[12:05] <leafw>  rysiek|pl : in the System Settings, or whenever you plug in something push "config" in the menu
[12:05] <neoncode> When you first launch kaffene you get that first run wizzard thing, how do you run that again?
[12:06] <rysiek|pl> leafw: if you're gonna tell me it's in System Settings -> Storage Media or something, then no, it's not, it's KDE 3.4.3
[12:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> Update to KDE 3.5.1 ;)
[12:06] <rysiek|pl> leafw: and which menu are you talking about :)
[12:06] <rysiek|pl> CheeseBurgerMan: I'll wait for Dapper stable
[12:07] <rysiek|pl> it's my production system and I spent the better part of the last 3 months cofiguring it
[12:07] <rysiek|pl> :)
[12:07] <leafw> rysiek|pl: when you plug a usb pen, a popup comes up: just push the right button there to config
[12:07] <leafw> I may be wrong, I'm speaking from the top of my head
[12:08] <rysiek|pl> leafw: well, you are wrong - as I said, it's KDE 3.4.3
[12:08] <rysiek|pl> Just the Konqueror pops up
[12:09] <leafw> rysiek|pl: then see the kded settings in some obscure folder under /usr/local
[12:09] <White_Herring> LOL, my sister's 300mhz laptop has the same processor cache as my athalon 64 3500+
[12:09] <White_Herring> i didnt see that coming
[12:09] <leafw> rysiek|pl: or disable it completely in the System Services (a tab in the System Settings)
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> leafw: kded, sais you.... giving it a go ;)
[12:10] <leafw> kded is a service in the System Settings - KDE Components - Service Manager
[12:11] <leafw> the "kded media manager", these are the keywords for greping
[12:11] <nico8481> any idea where to find kcontrol in the menus ?
[12:11] <leafw> kcontrol == System Settings
[12:12] <rysiek|pl> leafw: got it... but it's nice to have the drives mounted, just to disable the konqueror popping
[12:12] <rysiek|pl> no, it's not ==
[12:12] <rysiek|pl> KControl is a *lot* more robust, IMHO
[12:12] <leafw> rysiek|pl: this is an option in the kded media manager config files, I disabled it once upon a time in kde 3.4 because it was failing miserably and eating up RAM
[12:14] <rysiek|pl> leafw: well, it works ok, just to get the popping konq... looking intoconf files for kded - remeber which one was it?
[12:14] <leafw> rysiek|pl: "media manager", these are the keywords ...
[12:14] <rysiek|pl> leafw: and where should I do the search? google? :] 
[12:15] <leafw> rysiek|pl: I remember at the bottom of the config file there is this autoload or something like that that needs to be disabled
[12:15] <leafw> rysiek|pl: in your /usr folder :)
[12:15] <rysiek|pl> argh! been looking in ~/.kde :] 
[12:19] <rysiek|pl> leafw: might it be this little thingy: X-KDE-Kded-autoload=true ? :)
[12:19] <leafw> rysiek|pl: yes
[12:20] <leafw> and beware there may be a second config file
[12:20] <leafw> or two lines
[12:20] <leafw> it was more than just one line, but not more than 2 o 3 xDD long time
[12:20] <rysiek|pl> well, ok, but I suppose it will disable the automounting the devices
[12:20] <leafw> automounting is fine, it's the autoload you don't want
[12:20] <leafw> they are separate
[12:20] <rysiek|pl> leafw: X-KDE-Kded-autoload=true and X-KDE-Kded-load-on-demand=true
[12:21] <leafw> rysiek|pl: yeah, that is
[12:21] <leafw> which file it is by the way? Full path?
[12:21] <rysiek|pl> /usr/share/services/kded/mediamanager.desktop :)
[12:21] <leafw> thanks
[12:22] <rysiek|pl> thanks? whoa, who helped whom? :] 
[12:22] <leafw> :)
[12:22] <rysiek|pl> thank you :)
[12:22] <leafw> amazing what one can do with a few keywords and grep, uh
[12:23] <rysiek|pl> aye :)
[12:23] <Red_Herring> grep! its a funny word
[12:23] <leafw> "get regular expression"
[12:23] <Red_Herring> w00t
[12:24] <nico8481> rysiek|pl: so any idea where to find it? (kcontrol)
[12:24] <leafw> nico8481: the binary? Under /usr/local/X11/bin maybe ?
[12:24] <rysiek|pl> nico8481: well I have it in KMenu -> Preferences -> Control Center
[12:25] <rysiek|pl> but that's because I upgraded from Hoary
[12:25] <nico8481> leafw: nope in the menus, because it's obviously not the same as "system settings"
[12:25] <leafw> nico8481: just create a new entry in the menu for it
[12:25] <nico8481> rysiek|pl: you have a "Preferences" in your main K menu ??
[12:26] <nico8481> leafw: yup that's an idea... just checking if it's not already there, hiding somewhere :)
[12:26] <rysiek|pl> nico8481: yep :)
[12:26] <leafw> nico8481: it isn't, that's why SysSets are there
[12:27] <nico8481> rysiek|pl: lol i haven't got :) i wonder if i haven't broken my kde install :P
[12:27] <rysiek|pl> leafw: well, shit, kded still fires Konqueror off... will poweroff and go to sleep, and then test it when the system gets up in the morning though :)
[12:27] <rysiek|pl> nico8481: no, it's me to blame, I have an upgraded Hoary
[12:27] <Red_Herring> anyone know how to log convos in kopete?
[12:27] <leafw> rysiek|pl: there are a few settings, other than the autoload and load and demand
[12:27] <leafw> rysiek|pl: just check them all
[12:27] <Red_Herring> just wondering ;-)
[12:28] <rysiek|pl> Red_Herring: there is a History module or smthng like that
[12:28] <Red_Herring> hrm
[12:28] <nico8481> rysiek|pl: yup me too, upgraded from hoary to whatever is the codename for 5.10 (under gnome), then did an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :P
[12:29] <Red_Herring> its not logging, but its close enough
[12:29] <Crashoveride> Hey guys I need a bittorent client for Kubuntu what should I get?
[12:29] <Red_Herring> ktorrent
[12:29] <rysiek|pl> nico8481: but I had KUBUNTU Hoary, that's the point :)
[12:29] <Hirvinen> Crashoveride: Azureus?
[12:29] <Crashoveride> ok
[12:29] <Crashoveride> ty
[12:29] <rysiek|pl> wow, that was quick :] 
[12:29] <Red_Herring> lol
[12:29] <nico8481> rysiek|pl: ok i got the picture :)
[12:30] <Red_Herring> thats our style
[12:30] <rysiek|pl> quick'n'dirty? :)
[12:30] <Red_Herring> :-P
[12:30] <rysiek|pl> you didn't tell him Azareus will eat up 80% of his CPU... ;)
[12:30] <Snake__> Im back!! :)
[12:30] <leafw> speaking about bit torrent, you guys need to know about a fantastic music site (all music is Creative Commons) that offers bit torrents and m3u: http://www.jamendo.com/us/
[12:30] <Datsunzoso> im havin trouble playin video on firefox, can someone just tell me what program they use for video and the plugin?
[12:30] <Red_Herring> w00t
[12:31] <rysiek|pl> ok, gonna get some sleep, cu all
[12:31] <Red_Herring> Datsunzoso: mozilla-mplayer
[12:31] <Datsunzoso> ive been trying to use that but everytime i wanna see a video it doesnt work
[12:31] <Datsunzoso> it just shows me the "missing plugin" thing on firefox
[12:33] <Datsunzoso> sigh :(
[12:42] <Datsunzoso> anyone think they can help me?
[12:42] <Datsunzoso> im havin trouble playin video on firefox, can someone just tell me what program they use for video and the plugin?
[12:42] <Datsunzoso> er... ive been using mplayer but it doesnt work
[12:42] <moi> mplayer plugin
[12:42] <Datsunzoso> yea ... it doesnt work
[12:43] <moi> Datsunzoso: sudo aptitude install mozilla-mplayer
[12:43] <moi> then, restart firefox and try
[12:43] <Datsunzoso> .... :| mplayer does not work
[12:43] <moi> :(
[12:43] <Datsunzoso> ive restarted firefox
[12:43] <Datsunzoso> i even tried vlc media player and it doesnt work
[12:43] <moi> try in a konsole "mplayer some_video.mpg" and tell me what happen
[12:44] <Datsunzoso> i can play the file but i want it to be in the firefox window, not open a different window
[12:44] <Datsunzoso> but in order to play file i also have to save it to hd
[12:45] <moi> try "about:plugins" in firefox and say me what you see
[12:45] <Datsunzoso> hmm, niether the mplayer nor the vlc plugins show up
[12:46] <moi> they were badly installed ! i can see them in my firefox !
[12:47] <moi> Datsunzoso: close ALL firefoxes, then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-mplayer" then restart firefox and try "about:plugins"
[12:49] <Datsunzoso> usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mozilla-mplayer is broken or not fully installed
[12:49] <Datsunzoso> not fully installed?
[12:49] <Datsunzoso> lol
[12:50] <slow-motion> n8
[12:50] <moi> Datsunzoso: sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-mplayer
[12:50] <moi>  Datsunzoso: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:52] <Datsunzoso> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                able)
[12:52] <Datsunzoso> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                ess using it?
[12:53] <Datsunzoso> what does that mean?
[12:53] <moi> Datsunzoso: do you forget the "sudo" before ?
[12:54] <moi> of do you have something else using dpkg launched, like adept or synaptic ?
[12:54] <Datsunzoso> er yea i got adept open
[12:54] <Datsunzoso> srry
[12:55] <Datsunzoso> well
[12:56] <Datsunzoso> er it stll doesnt show up in the plugins place
[12:56] <moi> :(
[12:56] <moi> it looks installed correctly now ?
[12:57] <Datsunzoso> well i think it is installed correctly, but it still doesnt show up on firefox in the about:plugins
[12:58] <MasterWolf> i all ready windows installed. how do i partition my HD
[12:59] <MasterWolf> i all ready have windows installed. how do i partition my HD
[12:59] <moi> Datsunzoso: dpkg -L mozilla-mplayer | grep so
[12:59] <Datsunzoso> ok
[01:00] <Datsunzoso> anything else?
[01:00] <moi> MasterWolf: you need a FREE space or partition on your hard driver in order to install ubuntu if you dont want to partition it at install time !
[01:00] <moi> MasterWolf: I suggest you to reduce your last partition by the space you want to give to your kubuntu installation
[01:01] <moi> Datsunzoso: what rsult do you get ?
[01:01] <MasterWolf> i dont have a partition yet
[01:01] <moi> MasterWolf: if you have non partitionned free space, is ok ;)
[01:01] <Datsunzoso> it just showed me bunch of files in the usr folder
[01:02] <moi> ok, so it looks like it was well installed :(
[01:02] <MasterWolf> i still want to run windows
[01:02] <Datsunzoso> yea looks to be that way
[01:02] <Datsunzoso> but still no video nor any info in about
[01:03] <moi> MasterWolf: no problem, ubuntu doesn't remove your windows by default !
[01:03] <MasterWolf> dose Kubuntu
[01:03] <Datsunzoso> wierd
[01:04] <moi> but in computing, 100% succes doesn't exist, so I suggest you, as in any other os installation, to save (burn) your important datas (even if I never damages anything installing linux)
[01:04] <moi> Datsunzoso: which version of ubuntu / firefox / mplayer plug-in do you have ?
[01:06] <MasterWolf> dose Kubuntu remove windows
[01:06] <Datsunzoso> firefox : 1.5.0.1       mplayer : idk            kubuntu : 5.10
[01:06] <Red_Herring> wow
[01:06] <moi> MasterWolf: no
[01:06] <Red_Herring> ok, the mplayer plugin is for 1.0.7
[01:06] <moi> MasterWolf: but if you doesn't have enough free space (I mean NON PARTITIONNED space) the installation suimply fail
[01:07] <MasterWolf> how much do i need
[01:07] <Viper550> Hello, the Dapper Kubuntu art looks quite ugly...
[01:07] <Datsunzoso> ?
[01:07] <Red_Herring> Viper550: aggreed
[01:07] <moi> MasterWolf: I don't know, I think 2 Go is ok to install some software and data
[01:07] <Red_Herring> on the other hand, the dapper Ubuntu art looks AMAZING
[01:08] <Red_Herring> if you set orange --> blue
[01:08] <AnObfuscator> How do I take a screenshot in Kubuntu?
[01:08] <Viper550> I even sent a rant to ubuntu-art mailing list!
[01:08] <Red_Herring> AnObfuscator: ksnapshot
[01:08] <Viper550> kmenu>graphics>Screen Capture Program (ksnapshot)
[01:08] <AnObfuscator> Redherring: thanks
[01:08] <moi> 4, 5, 6 go...
[01:08] <AnObfuscator> viper: thanks
[01:08] <Viper550> You welcome, well that's how it is on KDE on Ubuntu...
[01:09] <Red_Herring> im going back to GNOME today
[01:09] <Viper550> My new idea is to make Kubuntu orange as well with a simliar layout to Gnome on Ubuntu and Ubuntulooks
[01:10] <Viper550> Even though it came out first, the Polyester theme looks alot like Ubuntulooks.
[01:12] <Viper550> Want an excerpt from my rant?
[01:13] <Viper550> anyone?
[01:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Viper550: If you don't like the way it looks, you can change it.
[01:14] <Viper550> I know that...
[01:14] <Viper550> And I don't even use Kubuntu...but I am still concerned
[01:14] <Viper550> Just like how people are concerned about the high usage of "The N word" on the Adult Swim show "The Boondocks"
[01:15] <Viper550> But, some of the protestors (like me) don't even watch it!
[01:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> BRB
[01:18] <AngryBacon> why would you want to give KDE a similar layout to gnome
[01:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, back
[01:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Lol, I dunno
[01:21] <MasterWolf> later
[01:21] <Viper550> FoX desktop does that...
[01:23] <Viper550> http://www.foxlinux.org/uploads/photos/107.jpg
[01:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wow, looks like GNOME. ;)
[01:24] <AngryBacon> but why
[01:24] <AngryBacon> if you want gnome
[01:24] <AngryBacon> get gnome
[01:24] <Viper550> I have Gnome
[01:25] <AngryBacon> good for you, don't impose that layout on kubuntu users
[01:25] <Viper550> I said I use KDE 3.5 on Ubuntu
[01:25] <AngryBacon> oh
[01:25] <AngryBacon> didn't see that
[01:25] <AngryBacon> and you just said you have gnome
[01:26] <Viper550> http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5672/kubuntudapper6vw.jpg
[01:27] <Viper550> I primarly use KDE, but keep Gnome as secondary for compatability purposes
[01:27] <Viper550> I use many window managers!
[01:27] <AngryBacon> are you any good with running apps on wine, no one is one the wine channel
[01:28] <bouncing> Does dapper kubuntu have a really simple wrapper for ipchains/whatnot that'll setup a firewall?
[01:28] <bouncing> I seem to remember that, but I can't find it.
[01:28] <AngryBacon> firestarter, if i recall
[01:28] <bouncing> I think firestarter's universe, so it scared me.
[01:28] <AngryBacon> oh
[01:28] <ryanakca> umm... Angry Bacon.. what channel are you on?
[01:28] <bouncing> actually I tried it and it didn't work.
[01:29] <ryanakca> are you trying #wine?
[01:29] <AngryBacon> i tried #winehq
[01:29] <AngryBacon> which is the correct channel
[01:29] <bouncing> I also tried kmyfirewall and it gave me weird errors.
[01:29] <Viper550> The link is http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:29] <ryanakca> yeah
[01:29] <AngryBacon> i have wine
[01:29] <Viper550> If you want to install Wine on Ubuntu...
[01:29] <ryanakca> theres 118 people on #winehq
[01:29] <simian> does anyone else find that kaudiocreater just sits there and does nothing once click rip? (dapper)
[01:29] <bouncing> Also, on dapper... I think automounting for my usb hard drive went away... :/
[01:31] <Viper550> I'm just protecting people from ugly desktops!
[01:31] <Viper550> The reason many people were turned away by Ubuntu is because of its default Brown.
[01:31] <Viper550> But now, it's orange! Orange is tolerable.
[01:32] <Viper550> Purple is kinda like Brown color wise, not many people would like it as default
[01:32] <simian> lol
[01:33] <Viper550> It's also consistancy
[01:33] <Viper550> Consistancy=EXCELLENT!!!
[01:33] <general> yes!
[01:34] <Viper550> Who wants Kubuntu in a more tolerable color?
[01:34] <ryanakca> Viper550: yes, ubuntu was... too... dark...
[01:34] <ryanakca> Viper550: Kubuntu has a very tolerable blue :)
[01:34] <Viper550> But the new Orange looks much better, and I even got it to work on Breezy!
[01:34] <Dan200> kubuntu is blue, i like it :s
[01:35] <Viper550> And of course, Blue is also good because it's the KDE color
[01:35] <general> the blue is too light
[01:35] <ryanakca> yeah
[01:35] <Viper550> But, this shift to Purple is still a bad thing!
[01:35] <bouncing> dapper has a nice qt-gtk thing... my gtk apps look very KDE now.
[01:35] <Dan200> purple? are there screenshots of it?
[01:35] <ryanakca> I like the green I set up... polyester/polymer or something like that...
[01:35] <Viper550> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=594&slide=3&title=kubuntu+6.04+flight+5+screenshots
[01:36] <Viper550> And the new wallpaper= :(
[01:36] <general> this one is nice
[01:36] <Viper550> If you really wanted to do something, use a different wallpaper, style and metacity
[01:36] <Dan200> eugh
[01:37] <Viper550> Suse2, Polyester, and something other than those bubbles would look better
[01:38] <simian> suse desktops do look well polished
[01:38] <Viper550> Yes, very professional indeed.
[01:38] <Viper550> Their bootsplash is even consistant, and they don't worry about the "ohh, the framebuffer can makes things broken"
[01:39] <simian> i'm just not that keen on yast2
[01:39] <Viper550> ...phobia thing that Ubuntu does
[01:39] <simian> their boot splash is cool
[01:39] <Viper550> Yes it is! Nice and blue!
[01:40] <Viper550> You use Cogeco cable too Farous?
[01:41] <Viper550> If you wanted better colors, just try the colors off the cake on the Kubuntu homepage.
[01:41] <ryanakca> just a sec, I'm making a screenshot of my setup...
[01:41] <Viper550> Heck, a cyan would look better...wait that is the cake color!
[01:43] <Viper550> Ubuntulooks looks nice in Cyan actually
[01:43] <Hobbsee> Viper550: ooh, screenie?
