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andrewskirysiek|pl: cheers12:03
djk_ompaul: i know that. but when someone states, in here, that having a root account is a bad idea, i do think an explanation in here is needed.12:03
rysiek|plhi12:03
noirequusdjk_: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please12:03
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Kyralmeh screw XGL12:07
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Kyraltoo buggy for my tastes12:07
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schoremXGL is fun, workt fine for me12:08
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schoremJust installed Kubuntu dapper drake flight 5, so far so good12:08
Kyralschorem: I couldn't login to Kopete because somehow the dialog for KWallet wasn't popping up right12:08
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schoremI have to say I did get it working on GNOME12:08
Kyraland it still ****s up my media players...so no anime (which is a breaker for me :P)12:09
frank__Kyral: use kaffeine-xine   everything works for me12:09
schoremDidn't have that problem. I posted some small tutorial on ubuntux.org12:09
schoremAlso a screenshot12:10
Kyralfrank__: Don12:10
Kyrale12:10
frank__Kyral: oh your problem is with xgl?12:10
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Kyralfrank__: yah :D12:10
frank__Kyral: ok12:10
schoremKyral: How did u install?12:11
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Kyralwith the XGL Howto on Wiki.Ubuntu12:11
schoremI followed the tut on ubuntuforums12:11
schoremworks fine12:11
Kyralvideo playing?12:11
schoremyep12:12
Kyralhmm12:12
Kyrallink :P12:12
schoremeven transparent windows12:12
schoremsee screener: http://www.debianforum.nl/wiki/index.php/Afbeelding:Schorems_xgl.png12:13
frank23maybe a video driver issue?12:13
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E-Trainis there anyway to check traffic on port 80. It seems like i have a really burpey connection. traffic on other ports like 6667 are fine. Any tips?12:15
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E-Trainis there anyway to check traffic on port 80. It seems like i have a really burpey connection. traffic on other ports like 6667 are fine. Any tips?12:17
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E-Trainis there anyway to check traffic on port 80. It seems like i have a really burpey connection. traffic on other ports like 6667 are fine. Can anyone help?12:19
Kyraloy kinda sketchy12:20
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noirequus!repeat12:20
noirequusE-Train: repeating isn't gonna get an answer any quicker, and just floods the channel12:21
uboturumour has it, repeat is Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.12:22
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KyralHmm some of the shortcuts no work12:24
noirequusKyral: did you get my /msg ?12:25
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Kyralnoirequus: no///12:25
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kbrooksiskde easy?12:25
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kbrooksis kde easy?12:25
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frank23kbrooks: what do you mean? kde is different. some like it better12:27
Kyralhmm12:28
KyralI think I need to jack up the min FPS12:28
Kyralforget it12:29
Kyralits a nice show, but too much trouble12:29
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kbrooksWhat nice show?12:30
KyralXGL12:30
kbrooksah?12:30
_philwho knows how to make a kubuntu instal disk12:30
_phil?12:30
frank23_phil: you download the image and then burn it. did you download it?12:31
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_philum were can i download the image12:32
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frank23!iso12:32
ubotuiso is probably download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto12:32
souldaddyquestion:  so i downloaded some software i want to install.  how do i import it with adept?  or does adept search ALL my files?12:33
frank23souldaddy: adept can only install software which is in the ubuntu repository12:33
frank23souldaddy: anything that is not there you have to install manually. what did you want to install?12:34
souldaddywell, i downloaded flash from macromedia, but then i realized its in the repository already12:36
frank23souldaddy: did you enable universe and multiverse?12:36
souldaddyya12:36
souldaddywell i think i did :)  i followed the instructions how12:37
frank23souldaddy: you must have because I think flash is in multiverse12:37
souldaddyya12:37
souldaddyso i mean, like what software isn't in the respository?  lol12:37
souldaddyi've been randomly searching stuff and i cant find anything thats not in here12:37
frank23souldaddy: mostly commercial software and some lesser used programs12:38
arrinmurrcinelerra :/12:39
souldaddyso frank23 :  i have these java IDE's on a cd that came with my school textbook.  it says they have linux IDE'S on here, and other stuff.  how would i go about installing that?12:40
frank23souldaddy: things like sun java, w32codecs, libdvdcss are commonly used but cannot be distributed by ubuntu. you can find other repositories for them though12:40
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souldaddylike what does that mean12:40
souldaddythis is someone who's been using linux for the last 45 minutes12:40
souldaddythe only 45 minutes of linux i've ever seen :O12:40
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frank23souldaddy: hehe ;)  libdvdcss is needed for playing dvds, w32codecs for playing closed video formats like wmv12:41
Dasnipa`java.sun.com will have the java IDEs and stuff12:41
frank23!tell souldaddy about restricted12:42
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Dasnipa`while we're at it...12:42
Pyrobobhow do Iu ninstall cvswinex?12:42
Dasnipa`!tell souldaddy about sudo12:43
souldaddyhaha12:43
souldaddyi love the !tell12:43
souldaddyi think its slightly humorous.  but probably saves you guys a lot of time12:43
frank23souldaddy: it does. everyone has the same questions12:43
PyrobobI don't have a source file I installed cvswinex from. I used a script that I ran with the shell. how would I uninstall it?12:44
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frank23Pyrobob: was installed using a make install  command at the end?12:44
souldaddyahah12:44
Pyrobobdon't think so12:44
frank23Pyrobob: how was it installed exactly?12:45
Pyrobobcd Desktop12:45
Pyrobob./GetCVSWineX.sh12:45
Pyroboblet the script do all the work12:45
Pyrobobthink it did the "make install" for me12:45
Pyrobobbecause I didn't haev to12:45
Pyrobobhave*12:45
frank23Pyrobob: you never used sudo or su anywhere?12:45
Pyroboboh yeah sry12:46
Pyrobobwas logged in as su12:46
Pyrobobwhen I did it12:46
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jhronline#gay12:46
jhronlinelol12:46
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Pyrobobso...12:47
frank23Pyrobob: I'm not sure...  if you can't find a uninstall script of some sort, look in  /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib  for the files it would have installed. simply deleting them might be ok12:47
Pyrobobalrighty12:48
Pyrobobim too lazy to search for an uninstall script... *clears the files manually*12:48
frank23Pyrobob: hopefully they are in /usr/local12:48
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Pyrobobfrank23: um... I've got like 14 icons that say wine... unsure whats what12:49
Pyrobobfrank23: just clear all the "wine" icons and re-install what I need?12:49
frank23Pyrobob: do look in /usr/local with a terminal12:50
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frank23Pyrobob: you will need sudo to remove those files. delete only within /usr/local12:51
Pyroboblooking in it with Konqueror12:51
Pyroboband its telling me "no such device" with the konsole12:51
Pyrobobterminal*12:51
frank23Pyrobob: cd /usr/local12:51
Pyrobobshould I do it as root, then?12:51
Pyroboboh there it goes12:52
frank23Pyrobob: only root can delete yeah12:52
Pyrobobsry put urs  lol12:52
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Pyrobobthere's stuff like "uninstaller" and "wcmd" in /usr/local/bin12:55
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PyrobobI haven't got a clue what their to12:55
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Pyrobobshould I delete them? or no12:55
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frank23Pyrobob: try and see if they are related to winex12:56
frank23Pyrobob: run wcmd to see what it does12:57
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souldaddyso a sort of side question.... whats different from kubuntu vs like redhat?  or suse?  or any of the others?12:57
frank23souldaddy: kubuntu is based on debian. it uses the same package management as debian: apt.   redhat and suse both use rpm12:58
souldaddyah12:58
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frank23souldaddy: kubuntu has a fixed 6 months release cycle so programs are always relatively recent12:59
Pyrobobfrank23: well, when I deleted them, none of the wine programs worked. which is good01:00
Pyrobobfrank23: so, ima re-install wine and see if it will finally want to work right01:00
Dasnipa`cedega > wine01:01
Pyrobobwould crossover office run without wine?01:01
bjeffI have trouble with my network and internet connection. seems kubuntu forgets or cannot set default gateway to 10.0.0.1, and this is really annoying. Help!01:01
Pyrobobor is it based to run on wine?01:01
frank23Pyrobob: You can get the latest wine using the wine deb repository01:01
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Pyrobobisn'01:01
frank23Pyrobob: yes crossover office runs without wine.01:01
Pyrobobt01:01
Pyrobobthat wine 0.9.8?01:01
Dasnipa`im excited for wine to come out with a 1.001:02
frank23Pyrobob: crossover is based on wine but it all sefl-contained01:02
Pyrobobah01:02
Pyrobobbecause that was working fine, and I was wondering why photoshop ran fine but wine wouldn't01:02
bjeffarg01:03
frank23Pyrobob: Wine 0.9.10 is the latest01:03
Pyroboboh because I had a tarball of 9.801:03
Pyrobob0.9.8*01:03
frank23Pyrobob: crossover automatically handles all the special tweaks wine needs for different programs01:03
PyrobobI see01:04
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frank23Pyrobob: deb line for the latest wine:   deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/01:05
souldaddyfrank23: thanks =p01:05
frank23souldaddy: np01:06
Pyrobobalready got wine installed01:06
Pyroboband its not giving me the gay error message!01:06
Pyrobobn.n01:07
frank23Pyrobob: what do you mean? used to be an error message?01:07
Pyrobobyeah01:07
Pyroboblemme find it...01:07
Pyrobobhad it pasted somewhere01:07
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frank23Pyrobob: probably because the wine in /usr/local/bin is run before the one in /usr/bin01:08
Pyrobobprobably had somthing to do with winex01:08
Pyroboband cvswinex01:08
Pyrobobbecause cvswinex worked before I started screwing with it01:08
Pyrobobto get rid of it01:08
Pyroboband that screwed up winex01:09
Pyroboband winex screwed up wine... so yeah. there was an error message01:09
Pyroboba few, ratehr01:09
Pyrobobrather* lol01:09
Pyrobobcouldn't even do a proper "make uninstall" for winex01:09
Pyrobobwould get error messages for that01:09
ompaul!enter01:10
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.01:10
frank23Pyrobob: yeah...  anyways always try to install with apt or from a .deb.  If you need to compile, use checkinstall instead of make install01:10
Pyrobobfrank23: sure thing! had to put up with the crap for too long. might as well not start with it, right?01:11
Pyroboblol01:11
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frank23gotta go.01:14
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Pyrobobwhere can I get the mozilla activeX plugin?01:16
PyrobobI tried installing GunZ with Wine and it asks for it01:16
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ubuntu!Question   I'm new here,,,  what I'm I to expect here?!02:26
ubotuubuntu: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:26
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MortalmanJust downloaded kubuntu 5 DVD via bittorrent, popped it in.  Did the integrity check. All seems good, but it fails at "loading installer files" or something to that extent.  Any ideas?02:37
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Yonah|newbieI'm wondering if there is a messenger that can be used with the K environment that allows webcam and audio chat?02:42
Yonah|newbieAnyone have any idea?02:42
Yonah|newbieI'm VERY new to Linux altogether, and especially new to Kubuntu. ;)02:42
MortalmanGood question. No idea. lol02:42
MortalmanLet me know if you find one.02:42
Yonah|newbieI'm trying to break away from Windows, but it's hard 'cause I use Yahoo Messenger with Voice Chat all the time....02:42
Yonah|newbieNo doubt... I'll be looking. ;)02:43
Yonah|newbieif Yahoo has a suitable program for Linux, I don't know how to install it....02:43
Yonah|newbielol02:43
Yonah|newbieI don't know how to install ANYTHING. ;)02:43
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: kopete supports webcams at least for msn, not sure about yahoo02:44
Yonah|newbieI guess I'm supposed to open an X Window and type in something with "sudo..."02:44
Mortalmangaim is working on it.  Should be in their next release.02:44
Yonah|newbieI haven't seen the option on kopete.02:44
Yonah|newbieand i've received alerts from friends on msn who wanted to chat with cam, and nothing came through.02:44
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: what version of kopete?02:44
Yonah|newbiei did the most recent update.02:45
Yonah|newbielet me check02:45
Mortalmanarrinmurr: ubuntu vs. kubuntu.  Are they about the same as far is visualy stimulation? lol02:45
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_slashhey guys02:46
Yonah|newbieIt's 0.10.402:46
_slashi have a question02:46
Yonah|newbieI assume that's the most up-to-date, right?02:46
Yonah|newbiehey, slash... i'm NOT the person to ask. ;)02:46
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: ok, you'll need KDE 3.5.1 http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php02:46
_slashi'm actually using kde for kubuntu..02:46
Yonah|newbieoh02:46
Yonah|newbiearrinmurr... i don't know how to INSTALL anything. ;)02:47
_slashyesterday I downloaded gnome and some other stuff02:47
_slashbut now, my desktop is gnome/gdm02:47
_slashhow do I change it back to kde?02:47
Yonah|newbie??02:47
Yonah|newbieI don't even know how to log in as root. ;)02:47
Yonah|newbielol02:47
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: well that's not difficult02:47
Yonah|newbiehow do i do it?02:48
arrinmurrMortalman: err... i don't know. i haven't used gnome for a while ;)02:48
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arrinmurrYonah|newbie: press alt + f2 , type "kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"02:49
Yonah|newbieI have the Konsole Shell (X Window?).02:49
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: press alt + f2 , type "kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"02:49
Mortalmanscreenshot URLs for both?02:49
Yonah|newbiewhat is that, arrinmurr?02:49
arrinmurrMortalman: just look for screenshots of gnome and kde ;)02:50
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arrinmurrMortalman: both of them can look pretty much just like you want them02:51
arrinmurrMortalman: see http://lynucs.org/?gnome and http://lynucs.org/?kde02:51
Mortalmank02:51
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Yonah|newbiearrinmurr: what is that file "sources.list" that you had me open?02:51
Yonah|newbiewb, slash02:51
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: you have it open?02:51
Yonah|newbieyes02:51
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: there's all the package repositories - there you can define where ubuntu gets it packages (programs)02:52
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Yonah|newbiehell if that doesn't just confuse me. ;)02:52
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: and now you're going to add KDE 3.5.1 there02:52
Yonah|newbiehow do i do that?02:53
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: were you asked for a password?02:53
Yonah|newbieno02:53
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Yonah|newbiein fact, most of it says "restricted"02:53
Yonah|newbie" deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted "02:53
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: then do it again the way i said later, corrected02:53
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Yonah|newbie... oh02:54
Yonah|newbiei didn't see the corrected version.02:54
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: press alt + f2 , type "kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"02:54
Yonah|newbiesame02:55
oxezOkay, I'm running ubuntu, now I installed 'kubuntu-desktop'. Everything went fine, I configured my desktop. There is one thing: mounted partitions don't show up on desktop. They're also not in konki when I type 'media:/' in the address bar. Do I need to configure something else to get those things to work properly? (For the mounted drives on the desktop, I already checked the option, still doesnt work)02:55
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: i said it first without "kdesu". with kdesu you should have been asked for a password, but if you weren't, let's just continue then02:55
Yonah|newbielol - no request...02:56
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oxez(sorry) :/02:56
Yonah|newbieoxez: welcome back02:56
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: but you did do it with kdesu?02:56
Yonah|newbieyes02:56
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: ok. good.02:56
Yonah|newbiei ented 'kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list' in the run command window.02:57
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: ok02:57
Yonah|newbieentered*02:58
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: hmm.. wait a moment02:58
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: you can delete everything that's in there, and put this there instead http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/61171703:00
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: i mean, the text you can find there :)03:00
Yonah|newbieof course03:00
Yonah|newbielol03:00
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arrinmurrYonah|newbie: and then save the file03:01
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: and you had already updated your system somehow, right?03:01
Yonah|newbiewhat will that do?03:01
Yonah|newbieyes03:01
Yonah|newbieI saved the file with the pasted text03:02
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arrinmurrYonah|newbie: good. that will add the necessary package sources for KDE 3.5.1 - and also some other stuff03:02
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: actually, to be on the safe side, open that text file again the same way you did before03:03
Yonah|newbieok, i'm opening it.03:03
Yonah|newbieit's open.03:03
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arrinmurrYonah|newbie: and put # in front of the last two deb-lines03:03
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Yonah|newbieandre__: welcome03:03
Yonah|newbie__mikem: welcome03:04
Yonah|newbieok03:04
__mikemCould someone help, I got locked out of the ubuntu chanel, on account of some guy is using some exploit over there03:04
Yonah|newbieeven though the next-to-last one is the KDE 3.5.1?03:04
__mikemoh, hey Yonah03:04
Yonah|newbiedo i need to reboot in order for anything to change?03:04
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: then save, and update your system again. after that reboot. then open up the file again, and take # away from the last two deb-lines. then save, and update your system again. then reboot, and you should be in KDE 3.5.1 with the latest Kopete :)03:05
Yonah|newbiegood grief!03:05
Yonah|newbiei don't even remember how to update... lol03:05
Yonah|newbiewasn't it... sudo apt-get update ??03:06
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: first sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:06
Yonah|newbiedoesn't that take like an hour?03:06
Yonah|newbielol03:06
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: depends on your internet connection of course03:07
Yonah|newbiecable03:07
Yonah|newbiei'm doing the update now03:07
Yonah|newbieit's just the upgrade that seems to take forever03:07
Yonah|newbiethe update is damn-near done03:08
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Yonah|newbieok, now that the update is done, i go back to the file and take away those two #'s that I put in?03:08
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: did you run dist-upgrade already?03:08
Yonah|newbienot yet ;)03:09
oxezany1 have an idea?03:09
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: sudo apt-get update only updates the list of new available versions programs. dist-upgrade installs them03:09
arrinmurrYonah|newbie: so with update, you didn't really do much yet ;)03:10
Yonah|newbiearrinmurr: do i need to leave the #'s until after i do the upgrade?03:12
__mikemhey arrinmurr some guy has discovered an exploit in the irc server and managed to lock me and several other people out of the ubuntu chanel, I know this to be the case because I saw it happen to several other people before it happened to me03:12
Yonah|newbiedist-upgrade*03:12
__mikemdo you know how I would go about getting back in03:12
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Yonah|ignorantarrinmurr: I have it ready with the dist-upgrade command typed in, ready to hit Enter. Should I hit it?03:12
