[12:04] <_frank> signalvsnoise: I'm not sure... I would guess it compiles a 64bit kernel
[12:04] <_frank> signalvsnoise: drivers (modules) obviously have to be compiled for it too
[12:04] <Blissex> signalvsnoise: no.
 how does one compile a 64bit kernel?  I don't see that particular option anywhere in menuconfig
[12:06] <Blissex> signalvsnoise: that's the _CPU_ type, not the target architecture type.
[12:07] <Blissex> signalvsnoise: the architecture type is selected with 'ARCH=...' and that defaults to the current architecture as reported for example by 'uname -a'
[12:07] <Blissex> signalvsnoise: look at the 'Makefile' around line 120 etc.
[12:16] <ernesto> buenas noches
[12:16] <ernesto> alguien me puede ayudar con un temilla de la nvidia????
[12:17] <noteventime> !es
[12:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:21] <signalvsnoise> blissex:  Ahh!  Thanks!
[12:30] <michele_> hi, does anybody know if there are some news about the gam_server CPU hog issue
[12:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i verify if swap is working?
[12:37] <Random_Transit> hey...i'm trying to burn a bootable DVD with X-CD-Roast...and i wanted to know, what exactly is a boot image, and where would I find it?
[12:45] <michele_> does anybody know why nautilus needs to run while using kde?
[12:45] <Tm_T> ?
[12:46] <Tm_T> what?
[12:46] <Tm_T> sounds like evil gnome invasion to me
[12:47] <michele_> well also gnome-vfs-daemon running
[12:47] <michele_> no clue why
[12:47] <michele_> I ran gnome once and I had installed ubuntu first
[12:48] <michele_> I killed/disabled gam_server and nautilus started hogging the cpu
[12:48] <robotgeek> michele_: looks like your system needs cleaning
[12:49] <robotgeek> michele_: http://robotgeek.org/wiki/ShellScripts/CleanPackage run that :)
[12:49] <ryanakca> would an intel 815 graphics card support opengl /  3d games?
[12:49] <robotgeek> ryanakca: looks like i'm recommending it more and more :)
[12:50] <ryanakca> robotgeek: recommending what... that awesome script of yours? :P
[12:50] <ryanakca> btw... sorry for pinging you 50 or so times last night...
[12:51] <robotgeek> ryanakca: no problem
[12:51] <michele_> robotgeek: any chance to just keep the processes from getting started instead of nuking the packages?
[12:51] <Red_Herring> my ping is a second!
[12:51] <robotgeek> michele_: no clue, i havent wrong gnome in ages now
[12:52] <michele_> oh well, bookmarked your page in any case :o)
[12:52] <michele_> any ideas about the gam_server pain?
[12:52] <yamathan> Okay, what's the skinny on fglrx?
[12:52] <yamathan> Why doesn't it work worth a damn in my installation>?
[12:53] <jtshaw> yamathan: What kind of video card?
[12:53] <yamathan> jtshaw, an ATI All-In-Wonder 2006 PCIe.
[12:53] <yamathan> I've tried to find GATOS in any way, shape, or form, but I've had little luck.
[12:53] <yamathan> The proprietary drivers don't do much other than screw around with X server to the point I need to reconfigure it.
[12:54] <yamathan> ... And then run VESA.  ~_~
[12:55] <yamathan> What drivers WILL with with an AIW card?
[12:55] <jtshaw> yamathan: hmm... I was under the impression any regular Radeon should work
[12:55] <yamathan> jtshaw, so was I.
[12:55] <jtshaw> yamathan: but then again, my mobile radeon doesn't either...
[12:55] <yamathan> It's a real joy, isn't it?  : P
[12:56] <yamathan> Does GATOS work whatsoever?
[12:57] <yamathan> I've been running around like a chicken with its head cut off in an attempt to find the deb files, but so far I've come up with seldom little.
[12:57] <ryanakca> would an intel 815 graphics card support opengl /  3d games?
[12:58] <crimsun> ryanakca: not well
[12:58] <crimsun> in fact, you can pretty much forget trying to play anything requiring the power of quake III
[01:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i verify if swap is working?
[01:01] <yamathan> Is your installation moving quickly?
[01:01] <honesty> what part is desktop software is responsible for the actual drawing of windows the xwindows or the window manager? anyone know
[01:02] <crimsun> honesty: the X Window System has an API, xlib, that applications access for that. xlib also controls the windows, but applications called window managers take care of controlling them (not actually drawing them)
[01:03] <michele_> mzinz: /usr/share/icons
[01:03] <michele_> wrong chat
[01:05] <honesty> xlib is responsible for the rendering of the window.
 Xwindows is not responsible for widgets. How do widgets get drawn?
[01:10] <crimsun> honesty: clarify?
[01:10] <crimsun> honesty: X Windows, from a larger perspective, certainly _is_ responsible, since xlib is part of it
[01:11] <crimsun> (I'm playing a bit loose n' fast with the distinction between X Window System and X Windows)
[01:12] <ryanakca> crimsun: what would be the cheapest video card that would support opengl?
[01:13] <crimsun> ryanakca: for the purpose of ..?
[01:13] <crimsun> if you want to play games, you probably want an Nvidia or ATI card
[01:13] <crimsun> as for which model of either, I have nfi
[01:13] <Red_Herring> any nvidia one
[01:13] <crimsun> I haven't played computer games in years
[01:13] <Red_Herring> they are very good with opengl
[01:14] <ryanakca> and would they support xgl?
[01:16] <Dr_House> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[01:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Kubuntu uses KDE, Ubuntu uses GNOME
[01:16] <Dr_House> ah, ok thanks ... damn, downloaded breezy ubuntu by mistake
[01:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> You can get KDE on Ubuntu
[01:17] <Dr_House> is kde better for newbs?
[01:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> I dunno. I think it all boils down to personal preference.
[01:17] <Red_Herring> KDE is more powerful
[01:18] <Red_Herring> and it has more eyecandy
[01:18] <Red_Herring> but gnome is clean and simple
[01:18] <Dr_House> which is easier to configure?
[01:18] <Red_Herring> gnome
[01:18] <Dr_House> so you think gnome is better to start off with?
[01:18] <Red_Herring> KDE is great if you know how to, but that takes quite a bit of work
[01:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> I found KDE easier
[01:19] <Red_Herring> either works
[01:19] <Red_Herring> i find KDE much easyer
[01:19] <honesty> Crimsun: Toolkits are built using xlib that make it easier for others to specific tasks?
[01:19] <crimsun> honesty: absolutely, hence gtk+, qt, fox, ultimate++, and so on
[01:20] <_jeff> hey guys
[01:20] <_jeff> im having a bit of trouble with konqueror
[01:20] <_jeff> it always opens .debs from the internet in kate
[01:20] <Red_Herring> like what?
[01:20] <_jeff> and other files
[01:20] <Red_Herring> right click it
[01:20] <_jeff> and save as?
[01:20] <Red_Herring> kubuntu package installer
[01:20] <_jeff> no no
[01:20] <Red_Herring> yeah
[01:20] <Red_Herring> just save as
[01:21] <_jeff> im trying to download stuff off kde-look
[01:21] <Red_Herring> heh, good luch
[01:21] <Red_Herring> *luck
[01:21] <_jeff> and when i click the dl link, it points to a .php file
[01:21] <Red_Herring> half of the stuff i try never works
[01:21] <_jeff> then it redirects to download
[01:21] <Red_Herring> _jeff: use firefox
[01:21] <_jeff> so i cant directly save as
[01:21] <Red_Herring> its really the only way i know
[01:21] <_jeff> lol yeah i know ff rocks
[01:22] <_jeff> its just konqueror fits so seamlessly with everything
[01:22] <Red_Herring> indeed
[01:22] <_jeff> i was hoping there was a way to fix that
[01:22] <Red_Herring> but its necesarry for things like this
[01:22] <_jeff> yeah
[01:22] <_jeff> ok, thanks gangsters
[01:22] <_jeff> anybody know when dapper is supposed to come out officially?
[01:22] <bimberi> !dapper
[01:22] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software. Release date is June 1 - http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq. /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[01:23] <_jeff> awesome
[01:23] <_jeff> thanks
[01:23] <_jeff> !thanks
[01:23] <ubotu> _jeff: gern geschehen
[01:23] <bimberi> _jeff: yw :)
[01:23] <_jeff> lol
[01:23] <Dr_House> when i mount an NTFS drive .. does it copy its contents to the linux partition and take up space?
[01:23] <_jeff> so who likes kubuntu?
[01:24] <My8os> Dr_House: no
[01:25] <Dr_House> My8os what about if i play a video file off an ntfs drive?
[01:25] <My8os> no again
[01:25] <Dr_House> awesome .. thanks
[01:25] <My8os> you just read them
[01:25] <Red_Herring> i dunno, ubuntu has had some permissions problems with ntfs drives
[01:26] <Red_Herring> great quit message
[01:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[01:26] <Dr_House> do kde and gnome use the same command sets? the same programs?
[01:26] <Red_Herring> no
[01:26] <_jeff> lol
[01:27] <Dr_House> lol ok .. thx
[01:27] <_jeff> i have the restricted formats stuff, but my .wmvs and quicktime vids arent play
[01:28] <honesty> crimsun: where do window managers come into play. From what I read they sit between the client application and the xserver and manage where the window is placed
[01:28] <My8os> wich player do you use? i can play both formats using mplayer
[01:28] <Red_Herring> VLC rocks
[01:28] <_jeff> hmm, ill try that my8os
[01:28] <_jeff> yeah i tried vlc for that shizz
[01:29] <_jeff> ill try mplayer
[01:29] <crimsun> honesty: yes, and that's all they do. everything else is managed via widget set or raw xlib (which is nasty)
[01:29] <_jeff> does anybody here listen to online radio?
[01:30] <Red_Herring> vlc is the...
[01:30] <Red_Herring> its amazing
[01:30] <stefan> and if it doesn't work with mplayer or vlc, you can always try totem mediaplayer
[01:30] <Red_Herring> i got a torrent file that was 10% done, and it could play a good 1/4 of it
[01:30] <Red_Herring> try xine
[01:30] <Red_Herring> gstreamer sucks
[01:32] <My8os> for online radio i use amarok
[01:32] <_jeff> yeah
[01:32] <honesty> crimson: do you know what EyeOs is?
[01:32] <_jeff> but how do you find good stations and stuff, amarok doesnt have a stream browser does it?
[01:32] <Red_Herring> i believe it does
[01:33] <_jeff> that was one of my favourite features in winamp 5
[01:33] <_jeff> which i really miss
[01:33] <Red_Herring> amaroK really is a killer app for KDE
[01:33] <My8os> no...i just copy the urls that direct from the radio-sites
[01:33] <_jeff> o
[01:33] <_jeff> yeah amarok is great
[01:33] <_jeff> it got a lot faster since the last one
[01:33] <_jeff> same with kde all together
[01:34] <_jeff> 3.5 is much faster for me than 3.4
[01:34] <Red_Herring> soon to go UP with plasma and kde4
[01:34] <Red_Herring> how is plasma working?
[01:36] <_magus> i fail @ drinking
[01:36] <Red_Herring> i fail @ life
[01:36] <Red_Herring> :-D
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> i fail @ Kubuntu
[01:36] <_xavier> hola alguien habla espaol aqui?
[01:36] <Red_Herring> indeed
[01:37] <Red_Herring> !es
[01:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:37] <honesty> Projects such as eyeos try to intergrate the desktop and the internet which is why I need some clarification. Thnx crimson for your answers
[01:37] <_magus> Red_Herring: please. you have dozens of opportunities
[01:37] <Red_Herring> what? i was kidding
[01:37] <_magus> you shouldn't give up so easily
[01:37] <Red_Herring> as in im asking out a girl next week

[01:38] <_magus> yeh
[01:38] <_magus> that all good
[01:38] <_magus> 'but i still fail at drinking
[01:39] <_magus> 'cause i'm drunk right now, so newbies beware!
[01:39] <Red_Herring> wow, a drunk guy on a linux chatroom
[01:39] <Red_Herring> what part of that makes sense?
[01:40] <_magus> is that rare?
[01:40] <patrix> lol
[01:40] <Red_Herring> i dunno
[01:40] <tristanmike> hahaha
[01:40] <patrix> no
[01:40] <Red_Herring> a self admitting one
[01:40] <patrix> what's rare is someone talking about asking out girls
[01:40] <Red_Herring> usually its "Im not drunk officer!"
[01:40] <tristanmike> you mean "I'm not ocifer drunk"
[01:41] <_jeff> red_herring: you can get plasma now?
[01:41] <_magus> i don't care if i'm drunk and i definitely don't expect to girls to see this chan
[01:41] <Red_Herring> are there any girls in here?
[01:41] <_jeff> lol
[01:41] <_magus> nope
[01:41] <_magus> not one
[01:41] <_jeff> hahaha
[01:41] <tristanmike> what's a girl ?
[01:41] <Red_Herring> _jeff: not that i know of
[01:41] <_magus> kernel upgrade
[01:41] <crimsun> there are definitely ladies who appear in here
[01:41] <Red_Herring> tristanmike: boobs
[01:42] <_jeff> red_herrign: so what did you mean by move UP?
[01:42] <tristanmike> ahh, I know those
[01:42] <Red_Herring> its gonna be SLOW!
[01:42] <_magus> can i paste url here?
[01:42] <Red_Herring> tristanmike: thought you would
[01:42] <Red_Herring> sure
[01:42] <_magus> k, just a minute
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> Hi , On Kubuntu dapper do I need SCIM in my system tray ? Is there anyway to stop it showing there assuming its not important
[01:43] <Red_Herring> its not important
[01:43] <Red_Herring> that i know of
[01:44] <_jeff> is there a how to on sharing files with a windows machine anywhere?
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> Red_Herring : Any idea of how to stop it ? I only use one input language
[01:45] <Red_Herring> h3sp4wn: if its not a problem, leave it alone
[01:45] <Red_Herring> its dapper
[01:46] <_magus> sorry, it took some time: http://www.lortto.net/~raumanni/what.swf
[01:47] <_magus> can anyone access that=
[01:47] <Nirvana> _JEFF: I know how to share files on a Windows machine on your network.
[01:47] <_magus> ?
[01:48] <_jeff> nirvana: how do you do it?
[01:48] <_jeff> nirvana: im on my linux laptop
[01:49] <_jeff> nirvana: with wireless network
[01:49] <_jeff> nirvana: and i want to share files with my xp machine downstairs
[01:49] <dash-> tribal dance
[01:50] <Dr_House> is there a macromedia flash program for linux/
[01:50] <Dr_House> ?
[01:50] <Red_Herring> not a maker
[01:50] <_magus> geh, those who are able to check that flash out are busy, bur anyway can someone confirm that that link works?
[01:51] <Red_Herring> it works, but i dont have flash
[01:51] <My8os> _magus: it works...pretty good :P
[01:51] <Red_Herring> not on dapper anyway
[01:51] <_magus> My8os: It works ;D
[01:52] <_magus> and not in the technical caase
[01:54] <_magus> about technical, how woukd you think breezy kde would respond to broken ddr?
[01:55] <Red_Herring> it would, like any other os, die
[01:55] <Red_Herring> assuming ddr refers to RAM
[01:55] <_magus> i have one broken ddr
[01:55] <Red_Herring> yea... it gave me a kernel panic
[01:55] <nalioth> _magus: you may corrupt your system
[01:55] <_magus> yeh
[01:55] <_magus> but my symptoms are:
[01:56] <Red_Herring> death?
[01:57] <Dasnipa`> sudden, and instant
[01:57] <_magus> after a ehile some program will start to hog all the memory, and after that every program will act slowly until i kill the program that started to hog the memory
[01:57] <_magus> but it leads to a state where all the multimedia programs stop working
[01:58] <_magus> i know for 100% that i have one proken ram chip
[01:58] <Dasnipa`> what if they are single-media
[01:58] <_magus> snd you mean by that?
[01:59] <Dasnipa`> multimedia implies that there would be a single form of media as well does it not?
[01:59] <_magus> yeh, something about those lines.
[02:00] <Dasnipa`> hehe
[02:00] <Dasnipa`> so i was just jerkin your chain
[02:00] <_magus> please continue
[02:00] <Dasnipa`> no, now i must continue to see if i have everything setup on my new sourceforge site
[02:01] <_magus> you _had_ more that linquistics about that, did you?
[02:01] <_magus>  s/that/than
[02:02] <_magus> the former if anybody was interested
[02:02] <Dasnipa`> hehe
[02:02] <Dasnipa`> well i wish i knew
[02:03] <_magus> well, i _do_ know that i have one ram gone bad, so whyi don't rip it off?
[02:05] <_magus> ggeh, expectged to see some arguments over here
[02:05] <Red_Herring> ...
[02:05] <_magus> never mind the typos
[02:06] <Dasnipa`> _magus, have you been drinking?
[02:06] <Dasnipa`> lol
[02:06] <_magus> but if we want to see some action here we need an aegument
[02:06] <_magus> Dasnipa`:  YEA
[02:06] <Dace> _magus: maailma on pieni...
