=== jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp195-131.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:58] opinions needed... [01:58] i keep getting requests by various users to change the dates on the previous flight reviews to reflect the new dates [01:59] these are old docs now so i first thought to leave them alone [01:59] but it may be best to change them [01:59] do you guys think they should changed or be left as is? [01:59] I think it's a good idea to point them to the announcement made by sabdfl [02:00] personally, yeah, they should be amended (with the modification clearly noted) [02:00] I would change them (with it a note) [02:00] ie (Now delayed to June 1st. 2006) [02:02] ok so i will amend them with a note and link to sabdfl's announcement [02:02] thnx guys === joelbryan [n=joelbrya@210.213.158.66] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:03] The Ubuntu Welcome Page is using XHTML Transitional, just wondering if you would plan to make it strict? [02:04] I'm referring to the one that loads when you start firefox === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4205619.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:57] LaserJock: hi [03:57] hi theCore [03:57] how's it going? [03:58] i'm a bit tired... but I'm up for working on the PG [03:59] sweet [04:00] LaserJock: I heard about a 2 weeks deadline for the PG [04:00] is it right ? [04:01] yeah [04:01] because the Dapper schedule got pushed [04:02] theCore: that is 2 weeks beyond the old DocStringFreeze [04:19] theCore: btw, I set up a status report for each chapter and sect1 at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/status/pg-report.html [04:21] LaserJock, you did the tweaks to the status tags, right? [04:25] Madpilot: no, that was Jeff Schering [04:25] ah [04:25] it makes the status pages way, way more useful, anyway. [04:25] Madpilot: yeah [04:25] the comments are a nice touch, too [04:25] I'm interested in the info tags too he was talking about [04:27] I just wish I had less "Help Wanted" and more "Finished" ;-) === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:59] hi mdke [05:00] hey all [05:00] hi robotgeek === robotgeek checks knetworkmanager instructions === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-18-225.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:53] bhuvan, awesome stuff on the serverguide === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team - general discussion - backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | Website http://doc.ubuntu.com | Get involved: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: 31 March 2006, 2100UTC https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by Madpilot at Mon Mar 20 10:04:17 2006 === Cturtle [n=Cturtle@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robotgee1 [n=robotgee@host-24-225-190-218.patmedia.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@82.109.136.110] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host86-128-13-71.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@82.109.136.110] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === blacking [n=ubuntu@81-174-13-193.f5.ngi.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:46] hello all [07:46] hi blacking [07:46] always the same problem.. [07:47] the wiki page of ubuntu explain the procedure how install ubuntu into an usb drive, but only for x86 platform [07:48] blacking: which wiki page are you talking about? [07:48] i need to do this also with Apple.. [07:48] wait [07:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick [07:54] i am sure that it's possible make the same job with Apple, but i haven't too experience .. [07:55] blacking: I'm guessing that is the problem. People have to try it to write the wiki page [07:56] ok [07:58] so I guess the key is to make the USB stick bootable for a mac [08:06] blacking: I'm looking at some article that sugges that it isn't even possible to boot from a USB stick with a mac [08:07] it should be [08:07] Apple says they don't support it although it *might* work [08:07] blacking: all you need is to add the usb modules to your kernel, and boot from it [08:08] blacking: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 , but with ppc modifications [08:11] robotgeek: geeze, there are 31 pages. where did you find the ppc stuff? [08:12] LaserJock: there are none, just follow the first post appropriately modifying it [08:12] robotgeek: but that is for installing onto a USB drive, right? [08:13] yes, but those are for x86. ppc has no grub [08:13] blacking: is interested in putting the .iso on a USB stick to install from [08:13] not to [08:13] I think anyway [08:14] hmm, it should be possible, macs support usb booting anyways [08:14] do they? I'm reading both yes and now [08:14] s/now/no [08:15] Command-Option-F-F on bootup, i think [08:15] robotgeek: