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leafw rysiek|pl : in the System Settings, or whenever you plug in something push "config" in the menu12:05
neoncodeWhen you first launch kaffene you get that first run wizzard thing, how do you run that again?12:05
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rysiek|plleafw: if you're gonna tell me it's in System Settings -> Storage Media or something, then no, it's not, it's KDE 3.4.312:06
CheeseBurgerManUpdate to KDE 3.5.1 ;)12:06
rysiek|plleafw: and which menu are you talking about :)12:06
rysiek|plCheeseBurgerMan: I'll wait for Dapper stable12:06
rysiek|plit's my production system and I spent the better part of the last 3 months cofiguring it12:07
rysiek|pl:)12:07
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leafwrysiek|pl: when you plug a usb pen, a popup comes up: just push the right button there to config12:07
leafwI may be wrong, I'm speaking from the top of my head12:07
rysiek|plleafw: well, you are wrong - as I said, it's KDE 3.4.312:08
rysiek|plJust the Konqueror pops up12:08
leafwrysiek|pl: then see the kded settings in some obscure folder under /usr/local12:09
White_HerringLOL, my sister's 300mhz laptop has the same processor cache as my athalon 64 3500+12:09
White_Herringi didnt see that coming12:09
leafwrysiek|pl: or disable it completely in the System Services (a tab in the System Settings)12:09
rysiek|plleafw: kded, sais you.... giving it a go ;)12:09
leafwkded is a service in the System Settings - KDE Components - Service Manager12:10
leafwthe "kded media manager", these are the keywords for greping12:11
nico8481any idea where to find kcontrol in the menus ?12:11
leafwkcontrol == System Settings12:11
rysiek|plleafw: got it... but it's nice to have the drives mounted, just to disable the konqueror popping12:12
rysiek|plno, it's not ==12:12
rysiek|plKControl is a *lot* more robust, IMHO12:12
leafwrysiek|pl: this is an option in the kded media manager config files, I disabled it once upon a time in kde 3.4 because it was failing miserably and eating up RAM12:12
rysiek|plleafw: well, it works ok, just to get the popping konq... looking intoconf files for kded - remeber which one was it?12:14
leafwrysiek|pl: "media manager", these are the keywords ...12:14
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rysiek|plleafw: and where should I do the search? google? :] 12:14
leafwrysiek|pl: I remember at the bottom of the config file there is this autoload or something like that that needs to be disabled12:15
leafwrysiek|pl: in your /usr folder :)12:15
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rysiek|plargh! been looking in ~/.kde :] 12:15
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rysiek|plleafw: might it be this little thingy: X-KDE-Kded-autoload=true ? :)12:19
leafwrysiek|pl: yes12:19
leafwand beware there may be a second config file12:20
leafwor two lines12:20
leafwit was more than just one line, but not more than 2 o 3 xDD long time12:20
rysiek|plwell, ok, but I suppose it will disable the automounting the devices12:20
leafwautomounting is fine, it's the autoload you don't want12:20
leafwthey are separate12:20
rysiek|plleafw: X-KDE-Kded-autoload=true and X-KDE-Kded-load-on-demand=true12:20
leafwrysiek|pl: yeah, that is12:21
leafwwhich file it is by the way? Full path?12:21
rysiek|pl/usr/share/services/kded/mediamanager.desktop :)12:21
leafwthanks12:21
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rysiek|plthanks? whoa, who helped whom? :] 12:22
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leafw:)12:22
rysiek|plthank you :)12:22
leafwamazing what one can do with a few keywords and grep, uh12:22
rysiek|playe :)12:23
Red_Herringgrep! its a funny word12:23
leafw"get regular expression"12:23
Red_Herringw00t12:23
nico8481rysiek|pl: so any idea where to find it? (kcontrol)12:24
leafwnico8481: the binary? Under /usr/local/X11/bin maybe ?12:24
rysiek|plnico8481: well I have it in KMenu -> Preferences -> Control Center12:24
rysiek|plbut that's because I upgraded from Hoary12:25
nico8481leafw: nope in the menus, because it's obviously not the same as "system settings"12:25
leafwnico8481: just create a new entry in the menu for it12:25
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nico8481rysiek|pl: you have a "Preferences" in your main K menu ??12:25
nico8481leafw: yup that's an idea... just checking if it's not already there, hiding somewhere :)12:26
rysiek|plnico8481: yep :)12:26
leafwnico8481: it isn't, that's why SysSets are there12:26
nico8481rysiek|pl: lol i haven't got :) i wonder if i haven't broken my kde install :P12:27
rysiek|plleafw: well, shit, kded still fires Konqueror off... will poweroff and go to sleep, and then test it when the system gets up in the morning though :)12:27
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rysiek|plnico8481: no, it's me to blame, I have an upgraded Hoary12:27
Red_Herringanyone know how to log convos in kopete?12:27
leafwrysiek|pl: there are a few settings, other than the autoload and load and demand12:27
leafwrysiek|pl: just check them all12:27
Red_Herringjust wondering ;-)12:27
rysiek|plRed_Herring: there is a History module or smthng like that12:28
Red_Herringhrm12:28
nico8481rysiek|pl: yup me too, upgraded from hoary to whatever is the codename for 5.10 (under gnome), then did an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :P12:28
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Red_Herringits not logging, but its close enough12:29
CrashoverideHey guys I need a bittorent client for Kubuntu what should I get?12:29
Red_Herringktorrent12:29
rysiek|plnico8481: but I had KUBUNTU Hoary, that's the point :)12:29
HirvinenCrashoveride: Azureus?12:29
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Crashoverideok12:29
Crashoveridety12:29
rysiek|plwow, that was quick :] 12:29
Red_Herringlol12:29
nico8481rysiek|pl: ok i got the picture :)12:29
Red_Herringthats our style12:30
rysiek|plquick'n'dirty? :)12:30
Red_Herring:-P12:30
rysiek|plyou didn't tell him Azareus will eat up 80% of his CPU... ;)12:30
Snake__Im back!! :)12:30
leafwspeaking about bit torrent, you guys need to know about a fantastic music site (all music is Creative Commons) that offers bit torrents and m3u: http://www.jamendo.com/us/12:30
Datsunzosoim havin trouble playin video on firefox, can someone just tell me what program they use for video and the plugin?12:30
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Red_Herringw00t12:30
rysiek|plok, gonna get some sleep, cu all12:31
Red_HerringDatsunzoso: mozilla-mplayer12:31
Datsunzosoive been trying to use that but everytime i wanna see a video it doesnt work12:31
Datsunzosoit just shows me the "missing plugin" thing on firefox12:31
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Datsunzososigh :(12:33
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Datsunzosoanyone think they can help me?12:42
Datsunzosoim havin trouble playin video on firefox, can someone just tell me what program they use for video and the plugin?12:42
Datsunzosoer... ive been using mplayer but it doesnt work12:42
moimplayer plugin12:42
Datsunzosoyea ... it doesnt work12:42
moiDatsunzoso: sudo aptitude install mozilla-mplayer12:43
moithen, restart firefox and try12:43
Datsunzoso.... :| mplayer does not work12:43
moi:(12:43
Datsunzosoive restarted firefox12:43
Datsunzosoi even tried vlc media player and it doesnt work12:43
moitry in a konsole "mplayer some_video.mpg" and tell me what happen12:43
Datsunzosoi can play the file but i want it to be in the firefox window, not open a different window12:44
Datsunzosobut in order to play file i also have to save it to hd12:44
moitry "about:plugins" in firefox and say me what you see12:45
Datsunzosohmm, niether the mplayer nor the vlc plugins show up12:45
moithey were badly installed ! i can see them in my firefox !12:46
moiDatsunzoso: close ALL firefoxes, then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-mplayer" then restart firefox and try "about:plugins"12:47
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Datsunzosousr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mozilla-mplayer is broken or not fully installed12:49
Datsunzosonot fully installed?12:49
Datsunzosolol12:49
slow-motionn812:50
moiDatsunzoso: sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-mplayer12:50
moi Datsunzoso: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer12:50
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DatsunzosoCould not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                able)12:52
DatsunzosoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                ess using it?12:52
Datsunzosowhat does that mean?12:53
moiDatsunzoso: do you forget the "sudo" before ?12:53
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moiof do you have something else using dpkg launched, like adept or synaptic ?12:54
Datsunzosoer yea i got adept open12:54
Datsunzososrry12:54
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Datsunzosowell12:55
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Datsunzosoer it stll doesnt show up in the plugins place12:56
moi:(12:56
moiit looks installed correctly now ?12:56
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Datsunzosowell i think it is installed correctly, but it still doesnt show up on firefox in the about:plugins12:57
MasterWolfi all ready windows installed. how do i partition my HD12:58
MasterWolfi all ready have windows installed. how do i partition my HD12:59
moiDatsunzoso: dpkg -L mozilla-mplayer | grep so12:59
Datsunzosook12:59
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Datsunzosoanything else?01:00
moiMasterWolf: you need a FREE space or partition on your hard driver in order to install ubuntu if you dont want to partition it at install time !01:00
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moiMasterWolf: I suggest you to reduce your last partition by the space you want to give to your kubuntu installation01:00
moiDatsunzoso: what rsult do you get ?01:01
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MasterWolfi dont have a partition yet01:01
moiMasterWolf: if you have non partitionned free space, is ok ;)01:01
Datsunzosoit just showed me bunch of files in the usr folder01:01
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moiok, so it looks like it was well installed :(01:02
MasterWolfi still want to run windows01:02
Datsunzosoyea looks to be that way01:02
Datsunzosobut still no video nor any info in about01:02
moiMasterWolf: no problem, ubuntu doesn't remove your windows by default !01:03
MasterWolfdose Kubuntu01:03
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Datsunzosowierd01:03
moibut in computing, 100% succes doesn't exist, so I suggest you, as in any other os installation, to save (burn) your important datas (even if I never damages anything installing linux)01:04
moiDatsunzoso: which version of ubuntu / firefox / mplayer plug-in do you have ?01:04
MasterWolfdose Kubuntu remove windows01:06
Datsunzosofirefox : 1.5.0.1       mplayer : idk            kubuntu : 5.1001:06
Red_Herringwow01:06
moiMasterWolf: no01:06
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Red_Herringok, the mplayer plugin is for 1.0.701:06
moiMasterWolf: but if you doesn't have enough free space (I mean NON PARTITIONNED space) the installation suimply fail01:06
MasterWolfhow much do i need01:07
Viper550Hello, the Dapper Kubuntu art looks quite ugly...01:07
Datsunzoso?01:07
Red_HerringViper550: aggreed01:07
moiMasterWolf: I don't know, I think 2 Go is ok to install some software and data01:07
Red_Herringon the other hand, the dapper Ubuntu art looks AMAZING01:07
Red_Herringif you set orange --> blue01:08
AnObfuscatorHow do I take a screenshot in Kubuntu?01:08
Viper550I even sent a rant to ubuntu-art mailing list!01:08
Red_HerringAnObfuscator: ksnapshot01:08
Viper550kmenu>graphics>Screen Capture Program (ksnapshot)01:08
AnObfuscatorRedherring: thanks01:08
moi4, 5, 6 go...01:08
AnObfuscatorviper: thanks01:08
Viper550You welcome, well that's how it is on KDE on Ubuntu...01:08
Red_Herringim going back to GNOME today01:09
Viper550My new idea is to make Kubuntu orange as well with a simliar layout to Gnome on Ubuntu and Ubuntulooks01:09
Viper550Even though it came out first, the Polyester theme looks alot like Ubuntulooks.01:10
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Viper550Want an excerpt from my rant?01:12
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Viper550anyone?01:13
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CheeseBurgerManViper550: If you don't like the way it looks, you can change it.01:13
Viper550I know that...01:14
Viper550And I don't even use Kubuntu...but I am still concerned01:14
Viper550Just like how people are concerned about the high usage of "The N word" on the Adult Swim show "The Boondocks"01:14
Viper550But, some of the protestors (like me) don't even watch it!01:15
CheeseBurgerManBRB01:15
AngryBaconwhy would you want to give KDE a similar layout to gnome01:18
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CheeseBurgerManOK, back01:20
CheeseBurgerManLol, I dunno01:20
MasterWolflater01:21
Viper550FoX desktop does that...01:21
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Viper550http://www.foxlinux.org/uploads/photos/107.jpg01:23
CheeseBurgerManWow, looks like GNOME. ;)01:23
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AngryBaconbut why01:24
AngryBaconif you want gnome01:24
AngryBaconget gnome01:24
Viper550I have Gnome01:24
AngryBacongood for you, don't impose that layout on kubuntu users01:25
Viper550I said I use KDE 3.5 on Ubuntu01:25
AngryBaconoh01:25
AngryBacondidn't see that01:25
AngryBaconand you just said you have gnome01:25
Viper550http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5672/kubuntudapper6vw.jpg01:26
Viper550I primarly use KDE, but keep Gnome as secondary for compatability purposes01:27
Viper550I use many window managers!01:27
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AngryBaconare you any good with running apps on wine, no one is one the wine channel01:27
bouncingDoes dapper kubuntu have a really simple wrapper for ipchains/whatnot that'll setup a firewall?01:28
bouncingI seem to remember that, but I can't find it.01:28
AngryBaconfirestarter, if i recall01:28
bouncingI think firestarter's universe, so it scared me.01:28
AngryBaconoh01:28
ryanakcaumm... Angry Bacon.. what channel are you on?01:28
bouncingactually I tried it and it didn't work.01:28
ryanakcaare you trying #wine?01:29
AngryBaconi tried #winehq01:29
AngryBaconwhich is the correct channel01:29
bouncingI also tried kmyfirewall and it gave me weird errors.01:29
Viper550The link is http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb01:29
ryanakcayeah01:29
AngryBaconi have wine01:29
Viper550If you want to install Wine on Ubuntu...01:29
ryanakcatheres 118 people on #winehq01:29
simiandoes anyone else find that kaudiocreater just sits there and does nothing once click rip? (dapper)01:29
bouncingAlso, on dapper... I think automounting for my usb hard drive went away... :/01:29
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Viper550I'm just protecting people from ugly desktops!01:31
Viper550The reason many people were turned away by Ubuntu is because of its default Brown.01:31
Viper550But now, it's orange! Orange is tolerable.01:31
Viper550Purple is kinda like Brown color wise, not many people would like it as default01:32
simianlol01:32
Viper550It's also consistancy01:33
Viper550Consistancy=EXCELLENT!!!01:33
generalyes!01:33
Viper550Who wants Kubuntu in a more tolerable color?01:34
ryanakcaViper550: yes, ubuntu was... too... dark...01:34
ryanakcaViper550: Kubuntu has a very tolerable blue :)01:34
Viper550But the new Orange looks much better, and I even got it to work on Breezy!01:34
Dan200kubuntu is blue, i like it :s01:34
Viper550And of course, Blue is also good because it's the KDE color01:35
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generalthe blue is too light01:35
ryanakcayeah01:35
Viper550But, this shift to Purple is still a bad thing!01:35
bouncingdapper has a nice qt-gtk thing... my gtk apps look very KDE now.01:35
Dan200purple? are there screenshots of it?01:35
ryanakcaI like the green I set up... polyester/polymer or something like that...01:35
Viper550http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=594&slide=3&title=kubuntu+6.04+flight+5+screenshots01:35
Viper550And the new wallpaper= :(01:36
generalthis one is nice01:36
Viper550If you really wanted to do something, use a different wallpaper, style and metacity01:36
Dan200eugh01:36
Viper550Suse2, Polyester, and something other than those bubbles would look better01:37
simiansuse desktops do look well polished01:38
Viper550Yes, very professional indeed.01:38
Viper550Their bootsplash is even consistant, and they don't worry about the "ohh, the framebuffer can makes things broken"01:38
simiani'm just not that keen on yast201:39
Viper550...phobia thing that Ubuntu does01:39
simiantheir boot splash is cool01:39
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Viper550Yes it is! Nice and blue!01:39
Viper550You use Cogeco cable too Farous?01:40
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Viper550If you wanted better colors, just try the colors off the cake on the Kubuntu homepage.01:41
ryanakcajust a sec, I'm making a screenshot of my setup...01:41
Viper550Heck, a cyan would look better...wait that is the cake color!01:41
Viper550Ubuntulooks looks nice in Cyan actually01:43
HobbseeViper550: ooh, screenie?01:43
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Viper550No, I was just experimenting with this and that, cyan!01:45
farousanyone know why with the latest updates my system became irratic and unstable? talking about breezy here? for example w, who are giving me problams. Also dual head xinerama started to give me problams were half the screen was not displayed last time i gave a presentation01:45
ryanakcahttp://24.226.20.171/sreenshot.png01:46
ryanakcanow that is my setup... I find it much nicer than the default blue... and I found an awesome icon set...01:47
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simianryanakca: that's nice...what icon set is that?01:48
ryanakcaumm... just a sec... I forget...01:48
ryanakcasimian: kNeu theme01:48
simiani'll have to try that01:49
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simianryanakca: your time looks cool01:49
ryanakcasimian: ty, you can get the icons here: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Icons/kNeu-5497.shtml01:50
ryanakcasimian: for the clock "sudo apt-get install styleclock"01:51
simianryanakca: thanks01:51
ryanakcasimian: just add it as an applet, and that theme/look is the centurion theme (it comes in the default apt package)01:52
CheeseBurgerManhttp://serv2.imagehigh.com/files/ih000001/7866_snapshot4.jpg <--- There's mine :)01:56
ryanakcawhat's kubuntu's slogan?01:57
simiannice silver01:57
Kyralryanakca, same as Ubuntu's01:58
ryanakcayes, very nice... I think I'd get tired of it after a while though... but still, very nice01:58
ryanakcaKyral: ty01:58
