[12:13] <Cashel> I can't seem to find what provides libxfce4panel-1.0 or equiv in the 64 bit repos.. anyone know that its in there or should I go compile xfce myself?
[12:21] <ajmitch> Cashel: what needs it?
[12:21] <ajmitch> as the lib appears to be in xfce4-panel
[12:22] <Cashel> something I'm compiling needed it, but I have that package and can't find the library
[12:22] <ajmitch> xfce4-panel-dev then
[12:26] <ajmitch> crimsun: you'll have to harass BenC
[12:26] <ajmitch> see the latest kernel changelog
[12:26] <Cashel> Ahh! Thanks, I see the problem now.. 4.2.2 < 4.3.20
[12:27] <nictuku> (spam: beta testers for nwu needed)
[12:27] <nictuku> https://dev.ubuntubrasil.org/trac/nwu/
[01:28] <dolson> crimsun: if you're around, just curious if you've been having jackd issues too lately
[01:32] <Se7h> damn
[01:33] <Se7h> usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[01:33] <Se7h> debuild: fatal error at line 768:
[01:33] <Se7h> im getting this alot
[01:35] <Erlang> alot?
[01:35] <Se7h> forget it
[01:35] <Se7h> must be something on the fs
[01:36] <Se7h> i'll debuild in another place
[02:16] <LaserJock> hi everybody!
[02:48] <LaserJock> grrr, I wish that the package name could be seen in Malone email subject lines. or at least in the body
[02:51] <slomo> LaserJock: i often have the same wish :) maybe we should ask in #launchpad for that feature
[02:51] <Lathiat> LaserJock: i filed a bug about that
[02:52] <Lathiat> just yesterday
[02:52] <Lathiat> https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/35559
[02:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 35559 in launchpad "bug mail should include package name" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[02:54] <LaserJock> some of them don't even have the package in the body of the message
[02:54] <Lathiat> awesome, comment that
[02:55] <Lathiat> if it only targets one source package it should be in the subject
[02:55] <Lathiat> if its multiples they should all be listed in the body
[02:55] <Lathiat> i guess
[03:06] <Se7h> night
[03:06] <LaserJock> cya Se7h
[03:06] <LaserJock> hi bmonty
[03:07] <bmonty> hey LaserJock
[03:07] <Se7h> im not going
[03:07] <Se7h> i just arrived
[03:07] <Se7h> :p
[03:07] <Se7h> sound/sound.cpp:23:20: error: Python.h: No such file or directory
[03:08] <Se7h> wasnt this supposed to happen just when python-dev wasnt installed?
[03:13] <Se7h> \o/ partay
[03:13] <na7e> lame
[03:13] <na7e> nickserv isn't working
[03:13] <na7e> err, wait
[03:13] <na7e> it's working now
[03:16] <na7e> !ops
[03:16] <na7e> Amaranth, invite to #ubuntu please?
[03:17] <Amaranth> fixed it
[03:17] <Amaranth> split caused it to go on again
[03:17] <na7e> cool, thx :)
[03:17] <na7e> okie dokie
[05:34] <LaserJock> hi Hobbsee
[05:34] <Hobbsee> hey LaserJock
[07:15] <Se7h> anyone?
[07:20] <zakame> hi MOTUs
[07:22] <nictuku> Se7h, zakame hi
[07:22] <zakame> heya nictuku
[07:22] <Se7h> hi nictuku
[07:23] <Se7h> i just would like to know how's it possible to have an error from a no-python-dev-installed syatem when its installed
[07:23] <Se7h> wak
[07:25] <Se7h> well 6.25am its nice to go to sleep, bye
[07:29] <zakame> heya Yagisan
[07:31] <Yagisan> G'day zakame
[07:53] <zakame> Yagisan: hmm bug 35681 to ubuntu-dev?
[07:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 35681 in apt "FTBFS in pbuilder" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/35681
[07:55] <Yagisan> zakame: I couldn't think of a better group. sorry. please change if you can think of someone better
[07:55] <zakame> well ubuntu-dev normally isn't a bug group, but since this is about APT...
