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[05:00] flint: hello [05:01] Spec, good morning from the Frozen North.... [05:01] flint, Spec, the hot down-under here? [05:01] Spec, YukiCuss: good to see you around - there's at least 2 points from the agenda that can be handled [05:01] I'm afraid it was too short notice for a few others [05:01] ahh .au team [05:02] :) === stgraber [i=steph@xeon.stargate-server.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:03] Seveas, based upon the current situation, I would wonder who is here from Media? :^) I am just here to get Nick Wheeler as a MOTU [05:03] flint, today no one is appointed MOTU - it's all about membership [05:03] that's TB [05:03] Kamion, elmo, mako - ping [05:03] 16:03 UTC here === Florob [n=Florian@xdsl-81-173-174-144.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:04] flint: membership first [05:04] Seveas, that is not what was said two weeks ago. can you send the agenda url to the screen? [05:04] wiki/CommunityCouncilAgenda [05:04] flint, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda ? [05:04] Seveas, thanks. [05:05] flint, you need to be a member before you can become a MOTU - for membership a cheerleading squad from the community is needed [05:05] YukiCuss, thanks even more :^) [05:05] for becoming motu you need other motus to vouch for you [05:05] Seveas, I represent the cheerleading squad. I am not interested in being a member of anything. [05:06] flint, ok, put on your dress and start dancing around [05:06] I was drafted into being the first DC LOCO [05:06] flint's my cheerleader? dear lord... [05:06] what happened? [05:06] Seveas, my dancing is kinda like watching the Hindenburg land at Lakehurst NJ... [05:07] flint, that's way better than mine so go for it [05:07] anyway - the idle times of the CC members aren't promising... === sabdfl [n=mark@82.109.136.110] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:07] there's one [05:07] hi mark! [05:07] hi folks [05:07] sabdfl! :) [05:07] sorry to be late [05:07] 2 mor [05:07] e [05:07] you're the first one here for a change [05:08] sabdfl: actually you're not late [05:08] sabdfl, Hey Mark! [05:08] flint! long time no see [05:08] CC meting due now? [05:08] yes [05:08] sabdfl, trying to stay out of trouble... :^) [05:08] meeting, that is [05:08] kamion/mako/elmo not in sight [05:08] flint: you and me both [05:09] we seem to have low attendance today [05:09] ok, have pinged the guys, will sms kamion and elmo too, sec [05:09] I'm here [05:09] hi elmo! [05:10] sabdfl, if you want I can go wake up mdz :^) ...nah... [05:10] i can sms mako, if need be. [05:10] flint, mdz isn't on the CC ;) === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:10] flint, hey, youre here to work, not for your hobbies :) [05:10] ogra, lol [05:11] ogra, waking mdz is a religious experience! [05:11] flint: what is this about? :) wiki.ubuntu.com/gins [05:11] gins? [05:11] highvoltage, changed the name to wiki.ubuntu.com/gin like the drink mostly... [05:11] heh [05:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda [05:13] links2 doesn't support ssl :-/ [05:13] vidya was asking earlier about recognition for hte Ubuntu Women's team [05:13] flint: you are a menace to sleep === seb128 [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-36-229.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:14] elmo: are you happy to start without Kamion and mako, and then we can ask them to +1 / -1 member candidates based on the log and email? [05:14] sabdfl: sure, if you want [05:14] ok, lets do that [05:14] kamion said something about picking someone up from school [05:14] morning mdz === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:14] locoteams! [05:14] gin is gnome instant nationalizaiton, a command line tool to change languages. [05:14] they need it in edubuntu classrooms.... not a big deal... [05:14] talked to olli about it and he seemd to be ok with it. [05:14] YukiCuss: ping [05:14] later refactor in python and hook it to a gui if you want. [05:14] sabdfl, hello! :) [05:14] flint: shhh [05:14] tell us about ubuntu down under === rbelem [n=rodrigo@ubuntu/member/rbelem] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:15] mdz damn, good morning!!! [05:15] We're just starting up