CheeseBurgerManThanks. :)01:58
CheeseBurgerManIt's very clean - which is why I like it.01:58
simiangot to go to bed01:58
Dan200supertux? :/01:58
CheeseBurgerManG'night.01:58
simiannight all01:58
CheeseBurgerManlol01:58
CheeseBurgerManYes01:58
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Jambonis there a way to have konqeror close tabs on middle click?02:29
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nico8481anyone uses the latest kubuntu and has an AC/DC CD to test something?02:31
nico8481I think there's a bug in the way KDE (or whatever) handles results from freedb... I'd like to check if it's been fixed in the latest versions...02:32
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nico8481(AC/DC or any band with a "/" in its name)02:35
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arathey02:36
CheeseBurgerManhello02:36
aratsup?02:36
arati want knoppix std02:37
aratwhere can i get it02:37
aleksanderjeeeeeeez hellota people02:37
Red_Herringstd?02:37
arat?02:37
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aratwell my firend has it and it has hacking tools02:37
aratLOL02:37
Red_Herringi suggest WHAX02:37
aratWHAX?02:38
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Red_Herringits a livecd that has plenty of hacking tools02:38
aratLOL02:38
Red_Herringhrm, i think the world is infected with LOLitis02:39
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aleksanderanyone knows about why amule rejects connections to servers02:39
aleksander?02:39
Red_Herringdapper?02:39
Red_Herringi dunno, i was just trying it02:40
aleksanderyes02:40
Red_Herringit says something like "cannot access file /home/"02:40
aleksandermy amule works fine02:40
Red_Herringno02:40
Red_Herringin the corner02:40
Jambonhow do i make konqeror close tabs on middle click?02:40
aleksanderit's not that02:40
Red_Herringit works fine other than that02:40
Red_Herringwhen you get the server list?02:40
aleksandermy own amule works fine, but02:41
aleksanderi'vej just installed fresh dapper on my girlfrind's box02:41
Red_Herringw00t02:41
Red_Herringcongrats02:41
aleksanderand amule won't connect to servers02:42
aleksander;<02:42
aratwhere can i get WHAX02:42
Red_Herringdistrowatch.com has a nice list02:42
aleksandercan be sth with iptables, or what should i check?02:43
aleksanderi got the same server.met which works fine with my box02:43
Red_Herringim not sure02:43
Jambonanyone? konqueror tabs?02:44
aleksanderi mean the same server.met02:44
aleksanderthe default gruk.org is empty or what?02:45
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evoxHello02:51
evoxI need help on Themes for KDE02:51
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evoxCan I get some help?02:57
evoxWith the Themes?02:57
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patrixsup evox02:58
patrixI rmeember you from a few days ago02:58
evoxYo02:59
patrixproblem with k themes?02:59
evoxI need help finding some themes02:59
evoxIs there any more sites other than Kde-look.org02:59
evoxand what Do I need to install em?02:59
patrixthemes.org ?02:59
patrixmost ppl who make themes send em up to kde-look anyway02:59
evoxBecause I have a Dark abstract wallpaper and it looks awkward with a Bright ass Panel03:00
patrixhehe03:00
patrixidneed03:00
patrixso make your panel darker, no need for themes03:00
evoxHow?03:00
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patrixhmm I'm not logged into KDE right now, ubt I believe you can right0click the panel, panel config, and somewhere in there select colors03:01
patrixlemme xnest into it03:01
Jambonpatrix: still playing with GNOME?03:01
patrixJambon, hehe yes03:01
patrixJambon, I actually like it ;)03:01
patrixamarok's still here with me though, rhythmbox has nothing on it!03:01
Jambontrue dat03:02
Jamboni'm trying out kde03:02
Jambonso we even out03:02
Jamboni'm actually liking it03:02
patrixyeah03:02
Jambonkonqueror is really fast03:02
patrixwell for me I guess it's just the human instinct for change03:02
patrixbeen a KDE-only user for about 2 years03:02
Jambonalthough i wish i could get it to close tabs on middle click03:03
patrixconfigure it ;)03:03
patrixI think you can. never tried03:03
patrixmouse gestures are nice though03:03
Jamboni can't find it03:03
Jambonbut 2 years is longer than me for anything03:03
Jambonin the last month or so, i've had quite a journdy03:03
patrixevox, well for the panel color.. you can set a bg image, make it transparent, or make it match your theme's color.. so then you can set your colors in the settings -> appearance -> color03:03
Jambonjourney: Ubuntu Breezy ->elive 0.3 -> elive 0.4 -> freebsd 6.1 -> ubuntu dapper ->kubuntu dapper03:04
Jambonall in about 5 weeks03:04
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patrixevox, to install themes, it depends on what you're trying to install... to install a .ktheme file, you need to launch kcontrol (not the System Settings app) and go to theme manager and install it from there03:05
evoxkk thanks03:05
patrixJambon, hehe nice. I'm actually a hardcore FreeBSD-er since a year ago03:05
patrixJambon, but poor multimedia support (I wanted to use skype or gizmo for VOIP) led me back to Linux03:05
patrixso I decided, 2 weeks ago, let's try kubuntu03:05
patrixand I loved it;)03:05
Jamboni couldn't stand freebsd03:06
patrixheh03:07
Jambonyou have to configure EVERYTHING03:07
patrixYES03:07
patrixno not true03:07
patrixNetBSd you have to configure even more03:07
patrixFreeBSd was a good balance03:07
Jambonouch03:07
Red_Herringno, Gentoo is onne of the worst03:07
Jambonwell seeing as sound didn't work for me03:07
patrixstill have it on my server, where it belongs03:07
Jambonamonst other things03:07
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Red_Herringi got debian on my server, where it will stay03:07
Jamboncompiling programs takes ages03:07
patrixI actually switched to BSD because I had a terrible debian accident on my webserver03:07
Red_Herringyea03:07
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patrixconvinced me the BSD way of seperating "Base system" and "ports (applcications)" is a freakin good design decision03:08
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evoxWow..........This transparency thing goes great03:08
patrix:D03:09
evoxThanks again patrix03:09
Red_HerringXGL ownz03:09
patrixno probm evox03:09
Red_Herringi cant stand it any other way now03:09
patrixRed_Herring, so you're on Dapper eh. i'm still on breezy03:09
Red_HerringWOBBLY WINDOWS!03:09
patrixlol!03:09
Red_Herringpatrix: yup!03:09
evoxOnce again Bill gates should die.....Linux is free and better......03:09
patrixRed_Herring, did you install from a dapper flight CD, or upgrade from breezy?03:09
Red_Herringdapper flight cd03:10
patrixah ok03:10
patrixwell i'll wait, I'm patient ;)03:10
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Red_Herringim keeping my breezy partition until dapper goes stable03:10
luanshengthis is the first time that i use the kubuntu03:12
CheeseBurgerMancongrats03:12
luanshengthanks03:12
CheeseBurgerMan:)03:13
luanshenghehe03:13
luanshengcan i ask you a question?03:13
Red_Herringbtw the people at #kubuntu are the FRIENDLYEST and CLeanest of all chatrooms out there03:13
Red_Herringright?03:13
Red_Herring;-)03:13
CheeseBurgerManWhy...03:14
CheeseBurgerManOf course!03:14
luanshengcan kubuntu give me a fast speed for open window?03:14
CheeseBurgerManEh?03:14
luanshengi feel some slow when i open application window in kde03:15
Red_Herringyea, i know what you mean03:15
Red_Herringchange the theme to one thats not so fancy03:15
luanshengwhich theme?03:15
Red_Herringi dunno, your choice03:16
CheeseBurgerManSystem Settings > Appearence > Window Decorations (or something like that)03:16
luanshengcan you suggest me?03:16
CheeseBurgerManI use "web"03:16
Red_Herringhrm, try some out03:16
Red_Herringanything but baghira03:16
luanshengok03:16
Red_Herringwow that one is slow03:16
CheeseBurgerManlol03:16
luanshengthanks for your suggestion!03:17
Red_Herringthats what we are here for!03:17
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Red_Herringthat and tricking my friends into thinking there are sexual predators out to get them03:17
CheeseBurgerManOkaaaaaaaaay03:17
Red_Herring(thanks Snake|ONAIR)03:18
Red_Herring:-P03:18
Snake|ONAIRRed_Herring: huh whats up?03:18
Snake|ONAIROh03:18
Snake|ONAIR:)03:18
Red_Herringnothin, just thankign you03:18
Snake|ONAIRRed_Herring: wanna tune into my music?03:18
Red_Herringsure03:18
Red_Herringwhy not?03:18
Snake|ONAIRRed_Herring: http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net (your gonna fill up the server!)03:18
Red_Herringah, dyndns?03:19
Snake|ONAIRRed_Herring: Its a irish speical right now...itll be over in a bit03:19
Snake|ONAIROf course03:19
Red_Herringi have a .selfip.com one03:19
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Red_Herringrj.selfip.com03:19
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evoxYo I need more help03:28
evoxI need help on installing my Flash Plugin03:28
Red_Herringever try easyubuntu?03:29
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Red_Herring!easyubuntu03:29
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu03:29
patrixhey evox03:29
evoxYo03:29
patrixno03:29
evoxI have the plug in03:29
patrixeasyubuntu doesn't work quite well in kubuntu03:29
patrixfrom my experience anywya03:29
evoxWhat directory to I place it in?03:29
evoxAll I need to to is paste it and Im done03:29
evoxWhat Do I paste it in?03:29
patrixI've installed the package flashplayer-mozilla03:29
Red_Herringuse easyubuntu03:29
patrixand that took care of it all for me03:29
Red_Herringdont bother with the officall thing03:30
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patrixRed_Herring, easyubuntu couldn't modify my sources.list properly and required some futzing around, so I personally cant' recommend it03:30
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Red_Herringyea03:30
patrixbut I knew enough about apt and python to read its source code and figure out what it di dand do it manually03:30
Red_Herringbut it beats automatix03:30
patrixnothing beats knowing what you're doing ;)03:30
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evoxany idea on where I paste it?03:30
patrixevox, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla03:31
patrixdon't bother with the official flash package, this wil install it at the right places03:31
patrixyou might have to enable some extra apt repositories in order to get that package, evox, and we cna help you with doing that :)03:31
evoxIve already Enabled them to get the GStreamer package03:32
evoxOh wait........It cant find the package....03:32
evoxI have it already downloaded I just need to know where to place the files03:32
patrixyou need to enable to multiverse repos03:33
evoxI think they are enabled03:33
patrixmaybe you have enabled universe03:33
patrixyou need multiverse too :)03:33
patrixit's a big big big universe out there ;)03:33
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evox.........How Do I enable them?03:33
Red_Herring!repos03:33
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:33
evoxRobotgeek helped me enable some repositories03:34
patrixevox: the way I did it (which didn't exactly match the ionstructions I saw somewhere) was to add "multiverse" after universe in any line that has universe03:34
patrixdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe  multiverse03:34
patrixyes that was basically it03:34
evoxWhats that?03:34
patrixopen /etc/apt/sources.list  (with sudo kate  or whatever you like to use to edit files)03:35
evoxok03:35
patrixand find the line that looks similar to the line above03:35
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patrixI'm assuming yo're on Breezy, not Dapper03:35
evoxyea its breezy03:35
patrixk03:35
patrixme too ;)03:36
patrixso find that line with the unverse repo03:36
patrixand add multiverse at the end03:36
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patrixgot it, evox?03:37
evoxOne of them already says this "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse "03:38
patrixthat's the backports03:38
evoxand the other is the same with just Univers03:38
patrixyou're looking for a line liek the one I pasted above03:39
patrixdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe  multiverse03:39
patrixsee, I added multiverse at the end03:39
evox# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe03:39
evox?03:39
patrixthose are security updates03:39
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patrixbut you might as well enable that one too03:39
patrixremove the # at the beginning, and add multiverse at the end03:40
evox# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe03:40
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evoxThat it?03:40
patrixyeah03:40
evoxjust put Multiverse at the end?03:40
patrixremove the # at the beginning and add multiverse ( all in small letters) at the end03:40
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evoxBAH!! it says I dont have  write abilitys or someshit03:41
patrixyou didn't edit it using sudo ;)03:41
patrixlike03:41
evoxIm using Kate03:41
patrixsudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:41
sniffis someone able to please tell me how to use the webshortcuts in konqueror effectively?03:41
Red_Herringno, use kdesu03:41
Red_Herringnot sudo03:41
sniffkdesu03:41
patrixsame thing03:41
Red_Herringno03:41
sniffdon't sudo kde apps03:41
Red_Herringnot at all03:42
patrixI do it all the time03:42
CheeseBurgerManWell...don't. :P03:42
CheeseBurgerManI used to...I have reformed. ;)03:42
patrixok I'm gonna sudo all my gnome apps then! :P :P :P03:42
sniffanyway Kate is sh*t, use   kdesu kwrite ???03:42
evoxStill says I dont have write acess03:42
patrixsniff, kwrite's not installed by default03:42
sniffit is for me03:42
CheeseBurgerManYes it is, but it's not placed in the K Menu03:42
sniffjust not in the menu03:43
evoxStill says I dont have write acess03:43
patrixoh ok sniff ;)03:43
patrixevox, how did you launch it?03:43
sniffso what about these webshortcuts then?03:43
evoxI went through the Kmenu03:43
patrixargh03:43
evoxthen tried that Konsole method03:43
patrixyes03:43
patrixin konsole:03:43
CheeseBurgerManevox: Exit Kate/KWrite03:43
patrixkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:44
fatejudgerwhere is amarok-gstreamer for Dapper?03:44
fatejudgerdid it just disappear?03:44
sniffkdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list03:44
sniffkate is a shambles imho03:44
Red_Herringlol03:44
Red_Herringa bit03:44
CheeseBurgerManYup03:44
patrixanything's better than gedit that still can't save files over network connections like all kde apps can ;)03:45
sniffi don't see why they include kate in the menu but not kwrite03:45
fatejudgerkate is awesome03:45
CheeseBurgerManpatrix: I use vi over gedit :P03:45
patrixthey should include vim and emacs and nothing else! ;)03:45
patrixCheeseBurgerMan, I use vim all the time too man03:45
sniffpatrix: that's because KDE has the kio slaves03:45
patrix<--- Linux user since 199603:45
CheeseBurgerMan<--- Linux user since 2006 :P03:45
Red_Herringnice03:45
patrix;)03:45
Red_Herringlinux user since 200503:45
Red_Herringjanuary03:45
snifflinux since last month03:45
fatejudger200303:46
fatejudgeron and off though03:46
Red_Herringfirst distro was mandrakelinux03:46
sniff!webshortcuts03:46
ubotusniff: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:46
patrixI was in #linux in 1996 for the first time, back when this place was openprojects.net and not freenode.net, and I got a marriage proposal within seconds, cause some guy mistook my real name (Patrice) as a girl's name, not a guy's name03:46
sniffballs03:46
Red_Herringthen i saw kubuntu03:46
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evoxOk now what?03:46
CheeseBurgerManlol03:46
Red_Herringused it ever since03:46
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evoxOk now what?03:46
patrixevox, you made all the hcanges?03:46
patrixincluding removing the # at the beginning of the important lines?03:46
evoxJust to that one line03:46
CheeseBurgerManI started with Ubuntu, disliked GNOME, and installed Kubuntu03:46
evoxyes03:46
CheeseBurgerMan:P03:46
evoxJust to that one line03:47
evoxyes03:47
patrixevox: which line exactly?03:47
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evoxOh hell......You had to ask me after i close kate03:47
patrix;)03:47
patrixit's for a good cause.. I wanna make sure everytying's right in order to avoid trouble ;)03:47
evoxdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe  multiverse03:48
patrixgood!03:48
patrixok03:48
evoxNow what?03:48
patrixnow in the konsole, type:03:48
patrixsudo apt-get install03:48
patrixer03:49
patrixer03:49
patrixer03:49
patrixerwiat03:49
patrixlol03:49
patrixsudo apt-get update03:49
patrixthat's better03:49
evoxThen try that Install thingy?03:49
patrixthen once that's done,03:49
patrixsudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla  (or was it mozilla-flashplugin ? something like that, scroll up to see)03:50
sniff!mozilla-flashplayer03:50
ubotusniff: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:50
sniffno, it's not03:50
patrixlol03:50
patrixwell I have flashplayer-mozilla  installed here03:51
evoxIts installing03:51
patrixgood :D03:51
patrixnow I can take a break and bbiab03:51
evoxlol ok03:51
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Snake|ONAIRRed_Herring: is that you tuned in?03:58
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Red_Herringno... im having computer troubles03:58
Red_Herringsorry03:58
Snake|ONAIRHmm03:58
Snake|ONAIRit says 4 are connected03:58
Snake|ONAIRbut who03:58
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systemofadownquick question: is kubuntu  missing kwrited?03:58
Red_Herringkwrited?03:58
Snake|ONAIRsystemofadown: yulp it appears so03:58
systemofadownSnake|ONAIR:  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah dammit03:59
systemofadownSnake|ONAIR: I kinda need it03:59
Snake|ONAIRsystemofadown: sudo apt-get install kwrited ?03:59
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Snake|ONAIRwtf?03:59
systemofadownSnake|ONAIR:  no packages04:00
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Snake|ONAIRsystemofadown: what kind of program is it!? Its not even in the repos...04:00
admrlsystemofadown: i dont see it04:00
Snake|ONAIRsystemofadown: Perhaps try kate?04:00
systemofadownyou know i mean kwrited and not kwrite?04:01
Snake|ONAIRIm not exactly sure what kwrited is.. :(04:01
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admrlsystemofadown: he asked what kind of program it is04:01
systemofadownit displays system wide broadcast messages?04:02
Snake|ONAIRAh04:02
Snake|ONAIRhmm04:02
systemofadown. not ?04:02
Snake|ONAIRIm not really sure :(04:02
Snake|ONAIRsorry man04:02
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neoncodeHow do i burn a .cdr CD image?04:05
patrixevox: so.. it workeD?04:07
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admrlneoncode: k3b..?04:09
neoncodeadmrl: k3b carn't recognise the file as a valid CD image...04:10
admrloh idk04:10
