[12:05] hehe === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ [02:02] Riddell: ping ? === andred440 [n=snatch@static-ip-62-75-169-150.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Tonio_] : Dapper delayed || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEspresso || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Thurs, 16th March - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings || http://kubuntu.no-ip.org to test networkmanager and knetworkmanager packages === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Tonio_] : Dapper delayed || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEspresso || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Thurs, 16th March - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings || test networkmanager and knetworkmanager packages: http://kubuntu.no-ip.org === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Tonio_] : Dapper delayed || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEspresso || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Thurs, 16th March - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings || test knetworkmanager and wlassistant packages: http://kubuntu.no-ip.org === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === PounK [n=jkhc@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.183.14] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@83-65-232-3.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime_ thinks that he has finally figured out why systemsettings only shows the modules in english. [10:20] any tester of Tonio's packages on http://kubuntu.no-ip.org === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:40] w00t dcfldd is out of NEW :) === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:19] seaLne: congrats :) [11:20] been grinning since i noticed [11:20] seaLne: but has it compiled? [11:20] ah [11:20] yep [11:20] seaLne: what ddfldd? Looks built to me [11:21] jpatrick: thanks [11:21] yep, everywhere https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/dcfldd/1.3.4-0ubuntu1 [11:21] which is always a good sign [11:22] http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/dcfldd <- === ubijtsa_ [n=anders@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:47] <_Sime_> Riddell: did you see my message saying that guidance 0.6.3 is out? === hendry [n=hendry@222.106.128.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-64-134.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:19] is it known that kubuntu-desktop is not dist-upgradable from breezy atm? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:26] Riddell: ping ? that works ;) [01:26] tested knetworkmanager and that works perfectly ;) [01:27] Tonio_: *netswitch packages have entered [01:29] jpatrick: I've seen this ;) [01:29] but my current focus is on knetworkmanager [01:30] jpatrick: I spent 14 hours making all the packages, and well, that rocks ;) [01:34] Tonio_: thanks for knetwrokmanager package [01:35] Tonio_: but we need to deciede what to do with dialup part: fix or remove [01:35] Lure: I did not only this one, but the network-manager package too ;) [01:35] the one provided was horrible (I reused the patches nevertheless) ;) [01:35] Tonio_: but the NM is already being worked on [01:35] Lure: I know, but I finally did the stuff myself [01:36] there were too many things not valid in the package you added on your wikipage [01:36] this one should work finally [01:36] because it is an update of the current package [01:36] the one beeing worked on isn't [01:36] and that a big problem for canonical ;) [01:37] Lure: can you test on my repo ? plz ? [01:37] tested and that's okay for me [01:37] just need to add a dependancy on wpasupplicant [01:37] Tonio_: I will now, I am just running your knetwrokmanager with the other NM [01:37] Lure: okay ;) [01:37] Lure: possible to test everything ? === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D4410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:38] Lure: the problem is that the current package helped me to progress on NM, but will not go, because if it's structure [01:38] Tonio_: will do. I will remove everything (NM, wpa, kNM) and install from your repository [01:38] it is not valid [01:38] Lure: many thanks ;) [01:39] Lure: we have three month to make pressure to have it ;) [01:39] that's worth a pain ;) [01:39] Tonio_: I think that probability greatly increased (have you seen note from Keybuk on DD meeting)? [01:40] Lure: what probably increased ? [01:40] patches and community stuff ? [01:40] of getting