[12:00] <thompa> fluxt: im going to try a live distro first, see what that reports, i dont have windows
[12:01] <fluxt> bjornkri: someone should write an AI adminitrator that quickly gains enough I to take over the world and enslave humanity as virtual machines
[12:01] <NickGarvey> ralph_: what were the files?
[12:01] <Buckuntu> so has anyone tried to build gnome 2.14 from scratch yet?
[12:01] <sEbaKiLLeR> http://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt
[12:01] <NickGarvey> and are you sure you are mounting the right partition? with windows on my desktop, hda1 is a 128 MB partition of recovery files, hda2 is the OS
[12:01] <sEbaKiLLeR> can anyone say what language is it please?????http://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt
[12:02] <sEbaKiLLeR> http://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt
[12:02] <chuckyp> Buckuntu, i'm using dapper for 2.14  great speed increase
[12:02] <dragon> i`ve small problem with installation ubuntu. Is it possible to install two operation system on the notebook?
[12:03] <chuckyp> bjornkri, what do you mean an administrative program?
[12:03] <IdleOne> !tell dragon ABOUT DUALBOOT
[12:03] <chuckyp> dragon, yes
[12:03] <Zarephath> anyone tried or use win4lin? I have installed WinXP...it has been a the Windows  splash screen...how long should it take to boot up?
[12:03] <IdleOne> sorry about the caps
[12:03] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: why do you want to know?
[12:03] <ralph_> NickGarvey: drwxr-xr-x  1 root root      7 2005-10-23 23:03 .
[12:03] <ralph_> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 2006-03-11 06:39 ..
[12:03] <ralph_> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 163840 2005-10-23 23:03 Desktop DB
[12:03] <ralph_> -rw-r--r--  1 root root      0 2005-10-23 23:03 Desktop DF
[12:03] <ralph_> -rw-r--r--  1 root root      0 2005-10-23 23:03 Finder
[12:03] <ralph_> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   1781 2005-10-23 23:03 ReadMe
[12:03] <ralph_> -rw-r--r--  1 root root      0 2005-10-23 23:03 System
[12:03] <_jason> ralph_: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:04] <R3linquish3r> Can someone tell me how to get Quake 3 running with Teamspeak? I've tried the "echo" commands as lsited in every google search I've made but it jsut doesn't work.....
[12:04] <chuckyp> !tell ralph_ about paste
[12:04] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: i should try that myself
[12:04] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: you cant use it with TS either?
[12:05] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: about 2 years ago i tried and failed
[12:05] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: ive been working my a$$ off trying to get it running
[12:05] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: just getting sound for quake is hard enough ;)
[12:05] <NickGarvey> ralph_: sure they are all files and not directories?
[12:05] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: well all the google and forums i looked on said to use the echo commands but the dotn work for me
[12:05] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: and quake wont use adsp neither will TS
[12:06] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: my sound owrked when i got it installed no probs. its just damn TS
[12:06] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: yeah ts should really update for ALSA
[12:06] <ralph_> NickGarvey: Well, I cannot do a CD and as you see from the ls they are shown as files...
[12:06] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason: because i want to compile it
[12:06] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: i'll just go download TS and give it a try
[12:06] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: supposedly it will for RC3 but that was supposed to be out last year :/
[12:07] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: for educational purposes?
[12:07] <sEbaKiLLeR> yes
[12:07] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: teamspeak inspires me to write my own open source voice chat thingy
[12:07] <sEbaKiLLeR> im learning some languages
[12:07] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: it's c
[12:07] <sEbaKiLLeR> sure?
[12:07] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: lol well im nto that skilled :P im oging about 1 nd half months on here
[12:07] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: what else could it be?
[12:08] <sEbaKiLLeR> because i cant compile with gcc
[12:08] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: man i suck at typing :P
[12:08] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: well make sure you have the headers
[12:08] <IdleOne> sEbaKiLLeR>  what error you getting?
[12:08] <linuxcrazy> can someone give me a repository url for libdvdcss?
[12:08] <sEbaKiLLeR> thanks
[12:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell linuxcrazy about dvd
[12:08] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: not many people program, that's normal ;) i'm nothing close to normal.. :p
[12:08] <IdleOne> !dvd
[12:08] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:08] <sEbaKiLLeR> wait a moment
[12:08] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: lol
[12:08] <linuxcrazy> no no no!
[12:08] <meheren> im back...
[12:09] <_jason> linuxcrazy: yes yes yes! what's the problem :)
[12:09] <lesshaste> !drm
[12:09] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lesshaste
[12:09] <lesshaste> :)
[12:09] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: if damn Americas Army would release 3.6 I wouldnt need to boot windows anymore :/
[12:09] <linuxcrazy> is it a repository?
[12:09] <meheren> the 686 kernel boots quickly on my dells
[12:09] <meheren> i like it
[12:09] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: *2.6 my bad
[12:09] <meheren> alot quicker then the 386 kernel...
[12:09] <_jason> linuxcrazy: yes as you will see if you click the link
[12:09] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: their release policy stinks
[12:09] <Stormx2> Uh oh... Slashdot is endorsing Automatrix
[12:09] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: yeah i no but its an awesome game
[12:09] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason: file format not recognized
[12:10] <linuxcrazy> ok so I just add the repository in the synaptic pkg manager?
[12:10] <dragon> when i insert cd with ubuntu only win is loading. Mayby anyone can tell me how change BIOS settings? i have ASUS A3H
[12:10] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: i havn't played it in years :)
[12:10] <meheren> how can i install xfce apt-get install xubuntu-desktop isn't working for some reason...
[12:10] <R3linquish3r> fluxt: have you lso had problems copy/pasting links out of TS? i cant do it at all
[12:10] <slaxor> #kernelnewbies
[12:10] <IdleOne> Stormx2>  slashdot can endorce what they like but I doubt you will get any support for it in here :)
[12:10] <fluxt> R3linquish3r: join #ubuntu-offtopic and we can continue in there
[12:10] <CaptainMorgan> Im still not seeing the changes after applying the ms*whatever font..
[12:10] <CaptainMorgan> and a bunch of others...
[12:11] <linuxcrazy> I f it is a repository then why does it not work whenI add it in the synaptic pkg manager?
[12:11] <bjornkri> Does everyone else have some of the screensavers greyed out in Gnome? I haven't found any way to install those (easily anyway)..
[12:11] <linuxcrazy> how do I add the repository?
[12:11] <IdleOne> linuxcrazy> click on the link and it will tell you how to ad the repo
[12:12] <Stormx2> !tell linuxcrazy about easysource
[12:12] <bjornkri> It's like just a handful that brings up a 'not installed' message, and it's annoying me to no end :P
[12:12] <zezu> what irc clients does everyone use ?
[12:12] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: why don't you learn c with a helloworld.c or something.  Notice helloworld.c not helloworld.txt
[12:12] <jadaz87> Xchat, gaim
[12:12] <zezu> i find xchat to be lacking
[12:12] <kbrooks> zezu, ubuntu has xchat.
[12:12] <IdleOne> zezu>  there are more then one?
[12:12] <NeverDream> xchat ftw
[12:12] <bjornkri> zezu: xchat, I'm boring like that
[12:12] <zezu> there are quite a few
[12:12] <HedgeMage> zezu: irssi here :)
[12:13] <linuxcrazy> I don't see anything on how to add it.
[12:13] <NeverDream> telnet :p
[12:13] <h36sa> where do I put modules I want auto-loaded at boot?
[12:13] <WhyvasLT> how do you run .pl files?
[12:13] <IdleOne> zezu>  lmao I know ...xchat here and mirc with wine
[12:13] <zezu> HedgeMage, i've heard a bit about irssi but its quite different than the average bear is it not ?
[12:13] <bjornkri> zezu I know some use irssi
[12:13] <stpere> h36sa, /etc/modules
[12:13] <nickrud> h36sa: /etc/modules, one module name per line
[12:13] <bjornkri> Oh there was one :P
[12:13] <yggdrasil> is there a way in gnome that i can make my desktop background change every couple of minutes ?
[12:13] <linuxcrazy> is this the repository? http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/
[12:13] <zezu> yggdrasil, nice nick
[12:14] <bjornkri> yggdrasil: yep! I just found out how myself. Let me dig it up for you
[12:14] <yggdrasil> thank you
[12:14] <bimberi> WhyvasLT: perl file.pl ??
[12:14] <yggdrasil> thank bjonmrkrik
[12:14] <stpere> yggdrasil, is your previous problem solved?
[12:14] <linuxcrazy> is this the repos?http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/
[12:14] <yggdrasil> tpere um
[12:14] <zielony> Where can I find some howto of using ncftp ?
[12:14] <bjornkri> And I'd like to see that nick with two ells at the end, but what do I know :P
[12:14] <yggdrasil> i dont know let me check
[12:14] <jadaz87> does anyone know what version Ubuntu 5.10 is debian wise? is it debian 2.1 or debian 3+
[12:14] <i3dmaster> something just drove me nuts.. I can logon to my remote box via windows ssh client but not from my ubuntu terminal.. anyone knows what might be the problem?
[12:14] <yggdrasil> stpere well it doesnt do splash screen
[12:14] <bimberi> WhyvasLT: the file command - "file <file>" will tell you what type a file is
[12:14] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason: thanks a lot ive put something in the text that was bad
[12:14] <stpere> yggdrasil, but it still crashes?
[12:15] <yggdrasil> stpere yea it freaks out strangley too
[12:15] <HedgeMage> zezu: yep.  I honestly didn't think getting used to irssi was worth the hassle at first... then I became staff here and had to manage about 30 chans, /msgs, etc at once!
[12:15] <yggdrasil> stpere i go into ctrl alt f1 and then back to f and it keeps the console text up and slwowly changes a wierd white to purlple fade...
[12:15] <yggdrasil> wierd
[12:16] <HedgeMage> zezu: now that I'm used to it, I hate using anything else!
[12:16] <yggdrasil> and yes it basicly is crashed
[12:16] <NickGarvey> I want to set it so a computer is in text mode, but it will allow others to connect to it and forward X11 applications, how would I do this?
[12:16] <zezu> HedgeMage, does it use CLI ?
[12:16] <zezu> or does it have a GUI ?
[12:16] <S|eepy> hey there! wonder if anyone can help pls...I just tried to make the switch from suse 10 to ubuntu - however although the system appeared to install fully - when it asked me to remove the cd media and then reboot to install more packages - i just see a GNU GRUB screen
[12:16] <S|eepy> not sure where to go from here :(
[12:16] <HedgeMage> zezu: yep
[12:16] <lesshaste> NickGarvey: that's pretty much the default
[12:16] <lesshaste> NickGarvey: is it not working?
[12:17] <NickGarvey> lesshaste: I want it to start in text mode
[12:17] <HedgeMage> zezu: CLI
[12:17] <lesshaste> NickGarvey: then just get it to start at runlevel 3
[12:17] <zezu> eh i don't know that CLI is a great option for me ;|  might as well use BitchX ;)
[12:17] <NickGarvey> lesshaste: will starting in runtime 3 block other computers from connecting to the x-server?
[12:17] <lesshaste> NickGarvey: no
[12:17] <bjornkri> yggdrasil: ah, I can't find the site again I'm afraid, but I have the code here.. what's the url to Pastebin again?
[12:17] <jadaz87> does anyone know what version of debian ubuntu 5.10 is based off of?
[12:18] <NickGarvey> oh good thank y,ou
[12:18] <bimberi> jadaz87: sid (unstable)
[12:18] <zielony> Someone know hot to use ncftp ?
[12:18] <yggdrasil> bjornkri.pastebine.com
[12:18] <yggdrasil> ;)
[12:18] <jadaz87> bimberi what version number is tha? 2.1 or 3+
[12:19] <S|eepy> anyone able to help pls? will buy u a beer :p
[12:19] <bjornkri> oh, as simple as that hehe
[12:19] <meheren> when switching from the 386 kernel to the 686 kernel will there be applications that might go bad becasue of non-support on 686 kerrnels?
[12:19] <linuxcrazy> please, can someone tell me how to add a repo?
[12:19] <meheren> linuxcrazy, open synaptic
[12:19] <HymnToLife> !repos
[12:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:19] <meheren> click resporsities
[12:19] <yggdrasil> uh not pastebine. pastebin
[12:19] <meheren> click add
[12:19] <william> how do i change file associations?
[12:19] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: help.ubuntu.com
[12:19] <bimberi> jadaz87: not sure if sid has a version number, but it's definitely 3+
[12:19] <meheren> click custom
[12:19] <kbrooks> jadaz87, sid has no version number.
[12:20] <yggdrasil> bjornkri msg me
[12:20] <bimberi> ubotu tell william about defaultapp
[12:20] <meheren> then type in the name of resporsity...
[12:20] <jadaz87> :-\
[12:20] <NickGarvey> wait.. "id:3:initdefault:" means it starts in runtime 3 already right?
[12:20] <bimberi> !repos
[12:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:20] <linuxcrazy> Ok I know how to add a repo but i can't get the one you gave me to work
[12:20] <kbrooks> jadaz87, sid is a permanently unstable version of debian linux
[12:20] <scott_> is gnome 2.14 in dapper drake yet?
[12:21] <kbrooks> scott_, #ubuntu+1. ask them. not us.
[12:21] <jadaz87> kbrooks because when i want to download aim for linux it has two options for debian 2.1 or 3+
[12:21] <william> i have done that, but still when i open it it opens with totem instead of mplayer
[12:21] <william> i dont see a setting for like "make default" or anything
[12:21] <pvd2006> anyone here use nexxus security scanner?
[12:21] <william> wiat nvm.
[12:21] <_zezu> hmm
[12:21] <william> thanks bimb
[12:21] <_zezu> konversation looks nice
[12:22] <bimberi> william: np :)
[12:24] <bjornkri> yggdrasil: and I found it, the wallpaper changer is here http://divmod.org/users/washort/ranwp.py :)
[12:25] <meheren> cya guys i gtg
[12:25] <_Jsm> Hi all
[12:25] <sls> hi
[12:25] <Samineru> Is there a keyboard shortcut for, or a way to create a keyboard shortcut, for show desktop?
[12:25] <kapace> hello
[12:25] <_Jsm> yes
[12:26] <sls> is there a good way to share printers in ubuntu....?
[12:26] <kapace> im running live cd
[12:26] <tarheel> ubuntu linux is apparently alot more popular than i thought wow
[12:26] <kapace> how do i log in as root
[12:26] <sls> this cups stuff is confusing...
[12:26] <kapace> because i want to install a rpm
[12:26] <Samineru> _Jsm what is it?
[12:26] <jadaz87> does anyone know if ubuntu comes with an IRC server?
[12:26] <sEbaKiLLeR> ayone now a channel for hack?
[12:26] <bjornkri> Samineru: control alt d
[12:26] <sls> kapace: sudo -s
[12:26] <Samineru> thank you
[12:26] <kapace> thxs
[12:26] <stpere> kapace, use sudo
[12:26] <arrinmurr> tarheel: well, it has been the top distro on distrowatch for some time now ;)
[12:27] <kapace> yes
[12:27] <bimberi> kapace: 'sudo -i' in a terminal will get you a root shell
[12:27] <bjornkri> Samineru: you can change it by going to System / Preferences / Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:27] <subsonic_shadow> can anyone help me out with a local printer prob?
[12:27] <tarheel> i been in redhat so long i havent really used any of the new ones
[12:27] <Zarephath> Hey I am reading the XGL howto on wiki..and it says apt-get gnome-compiz but it returns a error saying it can't find that package
[12:27] <tarheel> linux has really advanced alot
[12:27] <_jason> if I boot with a livecd, how can I check the integrity of a hard drive?  I am getting BSOD on windows boot
[12:28] <yggdrasil> bjornkri thanks
[12:28] <bjornkri> np
[12:28] <_Jsm> Samineru try ctrl alt d
[12:28] <jadaz87> anyone know of a IRC server for ubuntu?
[12:29] <IdleOne> jadaz87>  this is the server
[12:29] <bjornkri> anyone know the shortcut for close tab in Epiphany?
[12:29] <brenner> tarheel: have you tried ubuntu?
[12:29] <Zarephath> I think he means to install and run on his Ubuntu box
[12:29] <jadaz87> no i mean is there a IRC server bundled with ubuntu
[12:29] <IdleOne> jadaz87>  unrealircd works great on my ubuntu
[12:29] <yakk> bjornkri, ctrl-w?
[12:30] <jadaz87> idleone oh ok how do i get that?
[12:30] <kapace> what version is latest ubuntu at?
[12:30] <bjornkri> That did it yakk, thanks :)
[12:30] <kbrooks> jadaz87, no. ubuntu is for the desktop.
[12:30] <sls> jadams, you have to type sudo apt-get install "server that you like"
[12:30] <IdleOne> jadaz87>  gogle unrealircd
[12:30] <kbrooks> kapace, 5.10 .
[12:30] <IdleOne> google*
[12:30] <kapace> k
[12:30] <_Jsm> :@ if i press the firefox button it says its loading then desapirs im forced to use moz lol
[12:30] <jadaz87> kkbrooks no i mean install irc onto ubuntu
[12:31] <IdleOne> jadaz87>  you will have to compile it then configure it
[12:31] <_Jsm> ill look in synaptic;)
[12:31] <LRF> I can't get totem to load.  says another ap is using the video????  Can't find anything helpful in wiki.  Suggestions????  (I am new to ubuntu and linux).  Thanks.
[12:31] <Zarephath> apt-get doesn't find this..and yes I have all the correct repositories in sources.list? compiz-gnome
[12:31] <kbrooks> IdleOne, i doubt it:
[12:32] <IdleOne> kbrooks>  you doubt what?
[12:32] <kbrooks> !find unrealircd
[12:32] <jadaz87> idleone ok thanks
[12:32] <IdleOne> kbrooks>  no it isnt in the repos
[12:32] <EvilDin> hay can be rmp files installed on ubuntu?
[12:32] <kbrooks> EvilDin, No.
[12:32] <EvilDin> :(
[12:32] <brenner> Zarephath: you running dapper?
[12:32] <jeff_> How do I do ps -aux and have it sort by memory usage?
[12:32] <IdleOne> EvilDin>  what you want to install?
[12:33] <EvilDin> one good mailserver with webmail support
[12:33] <Gunblade> How do I get Ubuntu to suppport the Arhive Format .rar and then where is that guide that shows how to get the codecs or whatever for everything like mp3, mpg etc.
[12:33] <EvilDin> for many users
[12:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'unrealircd' returned no results.
[12:33] <linuxcrazy> I have tried and tried to make this http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ add into synaptic and cannot do it. can someone pleeeeeeze help me?
[12:33] <rukuartic> !tell Gunblade about restricted
[12:33] <Falstius> hi, I have a GeForce 6800 GT and I want to read out the temperature sensors.  nvclock segfaults.  Any other suggestions?
[12:33] <jeff_> How do I do ps -aux and have it sort by memory usage?
[12:34] <kbrooks> !tell gunblade about unrar
[12:34] <kbrooks> !rar
[12:34] <ubotu> well, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[12:34] <LRF> Guess no one can help right now.  Thanks anyway.  I have to go.
[12:34] <Gunblade> as always; Thanks ! ^_^
[12:34] <linuxcrazy> please can someone tell me how to add this http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ into synaptic?
[12:34] <kbrooks> linuxboy, too hard?
[12:35] <kbrooks> !tell linuxboy about repos
[12:35] <EvilDin> anyone any idea what mailserver should i install
[12:35] <jeff_> How do I do ps -aux and have it sort by memory usage?
[12:36] <linuxcrazy> I checked the show disabled software box, I addded the repo, I did everything. can someone please help me?
[12:36] <_Jsm> can people help me with my firefox problem?
[12:36] <kbrooks> er
[12:36] <linuxcrazy> what's the prob?
[12:36] <_Jsm> :@ if i press the firefox button it says its loading then desapirs im forced to use moz lol
[12:36] <kbrooks> !tell linuxcrazy about repos
[12:36] <brenner> _Jsm: run it in terminal and look for errors
[12:36] <_Jsm> brenner , how ?
[12:36] <MalMen> its easy install ati on ubuntu?
[12:36] <linuxcrazy> someone......help me
[12:37] <brenner> _Jsm: apps>accessories>terminal
[12:37] <durga> how do i convert wmv9 files to mpeg for vcd burn ?
[12:37] <linuxcrazy> pleeeeaaaase
[12:37] <_Jsm> i know that , i mean the command line to open it
[12:37] <linuxcrazy> anyone?
[12:37] <brenner> MalMen: realtively
[12:37] <MalMen> on suse get me that
[12:37] <MalMen> /usr/src/kernel-modules/fglrx /usr/src/linux
[12:37] <MalMen> make: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15.8-obj/i386/default'
[12:37] <MalMen> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:37] <MalMen> make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15.8-obj/i386/default'
[12:37] <MalMen> ******************************
[12:37] <MalMen> Build of kernel module failed!
[12:38] <MalMen> ******************************
[12:38] <MalMen> im go now try ubuntu :X
[12:38] <eccf> _Jsm, firefox
[12:38] <brenner> linuxboy: whining is just annoying
[12:38] <SGershon> Hi. I just saw a post at the forums about the 'su' pasword on the log file. Shocking.
[12:38] <brenner> linuxcrazy: that was meant for you.  if you're after seveas' packages.  use this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:38] <IdleOne> linuxcrazy>  read the page it gives you the deb http: to add to your sources.list
[12:38] <ralph_> NickGarvey: Sorry, had to restart just now - did you say anything more?
[12:38] <brenner> MalMen: use a pastebin next time
[12:38] <MalMen> k
[12:38] <MalMen> soz
[12:39] <bjornkri> "Ex-Chat".. huhuhu...
[12:39] <brenner> MalMen: and we don't care abut suse problems :P
[12:39] <ikaros> is the sun java repository usable with dapper too?
[12:39] <IdleOne> SGershon>  that was fixed with 4 hours and it was days ago :)
[12:40] <IdleOne> SGershon>  sudo apt-get upgrade will install the fixes
[12:40] <brenner> do the upgrades remove the offending logs?
[12:40] <SGershon> IdleOne, Oh, thanks. I guess my system did update itself by himself?
[12:40] <IdleOne> brenner>  I think it does not sure didnt look to see
[12:40] <titanium> i'm trying to get Synergy to work in Ubuntu. i'm running Ubuntu on my headless machine, which i connect to from my windows machine through ssh. when i try to start synergyc on ubuntu, i get "unable to open screen" since i'm SSHing in. how do i get around this?
[12:41] <IdleOne> SGershon>  to make sure in terminal type sudo apt-get upgrade :)
[12:42] <borrega> HOLA
[12:42] <IdleOne> !es
[12:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:42] <NeverDream> hola
[12:42] <ryoohki> what package has the "strings" command?
[12:42] <jadaz87> idleone how do i uninstall unrealircd if i do not want it anymore?
[12:43] <william> i have a question, i installed mplayer and its plugins/codecs but for some reason i cant watch video fullscreen or even expand it, it can only play at its original resolution. how can i fix this?
[12:43] <Oceansblue> hi
[12:43] <_Jsm> i found something funny ;) sudo -h firefox i can see my problem ;)
[12:43] <IdleOne> jadaz87>  all you did was sownload it?
[12:43] <_Jsm> hi
[12:43] <MalMen> ubuntu wotks fine on laptops?
[12:43] <ubuntu_> hi gay
[12:43] <IdleOne> download*
[12:43] <ubuntu_> you m....f..............
[12:43] <SGershon> MalMen, mostly yes.
[12:43] <IdleOne> !ops
[12:43] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[12:43] <brenner> !ops
[12:43] <fluxt> i need some help, i've lost all sound, it was working and now is not. alsa starts fine :/
[12:43] <Oceansblue> How do I restart network interfaces?
[12:43] <nalioth> IdleOne: yes?
[12:44] <jadaz87> idleone i mean if i installed (compiled it) and found out i did not want it on there anymore
[12:44] <bjornkri> MalMen Works fine on mine :)
[12:44] <apokryphos> heh
[12:44] <Seveas> woah, the entire police wakes up 
[12:44] <ompaul> too late
[12:44] <elkbuntu> heh, how many more are you?
[12:44] <MalMen> im want install xgl on ubuntu ^^
[12:44] <IdleOne> jadaz87>  if you didnt compile it rm /path/to/unreal should do it :/
[12:44] <occ|quad> Oceansblue: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:44] <jadaz87> idleone i mean after i compile it
[12:44] <elkbuntu> ubotu, tell MalMen about xgl
[12:44] <ompaul> MalMen, go to #ubuntu+1 as it does not work on 5.10 you will get help there
[12:44] <Oceansblue> thank you
[12:45] <jadaz87> idleone how do i get rid of it
[12:45] <mikebot> does anyone know the incoming and outgoing servers for hotmail?
[12:45] <IdleOne> jadaz87>  same thing should work but Im not certain
[12:45] <mikebot> actually, i only need to incoming server for hotmail
[12:45] <apokryphos> p.s. it's often a good idea to stay OP sometimes if you're available so everyone isn't alerted
[12:45] <bjornkri> Seveas, how do you do that  guy? I take it there's a way other than copy paste? :P
[12:45] <_Jsm> I fixed firefox i loaded with -profilemanger and re made it
[12:46] <IdleOne> bjornkri>  I think he prolly does /kb nickname and it sets the ban mask
[12:46] <mikebot> anyone know the incoming server for hotmail?
[12:46] <dag_> ubuntu
[12:46] <bjornkri> IdleOne: No no.. no... Not the kicking and banning, that smiley face :P
[12:46] <IdleOne> bjornkri>  lmao
[12:47] <IdleOne> bjornkri>  cvopy it and make an auto change in your xchat settings :P
[12:47] <dag_> #quit
[12:47] <bjornkri> thanks  ;)
[12:47] <Samineru> 
[12:47] <yggdrasil> anyway to get rid of the nasty brown beetween the gdm login and the desktop loading ?
[12:47] <Samineru> that's the apanese charecter tsu
[12:47] <IdleOne> Samineru>  yup
[12:47] <bjornkri> nami!
[12:47] <Fujitsu> Haah
[12:47] <bjornkri> *cough*
[12:48] <IdleOne> !usplash
[12:48] <ubotu> I heard usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:48] <brenner> it isn't usplash
[12:48] <brenner> sys>admin>login screen setup
[12:48] <IdleOne> brenner>  oh then what is it ?
[12:48] <IdleOne> heh ok
[12:48] <brenner> gtk+ greeter tab >bg color
[12:49] <_Jsm>  one thing does this show in some werid color?
[12:49] <Samineru> somehow the letter between i and k got set as my help shortcut for xchat and I don't know how to change it back, It's not under settings>advanced>keyboard shortcuts
[12:49] <brenner> i
[12:49] <NickGarvey> ralph_: any luck?
[12:49] <titanium> so anyone have experiences with Synergy and ubuntu?
[12:49] <kbrooks> so, everyone.
[12:49] <brenner> whoops.  i'm not a fan of brown either
[12:49] <isodude> Hey, I've been searching some but unable to find:
[12:49] <isodude> A way to fool dpkg that the database is in sync ( or w/e now it's complaining about )
[12:49] <isodude> or a way to solve the problem head on.
[12:49] <isodude> My problem is that debconf says dpkg was interrupted. Running dpkg-reconfigure -a doesn't solve anything. What's there to do more?
[12:50] <kbrooks> everyone:
[12:50] <mumbles> im gettinga server offline message
[12:50] <brenner> titanium: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto
[12:50] <kbrooks> i want to develop something like automatix, but i neeed as much help as i can get.
[12:50] <titanium> brenner: thanks :)
[12:51] <IdleOne> kbrooks>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:51] <ralph_> NickGarvey:  Not really. I can mount, but I still get only the files, not the directory structure I see under OS X.
[12:51] <NickGarvey> ralph_: sure all those things are files? tried cding into them?
[12:51] <isodude> And I solved a problem around dapper flight 5 =)
[12:51] <apokryphos> kbrooks: you'd be a lot better working on the already-existing alternatives :)
[12:51] <apokryphos> kbrooks: see/join #easyubuntu
[12:51] <brenner> titanium: i should have checked ubotu's triggers earlier.  i was about to tel you to read the man page :P
[12:51] <IdleOne> kbrooks>  ubuntu already has synaptic though
[12:51] <isodude> but got trouble with apt-get instead
[12:51] <isodude> >,<
[12:51] <NickGarvey> also, when I installed damn small linux, there was a huge file called "knoppix" that was pretty much everything, and thus I was unable to access it with anyhing else
[12:51] <NickGarvey> you might be in the  same situation
[12:54] <ralph_> NickGarvey: Tried cding. Didn't work.("ls reading file: no directory"). The readme is the only readable file and says: Your harddisk is formatted with Mac OS Extended format...
[12:54] <polpak> OMG
[12:55] <Gunblade> I am trying to extract .rar files, but the link to "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression" tells me to install unrar-nonfree, but I can only find unrar-free in synaptic
[12:55] <polpak> automatix got slashdotted?
[12:55] <glm2k> yep
[12:55] <glm2k> Gunblade: unrar has always been free
[12:55] <_jason> Gunblade: you need multiverse
[12:55] <polpak> !info unrar
[12:56] <Gunblade> I followed the adding reposotories, and I got multiverse
[12:56] <Auci> is there a way to repair ubuntu Brezy BAd?
[12:56] <La_PaRCa> Hey, how can I change the extension of all the files in a directory?
[12:56] <_jason> Gunblade: a common problem is that multiverse is only enabled for backports, put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[12:57] <_jason> La_PaRCa: do you want regular expression kungfu or bash kungfu?
[12:57] <polpak> Gunblade, you need to either sudo apt-get install unrar-free OR sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[12:57] <La_PaRCa> bash foo
[12:57] <xcel> hey! where is the url to update the "apt-get-list" ?
[12:57] <_jason> La_PaRCa: ok that requires me to test -.-
[12:57] <La_PaRCa> mjeje
[12:58] <Auci> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/login_1%3a4.0.3-37ubuntu8_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline. im gewtting this error when all the updates finish downloading and the install process starts.
[12:58] <xcel> hey! where is the url to update the "apt-get-list" ?
[12:58] <NickGarvey> ralph_: perhaps hfsplus is what on eed
[12:58] <pvd2006> My friend can't run the fakeroot command on Ubuntu
[12:58] <pvd2006> any reason why that would be the case?
[12:58] <La_PaRCa> Ok.  I have some WMV files that I want to reproduce but its bitching because they dont have the right extension for an ASF Video File. How can I tell it wmv is indeed a valid extension for asf files?
[12:58] <ZeZu> anyone have suggestions on getting my 6ch audio to work ?
[12:58] <pvd2006> it says its not a command
[12:58] <La_PaRCa> pvd2006, because he has to install it.
[12:59] <ZeZu> alsamixer has surround on
[12:59] <ZeZu> set to independant like it is
[12:59] <xcel> hello
[12:59] <pvd2006> La_Parca oh, how can you do that
[12:59] <pvd2006> synaptic?
[12:59] <IdleOne> !tell pvd2006 about fakeroot
[12:59] <polpak> cd /path/do/files && for FILE in `ls | awk -F. '{print $1}'`; do mv $FILE.wmv $FILE.asf; done;
[12:59] <ZeZu> the app i'm using to test it is in 6ch mode
[12:59] <IdleOne> !tell pvd2006 about sudo
[12:59] <polpak> La_PaRCa, it's a little bash + awk foo
[12:59] <La_PaRCa> polpak, I can see that.
[01:00] <ralph_> NickGarvey: But that is not in my supported mount options - or is that an extra package to install?
[01:00] <xcel> hey! where is the url to update the "apt-get-list" ?
[01:00] <La_PaRCa> So, any idea how I can tell nautilus that .wmv is a valid extension for asf mime type?
[01:00] <La_PaRCa> pvd2006, just do: sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[01:00] <IdleOne> !tell xcel about easysource
[01:00] <polpak> La_PaRCa, yeah.. I seem to remember seeing that bug & fix before
[01:00] <xcel> thx
[01:01] <La_PaRCa> polpak, cant find it in the bugs DB
[01:01] <javiolo> hi
[01:01] <xcel> IdleOne, it wasn'st really that one
[01:01] <Gunblade> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10363
[01:01] <brenner> ubotu: tell xcel about repos
[01:01] <javiolo> do anyone knows what is nubuntu ?
[01:01] <IdleOne> !tell xcel about repos
[01:01] <La_PaRCa> polpak, um, I just found out there is a _rename_ command.
[01:01] <_jason> La_PaRCa: that's the regular expression kunfu way :)
[01:01] <Gunblade> installing the unrar-free doesn't work, and the terminal says it can't find unrar-nonfree
[01:02] <Buckuntu> wow, this gdebi is a great idea
[01:02] <Buckuntu> command line installing is one of my big beefs with linux
[01:02] <xcel> IdleOne, brenner thanks!! really apruciate it
[01:02] <La_PaRCa> _jason, ah, ok.
[01:02] <_jason> Gunblade: indeed you only have multiverse for backports, want to fix it with synaptic or manually editing the file?
[01:02] <javiolo> !nubuntu
[01:02] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, javiolo
[01:02] <IdleOne> Gunblade> you need to enable universe and multiverse ubotu  will send you a link
[01:02] <IdleOne> !tell Gunblade about repos
[01:02] <Xenguy> Buckuntu: yer right, the command-line certainly is beefy :p
[01:02] <Gunblade> _jason: D: arrrrrrrgghhhh !
[01:03] <Buckuntu> Xenguy, it's not that I can't use the command line, but I don't think it's necessary in a GUI environment for basic tasks
[01:03] <IdleOne> Xenguy>  cli is the stuff :)
[01:03] <Buckuntu> any way people come up with a way to do things in GUI rather than command line is a step further for the useability of linux IMO
[01:03] <Xenguy> Buckuntu: would you prefer half a brain or a full one?  Use both :-)
[01:03] <batman> hi
[01:03] <Gunblade> _jason I followed that site ...so maybe I have to do it manually
[01:04] <misteri> how do I install LiLo and how can I find all these packages myself (for future references)
[01:04] <Buckuntu> Xenguy, I like the full brain, and I use both, but, I'm talking about for average use =P
[01:04] <paganini> I have done lots of GNOME customizing; so, I am wondering if its possible to get windows in GNOME to snap to the edge of the screen the way they do in KDE
[01:04] <geert_> hoi
[01:04] <_jason> Gunblade: on every line that you see ``universe'' without ``multiverse'', change ``universe'' to ``universe multiverse''
[01:04] <ralph_> NickGarvey: Tried it with hfsplus, and it seems to work. But changing hfs to hfsplus in the /etc/fstab didn't. I guess I have to fiddle around a bit more.
[01:04] <Buckuntu> paganini, that's what the new version takes care of
[01:04] <Xenguy> Buckuntu: OK, though "average" is a moving target, an evolving thing :-)
[01:04] <paganini> (That is, I have just done lots of GNOME customizing TODAY. That wasn't supposed to be an indication of my authority. ;)
[01:04] <Buckuntu> at least, that's my understanding of it from reading the changelog and stuff
[01:05] <ralph_> NickGarvey: And sorry, forgot that: Thanks a lot. It seems that my manpage for mount is not quite uptodate...
[01:05] <paganini> So, would the new version be the one that will come out with Dapper?
[01:05] <Buckuntu> paganini, a new gnome was released very recently that handles that
[01:05] <Gunblade> _jason the sources.list?
[01:05] <Xenguy> Buckuntu: which is to say people can educate themselves and others about cli benefits, and enjoy the benefits
[01:05] <Buckuntu> yep, dapper will have it almost certainly
[01:05] <_jason> Gunblade: yep just issue the command: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:05] <geert_> hi there, im having problems with my audigy soundcard
[01:05] <ziky82> #ozieri
[01:05] <Buckuntu> Xenguy, I agree, I like ubuntu a lot, but certain things will prevent a mom-and-pop type from using it in some cases
[01:06] <Buckuntu> I know my dad would never be able to touch linux, for example
[01:06] <Buckuntu> he knows nothing of the command line even if he is a moderate computer user
[01:06] <_jason> La_PaRCa: for i in *; do mv $i ${i%.*}.newextenstion; done, :)
[01:06] <Xenguy> Buckuntu: I hear ya - we don't want to rely to much soley on cli as it raises the bar of entry unacceptably high
[01:06] <Xenguy> er, too
[01:07] <IdleOne> Buckuntu>  hence the need for you to have your own machine to run ubuntu on...expplain to them that it is a way for you to learn something new :)
[01:07] <misteri> help me install LiLo, anyone?
[01:07] <ZeZu> anyone? trying to get surround to work and it pretty much refuses
[01:07] <geert_> help....
[01:07] <gazanfer> hello. when i run aptitude, i can see that i have 72 broken file dependencies. but when i try to install them, it says they're already installed
[01:07] <Gunblade> _jason that command doesn't seem to work
[01:07] <Buckuntu> IdleOne, I have a whole dedicated Ubuntu machine, I still run windows on my other computer tho
[01:07] <paganini> Misteri, is there a particular reason you want to use lilo instead of grub?
[01:08] <misteri> no paganini
[01:08] <IdleOne> Buckuntu>  then the rents should be happy hehe
[01:08] <brenner> ZeZu: try searching the forum for your card
[01:08] <Xenguy> gazanfer: yuck
[01:08] <paganini> Cos, I think grub is pretty cool. And it is easy to install.
[01:08] <Gunblade> _jason I just ">" the file doesn't open or anything...
[01:08] <Gunblade> just get*
[01:08] <IdleOne> gazanfer>  sudo apt-get -f install
[01:08] <misteri> so, will grub notice I have Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
[01:08] <Buckuntu> I own two computers now, this is actually a pretty powerful little linux box I have here, used to be my main computer until I bought another one
[01:08] <Gunblade> opening the file through nautilus won't let me edit it either
[01:08] <paganini> misteri: probably
[01:09] <paganini> misteri: but if not, it is really easy to customize
[01:09] <isodude> Bah, nobody with some dpkg hax knowledge around? =)
[01:09] <misteri> thnx
[01:09] <ZeZu> damn konversation is opening urls in bluefish, odd for viewing heh
[01:10] <misteri> and my soundcard doesn't work. It's an old laptop I got from a friend and I don't know anything about the hardware inside
[01:10] <_jason> Gunblade: strange... can you pastebin exactly what happened?
[01:11] <Buckuntu> supposedly the new gnome fixes that login screen background color problem too
[01:11] <gazanfer> IdleOne, it doesnt work either. it says they are already the newest versions
[01:11] <Buckuntu> is there a way to configure that in the old version that anyone knows of?
[01:11] <IdleOne> gazanfer>  hmmm sounds bad...dont know what to tell you :/
[01:11] <Buckuntu> it makes it a little hard to run an all blue theme when the login screen's background color comes up orange
[01:11] <Gunblade> _jason in the terminal?
[01:11] <brenner> Buckuntu: the brown bg?  sys>admin>login screen setup
[01:12] <brenner> Buckuntu: then gtk+ greeter tab >bg color
[01:12] <misteri> how do I find my soundcard? - I know there is one lol
[01:12] <_jason> Gunblade: yeah, just copy and paste the command and output to pastebin
[01:12] <polpak> misteri, lspci
[01:12] <Terminus> misteri: lspci should give you info about your hardware.
[01:12] <gazanfer> hello. when i run aptitude, i can see that i have 72 broken file dependencies. but when i try to install them, it says they're already installed. -f doesn't work either. any ideas?
[01:12] <Buckuntu> hmm, I must've overlooked that, thanks guys
[01:13] <paganini> Misteri: System -> Administration -> Device Manager will give you a graphical front-end
[01:13] <Buckuntu> bbiab
[01:14] <NickGarvey> ralph_: no problem, I know NOTHING about macs, but I do know the power of google :-P
[01:14] <|mp|> anyone using/tried Intel graphics driver?
[01:14] <Gunblade> _jason: http://pastebin.com/606546
[01:14] <misteri> yipe!! which one those strings is my soundcard? :S Sorry for being a n00b
[01:14] <_jason> Gunblade: you forgot the ' at the end
[01:14] <IdleOne> gazanfer>  ask your question in here please as it may help others also...and sorry I dont know the answer to your question
[01:15] <brenner> misteri: lspci |grep Audio
[01:15] <Gunblade> _jason: >_<" lololol
[01:15] <gazanfer> when i run aptitude, i can see that i have 72 broken file dependencies. but when i try to install them, it says they're already installed. -f doesn't work either. any ideas?
[01:15] <brenner> |mp|: best to just ask anyway
[01:15] <nalioth> gazanfer: is this breezy?
[01:16] <gazanfer> nalioth, yes
[01:16] <misteri> brenner, it didn't find any "audio"
[01:16] <brenner> misteri: capital A
[01:16] <Buckuntu> how about the splash screen, do you have to edit that value in the configuration editor, because that seemed to just make the splash screen vanish altogether for me
[01:16] <NickGarvey> how do I kill the x windows server remotely?
[01:16] <nalioth> gazanfer: are you using any non official repos?
[01:16] <jadaz87> wow i just notived there are 661 people in here
[01:16] <gazanfer> nalioth, yes i do use multiverse and universe repos.
[01:16] <IdleOne> jadaz87>  slow day/night :)
[01:17] <misteri> brenner,  still nothin'
[01:17] <nalioth> gazanfer: have you installed any debian debs?
[01:17] <gazanfer> nalioth, no i havent
[01:17] <brenner> misteri: just pastebin the whole output :)
[01:17] <jadaz87> idle one :) right now i am bored so i decided to try knoppmyth for a media server
[01:17] <brenner> Buckuntu: i used gtweakui
[01:18] <mdmkolbe> How do I connect with IPSec in Ubuntu?
[01:18] <misteri> brenner, it doesn't give any output for that command
[01:18] <IdleOne> jadaz87>  sounds like a project :) I dont know what knoppmyth is though hehe
[01:18] <jadaz87> idleone http://www.mysettopbox.tv
[01:18] <Terminus> misteri: he means run lspci without piping to grep and pastebin it. :)
[01:18] <misteri> ...and I don't know how to pastebin =DDD
[01:18] <Terminus> !paste
[01:18] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[01:19] <jadaz87> idleone it is like media center except a linux distro
[01:19] <dOob> vie tu niekto po slovensky ??
[01:19] <Gunblade> _jason: thanks, it all works now
[01:19] <IdleOne> !sk
[01:19] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[01:19] <brenner> Terminus: heh. thanks.  you can take over now :P
[01:19] <_jason> Gunblade: great
[01:19] <misteri> d00d, wrong language
[01:19] <IdleOne> !ru
[01:19] <dOob> OK sorry
[01:19] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[01:20] <IdleOne> seems there isnt a slovac channel
[01:20] <Terminus> brenner: i was trying to look for a pattern match and you beat me to it earlier. tried to run lspci on another box and remembered it didn't have a soundcard. hehe
[01:20] <Auci> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/login_1%3a4.0.3-37ubuntu8_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline. im gewtting this error when all the updates finish downloading and the install process starts.
[01:20] <Auci> please I need help
[01:20] <Gunblade> Ok on to the next question. While browsing pictures off of my camera, I have to individually click them, is there an image viewer where I can use the right arrow button to go to the next image in the same foldeR?
[01:20] <mdmkolbe> Does ubuntu have an IPSec wizard/druid or do I need to do that manually from the command line?
[01:20] <ralph_> NickGarvey: So how did you google that one? Because I tried that as well...
[01:20] <paganini> Hmm
[01:20] <Terminus> brenner: i think i'm still asleep. =D
[01:20] <paganini> Totem is playing my movies grainy with gstreamer. I wonder if Xine would do better.
[01:21] <IdleOne> paganini>  can always try and see :)
[01:21] <Overand> (in commandline) how can I see the status (installed or not) of a package?
[01:21] <Terminus> paganini: xine has been better in my experience. :)
[01:21] <jadaz87> can you have totem gstreamer and totem xine installed at the same time?
[01:21] <glm2k> Gunblade: gqview can do that, you go to the next image by pressing the space bar.
[01:21] <gazanfer> nalioth, is there a way to make apt-get examine all installed packages and remake the database, etc?
[01:22] <nalioth> gazanfer: just apt-get update
[01:22] <nickrud> Auci: possibly your iso is slightly defective ; you can check it with  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:22] <V4Vendetta> is it safe to upgrade to gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[01:22] <Xenguy> Overand: dpkg -l packagename*
[01:22] <Terminus> Overand: dpkg-query -l
[01:22] <nickrud> Overand: dpkg -l <package> ; if it's not installed it may not show up
[01:23] <brenner> jadaz87: no
[01:23] <Xenguy> Overand: see also 'apt-file' -- very useful
[01:23] <jadaz87> brenner does totem xine support mpeg?
[01:23] <detox332> hi everyone, ive been using breezy for about 7 months now, and just recently had to reinstall the os, upon installing the gstreamer-plugins i get this error about /libvisual/transform i tried reinstalling libvisual and all the plugins but still no luck, does anyone have any advice?
[01:24] <Gunblade> glm2k: What is gqview? I have image viewer, space jar opens a new window thats it
[01:24] <Buckuntu> is it true that automatix is a security risk that opens up the root user or something?
[01:24] <V4Vendetta> Buckuntu, no
[01:24] <Buckuntu> oh, someone on /. was saying that FUD today
[01:24] <jadaz87> v 4 vendetta i want to see that movie
[01:24] <Buckuntu> wasn't sure if it was FUD or not
[01:24] <_jason> Buckuntu: it used to
[01:24] <Terminus> jadaz87: already seen it. twice. since 2 days ago. =D
[01:25] <ZeZu> anyone got an asus p4c800 deluxe ?  It uses the intel ich5 right?
[01:25] <jadaz87> does it not come out March 17th?
[01:25] <_jason> Buckuntu: here http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[01:25] <yohan> could someone please help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=832209#post832209
[01:25] <Terminus> jadaz87: it started screening here march 15. and we better move over to offtopic if we're gonna continue this discussion. =D
[01:25] <brenner> jadaz87: w/ w32codecs, yes.
[01:25] <jadaz87> oh ok
[01:25] <Xenguy> yohan: general summary?
[01:26] <jadaz87> already there terminus
[01:26] <jadaz87> :D
[01:26] <yohan> Xenguy: check the link..
[01:26] <detox332> anyone have advice on how to fix the /libvisual/transform error?
[01:26] <Xenguy> yohan: I'm lazy :-)
[01:26] <yohan> Xenguy: please :) i have my error there too :)
[01:26] <Gunblade> glm2k: Ah nm, I installed it neat, thx
[01:26] <Xenguy> yohan: what's the general idea?
[01:27] <gazanfer> how can i enable volume control buttons on my notebook?
[01:27] <zF> Question
[01:27] <muep> yohan: do you have glib dev libs installed?
[01:27] <yohan> problem when compiling gaim
[01:27] <jadaz87> brenner aalright
[01:27] <zF> How do I search for files?
[01:27] <yohan> muep: yeah i have the default ones
[01:27] <nickrud> zF: Places  search for files
[01:27] <Xenguy> yohan: I have no idea why you would compile it in the first place; just install the package
[01:27] <roberto> who spiking spanish?
[01:27] <Buckuntu> brb
[01:27] <yohan> Xenguy: there is no for gaim 2
[01:28] <Xenguy> yohan: oh, meh
[01:28] <IdleOne> !es
[01:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:28] <ZeZu> I can't find anything for my audio chipset oddly enough, anyone have any tips for getting surround to work ?
[01:28] <polpak> !es
[01:28] <detox332> gaim 2.0 beta seems to work fine on mine
[01:28] <muep> yohan: it'll be there when it's ready, though
[01:28] <polpak> lol
[01:28] <Xenguy> yohan: sorry, I'm being an ass...
[01:28] <muep> yohan: is there something you absolutely need in gaim2?
[01:28] <Xenguy> yohan: I'm just not interested in this case, no worries
[01:28] <yohan> detox332: did you compile it?
[01:28] <detox332> search for gaim 2.0 some guy made a deb so we can play around with it
[01:28] <zF> nickrud, that seems to be missing from the panel. I see it on this laptop but on the Ubuntu server I'm VNC'd into it's not there
[01:28] <yohan> muep: yeah video camera support
[01:28] <yohan> ive had this problem with glib when compiling other things too :/
[01:28] <Buckuntu> sweet, I'm fully blue now
[01:29] <muep> yohan: you could try to install libglib2.0-dev
[01:29] <detox332> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/?p=99
[01:29] <Buckuntu> I tried to live with the default brown, but I just can't...hehe
[01:29] <yohan> muep: have that one installed
[01:29] <detox332> ive never had a problem yet
[01:29] <Buckuntu> blue is so much more pleasing to my eyes
[01:29] <nickrud> zF: no idea why its not there. you can use locate in a terminal ; if it's a recent addition, you may need to run sudo updatedb first
[01:29] <detox332> just do the usual sudo dpkg -i deal
[01:30] <muep> yohan: you'll mess up your system if you keep compiling stuff like that
[01:30] <yohan> muep: why is that?
[01:30] <yohan> i was going to do a checkinstall -D make install later, isnt that good enough?
[01:30] <muep> yohan: you shouldn't install anything except with the package manager
[01:30] <detox332> ??
[01:30] <zF> nickrud, can I search the file system for files and grep for the name I'm seraching for?
[01:30] <muep> yohan: oh, that is better
[01:30] <yohan> why dude :)
[01:30] <zF> How do I "manually" do that
[01:30] <detox332> never install unless its w/ package manager
[01:30] <detox332> ??
[01:31] <yohan> i know but some things dont exist
[01:31] <muep> checkinstall registers it with dpkg
[01:31] <Buckuntu> man, I love python
[01:31] <Buckuntu> hehe
[01:31] <nickrud> zF: functionally that's what slocate does ; there's also find , which I never took the time to learn
[01:31] <muep> yohan: but it would be wiser to first make the package with a normal user
[01:32] <muep> yohan: and then only install it with sudo and dpkg
[01:32] <yohan> k
[01:32] <blazzzzzzzzzzz> hello all : i have try w3m but it failed .. i'm looking browser that can run from console and can run cgi irc
[01:32] <muep> that way checkinstall can't mess your system even if it wanted
[01:33] <Buckuntu> has anyone actually ever got .dvr-ms files to work on a linux player?
[01:33] <Buckuntu> I know ffmpeg says it has support, but I never could get it working
[01:33] <muep> what are they?
[01:34] <Buckuntu> they are the files that MS media center edition stores recorded TV in
[01:34] <Buckuntu> it's basically some kind of wrapper around either mpeg or asf
[01:34] <Buckuntu> right now I'm running a service that converts the files to mpeg then puts them in a shared folder, but that involves having two copies around and manually deleting them
[01:34] <Ads_> Hi, can anyone recommend me a decent wan utility please? One that'll just allow me to hop onto to an access point since I am in more than one place during the day. Preferably support for profiles thanks. :)
[01:35] <glm2k> blazzzzzzzzzzz: have you tried links?
[01:35] <Buckuntu> I'd love if I could have a player that would let me just watch them on linux from the shared videos folder
[01:35] <SetMeFree> does anyone know how I can use terminal to make all files within a folder executable?
[01:36] <IdleOne> !flight5
[01:36] <ubotu> [flight5]  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[01:36] <muep> SetMeFree: chmod 755 *
[01:36] <nickrud> SetMeFree: chmod +x * /path/to/files/*
[01:36] <ktogias> SetMeFree, chmod +x /path_to_folder/*
[01:36] <blazzzzzzzzzzz> !console browser
[01:36] <ubotu> blazzzzzzzzzzz: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:36] <nickrud> ktogias: you fixed my typo, thanks
[01:36] <Buckuntu> sether, I'd imagine a chmod on a for loop would do it
[01:36] <blazzzzzzzzzzz> hello all : i have try w3m but it failed .. i'm looking browser that can run from console and can run cgi irc
[01:36] <Buckuntu> exact syntax, I have no idea, I should really learn whatever scripting language the console uses
[01:37] <nazgulwalker> what is the file name for adobereader (apt-get install (filename) ) ?
[01:37] <Buckuntu> you might be able to just chmod the bulk of em, dunno if the command works that way
[01:37] <Ads_> Hi, can anyone recommend me a decent wan utility please? One that'll just allow me to hop onto to an access point since I am in more than one place during the day. Preferably support for profiles thanks. :)
[01:37] <Buckuntu> so I guess I know nothing, nm I'll just shutup
[01:37] <SetMeFree> thanks
[01:37] <jason__> pdf reader = evince
[01:37] <nickrud> Buckuntu: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html :)
[01:37] <SetMeFree> how do I change the ownership to a folder and all files/subfolders within that one?
[01:37] <gazanfer> can someone please paste universe and multiverse enabled sources.list?
[01:37] <nickrud> !sources
[01:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:38] <nazgulwalker> what is the file name for adobereader (apt-get install (filename) ) ?
[01:38] <brenner> gazanfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy)
[01:38] <ktogias> SetMeFree, chown -R user:group /path_to_dir/
[01:38] <Buckuntu> I've been using computers since I was like 8 and I just jumped onto linux, quite a transition I must say
[01:38] <nickrud> gazanfer: there're some good sources just above from ubotu
[01:38] <gazanfer> thanks
[01:39] <jason__> nazgulwalker.. It's evince
[01:39] <Ads_> Has anyone else noticed their wireless working better in ubuntu? I mean I used the windows driver via ndiswrapper and my wireless pmcia card works amazingly better in ubuntu lmfao it's brilliant
[01:39] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: evince (or acroread)
[01:39] <brenner> Buckuntu: a good one hopefully
[01:40] <ktogias> Ads_, I use a wirless card with ndiswrapper, but I have never tried it in a Windows box...
[01:40] <Buckuntu> brenner: it's not too bad, the thing that surprises me the most is how much the GUI seems like, disconnected at times
[01:40] <nazgulwalker> i have evince already but when i type acroread it gives error .
[01:40] <Ads_> ktogias: i see, well it's amazingly better in ubunut lol
[01:40] <SetMeFree> I put some php scripts in my www folder... but firefox only wants to download them when I try to access the site
[01:40] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: install it first
[01:41] <volcom_b0i> I noticed my card could scan further then with ndiswrapper when using the native method in dapper.
[01:41] <brenner> Buckuntu: how so?
[01:41] <nazgulwalker> Package acroread is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:41] <nazgulwalker> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:41] <nazgulwalker> is only available from another source
[01:41] <nazgulwalker> However the following packages replace it:
[01:41] <nazgulwalker>   acroread-debian-files
[01:41] <nazgulwalker> E: Package acroread has no installation candidate
[01:41] <Buckuntu> brenner: like I'm used to being able to hand type a path sometimes in an open dialog and that doesn't always show up where I would imagine it would
[01:41] <apokryphos> nazgulwalker: do not paste in here :)
[01:41] <nazgulwalker> i am sorry can you help me ?
[01:41] <Ads_> ktogias: talking about wireless can you recommend a utility for me please? one i can use to hop onto different access points? i use my lapto in many public places with wireless available and i want to be able to hop into an AP by selecing one that's detected any ideas?
[01:42] <IdleOne> nazgulwalker> sudo apt-get install acroread-debian-files
[01:42] <nazgulwalker> then it say it requires acroread .. . .
[01:42] <Buckuntu> hmm
[01:42] <Buckuntu> I don't know why anyone would wanna install a different acrobat reader, I was thoroughly satisfied in that regard
[01:42] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: you need to enable multiverse to get acroread
[01:42] <volcom_b0i> Ads_: learn to do it from the command line.  IT is way more... Stable?
[01:42] <rafase282> hola
[01:43] <nickrud> !multiverse
[01:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:43] <nazgulwalker> multiverse is enabled already
[01:43] <ktogias> Ads_, ubuntu's gnome's system -> System management -> Network is not enough for you?
[01:43] <volcom_b0i> Ads_: once you can do it from the command line, you can make scripts so you just type in console. home, for example and it will connect.
[01:43] <Ads_> ktogias: that doesn't show a list of access points though does it?
[01:43] <brenner> Buckuntu: some files just work better in the official product apparently
[01:43] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin
[01:43] <volcom_b0i> Ads_: type this in console, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[01:43] <nazgulwalker> can you send me the link for pastebin
[01:43] <Ads_> volocom_b0i: how would i get a list of current active APs in my area?
[01:43] <nickrud> !pastebin
[01:44] <Ads_> volocom_b0i: kk i will give it a go
[01:44] <nickrud> !tell nazgulwalker about pastebin
[01:44] <volcom_b0i> Ads_: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan then sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid network_name
[01:44] <Buckuntu> brenner, hehe, I hate adobe acrobat reader, maybe I'm a little biased that way
[01:44] <Buckuntu> I absolutely hate that thing
[01:44] <ktogias> Ads_, I think it does... When you click properties on wireless adapter, it has a dropdown list with the accespoints it scanned...
[01:45] <Nintendud> Alright, something fucked up has happened. Everything in /dev besides initctl and null is gone. I can't mount my cd drives because of it, and I fear that if I reboot it I won't be able to boot back in because I doubt it would be able to mount my hard drives. Anything I can do to fix this besides reinstalling?
[01:45] <nickrud> evince works very nicely, especially the later versions
[01:45] <Ads_> i see
[01:45] <volcom_b0i> Ads_: then, if it has a wep key, you need to do sudo iwconfig wlan0 enc (put your key here)
[01:45] <silvaran> Nintendud: What about /etc/init.d/udev start ?
[01:45] <volcom_b0i> Ads_: then, sudo dhclient wlan0 and viola, its connected
[01:45] <Nintendud> This has also caused a weird error when initializing firefox or mozilla thunderbird: ./run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 24228 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[01:46] <Nintendud> silvaran: run that command?
[01:46] <silvaran> Nintendud: I guess :)
[01:46] <nazgulwalker> ok  i pasted it
[01:46] <silvaran> Nintendud: udev is responsible for creating and removing stuff in /dev, so hey, give 'er.
[01:46] <ktogias> Ads_, volcom_b0i  all this can also be done throught the network manager by klicking
[01:46] <nazgulwalker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10364
[01:46] <Ads_> volocom_b0i: is that key in hex only?
[01:46] <Nintendud> oh okay
[01:46] <Nintendud> oh shit
[01:47] <volcom_b0i> ktogias, yes, but what happends when that doesn't work.  Cause sometimes it doesn't
[01:47] <silvaran> Didn't work?
[01:47] <Protocol1> everything looks good for my java but its not working for some reason...it says everything is installed
[01:47] <Nintendud> no, I forgot to run it as root
[01:47] <volcom_b0i> ktogias: learning to do it right, saves you frustration.
[01:47] <Nintendud> so I closed terminal
[01:47] <Protocol1> can someone help me
[01:47] <Nintendud> and now I can't open another terminal
[01:47] <silvaran> Nintendud: And now gnome-terminal won't start? ;) ...
[01:47] <brenner> where exactly can we view changelogs?  i'd like to see the differences b/n upgrade versions
[01:47] <Nintendud> they error out
[01:47] <silvaran> Nintendud: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:47] <Nintendud> silvaran: aterm and gnome-terminal
[01:47] <Ads_> ktogias: i agree with volocom_b0i, i prefer the terminal anyways
[01:47] <nazgulwalker> can't i install acroread manually ?
[01:48] <silvaran> Nintendud: Or Alt+F2, then "xterm" .. that one might still run ... Alt+F7 to get back to X if you did the Ctrl+Alt+F1 idea.
[01:48] <foampeace> is ther a streamripper for windows
[01:48] <bimberi> Ads_: are you aware of "network-manager".  It's aim is to manage network connections for you.  Not sure how well is does it though.
[01:48] <brenner> nazgulwalker: it's best to use the repos.  have you done an apt-get update yet?
[01:48] <Ads_> bimberi: i am aware of it thanks lol it's ok i've managed to do what i needed to thanks to volocom_b0i
[01:49] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: I don't see anything wrong with those sources (except maybe for security being commented, but thats not the issue here) I just tried downloading it, and got it.
[01:49] <bimberi> Ads_: kk :)
[01:49] <Ads_> :)
[01:49] <Ads_> though i do have an issue i need help with..........
[01:49] <volcom_b0i> I am just saying, if you are stuck in console, then what!?  Console will save you :) I promise.
[01:49] <Ads_> :)
[01:49] <ktogias> volcom_b0i, I agree with you. I prefer terminal too, but It was a good surprise for me to see that all this can be quickly done through the gui... And It has the option whether to use hex or aschii key, and as far as I have used, it always works :P
[01:49] <nazgulwalker> maybe package is not in tr archive is it possible?
[01:50] <nazgulwalker> yes i had done update
[01:50] <silvaran> Wow... I think Nintendud hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 before I could tell him about Alt+F7 :(
[01:50] <volcom_b0i> ktogias: I know, but sometimes your x crashes and you need to connect from the term, I just remember head aches from depending ona  gui, good to know both i guess:)
[01:50] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: it's possible, but unlikely. Try removing tr. from each line it's in, and updating again. See what happens.
[01:51] <bimberi> nazgulwalker: it's in the multiverse repository.  Is that enabled?
[01:51] <IdleOne> nazgulwalker>  Im apt-get acroread right now so its in the repos
[01:51] <nazgulwalker> i tried it already but it gives error when i remove "tr."
[01:51] <ktogias> Ads_, If you are a terminal boy too, then learn the good and compatible console way.
[01:51] <Ads_> ktogias: do you know a place where i can get a quick acess to all these useful commands for the console?
[01:51] <nickrud> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10364 <--- nazgulwalker's sources
[01:51] <volcom_b0i> Just good to know, nothing wrong with GUI, but be sure to know both :)
[01:51] <apokryphos> !cli
[01:51] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[01:51] <IdleOne> !tell Ads_ about cli
[01:52] <Ads_> cool
[01:52] <Ads_> ok guys can any of you help with one more problem? my ubuntu boot sequence? it stays stuck on "setting up LVM volumes" for agessss then finally boots into ubuntu
[01:52] <volcom_b0i> Ive learned so much just from sitting in these rooms, it is nice to see that the dapper room is moving today :)
[01:53] <bimberi> nickrud: my apologies, i'm coming in late and uninformed
[01:53] <apokryphos> decent command line cheat sheet, too: http://www.sloppycode.net/nix/
[01:53] <volcom_b0i> wait, what room, oops in breezy!
[01:53] <nickrud> bimberi: no, extra eyes hurt nothing
[01:53] <volcom_b0i> I thought it was moving fast, dapper is usuallky... slower!
[01:53] <bimberi> nickrud: :)
[01:53] <thomas`> how can i find out my router ip?
[01:53] <brenner> volcom_b0i: hehe
[01:53] <thomas`> ip info?
[01:54] <thomas`> i forgot command line for terminal
[01:54] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: removing tr. so you have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted shouldn't get you an error (don't forget to update)
[01:54] <Suture> Is gnome 2.14 on backports?
[01:54] <Protocol1> thomas, ip addr
[01:54] <muep> Suture: no
[01:54] <Suture> Will it be?
[01:54] <muep> too big
[01:54] <Suture> Ok
[01:54] <nalioth> Suture: 2.14 will only run in dapper
[01:54] <IdleOne> thomas`> ifconfig will give you that info
[01:55] <thomas`> nice thanks
[01:55] <Suture> nalioth: really? why?
[01:55] <volcom_b0i> Suture: yes, to my knowledge it runs onlky in dapper, It is nice! :)
[01:55] <rukuartic> Adurrr.... what was that screenshot utility?
[01:55] <nalioth> differences in xorg
[01:55] <nalioth> Suture: ^^^^
[01:55] <rukuartic> The console one...
[01:55] <Nintendud> silvaran: haha, didn't work, it just restarted my computer.. but restarting fixed it
[01:55] <IdleOne> rukuartic> scrot
[01:55] <Suture> I see.. is it relatively safe to get dapper now that its 5?
[01:55] <rukuartic> IdleOne: Thats it... I kept on thinking it was shottie
[01:55] <Nintendud> I logged in and it didn't let me do anything at the command line... just said You have new mail and froze there ;p
[01:56] <nazgulwalker> o had remove the ".tr" from sources.list updated,upgraded and tried again but i see the same error
[01:56] <nazgulwalker> nickrud: i tried those and i saw the same error ..
[01:56] <Nintendud> then it restarted, and now everything is all good
[01:56] <IdleOne> rukuartic> how do you forget a word like scrot?>
[01:56] <IdleOne> lol
[01:56] <muep> Suture: it is safe if you can use the command line
[01:56] <Suture> muep: k
[01:56] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: how about pasting the error from the apt-get update?
[01:56] <muep> so you can fix things if it breaks
[01:56] <sword-> hey whats up
[01:56] <volcom_b0i> Suture: My dapper took a few hours of CLI work.
[01:56] <sword-> what are some good programs to covert flac files to mp3
[01:56] <sword-> ?
[01:56] <Suture> muep: before i look for a upgrade howto is there some easy way to do it?
[01:56] <Buckuntu> samba sometimes acts funny
[01:56] <muep> Suture: it is very easy
[01:56] <Buckuntu> what's with that?
[01:57] <Ads_> i need some help with streaming wmv files on webpages..........seeing as media player obviously isn't in linux flavour........i tried the gstramer firefox plugin but that just crashes firefox so i need an alternative if possible
[01:57] <__mikem> There appears to be a newer version of gnome available, is it safe to assume that I can just install it and it will run fine
[01:57] <volcom_b0i> Suture: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all breezy to dapper
[01:57] <nazgulwalker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10366
[01:57] <gazanfer> how can i enable volume control buttons on my notebook?
[01:57] <fladd> hi there, does anyone know how i can remove dead entries from my /usr/share/info/dir file?
[01:57] <IdleOne> !tell Ads_ about mplayer
[01:57] <Suture> volcom_b0i: ok thats what i thought i had to do
[01:57] <Buckuntu> __mikem, if you can compile from source let me know how please....hehe
[01:57] <Suture> Thanks for the info
[01:57] <volcom_b0i> Suture: type in console, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and hold on to your socks :)
[01:57] <__mikem> They have binary installers on the gnome site
[01:58] <Suture> volcom_b0i:  ;)
[01:58] <brenner> gazanfer: easy method: sys>prefs>k/b/ shorcuts.  harder method: doing it through xorg
[01:58] <_jason> Ads_: install mplayer using the bot's link and then install the mozilla-mplayer package for the plugin
[01:58] <Buckuntu> really?  I didn't see that
[01:58] <__mikem> O wait never mind
[01:58] <__mikem> I didn't see the word "source" in "source tarbols"
[01:58] <Ads_> _jason: will do
[01:58] <gazanfer> brenner, i'm not using gnome...
[01:58] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: very strange, because this shows it should be there: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=acroread&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[01:59] <brenner> gazanfer: what then?
[01:59] <volcom_b0i> Suture: are you using ndiswrapper?
[01:59] <gazanfer> brenner, xfce4
[02:00] <__mikem> xfce is good, but its too hard to customize
[02:00] <nazgulwalker> what will i do
[02:00] <IdleOne> gazanfer>  that doesnt make a diff
[02:00] <__mikem> !xfce
[02:00] <ubotu> I heard xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[02:00] <volcom_b0i> :) xfce4 is nice, too bad it isn't working with dapper!  BTW do not dist-upgrade with xfce4 instlaled.
[02:00] <nazgulwalker> is it about security?(sources.list)
[02:00] <radagrad> Is there a webpage somewhere here I can see the versions of packages currently in Dapper?
[02:00] <__mikem> volcom_b0i what will happen
[02:00] <brenner> IdleOne: it doesn't?
[02:01] <volcom_b0i> __mikem: you will get depend errors during your upgrade, you will lose your install, I promise!
[02:01] <gazanfer> volcom_b0i, why is that?
[02:01] <volcom_b0i> __mikem: It happened to me a few days ago.
[02:01] <Shadowpillar> !skype
[02:01] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[02:01] <Shadowpillar> !gizmo
[02:01] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Shadowpillar
[02:01] <IdleOne> brenner>  hmmm wait I think I was thinking about nazgulwalker  problem sorry
[02:01] <__mikem> oh ok
[02:01] <Shadowpillar> anyone know which repo offers skype?
[02:01] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: use evince, and I would doubt it. You should have security enabled anyway on general principles
[02:01] <IdleOne> !tell Shadowline about skype
[02:02] <Kelsey23> !tell Kelsey23 about skype
[02:02] <brenner> gazanfer: try #xfce then
[02:02] <gazanfer> brenner, thank you
[02:02] <IdleOne> brenner>  next time Ill read before I chime in :/
[02:02] <__mikem> I like kde best, but I can't get kde to run in screen resolutions higher than 1024x768
[02:02] <nazgulwalker> i am upgrading security updates right now then i will try again
[02:03] <brenner> IdleOne: no worries. i do it too.
[02:03] <IdleOne> hehe
[02:03] <brenner> __mikem: and other DEs do?  that's weird
[02:03] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: are you on i386 ?
[02:03] <nazgulwalker> no , amd64
[02:03] <nickrud> HA!
[02:03] <__mikem> I love my amd64
[02:04] <sword-> what are some good programs to covert flac files to mp3
[02:04] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: I use i386, and assume everyone does, acroread is not there for amd64.
[02:04] <ubuntu_> hi
[02:04] <nazgulwalker> oh , i see .
[02:04] <ubuntu_> im ubuntu user
[02:04] <nazgulwalker> thanks anyway
[02:05] <brenner> sword-: soundconverter maybe
[02:05] <SyL> is there a way to not have hotplug start during booting? like a lilo/grub argument you can add?
[02:05] <rukuartic> Anyone know how I can get rid of the window in gnome-terminal? Der... the bounding box... so I just get that neat little transparant window instead of having the minimize stuff etc? Kinda like on Gentoo boxes...
[02:05] <brenner> sword-: search your packaged
[02:05] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: I'll know to ask that next time
[02:05] <rukuartic> SyL: Gotta edit your init.rd
[02:05] <brenner> s/packaged/packages
[02:05] <_jason> rukuartic: yes, I know of a way: devilspie
[02:05] <SyL> rukuartic: I can't get to it... system stops at "starting hot plugging" =)
[02:06] <rukuartic> SyL: Try using "sysvconfig"... gotta install it
[02:06] <snooo> help! just upgraded to dapper and xorg wont boot... whats the command for reconfiguring the xserver?
[02:06] <rukuartic> _jason: that an alternative to gnome-console?
[02:06] <IdleOne> join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[02:06] <__mikem> How do I get Ubuntu to run faster in VM Ware
[02:06] <isodude> Hey, if dpkg-reconfigure -a doesn't help when I'm getting "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." from sudo apt-get update. What can one do then?
[02:06] <_jason> !devilspie
[02:06] <ubotu> I heard devilspie is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Devilspie and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75749, for later versions not in the breezy repositories: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98071
[02:06] <__mikem> How do I get Ubuntu to run faster in VM Ware
[02:06] <rukuartic> And all of a sudden, #ubuntu+1 was flooded with users looking for pie.
[02:06] <brenner> SyL: i think you can pass 'nothotplug' to grub.  not sure if that's the option though
[02:06] <nickrud> a well named package if I ever saw one
[02:06] <brenner> s/nothotplug/nohotplug
[02:06] <YukiCuss> __mikem, don't use VMware. : )
[02:06] <ubuntu_> mais algum usuario do ubuntu brasileiro aqui?
[02:06] <Shadowpillar> __mikem: did you install the vmware drivers within ubuntu on vmware?
[02:06] <ubuntu_> sou so eu?
[02:07] <_jason> !br
[02:07] <IdleOne> isodude> try dpkg --configure -a
[02:07] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:07] <isodude> snooo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <__mikem> Yup
[02:07] <V4Vendetta> abiword is my favorite program
[02:07] <V4Vendetta> :-P
[02:07] <Shadowpillar> __mikem: and configure xorg to use the vmware display drivers?
[02:07] <rukuartic> _jason: How exactly you reccomend going about that?
[02:07] <isodude> IdleOne: oh, a answer :) i'll try.
[02:07] <kfirb> ubuntu informs me of 2 new updates (dhcpclient and dhcp3common). it says it can not authenticate the sources.. why ??
[02:07] <__mikem> YukiCus I don't have much of a choice because my laptop that I was running ubuntu on died
[02:07] <__mikem> shadowpiller, I don't know
[02:07] <_jason> rukuartic: one sec
[02:07] <V4Vendetta> kfirb, that's okay, install them
[02:07] <__mikem> I believe so
[02:07] <SyL> brenner: heh, thanks, I was hoping for a confirmation, but that will do... =)
[02:07] <YukiCuss> ... >_>
[02:08] <V4Vendetta> anyone here a medical student?
[02:08] <kfirb> I don't have much choices (other than not to install) however, why can't it authenticate?
[02:08] <ITSa341> Who was it that was trying to help me with my gps drivers? I had the RH drivers and was trying to figure out how to convert them.  Are ya here now?
[02:08] <V4Vendetta> kfirb, dunno.
[02:08] <Buckuntu> has anyone heard of a distro that is going to include XGL soon?
[02:08] <V4Vendetta> Buckuntu, yes
[02:09] <__mikem> Shadowpiller, what command would I use to find out
[02:09] <Buckuntu> what is it?
[02:09] <V4Vendetta> Buckuntu, they have a live cd
[02:09] <V4Vendetta> Buckuntu, i forget the name
[02:09] <Buckuntu> yeah, I tried out the live cd
[02:09] <ITSa341> IdleOne   that's right it was you that was trying to help me
[02:09] <V4Vendetta> Buckuntu, was the live-cd good?
[02:09] <IdleOne> isodude>  look at the error you got dude you had the solution the whole time :)
[02:09] <Buckuntu> yeah, it's actually pretty great
[02:09] <Buckuntu> even on my TI4200 I have on this
[02:09] <Buckuntu> works very nicely
[02:09] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  did you get it working?
[02:09] <Buckuntu> the most impressive thing is the cube for virtual desktops
[02:09] <Buckuntu> that's really nice
[02:09] <__mikem> The sad thing is, the live cd runs faster than an instalation does on vmware
[02:09] <isodude> lol
[02:10] <_jason> rukuartic: ok, first you have to get and install devilspie, then spend a few minutes learning how to create rules for devilspie, then create on that matches gnome-terminal and removes decoration (I can't remember the exact item, just tell me if you can't find it)
[02:10] <isodude> IdleOne: could be the small amount of sleep that does it. haha thanks for clearing that up anyway.
[02:10] <rukuartic> _jason: Hehe... Alright I'll see if I can getit ...
[02:10] <V4Vendetta> goddamn paper on parts of the brain
[02:10] <V4Vendetta> ---
[02:10] <ITSa341> IdleOne  I got my GPS working as well as GPS drive    hehe  Duh, the drivers for the chipset were already in Ubuntu and Xandros  I just needed a symlink to /dev/gps
[02:10] <rukuartic> _jason: So I'd run the terminal with devilspie?
[02:10] <_jason> rukuartic: I put it in system > prefs > session > startup
[02:11] <intelikey> __mikem not unusual,  vm is having to emulate more for the installed.
[02:11] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  glad to hear you got it going ...now your clear on windows :)
[02:11] <isodude> Someone who has experienced any hangups with dapper?
[02:11] <IdleOne> s/on/of
[02:11] <_jason> rukuartic: devilspie just ``modifies'' your windows.  For example you can tell it to always put firefox on your second workspace
[02:11] <YukiCuss> isodude, I called her last night, but she kept hanging up on me!
[02:11] <ITSa341> GPS Drive is NOT even close to ready for primetime yet but if I can get Position working I'll be all set from what I have been told
[02:11] <isodude> I had it all the time, when chatting / surfing , playing music w/e
[02:11] <smog> How do you find out your linux kernal version?
[02:12] <isodude> Thought it might have to do with Cool'n'quiet since I'm running amd64
[02:12] <sword-> thanks brenner
[02:12] <intelikey> my w hurts.
[02:12] <YukiCuss> smog, uname -a
[02:12] <_jason> smog: uname -r
[02:12] <smog> thank you
[02:12] <rukuartic> _jason: Nice. You know where I can get the base .devilspie.xml file?
[02:12] <ITSa341> IdleOne  have you ever installed Position?
[02:12] <__mikem> Im getting hungary, WHERES THAT DEVILSPIE
[02:12] <intelikey> my "who" hurts also.
[02:12] <isodude> Then I went into bios and clocked down the FSB to standard clock ( from 220 to 200 ), has worked perfect since
[02:12] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  nope never
[02:12] <isodude> 2h now :)
[02:12] <_jason> rukuartic: I've never used the early versions where xml was still used.  But I believe there is no base.  You just create one with the rule you want.  The first forum link ubotu had has a good tutorial iirc
[02:13] <ITSa341> IdleOne  well, thanks for your help the other day anyway. I really appreciate the help you and others are so willing to give in this room.
[02:13] <_jason> rukuartic: that reminds me, I can't guarantee the no-decorations thing exists in the repo version :)
[02:13] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  its all about Ubuntu :)
[02:13] <brenner> awwww
[02:13] <isodude> YukiCuss: misread that line of yours as well..
[02:14] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  and your welcome
[02:14] <isodude> Somethings wrong with my eyes tongiht
[02:14] <kfirb> I I hope it's okay to ask this question here, but since I run ubuntu I consider it legitimate.. but there goes my case: I would like to run a program in a terminal, not to see it's output everytime, only when I wish to. I think redirecting the output via >a.txt and then cating a.txt whenever I wish to see it's output should work.
[02:14] <isodude> ronight
[02:14] <isodude> :(
[02:14] <ITSa341> IdleOne   It might be all about ubuntu but I have also found a lot of the info to work great in Xandros 4 as well
[02:14] <rukuartic> _jason: Hehe I know...
[02:14] <katarot> arggh i disconnected my laptop from my router and then plug it into my actual modem and it works fine on xp but not with ubuntu whats wrong
[02:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kfirb: it should... some programs have options for where they output text built-in
[02:15] <smog> What is the full path of iptables?
[02:15] <isodude> YukiCuss: You got a friend called dapper ?
[02:15] <_jason> kfirb: yes, recall that stderr will still go to your terminal though.  if you want to redirect both stdout and stderr, your would do &> isntead of > in bash
[02:15] <YukiCuss> isodude, no, I was just kidding. :)
[02:15] <kfirb> however, I wish to detach it completly from the terminal it was ran in. (I actually wish to start remote bittorrent through ssh, and every now and then watch the progress from different computer)
[02:15] <ITSa341> IdleOne  I sometimes just sit here and bookmark a lot of the help links I see given in here for study later.
[02:15] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  hehe what I meant was it's the Ubuntu way. Learn it once,do it once,teach it !
[02:15] <isodude> smog: find /usr -name iptables
[02:15] <brenner> smog: which <command>
[02:15] <themachine> what are some good wireless network tools?
[02:15] <whiter> hello, something is wrong with my desktop...
[02:15] <whiter> my trash disappeared and when i add stuff to it it doesnt display
[02:16] <whiter> the icons go to the desktop folder but it doesnt actually show on the desktop
[02:16] <Nameeater> kfirb: use screen
[02:16] <isodude> YukiCuss: heh, ok. geez. not funny !
[02:16] <themachine> I'm on a latptop and I want to be able to see other networks
[02:16] <isodude> ethercap? =)
[02:16] <rukuartic> _jason: I got it installed... Still a little lost on what to do now...
[02:16] <YukiCuss> isodude, heh, sorry ><
[02:16] <_jason> kfirb: yep, screen is perfect for what you want
[02:16] <isodude> YukiCuss: it's late i'll forgive you :P
[02:16] <kfirb> nameeater: problem is, when I log off ssh sessions, I quit screen.
[02:16] <__mikem> I can't take this slow speed
[02:16] <Nameeater> shouldnt do
[02:16] <YukiCuss> isodude, nup, early here!
[02:16] <Nameeater> o.O
[02:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kfirb: Install detachtty
[02:17] <intelikey> my "w" hurts.
[02:17] <kfirb> then I have to close the process.. or is there a way to make it visible after I log off and log on from somewhere else
[02:17] <_jason> rukuartic: can you create a simple rule?
[02:17] <rukuartic> _jason: I know no XML...
[02:17] <Nameeater> you have to reattach
[02:17] <khafra> dmesg keeps giving me a keyboard error, several a second: .c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[02:17] <_jason> rukuartic: did you read the forum tutorial?
[02:17] <ITSa341> Anyone here ever install Position? I get nothing but errors when running "make install".   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10368
[02:17] <isodude> er, I don't have /ctcp
[02:17] <isodude> :O
[02:17] <khafra> What's up with that?
[02:18] <katarot> i know ubuntu recognises it because when i go to networks i see eth1 and i set my default gateway device to eth1 aswell
[02:18] <_jason> kfirb: screen -r, will work if you only have one screen
[02:18] <rukuartic> _jason: Oh they have something on the forums? Adurrr... Do you have a link offhand?
[02:18] <khafra> I don't know what the key is.
[02:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> khafra: try un'select'ing your numlock key
[02:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell rukuartic about devilspie
[02:18] <kfirb> _jason: problem is, I wish to log off completely from where I start the process, therefore I must quit screen at some point.
[02:18] <Brunellus> where does epiphany keep its bookmark file?
[02:18] <isodude> YukiCuss: wonder what name dapper whould be a nickname for though
[02:19] <isodude> daphny
[02:19] <isodude> :D
[02:19] <_jason> kfirb: why do you have to quit screen?
[02:19] <Nameeater> kfirb: you just dutatch
[02:19] <Nameeater> detatch*
[02:19] <khafra> PuMpErNiCkLe: Interesting.  No new errors so far--now, how can I use the numerical keypad without incurring hte errors?
[02:19] <intelikey> hmmm my sudo hurts too.
[02:19] <Xenguy> kfirb: -d
[02:19] <Nameeater> and it keeps running and when you relogin you reattach to sceen
[02:19] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  sudo who
[02:19] <intelikey> sudo: unable to lookup concorde via gethostbyname()
[02:19] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~] 
[02:19] <ITSa341> IdleOne  I'm almost Windows free, still running it side by side for the moment but not so bad since I am running it simultaneos and sharing one filesystem instead of dual booting. I can save in Win and access it in Linux and vice cersa
[02:19] <_jason> kfirb: ctrl-a d, detaches
[02:20] <intelikey> ?
[02:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> khafra: not sure, I never bothered trying to _fix_ it myself :o)
[02:20] <ITSa341> versa**
[02:20] <ocrsystem> aalquien que hable espaol
[02:20] <ocrsystem> ?
[02:20] <Xenguy> intelikey: /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname  ?
[02:20] <rukuartic> _jason: Oh geez man sorry, didn't see it
[02:20] <kfirb> _jason.. .ok, I'll try that.. thanks
[02:20] <_jason> !es
[02:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:20] <khafra> PuMpErNiCkLe: Damn.  I hate the numbers above the alphabetical part.
[02:20] <intelikey> Xenguy what about them ?
[02:20] <_jason> intelikey: paste the first line in each of them
[02:20] <khafra> Ah, well, thanks anyway
[02:20] <Xenguy> intelikey: causes ?
[02:20] <katarot> is there something i need to do before i get internet
[02:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> khafra: It's still usable, it'll just keep spewing errors.
[02:21] <djk_> how do i install grub only without installing ubuntu?
[02:21] <kfirb> how do I reattach ?
[02:21] <_jason> kfirb: screen -r
[02:21] <intelikey> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[02:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> khafra: Which is the really odd part about it, but nothing I've actually tried to solve, yet.
[02:21] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  cat /etc/hostname
[02:21] <intelikey> concorde
[02:21] <khafra> PuMpErNiCkLe: I thought it might be why my mouse stops responding and needs to be un-and re-plugged every now and then
[02:21] <ocrsystem> Hello  somebody Spanish speech?
[02:22] <FlannelKing> !es
[02:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:22] <intelikey> the first was the /etc/hosts  of course
[02:22] <_jason> intelikey: change the first line in /etc/hosts to ``127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost concorde'', you may need to boot in recovery mode
[02:22] <Xenguy> intelikey: looks fine
[02:22] <Xenguy> intelikey: nm
[02:23] <intelikey> _jason is that change nessarry ?  i have no network, just dialup ?
[02:23] <ocrsystem> Hello  somebody Spanish speech?
[02:23] <kfirb> ok. so now it remains only a linux theoretical question for me, how to run the program silently, while it outputs to a file I can cat later...
[02:23] <rukuartic> _jason: I'm still kinda lost
[02:23] <_jason> intelikey: for sudo to work it is
[02:23] <rukuartic> ocrsystem: #ubuntu-es
[02:23] <intelikey> ok
[02:23] <rukuartic> ocrsystem: :)
[02:23] <Xenguy> intelikey: I think you pasted /etc/hostname...
[02:23] <Xenguy> intelikey: /etc/hosts is more as _jason describes
[02:23] <intelikey> ok that fixed sudo
[02:24] <intelikey> but my "who" still hutrs
[02:24] <intelikey> hurts
[02:24] <whiter> wow i need a little help
[02:24] <_jason> intelikey: are you using dapper?
[02:24] <whiter> i need to find out where these icons are
[02:24] <intelikey> no hoary
[02:24] <Xenguy> intelikey: my gawd, upgrade
[02:24] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  sudo who
[02:24] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~] 
[02:24] <_jason> rukuartic: about which part?
[02:24] <rukuartic> _jason: Hold up... Doing a bright thing and using google XD
[02:24] <intelikey> Xenguy no dialup.  not likely.
[02:24] <_jason> intelikey: you don't use sudo when you are root
[02:25] <whiter> _jason im in /usr/share/gnome-app-install and i see 'Rhythmbox Music Player' and its using an icon that i want to know the location of
[02:25] <whiter> anyone know how?
[02:25] <intelikey> _jason ok then why does who not work ?
[02:25] <Xenguy> intelikey: I used to do that by dialup - just do it on a weekend at nights --  :-)
[02:25] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  who
[02:25] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~] 
[02:25] <Xenguy> er, works :-)
[02:25] <_jason> intelikey: are you using dapper?
[02:25] <nickrud> whiter: try locate <filename>
[02:25] <intelikey> 5.4
[02:25] <whiter> ...
[02:26] <whiter> i dont know what the filename is
[02:26] <whiter> how am i supposed to locate
[02:26] <intelikey> 5.4 _jason
[02:26] <Frogzoo> intelikey: what perms u have on /lib/libproc*
[02:26] <intelikey> 755
[02:26] <_jason> intelikey: hrmm, I asked because someone was reporting some problems on dapper earlier.  I don't know why who would not work
[02:27] <TraceGreen> hello, how can i make my fsck run less time when boot up?
[02:27] <kfirb> ok, so how do I start a program in the back ground (I assume by adding & at the end), and then when I quit the bash which opened it, I want it to be independent of it.
[02:27] <Frogzoo> intelikey: strace who > /tmp/xx & pastebin
[02:27] <intelikey> _jason yes it is a problem only if you do the server install.
[02:27] <nickrud> whiter, a moment, I'm on dapper, I need to check my breezy partition
[02:27] <_jason> intelikey: oh
[02:27] <capiCrimm> if I have a path like /home/foo/bar is there a command I can use to see the permission of each folder(or do I just ls each one?)
[02:27] <ITSa341> Anyone here ever install Position ( http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/ ) ? I get nothing but errors when running "make install".   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10368
[02:27] <whiter> ok nevermind i found it
[02:27] <whiter> its good...
[02:27] <whiter> now, can someone help me with my desktop
[02:28] <whiter> it wont show anything i do to it as far as icons
[02:28] <whiter> and it wont show my trash icon anymore
[02:28] <Frogzoo> capiCrimm: find . -type d -exec ls -ld {} \;
[02:28] <katarot> why is this not working if have connected it to the modem it works fine on xp but in ubuntu it still wont let me
[02:28] <whiter> and trash is selected in the configuration editor too
[02:29] <intelikey> Frogzoo empty file.
[02:29] <akk> Anyone know what's up with mysql 4.1? The server puts its socket at /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock, the mysql client wants to find it at /tmp/mysql.sock
[02:29] <intelikey> do you want 2> xx ?
[02:29] <Frogzoo> intelikey: maybe strace, too, is messed up...
[02:29] <akk> so I tried changing the server's config to use /tmp/mysql.sock, but then the client still doesn't work because mysqladmin is looking in /var/run
[02:30] <Frogzoo> intelikey: you're not the only one with this problem, btw
[02:30] <cafuego> akk: only if you perhaps edited .ny.cnf or are running an old client
[02:30] <intelikey> no it outputs on screen  meanint it is stderr
[02:30] <bimberi> man strace
[02:30] <katarot> anyone got a dell inspiron 1300
[02:30] <intelikey> meaning
[02:30] <akk> cafuego: I have no /etc/my.conf
[02:30] <Frogzoo> intelikey: oh, then 2>&1 sure
[02:30] <kfirb> is there a quick way to mount/burn .cue/.bin files ?
[02:30] <cafuego> akk: I never mentioned /etc
[02:30] <cafuego> kbrooks: bchunk -> iso -> mount; You cna burn them using 'cdrdao'.
[02:30] <akk> cafuego: I have no ~/.my.conf either
[02:31] <cafuego> akk: ~/.my.cnf
[02:31] <intelikey> well no need for 1 it was blank remember :)
[02:31] <intelikey> !paste
[02:31] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:31] <cafuego> akk: Using an older client, or a client linked against an older libmysqclient.so?
[02:31] <akk> man mysqladmin doesn't tell me where it's finding its config files
[02:31] <kbrooks> cafuego, ???
[02:31] <childe> Hello. How do you play Flash on x86_64 machines?
[02:31] <cafuego> kbrooks: kfirb
[02:32] <cafuego> kfirb:  bchunk -> iso -> mount; You cna burn them using 'cdrdao'.
[02:32] <akk> cafuego: I seem to have all versions of libmysqlclient*-dev, but for the server and client I only have 4.1 (I think ... checking again)
[02:32] <nickrud> childe: you don't, macromedia never released a 64bit player
[02:32] <intelikey> Frogzoo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10369
[02:32] <cafuego> childe: Some flash(7) stuff plays using 'gplflash'.
[02:33] <whiter> anyone?
[02:33] <kfirb> cafuego: can you supply more (a bit) details?
[02:33] <punkrockguy318> whiter: what was your question?
[02:33] <khafra> Hey, if I'm getting sensord alarms every minute saying Chip it8712-isa-0290: -5V: -13.64 V (min = -5.26 V, max = -4.77 V) and  Chip it8712-isa-0290: -12V: -4.90 V (min = -12.63 V, max = -11.41 V), what did I do backwards?
[02:33] <whiter> oh
[02:33] <whiter> my desktop wont update
[02:33] <childe> cafuego: Is gplflahs also called gnash?
[02:33] <khafra> And should I be worried, since those are out of range anyway?
[02:33] <cafuego> kfirb: about what?
[02:33] <whiter> like i put icons on the desktop but nothing changes
[02:33] <Xenguy> punkrockguy318: /lastlog whiter
[02:33] <titanium> i'm trying to get synergy client to run when my system starts. i'm following the SynergyHowTo guide and i added the entry to my /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default but it isn't running.
[02:34] <kfirb> mounting it,  what is bchunk ?
[02:34] <whiter> except in the /desktop folder
[02:34] <kfirb> do I have to convert it to an iso first?
[02:34] <punkrockguy318> Xenguy: wow! i never knew about that feature
[02:34] <nalioth> kfirb: binchunker converts bin/cue files into an .iso image
[02:34] <cafuego> kfirb: If you want to mount it, yes.
[02:34] <nickrud> whiter: try killall gam_server
[02:34] <cafuego> kfirb: If you only want to write to to a disc, use cdrdao.
[02:34] <Xenguy> punkrockguy318: it's like a grep for IRC :-)
[02:34] <djk_> how big is a standard install of ubuntu?
[02:34] <akk> Any mysql experts who can tell me how to get mysqld, mysql, and mysqladmin all on the same page about where to put the socket?
[02:34] <katarot> i swear it is this laptop it dosent like ubuntu i cant use ndiswrapper so i connect it directly to my modem and go to networks and then i see it eth1 and i set it up as static ip and then i change my default gateway to eth1 but nothing no internet at all
[02:34] <intelikey> Frogzoo ?
[02:34] <punkrockguy318> whiter: I'm pretty sure I've had that happen to me as well... Did you try logging out and logging back in?
[02:34] <Ads_> damn firefox really slows down my system can someone help? thanks
[02:34] <cafuego> djk_: ~ 2GB
[02:35] <whiter> yea
[02:35] <whiter> i restarted it
[02:35] <Frogzoo> intelikey: ls -l /var/run/utmp ?
[02:35] <Juhaz> childe, no, gplflash is older project, now mostly inactive and will be surpassed by gnash
[02:35] <khafra> What do voltage alarms mean to me, as a person who cares about my CPU life?
[02:35] <intelikey> nothing there
[02:35] <ZeZu> how can i set the resolution of my second display independantly of the first?
[02:35] <kfirb> cafuego: thanks.
[02:35] <ZeZu> and make it use another workspace would be nice too
[02:35] <punkrockguy318> whiter: I'm not sure of a solution off hand.  I belive this has been fixed in Dapper, the next release.  DId you try searching the forums?  There may be a fix or workaround there?
[02:35] <cafuego> khafra: Yiou get incorrect results on voltages because you didn't customise the sensors.conf file.
[02:36] <Frogzoo> intelikey: ah, well I wonder why... - that's broken for sure
[02:36] <whiter> havent searched yet
[02:36] <whiter> i will though
[02:36] <Frogzoo> ls -l /var/run   ?
[02:36] <Frogzoo> ls -ld /var/run   ?
[02:36] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  ls -ld /var/run
[02:36] <intelikey> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Mar 16 19:34 /var/run
[02:36] <khafra> cafuego: Thanks--are they incorrect, just reversed?  Or are they incorrect and probably not out of range, too?
[02:36] <punkrockguy318> whiter: that would be your best bet
[02:37] <cafuego> khafra: Well, at best sensors stuff tends to be wildly inaccurate; yours looks reversed too :-)
[02:37] <kfirb> cafuego: do you know what's the package name to install in synaptic?
[02:38] <cafuego> kfirb: bchunk
[02:38] <whiter> one more question
[02:38] <kethinov> hi all, i just borked a dapper system by installing hotplug. now none of my usb works, nor does my network card... what can i do?
[02:38] <whiter> i want to go to /home/thomas/.icons
[02:38] <whiter> from within one of those menu things
[02:38] <geiner> cual es la ultima actualizacion de linux ubuntu
[02:38] <whiter> but the folder is hidden
[02:38] <ihatetripe> Hi everyone. Quick question. Does anyone know of any application that can rescue data from knackered CDs/DVDs? Preferably with a GUI. Thanks!
[02:38] <khafra> cafuego: Are there any handy-dandy guides, perhaps by motherboard, chipset, or whatever's applicable, to calibrating the sensors?
[02:38] <titanium> how can i get Synergy to run when my ubuntu system starts? i tried running it in etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default but it didn't start. i know it's configured and working because if i connect to my ubuntu system with NXclient and start synergyc from there, THEN it works.
[02:38] <childe> Juhaz: OK, then where can I get a x86_64 version of Gnash for Ubuntu?
[02:38] <kfirb> cafuego: and 10x again
[02:38] <whiter> and the only way i know how to show hidden folders is through nautil
[02:39] <bimberi> whiter: ctrl-H
[02:39] <khafra> Or is there any better way to figure out if my cpu is overheating?
[02:39] <whiter> ctrl+h only works in the file manager
[02:39] <punkrockguy318> whiter: ctrl-H
[02:39] <bimberi> whiter: ah, thought you were using nautilus sorry
[02:39] <whiter> yea, im in the "Select File" thing
[02:39] <Overand> is there an easy way to get a 'classic' style (bitmapped) terminal font ala 'terminal' on win32 or 'Linux' in Konsole?
[02:39] <nickrud> whiter: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gamin/+bug/13428
[02:39] <cafuego> khafra: See if another user with the same mobo has anything via google.
[02:39] <Juhaz> childe, they haven't made a release yet, so unless you want to check a pre-alpha version out of cvs...
[02:39] <intelikey> Frogzoo ?
[02:40] <benji> anyone got a copy oof the super grub disk (ISO)?
[02:40] <punkrockguy318> whiter: right click and click show hidden files
[02:40] <Frogzoo> intelikey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-134418.html   .... doesn't look promising...
[02:41] <benji> anyone got a copy of the super grub disk (ISO) or know where i can get one from?
[02:41] <ITSa341> can anyone here help me install Position ( http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/ ) ? I get nothing but errors when running "make install".   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10368
[02:41] <whyami> if I want to prevent the pcspkr module from loading on boot, what should I do?
[02:42] <whiter> alrighty
[02:42] <whiter> now to the desktop
[02:42] <whiter> heh
[02:42] <jeff_> Is anyone running a tablet here?
[02:42] <Zarephath> How do I change me default assigned UID from 1000 to 501..I have a different hard drive mounted and I can't get into certain folders
[02:42] <Protocol1> where do I go about editing my time?
[02:42] <childe> Juhaz: I think I will give up
[02:42] <intelikey> Frogzoo made utmp with 664 no help.
[02:43] <whiter> and the other issue is fixed
[02:43] <whiter> wow ok
[02:43] <Protocol1> my time changes in windows when I come from ubuntu
[02:43] <childe> Juhaz: Anyway, it's just a site with a Flash movie as it's frontpage. I want to skip the Flash to the real page
[02:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> whyami: Possibly adding it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist will do it.
[02:43] <rukuartic> _jason: I got it to work :D
[02:43] <_jason> rukuartic: great
[02:43] <rukuartic> _jason: so how do I move my window now I got rid of the titles? :P
[02:43] <Frogzoo> intelikey: utmp only gets written at login
[02:44] <_jason> rukuartic: hold down alt and drag
[02:44] <rukuartic> _jason: resize?
[02:44] <cafuego> !info squeak
[02:44] <_jason> rukuartic: hold down alt and middle click drag I think
[02:44] <whyami> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks. I'll try it.
[02:44] <intelikey> yep good call. Frogzoo  that did it.
[02:45] <Frogzoo> intelikey: but don't know who clobbered the file in the 1st place - needs to get fixed
[02:45] <Protocol1> !time
[02:45] <ubotu> Protocol1: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:45] <rukuartic> _jason: Mmmm... nope.
[02:45] <benji> anyone got a copy of the super grub disk (ISO)???...somone has to have it
[02:45] <Protocol1> !date
[02:45] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Protocol1
[02:45] <_jason> rukuartic: nope to both?
[02:45] <tritium> never heard of it, benji
[02:45] <V4Vendetta> can anyone tell me why no matter what color i select in gimp it always comes out grey ?
[02:45] <whiter> ok now
[02:45] <whiter> anyone know how to get my trash applet back on the desktop?
[02:45] <themachine> I cant figure out why I can't install grub nor Lilo to my MBR. any idea why?
[02:45] <intelikey> Frogzoo indeed.   could it be that what ever makes that file is not in the server install ?
[02:45] <cafuego> Protocol1: Windows is set to the local timezone, Ubuntu is set to UTC.
[02:45] <Frogzoo> benji: super grub disk? wtf?  do you mean RIP (which has grub?)
[02:46] <themachine> the BIOS MBR
[02:46] <rukuartic> _jason: Yep
[02:46] <V4Vendetta> how do i stop gimp from opening something greyscale ????/
[02:46] <|mp|> how can you chck which bios version you are using from within ubuntu?
[02:46] <katarot> okay please help me  i have connected my laptop directly to my modem and yet still no internet
[02:47] <intelikey> and here is a bug. (imo)   top will run for user but not for root.  it will run for sudo but not for root.  if that is tno a bug in top i'll eat your hat.
[02:47] <tritium> katarot: DSL modem?  Actiontec from Qwest?
[02:47] <rukuartic> katarot: Is it a winmodem?
[02:47] <Frogzoo> intelikey: uname is always part of the base install for any nix
[02:47] <_jason> rukuartic: there is an option somewhere for the modifier key, one sec
[02:47] <wastrel> ubuntu
[02:47] <katarot> emm i got it with broadband
[02:47] <intelikey> Frogzoo is that what makes /var/run/utmp ?
[02:47] <Frogzoo> intelikey: either that, or it should get created automatically on a login, by getty or whatever
[02:47] <benji> Frogzoo the wiki page i am l;ooking at talks of an unofficial Linix super grub disk that will recover ubuntu after installing windows
[02:48] <khafra> cafuego: Nothing I could decipher, but the acpi temperature reporter and xmbmon seem to work ok, unlike lm-sensors--is there any drawback to just using those?
[02:48] <katarot> but i know it is there because when i go to networks i see eth1
[02:48] <benji> can RIP do that?
[02:48] <Protocol1> cafuego, do you know how I can go about fixing this
[02:48] <rukuartic> _jason: Oh the price I pay for looking cool...