_andrewHi, I'm looking for mplayer binaries for kubuntu, where do I look ( or ask ) ?04:11
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neoncode_andrew: Try the repos?04:11
_andrewI'm using standard source list.  Nothing about mplayer in it.04:12
neoncode_andrew: You have to enable universe and multiverse repos04:12
_andrewdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse ?04:13
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Hobbsee_LOAD -e evilop04:15
neoncodeThat should work... have you updated the list?04:15
patrixhm04:15
patrixthose are the backpots04:15
patrixI'd use breezy itself, not the backports.. (read the comments in front of each line!! :P  )04:15
Hobbsee_LOAD -e evilop.sh04:15
Hobbseehmm04:15
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_andrewthanks guys - I have mplayer up and running.  Pleasure doing business with you :-)04:23
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jonathonhello04:31
jonathonIm having trouble with ndiswrapper ever since i installed drapper04:31
jonathonis this a common complaint/04:31
Red_Herringreally?04:31
Red_Herringyes04:31
Red_Herringbut its MUCH better than ndiswrapper was a year ago04:31
jonathoni dont think its ndiswrapper i think its the way kubuntu identified my card in the installation04:32
jonathonusually its wlan0 now its eth004:32
Red_Herringno04:32
Red_Herringthat means nothing04:32
jonathonheck kubuntu doesnt usually even find my card...04:32
jonathonok04:32
jonathonmust be something else04:32
jonathoni had ndiswrapper running flawlessly in 5.04 and 5.10...04:33
Red_HerringWHOAH!04:33
Hobbseejonathon: yes it doesnt work properly04:33
Red_Herringim getting a kernel panic!04:33
Red_Herringaaaaaaaahhhh04:33
neoncodeHow do I simulate burns with cdrecord04:33
Hobbseecompile the lastest version from the ndiswrapper site04:33
Red_Herringits teh same for everyhing im trying!04:34
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Hobbseejonathon: and yes, you have to do it for most kernel updates, i'm afraid.  YMMV, but that's what i've found04:34
Red_Herringanyone know why an unlocked 2600+ would create a kernel panic?04:34
jonathonbugger me04:35
neoncodeWhat exacly *is* a kernel panic anyway?04:36
Red_Herringummm04:37
Red_Herringwhen i boot, the kernel freaks out04:37
Red_Herringand just shuts down04:37
Red_HerringBSOD for all the windows people out there04:37
Hobbseejonathon: it's not *that* hard, it seems - it doesnt take that logn04:38
jonathonhobbsee the problem is im new to linux i have no idea what i gotta do now so i need to find some 'reading' material04:38
Red_Herring!kernel panic04:38
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring04:38
Hobbsee!ndiswrapper04:39
ubotundiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper04:39
Hobbseejonathon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-2c7bea8535ee4a5b38d5be23825128a0ca1a932e04:39
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joeshmoman04:56
joeshmothis sucks04:56
joeshmoi can never get this to work...04:56
joeshmoim a nooblet04:56
joeshmolol04:56
Dasnipa`"this" is pretty darn specific04:57
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nukywhere is the login shell when you start kubuntu?05:03
nukyas in, i've entered a command in my .bash_profile that needs me to enter a password. i thought this ran at the login shell.. but it never prompts me for the password.. also i entered an echo statement in it to see when it would be echoed but it never was!05:05
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Teknoenieevening all05:05
nukyTeknoenie: hi, can you help me?05:06
Hobbseenuky: it's usually done in kdm isnt it?05:06
Hobbseeand are you talking about it needing root privelages, or what?05:06
Hobbsee!root05:06
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:06
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Teknoenienuky: what's wrong?05:07
frank23nuky: alt-ctrl-f1 will get you a login shell. shells that you open after that are not login shells right? I forget how this works....05:07
nukyHobbsee: i doubt i need root provileges as i can run the same command from the terminal without needing sudo.. i tried to login from the prompt and then it asks for the password but not when login through the gui box at boot up..05:08
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Hobbseedoes the user that you were trying to put in at the login shell actually have a password?05:09
Hobbseeand have you modified the kdmrc file at all?05:09
nukyHobbsee: what i'm trying to do is set up Keychain for ssh-agent. it has to run at every login in and prompt for the rsa passphrase.. but i can't get the passphrase prompt, so it terminates after a timeout instead..05:11
Hobbseeewww ok.05:11
Hobbseei'm imagining that you'd stick a link into one of the autostart folders, to the script thingo, and force it to open in a terminal05:12
nukyHobbsee: hmm i didn't think to make it open a seperate terminal from the login shell.. i know the code gets excuted as some variables are set, i just can't see it with the normal gui login.. i'll try that now and see.. thanks!05:14
Hobbseei'm not sure...but it'd be worth googling05:14
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koolatronhmm..  once upon a time (before a dist-upgrade), K would put an icon for my USB drive on the desktop and mount it automatically when I plugged it in.05:17
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koolatronIt don't do that no more.05:18
koolatronHow do I fix that?05:18
Linux_newbieHey guys, just your regular Linux newbie requiring some help05:18
Teknoeniewrong channel :)05:18
Teknoeniejk05:18
Linux_newbieI set up the university source in Adept, and got the support for mp3s05:19
regeyathat?05:19
regeyawhat's the university source?05:19
Linux_newbieIn adept05:19
Linux_newbieSomeone told me to turn on university05:19
Dasnipa`universe source not university05:19
Linux_newbieto get certain files05:19
Linux_newbiethats what I meant05:20
koolatronhehe, yeah.  it's universe.05:20
Linux_newbiesorry05:20
regeyaoh lol05:20
Linux_newbieanywhoos05:20
Linux_newbiemy bad05:20
Linux_newbiebut still05:20
Teknoeniei thought there was a new repo.. hehe05:20
Linux_newbieI downloaded the required files and installed them05:20
regeyasame here :-)05:20
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regeyaAWESOME05:21
Linux_newbiebut in Kaffeine it says my default audio device is inuse so I can't play music05:21
Linux_newbieI was wondering how to fix this05:21
regeyanow that's up05:21
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regeyad0h05:21
Linux_newbieAmarok says its playing, but the timer doesn't move and there is no sound coming out of the speakers05:21
Teknoeniesudo killall -9 artsd05:22
Teknoenietry again05:22
koolatronso no idea why my K is no longer detecting that my usb drive has been inserted?05:23
koolatronI get a kernel message in the log on dmesg05:23
koolatronand can mount it manually05:24
koolatronif i had to guess, i'd say that it's not detecting my ipod either05:24
Teknoeniecheck your /etc/fstab05:24
koolatronbut i've not tried05:24
koolatrontek, that stuff isn't managed via fstab afaik05:24
Teknoeniedoes it appear in the media window?05:24
koolatronit doesn't appear at _all_05:24
Linux_newbiestill no luck with amaroK05:24
koolatronno icon, etc05:25
Linux_newbielet me try Kaffeine05:25
Teknoeniesystem:/media does it appear there?05:25
koolatronLinux_newbie: make sure that you're using the gstreamer engine under 'engines' in your amaroK config05:25
koolatronTeknoenie: no05:25
Teknoeniewhat does dmesg show ya05:25
Linux_newbieI am on gstreamer05:26
TeknoenieLinux_newbie: try artsd05:26
Teknoenieor xine05:26
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Linux_newbieok, just a second05:26
Teknoeniefor the engine in amarok05:26
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koolatronTeknoenie: dmesg shows that it's been inserted.  i get all the proper kernel messages and stuff.05:27
koolatronTeknoenie: K just refuses to notice it's there05:27
Teknoenieprobably something with hal05:27
Linux_newbieThank you all, I tried artsd and I have it going05:28
koolatronpossibly05:28
Linux_newbieI love the linux community05:29
Linux_newbieyou are all so helpful05:29
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koolatronhow do i figure out whether it's a HAL problem or not?05:32
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m5mHas anyone successfully enabled Amarok 1.4 under Breezy? I see here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-amarok-beta2.php that it requires a new version of taglib.  I'm not sure if I should try or not...05:58
Snake|ONAIRm5m: Im running it05:58
Snake|ONAIRm5m: as long as you have the taglib from the repos uninstalled, it all runs fine05:58
robotgeekSnake|ONAIR: don't forget to tell him the pain you had to go thru?05:59
Red_Herringanyone here heard of DI?05:59
Snake|ONAIRrobotgeek: My problem was that I didnt have the old taglibs uninstalled05:59
m5mSnake|ONAIR: great; haha robotgeek...  did you make a deb or you used the dapper one??05:59
Snake|ONAIRrobotgeek: that was the key05:59
robotgeekSnake|ONAIR: ah, okay. cool.05:59
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nexusanyone use fvwm9506:00
Red_Herringlol, not anymore06:00
Red_Herringfluxbox rules now06:00
douglasIs there any bugs reported of ndiswrapper not working in dapper, I had it workikng just fine in breezy, I did a clean install of flight5 on my laptop and now I can't get my wifi to work even though I've done it a gazillion times. :(06:01
nexusi did apt-get install fvwm95 . it installed it. when i click on it from the login menus it tries to start the x server and then says it doesn't exist06:01
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m5mso Snake|ONAIR unistnalling taglib doesn't make anything else lose functionality?  is there a newer version of taglib bundled in the 1.4 tarball?06:01
Red_Herringdouglas: really? thats the total opposite with me06:01
Red_Herringgive it time06:01
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douglasRed_Herring: My device is showing up as eth1 instead of wlan0 now and I can't get it to use the interface, iwconfig sees it but nothing else does :(06:02
Snake|ONAIRm5m: I installed from source, so I complied taglibs1.4 and all that myself06:02
Red_Herringdouglas: try "sudo dhclient eth1"06:02
m5mSnake|ONAIR: did you make a deb?06:02
Snake|ONAIRNot an offical one, but checkinstall built me one06:03
douglasRed_Herring: That would just try to establish a connection with eth1 which ifconfig doesn't see ?06:03
naliothm5m: you should use checkinstall for your own usage06:03
douglasI'll try though06:03
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Red_Herringdouglas: if iwconfig sees it but ifconfig doesnt, try "ifup eth1" or "dhclient eth1"06:03
m5mnalioth: will man checkinstall show me what that means??06:03
Red_Herringboth should do the same thing06:03
douglasRed_Herring: ok06:04
Snake|ONAIR!checkinstall06:04
ubotuhmm... checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall06:04
m5mok thanks Snake|ONAIR06:04
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naliothm5m: after you install it, run "checkinstall --help"06:04
m5mgot it nalioth, thanks for the info06:04
douglasRed_Herring: Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.06:05
Red_Herringdouglas: what i thought, what happens when you try dhclient?06:05
douglasIt tries to connect but it says Network is Down06:05
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robotgeekdouglas: try "sudo ifconfig eth0 down"06:05
drumstyxhi06:06
Red_Herring*eth106:06
robotgeeksudo ifconfig eth1 down && sudo dhclient eth106:06
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douglassame thing06:06
drumstyxi just installed kubuntu...and cant figure out how to get my dual screen setup working06:06
robotgeekdrumstyx: xinerama maybe, i am not sure. please search on the wiki06:07
douglasRed_Herring: Before when my device started getting used the lights would come on, but they're not right now.06:08
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Red_Herringdouglas: did you start ubuntu with the card in?06:08
douglasno06:08
Red_Herringtry that06:09
Red_Herringit beats lsmod and modprobe06:09
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Snake|ONAIR.....06:11
Snake|ONAIRo.006:11
douglasRed_Herring: What do you mean it beats lsmod and modprobe?06:11
drumstyxhow do i get to xinerama?06:11
m5mok Snake|ONAIR I think I understand Checkinstall, do you use /recommend auto-apt as well?06:11
Red_Herringdouglas: i suspect it would work if you loaded the correct modules, a process that takes way too long, and restarting is just easier06:11
drumstyxim new to linux from windows...so i thought it was in the system settings06:11
Snake|ONAIRm5m: it never worked for me06:11
drumstyxbut it wasnt06:11
m5mah ok06:12
Red_Herring!xinerama06:12
uboturumour has it, xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome06:12
naliothm5m: auto-apt is somtimes more trouble than it's worth06:12
Snake|ONAIRnalioth: will they ever fix it? lol06:12
naliothm5m: join #kubuntu-offtopic and we'll explain how it works (and vexes)06:12
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m5mok nalioth Snake|ONAIR thank you;06:13
douglasRed_Herring: I've done this many times in the past, I wonder why I can't get it now.06:13
Red_Herringdouglas: dapper still has some bugs06:13
Red_Herringi would wait a bit06:13
douglastrue.06:13
Red_Herringi mean, i had the same problem with my wireless card when breezy came out06:13
douglasI'm not going back to breezy though, dapper is too sweet06:13
Red_Herringwell, when it was in beta06:13
douglasreally?06:13
Red_Herringi opened a bug on it06:13
Red_Herringadn the next update fixed it06:13
douglashmm... perhaps I'll try that.06:14
douglasI just wonder why I can see the device but not use it?06:14
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douglasI can even set the interface settings like the essid and what not, however I can't do a iwlist eth1 scanning :(06:16
CheeseBurgerManAh, dapper wifi, eh?06:16
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CheeseBurgerManI couldn't get mine to turn on. :P06:16
Red_Herringheh06:17
Red_Herringits funny06:17
Red_Herringive had 3 wirelss cards06:17
Red_Herringthe first never worked under linux06:17
Red_Herringthe second only worked a bit06:17
Red_Herringthe 3rd worked well06:17
Red_Herringnow, dapper has all 3 working 100%06:17
naliothaint progress grand?06:18
douglasyay06:18
Red_Herringsure is06:18
douglasand no I didn't get it.06:18
CheeseBurgerManI went to Control Center > Internet & Network > Network Settings, and tried to turn on dhcp, but it crashed :P06:18
Red_Herringand its really only ubuntu thats been geting better06:18
Red_Herringi havent seen ANY of this development in other distros06:19
douglasunfortunately06:19
CheeseBurgerManYeah, breezy didn't detect the card - Dapper did :)06:19
Red_Herringyea06:19
frank23Red_Herring: is this out of the box?06:19
Red_Herringyea06:19
frank23Red_Herring: very nice06:19
Red_Herringmy nice one finally worked w/ ndiswrapper under breezy, but not hoary, i left it in when i booted up dapper, then was confused when i was online06:20
frank23Red_Herring: lol06:20
CheeseBurgerManlol06:20
douglasWell I'm going to check out some settings and then try rebooting, be back later.06:20
Red_Herringbut then my dad blocked every one of my wireless cards MAC addresses06:20
Red_Herringso im connected throgh LAN06:20
CheeseBurgerManlol06:20
Red_HerringEAT THAT DAD!06:21
frank23Red_Herring: oh yeah... did you find a way?06:21
Red_Herringi gotta wait for a good time to do this, i cant rush06:21
CheeseBurgerManRed_Herring: Heh, my dad did that, but he made a typo in the MAC address :P06:21
CheeseBurgerManSo he TRIED to do it. ;)06:21
Red_HerringCheeseBurgerMan: thats what i plan on doing ;-)06:21
Dasnipa`why did he block the MACS06:21
Red_HerringDasnipa`: so everyone else in the family but me could get interent06:21
CheeseBurgerManYup06:22
Dasnipa`my dad wouldnt know the first thing to do to block me hehe06:22
CheeseBurgerManlol06:22
Red_Herringi contemplated installing the keylogger at school, then decided i didnt want to be that evil06:22
Smeggywhats the package to grab to get kaffeine to play the majority of things?06:22
Smeggyit was calle xine-extracodecs or something similar I seem to recall?06:22
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Red_Herringmy dad is working on the new WiMAX thing, so he thinks he is all l33t with networking06:23
frank23Smeggy: that's dapper I think06:23
CheeseBurgerManMy dad is a software developer. :P06:23
Dasnipa`i wish my dad was that cool06:23
Smeggyah damn06:23
Smeggywhat is it in breezy then?06:23
frank23since when is being a programmer 'cool'? :)06:23
CheeseBurgerManlol06:23
Dasnipa`i love programming06:24
Red_Herringthing is, my dad has been faking blocking my internet, because he knows i live on here06:24
frank23Smeggy: install kaffeine-xine and w32codecs06:24
Red_Herringbut my mom found out06:24
jjs0ahfrank23: exactly what i was thinking. no one thinks i'm cool :(06:24
Smeggycheers frank23 :)06:24
Red_HerringHEY, NERDS ARE COOL!06:24
Red_Herringbesides06:24
Red_Herringone day we will rule the world!06:24
CheeseBurgerManlol06:24
CheeseBurgerManWe shall ddos all those who oppose us!06:24
Red_Herringafter i finish this can of mountain dew...06:24
CheeseBurgerManlol06:25
Red_Herringand ow3n this noob06:25
Dasnipa`and then we will ban all the masculine guys so we get all the hot chicks06:25
Red_Herringw00t!06:25
Red_Herringand then we can go to the top of all the mountains (on google earth) and shout "W00t!"06:25
Dasnipa`since when is there a linux build of google earth?06:26
CheeseBurgerManhahahahahah :D06:26
Red_Herringi think google is working on it06:26
frank23I don't know.... take a look at how www.google.com/linux is :(06:26
CheeseBurgerManBut we musn't take over the world before they release it06:26
Dasnipa`i keep hearing rumors, but given googles turnaround time i would have thought we woulda seen it by now06:26
CheeseBurgerManHowever, we won't wait for it to get out of beta :P06:27
Dasnipa`maybe on april 1 when google always announces stuff06:27
Red_Herringits a google rumor, but i think this one was actually confirmed by cedega06:27
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frank23oh it's linux search...  I never got that!06:27
CheeseBurgerManlol,it is :)06:27
Red_Herringah yes... night06:27
Red_Herringthe nerds are awakening06:27
CheeseBurgerManAlthough I've never actually used it much - I use the regular search06:28
Red_Herringwatch, as "lol"s and "OMFG"s and "WTF"s fill the air06:28
Red_Herringor rather "Own3d" and "l33t" and "n00bs"06:28
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CheeseBurgerManI'd ever say "Own3d" - every good nerd knows it's "pwnd!"06:28
douglasStill no workie06:28
Red_Herringinteresting06:29
Red_Herringbug report?06:29
douglasDo you think it would change anything if I compiled ndiswrapper myself?06:29
Red_Herringno06:29
Red_Herringdont do that06:29
Red_Herringlike i said, the next update might fix it06:29