work, more or less, but so far it's looking very promising. [05:15] gotta love random disconnects... [05:15] did I miss anything? [05:15] i don't think so [05:15] flint: I've been up since 0600, but damn you anyway [05:15] We've had our first meeting (just today), and we've got a roadmap organised (more or less) for how we're going to tackle various projects around here. [05:15] Seveas: just getting started [05:15] thanks [05:15] YukiCuss: where's here? [05:15] sabdfl, here is Australia. :) [05:15] that's a big place [05:15] heh [05:15] We've got members all along the east coast so far. [05:16] And we're hoping that we can find some more elsewhere. [05:16] (Kamion is on his way) [05:16] YukiCuss, cool, what are you focussing on as team? [05:16] YukiCuss: nice wiki page, wide spread of members across the country [05:16] YukiCuss: are you all setup w.r.t. virtual server if you want it? [05:16] Seveas, at the moment we're looking at the three major groups; home users, business, and school. [05:16] hi, sorry I'm late, was picking the child up from school and had to run an errand in the meantime [05:16] sabdfl, yep, we've got that pretty much organised, just letting the delay of email take its toll :) [05:17] Kamion: no worries, mate [05:17] g'day [05:17] ok, YukiCuss, are you the group leader, have you had any process to confirm that internally? [05:17] sigh [05:17] Particularly we're inspecting schools; demonstrations of how Ubuntu can be used inside a school, and also FOSS. [05:18] sabdfl, I am the group leader, and it's been confirmed that I'm the team contact at a meeting. [05:18] We had our first one today, it worked out well. :) [05:18] YukiCuss, do you promote edubuntu too? [05:18] YukiCuss, you should get in contact with the edubuntu community :) [05:18] it's nice for the CC to have a primary contact for a loco team - so that's great [05:18] anything you'd like from the CC? [05:18] Seveas, ogra, of course. [05:19] increase the sheilas! [05:19] =) === svaksha [n=svaksha@unaffiliated/svaksha] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:19] sabdfl, at the moment, we're hoping that we can get some form of priority with ShipIt; we'd like to be able to get Dapper out here as quickly as we can, before the rush. [05:19] jerome, you suggesting we have sufficient sheep? [05:19] (rush of downloads begins, that is; I think the convenience of a real CD will overwhelm them :)) [05:20] Other than that, we're going to keep self-regulating (meeting every fortnight has been agreed on and seems to be convenient), and see how we can let our projects take off. [05:20] YukiCuss: local production an distribution depends on having a company locally that can do it well at great prices, if you have nominations, the right person to ping is hmb [05:20] on freenode [05:20] hande@canonical.com [05:20] Thanks! [05:21] YukiCuss: we've yet to find a regional company that can do it cost effectively, but would love to get it working well [05:21] sabdfl, we've got a few people who are very interested in doing local mailouts. [05:21] YukiCuss, local mailouts rock [05:21] we can probably do high priority shipment after release if you have a specific function or requirement [05:22] it's quite popular here in NL too [05:22] anyway, thank you for checking in, and thanks for setting up the team [05:22] No problems! ^^ [05:22] Thank you. [05:22] YukiCuss, and sleep well ;) [05:22] Kuyaedz? [05:22] not around [05:22] tried to ping him to no avail [05:22] ok, let's move on [05:23] members or women? === sabdfl notes that Michael Moore is an interesting person to have on a Loco Team :) [05:23] sheilas! [05:23] haha [05:23] heh === YukiCuss grins. [05:23] :) [05:23] is svaksha here? [05:23] yes , Vidya Ayer here [05:23] "#ubuntu-women on Freenode - officially recognised or not." [05:23] svaksha: would you introduce Ubuntu Women, please? [05:24] is there such a thing as an official channel? [05:24] sure, [05:24] well I dont about the official bit ... [05:25] svaksha pinged me earlier by email [05:25] Ubuntu Women is a group functioning under Ubuntu to provide a platform and encouragement for women to contribute to Ubuntu-Linux Membership is open to all. [05:25] asking about official recognition of UbuntuWomen by Canonical, and I think recognition