Yonah|ignorantnevermind... you said "reboot"03:12
Yonah|ignoranti'll be right back03:12
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Kaiser_Awaynetsplit03:13
__mikemThats persicely how I got locked out of the other chat room03:13
Kaiser_Awaywhich one?03:14
__mikemubuntu03:14
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__mikemsome guy is using some exploit03:14
__mikeminvolving DCC SEND03:14
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__mikemnow every time I try to join, it says the chanel is invite only03:14
Kaiser_Awayyeh. /msg amaranth and ask him to invite you in03:15
__mikemok, I PMed him03:16
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__mikemthe problem is, hes not in here03:16
Kaiser_Awayno, he's in #ubuntu03:17
KaoticEvilhey Kaiser_Away :)03:17
__mikemthen how do I pm him im if I am in here03:17
Kaiser_Awayhi KaoticEvil03:17
Snake__hey Kaiser_Away03:17
Kaiser_Away__mikem: he just lifted the  invite only03:17
__mikemok03:17
Snake____mikem: you can PM anyone on the network anywhere03:18
__mikemOK03:18
Snake__...03:18
__mikemwhat was03:18
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__mikemthat CTCP thing03:18
KaoticEvilhey Kaiser_Away... whats your opinion... im rebuilding my kernel... should i go with the vanilla sources or the ubuntu sources?03:20
Snake__vanilla sounds good...mmmm03:21
Kaiser_AwayKaoticEvil: ubuntu sources if possible03:21
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KaoticEvillol Snake__03:21
feensdoes compiz-kde + xgl work in dapper?03:21
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KaoticEvilKaiser_Away: any particular reason? (other than the fact that it's an official ubuntu package?)03:21
KaoticEvilshouldnt it be the same sources?03:21
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Kaiser_AwayKaoticEvil: there will be some patches the ubuntu people apply to make it integrate etter03:22
KaoticEvilah, ok03:22
arrinmurrjesusfish: you need to use compiz-gnome (gnome-window-decorator)03:22
Kaiser_Awayi think slackware and LFS are the only distros with vanila kernels03:22
jesusfisharrinmurr: hmm...what's the compiz-kde package then?03:23
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arrinmurrjesusfish: it's the package that brings kde-window-decorator, which doens't work ;)03:23
arrinmurrjesusfish: ...yet, anyway03:24
jesusfisharrinmurr: ah, I see...guess I'll just have to wait03:24
arrinmurrjesusfish: well, i'm running xgl+compiz fine with gnome-window-decorator03:24
jesusfisharrinmurr: don't I lose my kde windecs then?03:25
enfactyeah it wont work with kde03:25
enfactalready tried :)03:25
enfactbut i installed xgl for gnome, then installed kubuntu-desktop03:25
__mikem!xgl03:26
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/03:26
__mikemubotu good bot03:26
ubotuthanks __mikem :)03:26
arrinmurrjesusfish: well yeah, but it does work under kde03:26
Snake__Ugh why are people so stupid... "i just watched doom 3 it was a great movie" ... 1) Doom sucked. 2) There is no "Doom 3" movie03:27
Snake__gahh03:27
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jesusfisharrinmurr: how much work to setup xgl/comiz-gnome/gnome-window-manager on KDE?03:27
__mikemubotu lart Snake__03:28
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arrinmurrjesusfish: not much03:28
jesusfishhmm....tempting....03:28
__mikem!lart jesusfish03:28
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ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.03:28
Snake__aka __mikem , stop03:29
jesusfishguess I should upgrade to dapper first03:29
__mikemlol ok03:29
arrinmurrjesusfish: compiz-gnome has quite a lot of gnome-dependencies though. but i wrote them down and i'll just remove them along with compiz-gnome when compiz-kde starts working ;)03:29
jesusfisharrinmurr: ya, I figured that much03:29
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jesusfishlets see how bad upgrading to dapper is03:31
arrinmurrjesusfish: you'll face less problems with a clean install, probably03:31
jesusfisharrinmurr: more than likely03:32
jesusfisharrinmurr: but then I have to worry about backing stuff up03:32
jesusfishhmm....interesting....apparently I lose KDE then03:33
KaoticEvilis it better to statically build options into the kernel or build them as modules?03:34
Kaiser_Awaydepends what it is03:35
__mikemHow in gods name was I banned from debian-bots I haven't even been there in a while03:35
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Kaiser_Awaymost stuff modules is best (vido driver for example)03:35
__mikembrb03:35
KaoticEvilso that if/when you change your video card, you can just remove the old module, compile a new one, and plug it into the kernel, right?03:36
Kaiser_AwayKaoticEvil: or tehres a module update03:36
Kaiser_Awaybut that's basicly the idea, yes03:36
KaoticEvilok03:36
Kaiser_Awaythe other option is recompile your kernel every time you want to change something :)03:36
KaoticEvilwell, i wont be changing the video card in this computer *ever* again03:36
Kaiser_Awaywhich is fine on a server, but not a desktop03:36
KaoticEvilin fact, the only thing im going to do to this system is change out the CDROM for a DVD/CDRW combo drive03:37
KaoticEviland thats gonna be tuesday, probably03:37
Kaiser_Awaydo vidoe as a module, most other stuff can be static in/out03:37
KaoticEvilin fact, once i get that drive in here, i'll probably just backup my ~ dir and reinstall.03:38
Kaiser_Awayand if you do vid as a module, *mae sure you alow loadable modules in the kernel*03:38
KaoticEvili want to change my partitioning around... and the last time i did it while it was running, it was a SERIOUS pain03:38
Kaiser_Awayi konow what it's like, i went througt that when i dropped my 300~ gig of NTFS (over 15~ partitons) to go 100% ext303:39
Kaiser_Away(over 4 partitions)03:40
KaoticEvilexactly03:40
KaoticEvilwell, right now, ive got / and /home/kao/data03:41
Kaiser_Awayi share your pain brother :)03:41
KaoticEviland a swapspace.03:41
KaoticEvili want /, /home, /boot and swap03:41
jesusfishhmmm...why would KDE be removed on a dist-upgrade from breezy->dapper?03:41
KaoticEviland maybe /usr as well03:41
Kaiser_Awayjesusfish: what part of KDE?03:41
jesusfishKaiser_Away: ah, most of it03:41
Kaiser_AwayKaoticEvil: don't bother with /usr03:42
Kaiser_Awayjesusfish: do you have Kubuntu-desktop installed?03:42
jesusfishKaiser_Away: not sure, it's been a while03:42
Kaiser_Awayjesusfish: make sure it's installed, then try the upgrade again03:42
jesusfishah, screw it...I'll get it all sorted out03:43
jesusfishlol03:43
Kaiser_Awayo_0 wha?03:44
jesusfishwhat version of alsa is in dapper?03:44
jesusfishhmm, guess I could just browse the repository03:45
Kaiser_Awayalsa utils 1.0.1003:45
jesusfishah, 714KB/s03:45
Kaiser_Away:/03:45
arrinmurrjesusfish: doing a dist-upgrade now?03:47
jesusfisharrinmurr: yup03:47
arrinmurrjesusfish: good luck :)03:47
jesusfisharrinmurr: we'll see what kind of state it leaves me in03:47
Kaiser_Awayjesusfish: if you needed kuubuntu-desktop and don't have it, i give you no sympaty :)03:48
jesusfishKaiser_Away: I can just install it after03:48
Kaiser_Awayi recoment before, but your call ;)03:48
jesusfishKaiser_Away: if I lose KDE for period of time it won't be the end of the word03:49
jesusfishworld*03:49
Kaiser_Awayjesusfish: some of us live our lives without it :)03:49
jesusfishI have my Mac if I don't feel like fixing it right away03:49
Kaiser_Away<grin> i hav vim03:50
jesusfishhehe03:50
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Kaiser_Awaybbl. doing stuff :)03:51
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_bernardGood nite, this is my first try on an irc. I wish to seek support for a problem on my Acer Travelmate 2201 LCi that runs very hot. and the acpi seems not to work.03:56
Kaiser_Away_bernard:  try asking in #ubuntu-laptop if you have no luck here. bbl03:57
_bernardThx. Since I am totally new to irc, I hve to add the #ubuntu-laptop to the list?03:58
arrinmurr_bernard: just try to click on it03:59
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_bernardThx arrinmurr for the info. Iwill try04:02
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martanyone know enough spanish to know what "cafe en grano" is?04:03
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Yonah|backarrinmurr: So, I think I have the latest version now.... I did an update through Synaptic...04:05
arrinmurrYonah|back: what's your kopete version now then?04:06
Yonah|backBut, it is still version 0.11.1 (rather, than 0.10.4).04:06
Yonah|backThat's the most recent one it will update to.04:06
Yonah|backI had to go through hell to get it to update that! LOL04:06
Yonah|backAnd I don't see an option for webcam, still.04:06
arrinmurrYonah|back: that's the latest i think04:06
arrinmurrYonah|back: it should be in the preferences window04:07
Yonah|backi don't see a preferences window either.04:07
Yonah|backarrinmurr: sorry i'm so dense04:07
Yonah|backi'm VERY new to linux ;)04:07
arrinmurrYonah|back: settings -> preferences or something? but if your webcam is plugged in, you should unplug it before opening that04:08
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arrinmurrYonah|back: or settings -> configure kopete. i don't quite remember what it is04:08
Yonah|backI found it04:09
Yonah|backIt uses the old NetMeeting program that was on older versions of MSN.04:09
Yonah|backI don't know if it will be compatible.04:09
Yonah|backconfigure plugins04:10
arrinmurrYonah|back: err.. so did you get a screen where you should see your webca image?04:11
Yonah|backnot yet04:12
arrinmurrYonah|back: did you look in settings -> configure kopete.. or something?04:12
Yonah|backactually, the damn machine is not even picking up my webcam.04:13
arrinmurrYonah|back: what is your webcam exactly?04:14
Yonah|backveo stingray04:14
arrinmurrYonah|back: hmm.. i think it should work04:15
arrinmurrYonah|back: however, the webcam drivers are broken in ubuntu (unless they've been just fixed). you should follow this howto to fix them http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=407656&postcount=104:17
Yonah|backLOL - nothing comes easily with Linux!04:17
KaoticEvilwell hell.04:17
crrjAh, but the satisfaction when you figure out what it is doing / not doing, and have a better understanding of the system.04:17
KaoticEvili cant even find the ndiswrapper option on this kernel source. i cant use it then.04:18
arrinmurrYonah|back: well, you just have to copy & paste those lines, and after that all the webcams in this list http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html should work - can you do that as easily in windows? :)04:18
Yonah|backsame file?04:18
Yonah|backnope... in the x window, i guess.04:19
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_bernardI was there 20 mins ago, seeking assistance about my acer laptop running abnormally hot. Someone suggested #ubuntu-laptop. Nobody replied to my query there.04:19
arrinmurrYonah|back: err.. yeah, in a terminal window04:19
_bernardmart "cafe en grano" means coffe beans04:21
mart_bernard: thanks, google said "grains" and that didn't really help distinguish between beans and ground coffee :(04:22
_bernardSorry mart I could not help u04:23
crrjGround coffee works better for brewing, whole beans are better covered in chocolate ;D04:23
mart_bernard: no, you have :)04:23
martyeah, I want beans - but fancy some torrefacto, which I don't seem to be able to buy here.04:23
_bernardmart , Do u know how I can get help about my acer travelmate 2201 lci running too hot?04:24
crrjit could be a physical problem with the fan04:24
mart_bernard: what' sort of cpu does it have?04:24
crrjor does it work properly in other OSes?04:25
_bernardcrrj, the unit runs very cool under windows. It has 2 fans, and they cycle according to the temp correctly04:25
Yonah|backarrinmurr: there is a line there that appears to have no command ('tar xvfz spca5xx...')04:25
mart_bernard: what kind of cpu? grep model.name /proc/cpuinfo04:26
arrinmurrYonah|back: what do you mean?04:26
Yonah|backnevermind... it's going04:26
arrinmurrYonah|back: tar is a command :)04:27
_bernardmart, I have an intel Celeron D330 processor at 2.66Ghz04:27
mart_bernard: the cpudyn and powernowd packages can be used to slow your processor when it isn't doing much, but I don't know which to use for that04:28
mart_bernard: I guess powernowd would work - since that supports most things.04:29
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PyrobobI got a question about steam04:31
PyrobobI installed it with Crossover Office04:31
Pyroboband it works fine until I login04:31
Pyrobobit takes me to an "update" window04:32
Pyrobobor somthing like that. says cancel at the bottom right04:32
Pyrobobbut it freezes there04:32
Pyrobobdoesn't even show text04:32
Pyrobobany ideas?04:33
_bernardmart, How do i check to see if powernowd is installed or running04:33
mart_bernard: installed? dpkg -l pownernowd04:34
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mart_bernard: what does that say?04:34
mart_bernard: you should also check that you have a directory called something like /proc/acpi/throttling04:35
_bernardmart it says ii powernowd 0.96-2ubuntu1...04:36
mart_bernard: ok, so it's installed ...04:39
_bernardmart, you seem to be very busy. I appreciate your help. I will do some research on powernowd. Have a good nite04:39
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_bernardMart, yu r still there. ok04:40
mart_bernard: you can check if it's running using ps aux |grep powernow04:40
oxezhi, I installed the amarok kubuntu package version 1.4beta2, and now my songs starts a bit too fast (The first second is played in .5 second). Is there a way to fix that?04:40
Pyroboband I take it no one has an answer to my question...04:42
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_bernardmart , it is embarassing that i cannot give the command correctly apparently04:44
mart_bernard: try ps -C powernowd04:44
mart_bernard: if you get more than line of output, then it's running already04:45
_bernardmart, to ps -C I got one line of reply04:47
mart_bernard: this ?"  PID TTY          TIME CMD"04:47
martnothing else?04:47
_bernardmart I got exactly that nothing else04:48
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mart_bernard: you can copy and paste from the terminal?04:48
_bernardmart, yes i can. But I read an hour ago it was not welcome here. I do not want to offend anyone04:49
mart_bernard: one or two lines is normally fine04:50
marthmmm04:50
_bernardbernard@ubuntu:~$ ps -C powenowd04:50
_bernard  PID TTY          TIME CMD04:50
mart_bernard: yeah, can you join #flood ? (click the name)04:51
mart_bernard: and paste the output of:  ls /proc/acpi04:52
_bernardmart , I did it.04:53
mart_bernard: this is on the laptop, right?04:53
_bernardmart , yes this is the laptop in question04:54
_bernardmart I checked the content of thermal_zone and it was empty04:55
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mart_bernard: well, you may be able to persuade your fan to be a bit more proactive...04:59
mart_bernard: ah, try this04:59
_bernardmart. I sent you the result of ls /proc/acpi/thermal_zone04:59
martcat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling04:59
_bernardmart, the answer was "not supported"05:02
mart_bernard: oh.  that doesn't sound good.05:03
_bernardmart, point me to some documentation I will gladly read and try to fix it05:03
_bernardMart, my email is bcelestin@direcway.com05:04
mart_bernard:  www.google.com  -  sorry, I really can't think of a better way to start05:04
_bernardmart, thx very much for help. Have a good nite05:05
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mart_bernard: thanks, sorry I can't be of any help - I struggled enough with my own laptop, and I've been using linux for over 10 years :(05:06
Red_Herringkubuntu for laptops ROCKS05:06
martRed_Herring: not when it doesn't work...05:06
Red_Herringtrue05:06
_bernardmart thx for your patience. I will try to find some info on the net. Thx a million05:07
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Arcanimusnight all05:26
Red_Herringnite05:26
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pussfellerkmymoney2 depends on kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.0.60); however06:34
pussfellerwhats that mean06:34
pussfelleri got kde 3.506:35
pussfelleri think thats a deb deb, not a kubuntu deb06:35
Kaiser_Awayit means it cant resolv dependanices for the deb06:36
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frank23pussfeller: did you try to install it with adept/synaptic?06:36
pussfellerkdelibs4c2 kdelibs4-dev is waht came up with kdelibs406:37
_Frankhey06:37
pussfellerfrank23: no, from dpkg, its a package from the site06:37
pussfellernot an ubuntu specific thingee06:37
pussfellermaybe ubuntu debs should be u-debs06:38
pussfelleror they could call them ubus06:38
frank23pussfeller: you can install it with adept though. the problem with your deb is that kdelib4 is named kdelibs4c2 in ubuntu06:38
pussfellerthat would be even better06:38
vijayhi everyone, how to save files in /var/www, because they are under root permission??06:38
_Frankwow06:38
frank23pussfeller: this why you should prefer the ubuntu repos over everything else06:39
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_jonathanhello all ....anyone up tonight06:40
pussfellerfrank23: but i think the one in the repos is older06:40
_jonathanI'm trying to get my logitech keyboard volume to work06:40
pussfellervijay: youwould have to prepend your mv commands with sudo06:40
pussfelleror start konqy as sodo06:40
_jonathani remember there was a spot I could go to specify what keyboard it was but i don't remember where06:40
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pussfellererr sudo06:41
frank23pussfeller: yeah. packages are frozen at a release. dapper will have a newer version. if you absolutely want the newest version, the best way is to compile it from source06:41
frank23_jonathan: in system settings?06:41
_jonathanyeah, i tried that06:42
_jonathanbut there is no spot06:42
frank23_jonathan: regional and accessibility->keyboard layouts06:42
_jonathani remember there was something that i could pick from all kinds of keyboards06:42
vijaypussfeller:ok06:42
frank23_jonathan: do you have kde 3.5? there is a bad bug with that dialog06:42
_jonathanok, there is nothing under keyboard model06:42
_jonathanyeah i do06:42
frank23_jonathan: there is a way to fix it... just a sec06:43
pussfelleractually vijay theres a command to start konqueror as root, kdesudo is what you want, i think06:43
_jonathanthanks06:43
Red_Herringkdesu06:43
Red_Herringnot sudo06:43
pussfelleryeah06:43
pussfellerthe japanese sounding one06:44
_jonathanfrank, i think i might have found it06:44
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pussfellercool, this might help me get my logitech elite keys owrking06:45
frank23_jonathan: I can't find it...  you have to create a link somewhere06:46
_jonathani tried that06:46
_jonathanhmm, wonder if i will have to restart kde afterwards?06:46
frank23_jonathan: then restart system-settings. maybe even kde06:47
_jonathanok06:47
Parkotron_jonathan: sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb06:47
frank23_jonathan: this bug is fixed in dapper I think06:47
_jonathani'm anxious for that06:48
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_jonathanhowever, it will be awhile before i use it ....bugs and everything06:48
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frank23_jonathan: yeah. I'll try the live cd when dapper is released and if everything works well, I'll upgrade06:49
patrixI upgraded to Dapper last night06:50
patrixhit a few snags, but everything's working beautifully now :D06:50
_jonathan...for now :-)06:50
patrixhahaha06:50
pussfellerheh06:50
pussfellerthats what i was thinking, tell me a month from now06:50
_jonathanI love it...don't get me wrong06:50
_jonathanbut yeah, everytime a release hits there are bugs06:51
Red_Herringhttp://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm06:51
_jonathanthat's honestly when the real testing begins06:51
patrixof course _jonathan06:51
_jonathanbut kudos to you for living on the edge :)06:51
patrixbut I've bene using linux for 10 years almost, s I Can get over any snag I'll encounter ;)06:51
frank23_jonathan: does the keyboard selection work?  although dapper will be more polished supposedly. They will most likely delay the release until June 1st06:51
_jonathanI'm glad your not on my pc saying that...06:51
_jonathanpatrix...a statement like that spells eminent trouble :)06:52
patrixI welcome it! ;)06:52
pussfellerim getting tired of breaking stuff :(06:52
_jonathanfrank, i think i may have to restart kde06:52
pussfellertoo old06:52
_jonathanbrb06:52
pussfellerwhy doesn't sound work in the macromedia flash player in firefox06:53
pussfelleram i using the wrong plugin06:53
pussfelleri have teh macromedia one06:54
frank23pussfeller: some people have that problem. check the forums. I don't know the solution06:54
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pussfellerok06:54
frank23pussfeller: you installed with apt?06:54
pussfelleryeah06:54
pussfellerno...06:54
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pussfelleri didnt06:54
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pussfelleri got it from the macromedia site06:54
_jonathanno, layouts are still not there06:54
pussfelleri think....06:54
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pussfelleryou might have to restart kdm06:55
frank23pussfeller: or with adept or whatever? oh. check if flashplayer-mozilla is installed.06:55
frank23_jonathan: yeah maybe you have to restart X06:55