[02:06] <_magus> it doesn't stop me tho
[02:06] <Dasnipa`> it might be time for you to lay off of it for the night
[02:06] <_magus> on
[02:06] <_magus> ei sentn
[02:07] <_magus> gnome vs. KDE. i'll be defending gnome :>
[02:08] <Dasnipa`> gnome uses too much ram
[02:08] <Red_Herring> kde owns
[02:08] <tristanmike> !start an editor war
[02:08] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tristanmike
[02:08] <Red_Herring> gnome sucks
[02:08] <_magus> bleh, gnome works, at least.
[02:08] <Red_Herring> gnome is too boring
[02:08] <Red_Herring> its not powerful
[02:08] <patrix> lol
[02:08] <callie> fluxbox!
[02:08] <busterdouglas> gnome is for ugly people
[02:08] <tristanmike> lol
[02:08] <_magus> gnome is simple, and it it's well maintained
[02:08] <Red_Herring> are you ughly?
[02:09] <Red_Herring> I THOUGHT SO!
[02:09] <busterdouglas> they feel attracted to gnome
[02:09] <Red_Herring> kde is very easy to look at
[02:09] <Dasnipa`> lol thats like the ugly chicks that say "i have good personality" that is gnome
[02:09] <_magus> ok... this whole thing was a sore spot :>>
[02:09] <busterdouglas> yeah exactly
[02:09] <Red_Herring> LOL
[02:09] <busterdouglas> but gnome has nice personality
[02:09] <busterdouglas> :P
[02:10] <_magus> busterdouglas: that is true
[02:10] <tristanmike> and KDE is like a tramp, all pretty on the outside, but once you get in there, it's worse than you imagined :P
[02:10] <_magus> but gnome doesn't look nice
[02:10] <busterdouglas> yeah but still it was a good fuck
[02:10] <callie> tristanmike, are tramps pretty on the outside?
[02:11] <Red_Herring> i wonder why we make all these analogys
[02:11] <_magus> callie: true
[02:11] <tristanmike> callie, they try....
[02:11] <callie> they do?
[02:11] <_magus> but they're all lie
[02:11] <callie> wow, your tramps sound cool!
[02:11] <tristanmike> callie, try being the operative word there
[02:11] <_magus> please wait
[02:11] <callie> our tramps just shoot heroin and throw up on you
[02:11] <tristanmike> lol
[02:11] <busterdouglas> no those are hookers
[02:12] <Red_Herring> callie: whats "our tramps" mean?
[02:12] <tristanmike> where's that? Detroit ?
[02:12] <busterdouglas> they are like windows
[02:12] <callie> ewww
[02:12] <callie> London
[02:12] <tristanmike> even better
[02:12] <_magus> http://www.lortto.net/~raumanni/what.swf
[02:12] <Red_Herring> im from a suberb of chicago
[02:12] <Red_Herring> when i say boring, i mean NOTHING AT ALL HAPPENS
[02:12] <callie> word of advice, if you having a bachelor party dont let busterdouglas  book the hookers
[02:13] <busterdouglas> hehe
[02:13] <busterdouglas> im from amsterdamm so they are legal hookers
[02:13] <_magus> geh? anyone clicked that?
[02:13] <busterdouglas> that is a positive thing
[02:13] <busterdouglas> ^^
[02:13] <tristanmike> i agree
[02:14] <nalioth> callie: have you not heard the word "offtopic" once today?
[02:14] <_magus> did i fail or what?
[02:15] <callie> huh?
[02:15] <Red_Herring> awe man, nanolith is coming in with his IRON FIST
[02:15] <Red_Herring> and he killed this whole thing
[02:15] <busterdouglas> from the back
[02:15] <Tm_T> moin
[02:15] <busterdouglas> oh
[02:15] <busterdouglas> :D
[02:16] <_magus> http://www.lortto.net/~raumanni/what.swf <- with that link. did i fail?
[02:16] <Red_Herring> i cant open it
[02:17] <Red_Herring> firefox and konqueror mess it up
[02:17] <callie> nalioth, what i do now?
[02:17] <_magus> welll if you don't have dlas player..
[02:17] <_magus> flash****
[02:17] <Red_Herring> /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:18] <nalioth> callie: hookers don't belong in #kubuntu
[02:18] <_magus> Red_Herring: is it that much trouble to install flash player?
[02:18] <callie> hey, i didnt start that conversation and i didnt bring up hookers either
[02:18] <Red_Herring> yeah, because we dont pay for ANYTHING!
[02:18] <Red_Herring> its only free sex in here
[02:18] <_magus> que?
[02:18] <jtshaw> hahaha
[02:18] <busterdouglas> hhe why not i thought ubuntu was for everybody
[02:18] <Red_Herring> busterdouglas: everyone but hookers
[02:18] <busterdouglas> oh okay :(
[02:19] <_magus> i kinda missed my answer.
[02:19] <_magus> was there one?
[02:20] <_magus>  ahh never mind
[02:20] <_magus> Red_Herring: what fail does the link give you?
[02:21] <Red_Herring> no, dapper cant open it
[02:21] <Red_Herring> i dont have flash
[02:21] <_magus> oh that one
[02:21] <_magus> but you can access the file tho?
[02:21] <Red_Herring> eyah
[02:21] <jtshaw> speaking of which... is there a plan to have flash, or should I just install the plugin from Macromedia and install it?
[02:21] <_magus> right no problem then
[02:21] <Red_Herring> jtshaw: its in the repos
[02:23] <jtshaw> Red: Is there anything other then the libflash which doesn't work for anything new?
[02:24] <Red_Herring> dunno
[02:25] <_magus> bleh. i _did_ press spacebar when the amiga emulator needed it tho
[02:27] <_magus> But i'm going to sleep. See you guys when i'm sober again.
[02:30] <Red_Herring> OH MAN, the colbert report TOTALLY stole their opening from futurama
[02:33] <KaoticEvil> anyone run seti?
[02:33] <busterdouglas> nope
[02:34] <busterdouglas> that is that extraterstrial thingy right
[02:34] <KaoticEvil> yeah
[02:34] <busterdouglas> i once saw a ufo but nobody believes me
[02:34] <busterdouglas> :|
[02:34] <KaoticEvil> i do
[02:34] <KaoticEvil> ive seen several
[02:34] <busterdouglas> yeah?
[02:35] <KaoticEvil> but thats a discussion for #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:35] <busterdouglas> oh
[02:35] <busterdouglas> :(
[02:35] <busterdouglas> is that a channel #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:35] <busterdouglas> hehe
[02:36] <KaoticEvil> anything with # in front of it is a channel ;)
[02:36] <busterdouglas> yeah but maybe you were being sarcastic :P
[02:36] <KaoticEvil> i wasnt
[02:37] <busterdouglas> i found something on the site about seti
[02:37] <busterdouglas> but i cant copy paste the url on this command line irc client
[02:37] <busterdouglas> :S
[02:37] <KaoticEvil> its ok
[02:38] <KaoticEvil> im just wondering if i can change the server that the kubuntu package connects to.
[02:38] <KaoticEvil> the default one wont connect
[02:38] <busterdouglas> from adept
[02:39] <KaoticEvil> synaptic, actually... but its basically the same thing
[02:39] <busterdouglas> it is version 3 and from seti is at version 5
[02:40] <KaoticEvil> well, i guess that may do it
[02:40] <busterdouglas> on the ubuntuforums
[02:40] <busterdouglas> there is a thread about it
[02:41] <busterdouglas> that says you have to install the debian package from upstream(boinc) and run as a regular user
[02:45] <KaoticEvil> ok
[02:47] <AngryElf> hey all, where would I find a "visual effects" menu so i can turn off some of them in KDE??
[02:48] <fit4lfe> anyone use krfb
[02:48] <fit4lfe> anyone !!
[03:16] <AngryElf> how do i stop KDE from saving my session everytime i log out and restarting every window i previously had open?
[03:16] <nalioth> AngryElf: when you log out, untick the box "save session"
[03:18] <AngryElf> nalioth, i dont have that box :(
[03:18] <AngryElf> and i dont have a shutdown button on the K-menu either
[03:19] <nalioth> AngryElf: then i'm out of answers (but someone will have one) have you tried #ubuntu or #kde
[03:19] <AngryElf> #kde didn't help, and they get mad in #ubuntu
[03:19] <nalioth> that is unfortunate
[03:20] <nalioth> why don't you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:20] <AngryElf> i'll try
[03:20] <AngryElf> thanx
[03:21] <AngryElf> nalioth, is there a GUI way to start apps......kind of like gnome's session manager?
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> nalioth: Open kcontrol, and go to KDE Components > Session manager
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Err
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> AngryElf
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wrong guy. :P
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Under the "On Login" area, check the "Restore manually saved session"
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then open only the apps you want on startup, go to the K Menu, and press "Save session"
[03:23] <AngryElf> i have no "save session" on my ke menu
[03:23] <AngryElf> my K menu is defunct evidentally
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> You have to tell it to restore a previously saved session before it appears.
[03:24] <AngryElf> where do i tell it that?
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Open kcontrol (Or system settings) and go to KDE Components > Session manager
[03:24] <fit4lfe> anyone use krfb here ?
[03:25] <nalioth> AngryElf: alt-f2 ?
[03:27] <AngryElf> CheeseBurgerMan, awesome :)
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yup. :)
[03:38] <swedish> does kubuntu not have plug n play for usb drives?
[03:38] <soundmaster80> hello all, does anyone know of ubuntu packages of xorg 7
[03:39] <nalioth> soundmaster80: in dapper drake.  join #ubuntu+1
[03:39] <_frank> swedish: usb drives are supposed to automount
[03:40] <swedish> well here ill plug it in
[03:40] <swedish> oh
[03:40] <swedish> well NOW it works
[03:40] <Frank_386> has anyone heard of "Automatix"?
[03:40] <swedish> heh
[03:40] <_frank> !automatix
[03:40] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:41] <_frank> Frank_386: Easyubuntu is a safer solution that has much of the same capability
[03:41] <Frank_386> so did you load your plug-ins individually?
[03:41] <swedish> is there a good codec pack for linux?
[03:41] <_frank> Frank_386: what do you mean?
[03:42] <_frank> !tell swedish about restricted
[03:42] <Frank_386> did your system come with all the things you needed? or did you have to load additional software yourself?
[03:43] <Red_Herring> !tell red_herring about restricted
[03:43] <swedish> hehe
[03:43] <Red_Herring> fine, ubotu is b*tching at me
[03:44] <_frank> Frank_386: you can add extra software with adept for most things or other ways as described in the wiki.
[03:44] <soundmaster80> are there any packages for xorg 7
[03:44] <Dr_House> why is it that every time i install linux i have to unplug all my other HDs .. otherwise it doesn't boot
[03:45] <nalioth> soundmaster80: you'll need to join #ubuntu+1  for xorg 7 talk
[03:45] <soundmaster80> ok
[03:46] <Frank_386> adept?
[03:47] <_frank> !tell Frank_386 about adept
[03:47] <_frank> !tell Frank_386 about sources
[03:47] <_frank> !tell Frank_386 about restricted
[03:47] <_frank> Frank_386: read through those links. They explain how to install what you most likely need
[03:48] <Frank_386> thanks
[03:49] <nalioth> _frank try /msg ubotu tell NICK about FACTOID
[03:49] <_frank> nalioth: I didn't know that one. thanks
[03:53] <douglas> I had a liitle program that had letters and umluet stuff on it. I can't find it to install and don't know what it is called. ANy ideas?
[03:53] <douglas> It was on the bar by klipper
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Um, what did it do?
[03:57] <douglas> It had a grid of letters with umlauts and stuff. You clicked on one it was then copied so you could paste it into a letter or something that was written in German or whatever
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> The special characters applet probably
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> GNOME?
[03:57] <douglas> KDE
[03:57] <douglas> maybe it came for gnome?
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> I know  there's one in GNOME
[03:58] <nalioth> gnome has "character map" panel applet
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, not sure about KDE.
[03:58] <douglas> I never used gnome
[03:58] <Tm_T> hmm?
[03:58] <Tm_T> "character selector" kicker applet!
[03:59] <douglas> sounds right. did you find it? Where?
[03:59] <Tm_T> and stop talking about G... it makes me feel sick
[03:59] <douglas> LOL
[03:59] <patrix> lol
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:59] <Tm_T> douglas: where all kicker applets are
[03:59] <Tm_T> ...
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> Gnome doesn't suck that bad - I just prefer KDE.
[04:00] <douglas> I almost dropped ubuntu because of gnome but found kubuntu :-)
[04:00] <Tm_T> I understand why people like gnome, but..
[04:00] <patrix> oh yeah
[04:00] <patrix> there's nothing wrong with preferring either
[04:00] <arrinmurr> i don't
[04:01] <douglas> So where are all the kicker applets? I found lots but not that one on my system.
[04:01] <Tm_T> to me its golden cage, really frustrating and restricting
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now that I don't know
[04:01] <patrix> I've been mainly a KDE user since KDE 0.1 or so, in 1997
[04:01] <AngryElf> what's a good CD/DVD-burner for KDE?
[04:01] <patrix> k3b
[04:01] <Tm_T> douglas: rightclick kicker ...
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> patrix: Probably just time for a change.
[04:01] <douglas> I did but It is not there!
[04:02] <patrix> CheeseBurgerMan, yeah I've always changed here and there
[04:02] <Tm_T> douglas: hmm
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> patrix: Yeah, that's why I've got GNOME and XFCE installed too - sometimes I want a change.
[04:02] <swedish> i am dual-booting kubuntu and windows xp from the same drive, is there a way to access the windows xp partition?
[04:02] <patrix> yep
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> yup
[04:02] <Red_Herring> yes
[04:02] <Red_Herring> boot into windows
[04:03] <patrix> CheeseBurgerMan, it's good to see different ways of doing things.. plus the same apps will work anyway ;
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> "kdesu konqueror /media/hda1"
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> patrix: Yup, although KDE is my overall favorite
[04:03] <patrix> hell yeah
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> I find GNOME and XCFE to be a bit ugly and confusing.
[04:04] <patrix> well they've both come a long way since gnome 1.x which was ultra ugly, and xfce 1.x which was a CDE clone
[04:04] <douglas> kcharselect in adept! I hope
[04:04] <swedish> its a Sata drive cheeseburger
[04:04] <swedish> so do i do sda1?
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, whatever your windos partition is called.
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> windows*
[04:05] <swedish> ok well i did kdesu koqueror /media/    then hit tab for auto fill and i dont see anything that looks like a hard drive
[04:05] <swedish> jsut cdroms and floppys
[04:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> You might wanna spell konqueror right - it'll help
[04:05] <douglas> That was it!! thanks for the name of the app it helped me finally find it!!
[04:05] <swedish> i did
[04:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, you didn't in here.
[04:05] <swedish> yeah :)
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> Maybe /dev/sda1?
[04:07] <swedish> nope, hmmm
[04:07] <swedish> wants to know what i want to open it with, if i select konq, it just opens a new window and asks again
[04:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> hmm
[04:08] <swedish> like its not mounted ?
[04:08] <swedish> how can i look at mounted drives?
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> I think they're in /media/ - but I'd love some confirmation on that.
[04:09] <Red_Herring> /media/
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> yay! Confirmation
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[04:09] <swedish> i only have cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 and floppy floppy0 in there
[04:11] <kunjan> anyone get xgl working with kubuntu on nvidia?
[04:11] <swedish> anyone else know how to view a windows partition on the same drive as kubuntu?
[04:12] <kunjan> xgl loads up fine on mine but it curropts the screen badly
[04:12] <swedish> its ok, you tried cheese
[04:12] <kunjan> swedish: you need to "mount" it
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> There we go - someone more experienced. :D
[04:12] <swedish> how do i "mount" it
[04:12] <kunjan> is kubuntu on your first physical drive?
[04:12] <kunjan> hda?
[04:12] <frank23> !tell swedish about windowsdrives
[04:12] <swedish> yes
[04:12] <kunjan> ok open up a terminal
[04:13] <swedish> yup
[04:13] <kunjan> do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[04:13] <kunjan> now you will see ur windows partitions
[04:13] <swedish> right
[04:13] <swedish> im not stupid
[04:13] <kunjan> lol ok
[04:13] <swedish> fdisk
[04:13] <swedish> thats for creating/deleting partitions
[04:13] <kunjan> ok now do "sudo mkdir /media/windowsdrv"
[04:14] <kunjan> then run "mount /dev/hdaX /media/windowsdrv"
[04:14] <kunjan> where X is the appropriate number from fdisk -l
[04:14] <frank23> kunjan: swedish there is a script to do all this. I sent it to swedish already if you want to use it
[04:15] <kunjan> aaah i didnt know there was a script
[04:15] <kunjan> does automatix do this?
[04:15] <swedish> yeah im looking at that frank
[04:15] <frank23> !windowsdrives
[04:15] <ubotu> hmm... windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:15] <kunjan> i think (k)ubuntu automagically did this didnt it?
[04:15] <kunjan> i dont know.. i dont have any windows partitions anymore ;)
[04:15] <frank23> !automatix
[04:15] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:16] <swedish> hehe
[04:16] <swedish> windows is just for gaming...