by the CC is more important [05:25] the non-official part i heard from another forums member Susana [05:25] ok [05:26] svaksha: are there several different groups that are related to "women in ubuntu", or is your group the primary initiative? [05:26] I realy don't like to see women as a separate group, sounds very sexist - but I'm probably missing something [05:27] Seveas: you are missing something [05:27] Seveas: we'll do ubuntu-blokes don't worry [05:27] Seveas: you should probably review the history of debian women === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.241.33] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:27] Seveas: that deeply flawed argument has come up before [05:27] i tihnk it's very worthwhile to have a group focused on this [05:28] after I wrote to you last year , panickthumb from the forums mentiioned about this and I asked him to contact you or canonical directly [05:28] elmo, ok [05:28] as long as we never have folks suggesting that the ONLY place for women in ubuntu is that group === baks17 [n=barkha@59.182.86.61] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:28] right [05:28] i've been on the debian-women mailing list before, i've never seen so many "*hugs*" on a list before :) [05:28] are there any other comments on the idea of having a group focused on "women in ubuntu"? [05:28] sabdfl, i dont know what happened after that but I noticed a URL registered in Dec and in Jan got your OK [05:28] highvoltage, you dont share a list with dholbach, do you ? [05:29] :) [05:29] there is some concern that different groups are trying to achieve the same thing [05:29] ogra: yep :) debian-women have mor! [05:29] i would like to make sure everyone is talking together [05:29] sabdfl: the u-w list has been pretty active (im subscribed) [05:29] there's lots of promise [05:29] jsgotangco: me too :-) [05:29] hah [05:30] i've been on the debian-women mailing list before, i've never seen so many "*hugs*" on a list before <-- sounds like a list for dholbach [05:30] svaksha: can we consolidate the different domains that have been registered by different people? [05:30] and make sure everyone's working on the same initiative? [05:30] are there any reasons why that should not happen? [05:30] i think that ubuntu-women might be a good idea, not as a feminist activist group, or as a group for just women, but as a forum to discuss the general involvement of women in the project [05:30] no [05:31] the issue is that there are a lot of unofficial UW sites / blogs / wikis ... we should try and get them together to avoid redundancy [05:31] and to monitor current community activities and evaluate how we can involve the other half of the world population in ubuntu [05:31] svaksha: so have you chatted with susana, and you're certain that she's happy to work with you? [05:31] highvoltage, agreed, as long as it's NEVER going to be women-welcom-only or women-only-welcome-there which is what I'm a bit afraid of [05:31] Seveas: we will make certain of that, yes [05:31] Seveas: agreed, I would think that 'they' feel the same [05:31] i did ask her to bring up the issue on the list [05:31] Seveas, highvoltage i think thats up to the team to define itself ;) [05:31] highvoltage: mentorship seems valuable too [05:32] yes [05:32] its been asked [05:32] ogra, true that [05:32] its not women only ...please read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen [05:32] i'm pretty certain mako would be thrilled with this :-) [05:32] do I dare ask why? [05:32] ogra: also agreed, it was just my attempt to explain that a group about women in Ubuntu may add value [05:32] very nicely done wiki page, svaksha [05:32] How many members are on the u-w list? [05:32] thanks [05:33] around 70+ [05:33] I like how that page lists technical skills first [05:33] yes but that scares away newcomers so Clytie toned it down a little [05:33] the wikipage looks very nice indeed [05:33] a lot of women's-groups pages I've seen have almost seemed embarrassed at the idea that technical skills might be involved, which always seemed incongruous to me - I like what you have there [05:34] oh, is that Clytie Siddall (spelling?) [05:34] yep [05:34] cool, encountered her sending huge piles of Vietnamese translations [05:34] :) [05:34] The