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pussfellerno, i didnt have that one installed06:56
_jonathanthere is a patch but i have no idea how to install it06:56
frank23_jonathan: that link sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb worked for me06:57
pussfellerkdm will load many libraries for kde, so i imagine you should try restarting kdm06:57
_jonathancrtl+alt+bksp does all that right..?06:57
patrixnope06:58
frank23_jonathan: hit ctrl-alt-backspace or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart06:58
patrixyou ahve to use the rc script (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart   from a console login)06:58
_jonathanok06:58
patrixctrl alt backspace   doesn't restart everything06:58
frank23patrix: it doesn't? I thought it did06:58
patrixnope06:58
pussfellerit would if kdm weren't running06:58
_jonathanyaa...i'm not the only dumb one06:58
_jonathanjk frankj06:59
pussfellerwell, it would kill something anyways06:59
patrixof course06:59
patrixhaha06:59
patrixhe did it without logging off first ;)06:59
pussfellerbrb06:59
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patrixwb _jonathan07:05
_jonathanthanks07:05
_jonathanhow would i install a .debdiff07:05
Hobbsee_jonathan: you dont.  why?07:06
_jonathanwell there is a apparant patch that can be used07:06
patrixyou have to rebuild the .deb07:06
_jonathanhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/3116507:06
patrixwhat's the bug anyway?07:06
patrixI missed hte whole beginning of this07:06
_jonathani do not have keyboard layouts07:07
patrixoh ok07:07
patrixweird07:07
Hobbsee_jonathan: i think you wait for the package to be updated in ubuntu07:07
Hobbseein fact, i think it has already been updated07:08
_jonathanok07:08
Hobbseeif it's marked as fix committed07:08
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_jonathanwell, i must have it then07:09
_jonathani checked for updates with synaptic and got nothing07:09
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frank23_jonathan: its fixed in dapper but not in breezy07:10
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Hobbseeoh, you're on breezy..07:11
MortalmanAnyone know why both the ubuntu DVD and the kubuntu DVD fail on install or Live cd boot with the message "failed to load installer components"   ??07:11
_jonathanok, what would the command be again07:11
frank23sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb  that? did you do it yet?07:12
_jonathanthere i think it took that time07:13
_jonathani don't know what happened i did it once07:13
frank23_jonathan: check if the link is there    ls -l /usr/share/X1107:14
_jonathanyeah07:14
_jonathanit is working now...again, i don't know what happened07:14
_jonathanthank you all for your efforts07:15
frank23_jonathan: good ;)07:15
_jonathangood night all, thanks again :-)07:15
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leafw4 hours to compile GCC07:16
leafwwe love the dapper delay.07:16
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leafwand the gcj doesn't compile!07:24
leafwit freezes07:24
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Mortalmansorry if repeating too soon.07:28
MortalmanAnyone know why both the ubuntu DVD and the kubuntu DVD fail with the message "failed to load installer components from CD" when trying to boot live or install ??07:28
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leafwMortalman: Dapper ?07:28
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MortalmanWhat's a Dapper?07:28
kuzmasterhey07:28
leafwMortalman: where did you got the CD from ?07:29
leafwdid you burn it yourself?07:29
Mortalmanleafw: bittorrent link from the kubuntu and ubuntu site.  Both DVDs give same error.07:29
Mortalmanyes, burned myself.07:29
leafwMortalman: are they for x86 or powerpc or AMD ?07:29
Mortalmanleafw: x8607:30
leafwdo you have the right one for your chip?07:30
Mortalmanlol, yes07:30
leafwxD07:30
leafw"Dapper" is the code name of the next release07:30
leafwthe current is "breezy"07:30
Mortalmanit boots fine and failes part way through the menu part after I select languages and whatnot.07:30
leafwoh. ok07:31
leafwso file a bug report07:31
MortalmanGood idea, but that doesn't get it installed. lol07:31
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: did you checksum that dvd?07:31
kuzmastercan somebody tell me how to prevent kubuntu 5.10 from going straight into text mode when i log in?07:31
MortalmanPokerFacePenguin: yes07:31
kuzmasterhow?07:32
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leafwkuzmaster: where do you log in ?07:32
leafwis a neat floating window ?07:32
kuzmasterin the text mode07:32
MortalmanPokerFacePenguin: My buddy burned a copy on his computer and it does the same thing.07:32
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PokerFacePenguinkuzmaster: ubuntuforums > search runlevel07:32
leafwyou are logging in in a tty ?07:32
kuzmaster?????07:32
kuzmasteri thinks so07:33
kuzmasteri think so***07:33
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: hmm07:33
leafwby default kdm should be used07:33
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kuzmasterso is there a way to prevent it07:33
PokerFacePenguinkuzmaster: your runlevel is set wrong....not sure off the top of my head how to fix..but that is probably easy to find in forums07:34
leafwtype sudo init to find out your run level07:34
kuzmasterok07:34
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: same kind of machine?07:34
MortalmanPokerFacePenguin: yep07:34
pussfeller''07:34
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MortalmanPokerFacePenguin: same motherboard 2 disks do the same thing on both.07:35
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: dapper or breezy?07:35
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MortalmanPokerFacePenguin: let me check.07:35
Mortalmanbreezy07:36
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: hmm, breezy is pretty mature...how new is your pc?07:36
MortalmanP4, 2.4ghz.  Not old.07:36
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PokerFacePenguinMortalman: a regular OEM pc or a home built one?07:37
MortalmanPokerFacePenguin: HP Compaq D530 SFF07:38
MortalmanMassivly produced bussines pc.07:38
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: have you googled for forums for that particular model yet?07:38
Mortalmankubuntu forums or forums in general?07:39
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: google THE forums...getting late here07:39
Mortalmanhavn't, but can.  Never occured to me.07:39
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: the ubuntu/kubuntu forums07:39
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: they are awesome for problems07:40
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MortalmanPokerFacePenguin: Thanks, I'l look through the forums for my pc model.07:40
PokerFacePenguinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/07:40
MortalmanPokerFacePenguin: Only thing so far with my model is no problems at all. lol07:42
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PokerFacePenguinMortalman: one sec...i'll see if i can find that error in the forums real quick07:42
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: so far i see someone who recently posted with same prob07:43
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MortalmanI'm not seeing that. heh07:44
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Mortalmanfound one, no solution07:45
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: hmm, have you tried burning it to a CD instead of DVD?07:46
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: just one thing I might try if it were me07:46
MortalmanPokerFacePenguin: Havn't tried. I figured 2 DVDs can't be bad. heh07:46
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MortalmanI'll try that.07:46
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: im still lookin... :)  curious07:47
MortalmanWell, foudn the same error on a Mac. heh07:47
MortalmanPeople are having same issue with the CDs.07:49
Mortalmaneven ones they ordered.07:49
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: did you use Nero to burn it?07:50
PokerFacePenguinMortalman: one person at this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60910&highlight=failed+load+installer+components+CD suggested that was his problem07:51
Mortalmanyeah,  "Recorder"->"Burn Image"07:51
Mortalmanseems like a different issue cause I did the integrity check and it was fine.07:51
Mortalmanhmm, may have found something, gonna test, brb07:53
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Mortalmansame thing, didn't work.08:01
MortalmanIt's 2am, new job at 6am.  Gotta go.08:01
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JThundleyis there really still no gpg 1.4.2 in the repos or am I missing something?08:05
naliothJThundley: you are referring to the update for the exploit?08:05
JThundleyyes08:05
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naliothJThundley: yes, it has been added, iirc (i remember seeing an update)08:07
robotgeekJThundley: you might need to have breezy-security enabled in your sources.list08:09
JThundleyoh crap, it's commented out. doy08:10
JThundleymust have done that by accident when commenting out the deb-src's, whoops08:10
naliothouch!08:11
_mindspindoes anybody have an idea why /etc/resolv.conf is overwritten at boot? I always have to edit it the file an add the primary/local DNS IP08:12
JThundleynow I'm getting an error after I apt-get dist-upgrade that it's a dupe, but it doesn't look like it is08:12
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robotgeekJThundley: wht error?08:14
JThundleyW: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)08:14
JThundleyW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:14
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robotgeekJThundley: well, did you?08:15
JThundleyof course08:15
robotgeekhmm, okay.08:15
robotgeekJThundley: let me paste my sources.list08:16
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robotgeekJThundley: hmm, actually wont help you. i run dapper08:17
robotgeek!easysource08:17
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ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:17
kuzmasterhey08:17
JThundleyI've checked that out before, it's cool08:17
JThundleyhttp://pastebin.com/61197008:17
kuzmastercan sombody tell me how to prevent my kubuntu 5.10 from going straight into text mode?08:18
kuzmasterplease?08:19
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robotgeekJThundley: line 33 and 36 are same :)08:19
kuzmasteri know it has somthing to do with runlevel and sudo int08:19
JThundleyrobotgeek: I just now uncommented that since joining this channel though08:19
robotgeekJThundley: that should fix your duplicate sources.list error08:20
JThundleyand 36 has universe after it08:20
kuzmasteranybody?08:20
robotgeekJThundley: ah, i am blind!08:20
robotgeekkuzmaster: sorry, no clue. maybe ask in #ubuntu08:20
JThundleykuzmaster: I'll help you out personally after I fix my problem :)08:20
kuzmasterok08:20
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JThundleykuzmaster: so I assume you're booting to runlevel 2, right?08:23
JThundleyand that X and everything else works correctly, it's just not starting it up when it boots08:23
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kuzmasteri dont know what my run level im booting into08:24
kuzmasterall i know is that it goes straight into text mode, and i login in text mode08:25
frank23kuzmaster: probably X is not configured well08:25
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frank23kuzmaster: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start08:25
kuzmasterit was working b4, but it just decided to go into text08:25
frank23kuzmaster: it used to work? what changed?08:26
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kuzmasterit just goes into text mode08:26
kuzmasteri dont think i changed anything08:26
frank23kuzmaster: what does sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start   do?08:26
JThundleyI've found that by default, my runlevels were set to start kdm first, and then set up x and do the ICE directories thing08:26
JThundleyso every now and then I would boot to text mode for some reason08:27
frank23kuzmaster: what is the last system things you have changed?08:27
kuzmaster dont no, im on a duel boot system, running windows now08:27
kuzmasteri have tried startx08:27
_mindspinwhat did you get from ? did x start?08:28
kuzmasterstartx diddnt work08:28
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_mindspin!work08:28
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin08:28
frank23kuzmaster: you probably would have better luck if you booted into kubuntu and then use irssi  to come back here08:28
JThundleywell your x config is messed up then08:28
_mindspindid you get any messages08:28
_mindspintry dpkg-reconfigure x-org ( or so)08:29
kuzmasterbut any way, wat should my run level be set to?08:29
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JThundley208:30
frank23kuzmaster: it should be 2 but I'm sure it already is08:30
kuzmasterok08:30
JThundleybut you gotta get X working before you can boot to X silly :)08:30
kuzmasterill try that08:30
frank23kuzmaster: rnu irssi  to get here in console08:30
_mindspin!x08:30
ubotumethinks x is a portable, network-transparent window system.08:30
_mindspinhaha08:30
kuzmasterk, ill try it and see wat happens08:31
_mindspinanyone knows the correct name for dpkg-reconfigure xorg/x-org/xorg-conf ??08:32
JThundley!it08:32
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:32
_mindspinmaybe he knows at all08:32
robotgeek_mindspin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:33
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captainbrailleHello, how do I find "libjack.so" for Wine to work?08:38
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frank23captainbraille: how are you trying to install wine?08:40
captainbraillefrank23: Well I have wine installed, I'm in "winecfg" under the Audio tab, I get this error "fixme:jack:JACK_drvLoad error loading the jack library libjack.so, please install this library to use jack"08:41
naliothcaptainbraille: use apt-get to install "apt-file".  update apt-file and search for your string08:42
frank23captainbraille: install jackd with adept or apt-get08:42
captainbrailleThanks, I'll that08:43
captainbrailleI'll try that*08:43
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kuzmasterhey, im bak08:44
kuzmasterand it diddnt work08:44
kuzmasterand i couldnt get into irc via kubuntu08:45
frank23kuzmaster: why not?08:45
kuzmasterdont no why?08:45
kuzmasterbut any way, here are my resulta08:45
kuzmasterresults**08:45
kuzmasterwhen i typed in runlevel, it said - N 208:46
kuzmasterthats all08:46
frank23kuzmaster: did you try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start ?08:46
kuzmasternope08:46
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frank23kuzmaster: anyways the problem is most likely xorg configuration08:47
kuzmasterand sudo int diddnt work08:47
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kuzmasterit just said it couldnt find int or somthing08:47
kuzmasterbrb08:47
frank23sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will reconfigure xorg for you08:48
frank23what do you mean sudo int  ?08:48
_mindspinsudo init "runlevel" i guess08:48
_mindspindpkg-reconfigure would be my guess too08:48
frank23kuzmaster: one thing to try would be to use the vesa video driver.08:49
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frank23good night08:52
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_mindspinnite08:55
_mindspinactually its 9 am here ;-)08:55
kameronis there anyway to get k3b to handle mdf/mds files, to burn from image?08:57
naliothkameron: uncle google can point you to "mdf2iso"08:57
kameronnalioth, ty08:58
kameroni love irc.08:59
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kameronnalioth, dang, that program works great, and quickly too.. i'm already done burning the image in k3b09:01
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kuzmasterwell, it has worked09:24
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kuzmasteri did reconfigured x and i entered sudo init "runlevel" 209:25
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simianmorning all09:26
_mindspinkuzmaster: the runlevel thing was unnecessary in my eyes09:27
_mindspinor did you go step by step?09:27
PokerFacePenguinx probably wasnt working and defaulted to text instead of him having a misconfigured inittab09:28
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kuzmasterok09:29
lgckameron, are you available?09:29
kuzmasterwell, all i know is that it is now working, and thats all that matters09:29
PokerFacePenguingood deal09:29
nalioth_zZzlgc: just ask your question09:29
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_mindspinkuzmaster: it always make sense to try a step by step approach . ie. changing only one thing and testing vefore trying another09:30
kameronlgc, yes i am09:30
kuzmasteri know, but i just got sick of it not goin my way, so i did it all09:30
kuzmasternow, i just downloaded firefox 1.5 of www.getfirefox.com09:31
lgcnalioth_zZz, you are ubiquitous! It's the thing about k3b: "I get that Cdrecord has no permission to write on the device. What should I do (I'm on Gnome and Hoary)?09:31
_mindspinbut it could lead to wrong conclusions anfd frustration09:31
nalioth_zZzkameron: lgc needs help setting up his k3b09:31
kameronlgc, k3b-setup09:31
kameronlgc, sorry, that's k3bsetup.09:31
lgckameron, "command not found".09:32
lgckameron, either way!09:32
kuzmasterand i extracted it to a folder on my desktop09:32
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kameronlgc, sudo k3bsetup. that will walk you through changing permissions to certain files and programs that k3b uses to burn software. that way you can burn files as a regular user.09:32
kuzmasterand i dont know how to get into firefox09:32
kameronlgc, sudo k3bsetup doesn't work?09:32
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell kuzmaster about firefox1509:33
nalioth_zZzkuzmaster: check your priv msgs09:33
_mindspinany README or INSTALL.TXT09:33
lgckameron, no. (Remember I'm on Gnome). I just apt-get installed k3b and whatever it asked.09:33
kuzmaster????09:33
kameronlgc, okay.. i didn't know you're on gnome. sudo apt-get install k3bsetup && gksudo k3bsetup09:34
nalioth_zZzkuzmaster: you've recieved a private message from ubotu09:34
lgckameron, "E: Couldn't find package k3bsetup" (and I have all repositories open).09:35
kameron...09:35
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kameronlgc, i thought k3bsetup installs with k3b.09:37
kameronlgc, you're right, there is no package named k3bsetup. i think it's bundled with k3b.09:38
lgckameron, I searched the whole file system and there only exist a couple of icons under that name.09:38
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there09:39
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to play vmw files in linux?09:39
Tallia1Kubuntuin mplayer they are all kindaof green09:39
Tallia1Kubuntu!wmv09:39
ubotuwell, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats09:39
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lgckameron, any suggestions?09:39
kameronlgc, sudo apt-get install k3b-i18n09:40
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kameronlgc, does that package install k3bsetup?09:42
lgckameron, I installed the package and I'm running k3b again...09:42
kameronlgc, try running gksudo k3bsetup09:42
lgckameron, It worked, but it did nothing (visible).09:43
kameronhmmm. it should be visibly obvious.09:44
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kamerontry again? or try without the gksudo.09:44
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kameronlgc, ^^09:45
lgckameron, what should appear then?09:45
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kamerona screen.. lgc09:45
lgckameron, nope. I want my money bak...09:46
kameronlgc, is kcontrol installed?09:46
lgckameron, no. I fancy...actually it is. And it comes out with a beautiful blue screen!09:47
kameronlgc, k3b depends on it is all.09:47
lgckameron, what should I mess with next?09:48
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i convert wmv to avi or other readable formats?09:48
kameronlgc, well.. this way sucks.. but you could try installs kubuntu-desktop.09:48
lgckameron, you mean that I should go the KDE way all the way?09:49
kameronlgc, well, it's worth a shot.09:49
kameronbesides gnome sucks lgc09:49
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lgckameron, it seems to me somewhat of a religious issue...09:50
kameronlgc, pretty much09:50
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lgckameron, I just want a "#"#$ functional cdburner!09:50
kameronlgc, i bet. doesn't gnome have one.. gtoast something?09:51
lgcgnomebaker, kameron. But it's not the only one (the default one is a pain in the ass).09:51
kamerongtoaster is one, i've never heard of gnomebaker.09:52
kameroni bet k3b will work if you install kubuntu-desktop.. it's just that, there's probably a missed dependency somewhere.09:52
motorcitymadmanI've just installed kubuntu and i wood like to install firefox / could someone point me in the right direction09:52
kameronlgc, nothing happens when you type 'k3bsetup'09:52
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kameronmotorcitymadman, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox09:53
_mindspinubotu: tell motorcitymadman about mozilla-firefox09:53
_mindspinubotu: tell motorcitymadman about firefox09:54
motorcitymadmankameron: thank you / i'm on my way / what sould i now about firefox ?09:54
kameronmotorcitymadman, it rocks09:54