NM in Dapper [01:40] Lure: yes, and I remember what mark said ;) we have a chance to get it in === Lure_ [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] Tonio_: I am back, but only wired... :-( [01:54] Luredoesn't work ? [01:55] no :-( [01:55] grmpf [01:55] what's the problem ? [01:55] This is what I get if I try to connect to my WPA2 AP: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/610497 [01:55] can you scan for networks ? [01:56] and yes, I had to manually install wpasupplicant [01:56] LureI know, that is now corrected === _nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:57] Tonio_: no - it seems that my ipw2200 is not functioning anymore [01:57] I loaded module and now I can scan... [01:57] Lureokay ;) [01:57] ifconfig [01:58] I assume this isn't networkmanager's fault [01:58] strange that this is the first time I have problem with ipw2200.... [01:58] Lure what is now corrected is the dependancy on wpasupplicant ;) [01:58] and it worked with other packages... [01:58] notnyour problem though :) [01:58] Lure_: hum........ [01:58] weired [01:59] Lure_: did you reboot to have something clean ? [01:59] yep. I removed old packages, installed yours, rebooted and started knetworkmanager [02:00] grmpf....... [02:00] does the card work now ? [02:00] I will reboot again, check ipw2200 state after reboot, then test with both NM and kNM in --no-daemon mode to get error messages [02:00] Lure_: cool [02:01] Tonio_: card is working and I always got networks reported in kNM, I just could not connect [02:01] if that doesn't work, switch back to the other NML package, to be sure it is here the problem, and I will investigate [02:01] my wife is calling me for lunch, I will be back in 30 minutes [02:01] okay ;) [02:01] good lunch [02:06] Tonio_: you want to get KNetworkManager into dapper? [02:08] OculusAquilae: I'd live ;) [02:08] but we still need to work on it ;) [02:09] i'd love (sorry) [02:09] nice [02:10] wlassistant works nice here [02:10] but knetworkmanager would even be better [02:10] OculusAquilae: I know ;) [02:11] I'll try to test it === Oculus [n=bastian@p548D4410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:19] is anyone else being driven nuts by a missing black line on the right ahnd side of the max/restore button? :) === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:29] Tonio_: after reboot, ipw2200 is fine, just kNM does not work for WPA2 [02:29] I am on wired again [02:29] NM logs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/610553 [02:29] kNM logs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/610555 [02:30] I have even closed wallet, removed kNM stuff but it does not help [02:30] when I try to connect, I do not get dialog to enter password for the first time :-( [02:30] this has worked with kNM that I have compiled and with other NM packages [02:31] I may "downgrade" again, just to see the difference === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:49] Tonio_: have you seen my posts? === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Tonio_] : Dapper delayed || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEspresso || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Thurs, 16th March - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings [02:49] Lure: nope [02:49] [14:28] Tonio_: after reboot, ipw2200 is fine, just kNM does not work for WPA2 [02:49] Lure: I think I know where is locate the problem [02:49] [14:28] Tonio_: after reboot, ipw2200 is fine, just kNM does not work for WPA2 [02:49] [14:29] kNM logs: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/610555 [02:49] [14:30] I have even closed wallet, removed kNM stuff but it does not help [02:50] yes I miss configure options in NM package :) [02:50] [14:30] when I try to connect, I do not get dialog to enter password for the first time :-( [02:50] that normal [02:50] it doesn't find wpasupplicant [02:50] I will now "downgrade" to Johan's NM + your knetworkmanager and see [02:53] Tonio_: same problem - knetworkmanager just hangs on Activation... [02:53] Maybe it is kNM bug [02:53] Which version of kNM did you use? Same as I did (from blog post)? [02:53] yes [02:54] I will try nm-applet, just to confimr it is kNM === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] NetworkManager: Activation (eth1/wireless): access point 'superprout' is encrypted, and a key exists. No new key needed. [02:54] bind(PF_UNIX): No such file or directory [02:54] unlink[ctrl_iface] : No such file or directory [02:54] I'm getting this is the logs [02:54] the problem is