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| mgalvin | opinions needed... | 01:58 |
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| mgalvin | i keep getting requests by various users to change the dates on the previous flight reviews to reflect the new dates | 01:58 |
| mgalvin | these are old docs now so i first thought to leave them alone | 01:59 |
| mgalvin | but it may be best to change them | 01:59 |
| mgalvin | do you guys think they should changed or be left as is? | 01:59 |
| crimsun | I think it's a good idea to point them to the announcement made by sabdfl | 01:59 |
| crimsun | personally, yeah, they should be amended (with the modification clearly noted) | 02:00 |
| Burgwork | I would change them (with it a note) | 02:00 |
| Burgwork | ie (Now delayed to June 1st. 2006) | 02:00 |
| mgalvin | ok so i will amend them with a note and link to sabdfl's announcement | 02:02 |
| mgalvin | thnx guys | 02:02 |
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| joelbryan | The Ubuntu Welcome Page is using XHTML Transitional, just wondering if you would plan to make it strict? | 02:03 |
| joelbryan | I'm referring to the one that loads when you start firefox | 02:04 |
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| theCore | LaserJock: hi | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | hi theCore | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | how's it going? | 03:57 |
| theCore | i'm a bit tired... but I'm up for working on the PG | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | sweet | 03:59 |
| theCore | LaserJock: I heard about a 2 weeks deadline for the PG | 04:00 |
| theCore | is it right ? | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | because the Dapper schedule got pushed | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | theCore: that is 2 weeks beyond the old DocStringFreeze | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | theCore: btw, I set up a status report for each chapter and sect1 at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/status/pg-report.html | 04:19 |
| Madpilot | LaserJock, you did the tweaks to the status tags, right? | 04:21 |
| LaserJock | Madpilot: no, that was Jeff Schering | 04:25 |
| Madpilot | ah | 04:25 |
| Madpilot | it makes the status pages way, way more useful, anyway. | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | Madpilot: yeah | 04:25 |
| Madpilot | the comments are a nice touch, too | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | I'm interested in the info tags too he was talking about | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | I just wish I had less "Help Wanted" and more "Finished" ;-) | 04:27 |
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| LaserJock | hi mdke | 04:59 |
| robotgeek | hey all | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | hi robotgeek | 05:00 |
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| mdke | bhuvan, awesome stuff on the serverguide | 08:53 |
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| blacking | hello all | 07:46 |
| LaserJock | hi blacking | 07:46 |
| blacking | always the same problem.. | 07:46 |
| blacking | the wiki page of ubuntu explain the procedure how install ubuntu into an usb drive, but only for x86 platform | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | blacking: which wiki page are you talking about? | 07:48 |
| blacking | i need to do this also with Apple.. | 07:48 |
| blacking | wait | 07:48 |
| blacking | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick | 07:51 |
| blacking | i am sure that it's possible make the same job with Apple, but i haven't too experience .. | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | blacking: I'm guessing that is the problem. People have to try it to write the wiki page | 07:55 |
| blacking | ok | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | so I guess the key is to make the USB stick bootable for a mac | 07:58 |
| LaserJock | blacking: I'm looking at some article that sugges that it isn't even possible to boot from a USB stick with a mac | 08:06 |
| robotgeek | it should be | 08:07 |
| LaserJock | Apple says they don't support it although it *might* work | 08:07 |
| robotgeek | blacking: all you need is to add the usb modules to your kernel, and boot from it | 08:07 |
| robotgeek | blacking: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 , but with ppc modifications | 08:08 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: geeze, there are 31 pages. where did you find the ppc stuff? | 08:11 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: there are none, just follow the first post appropriately modifying it | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: but that is for installing onto a USB drive, right? | 08:12 |
| robotgeek | yes, but those are for x86. ppc has no grub | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | blacking: is interested in putting the .iso on a USB stick to install from | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | not to | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | I think anyway | 08:13 |
| robotgeek | hmm, it should be possible, macs support usb booting anyways | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | do they? I'm reading both yes and now | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | s/now/no | 08:14 |