_mindspinubotu: tell motorcitymadman about firefox1.509:54
kameronlgc, keep it all in one window :P09:55
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tijnhow do i upgrade safely to dapper09:55
tijn?09:55
kameronlgc, channel i mean09:55
kamerontijn, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace every instance of 'breezy' with 'dapper' then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:55
_mindspintijn: wait until it's released09:56
tijn_mindspin: erhm no ;)09:56
kameronno way man, i'm on dapper now, it rocks _mindspin09:56
_mindspinhe said "safely"09:56
tijnkameron: i did that09:56
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tijnafter a reboot, my networking died09:56
lgckameron, this is the only one I'm paying attention to (well, more or less).09:56
kameronif you've already done that, then what's the problem tijn ?09:57
tijnwell, it didnt work :)09:57
kameronlgc, you asked me something in #ubuntu :P09:57
kamerontijn, then you didn't do it properly.09:57
tijnwhats not to be done properly @ apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade ?09:57
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lgckameron, sorry. But didn't you say Gnome sucks? You might get beat up on that channel!09:58
tijn:)09:58
kamerontijn, did you replace every instance of breezy with dapper in sources.list?09:58
tijnyes09:58
kameronlgc, i said that in this channel09:58
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tijnthe only mirror that didnt work was seveas09:58
patrixwhen I updated to dapper09:58
kamerontijn, yeah, you have to use the breezy sources of seveas09:58
patrixafter the dist-upgrade09:58
_mindspinkameron: I'll gonna tell ;-)09:58
lgckameron, yes, but you shouldn't eavesdrop the enemy...09:59
tijni know09:59
patrixI had to also reinstlal kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop09:59
patrixcause some packages had been removed09:59
kameronlgc, we're not enemies.09:59
kameronlgc, mortal enemies :P09:59
patrixwell ubuntu-desktop was cause I also have gnome ;)09:59
lgckameron, I'll ring the bell on you next time I see you over there!09:59
tijnwell, gonna try and update again, if my pc dies, it will go haunt you kameron ;)10:00
kamerontijn, i can't wait10:00
tijnkk :D10:00
kameronlgc, i'm always over there. it has a lot of good help that's not specific to gnome, but just ubuntu in generall10:01
lgckameron, I'm afraid I just have to call it a night. It's 3 a.m. here and I get up early... maybe you could think of something not so radical as installing KDE...10:02
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kameroninstalling kde doesn't seem too radical, to run kde apps :P10:02
kameronlgc, get back to me later on it, i might be able to help.10:02
lgckameron, allright. Bye now.10:03
kameronlgc, later10:03
lgckameron, and thanks. EOT.10:03
motorcitymadmankameron: ok firefox installed / easy as pie / i have a alert / the file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found / pl ck location & try again / i clk ok & firfox starts / tryed reboot of firfox / i still have alt / what do i need to do now ?10:03
kameronmotorcitymadman, holy slashes batman10:04
simiani'm having problems with adept, if i run it from the command line 'kdesu adept' it's fine, but if i run it from the menu it just hangs constantly10:04
simiancan anyone advise me?10:04
kameronsimian, edit the menu item on it.10:04
motorcitymadmanor should i say what wood you do10:05
kameronmotorcitymadman, change your homepage to something else.10:05
simiankameron: ty10:05
_mindspinsomething else would not help at all, try an existing URL10:05
simiankameron: but adept updater will always run adept the old way10:06
kameron_mindspin, he doesn't have that home page installed for whatever reason, if he just changes his home page shouldn't that fix it?10:07
kameronsimian, what do you mean?10:07
motorcitymadmankameron: is very smart :-)10:07
_mindspinI would try www.google.com or any other url which suits him as startpage10:07
kameronthat's what i meant, change his home page? _mindspin10:08
_mindspinI know, but something else was not precise enough for me/ for helping10:08
kameronlol, okay.10:08
motorcitymadmansometimes default settings can give one fit's10:08
kameronmotorcitymadman, it sure can :P10:09
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kameronsimian, if you right click the menu item, look under the command field, it will probably say something like this "adept_updater %i %m -caption "%c"" change it to "adept" or "adept_updater" if you want. that might fix it.10:10
motorcitymadmanto make a dir do i just use the makedir command using a shell ?10:11
simiankameron: i've fixed adept so that it uses kdesu but i think that adeptupdater will start adept the old way regardless of what i change in the kmenu10:12
motorcitymadmani'm learning this as i go :-010:12
motorcitymadmanso i just push all the bottons and tabs to see what happens  :-P10:14
simiankameron: no you were right. it works perfectly. thanks kameron10:15
Steven_MIs anyone here on the kubuntu dapper deval team?10:17
kameronsimian, i wish my wife would say that more often.10:17
motorcitymadmanit all started when i paid for a winxp disk & reinstalled the o/s / had to call for a new key / made me angery / so i say good-bye / hello linux :-p10:17
kameronsimian, i'm just kidding, i'm not married. haha.10:17
simianlol10:18
kameroni dual booted windows and linux for years. but i only ever used windows to play CS:S... and i found i was often too lazy to reboot to linux between playing CS... so i spent a lot of time on there, and i always hated it. so i eventually just scrapped windows and got to work running cs:s on linux.10:19
motorcitymadmanone thing i will new to do is get my printers working with kubuntu10:20
_mindspincups will do it like a charm10:20
_mindspinhopefully ;-)10:20
motorcitymadmani have two lexmake : x125 & x427010:21
motorcitymadmani have cups in the kitthen / i'm wondering to i have any inside this machine10:23
_mindspincommon unix printer system10:23
_mindspinor alike...10:24
Steven_MIs anyone here on the kubuntu dapper devel team?10:24
_mindspinbut lexmark is not known for good linux support....10:24
motorcitymadmanmindspin: this cups is something i new to install ? also mindspin yes to your question about the link from the ubotu10:26
motorcitymadman*need to install10:27
motorcitymadmani can follow but i will try to also be helpfull10:28
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_mindspinmom10:31
_mindspinopen kcontrol by typing kdesu kcontrol10:32
Steven_MCan anyone tell me how to allow all the users  in a particuar group to run the halt command, rather than having to run it as root via sudo?10:33
_mindspingo to the top level entry10:33
_mindspinand select printers10:34
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_mindspinthe rest should be self explainable10:34
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visik7anyone get kcmshell fileshare working ?10:37
buzis there a way to add a "resize" action to context menu for images?10:38
buzin konqi i mean10:38
visik7I mean when I right click on a folder it tells me that I've to configure fileshare10:38
visik7but it's confgured for my user10:38
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Steven_MCan anyone tell me how to allow all the users  in a particuar group to run the halt command, rather than having to run it as root via sudo?10:48
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motorcitymadman_mindspin: printer setup / test page / test page successfully sent to printer / not printing / is this a driver prob ?10:49
_mindspinit could be, but I'm not sure10:49
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_mindspinI once had to try several drivers for a HP Printer until I got it right10:50
motorcitymadmanok i will play with it / is kubuntu and ubuntu same same / just diff colors ?10:51
Raymanmotorcitymadman: ubuntu uses Gnome, kubuntu KDE.10:51
RaymanI like KDE better.10:51
_mindspinkubuntu comes with KDE Desktop, ubuntu ships Gnome10:51
_itahi all .. i ran through the kubuntu wiki "how2AddJavaSupport" .. all worked fine .. props to the author .. even my firefox is able to display java applets now .. but .. how do i add java support to my konqueror ?!10:53
_itasame trick i do some "ln -s " to some konqueror/plugins dir ?!10:53
motorcitymadmani quess it will just take me some time to find my way around and nav-gate this system :-)10:53
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Rayman_ita10:54
_mindspinmotorcitymadman: sure, if you are new to linux at all10:54
_mindspinbut it's not that difficult10:54
_itayes, thats me :)10:54
motorcitymadmanbrand new10:54
Raymankonqueror can use mozplugins. Just go to konqueror settings/plugins and click search for new plugins or so10:54
_itaah ok .. thank you10:55
Raymandunno how that handles java but works for flash.. install flash through firefox and use them in konqueror that way ;)10:55
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_mindspinmotorcitymadman: strolling around in ubuntu/kubuntu forums would be a good idea10:56
_mindspinyou'll find a lot of helpful information10:56
_itathanks again ... konqueror shows applets .. woohoo10:57
Rayman_ita: add it to the wiki if you please ^^10:58
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motorcitymadmanrebooting-to clean out spider webs11:05
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visik7when I right click on a folder in konqueror and select share it show a button "Configure File Sharing..." but file share are configured to allow any user to share folders why it doesn't show a dialog to share ?11:07
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MrFaberhi all11:18
MrFaberHas anyone a solution for this? http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2005-January/005699.html11:18
MrFaberI have exactly the same issue only a different monitor.11:18
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zmoMrFaber, hi i use 915resolution to patch my video modes11:31
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visik7anyone got "right-click (on a folder) -> proprieties -> share" working ?11:45
buzthat never worked for me either11:45
MrFaberzmo, I too and patching works11:45
MrFaberbut the modeline is ignored for second monitor11:45
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MotorCityMadManwhen i ask kate to get out of the bed she turns her hips around and around but never gets up. What chould be wroung with kate ?11:54
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MrFaberMotorCityMadMan, start it from console11:55
RaymanMotorCityMadMan: to open files as root, try kdesu kate11:55
MrFaberI have a similar problem in Dapper11:55
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_mindspinand if firing up kate from commandline succeed, have a look at the menu entry11:56
_mindspinby right clicking11:57
MotorCityMadMani'm doing a kdesu kate in a shell now11:57
MotorCityMadMannothing is coming up as of yet11:58
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_itai know this might be offtopic  -  i need to do a complete backup of a linux box running mysql/apache/tomcat/zope asf .. and its not possible to shut the machine down during backup .. is there a "nice" way to do that ? with sth like dd maybe ?12:01
buznot really, no12:01
buzdatabase apps like mysql or zope need their own utilities to make consistant snapshots12:02
buzmysqldump for example12:02
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_itaok thank you .. i think i will just try my luck :)12:03
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kmonHi, I'm trying the new knetworkmanager, but I seem to be to dumb to get it to work with my ipw2200. Can someone help me?12:36
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jshaware you talking the newest breezy version or the newest dapper version kmon?12:39
kmonjshaw:  dapper12:40
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tijndist upgrade will fail i think :S12:41
jshawkmon: It seams to segfault when I tried and configure my ipw2200 on dapper...12:41
kmonjshaw: I'm goingo to try and remove the /etc/network/interfaces data not needed and see if it works12:42
jshawgood idea.. I'm installing gdb atm so I can see the backtrace on the segfault12:42
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tijnjshaw: what happened?12:45
jshawwell now it seams like it doesn't want to let me into administrator mode12:45
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tijnnl mirror is slooooooow :S12:58
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tijngetting a lot of timeouts :S12:59
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Hobbseetijn: swap to another mirror?01:00
tijnyea gonna do that :)01:01
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h3sp4wnHi I am using Kubuntu (Flight 5) with the official thunderbird / firefox installed into /opt (ubuntu's firefox was dog slow) is there a way to get communication between all my app's working (i.e click on a link in thunderbird it opens in firefox, same with Konversation) I have tried using update-alternatives but even if I change the simlink in /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser it doesn't seem to work any help much appreciated. Sam01:02
tijnah, my upload was been used full :)01:04
jshawI'm not sure how to make thunderbird links work, but in "User Account" -> "Default Applications" in System settings you can set firefox to be the default web browser for KDE01:04
Hobbsee!+thunderbird01:06
ubotumethinks thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042701:06
Hobbseeh3sp4wn: yeah, i had the version in /opt installed too - it's way faster!01:06
h3sp4wnthanks ubotu / jshaw01:08
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kmonDoes anyone here know where knetwork-managr in dapper stores it's settings?01:09
Hobbseekmon: as in, the passwords?01:09
kmonHobbsee: yes... I suppose01:10
Hobbseepasswords are stored in kwallet01:10
kmonHobbsee: ok, I wasn't refering to that, sorry... I was talking about a wifi network I've just configured but that is not working01:11
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Hobbseeah ok01:11
=== Hobbsee is fairly new to knetworkmanager too - it doesnt find any networks
Hobbseeyet is connected to one01:11
kmonI would like to remove the network I've added since it's not working....01:12
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Coffee_Runnerany1 else running Cedega CVS and did tools/wineinstall?01:14
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tijnerhm i do run cedega01:15
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tijnbut the 4.1 deb package01:15
Coffee_Runnerhmm...well...it asked for a fake windows directory..and the automatic setting is /c so i typed /c and i got this01:16
Coffee_RunnerConfiguring Wine without Windows.01:16
Coffee_RunnerSome fake Windows directories must be created, to hold any .ini files, DLLs,01:16
Coffee_Runnerstart menu entries, and other things your applications may need to install.01:16
Coffee_RunnerWhere would you like your fake C drive to be placed?01:16
Coffee_Runner(default is /c) /c01:16
Coffee_RunnerConfiguring Wine for a no-windows install in /c...01:16
Coffee_RunnerCreated /home/ryan/.wine/config using default Wine configuration.01:16
Coffee_RunnerYou probably want to review the file, though.01:16
Coffee_RunnerCompiling regapi...01:16
Coffee_Runnerrm -f regapi && ln -s ../../tools/winelibwrap regapi01:16
Coffee_RunnerPreparing to install default Wine registry entries...01:16
Coffee_RunnerInstalling default Wine registry entries...01:16
Coffee_Runnertools/wineinstall: line 562: programs/regapi/regapi: Permission denied01:16
tijndont flood!01:16
_mindspin!paste01:16
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.01:16
Coffee_RunnerRegistry install failed.01:16
tijnuse #flod01:16
tijn#flood *01:16
Coffee_Runner=( sorry...i didnt know it was going to separate01:17
tijnmmh01:17
Coffee_Runner>.<01:17
Coffee_Runneranyway...so where do i tell it to put drive c?01:17
Tm_Tmoin01:17
tijnmmh doesnt that happen automaticly?01:18
Coffee_Runnernegative01:18
tijnnormally it is in ur home dir01:18
tijnah dir called .Transgaming01:18
tijnin that dir you have c_drive01:18
Coffee_Runnerwhats the path to that01:18
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Coffee_RunnerConfiguring Wine without Windows. Some fake Windows directories must be created, to hold any .ini files, DLLs, start menu entries, and other things your applications may need to install. Where would you like your fake C drive placed? (defualt is /c)01:22
Coffee_Runnerthat is what it asks01:23
Coffee_Runneri typed /c01:23
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Coffee_Runnerthen it gave me that error i pasted earlier01:23
_mindspintry /home/username/fakewin/c01:24
_mindspinjust an example01:24
Coffee_Runneralright01:24
_mindspinwhere username is your username01:24
Coffee_Runnerno no i know that01:24
Coffee_Runnerit gave me the same error however01:25
Coffee_Runnerits says its about to install then...01:25
Coffee_Runnertools/wineinstall: line 562: programs/regapi/regapi: Permission denied01:25
Coffee_RunnerRegistry install failed.01:25
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Coffee_Runnerawww nvm....i found the problem01:26
Coffee_Runneri needed to install the fake directory program 1st01:27
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eliashey everyone01:34
Hobbseehey elias01:34
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eliashey hobbsee01:35
eliasi gota question01:35
eliasif anyone can help it would be great01:35
visik7anyone can paste here ls -al /etc/security/fileshare.conf ?01:35
visik7elias: don't ask to ask just ask01:35
visik7and don't ask if anyone can answer you01:36
visik7just ask01:36
eliasi have a firewall at my university01:36
elias u know the usual no msn no irc no ftp no everything ...01:36
elias  i want to get through01:36
Hobbseevisik7: ls: /etc/security/fileshare.conf: No such file or directory'01:36
elias i managed to encrypt my http packets on port 8001:36
visik7mmm ok01:36
visik7Hobbsee: probably u don't have kdenetwork-filesharing installed01:37
elias  but i need to tunnel for other ports u know for ftp irc ....01:37
Hobbseeprobably not, no01:37
visik7nevermind thanks anyway01:37
elias any ideas???? i'm a fast learner if u don't have time just give me a few link or anythin to read01:37
Hobbseeelias: maybe anonymous proxy?  i'm not sure, try google01:38
jshawelias: if you have a machine outside that network you could stunnel your traffic01:38
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jshawor setup a proxy01:38
eliasthat's the problem i don't have another box outside01:38
jshawwell, short of only using services they allow, there isn't much you can do without a box on the outside01:39
eliasthey only allow ports 80 and 443 just for websites u see01:39
JasonFnot to mention the fact you can probably get kicked out of uni for bypassing the firewall01:40
eliasbut if u know a proxy on these ports tht allows tnnelling to oyher ports(21,...) it would work01:40
visik7uh ?01:40
visik7JasonF: what uni has this policy ?01:40
jshawthey don't even allow port 22? yikes, universities are getting more restrictive01:41
Hobbseejshaw: at ours, i've seen people get msn on their laptops01:41
eliasi tried a proxy at port 80 . it didn't allow me to tunnel to port 643(the msn port i guess)01:42
jshawwell it wasn't long ago I was in school and they didn't block anything... though they did start purposely restricting bittorrent traffic01:42
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JasonFvisik7: most uni's I've seen have a computer use policy, which usually has a clause to the effect of "attempting to bypass restrictions ...." so you could get in trouble for it01:42
eliasno we don't have a such policy01:42
JasonFwell, I doubt you'll have much luck without a box on the outside01:43
visik7neither us01:43
eliasworst thing they'd do is congratulate me and assign me as head ssecurity administrator :) lol01:43
visik7you can try your-freedom.net service01:43
JasonFallowing unrestricted proxying through one port would be hella insecure for an open proxy01:43
JasonFelias: have you tried simply asking nicely? :P01:44
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Coffee_Runnerany1 know why i get this error after picking an area for the fake hard drive in Cedega CVS install?01:45
Coffee_Runnertools/wineinstall: line 562: programs/regapi/regapi: Permission denied01:45
HobbseeCoffee_Runner: stick sudo in front of it maybe?  or use fakeroot?01:45
Coffee_RunnerHobbsee: tryed sudo...no go...and u mean the winex_drive download im assuming...it wont let me replace .wine folder in home01:46
Hobbseeweird.  delete the .wine folde,r then retry?01:47
Coffee_Runnerit wont allow me...i have no permission01:47
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Coffee_Runnerim getting access denied01:47
Hobbseewho does have permission then?01:47
Coffee_Runnerwell i do..but how do i remove from console?01:48
Coffee_Runnerim trying to delete from Konquerer =,=01:48
Coffee_Runnero.o?01:50
tijnerhm01:53
tijnu dont have premissions in your own homedir?01:53
Coffee_Runner>.<01:53
Coffee_Runnerno01:53
HobbseeCoffee_Runner: cd into the directory, *AND MAKE DARN SURE THAT YOU'RE IN THERE*, then sudo rm -rf *01:53
Hobbseethen cd .. && rmdir .wine01:53
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Coffee_Runnerwhen u say in the the directory u mean.../home/username or /home/username/.wine that where mine is01:55
Coffee_Runnerthats is*01:55
Hobbseeyes01:55
Coffee_Runneryes what01:56
Coffee_RunnerO.o01:56
Hobbseeoh01:56
Hobbseethe second01:56
Hobbseesorry, didnt see the difference01:56
