[12:00] <yamathan> Hmm ...
[12:00] <gnomefreak> transgress: you can remove it
[12:00] <Toki_Masa> _frank: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/applications
[12:00] <Toki_Masa> Scroll down to "Ubuntu for Eduction".
[12:00] <barktpolar> I'm sticing with Ubuntu
[12:00] <_frank> gnomefreak: I thought that was mostly for easy installation in schools
[12:00] <gnomefreak> transgress: its not gonna affect anything
[12:00] <mzinz> rukuartic, i see
[12:00] <juztin> barktpolar, me too
[12:00] <rukuartic> Does anyone know what logs moniter LAN status? My router got shut down today and I'd like to know what time it happened.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> _frank: it has teacher/tudent packages
[12:00] <Toki_Masa> Also: What's a good mirror to use to download? Or should I use BitTorrent?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> student
[12:01] <barktpolar> At least with Ubuntu, you can order CDs for it
[12:01] <Eroick> gnomefreak: can i delete the files by hand then tell dpkg that its gone somehow?
[12:01] <jmorris> xpti.dat it says to delete but another faq says to delete this to remove it
[12:01] <_frank> Toki_Masa: oh... That could be said of many linux distributions
[12:01] <rukuartic> mzinz: Its just a graphical front end to linux. If you type "ls" in the terminal, it outputs all the files in the directory. Gnome/fluxbox/others just take that information and put it in a box with icons
[12:01] <rukuartic> mzinz: and a few other things :P
[12:01] <barktpolar> You can't order Kubuntu or Edubuntu discs
[12:01] <gnomefreak> Eroick: you can try sudo dpkg -r packagename
[12:01] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak, you know if it has college student apps?
[12:01] <sfar-ubu> !firefox1.5
[12:01] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:01] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: off hand no i dont
[12:01] <mzinz> rukuartic, thanks :)
[12:01] <Eroick> hnomei did
[12:01] <gnomefreak> !edubuntu
[12:01] <ubotu> edubuntu is probably an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu
[12:01] <gnomefreak> ^^^^
[12:01] <Toki_Masa> Hmm. I heard good things about Debian and Ubuntu, and Ubuntu seems cool to me, so I'[m going there for my first distro.
[12:02] <rukuartic> mzinz: no problem.
[12:02] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak, thanks anyway... never hurts to ask
[12:02] <rumpledrev> alexk_, its hard to gett an answer!!! I have audio probs too
[12:02] <rukuartic> Toki_Masa: Good choice D:
[12:02] <rukuartic> *:D
[12:02] <mzinz> rukuartic, in this screen, how did he get that thing on the left? It looks like gDesklets but they dont mention it: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=212702003543b821f3279ba&p=screen
[12:02] <Toki_Masa> But should I use BT or a mirror to download ubuntu?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: read the page ubotu posted for your answer
[12:02] <jbritz22> anyone know how to disable minimize animations?
[12:02] <barktpolar> Toki_Masa: Ubuntu is better than Debian, you can get Free Cds for Ubuntu
[12:02] <gnomefreak> Toki_Masa: alot of people use bittorrent but its up to you i use server
[12:02] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak, i did, but i couldn't find a list of anythign that comes in it
[12:02] <Majd> redguy, should i make swap primary or logical?
[12:02] <Toki_Masa> I'm going to burn my own DVD so I can save it and reuse on disk.
[12:02] <redguy> Majd: no difference
[12:02] <Majd> ok
[12:03] <Toki_Masa> Like with other versions of Ubuntu.
[12:03] <nlogax> Blippe does the debootstrap box have sudo too
[12:03] <nlogax> ?
[12:03] <Majd> redguy, thank you very much, it's applying the changes, i apreciate your help
[12:03] <redguy> Majd: there is propably no difference with the / partition as well, but I wanted to save you possible trouble
[12:03] <Blippe> nlogax, i added a line, made a hosts-file (it didn't exist, debootstrap didn't create one), and made the appropiate changes in  sudoers, and it works...we'll se what happens after a ubuntu-destop install
[12:03] <redguy> Majd: np
[12:03] <rukuartic> mzinz: Checking...
[12:03] <jman_wp> Did anyone have any trouble getting vmware installed?