[01:45] <Viper550> No, I was just experimenting with this and that, cyan!
[01:45] <farous> anyone know why with the latest updates my system became irratic and unstable? talking about breezy here? for example w, who are giving me problams. Also dual head xinerama started to give me problams were half the screen was not displayed last time i gave a presentation
[01:46] <ryanakca> http://24.226.20.171/sreenshot.png
[01:47] <ryanakca> now that is my setup... I find it much nicer than the default blue... and I found an awesome icon set...
[01:48] <simian> ryanakca: that's nice...what icon set is that?
[01:48] <ryanakca> umm... just a sec... I forget...
[01:48] <ryanakca> simian: kNeu theme
[01:49] <simian> i'll have to try that
[01:49] <simian> ryanakca: your time looks cool
[01:50] <ryanakca> simian: ty, you can get the icons here: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Icons/kNeu-5497.shtml
[01:51] <ryanakca> simian: for the clock "sudo apt-get install styleclock"
[01:51] <simian> ryanakca: thanks
[01:52] <ryanakca> simian: just add it as an applet, and that theme/look is the centurion theme (it comes in the default apt package)
[01:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://serv2.imagehigh.com/files/ih000001/7866_snapshot4.jpg <--- There's mine :)
[01:57] <ryanakca> what's kubuntu's slogan?
[01:57] <simian> nice silver
[01:58] <Kyral> ryanakca, same as Ubuntu's
[01:58] <ryanakca> yes, very nice... I think I'd get tired of it after a while though... but still, very nice
[01:58] <ryanakca> Kyral: ty
[01:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Thanks. :)
[01:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's very clean - which is why I like it.
[01:58] <simian> got to go to bed
[01:58] <Dan200> supertux? :/
[01:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> G'night.
[01:58] <simian> night all
[01:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[01:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes
[02:29] <Jambon> is there a way to have konqeror close tabs on middle click?
[02:31] <nico8481> anyone uses the latest kubuntu and has an AC/DC CD to test something?
[02:32] <nico8481> I think there's a bug in the way KDE (or whatever) handles results from freedb... I'd like to check if it's been fixed in the latest versions...
[02:35] <nico8481> (AC/DC or any band with a "/" in its name)
[02:36] <arat> hey
[02:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> hello
[02:36] <arat> sup?
[02:37] <arat> i want knoppix std
[02:37] <arat> where can i get it
[02:37] <aleksander> jeeeeeeez hellota people
[02:37] <Red_Herring> std?
[02:37] <arat> ?
[02:37] <arat> well my firend has it and it has hacking tools
[02:37] <arat> LOL
[02:37] <Red_Herring> i suggest WHAX
[02:38] <arat> WHAX?
[02:38] <Red_Herring> its a livecd that has plenty of hacking tools
[02:38] <arat> LOL
[02:39] <Red_Herring> hrm, i think the world is infected with LOLitis
[02:39] <aleksander> anyone knows about why amule rejects connections to servers
[02:39] <aleksander> ?
[02:39] <Red_Herring> dapper?
[02:40] <Red_Herring> i dunno, i was just trying it
[02:40] <aleksander> yes
[02:40] <Red_Herring> it says something like "cannot access file /home/"
[02:40] <aleksander> my amule works fine
[02:40] <Red_Herring> no
[02:40] <Red_Herring> in the corner
[02:40] <Jambon> how do i make konqeror close tabs on middle click?
[02:40] <aleksander> it's not that
[02:40] <Red_Herring> it works fine other than that
[02:40] <Red_Herring> when you get the server list?
[02:41] <aleksander> my own amule works fine, but
[02:41] <aleksander> i'vej just installed fresh dapper on my girlfrind's box
[02:41] <Red_Herring> w00t
[02:41] <Red_Herring> congrats
[02:42] <aleksander> and amule won't connect to servers
[02:42] <aleksander> ;<
[02:42] <arat> where can i get WHAX
[02:42] <Red_Herring> distrowatch.com has a nice list
[02:43] <aleksander> can be sth with iptables, or what should i check?
[02:43] <aleksander> i got the same server.met which works fine with my box
[02:43] <Red_Herring> im not sure
[02:44] <Jambon> anyone? konqueror tabs?
[02:44] <aleksander> i mean the same server.met
[02:45] <aleksander> the default gruk.org is empty or what?
[02:51] <evox> Hello
[02:51] <evox> I need help on Themes for KDE
[02:57] <evox> Can I get some help?
[02:57] <evox> With the Themes?
[02:58] <patrix> sup evox
[02:58] <patrix> I rmeember you from a few days ago
[02:59] <evox> Yo
[02:59] <patrix> problem with k themes?
[02:59] <evox> I need help finding some themes
[02:59] <evox> Is there any more sites other than Kde-look.org
[02:59] <evox> and what Do I need to install em?
[02:59] <patrix> themes.org ?
[02:59] <patrix> most ppl who make themes send em up to kde-look anyway
[03:00] <evox> Because I have a Dark abstract wallpaper and it looks awkward with a Bright ass Panel
[03:00] <patrix> hehe
[03:00] <patrix> idneed
[03:00] <patrix> so make your panel darker, no need for themes
[03:00] <evox> How?
[03:01] <patrix> hmm I'm not logged into KDE right now, ubt I believe you can right0click the panel, panel config, and somewhere in there select colors
[03:01] <patrix> lemme xnest into it
[03:01] <Jambon> patrix: still playing with GNOME?
[03:01] <patrix> Jambon, hehe yes
[03:01] <patrix> Jambon, I actually like it ;)
[03:01] <patrix> amarok's still here with me though, rhythmbox has nothing on it!
[03:02] <Jambon> true dat
[03:02] <Jambon> i'm trying out kde
[03:02] <Jambon> so we even out
[03:02] <Jambon> i'm actually liking it
[03:02] <patrix> yeah
[03:02] <Jambon> konqueror is really fast
[03:02] <patrix> well for me I guess it's just the human instinct for change
[03:02] <patrix> been a KDE-only user for about 2 years
[03:03] <Jambon> although i wish i could get it to close tabs on middle click
[03:03] <patrix> configure it ;)
[03:03] <patrix> I think you can. never tried
[03:03] <patrix> mouse gestures are nice though
[03:03] <Jambon> i can't find it
[03:03] <Jambon> but 2 years is longer than me for anything
[03:03] <Jambon> in the last month or so, i've had quite a journdy
[03:03] <patrix> evox, well for the panel color.. you can set a bg image, make it transparent, or make it match your theme's color.. so then you can set your colors in the settings -> appearance -> color
[03:04] <Jambon> journey: Ubuntu Breezy ->elive 0.3 -> elive 0.4 -> freebsd 6.1 -> ubuntu dapper ->kubuntu dapper
[03:04] <Jambon> all in about 5 weeks
[03:05] <patrix> evox, to install themes, it depends on what you're trying to install... to install a .ktheme file, you need to launch kcontrol (not the System Settings app) and go to theme manager and install it from there
[03:05] <evox> kk thanks
[03:05] <patrix> Jambon, hehe nice. I'm actually a hardcore FreeBSD-er since a year ago
[03:05] <patrix> Jambon, but poor multimedia support (I wanted to use skype or gizmo for VOIP) led me back to Linux
[03:05] <patrix> so I decided, 2 weeks ago, let's try kubuntu
[03:05] <patrix> and I loved it;)
[03:06] <Jambon> i couldn't stand freebsd
[03:07] <patrix> heh
[03:07] <Jambon> you have to configure EVERYTHING
[03:07] <patrix> YES
[03:07] <patrix> no not true
[03:07] <patrix> NetBSd you have to configure even more
[03:07] <patrix> FreeBSd was a good balance
[03:07] <Jambon> ouch
[03:07] <Red_Herring> no, Gentoo is onne of the worst
[03:07] <Jambon> well seeing as sound didn't work for me
[03:07] <patrix> still have it on my server, where it belongs
[03:07] <Jambon> amonst other things
[03:07] <Red_Herring> i got debian on my server, where it will stay
[03:07] <Jambon> compiling programs takes ages
[03:07] <patrix> I actually switched to BSD because I had a terrible debian accident on my webserver
[03:07] <Red_Herring> yea
[03:08] <patrix> convinced me the BSD way of seperating "Base system" and "ports (applcications)" is a freakin good design decision
[03:08] <evox> Wow..........This transparency thing goes great
[03:09] <patrix> :D
[03:09] <evox> Thanks again patrix
[03:09] <Red_Herring> XGL ownz
[03:09] <patrix> no probm evox
[03:09] <Red_Herring> i cant stand it any other way now
[03:09] <patrix> Red_Herring, so you're on Dapper eh. i'm still on breezy
[03:09] <Red_Herring> WOBBLY WINDOWS!
[03:09] <patrix> lol!
[03:09] <Red_Herring> patrix: yup!
[03:09] <evox> Once again Bill gates should die.....Linux is free and better......
[03:09] <patrix> Red_Herring, did you install from a dapper flight CD, or upgrade from breezy?
[03:10] <Red_Herring> dapper flight cd
[03:10] <patrix> ah ok
[03:10] <patrix> well i'll wait, I'm patient ;)
[03:10] <Red_Herring> im keeping my breezy partition until dapper goes stable
[03:12] <luansheng> this is the first time that i use the kubuntu
[03:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> congrats
[03:12] <luansheng> thanks
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[03:13] <luansheng> hehe
[03:13] <luansheng> can i ask you a question?
[03:13] <Red_Herring> btw the people at #kubuntu are the FRIENDLYEST and CLeanest of all chatrooms out there
[03:13] <Red_Herring> right?
[03:13] <Red_Herring> ;-)
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Why...
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Of course!
[03:14] <luansheng> can kubuntu give me a fast speed for open window?
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Eh?
[03:15] <luansheng> i feel some slow when i open application window in kde
[03:15] <Red_Herring> yea, i know what you mean
[03:15] <Red_Herring> change the theme to one thats not so fancy
[03:15] <luansheng> which theme?
[03:16] <Red_Herring> i dunno, your choice
[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> System Settings > Appearence > Window Decorations (or something like that)
[03:16] <luansheng> can you suggest me?
[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> I use "web"
[03:16] <Red_Herring> hrm, try some out
[03:16] <Red_Herring> anything but baghira
[03:16] <luansheng> ok
[03:16] <Red_Herring> wow that one is slow
[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:17] <luansheng> thanks for your suggestion!
[03:17] <Red_Herring> thats what we are here for!
[03:17] <Red_Herring> that and tricking my friends into thinking there are sexual predators out to get them
[03:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Okaaaaaaaaay
[03:18] <Red_Herring> (thanks Snake|ONAIR)
[03:18] <Red_Herring> :-P
[03:18] <Snake|ONAIR> Red_Herring: huh whats up?
[03:18] <Snake|ONAIR> Oh
[03:18] <Snake|ONAIR> :)
[03:18] <Red_Herring> nothin, just thankign you
[03:18] <Snake|ONAIR> Red_Herring: wanna tune into my music?
[03:18] <Red_Herring> sure
[03:18] <Red_Herring> why not?
[03:18] <Snake|ONAIR> Red_Herring: http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net (your gonna fill up the server!)
[03:19] <Red_Herring> ah, dyndns?
[03:19] <Snake|ONAIR> Red_Herring: Its a irish speical right now...itll be over in a bit
[03:19] <Snake|ONAIR> Of course
[03:19] <Red_Herring> i have a .selfip.com one
[03:19] <Red_Herring> rj.selfip.com
[03:28] <evox> Yo I need more help
[03:28] <evox> I need help on installing my Flash Plugin
[03:29] <Red_Herring> ever try easyubuntu?
[03:29] <Red_Herring> !easyubuntu
[03:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[03:29] <patrix> hey evox
[03:29] <evox> Yo
[03:29] <patrix> no
[03:29] <evox> I have the plug in
[03:29] <patrix> easyubuntu doesn't work quite well in kubuntu
[03:29] <patrix> from my experience anywya
[03:29] <evox> What directory to I place it in?
[03:29] <evox> All I need to to is paste it and Im done
[03:29] <evox> What Do I paste it in?
[03:29] <patrix> I've installed the package flashplayer-mozilla
[03:29] <Red_Herring> use easyubuntu
[03:29] <patrix> and that took care of it all for me
[03:30] <Red_Herring> dont bother with the officall thing
[03:30] <patrix> Red_Herring, easyubuntu couldn't modify my sources.list properly and required some futzing around, so I personally cant' recommend it
[03:30] <Red_Herring> yea
[03:30] <patrix> but I knew enough about apt and python to read its source code and figure out what it di dand do it manually
[03:30] <Red_Herring> but it beats automatix
[03:30] <patrix> nothing beats knowing what you're doing ;)
[03:30] <evox> any idea on where I paste it?
[03:31] <patrix> evox, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[03:31] <patrix> don't bother with the official flash package, this wil install it at the right places
[03:31] <patrix> you might have to enable some extra apt repositories in order to get that package, evox, and we cna help you with doing that :)
[03:32] <evox> Ive already Enabled them to get the GStreamer package
[03:32] <evox> Oh wait........It cant find the package....
[03:32] <evox> I have it already downloaded I just need to know where to place the files
[03:33] <patrix> you need to enable to multiverse repos
[03:33] <evox> I think they are enabled
[03:33] <patrix> maybe you have enabled universe
[03:33] <patrix> you need multiverse too :)
[03:33] <patrix> it's a big big big universe out there ;)
[03:33] <evox> .........How Do I enable them?
[03:33] <Red_Herring> !repos
[03:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:34] <evox> Robotgeek helped me enable some repositories
[03:34] <patrix> evox: the way I did it (which didn't exactly match the ionstructions I saw somewhere) was to add "multiverse" after universe in any line that has universe
[03:34] <patrix> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe  multiverse
[03:34] <patrix> yes that was basically it
[03:34] <evox> Whats that?
[03:35] <patrix> open /etc/apt/sources.list  (with sudo kate  or whatever you like to use to edit files)
[03:35] <evox> ok
[03:35] <patrix> and find the line that looks similar to the line above
[03:35] <patrix> I'm assuming yo're on Breezy, not Dapper
[03:35] <evox> yea its breezy
[03:35] <patrix> k
[03:36] <patrix> me too ;)
[03:36] <patrix> so find that line with the unverse repo
[03:36] <patrix> and add multiverse at the end
[03:37] <patrix> got it, evox?
[03:38] <evox> One of them already says this "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse "
[03:38] <patrix> that's the backports
[03:38] <evox> and the other is the same with just Univers
[03:39] <patrix> you're looking for a line liek the one I pasted above
[03:39] <patrix> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe  multiverse
[03:39] <patrix> see, I added multiverse at the end
[03:39] <evox> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[03:39] <evox> ?
[03:39] <patrix> those are security updates
[03:39] <patrix> but you might as well enable that one too
[03:40] <patrix> remove the # at the beginning, and add multiverse at the end
[03:40] <evox> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[03:40] <evox> That it?
[03:40] <patrix> yeah
[03:40] <evox> just put Multiverse at the end?
[03:40] <patrix> remove the # at the beginning and add multiverse ( all in small letters) at the end
[03:41] <evox> BAH!! it says I dont have  write abilitys or someshit
[03:41] <patrix> you didn't edit it using sudo ;)
[03:41] <patrix> like
[03:41] <evox> Im using Kate
[03:41] <patrix> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:41] <sniff> is someone able to please tell me how to use the webshortcuts in konqueror effectively?
[03:41] <Red_Herring> no, use kdesu
[03:41] <Red_Herring> not sudo
[03:41] <sniff> kdesu
[03:41] <patrix> same thing
[03:41] <Red_Herring> no
[03:41] <sniff> don't sudo kde apps
[03:42] <Red_Herring> not at all
[03:42] <patrix> I do it all the time
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well...don't. :P
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> I used to...I have reformed. ;)
[03:42] <patrix> ok I'm gonna sudo all my gnome apps then! :P :P :P
[03:42] <sniff> anyway Kate is sh*t, use   kdesu kwrite ???
[03:42] <evox> Still says I dont have write acess
[03:42] <patrix> sniff, kwrite's not installed by default
[03:42] <sniff> it is for me
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes it is, but it's not placed in the K Menu
[03:43] <sniff> just not in the menu
[03:43] <evox> Still says I dont have write acess
[03:43] <patrix> oh ok sniff ;)
[03:43] <patrix> evox, how did you launch it?
[03:43] <sniff> so what about these webshortcuts then?
[03:43] <evox> I went through the Kmenu
[03:43] <patrix> argh
[03:43] <evox> then tried that Konsole method
[03:43] <patrix> yes
[03:43] <patrix> in konsole:
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> evox: Exit Kate/KWrite
[03:44] <patrix> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <fatejudger> where is amarok-gstreamer for Dapper?
[03:44] <fatejudger> did it just disappear?
[03:44] <sniff> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <sniff> kate is a shambles imho
[03:44] <Red_Herring> lol
[03:44] <Red_Herring> a bit
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yup
[03:45] <patrix> anything's better than gedit that still can't save files over network connections like all kde apps can ;)
[03:45] <sniff> i don't see why they include kate in the menu but not kwrite
[03:45] <fatejudger> kate is awesome
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> patrix: I use vi over gedit :P
[03:45] <patrix> they should include vim and emacs and nothing else! ;)
[03:45] <patrix> CheeseBurgerMan, I use vim all the time too man
[03:45] <sniff> patrix: that's because KDE has the kio slaves
[03:45] <patrix> <--- Linux user since 1996
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> <--- Linux user since 2006 :P
[03:45] <Red_Herring> nice
[03:45] <patrix> ;)
[03:45] <Red_Herring> linux user since 2005
[03:45] <Red_Herring> january
[03:45] <sniff> linux since last month
[03:46] <fatejudger> 2003
[03:46] <fatejudger> on and off though
[03:46] <Red_Herring> first distro was mandrakelinux
[03:46] <sniff> !webshortcuts
[03:46] <ubotu> sniff: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:46] <patrix> I was in #linux in 1996 for the first time, back when this place was openprojects.net and not freenode.net, and I got a marriage proposal within seconds, cause some guy mistook my real name (Patrice) as a girl's name, not a guy's name
[03:46] <sniff> balls
[03:46] <Red_Herring> then i saw kubuntu
[03:46] <evox> Ok now what?
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:46] <Red_Herring> used it ever since
[03:46] <evox> Ok now what?
[03:46] <patrix> evox, you made all the hcanges?
[03:46] <patrix> including removing the # at the beginning of the important lines?
