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| Cashel | I can't seem to find what provides libxfce4panel-1.0 or equiv in the 64 bit repos.. anyone know that its in there or should I go compile xfce myself? | 12:13 |
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| ajmitch | Cashel: what needs it? | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | as the lib appears to be in xfce4-panel | 12:21 |
| Cashel | something I'm compiling needed it, but I have that package and can't find the library | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | xfce4-panel-dev then | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: you'll have to harass BenC | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | see the latest kernel changelog | 12:26 |
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| Cashel | Ahh! Thanks, I see the problem now.. 4.2.2 < 4.3.20 | 12:26 |
| nictuku | (spam: beta testers for nwu needed) | 12:27 |
| nictuku | https://dev.ubuntubrasil.org/trac/nwu/ | 12:27 |
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| dolson | crimsun: if you're around, just curious if you've been having jackd issues too lately | 01:28 |
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| Se7h | damn | 01:32 |
| Se7h | usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied | 01:33 |
| Se7h | debuild: fatal error at line 768: | 01:33 |
| Se7h | im getting this alot | 01:33 |
| Erlang | alot? | 01:35 |
| Se7h | forget it | 01:35 |
| Se7h | must be something on the fs | 01:35 |
| Se7h | i'll debuild in another place | 01:36 |
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| === Erlang setup a li'le Python environment. | ||
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| LaserJock | hi everybody! | 02:16 |
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| LaserJock | grrr, I wish that the package name could be seen in Malone email subject lines. or at least in the body | 02:48 |
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| slomo | LaserJock: i often have the same wish :) maybe we should ask in #launchpad for that feature | 02:51 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: i filed a bug about that | 02:51 |
| Lathiat | just yesterday | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/35559 | 02:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35559 in launchpad "bug mail should include package name" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 02:52 |
| LaserJock | some of them don't even have the package in the body of the message | 02:54 |
| Lathiat | awesome, comment that | 02:54 |
| Lathiat | if it only targets one source package it should be in the subject | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | if its multiples they should all be listed in the body | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | i guess | 02:55 |
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| Se7h | night | 03:06 |
| LaserJock | cya Se7h | 03:06 |
| LaserJock | hi bmonty | 03:06 |
| bmonty | hey LaserJock | 03:07 |
| Se7h | im not going | 03:07 |
| Se7h | i just arrived | 03:07 |
| Se7h | :p | 03:07 |
| Se7h | sound/sound.cpp:23:20: error: Python.h: No such file or directory | 03:07 |
| Se7h | wasnt this supposed to happen just when python-dev wasnt installed? | 03:08 |
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| Se7h | \o/ partay | 03:13 |
| na7e | lame | 03:13 |
| na7e | nickserv isn't working | 03:13 |
| na7e | err, wait | 03:13 |
| na7e | it's working now | 03:13 |
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| na7e | !ops | 03:16 |
| na7e | Amaranth, invite to #ubuntu please? | 03:16 |
| Amaranth | fixed it | 03:17 |
| Amaranth | split caused it to go on again | 03:17 |
| na7e | cool, thx :) | 03:17 |
| na7e | okie dokie | 03:17 |
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| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 05:34 |
| Hobbsee | hey LaserJock | 05:34 |
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| Se7h | anyone? | 07:15 |
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| zakame | hi MOTUs | 07:20 |
| nictuku | Se7h, zakame hi | 07:22 |
| zakame | heya nictuku | 07:22 |
| Se7h | hi nictuku | 07:22 |
| Se7h | i just would like to know how's it possible to have an error from a no-python-dev-installed syatem when its installed | 07:23 |
| Se7h | wak | 07:23 |
| Se7h | well 6.25am its nice to go to sleep, bye | 07:25 |
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| zakame | heya Yagisan | 07:29 |
| === Yagisan wonders if main ever tries to build their apps in pbuilder ? apt FTBFS because of missing Build Deps, and aptitude FTBFS because of build errors | ||
| Yagisan | G'day zakame | 07:31 |