[12:04] <Blippe> nlogax, yes, it did
[12:04] <opioyd> jaawood, no
[12:04] <nlogax> Blippe: nice work :-)
[12:04] <opioyd> opps
[12:04] <hurax> hi, so now to my problem: i can't get xorg to run. i'm using ubuntu 5.10 amd64, and have a k8nf4g mainboard with integrated nvidia chipset
[12:04] <rukuartic> mzinz: Heh... no clue. But "GKRellM" does a great job on that stuff ;)
[12:04] <Toki_Masa> I didn't see this on the Ubuntu site. Does it come with Sun Java or do I need to d/l Sun Java from the Sun site?
[12:04] <redguy> !java
[12:04] <gnomefreak> Hexidigital: here you go http://www.edubuntu.org/tour.html
[12:04] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:04] <jbritz22> anyone know how to disable the animations of minimaztation in ubuntu/gnome?
[12:04] <mzinz> rukuartic, better than gdesklets? cause i thought those looked hella ugly
[12:04] <barktpolar> Anyone know when the D.D. Disks are coming?
[12:05] <rumpledrev> barktpolar, June 1
[12:05] <gnomefreak> barktpolar: 6/06
[12:05] <redguy> barktpolar: with shipit you mean?
[12:05] <Toki_Masa> k. Thanks.
[12:05] <barktpolar> Yes redguy
[12:05] <hurax> i tried to search omething in google (with lynx) and it told me to use the proprietary drivers but i don't have them selected, can you use them at all in amd64?
[12:05] <NickGarvey> barktpolar: it takes a good chunk of time
[12:05] <NickGarvey> barktpolar: don't wait for it, expect it as a surprise some day
[12:05] <Hexidigital> thanks gnomefreak
[12:05] <rumpledrev> after June 1
[12:05] <rukuartic> mzinz: Its an ugly app, but ugly apps run very fast.
[12:05] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:05] <redguy> barktpolar: what NickGarvey said... :-)
[12:05] <barktpolar> True, It was a surprise for me to get my B.B. Disks
[12:06] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know I would properly add a line to fstab for an NFS directory?
[12:06] <Toki_Masa> Interesting. No 5.10 torrents. Is this normal?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> if released on june 1 they should be sending them out (maybe not to you) that date or june 2ndish
[12:06] <mzinz> rukuartic, therefore GKRellM is nicer/slower?
[12:06] <Toki_Masa> I found torrends for 5.04, but not 5.10.
[12:06] <rukuartic> mzinz: Its faster/ugly
[12:06] <Blippe> Kr4t05, yeah, wait a sec
[12:06] <rumpledrev> think about 5 weeks
[12:06] <_frank> gnomefreak: is June 1st the official release date now?
[12:06] <rukuartic> mzinz: but beauty is in the eye of the beholder ;0
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Toki_Masa: there used to be torrents
[12:06] <Toki_Masa> Just for 5.04...
[12:06] <mzinz> rukuartic, i want it to look as nice as his, hes got like transparencies etc
[12:06] <barktpolar> Have your looked in the downloads setcion of ubuntu
[12:06] <gnomefreak> _frank: i havent been here but the topic says it was annouved so yes
[12:06] <jbritz22> whats a good msn alternative for gnome besides gaim
[12:06] <rukuartic> Toki_Masa: They're comming out with a new version in just a few months
[12:07] <rukuartic> jbritz22: amsn
[12:07] <Toki_Masa> Yeah, so?
[12:07] <nlogax> mzinz: try Gkrellm2 with the Milk skin
[12:07] <jbritz22> ok
[12:07] <pramz> jbritz22, amsn
[12:07] <Toki_Masa> I can still get it now.
[12:07] <Toki_Masa> A few months is a long way away for me.
[12:07] <mzinz> nlogax, Milk skin in theme manager?