[03:46] <evox> Just to that one line
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> I started with Ubuntu, disliked GNOME, and installed Kubuntu
[03:46] <evox> yes
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[03:47] <evox> Just to that one line
[03:47] <evox> yes
[03:47] <patrix> evox: which line exactly?
[03:47] <evox> Oh hell......You had to ask me after i close kate
[03:47] <patrix> ;)
[03:47] <patrix> it's for a good cause.. I wanna make sure everytying's right in order to avoid trouble ;)
[03:48] <evox> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe  multiverse
[03:48] <patrix> good!
[03:48] <patrix> ok
[03:48] <evox> Now what?
[03:48] <patrix> now in the konsole, type:
[03:48] <patrix> sudo apt-get install
[03:49] <patrix> er
[03:49] <patrix> er
[03:49] <patrix> er
[03:49] <patrix> erwiat
[03:49] <patrix> lol
[03:49] <patrix> sudo apt-get update
[03:49] <patrix> that's better
[03:49] <evox> Then try that Install thingy?
[03:49] <patrix> then once that's done,
[03:50] <patrix> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla  (or was it mozilla-flashplugin ? something like that, scroll up to see)
[03:50] <sniff> !mozilla-flashplayer
[03:50] <ubotu> sniff: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:50] <sniff> no, it's not
[03:50] <patrix> lol
[03:51] <patrix> well I have flashplayer-mozilla  installed here
[03:51] <evox> Its installing
[03:51] <patrix> good :D
[03:51] <patrix> now I can take a break and bbiab
[03:51] <evox> lol ok
[03:58] <Snake|ONAIR> Red_Herring: is that you tuned in?
[03:58] <Red_Herring> no... im having computer troubles
[03:58] <Red_Herring> sorry
[03:58] <Snake|ONAIR> Hmm
[03:58] <Snake|ONAIR> it says 4 are connected
[03:58] <Snake|ONAIR> but who
[03:58] <systemofadown> quick question: is kubuntu  missing kwrited?
[03:58] <Red_Herring> kwrited?
[03:58] <Snake|ONAIR> systemofadown: yulp it appears so
[03:59] <systemofadown> Snake|ONAIR:  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah dammit
[03:59] <systemofadown> Snake|ONAIR: I kinda need it
[03:59] <Snake|ONAIR> systemofadown: sudo apt-get install kwrited ?
[03:59] <Snake|ONAIR> wtf?
[04:00] <systemofadown> Snake|ONAIR:  no packages
[04:00] <Snake|ONAIR> systemofadown: what kind of program is it!? Its not even in the repos...
[04:00] <admrl> systemofadown: i dont see it
[04:00] <Snake|ONAIR> systemofadown: Perhaps try kate?
[04:01] <systemofadown> you know i mean kwrited and not kwrite?
[04:01] <Snake|ONAIR> Im not exactly sure what kwrited is.. :(
[04:01] <admrl> systemofadown: he asked what kind of program it is
[04:02] <systemofadown> it displays system wide broadcast messages?
[04:02] <Snake|ONAIR> Ah
[04:02] <Snake|ONAIR> hmm
[04:02] <systemofadown> . not ?
[04:02] <Snake|ONAIR> Im not really sure :(
[04:02] <Snake|ONAIR> sorry man
[04:02] <Snake|ONAIR> Its ays its a daemon..so it might have it
[04:05] <neoncode> How do i burn a .cdr CD image?
[04:07] <patrix> evox: so.. it workeD?
[04:09] <admrl> neoncode: k3b..?
[04:10] <neoncode> admrl: k3b carn't recognise the file as a valid CD image...
[04:10] <admrl> oh idk
[04:11] <_andrew> Hi, I'm looking for mplayer binaries for kubuntu, where do I look ( or ask ) ?
[04:11] <neoncode> _andrew: Try the repos?
[04:12] <_andrew> I'm using standard source list.  Nothing about mplayer in it.
[04:12] <neoncode> _andrew: You have to enable universe and multiverse repos
[04:13] <_andrew> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse ?
[04:15] <Hobbsee_> LOAD -e evilop
[04:15] <neoncode> That should work... have you updated the list?
[04:15] <patrix> hm
[04:15] <patrix> those are the backpots
[04:15] <patrix> I'd use breezy itself, not the backports.. (read the comments in front of each line!! :P  )
[04:15] <Hobbsee_> LOAD -e evilop.sh
[04:15] <Hobbsee> hmm
[04:23] <_andrew> thanks guys - I have mplayer up and running.  Pleasure doing business with you :-)
[04:31] <jonathon> hello
[04:31] <jonathon> Im having trouble with ndiswrapper ever since i installed drapper
[04:31] <jonathon> is this a common complaint/
[04:31] <Red_Herring> really?
[04:31] <Red_Herring> yes
[04:31] <Red_Herring> but its MUCH better than ndiswrapper was a year ago
[04:32] <jonathon> i dont think its ndiswrapper i think its the way kubuntu identified my card in the installation
[04:32] <jonathon> usually its wlan0 now its eth0
[04:32] <Red_Herring> no
[04:32] <Red_Herring> that means nothing
[04:32] <jonathon> heck kubuntu doesnt usually even find my card...
[04:32] <jonathon> ok
[04:32] <jonathon> must be something else
[04:33] <jonathon> i had ndiswrapper running flawlessly in 5.04 and 5.10...
[04:33] <Red_Herring> WHOAH!
[04:33] <Hobbsee> jonathon: yes it doesnt work properly
[04:33] <Red_Herring> im getting a kernel panic!
[04:33] <Red_Herring> aaaaaaaahhhh
[04:33] <neoncode> How do I simulate burns with cdrecord
[04:33] <Hobbsee> compile the lastest version from the ndiswrapper site
[04:34] <Red_Herring> its teh same for everyhing im trying!
[04:34] <Hobbsee> jonathon: and yes, you have to do it for most kernel updates, i'm afraid.  YMMV, but that's what i've found
[04:34] <Red_Herring> anyone know why an unlocked 2600+ would create a kernel panic?
[04:35] <jonathon> bugger me
[04:36] <neoncode> What exacly *is* a kernel panic anyway?
[04:37] <Red_Herring> ummm
[04:37] <Red_Herring> when i boot, the kernel freaks out
[04:37] <Red_Herring> and just shuts down
[04:37] <Red_Herring> BSOD for all the windows people out there
[04:38] <Hobbsee> jonathon: it's not *that* hard, it seems - it doesnt take that logn
[04:38] <jonathon> hobbsee the problem is im new to linux i have no idea what i gotta do now so i need to find some 'reading' material
[04:38] <Red_Herring> !kernel panic
[04:38] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring
[04:39] <Hobbsee> !ndiswrapper
[04:39] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:39] <Hobbsee> jonathon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-2c7bea8535ee4a5b38d5be23825128a0ca1a932e
[04:56] <_root> halo
[04:56] <joeshmo> man
[04:56] <joeshmo> this sucks
[04:56] <joeshmo> i can never get this to work...
[04:56] <joeshmo> im a nooblet
[04:56] <joeshmo> lol
[04:57] <Dasnipa`> "this" is pretty darn specific
[05:03] <nuky> where is the login shell when you start kubuntu?
[05:05] <nuky> as in, i've entered a command in my .bash_profile that needs me to enter a password. i thought this ran at the login shell.. but it never prompts me for the password.. also i entered an echo statement in it to see when it would be echoed but it never was!
[05:05] <Teknoenie> evening all
[05:06] <nuky> Teknoenie: hi, can you help me?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> nuky: it's usually done in kdm isnt it?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> and are you talking about it needing root privelages, or what?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> !root
[05:06] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:07] <Teknoenie> nuky: what's wrong?
[05:07] <frank23> nuky: alt-ctrl-f1 will get you a login shell. shells that you open after that are not login shells right? I forget how this works....
[05:08] <nuky> Hobbsee: i doubt i need root provileges as i can run the same command from the terminal without needing sudo.. i tried to login from the prompt and then it asks for the password but not when login through the gui box at boot up..
[05:09] <Hobbsee> does the user that you were trying to put in at the login shell actually have a password?
[05:09] <Hobbsee> and have you modified the kdmrc file at all?
[05:11] <nuky> Hobbsee: what i'm trying to do is set up Keychain for ssh-agent. it has to run at every login in and prompt for the rsa passphrase.. but i can't get the passphrase prompt, so it terminates after a timeout instead..
[05:11] <Hobbsee> ewww ok.
[05:12] <Hobbsee> i'm imagining that you'd stick a link into one of the autostart folders, to the script thingo, and force it to open in a terminal
[05:14] <nuky> Hobbsee: hmm i didn't think to make it open a seperate terminal from the login shell.. i know the code gets excuted as some variables are set, i just can't see it with the normal gui login.. i'll try that now and see.. thanks!
[05:14] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure...but it'd be worth googling
[05:17] <koolatron> hmm..  once upon a time (before a dist-upgrade), K would put an icon for my USB drive on the desktop and mount it automatically when I plugged it in.
[05:18] <koolatron> It don't do that no more.
[05:18] <koolatron> How do I fix that?
[05:18] <Linux_newbie> Hey guys, just your regular Linux newbie requiring some help
[05:18] <Teknoenie> wrong channel :)
[05:18] <Teknoenie> jk
[05:19] <Linux_newbie> I set up the university source in Adept, and got the support for mp3s
[05:19] <regeya> that?
[05:19] <regeya> what's the university source?
[05:19] <Linux_newbie> In adept
[05:19] <Linux_newbie> Someone told me to turn on university
[05:19] <Dasnipa`> universe source not university
[05:19] <Linux_newbie> to get certain files
[05:20] <Linux_newbie> thats what I meant
[05:20] <koolatron> hehe, yeah.  it's universe.
[05:20] <Linux_newbie> sorry
[05:20] <regeya> oh lol
[05:20] <Linux_newbie> anywhoos
[05:20] <Linux_newbie> my bad
[05:20] <Linux_newbie> but still
[05:20] <Teknoenie> i thought there was a new repo.. hehe
[05:20] <Linux_newbie> I downloaded the required files and installed them
[05:20] <regeya> same here :-)
[05:21] <regeya> AWESOME
[05:21] <Linux_newbie> but in Kaffeine it says my default audio device is inuse so I can't play music
[05:21] <Linux_newbie> I was wondering how to fix this
[05:21] <regeya> now that's up
[05:21] <regeya> d0h
[05:21] <Linux_newbie> Amarok says its playing, but the timer doesn't move and there is no sound coming out of the speakers
[05:22] <Teknoenie> sudo killall -9 artsd
[05:22] <Teknoenie> try again
[05:23] <koolatron> so no idea why my K is no longer detecting that my usb drive has been inserted?
[05:23] <koolatron> I get a kernel message in the log on dmesg
[05:24] <koolatron> and can mount it manually
[05:24] <koolatron> if i had to guess, i'd say that it's not detecting my ipod either
[05:24] <Teknoenie> check your /etc/fstab
[05:24] <koolatron> but i've not tried
[05:24] <koolatron> tek, that stuff isn't managed via fstab afaik
[05:24] <Teknoenie> does it appear in the media window?
[05:24] <koolatron> it doesn't appear at _all_
[05:24] <Linux_newbie> still no luck with amaroK
[05:25] <koolatron> no icon, etc
[05:25] <Linux_newbie> let me try Kaffeine
[05:25] <Teknoenie> system:/media does it appear there?
[05:25] <koolatron> Linux_newbie: make sure that you're using the gstreamer engine under 'engines' in your amaroK config
[05:25] <koolatron> Teknoenie: no
[05:25] <Teknoenie> what does dmesg show ya
[05:26] <Linux_newbie> I am on gstreamer
[05:26] <Teknoenie> Linux_newbie: try artsd
[05:26] <Teknoenie> or xine
[05:26] <Linux_newbie> ok, just a second
[05:26] <Teknoenie> for the engine in amarok
[05:27] <koolatron> Teknoenie: dmesg shows that it's been inserted.  i get all the proper kernel messages and stuff.
[05:27] <koolatron> Teknoenie: K just refuses to notice it's there
[05:27] <Teknoenie> probably something with hal
[05:28] <Linux_newbie> Thank you all, I tried artsd and I have it going
[05:28] <koolatron> possibly
[05:29] <Linux_newbie> I love the linux community
[05:29] <Linux_newbie> you are all so helpful
[05:32] <koolatron> how do i figure out whether it's a HAL problem or not?
[05:58] <m5m> Has anyone successfully enabled Amarok 1.4 under Breezy? I see here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-amarok-beta2.php that it requires a new version of taglib.  I'm not sure if I should try or not...
[05:58] <Snake|ONAIR> m5m: Im running it
[05:58] <Snake|ONAIR> m5m: as long as you have the taglib from the repos uninstalled, it all runs fine
[05:59] <robotgeek> Snake|ONAIR: don't forget to tell him the pain you had to go thru?
[05:59] <Red_Herring> anyone here heard of DI?
[05:59] <Snake|ONAIR> robotgeek: My problem was that I didnt have the old taglibs uninstalled
[05:59] <m5m> Snake|ONAIR: great; haha robotgeek...  did you make a deb or you used the dapper one??
[05:59] <Snake|ONAIR> robotgeek: that was the key
[05:59] <robotgeek> Snake|ONAIR: ah, okay. cool.
[06:00] <nexus> anyone use fvwm95
[06:00] <Red_Herring> lol, not anymore
[06:00] <Red_Herring> fluxbox rules now
[06:01] <douglas> Is there any bugs reported of ndiswrapper not working in dapper, I had it workikng just fine in breezy, I did a clean install of flight5 on my laptop and now I can't get my wifi to work even though I've done it a gazillion times. :(
[06:01] <nexus> i did apt-get install fvwm95 . it installed it. when i click on it from the login menus it tries to start the x server and then says it doesn't exist
[06:01] <m5m> so Snake|ONAIR unistnalling taglib doesn't make anything else lose functionality?  is there a newer version of taglib bundled in the 1.4 tarball?
[06:01] <Red_Herring> douglas: really? thats the total opposite with me
[06:01] <Red_Herring> give it time
[06:02] <douglas> Red_Herring: My device is showing up as eth1 instead of wlan0 now and I can't get it to use the interface, iwconfig sees it but nothing else does :(
[06:02] <Snake|ONAIR> m5m: I installed from source, so I complied taglibs1.4 and all that myself
[06:02] <Red_Herring> douglas: try "sudo dhclient eth1"
[06:02] <m5m> Snake|ONAIR: did you make a deb?
[06:03] <Snake|ONAIR> Not an offical one, but checkinstall built me one
[06:03] <douglas> Red_Herring: That would just try to establish a connection with eth1 which ifconfig doesn't see ?
[06:03] <nalioth> m5m: you should use checkinstall for your own usage
[06:03] <douglas> I'll try though
[06:03] <Red_Herring> douglas: if iwconfig sees it but ifconfig doesnt, try "ifup eth1" or "dhclient eth1"
[06:03] <m5m> nalioth: will man checkinstall show me what that means??
[06:03] <Red_Herring> both should do the same thing
[06:04] <douglas> Red_Herring: ok
[06:04] <Snake|ONAIR> !checkinstall
[06:04] <ubotu> hmm... checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[06:04] <m5m> ok thanks Snake|ONAIR
[06:04] <nalioth> m5m: after you install it, run "checkinstall --help"
[06:04] <m5m> got it nalioth, thanks for the info
[06:05] <douglas> Red_Herring: Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[06:05] <Red_Herring> douglas: what i thought, what happens when you try dhclient?
[06:05] <douglas> It tries to connect but it says Network is Down
[06:05] <robotgeek> douglas: try "sudo ifconfig eth0 down"
[06:06] <drumstyx> hi
[06:06] <Red_Herring> *eth1
[06:06] <robotgeek> sudo ifconfig eth1 down && sudo dhclient eth1
[06:06] <douglas> same thing
[06:06] <drumstyx> i just installed kubuntu...and cant figure out how to get my dual screen setup working
[06:07] <robotgeek> drumstyx: xinerama maybe, i am not sure. please search on the wiki
[06:08] <douglas> Red_Herring: Before when my device started getting used the lights would come on, but they're not right now.
[06:08] <Red_Herring> douglas: did you start ubuntu with the card in?
[06:08] <douglas> no
[06:09] <Red_Herring> try that
[06:09] <Red_Herring> it beats lsmod and modprobe
[06:11] <Snake|ONAIR> .....
[06:11] <Snake|ONAIR> o.0
[06:11] <douglas> Red_Herring: What do you mean it beats lsmod and modprobe?
[06:11] <drumstyx> how do i get to xinerama?
[06:11] <m5m> ok Snake|ONAIR I think I understand Checkinstall, do you use /recommend auto-apt as well?
[06:11] <Red_Herring> douglas: i suspect it would work if you loaded the correct modules, a process that takes way too long, and restarting is just easier
[06:11] <drumstyx> im new to linux from windows...so i thought it was in the system settings
[06:11] <Snake|ONAIR> m5m: it never worked for me
[06:11] <drumstyx> but it wasnt
[06:12] <m5m> ah ok
[06:12] <Red_Herring> !xinerama
[06:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[06:12] <nalioth> m5m: auto-apt is somtimes more trouble than it's worth
[06:12] <Snake|ONAIR> nalioth: will they ever fix it? lol
[06:12] <nalioth> m5m: join #kubuntu-offtopic and we'll explain how it works (and vexes)
[06:13] <m5m> ok nalioth Snake|ONAIR thank you;
[06:13] <douglas> Red_Herring: I've done this many times in the past, I wonder why I can't get it now.
[06:13] <Red_Herring> douglas: dapper still has some bugs
[06:13] <Red_Herring> i would wait a bit
[06:13] <douglas> true.
[06:13] <Red_Herring> i mean, i had the same problem with my wireless card when breezy came out
[06:13] <douglas> I'm not going back to breezy though, dapper is too sweet
[06:13] <Red_Herring> well, when it was in beta
[06:13] <douglas> really?
[06:13] <Red_Herring> i opened a bug on it
[06:13] <Red_Herring> adn the next update fixed it
[06:14] <douglas> hmm... perhaps I'll try that.
[06:14] <douglas> I just wonder why I can see the device but not use it?
[06:16] <douglas> I can even set the interface settings like the essid and what not, however I can't do a iwlist eth1 scanning :(
[06:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah, dapper wifi, eh?