I don't know if that is due to knetworkmanager or networkmanager [02:54] Tonio_: have seen something like this once [02:54] Lure: any idea on the way to test this ? [02:56] Tonio_: I will try nm-applet now, but need to disconnect wired network [02:56] will be right back [02:56] k === Lure_ [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:02] Tonio_: back on wireless, but with nm-applet... ;-( [03:03] I suspect this kNM issue (maybe related to KDE wallet) [03:03] currently using Johan's packages, but it may be that your would also work === Tonio__ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:04] Tonio_: back on wireless, but with nm-applet... ;-( [03:04] I suspect this kNM issue (maybe related to KDE wallet) [03:04] currently using Johan's packages, but it may be that your would also work === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:06] Tonio_: ? [03:06] Lureyes ? [03:07] [15:02] Tonio_: back on wireless, but with nm-applet... ;-( [03:07] [15:03] I suspect this kNM issue (maybe related to KDE wallet) [03:07] Lure same problem here with nm_applet [03:07] strange........... [03:07] Lure_: ah ? that works for you ? [03:07] we need to get latest sources from Timo - hist last blog post indicate that [03:07] there were quite some fixes. [03:07] Lureyes [03:07] Tonio_: works, with Johan's packages [03:08] so that works for you with nm-applet........ [03:08] Tonio_: what is different in your packages? [03:08] did you compile with the patches ? === Oculus [n=bastian@p548D4410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] well I haven't been able to build it [03:09] since it was checking for networkmanagerVPN.h file [03:09] I have seen in changelog of Johan's that he basically just forward-port Ubuntu patches from 0.5.x [03:09] that was not in NM package [03:09] yes, but how did you build knetworkmanager ? [03:09] Tonio_: I just removed all VPN stuff - see my patch [03:10] Lure_: you did the patch ? [03:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukaRenko/KNetworkManager [03:10] is it complete ? [03:10] It works for me [03:10] I used it but had other things to remove [03:10] First version was bad (to early in the morning... ), I left out one .h [03:10] now is fixed [03:11] I doubt that we will be able to include NM with VPN [03:11] I know [03:11] VPN brings so many additional dependencies [03:11] but I had to complete tour patch in fact [03:11] This is why 0.5.x has removed it [03:12] Tonio_: yes, and we still need to improve it (dialup networking stuff) [03:12] I would just remove it (it calls yast2 now) [03:12] Lure_: let's find out that latest package [03:12] tarball sorry ;) [03:13] see comments in blog: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukaRenko/KNetworkManager [03:13] sorry: http://blog.nouse.net/?p=75 [03:13] ;-) [03:14] do you know if suse releases some with sources (as Beta8 was released) [03:14] s/some/come/ [03:16] I will try kNM again - I just could not believe that it does not work anymore [03:17] Lure: wanna make a test ? [03:17] ;-) [03:17] you have new kNM? [03:17] I will repackage knetworkmanager without any patch [03:17] and we'll see ;) [03:17] meaning with VPN in? [03:18] I wanted to test my compile again [03:18] Lure: I will build with minimum changes [03:18] Lure: you can confirm nm-applet works ? [03:18] OK, I will test mine until I am waiting for your package... [03:18] Yes, it works (this is over WPA2) [03:18] but with Johan's NM [03:22] hum [03:22] Lure: let's resume [03:22] my knetworkmanager works with johan's package [03:22] new nm-applet works with my NM package [03:23] is that correct ? [03:23] I did not test your nm-applet, only Johan's [03:23] But I was running your kNM (installed over my previous build kNM) with Johan's NM [03:24] Lure: okay, so I really assume the problem is in networkmanager [03:24] as the nm-applet fails here [03:24] there is something missing [03:24] either dependancy or something problematic in the rules file :) [03:24] let me test, we will find ;) [03:24] probably true, but I do not understand why your kNM worked for me, but it does not anymore [03:25] maybe make install did something [03:25] that your package does not... [03:25] Tonio_: are you testing with WPA2 or something else? [03:27] Tonio_: I think we should stick with Johan's NM and focus on kNM polish [03:29] Lure: WEP [03:30] Lure: Johan's NM is crappy ;) [03:30] will never go [03:30] what is wrong? [03:30] works, but the package is not convenient for canonical [03:30] Lure: looked at it ? [03:30] Lure: it build with