[12:07] <rukuartic> Toki_Masa: If you wait a bout a month or two you'll be able to get Dapper Drake, and thats the cool one :) But yeah if you can't wait, you can probably get a pretty fast download
[12:07] <rumpledrev> from http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/.......dapper created by bimberi on 22 Mar 2006 09:12
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[12:07] <rumpledrev> is BETA software. Release date is June 1 - http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq. /join
[12:07] <rumpledrev> #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[12:07] <mrt> !antivirus
[12:07] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mrt
[12:07] <rukuartic> !paste
[12:07] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:08] <rumpledrev> thnx
[12:08] <nlogax> mzinz: I think I had to google for it
[12:08] <mzinz> nlogax, ok, thanks
[12:08] <nlogax> mzinz: it's not transparent or anything though - maybe you want to look at adesklets or gdesklets?
[12:08] <Blippe> Kr4t05, servername:dir /mntpoint nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
[12:08] <redguy> clamav
[12:08] <redguy> darn
[12:08] <Toki_Masa> ~200KB per second.
[12:08] <mzinz> nlogax, whats the difference? gDesklets looked horrible to me..
[12:08] <barktpolar> Will cleaning a CD Drive help Ubuntu's Live Version Go faster?
[12:08] <Toki_Masa> Meh. I'll live with that, I guess.
[12:08] <Blippe> Kr4t05, don't forget to export the nfs on the server too!
[12:09] <nlogax> ok, adesklets are lighter weight than gdesklets (based on Python I think)
[12:09] <rukuartic> barktpolar: Possibly. LiveCD's in general are very slow
[12:09] <barktpolar> Yeah, But i thoguth it was going slower than ever
[12:09] <rumpledrev> barktpolar, don't use toothpaste :)
[12:09] <rukuartic> barktpolar: If you can make a small partition that it can use for scratch it'll make things go faster
[12:09] <barktpolar> How small?
[12:10] <Ads_> Can someone help? glxinfo says: Direct Rendering: No      << is that why I can't play games?
[12:10] <jgl> does anyone here have experiance with winesetuptk ?
[12:10] <jman_wp> Did anyone ever get vmware to work, last time I tried to install it, it wouldn't run?
[12:10] <rukuartic> barktpolar: Not sure :P
[12:10] <jadaz87> anyone know how i can hange the default maximum screen resolution that ubuntu has set for my screen?
[12:10] <bimberi> Ads_: what kind of video card do you have?
[12:10] <barktpolar> Anyone know?
[12:11] <loxety> barktpolar, know what?
[12:11] <Ads_> bimeri: it's a crappy integrated gfx chipsetp on my laptop by SiS however in windows I can play some basic games, like quake 2 etc but not un ubuntu
[12:11] <loxety> barktpolar, umm it could
[12:11] <Ads_> bimberi*
[12:11] <barktpolar> How to make a small partition for the Live CD to go faster
[12:11] <redguy> !tell mrt about antivirus
[12:11] <mzinz> Whats the difference between aDesklets and gDesklets?
[12:12] <simonpca> barktpolar: make a swap partition
[12:12] <barktpolar> How do I do that?
[12:12] <Hexidigital> !tell hexidigital about firefox
[12:12] <loxety> barktpolar, cant you just load it into ram?
[12:12] <bimberi> Ads_: kk, i'm not sure then, i was going to point you towards the binary-only drivers for ati or nvidia (if you'd said one of them)
[12:12] <barktpolar> My RAM is just in there
[12:12] <barktpolar> 128 MB
[12:13] <rumpledrev> ah, that
[12:13] <simonpca> barktpolar: using a software, like Qtparted
[12:13] <Ads_> bimberi: thanks anyway dude
[12:13] <jmorris> where is components directory for mozilla?
[12:13] <bimberi> Ads_: np :)
[12:13] <rumpledrev> more mem would be helpful
[12:13] <nlogax> mzinz: adesklets are not based on GTK and use less memory (also there are fewer adesklets available)...  they look much like each other though
[12:13] <loxety> barktpolar, get more ram ;)
[12:13] <barktpolar> Nope
[12:13] <barktpolar> Okay
[12:13] <Toki_Masa> So how much in Ubuntu must you do in the command line console?
[12:13] <mzinz> nlogax, so if im going for looks i probably want gDesklets
[12:13] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know when would be a good time to order ShipIt CDs if i want Dapper?