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| zakame | Yagisan: hmm bug 35681 to ubuntu-dev? | 07:53 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35681 in apt "FTBFS in pbuilder" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35681 | 07:53 |
| Yagisan | zakame: I couldn't think of a better group. sorry. please change if you can think of someone better | 07:55 |
| zakame | well ubuntu-dev normally isn't a bug group, but since this is about APT... | 07:55 |
| Yagisan | zakame: I didn't know. normally I just set bugs off to motu or motumedia | 07:56 |
| Yagisan | zakame: lp doesn't really indicate who the bugs should go to | 07:56 |
| zakame | yeah... | 07:57 |
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| Yagisan | I've noticed two patches for pbuilder + unionfs on the ml, anyone use them ? | 08:00 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:02 |
| zakame | heya dholbach! | 09:07 |
| dholbach | hey zakame! | 09:07 |
| G0SUB | dholbach: good afternoon :) | 09:07 |
| dholbach | hey G0SUB | 09:08 |
| G0SUB | dholbach: I was thinking ... can we form something like a Bugsquad and we meet every Friday? | 09:08 |
| dholbach | G0SUB: we were just discussing that on #ubuntu-bugs | 09:09 |
| G0SUB | oh, great | 09:09 |
| G0SUB | dholbach: what do you think? | 09:09 |
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| Toadstool | good morning | 10:03 |
| zakame | heya Toadstool | 10:05 |
| Toadstool | hi zakame | 10:05 |
| na7e | oh my word, i think i'm done with my gigantic project thats taken me all week | 10:13 |
| seaLne | hiya i was wondering if someone could please take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2160 if they have the time | 10:19 |
| Toadstool | uh ?! what is this debianish lintian output for autopsy on REVU ? | 10:24 |
| seaLne | it just the version change its complaining about | 10:24 |
| Toadstool | yeah I know that but it shouldn't since there's no NMU in Ubuntu... | 10:25 |
| Gloubiboulga | Toadstool, lintian doesn't know it ;) | 10:25 |
| seaLne | nobody bothered telling lintian in ubuntu that :) | 10:25 |
| Toadstool | ok :) | 10:26 |
| Toadstool | let's teach lintian then :) | 10:26 |
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| cmvo | Hi! Whom should I ask about a possible security update of flashplayer-mozilla in multiverse? | 10:44 |
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| raphink | cmvo: you should post to ubuntu-motu | 11:04 |
| raphink | imo | 11:05 |
| dholbach | raphink: motu-uvf? | 11:05 |
| raphink | hmm yes might be better sorry ;) | 11:06 |
| raphink | hi btw dholbach :) | 11:06 |
| dholbach | hi raphink :) | 11:07 |
| raphink | how are you? | 11:08 |
| dholbach | I'm fine, thanks.2786 unread desktop-bugs mails to go through :) | 11:08 |
| cmvo | raphink: Haven't I? At least Konversation shows this as ubuntu-motu. | 11:08 |
| raphink | wow | 11:08 |
| raphink | cmvo: this is the channel. I mean the mailing list | 11:09 |
| zakame | cmvo: I think raphink meant the mailing list | 11:09 |
| zakame | oh there you go | 11:09 |
| raphink | but dholbach is right in that it should be the motu-uvf mailing | 11:09 |
| raphink | hi zakame | 11:09 |
| zakame | heya raphink | 11:09 |
| dholbach | erm... just file a bug | 11:09 |
| dholbach | attach diffstat changelog etc to it and assign to motu-uvf | 11:09 |
| dholbach | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html | 11:10 |
| cmvo | dholbach: Ok, I'll start digging in launchpad :-) | 11:12 |
| dholbach | rock'n'roll :) | 11:12 |
| raphink | :) | 11:12 |
| cmvo | raphink: Sorry, I didn't understand :-) | 11:12 |
| raphink | np | 11:12 |
| raphink | I'm hardly awaken yet ;) | 11:13 |
| raphink | so I might not be very clear , | 11:13 |
| cmvo | dholbach: Adobe has released a new version 7.0.63.0 to close a security hole, but I don't know if the linux version in breezy is vulnerable. | 11:15 |
| raphink | what matters currently is dapper cmvo | 11:15 |
| zakame | you could probably file a backport request | 11:17 |
| cmvo | raphink: Dapper has the same version 7.0.25. But as long as breezy is supported it should matter too. | 11:18 |
| raphink | ok | 11:18 |
| raphink | :) | 11:18 |
| cmvo | I don't care that much for non-free software, but as long as I support users that get angry when they can't view a webpage that contains flash, I have to install a current version :-( | 11:21 |
| dholbach | I just approved flashplugin-nonfree update | 11:22 |
| dholbach | does that help? | 11:22 |
| dholbach | bug 35425 | 11:22 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35425 in flashplugin-nonfree "UVF exception 7.0.61 -> 7.0.63.1" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35425 | 11:22 |