Ubuntu community is very well represented by the male persuasion, yet women are a precious precious to this. As an individual married for over a quarter-century let me give you all some advice. They want a room, they get a room. [05:35] #ubuntu-women it is then ;-) [05:35] thanks :) [05:35] yay! [05:35] ok, any further comments? [05:35] :) [05:35] yes, one comment [05:35] Welcome! [05:35] :) [05:35] ditto :-) === psusi wonders why they feel the need to associate with each other... have their own channel... go to the bathroom with each other... weird. [05:36] thanks to you all for the support and the CC too :) [05:36] psusi, 42 [05:36] haha [05:36] psusi, if that is all you ever worry about... [05:36] ok, shall we move on to new members? [05:36] :^) [05:36] psusi: there are greater mysteries in life [05:36] like handbags [05:36] i'm doing some research in this regard [05:36] psusi: AIUI, the channel is welcoming male people as well? [05:36] heh [05:37] sabdfl: it's a dead end. give up and run away while you still can. [05:37] sabdfl, they come from the bermuda triangle it seems [05:37] ok [05:37] half the world can disappear into it [05:37] members! [05:37] supposedly one guy completely figured out how women work [05:37] Spec, your 3-liner please [05:37] but he died of laughing before he could tell anyone [05:37] Spec == NicholasWeeler [05:38] Whatsisname: easy, tiger [05:38] Hello, I'm Nicholas Wheeler, and I'm applying for membership to help with the Ubuntu cause. I'm interested in becomming a MOTU eventually. [05:38] Currently I'm involved in bug triaging of all sorts -- particularly interested in making the science packages, err, work. [05:38] is the MOTU cheerleading squad arround to support Spec ? [05:38] I am here to vouch for Nick. He is a good hack. [05:39] elkner would be here but he is busy teaching newer hacks. [05:39] he wrote a great Howto on the wiki for mondo/mindi use :) [05:39] \o/ from me for doing bug triaging [05:39] I also wrote a how-to for the broadcom 43xx card [05:39] ogra, indeed he did. [05:39] we need much more bug triagers [05:40] Seveas, i fully intend to understand Malone, I promise I will if you pass Nick. [05:40] :^) [05:40] Spec, your wikipage is not completely clear - for how long have you been contributong to Ubuntu? [05:40] Contributing, only a couple of months. [05:41] I've been using it since hoary I think. [05:41] hehe... 42 [05:41] couple of months sounds good, any MOTU to confirm that? [05:41] ogra, ? [05:42] I have not status here but I can confirm that by direct observation. === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:42] flint, how is the DC loco doing, dormant or active? [05:42] Seveas, he is the webmaster of the DC LoCo team, when went that online ;) [05:42] Seveas, the DC loco is represented by Kjcole who just joined. It is VERY active. ask him. [05:43] It is very active. :) [05:43] nice [05:43] Spec, are you innvolved in the edubuntu deployment thing in DC ? [05:43] kjcole, you need to say something glib, I know you can... [05:43] Hi all. Sorry to be late. ;-) [05:43] hi Kevin - please help Spec by cheerleading [05:43] ogra: yeap [05:43] cool ! [05:43] The DC LoCo's now got a few active bzr projects starting up. [05:43] Spec: how was FOSE? === ogra cheers for Spec [05:44] very very successful, gave out 1300 ubuntu cds [05:44] thats quite a lot [05:44] (+1300 opensuse, but that doesn't matter) [05:44] WOW [05:44] Nick and I represented the LoCo at FOSE, and it was a great show. [05:44] We were very popular at the convention. [05:44] that MondoMindi page is pretty hideously hackish; can we please get the existing packages up to scratch instead? [05:44] Being next to the bathrooms has it's advantages, i'll have to say... [05:44] (I need some point of reference - how big is the DC area, how many people live there?) [05:45] +1 from me on Spec for membership based on advocacy and bug triage, not sure if elmo or kamion have additional questions [05:45] Kamion: I believe in dapper they are up to scratch, in breezy it's a lost cause. [05:45] We also had the trifold Ubuntu brochures that I picked up at UBZ and handed those out as well. === atoponce [n=aaron@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:45] ah, I see that in the wiki page now, although