[12:13] <nlogax> mzinz: so if you don't like gdesklets you won't like adesklets
[12:13] <redguy> Toki_Masa: depends on what you want to do :-)
[12:13] <mzinz> nlogax, any clue how this guy got the apple-style bar? Hes in ubuntu: http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/images/contrib/louis_0.jpg
[12:14] <barktpolar> purplefeltangel: probably not till June 1
[12:14] <nlogax> mzinz: google for some screenshots of g & a Desklets
[12:14] <rumpledrev> purplefeltangel, and then add 5 weeks
[12:14] <Toki_Masa> Out of everything that you can possibly do, about what percentage can be done without the command line?
[12:14] <nlogax> mzinz: yes, that's a standard aDesklet I think
[12:14] <jmorris> hel;lo?
[12:14] <Hexidigital> 15 %?
[12:14] <barktpolar> Which is better, WinXP or Ubuntu?
[12:14] <mzinz> nlogax, ah.
[12:14] <nlogax> mzinz: I even set that up myself...  you have to hack the config file to make it all work
[12:14] <Hexidigital> barktpolar, depends on what you use your computer for
[12:14] <purplefeltangel> barktpolar and rumpledrew,  really?? :S i ordered CDs like, three days before Breezy was released, and I got my CDs 6 weeks later and it was Breezy
[12:15] <jgl> anyone here know winesetuptk?
[12:15] <simonpca> barktpolar: Ubuntu!
[12:15] <simonpca> of course :)
[12:15] <gnomefreak> who was looking for the 5.10 torrent?
[12:15] <barktpolar> Fun, Internet, Gaming, Making Signatures and Avatars
[12:15] <Hexidigital> barktpolar, i use my computer for college work, so ubuntu fits my needs... sometimes i play games like Civilization 4, which i have to boot into my winxp harddisk
[12:15] <rukuartic> Toki_Masa: Very little :)
[12:15] <mzinz> nlogax, i see
[12:15] <rukuartic> Toki_Masa: But using the console can make things go so much quicker than with a GUI
[12:15] <loxety> Toki_Masa, yeah not much
[12:16] <rukuartic> Toki_Masa: Infact, if you know how to use the terminal well, you can access your computer from anywhere in the world (like I do)
[12:16] <Hexidigital> barktpolar, i have to use winxp to print (drivers for my printer aren't available for linux)
[12:16] <mzinz> nlogax, i can't find milk theme anywhere, it seems to be down on the one site i found
[12:16] <gnomefreak> purplefeltangel: wait till late may early june seeing as they wont update the site till than anyway
[12:17] <jadaz87> anyone know how i can change the resolution of my screen manually? ubuntu is only letting me go up to 1024x768
[12:17] <loxety> what tool can I use to change my refresh on the fly?
[12:17] <mrt> i lost my xp auth code thats why im here
[12:17] <bimberi> !resolution
[12:17] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:17] <Hexidigital> jadaz87, what size screen do you use?
[12:17] <purplefeltangel> gnomefreak: are you sure??? :S:S:S:S:S:S:S that seems really strange . . . like i said, i ordered CDs 3 days before breezy was released and i still got breezy . . .
[12:17] <loxety> jadaz87,  you could go into the xorg.conf and change it there
[12:17] <DjMortal> #ubuntu-es
[12:17] <loxety> !resolution
[12:17] <gnomefreak> purplefeltangel: dapper wont be released till june 1
[12:18] <purplefeltangel> gnomefreak: seriously?
[12:18] <purplefeltangel> gnomefreak: i thought it was like, april
[12:18] <jadaz87> loxety is there a way to test the changes before they are made permenant in the xorg.conf?
[12:18] <loxety> bimberi, thanks!
[12:18] <jbritz22> will we be able to update dapper right over breezy?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> yes read the topic in ubuntu+1
[12:18] <rukuartic> gnomefreak: Is dapper still buggy enough its not worth using or no?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> purplefeltangel: it was delayed
[12:18] <barktpolar> As in installing it by disk...
[12:18] <jbritz22> ok
[12:18] <bimberi> loxety: np :)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> dapper talk #ubuntu+1 please
[12:18] <loxety> jadaz87, I think so but dont know first hand
[12:18] <purplefeltangel> gnomefreak: that is crap :[
[12:18] <barktpolar> Got it
[12:18] <jbritz22> Ok, so I got ubuntu installed, how do I install fluxbox now?