[06:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> I couldn't get mine to turn on. :P
[06:17] <Red_Herring> heh
[06:17] <Red_Herring> its funny
[06:17] <Red_Herring> ive had 3 wirelss cards
[06:17] <Red_Herring> the first never worked under linux
[06:17] <Red_Herring> the second only worked a bit
[06:17] <Red_Herring> the 3rd worked well
[06:17] <Red_Herring> now, dapper has all 3 working 100%
[06:18] <nalioth> aint progress grand?
[06:18] <douglas> yay
[06:18] <Red_Herring> sure is
[06:18] <douglas> and no I didn't get it.
[06:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> I went to Control Center > Internet & Network > Network Settings, and tried to turn on dhcp, but it crashed :P
[06:18] <Red_Herring> and its really only ubuntu thats been geting better
[06:19] <Red_Herring> i havent seen ANY of this development in other distros
[06:19] <douglas> unfortunately
[06:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, breezy didn't detect the card - Dapper did :)
[06:19] <Red_Herring> yea
[06:19] <frank23> Red_Herring: is this out of the box?
[06:19] <Red_Herring> yea
[06:19] <frank23> Red_Herring: very nice
[06:20] <Red_Herring> my nice one finally worked w/ ndiswrapper under breezy, but not hoary, i left it in when i booted up dapper, then was confused when i was online
[06:20] <frank23> Red_Herring: lol
[06:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:20] <douglas> Well I'm going to check out some settings and then try rebooting, be back later.
[06:20] <Red_Herring> but then my dad blocked every one of my wireless cards MAC addresses
[06:20] <Red_Herring> so im connected throgh LAN
[06:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:21] <Red_Herring> EAT THAT DAD!
[06:21] <frank23> Red_Herring: oh yeah... did you find a way?
[06:21] <Red_Herring> i gotta wait for a good time to do this, i cant rush
[06:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> Red_Herring: Heh, my dad did that, but he made a typo in the MAC address :P
[06:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> So he TRIED to do it. ;)
[06:21] <Red_Herring> CheeseBurgerMan: thats what i plan on doing ;-)
[06:21] <Dasnipa`> why did he block the MACS
[06:21] <Red_Herring> Dasnipa`: so everyone else in the family but me could get interent
[06:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yup
[06:22] <Dasnipa`> my dad wouldnt know the first thing to do to block me hehe
[06:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:22] <Red_Herring> i contemplated installing the keylogger at school, then decided i didnt want to be that evil
[06:22] <Smeggy> whats the package to grab to get kaffeine to play the majority of things?
[06:22] <Smeggy> it was calle xine-extracodecs or something similar I seem to recall?
[06:23] <Red_Herring> my dad is working on the new WiMAX thing, so he thinks he is all l33t with networking
[06:23] <frank23> Smeggy: that's dapper I think
[06:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> My dad is a software developer. :P
[06:23] <Dasnipa`> i wish my dad was that cool
[06:23] <Smeggy> ah damn
[06:23] <Smeggy> what is it in breezy then?
[06:23] <frank23> since when is being a programmer 'cool'? :)
[06:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:24] <Dasnipa`> i love programming
[06:24] <Red_Herring> thing is, my dad has been faking blocking my internet, because he knows i live on here
[06:24] <frank23> Smeggy: install kaffeine-xine and w32codecs
[06:24] <Red_Herring> but my mom found out
[06:24] <jjs0ah> frank23: exactly what i was thinking. no one thinks i'm cool :(
[06:24] <Smeggy> cheers frank23 :)
[06:24] <Red_Herring> HEY, NERDS ARE COOL!
[06:24] <Red_Herring> besides
[06:24] <Red_Herring> one day we will rule the world!
[06:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> We shall ddos all those who oppose us!
[06:24] <Red_Herring> after i finish this can of mountain dew...
[06:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:25] <Red_Herring> and ow3n this noob
[06:25] <Dasnipa`> and then we will ban all the masculine guys so we get all the hot chicks
[06:25] <Red_Herring> w00t!
[06:25] <Red_Herring> and then we can go to the top of all the mountains (on google earth) and shout "W00t!"
[06:26] <Dasnipa`> since when is there a linux build of google earth?
[06:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> hahahahahah :D
[06:26] <Red_Herring> i think google is working on it
[06:26] <frank23> I don't know.... take a look at how www.google.com/linux is :(
[06:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> But we musn't take over the world before they release it
[06:26] <Dasnipa`> i keep hearing rumors, but given googles turnaround time i would have thought we woulda seen it by now
[06:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> However, we won't wait for it to get out of beta :P
[06:27] <Dasnipa`> maybe on april 1 when google always announces stuff
[06:27] <Red_Herring> its a google rumor, but i think this one was actually confirmed by cedega
[06:27] <frank23> oh it's linux search...  I never got that!
[06:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol,it is :)
[06:27] <Red_Herring> ah yes... night
[06:27] <Red_Herring> the nerds are awakening
[06:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> Although I've never actually used it much - I use the regular search
[06:28] <Red_Herring> watch, as "lol"s and "OMFG"s and "WTF"s fill the air
[06:28] <Red_Herring> or rather "Own3d" and "l33t" and "n00bs"
[06:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'd ever say "Own3d" - every good nerd knows it's "pwnd!"
[06:28] <douglas> Still no workie
[06:29] <Red_Herring> interesting
[06:29] <Red_Herring> bug report?
[06:29] <douglas> Do you think it would change anything if I compiled ndiswrapper myself?
[06:29] <Red_Herring> no
[06:29] <Red_Herring> dont do that
[06:29] <Red_Herring> like i said, the next update might fix it
[06:29] <douglas> why not?
[06:29] <douglas> true but it's nice to have wifi
[06:30] <Red_Herring> sure, but if you compile it yourself, there cannot be any more updates, and there is no geruntee that compiling it will make it work
[06:30] <douglas> I can always do a make uninstall to remove it and use the package again can't I?
[06:31] <Linux_newbie> is there .m4a support for Linux?
[06:31] <Dasnipa`> lol
[06:31] <Linux_newbie> (Itunes default audio)
[06:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[06:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, this is annoying
[06:32] <frank23> Linux_newbie: I'm sure there is through w32codecs maybe
[06:32] <Red_Herring> whoah
[06:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> !kops
[06:32] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fooishbar, haggai, amu, uniq, Mez, seth_k, nikkia, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek
[06:32] <douglas> I found a bug report on my wificard not working with ndis in dapper :)
[06:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> hmm
[06:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah, thank you
[06:33] <robotgeek> wtf
[06:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Whoa
[06:33] <Red_Herring> stop it pagefault_
[06:33] <Red_Herring> just no
[06:33] <Red_Herring> stop!
[06:33] <Dasnipa`> whoa
[06:33] <Red_Herring> robotgeek: can you ban him?
[06:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ahhhhh, thank you
[06:34] <robotgeek> freaking ban type setting
[06:36] <Linux_newbie> So yeah, don't try to run Trillian Pro in WINE
[06:36] <Linux_newbie> it doesn't work
[06:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:36] <Linux_newbie> not without a lot of work
[06:37] <Linux_newbie> Neither does bearshare
[06:37] <robotgeek> Linux_newbie: apollon works well
[06:37] <Red_Herring> aaaaaaaahhhh, newbies! wait, im in the kubuntu helproom
[06:37] <douglas> Red_Herring: So let's say that I just read a thread that says my nick is now supported natively in dapper, would ndiswrapper screw that up?
[06:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Linux_newbie: Try using the native Linux apps - some are as good or better
[06:38] <Red_Herring> douglas: yes
[06:38] <Red_Herring> yes yes yes
[06:39] <Red_Herring> thats what happened with my card
[06:39] <douglas> I have a broadcom bcm4306...
[06:39] <Red_Herring> ndiswrapper should really only be used if you cant find a native one for it
[06:39] <douglas> I just assumed I needed ndis because I always have in the past and installed it really without checking
[06:40] <douglas> how do I get rid of ndisalltogether now, just apt-get remove?
[06:40] <frank23> from now on you should always buy hardware with linux in mind. prevents alot of problem!
[06:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Heh, I was pleasantly surprised with Dapper when I didn't have to turn off hardware acceleration
[06:40] <douglas> agreed
[06:40] <Red_Herring> douglas: whas the chipset?
[06:40] <douglas> bcm4306
[06:40] <Red_Herring> frank23: it SURE does
[06:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> frank23: What??? And not overcome the challenges?
[06:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> ;)
[06:41] <douglas> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=410460
[06:41] <douglas> That would also explain why it's using eth1 as the alias and not wlan0 :)
[06:42] <frank23> CheeseBurgerMan: maybe I *should* buy my hardware from microsoft exclusively!
[06:42] <Red_Herring> douglas: i think the wireless driver is there somewhere, but the kernel hasnt put 2 and 2 together
[06:43] <douglas> Red_Herring: What do you mean, I should wait for another kernel release and try again?
[06:43] <Red_Herring> i looked through modprobe -l
[06:43] <HymnToLife> frank23> well microsoft hardware is actually good imo
[06:43] <Red_Herring> douglas: yes, patience
[06:43] <HymnToLife> I have two microsoft mouses who work very well
[06:43] <Red_Herring> which is at an alltime low in the world
[06:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> frank23: MS makes motherboards?
[06:43] <Red_Herring> HymnToLife: you just said the M word
[06:43] <HymnToLife> lol
[06:43] <Red_Herring> its m$
[06:43] <frank23> HymnToLife: actually I don't know anything about it. just replying to CheeseBurgerMan
[06:44] <douglas> Red_Herring: Wasa
[06:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol, I don't know much about it either
[06:44] <HymnToLife> lol reminds me of a SOuth Park episode
[06:44] <HymnToLife> but that's offtopic I guess
[06:44] <Red_Herring> ok, /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:45] <frank23> HymnToLife: nothing here has been ontopic for a while
[06:45] <HymnToLife> lol
[06:45] <Red_Herring> true
[06:45] <Red_Herring> but at least it pertains to computers
[06:45] <Red_Herring> either that or nerdy subjects
[06:45] <HymnToLife> no Seveas to kick on the slightest offtopic message here I guess lol
[06:45] <Red_Herring> yeah, unlike #gentoo
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[06:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:46] <Red_Herring> in #gentoo, if you paste more than 3 lines, the bot kicks you
[06:46] <Arcanimus> night all
[06:46] <Red_Herring> robotgeek: all you hafta do is COUGH and this room goes dead silent
[06:47] <robotgeek> Red_Herring: yes, i tend to have that effect
[06:47] <m5m> Any ideas why amarok is installed 1.3.7 but doesn't show as installed in adept?
[06:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> No wonder he's so silent - imagine what would happen if he TALKED. :o
[06:47] <Red_Herring> robotgeek: you **are** a geek
[06:48] <Red_Herring> eh, human interaction has its pitfalls
[06:48] <Red_Herring> im a fish! i have 9 lives!
[06:48] <Red_Herring> oh...
[06:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's cats - fish have .5 lives
[06:48] <Red_Herring> wait, i have .5
[06:49] <Red_Herring> dang
[06:49] <Cat_Herring> :-P
[06:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> So now you have 4.5 lives
[06:49] <m5m> Anyone think it's weird that Amarok doesn't show up as installed in Adept?  it came with the install of kubuntu... is something wrong on my system?
[06:49] <Cat_Herring> yea
[06:50] <Cat_Herring> m5m: yea, thats messed up
[06:51] <Dasnipa`> oh oh hotdog
[06:51] <m5m> will I cause myself problems if I install 1.4 on top of my phantom 1.3.7 do you think Red_Herring?
[06:52] <m5m> also has anyone seen a good wiki or tutorial that goes through the ./configure, make, checkinstall process... especially which flags to set on ./configure ?
[06:52] <robotgeek> !compile
[06:52] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[06:52] <m5m> wonderful robotgeek thanks
[06:53] <m5m> I'd been searching the wiki... omitted the obvious search term though
[06:53] <douglas> Red_Herring: Aparently all I need to do is add new firmware to /lib/firmware however I got an object file with the firmware and I'm not sure how to use it, any ideas?
[06:54] <robotgeek> douglas: you need to download fwcutter and extract it
[06:54] <HymnToLife> douglas> isn't there some kind of readme with it ?
[06:54] <douglas> http://bcm43xx.spugna.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=d2a529392ffb4e5f3ebc707fab5ecca0&topic=21;prev_next=next
[06:54] <douglas> no
[06:54] <douglas> what's fwcutter?
[06:54] <douglas> I'll check into it.
[06:54] <robotgeek> douglas: moment
[06:54] <douglas> k
[06:54] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx << check dapper section
[06:55] <douglas> willdo
[06:58] <Dasnipa`> ernas edible diapers... makes their own gravy
[06:59] <douglas> robotgeek: How do I know if I have the right object file?
[06:59] <Red_Herring> is it just me, or has the average iq of the internet gone down since AOL came along
[07:00] <douglas> Red_Herring: It has indeed.
[07:00] <robotgeek> douglas: you mean firware, look in the readme. i am not sure if different devices have different firware
[07:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> The average internet user has an IQ?
[07:00] <Red_Herring> CheeseBurgerMan: i know, itsw hard to imagine
[07:00] <Red_Herring> but after all the LOL OMFG WTF there is a hint of intelligence in some of them
[07:01] <douglas> I think I have the right one.
[07:02] <douglas> Everything went smoothly, but I may save getting it working until tommorow, I'm tired as a poop smith after a hard day of shoveling
[07:02] <douglas> g'night and thanks a lot for the help
[07:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> G'night
[07:18] <m5m> Do I need to uninstall Amarok 1.3.7 i'm compiling 1.4 from source Snake__ ?  it's not showing under adept, though it's locatable in .kde/share/apps/amarok/
[07:19] <Snake__> m5m: I would suggest you do
[07:19] <m5m> Snake__: How would you suggest I do it if sudo apt-get remove returns "Package amarok is not installed, so not removed" ?!
[07:20] <Snake__> Oh
[07:20] <Snake__> Crap.
[07:20] <Snake__> uhh
[07:20] <Snake__> I have no idea >.<
[07:20] <m5m> It came with the kubuntu install that way... invisible in adept...
[07:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> try installing it - see what happens :P
[07:21] <m5m> ok CheeseBurgerMan will try :-P
[07:25] <nalioth> m5m: we should discuss pkg building in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:29] <masterwolf> i was told that kubuntu would  not remove Windows  so how can i boot windows
[07:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> It will install GRUB into your MBR so that you can chose between Kubuntu and Windows
[07:30] <masterwolf> it wont let me choose
[07:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> !grub
[07:31] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:34] <masterwolf> CheeseBurgerMan can you steep me thought it
[07:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> masterwolf: No, I've never actually had a problem with GRUB :P
[07:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Lemme look at the links, I'll see if I can help from those
[07:36] <masterwolf> ok
[07:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK - try booting from your Kubuntu CD, and typing "rescue"
[07:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is the link I'm paraphrasing from, BTW
[07:50] <masterwolf> i did
[08:19] <Tsukihime> !ati
[08:19] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:20] <siimo> what themes do you kubuntu guys use to blend gtk apps into your desktops? e.g. gaim any screenshots?
[08:20] <robotgeek> siimo: kopete > gaim
[08:20] <robotgeek> heh
[08:21] <siimo> ok but back to my question..
[08:21] <robotgeek> siimo: no, i don;t use any gtk apps. sorry
[08:30] <k_uusubatu> does anyone use Ktorrent?
[08:30] <k_uusubatu> is it normal for ktorrent to use 20% of the user resource?
[08:50] <Chodder|Away> You needed to kick me for that?
[08:51] <robotgeek> Chodder|Away: sorry. tired
[08:51] <Chodder|Away> Ya well so am I
[08:51] <robotgeek> Chodder|Away: i apologize
[08:52] <Chodder|Away> Use your powers a bit more responsibly :)
[08:57] <robotgeek> :)
[09:33] <KaoticEvil> how can i test if X is using hardware 3D or software?
[09:38] <robotgeek> KaoticEvil: it is on wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[09:38] <KaoticEvil> laptop?
[09:38] <KaoticEvil> im on a desktop system... will that matter?
[09:41] <KaoticEvil> ah, ok.. i see it now, thanks robotgeek :)
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> hi there
[09:42] <robotgeek> KaoticEvil: remebered the link, but not the command
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> anybody could help me out with recompiling a kernel module?
[09:42] <KaoticEvil> hmmm... it returns No. not good.
[09:42] <KaoticEvil> now to figure out why it doesnt
[09:42] <robotgeek> rysiek|pl: i am going to bed, look on the wiki
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> m'kay
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> darn, there's nothing *in* the wiki about compiling kernel modules o_O
[09:47] <KaoticEvil> damn. my radeon isnt supported by fglrx :|
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> what is you radeon?
[09:47] <KaoticEvil> radeon 7000/ve
[09:48] <KaoticEvil> its supposed to have 3D already... but i think im missing a kernel module or something
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> there is an OpenSource project aiming in writing the drivers for those, IMHO
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> gimme a sec :)
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> KaoticEvil: the official ATI driver only supports Radeons 8500 and higher, but...
[09:51] <KaoticEvil> rysiek|pl: yeah, i know it only supports the 8500+ :P
[09:51] <KaoticEvil> im searching right now...
[09:51] <KaoticEvil> mainly the wiki
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> KaoticEvil: there is an OS project, as I said, I just have to find the link :] 
[09:53] <nico8481> hi
[09:55] <rysiek|pl> hi
[09:57] <rysiek|pl> KaoticEvil: got the bastard! read this: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon#head-2d55b5fb2a9b322fb10e4caddfb3104766cc4159
[09:58] <rysiek|pl> KaoticEvil: scroll down and you'll get: "7800/rv200 and below are supported by the radeon DRI driver"
[09:58] <rysiek|pl> just set up you X server to use the "radeon" driver :)
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> ...sooo, anyone can help me in compiling a kernel module? :)
[10:00] <KaoticEvil> i would, but thats a lil advanced for me...
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> darn, gonna go googlin' in that case :)
[10:01] <KaoticEvil> one problem....
[10:02] <KaoticEvil> when i sudo dpkr-reconfigure xserver-xorg... theres no Radeon driver... only ati
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> try ati then :)
[10:02] <KaoticEvil> thats the one im using...
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> and no 3d support?
[10:02] <KaoticEvil> nope
[10:03] <rysiek|pl> shit... I have no idea in such case :/
[10:05] <KaoticEvil> dammit.
[10:05] <KaoticEvil> brb
[10:25] <Tonio_> helloi
[10:27] <locomorto> Tonio!
[10:31] <nestorm> hi everyone
[10:32] <haluk> hello.. I have installed Kubuntu but the install system didn't ask me to enter root password so, I can not log in as root user now. What can I do? thanks.