douglaswhy not?06:29
douglastrue but it's nice to have wifi06:29
Red_Herringsure, but if you compile it yourself, there cannot be any more updates, and there is no geruntee that compiling it will make it work06:30
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douglasI can always do a make uninstall to remove it and use the package again can't I?06:30
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Linux_newbieis there .m4a support for Linux?06:31
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Dasnipa`lol06:31
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Linux_newbie(Itunes default audio)06:31
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CheeseBurgerManHmm06:31
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CheeseBurgerManOK, this is annoying06:32
frank23Linux_newbie: I'm sure there is through w32codecs maybe06:32
Red_Herringwhoah06:32
CheeseBurgerMan!kops06:32
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fooishbar, haggai, amu, uniq, Mez, seth_k, nikkia, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek06:32
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douglasI found a bug report on my wificard not working with ndis in dapper :)06:32
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CheeseBurgerManhmm06:32
CheeseBurgerManAh, thank you06:32
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robotgeekwtf06:33
CheeseBurgerManWhoa06:33
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Red_Herringstop it pagefault_06:33
Red_Herringjust no06:33
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Red_Herringstop!06:33
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Dasnipa`whoa06:33
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Red_Herringrobotgeek: can you ban him?06:33
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CheeseBurgerManAhhhhh, thank you06:34
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robotgeekfreaking ban type setting06:34
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Linux_newbieSo yeah, don't try to run Trillian Pro in WINE06:36
Linux_newbieit doesn't work06:36
CheeseBurgerManlol06:36
Linux_newbienot without a lot of work06:36
Linux_newbieNeither does bearshare06:37
robotgeekLinux_newbie: apollon works well06:37
Red_Herringaaaaaaaahhhh, newbies! wait, im in the kubuntu helproom06:37
douglasRed_Herring: So let's say that I just read a thread that says my nick is now supported natively in dapper, would ndiswrapper screw that up?06:37
CheeseBurgerManLinux_newbie: Try using the native Linux apps - some are as good or better06:38
Red_Herringdouglas: yes06:38
Red_Herringyes yes yes06:38
Red_Herringthats what happened with my card06:39
douglasI have a broadcom bcm4306...06:39
Red_Herringndiswrapper should really only be used if you cant find a native one for it06:39
douglasI just assumed I needed ndis because I always have in the past and installed it really without checking06:39
douglashow do I get rid of ndisalltogether now, just apt-get remove?06:40
frank23from now on you should always buy hardware with linux in mind. prevents alot of problem!06:40
CheeseBurgerManHeh, I was pleasantly surprised with Dapper when I didn't have to turn off hardware acceleration06:40
douglasagreed06:40
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Red_Herringdouglas: whas the chipset?06:40
douglasbcm430606:40
Red_Herringfrank23: it SURE does06:40
CheeseBurgerManfrank23: What??? And not overcome the challenges?06:40
CheeseBurgerMan;)06:40
douglashttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=41046006:41
douglasThat would also explain why it's using eth1 as the alias and not wlan0 :)06:41
frank23CheeseBurgerMan: maybe I *should* buy my hardware from microsoft exclusively!06:42
Red_Herringdouglas: i think the wireless driver is there somewhere, but the kernel hasnt put 2 and 2 together06:42
douglasRed_Herring: What do you mean, I should wait for another kernel release and try again?06:43
Red_Herringi looked through modprobe -l06:43
HymnToLifefrank23> well microsoft hardware is actually good imo06:43
Red_Herringdouglas: yes, patience06:43
HymnToLifeI have two microsoft mouses who work very well06:43
Red_Herringwhich is at an alltime low in the world06:43
CheeseBurgerManfrank23: MS makes motherboards?06:43
Red_HerringHymnToLife: you just said the M word06:43
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HymnToLifelol06:43
Red_Herringits m$06:43
frank23HymnToLife: actually I don't know anything about it. just replying to CheeseBurgerMan06:43
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douglasRed_Herring: Wasa06:44
CheeseBurgerManlol, I don't know much about it either06:44
HymnToLifelol reminds me of a SOuth Park episode06:44
HymnToLifebut that's offtopic I guess06:44
Red_Herringok, /join #kubuntu-offtopic06:44
frank23HymnToLife: nothing here has been ontopic for a while06:45
HymnToLifelol06:45
Red_Herringtrue06:45
Red_Herringbut at least it pertains to computers06:45
Red_Herringeither that or nerdy subjects06:45
HymnToLifeno Seveas to kick on the slightest offtopic message here I guess lol06:45
Red_Herringyeah, unlike #gentoo06:45
robotgeek<ahem>06:45
CheeseBurgerManlol06:45
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Red_Herringin #gentoo, if you paste more than 3 lines, the bot kicks you06:46
Arcanimusnight all06:46
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Red_Herringrobotgeek: all you hafta do is COUGH and this room goes dead silent06:46
robotgeekRed_Herring: yes, i tend to have that effect06:47
m5mAny ideas why amarok is installed 1.3.7 but doesn't show as installed in adept?06:47
CheeseBurgerManNo wonder he's so silent - imagine what would happen if he TALKED. :o06:47
Red_Herringrobotgeek: you **are** a geek06:47
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Red_Herringeh, human interaction has its pitfalls06:48
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Red_Herringim a fish! i have 9 lives!06:48
Red_Herringoh...06:48
CheeseBurgerManThat's cats - fish have .5 lives06:48
Red_Herringwait, i have .506:48
Red_Herringdang06:49
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Cat_Herring:-P06:49
CheeseBurgerManSo now you have 4.5 lives06:49
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m5mAnyone think it's weird that Amarok doesn't show up as installed in Adept?  it came with the install of kubuntu... is something wrong on my system?06:49
Cat_Herringyea06:49
Cat_Herringm5m: yea, thats messed up06:50
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Dasnipa`oh oh hotdog06:51
m5mwill I cause myself problems if I install 1.4 on top of my phantom 1.3.7 do you think Red_Herring?06:51
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m5malso has anyone seen a good wiki or tutorial that goes through the ./configure, make, checkinstall process... especially which flags to set on ./configure ?06:52
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robotgeek!compile06:52
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)06:52
m5mwonderful robotgeek thanks06:52
m5mI'd been searching the wiki... omitted the obvious search term though06:53
douglasRed_Herring: Aparently all I need to do is add new firmware to /lib/firmware however I got an object file with the firmware and I'm not sure how to use it, any ideas?06:53
robotgeekdouglas: you need to download fwcutter and extract it06:54
HymnToLifedouglas> isn't there some kind of readme with it ?06:54
douglashttp://bcm43xx.spugna.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=d2a529392ffb4e5f3ebc707fab5ecca0&topic=21;prev_next=next06:54
douglasno06:54
douglaswhat's fwcutter?06:54
douglasI'll check into it.06:54
robotgeekdouglas: moment06:54
douglask06:54
robotgeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx << check dapper section06:54
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douglaswilldo06:55
Dasnipa`ernas edible diapers... makes their own gravy06:58
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douglasrobotgeek: How do I know if I have the right object file?06:59
Red_Herringis it just me, or has the average iq of the internet gone down since AOL came along06:59
douglasRed_Herring: It has indeed.07:00
robotgeekdouglas: you mean firware, look in the readme. i am not sure if different devices have different firware07:00
CheeseBurgerManThe average internet user has an IQ?07:00
Red_HerringCheeseBurgerMan: i know, itsw hard to imagine07:00
Red_Herringbut after all the LOL OMFG WTF there is a hint of intelligence in some of them07:00
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douglasI think I have the right one.07:01
douglasEverything went smoothly, but I may save getting it working until tommorow, I'm tired as a poop smith after a hard day of shoveling07:02
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douglasg'night and thanks a lot for the help07:02
CheeseBurgerManG'night07:02
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m5mDo I need to uninstall Amarok 1.3.7 i'm compiling 1.4 from source Snake__ ?  it's not showing under adept, though it's locatable in .kde/share/apps/amarok/07:18
Snake__m5m: I would suggest you do07:19
m5mSnake__: How would you suggest I do it if sudo apt-get remove returns "Package amarok is not installed, so not removed" ?!07:19
Snake__Oh07:20
Snake__Crap.07:20
Snake__uhh07:20
Snake__I have no idea >.<07:20
m5mIt came with the kubuntu install that way... invisible in adept...07:20
CheeseBurgerMantry installing it - see what happens :P07:20
m5mok CheeseBurgerMan will try :-P07:21
naliothm5m: we should discuss pkg building in #kubuntu-offtopic07:25
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masterwolfi was told that kubuntu would  not remove Windows  so how can i boot windows07:29
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CheeseBurgerManIt will install GRUB into your MBR so that you can chose between Kubuntu and Windows07:29
masterwolfit wont let me choose07:30
CheeseBurgerMan!grub07:31
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting07:31
masterwolfCheeseBurgerMan can you steep me thought it07:34
CheeseBurgerManmasterwolf: No, I've never actually had a problem with GRUB :P07:35
CheeseBurgerManLemme look at the links, I'll see if I can help from those07:36
masterwolfok07:36
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CheeseBurgerManOK - try booting from your Kubuntu CD, and typing "rescue"07:40
CheeseBurgerManhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is the link I'm paraphrasing from, BTW07:41
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masterwolfi did07:50
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Tsukihime!ati08:19
ubotumethinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358908:19
siimowhat themes do you kubuntu guys use to blend gtk apps into your desktops? e.g. gaim any screenshots?08:20
robotgeeksiimo: kopete > gaim08:20
robotgeekheh08:20
siimook but back to my question..08:21
robotgeeksiimo: no, i don;t use any gtk apps. sorry08:21
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k_uusubatudoes anyone use Ktorrent?08:30
k_uusubatuis it normal for ktorrent to use 20% of the user resource?08:30
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Chodder|AwayYou needed to kick me for that?08:50
robotgeekChodder|Away: sorry. tired08:51
Chodder|AwayYa well so am I08:51
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robotgeekChodder|Away: i apologize08:51
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Chodder|AwayUse your powers a bit more responsibly :)08:52
robotgeek:)08:57
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KaoticEvilhow can i test if X is using hardware 3D or software?09:33
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robotgeekKaoticEvil: it is on wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting09:38
KaoticEvillaptop?09:38
KaoticEvilim on a desktop system... will that matter?09:38
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KaoticEvilah, ok.. i see it now, thanks robotgeek :)09:41
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rysiek|plhi there09:42
robotgeekKaoticEvil: remebered the link, but not the command09:42
rysiek|planybody could help me out with recompiling a kernel module?09:42
KaoticEvilhmmm... it returns No. not good.09:42
KaoticEvilnow to figure out why it doesnt09:42
robotgeekrysiek|pl: i am going to bed, look on the wiki09:42
rysiek|plm'kay09:42
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rysiek|pldarn, there's nothing *in* the wiki about compiling kernel modules o_O09:44
KaoticEvildamn. my radeon isnt supported by fglrx :|09:47
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rysiek|plwhat is you radeon?09:47
KaoticEvilradeon 7000/ve09:47
KaoticEvilits supposed to have 3D already... but i think im missing a kernel module or something09:48
rysiek|plthere is an OpenSource project aiming in writing the drivers for those, IMHO09:48
rysiek|plgimme a sec :)09:48
rysiek|plKaoticEvil: the official ATI driver only supports Radeons 8500 and higher, but...09:49
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KaoticEvilrysiek|pl: yeah, i know it only supports the 8500+ :P09:51
KaoticEvilim searching right now...09:51
KaoticEvilmainly the wiki09:51
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rysiek|plKaoticEvil: there is an OS project, as I said, I just have to find the link :] 09:52
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nico8481hi09:53
rysiek|plhi09:55
rysiek|plKaoticEvil: got the bastard! read this: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon#head-2d55b5fb2a9b322fb10e4caddfb3104766cc415909:57
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rysiek|plKaoticEvil: scroll down and you'll get: "7800/rv200 and below are supported by the radeon DRI driver"09:58
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rysiek|pljust set up you X server to use the "radeon" driver :)09:58
rysiek|pl...sooo, anyone can help me in compiling a kernel module? :)09:59
KaoticEvili would, but thats a lil advanced for me...10:00
rysiek|pldarn, gonna go googlin' in that case :)10:00
KaoticEvilone problem....10:01
KaoticEvilwhen i sudo dpkr-reconfigure xserver-xorg... theres no Radeon driver... only ati10:02
rysiek|pltry ati then :)10:02
KaoticEvilthats the one im using...10:02
rysiek|pland no 3d support?10:02
KaoticEvilnope10:02
rysiek|plshit... I have no idea in such case :/10:03
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KaoticEvildammit.10:05
KaoticEvilbrb10:05
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Tonio_helloi10:25
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locomortoTonio!10:27
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nestormhi everyone10:31
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halukhello.. I have installed Kubuntu but the install system didn't ask me to enter root password so, I can not log in as root user now. What can I do? thanks.10:32
jjs0ahhaluk: root user is disabled. use sudo10:35
Blippehow do i disable root after a debootstrap?10:36
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panaishi :)10:37
Blippehi10:38
halukjjs0ah: thanks. but I tried "sudo ls" and it asks me root password. but I couldn't be able to set the root password.10:39
jjs0ahhaluk: it is asking your for your users password. that is how sudo works10:39
panaiswhy doesn't konqueror show my hdd after updating kde to 3.5??10:39
halukthanks a lot jjs0ah10:40
jjs0ahhaluk: btw, if you want a regular root user like any other linux distro, you can sudo su -.. and then passwd10:41
panaiswill this make me root user?10:41
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ganymedhallo10:46
panaishi10:46
KaoticEvilwow.. i think i may bitten off more than i can chew with this one...10:46
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vijayhi, i just connect my digital camera, can any one tell me how to access it??10:49
vijayconnected10:49
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nestormgo to devices:/10:49
ganymedcould it be that kernel 2.6 distros are generally better suited for higher performance machines?10:49
vijayok10:49
nico8481any idea when is the next release of the distro scheduled for ?10:49
nestormmaybe the icon is a usbkey one10:49
ganymedapril i think10:50
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haluki want to install opera web browser and i've installed libstdc++ 6.0 but it gave me this error "/usr/lib/opera/8.52-20060201.6/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libs                                                                            tdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"10:50
rysiek|plguys, I'm getting a "Makefile:91: *** environment incomplete: MK_QTDIR=. Stop" error upon compiling an app - what's wrong?10:51
rysiek|plwiki has nothing to say about it10:51
ganymedhaluk: did you use the official deb?10:51
haluki use kubuntu sarge10:51
ganymedok, nobody answers... mmmhhh. are there any benchmarks on the performance of qt?10:52
nestormhaluk: kubuntu sarge? how is it possible?10:52
ganymedhaluk: sorry, but what is kubuntu sarge10:52
ganymed?10:52
jjs0ahhaluk: thats your problem. you didn't use an official deb. sarge is the name of the debian stable distribution. ;)10:52
ganymedahhh, sorry, i am a little slow10:53
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ganymedwhat version of opera is this?10:53
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rysiek|plguys, what do I need to do to get rid of this error: Makefile:91: *** environment incomplete: MK_QTDIR=. Stop10:55
halukopera 8.5210:57
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rysiek|plehh, whatever, cu all10:58
ganymedcu10:59
KaoticEvilthe kernel sources arent on the breezy CD?!10:59
ganymedi can only figure out that i have opera 8.5. this one works with the official debs from opera.com... just do a dpkg -i ...11:00
ganymedwell, there is an ubuntu package on opera.com... have you tried this one?11:02
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savagenatorhello everyone, i'm a new user of kubuntu and i have  a few questions...11:03
savagenatoracually just one: how do i get the screen resolution higher when i didnt set a higher resultion in the setup11:04
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ganymedany ideas why amarok sounds like a stutterer (nothing against stutterers!)? my sound has a delay of at least 2 sec. and amarok often just stumbles...11:05
halukthanks ganymed i am trying ur suggestion11:06
savagenatoranyone?11:06
ganymedsavagenator: try system settings, display11:06
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jjs0ahganymed: could be the engine you are using (maybe gstreamer).. could be arts, in which case messing with the sound server settings might resolve it11:07
ganymedjjs0ah: arts runs in real time priority. any other things i can set up there? what "backend"/engine do you recommend?11:08
nestormganymed: does it sounds bad all the time or just now?11:09
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nico8481do many of you use konqueror as a web browser?11:09
KaoticEvilsavagenator: you'll need to reconfigure your X server11:09