[02:48] <rukuartic> _jason: Eating up memory/CPU...
[02:48] <lsald> anyone hear of progress with lightscribe compatibility?
[02:48] <_jason> rukuartic: system > prefs > window prefs, bottom choice
[02:48] <intelikey> i think both of those will write to it but both depend on it already being there Frogzoo
[02:48] <tritium> katarot: is it an Actiontec or not?  Who is your broadband provider?  Qwest?
[02:48] <rukuartic> _jason: XFCE... :P
[02:48] <katarot> telewest
[02:49] <_jason> rukuartic: hrmm devilspie worked on xfce?
[02:49] <katarot> i dont think it is an actiontec
[02:49] <Frogzoo> benji: in fact - any disk with grub on it allow you (if you know how) to boot ubuntu & then you just run install-grub /dev/hdx
[02:49] <intelikey> Frogzoo isn't there a command to see what package created a file ?
[02:49] <_jason> does xfce use metacity?
[02:49] <rukuartic> _jason: Yep... its a gnome program I'm runnin' it on XD
[02:49] <katarot> how can i tell
[02:49] <rukuartic> _jason: IDK...
[02:49] <Frogzoo> intelikey: apt-file - which seems to be broken for me atm
[02:49] <cafuego> Protocol1: Set Ubuntu to set the system clock to local time; not UTC. There's a config file for that soemwhere under /etc I think.
[02:49] <intelikey> me check
[02:49] <tritium> katarot: the reason I ask is that its DHCP server doesn't properly set dns servers, so you have to prepend or supersede them in the dhcp client config files
[02:49] <_jason> rukuartic: I guess that's why... you are going to have to ask the xfce'ers in the crowd about moving windows
[02:50] <rukuartic> _jason: thanks :)
[02:50] <benji> frogzoo: i tried that but it gave keeps telling me there is no corasponding bios drive
[02:50] <intelikey> installing apt-file now.
[02:50] <khafra> ooh. Except that acpi polling's disabled.  Still, xmbmon seems to be ok, if a little confused about which temp is which
[02:50] <katarot> tritium: how would i do that
[02:51] <Ads_> is it normal for firefox to eat up my system resources?
[02:51] <khafra> And a little confused about what the actual temperature is. ARGH.
[02:51] <Xenguy> intelikey: apt-file update && apt-file search blah
[02:51] <Xenguy> intelikey: sudo
[02:51] <Frogzoo> benji: what are your /boot /   disks?
[02:52] <intelikey> Xenguy k but sudo is redundant
[02:52] <Xenguy> intelikey: RAID is yer friend (if that is true :-)
[02:52] <tritium> katarot: well, we're not sure that's your problem yet, but you'd edit your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (man dhclient for details)
[02:52] <whiter> /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible is set to true so my trash icon should show up on the desktop right?
[02:52] <whiter> it doesnt tho, anyone know how to get it back on the desktop?
[02:52] <nickrud> Ads_: yes, it can be a resource hog, depending on what pages you have open
[02:52] <Ads_> nickrud: is there a way around it? cos it totally slows down my keyboard input and mouse too
[02:53] <benji> /dev/sda2 is the installation (i think) and sda1 is the boot (agin i think) but have tried hda0/1/2/3 and sda0/1/2
[02:53] <nickrud> Ads_: I never had it get that bad
[02:53] <Protocol1> where the configuration file to adjust my time?
[02:53] <Ads_> nickrud: i get it really bad :( it slows down my whole system man
[02:53] <katarot> tritium: i set it up in network so does that not mean that i should work
[02:53] <intelikey> raid ?
[02:53] <nickrud> Protocol1: right click the clock in the top right, select adjust
[02:54] <tritium> katarot: you can setup a network, and still not have DNS configured properly
[02:54] <wastrel> Protocol1:  man date
[02:54] <katarot> ohhh ok i will go and boot
[02:54] <intelikey> hehhe Xenguy you are so funny :)   can't raid a single 610m hdd   :)
[02:54] <katarot> up ubuntu
[02:55] <katarot> tritium: how do i know what to change
[02:55] <Ads_> whats the minimum sys reqs for ubuntu anyone?
[02:55] <_jason> Ads_: 128mb ram and 1.8gb of hard drive space according to the install cd's sleeve
[02:55] <SoulPropagation> And about a PIII-500
[02:56] <zF> How do I remove the Harddrive Volume from my desktop
[02:56] <tritium> katarot: we need to figure out if DNS is the problem before you try to change anything
[02:56] <Ads_> _jason: then that means there is something horribly wrong with my installation of ubuntu dammit!!!
[02:56] <cafuego> Ads_: For the server, P90 wth 64Mb and up, I'd hazard.
[02:56] <_jason> Ads_: ?
[02:56] <Ads_> _jason: almost anything i do hogs the cpu and ram
[02:56] <_jason> Ads_: what are your specs?
[02:56] <SoulPropagation> A PII-400 128mb runs Server like magic
[02:56] <intelikey> Ads_ i installed it here on 250m hdd  32m ram  p1mmx 100mhz    i don't know the minimum.
[02:56] <cafuego> Ads_: and what are you running? Gnome?
[02:56] <Frogzoo> intelikey: from man utmp 'Neither of these programs creates the file, so if it is removed, record-keeping is turned off.
[02:57] <Frogzoo> intelikey: so there you go :)
[02:57] <_jason> zF: system tools > configuration editor, apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible, or something similar
[02:57] <Ads_> _jason: i'm running on my laptop of 265mb ram, 2.4ghz centrino, 128mb vram, 80gb hdd
[02:57] <katarot> im sorry i dont get how i would even know if it not correct
[02:57] <nickrud> intelikey you are a masochist
[02:57] <Ads_> cafuego: yes i am running gnome
[02:57] <whiter> my my, anyone know how to get the trash applet on the desktop
[02:57] <_jason> intelikey: how does that run for you?
[02:57] <cafuego> Ads_: Yes, 256Mb ram is not great.
[02:57] <zF> _jason, where is System tools?
[02:57] <_jason> Ads_: try xubuntu
[02:58] <kfirb> for some reason, bchunk, has made 2 small files out of the image cd I have just finished downloading. does this mean the .cue .bin files I dled were fake? maybe I misused bchunk?
[02:58] <FlannelKing> hey, anyone know if the Automatix guy has released the source?
[02:58] <_jason> zF: in applications menu
[02:58] <cafuego> Ads_: Is that vram shared or actual?
[02:58] <Ads_> actual
[02:58] <intelikey> Frogzoo yes.  case solved on that end,  but now the case of "why utmp was missing" is the sluths quarry
[02:58] <_jason> FlannelKing: it's a bash script
[02:58] <Ads_> cafuego: thing is i can run xp pro on the same laptop no slowdowns at all
[02:59] <intelikey> _jason pretty good.   i listen to ogg files chat here do email  serf web.... that's about all i do on this box.
[02:59] <FlannelKing> _jason: so, that's a yes then?  heh.  Was just wondering why he uses root account instead of sudo.
[02:59] <devians> i seem to have a rather serious problem
[02:59] <SoulPropagation> how do you stop the shift-bksp zap?
[02:59] <nickrud> Ads_: you may not have dma enabled ; see !dma to check
[02:59] <devians> useradd on this ubuntu server install no longer works
[02:59] <devians> any ideas?
[02:59] <_jason> FlannelKing: I believe the latest versions no longer enable root.  just download the file and open it in a text editor
[02:59] <Ads_> nickrud: i'll check
[03:00] <NickGarvey> devians: how does it fail?
[03:00] <devians> doesnt return an error, but then, doesnt ask for details or password or anything, doesnt create a home dir etc etc
[03:00] <Xenguy> devians: yeah, and what have you been changing lately ?  :-)
[03:00] <intelikey> ads_ _jason one thing i might point out i do disable all the automatic crap.  no udev no hotplug.... and so forth.
[03:00] <Ads_> nickrud: dma is enabled
[03:00] <devians> and i havent changed a thing
[03:00] <NickGarvey> devians: the user is made, use usermod to change properties
[03:00] <NickGarvey> devians: same thing happens with me and I don't know why
[03:00] <devians> grrr
[03:01] <intelikey> cafuego i'd say no.
[03:01] <NickGarvey> never bothered looking into it though
[03:01] <Ads_> intelikey: care to mention the unucesssary crap so i may kill it?
[03:01] <devians> its already a 10min process to setup a user, gotta be a way to fix it
[03:01] <Azzkicker> HOW TO: Boot Windows XP on Intel Based Mac's *Instructions Inside*
[03:01] <Azzkicker> HOW TO: http://www.steaknbj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83
[03:01] <Xenguy> devians: I believe you, but sure sounds like something's changed :-)
[03:01] <katarot> tritium: how would i know if dns  is the problem
[03:01] <NickGarvey> devians: when you make the user type "useradd -d /home/user -s /bin/bash username
[03:01] <NickGarvey> thats all I do
[03:01] <FlannelKing> _jason: ah, so, are there any other 'bad things' about automatix?
[03:01] <nickrud> devians: try adduser
[03:02] <_jason> FlannelKing: nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[03:02] <cafuego> SPAM: vsiti http://some.url for info unrelated to this channel
[03:02] <Toma-> FlannelKing: you dont learn anything from it.
[03:02] <tritium> katarot: can you please describe the problem in more detail?
[03:02] <intelikey> Ads_ the list is in /etc/init.d/   but you need to know what part of that is essential for your system.    a good recovery disk is sujested.
[03:02] <zF> _jason, I can't find it anywhere.
[03:03] <devians> thanks nickrud
[03:03] <shiv-gnome> My GAIM minimize to system tray does not work. I have the plugin enabled. What am I doing wrong?
[03:03] <Ads_> intelikey: thanks i will give it a check
[03:03] <_jason> zF: what version of ubuntu?
[03:03] <NickGarvey> nickrud: you are a genius
[03:03] <zF> Dapper
[03:03] <NickGarvey> :-P
[03:03] <katarot> well i plug my laptop into my modem and the i go to system > administation > networks
[03:03] <zF> I want to keep it mounted I just don't want that desktop icon.
[03:03] <_jason> zF: run gconf-editor from a terminal, they removed the menu item in dapper iirc
[03:03] <devians> next question. when i make a user account, i usually have to make a heap of dirs in their home directory and do some mount --binding. is there a way to setup different user making scripts to automate it?
[03:03] <katarot> and then i see the new eth1 and i go and set my static  ip which i got from windows ipconfig
[03:04] <zF> Perfect, _jason. I got it, thanks.
[03:04] <wastrel> devians:  anything you put in /etc/skel  is copied to a new user directory IIRC
[03:05] <FlannelKing> Toma-: oh, I already know how to install most of the stuff, I only use ubuntu as a server anyway.
[03:05] <NickGarvey> I can't seem to stop ubuntu from booting into a GUI
[03:05] <katarot> and then go on and set the eth1 as my default gateway device and when i click on fire fox i type in www.google.com it says it doesent exist
[03:05] <Toma-> ok
[03:05] <johhny_b> anyone here new to linux?
[03:05] <Kanalal> me
[03:05] <johhny_b> Kanalal: you are?
[03:05] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  sudo apt-get remove gdm (or other display manager?)
[03:05] <johhny_b> Kanalal: did you find it easy?
[03:05] <Kanalal> hmmn
[03:05] <Kanalal> some of it
[03:05] <NickGarvey> wastrel: I still want it because I plan to forward X11 over ssh onto my windows machine
[03:06] <devians> wastrel, i have multiple types of accounts, i was thinking more of a script(s) that would take a username and password as an argument?
[03:06] <katarot> so i try downloading a different brower and it says unable to connect to archives.ubuntu
[03:06] <johhny_b> Kanalal: how long have you been using linux?
[03:06] <Kanalal> johhny_b: i started using a month or so ago
[03:06] <katarot> tritium: that is exactly what i do
[03:06] <htrp> how am i gon be able to download 'multiverse' packages?
[03:06] <htrp> should i edit source.list?
[03:06] <tritium> katarot: doesn't your DSL model have a dhcp server?
[03:07] <wastrel> devians:  not that i know of, might have to roll your own.
[03:07] <ORTALDJ> /server vse.no.ip.info
[03:07] <johhny_b> Kanalal: are you new to computors or have you used them much before?
[03:07] <devians> ack, another thing to learn :P
[03:07] <nickrud> !tell htrp about sources
[03:07] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  so you don't want X starting when you boot but you want it running at all other times?
[03:07] <katarot> im not sure will i try and connect using the dhcp
[03:07] <momojones> why do embedded videos in firefox not play embedded but open up in a new window
[03:07] <johhny_b> Kanalal: cos i my windows box is filled with virusses and stuff like that
[03:07] <nickrud> htrp: that msg from ubotu has some breezy sources
[03:07] <Kanalal> johhny_b: im a student, im doing programming at uni, ive used computers for a while now, im just new to linux
[03:07] <belea> how can i know whene my disto was installed..
[03:07] <belea> with which command ?
[03:07] <belea> tx
[03:07] <johhny_b> oh ok
[03:07] <Frogzoo> so apt-file doesn't work for me anymore (breezy) - eg 'apt-file list '/usr/bin/ls'   returns nothing
[03:07] <NickGarvey> wastrel: yes, when I boot I want it to be text mode, but I want to be able to start X onto another display
[03:08] <johhny_b> i am looking for someone who hasent used computors that much
[03:08] <Kanalal> ah not me then
[03:08] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  you can use update-rc.d to tell gdm not to start on boot... then start it manually whenever
[03:08] <johhny_b> :)
[03:08] <katarot> tritium: i will go and boot up ubuntu and try it with dhcp
[03:08] <johhny_b> Kanalal: are the network things hard to setup?
[03:08] <NickGarvey> alright, I changed inittab to runtime 3 but the GUI still goes
[03:09] <pww> I am debugging a problem synching a PalmV over a serial port. No messages in syslog, etc.
[03:09] <tritium> NickGarvey: wastel gave you sage advice.  Please follow it.  There are details in the debian reference on how to do that, if you care to read it
[03:09] <kethinov> i just upgraded to dapper and the menu editor doesn't appear to be capable of performing any menu editing anymore... what's going on?
[03:09] <tritium> ok, katarot
[03:09] <bimberi> devians: this looks promising, from 'man adduser' - "If the file /usr/local/sbin/adduser.local exists, it will be executed after the user account has been set up in order to do any local setup"
[03:09] <katarot> brb
[03:09] <pww> Can anyone suggest debugging/monitoring/logging tools that might help me out?
[03:09] <Kanalal> johhny_b: well i had to remove the restricted modules to update my graphics driver, and that buggered up the wireless, but i got it fixed pretty quick
[03:09] <belea> wastrel,  i know u are a smart guy..  can u tell me how can i know..  when my distro was installed ?
[03:09] <Ads_> intelikey: thanks a lot man
[03:09] <_jason> Frogzoo: apt-file search filename, apt-file list packagename
[03:09] <nalioth> kethinov: #ubuntu+1 is for dapper help and discussion
[03:09] <belea> like in windows..  systeminfo..   i see the date..  when it was installed ?
[03:10] <intelikey> Ads_ my list of startup 'init' links   enjoy  :)
[03:10] <belea> on ubuntu ?
[03:10] <wastrel> belea:  look in /var/log/install maybe ?
[03:10] <belea> not a simply command ?
[03:10] <johhny_b> Kanalal: what about firewalls and such are they much harder then windows?
[03:10] <johhny_b> imo they where a problem for me in windows
[03:11] <Kanalal> no linux is much safer anyway
[03:11] <johhny_b> or do you even need a firewall in linux?
[03:11] <Kanalal> firewalls are pretty easy to set up
[03:11] <johhny_b> ok
[03:11] <Kanalal> yeah id say so
[03:11] <pww> johhny_b A FW is always a good idea, even with Linux
[03:11] <johhny_b> pww: ok
[03:11] <wastrel> belea:  there's no command that does that as far as i know.  ls -l /var/log/installer/  may give you an idea- those files should have been created during install and not changed since
[03:11] <glm2k> you need a firewall on anything that's connected to the world wide wait
[03:11] <volcom_b0i> uninstall wget, I had a hacker use apache php support to try and wget a file and to chmod it with apache :).
[03:11] <belea> wastrel thx
[03:12] <Kanalal> id say virus checkers are optional if you arent running a server or anything, but make sure you have a firewall
[03:12] <intelikey> Ads_ i should have mentioned also that dialup is the only network on this box.  that helps the boot time considerably.  and improves performance, though less noticably.
[03:12] <tritium> firewall _if_ you have ports open
[03:12] <Ads_> intelikey: thanks
[03:12] <nalioth> firewalls are unnecessaary in a default ubuntu install
[03:13] <tritium> yes ^^^
[03:13] <kditty> can someone help me with a windows to linux networking question? im trying to shar a folder from my windows xp machine, to my linux pc. i set the folder as shared on XP and then i followed this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently under share unprotected folders, but nothing shows up in my mounted /share folder
[03:13] <Kanalal> yeah, but who keeps the default congig?
[03:13] <zF> Kanalal, what about a firewall on the router?
[03:13] <Kanalal> *config
[03:13] <tritium> Kanalal: many users
[03:13] <pww> zF That's what I have, works great. FW on router means having many fewer worries....
[03:14] <Kanalal> zF yeah i have a hardware firewall
[03:14] <zF> If I had an httpd, sshd and an ircd running on a machine connected to a wireless router that has a software firewall, should I also run firestarter?
[03:14] <nalioth> zF: firestarter IS a software firewall
[03:14] <Frogzoo> _jason: apt-file search /usr/bin/ls  returns nothing, same for apt-file list dpkg - strace shows missing directory /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.3 - is this needed?
[03:14] <zF> nalioth, yes.
[03:14] <FlannelKing> _jason: thanks for the link on the comparison, was wondering about doing something exactly like EasyUbuntu.
[03:14] <pww> zF wireless router? Have you correctly hid SSID and correctly configured WAP?
[03:14] <belea> hub:~# ls -l /var/log/installer
[03:14] <belea> ls: /var/log/installer: No such file or directory
[03:15] <belea> no what ?
[03:15] <belea> *now
[03:15] <belea> :(
[03:15] <dunefan> evening!
[03:15] <intelikey> Kanalal only the |337 *nix geeks change their configs, haven't you noticed :  :)
[03:15] <tritium> zF: I'd be more concerned with your wireless network being compromised than your ubuntu box
[03:15] <zF> pww, it's WPA'd with a password that would take 50 years to brute force.
[03:15] <Kanalal> intelikey: XD
[03:16] <tritium> zF: unfortunately, that's not the case
[03:16] <pww> zF Good. A lot of people forgot that part. SSH still a good idea, WAP is slightly busted
[03:16] <zF> Yeah
[03:16] <zF> It's more of just a project server that I keep around for testing
[03:16] <NickGarvey> WEP anyone can crack
[03:16] <zF> Through up a shoutcast server for friends, httpd for xfers, ect.
[03:16] <Amaranth> NickGarvey: not true
[03:16] <_jason> Frogzoo: strange... I don't know enough about it to help you.  But I don't have that file myself and my apt-file works
[03:16] <pww> Right WEP, not WAP. Ooops. Had my head somewhere else....
[03:16] <dunefan> I would like to install kde in Ubuntu....I type sudo apt-get install kde-desktop and I get the following message..."couldn't find package kde-desktop"...any suggestions???
[03:17] <Kanalal> NickGarvey: where i live most people cant spell WEP let alone crack it, so i think im safe
[03:17] <Amaranth> NickGarvey: with new non-crappy hardware WEP is secure
[03:17] <nalioth> dunefan: it's "kubuntu-desktop"
[03:17] <Quinn_Storm> dunefan: yeah its kubuntu-desktop
[03:17] <dunefan> thanks!!!!
[03:17] <Amaranth> NickGarvey: because they don't give you as many weak packets
[03:18] <Trent> What is a very good, easy to use, ftp client.  (Drag and drop would be appreciated)
[03:18] <pww> Amaranth Don't know about that, WEP has fundamental weaknesses AFAICR
[03:18] <Trent> ?
[03:18] <Amaranth> pww: nope
[03:18] <NickGarvey> Amaranth: yes, but over time some is too many, especially if you are in a business with a lot of people using wireless
[03:18] <katarot> it worked
[03:18] <intelikey> gftp Trent   but i like ncftp.
[03:19] <tritium> katarot: :)
[03:19] <NickGarvey> don't get me wrong, I use WEP because thats why I need for my nintendo DS, but I just know it isn't the strongest thing around
[03:19] <katarot> yeah im on xchat lol thanks
[03:19] <Amaranth> NickGarvey: i can't remember which conference, but someone was scanning for almost the entire conference (network was WEP) and got about 11 weak packets
[03:19] <katarot> tritium thank you so much
[03:19] <tritium> of course, katarot
[03:19] <Amaranth> NickGarvey: that's a huge number of geeks using their laptops the whole time for a couple days
[03:19] <NickGarvey> how many do you need to crack it? I have never tried
[03:19] <Amaranth> at least 20 with kismac
[03:20] <Amaranth> but 20 won't get you far
[03:20] <wastrel> airsnort manual has a good rundown on cracking wep
[03:20] <pww> Amaranth Read http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html, there are fundamental flaws due to use of stream cipher. None of these rely on weak keys
[03:20] <Amaranth> unless you're lucky
[03:21] <pww> Amaranth See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_cipher_attack
[03:21] <wastrel> http://airsnort.shmoo.com/
[03:22] <Amaranth> pww: i know, it's because with a 24-bit IV you're eventually going to get repeats
[03:22] <Amaranth> pww: apparently they found a way to fix this (larger IV?)
[03:22] <wastrel> i have an 8 bit key heh
[03:22] <wastrel> or something :] 
[03:22] <volcom_b0i> Mac filtering can help.  I don't broadcast either.
[03:23] <pww> Amaranth WPA fixes the problem by "changing the "master" key frequently" (quote from TFA on wikipedia)
[03:23] <Amaranth> pww: meh
[03:23] <intelikey> brb
[03:23] <wastrel> 40 bit, :] 
[03:24] <tritium> volcom_b0i: no, your Mac ID can be discovered with packet sniffing
[03:24] <volcom_b0i> tritium: bummer
[03:24] <gimmulf_> Hi, everytime i reboot i need to run "sudo dhclient" to get my dhcp internet connection running, this was after i started to mess with ppoe which i never got to work so now i always need to run dhclient to get it working, it work perfectly before i started to mess with ppoe, how do i get it back so dhcp loads during boot?
[03:24] <tritium> Don't rely on mac filtering
[03:24] <pww> Amaranth I should eat my own dogfood and buy a WPA/WPA2 wireless router....
[03:24] <Amaranth> pww: 802.11i?
[03:25] <Frogzoo> gimmulf_: you need to get your /etc/network/interfaces right
[03:25] <benji> frogzoo: any ideas
[03:25] <pww> Amaranth Well, something newer than the 3+ year-old .11b box I have (and 4+ year old .11b ASUS card)
[03:26] <Amaranth> pww: 802.11i is 802.11g with WPA2 mandated, appearently
[03:26] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  i was playing with that when i wanted to use dhcp after the ppoe try and this is how it looks like now: http://pastebin.com/606714
[03:26] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  i removed the ppoe stuff from there and added the stuff there is now
[03:26] <benji> how do you  mount the root (/) partition of ubuntu from ubuntu live?
[03:27] <pww> Amaranth That looks right. Of course, I don't even have .11g right now... ...I'm cheap
[03:27] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  and i took my my /network/interfaces stuff from an example i found
[03:27] <shiv-gnome> My GAIM minimize to system tray does not work. I have the plugin enabled. What am I doing wrong?
[03:27] <cpitzak> what is the difference between breezy and drapper
[03:28] <lsald> cpitzak, just about every package
[03:28] <lsald> cpitzak, and the new installer
[03:28] <techrush> what plugin is it that enables that shiv-gnome i need that
[03:28] <Ads_> anyone mind telling me why ubuntu shuts down my system instead when i choose to "reboot"? not all the time but mostly
[03:28] <pww> cpitzak 6 months of work, a lot of polish, more things that just work
[03:29] <Paper183> Ads_: probably hardware problem
[03:29] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  doesnt it look correct?
[03:29] <Paper183> Ads_: not sure tho
[03:29] <engla> Ads_: is it a laptop?
[03:29] <Ads_> engla: yes
[03:29] <shiv-gnome> techrush: its the system tray icon plugin, mine is enabled still not working
[03:29] <techrush> hmm
[03:29] <techrush> i dont see it in synaptic whats the package name exactly im sorry
[03:30] <Amaranth> ok, wireless communication is way too complex for me
[03:30] <Amaranth> i think 802.11n is going to jump channels somewhat randomly
[03:31] <julio> hy
[03:31] <pww> Amaranth You should look up Aloha-net: TCP/IP over HAM radio, many moons ago....
[03:31] <julio> im new on ubuntu
[03:31] <Amaranth> pww: heard of it
[03:31] <Amaranth> pww: it's unidirectional
[03:31] <julio> and i cant play an mp3
[03:31] <NickGarvey> !mp3
[03:31] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:31] <pww> Amaranth Low bit rates, latency problems, etc., but it worked. There are geeks, then there are *geeks*.
[03:32] <julio> ok ill read it , thanks
[03:32] <Amaranth> techrush: never heard of it
[03:32] <NickGarvey> no problem
[03:32] <Frogzoo> gimmulf_: u do have /usr/local/sbin/map-scheme ?
[03:32] <Amaranth> techrush: and google hasn't either
[03:32] <techrush> there has to be a way though
[03:32] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  no :)
[03:33] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  should i remove thoose 4 lines?
[03:33] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  i dont think i have eth1 either
[03:33] <gimmulf_> just eth0
[03:33] <tritium> !tell gimmulf_ about enter
[03:33] <Amaranth> techrush: you have to explain what it is
[03:33] <welkiner> Trying to install Flight 5 to hd, but Grub install fails every time, help
[03:33] <Amaranth> techrush: it must have another name
[03:33] <gimmulf_> tritium:  sorry :)
[03:34] <Frogzoo> gimmulf_: do you use the mapping at all? or you just want eth0 to dhcp at boot & that's it ?
[03:34] <tritium> no worries, gimmulf_ :)
[03:34] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  thats it
[03:34] <Amaranth> techrush: oh, shiv-gnome is someone's name :P
[03:34] <gimmulf_> no mapping (sorry for enter)
[03:34] <nidah> hi
[03:35] <nidah> need some info on xchat prog
[03:35] <chromakode> nidah: what info?
[03:35] <pww> nidah, so far so good, you're chatting... ...what do you need to know?
[03:35] <Amaranth> techrush: the minimize-to-tray gaim extension should come with gaim
[03:35] <techrush> yes it does come with gaim but gaim still wont minimize to tray
[03:36] <techrush> :/
[03:36] <techrush> maybe i dont have a "tray"
[03:36] <nidah> ok the previous verion had open dialogue and open direct chat auto option which this one doesnt
[03:36] <chromakode> nidah: are we talking xchat-gnome?
[03:36] <wastrel> you have to add a tray to the gnome panel maybe
[03:36] <cpitzak> is drapper the lastest beta's etc... and brizzy is the stable ?
[03:36] <Frogzoo> gimmulf_: replace with this: http://pastebin.com/606723   & reboot
[03:36] <nidah> im using gnome ubuntu i think
[03:36] <wastrel> the tray is just another panel applet
[03:36] <welkiner> Has anyone installed Dapper live-cd Flight 5 to hd?
[03:36] <gimmulf_> thanks Frogzoo
[03:36] <wastrel> cpitzak:  yes
[03:36] <DemonHeadx> Hello
[03:37] <julio> is sudo just for ubunto or for all distribution?
[03:37] <Paper183> Question, is there any application on linux that runs mirc scripts ? mirc has some problems in wine...
[03:37] <DemonHeadx> I need some help, i want to test out ubuntu on my Mac, but when i use the Live cd, it doesn't start.
[03:37] <tritium> welkiner: yes.  Please ask dapper questions in #ubuntu+1
[03:37] <pww> nidah I tried xchat-gnome, found it hard to configure, hard to get started. xchat seems friendlier
[03:37] <Amaranth> techrush: gnome has a tray
[03:37] <wastrel> julio:  most distros should have sudo available
[03:37] <nidah> the q is re this new xchat versio which doesnt have some of the stuff old versio did
[03:37] <chromakode> nidah: I'm not sure I remember what the direct chat did... was it p2p? I think gnome-xchat tones lots of the options down... you might want to use regular xchat then
[03:37] <Amaranth> techrush: it's up by the clock
[03:37] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  allow-hotplug eth1  <-- should i really have that eth1 stuff? i think i just have eth0
[03:37] <welkiner> ok
[03:37] <pww> julio sudo runs under many Linuxen and Unixen
[03:37] <nidah> using xchat2.6.0
[03:38] <Frogzoo> gimmulf_: you might need it later - but you can remove it
[03:38] <gimmulf_> Frogzoo:  whats it for?
[03:38] <gimmulf_> probing for another network card?
[03:38] <cpitzak> who runs drapper and likes it?
[03:38] <julio> thanks
[03:38] <Frogzoo> gimmulf_: yep, via usb
[03:38] <_jason> !dapper
[03:38] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[03:38] <gimmulf_> oki thanks
[03:38] <pww> cpitzak Me! Been running dapper since flight2
[03:38] <Frogzoo> any ideas for this one?: apt-file --verbose search ls
[03:39] <Frogzoo> D: got 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted': Bad file descriptor
[03:39] <nidah> the thing is xchat 2.6 doesnt have some of the stuff previous xchat version had
[03:39] <DemonHeadx> Can anyone help me out? I have 3 cds of ubuntu. the pc version the mac version and the 64 version. I insert the mac live CD on my Mac, and i shutdown and turn it on. but it doesn't start
[03:39] <DemonHeadx> is there something i do?
[03:39] <cuen> this is my first time in this chatroom......i was wondering if anyone can help me setup a wpa connection with dapper flight 5
[03:39] <DogWater> Anyone ever got X working on a Dell Inspiron 6400 /w Intel i945g?
[03:39] <tritium> DemonHeadx: do you hold down the "c" key while booting?
[03:39] <chromakode> nidah: I'm not sure. You can always revert if you like.
[03:39] <DemonHeadx> No i don't press anything
[03:39] <Frogzoo> cuen: for dapper -> #ubuntu+1
[03:39] <bimberi> !wpa
[03:39] <ubotu> wpa is, like, enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[03:39] <nidah> how can i revert?
[03:39] <DemonHeadx> but is that all i need to do to start the live cd?
[03:40] <NickGarvey> DemonHeadx: assuming holding down c boots from the CD, yes
[03:40] <chromakode> nidah: well hang on one second, are there two xchat entries in your Internet menu?
[03:40] <DemonHeadx> Oh, i never knew that.
[03:40] <DemonHeadx> Well i'll be back in about 5 mins, see if that works =D Thanks for the help really apriciate it.
[03:40] <nidah> eh no
[03:41] <nidah> all i have is Xchat IRC
[03:41] <chromakode> nidah: hmm. ok.
[03:42] <spongebob> hi.  automatix won't download, says connection refused when I type the first command, wget
[03:42] <nidah> :(
[03:42] <wastrel> !automatix
[03:42] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:42] <chromakode> nidah: I haven't messed   with Xchat for a while, sorry.
[03:42] <wastrel> !tell spongebob about easyubuntu
[03:42] <nidah> i prefered the older xchat ersion to this one
[03:43] <spongebob> thanks i'll try that :)
[03:43] <chromakode> nidah: well, I'm surprised they would just remove options.
[03:43] <nidah> the prob arises in other clients like dalnt it doesnt pen dialgues automatically
[03:43] <nidah> i can remove not revert
[03:44] <chromakode> nidah:  are you comfortable with command line?
[03:44] <nidah> not really but i can follow it i hope
[03:44] <spongebob> epia 800 is slowww, hehehe.  building an NES PC with ubuntu
[03:44] <chromakode> nidah: ok.
[03:45] <phaedral> talk me into going ubuntu instead of debian testing, please,
[03:46] <NsOmNiAc> can anyone point me to a working guide to upgrading Englightenment 16 to 17 under Ubuntu?
[03:46] <silvaran> I don't think e17 is available in the repositories.
[03:46] <phaedral> fer instance, can ubuntu handle partitioning my ntfs harddrive?
[03:46] <keishin> I have yet another total newb problem :(  I somehow managed to break everything that requires sudo/gksudo auth.  And my password is echoed in the terminal now =\
[03:46] <cpitzak> can't i just get the /sources.list of one of you who run drapper and then run an apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:47] <_jason> !upgrade
[03:47] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[03:47] <wastrel> phaedral:  testing breaks, ubuntu stable is fresher but stable
[03:47] <silvaran> cpitzak: replace all instances of "breezy" with "dapper", then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:47] <wastrel> fresher than debian stable
[03:47] <phaedral> wastrel: cool; was talking with Chodder the other day, suggested going straight to dapper
[03:47] <phaedral> is that 5.10?
[03:48] <wastrel> haven't tried dapper, but that will break, it's "testing"  5.10 is breezy/stable
[03:48] <silvaran> Ahhh dist-upgrader, forgot about that.
[03:48] <phaedral> roger
[03:48] <wastrel> phaedral:  dapper's due out in a month or 2
[03:48] <phaedral> april 19, I read somewhere
[03:48] <wastrel> they're thinking of extending that for a few weeks
[03:48] <linuxpoet> Any wireless folks in the house?
[03:48] <phaedral> ah
[03:48] <wastrel> rumor has it :] 
[03:48] <whiter> anyones trash applet mysteriously disappear from their desktop?
[03:48] <tritium> linuxpoet: there are no strings on me :)
[03:48] <linuxpoet> heh
[03:49] <benji> how do you know whast the grub address our your drives is?
[03:49] <linuxpoet> O.k. I have a simple (I think) problem
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> whiter: No, but I've heard of that, and you can get it back.
[03:49] <linuxpoet> My wireless card is detected
[03:49] <linuxpoet> I can see it using iwconfig....
[03:49] <whiter> how tony?
[03:49] <whiter> i tried the configuration editor but it didnt work
[03:49] <linuxpoet> I can ping the ip address of the card itself
[03:49] <linuxpoet> But I can ping any others on the network
[03:49] <wastrel> whiter:  applications > system tools > configuration editor  then  apps > nautilus > desktop   and check the show trash thingy
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> whiter: Right-click > Add to panel > Trash
[03:50] <linuxpoet> Now, I have 4 linux machines
[03:50] <linuxpoet> all wireless
[03:50] <wastrel> or what tonyyarusso said
[03:50] <Zarephath> Anyone installed the vmware server beta under Ubuntu?
[03:50] <linuxpoet> they all work
[03:50] <linuxpoet> except this one
[03:50] <keishin> Anyone have any ideas what I broke?
[03:50] <whiter> tonyyarusso i said desktop
[03:50] <whiter> wastrel i tried that
[03:50] <tritium> !tell linuxpoet about enter
[03:50] <whiter> its still missing
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> whiter: That was for the little panel thing, sorry.  The other thing should work, or you can add it to the panel and drag and drop it to the desktop.
[03:50] <nidah> why doesnt priv dialogue auto open now?
[03:50] <whiter> no, you cant actually
[03:50] <wastrel> whiter:  is it off the edge of the desktop?  try cleaning up the desktop
[03:50] <linuxpoet> So any ideas?
[03:51] <whiter> how would i clean the desktop?
[03:51] <wastrel> right click, clean up desktop
[03:51] <Zarephath> It wants the header files for the kernel to be at /usr/src/linux/include...I thought I could make a symbolic link to the header files and trick it into thinking they were where it is looking..no joy
[03:51] <phaedral> I'm looking to install on a laptop, need to dual boot, would like an installer that handles repartioning NTFS in place
[03:51] <Zarephath> I have installed them!
[03:51] <wastrel> er, "clean up by name" in my menu
[03:51] <eirejah> hello
[03:51] <whiter> hehe
[03:51] <whiter> there it goes
[03:51] <wastrel> kuhl
[03:51] <leroy> anyone willing to help out...situation is lilo I think is pointing to a the wrong area on my MBR for NTLDR, because it is showing "NTLDR Missing" when I try to boot the win OS partition.
[03:52] <Zarephath> leror: What partition is windows on?
[03:52] <leroy> c://
[03:52] <keishin> I have yet another total newb problem :(  I somehow managed to break everything that requires sudo/gksudo auth.  And my password is echoed in the terminal now =\
[03:52] <eirejah> are there any major security bugs or patches/updates needed for Ubuntu 5.10?
[03:52] <leroy> i added the ubunut partition
[03:52] <leroy> after on D;//
[03:52] <wastrel> wow
[03:52] <Zarephath> leroy: you have /dev/hda...so I presume the partition resides at /dev/hda1?
[03:52] <wastrel> nice going keishin :]   what did you do?
[03:53] <leroy> yes
[03:53] <keishin> I really don't know.
[03:53] <keishin> It was working fine to the best of my recollection last night.
[03:53] <_jason> keishin: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?
[03:53] <wastrel> password echoing is a terminal problem.
[03:53] <keishin> Hrm... that works normally.
[03:53] <nidah> anyway of reverting xchat to previous version?
[03:53] <_jason> keishin: hrmm
[03:54] <_jason> keishin: what doesn't work specifically?
[03:54] <nidah> anyway of reverting xchat to previous version?
[03:54] <keishin> uhhh... wtf >_<
[03:54] <wastrel> nidah:  are you using xchat or gnome-xchat ?
[03:54] <NickGarvey> what should the permissions for .Xauthority be?
[03:54] <keishin> Now, apparently, nothing.
[03:54] <nidah> xchat
[03:54] <_jason> keishin: that'll be 20 bucks
[03:54] <keishin> That's damn bizarre.  I had rebooted several times and played around with it...
[03:54] <chromakode> nidah:  I contacted you, but you did not respond.
[03:54] <eirejah> anyone?
[03:54] <keishin> And after doing that echo line, I type the exact same thing... and it works normally
[03:55] <eirejah> are there any major security bugs or patches/updates needed for Ubuntu 5.10?
[03:55] <_jason> keishin: sounds very strange...
[03:55] <keishin> Thanks, I think =P
[03:55] <cpitzak> when i change everything from breezy to drapper and do apt-get update .,.... i get errors
[03:55] <wastrel> nidah:  and you're sure it's not xchat-gnome you want?    i've been using xchat for years and don't recall major changes between versions.
[03:55] <keishin> Sounds like I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm sure... but... yeah.
[03:55] <nidah> i tried to chro
[03:55] <chromakode> ah.
[03:55] <_jason> eirejah: enable security repositories and update&&upgrade
[03:55] <wastrel> nidah:  but if you really want to i suggest installing a tarball to /usr/local  of the version you like and use that instead
[03:55] <nidah> priv chat dont auto ope and when i open a dialogue u didnt get my msgs
[03:56] <Zarephath> cpitzak: Make sure you have your sources.list setup wherever is has universe to put multiverse to the right...then apt-get update
[03:56] <pww> eirejah There have been security announcements for some apps. If you have security updates in your sources list and you run updates often, you should have them
[03:56] <Zarephath> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:56] <chromakode> nidah: have you checked the preferences?
[03:56] <whiter> gnomad2 needs to be started with root privlidges in order to access my mp3 player on the usb bus, how can i make it automatically start in root mode?
[03:56] <whiter> ...without having to do sudu
[03:56] <whiter> sudo*
[03:56] <Zarephath> cpitzak: It is dapper just in case that wasn't a typo
[03:56] <nidah> check waht in prefs?
[03:57] <chromakode> nidah: the dialogue behavior.
[03:57] <linuxcrazy> I'm back!
[03:57] <whiter> Could not open jukebox:
[03:57] <whiter> usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted
[03:57] <whiter> is what i get when not root
[03:57] <nidah> no prefs for that
[03:57] <chromakode> ok.
[03:57] <linuxcrazy> can someone tell me how to install libdvdcss?
[03:57] <chromakode> nidah: if you wish to revert, old debs may be found in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:58] <chromakode> see if the old xchat is in there.
[03:58] <_jason> linuxcrazy: I think I have told you a few times about seveas.  Did you have problems with it?
[03:58] <benji> how do you know what the grub address our your drives are?
[03:58] <Zarephath> linuxcrazy: goto https://wiki.ubuntu.com and search restricted formats it has it on part of the process
[03:58] <linuxcrazy> yes, i add the repo but it won't take it.
[03:58] <_jason> linuxcrazy: what do you mean by ``won't take it''.  put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:59] <Zarephath> benji: hd0 it /dev/hda hd1 would be /dev/hdb etc...the second value seperated by comma is the partition number
[04:00] <cpitzak> failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/drapper/main/........... 404 not found
[04:00] <Suture> When I "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for a breezy to dapper upgrade it gives me "dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.textutils.1.gz' with different file `/usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz', not allowed" how can I fix that?
[04:00] <cpitzak> couldn't stat source packages list ....
[04:00] <Zarephath> cpitzak: You must be dyslexic...it isn't drapper.. it is DAPPER get it?
[04:00] <bimberi> cpitzak: i spy a typo "drapper" (remove the r)
[04:00] <nidah> found archive how do i revert to it?
[04:00] <cpitzak> lol
[04:01] <cpitzak> typo sorry
[04:01] <cpitzak> thanks for the msgs
[04:01] <chromakode> nidah: if doubleclick doesn't work, try a "sudo dpkg -i packagename" on the terminal.
[04:01] <cpitzak> someone said to change all universe to multiverse... is that right?
[04:01] <linuxcrazy> why won't you guys tell me how to add this repo http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/
[04:01] <chromakode> javascript:steps.go2('step3content');
[04:01] <Zarephath> cpitzak: that was me and that WAS NOT WHAT I TYPED
[04:01] <linuxcrazy> that's all I need to know
[04:01] <chromakode> erm.
[04:02] <chromakode> that was odd, sorry.
[04:02] <NickGarvey> !tell linuxcrazy about patience
[04:02] <chromakode> xchat should not respond to dnd :/
[04:02] <Zarephath> I said any line that has universe to type multiverse next to it
[04:02] <linuxcrazy> can't someone just tell me?
[04:02] <nm> linuxcrazy: why? just look it up
[04:02] <_jason> linuxcrazy: the wiki tells you I think?
[04:02] <linuxcrazy> multiverse how do I do that?
[04:02] <Zarephath> linuxcrazy: If you don't want to follow what folks suggest you do...you need to run windows
[04:02] <tritium> !tell linuxcrazy about repos
[04:03] <linuxcrazy> How do i type multiverse?
[04:03] <_jason> linuxcrazy: m-u-l-t-i-v-e-r-s-e
[04:03] <_jason> linuxcrazy: what do you mean?
[04:03] <Zarephath> linuxcrazy: Just look at the message ubotu is telling you..it will become apparent after you read a bit
[04:04] <linuxcrazy> I can't type multiverse beside universe.
[04:04] <NickGarvey> says who
[04:04] <tritium> linuxcrazy: in an editor you can
[04:04] <benji> zarephath thnks but what aboit SATA drives?
[04:04] <linuxcrazy> how do i do that
[04:04] <_jason> linuxcrazy: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:04] <tritium> linuxcrazy: did you read the URL I had ubotu send you?
[04:04] <Whatsisname> lol
[04:04] <Suture> When I "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for a breezy to dapper upgrade it gives me "dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.textutils.1.gz' with different file `/usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz', not allowed" how can I fix that?
[04:04] <phantasmoholic> yaay
[04:04] <nidah> no luck archive has 2.6 version same one
[04:04] <phantasmoholic> i got dual monitors working
[04:04] <Zarephath> benji: Not sure on that one since I don't have SATA..but I wold be willing to guess it would still use the same method..anyone know?
[04:04] <NickGarvey> nice
[04:05] <tritium> Suture: dappers questions in #ubuntu+1
[04:05] <chromakode> nidah: ok.
[04:05] <Suture> tritium: well its a breezy to dapper =P
[04:05] <_jason> linuxcrazy: if you prefer to use synaptic then the wiki link tritium sent you is clear
[04:05] <phantasmoholic> i'm scared about dapper
[04:05] <Zarephath> Suture: He knows that..
[04:05] <tritium> Suture: exactly
[04:05] <linuxcrazy> ok I'll shut up. sorry
[04:05] <La_PaRCa> tritium, fixed the restart problem with the last update :)
[04:06] <Suture> Zarephath: well im sure one of you knows how to fix it, redirecting me is just wasting my time but whatever
[04:06] <tritium> La_PaRCa: no kidding?
[04:06] <La_PaRCa> tritium, hones
[04:06] <La_PaRCa> t
[04:06] <chromakode> nidah: http://tinyurl.com/qedbo - choose what you like.
[04:06] <phantasmoholic> you tell them suture
[04:06] <tritium> La_PaRCa: what was the fix?
[04:06] <isai> hi
[04:06] <La_PaRCa> tritium, oh, it wasnt me!
[04:06] <phantasmoholic> they create an entire os for free, then give it away for free, then they need to give help for free all the time too
[04:07] <tritium> La_PaRCa: but do you know what fixed it?
[04:07] <tritium> phantasmoholic: there is paid support too
[04:07] <La_PaRCa> tritium, um... the update? no, not really.
[04:07] <IdleOne> Suture>  phantasmoholic  help for Dapper is given away for FREE in #ubuntu+1 :)
[04:07] <isai> I want to install Ubuntu over my LAN using ftp. is that possible ? (I would rather not burn a cd)
[04:07] <tritium> La_PaRCa: okay, I'll check it out :)
[04:08] <phantasmoholic> so I can buy tech support for ubuntu?
[04:08] <SpYdAbYtE> anyone that can help me with glftpd around .. i add peopel with thier ip but the only way they can conenct is to add *@0.0.0.0 for ip
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> phantasmoholic: Correct.
[04:08] <phantasmoholic> where do you do that
[04:08] <bimberi> !support
[04:08] <ubotu> somebody said support was not limited to IRC. Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/support for more options.
[04:08] <phantasmoholic> !support
[04:09] <SpYdAbYtE> send me 50 bucks paypal and ill be ur suport .. ill hand u the blunt while u get mad :)
[04:09] <HymnToLife> SpYdAbYtE> you should be promped for username/password whan connecting to a FTP serer
[04:09] <SpYdAbYtE> yes
[04:09] <SpYdAbYtE> im running glftpd server on my ubuntu box
[04:09] <g3nocide> can someone help me? i boot up ubuntu, get the nice login screen, then when gnome goes to load, the mouse show sup fine and works, then i get a white rectangle in the middle of my screen and thinks stop functioning (except the mouse, it moves around just fine )
[04:09] <HymnToLife> remember to add ftp:// before the IP if you're connecting from a web browser
[04:09] <isai> are docs somewhere on installing over Ubuntu 5.10 over ftp?
[04:09] <SpYdAbYtE> HymnToLife i think u misunderstood my ?
[04:09] <bimberi> !install
[04:09] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[04:10] <bimberi> isai: ^^^^^ there might be something there
[04:10] <isai> thanks
[04:10] <bimberi> isai: yw :)
[04:10] <SpYdAbYtE> im running glftpd server on my ubuntu box i add peopel with thier ip but they cant connect with thier username/pass until i add *@0.0.0.0 as the persons ip
[04:11] <HymnToLife> oh ok got it
[04:11] <SpYdAbYtE> :)
[04:11] <IdleOne> bimberi>  wouldnt what isai  wants to do be considered a net install? and if so i dont think he can do that
[04:11] <HymnToLife> well I can't help you with it, I use vsftpd
[04:11] <SpYdAbYtE> thats what everyen says
[04:11] <SpYdAbYtE> lol
[04:11] <SpYdAbYtE> i been fighting with this one log enough i only need htis one problem fixed
[04:11] <SpYdAbYtE> im not gonan switched after i been a week tyrig nto get it to at least work :)
[04:11] <phantasmoholic> i wonder how easy ubuntu would install on an over the hill IBM Netfinity
[04:12] <isai> IdleOne: why would it not work?
[04:12] <SpYdAbYtE> phantasmoholic : my buddy just tired it on an over the hill ibm he had to disable ...
[04:12] <SpYdAbYtE> hold ill get what it was
[04:12] <IdleOne> isai>  because I dont think net installs can be done with ubuntu..not sure though
[04:12] <julio> is there a messenger emulator or something for ubuntu?
[04:12] <SpYdAbYtE> linux acpi=off
[04:12] <bimberi> IdleOne: there are instructions for net (or netboot) installs linked to that wiki page.  I've never done it personally though.
[04:12] <phantasmoholic> julio : messenger emulator?
[04:13] <SpYdAbYtE> phantasmoholic : he had to linux acpi=off to get it to work
[04:13] <IdleOne> bimberi>  well then isai  you should be able to do it
[04:13] <julio> msn?
[04:13] <phantasmoholic> SpYdAbYtE: i'll remember that
[04:13] <bimberi> julio: Applications -> Internet -> Gaim
[04:13] <phantasmoholic> julio : I use GAIM
[04:13] <SpYdAbYtE> i use amsn
[04:13] <IdleOne> julio>  sudo apt-get install amsn
[04:13] <julio> thanks
[04:13] <SpYdAbYtE> but
[04:13] <SpYdAbYtE> i also found a problem with amsn
[04:13] <g3nocide> I boot up, then get the nice gdm login screen, things are working fine, then gnome loads up and i get the brown bg with a white garbled rectangle on it, yet my mouse still works, can anyone help me out ??
[04:14] <SpYdAbYtE> sometimes the window starst shaking cant do anything but goto term and kill it
[04:15] <phantasmoholic> i'm using mIRC with noname script
[04:15] <phantasmoholic> good alternative?
[04:15] <SpYdAbYtE> me too on this gay windows box
[04:15] <phantasmoholic> i'm using wine
[04:15] <IdleOne> phantasmoholic>  xchat
[04:15] <tritium> SpYdAbYtE: language please
[04:16] <V4Vendetta> damn
[04:16] <g3nocide> can anyone help me with this or what ???
[04:16] <V4Vendetta> my kitten is one cute little cat
[04:16] <SpYdAbYtE> ?
[04:16] <V4Vendetta> :-)
[04:16] <SpYdAbYtE> i didnt swear
[04:16] <phantasm> its not as pretty as mIRC with noname script
[04:16] <JoshRA> what is the command to reconfig s to get your correct reses?
[04:16] <phantasm> what about bitchx
[04:16] <isai> hmm...looks like a pain to do a netboot or NFS...guess I'll just have to use the CD...
[04:16] <IdleOne> phantasm>  then stick with noname :)
[04:16] <Overand> in the GNOME terminal, is there an easy way to get a 'classic' style (bitmapped) terminal font ala 'terminal' on win32 or 'Linux' in Konsole?
[04:17] <phantasmoholic> yah I think I will
[04:17] <SpYdAbYtE> tritium: ?
[04:17] <SpYdAbYtE> i like xchat
[04:17] <phantasmoholic> hmm
[04:17] <phantasmoholic> wonder how hard a java clone of noname script would be
[04:17] <jdprc06> hi
[04:17] <phantasmoholic> since I don't have any clue how to dev for X
[04:17] <jdprc06> i need some help
[04:18] <phantasmoholic> jdprc06: whats wrong
[04:18] <Whatsisname> hmmm building gnome2.14 by hand sure is fun
[04:18] <chromakode> jdprc06: with what?
[04:18] <jdprc06> i just installed ubuntu and i can't access the 36 updates that are waiting for me
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> hi guys , i am wondering how far back does a ubuntu version is supported ? for example is hoary still getting latest patches via apt-get ?
[04:18] <tritium> Whatsisname: why not just use dapper?
[04:18] <cafuego> wickedpuppy: a year, mimumum, afaik
[04:18] <chromakode> jdprc06: you seem to be doing pretty good, if you've got irc going. What seems to be the problem?
[04:18] <tritium> wickedpuppy: 18 months, typically
[04:18] <Whatsisname> tritium, two reasons
[04:19] <[1] cowboy> has anyone had problems getting ubunto 5.10 to boot from cd ?
[04:19] <jdprc06> there's an icon telling me i have updates but i can't open it
[04:19] <phantasmoholic> tritium: dapper likes to break stuff
[04:19] <chromakode> jdprc06: click on it?
[04:19] <cafuego> wickedpuppy: so hoary support may get dropped when 6.10 is released.
[04:19] <Whatsisname> one: i'm suspicious theres already a package for it for dapper, but even if there is
[04:19] <Whatsisname> i don't want to use all of dapper
[04:19] <jdprc06> i can't open the package manager either
[04:19] <chromakode> jdprc06: does it ask you for your password?
[04:19] <jdprc06> no
[04:19] <tritium> phantasmoholic: I'm aware of that
[04:19] <nickrud> whaley: if you're gonna do that make it easy: http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/
[04:19] <phantasmoholic> jdprc06: it should pop up a dialog
[04:19] <Whatsisname> besides, even if I bust my computer
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> thanks guys ....
[04:19] <jdprc06> i think it did once
[04:19] <chromakode> jdprc06: try running it on a terminal
[04:19] <chromakode> jdprc06: do you need help with that?
[04:19] <Whatsisname> I can always use apt-get to restore gnome to 2.14 and wait until theres a regular package for gnome 2.14 for breezy
[04:19] <tritium> phantasmoholic: but if he's capable of building gnome from source, he can run dapper
[04:19] <jdprc06> yeah
[04:20] <chromakode> jdprc06: can you launch gnome-terminal?
[04:20] <Whatsisname> has someone already made an apt package for gnome2.14?
[04:20] <SpYdAbYtE> noone at all uses glftpd?
[04:20] <phantasmoholic> tritium: capable, or bored enough
[04:20] <nickrud> um, sorry whaley Whatsisname  http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/ makes it easy
[04:20] <Whatsisname> garnome failed to work
[04:20] <jdprc06> not sure how to do that
[04:21] <Whatsisname> and i'm too lazy to figure out why it failed
[04:21] <Whatsisname> same with jhbuild
[04:21] <tritium> Whatsisname: it's in dapper, yes (and hence, packaged)
[04:21] <chromakode> jdprc06: applications->accessories->terminal
[04:21] <nickrud> Whatsisname: ok, point :)
[04:21] <jdprc06> oh ok haha
[04:21] <jdprc06> got it
[04:21] <chromakode> jdprc06: put in "sudo synaptic" and see what you get. :)
[04:21] <Whatsisname> building it by hand really isn't all that difficult its just tedious because I have to go in the right order
[04:22] <nickrud> I used to do that, but boy when garnome appeared ...
[04:23] <jdprc06> it says password, but when i can't type my password
[04:23] <Whatsisname> garnome got about half way through
[04:23] <chromakode> jdprc06: it will not show, but your password will be recorded.
[04:23] <Whatsisname> screwed up because something it built was out of order
[04:23] <nickrud> and then apt-get rose into my conciousness, and I left gcc on the shelf
[04:23] <chromakode> jdprc06: try entering it and pressing enter.
[04:23] <Whatsisname> resolved one of them, got another
[04:23] <Whatsisname> and said screw it and just started from scratch
[04:23] <jdprc06> i can't run sudo anymore
[04:24] <chromakode> jdprc06: what output do you get on the command line?
[04:24] <jdprc06> my username
[04:24] <jdprc06> it said 2 incorrect password attempts
[04:24] <jdprc06> then didn't let me in
[04:24] <chromakode> jdprc06: ok. are you sure your password is entered correctly?
[04:25] <jdprc06> i believe
[04:25] <Ads_> please help! why does my mouse keep skipping? i'm coming to the point of just giving up i can seem to fix it no matter what........my cursor always skips and it's come to the point where it's barely usable :(
[04:26] <FunnyLookinHat> Wow, who saw the "YAY FOR AUTOMATIX" Slashdot post?
[04:26] <chromakode> jdprc06: ok. well, if sudo isn't accepting it, something is wrong.
[04:26] <julio> can somebody tell me what the diferrence between ubuntu and kubuntu
[04:26] <chromakode> jdprc06: are you on a new install?
[04:26] <FunnyLookinHat> julio, Kubuntu uses KDE
[04:26] <chromakode> julio: gnome and kde?
[04:26] <jdprc06> yes
[04:26] <FunnyLookinHat> julio, ubuntu uses Gnome
[04:26] <fiveiron> anyone using cedega cvs?
[04:26] <chromakode> jdprc06: perhaps you have mistyped your password.
[04:26] <chromakode> jdprc06: :(
[04:26] <SpYdAbYtE> Ubuntu Rocks :)
[04:26] <phantasmoholic> julio: one uses an exessive amount of k's
[04:26] <jdprc06> where can i fix that?
[04:26] <FunnyLookinHat> julio, the basic different is that KDE is more, windowesque
[04:26] <SpYdAbYtE> made me leave windows xp pro :)
[04:26] <mafialord> Hey, can someone please help me?
[04:27] <Whatsisname> with what
[04:27] <phantasmoholic> mafialord: state the problem
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> SpYdAbYtE: Me too.
[04:27] <La_PaRCa> KDE is the suck
[04:27] <Payman> Greetings
[04:27] <FunnyLookinHat> KDE blowz0rs.
[04:27] <phantasmoholic> La_PaRCa: you teh noob
[04:27] <cafuego> KDE sucks far less than trolls. Kindly leave.
[04:27] <mafialord> I want to install an Apache server on my ubuntu, but I am a bit lost... I'm new to Linux
[04:27] <chromakode> jdprc06: let me think of the best method.
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell mafialord about helpme
[04:27] <tritium> no desktop wars, please
[04:27] <La_PaRCa> phantasmoholic, nah, im just captain useful
[04:28] <phantasmoholic> La_PaRCa: lol
[04:28] <Xenguy> intelikey: nah, yer funny -- metaphor
[04:28] <SpYdAbYtE> 22days so far
[04:28] <jdprc06> ok
[04:28] <chromakode> jdprc06: do you have a live cd?
[04:28] <SpYdAbYtE> last time i tried a unix distro it was madrake 7.0 lastes 2 days :)
[04:28] <[1] cowboy> has anyone had problems getting ubuntu cd version 5.10 to install ?
[04:28] <jdprc06> yes
[04:28] <[1] cowboy> i have too
[04:29] <SpYdAbYtE> what kinda system
[04:29] <IdleOne> [1] cowboy>  what problems you having exactly?
[04:29] <SpYdAbYtE> i installed it on many dif ones now ..
[04:29] <SpYdAbYtE> 800 amd k6 .. 256 meg ram
[04:29] <[1] cowboy> i have an amd sempron 3300+ and have tried x86 32 bit and amd 64 bit disks
[04:29] <SpYdAbYtE> 16meg vanta vid card
[04:29] <SpYdAbYtE> runs liek a champ
[04:29] <Ads_> please help! why does my mouse keep skipping? i'm coming to the point of just giving up i can seem to fix it no matter what........my cursor always skips and it's come to the point where it's barely usable :(
[04:29] <SpYdAbYtE> games even run better then when windows was ran
[04:29] <mafialord> Can anyone please help me? I asked my question before ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
[04:29] <SoulPropagation> SpYdAbYtE: What now?
[04:29] <chromakode> jdprc06: I've reset root password using chroot and a livedisk, but since you might not be so experienced with a command line, this might be a bit tricky.
[04:30] <HymnToLife> SpYdAbYtE> I installed it on a 486 DX, 8MB RAM, 800 MB HD /p
[04:30] <[1] cowboy> it tries to boot from cd then goes into recovery and boots from hard drive
[04:30] <phantasmoholic> last linux I actually used was redhet 5
[04:30] <SpYdAbYtE> SoulPropagation ?
[04:30] <NickGarvey> mafialord: apt-get install apache
[04:30] <NickGarvey> !apache
[04:30] <ubotu> somebody said apache was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:30] <bimberi> ubotu tell mafialord about lamp
[04:30] <SoulPropagation> (09:29:33 PM) SpYdAbYtE: games even run better then when windows was ran
[04:30] <NickGarvey> mafialord: apt-get install apache2
[04:30] <mafialord> Thanks : )
[04:30] <SoulPropagation> SpYdAbYtE: What are you using?
[04:30] <jdprc06> well i know the password, i just typed it wrong that time into sudo synaptic. what if i rebooted?
[04:30] <fybervibe> just installed ubuntu and would like to view .mov movie files. In Firefox, I get "Totem could not play 'fd://0' There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins." Where do I get the plugins?
[04:30] <jdprc06> would it reset sudo
[04:30] <SpYdAbYtE> ubuntu 5.10
[04:30] <SpYdAbYtE> Breezy badger power :)
[04:30] <Xenguy> mafialord: it's not hard really - just install it, check the config file, check permissions, and go
[04:30] <chromakode> jdprc06: mmm. has the password worked before?
[04:30] <SoulPropagation> SpYdAbYtE: I mean to run the games
[04:30] <jdprc06> yes
[04:31] <jdprc06> when i logged in, of course
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> SpYdAbYtE: Cedega?
[04:31] <chromakode> jdprc06: if you typed it wrong, it shouldn't have saved it in any way.
[04:31] <jdprc06> ok
[04:31] <jdprc06> it just locked me out?
[04:31] <mafialord> Okay, thanks Xenguy!
[04:31] <chromakode> jdprc06: are you putting your user password into sudo?
[04:31] <SpYdAbYtE> well using gnome to run ememy territory
[04:31] <phantasmoholic> along the lines of fybervibe, does anyone know of a standalone app or codec to play FLV files
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> How do I turn off the thing that kills X when I hit ctrlshiftbackspace?
[04:31] <chromakode> jdprc06: you should not be locked out.
[04:31] <Xenguy> mafialord: np
[04:31] <jdprc06> yes it's the only one i have
[04:31] <fybervibe> SpYdAbYtE: enemy territory rules
[04:31] <jdprc06> of sudo, i am
[04:31] <jdprc06> i can't run it
[04:31] <chromakode> jdprc06: well, it runs, but doesn't take your password, right?
[04:31] <SpYdAbYtE> fybervibe u play alot>
[04:31] <jdprc06> not anymore
[04:31] <phantasmoholic> fybervibe: your alias is too cool
[04:31] <jdprc06> i can't get it to respond
[04:31] <fybervibe> SpYdAbYtE: not as much as i used to, but starting to get into it again
[04:32] <fybervibe> phantasmoholic: thanks
[04:32] <SpYdAbYtE> fybervibe can i pm u ?
[04:32] <chromakode> jdprc06: what do you mean by not responding?
[04:32] <fybervibe> SpYdAbYtE: sure
[04:32] <jdprc06> i type sudo synaptic and it just gives me another command line
[04:32] <SpYdAbYtE> oh i cant
[04:32] <SpYdAbYtE>  private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[04:32] <chromakode> jdprc06: but it accepts your password?
[04:32] <SpYdAbYtE> hmmz
[04:32] <SpYdAbYtE> u have msn
[04:32] <phantasmoholic> hmm
[04:32] <fybervibe> yahoo
[04:32] <SpYdAbYtE> bah
[04:32] <keishin> Uhmm... okay.  Now I can't open up several things in System>Administration.  Like Users and Groups will show up below with Starting Users and Groups, then it goes away and it never opens... help?
[04:32] <phantasmoholic> i gotta go think of a new mashup of words to make a new alias
[04:32] <Xenguy> !pm
[04:32] <ubotu> Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[04:32] <KING_DIAMOND> divx a vcd pal a ntsc
[04:32] <KING_DIAMOND> ?
[04:32] <IdleOne> SpYdAbYtE>  /msg nickserv register help
[04:32] <silvaran> SpYdAbYtE: /msg nickserv register
[04:33] <jdprc06> it doesn't ask any more
[04:33] <fybervibe> <-- trying to get video client to work... any help appreciated
[04:33] <SpYdAbYtE> ok i reged
[04:33] <SpYdAbYtE> are u reged?
[04:33] <NickGarvey> I can't seem to get my X-server to forward over my SSH connection, any one know anything about this?
[04:34] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: /etc/ssh/sshd_config  <-- X forwarding enabled?
[04:34] <chromakode> jdprc06: it's odd that it wouldn't work. If you're sure it worked before, perhaps try logging in and out of gnome
[04:34] <SpYdAbYtE> fybervibe i sent u a pm
[04:34] <chromakode> jdprc06: I don't know why that would fix anything, though.
[04:34] <fybervibe> fuck, i forget my identify password.. hehe
[04:34] <NickGarvey> !language
[04:34] <IdleOne> language
[04:34] <ubotu> I guess language is please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:35] <bimberi> keishin: try running 'gksu users-admin' from a terminal and look for errors (don't worry about the "host-based authentication failed" warning)
[04:35] <intelikey> can't figure out what is eating up all the ram....(and does) tty2 [root#~]  cat /dev/random > /dev/shm/file
[04:35] <SpYdAbYtE> oh sure i got a ban and i didnt even swear
[04:35] <jdprc06> i'll try that
[04:35] <chromakode> jdprc06: ok.
[04:35] <keishin> It seems to hang, bimberi.
[04:36] <tritium> SpYdAbYtE: no, you were quieted for a few seconds, that's it.
[04:36] <rukuartic> Anyone know why when I'm running screen, I get Gtk-WARNING**: Cannot open display?
[04:36] <SpYdAbYtE> yeah but +b was the quietr
[04:36] <tritium> SpYdAbYtE: and you know what you said
[04:36] <Xenguy> rukuartic: are you root?
[04:36] <tritium> +b % is not the same as +b
[04:36] <SpYdAbYtE> i didnt swear tho :)
[04:36] <rukuartic> Xenguy: Don't think so
[04:36] <SpYdAbYtE> im just messing sorry
[04:36] <rukuartic> Xenguy: nope
[04:37] <Xenguy> rukuartic: hrm
[04:37] <tritium> SpYdAbYtE: you used the "g" word, which is offensive or insulting to some
[04:37] <intelikey> what in the Krap is /dev/shm used for anyway ?
[04:37] <rukuartic> Xenguy: I have a program running as a different user
[04:37] <silvaran> tritium: gonads?
[04:37] <SpYdAbYtE> oh
[04:37] <chromakode> intelikey: I believe it's swap?
[04:37] <Xenguy> rukuartic: that sounds likely
[04:37] <rukuartic> Xenguy: Its like this, logged in as rukuartic, run gnome-terminal and then screen ontop of that.
[04:37] <SpYdAbYtE> sorry i apologize
[04:37] <intelikey> it is ram isn't it
[04:37] <tritium> silvaran: don't...
[04:37] <mafialord> I've got another problem. When I try installing anything at all, I get an error saying "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)" and "Unable to lock the list directory"
[04:37] <Xenguy> rukuartic: as the same user?  That should not be a problem
[04:38] <mafialord> What should I do about that?
[04:38] <keishin> Yeah bimberi, I get a blinking box on the next line (no prompt)...
[04:38] <intelikey> chromakode swap ram to ramdisk sounds like something M$ would do, not linux
[04:38] <rukuartic> Xenguy: So we have gnome-term>screen>(user hldsadmin) and (user rukuartic)... I go run something like gedit and it doesn't want to work.
[04:38] <mafialord> Sorry... First time using Linux : (
[04:38] <rukuartic> miketech: Congrats :D
[04:38] <chromakode> mafialord: you've got another apt program running. close synaptic, if you have it open.
[04:38] <chromakode> intelikey: I wasn't quite sure.
[04:38] <IdleOne> !tell mafialord about repos
[04:38] <intelikey> k
[04:38] <IdleOne> !tell mafialord about apache
[04:38] <mafialord> Thanks, I'll try that
[04:38] <Suture> Alright noone will help in ubuntu+1 so somone help me get rid of my dist-upgrade error
[04:38] <Xenguy> rukuartic: yeah, yer into X permissions there (xauth?) -- I don't know anything else
[04:38] <chromakode> mafialord: otherwise, you might have a stale lock.
[04:38] <rukuartic> Xenguy: Hmm
[04:39] <mafialord> Oh
[04:39] <mafialord> I had that problem las time and tried reinstalling, so I don't think it is a stale lock.
[04:39] <keishin> ehh... you see any of that, bimberi?
[04:39] <Xenguy> rukuartic: man xauth  ?
[04:39] <mafialord> Otherwise I doubt it would happen twice, right?
[04:39] <chromakode> mafialord: reinstalling?
[04:39] <mafialord> Yeah, I removed ubuntu and installed it again
[04:39] <Quinch> I have a question - when I hit ctrl-alt-f1 {through F6}, what exactly am I switching to and how do I get back to the GUI?
[04:40] <chromakode> mafialord: whoa! you shouldn't need to go that far ;)
[04:40] <bimberi> keishin: only "It seems to hang" :|
[04:40] <mafialord> lol
[04:40] <Xenguy> Quinch: C-A-F7
[04:40] <chromakode> mafialord: if you have no clear software managers open, it's probably a stale lock.
[04:40] <phantasm> hey here's an interesting question
[04:40] <keishin> Yeah, and...
[04:40] <[1] cowboy> has anyone had problems booting from ubuntu cd with the latest version
[04:40] <keishin> Yeah bimberi, I get a blinking box on the next line (no prompt)...
[04:40] <mafialord> What can I do about a "stale lock"?
[04:40] <intelikey> Quinch the linux console   and the gui is in tty7   alt-f7
[04:40] <phantasm> i installed firefox 1.5 on ubuntu, and it always opens to thompsons.com even if I set my own homepage
[04:40] <yggdrasil_> how can i get java and real player ;)
[04:40] <Quinch> Neato. Thanks.
[04:40] <chromakode> mafialord: we must delete it :)
[04:41] <phantasm> er petersons.com
[04:41] <bimberi> keishin: hm, not much to go on there :|
[04:41] <mafialord> Oh. How would we do that?
[04:41] <phantasm> anyone else experienced this or know how it might be doing that
[04:41] <IdleOne> phantasm>  how did you install ff1.5?
[04:41] <chromakode> mafialord: are you comfortable with a terminal?
[04:41] <Xenguy> Quinch: so you have 6 'virtual consoles' (cli) and then X starts on F7
[04:41] <pjv> anyone here got xvidcap working?
[04:41] <bimberi> keishin: does sudo work (eg. 'sudo ls' in a terminal)?
[04:41] <keishin> Yeah, no kidding.
[04:41] <mafialord> Eh- kind of. I'm more used to the Windows terminal, heh, very new to Linux...
[04:41] <phantasm> IdleOne: I downloaded the file from mozilla and unpacked it and changed around some links
[04:41] <Quinch> Xenguy: Thanks!
[04:41] <keishin> Yeah, it does.
[04:41] <Xenguy> mafialord: then this will be a relief :-)
[04:41] <chromakode> mafialord: ok. I can coach you through it if you'd like,.
[04:41] <IdleOne> !tell phantasm about ff1.5
[04:41] <Xenguy> Quinch: aye
[04:42] <frank23> anybody heard about this? there will be a free legal way to distribute mp3 support in gstreamer: http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html
[04:42] <_jason> I would like to create a directory foo so that when ever I or another user on my system copies a file to foo, all users will be able have read, write, and execute permissions without me having to manually change the permissions on the file everytime I copy something to foo.  Is this possible?
[04:42] <keishin> Err, Yes it does work that is, bimberi.
[04:42] <mafialord> Sure, thanks!
[04:42] <IdleOne> phantasm>  use that link from the bot and you may want to remove that versuion you have installed
[04:42] <phantasm> IdleOne: that is the page I used to do it
[04:42] <bimberi> keishin: hmmk
[04:42] <Xenguy> _jason: chmod g+s  ?
[04:42] <chromakode> mafialord: ok, so pull open your terminal
[04:42] <NickGarvey> Xenguy: yes, forwarding is on
[04:42] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: good
[04:43] <IdleOne> phantasm>  dont know what you did then but it shouldnt be opening thompson.com thats for sure
[04:43] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: and the client does ssh -X/x  ? (memory)
[04:43] <mafialord> k
[04:43] <frank23> _jason: put all the users in the same group and give rw access to tthat group
[04:43] <mafialord> It's open.
[04:43] <NickGarvey> -X is the switch, and yes
[04:43] <phantasm> I think I'll just untar over it
[04:43] <NickGarvey> -x turns it off
[04:43] <phantasm> and see if that changes it
[04:43] <rukuartic> Xenguy: What's G+s do?
[04:43] <intelikey> how do you set a background image in lilo ?
[04:43] <_jason> Xenguy: ah ok I will try that.  man chmod gavev me the impression it was only for executable but I should have experimented :)
[04:44] <intelikey> is it splash=file ?
[04:44] <chromakode> mafialord: one moment.
[04:44] <mafialord> k
[04:44] <SpYdAbYtE> before i have to go and hit the bed for sleep is there anyone who can help me with glftpd please ?
[04:44] <bimberi> keishin: how about 'gksu ls'
[04:44] <rukuartic> My ubuntu splash never gets past loading modules... then it goes to a terminal and back to X
[04:44] <Xenguy> rukuartic: set guid (memory circuits are failing at the moment; permissions are inherited to some extent)
[04:44] <rukuartic> Xenguy: Sweet.
[04:44] <_jason> frank23: if I have foo with 666 permissions and foo/bar.txt in foo with bar.txt having 000 permissions I would be able to edit bar.txt?
[04:45] <Xenguy> _jason: should work
[04:45] <keishin> Same as earlier, bimberi - hangs
[04:45] <chromakode> mafialord: beeen a while since I've had to do this :)
[04:45] <mafialord> That's k : )
[04:45] <keishin> bimberi, Well, doesn't actually hang I guess.  I can type stuff on that blank line
[04:45] <frank23> _jason: no bar.txt needs appropriate permisions as well
[04:45] <intelikey> brb.
[04:45] <NickGarvey> Xenguy: I was able to forward xclock once but nothing sense then, and startx failed when I did it then
[04:45] <_jason> frank23: right, that was my problem.  I didn't want to always have to modify the permissions
[04:45] <phantasm> grr
[04:45] <phantasm> still doing it
[04:46] <phantasm> how is this petersons.com place taken over my fireofx
[04:46] <phantasm> i feel like I'm using IE or something
[04:46] <Frogzoo> _jason: no - you won't be able to write the file - but try it & see
[04:46] <chromakode> mafialord: so, first of all, let's try 'sudo fuser /var/lib/apt/lists/lock'
[04:46] <mafialord> Okay, I'll try that
[04:46] <keishin> phantasm, I actually have the same thing going on.  Somehow mine is set to www.arizone.edu =(
[04:47] <phantasm> wow man, this is whacky
[04:47] <chromakode> mafialord: it may ask for your password. just type er in and press enter.
[04:47] <NickGarvey> phantasm: did you grep all of the firefox files for petersons.com?
[04:47] <phantasm> i'll try that
[04:47] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: I confess I don't actually use it that much ( tho it is very cool, and I want to).  I've been using x11vnc over SSH lately to forward the whole X display ;-)
[04:47] <mafialord> k, It asked for the pass and I entered it. Nothing happened. No errors or anything
[04:47] <chromakode> mafialord: ok.
[04:47] <NickGarvey> Xenguy: yeah I don't want to have a GUI running on the server though
[04:47] <NickGarvey> which is needed for vnc but not what I am trying to do
[04:47] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: good point
[04:48] <chromakode> mafialord: try 'sudo cat /var/lib/apt/lists/lock'
[04:48] <SpYdAbYtE> ok guys night ill be back tommrow i guess
[04:48] <phantasm> umm, yah, whats a good way to grep all my firefox files
[04:48] <NickGarvey> but this is being insanely difficult
[04:48] <tyler> can mplayer play asx file?
[04:48] <tyler> can mplayer play asx file?
[04:48] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: I didn't realize it was a server only
[04:48] <_jason> tyler: yes, install w32codecs
[04:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell tyler about w32codecs
[04:48] <mafialord> Again, nothing happened.
[04:48] <bimberi> keishin: seems to be an issue with gksu, sorry i'm not sure what that could be though :/
[04:48] <chromakode> mafialord: ok.
[04:48] <NickGarvey> Xenguy: yeah I upgraded the hardware so I figured I would mess around with forwarding GUIs
[04:48] <chromakode> mafialord: and you aren't able to run synaptic or the like?
[04:49] <mafialord> I am
[04:49] <mafialord> That is how I installed Apache
[04:49] <tintin> #charmed-ones
[04:49] <mafialord> unpackaged it from there
[04:49] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: it's something I should have played with years ago, but you know how it goes (so many things to explore :-)
[04:49] <phantasm> grep peterson *
[04:49] <keishin> Yeah...  Thanks anyway though, bimberi .
[04:49] <phantasm> found nothing
[04:49] <chromakode> mafialord: oh. so wait, what seems to be the problem?
[04:49] <_jason> Xenguy: doesn't appear to have worked, thank you for the suggestion though
[04:49] <mafialord> All those errors with the console.
[04:50] <_jason> Frogzoo: appears you were right, this does not have an easy solution afayk?
[04:50] <chromakode> mafialord: errors with the console where? Sorry, I'm a bit confused.
[04:50] <wastrel> X forwarding over SSH?
[04:50] <wastrel> er, ssh
[04:50] <Xenguy> _jason: bummer - sounded like a cure for your situation
[04:50] <mafialord> The lock problem we were talking about. What would be causing that?
[04:50] <mafialord> Using synaptic is fine, but what would be causing that?
[04:50] <nvicf> hi there, I have a question, sometimes when I try to install something it asks for my ubuntu cd, which I don't have, can I avoid that and make apt install from the internet?
[04:50] <chromakode> mafialord: sometimes, an apt client can leave a lock file up if it's closed abruptly.
[04:50] <Xenguy> wastrel: the mysteries of SSH are many and subtle ;P
[04:50] <frank23> nvicf: in synaptic disable the cdrom source
[04:51] <chromakode> mafialord: however, are you getting this error from apt-get commands in the command line? or where?
[04:51] <smithjohn> nvicf - remove your cd rom source....
[04:51] <NickGarvey> wastrel: yeah thats what I am trying
[04:51] <mafialord> apt-get commands in the command line
[04:51] <chromakode> mafialord: I might be trying to fix the wrong problem ;)
[04:51] <smithjohn> and add the online sources only
[04:51] <mafialord> Also, many of my applications are giving me errors saying certain files don't exist.
[04:51] <chromakode> mafialord: ok. and you're getting the errors with synaptic closed?
[04:51] <chromakode> mafialord: which files?
[04:51] <jadaz87> does anyone know of a good ftp client for ubuntu that is in the repos?
[04:51] <chromakode> mafialord: the lock file?
[04:51] <mafialord> Nah. Theres a whole list
[04:51] <rukuartic> jadaz87: gftp is pretty good, preinstalled
[04:51] <mafialord> For example...
[04:51] <frank23> jadaz87: gftp is good
[04:52] <Xenguy> jadaz87: command-line: lftp; gui, hrm
[04:52] <intelikey> jadaz87 ncftp
[04:52] <mafialord> Anjuta IDE...
[04:52] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: I use vsftpd, no gui needed
[04:52] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  it's not working for you?
[04:52] <mafialord> Missing "MAKE"
[04:52] <intelikey> jadaz87 lftp
[04:52] <chromakode> mafialord: oh. heheh.
[04:52] <NickGarvey> wastrel: nope, I was able to forward a clock once but it has failed sense
[04:52] <jadaz87> gftp is preinstalled?
[04:52] <chromakode> mafialord: well, that's mot an apt issue.
[04:52] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: that's an ftpd tho
[04:52] <mafialord> Yesterday, I tried running an FTP program. "Could not find *some file*"
[04:52] <keishin> bimberi, would the debug switch be helpful?
[04:52] <mafialord> Oh.
[04:52] <NickGarvey> oh, he wanted a client?
[04:52] <chromakode> mafialord: apt-get install build-essentials if you need make
[04:52] <tritium> mafialord: it's build-essential (no s)
[04:52] <Xenguy> jadaz87: gftp works, but is a bit sucky with interface design :-)
[04:52] <chromakode> mafialord: however, your problems with apt-get on the command line? what is the output?
[04:52] <mafialord> Oh
[04:53] <chromakode> tritium: doh, right.
[04:53] <mafialord> One sec
[04:53] <keishin> Or well
[04:53] <mafialord> I'll copy and paste it
[04:53] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: I think so
[04:53] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  you connecting with ssh -X  ?
[04:53] <keishin> Can anyone help me with a problem I seem to be having with gksu?
[04:53] <chromakode> mafialord: please privvate message it.
[04:53] <NickGarvey> wastrel: yes, let me show you my error
[04:53] <ITSa341> I'm trying to install GNUstep Position http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/  When I run "make install" I get this error. Can someone give me some insight into what I am doing wrong??
[04:53] <mafialord> k
[04:53] <chromakode> mafialord: spamming the channel is not recommended :)
[04:53] <ITSa341> I'm trying to install GNUstep Position http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/  When I run "make install" I get this error. Can someone give me some insight into what I am doing wrong??
[04:53] <bimberi> keishin: could be, if it has one
[04:53] <jadaz87> xenguy oh ok
[04:53] <ITSa341> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10368
[04:53] <mafialord> Oh, sorry! Heh.
[04:53] <nvicf> frank23, in synapsis -> settings -> preferences or repositories?
[04:53] <ITSa341> oops
[04:53] <Xenguy> jadaz87: having said that, I use gftp :-)
[04:53] <NickGarvey> http://pastebin.com/606815
[04:54] <frank23> nvicf: manage repositories
[04:54] <chiletix> hello
[04:54] <jadaz87> xenguy i think i am going to install that then
[04:54] <chiletix> i need some helpwith samba
[04:54] <chiletix> can anybody help me?
[04:54] <NickGarvey> ,/join #samba
[04:54] <nvicf> frank23, but repositories in synapsis I have the ubuntu version but it doesn't explicitly indicates cdrom
[04:55] <Xenguy> jadaz87: it's the only gui I know, but I here filezilla is being ported, which will be nicer when it arrives
[04:55] <NickGarvey> that would prob be your best bet chiletix
[04:55] <Xenguy> hear
[04:55] <keishin> bimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10370
[04:55] <frank23> nvicf: the first one should be the cdrom source I think
[04:55] <nvicf> frank23, ah sorry!
[04:55] <phantasm> wow these guys did a good job of hijacking my firefox
[04:56] <Xenguy> jadaz87: (nautilus does ftp stuff to of course)
[04:56] <NickGarvey> wastrel: I have tried setting the display variable myself but no luck
[04:56] <arrinmurr> filezilla is already quite usable
[04:56] <chromakode> mafialord: everything alright?
[04:56] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  and you have the X forwarding option in your sshd_config ?
[04:56] <NickGarvey> yes
[04:56] <mafialord> Yeah. I'm PMing you, but you aren't answering.
[04:56] <jadaz87> xenguy i searched for gftp within add applications but it did not come up with anything
[04:56] <chromakode> mafialord: haven't gotten anything from you yet :)
[04:56] <chiletix> NickGarvey, what do you mean? do you have any ideao of samba?
[04:56] <NickGarvey> it did work once remember
[04:56] <loststar4545> sometimes when i download a program from the repository i cant figure out how to start it  i refreshed gnome panel to see if it appears there is there any  tip  or command to find this out right now i am trying to figure out  how to start avida-base
[04:56] <mafialord> That's odd. I just PM'd.
[04:56] <chromakode> mafialord: /msg chromakode ?
[04:56] <NickGarvey> chiletix: the chatroom #samba would be able to help you more
[04:56] <mafialord> Ah, I'll try that :)
[04:56] <rukuartic> loststar4545: I'm guessing avida... you could try looking around by yourself
[04:57] <keishin> bimberi, the "\uffff" appears as boxes to me
[04:57] <jadaz87> xenguy how can you do ftpclient with nautilus?
[04:57] <rukuartic> loststar4545: for example, "whereis avida-base" or "grep avida /usr/bin /usr/local/bin"
[04:57] <loststar4545> i tried  avida  allready
[04:57] <chiletix> oka thanks
[04:57] <loststar4545> thanks
[04:57] <mafialord> Did you recieve it now?
[04:57] <chromakode> mafialord: fraid not :/
[04:57] <rukuartic> loststar4545: Hold up bad command or filename!! ><
[04:57] <rukuartic> loststar4545: sorry, "ls /usr/local/bin | grep avida"
[04:57] <phantasm> whats the best way to search the contents of all files on my system quickly
[04:58] <mafialord> Hmmm... That's odd. See that is one of my problems as well; small glitches with the software ubuntu came with
[04:58] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  it looks like the X server on the local machine is refusing connections from the client on the remote host
[04:58] <mafialord> Do you have an IM client like AIM or MSN?
[04:58] <rukuartic> loststar4545: Usually, programs are under /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin -- unless its administrative ad then its in /sbin
[04:58] <chromakode> mafialord: aim chromakode.
[04:58] <NickGarvey> wastrel: hosts file maybe?
[04:58] <mafialord> k
[04:58] <NickGarvey> hosts.allow
[04:58] <NickGarvey> I'll check
[04:58] <rukuartic> mafialord: Try "naim" :D Its console based. "GAIM" works well too..
[04:58] <EX0S> Does anybody dualboot?
[04:58] <NickGarvey> wastrel: no.. I wouldn't be able to ssh in I think...
[04:58] <rukuartic> EX0S: I do
[04:58] <bimberi> keishin: sorry, it's a mystery to me, if noone else knows you could try plugging some of that into google :/
[04:58] <NickGarvey> I love naim
[04:58] <tritium> EX0S: sure
[04:58] <rukuartic> Go NickGarvey
[04:58] <jdprc06> how do you open the package manager?
[04:59] <keishin> mm, okay.  Thanks anyway
[04:59] <mafialord> ah, I've already got GAIM working. Heh, luckily that works
[04:59] <ITSa341> I'm trying to install GNUstep Position http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/  When I run "make install" I get this error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10368 Can someone give me some insight into what I am doing wrong??
[04:59] <chromakode> mafialord: haha.
[04:59] <tritium> jdprc06: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[04:59] <EX0S> I'm trying to dual boot with NFTS
[04:59] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  you're using putty to ssh?
[04:59] <EX0S> and the Ubuntu cant create the partions
[04:59] <jdprc06> thanks
[04:59] <rukuartic> EX0S: Ok, how are your drive(s) set up?
[04:59] <NickGarvey> wastrel: yes, but I have the ssh package for cygwin also
[05:00] <EX0S> well ones a maxtor with windows XP home edition and the partion is 82.0 GB
[05:00] <NickGarvey> I'm getting tethereal now to see whats happening
[05:00] <jdprc06> what's the terminal command for package manager?
[05:00] <_jason> jbroome: aptitude or apt-get
[05:00] <phantasm> wow everytime I use Ubuntu, I end up hating it more and more and more and more
[05:00] <intelikey> exos linux doesn't make ntfs
[05:00] <_jason> jdprc06: ^
[05:00] <tritium> EX0S: the installer can resize ntfs partitions
[05:00] <cdubya> has anyone had any success converting wma to a more usable format?
[05:00] <EX0S> it wont though
[05:00] <jbroome> phatasm: i feel the same way about irc
[05:00] <EX0S> i tell it to use 42.0 GB for windows and it doesnt do anything
[05:00] <NickGarvey> yeah phantasm was using the wrong command
[05:01] <rukuartic> EX0S: You need to explain a little further... Do you have two physical hard drives, or one?
[05:01] <EX0S> it still says 82.0 GB
[05:01] <keishin> Could anyone help me with a problem I'm having with gksu?
[05:01] <NickGarvey> needed grep -r peterson ./*
[05:01] <tritium> EX0S: it works for me and others
[05:01] <EX0S> I user 2
[05:01] <EX0S> ones 40.0 GB and ones 82.0 GB
[05:01] <_jason> keishin: probably best if you just state your problem
[05:01] <rukuartic> EX0S: Ok, which one is your primary hard drive?
[05:01] <EX0S> the C:
[05:01] <EX0S> 82.0 GB
[05:01] <pizzadude> does ubuntu normally take a long time to install? i've been installing now for abot 3 hours (server install)
[05:01] <intelikey> EX0S linux doesn't make NTFS   let M$ do that part.
[05:01] <rukuartic> EX0S: Ok, that needs to be the secondary hard drive. Your primary should be the 40 GB
[05:01] <rukuartic> pizzadude: Are you using Dapper?
[05:02] <NickGarvey> wastrel: is this all happening over port 22?
[05:02] <keishin> well _jason, it doesn't seem to work.  I try to gksu anything and it goes to a new line in the term and just sits there.
[05:02] <pizzadude> dunno what is dapper?
[05:02] <EX0S> both my harddirves are NFTS
[05:02] <EX0S> I tried everything!
[05:02] <rukuartic> EX0S: You can't put Linux on NTFS... just doesn't work.
[05:02] <rukuartic> EX0S: This is what I reccomend...
[05:02] <NickGarvey> wastrel: I ask because when I monitor port 22, everytime it updates, I get a log entry, everytime I get a log entry, it shows it on my screen, and thus updates again
[05:02] <_jason> keishin: hrmm were you magically fixed sudo guy?
[05:02] <keishin> _jason, yes I was =\
[05:03] <EX0S> can i change the partions to FAT?
[05:03] <pizzadude> rukuartic: what is dapper?
[05:03] <_jason> keishin: gksudo gedit, does that work?
[05:03] <intelikey> !ntfs
[05:03] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:03] <intelikey> EX0S linux doesn't do fat either
[05:03] <EX0S> then what does it do?
[05:03] <rukuartic> EX0S: Move your 40 gb to your primary hard drive position. Then move your 82 gb to the secondary partition. Make sure all your important files are off your 40 gb drive. Then put the install CD in again and put Ubuntu on your 40 gb. You'll have to format the drive
[05:03] <Madpilot> EX0S, Ubuntu uses EXT3 as it's default format, I'm not sure it'll run with your root or home partitions on FAT
[05:03] <intelikey> ext2 ext3 reiserfs
[05:03] <rukuartic> intelikey: It doesn't? I thought ti does.
[05:04] <EX0S> ........
[05:04] <keishin> _jason, after I do the magically fixed sudo thing, yes.
[05:04] <EX0S> cant i change the,
[05:04] <EX0S> them*
[05:04] <silvaran> rukuartic: I think he might mean you probably shouldn't use it as your / filesystem :)
[05:04] <_jason> keishin: huh?
[05:04] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  yes it should all be going over the ssh connection
[05:04] <tritium> rukuartic: I don't think he meant that it can't use fat32...
[05:04] <rukuartic> EX0S: I don't get your question...
[05:04] <rukuartic> tritium: oh
[05:04] <keishin> _jason, I seem to need to 'sudo ls' something first for it to work
[05:04] <EX0S> Chttp://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm
[05:04] <intelikey> rukuartic no it can't install on fat.  it can access fat but fat doesn't support the permissions information required by linux
[05:04] <EX0S> he changed the,
[05:05] <NickGarvey> wastrel: ok tethereal won't do it then
[05:05] <_jason> keishin: you should be using gksudo, not gksu.  Could that be the problem?
[05:05] <rukuartic> intelikey: Thats why i said move your files and format :P
[05:05] <silvaran> Is it possible to set default umasks with cifs/samba? 0644 for files, 0755 for dirs?
[05:05] <silvaran> err, perms
[05:05] <intelikey> yes,  and i agree. rukuartic
[05:05] <EX0S> He has NFTS ans it works for him
[05:05] <intelikey> errr actually move repartition and format.
[05:05] <keishin> _jason, I am using gksudo on gedit
[05:06] <Xenguy> oh yeah
[05:06] <dieman> nifty, new version of flash out.
[05:06] <dieman> for security issues
[05:06] <silvaran> EX0S: That's a dual-boot config... NTFS is still there, and accessible, but Linux can only read it, and can't be installed on it.
[05:06] <keishin> _jason, but gksu doesn't seem to work, and I'm unable to open several things in System>Administration
[05:06] <Madpilot> EX0S, you misunderstood that article, I think
[05:06] <_jason> keishin: gksudo synaptic, what happens?
[05:06] <Madpilot> !dualboot
[05:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:07] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Genious!
[05:07] <Madpilot> EX0S, have a look at the URL that ubotu just posted for you ^^^
[05:07] <keishin> _jason, synaptic opens fine
[05:07] <EX0S> System Recue doesnt work either
[05:07] <_jason> keishin: what is a program that doesn't work?
[05:07] <keishin> _jason, although it does error in the term
[05:07] <jdprc06> how do you log into root? I can't do it fromt the login screen
[05:07] <EX0S> it says invalid kernal image
[05:07] <EX0S> when i enter run_qtparted
[05:07] <Madpilot> jdprc06, you can't, graphical login as root is disabled
[05:07] <keishin> _jason,  Users and Groups for one
[05:07] <jdprc06> well i can't run synaptic without being the root
[05:08] <Madpilot> jdprc06, use sudo
[05:08] <jdprc06> ok
[05:08] <NickGarvey> !root
[05:08] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:08] <keishin> _jason, I get the Starting Users and Groups in the bottom bar there... thinks about it... then it goes away and never opens
[05:08] <javiolo> how can I see if my comp is blocking access to other lan comps ?
[05:08] <EX0S> System Recue doesnt work :(
[05:08] <Madpilot> jdprc06, System->Admin->Synaptic, when it asks for a password, enter your own user pw
[05:08] <silvaran> jdprc06: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager?
[05:08] <intelikey> jdprc06 or preferably  gksudo synaptic
[05:08] <Quinch> Quickie question, if I may; is there a way to set Ubuntu to turn on numlock at boot?
[05:08] <_jason> keishin: do you know the terminal command for something that doesn't work (I don't know it for users and groups)
[05:09] <Madpilot> Quinch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[05:09] <silvaran> !numlock
[05:09] <ubotu> numlock is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[05:09] <Quinch> Muchthanks.
[05:09] <jdprc06> i can't open manager. i just get a noise
[05:09] <silvaran> Madpilot: Wow, two in a row.
[05:09] <intelikey> Quinch sudo apt-get install numlock
[05:09] <keishin> _jason, No but I'm quite new.  Update Manager also doesn't work *tries a few others*
[05:09] <EX0S> Why does my System Recue will not work?
[05:10] <Xenguy> EX0S: negative aura :-)
[05:10] <Madpilot> jdprc06, are you logged in as the user you created during install?
[05:10] <EX0S> god i hate linux
[05:10] <jdprc06> yes
[05:10] <thrice`> hrm...I can't find mplayer in the repos, and I have the correct repos enabled (on dapper)
[05:10] <thrice`> any ideas?
[05:10] <tritium> EX0S: it's your system, not linux.
[05:10] <Xenguy> EX0S: yes you do
[05:10] <_jason> keishin: ok, gksudo update-manager
[05:10] <silvaran> !info mplayer dapper
[05:10] <ubotu> mplayer: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu5 (dapper), Packaged size: 3078 kB, Installed size: 7464 kB
[05:10] <silvaran> thrice`: Try multiverse?
[05:10] <keishin> _jason, that works.
[05:10] <EX0S> Federoa probably works
[05:11] <Madpilot> jdprc06, in a terminal, type "groups"
[05:11] <_jason> keishin: erm
[05:11] <sinblox> ok, I have a really newbie question -- I'm trying to download a .deb file and it's opening up automatically with the file-roller program - but it won't run it.
[05:11] <sinblox> What can I do?
[05:11] <sinblox> it says "archive type not supported"
[05:11] <tritium> sinblox: .debs are not executables.  You don't run them.
[05:11] <NickGarvey> sinblox: whats the name of the program? you might just be able to apt-get it
[05:11] <thrice`> hrm...is there an offical sources.list for dapper?
[05:11] <jdprc06> adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[05:11] <ITSa341> sinblox  right click save-as??
[05:11] <thrice`> that would be a dumb mistake heh
[05:11] <Xenguy> EX0S: you know that scene where Smith says "It's the SMELL!" ?  Well, it's the CAPS! ;P
[05:11] <tritium> thrice`: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[05:11] <sinblox> NickGarvey: it's calledamsn
[05:11] <rukuartic> EX0S: Nope. Imma bet you'd have the same problems.
[05:11] <_jason> keishin: how about users-admin, that seems to be users and groups
[05:11] <sinblox> I'll try save as
[05:12] <NickGarvey> sinblox: know what console is and how it works?
[05:12] <rukuartic> Right I'm out guys
[05:12] <rukuartic> g'nite
[05:12] <NickGarvey> night
[05:12] <sinblox> NickGarvey: Pretty much
[05:12] <keishin> _jason, errors in terminal, but opens
[05:12] <tritium> sinblox: it's available in the repositories
[05:12] <NickGarvey> open it
[05:12] <Madpilot> jdprc06, no "admin" on that list?
[05:12] <jdprc06> no
[05:12] <silvaran> thrice`: Just add multiverse to the end of the line for the main dapper repo
[05:12] <NickGarvey> sinblox: type "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[05:12] <ITSa341> I'm trying to install GNUstep Position http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/  When I run "make install" I get this error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10368 Can someone give me some insight into what I am doing wrong??
[05:12] <jdprc06> yes, the first is adm
[05:12] <intelikey> nice chap that EX0S,   just wares his emotions on his shirt sleve
[05:12] <NickGarvey> although sinblox, I would advise GAIM
[05:12] <_jason> keishin: probably just warnings... I have no idea why they work there and not in your menu
[05:12] <FunnyLookinHat> thrice`, You could also checkout easysource
[05:12] <sinblox> Nickgarvey/Tritium: I'll give that a try
[05:12] <Madpilot> jdprc06, just give me a moment, I'll be right back
[05:12] <sinblox> really?
[05:12] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell thrice` about easysource
[05:12] <jdprc06> ok thanks
[05:12] <keishin> _jason, Yeah, very odd.
[05:12] <sinblox> Maybe I should gave the new 2.00 beta of gaim a try
[05:13] <sinblox> to be honest I couldn't really figure out how to get the RPM files working so I didn't get that one working, haha.
[05:13] <keishin> _jason, though gksu definitely seems to not work.  Could that be part of it? =\
[05:13] <sinblox> I think it was because I wasn't running them like that
[05:13] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl
[05:13] <ITSa341> GAIM 2.0  sucks imho
[05:13] <_jason> keishin: afaik gksu is a gui frontend for su and su won't work because root is locked
[05:13] <sinblox> older version is better?
[05:13] <Inf3ctedFx> Question.. how can I update to drapper?? from Breezy?
[05:13] <FunnyLookinHat> ITSa341, Why do you say that?
[05:13] <silvaran> sinblox: Yeah, stick with the .debs
[05:13] <ITSa341> I prefer the default GAIM in Ubuntu
[05:13] <wastrel> ITSa341:  is there a readme file?  you probably have to run ./configure first or "make" first , before you make install
[05:14] <ITSa341> Funny   the gui is poorly setup
[05:14] <FunnyLookinHat> Inf3ctedFx, that question could be best answered in #ubuntu+1
[05:14] <thrice`> !dapper
[05:14] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[05:14] <keishin> _jason, Hrm. Okay.
[05:14] <silvaran> !upgrade
[05:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[05:14] <FunnyLookinHat> Inf3ctedFx, however, you can download cd ISOs or change your sources.list to upgrade.
[05:14] <_jason> tritium: yeah me too...
[05:14] <NickGarvey> sinblox: rpms won't work on ubuntu
[05:14] <silvaran> Inf3ctedFx: ^^
[05:14] <sinblox> Ohhh
[05:14] <ITSa341> wastrel  all they give for instructions is "make install" listed at the bottom of the Position page
[05:14] <Inf3ctedFx> thats what I want to do change the sources.list
[05:14] <tritium> sinblox: well, they _can_, with the use of alien, but you don't want to use them.
[05:14] <NickGarvey> sinblox: rpms are "red hat package managers"
[05:15] <FunnyLookinHat> Inf3ctedFx, they could tell you in #ubuntu+1 how to change it
[05:15] <sinblox> ah, now I feel silly for how I was trying to get a bunch of other programs to work
[05:15] <NickGarvey> sinblox: ubuntu is debian based not red hat
[05:15] <wastrel> ITSa341:  sec...
[05:15] <ITSa341> wastrel   thx
[05:15] <silvaran> ITSa341: I wouldn't know where to start with your issue, per se, but I would suggest not including spaces in any parent subdirectories... just in case.
[05:15] <NickGarvey> sinblox: I hear synaptic is very good although I know nothing about it
[05:15] <FunnyLookinHat> sinblox, NickGarvey , Synaptic is your BEST friend in ubuntu for new apps
[05:15] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell NickGarvey about synaptic
[05:16] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell sinblox about synaptic
[05:16] <ITSa341> silvaran  I already moved it to /home/myname/position to avoid spaces in folder names such as My Documents etc
[05:16] <NickGarvey> FunnyLookinHat: I don't use a GUI mich
[05:16] <tritium> FunnyLookinHat: except for aptitude ;)
[05:16] <NickGarvey> much*
[05:16] <silvaran> ITSa341: And no dice?