[10:35] <jjs0ah> haluk: root user is disabled. use sudo
[10:36] <Blippe> how do i disable root after a debootstrap?
[10:37] <panais> hi :)
[10:38] <Blippe> hi
[10:39] <haluk> jjs0ah: thanks. but I tried "sudo ls" and it asks me root password. but I couldn't be able to set the root password.
[10:39] <jjs0ah> haluk: it is asking your for your users password. that is how sudo works
[10:39] <panais> why doesn't konqueror show my hdd after updating kde to 3.5??
[10:40] <haluk> thanks a lot jjs0ah
[10:41] <jjs0ah> haluk: btw, if you want a regular root user like any other linux distro, you can sudo su -.. and then passwd
[10:41] <panais> will this make me root user?
[10:46] <ganymed> hallo
[10:46] <panais> hi
[10:46] <KaoticEvil> wow.. i think i may bitten off more than i can chew with this one...
[10:49] <vijay> hi, i just connect my digital camera, can any one tell me how to access it??
[10:49] <vijay> connected
[10:49] <nestorm> go to devices:/
[10:49] <ganymed> could it be that kernel 2.6 distros are generally better suited for higher performance machines?
[10:49] <vijay> ok
[10:49] <nico8481> any idea when is the next release of the distro scheduled for ?
[10:49] <nestorm> maybe the icon is a usbkey one
[10:50] <ganymed> april i think
[10:50] <haluk> i want to install opera web browser and i've installed libstdc++ 6.0 but it gave me this error "/usr/lib/opera/8.52-20060201.6/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libs                                                                            tdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[10:51] <rysiek|pl> guys, I'm getting a "Makefile:91: *** environment incomplete: MK_QTDIR=. Stop" error upon compiling an app - what's wrong?
[10:51] <rysiek|pl> wiki has nothing to say about it
[10:51] <ganymed> haluk: did you use the official deb?
[10:51] <haluk> i use kubuntu sarge
[10:52] <ganymed> ok, nobody answers... mmmhhh. are there any benchmarks on the performance of qt?
[10:52] <nestorm> haluk: kubuntu sarge? how is it possible?
[10:52] <ganymed> haluk: sorry, but what is kubuntu sarge
[10:52] <ganymed> ?
[10:52] <jjs0ah> haluk: thats your problem. you didn't use an official deb. sarge is the name of the debian stable distribution. ;)
[10:53] <ganymed> ahhh, sorry, i am a little slow
[10:53] <ganymed> what version of opera is this?
[10:55] <rysiek|pl> guys, what do I need to do to get rid of this error: Makefile:91: *** environment incomplete: MK_QTDIR=. Stop
[10:57] <haluk> opera 8.52
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> ehh, whatever, cu all
[10:59] <ganymed> cu
[10:59] <KaoticEvil> the kernel sources arent on the breezy CD?!
[11:00] <ganymed> i can only figure out that i have opera 8.5. this one works with the official debs from opera.com... just do a dpkg -i ...
[11:02] <ganymed> well, there is an ubuntu package on opera.com... have you tried this one?
[11:03] <savagenator> hello everyone, i'm a new user of kubuntu and i have  a few questions...
[11:04] <savagenator> acually just one: how do i get the screen resolution higher when i didnt set a higher resultion in the setup
[11:05] <ganymed> any ideas why amarok sounds like a stutterer (nothing against stutterers!)? my sound has a delay of at least 2 sec. and amarok often just stumbles...
[11:06] <haluk> thanks ganymed i am trying ur suggestion
[11:06] <savagenator> anyone?
[11:06] <ganymed> savagenator: try system settings, display
[11:07] <jjs0ah> ganymed: could be the engine you are using (maybe gstreamer).. could be arts, in which case messing with the sound server settings might resolve it
[11:08] <ganymed> jjs0ah: arts runs in real time priority. any other things i can set up there? what "backend"/engine do you recommend?
[11:09] <nestorm> ganymed: does it sounds bad all the time or just now?
[11:09] <nico8481> do many of you use konqueror as a web browser?
[11:09] <KaoticEvil> savagenator: you'll need to reconfigure your X server
[11:10] <KaoticEvil> nico8481: i use konqi and firefox
[11:10] <jjs0ah> ganymed: i believe there is a xine engine for amarok, but i'm not a big amarok user. playing everything through kaffeine
[11:10] <nestorm> nico8481: I do. Konqueror 70%, Firefox 30%
[11:11] <savagenator> KaoticEvil: how do i do that, i'm a linux noob
[11:11] <ganymed> nestorm: well, there is always a delay. concerning amarok, it just happens from time to time, like an old record "jumping"... very nerve-racking though
[11:11] <KaoticEvil> savagenator: from a console... "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:11] <nestorm> yeah, I know what you mean
[11:11] <ganymed> i use xine for kaffeine... i'll give it a try
[11:11] <sniff> nico8481: I always used to use firefox, but then I started with konqueror, and now I see no need to install firefox
[11:11] <nestorm> I think the prob comes from the engine not from arts, like jjs0ah says
[11:12] <savagenator> i have no idea what that means
[11:13] <nico8481> dunno, i don't like the idea myself of using a web browser that is also the file manager :-/
[11:13] <KaoticEvil> !xorg
[11:13] <ubotu> [xorg]  To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[11:13] <nico8481> i feel it "insecure" somehow (don't ask me what i mean , i don't know exactly :P )
[11:13] <savagenator> thanks
[11:13] <KaoticEvil> try one of those links, savagenator... should be some useful info there :)
[11:13] <sniff> nico8481: before I felt the same way after having used windows, but now I see how linux and windows are completely different
[11:14] <KaoticEvil> nico8481: kinda like another OS, eh?
[11:14] <ganymed> but there is sth. related... let's say i open a cdrom with konqueror and at the same time play some music (with amarok), then i get heavy performance problems, meaning that the music stops and possibly doesn't recover anymore - so it keeps stumbling
[11:14] <ganymed> any ideas?
[11:14] <nico8481> KaoticEvil: yup, another os that i don't use :p
[11:15] <nestorm> ganymed: what is your machine? maybe you're heavy loading it
[11:15] <nestorm> Amarok is not xmms
[11:15] <KaoticEvil> ganymed: that specific problem could be caused by the fact that your CDROm drive may be using PIO transfer mode instead of DMA
[11:15] <ganymed> nico8481: but the "other" os has no comfort...
[11:15] <ganymed> no, it uses dma, checked with hdparm
[11:15] <jjs0ah> ganymed: it could also be hdparm settings.. like dma being disabled and the stumbling occuring during reads / writes to the drive
[11:16] <ganymed> it's a samsung notebook, 1.8 GHz, 1024 MB RAM bla bla, should be sufficient
[11:16] <ganymed> by the way, i do not have the problem with my desktop pc (debian etch)
[11:16] <sniff> ganymed: the problem is probably that your laptop is too new :)
[11:17] <ganymed> sniff: hh?
[11:17] <nestorm> ganymed: you ever have sound problems with linux in that laptop?
[11:17] <sniff> ganymed: Just saying, cos after buying my laptop I had to wait nearly a year before linux would begin working ok
[11:17] <jjs0ah> ganymed: try another engine. another player entirely. if it works, chock it up to buggy software and try it again later :\
[11:18] <ganymed> mmhhhh. i like amarok :(
[11:18] <KaoticEvil> odd.. mine is using PIO O_o
[11:18] <sniff> ganymed: try the OSS mixer out of interest? Or disable ACPI in the kernel line?
[11:18] <ganymed> the asian guy on the cover is very cool...
[11:19] <ganymed> sniff: well, disabling acpi might be an idea, but no, thanks. i am glad i didn't have to wait one year for my nb to work... and giving up acpi will kill my machine entirely
[11:20] <sniff> ganymed: only mention it not as a permament fix or solution but it might give you a clue as to where the problem lies
[11:21] <ganymed> and i haven't had to recompile my dsdt like on my first laptop
[11:22] <ganymed> sniff: i know, thanks. but i am a bit superstitious when it comes to acpi... bad expereciences
[11:23] <sniff> oh dear
[11:23] <ganymed> i'll try another engine and player first... and then let's see... or i just wait a while... let's say a year or two...
[11:24] <ganymed> i wish there was only 5% of the money it the open source dev that M$ has to their disposal
[11:24] <ganymed> in
[11:26] <jjs0ah> ganymed: i wouldn't be surprised if there was some real polish on the linux desktop by that time. :) should try again sooner than that
[11:27] <ganymed> well, my hopes for the future: a fast kde 4 and rocking away windows vista :)
[11:27] <sniff> ganymed: i heard that the real guru of sound is Crimsun on this channel
[11:28] <ganymed> do you in which part of the world he lives... as to getting up...
[11:28] <ganymed> know
[11:28] <sniff> no, i have no idea. It looks like he should be around now.
[11:28] <sniff> he/she
[11:29] <ganymed> well, have to go right now... i'll come back later. thanks for all
[11:29] <ganymed> cu
[11:35] <KaoticEvil> wth...
[11:36] <KaoticEvil> im compiling a new kernel.. should i use the vanilla sources or the ubuntu sources?
[11:37] <jjs0ah> KaoticEvil: as long as you use the configuration you find in /boot, i don't think it should matter
[11:37] <KaoticEvil> hmm
[11:37] <KaoticEvil> well, make oldconfig fails
[11:38] <KaoticEvil> ill try it after installing gcc-3.4.. right now ive only got 4.x installed
[11:38] <KaoticEvil> there we go... now its working :D
[11:39] <KaoticEvil> whoa... thats a buncha stuff O.O
[11:40] <jjs0ah> KaoticEvil: takes forever building the Ubuntu configured kernel.. if you know what you are doing, configuring each option one at a time will save you a LOT of compile time
[11:40] <KaoticEvil> yeah?
[11:41] <jjs0ah> KaoticEvil: then again, you save as much time as you spent configuring. there are just a lot of modules being built for hardware you probably don't even have
[11:41] <KaoticEvil> i may just go with the vanilla sources then...
[11:42] <KaoticEvil> well, after i make oldconfig... cant i just go thru and reconfigure it with make xconfig ?
[11:42] <jjs0ah> KaoticEvil: yes
[11:42] <KaoticEvil> ok, cool then :)
[11:42] <KaoticEvil> now i gotta install Qt o_o
[11:43] <jjs0ah> i'm partial to make menuconfig
[11:43] <KaoticEvil> thats the term-based config tool, right?
[11:44] <jjs0ah> KaoticEvil: yeah. when it comes time to 'make', use make-kpkg instead. make the kernel the debian way. there are howtos on google
[11:44] <KaoticEvil> you mean when im actually making the kernel itself?
[11:45] <jjs0ah> yeah
[11:45] <KaoticEvil> ok
[11:45] <KaoticEvil> whats the difference between the 2?
[11:51] <jjs0ah> KaoticEvil: google for "compile kernel" "debian way" or something like that. make-kpkg will make a deb out of the finished compile, so you can install the kernel with dpkg
[11:52] <jjs0ah> KaoticEvil: and remove it just as easily
[11:53] <KaoticEvil> jjs0ah: well, im going by the wiki ByHand howto
[11:57] <jjs0ah> KaoticEvil: nothing wrong with doing it that way. its just more convenient in the long run when you use the package management system
[11:57] <jjs0ah> KaoticEvil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24853.html
[12:00] <KaoticEvil> dammit. i cant even find the freakin packages to install to get xconfig or gconfig working :|
[12:16] <_skaman> hi guys
[12:17] <_skaman> can anybody help me?
[12:17] <pathetic> whats your problem?
[12:18] <_skaman> i'm trying to install katapult from sources
[12:18] <_skaman> the one in kubuntu repositories
[12:18] <_skaman> il 2.0 and doesn't work correctly
[12:18] <pathetic> mhm
[12:18] <_skaman> i got this error
[12:18] <_skaman> checking for gcc... no
[12:18] <_skaman> checking for cc... no
[12:18] <_skaman> checking for cc... no
[12:18] <_skaman> checking for cl... no
[12:18] <_skaman> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:18] <_skaman> but I have installed GCC
[12:19] <_skaman> i can't figure what's the matter
[12:19] <luite> _skaman: try installing build-essential
[12:20] <Flosoft> hey
[12:20] <_skaman> already installed
[12:20] <Flosoft> is there a programm with which I can print a list of file names in a directory?
[12:20] <betulio> hey
[12:20] <_skaman> luite is already installed
[12:20] <_skaman> :(
[12:21] <luite> _skaman: hm, should work then... maybe your path variable is b0rked?
[12:21] <Flosoft> maybe with size behind it?
[12:21] <_skaman> luite maybe...
[12:21] <_skaman> how can I fix it?
[12:22] <luite> _skaman: if you type gcc in your shell, what does it say?
[12:23] <_skaman> bash: gcc: command not found
[12:23] <_skaman> :S
[12:24] <luite> that's strange, it should work when build-essential is installed. have you changed anything to your patch variable? or did anything strange in this shell before executing this?
[12:24] <luite> path
[12:25] <jackphil> is there no kget in kubuntu?
[12:25] <_skaman> nothing
[12:25] <_skaman> what sould I do? :'(
[12:25] <luite> _skaman: what is $PATH set to then?
[12:25] <JakubS> jackphil: impossible, i use kget on kubuntu just fine
[12:27] <jackphil> JakubS: maybe amd64 have none?
[12:27] <luite> _skaman: type set in the shell, and find the PATH variable
[12:28] <JakubS> jackphil: that would be an explanation
[12:28] <_skaman> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[12:28] <luite> looks ok
[12:28] <jackphil> who can ensure it?
[12:29] <_skaman> maybe I should remove/reinstall build-essential
[12:29] <_skaman> ?
[12:29] <JakubS> jackphil: apt-cache search kget returns nothing?
[12:29] <luite> _skaman: it may have something to do with the configuration of the gcc versions, I'm not sure how to fix that
[12:30] <JakubS> btw. it in 'universe' section
[12:30] <_skaman> luite thnx
[12:31] <luite> _skaman: I think /usr/bin/gcc should link to the real version of gcc (for example gcc-3.3), but I don't have a kubuntu box atm, so I can't check, sorry.
[12:31] <luite> _skaman: you might try update-alternatives --config gcc
[12:33] <jackphil> JakubS: yes, nothing!
[12:33] <JakubS> you have universe repos enabled?
[12:34] <jackphil> JakubS: yes, everythin is enabled. i think
[12:35] <_skaman> ok i purged reinstallaed gcc
[12:35] <_skaman> and now works fine :D
[12:36] <JakubS> jackphil: breezy or dapper?
[12:36] <jackphil> Oh, it's dapper
[12:37] <JakubS> very weird, i checked http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 and kget package _is_ there
[12:38] <jackphil> JakubS: i'll try this source
[12:39] <JakubS> don't forget apt-get update :-)
[12:44] <vikke> can someone help me with this really strange problem i have?
[12:45] <Blippe> ask away vikki, the only question forbidden in this channel is of the type "can someone help me?" without stating with what!
[12:46] <Blippe> vikke not vikki
[12:48] <marcovic> hi all...i just installed kubuntu breezy and i have that problem....tryng to copy from an USB HD (160 G) a 1.1 GB folder to my HD, this devices go to "stall" and i can't transfer my folder...which is the problem?
[12:55] <vikke> well i have this problem with konqueror, everytime i open a konqueror window this error msg box show up and display "Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error."
[01:02] <setog3> someone can help me with adept (ok I use debian) , but I am sure many people use adept here , so I ask , I can't run adept : could'not open cache .. how can I fix this ?
[01:03] <tsdgeos> setog3: running as root?
[01:03] <mornfall> setog3: hi
[01:03] <mornfall> setog3: unfortunately
[01:03] <mornfall> setog3: i suspect adept is in too bad shape in debian
[01:03] <setog3> yes trying without root , and with root privilege
[01:04] <mornfall> setog3: when you can bribe isaac to upload for me :)
[01:04] <setog3> mornfall, don't understand  bribe isaac to upload for me ?
[01:04] <mornfall> setog3: i don't have upload rights anywhere
[01:04] <tsdgeos> setog3: issac is a debian mantainer and mornfall the adept coder
[01:05] <mornfall> setog3: so i depend on other people to do uploads
[01:05] <estel> hi
[01:05] <tsdgeos> hi
[01:05] <mornfall> setog3: i have a new source package sitting on my harddrive waiting for isaac to have time
[01:05] <mornfall> setog3: when that's in, it should work again
[01:06] <mornfall> setog3: with the new version that is
[01:06] <setog3> hmm ok .. so I wait thx
[01:06] <mornfall> setog3: you aren't missing much, 1.88 was a fair bit buggy
[01:06] <estel> i'm tryiing to compile a fritz card kernel module for a friend that uses ubuntu; so i've installed ubuntu to have the same compiler, libs and so on...; however, the problem is: fcdslslusb: version magic '2.6.15.5-ubuntu1 preempt 486 gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.15-15-386 preempt 486 gcc-4.0; any ideas how to solve that problem? the module seems to work, if forced to load.
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[01:18] <Hobbsee> NoName: why?
[01:18] <NoName> hrts mich ?
[01:18] <NoName> german ?
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !de
[01:18] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:18] <Hobbsee> oops
[01:20] <tomeklu> hi all
[01:25] <maenty> How can I make programs start automatically when I start X/KDE?
[01:26] <killian> how can I synchronise the clock regularly with KDE?
[01:26] <JakubS> maenty: link it into .kde/Autostart
[01:26] <maenty> JakubS: thanks
[01:35] <maenty> anyone here using kbiff? If yes, do you know how can I start kbiff without the options window coming in the beginning. I'd like it to just start in systray
[01:36] <maenty> I tried to look kbiff --help-all but I don't find any command line option for making it start without the options window
[01:36] <sikor_sxe> is it possible to install from livecds
[01:36] <sikor_sxe> ?
[01:37] <maenty> sikor_sxe: good question
[01:37] <keep_it_real> hi all
[01:38] <NoName> plz give me a qnet server ip
[01:38] <sikor_sxe> because installing totally fails from common breezy install cd (dhcp and mouse and whatever)
[01:38] <sikor_sxe> but the livecd runs flawless
[01:39] <NoName> QUAKENETIP PLZ
[02:07] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can i delete my hda6 partition if my root partition is hda7?
[02:12] <maenty> what is the best firewall program for linux/KDE?