dpkg-buildpackage but not pbuilder [03:30] just changelog - and it looks like they are just forward porting NM 0.5.x patches [03:31] Tonio_: then fix the build ;-) (I would, but do not know anything about pbuilder ;-)) === hunger [n=tobias@p54A6134C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] Lure: I'm on it ;) [03:35] that's not a big problem, certainly easy to fix once located ;) === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:36] Tonio_: tried my own kNM and it does not work - so your package is at least not worse than my build ;-) [03:37] nm-applet works (even though I need to type in my passwd all the time) [03:37] Lure: yes, I'm convinced the problem is in NM package [03:37] since I merged stuff from canonical and johan's [03:38] but still: why with Johan's NM, nm-applet works and kNM does not? [03:38] Lure: didn't test, :) [03:38] works for you ? [03:38] yes [03:38] good [03:38] so we can consider knetworkmanager package is okay [03:39] and kNM did work before I installed your NM === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] yes [03:39] so my nm is the problem [03:39] Maybe your package has left something on system that broke kNM? [03:39] will work toonight !!!!!!!! [03:39] exactly [03:39] ;-) [03:41] I need to find the god comprimise [03:41] good [03:42] seen this post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=839810&postcount=30 [03:42] who are they? [03:43] Lure: no idea [03:43] Lure: #ubuntu-devel [03:43] jpatrick: never been there, but will check [03:44] jpatrick: canonical employes ? [03:44] Tonio_: dunno [03:44] saw he talking a few moments ago [03:44] Tonio_: he is online in ubuntu-devel - maybe you should ping him about pbuilder [03:44] and let's join forces to get this trough [03:45] Lure: nope, if he is working on the packages, I prefer to let him work ;) [03:45] will make tests on my own for the moment, and foccus on knetworkmanager [03:45] Tonio_: but you should mention pbuilder issue - isn;t that a showstoper for inclusion? [03:46] Lure: he will see the issue don't mind :) [03:47] Riddell: ping? === mornfall nearly faints spotting that libept with -g is 100M === Parkotron [n=parker@fctnnbsc16w-156034215020.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:00] mornfall: hi [04:02] Riddell: you wanted to make the default installer icon be gear right? [04:02] or got something else? [04:03] the icon for adept_installer? === _nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:04] Riddell: no, the icon for packages that don't have icon === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:11] /win 4 [04:11] err === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-249-148.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:16] well, i put "exec" icon there for now [04:16] that'd be gear in crystal [04:16] i hope :) === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:19] hi folks [04:19] someone here?! [04:19] I've got strange problems on dapper [04:21] mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only [04:21] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, [04:21] missing codepage or other error [04:21] In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try [04:21] dmesg | tail or so [04:21] dmesg | tail : [04:21] [4354302.985000] attempt to access beyond end of device [04:21] [4354302.986000] hdc: rw=0, want=68, limit=4 [04:21] [4354302.986000] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16 [04:22] strange thing is that the DVD player just works when I boot [04:22] reboot === toma_ is now known as toma [04:22] after a while I can't mount my DVD's anymore [04:22] not manual and not auto [04:23] my fstab entry looks like this: [04:23] /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@211.91.14.66] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] mornfall: yes, exec is a good icon for that [04:28] mornfall: I should talk to mvo about getting more icons in app-install-data [04:29] Riddell: yes, that'd be nice [04:29] Riddell: i wanted to ask, should i introduce kde-icons-crystal as dependency to adept? [04:29] maybe i would vote for Recommends [04:30] hmm, I suppose kde-icons-crystal would bring in icons for a lot of apps [04:35] Riddell: I packaged and tested knetworkmanager [04:35] needs a few patches but works :) [04:36] <_Sime_> Riddell: hey. Did you notice that 0.6.3 of guidance is out. [04:36] I'm currently working with Pygi, who is working on networkmanager packages, and we're going to merge our work to get knetworkmanager work perfectly [04:37] joy ^_^ [04:37] Riddell: just