do you have to do anything special to have it be bootable? [08:15] robotgeek: I'm just looking at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106474 [08:19] LaserJock: i think that is for OS X, linux should do fine i think. i a mnot very sure, though [08:20] I'm also reading some blogs, etc. that say the firewire drive boot but USB don't [08:20] because Firewire is firmware and USB is software [08:20] but I also found http://rentzsch.com/tidbits/intelbasedMacBootIncompatibility that says that Intel macs can boot USB ;-) [08:21] heh [08:22] hmm, I have a couple small sticks here. I wonder if I should try booting some *really* small linux distro just to see if it works [08:37] robotgeek: grrr, I think I can boot off a USB stick with my Intel mac except it doesn't have a BIOS so no linux distro would work :( === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:53] LaserJock: i think you can use CMD + option + F to boot from usb [08:53] robotgeek: right, but you have to have EFI support on what you are booting :( [08:53] for Intel macs [08:53] LaserJock: hmm, okay [08:54] which is why I can't install any linux (or Windows I guess, but who would want to do that) at the moment === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === blacking [n=ubuntu@81-174-13-193.f5.ngi.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:16] sorry laser.. [09:17] problem with the internet === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084C05D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:24] hi [09:25] littlepaul> dholbach, What is meant in flight 5 with "Graphical Power Tools" http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5 I see that just gdebi is described. Do you have a hint where I can find more information? [09:25] wb blacking [09:25] littlepaul: you should maybe ask the guys who wrote the page, maybe ask in #ubuntu-doc [09:26] LaserJock, could you answer my question? [09:27] littlepaul: just a sec [09:29] littlepaul: what do you want to know specifically? that is a somewhat vague question [09:31] LaserJock, I read the text about "Graphical Power Tools" and I thought to read a description about a set of tools but there was just one tool mentioned and I want to ask if there are more details regarding this. I searched the forum, wiki but did not found nothing proper [09:32] littlepaul: I think it is a general description, not an actual program. It is just a way of listing some more advanced tools that are graphical. [09:32] but I could be wrong. I didn't write that doc [09:33] LaserJock, thx for answer; maby I should ask mgalvin [09:34] littlepaul: that would be the best person to ask [09:34] so ping mgalvin :) [09:45] littlepaul: pong [09:47] = Graphical Power Tools = is an intro section to the actual tools like gdebi... [09:47] there are more then just he one tool, but they gotten hidden from the gnome menu just before the flight 5 release [09:47] s/he/the/ [09:48] mgalvin: but they are installed? [09:49] yes, i believe so, they are part of gnome === mgalvin finds the link [09:49] I appreciate this, thx [09:50] http://live.gnome.org/PowerUserTools [09:50] and [09:50] http://live.gnome.org/UnixPowerForDesktop [09:50] some things are in GNOME 2.14 some are not [09:50] littlepaul: np [09:51] also, some are available for install in universe [09:51] mgalvin, thx for this great Info [09:51] so how are you supposed to use them if they aren't in the Menu? [09:51] littlepaul: sure, no prob [09:52] hehe, thank menus revisited for that... [09:52] well... [09:52] for example gdebi is available via right click on a .deb [09:53] the others may work there way into the menus dapper+1 [09:53] i would think [09:53] k [09:54] you could also just use alacarte and make them show up in the menu [09:55] yeah, I'm just really having issues with MenusRevisited :/ [09:56] me too, i guess for new users it better but for us it is a bother, meh i just turn back on what i need :) [09:57] I don't think it does new users and service to hide applications from them [09:57] I think most users are curious as to what they have on their computer [09:59] LaserJock: very true [10:02] laser do you think possible install Hoary or Breezy B into an usb drive for ppc filesystem? [10:02] blacking: onto a usb drive or from a usb drive? [10:02] sorry onto [10:03] I think so [10:03] robotgeek's suggestion of http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 looks like it might work [10:04] probably laser, but i ignore the right rules.. === manicka is now known as manicka|work === lloydinho [n=andreas@130.225.237.58] has joined #ubuntu-doc === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084C05D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Ex-Chat"] === mpt [n=mpt@82.109.136.110] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === k3o [n=gh0st_sh@148.221.40.112] has joined #ubuntu-doc