[02:12] <maenty> I have tried Firestarter, which not only blocked all traffic but also the "add rule" option was gray so I can't add any rules
[02:13] <zmo1138> hi DjDarkman, use fdisk /dev/hda and delete hda6, do you have it mounted? if so umount it first :)
[02:14] <DjDarkman> it`s unmounted
[02:14] <DjDarkman> i tried to delete it with gparted
[02:15] <zmo1138> DjDarkman, try it using fdisk as root
[02:17] <DjDarkman> i did it
[02:18] <DjDarkman> but it didn`t delete it
[02:18] <DjDarkman> Command (m for help): d
[02:18] <DjDarkman> Partition number (1-10): 6
[02:18] <DjDarkman> Command (m for help):
[02:18] <zmo1138> ok and w to write changes to disk
[02:19] <DjDarkman> k zmo1138 10x
[02:20] <DjDarkman> it worked
[02:20] <zmo1138> cool
[02:20] <visik7> I got a strange behaviour using eclipse+pydev+kde : the right click on the projects panel doesn't work using pydev prospective, while works when gnome is used instead of kde and works also in windows
[02:33] <maenty> alright I got rid of the kbiff since I didn't find any way to start it without the window coming (just in systray)
[02:33] <maenty> I installed Korn instead.. however, it seems korn does not have any icons included. I would like to add some mail icons for empty mailbox / full mailbox. How can I add icons and where can I get icons for KDE?
[02:34] <DrMO> hello
[02:34] <Hobbsee> maenty: kde-look.org, i think
[02:34] <DrMO> I've just bought an agp 8x card (GF5200) nothing special. how can I tell if linus has picked up the cards 3d abilities?
[02:35] <maenty> Hobbsee: thanks
[02:39] <DjDarkman> i deleted a partition and i get error 15 when grub wants to start ,what should i do?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> um....i dont rmeember what error 15 is, but reinstall grub?
[02:40] <DjDarkman> how can i reinstall grub?
[02:41] <Hobbsee> !grub
[02:41] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:43] <stian> hi, do anyone know how I can connect to another PC on the network and copy he`s files ? like music, movies and things like that ? I have Kubuntu, and he have Windows Xp
[02:44] <_Tobias_> How can I determine the Version auf a Kubuntu CD if I haven't installed yet? If press F1 for Help it says for Kubuntu Flight 5 (both live and install) that I have Version 20051026ubuntu22. That would be pretty old.
[02:46] <Hobbsee> !tell stian about samba
[02:47] <Hobbsee> _Tobias_: date would be incorrect then - flight 5 was released a few days ago
[02:48] <_Tobias_> Hobbsee: thanks for the info. I guess I'll download a ubuntu version and check if it also says such an old date
[02:48] <Hobbsee> _Tobias_: there's only one flight 5 - and it was released a few days ago
[02:49] <_Tobias_> Hobbsee: is there no flight 5 for kubuntu? only for ubuntu?
[02:50] <stian> Hobbsee: Is it not a easyer method ? like just write he`s local ip, then i get the files, og the name of the computer ?
[02:50] <_Tobias_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/ has recent images from 14. March
[02:50] <Hobbsee> _Tobias_: ah, i thought there was a kubuntu flight 5 - maybe it's not out yet.  you can always grab a flight 4 and update if you want
[02:51] <_Tobias_> Hobbsee: thanks
[02:51] <Hobbsee> stian: konq, network folders, samba shares
[03:13] <ehj> I want to make a windows partition on 4 laptops (all now running kubuntu dapper), but the "Disk&Filesystems-System Settings" says the module could not be load because of an "orphaned controle module". Can I do the partition in any other way?
[03:21] <angasule> I was here 3 days ago and mentioned a problem about fonts sometimes changing size after booting, I did "dxpyinfo | grep dots" and I got 75x75 (smallish) and now 101x101 (okayish)
[03:28] <knoppix> hy ,i deleted my hda6 partition and hda7 was my /boot/ and hda8 was ,my root partition ,i rewrote fstab ,fixed the grub in the boot sector ,rewrote the grub menu ,what else do i haveto do?
[03:29] <mysql_tester> hello folks
[03:30] <mysql_tester> I'm using mysql admin
[03:30] <mysql_tester> and cant view the content of a table
[03:30] <mysql_tester> it doesnt work
[03:30] <knoppix> mysql_tester, go to #mysql
[03:31] <mysql_tester> i'm on chan but nobody can tell me about
[03:33] <vikwes01> !mp3
[03:33] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:36] <ehj> knoppix: is there a partition tool in the knoppix version 5.0 CD?
[03:36] <knoppix> i dunno i`m using 3.9
[03:37] <ehj> is there one in 3.9?
[03:39] <knoppix> yes
[03:43] <Nakkel> When my desktop is locked I cant unlock it because the unlock dialog wont accept my password. I was pointed that this can happen if "kcheckpass" doesnt have proper SUID bits. How do I change the SUID bits for "kcheckpass"?
[03:47] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:58] <pussfeller> isn't there a server list of popular irc nets in konversation?
[04:00] <mth`MAW> not inmy distri
[04:01] <pussfeller> me neitehr
[04:07] <Iteniel> hali
[04:08] <Iteniel> ki tud nekem segteni?
[04:08] <fek> hi
[04:09] <fek> how do i synchronesize my nokia 6630 with evolution over multisync?
[04:16] <_curtis_> can someone help me upgrade Firefox to 1.5?  I tried the suggestion here : http://www.ubuntux.org/firefox-1-5-locally-on-my-ubuntu-5-10  but didn't work.
[04:17] <_curtis_> i unpacked it and moved it but the symbolic link didn't seem to work.  1.07 still comes up
[04:22] <Snake__> _curtis_: can I make a suggestion?
[04:23] <_curtis_> sure
[04:24] <_ubuntu> hi
[04:24] <Snake__> _curtis_: use this
[04:24] <Snake__> !klik
[04:24] <ubotu> klik is probably a simple way to "install" programs! Simply install their client with "wget klik.atekon.de/client/install -O -|sh" then "sudo apt-get install binutils libstdc++5 rpm"! You can go to their site and "Shop!"
[04:27] <_curtis_> ubotu: i can go to their site and "Shop"?
[04:27] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _curtis_
[04:27] <Snake__> _curtis_: http://klik.atekon.de/
[04:28] <Snake__> Thats the site, you just go there, select the program you want to run, and it will install itself into a single file, when you delete the file that shows up on your desktop, thep program is uninstalled
[04:28] <Snake__> its great when you want a program not in the repos
[04:28] <_curtis_> Snake_ yep...checking it out now.  pretty neat.  Makes it simple to install for sure.
[04:29] <_curtis_> I'll give it a go.  Thanks!!!
[04:29] <Snake__> _curtis_: The only catch is, its not runable from command line (not like typing in "firefox") its a bit more work than that
[04:30] <jshaw> Am I a total idiot, or is firefox not in the repositories for Dapper?
[04:31] <Snake__> jshaw: its there
[04:32] <Snake__> So I would say your a total idiot! :)
[04:32] <jshaw> that is what I figured... this is my first time using Kubuntu or a Debian based distribution
[04:32] <jshaw> do I need to add a repository to the source.list or something?
[04:33] <Snake__> jshaw: Do you have your universe/multiverse repos uncommented?
[04:33] <jshaw> yes
[04:33] <Snake__> jshaw: did you "sudo apt-get update"?
[04:33] <jshaw> yep
[04:34] <Snake__> Hmm
[04:34] <jshaw> and sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:34] <jshaw> which says
[04:34] <Snake__> Can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install firefox"?
[04:34] <jshaw> jshaw@jshaw:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:34] <jshaw> Reading package lists... Done
[04:35] <jshaw> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:35] <jshaw> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:35] <jshaw> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:35] <jshaw> is only available from another source
[04:35] <jshaw> However the following packages replace it:
[04:35] <jshaw>   libnss3
[04:35] <jshaw> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[04:35] <Snake__> jshaw: Dont paste in the channel plz
[04:35] <Snake__> jshaw: try "apt-cache search firefox" and PASTEBIN that output to me
[04:35] <jshaw> oh, sorry
[04:37] <jshaw> ok.. I am a total idiot.. I missed one of the repositories when I uncommented things
[04:37] <_curtis_> Snake_ keep getting that klik is not a registered protocol?
[04:37] <Snake__> Heh
[04:37] <Snake__> _curtis_: what browser
[04:37] <_curtis_> Firefox
[04:37] <_curtis_> should I use Konquere
[04:38] <Snake__> _curtis_: you have to program klik into that one, you can either A) Use Konq or B) Go to the FAQ and learn how to program protocols
[04:38] <_curtis_> Snake_: hehehe....I'll use Konq
[04:38] <Snake__> Alrighy
[04:39] <Snake__> heyy Kamping_Kaiser
[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Snake__
[04:40] <Snake__> Hows your night
[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> was good - i ws about to go to bed ;)
[04:41] <Snake__> Ooo fun
[04:41] <nalioth> Kamping_Kaiser: you? bed/ say it aint so!
[04:41] <Snake__> lol
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> nalioth: my secret is out!
[04:42] <Snake__> jshaw: you got it now?
[04:42] <jshaw> ya, thanks a bunch
[04:42] <_curtis_> Snake_: thanks for that.  Now I just have to figure out how to run it :p
[04:42] <Snake__> _curtis_: see that icon on your desktop?
[04:42] <_curtis_> firefox.cmg?  yeah....clicked it
[04:43] <Snake__> _curtis_: then it should be loadin
[04:43] <_curtis_> says Firefox is already running.  It's not but it says I may need to restart the system.  I'll give it a go.
[04:44] <_curtis_> Is it OK to change the Name? or move the Icon?  I don't like things on my desktop
[04:44] <Snake__> _curtis_: that icon is your whole program. Everything bundled into one, you can burn that to a disk if you want and run it from there ;)
[04:45] <_curtis_> so I guess it's ok to move it and put the Firefox Icon to it :)  It's runnign now.  THANKS!
[04:45] <Snake__> Woo!
[04:45] <Snake__> :)
[04:45] <Snake__> Enjoy
[04:45] <_curtis_> oooo....how i love my kubuntu install.  I will enjoy.
[04:45] <Toaster^> how do I get acroread by using apt-get?
[04:46] <Toaster^> I've added the multiverse deb-src
[04:47] <jshaw> anyone have any problems with "tg3" drivers in dapper?
[04:47] <Snake__> Toaster^: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install acroread"
[04:48] <Toaster^> Snake__: tried that
[04:48] <Snake__> Toaster^: Pastebin what it says?
[04:48] <Toaster^> Package acroread is not available, but is referred to by another package
[04:49] <nalioth> Snake__: did you inform about seveas repos?
[04:49] <Snake__> Toaster^: you sure you have the correct sources uncommented (enabled)?
[04:49] <Snake__> nalioth: Im not aware of seveas repo...
[04:49] <nalioth> !seveas
[04:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:49] <nalioth> it has acroread
[04:50] <Snake__> nalioth: so does the repos..
[04:50] <nalioth> Snake__: the regular repos = ancient or borked (see above) version
[04:50] <Toaster^> Snake__: pretty sure..I do not need to add the source? It should already be there...disabled..?
[04:50] <Snake__> i see..
[04:51] <Snake__> nalioth: wanna help Toaster^ with that then? I know nothing about seava's repos
[04:51] <nalioth> Toaster^: open your /etc/apt/sources.list   for editing  (alt-f2 > kdesu kate)
[04:51] <Toaster^> I'm already there :)
[04:52] <nalioth> Toaster^: remove the # from in front of any line beginning with deb EXCEPT the line with 'backports' in it
[04:52] <nalioth> put a # in front of any top lines beginning with deb-cdrom
[04:53] <Toaster^> ok, done..I had uncommented the backports too
[04:53] <nalioth> i don't care too much for backports
[04:54] <nalioth> you may go back later if you wish and enable them
[04:54] <nalioth> now find everywhere the word "universe" and replace it with "universe multiverse"
[04:54] <Toaster^> yep..but anyway..I've done apt-get update and apt-get install acroread still gives me the same result
[04:55] <nalioth> Toaster^: see that link the bot spat out?
[04:56] <nalioth> !info acroread
[04:56] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB
[04:56] <nalioth> Toaster^: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get update"    acroread should be there
[05:00] <Toaster^> nalioth: same message :/
[05:02] <jshaw> This is driving me crazy, ever 5-10 minutes my networking interface drops
[05:03] <nalioth> Toaster^: hang on a minute
[05:03] <Toaster^> ok..thanks for helping me :)
[05:05] <nalioth> ok Toaster^ put his at the bottom of your sources.list     #seveas repos <enter>  deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all  <enter> deb-src http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all
[05:05] <WolfManz611> WEhen is the next major version of Kubuntu comming out anyone know?
[05:06] <jshaw> around April according to the website
[05:06] <WolfManz611> is it worth installing any of these flight things they have out?
[05:06] <nalioth> it'll be around june 1st, dapper was pushed back
[05:06] <crimsun> no, that's outdated
[05:06] <crimsun> as nalioth mentioned
[05:07] <nalioth> hi crimsun where ya been hidin?
[05:07] <crimsun> busy as a bee
[05:09] <Toaster^> thanks nalioth!
[05:09] <WolfManz611> is it worth installing any of these flight things they have out?
[05:10] <nalioth> WolfManz611: not really, wait for a Release Candidate
[05:10] <WolfManz611> ok thanks i know this version i have now has bugs in it like the drive icons not showing up on the desktop for whatever reason
[05:11] <tinin> please, does someone use zoto.com (like flirk) to upload photos? Do you know a program to upload photos (like fspot) for kde??
[05:11] <nalioth> Toaster^: you update and get all that good stuff ?
[05:11] <WolfManz611> no whats the fastest way to do that?
[05:12] <WolfManz611> its been a few months since i have been in kubuntu
[05:12] <jshaw> I assume if you are running breezy when the next verison comes out you are probably much and apt-get dist-update away from getting it?
[05:12] <crimsun> if I understand what you asked, yes
[05:13] <jshaw> ok.. in English.. all you have to do is an apt-get dist-upgrade to go from Breeze to the next version when it comes out
[05:14] <crimsun> well, there are a variety of ways. You can get a Dapper cd, pop it in, reboot, and choose the Update option. Or, you can update your sources.list, change breezy-> dapper, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.
[05:14] <crimsun> There's work on an easier upgrade path using a gui tool.
[05:16] <jshaw> as long as the upgrade bath doesn't involve a reinstall it is fine with me... I've switched from Slackware to Gentoo about 3 years ago because it was a royal pain everytime a new version was released...
[05:17] <nalioth> jshaw: you should never have to "reinstall" ever again
[05:17] <nalioth> jshaw: stay away from non official repos and pkgs (they don't play well when it comes time to upgrade)
[05:18] <jshaw> that is what I was hoping for, I like the interface and the default tool set so far... though I think installing Flight 5 as my first Kubuntu experience was a bit of a mistake.. I'm going to step down to the stable release
[05:18] <WolfManz611> i got v5.10 do they have something better then that out now?
[05:20] <nalioth> jshaw: what issues are you having with dapper (discuss for dapper in #ubuntu+1 btw)
[05:20] <Toaster^> nalioth: I did  get acroread, but when I ran apt-get update I got an error when updating the sources you gave me...something about signatures..I'll check
[05:21] <Toaster^> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[05:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Toaster^ about seveas
[05:21] <nalioth> Toaster^: read the wiki page, you'll be sorted
[05:21] <Toaster^> ok, thank you very much for your help!
[05:31] <hoka> hey
[05:31] <Unity> does anyone if there is a way to password protect opening particular folders through konqueror?
[05:33] <hoka> maybe you can change the owner of the folder
[05:35] <bhna> Unity: kgpg
[05:40] <Unity> bhna: but this wont lock the directory entirely, in case i lose the folder when it keeps the encrypted pasword or whatever?
[05:43] <WolfManz611> is there a way to get the SU password if you forget what it is?
[05:44] <hoka> if you using older ubuntu without some recent update
[05:44] <nalioth> WolfManz611: there is no SU password
[05:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell WolfManz611 about root
[05:45] <bhna> Unity: then you can change thos service menu: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=11227
[05:45] <bhna> Unity: thos -> this
[05:54] <nico8481> re
[05:59] <bmc> It's just crazy...
[06:00] <chemaja> I've just installed kubuntu-desktop after cracking the shits at Gnome 2.14 on my fresh Dapper install.
[06:00] <chemaja> Perhaps is my current listening music ("The Passion", Peter Gabriel), but KDE is absolutely knocking my socks off.
[06:00] <chemaja> So clean, elegant and just... tight. Amazing.
[06:00] <chemaja> Kudos to the KDE community for their vision and talent.
[06:00] <chemaja> ps. thanks to the gurus over at art.gnome.org for the background image; I came across it while customising my Gnome session earlier today. You guys surely do rock.
[06:00] <chemaja> -chemaja
[06:00] <chemaja> ;-)
[06:01] <WolfManz611> is there a way to get the drive icons up on the desktop? mine should be displaying but there is nothing there
[06:25] <fabioFx> hi
[06:25] <Far^Side> hello, I wonder if it's possible to restart the USB subsystem, without having to restart my computer? Because, sometimes when I connect my USB SD card reader to my Natural Keybard Pro's built in USB hub, the keyboard stops working, and the "lsusb" program just hangs, and displays nothing. Then I can't connect new USB devices. My already connected USB mouse still works though.
[06:26] <nalioth> m5m: how is it goin?
[06:27] <m5m> hiya nalioth pretty good :-P
[06:28] <m5m> nalioth: got amarok 1.4 pretty much working after using checkinstall; it was kindof fun; Now I'm trying to figure out how to reformat a mounted vfat drive so I can have more internal room for my music files rather than keeping them on an external hd
[06:29] <m5m> Gotta keep the win32 section for some proprietary apps on that internal hdd, but want to reclaim 80% of it for *nix.  Anyone have experience downsizing a win partition and reclaiming what's left?
[06:30] <m5m> or should I just (ahem) obtain a copy of partition magic and try using that?
[06:31] <nalioth> why reformat? *nix reads/write to fat32 just fine
[06:31] <Far^Side> m5m, If it's NTFS I guess you should try with PQmagic
[06:31] <Far^Side> oh I didn't see that you said it was vfat...
[06:31] <m5m> nalioth: hmm that's true huh!  that never occured to me.
[06:32] <m5m> much simpler
[06:32] <nalioth> m5m: with *nix "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[06:32] <m5m> I love it when my project queue suddenly dwindles with a simple revelation
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[06:34] <m5m> :-P
[06:35] <Far^Side> m5m, you might also try to find some ext3 drivers for WinXP, and then format that partition to ext
[06:36] <nalioth> m5m: i've been windows free since the year 2000. if i can do it, anyone can.