it's kind of brief and easy to skip over, maybe a bit more text is called for so that people don't go to more work than necessary [05:45] fair enough [05:45] (Unfortunately, I didn't have quite as many of those brochures. And I now wish I'd had bumper stickers as well.) [05:46] yeah, kamion++, that wiki page is making me cry [05:46] Kamion, I am responsible for the hackishness of these pages, not nick. [05:46] kjcole: wink and you shall receive (hopefully) [05:46] I'll edit flint's work to make it prettier :) [05:46] if the "Not needed for >= Dapper" bit at the top could be highlighted, that owuld be good [05:46] but in any event ack from me [05:46] other than that, no questions, the other work seems good, and I probably need to have a look over the bcm43xx page myself ... [05:46] jsgotangco, Yeah. My fault. I should have thought about those sooner. [05:47] so +1 from me [05:47] Kamion: It's pretty good, but there's lots of guess-work to get it working still. I think that's the driver's fault. [05:47] so +1 from Kamion? [05:47] done [05:47] welcome aboard [05:47] ok, congratz Spec ! [05:47] Spec, welcome :) [05:47] thank you :) [05:47] thank you all. [05:47] i'll approve it in LP [05:47] I have to thank my cheerleaders, as well :) === jelkner [n=jelkner@158.59.193.240] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:47] Seveas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_DC [05:47] jelkner, you're just in time to congratulate Spec... ;-) [05:47] congratulations! [05:47] hey jeff [05:48] the DC LoCo needed a MOTU [05:48] victor! [05:48] sabdfl: hi [05:48] bstqc_ostl around? [05:48] yeah DC LoCo Team! [05:48] probably not [05:48] sabdfl: i think you met this guy [05:49] i've met victor in beijing, would be lovely to have him as a member but i don't think the TZ works for this meeting [05:49] I spoke to him earlier, sounds like a good candidate [05:49] (So how do I get a ubuntu/memeber cloak? :p) [05:49] yes, very much so [05:49] but lets get him on board later [05:49] Spec, poke me in a /msg so I don't forget to do that [05:49] i can vouch for him too [05:49] ah, cool, he's the guy who sends the pdf testreports to -devel :) [05:49] yeah [05:50] yes, I'd like to see him as a member too [05:50] BlueT_, (Matthew Lien) is around it seems [05:50] BlueT_: ping [05:50] I communicated with him for the test plans and he has great ideas and put incredible work into testing hoary and breezy === Bigredman74 [n=Bigredma@68.62.169.39] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:51] BTW, since I arrived a little late, if it hadn't already been mentioned FOSE is in it's 30th year, as the largest US federal government computer convention... [05:51] BlueT_, is not around I guess [05:51] and neither is Kuyaedz [05:52] kjcole: do you think it';s a conference that should be on silbs' list? [05:52] that only leaves the topic of the next meeting. I think we should set a time right now [05:52] ok, I will update the wiki page for the meeting [05:52] when last did we do a UTC-morning meeting? === Kuyaedz [n=christer@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:52] for the AsiaPac characters? [05:52] Kuyaedz, right on time! [05:52] ah, welcome Kuyaedz [05:53] sabdfl, I think it would be nice to have an early morning meeting [05:53] Just got out of class :) ..glad someone came looking for me, I didn't know when this was. [05:53] ok if i steal Spec so i can get some work outta him? [05:53] Seveas: define early [05:53] sabdfl, I'll check. (I'm not familiar with what's type of stuff's already there, though I think I stumbled across that list before...) [05:53] jelkner: all yours [05:53] now that his head is all swelled and all [05:53] sabdfl, after Kuyaedz' topics have been handled [05:53] thank you all :p [05:53] cya all later [05:53] Kuyaedz, please introduce Ubuntu-Utah to us [05:54] cheers spec, jelkner [05:54] Ubuntu-Utah is a loco team I started a few months ago. We've steadily been growing but are still relatively small. [05:55] how many members? [05:55] 11 members registered on the launchpad page, but I know of ~4-5 more that aren't 'official' yet. [05:55] around 10 - not too bad [05:56] We've got members at 3 Utah Universities, which I think is helpful. [05:56] not bad, 10 active members is good for