[04:16] <frank23> kunjan: I'm not sure if kubuntu is supposed to automount other partitions automatically...
[04:16] <kunjan> i cant use automatix anyways.... m running amd64
[04:16] <kunjan> frank: aah ok
[04:17] <kunjan> i think it does
[04:17] <kunjan> dont remmeber
[04:17] <Dr_House> hey .. i'm following the instructions here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) to set up my video card .. but "sudo apt-get install linux-686" is telling me "E: Couldn't find package linux-686" .. anyone know what's up?
[04:18] <frank23> Dr_House: are you running amd64 or ppc?
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dr_House: Be sure to backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf before you try the driver install - just in case
[04:18] <kunjan> yeah there is no package for amd64 or ppc imo
[04:19] <kunjan> cant get damn xgl to work
[04:19] <kunjan> aaarh
[04:19] <Dr_House> frank23 it's amd64
[04:19] <Dr_House> CheeseBurgerMan hehe too late, i already changed the device driver to "vesa"
[04:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[04:20] <kunjan> i dont know how ati does their drivers
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> I tried following a guide (also running AMD64), and ruined mine. :P
[04:20] <frank23> Dr_House: well if you're running amd64 version of ubuntu, there will not be a 686 kernel in the repository
[04:20] <Dr_House> to backup ... is it sudo cp  /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup ?
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, that should work.
[04:21] <Dr_House> frank23 so i just skip that step?
[04:21] <Dr_House> CheeseBurgerMan gotcha
[04:21] <frank23> Dr_House: if you read the part just before, you would see 686 is an example
[04:22] <swedish> you know how there is the "system" button next to the kde button, can i add shortcuts to it?
[04:22] <Dr_House> frank23 ah, yeah, i skimmed over that :-/   .. so it would be sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[04:22] <Dr_House> ah, nevermind.. scratch that
[04:27] <Kyral> hmm, can I suggest that KIO-Apt be installed by default? its very nice...
[04:28] <frank23> Kyral: it is installed by default. or at least that package is
[04:28] <Kyral> oh lol..I swore I had to apt-get it
[04:28] <Kyral> maybe it was ipodslave...
[04:28] <jtshaw> what does it do?
[04:29] <frank23> Kyral: if you try to remove it, synaptic tells you kubuntu-desktop depends on it
[04:29] <Kyral> it enables Konqueror to search the repos from that Search Bar thing :D
[04:29] <swedish> is there a way to add more shortcuts to the system menu next to the kde (start) menu?
[04:29] <jtshaw> ahh, cool
[04:30] <jtshaw> wow, I wish I had know about that earlier, that is great
[04:30] <Kr4t05> How would I add a command to start up on boot.
[04:30] <Kr4t05> Like, init.d
[04:30] <Kr4t05> ?
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> put a .sh file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:31] <Kr4t05> K
[04:31] <Kyral> he said boot
[04:31] <Kyral> not KDE load
[04:31] <kunjan> kr4t05: look at /etc/profile..
[04:31] <Kr4t05> kunjan, thanks.
[04:31] <kunjan> profile.d or something
[04:31] <kunjan> np
[04:31] <Kr4t05> Do I just add .sh files there?
[04:32] <kunjan> you can have it start up a script of ur choice
[04:32] <kunjan> or just add ur commands there
[04:32] <kunjan> what are u specifically adding?
[04:32] <frank23> Kr4t05: one way is to add stuff to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  not sure if this is the "correct" way though
[04:32] <jtshaw> add it to init.d and link it to the rc.d/rc<num>.d dir cooresponding to the runlevel
[04:32] <ifup> Does anyone know of a way I can "wall" a user thats using kde? for instance I ssh to the box and wall and they get the message.
[04:32] <Kr4t05> Er...
[04:33] <kunjan> all these ways would work too just fine
[04:33] <Kr4t05> kunjan: I'm adding my sc_trans
[04:33] <Dr_House> has anyone here with an ATI card properly configured breezy kubuntu to use "fglrx" drivers?
[04:33] <jtshaw> profile.d will cause it to run anytime a user logs in..
[04:34] <kunjan> aah ur right jtshaw
[04:34] <Kr4t05> Ok, so, I just add it before the :exit line?
[04:34] <kunjan> if you want it to start when the system boots up add it to init.d and link it to rc.d/rc2.d
[04:34] <Kr4t05> or after?
[04:35] <Kr4t05> so
[04:35] <kunjan> sc_trans wont run until someone logs in ....
[04:35] <Kr4t05> oh
[04:35] <Kr4t05> ok
[04:35] <kunjan> if u add it to profile
[04:35] <kunjan> my bad
[04:35] <kunjan> jtshaw's would work great
[04:35] <frank23> Kr4t05: before exit I think. what is it that you need to do anyways?
[04:35] <kunjan> add it to runlevel 2
[04:36] <kunjan> kr4t05: sc_trans is for streaming audio right?
[04:36] <Kr4t05> kunjan, yeah
[04:36] <Kr4t05> kunjan, DJ client for ShoutCast
[04:36] <kunjan> you prolly want it to add it to runlevel 2 then
[04:36] <Kr4t05> And how would i do that?
[04:37] <kunjan> frank he is trying to start the audio server when system boots up
[04:37] <kunjan> add a script to /etc/init.d that starts up sc_trans
[04:37] <Kr4t05> ok
[04:37] <kunjan> and link that script from /etc/rc.d/rc2.d
[04:37] <Kr4t05> So
[04:37] <kunjan> runlevel 2 is what ubuntu boots into
[04:38] <Kr4t05> I would nano /etc/init.d/shout.sh
[04:38] <Kr4t05> add the commands
[04:38] <Kr4t05> right?
[04:38] <kunjan> kr4t05: right... skim thro this too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[04:39] <fit4lfe> hey anyone use krfb in here
[04:39] <fit4lfe> kde remote desktop
[04:40] <kunjan> anyways i m out... got to do calculus 2... sucks
[04:40] <Kr4t05> Ok
[04:40] <Kr4t05> Now, how do I link it?
[04:40] <kunjan> night! or day!
[04:40] <Kr4t05> ?
[04:40] <kunjan> with ln -s
[04:40] <kunjan> or just ln
[04:40] <kunjan> not sure
[04:40] <kunjan> lol
[04:40] <AngryElf> how do i create a new panel?
[04:40] <kunjan> ln will create a link
[04:41] <kunjan> ln -s will create a symlink
[04:41] <Kr4t05> sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/shout.sh /etc/rc.d/rc2.d?
[04:41] <kunjan> read up a bit on ln
[04:41] <kunjan> yup that would work
[04:42] <kunjan> AngryElf: right click on an existing panel and click add new panel
[04:43] <Kr4t05> Erm...
[04:43] <Kr4t05> ln: creating hard link `/etc/rc.d/rc2.d' to `/etc/init.d/shout.sh': No such file or directory
[04:43] <kunjan> switch the argument order
[04:43] <kunjan> lol i suck at command line
[04:43] <kunjan> wait
[04:43] <kunjan> no
[04:43] <kunjan> wait
[04:43] <kunjan> lol
[04:43] <kunjan> i really suck at cli
[04:43] <Kr4t05> ...
[04:43] <nalioth> what are we creating hard links?
[04:43] <nalioth> Kr4t05: don't do what you are doing
[04:43] <Kr4t05> Um...
[04:43] <Kr4t05> ok
[04:44] <nalioth> Kr4t05: you are doing a ln -s blah blah ?
[04:44] <Kr4t05> no "-s"
[04:44] <kunjan> here nalioth can help u
[04:44] <nalioth> Kr4t05: use -s
[04:44] <kunjan> i m out!
[04:44] <Kr4t05> ok
[04:44] <Kr4t05> That looks like it worked.
[04:45] <swedish> is there a more graphical way to view free file space in my linux paritition, (df really sucks)
[04:45] <Kr4t05> ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/init.d/shout.sh' to `/etc/rc.d/rc2.d': File exist
[04:45] <nalioth> swedish: there is a little utility called 'discus'
[04:45] <nalioth> Kr4t05: then what is the problem?
[04:45] <Kr4t05> nalioth, nothing, I guess.
[04:45] <Kr4t05> I'll have to reboot to find out.
[04:46] <swedish> and can i edit the system menu that is next to the k menu to include my own shortcuts?
[04:47] <Dr_House> anyone know why my storage media folder isn't showing two ntfs disks?
[04:47] <noirequus> away on business
[04:48] <jshaw> urg.. I lost my nick again
[04:55] <Kr4t05> Gee, it would work if I could get my NFS share to mount properly on boot up.
[04:56] <nalioth> Kr4t05: is it in your fstab?
[04:56] <Kr4t05> yeah
[04:56] <Kr4t05> 192.168.1.54:/media/share /media/share nfs rw,hard,intr  0          0
[04:57] <Kr4t05> kratos@BRubuntu:~/shout$ sudo mount -a
[04:57] <Kr4t05> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:59] <Kr4t05> Well
[04:59] <Kr4t05> I'll just mount if manually for now.
[05:00] <Kr4t05> Night all.
[05:00] <Dr_House> i just install ntfsprogs through adept .. anyone know where it installed to or how i coudl run it?
[05:09] <nalioth> Kr4t05: no final newline means you didnt hit the carriage return on the last entry
[05:12] <vladimir> My Creative AWE64 soudcard don't recognized by Kubunt. How Can I fix it?
[05:12] <vladimir> My Creative AWE64 soudcard don't recognized by Kubuntu. How Can I fix it?
[05:13] <nalioth> !repeat
[05:13] <ubotu> hmm... repeat is Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[05:13] <crimsun> vladimir: sudo modprobe snd-sbawe
[05:13] <vladimir> crimsun: I will try this command... thanks!!
[05:17] <nalioth> hi m5m
[05:18] <m5m> hiya nalioth
[05:20] <m5m> anyone use rsync much?  how about rsync as a cron job?
[05:23] <jtshaw> rsync as a cron job works just fine
[05:23] <jtshaw> that is how I keep my mirror up to date
[05:24] <vladimir> crimsun: Can I put snd-sbwave into /etc/modules file????
[05:24] <crimsun> vladimir: did it work?
[05:24] <crimsun> i.e., can you hear sound?
[05:24] <vladimir> crimsun: Yes!!
[05:24] <crimsun> then yes, put it into /etc/modules
[05:24] <vladimir> crimsun: Ok!!! Done!!
[05:25] <vladimir> crimsun: Thanks, one more time!!
[05:52] <Arcanimus> anyways... good night all
[05:57] <_brett> hey room
[05:57] <_brett> does anyone know of a site for sega roms
[05:58] <_brett> seems the ones i check out are just for win
[06:00] <phenex> what's the name of the KDE process tabel? can i run it from a terminal?
[06:00] <nalioth> phenex: in konsole, type 'top'
[06:01] <phenex> the konsole window can't show them all... too small...
[06:03] <_bbeck> phenex: Do you mean ksysguard?
[06:04] <phenex> yeah... thats it :) thanks :)
[06:45] <bleaked> so dapper is the codename for the unstable branch?
[06:46] <bleaked> or is dapper testing?
[06:46] <robotgeek> !dapper
[06:46] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software. Release date is June 1 - http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq. /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[06:48] <nalioth> bleaked: we do not have debian type labels. we have stable and stable+1 (the developing next version)
[06:48] <bleaked> ah, ok
[06:49] <bleaked> (sorry..i'm a five-month deb user moving to kubuntu tonight.)
[06:50] <jmcnutt> hi, is there a way to enable all of kde's settings in kubuntu??
[06:51] <jmcnutt> what should i download to get all of kde's options in kubuntu???
[06:51] <Dasnipa`> !repeat
[06:51] <ubotu> repeat is, like, Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[06:52] <patrix> jmcnutt, you mean, the kde control center? run kcontrol   ;)
[06:53] <jmcnutt> Dasnipa, sorry but I thought i might have written the question in a bad way...
[06:53] <jmcnutt> patrix, thanks
[06:54] <patrix> np
[06:54] <robotgeek> jmcnutt: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[07:28] <jehnx> I've got a sort of important question (IMO), folks..
[07:28] <jehnx> I just tried to use adept to take off all of the printing abilities on my kubuntu.
[07:28] <jehnx> I did this, applied it, and now almost all of my options in "System" and "Utilities" and whatnot are totally gone.
[07:28] <jehnx> And konsole won't open anymore.
[07:28] <robotgeek> jehnx: ouch.
[07:29] <robotgeek> jehnx: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[07:29] <jehnx> Any idea how to get it all back, and/or why it happened??
[07:29] <jehnx> I guess the printing had dependencies, those were taken off, so it just broke the chain?
[07:29] <robotgeek> jehnx: you may have to install it by doing "ctrl + alt + f1" and then ctl + alt + f7 back
[07:30] <robotgeek> jehnx: your guess is as good as mine :)
[07:30] <jehnx> robotgeek: I can't open konsole or xterm, so how could I do the sudo apt-get install ... ?  Any way you know of offhand?
[07:30] <iGotNoTime> I can run more than one app with Wine at the same time correct?
[07:30] <jehnx> I could try to just do it through synaptic or adept, I guess.
[07:30] <robotgeek> jehnx: can you read my previous - 1 statement
[07:31] <jehnx> Yep, go tya mate.
[07:31] <jehnx> got ya*
[07:31] <jehnx> Thanks for your help.  :)
[07:34] <jehnx> robotgeek: I was able to re-install it using adept.  Thanks for your help.
[07:42] <jehnx> Anyone willing to help me get my usb sound adapter to work?
[08:13] <mornfall> _Sime_: tags.h?
[08:15] <_Sime_> mornfall: I swear it said something about not being able to find a tags.h when I tried compiling adept.
[08:15] <_Sime_> mornfall: I think I'm missing the apt *.h stuff... better fix that first.
[08:15] <mornfall> _Sime_: do you have all builddeps?
[08:15] <mornfall> check debian/control
[08:17] <_Sime_> that's working much better now
[08:18] <doogaler> can somone pleae tell me how to install firefox 1.5 on kubuntu 5.10
[08:18] <nalioth_zZz> !firefox1.5
[08:18] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:18] <doogaler> thanx
[08:19] <doogaler> do i need  sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 to install it?
[08:19] <doogaler> firefox that is
[08:20] <nalioth_zZz> read the wiki page
[08:20] <doogaler> do i?
[08:20] <doogaler> k
[08:21] <_Sime_> mornfall: /usr/include/apt-front/cache/component/packagetags.h:29:42: error: tagcoll/TDBReadonlyDiskIndex.h: No such file or directory
[08:21] <_Sime_> mornfall: a bit wierd.
[08:22] <mornfall> _Sime_: you have libtagcoll-dev right?
[08:22] <mornfall> (alh had it when you ran configure)
[08:22] <mornfall> generated configure even
[08:22] <_Sime_> I'll rerun configure.
[08:23] <mornfall> regen it
[08:23] <doogaler> can somone tell me how to fix this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/615706 when i tried to install libstdc++5
[08:23] <doogaler> using sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[08:24] <doogaler> ???
[08:24] <Hobbsee> doogaler: install gcc-3.3-base
[08:24] <Hobbsee> and libglade2-0
[08:25] <doogaler> how?
[08:25] <Hobbsee> doogaler: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.3-base libglade2-0
[08:25] <mornfall> tried with -f as it suggests?
[08:26] <Hobbsee> or that, yeah
[08:27] <doogaler> ok then, how do i use the -f solution?
[08:27] <doogaler> do i entersudo apt-get install libstdc++5 -f ?
[08:27] <doogaler> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 -f i mean
[08:29] <Hobbsee> doogaler: -f after install, IIRC
[08:29] <doogaler> ok
[08:30] <doogaler> that dosnt work either
[08:31] <doogaler> heres the result http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/615714
[08:31] <Hobbsee> doogaler: try sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 gcc-3.3-base
[08:32] <doogaler> still dosnt work, i think i need zenity or somthing
[08:33] <doogaler> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/615716 results
[08:33] <Hobbsee> doogaler: and sudo apt-get install libgnomecanvas2-0?
[08:35] <doogaler> it says that its not available is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:35] <doogaler> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:35] <doogaler> is only available from another source
[08:35] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[08:35] <Hobbsee> !info libgnomecanvas2-0
[08:35] <ubotu> libgnomecanvas2-0: (A powerful object-oriented display - runtime files), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.12.0-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 97 kB, Installed size: 264 kB
[08:35] <Hobbsee> doogaler: breezy or dapper?
[08:35] <doogaler> breezy
[08:35] <doogaler> 5.10
[08:37] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[08:37] <Hobbsee> doogaler: if you really want, you can get that from http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Flibg%2Flibgnomecanvas%2Flibgnomecanvas2-0_2.12.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=b23a73a4e72a65260856fa5d4a9fac73&arch=i386&type=main then install it by sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[08:38] <farous> anyone know of a good program to capture what is happening on the screen and capture sound from my mike. I am trying to make a wmv presentation and need something to capture the screen in video mode
[08:40] <doogaler> nothin will work so i think i will just do a fresh re-install and hopefully that will fix da problem
[09:18] <lubo> hell, does anyone is able to burn cd with K3B?