KaoticEvilnico8481: i use konqi and firefox11:10
jjs0ahganymed: i believe there is a xine engine for amarok, but i'm not a big amarok user. playing everything through kaffeine11:10
nestormnico8481: I do. Konqueror 70%, Firefox 30%11:10
savagenatorKaoticEvil: how do i do that, i'm a linux noob11:11
ganymednestorm: well, there is always a delay. concerning amarok, it just happens from time to time, like an old record "jumping"... very nerve-racking though11:11
KaoticEvilsavagenator: from a console... "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:11
nestormyeah, I know what you mean11:11
ganymedi use xine for kaffeine... i'll give it a try11:11
sniffnico8481: I always used to use firefox, but then I started with konqueror, and now I see no need to install firefox11:11
nestormI think the prob comes from the engine not from arts, like jjs0ah says11:11
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savagenatori have no idea what that means11:12
nico8481dunno, i don't like the idea myself of using a web browser that is also the file manager :-/11:13
KaoticEvil!xorg11:13
ubotu[xorg]  To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html11:13
nico8481i feel it "insecure" somehow (don't ask me what i mean , i don't know exactly :P )11:13
savagenatorthanks11:13
KaoticEviltry one of those links, savagenator... should be some useful info there :)11:13
sniffnico8481: before I felt the same way after having used windows, but now I see how linux and windows are completely different11:13
KaoticEvilnico8481: kinda like another OS, eh?11:14
ganymedbut there is sth. related... let's say i open a cdrom with konqueror and at the same time play some music (with amarok), then i get heavy performance problems, meaning that the music stops and possibly doesn't recover anymore - so it keeps stumbling11:14
ganymedany ideas?11:14
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nico8481KaoticEvil: yup, another os that i don't use :p11:14
nestormganymed: what is your machine? maybe you're heavy loading it11:15
nestormAmarok is not xmms11:15
KaoticEvilganymed: that specific problem could be caused by the fact that your CDROm drive may be using PIO transfer mode instead of DMA11:15
ganymednico8481: but the "other" os has no comfort...11:15
ganymedno, it uses dma, checked with hdparm11:15
jjs0ahganymed: it could also be hdparm settings.. like dma being disabled and the stumbling occuring during reads / writes to the drive11:15
ganymedit's a samsung notebook, 1.8 GHz, 1024 MB RAM bla bla, should be sufficient11:16
ganymedby the way, i do not have the problem with my desktop pc (debian etch)11:16
sniffganymed: the problem is probably that your laptop is too new :)11:16
ganymedsniff: hh?11:17
nestormganymed: you ever have sound problems with linux in that laptop?11:17
sniffganymed: Just saying, cos after buying my laptop I had to wait nearly a year before linux would begin working ok11:17
jjs0ahganymed: try another engine. another player entirely. if it works, chock it up to buggy software and try it again later :\11:17
ganymedmmhhhh. i like amarok :(11:18
KaoticEvilodd.. mine is using PIO O_o11:18
sniffganymed: try the OSS mixer out of interest? Or disable ACPI in the kernel line?11:18
ganymedthe asian guy on the cover is very cool...11:18
ganymedsniff: well, disabling acpi might be an idea, but no, thanks. i am glad i didn't have to wait one year for my nb to work... and giving up acpi will kill my machine entirely11:19
sniffganymed: only mention it not as a permament fix or solution but it might give you a clue as to where the problem lies11:20
ganymedand i haven't had to recompile my dsdt like on my first laptop11:21
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ganymedsniff: i know, thanks. but i am a bit superstitious when it comes to acpi... bad expereciences11:22
sniffoh dear11:23
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ganymedi'll try another engine and player first... and then let's see... or i just wait a while... let's say a year or two...11:23
ganymedi wish there was only 5% of the money it the open source dev that M$ has to their disposal11:24
ganymedin11:24
jjs0ahganymed: i wouldn't be surprised if there was some real polish on the linux desktop by that time. :) should try again sooner than that11:26
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ganymedwell, my hopes for the future: a fast kde 4 and rocking away windows vista :)11:27
sniffganymed: i heard that the real guru of sound is Crimsun on this channel11:27
ganymeddo you in which part of the world he lives... as to getting up...11:28
ganymedknow11:28
sniffno, i have no idea. It looks like he should be around now.11:28
sniffhe/she11:28
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ganymedwell, have to go right now... i'll come back later. thanks for all11:29
ganymedcu11:29
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KaoticEvilwth...11:35
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KaoticEvilim compiling a new kernel.. should i use the vanilla sources or the ubuntu sources?11:36
jjs0ahKaoticEvil: as long as you use the configuration you find in /boot, i don't think it should matter11:37
KaoticEvilhmm11:37
KaoticEvilwell, make oldconfig fails11:37
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KaoticEvilill try it after installing gcc-3.4.. right now ive only got 4.x installed11:38
KaoticEvilthere we go... now its working :D11:38
KaoticEvilwhoa... thats a buncha stuff O.O11:39
jjs0ahKaoticEvil: takes forever building the Ubuntu configured kernel.. if you know what you are doing, configuring each option one at a time will save you a LOT of compile time11:40
KaoticEvilyeah?11:40
jjs0ahKaoticEvil: then again, you save as much time as you spent configuring. there are just a lot of modules being built for hardware you probably don't even have11:41
KaoticEvili may just go with the vanilla sources then...11:41
KaoticEvilwell, after i make oldconfig... cant i just go thru and reconfigure it with make xconfig ?11:42
jjs0ahKaoticEvil: yes11:42
KaoticEvilok, cool then :)11:42
KaoticEvilnow i gotta install Qt o_o11:42
jjs0ahi'm partial to make menuconfig11:43
KaoticEvilthats the term-based config tool, right?11:43
jjs0ahKaoticEvil: yeah. when it comes time to 'make', use make-kpkg instead. make the kernel the debian way. there are howtos on google11:44
KaoticEvilyou mean when im actually making the kernel itself?11:44
jjs0ahyeah11:45
KaoticEvilok11:45
KaoticEvilwhats the difference between the 2?11:45
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jjs0ahKaoticEvil: google for "compile kernel" "debian way" or something like that. make-kpkg will make a deb out of the finished compile, so you can install the kernel with dpkg11:51
jjs0ahKaoticEvil: and remove it just as easily11:52
KaoticEviljjs0ah: well, im going by the wiki ByHand howto11:53
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jjs0ahKaoticEvil: nothing wrong with doing it that way. its just more convenient in the long run when you use the package management system11:57
jjs0ahKaoticEvil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24853.html11:57
KaoticEvildammit. i cant even find the freakin packages to install to get xconfig or gconfig working :|12:00
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_skamanhi guys12:16
_skamancan anybody help me?12:17
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patheticwhats your problem?12:17
_skamani'm trying to install katapult from sources12:18
_skamanthe one in kubuntu repositories12:18
_skamanil 2.0 and doesn't work correctly12:18
patheticmhm12:18
_skamani got this error12:18
_skamanchecking for gcc... no12:18
_skamanchecking for cc... no12:18
_skamanchecking for cc... no12:18
_skamanchecking for cl... no12:18
_skamanconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH12:18
_skamanbut I have installed GCC12:18
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_skamani can't figure what's the matter12:19
luite_skaman: try installing build-essential12:19
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Flosofthey12:20
_skamanalready installed12:20
Flosoftis there a programm with which I can print a list of file names in a directory?12:20
betuliohey12:20
_skamanluite is already installed12:20
_skaman:(12:20
luite_skaman: hm, should work then... maybe your path variable is b0rked?12:21
Flosoftmaybe with size behind it?12:21
_skamanluite maybe...12:21
_skamanhow can I fix it?12:21
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luite_skaman: if you type gcc in your shell, what does it say?12:22
_skamanbash: gcc: command not found12:23
_skaman:S12:23
luitethat's strange, it should work when build-essential is installed. have you changed anything to your patch variable? or did anything strange in this shell before executing this?12:24
luitepath12:24
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jackphilis there no kget in kubuntu?12:25
_skamannothing12:25
_skamanwhat sould I do? :'(12:25
luite_skaman: what is $PATH set to then?12:25
JakubSjackphil: impossible, i use kget on kubuntu just fine12:25
jackphilJakubS: maybe amd64 have none?12:27
luite_skaman: type set in the shell, and find the PATH variable12:27
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JakubSjackphil: that would be an explanation12:28
_skamanPATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games12:28
luitelooks ok12:28
jackphilwho can ensure it?12:28
_skamanmaybe I should remove/reinstall build-essential12:29
_skaman?12:29
JakubSjackphil: apt-cache search kget returns nothing?12:29
luite_skaman: it may have something to do with the configuration of the gcc versions, I'm not sure how to fix that12:29
JakubSbtw. it in 'universe' section12:30
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_skamanluite thnx12:30
luite_skaman: I think /usr/bin/gcc should link to the real version of gcc (for example gcc-3.3), but I don't have a kubuntu box atm, so I can't check, sorry.12:31
luite_skaman: you might try update-alternatives --config gcc12:31
jackphilJakubS: yes, nothing!12:33
JakubSyou have universe repos enabled?12:33
jackphilJakubS: yes, everythin is enabled. i think12:34
_skamanok i purged reinstallaed gcc12:35
_skamanand now works fine :D12:35
JakubSjackphil: breezy or dapper?12:36
jackphilOh, it's dapper12:36
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JakubSvery weird, i checked http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 and kget package _is_ there12:37
jackphilJakubS: i'll try this source12:38
JakubSdon't forget apt-get update :-)12:39
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vikkecan someone help me with this really strange problem i have?12:44
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Blippeask away vikki, the only question forbidden in this channel is of the type "can someone help me?" without stating with what!12:45
Blippevikke not vikki12:46
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marcovichi all...i just installed kubuntu breezy and i have that problem....tryng to copy from an USB HD (160 G) a 1.1 GB folder to my HD, this devices go to "stall" and i can't transfer my folder...which is the problem?12:48
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vikkewell i have this problem with konqueror, everytime i open a konqueror window this error msg box show up and display "Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error."12:55
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setog3someone can help me with adept (ok I use debian) , but I am sure many people use adept here , so I ask , I can't run adept : could'not open cache .. how can I fix this ?01:02
tsdgeossetog3: running as root?01:03
mornfallsetog3: hi01:03
mornfallsetog3: unfortunately01:03
mornfallsetog3: i suspect adept is in too bad shape in debian01:03
setog3yes trying without root , and with root privilege01:03
mornfallsetog3: when you can bribe isaac to upload for me :)01:04
setog3mornfall, don't understand  bribe isaac to upload for me ?01:04
mornfallsetog3: i don't have upload rights anywhere01:04
tsdgeossetog3: issac is a debian mantainer and mornfall the adept coder01:04
mornfallsetog3: so i depend on other people to do uploads01:05
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mornfallsetog3: i have a new source package sitting on my harddrive waiting for isaac to have time01:05
mornfallsetog3: when that's in, it should work again01:05
mornfallsetog3: with the new version that is01:06
setog3hmm ok .. so I wait thx01:06
mornfallsetog3: you aren't missing much, 1.88 was a fair bit buggy01:06
esteli'm tryiing to compile a fritz card kernel module for a friend that uses ubuntu; so i've installed ubuntu to have the same compiler, libs and so on...; however, the problem is: fcdslslusb: version magic '2.6.15.5-ubuntu1 preempt 486 gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.15-15-386 preempt 486 gcc-4.0; any ideas how to solve that problem? the module seems to work, if forced to load.01:06
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maentyHow can I make programs start automatically when I start X/KDE?01:25
killianhow can I synchronise the clock regularly with KDE?01:26
JakubSmaenty: link it into .kde/Autostart01:26
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maentyJakubS: thanks01:26
maentyanyone here using kbiff? If yes, do you know how can I start kbiff without the options window coming in the beginning. I'd like it to just start in systray01:35
maentyI tried to look kbiff --help-all but I don't find any command line option for making it start without the options window01:36
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sikor_sxeis it possible to install from livecds01:36
sikor_sxe?01:36
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maentysikor_sxe: good question01:37
keep_it_realhi all01:37
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NoNameplz give me a qnet server ip01:38
sikor_sxebecause installing totally fails from common breezy install cd (dhcp and mouse and whatever)01:38
sikor_sxebut the livecd runs flawless01:38
NoNameQUAKENETIP PLZ01:39
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can i delete my hda6 partition if my root partition is hda7?02:07
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maentywhat is the best firewall program for linux/KDE?02:12
maentyI have tried Firestarter, which not only blocked all traffic but also the "add rule" option was gray so I can't add any rules02:12
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zmo1138hi DjDarkman, use fdisk /dev/hda and delete hda6, do you have it mounted? if so umount it first :)02:13
DjDarkmanit`s unmounted02:14
DjDarkmani tried to delete it with gparted02:14
zmo1138DjDarkman, try it using fdisk as root02:15
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DjDarkmani did it02:17
DjDarkmanbut it didn`t delete it02:18
DjDarkmanCommand (m for help): d02:18
DjDarkmanPartition number (1-10): 602:18
DjDarkmanCommand (m for help):02:18
zmo1138ok and w to write changes to disk02:18
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DjDarkmank zmo1138 10x02:19
DjDarkmanit worked02:20
zmo1138cool02:20
visik7I got a strange behaviour using eclipse+pydev+kde : the right click on the projects panel doesn't work using pydev prospective, while works when gnome is used instead of kde and works also in windows02:20
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maentyalright I got rid of the kbiff since I didn't find any way to start it without the window coming (just in systray)02:33
maentyI installed Korn instead.. however, it seems korn does not have any icons included. I would like to add some mail icons for empty mailbox / full mailbox. How can I add icons and where can I get icons for KDE?02:33
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DrMOhello02:34
Hobbseemaenty: kde-look.org, i think02:34
DrMOI've just bought an agp 8x card (GF5200) nothing special. how can I tell if linus has picked up the cards 3d abilities?02:34
maentyHobbsee: thanks02:35
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DjDarkmani deleted a partition and i get error 15 when grub wants to start ,what should i do?02:39
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Hobbseeum....i dont rmeember what error 15 is, but reinstall grub?02:39
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DjDarkmanhow can i reinstall grub?02:40
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Hobbsee!grub02:41
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting02:41
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stianhi, do anyone know how I can connect to another PC on the network and copy he`s files ? like music, movies and things like that ? I have Kubuntu, and he have Windows Xp02:43
_Tobias_How can I determine the Version auf a Kubuntu CD if I haven't installed yet? If press F1 for Help it says for Kubuntu Flight 5 (both live and install) that I have Version 20051026ubuntu22. That would be pretty old.02:44
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Hobbsee!tell stian about samba02:46
Hobbsee_Tobias_: date would be incorrect then - flight 5 was released a few days ago02:47
_Tobias_Hobbsee: thanks for the info. I guess I'll download a ubuntu version and check if it also says such an old date02:48
Hobbsee_Tobias_: there's only one flight 5 - and it was released a few days ago02:48
_Tobias_Hobbsee: is there no flight 5 for kubuntu? only for ubuntu?02:49
stianHobbsee: Is it not a easyer method ? like just write he`s local ip, then i get the files, og the name of the computer ?02:50
_Tobias_http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/ has recent images from 14. March02:50
Hobbsee_Tobias_: ah, i thought there was a kubuntu flight 5 - maybe it's not out yet.  you can always grab a flight 4 and update if you want02:50
_Tobias_Hobbsee: thanks02:51
Hobbseestian: konq, network folders, samba shares02:51
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ehjI want to make a windows partition on 4 laptops (all now running kubuntu dapper), but the "Disk&Filesystems-System Settings" says the module could not be load because of an "orphaned controle module". Can I do the partition in any other way?03:13
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angasuleI was here 3 days ago and mentioned a problem about fonts sometimes changing size after booting, I did "dxpyinfo | grep dots" and I got 75x75 (smallish) and now 101x101 (okayish)03:21
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knoppixhy ,i deleted my hda6 partition and hda7 was my /boot/ and hda8 was ,my root partition ,i rewrote fstab ,fixed the grub in the boot sector ,rewrote the grub menu ,what else do i haveto do?03:28
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mysql_testerhello folks03:29
mysql_testerI'm using mysql admin03:30
mysql_testerand cant view the content of a table03:30
mysql_testerit doesnt work03:30
knoppixmysql_tester, go to #mysql03:30
mysql_testeri'm on chan but nobody can tell me about03:31
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vikwes01!mp303:33
