[03:53] <LaserJock> hi Burgundavia 
[03:54] <Burgundavia> salut LaserJock
[05:24] <Madpilot> busy place today :P
[05:25] <Burgundavia> indeed
[05:25] <Burgundavia> well, I didn't get up until 6pm...
[05:27] <Madpilot> lazy today, Burgundavia?
[05:28] <Burgundavia> indeed
[05:29] <LaserJock> away from terminal?
[05:29] <robotgeek> LaserJock: had quite a bit to drink, don't want to commit anything accidentally :)
[05:29] <LaserJock> lol
[05:30] <Madpilot> drink + command line = not a good thing :P
[05:30] <LaserJock> darn, I don't drink. Does that mean I have to work all the time?
[05:31] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i have not done anything stupid till now when i have had something to drink. i just don't want to start. 
[05:32] <Madpilot> robotgeek, good plan :)
[05:32] <robotgeek> i will probably see if i can write a xslt for the status reports
[05:32] <LaserJock> I'm working, I'm working
[05:33] <LaserJock> I got status tags all in on the packaging guide and added the stuff to the Makefile today 
[05:44] <robotgeek> trappist: ping
[05:44] <robotgeek> trappist: http://www.caliban.org/bash/ (look for pattern-list) to ignore .svn
[06:47] <Burgundavia> salut robitaille
[08:35] <Burgundavia> hmm, my flight 5 burn didn't work. Maybe it is because I am using a blank, pre-printed DiscoverStation cd from work
[08:59] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, you plundering work again?
[09:06] <Burgundavia> just one cd
[09:06] <Burgundavia> I cannot seem to find my cd thing. I think I took it to C's, but she said she doesn't have it
[09:06] <Madpilot> I've got almost 100 blank CD-Rs here, if you're that hard up for blanks...
[09:07] <Burgundavia> mostly I haven't gotten around to getting more
[09:14] <Burgundavia> grumble
[09:14] <Burgundavia> scorched3d just hung my system
[09:15] <Burgundavia> I blame X
[09:38] <Burgundavia> ok, freeciv is painful to play after civ3
[09:38] <Burgundavia> the UI sucks
[09:38] <Burgundavia> and the grpahics suck
[09:40] <Burgundavia> while I am in a rant mood, the new theme reminds me of diarreha
[09:41] <Madpilot> what a lovely image
[09:42] <Madpilot> I assume you mean the Dapper orange/brown theme?
[09:42] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:42] <Burgundavia> light brown
[09:43] <Madpilot> Flight5 was still orange - there's a new theme post-flight5, right?
[09:45] <Burgundavia> it is orange fading towards light brown
[09:52] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6078/myothercomprunsunixcausitskewl.png
[09:53] <Burgundavia> lol
[09:54] <Burgundavia> wow, I love it when OSS games copy old games, bad UI and all
[09:54] <Burgundavia> at least Freeciv created their bad UI all by themselves
[09:55] <Burgundavia> Widelands just copied the UI and graphics from Settlers
[09:59] <mdke> i just started getting lots of email bounces from the list
[10:00] <mdke> anyone know the password?
[10:01] <Madpilot> jerome is our mail admin, isn't he?
[10:02] <Burgundavia> currently, yes
[10:02] <mdke> i think he's added me, but I'm not on the list, nor do I know the password
[10:04] <Burgundavia> he might have only added you as a moderator
[10:04] <mdke> yes
[10:05] <mdke> weird that the list is setup to send bounce emails all the time
[10:13] <Burgundavia> geez, bugs are being filed like made in LP
[10:13] <Burgundavia> in 1 hr, there are have been at least 9 bugs filed
[10:13] <Burgundavia> there is pretty much one bug being filed every ten minutes
[10:18] <Madpilot> is this good or bad?
[10:19] <Burgundavia> means there are a lot of people using Ubuntu
[11:07] <Burgundavia> grumble
[11:07] <Burgundavia> more games crashing my X
[11:08] <Madpilot> Gnome Mines never crashes :P
[11:09] <Burgundavia> full screen apps do
[11:12] <Madpilot> in Dapper?
[11:13] <Burgundavia> likely a bug in upgrading
[11:13] <Burgundavia> plus games with change my resolution erk me
[11:13] <Burgundavia> which change, I should say
[11:38] <Burgundavia> hmm, should a team admin really be allowed to add just about anybody to a team in LP?
[11:39] <Madpilot> what, without asking the other person first?
[11:39] <Madpilot> I know it can be done, I found myself added to the new IRC Operator's team just recently :P
[11:40] <Burgundavia> I just subscribed you to the -ca team
[11:40] <Burgundavia> did you get an email about that?
[11:40] <Madpilot> everyone is subscribing me to everything 
[11:40] <Kaiser_Away> lol
[11:41] <Madpilot> I did get that email, actually
[11:41] <mdke> that is odd, I thought the person had to apply themselves
[11:41] <Madpilot> apparently not
[11:42] <Burgundavia> so did I 
[11:42] <Kaiser_Away> to a list? nah, mailman lets you sub people without telling them
[11:42] <Burgundavia> it should say "X has invited to Y team. Click on this link to subscribe"
[11:42] <Burgundavia> no Launchpad teams
[11:43] <dsas> Burgundavia: Why? It's quicker this way, plus the person can easily unsubscribe right?
[11:43] <Burgundavia> dsas: yes, but there is a potential for abuse
[11:43] <dsas> I'd guess the LP admins would be pretty quick to clamp down on that though
[11:44] <Burgundavia> why not be proactive?