[09:18] <lubo> I always have some problem with it...
[09:19] <lubo> OPC failed: Probably the writer does not like the medium:-))
[09:20] <lubo> does any one had the same problem ?
[09:20] <lubo> it is strange because simulation succeed :-)
[09:31] <sampan> does anyone know if krfcommd (process) runs by default?
[10:23] <ubuntu> hi
[10:49] <Phlank> Argh! This is becoming quite annoying, I open kcontrol and try using administrator mode and it acts like it's about to go into it and it just sits there doing nothing
[10:51] <_mindspin> Phlank: did you try to open it on commandline with kdesu kcontrol ?
[10:52] <Phlank> That wont work, it opens but then nothing is actually in the window
[10:52] <RS6> Hallo alle
[10:52] <Phlank> some weird bug with dapper
[10:52] <Phlank> gonna try kdesu
[10:52] <RS6> wird hier auch deutsch gesprochen?
[10:52] <_mindspin> !de
[10:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:52] <RS6> thx
[11:09] <ixiion> re
[11:17] <Creperum> why there aren't 2.6.12 kernel sources in repository>
[11:18] <mth`MAW> Helo
[11:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:20] <Rayman> is there a way to save a KDE session without loggin out?
[11:24] <Chousuke> echo foo
[11:24] <Tm_T> Chousuke: ok
[11:24] <Tm_T> !ping
[11:24] <ubotu> pong
[11:24] <Chousuke> Tm_T: /foreach gone awry :P
[11:25] <Ilta> Rayman: at least the dcop commands. for example "dcop ksmserver default saveCurrentSession" works fine.
[11:26] <ubuntu> hi
[11:27] <Creperum> wow, OS is talking to me
[11:27] <untouch> :)
[11:27] <untouch> i need a little help
[11:28] <Creperum> ok, $10 per hour :)
[11:28] <Snake__> Lol
[11:28] <untouch> too much
[11:28] <untouch> :P
[11:28] <untouch> ok, lets go
[11:28] <Creperum> then you don't really need it :)
[11:29] <Snake__> hey Hobbsee
[11:29] <Hobbsee> hi Snake__
[11:29] <Hobbsee> Rayman: yes, setting is in system settings
[11:30] <Snake__> untouch: go on, tell us your problem, listening is free :)
[11:31] <untouch> i instaled kubuntu on my pc, i make apt-get update , i install automatix and i install nvidia drivers, and some players, and when i reboot i got that error: GRUB error 18
[11:31] <untouch> why?
[11:32] <Snake__> Oh god...I hope its not automatix
[11:32] <Snake__> Been known to kill system :(
[11:32] <untouch> but it`s the second time when i got that error
[11:32] <untouch> now i run ubuntu live cd
[11:34] <untouch> what can i do ?
[11:34] <Snake__> If I knew grub I could help...but I dont so the most I can do is suggest google :(
[11:34] <sniff> !easyubuntu
[11:34] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[11:35] <sniff> !easykubuntu
[11:35] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sniff
[11:35] <Rayman> I was just wondering the same
[11:36] <Rayman> does easyubuntu work with kubuntu dapper ;)
[11:36] <Rayman> probably not
[11:36] <Snake__> I dont think so
[11:36] <Snake__> join #easyubuntu and ask maybe?
[11:39] <simian> is easy unbuntu the same as automatix?
[11:40] <simian> or at least the same kind of thing?
[11:40] <ixiion> firefox dont open the folder where i downloaded a file whenn i use the dialog in the download window how can i change this ?
[11:40] <Hobbsee> simian: same kind of thing, yes, but a lot safer
[11:40] <Snake__> simian: yes, but you need ubuntu-desktop installed and its a lot safer
[11:40] <Snake__> Hobbsee: ....
[11:40] <Snake__> to fast
[11:40] <Snake__> :)
[11:40] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:40] <Snake__> Hobbsee: no its okay, I g2g in a min
[11:41] <Snake__> got 6 more paragraphs I gotta write in 20 mins
[11:41] <Snake__> >.<
[11:41] <mart> well, hate to break it to you guys, but....
[11:41] <mart> it looks like Vista has been delayed again
[11:41] <Snake__> Oh drat
[11:41] <simian> lol
[11:41] <Snake__>  /kick mart
[11:41] <Snake__> er
[11:41] <Snake__> :)
[11:41] <mart> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4831374.stm
[11:42] <mart> Snake__: :)
[11:42] <Snake__> mart: not to be an a-hole....but I dont think anyone in here really cares lol
[11:42] <mart> Snake__: no... I just thought it was vaguely amusing.
[11:42] <Snake__> They are trailing behind some hobbiest hackers, thats pretty sad
[11:43] <Hobbsee> mart: oh again?  darn.  i was looking forward to it coming out.  and this is kinda offtoipic
[11:43] <mart> yeah, I didn't intend to start a debate about it :)
[11:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:44] <Hobbsee> mart: join us in #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll explain my statement lol
[11:48] <RS6> Hi
[11:48] <RS6> wird hier deutsch gesprochen?
[11:49] <Hobbsee> !de
[11:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:49] <Hobbsee> Guten Tag, RS6
[11:49] <_mindspin> RS6 fragst du das immer?
[11:49] <Hobbsee> man...that's getting beyond the level of german that i recognise...
[11:49] <_mindspin> that#s the fourth time I've seen him coming in and asking it
[11:50] <mart> Hobbsee: "Do you always ask that?"
[11:50] <_mindspin> sorry yes
[11:50] <Hobbsee> ah right
[11:51] <_mindspin> probably nobody is in #kubuntu-de
[11:52] <_mindspin> the mailing list for german kubuntu almost very silent
[11:52] <_mindspin> maybe it needs alittke push
[11:52] <_mindspin> little
[12:02] <ixiion> Open containing folder option in the download panel of firefox dont work
[12:03] <ixiion> can i change this ?
[12:03] <simian> where does kmail store my email - i've looked at the hidden files in my home directory
[12:05] <Hobbsee> simian: ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail?
[12:06] <ixiion> is this a bug ?
[12:10] <ixiion> hey , talk to me
[12:13] <ubijtsa2> *yawn*
[12:14] <Riddell> simian:  ~/Main, ~/mail, /var/mail/me
[12:15] <ubijtsa2> possibly ~/Maildir as well
[12:19] <Rayman> ixiion: probably is.
[12:21] <ixiion> i have read about that firefox is a gtk app an naturally uses nautiluse for file manger things so i guess i have say firefox that i dont have nautilus and would like to use konqueror
[12:21] <ixiion> nautilus
[12:24] <chemaja> ixiion: check the package's dependencies
[12:24] <chemaja> ixiion: i don't think it depends on anthing nautilus, of couse i haven't checked.
[12:24] <ixiion> from firefox ?
[12:24] <chemaja> yes.
[12:25] <untouch> kubuntu doesn`t have update notifier like ubuntu ?!
[12:25] <ixiion> no i mean usally when i klick on "open containung folder "in the download panel firefox would like to open this folder with nautilus
[12:26] <ixiion> but i dont have nautilus installed
[12:27] <ixiion> i have tested it i installed nautilus and then i can use the option
[12:27] <ixiion> but i dont want this in that way
[12:29] <chemaja> ixiion: what's the actual message firefox gives you?
[12:29] <ixiion> the error message ?
[12:30] <ixiion> or do you mean where the option is that i want to use ?
[12:30] <chemaja> ixiion: whatever msg
[12:30] <matko> when i use kubuntu are the packages compatible with ubuntu?
[12:30] <chemaja> ixiion: no, the msg
[12:30] <chemaja> matko: the packages *are* ubuntu
[12:30] <matko> ok. thanx
[12:30] <chemaja> matko: yeah, ubuntu should be called gubuntu or something to disambiguate
[12:30] <chemaja> but eh
[12:30] <ixiion> there is no error message i just do nothing when i dont have nautilus installed and klick the option
[12:30] <matko> that write.
[12:31] <ubijtsa2> untouch: there is adept and adept_updater
[12:31] <chemaja> ixiion: try running firefox from a shell, and seeing what happens in the shell window when you try the feature
[12:31] <ixiion> okay
[12:31] <chemaja> (or check ~/.xsession-errors
[12:31] <matko> how is possible that in repositorries i have 4000 packages available in kubuntu but in ubuntu tehre is much more available
[12:31] <chemaja> ie. `tail -f ~/.xsession-errors
[12:32] <chemaja> matko: what do you mean "in ubuntu"
[12:32] <untouch> i run the first time kubuntu, witch can i use to install xchat,wget, ssh and other packages?!
[12:32] <chemaja> untouch: `adept
[12:32] <matko> ubuntu woth gnome
[12:32] <chemaja> untouch: or aptitude, my personal fave
[12:32] <ubijtsa2> untouch: adept, aptitude or apt-get
[12:32] <ubijtsa2> maybe even dselect
[12:33] <ubijtsa2> not checked for that one for a while :)
[12:33] <chemaja> ubijtsa2: or maybe apt-get...
[12:34] <ubijtsa2> chemaja: aye.. but apt-get can be a bit hard for beginners
[12:34] <untouch> but i must to modif source.list ?!
[12:35] <ubijtsa2> untouch: you may want to uncomment the universe repositry, that is about it
[12:35] <ubijtsa2> repository even
[12:35] <untouch> ah..and if i don`t modif the source.list it`s ok ??
[12:35] <ixiion> chemaja: when i start firefox over a shell i get a lot of gdkpixbuf CRITICAL messages but i don get any message right when i klick the option
[12:35] <untouch> it`s something wrong?!
[12:36] <ubijtsa2> untouch: if you don't have universe enabled already, you may need to
[12:37] <untouch> it is in front # , i remove # and it`s working
[12:37] <ubijtsa2> aye
[12:38] <untouch> ok
[12:38] <untouch> tks guys
[12:38] <chemaja> aptitude. also install aptitude-doc package, then look in /usr/share/doc/aptitude for doco... spend some time with it, it's the best i've used.
[12:39] <untouch> but i have a problem
[12:40] <untouch> with GRUB
[12:40] <untouch> /boot/grub/grub.conf it`s empty
[12:40] <untouch> how can i install grub loader in MBR
[12:40] <patrix> the grub config file is menu.lst
[12:42] <ryanakca> is there a program for configuring apache?
[12:43] <_mindspin> vi
[12:43] <_mindspin> ;-)
[12:44] <untouch> how can i mount hda1 in /mnt ?!
[12:45] <_mindspin> windows partition?
[12:45] <untouch> reiserfs
[12:45] <untouch> /dev/hda1
[12:45] <Kabal> I've got a quick question:
[12:45] <Kabal> Is it possible to mount a FAT38 HDD?
[12:46] <ubijtsa2> FAT38 ??
[12:46] <ubijtsa2> what is that?
[12:47] <ubuntu> hello
[12:47] <patrix> I've heard of fat12 but not fat38 lol
[12:47] <_mindspin> mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda1  /mnt/nameofmountpoint ?
[12:47] <Kabal> lol it really does exist :)
[12:47] <Kabal> but the awnser that I get explains me enough :)
[12:47] <ubijtsa2> there is fat12, fat16 and fat32 afaik
[12:47] <Kabal> Thanx :)
[12:48] <ubijtsa2> try mounting it with mount -t vfat
[12:48] <Kabal> FAT12 FAT32 FAT38 NTFS 3.0 and NTFS 3.1
[12:48] <Kabal> ke I will try :) Thanx ubijtsa
[12:48] <ubijtsa2> Kabal: np
[12:48] <Tm_T> where's FAT16 ?
[12:51] <untouch> patrix, can you help me with GRUB ?!
[12:51] <Kabal> Tm_T: I don't use FAT16 :)
[12:52] <Tm_T> why not
[12:52] <patrix> untouch, sorry I was just passing through, I gotta go.. there's plenty of docs out there about configuring it, and other ppl in here :)
[12:53] <Kabal> Tm_T: hehe that's a good one.. don't know really :)
[12:53] <Tm_T> I use because I have to
[12:53] <_mindspin> untouch paste  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:53] <_mindspin> !paste
[12:53] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:54] <_mindspin> take the first  link please, not #flood
[12:54] <untouch> _mindspin, 2 sec
[12:56] <untouch> _mindspin,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10644
[01:00] <_mindspin> untouch: 2 min
[01:00] <untouch> ok
[01:00] <adrenaline_NZ> Hi all, I need some quick help if anyone is there? :)
[01:00] <untouch> no problem
[01:01] <adrenaline_NZ> I need to know how to manually restart /etc/modules?
[01:02] <_mindspin> untouch: looks good to me so far....
[01:02] <untouch> but it doesn`t work
[01:02] <untouch> :(
[01:03] <_mindspin> what does it mean "doesn't work"? any error messages?
[01:03] <theine> Does anybody know how to disable auto-completion in Konqueror's search bar (the one that shows up when browsing the web)?
[01:03] <Tm_T> adrenaline_NZ: sudo modprobe <module>
[01:03] <untouch> _mindspin, yes Error 18
[01:03] <Tm_T> adrenaline_NZ: I think, not sure
[01:03] <_mindspin> back in about 20 mins sorry...
[01:05] <theine> adrenaline_NZ: /etc/modules is just a list of kernel modules (read drivers). You can manually unload and load each listed module with "sudo rmmod <module>" and "sudo modprobe module" respectively
[01:05] <adrenaline_NZ> thanks
[01:06] <adrenaline_NZ> done the trick cheers
[01:13] <ixiion> how can i setup amarok for autostart
[01:14] <ixiion> wenn i boot the system
[01:20] <_admin> Hi
[01:20] <simian> Riddell: thanks for your reply to my email question, sorry i got called away
[01:20] <_admin> Does anyone here uses kubuntu with kiosk?
[01:20] <_admin> Kubuntu Breezy
[01:21] <Riddell> _admin: what's the issue?
[01:21] <_admin> My problem is that kiosk doesn't save the desktop setup in a profile
[01:22] <_admin> I've checked /etc/kde-profile/profile1/share/config/kdesktoprc
[01:22] <simian> Riddell: but i don't have any of those files ~/mail etc.
[01:22] <_admin> and t
[01:23] <_admin> and I even removed it to force kiosk to build another file the problem continues
[01:25] <_admin> Ok... I got it. There's some kind of bug with this version of kiosk. It puts a [$i]  on the beginning of the kdesktoprc file and it probably gives problems to kde config parser
[01:27] <_admin> Thank you anyway, Riddell
[01:27] <_admin> :)
[01:28] <_NinDZa_> Dosta je bilo , evo vam sad kanal i upamtite za u uduce Shaman scripts
[01:28] <Riddell> _admin: where did you find that?
[01:29] <Riddell> _admin: is there a fixed version of kiosk?
[01:29] <_NinDZa_> are there any operators here?
[01:29] <Riddell> _NinDZa_: yes, hi
[01:31] <theine_> Does anybody know how to disable auto-completion in Konqueror's search bar (the one that shows up when browsing the web)?
[01:31] <Riddell> theine_: can't be done in breezy, dapper you change the extension
[01:32] <theine_> Riddell: I'm actually using Dapper but I haven't found a way to do that
[01:32] <theine_> Riddell: ah, nevermind, i've got it now
[01:32] <Riddell> theine_: Settings->Configure Extensions
[01:32] <theine_> thanks
[01:36] <_NinDZa_> how to register nick?
[01:36] <_admin> Nop
[01:36] <Hobbsee> !register
[01:36] <ubotu> [register]  type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[01:36] <_NinDZa_> tnx
[01:36] <_admin> Riddell, I removed the [$i]  from the file and it worked
[01:37] <_admin> All the setup is done, so I won't retry another instalation of Kiosk
[01:37] <theine_> Is there a quick way to enable/disable/change a proxy server in konqueror?
[01:38] <mart> theine: not that I've been able to find :(
[01:39] <theine_> mart: I just found this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=34605
[01:39] <theine_> mart: maybe that's ok
[01:45] <psylox> lut all
[01:45] <psylox> kkun pourrai me dire dans kel dir se situe le kernel plz?
[01:46] <_NinDZa_> sta ti pricas koji kurac?
[01:49] <_NinDZa_> iz here always boring?
[01:49] <_NinDZa_> :P
[01:53] <Sm2> My friend has problems with network configuration tools
[01:53] <Sm2> Graphical ones
[01:54] <Sm2> When he switches to "super user mode" and gives his password, he can't still switch the settings of network adapters
[01:55] <_mindspin> try kdesu kcontrol from console (on breezy)
[01:59] <Skrot> crimsun: By the way, when is it likely for that patch you made to be in dapper?
[02:08] <Riddell> _NinDZa_: this is a support channel for Kubuntu, if you want general chat there's plenty of other places for it (your local LUG for example)
[02:08] <_NinDZa_> ok
[02:08] <_NinDZa_> i didnt know
[02:10] <_mindspin> does anybod have an idea why my /etc/resolv.conf is overwritten everytime I boot?