a starting team [05:56] We've set a goal to double that by Dapper release. [05:57] What is the team doing to promote Ubuntu besides handing out CD's? [05:57] Kuyaedz: how active are you in the forums? [05:58] Well the CD distribution and team recruitment are the short-term goals that we're currently working on. In the long term we would like to present school districts with Ubuntu/Edubuntu. [05:58] sadbfl: I have roughly 750 forum posts. [05:58] Kuyaedz, nice [05:59] yeah ! [05:59] I'm quite happy with how the Utah team is forming the way I see now [05:59] Kuyaedz: have you seen the proposals about a forums council? [05:59] Kuyaedz, is there a specifi reason to use ubuntu-utah.org instead of ut.ubuntu-us.org? [05:59] Seveas: I'm glad to hear that. I have the day off today & was hoping to get more team-related work done. [05:59] sadbfl: I have not. [06:00] Seveas: There is not. I did not know who to contact concerning an official team site so I registered one. Also we have requested an official mailing list 3x with no responses. [06:00] Kuyaedz: was that request to jdub? [06:00] Kuyaedz, I was going to ask what you would like to see from the CC, but that's clear now [06:01] Kuyaedz: np, i appreciate your initiative in going ahead [06:01] IMHO the mailing list creation is a bit of a bottleneck as jdub is a very busy guy [06:01] G0SUB: would it help if we put mailing lists into LP? [06:01] We've been using a google-groups system for the time being. [06:01] Who is the contact for *.ubuntu-us.org, smurf or someone else? [06:01] sabdfl: yes it will [06:01] G0SUB: i think you mean "yes it might" ;-) [06:01] sabdfl, or simply give jdub an assistant [06:01] sabdfl: heh ... [06:02] Seveas: ++ [06:02] but, we've been looking at that here this week [06:02] we can do it, it will just take a little while === Mizar [n=Mizar@ubuntu/member/mizar] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [06:02] sabdfl: what about giving jdub an assistant? [06:02] I can help with this [06:02] fridge jr [06:02] Concerning the mailing list I contacted MathiasUlrich & also sent an email to Jeff Waugh. [06:02] heh [06:02] G0SUB: offer to help, i'm sure he will accept [06:03] sabdfl: should I mail him directly? [06:03] G0SUB, put my name in that mail to - I want to help there if possible [06:03] sabdfl: fine, I will CC you [06:03] thanks :) [06:04] Seveas: I was wondering if it would be possible to get a layout template so our team site could nearly match the look/feel of the central. [06:04] Kuyaedz: i think that's all public [06:04] Kuyaedz, as you can see the organizational things are sometimes problematic - but it'll be solved soon I guess. I will keep poking jdub/g0sub and smurf about it [06:05] Seveas: thank you [06:05] when did launchpad turn into sourceforge? [06:05] oh, one more thing ... can we put up the moinmoin, drupal themes used in u.c & fridge somewhere? [06:05] Kuyaedz, I have a PHP based template for ubuntulinux.nl - you might want to look at that after the meeting, but poke me after the meeting for that [06:05] so that people can reuse them? [06:05] Amaranth: when some of us had a spare weekend [06:05] sabdfl: hehe [06:05] haha [06:05] Seveas: will do [06:05] ok [06:05] Amaranth, pfft, sourceforge is sooo last century [06:05] seriously, about the only thing missing is bzr write [06:05] Kuyaedz: thanks for your work on Utah [06:05] sometimes its like friendster [06:05] what about your membership? [06:05] Amaranth, supermirror [06:05] Amaranth: it's coming [06:05] sadbfl: happy to do it. I just wish we had more time/resources :) [06:06] fairly soon, as it happens [06:06] cool [06:06] then i can use launchpad for alacarte instead of gnome cvs (eww) [06:06] Kuyaedz, lack of time is a global problem ;) [06:06] [06:06] [repeat] can we put up the moinmoin, drupal themes used in u.c & fridge somewhere? [06:06] Kuyaedz, habe you collected a cheerleeding swuad to support your membership application? [06:07] G0SUB: speak with henrik, they are already public somewhere [06:07] Kuyaedz: membership? [06:07] sabdfl: ok, thanks [06:07] Seveas: Well I was going to see what members of the team could come along, but even I didn't have much notice on the meeting :) [06:07] Kuyaedz, true. it was very short notice [06:07] sabdfl: What can