[06:36] <m5m> nalioth: I'm pretty much windows free at home; my wife gets a few windows-only multimedia cds from her school that won't work under wine... if not for that, I'd wipe it completely
[06:37] <Far^Side> nalioth, I'm also kinda windows free (on my main computer at least), but I have an old winxp box in the corner (connected to, using rdesktop)
[06:38] <nalioth> Far^Side: m5m is using fat32, so no problems
[06:38] <m5m> err I think it' might be ntfs is that bad?
[06:39] <Far^Side> nalioth, yes I see that, but ext3 is far much better than fat32 (Not sure if the XP drivers is that good though)
[06:45] <Bracken> Can anyone help me with a new kubuntu install that won't load kde?
[06:45] <nalioth> Bracken: ask your question
[06:46] <Bracken> The problem (I think) is that it is trying to use my onboard graphics card, instead of my pci g-force
[06:46] <Bracken> I don't know how to change the configuration
[06:46] <nalioth> Bracken: disable your onboard card in the bios
[06:46] <Bracken> okay
[06:47] <Bracken> once I do that will it automaticall detect the other card?
[06:48] <Bracken> Do I change it under Primaty Video controller? It can be set to 'Auto' or 'onboard'
[06:50] <nalioth> Bracken: it should detect the other card
[06:51] <Skrot> Okay. Who was it that has responsibility for fine tuning Kubuntu so it looks neat at standard? Because my fontsize seems to me jumping up and down like crazy each time I restart my computer or my X. As in verdana 7 is bigger og smaller each time
[06:54] <Skrot> Dapper by the way. So I guess something is changing between dist-upgrades
[06:55] <Bracken> Is there a command I can run to make it check which card to use? Because it doesn't start x because it says its trying to use the intel onboard graphics controller. Sorry, i'm no linux expert.
[06:56] <Bracken> in the xorg.conf file it only has the intel graphics device
[06:56] <nalioth> !xcfg
[06:56] <ubotu> xcfg is, like, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:56] <nalioth> Bracken: ^^^^
[06:56] <Bracken> okay
[06:57] <kimo> is there a GUI network tool to allow me to connect to WEP WLANs?
[06:57] <Bracken> sorry, I can't tell which xserver driver to choose. I have a (pci) G-force fx 5500
[06:58] <nalioth> Bracken: write down that dpkg command, disable your onboard card in the bios, and if the card isnt recognized, you can run that command from the console
[06:59] <Bracken> okay, but did you see my above question.  I can set the primary video controller to 'auto' or 'onboard'. It's set to 'auto'
[07:00] <nalioth> you can't disable the onboard controller, Bracken ?
[07:00] <Bracken> I guess I don't know how. Sorry
[07:00] <nexus> my GUI login screen has the windows manager fvwm on it. i want to edit it to run fvwm-themes-start. what file do i edit
[07:02] <nalioth> Bracken: somewhere in your bios it'll have an option to disable the onboard things
[07:03] <nico8481> anybody involved in libkcddb ?
[07:03] <Bracken> there is a section called integrated devices, and in that there is a setting called 'Primary Video Controller' Would that be it?
[07:04] <nalioth> Bracken: that is it
[07:04] <Bracken> okay, but it can only be set to 'auto' or 'onboard'
[07:07] <jahshua> hello
[07:08] <jahshua> can anyone help me change my window manager please
[07:09] <niels_> Hmm... Kubuntu Dapper is really unstable. Apps keeps crashing all the time... that sucks!
[07:09] <Jupp3> Yeah, it's obvious that everyone else must have same kind of problems too
[07:10] <niels_> Neither kdesvn or cervisia is usable at all.
[07:11] <nico8481> niels_: that's probably why it hasn't been released yet :-)
[07:11] <niels_> nico8481: I know. I'm just frustrated atm.
[07:11] <nico8481> so am i
[07:12] <nico8481> but not for the same reasons :p
[07:12] <nalioth> nico8481: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion
[07:12] <niels_> nico8481: Ok :-) fair enough...
[07:12] <niels_> nico8481: Ok
[07:12] <nico8481> nalioth: i'm not interested in a dapper discussion
[07:12] <niels_> nico8481: How about a "Ubunut flamefest channel"...?
[07:12] <nalioth> Bracken: that sounds strange, is that the only option for video?
[07:13] <nico8481> niels_: hu? :)
[07:13] <Bracken> yeah, I have a Dell Dimension 3000
[07:13] <Bracken> I also have a video memory option, 1 or 8 mb.
[07:15] <nico8481> damn, nobody seems to care anywhere about KDE ripping albums with wrong names, that's strange...
[07:16] <nico8481> told about it on #kde, #kde-devel, #amaroK, nobody gives a shit
[07:16] <miguelangel> hello
[07:16] <epinephri> hi, I've just installed kubuntu on my laptop and can't for the life of me figure out how to play mp3s in amarok. the web says to install gstreamer, but I can't get amarok to use gstreamer, or it tells me to install things that don't show up in apt
[07:17] <miguelangel> I have a problem with the mouse: the middle button doesn't works, but the wheel (on the middle button) does
[07:17] <Jupp3> epinephri: libmad something... You need to install that
[07:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Doesn't amarok use gstreamer by default?
[07:17] <Jupp3> epinephri: And you need to adjust your sources
[07:17] <epinephri> used xine by default here
[07:17] <nico8481> epinephri: i bumped into something about that earlier today, and from what i remember they advised to use xine instead of gstreamer
[07:17] <Jupp3> The file with servers, where it gets stuff from
[07:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell epinephri about repos
[07:18] <nalioth> epinephri: enable universe and multiverse repositories
[07:18] <epinephri> I've done that
[07:18] <epinephri> first thing I did ;P
[07:18] <Jupp3> Yeah, those were the names
[07:19] <klugez> epinephri: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:19] <klugez> have you checked that?
[07:19] <ikaros> after installing ati drivers my fonts are borked(huge) is this a known problem?
[07:19] <epinephri> yep, klugez
[07:20] <epinephri> one sec, will be more detailed about what's going on over here
[07:20] <epinephri> it says to install gstreamer-mad.. amarok does not know about gstreamer
[07:21] <Jupp3> Worked at work nicely
[07:21] <klugez> you have installed gstreamer0.8-mad?
[07:21] <Jupp3> Don't even have Amarok at home
[07:21] <epinephri> I'm on flight 5, if that changes anything
[07:21] <epinephri> yes
[07:22] <klugez> oh, dapper
[07:22] <klugez> amarok is using xine?
[07:22] <epinephri> yes, was like that when I installed it
[07:22] <klugez> try installing libxine-extracodecs
[07:22] <nico8481> dapper_sucks: could you check the version of libkcddb in dappler plz?
[07:22] <epinephri> I searched for that, but it isn't there
[07:23] <epinephri> in adept
[07:23] <rishi> hey guys
[07:24] <epinephri> ugh, what have I done :P
[07:24] <Jupp3> hey guy
[07:24] <klugez> epinephri: hmm, i have it installed
[07:24] <klugez> seems to come from multiverse, are you sure you have enabled it?
[07:24] <Jupp3> epinephri: Of course you can always search for package name in google
[07:25] <klugez> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[07:25] <miguelangel> noone knows what could be the problem? I can't open another tab/paste anything middleclicking
[07:25] <klugez> yep, it's in multiverse
[07:26] <klugez> miguelangel: what kind of mouse do you have?
[07:26] <epinephri> thanks, I'll try tweaking my repos
[07:26] <Jupp3> 2-button? :P
[07:26] <rishi> hey guys, i am getting an error when trying to install automatix...it is saying that it depends on zenity but package zenity is not installed.  How do i install it?
[07:26] <miguelangel> klugez: a logitech trackman marble+
[07:27] <miguelangel> it worked on another install
[07:27] <nalioth> !automatix
[07:27] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:27] <epinephri> I've just enabled "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse"
[07:27] <rishi> oh what's up naliot
[07:27] <rishi> h
[07:27] <epinephri> and fetch updates'd
[07:28] <nalioth> rishi: hoping you won't use automatix. most of the stuff is at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:30] <klugez> miguelangel: many-buttoned mouses are sometimes tricky to set up, try googling with your mouse name and linux, xorg or something
[07:31] <madacf> where are girlskissing videos
[07:33] <madacf> maiby unity will help me or no?
[07:34] <epinephri> libxine-extracodecs appears now, thanks a lot klugez :)
[07:35] <epinephri> I used to use gentoo, it's all very different over here
[07:35] <epinephri> god help me when the time comes to setup the wireless
[07:36] <b0nn> Hi all
[07:37] <b0nn> I had a bug with knode in kubuntu, I googled round, and found it had been reported https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/16673
[07:37] <b0nn> I edited the bug report to say I was also having the issue, then last night I found the problem, and a *fix* of sorts
[07:38] <b0nn> which I also added to the bug report
[07:39] <b0nn> The problem is.. Im not sure if that bug report is being watched (the orig bug was reported november last year)
[07:41] <Dr_House> can anyone tell me why i keep getting an "error loading operating system" error after installing kubuntu 5.10 and ununtu 5.10?
[07:42] <lordvalor> sounds like the default message from a harddisk
[07:42] <lordvalor> in the mbr
[07:42] <b0nn> almost like grub cant find the os
[07:42] <lordvalor> did you install grub?
[07:42] <lordvalor> nope, thats not a grub error
[07:42] <Dr_House> it didn't give me an option to install grub
[07:42] <CellarDoor> hey folks
[07:42] <lordvalor> would be kernel faulting
[07:43] <lordvalor> strange, do you have dual boot dr?
[07:43] <Dr_House> lord, no .. i was getting this same error when i had windows installed as well so i wiped that out and linux is the only thing on here right now
[07:43] <CellarDoor> anyone got advice on spam filters, or a favorite filter ?
[07:44] <lordvalor> okay dr
[07:44] <lordvalor> well, strange thing. you chat from another machine, right?
[07:44] <Dr_House> yup
[07:45] <lordvalor> whats the bios settings of the machine for the HD, LBA or CHS
[07:46] <lordvalor> should be LBA however, linux would get that. did you repartition the whole disk?
[07:46] <Dr_House> i've got a raptor, an SATA hd and an IDE hd .. the raptor is where i've installed linux and that has first boot priority in bios .. if that's what you mean
[07:47] <lordvalor> ah yah
[07:47] <Dr_House> yes, i wiped the disk in the linux installer .. gave 10 gigs to ext3 and 2 gigs to swap space
[07:47] <lordvalor> sounds normal. already tried to switch off the other hds? (cut their power supply)
[07:48] <Dr_House> ah, no haven't tried that yet
[07:48] <lordvalor> maybe the boot order isnt that ordered :)
[07:48] <lordvalor> maybe grub got installed on the wrong mbr
[07:48] <Dr_House> lol
[07:49] <lordvalor> if you hang off the other disks, and error repeats itself, try installing the linux without the other harddisks
[07:49] <lordvalor> however, dunno what a raptor is
[07:49] <Dr_House> raptor is just a 10,000 rpm hd
[07:50] <lordvalor> ATA or SCSI or SATA?
[07:50] <Dr_House> SATA
[07:50] <lordvalor> ah k
[07:50] <Dr_House> ok, i unplugged the other disks .. i'll try installing again
[07:50] <lordvalor> try boot first
[07:50] <Dr_House> i did, it failed
[07:51] <Dr_House> when i get to the partition table screen, can you verify that i have the right settings?
[07:52] <CellarDoor> anyone got advice on spam filters, or a favorite filter ?
[07:52] <lordvalor> well, okay. the error you described is read out of a harddisk mbr, its the default string there, which is sometimes english or native language, depending on which tool touched it last time. so it tried to boot from a MBR which wasnt correctly set up
[07:52] <lordvalor> i use, "seek and delete"
[07:52] <lordvalor> :D spam assassin in kmail here
[07:52] <lordvalor> yeah Dr-House Query it to me
[07:53] <lordvalor> afc
[08:02] <gamxx> witam
[08:04] <madacf> !!list
[08:04] <ubotu> madacf: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:04] <ikaros> where can i adjust the dpi for the fonts used by xorg? since i updated my ati drivers my fonts are huge
[08:07] <epinephri> is there a graphical wifi manager that supports wpa?
[08:10] <_jonathan> hi, I'm trying to add a printer from a server 2k3 box with smb, i can add the printer with no problem. but it will not print
[08:17] <ganymed_> hallo
[08:18] <_jonathan> no one seems to be here
[08:18] <ganymed_> i have just updated to kde 3.5.1. however, when i open pics on a dvd with kuickshow, it copies them to /tmp. how can i revert that behaviour?
[08:19] <apokryphos> ganymed_: what if you open with gwenview?
[08:20] <ganymed_> there it works. but i would like to use kuicktime...
[08:21] <apokryphos> ganymed_: kuickshow. Why?
[08:21] <apokryphos> ganymed_: if there isn't an option in its settings, then I doubt it'd be easy.
[08:24] <ganymed_> i like it... i just need it for pic viewing... fast enough, automatic orientation of the pics...
[08:25] <ganymed_> but why did they change this... this doesn't make sense at all... this is so m$-like...
[08:26] <ganymed_> they shouldn't try to make things better that cannot be made better...
[08:28] <daforze> what is the best firewall on kde
[08:28] <daforze> like firestarter
[08:28] <l3m> daforze: guarddog + guidedog are pretty easy to use
[08:28] <daforze> okay thnx
[08:28] <l3m> daforze: but all firewalls on linux use the same backend
[08:28] <l3m> daforze: so the only difference is the gui ;)
[08:28] <daforze> yeah iptables or something?
[08:28] <l3m> yeah
[08:30] <ganymed_> any ideas about this kuickshow behaviour?
[08:34] <ganymed_> ciao
[08:37] <rance> I just installed the kdeutils package, and now Im running kfloppy to format a series of floppies to make sure the floppy disks are still good, kfloppy is giving me an error telling me I dont have access to the floppy device, my user is a member of the floppy group, so what should I do?
[08:38] <murph2481> can anyone help me with cups?
[08:38] <murph2481> 1 of my computers works fine but this one doesn't :(
[08:38] <murph2481> i get cups: Child exited on signal 15!
[08:39] <murph2481> tried unistalling and reinstalling an no go
[08:39] <rance> murph: you trying to access cups printers on the other box?
[08:39] <murph2481> nope all local to this box
[08:43] <murph2481> any suggestions for the cups problem?
[08:44] <angasule> say, I have a 1.5GB .rar and I have 2GB of free space, unrar is apparently retarded and requires twice the size of the files...
[08:44] <lordvalor> then get more space
[08:45] <angasule> lordvalor: that's MS-speak!
[08:45] <n3storm> XDD
[08:45] <angasule> 2GB is more than enough to extract 1.5GB worth of data, the program is at fault
[08:45] <n3storm> funny
[08:45] <n3storm> rar is not freesoftware
[08:46] <n3storm> blame that
[08:46] <angasule> or is it a feature? :P
[08:46] <angasule> actually, I mostly blame the retard that chose to rar videos
[08:46] <lordvalor> even then, think about it, maybe it needs more space to extract. and if the rar file is 1.5 gigs, maybe unrared size is even bigger.
[08:47] <angasule> but the retardedness of requiring 3GB+ to get 1.5GB of data is pretty bad, too
[08:47] <n3storm> XDD
[08:48] <angasule> lordvalor: ok, I'm rounding values a bit, it's more like 1.5GB rar and 1.8GB unrared, but I have about 2.2GB (that's 400GB more than needed)
[08:48] <angasule> no file in the .rar is 400MB, so even if it were extracting one file to a temp and then moving, it'd have enough space
[08:49] <lordvalor> what ya using to unrar, commandline?
[08:50] <angasule> no, midnight commander
[08:50] <lordvalor> well try unrar x file.rar
[08:51] <lordvalor> cant believe its not working, always worked here
[08:51] <lordvalor> and i am low spaced very often
[08:52] <angasule> what's worse, depending on which partition the .rar file is and to which partition I'm decompressing, I get an error or just a full drive and no error...
[08:56] <koplih> Hi, everybody. I just finished installation of Kubuntu 5.10 few minutes ago and I have a problem. In KDE after a minute or so it just gets stuck - I can move mouse cursor, but it doesn't change (hand -> cursor etc.). Any suggestions?
[08:56] <n3storm> koplih: you get no actions?
[08:57] <leafw> no fix for Dapper Flight 5 liveCD yet? Still an unburnable 718 MB ??? Noone double-checked the size of the iso?
[08:57] <koplih> n3storm: yes - no actions - the grapics is stuck - freezed
[08:58] <nalioth> leafw: my flight5 burnt just fine
[08:59] <koplih> If it helps: I have ECS K7S6A motherboard with AMD XP2200+, 768MB RAM, 120GB Maxtor disk, GF6200
[08:59] <leafw> nalioth: the live CD for ppc?
[08:59] <leafw> I can't burn it
[09:00] <leafw> I forced a burn using cdrecord -overburn and if failed in the very last sectors
[09:00] <n3storm> koplih: mmm gforce6200?
[09:00] <leafw> and it doesn't boot
[09:00] <nalioth> leafw: on that i'm not sure, have you checked the daily images?
[09:00] <n3storm> keyboard frozen too?
[09:00] <leafw> daily where ?
[09:00] <nalioth> leafw: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[09:00] <leafw> I got it from here
[09:00] <koplih> n3storm: yes Asus N6200/TD 128MB, AGP
[09:00] <leafw> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/
[09:01] <leafw> see the live CD ppc
[09:01] <nalioth> leafw: you need to move up the tree a few directories to the "daily-live"
[09:01] <leafw> 718 MB ! and they are real, the burners complain.
[09:01] <koplih> n3storm: keyboard too - ctrl+alt+del isnt helping - just reset
[09:01] <dean> hello all im having a strange problem where my laptops keyboard is missing letters as im typing. anyoe ever heard of this happening before?
[09:01] <dean> its not just me thats hocking at typing too :D
[09:01] <n3storm> koplih: mm sorry I don't know what your problem can be...
[09:02] <koplih> n3storm: thanks anyway
[09:02] <n3storm> koplih: you checked your xorg.conf file is ok?
[09:02] <Dr_House> i need to put the bootable flag on my EXT3 partition, right?
[09:02] <leafw> hum ,ok, let's seet he daily isos
[09:02] <n3storm> "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:02] <Snake__> Hey guys, how would I become a Ubuntero?