[02:13] <Creperum> _mindspin: cause u r looser, kill yourself
[02:14] <mornfall> ha-ha
[02:14] <_mindspin> !coc
[02:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:14] <mornfall> _mindspin: you can use chattr +i -- suboptimal... or fix whatever overwrites it... or apt-get resolvconf and set up in /etc/resolvconf
[02:15] <mornfall> Creperum: it'd be nice if you could learn to spell before calling other people losers (notice single o)
[02:15] <_mindspin> mornfall: I already do it everytime after boot, but it's kinda annoyingg
[02:15] <C-O-L-T> Hello over here
[02:16] <Creperum> _mindspin: man interfaces
[02:16] <mornfall> _mindspin: fix the program configuration overwriting your resolv.conf (usually dhclient or some sort of vpn software)
[02:16] <Creperum> mornfall: thx
[02:16] <_mindspin> no dhcpclient, no vpn installed
[02:17] <mornfall> no idea then
[02:17] <mornfall> _mindspin: (unless you have resolvconf installed)
[02:18] <Sm2> My friend has now another problem. He entered configuration for his WLAN card and now tries to enable it from kcontrol. But when he tries to enable it, the device is for few seconds enabled and then again disabled :S
[02:21] <_mindspin> mornfall: resolvconf is not installed
[02:36] <Rayman> !kolab
[02:36] <ubotu> Rayman: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:37] <Rayman> :f
[02:43] <Creperum> where can i get kernel sources for 2.6.12-10-686?
[02:44] <mart> Rayman: you're best to use the non-packaged kolab for the moment
[02:44] <untouchable> hi
[02:44] <mart> Rayman: I mean the 'native' openpkg thing
[02:44] <mart> Rayman: there is a project to build .debs, but I don't think they're stable yet
[02:46] <osh_> what's kolab?
[02:47] <untouchable> i need someone to check my source.list http://pastebin.com/616033
[02:48] <untouchable> pls
[02:55] <_mindspin> untouchable: so what? comment out the cd
[02:56] <_mindspin> what else do you wanna know?
[02:57] <untouchable> but if i type apt-get update
[02:57] <untouchable> in 2 sec it`s done
[02:57] <untouchable> wtf ?!
[02:57] <_mindspin> comment out the cd
[02:58] <untouchable> now i chat with irssi, and i need all that programs: xchat, ssh, wget etc..
[02:58] <untouchable> how can i update all these packages
[02:58] <untouchable> ?
[02:58] <_mindspin> comment out the cd
[02:58] <_mindspin> the first entry leads to updating from cd
[02:59] <_mindspin> you want the updates from repositories
[02:59] <_mindspin> so put a # in front of line 1
[03:00] <untouchable> ok
[03:00] <_mindspin> then you may have to enable the universe or multiverse repository depending on what software you want to use
[03:01] <_mindspin> there are even more repos for codecs and other "unfree" stuff"
[03:01] <_mindspin> ubotu tell untouchable about easysource
[03:02] <_mindspin> untouchable: the linkubotu gave you could be helpful
[03:03] <_mindspin> can you see it (priv. msg from ubotu)?
[03:04] <antrix> isn't there an debian meta package that pulls in basic stuff like gcc, autoconf, automake, etc?
[03:04] <_mindspin> build-essential
[03:04] <_mindspin> !build-essential
[03:04] <ubotu> [build-essential]  a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[03:05] <untouchable> _mindspin: yes i got it
[03:05] <antrix> thanks _mindspin
[03:05] <_mindspin> untouchable: build your sources.list as you need it and replace your old one with trhat
[03:30] <slow-motion> bbl maybe
[03:33] <untouchable> _mindspin: thanks man
[03:33] <_mindspin> yw
[03:34] <_mindspin> spread the idea of (k)ubuntu
[03:34] <untouchable> sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:34] <untouchable> Reading package lists... Done
[03:34] <untouchable> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:34] <untouchable> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[03:34] <untouchable> how can i install xchat ?!
[03:34] <_mindspin> wait
[03:35] <_mindspin> you are on kubuntu?
[03:35] <untouchable> yes
[03:35] <Creperum> untouchable: kill yourself
[03:35] <_mindspin> run adept
[03:35] <Creperum> no, just kill yourself
[03:35] <untouchable> Creperum: tks, after you
[03:36] <_mindspin> and search for xchat
[03:36] <_mindspin> maybe you have to enable the correct repository
[03:36] <Creperum> untouchable: a have xchat in repositories :)
[03:37] <_mindspin> !xchat
[03:37] <ubotu> somebody said xchat was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto http://www.xchat.org/
[03:37] <Skrot> Hi. Has anyone managed to compile kmplayer so that you get "preview" support in kfile?
[03:37] <untouchable> _mindspin: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic i was there and i go what you told me to do, and i replace the source
[03:37] <Creperum> !porno
[03:37] <ubotu> Creperum: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:38] <Creperum> !monet
[03:38] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Creperum
[03:38] <_mindspin> !xchat
[03:38] <ubotu> it has been said that xchat is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto http://www.xchat.org/
[03:38] <Creperum> !win32
[03:38] <ubotu> Creperum: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:38] <_mindspin> have a look there untouchable , I dunno xchat, I#m using Konversation
[03:38] <_mindspin> !codecs
[03:38] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:39] <Creperum> smart bot, heh
[03:39] <untouchable> _mindspin: i have a source.list build by automatix and i replace it.
[03:40] <_mindspin> mom
[03:40] <_mindspin> ubotu tell untouchable about  xchat
[03:41] <mth`MAW> Hi
[03:41] <_mindspin> uuh automatix
[03:41] <_mindspin> ubotu tell untouchable about  automatix
[03:42] <Creperum> !automatix
[03:42] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:42] <Henk> I've lost functionality of my volume-up scrollwheel. volume-down works perfectly its just the volume up that is no longer working. I've made a xev log of up and down scrolling it is here: http://pastebin.com/616108  can anyone help me ?
[03:42] <_mindspin> ubotu already told it untouchable
[03:42] <ubotu> _mindspin: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:49] <simian> does easyubuntu work with kde?
[03:50] <mth`MAW> every ubuntu works with kde --- just install kubuntu-desktop
[03:50] <_mindspin> i dunno ask in #easyubuntu
[04:10] <sam__> test
[04:11] <trappist> test failed.
[04:13] <simian> i'm following the ubuntu wiki on java support but some of the packeges that it mentions arn't available?
[04:13] <Creperum> !java
[04:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:13] <antrix> !flash
[04:13] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:13] <trappist> Creperum: he said he's following that.
[04:14] <Creperum> !javadebs
[04:14] <ninHer> hi all
[04:14] <ninHer> hi all
[04:15] <Creperum> java sux
[04:18] <jayr168> how can I make a link to konqueror SUPER USER mode?
[04:19] <noteventime> kdesu konqueror
[04:20] <benoit_> a friend tell me the possibility to get a term when I press F11 like half-life ... any idea ?
[04:20] <jayr168> i used 'kdesu kfmclient' is not working
[04:24] <jayr168> file:///boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686-smp is this file my very kernel?
[04:25] <jayr168> file:///boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686-smp is this file my very kernel?
[04:26] <jtshaw> that file is a kernel, yes
[04:27] <Creperum> 
[04:27] <Creperum>    cd /usr/src/linux; make include/linux/version.h
[04:28] <Creperum>  
[04:28] <Creperum>     
[04:28] <robotgeek> Creperum: please don't spam
[04:28] <RogerD> hello
[04:28] <robotgeek> benoit_: i think you are looking for yakuake
[04:28] <robotgeek> hi
[04:28] <RogerD> should I be disturbed by the fact that Kubuntu flight 5 doesn't boot corectly on my laptop? :)
[04:29] <robotgeek> yes RogerD
[04:30] <RogerD> several weird messages aside, after switching to graphics, screen goes blank (it has i855GE chipset)
[04:32] <RogerD> but it obviously works - when I push the power button, it starts shutting down and then ejects the CD
[04:33] <RogerD> is this considered a bugreport? :)
[04:33] <jtshaw> I'd fill one out on bugzilla if I were you
[04:33] <robotgeek> RogerD: file a bug, maybe? someone will tell you maybe later on how to get additional info
[04:33] <robotgeek> !bug
[04:33] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[04:33] <RogerD> ok, thanks
[04:37] <benoit_> robotgeek: thx :)
[04:38] <burgermann> Hi, I'm getting an error msg when trying to use the multisync plugin in Kontakt. It says it couldn't find libmultiynkpart.la in the paths
[04:39] <burgermann> Is there something I need to install?
[04:40] <exsanet> hi
[04:42] <RogerD> robotgeek: if X were running, should I be able to get to normal text console somehow? (ctrl+alt+f1 for example)
[04:42] <robotgeek> RogerD: yup
[04:43] <RogerD> but I can't :/
[04:44] <robotgeek> RogerD: this is on the expresso, right?
[04:44] <RogerD> what?
[04:44] <robotgeek> RogerD: flight5, i.e
[04:45] <RogerD> yes, flight 5 live CD
[04:45] <robotgeek> RogerD: it's supppsed to be able to be a live cd + install cd. i.e. install right from the live cd
[04:46] <RogerD> well, I can't install anything if it doesn't even boot correctly :)
[04:46] <robotgeek> RogerD: i know. file a bug and wait, i would say
[04:46] <RogerD> I'm writing it right now...
[04:47] <RogerD> sent - now to wait for some humiliation :)
[04:47] <robotgeek> heh
[04:52] <madacf> to co za karaa vonka taka nalezita
[04:53] <robotgeek> madacf: this is a english only channel :)
[04:53] <madacf> brum brum brummmmmmmmmm...
[04:54] <lclao> help list
[05:03] <tijn> hey all
[05:05] <tijn> what do i need to play xvid in dapper?
[05:06] <epinephrine> mplayer
[05:06] <epinephrine> plays pretty much anything when you install the win32 codecs
[05:07] <robotgeek> tijn: install w32codecs and kaffeine-xine
[05:08] <tijn> i got w32codecs
[05:08] <tijn> mmh kaffeine-xine?
[05:08] <tijn> moment
[05:08] <tijn> already got both
[05:10] <jayr168> how do I tell kubuntu to detect my Epson Usb printer?
[05:10] <tijn> !xvid
[05:10] <ubotu> tijn: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:11] <robotgeek> tijn, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:12] <tijn> thnx m8
[05:12] <tijn> will check :)
[05:20] <visik7> !automatix
[05:20] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:21] <tristanmike> !easyubuntu
[05:21] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[05:24] <heinkel_111> does easybuntu also work with kubuntu?
[05:24] <Tm_T> ofcourse
[05:24] <robotgeek> err, not unless you install a bunch of stuff
[05:24] <Tm_T> robotgeek: oh?
[05:25] <Tm_T> ah, some gtk-dependencies?
[05:25] <robotgeek> Tm_T: no qt frontend yet, i'm planning to learn qt soon
[05:25] <Tm_T> aah ok
[05:27] <tijn> !liblame
[05:27] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tijn
[05:28] <tibs01> evening
[05:29] <tijn> is there a packages.kubuntu.org?
[05:31] <WoodsDog> hey guys..I've been a long time debian user, and I just installed my first kubuntu box. It is the Breezy 5.1.0 install cd.  Now that it's up and going, what do I need to do to get it running the latest and greatest KDE/xorg?
[05:31] <tijn> ah multiverse
[05:31] <tijn> :)
[05:32] <robotgeek> WoodsDog: you don't mind breaking your box?
[05:32] <WoodsDog> not at all
[05:33] <robotgeek> WoodsDog: then move to dapper :)
[05:33] <WoodsDog> sweet..I'm all for it.  Do I just need to change my sources.list?
[05:34] <tijn> dapper is nice ;)
[05:34] <mornfall> hah
[05:34] <tijn> although, i mixed some styles and window decorations
[05:34] <tijn> and my pc sometimes freezes
[05:34] <tijn> for like 10 sec
[05:34] <tijn> changed it all back to default
[05:35] <tijn> and it works :S
[05:38] <WoodsDog> so would dapper = debian unstable? is that fair to say?
[05:40] <robotgeek> WoodsDog: well, debian unstable  freezes to ubuntu current +1  which is polished and released
[05:40] <WoodsDog> ok..thanks robotgeek
[05:41] <robotgeek> WoodsDog: so we in the ubuntu world have only Stable and Not-Stable
[05:41] <WoodsDog> so if i wanted latest and greatest, i would use dapper (ubuntu+1)
[05:43] <robotgeek> WoodsDog: yes, but it will break from time to time (maybe not so much now)
[05:45] <ixiion> re
[05:45] <ixiion> how can i see if xgl is running ?
[05:45] <robotgeek> !xgl
[05:45] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:46] <ixiion> okay
[05:46] <tijn> what is xgl?
[05:46] <ixiion> does it works with kubuntu ?
[05:46] <tijn> !fglrx
[05:46] <ixiion> x server with opengl acceleation
[05:46] <ubotu> well, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:46] <tijn> aaah read about that
[05:47] <tijn> sweet
[05:47] <jtshaw> Anyone know off the top of there head if ther is a hack to get fglrx to work with Mobility Radeon chipsets?
[05:55] <ixiion> how can i see which xserver is running right now ?
[05:58] <tijn> ups
[05:58] <tijn> fucked it up :)
[05:59] <tijn> upgraded to dapper
[05:59] <tijn> still used the seveas mirror] 
[05:59] <tijn> apt-get update got a new fgrlx driver
[05:59] <tijn> which cant get along with the new kernel
[05:59] <tijn> so i remove it
[05:59] <dereks> tijn: haha
[05:59] <tijn> it doenst want to go :)
[06:00] <dereks> whats the error
[06:00] <tijn> dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to
[06:00] <dereks> wait, the install fails?
[06:01] <tijn> no, the removal
[06:01] <tijn> of the seveas module
[06:01] <dereks> sudo apt-get --purge remove [package] 
[06:01] <dereks> that didn't work?
[06:01] <tijn> nope
[06:01] <dereks> did you try through dpkg?
[06:01] <tijn> that gave the error
[06:01] <tijn> erhm wait
[06:01] <tijn> :)
[06:02] <tijn> how?
[06:03] <dereks> man dpkg
[06:07] <bkjones> is there a usable flash plugin for firefox on dapper for x86_64?
[06:09] <nalioth> bkjones: not to our knowledge
[06:10] <bkjones> k
[06:10] <bkjones> sweet.
[06:11] <tijn> ok, fixed the broken install
[06:12] <tijn> but now: modprobe fglrx
[06:12] <tijn> works, (taints the kernel)
[06:12] <tijn> lsmod shows fglrx
[06:12] <tijn> so i start x
[06:13] <tijn> this doesnt work, when looking in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:13] <tijn> (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fglrx
[06:14] <spiderworm_work> hey all is there a ~/.gnome/ file i can edit or create or something, to change the font size in gnome apps such as firefox & synaptic?
[06:14] <spiderworm_work> maybe in ~/.gtk ?
[06:14] <nalioth> spiderworm_work: firefox is self contained. the ~/. files have no effect (except mayby ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla-firefox)
[06:16] <spiderworm_work> hmmm ok
[06:16] <spiderworm_work> what about synaptic & gimp & such?
[06:17] <_ita> good evening to you all
[06:17] <_ita> im off ciao
[06:28] <ninHer> hi all
[06:34] <Random_Transit> hey, is there anything similar to ndiswrapper for something other than wireless drivers?
[06:38] <Random_Transit> 'cos I have a scanner that isn't supported in linux, and i thought that if i emulated the driver somehow, i could get it working
[06:47] <_michael> blah
[06:47] <_michael> mucky mucky
[06:47] <_michael> hoo hoo
[06:50] <spiderworm_work> eh?  what's the point of this, katapult?
[06:52] <redguy> which spellchecker does KDE use?
[06:52] <redguy> aspell ispell ?
[06:54] <rob__> hi
[06:55] <rob__> can anyone suggest a VPN gui? I'm trying to use KVPNC but it crashes when I try to connect
[07:23] <iteniel> beszl it valaki Hungary-t?
[07:23] <TheFuzzball> hello all
[07:24] <TheFuzzball> who uses flight 5?
[07:24] <nalioth> TheFuzzball: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:24] <Skrot> TheFuzzball: I am
[07:24] <TheFuzzball> ?
[07:25] <TheFuzzball> ohh, sorry
[07:25] <TheFuzzball> I was just going to ask, when will Dapper be released?
[07:26] <TheFuzzball> officialy
[07:26] <theine_> does anybody know which qt4 package contains qptrlist.h?
[07:26] <nalioth> june 1st for dapper
[07:26] <TheFuzzball> cool
[07:27] <TheFuzzball> how do you install a bootsplash?
[07:35] <Sneb> enas
[07:35] <Fear_of_god> english
[07:35] <Sneb> k12n37vc
[07:36] <Sneb> sorry
[07:36] <Fear_of_god> I am running KDE Desktop & cannot get cedega too install, HOW do I get it too launch the exe using root? It is asking too use /usr/bin & I have no permissions
[07:40] <kasslern> how do i upgrade from debian "base cli system" to kubuntu using the cd and not using apt-get?