| cmvo | dholbach: That should help. Thanks! | 11:25 |
| dholbach | cool | 11:25 |
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| cmvo | dholbach: Will this update also filter through to hoary/breezy? | 11:30 |
| dholbach | cmvo: I shouldn't think so. | 11:31 |
| dholbach | cmvo: updates to <release>-updates have to be *VERY* specific and *VERY* well tested | 11:31 |
| dholbach | cmvo: if you want to step up and test it for breezy/hoary, that'd be great | 11:32 |
| cmvo | dholbach: Sure, but if it fixes a possible security hole? See http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/apsb06-03.html | 11:33 |
| dholbach | cmvo: you maybe should talk to pitti about it | 11:33 |
| dholbach | security holes are "specific" enough, but still... it has to be tested on hoary/breezy | 11:33 |
| cmvo | dholbach: I can test on hoary and breezy, no warty though :-) | 11:35 |
| dholbach | cmvo: pitti would appreciate that | 11:35 |
| cmvo | dholbach: Where should I contact him? | 11:43 |
| dholbach | cmvo: in #ubuntu-devel ? | 11:44 |
| cmvo | dholbach: Ok. Should I file bugs against the hoary/breezy versions of flashplugin-nonfree? | 11:47 |
| dholbach | cmvo: just talk to him | 11:47 |
| dholbach | he'll tell you how you can help out | 11:47 |
| cmvo | dholbach: I'll do. | 11:50 |
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| kelmo_lap | hi | 01:02 |
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| pitti | hi | 01:40 |
| ajmitch | hi pitti | 01:40 |
| ajmitch | how's it going? | 01:40 |
| pitti | dholbach, slomo_, siretart: I pile up new sync requests for universe packages on a daily basis (many of them with new upstream versions); do you trust me enough to decide whether or not we can sync them? | 01:41 |
| pitti | dholbach, slomo_, siretart: or shall I file bugs for every new security update Debian does? | 01:42 |
| === ajmitch would consider that unnecessary bureaucracy :) | ||
| dholbach | pitti: please go ahead | 01:42 |
| dholbach | pitti: I don't think it'd make much sense | 01:43 |
| pitti | ajmitch: me too :) | 01:43 |
| dholbach | :))) | 01:43 |
| pitti | dholbach: could you formally add me to the reviewer team? | 01:43 |
| === dholbach hugs pitti | ||
| slomo_ | me too ;) so just do it, pitti :) | 01:43 |
| pitti | heh, thanks guys :) | 01:44 |
| ajmitch | the german cabal grows ;) | 01:44 |
| na7e | hi | 01:44 |
| pitti | not that syncs would actually work right now, but if they don't by the end of the week, I swear, I'll hack my own tool for it :) | 01:44 |
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| dholbach | pitti: do you want to review motu uvf exception requests too? | 01:44 |
| pitti | dholbach: I can do that occasionally if you want to | 01:45 |
| na7e | .... | 01:45 |
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| dholbach | pitti: because that's what the team basically does... people file bug report and siretart, slomo and I need to agree on them | 01:45 |
| na7e | this is tickin me off | 01:46 |
| slomo_ | dholbach: so let's stick the number of required "ok" to 3... or what do you think? | 01:46 |
| dholbach | slomo_: fine with me | 01:47 |
| pitti | dholbach: it's just that people don't complain if I sync universe packages without asking the team first | 01:47 |
| pitti | dholbach: but I don't particularly mind either way (and I'd be fine with supporting you for sync reviews) | 01:48 |
| dholbach | pitti: since the start of the team (Feb 28), I got 382 mails for MOTU UVF | 01:48 |
| dholbach | :) | 01:48 |
| pitti | ouch | 01:48 |
| ajmitch | pitti: I think people would complain more if we shipped with known security holes in universe, held up because someone was offended :) | 01:48 |
| pitti | ajmitch: :) | 01:48 |
| dholbach | pitti: I don't want to scare you off the job, I'd personally am fine with you uploading stuff - if people complain, point them towards me... I personally wouldn't like to give you yet another workload | 01:49 |
| pitti | ok, that works for me, too :) | 01:49 |
| dholbach | right... the decision is yours :) | 01:49 |
| pitti | 'dude, dholbach takes the bullets' :) | 01:49 |
| pitti | dholbach: ok, let's sort that out if someone actually complains | 01:49 |
| ajmitch | pitti: he takes a lot on himself | 01:50 |
| kelmo_lap | siretart, you about? | 01:50 |
| dholbach | pitti: cool | 01:50 |
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| sladen | na7e: you could ask the ubuntu-artwork team for help on logos | 01:56 |
| na7e | sladen, yeah, i asked in the channel, but at the moment i have some bigger fish to fry.... | 01:56 |
| sladen | pitti: please. do it. Ubuntu benefits from the lack of maintainer lock | 01:56 |