[05:16] <FunnyLookinHat> tritium, you windows-look-alike GUI sellout!!
[05:16] <FunnyLookinHat> ; )
[05:16] <ITSa341> same errors exactly
[05:16] <tritium> FunnyLookinHat: aptitude is a cli app
[05:16] <sinblox> I have a pretty good idea of how to use synapetic
[05:16] <sinblox> I think I should be sticking to that then
[05:16] <FunnyLookinHat> tritium, errr, I totally just read "Adept" instead of "aptitude"
[05:16] <FunnyLookinHat> lol
[05:17] <FunnyLookinHat> my bad.
[05:17] <tritium> heh
[05:17] <ITSa341> silvaran  I have been trying to figure this out for hours
[05:17] <fiveiron> ok #cedega is dead... can someone help me with a cedega problem though?  anyone using it?
[05:17] <intelikey> aptitude is like a pig with a bad atitude....  stinks and isn't any fun to be around
[05:17] <wastrel> ITSa341:  you have to compile it
[05:17] <FunnyLookinHat> sinblox, make sure you enable universe and multiverse repositories so you have access to 17000+ packages
[05:17] <sinblox> I shall. I appreciate all your helps guys!
[05:17] <wastrel> ITSa341:  there's a README in the PROJ.4 subdirectory
[05:17] <tritium> intelikey: you're silly
[05:17] <intelikey> ok
[05:18] <ITSa341> wastrel   ok I'll look again
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> sinblox, good luck!
[05:18] <ITSa341> wastrel  thx and bbiab
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> NickGarvey, ; )
[05:18] <Madpilot> jdprc06, you need to add your user to the admin group (not adm, but admin)
[05:19] <jdprc06> ok
[05:19] <jdprc06> how do i do that?
[05:19] <intelikey> but at any rate. dpkg is the package manager in ubuntu, and all else is just front/back/ends for dpkg.
[05:19] <NickGarvey> oo a new error
[05:19] <NickGarvey> thats good
[05:19] <Madpilot> jdprc06, you'll need to reboot, hit ESC during the boot to get the the Grub menu, and select the Recovery login
[05:19] <jdprc06> ok
[05:20] <Madpilot> jdprc06, then in that mode, type "adduser <username> admin" - with your current username in there, and no quotes. then type "shutdown -r now" to restart your machine
[05:20] <wastrel> ITSa341:  hmm actually that's just the projection sw, the Project makefile is referencing files that don't exist.  that's why you're getitng those errors.
[05:20] <ITSa341> wastrel  ok I already did that and compiled/installed Proj.4   just can't get the Position to install
[05:21] <jdprc06> ok
[05:21] <jdprc06> thanks
[05:21] <jdprc06> i'll get back on here if it doesn't work
[05:21] <Madpilot> jdprc06, might want to write some of that down - and good luck
[05:21] <WoC> medpilot, in grub, wouldn't know by any chance if there's an option to force vesa fb, or is vga16 a failback when vesa fails?
[05:21] <jdprc06> i did write it down
[05:21] <jdprc06> i'm not that much of a noob
[05:21] <Madpilot> jdprc06, good :P
[05:21] <wastrel> ITSa341:  i think you need to apt-get install gnustep-make
[05:21] <silvaran> jdprc06: Come back anyways and tell us even if it does :)
[05:22] <Madpilot> WoC, sorry, was that for me?
[05:22] <ITSa341> wastrel   been there done that
[05:22] <Lord_Maynoth> wow... I just found automatix... awesome stuff
[05:22] <jdprc06> ok
[05:22] <WoC> yes, sorry i made the typo in your nick
[05:22] <jdprc06> wish me luck
[05:22] <Madpilot> !tell Lord_Maynoth about automatix
[05:22] <wastrel> ITSa341:  sudo updatedb  then locate aggregate.make
[05:22] <ITSa341> Lord_Maynoth   be careful  automatix hosed my first Ubuntu install
[05:22] <coz> is there a difference between apt-get update and aptitude update?
[05:22] <Madpilot> WoC, I've got no idea, Grub's never broken on me so I know zip about it
[05:22] <Lord_Maynoth> it seems to work great
[05:23] <Mabus06> how do I find out my own local IP?
[05:23] <tritium> Lord_Maynoth: it's dangerous.  Check out easyubuntu instead.
[05:23] <silvaran> coz: Nope, aptitude supports those commands too just for convenience.
[05:23] <coz> ifconfig
[05:23] <WoC> ok, ty anyway Madpilot
[05:23] <intelikey> coz yes about a buck two ninty five
[05:23] <Lord_Maynoth> I just wish autopackage would catch on
[05:23] <coz> silvaran thanks so no difference at all?
[05:23] <intelikey> no
[05:23] <Lord_Maynoth> it would make software installation much easier
[05:23] <coz> Ok thanks
[05:23] <silvaran> coz: nope... but if you run aptitude on its own you get the console-based window interface...
[05:23] <FunnyLookinHat> I was so pissed off that slashdot posted that praise of Automatix today.  I made sure to comment that it sucked, no wonder it got moderated +5, lol
[05:23] <coz> becasue if there were it would have been toooo late aI already did aptitude upgrade
[05:23] <silvaran> Yeah, I thought automatix was the electronic equivalent of the dipping bird...?
[05:24] <tritium> Lord_Maynoth: there are problems with autopackage
[05:24] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, Exactly!
[05:24] <coz> tritium what problems
[05:24] <ITSa341> wastrel  doing that now I'll bbiab
[05:24] <Lord_Maynoth> works great on firefox 1.5, abiword, gaim 1.5 etc
[05:24] <Lord_Maynoth> never had a single problem
[05:24] <wastrel> ITSa341:  if you have those files it's yelling about you probably just need to set the GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES environment var to point to the directory they're in.
[05:24] <pianoboy3333> What is the command for finding out what space you have on your hardrive?
[05:25] <Lord_Maynoth> beats the heck out of waiting years to get current packages
[05:25] <tritium> Lord_Maynoth: a few examples don't prove that it's problem-free
[05:25] <WoC> pianoboy3333, df -h
[05:25] <_jason> pianoboy3333: df -h
[05:25] <silvaran> pianoboy3333: df
[05:25] <Xenguy> pianoboy3333: df
[05:25] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[05:25] <pianoboy3333> thx
[05:25] <WoC> ;] ] ] 
[05:25] <_jason> pianoboy3333: yes df :)
[05:26] <FunnyLookinHat> lol, and people claim that ubuntu users aren't uber |337...  just look at all that df -h action
[05:26] <ITSa341> wastrel  I think I have an idea what you just said.  Are you saying to edit the makefile to point to the actual location of those files if they are different than it expects?
[05:26] <Madpilot> df -h gives more readable results - the -h is "human readable" :P
[05:26] <WoC> lmao, good point FunnyLookinHat
[05:26] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: Only 5 responses out of 634 users :)
[05:26] <azadder> yup
[05:26] <azadder> ;)
[05:26] <ITSa341> wastrel  I am a relative newbie...but, at least I admit it
[05:26] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, half of which are idle...  so that ain't bad
[05:26] <silvaran> Yah :)...
[05:26] <FunnyLookinHat> plus I think that just shows they aren't high or something, realizing it had already been answered
[05:26] <wastrel> ITSa341:  do   export GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES=/path/to/the/files   then try the make install
[05:26] <intelikey> oh   df -ha
[05:27] <intelikey> now it's six
[05:27] <FunnyLookinHat> w00t
[05:27] <FunnyLookinHat> df -ha is kind of silly though
[05:27] <FunnyLookinHat> -h is all u really need
[05:28] <intelikey> not is you have mounted network drives
[05:28] <Robertech> how list the channels_
[05:28] <Robertech> ???
[05:28] <FunnyLookinHat> but I do have mounted network drives... and I still find it silly (I'd check on those servers if I wanted to see how full they were I suppose)
[05:28] <intelikey> -hlk  then FunnyLookinHat
[05:28] <WoC> /list
[05:28] <Kelsey23> "/list"
[05:28] <Robertech> ok thx
[05:29] <Lord_Maynoth> is it possible to have a 3rd party repository that actually has up to date packages for software like open office firefox etc?
[05:29] <WoC> np
[05:29] <FunnyLookinHat>  /list
[05:29] <silvaran> WoC: How you do that?
[05:29] <FunnyLookinHat> oh wait, 3 of us
[05:29] <WoC> /say /list
[05:29] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: It's not as technical a question.
[05:29] <FunnyLookinHat> we are not irc |337, only disc usage |337
[05:29] <silvaran> WoC: Ah.
[05:29] <WoC> yw [;
[05:29] <silvaran> Sliding down the slippery slope on the way to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:29] <intelikey> well i'm not going to advise /list   not on freenode
[05:30] <Kelsey23> Nope
[05:30] <Kelsey23> lol
[05:30] <Kelsey23> do that on Undernet
[05:30] <Kelsey23> lol
[05:30] <intelikey> there too
[05:30] <FunnyLookinHat> intelikey, it's better to /list here than on efnet or somethin
[05:30] <benplaut> what media players come with dapper?
[05:30] <Kelsey23> WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER
[05:30] <FunnyLookinHat> I advise you to use "startkeylogger" rather than /list
[05:30] <benplaut> i beleive i've uninstalled all of them :/
[05:30] <Ubugtu> Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
[05:30] <Kelsey23> (no, j/k)
[05:30] <intelikey> but there are smaller networks
[05:30] <silvaran> benplaut: totem, xine ...
[05:30] <benplaut> thanks
[05:31] <brownie17> can anyone tell me where i might get some new themes for the themed greeter login screen?
[05:31] <silvaran> brownie17: art.gnome.org ...
[05:31] <Kelsey23> ooo
[05:31] <FunnyLookinHat> m-00kie, how strong is your backbone??
[05:31] <FunnyLookinHat> DS3?
[05:31] <silvaran> brownie17: untar(gz|bz) into /usr/share/gdm/themes
[05:31] <thomas`> hey
[05:31] <thomas`> anyone here know anything about smb?
[05:31] <Kelsey23> m-00kie: They areny Unreal are they?
[05:31] <m-00kie> probably bigger - the girls all say its really big :)
[05:31] <vbhanu> natroll-, are you around?
[05:31] <_jason> brownie17: gnome-look.org as well
[05:32] <WoC> lol m-00kie ;] ] ] 
[05:32] <thomas`> i created a new account how do i setup smb to share with windows pc's on network also
[05:32] <Madpilot> !tell brownie17 about themes
[05:32] <thomas`> i messed with smb
[05:32] <jdprc06> i couldn't add my username to admin
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> thomas`, all you have to do is go to Places
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> Connect to Server
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> and type in the IP of the comp
[05:32] <_jason> jdprc06: what happened when you tried
[05:33] <Madpilot> jdprc06, did you get an error message?
[05:33] <jdprc06> it said that admin does not exists
[05:33] <thomas`> k
[05:33] <Madpilot> oh
[05:33] <jdprc06> there is no group called admin
[05:33] <ispiked> how user-friendly is the install cd's lvm partition maker? I'm going to be using lvm for the first time.
[05:33] <_jason> jdprc06: did you do an expert install?
[05:33] <intelikey> groupadd
[05:33] <FunnyLookinHat> ispiked, (very) user friendly.
[05:33] <jdprc06> yes, because i had already partitioned my drive
[05:33] <ispiked> FunnyLookinHat, cool. so it'll tell me what to do?
[05:33] <ITSa341> wastrel  have you ever tried Position or any other gps mapping software or street mapping software in Linux??  I am used to MS Streets and Trips but I really want to take MS off here. Not nearly as bad as when I was dual booting but I get nervous about running two OS's at the same time on the same filesystem
[05:33] <jdprc06> i didn't want it to destroy my windows partition
[05:33] <Quinch> Me again. Question; i seem to have screwed up my password. Is there a way to reset it?
[05:33] <_jason> jdprc06: so you have root access then?
[05:34] <tritium> jdprc06: it doesn't.  It can resize it easily.
[05:34] <jdprc06> i found that out
[05:34] <jdprc06> but i wasn't sure
[05:34] <wastrel> ITSa341:  i've never used gps on any os :] 
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> My PDA has GPS, that's more than enough
[05:34] <_jason> Quinch: boot in recovery mode and run 'passwd username'
[05:34] <devians> what misconfiguration with samba would cause a particular user account to not be able to login?
[05:34] <intelikey> Quinch yep.  as root  passwd <your,name>
[05:35] <kanid> is there any known reason why my usb mouse would work if it is plugged in before boot, but it I hotplug it, I get an error in dmesg like so: 1473:[4303186.414000]  hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[05:35] <ITSa341> FunnyLookinHat   I have no pda and even so a map on a 15in widescreen is easy to read at 70mph with just a glance
[05:35] <yggdrasil_> how can i install java and real player
[05:35] <intelikey> Quinch you may have to boot to single to get root access tho
[05:35] <_jason> jdprc06: do you know the root password?
[05:35] <jdprc06> yes
[05:35] <Quinch> _Jason, thanks. And Intelikey, that's what's puzzling me; I went to change my username {Quinch}, but now my root password doesn't seem to work either.
[05:35] <tritium> !tell yggdrasil_ about restricted
[05:35] <_jason> Ubugtu: tell jdprc06 about expert
[05:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell jdprc06 about expert
[05:36] <JoshRA> I know this is not a dapper channel but does anyone know what the following error message means?
[05:36] <yggdrasil_> thanks
[05:36] <JoshRA> [4295148.005000]  hdc: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x57  ascq: 0x00
[05:36] <JoshRA> [4295148.010000]  hdc: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x57  ascq: 0x00
[05:36] <kanid> !tell yggdrasil about easyubuntu
[05:36] <intelikey> Quinch you have a passwd set for root ?
[05:36] <FunnyLookinHat> ITSa341, I use audio for the directions if I need them...  I actually only use the PDA/GPS for backcountry hiking and whatnot
[05:36] <FunnyLookinHat> I don't believe in driving directions
[05:36] <Quinch> intelikey: Well, I think so. I used it routinely for installs and so forth.
[05:37] <ITSa341> FunnyLookinHat   cool, I use it daily for mapping service calls to remote locations in an area still pretty new to me.
[05:37] <intelikey> Quinch [alt] +[ctrl] +[F1]   login as root
[05:37] <silvaran> How many Beans do you need on ubuntuforums.org before you become Master Roaster?
[05:37] <jdprc06> alright thanks
[05:37] <jdprc06> let me try that
[05:37] <Jeffrae> E: Unable to find a source package for kernel-source-2.6.12
[05:38] <FunnyLookinHat> ITSa341, cool beans, yea lappys come in handy on the road, they sure do
[05:38] <Jeffrae> do I need to add another repository?
[05:38] <Quinch> intelikey: Hey, it does still work!
[05:38] <Madpilot> silvaran, I think that's a closely guarded secret :P
[05:38] <silvaran> Madpilot: Heheh :)
[05:38] <intelikey> Quinch see
[05:38] <tritium> Jeffrae: you want linux-source, not kernel-source
[05:38] <_jason> silvaran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134608&highlight=bean+count+status
[05:38] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:38] <Jeffrae> thanks
[05:38] <_jason> silvaran: the answer is 0 beans
[05:38] <Jeffrae> tritium, Thank!!
[05:38] <holobyted> how do I config the ubuntu updater to ignore linux-* packages? not interested in being nagged by "update your kernel" messages
[05:38] <intelikey> Quinch passwd Quinch
[05:38] <Jeffrae> I am trying to configure LIRC
[05:38] <NickGarvey> there is no documentation for this at all..
[05:38] <ITSa341> FunnyLookinHat   always remember, ALL flying J's truckstops I have ever been to have free wifi hotspots with excellent range for the truckers.
[05:38] <tritium> Jeffrae: apt-cache search linux-source to see all available
[05:38] <Jeffrae> and it requires some source
[05:39] <Quinch> intelikey: Yep, did that as soon as I realized I could.
[05:39] <silvaran> _jason: Thanks (Forum Staff, I get it ;)
[05:39] <intelikey> Quinch are you in admin group ?
[05:39] <intelikey> or do you use sudodo ?
[05:39] <Quinch> Intelikey: Yep. Anyway, thanks again, but I gotta bugger off to work.
[05:39] <FunnyLookinHat> ITSa341, oh really?  I will DEFINTELY keep that in mind!
[05:40] <lnx_> is there a way to see what desktop environments are included in the repositories?
[05:40] <ITSa341> FunnyLookinHat   I use them a lot
[05:40] <Jeffrae> at one time was it kernel-source?
[05:40] <cheesechoker> anyone know how i get rhythmbox to play "MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR"?
[05:40] <robert__> i dunno
[05:40] <Jeffrae> because I am following a little doc on ubuntu'
[05:40] <Jeffrae> s forums
[05:40] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell cheesechoker about restricted formats
[05:40] <Jeffrae> this is an old OLD doc
[05:40] <tritium> Jeffrae: no, those are debian sources
[05:40] <robert__> any one here use automatix
[05:40] <CaptainMorgan> after installing mscont, and truetype fonts.. Firefox still does not display fonts that are visible in Win's firefox.. any suggestions
[05:40] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[05:40] <FunnyLookinHat> robert__, NOO
[05:40] <FunnyLookinHat> robert__, Automatix is bad, use easysource
[05:40] <kruncher> where can i contact someone, or let the ubuntu team know that ive found a few problems?
[05:40] <FunnyLookinHat> !automatix
[05:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:41] <robert__> ok
[05:41] <lnx_> is there a way to see what desktop environments are in the repositories?
[05:41] <Jeffrae> Anyone here use LIRC by chance?
[05:41] <FunnyLookinHat> robert__, sorry, didn't mean to backlash, but slashdot has caused a bit of a problem
[05:41] <liquid> anyone here know how i can reboot / shutdown straight from within windowmaker? (ive tried inserting the "shutdown -r now" etc commands, without any response)
[05:41] <silvaran> lnx_: just off hand, xubuntu-desktop (xfce), kubuntu-desktop (kde), ubuntu-desktop (gnome)
[05:41] <lnx_> silvaran, i knew all those 3, i was wondering if there were any other
[05:41] <wastrel> !tell kruncher about bug
[05:41] <FunnyLookinHat> lnx_, there is anothre, I forgot what it is called though.. something like Everything or somethin like that
[05:42] <silvaran> lnx_: well there are window managers and stuff like fluxbox, fvwm, blackbox, etc..
[05:42] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: enlightenment ?
[05:42] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, that's it!
[05:42] <FunnyLookinHat> lol
[05:42] <_jason> lnx_: fluxbox, openbox, blackbox
[05:42] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: Yeah, I can't wait for dr17... of course, the last major release was october 2000 or something like that, so I'm not holding my breath for rasterman...
[05:42] <pizzadude> what is the minimal amount of disk space requiredto install ubuntu?
[05:42] <intelikey> lnx_ apt-cache search ?
[05:42] <_jason> lnx_: if you can call those ``desktop environments''
[05:43] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, hahaha.  I've decided that they should all just stick to either KDE or Gnome and stop making all these offshoots.  but that's a whole other debate
[05:43] <kanid> is there any known reason why my usb mouse would work if it is plugged in before boot, but it I hotplug it, I get an error in dmesg like so: 1473:[4303186.414000]  hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[05:43] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: Well that's the thing... a lot of the stuff that he's advocating (and writing) will soon be in the core X (Xgl/Xegl/aiglx)... having trouble with aiglx in dapper myself, need to wait until a few more people get exposed to it.
[05:44] <intelikey> yeah FunnyLookinHat we should all go back to windows where we came from, right ?
[05:44] <silvaran> kanid: Still??... that's nasty... I wish I could come up with even some ideas for you...
[05:44] <FunnyLookinHat> intelikey, OH DEAR LORD NO
[05:44] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, you said "he"... who are you referring to?  Linus?  Mark Shuttleworth?
[05:44] <intelikey> then maybe change is good ?
[05:44] <kanid> silvaran, yeah, I haven't had any luck at all
[05:44] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: rasterman
[05:44] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, ooho ok, i am reading it correctly now
[05:45] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: As long as I'm writing it correctly ;)
[05:45] <kanid> silvaran, I can't wait for xgl+dr17
[05:45] <FunnyLookinHat> intelikey, how can you interpret narrowing options down to either KDE or Gnome into "yay windows"?   lol
[05:45] <kanid> that'll look freakin hot
[05:45] <silvaran> kanid: I can't wait for stable eye candy.
[05:45] <kanid> true indeed
[05:45] <FunnyLookinHat> I can't wait for windows to die.
[05:45] <FunnyLookinHat> and microsoft to become a military nuclear waste dump facility.
[05:45] <kanid> FunnyLookinHat, it will never happen
[05:45] <ITSa341> lol
[05:45] <FunnyLookinHat> hmm, that was a bit harsh.
[05:45] <silvaran> I want Linux to have all the snappy stuff Vista will have before even Vista has it... wouldn't that be a slap in the face to satisfy many a personal vendetta? ;)
[05:46] <kanid> silvaran, it already does
[05:46] <FunnyLookinHat> wait...  LINUX DOES have all the snappy stuff that Vista has
[05:46] <oranged> hello
[05:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Did anyone read that top 10 reasons to switch to vista from XP articile on yahoo or something?
[05:46] <kanid> silvaran, from what I've seen, Vista isn't that hot
[05:46] <FunnyLookinHat> They were all things linux had already done.
[05:46] <oranged> has anyone had a problem with usb mass storage since the last kernel update?
[05:46] <silvaran> kanid: Yeah, I know... it's got a vew nice-looking stuff that don't quite work well enough in xgl/aiglx...
[05:46] <kanid> silvaran, and definitely _not_ stable
[05:46] <FunnyLookinHat> kanid, you're right.  it's not.    it's just another bloated yet useless release
[05:47] <ITSa341> silvaran  just remember, almost everything MS has in Windows was stolen or bought from someone else and then bloated by MS so if ya look at it that way...it's all old news anyway
[05:47] <intelikey> simple FunnyLookinHat M$ wants to narrow options.  i.e.  everyone us that stuff.      but the more options you have other os's  other desktops    other apps  the better the software gets.  and many good codes are made better.
[05:47] <silvaran> kanid: Or able to run on a sub-$3000 computer... anyways, OT, anybody need help who's getting smothered?
[05:47] <FunnyLookinHat> intelikey, I'm only narrowing to two environments though, and only for one "OS" (Gnu/Linux)... simply because developers have a tendency to not think well when creating and they all just go off on tangents.
[05:48] <thomas`> how can i setup my ubuntu to share on network with windows pc's also on my network
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> How to startx on a different display?
[05:48] <FunnyLookinHat> It's simply the way programmers work when they are project leaders, they are disorganized.
[05:48] <silvaran> kanid: Just thought of something... there are 3 main usb modules... uhci, ohci and ehci or something like that... maybe try one at a time and blacklist the others until you get one that works?
[05:48] <FunnyLookinHat> I'm a programmer, and I admit to it myself
[05:48] <kanid> yeah, I'm smothered all right....
[05:48] <thomas`> i wanna share some files from linux
[05:48] <silvaran> Heheh
[05:48] <Madpilot> FunnyLookinHat & co - #ubuntu-offtopic is nice and quiet :P
[05:48] <mathew> does anyone know whether we need an internet connection to install Ubuntu with Install CD?
[05:48] <kanid> silvaran, I'll give it a shot, can't hurt I suppose
[05:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Madpilot, yea, sorry.
[05:48] <V4Vendetta> is it safe to install the newest gnome on breezy?
[05:49] <FunnyLookinHat> mathew, you don't need one, but updates are good to have, esp security updates
[05:49] <ITSa341> mathew   no
[05:49] <azadder> p2p linux app in the synaptic package manager?
[05:49] <silvaran> azadder: amule/xmule, gnutella ...
[05:49] <Madpilot> azadder, BitTorrent is installed by default
[05:49] <Madpilot> !p2p
[05:49] <ubotu> I heard p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[05:49] <FunnyLookinHat> azadder, try searching Gnutella?
[05:49] <laura> Hello
[05:49] <azadder> thank you guys
[05:50] <thomas`> its not showing up on my windows pc i tried connecting to ip it does ask fora pw and username what could that be
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> Like what would happen from System > New Login, but I want to start it from another tty with the specific start command, specifying the second graphical display.  How?
[05:50] <shukhrat> hello all
[05:50] <oranged> could anyone tell me why the sd card in my camera and a little mp3 player are giving me 'invalid format' errors since the last kernel update?
[05:51] <intelikey> mathew if that box is never going to be 'online' then ubuntu is not a good choice of distro's  you would be better with something that you can get the full package tree on disk
[05:51] <oranged> for some reason automount doesn't try to use vfat
[05:51] <jdprc06> it worked
[05:51] <intelikey> oranged it uses what is in /etc/fstab doesn't it ?
[05:52] <shukhrat> i would like open FTP access for my folder
[05:52] <regeya> iirc ubuntuforums has a 'no warez' policy, aye?
[05:52] <Madpilot> regeya, I'm sure they do - why?
[05:53] <oranged> intelikey, i don't have either setup in fstab.. automount used to take care of it
[05:53] <intelikey> you can get all the warez you want at 127.0.0.1
[05:53] <mathew> thnaks
[05:53] <oranged> intelikey, both in fact, until the last kernel came around
[05:53] <mathew> thanks
[05:53] <tritium> regeya: all ubuntu-related sites should
[05:53] <shukhrat> how to open FTP access
[05:53] <Madpilot> jdprc06, the groupadd thing worked?
[05:53] <jdprc06> yea
[05:53] <jdprc06> i got my updates
[05:54] <NickGarvey> shukhrat: I don't understand
[05:54] <V4Vendetta> it's always best to compile from source isn't it?
[05:54] <intelikey> oranged ok.  i don't know about automount, sorry.    but you could check that vfat module is loaded
[05:54] <thomas`> can someone help me with samba please...
[05:54] <Madpilot> tritium, is the whole 'recover sudo w/ groupadd etc' thing on our wiki somewhere?
[05:54] <NickGarvey> !samba
[05:54] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:54] <oranged> intelikey, its loaded.. ;) that is what is confusing
[05:54] <shukhrat> NickGarvey i would like open FTP access for my folder
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> V4Vendetta: If you enjoy that sort of thing...
[05:54] <jdprc06> but i restarted and now i can't run synaptic
[05:54] <tritium> Madpilot: I doubt it
[05:54] <invisiblekid> whats the problem thomas`
[05:54] <NickGarvey> shukhrat: want to start an FTP server then eh?
[05:54] <FunnyLookinHat> V4Vendetta, no, not necessarily.  compiling from source usually yields little or no performance benefit to many pre-compiled options and simply takes up time
[05:55] <shukhrat> how create FTP service
[05:55] <V4Vendetta> tonyyarusso, i do
[05:55] <intelikey> hmmm idk oranged
[05:55] <tritium> V4Vendetta: "best"?  Depends on one's needs.
[05:55] <shukhrat> NickGarvey: Yes
[05:55] <invisiblekid> i just actually set up an ftp for the first time, its very easy
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> V4Vendetta: Then go for it I guess.  I personally quite enjoy apt-get, but hey, that's me.
[05:55] <NickGarvey> shukhrat: as invisiblekid, its pretty easy, I use vsftpd
[05:55] <V4Vendetta> tonyyarusso, source is fun some times
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> V4Vendetta: Could be I suppose.
[05:55] <V4Vendetta> tonyyarusso, especially with checkinstal
[05:55] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, there are few gains from wasting that time. Don't get into the Gentoo mindset.
[05:56] <Madpilot> tritium, want to add it somewhere? I barely know the procedure, and it would be a useful resource - it seems to be a common install/config error
[05:56] <invisiblekid> i used proftpd
[05:56] <FunnyLookinHat> YukiCuss, well put!  gentoo is for script kiddies!
[05:56] <V4Vendetta> YukiCuss, i always prefer more hands on approaches
[05:56] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, moreover, you sacrifice package management.
[05:56] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: I went from redhat->lfs->rolloing my own with RPM->gentoo->ubuntu ... I'm quite happy now
[05:56] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, so do I. Who doesn't? This isn't a `hands on' approach; you'll just frustrate yourself.
[05:56] <intelikey> i like gentoo ok.  i installed gentoo with apt-get install gentoo    :)
[05:56] <kanid> FunnyLookinHat, script kiddies?
[05:56] <YukiCuss> FunnyLookinHat, :) I tried it once. No no no no not going back.
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> hmm, maybe ubotu can define them
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> !scriptkiddies
[05:57] <ubotu> FunnyLookinHat: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:57] <tritium> V4Vendetta: you can apt-get source, and build from source packages
[05:57] <YukiCuss> Bah.
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> A script kiddie is just some kid that thinks he's ultra cool because he can run a bash script
[05:57] <V4Vendetta> tritium, i like getting new source from source forge
[05:57] <michael> how can I use chmod for a folder and everything inside of it?
[05:57] <kanid> FunnyLookinHat, I know what they are, but I highly doubt any script kiddies would enjoy ubuntu
[05:57] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: or worst yet, vbscript
[05:57] <kanid> err gentoo
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> michael: -R
[05:57] <NickGarvey> !vnc
[05:57] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, http://www.lfs.org/ <-- maybe this is for you. :)
[05:57] <ubotu> vnc is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> kanid, that's why I said gentoo is for script kidddies
[05:57] <michael> ty
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> kanid, not ubuntu
[05:57] <silvaran> michael: be careful with that...
[05:57] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, wait, wrong link.
[05:57] <shukhrat> NickGarvey: I downloding vsftpd
[05:57] <michael> why?
[05:57] <V4Vendetta> dunno what lfs is
[05:57] <kanid> FunnyLookinHat, I know what they are, but I highly doubt any script kiddies would enjoy gentoo
[05:58] <invisiblekid> is dapper supposed to have better support for broadcom wireless laptop cards?
[05:58] <silvaran> michael: find <path_to_folder> -type d | xargs chmod 0755 (for dirs)
[05:58] <kanid> there is too much work involved
[05:58] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ <-- *this*.
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> michael: That's true.  What folder?  (Don't want to muck up permissions on system files)
[05:58] <silvaran> michael: find <path_to_folder> -type f | xargs chmod 0644 (for files)
[05:58] <FunnyLookinHat> kanid, they LOVE it!!  it's like the absolute script kiddie dist.
[05:58] <V4Vendetta> i like synaptic for updates
[05:58] <V4Vendetta> but not for programs
[05:58] <tritium> yes, invisiblekid
[05:58] <invisiblekid> :)
[05:58] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, that makes no sense. Synaptic only updates programs you install via it.
[05:58] <michael> my home folder, i put some backup off of a cd onto it
[05:58] <NickGarvey> apt-get for me
[05:58] <mochas> guys, can someone help me? my amsn doesnt work after i installed Xgl, i read a lot of forums and did all the solutions they wrote but still cant run it :S
[05:58] <V4Vendetta> YukiCuss, not true
[05:58] <FunnyLookinHat> kanid, they think they're uber |337 becuase they type "emerge" , the dont even know about ./configure make make install heh
[05:58] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, it won't magically update things you install from source.
[05:59] <wastrel> #ubuntu-offtopic for script kiddie/gentoo talk :] 
[05:59] <silvaran> invisiblekid: I don't find it does... the new oss broadcom driver is experimental, I had better luck with ndiswrapper and blacklisting the new module.
[05:59] <shukhrat> NickGarvey: it say could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[05:59] <V4Vendetta> YukiCuss, sure it does..
[05:59] <kanid> FunnyLookinHat, script kiddies know _nothing_ about the scripts they are using, while gentooers generally know a little something about what they're doing
[05:59] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, ...
[05:59] <kanid> sometimes
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> mochas: Xgl's Dapper, right?  Check in #ubuntu+1.
[05:59] <tritium> #ubuntu-xgl as well
[05:59] <invisiblekid> ive tried ndiswrapper a few times with mine, but i just cant seem to get it working
[05:59] <silvaran> tritium: I find it's usually pretty quiet in there.
[05:59] <V4Vendetta> YukiCuss, it does update all installed programs
[05:59] <Madpilot> kanid & FunnyLookinHat - #ubuntu-offtopic is still quiet - thanks
[05:59] <tritium> silvaran: yeah, probably
[05:59] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, if you install manually from source, it doesn't *know* where to find updates for them, or that they even exist.
[05:59] <FunnyLookinHat> kanid, yea, you're right.
[05:59] <shukhrat> NickGarvey: it say could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[05:59] <silvaran> I hope aiglx gets more attention, for therestofus... without nvidia/ati cards.
[05:59] <michael> what's wrong with this? ->    $ chmod -R /home/michael
[06:00] <V4Vendetta> YukiCuss, i dunno.. i know i installed gnormalize from source and it updated it before
[06:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Madpilot, sorry to burst your bubble.  but I'm here mostly to offer support, chat tend to ge toff topic sometimes.
[06:00] <intelikey> michael no name
[06:00] <silvaran> michael: Depending on what the chmod does, you could wipe out the +x on dirs and not be able to access them anymore.
[06:00] <mochas> tonyyarusso, yep... im in that channel too but i get no answer there
[06:00] <YukiCuss> V4Vendetta, if you never touched synaptic or apt-get, it won't update it for you. Perhaps it updated itself somehow.
[06:00] <intelikey> chmod -R michael:michael /home/michael
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> mochas: Ah, 'k.  Did you see tritium's too?
[06:00] <kanid> Madpilot, sry, not much help here, so I figured I'd chat about something else while waiting
[06:00] <silvaran> intelikey: chown
[06:00] <michael> o
[06:00] <YukiCuss> michael, what are you actually trying to do?
[06:00] <intelikey> on mod
[06:00] <intelikey> read own
[06:01] <kanid> Madpilot, are you willing/able to assist?
[06:01] <mochas> tonyyarusso, negative, is that another channel?
[06:01] <michael> i put some backup folders onto my computer from a cd, but they all get copied as protected
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> mochas: Yeah, #ubuntu-xgl - I guess it's been separated.
[06:01] <YukiCuss> michael, if you want them to be yours, do a chown -R michael /home/wherever
[06:01] <michael> I can change one or a few at a time, but i have too many folders to want to do them 1 at a time
[06:01] <silvaran> michael: chmod -R u+w <path_to_dir>
[06:02] <YukiCuss> michael, if you want write access, chmod -R u+w /home/watever
[06:02] <intelikey> michael chmod -R +<something> (or) -<something> /home/michael
[06:02] <michael> k, ty
[06:02] <YukiCuss> intelikey, that's unsafe.
[06:02] <mochas> tonyyarusso, ooh yea, Xgl-ubuntu, im on that channel too and no answer also hehe :(
[06:03] <michael> michael@mlustfield:~$ chmod -R michael:michael /home/michael
[06:03] <michael> chmod: invalid mode string: `michael:michael'
[06:03] <YukiCuss> michael, chown**
[06:03] <V4Vendetta> somone help me with this ? http://pastebin.com/606878
[06:03] <intelikey> YukiCuss i think no.   it's a lot safer than a number is.
[06:03] <YukiCuss> intelikey, no, it should be `u+w' or `o-w'.
[06:03] <YukiCuss> Don't grant world access for no reason.
[06:04] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: what prompted the install of both libfame and libfame0?
[06:04] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, transcode i believe
[06:04] <intelikey> YukiCuss -rxw grants what ?
[06:04] <regeya> w00t
[06:04] <YukiCuss> intelikey, denies acecss to read/execute/write to everyone.
[06:04] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: Do you know what package needs libfame0?
[06:04] <YukiCuss> intelikey, what's your point? Doing `chmod -R +w /home/michael' would make *everything* in his home world writable.
[06:04] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, dvdrip: and transcode i believe
[06:05] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: There are two separate ones... try apt-get remove libfame0 ...
[06:05] <kanid> writable _by everyone_
[06:05] <YukiCuss> (hence `world' writable)
[06:05] <keishin> I've been looking around in the help.ubuntu.com samba guides, but I can't find how to share a drive (NTFS) with write permission.  Help?
[06:05] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, http://pastebin.com/606879
[06:05] <wastrel> keishin:  linux can't write to NTFS
[06:05] <silvaran> keishin: You can't write to NTFS from Linux.. well, you can, but for all intents and purposes, you can't.
[06:05] <NickGarvey> !ntfs
[06:05] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:06] <kanid> YukiCuss, hehe I read it 'home world'
[06:06] <kanid> heh
[06:06] <YukiCuss> aah.
[06:06] <keishin> errr...
[06:06] <keishin> Well... shit.
[06:06] <kanid> there was I line break on my end
[06:06] <wastrel> chmod 700
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> How to startx on a different display?
[06:06] <tritium> keishin: language please
[06:06] <YukiCuss> wastrel, ... o_o
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Like what would happen from System > New Login, but I want to start it from another tty with the specific start command, specifying the second graphical display.  How?
[06:06] <intelikey> YukiCuss you are right,  i don't play with letters in chmod much  only numbers.       thought single entry affected like single number.... my bad.
[06:06] <keishin> Sorry -_-
[06:06] <ITSa341> wastrel   well, that sure changed the error messages a bit  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10373
[06:06] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: you must be on dapper, right?
[06:06] <V4Vendetta> no
[06:06] <NickGarvey> when you write to NTFS you just need to make the file exactly the same size as it was before right
[06:06] <YukiCuss> intelikey, aah, no. the numbers are actually quite easy to understand :)
[06:06] <keishin> So uh... something completely different to try, or back to windows I go?
[06:06] <silvaran> tonyyarusso: startx -- :1
[06:07] <wd3> i want to auto mount my vfat, the instruction say to edit my /etc/fstab how?
[06:07] <intelikey> yeah i do numbers YukiCuss
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> silvaran: 'k, thanks.
[06:07] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, i cant' seem to get rid of this error ..
[06:07] <NickGarvey> !fstab
[06:07] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[06:07] <AngryElf> !lirc
[06:07] <YukiCuss> intelikey, *oh*.
[06:07] <ubotu> [lirc]  at http://www.lirc.org
[06:07] <YukiCuss> intelikey, I read that backwards. >< my bad.
[06:07] <keishin> I would reformat the drives, but I've sorta already got a few hundred gigs that I can't exactly shuffle while I do it
[06:07] <intelikey> :)
[06:07] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: If you are on dapper, then apt-get remove gstreamer-0.8-fame libfame0
[06:07] <AngryElf> has anybody here used irrecord to create their own lirc.conf file??
[06:07] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, i'm not
[06:07] <wastrel> ITSa341:  yeah that's different- now you're getting build errors, congratulations :] 
[06:08] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, do it anyway ?
[06:08] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: That's really weird... must be a bug in breezy then.
[06:08] <frank23> anybody heard about this? there will be a free legal way to distribute mp3 support in gstreamer: http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html
[06:08] <tritium> frank23: did you see the release date on that?
[06:08] <ITSa341> wastrel   where would you start? reinstall gcc?
[06:08] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: Well, if you can live without fame support in gstreamer (I'd say try it), then remove gstreamer0.8-fame and libfame0, then proceed.
[06:08] <cafuego> frank23: yes, the integer arithmetic based based one is not patented
[06:08] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, says i don't have them
[06:09] <wastrel> ITSa341:  that seems to be an objective C something or other... you prolly need objc libs & stuff.
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Anyone used XPDE?  (I know, I know, ... it's a curiousity issue only)
[06:09] <_jason> ITSa341: don't use make install, use checkinstall (this has nothing to do with your problem though)
[06:09] <frank23> tritium: yeah. it's not new
[06:09] <_jason> ITSa341: did you install build-essential?
[06:09] <wastrel> ITSa341:  try installing gobjc-4.0
[06:09] <frank23> cafuego: is the problem performance?
[06:09] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: You don't have gstreamer0.8-fame ? ... I thought your second pastebin indicated you did.
[06:09] <cafuego> frank23: Not on today's hardware
[06:09] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, says i don't have it
[06:09] <ITSa341> _jason  I had to install build-essential a ago
[06:09] <cafuego> frank23: Although it does eat more cpu than the float arith one
[06:10] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: What about the apt-get -f install ?
[06:10] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, doesn't work
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> silvaran: So I'm actually trying /usr/share/xpde/bin/startxpde -- :1, and I got "xpde: cannot connect to X server" - any thoughts on that?
[06:10] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: Let that clear out, then do your package selection again.
[06:10] <frank23> cafuego: but why wouldn't ubuntu use it for example?
[06:10] <silvaran> tonyyarusso: xpde? ... I thought you said startx
[06:10] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: Does apt-get -f install give you errors?
[06:10] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, it's all about libfame-0.9 som,e how, but i can't get rid of it
[06:11] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, come to a channel with me?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> silvaran: Yeah, I thought it would be a fairly general form, so I thought I'd ask that way.
[06:11] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: dpkg -P libfame-0.9
[06:11] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: Sure, /msg if you're registered
[06:11] <cafuego> frank23: gstreamer-mad does do mp3
[06:11] <qpxxpq> How do I install KDE on a freshinstall of Ubuntu?
[06:11] <V4Vendetta> how do i open a window on xchat?
[06:11] <cafuego> (afaik)
[06:12] <silvaran> tonyyarusso: Nah, startx has its own set of params... "cannot connect to X server" would mean there's no xserver running, or it's looking for the wrong one... try "DISPLAY=:0" startxpde
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> qpxxpq: sudo apt-get install {kubuntu-desktop,kde,kdebase} <-- depending on your preference for amount of it
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> silvaran: Okay.
[06:12] <frank23> cafuego: yes but it can't be included in the standard distribution. (I don't know why) would the other one qualify?
[06:13] <qpxxpq> tonyyarusso: I want the whole kit-n-kaboodle w/ KDE
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> qpxxpq: Then kubuntu-desktop
[06:13] <holobyted> how do I config the ubuntu updater to ignore linux-* packages? not interested in being nagged by "update your kernel" messages
[06:13] <qpxxpq> I've already done 'apt-get install kde-core' but I dont think that is it
[06:13] <wd3> how do i update breezy to current
[06:13] <wastrel> breezy is current
[06:13] <qpxxpq> tonyyaruss: Downloading now, thx. :)
[06:14] <wd3> wastrel im sorry i have 5.10 isn't there a new one?
[06:14] <qpxxpq> tonyyarusso: Would the next step be 'sudo dpkg -i kubuntu-desktop' ?
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> silvaran: Bash complained about command not found for DISPLAY
[06:14] <wastrel> wd3:  next release is called dapper, it's still in testing
[06:14] <michael> I used '$ chown -R michael:michael /home/michael
[06:14] <michael> ' but it didn't add write abilities
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> qpxxpq: Nope.  The next step would be to return to your login screen, click "Sessions", select KDE, and log in.
[06:15] <wd3> wastrel i thought it was a 5.12 or 5.16 or something, is that the dapper?
[06:15] <qpxxpq> tonyyarusso: Oh, so it retreives the KDE software AND installs it at the sametime with the apt-get install ?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> qpxxpq: Correct.  Isn't apt sweet like that?
[06:15] <wastrel> wd3:  5.10 is breezy, the current release (october 2005,  5.10)   dapper is going to be 6.something
[06:15] <jldugger> question: does ubuntu make popcon data publicly available?
[06:16] <qpxxpq> tonyyarusso: Very :D. I was looking at Debian but my laptop and Debian don't mix well. So I went to ubuntu.
[06:16] <Whatsisname> what is popcorn data?
[06:16] <ITSa341> wastrel  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10375
[06:16] <jldugger> pop-con
[06:16] <jldugger> popularity contest
[06:16] <ITSa341> wastrel I must be making progress  LOL  the error messages keep changing
[06:16] <frank23> if dapper isn't released in april, will it still be 6.04?
[06:16] <silvaran> tonyyarusso: It shouldn't... a line by itself, no quotes?
[06:17] <DJ_Tobias> are there any c programming rooms on this server?
[06:17] <intelikey> well only good way to chmod home is with some code,   like   find /home/user -type f -exec chmod 640 "{}" \;      so you don't break subdirs.  but that is kinda hap-hazard also.   one could   chmod 640 /home/user -R ; find /home/user -type d -exec chmod 750 "{}" \;      would maybe be better depending on a few things, like what they wanted and if they had any executable code in /home ....
[06:17] <michael> How can I set the privleges of a directory and everything inside of it into 777
[06:17] <qpxxpq> intelikey: I just got a headache reading that.
[06:17] <YukiCuss> michael, don't use 777
[06:17] <qpxxpq> intelikey: (I'm a noob ;P)
[06:17] <wd3> wastrel thanks. i want to automount my 2nd hd vfat, i mounted it manually, to automount it said to edit /etc/fstab how do i use the editor?
[06:17] <YukiCuss> michael, use 755 or 644
[06:17] <michael> why?
[06:18] <Xenguy> /a/b
[06:18] <Xenguy> bah
[06:18] <YukiCuss> michael, 777 grants access to EVERYONE.
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> silvaran: I think the quotes were the problem.  How do I first start an X server for that display?  I want it on :1, just to check it out (Gnome is already up on :0).
[06:18] <Whatsisname> damn POS autogen
[06:18] <wastrel> ITSa341:  see now it's getting difficult.  you set up the build environment (installed gnumake, pointed at the makefile directory, installed objc compiler) but these are either coding errors or libary version mismatch problems or something...   i don't know how to help you further.
[06:18] <YukiCuss> michael, 755 or 644 doesn't include write access to people who aren't you.
[06:18] <michael> ok, how do I do that?
[06:18] <silvaran> tonyyarusso: startx -- :1
[06:18] <intelikey> michael  also of note (read my post up there ^)  dirs have to be exec
[06:18] <ITSa341> wastrel   thanks for all the help you have already given me
[06:18] <Whatsisname> these freedesktop packages are a damn pain in the ass
[06:18] <michael> exec??
[06:19] <wd3> wastrel how do i use the editor to edit the /etc/fstab?
[06:19] <intelikey> yes.  executable
[06:19] <wastrel> ITSa341:  check the mailing list or contact the author of the program :] 
[06:19] <vejan> how can I mount an external fat16 HD in ubuntu using USB enclosure
[06:19] <michael> o
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> silvaran: But that starts up Gnome and everything.
[06:19] <michael> how do i do that to all of them though, 755 sounds good
[06:19] <wastrel> wd3:  first save a copy of /etc/fstab  in case you mess it up.   then  sudo nano /etc/fstab
[06:19] <Xenguy> wd3: gedit (gui); nano (command-line)
[06:20] <fabian> anyone who speak spanish
[06:20] <fabian> ?
[06:20] <silvaran> tonyyarusso: Well, you could always run bare X, by just doing 'X :1 &' (no quotes)
[06:20] <Jeffrae> why would something only be available as source when going in synaptic?
[06:20] <silvaran> !es
[06:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:20] <intelikey> michael  try    -->    chmod 640 /home/user -R ; find /home/user -type d -exec chmod 750 "{}" \;
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> silvaran: Okay.
[06:20] <Jeffrae> I notices lirc-modules is only in source
[06:20] <_jason> ITSa341: what is it you are compiling?
[06:20] <intelikey> where user is you
[06:20] <wd3> wastrel thanks
[06:20] <michael> do i put the ; at the end?
[06:20] <intelikey> yep
[06:20] <vanscorpion> hello
[06:20] <ITSa341> _jason "Position"  it's a gps enabled mapping and routing program
[06:21] <qpxxpq> Is there a downside to using 'nano' ?
[06:21] <YukiCuss> qpxxpq, it's not as cool as vim. :)
[06:21] <_jason> ITSa341: I see
[06:21] <wastrel> qpxxpq:  it can be more difficult to understand than gedit
[06:21] <ITSa341> _jason http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/
[06:21] <Xenguy> qpxxpq: what do you mean?
[06:21] <intelikey> if you want world readable michael  change the  zero to  four
[06:21] <YukiCuss> qpxxpq, seriously though, you can't get around in it as fast as vim. vim is rather powerful.
[06:21] <qpxxpq> Xenguy: What is the best text editor?
[06:21] <michael> michael@mlustfield:~$ sudo chmod 640 /home/michael -R ; find /home/michael -type d -exec chmod 750 "{}" \;
[06:21] <michael> find: cannot get current directory: Permission denied
[06:22] <intelikey> if you want world readable michael  change the  zero to  four     last zero to five
[06:22] <wd3> wastrel i did the sudo nano /etc/fstab, how do i save the file, there's no save as
[06:22] <Xenguy> qpxxpq: for what purpose?  I use Vim
[06:22] <YukiCuss> yay Xenguy :)
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> silvaran: Works!
[06:22] <qpxxpq> Xenguy: All purposes?
[06:22] <Xenguy> YukiCuss: vim is an adventure :-)
[06:22] <ITSa341> -jason  I got the gps unit installed and working but I hate gpsdrive.  the user interface sucks compared to MS Streets and Trips and Position was recommended to me as being even better than the MS version
[06:22] <silvaran> tonyyarusso: Good stuff..
[06:22] <michael> why don't i have permission?
[06:22] <YukiCuss> Xenguy, at least a thousand times better than emacs. o_O
[06:23] <Xenguy> qpxxpq: pretty much; steep learning curve for 3 months, then many rewards :-)
[06:23] <intelikey> michael why don't you own the stuff in your home ?
[06:23] <wastrel> wd3:  sorry i don't actually use nano :]   vi guy myself
[06:23] <YukiCuss> wd3, ctrl+o
[06:23] <qpxxpq> Is Vi diff from Vim?
[06:23] <Xenguy> YukiCuss: heh
[06:23] <ads__> i need some help please :)
[06:23] <intelikey> no permission cause you don't own it michael
[06:23] <YukiCuss> qpxxpq, vi is an old version of vim.
[06:23] <YukiCuss> or rather, vim is a new vi.
[06:23] <silvaran> michael: The first chmod makes your home directory 640, which is -rw-r----- ... your home directory HAS to be +x in order to read it.
[06:23] <wastrel> qpxxpq:  not on ubuntu
[06:23] <Xenguy> qpxxpq: vim is 'VI Improved'
[06:23] <silvaran> michael: sudo chmod 0700 /home/michael
[06:24] <Xenguy> qpxxpq: er, iMproved
[06:24] <ads__> does anyone know how i can permanently remove a process? I'm trying to kill gam_server but it keeps coming back
[06:24] <michael> idk, i can change them just fine if I right click and change it in the permission tab
[06:24] <YukiCuss> Xenguy, vim reports it as `Vi IMproved'
[06:24] <wastrel> good lord you're still trying to chmod this directory?
[06:24] <Xenguy> YukiCuss: sure enough
[06:24] <jbroome> hahah
[06:24] <intelikey> which brings us full circle to what i said the first time you asked michael  ---> sudo chown -R michael:michael /home/michael
[06:24] <qpxxpq> It appears that KDE that is on Debian is different from that of what I just loaded into unbuntu
[06:24] <intelikey> own yout home
[06:25] <intelikey> own your home
[06:25] <s|k> what do I do with a bz2 file?
[06:25] <silvaran> michael: Are you too good for your home?
[06:25] <silvaran> s|k: Is it .bz2 or .tar.bz2 ?
[06:25] <s|k> .tar.bz2
[06:25] <michael> what the hell, now I can't access my home directory anymore
[06:25] <silvaran> s|k: tar jxf whatever.tar.bz2
[06:25] <ads__> does anyone know how i can permanently remove a process? I'm trying to kill gam_server but it keeps coming back
[06:26] <silvaran> michael: Did you do the sudo chmod 0700 /home/michael ?
[06:26] <s|k> silvaran: thanks
[06:26] <silvaran> Who's idea was it to start the recursive chmod from the guy's home directory??
[06:26] <qpxxpq> Is there a way to get the exact same KDE that is in Debian into the Ubuntu KDE?
[06:26] <Xenguy> !services
[06:26] <charly> hello every body
[06:27] <ubotu> [services]  to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/
[06:27] <silvaran> qpxxpq: It's likely that it's only a different theme .. can someone back me up/correct me on this?
[06:27] <intelikey> michael  are you  "michael" ?       whoami
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> qpxxpq,  hmmm...  proberly not easially
[06:27] <frank23> Ads_ if you're trying to get rid of the memory leak, I updated gam to a newer version using a debian unstable repository
[06:27] <michael> i did 'sudo chown -R michael:michael /home/michael' and it killed my access to my home folder
[06:27] <Xenguy> silvaran: what's the question?
[06:27] <qpxxpq> silvaran: It seems that there were a lot more programs in the debian KDE
[06:27] <ads__> frank23 how do i go about doing that..sorry am not that advanced with ubuntu yet
[06:28] <intelikey> then you must not be michael
[06:28] <Xenguy> silvaran: nm
[06:28] <cowamongcows> is it possible to create a partition that i can install windows xp on and dual boot, without erasing my current ubuntu files?
[06:28] <michael> i did 'sudo chmod 0700 /home/michael' and now it doesn't deny me, but it won't open
[06:28] <michael> whoami
[06:28] <silvaran> Xenguy: qpxxpq wants to know if he can get the same kde in ubuntu that he had in debian
[06:28] <michael> \whoami
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> qpxxpq,  apt-get install the programs ya want.
[06:28] <qpxxpq> Dr_Willis: Not sure which ones there were, but there a vast amount more
[06:28] <cowamongcows> right now i only have the ubuntu OS on the computer, i wanna make it dual boot to XP
[06:28] <silvaran> michael: "whoami" from the prompt
[06:28] <frank23> ads__: is the memory usage the problem you have? do you know how to add a source?
[06:28] <silvaran> michael: not the chat window
[06:28] <Xenguy> qpxxpq: yeah, /msg ubotu kde
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> qpxxpq,  a vast # of ones that you never used. :P
[06:29] <michael> michael@mlustfield:~$ whoami
[06:29] <michael> michael
[06:29] <michael> michael@mlustfield:~$
[06:29] <qpxxpq> Dr_Willis: Never got that far into it :D
[06:29] <wastrel> qpxxpq:  ubuntu doesn't use the debian menu system afaik, so apps don't automagically update into the kde menus like they do in debian (some do)
[06:29] <mathew> One more question - is it necessary to have a network card to install with the Install CD. My NIC & Internet will be up later but I want install Ubuntu now to check it out.
[06:29] <wastrel> qpxxpq:  or you may just have to install stuff as you want it
[06:29] <michael> i'm the only person that uses this computer
[06:29] <qpxxpq> =(
[06:29] <ads__> frank23: yes the memory useage problem is what i have, i'm not sure about adding a source.....i may have done something like that before but don't know the method by name
[06:29] <silvaran> michael: OK let's fix some perms... find /home/michael -type d -exec chmod 700 "{}" \;
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> qpxxpq,  debian often has a lot of packages dependiogn on what repos you have added.  Ive never noticed any imporntant ones that were not allready in ubuntu.
[06:30] <wastrel> qpxxpq:  go shopping in synaptic for stuff that looks interesting :] 
[06:30] <michael> can I do 755?
[06:30] <silvaran> ubotu: tell qpxxpq about repos
[06:30] <qpxxpq> Where is synaptic?
[06:30] <jldugger> Whatsisname, http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[06:30] <silvaran> michael: Yup ...
[06:30] <frank23> ads__: in synaptics go to manage repositories and add a new source (custom source) I can give you the deb line
[06:30] <silvaran> michael: Go for it...
[06:30] <ads__> frank23: ok just a second
[06:30] <silvaran> michael: Since you're the only one who uses the computer... if it was multi-user, you'd then do a chmod 0700 /home/michael to prevent other people from accessing your home.
[06:31] <michael> ok, that's working now
[06:31] <michael> dang, i thought this whole thing was going to be simple - thanks
[06:31] <wastrel> heh
[06:31] <frank23> ads__: now it's very important that you delete that source after you update gam.
[06:31] <ads__> frank23: ok i am in synaptic
[06:31] <silvaran> michael: It was going to be simple.  Too many people with too much knowledge.  We need some more newbies in here :)
[06:31] <qpxxpq> wastrel: Where is synaptic?
[06:32] <s|k> I'm getting this error: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[06:32] <michael> lol
[06:32] <s|k> what am I missing?
[06:32] <qpxxpq> silvaran: I'm noobie enough for ALL of you :D
[06:32] <silvaran> Heheh
[06:32] <wastrel> qpxxpq:  it's in the gnome menu - dunno about kde.  you could sudo synaptic @ the command line to open it
[06:32] <qpxxpq> wastrel: Is there a hot-key to bring up the terminal?
[06:32] <silvaran> qpxxpq: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager ... then type your user password.
[06:32] <dansan> is there a place in the installation where I can set my hdb1 and hdb2 to be mounted?
[06:32] <frank23> ads__: did you find the add custom source thing?
[06:33] <wastrel> qpxxpq:  dunno for KDE - alt-f2 in gnome brings up a "run" dialog
[06:33] <silvaran> qpxxpq, wastrel: Same for KDE.
[06:33] <qpxxpq> silvaran: There is no 'administraton' folder
[06:33] <ads__> frank23: no i didn't there's only a custom button but not add custom source........
[06:33] <sergio_> hello, does anybodu knows the equivalent form in ubuntu 5.10 of the restore in windows?
[06:33] <dansan> I saw the partitioner come up, but there was no place to define mount points for other hdds
[06:33] <silvaran> qpxxpq: That's because you're on KDE, and I didn't realize that until wastrel mentioned it :)
[06:33] <frank23> ads__: yeah that's the one
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> 'restore' ?
[06:33] <s|k> silvaran: do you know what I might be missing?
[06:33] <ads__> frank23: k i've click it
[06:34] <qpxxpq> F2 -> Sudo synaptic works
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> You mean the system/Regiestry restore?
[06:34] <frank23> ads__: deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/debian/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib  paste that in
[06:34] <silvaran> s|k: where are you getting this error exactly?
[06:34] <charly> sergio do you speak spanish???
[06:34] <jldugger> sergio_, "restore" as in undelete, or as in "fix my broken computer"?
[06:34] <s|k> silvaran: I'm configuring a new version of rhythmbox
[06:34] <s|k> and it's not configuring
[06:34] <silvaran> s|k: Oh you're building it yourself?
[06:34] <s|k> silvaran: yes I want the audioscrobbler plugin
[06:35] <frank23> ads__: then click reload, search for gamin and upgrade it
[06:35] <silvaran> s|k: Be prepared to install another 100 packages for the build: "sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox"
[06:35] <s|k> silvaran: 100 plus that one?
[06:35] <mathew> Has anybody used the Dlink DWL-G520 with 5.10? Does it detected automatically when you install with the install CD?
[06:35] <sergio_> jldugger: for take the computer to it's original form, exactly after you install ubuntu, with that configuration
[06:35] <silvaran> s|k: That will install everything you need to build rhythmbox, according to ubuntu's repository (ie: it'll download all the packages the maintainer used to build rhythmbox)...
[06:35] <frank23> ads__: I think it should upgrade 3 packages total
[06:36] <ads__> frank23: ok
[06:36] <frank23> ads__: make sure you don't upgrade the whole system
[06:36] <silvaran> s|k: Something like that, just see what I said about apt-get build-dep above, and run that... everything's automatic, but the package list can be dizzying :)
[06:36] <ads__> frank23: ok i'll try
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> mathew, best place to check for that would be ubuntuforums.org  but my guess would be that it does automatically work, as does most wireless and wired network hardware
[06:36] <silvaran> mathew: wireless right?
[06:37] <s|k> silvaran: thanks
[06:37] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: I thought only a few wireless cards work "out of the box" -- that you still need to do a win32 binary driver install a la ndiswrapper
[06:37] <mathew> SILVARAN: yes, it is a wireless card.
[06:37] <frank23> ads__: did it work?
[06:37] <s|k> why isn't my text editor opening now
[06:37] <s|k> :(
[06:37] <dle> Hi.  Anyone run a Siemens SpeedStream ADSL modem under Linux?  With USB rather than ethernet?
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, I've had great luck with several different wireless cards, so maybe it's just me?
[06:38] <ads__> frank23: yes it did
[06:38] <silvaran> mathew: It's possible that it'll work... I'm not sure about the chipset, you'd need to google for it to see if it's supported OSS by Linux -- which is the only way it's going to work right off the bat without further configuration.
[06:38] <esc_ape> ubuntu rules
[06:38] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: It might just be a coincidence... some ARE supported... I've yet to come across one personally that's supported, but I'm aware that they ARE out there and they're popular... I'm probably the isolated one :)
[06:38] <s|k> silvaran: it says Build-Depends dependency for rhythmbox cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libdbus-glib-1-dev can satisfy version requirements
[06:39] <ads__> frank23: thanks a lot man it seems fine now :)
[06:39] <frank23> ads__: great now remove the repository I gave you (or at least disable it) in principle you should only use ubuntu sources but for this it's ok
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, best luck happens with Intel based wireless chipsets
[06:39] <ads__> frank23: ok man :)
[06:39] <silvaran> s|k: breezy or dapper?
[06:39] <s|k> silvaran: breezy
[06:39] <frank23> ads__: no problem ;)
[06:39] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: Strange you say that, I found the i810 (video) driver had good hardware support too, for an OSS card... must be Intel then.  I've got an nforce-based mobo on my laptop with a broadcom wireless chip...
[06:40] <mathew> SILVARAN: chipset on Atheros for sures? Any idea?
[06:40] <ads__> frank23: :) do you think you can help me with one more problem dude?
[06:40] <frank23> ads__: oh and kill gam_server once more to restart it
[06:40] <ads__> frank23: i've done that :)P
[06:40] <Mabus06> can you set your ssh server to listen on a different port than 22?
[06:40] <frank23> ads__: if I can
[06:40] <silvaran> s|k: hang on
[06:40] <kassandra> greetings everyone, I have the strangest problem ever that my elite friend couldn't help me fix
[06:40] <s|k> okay
[06:40] <Whatsisname> Mabus06, absolutely
[06:40] <Whatsisname> edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:40] <YukiCuss> Mabus06, see /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:40] <dansan> Mabus06, yeah
[06:40] <intelikey> Mabus06 that ^
[06:40] <V4Vendetta> can somone tell me why beep media player loses it's settings each time i close it?
[06:41] <Whatsisname> V4Vendetta, do you have write permissions on the configuration file
[06:41] <silvaran> mathew: Yup, it should be supported.
[06:41] <kassandra> anytime an application launches it crashes immediatly for some reason
[06:41] <FunnyLookinHat> kassandra, type out your problem and maybe someone knows the fix?
[06:41] <silvaran> s|k: Can you run "sudo apt-get update" and try the "sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox" again?
[06:41] <ads__> frank23: ok , well basically when booting up ubuntu it gets stuck on "setting up LVM volume groups" for about a minute then resumes loading ubutnu.....any ideas?
[06:41] <Whatsisname> V4Vendetta, if you ever ran it as root using sudo, you probably don't
[06:41] <s|k> silvaran: okay
[06:41] <V4Vendetta> Whatsisname, ?
[06:41] <kassandra> i can't get back to my desktop after reboot because the login screen won't load, all i see is a spinning cursor
[06:42] <V4Vendetta> Whatsisname, i never ran it as root
[06:42] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: besides that issue, is beep any good?  I haven't tried it in ages.
[06:42] <Xenostalgia> <-- is qdxxqm
[06:42] <frank23> ads__: if you're not using lvm (you're probably not) you can disable the service completely
[06:42] <Whatsisname> well
[06:42] <Whatsisname> try deleting ~/.bmp
[06:42] <mathew> SILVARAN: Thanks. I will try to install tonight. Do you think that I can install this without internet as I need to setup WPA after the install?
[06:42] <FunnyLookinHat> kassandra, wow, stumped me, hopefully someone else in here knows how to fix that.
[06:42] <s|k> silvaran: same thing :(
[06:42] <Whatsisname> then rerunning beep
[06:42] <kassandra> i've no idea whats wrong :(
[06:42] <Whatsisname> either that or chowning it to you
[06:42] <ads__> frank23: ok what is lvm? secondly how would i disable it?
[06:42] <silvaran> mathew: If you have the install disc, it'll get you up and running without needing internet access during the install.
[06:43] <kassandra> i was installing cairo and some other things and everything was working fine
[06:43] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, yea it is, i just needed to 777 the config file, it sounds much better then xmms
[06:43] <kassandra> and then all the sudden i noticed firefox was refusing to start
[06:43] <Whatsisname> mm cairo
[06:43] <wastrel> what's cairo?
[06:43] <Whatsisname> i just built cairo a couple minutes ago
[06:43] <silvaran> s|k: sudo apt-get install intltool and then try configure again
[06:43] <kassandra> annd i couldn't make new terminal windows
[06:43] <Xenostalgia> ://
[06:43] <Xenostalgia> Xenostalgia
[06:43] <Whatsisname> wastrel, its some kind of rendering engine
[06:43] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: 777?  it needs to be executable and writable by everyone?
[06:43] <Whatsisname> or something like that
[06:43] <kassandra> i tried reboot and the login window won't start either
[06:43] <frank23> ads__: lvm=logical volume management. It's to handle partitions differently I think. to disable it ummm
[06:43] <intelikey> kassandra what does    cat .xsession-errors    tell you the reason is ?
[06:44] <mathew> SILVARAN: Thanks, Yes I got the install downloaded & brunt on a CD to try tonight. Thanks a lot for your answers.
[06:44] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, nah, but i always just go 777
[06:44] <kassandra> no idea, i'm a umm, 6 hour linux veteran lol
[06:44] <silvaran> mathew: Not a problem, good luck, and enjoy.
[06:44] <intelikey> oh no login window.
[06:44] <kassandra> can I run that at terminal?
[06:44] <Xenostalgia> :\
[06:44] <gt24> Question about /home and alike during install.  Should I create different partitions for them during install or not (for the purposes of backups in case of needing to reinstall the OS)?
[06:44] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: Dangerous... you might want to do 666 at the very most for something like a config file.
[06:44] <intelikey> yes
[06:44] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, okay, i'll look into it
[06:44] <kassandra> okay
[06:44] <silvaran> gt24: It's up to you... I do, but it's a personal preference for the most part.
[06:44] <kassandra> ill give it a try
[06:45] <frank23> how do you disable a service ? rc-update something but I don't remember
[06:45] <intelikey> but if youare not getting to the gui login that wont help us
[06:45] <gt24> If I do reinstall the OS, will it destroy all data in the partition that the OS is installing to?
[06:45] <silvaran> frank23: update-rc.d -f <servicename> remove
[06:45] <kassandra> i am getting a gui login
[06:45] <esc_ape> is there a guide for setting up a separate /home partition?
[06:45] <kassandra> i see a spinning cursor and brown background
[06:45] <kassandra> but gnome doesn't seem to start to get me to the login window
[06:45] <silvaran> gt24: Yeah, it's generally a good idea to format that partition.. so if you expect you'll be reinstalling later, separate out /home
[06:45] <intelikey> kassandra ok look in    cat .xsession-errors
[06:46] <silvaran> !partition
[06:46] <ubotu> silvaran: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:46] <kassandra> okay, brb
[06:46] <s|k> silvaran: it says I need libgnomeui-2.0, is that safe to try it with apt-get?
[06:46] <frank23> ads__: I guess it would be  sudo update-rc.d -f lvm remove
[06:46] <silvaran> s|k: "libgnomeui-dev"
[06:46] <s|k> okay
[06:47] <ads__> frank23: ok i will try it
[06:47] <gt24> During install (since I never separated /home), do I tell the installer about /home or would that just cause it to reformat the /home partition?
[06:47] <dansan> gt24 what do you mean by "do I tell the installer about home?"
[06:47] <dansan> do you have home in a diff drive? diff partition?
[06:47] <silvaran> Those partitioning guides on the wiki are pretty useless.
[06:48] <wastrel> gt24:  if you don't have a separate /home partition and you repartition your drive, you'll erase /home along with everything else
[06:48] <silvaran> gt24: Go ahead and tell the installer about home, make sure the "format" option is OFF or it'll format /home too.  Otherwise, it'll just mount it for you.
[06:48] <Whatsisname> hmm
[06:48] <gt24> silvaran: Ok, that was what I ment
[06:48] <dansan> that's assuming that you want to put /home somewhere else
[06:49] <gt24> How large should /home be, compared to / ?
[06:49] <Whatsisname> uh oh I hope I don't blow up my computer
[06:49] <wastrel> /home is generally "everything else" after a reasonable / patition is allocated.
[06:49] <ads__> frank32: btw after u gave me the link to that respository to fix the gamin problem ....i was notified of updates for my system, should i have ignored that?
[06:49] <kassandra> okay back
[06:50] <silvaran> gt24: ... and a reasonable "/" is probably 4-8 gigs... how big is your hd?
[06:50] <dansan> wastrel, define "reasonable /"
[06:50] <frank23> ads__: yes. did you?
[06:50] <silvaran> Err, at least 8 gigs, rather... some of those packages take up a lot of space in the cache.
[06:50] <ads__> frank32: yes i did
[06:50] <wastrel> dansan:  what silvaran said :] 
[06:50] <gt24> I have a 14 Gb hole for Linux at the moment...
[06:50] <frank23> ads__: good. If you updated then, you would now be a proud debian user
[06:50] <silvaran> gt24: How much RAM?
[06:51] <gt24> 1 Gb
[06:51] <Jay_R> if I change my BIOS setting IOAPIC to disable ubuntu breezy will not boot why?
[06:51] <phar0e> ubuntu won't see my VT8251 chipset SATA controller >< anyone know if the kernel in the next release of ubuntu will support it?
[06:51] <ads__> frank32: lmfao, i see thanks for the heads up
[06:51] <pinpoint> can anyone recommend ftp clients that come close flashfxp for win32?
[06:51] <frank23> ads__: no prob :)
[06:51] <phar0e> pinpoint: SmartFTP
[06:51] <silvaran> gt24: Whew... okay, you don't really have _all that much_ space, so let's go with no swap, 7 gig "/" and 7 gig "/home"
[06:51] <pinpoint> phar0e: for ubuntu ofcourse
[06:52] <kassandra> gnome cups icon 4980 : warning PP  request failed with status 1030
[06:52] <phar0e> pinpoint: you said for win32!
[06:52] <silvaran> I hate telling people "no swap", but the guy's got 1 gig of RAM... if he had 512MB I'd have said 512MB swap, which is the same thing only slower, right? ;)
[06:52] <Phlosten> howdy all
[06:52] <pinpoint> flashxp in win32* erm
[06:52] <gt24> I could try to scrape up more space... I just need to resize a few partitions....  darn hungry Windows
[06:52] <dansan> "no swap" eh? never heard that one before
[06:52] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, I have two gigs of ram... does that mean I can remove swap  ;)
[06:52] <wastrel> my / is about 4GB currently
[06:53] <frank23> silvaran: why no swap? I have 1 gig ram and 2 gigs swap
[06:53] <silvaran> frank23: Do you ever use the swap?
[06:53] <phar0e> I have one large partition, 1.2Terabytes /
[06:53] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: And same question to you :)
[06:53] <dansan> mine is about 4GB also
[06:53] <Xenguy> FunnyLookinHat: I've heard it's always good to have swap
[06:53] <gt24> I could perhaps add 10 Gb to that (total 24 Gb then), for the install, if needed
[06:53] <gt24> I would need to resize a partition to do that
[06:53] <FunnyLookinHat> silvaran, Xenguy , althought it's always good to have swap, you really don't need it with more ram.  The more ram you have, the less swap you really need, I'd say 512 is minimum though
[06:53] <silvaran> gt24: Yeah, then you could use 1gb of swap to make the other people in the channel happy.
[06:53] <frank23> silvaran: if I start swapping, it means I have something that is using way too much ram. what happens if you run out of ram and have no swap?
[06:53] <dansan> 14GB should be more than enough
[06:54] <silvaran> FunnyLookinHat: THANK you...
[06:54] <kanid> silvaran, any idea why ehci_hcd is still loading even though it's in /etc/modprobe/blacklist?
[06:54] <gt24> silvaran: :)
[06:54] <Xenguy> FunnyLookinHat: suit yourself :-)
[06:54] <silvaran> kanid: Did you prefix ehci_hcd with the "blacklist" keyword when you put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?
[06:54] <s|k> silvaran: yay after about 10 more packages I had to find it finally configured :)
[06:54] <kanid> yeah
[06:54] <kassandra> intelikey?
[06:54] <kassandra> gnome cups icon 4980 : warning PP  request failed with status 1030
[06:55] <intelikey> kassandra ok, try this in the console, and then try to login to gnome again after;         sudo rm .*auth*          i'm betting you just installed something following a wiki that said to run  'sudo nautilus'   it should be 'gksudo nautilus'   or what ever app it was..
[06:55] <fr33mind> What is the best for torrent files?
[06:55] <silvaran> gt24: Everybody gets so wrapped up with swap... I have a server at work with 4 gigs of ram and 2 gigs of swap... even though it's a database server and otherwise multi-purpose server, the swap space is the least-touched area on the drive... it doesn't need it.
[06:55] <ads__> !cli
[06:55] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[06:55] <gt24> Does /home need to be a linux native partition, or can it be FAT32 (to allow Windows XP to read it), or should I go another direction to make it readable to Windows XP?
[06:55] <silvaran> s|k: Good stuff... I wish build-dep had worked though...
[06:55] <kassandra> okay, ill give that a try and see if it cleans up the insta-crash problem
[06:55] <silvaran> kanid: I wonder if hotplug has a similar facility.. I wish I knew...
[06:55] <s|k> silvaran: all the stuff I had to find had the ubuntu icon on it in synaptic
[06:56] <s|k> wow that make is taking forever
[06:56] <s|k> :/
[06:56] <dansan> !swap
[06:56] <ubotu> swap is, like, used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[06:56] <silvaran> s|k: Yeah, but I don't think it installs (the -dev stuff) by default... does anyone know if there's a general "ubuntu-dev" package or anything?
[06:57] <silvaran> I had a whole rebuttal message typed up for ubotu and then realized... whoops... he's not a person.
[06:57] <s|k> haha
[06:57] <ads__> frank32: i have to go now, i jut wanted to say that i really am greatful for the help you have provided and have appreciated your guidance...thanks again :)
[06:57] <gt24> heh
[06:57] <silvaran> !botsnack
[06:57] <ubotu> :)
[06:57] <Whatsisname> ahhh fixed
[06:57] <frank23> ads__: np. hope disabling that service helped
[06:57] <s|k> wow this make is taking a while, I'm afraid the power might go out during one of these 'make''s one day
[06:57] <fr33mind> gt24: It's not a good idea to have /home in fat32...  I think should be some problems with perms...
[06:57] <s|k> how would you fix it
[06:58] <ads__> frank32: hope so :) cya around
[06:58] <V4Vendetta> !smlib
[06:58] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, V4Vendetta
[06:58] <silvaran> s|k: Not sure how easy it is to set up with ubuntu, but have you considered ccache? (or better yet, buying a UPS?) :)
[06:58] <V4Vendetta> i need smlib but i can't find it anywhere
[06:58] <silvaran> !ups
[06:58] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, silvaran
[06:58] <linuxpoet> Does anyone see anything wrong with the iwconfig output
[06:58] <linuxpoet> http://pastebin.com/606917
[06:58] <fr33mind> gt24: mount another partition for fat32...
[06:58] <s|k> silvaran: I have a UPS, but you know, imagine if I didn't
[06:58] <s|k> what happens? :P
[06:58] <kassandra> still no change
[06:58] <dansan> s|k wait till you try gentoo
[06:58] <pinpoint> no gftp
[06:58] <V4Vendetta> pinpoint, gftp
[06:58] <V4Vendetta> ah
[06:58] <silvaran> s|k: Be glad you're not compiling OpenOffice.org
[06:58] <fr33mind> gt24: there are some drivers in windows to be able to read reiser or ext3 partitions..
[06:58] <kanid> silvaran, do you have any suggestions as to where I can go to find out more?
[06:59] <fr33mind> gt24: google for it ;)
[06:59] <kassandra> I havn't done anything aith nautilus to the best of my knowledge
[06:59] <kanid> silvaran, anyone I might be able to talk to
[06:59] <gt24> fr33mind: I might just go that route
[06:59] <silvaran> kanid: Google for the error messages... rather than looking for the SOLUTION, look for the PROBLEM, and you'll end up with a whole bunch of links to the problem... and some of those links will lead to the solution ;)...
[06:59] <silvaran> kanid: Try to find people with the same, or similar, problem... that's the best advice I have I guess ;)
[06:59] <kassandra> afaik i've installed cairo, updated some things for it, and compiled a theme for cairo clearlooks that my friend made
[06:59] <kanid> silvaran, that's how I got here....
[06:59] <techrush> www.google.com/linux
[07:00] <s|k> silvaran: the make finished, and I started rhythmbox and it's still the old version
[07:00] <kanid> heh
[07:00] <silvaran> s|k: where did it install to?
[07:00] <s|k> er
[07:00] <s|k> I just
[07:00] <gt24> One last question... USB drives... would Linux have problems reading/writing to them?  I thought I heard that Linux didn't do this too well (it never gets around to actually writing the file to the drive, etc)
[07:00] <s|k> typed make?
[07:00] <silvaran> s|k: How did you run ./configure?
[07:00] <s|k> just ./configure
[07:00] <fr33mind> gt24: but a good way should be to let your /home in linux but, make a mount on /home/user/win on a  fat32
[07:00] <silvaran> kanid: Sorry dude...
[07:00] <silvaran> s|k: OK, so now if you were to do a "sudo make install", you'd end up installing rhythmbox into /usr/local/
[07:01] <fr33mind> gt24: I don't have any problems with usb drive.
[07:01] <s|k> silvaran: I should do that now?
[07:01] <kassandra> any ideas intelikey?
[07:01] <silvaran> s|k: From there, you could try "/usr/local/bin/rhythmbox", and hopefully it'll work... I just kind of hoped you knew what you were doing WRT going out and compiling apps on your own :)
[07:01] <silvaran> s|k: Sure, give 'er a shot.
[07:01] <gt24> fr33mind: can you clarify what you mean by /home/user/win?
[07:01] <s|k> silvaran: what did I just do?
[07:01] <kanid> silvaran, thanks for your help though, you've helped a bunch
[07:01] <s|k> silvaran: can I undo it if it's bad?
[07:01] <silvaran> kanid: I hope I have, best of luck..
[07:01] <silvaran> s|k: hmm... do this "make -n uninstall" and see what happens.
[07:01] <dtothep> anyone have an exact date of the dapper release?
[07:01] <dansan> "undo" usually means find all reelevant files and rm them
[07:01] <s|k> k
[07:02] <silvaran> What's up with google.com/linux ?  What's it for exactly?
[07:02] <fr33mind> gt24: mkdir /home/gt24/win and mount a fat32 partition in it.
[07:02] <thrice`> dtothep, it was to be april 20, but I think it'll be delayed
[07:02] <YukiCuss> silvaran, it might just be a normal search with `linux' in it.
[07:02] <kanid> silvaran, do you knwo of anyway to do all of the hardware detection/module loading stuff without rebooting
[07:02] <s|k> silvaran: it did a bunch of stuff :P
[07:02] <dtothep> aww
[07:02] <silvaran> dtothep: Probably until June
[07:02] <gt24> dtothep: I believe it is going to be June 1st... it was in the news recently...
[07:02] <thrice`> no...
[07:02] <kassandra> =\
[07:02] <thrice`> it was april 20, and Mark proposed waiting 6 weeks
[07:02] <intelikey> kassandra lets see if it is local configs or if you have really hosed something,   sudo adduser test     and set a simple password when prompted for it.   then try to login as test and see if gnome can start,   if so it is a local config/lockfile/theme or the like.   if not you have hosed it pretty good.
[07:02] <thrice`> so...sometime after :)
[07:03] <silvaran> kanid: Something to do with hotplug, I'm sure, but I doubt it will actually unload modules for you... "man modprobe" to see if you can unload modules, and their dependant modules too.
[07:03] <fr33mind> What people use for bit torrent files??
[07:03] <gt24> fr33mind: So, essentially, it would just be a custom mount point?
[07:03] <kanid> k
[07:03] <kassandra> okay
[07:03] <Mr_Congeniality> http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8640/mirconwine0yu.png <---HAWT!!!
[07:03] <dansan> !azzuerus
[07:03] <ubotu> dansan: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:03] <fr33mind> gt24: why not?
[07:03] <silvaran> s|k: OK, which means that "uninstall" is a valid target for the Makefile.  This then means that once you install it (into /usr/local, where it won't muck up the rest of the system), you should be safe to "make uninstall" from within the source directory (don't delete it!!) to uninstall it if it doesn't work.
[07:03] <dansan> !azuerus
[07:03] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dansan
[07:03] <silvaran> s|k: No guarantees though... rhythmbox integrates with GNOME, and it might have a hard time doing that installed in /usr/local ...
[07:03] <gt24> fr33mind: Ok, that makes sense.  :)
[07:03] <thrice`> !azureus
[07:04] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[07:04] <fr33mind> gt24: that way, config files and files need only in linux won't be available to windows ;)
[07:04] <silvaran> s|k: Strange though, have you considered finding another way of installing the audioscrobbler plugin without rebuilding rhythmbox?
[07:04] <dansan> there we go, that one :) for bittorrents
[07:04] <fr33mind> gt24: put only real shared files on the share partition
[07:04] <bringin> hiiiiiiii
[07:04] <s|k> silvaran: yes but it runs from a shell and not very well
[07:04] <silvaran> s|k: What runs from a shell?
[07:04] <gt24> fr33mind: Ah, makes sense
[07:04] <dansan> I can't spell worth c*ap tonight
[07:04] <s|k> silvaran: the audioscrobbler plugin
[07:04] <silvaran> s|k: That's a little odd... last.fm right?
[07:05] <s|k> silvaran: yes
[07:05] <fr33mind> beurk, Java... sucks
[07:05] <fr33mind> :p
[07:05] <gt24> dtothep: I confirmed it at digg (well, if that is a confirmation), June 1st for Dapper
[07:05] <bringin> hiiiiiiii
[07:05] <s|k> silvaran: I don't understand what you meant by this:
[07:05] <frank23> dansan: fr33mind that way of installing azureus is not good. the autoupdater won't be able to work. I think it's better to install as a user in /home
[07:05] <s|k> silvaran | s|k: OK, which means that "uninstall" is a valid target for the Makefile.  This then means that once you install it (into /usr/local, where it won't muck up the rest of the system), you should be safe to "make uninstall" from within the source directory (don't delete it!!) to uninstall it if it doesn't work.
[07:05] <silvaran> s|k: What prompted you to try rebuilding rhythmbox to get the audioscrobbler plugin?  Did last.fm point you to it, or does rhythmbox source come packaged with the plugin?
[07:05] <dansan> wish they ported uTorrent to linux
[07:06] <silvaran> s|k: Once you "sudo make install", you can then "sudo make uninstall" to undo it.
[07:06] <s|k> silvaran: someone told me that the new version comes with audioscrobbler pluggied in
[07:06] <wastrel> juicy
[07:06] <silvaran> dansan: Me too... utorrent rocks...
[07:06] <silvaran> s|k: Do you have an exact version number?
[07:06] <s|k> 9.3
[07:06] <gt24> Thanks for the help everybody.
[07:06] <s|k> 0.9.3*
[07:06] <silvaran> right... hang on
[07:06] <s|k> I currently have 0.9.1
[07:07] <fr33mind> freeloader and gui-bitornado are simplistik app...
[07:07] <silvaran> s|k: What version do you have?
[07:07] <s|k> I currently have 0.9.1
[07:07] <michael> just curious... I made a backup of my music files using Roxio Create, is there any any way of getting them back w/o using a windows emulator?
[07:08] <silvaran> !info rhythmbox
[07:08] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 1565 kB, Installed size: 4724 kB
[07:08] <silvaran> !info rhythmbox dapper
[07:08] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1756 kB, Installed size: 6328 kB
[07:08] <silvaran> s|k: So if breezy has 0.9.0, how did you get 0.9.1?
[07:08] <kassandra> gnome does not start automatically when logging in as test
[07:08] <s|k> silvaran: I don't know, I don't think ubotu is right
[07:08] <dtothep> !info dvdrip
[07:08] <ubotu> dvdrip: (perl front end for transcode), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:0.52.5-0.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 365 kB, Installed size: 1656 kB
[07:08] <silvaran> Thanks ubotu :)
[07:08] <Whatsisname> maybe he built it from source
[07:08] <kassandra> it may already be running if i'm seeing my spinning cursor
[07:08] <dtothep> i like ubotu :)
[07:08] <silvaran> Whatsisname: That's what he's doing now...
[07:08] <Whatsisname> oh
[07:08] <intelikey> that's not a good sign kassandra
[07:09] <kassandra> i would think so anyways
[07:09] <kassandra> hmm
[07:09] <kassandra> oh dear
[07:09] <silvaran> s|k: Maybe if you're eager enough to compile from source, you're daring enough to try Dapper just to get the audioscrobbler functionality :)
[07:09] <maximiliano> han provado dsniff?
[07:09] <maximiliano> hi
[07:09] <s|k> silvaran: I don't know, how stable is it? I use ubuntu as my main os
[07:09] <silvaran> !info rhythmbox breezy-backports
[07:09] <kassandra> mybe 4th time's the charm, this is my 3rd install of ubuntu, first to actually complete installing
[07:09] <Whatsisname> why not just build a few packages rather than risk blowing up his whole computer
[07:09] <silvaran> Whatsisname: All he's trying to do is compile rhythmbox...
[07:10] <s|k> silvaran: I'm thinking about configuring again and then doing the 'sudo make install'
[07:10] <silvaran> s|k: I personally find it quite stable, I have it on two vastly different machines (one a laptop, another a desktop, vastly different hardware configurations)
[07:10] <Whatsisname> s|k if you do a reconfigure
[07:10] <silvaran> s|k: Ohhh... you haven't tried that?  Try it!
[07:10] <Whatsisname> you should do a make clean
[07:10] <intelikey> kassandra digression ?   you installed theems last ?   (the way you mentioned it?)   try remocing them first.
[07:10] <kassandra> can't I just like, downgrade to the stable release through apt-get or something?
[07:10] <Whatsisname> then make to rebuild it
[07:10] <s|k> silvaran: my biggest problem with breezy has been sound
[07:10] <s|k> silvaran: that took a lot of work to get it to work, I don't know if I'm ready to do that again right now
[07:10] <kassandra> no idea how to do that, from cli or otherwise, lol
[07:10] <Whatsisname> jesus gtk+ is taking a long ass time to build
[07:11] <silvaran> s|k: I had a few problems with dapper a few days ago, but they just "went away", I think through the ongoing work that's been going into it.
[07:11] <intelikey> kassandra.  what command installed them ?
[07:11] <silvaran> kassandra: You're on dapper?
[07:11] <silvaran> (like you could be "on" dapper like a kind of drug)
[07:11] <s|k> Whatsisname: what were you saying about a 'make clean' ?
[07:11] <silvaran> s|k: Just if you had to re-run ./configure
[07:11] <intelikey> or should i ask what app ?
[07:11] <michael> how can I do the windows version of defrag - or isn't that used in linux?
[07:11] <s|k> silvaran: I had to re-run it a bunch of times
[07:12] <dtothep> michael u dont need defrag in linux
[07:12] <Whatsisname> if you reconfigure, use make clean to blow away any compiled files from the old configuarion
[07:12] <YukiCuss> michael, not used. Not necessary. :)
[07:12] <michael> cool
[07:12] <silvaran> michael: Windows won't be able to defrag your Linux discs... and from what I understand, Linux doesn't really need it except on really full drives.
[07:12] <YukiCuss> dtothep, whatever those characters are, they're not normal.
[07:12] <silvaran> !defrag
[07:12] <ubotu> silvaran: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:12] <dtothep> haha im using mirc in windoze
[07:12] <dansan> there is still fragmentation, but the fs deals with it better
[07:12] <kassandra> yes, dapper, i upgraded from breezy cairo because only supports it, and my friend's theme, which i installed and upgraded many things to even be able to compile, should be working fine
[07:12] <YukiCuss> aah..
[07:12] <fr33mind> frank23, how do you do that in home user account?
[07:12] <dtothep> what is breezy cairo?
[07:12] <kassandra> actually
[07:12] <kassandra> i never installed the theme yet
[07:12] <silvaran> kassandra: Ahhh... what a great reason to change distributions... for the theme :)...
[07:13] <silvaran> kassandra: You _might_ be able to get away with replacing "dapper" with 'breezy" in your sources.list, but check with the folks in #ubuntu+1 to be sure.
[07:13] <kassandra> all i did was update gtk and a few other things like she said
[07:13] <intelikey> then it's just the upgrade process that has hosed the system.
[07:13] <kassandra> hmm
[07:13] <kassandra> yeah i had to do that to update to dapper
[07:13] <kassandra> actually that failed so i just replaced my source list with my friend's, as she suggested
[07:13] <wastrel> ok.
[07:13] <dansan> hmm... going backwards usually has big issues, it did in debian, I know
[07:13] <silvaran> kassandra: So to get to dapper you did "apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade" right? (possibly skipping the middle one, which is fine)
[07:14] <Iceman> anyone know a full linux system that will install to fat32 and run from a c:\ prompt
[07:14] <kassandra> yes, something like that
[07:14] <silvaran> Iceman: cygwin
[07:14] <wastrel> anyone know how to flip an image around the horizontal axis with imagemagick?
[07:14] <kassandra> i had to do a couple of other things before that because the command wasn't working, i had to mess with source list first
[07:14] <techrush> is there a way to turn off that annoying black outline that scrolls when i minimize a window ?
[07:14] <Iceman> silvaran cygwin from dos .. but it;s not linux :(
[07:14] <dansan> cygwin is as close as it gets, not 100% everything you wished to have, but has a lot
[07:14] <s|k> silvaran: are you running xgl?
[07:14] <silvaran> kassandra: Yeah that's nasty... my update was smooth, I wish people wouldn't have to swap around sources.list files...
[07:14] <frank23> fr33mind: you download the latest azureus for linux from the website.  put the file somewhere in your home directory   tar xjvf azureus.something.tar.bz2  cd azureus and run ./azureus
[07:14] <dtothep> sorry
[07:15] <silvaran> Iceman: Sorry, the only other way to get a "full linux system" is to use an emulator, like qemu or vmware
[07:15] <silvaran> s|k: Yup
[07:15] <frank23> fr33mind: you need the latest sun java as well for this
[07:15] <kassandra> hmm, i'll just reinstall and format again i  guess, unless apt get can downgrade me easily
[07:15] <s|k> silvaran: nice :/ I think I'll wait either for the beta or for the stable
[07:15] <silvaran> kassandra: If you're going to reformat, why not try the downgrade and let us know if it actually works :)
[07:15] <wastrel> techrush:  if you find out, let me know
[07:15] <Iceman> no way to transfer the filesystem and run it from dos ?
[07:15] <silvaran> s|k: Yeah, beta's coming in about a month...
[07:15] <kassandra> yeah, i'll give it a try
[07:16] <Iceman> i got the file system on a fat32 drive but cannot load
[07:16] <fr33mind> frank23: java is ok.
[07:16] <kassandra> theres nothing on the drive
[07:16] <wastrel> zipslack runs on fat32 doesn't it?
[07:16] <fr33mind> frank23: but... it will open files in firefox?
[07:16] <silvaran> Iceman: fat32 is wholly inadequate for Linux...
[07:16] <Iceman> wastrel zipslack lacks x and kde ...
[07:16] <kassandra> the ubuntu installer had little regard for my 1.5hr windows install that I did last night
[07:16] <dtothep> iceman why do u want linux on fat32?
[07:16] <frank23> fr33mind: the torrents? I don't know... I always save the .torrent somewhere and then open it with azureus directly
[07:17] <silvaran> Iceman: If you absolutely had to, you COULD create a big multi-gig file, and then mount -o loop it as another filesystem (reiser or ext), but you're not going to get the integration with Windows you seem to be implying you want.
[07:17] <kassandra> so how would I do this apt get thing from ctrl+alt+f1 login?
[07:17] <silvaran> kassandra: Little regard?   You must have let it take the whole drive...
[07:17] <s|k> silvaran: rhythmbox is crashing now
[07:17] <kassandra> nope
[07:17] <fr33mind> ??? azureus.org ask me to send in my email????
[07:17] <silvaran> s|k: Yeah... that's the best you're going to get with something like rhythmbox, I'm afraid.
[07:17] <intelikey> kassandra you like jokes?         Q. what do linux user do ?    A. install software.
[07:17] <frank23> fr33mind: no. maybe you have the wrong sire
[07:17] <kassandra> i had it use free space, and then i split that up into root, swap, and another 20 gigs
[07:17] <dtothep> lol intelikey
[07:17] <frank23> fr33mind: site
[07:17] <kassandra> =\
[07:17] <s|k> silvaran: so I can't use it anymore? :(
[07:18] <silvaran> intelikey: What does a gentoo user do? Compile software... :)
[07:18] <s|k> silvaran: I'm going to try rebooting
[07:18] <dansan> Q. what do windows users do?  A. Uninstall malware
[07:18] <frank23> fr33mind: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
[07:18] <silvaran> kassandra: And it wiped out your WIndows?
[07:18] <kassandra> sorry, i'm just a lowly Mac user who was stuck with windows for 3 years
[07:18] <kassandra> yeah lol
[07:18] <Iceman> used to be winlinux 2003 ... but kernerl old as heck ...
[07:18] <chemaja_> Q: What do Foresight Linux users do? A: Who?!?
[07:18] <kassandra> totally wiped it out, no idea why
[07:18] <intelikey> silvaran brag about their system
[07:18] <kassandra> not a problem it was a a clean install
[07:18] <kassandra> but still
[07:18] <silvaran> kassandra: At the Alt+Ctrl+F1 login (console)... the downgrade would be something like "sudo apt-get update" (after you edited your sources.list) followed by an "apt-get dist-upgrade" ..
[07:19] <silvaran> Anyone else familiar with a downgrade, speak now, or forever hold your pee.
[07:19] <dansan> Q. What do Mac users do?  A. Do? I thought computers were made to behold!
[07:19] <kassandra> how culd i edit sources.list from cli?
[07:19] <pvd2006> How can you get quicktime/.mov files to place in linux? I got the URL of the .mov file and tried to load it into totom-video player and it isnt working even though I downloaded all the codecs.
[07:19] <silvaran> intelikey: I did what now?
[07:19] <Iceman> dansan very true .... and viruses ..... winblows
[07:19] <YukiCuss> dansan, :)
[07:19] <pvd2006> is there a media player that will play a .mov file on linux?
[07:19] <s|k> silvaran: yay it's not crashing anymore :)
[07:19] <silvaran> kassandra: Edit it before you jump to the console...
[07:19] <dtothep> or vim
 intelikey: What does a gentoo user do? Compile software... :)   <intelikey> silvaran brag about their system
[07:19] <kassandra> how can i edit if i can't login to my desktop?
[07:19] <Iceman> i got the filesystem on a fat32 drive ... but no loader ....
[07:20] <silvaran> s|k: A reboot fixed it???  When you said you were going to reboot I shook my head...
[07:20] <dansan> if you are a beginer, nano is a good editor for the cli
[07:20] <dtothep> kassandra use vim
[07:20] <frank23> kassandra: you can use nano
[07:20] <s|k> silvaran: no I didn't reboot, but the reboot is for luck :P
[07:20] <silvaran> intelikey: Whoops, did I hit enter on that?  I thought I deleted it (dumb joke)... but yeah you're absolutely right, the fanboys get a little grating.
[07:20] <Iceman> tried loadlin .. but tells me wrong compression when it starts
[07:20] <silvaran> s|k: Oh...
[07:20] <kassandra> how do i use such tools?
[07:20] <s|k> silvaran: you needs lots of luck :P
[07:20] <dansan> vim has super cow powers, but it is a bit harder to start with
[07:20] <kassandra> are they already installed?
[07:20] <dtothep> ur right on that, but i guess im used to it
[07:21] <Iceman> how to migrate slax or dsl and zipslack ...
[07:21] <dansan> they shold be already there
[07:21] <frank23> fr33mind: a good place to put azureus is  ~/opt  then when you extract it will create ~/opt/azureus
[07:21] <silvaran> kassandra: Can you get into your desktop gui?
[07:21] <Madpilot> kassandra, use nano, it's the sanest & simplest of the console editors
[07:21] <s|k> silvaran: works nicely, but funny enough there's nothing about audioscrobbler in the menus anywhere lol
[07:21] <silvaran> kassandra: Go with Madpilot ... nano's easier to use.
[07:21] <kassandra> if i could I wouldn't be posting here
[07:21] <silvaran> s|k: help->about, make sure you're running the right one.
[07:22] <intelikey> kassandra if it's linux  either  vi is installed......... or i set it up.    no exceptions   lol
[07:22] <s|k> silvaran: yeah I'm running the right one :)
[07:22] <s|k> silvaran: it's totally different
[07:22] <s|k> even the sound is better
[07:22] <silvaran> s|k: Well that sucks... I find it under Edit->Preferences, Audioscrobbler tab.
[07:22] <intelikey> vi is good.   down with vi.
[07:22] <dansan> vim and emacs are more powerful editors, but they take a bit of learning
[07:22] <kassandra> how do i get into these and then choose what I want to edit? where is everything/what commands would I need to use?
[07:22] <s|k> silvaran: nope not there :0
[07:23] <dansan> if you just want to quickly edit a file, nano is going to be your best bet
[07:23] <silvaran> s|k: And Help->About says 0.9.3(.1)?
[07:23] <frank23> vi especially. you can't just start it and use it immediately without learning it
[07:23] <pvd2006> Mplayer, doesnt even play .mov files:-\
[07:23] <s|k> silvaran: Rhythmbox 0.9.3
[07:23] <dansan> me thinks that vlc might play .mov files
[07:23] <pvd2006> Ah, ill check
[07:23] <silvaran> pvd2006: you need the codecs... go to mplayer's hq (google for mplayer) and get the all-200xxxxx codec pack.
[07:23] <kassandra> it does on os x
[07:23] <frank23> pvd2006: you need w32codecs
[07:24] <frank23> !w32codecs
[07:24] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:24] <kassandra> or i think it did anyways
[07:24] <silvaran> s|k: Go back to your rhythmbox source and type "./configure --help 2>&1 |grep -i scrobbler"
[07:24] <pvd2006> have w32codecs
[07:24] <pvd2006> thanks though
[07:24] <pvd2006> ill try that
[07:24] <s|k> silvaran: k
[07:25] <dansan> ok everyone, quick poll... name your current window manager
[07:25] <kassandra> i suppose my problem is beyond the scope of your expertise, oh well, ill try the apt get downgrade thing and format if it doesn't work, i have no use for linux anyways other than to dink around and hope I learn something
[07:25] <kassandra> Aqua
[07:25] <silvaran> Shoot... I should know better than to go first in these things.
[07:25] <kassandra> or wait, Quartz would be more accurate i think
[07:25] <s|k> I can't believe I didn't download the right version
[07:25] <silvaran> s|k: Did you get any output from that ./configure command?
[07:26] <silvaran> dtothep: so it'd be metacity
[07:26] <dtothep> ic
[07:26] <s|k> silvaran: yes I got a lot of output
[07:26] <dtothep> im still kinda a linux newb
[07:26] <dtothep> but i can get around
[07:26] <s|k> silvaran: pastebin it?
[07:26] <silvaran> s|k: sure
[07:26] <kassandra> thanks for your help anyways everyone, sorry I'm not really smart enough to use much of it
[07:26] <kassandra> byebye!
[07:26] <dansan> laters
[07:26] <beford> screen
[07:27] <silvaran> beford: :)
[07:27] <beford> :p
[07:27] <silvaran> Ahhh... screen -r (do some work) Ctrl+A-D ... I love it.
[07:28] <dansan> very handy in gentoo installs.... screen (emerge something) C^A,D come back next day... done!
[07:28] <beford> yea. my linux partition got fux0red. i'm using a shell.
[07:28] <s|k> silvaran: actually I didn't type it right last time
[07:28] <highvoltage> only thing with screen is, it' needs a lot of CTRL+A-L's :/
[07:28] <silvaran> dansan: Next day?  How about next week?
[07:28] <silvaran> s|k: Yeah I d/l'd the thing ... can you pastebin your "config.log" (in the root source folder)
[07:28] <s|k> silvaran: it just says --disable-audioscrobbler     Disable Audioscrobbler support in Rhythmbox
[07:29] <wastrel> bah
[07:29] <dansan> I almost cried after trying to install OOffice in gentoo
[07:29] <s|k> silvaran: okay
[07:29] <silvaran> dansan: There IS a -bin ebuild btw :)
[07:29] <dansan> yes, I know
[07:29] <silvaran> I wish Sun would smarten up and fix their build system and code portability.
[07:29] <chemaja_> Aah Gentoo. So tempting; so impractical.
[07:30] <dansan> there also is a -bin for firefox, and I had to use it after trying to compile it myself
[07:30] <chemaja_> (for me)
[07:30] <intelikey> well if they release dapper on schedual  i hope they don't issue iso's to shippit until some of the major bugs are worked out.