| robotgeek | Command-Option-F-F on bootup, i think | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: do you have to do anything special to have it be bootable? | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: I'm just looking at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106474 | 08:15 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: i think that is for OS X, linux should do fine i think. i a mnot very sure, though | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | I'm also reading some blogs, etc. that say the firewire drive boot but USB don't | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | because Firewire is firmware and USB is software | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | but I also found http://rentzsch.com/tidbits/intelbasedMacBootIncompatibility that says that Intel macs can boot USB ;-) | 08:20 |
| robotgeek | heh | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I have a couple small sticks here. I wonder if I should try booting some *really* small linux distro just to see if it works | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: grrr, I think I can boot off a USB stick with my Intel mac except it doesn't have a BIOS so no linux distro would work :( | 08:37 |
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| robotgeek | LaserJock: i think you can use CMD + option + F to boot from usb | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: right, but you have to have EFI support on what you are booting :( | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | for Intel macs | 08:53 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: hmm, okay | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | which is why I can't install any linux (or Windows I guess, but who would want to do that) at the moment | 08:54 |
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| blacking | sorry laser.. | 09:16 |
| blacking | problem with the internet | 09:17 |
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| littlepaul | hi | 09:24 |
| littlepaul | littlepaul> dholbach, What is meant in flight 5 with "Graphical Power Tools" http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5 I see that just gdebi is described. Do you have a hint where I can find more information? | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | wb blacking | 09:25 |
| littlepaul | <dholbach> littlepaul: you should maybe ask the guys who wrote the page, maybe ask in #ubuntu-doc | 09:25 |
| littlepaul | LaserJock, could you answer my question? | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | littlepaul: just a sec | 09:27 |
| LaserJock | littlepaul: what do you want to know specifically? that is a somewhat vague question | 09:29 |
| littlepaul | LaserJock, I read the text about "Graphical Power Tools" and I thought to read a description about a set of tools but there was just one tool mentioned and I want to ask if there are more details regarding this. I searched the forum, wiki but did not found nothing proper | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | littlepaul: I think it is a general description, not an actual program. It is just a way of listing some more advanced tools that are graphical. | 09:32 |
| LaserJock | but I could be wrong. I didn't write that doc | 09:32 |
| littlepaul | LaserJock, thx for answer; maby I should ask mgalvin | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | littlepaul: that would be the best person to ask | 09:34 |
| littlepaul | so ping mgalvin :) | 09:34 |
| mgalvin | littlepaul: pong | 09:45 |
| mgalvin | = Graphical Power Tools = is an intro section to the actual tools like gdebi... | 09:47 |
| mgalvin | there are more then just he one tool, but they gotten hidden from the gnome menu just before the flight 5 release | 09:47 |
| mgalvin | s/he/the/ | 09:47 |
| LaserJock | mgalvin: but they are installed? | 09:48 |
| mgalvin | yes, i believe so, they are part of gnome | 09:49 |
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| littlepaul | I appreciate this, thx | 09:49 |
| mgalvin | http://live.gnome.org/PowerUserTools | 09:50 |
| mgalvin | and | 09:50 |
| mgalvin | http://live.gnome.org/UnixPowerForDesktop | 09:50 |
| mgalvin | some things are in GNOME 2.14 some are not | 09:50 |
| mgalvin | littlepaul: np | 09:50 |
| mgalvin | also, some are available for install in universe | 09:51 |
| littlepaul | mgalvin, thx for this great Info | 09:51 |
| LaserJock | so how are you supposed to use them if they aren't in the Menu? | 09:51 |
| mgalvin | littlepaul: sure, no prob | 09:51 |
| mgalvin | hehe, thank menus revisited for that... | 09:52 |
| mgalvin | well... | 09:52 |
| mgalvin | for example gdebi is available via right click on a .deb | 09:52 |
| mgalvin | the others may work there way into the menus dapper+1 | 09:53 |
| mgalvin | i would think | 09:53 |
| littlepaul | k | 09:53 |
| mgalvin | you could also just use alacarte and make them show up in the menu | 09:54 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I'm just really having issues with MenusRevisited :/ | 09:55 |
| mgalvin | me too, i guess for new users it better but for us it is a bother, meh i just turn back on what i need :) | 09:56 |
| LaserJock | I don't think it does new users and service to hide applications from them | 09:57 |
| LaserJock | I think most users are curious as to what they have on their computer | 09:57 |
| mgalvin | LaserJock: very true | 09:59 |
| blacking | laser do you think possible install Hoary or Breezy B into an usb drive for ppc filesystem? | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | blacking: onto a usb drive or from a usb drive? | 10:02 |
| blacking | sorry onto | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | I think so | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek's suggestion of http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 looks like it might work | 10:03 |
| blacking | probably laser, but i ignore the right rules.. | 10:04 |
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