[09:02] <koplih> n3storm: in that one minute i saw nothing unusual
[09:02] <leafw> nalioth: was it you that asked about setting up an externa monitor for a ppc laptop
[09:03] <leafw> nalioth: I got it to work, finally
[09:03] <n3storm> koplih: tail says anything useful?
[09:03] <leafw> took me less than an hour, following this tutorial: http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/
[09:03] <nalioth> leafw: i have my monitors well in hand, thank you. (no it was not)
[09:04] <leafw> nalioth: nm
[09:04] <koplih> n3storm: and first problem was with mouse - i got stuck everytime a right-clicked - so i switched from PS2 to usb and it helped
[09:04] <Snake__> nalioth: have you signed the CoC?
[09:05] <n3storm> koplih: so you are ok now?
[09:05] <nalioth> Snake__: anyone who has an ubuntu cloak has signed it
[09:05] <koplih> with the mouse yes but the KDE freezes anyway
[09:05] <sledge> I seem to have a problem running my LCD screen in its native resolution (1280x800). I have a dual screen setup and my first screen (the LCD) is the same resolution as the second screen (1024x768). I am using the ATI drivers and have looked around the forum, but couldn't find a solution. Is there somebody here who had the same kind of problem and was able to solve it?
[09:05] <Snake__> nalioth: didnt see you had that :)
[09:05] <Snake__> nalioth: how would I go about signing it?
[09:05] <koolatron> can anyone tell me why my usbhd does not get automounted anymore?
[09:05] <nalioth> Snake__: make a launchpad account for yourself
[09:06] <koolatron> i can mount it myself via pmount or regular mount
[09:06] <koplih> http://si.wz.cz/beda/xorg.conf
[09:06] <leafw> anyone on dapper-ppc? Can they try to open an opengl app such as glgears over an ssh -X connection to an intel machine ?
[09:07] <koolatron> but it used to, upon insertion, pop up a konq window and give me an icon on the desktop
[09:07] <leafw> it's an old bug in breezy ...
[09:07] <dean> anyone ever heard of an annoying keyboard not registering keypresses problem before?
[09:09] <koplih> n3storm: the xorg.conf says that my grap. chip is unknown - can be that the problem?
[09:09] <leafw> today's live CD image is 724 MB, even larger
[09:09] <leafw> crazy
[09:09] <leafw> can't burn that.
[09:10] <leafw> it even has a tag that says "dapper-live-powerpc.OVERSIZED"
[09:10] <n3storm> maybe
[09:10] <n3storm> koplih: try startx from root
[09:11] <n3storm> and see if it freezes
[09:11] <koplih> n3storm: im in win now :] 
[09:12] <koplih> n3storm: ill try that later - i have some work to do, thanks for suggestion
[09:12] <n3storm> try with another wmanager too
[09:13] <koplih> n3storm: i dont know what wmanger is
[09:13] <nalioth> koplih: kde or gnome or enlightenment
[09:14] <n3storm> nalioth: thanks, thats right koplih
[09:14] <koplih> and how can i change that?
[09:14] <n3storm> apt-get install icewm
[09:14] <n3storm> startx icewm
[09:14] <koplih> thx
[09:14] <n3storm> good luck
[09:19] <_jonathan> Can anyone help me with my printer PLEASE...I'm about to go insane
[09:19] <_jonathan> I'm trying to print from a shared printer on my server 2k3 box
[09:19] <_jonathan> i can add the printer but it will not print
[09:25] <sledge> I seem to have a problem running my LCD screen in its native resolution (1280x800). I have a dual screen setup and my first screen (the LCD) is the same resolution as the second screen (1024x768). I am using the ATI drivers and have looked around the forum, but couldn't find a solution. Is there somebody here who had the same kind of problem and was able to solve it?
[09:28] <leafw> sledge: powerpc?
[09:28] <leafw> sledge: I solved the problem
[09:28] <Xeonwales> afternoon
[09:29] <leafw> following instructions here: http://www.jamendo.com/us/
[09:29] <Xeonwales> can some1 please tell me the diff between ubuntu & kubuntu??
[09:29] <leafw> Xeonwales: different desktop environment. That's all.
[09:29] <nalioth> Xeonwales: gnome and kde
[09:29] <Xeonwales> thats the diff between KDE & Gnome though??
[09:30] <klugez> Xeonwales: quite a lot, see their websites for screenshots and such
[09:32] <leafw> Xeonwales: after all, yes, gnome and kde are "just" desktops. In day to day, you can get as easily used to one than the other.
[09:33] <klugez> Xeonwales: you should try both and see which one you like
[09:34] <Xeonwales> i cant. wireless wont work on laptop with ubuntu.
[09:34] <klugez> kde and gnome can be installed in parallel into same (k)ubuntu installation
[09:34] <Xeonwales> im using linspire @ the mo
[09:34] <Xeonwales> really, really want to move to ubuntu
[09:35] <Xeonwales> or kubuntu
[09:38] <xleo> hola
[09:38] <xleo> hello?
[09:38] <kakalto> hello there :)
[09:38] <leafw> hola/hello
[09:38] <leafw> que pasa
[09:38] <kakalto> no intiendo espanol?
[09:38] <kakalto> (me)
[09:39] <m5m> I just re-partitioned a secondary drive... is there a gui utility will allow me to add it to fstab & automount ?
[09:41] <_magus> hmm. installed the gstreamer package which is supposed to install all the codecs. and i can't get any of the video sinks working with neither kaffeine or VLC... i have the nvidia drivers installed tho. any ideas?
[09:41] <m5m> _magus: did you get w32 codecs?
[09:42] <m5m> !restricted formats
[09:42] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:42] <_magus> is it a separate package?
[09:42] <simian> is quanta still the best web dev software for KDE
[09:42] <m5m> check that link _magus
[09:42] <_magus> will do. thanks.
[09:43] <_magus> ditch that. i got aasink to work on some degree :D
[09:43] <_magus> not that it comforts me greatly.
[09:43] <nalioth> !es
[09:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:43] <_magus> oh well. off to get wiser.
[09:45] <m5m> hey nalioth if I have new partitions available, it's just a matter of deciding where to mount them and adding some lines to fstab right?
[09:46] <_magus> m5m: that's about it.
[09:47] <nalioth> m5m: that is correct
[09:47] <_magus> for the record, what did mtab do?
[09:48] <m5m> what about switching my swap space out to a new partition on a secondary drive?  Isn't that supposed to improve performance?  Will I even notice?
[09:49] <djk_> is it possible to install grub without installing kubuntu with the kubuntu-cd?
[09:49] <nalioth> m5m: unless you are running a high traffic server, probably not
[09:50] <nalioth> m5m: how much ram is on the box now?
[09:50] <_magus> djk_: i think you can access console from cd, if that's what you wanted to know.
[09:50] <m5m> only 512, but it's supposed to run 1gb... I think there's a glitch on the mobo that causes errors with both sticks in... it runs fine with just one (and I have switched it with the other)
[09:51] <m5m> so swap size is currently 1.4gb on the main physical disk
[09:51] <nalioth> m5m: imho you have an overkill swap space
[09:52] <m5m> yeah it was set for 1gb ram
[09:52] <_magus> m5m: thanks for the help with the codecs. that did the trick.
[09:52] <nalioth> but i doubt you'll see a difference if you have the swap on another physical drive
[09:52] <m5m> but I'm only running 512 you think it's still overkill for 1gb?
[09:52] <m5m> ok, what would you resize it to nalioth
[09:52] <m5m> and np _magus, thank ubotu :-P
[09:53] <nalioth> m5m: m5m i'd match the physical ram you have present (any swap over 768 is wasted, imho)
[09:53] <m5m> okies; also if you'd added addition storage space where would you mount it (I realize this is largely a matter of preference) I'm considering inside my home directory...
[09:54] <djk_> _magus: yea, ash. but it didn't recognize grub-install /dev/sda
[09:55] <_magus> djk_: you need to chroot?
[09:55] <nalioth> m5m: i mount all my things into /media and symlink them to where i need them
[09:56] <nalioth> or /mnt/hdX
[09:56] <_magus> is there way to link folders without them ending up as nondescript files that only konqueror can handle?
[09:57] <m5m> ok that sounds good; symlink a dir is 'ln -s /mnt/hdX /home/user/hdX' right?  or does symlinking a dir add a flag nalioth?
[09:58] <nalioth> you can ln -s /mnt/hdX /home/user/anything_you_want_to_call_it
[09:58] <nalioth> i have several dirs symlinked to other drives
[09:58] <_magus> djk_: can't message you back.
[09:59] <m5m> yeah ok sounds good :-P ; where do you mount via nfs?  also to /media ?
[09:59] <_magus> but it's better if i answer you here, so others can correct any mistakes
[09:59] <_magus> djk_: it takes two parameters. first is where do you want to chroot. (i.e. the root of the mounted filesystem) and a shell on the root of the mounted filesystem (i.e. /bin/bash)
[10:00] <nalioth> m5m: anywhere you like
[10:00] <_magus> the grub-install should work from there.
[10:02] <djk_> _magus: i'm still not quite sure what the chroot command would look like
[10:03] <dean> anyone ever heard of a strange problem wh keyboards not registering keypresses under kubuntu?
[10:03] <dean> wh should have been where and shows my problem exactly :D
[10:04] <_magus> first you need to mount the hd you want to install grub on
[10:05] <_magus> let's say you mount it on /mnt/hda
[10:05] <_magus> or whatever.
[10:05] <_magus> chroot /mnt/hda /bin/bash should do it
[10:06] <_magus> be wary that the filesystem you're chrooting into does have /bin/bash tho :P
[10:08] <_magus> and other necesseties. oh well, you just need to reinstall the MBR, right?
[10:09] <djk_> _magus: so, if i'm at the ash shell, i do mount -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt/sda , then chroot /mnt/sda /bin/bash and then grub-install /dev/sda ?
[10:09] <djk_> yes, just need it installed to the MBR
[10:09] <ikaros> is the kde theme manager not in the kdebase package?
[10:12] <_magus> djk_: well. do give it a shot. if it doesn't work, i can't imagine any harm done to the system
[10:13] <_magus> it _is_ a linux system on the sda, right?
[10:14] <_magus> now wait a minute.
[10:14] <djk_> _magus: no, two win systems.
[10:14] <_magus> right. then this is a bit trickier than just chrooting into it.
[10:15] <vicks> how do i make kopete and superkaramba to start at startup?
[10:16] <_magus> hum. let me get this right. you want to use grub to multiboot two windows systems?
[10:16] <djk_> yes
[10:17] <_magus> right. well, i'd imagine you'd need a boot partition to put grub onto.
[10:17] <_magus> i suppose it could work
[10:18] <djk_> but why would i need a boot partition if it's installed to the mbr?
[10:18] <_james> hello?
[10:18] <jtshaw> grub needs to find its second stage files to work
[10:19] <_magus> because the binaries and config files for grub still reside on the hd
[10:19] <_james> yeah I was wondering if there is a way for me to install KDE 3.5 from KDE 3.4
[10:20] <_magus> any particular reason you want to use grub for this? i thought windows had its own multiboot utility
[10:22] <djk_> _magus: well, it had.. the boot.ini of win2k got screwed when i installed win95. i forgot that win isn't as nice as linux.
[10:22] <_magus> why not try using the w2k disc to recover from it?
[10:24] <djk_> _magus: because i don't have that cd.. i bought the pc from my university.
[10:24] <jtshaw> I'm really starting to get confused here, the Kubuntu installer sees my eithernet interfaces as "eth0 - ipw2200" and "eth1 - bcm5705"  When the system boots the tg3 driver comes up and says  "eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM5705mA1)..." and later comes up and says eth1 link detected.  Anyone know why it would change
[10:25] <_magus> djk_: then you're pretty much stuck with w95..
[10:25] <_magus> you _do_ have a choice, tho.
[10:25] <_magus> and i'd imagine anything would beat using w95.
[10:25] <djk_> _magus: i could of course resize the NTFS on which win2k is installed, and then install kubuntu. but it's only a 9gb hdd..
[10:26] <djk_> _magus: actually, i bought the pc just because of win95.. for old games.
[10:26] <_magus> right. that makes sense.
[10:27] <_magus> where would you need the w2k partition then?
[10:29] <djk_> _magus: what do you mean?
[10:31] <murph2481> is i reinstall flight 5 without formatting
[10:31] <murph2481> do i lose all my settings?
[10:31] <_magus> ah nevermind. if you really insist on being able to boot on both systems, if you could create a linux partition, i think it should be possible to boot on both systems. i don't just know how far you would need to get into the installation
[10:32] <Dr_House> i installed ubuntu .. but when the machine boots, it asks me to login and takes me to a command prompt .. how do i get to the GUI?
[10:32] <_magus> i bet you need a working linux partition, even if it's minimal
[10:33] <_magus> and i think ubuntu isn't the way to go then
[10:33] <_magus> why don't you try gentoo?
[10:34] <_magus> it should be able to do what you want just fine
[10:34] <frank__> Dr_House: you did a default install?
[10:34] <Dr_House> frank, i think so
[10:34] <Dr_House> i just put int he cd and followed instructions
[10:34] <_magus> that is, if you can resize the partition without having to format it.
[10:35] <frank__> Dr_House: you should get the gui automatically. If not, you probably have a problem somewhere.  try logging in and  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:35] <Dr_House> alright, lemme try that
[10:35] <frank__> Dr_House: you have kubuntu, right?
[10:36] <Dr_House> frank are you familiar with this problem: i'm installing dapper drake kubunut .. about 65% through, it puts my monitor into standby mode
[10:36] <ikaros> does any one have an idea why kde system settings dont show me the "look and feel" options for installing themes?
[10:36] <Dr_House> frank, yes, i think so .. when i boot up it says kubuntu
[10:36] <murph2481> Dr_house: great show!
[10:36] <Dr_House> heh yeah
[10:36] <frank__> Dr_House: ok. I never tried installing dapper.
[10:36] <murph2481> love people with god complexes and no sympathy
[10:36] <frank__> Dr_House: did the installation complete
[10:37] <djk_> _magus: okay, thanks.
[10:37] <Dr_House> frank, no, riight now it's stuck on "checking battery state"
[10:37] <frank__> Dr_House: that is during boot?
[10:38] <frank__> Dr_House: maybe there is a problem with dapper. did you try installing breezy?
[10:38] <rance> I have a question, I just installed kfloppy and tried to format a disk.  kfloppy exits witout formating the disk with an error stating that either the device its looking for either doesnt exist, or the permissions arent right, I checked that the user is in the floppy group, and I checked devices and my floppy drive device /dev/fd0 is available, but kfloppy is looking for /dev/fd0u1440 because I had to specify the size of the disk
[10:38] <rance> ice?
[10:39] <Dr_House> frank, this is breezy
[10:39] <Dr_House> the thing i mentioned with dapper is a different problem .. i gave up on dapper because of that
[10:39] <Dr_House> yeah, it's during boot
[10:40] <frank__> Dr_House: oh. so breezy doesn't get gui and dapper doesn't even install. You're not very lucky
[10:40] <frank__> Dr_House: so what does sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start   do?
[10:40] <Dr_House> lol
[10:40] <Dr_House> frank, i can't get to the command prompt
[10:41] <Dr_House> its stuck on "checking battery state"
[10:41] <Dr_House> i wonder if i shoudl just start again
[10:41] <Dr_House> format it all and try installing again
[10:42] <frank__> Dr_House: bah...  there are boot options like noacpi or something but I don't know much about them.  If the breezy install completed successfuly, it will not be anydifferent the next time
[10:43] <frank__> Dr_House: maybe do a search for your laptop model in the forums and wiki. what is the model
[10:44] <Dr_House> frank, its a custom built desktop .. msi neo4 platinum motherboard, amd x2 3800+ cpu and raptor HD
[10:44] <frank__> Dr_House: then what battery is that? checking battery state
[10:45] <frank__> I guessed wrong I think
[10:45] <frank__> Dr_House: ok then do searches for your motherboard maybe
[10:45] <Dr_House> lol i dunno
[10:47] <frank__> Dr_House: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64062&highlight=msi+neo4+platinum
[10:47] <Dr_House> ah, thanks
[10:48] <frank__> Dr_House: maybe not the same problem though...
[10:48] <frank__> are you using the amd64 or i386 version of ubuntu?
[10:49] <ikaros> please do anyone tell me if the kde theme manager is standard or an extra package :/
[10:49] <Dr_House> amd64
[10:52] <frank__> Dr_House: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92485&highlight=msi+neo4+platinum   maybe a video card issue?  you could try the i386 version to see if it works better
[10:58] <frank__> oh they put a common gaming forum. ubuntu and kubuntu are together. very nice!
[11:05] <sledge> I seem to have a problem running my LCD screen in its native resolution (1280x800). I have a dual screen setup and my first screen (the LCD) is the same resolution as the second screen (1024x768). I am using the ATI drivers and have looked around the forum, but couldn't find a solution. Is there somebody here who had the same kind of problem and was able to solve it?
[11:12] <lubo> hello, anyone knows some good program for resizing pictures in kubuntu?
[11:15] <nalioth> lubo: does krita work for that?
[11:17] <lubo> nailoth: don't know I will try it:-)
[11:17] <benjamindaines> Anyone home?
[11:18] <nalioth> nope, we're all at the beach
[11:18] <benjamindaines> ah thats a shame now no one can help me compile something from source
[11:18] <lubo> :-) krita works no problem.. thanks
[11:20] <EightiesK> !fat
[11:20] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, EightiesK
[11:20] <EightiesK> !fat32
[11:20] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:20] <benjamindaines> Well anyway, what's the easiest way to comple an app with terminal?
[11:21] <nalioth> !compile
[11:21] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[11:21] <nalioth> benjamindaines: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help ya with the compile stuff
[11:31] <_jonathan> I'm having trouble mounting a server2k3 shared folder
[11:31] <_jonathan> can anyone help?
[11:32] <_jonathan> lol....ok
[11:35] <_jonathan> alright then...that's a no
[11:35] <dbravo> hi
[11:49] <djk_> the livecd includes everything to install grub, right?
[11:58] <ninHer> hi all
[11:58] <pataswing> hi
[11:58] <kakalto> hello
[11:59] <pataswing> is there any fast command to mount hard drives on Kubuntu Live 5.10 ? (lazyness forbids me from searching)
[12:01] <frank__> pataswing: I think there is a script that does it
[12:01] <frank__> !automount
[12:01] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, frank__
[12:01] <frank__> !mount
[12:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:01] <frank__> !windowsdrives
[12:01] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f