[07:41] <|atlaswd|> format & re-install
[07:43] <trappist> add the cd to your sources.list and sudoa apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:43] <spiderworm_work> how do i get the kde restart options, to choose which image to boot when restarting?
[07:45] <|atlaswd|> is anyone here?
[07:47] <tsdgeos> lol
[07:47] <tsdgeos> yes *we* are here
[07:47] <Marrs> most of us ;)
[07:48] <spiderworm_work> im not herre
[07:48] <spiderworm_work> i'm not here, either
[07:48] <tsdgeos> spiderworm_work: lier!
[07:48] <spiderworm_work> mmm THOSE guys arent here tho
[07:49] <spiderworm_work> tvv isnt here, BuFF isnt here....
[07:50] <Tm_T> me neither
[07:51] <spiderworm_work> Tm_T: where did you go?
[07:51] <kasslern> think you didnt understand the question
[07:51] <kasslern> i CANT use apt-get
[07:52] <ninHer> hi all
[07:52] <kasslern> i get cant remove e2fsprogs error
[07:52] <tsdgeos> kasslern: reason?
[07:53] <manas> hi, got a brand new iPod
[07:53] <manas> used gtkpod with it. the iPos is stuck ar the ok to disconnect screen
[07:54] <manas> cannot play a thing ?
[07:54] <manas> do I need to use itunes atleast once with it, before I can use gtkpod ?
[07:55] <|atlaswd|> I am trying too install cedega but cannot get permission.. HOW do I set up a terminal too install it?? install -d doesnt work neither does apt-get
[07:55] <|atlaswd|> I get a .sh file for a installer
[07:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell |atlaswd| about cedega
[07:56] <|atlaswd|> I dont want too know the site I got that
[07:56] <|atlaswd|> I need 2 install it
[07:57] <|atlaswd|> I am on there site
[07:57] <|atlaswd|> Simple question How do I run the F'in file in terminal!~
[08:00] <nalioth> |atlaswd|: sudo ./filename.sh
[08:00] <Dasnipa`> |atlaswd|, you may have to chmod +x <filename>
[08:02] <|atlaswd|> command not found using sudo
[08:02] <|atlaswd|> h MY God I am using a gui why the hell cant I make a path too file?
[08:03] <River> can anyone give me some inut on what the DVB icon is for? does Kubuntu try to load TV card drivers? if so mind didn't make it
[08:03] <|atlaswd|> command not found
[08:03] <Dasnipa`> |atlaswd|, you arent trying to run it from the console?
[08:03] <|atlaswd|> I am running from terminal
[08:04] <_casey> River you have to compile your kernel with support for a DVB card to use it
[08:04] <Dasnipa`> |atlaswd|, what exactly did you type?
[08:04] <|atlaswd|> console is same thing as terminal
[08:04] <|atlaswd|> sudo ./cedega_timedemo_installer.sh
[08:04] <|atlaswd|> exact what u said
[08:05] <|atlaswd|> tried without the . also
[08:05] <_casey> |atlaswd|: why not download the apt package of cedega
[08:05] <Dasnipa`> you dont have to run it as root anyway
[08:05] <|atlaswd|> Its not there
[08:05] <|atlaswd|> synaptic dont have it
[08:05] <Dasnipa`> ./cedega_timeinstallerblah
[08:05] <|atlaswd|> nor does KDE
[08:05] <_casey> |atlaswd|: download it from another site
[08:06] <Dasnipa`> thats just the demo of cedega anyway
[08:06] <|atlaswd|> COMMAND Not Found
[08:06] <_casey> |atlaswd|: download the full verison as a .deb and install it that way
[08:06] <|atlaswd|> das u dont listen
[08:06] <|atlaswd|> What The Fuck u think I made out of money
[08:06] <_casey> |atlaswd|: i never told you to buy
[08:06] <Dasnipa`> its only $15? its not like they are ripping you off
[08:06] <_casey> |atlaswd|: think torrent technology
[08:06] <|atlaswd|> the full version = cash
[08:07] <tristanmike> please try and watch the language
[08:07] <_casey> |atlaswd|: only if you download it from thier site does it cost any cash
[08:07] <|atlaswd|> its my program I type in w & t & f
[08:07] <_casey> |atlaswd|: www.thepiratebay.org
[08:07] <|atlaswd|> I am trying 2 get off limewire
[08:07] <heinkel_111> hmm anybody knows if Kate has a feature to compare different versions of a file?
[08:07] <|atlaswd|> JUST tell me how 2 run the damn thing geese
[08:07] <heinkel_111> and how to access it?
[08:07] <Dasnipa`> its only 15$ and its very well made software... why not support the developers?
[08:08] <_casey> |atlaswd|: you wont find it on limewire as quick as you will with bittorrent
[08:08] <|atlaswd|> I did acess it by double clicking on it on deskto[
[08:08] <|atlaswd|> bittorrent sucks slower
[08:08] <_casey> Dasnipa`: because why support pay them money for the front end when in the end you could just use wine
[08:08] <_casey> |atlaswd|: you're crazy
[08:08] <|atlaswd|> No I cant
[08:08] <|atlaswd|> Wine sucks
[08:08] <_casey> |atlaswd|: bittorrent much faster
[08:08] <|atlaswd|> doesnt run it
[08:09] <_casey> |atlaswd|: you realize that cedega is mainly a front-end for wine
[08:09] <|atlaswd|> Yeah & the graphics better the widgets are not F'ed up & it works
[08:09] <_casey> |atlaswd|: i can play all my games in eitehr one
[08:09] <River> am I mistaken or did kubentu install fail to ask me for the admin password and now I'm only a user and this system has no admin?
[08:09] <_casey> |atlaswd|: all my games play fine under wine
[08:10] <|atlaswd|> try running bloodscape on it
[08:10] <_casey> River: you can change the root password by doing sudo passwd root
[08:10] <|atlaswd|> Yeah ti doesnt work & I cannoty register the ocx files
[08:10] <_casey> |atlaswd|: then appreantly you have no clue what you are doing
[08:10] <Dasnipa`> _casey, you wine doesnt translate the directx to opengl like cedega can
[08:10] <Dasnipa`> thats where their programming expertese comes in... they are very knowledgable about dx
[08:11] <_casey> Dasnipa`:  the both play all the games that i play very well
[08:11] <_casey> Dasnipa`: only difference i experience is a pretty front end
[08:11] <Dasnipa`> you must play games that are 2 years old
[08:11] <|atlaswd|> I tried installing bloodscape using wine & I barly got through it
[08:11] <Dasnipa`> its free as in beer not free as in you dont gotta pay for it
[08:11] <|atlaswd|> whgat takes about 5 min 2 install took half an hour using wine
[08:11] <_casey> Dasnipa`: why install linux to game?
[08:11] <_casey> at any rate
[08:12] <Dasnipa`> i never said i do a lot of gaming
[08:12] <_casey> i know
[08:12] <|atlaswd|> simple I cant run more then 1 bloodscape without lagging own pc
[08:12] <_casey> but just making a point in general
[08:12] <|atlaswd|> it causes a loopback
[08:12] <|atlaswd|> there is no way too run it 2 times too power lvl or power lvl ppl
[08:12] <_casey> and Dasnipa` wine plays DOOM 3 as awell as cedega
[08:13] <Dasnipa`> not in my experience
[08:13] <|atlaswd|> can anyone tell me what command the kde desktop uses 2 launch the cedega installer so I can put sudo in frotn of it
[08:13] <_casey> must be my sli
[08:13] <|atlaswd|> I can use the file on desktop
[08:13] <Dasnipa`> in my experience anything with dx greter than 7 doesnt run with wine
[08:14] <|atlaswd|> just not in terminal
[08:14] <_casey> |atlaswd|: right click the file on the desktop and look at the command: feilds
[08:14] <|atlaswd|> OR even how do I log into root in kde so I can have access too sur/bin/
[08:14] <|atlaswd|> tehre are no command fields
[08:15] <_casey> |atlaswd|: logging in as root is  a bad idea...but you have to change the root password using sudo
[08:15] <_casey> then you can log in as root
[08:15] <_casey> so you do sudo passwd root
[08:16] <_casey> or you could just launch a root terminal
[08:16] <_casey> sudo -s xterm
[08:16] <_casey> i think
[08:16] <|atlaswd|> DO you NOT listen Terminal DOES NOT work
[08:16] <River> I just want to sudo root passwword when I run stuff that needs adminlevel Like i do with Debian but I can't seem to vi sudo so I can add myself?
[08:16] <_casey> |atlaswd|: do you not know ...that you have no clue about linux
[08:17] <|atlaswd|> you know I tried & it doesnt run so your the one who clueless
[08:17] <_casey> |atlaswd|: lol
[08:17] <|atlaswd|> I tried tyour commands FIALED
[08:17] <_casey> |atlaswd|: look if you are in the right path then it will fine the command
[08:17] <|atlaswd|> FAILED*
[08:17] <_casey> |atlaswd|: if you in the wrong path guess what your not going to find the command
[08:17] <_casey> its as simple as that
[08:17] <|atlaswd|> How do I log intop KDE using root?? how do I allow it?
[08:18] <|atlaswd|> I am on desktop
[08:18] <_casey> I JUST TOLD YOU HOW TO LOG INTO KDE AS ROOT
[08:18] <|atlaswd|> the file I running on desktop IM not Stupid
[08:18] <_casey> sudo passwd root
[08:18] <_casey> log out change username to root and type in password
[08:18] <_casey> its not complicated
[08:19] <|atlaswd|> it doesnt allot root logins sys the login
[08:19] <_casey> omg
[08:19] <_casey> yes it doies
[08:19] <_casey> does*
[08:19] <|atlaswd|> says*
[08:19] <|atlaswd|> No it doesnt, I tried
[08:19] <River> casey I think atlaswd and I am trying for the same thing jus using differn't words. using sudo I should be able to use system resouce wihtout moving to the loacltion? or aam I confusued?
[08:19] <|atlaswd|> not in gnome not in kde
[08:20] <|atlaswd|> Exclimation img Root logins are NOT allowed!
[08:20] <_casey> ok river you if the file command you want to issue is in your path for example /usr/bin for your user or /sbin for root
[08:20] <_casey> then you dont have navigate to the folder
[08:21] <_casey> but if the command is in ~/MyCommands then you have to do
[08:21] <_casey> cd ~/MyCommands
[08:21] <_casey> then do ./command
[08:21] <mihai_> how can i use sed to delete all the lines in FILE where WORD appears ?
[08:21] <_casey> mihai_ with what application?
[08:21] <mihai_> SED
[08:22] <|atlaswd|> not so cockey now are we _casey.. I tried login root i tried changing permissions & all I get is root is not allowed
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> jatlaswdj : what login manager are you using ?
[08:22] <River> okay I follw that but now I want aadmin privledge but I don't want to log in as root?
[08:22] <_casey> |atlaswd|: did you try changing the password
[08:22] <_casey> |atlaswd|: like i said
[08:22] <|atlaswd|> Yes failed
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> casey : you need to change gdm / kdm
[08:22] <River> I just want to say sudo passwd cmd
[08:22] <Ivaldi> Why is K3b allowing me to burn LESS on a single layer dvd than gnomebaker does?
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> to allow root login
[08:23] <|atlaswd|> I got 3 options in menu kde gnome & failsafe
[08:23] <|atlaswd|> how do I get into kdm then?
[08:23] <_casey> |atlaswd|: if you had half a brain you would have heard of google if you have and had a memory lapse i googled for what you want to do and low and behold the first result was http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=31053
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> if you are using kdm change AllowRootLogin=false to true in kdmrc
[08:24] <|atlaswd|> _casey if you would pull your dads penis out ur twat you would not be on ignore
[08:24] <bimberi> !conduct
[08:24] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:24] <_casey> |atlaswd|: please learn something about linux then come and here and tells us we dont know what we are talkign about when we try and help
[08:24] <_casey> thank you
[08:25] <mornfall> this channel must have turned into a flameplace while i was looking the other way
[08:25] <jtshaw> apparently...
[08:25] <mornfall> nalioth: you forgot the /kick step
[08:25] <_casey> no he just doesn't know anything about linux and we he doesn't understand what we are telling he gets pissy and crys
[08:25] <River> cassey I beleive you are doing a swell job of helping but some of get so lost we can't find the door
[08:25] <mornfall> fatality
[08:25] <_casey> river no complaint with you
[08:26] <apokryphos> a +q?
[08:26] <_casey> you have not cryd and carried like a child
[08:26] <_casey> carried on*
[08:27] <_casey> River are you trying to right a script to run a command with sudo privalges?
[08:27] <River> I'm still trying to unkonfuse myself on how to vi sudo so I can add myself a privledge so I can use sudo passwd cmd for temp admin during a short period wihtout logging in as root
[08:27] <_casey> if your the only user on the machine  and are not worried about securitty then just tell sudo in the config not to ask for a password
[08:27] <_casey> ok river then you want to do this
[08:27] <jtshaw> RIver: visudo
[08:28] <nalioth> River: sudo -i will get you a command shell
[08:28] <Ivaldi> Can I just ignore that 4.4 GB dvd size limit in K3b and burn more anyway?
[08:28] <_casey> just sudo root passwd and changed the password of root then you can just do su root inside any shell
[08:28] <mornfall> sudo sh? :-)
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> sudo -i
[08:28] <_casey> h3sp4wn: thats works as well
[08:28] <Dasnipa`> Ivaldi, that would be a question for the k3b dev team not kubuntu
[08:28] <_casey> but i prefer having a root password that i know
[08:29] <Ivaldi> Dasnipa`: sorry
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> sudo -i sets the environment variables properly whereas sudo sh doesn't
[08:29] <_casey> but su root works fine
[08:29] <nalioth> casey please dont recommend that
[08:30] <_casey> lol
[08:30] <nalioth> _casey: ubuntu is designed to use sudo for a reason
[08:30] <_casey> sry im not a fan of the sudo package
[08:30] <mornfall> nalioth: that is? :)
[08:30] <apokryphos> _casey: why?
[08:30] <Dasnipa`> now remember kids, already run irc and gaim as root
[08:30] <apokryphos> mornfall: it's a superior model
[08:30] <Dasnipa`> always*
[08:30] <_casey> no its better
[08:30] <nalioth> _casey: if you are gonna advise folks, please advise with the ubuntu designs in mind
[08:30] <River> okay when I use putty I have to always add a sudo provildeg for the putty user?
[08:30] <mornfall> apokryphos: superior my ass :-)
[08:30] <_casey> nalioth: understoof
[08:30] <_casey> nalioth: understood
[08:30] <mornfall> apokryphos: selinux is superior, right
[08:31] <mornfall> apokryphos: but currently probably only fedora implements it semi-decently
[08:31] <apokryphos> mornfall: it really is. Perhaps not so much in a single-user desktop system, but particularly in a conventional administrative system over/with a cluster of computers.
[08:31] <_casey> sudo package has advatages and disadvantages to having a root account ... no one method is better than the other
[08:32] <_casey> it just depends on the number of users
[08:32] <Dasnipa`> there was a /. article on sudo recently that showed that sudo is not necessarily better than su root
[08:32] <jtshaw> _casey: As somebody who has had to administer a large system... it is a lot easier to track who did what when sudo is involved
[08:32] <mornfall> can maybe someone enlighten me as to what is the difference between root account and sudo-enabled account?
[08:32] <_casey> Dasnipa`: i read it
[08:32] <_casey> jtshaw: notice i mentioned number of users
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> sudo is alot more secure (
[08:32] <_casey> jtshaw: but if they launch a root terminal with sudo then you can not track
[08:33] <Dasnipa`> h3sp4wn, untrue
[08:33] <_casey> h3sp4wn: that all depends
[08:33] <_casey> on your amount of users
[08:33] <jtshaw> _casey: Sudo logs that they did it at least...
[08:33] <_casey> jtshaw: so
[08:33] <_casey> jtshaw: that still wont prove anything
[08:33] <_casey> jtshaw: beyond that point
[08:34] <_casey> i got this from the atlas guy
[08:34] <_casey> http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=31053
[08:34] <_casey> oops sry
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> Well I used sudo when I setup a machine which was secured with secureid : which allowed ssh logins via keys to managed webservers so the support guys didn't need the root password everything was logged
[08:34] <_casey> [23:34]  <Fear_of_god> Stupi cunt I be back U little bitch YOU FUCKED WITH WRONG PERSON LITTLE TWAT SUCKER
[08:34] <apokryphos> _casey: ?
[08:34] <Dasnipa`> okay?
[08:34] <_casey> i got that from the guy that was banned
[08:34] <jtshaw> _casey: I suppose so.. but of course I would never give people enough sudo access to get a root shell
[08:34] <Dasnipa`> who cares?
[08:35] <Dasnipa`> report it to freenode, not kubuntu chan
[08:35] <nalioth> _casey: that is uncalled for here
[08:35] <_casey> then ban me
[08:35] <apokryphos> _casey: please don't be annoying.
[08:35] <_casey> im not
[08:37] <_casey> anyways back to the point jtshaw you should really check out the slashdot post about sudo
[08:37] <_casey> its very objective
[08:38] <apokryphos> _casey: what slashdot post?