Hobbseeyou want to be in the .wine folde,r yes01:56
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Coffee_Runnerthank you01:57
Hobbseeno problems :)01:57
visik7anyone here using python and pycurl ?01:58
Coffee_RunnerHobbsee o.o;;01:59
HobbseeCoffee_Runner: hmmm?01:59
Coffee_RunnerHobbsee: rmdir: '.wine': Directory not empty01:59
Hobbseeyes, that's why you have to go into the wine directory first, and delete everything02:00
_mindspinrm -R will do02:00
tijnno way, if u do an rm -r it works02:00
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Coffee_Runnersudo rm -rf did nothing -,-02:00
Coffee_Runneroo rm -r02:01
_mindspinR in capital letter will02:01
Coffee_Runnerk02:01
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Hobbsee_mindspin: oh, is that what it is?02:02
=== Hobbsee usually just uses rm -rf *
_mindspin;-)02:02
jshawyou guys have a good morning.. off to the office with me....:\02:02
Coffee_RunnerO.O didn't work.02:03
_mindspinits 2pm and I'm in Office since 802:03
tijnerhm dont know about u guys, be i like it when my home dir is MY home dir, so why dont do an chown -R user.user /home/user  ?02:03
Coffee_Runnerrm: too few arguements02:03
tijnhe said he doesnt have the rights02:03
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_mindspinrm -R * will remove everything02:04
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_mindspinrm -R directoryname will delete folder and files included02:04
_mindspinbut be careful02:04
_mindspinfrom where you run the command ;-)02:05
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Coffee_RunnerI thought the * was for show02:05
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tijni run it from home02:06
tijn;)02:06
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Coffee_Runneralright...now it says my defualt is /c is it /c? or /home/username/.wine/c_drive?02:08
tijnlast one02:09
Coffee_Runnerk02:09
Coffee_Runnersame error....02:10
Coffee_Runnertools/wineinstall: line 562: programs/regapi/regapi: Permission denied02:10
Coffee_RunnerRegistry install failed.02:10
_Mucki_hi02:10
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Coffee_Runnertijn: do i need anything in front of the address?02:11
tijnnope02:11
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Coffee_Runnerhmmm...02:11
_Mucki_does anyone know if you can limit the download speed of konqueror?02:11
Coffee_Runnerthen why am i getting that error.....02:11
tijnpermission denied, you run it as a normal user?02:11
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iGotNoTimeMaybe this room is a bit slower... I run Edubuntu on my desktop and wanted to try Kubuntu on my laptop. I downloaded the ISO, burned it and ran it...02:13
iGotNoTimeit gave me errors that halted the installation the error was about not being able to mount the Cd drive02:13
_mindspinacer ?02:14
iGotNoTimeI pulled the disc and I had burnt the cd ISO to a dvd02:14
iGotNoTimecould that be the problem?02:14
Coffee_Runner.....02:14
Coffee_Runnerburn it to a CD02:14
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Coffee_Runnerand at 1x speed02:14
iGotNoTimeI was thinking it could be because it was a lightscribe drive and no support02:14
iGotNoTimeso it is because it is DVD media rather than the CD-R ?02:15
Coffee_Runnermost likely02:15
iGotNoTimeI am just happy it wasn't a bug :)02:15
iGotNoTimethanks for the help :)02:15
Coffee_Runnermmhmm02:15
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Al-Dajathere is anyway to use exe files from windows in kubuntu?02:42
_mindspinsome, like notepad.exe run in wine ;-)02:43
Al-Dajano02:43
Al-Dajalol02:43
Al-Dajanot that simple02:43
_mindspinwhich app do you wanna run?02:43
Al-Daja_mindspin: a script called upp02:43
_mindspinone the winehomepage you can have an overview02:43
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_mindspinwhat does it do? maybe there's a linux app which could to the task02:44
Al-Daja_mindspin: a friend of mine have a "crack" that can run things from windows, like scripts02:44
_mindspinvmware maybe02:45
Al-Daja_mindspin: is a mirc scritp02:45
Al-Daja*script02:45
_mindspinic02:45
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Al-Daja_mindspin: vmware i have installed02:48
_mindspinso it should work in a virtual windows, but to be honest, I never ever used vmware or wine. I have no need to run win apps02:49
patrixlast time I tried , mirc works in wine02:49
Al-Daja_mindspin: well to be honest is the best script i found until now, for a noob like me, that don't get used like bitchx or irssi, and get some real problems installing kvirc02:50
patrixlike I said Al-Daja , mirc worked in wine last time I tried (1-2 months ago)02:51
_mindspintry konversation02:51
Al-Dajai'm using koversation02:51
Al-Dajabut lack somethings02:51
_mindspinor follow patrix advice02:51
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Al-Dajai will thx patrix02:51
patrixnp02:52
Al-Daja_mindspin: koversation is good but i need a script that have things right on the way of one click of the mouse02:52
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_mindspinno prob02:52
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DarkAdmiralxchat o002:55
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Al-DajaDarkAdmiral: i use that too, well i use like 70 scripts already02:56
Al-Dajathx patrix _mindspin, it works02:58
patrix:)02:58
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_mindspinyw02:59
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tibs01ello people03:08
tibs01someone help me getting my webcam working please03:08
tibs01i still can't get it goin03:08
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spiritzIs there any one who tried beagle or assimilate under kde?03:22
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tibs01!kmess03:26
ubotutibs01: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:26
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tibs01mmmmmmmmmmm03:35
tibs01anyone help me install kmess plz ?03:35
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tibs01via package install ?03:35
tibs01!package update03:36
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tibs0103:36
_mindspintibs01: sudo apt-get install name03:36
_mindspinnever heard of kmess03:36
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tibs01ibs01@workstation:~$ sudo apt-get kmess03:42
tibs01E: Invalid operation kmess03:42
tibs01tibs01@workstation:~$03:42
tibs01im getting errors03:42
tibs01:(03:42
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_mindspinsudo apt-get install03:43
DaSkreechI'm assuming thats some kind of messenger?03:43
tibs01yes03:43
tibs01kmess is a msn messenger03:43
DaSkreechtibs01: Type in sudo apt-get install kmess03:43
_mindspinhe forgot the install03:43
tibs01E: Invalid operation kmess03:43
tibs01tibs01@workstation:~$ sudo apt-get install kmess03:43
tibs01Reading package lists... Done03:43
tibs01Building dependency tree... Done03:43
tibs01E: Couldn't find package kmess03:44
tibs01tibs01@workstation:~$03:44
tibs01 :(03:44
DaSkreech!kmess03:44
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DaSkreech03:44
tibs01tryed that03:44
tibs01aint ther03:44
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tibs01also is there an english version of easycam ?03:44
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DaSkreechtibs01: Do you have Universe ?03:45
tibs01i can't find a driver for my webcam03:45
tibs01no03:45
tibs01shall i install it ?03:45
tibs01where do i get it ?03:45
tibs01package manager ?03:45
DaSkreechtibs01: Using adept or shell?03:45
tibs01shell03:45
_mindspinyou should try adept or kynaptic03:46
DaSkreechok edit your /etc/apt/sources.list03:46
tibs01erm erm03:46
tibs01E: Invalid operation kmess03:46
tibs01tibs01@workstation:~$ sudo apt-get install kmess03:46
tibs01Reading package lists... Done03:46
tibs01Building dependency tree... Done03:46
tibs01E: Couldn't find package kmess03:46
tibs01tibs01@workstation:~$03:46
tibs01is ffs03:46
tibs01is kynaptic03:46
tibs01installed by defult ?03:47
_mindspinboth are but if you haven't enabled the corrct repository ......03:47
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_mindspin!easysource03:48
tibs01i got adept03:48
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:48
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tibs01god03:51
tibs01its hard installing packages in this03:51
_mindspinnope03:51
tibs01so what do i do to update my package manager03:52
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tibs01adept03:52
_mindspinyou just have to have the right sources.list and it will work like a charm03:52
tibs01how do i download new one03:52
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_mindspinedit the file /etc/apt/sources.list03:52
tibs01all i wanna do is get my webcam working03:53
tibs01n msn03:53
_mindspinin adept there is an update button03:53
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tibs01ok03:53
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tibs01done it03:53
_mindspin!paste03:54
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.03:54
tibs01still can't find kmess03:54
tibs01in adept03:54
tibs01even tho i upgraded it03:54
_mindspinpaste the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list03:54
_mindspinmind the link above03:54
tibs01ill paste it in msg03:55
tibs01to ya03:55
tibs01i dont wanna flood the room03:55
_mindspintherefor the pastebin link03:55
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_mindspinbut you can msg me03:55
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_mindspintibs01: are you sure kmess is avaiable at all ?03:56
tibs01yes03:56
tibs01kmess.sourceforge.net03:56
tibs01but im having problems installing it03:57
tibs01wont let me msg ys03:57
tibs01ya03:57
tibs01due to spam03:57
tibs01join #flood03:57
DaSkreech<a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all&keywords=kmess&sourceid=mozilla-search">Ubuntu -- Package Search Results</a>03:58
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_mindspinpastebin would have been easyer03:58
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DaSkreechThats Kmess03:58
tibs01thats it03:59
_mindspinremove the # in front of the universe entry03:59
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tibs01what for these two04:00
DaSkreechHmm04:00
tibs01# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe04:00
tibs01# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe04:00
DaSkreechI wonder if you can remove the # at the start of a line tha tcontains universe with Regex04:00
DaSkreechtibs01: There are different sources that you can get packages from04:01
DaSkreechThose two are the universe binary and source packages resp.04:01
tibs01ok04:04
tibs01ive done that _mindspin04:04
tibs01still can't find Kmess in it04:04
tibs01 :(04:04
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DaSkreechDid you click update?04:04
h3sp4wnhi is there a way to setup kde so that icons only appear on the taskbar of the virtual desktop they are on ?cheers04:04
tibs01yip04:05
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tibs01wb _mindspin04:05
tibs01i clicked on update on adept04:05
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Blippei have two "layouts" in my xorg file, does anybody know how to change between them?04:06
tibs01erm04:06
tibs01i can't even get my webcam working :(04:06
Blippe(without editing the xorg-file)04:06
_mindspinI have no webcam, so I can only offer basic/system help04:07
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sorush21guys how do i change the character set type in my document in writer?04:08
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noteventime'ello04:19
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jjesseis there a client that i can use to connect to a cisco vpn concnetrator ?04:33
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ganymed_hallo04:35
noteventime'04:35
zmojjesse vpnc or the proprietary cisco vpn client04:35
noteventime'ello04:35
zmojjesse i prefer vpnc combined with kvpnc04:36
ganymed_have improvements been made in the kde network module in kde 3.5.1 compared to the original breezy version?04:36
ganymed_zmo: do you have to dial into a cisco network?04:37
mornfalljjesse: the proprietary client is fairly useless AFAIK04:37
jjessebut kvpnc is decent?04:37
mornfalljjesse: go with vpnc -- but it has no rekeying support04:37
jjessei use the cisco client on windows04:37
mornfalljjesse: so depending on rekeying interval, you will fall off the vpn regularly04:37
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zmomornfall, jjesse 8 hours is default, that's long enuff 4 me04:38
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mornfallthere's a secret patch that implements part of rekeying support -- i think the record on 8h-vpn is 48h connection with the patch04:39
jjessethanks for all the help :)04:39
mornfallbut it's otherwise a bit unreliable and all :)04:40
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ganymed_how can i impelement the group password of a cisco certificate in kvpnc (or vpnc)?04:41
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zmoganymed_ edit your /etc/vpnc/vpnc.conf -> add your IPSec ID and secret04:43
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zmoganymed_ you can decode your secret from a .pcf profile using: http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/bin/cisco-decode04:44
ganymed_thx, but do i need to know the group password. it's the university entrance, and those guys don't wanna tell the password for obvious reasons...04:46
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zmoganymed_ you do need the group password, plaintext or encrypted04:47
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tibs01hello people04:47
tibs01can someone please help me i have just reinstalled for the 10th time04:47
tibs01has any one got time to give me a 1 to 1 support plz04:48
tibs01:(04:48
tibs01i only got a few things i need help with04:48
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tibs01!mount04:48
ubotumount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f04:48
ninHerevery time i log my computer, i must write dhclient...04:49
ninHerto getting internet04:49
tibs01!windowsdrives04:49
ubotuit has been said that windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f04:49
ninHerhow could i avoid this ?04:49
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morrow!interfaces04:49
thefriedzis dapper flight out for regular users?04:49
ubotumorrow: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:49
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thefriedzor is only for testing?04:50
tibs01!webcam04:50
ubotufrom memory, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.04:50
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ganymed_have improvements been made in the kde network module in kde 3.5.1 compared to the original breezy version?04:52
thefriedzis dapper flight out for regular users?04:52
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noteventimethefriendz, yes04:54
noteventimethefriendz, still beta though04:54
luinuxhi!04:54
noteventime'ello04:54
_motorcitymadmanwhat command are usable in chat window ?04:54
thefriedzso not completed04:54
_motorcitymadman*commands04:54
noteventimethefriendz, No04:54
luinuxsomeone can tell me where can i find info/doc/etc on how to make a new distro based on kubuntu?04:55
luinuxany svn?04:55
noteventimeHmmm, i think thre is info in the wiki04:56
noteventime!kubuntu04:56
uboturumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/04:56
luinuxi could not find it04:56
noteventimehmm, I don't remember were though04:56
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luinuxok04:56
luinuxthx04:56
luinux:)04:57
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noteventime!livecd04:58
noteventimefound it04:58
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noteventime!tell luinux about livecd04:58
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luinuxthanks!05:02
luinuxbut im not trying to make a livecd05:02
luinuxi want an installcd05:02
luinux(and THEN a live cd)05:02
luinuxbut i will read this05:02
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noteventimeMight help you :D05:05
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ganymed_ciao05:08
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_itawhen backupping a linux system - is it wise to backup the /usr directory as well ?!05:13
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noteventime_ita: Why not?05:14
_itawell im sort of a newb but i was told to backup .. im just trying to keep the backup as small as possible05:15
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_ita(and i have to download all via scp, so its also a time thingy)05:15
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ubuntume05:16
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noteventime_ita: /usr contains bins and docus05:18
noteventimeMostly05:19
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noteventimeNearly all configurations are in /home and /etc05:19
_itaas i see the "." in /usr was last modified in 2005 ... so does this make sure no file in any subdirectory has been changed ever since or is that too naive ?05:20
thefriedzfor some reason the sound isnt working on my desktop05:21
thefriedzis there a way to check what is going on?05:21
noteventime_ita: I'm not sure05:22
noteventimethefriedz: Take a loo in sounds settings in kcontrol05:22
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thefriedzhmmm05:23
thefriedzeverything looks fine05:23
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thefriedzbut i cant get the audio to work05:23
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Amorphisthefriedz: checked slider settings in mixer?05:26
tibs01!msn05:27
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tibs0105:27
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daelstormpython doesn't have gobject support... what's with that?05:31
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_tibs01!webcam05:31
ubotuit has been said that webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.05:31
daelstormsomeone needs to compile it in, or make a seperate package, like there used to be05:31
_tibs01!msn05:32
ubotu_tibs01: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:32
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Nomad411Hi..  I need to mirror a website through ftp but the website is actually /../../.. from the ftp login root.  Does anyone know how I manage that with wget?05:34
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apokryphosNomad411: if you're using wget then you're not managing it through ftp05:36
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Nomad411ahh?05:36
apokryphosNomad411: either get them to make some type of symlink to that directory which is in the login root (and accessible public_html), or you'll have to alter the location of it.05:37
Nomad411I use wget username:password@ftp://sitename.com05:37
apokryphosNomad411: interesting; does that work?05:37
Nomad411Sorry, I use wget ftp://username:password@sitename.com05:37
apokryphosNomad411: personally I'd just use Konqueror's fish kioslave to get/transfer things05:38
Nomad411but when I try fish?05:38
Nomad411sorry..  fish?05:38
apokryphosNomad411: in Konqueror: fish://username@domainname.com05:38
apokryphosNomad411: presuming you have shell access05:38
Nomad411I'll have to find out :)05:39
apokryphosNomad411: if you do you could of course also use scp, if you don't, use konqueror's ftp/sftp kioslave.05:39
apokryphossame syntax05:39
sorush21how do I add dictionary.com to my konqueror ?05:40
apokryphossorush21: in what way?05:40
Nomad411fish won't work..  :(  When i try with simple ftp the connection just times outeventually and leaves me high and dry05:41
sorush21apokryphos: as a search engine05:41
Nomad411no ssh access.05:42
Nomad411grr05:42
Nomad411maybe curl instead05:43
apokryphossorush21: configure konqueror -> web shortcuts. Look at how the other ones are structured, and I'm sure you can figure it out05:43
apokryphosNomad411: hm, no ssh access -- that's a shame. Interested that wget works with ftp protocol05:44
apokryphosNomad411: ...and if it does, it doesn't accept ./../ ??05:44
sorush21apokryphos: I just did... but the problem is why do they do it that way .. I wish it was similar to mozilla.05:44
apokryphossorush21: it's very very easy to do05:45
apokryphossorush21: get the url, replace the search term with \{@}  type the shortcut, and you're good to go05:45
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Nomad411apokryphos: haven't managed with ../../.. yet :(  There's bound to eb a way.. wget is what I always use05:47
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JasonFI want to basically use rsync+ssh to completely overwrite a kubuntu on another box with the one on my current box05:54
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JasonFI have root on the other box05:54
JasonFwhat's the best way to go about that?05:54
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TIBS02does any msn messengers allow webcam06:01
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TIBS02on linux ?06:01
apokryphosTIBS02: with Kopete in KDE 3.5.1 yes06:02
menace82hi! i have a prob... i have a linux box with dapper installed on, and it doesn't mount cd's. It can mount dvd's!!!!06:02
TIBS02how do i upgrade my kde06:03
_mindspinedit your /etc/apt/sources.list06:03
TIBS02will i loose anything if i upgrade my kde ?06:03
TIBS02to wot ?06:03
_mindspinkde3.5.106:03
_mindspin!sources06:04
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:04
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_mindspinI would recommend eayssource06:05