| na7e | sladen, and thanks for the suggestion | 01:57 |
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| dholbach | sladen: ?! what are you talking about? | 01:58 |
| dholbach | sladen: nobody was referring to BML at any rate | 01:58 |
| sladen | dholbach: pitti doing Universe security syncs without "asking permission" | 02:02 |
| dholbach | sladen: it's more about processes wrt freezes than maintainers locking something | 02:02 |
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| sladen | dholbach: okay, more like "ubuntu benefits from willing people 'just getting on with it'" :) | 02:04 |
| dholbach | sladen: it's a process how to deal with things in freeze times. "just getting on with it" works differently then. :) | 02:05 |
| G0SUB | dholbach: thanks for confirming the beagle UVF Exception request | 02:05 |
| dholbach | G0SUB: I think it's a good idea... I look forward to test it here. | 02:06 |
| G0SUB | great | 02:06 |
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| Yagisan | evening Hobbsee | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | hey Yagisan | 02:11 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: all ready for the lets-pretend-we-really-are-multicultural-day tomorrow ? | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | didnt know abotu that one.. | 02:12 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: some big crap about Harmony day. I think it's a joke myself, but I'm biased | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | ah right | 02:13 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: I'm taking bets that my wife gets abused again. 3 times already in the past 4 days. I think it's time to move ... | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | eek! | 02:15 |
| siretart | kelmo_lap: I have a test tomorrow, I'm therefore not that responsive today | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | why do they pick on your wife? | 02:15 |
| kelmo_lap | siretart, maybe you should close your irc client in that case ; ) | 02:16 |
| kelmo_lap | nvm, i'll contact you at another time | 02:16 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: they a) think she is chinese, b) think she can't speak english, and c) seem jealous her husband is white. | 02:16 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: at least that is my best educated guess | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | ugh | 02:17 |
| siretart | kelmo_lap: good idea. will think about that :) | 02:17 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: at least no one else has tried to hit the kids | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, definetly | 02:18 |
| kelmo_lap | siretart, after you ace your test, please try to fing time to upload wpasupplicant to experimental again, there are many improvements and a few bugfixes | 02:20 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: so what are you working on ? I'm trying to work out why I can't duplicate a bug report I sent today. | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: testing out knetworkmanager | 02:21 |
| siretart | kelmo_lap: did you already upgrade to the release of today? | 02:21 |
| kelmo_lap | siretart, no, i left that up to you. does svn-upgrade work nicely with the layout of our archive? | 02:22 |
| kelmo_lap | if so, i would gladly do it on your behalf | 02:23 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: that's for desktop systems right. Not really something I can test. At least I can break other things. | 02:23 |
| kelmo_lap | every svn archive i use has a different layout ; ) | 02:23 |
| siretart | kelmo_lap: I don't think so. I did it manually the last time. but it is on my todo list for this week anyway | 02:23 |
| kelmo_lap | ok, if i have time tonight i will do that, good luck with your study | 02:24 |
| kelmo_lap | later | 02:24 |
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| na7e | if I created my own universe repository on the installation CD, what would I use to generate the Packages.gz and Release files? | 02:28 |
| na7e | is there a program for that? | 02:29 |
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| na7e | hi Hobbsee | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee_ | hey na7e | 02:29 |
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| zakame | hi all | 02:39 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hi zakame | 02:46 |
| na7e | hi | 02:46 |
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| zakame | hello Gloubiboulga na7e | 02:48 |
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| juuva | would it be possible to update asterisk packages to repositoryes? | 03:19 |