ubotuwell, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:33
ehjknoppix: is there a partition tool in the knoppix version 5.0 CD?03:36
knoppixi dunno i`m using 3.903:36
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ehjis there one in 3.9?03:37
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knoppixyes03:39
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NakkelWhen my desktop is locked I cant unlock it because the unlock dialog wont accept my password. I was pointed that this can happen if "kcheckpass" doesnt have proper SUID bits. How do I change the SUID bits for "kcheckpass"?03:43
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slow-motionhallo03:47
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pussfellerisn't there a server list of popular irc nets in konversation?03:58
mth`MAWnot inmy distri04:00
pussfellerme neitehr04:01
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Itenielhali04:07
Itenielki tud nekem segteni?04:08
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fekhi04:08
fekhow do i synchronesize my nokia 6630 with evolution over multisync?04:09
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_curtis_can someone help me upgrade Firefox to 1.5?  I tried the suggestion here : http://www.ubuntux.org/firefox-1-5-locally-on-my-ubuntu-5-10  but didn't work.04:16
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_curtis_i unpacked it and moved it but the symbolic link didn't seem to work.  1.07 still comes up04:17
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Snake___curtis_: can I make a suggestion?04:22
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_curtis_sure04:23
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_ubuntuhi04:24
Snake___curtis_: use this04:24
Snake__!klik04:24
ubotuklik is probably a simple way to "install" programs! Simply install their client with "wget klik.atekon.de/client/install -O -|sh" then "sudo apt-get install binutils libstdc++5 rpm"! You can go to their site and "Shop!"04:24
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_curtis_ubotu: i can go to their site and "Shop"?04:27
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _curtis_04:27
Snake___curtis_: http://klik.atekon.de/04:27
Snake__Thats the site, you just go there, select the program you want to run, and it will install itself into a single file, when you delete the file that shows up on your desktop, thep program is uninstalled04:28
Snake__its great when you want a program not in the repos04:28
_curtis_Snake_ yep...checking it out now.  pretty neat.  Makes it simple to install for sure.04:28
_curtis_I'll give it a go.  Thanks!!!04:29
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Snake___curtis_: The only catch is, its not runable from command line (not like typing in "firefox") its a bit more work than that04:29
jshawAm I a total idiot, or is firefox not in the repositories for Dapper?04:30
Snake__jshaw: its there04:31
Snake__So I would say your a total idiot! :)04:32
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jshawthat is what I figured... this is my first time using Kubuntu or a Debian based distribution04:32
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jshawdo I need to add a repository to the source.list or something?04:32
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Snake__jshaw: Do you have your universe/multiverse repos uncommented?04:33
jshawyes04:33
Snake__jshaw: did you "sudo apt-get update"?04:33
jshawyep04:33
Snake__Hmm04:34
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jshawand sudo apt-get install firefox04:34
jshawwhich says04:34
Snake__Can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install firefox"?04:34
jshawjshaw@jshaw:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox04:34
jshawReading package lists... Done04:34
jshawBuilding dependency tree... Done04:35
jshawPackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:35
jshawThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:35
jshawis only available from another source04:35
jshawHowever the following packages replace it:04:35
jshaw  libnss304:35
jshawE: Package firefox has no installation candidate04:35
Snake__jshaw: Dont paste in the channel plz04:35
Snake__jshaw: try "apt-cache search firefox" and PASTEBIN that output to me04:35
jshawoh, sorry04:35
jshawok.. I am a total idiot.. I missed one of the repositories when I uncommented things04:37
_curtis_Snake_ keep getting that klik is not a registered protocol?04:37
Snake__Heh04:37
Snake___curtis_: what browser04:37
_curtis_Firefox04:37
_curtis_should I use Konquere04:37
Snake___curtis_: you have to program klik into that one, you can either A) Use Konq or B) Go to the FAQ and learn how to program protocols04:38
_curtis_Snake_: hehehe....I'll use Konq04:38
Snake__Alrighy04:38
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Snake__heyy Kamping_Kaiser04:39
Kamping_Kaiserhi Snake__04:40
Snake__Hows your night04:40
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Kamping_Kaiserwas good - i ws about to go to bed ;)04:40
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Snake__Ooo fun04:41
naliothKamping_Kaiser: you? bed/ say it aint so!04:41
Snake__lol04:41
Kamping_Kaisernalioth: my secret is out!04:41
Snake__jshaw: you got it now?04:42
jshawya, thanks a bunch04:42
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_curtis_Snake_: thanks for that.  Now I just have to figure out how to run it :p04:42
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Snake___curtis_: see that icon on your desktop?04:42
_curtis_firefox.cmg?  yeah....clicked it04:42
Snake___curtis_: then it should be loadin04:43
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_curtis_says Firefox is already running.  It's not but it says I may need to restart the system.  I'll give it a go.04:43
_curtis_Is it OK to change the Name? or move the Icon?  I don't like things on my desktop04:44
Snake___curtis_: that icon is your whole program. Everything bundled into one, you can burn that to a disk if you want and run it from there ;)04:44
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_curtis_so I guess it's ok to move it and put the Firefox Icon to it :)  It's runnign now.  THANKS!04:45
Snake__Woo!04:45
Snake__:)04:45
Snake__Enjoy04:45
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_curtis_oooo....how i love my kubuntu install.  I will enjoy.04:45
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Toaster^how do I get acroread by using apt-get?04:45
Toaster^I've added the multiverse deb-src04:46
jshawanyone have any problems with "tg3" drivers in dapper?04:47
Snake__Toaster^: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install acroread"04:47
Toaster^Snake__: tried that04:48
Snake__Toaster^: Pastebin what it says?04:48
Toaster^Package acroread is not available, but is referred to by another package04:48
naliothSnake__: did you inform about seveas repos?04:49
Snake__Toaster^: you sure you have the correct sources uncommented (enabled)?04:49
Snake__nalioth: Im not aware of seveas repo...04:49
nalioth!seveas04:49
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:49
naliothit has acroread04:49
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Snake__nalioth: so does the repos..04:50
naliothSnake__: the regular repos = ancient or borked (see above) version04:50
Toaster^Snake__: pretty sure..I do not need to add the source? It should already be there...disabled..?04:50
Snake__i see..04:50
Snake__nalioth: wanna help Toaster^ with that then? I know nothing about seava's repos04:51
naliothToaster^: open your /etc/apt/sources.list   for editing  (alt-f2 > kdesu kate)04:51
Toaster^I'm already there :)04:51
naliothToaster^: remove the # from in front of any line beginning with deb EXCEPT the line with 'backports' in it04:52
naliothput a # in front of any top lines beginning with deb-cdrom04:52
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Toaster^ok, done..I had uncommented the backports too04:53
naliothi don't care too much for backports04:53
naliothyou may go back later if you wish and enable them04:54
naliothnow find everywhere the word "universe" and replace it with "universe multiverse"04:54
Toaster^yep..but anyway..I've done apt-get update and apt-get install acroread still gives me the same result04:54
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naliothToaster^: see that link the bot spat out?04:55
nalioth!info acroread04:56
ubotuacroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB04:56
naliothToaster^: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get update"    acroread should be there04:56
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Toaster^nalioth: same message :/05:00
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jshawThis is driving me crazy, ever 5-10 minutes my networking interface drops05:02
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naliothToaster^: hang on a minute05:03
Toaster^ok..thanks for helping me :)05:03
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naliothok Toaster^ put his at the bottom of your sources.list     #seveas repos <enter>  deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all  <enter> deb-src http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all05:05
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WolfManz611WEhen is the next major version of Kubuntu comming out anyone know?05:05
jshawaround April according to the website05:06
WolfManz611is it worth installing any of these flight things they have out?05:06
naliothit'll be around june 1st, dapper was pushed back05:06
crimsunno, that's outdated05:06
crimsunas nalioth mentioned05:06
naliothhi crimsun where ya been hidin?05:07
crimsunbusy as a bee05:07
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Toaster^thanks nalioth!05:09
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WolfManz611is it worth installing any of these flight things they have out?05:09
naliothWolfManz611: not really, wait for a Release Candidate05:10
WolfManz611ok thanks i know this version i have now has bugs in it like the drive icons not showing up on the desktop for whatever reason05:10
tininplease, does someone use zoto.com (like flirk) to upload photos? Do you know a program to upload photos (like fspot) for kde??05:11
naliothToaster^: you update and get all that good stuff ?05:11
WolfManz611no whats the fastest way to do that?05:11
WolfManz611its been a few months since i have been in kubuntu05:12
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jshawI assume if you are running breezy when the next verison comes out you are probably much and apt-get dist-update away from getting it?05:12
crimsunif I understand what you asked, yes05:12
jshawok.. in English.. all you have to do is an apt-get dist-upgrade to go from Breeze to the next version when it comes out05:13
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crimsunwell, there are a variety of ways. You can get a Dapper cd, pop it in, reboot, and choose the Update option. Or, you can update your sources.list, change breezy-> dapper, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.05:14
crimsunThere's work on an easier upgrade path using a gui tool.05:14
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jshawas long as the upgrade bath doesn't involve a reinstall it is fine with me... I've switched from Slackware to Gentoo about 3 years ago because it was a royal pain everytime a new version was released...05:16
naliothjshaw: you should never have to "reinstall" ever again05:17
naliothjshaw: stay away from non official repos and pkgs (they don't play well when it comes time to upgrade)05:17
jshawthat is what I was hoping for, I like the interface and the default tool set so far... though I think installing Flight 5 as my first Kubuntu experience was a bit of a mistake.. I'm going to step down to the stable release05:18
WolfManz611i got v5.10 do they have something better then that out now?05:18
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naliothjshaw: what issues are you having with dapper (discuss for dapper in #ubuntu+1 btw)05:20
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Toaster^nalioth: I did  get acroread, but when I ran apt-get update I got an error when updating the sources you gave me...something about signatures..I'll check05:20
Toaster^W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D46605:21
naliothubotu: tell Toaster^ about seveas05:21
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naliothToaster^: read the wiki page, you'll be sorted05:21
Toaster^ok, thank you very much for your help!05:21
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hokahey05:31
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Unitydoes anyone if there is a way to password protect opening particular folders through konqueror?05:31
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hokamaybe you can change the owner of the folder05:33
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bhnaUnity: kgpg05:35
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Unitybhna: but this wont lock the directory entirely, in case i lose the folder when it keeps the encrypted pasword or whatever?05:40
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WolfManz611is there a way to get the SU password if you forget what it is?05:43
hokaif you using older ubuntu without some recent update05:44
naliothWolfManz611: there is no SU password05:44
naliothubotu: tell WolfManz611 about root05:44
bhnaUnity: then you can change thos service menu: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1122705:45
bhnaUnity: thos -> this05:45
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nico8481re05:54
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bmcIt's just crazy...05:59
chemajaI've just installed kubuntu-desktop after cracking the shits at Gnome 2.14 on my fresh Dapper install.06:00
chemajaPerhaps is my current listening music ("The Passion", Peter Gabriel), but KDE is absolutely knocking my socks off.06:00
chemajaSo clean, elegant and just... tight. Amazing.06:00
chemajaKudos to the KDE community for their vision and talent.06:00
chemajaps. thanks to the gurus over at art.gnome.org for the background image; I came across it while customising my Gnome session earlier today. You guys surely do rock.06:00
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chemaja-chemaja06:00
chemaja;-)06:00
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WolfManz611is there a way to get the drive icons up on the desktop? mine should be displaying but there is nothing there06:01
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fabioFxhi06:25
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Far^Sidehello, I wonder if it's possible to restart the USB subsystem, without having to restart my computer? Because, sometimes when I connect my USB SD card reader to my Natural Keybard Pro's built in USB hub, the keyboard stops working, and the "lsusb" program just hangs, and displays nothing. Then I can't connect new USB devices. My already connected USB mouse still works though.06:25
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naliothm5m: how is it goin?06:26
m5mhiya nalioth pretty good :-P06:27
m5mnalioth: got amarok 1.4 pretty much working after using checkinstall; it was kindof fun; Now I'm trying to figure out how to reformat a mounted vfat drive so I can have more internal room for my music files rather than keeping them on an external hd06:28
m5mGotta keep the win32 section for some proprietary apps on that internal hdd, but want to reclaim 80% of it for *nix.  Anyone have experience downsizing a win partition and reclaiming what's left?06:29
m5mor should I just (ahem) obtain a copy of partition magic and try using that?06:30
naliothwhy reformat? *nix reads/write to fat32 just fine06:31
Far^Sidem5m, If it's NTFS I guess you should try with PQmagic06:31
Far^Sideoh I didn't see that you said it was vfat...06:31
m5mnalioth: hmm that's true huh!  that never occured to me.06:31
m5mmuch simpler06:32
naliothm5m: with *nix "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"06:32
m5mI love it when my project queue suddenly dwindles with a simple revelation06:32
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nalioth<ahem>06:33
m5m:-P06:34
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Far^Sidem5m, you might also try to find some ext3 drivers for WinXP, and then format that partition to ext06:35
naliothm5m: i've been windows free since the year 2000. if i can do it, anyone can.06:36
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m5mnalioth: I'm pretty much windows free at home; my wife gets a few windows-only multimedia cds from her school that won't work under wine... if not for that, I'd wipe it completely06:36
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Far^Sidenalioth, I'm also kinda windows free (on my main computer at least), but I have an old winxp box in the corner (connected to, using rdesktop)06:37
naliothFar^Side: m5m is using fat32, so no problems06:38
m5merr I think it' might be ntfs is that bad?06:38
Far^Sidenalioth, yes I see that, but ext3 is far much better than fat32 (Not sure if the XP drivers is that good though)06:39
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BrackenCan anyone help me with a new kubuntu install that won't load kde?06:45
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naliothBracken: ask your question06:45
BrackenThe problem (I think) is that it is trying to use my onboard graphics card, instead of my pci g-force06:46
BrackenI don't know how to change the configuration06:46
naliothBracken: disable your onboard card in the bios06:46
Brackenokay06:46
Brackenonce I do that will it automaticall detect the other card?06:47
BrackenDo I change it under Primaty Video controller? It can be set to 'Auto' or 'onboard'06:48
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naliothBracken: it should detect the other card06:50
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SkrotOkay. Who was it that has responsibility for fine tuning Kubuntu so it looks neat at standard? Because my fontsize seems to me jumping up and down like crazy each time I restart my computer or my X. As in verdana 7 is bigger og smaller each time06:51
SkrotDapper by the way. So I guess something is changing between dist-upgrades06:54
BrackenIs there a command I can run to make it check which card to use? Because it doesn't start x because it says its trying to use the intel onboard graphics controller. Sorry, i'm no linux expert.06:55
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Brackenin the xorg.conf file it only has the intel graphics device06:56
nalioth!xcfg06:56
ubotuxcfg is, like, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:56
naliothBracken: ^^^^06:56
Brackenokay06:56
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kimois there a GUI network tool to allow me to connect to WEP WLANs?06:57
Brackensorry, I can't tell which xserver driver to choose. I have a (pci) G-force fx 550006:57
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naliothBracken: write down that dpkg command, disable your onboard card in the bios, and if the card isnt recognized, you can run that command from the console06:58