[07:30] <silvaran> intelikey: It's been delayed, it's official... I think the vote was 6:1 in favor of a delay.
[07:30] <silvaran> iirc
[07:30] <dansan> seems to me that it's sad that the machines that would actually benefit the most from gentoo (older ones that need stuff more tweaked to work better) are the worst ones to install gentoo on
[07:30] <intelikey> k
[07:31] <frank23> silvaran: is that a ratio or can only 7 people vote?
[07:31] <silvaran> frank23: Sorry, 7 people voted.
[07:31] <silvaran> I know nothing about the hierarchy up there in ubuntu deity land.
[07:31] <chemaja> dansan: yea; but the admin just uses a fast box to compile and make packages.
[07:31] <s|k> silvaran: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/606936
[07:31] <frank23> silvaran: who are those 7? just wondering
[07:31] <silvaran> Dunno
[07:31] <silvaran> There are #ubuntu-meeting logs somewhere.
 silvaran: is that a ratio or can only 7 people vote? <--- hehhe   yes !
[07:32] <Ads_>  ubuntu rocks XD 
[07:32] <chemaja> dansan: as soon as i stop being so indecisive, i'm going to buy an AMD X2 3200 with 2GB RAM and 500GB storage :)
[07:32] <silvaran> s|k: You must be missing a dependency to build rhythmbox... Line 1297 of that pastebin: "Audioscrobbler disabled"... try "--enable-audioscrobbler" in your ./configure, and if that doesn't work, you're going to need to track down the dependency :(
[07:32] <silvaran> intelikey: Picky, picky :)
[07:33] <dansan> chemaja! I'm very decisive, but I can't find extra ca$h for it...
[07:33] <intelikey> lol    well it's still a ratio, i mean
[07:33] <s|k> silvaran: okay
[07:33] <frank23> intelikey: lol yes it is
[07:33] <chemaja> dansan: thankfully i've got the cash... :)
[07:33] <silvaran> s|k: Essentially, you have the right source, but not enough for the build to include audioscrobbler support... and that's the pain-in-the-ass that is autotools (./configure; make; make install) -- a lot of the time they "silently" omit features...
[07:34] <intelikey> it just struck me funny that's all.
[07:34] <dansan> :)
[07:34] <silvaran> AND off to bed for silvaran... sorry I can't stay s|k, but good luck... night folks.
[07:34] <fr33mind> frank23, azureus work...
[07:34] <fr33mind> frank23: I'm looking to find a way to plugin with firefox
[07:35] <fr33mind> frank23, I wonder if it was a good idea to install the torrent search bar in firefox..
[07:35] <frank23> fr33mind: can you choose the open with... program to be azureus?
[07:35] <wd3> dfdd
[07:35] <frank23> s|k: there is a package named rbscrobbler....
[07:36] <wd3> fff\
[07:36] <dansan> frank23, should be able to set firefox to use azureus by default for those files
[07:36] <frank23> fr33mind: I don't know what torrent bar that is
[07:36] <fr33mind> frank23, There are link (in mininova.org) to azureus magnet... don't know how to make it work.
[07:37] <fr33mind> frank23, torrent bar in firefox extensions... you can add it.  Don't know exactly...
[07:37] <frank23> fr33mind: ok
[07:37] <PuppiesOnAcid> What is a synonym for "sellable"
[07:37] <wd3> hey i just installed automatix, i don't see firefox 1.5
[07:38] <intelikey> merchendice
[07:38] <Madpilot> !automatix
[07:38] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:39] <wd3> how do i uninstall automatix and software it upgraded
[07:39] <s|k> yeah I see people with automatix issues and nivida in the forums from time to time
[07:39] <cuen> can anyone quickly help me with the GCONF-EDITOR APPS/COMPIZ part of the Xgl tutorial pls? i don't get any responses in the ubuntu-xgl and ubuntu+1 rooms
[07:40] <wd3> how do i uninstall automatix
[07:40] <frank23> automatix was on slashdot today
[07:40] <dtothep> sudo apt-get uninstall automatix
[07:40] <dtothep> just a suggestion
[07:40] <michael> back again__ how can I play .wmv files?
[07:40] <wd3> frank23 what's slashdot?
[07:40] <s|k> frank23: what did they say about it?
[07:40] <michael> preferably through totem
[07:40] <beford> omg. slashdot.org
[07:40] <wd3> dtothep thanks
[07:40] <intelikey> !restricted formats
[07:40] <ubotu> restricted formats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:41] <s|k> wd3: slashdot is news for nerds
[07:41] <frank23> wd3: that will not undo the changes made by automatix
[07:41] <beford> michael: w32codes
[07:41] <intelikey> michael https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:41] <wd3> ohhh no how do i undo
[07:41] <pvd2006> to untar a file do you just tar --extract
[07:41] <pvd2006> ?
[07:41] <Zonny> cuen: whats your prob then?
[07:41] <beford> tar -fx
[07:41] <nbound> how do i set up a printer to work over the network?
[07:41] <frank23> s|k: the article said that it was useful but had to be run 3 times for it to do all the changes (it crashed a few times I think)
[07:41] <pvd2006> so tar -fx filename...
[07:41] <s|k> wd3: have you tried searching the forums?
[07:41] <nexy> anybody know how i can right click with my powerbook?
[07:42] <frank23> s|k: the comments where divided.
[07:42] <s|k> frank23: I'm going to stay away from it, poor wd3 :(
[07:42] <beford> pvd2006: tar -xf file.tar
[07:42] <wd3> slk ooooooh is it that bad?
[07:42] <pvd2006> its actually a .tar.bz makes any difference?
[07:43] <s|k> wd3: I don't know
[07:43] <s|k> wd3: what are you trying to do with it?
[07:43] <pvd2006> nevermind
[07:43] <wd3> slk  it was a suggestion for newbies in the forum
[07:43] <pvd2006> I got it to work, thanks Bedford.
[07:43] <dtothep> pvd2006 try using bunzip if tar doesnt work, i cant remember if tar will do it or not
[07:43] <frank23> wd3: I never tried it but I think it's more unpredictable.  easyubuntu is the same type of tool but is said to be much safer
[07:43] <dtothep> nvm then
[07:44] <wd3> frank thanks
[07:44] <painkiler> hey guys
[07:44] <smog> How would you go about finding your network ip address?
[07:44] <wd3> slk it's recomd for easy install of all programs
[07:44] <dtothep> smog, type ifconfig in a console
[07:44] <smog> ipconfig doesn't work
[07:45] <frank23> wd3: I know but for a minority of people it can screw up things
[07:45] <pvd2006> just one more question to copy all files from one directory to a new directory you would use CP with what parameters?
[07:45] <pvd2006> I need to start reading man pages
[07:45] <s|k> Silvaran left :(
[07:45] <digit> Hello, I have a quick question about ripping speeds under breezy.  I have a usb 2 drive (lite-on), seen as a scsi device. (scd0).  I'm getti
[07:45] <digit> g around 1.2x-1.9x
[07:45] <dtothep> smog, use ifconfig, with an f
[07:45] <digit> I don't think I have to futz around with DMA, since it's scsi.
[07:46] <smog> oh thanks
[07:46] <dtothep> np
[07:46] <phiber_optic> does anybody know hot wo compile a c++ code?
[07:46] <wd3> frank it's suppose to install firefox 1.5 how do i activate it
[07:46] <dansan> pvd2006 cp -r
[07:46] <Angel_Dex> How doi make the icons for my mounted devices stop apearing on my desktop?
[07:46] <frank23> wd3: did you run automatix? or just installed it?
[07:46] <pvd2006> thanks
[07:46] <wd3> frank i ran it :o(
[07:46] <intelikey> InterFace CONFIGuration tool   hmmmm
[07:46] <digit> The real kicker is that once, randomly, I heard the drive speed up and I got 17x.  The next cd was slow.
[07:47] <frank23> wd3: and it completed successfuly?
[07:47] <wd3> frank yes
[07:47] <frank23> wd3: is there a new firefox link in the menu somewhere?
[07:47] <wd3> frank no
[07:47] <dtothep> frank23, u should just be able to use the old link
[07:47] <rixth> I'm looking to ask somone who uses a laptop that has the Intel 2200 wireless card in it a question. Does anyone have this?
[07:47] <frank23> wd3: try the old link
[07:47] <digit> I also don't think it's a gnome-polling-the-drive-to-often issue since I went into failsafe and ripped straight from paranoia.
[07:48] <dtothep> rixth, i used to, whats the prob?
[07:48] <Angel_Dex> anyone?
[07:48] <wd3> frank / dtothep  when i go to "about firefox" it says 1.0
[07:48] <eobanb> nexy, i believe it's F11?
[07:48] <dtothep> hmm
[07:48] <digit> Angel: do you want the icons to not appear or for them to be stopped automounting?
[07:48] <frank23> wd3: close all firefox windows then start it again
[07:49] <rixth> dtothep, does it have an external do-hickey for an external antenna? Or is it integrated onto the motherboard?
[07:49] <Angel_Dex> digit not apear i prefer iconless desktop with the drive mount applet in the pannel
[07:49] <dtothep> integrated
[07:49] <wd3> frank i restarted my compu. 4x still the same
[07:49] <eobanb> nexy, actually F11 is middle click, sorry, right is F12
[07:49] <s|k> frank23: I got it to install 0.9.3 and audioscrobbler and it's connecting and sending the info :D
[07:49] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, check gconf, there's an option somewhere in the nautilus/desktop section for having mounted volumes appear as desktop icons
[07:50] <frank23> s|k: ok. just installing the scrobbler package worked?
[07:50] <Angel_Dex> digit i dont see why pple find Icons usefull >.> they are a hassel to get to if you have alota windows open If you put everything on the pannel its alwyas there to click
[07:50] <digit> Angel: applications->system tools->configuration editor ==
[07:50] <digit> in configuration editor:
[07:50] <digit> apps->nautilus->desktop
[07:50] <digit> on the right:
[07:50] <digit> uncheck "volume_visible"
[07:50] <wd3> frank should i go to synaptic and use that?
[07:50] <intelikey> i prefer iconless and no drive mount applet
[07:51] <dtothep> wd3, u need a repository with firefox 1.5 in it if ur going to use synaptic
[07:51] <s|k> frank23: no I had to reconfigure the entire thing with --enable audioscrobbler and install a missing dependency
[07:51] <s|k> not in that order
[07:51] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot & digit Many thanks ^^
[07:51] <digit> I think that should do it.  I'm not actually at my ubuntu box, but at another gnome machine.
[07:51] <dtothep> im not sure of any that do, besides the dapper ones apprarently
[07:51] <frank23> wd3: firefox 1.5 doesn't work?
[07:51] <frank23> s|k: ok
[07:51] <wd3> dtothep thanks
[07:51] <Angel_Dex> digit works!
[07:51] <digit> yay!
[07:51] <wd3> frank i agree
[07:51] <Angel_Dex> Whoot!
[07:51] <Angel_Dex> lol
[07:51] <Francisco> hello can you help me. I want to put RADIO On mode my wifi coz I do not have idea. "how did I do."
[07:51] <Angel_Dex> Onto another problem! lol
[07:52] <wd3> frank / dtothp when i dl it from mozilla but couldnt  install it how do u uncompress file
[07:52] <|37th|Trigger> Hey all
[07:52] <|37th|Trigger> Don't suppose someone could help me?
[07:52] <frank23> wd3: I'm not sure where automatix installs ff1.5 but look in /opt/firefox for it
[07:52] <Angel_Dex> digit i used a pendrive on a windows box under the admin acount and now ubuntu says its read only And it wont let me change that becuase well it says its read only >.>
[07:52] <michael> i can play videos w/ mozilla-mplayer now, but it freezes after the first 2sec
[07:52] <dtothep> wd3, what is the file extension
[07:53] <TriGz> Screen is all like... Messed up. I think xconfig is knackard.
[07:53] <cmug> Morning, how do I define user specifically a default encoding? I want the system to default to UTF8, but a single user wants to use iso8859-15. I already edited .bashrc "export LANG=en_US" but its not enough, KDE still defaults to UTF8. Ideas?
[07:53] <digit> have you mounted it as root using the mount command?
[07:53] <highvoltage> TriGz: ctrl+a L cleans up screen
[07:53] <Angel_Dex> digit automount prevents that >.>
[07:53] <wd3> frank / dtothep i'll check in opt. what browser r u two using
[07:53] <nbound> !printer
[07:53] <ubotu> from memory, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[07:53] <digit> hmm
[07:53] <dtothep> im using firfox 1.5 but im in windoze right now
[07:54] <wd3> dtothep ok
[07:54] <dtothep> TriGz what king of vid card are u using?
[07:54] <digit> I'd try disabling automounter and trying to mount it as root/sudo
[07:54] <nbound> traitor ;)
[07:54] <Angel_Dex> digit Thats not the only problem tho See im gonna be switching alot! so how do i keep it from cahning
[07:54] <wd3> dtothp have u used wine i kinda miss trillian
[07:54] <intelikey> cmug kde has an app fro setting that.
[07:54] <frank23> michael  I just use the mediaplayerconnectivity extension instead of dealing with those media plugins
[07:54] <dtothep> hey, im not proud of it
[07:54] <cmug> intelikey, called?
[07:54] <dtothep> :] 
[07:55] <dtothep> wd3, ive tried it, but i prefer gaim
[07:55] <intelikey> cmug  idk.  it should be in the menu tho
[07:55] <frank23> wd3: gaim connects to a bunch of networks. It should do the job
[07:55] <wd3> dtothep yeah but .......where's the eye candy?
[07:55] <michael> how do i install/use that
[07:55] <cmug> intelikey, :/
[07:55] <TriGz> I have a pixelated screen when i boot up, how do i get it to work? :P
[07:55] <digit> Well, if you can get it to mount manually, you can probably make it so automounter mounts it correctly.
[07:55] <Francisco> how can I do that my eth1 turn the radio on??
[07:56] <Angel_Dex> digit Hum ok
[07:56] <nbound> wd3, u dont need it, zomg my friend is listenin to a crap song... who cares :)
[07:56] <digit> sorry
[07:56] <dtothep> whats the command to reconfigure xserver?
[07:56] <frank23> michael its a firefox extension. search for it in the extensions site
[07:56] <wd3> nbound i dont need what? trillian?
[07:56] <dtothep> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[07:56] <nbound> !xorg
[07:56] <ubotu> well, xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[07:56] <nbound> wd3, the eye candy
[07:56] <wd3> nbound  :o)
[07:57] <digit> maybe someone knows more about automounter.  I'm just trying out ubuntu for the first time today.  I use netbsd day to day.
[07:57] <Angel_Dex> cool
[07:57] <dtothep> TriGz, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then choose vesa as your vid driver and see if that works, it wont have 3d acceleration, but at least u might have a gui for now
[07:57] <ITSa341> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  TY All for the help!!!
[07:57] <intelikey> cmug kconfig or something  but it's part of the  kdebase   iirc
[07:57] <dansan> thanks for the tip on mediaplayerconnectivity!
[07:57] <dansan> that's cool
[07:57] <Psykus> having a really horrible problem with gnome freezing up, and then not being able to do anything else..i kept having this problem before, and managed to fix it somehow with help from this channel, but I reinstalled ubuntu and its coming back. it had something to do with RAM if I remember right, maybe running out, but I do have 1 GB of memory, so it must be something in linux
[07:57] <wd3> nbound, frank, dtothep, i need to upgrade my firefox  what do i do?
[07:57] <Psykus> once it freezes up I mean, I have to restart my computer
[07:58] <frank23> !tell wd3 about ff1.5
[07:58] <kanid> the thread for my usb troubles, if anyone's interested: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145813
[07:58] <Psykus> i'm in irssi right now, on the console, so it won't freakout and make me reboot
[07:58] <intelikey> cmug look for "configure kde" in the menu
[07:58] <frank23> wd3: the instructions are a bit involved though
[07:58] <wd3> frank thanks for the bot
[07:58] <cmug> intelikey, got it now
[07:58] <FlannelKing> Psykus: you sure your ram is good?  if it's random freezes, it sounds like hardware
[07:58] <intelikey> k
[07:58] <Frogzoo> Psykus: swapon -s   ?
[07:59] <dansan> darn, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop -- 408 new packages!
[07:59] <Psykus> Frogzoo: what does that do?
[07:59] <michael> still freezing
[07:59] <ITSa341> wastrel   thx again
[07:59] <dansan> Psykus, processor overheating can also cause that
[07:59] <Frogzoo> Psykus: just post the answer here, or read the man page - man swapon
[08:00] <frank23> michael did you install that extension?
[08:00] <michael> yea, and configured it
[08:00] <Psykus> yeah, it just brought me back to a prompt
[08:00] <frank23> michael you have to uninstall/delete the media player plugin to stop the freezing maybe
[08:01] <Frogzoo> Psykus: there's your problem - please pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l'
[08:01] <michael> mplayer or mediaplayerconnectivity?
[08:01] <frank23> michael: mplayer
[08:01] <digit>  On slow ripping speeds: does anyone have suggestions on why my cd ripping speeds are so slow?  ~1.8x in SoundJuicer, Grip, cdparanoia and cdda2wav. usb 2.0 drive (lite-on) on /dev/scd0.  No DMA issues (scsi device), not gnome-polling-all-the-time issues (tried cdparanoia in failsafe terminal). I get 17-20x under netbsd.
[08:01] <Psykus> i have a swap partition, but I guess it's not being utilized by ubuntu
[08:02] <Frogzoo> digit: no DMA ?
[08:02] <frank23> michael: mediaplayerconnectivity is an extension, not the same thing as a plugin
[08:02] <digit> As I understand, DMA can only be set for ide devices.  From hdparm manpage.
[08:02] <digit> Mine is seen a scsi device.
[08:02] <Psykus> Frogzoo: the /dev/hda5 is labeled as "Linux Swap / Solaris"
[08:02] <michael> i'm uninstalling it
[08:03] <Psykus> i can't paste, since i'm on a virtual terminal for irssi, and running commands in another one
[08:03] <Frogzoo> Psykus: so add the following line to /etc/fstab
[08:03] <Frogzoo> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[08:03] <Psykus> ah, didn't know it had to be mounted
[08:04] <dansan> would be cool to be able to redirect something to pastebin
[08:04] <Frogzoo> Psykus: yes indeedy
[08:04] <frank23> michael what the extension will do is let you open videos in an external media player
[08:04] <digit> Frogzoo: infact, hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0 gets an error.
[08:04] <TriGz> Anyone know how to fix my screen?  cant see nothing.. Just pixilation :(
[08:04] <Psykus> Frogzoo: actually, that's already in fstab
[08:04] <dansan> why the heck is this thing installing malasian fonts...
[08:05] <Psykus> doing a mount -a, and then going back and doing the swapon command that you told me did nothing
[08:05] <michael> k, it's opening in firefox, but only showing a small icon in the middle now
[08:05] <Frogzoo> Psykus: 'sudo swapon -a ; swapon -s'
[08:05] <digit> Frogzoo: the real kicker is that when I was playing around with grip, suddenly it finished a cd at normal speed. ~17x.
[08:05] <frank23> michael: yeah click that icon. you may need to configure the extension
[08:05] <michael> what should i use to open it?
[08:06] <frank23> michael what do you normaly use for wmv?
[08:06] <Psykus> says: "swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument"
[08:06] <michael> windows media player, never used linux to play wmv b4
[08:06] <Frogzoo> Psykus: grep swap /etc/fstab
[08:06] <digit> Frogzoo: thanks for the suggestion, I think I'm going to go back into failsafe to play around again.  I really want to make sure it's not a polling issue.
[08:06] <digit> Frogzoo: cheers.
[08:06] <Frogzoo> digit: cheers, gl
[08:07] <Psykus> Frogzoo: "/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0"
[08:07] <frank23> michael oh. you will have to get a normal player playing wmv. totem-xine + w32codecs should work I think
[08:08] <frank23> I use kde I don't know what most people use in gnome
[08:08] <Psykus> Frogzoo: should it matter if it's a primary or logical partition?
[08:09] <Frogzoo> Psykus: no difference
[08:09] <Psykus> hm
[08:10] <pinpoint> whats the path to firefox in ubuntu?
[08:10] <MistaED> i haven't touched my ubuntu dapper partition since Xgl/compiz came around, is the gnome 2.14 release in yet?
[08:10] <frank23> pinpoint: /usr/bin/firefox
[08:10] <Psykus> so I have a swap partition thats not being utilized by ubuntu
[08:10] <MistaED> i think it came out today?
[08:10] <painkiler> hey guys
[08:10] <frank23> pinpoint: what are you looking for exactly?
[08:10] <pinpoint> path to put into a client
[08:10] <pinpoint> so it knows to open browser
[08:10] <painkiler> having a little trouble with x after installing dapper drake..... Don't send me to the other channel
[08:10] <pinpoint> when i click on urls
[08:10] <painkiler> x freezes
[08:11] <painkiler> and gives me an error message
[08:11] <frank23> pinpoint: that should work I think
[08:11] <Frogzoo> Psykus: mebbe try 'sudo mkswap /dev/hda5'      MAKE SURE YOU GET THE DEVICE NAME RIGHT - then try swapon -a again
[08:11] <pinpoint> nope
[08:11] <painkiler> something like "x is screwing up, click ok for diagnosics"
[08:11] <painkiler> but its frozen
[08:11] <Frogzoo> Psykus: sudo fstab -l |grep -i swap                    before you run mkswap, just to check
[08:11] <painkiler> how do i stop x from booting at bootup?
[08:12] <painkiler> then "reinstalling
[08:12] <painkiler> it
[08:12] <Psykus> brb, need to reboot, made a new partition, and it needs to reboot to read the partition table
[08:12] <dtothep> painkiler do a ctrl+alt+f1 and log in as root
[08:12] <dtothep> then do a killall gdm
[08:13] <Frogzoo> Psykus: *sudo fdisk -l |grep -i swap*                    before you run mkswap, just to check
[08:13] <painkiler> killall gdm?
[08:13] <dtothep> i believe so
[08:13] <painkiler> what does that do?
[08:13] <frank23> dtothep: most people can't log in as root.   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart restarts X
[08:14] <Dr|J> how do  view diskspace of the harddisk?
[08:14] <Frogzoo> df
[08:14] <Dr|J> ?
[08:14] <Frogzoo> Dr|J: it's a shell command
[08:14] <jonas3> df -h
[08:14] <painkiler> can i boot a second hdd in vmware?
[08:15] <painkiler> i dont want to reboot and lose you guys
[08:15] <christmas> hy all
[08:15] <frank23> painkiler: you can give vmware access to a physical partition but I don't know if it will boot
[08:15] <Frogzoo> is it Christmas already?
[08:15] <dtothep> holy Christmas!
[08:15] <Christmas> :)
[08:16] <frank23> painkiler: you should'nt do that though
[08:16] <painkiler> ok then
[08:16] <painkiler> i guess i will have to reboot
[08:16] <painkiler> cya guys
[08:16] <painkiler> brb
[08:17] <Dr|J> i know just about nothing about linux :(
[08:17] <dtothep> waht do u want to know Dr|J? im no guru, but i know the basics
[08:17] <painkiler> well you know its an operating system
[08:17] <painkiler> thats a good thing
[08:17] <Dr|J> that's about it :p
[08:18] <Dr|J> i don't know where to start
[08:18] <frank23> Dr|J: everybody starts with nothing ;)
[08:18] <Dr|J> tis true
[08:18] <nexy> how do i emulate a right click button on my powerbook. right now i cant right click anything :(
[08:18] <Frogzoo> Dr|J: click on 'Get Help with Gnome' (looks like lifesaver) - that should help with the basics
[08:18] <Dr|J> mk
[08:18] <frank23> Dr|J: the wiki and forums have a lot of info too
[08:18] <suryam> how do i set the default input method in Gnome?
[08:18] <Dr|J> im just playin in terminal right now
[08:19] <Frogzoo> suryam: default input for which device?
[08:19] <frank23> Dr|J: some here might disagree but I think the windows->KDE transition is easier than gnome
[08:19] <suryam> Frogzoo: when i right-click in any text-entry field of any GTK program, an "input methods" menu appears..  i want to set SCIM as the default
[08:19] <Psykus> Frogzoo: still happening :O, swapon -s lists /dev/hda2 (since I remade the partition) as a swap, but gnome freezes up pretty much as soon as I start it up. I can ctrl alt backspace to kill it so I don't have to reboot
[08:20] <Christmas> d
[08:20] <frank23> Psykus: why do you think that a gnome freeze is related to swap?
[08:20] <Frogzoo> Psykus: ok, so it's not a memory issue then
[08:20] <rofl-waffle> I just installed the server package, how do I login as root? I don't remember setting a root pw during install...
[08:21] <frank23> !tell rofl-waffle about sudo
[08:21] <Frogzoo> Psykus: do you have x properly configured?
[08:21] <Christmas> rofl-waffle you have to use the "sudo" command in front of the other commands
[08:21] <suryam> SCIM as default input method for GTK, anyone?
[08:21] <Christmas> in ubuntu the root account is disabled by default
[08:21] <suryam> !scim
[08:21] <ubotu> scim is, like, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[08:21] <Dr|J> is the newest version of firefox avaliable to linux?
[08:21] <G0SUB> Frogzoo: hehe
[08:22] <dtothep> yes Dr|J
[08:22] <dtothep> im not exactly sure how to install it tho
[08:22] <Dr|J> hm
[08:22] <dtothep> thy the forums
[08:22] <dtothep> i think i saw a thread about it
[08:23] <Dr|J> k
[08:23] <Dr|J> I just need to practice or learn first how to install stuff
[08:23] <dtothep> have you used apt-get?
[08:23] <Frogzoo> Psykus: are you sure it's a gnome problem? it maybe x instead - has this always been broken?
[08:23] <Dr|J> no
[08:23] <cuen> can anyone quickly help me with the GCONF-EDITOR APPS/COMPIZ part of the Xgl tutorial pls? i don't get any responses in the ubuntu-xgl and ubuntu+1 rooms
[08:23] <Dr|J> i'v instaled one thing before and that was Folding@Home and it was awhile ago
[08:24] <frank23> Dr|J: the new firefox is not an easy program to install.  the basic way to install programs is by using synaptic
[08:24] <Psykus> Frogzoo: cups kept giving me problems before, on my other gnome install, I just killed it now, and it doesn't seem to be locking up..apparently it would freak out or something over a network printer that was on my LAN, and then freeze gnome in the same way
[08:24] <dtothep> yes, synaptic works well too, its graphical
[08:24] <Dr|J> ok
[08:24] <Dr|J> time to take notes
[08:25] <dtothep> would synaptic be considered a frontend to apt-get? ive never understood what a "frontend" is
[08:25] <Frogzoo> Psykus: not sure what's going on there
[08:25] <Whatsisname> dtothep you would be correct
[08:26] <dtothep> Dr|J on your menu bar go System>Administraion>Synaptic Package Manager
[08:26] <frank23> dtothep: yes it is.  a frontend is an user interface to another program (usually console based)
[08:26] <dtothep> type in your sudo password
[08:26] <dtothep> thats kinda what i thought
[08:26] <Dr|J> ah ha!
[08:26] <dtothep> this lists all the programs you can currently install using synaptic
[08:26] <dtothep> if you click update, it will update the package lists from the internet
[08:27] <Dr|J> cool
[08:27] <Dr|J> let me try
[08:27] <frank23> Dr|J: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation?action=show&redirect=NewUbuntuUsers is a good place for a new user
[08:27] <dtothep> upgrade will upgrade any program with updates
[08:27] <Dr|J> ok, going to that website now
[08:27] <Dr|J> so much to learn! :P
[08:29] <Dr|J> my res seems big, but i can't go any smaller :(
[08:29] <dtothep> you may need an updated video card driver
[08:30] <frank23> !fixres
[08:30] <dtothep> but i wouldnt know where to begin
[08:30] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:30] <dtothep> frank's on it
[08:30] <frank23> or ubotu is :)
[08:30] <dtothep> oh yea, my bad
[08:30] <Dr|J> oomg
[08:30] <Dr|J> i hit ctrl alt - and now everything is huge
[08:30] <Dr|J> help!
[08:30] <Dr|J> lol
[08:31] <Dr|J> ok there we go
[08:31] <dtothep> ctrl alt +?
[08:31] <Dr|J> yea
[08:31] <dtothep> :] 
[08:31] <ChrisBradley> how do the live cd's work as far as writing anything to the disc?
[08:31] <frank23> try ctrl-alt -
[08:31] <ChrisBradley> Do they write to fat32?
[08:31] <Dr|J> ya ctrl alt + & - change it
[08:31] <ChrisBradley> or NTFS?
[08:31] <frank23> ChrisBradley: if you mount it, sure it can write to fat32
[08:32] <dtothep> and ext
[08:32] <ChrisBradley> And it won't corrupt the disc?
[08:32] <frank23> ChrisBradley: no, linux can't write to ntfs. It's read only
[08:32] <dtothep> nope
[08:33] <ChrisBradley> So basically the live CD is only for running a demo?
[08:33] <frank23> ChrisBradley: It won't damage it.
[08:33] <Frogzoo> ChrisBradley: you're much better off with a full install
[08:33] <dtothep> say your hard drive fails, your computer is not worthless, with a livecd, you can boot into an os and go online, whatever you need to do
[08:33] <frank23> ChrisBradley: kind of yeah. you can test if your hardware will run well before installing ubuntu
[08:33] <ChrisBradley> Trying to show my parents the power of linux
[08:34] <dtothep> good luck with that, it never worked for me!
[08:34] <ChrisBradley> I've already got ubuntu and vector on 2 respective boxes
[08:34] <dtothep> i had to buy my own box
[08:34] <Frogzoo> ChrisBradley: most people only see how slow the live cd is to boot & little else
[08:34] <Elektrochelovek> how to dist-upgrade from breezy to badger?
[08:34] <jb1> ChrisBradley: Yank the cable off your hard drive and then load the Live CD. Still works.
[08:34] <dtothep> breezy is badger
[08:34] <dtothep> u meen dapper?
[08:35] <ChrisBradley> breezy is what I'm going to test first
[08:35] <Frogzoo> Elektrochelovek: hoary hedghehog < breezy badger < dapper drake
[08:35] <frank23> Elektrochelovek: you can upgrade to dapper but it's still in development. If it doesn't work, you're on your own. (or you can try #ubuntu+1)
[08:35] <digit> A quick question for anyone: under breezy, how can I get a kernel tree and .config exactly like the one used to build the generic breezy kernel/modules? I just want to make one very small change to a module.
[08:35] <Frogzoo> except dapper is beta
[08:35] <z33> I downloaded a single .c file and I want to run it, what commands do I use to do that?
[08:36] <Frogzoo> ChrisBradley: breezy is the best bet as it's stable
[08:36] <ChrisBradley> jb1 - yes - but where does it store any output - for example - if you write a file in Open Office - where do you store it? Can you save it as .doc and it won't eat the drive?
[08:37] <jb1> ChrisBradley: You still need some type of storage device for writing files. USB sticks are a good idea.
[08:37] <frank23> ChrisBradley: well the only way to save something permanently is to save it on a disk. by default, I'm not sure if the live CD actually mounts anything
[08:37] <dtothep> u can manually mount drives, but no it doesnt on initial bootup
[08:38] <g00r00> automatix pwns!! it lets you leech dope pr0n and warez
[08:38] <g00r00> fyi
[08:39] <tritium> g00r00: please stop
[08:39] <painkiler> hey guys
[08:39] <painkiler> ok
[08:39] <dtothep> welcome back painkiler
[08:39] <painkiler> i have a photo of the problem
[08:39] <painkiler> http://www.flickr.com/photos/evilmac/113630855/
[08:40] <dtothep> ive had the same problem before
[08:40] <painkiler> what is it?
[08:40] <g00r00> you need the right driver for X?
[08:40] <tritium> painkiler: have you looked at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?  What were you trying to do/change?
[08:40] <dtothep> yea
[08:40] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj> is it normal to use 980 megs of memory running kde with one konqueror open (with only one tab), one terminal (konsole), and xchat
[08:40] <dtothep> if u use the vesa driver, it should give u a gui
[08:40] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj> no swap
[08:40] <painkiler> oh, i upgraded to dapper
[08:41] <dtothep> that could be a problem too
[08:41] <painkiler> now there are some problem
[08:41] <Frogzoo> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: well not having swap is just silly
[08:41] <painkiler> *problems
[08:41] <dtothep> but it worked before?
[08:41] <painkiler> yeah
[08:41] <painkiler> totally
[08:41] <dtothep> weird
[08:41] <DBO> I am having trouple getting lircd to stay running, anyone have experience with lircd?
[08:41] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj> sry, meant, no swap space being used
[08:41] <painkiler> my other keranl install works to
[08:41] <g00r00> not having a swap can increase performance i thought
[08:41] <painkiler> but thats breasy
[08:41] <frank23> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: where is the memory being used?
[08:42] <Frogzoo> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: the reason you see all memory 'used' is linux kernel borrows unused memory for buffer space - this is normal
[08:42] <dtothep> not having a swap would decrease performance, i beleive
[08:42] <tritium> what kind of nick...
[08:42] <frank23> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: and cache memory is used but it's still available
[08:42] <painkiler> ill just download the dapper iso
[08:42] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj> yes
[08:42] <dtothep> im not really sure there painkiler, try searching for your vid card and dapper
[08:42] <painkiler> oh, ill just do a clean install
[08:42] <dtothep> that might work too
[08:42] <painkiler> way easyer than finding the problem
[08:43] <dtothep> lol
[08:43] <painkiler> thanx guys
[08:43] <painkiler> cya latter
[08:43] <jb1> painkiller: some hints can likely be found by doing "tail -n40 /var/log/Xorg.0.log > Xlog.txt
[08:44] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj> everything's still running smoothly...i was just kind of surprised that it was using so much memory
[08:44] <frank23> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: if you include cache, the memory is usually always completly used
[08:44] <Frogzoo> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: that's just it - it's not
[08:46] <tritium> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: how about a nick change?
[08:47] <DBO> Frogzoo: thanks for helping me the other day, you think you might be able to help me with lirc?
[08:47] <DBO> I got the whole thing installed
[08:47] <DBO> even had it working till I rebooted...
[08:49] <tritium> thanks, jjj__ :)
[08:50] <OBe> where is beginners channel ?
[08:50] <highvoltage> OBe: depends, beginners what?
[08:50] <OBe> ubuntu
[08:51] <highvoltage> OBe: my guess would be #ubuntu
[08:51] <OBe> highvoltage r u from germany?
[08:51] <highvoltage> OBe: same time zone, other side of the world - South Africa
[08:51] <OBe> oh ok thanks
[08:53] <OBe> what do i type /join #ubuntu
[08:53] <dtothep> im goint to take off
[08:53] <dtothep> later everyone
[08:53] <Madpilot> OBe, this is #ubuntu
[08:53] <DBO> OBe... you are in #ubuntu
[08:53] <OBe> wait this is #ubuntu
[08:53] <OBe> lol
[08:54] <rixth> I just want to read an effin .chm file, can I do it?
[08:54] <Dr|J> when i type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom" it says "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom"
[08:54] <rixth> Or course not.
[08:54] <Dr|J> what am i doin wrong
[08:56] <z33> When I try to compile a .c file I am getting an error that says stdio.h: No such file or directory, how do I fix this?
[08:56] <dansan> any one using a cli app for irc?
[08:56] <tritium> dansan: yep
[08:56] <Dr|J> when i type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom" it says "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom"
[08:56] <Dr|J> what am i doin wrong
[08:56] <dansan> tritium, which one?
[08:57] <DBO> Dr|J, call me silly... but it looks right to me...
[08:57] <tritium> dansan: irssi
[08:57] <dansan> tritium, have you tried bitchx? and if you have, what made you decide to go with irssi?
[08:57] <Dr|J> :( idk why it no work
[08:58] <tritium> dansan: no, I haven't.  I've got some handy scripts for irssi that I use.
[08:58] <dansan> ic
[08:58] <Madpilot> Dr|J, that should have worked - do you have a xorg.conf.custom now?
[08:58] <DBO> Dr|J,  enter "ls -l /etc/X11"
[08:59] <DBO> do you see the .backup one?
[08:59] <Dr|J> idk
[08:59] <Dr|J> k
[08:59] <Dr|J> hol don
[09:00] <spine__> dgsb
[09:00] <Dr|J> yes i have xorg.conf but not xorg.conf.custom
[09:00] <jjj__> looking over cached memory a little, would the amount of memory returned by 'free -m' under -/+ buffers/cache be representative of how much memory is used under linux?
[09:01] <DBO> Dr|J, is it giving any error messages?
[09:02] <DBO> hmmm, I said .backup when I should have said .custom... you got the idea
[09:02] <Dr|J> when i type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom it is
[09:02] <Moodles`> im using 5.10 breezy badger, and I have a problem with the archive manager, my .rar contains 2 files, but the archive manager only sees 1, but when I extract, I get 2 files
[09:02] <DBO> Dr|J, what does the error message say?
[09:02] <Dr|J> hold
[09:03] <Dr|J> cp: cannot create regular file `/ect/X11/xorg.conf.custom': No such file or directory
[09:03] <fluxt> Moodles`: rar isn't exactly a supported format
[09:03] <munti78> Anyone here that can help me install java so that I can run applets in my browser?
[09:04] <Madpilot> !java
[09:04] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:04] <gurdder> Hello, if I have a problem, how do I go about asking? Do I just blurt it out or is there some sort of queue? Thanks
[09:04] <Madpilot> munti78, ^^^
[09:04] <tritium> Dr|J: s/ect/etc
[09:04] <Moodles`> can the archive manager be updated?
[09:04] <fluxt> gurdder: just ask
[09:04] <gurdder> ok thanks
[09:04] <Dr|J> moodles u talkin to me?
[09:04] <Madpilot> Moodles`, you could use the non-free rar
[09:05] <munti78> anyone?
[09:06] <fluxt> munti78: ubotu told you about java
[09:06] <Madpilot> munti78, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- look for the Java section
[09:06] <munti78> ok
[09:06] <tritium> Madpilot: there was a MadPassenger in here looking for you earlier ;)
[09:06] <Madpilot> tritium, I'll keep an eye out :P
[09:06] <gurdder> im trying to get my 3D drivers working, and everytime I try to do basically anything I get this "Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)..." then the directory. any ideas how to get that fixed?  5.10 btw
[09:06] <tritium> :)
[09:07] <fluxt> gurdder: do you have the ubuntu cd in the drive?
[09:08] <_ryan> any1 know what files i need for Kaffeine to play mkv files?
[09:08] <gurdder> yes i have the DVD actually
[09:08] <fluxt> hmm :/ i have nfi
[09:08] <munti78> Madpilot; Will that also work on Hoary Hedgehog?
[09:09] <Dr|J> tritium
[09:09] <Dr|J> do i just type that in terminal or what :(
[09:09] <_ryan> any1? =/
[09:09] <Dr|J> and how do you make it so it sayd DR|J and it's in red for me... :(
[09:10] <Madpilot> munti78, yes - but you should update to Breezy
[09:10] <Madpilot> !tell munti78 about upgrade
[09:10] <DBO> what chat client are you using Dr|J
[09:10] <kingspawn> gurder: tried apt-get update first?
[09:10] <Madpilot> anyway, need sleep - later all...
[09:10] <Dr|J> XcHAT
[09:10] <DBO> xchat automatically turns your name red whenever anyone says it
[09:10] <Dr|J> normally i use mIRC but im actually on my linux machine
[09:10] <Dr|J> ah
[09:10] <pvd2006> My friend and I both have the same exact version of Ubuntu and have all updates and both have gcc installed, but for some reason when he tries to compile a .c file into an executable it is not finding the library files and giving him errors even though when I do it, its a perfect compile that works.
[09:10] <Dr|J> kool
[09:11] <DBO> that way you know when people are talking to you... or about you
[09:11] <pvd2006> its not finding like stdio.h
[09:11] <mrkoje> ihola!
[09:11] <pvd2006> its not linking the libraries or something
[09:11] <munti78> Madpilot; sadly that is not an option right now :(
[09:11] <fluxt> pvd2006: what library files?
[09:11] <gurdder> oh yes  I've updated a lot
[09:11] <tritium> Dr|J: sorry, was away.  What?
[09:11] <mrkoje> whats going on my fellow Linux users.
[09:12] <revolutionary> documenting bush's crimes
[09:12] <fluxt> pvd2006: like whats the error..
[09:12] <pvd2006> fluxt, it says stdio.h: No such file or directory to him
[09:12] <pvd2006> and it says everything is undeclared
[09:12] <fluxt> pvd2006: has he install build-essential ?
[09:12] <tritium> pvd2006: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:12] <Dr|J> where do i type what you told me to
[09:12] <pvd2006> let me see
[09:12] <tritium> Dr|J: what did I tell you?
[09:13] <kingspawn> pvd2006, has he got //usr/include/stdio.h?
[09:13] <gurdder> have to restart ill let you know if what I just did works
[09:13] <kingspawn> ah, yes, people are on it.
[09:13] <_ryan> any1 know what files i need for Kaffeine to play mkv files?
[09:14] <mrkoje> Anyone might have a clue on how I could put Ubuntu Live on a USB thumbdrive and boot from there?
[09:14] <mrkoje> Instead of a CD?
[09:14] <kingspawn> and i didn't mean to throw in an extra /
[09:14] <jimcooncat> looking for an online command builder, like help with picking options for "tar"
[09:14] <viller> hi
[09:14] <pvd2006> hes doing it right now
[09:14] <pvd2006> hopefully, this will work,
[09:14] <kingspawn> jimcooncat, huh?
[09:14] <viller> i want to install compiz, but there is no package of it in the repositories?
[09:14] <fluxt> jimcooncat: man tar
[09:14] <kingspawn> pvd2006, if he didnt have build-essential, it will.,
[09:15] <fluxt> i'm feeling confident kingspawn
[09:15] <Dr|J> tritium hold on
[09:15] <jimcooncat> yes fluxt, a front-end to man that will help me with the choices
[09:15] <kingspawn> fluxt, me too :)
[09:15] <pvd2006> ok I Am doing a pastebin
[09:15] <fluxt> jimcooncat: front end to man is konqueror man:tar
[09:15] <pvd2006> he got an error
[09:16] <pvd2006> for that
[09:16] <fluxt> !konqueror
[09:16] <ubotu> [konqueror]  the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org
[09:16] <jimcooncat> :-) guess I don't know how to phrase my question
[09:16] <viller> i want to install compiz, but there is no package of it in the repositories?
[09:16] <mrkoje> Hello?
[09:17] <fluxt> riddle me this.. what error, pvd2006?
[09:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: then you will have to wait untill dapper
[09:17] <Dr|J> tritium u said s/ect/etc
[09:17] <pvd2006> fluxt, http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/46010
[09:17] <jimcooncat> fluxt, that is a nicer view than man on the command line, thanks
[09:17] <pvd2006> it has the error
[09:17] <pvd2006> its pretty big for an error to paste onto here
[09:17] <viller> kamping_kaiser: but there's a tutorial on ubuntuforums!? why is it there?
[09:18] <fluxt> jimcooncat: npz
[09:18] <tritium> Dr|J: oh, your command failed because you didn't type the directory name correctly.  You need to substitute "etc" where you had "ect"
[09:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: xgl only works on dapper
[09:18] <viller> kamping_kaiser: I hear this for the first time, why haven't anyone said this before!?
[09:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: you havent asked? :)
[09:19] <viller> why do they make thos stupid fckng tutorials if you can't even use them?
[09:19] <Dr|J> ahh
[09:19] <tritium> viller: language!
[09:19] <fluxt> pvd2006: are you sure he did sudo apt-get install build-essential && #including the sudo bit?
[09:19] <tritium> viller: that was in the mailing lists
[09:19] <Dr|J> lol i always do that tritium
[09:20] <tritium> Dr|J: tab-completion is your friend.
[09:20] <pvd2006> fluxt, so he needs to type in exactly sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:20] <viller> can't I add dapper repositories or something? There's no way to install compiz?
[09:20] <pvd2006> right?
[09:20] <mylo> anybody ever tried network backup with mondo ?
[09:20] <tritium> viller: if you upgrade to dapper, you can
[09:20] <fluxt> pvd2006: yeah
[09:20] <Dr|J> cool thanx tritium
[09:20] <viller> but i don't want dapper
[09:21] <tritium> then you'll have to wait for Xgl
[09:21] <pvd2006> fluxt, that is what he used as a command  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:21] <pvd2006> fluxt, its giving him the same error
[09:22] <tritium> sure, Dr|J :)
[09:22] <fluxt> pvd2006: that is so strange.. how about sudo apt-get install libc-dev
[09:22] <kingspawn> pvd2006, try via synaptic. sometimes apt-get gets all up in your face.
[09:23] <pvd2006> ok so just search for, build-essential in synaptic
[09:23] <kingspawn> its in development, or just search
[09:23] <Mantice> Hey guys
[09:23] <kingspawn> regrettably im in windows right now, since Im at work
[09:24] <kingspawn> 'ello Mantice
[09:24] <Mantice> Im having a massive problem with ubuntu :)
[09:24] <Mantice> My computer dont over heat in ubuntu :)
[09:24] <fluxt> Mantice: i can fix that
[09:24] <jimcooncat> Mantice, keeps you warm
[09:24] <Mantice> Yeah
[09:25] <ngoatos> Hi, could anybody help me in setting up an external hardware modem. When dialling out I first have to dial the ISP number and then after about 7 seconds of voice I have to enter a password before the phone connects. I have not yet found out how to set up this sequence and I dont see any references to the problem in the wiki.
[09:25] <Mantice> My computer CPU went to 100 degress in windows man
[09:25] <Mantice> and Ive only been in windows for 10 days max
[09:25] <Mantice> lucky it dident burn the mighty amd 64 out :)
[09:25] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, there's a pause command in the at command set, don't recall what it is
[09:25] <fluxt> ngoatos: is it a dial pin?
[09:25] <DBO> 100 F wont burn out the CPU
[09:25] <Mantice> 100 c
[09:26] <DBO> the sensor must have been reading wrong
[09:26] <Dr|J> damnit
[09:26] <pvd2006> KingSpawn, Fluxt, he tried it in synaptic and got the same error just like he did with apt get for essential-build
[09:26] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, oh yes, I think a comma for every two seconds
[09:26] <gurdder> well, it seems that when i pull up my ATI control panel at least it's giving me all the info and it seems that the drivers are installed. How do I test it?  The 3D screensavers are still ultra-slow
[09:26] <fluxt> pvd2006: try libc-dev
[09:26] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, you might be able to specify it right in the phone number
[09:26] <Mantice> Well I could smell it burning and the heat sink was so hot I burnt my self on it
[09:26] <kingspawn> pvd2006, have him try some different combinations of the development tools then. like fluxt is saying, try libc-dev
[09:26] <Mantice> and the computer turned off :(
[09:26] <kingspawn> Mantice, then its usually time to take action
[09:27] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, like 18885551212,,,,7
[09:27] <DBO> Mantice: The OS would not effect that...
[09:27] <Mantice> It only happens in Windows
[09:27] <Mantice> Maybe because I had speed fan on
[09:27] <fluxt> kingspawn: i'm wondering if his apt is broken
[09:27] <Mantice> and it stoped a fan for ages
[09:27] <DBO> Mantice: turning off the CPU fan is a bad idea
[09:27] <DBO> its there for a reason
[09:27] <Mantice> I dident DBO
[09:27] <pvd2006> fluxt, kingspawn, its a list that says, dietlibc-dev, and libuclibc-dev w
[09:27] <CarinArr> heh
[09:27] <pvd2006> which one?
[09:28] <Mantice> I left all fans on 100%
[09:28] <Mantice> I think a programs doing something in the backaround
[09:28] <CarinArr> is there a reason why you installed a particular program for dealing with the fans?
[09:28] <Mantice> In about 10 min my cpu fan screems
[09:28] <fluxt> jimcooncat: you're memory of AT commands is astounding :)
[09:28] <DBO> your computer still shouldnt be overheating at 100% load...  did you mount the heatsink yourself?
[09:29] <jimcooncat> fluxt, modem project from 12 years ago :-)
[09:29] <Mantice> DBO I meant 100% fan speed
[09:29] <davidr> lol
[09:29] <Mantice> My computer in windows idles at 51 degrees
[09:29] <fluxt> pvd2006: sudo apt-get install libc-dev
[09:29] <DBO> Mantice: I know, but nothing software can do short of turning off fans should cause your PC to overheat
[09:29] <jimcooncat> now if I could just remember the tar arguments
[09:29] <DBO> (or overclocking)
[09:30] <kingspawn> fluxt: yes, this seems very strange.
[09:30] <kingspawn> pvd2006, have him look at his sources.list and compare it with something from help.ubuntu.com
[09:30] <fluxt> pvd2006: better yet.. sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[09:30] <kingspawn> or somewhere along those lines
[09:31] <fluxt> pvd2006: also, perhaps your friend should get on xchat a talk here also
[09:31] <ngoatos> Thanks Jimcooncat and Fluxt. In windows I use a comma for the pause command but Linux seems to interpret the comma differently. I am a prepaid customer and so i have to send a single digit account number and a four digit password.
[09:31] <Mantice> any thing above 51 degrees makes my cpu fan screem in about 10 min into windows the fan starts screeming the cpu temps are like 49 to 51 and the fan keeps reving up and down.... In Ubuntu I dont know what my cpu temps are but some times the fan turns OFF :) and its not geting hot what so ever.
[09:31] <pvd2006> fluxt, kingspawn, none of those are working for him:-\, errors errors, Maybe he needs to add more respositories?
[09:31] <rofl-waffle> Where do I set up my network interfaces on a server?
[09:32] <pvd2006> ok Ill tell him
[09:32] <DBO> sounds like you had an issue in windows where your CPU was constantly under full load...
[09:32] <fluxt> Mantice: my cpu temp is at 54c usually, 60c when hot
[09:32] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, you'd have to use a connection script -- I don't have that knowledge how to do in linux
[09:32] <DBO> Mantice, you can get lm_sensors to check your CPU tempurature in ubuntu
[09:32] <Mantice> some times 70 degrees when my computer is playing games for 2 -3 hours
[09:32] <pvd2006> maybe his kernel isnt updated?
[09:33] <pvd2006> whats the command to update kernel
[09:33] <pvd2006> or distro
[09:33] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, the script would look for prompts from your server, like "user" and "pass" and enter your items accordingly
[09:33] <DBO> Mantice: You have serious cooling issues, you should do something about them
[09:33] <Mantice> but I played for 5 hours with my computer idling for 15 days
[09:33] <fluxt> Mantice: AMD Althlon XP ?
[09:33] <Mantice> AMD 64 3000+
[09:33] <pvd2006> I know its ap-get distro or something
[09:33] <pvd2006> apt-get
[09:33] <pvd2006> *
[09:33] <Mantice> Why is it fine in ubuntu though
[09:33] <tritium> pvd2006: are you sure there's an updated kernel package to be installed?
[09:33] <fluxt> Mantice: hmm, it's a little hotter than you'd like at 70 thats for sure
[09:34] <pvd2006> im not 100% sure
[09:34] <pvd2006> but it might be worth a shot
[09:34] <tritium> pvd2006: please run "uname -r"
[09:34] <pvd2006> ?
[09:34] <Fujitsu> apt-get dist-upgrade, pvd2006?
[09:34] <tritium> !tell pvd2006 about enter
[09:34] <kingspawn> pvd2006, have him have a look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[09:34] <Mantice> how to I install lm_sensors?
[09:35] <DBO> apt-get install lm_sensors
[09:35] <DBO> I believe
[09:35] <DBO> erm, "sudo apt-get install lm_sensors"
[09:35] <pvd2006> well
[09:35] <jimcooncat> /etc/chatscripts/provider might be some help
[09:35] <pvd2006> as I though, he isnt up to date
[09:35] <jimcooncat> try man:pppconfig
[09:35] <pvd2006> hes running kernel version 2.6.12-9-386
[09:35] <liquidindian> !ntfs
[09:35] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:35] <kingspawn> DBO, the sudo drives me nuts sometimes.. :)
[09:35] <pvd2006> so I guess he needs to update his kernel
[09:36] <fluxt> pvd2006: that's not the problem
[09:36] <DBO> kingspawn, you can do a sudo -s for a single session, cut down on the sudoing
[09:36] <kingspawn> pvd2006, the update will be minimal, its not got anything to do with his current problem
[09:36] <DBO> though, you probably knew that...
[09:36] <Mantice> apt-get install lm_sensors
[09:36] <Mantice> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[09:36] <DBO> hmmm
[09:36] <DBO> what was it...
[09:36] <kingspawn> dbo: yeah. actually, I've enabled the root account ;)
[09:36] <fluxt> pvd2006: check he has an internet connection while you're at it
[09:36] <Mantice> Hold on I think im fixing
[09:36] <Mantice> it
[09:36] <kingspawn> fluxt ;)
[09:36] <DBO> kingspawn, had to do that for my nvidia drivers
[09:36] <pvd2006> fluxt, he does
[09:36] <pvd2006> Ill tell him to come in here
[09:37] <fluxt> back in 4
[09:37] <tritium> Good night, folks
[09:37] <kingspawn> DBO: yeah, heh. i do alot of twiddling around, so I like to have the root account enabled
[09:37] <DBO> Mantice,, "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"
[09:37] <z33> fluxt, im having the problem
[09:38] <z33> im with pvd
[09:38] <DBO> kingspawn, I dont twiddle enough to ever need su where sudo wont do
[09:38] <pvd2006> kingspawn, this is my friend who is having the problem
[09:38] <DBO> hope to get that good some day though
[09:38] <Mantice> Yeah, I did Ubuntu is having a fight with unable to get some repositry files, Im just updating
[09:38] <kingspawn> pvd2006, i see
[09:38] <z33> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade didnt find anything to install
[09:38] <ngoatos> Jimcooncat, thanks. Any idea where I start looking for information on how to write connection scripts?
[09:39] <kingspawn> z33: look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[09:40] <firepol> hi there, is anybody here using Firefox 1.5 on ubuntu breezy?
[09:40] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, looks like you can do it with "sudo pppconfig"
[09:40] <fluxt> pvd2006: you might want to get him to pastebin /etc/apt/sources.lis
[09:40] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, select chat when you get into it
[09:40] <firepol> my problem is that i cant configure it so that when it's already open: if i click again the firefox icon it will load a new instance... how can i get the new links to be loaded into tabs in the same firefox instance?
[09:40] <fluxt> z33: oh see message to pvd2006
[09:40] <Mantice> Firepol, I tryed but I was to much of a n00b to get it working, instead it screwed up my old ubuntu firefox :) and it took me hours to fix it :)
[09:40] <firepol> i have the same problem with bluefish editor
[09:41] <fluxt> z33: that was meant to be  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:41] <DBO> kingspawn, is there any way I can tell synaptics to ignore gaim (I installed 2.0 beta from CVS and its trying to downgrade me)
[09:41] <firepol> Mantice, i simply followed a huide in the ubuntu wiki and it works perfectly
[09:41] <firepol> just this issuie
[09:41] <Mantice> Congrats :)
[09:42] <Mantice> The gudes dont work for me :)
[09:42] <firepol> Mantice: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:42] <Mantice> Yeah, Thanks Ill pass
[09:42] <ngoatos> Jimcooncat, Thanks I will try and use pppconfig.
[09:42] <firepol> Mantice: i have followed that guide step by step and i use firefox 1.5
[09:42] <Mantice> Ubuntu will update there firefox soon enough
[09:43] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, I'm a real noob and don't even know if that's the proper place
[09:43] <firepol> soon enough isnt enough soon for me ;)
[09:43] <Mantice> I use to be a update freek but I just stay uptodate with ubuntus updates
[09:43] <pvd2006> fluxt, here is z33's pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10382
[09:43] <jimcooncat> ngoatos, only run it once before
[09:43] <pvd2006> his etc/apt/sources.list
[09:44] <Mantice> E: Couldn't find package lm_sensors
[09:44] <Mantice>  ????
[09:44] <jimcooncat> I'm looking forward to the new epiphany, anyone play with it here?
[09:44] <fek> moin
[09:44] <kingspawn> DBO: I'm not sure, I never had the need. But if there isn't I'd be mighty surprised :)
[09:45] <kingspawn> Mantice, i think he said lm-sensors
[09:45] <DBO> Mantice, yeah, I was wrong the firstime, its a dash, not an underscore
[09:45] <Mantice> Thanks kingspawn, n00b moment :)
[09:45] <kingspawn> :)
[09:45] <Mantice> ok :)
[09:45] <Mantice> What do I do onces its installed ?
[09:46] <DBO> erm... it was sensor-detect or something errather
[09:46] <DBO> lemme look
[09:46] <fluxt> what is the difference between hoary and breezy, hoary = prior version?
[09:46] <kingspawn> Im not a GUI kind of guy, but holy c* this compiz-stuff looks good.
[09:46] <kingspawn> fluxt, yes
[09:47] <DBO> well, if you dont mind having it VERY poorly formatted
[09:47] <DBO> you just type "sensor-detect" in console (might need sudo)
[09:47] <DBO> and it should configure itself
[09:47] <pvd2006> fluxt, I think I know the problem, I think I accidently gave me the wrong source.list... and its not getting the right packages or is missing sources for certain packages.
[09:47] <pvd2006> I used the ubuntu guide, but when I did it  I used a different guide
[09:47] <pvd2006> mine works fine
[09:47] <Mantice> Nah, That dident work
[09:48] <kingspawn> pvd2006, never use ubuntuguide!
[09:48] <DBO> Mantice, type "sudo sensor-detect"
[09:48] <pvd2006> lol, alright kingspawn
[09:48] <DBO> then type "sensor"
[09:48] <Mantice> command not found
[09:48] <DBO> hmmm
[09:48] <kingspawn> pvd2006, if he's got breezy, no wonder he cant get apt-get to behave with that sources.list
[09:48] <fluxt> pvd2006: is he running hoary?
[09:49] <pvd2006> for the soruce?
[09:49] <pvd2006> source
[09:49] <pvd2006> or kernel?
[09:49] <fluxt> the install was breezy or hoary?
[09:49] <pvd2006> confused<. the install of the operating system?
[09:49] <pvd2006> sorry
[09:49] <jimcooncat> anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here: " tar --list hda1.boot.tgz" ?
[09:50] <fluxt> pvd2006: yep
[09:50] <DBO> Mantice, my bad, its "sudo sensors-detect"
[09:50] <DBO> there is an extra s on there
[09:50] <fluxt> jimcooncat: the file is compressed, you need -z probably
[09:50] <firepol> so isn't there anybody here having problems to load new files into the same instance of an already openm program, e.g. bluefish editor?
[09:50] <pvd2006> fluxt, he doesnt know. Is there a command to find out?
[09:50] <DBO> Mantice, just give it a big yes for everything, it will ask you at some point ISA or or SMBus, I used ISA
[09:51] <fluxt> pvd2006: probably ;)
[09:51] <DBO> oh great... the one guy I can help left:-P
[09:51] <pvd2006> ok
[09:51] <pvd2006> he said hes running breezy
[09:51] <pvd2006> fluxt
[09:51] <fluxt> pvd2006: then he has the wrong sources.list
[09:51] <pvd2006> oh?
[09:52] <fluxt> pvd2006: i could pastebin mine, but it contains all addon stuff
[09:52] <pvd2006> da** you z33! lol
[09:52] <pvd2006> thats ok
[09:52] <pvd2006> itll work
[09:52] <pvd2006> lol
[09:52] <fluxt> pvd2006: you might as well give him yours
[09:52] <fluxt> z33: are you alive?
[09:53] <Mantice> What did you say I should Use for sudo sensors-detect?
[09:53] <jimcooncat> fluxt, got it " tar --list --file=hda1.boot.tgz"
[09:53] <pvd2006> im not using his version
[09:53] <z33> fluxt, ya im here, switching back and forth from 2 comps
[09:53] <kingspawn> pvd2006, i have given you a link to a nice sources.list two or three times now.
[09:53] <fluxt> jimcooncat: interesting
[09:53] <kingspawn> he could exchange his sources.list for that one
[09:53] <fluxt> z33: Jawohl!
[09:54] <pvd2006> sorry kingspawn, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[09:54] <pvd2006> ?
[09:54] <candyman> exit
[09:55] <kingspawn> pvd2006, yes
[09:55] <pvd2006> ok thanks
[09:55] <fluxt> pvd2006: does the code in those 'code' boxes on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672 show up as white to you or is it just me
[09:55] <pvd2006> its black for me
[09:56] <fluxt> pvd2006: hmm, was a font sizing issue nvm
[09:56] <pvd2006> ok so hes using a amd64 processor, that doesnt make a differene right?
[09:56] <pvd2006> difference
[09:56] <baubau> bonjour
[09:56] <fluxt> pvd2006: i wouldn't think so
[09:56] <pvd2006> he average desktop user has no ppc or amd64. So this sources.list isn't intended for those architectures. For people who have amd64 see this post : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost...6&postcount=65
[09:57] <fluxt> pvd2006: yeah, but still
[09:57] <pvd2006> does that matter if hes running the 32bit version
[09:57] <pvd2006> ohok
[09:57] <tomosaka> nihao
[09:57] <Mantice> Its a bit getto if you use 64 bit ubunto because like not having flash will make you kill people
[09:57] <DBO> Oh yay!  I figured out the problem with lirc
[09:57] <tomosaka> dajiahao
[09:57] <tomosaka> I am chinese
[09:58] <Fujitsu> !ch
[09:58] <ubotu> Fujitsu: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:58] <fluxt> pvd2006: apparently you're better off running 32bit as most packages are buggy in 64bit, just what i hear
[09:58] <Mantice> Whats the best program to use your tv capture card ???
[09:58] <tomosaka> are you janpese
[09:58] <pvd2006> yes
[09:58] <DBO> Mantice, I like MythTV
[09:58] <Mantice> fluxt, I have not come across that
[09:59] <Mantice> Myth TV ,eh I herd of that
[09:59] <fluxt> Mantice: some people have, not with the kernel, X, or gnome but other apps/packages
[09:59] <Mantice> I had the screen saver box where you pick your screen saver crash :)
[09:59] <tomosaka> ajsdklfjasdklfjkasldjflasdkjfklasd
[09:59] <tomosaka> kjdflkjalskdfjlasdkfjlaskdjf
[09:59] <tomosaka> kljasdlkfjaslkjdfklasdjflkasjdlfkjasdlkfj
[09:59] <fluxt> i agree tomosaka
[09:59] <tomosaka> fuck
[10:00] <Mantice> And I get this really cool error message called kernal panic :) when playing games some times
[10:00] <tomosaka> why?
[10:00] <fluxt> ubotu: tell tomosaka bout #jibberish
[10:00] <tomosaka> shit
[10:00] <tomosaka> fuck
[10:00] <fluxt> !ops
[10:00] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[10:01] <FeestBijtje> any one knows an good ubuntu faq with faq's to configure my machine?
[10:01] <rob> too quick for me!
[10:01] <pvd2006> I think I am going to use this source list too!
[10:01] <rob> !faqguide
[10:01] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rob
[10:01] <pvd2006> I dont have the plf and such in mine
[10:01] <rob> bah
[10:01] <rob> !desktopguide
[10:01] <ubotu> rob: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:01] <fluxt> ty Seveas, Hobbsee
[10:01] <aquarius> Can I, on an ATI laptop, use both the laptop screen and an external monitor at different resolutions without using the fglrx driver?
[10:01] <FeestBijtje> !Ubnutu faq
[10:01] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FeestBijtje
[10:01] <Seveas> !faq
[10:01] <ubotu> The most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look
[10:02] <DBO> aquarius, that will depend on your video card
[10:02] <rob> FeestBijtje, see http://help.ubuntu.com
[10:02] <FeestBijtje> thnx rob that was the one i was looking for *hugs)
[10:02] <rob> np
[10:02] <aquarius> DBO: how can I find out whether my card will support it? (It's a Radeon Xpress 200M)
[10:03] <ChrisBradley> ++++++ :) Kubuntu Live CD.
[10:03] <Greg|> do you know the list of colors for /lib/lsb/init-functions
[10:03] <Greg|> ?
[10:03] <fluxt> aquarius: if you drop it in a bucket and it sinks, the card should be supported
[10:03] <tomosaka> hi
[10:03] <aquarius> fluxt: let's assume that I've done that and it sunk, then. :)
[10:03] <tomosaka> hello
[10:03] <Seveas> tomosaka, please behave this time
[10:04] <ChrisBradley> Thank you for saving my beat up old box...!
[10:04] <fluxt> aquarius: good, now all you have to do is reinstall the card underwater
[10:04] <feestbijtje> !faq
[10:04] <ubotu> The most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look
[10:04] <Greg|> mhm
[10:04] <rob> !desktopguide
[10:04] <ubotu> I heard desktopguide is found on http://help.ubuntu.com and is the definitive guide to configuring your Ubuntu PC!
[10:04] <tomosaka> I am chinese
[10:04] <ChrisBradley> Adept rox!
[10:05] <fluxt> !ch
[10:05] <ubotu> fluxt: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:05] <tomosaka> so I don't speak english
[10:05] <Seveas> !faq =~ s/look/look - see also !desktopguide/
[10:05] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[10:05] <fluxt> !teall tomosaka about ch
[10:05] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fluxt
[10:05] <fluxt> tomosaka: neither do i
[10:05] <Seveas> tomosaka, try #ubuntu-zh or #ubuntu-cn
[10:05] <rob> cheers Seveas
[10:05] <aquarius> fluxt: well, cheers for the help.
[10:05] <Seveas> fluxt, ch == switzerland ;)
[10:06] <tomosaka> no china
[10:06] <fluxt> aquarius: sorry i missed the original question ;)
[10:06] <Greg|> [;
[10:06] <fluxt> Seveas: it's all greek to me :)
[10:06] <Seveas> fluxt, 
[10:06] <aquarius> fluxt: I'm trying to work out whether I can run my laptop screen and my external monitor as two parts of the same screen but at different resolutions without using fglrx
[10:06] <tomosaka> da jia hao
[10:07] <tomosaka> wo shi zhongguo  ren
[10:07] <fluxt> aquarius: i suggest you tap that question into google along with the driver xorg is using and see what you come up with
[10:08] <Mantice> How do I fix Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3) but it is not installable ???
[10:08] <pvd2006> that win32codec
[10:08] <pvd2006> sudo apt-get install win32codecs
[10:08] <pvd2006> ?
[10:09] <Seveas> Mantice, not. What are you installing?
[10:09] <fluxt> pvd2006: did you get his apt working?
[10:09] <pvd2006> yep
[10:09] <Mantice> Myth T.V
[10:09] <pvd2006> thanks a lot!
[10:09] <aquarius> fluxt: have done that already, and not got very far, which is why I thought to ask here
[10:09] <fluxt> thats ok
[10:09] <Mantice> Myth T.V depends on that then this ><
[10:09] <Seveas> Mantice, grab an ubuntu package instead of a debian package - deb.thehunter.ws is a good source
[10:09] <pvd2006> Thanks flux and kingspawn
[10:10] <Mantice> What do you want me to do ?
[10:10] <pvd2006> fluxt, just one more question
[10:10] <pvd2006> to install win32codecs
[10:10] <pvd2006> its just sudo apt-get install win32codecs
[10:10] <pvd2006> right?
[10:10] <Seveas> w32codecs
[10:10] <fluxt> aquarius: i hear multi-monitor support is pretty rare, google has the best resource on compatibility that way but you can keep prodding every now and again to see if anyone knows
[10:10] <Seveas> and you need a repo with those
[10:11] <rofl-waffle> Is there a console tool for browsing available packages?
[10:11] <fluxt> a repo?
[10:11] <aquarius> fluxt: ah, OK. I've found a few hints, but I'm pretty confused at this point. :)
[10:11] <Seveas> rofl-waffle, aptitude
[10:11] <rofl-waffle> thanks
[10:12] <Mantice> Seveas how to I change to a ubuntu packages
[10:12] <fluxt> aquarius: have you got multi-monitor working on another OS before?
[10:13] <aquarius> fluxt: nope. not run another OS before.
[10:13] <fluxt> aquarius: ok, so what's the model of the laptop and the video card?
[10:14] <aquarius> fluxt: laptop is an HP Pavilion dv5052ea. Card is an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M (RS480).
[10:14] <fluxt> aquarius: i'll have a look see...
[10:15] <thomas_> hi folks, is is somehow possible to search for files (e.g. in the shell) which have an invalid utf-8 encoding?
[10:15] <Yuki|away> !zh
[10:15] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Yuki|away
[10:16] <fluxt> aquarius: i don't see any mention at all for dual monitor support for that laptop under any OS
[10:16] <Mantice> Any one here do this thing where you can use a another screen with a usb keyboard and a mouse and its like having another computer
[10:17] <aquarius> fluxt: not much mention for that laptop on google full stop, which is why I'm asking questions ;)
[10:17] <feestbijtje> aight i am on a quest to install java but there is 1 slight problem
[10:17] <aquarius> fluxt: and there are about four million different types of 200M Radeons, afaict, and everyone says "just use fglrx" :)
[10:17] <fluxt> aquarius: just becauase you have a vga out and a laptop screen rarely means you can use dual monitors, actually i matched the 10+ pages on google
[10:17] <feestbijtje> root@darkritual:~/Desktop# fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:17] <feestbijtje> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[10:18] <gnomefreak> feestbijtje: use the java .debs its easier
[10:18] <gnomefreak> !javadebs
[10:18] <feestbijtje> gnomefreak, where to get it
[10:18] <feestbijtje> !javadebs
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell feestbijtje about javadebs
[10:18] <aquarius> feestbijtje: make-jpkg is in the java-package package, which you'll need to install, unless you use the java .debs directly.
[10:18] <gnomefreak> feestbijtje: your pm
[10:19] <Mantice> Is writing to NTFS Drive supported yet ?
[10:19] <feestbijtje> lol
[10:19] <kingspawn> Mantice, i'd stay off it
[10:19] <feestbijtje> aight thank you people ^^
[10:19] <gnomefreak> Mantice: not in breezy
[10:19] <fluxt> Mantice: not properly and kinda scarily
[10:19] <Tempest2k> anybody got xgl working on flight 5
[10:19] <Mantice> Does this mean its possable ^_^ :)
[10:19] <gnomefreak> Tempest2k: alot of people they can help you in #xgl-ubuntu
[10:20] <kingspawn> Mantice, anything is possible.
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Mantice: its possible but not recommended at all
[10:20] <fluxt> Mantice: you can write files but not change the size, create or delete files
[10:20] <Tempest2k> thanks friend
[10:20] <fluxt> Mantice: and then it still comes with a warning
[10:20] <jimcooncat> Mantice, can you write to fat32 and pick your files up from there when you're in windows?
[10:20] <fluxt> Mantice: your best bet is fat32 for shared drive access
[10:21] <Mantice> I can read ntfs
[10:21] <fluxt> yep
[10:21] <Mantice> Id
[10:21] <Mantice> But If I did that windows would go crazy?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[10:21] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:21] <Mantice> I allready mounted em thanks gnomefreak
[10:22] <jimcooncat> Mantice, Captive should be the appropriate tool, but I haven't used it
[10:22] <Mantice> I thought there was no way to get from NTSF ---> Fat
[10:22] <Mantice> I really dont want to screw it up
[10:22] <kingspawn> back up your ntfs data, reformat to fat32, put the data back, go nuts
[10:22] <fluxt> Mantice: well, i'm not sure about conversion and having windows be happy
[10:22] <jimcooncat> Mantice, you should use NTSF for you windows, not fat32
[10:23] <fluxt> Mantice: conversion followed by a windows reinstall would work
[10:23] <fluxt> jimcooncat: why?
[10:23] <jimcooncat> Mantice, but make yourself a fat32 partition for sharing
[10:23] <fluxt> that's what i did
[10:24] <zoo> with dapper, hotplugging usb storage devices does not work any more. I am using udev and a selfbuilt kernel. any ideas?
[10:24] <fluxt> still i wish i made the windows drive fat32 also
[10:24] <jimcooncat> fat32 is a bitch to maintain if you have a lot of usage -- not so bad though if you're a grandma though
[10:24] <Mantice> I have 120 gb for windows ------- 250 gb hd for movies / music ----------- 40 gb seagate for ubuntu
[10:24] <fluxt> jimcooncat: it's not so bad if you partition your drive
[10:25] <Mantice> Would fat32 be good for my 250 gb hdd ?
[10:25] <fluxt> Mantice: well the max fat32 size is somewhere between 20 and 40 gig, i can't remember exactly
[10:25] <Healot> YES... if you want insecurity and easy access to others :)
[10:25] <jimcooncat> fluxt, I'd install the windows on ntfs, but mount the "Documents and Settings" on fat32 if I was to reinstall
[10:25] <Tempest2k> 32 gig
[10:25] <fluxt> there go go lol
[10:26] <Tempest2k> you can make bigger fat32 parts
[10:26] <sickdude> hi all
[10:26] <Mantice> >< Im going crazy
[10:26] <jimcooncat> I think there's drivers for read/write to reiserfs for windows, but i dont recall exactly
[10:26] <fluxt> jimcooncat: you'd never want windows to see linux ;)
[10:27] <enyc> you can have much more than 32gb on fat32 ... win winnt5/5.1 won't format a fat32 over about 32gb... but will work with it fineeee
[10:27] <Tempest2k> ubuntu seems very simalar to debian is it based on debian ?
[10:27] <enyc> Tempest2k: yes it is....
[10:27] <Mantice> Yeah it is
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Tempest2k: yes
[10:27] <enyc> Tempest2k: but not everything is derived from a debian package etc.
[10:27] <sickdude> is this the right chan for server questions?
[10:27] <fluxt> enyc: any idea on the max partition size if you mkfs.vfat ?
[10:28] <Tempest2k> good im used to debian and im on a xgl mission
[10:28] <Mantice> Artical on Linux.com Automatix kicks Ubuntu into gear
[10:28] <Sp4rKy> hi
[10:28] <gnomefreak> sickdude: relating to ubuntu yes if we cant answer we might beable to send you somewhere that can
[10:28] <sickdude> cool :)
[10:28] <enyc> fluxt: erm remember you need to -F 32  or something to set fat32 type...
[10:28] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[10:28] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[10:29] <sickdude> im reinstalling my webserver but i cant seem to get a password for root in mysqladmin
[10:29] <jimcooncat> gnomefreak, wished I'd seen that sooner about automatix, thanks
[10:29] <fluxt> gnomefreak: what is that echo command doing?
[10:29] <sickdude> there was something sepcial with this
[10:29] <sickdude> but i cant remember
[10:29] <Mantice> No problem :)
[10:29] <Beleys> Poy
[10:30] <Mantice> automatrix dont work with 64 bit ---- WHY ME !
[10:30] <gnomefreak> jimcooncat: easyubuntu is safer but still eh  much better to do it manully most of things that they install we have debs for
[10:30] <enyc> fluxt: I think a fat32 can go very large... 2tb apparetnly... BUT and file cannot be larger than 4gb
[10:31] <enyc> fluxt: _anf_ file cannot be larger than 4gb
[10:31] <enyc> fluxt: _any_ file cannot be larger than 4gb
[10:31] <Mantice>  I have 5 gb files :(
[10:31] <jimcooncat> gnomefreak, I'm reinstalling now anyway, but when I ran automatix I didn't like what I saw it doing
[10:31] <fluxt> enyc: yeah being 32bit 4gb seems logical for file size
[10:31] <enyc> fluxt: thats a different matter
[10:32] <rofl-waffle> Any ideas why I can't apt-get snort? It's apparently not in my package tree, do I need to update it or soemthing?
[10:32] <kingspawn> Mantice, why do you have 5 gb files?
[10:32] <enyc> fluxt: the directory entry header (same as fat12/fat16 essentially) has a 32bit field for filesize and a 32bit field for starting-cluster  basically.. I think
[10:32] <fluxt> kingspawn: dvd rips probably
[10:33] <gnomefreak> rofl-waffle: its in the universe repo
[10:33] <rofl-waffle> And how do I get that?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rofl-waffle about universe
[10:33] <gnomefreak> rofl-waffle: read your pm please
[10:33] <kingspawn> fluxt, ah, i see. i'm old fashioned, i hate things that big (sometimes i have nightmares about getting windows 95 on floppies)
[10:33] <enyc> fluxt: the fileseze field and the size of the cluster nomber  pointer are entirely separate ;-)
[10:33] <fluxt> enyc: and the max cluster size = 32bit?
[10:33] <rofl-waffle> thanks
[10:33] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:34] <Mantice> Kingspawn, ... stuff :)
[10:34] <sickdude> the IRC link isnt correct on the main ubuntu page btw, it links you to the mailinglist page
[10:34] <Mantice> Kingspawn, Fedoracore 4 is nearly 4 gb
[10:34] <gnomefreak> sickdude: what page
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu.com?
[10:35] <Mantice> Kingspawn, And pure dvd rips are like 8 gb :)
[10:35] <sickdude> ubuntulinux.org
[10:35] <kingspawn> Mantice, *shudder* :)
[10:35] <revolutionary> anyone want to come to Iraq to clean up america's holocaust?
[10:35] <revolutionary> with me
[10:35] <Healot> yo...
[10:35] <fluxt> enyc: if the cluster size storage is a dword then the max size would be 18446744065119617025
[10:35] <Whatsisname> rofl
[10:35] <Healot> ubuntu related question only, please... we need those
[10:36] <sickdude> gnomefreak: ubuntulinux.org
[10:36] <Whatsisname> lol what a pansy
[10:36] <Tempest2k> soulds like a nice holiday lol
[10:36] <kingspawn> what this channel needs is politics on top of the other chaos
[10:37] <Yuki|away> kingspawn, I think that might slaughter Freenode's bandwidth. :)
[10:37] <Mantice> Some time's this channel needs to get a bit off topic
[10:37] <gnomefreak> sickdude: i see what you mean but we cant change that if you click the link than on right hand side you will see irc click that
[10:37] <Yuki|away> Mantice, I guess everyone goes to -offtopic. P
[10:37] <Yuki|away> xp*
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Mantice: thats what #ubuntu-offtopic was made for
[10:38] <Mantice> No one talks in there though
[10:38] <sickdude> gnomefreak: just letting you know :)
[10:38] <kingspawn> Yuki|away, hehe, yes it probably would ;)
[10:38] <Mantice> Theres like a message every hour
[10:38] <gnomefreak> ty sickdude i will let the right people know
[10:38] <sickdude> just helping out
[10:39] <Yuki|away> Mantice, it livens up sometimes.
[10:39] <Mantice> Yeah. I saw some guys fighting about a blog
[10:39] <Mantice> like really fighting
[10:39] <Mantice> about the definition of a blog lol
[10:40] <DBO> O_o
[10:40] <DBO> someone must have forgot their meds
[10:40] <Whatsisname> if i'm not back in 5 minutes
[10:40] <Whatsisname> call a computer ambulance
[10:41] <Mantice> Depends: mythtv-common (=0.17-3) but 0.18.1-5 is to be installed
[10:41] <Mantice>  Depends: libmyth-0.17  but it is not installable
[10:41] <Mantice>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3) but it is not installable
[10:41] <Mantice> I think myth tv is broken :S
[10:43] <Mantice> lol
[10:44] <balay> what do I do with broken packages?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Mantice: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[10:45] <gnomefreak> balay: sudo apt-get -f install  <no package>
[10:45] <Healot> anyone tried Gambas before? does it really need Qt, because when I installed it, it doesn't require Qt...
[10:46] <balay> <no package>  == name of the broken package?
[10:46] <spiritz> Hello; I'm using gnome windows decoration under kde; I'd like to change decoration theme, what is the gnome configuration program I should start?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> balay: no package = dont use a package just use the command
[10:46] <balay> lol ok tks :)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:47] <Mantice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10383
[10:47] <gnomefreak> spiritz: if you have themes use that if not use gnome control panel (dont remember what one kde uses
[10:47] <ChrisBradley> wow - hope this all works - its taking forever to set up
[10:47] <spiritz> gnomefreak: ok I found control control center, I guess it's this one
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Mantice: your poor repos list :( ill give you one to replace yours with
[10:48] <Mantice> Thanks :)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:49] <balay> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/607038 . It didn't work :\
[10:51] <Healot> now I know, Gambas can't really work out 64-bit pointers :)
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Mantice: http://pastebin.com/607042
[10:52] <gnomefreak> balay: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin please i might know the issue
[10:53] <mathieu> hi, i have every locale environment var set to en_US.UTF-8, but the output of the command-line programs is still french. what setting do i need to change?
[10:53] <balay> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/607043
[10:54] <gnomefreak> balay: replace your sources.list with this one please
[10:54] <gnomefreak> balay:  http://pastebin.com/607042
[10:56] <gnomefreak> guys when your done replacing dont forget to run sudo apt-get update
[10:56] <gnomefreak> mathieu: give me 2 secs let me see if i remember the command
[10:57] <gnomefreak> mathieu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales    that should help than restart gnome please
[10:57] <alan|home> b'jour tout le monde
[10:58] <gnomefreak> alan|home: please join #ubuntu-fr for french
[10:58] <Mantice> E: Type '1.' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <Mantice> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:58] <Mantice> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[10:58] <alan|home> gnomefreak: ho, i'm sorry, i thought that was what i had typed...
[10:58] <gnomefreak> Mantice: plaste the new sources.list again please sounds like something like a stray mark
[10:59] <Mantice> Its copying the line numbers :S
[10:59] <canllaith> Gday, anyone know how long before gnome 2.14 packages will be in dapper?
[11:00] <Half-Left> canllaith, they are now
[11:00] <gnomefreak> Mantice: use the white space under the numbered lines to copy and paste
[11:00] <bimberi> !info gnome-about dapper
[11:00] <ubotu> gnome-about: (The GNOME about box), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.13.92-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 223 kB, Installed size: 400 kB
[11:00] <gnomefreak> canllaith: they are already
[11:00] <canllaith> Looks like my mirror hasn't updated then
[11:00] <canllaith> ok thanks guys :)
[11:00] <bimberi> (or ubotu)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> they were uploaded on the 14th
[11:01] <canllaith> tell me, is a dist-upgrade from hoary likely to work ?
[11:01] <balay> gnomefreak: still the same :| but tks anyway
[11:01] <gnomefreak> canllaith: from hoary to what?
[11:01] <canllaith> dapper
[11:01] <Mantice> I fixed it
[11:01] <Mantice> Now it comes up with heaps of messages
[11:01] <gnomefreak> canllaith: no best bet is to upgrade to breezy skipping releases is a good way to bork it all
[11:01] <Mantice> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[11:01] <canllaith> oh well, it's a throwaway box anyway
[11:01] <Mantice> Thats the first one
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Mantice: pastebin the messages please
[11:02] <kingspawn> Mantice, apt-get update, perhaps?
[11:02] <canllaith> gnomefreak: I tried updating to dapper from breeze and that borked very badly, so it seems there isn't really any way that's completely safe.
[11:02] <canllaith> breezy*
[11:02] <Mantice> Im new, I had no idea :0
[11:02] <gnomefreak> canllaith: from breezy to dapper has its issues only because dapper is still in testing has not been released to public yet
[11:03] <gnomefreak> Mantice: anytime you change that list in any way always run apt-get update
[11:03] <canllaith> Yeah, I could use KDE 3.5 - I've just compiled it for the moment but only kdelibs and base. I can't be bothered compiling all of bloody KDE on a laptop right now.
[11:03] <kingspawn> Mantice, as gnomefreak says, it needs to update its lists
[11:03] <gnomefreak> canllaith: use easysource to get the kde 3.5
[11:03] <Healot> Testing version is really meant for testers... not suit for production yet
[11:04] <gnomefreak> no need to compile it
[11:04] <Healot> try to install dapper separately from its previous version
[11:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell canllaith about easysource
[11:04] <canllaith> I doubt you have the latest stuff from trunk so I'm compiling one copy anyway.
[11:04] <Half-Left> ANy notice beagled take all ram?
[11:05] <canllaith> ah, I probably can't use that. There is only one debian mirror in my country and we pay a lot of money to download internationally.
[11:05] <Half-Left> anyone*
[11:05] <gnomefreak> canllaith:  suit yourself but you use the repos for kde 3.5 and you get the updates to go along with it
[11:05] <canllaith> gnomefreak: I sincerely doubt you're packaging the stuff that's as late as I have, I am quite sure you don't have qt4 and trunk, and I can't use a mirror outside of my country. Thank you, but that just doesn't work for me.
[11:05] <firepol> hi there, is it ok to remove the ubuntu-minimal package?
[11:06] <canllaith> I'd like 3.5 packages, but if I can't get them through the normal debian mirror I'll just compile or wait.
[11:06] <firepol> (as i have a fixed ip address im trying to remove the dhcp3 package, which will remove also ubuntu-minimal...)
[11:06] <dobblego> from where can I download the Dapper daily builds?
[11:06] <kingspawn> firepol: i suggest you try it and report back here :)
[11:07] <gnomefreak> canllaith: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main  its a ubuntu mirror
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dobblego about dailybuild
[11:07] <canllaith> It's not in New Zealand, so I can't use it.
[11:07] <dobblego> ta
[11:08] <gnomefreak> dobblego: your pm is a good place to start ;)
[11:08] <firepol> kingspawn: i read the ubuntu-minimal is needed maybe to upgrade some packages
[11:08] <gnomefreak> canllaith: are you using debian or ubuntu?
[11:08] <canllaith> Unless the ubuntu mirror here is mirroring it
[11:08] <canllaith> ubuntu, the people who do the debian mirror here do both
[11:08] <firepol> kingspawn: anyway ill try that
[11:08] <gnomefreak> canllaith: same everywhere for most part
[11:08] <kingspawn> firepol: well, theres nothing stopping you from adding it later maybe. i usually just try :)
[11:08] <Half-Left> deskbar is just awesome with beagle live
[11:09] <Mantice> Could some one give me a command to install myth tv
[11:09] <gnomefreak> Mantice: use synaptic
[11:09] <canllaith> could it be in breezy-backports ?
[11:10] <canllaith> I'm just browsing around the local mirror to see what they have
[11:10] <canllaith> They've got KDE 3.5 packages in a funny directory, but I'm unsure how to add it to my apt sources
[11:11] <Hobbsee> canllaith: hey, dont you usually hang around in #kde, or have i got the people comfused?
[11:11] <Gnabbe> this might be a stupid question but how do I configure sudo so I can use the tools in the administration-menu with my normal user? (gdm is configured so I can't log in with root)
[11:11] <canllaith> Hobbsee: yeah, I'm a KDE developer
[11:11] <Hobbsee> canllaith: answer to the question:  add the line to the bottom of /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:11] <canllaith> I'm in here at the moment wanting elp with my ubuntu though :)
[11:11] <Hobbsee> canllaith: yes i thought so - want to develop for kubuntu as well?  :P
[11:11] <Hobbsee> ah, boring!
[11:11] <canllaith> Hobbsee: I already do dude, upstream!
[11:11] <dan__> i got my windows partition mounted
[11:11] <Mantice> I did, " Depends: libmyth-0.17  but it is not installable"
[11:11] <dan__> but only root can access it
[11:11] <canllaith> I mean, you guys do use KDE right? ;)
[11:12] <kingspawn> dan__, you could mount it umask=0222
[11:12] <Hobbsee> canllaith: hehe.  sure i do, i'm on kubuntu.  if you're upstream, can we see some more work on knetworkmanager please?  pretty please? :P
[11:12] <dan__> so umount /mnt/windows ?
[11:12] <canllaith> heh sorry, I do kicker/kopete/documentation/marketing/promotion
[11:13] <dan__> then mount -t ntfs umask=0222 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows ?
[11:13] <kingspawn> dan__, with -o in front of umask that looks good
[11:14] <Mantice> gnomefreak, i cant find libmyth-0.17
[11:14] <dan__> ta
[11:14] <Hobbsee> canllaith: ah goody, i'll remember that.  *thinks of kopete bugs*
[11:14] <canllaith> kopete's latest beta is rockin
[11:14] <Hobbsee> 0.12?
[11:14] <canllaith> It has so many bug fixes and it rocks hugely. I haven't done much there though, mostly testing bugs with mattr.
[11:14] <canllaith> Yes
[11:14] <Mantice> E: Package libmyth-0.17 has no installation candidate
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Mantice: when you try to install mythtv it says it cant find it?
[11:15] <canllaith> I love the new xhtml/css chat window rendering, the old xslt was really slow and horrid
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ok hold on a sec
[11:15] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:15] <Mantice> Package libmyth-0.17 is not available, but is referred to by another package
[11:15] <canllaith> and, the new stylesheets are prettier
[11:15] <Hobbsee> canllaith: i think there's a separate unsupported repo about it.  i should have asked, this morning, in our meeting.  oh well
[11:15] <kingspawn> Mantice, just search for it in synaptic.
[11:15] <Mantice> not there in synamptic :(
[11:15] <canllaith> http://canllaith.org/kopete.png
[11:16] <kingspawn> aha, okay. sorry then :)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Mantice: run apt-cache search libmyth see what version it gives you
[11:16] <canllaith> The problem I have is in my country internet is really expensive. I can basically only grab ubuntu updates from one mirror, packages.debian.co.nz
[11:16] <canllaith> So unless they're mirroring it, I can't have it.
[11:17] <roh> hi
[11:17] <Mantice> sudo apt-cache libmyth-0.17
[11:17] <Mantice>  ?
[11:17] <Hobbsee> canllaith: ah ok, yep
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Mantice: no just apt-cache search libmyth
[11:18] <Mantice> libmythes-dev - simple thesaurus library (development files)
[11:18] <Mantice> libmythes0 - simple thesaurus library (development files)
[11:18] <Mantice> mythtv-debug - Debugging symbols for MythTV
[11:18] <gnomefreak> Mantice: is that it?
[11:18] <jolly_> hello I have some problems with my wireless:/ everything worked fine under the installation but when i boot up to ubuntu again the staus  is "disconnected"
[11:19] <Mantice> libmyth-0.17 i dont know
[11:19] <gnomefreak> Mantice: did it list libmyth-0.17???
[11:19] <Mantice> Why dont myth tv come with these required files by defult
[11:19] <mathieu> gnomefreak: thanks for your help, but dpkg-reconfigure locales just resets the locale env vars. those are set up correctly already
[11:20] <Mantice> That was everything it found
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Mantice: ok give me a sec let me look for something
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Mantice: than try system>admin>language selecter
[11:21] <gnomefreak> not Mantice  but mathieu
[11:21] <mathieu> gnomefreak: that's just gnome..
[11:21] <mathieu> gnomefreak: and a few apps
[11:22] <sickdude> :wq
[11:22] <sickdude> oop
[11:22] <sickdude> s
[11:24] <gnomefreak> breezy uses libmyth-0.18
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ^^^ is betting thats why people have a hard time with installing that
[11:26] <firepol> hi, im trying to installed a winsows shared printer under my ubuntu installation. i enter the System Settings > Printers > I click "Administrator mode" > i enter my password > then i select "windows shared" > i select it from the list (Epson Stylus color 860) > i let "recommended" foomatic+gimp and i click "next" > i get this error : Unable to load the requested driver:  Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Epson-Stylus_Color_680,gimp
[11:26] <firepol> -print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation. <-- how can i solve this?
[11:27] <Tempest2k>  is there a howto to get xgl working on flight 5 ?
[11:28] <Healot> Nein, BASIC ist doof. C++ ist das Beste.
[11:29] <YukiCuss> Healot, ich denke auch. :)
[11:29] <Mantice> gnomefreak, is there a way to fix it ?
[11:29] <perceptualchaos> hey are there any stable shockwave plugins in existence for AMD64?
[11:30] <Healot> perceptualchaos, no, atm
[11:30] <perceptualchaos> ok thanks
[11:31] <Healot> try to use Firefox+plugins 32bit version
[11:31] <perceptualchaos> AMD64 is a real pain in the ass innit
[11:31] <Healot> well
[11:31] <Healot> not the processor, the software support sucks behind
[11:31] <Healot> the processor rocks!@
[11:31] <perceptualchaos> I tried installing the one from the website and it just said that it doesn't support my architecture or something
[11:32] <jimcooncat> I'm still stuck trying to extract files from a tar archive...
[11:32] <perceptualchaos> yeah
[11:32] <perceptualchaos> tar --help
[11:32] <Mantice> gnomefreak, any luck
[11:32] <jimcooncat> just want to extract a subdirectory from within the archive
[11:32] <Healot> or "man tar"
[11:32] <perceptualchaos> heh yeah I was about to say that
[11:32] <jimcooncat> yes, I've been through man and tutorials, wouldn't ask here
[11:32] <Healot> jimcooncat, if you're in a desktop, use file-roller _GNOME_ or ark in KDE
[11:33] <perceptualchaos> thanks Healot
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Mantice: you can try installing libmyth-0.18 and see if you can install mythtv after that (not real sure) but it wont hurt anything
[11:34] <Healot> jsut install that version... it should work fine, unless the latter package was installed against it
[11:34] <Mantice> E: Couldn't find package libmyth-0.18
[11:34] <kingspawn> jimcooncat, tried something along the lines of tar xvf <filename>? perhaps appending the directory in the archive you want extracted to the end of that?
[11:36] <jimcooncat>  tar --extract --file=hda1.boot.tgz mnt/temp2/grub/
[11:36] <kingspawn> you need to do z also, since its a gz file
[11:36] <jimcooncat> I get mnt/temp2/grub/*
[11:36] <jimcooncat> not just *
[11:36] <kingspawn> xfz
[11:36] <kingspawn> if you dont want verbose, which is v.
[11:37] <Phlosten> howdy all
[11:38] <gnomefreak> Mantice: can you please paste your sources.list file again in pastebin there is something not right
[11:38] <gnomefreak> that lib is in multiverse in breezy and i could have sworn we got you multiverse
[11:39] <bimberi> Mantice: what's the output of 'uname -r'?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Mantice: its libmyth-.018.1
[11:40] <gnomefreak> 0.18.1
[11:40] <Mantice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:40] <gnomefreak> bimberi: he now has breezy sources as he did before but this time more than 3 :(
[11:40] <kingspawn> with all this talk of libmyth im starting to wonder what Myth actually is
[11:40] <Mantice> E: Couldn't find package libmyth-.018.1
[11:41] <kingspawn> see his correction, mantice
[11:41] <kingspawn> one more .
[11:41] <gnomefreak> Mantice: 0.18.1
[11:41] <gnomefreak> that was my typo
[11:41] <Healot> Mantice
[11:41] <delphine> mikedamour
[11:42] <Mantice> ????
[11:42] <gnomefreak> Mantice: libmyth-0.18.1
[11:42] <Mantice> sudo apt-get install libmyth-0.18.1
[11:42] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:42] <Mantice> E: Couldn't find package libmyth-0.18.1
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Mantice: what is output of uname -r
[11:43] <Mantice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10385
[11:43] <Mantice> uname -r ?????
[11:43] <Healot> You have searched for libmyth in breezy, architecture i386. Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture. :)
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Mantice: type uname -r in terminal
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Healot: i found the file for 386
[11:44] <ruschi> Hi guys - I get nuts with routing here. even I had the "echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" action done my stupid box doesn't do routing....
[11:44] <ruschi> any ideas?
[11:44] <ruschi> one interface is wlan and the other is a normal realtek eth0\
[11:44] <Healot> ruschi, you need to configure the route and iptable rules first?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> if he comes back with 64bit he cant get it would be my best guess
[11:45] <ruschi> I didn't use iptables - is it necesary for simple routing wihtout firewall capabilities?
[11:45] <Mantice> 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[11:45] <Mantice>  :P
[11:45] <gnomefreak> thats why
[11:45] <gnomefreak> :( Mantice
[11:45] <kingspawn> Mantice, if you are unsure of what a command does, like uname, you "man uname" first, so you can learn about it before issuing it
[11:45] <Healot> ruschi, nay?
[11:45] <Mantice> Please, pplease dont tell me
[11:45] <Mantice> amd 64 :@
[11:45] <ruschi> Hesalot, - waht is nay?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Mantice: it dont run on 64bit :( iirc
[11:46] <Healot> "no", mid-English
[11:46] <ruschi> ok
[11:46] <Mantice> Cant I emulate it like I did for ET ?
[11:46] <Healot> linux 32, Mantice ?
[11:46] <Mantice> Yeah
[11:46] <Healot> you could try that...
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Mantice: iirc you can use chroot but i dont know hot ot do that
[11:47] <gnomefreak> how-to not hot ot
[11:47] <Healot> i prefer recompile if that could work... like I did on some packages...
[11:47] <ruschi> Hesalot - so I don't need iptables ?
[11:47] <ruschi> any other ideas
[11:47] <ruschi> I had routing years ago without any bugs and didn't try it anymore
[11:47] <Mantice> You know Dapper ? When does that come out ?
[11:47] <ruschi> it just worked
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Mantice: as soon as april 20th as late as june
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Mantice: we are waiting to find out
[11:48] <ruschi> @mantice - there was an announcement of mike shuttleworth to delay the release
[11:48] <roh> ruschi what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:49] <Mantice> :S
[11:49] <Healot> ruschi, iptables is the base routing/firewall for linux, nay escaping it
[11:49] <Mantice> I need to get to 32 bit pronto this 64 just dont cut it
[11:49] <Healot> ruschi, bridging/ICS?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> Mantice: reinstall in 32bit? unless you have alot to lose
[11:49] <roh> Healot if he only needs routing, no nat, no snat an so on he does not need iptables.
[11:49] <ruschi> I have a box w/o wlan and my man computer with wlan and 2 other interfaces so I want this no-wlan box to get online using my computer as router
[11:50] <Mantice> I have to download a cd image?
[11:50] <Mantice> How would I go about downgrading
[11:50] <ruschi> ok
[11:50] <roh> ruschi dsl?
[11:50] <Healot> that's why I am asking... just routing or ICS/Bridging?
[11:50] <IceBiTe> hola
[11:50] <ruschi> yes in a shared house the DSL modem/Router is upstairs
[11:50] <IceBiTe> someone speak spanish?
[11:51] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:51] <Healot> !es
[11:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> Mantice: i dont think so i think same cd has has both but i cant be sure i only use 32bit
[11:51] <IceBiTe> ok thx
[11:51] <roh> ruschi so all you need is bridging between wlan and lan?
[11:51] <linuxboyfriend> does anyone know that why these days linmodems.org is not working?
[11:51] <ruschi> yes!
[11:51] <Mantice> Would upgrade install ?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> Healot: can he just install i386 kernel and boot to it?
[11:51] <ruschi> how do I do this?
[11:52] <ruschi> this is why I go nuts and don't understand the problems
[11:52] <Mantice> I think all my programs are designed for 64 bit :S
[11:52] <IceBiTe> can i upgrade from breezy to daper using apt?
[11:52] <ruschi> simple problem - no need for the capabilities of iptables
[11:52] <roh> ruschi you need the bridge-utils installed.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell IceBiTe about upgrade
[11:52] <ruschi> thanks
[11:53] <gnomefreak> IceBiTe: use the upgrader please we need people to test it
[11:53] <IceBiTe> ok
[11:53] <roh> ruschi then you basically do this: brctl addbr br0
[11:53] <roh> ruschi add the 2 interfaces (wl0 and eth0 for example)
[11:54] <roh>  brctl addif br0 wl0; brctl addif br0 eth0
[11:54] <Healot> gnomefreak, if he isntall 64bit distro... that means the otehr programs are 64... it won't run
[11:54] <ruschi> it says "add bridge failed: Package not installed"
[11:54] <roh> and don't forget to keep the interfaces up (ip link set up <dev>)
[11:54] <roh> huh
[11:54] <roh> ruschi did you install bridge-utils?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> he needs to run install again than :( <<<atleast safest way
[11:55] <Healot> ruschi you need the bridge-utils installed. he said that before
[11:55] <Misterii> hey all
[11:55] <ruschi> I jsut isntalled it and the command is there
[11:55] <ruschi> apt-get install bridge-utils
[11:55] <roh> ruschi what nic do you use? which drivers
[11:55] <jooozek> hi
[11:55] <maenty> Hi, all
[11:56] <ruschi> brctl addif br0 wlan0; brctl addif br0 eth0 <--- this line now states that I don't have interface wlan0
[11:56] <mrkoje> Hi
[11:56] <maenty> What is the best email-checker (pop3) for linux?
[11:56] <jooozek> i need an now playing script
[11:56] <fluxt> !hello
[11:56] <ubotu> Hi, fluxt!