_mindspin!easysource06:05
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:05
apokryphosTIBS02: no, you won't lose anything.06:06
_mindspinand I would recommend reading here and there like in the forums06:06
TIBS02mmmmmmmmmm06:06
apokryphosTIBS02: to upgrade.......06:06
apokryphos!kde 3.5.106:06
ubotumethinks kde 3.5.1 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php06:06
_mindspinwe are not paid for support06:06
TIBS02deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main06:06
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TIBS02shall i add them to my source06:06
daelstormfiddlesticks06:06
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trappistmenace82: audio cds?06:07
apokryphosTIBS02: yes, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:07
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cycus_zwisusi need help, when i run audacity or skype capture in kmix turns off, why?06:08
_mindspinapokryphos: dist upgrade ?06:08
apokryphos_mindspin: yup06:09
apokryphos_mindspin: that is not only used for upgrading to a new distro version.06:09
_mindspinthat was new to me06:10
TIBS02W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508806:10
TIBS02E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:10
TIBS02E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:10
TIBS02tibs01@workstation:~$06:10
TIBS02 :|06:10
_mindspinI would have bet on that06:10
TIBS02wtf06:10
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_mindspin!coc06:10
ubotuI heard coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/06:10
apokryphosTIBS01: don't paste in here please :)06:11
TIBS01_mindspin can u help me plz06:11
TIBS01upgrade to kde06:11
apokryphos_mindspin: follow the instructions on that page.06:11
TIBS01next one06:11
_mindspinI would recommend reading here and there like in the forums06:11
apokryphos* TIBS0106:11
TIBS01apokryphos:06:11
_mindspinapokryphos: ???06:11
apokryphos_mindspin: bad nick completion :)06:12
_mindspinhehe06:12
TIBS01so how can i upgrade my kde :S06:12
apokryphosTIBS01: type in the two commands it tells you to do to add the GPG key06:12
apokryphosTIBS01: so wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg06:13
apokryphosTIBS01: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:13
_mindspinapokryphos: praise to you and your patience06:13
TIBS01ok done06:14
TIBS01Hit http://blognux.free.fr unstable/main Packages06:14
TIBS01Fetched 193B in 2s (85B/s)06:14
TIBS01E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:14
TIBS01E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:14
TIBS01tibs01@workstation:~$06:14
TIBS01grrrrrrrrrrrrrr06:14
TIBS01oh i know why06:15
TIBS01got two ssh windows up06:15
apokryphosTIBS01: don't paste in here! :)06:16
TIBS01still doing same thing06:16
TIBS01what can i do ?06:16
apokryphosTIBS01: close adept/synaptic and anything else using the package manager06:16
apokryphosi.e. apt, dpkg etc06:16
TIBS01done06:16
apokryphosTIBS01: then redo the last command I provided above06:17
TIBS01done06:17
TIBS01ok :D06:17
TIBS01compiling06:17
apokryphosTIBS01: you mean downloading ;-)06:17
TIBS01will i need to reboot ?06:17
_mindspinno06:17
_mindspinlog off log in will do06:18
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TIBS01done ok06:19
TIBS01brb06:19
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tibs01ok06:23
tibs01how do i check what version kde i got06:23
apokryphostibs01: kde-config --version06:23
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_itaok im off cya ...06:25
epinephrinehrm06:26
epinephrinewould using the SiS video driver that comes with kubuntu dapper make the lappy feel sluggish?06:27
epinephrinewhen dragging windows around, it uses a hell of a lot of cpu06:28
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penguinboyhowdy ho neighbors06:30
trappistSiS isn't very forthcoming with the info necessary to write good drivers06:30
epinephrinethat's what I was afraid of06:30
epinephrinedamn cheapo laptops06:30
epinephrine:p06:30
trappistyeah I almost got a helluva deal on an SiS mobo this weekend but I said wait, it's SiS06:31
epinephrinethey offer their own drivers to download for linux, but it doesn't seem to be documented06:31
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epinephrineit's filename is sis_drv.o-453 or something06:31
epinephrineprobably different numbers06:31
epinephrineno idea what to do with it :p06:32
_mindspinisn't it a binary?06:32
_mindspinmaybe just execute it06:32
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tibs01when ever i try and load up my webcam06:40
tibs01it freezes my systenm06:40
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tibs01system when i load up webcam206:41
tibs01easycam2 has tobe loaded dont it to use the webcam06:41
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RasCaLI just installed onto my laptop and it could not configure my wifi adapter, where do I set the channel?06:44
RasCaLIt seems to not recognize my adapter06:45
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jshawwhat kind of adapter is it?06:47
tibs01i dont know whats up with my webcam06:48
tibs01but when ever i load it , it keeps freezaing06:48
tibs01freezing06:48
tibs01what can i do06:48
RasCaLsorry tibs01 I haven't got that far yet ;)06:49
RasCaLjshaw Ralink WLAN inside an averatec06:49
jshawRasCal06:49
jshawRasCal: have you ever used it with Linux before?06:50
RasCaLyes06:50
RasCaLbut not on my laptop06:50
jshawyou recall what driver it used?06:50
RasCaLI run edubuntu on my desktop06:51
RasCaLjshaw no it auto configured on install06:51
RasCaLlemme check06:51
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RasCaLjshaw interface ra006:51
RasCaLno reference to drivers06:51
tibs01lol06:52
RasCaLI think I want wlan006:52
tibs01yer my server keeps freezing06:52
tibs01erm06:52
tibs01when i run easycam2 its a client to enable the webcam driver aint it ?06:52
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jshawRasCal: driver appears to be rt2400.o06:54
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RasCaLjshaw ok thank you, I am looking for it :)06:54
RasCaLI appreciate the help :)06:54
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jshawit is found in /lib/modules/<kernel version>/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt240006:56
jshawtry running a sudo modprobe rt2400 and see if it works06:56
RasCaLok06:56
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jshawif it does.. add rt2400 to /etc/modules06:58
jshawand it should come up for you on boot06:58
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RasCaLok :)06:58
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RasCaLsorry I am a bit lost, is modprobe supposed to have any effect in the shell that woudl be noticable?07:01
jshawno07:01
RasCaLok but it should impact the ra0 then?07:01
jshawyou shoudl see some stuff either in dmesg, or at the very least lsmod | grep rt2400 should return something07:02
RasCaLok07:02
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sharkethello07:15
sharketi got a problem with proftpd07:15
sharketshark@mars:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start07:15
sharketProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.07:15
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eirejahdoes anyone know if kubuntu will run on a p1 with 16mb ram and c: 1.2gig and d: 20gig cpu 166mhz  ??07:18
sharketyes07:18
sharketit'll do07:18
robotgeekeirejah: it will run, but will be sluggish07:18
sharketey robotgeek hello07:18
sharket:)07:18
robotgeekeirejah: might be more "snappy" with xubuntu, or fluxbox07:19
robotgeekhey sharket07:19
sharkethow's ur ppc doing07:19
eirejahrobotgeek: ok thanks .. would it mainly be KDE that would slow it down?07:19
Chousukeeirejah: 16MB of RAM?07:20
robotgeekeirejah: 16mb ram.07:20
Chousukeeirejah: that won't run X07:20
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eirejahno?07:20
Chousukewell, barely.07:20
Chousukecertainly won't run even xfce.07:20
eirejahok wow07:21
robotgeekChousuke: he should probably get ion/ratpoison then07:21
Chousukemaybe07:21
Chousukebut what apps is he going to run? :P07:21
Chousukea couple of xterms and then he runs out of memory.07:21
robotgeekeirejah: it's going to be very painful unless you run only console apps, frankly07:21
eirejahok cool07:22
Chousukeeirejah: yeah.07:22
eirejahthanks for the help07:22
Chousukethat'll work fine as an irssi box.07:22
Chousuke:D07:22
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ubijtsaemacs is niiiice :)07:23
eirejahok so when one installs kubuntu is there an option on the install to install only a base system or something? like im trying to help a friend here so just wondering ..is it possible to install it without KDE? all he really wants in reality is a bash shell to work with07:24
robotgeekeirejah: sure, choose server install on cd boot07:25
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eirejahok robotgeek and that will give a bash shell to work with right07:25
robotgeekeirejah: yup07:25
frank23eirejah: I don't know it much but maybe damn small linux would be more your league07:25
eirejahso type server then hit enter right?07:26
eirejahat the start where it gives the options etc07:26
robotgeekeirejah: yup.07:26
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eirejahrobotgeek: thanks alot man07:27
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robotgeeknp07:28
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pussfellerthe server install borked on me when I tried it07:29
pussfellereirejah: on a machine that old, he needs something like damn small linux07:29
pussfellerdsl is pretty damn cool07:30
eirejahhmmm07:35
eirejahit turns out07:35
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eirejahthat he only has a 1.2 g07:35
eirejahgb07:35
eirejahthe 20 gb is broke :/  lol07:35
robotgeekeirejah: get dsl then07:36
eirejahok07:36
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JasonFI'm using amorok, and when I listen to the online radio, I get constant rebufferings07:55
JasonFit'll play for ~30s07:55
JasonFthen it'll just buffer and rebuffer07:55
noteventimeAre you using xine or gstreamer07:56
noteventime!gstreamer07:56
ubotunoteventime: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:56
noteventime!xine07:56
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime07:56
noteventime!wtf07:57
ubotuwtf do you mean, noteventime ?07:57
noteventime!wtf xine07:57
ubotunoteventime: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:57
noteventime!love you ubuntu07:57
ubotunoteventime: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:57
noteventime:'(07:57
frank23JasonF: are you sure that's not a bandwidth problem?07:57
JasonFIt shouldn't be. This place has a t107:58
JasonFit is shared though07:58
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trappistmaybe you just need a bigger buffer07:58
JasonFno way, we're under 1/2 utilization on the T107:58
JasonFtrappist: how do you set that in amorok?07:58
frank23JasonF: the radio station then?  I've had much more success with amarok-xine07:58
trappistJasonF: no idea07:58
JasonFfrank23: hrm. 3 stations fail, then one works07:59
JasonFgo figure07:59
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frank23JasonF: are you using streamtuner?08:02
JasonFfrank23: what is that?08:02
JasonFfrank23: I just went to the list of radio stations08:02
JasonFpicked a couple08:02
JasonFassumed it'd work08:02
frank23JasonF: it's a program to tune in to internet radio stations. 1000s of them! ;)08:02
JasonFhrm08:03
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JasonFfrank23: *installs*08:03
JasonFfrank23: is it a gui app? it didn't add to the debian menu08:04
frank23JasonF: yes its gui. I see it in multimedia08:05
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JasonFnoooooooo!!! gtk apps in kde are evil!08:07
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frank23JasonF: that bad? gtk-qt-engine makes them look pretty similar08:08
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JasonFfrank23: thanks for the tip08:11
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epspeaking of gtk apps, I had to switch to GAIM cause kopete always showed me and everybody else as "offline" on the ICQ network.  Seems like this type of bug should be fixed by now.08:14
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epI'm trying to move to QT apps, i used to use xchat but I've found Konversation to be really nice, so I'm using it of late.08:18
epFirefox is gtk, right?   I  use it:)08:18
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slow-motionhallo08:25
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placisfos@toto08:29
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epinephrineI'm trying to remove amarok to downgrade it to a non-beta version (1.4-beta2 seems to ignore the checkbox that disables the splash screen) but I don't know why it's also trying to remove kubuntu-desktop, which I kinda need. any way to make it leave kubuntu-desktop alone?08:30
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trappistepinephrine: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage that depends on amarok.  it doesn't do anything and you don't need it.08:31
epinephrinesafe to let apt remove it with amarok then?08:31
bimberi!ubuntu-desktop08:31
uboturumour has it, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.08:31
epinephrinethat makes things easier, ta08:31
bimberiepinephrine: ^^^^ applies to kubuntu-desktop too08:31
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epinephrinek, got amarok 1.3.something back now, thanks a lot trappist and bimberi ;)08:38
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bimberiepinephrine: np :)  - you can probably reinstall kubuntu-desktop now (just make sure it doesn't bring back the later amarok)08:42
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visik7anyone using bacula ?08:44
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ubuntuhi08:46
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visik7kcmshell change group of the user u are using locking the current user to sudo at all08:48
visik7s/kcmshell/"kcmshell fileshare"/08:50
ubuntuhelp me please!!! i'n can't install kubuntu drapper08:50
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Tm_Tubuntu: please give more information08:51
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_mindspinvisik: I use bacula08:53
TecnoVM64hello people, anybody knows how to place trash and mounted drives icons to the desktop?08:53
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ubuntuTm_T> i have a virtual RAM memory error.... OH!!! sorry for my english,  .. eis very bad :D08:56
Tm_Taha08:57
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Tm_Thmm, virtual RAM error... doesn't say anything to me08:57
Tm_Tubuntu: when that appears?08:58
ubuntuTm_T> the error is "Can't find /dev/ram"08:58
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digip1mpwhen's the next final release coming out?08:58
jshaw_When it is done?08:59
ubuntuTm_T> appears when i click in "Install to hard disk"08:59
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tchizeHello09:00
jshaw_ubuntu: that means it can't mount the ramdisk the install CD loads to boot off of09:00
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Tm_Tah, espresso installer?09:01
tchizeI tried to run amarok for the first time on my kubuntu as it seem to be the default multimedia player. I get this message at startup: "A GStreamer register is missing. Check you installed necessary GStreamer modules (OGG, mp3) and you ran gst-register.09:01
Tm_Twhat amarok version? 1.3.1?09:02
Tm_Thttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/09:02
tchize1.3.109:02
Tm_Ttoo old09:02
Tm_Tupgrade ;)09:02
prozac_fieldfor Kubuntu there is xine...09:03
prozac_fieldinstall aamrok-xine09:03
Tm_Ttchize: check that page I mentioned up there09:03
tchizeshouldn't needed file have been installed by default?09:03
tchizethe anouncment on amarok on page you pointed me is for dapper09:03
ubuntujshw> i don't know >D09:03
Tm_Ttchize: hum?09:04
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Tm_Ttchize: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-amarok-beta2.php09:04
Tm_Tread09:04
Tm_Tah!09:04
apokryphosTm_T: yeah, but that's only for dapper. Breezy has old taglib09:04
Tm_Tsorry, wait09:04
apokryphos=)09:04
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apokryphostchize: install new taglib -- trivial to do.09:05
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Tm_Thttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.8.php09:05
apokryphosthat's too old too :P09:05
Tm_Tbetter than 1.3.109:05
Tm_Tapokryphos: beta2 is old to me ;(09:05
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apokryphos!find taglib09:05
apokryphos!find libtag09:05
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'libtag' (8 shown): libtag1-dev ;; libtag1-doc ;; libtag1c2 ;; libtagc0 ;; libtagc0-dev ;; libtagcoll-dev ;; libtagcoll0c2 ;; libtagcoll1-dev.09:06
Tm_Tapokryphos: it's yours now ;)09:06
apokryphos8)09:06
Tm_Tdizzy ->09:06
apokryphostchize: sudo apt-get build-dep libtag1c2, then get the taglib source http://developer.kde.org/~wheeler/taglib.html  and simply ./configure && make && sudo make install09:06
tchizeTm_T ok i'll install 1.3.8, am just wondering if amarok was supposed to be working with a default breezy installation09:06
apokryphostchize: it was, and it does09:07
apokryphostchize: just not for mp3s as the codecs are proprietary09:07
tchizeapokryphos, ok, so i must be unlucky that it complain about gstreamer :)09:07
apokryphostchize: like I said, it won't, by default, play mp3s.09:08
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tchizei didn't even try to load a mp3 :)09:09
apokryphostchize: what did you try to play?09:10
tchizenothing09:10
tchizei just started amarok and got the message09:10
tchizestarted from kde menu09:10
apokryphostchize: oh right, just checked the message now. Odd.09:10
apokryphosTm_T: how is amarok svn now by the way? It's been a few weeks :)09:11
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apokryphosTm_T: wonder if iPod support for it is working properly. Haven't been able to transfer songs to the ipod through amarok in weeeks09:11
tchizebtw i got a similar message with kaffeine a few days ago, i was suggested to replace kaffeine-gstreamer by kaffeine-xine :/09:11
apokryphostchize: yes, xine is the way to go for multimedia :)09:12
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paineshi09:12
ubuntuMrs... i can install drapper from shell ?09:12
tchizeyes, i just mean, the default install on everytinhg in kubuntu breezy around gstreamer seems broken :(09:12
jjessedo you know how to edit your sources.ist from shell?09:12
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ubuntujjesse: vi /etc/apt/sources.list09:14
Tm_Tapokryphos: fine, no idea about ipod support09:14
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jjesseis there a reason that mozilla is requirement for installing eclipse?09:16
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jjesseubuntu: sorry then just change the breezy to dapper in the sources list, update everything and then apt-get dist-upgrade09:17
tchizemmm nice adept did crash at amarok update :/09:19
apokryphostchize: install amarok 1.4 -- it's a lot better, and stable.09:20
tchizeAmarok 1.4 can not easily be supported on Kubuntu 5.10 (breezy) <-- written on annoucement page09:21
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tchize(still have the message with 1.3.8 btw)09:22
Tm_T"not easy" as it requires more than clicking one button09:22
ubuntuOk... good bye mrs...09:22
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tomas_are there any devs. here?09:22
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tchize"easy" is the main reason i switched from debian to ubuntu :)09:22
Tm_Ttomas_: devs of what?09:23
CellarDoorhello all09:23
tomas_somewhat high i guess :/09:23
Tm_T:p09:23
tomas_i have a suggestion for ubuntu/kubuntu09:23
CellarDoorI've upgraded to kde 3.5.1 but seem to have a bit of a problem with Kontact09:23
Tm_Ttomas_: what you need09:23
CellarDoorkmail isn't there09:23
CellarDoorI've lost my email09:23
Tm_Tapt-get install kmail09:23
CellarDooroh ok09:23
CellarDoorso its just a glitch then ?09:23
Tm_Twith sudo09:23
Tm_Tyeah, prolly it's not installed09:24
ubuntukubuntu it's the same to the other distros.... nothing extraordinary!!!09:24
CellarDoorok installing new kmail now09:24
tchizei just don't want to start mixing stable and unstable repositorie in my kubuntu, i did it in my debian, it was my greatest mistake :)09:25
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ubuntuwith reason they retarded it :D09:25
nico8481hi09:25
tomas_Tm_T: sometimes you install a package with some dependencies and when you uninstall the original package those "extra packages" are still there. I would like to have a "package restoration function" in ubuntu/kubuntu that lets you undo package installations09:25
CellarDoorubuntu, whats your problem ? kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde09:25
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ubuntuwell-known devil is better q devil to know09:27
ubuntuXDDDDDDDDdddd09:27
CellarDoor?09:27
ubuntuCellarDoor: i can't installl kubuntu drapper09:27
morrowtomplast_brb: if you install via aptitute it will be removed, once nothing needs this depency anymore09:28
CellarDoorah I have my kmail back now09:28
CellarDoor:D09:28
ubuntuXd09:28
ubuntuXD09:29
CellarDoorubuntu: I'm not going to try to install dapper until the official release comes out09:29
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ubuntui'm a MDV2066 user... i want test kubuntu drapper for view wish is the best XDDDD and the install proces not run09:31