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Brackenokay, but did you see my above question.  I can set the primary video controller to 'auto' or 'onboard'. It's set to 'auto'06:59
naliothyou can't disable the onboard controller, Bracken ?07:00
BrackenI guess I don't know how. Sorry07:00
nexusmy GUI login screen has the windows manager fvwm on it. i want to edit it to run fvwm-themes-start. what file do i edit07:00
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naliothBracken: somewhere in your bios it'll have an option to disable the onboard things07:02
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nico8481anybody involved in libkcddb ?07:03
Brackenthere is a section called integrated devices, and in that there is a setting called 'Primary Video Controller' Would that be it?07:03
naliothBracken: that is it07:04
Brackenokay, but it can only be set to 'auto' or 'onboard'07:04
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jahshuahello07:07
jahshuacan anyone help me change my window manager please07:08
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niels_Hmm... Kubuntu Dapper is really unstable. Apps keeps crashing all the time... that sucks!07:09
Jupp3Yeah, it's obvious that everyone else must have same kind of problems too07:09
niels_Neither kdesvn or cervisia is usable at all.07:10
nico8481niels_: that's probably why it hasn't been released yet :-)07:11
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niels_nico8481: I know. I'm just frustrated atm.07:11
nico8481so am i07:11
nico8481but not for the same reasons :p07:12
naliothnico8481: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion07:12
niels_nico8481: Ok :-) fair enough...07:12
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niels_nico8481: Ok07:12
nico8481nalioth: i'm not interested in a dapper discussion07:12
niels_nico8481: How about a "Ubunut flamefest channel"...?07:12
naliothBracken: that sounds strange, is that the only option for video?07:12
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nico8481niels_: hu? :)07:13
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Brackenyeah, I have a Dell Dimension 300007:13
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BrackenI also have a video memory option, 1 or 8 mb.07:13
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nico8481damn, nobody seems to care anywhere about KDE ripping albums with wrong names, that's strange...07:15
nico8481told about it on #kde, #kde-devel, #amaroK, nobody gives a shit07:16
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miguelangelhello07:16
epinephrihi, I've just installed kubuntu on my laptop and can't for the life of me figure out how to play mp3s in amarok. the web says to install gstreamer, but I can't get amarok to use gstreamer, or it tells me to install things that don't show up in apt07:16
miguelangelI have a problem with the mouse: the middle button doesn't works, but the wheel (on the middle button) does07:17
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Jupp3epinephri: libmad something... You need to install that07:17
CheeseBurgerManDoesn't amarok use gstreamer by default?07:17
Jupp3epinephri: And you need to adjust your sources07:17
epinephriused xine by default here07:17
nico8481epinephri: i bumped into something about that earlier today, and from what i remember they advised to use xine instead of gstreamer07:17
Jupp3The file with servers, where it gets stuff from07:17
naliothubotu: tell epinephri about repos07:17
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naliothepinephri: enable universe and multiverse repositories07:18
epinephriI've done that07:18
epinephrifirst thing I did ;P07:18
Jupp3Yeah, those were the names07:18
klugezepinephri: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:19
klugezhave you checked that?07:19
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ikarosafter installing ati drivers my fonts are borked(huge) is this a known problem?07:19
epinephriyep, klugez07:19
epinephrione sec, will be more detailed about what's going on over here07:20
epinephriit says to install gstreamer-mad.. amarok does not know about gstreamer07:20
Jupp3Worked at work nicely07:21
klugezyou have installed gstreamer0.8-mad?07:21
Jupp3Don't even have Amarok at home07:21
epinephriI'm on flight 5, if that changes anything07:21
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epinephriyes07:21
klugezoh, dapper07:22
klugezamarok is using xine?07:22
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epinephriyes, was like that when I installed it07:22
klugeztry installing libxine-extracodecs07:22
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nico8481dapper_sucks: could you check the version of libkcddb in dappler plz?07:22
epinephriI searched for that, but it isn't there07:22
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epinephriin adept07:23
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rishihey guys07:23
epinephriugh, what have I done :P07:24
Jupp3hey guy07:24
klugezepinephri: hmm, i have it installed07:24
klugezseems to come from multiverse, are you sure you have enabled it?07:24
Jupp3epinephri: Of course you can always search for package name in google07:24
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klugezhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs07:25
miguelangelnoone knows what could be the problem? I can't open another tab/paste anything middleclicking07:25
klugezyep, it's in multiverse07:25
klugezmiguelangel: what kind of mouse do you have?07:26
epinephrithanks, I'll try tweaking my repos07:26
Jupp32-button? :P07:26
rishihey guys, i am getting an error when trying to install automatix...it is saying that it depends on zenity but package zenity is not installed.  How do i install it?07:26
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miguelangelklugez: a logitech trackman marble+07:26
miguelangelit worked on another install07:27
nalioth!automatix07:27
ubotuI heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.07:27
epinephriI've just enabled "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse"07:27
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rishioh what's up naliot07:27
rishih07:27
epinephriand fetch updates'd07:27
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naliothrishi: hoping you won't use automatix. most of the stuff is at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:28
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klugezmiguelangel: many-buttoned mouses are sometimes tricky to set up, try googling with your mouse name and linux, xorg or something07:30
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madacfwhere are girlskissing videos07:31
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madacfmaiby unity will help me or no?07:33
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epinephrilibxine-extracodecs appears now, thanks a lot klugez :)07:34
epinephriI used to use gentoo, it's all very different over here07:35
epinephrigod help me when the time comes to setup the wireless07:35
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b0nnHi all07:36
b0nnI had a bug with knode in kubuntu, I googled round, and found it had been reported https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/1667307:37
b0nnI edited the bug report to say I was also having the issue, then last night I found the problem, and a *fix* of sorts07:37
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b0nnwhich I also added to the bug report07:38
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b0nnThe problem is.. Im not sure if that bug report is being watched (the orig bug was reported november last year)07:39
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Dr_Housecan anyone tell me why i keep getting an "error loading operating system" error after installing kubuntu 5.10 and ununtu 5.10?07:41
lordvalorsounds like the default message from a harddisk07:42
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lordvalorin the mbr07:42
b0nnalmost like grub cant find the os07:42
lordvalordid you install grub?07:42
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lordvalornope, thats not a grub error07:42
Dr_Houseit didn't give me an option to install grub07:42
CellarDoorhey folks07:42
lordvalorwould be kernel faulting07:42
lordvalorstrange, do you have dual boot dr?07:43
Dr_Houselord, no .. i was getting this same error when i had windows installed as well so i wiped that out and linux is the only thing on here right now07:43
CellarDooranyone got advice on spam filters, or a favorite filter ?07:43
lordvalorokay dr07:44
lordvalorwell, strange thing. you chat from another machine, right?07:44
Dr_Houseyup07:44
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lordvalorwhats the bios settings of the machine for the HD, LBA or CHS07:45
lordvalorshould be LBA however, linux would get that. did you repartition the whole disk?07:46
Dr_Housei've got a raptor, an SATA hd and an IDE hd .. the raptor is where i've installed linux and that has first boot priority in bios .. if that's what you mean07:46
lordvalorah yah07:47
Dr_Houseyes, i wiped the disk in the linux installer .. gave 10 gigs to ext3 and 2 gigs to swap space07:47
lordvalorsounds normal. already tried to switch off the other hds? (cut their power supply)07:47
Dr_Houseah, no haven't tried that yet07:48
lordvalormaybe the boot order isnt that ordered :)07:48
lordvalormaybe grub got installed on the wrong mbr07:48
Dr_Houselol07:48
lordvalorif you hang off the other disks, and error repeats itself, try installing the linux without the other harddisks07:49
lordvalorhowever, dunno what a raptor is07:49
Dr_Houseraptor is just a 10,000 rpm hd07:49
lordvalorATA or SCSI or SATA?07:50
Dr_HouseSATA07:50
lordvalorah k07:50
Dr_Houseok, i unplugged the other disks .. i'll try installing again07:50
lordvalortry boot first07:50
Dr_Housei did, it failed07:50
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Dr_Housewhen i get to the partition table screen, can you verify that i have the right settings?07:51
CellarDooranyone got advice on spam filters, or a favorite filter ?07:52
lordvalorwell, okay. the error you described is read out of a harddisk mbr, its the default string there, which is sometimes english or native language, depending on which tool touched it last time. so it tried to boot from a MBR which wasnt correctly set up07:52
lordvalori use, "seek and delete"07:52
lordvalor:D spam assassin in kmail here07:52
lordvaloryeah Dr-House Query it to me07:52
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lordvalorafc07:53
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gamxxwitam08:02
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madacf!!list08:04
ubotumadacf: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:04
ikaroswhere can i adjust the dpi for the fonts used by xorg? since i updated my ati drivers my fonts are huge08:04
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epinephriis there a graphical wifi manager that supports wpa?08:07
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_jonathanhi, I'm trying to add a printer from a server 2k3 box with smb, i can add the printer with no problem. but it will not print08:10
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ganymed_hallo08:17
_jonathanno one seems to be here08:18
ganymed_i have just updated to kde 3.5.1. however, when i open pics on a dvd with kuickshow, it copies them to /tmp. how can i revert that behaviour?08:18
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apokryphosganymed_: what if you open with gwenview?08:19
ganymed_there it works. but i would like to use kuicktime...08:20
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apokryphosganymed_: kuickshow. Why?08:21
apokryphosganymed_: if there isn't an option in its settings, then I doubt it'd be easy.08:21
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ganymed_i like it... i just need it for pic viewing... fast enough, automatic orientation of the pics...08:24
ganymed_but why did they change this... this doesn't make sense at all... this is so m$-like...08:25
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ganymed_they shouldn't try to make things better that cannot be made better...08:26
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daforzewhat is the best firewall on kde08:28
daforzelike firestarter08:28
l3mdaforze: guarddog + guidedog are pretty easy to use08:28
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daforzeokay thnx08:28
l3mdaforze: but all firewalls on linux use the same backend08:28
l3mdaforze: so the only difference is the gui ;)08:28
daforzeyeah iptables or something?08:28
l3myeah08:28
ganymed_any ideas about this kuickshow behaviour?08:30
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ganymed_ciao08:34
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ranceI just installed the kdeutils package, and now Im running kfloppy to format a series of floppies to make sure the floppy disks are still good, kfloppy is giving me an error telling me I dont have access to the floppy device, my user is a member of the floppy group, so what should I do?08:37
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murph2481can anyone help me with cups?08:38
murph24811 of my computers works fine but this one doesn't :(08:38
murph2481i get cups: Child exited on signal 15!08:38
murph2481tried unistalling and reinstalling an no go08:39
rancemurph: you trying to access cups printers on the other box?08:39
murph2481nope all local to this box08:39
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murph2481any suggestions for the cups problem?08:43
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angasulesay, I have a 1.5GB .rar and I have 2GB of free space, unrar is apparently retarded and requires twice the size of the files...08:44
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lordvalorthen get more space08:44
angasulelordvalor: that's MS-speak!08:45
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n3stormXDD08:45
angasule2GB is more than enough to extract 1.5GB worth of data, the program is at fault08:45
n3stormfunny08:45
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n3stormrar is not freesoftware08:45
n3stormblame that08:46
angasuleor is it a feature? :P08:46
angasuleactually, I mostly blame the retard that chose to rar videos08:46
lordvaloreven then, think about it, maybe it needs more space to extract. and if the rar file is 1.5 gigs, maybe unrared size is even bigger.08:46
angasulebut the retardedness of requiring 3GB+ to get 1.5GB of data is pretty bad, too08:47
n3stormXDD08:47
angasulelordvalor: ok, I'm rounding values a bit, it's more like 1.5GB rar and 1.8GB unrared, but I have about 2.2GB (that's 400GB more than needed)08:48
angasuleno file in the .rar is 400MB, so even if it were extracting one file to a temp and then moving, it'd have enough space08:48
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lordvalorwhat ya using to unrar, commandline?08:49
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angasuleno, midnight commander08:50
lordvalorwell try unrar x file.rar08:50
lordvalorcant believe its not working, always worked here08:51
lordvalorand i am low spaced very often08:51
angasulewhat's worse, depending on which partition the .rar file is and to which partition I'm decompressing, I get an error or just a full drive and no error...08:52
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koplihHi, everybody. I just finished installation of Kubuntu 5.10 few minutes ago and I have a problem. In KDE after a minute or so it just gets stuck - I can move mouse cursor, but it doesn't change (hand -> cursor etc.). Any suggestions?08:56
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n3stormkoplih: you get no actions?08:56
leafwno fix for Dapper Flight 5 liveCD yet? Still an unburnable 718 MB ??? Noone double-checked the size of the iso?08:57
koplihn3storm: yes - no actions - the grapics is stuck - freezed08:57
naliothleafw: my flight5 burnt just fine08:58
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koplihIf it helps: I have ECS K7S6A motherboard with AMD XP2200+, 768MB RAM, 120GB Maxtor disk, GF620008:59
leafwnalioth: the live CD for ppc?08:59
leafwI can't burn it08:59
leafwI forced a burn using cdrecord -overburn and if failed in the very last sectors09:00
n3stormkoplih: mmm gforce6200?09:00
leafwand it doesn't boot09:00
naliothleafw: on that i'm not sure, have you checked the daily images?09:00
n3stormkeyboard frozen too?09:00
leafwdaily where ?09:00
naliothleafw: cdimage.ubuntu.com09:00
leafwI got it from here09:00
koplihn3storm: yes Asus N6200/TD 128MB, AGP09:00
leafwhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/09:00
leafwsee the live CD ppc09:01
naliothleafw: you need to move up the tree a few directories to the "daily-live"09:01
leafw718 MB ! and they are real, the burners complain.09:01
koplihn3storm: keyboard too - ctrl+alt+del isnt helping - just reset09:01
deanhello all im having a strange problem where my laptops keyboard is missing letters as im typing. anyoe ever heard of this happening before?09:01
deanits not just me thats hocking at typing too :D09:01
n3stormkoplih: mm sorry I don't know what your problem can be...09:01
koplihn3storm: thanks anyway09:02
n3stormkoplih: you checked your xorg.conf file is ok?09:02
Dr_Housei need to put the bootable flag on my EXT3 partition, right?09:02
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leafwhum ,ok, let's seet he daily isos09:02
n3storm"/etc/X11/xorg.conf"09:02
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Snake__Hey guys, how would I become a Ubuntero?09:02
koplihn3storm: in that one minute i saw nothing unusual09:02
leafwnalioth: was it you that asked about setting up an externa monitor for a ppc laptop09:02
leafwnalioth: I got it to work, finally09:03
n3stormkoplih: tail says anything useful?09:03
leafwtook me less than an hour, following this tutorial: http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/09:03
naliothleafw: i have my monitors well in hand, thank you. (no it was not)09:03
leafwnalioth: nm09:04
koplihn3storm: and first problem was with mouse - i got stuck everytime a right-clicked - so i switched from PS2 to usb and it helped09:04
Snake__nalioth: have you signed the CoC?09:04
n3stormkoplih: so you are ok now?09:05
naliothSnake__: anyone who has an ubuntu cloak has signed it09:05
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koplihwith the mouse yes but the KDE freezes anyway09:05
sledgeI seem to have a problem running my LCD screen in its native resolution (1280x800). I have a dual screen setup and my first screen (the LCD) is the same resolution as the second screen (1024x768). I am using the ATI drivers and have looked around the forum, but couldn't find a solution. Is there somebody here who had the same kind of problem and was able to solve it?09:05
Snake__nalioth: didnt see you had that :)09:05
Snake__nalioth: how would I go about signing it?09:05
koolatroncan anyone tell me why my usbhd does not get automounted anymore?09:05