[07:56] <Yagisan> zakame: I didn't know. normally I just set bugs off to motu or motumedia
[07:56] <Yagisan> zakame: lp doesn't really indicate who the bugs should go to
[07:57] <zakame> yeah...
[08:00] <Yagisan> I've noticed two patches for pbuilder + unionfs on the ml, anyone use them ?
[09:02] <dholbach> good morning
[09:07] <zakame> heya dholbach!
[09:07] <dholbach> hey zakame!
[09:07] <G0SUB> dholbach: good afternoon :)
[09:08] <dholbach> hey G0SUB
[09:08] <G0SUB> dholbach: I was thinking ... can we form something like a Bugsquad and we meet every Friday?
[09:09] <dholbach> G0SUB: we were just discussing that on #ubuntu-bugs
[09:09] <G0SUB> oh, great
[09:09] <G0SUB> dholbach: what do you think?
[10:03] <Toadstool> good morning
[10:05] <zakame> heya Toadstool
[10:05] <Toadstool> hi zakame
[10:13] <na7e> oh my word, i think i'm done with my gigantic project thats taken me all week
[10:19] <seaLne> hiya i was wondering if someone could please take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2160 if they have the time
[10:24] <Toadstool> uh ?! what is this debianish lintian output for autopsy on REVU ?
[10:24] <seaLne> it just the version change its complaining about
[10:25] <Toadstool> yeah I know that but it shouldn't since there's no NMU in Ubuntu...
[10:25] <Gloubiboulga> Toadstool, lintian doesn't know it ;)
[10:25] <seaLne> nobody bothered telling lintian in ubuntu that :)
[10:26] <Toadstool> ok :)
[10:26] <Toadstool> let's teach lintian then :)
[10:44] <cmvo> Hi! Whom should I ask about a possible security update of flashplayer-mozilla in multiverse?
[11:04] <raphink> cmvo: you should post to ubuntu-motu
[11:05] <raphink> imo
[11:05] <dholbach> raphink: motu-uvf?
[11:06] <raphink> hmm yes might be better sorry ;)
[11:06] <raphink> hi btw dholbach :)
[11:07] <dholbach> hi raphink :)
[11:08] <raphink> how are you?
[11:08] <dholbach> I'm fine, thanks.2786 unread desktop-bugs mails to go through :)
[11:08] <cmvo> raphink: Haven't I? At least Konversation shows this as ubuntu-motu.
[11:08] <raphink> wow
[11:09] <raphink> cmvo: this is the channel. I mean the mailing list
[11:09] <zakame> cmvo: I think raphink meant the mailing list
[11:09] <zakame> oh there you go
[11:09] <raphink> but dholbach is right in that it should be the motu-uvf mailing
[11:09] <raphink> hi zakame
[11:09] <zakame> heya raphink
[11:09] <dholbach> erm... just file a bug
[11:09] <dholbach> attach diffstat changelog etc to it and assign to motu-uvf
[11:10] <dholbach> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html
[11:12] <cmvo> dholbach: Ok, I'll start digging in launchpad :-)
[11:12] <dholbach> rock'n'roll :)
[11:12] <raphink> :)
[11:12] <cmvo> raphink: Sorry, I didn't understand :-)
[11:12] <raphink> np
[11:13] <raphink> I'm hardly awaken yet ;)
[11:13] <raphink> so I might not be very clear ,
[11:15] <cmvo> dholbach: Adobe has released a new version 7.0.63.0 to close a security hole, but I don't know if the linux version in breezy is vulnerable.
[11:15] <raphink> what matters currently is dapper cmvo
[11:17] <zakame> you could probably file a backport request
[11:18] <cmvo> raphink: Dapper has the same version 7.0.25. But as long as breezy is supported it should matter too.
[11:18] <raphink> ok
[11:18] <raphink> :)
[11:21] <cmvo> I don't care that much for non-free software, but as long as I support users that get angry when they can't view a webpage that contains flash, I have to install a current version :-(
[11:22] <dholbach> I just approved flashplugin-nonfree update
[11:22] <dholbach> does that help?