Tm_Ttomplast_brb: well, aptitude has it09:31
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chopemaxhi, i had changed my user group and lost my ability to sudo, then i changed it to admin regaining this, however now i cannot acces /dev/dsp or /dev/hdd... i don't understand too much about this.. any ideas?09:33
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CellarDoorubuntu: what seems to be happening ?09:34
tomplast_brbTm_T: aptitude isnt graphical AFAIK, or am I wrong?09:35
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Tm_Ttomplast: graphical? is that something eatable?09:35
vickskonqueror is supposed to have an newticker in the sidebar, has anyone got this in 3.5.1? i don't.09:35
tomplastTm_T: =?09:35
tchizemm i think all those gstreamer things are real craps :/09:35
tomplastTm_T: ha ha, nice joke09:36
eirejahgrub or lilo .. which would be easiest on a really crappy system with no ram etc? or does it make any difference09:36
tomplast:/09:36
Tm_Tvicks: if you have akregator installed09:36
Tm_Ttomplast: anyway, I hope adept has it one day, as an option09:36
ubuntusomebody recommends a forum to me where to expose my questions over drapper?09:36
CellarDoorI think gstreamer sucks too... never worked properly for me, switched back to xine in minutes09:36
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tomplastTm_T: mmm, so do I. sooon. really soon........09:36
Tm_T:p09:36
Tm_TI don't need it09:37
CellarDoorubuntu: are you using a BenQ drive ?09:37
tchizeCellarDoor: that's currently what am doing :)09:37
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chopemaxnobody?09:37
CellarDoortchize: :P09:37
kuzmasterhey09:37
CellarDoorhey09:37
tchizejust hope it's either fixed in dapper, either replaced by xine :)09:37
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tomplastTm_T: also it would be nice with a "welcome to kubuntu" screen thingy after first login09:37
Tm_Ttomplast: yeah, I think so too09:37
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tomplastTm_T: the question is who will do it :p09:37
tomplastjust09:38
ubuntuCellarDoor: no, i use LG DVD09:38
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Tm_Ttomplast: actually it could be done in minutes09:38
kuzmastercan some one plz tell me how to prevent kubuntu from goin into text mode for the login?09:38
CellarDoorgstreamer was a show stopper for me... I dont get why developers like it, I couldnt get it to do play alot of things (yes I installed all plugins etc etc)09:38
Tm_Thah09:38
tomplastTm_T: mmm09:38
kuzmasterany one?09:38
ubuntuCellarDoor: with debian install no problem.... it's the same?09:39
tomplastTm_T: i really should learn to program for qt or kde some day :p09:39
tchizeCellarDoor: all i can get from gstreamer i constantly a box telling 'am badly installed, lacking modules'09:39
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CellarDoorubuntu: hmm... I mentioned your drive because some people have had to upgrade their firmware before kubuntu/ubuntu would install09:39
Tm_Ttomplast: best start is to hang around some kde-app-channel and suck infulences ;)09:39
tomplastTm_T: oki :)09:39
Tm_TI think09:40
kuzmastercan some one plz tell me how to prevent kubuntu from goin into text mode for the login?09:40
kuzmastercan some one plz tell me how to prevent kubuntu from goin into text mode for the login?09:40
kuzmastersorry 4 da double post09:40
ubuntuCellarDoor: I am going to prove with another unit of CDROM and come back09:40
CellarDoortchize: you could try installing more modules :P (I did that and it still played up though)09:40
tomplastTm_T: you are surely right about that :). is kdevelop3 good btw?09:40
CellarDoorubuntu: ok09:40
tchizehaaa xine engine seems to work :)09:40
Tm_Tkuzmaster: repeating doesn't help you09:40
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kuzmasteri diddnt mean 209:40
CellarDoortchize: yeah, thats why I use xine, it just works.09:40
Tm_Ttomplast: I think so, I don't use it myself though09:40
tomplastTm_T: Mr Konsole?09:41
tchizecellardoor: i can't see which additionnal module i should install. the ascii art one? :p09:41
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Tm_Ttomplast: just Kate or nano09:41
tomplastTm_T: ah :)09:41
CellarDoortchize: filter out gstreamer in Adept and see what comes up thats not installed (if you havent already done that)09:41
Tm_Tand I have my scripts to do all building so kdevelop wouldnt make it easier09:41
tomplastTm_T: btw, is there any way to install software remotely on several machines at the same time with edubuntu installed?09:42
Tm_Ttomplast: ssh? ;(09:42
tomplastTm_T: some graphical?09:42
Tm_Tyou can't say "apt-get install foo" in several Konsole tabs?09:43
tomplastTm_T: I'm planning to install linux on some more machines and show the potential for people :)09:43
Tm_Taah09:43
tchizecellardoor: i did :)09:43
tomplastTm_T: it would really be nice if there was a way to control every computer in a few clicks09:43
Tm_Tbut you know, you can't win the power of cli and scripting with any gui09:43
CellarDoortchize: use xine :P09:43
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tomplastTm_T: some remote admin tool09:43
tchizethat what i did09:44
tchizebut damn the sound comming out of xine is awfull :'(09:44
CellarDooroh09:44
Tm_Ttomplast: no idea, never needed myself, apt-cache search might help ;)09:44
CellarDoorthrough what app ?09:44
tchizeamarok09:44
CellarDoorprolly just need to change some settings09:44
tchize.... wait, checking something09:44
Tm_Ttomplast: look, http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png09:45
h3sp4wntchize the volume is probably set too high so it is distorting (same happened to me with ice-1712 soundcard)09:45
tomplastTm_T: QT is often used in Kubuntu right? Is it recommended to use it?09:45
Tm_Ttomplast: I would recommend atleast09:45
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Aapzakhey kubuntu people09:46
tchizeok, sound quality problem fixed09:46
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tchizewas just a small setting to change09:46
Tm_Ttchize: good :)09:46
CellarDoor:)09:46
tchizei was using my headset09:46
tomplastTm_T: about ssh, I use it often when communicating with a server that I run at school but doing ssh at several computers at the same time I dont know about :p09:46
tchizeit is made for human voice, not music :p09:47
tchizechanged to headphones :)09:47
tomplasthi Aapzak09:47
CellarDoorhas anyone used kde with xgl/compiz yet ?09:47
AapzakCellarDoor: I have09:47
CellarDoorI heard there was some latency09:47
tomplasti think xgl is overestimated09:47
CellarDoorAapzak: how was it09:47
Aapzakit's pretty useless at the moment09:47
Tm_Ttomplast: it's just ssh session in several tabs of Konsole, and then copy&paste&paste&paste... ;)09:47
CellarDoorAapzak: unstable ?09:48
Aapzakno, not at all, but really not developed for KDE09:48
apokryphosxgl is very nice :)09:48
Aapzakit works pretty onder gnome09:48
CellarDoorthats really annoying09:48
apokryphosAapzak: it was developed "for gnome"; the window manager doesn't really  have any gnome-specific settings09:48
tomplastTm_T: let's say that there are 200 computers to admin :p. it would be a lot easier if i just could press a button in a program that upgrade all software on all machines :)09:48
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apokryphosthough atm since it's in such early stages some things are easier for gnome, like the editor. Only gconf09:49
CellarDoorthe kde devels dont seem very impressed09:49
Aapzakand ...09:49
apokryphosAapzak: *it wasn't09:49
Tm_Ttomplast: true09:49
Aapzakkwin is a bit harder to replace09:49
Tm_Ttomplast: script :p09:49
apokryphosI still think it's a little odd/problematic that it uses a different WM09:49
tomplastTm_T: just what I thought. a simple QTprogram could be made for that task :)09:50
apokryphoss/little/very/09:50
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apokryphosthough I can perhaps see why it was done09:50
tomplastTm_T: is it better to use qt with python for a beginner like me? i do only know c, assembly, basic, visual basic and some web scripting :p09:50
Tm_Ttomplast: pyKDE09:50
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tomplastpyKDE *-)09:51
Tm_Twhy not09:51
Tm_Tyou can't know before you try ;)09:51
AapzakI used xgl/compiz with gnome, but several kde apps refuse to work, they just freeze, and my best friend konqueror starts somewhere I can't see him09:51
apokryphospython is pretty much always suggested now as among the best ways of "getting into programming"09:51
Aapzakwith KDE I mean09:51
apokryphosAapzak: well, I guess we'll have to wait till suse 10.1 to see what it's really like.09:52
Tm_Ttomplast: make it to do something like this: you define multiple ips or ip range, it takes ssh connection and sends command to them all09:52
Tm_Tetc09:52
KyralPython owns :D09:52
apokryphosor with Novell 9 if I could try it09:52
Aapzakapokryphos: I agree, this whole xg/compiz is still very alpha09:52
apokryphosAapzak: especially on xorg 6.809:52
Aapzakbut pretty stable09:52
tomplastTm_T: can you give me a link to some nice tutorial for pyKDE?09:52
KyralI hate the fact I have to take a Java course next semester09:52
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tchizejava is wonderfull09:52
Tm_Ttomplast: sorry, no idea :(09:52
tchize:)09:53
Kyralick Java09:53
tomplastTm_T: oki :p09:53
KyralPerl!09:53
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Tm_Tjava is evil09:53
apokryphosbooo09:53
KyralTIMTODY :D09:53
nico8481anybody using SCIM ?09:54
tomplastTm_T: JAVA is nice in a way but slower than a donkey09:54
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KyralYah thats why I hate Java09:54
Kyrallol09:54
tomplasti like jrisk so stop complaining :P09:54
KyralDamn Runtime :D09:54
tomplastand freemind :p09:54
tchizejava is not slow09:54
tomplastfreemind is wonderful :D09:54
tomplastcompared to "REAL" languages it is :)09:54
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tomplastcause you always need a virtual machine that translates the bytecode into something useful09:55
tomplastyeah09:55
tomplastKyral: thats a REAL language09:55
tomplastKyral: the ONLY09:55
Kyraltomplast: yah and I hate it lol09:55
CellarDoorApollon or Limewire... I know which I prefer (and its not the one that is a java app)09:55
tomplastmov trashcan, windows09:55
Kyrallemme use Python damnit :P09:55
tchizewell that's exactly the argument used year ago to not use C but better program in assembler. java has a very small overhead compared to it's advantages :)09:55
Tm_Ttomplast: I repeat, java is evil09:55
tomplastKyral: Assembly is a great language09:55
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tomplastyeah it is but i like freemind :P09:55
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Kyralscrew it I wanna learn LISP09:56
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kuzmasteri wanna learn  how to prevent kubuntu from goin into text mode for the login?09:56
Tm_Ttomplast: people say "java is like how programming languages should be, java apps are like applications should never be"09:56
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tomplastmm09:57
tomplastTm_T: i never liked java in school :p09:57
kuzmasterif sombody could help me maybe?09:57
tomplastTm_T: where are you from btw?09:57
Tm_Tit's easy, too easy so noone cares about quality anymore09:57
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Tm_Ttomplast: Finland09:57
CellarDoorkuzmaster: It shouldn't bu default09:57
tomplastfrstr du svenska :p ?09:57
CellarDoorbu = by09:57
tchizepeople are complaining on java apps using arguments which, for most i hearded, comes from the early jvm. There is very big difference between java 1.2 and java 1.5 ;)09:58
kuzmasterbut it is09:58
Tm_Ttomplast: jag talar bara lite svenska09:58
tomplastaha ;)09:58
Tm_Thmm, not sure if that was correct :p09:58
tomplastTm_T: it was acceptable but it could be a lot better :p09:58
tomplastas my english :P09:58
CellarDoorkuzmaster: could try something like 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' (if I remember correctly)09:58
tomplastlike09:58
kuzmasterit did it b4 and i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:58
kuzmasterit has worked b409:58
CellarDoorok09:58
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tomplastTm_T: there must be some remote administrating tool for linux :/09:58
kuzmasterand wen i reconfigured xserver, after that it worked for one boot, but then it diddnt work09:59
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tomplastTm_T: wanna play legends?09:59
CellarDoorkuzmaster: thats strange09:59
digip1mptomplast, webmin?09:59
kuzmasterino09:59
Tm_Ttomplast: ?10:00
tomplastdigip1mp: can you administrate remote computers with it?10:00
CellarDoorkuzmaster: try again ?10:00
digip1mptomplast, vnc?  ssh?  webmin?10:00
tomplastTm_T: haven't you played legend? install it if you havent ;)10:00
InteliWaspdo i need to do anything special to use my ipod with kubuntu?10:00
kuzmasteri have10:00
tomplastdigip1mp: i have tried vnc, ssh and webmin but i dont see your point *-)10:00
digip1mpdefine administrate?10:00
Tm_Ttomplast: hmm, not sure, with this medication I'm not totally sure if I even be here =)10:01
CellarDoorkuzmaster: I dont know what else to do except reinstalling kubuntu desktop (I'm still a bit of a n00b)10:01
tomplastdigip1mp: like installing packages for many computers with a single click10:01
kuzmasterhmmmmm, ill stick around and see if i can gather more help10:02
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digip1mphrm... you could rsync...10:02
tomplastTm_T: its a really nice shooter and its sad that almost none are playing when there are servers :/10:02
tomplastdigip1mp: i know but i want some frontend for it10:02
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ryanakcais there an apache configuration front-end?10:02
digip1mptomplast, sure there's something out there to suit your needs.  the hard part is finding one of the hundreds people have written10:02
CellarDoorkuzmaster: u using breezy ?10:02
kuzmasteryeah10:02
kuzmaster5.1010:02
CellarDoorok10:02
tomplastdigip1mp: mm, thanks anyway10:03
tomplastcome on guys, start legends :)10:03
tomplastplaytime :D10:03
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CellarDoorkuzmaster: is your graphics nvidia or ati ?10:03
kuzmasterummmmmm10:03
kuzmasterits on-board10:03
CellarDoorok10:03
kuzmasterSiS i think?10:03
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CellarDoorkuzmaster: I'm not sure if this will help, but I'm looking at this forum atm - http://www.techsupportforum.com/linux-operating-systems-applications/80232-kubuntu-5-10-x-wont.html10:04
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kuzmasterthis has more detail of my problem10:05
kuzmasterhttp://groups.google.com/group/absolute-linux-computing/browse_thread/thread/e518bedb7d5e85b0/6c2cce7e275868d3#6c2cce7e275868d310:05
kuzmasteri posted it10:05
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CellarDoorkuzmaster: does it start if you type startx ?10:07
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CellarDooroh sorry10:07
kuzmasternope, the message is listed in that google post10:07
CellarDooryou already said, I see10:08
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kuzmasterim gonna go try if it will work now10:10
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mcscrufflo all10:13
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Naail:o I just installed Flash! and I'm a NooB :D10:14
CellarDoorlo10:14
CellarDoorNaail: :)10:14
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NaailI am however going blind looking at this white screen :(10:14
CellarDoorwhite ?10:15
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CellarDooryoure using konversation ?10:15
Naailya.. ok can of worms here lol10:15
Naailhmm yes.. is there something else I could use *grins* perhaps?10:16
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ryanakcais there an apache configuration front-end?10:16
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CellarDoorNaail: why dont you just change the background colour ?10:16
ryanakcaNaail: irssi...10:16
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Naailyeah, trying too (thats the can of worms lol)10:17
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torrentshi I would need some help pz10:17
torrentsplz10:17
CellarDoorSettings > Configure Conversation > Colors10:17
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ryanakcatheres xchat too... but then, its not any better10:17
CellarDoor*Konversation10:17
Petecakesdoes gtk come preinstalled on Kubuntu?10:17
mcscruffdont think so10:17
CellarDoorPetecakes: no10:17
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PetecakesThanks.10:17
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CellarDoor:P10:18
PetecakesSee, if it came preinstalled, it would be less effort for me.10:18
PetecakesI'm just too lazy for my own good... :P10:18
Naailty ty :)10:18
CellarDoorPetecakes: apt-get install...10:19
ryanakcaI thought gimp was preinstalled on kubuntu.... I must just be imagining it...10:19
martkrita is.... can't see gimp10:19
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ryanakcadrats10:20
ryanakcagimp IS the bestest...10:20
martmmph10:20
CellarDoorsudo apt-get install gimp10:20
PetecakesCellarDoor; my Kubuntu PC isn't connected to the net, so I won't have access to repositories. I'll have to download the files and burn them onto a disc, right?10:20
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tchizei know you won't like this question but10:20
CellarDoorPetecakes: argh yes10:20
martPetecakes: see apt-zip10:20
tchizewhat it the package i need to get mp3 support for xine?10:20
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ryanakcaPetecakes: yeah.. then just mount the disk, make sure all the .deb are alone in a seperate directory then go "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"10:22
ryanakcait'll install all of the debs in that directory, so make sure that you only have debs that you want to install...10:22
Petecakesryanakca; thanks.10:22
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uNdEr-grI have Fujitsu AMILO laptop and i am trying to get Kubuntu working. I have installed it succesfully, but when it loads, it freezes, ath "Starting hotplug subsystem"10:23
PetecakesI'll need to go out and buy myself some wireless networking stuff some day so I can get my Kubuntu PC on the net.10:23
uNdEr-grany idea ?10:24
Naailwhat do I need to install for DVD and Video files to work? Codecs? who where how?10:25
Naail*will it hurt?10:25
Naail:)10:25
admrlNaail:!plf10:26
admrl!plf10:26
uboturumour has it, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc10:26
CellarDoor!mp310:26
admrlthere we go10:26
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:26
CellarDoorah10:27
admrl:D10:27
CellarDoortchize: there you go10:27
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uniq!easyubuntu10:27
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu10:27
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martI'm suspicious of easybuntu....10:28
mart"KDE/QT integration: QT/KDE apps with a GNOME look'n'feel (work in progress)"10:28
tchizecellardoor: in fact was already supported :p i jst asked amarok to scan the wrong directory, a directory where there were only a few ogg so i though it didn't scan mp3 ;p10:29
martdoesn't sound good10:29
CellarDoortchize: ah there you go then :P10:29
mornfalltchize: which adept version, if i may ask?10:29
tchize1.010:29
CellarDoormart: not that you really need it10:30
bkjonesanyone else seeing mplayer/xine/totem segfault after updating gcc/libgcc?10:30
mornfalltchize: ah, okey10:30
martCellarDoor: need what?10:30
admrlmart: i agree10:30
CellarDooreasybuntu10:30
martCellarDoor: no, but it's a pain to have to install these things by hand10:30
admrlmart: apt-get isnt really much by hand10:31
CellarDooryou only have to make sure you have sources and apt-get10:31
CellarDoorand you only have to do it once10:31
admrlyou can add repos in synaptic10:31
admrli think its about as easy as it can get10:31
martthe only sources I know (and trust) are video.debian.free.fr10:31
martand I have to rebuild those packages10:32
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CellarDoor?10:32
martwell, their built against what ever version of stuff is in debian10:32
martso I get the sources and debuild them10:32
martgod only knows who maintains the easybuntu repos10:33
martor how secure they are10:33
CellarDoorits a script10:33
CellarDoornot repos10:33
CellarDoorgood grief10:33
martCellarDoor: the script installs new apt sources10:33
martCellarDoor: at least, it did when I looked at it10:34
martCellarDoor: good grief what?10:34
CellarDoorsounds like you just like doing things the hard way... ok then10:34
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martCellarDoor: no, I'd prefer an easier way, but until I trust them to maintain secure repos...10:35
martCellarDoor: besides, I don't think they maintain it for dapper10:35
mart(maybe I'm wrong on that)10:35
simianjust out of interest, how often does adept updater check for updates?10:36
mornfallsimian: nightly, it should10:36
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mornfallsimian: fact is, if you don't have (gnome) update-notifier, it won't at all ;-)10:37
CellarDoorall it does is enable multiverse repos etc by the looks of it10:37
buddyhallo10:37
CellarDoorhello buddy10:37
martCellarDoor: oh, and plf10:37
mornfallsimian: but it will be fixed in 1.91 to work even if no ubuntu notifier is installed10:37
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buddyhow can i install new themes? I have downloaded the xp full theme from kde-look.org but how do i install it?10:37