that I need to remove the vpn and ppp stuff from it [04:37] Pygi: hehe ;) [04:37] well need to reboot now [04:37] Tonio_: yeah saw that, will try it out at some point (along with wlassistant) [04:37] Pygi: are you in contact with keybuk at all about it? [04:37] _Sime_: yes I did, I'll package it up tomorro [04:37] tomorrow [04:38] Riddel: yup ^_^ [04:38] <_Sime_> Riddell: cool. BTW, I now understand what is happening in systemsetting wrt l10n. === Pygi at least guess so... I think _ion talked with keybuk [04:40] or maybe I could try? [04:40] _Sime_: what's happening? [04:40] <_Sime_> Riddell: it is quite simple really. [04:41] <_Sime_> Riddell: For example. There is no NL or FR translation file for systemsettings. So it uses the default. === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:42] <_Sime_> Riddell: Actually it removes NL/FR from the list of languages that the app can use for translation (KLocale). [04:42] Riddell: if a knetworkmanager package is provided, do you want it to autostart like skim or adept_notifier ? [04:42] <_Sime_> Riddell: So when the modules are loaded, they also specify thier own translation file. BUT! === mornfall notes that notifier now hides if there are no updates ;-) [04:43] <_Sime_> Riddell: it won't get used, because NL/FR have been removed from the list of available languages. [04:43] so now to the wide buttons :'( [04:44] that's a boring task [04:44] <_Sime_> Riddell: Simply put. If systemsettings doesn't have a NL or FR etc translation then KLocale will not mix and match languages in the modules. [04:44] could someone do that for me ? ;-) [04:44] _Sime_: where's the guidance tar? [04:44] <_Sime_> http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/ [04:45] Tonio_:pm pls [04:45] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=840330 [04:54] _Sime_: that's quite nasty of it [04:54] Tonio_: yes, it should autostart [04:55] <_Sime_> Riddell: it is like that to avoid situations like English (L to R) being mixed with Hebrew (R to L). [04:55] <_Sime_> Riddell: it just means we have to get busy translating systemsettings. [04:56] I suppose I could perfecter mon francais [04:56] and you know dutch [04:56] s/mon/ma/ [04:56] <_Sime_> there are not many strings in sysstemsettings. [04:56] <_Sime_> and most of them appear in kcontrol too. (I think). [04:57] and we don't even show the menu bar any more so many aren't used [04:59] <_Sime_> BTW, I think I'm going to rip the "submit a bug report" code out of s-s. [04:59] <_Sime_> it is a hang over from kcontrol. [05:08] I could do the Spanish === faked [n=faked@85-124-45-106.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:13] <_Sime_> I'm not sure if the normal KDE translations teams pick up on programs in KDE SVN playground. [05:20] <_Sime_> hey toma [05:20] hi _Sime_ [05:20] <_Sime_> for Dapper we really need to get systemsettings translated. [05:20] <_Sime_> otherwise, (at the very least) all of the modules use EN. [05:20] <_Sime_> even if they are already translated. [05:21] _Sime_: what localization? [05:21] <_Sime_> nlindblad: localisation and translation of the systemsettings GUI. [05:21] _Sime_: everything running as root here is English [05:21] Adept for example [05:21] _Sime_: if there is a pot, im sure Rinse will translate [05:22] <_Sime_> :-) [05:23] _Sime_: is it in kdesvn or ? [05:23] <_Sime_> do you know what I have to do on a svn and makefile level for this to happen? [05:23] _Sime_: if there is a messages target then it should be extreacted automaticall [05:24] y [05:24] something like: [05:24] messages: rc.cpp [05:24] $(EXTRACTRC) `find . -name \*.ui -o -name \*.rc` > rc.cpp [05:24] $(XGETTEXT) *.cpp -o $(podir)/rsibreak.pot [05:24] Riddell: http://tiber.tauware.de/~jpatrick/debs/guidance-0.6.3/ [05:25] <_Sime_> toma: it appears to only use unsermake. [05:26] <_Sime_> toma: nope, no messages target. [05:27] _Sime_: if you add it to the Makefile.am, then a script will extract it all and put it in the right i18n folder [05:27] <_Sime_> toma: I'll have a closer look. [05:28] you can look at playground/utils/rsibreak/src/Makefile.am as a reference [05:29] <_Sime_> ok [05:29] _Sime_: that means when you package the systemsettings you should iterate over the available languages and fetch the translations and package them with systemsettings [05:31] i can advice using a script like release_rsibreak.rb found in playground/utils/rsibreak to do that automatically [05:34] <_Sime_> toma: why is there a kcontro.po in /trunk/l10n/nl/messages/playground-base/ ? [05:34] <_Sime_> toma: looks