[01:48] <neuralis> fabbione: ping
[01:49] <fabbione> neuralis: pong
[01:49] <neuralis> i had a quick question about the server kernel; we're shipping that with HZ=100, right?
[01:49] <fabbione> yes we should
[01:49] <neuralis> what's the rationale? i seem to recall there being a ton of synchronization troubles on SMP machines running at HZ=100, no?
[01:50] <fabbione> i am not 100% sure
[01:50] <fabbione> it's something related to the scheduler
[01:50] <fabbione> you better ask BenC directly
[01:50] <fabbione> my memory starts to fall apart..
[01:50] <neuralis> okay, will do
[01:51] <neuralis> i'm about to send in the server chapter for the book in a few hours
[01:51] <neuralis> let me know if you'd like the editor to send you a copy for comments
[01:52] <fabbione> i really have no time for it
[01:52] <fabbione> go ahead
[01:52] <fabbione> i am confident in what you do
[01:52] <neuralis> thanks, fabio. okay, i'm going to go finish things up. cheers!
[02:14] <hunger> Lure: The parser for /etc/network/interfaces is bogus!
[02:14] <hunger> Lure: It accepts the interface lines if "inet dhcp" is on a different line from "iface eth0"!
[02:15] <hunger> Lure: ... which unfortunately is not valid in ifup/down.
[02:15] <hunger> Oh, sorry... wrong channel again.
[03:14] <juuva> would it be possible to update asterisk packages to repositoryes?
[03:16] <juuva> current version in repository is Filename: pool/universe/a/asterisk/asterisk_1.0.9.dfsg-1_i386.deb
[03:16] <juuva> and development goes currently somewhere in 1.2.4 which is stable
[03:17] <fabbione> juuva: you are asking in the wrong chan
[03:18] <fabbione> that's universe -> #ubuntu-motu
[03:18] <juuva> thanks :)
[03:18] <juuva> didn't know about that
[03:20] <thefish> what changes are planned for the dapper release of server? I searched but couldnt find anything solid. Is it best to wait for this release than install 5.10?
[03:21] <thefish> from what I could see, 5.10 server release would only have 18 months of support, same as desktop, but 6.04(6.06?) will have 5 years, is this true?
[03:26] <neuralis> thefish: yes, that's correct.
[03:56] <thefish> neuralis: thank you, i will wait then
[04:22] <mad_phoenix> since Debian generally splits apache's httpd.conf into many different files, what would be the appropriate place for php_flag and php_value configuration options?
[04:38] <thefish> mad_phoenix: not sure if you can do it per site
[04:38] <thefish> but i guess you would just edit /etc/php[4|5] /apache2/php.ini depending on your setup
[08:22] <Bigredman74> Hello all. I need some quick help with a server question.
[08:25] <Bigredman74> We currently have cable internet in our office and we want the server to share this connection.
[08:26] <Bigredman74> We currently have a windows work group set up for print sharing.
[08:26] <Bigredman74> And we connect via a router that's connected to the cable modem.
[08:27] <Bigredman74> The question, where should the server be located? Connected to the rounter, or should the router be connected the server?
[08:27] <hunger> Bigredman74: ?
[08:27] <Bigredman74> The server will be used a web server for select employees.
[08:28] <hunger> Bigredman74: Is that server for internet users to use or internal only?
[08:29] <Bigredman74> We have three locations, and we want to use the server to store and share large files and graphics.
[08:30] <juuva> server should be connected to router which has accesslist to allow connection from selected networks
[08:30] <hunger> Yes, or you could have the router connect to the other sites in a VPN.
[08:30] <hunger> Bigredman74: In both cases you should connect the server just like the others to the router.
[08:32] <hunger> Bigredman74: I'd never put a server that is used for internal stuff in front of the router (which probably does some packet filtering).
[08:33] <Bigredman74> So attaching the web server behind the router will allow any one typing in the server's IP to acces it?
[08:33] <juuva> if router allows access to it
[08:33] <hunger> Bigredman74: Depends on how your router is configured.
[08:34] <Bigredman74> Okay, I've looked at the router and I think I know where to configure this.
[08:34] <hunger> Bigredman74: Usually you only have one IP address that is visible on the internet.
[08:34] <hunger> Bigredman74: That is used by the router. It "hides" all the local machines behind that address.
[08:34] <Bigredman74> Yes, when I type in the IP address, currently the router login pops up.
[08:35] <hunger> Bigredman74: From the internet?!?!
[08:35] <hunger> Bigredman74: You should turn that off!
[08:35] <juuva> that's kind of bad thing to happen..
[08:35] <Bigredman74> Yes, I'm assuming there's a setting somewhere in the router to forward it to the router.
[08:35] <Bigredman74> Uh oh.
[08:36] <hunger> Bigredman74: You should only be able to access the router from the local net or someone somewhere might get funny ideas.
[08:36] <juuva> routers should not be allowed to configure from internet, usually password protection used on them is quite weak
[08:37] <hunger> Bigredman74: Anyway: You can usually configure the router to pass on packets arriving on the internet for a certain port.
[08:37] <hunger> Bigredman74: That way you can forward the packets to some machine in the LAN.
[08:38] <Bigredman74> Ok, I'm going to take another look at that router right now.
[08:38] <juuva> DMZ would propably be keyword
[08:38] <hunger> Bigredman74: I wouldn't run sensitive internal services (i.e. printing) on a machine accessible from the outside though.
[08:39] <hunger> Bigredman74: I'd use either a VPN between the sites (that way they become a virtual LAN where everyone has access to all machines), thus making the "server" obsolete.
[08:40] <hunger> Bigredman74: Or put the server in a DMZ (if the router supports that) or at least on a separate system with all kinds of hardening.
[08:41] <juuva> or simply limiting access to only needed services from internet
[08:43] <Bigredman74> Thanks for advice. This is one the great things about the Ubuntu community. People like you guys taking the time and having the patience to help n00bs like me. Thanks again.
[08:43] <hunger> Bigredman74: You are welcome.
[10:50] <asw> fabbione : ping