[11:56] <ruschi> but its up and running
[11:56] <jooozek> for xchat and beep media player
[11:56] <roh> ruschi you have to use the interface names for your nics
[11:56] <roh> i dunno what nic and wlan-nic you have so i just guessted wlan0 and eth0
[11:56] <mrkoje> Depends. Do you want command line or a GUI
[11:56] <roh> -t
[11:56] <fluxt> i like that !hello much better than the old one
[11:56] <ruschi> I do! I have wlan0 and eth0
[11:57] <ruschi> these are my interface names
[11:57] <mrkoje> Mutt I think is good for CLI and Thunderbird is probably good for GUI
[11:57] <ruschi> at least ifconfig says so!
[11:57] <Misterii> ok, I've been googling all day/moring/night and I found that in order to start a GNU/Linux, I need to define its kernel and root location in menu.lst. But I'm looking to boot into Xubuntu, which is a metapackage. Does it have a kernel of its own? Have I COMpletely misunderstood?
[11:57] <Misterii> anyone?
[11:57] <chemaja> maenty: not sure about the Linux build, but Thunderbird is somewhat flaky on Windows XP
[11:57] <roh> ruschi what hardware is it? which drivers? not every driver supports bridging
[11:58] <mishari> hi.. i was wondering if there's any easy way of selectively installing package from another release by using apt
[11:58] <mishari> for example.. i'm using breezy, but i want the 2.6.15 kernel from dapper
[11:58] <ruschi> realtek 8139 and prism2_usb
[11:58] <ruschi> I think I go back to iptables
[11:58] <ruschi> overkill but it should work
[11:59] <Misterii> mishari, you need to edit sources.lst
[11:59] <roh> i dunno the latter one, but the rtl should work
[11:59] <ruschi> ok - I go offline for reboot in ubuntu default kernel - thanks for advice
[12:00] <Misterii> np
[12:00] <mishari> Misterii: how do i prevent it from updating all the packages?
[12:00] <jooozek> somebody can help me ? i need an now playing in beep media player script or plugin for Xchat
[12:00] <roh> *sigh*... he propably just would have needed to make shure the bridge-interface has state UP ;)
[12:00] <mpool> hi, where should i report acpi suspend problems?
[12:00] <mpool> into malone?
[12:00] <mishari> Misterii: if i do an apt-get udpate and i have both breezy and dapper in the sources.lst then it'll upgrade the old packages to dapper no?
[12:00] <Misterii> apt-get install <TellMeWhatYouNeed>
[12:01] <maenty> chemaja: I'm using Thunderbird as my email client, but I'm talking about email checker
[12:01] <`bOOm`> hi everyone, I need to avoid normal users to shutdown my machine, what can I do?
[12:01] <Misterii> Well, if you don't want breezy so put "hash" in front of the line, no?
[12:01] <maenty> chemaja: A small program that can be in system tray and check the email for example in 5 minutes, and then notify me how many new mails are in the pop3-inbox
[12:01] <Healot> hey isnt KDE is the only DE that has Suspend Feature... or GNOME has it too?
[12:01] <mpool> Healot: gnome has it too, under System/Logout
[12:02] <Healot> oh the Hibernate part...
[12:02] <maenty> chemaja: For example Pop Peeper is a good email checker in Windows. http://www.poppeeper.com/  However, I'm trying to find simila program for Linux/KDE
[12:02] <Healot> I freaking hate shuttin down...
[12:02] <`bOOm`> hi everyone, I need to avoid normal users to shutdown my machine, what can I do? Maybe I should remove the shutdown icon from their panel but i don't know how to do it, can you help me?
[12:03] <Healot> Suspend vs. Hibernate
[12:03] <kingspawn> boom: man shutdown might give a tip
[12:03] <mishari> Misterii: yeah i've just added dapper and ran aptitude.. it seems to have bumped up the version of many other packages as well and seems to be set to install those
[12:04] <roh> `bOOm` you can use the new lock-out features from dapper/gnome 2.14
[12:04] <`bOOm`> kingspawn, man shutdown gives me help for command line shutdown, but as you know
[12:04] <Misterii> huh?
[12:04] <`bOOm`> it is already protected
[12:04] <`bOOm`> roh where can i find them?
[12:04] <maenty> Does anyone know any good email checkers (not mail client) for Linux?
[12:04] <Misterii> you do apt-get update and then apt-get install to those packages you need..
[12:04] <maenty> I mean a program that would make small icon on system tray and check pop3-email for example once per 5 minutes, then notify me with number how many new mails I got in the inbox
[12:05] <Healot> `bOOm`, under GNOME... take a look at "Login Screen Setup"
[12:05] <Healot> make sure the "Secure Action Menu" checkbox is checked
[12:05] <roh> `bOOm` i did not try it, but its intended for terminals and stull like that where you can lock down menus and panels so the user cannot modify anything and you could even remove shutdown and logout
[12:05] <Healot> then normal user cannot reboot/shutdown, etc...
[12:05] <Misterii> anyone with ubuntu and xubuntu here?
[12:05] <roh> `bOOm` it will be in dapper afaik
[12:05] <chemaja> maenty: sorry i dont use that type of program
[12:06] <chemaja> maenty: freshmeat.net
[12:06] <maenty> chemaja: Got answer in other channel. Kbiff seems to be exactly what I'm looking for.
[12:06] <chemaja> k
[12:06] <`bOOm`> roh, I really don't know where to search
[12:07] <gnomefreak> `bOOm`: try apt-cache search menu   see if its lists a menu locker or something liek that
[12:07] <Healot> `bOOm`, under GNOME... take a look at "Login Screen Setup"
[12:07] <Healot> make sure the "Secure Action Menu" checkbox is checked
[12:07] <Healot> then normal user cannot reboot/shutdown, etc...
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Healot: way much easier ;)
[12:08] <`bOOm`> Healot, some of my admin tools are not installed, can you give me the exact package name so i can apt-get it?
[12:08] <Healot> it's available in GNOME... I am sure KDM has it too
[12:08] <Healot> or some feature alike
[12:09] <`bOOm`> Healot, so you think it's on system----something---else?
[12:09] <Healot> it's part of GDM
[12:10] <Misterii> where is the xubuntu-kernel located?
[12:11] <eckz^> How do i mount my disks after ubuntu installation...
[12:12] <bimberi> Misterii: /boot
[12:12] <bimberi> eckz^: what type of partitions on your disks?
[12:13] <eckz^> NTFS
[12:13] <bimberi> !mountwindows
[12:13] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:13] <eckz^> Thx bimberi :)
[12:13] <bimberi> eckz^: yw :)
[12:14] <tecs> are there animnated or 3d desktops? i mean wall paperS?
[12:14] <eckz^> btw..does it mount all my disks ?
[12:15] <bimberi> eckz^: iirc it does but haven't run it recently myself
[12:15] <`bOOm`> guys, there's no such option in gdmsetup
[12:15] <eckz^> okok
[12:15] <gnomefreak> `bOOm`: you mean gdm as in log-in screen?
[12:16] <`bOOm`> gnomefreak, i tried to run gdmsetup and i have not found any useful option to avoid shutdown from normal users
[12:17] <NoWhereMan[away] > is there some way to have a terminal emulator in nautilus windows as in konqueror?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> `bOOm`: install gtweakui ;)
[12:18] <blu> does anybody speak romanian here?
[12:18] <GnarusLeo> !met
[12:18] <ubotu> GnarusLeo: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:18] <GnarusLeo> !amule
[12:18] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install amule
[12:18] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know a met server?
[12:19] <feestbijtje> Can some one help me to install my logitech quick cam ive tried google i only get french sites
[12:19] <gnomefreak> tecs: here is some but not ubuntu http://www.3dmindscape.com/?cd=top10&PHPSESSID=9ce99e79cceebd307c005c551137c6d7
[12:20] <gnomefreak> tecs: dont use that nm
[12:20] <feestbijtje> gnomefreak,  could you help me out with logitech quickcem expres?
[12:20] <blu> vorbeste careva romana?
[12:21] <GnarusLeo> what should I set for a .met server for amule? The default one doesnt work
[12:22] <Whatsisname> ug
[12:22] <gnomefreak> tecs: http://www.freewallpapers.to/digital2.htm
[12:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell feestbijtje about webcam
[12:23] <tecs> thnx:)
[12:23] <tecs> and oh by the way how will i be able to know if Wine is already isntalled?
[12:23] <Tempest2k> when installing flight 5 i get pkgsel fail failed when installing software anybody else get this ?
[12:25] <g0dchild> gnomefreak, remember i was telling you about this parse error [http://rafb.net/paste/results/T4oVgC39.html]  when i ran apt-get..is there anyway to fix it?
[12:25] <g0dchild> is it possible caused by an upgrade error?
[12:25] <bimberi> tecs: look in synaptic or use 'dpkg -l wine' and look for 'ii' at the start of the line
[12:25] <feestbijtje> gnomefreak, dousnt work -_-
[12:25] <katrus> H'lo.
[12:26] <Tempest2k> its a fresh syetem
[12:26] <Tempest2k> said failed eror code 1
[12:26] <feestbijtje> g0dchild, did you edited you're apt-get sources list?
[12:27] <g0dchild> nope.
[12:27] <g0dchild> i didnt
[12:28] <Misterii> can anyone help me with xUbuntu?
[12:28] <Gambit-> hey guys, is there an apt-get package for Sun's JVM?
[12:28] <feestbijtje> g0dchild, type sudo apt-get update
[12:28] <feestbijtje> g0dchild, in terminal
[12:28] <g0dchild> i suspect its got smeth to do with karamba though
[12:28] <g0dchild> feestbijtje, - did that too...with -f
[12:29] <katrus> I didn't have any trouble with Xubuntu, m'self. The install instructions on the wiki work very well
[12:29] <feestbijtje> g0dchild,  i dunno dit it asked to?
[12:29] <feestbijtje> g0dchild, lets play it like this: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#add-repositories
[12:29] <kenas> hi
[12:29] <feestbijtje> hi
[12:30] <kenas> can anyone pls help me to configure my netwrok in ubuntu
[12:30] <feestbijtje> *hugs kenas*
[12:30] <IceBiTe> bye all!
[12:30] <feestbijtje> bye ice
[12:30] <g0dchild> feestbijtje, >>> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 23911 package `karamba':
[12:30] <g0dchild>  missing version
[12:30] <kenas> i installed smb and everything is wrong now
[12:30] <kenas> :(
[12:30] <feestbijtje> oh its dpg
[12:30] <feestbijtje> g0dchild,  pm me
[12:30] <g0dchild> ok
[12:30] <shukhrat> hello dear community
[12:31] <katrus> Hey, that happened for me, too. I imstalled SMB, and I can't see any of the shared files on my LAN anymore.
[12:31] <shukhrat> how i can install opera browser via apt-get ?
[12:31] <bimberi> Misterii: you get xubuntu by installing the xubuntu-desktop package.  Same kernel as ubuntu.  Have a look at...
[12:31] <bimberi> !xubuntu
[12:31] <ubotu> hmm... xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[12:31] <kenas> katrus and me have same problem
[12:31] <bimberi> !opera
[12:31] <ubotu> opera is probably not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[12:31] <kenas> and because of that i cant even print in my network printer
[12:31] <kenas> :(
[12:32] <feestbijtje> !firefox
[12:32] <Frogzoo> Misterii: why not just install Ubuntu & take it from there?
[12:32] <JustinLynn> I just saw the Computer History Browser post on the planet and I find the concept to be interesting. It would help to interpret contextual commands like "open the report I had open at lunch yesterday" or "show all emails sent to members of the control group within the last week" I think that developing this infrastructure would be a great step toward a natural language interface and a leap in usability.
[12:32] <bimberi> shukhrat: not sure if you can, but you can download the .deb package and install using 'sudo dpkg -i <file>.deb'
[12:33] <shukhrat> thanks !
[12:33] <shukhrat> i 'll try
[12:33] <bimberi> shukhrat: yw :)
[12:34] <Gambit-> Hey guys, I need a quick pointer to what jvm to install on a ubuntu machine to have SunJVM1.4.1 compatability, any suggestions?
[12:34] <bimberi> JustinLynn: absolutely,  and bring on voice recognition with it
[12:34] <kenas> ok noone can help me for network configuration
[12:34] <_jind> Will Dapper Drake ship with Gnome 2.14?
[12:34] <kenas> its fine
[12:34] <Misterii> the wiki xubuntu instructs on installing Xubuntu alone
[12:34] <bimberi> _jind: yes
[12:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> _jind: yesk, it already has it
[12:34] <_jind> Nice
[12:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/yesk/yes/
[12:35] <Frogzoo> kenas: but you can connect via ip, yes?
[12:35] <kenas> yup
[12:35] <_jind> And why is my nick fscked
[12:35] <Misterii> I need to add it aside Ubuntu, and I don't know hot to make Grub understand me :(
[12:35] <jind> :)
[12:35] <kenas> frogzoo yeah
[12:35] <Frogzoo> kenas: what r u using to browse the network? smb4k or what?
[12:35] <shukhrat> bimberi: have you worked with ftp server ?  i would like start ftp server in my Ubuntu but how to start ....... dont'nt no
[12:35] <kenas> smb
[12:35] <kenas> thats all
[12:36] <kenas> i dont know if it is 4k or not
[12:36] <bimberi> shukhrat: i haven't, but if you install one it is usually started automatically by the installer
[12:36] <kenas> it worked at the begining but i installed samba.. and all the network disapeared
[12:36] <kenas> :(
[12:36] <Frogzoo> kenas: if i understand properly, your ubuntu box was accessing windows shares, & now it can't?
[12:37] <kenas> no..
[12:37] <bimberi> Misterii: if you install xubuntu-desktop it installs xfce which you choose from your login managers Session menu, not the grub menu
[12:37] <kenas> well sort of
[12:37] <shukhrat> bimberi: the problem how to oparete with ftp . .... i already install it
[12:37] <kenas> before i could see my network...
[12:37] <fluxt> bimberi: does it install xfm too?
[12:37] <kenas> now i cant
[12:37] <kenas> now i dont see any computer
[12:37] <Frogzoo> kenas: define 'see'
[12:38] <kenas> i can do ping
[12:38] <kenas> but i dont actually access my network
[12:38] <JustinLynn> bimberi: I'd imagine much of the framework could be tied in with gnomevfs to track file changes. However we should probably start work on a database backed filesystem so that we could take advantage of inbuilt capabilities of a database in terms of sorting and searching for records based on metadata.
[12:39] <bimberi> fluxt: xfm isn't a dependency of xubuntu-desktop no
[12:39] <kenas> there is only one icon in my network place and its Windows Netwrok and its empty
[12:39] <shukhrat> is it any one who knows VSAT
[12:40] <shukhrat> ?
[12:40] <bimberi> shukhrat: which package?
[12:42] <JustinLynn> bimberi: if we moved to a dbfs we could do away with the gnomevfs dependency and associated metadata conversion layers, versioning and device independence would also be made easier.
[12:42] <Misterii> biberi, login managers? You mean, when I log in to Ubuntu?
[12:42] <tecs> is kubuntu considered as debian/
[12:42] <shukhrat> bimderi: we have a satellite dish through which we have access to Internet
[12:42] <shukhrat> so far we used slackware but now are determined to switch to ubuntu
[12:43] <Frogzoo_away> kenas: I really have no idea what exactly isn't working for you - suggest you take a look at 'man smb.conf' & consider if you need to enable WINS or domain master
[12:46] <ben_underscore> so has dapper been delayed?
[12:47] <kenas> how can i check.. if i can access other computers in my network
[12:47] <fluxt> ben_underscore: i hear that
[12:47] <fluxt> kenas: you could try to ping them
[12:47] <Seveas> ben_underscore, an official announcement whether it's been delayed will be made soon
[12:48] <BlueEagle> kenas: sounds like a conflict in who will be the master server.
[12:48] <fluxt> noooo, i'll use vim!
[12:48] <fluxt> i swear
[12:48] <shukhrat> we have a satellite dish through which we have access to Internet
[12:49] <shukhrat> so far we used slackware but now are determined to switch to ubuntu
[12:49] <ben_underscore> shukhrat, where are you located?
[12:49] <Rawplayer> UbUNTU
[12:49] <shukhrat> Tajikistan
[12:49] <Rawplayer> GNU\Ubuntu
[12:49] <Rawplayer> hey Seveas ;)
[12:49] <JustinLynn> Seveas> about your topic change, I read on an article linked from digg.com that dapper had been delayed - is the delay not official as of now?
[12:49] <Healot> gdm does allow shutdown/restart :)
[12:50] <Seveas> JustinLynn, digg always jumps the gun
[12:50] <Healot> should i remove it and use kdm instead?
[12:50] <shukhrat> ben_underscore: tajikistan
[12:50] <kenas> how can i ping them ?
[12:50] <Seveas> the decision whether to delay has been made afaik but it hasn't been announced
[12:50] <fluxt> lol Seveas i just noticed :)
[12:50] <Seveas> :
[12:50] <JustinLynn> Seveas> agreed, it is pretty gullible as it's controlled by the people - and the people always hear what they want to hear. :)
[12:50] <ben_underscore> shukhrat, really? i am in australia. are you connecting to the internet via satellite now?
[12:51] <ben_underscore> Seveas, i read the log of the irc meeting. very democratic and level headed, i am impressed
[12:51] <Seveas> ben_underscore, so am I
[12:51] <shukhrat> ben_underscore: No . but our sub office connect via satellite
[12:51] <LazyAngel> Hi! I installed dapper on another partition, and now it hijacked my grub. So now i can't boot into breezy anymore :( I have tried to change the boot flag back to the breezy /boot partition, but that didn't help. Still dapper's grub menu. And if i add breezy to dappher's menu.lst i just gets errors :(
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Seveas: = good bouncer ;)
[12:52] <Seveas> gnomefreak, that's not the point
[12:52] <shukhrat> ben_underscore: is it goof Ubuntu for satellite ?
[12:52] <shukhrat> *good
[12:52] <gnomefreak> i know Seveas and yes it did god very well
[12:52] <Seveas> the point is that 'high command' listens to anyone in the community - that's fairly unique
[12:52] <fluxt> LazyAngel: are you refering to the right kernel etc in menu.lst ?
[12:52] <GnarusLeo> How can I change the names on mounted paritions? I want to change the name of the /dev/sda
[12:52] <LazyAngel> fluxt: yes, i'm very sure i do.
[12:53] <fluxt> GnarusLeo: you can't change the /dev but the /media
[12:53] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, is it a USB device?
[12:53] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, almost, firewall
[12:53] <GnarusLeo> Firewire* :D
[12:53] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, how are you mounting it?
[12:53] <Seveas> ah
[12:53] <marko> am is there possible to do VPS on ubuntu with red hat
[12:53] <Seveas> well, in that case: change the filesystem label
[12:53] <GnarusLeo> where do I dp that?
[12:53] <ben_underscore> shukhrat, i don't know about ubuntu with satellite comms, however i am involved in a project here in australia where we're going to be giving ubuntu laptops to remote aboriginal communities
[12:53] <Seveas> because that's what pmount uses to determine the name
[12:53] <LazyAngel> fluxt: i mounted the breezy boot partition and copyed the menu item from there, so they are exactly the same
[12:54] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, what sort of filesystem?
[12:54] <ben_underscore> shukhrat, they may use satellite to get in contact with the internet
[12:54] <fluxt> LazyAngel: and what sort of error do you get?
[12:54] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, now the partitions are called "68 GB Volume" and so on ... its three ext3
[12:54] <LazyAngel> Error 15: file not found
[12:54] <ben_underscore> Seveas, do you mind if i ask if you're pia's partner?
[12:54] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, man e2label
[12:54] <GnarusLeo> ty
[12:54] <Seveas> (don't know the details)
[12:55] <GnarusLeo> thats ok :) Im a good reader
[12:55] <fluxt> LazyAngel: hmm, /me thinks
[12:55] <kenas> ye si can ping them
[12:55] <shukhrat> ben_underscore: are you work in INGO ?
[12:55] <Seveas> ben_underscore, you're probably refering to Pia Waugh - well, no, that's Jeff Waugh aka jdub
[12:55] <kronoz> how is ubuntu for wireless support?
[12:55] <kenas> yes i can ping them
[12:55] <ben_underscore> Seveas, ah, sorry.
[12:55] <kenas> but i cant do anything else..
[12:55] <kenas> i cant access any computer in my network
[12:55] <ben_underscore> shukhrat, INGO?
[12:55] <kenas> or even see them
[12:55] <kronoz> the wireless drivers i'm requiring are for ralink based cards
[12:55] <kronoz> rt2570
[12:55] <fluxt> LazyAngel: do you have the 'root' flag set to the right drive/partition for that kernel?
[12:56] <Engnome> has anyone in here gotten ubuntu+ some vpn client to work with Juniper netscreen remote?
[12:56] <bimberi> Misterii: sorry, are you still there?  yes, when you log into ubuntu
[12:56] <shukhrat> ben_underscore: it will be free ? International Non Goverment Organization
[12:56] <fluxt> LazyAngel: i'm talking /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:56] <jubei> guys is there a program in linux that detects what kind of cpu one has?
[12:56] <fluxt> jubei: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:56] <teroedni> lshw
[12:57] <jubei> fluxt, thanks.
[12:57] <teroedni> sudo lshw;)
[12:57] <fluxt> jubei: ur welcome
[12:57] <LondonGuy> Hi Room !
[12:57] <LondonGuy> How is everyone?
[12:57] <shukhrat> ben_underscore: laptops will be free for that community ?
[12:57] <fluxt> fine thanks LondonGuy
[12:57] <Misterii> thank you all you lovvvvvely peeps!!
[12:57] <LazyAngel> fluxt: i'll try to extract the two menu.lst and the fdisk output and show it to you. i think that will be easier
[12:57] <GnarusLeo> thanks Seveas, e2label worked out allright
[12:57] <LondonGuy> Hi Fluzt
[12:57] <Misterii> it's working now
[12:57] <LondonGuy> Fluxt
[12:58] <teroedni> Greetings to all
[12:58] <fluxt> LazyAngel: did the partition layout change on your drive?
[12:58] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, please do me a favor and give me the command you used 
[12:58] <teroedni> i see there are some new ones i havent seen before:D
[12:58] <ben_underscore> shukhrat, no it is with this group http://www.itshare.org.au/ and the laptops would cost $10
[12:58] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, e2label /dev/sda "new name"
[12:58] <GnarusLeo> sdaX that is :P
[12:58] <Misterii> it would have probably worked sooner, if I had noticed the "session" button on lower-right corner of the login screen xDDD
[12:58] <Seveas> haha ok
[12:58] <marko> am is there possible to do virtual private server on ubuntu, because i need to run one application which is possible to run only on red hat
[12:58] <Misterii> Even google can't save you from yourself, right?
[12:59] <LazyAngel> fluxt: when i installed dapper i created hda2, but hda1 is unchanged (which is the boot for breezy)
[12:59] <LondonGuy> I am unable to play any audio or video files, can anyone help me out with that?
[12:59] <ben_underscore> shukhrat, the laptops are donated from corporations and refurbished with ubuntu and then distributed for a small amount of money
[12:59] <kronoz> marco: vmware, xen, qemu
[12:59] <mjr> marko, it's not supported as such, I think, but it's certainly possible. I recommend looking at xen.
[01:00] <LondonGuy> I am new to Linux
[01:00] <kronoz> LondonGuy: run alsaconf as root
[01:00] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, or maybe it didnt ... i used it, remounted the drives, but gnome still refers to them as "60gb Volume" etc ... :(
[01:00] <fluxt> LazyAngel: i see, you wouldn't think you'd have a problem hey
[01:00] <LondonGuy> what does that mean kronoz? :D I am n00b with linux. :)
[01:00] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, ah - you mount them via /etc/fstab?
[01:00] <fluxt> LazyAngel: pastebin the menu.lst
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell LondonGuy about restricted
[01:01] <fluxt> !tell LondonGuy about tabcompletion
[01:01] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, not really ... I just use the default ubuntu thingy .. (system-admin-disks)
[01:01] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, same difference
[01:01] <GnarusLeo> and usually ubuntu just mount them themselves
[01:01] <efuzzyone> hello
[01:01] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, ok, so I can find it in fstab? The labels I mean?
[01:01] <shukhrat> den_underscore: can i buy one laptop? PLEASE
[01:01] <kronoz> er you in gnome? open the terminal, type 'su' enter your root password then type alsaconf and follow that
[01:01] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, it's pmount (responsible for removable drives) that uses the labels
[01:01] <fluxt> Seveas: who wrote the bot?
[01:01] <kronoz> gnome:gnome-terminal kde:konsole
[01:02] <efuzzyone> i am trying to install ubuntu 5.10 for 64-bit PC on an AMD-64 machine.
[01:02] <Seveas> if you put your drives in /etc/fstab - pmount will refuse to work on them and calls regular mount
[01:02] <Seveas> fluxt, which one?
[01:02] <LondonGuy> how do I login as root?
[01:02] <fluxt> !ubotu
[01:02] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:02] <Seveas> !tell LondonGuy about root
[01:02] <gnomefreak> LondonGuy: assuming you can hear sounds ok just cant play them from files read the restricted site ubotu sent you
[01:02] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, but thats not nescesery, couse pmount is doing its job ..
[01:02] <kronoz> LondonGuy: type 'su'
[01:02] <Seveas> fluxt, apt-cache show blootbot
[01:02] <feestbijtje> !logitech quick cam
[01:02] <ubotu> feestbijtje: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:02] <kronoz> and it will ask for a password
[01:02] <LondonGuy> su
[01:02] <kronoz> in terminal
[01:02] <efuzzyone> While installing the base system, I get the error "unable to install initrd-tools".
[01:02] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, just want to change the labels :P
[01:02] <fluxt> thanks Seveas
[01:03] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, dunno what gnome uses in this case, sorry
[01:03] <efuzzyone> whats the probable cause, and how do I workaround it?
[01:03] <BlueEagle> efuzzyone: Did you check the md5sum of the downloaded iso image and the CD?
[01:03] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, ok, thanks for all your help anyways :)
[01:03] <fluxt> Seveas: not in my cache
[01:03] <efuzzyone> i got burned ubuntu cds by mail order
[01:03] <gnomefreak> su is _not_ recommended please use sudo or sudo -i
[01:03] <bicky> hello, the boot-up of ubuntu is very unstable, and last filesystem it gave the mesage "3,3% non-contiguous". Can this have something to do with this ?
[01:03] <shukhrat> den_underscore: ?
[01:04] <shukhrat> den_underscore: can i buy one laptop?
[01:04] <bicky> *filesystem check
[01:04] <kronoz> no problem with su if you have a brain
[01:04] <efuzzyone> BlueEagle: i got burned ubuntu cds by mail order
[01:04] <shukhrat> den_underscore: ?
[01:04] <BlueEagle> efuzzyone: Then I recomend you check the md5sum of the cd against the md5sum posted for that image on your favorite mirror.
[01:04] <LadyNikon> hmm..
[01:05] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know how I can change the label of a mounted external firewall drive?
[01:05] <ompaul> !tell efuzzyone about bootoptions
[01:05] <Whatsisname> you mean firewire?
[01:05] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, it was called "BACKUP" when I used it with windows .. and so linux mounted it as "BACKUP" as well the first time
[01:05] <GnarusLeo> Whatsisname, of course :)
[01:05] <efuzzyone> BlueEagle:  the cds were officially mailed to me by Ubuntu
[01:05] <BlueEagle> http://mirror.trivini.no/ubuntu-iso/5.10/MD5SUMS
[01:06] <efuzzyone> and i have tried multiple cds with the same error
[01:06] <BlueEagle> efuzzyone: They may still be corrupted.
[01:06] <ompaul> efuzzyone, and wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[01:06] <BlueEagle> efuzzyone: You might want to clean your CD-ROM drive then. :)
[01:07] <ompaul> efuzzyone, check out the msg from ubotu if your hardware is funny it can help
[01:07] <fluxt> Seveas: yeah, the only bot in my cache is gnobots2 ;)
[01:08] <Phazeman> hi. this is the first time im running the live dvd... always installed from install cd... but i know there is an option to install from the live dvd... how do i do that ?
[01:08] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, mtools was much easier for ubuntu apperantly
[01:09] <Phazeman> it's the latest live dvd of flight 5
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: 5.10 cant install from live cd
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: ahhh
[01:09] <Phazeman> gnomefreak: live/install dvd
[01:09] <Phazeman> i can't find the way to install from the dvd :( been waiting for the whole night for it to download :(
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: only dapper has that option and im not sure if its in it yet
[01:09] <Phazeman> it is dapper flight 5
[01:10] <Phazeman> the latest
[01:10] <Phazeman> dang... dont tell me that i have to download another CD instead of the dvd
[01:11] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: when you run the livecd/dvd does it give you option on desktop or in menu to install it?
[01:11] <Phazeman> no menu
[01:11] <fluxt> Phazeman: enabled/adjusted boot from cd priority in the bios?
[01:11] <Phazeman> fluxt: what do you mean ?
[01:12] <efuzzyone> is there any alternate installation which I can try, which doesn't installs this package?
[01:12] <fluxt> oh, nevermind
[01:12] <fluxt> gnomefreak's already there
[01:12] <Phazeman> fluxt: it boots from the dvd all right
[01:12] <Phazeman> ahh
[01:12] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: what do you mean no menu?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: no menu at all or no menu choice for install?
[01:12] <Phazeman> no menu at all
[01:13] <Phazeman> it waits for a boot command
[01:13] <Phazeman> then you can press F1 for help or enter for boot
[01:13] <fluxt> it hints at a few doesn't it?
[01:13] <cavediver> hi.
[01:13] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: you dont get the desktop at all?
[01:13] <Phazeman> fluxt: i didn't see anything about install there
[01:13] <cavediver> Is it possible to install Ubuntu to an USB stick ?
[01:13] <Phazeman> i do have a desktop and i'm in it right now
[01:13] <wold> anybody here with an asus wl138g and dapper????
[01:13] <Phazeman> talking to wyou with konversation from the live desktop
[01:14] <fluxt> does a livecd have install?
[01:14] <las_3_gatas24> hola
[01:14] <Phazeman> but i thought there is some kind of installer in the live cd
[01:14] <fluxt> or dvd as the case may be
[01:14] <fluxt> ?
[01:14] <cavediver> The breezy live has no installer I think
[01:14] <Phazeman> cavediver: dapper flight 5
[01:14] <las_3_gatas24> quien eres
[01:14] <cavediver> Phazeman: Dunnu about that one
[01:15] <las_3_gatas24> you de venezuela
[01:15] <gnomefreak> !es
[01:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:15] <redguy|work> !dappe
[01:15] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, redguy|work
[01:15] <redguy|work> !dapper
[01:15] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: dapper is still in testing stages
[01:15] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[01:16] <las_3_gatas24> what
[01:16] <Phazeman> gnomefreak: i know
[01:16] <gnomefreak> las_3_gatas24: /j #ubuntu-es
[01:16] <MatyasZA> Hi there
[01:16] <Phazeman> gnomefreak: i prefer it on breezy for nowe
[01:16] <Phazeman> now*
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: the live installer is buggy still but has been put in
[01:16] <wold> anybody here with an asus wl138g and dapper????
[01:16] <Phazeman> gnomefreak: but where is it ? how do i start it ?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> Phazeman: lets go over to #ubuntu+1 please
[01:17] <Phazeman> no probs
[01:17] <MatyasZA> Can anyone please help me my Email server is giving me this error
[01:17] <MatyasZA>  chdir /var/spool/mail/virtual//judit/: No such file or directory
[01:17] <MatyasZA> But I added the user into mysql database
[01:18] <MatyasZA> and it should be creating the judit folder for the email
[01:18] <BlueEagle> matyasza: check the config for the line /var/spool/mail/virtual/ and change it to /var/spool/mail/virtual
[01:18] <las_3_gatas24> chek
[01:18] <MatyasZA> Ok lemme check
[01:18] <las_3_gatas24> ok
[01:19] <las_3_gatas24> yo soy espaola
[01:19] <las_3_gatas24> y you
[01:20] <redguy|work> !tell las_3_gatas24 about es
[01:21] <redguy|work> las_3_gatas24: speak english in here please
[01:21] <LazyAngel> fluxt:  http://pastebin.bafserv.com/css/paste
[01:21] <LazyAngel> fluxt: sorry:) http://pastebin.bafserv.com/3172
 im in /etc/postfix/mail.cf inside its says: virtual_mailbox_base = /var/spool/mail/virtual
[01:22] <las_3_gatas24> what
[01:22] <BlueEagle> matyasza: Well then there's another reason for it adding // between that base and the username
[01:22] <BlueEagle> matyasza: // isn't a good thing in a path.
[01:22] <ubuntu_kip> if i dont configure the network on install
[01:22] <ubuntu_kip> can i configure it later
[01:22] <ubuntu_kip> !network
[01:22] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[01:22] <fluxt> LazyAngel: did you move the position of the windows partition?
[01:22] <las_3_gatas24> you espaol
[01:23] <MatyasZA> what would be better?
[01:23] <ubuntu_kip> !unbuntu-es
[01:23] <ubotu> ubuntu_kip: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:23] <ubuntu_kip> #ubuntu-es
[01:23] <LazyAngel> fluxt: i didn't move it, but i removed two other partitions in between got get some space for the dapper partition. So win xp partition should be unchanged.
[01:24] <LazyAngel> fluxt: in the dapper's menu.lst i have tried to change where to boot from to find it
[01:24] <MatyasZA> im a bit confused sorry
[01:24] <SPCPT> hi ppl
[01:25] <fluxt> LazyAngel: well the breezy part looks all good.. :/
[01:25] <ubuntu_kip> !network config
[01:25] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_kip
[01:25] <ubuntu_kip> ....
[01:25] <SPCPT> can anyone help me to get the cisco aironet 350 wireless card working in breezy ?
[01:25] <bigfoot_yeti> hi all
 virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_mailbox.cf
[01:25] <LazyAngel> fluxt: that was what i thought as well :/ isn't there a grub-install command i could use?
[01:26] <visik7> software updates of eclipse doesn't work
[01:26] <visik7> what's wrong ?
[01:26] <fluxt> LazyAngel: update-grub is how to automatically update grub but i'm not sure how it handles multiple installs
[01:26] <LazyAngel> fluxt: i'll backup the menu.lst and see how it goes
[01:27] <fluxt> LazyAngel: and i'm right in saying breeze can be mounted as /media/hda1 ?
[01:27] <fluxt> LazyAngel: good idea, although it changes only the section it'll say it changes
[01:28] <GnarusLeo> !backup
[01:28] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[01:28] <LazyAngel> fluxt: yes, i have mounted the breezy boot whitout problem. that's where i got the breezy menu.lst from
[01:28] <robzon> hey guys
[01:28] <fluxt> LazyAngel: yeah as /media/hda1 i think you said?
[01:28] <BlueEagle> matyasza: I just spotted the // in the path and that really looks like a configuration error. However I've never used the package and all I really can do is to refer you to the manual of the package in question.
[01:29] <robzon> does anyone have experience with setting up LTSP on Ubuntu on networks with at least 10 thin clients?
[01:29] <LazyAngel> fluxt: yes
[01:29] <MatyasZA> thank you :)
[01:29] <robzon> well, in fact any number od thin clients will do..
[01:30] <fluxt> LazyAngel: i find the root=/dev/md1 etc strange.. on mine it's root=/dev/hda6 or 1 or whatever
[01:30] <LazyAngel> fluxt: it is sata disk's with software raid 5.
[01:31] <fluxt> LazyAngel: i'd try changing for breezy only: root=/dev/hda1
[01:31] <fluxt> i'd try?
[01:31] <LazyAngel> fluxt: ahh! that might be a good idea :)
[01:31] <fluxt> LazyAngel: sounds reasonable :)
[01:32] <GnarusLeo> hm .. how safe is it to backup EVERYTHING on a single tar balL?
[01:33] <fluxt> LazyAngel: oh raid.. ? goodluck
[01:33] <LazyAngel> the hda isn't in raid :)
[01:33] <fluxt> i'm confident (just don't change dapper ;)
[01:33] <katarot> hey everyone could use some help i got the internet but i still want my wireless i got ndisgtk and instelled my driver but when i go to configure it is not there
[01:34] <mzv> hallo zusammen
[01:35] <mikado81> hey...what language is this chat room?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> mikado81: english
[01:35] <mikado81> ok
[01:35] <mikado81> thanx
[01:35] <chemaja> mikado81: but there's perl bindings if you need them
[01:35] <mzv> hello
[01:35] <mzv> what's up
[01:35] <mikado81> no it's fine
[01:35] <chemaja> hehehe
[01:37] <LazyAngel> fluxt: that didn't help
[01:37] <LazyAngel> fluxt: i'll try to reinstall grub
[01:37] <GnarusLeo> fluxt, gnomefreak  ... do you have any experience/input on how safe it is to backup every file from "/" to ONE tarball, and hide this on a external disk?
[01:38] <fluxt> i'm at a loss, you might want to reask the chan and include your pastebin link
[01:38] <GnarusLeo> sounds dangerous :)
[01:39] <fluxt> GnarusLeo: not really, but you'd need to mount the partition read-only
[01:39] <fluxt> apart from that i'd find myself in man tar ;)
[01:39] <katarot> do i need to do anything else before my wireless will work
[01:40] <GnarusLeo> fluxt, hehe .. I found a recipie
[01:40] <GnarusLeo> !backuo
[01:40] <ubotu> GnarusLeo: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:40] <GnarusLeo> !backup
[01:40] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[01:40] <GnarusLeo> but not sure how safe it is ..
[01:40] <zenit> Is it possible to install Open Office 2.0.x in ubuntu breezy, amd64? The 1.9.129 version is quite buggy. I read about adding http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2-amd64/ to sources.list, but there aren't any amd64 packages there.
[01:40] <IdleOne> !tell katarot about wireless
[01:40] <caglar_> what do the new packages mean if the version stays the same but the *ubuntuX.deb number changes?
[01:41] <caglar_> X=a number
[01:41] <Seveas> caglar_, that ubuntuX is part of the version number
[01:41] <IdleOne> caglar_> could be a bug fix or code cleanup
[01:41] <fluxt> GnarusLeo: the guide looks good
[01:42] <IdleOne> caglar_>  or just an updated/new version like Seveas  said
[01:42] <sobersabre> hi. is there a specific chan for ubuntu-ppc
[01:42] <sobersabre>  ?
[01:42] <GnarusLeo> fluxt, but it says that I shoudnt have anything mounted .. I would like to write the tarball to an external drive directly ... but --exclude="/media/<external>" would make sure not to compress the drive, right?
[01:42] <caglar_> why does the version number change then?
[01:42] <fluxt> !ppc
[01:42] <ubotu> I guess ppc is PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer than Intel.
[01:42] <LazyAngel> Hi! I installed dapper on another partition, and now it hijacked my grub. So now i can't boot into breezy anymore :( I have tried to change the boot flag back to the breezy /boot partition, but that didn't help. Still dapper's grub menu. And if i add breezy to dappher's menu.lst i just gets errors (file not found) :( http://pastebin.bafserv.com/3172
[01:42] <caglar_> doesnt
[01:42] <caglar_> I mean
[01:42] <fluxt> seems not sobersabre
[01:42] <caglar_> why dont they release a new version wit a new version number but *ubuntuX?
[01:43] <IdleOne> caglar_> the ubuntuX part is part of the version number
[01:43] <caglar_> hm
[01:43] <caglar_> ok..
[01:43] <javiolo> theres a #ubuntu-ppc but always is empty
[01:43] <Seveas> caglar_, the version number is (upstream version)-(debian revision)ubuntu(ubuntu revision)
[01:43] <fluxt> GnarusLeo: sounds good
[01:43] <IdleOne> caglar_>  sum packages ( I think all ) are ubuntu specific
[01:43] <javiolo> sobersabre theres a #ubuntu-ppc but always is empty
[01:43] <GnarusLeo> thanks again fluxt  .. Ill try that
[01:44] <Blippe> BUG: tftpd-hpa installs with root access instead of nobody (as default)
[01:44] <caglar_> where can I get information about what exactly changed?
[01:44] <fluxt> GnarusLeo: it's all you
[01:44] <IdleOne> packages.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <G0SUB> Seveas: ping
[01:44] <G0SUB> Seveas: how can I get Ubugtu join our channel?
[01:45] <GnarusLeo> fluxt, well, this time it was true :) Politeness
[01:45] <Seveas> G0SUB, no idea ;)
[01:45] <G0SUB> Seveas: lol
[01:45] <javiolo> sobersabre what do you want to know ?
[01:45] <G0SUB> Seveas: I know you are his master ...
[01:46] <Seveas> G0SUB, hint: look at your channel ;)
[01:46] <sobersabre> javiolo i want to know if it is possible to boot say, dapper on an OF machine with ppc64
[01:46] <G0SUB> haha
[01:46] <fluxt> LazyAngel: also, you could try asking in the dapper chan #ubuntu+1
[01:46] <sobersabre> I am talking about ibm's js20 blades.
[01:46] <ubuntu_kip> i got a prob
[01:47] <IdleOne> sobersabre>  you could try
[01:47] <javiolo> sobersabre sorry I dont have any ppc64, I have ubuntu in a macmini
[01:47] <javiolo> sobersabre try #mac
[01:47] <sobersabre> javiolo isn't macmini intel duo based ?
[01:47] <ubuntu_kip> i have installed ubuntu on a g3
[01:47] <sobersabre> Ubugtu g3 is still ppc, not ppc64
[01:47] <javiolo> sobersabre yes, but mine its the old macmini
[01:47] <ubuntu_kip> and it says cant fin /video/
[01:48] <javiolo> sobersabre try #mac they support varios OS
[01:48] <sobersabre> ubuntu_kip  what does lspci say about  your vga controller ?
[01:48] <eckz^> !mountwindows
[01:48] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:49] <fiveiron> is anyone else getting a ridiculous amount of md5sum mismatches when trying to install packakges using apt-get?
[01:50] <javiolo> sobersabre as far as I know the only linux that has been runned over ppc 64 its gentoo
[01:50] <sobersabre> javiolo oh, c'mon. at least you can do some homework besides 1-time google search.
[01:50] <ubuntu_kip> sober
[01:50] <sobersabre> RHEL3 up, SLES8 up
[01:51] <LazyAngel> fluxt: thanks
[01:51] <vanscorpion> hello
[01:51] <sobersabre> and of course gentoo.
[01:51] <ubuntu_kip> i have a list that it cant find
[01:51] <javiolo> sobersabre I knew that before
[01:51] <jollyjumper> I have just installed ubuntu, but on the first boot, it hangs on "starting hotplug subsystem". It seems to be a problem with the integrated soundcard using snd-hda-intel. I cant disable the soundcard in bios.. Can someone plz help?
[01:52] <sobersabre> jollyjumper you can boot the install CD via the "rescue" mode.
[01:52] <jollyjumper> ok, ill try that
[01:52] <chuckyp> jollyjumper, or boot in single user mode from grub?
[01:52] <sobersabre> and then mount folder under which /etc resides. ( I guess it is / )
[01:52] <fiveiron> is there a package out there with codecs?  i've got a default install of dapper and i can't play mp3s
[01:52] <fluxt> LazyAngel: no problem, sorry i couldn't fix it
[01:52] <sobersabre> fiveiron this is not a dapper channel.
[01:52] <chuckyp> !tell fiveiron about restricted
[01:53] <hq01007_> hi guys
[01:53] <no_gatez_fan> good morning
[01:53] <IdleOne> morning
[01:54] <hq01007_> Is there a tool to configure several network environment (home, university, wifi) ?
[01:54] <eckz^> Can some1 help me to mount my disks ? (NTFS)
[01:54] <thegladiator> good evening
[01:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell eckz^ about ntfs
[01:54] <wuzzy> hi! what program is good for cd burning? especially audio cds?
[01:54] <GnarusLeo> !ntfs
[01:54] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:55] <IdleOne> wuzzy> gnomebaker k3b serpentine cdrecord
[01:55] <thegladiator> eckz^, you cant  write to ntfs as of now , reading is possible though
[01:55] <wuzzy> IdleOne: thanks!
[01:55] <no_gatez_fan> just am seting up 5.1 for the first time, I am very pleased
[01:55] <thegladiator> !burner
[01:55] <ubotu> thegladiator: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:55] <jollyjumper> same problem when I boot in single mode... hotplug subsystem
[01:56] <no_gatez_fan> looking around but might need to ask a few questions later
[01:56] <thegladiator> no_gatez_fan, 5.10
[01:56] <no_gatez_fan> 5.10 yes
[01:56] <GnarusLeo> thegladiator, not true ... you can write to it but its experimental ...
[01:56] <IdleOne> no_gatez_fan>  welcome to ubuntu
[01:56] <thegladiator> 10 stands for the month
[01:56] <G0SUB> cafuego: ping
[01:56] <no_gatez_fan> got ya
[01:56] <thegladiator> Yeah I meant it is not safe
[01:57] <GnarusLeo> thegladiator, yup ... I tried it once for testing and the filesystem errored in less then a month :P
[01:58] <no_gatez_fan> after a boot up, I need to run as sudo xvidtune, is there any way to keep the changes, every boot I have to adjust X
[01:58] <GnarusLeo> no_gatez_fan, write your settings to you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:58] <no_gatez_fan> ok
[01:59] <rnd_null> is dapper better and breezy?
[01:59] <ompaul> !dapper
[01:59] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[02:00] <ompaul> rnd_null, so it is not released yet, it will be soon, you can take a test run but the doors might fall off on you :)
[02:00] <ubuntu_kip> !cursor
[02:00] <ubotu> ubuntu_kip: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:01] <rnd_null> i'm very new to linux, i've been using 5.10 for a couple of days now, and am getting frustrated...
[02:01] <IdleOne> !tell ubuntu_kip about mouse
[02:01] <eckz^> new to linux but, where is linux winamp (xmms?) in ubuntu...do i need to download it ?
[02:01] <ompaul> rnd_null, okay what have you done and what have you not done? we can get yo uthre
[02:01] <IdleOne> rnd_null>  whats up?
[02:01] <_jason> rnd_null: what is frustrating you?
[02:01] <IdleOne> eckz^>  yes
[02:01] <ubuntu_kip> why my cursor beacomes black
[02:01] <GnarusLeo> eckz^, "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[02:01] <IdleOne> !tell eckz^ about repos
[02:01] <eckz^> oki thx
[02:02] <ubuntu_kip> or inversed
[02:02] <IdleOne> !tell eckz^ about restrictedformats
[02:02] <ubuntu_kip> orb just f****
[02:02] <GnarusLeo> !tell eckz^ about everything
[02:02] <GnarusLeo> :)
[02:02] <eckz^> :p
[02:02] <ompaul> Ubugtu, language - don't even use it with *s thanks
[02:02] <Healot> eckz^, www.xmms.org or "apt-get install xmms" (enable universe section first)
[02:02] <ompaul> ubuntu_kip, language - don't even use it with *s thanks
[02:03] <wuzzy> how do i install a plugin to handle mp3s in gnomebaker?
[02:03] <ubuntu_kip> why my cursor is messed up
[02:03] <rnd_null> ok, first, i'm having trouble with video and video drivers, second, i having trouble with sound other than mp3's and system sounds, third, i cant get gnome to see my plam pc
[02:03] <GnarusLeo> eckz^, but I strongly recamend you to take a look at "amaroK" instead ... its great
[02:03] <rnd_null> other than that, i'm good
[02:03] <eckz^> ok how do i get that ?
[02:03] <GnarusLeo> !tell rnd_null about ask
[02:03] <eckz^> GnarusLeo,
[02:03] <ompaul> rnd_null, what kind of video card have you got
[02:04] <GnarusLeo> eckz^, its the same ... "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[02:04] <jollyjumper> I have just installed ubuntu, but on the first boot, it hangs on "starting hotplug subsystem". It seems to be a problem with the integrated soundcard using snd-hda-intel. I cant disable the soundcard in bios.. I now tried to boot in single user mode, but I still get the same error...
[02:04] <rnd_null> nvidia 6600 gt (128m)
[02:04] <IdleOne> eckz^>  enable universe and multiverse first
[02:04] <Healot> model and manufacturer specific...
[02:04] <rnd_null> gnarusleo, thx
[02:04] <GnarusLeo> jollyjumper, you should start in recovery mode and disable the sound card service
[02:05] <GnarusLeo> jollyjumper, if it even boot in rec-mode?
[02:05] <ompaul> jollyjumper, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions and wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge - the second one seems to work but is a much cruder fix
[02:05] <wuzzy> gnomebaker says: "The plugin to handle a file of type audio/mpeg is not installed" when i try to add an mp3 to an audiocd, what should i do????
[02:05] <GnarusLeo> !tell rnd_null about nvidia
[02:05] <eckz^> IdleOne,  ok but xmms seemd to work, do i still need to enable it ?
[02:05] <ompaul> !tell rnd_null about nvidia
[02:05] <jollyjumper> tnx... Ill have a look at it
[02:06] <IdleOne> eckz^>  probably going to need to do it for others apps :)
[02:06] <rnd_null> ompaul, i spent a bit yesterday telling someone in here about my problems only to have them tell me that they didn't know because they are new too
[02:06] <eckz^> IdleOne,  ok can you tell me how then plz ?
[02:06] <rnd_null> gnarusleo: stop doing that please
[02:06] <ompaul> rnd_null, well first off I had the bot tell you about nvidia cards
[02:06] <theD3viL> howto enable 3d rendering with Mach64? It is old ati card but have 3d support!
[02:06] <fluxt> !tell wuzzy about codecs
[02:06] <administrator> hi to all
[02:06] <IdleOne> rnd_null>  ompaul  can probably help you
[02:06] <Healot> tell Mr. Baker to install all the appropriate plugin for you, wuzzy :)
[02:06] <IdleOne> !tell eckz^ about repos
[02:06] <IdleOne> eckz^> look for msg from ubotu  it will have a link for you
[02:06] <GnarusLeo> rnd_null, its how you get info ... the ubuntu howtos are much more informing and detailed then anything you get in here ..
[02:07] <rnd_null> ompaul, right, everybody does that, and you know what, it hasn't helped yet, after i follow the directions on that, my pc wont even boot
[02:07] <administrator> \nick mon
[02:07] <rnd_null> i end up having to clear my bios to get video back
[02:07] <rnd_null> ompaul,  ^
[02:07] <ompaul> rnd_null, right I read that
[02:07] <administrator> im a new bie
[02:07] <GnarusLeo> administrator, try /nick man :)
[02:07] <IdleOne> administrator> /nick yournickhere
[02:08] <Healot> but you're an administrator ?
[02:08] <ompaul> Healot, I would think it but never say it
[02:08] <wuzzy> !easysource
[02:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:08] <IdleOne> Healot>  he could of set his user as ImASuperLeetRoot lol
[02:08] <ompaul> rnd_null, do you mean it goes to a black screen or just freezes while booting
[02:08] <Healot> newbie is more appropriate :)
[02:08] <rnd_null> ompaul, the part that frustrates me is that when i run the kanotix live cd, all my stuff works fine....(more)
[02:09] <munti78> Is there a program to use for searching for text within multiple files?
[02:09] <Healot> yay
[02:09] <rnd_null> ompaul, ok, when i boot, there is no video output from my card and the monitor goes to power save mode.  after i clear the bios all is good.
[02:09] <sobersabre> munti78 find
[02:09] <aleitner> is there a way to fix system-wide what network card will become eth1 and which one eth0?
[02:09] <jolly_> I have problems getting my soundcard working in ubuntu| everyting looks fine i can see the volume icon
[02:09] <munti78> soversabre: thanks... I'll look into that
[02:09] <jolly_> and i dont have mute on
[02:09] <rnd_null> ompaul, that is only after i try to use the nvidia driver how to from wiki
[02:09] <sobersabre> ok... bye all.
[02:10] <Healot> rnd_null, try the expert install...
[02:10] <GnarusLeo> jolly_, do you get any errors? Or you dont have sound at all?
[02:10] <rnd_null> ompaul, how would that help?
[02:10] <Healot> aleitner, use "ifrename"
[02:10] <ompaul> rnd_null, did you notice that there is more than one nvida driver there,
[02:10] <rnd_null> ompaul, hang on....brb....i'll check
[02:10] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know how I can echo the system log (permanently) to tty12? I used to have it, but completely forgot howto
[02:10] <aleitner> Healot: thanks!
[02:11] <jolly_> GnarusLeo No errors :/
[02:11] <jolly_> its just dont I dont have any sound at all
[02:11] <Blippe> how do i change the "prompt" in the terminal?
[02:11] <GnarusLeo> jolly_, wich sound card do you have?
[02:12] <aleitner> Healot: wasnt there a config file for that too somewhere? one that was prob. read by ifrename behind the scene on every boot automatically
[02:12] <rnd_null> ompaul, this is what everyone keeps telling me to do... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:12] <aleitner> Healot: nevermind, stupid me
[02:12] <jolly_> Sound chip:ADI IC CODEC, AD1986A
[02:12] <ompaul> Blippe, for your options on that type: info bash >> in there do this /prompt then just repeat the / and it will point to prompt a couple of times and you will find all the options you want for it
[02:12] <Healot> aleitner, run ifrename each boot-time?
[02:13] <Blippe> thanks ompaul
[02:13] <GnarusLeo> fluxt, this sounds like your kind of question :) You know how I can echo the whole system log to tty12? Permantently? If ubuntu has a such log though ..
[02:13] <Healot> you can edit the mapping manually... /etc/iftab
[02:13] <jolly_> Sound chip:ADI IC CODEC, AD1986A <-- that the only info i have
[02:13] <ompaul> rnd_null, correct, let me point you at the text that allows you to choose for your one
[02:13] <fluxt> GnarusLeo: it does?
[02:13] <munti78> sobersabre: as I understand, find can't search the text within the files?
[02:14] <GnarusLeo> fluxt, I realyl dont know ... Had a such feature long time ago, but cant remember howto ... "echo /var/sys/log : tty12" or sometig :P
[02:14] <munti78> Is there a program to use for searching for text within multiple files?
[02:14] <fluxt> GnarusLeo: do you mean cat /var/logs/somelog > /dev/tty12 && echo ???
[02:15] <jolly_> GnarusLeo any tips? :)
[02:15] <GnarusLeo> fluxt, that might work :)
[02:15] <_jason> munti78: grep -r
[02:15] <Healot> cat file > /dev/ttyS12
[02:15] <fluxt> GnarusLeo: /var/log/ even
[02:15] <GnarusLeo> sorry jolly_, its difficult for me to answer when you have no errors
[02:15] <jolly_> yeah i see
[02:15] <GnarusLeo> fluxt, is it possible to set up a whole system log? Maybe its too much info :P
[02:16] <no_gatez_fan> I have used other distro's, basically you log in as sudo when on other distros you log in as su -?
[02:16] <_jason> munti78: or just grep works too I guess.  Like grep foo file1 file2, the -r is for recursive.  Depends on what you want
[02:16] <GnarusLeo> fluxt, never mind .. you have a /var/log/syslog
[02:16] <jolly_> cat /dev/null > /dev/dsp  <-- when i get device or resource busy
[02:16] <IdleOne> no_gatez_fan> thats right use sudo for all root tasks
[02:16] <fluxt> Healot: what's the diff between /dev/tty12 and /dev/ttyS12 ?
[02:16] <rnd_null> ompaul, on step 11 it tells me to install the 386 module the same as the others...i cant because it's already installed....did i do something wrong there? i just picked 'reinstall'
[02:17] <no_gatez_fan> kuel
[02:17] <fluxt> GnarusLeo: ok :)
[02:17] <Healot> sorry wrong device, /dev/tty12
[02:17] <ompaul> rnd_null, what is the this GT66000  is that a gforce (sorry but I don't know the cards but I do understand the problem)
[02:17] <Healot> S12 stands for Serial no. 12
[02:18] <fluxt> Healot: oooh, ok :)
[02:18] <rnd_null> ompaul, yes, that is a geforce, that is what i'm runnign
[02:18] <rnd_null> ompaul, running
[02:18] <rnd_null> ompaul, well 6600 gt rather
[02:19] <Healot> if you like to flood your Serial device then do that :)
[02:19] <fluxt> that's what i have rnd_null
[02:19] <rnd_null> fluxt, how did you get it to work?
[02:19] <ompaul> rnd_null, okay now ~I am confused, the question is, is that a gforce series card, if so which series (I just added a second part to the q :-))
[02:19] <Healot> rnd_null, checkout ubuntu hardware compatibility
[02:19] <fluxt> !nvidia
[02:19] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:19] <Healot> find out does default ubuntu install support that card first...
[02:20] <rnd_null> ompaul, yes, it is a geforce series card
[02:20] <rnd_null> ompaul,  6600 series? i believe
[02:20] <fluxt> Healot: unaccelerated, sure
[02:20] <rnd_null> healot, where?
[02:20] <fluxt> rnd_null: visit the guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:21] <Healot> rnd_null, google or ubuntulinux.org?
[02:21] <rnd_null> fluxt, i tried that, it wont work right
[02:21] <Healot> choose :)
[02:21] <munti78> _jason: thanks, it was very helpful!
[02:21] <fluxt> rnd_null: what was the problem?
[02:21] <fluxt> rnd_null: did you get to the stage of the nvidia installer?
[02:22] <ompaul> okay it seems to be one of the newer ones
[02:22] <rnd_null> fluxt step 11 and 16 on the install guide
[02:22] <fluxt> rnd_null: i'll have a look at it
[02:22] <Healot> rnd_null, you might want to try PCLinux... this one is great for hardware detection
[02:22] <katarot> ndisgtk  says  the hardware is present so why is this not working can i went to networks and there is no wlan0
[02:22] <Healot> GT 66xx is pretty new
[02:22] <ompaul> rnd_null, I would suggest that the driver you needed is this one  nvidia-glx
[02:23] <rnd_null> healot, *everything* works great with knoppix based stuff, but i can't find a knoppix based hdd installation
[02:23] <jollyjumper> ok... I now installed as stated in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge , and I still get the hotplug problem...
[02:23] <Elektrochelovek> maybe there is any debs of gnome 2.14 ?
[02:23] <rnd_null> ompaul, that is the one i tried
[02:23] <novem> can anyone help, im trying to get mp3 support for rythymbox, i installed all the codecs and gstreamer etc, rythymbox says playing for a moment then just stops?
[02:23] <fluxt> rnd_null: did the restricted modules install?
[02:23] <Healot> knoppix has the hdd install script, lookout for that
[02:24] <rnd_null> mmm...i think so....i followed the guide....
[02:24] <_jason> novem: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad in particular?
[02:24] <jollyjumper> how do I boot in recovery mode?
[02:24] <novem> lemme check. (pretty sure i did)
[02:24] <katarot> lspci -v | less
[02:24] <katarot>  when i tried this there were 3 drivers none said wireless
[02:24] <Healot> katarot, please state you wifi card brand and model?
[02:24] <_jason> jollyjumper: choose it from the grub menu
[02:24] <ompaul> rnd_null, which guide (there are some I would not trust
[02:24] <feg> hello, is it normal that an expert mode breezy install asks for a root passwd?
[02:24] <suse78> hi did anybody have problems with mysql-server start on ubuntu ?
[02:24] <rnd_null> the same one you told me to follow
[02:24] <_jason> feg: yes, the bot will send you a link about fixing sudo
[02:24] <fluxt> i'm kinda lost then at how it failed, do you have an error message rnd_null
[02:24] <jollyjumper> ok... Same problem when I boot in recovery mode... have tried that...
[02:24] <motin> i've got an urgent annoying problem with newly installed drapper drake...!   the mouse movement is damn slow, and is not affected by the mouse-settings? are there any commands you can recommend me to try?
[02:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell feg about expert
[02:25] <rnd_null> fluxt, nope
[02:25] <novem> yes gstreamer0.8-mad is installed
[02:25] <_jason> novem: run gst-register-0.8
[02:25] <Healot> feg, ubuntu's installation doesn't request for root password
[02:25] <fluxt> rnd_null: then the problem is you have no accel?
[02:25] <_jason> feg: actually, I should ask first: is sudo working?
[02:25] <feg> _jason, no it is not
[02:25] <rnd_null> fluxt, after the ctrl-alt-bkspc, ubuntu wont boot to gnome until i rebuild the xorg.conf
[02:25] <Healot> motin, #ubuntu+1 for dapper's discussion
[02:26] <feg> _jason, working
[02:26] <rnd_null> fluxt, right, no accel
[02:26] <ompaul> jollyjumper, okay for now try wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions and try the first couple of things there to help noacpi in particular
[02:26] <motin> aha
[02:26] <_jason> feg: ok, bot's instructions should take care of it
[02:26] <motin> thanks
[02:26] <novem> _jason: already ran that, ran it again, still having the same problem
[02:26] <Healot> btw.. it is still under testing... motin
[02:26] <fluxt> rnd_null: well x would give you some errors then i suppose
[02:26] <rnd_null> fluxt, which i'm pretty sure causes other accel dependant programs not to run
[02:26] <_jason> novem: does totem work?
[02:26] <katarot> on winxp it says it is a dell wireless mini-pci wlan card and it uses broadcom drivers bcm 4401-b0
[02:26] <wuzzy> hi all! can i use the cipherfunk breezy repository on a dapper installation?
[02:26] <motin> so i recon
[02:26] <motin> but i would like to test it with at least a working mouse...
[02:26] <motin> bye
[02:26] <ompaul> rnd_null, at that time do you choose the driver to be not nvidia but nvidia-glx ?
[02:27] <Healot> if any bugs you found report/checkout it at ubuntu's launchpad site... motin
[02:27] <novem> no totem does not work, same thing, says playing (but no audio) for a second, then stops (paused)
[02:27] <fluxt> rnd_null: i installed the drivers downloaded from nvidias website which is harder to do but might help you
[02:27] <novem> both ryhtymbox & totem ARE reading the id3 info
[02:27] <_jason> novem: you've tried multiple mp3's I suppose?
[02:27] <rnd_null> fluxt, the drivers from the nvidia site wont work because it says they were done with a different compiler, otherwise i'd use those
[02:27] <katarot> healot: i used ndiswrapper and then ndisgtk and both times it said the hardware is present
[02:27] <feg> _jason, thx!
[02:28] <novem> uhm. actually i havent, doh! but i know this mp3 is good. ill try another anyway
[02:28] <fluxt> rnd_null: just a warning, there's a lot to install to do it that way, some big packages
[02:28] <fluxt> rnd_null: the compiler issue is an easy fix
[02:28] <rnd_null> fluxt, how do i do it?
[02:28] <fluxt> rnd_null: export CC=gcc-3.4
[02:28] <munti78> _jason: do you know if it's possible to see the result including line number of matches in files?
[02:28] <novem> tried a few other mp3s, same issue ;o(
[02:28] <_jason> munti78: grep -n I think, check man grep
[02:28] <munti78> _jason: Using grep that is.
[02:29] <fluxt> rnd_null: you need sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:29] <munti78> _jason: nice, thanks alot
[02:29] <_jason> novem: and this is on breezy?
[02:29] <Healot> 99 percent is misinterpreted
[02:29] <novem> dapper
[02:29] <_jason> !dapper
[02:29] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[02:29] <Healot> novem, #ubuntu+1 for dapper's discussion
[02:29] <rnd_null> fluxt, what will that do?
[02:30] <novem> thanks.
[02:30] <Healot> if any bugs you found report/checkout it at ubuntu's launchpad site... novem
[02:30] <katarot> i went on to device manager and i see BCM4401-B0 100 BASE-TX
[02:30] <aroticoz_> how do I install .deb files?
[02:30] <void^> katarot: note that it should say hardware present, driver present
[02:30] <Healot> Broadcom :)
[02:30] <_jason> aroticoz_: what are you trying to install?
[02:30] <kingspawn> oh lord, i just had a four hour meeting. i believe my brain fell out.
[02:30] <IdleOne> aroticoz_> dpkg -i file,deb
[02:30] <caglar> is there a way to control amarok with my palm device using vluetooth?
[02:31] <katarot> void: it does
[02:31] <feg> !expert
[02:31] <IdleOne> aroticoz_> dpkg -i file.deb
[02:31] <ubotu> No working sudo after expert install? as root: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin
[02:31] <Healot> ndiswrapper plus broadcom windows xp driver = broken...
[02:31] <aroticoz_> thanks
[02:31] <fluxt> rnd_null: build-essential will give you gcc-3.4 for a start, export CC=gcc-3.4 ..is used before you run the nvidia binary, you also need the kernel source i believe
[02:31] <void^> katarot: try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:31] <eckz^> how to get and install videolan on ubuntu ?
[02:31] <void^> well, broadcom is .. bleh.
[02:31] <_jason> fluxt: I don't think build-essential includes gcc-3.4, that's a seperate package iirc
[02:31] <jolly_> apt-get install vlc
[02:31] <jolly_> :D
[02:31] <kingspawn> eckz^, synaptic or apt-get
[02:31] <gnomefreak> _jason: it doesnt just 4.0
[02:32] <rnd_null> fluxt, is there a step by step procedure somewhere for that, i'm only on day 2 using linux
[02:32] <rnd_null> fluxt, maybe day 3
[02:32] <fluxt> _jason: i'm pretty sure it is..
[02:32] <Healot> great, rnd_null > /dev/null
[02:32] <kingspawn> rnd_null, whatcha trying to do?
[02:32] <IdleOne> _jason>  build-essential installs the tools needed and for some reason also fixes the gcc3.4 erros you may get when compiling
[02:32] <katarot> void: this is what i got martin@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:32] <katarot> martin@ubuntu:~$
[02:32] <nobuc> alguien habla espaol?
[02:32] <fluxt> rnd_null: apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source ..might help with the lite kern source
[02:32] <gnomefreak> fluxt: build-essential has gcc4.0 not 3.4
[02:32] <jollyjumper> IS there any way to pass a variable during boot that disables the sound? still cant do my first boot over here
[02:32] <void^> katarot: so, anything new in ifconfig -a
[02:33] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: it fixes them because it install gcc along with gcc 4.0
[02:33] <fluxt> rnd_null: afaik, i'm it, perhaps google. i can take you through it
[02:33] <Healot> 3.4 is a separated installation
[02:33] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  there ya go thats it :)
[02:33] <katarot> void: sit0 is there
[02:33] <nobuc> hola hola!!!!!!!
[02:33] <Healot> katarot, you;ve got ndiswrapper working... now ifconfig -a
[02:33] <rnd_null> fluxt, that would be great
[02:34] <fluxt> ok
[02:34] <kingspawn> i thought build-essential installed the linker for you? gcc seems to be present before you install b-e
[02:34] <Jhair> nobuc: don't write in spanish here go to #ubuntu-es
[02:34] <ompaul> !es
[02:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:34] <void^> katarot: check for suspicious messages in dmesg
[02:34] <rnd_null> fluxt, do you use aim or yahoo messnegers?
[02:34] <Healot> katarot, see any "wlan"?
[02:34] <fluxt> rnd_null: sudo apt-get install build-essential nvidia-kernel-source
[02:34] <katarot> no
[02:34] <rnd_null> fluxt, that might be easier
[02:34] <gnomefreak> kingspawn: open synaptic and search for gcc
[02:34] <ompaul> rnd_null, for that on ubuntu - use - gaim
[02:34] <nobuc> 0k
[02:34] <eckz^> apt-get install vlc doesnt seem to work
[02:34] <fluxt> rnd_null: icq
[02:34] <katarot> void: how do i check for messages
[02:35] <void^> katarot: type dmesg
[02:35] <kingspawn> gnomefreak, you can just tell me :) im a work, which means winXP
[02:35] <rnd_null> fluxt, hmm...i dont use icq, jsut aim and yahoo
[02:35] <_jason> eckz^: if you enabled universe, put your errors on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:35] <fluxt> rnd_null: see pm
[02:35] <gnomefreak> kingspawn: gcc is not installed by default some gcc apps are but the package gcc is not
[02:36] <WebWiz> rsync -avz -e ssh bwadmin@ews1:/var/tftpboot /var/
[02:36] <kingspawn> gnomefreak, okay, i see. i tried to compile something on a fresh ubuntu-install, but gcc reported "cant build executable files" - which led me to believe that gcc was there, but not the linker
[02:36] <WebWiz> does that command look ok?
[02:36] <Healot> eckz^, here is my one liner "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:36] <Healot> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[02:36] <gnomefreak> lol nickrud
[02:36] <xenoxaos> Ok, I remember under using zipslack a long time ago (when I had a zip drive), that it left the filesystem as a fat filesystem, yet could still keep the file permissions on the fat filesystem.  Does anyone know how to do that with a fat fs under ubuntu, I was wanting to use it on an external drive that would need to be r/w from a windows box but want to be able to assign permissions and such from under linux. anyone know how
[02:36] <xenoxaos>  to do this?
[02:36] <fluxt> rnd_null: you have a private message window
[02:36] <_lucas>  Can you guys maybe check out my sources.list and tell me if it's good that way: http://rafb.net/paste/results/y4ju6X41.html
[02:37] <xcel> hey everyone! how do i acosiate avi,divx,dvd with VLC?
[02:37] <everton137> Hi, can someone help me in route ports one Ubuntu for me use my webcam? I can access my modem on IP 10.0.0.138, but I am not sure what I have to do.
[02:37] <_lucas> no need anymore
[02:37] <gnomefreak> for gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0 you need to install gcc (build-essential) is the best way to do that. than install 3.4 ;)
[02:37] <rnd_null> fluxt, i know, i'm talking to yo in it
[02:37] <kingspawn> xcel: right click the files and do something very similar to what one does in windows
[02:37] <xcel> oke
[02:37] <katarot> void & healot: there is thousands of messages but i found some with ndiswrapper
[02:37] <gnomefreak> _lucas: what seems wrong?
[02:37] <_lucas> nothing
[02:38] <gnomefreak> _lucas: ok than why are we looking at your list?
[02:38] <_lucas> it's just that I don't get the amarok 1.4 beta when I run a dist-upgrade
[02:38] <everton137> Does someone make webcam works with AMSN 0.95? I need some help.
[02:38] <_lucas> that's why you are ;-)
[02:38] <Healot> katarot, do this "dmesg | grep ndiswrapper"
[02:38] <gnomefreak> _lucas: i  dont see why it would install a beta
[02:38] <Healot> and paste the  output to !pastebin
[02:39] <gnomefreak> everton137: as far as i know no not yet
[02:39] <_lucas> so deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest breezy main  does not include betas?
[02:39] <jollyjumper> in boot options I read you can send hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false... Can I use hw-detect/start_sound=false instead?
[02:39] <everton137> gnomefreak, none has make it work? :O
[02:39] <Healot> lucas, nay
[02:39] <_lucas> so then everything's fine?
[02:39] <wastrel> bah
[02:39] <thegladiator> gaim doesnt support that ?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> _lucas: im sorry it does include beta accourding to the parent directory but please hold for a sec
[02:40] <thegladiator> is there a better messenger client than gaim ?
[02:40] <Healot> depends on how you define "fine", _lucas
[02:40] <gnomefreak> none of them support webcam as of right now
[02:40] <thegladiator> yaho's native ?
[02:40] <GnarusLeo> thegladiator, im very pleased with kopete
[02:40] <katarot> ok i see unknown symbol and stuff
[02:40] <thegladiator> kopete allows "invisible log in" ?
[02:40] <_lucas> gnomefreak says that it would include betas. Then it's not fine because I don't get the beta
[02:41] <everton137> thegladiator, I use gaim for all protocol, but I am trying AMSN for use webcam.
[02:41] <GnarusLeo> thegladiator, dunno
[02:41] <gnomefreak> _lucas: are you on breezy?
[02:41] <_lucas> yes I am
[02:41] <gnomefreak> _lucas: no breezy doesnt include the betas from my understanding
[02:41] <thegladiator> yahoo messenger ?
[02:41] <everton137> thegladiator, I think gaim has invisible logging.
[02:41] <_lucas> So my current sources list will get me the latest non-beta amaroK?
[02:41] <thegladiator> everton137, i dont think it has . could you temme how ?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> _lucas: thats what it looks like
[02:42] <everton137> ok, let me see
[02:42] <katarot> guys i pasted what i got on #flood
[02:42] <_lucas> then it's fine
[02:42] <thegladiator> yep thanks
[02:42] <gnomefreak> _lucas: i dont use kde
[02:42] <IdleOne> katarot>  that doesnt help if we arent in there
[02:42] <IdleOne> katarot>  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for large amounts of text ( anything over 2 lines is a good idea )
[02:42] <ompaul> katarot, you can't say that after the event it is gone ... use pate.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:42] <everton137> thegladiator, you wanna do it for yahoo, no?
[02:42] <thegladiator> yes
[02:42] <ompaul> katarot,  paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:42] <thegladiator> yahoo is all I use
[02:43] <fluxt> rnd_null: /join #fluxt
[02:43] <katarot> ok
[02:43] <thegladiator> !deb
[02:43] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:43] <everton137> thegladiator, do this: tools -> away -> your yahoo account -> your state (wich includes invisible)
[02:44] <Healot> !debra+ian
[02:44] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[02:44] <thegladiator> everton137, are you sure I can do that without first logging into yahoo ?
[02:44] <thegladiator> i think thats like setting status away after loggin in
[02:44] <gnomefreak> !debian
[02:44] <katarot> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10389
[02:44] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[02:45] <thegladiator> i was thinking about invisible log in
[02:45] <everton137> thegladiator, ahhh, withou logging, I just thought you wanna invisible option
[02:45] <katarot> thats what i got
[02:45] <everton137> i dont know then
[02:45] <katarot> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10389  does that look right
[02:45] <thegladiator> yeah its unavailable
[02:46] <everton137> I think only after loggin
[02:46] <everton137> sorry
[02:46] <GnarusLeo> does ubutu have a ftp-deamon? So I can log in with ftp with my shell user account?
[02:46] <GnarusLeo> !ftpd
[02:46] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GnarusLeo
[02:46] <thegladiator> np i am trying out yahoo messenger on linux as deb
[02:46] <suse78> GnarusLeo, shure use sftp :)
[02:47] <everton137> thegladiator, try kopete, I think it can do it
[02:47] <jollyjumper> How do I disable hotplug completely?
[02:47] <thegladiator> yep
[02:47] <GnarusLeo> suse78, thanks :) Is it a service?
[02:47] <thegladiator> thank you
[02:47] <suse78> ist ssh ftp
[02:47] <everton137> I will open kopete for see this.
[02:47] <GnarusLeo> kopete's really nice
[02:47] <suse78> when ssh is runing normaly sftp is also working
[02:47] <suse78> by default config fo shure
[02:47] <GnarusLeo> suse78, ok, thanks alot
[02:48] <everton137> GnarusLeo, does it have support for webcam?
[02:48] <suse78> its much securer than normal ftp
[02:48] <GnarusLeo> everton137, yes
[02:48] <katarot> how do i get it not to fail http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10389
[02:48] <everton137> GnarusLeo, do you know if you have to route ports for use webcam?
[02:48] <_jason> how would I go about restarting alsa?
[02:48] <GnarusLeo> everton137, hm ... have rep's .. but it says sftp has no installation canditate
[02:48] <GnarusLeo> everton137, sorry, hav'nt tried the feature yet
[02:49] <kingspawn> gnomefreak, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html has information about build-essential. it does not in any way contain gcc, it simply instructs the system which programs/packages are needed to compile, link, etc.
[02:49] <everton137> GnarusLeo, ok
[02:49] <GnarusLeo> suse78, oh .. its installed .. how do I enable it? :P I tried conencting now, and it says "refused"
[02:50] <C-O-L-T> ubuntu flight 5 is stable????????/
[02:50] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: what do you think?
[02:50] <thegladiator> no
[02:50] <MistaED> C-O-L-T: until something goes wrong ;)
[02:51] <thegladiator> only final release are called stable :-)
[02:51] <thegladiator> rest comes with statutory warning
[02:51] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: but what is your opinion?
[02:51] <Frogzoo> thegladiator: well that's usually the way betas work :D
[02:51] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: have you experienced something
[02:51] <thegladiator> yes :)
[02:51] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: yes for bugs or for what?
[02:51] <thegladiator> i have not tried 5 but people opine it is better
[02:52] <nickrud> kingspawn: if you do apt-cache depends build-essential, you'll see that it depends gcc4, therefor it 'metacontains' :)
[02:52] <GnarusLeo> does ubutu have a ftp-deamon? So I can log in with ftp with my shell user account? heard sftp would do it, but dont know how it works
[02:52] <kingspawn> nickrud, were we talking about dependencies? haha, if so, then I apologize
[02:53] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, are you a home user with sky above and ground below ?
[02:53] <kingspawn> nickrud, i thought he said that build-essential had gcc in it
[02:53] <thegladiator> nothing much to lose if you botch up ur system , then givge a try :)
[02:53] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: I am just a home user, net, music, video, chat and that is all
[02:53] <Frogzoo> why won't irssi do vertical split windows?
[02:53] <thegladiator> then sure u acn give a try its not bad
[02:53] <kingspawn> gnomefreak, prolly just me that misunderstood. sorry about that. a good page to read through anyhow.
[02:54] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: can I update my system????????
[02:54] <gnomefreak> kingspawn: i am reading it
[02:54] <thegladiator> dont think it works that way
[02:54] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: I have to download and format my hard drive ?
[02:54] <thegladiator> there is a live cd
[02:55] <_jason> Frogzoo: don't believe that is coded in
[02:55] <thegladiator> you can test it and if you feel its good enuf install
[02:55] <thegladiator> you can keep it along with breezy
[02:55] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: but I would like to install to hard drive
[02:55] <Frogzoo> anyone suggest an irc client that can vertically split the window? would be nice on my 1280x800 lappie...
[02:55] <zOap> where can i download 6.04?
[02:55] <thegladiator> test the cd first then install
[02:55] <nickrud> those policy documents are very interesting, but sometimes they assume too much knowledge
[02:55] <thegladiator> zOap, only test available
[02:55] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: ok
[02:55] <thegladiator> 6.04 is not yet out
[02:55] <_jason> Frogzoo: by vertical split you mean one on the left and another on the right correct?
[02:55] <zOap> ok, thanks
[02:56] <Frogzoo> _jason: yes indeedy
[02:56] <moulty> HELLO!
[02:56] <thegladiator> bbl
[02:56] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: where to download dapper flight 5?
[02:56] <moulty> 1st time linux user, just got it online... :D
[02:56] <thegladiator> !flight
[02:56] <ubotu> hmm... flight is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[02:57] <kingspawn> C-O-L-T, also, see topc.
[02:57] <Frogzoo> moulty: congrats & welcome
[02:57] <kingspawn> with topc i am obviously referring to topic.. ;)
[02:57] <thegladiator> moulty, so today is the day u got liberty
[02:57] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: there will be  aflight 6 or this is the last one?
[02:57] <moulty> Frogzoo: ta, *jumps around the room*
[02:57] <thegladiator> u could say :)
[02:57] <moulty> woohooo
[02:57] <thegladiator> unsure flight 6 cud also be there
[02:58] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, cant discuss it here , considered off topic
[02:58] <moulty> aye, i've been ubitten.
[02:58] <theskunk> hey guys, i had to re-install my windows partition, and obviously it has over-ridden the grub bootloader, how do i re-install the grub boot loaded?
[02:58] <theskunk> anybody know where a how-to is on that?
[02:58] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: just answer me
[02:58] <Frogzoo> !tell theskunk about grub
[02:58] <C-O-L-T> yes or no
[02:58] <C-O-L-T> ?
[02:59] <thegladiator> idk
[02:59] <gnomefreak> no
[02:59] <gnomefreak> no likely
[02:59] <moulty> Anyone here use a Terratech DMX6-Fire on Ubuntu?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> not*
[02:59] <theskunk> sweet, thanks
[03:00] <moulty> crap... just thought, do i need a firewall with Ubuntu?
[03:00] <C-O-L-T> Flight 5 includes gnome 2.14?
[03:00] <nickrud> theskunk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:00] <IceBiTe> hello, i have a problem. i have updated from breezy to dapper using aptitude upgrade, and now the graphical mode dont work because it has 2 error: failed to load module "kbd" and failed to load module "mouse".
[03:00] <moulty> or is it safe enough as is?
[03:00] <Frogzoo> moulty: just install firestarter
[03:01] <nickrud> IceBiTe: did you do aptitude dist-upgrade ?
[03:01] <gnomefreak> can we please bring all dapper related topics to #ubuntu+1
[03:01] <moulty> will do, how? is it in the barzzey dvd?
[03:01] <nickrud> forgot where I was, sorry GnarusLeo
[03:01] <nickrud> gnomefreak: ^^
[03:01] <Frogzoo> moulty: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[03:01] <moulty> rgr, ta
[03:02] <gnomefreak> i wasnt directing that to you nickrud lol
[03:02] <nickrud> heh, the shoe fit :)
[03:02] <IceBiTe> sudo aptitude upgrade
[03:02] <C-O-L-T> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/dapper-install-i386.iso
[03:02] <C-O-L-T> sorry
[03:02] <moulty> brb
[03:02] <kingspawn> the barzzey dvd.. excellent!
[03:02] <nickrud> IceBiTe: dist-upgrade is needed (my last dapper comment)
[03:02] <moulty> ;D
[03:02] <moulty> too happy to bother to typer proper
[03:03] <kingspawn> :)
[03:03] <champy> hola
[03:03] <kingspawn> #ubuntu-es
[03:03] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[03:03] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ^^ IceBiTe
[03:04] <jort> anybody know how to install .deb file on ubuntu?
[03:04] <_jason> !deb
[03:04] <gnomefreak> !deb
[03:04] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:05] <jort> thx, but where can i find apt?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> !apt
[03:05] <ubotu> apt is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[03:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell jort about synaptic
[03:05] <moulty> i've another pc, an AMD64 3000, i have the "barzzey" dvd and "dapper" 2.06 flight cd.... should I install 5 from dvd, then install the AMD64 Dapper??
[03:05] <_jason> jort: synaptic is a front-end for apt
[03:05] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> !deb
[03:05] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:05] <jollyjumper> I think I have tried everything in getting ubuntu up and going in my lappy... the integrated soundcard is still the problem, system hangs on first boot during hotplug. snd_hda_intel... cant figure this out... anyone go any tips?
[03:05] <moulty> 6.04*
[03:06] <netpython> hello all
[03:06] <Frogzoo> jort: if you don't have apt, you don't have ubuntu installed....
[03:06] <kingspawn> moulty, you have me laughing here :)
[03:06] <kingspawn> im sitting in my office, saying "barzzey" out loud and snickering
[03:06] <moulty> lol
[03:07] <netpython> Is there a quick n dirty way of adding own pdf's to doc-central?
[03:07] <Frogzoo> moulty: there's 2 reasons not to install the A64 dapper...
[03:07] <nickrud> jollyjumper: add a line snd_hda_intel to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[03:07] <gnomefreak> can use less packages on it. thats the only one i know of
[03:08] <netpython> gnomefreak, nah packages plenty
[03:08] <gnomefreak> netpython: not on 64bit without using chroot
[03:08] <moulty> its got to be drivers... or the lack of?
[03:08] <netpython> gnomefreak, true,however chroot works for me (acroread..)
[03:09] <netpython> Or compiling from 32-bit source heh
[03:09] <IceBiTe> !es
[03:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:09] <Frogzoo> moulty: one A64 has missing codecs/drivers, dapper is beta
[03:10] <netpython> Frogzoo, codecs such as?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> !codecs
[03:11] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:11] <moulty> sure thing, the i386 will work fine?
[03:11] <Frogzoo> netpython: can't say as I don't run a64, but this seems a general impression
[03:11] <GeistDerZeit> Hi Dudes, i've a doubt. I have a Breezy installed in PC A and now i installed it from the iso in PC B. However, while the A version is uptodate, the B one is far outdate and without various apps that i already installed in A. There is anyway to sync both, without an overhead to network and to me, something like copying /var/cache.
[03:12] <netpython> Frogzoo, i use X68_64,can't say many codecs are missing
[03:12] <Frogzoo> moulty: netpython what about flash?
[03:12] <MistaED> geistderzeit: look up apt-proxy
[03:12] <netpython> Frogzoo, What's missing i just recompile from i386 to AMD64
[03:12] <MistaED> you can make your main updating box act as a server repository somewhat, so whatever your updating machine has, the other machine can get it off from it
[03:13] <moulty> netpython: did you just install dapper fresh or did you "upgrade" 'barezzy' *cough*
[03:13] <Frogzoo> GeistDerZeit: well you could try sharing /var/cache/apt via smb/nfs - don't see why that wouldn't work
[03:14] <kingspawn> moulty :)
[03:14] <kingspawn> why the stress about dapper? stay cool till it gets released
[03:15] <kingspawn> (and stay in school)
[03:15] <moulty> ...... aye.... getting over-excited...
[03:15] <moulty> .......64bits.....
[03:15] <moulty> .....*swoon*
[03:15] <kingspawn> haha
[03:15] <Frogzoo> moulty: install breezy - upgrade to dapper - when it breaks, file a bug report :)
[03:15] <kingspawn> it'll make your life SO much better
[03:15] <moulty> :D
[03:15] <kingspawn> all this raving about 64 bits ...
[03:16] <GeistDerZeit> thanks guys, i'll read a bit to figure out how to do what you said.
[03:17] <moulty> ahhhh common, you remember what it felt like when you got your first gig of harddrive space, or 2mb ram "expansion"...
[03:17] <kingspawn> haha
[03:18] <moulty> ....... its like getting my c64 all over again
[03:18] <kingspawn> i am not so old i can't remember the feeling of excitement :)
[03:18] <moulty> *pant*
[03:18] <moulty> Aye, i thought not!
[03:18] <jollyjumper> how do I save in vim?
[03:18] <kingspawn> jollyjumper,  :w
[03:18] <nickrud> youngsters, I remember my first 4k expansion :)
[03:19] <kingspawn> nickrud, during the war.... ;)
[03:19] <jollyjumper> tnx
[03:19] <moulty> ooow.. 4k, *bows*
[03:19] <netpython> qmem
[03:21] <netpython> Frogzoo, flash in a chroot for the time being, haven't looked further yet.
[03:21] <lcore> Is it possible to mount ext3 partition ( m.point /media/data ) so that user mark will be able to read write to the partition? If so howto?
[03:21] <netpython> moulty, dapper..
[03:21] <moulty> mm
[03:21] <moulty> ?
[03:22] <netpython>  netpython: did you just install dapper fresh or did you "upgrade" 'barezzy' *cough*
[03:22] <Wibble-> hey - I'm trying to write a program which puts binary data into mysql - and I want to tail -f the mysql logfile, but the binary characters mess up the terminal.  Is there any way to just display the non-control characters in gnome terminal or any other terminal?
[03:23] <_jason> Wibble-: you can pipe it to ``strings'' would be one way
[03:23] <moulty> just finished installing dapper fresh on the amd, no sound, lan, gfx drivers
[03:24] <Wibble-> perfect _jason - that works nicely.  Thanks.
[03:24] <moulty> was already doing so before we started chatting...
[03:24] <HDS> Hello all
[03:24] <netpython> moulty, no sound?,hmm
[03:24] <moulty> just read up a little...
[03:24] <nickrud> lcore: add to your /etc/fstab:  /dev/XXX /media/data ext3 rw,user,auto 0 0
[03:25] <moulty> its the ALC850, will not work out of the box
[03:25] <HDS> Won't it?
[03:25] <HDS> Mine did
[03:25] <ruschi> Hi there - I just got my brand new Thinkpad T60,  unfortunately ACPI isn't really cool....
[03:25] <moulty> oh
[03:25] <HDS> Strange
[03:25] <ruschi> T60 and ACPI support (ubuntu dapper drake) : echo "XX" > /sys/power/state is not allowed
[03:25] <ruschi>  --- has anyone experience with suspend on a T60?
[03:26] <HDS> Oh, right, i do have a problemw ith the new and (not surprised at this) badder ATI drivers my card is failing 3d tests....
[03:26] <netpython> moulty, i happen to have a alc850 btw, and it gave that gdm sound upon launch..
[03:26] <whyami> ruschi: have you already looked for a solution at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki?
[03:27] <_jason> Wibble-: reading man strings says it only prints strings longer than 4 chars by default, so if you want to see things shorter than that, pass -n 1
[03:27] <moulty> right thanks guys, brb gonna get that firewall on the go... netpython: oh... ok i'll brb to figger it out thanks again
[03:27] <ruschi> yes - but T60 is fairly new and undocumented
[03:27] <ruschi> and the article about general ACPI doesn't cope with my problem
[03:27] <netpython> moulty, yaw
[03:28] <ruschi> I jsut wanted to know if someone else is out there playing with his new Thinkpad
[03:28] <HDS> What should i do with my driver/card so as it wont fail the OpenGL and D3D tests anymore?
[03:29] <whyami> HDS: what kind of card?
[03:29] <HDS> Your favorite linux (un)compatible card ATI
[03:29] <Wibble-> _jason: Your idea about strings made me think more - I'm trying to pipe it through sed so I can just strip the binary data
[03:29] <HDS> X800XL to be precise
[03:30] <whyami> HDS: install the fglrx driver
[03:30] <HDS> Installed aalready
[03:30] <HDS> newest version
[03:30] <ruschi> HDS: ati doesn't look bad anymore once you tried intel i945GM
[03:30] <HDS> For linux it still is bad,
[03:30] <visik7> ruschi: :)
[03:30] <HDS> Next card will be an Nvidia
[03:31] <whyami> HDS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[03:31] <fluxt> nvidia JustWorks(tm)
[03:31] <visik7> ati doesn't provide driver even for x1x00 cards
[03:31] <HDS> I know
[03:31] <sudharsh> hi evryone
[03:31] <Robbster> lo all. I've just taken a fresh Breezy install and dist-upgraded (via cdrom) to dapper flight 5. Now, aside from the dapper kernel not booting, my more pressing problem is that the network card has disappeared? What do I do?
[03:31] <visik7> so ati sucks
[03:31] <sudharsh> is it ok to add dapper repos in breezy
[03:32] <HDS> Whyami: Did that already i know hwo to install and remove the old driver, it's just....failing the tests i have no clue why...
[03:32] <ramvi> I want to have root access / full access to all files on my user. How do I do this? I don't want that "File Browser (root)". I just want to make my system less secure and have full access to all files. How do I do this? Where should I read?
[03:32] <kingspawn> Robbster, stop using dapper.
[03:32] <HDS> Btw- if you have an ATI card or you pity ATI users sign here: http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.html
[03:32] <IceBiTe> using a iso of amd64, the installation process stopped while it is copying and configuring packages, at 76% -> configuring wvdial
[03:32] <IceBiTe> dapper
[03:33] <sudharsh> evolution is crashing whilst opening html mails
[03:33] <Frogzoo> ramvi: sudo -i  & enjoy (until you screw things up badly)
[03:33] <Robbster> kingspawn: I can't believe that it is THAT unstable. They are (were) due for release in 3 weeks.
[03:33] <sudharsh> any havin the same problem
[03:33] <kingspawn> Robbster, personally I just dont see the need to have the latest flight installed and make a lot of hassle about it not working
[03:34] <ramvi> Frogzoo, thanks
[03:34] <sudharsh> hullo i m havin trouble with evolution
[03:34] <sudharsh> can any one help me please
[03:34] <Robbster> kingspawn: two reasons. 1. test to see if it works and perhaps help the community. 2. see if our existing network like dapper for a full release in late april/may.
[03:34] <whyami> HDS: is DRI working? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DRI
[03:35] <Robbster> but is ia just a n/work card....
[03:35] <HDS> um.. damn, ill be back dont have IRC on ubuntu yet so i went the lazy way and did a reboot to doze
[03:35] <HDS> >_<
[03:36] <moulty> 'lo
[03:36] <moulty> how do i start/run firestarter?
[03:36] <edan> how can i burn an image cd??
[03:36] <_jason> moulty: system tools > firestarter
[03:36] <moulty> ta
[03:36] <kingspawn> edan; i believe you can right click the iso
[03:37] <nickrud> edan: right click the iso in the file manager, select write to disk
[03:37] <_jason> moulty: note that the firewall is on even if the gui app firestarter is not open
[03:37] <edan> nickrud, ill try that thnx
[03:37] <moulty> grand!
[03:37] <edan> kingspawn, i do not have that option
[03:37] <lcore> nickrud: thank you "user" did the trick.
[03:38] <kingspawn> edan; both nickrud and I said the same thing, I believe..
[03:38] <nickrud> true
[03:38] <edan> kingspawn, maybe i didnt understand sorry im a bit hard....
[03:38] <nickrud> I was just more complete :)
[03:38] <kingspawn> edan: no problem :)
[03:38] <kingspawn> hehe
[03:38] <moulty> its not there! also the anti-vi i intalled from DVD is not in list, if i goto menu edit, they are both in list and ticked, when apply and open menu-they are not found!?
[03:39] <b-or> is it recommended to install the ubuntu from the harddrive instead of a cd? (any gudies?)
[03:39] <_jason> moulty: you are checking applications menu > system tools, not the system menu?
[03:39] <kingspawn> b-or, i dont believe there exists such a recommendation, no
[03:40] <moulty> aye
[03:40] <edan> i opened write to disc does it burn the image as a file or as an image cd??
[03:40] <kingspawn> edan; it writes the files inside the iso to the disc
[03:40] <_jason> moulty: try 'killall gnome-panel'
[03:41] <moulty> if i goto Applications Menu Editer, I can see firestarter and other apps have installed, but they are not in the menu to run!
[03:41] <b-or> well... any guides?
[03:41] <Frogzoo> moulty: logout & back in
[03:41] <kingspawn> b-or: to installing ubuntu?
[03:41] <moulty> k, brb, ta
[03:41] <kingspawn> b-or: i suggest help.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <b-or> kingspawn: and from the HD?
[03:41] <edan> kingspawn, im trying to burn edubntu for my sister will it do the trik to use the cd as an installation cd?
[03:42] <katarot> what is the real  dmsg i fogot the command
[03:42] <Frogzoo> dmesg
[03:42] <kingspawn> edan: yes sir
[03:42] <edan> thnx
[03:44] <kingspawn> oh well. it is time to leave work and start consuming some quality beer.
[03:45] <kingspawn> theskunk, your time will come, my friend :)
[03:45] <theskunk> yeah, @ 5:00
[03:46] <Co_Fit^Fresh_Sby> hi,guys...
[03:46] <Co_Fit^Fresh_Sby> anyone bi/gay?
[03:47] <Frogzoo> Co_Fit^Fresh_Sby: wrong channel
[03:47] <graveson> having problems configuring ati display adapter,can anyone help me decipher the xorg log
[03:48] <whyami> graveson: paste it and your xorg.conf
[03:48] <whyami> graveson: use the pastebin
[03:48] <graveson> whyami: what is the pastebin
[03:48] <Co_Fit^Fresh_Sby> ups...sorry frogzoo,so...what this channel?
[03:48] <whyami> !pastebin
[03:48] <ramvi> Frogzoo, the sudo -i dosn't give root access in konquer. How do I do that? I need all apps to be able to write to all dirs. quanta has to write to "www" in var for instance
[03:49] <whyami> !tell graveson about pastebin
[03:49] <Blue-Omega> Co_Fit^Fresh_Sby, read the topic
[03:49] <wastrel> !ubuntu
[03:49] <ubotu> ubuntu is probably an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[03:50] <Frogzoo> ramvi: from sudo -i, set a root password, logout & log back in as root - however, you really don't want to do this - it's just an awful idea
[03:50] <byteshack> why do some packages get held back automatically?
[03:50] <jsmidt> Has something happened to the gaim developers?  It seems gaim 2.0 should have been released a while ago and their website hasn't said a thing for months.
[03:50] <ramvi> Frogzoo, okay. Say that I don't do that. How do I allow quanta to write to all dirs in /var/www?
[03:51] <thomas`> anyone here i need help
[03:51] <GnarusLeo> !backup
[03:51] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[03:51] <byteshack> !ask
[03:51] <thomas`> i want to take down my windows xp pc running from linux is that possible?
[03:51] <nickrud> ramvi: it makes better sense to do your work on your web in your home or so, then copy to /var/www when needed. You keep better security that way
[03:51] <thomas`> to just make it bsod?
[03:51] <thomas`> its on network
[03:52] <thomas`> is it possible there is some kind of remote script to mess windows xp up from linux
[03:52] <Gambit-> hey what's the basic X11 ubuntu package called?
[03:52] <thomas`> on another pc on network
[03:52] <ramvi> nickrud, then I would just boot into windows instead and get access to all files
[03:52] <nickrud> thomas`: this is not a hacker channel
[03:52] <Jhair> Gambit-: xserver-xorg
[03:52] <thomas`> haha were is one then?
[03:52] <thomas`> =P
[03:52] <byteshack> !hacker
[03:52] <ubotu> byteshack: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:52] <ramvi> and I want root access to /media/fat (the fat partition for linux and windows to use)
[03:53] <Gambit-> ah right thanks
[03:53] <qpxxpq> Morning y'all
[03:53] <Frogzoo> ramvi: -> man chgrp
[03:53] <tavancini> guys, i want to disable the "hotplug" stuff for a moment... how can i do that?
[03:53] <kbrooks> thomas`, this is NOT  a black hat channel
[03:54] <graveson> whyami:it is pasted
[03:54] <thomas`> i want to reboot it
[03:54] <thomas`> or something
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;ldkfaifa;dlikf;ldkadflkadlf;damn.
[03:54] <thomas`> do something to my windowspc
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> KEYBOARD
[03:54] <whyami> graveson: send me the link
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> alkdfja;ldkfj
[03:54] <thomas`> someones on my comp and i wanna just crash it. frmo here and freak them out
[03:54] <qpxxpq> Kamping_Kaiser: Get a new one, they are like 10$
[03:54] <thomas`> my windows xp comp
[03:54] <kbrooks> thomas`, we don't care. i repeat: this is not a black hat channel.
[03:54] <thomas`> were is one then?
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> qpxxpq: my keyboard just dropped out in *a* chat. i was just etsting...
[03:54] <Frogzoo> thomas`: just login from terminal services client & reboot - done
[03:54] <graveson> whyami: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10392
[03:55] <ramvi> Frogzoo, you want me to google man chgrp?
[03:55] <ramvi> Thanks :)
[03:55] <qpxxpq> thomas`: See that big thick cord that goes into your Power Supply in the back of your computer? Give that a little yank and that will crash your system.
[03:55] <kbrooks> thomas`, we don't know one. and such channels are offtopic on Freenode.
[03:55] <Frogzoo> ramvi: try that from the command line
[03:55] <graveson> whyami:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10391
[03:55] <byteshack> how can I find out what color depth my an instance of x is running at? (as in, a vnc connection to x)
[03:55] <xerox> Do you know how to force a wireless usb dongle to seach of the ap?
[03:56] <kbrooks> ops?
[03:56] <Frogzoo> xerox: man iwconfig
[03:56] <J_P> all this http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages  are supported officialy ?
[03:56] <kbrooks> nalioth, lilo?
[03:56] <qpxxpq> byteshack: There should be a way to right click on the vnc icon that is running in the tray and go to options, there should be a 'connection quality' button where yo ucan change it
[03:56] <xerox> Frogzoo: iwconfig wlan0 ap <whatever> says that it's not supported by the device :-\
[03:56] <nickrud> byteshack: xdpyinfo | grep 'root window'
[03:57] <nalioth> kbrooks: yes?
[03:57] <whyami> graveson: well definitely one problem is that you are using the VESA driver in your xorg.conf. Are you trying to use the ATI driver or fglrx?
[03:57] <nickrud> byteshack: I should read the whole question, worry
[03:57] <byteshack> nickrud, thanks, that actually answers my question
[03:57] <kbrooks> nalioth, someone wants to tajke down his pc from linux and wants to know if thats possible
[03:58] <adamk_> hey guys, is there a repo yet for Gnome 2.14?
[03:58] <nalioth> kbrooks: they want to do what?
[03:58] <byteshack> I'm logged in via vnc to a machine, and I didn't know at what depth that server had been started
[03:58] <Xenos> thomas`: You should google for 'Windows XP force remote shutdown'
[03:58] <kbrooks> nalioth, take down a pc they own, they asked in here
[03:58] <graveson> whyami:yes i am trying to do that by using both the ubuntu provided drivers and the ati drivers ,but when configuring dpkg-reconfigure and reboot or restart x i get a blank screen
[03:59] <nickrud> byteshack: if I'd seen 'vnc' , I would have said nothing, I've never used it
[03:59] <Frogzoo> yes nalioth, some evil perp wants to remotely reboot a windows machine - we expect them publicly flaid
[03:59] <nalioth> kbrooks: with windows, anything is possible
[03:59] <ramvi> Frogzoo, thanks a lot :) I'm not allowed to chgrp ramvi /media/fat though... Know a possible reason?