I tell you about membership? Is there more I can do? [06:08] your wiki page is excellent [06:08] very happy to see the laptop testing info [06:09] sabdfl: I was hoping to update a few of those with Dapper results before the meeting.. === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [06:09] ok, +1 from me on membership and loco leadership, kamion and elmo may have more questions [06:09] +1 [06:09] sabdfl: thank you. [06:10] \o/ from me, wikipage looks good, active since october and doing great things in Utah [06:10] elmo: again, thank you. [06:10] +1 on the elmo-statue from you, Kuyaedz? [06:10] Kuyaedz: awesome! that's great :) [06:10] sabdfl, yes, we need an elmo statue [06:11] sabdfl: heh, I already spoke about it in the last meet [06:11] wrt the statue [06:11] Kuyaedz: have you applied for membership in ubuntumembers in LP? [06:11] sabdfl: I did [06:12] If there is anything else you'd like to see me do, or the team, don't hesitate to ask. [06:12] Kuyaedz: i don't see you in the list [06:12] what's your LP nick? display name? [06:12] or real name? [06:12] sabdfl: kuyaedz or christer-edwards [06:12] kuyaedz [06:12] I see him in the list [06:13] ok, it would be nice to put your proper name in the LP account [06:13] ok, sorry I've been discussing things elsewhere, +1 from me [06:13] done [06:13] welcome! [06:13] Kamion, great [06:13] thank you. [06:13] Kuyaedz, welcome aboard! [06:13] Kuyaedz: and thanks for the JigdoDownloadHowto page, I've been meaning to write something like that for a while [06:13] I'm very excited. thank you. [06:13] good work! [06:13] Kuyaedz: welcome! [06:13] congratulations Kuyaedz [06:13] congrats [06:14] congrats, Kuyaedz [06:14] congrats Kuyaedz [06:14] sabdfl, about the meeting time, given that the CC is in the UK largely 8/9AM UTC-ish? [06:14] Kamion: what's the drill on the meeting agenda page, should i delete the folks approved in the last meeting, make a note of those approved here, and delete those who did not show up? [06:14] sabdfl: yes, yes, no make a note of those who didn't show up === jdub [n=jdub@ppp121-112.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [06:14] Seveas: i'd prefer 10am, and excuse elmo :-) [06:14] sabdfl, usually I take care of the editing ;) [06:14] I'm glad I made it in time. The councilagenda page said "TBA". I was just hoping someone would contact me [06:14] yay! jdub [06:14] Kuyaedz, I tried [06:15] can we get mako at 10am UK time? [06:15] (fwiw, I can get up, if I need to) [06:15] ok, if we've got elmo then it doesn't matter [06:15] Seveas: atoponce mentioned in #ubuntu-utah. Thanks for coming to find me. [06:15] Kuyaedz, I barely managed. :) [06:15] 10am is ~4am mako-time iirc [06:15] sounds like a bad idea [06:15] Is there anything immediate that everyone would like to see done with the Utah Team? [06:15] (for him, that is) [06:16] jdub: did you see the stuff above about mailing list creation? [06:16] Kuyaedz, yes, one thing [06:16] Keep rocking! [06:16] Seveas: I will find you later concerning the template. Also should we migrate to ut.ubuntu-us.org? === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.241.33] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [06:17] Kuyaedz, you don't "have to" but it would be nice [06:17] (which reminds me, I should still migrate to ubuntu-nl.org) [06:17] Seveas: Should I also speak with you later about that & access? [06:17] Kuyaedz, yes, preferably in an hour or two (dinner time) [06:17] Kamion: no - but elmo's sorting out the RT queue for them, which will make it *vastly* easier to manage. [06:18] Kamion, sabdfl, elmo: so tue april4 10am UTC? [06:18] works for me [06:18] it'll be DST then === Surak [n=ubuntu@201009064104.