| juuva | current version in repository is Filename: pool/universe/a/asterisk/asterisk_1.0.9.dfsg-1_i386.deb | 03:19 |
| juuva | and development goes currently somewhere in 1.2.4 which is stable | 03:19 |
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| na7e | is it possible to include packages within other packages? | 03:19 |
| lucas | somebody familiar with ubuntu-backports here ? | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | lucas: what about them? | 03:22 |
| lucas | who should I bribe to get my mail acepted, and my package too ? ;) | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | there's an ubuntu-backports mailing list | 03:23 |
| na7e | you could start with me! ;=) | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure if requests go there, or what | 03:23 |
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| lucas | I know, I sent a mail there this morning to request a new backport, but I got moderated since I'm not subscribed to it | 03:23 |
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| raphink | dholbach: is the kde-guidance package ready to go? | 03:25 |
| dholbach | raphink: did you read the last comments? | 03:25 |
| dholbach | ... on the bug report to motu-uvf | 03:25 |
| raphink | hmm sebastian says "fine with me" | 03:26 |
| raphink | but I better be sure ;) | 03:26 |
| slomo_ | raphink: there's siretart's or pitti's ok missing yet | 03:27 |
| raphink | ok | 03:27 |
| dholbach | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html | 03:28 |
| dholbach | slomo_: I don't think pitti actually joined the team | 03:28 |
| slomo_ | dholbach: hm :/ | 03:29 |
| slomo_ | dholbach: but he already has enough other work to do... understandable that he don't want to take even more | 03:29 |
| dholbach | slomo_: yeah | 03:29 |
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| dholbach | hub: !!! | 03:30 |
| hub | hi | 03:30 |
| dholbach | hub: magically the abiword amd64 breakage is gone | 03:30 |
| dholbach | the world is !NICE! again | 03:30 |
| zakame | \o/ | 03:34 |
| hub | dholbach: maybe gtk got fixed? | 03:36 |
| dholbach | hmmmmmmm | 03:36 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:48 |
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| Riddell | Seveas: that Ubugtu time thing is messing up my #ubuntu-meeting notification :( | 04:08 |
| Seveas | because it says kubuntu? | 04:09 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 04:44 |
| dolson | hi phanatic | 04:44 |
| phanatic | hey dolson | 04:44 |
| dolson | what's shakin | 04:44 |
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| armin76 | hello | 05:17 |
| armin76 | may i ask something? | 05:17 |
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| dholbach | hello armin76 | 05:18 |
| dholbach | armin76: did you just try to sign up for the ubuntu-dev team? :) | 05:18 |
| armin76 | yep | 05:19 |
| dholbach | armin76: I tried to write you a mail until I realized that Launchpad doesn't seem to have a mail adress stored for you | 05:19 |
| armin76 | oh | 05:19 |
| armin76 | probably, im new | 05:19 |
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| na7e | how can i associate a package with a task in the Packages file? Do I just have to add 'Task: task-name'? That seems sorta hacky | 05:33 |
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| na7e | anyone? ping? | 05:38 |
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| Erlang | na7e: In Debian you'd be told Task should not be handled by individual developers... I don't know about ubuntu. | 05:42 |
| na7e | Erlang, I'm trying to customize the installation CD | 05:43 |
| na7e | Erlang, so being able to make a task for my install would be ideal | 05:43 |
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| monzie | hi all | 05:44 |
| monzie | hi ajmitch_ | 05:44 |
| na7e | hi | 05:44 |
| Erlang | na7e: oh nevermind what I say then :D | 05:44 |
| na7e | Erlang, okie :) | 05:44 |
| Erlang | oh that ck7 patch is magic. I love it. | 05:44 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 09:14 |
| LaserJock | morning ajmitch | 09:18 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, is setting the locale and TZ different in a chroot? | 09:49 |
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| Kyral | hmm | 10:00 |
| Kyral | I should get around to reinstalling PBuilder | 10:00 |
| dholbach | good night guys | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | cya dholbach | 10:03 |
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| LaserJock | raphink: ping? | 10:58 |
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| crimsun | ajmitch: please try linux 2.6.15-19.29 and verify that your sound is audible, thanks. | 11:45 |
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