[03:59] <Xenos> thomas`: There are lines in the DOS command prompt (in xp) to reboot systems on the local network.
[03:59] <wastrel> flayed
[03:59] <nalioth> Frogzoo: who was threatening that ?
[03:59] <Frogzoo> wastrel: fair point
[04:00] <Frogzoo> nalioth: I think someone's overreacting, imo
[04:00] <Xenos> Frogzoo: If it is there system they can do whatever they want.
[04:00] <Frogzoo> Xenos: no arguments from me
[04:01] <kbrooks> Xenos, _if_, of course. if it isn't, they're unauthorized.
[04:01] <HeMan> I have problems with Epiphany and AA-fonts, slashdot.org isn't AA-ed but ubuntu.com is
[04:01] <renlore> hi where can i find drivers for brother mfc-3240c printer?
[04:01] <HeMan> any clues?
[04:01] <Xenos> kbrooks: Then we need to find out if it is his system or not.
[04:01] <HeMan> I'm running dapper drake
[04:01] <kbrooks> Xenos, how, then?
[04:01] <Xenos> renlore: www.brother.com
[04:01] <whyami> graveson: so if you edit the driver and change from vesa to ati you get a blank screen? You could capture your xorg.log after trying this and report it.
[04:01] <kbrooks> thomas`, !!!
[04:01] <Xenos> kbrooks: Ask?
[04:02] <kbrooks> thomas`, is this windows xp system yours?
[04:02] <whyami> graveson: sorry I didn't mean edit the driver. I meant edit the xorg.conf to change the driver from vesa to ati.
[04:02] <kbrooks> thomas`, do you have any access to it?
[04:02] <Xenos> kbrooks: Access is very different from owning. :)
[04:02] <kbrooks> Xenos, i asked both questions.
[04:03] <Xenos> kbrooks: But usually access leads to pwning. ;)
[04:03] <nickrud> !offtopic
[04:03] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:03] <ramvi> I'm not allowed to "sudo chgrp -hR ramvi /media/fat"... Know a possible reason?
[04:03] <whyami> graveson: I'm getting into a time crunch and I'm not sure I can help too much further right now. There's lot of people here who can help you. Try the ati driver and report the log from this and somebody will help.
[04:04] <albacker> ramvi, maybe you havent added yourself in sudo group.
[04:04] <fluxt> !ncurses
[04:04] <graveson> whyami: i am not able to do that since if i change to vesa to ati and restart x the i get a blank screen ? should i DO THAT BEFORE RESTARTING X
[04:04] <ubotu> fluxt: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:04] <nickrud> ramvi: fat doesn't support permissions, you need to mount the partition with predefined permissions
[04:04] <nickrud> !vfat
[04:04] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:04] <thomas`> yes
[04:04] <renlore> Xenos, they have drivers for linux?
[04:04] <thomas`> this is my windows system its mine
[04:04] <enyc> erm
[04:04] <enyc> question ;-)
[04:04] <ramvi> nickrud, Thanks!
[04:04] <thomas`> and yes i do have access to it kbrooks
[04:04] <thomas`> im just trying to do some remote things from my linux pc
[04:04] <enyc> ?should I expect to plugin a 1394 hdd and have it work?
[04:04] <Frogzoo> see - it's thomas' machine - he said so himself :p
[04:04] <kbrooks> thomas`, well, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:04] <enyc> the ohci1394 driver has loaded etc.
[04:04] <jeekl> long question -> http://pastebin.com/607477
[04:04] <enyc> but I dont know howto access the disk ;-)
[04:05] <renlore> oh they have :P
[04:05] <enyc> /dev/sd[abc]  are up (scsi disks) xut I cant see/access a sdc
[04:05] <whyami> graveson: change from vesa to ati, restart X, get the blank screen, then go to the command line <ALT><CTRL><F1>, save the log from the command line, change back to VESA.
[04:05] <enyc> /dev/sd[abc]  are up (scsi disks) xut I cant see/access a /dev/sdd even
[04:06] <J_P> people, universe is supported officaly byr ubuntu team ?
[04:06] <nalioth> J_P: and multiverse, too
[04:06] <sinbox> hi, question: just instaled ubuntu, it found my NIC, it's in device manager, I went to network setup and enabled eth0, tried it dhcp, then fixed IP but both failed to connect to the modem'router  any suggestions?
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> officaly suppoarted?
[04:07] <enyc> sinbox: ?does in work under knoppix?
[04:07] <J_P> officialy supported
[04:07] <nalioth> J_P: uni and multi have devs to make sure the pkgs work with ubuntu
[04:07] <sinbox> no idea i never tried knoppix, this my first linux install ever
[04:07] <enyc> sinbox: it can be handy to boot knoppix etc.
[04:07] <enyc> sinbox: is theere definitely link-light both ends?
[04:08] <sinbox> oki I'll go read on that, thanks
[04:08] <J_P> nalioth: I hear some about ubuntu support officialy only main packages
[04:08] <J_P> this is right ?
[04:08] <sinbox> I see a kink light on the machine, light blinks on the hub, I'll go check on the router and see
[04:08] <nalioth> J_P: yes, i misunderstood your original question
[04:09] <J_P> nalioth:  only this  right :   deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[04:09] <J_P> ?
[04:09] <stef_> bonjour
[04:09] <J_P> and this deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[04:09] <fluxt> !kernel
[04:09] <stef_> connaissez vous le bug dans vlc, concernant les accents?
[04:09] <stef_> comment le resoudre?
[04:09] <wastrel> !fr
[04:09] <Frogzoo> !fr
[04:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:09] <J_P> but deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe  and multi not are not are supported officialy right ?
[04:09] <stef_> ok
[04:09] <nalioth> J_P: yes, that is officially supported.
[04:10] <J_P> nalioth: what ?
[04:10] <J_P> nalioth: only main ?
[04:10] <nickrud> J_P: main & restricted are supported by canonical, yes
[04:10] <sinbox> actually, when the machine was connected directly to the router modem I was getting no light at either end
[04:10] <J_P> ok, but multi and uni not are right
[04:11] <nickrud> J_P: not supported by canonical, yes, but they are supported by the Ubuntu community
[04:12] <J_P> nickrud: becouse I think install ubuntu as server for postgresql 8.x, but 7.5 are in main and 8.x are in multi...
[04:12] <J_P> so, I need secutiry updates in this server.. in pgsql package too
[04:12] <nalioth> J_P: there is no problem with any software in uni  or multi
[04:12] <nickrud> J_P: there must be some licensing issue for postgres (guessing) , main is by definition free, which is the cutoff.
[04:13] <J_P> nalioth: in multi and uni have security updates(fixes) ?
[04:13] <nalioth> J_P: yes, they do
[04:14] <J_P> nalioth: so : waht is diference in supported by canonical(main and restricted) and supported by comunity (uni and multi) ?
[04:15] <vespa02> dsa
[04:15] <nalioth> J_P: i'm not sure, we support everything in here
[04:15] <J_P> nalioth: but deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse not have security updates right ? (backports)
[04:16] <nalioth> J_P: i don't recommend folks to use backports.
[04:16] <nickrud> J_P: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:16] <J_P> ok nalioth, but uni and multi are really stable as main right ?
[04:17] <nalioth> J_P: i've been using uni and multi since warty warthog and never had a problem
[04:17] <apokryphos> J_P: they're pretty stable, yes. Ubuntu has a specific set of developers making packages for them.
[04:17] <J_P> nalioth: ok, thank you!
[04:17] <apokryphos> J_P: still, technically they're not "officially supported"
[04:17] <J_P> apokryphos: humm ok!
[04:17] <iGotNoTime> how do I create a user for root class in ssh?
[04:19] <katarot> is there any other way to get my wirless without ndiswrapper
[04:20] <wastrel> i like me some universe & multiverse packages
[04:20] <wastrel> katarot:  get another wireless card
[04:21] <katarot> wastrel:yeah can you recomend one that has no hassle
[04:22] <wastrel> katarot:  i have a 3com pcmcia wifi card that works nicely.  the intel ones are also well supported
[04:22] <nalioth> !wireless
[04:22] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[04:23] <katarot> wastrel: thanks i  check it out
[04:24] <mehdi> hi everybody :)
[04:25] <zzzZZZZzzz> is it possible to setup internet on winmodem?
[04:25] <Frogzoo> !linmodem
[04:25] <ubotu> hmm... linmodem is To get started with linmodems (aka winmodems), see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[04:27] <mehdi> hi  i would like to enable my 3d  graphic acceleration , i have an ATI card (ATI 3d rage pro) , is it possible ? i tried with mach64 drivers but it doesn't work !
[04:28] <yggdrasil> good morning folks
[04:29] <Frogzoo> morning mr tree
[04:30] <yggdrasil> morning frogzilla
[04:30] <yggdrasil> frogzoola
[04:30] <yggdrasil> :0)
[04:30] <Frogzoo> lol
[04:30] <yggdrasil> well the laptop performed nicely lastnight
[04:31] <yggdrasil> i couched it most of the evening and played .. internal wireless card was up like a charm
[04:31] <yggdrasil> how are you this morning frogzoo ?
[04:32] <nazgulwalker> which software you prefer to watch video files?
[04:32] <yggdrasil> vlc
[04:33] <jeremy1> hi there
[04:33] <Gnumannen> vlc here as well
[04:33] <sinbox> Hi again, after checking syslog it seems the DHCPDISCOVER is running on subnet mask 255.255.255.255  but my network uses 255.255.255.0  anyway I can change the way DHCPDISCOVER searchec?
[04:33] <yggdrasil> its superior right out of the bo
[04:33] <yggdrasil> x
[04:33] <sinbox> vlc is great
[04:34] <yggdrasil> i built a home theater pc and it uses mplayer
[04:34] <yggdrasil> i think it sucks
[04:34] <HeMan> Isn't it possible to use root=LABEL=<my label> as kernel parameter under Ubuntu?
[04:34] <jeremy1> what can I do to start fluxbox on startup
[04:35] <Frogzoo> HeMan: check in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:35] <yggdrasil> jeremy gdm ?
[04:35] <yggdrasil> jsut set it as the default session
[04:35] <yggdrasil> and the nhave it log in autmaticly
[04:36] <HeMan> Frogzoo: When i try to use root=LABEL=<my label> it stops with "Syntax error" when loading init
[04:36] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: xdm
[04:36] <NeoCicak> good morning
[04:36] <yggdrasil> jeremy1 you using that for any particular reason ?
[04:36] <yggdrasil> jsut uninstall it and use gdm
[04:36] <NeoCicak> when is the next ubuntu out?
[04:37] <smo> HeMan: label=label=value looks really nasty to me.  do you know if it'll let you quote it? so root="label=value" ?
[04:37] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: I just want a low ram use system. that's i'm using it
[04:37] <wastrel> june 1 for dapper
[04:37] <yggdrasil> oh
[04:37] <HeMan> smo: i've tried to both use " and '
[04:37] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: And i want to start firefox on startup
[04:37] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: automatically
[04:37] <yggdrasil> jeremy1 you could always just let it start of into the text mode login
[04:38] <yggdrasil> and the start x
[04:38] <yggdrasil> i dot know if xdm can log you in automaticly
[04:38] <HeMan> In Fedora I could use root=LABEL=<my label> with no need to escape it
[04:38] <graveson> can anyone help me decode the xorg.log file .I installed the ATI driver ,but when enabling the ATI driver and rebooting my systemhanges
[04:38] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: It does
[04:38] <yggdrasil> oh i see
[04:38] <yggdrasil> google it
[04:38] <xota> excuse me, what is a linux-header? special modules for our kernel?
[04:39] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: What i want the system to do is. it should start x auto and start firefox that's all
[04:39] <yggdrasil> jeremy you need to have a xdm log you in
[04:39] <HeMan> the reason i like to use labels is that it's a SCSI system with the external scsi-bus as the first bus which means that if I put a drive on the external bus it won't boot...
[04:39] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: oh
[04:39] <yggdrasil> and then you edit your um .xsession to just be firefox
[04:40] <svu> who is building gnome-applets in ubuntu?
[04:40] <yggdrasil> fvwm might be nice to have though but flox box ive run ona p130 with 32 mb of ram and it was a champ
[04:40] <HeMan> so if anyone has a better solution than using labels i gladly use it
[04:40] <MatyasZA> Yipee I got it to work UBUNTU for the win!
[04:41] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: ok then i'll install fvwm to check, but what do i do there after to start firefox on startup
[04:41] <nickrud> jeremy1: you can add any apps you want to start along with gnome in System->Prefs->Sessions tab Startup programs
[04:41] <blake> anyone tell me how to fix my apace2 to let people view webpages on the box through ~user account ?
[04:41] <yggdrasil> jeremy1 do you hve flux up and running ..
[04:41] <nickrud> arg, nm
[04:41] <yggdrasil> jeremy its the .xsession file in your ~/.xsession
[04:41] <yggdrasil> or rather ~./xsession
[04:42] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: ya i have flux up, but it work when I startx
[04:42] <yggdrasil> hmm
[04:42] <nickrud> yggdrasil: right the first time
[04:42] <yggdrasil> yea
[04:42] <No1Viking> I need a good CD ripper
[04:43] <nickrud> jeremy1: in that .xsession file, add    firefox &    somewhere before the last line
[04:43] <yggdrasil> jeremy1 say again ?
[04:43] <blake> anyone tell me how to fix my apache2 to let people view webpages on the box through ~user account ?
[04:44] <yggdrasil> jeremy1 msg me
[04:44] <jeremy1> yggdrasil:
[04:44] <krang> howdy all
[04:45] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: can I explain you someting wuickly
[04:45] <Frogzoo> HeMan: not sure if it helps - but LABEL is something done in initrd, not the kernel
[04:45] <yggdrasil> sure
[04:45] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: I did a server install with ubuntu breezy right
[04:45] <yggdrasil> yar
[04:45] <krang> Anyone: am I going to get problems if I add a debian apt repository and gaily intall stuff from it?
[04:46] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: Then I installed x,and all the other stuff it needed and then fluxbox
[04:46] <yggdrasil> ok
[04:46] <yggdrasil> makes perfect sense
[04:46] <takedown> !easysource
[04:46] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:46] <nickrud> krang: yes, there's no promise of binary compatibility
[04:46] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: Then i started x and flux didnt want to start it gave me an error
[04:46] <krang> So i should really compile my own stuff then?
[04:46] <yggdrasil> oh i see
[04:47] <yggdrasil> jeremy1 msg me
[04:47] <yggdrasil> ill get you fixed up
[04:47] <yggdrasil> ilike flux
[04:47] <nickrud> krang: just about anything you want out of debian can be found in ubuntu, except maybe the latest from unstable
[04:47] <krang> ubotu: thx for that link
[04:47] <graveson> can anyone help me decode the xorg.log file .I installed the ATI driver ,but when enabling the ATI driver and rebooting my system hangs ?
[04:48] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: The error is that there were no .xsession in my home dir
[04:48] <yggdrasil> yep
[04:48] <krang> nickrud: Are you sure? I just installed it and can't find effectv, which is allegedly at the debian site for woody or later
[04:48] <yggdrasil> so just vim ~/.xsession
[04:48] <krang> no nmapFE either
[04:48] <yggdrasil> and the write startfluxbox and save it
[04:49] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: But i found out that fluxes .xsesion file were in /usr/share/.xsession
[04:49] <nickrud> krang: effectv is in universe, it's not automatically enabled in your sources.
[04:49] <renlore> how do i set the username and password for the CUPS wrapper?
[04:49] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: I think the file is called flux.desktop
[04:49] <yggdrasil> jeremy hang on im checking it for you
[04:49] <nickrud> !tell krang about sources
[04:50] <blake> anyone tell me how to fix my apache2 to let people view webpages on the box through ~user account ?
[04:50] <krang> oooh ok, reading time i think. thanks!
[04:51] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: So i created a link between /usr/share/xsession/fluxbox.dektop and .xsession in my home dir
[04:51] <smo> blake: afiak it should work out of the box, as long as ~/public_html/ exists, and is readable by the www-data user
[04:51] <yggdrasil> oh no i dont htin kthats right jeremy1
[04:51] <No1Viking> I need a good CD ripper, any suggestions?
[04:51] <blake> well the homepage of it works
[04:51] <blake> but when i try to view the users on the boxs public_html
[04:51] <Samy> Oh my god I'm on a English channel ^^"
[04:51] <HeMan> Frogzoo: ah!
[04:51] <blake> says permission denied
[04:51] <nickrud> jeremy1: create ~/.xsession , put firefox & on the first line, fvwm on the second (no &) and startx
[04:51] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: But When i started flux it worked
[04:52] <Samy> Is there a French channel here? :P
[04:52] <krang> Samy: Was farbe hat der bleistift?
[04:52] <smo> blake: most likely you need to make sure both /home/user and /home/user/public_html are either readable (+rx) by www-data or world
[04:52] <wastrel> pencil?  bleistift - we're talking about pencils?
[04:52] <Frogzoo> !tell samy about fr
[04:52] <yggdrasil> jeremy try to jsut do . sudo dpkg-reconfigure fluxbox
[04:52] <krang> I didn't know any other foreign words :-)
[04:53] <No1Viking> I need a good CD ripper, to mp3 and/or ogg, any suggestions?
[04:53] <jeremy1> nickrud: should i just create a .xsession file and put that in there
[04:53] <blake> whats the command to do that to a account ? chmod ? someting ?
[04:53] <Samy> Thank you man
[04:53] <smo> blake: chmod o+rw path, I believe
[04:53] <nickrud> jeremy1: yeah, that's the startx method. You can put anything in there you want, like xclock & and xterm &
[04:53] <blake> thanks , ill try that now
[04:53] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: it does nothing
[04:53] <smo> blake: my mistake, +rx, NOT +rw
[04:54] <nickrud> jeremy1: the last line should be your window manager, without the &
[04:54] <Dragon> hi
[04:54] <HeMan> Frogzoo: Do you know if there is any way around the "scsi-rename-problem"?
[04:54] <No1Viking> I need a good CD ripper, for ripping to mp3 and/or ogg, any suggestions?
[04:54] <green_earz> No1Viking: check out grip   > aptitude show grip
[04:55] <ardchoille> Where can I find a webpage with a release schedule for Ubuntu?
[04:55] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: Are you still there
[04:55] <blake> still not working
[04:56] <blake> Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
[04:56] <wastrel> ouch
[04:56] <smo> blake: did you spot my correction with +rw vs +rx ?  last thing I want to do is leave you with world-writable homedirs
[04:56] <blake> yup
[04:56] <jeremy1> nickrud: I did create the file and I've put in startx
[04:56] <jeremy1> nickrud: What next
[04:56] <blake>  chmod o+rx /home/blake/public_html
[04:56] <nickrud> jeremy1: the file you put that stuff in is ~/.xsession
[04:56] <jeremy1> nickrud: That's right i did that
[04:57] <yggdrasil> jeremny1 im here
[04:57] <Dragon> #ubunto-ko
[04:57] <HeMan> No1Viking: you don't like sound-jucier?
[04:57] <nickrud> jeremy1: then, startx will start X, and run through those lines, starting them.
[04:57] <Frogzoo> HeMan: might be possible to rebuild initrd to get it to work - though I wouln't really know
[04:57] <yggdrasil> did you add that to you .xsession ?
[04:57] <yggdrasil> once you get flux up and runing ill help you set your startup stuff
[04:57] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: ok
[04:57] <yggdrasil> theres abit of a trix to it
[04:58] <yggdrasil> just add that to your .xsession right nickrud
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> i always used .xinitrc :P
[04:58] <jeremy1> nickrud: Must I put fluxbox in my .xsession file to
[04:58] <nickrud> yggdrasil: the flux stuff, I don't know the app names
[04:58] <nickrud> Dr_Willis: depreciated :)
[04:58] <No1Viking> HeMan, I wanted the CDDB function
[04:59] <yggdrasil> nuckrud if he can get flux up and running ... i can make flux do things the way its designed to
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> nickrud,  actually i thought .xsession was depreciated about 10 yrs ago. :P
[04:59] <blake> smo: still noit working
[04:59] <No1Viking> HeMan, I isntalled grip and that one looks really interesting!
[04:59] <roh> re
[04:59] <No1Viking> green_earz, Thanks for the suggestion. Looks really nice!  :)
[04:59] <jeremy1> nickrud: I can only start x now my flux dont work
[04:59] <Howitzer> Is it possible to access TTY1 with a gnome-terminal in X?
[05:00] <smo> blake: I'm not sure what else would deny that.  have you changed 'Options Indexes' anywhere in the config?  do you have userdir.load in /etc/apache2/modules-enabled/  ?
[05:00] <yggdrasil> jeremy1 what did you add to your .xsession
[05:00] <jeremy1> nickrud: I added startx
[05:00] <nickrud> jeremy1: you only started the window manager portion, you should be able to move the windows. You'll need yggdrasil to tell you which extra apps to add
[05:00] <smo> blake: grasping at straws here .. permissions on public_html is the only way I've broken /~user/ dirs
[05:00] <chuckyp> Howitzer, what do you mean?
[05:00] <jeremy1>  I added startx
[05:00] <yggdrasil> no
[05:00] <yggdrasil> you need to add fluxbox
[05:00] <yggdrasil> or startfluxbox
[05:01] <nickrud> Dr_Willis: heh. I checked the startx man page
[05:01] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: ok I'll do that now
[05:01] <tepy> If I wanted to check a .com domain for all links to another .com domain, what would or could I use? Ohhh, and hello everyone.
[05:01] <Howitzer> chuckyp, i have mpg123 running in TTY1 because i restart X a lot, however i don't want to switch to TTY1 all the time to go to the next song or anything
[05:01] <blake> smo: yeah there is a userdir.load
[05:01] <Howitzer> So i want to access TTY1 from within X
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> sample .xsession -> 2 lines, line 1    xterm &      line 2   exec fluxbox
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:02] <chuckyp> Howitzer, unless you start it using screen thats the only way I know how to do it other wise you'd have to ctrl+alt+f1
[05:02] <chuckyp> Howitzer, and then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to x.
[05:02] <chuckyp> Howitzer, but if you start it with screen you should be able to attache to that screen from withing gnome terminal
[05:02] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: fluxbox actually started now after that change, thx for that
[05:02] <blake> LoadModule userdir_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_userdir.so
[05:02] <Howitzer> hmm
[05:02] <Howitzer> okay
[05:02] <Howitzer> i'll try that, thanks
[05:02] <smo> blake: afraid I'm outta ideas then.  you've managed to break something I haven't (yet)
[05:03] <chuckyp> Howitzer, np
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> heh - such a simple thing.. being made way too hard. :p
[05:03] <yggdrasil> jeremny 1 awesom
[05:03] <yggdrasil> now your gonna go into ~/.fluxbox
[05:03] <LazyAngel> never mind
[05:03] <chuckyp> Howitzer, or if they have some sort of other interface for it. i.e. web control or something.
[05:03] <tepy> Keep it Simple Silly
[05:03] <nickrud> Dr_Willis: true, too bad I don't know flux enough to know which app it was
[05:04] <yggdrasil> and your gonna edit ~/.fluxbox/apps
[05:04] <blake> smo: <IfModule mod_userdir.c>
[05:04] <blake>         UserDir public_html
[05:04] <blake>         UserDir disabled root
[05:04] <blake>         <Directory /home/*/public_html>
[05:04] <blake>                 AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
[05:04] <blake>                 Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec
[05:04] <blake>         </Directory>
[05:04] <HeMan> No1Viking: umm, in my sound-juicer i have CDDB-support...
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[05:04] <yggdrasil> to have [startup]  {firefox &}
[05:04] <yggdrasil> thats it.
[05:04] <No1Viking> HeMan, do you?
[05:04] <wastrel> pastebin or #flood
[05:04] <yggdrasil> then you can right click on the desktop and say um
[05:04] <smo> blake: as long as Indexes is there, you shouldn't need an index.html, that was my last random guess.  (and recommend pastebin.ca in future .. people don't like multi-line pastes in the channel)
[05:04] <yggdrasil> restart
[05:05] <chuckyp> !tell blake about paste
[05:05] <HeMan> No1Viking: or atleast musicbrainz-support
[05:05] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: where do i put firefox
[05:06] <HeMan> No1Viking: it solved my cd's so i figured it used CDDB
[05:06] <yggdrasil> and your gonna edit ~/.fluxbox/apps
[05:06] <yggdrasil> to have [startup]  {firefox &}
[05:06] <saif> hello,
[05:06] <saif> can i give some1 the ability to mount, without giving him sudo?
[05:06] <shigs> saif: SMB?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> saif,  the 'user' and 'users' option in the fstab make the specific mount point mountable by users
[05:07] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: Can I put firefox last on the list
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> i forget how user differes from 'users' however.
[05:07] <yggdrasil> what else are you putting in there ..
[05:07] <yggdrasil> thought u just wanted firefox
[05:07] <yggdrasil> you can do whatever you want just as long as your stick to that .. schema
[05:07] <No1Viking> HeMan, Where do you see that funtionality, for example in the settings?
[05:07] <saif> Dr_Willis, well, the thing is, users will be getting image files, and they need to mount it with -o loop
[05:07] <saif> do i have to add a mount point for each image?
[05:07] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: yes sorry only firefox, do you know exacly where i should put it
[05:07] <nickrud> users lets anyone unmount
[05:08] <yggdrasil> uh..
[05:08] <Frogzoo> saif: you need to configure sudo to allow mount
[05:08] <Gambit-> hm I just finished installing xserver-xorg but now it says it needs some fonts, what's the font package it's lookign for? (specifically, finding the 'fixed' font)
[05:08] <yggdrasil> edit ~/.fluxbox/apps to have ... [startup]  {firefox &}
[05:09] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: there is no apps file
[05:09] <HeMan> No1Viking: I don't, it just works...
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> make one :p
[05:10] <yggdrasil> jeremy 1
[05:10] <No1Viking> HeMan, Ok, seems the CD I have is not listed in that database
[05:10] <yggdrasil> is there a .fluxbox ?
[05:10] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: yes
[05:10] <yggdrasil> just make it i guesse
[05:10] <HeMan> No1Viking: The reason I found out it was Music Brainz is that I selected "Submit Track Name" under Disc and it sent me to their web-page
[05:10] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: there is init,keys,menu,slitlist,startup
[05:11] <yggdrasil> yea ok just do the apps
[05:11] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: I created the file
[05:12] <yggdrasil> i made the mistake of messing with the startup.. dont do that
[05:12] <xxenon> Hi. I added a Samba share in my fstab. I'm getting Operation not permitted when trying to mount it. Any idea ?
[05:12] <Gambit-> So other then the xserver-xorg package, what else do I need to install?
[05:12] <dguti> ola
[05:13] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: Is there a spicific way of editing the file
[05:13] <dguti> hello
[05:13] <aeon17x> !breadcrumbs
[05:13] <ubotu> aeon17x: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:13] <yggdrasil> edit ~/.fluxbox/apps to have ... [startup]  {firefox &}
[05:13] <aeon17x> !coffee
[05:13] <ubotu> 418 I'm a teapot
[05:13] <yggdrasil> just write that [startup]  in the first line
[05:13] <dguti> what your name?
[05:13] <yggdrasil> just like it is there
[05:13] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: Should i put it in just like that
[05:13] <yggdrasil> jsut write that in the first line.
[05:13] <yggdrasil> [startup]  {firefox &}
[05:13] <dguti> have you got amsn?
[05:13] <yggdrasil> just like that
[05:13] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: [startup]  {firefox}
[05:14] <yggdrasil> [startup]  {firefox &}
[05:14] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: [startup]  {firefox &}
[05:14] <yggdrasil> so that it goes to the background with th &
[05:14] <yggdrasil> yes
[05:14] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: ok
[05:14] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: I'll do that now
[05:14] <dguti> give my
[05:14] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: I'm done with that
[05:14] <yggdrasil> right click on the desktop and restart
[05:15] <mgarcia> hello
[05:15] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: ok
[05:15] <yggdrasil> did it work ?
[05:15] <dguti> no
[05:16] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: yes awsome thanx for that :)
[05:16] <saif> in sudo, there are options like "username all = (ALL) all" , can i change it to have only mount? any1 faq's on this?
[05:16] <yggdrasil> your welcome
[05:16] <saif> i mean, the file /etc/sudoers
[05:16] <dguti> have you got a amsn?
[05:17] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: can this be done with other window managers too
[05:17] <yggdrasil> you can make anythign start up in there its better than the .xsession cuz .. well cuz its fluxbox calling them
[05:17] <yggdrasil> jeremy no i think they are different
[05:17] <lkj1> Why isn't my thumbrive showing up in/etc/fstab or /etc/mtab?
[05:17] <yggdrasil> youll learn to love fluxbox.
[05:17] <yggdrasil> its small and powerfull.
[05:17] <dguti> give my the telephon number of you
[05:17] <dguti> please
[05:17] <mgarcia> have you got a msn
[05:17] <payrok> fluxbox, blackbox, two awesome window managers
[05:18] <markitoxs> hello
[05:18] <payrok> i agree there agg
[05:18] <yggdrasil> never tried blackbox
[05:18] <mgarcia> hello
[05:18] <dguti> hello markitox
[05:18] <payrok> fluxbox is based on blackbox
[05:18] <yggdrasil> is it better than flux ?
[05:18] <yggdrasil> oh intersting
[05:18] <markitoxs> does anyone now, how to change that horrible brown color that shows up while loading?
[05:18] <mgarcia> have you got a msn
[05:18] <mgarcia> ?
[05:18] <yggdrasil> so flux is prob a bit nicer ?
[05:18] <payrok> yeah
[05:18] <dguti> hello payrok
[05:18] <payrok> but blackbox is still nice
[05:19] <payrok> hi dguti
[05:19] <dguti> hi payrok
[05:19] <mgarcia> have  you got a msn
[05:19] <dguti> have you got a amsn?
[05:19] <yggdrasil> jeremy now you just have to figure out how to make xdm log you in automaticly
[05:19] <payrok> no
[05:19] <dguti> payrok
[05:19] <dguti> ok
[05:20] <mgarcia> have you got a amsn
[05:20] <alterr> hello guys,  how many kernel's  have into the  repository of ubuntu ?
[05:20] <markitoxs> does anyone now, how to change that horrible brown color that shows up while loading?
[05:20] <payrok> for breezy the latest is 2.6.12-10
[05:20] <payrok> i think
[05:20] <yggdrasil> markitoxs im down with that tooo
[05:20] <payrok> dapper is using 2.6.15
[05:21] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: Can you help with configuring firefox to start in full screen without top bars and side bars
[05:21] <markitoxs> yggdrasil, it's horrible... lol
[05:21] <lafferpt> this is very basic but I can't seem to understand it N=1; until test "$N" -gt "10"; do echo "Number $N"; N=$[N+1] ; done ..... shoudn't it be -lt rather than -gt... but it prints the result Number 1 til 10
[05:21] <dguti> ola
[05:22] <lafferpt> adeus
[05:22] <dguti> adeuss
[05:22] <dguti> capullo
[05:22] <_jason> lafferpt: it says ``unitl'' not ``while''
[05:22] <dguti> todos
[05:22] <mgarcia> adeuss
[05:22] <mgarcia> capullo
[05:22] <mgarcia> todos
[05:22] <dguti> cabronessssssssssssssssssssssssss
[05:22] <alterr> wtf ?
[05:22] <mgarcia> por no darnos msn
[05:22] <yggdrasil> jeremy whats your screen resolution ?
[05:23] <mgarcia> capoullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooo
[05:23] <dguti> strange tales
[05:23] <mgarcia> k capulllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosssssssssssss
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> jeremy1,  theres a firefox extension that can do that.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> jeremy1 - you trying to make your own web-koisk?
[05:23] <manterxke> hi
[05:23] <mgarcia> capulllossssssss cabronesssssssssss
[05:23] <lafferpt> _jason, but shoudn't it be -lt?
[05:23] <markitoxs> yggdrasil, i found it
[05:23] <markitoxs> :)
[05:24] <payrok> isn't there a kiosk package in the repository?
[05:24] <mgarcia> capullosssssssssss
[05:24] <jeremy1> Dr_Willis: you right can you tell where to get it
[05:24] <mgarcia> cabtrromn
[05:24] <manterxke> mgarcia is fjdsgv
[05:24] <payrok> i can't check right now cause I'm running autmatix
[05:24] <markitoxs> yggdrasil, $ sudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[05:24] <markitoxs>    change the BackgroundColorsetting
[05:24] <_jason> lafferpt: if it were ``while'' that would work
[05:24] <pizzadude> any idea when dapper will be released?
[05:24] <yggdrasil> ahh cool
[05:24] <yggdrasil> whats black
[05:24] <Yamatetsu> Coucou la room ! :)
[05:24] <yggdrasil> jeremy what did you come up with ?
[05:24] <payrok> someone is trying to delay it about 6 weeks to polish the installer
[05:25] <payrok> so don't get too anxious yet
[05:25] <_jason> lafferpt: try putting the ``while'' in there instead of ``until'' and change -gt to -lt to see what happens
[05:25] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: I dont know how to check my resolution
[05:25] <yggdrasil> oh
[05:25] <Schmidt> is it possible to change the inconding in mc?
[05:25] <yggdrasil> um
[05:25] <yggdrasil> prob 800x600
[05:25] <lafferpt> _jason, gotta check my english dictionary for until
[05:25] <lafferpt> _jason, :S
[05:25] <yggdrasil> just do firefox -height 800 -width 600
[05:25] <yggdrasil> see how that looks
[05:25] <_jason> lafferpt: basically it negates the condition and is the same as while
[05:26] <manterxke> billy goat
[05:27] <manterxke> son of a bitch
[05:27] <lafferpt> _jason, got it
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> jeremy1,  the firefox extension web site.
[05:27] <mgarcia> son of a bitch
[05:27] <manterxke> your mother
[05:27] <jeremy1> Dr_Willis: yeah
[05:28] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: Where should type tha tin the terminal
[05:28] <mana_> ana
[05:28] <mana_> ola
[05:28] <mana_> hello
[05:28] <manterxke> go at the shitty
[05:29] <_jason> !language
[05:29] <ubotu> it has been said that language is please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[05:29] <manterxke> your moyther
[05:29] <mgarcia> hijo de pura
[05:29] <thegladiator> is there a firefox quickstarter ?
[05:30] <gnulinux> Anyone installed gcc for a PowerPC?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> gnulinux,  you mean on the PPC version of Ubuntu?
[05:30] <gnulinux> yes, breezy
[05:30] <jeremy1> yggdrasil: I have to leave u guys now, but can we go further with this on another time hey
[05:30] <mana_> billy goat
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install build-essential
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> for the core development files.
[05:31] <thegladiator> is there a firefox quickstarter ?
[05:31] <jeremy1> Dr_Willis: Can you give me the link
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  i dont  think anyone knows what you mean.
[05:31] <thegladiator> to minimize the load time of FF ?
[05:31] <payrok> what do you mean quickstarter
[05:31] <gnulinux> Tried. Can't find the package
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> jeremy1,  its got a link in the 'extensions' menu of firefox. or google.com/firefox
[05:31] <payrok> you could try getting the new optimized version of firefox
[05:31] <payrok> swiftfox i think
[05:32] <thegladiator> i m on 1.5 right now
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> !info build-essential
[05:32] <thegladiator> swift fox ?
[05:32] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[05:32] <Howitzer> Hirvinen, i was wondering how you could measure if the traffic coming and going trough your pc is going via LAN or internet
[05:32] <thegladiator> where can I get it ?
[05:32] <thegladiator> !swiftfox
[05:32] <_jason> gnulinux: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[05:32] <ubotu> thegladiator: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:32] <mana_> bello
[05:32] <jeremy1> Dr_Willis: Ok thanks for everything I have to leave you now
[05:32] <payrok> ithiink that's the name
[05:32] <mana_> buafhsdujfiasdfoiasd
[05:32] <mana_> fdfajsdfijasdf
[05:32] <mana_> idiotas
[05:32] <thegladiator> of a softaware or a plugin / extention ?
[05:32] <payrok> replacement for firefox,
[05:32] <Howitzer> The thing is this: i'm using vncviewer to connect to my windows desktop downstairs, however, i don't know if i'm connecting trough LAN or right over the internet.
[05:32] <mana_> idiotic
[05:33] <mana_> tu madre es idiota
[05:33] <_jason> mana_: please stop
[05:33] <_jason> !es
[05:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:33] <thegladiator> thanks payrok http://getswiftfox.com/
[05:33] <gnulinux> sure
[05:33] <yggdrasil> jeremy1 thats gonna be in your .fluxbox/apps cdm
[05:33] <yggdrasil> cmd
[05:33] <thegladiator> its for amd exclusively
[05:33] <yggdrasil> later
[05:33] <payrok> i can't remember the details, but i don't think they stripped anything, i think it's just better optimised
[05:33] <payrok> theglad no problem
[05:33] <truz24> What makes pinging the "hostname" of a machine work?  On a couple of boxes, I can ping by hostname, others say "host not found"
[05:33] <HymnToLife> truz24> sudo nano /etc/hosts
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> truz24,  on windows box's it works?
[05:33] <truz24> no, 2 diff ubuntu
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> or are these all linux box's
[05:34] <truz24> windows always work
[05:34] <truz24> 2 installations of ubuntu server
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> "windows always work" -  *shudder*
[05:34] <truz24> trying to ping from a windows box
[05:34] <payrok> well, I shall return later
[05:34] <joakkinen> #ubuntu-en
[05:34] <payrok> i need to reboot
[05:35] <gnulinux> sources.list is posted . Name gnulinux
[05:35] <_jason> gnulinux: for future reference, it's easier if you give everyone a link, but I got it
[05:35] <gnulinux> sure
[05:35] <portoport> hello gurus
[05:35] <gnulinux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10398
[05:36] <portoport> libpam-mysql    how can i install this one?
[05:36] <portoport> apt-get cant find it
[05:36] <_jason> gnulinux: you are missing the main repository, are you comfortable editing /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:36] <yggdrasil> so anyonw have any ideas on working with the intel 82830 830 video driver ? . i got x but whenever i drop into a console ctrl alt f2 say andi try to got back to ctrl alt f7 the screen does some wierd fade and it bascily crashes...
[05:36] <gnulinux> think so
[05:36] <portoport> any help for me?
[05:37] <_jason> gnulinux: actually, you have some repititions.  It may be easier for you to just create a new one and replace your current one.  The bot will send you a link to make that easy
[05:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell gnulinux about easysource
[05:37] <Stormx2> Has dapper got the new GNOME, or when will it get it?
[05:37] <hartym> little question: i set up samba share with the sharing tool provided in ubuntu, but windows box from which i try to access the share ask me for a password which is different from mine, so is this tool working or not on his own or not at all?
[05:38] <nickrud> portoport, that package is in universe
[05:38] <tom_> sorry but does any one know where is can find the dapper resipratories i want to update on my test box
[05:38] <nickrud> !tell portoport about easysource
[05:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell tom_ about upgrade
[05:39] <portoport> ok going to that site nickrud
[05:39] <tom_> thank you
[05:39] <No1Viking> How changing locales in dapper?
[05:39] <Frogzoo> hartym: u need to either set an smb passwd with 'smbpasswd' or change smb.conf to use the nix passwd
[05:39] <chuckyp> !tell No1Viking about dapper
[05:40] <nickrud> No1Viking: dapper questions on dapper ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:40] <nickrud> No1Viking: um #ubuntu+1 :)
[05:40] <ifeanyi> hey i need help
[05:40] <_payrok> ok
[05:41] <_payrok> ifeanyi what do you need
[05:41] <ifeanyi> am trying to get my sound card to work
[05:41] <No1Viking> Wow, a nice old fire!  :)
[05:41] <_payrok> sounds like fun, what's wrong?
[05:41] <nickrud> No1Viking: dpkg-reconfigure? makes me warm
[05:41] <ifeanyi> I am new to this
[05:41] <ifeanyi> I do not know how to
[05:41] <ifeanyi> I used alsa
[05:42] <ifeanyi> but it will not work
[05:42] <_payrok> ifeanyi ok so open up a terminal
[05:42] <ifeanyi> ok
[05:42] <No1Viking> nickrud, try that command if you have dapper
[05:42] <_payrok> ifeanyi first what is your hardware
[05:42] <ifeanyi> is open
[05:42] <No1Viking> nickrud, cos I did and it does not work
[05:42] <hartym> Frogzoo, yup i found it thx :p
[05:42] <_payrok> ifeanyi and is this a new install?
[05:42] <ifeanyi> yes
[05:42] <No1Viking> nickrud, I better go to +1
[05:42] <ifeanyi> just got  a new laptop
[05:43] <ifeanyi> inspiron E1705
[05:43] <_payrok> ok hold on
[05:43] <ifeanyi> was hard to get wireless
[05:43] <tom_> sorry im kinda knew and forgot how to open apt list
[05:43] <_payrok> going to look that up
[05:43] <ifeanyi> ok am waiting
[05:44] <hartym> ifeanyi, i had hard time on my first laptop geting wireless working too
[05:44] <ifeanyi> yes
[05:44] <ifeanyi> it took me 2weeks
[05:44] <ifeanyi> hardly know anything in linux
[05:44] <ifeanyi> but am  learning
[05:45] <_payrok> do a lspci -v and tell me what that says about a sound card?
[05:45] <amish> What od i need to apt get to intall somethign that plays wmv files
[05:45] <_payrok> that's good
[05:45] <Jhair> amish: mplayer
[05:46] <ifeanyi> it says alot
[05:46] <tom_> can somebody please tell me how to open apt resipratary list
[05:46] <ifeanyi> what do I look out for
[05:46] <amish> amish@Tux:/$ apt-get install mplayer
[05:46] <amish> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:46] <amish> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:46] <gnulinux> Thanks _Jason and Ubotu. Very nice work with easysource
[05:46] <wastrel> ...
[05:46] <_payrok> look for multimedia
[05:46] <chuckyp> amish, close synaptic down then try again
[05:46] <Jhair> amish: that way you can't download only mplayer, but ANY package you want
[05:47] <ifeanyi> ok
[05:47] <chuckyp> amish, you will get that error if synaptic is open and you try to use apt-get
[05:47] <_payrok>  or sound, you may have to scroll back
[05:47] <_jason> gnulinux: I had nothing to do with it, thank Seveas I think :)
[05:47] <amish> whats synaptic?
[05:47] <chuckyp> amish, the gnome package manager or the auto-update  you have one of those open in gnome.
[05:47] <wastrel> sudo amish
[05:47] <chuckyp> amish, ahh yeah sudo apt-get install <package name>
[05:48] <amish> oh of course
[05:48] <ifeanyi> can i send it across it has alot of unknown device
[05:48] <chuckyp> !tell amish about restricted
[05:48] <tom_>  can somebody please tell me how to open apt resipratary list
[05:48] <chuckyp> amish, you can use vlc to play wmv if you don't want to mess with all the codecs.
[05:48] <chuckyp> tom_, /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <amish> I have vlc bit it dosnt play it
[05:48] <Jhair> amish: mplayer is the way to go amish
[05:48] <_payrok> amish if you want an easy way to install alot of apps to make your system more useful, check out ubuntuforums.org and search for automatix
[05:48] <evil_cow> i upgrade to daper drake and now i cant install ati drivers
[05:48] <chuckyp> tom_, so sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list or nano or whatever editor you want to use.
[05:48] <cyros> i think xmms does wmv also, no?
[05:49] <evil_cow> coud someone help me
[05:49] <amish> Ya so how do i shut down the gnome package manager then
[05:49] <_payrok> ifeanyi yeah just a second though
[05:49] <chuckyp> _payrok, why are all you guys hooked on automatix?   isn't it dated to hell?
[05:49] <ifeanyi> ok
[05:49] <wastrel> !automatix
[05:49] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:49] <_jason> amish: vlc doesn't play wmv9, mplayer ftw :)
[05:50] <_payrok> chuck no, it's very up to date
[05:50] <yggdrasil> cant get real player working here.. ir runs but im getting no sound. its controlling the pcm  volume switch ... but no sound
[05:50] <evil_cow> Detection version os X does not detect  'x700'directory
[05:50] <evil_cow> PLS
[05:50] <_payrok> if you look at the bottom of the first post it was updated 4 days ago
[05:50] <chuckyp> amish, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295 is the link for automatix
[05:50] <amish> Ya but how do i shut down this auto update manager?
[05:50] <amish> i used Easy Breezy or asy Ubuntu
[05:50] <evil_cow> PLS help
[05:50] <amish> Easy*
[05:50] <portoport> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:50] <portoport>   libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.7 (= 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1) but 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[05:50] <portoport> E: Broken packages
[05:50] <chuckyp> amish, close the window that says synaptic package manager.
[05:50] <portoport> how do i solve that one?
[05:51] <chuckyp> !tell portoport about paste
[05:51] <Devil^Chat> can same one help me about ubuntu pls
[05:51] <portoport> opps sorry chuckyp
[05:51] <wastrel> yggdrasil:  check out the flash troubleshooting section on the restricted formats wiki page
[05:51] <chuckyp> portoport, sudo apt-get -f install someone check me on that one.
[05:51] <Devil^Chat> i have probrem install opera in ubuntu
[05:51] <cyros> yea i get that error to when i try to apt-get install samba
[05:51] <_payrok> chucky, i just used it a few moments ago, everything is up to date and works very well
[05:51] <chuckyp> Devil^Chat, sudo apt-get install opera
[05:51] <yggdrasil> wastrel audacitys giving me a gripe too..
[05:51] <ifeanyi> payrok am still waiting
[05:51] <HymnToLife> chuckyp> opera is nop in universe I think
[05:51] <portoport> ok chuckyp
[05:51] <chuckyp> _payrok, dunno i'm running dapper so.  Is it a script or something someone wrote?
[05:52] <HymnToLife> nor in any "usual" repo
[05:52] <_payrok> ifea i started a new window and messaged you
[05:52] <chuckyp> HymnToLife, sure it is
[05:52] <HymnToLife> when I tried to install it it was not
[05:52] <ifeanyi> did not see it
[05:52] <amish> chuckyp no such window
[05:52] <HymnToLife> it's been a while, thouh
[05:52] <_payrok> chucky yeah, with a little gui, I don't know if it officially supports dapper though
[05:52] <chuckyp> HymnToLife, maybe not
[05:52] <chuckyp> amish, is it maybe not open then?
[05:52] <Devil^Chat> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[05:52] <Devil^Chat> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:52] <Devil^Chat>   libqt3-mt: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[05:52] <Devil^Chat>              Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[05:52] <Devil^Chat>              Depends: libxrender1 (>= 1:0.9.0.2) but 1:0.9.0-1 is to be installe d
[05:52] <Devil^Chat> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a s olution).
[05:53] <Jhair> hm
[05:53] <chuckyp> !tell Devil^Chat about paste
[05:53] <portoport> chuckyp sudo apt-get -f install <-after that command do i have to install the package again?
[05:53] <_payrok> ifeanyi look for a tab with my name on it at the bottom of your client
[05:53] <cyros> yea im getting the unmet dependencies error also, is that something with the server?
[05:53] <jaro> hi there. I'm having very strange errors after shifting to dapper from breezy (which was shifted from hoary long time ago) - after installing 2.6.15-18 kernel it won't boot complaining about some doma_intr errors on hda (root) (DriveStatusError BadCRC).
[05:53] <amish> Poo
[05:53] <chuckyp> portoport, yeah what I would do is enable universe and multiverse then install the package again
[05:53] <tom_> can someone help me with E: Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[05:53] <tom_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[05:53] <portoport> i did enable universe and multiverse
[05:54] <chuckyp> jaro, dapper discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[05:54] <ifeanyi> i see you
[05:54] <chuckyp> tom_, use sudo apt-get install
[05:54] <cyros> hmm how can i enable universe and multiverse
[05:54] <ifeanyi> and  I sent you a message
[05:54] <chuckyp> tom_, err sudo apt-get update
[05:54] <_payrok> click on that tab
[05:54] <chuckyp> !tell cyros about repos
[05:54] <cosmita> how do I found out how much ram does my voodoo banshee has?
[05:54] <cyros> thanks
[05:54] <ifeanyi> i did
[05:55] <portoport> chuckyp this is what i typed: apt-get install build-essential dpkg-dev fakeroot debhelper libdb4.2-dev libgdbm-dev libldap2-dev libpcre3-dev libmysqlclient10-dev libssl-dev libsasl2-dev postgresql-dev po-debconf dpatch
[05:55] <tom_> i do apt-get update and get E: Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[05:55] <_payrok> ifeanyigo ahead and send me your file
[05:55] <portoport> and i got that error
[05:55] <evil_cow> Detection version os X does not detect  'x700'directory
[05:55] <portoport> the one i pasted
[05:55] <_payrok> ifeanyi but don't just dump it in the channel
[05:55] <ifeanyi> i wont
[05:56] <chuckyp> !tell portoport about repos
[05:56] <tom_> i do apt-get update and get E: Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[05:56] <amish> Also every time i tun apt it come sup with like 10 of these
[05:56] <chuckyp> portoport, that will explain universe and multivers its possible one of the packages you are trying to install is not in normal repos maybe in universe
[05:56] <amish> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:56] <chuckyp> tom_, correct your sources,list file
[05:56] <ifeanyi> am offering you to chat
[05:56] <_payrok> tom_ use sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list      and look at line 55
[05:56] <chuckyp> !tell tom_ about repos
[05:57] <ifeanyi> just accept
[05:57] <_payrok> ifeanyi i haven't seen a request
[05:57] <tom_> chuckyp,thanks
[05:57] <chuckyp> tom_, np
[05:58] <amish> !tell amish about repos
[05:58] <_jason> amish: run 'sudo apt-get update'
[05:58] <amish> Ok ill let it work
[05:59] <ifeanyi> it says you are leaving
[05:59] <rnd_null> x tells me that my nvidia module is 1.0.7174 and that my x module is 1.0.8178 and that because they dont match it wont start gnome with that specific driver support...how do i fix this?
[06:00] <amish> Hmm wlel i coudl use alot of help. Heres the problem. As soon as i had ubuntu my gain rarly worked. and neither did my internet. I figure dout i had a DNS error and was told to turn ipv6 off. I do so and gaim sitll dosnt work, nor can i access google. Yet i still apt get at high speeds
[06:01] <tom_> i recently read an article on digg saying how to make speed 3 times faster on windows , is there a way to do this on linux
[06:01] <chuckyp> amish, how are you connected to the net?
[06:01] <novem> can anyone tell me how to change the background color (behind gnome splash screen) ?
[06:01] <wastrel> yggdrasil:  i don't know anything about audacity sry
[06:01] <amish> DSL
[06:02] <chemaja> novem: i think it's part of gdm
[06:02] <chuckyp> tom_, what article?
[06:02] <wastrel> novem:  you mean the boot up splash screen or the login screen
[06:02] <chuckyp> amish, how are you connected to your dsl?  i.e. router then dsl modem?
[06:02] <tom_> chuckyp,  1 minute
[06:02] <chuckyp> amish, are you using dhcp
[06:02] <novem> no not the user/pass login, gnome bootsplash
[06:02] <amish> I am conneded with a vigor router and i do have DHCP
[06:02] <chuckyp> tom_, also when dapper comes out gnome 2.14 is a lot faster than the version you are running now just fyi.
[06:02] <wastrel> novem search for usplash themes.  i just turned mine off...
[06:03] <kryptograf> how can i enable gnome for new user i have created with useradd?
[06:03] <chuckyp> amish, well is your computer pulling dns servers from the router and putting them in your resolv.conf?
[06:03] <gopi> How to get the latest sources.list please ??
[06:03] <_jason> kryptograf: just login with him
[06:03] <chuckyp> kryptograf, they just log in
[06:03] <tom_> chuckyyp , forgor to add it was internet speed :P
[06:03] <portoport> is ubuntu more like a debian distro?
[06:03] <rnd_null> i need some help....less than one week using linux...
[06:03] <jbroome> than windows?  yes.
[06:03] <novem> wastrel: i have the gnome splash screen manager, it only allows you to change the splash image not the solid background color, i think it might inherit that color from root, i remmember some command like xsetbg or..?
[06:03] <chuckyp> tom_, oh internet speed increase?  well you will find nix is typically faster because you don't have all that quality of service garbage running.
[06:04] <kryptograf> _jason i have tried this, still the session termitates
[06:04] <portoport> and will this website manual works in ubuntu 5.10? http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier
[06:04] <chuckyp> !tell rnd_null about helpme
[06:04] <chuckyp> !helpme
[06:04] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:04] <amish> chuckyp, i honstely dont know, Ive been using ubuntu for a mere 4 days now. The DNS is fine now but still google is a problem
[06:04] <amish> Do you know how i can check this?
[06:04] <tom_> chuckyp , thanks again
[06:04] <rnd_null> chuckyp, x tells me that my nvidia module is 1.0.7174 and that my x module is 1.0.8178 and that because they dont match it wont start gnome with that specific driver support...how do i fix this?
[06:04] <chuckyp> amish, well the dns isn't fine if google isn't working.
[06:04] <wastrel> novem ok this is the gnome loading screen not the boot screen?  yes just change the background color, right-click on the desktop
[06:04] <wastrel> novem:  it's the desktop background prefs
[06:05] <Neter> can anyone say me how to change the language in SquirrelMail?
[06:05] <_jason> kryptograf: I use adduser instead of useradd, and gnome works fine
[06:05] <novem> ahh sorry, thanks, I thought ide already tried that
[06:05] <chuckyp> rnd_null, try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx should resolve a lot of your problems?  did you try to install nvidia binaries from their site or something?
[06:05] <novem> but your right
[06:05] <kryptograf> _jason thank you
[06:05] <cyros> hmm ok i add multiverse trying installing samba and it saying the following packages have unresolvable dependencies...that just has to do with the server right?
[06:05] <cyros> i would have to build from source is i wanna install it now right?
[06:06] <rnd_null> chuckyp, yes, and i tried the other too, but i'll try again i guess, maybe i'll work this time
[06:06] <Neter> there is a menu in the SquirrelMail options, but it not work
[06:06] <amish> chuckyp, i see what you mean
[06:06] <chuckyp> rnd_null, yeah you don't typically need the driver from nvidia just use the one in the repos its known to work.
[06:06] <amish> Any ideas how i can check or fix this?
[06:06] <|mp|> anyone using tor/privoxy in dapper?? there is a problem with missing /var/run/tor dir and missing .pid file - googled no solutions to that..
[06:06] <thegladiator> swiftfox is very fast
[06:07] <chuckyp> amish, cat /etc/resolv.conf  does that list your proper dns servers?
[06:07] <rnd_null> chuckyp, i only tried that one because the synaptic one didn't work
[06:07] <chuckyp> amish, also I have no idea why they had you disable ipv6
[06:07] <sinbox> hhello again
[06:07] <chuckyp> rnd_null, what do you mean didn't work what happened?
[06:07] <sinbox> my syslog says no dhcpoffers received when i try to get onto the network, any idea what it might be?
[06:08] <thomerz> hi, will there be a continuous update-server for dapper like debian-sid, or only new software for 6 months?
[06:08] <HymnToLife> sinbox> obviously you don't have a DHCP server running on your network
[06:08] <amish> i get this
[06:08] <Neter> help me, please
[06:08] <rnd_null> chuckyp, x wont load and sometimes in extreme cases, i have to reset the bios to get any video at all...i think the driver may have a problem supporting pci-e as far as recycling video memory
[06:08] <amish> amish@Tux:/$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[06:08] <amish> domain WORKGROUP
[06:08] <amish> nameserver 10.254.0.1
[06:08] <amish> nameserver 10.254.0.1
[06:08] <Neter> or tell me where to read about this
[06:09] <chuckyp>  rnd_null hrm...
[06:09] <chuckyp> rnd_null, not really quite sure i've never really had issues with the nvidia-glx drivers but i'm agp
[06:09] <portoport>  patch -p1 < ../postfix-2.1.5-trash.patch  <--will this command create a problem with ubuntu? cuz it's almost one minute now the shell prompt is not back
[06:09] <rnd_null> chuckyp, i've noticed that most people are agp
[06:10] <chuckyp> rnd_null, but to remove the version difference you'd have to remove the nvidia-kernel module that nvidia-glx installed then install the binarary drivers from nviida if you wanted to go that route.
[06:10] <rnd_null> chuckyp, thats why i think its a pci-e problem
[06:10] <rnd_null> chuckyp, i'll just try synaptic agian
[06:10] <rnd_null> chuckyp, i'll let you know in a few
[06:10] <amish> I think my router didnt liek the Ip6 so someone told me to diable it. Since IP addresses connected fine the address wouldnt
[06:11] <ifeanyi> hey chuckyp can you help me configure my sound card
[06:11] <rysiek|pl> yell'oh
[06:11] <chuckyp> !helpme
[06:11] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:11] <holobyted> is it possible to make synaptic/update-manager ignore certain packages for updating? (ie, linux kernel)
[06:11] <ifeanyi> ok I used alsaconf
[06:11] <Stormx2> Act! It keeps saying another synaptic/apt-get is running but its not! :(:(
[06:11] <ifeanyi> and this does not seem to work
[06:12] <chuckyp> Stormx2, ps aux | grep synaptic
[06:12] <ifeanyi> am trying to figure what drivers I need
[06:12] <chuckyp> Stormx2, ps aux | grep apt
[06:12] <rob138> !open-source
[06:12] <ubotu> rob138: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:12] <chuckyp> ifeanyi, what card do you have?
[06:12] <ifeanyi> STAC 9200
[06:12] <Stormx2> I get: barney    9930  0.0  0.0   2836   612 pts/0    R+   17:12   0:00 grep synaptic
[06:12] <ifeanyi> sigma Tel
[06:12] <chuckyp> Stormx2, try the grep apt
[06:13] <Stormx2> barney    9940  0.0  0.0   1468   160 pts/0    R+   17:13   0:00 grep apt
[06:13] <chuckyp> Storkme, that one that popped up is just the grep you ran
[06:13] <chuckyp> Stormx2, yeah you don't have one running
[06:13] <Stormx2> chuckyp: So why does it say I have!
[06:13] <Stormx2> Whenever I try to use an apt tool :(
[06:13] <kryptograf> i have installed kadu recently (using apt-get), but i can't find it anywhere in gnome menu (even after gnome restart) - on fedora 3 it worked. If i run it from console it starts, but looks really awful (for example it have no polish letters), do you know why?
[06:13] <chuckyp> Stormx2, dunno what exact error are you getting
[06:13] <sinbox> !helpme  ??  my syslog says no dhcpoffers received when i try to get onto the network, any idea what it might be??
[06:13] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, sinbox
[06:14] <Neter> is there anybody who see what i'm writing
[06:14] <Stormx2> Neter: No
[06:14] <cyros> is there anything i could do about unmet dependencies E: broken packages?
[06:14] <chuckyp> kryptograf, maybe you need a font and maybe it didn't add it to the applications panel.
[06:14] <Neter> hahaha ;)
[06:14] <sinbox> ah oki, I'm trying to get tehe computer to connect to my modem/roputer
[06:14] <chuckyp> Neter, no
[06:14] <Stormx2> chuckyp: I beat you to the joke! bwahahaha!
[06:14] <chuckyp> ifeanyi, you get no sound at all or whats the problem?  and what distro are you using.
[06:14] <ifeanyi> Ubuntu
[06:15] <Neter> and is there anybody who know anything about my problem
[06:15] <chuckyp> ifeanyi, breezy dapper hoary?
[06:15] <ifeanyi> hoary 5.04
[06:15] <kryptograf> chuckyp well, in other gnome apps polish fonts works good
[06:15] <ifeanyi> is  a new one
[06:15] <sinbox> ubotu ah oki, I'm trying to get the computer to connect to my modem/router, it just won't do it
[06:15] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, sinbox
[06:15] <chuckyp> !squirrelmail
[06:15] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp
[06:15] <Stormx2> sinbox: Ubotu is a bot :P
[06:16] <sinbox> great   :(
[06:16] <chuckyp> Neter, i dunno maybe the squirrel mail channel?
[06:16] <sinbox> lol @ myself
[06:16] <chuckyp> Neter, if they have one
[06:16] <Stormx2> sinbox: No worries. What do you want to do? Connect you your router?
[06:16] <Neter> oh, squirrel channel, thanx
[06:16] <Stormx2> sinbox: So you can get internet?
[06:16] <amish> where cna i get these
[06:16] <amish>   mplayer-k6: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[06:16] <amish>               Depends: libsvga1 but it is not installable or
[06:16] <amish>                        svgalib-dummyg1 but it is not installable
[06:16] <chuckyp> kryptograf, i dunno never used kadu or whatever
[06:16] <ifeanyi> so  chuckyp
[06:16] <chuckyp> !tell amish about paste
[06:16] <Stormx2> Don't paste in here, amish
[06:17] <Stormx2> amish: Check the guide on mplayer
[06:17] <Stormx2> !mplayer
[06:17] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:17] <chuckyp> amish, you probably need to enable multiverse and universe
[06:17] <sinbox> yes, I have no idea why it won't work, Stormx2, all the other machines do, but then they just run win2k or win98
[06:17] <maenty> which Bittorrent client is best for KDE?
[06:17] <maenty> I have installed KTorrent but I dont know how can I make it to open the torrent files automatically when I click torrent-link in Firefox
[06:17] <tnerolf> hello everybody
[06:17] <noaXess> bye all.. have a nice weekend..
[06:17] <Stormx2> sinbox: Go to System > Adminstration > Networking
[06:17] <Stormx2> noaXess: You too
[06:17] <kryptograf> has anyone installed kadu sucessully on ubuntu?
[06:17] <chuckyp> maenty, isnt' there a torrent client installed by default?
[06:18] <chuckyp> !anyone
[06:18] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:18] <maenty> chuckyp: not that I know of...
[06:18] <Neter> and what is the name of the squirrel mail channel
[06:18] <ifeanyi> so what do you suggest chuckyp
[06:18] <nickrud> amish, do you have marillat in your sources?
[06:18] <chuckyp> maenty, try clicking on a torrent link
[06:18] <chuckyp> ifeanyi, what is your problem no sound?
[06:18] <ifeanyi> yes
[06:18] <amish> nickrud, no what is it?
[06:18] <Stormx2> kryptograf: Not me. What is kadu?
[06:18] <ifeanyi> at all
[06:18] <cyros> is there anything i could do about unmet dependencies...E: broken packages?
[06:18] <chuckyp> ifeanyi, I would try maybe searching the forums for your card.  Also making sure that its not muted.
[06:18] <ifeanyi> i told you the card i have stac 9200
[06:18] <nickrud> amish, a repository that gives errors similar to those.
[06:18] <sinbox> i did Stormx2,  i enabled eth0  with the dhcp, but am not getting anywhere
[06:19] <chuckyp> ifeanyi, and what tyep of sound are you trying to play?
[06:19] <kryptograf> Stormx2 linux version of popular polish comunicator
[06:19] <maenty> chuckyp: there is the "btdownloadgui" which I installed a moment ago, but that seems to suck
[06:19] <Stormx2> sinbox: Hmm. Can you ping your router?
[06:19] <nickrud> !tell amish about easysource
[06:19] <Stormx2> kryptograf: Ah yes
[06:19] <Stormx2> !kadu
[06:19] <ubotu> Stormx2: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:19] <Stormx2> Hmm
[06:19] <tnerolf> Is Somebody a newbie like me ????????????????????????????????????????????
[06:19] <chuckyp> maenty, i dunno search synaptic for torrent
[06:19] <rnd_null> chuckyp, nope didn't work, i had to redo xorg.conf to get x to start
[06:19] <_jason> kryptograf: there is a wiki page in polish somewhere... let me see
[06:19] <ifeanyi> at least any .,midi file
[06:19] <nickrud> amish, you almost certainly have something wrong in your sources.list, that link will build you a good one
[06:19] <Stormx2> kryptograf: Is it in the repos?
[06:19] <amish> ok thank you
[06:19] <maenty> chuckyp: It opens a separate download window for each torrent.. I would like Firefox just to transfer the torrent to a better bt-client which then could open it
[06:19] <Falstius> maenty: azureus is pretty but also uses a lot of resources.
[06:19] <kryptograf> Stormx2 You have to add ones, that are stated in Wiki
[06:19] <maenty> chuckyp: However, this co-operation seems not to work with KTorrent at least
[06:20] <pretto> hi there
[06:20] <Stormx2> kryptograf: OK, so what problem are you getting?
[06:20] <maenty> Falstius: I didn't find it in repositories
[06:20] <pretto> can anyone help me with ubuntu?
[06:20] <Neter> !squirrelmail
[06:20] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Neter
[06:20] <Falstius> maenty, are you running amd64?
[06:20] <chuckyp> maenty, well you might have to tell firefox to open the file with ktorrent
[06:20] <Stormx2> pretto: Depends whaty you want help with :P
[06:20] <_jason> kryptograf: yeah, is http://www.kadu.net/wiki/index.php/English:Download:Ubuntu not working?
[06:20] <maenty> Falstius: yes
[06:20] <_jason> ubotu: kadu is http://www.kadu.net/wiki/index.php/English:Download:Ubuntu
[06:20] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[06:20] <kryptograf> _jason thnx
[06:20] <maenty> chuckyp: I have told, but it still doesnt work
[06:20] <pretto> I just installed ubuntu on my notebook
[06:21] <maenty> chuckyp: I have chosen "open with" and then chosen KTorrent from there, nothing happends
[06:21] <Falstius> maenty: yeah .. it isn't there for amd64, only 32bit.  I ended up just installing a 32bit chroot environment.
[06:21] <pretto> i sweeped windows XP off to learn linux
[06:21] <ifeanyi> chuckyp ,did you find anything for me
[06:21] <cyros> is there anything i could do about unmet dependencies...E: broken packages?
[06:21] <Falstius> pretto, congrats
[06:21] <Falstius> cyros: did you try "sudo apt-get install -f"
[06:21] <sinbox> Stormx2  nope it doesn't seem to be pinging the router
[06:21] <chuckyp> ifeanyi, you want me to search the forums for you?
[06:21] <pretto> so.. as you can see.. i am an old user of windows systems since dos
[06:22] <cyros> hmm no i didnt, what does that do?
[06:22] <jadams_> can anyone tell me how to cat a file to my clipboard?
[06:22] <slavik> after ubuntu boots, how can I get it to look for a second monitor?
[06:22] <pretto> so i just decided to learn linux with some frustanting tryies
[06:22] <Stormx2> sinbox: Try configuring
[06:22] <chuckyp> jadams_, hrm... highlight the contents of it.
[06:22] <cyros> Falstius: i just did it, nothing
[06:22] <Falstius> cyros: its supposed to find problems in the dependency tree.  That's what apt-get usually suggests you do when you have a broken dependency.
[06:22] <ifeanyi> no  I meant check  up thr card
[06:22] <rnd_null> pretto, what do you need help with?
[06:22] <slavik> Stormx2: was that for me?
[06:22] <amish> nickrud i get even more errror sthan i did before
[06:22] <jadams_> chuckyp: looking for a commandline option
[06:23] <pretto> well.. this time every thing seems to work ok.... i am enjoying the interface of ubuntu
[06:23] <chuckyp> ifeanyi, I was saying maybe search the ubuntu forums for that card or try some of the steps in the wiki for sound trouble shooting.
[06:23] <pretto> but i downloaded some themes that i want to install
[06:23] <pretto> but i coundnt
[06:23] <sinbox> Stormx2  sorry but configuring how or where?  dhcclient.conf?
[06:23] <Stormx2> sinbox: Go to "Static" IP and in the first box, enter any IP you want (e.g. 10.0.0.5), second enter 255.0.0.0 or 255.255.255.0 (whichever works) and in the third, enter your router's IP
[06:23] <nickrud> amish, could you paste your errors & sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:23] <Stormx2> sinbox: Use the networking tool
[06:23] <Stormx2> :P
[06:23] <cyros> Falstius: reading and building Done 0 for everything
[06:23] <rnd_null> pretto, yep, its nice, you couldn't install them? or you couldn't see them?
[06:23] <sinbox> I tried with static Ip and got nowhere either Stormx2
[06:23] <slavik> How can I get ubuntu to look for a second monitor after it booted to desktop?
[06:24] <Stormx2> slavik: No it wasn't
[06:24] <Stormx2> !dualscreen
[06:24] <ubotu> Stormx2: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:24] <pretto> can i open a private chat rnd_null?
[06:24] <Falstius> cyros: what are you trying to do that gives you that problem?
[06:24] <xxenon> what's the maximum file size for a SMB mount ? 2Gb ?
[06:24] <Stormx2> !multiscreen
[06:24] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Stormx2
[06:24] <nickrud> !xinerama
[06:24] <ubotu> xinerama is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[06:24] <Stormx2> slavik: Search the wiki
[06:24] <slavik> !dualmonitor
[06:24] <ubotu> slavik: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:24] <slavik> I tried
[06:24] <amish> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10404
[06:24] <cyros> Falstius: install samba, sudo apt-get samba
[06:24] <cyros> Falstius: install samba, sudo apt-get install samba
[06:24] <amish> shoudl i run sudo apt-get update?
[06:24] <Falstius> cyros: samba should be installed by default ...
[06:24] <Stormx2> slavik: Check the ubuntuforums.org then
[06:25] <rnd_null> pretto, join #rnd_null
[06:25] <nickrud> amish, do apt-get update, as it says second to last line
[06:25] <Stormx2> amish: Why not? ;-)
[06:25] <Falstius> it gives you an unmet dependency error?
[06:25] <cyros> yea
[06:25] <amish> my bad :P
[06:25] <nickrud> :)
[06:25] <wastrel> yay
[06:26] <Falstius> cyros, did you apt-get update?
[06:26] <cyros> yea
[06:26] <Falstius> cyros: well, there does my ideas.
[06:27] <cyros> when i open share folders in system admin, its says "sharing services are not installed and askes to use smb or nfs
[06:27] <chuckyp> jadams_, still looking for an answer
[06:27] <sinbox> Stormx2 I tried with static Ip and got nowhere either 100% loss
[06:27] <polpak> cyros, yes.. In order to share one of your directories you need to install a sharing protocol
[06:27] <ifvoid> hi
[06:27] <cyros> i pick samba and it says could not apply changes Fix broken packages first
[06:28] <wech> ??
[06:28] <jadams_> chuckyp: yeah
[06:28] <polpak> cyros, try doing it manually via synaptic
[06:28] <nickrud> cyros, try sudo apt-get -f install
[06:28] <jadams_> I was googling, can't find it
[06:28] <ifvoid> I'm having some trouble with network-manager and nm-applet in dapper
[06:28] <ifvoid> it says: ** (nm-applet:28182): WARNING **: <WARNING>       (): nmwa_dbus_init() could not acquire its service.  dbus_bus_acquire_service() says: 'Connection ":1.5" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" due to security policies in the configuration file'
[06:28] <amish> Also in my grub menu i have about 8 different options, 6 linux ones and 2 Windows XP Professional ones, 1 of which dosnt work. How cna i get rid of the ones i dont need
[06:28] <chuckyp> jadams_, yeah i'm googling too.
[06:28] <Stormx2> cyros: Have you checked the wiki?
[06:28] <Stormx2> !samba
[06:28] <ubotu> well, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:28] <jadams_> chuckyp: all I need is a shell input into the gnome clipboard or xclipboard
[06:29] <jadams_> but xclipboard itself tries to run a new instance (I tried cat foo | xclipboard first)
[06:29] <Spliffster> high folks. how is inetd started/stopped on ubuntu, i cant find scripts in /etc/init.d .... this dapper flight 4
[06:29] <nickrud> amish, try removing the kernels you don't want, then run sudo grub-update
[06:29] <Spliffster> correction flight 5 now
[06:29] <Spliffster> test pffff ... 1. ... 2 .... 3 ..... is there anybody out ... problems or is it just tha quiet ?
[06:29] <opter> Hi everyone.
[06:29] <Blippe> hi there opter
[06:29] <amish> nicred, how do i remove the kernels?
[06:29] <chuckyp> jadams_, yeah are you using kde?
[06:30] <jadams_> chuckyp: gnome
[06:30] <chuckyp> jadams_, well I found a shell script to do it with kde and klip
[06:30] <termitor> hello ubuntu, i love you :-) from france
[06:30] <cyros> Stormx2: yea i cant get past the install part lol
[06:30] <jadams_> aww
[06:30] <nickrud> amish, in synaptic
[06:30] <chuckyp> jadams_, http://72.14.203.104/linux?q=cache:oZSf59YMWdcJ:www.linuxgazette.com/node/9047+copying+to+clipboard&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5  let me keep looking though
[06:30] <G0SUB> cafuego: ping
[06:30] <sinbox> !loadsamoney
[06:30] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sinbox
[06:30] <polpak> Spliffster, have you actually installed inetd ?
[06:30] <chuckyp> G0SUB, pong
[06:30] <nadjyla> hello
[06:31] <G0SUB> chuckyp: heh, my packet got routed to some other box ?
[06:31] <Stormx2> cyros: try re-create your sources.list.
[06:31] <Stormx2> !tell cyros about easysource
[06:31] <wech> french ?
[06:31] <chuckyp> jadams_, yeah I dunno  maybe adapt that link to xclipboard if it will handle the arguments.
[06:31] <amish> okies
[06:31] <polpak> !fr
[06:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:31] <termitor> wech, yes !
[06:32] <wech> ok ubuntu fr !
[06:32] <wech> bye
[06:32] <wech> thanks
[06:32] <jadams_> chuckyp: cool...I'd be able to do it if I just knew how to use xclipboard
[06:32] <Spliffster> polpak: i just found out that it wasn't ... thanx. i expected it to be there like in any other distor and since /etc/inetd.conf was present i idin't bother to check
[06:32] <jadams_> but the man helps me none in adding things to the clipboard
[06:32] <nickrud> amish, type uname -r in a terminal, that's the one thats currently running, and the one you want to keep
[06:32] <raboof-> so if glxgears shows gears that means opengl accelleration works? or is it not that simple?
[06:32] <polpak> Spliffster, ubuntu doesn't install any daemons that listen to the outside world by default
[06:33] <polpak> Spliffster, it makes it easier security wise.. It's intended to be more of a workstation distro
[06:33] <Spliffster> polpak: makes absolutely sense on a desktop ... was just a bit unexpected for me
[06:33] <rob138> hi, i just installed kde-core, booted into kde to try it out, went back to gnome, and now none of my panels in gnome load, they say a panel is already running... whats wrong?
[06:33] <HappyFool> raboof-: glxinfo|grep direct should print out this: direct rendering: Yes
[06:34] <GTX> Whats the command to open the remote desktop vnc thing built into ubuntu
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> GTX,  I tend to ssh in and run 'vncserver' manually
[06:34] <amish> also Mplayer crashe don me somehow
[06:35] <amish> cna i cant get rid of it
[06:35] <GTX> Dr_Willis, na theres a built in one which works well
[06:35] <raboof-> HappyFool, hmm, unfortunately it doesnt say anything about direct rendering ;~)
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> if you are allreayd logged into gnome - you can start  shareiing the current desktop with vino (i think) or in the menus
[06:35] <HappyFool> raboof-: what video card do you have?
[06:35] <nickrud> rob138, I've run into that; open system->prefs->Sessions, and look through current session ; see if there are two gnome-panels listed
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> GTX,  i did NOT find the built in one - 'worked well' it was nasty slow.
[06:36] <rob138> nickrud, at the login screen?
[06:36] <chuckyp> Dr_Willis, you should be able to share it if you are already logged in.
[06:36] <raboof-> HappyFool, I think its an ATI 128
[06:36] <cyros> Stormx2: so this Source list gen the first two are official like what would come with the fresh install?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> chuckyp,  i did - and it was much slower then a real 'vncserver' session i found.
[06:36] <GTX> Whats the command to open the remote desktop vnc thing built into ubuntu
[06:36] <Stormx2> cyros: Yeah
[06:36] <nickrud> rob138, or, clt-alt-f1 , log in, and type killall gnome-panel
[06:36] <chuckyp> GTX, vnclient or something like that?
[06:36] <_jason> amish: killall mplayer
[06:37] <GTX> grr chuckyp
[06:37] <HappyFool> raboof-: have you read the ATI page on the ubuntu wiki ?
[06:37] <GTX> the server one
[06:37] <GTX> pffft
[06:37] <raboof-> HappyFool, no, not yet, ill try to find them
[06:37] <HappyFool> !tell raboof- about ati
[06:37] <amish> _jason, no process killed even though i can see its still up and running
[06:38] <_jason> amish: killall gmplayer
[06:38] <thefish> GTX: you want to be able to log in to the ubuntu box?
[06:38] <thefish> or you want to log in to another box from ubuntu?
[06:38] <GTX> thefish, I want to let someone else see my desktop thefish
[06:38] <GTX> But Its not the menu where it should be
[06:38] <chuckyp> GTX, dpkg -l vnc
[06:38] <GTX> so I need the command line for it
[06:38] <thefish> GTX: open a console and type "vncserver :1"
[06:38] <cyros> Stormx2: i checked both update and security and both packages and sources and for the country code US ??
[06:38] <GTX> I dont have vncserver
[06:39] <thefish> right
[06:39] <rob138> nickrud, thanks
[06:39] <svu> anyone knows who maintains gnome-applets in ubuntu?
[06:39] <nickrud> rob138, yw happened to me yesterday for some reason
[06:39] <obli> !mouse
[06:39] <ubotu> mouse is, like, Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[06:39] <thefish> GTX: install it?
[06:39] <amish> nope
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> GTX,  try 'vino'
[06:39] <thefish> good luck
[06:39] <Grark> Hi Everybody!
[06:40] <Grark> :P
[06:40] <boss_in_action> hi aal
[06:40] <Blippe> is it possible to install ubuntu to a nfs-drive?
[06:40] <opter> HI!
[06:40] <Grark> I come asking for help so much, thought I'd just pop in and say hellop
[06:40] <_jason> amish: ps aux | grep mplayer, what turns up?
[06:40] <smo> Blippe, if the install CD won't do it, debootstrap will install ubuntu to just about anything you can mount
[06:41] <tahooie> I have a gefore6200 with two video outs, and want to do dual monitors. I've found docs on using twinview, and Xinorama, does anyone know which approach is the most painless?
[06:41] <cyros> Stormx2: i checked both update and security and both packages and sources and for the country code US ?? good?
[06:41] <amish> ubotu chuckyp wants you to know: Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:41] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, amish
[06:41] <chuckyp> tahooie, just folllow the wiki for twinview
[06:41] <chuckyp> !tell tahooie about twinview
[06:41] <Grark> Oh man
[06:41] <Blippe> smo, i feared that would be the answer... no change for dapper? :] 
[06:41] <Grark> my problem is back
[06:41] <Grark> apps "disappearing"
[06:41] <chuckyp> amish, yeah use that site to paste terminal data rather than flooding the channel
[06:42] <Grark> :(
[06:42] <Grark> Now it's firefox
[06:42] <amish> ya sorry
[06:42] <cyros> Stormx2: u did it man !! it looks like its gonna work now, your the man now dog http://www.yourethemannowdog.com
[06:42] <Grark> Nevermind
[06:42] <chuckyp> Grark, what do you mean apps disapearing?
[06:42] <Grark> chuckyp, my bad.
[06:42] <smo> Blippe: I'm not that uptodate with dapper.  just happen to use debootstrap on a regular basis
[06:42] <Grark> it was in another virtual space.
[06:42] <amish> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10406
[06:42] <Grark> HAHAH!
[06:43] <_jason> amish: killall -9 mplayer
[06:43] <_jason> amish: oops make that gmplayer :)
[06:43] <amish> thankyou
[06:43] <sas171> Hi, I installed Cairo engine and Cairo-GTK-Clearlooks as written in the forum, but as I try to use Cairo-enabled-theme im geting unthemed desktop, any ideas?
[06:43] <amish> may i ask what the -9 was for?
[06:43] <tahooie> chuckyp, was a bot supposed to message me the link to that wiki?
[06:43] <chuckyp> tahooie, yeah
[06:44] <Blippe> smo, i was hoping not to have to create a custom kernel, i guess no such luck... :D thansk for the answers!
[06:44] <[A] ndy80> I modified my /etc/profile adding some EXPORT=..... how can I "reload" the profile without having to reboot my system?
[06:44] <yggdrasil> anyone else here runnign a dell c400
[06:44] <chuckyp> tahooie, hold up let me find it for ya
[06:44] <tahooie> thanks
[06:44] <_jason> amish: sends a KILL signal.  'man kill'
[06:44] <nickrud> amish, to kill with extreme prejudice, don't wait for nothing
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> . /etc/profile
[06:44] <raboof-> HappyFool, looks like that is about the Radeon models, and I have a Rage instead
[06:44] <slava_> 
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> or is it  'source /etc/profile'
[06:44] <HappyFool> [A] ndy80: how about logging out and in? (can't remember under what precise conditions /etc/profile is read)
[06:45] <portoport> what are the common letter code of any USA countries or states?
[06:45] <amish> ok
[06:45] <_jason> amish: yeah kill -9 is a last resort
[06:45] <amish> okies
[06:45] <g0dchild> how do i make a windows machine on the network to get access to the internet through a gateway on which ubuntu is installed?
[06:45] <HappyFool> raboof-: hmm. i'm not a graphics expert, sorry
[06:45] <chuckyp> tahooie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaTVOut
[06:45] <tahooie> thanks chuckyp
[06:45] <_jason> Dr_Willis: equivalent
[06:45] <raboof-> HappyFool, ok, thanks for the help nonetheless
[06:46] <amish> so i run this command wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb but it does it stuff but the last line is Permission Deined
[06:47] <jadams_> does anyone know where a good howto is for upgrading breezy to gnome 2.14, or has anyoen done it?
[06:47] <_jason> amish: put exactly what you did and what the output was on pastebin please
[06:47] <jadams_> I can't afford any pain at this point, as I'm mid-startup...
[06:47] <Blippe> jadams_ i would wait for the final dapper, it is so close...
[06:47] <portoport> i have added many deb lines in my sources.list but still i cant find any installer for unarj
[06:48] <wastrel> arj
[06:48] <suporte> daeee galera
[06:48] <wastrel> arj is in universe
[06:48] <amish> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10407
[06:48] <jadams_> Blippie: another full month!
[06:48] <suporte> dai cara
[06:48] <wastrel> 2 months
[06:49] <portoport> wastrel unarj
[06:49] <michal_> cze wam
[06:49] <HappyFool> portoport: how about the plain old arj package?
[06:49] <michal_> po poolsku kto gada?
[06:49] <_jason> amish: 'cd' and try again.  You don't have permission in /
[06:49] <GTX> Whats the command to open the remote desktop vnc thing built into ubuntu
[06:49] <wastrel> !pl
[06:49] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[06:50] <portoport> ok done install arj and unarj
[06:50] <portoport> thanks
[06:50] <amish> thank you
[06:50] <amish> again
[06:50] <amish> i got a feeeling ill be spending a lot of time in here
[06:51] <chuckyp> amish, did you figure it out?
[06:51] <jadams_> GTX: rdesktop?
[06:51] <amish> figure what out?
[06:52] <chuckyp> amish, your problem?  with dns?
[06:52] <GTX> jadams_, Im looking for the program, its normaly in System -> Administration -> Remote Desktop ( I think ) can you get the link to what it uses please
[06:52] <chuckyp> GTX, yeah hold up
[06:52] <Gambit-> anyone know how to resolve "java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no Serial in java.library.path"?
[06:53] <jadams_> GTX: I just told you... rdesktop
[06:53] <opter> GTX: do you mean Terminal Server Client?
[06:53] <GTX> No opter
[06:53] <jadams_> oh
[06:53] <jadams_> heh...not rdesktop
[06:53] <GTX> jadams_, it doesnt launch the gui..
[06:53] <amish> Chuckyp nope google still not workign and internet seems to still be slow a bit but only on browsing
[06:54] <jadams_> GTX: it's in System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop, btw, not Administration
[06:54] <Spliffster> hmmm, after installing inetd i started it. starting failed without an error message, i have no log file ... any hint ?
[06:54] <chuckyp> GTX, vino-server
[06:54] <g0dchild> Guys, so how do i get a windows machine to access the internet through an ubuntu gateway?
[06:54] <jadams_> but that's jsut the config for it
[06:54] <jadams_> the app is in Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Services Client
[06:54] <jadams_> err, Server
[06:54] <HymnToLife> g0dchild> search the wiki for Internet COnnection Sharing
[06:55] <opter> or tsclient
[06:55] <GTX> charlie@host-82-136-48-134:/usr/share/applications$ vino-server
[06:55] <GTX> bash: vino-server: command not found
[06:55] <GTX> charlie@host-82-136-48-134:/usr/share/applications$
[06:55] <GTX> chuckyp,
[06:55] <wastrel> g0dchild:  you're going to need to set up NAT on the gateway device.  i've never done it, so don't ask me how - check ubuntu forums mebby.
[06:55] <GTX> ^
[06:55] <jadams_> GTX: tsclient
[06:55] <chuckyp> GTX, the system>preferences>remote desktop is running vino-server thats what you asked
[06:55] <wastrel> g0dchild:  maybe search for connection sharing.
[06:55] <GTX> chuckyp, Im not running gnome
[06:55] <chuckyp> GTX, ahhh
[06:55] <jadams_> aha
[06:55] <GTX> jadams_, not terminal server client im trying to host the server jesus
[06:55] <chuckyp> lol
[06:55] <pl> hi@all
[06:55] <opter> hi pl
[06:56] <Spliffster> aaaaahhhhhhh i really love the new log viewer in gnome, it rocks!
[06:56] <GTX> chuckyp, when I type vino-server in command it does ntohing
[06:56] <Grark> Ok got another question.  Is there a graphical app that will handle multi-part rar's?
[06:56] <chuckyp> GTX, thats what gnome is launhing but you said you are not using gnome.
[06:56] <pl> Have anyone expirience in Xgl with ATI Graphics?
[06:56] <amish> apt-get cache messenger i get E: Invalid operation cache
[06:57] <Spliffster> help anyone ? i have installed inetd, started it ... it failed with no error message. there is no inetd log file and no message to syslog
[06:57] <yggdrasil> hey guys
[06:57] <chuckyp> GTX, vino-preferences maybe
[06:57] <Grark> Or anyone know how to add a command to be able to be accessed globally?
[06:57] <g0dchild> alright, wastrel i'll try
[06:57] <jadams_> GTX: then I'll shup
[06:57] <chuckyp> GTX, the only things running when I click on that are vino-preferences and vino-server
[06:57] <wastrel> g0dchild:  the first google result for "connection sharing ubuntu" looks promising
[06:58] <GTX> I found it
[06:58] <amish> apt-get cache messenger i get E: Invalid operation cache ideas?
[06:58] <GTX> /usr/bin/vino-server
[06:58] <GTX> /usr/bin/vino-preferences
[06:58] <GTX> etc
[06:58] <_jason> Grark: your first question: rar command, example: rar x file1.rar (or whatever the first part is called)
[06:58] <wastrel> Grark:  i'm not sure what you mean, add what sort of command?
[06:58] <pl> Have anyone expirience in Xgl with ATI Graphics?
[06:58] <chuckyp> wastrel, you expect someone to search the internet?  pffft
[06:58] <wastrel> !xgl
[06:58] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:58] <Spliffster> has anyone in here found a decent gtk(++/2) cvs client or a nautilus plugin (which would be best for me) ?
[06:59] <yggdrasil> im having a problem with my 82811ca/cam ac'97 audio controller rev02 on my dell c400 laptop.. it works but then it stops working and i cant seem to get any pcm audio out of it..
[06:59] <yggdrasil> is ther alsaconf in  ubuntu?
[06:59] <chuckyp> yggdrasil, yesh alsaconfig alsamixer etc...
[06:59] <chuckyp> yggdrasil, alsactl
[06:59] <Grark> _jason, wastrel, I downloaded winrar for linux....if I put it in the \etc dir, will I be able to execute it from my home dir?
[07:00] <_jason> Grark: put it somewhere in your path.  /usr/local/bin is a good choice imo
[07:00] <opter> if the /etc is in your path
[07:00] <Grark> _jason, I was hoping for a gui, but command line is good.
[07:00] <zercosz> Hi
[07:00] <Grark> _jason, "in my path?"
[07:00] <wastrel> executables don't belong in /etc   yeah /usr/local/bin  normally
[07:00] <yggdrasil> chukkyp im getting a cmd not found when i run alsaconfi
[07:00] <pl> I've tried it with 3 manuals from the german ubuntu forum, but it doesn't work! When I start the Xgl it comes up, but it stays black und the  mouse icon is "busy" -> anyone an idea?
[07:00] <_jason> Grark: when you type in a command, bash looks in the folders in your PATH.  You can see the value of PATH with 'echo $PATH'
[07:01] <chuckyp> yggdrasil, yeah i'm sorry thats not there i'm in dapper though but there is alsamixer
[07:01] <chuckyp> yggdrasil, try type alsa and hitting tab twice see what your optoins are
[07:01] <Grark> ok I'll put it in/usr/local/bin
[07:01] <Grark> thanks!
[07:02] <wastrel> Grark:  /etc is mostly for config files
[07:02] <amish> _jason, apt-get cache messenger i get E: Invalid operation cache ideas?
[07:02] <pl> cya
[07:02] <yggdrasil> wow that wierd tab tab ?
[07:02] <_jason> amish: what are you trying to do?
[07:02] <Grark> Any Howto that explains linux file structures?
[07:03] <Grark> so a noobie and understand?
[07:03] <chuckyp> yggdrasil, tab auto completes.  i.e if you type cd /ho  and hit tab it will type in /home for you.
[07:03] <amish> my friend said that cache search for all the avalible packages
[07:03] <chuckyp> Grark, check on tldp
[07:03] <chuckyp> Grark, www.tldp.org
[07:03] <_jason> amish: apt-cache search packagename
[07:03] <amish> ohhh ok
[07:03] <Grark> Will do, thank you
[07:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell Grark about dirs
[07:04] <yggdrasil> well i odnt know it sseems like the drivers not working
[07:04] <yggdrasil> it works fine
[07:04] <pppoe_dude> can people on windows computers view postscript files without installing anything?
[07:04] <gnomefreak> amish: apt-cache search messenger
[07:04] <yggdrasil> on boot then it wont work when i start up anyting that tries to use pcm...
[07:04] <Grark> _jason, thanks again.
[07:05] <nickrud> pppoe_dude, I needed to get gsview to see postscript
[07:05] <Grark> one last stupid question that will make reading in a terminal easier....what' the command to put in PAUSES?
[07:05] <Grark> at the end of every page?
[07:05] <pppoe_dude> nickrud, do you know if acrobat reader can view postscript?
[07:05] <yggdrasil> grark | more
[07:05] <timoy> hello...
[07:05] <wastrel> Grark:  use less , it's a pager
[07:05] <chuckyp> Grark, well there is | less  or you use | more os it pauses.
[07:05] <Grark> wastrel, ?
[07:06] <_jason> Grark: put '| more', or '| less' after the command
[07:06] <Grark> less is more?
[07:06] <Grark> :P
[07:06] <chuckyp> Grark, no
[07:06] <nickrud> pppoe_dude, I don't remember precisely, but I probably wouldn't have gotten gsview if it does.
[07:06] <wastrel> less is better than more
[07:06] <yggdrasil> i like more
[07:06] <gnomefreak> more is more than less
[07:06] <yggdrasil> its simple
[07:06] <pppoe_dude> nickrud, ok thanks
[07:06] <_jason> and then there is most...
[07:06] <chuckyp> Grark, i.e. cat blah.txt | more    then it will pause at the end of every page
[07:06] <yggdrasil> oh god
[07:06] <opter> Hi lain34!!!
[07:06] <Grark> Perfect!  Now if you'll all excuse me I can finally READ when I get help on commands ;P
[07:07] <chuckyp> Grark, less is the opposite of more
[07:07] <wastrel> chuckyp:  cat foo.txt | cat | cat | cat | less
[07:07] <al> canal
[07:07] <chuckyp> Grark, man less to read the help file or man more to see the documentation.  but definately check out tldp.org lot of good docs there.
[07:08] <cK-gLocK> i need abit of help
[07:08] <cK-gLocK> its a bit of a complex question
[07:08] <_jason> cK-gLocK: just ask :)
[07:08] <gnomefreak> cK-gLocK: ask it if someone knows they will try to help
[07:08] <Grark> truth be told, I like the human touch to point me in the right direction.  Once there I can figure it out most times.
[07:08] <cK-gLocK> k now listen i have 3 partitions 1 with xp 32bit, 64bit and ubuntu 5.10
[07:08] <cK-gLocK> i want to delete my old 32bit partition
[07:08] <chuckyp> Grark, some of the best things to learn are apropos and man -k  so you can find commands for what you want. i.e. apropos format  would print out a list of commands with short descriptions.
[07:08] <cK-gLocK> and keep 64bit windows and ubuntu
[07:08] <_jason> cK-gLocK: keep it on one line or else it will get hard to follow
[07:09] <cK-gLocK> k sorry lol
[07:09] <Grark> It's one of the reasons I decided to switch full time to linux.  The Help you guys give.
[07:09] <cK-gLocK> but yea
[07:09] <cK-gLocK> im planning on deleteing my 32bit partition right
[07:09] <gnomefreak> gparted can delete a partition
[07:09] <chuckyp> Grark, and remember you can scroll back in terminal with page up key.
[07:09] <wastrel> shift-pageup
[07:09] <cK-gLocK> and keep 64bit and im gonna upgrade to ubuntu dapper drake flight 5
[07:09] <wastrel> sometimes
[07:09] <Grark> chuckyp, I know I can scroll, but it still makes it a lot easier to read with the one page at a time piep
[07:10] <cK-gLocK> i wantto split my hd into like 2
[07:10] <cK-gLocK> its a 250gb drive
[07:10] <cK-gLocK> i want atleast 120gb each partition
[07:10] <chuckyp> cK-gLocK, okay which partition has the mbr?
[07:10] <chuckyp> cK-gLocK, or which partition did you install first?
[07:10] <cK-gLocK> i installed 32bit xp first
[07:10] <cK-gLocK> then i got 64bit xp dualbooted
[07:10] <chuckyp> cK-gLocK, and do you care abouttht edata?
[07:10] <cK-gLocK> later on i got linux
[07:10] <ohoel> does anyone know of an application that can make a png/jpg of the first page of *.pdf
[07:10] <cK-gLocK> well thats why im copying it over
[07:10] <_jason> ohoel: gimp
[07:11] <ohoel> _jason: as a batch operation?
[07:11] <cK-gLocK> im in windows now using a reiserfs system driver in windows to get my stuff
[07:11] <cK-gLocK> and put it on my warez drive
[07:11] <portoport> mail postfix/smtpd[19707] : fatal: parameter "smtpd_recipient_restrictions": specify at least one working instance of: check_relay_domains, reject_unauth_destination, reject, defer or defer_if_permit
[07:11] <cK-gLocK> then im gonna move on with everything
[07:11] <portoport> how do i solve that one?
[07:11] <wastrel> gimp has a scripting interface, but i've never used it :] 
[07:11] <chuckyp> cK-gLocK, well you could just delete the 32bit windows then install dapper on the third partition and hopefully grub will pick up the windows 64bit and the hoary install.
[07:11] <cK-gLocK> but i want to make sure i dont mess my 64bit xp up
[07:11] <_jason> ohoel: hrmm don't know... probably since you can script stuff in gimp
[07:11] <portoport> does the mail server have to be registered dmain?
[07:11] <h36sa> hi.. I was removing services from /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rcS.d and after I rebooted, I got X errors about my mouse being missing.. so I check and notice that udev doesn't seem to be working. the udev entry is still in /etc/rcS.d ... I restart udev, restart gdm and now everything is fine.. what should I check?
[07:11] <cK-gLocK> yea cuz im taking the hoary off
[07:11] <cK-gLocK> and im just gonna go flight5 dapper
[07:11] <Frogzoo> portoport: if you want to receive net mail, yes
[07:11] <cK-gLocK> u can play q4 in dapper right?
[07:11] <ohoel> _jason: thanks, I'll try.. hope there's a python interface ;)
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> games work fine right
[07:12] <h36sa> chuckyp, don't recommend x64 windows to people
[07:12] <h36sa> it's pretty awful
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> lol
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> i like it
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> its nice for me
[07:12] <chuckyp> cK-gLocK, oh well then just delete what ever partitions you want to delete as long as you don't touch the xp partition that you want to keep you won't have a problem.
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> but windows still sucks
[07:12] <ohoel> cK-gLocK: yes, you can play games in dapper
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> k cool
[07:12] <wastrel> ohoel:  i think it's scheme
[07:12] <Grark> Hmm...ok so where would I be able to modify the $PATH
[07:12] <Grark> ?
[07:12] <ohoel> wastrel: scheme?
[07:12] <chuckyp> cK-gLocK, yeah I'm pretty sure quake is released for linux and windows side by side.
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> i want to get rid of my 25gb ubuntu 5.10 and basically format that space get rid of the partition.
[07:12] <wastrel> ohoel:  the script language for gimp
[07:13] <cK-gLocK> partition
[07:13] <ohoel> wastrel: oh no ;/
[07:13] <cK-gLocK> and just split the drives in half 120gb 120gb
[07:13] <_jason> wastrel: it has python too I think
[07:13] <cK-gLocK> should i use the partitioner while installing the new ubuntu dpaper drake?
[07:13] <cK-gLocK> or should i do it while im in windows
[07:13] <wastrel> k.  native is scheme, i imagine there's plugins for others :] 
[07:13] <slew> Hi. can anyone tell me how to get DRI enabled?
[07:13] <cK-gLocK> gparted is in ubuntu?
[07:13] <Blippe> cK-gLocK in the installer
[07:13] <cK-gLocK> oh ok nice
[07:13] <wastrel> slew:  nvidia or ati
[07:13] <cK-gLocK> k well just lemem copy my stuff over whatever i need/want
[07:14] <slew> wastrel, nvidia
[07:14] <cK-gLocK> and imma move on with the mission
[07:14] <chuckyp> cK-gLocK, yeah back up everything you are worried about.
[07:14] <Blippe> cK-gLocK dapper discussions go in #ubuntu+1
[07:14] <wastrel> !tell slew about nvidia
[07:14] <amish> un my grub menu.lst file if i delete some optionw will it mess up my loader
[07:14] <slew> wastrel, i've already done those pages, and it still tells me dri is not enabled
[07:15] <wastrel> wellsir i can't help you then, i've got ati :] 
[07:15] <amish> in*
[07:15] <amish> I have 2 window XP's 1 whcih dosnt work cna i remve the 5 or 6 lines
[07:15] <chuckyp> cK-gLocK, what is quake 4 the newest quake they have a linux demo out you could try on hoary if you are not sure.
[07:15] <vgx> oi
[07:15] <_jason> ohoel: the convert command may work too but you will have to do some more research to verify that.  But if it does it may be easier to do what you are trying
[07:16] <Tiberian> Guys, how can i "su" ? i type in term. mode "su" but i get an error
[07:16] <cK-gLocK> i got the full game
[07:16] <thegladiator> sudo
[07:16] <cK-gLocK> i set it up in ubuntu 5.10 but i got it working np
[07:16] <thegladiator> sudo -u
[07:16] <cK-gLocK> shouldnt be hard in dapper
[07:16] <Tiberian> uh Dozo :D
[07:16] <slew> wastrel, thanks.
[07:16] <thegladiator> sudo -i
[07:16] <cyros> thanks guys
[07:16] <chuckyp> amish, just back up your old menu.1st incase i.e. cp /boot/grub/menu.1st /boot/grub/menu.1st.old or something
[07:16] <thegladiator> Tiberian, sudo -i
[07:16] <chuckyp> cK-gLocK, no shouldn't be any different
[07:16] <h36sa> hmmm... could anyone paste a relatively default breezy /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rcS.d list of symlinks to me
[07:17] <ohoel> _jason: that's provided by imagemagick isn't it? thanks mate
[07:17] <yancheng> hi, anyone had experience with setting cvs server here?
[07:17] <h36sa> I just need to see which ones were there :) looks like evms was probably required
[07:17] <amish> Ya but if i mess it up. How can i get it back
[07:17] <_jason> ohoel: yeah
[07:17] <Grark> _jason, where can I specifiy the $path?
[07:17] <Tiberian> thegladiator, thanks :)
[07:17] <chuckyp> amish, worst case boot off of a cd mount the drive and overwrite the original with the backup then restart.
[07:17] <timoy> guys, im trying to create my own livecd using the steps found in the wiki... what i wan't to do is to remove some packages to make the iso smaller.... but how?
[07:17] <_jason> for whom
[07:17] <_jason> Grark: for whom?
[07:17] <thegladiator> yw
[07:18] <Grark> _jason, for whom?
[07:18] <chuckyp> timoy, what wiki?