[11:44] <Madpilot> create the "Ubuntu Spam Team", sign the whole of LP up, and fire off all those Viagra emails before you get caught... :P
[11:44] <Burgundavia> you could show "invited members"
[11:46] <dsas> Madpilot: surely there's stuff in place to prevent that kind of abuse though.
[11:46] <Madpilot> dsas, I'd hope so!
[11:46] <Burgundavia> I don't think so
[11:46] <Burgundavia> also, you cannot delete someone from a team, only deactive them
[11:51] <mdke> odd
[11:56] <Burgundavia> bloody hell
[11:59] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: the GDM theme changer is going to need a screenshot for Breezy and earlier and another fro dapper
[11:59] <Madpilot> it's changing drastically for Dapper?
[12:00] <Burgundavia> yes
[12:06] <Burgundavia> I love the AP picture CNN and BBC are using for the voting in Belarus. It is a this pretty 20-ish women wearing red
[12:30] <Madpilot> night all
[12:32] <Burgundavia> salut jsgotangco
[12:34] <jsgotangco> hey
[12:34] <jsgotangco> you haven't been sleeping :/
[12:43] <Burgundavia> me?
[12:44] <mdke> jsgotangco, hi. is it ok if I turn off these bounce emails?
[12:44] <mdke> one per day about pending requests is enough, right?
[12:46] <jsgotangco> yeah
[12:47] <mdke> done, thanks
[12:48] <mdke> jsgotangco, what's the policy for moderation? discard spam, reject off-topic, accept on-topic?
[12:48] <jsgotangco> we rarely get off-topic
[12:48] <jsgotangco> usually discard spam
[12:48] <mdke> there is an off-topic now
[12:50] <jsgotangco> hmm that's a rarity
[12:50] <jsgotangco> its usually cross-post
[12:50] <mdke> i'd reject that, with an appropriate message
[12:50] <jsgotangco> most of spam we get are from east asian domains
[12:50] <mdke> it's a bit problematic to accept on-topic stuff because the sender might not read the list and won't see the answer
[12:54] <jsgotangco> mdke: why change a TB decision?
[12:55] <mdke> what decision?
[12:56] <Burgundavia> mdke: the time decision
[12:56] <mdke> afaics they just slid all the freezes back. corey posted that they wanted feedback from us on the date of the freeze, we gave it.
[12:57] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: they made the dicision without really talking to us
[12:57] <jsgotangco> the new doc string freeze is may 4
[12:57] <mdke> i don't think they considered the doc freeze specifically
[12:57] <Burgundavia> they didn't listen to me when I told them we didn't need that much time
[12:57] <jsgotangco> mdke's email indicated may 6?
[12:58] <jsgotangco> maybe you mean april 6?
[12:58] <mdke> yes, corrected
[12:58] <Burgundavia> how do I comment out a large section in moin?
[12:58] <jsgotangco> afaic be it april 6 will be a self imposed freeze and we don't have to be collegial about it
[12:59] <mdke> what does collegial mean?
[12:59] <mdke> Burgundavia, each line, I think.
[12:59] <Burgundavia> ugh
[12:59] <mdke> or save it locally and delete it on the wiki
[01:00] <Burgundavia> that is doable. I have also asked in #moin
[01:00] <mdke> good idea, maybe there is a way
[01:01] <jsgotangco> mdke: imo, if the group is given until may 4, let the writers utilize the extra time if they want to
[01:01] <jsgotangco> if a manuscript is done earlier, so much the better then move it to rosetta
[01:02] <mdke> jsgotangco, no offence, but the group was unanimously against that at the meeting
[01:03] <jsgotangco> mdke: its just my opinion
[01:03] <Burgundavia> I went for the third way, leave a giant note on teh page about the table being broken
[01:03] <mdke> heh
[01:04] <Burgundavia> it is only on live.gnome, so it matters less
[01:04] <Burgundavia> http://live.gnome.org/EducationSuite 
[01:04] <Burgundavia> if anybody wants to fix it
[01:04] <jsgotangco> just don't complain if we decided to go gung-ho for edubuntu though :)
[01:05] <mdke> sure, no one has suggested the freeze will apply to edubuntu
[01:05] <mdke> last cycle, it didn't even apply to kubuntu, now though kubuntu-docs is going to be translated, so the freeze applies
[01:05] <Burgundavia> each release we pull more and more into our embrace *maniacal laughter*
[01:06] <Burgundavia> sorry, it is 4am here. I should sleep now
[01:06] <Burgundavia> good night all
[01:07] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia: yeah one day, we'll just be surprised we're handling 10 flavours
[01:10] <Atreju> hello veryone
[01:11] <Atreju> got a problem with hotplug after a clean installation
[01:13] <Atreju> it hangs on boot and will not proceed and it drives me crazy 
[01:14] <mdke> Atreju, #ubuntu can help
[01:14] <mdke> if you use ubuntu
[01:15] <Atreju> jup in there now
[01:15] <Atreju> thanx
[10:02] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/ScreenShots
[10:02] <Burgundavia> hmm
[10:03] <Burgundavia> we really should create a place where we can store the screenshots from our repo
[11:54] <robertj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/Desktop <- can screenshots be taken now or do we need to wait for art freeze?
[11:56] <Burgundavia> robertj: it is going to go on the website shortly, so they have to be breezy screenshots
[11:56] <robertj> ohh