[11:22] <dholbach> bug 35425
[11:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 35425 in flashplugin-nonfree "UVF exception 7.0.61 -> 7.0.63.1" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/35425
[11:25] <cmvo> dholbach: That should help. Thanks!
[11:25] <dholbach> cool
[11:30] <cmvo> dholbach: Will this update also filter through to hoary/breezy?
[11:31] <dholbach> cmvo: I shouldn't think so.
[11:31] <dholbach> cmvo: updates to <release>-updates have to be *VERY* specific and *VERY* well tested
[11:32] <dholbach> cmvo: if you want to step up and test it for breezy/hoary, that'd be great
[11:33] <cmvo> dholbach: Sure, but if it fixes a possible security hole? See http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/apsb06-03.html
[11:33] <dholbach> cmvo: you maybe should talk to pitti about it
[11:33] <dholbach> security holes are "specific" enough, but still... it has to be tested on hoary/breezy
[11:35] <cmvo> dholbach: I can test on hoary and breezy, no warty though :-)
[11:35] <dholbach> cmvo: pitti would appreciate that
[11:43] <cmvo> dholbach: Where should I contact him?
[11:44] <dholbach> cmvo: in  #ubuntu-devel ?
[11:47] <cmvo> dholbach: Ok. Should I file bugs against the hoary/breezy versions of flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:47] <dholbach> cmvo: just talk to him
[11:47] <dholbach> he'll tell you how you can help out
[11:50] <cmvo> dholbach: I'll do.
[01:02] <kelmo_lap> hi
[01:40] <pitti> hi
[01:40] <ajmitch> hi pitti
[01:40] <ajmitch> how's it going?
[01:41] <pitti> dholbach, slomo_, siretart: I pile up new sync requests for universe packages on a daily basis (many of them with new upstream versions); do you trust me enough to decide whether or not we can sync them?
[01:42] <pitti> dholbach, slomo_, siretart: or shall I file bugs for every new security update Debian does?
[01:42] <dholbach> pitti: please go ahead
[01:43] <dholbach> pitti: I don't think it'd make much sense
[01:43] <pitti> ajmitch: me too :)
[01:43] <dholbach> :)))
[01:43] <pitti> dholbach: could you formally add me to the reviewer team?
[01:43] <slomo_> me too ;) so just do it, pitti :)
[01:44] <pitti> heh, thanks guys :)
[01:44] <ajmitch> the german cabal grows ;)
[01:44] <na7e> hi
[01:44] <pitti> not that syncs would actually work right now, but if they don't by the end of the week, I swear, I'll hack my own tool for it :)
[01:44] <dholbach> pitti: do you want to review motu uvf exception requests too?
[01:45] <pitti> dholbach: I can do that occasionally if you want to
[01:45] <na7e> ....
[01:45] <dholbach> pitti: because that's what the team basically does... people file bug report and siretart, slomo and I need to agree on them
[01:46] <na7e> this is tickin me off
[01:46] <slomo_> dholbach: so let's stick the number of required "ok" to 3... or what do you think?
[01:47] <dholbach> slomo_: fine with me
[01:47] <pitti> dholbach: it's just that people don't complain if I sync universe packages without asking the team first
[01:48] <pitti> dholbach: but I don't particularly mind either way (and I'd be fine with supporting you for sync reviews)
[01:48] <dholbach> pitti: since the start of the team (Feb 28), I got 382 mails for MOTU UVF
[01:48] <dholbach> :)
[01:48] <pitti> ouch
[01:48] <ajmitch> pitti: I think people would complain more if we shipped with known security holes in universe, held up because someone was offended :)
[01:48] <pitti> ajmitch: :)
[01:49] <dholbach> pitti: I don't want to scare you off the job, I'd personally am fine with you uploading stuff - if people complain, point them towards me... I personally wouldn't like to give you yet another workload
[01:49] <pitti> ok, that works for me, too :)
[01:49] <dholbach> right... the decision is yours :)
[01:49] <pitti> 'dude, dholbach takes the bullets' :)
[01:49] <pitti> dholbach: ok, let's sort that out if someone actually complains
[01:50] <ajmitch> pitti: he takes a lot on himself
[01:50] <kelmo_lap> siretart, you about?