a bit weird. [05:34] <_Sime_> toma: also, the Makefile.am already has a messages: rc.cpp line. [05:41] _Sime_: you mean kcontrol.po? [05:42] <_Sime_> toma: there is a kcontrol.po there when I expected to see a systemsettings.po. [05:42] kcontrol.po is also in the templates folder so, there has been a target in the past which created that [05:43] somwhere in bas [05:43] e [05:44] <_Sime_> systemsettings was based on kcontrol. [05:44] ok, maybe something from the past then? forgot to adjust? let me check [05:45] the target is incomplete btw, see my example above [05:46] _Sime_: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/systemsettings/Makefile.am?rev=486339&r1=475778&r2=486339 [05:47] there is a systemsettings template, look at http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n/templates/messages/playground-base/ [05:47] rinse just has not translated it [05:48] i'll remove the kcontrol.pot [05:48] <_Sime_> ok, so it is in order. [05:50] _Sime_: only that it extracts messages from .cpp files, not from .rc files.. [05:50] no idea if that is needed [05:52] <_Sime_> that's ok, there is no text in the *.rc files. [05:57] <_Sime_> Riddell: are you aware of any other programs in KDE's SVN that are not translated? [05:57] <_Sime_> or anybody else here. [05:59] Riddell: ping too ;) [06:09] <_Sime_> toma: ok, I'll have a closer look at that ruby script of yours after dinner. [06:09] _Sime_: ok [06:10] <_Sime_> toma: thanks [06:10] _Sime_: no problem [06:10] <_Sime_> fabo: yes, (I can't pm) === _Sime_|food should register at freenode.... [06:12] _Sime_|food: about linitian init.d-script-does-not-implement-required-option for guidance [06:12] but rake your time to eat ;) [06:12] take === enfact_ [n=enfact@c-24-63-70-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:20] Tonio_: have seen that kNM (you changed wiki) will be now in NM repositories - do you have already a package to test [06:20] Lure: please wait ^_^ [06:20] I am also suspecting that my kNM problems may be related to wpasupplicant (I had it ENABLED in config file) [06:20] Lure: no, you were missing one package ^_^ [06:21] Pygi: which one (it works with nm-applet) [06:21] Lure: l-r-m packages [06:21] Pygi: I do not think so, I have ipw2200 which always worked [06:21] it just stopped today when we were playing with Tonio_ and only with kNM [06:22] I think l-r-m is for madwifi and similar [06:23] Lure: yup, it is... sorry...well, me and Tonio got it workin'... [06:23] for the most part...only ppp more needs removing [06:23] and he got offline :-S === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.183.14] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:40] errm === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-171-87.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:48] Tonio_: hi [06:48] Lure: re [06:48] Lure: I was thinking about making a DapperKNetworkManager page [06:49] same than DapperNetworkManager [06:49] are you fine with it ? [06:49] hi Lure [06:49] why not just add KDE stuff to DapperNetworkManager [06:49] Lure: ask Pygi ;) [06:49] kNM is anyway just front-end [06:50] Pygi: can we just add the info to your wiki page (and I can kill my sub-page) [06:50] Lure: and anyway the knetworkmanager will be on the same repo [06:50] exactly [06:50] Lure: You can Kill your page, and Tonio will make DapperKNetworkManager ;) [06:50] Tonio: about the repos, we need to talk ^_^ [06:51] Pygi: ah ? ;) [06:51] we should just point clearly that users should do appropriate install (knetworkmanager vs. nm-applet) [06:51] NeoChaosX: hi [06:51] Lure: yes [06:51] Tonio: it seems that you will need to host all on your repo, as the current repo is DSL ^_^ [06:51] Tonio: New n-m is in the current repo, waiting for you [06:51] Pygi: do you think we need to have separate page for kNM? I would just add to your DapperNM [06:52] Lure: talk with Tonio_ about that [06:52] Tonio_: You'll have to fetch a few more packages [06:52] like l-r-m package, wpasupplicant 0.4.8, libnl ;) [06:52] Pygi: it is managed with deps [06:53] I should have anything to change [06:53] Pygi: do I ? [06:53] Tonio: yes, I do understand...but we should have it all in repo [06:53] Tonio: yes, fetch it into the repo [06:53] please also fetch all the packages that are in current repo to urs [06:53] Pygi: to me knetworkmanager depends on network-manager which depends on other packages no ? [06:54] Tonio: yup, agreed ^_^ [06:54] Tonio_: but it seems you don't understand me ^_^ [06:54] hum, I removed everything in my repo ;) [06:54] yes, I know ^_^ [06:54]