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [06:18] Kamion: there's two pending atm, utah and ebuntu [06:18] jdub: can I be your assistant in setting up the mailing lists? [06:18] slightly better than today actually, sorry for setting a meeting time and then being late for it :) [06:18] errr... actually i might be on a flight to a conference [06:19] sabdfl, hmm, move the meeting to monday? [06:19] Seveas: that'll be 5am EST, so no dice if you're trying to get mako. [06:19] Seveas: will do. [06:19] G0SUB: it requires access to the server and so on - there's not a lot of work involved, and it ends up being more policy than anything else [06:19] no, sec, i'm just trying to find out [06:19] ok [06:19] jdub: sabdfl told that you might be in need of some help wrt this [06:19] ok [06:19] (fiancee is pulling on my ears to get me to the dinner table - I may disappear suddenly) [06:20] monday is clearer for me, elmo, are you still on EST? [06:20] Ok well I'll get ahold of Seveas later. Is there anything else I'm needed for? [06:20] sabdfl: yes, but I can shift without problems [06:20] Kuyaedz, no, we're done here [06:21] sabdfl, ok, monday april 3 it is then [06:21] thank you again. [06:21] 9am? === Kuyaedz [n=christer@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [06:21] G0SUB: we're redirecting the list admin stuff to RT, which means there'll be 2 more people helping with lists stuff [06:21] if 9am is ok with Kamion and elmo [06:21] elmo: that'd be great then [06:22] 9am's doable as long as Kirsten is well again by then to take Benedict to school [06:22] which should be the case [06:22] ok, elmo? [06:22] yes === tdilago [n=dilago@201009064104.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [06:22] cool Apr 3, 09:00 UTC it is [06:23] nice === Seveas off - fiancee is getting mad [06:23] i gotta sleep too [06:23] good meeting [06:23] jsgotangco: good night :) [06:23] ok, thanks all, guess that's adjourned [06:24] Good night to those of you half a world away... (Noon'ish here.) [06:24] night kjcole [06:25] night all [06:25] g'night all === svaksha [n=svaksha@unaffiliated/svaksha] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [06:25] kjcole: central time? [06:25] perhaps the channel topic may reflect this change. [06:25] good night to those of you in odd time zones :P [06:25] Amaranth: hehe lol [06:25] Amaranth: Eastern. Actually 12:25 PM. [06:26] bye === Mizar [n=Mizar@ubuntu/member/mizar] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] === Surak [n=ubuntu@201009064104.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === tdilago [n=dilago@201009064104.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [06:28] kjcole, will call and bother you... sksk === flint [n=flint@montpeliervt-cuda1-24-50-146-184.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [06:29] Ta-ta, all. === tenmon [n=Tenmon@66.60.1.43] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tenmon [n=Tenmon@66.60.1.43] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === seb128__ [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-68-32.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === atoponce [n=aaron@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Bye"] === seanh [i=seanh@ukato.freeshell.ORG] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:03] @load webcal [07:04] @topic === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Community Council | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 22 Mar 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 22 Mar 14:00 UTC: Xubuntu | 23 Mar 18:00 UTC: Bug Squad | 23 Mar 20:00 UTC: Dapper Development Status | 28 Mar 20:00 UTC: Technical Board === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 22 Mar 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 22 Mar 14:00 UTC: Xubuntu | 23 Mar 18:00 UTC: Bug Squad | 23 Mar 20:00 UTC: Dapper Development Status | 28 Mar 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 29 Mar 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === psusi [i=hidden-u@iriserv.iradimed.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Fracture [n=Fracture@dsl-202-173-191-84.qld.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549F8ADC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === phlaegel_ [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === stgraber [i=steph@xeon.stargate-server.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549F8ADC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jgerace [n=justin@pool-71-245-80-203.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === roscoe [n=roscoe@ip68-101-105-11.oc.oc.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === olive [n=olive@o.o6.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:02] Did the CC meeting end up happening 5 hours ago? 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