[08:38] <_casey> the one on sudo
[08:39] <Dasnipa`> http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot?m=4395
[08:39] <_casey> its a good article no bias objective and informative
[08:40] <apokryphos> I really don't buy the first few "security" criticisms there
[08:40] <apokryphos> "This means that if someone guesses your password or steals it (and has access to it locally or via SSH), they can take over your box just as if you had root enabled."
[08:41] <apokryphos> security-wise, the sudo model and the conventional su root one are virtually identical
[08:41] <jtshaw> If I'm reading this correctly it is basically making the arguement "if you give your admin password away they can break into your box"
[08:41] <apokryphos> for example, the above there applies the same for root
[08:41] <jtshaw> that is not enlightening
[08:41] <apokryphos> precisely
[08:41] <_casey> jtshaw: thats not what its saying
[08:41] <_casey> jtshaw: you couldn't have read the whole article by now
[08:41] <apokryphos> sudo, anyhow, can be set up to not require your user pass
[08:42] <_casey> it mentions that
[08:42] <_casey> farther down
[08:42] <apokryphos> conventional root is too limited
[08:42] <apokryphos> (when you have a more traditional "mainframe" organisation)
[08:42] <h3sp4wn> sudo with ssh and public keys is much more convenient then remembering loads of root passwords
[08:42] <_casey> apokryphos: what can sudo give you that your root account cant
[08:43] <_casey> ?
[08:43] <apokryphos> have to shoot out for a sec; be right back
[08:43] <_casey> one a single user machine
[08:43] <apokryphos> _casey: that's entirely different.
[08:43] <apokryphos> _casey: on  a *single* user machine they're practically the same, apart from it vaguely suggests some good [security]  policies
[08:44] <apokryphos> I'll discuss it  as soon as I'm back if I can
[08:44] <_casey> apokryphos: i still think that a root account can be just as secure if you take the same percautions as you would with sudo
[08:44] <_casey> k
[08:44] <jtshaw> sudo allows you run commands without switching accounts and without making all you commands run with root priv.  It also allows you to give partial root permission to users on a machine with many users without giving them the keys to the palace so to speak
[08:44] <Dasnipa`> i want that new ati vid card btw... 1 gig of ram and supports 2 30"ers at 2560x1600 res each
[08:45] <_casey> jtsaw: you dont have to switch accounts to run root commands
[08:45] <_casey> as long as you a member of the wheel group
[08:46] <jtshaw> I'm aware that you can also do su <command>, but that provides zero granularity
[08:46] <jtshaw> and requires the root password
[08:46] <_casey> no you would su root and change to the root user and execute all the root commands you want the su user
[08:47] <_casey> and be done with it instead of typing sudo in front of every command
[08:47] <_casey> i have found uses for sudo though so dont get me wrong im not saying it sucks
[08:47] <nalioth> _casey: sudo -i does the same thing
[08:47] <h3sp4wn> you should do su - (not su root) or else some of the bash variable's ($HOME etc don't get changed)
[08:48] <_casey> nalioth: then how is their a difference
[08:48] <_casey> h3sp4wn: me $home changes on gentoo
[08:48] <nalioth> !root
[08:48] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:48] <_casey> when i su root
[08:48] <nalioth> _casey: this is a help channel for new users.  sudo works fine.
[08:49] <_casey> nalioth: im not trying to convince anyone to switch we are having a disscussion about sudo vs root account nothing more
[08:49] <nalioth> _casey: then you need to be in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:49] <jtshaw> _casey: All leave it at this.. I suppose (only in the case of a single user machine where the admin is the signle user) they are effectively the same thing... but in any other case, sudo provides lots of features su doesn't, that is not disputable
[08:50] <_casey> jtshaw: as i said a few million times i agree
[08:51] <_casey> but i still dont see a point in not having a root account
[08:51] <_casey> thats all
[08:52] <nalioth> _casey: this needs to go into #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:52] <_casey> its over
[08:52] <_casey> ended a minuts ago
[08:52] <_casey> minute*
[09:07] <cran> hi
[09:08] <robotgeek> hi
[09:08] <cran> ist there anybody who would be able to explain to me why nvidia-glx-legacy does conflict with xorg-driver-fglrx?
[09:08] <cran> s/ist/is/
[09:09] <robotgeek> cran: looks like one is binary (properietary), and other is Free/OSS
[09:09] <_casey> im guessing because you only need to have 1 of thoose
[09:09] <cran> robotgeek: they're fr completely different brands of cards
[09:09] <cran> i have both cards installed in my computer
[09:09] <cran> one geforc
[09:09] <_casey> cran: how are you using them
[09:09] <_casey> sli?
[09:09] <cran> and one ati radeon
[09:10] <cran> not sli
[09:10] <Snake__> _casey: sli wont run unless its 2 nvid cards
[09:10] <_casey> was going to say that you couldn't sli 2 different cards
[09:10] <cran> Well, I just start two X Servers
[09:10] <_casey> Snake__: hehe i know
[09:10] <cran> which used to work PERFECTLY with my radeon 9200
[09:10] <cran> now I have upgraded to 9800 and things aren"t as good...
[09:10] <Snake__> _casey: and, believe it or not, crossfire wont dual up with nvidia!!! wow! :)
[09:10] <Snake__>  /end sarcasm
[09:11] <cran> s
[09:11] <cran> so
[09:11] <_casey> Snake__: me knows as well
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> cran : how many monitors are you trying to run ?
[09:11] <cran> h3sp4wn: two
[09:11] <_casey> cran: try getting a dual vga or dvi out video card
[09:11] <Snake__> _casey: im sure ya do, I just wanted to get my sarcastic remark in there
[09:11] <Snake__> :)
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> and the 9800 only has one output
[09:11] <_casey> Snake__: heh
[09:11] <cran> _casey: hm well, just because those two packages are conflicting? :(
[09:11] <cran> :(
[09:11] <cran> ->  :)
[09:12] <_casey> cran: nvidia and ati have completly different xorg configurations
[09:12] <_casey> is why they conflict
[09:12] <cran> okay. I had the following setup running: TWO cards (one geforce PCI and one radeon 9200 AGP)
[09:12] <cran> TWO monitors
[09:12] <cran> TWO keyboards and TWO mice
[09:12] <cran> this works
[09:12] <h3sp4wn> you just need seperate device sections
[09:12] <cran> I have it running already!
[09:12] <cran> it works with the nv xorg driver
[09:13] <cran> but now I want to try the proprietary nvidia driver
[09:13] <_casey> im guess they asume you are not going to be using to different brands of cards in the same computer
[09:13] <cran> _casey: yes
[09:13] <cran> _casey: looks like
[09:13] <_casey> so the packages are going to conflict
[09:14] <cran> _casey: and there could be a technical reason to do so, maybe the drivers really conflict or sth
[09:14] <cran> on the other hand
[09:14] <cran> default ubbuntu installs VASTS of xorg drivers
[09:14] <_casey> i think it has alot to do with X its self as to why
[09:14] <cran> at the same time
[09:14] <cran> its just those two that seem to conflict...
[09:14] <cran> hmhmhm.
[09:14] <_casey> cran: just use a dual vga or dvi out card
[09:15] <_casey> wouldn't that be best?
[09:15] <_casey> or easiest at any rate
[09:15] <cran> _casey: I don"t think you can run such a dual head card with two differents VTs
[09:15] <cran> I have two distinct x sessins running at the same time now
[09:15] <cran> thats what I want
[09:15] <_casey> oh ok i see what you are going
[09:16] <cran> I have a multiseat setup
[09:16] <h3sp4wn> cran: you can my 9800 pro can run two seperate X servers - one on each
[09:16] <cran> h3sp4wn: one on each what?
[09:16] <_casey> output
[09:16] <cran> h3sp4wn: sorry but my 9800 has only one output!?
[09:16] <h3sp4wn> : one on DVI one on vga
[09:16] <cran> hu
[09:16] <_casey> like dvi out 1 and dvi out 2
[09:17] <cran> no
[09:17] <cran> just one single dvi
[09:17] <cran> and one tv out
[09:17] <cran> there might be variations among cards which are called 9800 pro
[09:17] <cran> hm
[09:17] <cran> okay
[09:17] <cran> anyway
[09:18] <cran> how would I force package installation :)
[09:18] <_casey> cran: my only to real suggestions would be buy a card with dual out or buy another card of the same brand
[09:18] <nalioth> cran: "force" breaks things
[09:18] <cran> just to PROVE that they do not conflict (or do)
[09:18] <_david> might anyone have a clue why some of my route-rules dissapear after about half an hour?
[09:18] <cran> :)
[09:18] <cran> nalioth: well, at the moment my girlfriend can not work, thats what I would call broken :)
[09:18] <h3sp4wn> cran : can you not just manually install the drivers
[09:19] <cran> h3sp4wn: you mean downloading from the nvidia site?
[09:19] <h3sp4wn> cran : yes
[09:19] <cran> maybe
[09:19] <cran> but then I can not write a bugreport afterwards and tell the package maintainers that this conflict is not necessary
[09:19] <cran> :)
[09:20] <_casey> im going to bet that its necessary
[09:20] <cran> yes probably...
[09:20] <cran> but I want to see it
[09:20] <cran> because this kind of setup is extremely useful
[09:20] <cran> at least for me...
[09:22] <cran> thanks for helping anyway
[09:22] <h3sp4wn> sudo apt-get install --force-yes nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:22] <h3sp4wn> don't blame me if it breaks tho
[09:23] <chx> hi. how could I add a modeline for my second monitor. http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html I read this.
[09:24] <cran> h3sp4wn: thanks, already found about dpkg --force-conflicts
[09:24] <cran> okay
[09:25] <cran> now I see why those packages conflict
[09:25] <cran> and it makes perfect sense :)
[09:25] <cran> dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx-legacy' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[09:25] <cran> dpkg: error processing ./nvidia-glx-legacy_1.0.7174+2.6.15.7-2_i386.deb (--install):
[09:26] <_casey> see
[09:26] <cran> what a pity
[09:26] <cran> because I don"t care about GL at all
[09:28] <cran> okay, another question: how would I prevent a certain module from being loaded at run time?
[09:28] <nico8481> hi
[09:29] <_marcin> hi @ll
[09:29] <_casey> cran: you can probably google for a quick answer to that ... i could tell you with gentoo but i dont use ubuntu all that much
[09:29] <_casey> just here at work
[09:30] <Kyral> how do I "refresh" the KDE Menu?
[09:30] <_casey> Kyral: try restarting kicker
[09:30] <_casey> do like killall kicker && kicker
[09:32] <h3sp4wn> cran : you could possibly use chroot and install another copy of ubuntu / debian in the chroot then you could use the nvidia drivers under that
[09:33] <_casey> h3sp4wn: i still think it would be easier to get a card or the same brand or with dual out...heh
[09:33] <_casey> of the same*
[09:33] <cran> h3sp4wn: then I wouldnt really benefit from having a single system for two users :)
[09:34] <cran> h3sp4wn: then I'd rather buy another machine...
[09:36] <cran> _casey: yes would be easier of course
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> cran : the X server would be all that was running under the chroot it would still access the same computer outside the chroot.
[09:36] <cran> _casey: but I want to prove it's poossible like this
[09:37] <cran> h3sp4wn: hm
[09:37] <cran> h3sp4wn: that's an interesting idea
[09:37] <cran> h3sp4wn: reminds me a bit of xephyr
[09:45] <stout2_> HI guy, and ladies
[09:45] <stout2_> or HI
[09:45] <stout2_> please, How cam i disable automount/autoplat of dvd video?
[09:46] <cran> stout2_: in kde?
[09:46] <robotgeek> stout2_: k-menu -> system settings -> storage media
[09:46] <cran> well its the same in gnome anyway...
[09:49] <stout2_> emm. whwn i go on Disk and Filesystem, it require administrator password, i put my psw and do nothing appera
[09:50] <sorush21> adept has no form of warning when you are removing critical packages..
[09:50] <mornfall> dum di dum
[09:51] <robotgeek> mornfall: i'll leave this one to you :)
[09:51] <stout2_> I think i must be root, i dont "create" the root "user", its the right way to cahnge permesiion automount ondisk?
[09:51] <mornfall> sorush21: yeah, well, true :)
[09:51] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell stout2_ about root
[09:52] <sorush21> do you guys think that was missed in the brain storming of adept package manger.?
[09:52] <mornfall> brain storming?
[09:52] <robotgeek> sorush21: are you on breezy or dapper?
[09:53] <mornfall> well, yes, i have nice sessions brainstorming with myself
[09:53] <mornfall> in front of a mirror
[09:53] <sorush21> breezy
[09:53] <sorush21> but I do know that they have improved it in dapper
[09:53] <robotgeek> sorush21: adept in dapper is very nice
[09:53] <robotgeek> sorush21: with all those warnings
[09:53] <sorush21> robotgeek: yep but a warning feature is basic..
[09:53] <mornfall> robotgeek: what warnings? :-)
[09:54] <robotgeek> mornfall: the red text with BREAK in it?
[09:54] <mornfall> robotgeek: oh, well, that was in breezy too methinks
[09:54] <robotgeek> mornfall: never tried it in breezy, maybe once
[09:54] <mornfall> fact is, it is still a bit on the trusting the user to know what he's doing side
[09:55] <mornfall> and i think adept manager will always be
[09:55] <mornfall> it should catch obviously stupid things like removing all packages and such :)
[09:55] <mornfall> but its brain is too small for now
[09:57] <henrik_> anyone know if the firefox-package is broken in dapper? it doesn't seem to contain any binary..
[09:57] <crimsun> crimsun@garnish:~$ dpkg -L firefox|grep '/usr/bin/'
[09:57] <crimsun> /usr/bin/firefox
[09:57] <crimsun> /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[09:57] <stout2_> emmm no dudo... sudo
[09:57] <henrik_> crimsun: no such
[09:57] <crimsun> henrik_: it's fine here
[09:58] <McScruff> henrik_ wasnt yesterday
[09:58] <henrik_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/616821
[09:59] <crimsun> henrik_: purge it and reinstall it
[09:59] <trappist> there's nothing in the changelog that would have fixed something like that
[10:00] <noteventime> Is there any free shader IDE for linux?
[10:01] <henrik_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/616830
[10:01] <noteventime> A l shadermonkey
[10:01] <stout2_> another problem... when i redor a dvd-video with k3b, then the system dont play the film, Kaffeine said me i dont have the right permission to read the dvd, why?
[10:02] <ninHer___> any opinion about the brand new dapper ?
[10:02] <henrik_> ok i looked in the package file and there's no binary in it
[10:03] <henrik_> firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1ubuntu9_i386.deb 7892402 bytes
[10:03] <henrik_> b2599228feb8044bd8730bd7b41cad43
[10:04] <henrik_> okay i removed the package from the cache, reinstalled it, same issue
[10:04] <henrik_> can anyone verify what .deb they have?
[10:04] <henrik_> maybe it's just broken on this mirror?
[10:05] <crimsun> henrik_: which mirror?
[10:05] <henrik_> .se
[10:05] <henrik_> http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1ubuntu9_i386.deb
[10:05] <henrik_> err
[10:05] <henrik_> wrong one
[10:05] <henrik_> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[10:05] <henrik_> thats the one
[10:06] <crimsun> what's the output from apt-cache policy firefox?
[10:07] <henrik_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/616845
[10:07] <henrik_> huh. the one i got frmo the link i accidently pasted above has another md5sum.
[10:07] <henrik_> don't know if its the right one though :)
[10:08] <crimsun> 2ca362c9be49f98754fd77d64a72ab6d  firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1ubuntu9_i386.deb
[10:08] <ryanakca> dapper crashing my computer is normal, right?
[10:09] <crimsun> mini flood
[10:09] <crimsun> crimsun@garnish:~$ dpkg-deb -c ./firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1ubuntu9_i386.deb |grep '/usr/bin'
[10:09] <crimsun> drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2006-03-14 13:16:44 ./usr/bin/
[10:09] <crimsun> lrwxrwxrwx root/root         0 2006-03-14 13:16:44 ./usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox
[10:09] <crimsun> lrwxrwxrwx root/root         0 2006-03-14 13:16:44 ./usr/bin/mozilla-firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox
[10:09] <crimsun> henrik_: you appear to have a local issue. Proxied, perhaps?
[10:09] <henrik_> nope.
[10:10] <McScruff> henrik, dapper is running fine atm for me
[10:10] <crimsun> the deb you referenced contains the appropriate structure.
[10:10] <henrik_> wtf.
[10:10] <henrik_> why does this one: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1ubuntu9_i386.deb
[10:10] <henrik_> differ from the one aptitude install for me?
[10:11] <crimsun> is the one that aptitude installs cached in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[10:11] <henrik_> crimsun: i tried to remove the one there and purge / install it again, still no bin
[10:11] <henrik_> weird.
[10:12] <crimsun> dude, you definitely have a local issue, because I just attempted to purge and reinstall, and it worked fine.
[10:12] <henrik_> now it worked.
[10:12] <henrik_> what the hell?
[10:12] <henrik_> i haven't changed _any_ configuration files
[10:12] <crimsun> are you proxied?