[01:50] <dholbach> pitti: cool
[01:56] <sladen> na7e: you could ask the ubuntu-artwork team for help on logos
[01:56] <na7e> sladen, yeah, i asked in the channel, but at the moment i have some bigger fish to fry....
[01:56] <sladen> pitti: please.  do it.  Ubuntu benefits from the lack of maintainer lock
[01:57] <na7e> sladen, and thanks for the suggestion
[01:58] <dholbach> sladen: ?! what are you talking about?
[01:58] <dholbach> sladen: nobody was referring to BML at any rate
[02:02] <sladen> dholbach: pitti doing Universe security syncs without "asking permission"
[02:02] <dholbach> sladen: it's more about processes wrt freezes than maintainers locking something
[02:04] <sladen> dholbach: okay, more like   "ubuntu benefits from willing people 'just getting on with it'" :)
[02:05] <dholbach> sladen: it's a process how to deal with things in freeze times. "just getting on with it" works differently then. :)
[02:05] <G0SUB> dholbach: thanks for confirming the beagle UVF Exception request
[02:06] <dholbach> G0SUB: I think it's a good idea... I look forward to test it here.
[02:06] <G0SUB> great
[02:10] <Yagisan> evening Hobbsee
[02:11] <Hobbsee> hey Yagisan
[02:12] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: all ready for the lets-pretend-we-really-are-multicultural-day tomorrow ?
[02:12] <Hobbsee> didnt know abotu that one..
[02:13] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: some big crap about Harmony day. I think it's a joke myself, but I'm biased
[02:13] <Hobbsee> ah right
[02:14] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: I'm taking bets that my wife gets abused again. 3 times already in the past 4 days. I think it's time to move ...
[02:15] <Hobbsee> eek!
[02:15] <siretart> kelmo_lap: I have a test tomorrow, I'm therefore not that responsive today
[02:15] <Hobbsee> why do they pick on your wife?
[02:16] <kelmo_lap> siretart, maybe you should close your irc client in that case ; )
[02:16] <kelmo_lap> nvm, i'll contact you at another time
[02:16] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: they a) think she is chinese, b) think she can't speak english, and c) seem jealous her husband is white.
[02:17] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: at least that is my best educated guess
[02:17] <Hobbsee> ugh
[02:17] <siretart> kelmo_lap: good idea. will think about that :)
[02:18] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: at least no one else has tried to hit the kids
[02:18] <Hobbsee> yeah, definetly
[02:20] <kelmo_lap> siretart, after you ace your test, please try to fing time to upload wpasupplicant to experimental again, there are many improvements and a few bugfixes
[02:20] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: so what are you working on ? I'm trying to work out why I can't duplicate a bug report I sent today.
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Yagisan: testing out knetworkmanager
[02:21] <siretart> kelmo_lap: did you already upgrade to the release of today?
[02:22] <kelmo_lap> siretart, no, i left that up to you. does svn-upgrade work nicely with the layout of our archive?
[02:23] <kelmo_lap> if so, i would gladly do it on your behalf
[02:23] <Yagisan> Hobbsee: that's for desktop systems right. Not really something I can test. At least I can break other things.
[02:23] <kelmo_lap> every svn archive i use has a different layout ; )
[02:23] <siretart> kelmo_lap: I don't think so. I did it manually the last time. but it is on my todo list for this week anyway
[02:24] <kelmo_lap> ok, if i have time tonight i will do that, good luck with your study
[02:24] <kelmo_lap> later
[02:28] <na7e> if I created my own universe repository on the installation CD, what would I use to generate the Packages.gz and Release files?
[02:29] <na7e> is there a program for that?
[02:29] <na7e> hi Hobbsee
[02:29] <Hobbsee_> hey na7e
[02:39] <zakame> hi all
[02:46] <Gloubiboulga> hi zakame
[02:46] <na7e> hi
[02:48] <zakame> hello Gloubiboulga na7e
[03:19] <juuva> would it be possible to update asterisk packages to repositoryes?