[07:18] <rinke> Hee
[07:18] <Grark> _jason, I need to add a dir to the PATH
[07:18] <_jason> Grark: your user, everyone?
[07:18] <Grark> Ahh sorry
[07:18] <timoy> in the ubuntu wiki... the livecdcustomizationhowto
[07:18] <Grark> _jason, need to remember this is linux and secure....for everyone.
[07:18] <amish> chuckyp, true
[07:19] <Grark> but I'd settle just for me right now since I'm the only user on here.
[07:19] <_jason> Grark: it gets set in /etc/login.defs, you can add something there.
[07:19] <Grark> does this mean I have to logout and in again?
[07:19] <_jason> Grark: do you want this to be permanent?
[07:19] <Grark> _jason, yes
[07:20] <Tiberian> and how can i see the processes of a User ? ( ps -u [username]  ? )
[07:20] <amish> chuckyp, do i need memtest 86+ or my kernels recovery console?
[07:20] <timoy> chuckyp, im following the "livecdcustomizationhowto" found in the ubuntu wiki.
[07:21] <NsOmNiAc> Tiberian you can ps aux | grep usernamej
[07:21] <_jason> Grark: ok setting it there will only add it in gnome.  Not if you login to a tty, that gets set in /etc/profile.  You can use the command 'export PATH = $PATH:/new/directory' to add a directory to your path in your current terminal and everything it spawns
[07:21] <robinl1> I use GDM, what can i use as xinitrc?
[07:22] <Tiberian> NsOmNiAc, ty :)
[07:22] <NsOmNiAc> np
[07:23] <Grark> Very cool.
[07:23] <amish> ??
[07:23] <Grark> Thank you.
[07:23] <PuppiesOnAcid> Is it possible to put songs on my iPod shuffle through Rhythm box?
[07:23] <Stormx2> !ipod
[07:23] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[07:23] <Stormx2> No
[07:23] <chuckyp> robin_, .gnomerc?
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> not yet
[07:23] <Stormx2> apparently
[07:23] <Stormx2> :P
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> PuppiesOnAcid:  check the bugs.gnome.org bugzilla and file for Rhythmbox
[07:24] <chuckyp> Stormx2, you not making the jump?
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> they're little interested in doing such a thing, I think it's important that the same console used for management of the music collection be used for the ipod
[07:24] <ubersolid> should i download dapper now, or wait for the release? :)
[07:24] <wastrel> ubersolid:  are you an experienced linux user?
[07:25] <Falstius> ubersolid: do it now, install XGL, and fix it so that when I install dapper I don't have to suffer :)
[07:25] <Stormx2> chuckyp: Hmm?
[07:25] <amish> Do i need a memtest in my grub menu?
[07:25] <ubersolid> wastrel: I like to think so
[07:25] <h36sa> PuppiesOnAcid, amaroK and gtkpod both work well
[07:25] <wastrel> ubersolid:  if you're comfortable running the unstable pre-release go ahead.  :] 
[07:25] <Stormx2> ubersolid: Your choice, but you gotta except some breakage
[07:26] <wastrel> amish:  best to keep it in there
[07:26] <amish> hmm ok
[07:26] <chuckyp> Stormx2, jump to dapper
[07:26] <Stormx2> chuckyp: Thinking about it...
[07:26] <chuckyp> amish, Its up to you.  I removed mine don't plan on my memory dying any time soon.
[07:26] <ubersolid> wastrel: what kind of breakage? i need my multimedia experience to work :)
[07:27] <amish> chucky is it for ram memory or harddrive memory?
[07:27] <wastrel> an update broke gnome pretty good a couple weeks ago
[07:27] <chuckyp> ubersolid, it could break at anytime.
[07:27] <h36sa> amish, ram
[07:27] <wastrel> ati dri stuff has been troublesome
[07:27] <amish> i guess i probably wont need it
[07:27] <h36sa> amish, and most *nix livecds have a memtest option.. might as well take it out
[07:27] <youBun2> hi folks
[07:27] <jach> update to dapper from breezy howto?
[07:28] <youBun2> i'm not sure if any of you had read my post on the forum
[07:28] <chuckyp> I think the memtest is a stupid option.  How often does memory go bad and why can't you just use a live cd and test it.  Pretty dumb in my eyes.
[07:28] <rysiek|pl> hello you all
[07:28] <chuckyp> so I remove it.
[07:28] <amish> ok thats h36sa
[07:28] <mac__> hi
[07:28] <youBun2> ...
[07:28] <chuckyp> jach, if you have to ask you probably shouldn't do it.
[07:28] <amish> thanks*
[07:28] <Stormx2> jach: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all "breezy" with "dapper", then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:28] <Tiberian> Is there a way so Ubuntu can read my NTFS Drives ?
[07:28] <linuxhelp> hello @ all
[07:28] <rysiek|pl> has anybody seen a working WakeOnLan on Ubuntu? :)
[07:28] <ubersolid> chuckyp: guess I'll wait then :)
[07:28] <rysiek|pl> Tiberian: yep
[07:29] <Stormx2> Tiberian: Read, yes.
[07:29] <MetaMorfoziS> !xnview
[07:29] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:29] <polpak> !tell Tiberian about ntfs
[07:29] <chuckyp> Stormx2, jach well you need apt-get update first before that.
[07:29] <h36sa> Tiberian, there's ntfs read support in the kernel
[07:29] <rysiek|pl> Stormx2: write too, actually :)
[07:29] <Tiberian> oh.. loooool! :P
[07:29] <linuxhelp> does anyone know to option for live cd "toram"
[07:29] <jach> thank! Stormx2
[07:29] <pretto> did i see someone speaking portuguese here?
[07:29] <chuckyp> jach, or you could "sudo sed -i -e 's/breezy/dapper/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:29] <polpak> pretto, I shouldn't think so
[07:29] <Stormx2> rysiek|pl: Ooh write? Yeah you can do that... but its not particularly reliable eh?
[07:29] <amish> also woudl i need a recovery console
[07:29] <polpak> pretto, there's a separate channel for portuguese
[07:29] <pretto> i saw somene speaking
[07:30] <youBun2> i need some help
[07:30] <rysiek|pl> Stormx2: not when you're using Captive :] 
[07:30] <chuckyp> !helpme
[07:30] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:30] <youBun2> i'm unable to read my sda2 partition which is of ntfs
[07:30] <pretto> * is a system message?
[07:30] <youBun2> and unable to boot XP anymore
[07:30] <polpak> !tell youBun2 about ntfs
[07:30] <rysiek|pl> Stormx2: captive uses... the original M$ drivers and setups a compatibility layer between them and the kernel :)
[07:30] <h36sa> what runlevel does breezy default to?
[07:30] <chuckyp> !tell youBun2 about grub
[07:30] <pretto> polpak.... can you tell me the portuguese room?
[07:30] <polpak> !pr
[07:30] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, polpak
[07:30] <thegladiator> the system becomes very slow while copying files from cd
[07:30] <pretto> !pr
[07:30] <polpak> um.
[07:31] <thegladiator> do you feel the same?
[07:31] <rysiek|pl> !pt
[07:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:31] <polpak> ah
[07:31] <polpak> thx rysiek|pl
[07:31] <rysiek|pl> :)
[07:31] <youBun2> hm.
[07:31] <thegladiator> or it it me ?
[07:31] <lafferpt> using a continue inside a for loop shoudn't go to the begining of the loop ignoring the code below?
[07:31] <pretto> thank you polpak
[07:31] <John00> !pastebin
[07:31] <amish> ?
[07:31] <chuckyp> lafferpt, well it would keep doing the for until blah is satisfied
[07:31] <amish> Do i need a revovary console?
[07:32] <MetaMorfoziS> !firefox1.5
[07:32] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:32] <chuckyp> amish, I would leave that there incases you need to fix something.
[07:32] <Stormx2> rysiek|pl: I see. That in the repos?
[07:32] <wastrel> yay
[07:32] <chuckyp> amish, but that can also be done form a cd.  But I leave mine in.  You can put whatever you want int there.
[07:32] <youBun2> Folks, I created a partition of 10 GB for Ubuntu. The remaining partition of 190GB has XP on it
[07:32] <chuckyp> wastrel, yay/
[07:32] <amish> ok
[07:32] <youBun2> Since installation of Ubuntu I CANNOT access XP
[07:32] <chuckyp> youBun2, read the message from ubotu
[07:33] <graveson> can anyone help me to decode the xorg.log file.i am having problems installing the ATI driver
[07:33] <chuckyp> !tell graveson about ati
[07:33] <youBun2> i have read the message
[07:33] <amish> Right im gogin to boot into windows, a) because gaim wont work and b) because i do
[07:33] <John00> could someone help me with repsoitrioes... here is screenshot http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10408
[07:33] <chuckyp> youBun2, well click on the link for restoring your xp mbr
[07:33] <youBun2> cheers
[07:34] <chuckyp> !tell John00 about repos
[07:34] <youBun2> thank you
[07:34] <chuckyp> youBun2, np
[07:34] <graveson> chuckyp: i have been through the procedures on that page ,and just cannot get the adapter to function
[07:34] <ubersolid> ati working in breezy: use easy ubuntu or automatix, really simple
[07:34] <rysiek|pl> Styrmx2: nope, but just google for captive ntfs and you'll get it
[07:34] <rysiek|pl> Stormx2: ^^^
[07:34] <chuckyp> graveson, can't get it to function?  meaning that your monitor isn't displaying anything?
[07:34] <rysiek|pl> works for me fine for some time now
[07:34] <Johannesen> Hi, I have tried to get Airport Extreme on my Powerbook to function... but, as I can see there is no need for a bcm43xx driver, as it is in the kernel - is that correct?
[07:34] <chuckyp> !automatix
[07:34] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:34] <jach> chuckip: is correct.
[07:35] <jach> chuckip: i prefered vi
[07:35] <chuckyp> Johannesen, I don't think the broadcomm chipsets have support in the kernel I thought you had to use ndiswrapper.
[07:35] <John00> chuckyp: i have enabled universe and multiverse, its different sitution maybe that screenshot can help you understand what i am talking about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10408
[07:35] <Devil^Chat> i need libqt3c102-mt file too install opera where i can get if ?
[07:36] <Johannesen> I got the fwcutter and extracted the AppleAirPort2
[07:36] <graveson> chuckyp : yes when rebooting after enabling the fglrx ,the system remains blank and does not start X
[07:36] <chuckyp> John00, I would just make sure you are using official repos provided in the breezy link.
[07:36] <bsystem> hello
[07:36] <chuckyp> John00, try it with those instead of the gb. ones.  See if you get the same results.
[07:36] <bsystem> i have a question
[07:36] <Johannesen> chuckyp: but I can do modprope bcm43xx
[07:36] <chuckyp> John00, just make sure you back up your sources.list first.
[07:36] <Johannesen> without adding anything
[07:36] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[07:36] <ubotu> Firmware packages for 4306 controllers are at http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[07:36] <youBun2> sigh....
[07:36] <bsystem> how can i reconfigure xchat to get the black theme?
[07:37] <youBun2> i don't get any erros
[07:37] <John00> i awhat do u mean by gb
[07:37] <youBun2> *errors
[07:37] <chuckyp> graveson, well you can switch back to "vesa" to atleast get into x
[07:37] <chuckyp> Johannesen, hrm... dunno maybe i'm thinking of a difference broadcomm chipset.
[07:37] <youBun2> all what happens is that when i select windows xp in the grub
[07:37] <youBun2> it runs through some lines of code
[07:37] <youBun2> and then halts
[07:37] <youBun2> end
[07:37] <youBun2> i have no clue what to do when it does that
[07:37] <graveson> chuckyp: yep thanks
[07:37] <cafuego> Those packages work fine with the Airport Extreme in my iBook.
[07:37] <youBun2> ctrl+alt+del doesn't even reboot at that stage
[07:37] <Devil^Chat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10399
[07:37] <bsystem> any suggestion?
[07:38] <chuckyp> youBun2, well to restore windows if you would read the link.   You can boot an xp cd and go to recovery mode and type fixmbr.  that will atleast get your windows back.
[07:38] <bsystem> yes
[07:38] <youBun2> I do not have an XP CD though.
[07:38] <chuckyp> youBun2, but it will get rid of grub for the time being.
[07:38] <youBun2> Windows XP Home Edition came with my computer already installed on it
[07:38] <bsystem> but with a win98 floppy and type fdisk /mbr
[07:38] <chuckyp> youBun2, didn't it come with a restore cd ?
[07:38] <bsystem> *boot i mean
[07:39] <bsystem> not but
[07:39] <youBun2> I created 3 Master Restore CD's that do not work, as it seems
[07:39] <ubersolid> can't knoppix fix the mbr? can't remember
[07:39] <bsystem> nope
[07:39] <youBun2> My PC has no Floppy Disk Drive as everything is run by CD these days (PC is just about a year old)
[07:39] <chuckyp> youBun2, your system legally has to come wiht the copy of xp you purchased with it.  That would either be on a restore cd or an official microsfot cd.
[07:39] <Johannesen> cafuego: do I need something special? in addition to that?
[07:39] <Devil^Chat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10399 <<< pls hel me
[07:39] <bsystem> youBun2, buy a floppy driove
[07:39] <bsystem> :)
[07:40] <chuckyp> bsystem, nah he doesn't really need one.
[07:40] <wastrel> how many push-ups can you do?
[07:40] <bsystem> ofc
[07:40] <youBun2> I understand that is should but perhaps it comes in form of these 3 CDs that I had to create when I first got it?
[07:40] <bsystem> he can do it with a win98 boot cdrom
[07:40] <chuckyp> youBun2, no probably not those
[07:40] <bsystem> how can i reconfigure xchat to get the black theme?
[07:40] <chuckyp> bsystem, even with an ntfs system installed such as xp?
[07:40] <bsystem> yep
[07:40] <chuckyp> hrm...
[07:40] <youBun2> Alright then, bare with me whilst I take a look through the paperwork.
[07:40] <bsystem> the mbr it's the same
[07:40] <bsystem> i tryed it
[07:41] <cdromke> when i try to mount an smb share, it gives an error message about bad superblock or wrong fs type
[07:41] <wastrel> i didn't get an xp disk with my computer.
[07:41] <chuckyp> youBun2, do you have any cd's such as 98 or anything like that from another computer?
[07:41] <cdromke> i don't like that
[07:41] <wastrel> there's a repair partition on the drive tho
[07:41] <youBun2>  Nope
[07:41] <chuckyp> wastrel, they have to give it to you in one form or another.
[07:41] <michael> How do I play with an iPod on Ubuntu?
[07:41] <chuckyp> !tell michael about ipod
[07:41] <cdromke> using juk
[07:41] <Tiberian> Guys, 1 more thing, i just Edited my xorg.conf file via sudi -i, how do i restart the X ? ;p
[07:41] <cdromke> and the plugins
[07:41] <bsystem> rofl michael
[07:41] <Tiberian> sudo*
[07:41] <youBun2> (would love to run my os x on pc ;-) ) ahem anyway i shall go check] 
[07:41] <michael> sorry, i'm a noob
[07:41] <cdromke> ctrl + alt + backspace
[07:41] <polpak> Tiberian, ctrl-alt-backspace generally does the trick
[07:41] <bsystem> ctrl alt backspace Tiberian
[07:41] <Johannesen> cafuego: I get this http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 64.5.53.83 80] 
[07:42] <Tiberian> ty guys :)
[07:42] <chuckyp> Tiberian, or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:42] <bsystem> he did
[07:42] <bsystem> ctrl alt backspace :)
[07:42] <polpak> bsystem, yep =)
[07:42] <opter> how can you echo your run level?
[07:42] <rysiek|pl> errr... maybe try ctrl-alt-backspace? :P
[07:42] <polpak> opter, type runlevel in terminal
[07:42] <chuckyp> opter, do you have x running?
[07:42] <bsystem> how can i reconfigure xchat to get the black theme?
[07:42] <gnomefreak> opter: runlevel should give you your run level
[07:43] <bsystem> sorry for spam guys
[07:43] <bsystem> but this white theme it's sucky
[07:43] <opter> thanks guys
[07:43] <bsystem> i hate it
[07:43] <chuckyp> bsystem, xchat has themes?
[07:43] <fredmorcos> hey peeps
[07:43] <bsystem> ofc
[07:43] <bsystem> black and white
[07:43] <bsystem> u can chose it when u configure it
[07:43] <bsystem> but
[07:43] <bsystem> i dunno how with ubuntu
[07:43] <fredmorcos> guys
[07:44] <chuckyp> bsystem, dpkg -reconfigure xchat
[07:44] <bsystem> it's the first time for me with this distribution
[07:44] <gnomefreak> bsystem: in the settings somewhere in xchat should allow you to change that
[07:44] <bsystem> i tryed it
[07:44] <polpak> bsystem, I just changed it in the preferences
[07:44] <chuckyp> bsystem, or whatever the reconfigure option is
[07:44] <bsystem> it dont work
[07:44] <chuckyp> bsystem, yeah you could just change it in preferences to what ever color you want.
[07:44] <bsystem> changed how polpak ?
[07:44] <gopi> Hi, How to get latest Souces.list please ??
[07:44] <gnomefreak> bsystem: after changing them did you restart xchat?
[07:44] <wastrel> bsystem:  want me to post my ~/.xchat2/palette.conf ?
[07:44] <gopi> Hi, How to get latest Sources.list please ??
[07:44] <fredmorcos> i need some application to be able to control a windows machine from my linux one (with graphical support, means i want it like im actually in front of it)
[07:44] <Stormx2> bsystem: Be a little more descriptive. Why doesn't it work?
[07:44] <Mabus06> I just added my windows partition to fstab, but I can only access it via root now. Can I chmod the whole directory recursively, and if so how should I do it?
[07:44] <polpak> under interface->Text box
[07:44] <bsystem> ofc wastrel
[07:44] <fredmorcos> the machine is over the network and file sharing is working fine
[07:44] <chuckyp> !tell gopi about repos
[07:44] <gopi> thegladiator: hello
[07:45] <thegladiator> gopi, hey gk !
[07:45] <jollyjumper> anyone have an idea of what I should do to run X on my intel 915 chipset ?
[07:45] <gopi> thegladiator: I installed Ubuntu again :(
[07:45] <fredmorcos> Mabus06, did u mount it in a dir that u can already access?
[07:45] <thegladiator> why ?!
[07:45] <chuckyp> !tell jollyjumper about 915
[07:45] <thegladiator> what happened ?
[07:45] <youBun2> right
[07:45] <youBun2> according to my manual
[07:45] <Mabus06> fredmorcos: no, it's in /media/windows
[07:45] <chuckyp> jollyjumper, there is something int he wiki aboutit.
[07:45] <gopi> thegladiator: I messed with some TV drivers and TV totally didnt work...
[07:46] <Tiberian> Bah.... CRAP ! >:(
[07:46] <turix> so ehm, what's the opposit to 'apt-get -f install' ?
[07:46] <bsystem> wastrel, can u send it to me via mail ?
[07:46] <jollyjumper> ill have a look in the wiki then
[07:46] <fredmorcos> mount it into /home/your_user_name_here/windows
[07:46] <polpak> tuomasi, apt-get -f remove ?
[07:46] <Mabus06> fredmorcos: I can only access it as root in terminal (its only read access)
[07:46] <thegladiator> oh , now are you trying to set it back  from step one ?
[07:46] <rysiek|pl> jollyjumper: try VESA
[07:46] <turix> i've got these unmet dependencies
[07:46] <chuckyp> youBun2, well you could mess around with /boot/grub/menu.1st if tat is some how messed up but I doubt it or you can find a windows cd and boot to that to fix it.
[07:46] <Devil^Chat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10399 <<< pls hel me
[07:46] <youBun2> it says that 'No seperate copies of the Windows discs and Microsoft utilities are provided. All the programs are included in your Master CDs, Master DVD or hidden partition.
[07:46] <rysiek|pl> it works almost with everything :)
[07:46] <turix> and i want to get rid of them
[07:46] <fredmorcos> Mabus06, mount it into /home/your_user_name_here/windows
[07:47] <chuckyp> youBun2, right maybe wastrel can help you with that hidden partition garbage whihc hopefully you did't delete.
[07:47] <fredmorcos> Mabus06, change the fstab entry for it and mount it to that location
[07:47] <wastrel> bsystem:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10410  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10411
[07:47] <johannes> Where do I find which hardware works with Ubuntu? Thanks
[07:47] <fredmorcos> Mabus06, the in the terminal type: sudo mount -a
[07:47] <Tiberian> Guys, im runing Ubu now with 8 bit color depth, and when i put over 8 (16, 24) my screen get "fuzzy" (?) any ideas whats goin on?
[07:48] <wastrel> ok what am i doing?
[07:48] <youBun2> Could someone tell me... does their Ubuntu have a folder called 'File System' ?
[07:48] <chuckyp> johannes, if you have a question about your hardware you could always try the live cd.
[07:48] <Mabus06> fredmorcos: thanks, I got it when you told me to change the mount place ;-)
[07:48] <bsystem> this imac rule with ubuntu
[07:48] <chuckyp> youBun2, no
[07:48] <kbrooks> !easyubuntu
[07:48] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[07:48] <youBun2> aha
[07:48] <g0dchild> ok, ipmasq and dnsmasq has been a total failure
[07:48] <fredmorcos> Mabus06, anytime :)
[07:48] <youBun2> then i have found the drive/hidden partition with my back up on
[07:48] <g0dchild> are there any quick fixes to setup a connection with the ubuntu machine as the router?
[07:48] <chuckyp> youBun2, yeah but you have no way of booting to it.
[07:48] <Mabus06> fredmorcos: how do I unmount /dev/hda1 from /media/windows ? It's already 'busy'
[07:49] <johannes> Thanks but is there a hardware database on the internet?
[07:49] <youBun2> true
[07:49] <chuckyp> Mabus06, sudo umount
[07:49] <gopi> After copying and saving sources.list....... what should I do? sudo apt-get install ?
[07:49] <chuckyp> johannes, linuxcompatible maybe?
[07:49] <fredmorcos> Mabus06, try: sudo umount -f /dev/hda1
[07:49] <youBun2> well thing is, i have this partition i just mentioned, the 130 GB of XP that I can't access due to NTFS file system or some other reason and then the 10 GB partition running ubuntu
[07:49] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[07:49] <ubotu> hmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:49] <polpak> g0dchild, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml the instructions are pretty much the same
[07:49] <gopi> chuckyp: After copying and saving sources.list....... what should I do? sudo apt-get install ?
[07:49] <Mabus06> fredmorcos: it's still chowned by root
[07:50] <thegladiator> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:50] <gnomefreak> gopi: sudo apt-get update
[07:50] <thegladiator> sudo apt-get update
[07:50] <thegladiator> sorry*
[07:50] <fredmorcos> mm..
[07:50] <gopi> ok
[07:50] <alex_2> hi ppl
[07:50] <chuckyp> gopi, apt-get update first
[07:50] <fredmorcos> mab
[07:50] <chuckyp> gopi, sudo apt-get update sry
[07:50] <turix> speaking of the apt-get
[07:50] <chuckyp> gopi, then install whatever you want.
[07:50] <fredmorcos> Mabus06, re-mount it then try umounting it again
[07:50] <azurehuesofblue> <-- newb, Where would I find the exec file for Xchat on my filesystem?
[07:50] <portoport> where is the mysql data saved normally in ubuntu?
[07:50] <g0dchild> thanks- polpak
[07:50] <bsystem> brb
[07:50] <turix> i've got a couple of 'unmet dependencies' packages
[07:50] <chuckyp> azurehuesofblue, try which xchat
[07:50] <Mabus06> fredmorcos: it's mounted, that's not the problem. The root is the owner.
[07:50] <portoport> i have installed postfix to use mysql and i dont where the emails where saved
[07:51] <youBun2> My only line of thinking is that I get rid of GNU GRUB (but then what OS would boot up as default??) and then the other option is to somehow access my NTFS drive
[07:51] <polpak> portoport, /var/lib/mysql I believe
[07:51] <turix> and how do i get rid of them
[07:51] <turix> kinda like the opposit to 'apt-get -f install'
[07:51] <turix> :P
[07:51] <gnomefreak> turix: depends why they are unmet
[07:51] <azurehuesofblue> chuckyp right on thanks!
[07:51] <chuckyp> youBun2, depends where you instlaled grub to.  If you get rid of grub and it was installed to mbr of your windows driver hten no os will boot.
[07:51] <polpak> turix, apt-get remove ?
[07:51] <turix> well " common-lisp-controller: Depends: cl-asdf (>= 1.55) but it is not installable""
[07:51] <Ra211> can someone please tell me what the command is to change startup programs in sessions?  I've screwed it up and now I can't start GDM anymore
[07:52] <fredmorcos> Mabus06, then use sudo umount, sometimes when u mount it again it gets freed so u can umount it
[07:52] <turix> polpak: see my problem?
[07:52] <portoport> what about the emails where are they save?
[07:52] <bsystem> it works
[07:52] <gnomefreak> portoport: most likely in your home dir somewhere
[07:53] <bsystem> tnx
[07:53] <wastrel> yay
[07:53] <Mabus06> fredmorcos: I had no problems mounting. I can access it. But only as root. It's in my home directory.
[07:53] <gnomefreak> turix: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[07:53] <chuckyp> youBun2, the proper way to replace the mbr would be with a windows cd and typing fixmbr that would replace grub.
[07:54] <gopi> chuckyp, gnomefreak: I saved sources.list and then currently Iam doing "sudo aptget update" .... but when should I enable that Universe and Multiverse repos ?
[07:54] <portoport> using telnet localhost 143 , how do i check my email manually?
[07:54] <fredrich> lk
[07:54] <youBun2> Hmm I've found something
[07:54] <Amish> IM back again but in wondows :P
[07:54] <youBun2> Ok, when it asked me during installation
[07:54] <polpak> portoport, what protocol ?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> gopi: you didnt do that when you had the list open?
[07:54] <polpak> portoport, I only know pop3
[07:54] <portoport> cuz im finding it hard to configure squirrelmail to connect to my own mail server using postfix+mysql
[07:54] <gopi> gnomefreak: no
[07:54] <portoport> ok pop3 teach me how
[07:54] <youBun2> The following operating systems have been detected on this comnputer. Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition.
[07:54] <fredmorcos> Mabus06, i dont get exactly whats your problem
[07:54] <polpak> portoport, you have to connect to port 110
[07:55] <turix> gnomefreak: pastebin?
[07:55] <polpak> portoport, or at least that's where pop3 usually happens
[07:55] <youBun2> If all of your operating systems are listed above, then it should be safe to install the boot loader to the master boot recoard of your first hard drive.
[07:55] <portoport> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier   <-- i have done this already and i want to test if the email is delivered or sent
[07:55] <chuckyp> youBun2, if you don't have the xp cd you could always try http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[07:55] <gnomefreak> gopi: why doi i remember just going over this with you a week or so ago
[07:55] <alex_2> small question: i'm using xgl. is there any way to make it recognize more than 7 mouse buttons?
[07:55] <chuckyp> youBun2, yes in theory it shouldn't have messed anything up.
[07:55] <gopi> gnomefreak: Currently .... Get:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages [2237kB] 
[07:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell turix about pastebin
[07:55] <chuckyp> youBun2, or you could try to reinstall ubuntu and let it reinstall grub again
[07:55] <portoport> polpak after telnet localhost 110
[07:55] <portoport> ?
[07:55] <chuckyp> youBun2, maybe it hiccuped but I doubt it.
[07:55] <dv_> hi
[07:55] <youBun2> When your computer boots, you will be able to choose to load one of these operating systems or your new Ubuntu system. Install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record? YES NO
[07:56] <gopi> gnomefreak: I already said... I installed Ubunto again from scratch !! :(
[07:56] <turix> -_-
[07:56] <polpak> portoport, type user yourusername
[07:56] <gnomefreak> gopi: if you have the universe lines in there just add multiverse to the end with a space in between universe and multiverse
[07:56] <polpak> portoport, then type pass yourpassword
[07:56] <turix> i've only edited my sources.list once, when i added the wine http
[07:56] <youBun2> Hm...
[07:56] <turix> i don't think there's anything wrong with it
[07:56] <polpak> portoport, then type list to see the list of messages, which will give you the message index and message size
[07:57] <polpak> portoport, then you can type retr indexnumber to retrieve that message
[07:57] <gopi> gnomefreak: But its also showing..... Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Packages [2993B] 
[07:57] <portoport> ok
[07:57] <youBun2> What is a good CD burner for ubuntu?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> gopi: those are not even close to the same repos
[07:57] <youBun2> Since I can't even erase a CD-RW on this
[07:57] <h36sa> hi.. I can't get udev to start on boot (not sure why it stopped working.. I was messing with rc scripts). so X won't start (can;t find the mouse).. I do a /etc/init.d/udev restart && /etc/init.d/gdm restart   and everything works fine
[07:58] <h36sa> what do I need to check
[07:58] <silvaran> h36sa: Will it start manually (/etc/init.d/udev start)
[07:58] <silvaran> don't forget sudo
[07:58] <polpak> youBun2, gnomebaker or k3b works well
[07:58] <h36sa> silvaran: it restarts.. gives me a warning about odd behavior and waits a minute when I try to do udev start
[07:58] <gnomefreak> gopi: where ever you see universe in your sources.list put the word multiverse after it if its not already there
[07:58] <gopi> gnomefreak: oh... so what should I do? Should I enable Universe and Multiverse in Synaptic Package manager and try Update again ?
[07:58] <youBun2> thanks
[07:58] <portoport> after typing pass mypassword  it says login failed
[07:58] <fredmorcos> guys!
[07:59] <chuckyp> wastrel, didyou post your xchat colors config?
[07:59] <fredmorcos> i need some application to be able to control a windows machine from my linux one (with graphical support, means i want it like im actually in front of it)
[07:59] <fredmorcos> the machine is over the network and file sharing is working fine
[07:59] <h36sa> silvaran: well, it should be starting at boot.
[07:59] <polpak> portoport, then either your user or password was wrong
[07:59] <gopi> gnomefreak: oh ok...
[07:59] <gnomefreak> gopi: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <silvaran> h36sa: Yeah, it should... you can try submitting the output to pastebin and printing the link to the channel so everyone can have a look.
[07:59] <portoport> hmm
[07:59] <bestadvocate> hey guys, whenever I try to use apt on dapper, i get this error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download director
[07:59] <turix> look i can't run apt-get because everytime i try it prints "You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[08:00] <turix> The following packages have unmet dependencies:"
[08:00] <Fackamato> so
[08:00] <h36sa> silvaran: what should I paste?
[08:00] <silvaran> bestadvocate: Something else has the repo locked... close synaptic
[08:00] <silvaran> h36sa: The output of "/etc/init.d/udev start"
[08:00] <wastrel> chuckyp:  in fact i did sir!  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10410    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10411
[08:00] <Fackamato> what MAJOR differences can I find between breezy and dapper flight 5?
[08:00] <silvaran> h36sa: possibly even the output of "dmesg"
[08:00] <paganini> I'm running GNOME 2.12.1 - the default for Breezy, I think - and I remember that in earlier versions you could allow application windows to cover up your panel, they way you can in KDE. I'd like to do that, but I can't find an option to turn it on. Anyone know how to do this?
[08:00] <chuckyp> turix, did you try running sudo apt-get -f install then?
[08:00] <gopi> gnomefreak: Will u plz see my sources.list once ?
[08:00] <h36sa> nothing useful in dmesg.. doesn't restart basically do the same as start?
[08:00] <h36sa> I'll go wait the minute..
[08:00] <silvaran> h36sa: Kind of
[08:00] <silvaran> !pastebin
[08:01] <gnomefreak> turix: if everything was right you wouldnt be having depends issues in breezy
[08:01] <turix> chuckyp: but i dont want to install those packages
[08:01] <katarot> anyone know how i can get .exe to work in ubuntu
[08:01] <silvaran> Don't tell me, dufus...
[08:01] <portoport> i have set it in my mysql correctly
[08:01] <silvaran> ubotu: tell h36sa about pastebin
[08:01] <h36sa> I know what pastebin is
[08:01] <silvaran> h36sa: Start pasting ;)
[08:01] <chuckyp> wastrel, why 2?
[08:01] <gopi> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10412
[08:01] <h36sa> I've gotta wait a fkin minute :P
[08:02] <bestadvocate> silvaran: how do I quit the program that has the repo locked (I tried closing synaptic and everything else and running apt from the command line, and that printed out the same error
[08:02] <chuckyp> turix, well you need to fix the errors first
[08:02] <wastrel> chuckyp:  one's colors.conf and one's palette.conf -  dunno what they each do, so i provided both
[08:02] <silvaran> bestadvocate: try doing a "lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[08:02] <turix> chuckyp: what errors?
[08:02] <h36sa> plus it's on my laptop, and without udev, I can't load X and without X pasting is difficult :(
[08:02] <gnomefreak> gopi: that list is good
[08:02] <h36sa> but I'll see what I can do
[08:02] <gnomefreak> go with it
[08:02] <silvaran> h36sa: I never thought of that; good point.
[08:03] <h36sa> haha.. it just works
[08:03] <gnomefreak> turix: the packages that sudo apt-get -f install installs or removes are needed for you to fix your system
[08:03] <katarot> would this work download the driver.exe and if i get the driver.exe to work would  i get my wirless working
[08:03] <bestadvocate> silvaran: that command didnt print anything
[08:03] <gopi> gnomefreak: So no need to add Multiverse after Universe right ?
[08:03] <gnomefreak> gopi: its added already
[08:03] <silvaran> bestadvocate: ok hang on
[08:03] <mivecz> gnomefreak hi
[08:03] <gnomefreak> hi mivecz
[08:03] <mivecz> gnomefreak how i i nstall kde  3,5
[08:03] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok thx !
[08:03] <h36sa> gives me the warning about waiting a minute.. then starting hardware even daemon... [ok] , mounting tm,pfs over /dev.. [ok] , creating initial device nodes... [ok] 
[08:04] <h36sa> and yeah X works
[08:04] <gnomefreak> mivecz: go to easysources add the kubuntu3.5 repos than apt-get update than apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:04] <silvaran> bestadvocate: lsof /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[08:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mivecz about easysource
[08:04] <chuckyp> ahh black and whit enow
[08:04] <silvaran> For the love of all things ubuntu I'm stupid today.
[08:04] <h36sa> so... /etc/init.d/udev start work
[08:04] <youBun2> Can someone give me a direct download URL for Gnomebreaker for Ubuntu?
[08:04] <bestadvocate> silvaran: also printed nothing
[08:04] <chuckyp> wastrel, ty for the black and white
[08:04] <chuckyp> chuckyp, test
[08:04] <wastrel> chuckyp:  welcome to the dark side :] 
[08:04] <_jason> !info gnomebaker
[08:04] <ubotu> gnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 359 kB, Installed size: 1240 kB
[08:05] <silvaran> bestadvocate: And you still get the error?
[08:05] <mivecz> ok now  i remeber
[08:05] <mivecz> sudo apt-get install kde
[08:05] <thomas`> would not having swap space stop dapper drake from installing?
[08:05] <mivecz> :P
[08:05] <turix> gnomefreak: it's just that it's going to install the linux-image-2.6.12-9-k7
[08:05] <_jason> youBun2: it's in the universe repository.  Have you enabled it?
[08:05] <chuckyp> wastrel, yeah don't need the palette.conf atleast I don't have one.  Only the colors.conf is used for display.
[08:05] <youBun2> Excuse me?
[08:05] <katarot> any one can i change .exe or just make them work on ubuntu
[08:05] <void^> not having swap would stop arbitrary things from working correctly
[08:05] <bestadvocate> silvaran: wow no, thanks?
[08:05] <h36sa> thomas`: only if you have like 8mb ram
[08:05] <turix> and when i run 'uname -a' it says  2.6.12-10-386
[08:05] <_jason> youBun2: are you familiar with synaptic?
[08:05] <thomas`> i have 1gb
[08:05] <thomas`> it just hanged i noticed
[08:05] <youBun2> No
[08:05] <gopi> gnomefreak, chuckyp: So now sudo apt-get update is over..... what should I do ? Upgrade also needed ?
[08:05] <mivecz> gnomefreak thnks  but i wont the default  sorry  i  found it:)
[08:05] <thomas`> when it detected hardware in the installation
[08:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell youBun2 about synaptic
[08:05] <silvaran> bestadvocate: Nah, just keep in mind those two commands in case it happens again.
[08:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell youBun2 about universe
[08:06] <bestadvocate> alright
[08:06] <turix> im not a doctor but isnt 10 better than 9 =p
[08:06] <chuckyp> gopi, what are you tyring to do upgrade to dapper?
[08:06] <portoport> sheezz login failed
[08:06] <youBun2> This is my first installation of Ubuntu, however I am good with computers in general
[08:06] <h36sa> silvaran: you get my output from udev?
[08:06] <silvaran> h36sa: No I can't see your screen
[08:06] <thomas`> i wonder whats going on why certain stuff wont install.... i noticed the kororaa livecd wouldnt bootup for me now i cant install dapper drake
[08:06] <gopi> chuckyp: No... bt is it better yo upgrade to dapper ?
[08:06] <thomas`> what is going on gosh
[08:06] <_jason> youBun2: check your private messages from ubotu for some info about synaptic and universe
[08:06] <h36sa> everything loaded fine, and I could start X.. now why doesn't it do it at boot. when I see the .. "setting up /dev" it finishes with ..  [ok] 
[08:07] <chuckyp> gopi, what are you trying to do?  I don't understand you just said apt-get update worked now should I blah?
[08:07] <silvaran> h36sa: I don't know... try the recovery mode and look for unusual output.
[08:07] <h36sa> k
[08:07] <youBun2> I have
[08:07] <RuffianSoldier> Is it a bad idea to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy?
[08:07] <youBun2> but still this is useless
[08:07] <gopi> chuckyp: Actually I want to install TV viewing application...
[08:07] <katarot> is ubotu a bot
[08:07] <mivecz> gnomefreak also  i  use  dapper drake   every little i update is tell me to update can i  update all the new   one time andno  all the day   notify
[08:07] <chuckyp> youBun2, what are you trying to do still?
[08:07] <youBun2> Where is Computer -> System Configurations?
[08:07] <thomas`> i wanna know why linux is acting strange now...
[08:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell katarot about yourself
[08:07] <youBun2> I open Computer and I get my drives listed etc.
[08:08] <gopi> chuckyp: So is this breezy fine or upgrade to dapper is better ?
[08:08] <paganini> This is strange. When I put a DVD-movie in my drive, I get a little icon on my desktop that says "DVDROM DISK" and a window pops up asking me if I want to burn files to it. I can't play the DVD in totem. Re-installing gnome-volume-manager fixes this problem. But, it seems to randomly reoccur. Any ideas?
[08:08] <chuckyp> gopi, well after you enable universe or whatever you where doing just sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[08:08] <_jason> youBun2: what are you referring to?
[08:08] <thomas`> i knew i shoulda created swap space didnt gethow to set it up tho when i installed  5.10 so i skiped it
[08:08] <youBun2> Aha
[08:08] <youBun2> Nevermind
[08:08] <chuckyp> gopi, or you can use synaptic.
[08:08] <gnomefreak> mivecz: cron only runs apt-get update 1 time a day the rest if you want to do more you do by typing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:08] <youBun2> I was looking at the location method for below Ubuntu 5.10
[08:08] <silvaran> thomas`: How much ram do you have?
[08:08] <turix> chuckyp: it says its going to install the linux-image-2.6.12-9-k7 but my current version is 2.6.12-10-386
[08:08] <paco> hello
[08:08] <thomas`> 1gb pf pc3500
[08:08] <gopi> chuckyp: ok
[08:08] <turix> it doesn't make sense
[08:08] <silvaran> thomas`: don't worry about it then.
[08:08] <thomas`> im using 14percent of it right now
[08:08] <thomas`> but its not the thign just wont install...
[08:08] <_jason> youBun2: are you ok now?
[08:08] <thomas`> i just do not get whats stopping it
[08:09] <mivecz> <gnomefreak i  write  but is  continew make  update  3-4 time per  dayP
[08:09] <paco> my image stats are not displayed on mailgraph couriergraph et binfgraph.. any idea ?
[08:09] <silvaran> thomas`: what do you mean?
[08:09] <thomas`> dapper drake
[08:09] <silvaran> thomas`: Ubuntu won't install at all?
[08:09] <chuckyp> turix, I dunno you have some broken dependency somewhere I'm sure there is  away to ignore the error though but I wouldn't.
[08:09] <h36sa> hmm weird.. it's giving me an error about no tmpfs support
[08:09] <gnomefreak> mivecz: it might be set differnt in testing
[08:09] <thomas`> not dapper drake
[08:09] <mivecz> ok\
[08:09] <thomas`> i installed 5.10 fine
[08:09] <thomas`> but... when i just tried it hanged on detecting new hardware
[08:09] <thomas`> it loaded
[08:09] <thomas`> then the screen was just blue with a grey stripe at the bottum
[08:09] <youBun2> ok
[08:09] <youBun2> now then
[08:09] <thegladiator> gopi done ?
[08:09] <silvaran> thomas`: it wouldn't have anything to do with swap.
[08:09] <youBun2> how do i install gnobebaker?
[08:10] <turix> chuckyp:  so you suggest that i run the apt-get -f install afterall?
[08:10] <thomas`> any idea what then?
[08:10] <_jason> youBun2: did you enable universe?
[08:10] <thomas`> i really woudl like to get this up and running..
[08:10] <chuckyp> dapper talk is in #ubuntu+1 so stop asking questions about dapper here.
[08:10] <silvaran> thomas`: The best thing to do might be to install breezy, then update to dapper from there...
[08:10] <thomas`> ...
[08:10] <chuckyp> turix, what are you ultimately trying to do?  Just install something?
[08:10] <thomas`> imight just load bios defaults
[08:10] <portoport> thanks guys
[08:10] <thomas`> and try doing it
[08:10] <portoport> have to sleep now
[08:10] <portoport> 3:30am
[08:10] <silvaran> chuckyp: He's running breezy now so it doesn't count.
[08:10] <Ads_> ubuntu is slower than windows
[08:10] <turix> chuckyp: yup
[08:10] <pome> guys, I'm trying to apt-get plone, any tips?
[08:10] <chuckyp> turix, and the problem is you can't because of that message?
[08:10] <pome> it's not working
[08:11] <gopi> thegladiator: what done?
[08:11] <turix> no but it says is going to install a previous kernel version
[08:11] <chuckyp> turix, what are you trying to install that it wants to do that?
[08:11] <_jason> pome: can you give some more information than ``not working''
[08:11] <thegladiator> gopi, back to working conditon ?
[08:11] <turix> linux-image-2.6.12-9-k7 is a previous kernel version if my current is 2.6.12-10-386, right?
[08:11] <thegladiator> gopi, tv etc ?
[08:11] <chuckyp> turix, right
[08:11] <Grark> I've been hearing that ubuntu is slower than windows....any tweaking guides around?
[08:11] <gnomefreak> turix: is it a 64bit app you are trying to install?
[08:12] <HappyFool> pome: i played with plone for a little while; I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think the plone-site was useful to get going with plone
[08:12] <chuckyp> Grark, its not slower than windows
[08:12] <turix> nope
[08:12] <Ads_> Gark, it is slower than windows :P
[08:12] <gopi> thegladiator: now xawtv is getting downloaded... and then I will download Blackdown java and then install Jin....
[08:12] <thomas`> i just want my compiz+xgl!
[08:12] <pome> _jason: well, 'zope2.8' appears in init.d, but I get an error when i try to start it
[08:12] <HappyFool> pome: that is, the plone-site package
[08:12] <turix> its an i386
[08:12] <thomas`> why has everyone experienced it but me! noo =(
[08:12] <ompaul> Grark, you need to change your news sources
[08:12] <thomas`> what  could i do to possibly get stuff working
[08:12] <chuckyp> turix, what package are you trying to install?
[08:12] <silvaran> thomas`: what video card?
[08:12] <turix> chuckyp: i tried to install cl-jpeg earlier
[08:12] <thegladiator> gopi, ok cool
[08:12] <thomas`> to install blahdamnit...
[08:12] <thomas`> 6800 GT PCI-E
[08:12] <pome> '* Zope2.8: no instances found.'
[08:12] <thomas`> amd 64 3000+
[08:12] <pome> HappyFool: yes, i tried that too
[08:12] <thomas`> 1gb ram and nothing
[08:13] <Grark> Compare a fresh install of xp and a fresh install of ubuntu and I think it is.
[08:13] <thomas`> wont even boot up a friggin livecd now
[08:13] <turix> chuckyp: is there someway to sortof regret it? :P
[08:13] <h36sa> thomas`: you're overheating or you have bad ram
[08:13] <chuckyp> turix, okay well what I would do is backup my /boot/grub/menu.1st then do the -f install that way you still remember the old kernel name.
[08:13] <Grark> But I'm one who knows that even if it is, I'm OK with that, I like the stability
[08:13] <Grark> AND the longer XP goes, the slower it gets.
[08:13] <Grark> but i've heard good things about linux in general and it's longevity
[08:13] <chuckyp> turix, regardless of what it wants to install it should still boot to the newest kernel.
[08:13] <vax_> hello
[08:14] <Ads_> Grark, ubuntu sucks for me, i've done a fresh install of it and fixed all the so called mem leaks but to no avail. It can only handle a few bunch of apps before xorg starts to cock up and hog the cpu, that or one of your apps just hogs the cpu for no reason. Major pain in the ass
[08:14] <silvaran> thomas`: Why not just go with the s/breezy/dapper/g in your sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[08:14] <turix> chuckyp: yeah you're right, feels kinda risky though
[08:14] <youBun2> Yes, I have enabled Universe
[08:14] <turix> thx anyway :P
[08:14] <vax_> anyone know what is the package that create a men called "Debian"?
[08:14] <ompaul> Grark, if you want to talk this is not the channel for it please go to #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help channel you seem to be making non specific comments that are not help requests
[08:14] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[08:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[08:14] <youBun2> It is installing updates now
[08:14] <Grark> Ads_, maybe it's your ram.
[08:14] <silvaran> or that.
[08:14] <silvaran> ubotu: thanks
[08:14] <gnomefreak> please use the tool if your gonna upgrade from breezy to dapper thank you
[08:14] <ubotu> silvaran: my pleasure
[08:14] <Grark> ompaul, understood
[08:14] <h36sa> silvaran: so it looks like udev is complaining about a lack of tmpfs support, and that's why it won't start.. but I've tried 4 different kernels (all have worked fine before) and all of them report the same thing. where do I need to look now
[08:14] <youBun2> Now what?
[08:14] <chuckyp> turix, not really it should still boot the newer kernel and it will make apt happy so you can use it again.  Or you can remove the package that is giving your grief if you don't need it.
[08:14] <pome> Grark: Linux rocks, but it's still miles behind the alternatives when it comes to GUI's
[08:14] <Ads_> Grark, I don't think so, XP can run much better on the same system
[08:15] <ubersolid> b.s
[08:15] <Grark> I was actually trying to say even IF it's slower, there are solid trade offs.  END OF TOPIC
[08:15] <chuckyp> Ads_, you're crazy
[08:15] <silvaran> h36sa: crappy crappy... and yet /etc/init.d/udev start works fine ?
[08:15] <vax_> nobody know what is the package that create a men called "Debian"?
[08:15] <Ads_> chuckyp that was a constructive reply
[08:15] <silvaran> h36sa: what's 'uname -a' say?
[08:15] <ubersolid> xp is better than ubuntu in ONE thing; games
[08:15] <chuckyp> Ads_, I want to see you run xp with apache mysql php and a whole bunch of other stuff running and use your xp system under load?
[08:15] <h36sa> Ads_: you should check your /etc/hosts file
[08:15] <_jason> youBun2: so press search and search for gnomebaker, then right click > install, then press apply
[08:15] <chuckyp> Ads_, it won't even compare to nix.
[08:16] <gnomefreak> vax_: yes hold on i have it somewhere
[08:16] <dv_> ubersolid, thats not really ubuntu's fault
[08:16] <nexact> ubersolid, you still have cedega to emule it :] 
[08:16] <Ads_> chuckyp how about......i don't NEED to run mysql php
[08:16] <chuckyp> Ads_, once nix is configured properly It will run pound for pound with xp if not better.
[08:16] <ubersolid> yes i know :) linux i general :)
[08:16] <vax_> gnomefreak, what the name please?
[08:16] <youBun2> thanks
[08:16] <youBun2> it's doing now
[08:16] <chuckyp> Ads_, well how bout you don't need half of the stuff you are loading on boot with ubuntu?  And once youg et rid of that you will see the speed difference.
[08:16] <gnomefreak> vax_: menu-xdg iirc
[08:16] <h36sa> silvaran: yeah /etc/init.d/udev start works fine... Linux toad 2.6.12.toad #3 Wed Mar 15 22:39:41 PST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:16] <Grark> ompaul, I've been nothing but thankful for all the help here.
[08:16] <wastrel> the default firefox installed with breezy is hella slow.  upgrading to ff1.5 helps a lot
[08:16] <pome> HappyFool: plone-site worked this time, but when I try /manage, it rejects the user and pass I set it up with
[08:16] <thegladiator> chuckyp, whats nix ?
[08:16] <ompaul> Ads_, failing to boot and suddenly failing is a sign of hardware issues check out booting with wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[08:16] <pome> HappyFool: any idea what the default might be?
[08:16] <chuckyp> Ads_, for instance I betyou are loading blue tootch and other stuff with out even having those devices.
[08:17] <chuckyp> thegladiator, linux=nix
[08:17] <silvaran> k31th: cat /boot/config-2.6.12* | grep TMPFS
[08:17] <vax_> gnomefreak, i need to remove, oh but if i try to remove menu-xdg it remove more package dependencies..
[08:17] <thegladiator> ah yep
[08:17] <vax_> gnomefreak, is all right anyway?
[08:17] <Grark> chuckyp, ok maybe "I" need to turn some stuff off too :)
[08:17] <gnomefreak> vax_: could you give me a hint on what it wants to remove?
[08:17] <Ads_> chuckyp, that may be true i would like to be pointed in the right direction on how to keep only the bare essential services running, and if after that i am not satisfied then i will still hold true to my opinion atm
[08:17] <chuckyp> Grark, thats probably a good possibility ubuntu loads a ton of crap that you don't really need.
[08:18] <h36sa> silvaran: CONFIG_TMPFS/CONFIG_TMPFS_XATTR/CONFIG_TMPFS_SECURITY all =y
[08:18] <silvaran> h36sa: Shouldn't be a problem with tmpfs... do you know the exact error message?
[08:18] <vax_> gnomefreak, yes, just a moment
[08:18] <HappyFool> pome: sorry, not sure
[08:18] <h36sa> I'll reboot and get it, 1 sec
[08:18] <chuckyp> Ads_, well you can use update-rc.d to configure services but I'm not even going to get into that here.  Its something that should be in the wiki.  About configuring startup services.
[08:18] <Grark> Ads_, that would be helpful for me too since I'm new, most of the serivces would be hudden
[08:18] <ompaul> Ads_, what services do you want?
[08:18] <Grark> *hidden
[08:18] <k31th> silvaran: lol wat ?
[08:18] <HappyFool> pome: looked in /usr/share/doc/plone-site* ?
[08:18] <silvaran> k31th: Uh...?
[08:18] <pome> HappyFool: I'll give it a whirl
[08:19] <Ads_> ompaul: only the needed services.......nothing uncessary
[08:19] <vax_> gnomefreak, It remove too k3b, kaffeine etc etc..
[08:19] <chuckyp> ompaul, for instance how ubuntu loads bluetooth on every install even though a majority of people don't have it.  There are a ton of useless services that get loaded.  And people complain of the slowness without knowing how to correct it.
[08:19] <ompaul> Ads_, define needed
[08:19] <chuckyp> ompaul, like cups etc...
[08:19] <whiter> hello, i cant seem to run ./install
[08:19] <whiter> from bash
[08:20] <k31th> you msg me some random crap
[08:20] <whiter> thomas@jrubuntu:/mnt/hdc1/incomming/firefox/winetools-0.9jo-III$ ./install
[08:20] <whiter> bash: ./install: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[08:20] <ubersolid> whiter try sh ./install
[08:20] <Ads_> well i'm not too experienced in ubuntu yet so i don't know what is "needed" to keep it stable, i just want to turn off anything i probably don't need
[08:20] <gnomefreak> vax_: right down what it wants to remove as long as they are just apps like that nothing too important and after you remove it install those apps again
[08:20] <silvaran> k31th: /msg it back
[08:20] <whiter> it says it has to be done from root
[08:20] <chuckyp> Ads_, and you can use utilities such as prelink etc...
[08:20] <whiter> @ ubersolid
[08:20] <pome> HappyFool: nothing there, but I figured it out
[08:20] <whiter> but when i use sudo
[08:20] <vax_> gnomefreak, Ok, thanks
[08:20] <h36sa> silvaran: * version 2.86 booting  -- grep: /proc/filesystems: no such file or directory -- *udev reqiores tmpfs support, not started. -- grep: /proc/cmdline: no such file or directory -- * setting disc parameters... -- setting standby to 120 (10 minutes) -- [ok] 
[08:20] <Grark> chuckyp, prelink?
[08:20] <whiter> sudo: unable to execute ./install: Permission denied
[08:20] <Ads_> chuckyp: prelink?
[08:20] <whiter> ah nvm i got it
[08:20] <pome> HappyFool: despite using a different username, it accepts 'admin' and my chosen password
[08:20] <ubersolid> whiter try chmod +x ./install , then ./install
[08:21] <whiter> had to do "sudo sh ./install"
[08:21] <pome> HappyFool: which gets me in the ZMI - there is no plone instance
[08:21] <ubersolid> k
[08:21] <silvaran> h36sa: Do you have the following line in your /etc/fstab (no quotes): "proc            /proc           proc        defaults       0      0"
[08:21] <ompaul> Ads_, you can use this tool but if you break your system I want you to write this down - >> /etc/init.d/* start << * is a wild card if you shut something down with this program I give you then you can restart it with a command line
[08:21] <silvaran> h36sa: proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 :)
[08:21] <HappyFool> pome: you're already way beyond me, sorry
[08:21] <chuckyp> Ads_, Grark prelink will allow apps to come up faster.
[08:21] <silvaran> k31th: Hurry up, the suspense is killing me.
[08:22] <h36sa> silvaran: yep, first entry in /etc/fstab
[08:22] <pome> HappyFool: problem sorted. Thanks for your input.
[08:22] <chuckyp> Ads_, Grark i'm hunting around for a tweaking guide for you two right now
[08:22] <k31th> silvaran: scroll up my quoted  me some thing
[08:22] <k31th> ffs
[08:22] <k31th> i ment
[08:22] <MisterN> hi
[08:22] <HappyFool> pome: i see a #plone and a #zope -- maybe they can give better assistance ?
[08:22] <wastrel> bye now
[08:22] <Ads_> ompaul: ok i have written it down on a sticky note
[08:22] <k31th> u said my name in the channel
[08:22] <k31th> scroll up
[08:22] <h36sa> he's trying to talk to me
[08:22] <pome> HappyFool: thanks to you, I don't need them
[08:22] <Ads_> chuckyp: thanks a lot
[08:22] <pome> HappyFool: (they can be a bit difficult)
[08:22] <h36sa> similar stupid usernames :)
[08:22] <HappyFool> pome: heh. ok :)
[08:23] <silvaran> k31th: I don't see it.
[08:23] <ompaul> Ads_, >>sudo apt-get install bum<< to install it is the program Boot Up Manager from the menu system - administration - you need universe repos to install it
[08:23] <silvaran> h36sa: oh maybe
[08:23] <ompaul> !tell Ads_ about universe
[08:23] <ompaul> Ads_, read the info from the bot
[08:23] <thegladiator> how do I search for something in apt ?
[08:23] <Ads_> ompaul: LOL @ bum sorry being immature
[08:23] <h36sa> silvaran: so the proc entry is there..
[08:23] <thegladiator> xcompmgr
[08:23] <Ads_> ompaul it's ok i have that repos available
[08:23] <ompaul> Ads_, go to it
[08:24] <h36sa> silvaran: and I can cat /proc/filesystems
[08:24] <silvaran> k31th: Yeah I see it, sorry yeah too similar usernames... you two look like a bunch of dev nodes.
[08:24] <ompaul> thegladiator, apt-cache search KeyWord
[08:24] <h36sa> maybe udev is trying to load before /proc is mounted?
[08:24] <silvaran> h36sa: It looks like udev is trying to look at /proc/filesystems before /proc is mounted.
[08:24] <Grark> chuckyp, what about the other way, apps/services typical people DON'T need?
[08:24] <thegladiator> thank you ompaul
[08:24] <silvaran> h36sa: Hahaha yeah :)
[08:24] <h36sa> hmm
[08:24] <silvaran> h36sa: And then by the time you get to a prompt to type '/etc/init.d/udev start', /proc is mounted
[08:24] <h36sa> right
[08:24] <chuckyp> Grark, well do you have bluetooth?
[08:24] <h36sa> how do I fix it :)
[08:24] <silvaran> h36sa: somebody with more intimate knowledge of the startup scripts will have to look into it.
[08:24] <silvaran> !rc
[08:25] <ubotu> silvaran: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:25] <silvaran> !startup
[08:25] <ubotu> [startup]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingProgramToSessionStartup?highlight=%28startup%29
[08:25] <silvaran> Not that one
[08:25] <silvaran> !boot
[08:25] <ubotu> silvaran: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:25] <silvaran> ok fine we'll take it private
[08:25] <gnomefreak> !msg the bot
[08:25] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:25] <thegladiator> does any one know about xcompmgr ?
[08:25] <chuckyp> Grark, Ads_ somethings I first do is make sure hdparm is listing my hdd right with dma etc... Then I usually install a cpu specific kernel i.e. 686 k7 etc... depending on my cpu.  THen I usually get rid of services that are not needed or I don't have the hardware for.
[08:25] <thegladiator> what does it do ?
[08:26] <Tiberian> How can i know how much amount of memory i can use ? (configuring the xserver-xorg)
[08:26] <gnomefreak> Tiberian: top
[08:26] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, any idea about xcompmgr ?
[08:26] <Ads_> chuckyp: i do have dma enabled for all my drives
[08:26] <thegladiator> is it good ?
[08:26] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: no did you try apt-cache search xcompmgr?
[08:27] <Grark> hdparm...
[08:27] <Tiberian> sorry gnomefreak , but i did /clear :/
[08:27] <thegladiator> yep
[08:27] <gnomefreak> oh oops
[08:27] <gnomefreak> Tiberian: for your video card?
[08:27] <Tiberian> yes gnomefreak
[08:27] <f00f_bug> how do i change what nautilus opens different extentions with?
[08:27] <gnomefreak> Tiberian: what is the mem on the vc?
[08:27] <chuckyp> Grark, Ads_ well here's an excellent start for you guys http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=tweaking
[08:27] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul
[08:28] <silvaran> h36sa: ls /etc/rcS.d/*mountvirtfs /etc/rcS.d/*udev
[08:28] <Grark> Thank you again chuckyp for the point :)
[08:28] <Tiberian> gnomefreak,  256M
[08:28] <warthawg> is there a separate channel for ubuntu 64?
[08:28] <Ads_> chuckyp: thanks a lot i will check out the link now
[08:28] <chuckyp> ubotu, tweaking is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 for speeding up the boot process.
[08:28] <ubotu> okay, chuckyp
[08:28] <chuckyp> !tweaking
[08:28] <ubotu> hmm... tweaking is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 for speeding up the boot process.
[08:28] <gnomefreak> Tiberian: than dont go over that i would stay lil under it
[08:28] <gnomefreak> or leave it blank and let ubuntu decide
[08:29] <gnomefreak> warthawg: no this is the channel for 64 adn 32
[08:29] <h36sa> silvaran: I remember removing the mountvirtfs
[08:29] <gnomefreak> and*
[08:29] <h36sa> :)
[08:29] <warthawg> thanks, gnomefreak
[08:29] <silvaran> h36sa: baaaaaaaad
[08:29] <h36sa> it should be in rcS?
[08:29] <h36sa> what #?
[08:29] <silvaran> h36sa: (as root) cd /etc/rcS.d && ln -s ../init.d/mountvirtfs ./S01mountvirtfs
[08:30] <silvaran> h36sa: Any particular reason why you removed it?
[08:30] <warthawg> i know nothing of spinlocks or elevator writes, will i ever be able to grok 32bitness in 64bitland?
[08:30] <Ed_R> Hey, folks. Question for you all--any idea on time before GNOME 2.14 becomes apt-gettable for Breezy?
[08:30] <silvaran> warthawg: Elevator writes are public graffiti.
[08:30] <smog> Anyone have a good TCP Wrapper tutorial site?
[08:30] <silvaran> warthawg: Stick to the bathroom stalls.
[08:30] <gnomefreak> Ed_R: Ed_R not sure it will
[08:30] <warthawg> silvaran:  i like that.  consider it stolen :)
[08:30] <silvaran> heheh
[08:30] <h36sa> silvaran: I was trying to figure out why all these freakin kde services are loading at boot.. I boot into gnome and have khelper kthread ksoftirqd kblockd kacpid etc all loaded
[08:30] <gnomefreak> lil lag here :(
[08:31] <Ed_R> gnomefreak: You gotta be kidding me...not even just thrown into the repositories? I just don't want to have to remove it by hand and recompile.
[08:31] <ompaul> Ed_R, after it gets released it will be moved into dapper and should be released with dapper whenever that is some time in the next 4 to 10 weeks or thereabouts
[08:31] <silvaran> h36sa: Unfortunately, just because they start with 'k' doesn't mean they're KDE services... they could also be for the [k] ernel :)...
[08:31] <silvaran> h36sa: And technically, they're not services in the /etc/init.d sense :)
[08:31] <Ed_R> ompaul: I'm not upgrading to dapper. GNOME 2.14 has been released. Why isn't it going to be available for Breezy?
[08:31] <h36sa> haha
[08:32] <h36sa> that stuff is all kernel? damn
[08:32] <h36sa> I'm retarded
[08:32] <ompaul> Ed_R, because it 5.10 is stable and will not get new packages, only security fixes
[08:32] <Ed_R> Lovely. Dapper beta doesn't even RUN on my computer.
[08:32] <smog> How come apt-get intall nmap doesn't work?
[08:32] <silvaran> h36sa: just like migration, ksoftirqd, watchdog, events, pdflush, aio, etc. etc.
[08:32] <ompaul> !distrologic
[08:32] <ubotu> methinks distrologic is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistroLogic
[08:32] <ompaul> Ed_R, ^^^
[08:32] <warthawg> Ed_R, gnome 2.14 is not all that
[08:32] <rysiek|pl> smog: sudo apt-get install nmap :)
[08:32] <gnomefreak> smog: sudo apt-get install
[08:33] <smog> I did but it said package nmap is not available
[08:33] <rysiek|pl> gotcha! :)
[08:33] <h36sa> yeah.. I just assumed kde was taking over
[08:33] <silvaran> !info nmap
[08:33] <rysiek|pl> smog: huh?
[08:33] <h36sa> silvaran: thanks for the help
[08:33] <Ed_R> warthawg: It's better than 2.12 and less of a memory pig. My computer is generously termed shitfully old. Believe me, I need anything I can get.
[08:33] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[08:33] <silvaran> h36sa: Not a problem ;)
[08:33] <ompaul> Ed_R, it is not released if the doors fall off that is the way of the world - when stable then you move i.e. when released
[08:33] <silvaran> It's in main, should be there.
[08:33] <warthawg> Ed_R,  ack
[08:33] <h36sa> I was getting ready to reinstall freebsd :o
[08:33] <rysiek|pl> guys, how/where can I get the sources for the modules I have running?
[08:33] <silvaran> h36sa: Hahah don't go there yet ;)
[08:33] <h36sa> .. and yeah it boots again
[08:33] <h36sa> woot
[08:34] <warthawg> i never install freebsd, on the first date
[08:34] <ompaul> Ed_R, chill with the discriptive language this is a family channel :0
[08:34] <ompaul> warthawg, offtopic
[08:34] <smog> When I do a sudo apt-get install nmap I get this, "Package nmap is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:34] <smog> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:34] <smog> is only available from another source
[08:34] <smog> E: Package nmap has no installation candidate
[08:34] <smog> "
[08:34] <Ed_R> ompaul: There is NOTHING in Dapper that would push me to move save GNOME 2.14 and since it's almost a certainty that Dapper would result in a more-or-less-required reinstall, I'm very not enthusiastic about the idea.
[08:34] <gnomefreak> smog: apt-cache search nmap
[08:34] <smog> thank you
[08:34] <gnomefreak> see what the right name for it is
[08:34] <Ed_R> I did that once going to Breezy, and doing it again would be an exercise in masochism.
[08:35] <ompaul> Ed_R, what have you done to your 5.10 install that makes you think it would be required for 6.x ?
[08:35] <rysiek|pl> repeating: where can I get the sources for the modules (namely: forcedeth) I have installed and running on my (K)Ubuntu?
[08:35] <Ed_R> ompaul: I'm not looking forward to having to blam the whole thing and go through an install again. I thought I was done doing that when I ditched RedHat.
[08:35] <ompaul> Ed_R, breezy was the name of the current release before* it was released when it became 5.10
[08:36] <rysiek|pl> anybody? :)
[08:36] <ompaul> Ed_R, we have a very simple update process that works if you have not grabbed stuff from all over the interenet, please read the distro logic page
[08:37] <r3tex> what is that cool gnome app that ubuntu has that lets you configure your network called?
[08:37] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, if you enable the deb-src in sources.list you should be able to get the source
[08:37] <Grark> chuckyp, Thanks again, I'll be tweaking tonight.
[08:37] <Grark> one QUICK question, hdparm....what's the format for the device name?
[08:37] <Ed_R> ompaul: I've read distrologic already, and I *have* grabbed .debs from outside Ubuntu's repositories (frequently because they lack what I need).
[08:38] <chuckyp> Grark, np there is tons of stuff you can do that is some of the problems with using a distro like ubuntu is they have setup for most users.  Not specifically for your system.  You always have to tweak unless you go with a distro like gentoo or something with a more customizing sort of ideas.
[08:38] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: m'kay, trying, thx
[08:39] <chuckyp> Grark, if you want to find out which dev your hard drive is on you could always fdisk -l that will list them i.e. /dev/hda1 the device would be /dev/hda   the 1 is the partition number.
[08:39] <silvaran> At that runlevel config page (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491), what utility is he using in the first screenshot?
[08:39] <mackowy> hello suckers
[08:39] <silvaran> mackowy: Hey
[08:39] <mackowy> sorry
[08:39] <Tiberian> !help easyubuntu
[08:39] <dabear> Kommandoen easyubuntu fantes ikke
[08:39] <silvaran> mackowy: Shooty, shouldn't have responded to that...
[08:40] <mackowy> sorry
[08:40] <ompaul> !tell Tiberian about easyubuntu
[08:40] <Tiberian> ty :)
[08:40] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: well, I have them deb-src's, but the question is: what packages I need to install?
[08:40] <chuckyp> Grark, also there is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295 for automatix althought I don't like it.
[08:40] <Ed_R> ompaul: Is there a way to poke Synaptic so that it can find Dapper packages? I'm okay with it being unsupported so long as I can get at it.
[08:40] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, what are you looking for exactly?
[08:40] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[08:40] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[08:40] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, or better yet trying to do.
[08:40] <silvaran> nm, got it
[08:40] <gnomefreak> please dont advise people to use it
[08:40] <smog> Has anyone here succesfully installed tripwire on their ubuntu machine?
[08:40] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, I told him I don't like it.
[08:41] <chuckyp> !easyubuntu
[08:41] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[08:41] <Ed_R> gnomefreak: If there was a better way to do it, people wouldn't use Automatix; easyubuntu didn't fly for me.
[08:41] <Mabus06> how come I get a segmentation fault when trying to import a folder from my ntfs partition to rhythmbox
[08:41] <GUIPEnguin> how do I make somethign run at boot? In gentoo I would do rc-update add package default  or boot    how do you do that for /etc/init.d/ scripts in ubuntu?
[08:41] <chuckyp> Ed_R, they could just follow the wiki and read some pages.
[08:41] <ompaul> Ed_R, well when it gets in there you may be able to use backports but if you get backports badly wrong - you will need to reinstall, if you get them wrong you will wish you never heard of the word - so back up your personal data before you go playing with them
[08:42] <Grark> chuckyp, I'm doing something wrong here.
[08:42] <Ed_R> chuckyp: You're asking a lot of people. :p
[08:42] <gnomefreak> Ed_R: there is a very easy way to install anything that automatix installs
[08:42] <jjs0ah> GUIPEnguin: put your script in /etc/init.d .. add a symlink in /etc/rc2.d ,for example
[08:42] <warthawg> GUIPEnguin, .bashrc?
[08:42] <chuckyp> Ed_R, lol
[08:42] <chuckyp> Grark, how so?
[08:42] <ompaul> chuckyp, so don't say it at all thanks
[08:42] <jcole> how do i get vnc-java to work with vino? i used to use the X vnc module, but that doesn't seem to work in ubuntu
[08:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Ed_R about easysource
[08:42] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: I am trying to make WakeOnLan working in my (K)Ubuntu. I have a NForce2 chipset with an on-board NIC and found a tutorial, that worked *great* for Mandrake (man, I hate that distro!). but doesn't seem to work for (K)Ubuntu. The NIC is OK and WOL is working when I poweroff from Windoze. The *only* thing that I haven't tried from that tutorial is modifying the forcedeth.c sources.
[08:42] <Ed_R> gnomefreak: I ended up using automatix because I couldn't find the name of the packages I needed and was sick of spending time trying to solve the problem when I wanted it to Just Work.
[08:43] <h36sa> well.. now that my laptop boots again it's probably about time to upgrade to dapper, yeah?
[08:43] <warthawg> maybe
[08:43] <jjs0ah> GUIPEnguin: err. thats how to manually add scripts to run at boot. not sure what you are really after
[08:43] <GUIPEnguin> thanks
[08:43] <Grark> chuckyp, I'm trying to figure out how to see what mode i'm running the HD in...hdparm is kind of confusing to me right now...I'm logged in remote and can't really read up on it in it's entirety.
[08:43] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, Dunno much about it but your original question was about source code you could always try dpkg -reconfigure <packagename> before trying to mess with the soruce also.
[08:43] <Ed_R> ompaul: Thanks for the warning, but I think I'll risk it (and I can't upgrade to Dapper until they're mailing CDs anyway, so it's kind of moot). Any idea when that stuff will be in the apt sources?
[08:43] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: so, unless you have an idea on how to make that bloody WOL wotk without editing the forcedeth module's sources, please do tell me what do I need to D/L to get them :)
[08:43] <chuckyp> Grark, ahh
[08:43] <warthawg> so i told shuttleworth, look, dude, don't release it until it's stable, ok
[08:44] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: m'kay, thx, trying ;)
[08:44] <ribaldjester> where does email downloaded with fetchmail goto?  I set up fetchmail to test downloading gmail stuff and I have no idea where it was downloaded too
[08:44] <dv_> why isnt uade in the official rep?
[08:44] <dv_> its gpl isnt it?
[08:44] <ompaul> Ed_R, well the gnome project need to release it, then the ubuntu maintainers need to polish it and put it into dapper for testing (should not need much) and then okay - so there ya go
[08:45] <Jhair> ribaldjester: I don't know but I would be surprised if that is not described in the fetchmail man page
[08:45] <ribaldjester> Jhair good idea
[08:45] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, also for the source i'm not sure but I believe most of it would be apt-get install packagename-source
[08:45] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: damn, but you see, the problem is: I have no idea what the package might be. apt-cache search forcedethgives nothing (I suppose it's included in the main kernel sources somewhere)
[08:45] <Grark> chuckyp, if I wanted to make sure it was running in the fastest mode possible.UDMA I believe...where can I see that
[08:45] <ompaul> dv_, what are you talking about?
[08:45] <dv_> ompaul, you know uade?
[08:45] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, or something similiar if not you could always apt-cache search packagename and see whats availible.
[08:45] <gnomefreak> dv_: gpl doesnt mean that it should be in any repo
[08:46] <Ed_R> ompaul: I'd just compile the thing, if I didn't remember what happened the last time I compiled GNOME. Suffice to say I spent the next week looking for my CDs.
[08:46] <ompaul> dv_, no, what function does it provide?
[08:46] <chuckyp> Grark, you just type in sudo hdparm <devicename> i.e. /dev/hda for the primary master ide drive
[08:46] <dv_> but whats the problem with it?
[08:46] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: yeah, tried that already - as I said it gives nothing and I suppose it might just included in the main kernel sources
[08:46] <jerware> fellaz
[08:47] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, oh this isn't a package you instlaled.  Wake on lan should be a hardware function anyways and os shouldn't really matter.  Is this an onboard card?
[08:47] <ompaul> dv_, is that the emulator for amiga?
[08:47] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, is it built on to the motherboard?
[08:47] <ciga> hi
[08:47] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: I have written already - YES it is an onboard NIC
[08:47] <dv_> ompaul, similar. its the music player for amiga stuff
[08:47] <Grark> chuckyp, yes, I had gotten that far...but this confused me... (using DMA=1) that's good, but what about UDMA?
[08:47] <Grark> or is there such a thing?
[08:48] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, then just make sure in the bios that the card is set to wol then it should work rregardless of os instlaled.
[08:48] <ciga> how do I view eps files generated by photoshop? or convert them to jpg or other..
[08:48] <Seveas> eps should be viewable wit evince or ggv
[08:48] <vax_> hey gnomefreak I have now reinstalled the package menu-xdg for having a fresh "Debian" menu.. but now it is invisible, how do for reshowing it?
[08:48] <ciga> ggv?
[08:48] <ompaul> dv_, well I will say you are the first person I have ever seen to mention it, if you want to work on developing it and bringing it into ubuntu join #ubuntu-motu
[08:49] <ciga> gnome-gv
[08:49] <pome> evince has issues with pdf's from graphics apps
[08:49] <gnomefreak> vax_: restart the menu try using killall gnome-panel
[08:49] <ciga> is that what you mean?
[08:49] <pome> it doesn't do drop shadows for starters
[08:49] <chuckyp> Grark, -v would display all settings but dma=dma
[08:49] <dv_> ompaul, the thing is I dont know whats wrong with it right now :)
[08:49] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: man, read what I write :]  it works OK when I poweroff from Windoze. It worken from under Mandrake. It doesn't from under Kubuntu
[08:49] <vax_> gnomefreak, I have reboot the pc too...
[08:49] <dv_> there are morgoth's packages for it
[08:49] <Jhair> ciga: gimp claims to open eps files... (with eps=Encapsulated PostScript file)
[08:49] <vax_> need anyway too kill?
[08:49] <dv_> so the .deb's are already there
[08:49] <gnomefreak> vax_: after installing the menu have you rebooted?
[08:50] <ompaul> dv_, pop a mail onto the helpmailing list https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --- very busy ---
[08:50] <vax_> gnomefreak, yes
[08:50] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[08:50] <dv_> k
[08:50] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, well I read what you typed but wake on lan is HARDWARE BASED.  I don't understand the problem maybe but it has nothign to do with os.  I can have my pc WOL to a boot cd if I wanted to with no harddrive installed.  and change to whatever cd I wanted.  THE OS DOENS"T MATTER.
[08:50] <aeolist> hello all, how can i watch a css-protected dvd in linux?
[08:50] <vax_> chuckyp, nite
[08:51] <h36sa> libdecss
[08:51] <chuckyp> !tell aeolist about restricted
[08:51] <gnomefreak> vax_: run sudo apt-get install menu please let me know what it says
[08:51] <Grark> chuckyp, ok, thanks again take care.
[08:51] <rysiek|pl> chukyp: yes, I know. now would you just be so kind and convince my mainboard's onboard nic it's just so, and I'll be a happier man :)
[08:51] <vax_> gnomefreak, I have already installed a package called menu and menu-xdg
[08:51] <aeolist> thanks chyckyp
[08:51] <aeolist> thanks chuckyp
[08:52] <chuckyp> rysiek|pl, maybe bios update because its probably something goofy with the way you are trying to wake it or its only working intermitently etc...
[08:52] <chuckyp> anyways I need sleep have to work midnights tonight. l8r everyone
[08:52] <rysiek|pl> chuckyp: on the same box I have Kubuntu and windoze
[08:52] <rysiek|pl> ahh, whatever
[08:52] <dammit2> Hey, I got this Live Ubuntu CD(for Intel macs with EFI) off sourceforge.. it had no notes that I could download. I cant login to the dam thing cause I dont have a user name or password
[08:52] <dammit2> any idea?
[08:52] <gopi> Well I installed xawtv.... and no audio again :(
[08:52] <gnomefreak> the only other menu i have is pdmenu i installed that before menu-xdg
[08:53] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhh wait
[08:53] <gopi> Previously there was audio !!
[08:53] <gnomefreak> vax_: are you on breezy?
[08:53] <vax_> gnomefreak, , it say: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:53] <vax_> gnomefreak, yes on Breezy
[08:53] <ciga> thanks Jhair, Seveas
[08:53] <gnomefreak> vax_: you have updates running or you have synaptic open
[08:53] <vax_> gnomefreak, , ops yes, hehe sorry...
[08:53] <Seveas> [Leo] , pleasse turn of public away messages
[08:54] <Seveas> they're horribly annoying
[08:54] <gnomefreak> vax_: in systemtools you should see menu editor you can add debian menu after installing the package in there
[08:54] <vax_> gnomefreak, it say the package menu is installed.
[08:54] <gnomefreak> ^^^ vax_
[08:54] <[Leo] > Seveas: ok, i'm sorry...
[08:54] <Mike-_-> anyone here cracked a sony vaio eeprom password ?
[08:54] <Mabus06> Now give him 50 pushups!
[08:54] <h36sa> dapper will work with a breezy-compiled kernel right?
[08:54] <vax_> gnomefreak, I've try but it dont allow me to select
[08:54] <Seveas> h36sa, not ikely
[08:54] <st3v3dnd> Hi all, does 5.10 come with a graphical iptables tool?
[08:55] <Seveas> st3v3dnd, firestarter
[08:55] <h36sa> Seveas: uh.. why
[08:55] <gnomefreak> vax_: than log out log back in if its still not there let me know
[08:55] <Mabus06> Seveas: but it's not installed by default is it?
[08:55] <Seveas> h36sa, udev/hotplug madness
[08:55] <natroll-> st3v3dnd, i think lokkit is another one
[08:55] <Seveas> Mabus06, correct
[08:55] <st3v3dnd> Seveas, is it in one of the menus or do I just need to run?
[08:55] <h36sa> crap
[08:55] <GUIPEnguin> I have worked with linux a long time.. now my question is.. how would having no accessable root account be more secure? and using sudo insted? Your Always login as a normal user anways... and lets say something somehow figures out your password for ssh, or somethign else.. thats just 1 less password they dont need to know to gain root
[08:55] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, does anybody know about changes to gconf in Breezy? Specifically, after I upgraded from Hoary to Breezy on the school network I run, I can't go gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory anymore. It refuses to make any changes.
[08:55] <Mabus06> st3v3dnd: it's in the repos
[08:55] <vax_> ok
[08:56] <Seveas> st3v3dnd, you need to install it
[08:56] <gnomefreak> st3v3dnd: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[08:56] <pauldaoust> Or perhaps Sabayon changes stuff?
[08:56] <Tiberian> it is suposed to get errors with EasyUbuntu ? o_0
[08:56] <st3v3dnd> cool, thanks guys
[08:56] <_jason> Tiberian: not /supposed/ to
[08:57] <pauldaoust> or let me ask this: does anyone have any experience with Sabayon and gconf?
[08:57] <h36sa> Seveas: do you know if the p4_clockmod bug that keeps p4's over 2ghz is removed in the dapper kernel?
[08:57] <raboof> hmm, looks like the flight5 livecd is much improved compared to the 5.10 one - but it no longer autodetects the ethernet card in my powermac g3
[08:57] <Seveas> h36sa, #ubuntu-kernel would know
[08:57] <Tiberian> what evr it's spelled :P, if it's not supposed to get any, why i'm getting errors? :/
[08:58] <raboof> can i debug/report that somewhere?
[08:58] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[08:58] <linuxboyfriend> how can i remove ubuntu games
[08:58] <vax_> gnomefreak, nothing to do, I showing it in menu editor but don't allow me to select the checkbox
[08:58] <_jason> Tiberian: I wasn't going for the spelling just saying you aren't supposed to get them but it is possible.  Put them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and what version are you using?
[08:58] <Mike-_-> linuxboyfriend, u can do it in deselect
[08:58] <gnomefreak> vax_: why did you uninstall it if you were adding right back?
[08:58] <Tiberian> oh.. sorry _jason , my fault :/
[08:58] <Mike-_-> dselect*
[08:58] <rysiek|pl> guys, if I install the kernel-sources-$( uname -r ) package, will I get the modules' sources too?
[08:58] <paganini> linuxboyfriend: sudo apt-get remove gnome-games
[08:58] <GUIPEnguin> or does it make it more secure but forcing noobs not to login as root to begin with?
[08:59] <vax_> gnomefreak, because I showing the icon of uninstalled programs and much cloned icons
[08:59] <Mabus06> where are the logs relating to ssh?
[08:59] <vax_> gnomefreak, just ununstall for a fresh and clean menu
[08:59] <Mabus06> To see who has (un)successfully logged in
[08:59] <ribaldjester> where is the default mail location for ubuntu?
[08:59] <jjs0ah> GUIPEnguin: have you ever rmed your entire etc dir without a backup? man i did that when i was a newb. i did everything in root. bad news
[08:59] <_jason> Mabus06: /var/log/auth.log has auth logs for ssh
[08:59] <gnomefreak> vax_: it may have something to do with what it removed with it the 2 apps you gave me had nothing to do with it but thats it
[08:59] <paganini> Does anyone know how to allow app windows to cover the GNOME panel?
[08:59] <linuxboyfriend> paganini: but it is also asking to remove gnome and gnome-desktop and i only wanna remove games?
[09:00] <aeolist> hello all, how can i watch a css-protected dvd in linux? i read the guide about restricted formats, but still gxine refuses to play the dvd
[09:00] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: the games come with gnome
[09:00] <paganini> linuxboyfriend: gnome-desktop is ad ummy package
[09:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell aeolist about dvd
[09:00] <gopi> I had the same problem before with xawtv.... no audio but video alone.... and after a day or two automatically I was able to hear audio also.... And now after reinstalling Ubuntu...the same problem... Plz help me
[09:00] <gnomefreak> to remove games you remove gnome
[09:00] <paganini> linuxboyfriend: I think gnome also is
[09:00] <Zoroaster> what command do I run to see what services are runnning
[09:00] <vax_> gnomefreak, Ok :) Thanks you very much
[09:00] <vax_> I try later again
[09:00] <paganini> linuxboyfriend: but you should check to make sure first
[09:00] <paganini> :)
[09:00] <h36sa> Zoroaster: ps -awx or top
[09:00] <linuxboyfriend> paganini: but i dont wanna remove gnome
[09:01] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: if you dont like seeing them use the menu editor and uncheck them
[09:01] <vax_> gnomefreak, have nice day
[09:01] <gnomefreak> or uncheck games for that matter
[09:01] <aeolist> _jason, i already have libdvdcss2
[09:01] <vax_> good bye all
[09:01] <gnomefreak> you too vax_
[09:01] <_jason> aeolist: did you restart gxine?
[09:01] <Tiberian> _jason, u can see here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10415
[09:02] <paganini> linuxboyfriend: removing the gnome package won't remove the gnome environment.
[09:02] <paganini> linuxboyfriend: I don't even have the gnome package installed
[09:02] <Mabus06> how come I can't open gedit from the terminal?
[09:02] <Zoroaster> h36sa, thanks
[09:02] <Mabus06> (gedit:7033): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:02] <ubersolid> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop :)
[09:02] <dammit2> Hey, I got this Live Ubuntu CD(for Intel macs with EFI) off sourceforge.. it had no notes that I could download. I cant login to the dam thing cause I dont have a user name or password.. The user name is mactel
[09:02] <paganini> gnome and gnome-desktop are dependency packages. You use them to install a bunch of apps at once. Removing doesn't remove any actual software.
[09:02] <dammit2> anyne know or have notes?
[09:02] <GUIPEnguin> jjs0ah: no because I have never found a reason to login directly as root when I could just su etc....  so basicly ubuntu having a sudoers file and a non-root user is to protect linux users as a whole from their selves? because system wide it is no more secure.. more so less secure sometimes if someone figures out 1 password of yours and doesnt need a root password
[09:03] <_jason> Tiberian: hrmm try asking in #easyubuntu
[09:03] <aeolist> _jason, yes i did restart gxine
[09:03] <Felix15> hey is it possible to set each workspace with a different background image?
[09:03] <_jason> Tiberian: I don't think those are really errors but they would know better
[09:03] <aeolist> _jason, i still get the "faulty or protected dvd"... it sure aint faulty though
[09:03] <Mike-_-> i have a wlan card but it seems to be off, sort of speak, vaio laptop, how can i turn it on?
[09:03] <gopi> Is it possible to get tvtime via package ????
[09:03] <jjs0ah> GUIPEnguin: i am guessing it is to protect users from themselves. but you are right. it is no more or less secure
[09:04] <Tiberian> Ok thanks _jason
[09:04] <_jason> aeolist: how did you install libdvdcss2?
[09:04] <Mike-_-> pcmcia wlan card
[09:04] <nickrud> gopi, apt-cache search tvtime
[09:04] <ubersolid> does anybody know the apt repo for enlightenment dr17? I've lost it :(
[09:04] <linuxboyfriend> paganini: if removing gnome package does not disturb gnome environment then whats in the gnome package?
[09:04] <h36sa> ubersolid: http://soulmachine.net/breezy unstable/
[09:05] <paganini> linuxboyfriend: nothing is in the gnome package
[09:05] <jjs0ah> GUIPEnguin: if you want a root user though, its easy to enable. sudo su -... then change the password
[09:05] <Mike-_-> how do i activate a pcmcia wlan card ?
[09:05] <paganini> It's a dummy package that depends on many things
[09:05] <paganini> So when you install it, it installs many things
[09:05] <ubersolid> h36sa, tried that 1 :) it out of date, badly.
[09:05] <paganini> But nothing depends on *it*
[09:05] <paganini> So when you uninstall it, nothing uninstalls
[09:05] <h36sa> ubersolid: let me warn you that it's from like september
[09:05] <h36sa> ubersolid: is there a newer one? :)
[09:06] <aldous> Hi, I have a streaming media issue.
[09:06] <aeolist> _jason, the usual way :P i had 1.2.5 from some repository and i dpkg -i it
[09:06] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: gnome-core is what gives you the gnome de
[09:06] <gnomefreak> and its depends
[09:06] <ubersolid> h36sa: I had a (something).technatica.(somthing) wich was recent enough but i can't find it anymore
[09:07] <_jason> aeolist: don't know, did you try a different player than totem-xine?
[09:07] <Pretto> n esse? gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[09:07] <_jason> Pretto: what?
[09:07] <raboof>   n
[09:08] <aldous> When I am running mplayer's plugin, streaming media comes in choppy
[09:08] <_satans_ny> anyone here run ubuntu with fluxbox? i do :)
[09:08] <_jason> aldous: cache more
[09:08] <gnomefreak> _satans_ny: yeah i have it sometimes use it
[09:08] <obli> ok, how do I disable ctrl-x closing windows? It's the most annoying thing ever
[09:08] <mdmkolb1> How do I connect to a VPN (IPSec prefered but PPTP might work)?
[09:08] <benplaut> _salavas: E17... i have spoken. -_-
[09:08] <ubersolid> h36sa: deb http://enlightenment.technatica.net/breezy
[09:08] <_satans_ny> gnomefreak: i am thinking of making a live cd. fluxbuntu hehhe
[09:09] <aldous> Okay.. I'll try that.  I did crank it up but I think because I didn't restart the stream it didn't help
[09:09] <paganini> _satans_ny: you know about nubuntu
[09:09] <paganini> ?
[09:09] <aldous> thank you!
[09:09] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, using gconftool-2 --direct used to work for modifying mandatory settings, but now it doesn't change a bloody thing! any ideas? the only changes I've made are upgrading from hoary to breezy, and installing Sabayon
[09:09] <h36sa> ubersolid: nice.. is there one for dapper?
[09:09] <aeolist> _jason, i am trying gxine
[09:09] <ubersolid> h36sa: I don't know, since I'm using breezy :) could u kindly tell me how to install the public.key? :)
[09:09] <aeolist> _jason, let me try totem-xien
[09:10] <Ads_> Guys, I'm having a problem running games such as tuxckart and quake2 etc, they just crash after trying to display any gfx :(
[09:10] <pauldaoust> Ads_: what sort of graphic card do you have?
[09:10] <h36sa> Ads_: try glxgears info
[09:11] <yggdrasil> sorry dumbquestion how do i tar upa folder ?
[09:11] <_satans_ny> paganini: ye. but that's like a light version of BackTrack
[09:11] <nickrud> ubersolid, thanks :)
[09:11] <Ads_> geforce 68000
[09:11] <_satans_ny> an own livecd would be really cool. :)
[09:11] <Ads_> 6800*
[09:11] <h36sa> Ads_: I have the same card, works well
[09:11] <pauldaoust> Ads_: have you installed the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx packages?
[09:11] <Ads_> paulaoust: yes i have
[09:11] <youBun2> GnomeBaker is such a great app
[09:11] <youBun2> I blank a CD-RW and it fails everytime!
[09:11] <polpak> Ads_, what is the output of glxinfo | grep direct
[09:11] <gnomefreak> Ads_: what does glxgears -printfps give you in way of fps readings
[09:12] <paganini> Hah
[09:12] <paganini> Cool
[09:12] <Seveas> !help
[09:12] <dabear> Alle kommandoer starter med !.Tilgjengelige kommandoer: google, help, uptime, nwf
[09:12] <andrewf66> yggdrassil - something like tar cvf tarname foldername
[09:12] <pauldaoust> yggdrasil: tar -cvf yourtarfile.tar yourfolder/
[09:12] <youBun2> -_-
[09:13] <Ads_> gomefreak: i get 133
[09:13] <azadder> search function for files?
[09:13] <pauldaoust> yggdrasil: typing man tar will give you a few good examples of what to do with tar. at any rate, tarfile is specified first, then the files you want to put in that file
[09:13] <yggdrasil> ok thanks
[09:13] <yggdrasil> that worked greaty
[09:13] <yggdrasil> im writing it down haha
[09:13] <yggdrasil> i feel so retarted
[09:13] <gopi> How to install bttv driver please ?
[09:13] <pauldaoust> yggdrasil: no prob; we were all there once.
[09:13] <_jason> youBun2: try k3b
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Ads_: than its not working in 3d did you install nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx?
[09:13] <youBun2> ok
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Ads_: also what version of ubuntu?
[09:13] <Ads_> gnomefreak: i sure did
[09:14] <Ads_> gnomefreak: it's breezy
[09:14] <_satans_ny> paganini: my own livecd will have fluxbox and xgl. xgl is flippin' sweet
[09:14] <ubersolid> e17 19 feb : deb http://enlightenment.technatica.net/ breezy/ need to install public.key, please tell me how :D ?
[09:14] <paganini> Doesn't anyone remember being able to put windows over the GNOME panel?
[09:14] <paganini> Hehe
[09:14] <paganini> XGL
[09:14] <paganini> Woot
[09:14] <paganini> Slows things down, but looks really cool.
[09:14] <gnomefreak> Ads_: did you run the enable command?
[09:14] <h36sa> paganini: how's the performance
[09:15] <h36sa> ahh
[09:15] <Ads_> gnomefreak: yes
[09:15] <gopi> How to install bttv driver please ?
[09:15] <h36sa> Ads_: you odn't have glx extensions working
[09:15] <paganini> h36sa: it actually wasn't that bad, except that it took *really* long to load. Also, it caused some screen artifacts, like smearing in XCHAT when I would scroll through the buffer.
[09:15] <gopi> Is bttv by default installed in Ubuntu ?
[09:15] <h36sa> you should get like 7000 in the windowed size
[09:15] <[u] Ra> why is that everything so slow in ubuntu? comparing to Windows XP :(
[09:15] <NsOmNiAc> has anyone here used Automatix?
[09:15] <gnomefreak> Ads_: did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg and make sure your seeing right card and nvidia drivers?
[09:16] <h36sa> [u] Ra: just is
[09:16] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[09:16] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[09:16] <ubersolid> nsomniac, I've tried it
[09:16] <gopi> !bttv
[09:16] <ubotu> gopi: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:16] <paganini> [u] Ra: next version of GNOME should be faster.
[09:16] <h36sa> [u] Ra: but you can do way more stuff at the same time so it's more efficient
[09:16] <bimberi> gopi: the module is there yes, 'sudo modprobe bttv'
[09:16] <Ads_> gnomefreak: yes xorg is setup correctly i went through it again recently with no problems, everything seems fine
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell NsOmNiAc about easyubuntu
[09:16] <gopi> bimberi: oh i see.. how to install then ?
[09:16] <[u] Ra> h36sa,  exactly in this particular way I get worse results than in XP
[09:17] <gnomefreak> Ads_: than i would say reboot if everything is installed and set up right you should have it (is the card good?)
[09:17] <[u] Ra> it's slower solvine several problems at the same time
[09:17] <NsOmNiAc> thanks gnomefreak I don't need it was just wondering if it were any good
[09:17] <h36sa> [u] Ra: doubtful
[09:17] <[u] Ra> solving*
[09:17] <bimberi> gopi: 'sudo modprobe bttv'
[09:17] <h36sa> windows is unusable under load :)
[09:17] <gopi> bimberi: I did
[09:17] <Ads_> gnomefreak: yes the card is good i hope i am going to reboot now..i'll be right back
[09:17] <bimberi> gopi: check its presence with 'lsmod | grep bttv'
[09:18] <paganini> [u] Ra: Also, kubuntu is faster, if you don't want to wait
[09:18] <[u] Ra> well, I could switch between applications like Firefox in XP and let say mIRC way faster, clicking and getting desktop properties in the same way
[09:18] <[u] Ra> so is that gnome's break?
[09:18] <h36sa> [u] Ra: yeah but that's not really a load
[09:18] <h36sa> I mean compiling stuff/encoding dvds/whatever.. ubuntu should be much more responsive while doing that stuff
[09:18] <Tiberian> what is better? Ubuntu or Kubuntu? just a Random thought o0
[09:18] <gopi> bimberi: It showed a list ...
[09:19] <h36sa> but yeah, on an idle system (just irc/browser) winxp is going to be faster
[09:19] <paganini> Tiberian: Hard to say. Kubuntu runs faster on my system and has pretty colors. But the GNOME apps in ubuntu are better in my opinion.
[09:19] <silvaran> Tiberian: It's a matter of personal preference.
[09:19] <bimberi> gopi: that indicates that it is loaded
[09:19] <[u] Ra> well, what I noticed in monitoring tool there is a big load of RAM, I've dedicated 700 for swap, but still now it takes 70% of my ram for applications running, in XP it was only 50
[09:19] <[u] Ra> :P
[09:19] <silvaran> [u] Ra: Where are you getting the memory usage information?
[09:20] <h36sa> [u] Ra: that's a good thing :)
[09:20] <h36sa> linux can actually make use of your ram..
[09:20] <Tiberian> I see... but they are the same? (almost)
[09:20] <batman> hello can someone tell me why my sound settings go back to default after i close the alsa mixer when i set it myself?
[09:20] <h36sa> having a bunch of free ram (instead of caches and buffers) is pointless
[09:20] <silvaran> batman: I think it's a bug, I get it too (occasionally)
[09:20] <[u] Ra> silvaran, it's a system Monitor
[09:20] <Tiberian> i mean, w/ Ubuntu i have problems with my Video cart, will i have with kubuntu too ?
[09:20] <azadder> is there a search function for files on my system?
[09:20] <batman> silvaran, it happens to me all the time :(
[09:20] <paganini> Tiberian: kubuntu has different applications - it uses KONQUEROR for browsing the net and filesystem, KONVERSATION for IRC, KOPETE for instant messaging, ADEPT for package management, etc.
[09:20] <silvaran> [u] Ra: try jumping to a shell and typing "free"... look at the line that says "+/- buffers/cache" -- that'll give you the real memory usage.
[09:21] <paganini> Tiberian: but the underlying system is the same.
[09:21] <paganini> Tiberian: they use the same repositories, and so on
[09:21] <[u] Ra> h36sa,  you say it's better when it completely owns resources but sharing it between application in the best way?
[09:21] <Tiberian> i see... so i will have problems with kubuntu too...
[09:21] <h36sa> [u] Ra: uh what?
[09:21] <Tiberian> well, thanks paganini :)
[09:22] <paganini> Tiberian: Probably. They are not different linuxes; just different desktops.
[09:22] <h36sa> I'm saying that it's a good thing to be using your ram
[09:22] <batman> does anyone know of a way to set the sound card default settings and keep them that way?
[09:22] <paganini> Tiberian: No problem. :)
[09:22] <silvaran> Tiberian: ubuntu/kubuntu both run on top of X, which is the real guy responsible for the video stuff.
[09:22] <aeolist> _jason, nothing new with totem-xine
[09:22] <h36sa> ram is much faster than a disk
[09:22] <h36sa> batman: alsactl store
[09:22] <paganini> Tiberian: what kind of video card to you have, anyway?
[09:22] <mwe> Tiberian: maybe you can fix your video problems
[09:22] <batman> h36sa, in the terminal?
[09:22] <h36sa> yeah
[09:22] <Tiberian> paganini, ATi Radeon 9200
[09:23] <h36sa> probably sudo alsactl restore   actually
[09:23] <[u] Ra> silvaran, I did it and I'm a little bit shocked :D
[09:23] <batman> h36sa, is that after i set it with the gui alsa mixer?
[09:23] <[u] Ra> Mem:        255276     250684       4592 - the last one is free
[09:23] <Tiberian> mwe, how? :P
[09:23] <mwe> Tiberian: afaik it should be possible to get 3d acceleration with that card
[09:23] <h36sa> batman: yeah
[09:23] <silvaran> [u] Ra: What's the second line say?
[09:23] <mwe> !ati
[09:23] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:23] <h36sa> Tiberian: you can use the ati driver with that
[09:23] <_jason> aeolist: I would try other disks to make sure it's not the disk, other than that try asking the channel again
[09:24] <[u] Ra> silvaran,  -/+ buffers/cache:     207832      47444
[09:24] <aeolist> _jason, i already did that, it's not the disk
[09:24] <aeolist> baah!
[09:24] <Tiberian> h36sa, i did d/l the ati drivers with easyubuntu.. sot sure but i get some errors :/
[09:24] <silvaran> [u] Ra: You only have 256MB of ram?
[09:24] <azadder> is there an app that will let me search my system fo files?
[09:24] <mwe> Tiberian: read what ubotu pointed at. it should tell you how to make it work
[09:24] <h36sa> and actually, the ati driver started working for my M7 7500 (used to need the radeon driver)
[09:24] <[u] Ra> silvaran, yes
[09:24] <paganini> silvaran: *I* only have 256MB of ram, and ubuntu is running fine.
[09:24] <h36sa> [u] Ra: you should kill some services
[09:24] <Tiberian> mwe, i'll try.. thanks :)))
[09:25] <silvaran> paganini: My point was I mis-read one of his earlier posts :)
[09:25] <gnomefreak> azadder: places>search for files
[09:25] <Ads_> gnomefreak: you still here?
[09:25] <GUIPEnguin> im trying to get my resolution set to 1920x1200  I have /etc/X11/xorg.config open and I dont see any modelines for the modes set... yeah "1280x1024" is nice for a human but unless it matches to a set modeline it is usless... is there any ubuntu "setup" you can run agan? because normaly in gentoo I would just use xorgconfig utility
[09:25] <gopi> WEll plz help me... Sound is still not working in xawtv :(
[09:25] <gnomefreak> yep
[09:25] <paganini> silvaran: Aha. I must have also misread; I missed that. ;)
[09:25] <h36sa> my laptop is using 128mb (of 512) and it's doing a dist-upgrade and using firefox
[09:25] <Ads_> gnomefreak: i've noticed my cpu jumps to 100% when i run glxgears
[09:25] <h36sa> GUIPEnguin: I've got my laptop running at that
[09:26] <aeolist> hello all, i cant watcha css protected dvd. i have already installed libdvdcss2, tried other programs and other disks on the puter, any ideas?
[09:26] <h36sa> 1 sec I'll get you the line
[09:26] <conn> hi, can someone tell what program to use to record a video of my desktop?