[10:12] <crimsun> does your ISP have a transparent proxy?
[10:12] <henrik_> i've done purge ; install several times, and removed the .deb in /var/ has not worked and the .deb in /var/cache had different md5sum
[10:12] <henrik_> and NOW it suddenly worked to purge ; install
[10:13] <henrik_> no i'm not proxied and neither should my isp do
[10:13] <henrik_> anyways, i guess it's worked out whatever it was.
[10:13] <trappist> apt-get remove --purge doesn't remove the /var/cache/apt/archives package, does it?
[10:13] <henrik_> nope.
[10:13] <trappist> just config files
[10:14] <LinuxCart> Hello, one short question: how could I disable the removable media autolaunching in breezy?
[10:14] <LinuxCart> thanks in advance
[10:15] <_oOXxXOo_> I'm not sure.
[10:15] <_oOXxXOo_> Good Luck
[10:17] <LinuxCart> I hope I have explained correctly. When I insert a (i.e.) CD konqueror opens automatically
[10:17] <LinuxCart> that's what I would like to disable
[10:20] <henrik_> okay.. question.. how do i make as much as possible localized to for example swedish for one user only?
[10:20] <henrik_> i've got kde to swedish.. but not firefox
[10:20] <henrik_> even though i installed the locale for swedish firefox
[10:20] <henrik_> is there some setting anywhere?
[10:21] <suppaman> hi
[10:21] <suppaman> McScruff: hi :-)
[10:21] <McScruff> lo
[10:23] <suppaman> could someone pls perform a  dpkg -S libkdeui.so.4  ?
[10:23] <McScruff> kdelibs4c2a: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
[10:24] <McScruff> kdelibs4c2a: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4.2.0
[10:24] <jayr168> how do I make an application start always as maximized
[10:24] <suppaman> thx
[10:24] <_thumper_> does anyone else here use amaroK with music on a samba share?
[10:24] <_thumper_> And do you have problems with it crashing?
[10:25] <LinuxCart> jayr168: I would go to Preferences->Desktop->Specific window preferences and there you can see come more
[10:25] <suppaman> there's something wrong
[10:25] <noteventime> Is there something like renderonkey on linux?
[10:25] <noteventime> rendermonkey*
[10:25] <suppaman> suppa@bronco:~$ dpkg -L kdelibs4c2a | grep kdeui
[10:25] <suppaman> suppa@bronco:~$
[10:25] <suppaman> McScruff: are you on dapper ?
[10:25] <noteventime> http://satoolkit.sourceforge.net/downloads.htm <- I've had a look at this but there are no files availible yet-
[10:26] <McScruff> suppaman: yep
[10:27] <burgermann> Hi. When I connect to my canon camera through the camera:/ protocol and try to transfer pictures it tries, but stops and gives the error (translated from danish): Protocol process died unexpected. Is that a bug?
[10:28] <henrik_> okay how the !"# do i use the mozilla-firefox-locale-* packages?
[10:29] <alexnicol> Evening
[10:29] <alexnicol> Quick quiz:  Currently have Ubuntu installed
[10:29] <alexnicol> but would rather have KDE as desktop
[10:30] <_mindspin> install kde-desktop
[10:30] <alexnicol> is it possible to just install KDE and uninstall Gnome?  Or do I need to download kubuntu?
[10:30] <alexnicol> beat me to it :P
[10:30] <_mindspin> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[10:30] <Kyral> but Kubuntu-Desktop comes with a lot of nice goodies
[10:31] <LinuxCart> or sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:31] <alexnicol> ok cool
[10:31] <Kyral> (Think the XFCE4-Goodies package but for KDE :P)
[10:31] <alexnicol> aptitude?
[10:31] <alexnicol> not a command I know
[10:31] <alexnicol> sorry - bit of a n00b
[10:31] <LinuxCart> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[10:31] <Random_Transit> hey, does anyone know of any good online C++ tutorials?
[10:31] <LinuxCart> it's just like apt-get but more powerful
[10:31] <Random_Transit> something geared towards beginners
[10:31] <noteventime> You could get Thinking in c++
[10:31] <alexnicol> ah cool
[10:31] <alexnicol> nice one
[10:32] <noteventime> Ok, not then
[10:32] <cycus_zwisus> kde 3.5.2 - when?
[10:32] <Random_Transit> yeah...been wanting to get back into programming for a while
[10:32] <alexnicol> Right ok - so 450+ MB of archives now downloading
[10:32] <Random_Transit> haven't really been into it since high school
[10:33] <alexnicol> whilst thats going, how do I get it to become default?
[10:33] <henrik_> finally.
[10:33] <henrik_> firefox -UILocale sv-se
[10:33] <alexnicol> do I just remove Gnome?
[10:33] <Kr4t05> Random_Transit, I could personally teach you some C++.
[10:33] <Kr4t05> Well
[10:34] <Random_Transit> kr4t05...really?
[10:34] <Kr4t05> What platform?
[10:34] <Random_Transit> linux
[10:34] <Kr4t05> Ah...
[10:34] <Random_Transit> i must warn you...the extent of my programming knowledge is HTML and QBasic...
[10:34] <Kr4t05> See, the course I'm taking is in MS Visual C++, so I'm not sure if it is the same.
[10:35] <noteventime> Kr4t05: I could try to help with the linux stuff
[10:35] <suppaman> noteventime: what's Gelato ?
[10:35] <dereks> Random_Transit: you want to learn c++?
[10:35] <Random_Transit> yeah
[10:35] <Kr4t05> Random_Transit: Just keep leafing through Google and see what you can find.
[10:35] <przemio> Hello, I've just installed and upgraded Dapper and I cant figure out how to install my favourite mplayer, could you give me any instructions?
[10:35] <suppaman> take Eckel's books
[10:35] <dereks> Random_Transit: go to your local bookstore and pick up the appropriate o'reilly book
[10:35] <noteventime> suppaman: I'm not sure, It's somekind of nvidia financed shader thingy
[10:36] <suppaman> that means "ice cream"
[10:36] <Random_Transit> dereks...mucho short on $$$, dude.
[10:36] <jayr168> in kde how to I make the 'task bar' same color as the kicker bar?
[10:36] <suppaman> Random_Transit: Eckel's are free
[10:36] <suppaman> Random_Transit: you can download them
[10:36] <Random_Transit> suppaman, where would i find them?
[10:36] <dereks> Random_Transit: half.com
[10:36] <noteventime> But they aren't for beginners
[10:36] <Kr4t05> Random_Transit, you could also look at your local library.
[10:36] <Random_Transit> ah
[10:37] <noteventime> Random_Transit
[10:37] <suppaman> Random_Transit: search for Thinking in C++
[10:37] <Random_Transit> yeah, that's true...only i live in the middle of nowhere...there's not a library for at least 30KM
[10:37] <suppaman> guys this is weird, I should have libkdeui.so.4 but I have not
[10:38] <jayr168> how do I make my task bar same color as my panel in KDE 3.4?
[10:39] <L0sT> Hi guys. I need some help.  How do I free up tmpfs?
[10:46] <pysiak> hello
[10:46] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:46] <suppaman> pls could someone else perform a   dpkg -S libkdeui.so.4  ??
[10:47] <suppaman> pls, it's a matter of seconds for you
[10:48] <noteventime> Sure
[10:48] <suppaman> I'm getting crazy
[10:48] <noteventime> What is it?
[10:48] <suppaman> rosegarden won't start because It miss a kdelibs but apt-get is supposed to have satisfied dependecies
[10:48] <pysiak> is katapult always slow, or is it something with my gfx drivers? I mean, when it shows up, and has this shadow/transparency it renders slowly, when i type it reacts slow too, i have radeon 9600 running fglrx drivers on athlon 2.0 so it ought to go fine, but does not, any hints?
[10:48] <noteventime> kdelibs4c2a: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
[10:48] <noteventime> kdelibs4c2a: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4.2.0
[10:48] <suppaman> but it happens that my kdelibs4c2a has got not no libkdeui
[10:48] <suppaman> omg
[10:49] <suppaman> noteventime: what repository ?
[10:49] <noteventime> What package?
[10:49] <noteventime> kdelibs4c2a?
[10:49] <suppaman> kdelibs4c2a
[10:49] <suppaman> yes
[10:50] <suppaman> how can I inspect a .deb ?
[10:50] <LinuxCart> suppaman: with ark
[10:50] <suppaman> oh lol
[10:50] <noteventime> How do i know?
[10:50] <_master> hello?
[10:50] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:50] <pysiak> dpkg -l file.deb ?
[10:50] <suppaman> I downloaded the same package as McScruff but then I was searching the library on a ssh session
[10:50] <pysiak> -s, -L too
[10:50] <LinuxCart> suppaman: if you are brave you can use ar + tar xvfj
[10:51] <suppaman> the other box hasn't the lib installed :-p
[10:51] <suppaman> noteventime: it's ok I've got the lib
[10:51] <noteventime> ok
[10:51] <suppaman> noteventime: you can search the repository for a package with   apt-cache policy packagename
[10:52] <noteventime> I know, but how do i see what repo it is from?
[10:55] <wawa> I need some help.  How do I free up tmpfs? I cant start xserver
[10:55] <Red_Herring> delete something
[10:56] <stout2__> good night, if nght, for me its night.... good day people
[10:56] <wawa> Red_Herring: in what?
[11:00] <pysiak> wow, breezy: -updates, -backports -proposed, didn't know about them
[11:00] <_cedric> hi i have a fresh installation of kubuntu.. i was woundeing if there was any userguide regarding kubuntu not kde, actualy i need it to install nvidia
[11:00] <Random_Transit> hey, how come i can't get sound in flash movies?
[11:01] <_cedric> else any web url regarding the installation of nvidia under kubuntu would be great
[11:02] <pysiak> hmm, i added proposed, backports and updates but no new packages, hmm.
[11:04] <_cedric> hmhm
[11:06] <_cedric> bonjours jaimerais savoir si il y a un site ou un userguide pour maider a installer nvidia sous kubuntu.. jai une installation fraiche
[11:06] <_cedric> oop
[11:06] <_cedric> ssorry
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[11:07] <jayr168> how do I make my task bar transparent?
[11:08] <jayr168> not the PANEL, I mean the task bar in KDE 3.4?
[11:10] <suppaman> bye
[11:11] <ryanakca> kinda off topic, is there a good free dns service provider that accepts domain/subdomains like this: ryanakca.ca.eu.org  ?
[11:11] <ryanakca> most of them only accept the domain (eu.org), not the domain with subdomain (ryanakca.ca.eu.org)
[11:12] <pysiak> i am using freedns.sgh.waw.pl for my eu.org domains
[11:12] <pysiak> (has english interface)
[11:12] <pysiak> http://freedns.sgh.waw.pl
[11:12] <rysiek|pl> ryanakca: dyndns.org?
[11:12] <pysiak> their ns are fns1.sgh.waw.pl and fns2.sgh.waw.pl
[11:13] <ryanakca> pysiak: thanks
[11:13] <pysiak> np :-)
[11:13] <stoned> hi, I have previes enabled for largest file size and ALL protocols and I still can't see any previews in konqueror
[11:14] <stoned> there are no thumbnails
[11:15] <ryanakca> pysiak: it primary or secondary zone?
[11:16] <pysiak> you can have both, depending on your preferences
[11:17] <ryanakca> kk
[11:17] <pysiak> if you have no NS at all you can make a primary zone there (on fns1.sgh.waw.pl) the secondary zone is created automatically on fns2.sgh.waw.pl
[11:18] <pysiak> so when registering eu.org you should first create a primary zone there, wait until they get reloaded (every 30mins i think, they send email)
[11:18] <pysiak> then check if fns1 and fns2 answer correctly (they should)
[11:18] <pysiak> and then ask eu.org to register your domain with these NSs (providing both names and IPs, which is good for the sake of DNS glue)
[11:19] <pysiak> and then wait till the eu.org registrar does his work :-) (may take some time though)
[11:19] <_cedric> hi i have a fresh installation of kubuntu.. i was woundering if there was any userguide regarding kubuntu not kde, actualy i need it to install nvidia
[11:19] <pysiak> personally, I have a few master and a few slave zones there.
[11:20] <pysiak> _cedric : hmm, you can google it easily, i am just browsing this: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[11:26] <ryanakca> pysiak: is a month and a half normal wait?
[11:31] <pysiak> ryanakca : at eu.org? no, the longest i've waited is 2 weekd, please remind yourself, the dns admin will hopefully act and do it soon.
[11:32] <pysiak> i think in email from the eu.org dns admin there is a note about reminding yourself if you don't get service (after all we're only human)
[11:32] <ryanakca> reminding ourselfs? or reminding them?
[11:32] <noteventime> !intel
[11:32] <ubotu> noteventime: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:33] <pysiak> yeah, them :-)
[11:33] <pysiak> remind them about yourself :-)
[11:34] <sbms> hello, does anyone know how til activate/deactivate prelink in kubuntu
[11:34] <sbms> ?  ? ?
[11:35] <holotone> How do I get a program (nm-applet) to run every time @ startup in kubuntu? I know how to do it in Gnome, just not KDE
[11:36] <sbms> maybe KCron
[11:37] <holotone> I have to make it a cron job? There isn't just a place I can put apps that need to run @ startup?
[11:37] <spiritz> holotone: create a script in ~/.kde/Autostart to start the program
[11:41] <ryanakca> pysiak: kk, I'll just send them an e-mail? or resubmit the whole thing?
[11:42] <pysiak> i sent an email i think
[11:42] <gamma> i just updated dapper.. why did the bootsplash become ugly blue?
[11:42] <gamma> i liked the old one @_@
[11:42] <danimo> the old one was blue, too
[11:42] <gamma> light blue, this one is like perfect blue which looks ugly
[11:44] <danimo> gamma: don't tell me. the master himself wants crystal style colors
[11:45] <gamma> that's far from crystal in my opinion :P haha
[11:49] <Rayman_> dapper splash gave me more efficient and professional feeling to be honst
[11:49] <Rayman_> *honest
[11:50] <Rayman_> and I keep asking myself how's that possible. :)
[11:52] <_cedric> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop  ... what should i put in kubuntu for gedit
[11:52] <_cedric> ?
[11:53] <ompaul> kate
[11:53] <_cedric> ok thank you
[11:53] <Rayman_> _cedric: kdesu kate
[11:54] <_cedric> kdesu instead of sudo?
[11:54] <Rayman_> yup
[11:54] <ompaul> Rayman_, until it breaks there is that feeling of happyness then there is that feeling of, ahh I shouldawaited
[11:54] <Rayman_> ompaul: kate simply won't run through sudo
[11:54] <ompaul> _cedric, actually kdesu and gksudo should be used for graphical programs you could so sudo nano
[11:55] <holotone> spiritz: I'm not sure how to do that...
[11:55] <holotone> Isn't there just a place I can put "Run At Startup" lines?
[11:56] <Rayman_> ./home/user/.kde/Autostart/
[11:56] <holotone> Rayman: I tried "gedit ./home/user/.kde/Autostart/"
[11:56] <holotone> and got invalid file
[11:56] <Rayman_> it's a dir
[11:57] <rysiek|pl> a wee bit offtop: guys, anybody knows how/where to set Gtk2 tooltips' text colour to be different than default?
[11:57] <holotone> ok, then I can put any text file any there and anything in it will run?
[11:57] <ryanakca> I know that this is completly and absolutly offtopic, but when modifying a domain name at eu.org what does this mean: "Error: reply address "me@myemail.com" is not one of the contact addresses."
[11:57] <Rayman_> holotone: to be honest I have no idea. might work that way.
[11:57] <bobbyd> hi
[11:57] <Rayman_> never needed it, juts came across it today.
[11:58] <holotone> isn't there a place in the control panel that I can just type "nm-applet" into so it will run @ startup, like in Gnome?
[11:58] <bobbyd> is there a list of dapper sources for kubuntu anywhere?
[11:58] <Rayman_> bobbyd: apt sources?
[11:59] <spiritz> holotone: create a file into this directory; for instance gedit ~/.kde/Autostart/myapps; then in this file type the following header : #!/bin/bash, then under type the program you want to start, each line ending with a "&" so they're launched in background
[12:00] <holotone> spiritz: so the startup line would be "nm-applet&" ?
[12:01] <holotone> or "nm-applet &" ?
[12:01] <ryanakca> holotone: I'll save you a pile of trouble. go "sudo apt-get install kcontrol-autostart"
[12:01] <SlimG> does xgl only support nvidia and ati cards?
[12:01] <spiritz> holotone: it's the same
[12:01] <ryanakca> holotone: then just run kcontrol :)
[12:01] <spiritz> SlimG: both
[12:02] <holotone> Killer, exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
[12:02] <bobbyd> Rayman_, yes...
[12:02] <Rayman_> bobbyd: http://rafb.net/paste/results/q0pVOQ97.html
[12:02] <Rayman_> that's what I use.
[12:02] <holotone> E: Couldn't find package kcontrol-autostart
[12:02] <holotone> ryanakca: E: Couldn't find package kcontrol-autostart
[12:02] <bobbyd> Rayman_, thanks