[03:19] <juuva> current version in repository is Filename: pool/universe/a/asterisk/asterisk_1.0.9.dfsg-1_i386.deb
[03:19] <juuva> and development goes currently somewhere in 1.2.4 which is stable
[03:19] <na7e> is it possible to include packages within other packages?
[03:21] <lucas> somebody familiar with ubuntu-backports here ?
[03:22] <Hobbsee> lucas: what about them?
[03:22] <lucas> who should I bribe to get my mail acepted, and my package too ? ;)
[03:23] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[03:23] <Hobbsee> there's an ubuntu-backports mailing list
[03:23] <na7e> you could start with me! ;=)
[03:23] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure if requests go there, or what
[03:23] <lucas> I know, I sent a mail there this morning to request a new backport, but I got moderated since I'm not subscribed to it
[03:25] <raphink> dholbach: is the kde-guidance package ready to go?
[03:25] <dholbach> raphink: did you read the last comments?
[03:25] <dholbach> ... on the bug report to motu-uvf
[03:26] <raphink> hmm sebastian says "fine with me"
[03:26] <raphink> but I better be sure ;)
[03:27] <slomo_> raphink: there's siretart's or pitti's ok missing yet
[03:27] <raphink> ok
[03:28] <dholbach> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html
[03:28] <dholbach> slomo_: I don't think pitti actually joined the team
[03:29] <slomo_> dholbach: hm :/
[03:29] <slomo_> dholbach: but he already has enough other work to do... understandable that he don't want to take even more
[03:29] <dholbach> slomo_: yeah
[03:30] <dholbach> hub: !!!
[03:30] <hub> hi
[03:30] <dholbach> hub: magically the abiword amd64 breakage is gone
[03:30] <dholbach> the world is !NICE! again
[03:34] <zakame> \o/
[03:36] <hub> dholbach: maybe gtk got fixed?
[03:36] <dholbach> hmmmmmmm
[03:48] <bddebian> Heya gang
[04:08] <Riddell> Seveas: that Ubugtu time thing is messing up my #ubuntu-meeting notification :(
[04:09] <Seveas> because it says kubuntu?
[04:44] <phanatic> hi people
[04:44] <dolson> hi phanatic
[04:44] <phanatic> hey dolson
[04:44] <dolson> what's shakin
[05:17] <armin76> hello
[05:17] <armin76> may i ask something?
[05:18] <dholbach> hello armin76
[05:18] <dholbach> armin76: did you just try to sign up for the ubuntu-dev team? :)
[05:19] <armin76> yep
[05:19] <dholbach> armin76: I tried to write you a mail until I realized that Launchpad doesn't seem to have a mail adress stored for you
[05:19] <armin76> oh
[05:19] <armin76> probably, im new
[05:33] <na7e> how can i associate a package with a task in the Packages file?  Do I just have to add 'Task: task-name'?  That seems sorta hacky
[05:38] <na7e> anyone? ping?
[05:42] <Erlang> na7e: In Debian you'd be told Task should not be handled by individual developers... I don't know about ubuntu.
[05:43] <na7e> Erlang, I'm trying to customize the installation CD
[05:43] <na7e> Erlang, so being able to make a task for my install would be ideal
[05:44] <monzie> hi all
[05:44] <monzie> hi ajmitch_
[05:44] <na7e> hi
[05:44] <Erlang> na7e: oh nevermind what I say then :D
[05:44] <na7e> Erlang, okie :)
[05:44] <Erlang> oh that ck7 patch is magic.  I love it.
[09:14] <ajmitch> morning
[09:18] <LaserJock> morning ajmitch
[09:49] <LaserJock> hmm, is setting the locale and TZ different in a chroot?
[10:00] <Kyral> hmm
[10:00] <Kyral> I should get around to reinstalling PBuilder
[10:03] <dholbach> good night guys
[10:03] <LaserJock> cya dholbach
[10:58] <LaserJock> raphink: ping?
[11:45] <crimsun> ajmitch: please try linux 2.6.15-19.29 and verify that your sound is audible, thanks.