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CellarDoorwell you dont need plf10:37
martCellarDoor: sun java isn't in multiverse10:38
simianmornfall: lol so at the moment it just sits on you desktop looking pretty lol10:38
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martCellarDoor: you don't think it's a bit suspicious that there are no real names associated with easybuntu?10:38
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morzelhy10:38
mornfallsimian: almost :] 10:39
Kyralmart: robotgeek is associated with EasyUbuntu10:39
morzelhow can I check my currently cpu speed?10:39
martKyral: that's not a real name10:39
CellarDoormart: what do you mean no real names ?10:39
mornfallsimian: the fact is, it is not the notifier that download updates but a cronjob -- the adept package just fails to set up the cronjob correctly by itself10:39
mornfallsimian: so from the position of notifier, it is in fact a minor problem :)10:40
martwhy are they hiding?  have they something to be ashamed of?10:40
Kyralmart: Just ask10:40
simianmornfall: i see10:40
Kyralreal Hackers don't have anything to hide10:40
Kyralyou want to know my name, just /whois me10:40
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CellarDoormart: have you checked their blogs, they dont seem to be hiding10:41
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martKyral: oh, you are robotgeek?10:41
Kyralmart:10:41
Kyralno10:41
Kyralrobotgeek: is :P10:41
simianmornfall: for now i'll just apt-get update/upgrade then10:41
KyralI'm just the idiot that has to package it eventually10:41
mornfalland now, let me go to bed ... good night ladies and gentlemen10:41
simianmornfall: good night10:41
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CellarDoorrobotgeek is Venkat Raghavan10:42
marthmm, if he's read EGB he can't be all bad :)10:43
Naail:o10:43
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tchizemmm is there a reason why konqueror says 'can not read . ' when accessing a ftp?10:44
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Kyralif you cared :P10:44
uNdEr-grI have Fujitsu AMILO laptop and i am trying to get Kubuntu working. I have installed it succesfully, but when it loads, it freezes, ath "Starting hotplug subsystem"10:44
uNdEr-grany idea ?10:44
Naailbrb10:44
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CellarDoorKyral: he thinks youre all conspirators, hiding behind aliases and plotting to destroy us all ;)10:46
KyralAlias? What Alias?10:46
CellarDoor:P10:46
nico8481where is KDE's notepad?10:47
martnico8481: K->Utilities10:47
CellarDoorKmenu > Utilities > Kate10:47
Kyralhmm10:47
KyralSuicide...10:47
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Kyralthis will be10:48
nico8481oh yes... didn't see it.. thx10:48
Kyralsubscribing to TKML I am10:48
martKyral: it's painless, according to the manics.10:48
nico8481(strange name for a notepad :p)10:48
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CellarDoornico8481: Kate = KDE Advanced Text Editor10:48
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CellarDooror just k advanced text editor10:49
CellarDooror just kate10:49
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Parkotronnico8481: If you'd like something a little less daunting than Kate, try installing KEdit.10:49
tchizeif you want a better named one, try kwrite :p10:49
CellarDoorKate is daunting ?10:49
martI hate to think what emacs-snapshot is10:50
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CellarDoordont do it10:50
CellarDoor!10:50
ubotuCellarDoor: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:50
tchizei promise a box of chocolate to the first one that transcript me the lyrics of http://www.tchize.be/files/13-Some Other Time.ogg (contact infols on website)10:50
CellarDooroh lol... unintentional bot abuse there10:51
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martemacs-snapshot is wonderful - but not for the easily daunted.10:51
ParkotronCellarDoor: If you were looking for notepad.exe and opened Kate I think you'd get a bit of a surprise. Side bars, bottom bars, 10 top level menu entries, features out the wazoo, etc.10:51
martwine comes with a notepad.exe :)10:51
CellarDoorParkotron: then again you might say, 'oh it actually has features' ;)10:52
ParkotronCellarDoor: Don't get me wrong, like Kate and use it where appropriate, but often times it's just to much for simple editting so I use Kedit.10:52
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ParkotronAnd Kwrite is awkwardly in between the two.10:53
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tchizei promise a box of chocolate to the first one that transcript me the lyrics of http://www.tchize.be/files/13-Some_Other_Time.ogg (contact infos on website)10:53
CellarDoortchize: what sort of chocolates ?10:53
tchizeblegian10:53
tchizebelgian10:53
tchizeit's worth it, considering nobody seems able to transcript it :/10:53
CellarDoorits not streaming10:54
martworks here10:54
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martno words yet10:54
martgood grief!10:54
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tchize:)10:54
Naailthat easy ubuntu looks cool but its generating errors :(10:54
martNaail: what sort?10:55
NaailFailed Packs I think10:55
CellarDoorok its playing now10:55
CellarDoornoatun didnt like it10:55
Naail(synaptic:5045): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_skip_taskbar_hint: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed10:56
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Naailwas an awesome run though :D10:57
CellarDoortchize: is that even in english ?10:57
martwhat the hell? spammers who send mail from abuse@ their domain ...  just to make sure you know there's no point complaining :(10:57
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tchizeCellarDoor: an english born told me once 'looks like english as sung from a japanese who don't speak english' :)10:58
CellarDoor:P10:58
NaailBleeding Edge just gives ma an abort10:59
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CellarDoorNaail: I think I'll just stick to doing it the usual way and not bother with easyubuntu11:00
Naailerm.. so whats that then?11:00
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CellarDooradding sources myself in Adept and apt-get'ting11:01
PPAAUULLHey11:01
CellarDoorhey11:01
PPAAUULLI was wondering if any of you knew when Kubuntu 6.05 would be coming out?11:02
klugezPPAAUULL: it's 6.06, June 1st, though i'm not 100% sure11:02
CellarDoor6.06 ?11:03
CellarDoorI thought dapper came out in april11:03
martCellarDoor: delayed11:03
klugezit was delayed11:03
CellarDooroh11:03
CellarDoorwhy ?11:04
martCellarDoor: can you guess when it was delayed until? :)11:04
klugezfor additional localisation polish etc11:04
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CellarDooruhmm... June ?11:04
marter... yeah11:04
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CellarDooruh... ok ;)11:04
NaailHmm how do I know what packages on Adept to get?11:05
martCellarDoor: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-March/000734.html11:05
CellarDoorNaail: what do you want ?11:05
Naaileverything :p11:05
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martNaail: no, you really don't...11:05
ompaulJune 1st 2006 is the updated release date for Ubuntu Dapper11:05
Naailwell I'd settle for everything I saw on easy ubuntu :)11:06
CellarDoorNaail: oh11:06
CellarDoorso, like erm... you want codecs ?11:06
Naailhow so Mart?11:06
CellarDoor!codecs11:06
Naailsure11:06
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories11:06
CellarDoor!easysource11:07
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:07
martNaail: er, *everything* is huge, some ten thousand packages or so, and you can't install them all at once11:07
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Naail:) I was kidding, but you know how it is I want everything now lol11:07
martyeah11:07
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_angiehello11:07
NaailIm sry, but Im an eager shiny nooblet11:08
Naail:)11:08
_angieanyone here?11:08
CellarDoorNaail: just install w32codecs and libdvdcss and that should just about cover everything you might want...11:08
Naailty ty11:08
CellarDoorI'm supposing11:08
martNaail: have a browse http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/11:08
mart(in pool)11:08
CellarDoor!restricted11:08
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats11:08
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bleakedi am a 2.5 year gentoo user.  last fall, i moved to debian to escape compiling.  honestly, i love debian.  it's suited me well thus far, with the exception of new software.  i'm used to the latest and greatest from gentoo.  i realize that unstable software is not exactly recommened, but i run a desktop and attempt to exercise good security practices, etc, etc.  currently, on my deb box, i am running from the unstable branch.  it's mostly 11:08
bleakedroblem is that software is not being update fast.  (i waited forever for KDE 3.5, and amarok 1.4 _still_ is not in unstable).. so i'm thinking of giving kubuntu a try.  would running 'breezy' suite my needs and desires?  (also, maybe this is an ignorant question, but can kubuntu be installed with minimal packages and i just build the sytem to my preference?)11:08
klugezbleaked: kubuntu is pretty much built on debian11:09
bleakedwell, i know11:09
klugezso after doing a server install you could cherry pick all you want11:10
CellarDoorbleaked: you can do a custom install of kubuntu by typing expert at the prompt instead of just hitting enter at the start of the install11:10
sivang_any muse users around?11:10
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bleakedso what are teh major differences between deb and *ubuntu11:12
martbleaked: if you're used to unstable, you could try the upcoming dapper..11:12
ryanakcableaked: dapper is pretty recent... its a 6 month release cycle...11:12
gualaCellarDoor: i'm returned with kubuntu instalation problem :D11:12
Kyralbleaked: I refer to Ubuntu as "Debian For Beginners"11:12
ryanakcayeah11:12
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CellarDoorguala: ?11:12
bleakedwell, see i'm not a beginner11:12
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Kyralbleaked: it doesn't drop you to a command line on the base install :P11:13
bleakedbut more and more i just want a simple, usable system that i don't have to think too much about.11:13
KyralBasically fire and forget install?11:13
martKyral: bleaked: that said, I was using debian for a decade or so before I installed kubuntu :)11:13
CellarDoorbleaked: thats pretty much what I think kubuntu is11:13
Kyralor Xubuntu11:13
Kyralor Ubuntu11:13
Kyralor....11:13
Kyrallol11:13
CellarDooredubuntu11:13
CellarDoor:P11:13
martZubuntu, was new on me11:13
ryanakcableaked: well that's fine... because you can use it anywais... kubuntu comes with a set of packages, and that's bassicly all you need.. you can add stuff with apt...11:13
ryanakcaZubuntu?11:14
CellarDoorxubuntu is xfce11:14
Kyralmart: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE by default11:14
martzSeries ubuntu or something11:14
Kyraloo I played with the Z/OS a while back11:14
martKyral: thanks, I know :)11:14
ryanakcagee... Aubuntu, Bubuntu, Cubuntu, Dubuntu, Eubuntu, Fubuntu, etc,etc,etc :P11:14
CellarDoorlol11:14
CellarDoorFubuntu11:14
CellarDoorI like that11:14
martNubuntu is pretty good...11:15
ryanakcaBubuntu should be an ubuntu for child hospitals...11:15
Kyralsomeone version me :P11:15
gualahelp me please with kubuntu instalation... If I come the Kubuntu dvd boats, I completely normally into the menu purely, how said, the live version runs so far perfectly, as soon as I try however kubuntu on the non removable disk to install "Install on hard disk from the menu" load it the Vmlinuz, then the said error message "Alert comes! dev/ram does emergency exist! Dropping ton the shell ". Then as said it goes into the Busybox and requires11:15
gualainput of me. And my problem is, I exactly there white not, why it is not to find dev/ram. Without RAM I did not become times mine computers11:15
jindKubuntu <311:15
ryanakcaThey come running to you saying "I have a bubu!"11:15
Kyralseriously11:15
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Kyralsomeone hit me with a CTCP Version :P11:15
CellarDoordapper drake11:16
ryanakcahmmm....11:16
Kyralyah but notice the first part :P11:16
CellarDoor*buntu11:16
Kyralyup :P11:16
CellarDoor:P11:16
martbuh?11:16
Kyral*buntu or MetaBuntu :P11:16
ryanakcathey should compress them all and put them onto a Buntu cd11:17
CellarDoorand call it megubuntu11:17
KyralActually with Espresso I don't see why we can't allow package selection now11:17
Parkotronguala: What's you're first language?11:17
martmmmm.... espresso... biab.11:17
KyralI mean if Espresso detects a live internet connection it should allow you to pick which -desktop package you want11:17
CellarDoorbigubuntu11:17
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KyralThat being said, I still find the normal installer quite nice11:18
Kyraland functional11:18
Kyraldoes what it needs to and no less11:18
gualaParkotron: spanglish :(11:18
ryanakcayeah... I like the dialog... the red blue and yellow make a perfect combination :)11:19
Parkotronguala: You might have better luck on one of the Spanish channels.11:19
Parkotron!es11:19
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:19
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ryanakcaI wonder, could you go "apt-get install edubuntu-desktop"?11:19
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martryanakca: think so...11:20
Kyralryanakca: why not?11:20
tsukihimei cannot init sound, it says i dont got permissions any idea of what to do?? =/11:20
martryanakca: you can install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop simulataneously11:20
KyralI dunno11:20
KyralI'm going to dinner11:20
bleakedcould someone or a bot explain 'espresso' to me?11:20
KyralCya :D11:20
ryanakcahmmm... I might try it... I wonder what comes with it...11:20
Kyral!espresso11:20
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kyral11:20
Kyral...11:20
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KyralEspresso, in a nutshell11:20
Kyralis an Installer that runs from the LiveCD11:20
gualaParkotron:  on the Spanish channels there is nobody... sorry!! bye bye11:21
ryanakcaas long as I can remove it later on.... mart: I made the mistake of installing ubuntu-desktop a while back11:21
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Kyralnow, I go EAT!11:21
martryanakca: if you want to remove it later, it's probably best to get used to using aptitude11:21
ryanakcawadda... why aptitude... *-desktop are metapackages, si?11:22
uniqaptitude keeps track of everything you install.. and makes uninstalling easier and cleaner.11:22
martryanakca: because aptitude keeps track of what was installed manually and what was installed automatically to satisfy depenedencies11:22
ryanakcaI tried going "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" and it did nothing, I ended up using robot geek's script to remove it...11:22
ryanakcaah11:22
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martryanakca: but you have to be careful if you normally use apt-get, and start using aptitude, apparently (although I don't recall any problems)11:23
CellarDoorbye guys11:23
martcheck what it's about to do before you confirm :)11:23
CellarDoorkeep using open source / free software !11:23
CellarDoorviva la revolution11:24
martheh - preaching to the converted.... :)11:24
Naaillol ty nn11:24
CellarDoor:P11:24
ryanakcamart: I do... I check the packages before typing in "Y"...11:24
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martryanakca: you should be fine with aptitude then11:24
ryanakcaaaaaahhhh! edubuntu is gnome!11:25
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Kamping_Kaiser<grin> yep11:27
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slow-motionbbl11:28
martryanakca: uh, isn't there a kedubuntu or something?11:28
martTm_T would know, I think?11:28
ryanakcaI dunno... I only found the edubuntu website... the most I saw is kde apps in gnome edubuntu..11:28
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_mindspinmart install kde-desktop11:29
mart_mindspin: what?11:29
_mindspinkde-desktop11:29
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mart_mindspin: yes, I'm using it.  I've been using it for 6 or 7 years or something...11:29
_mindspinin edubuntu11:30
mart_mindspin: ah, tell ryanakca :)11:30
_mindspinoops11:30
ryanakcalol11:30
robotgeekmart: you called?11:30
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martrobotgeek: just trying to put a face behind the easybuntu stuff...11:31
robotgeekmart: did you suceed?11:31
martrobotgeek: seemed a bit suspicious that you didn't have real names on the site or in the code I looked at11:31
simian_i was just looking on adept and i couldn't see and11:32
robotgeekmart: the whole team is listed on launchpad, so...11:32
simian_i was just looking on adept and i couldn't see and any blog ing software for kde11:32
martrobotgeek: I think you should put real names in code11:32
martrobotgeek: oh, I can't make head nor tail of that site11:32
robotgeekmart: heh, launchpad11:33
martrobotgeek: yeah, if you're listed there, I can't see it..11:33
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Kamping_Kaiserheh11:33
martrobotgeek: as I understand it, copyright statements that don't refer to legal entities aren't valid, and a lack of names makes it difficult to figure out who did what.11:34
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robotgeekmart: can you join #easyubuntu11:35
mart(done)11:35
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fatejudgerwhat is the deal with kompmgr?11:46
fatejudgerdo you need to have XGL to use it?11:46
fatejudgeror does the new version of xorg that Breezy uses work?11:46
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trappistfatejudger: you need to have support for the composite extension enabled in your xorg.conf11:48
slow-motionre11:48
fatejudgertrappist: I enabled it11:49
simian_good night all11:49
fatejudgertrappist: but for some reason when I turn on the effects, it's very slow11:49
fatejudgertrappist: and doesn't display right11:49
fatejudgertrappist: is it working with fglrx?11:49
trappistit sucks bad with fglrx11:49
fatejudgerdamnit11:49
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fatejudgerso I'd need to downgrade to mesa crap11:50
fatejudgerdamn I hate those drivers11:50
fatejudgerthey're so damn slow11:50
trappistmight as well use ati or vesa anyway - can't have glx with composite (really) without Xgl11:50
fatejudgertrappist: I could always use XGL then, right11:50
fatejudger?11:50
trappistthat's the idea - with Xgl you get all that, hardware accelerated11:51
fatejudgertrappist: is XGL working though?11:51
trappistrumored to work well with fglrx too, depending on your card11:51
fatejudgertrappist: I know compiz isn't11:51
fatejudgerATI 960011:51
trappistfatejudger: for a lot of people, yes.  on my box at home, no.  on my laptop here, haven't tried.11:51
fatejudgeron KDE?11:51
trappistoh I mean Xgl works, but compiz doesn't, at home.11:51
fatejudgeryeah, that's what I thought11:52
fatejudgerthey REALLY need to fix compiz11:52
trappistI'm doing something wrong, though.  too many success stories for it not to be my fault.11:52
fatejudgerI haven't heard of one Kubuntu person getting compiz working on KDE using the fglrx drivers11:52
trappistwell, I just upgraded to dapper and I'm not doing anything else, so lemme try real quick...11:53
fatejudgertrappist: do you use an ATI card?11:53
trappistyeah11:53
fatejudgertrappist: what card do you have?11:53
trappistlspci says firegl 9000.  dunno a better way to tell on a laptop.11:54
fatejudgerI wondering whether my crappy 9600 will be able to render all of these effects at 1920x120011:54
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fatejudgerlet me know how it goes11:55
trappistfatejudger: the idea is it should run wonderfully, if it works at all.11:55
trappistalmost everything should be hardware accelerated.11:55
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fatejudgertrappist: yeah, it's really nice11:55
fatejudgertrappist: but all of this technology is so new11:55
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trappisttrue11:56
fatejudgertrappist: it's unstable and not compatible with a lot of situations11:56
fatejudgertrappist: hopefully they perfect is soon, it should be a wonderful addition11:56
fatejudger*it11:56
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trappistagreed11:57
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trappistit would help if nvidia and ati would support GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap or whatever that is11:58
fatejudgertrappist: Nvidia will be the first to support it11:58
fatejudgerif anyone does11:58
fatejudgermy old Nvidia card worked great with Linux11:58
Dr_Househey .. i'm a linux newbie and i'm trying to install packages that will allow kaffeine and amarok to play media files .. but it's not working the way the tutorial is telling what to do .. can anyone help?11:59
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fatejudgerbut I got mad at Nvidia when their DVI port wouldn't render at 1920x1200 because of some stupid flaw in the card's designer11:59
fatejudger*design11:59
fatejudgerso I switched to ATI11:59
fatejudgerheh11:59
trappistok here goes...11:59
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fatejudgertrappist: good luck12:02

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