[09:26] <Tempest2k>  anybody no why my xgl sweems to crash my server when i reboot or restart gdm , i get black and white squares and system just hangs
[09:26] <GUIPEnguin> k thanks
[09:26] <richard> which program can i use to burn cd's and dvd's?
[09:26] <gnomefreak> Ads_: how much memory do you have?
[09:26] <mwe> h36sa: free -m is saying the system is just using 128 MB ?
[09:26] <aeolist> richard, k3b, gnomebaker, cdrdao
[09:26] <edan> how do i chek if i have a multiprocessor system and how do i enable "Symmetric multi-processing support" (SMP) without recompiling my kernel??
[09:26] <[u] Ra> h36sa, can I kill them from System Monitor?
[09:26] <Ads_> gnomefreak: 256mb
[09:26] <gnomefreak> and Ads_ how much memory did you tell xorg to use for vc?
[09:26] <DaviX> hey, I am currently logd as root in a friend's pc (running ubuntu) and he claims since last reboot his screen resolution is 640-480 and he can't change it from X, how can I update it from the terminal? (I tried altering xorg.conf yet everything is still viewed big for him)
[09:26] <paganini> HEhe, I have 7MB free memory
[09:27] <h36sa> mwe: haha no.. without buffers and cache
[09:27] <silvaran> edan: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'processor'
[09:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell DaviX about fixres
[09:27] <silvaran> edan: How many lines does that print?
[09:27] <mwe> h36sa: yeah
[09:27] <edan> Silencer, just 1 sec
[09:27] <Ads_> gnomefreak: i specified 128 the amount on my card
[09:27] <richard> aeolist: i use gnomebaker but it show me an error for that reason i will try with k3b ... thank you
[09:27] <DaviX> thanks _jason
[09:28] <edan> Silencer, just 1
[09:28] <gnomefreak> Ads_: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and leave the memory for vc blank
[09:28] <sgrgc> #help
[09:28] <[u] Ra> how can Firefox take 139 MB of ram? by System Monitor
[09:28] <silvaran> edan: Then you have 1 CPU :)
[09:28] <mwe> h36sa: but it makes sense not to count the cache. it will always be almos full after a while of application switching anyway :)
[09:28] <[u] Ra> it's embarrasing
[09:28] <edan> ooo :)
[09:28] <h36sa> GUIPEnguin: Modeline "1920x1200" 161.750000 1920 2020 2052 2184 1200 1202 1208 1235 -HSync -VSync
[09:28] <Ads_> gnomefreak: ok i will give it a try
[09:28] <edan> thnx
[09:28] <GUIPEnguin> thanks
[09:28] <h36sa> mwe: that was my whole point to [u] Ra about using ram being a good thing
[09:28] <punkrockguy318> Is there anyway to log out of gnome through the command line?
[09:28] <batman> h36sa, that still didn't save my custom settings for me :S
[09:29] <h36sa> but he actually needs more ram or to run less stuff cause he only has 40 megs for buffers/cache/free
[09:29] <mwe> h36sa: I missed that
[09:29] <thomas_> hello
[09:29] <paganini> punkrockguy318: ctrl + alt + backspace will kill your X server
[09:29] <benplaut> Seveas: ?
[09:29] <thomas_> i got ubuntu dapper drake on! now i need a bit of help gettin 3d acceleration on
[09:29] <Seveas> benplaut, ?
[09:29] <thomas_> had to use bios defaults to get the install to go
[09:29] <h36sa> batman: that's how you do it in gentoo at least.. maybe do alsamixer then alsactl store afterwards
[09:29] <benplaut> what were all the ban removals for?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> thomas_: dapper should be in #ubuntu+1
[09:29] <paganini> punkrockguy318: ctrl + shift + F(x) will drop you into terminal mode without killing your X server, I believe.
[09:29] <thomas_> k thx
[09:30] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:30] <Seveas> benplaut, for removing bans...
[09:30] <h36sa> batman: you also need to set your box up to run alsactl restore when you want them set..
[09:30] <silvaran> benplaut: fun
[09:30] <gnomefreak> spring cleaning Seveas ?
[09:30] <punkrockguy318> paganini: yes, you are right.. but how can I logout of gnome completely?
[09:30] <benplaut> -_-
[09:31] <Seveas> gnomefreak, no, just a few of the older bans
[09:31] <paganini> punkrockguy318: At the login screen when you first login, or after you kill the X-Server, there should be a little menu where you can selet your session. One of the options is a terminal login.
[09:31] <gnomefreak> ah
[09:31] <paganini> At least, on my system it is.
[09:32] <azadder> amule says that the directory path to one of the files I downloaded is : /home/doug/.xMule/incoming  but I can't seem to get to that directory because it doesn't exist
[09:32] <azadder> any ideas?
[09:32] <h36sa> [u] Ra: what are you running that's using 200mb?
[09:32] <jbrouhard> Hey.. is there a reason why, after running totem, i get kded crashes all the time ?
[09:32] <h36sa> openoffice or something big?
[09:32] <jbrouhard> so far, i've had 25 popups...
[09:32] <ompaul> gnomefreak, really its part of his plan to take over the world :-) {not sure how that works though}
[09:32] <h36sa> jbrouhard: totem is a piece of shit
[09:32] <antifuchs> hi, everyone.
[09:32] <jbrouhard> Well, that's obvious
[09:32] <gnomefreak> ;)
[09:32] <Healot> hell no... not totem-xine :)
[09:32] <h36sa> I've still yet to have it play a piece of media successfully
[09:32] <ompaul> h36sa, language please
[09:32] <jbrouhard> but why would toten crashing cause kded to crash too ?
[09:32] <punkrockguy318> paganini: yes, this is true.. But here's my scenario... I'm logged into a gnome session.  I would like to logout by typing a command in the terminal
[09:33] <h36sa> jbrouhard: see about comment
[09:33] <Tempest2k> mplayert worked for me
[09:33] <h36sa> you should get mplayer
[09:33] <Tempest2k> mplayer worked for me
[09:33] <DaviX> _jason still big mate
[09:33] <paganini> punkrockguy318: Hmm
[09:33] <jbrouhard> uhm...
[09:33] <h36sa> nah totem is default for kde
[09:33] <jke> Is there a channel for dapper, or are this one used for dapper-talk?
[09:34] <gnomefreak> jke: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[09:34] <_jason> DaviX: you ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the new resolution with space bar then rpessed enter?
[09:34] <Healot> gnomefreak, it does... but not the media part, jsut the UI part
[09:34] <dReadMoRe> it's possible to create a persistent hdd partition as knoppix do, running ubuntu, without installing it!?
[09:34] <jbrouhard> doesn't explain why kded is crashing...
[09:34] <DaviX> _jason sure did, followed the manual step by step
[09:34] <jbrouhard> any suggestions on how to fix it?
[09:34] <jbrouhard> i'm running apt-get upgrade right now..
[09:34] <h36sa> jbrouhard: avoid totem :)
[09:34] <jke> gnomefreak: thanks
[09:35] <gnomefreak> Healot: yeah so toem itsself shouldnt have anything to do with kde crash that would be a media thing
[09:35] <jbrouhard> *sigh*
[09:35] <jbrouhard> that's not a fix
[09:35] <_jason> DaviX: hrmm that usualy works...try asking the channel again and include that that didn't work
[09:35] <Mnemic> Guys, how can i know my Kernels version ?
[09:35] <jbrouhard> i'm up to 50 crash windows.. all on kded.. how can I stop that?
[09:35] <h36sa> lol, you can buy $399 laptops at frys now
[09:35] <gnomefreak> Mnemic: uname -r
[09:35] <_jason> Mnemic: uname -r
[09:35] <DaviX> ok thanks _jind
[09:35] <DaviX> jason even
[09:35] <ubersolid> g'night everybody!
[09:35] <Mnemic> ty both :)
[09:35] <Healot> wth are you talking about, gnomefreak ?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> jbrouhard: use gnome see if it does same thing?
[09:35] <ron_> mnemic uname -a works great
[09:35] <jbrouhard> Uh...
[09:35] <jbrouhard> Gnome doesn't use kded
[09:35] <youBun2> holy god
[09:36] <youBun2> does nothing on ubuntu work
[09:36] <gnomefreak> jbrouhard: either does totem
[09:36] <[u] Ra> h36sa, firefox is using 139 mb:P perhaps it because my browser wasn't upgraded with all applications in autoupdate
[09:36] <youBun2> k3b is unable to erase my cdrw
[09:36] <batman> silvaran, i figured out what kept reseting my sound settings its every time i open a music application ex: xmms
[09:36] <youBun2> jesus christ
[09:36] <ron_> anyone had anyluck with fglrx?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> youBun2: language
[09:36] <h36sa> [u] Ra: lots of tabs or something?
[09:36] <emanuelez> anybody experiencing sound problems with dapper after a recent apt-get update?
[09:36] <Mnemic> i guess i need != 386 kernel as i use AMD ... am i corect ?
[09:36] <youBun2> with all due respect, jesus christ is the name of the messiah in some religions
[09:36] <_jason> youBun2: are you able to burn cd's?
[09:36] <h36sa> Mnemic: no
[09:36] <[u] Ra> h36sa,  not really, 7
[09:37] <Falstius> Mnemic: i386 will work .. k8 will work better.
[09:37] <bimberi> emanuelez: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[09:37] <gnomefreak> emanuelez: no but ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:37] <youBun2> how does that constitute 'laungage' on the same level as the f-word?
[09:37] <Healot> Mnemic, AMD CPU are x86, thus 386 does fine
[09:37] <paganini> punkrockguy318: So, just switching to terminal mode and killing the x server won't work for you?
[09:37] <youBun2> _jason: no
[09:37] <h36sa> [u] Ra: firefox caches websites you've visited on each tab for like the last 10 pages.. so that could be what's using your memory
[09:37] <Falstius> youBun2: depending on your beliefs its worse.
[09:37] <emanuelez> bimberi: thx... i was looking for "dapper" in the channel list... sorry
[09:37] <batman> h36sa, do you have to do the alsactl restore every time you open up a music player ex: xmms, mplayer?
[09:37] <bimberi> emanuelez: np :)
[09:37] <gnomefreak> youBun2: that is blaspheming to some people
[09:37] <Healot> ubuntu+1. emanuelez
[09:37] <_jason> youBun2: paste the output of the 'groups' command
[09:37] <Mnemic> Healot, so... 386 will work too.. but maybe it's better K7 ?
[09:37] <void^> firefox devours memory
[09:37] <Healot> yes...
[09:37] <[u] Ra> btw. how should I update my applications like Firefox here? should I download all from official site and compile it or there is some package system or port system upgrade available?
[09:37] <ron__> Can't chdir(klibido-0.2.3): No such file or directory at (eval 1) line 3 <--??
[09:38] <h36sa> I'd recommend spending $20 and getting another 256M or try killing some other stuff you need, maybe run xfce or e16 or something instead of kde
[09:38] <Healot> better, a lot better
[09:38] <gnomefreak> void^: what else is new lol
[09:38] <Mnemic> Ty Healot  :>
[09:38] <h36sa> batman: no, just after you boot
[09:38] <dyggMerald> anyone here with experience of running a Playstation emulator on breezy
[09:38] <mwe> !ff15
[09:38] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mwe
[09:38] <batman> h36sa, well i have to every time i do >.<
[09:38] <bimberi> ubotu tell [u] Ra  about ff1.5
[09:38] <mwe> !firefox15
[09:38] <ubotu> from memory, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[09:38] <youBun2> well either way jesus christ is the name of a man from long ago
[09:38] <youBun2> back on topic
[09:38] <dReadMoRe> it's possible to create a persistent hdd partition as knoppix do, running ubuntu, without installing it!?
[09:38] <youBun2> K3b has now froze and will nto close -_-
[09:38] <[u] Ra> h36sa, yeah probably, because by mistake I pushed a folder in links and got like 20 tabs in a row
[09:39] <LazyAngel> is there something wrong with the respsitory servers?
[09:39] <h36sa> haha
[09:39] <gnomefreak> LazyAngel: what one?
[09:39] <Falstius> youBun2: are you running kubuntu or gnome?  I don't really know how to help you, just curious.
[09:39] <[u] Ra> ;] 
[09:39] <paganini> LazyAngel, doesn't seem to be
[09:39] <youBun2> Ubuntu
[09:39] <LazyAngel> gnomefreak: archive.ubuntu.com
[09:39] <youBun2> which i would guess is Gnome
[09:39] <gnomefreak> LazyAngel: no they are working fine
[09:39] <gnomefreak> here atleast
[09:39] <h36sa> [u] Ra: try rebooting, opening firefox to google (just 1 tab) and check your memory usage (+/- buffers/cache) .. if you've got less than like 100mb free you should get more ram probably
[09:40] <youBun2> I have high hopes for Ubuntu but simple tasks such as running a DVD and burning a DVD-RW etc. are just tedious
[09:40] <batman> has anyone here succesfully installed quake 3 on ubuntu?
[09:40] <Falstius> youBun2: yes ... I remember there were all kinds of trouble with k3b back in the olden days (its a kde app) ... maybe try gnome baker.  Or find someone here who uses k3b.
[09:40] <h36sa> batman: copy a windows install over and it'll work
[09:40] <LazyAngel> gnomefreak: ohh... i just had to press "reload" :D
[09:40] <batman> h36sa, i tried
[09:40] <Nefass> LKRaider, eu achei um site
[09:40] <paganini> youBun2: did you read the Restricted Formats page on the wiki? That worked fine for me
[09:40] <Nefass> Kubuntu-BR.Org
[09:40] <youBun2> Heh, I think I will just slam the disc in my PowerBook and erase it like a normal computer should do.
[09:40] <h36sa> batman: I've had q3 running on freebsd and gentoo before.. I'm sure it works with ubuntu
[09:40] <Nefass> ele ensina
[09:40] <youBun2> But in all honesty, this OS isn't as good as it can be though
[09:40] <nickrud> LazyAngel, you got your boot fixed i see
[09:40] <LKRaider> Nefass: conseguiu?
[09:41] <_jason> youBun2: paste the output of the 'groups' command
[09:41] <ron__> Can't chdir(klibido-0.2.3): No such file or directory at (eval 1) line 3 <--??
[09:41] <Nefass> eu ainda tenho que instalar uns programas
[09:41] <punkrockguy318> paganini: you could do that, but your gnome session wouldn't be saved.  I'm not sure if it's possible.. I'm going to file a bug report
[09:41] <batman> h36sa, so just copy over my install from windows?
[09:41] <Nefass> o kde-core
[09:41] <paganini> punkrockguy318: Ah, I see.
[09:41] <youBun2> the stupid restrictions between this, with OS X and XP is silly
[09:41] <_jason> !pt
[09:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:41] <punkrockguy318> paganini: I'd like to have a script at the end of the day that backs up and logs me out
[09:41] <h36sa> batman: yeah... then find a howto and make sure you've got the dir/files with the proper caps
[09:41] <batman> h36sa, i'll do it again and tell you the error message i get...
[09:41] <ompaul> youBun2, you seem to be conversing more than (A) helping or (B) requesting help - chat about ubuntu is done in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:41] <bluefoxicy> E: Package libicu28-dev has no installation candidate
[09:41] <youBun2> _jason: I would love to know where I will find the 'output of the groups command'
[09:41] <paganini> punkrockguy318: I think your best bet is just to logout, and then drop to a terminal from the gdm login screen.
[09:41] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: did you enable the src repos?
[09:41] <_jason> youBun2: applications menu > accessories > terminal, enter 'groups', press enter
[09:42] <youBun2> ompaul: My aim here is simple - I have trouble starting up Windows XP with a dual boot
[09:42] <youBun2> jason has been helping me
[09:42] <h36sa> youBun2: grub or lilo?
[09:42] <youBun2> so perhaps you should read a little in to all the comments i have said here before making such an insinuation hm?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> :(
[09:43] <youBun2> ok now then
[09:43] <mwe> bluefoxicy: you need to enable universe
[09:43] <youBun2> _jason:
[09:43] <youBun2> -_-
[09:43] <youBun2> can't even c&p the line
[09:43] <youBun2> give me a minute to type it out
[09:43] <h36sa> answer me fool or I can't help you
[09:43] <youBun2> admin adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[09:43] <Healot> bluefoxicy, you need to explore the universe
[09:43] <youBun2> ah
[09:43] <youBun2> there we go
[09:43] <_jason> youBun2: either use ctrl+shift+c or highlight it with your mouse and middle click here
[09:44] <[u] Ra> gnome-panel is taking up 30 mb of ram - is that normal?
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak, mwe, Healot:  It has 34 instead of 28
[09:44] <youBun2> I see - with OS X it is Command+C so I should've guessed that it would be different via linux
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> However the following packages replace it:
[09:44] <bluefoxicy>   libicu34-dev
[09:44] <youBun2> _jason: admin adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[09:44] <Mabus06> [u] Ra: mine is taking 21.1mb ... dunno
[09:44] <mwe> !info libicu28-dev
[09:44] <Auci> what the command to fix issues?
[09:44] <ubotu> libicu28-dev: (International Components for Unicode (development files)), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 2.8-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 5201 kB, Installed size: 15700 kB
[09:44] <Auci> cant remember
[09:44] <[u] Ra> some gnome-cups-icons taking up 36 , some procs taking too much, dunno what for
[09:44] <[u] Ra> :(
[09:45] <Mabus06> mwe: /query ubotu
[09:45] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: if you have dapper repos in breezy that will cause that and thats bad
[09:45] <gnomefreak> (including backports)
[09:45] <jke> [U] Ra: just under 15 at me
[09:45] <pospeselr> does anyone have any experience with trolltech's gui making program, designer ?
[09:45] <Auci> is there a way to repair ubuntu within the OS?
[09:45] <h36sa> [u] Ra: yeah you should go disable stuff :)
[09:45] <h36sa> Auci: probably the only way?
[09:45] <mwe> pospeselr: a little, but it's probably off topic
[09:45] <flax^^> omg, i suck at this :P uhm, how do i mount the disk /dev/sda1  ?
[09:45] <Healot> unicode dev, eh... for breezy dev, should be libicu28-dev
[09:45] <Mabus06> Auci: 'fix' in what way?
[09:46] <h36sa> flax^^: mount -t fstype /dev/sda1 /mnt/mountpoint
[09:46] <[u] Ra> ok I will be back
[09:46] <flax^^> k tnx
[09:46] <youBun2> Can someone tell me what I must do to quit an app that is NOT responding?
[09:46] <Auci> let me get the error im getting
[09:46] <h36sa> youBun2: kill pid
[09:46] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  in dapper
[09:47] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: your using dapper?
[09:47] <youBun2> kill pid?
[09:47] <mwe> youBun2: ps aux to find the pid then kill or kill -9 it
[09:47] <h36sa> yeah
[09:47] <youBun2> I suppose I type that in Terminal?
[09:47] <h36sa> kill pid
[09:47] <conn> can someone tell me what program I can use to record my desktop to a video file?
[09:47] <_jason> conn: istanbul
[09:47] <h36sa> or sudo killall -9 processname if it's stubborn
[09:47] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: you can try to install the package you have for it and see if it works
[09:47] <bimberi> conn: istanbul is one
[09:47] <Auci> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/login_1%3a4.0.3-37ubuntu8_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline
[09:47] <Auci> . this is why i get when i try to install after i downloaded the updates,
[09:48] <Healot> youBun2, stab that program many times, it will die :)
[09:48] <paganini> !!
[09:48] <ubotu> paganini: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:48] <Auci> it is making me crazy, im a newbie in all sense of the word. on linux.
[09:48] <paganini> (oops)
[09:48] <mwe> heh
[09:48] <_jason> searching the forums about youBun2's problem seems to suggest he may need to run his cd burning program as root.  I doubt sudo'ing gnomebaker is the correct way to do this... alternative suggestions?
[09:48] <Mnemic> !ati
[09:48] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:48] <Howitzer> I'm following http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Speed_up_boot BUT: they don't mention how to disable the services, do i have to untick every box then?
[09:48] <thomas_> the ppl in #ubuntu+l dont wanna help[ at all so can someone here help me setup nvidia driver 3d acceleration on ubuntu dapper drake f5...
[09:49] <h36sa> _jason: uh.. normally there is a cdr group or something, or you setuid the binary
[09:49] <thomas_> im not a complete newb just dont wanna mess my stuff
[09:49] <h36sa> k3b has an option to +s the binary
[09:49] <silvaran> !tell thomas_ about xgl
[09:49] <gnomefreak> thomas_: give me two mins ill be in there
[09:49] <silvaran> thomas_: Really, that's the only thing I needed to follow to get it up and running on my nvidia card.
[09:49] <youBun2> Eventually, when the problem is sorted, I intend to be a regular Ubuntu community member - obviously I have to prioritise everything don't I - hence sorting out my dual boot problem ;-)
[09:49] <Psykus> hey, I installed XP on another partition after ubuntu, and it seems to have wiped out lilo/grub/whatever...is there anyway to install it without installing ubuntu again?
[09:50] <Healot> I freaking need the AT command for my LG cellphone...
[09:50] <Psykus> ubuntu is still on a partition, but the bootloader has been replaced with XPs
[09:50] <Kyral> !RecoverGrub
[09:50] <ubotu> methinks recovergrub is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:50] <ompaul> _jason, the user should be in the group cdrom (typically 24) and to do this we use the program vigr
[09:50] <h36sa> thomas_: go to www.nvidia.com, download the x86 or amd64 binary driver, chmod +x ~/downloads/NVIDIA*, sudo ~/downloads/NVIDIA-xxx-xxx
[09:50] <h36sa> pretty easy to do actually
[09:50] <_jason> ompaul: hrmm he's in cdrom, I guess it must be something else than
[09:50] <thomas_> k cool
[09:50] <silvaran> h36sa: I think it might be better to use the repo nvidia binaries.
[09:50] <h36sa> why
[09:50] <thomas_> i just did a fresh install just wanan get xgl going
[09:50] <ompaul> _jason, is it buring anything?
[09:50] <silvaran> thomas_: Don't forget the nvidia driver (follow the dapper instructions)
[09:50] <h36sa> they aren't working for him
[09:51] <Psykus> Kyral, thanks
[09:51] <silvaran> !tell thomas_ about nvidia
[09:51] <_jason> youBun2: so that means I don't know, let ompaul know what it does when you try to burn and he might be able to help you more
[09:51] <silvaran> h36sa: He hasn't tried them yet.
[09:51] <h36sa> anyone got a less cpu-intensive alternative to gdesklets?
[09:51] <h36sa> I think it's a joke that my cpu monitor uses 15% of my cpu...
[09:52] <ompaul> youBun2, so tell me when you put a blank into the CDwriter does it appear on your desktop?
[09:52] <youBun2> Alright! At the moment though I am running a process which sn123 has given me in my thread
[09:52] <h36sa> gnomefreak: you need glx support to load it?
[09:52] <youBun2> ompaul: Yes, it appears blank
[09:52] <gnomefreak> h36sa: no you need 3d to use it
[09:52] <ispiked> how do I set mountpoints for the logical volumes I make in the installer?
[09:52] <h36sa> 3d=glx
[09:52] <silvaran> youBun2: Do you have Places->CD/DVD Creator?
[09:52] <ompaul> youBun2, what do you want to burn with it?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> h36sa: for nvidia it is but not for ati
[09:53] <h36sa> ok
[09:53] <youBun2> silvaran, No, I do not
[09:53] <h36sa> but he obviously has an nvidia card..
[09:53] <youBun2> ompaul, I would like to burn SystemRescueCD
[09:53] <jessy_> is it possible to copy something in console and having the current progress ? like with a progress bar or only percent
[09:53] <silvaran> youBun2: sudo apt-get install nautilus-cd-burner
[09:53] <gnomefreak> h36sa: yes !nvidia might help him more though
[09:53] <ompaul> youBun2, where is it on your file system on the desktop or in your home directory?
[09:54] <raboof> ok. so the livecd doesn't autodetect that it needs to load the 'snd-powermac' and 'bmac' kernel modules when running on a Powermac G3 B/W
[09:54] <youBun2> ompaul, It is located on 'Desktop'
[09:54] <youBun2> silvaran, Do I run that command via 'Terminal' ?
[09:54] <silvaran> youBun2: Yup
[09:55] <ompaul> youBun2, right click on the cdname.iso file and choose "write" from that popup menu
[09:56] <Remonster> where do programs that synaptic install go? i can't find it
[09:56] <ispiked> Remonster: various places on the hdd.
[09:56] <gnomefreak> Remonster: depends on where they need to go
[09:56] <youBun2> ompaul, Thank you for your help on this - but at the moment I need to ERASE the data on my current CD-RW _
[09:56] <Remonster> poop
[09:56] <azurehuesofblue> I think you can use a which command to find programs
[09:56] <paganini> Heheh
[09:56] <Kyral> Remenic, generally someplace in /usr
[09:56] <_jason> Remonster: what program
[09:56] <azurehuesofblue> which xchat
[09:56] <flax^^> uhm, i think that ill have to unmount or something (/dev/hdd1 on / type ntfs (rw))
[09:56] <Remonster> bittorrent
[09:56] <youBun2> ompaul, Infact, I will erase on my PowerBook and then write on here
[09:56] <gnomefreak> Remonster: linux fs is alot smarter than windows file system ;)
[09:57] <youBun2> =P
[09:57] <warthawg> is there a way to rip to mp3 format in ubuntu?
[09:57] <Kyral> Remonster, if you know the command, then just do "which <command>"
[09:57] <h36sa> flax^^: no
[09:57] <mwe> Remonster: sometimes the new shortcut wont appear until next login. dpkg -L <package>|grep bin will usually show the binary name
[09:57] <Remonster> yea, windows keeps dying when i ran bittorrent, so i'm trying linux
[09:57] <ompaul> youBun2, whatever you want but seems like a lot of effort for 20p worth of disk
[09:57] <h36sa> flax^^: what are you trying to mount, what filesystem is it, and where do you want to mount it?
[09:57] <paganini> warthog: yes
[09:57] <ompaul> youBun2, you could also install k3b
[09:58] <Remonster> oh, i didn't know that, i'll restart then, thanks!
[09:58] <warthawg> paganin:  thanks, which package is it, please?
[09:58] <paganini> Warthog: Do you want to rip from CD?
[09:58] <warthawg> paganini, yes
[09:58] <paganini> warthawg: Soundjuicer installs by default with ubuntu
[09:58] <Tamsie> i. When I now login to my gnome desktop on ubuntu 5.10 , gaim starts and logs on automatically and a folder on my desktop pops wide open. How do I disable those two actions?
[09:58] <paganini> And then you need to install MP3 capability
[09:58] <warthawg> ah, some plugins?
[09:58] <pospeselr> Sorry about before, had to get a package; does anyone have any experience with trolltech's gui making program, designer?
[09:58] <paganini> Which, I think, is gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:58] <warthawg> thanks, paganini
[09:59] <paganini> But, you should check the Restricted Formats page on the ubuntu wiki
[09:59] <gnomefreak> Tamsie: the gaim settings iirc
[09:59] <warthawg> ok, will check that
[09:59] <pospeselr> It loads whenever I run it, but it doesn't display any fonts, which makes using it a bit difficult
[09:59] <thomas_> ok guys i got the nvidia driver installed on ubuntu
[09:59] <katarot> can someone check this for me to see if iam doing it correctly
[09:59] <katarot> http://pastebin.com/608027
[09:59] <thomas_> now whats the link to get xgl and compiz setup?
[09:59] <thomas_> on dapper drake f5
[09:59] <youBun2> ompaul, I have installed both GnomeBaker and K3B and both fail to erase my CD-RW
[09:59] <gnomefreak> thomas_: are you gonna go into #ubuntu+1 so i can help you?
[09:59] <h36sa> Tamsie: go system->preferences->sessions and see if you have stuff being autoloaded, or close the stuff, click logout and click the save my settings button
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> Guys, what kernel source packages should I install - kernel-source-* or kernel-tree-*
[09:59] <thomas_> sure man
[09:59] <nickrud> Tamsie, try closing those windows, then hitting alt-f2 and entering gnome-session-save , and then enter.
[09:59] <Xen> hello... I have a quick question. how do i prevent my mounted volumes from showing up on my desktop in gnome?
[10:00] <youBun2> ompaul, and at this time, this CD-RW is the only one I have to play around with until I buy some more this weekend
[10:00] <h36sa> youBun2: I don't even think you can burn 650mb on a cd-rw
[10:00] <scarabatwork> can anyone here tell me why a wireless device that has been working steadily for the past 3 weeks would suddenly disappear from the list of available devices?
[10:01] <ispiked> need help on how to set up lvm with the installer.
[10:01] <Mabus06> Is there a tool somebody can reccomend to check a list of proxies for one that works? It's tedious going through a bunch of ones that don't work.
[10:01] <h36sa> scarabatwork: you using ndiswrapper?
[10:01] <ispiked> I don't know what to name stuff, or what I need.
[10:01] <ispiked> Mabus06: write a script to ping all them?
[10:01] <youBun2> h36sa, That depends on the make of CD-RW
[10:01] <techrush> ive had that happen to me before scarabatwork sorry to say i could not figure out what the problem was
[10:01] <scarabatwork> no, is a cisco wireless card
[10:01] <ispiked> Mabus06: ping might not mean working, though.
[10:01] <h36sa> scarabatwork: I've had WEIRD stuff happen with wifi cards (like they die for weeks at a time then just start working, or require me to boot windows to reset them, or whatever..
[10:01] <scarabatwork> very confusing
[10:01] <flax^^> how do i unmount disks?
[10:01] <h36sa> scarabatwork: what driver
[10:02] <nickrud> Xen, Applications -> System Tools -> Config Editor , then open the tree and look for apps/nautilus/desktop/ and uncheck volumes_visible
[10:02] <h36sa> flax^^: umount /mnt/mountpoint
[10:02] <ispiked> flax^^: umount <mount point>
[10:02] <Healot> umount <device> or umount <mount point>
[10:02] <paganini> flax^^: sudo umount <wherever>
[10:02] <Healot> use "eject" to open+unmount at the same time
[10:02] <scarabatwork> h36a: not sure... how can i tell
[10:02] <ispiked> anyone used lvm with the installer?
[10:03] <scarabatwork> h36a: since it worked by default, i never worried with it
[10:03] <ispiked> I need to know what lvms to make...
[10:03] <Xen> nickrud: Thanks! it worked.
[10:03] <h36sa> scarabatwork: check dmesg, or give me the lspci output for the network card
[10:04] <Mabus06> ispiked: I've never written scripts, but I've programmed in some languages... should I look up bash or is there something else I should look up to get a program to traverse through a list of proxies and ping them?
[10:04] <Tamsie> is there a way to disable from within gnome?
[10:04] <flax^^> "umount: /: that drive is busy"
[10:04] <zax1> any one really familiar with wamp ? or know irc channel for it ?
[10:04] <ispiked> flax^^: stop viewing it.
[10:04] <h36sa> Tamsie: christ.. didn't you read what I told you?
[10:04] <paganini> flax^^: I don't think you want to unmount your root filesystem
[10:04] <h36sa> haha
[10:04] <ompaul> h36sa, language
[10:04] <h36sa> flax is lost
[10:04] <flax^^> yeep :D
[10:04] <ispiked> Mabus06: to be honest, I don't know if a ping response means working or not. a bash or python script would seem appropriate, though.
[10:04] <flax^^> xD
[10:05] <h36sa> flax^^: once again. what are you trying to mount, what's the filesystem and where do you want it mounted
[10:05] <flax^^> the thing is taht i think i mounted all my drives in / or something like taht :P
[10:05] <flax^^> that*
[10:05] <zax1> any one really familiar with wamp ? or know irc channel for it ?
[10:05] <h36sa> flax^^: type mount
[10:05] <linuxboyfriend> n
[10:05] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[10:05] <Mabus06> ispiked: easy enough to check... ill ping an unworking proxy
[10:05] <ispiked> zax1: http://searchirc.com/ is good.
[10:05] <zax1> thanks
[10:06] <flax^^> "/dev/hdd1 on / type ntfs (rw)"
[10:06] <linuxboyfriend> how can i uninstall kubuntu and all of its related packages?
[10:06] <nickrud> Tamsie, I'm not sure, there's a lot of hidden configs in there and I just happened to remember that one
[10:06] <Tamsie> there are no startup programs
[10:06] <h36sa> flax^^: that's it? that is fine
[10:06] <flax^^> h36sa, ?
[10:06] <h36sa> Tamsie: then close gaim and the window, log out and click the "save settings" button
[10:06] <scarabatwork> h36a: sorry... its an atheros AR5212
[10:06] <h36sa> scarabatwork: solid, that's what I have too. use the madwifi driver
[10:06] <zax1> ispiked>>> :D many thanks found one
[10:07] <nickrud> linuxboyfriend, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[10:07] <h36sa> scarabatwork: actually, madwifi updated to madwifi-ng.. I bet you are having firmware issues or something lame with the updated driver
[10:07] <h36sa> you might check the repository and try downgrading to the madwifi driver
[10:07] <flax^^> im pretty lost, if someone's up to pin-point me through this, /msg me
[10:07] <Mnemic> Guys, i have updated the Kernel, and now i have 6 choisess to make in the Boot Scrn? umm.. how do i remove the old Kernel versions from the List ? :)
[10:07] <ispiked> flax^^: you cannot unmount it if you're "using" it.
[10:08] <h36sa> flax^^: I've already asked you what I need to know twice.. not doing it again
[10:08] <scarabatwork> h36a: crap... lol... gonna havta get a ubuntu boot disk from somewhere.. my bloody burner is on the linux box lol
[10:08] <Tamsie> "log in with empty session next time" check box would help
[10:08] <ispiked> flax^^: mounting stuff as / is not a good idea.
[10:08] <flax^^> ispiked, nope, but its done
[10:08] <ompaul> h36sa, :: flax^^ "/dev/hdd1 on / type ntfs (rw)" :: :-)
[10:08] <h36sa> scarabatwork: :(
[10:08] <h36sa> ompaul: I know.. what does he want to mount though
[10:08] <h36sa> I know he doesn't want to mess with /
[10:08] <ispiked> ubotu: lvm
[10:08] <ubotu> I heard lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[10:09] <scarabatwork> ht36a: thanks for your help... i'll see what i can do with it... that will help
[10:09] <h36sa> "sda1 is a usb stick that's fat32 and I want to mount it to /mnt/usb" that I can help
[10:09] <h36sa> "umount / doesn't work" doesn't help
[10:09] <ompaul> flax^^, there is a simple solution have your read and followed the instructions from the bot on ntfs?
[10:09] <codeyman> hello everyone
[10:10] <gmcclure> i've upgraded to dapper, and i've got gnome 2.14 running, but i don't have the new deskbar applet ... how can i install that?
[10:10] <h36sa> wait what.. you have an ntfs partition mounted as root
[10:10] <h36sa> haha
[10:10] <h36sa> hwo is your system still working
[10:10] <nickrud> gmcclure, no idea, they may know on #ubuntu+1
[10:11] <codeyman> hey guys I was installing something on my system and the sound went off for the users
[10:11] <codeyman> the root can however play the sounds...
[10:11] <ompaul> flax^^, paste the full output of mount into paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[10:11] <vook> codeyman, check the permissions on the devices used by the soundcard, primarily /dev/dsp
[10:12] <codeyman> whenever I click the volume control, I get the following output
[10:12] <codeyman> The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[10:12] <codeyman> You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu.
[10:12] <h36sa> codeyman: maybe your udev conf got messed with.. normally you can add users to the audio group and it'd fix that
[10:12] <gmcclure> oh. got it. i thought it was just a part of 2.14, but it can be installed through synaptic/apt-get
[10:12] <gmcclure> thx
[10:12] <azurehuesofblue> how do I install 2.14?
[10:13] <codeyman> h36sa> can u describe how to do it please?
[10:13] <flax^^> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10417
[10:13] <jcole> how do i enable java support in vino for ubuntu?
[10:13] <h36sa> codeyman: vigr
[10:13] <gnomefreak> azurehuesofblue: you have to compile it for breezy (not worth it IMO)
[10:13] <h36sa> codeyman: er.. sudo vigr
[10:14] <codeyman> k
[10:14] <jcole> "sudo apt-get install vnc-java" didn'r enable it
[10:14] <Skrot> Hi. I've got a laptop that requires a modified DSDT-table for ACPI and APIC to work. Is there any way (k)ubuntu can include that to their kernel or something like that in order to get it working without me compiling my own kernel? =)
[10:14] <ompaul> flax^^,  reboot that machine and remove that stick as the box reboots
[10:14] <azurehuesofblue> gnomefreak: ok, hey... is there anywhere where I can see the scheduled releases of ubuntu?  So I know when dapper is stable and stuff?
[10:14] <h36sa> Skrot: what kinda laptop?
[10:14] <flax^^> stick?
[10:14] <Skrot> h36sa: It's a Acer Travelmate 3004 :)
[10:15] <ompaul> flax^^,  usb /dev/sda1
[10:15] <h36sa> hmm
[10:15] <Skrot> h36sa: I've got the working DSDT table if that helps. I would just like it to work by default with ubuntu =)
[10:15] <h36sa> I think there might be an acer laptop support driver in there
[10:15] <codeyman> h36sa> Looks like it worked I'll logout and check itout... thanx
[10:15] <h36sa> codeyman: sure
[10:15] <Skrot> h36sa: "in here" as in a guy working on the driver in this channel, or a driver in the kernel? ;)
[10:15] <various> \quit
[10:15] <bourla> hi
[10:15] <gnomefreak> azurehuesofblue: that is a touchy one right now about when dapper will be stable we should know by next week
[10:16] <bourla> can someone help me?
[10:16] <h36sa> in there meaning in the kernel source
[10:16] <richard> how can i use dinamic tables in oppen office?
[10:16] <bourla> i using an svideo cable
[10:16] <h36sa> I could check I guess
[10:16] <Phazeman> hi gnomefreak. ended up with downloading the install cd and installed from it
[10:16] <vook> h36sa, thanks from me too, my advice was vague and misleading.
[10:16] <azurehuesofblue> gnomefreak: cool :)
[10:16] <bourla> and the screen goes blure whenn ubuntu comes up
[10:16] <bourla> what can it be?
[10:16] <Skrot> h36sa: I see. I've read variouse laptop on-articles about this machine though, and noone has mentioned such a driver :>
[10:16] <katarot> quick question i have been trying to use ndiswrapper and it think it works the only thing is i cant get it to show wlan0
[10:16] <Phazeman> now... looks like i miss some kind of source since i can't find the gkrellm-skins... anyboty knows where is it ?
[10:16] <novem> can anyone tell me where xsetroot is for that disguisting browncolor ubuntu has with gdm splash/logout?
[10:17] <bourla> i using an svideo cable
[10:17] <bourla> and the screen goes blure whenn ubuntu comes up
[10:17] <h36sa> Skrot: my bad.. it was an asus laptop driver, not acer
[10:17] <bourla> what can it be?
[10:17] <Webby`> How do I connect ati tv wonder usb 2.0 to ubuntu? I still can't get it to work
[10:17] <katarot> i have got etho l0 and sit0
[10:17] <Skrot> h36sa: Okay =)
[10:17] <h36sa> katarot: dmesg|grep ndis
[10:17] <novem> who thought up that brown theme anyway, good god.
[10:18] <Skrot> h36sa: How does one go about to get this stuff included in the kernel, if it's even possible (legal)?
[10:18] <h36sa> katarot: Skrot: lend your laptop to a kernel developer for a while :P
[10:18] <h36sa> er
[10:18] <codeyman> gee it worked :)
[10:18] <Skrot> hehe ;)
[10:19] <h36sa> codeyman: good
[10:19] <h36sa> Skrot: the power management on my laptop is just now finally starting to work well
[10:19] <h36sa> so I wouldn't be surprised if a kernel comes out fixing your problem soon
[10:19] <Skrot> h36sa: Yeah. Laptop-support is slow :)
[10:20] <codeyman> I wanted to downgrade my gcc version
[10:20] <h36sa> yeah an dI have a dell :P
[10:20] <katarot> h36sa: i get this it weird http://pastebin.com/608072
[10:20] <codeyman> so i did apt-get remove gcc
[10:20] <codeyman> and apt-get install gcc-3.3
[10:20] <yggdrasil> how can i assign a shortcut key like lat f5 to a script i have ?
[10:20] <yggdrasil> in gnome...
[10:20] <codeyman> but it does not installthat way??
[10:21] <codeyman> I had to do the complete build-essential..
[10:21] <codeyman> any thots??
[10:21] <novem> can anyone help it's pretty simple issue, dapper has this ugly brown solid/hex/bgcolor for gdm login splash, and I cant find xsetroot in any file other then /etc/gdm/presession/default, which isnt doing anything?
[10:21] <h36sa> katarot: ij
[10:21] <gnomefreak> codeyman: you can just point it to use gcc3.4 or 3.3 or whatever
[10:21] <codeyman> k.
[10:21] <h36sa> katarot: try removing that driver from ndiswrapper and adding the bcmwl5a driver
[10:22] <katarot> ohh ok
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[10:22] <h36sa> that's the one my card uses
[10:22] <gnomefreak> novem: sudo apt-get install gnome-art will install a log-in screen settings area
[10:22] <linuxboyfriend> g
[10:23] <eugman> Are there any conflicts if I were to install KDE on my machine so I can try it out?
[10:23] <eugman> er would there be.
[10:23] <h36sa> eugman: nope
[10:23] <gnomefreak> eugman: no you will be fine
[10:24] <shiv> what is a good car racing game in linux?
[10:24] <Terminus> shiv: torcs?
[10:24] <linuxboyfriend> d
[10:24] <rysiek|pl> guys, I am starting to be a bit fed up. I have installed kernel-tree package and am looking form the sources of a single module (forcedeth) - and nothing!
[10:24] <novem> gnomefreak: ive tinkered with gnome-art but i cant seem to use it to fix the solid brown spash bg? i cant seem to figure it out, it could be inheriting the color from root, but its using the universal x11 session file?
[10:25] <thomas_> hey
[10:25] <rysiek|pl> apt-cache search forcedeth gives nothing, too
[10:25] <thomas_> gnomefreak u there buddy? :D
[10:25] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: it's under device drivers->network->pci->nforce
[10:25] <davidleeroth> is it possible to be able to play more than one audio source in ubuntu?
[10:25] <rysiek|pl> thx :)
[10:25] <shiv> thanks Terminus: let me give it a try
[10:25] <gnomefreak> novem: go to system>preff>splash screen if you mean the splash screen after you log in
[10:25] <gnomefreak> if you meant the mod loading screen xubuntu took care of that for me ;)
[10:25] <gnomefreak> thomas_: ?
[10:25] <novem> no no, the actual splash screen art i can change in the splash screen prefs, im talking about the solid color BEHIND the splash screen art
[10:25] <h36sa> davidleeroth: if you're using arts or gstreamer or jack, yes
[10:26] <thomas_> yea i got it running
[10:26] <thomas_> i tried running glxgears
[10:26] <h36sa> fps?
[10:26] <novem> having a nice silver splash and a crap brown behind it doesnt look good ;)
[10:26] <thomas_> and it kicked me back to login screen
[10:26] <thomas_> went black
[10:26] <thomas_> i was able to run it b4 i loaded compiz+xgl
[10:26] <thomas_> i see the wobbly effects
[10:26] <h36sa> you've got the wrong glx installed or something
[10:26] <thomas_> dont see how i can flip screens around tho
[10:26] <thomas_> didnt get to do that
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: locate nforce | grep network gives nothing
[10:26] <gnomefreak> novem: what splash are you talking about
[10:26] <thomas_> maybe i do..
[10:26] <thomas_> i installed it from the howto
[10:26] <thomas_> on wiki
[10:26] <gnomefreak> thomas_: use the commands on the wiki
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> (updatedb done before that, off course :) )
[10:27] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: did you try locate forcedeth.c
[10:27] <linuxboyfriend> g
[10:27] <eugman> ARgh depedency errors! What is the tope level package to run KDE?
[10:27] <rysiek|pl> yup, nought found
[10:27] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: can you please stop that
[10:27] <ompaul> thomas_, please join the channel #ubuntu+1 thanks - that is for dapper
[10:27] <thomas_> okay sry
[10:27] <novem> gnomefreak: when i log into gnome, it displays a splash logo wich icons pass acrossed, behind this splash logo there is a base (hex/color) brown background
[10:27] <eugman> is it kubuntu desktop?
[10:27] <novem> I can not change it
[10:27] <snorkeltje> Hi everybody. Does someone know a Linux-taste of PPlive??
[10:27] <h36sa> davidleeroth: don't message me
[10:27] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: well.. you should have it
[10:27] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: locate forcedeth only gives me some *.h and *.ko files
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> well... I know :)
[10:28] <novem> it seems that somewhere in the presession or xinit its using xsetroot to define this ugly brown color, but xsetroot is in one file and changing it didnt fix it
[10:28] <h36sa> warning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: Permission denied
[10:28] <h36sa> /usr/src/linux-2.6.15-gentoo-r1/drivers/net/forcedeth.c
[10:28] <maxkelley> !dapper
[10:28] <gnomefreak> novem: yes download a new splash than open system>preff>splash screen and add it in there than set it on
[10:28] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[10:28] <h36sa> that's where it is on my box
[10:28] <novem> gnomefreak: already have a new splash, already have it active, the splash screen itself isnt the problem
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> well, I am trying to find it not with locate, but with ll -R / | grep forcedeth
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> ...and nothing
[10:29] <maxkelley> say, is it possible to install dapper using synaptic on an existing breezy installation?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> novem: the wallpaper?
[10:29] <novem> when gnome starts, and displays the splash screen i have set in splash screen prefs, BEHIND that splash screen, (the rest of the desktop area) is a solid brown, (before the wallpaper loads),
[10:29] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: I *JUST* showed you where it is
[10:30] <gnomefreak> novem: normal
[10:30] <kbrooks> maxkelley, you can upgrade to it.i'd not use dapper on production machines
[10:30] <novem> how do i change it to another color?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> novem: gnome cant load anything until gnome is loaded
[10:30] <ompaul> maxkelley, it is now head over to the land of dapper in #ubuntu+1 to get more details cheers
[10:30] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: notice that you are using a gentoo kernel :)
[10:30] <maxkelley> kbrooks: it isn't.. where can I upgrade to it? what repos do I have to add?
[10:30] <maxkelley> ompaul: cheers!
[10:30] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: whatever, it'll be in there
[10:30] <novem> gnomefreak: so where exactly is that ugly brown being defined?
[10:30] <katarot> there nothing new
[10:31] <h36sa> I use the vanilla kernel sources too and they have forcedeth
[10:31] <h36sa> FOR SURE
[10:31] <snorkeltje> Is a linux version of PPLive or Sopcast available for Ubuntu
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> How is load calculated?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> novem: i dont have a clue. i dont think that is something that you can change
[10:31] <katarot> it is like its there but not been configured  do i need to configure it
[10:31] <jdprc06> hi i have a problem - i can't load synaptic
[10:31] <linuxboyfriend> l
[10:31] <h36sa> . /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/forcedeth.c should be in any recent 2.6 kernel
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> jdprc06: More detail might be helpful for someone to give you an answer.
[10:32] <novem> ill see if i can get a screenshot , in every other distro ive tinkered with it was just an issue of xsetroot in an xinit,
[10:32] <nickrud> novem, have you tried gdmsetup ?
[10:32] <linuxboyfriend> jdprc06, if apt is working then u can not load synaptic
[10:32] <novem> nickrud: yeah
[10:32] <linuxboyfriend> jdprc06, once at a time
[10:32] <jdprc06> apt?
[10:32] <jdprc06> any apt?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> nickrud: that shouldnt do it because gnome isnt loaded at that point
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: guess what - no such file or directory (tried: cd /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/)
[10:32] <novem> gnomefreak: gnome is LOADING at this point, it is going through its presession etc
[10:33] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: looks like we found your problem. you don't have the kernel sources installed
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> jdprc06: Advanced Package Tool, iirc, the thing Synaptic is a frontend to.
[10:33] <nickrud> gnomefreak, gdm runs before gnome, your mention of gnome not being able to run before gnome made me think of it
[10:33] <gnomefreak> loading not loaded
[10:33] <h36sa> or you're missing the /usr/src/linux symlink
[10:33] <nickrud> but it was a miss anyway
[10:33] <novem> nickrud: gdm loads, displays my custom login perfect, i log in, gdm finishes up its job and gnome displays its splash (a custom i set) behind this custom splash its an ugly brown, that i cant change
[10:33] <jdprc06> as in apt-get?
[10:34] <gnomefreak> nickrud: the only place i can think of it being is in the sourcecode and thats a whole lotta work to change
[10:34] <linuxboyfriend> jdprc06, and what about putting your name in sudoers
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> jdprc06: Correct.
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: I have installed kernel-tree package (which depends on kernel-tree and kernel-debian-patches) *before* I have asked the question.
[10:34] <nickrud> ewww
[10:34] <Majd> hey, does the ubuntu cd include a "repair" option?
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> novem, nickrud: I wasn't following before, but I might have an answer.
[10:34] <novem> gnomefreak: its brown because of the theme ubuntu threw in with dapper
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: updatedb; locate forcedeth.c does not show *anything*
[10:34] <jdprc06> i was told to do that but i typed it wrong i think.  can you tell me again how to add to sudoers
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: ll -R / | grep forcedeth.c the same
[10:34] <eobanb> is there a dapper ppc livecd available?
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> novem, nickrud: Go to the GTK tab in GDM setup, not the themed one, and there you'll find a background color option, and I've found in the past that changing that will change the background of the splash.
[10:35] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: well, I just looked on my laptop and the file I say exists, does in fact exist
[10:35] <raboof> mm, being able to add/remove programs even in the livecd version. that's pretty neat :)
[10:35] <h36sa> so you've gotta get a new copy of the kernel sources or something
[10:35] <ompaul> eobanb, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ look there you will find one
[10:35] <novem> tonyyarusso: i havent tried that, thanks very much ill give it ago
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> novem: Let me know if that does it.
[10:36] <nickrud> I use the regular login, that's what I thought. I just haven't done it in a while, I kinda like brown
[10:36] <ompaul> eobanb, join the channel #ubuntu+1 for dapper based info
[10:36] <novem> I will be back in one moment
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> raboof: Still just in RAM though, right?
[10:36] <poasfd> hi
[10:36] <poasfd> ne1 here
[10:37] <novem> tony your right, its set in there
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> poasfd: Just a few hundred.
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: now I give up. I *have* the newest sources installed and haven't got that file. are you using Breezy (5.10)? Or Dapper? (I'm a Breezyrian).
[10:37] <novem> thanks!
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> novem: Sweet.
[10:37] <poasfd> i was wondering if ubuntu linux live would be able to detect a usb external hard drive
[10:37] <flax^^> ok, i think that i managed to mount a disk now, but now it says that i dont have permission to view the files in it :(
[10:37] <batman> does anyone know of a way i can copy files that are inside dirs to the following dirs if the dir exists if the dir doesn't exist then create it but don't overwrite existing files in the dirs?
[10:37] <eobanb> ompaul, awesome, thanks
[10:37] <novem> im suprised i couldent find it in any configs
[10:38] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: well, I'm doing a dist-upgrade right now. but the sources are from breezy
[10:38] <canllaith> poasfd: yes
[10:38] <poasfd> thanks
[10:38] <ompaul> eobanb, enjoy
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: ok, I'll try to install kernel-tree-2.6.10 instead of *-2.6.11
[10:38] <h36sa> I have linux-source-2.6.12 in /usr/src and it has forcedeth
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> novem: It is highly unintuitive; not sure why that is.
[10:38] <Terminus> flax^^: what filesystem? ntfs?
[10:38] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: why not upgrade?
[10:38] <flax^^> yrah
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> to Dapper?
[10:38] <flax^^> yeah*
[10:38] <h36sa> to 2.6.12
[10:39] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: $uname -r: 2.6.12-10-k7 - now when you tell me where the *hell* are the sources for the bastard, I'll be more than happy
[10:39] <Terminus> flax^^: you probably need to set the umask in fstab, assuming you added it there. if not, remount with umask. :)
[10:39] <raboof> hrm. mac keyboards missing the 'del' key is annoying if your OS isn't used to that ;)
[10:39] <toblerp> hey folks
[10:39] <Mnemic> !ati
[10:39] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:39] <toblerp> where can i get w32codecs?
[10:40] <toblerp> do you guys use the cipferfunk mirror?
[10:40] <ispiked> it's asking me where to install grub. if I made /boot, do I need to tell it to install grub there?
[10:40] <flax^^> Terminus, .... 'ok', please, talk to me like im 3 years old and retarded
[10:40] <flax^^> :P
[10:40] <rysiek|pl> AAAAAARGH!!
[10:40] <Terminus> toblerp: i use marillat for that.
[10:40] <ispiked> toblerp: mplayer's site has them.
[10:40] <h36sa> rysiek|pl: man, I've already held your hand long enough and you keep telling me I'm wrong when I'm not
[10:40] <h36sa> so I'm pretty over helping you
[10:40] <Terminus> flax^^: hahaha. do you know how to use chmod?
[10:40] <toblerp> but i want a ubuntu package
[10:41] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: yep, you're right, sorry. I installed kernel-tree-* instead of linux-tree-*
[10:41] <rel> hiya geeks
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> I seem to have lost all of my sounds in Gnome just now; any idea why that would happen?
[10:41] <h36sa> I think the linux-tree is debian kernel source
[10:41] <criminy> I came in here yesterday abuot an ipod
[10:41] <flax^^> uhm, i installed ubuntu like 2 hours ago :P
[10:41] <Majd> tonyyarusso, speakers are off?
[10:41] <h36sa> er
[10:41] <Majd> sorry...i know i'm an ass
[10:41] <h36sa> kernel-source is the debian one.. linux-source is what you need
[10:41] <criminy> I get lines and lines of sd 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> raboof: They don't have a del key?
[10:41] <criminy> in dmesg
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> Majd: Nope, just checked.
[10:42] <rysiek|pl> h36sa: yep, installing it right now...
[10:42] <Terminus> ubotu: tell flax^^ about ntfs
[10:42] <Majd> heh...dunno really...i just screwed up my linux-image and i can't boot linux now
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> toblerp: I use the seveas repo.
[10:42] <Majd> waiting for my friend to give me the cd back so i can "repair" it if it's an option
[10:42] <flax^^> tnx Terminus
[10:42] <toblerp> seveas?
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> !seveas
[10:43] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:43] <snorkeltje> I am searching for PPlive for Linux.
[10:43] <Terminus> flax^^: np. that should help you. good luck. :)
[10:43] <rel> when will gtk redraw windows as smooth as windows(tm) does
[10:43] <toblerp> !seveas
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> rel: Probably with Dapper; I've heard there's some fancy new stuff there.  And if you're using old hardware, it's already a lot smoother than trying to run Vista on your system would be!
[10:44] <ompaul> toblerp, you should look a few lines above this
[10:44] <rel> tonyyarusso: running dapper.. guess it will take some years :)
[10:45] <rysiek|pl> cu all, sorry for flamin', h36sa :/ it's been a long day
[10:45] <phaedral> among other reasons to install ubuntu---the 5.1 installer fits on my left-over 650mb discs...
[10:46] <h36sa> I just dist-upgrade 'd my box to dapper and now X starts but dies when loading the wm with "error opening securty policy file /etc/xserver/SecurityPolicy" ... any advice?
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> h36sa: Ask in #ubuntu+1, that's where Dapper questions are being handled.
[10:47] <flax^^> Terminus, ok, i ran the script. but it still says taht i dont have the rights :(
[10:47] <Greyscalefox> Can anyone tell me how to make a bash script dump a small amount of text to a file?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> that was wayyyyyyy to easy :(
[10:48] <dibblego> can CD/DVD Creator create from an ISO image?
[10:48] <youBun2> _jason, What is it I must do with this SystemRescue CD?
[10:48] <calloc> anyone help with a mysql config? Im trying to connect to mysql on my ubuntu box from a windows machines, Ive allowed the rules in firewall etc and I have also added a mysql user that is allowed to connect from anywhere, but I still canno connect, can anyone help?
[10:48] <Spudchat> hi, anyone know of an aim server?
[10:48] <PokerFacePenguin> Greyscalefox: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[10:49] <dibblego> calloc: check that the machine has TCP/3306 open
[10:49] <Greyscalefox> Thanks!
[10:49] <Spudchat> ive seen some jabber ones, but not for aim
[10:49] <paganini> Does anyone use the deskbar-applet for google searches?
[10:49] <PokerFacePenguin> Greyscalefox: no problem, a must have for bash scripting
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> Majd: On the other hand, maybe they are off...
[10:49] <ZdArKx> Anyone know who install apache server on Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:50] <Majd> haha
[10:50] <flax^^> how do i give myself rights to a disk?
[10:50] <DBO> excuse me for being out of the loop, but is Drapper Drake officially pushed back?
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> My speakers seem to off, but I've used my little volume buttons, and that displays them as on and the volume halfway up, but I get nothing.  What can I do?
[10:50] <silvaran> DBO: ^topic
[10:50] <Majd> ZdArKx, for me, it only took the installation of apache2 package from synaptic....that was it
[10:50] <youBun2> This is so fustrating
[10:50] <Spudchat> ZdArKx: sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:50] <DBO> silvaran, doy...
[10:50] <Spudchat> and it worked out the box for me
[10:50] <DBO> thanks
[10:50] <youBun2> I was told to download SystemRescueCD and I have
[10:50] <youBun2> I have it on CD now
[10:50] <youBun2> And I am unsure what the hell I should do now
[10:51] <Terminus> flax^^: i didn't see any script mentioned on that page. :|
[10:51] <nickrud> youBun2, are you trying to fix your grub boot?
[10:51] <youBun2> nickrud, Yes I am sir
[10:51] <ZdArKx> Thanks!
[10:51] <nickrud> youBun2, to boot windows or ubuntu
[10:51] <Terminus> flax^^: i forgot to ask how you mounted the drive. you probably need something like 'mount -o umask=0222 /dev/hdX? /mnt/point'
[10:51] <youBun2> nickrud, Windows XP
[10:51] <calloc> anyone help with a mysql config? Im trying to connect to mysql on my ubuntu box from a windows machines, Ive allowed the rules in firewall etc and I have also added a mysql user that is allowed to connect from anywhere, but I still canno connect, can anyone help?
[10:51] <dibblego> calloc: check that the machine has TCP/3306 open
[10:51] <nickrud> youBun2, ubuntu's booting ok
[10:52] <nickrud> ?
[10:52] <Terminus> flax^^: where X is a letter representing the drive and ? is a number representing the partition. :)
[10:52] <youBun2> nickrud, Yes, yes it is
[10:52] <nickrud> and windows in on the first partition of the first disk?
[10:52] <DBO> isnt MySQL by default setup only to allow loopback conenctions?
[10:52] <Terminus> flax^^: sorry, forgot to prepend sudo to that.
[10:52] <youBun2> nickrud, From what I have gathered today, I am basically one of the few who's install of Ubuntu hasn't gone as planned and somwhere along the lines my Windows boot has gone AWOL
[10:52] <dibblego> DBO: you'd still be able to make the connection - just not authenticate
[10:53] <dibblego> unless you mean it binds to 127.0.0.1, which I am not aware of
[10:53] <dibblego> you could easily check it anyway
[10:53] <nickrud> youBun2, so I gathered. And one last question - is it serial ata, or regular ide
[10:53] <calloc> dibblego, I have 3306 open
[10:53] <Phlosten> morning all
[10:53] <dibblego> calloc: is it accessible from the remote machine? telnet machine 3306
[10:53] <Terminus> flax^^: oh... found the line mentioning the script. =D
[10:53] <flax^^> Terminus, its mounted now, though i can only acces it through system->admin.->disks
[10:53] <Phazeman> can somebody please tell me which repository i miss for the gkrellm-skins and xmms-skins ?
[10:54] <youBun2> nickrud, Could you elaborate on that for me?
[10:54] <nickrud> youBun2, can I pm you?
[10:54] <youBun2> nickrud, Sure you can
[10:54] <nickrud> youBun2, are you registered with freenode , you can pm :)
[10:54] <calloc> dibblego, no, cannot connect to host when I try to telnet to it
[10:54] <dibblego> calloc: but you can from the local machine?
[10:54] <Terminus> flax^^: can you please paste the result of 'grep ntfs /etc/fstab'?
[10:54] <youBun2> nickrud, I can't say I am =(
[10:54] <nickrud> !register
[10:54] <ubotu> it has been said that register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[10:55] <gnomefreak> it doesnt look like he is
[10:55] <rel> does smeone know how I can disable gnome-screensaver. It's crashing my pc
[10:55] <calloc> dibblego, yes Im running phpmyadmin on the ubuntu box
[10:55] <Terminus> flax^^: i'm not really handy with the gui stuff so could you open a terminal for that? thanks.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> normally /whois will tell you if they are identifyed
[10:55] <youBun2> xD
[10:55] <nickrud> ah, thanks
[10:55] <dibblego> calloc: does that mean you have successfully made a TCP connection to localhost?
[10:55] <dibblego> telnet localhost 3306 does what?
[10:55] <nickrud> I don't know irc well at all
[10:56] <phaedral> i installed debian testing, but think I want to start over with ubuntu instead
[10:56] <phaedral> should I be able to just fire up the ubuntu installer and have it recognize the partitions I've set up?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> nickrud: your identified ;)
[10:56] <nickrud> youBun2, if you don't want to register, you can join #nickrud
[10:57] <Phlosten> rel, system->preferences->screensaver and set it to no screensaver
[10:57] <calloc> dibblego, yes connection made on the localhost,  just says connect failed
[10:57] <portatil> hi
[10:57] <dibblego> calloc: how can it say "connectio failed" yet you made the connection?
[10:57] <batman> is there a command to restore the trash?
[10:57] <portatil> how install avasta antivirus in ubuntu, help me
[10:58] <nickrud> youBun2, I do think I know an easy method to get your windows booting, I just need to know a few things
[10:59] <gnomefreak> !avasta
[10:59] <ubotu> gnomefreak: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:59] <calloc> dibblego, I can view phpmyadmin running on the ubuntu box that is running mysql, bit I can not connect to the mysql server on 3306 from the windows machine
[10:59] <dibblego> calloc: try connecting from the actual machine - telnet localhost 3306 - can you make that connection?
[10:59] <dibblego> don't wory about phpmyadmin
[10:59] <gnomefreak> portatil: why not use clamav? its easy to install i dont ever remember seeing avasta in repos
[10:59] <flax^^> ok Terminus, igot a terminal open now
[10:59] <DBO> is there any difference between ubuntu and edubuntu other than installed packages?
[11:00] <dibblego> establish how the TCP port is set up first
[11:00] <youBun2> nickrud, I'm there buddy
[11:00] <gnomefreak> DBO: the looks
[11:00] <gnomefreak> DBO: artwork wise
[11:00] <turix> i tried to setup eterm
[11:00] <DBO> gnomefreak, thats it though?
[11:00] <Terminus> flax^^: please paste the result of 'grep ntfs /etc/fstab' here. it should be only one line. if there's no result, please tell me. :)
[11:01] <turix> but i didnt get a "eterm" in my /usr/bin/
[11:01] <batman> seriously can someone tell me if there is a way to restore after emptying the trash?
[11:01] <dibblego> after that try connecting on the interface that you are connecting to remotely - telnet thehostname 3306
[11:01] <turix> what do i need to do?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> DBO: the packages are the biggest differnce
[11:01] <portatil> where is a spanish chat for ubuntu
[11:01] <gnomefreak> everything else is editible
[11:01] <DBO> but you can still get those with the regular ubuntu no?
[11:01] <dibblego> batman: cp -R ~/.Trash
[11:01] <gnomefreak> DBO: yes but not default
[11:01] <DBO> ok
[11:01] <DBO> thats what I wanted to hear
[11:01] <Terminus> flax^^: copying and pasting on linux consists of highlighting the text, going to the target app, and using the middle button to paste.
[11:01] <DBO> sorry for the stupid questions
[11:02] <gnomefreak> DBO: its ok but i dont think ther eis an iso for edubuntu
[11:02] <batman> dibblego, i emptied the trash >.<
[11:02] <prakashbaasha> anyone: when I do a `find / -name filename` I get a message  "find:WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this is bug in you filesystem". Is anything wrong in FS
[11:02] <flax^^> Terminus, uhm, ok
[11:02] <sailor> Guys, I'm trying to install dapper onto my HDD to dual boot with Breezy and windows, but the partitioner is not letting me use the unused space on the disk... can someone help me? It's saying it might be because I have too many partitions on my disk, but I only have four and thought I could have more than that...
[11:03] <Spudchat> no ideas about an aim server?
[11:03] <calloc> dibblego, I can connect when I ssh into the ubuntu box and telnet to localhost 3306
[11:04] <dextroso> sailor: 4 is the maximum, try ranish partition manager
[11:04] <dibblego> calloc: what about when you use the actual hostname from the local machine?
[11:04] <Terminus> sailor: all four of your partitions are probably primary partitions. you're gonna have to convert one of them to an extended partition and fill that up with logical partitions.
[11:04] <dibblego> telnet hostname 3306 (not from a remote machine - from the local machine)
[11:05] <sailor> Terminus, all four are primary... converting is going to erase them though, yes?
[11:05] <dibblego> where 'hostname' is the same interface that your remote machine would be using normally
[11:05] <Athirson> hi
[11:05] <Athirson> can somebody in here help?
[11:05] <Terminus> sailor: just one of them, and yes, it's gonna mean it's gonna get trashed.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[11:05] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:05] <Athirson> how can i install tar.gz
[11:06] <Terminus> sailor: at least now you know that you should always make the 4th partition an extended partition. =D
[11:06] <calloc> dibblego, hostname on the localbox, connects fine
[11:06] <batman> so is there a way i can restore what i deleted from the trash after it has been emptied?
[11:06] <DBO> hmmm, should my CPU be spiking to 100% when switching MP3's in XMMS?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Athirson about compile
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Athirson about tar
[11:06] <portatil> i need a quick guide for install avast antivirus in ubuntu
[11:07] <gripner> so smarty ppl, any bright ideas why dapper install find my vt8251 sata controller, but no disks connected to it >_<
[11:07] <gnomefreak> Athirson: what are you trying to install?
[11:07] <Spudchat> Athirson: thats source code usually, gunzip and then youll have a filename.tar, then tar -xf filename.tar and then your ready to compile
[11:07] <sailor> Terminus, seriously... OK, so partition #4 is swap, 1 gig, and there are 8 gigs of unused space at the end of the drive... could I delete the swap and convert that now 9 gigs of space to extended, then install dapper and swap on that 4th partition?
[11:08] <prakashbaasha> hello please help me: I get the following error when I do a find / -name filename: find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in you
[11:08] <prakashbaasha> esystem driver.
[11:08] <Athirson> ok how can i install a game
[11:08] <gnomefreak> prakashbaasha: try locate file
[11:08] <Terminus> sailor: yep. take note that breezy is dependent on that swap partition so you're gonna have to tell it that the location changed.
[11:08] <sailor> Terminus, how do I do that?
[11:08] <Athirson> how can i install a game
[11:09] <gnomefreak> sailor: 1 gig is enough for any amount of ram
[11:09] <gnomefreak> Athirson: what game?
[11:09] <sailor> Terminus, especially since it isn't going to want to boot
[11:09] <Athirson> rpm
[11:09] <prakashbaasha> gnomefreak: I am able to find the correct file but still I was getting the message!!!! I was wondering is there anyway to check if my filesystem is correct or broken
[11:09] <Athirson> rpm package
[11:09] <eugman> subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 means what exactly?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> Athirson: this is not an rpm distro look for a .deb
[11:09] <Terminus> sailor: change the swap line for breezy in /etc/fstab. on the bright side, you can use one swap partition for both breezy and dapper. :)
[11:09] <sailor> gnomefreak, yeah, I'd be putting just 1 gig of swap in that extended partition
[11:10] <Athirson> yes but how do i install from .deb
[11:10] <sailor> Terminus, thanks for the help, here's hoping I don't trash my system :)
[11:10] <gripner> prakashbaasha: the msg you got dont mean the filesystem is corupt dont worry
[11:10] <Spudchat> Athirson: did you try searching for the game with synaptic?
[11:10] <Terminus> sailor: you're welcome. i hope so too. :)
[11:10] <Athirson> yes
[11:10] <DBO> oop, nevermind, figured out my MP3 issue
[11:10] <DBO> IMMS was spiking it
[11:10] <gnomefreak> Athirson: on the site for the game look for a deb package
[11:10] <criminy> Athirson: I think you can install .deb files with dpkg
[11:10] <prakashbaasha> gnomefreak: cool thanks....
[11:11] <gnomefreak> Athirson: after downloading it run sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:11] <Spudchat> Athirson: if you find a .deb, then dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:11] <flax^^> hmm, when i had windows, i had a map with a wierd char in the name, it was like a little ring, now that i mounted that disk i cant see that folder :( anyway to go around this?
[11:11] <Spudchat> yeah forgot the sudo eheh
[11:11] <eugman> QAnyone know how to fix a broken clocate?
[11:11] <flax^^> map folder*
[11:11] <prakashbaasha> gripner:cool thanks
[11:11] <Terminus> flax^^: wb. you fixed the umask problem already? :)
[11:11] <Athirson> thanks alot
[11:12] <gnomefreak> eugman: dapper?
[11:12] <flax^^> yeah, now i can browse the disk just fine :)
[11:12] <eugman> er slocate and no breezy
[11:12] <ruzgar> is there a debian package for "ruby on rail"
[11:12] <gnomefreak> eugman: i think there is a bug on that
[11:12] <Terminus> flax^^: cool. don't know anything about your new problem. hehe.
[11:13] <eugman> Does that just mean I'm not alone or is there a fix.
[11:13] <h36sa> flax^^: windows doesn't let you name things with weird chars
[11:13] <flax^^> k, i have one idea though, get the hd in my brothers comp, which runs win, change the name there, then pop it back into my bob
[11:13] <flax^^> box*
[11:13] <Athirson> so i cant run rpm on ubuntu?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> eugman: that means check launchpad.net for a bug on that if its there there might be a fix for it
[11:13] <ompaul> ruzgar, there is a package called rails and it is in universe
[11:13] <h36sa> that's a bunk solution
[11:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Athirson about alien
[11:14] <ompaul> Athirson, correct - not the way to go
[11:14] <Morrowyn> Athirson,   sudo apt-get install alien  && man alien
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ompaul: tried that one already
[11:14] <jdmpike> when is the Dapper Release Candidate available?
[11:14] <ompaul> Athirson, what is the package
[11:14] <flax^^> h36sa, it does, not every wierd char but some :)
[11:14] <gnomefreak> jdmpike: not sure yet
[11:15] <Athirson> it is tuxracer.rpm
[11:15] <Athirson> how do i open it
[11:15] <ompaul> Athirson, that exists on Ubuntu
[11:15] <jdmpike> how many people in here are running Flight 5?
[11:15] <h36sa> Athirson: apt-get install tuxracer
[11:15] <ruzgar> ompaul thanks
[11:15] <ompaul> jdmpike, they should all be in the channel #ubuntu+1 not here
[11:16] <Athirson> then how do i do with the tar.gz
[11:16] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Athirson about synaptic
[11:16] <ompaul> Athirson, n o you don't do that either
[11:16] <Spudchat> Athirson: all you need to do is open the terminal and sudo apt-get install tuxracer
[11:17] <ompaul> !tell Athirson about universe
[11:17] <linuxboyfriend> what option should i give to apt-get so that if any thing fails to download, apt automatically retry to download it?
[11:17] <samuel_> hello
[11:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Athirson about apt
[11:17] <ompaul> Athirson, add universe as the url the bot tells you about and then install it
[11:17] <gopi> TV application ...... what is that Zapper ?
[11:17] <samuel_> I'm a new Ubuntu Convert
[11:17] <samuel_> When is dapper being released?
[11:18] <Terminus> if i installed ubuntu with the server option and then apt-get kubuntu-desktop, it should be just like i installed from the kubuntu cd right?
[11:18] <gopi> I forgot the exact name of it..... Is it Zapper ?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> samuel_: not sure atm
[11:18] <ompaul> samuel_, who knows 4 weeks 10 weeks it will be annouced soon
[11:18] <gnomefreak> samuel_: give us a week
[11:18] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, hi
[11:18] <djm62> gopi: zapping
[11:18] <gnomefreak> hi
[11:18] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, can you tell me what i asked
[11:18] <gopi> djm62: ah thanks a lot !!!!
[11:18] <djm62> samuel_: June
[11:18] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, :)
[11:19] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: no i ignored you earlier
[11:19] <samuel_> I still dual boot XP/ubuntu as my family are so use to windows.... so I have grub to dual boot, can I make it so the grub menu is hidden somewhat....as in I have to press a key to load ubuntu instead of windows.... and put a password on grub...
[11:19] <ompaul> now there is smooth, took out an old DVD player only installed DVD R/R +RW and it works off the shelf no mods no nothing
[11:19] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, hmm, lemme reprint
[11:20] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, what option should i give to apt-get so that if any thing fails to download, apt automatically retry to download it?
[11:20] <samuel_> my wife gets annoyed when ubuntu loads...shes computer ignorant
[11:20] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: not sure if there is one try man apt-get
[11:20] <Stormx2> samuel_: You can rearrange the menu so it boots windows by default
[11:20] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, i tried man but nothing is there
[11:20] <painkiler> hey guys
[11:20] <Phlosten> samuel_, put on a Windows XP splash screen
[11:20] <samuel_> ok
[11:20] <Stormx2> samuel_: As for password, well, ubuntu has passwords :P
[11:20] <djm62> samuel_: it's only a matter of time- dapper will be easier than vista
[11:20] <Terminus> samuel_: you could make windows the default in /boot/grub/menu.lst. :)
[11:21] <samuel_> cool
[11:21] <samuel_> thank you
[11:21] <h36sa> djm62: haha yeah right
[11:21] <painkiler> i always forget this...
[11:21] <gnomefreak> !apt
[11:21] <ubotu> I heard apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[11:21] <samuel_> Gnome is so smooth
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ^^ linuxboyfriend try there too
[11:21] <Terminus> and shorten the wait time to something like 3 seconds. hehe
[11:21] <painkiler> how do i xorg.conf in a gui?
[11:21] <painkiler> i forget
[11:21] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg painkiler
[11:21] <painkiler> thanx
[11:21] <samuel_> last question promise..can i run kde along side gnome? if so how?
[11:21] <rel> samuel_: try resizing gnome-terminal :P
[11:21] <gnomefreak> samuel_: yes sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <djm62> h36sa: I spent the night attempting to get windows working, for a woman who consistently called IE "google" and didn't know that firefox, which was installed on her system, was a web browser
[11:21] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, what do u mean?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: go to the link that ubotu posted about apt
[11:22] <avs> hello, can anyone tell me why ctrl-alt-backspace just dumps me to a text terminal instead of restarting X
[11:22] <gnomefreak> avs: log in type startx
[11:22] <h36sa> samuel_: yeah.. you can use xnest or load kde, then start new session->gnome then ctrl+alt+f7/f8
[11:22] <samuel_> thanks everyone, i'll try that
[11:22] <paganini> Is there any way to get the background image in gnome-terminal to scale to whatever size your terminal window is?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> avs: it drops you to tty because tty is non X
[11:23] <mwright1night> does epiphany use the gecko engine?
[11:23] <ruzgar> how can i format a etc3 harddisk partition in gnome interface
[11:23] <djm62> h36sa: she is who HIG are aimed at: scared to use things with funny names, scared to update windows because it's pirated, scared by the whole damn affair
[11:23] <h36sa> djm62: you think ubuntu is the answer?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> mwright1night: yes iirc
[11:23] <samuel_> ok it's asking for a password.... on installation it only asked me to create a user password, what is the root password ?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> user password
[11:23] <FlannelKing> !sudo
[11:23] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:23] <Mnemic> Guys, do u have any idea why my Sound card aint working ?
[11:24] <h36sa> sudo passwd root
[11:24] <h36sa> sudo su
[11:24] <djm62> h36sa: this is -offtopic, but using a computer is so damn painful for her, ubuntu would certainly be no worse, and probably much better, than XP
[11:24] <ompaul> samuel_, you can change the order of booting (open a terminal Applicaitons Accessories Terminal and then >>sudo  nano /boot/grub/menu.lst<< and there look for the word "default" it has a "0" opposite it change it something higher maybe 3 or 2  try rebooting it will sort that and she does not have to do anything
[11:24] <avs> gnomefreak: thanks, that worked. If I can't go over 1024x768, is that a monitor thing or graphics card? installed nvidia drivers but that didnt help
[11:24] <samuel_> thank you
[11:25] <h36sa> djm62: one problem is that, being clueless, she is going to need lots of support. and there are a LOT more people knowledgable in XP than in *ix
[11:25] <Mnemic> !sound
[11:25] <ubotu> [sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:25] <gnomefreak> avs: that could be any of the above ill have ubotu send you a link
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell avs about fixres
[11:25] <avs> thanks
[11:25] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:26] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:26] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:26] <mrj> Can anyone explain how to change the name it shows for one of my mounted partitions?  All are normal (size then the word Volume,) except for one that says "r($course);"
[11:26] <h36sa> mrj: samba share?
[11:26] <h36sa> mrj: check the bottom of /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:26] <mrj> h36sa:  Nope, just a regular partition (vfat)
[11:27] <h36sa> er?
[11:27] <silvaran> Is there a good util to share sets of folders (not an entire home directory) between two ubuntu installations, mirroring them and keeping them sync'd, even after a (12-24 hour) disconnect?
[11:27] <h36sa> they don't really have names
[11:27] <h36sa> just device and mount points
[11:27] <h36sa> silvaran: rsync
[11:27] <h36sa> but it's hard to configure
[11:28] <silvaran> The difficulty is I don't want to have to do it manually (cron's not enough), and if I'm connected, I want any changes on one machine to appear on the other immediately.
[11:28] <ruzgar> in gparted i cant change disc partitons it is always "locked"
[11:28] <fluoro> Hi guys, quick question: Is gcc-4.1 in Dapper?  I'm searching for it in synaptic and I can't find it.
[11:28] <ruzgar> can anyone help me
[11:28] <fluoro> But I see gcj-4.1, so I'm confused.
[11:28] <silvaran> rsync's not really peer-to-peer, it's more of a server->client / repository thing
[11:28] <Athirson> how do i complie a rpm
[11:29] <silvaran> fluoro: #ubuntu+1 might be a better place.
[11:29] <_jason> ruzgar: are the partitions mounted?
[11:29] <ruzgar> yes
[11:29] <Russel> hiho i have a problem with upgrading
[11:29] <ruzgar> when i right click them i only see "unmount" button
[11:29] <ruzgar> i open it with root user
[11:29] <Athirson> how do i complie a rpm package
[11:29] <_jason> ruzgar: unmount them or boot a livecd and use gparted from there
[11:29] <fluoro> silvaran: Thanks.
[11:29] <h36sa> silvaran: let me know if you figure something out
[11:29] <silvaran> h36sa: yah
[11:29] <ruzgar> hm ok i'll try
[11:29] <samuel_> I have been searching for an alternative to Windows for two years and ubuntu is the first distro that kicks ass!
[11:29] <_jason> Athirson: why?
[11:29] <fernashes> Athirson: use alien
[11:30] <Athirson> how
[11:30] <mrj> ruzgar:  the lock means they are mounted.  You can't mess with a mounted partition safely.  You should boot from a livecd and them make alterations to the drives while they are all unmounted.
[11:30] <Russel> i have a package that should be removed but the remove skript inside dpkg trhows an error at me... is it possible to delete the package from the deb list?
[11:30] <fernashes> first... sudo apt-get install alien
[11:30] <ruzgar> mrj i have only knoppix live cd
[11:30] <h36sa> samuel_: not quite the first :)
[11:30] <silvaran> Does ubuntu come with gfs?
[11:30] <ruzgar> how can i formak a harddisk with kde interface
[11:30] <mrj> ruzgar:  Thats ok, you can use any livecd with qtparted or gparted
[11:30] <_jason> Athirson: if it is in the repositories or avaiable as an ubuntu deb it is preferrable to using the rpm.  rpm's can break your system
[11:30] <fernashes> then... providing your terminal is already in the correct directory, e.g. desktop, sudo alien docname
[11:30] <joh6nn> where would i go to report that the dependencies for a package need to be updated?
[11:30] <mrj> rezgar:  qtparted
[11:30] <Superslash> Good Morning Ubuntunam! Having a hell of a time installing breezy badger 5.10, it works fine up until the partition manager and that works fine too. But it doesnt recognize that i've already formatted and partitioned the drive for winxp, and left about 80gigs of unformatted space for ubuntu to install to.
[11:30] <Athirson> thx
[11:31] <ruzgar> ok i'll try qtparted
[11:31] <fernashes> then ... sudo dkpg -i packagename.deb
[11:31] <Athirson> so how do i open deb files
[11:31] <fernashes> see my last comment
[11:31] <joh6nn> Superslash: define "doesn't recognize"
[11:31] <fernashes> then ... sudo dkpg -i packagename.deb
[11:32] <fernashes> Athirson: note that alien is fairly experimental, could be that it won't compile correctly.
[11:32] <samuel_> how do I convert my wife and children to ubuntu, they have a voice in their head that says "use windows or bill gates will kill you, and your life will turn to shit"
[11:32] <Athirson> ok
[11:32] <snowblink> samuel_, frozen bubble
[11:32] <NickGarve1> samuel_: dual boot
[11:32] <miro> e
[11:32] <NickGarve1> hahaha
[11:32] <NickGarve1> I love that game
[11:32] <fernashes> Athirson, good luck
[11:32] <Athirson> thnx
[11:32] <fernashes> samuel_, lol!
[11:32] <_jason> samuel_: install a virus on window?
[11:33] <Tiberian> wohoo :D Finally i made the screen!! :D
[11:33] <NickGarve1> haha samuel_, I know a way to force a blue screen
[11:33] <fernashes> samuel_, install Ubuntu with a dual boot, and the next time they use the computer, make sure Ubuntu is already booted and cofigured?
[11:33] <_jason> samuel_: seriously just exaplin to them what you like about it and let them try it
[11:33] <Tiberian> Ubugtu, sound asap :p
[11:33] <_jason> explain even
[11:33] <snowblink> samuel_, I'm actually being serious about frozen bubble BTW. It works on kids and adults very well
[11:33] <Tiberian> hm..
[11:34] <Tiberian> !sound
[11:34] <ubotu> [sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:34] <Bilange> i think samuel needs to install xgl/compiz on its ubuntu installation ;)
[11:34] <jdprc06> hey i need some help
[11:34] <samuel_> I dual boot, but when ubuntu is loaded they are like 'where is the any key?" and they freak out...
[11:34] <ompaul> Athirson, you install in ubuntu using syanptic and or apt-get - you need a repo called universe for that package the bot has told you what to do in order to improve your repos so that you may get up to 17500+ packages
[11:34] <cribbon> how do i remove a value from the system->prefs->sessions->autostart using only console commands?
[11:34] <_jason> samuel_: help them
[11:34] <fernashes> jdprc06, what's up?
[11:34] <jdprc06> I get this error when I try to update with apt-get E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:34] <jdprc06> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[11:35] <ispiked> jdprc06: sudo
[11:35] <kbrooks> jdprc06, sudo.
[11:35] <fernashes> have you got synapse open?
[11:35] <kbrooks> jdprc06, sudo apt-get update
[11:35] <_jason> cribbon: edit the file ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[11:35] <kbrooks> fernashes, read the error: no
[11:35] <jdprc06> nothing happens
[11:35] <fernashes> kbrooks, isn't that the same error that you get then ? ooh, oops, permission denied - so no. :)
[11:35] <joh6nn> jdprc06: you need to type "sudo apt-get update"
[11:35] <kbrooks> jdprc06, password.
[11:35] <diffuser78> hi
[11:36] <kbrooks> joh6nn, hint hint: wherer?'
[11:36] <jdprc06> nothing happens when i do sudo
[11:36] <diffuser78> hi _thumper_
[11:36] <samuel_> gnome look is a wicked site
[11:36] <joh6nn> kbrooks: err... what?
[11:36] <_jason> jdprc06: don't put sudo by itself, it precedes commands
[11:36] <jdprc06> i know
[11:36] <_jason> jdprc06: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?
[11:36] <jdprc06> joseph@UBUNTUJOey:~$ sudo apt-get autoclean
[11:37] <jdprc06> joseph is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:37] <jdprc06> i just added myself to the sudoers group
[11:37] <_jason> jdprc06: is this the user you created during install?
[11:37] <jdprc06> yeah but i used expert
[11:37] <peterx2> jdprc: maybe synaptic is open.
[11:37] <jdprc06> it's given me a lot of problems
[11:37] <_jason> jdprc06: paste what your /etc/sudoers looks like
[11:37] <_jason> jdprc06: on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:38] <Bilange> peterx2: i think it would give him another error message, if synaptic was opened
[11:38] <davro> does any one know of a way to reload the .bashrc once it has been edited, without opening a new terminal ?bash reload ?
[11:38] <joh6nn> davro: "source .bashrc"
[11:38] <avs> hello, tried everything from the FixVideoResolutionHowto, but im still stuck with 1024x768
[11:38] <jdprc06> i can't access it
[11:38] <kbrooks> jdprc06, don't use expert unless you are on a server
[11:38] <cribbon> _jason, hrm, i cannot find the values i addes in ~.gnome2/session
[11:38] <_jason> jdprc06: su to root (type 'su')
[11:39] <cribbon> _jason, the file session-manual does not exist.
[11:39] <jdprc06> ok
[11:39] <GnarusLeo> avs, have you tried to set you res manually by edititing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:39] <fernashes> error for when synaptic or other apt-get is open: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:39] <fernashes> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:39] <jdprc06> that worked
[11:39] <avs> yep, been there done that
[11:39] <jdprc06> i can open synaptic now
[11:39] <peterx2> bilange: my eyes focus on the word locked.. just a possibility
[11:39] <yggdrasil> how can i format partition in fat32 .... mkfs.vfat /dev/hda7 ?
[11:39] <ompaul> fernashes, are you using synaptic or apt-get for anything else while your looking for it?
[11:39] <diffuser78> is this the best chat place
[11:40] <mwe> jdprc06: you need to be in the admin group and log out and back in or su - <user>
[11:40] <GnarusLeo> avs, the whole point is to add the proper resolutions to the file, so that gnome can "see" wich res. it can choose from ...
[11:40] <diffuser78> i am waiting for somebody here
[11:40] <_jason> diffuser78: no this is the best support place
[11:40] <lucas> command to check current network usage?
[11:40] <_jason> diffuser78: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:40] <avs> GnarusLeo
[11:40] <fernashes> ompaul, it's not a problem it was an example for the question what the error would look like if Synaptic was also open. :)
[11:40] <jdprc06> i am in admin
[11:40] <thomas`1> hello
[11:40] <diffuser78> i was waiting on a friend who said
[11:40] <jdprc06> i guess i'm not in sudoers
[11:40] <Russel> any list where apt stores the installed packages?
[11:40] <ompaul> fernashes, well ya had me fooled :0-
[11:40] <diffuser78> he will meet me in freenode
[11:40] <bsm> hi, when i boot ubuntu i get a filesystem check every time. it always fails at 10% and sends me to console, where i can go on booting with ctr+d. filesystem is clean when i run fsck from outside ubuntu, ideas anyone?
[11:40] <peterx2> jdprc06: isf you can open synaptic the sudo must be working.. suspect you can easily download from there.
[11:40] <_jason> jdprc06: did you put /etc/sudoers on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[11:40] <DBO> erm, foomatic is asking me for my default keyring password, but I dont think I have one, what do I do
[11:40] <ompaul> fernashes, :-)
[11:40] <thomas`1> i need help fixing my gnome keyboard i set it to 104 instead of pc104 how can i fix?
[11:40] <fernashes> ompaul, thanks for wanting to help, though
[11:40] <diffuser78> is this ubuntu chat forum
[11:40] <ompaul> diffuser78, not in this channel
[11:40] <mwe> jdprc06: you need to be in the admin group
[11:41] <thomas`1> i cant type any letters in my account
[11:41] <jdprc06> i am in the admin group
[11:41] <fernashes> diffuser78,  this is the chat / support forum, for things on topic for ubuntu
[11:41] <thomas`1> so if i cna fix it its gotta be done thru terminal with root account
[11:41] <ompaul> diffuser78, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help channel
[11:41] <mwe> jdprc06: and you already were?
[11:41] <jdprc06> is this bad? (synaptic:8782): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[11:41] <jdprc06> (synaptic:8782): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[11:41] <jdprc06> (synaptic:8782): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed
[11:41] <diffuser78> ohh
[11:41] <Skwid_> hey !
[11:41] <avs> GnarusLeo: i did that, not too sure about my hsync and vsync, but they should be right
[11:41] <_jason> jdprc06: admin group only works in expert install if you fix /etc/sudoers
[11:41] <diffuser78> i am ubuntu user
[11:41] <diffuser78> from usa
[11:41] <jdprc06> ok
[11:41] <samuel_> what is the most popular gnome theme out there?
[11:41] <davro> joh6nn, cheers for that !
[11:41] <diffuser78> i love coding and was suppposed to meet a friend for python
[11:41] <Fire> is there a hq for dapper development?
[11:41] <_jason> samuel_: check gnome-look.org
[11:41] <joh6nn> davro: np
[11:41] <ompaul> diffuser78, okay I say one last time, please join the channel #ubuntu-offtopic this is not a chat channel
[11:42] <diffuser78> ok
[11:42] <diffuser78> thans
[11:42] <diffuser78> thanks
[11:42] <GnarusLeo> avs, 4:3 screen? Anyhow, Ill paste my xorg.conf file for you (though its WXGA) ... give me a sec
[11:42] <Athirson> how do i set icons from a program to my desktop
[11:42] <mwe> jdprc06: but can you get root access at all=
[11:42] <avs> GnarusLeo, 16:10 screen
[11:42] <jdprc06> yes
[11:42] <fernashes> samuel_, I prefer clear looks
[11:42] <jdprc06> in terminal
[11:42] <mwe> jdprc06: then as root type visudo
[11:43] <azurehuesofblue> Athirson, find the exec file and makelink... I think.
[11:43] <mwe> jdprc06: then add %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:43] <thomas`1> scuse me what is the notepad editor in terminal mode? i cant use gedit
[11:43] <ompaul> Fire, go to the channel #ubuntu+1
[11:43] <Athirson> but i will do it on comandline interface
[11:43] <GnarusLeo> avs, ok, take a look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10420
[11:43] <NickGarve1> thomas`1: gmacs or vi
[11:43] <thomas`1> k
[11:43] <fernashes> thomas`1, I;d say vim, since I know that's installed and it's my preference
[11:43] <thomas`1> cuz i need to fix my keyboard layout.. i cant type any letters inmy username account
[11:44] <thomas`1> i set it to 104 instead of pc104
[11:44] <thomas`1> and it just screwed...
[11:44] <fernashes> Athirson, is the program you want in the applications menu ?
[11:44] <thomas`1> need to edit gnome kbd somehow
[11:44] <shiv> how do I uninstall programs in wine after installing them?
[11:44] <jdprc06> do i need the %?
[11:44] <thomas`1> from here
[11:44] <_jason> jdprc06: yes
[11:44] <jdprc06> ok
[11:44] <joh6nn> thomas`1: i believe nano is configured by default, with a somewhat intuitive set of shortcuts and what not
[11:44] <ompaul> thomas`1, do this >>>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<<
[11:44] <jdprc06> i added it under user privilege specification
[11:44] <jdprc06> how do i save this
[11:45] <thomas`1> k ill brb if i run into anything
[11:45] <jdprc06> just exit out?
[11:45] <mwe> jdprc06: visudo will only let you save the file if it doesn't have typos
[11:45] <jdprc06> ok but what command saves
[11:45] <_jason> jdprc06: if it opened in vim press ESC, ZZ.  If it was nano, ctrl-o and then ctrl-x
[11:45] <mwe> jdprc06: did you change $EDITOR?
[11:46] <GnarusLeo> why does not "cat /var/syslog > /dev/tty12 && echo" update itself? It just freeses (no update) .. is there a better way to echo the syslog in a tty?
[11:46] <jdprc06> ok i closed out
[11:46] <_jason> jdprc06: exit and try sudo again
[11:46] <mwe> jdprc06: did it save it?
[11:46] <jdprc06> yeah it's still in there
[11:46] <Russel> i want to remove a package, but the post-removal failes, anybody a solution?
[11:46] <jdprc06> yes! my sudo commands work
[11:46] <jdprc06> thank you
[11:47] <mwe> Russel: a simple solution is sometimes to reinstall it, then remove it
[11:47] <fernashes> Russel, how is it failing ?
[11:47] <jdprc06> but what are these errors? (synaptic:8988): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[11:47] <jdprc06> (synaptic:8988): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[11:47] <Russel> fernashes, it failes because it doesn't find a tool which is removed by dist-upgrade
[11:48] <mwe> jdprc06: now you can disable root login to increase security
[11:48] <fernashes> Russel: command line or synaptic?
[11:48] <Russel> try installing
[11:48] <Russel> fernashes, command line
[11:48] <jdprc06> in visudo?
[11:48] <jdprc06> i'm sorry. i'm quite a noob here
[11:49] <mwe> jdprc06: no
[11:49] <mwe> jdprc06: sudo passwd -l root
[11:49] <Tiberian> Guys, you have any idea why i don't have sound ? :)
[11:49] <mclamb> hi can you help me... I get this error with GnomeBaker -->  Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)
[11:49] <paradizelost> anyone know how to get rid of the damn Shift+Backspace that kills Xgl?
[11:49] <ompaul> Tiberian, what kind of sound card have you got
[11:49] <jdprc06> ok
[11:50] <jdprc06> now i don't have root access at all?
[11:50] <Russel> reinstalling doesn't work because initramfs tools depends on a higher kernel (which is installed but doesn't work)
[11:50] <mwe> jdprc06: yes with sudo
[11:50] <paradizelost> Also, how do i change the xterm background back to black?
[11:50] <mwe> jdprc06: sudo -i will give you a root prompt
[11:50] <fernashes> paradizelost: make a profile
[11:50] <Tiberian> ompaul, SB Audigy LS
[11:50] <jdprc06> ok
[11:50] <mwe> jdprc06: but you can't log in as root anymore
[11:50] <thegladiator> i am trying to write an ISO to a cd ... it says 100 % in k3b and is trying to "close session" but that is taking forever , what can I do to interupt this ?
[11:50] <paradizelost> fernashes: what do you mean by make a profile?
[11:50] <paradizelost> fernashes: what kind of profile?
[11:50] <jdprc06> thanks
[11:50] <_jason> jdprc06: you have to do one more thing if you want your recovery mode to work
[11:50] <jdprc06> ok
[11:50] <jdprc06> what?
[11:51] <mclamb> hi can you help me... I get this error with GnomeBaker -->  Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)
[11:51] <_jason> jdprc06: change the password field in /etc/shadow to '*' without the quotes
[11:51] <_jason> jdprc06: for root of course
[11:51] <fernashes> paradizelost: start xterm, file -> new profile. Enter profile name -> ok. Then you'll be in a config screen for the color schemes and such
[11:51] <mwe> _jason: so what does that do?
[11:51] <thegladiator> i am trying to write an ISO to a cd ... it says 100 % in k3b and is trying to "close session" but that is taking forever , what can I do to interupt this ?
[11:51] <paradizelost> fernashes: xterm doesn't have a file menu
[11:52] <ompaul> Tiberian, ooch, it has been a "horrible" card to work with, for starters double click on the "speaker" icon on the top of your screen
[11:52] <ompaul> Tiberian, second check nothing is muted (and believe me something is)
[11:52] <fernashes> paradizelost: sorry, was thinking of Gnome terminal.
[11:52] <Tiberian> ompaul, trust me... it's not :P~
[11:52] <avs> GnarusLeo: thanks, now ive got my 1680x1050 running at 1280x768, thats a start. I think the problem is in modeline. what exactly goes in there?
[11:52] <ompaul> Tiberian, the other way to do this is to type this in a terminal
[11:52] <_jason> mwe: passwd -l gives root a password that can't be entered.  When you try to enter recovery mode it will prompt you for that password.  Of course, you can't enter it!  This brings it back to normal so that it just brings up the root prompt without requiring a password
[11:53] <_jason> mwe, jdprc06: it's explained in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:53] <fernashes> paradizelost: are you using xterm as extra program or do you mean tty1 etc?
[11:53] <paradizelost> _jason: try this.  at your grub prompt, append to the end of the kernel line    init=/bin/bash
[11:53] <paradizelost> fernashes: i mean alt+f2 xterm
[11:53] <Russel> argh big problem: i use an older kernel (2.6.8) and initramfs-tools want a new kernel, but i can't install a new kernel because initramfs-tools aren't properly installed
[11:53] <thegladiator> i am trying to write an ISO to a cd ... it says 100 % in k3b and is trying to "close session" but that is taking forever , what can I do to interupt this ?
[11:53] <GnarusLeo> avs, im not really sure, but you should consider setting these settings in the "dbpk-reconfigure xorg-server" advance option
[11:53] <paradizelost> _jason: then boot, it will take you to a bash shell
[11:54] <paradizelost> then you mount -o remount,rw /
[11:54] <_jason> paradizelost: yep, works too
[11:54] <ompaul> Tiberian, alsamixer and play with that again looking for something muted
[11:54] <thegladiator> i think I am going to close the program and see
[11:54] <_jason> paradizelost: I'm set, I was just exaplining
[11:54] <paradizelost> then type in /usr/bin/passwd
[11:54] <_jason> explaining even
[11:54] <paradizelost> k
[11:54] <paradizelost> ahh k
[11:54] <avs> GnarusLeo: ok, ill do that. does your temperatur monitor work in the nvidia util?
[11:54] <ubushine> hello world
[11:54] <GnarusLeo> avs, as you can see, im using ATI's fglrx
[11:54] <_jason> ubushine: hello
[11:54] <paradizelost> fernashes: i've got Xgl w/ compiz up and running, but it changed the background of the xterms to white.
[11:54] <fernashes> paradizelost: ah, ok. not sure
[11:55] <avs> GnarusLeo: whoops, that was another xorg.conf i was looking at, sorry
[11:55] <fernashes> paradizelost: sorry, over my head
[11:55] <ubushine> anyone using enligtenment? e16 or e17?
[11:55] <paradizelost> fernashes: Ok.  i kinda figured it might be a bit of a toughy
[11:55] <GnarusLeo> avs :)
[11:55] <paradizelost> fernashes: you know where i can change the Shift+backspace that kills X now that Xgl is running?
[11:55] <fernashes> paradizelost: I've seen it mentioned on the starters guide for Ubuntu
[11:56] <h36sa> paradizelost: ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[11:56] <davro> join #lugradio
[11:56] <paradizelost> h36sa: no, now that i'm running Xgl, shift backspace does that as well.
[11:56] <paradizelost> h36sa: and i don't know how to change the behavior
[11:56] <h36sa> lame
[11:56] <h36sa> you in gnome?
[11:56] <paradizelost> yep
[11:57] <h36sa> it might be a gnome key binding..
[11:57] <h36sa> probably not but worth a shot
[11:57] <Tiberian> ompaul, 1) Im sure it's nothing muted.. 2) dont have alsamix... [ o_O ??? ] 
[11:57] <RageMax> anyone know what the package name for the fluendo gstreamer mp3 plugin is?
[11:57] <RageMax> on dapper drake that is
[11:57] <paradizelost> can't find anything in gconf-editor
[11:57] <fernashes> RageMax: apt-cache search fluendo ... ?
[11:57] <RageMax> did that
[11:57] <RageMax> only came up with the fluendo server
[11:58] <paradizelost> well, i suppose i should get going to the bar.  it may help me think
[11:58] <ompaul> Tiberian, its one of those cards it is muted - simple - and alsamixer << is the command
[11:58] <fernashes> RageMax: you've got all the standard repositories ?
[11:58] <paradizelost> see ya all later
[11:59] <Superslash> Anyone here good with partitions? Breezy Badger 5.10 doesnt recognize my drive as being already formatted and partitioned (with about 80gigs of unformatted space in a partition just for ubuntu). It just shows a single unformatted 200gig hdd
[11:59] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody knows where I can disable the autostarting of Konqueror and/or KsCD upon inserting a CD/inserting an USB pendrive? (in Breezy/KDE3.4.3)
[11:59] <zF> What's the deb for mplayer in mozilla?
[11:59] <zF> I forgot the name
[11:59] <jdprc06> in etc/shadow, is everything following 'root : ' the password?