naliothSnake__: make a launchpad account for yourself09:05
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koolatroni can mount it myself via pmount or regular mount09:06
koplihhttp://si.wz.cz/beda/xorg.conf09:06
leafwanyone on dapper-ppc? Can they try to open an opengl app such as glgears over an ssh -X connection to an intel machine ?09:06
koolatronbut it used to, upon insertion, pop up a konq window and give me an icon on the desktop09:07
leafwit's an old bug in breezy ...09:07
deananyone ever heard of an annoying keyboard not registering keypresses problem before?09:07
koplihn3storm: the xorg.conf says that my grap. chip is unknown - can be that the problem?09:09
leafwtoday's live CD image is 724 MB, even larger09:09
leafwcrazy09:09
leafwcan't burn that.09:09
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leafwit even has a tag that says "dapper-live-powerpc.OVERSIZED"09:10
n3stormmaybe09:10
n3stormkoplih: try startx from root09:10
n3stormand see if it freezes09:11
koplihn3storm: im in win now :] 09:11
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koplihn3storm: ill try that later - i have some work to do, thanks for suggestion09:12
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n3stormtry with another wmanager too09:12
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koplihn3storm: i dont know what wmanger is09:13
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naliothkoplih: kde or gnome or enlightenment09:13
n3stormnalioth: thanks, thats right koplih09:14
koplihand how can i change that?09:14
n3stormapt-get install icewm09:14
n3stormstartx icewm09:14
koplihthx09:14
n3stormgood luck09:14
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_jonathanCan anyone help me with my printer PLEASE...I'm about to go insane09:19
_jonathanI'm trying to print from a shared printer on my server 2k3 box09:19
_jonathani can add the printer but it will not print09:19
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sledgeI seem to have a problem running my LCD screen in its native resolution (1280x800). I have a dual screen setup and my first screen (the LCD) is the same resolution as the second screen (1024x768). I am using the ATI drivers and have looked around the forum, but couldn't find a solution. Is there somebody here who had the same kind of problem and was able to solve it?09:25
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leafwsledge: powerpc?09:28
leafwsledge: I solved the problem09:28
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Xeonwalesafternoon09:28
leafwfollowing instructions here: http://www.jamendo.com/us/09:29
Xeonwalescan some1 please tell me the diff between ubuntu & kubuntu??09:29
leafwXeonwales: different desktop environment. That's all.09:29
naliothXeonwales: gnome and kde09:29
Xeonwalesthats the diff between KDE & Gnome though??09:29
klugezXeonwales: quite a lot, see their websites for screenshots and such09:30
leafwXeonwales: after all, yes, gnome and kde are "just" desktops. In day to day, you can get as easily used to one than the other.09:32
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klugezXeonwales: you should try both and see which one you like09:33
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Xeonwalesi cant. wireless wont work on laptop with ubuntu.09:34
klugezkde and gnome can be installed in parallel into same (k)ubuntu installation09:34
Xeonwalesim using linspire @ the mo09:34
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Xeonwalesreally, really want to move to ubuntu09:34
Xeonwalesor kubuntu09:35
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xleohola09:38
xleohello?09:38
kakaltohello there :)09:38
leafwhola/hello09:38
leafwque pasa09:38
kakaltono intiendo espanol?09:38
kakalto(me)09:38
m5mI just re-partitioned a secondary drive... is there a gui utility will allow me to add it to fstab & automount ?09:39
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_magushmm. installed the gstreamer package which is supposed to install all the codecs. and i can't get any of the video sinks working with neither kaffeine or VLC... i have the nvidia drivers installed tho. any ideas?09:41
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m5m_magus: did you get w32 codecs?09:41
m5m!restricted formats09:42
ubotuit has been said that restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'09:42
_magusis it a separate package?09:42
simianis quanta still the best web dev software for KDE09:42
m5mcheck that link _magus09:42
_maguswill do. thanks.09:42
_magusditch that. i got aasink to work on some degree :D09:43
_magusnot that it comforts me greatly.09:43
nalioth!es09:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:43
_magusoh well. off to get wiser.09:43
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m5mhey nalioth if I have new partitions available, it's just a matter of deciding where to mount them and adding some lines to fstab right?09:45
_magusm5m: that's about it.09:46
naliothm5m: that is correct09:47
_magusfor the record, what did mtab do?09:47
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m5mwhat about switching my swap space out to a new partition on a secondary drive?  Isn't that supposed to improve performance?  Will I even notice?09:48
djk_is it possible to install grub without installing kubuntu with the kubuntu-cd?09:49
naliothm5m: unless you are running a high traffic server, probably not09:49
naliothm5m: how much ram is on the box now?09:50
_magusdjk_: i think you can access console from cd, if that's what you wanted to know.09:50
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m5monly 512, but it's supposed to run 1gb... I think there's a glitch on the mobo that causes errors with both sticks in... it runs fine with just one (and I have switched it with the other)09:50
m5mso swap size is currently 1.4gb on the main physical disk09:51
naliothm5m: imho you have an overkill swap space09:51
m5myeah it was set for 1gb ram09:52
_magusm5m: thanks for the help with the codecs. that did the trick.09:52
naliothbut i doubt you'll see a difference if you have the swap on another physical drive09:52
m5mbut I'm only running 512 you think it's still overkill for 1gb?09:52
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m5mok, what would you resize it to nalioth09:52
m5mand np _magus, thank ubotu :-P09:52
naliothm5m: m5m i'd match the physical ram you have present (any swap over 768 is wasted, imho)09:53
m5mokies; also if you'd added addition storage space where would you mount it (I realize this is largely a matter of preference) I'm considering inside my home directory...09:53
djk__magus: yea, ash. but it didn't recognize grub-install /dev/sda09:54
_magusdjk_: you need to chroot?09:55
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naliothm5m: i mount all my things into /media and symlink them to where i need them09:55
naliothor /mnt/hdX09:56
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_magusis there way to link folders without them ending up as nondescript files that only konqueror can handle?09:56
m5mok that sounds good; symlink a dir is 'ln -s /mnt/hdX /home/user/hdX' right?  or does symlinking a dir add a flag nalioth?09:57
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naliothyou can ln -s /mnt/hdX /home/user/anything_you_want_to_call_it09:58
naliothi have several dirs symlinked to other drives09:58
_magusdjk_: can't message you back.09:58
m5myeah ok sounds good :-P ; where do you mount via nfs?  also to /media ?09:59
_magusbut it's better if i answer you here, so others can correct any mistakes09:59
_magusdjk_: it takes two parameters. first is where do you want to chroot. (i.e. the root of the mounted filesystem) and a shell on the root of the mounted filesystem (i.e. /bin/bash)09:59
naliothm5m: anywhere you like10:00
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_magusthe grub-install should work from there.10:00
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djk__magus: i'm still not quite sure what the chroot command would look like10:02
deananyone ever heard of a strange problem wh keyboards not registering keypresses under kubuntu?10:03
deanwh should have been where and shows my problem exactly :D10:03
_magusfirst you need to mount the hd you want to install grub on10:04
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_maguslet's say you mount it on /mnt/hda10:05
_magusor whatever.10:05
_maguschroot /mnt/hda /bin/bash should do it10:05
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_magusbe wary that the filesystem you're chrooting into does have /bin/bash tho :P10:06
_magusand other necesseties. oh well, you just need to reinstall the MBR, right?10:08
djk__magus: so, if i'm at the ash shell, i do mount -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt/sda , then chroot /mnt/sda /bin/bash and then grub-install /dev/sda ?10:09
djk_yes, just need it installed to the MBR10:09
ikarosis the kde theme manager not in the kdebase package?10:09
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_magusdjk_: well. do give it a shot. if it doesn't work, i can't imagine any harm done to the system10:12
_magusit _is_ a linux system on the sda, right?10:13
_magusnow wait a minute.10:14
djk__magus: no, two win systems.10:14
_magusright. then this is a bit trickier than just chrooting into it.10:14
vickshow do i make kopete and superkaramba to start at startup?10:15
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_magushum. let me get this right. you want to use grub to multiboot two windows systems?10:16
djk_yes10:16
_magusright. well, i'd imagine you'd need a boot partition to put grub onto.10:17
_magusi suppose it could work10:17
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djk_but why would i need a boot partition if it's installed to the mbr?10:18
_jameshello?10:18
jtshawgrub needs to find its second stage files to work10:18
_magusbecause the binaries and config files for grub still reside on the hd10:19
_jamesyeah I was wondering if there is a way for me to install KDE 3.5 from KDE 3.410:19
_magusany particular reason you want to use grub for this? i thought windows had its own multiboot utility10:20
djk__magus: well, it had.. the boot.ini of win2k got screwed when i installed win95. i forgot that win isn't as nice as linux.10:22
_maguswhy not try using the w2k disc to recover from it?10:22
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djk__magus: because i don't have that cd.. i bought the pc from my university.10:24
jtshawI'm really starting to get confused here, the Kubuntu installer sees my eithernet interfaces as "eth0 - ipw2200" and "eth1 - bcm5705"  When the system boots the tg3 driver comes up and says  "eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM5705mA1)..." and later comes up and says eth1 link detected.  Anyone know why it would change10:24
_magusdjk_: then you're pretty much stuck with w95..10:25
_magusyou _do_ have a choice, tho.10:25
_magusand i'd imagine anything would beat using w95.10:25
djk__magus: i could of course resize the NTFS on which win2k is installed, and then install kubuntu. but it's only a 9gb hdd..10:25
djk__magus: actually, i bought the pc just because of win95.. for old games.10:26
_magusright. that makes sense.10:26
_maguswhere would you need the w2k partition then?10:27
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djk__magus: what do you mean?10:29
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murph2481is i reinstall flight 5 without formatting10:31
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murph2481do i lose all my settings?10:31
_magusah nevermind. if you really insist on being able to boot on both systems, if you could create a linux partition, i think it should be possible to boot on both systems. i don't just know how far you would need to get into the installation10:31
Dr_Housei installed ubuntu .. but when the machine boots, it asks me to login and takes me to a command prompt .. how do i get to the GUI?10:32
_magusi bet you need a working linux partition, even if it's minimal10:32
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_magusand i think ubuntu isn't the way to go then10:33
_maguswhy don't you try gentoo?10:33
_magusit should be able to do what you want just fine10:34
frank__Dr_House: you did a default install?10:34
Dr_Housefrank, i think so10:34
Dr_Housei just put int he cd and followed instructions10:34
_magusthat is, if you can resize the partition without having to format it.10:34
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frank__Dr_House: you should get the gui automatically. If not, you probably have a problem somewhere.  try logging in and  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start10:35
Dr_Housealright, lemme try that10:35
frank__Dr_House: you have kubuntu, right?10:35
Dr_Housefrank are you familiar with this problem: i'm installing dapper drake kubunut .. about 65% through, it puts my monitor into standby mode10:36
ikarosdoes any one have an idea why kde system settings dont show me the "look and feel" options for installing themes?10:36
Dr_Housefrank, yes, i think so .. when i boot up it says kubuntu10:36
murph2481Dr_house: great show!10:36
Dr_Househeh yeah10:36
frank__Dr_House: ok. I never tried installing dapper.10:36
murph2481love people with god complexes and no sympathy10:36
frank__Dr_House: did the installation complete10:36
djk__magus: okay, thanks.10:37
Dr_Housefrank, no, riight now it's stuck on "checking battery state"10:37
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frank__Dr_House: that is during boot?10:37
frank__Dr_House: maybe there is a problem with dapper. did you try installing breezy?10:38
ranceI have a question, I just installed kfloppy and tried to format a disk.  kfloppy exits witout formating the disk with an error stating that either the device its looking for either doesnt exist, or the permissions arent right, I checked that the user is in the floppy group, and I checked devices and my floppy drive device /dev/fd0 is available, but kfloppy is looking for /dev/fd0u1440 because I had to specify the size of the disk10:38
ranceice?10:38
Dr_Housefrank, this is breezy10:39
Dr_Housethe thing i mentioned with dapper is a different problem .. i gave up on dapper because of that10:39
Dr_Houseyeah, it's during boot10:39
frank__Dr_House: oh. so breezy doesn't get gui and dapper doesn't even install. You're not very lucky10:40
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frank__Dr_House: so what does sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start   do?10:40
Dr_Houselol10:40
Dr_Housefrank, i can't get to the command prompt10:40
Dr_Houseits stuck on "checking battery state"10:41
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Dr_Housei wonder if i shoudl just start again10:41
Dr_Houseformat it all and try installing again10:41
frank__Dr_House: bah...  there are boot options like noacpi or something but I don't know much about them.  If the breezy install completed successfuly, it will not be anydifferent the next time10:42
frank__Dr_House: maybe do a search for your laptop model in the forums and wiki. what is the model10:43
Dr_Housefrank, its a custom built desktop .. msi neo4 platinum motherboard, amd x2 3800+ cpu and raptor HD10:44
frank__Dr_House: then what battery is that? checking battery state10:44
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frank__I guessed wrong I think10:45
frank__Dr_House: ok then do searches for your motherboard maybe10:45
Dr_Houselol i dunno10:45
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frank__Dr_House: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64062&highlight=msi+neo4+platinum10:47
Dr_Houseah, thanks10:47
frank__Dr_House: maybe not the same problem though...10:48
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frank__are you using the amd64 or i386 version of ubuntu?10:48
ikarosplease do anyone tell me if the kde theme manager is standard or an extra package :/10:49
Dr_Houseamd6410:49
frank__Dr_House: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92485&highlight=msi+neo4+platinum   maybe a video card issue?  you could try the i386 version to see if it works better10:52
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frank__oh they put a common gaming forum. ubuntu and kubuntu are together. very nice!10:58
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sledgeI seem to have a problem running my LCD screen in its native resolution (1280x800). I have a dual screen setup and my first screen (the LCD) is the same resolution as the second screen (1024x768). I am using the ATI drivers and have looked around the forum, but couldn't find a solution. Is there somebody here who had the same kind of problem and was able to solve it?11:05
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lubohello, anyone knows some good program for resizing pictures in kubuntu?11:12
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naliothlubo: does krita work for that?11:15
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lubonailoth: don't know I will try it:-)11:17
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benjamindainesAnyone home?11:17
naliothnope, we're all at the beach11:18
benjamindainesah thats a shame now no one can help me compile something from source11:18
lubo:-) krita works no problem.. thanks11:18
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EightiesK!fat11:20
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, EightiesK11:20
EightiesK!fat3211:20
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:20
benjamindainesWell anyway, what's the easiest way to comple an app with terminal?11:20
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nalioth!compile11:21
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)11:21
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naliothbenjamindaines: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help ya with the compile stuff11:21
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_jonathanI'm having trouble mounting a server2k3 shared folder11:31
_jonathancan anyone help?11:31
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_jonathanlol....ok11:32
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_jonathanalright then...that's a no11:35
dbravohi11:35
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djk_the livecd includes everything to install grub, right?11:49
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ninHerhi all11:58
pataswinghi11:58
kakaltohello11:58
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pataswingis there any fast command to mount hard drives on Kubuntu Live 5.10 ? (lazyness forbids me from searching)11:59
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frank__pataswing: I think there is a script that does it12:01
frank__!automount12:01
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, frank__12:01
frank__!mount12:01
uboturumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f12:01
frank__!windowsdrives12:01
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f12:01

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