[12:18] <jadaz87> loxety oh ok thanks anyway
[12:19] <bimberi> yes, a "dist-upgrader" application to do it for you is being tested
[12:19] <jadaz87> jbritz22 sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:19] <barktpolar> jbritz22, try sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:19] <jbritz22> ok
[12:19] <loxety> jadaz87, just make a backup copy.. cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup or something like that
[12:19] <nlogax> mzinz: http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/
[12:19] <jbritz22> this wont cause any problems with gnome or ubuntu?
[12:19] <jbritz22> cause I installed KDE and it screwed my system up
[12:19] <barktpolar> Nope, not that I know of
[12:20] <jadaz87> loxety is there a list of standard resolutions somewhere?
[12:20] <mrt> whats sudo?
[12:20] <barktpolar> jbritz22, you needed kubuntu
[12:20] <rukuartic> jadaz87: For your monitor?
[12:20] <rukuartic> !sudo
[12:20] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:20] <nlogax> jbritz22: are you pretty comfortable with CLI? and editing text files?
[12:20] <loxety> jadaz87, check out !resolution
[12:20] <rukuartic> mrt: Sudo lets you use super user commands
[12:20] <Hexidigital> !root password
[12:20] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:21] <jmorris1> how do i get into the mozilla components directory?
[12:21] <jayg> 5hours messing about with ubuntu trying to get sound working, madness....
[12:21] <jbritz22> nlogax, why.....? do I need to if I want to install fluxbox?
[12:21] <loxety> jadaz87, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:21] <nlogax> jbritz22: not necessarily - you can use debian-menu to generate the Fluxbox menus
[12:21] <loxety> thanks again to bimberi
[12:21] <jadaz87> rukuartic yes like 800x600 1024x768 i do not know what they standard resolutions are after that
[12:21] <nlogax> jbritz22: but if you don't use that you build your menu as a text file
[12:21] <AngryElf> let's say, hypothetically i screwed up the UID on the one account I have on my box, so now i can't log in, or ssh in......it's ubuntu, so i can't directly log in as root, how on earth do i get into this box to fix this problem?
[12:22] <bimberi> loxety: and don't forget ubotu :P
[12:22] <jbritz22> nlogax, so apt-get install fluxbox woudnt work, id have to edit a bunch of stuff?
[12:22] <nlogax> AngryElf: reboot and use Recover mode
[12:22] <gnomefreak> jbritz22: think of fluxbox not having anything you start with very very clean de
[12:22] <loxety> jadaz87, like 1280x1024 and 1600x1280
[12:22] <jayg> anyone had problems with running audigy 4 in unbuntu, cos like hell i cant get it working, not even a beep
[12:22] <jadaz87> loxety i see what you are talking about now on tha page :-)
[12:22] <rukuartic> jadaz87: Oh, have you looked through wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StandardResolutions maybe
[12:22] <AngryElf> nlogax like the recover kernel option?
[12:22] <m0rbid> i've installed Ubuntu on my PowerBook G4 runs smoothly except for a few things. i've been trying to install pbbuttonsd and when i run ./configure it comes up with an error and says i need glib version greater than 2.0 so i went ahead and got the latest version of glib and while trying to compile it after i typed in ./configure it said i need to have gettext support in my C library or i can download it. so i went ahead and downloade
[12:22] <jmorris1> hello?
[12:22] <jadaz87> hold on going to restart X
[12:23] <rukuartic> hi jmorris1.
[12:23] <jmorris1> rukuartic ok was making sure this was working :)
[12:23] <nlogax> jbritz22: yes it should work.  make sure you install the package named menu
[12:23] <nlogax> AngryElf: yep choose that option
[12:23] <jbritz22> nlogax, what command would that be, apt-get install fluxbox....and?
[12:23] <jmorris1> rukuartic i installed flash and it said to have the system admin to delete a .dat file but i cant find it
[12:23] <nlogax> AngryElf: then either set a root passwd using the passwd command or fix your UID prob if you know how
[12:23] <jmorris1> i did a search for file but its not there
[12:24] <nlogax> jbritz22: sudo apt-get install fluxbox menu
[12:24] <jmorris1> did i do something wrong or should i just leave it the way it is
[12:24] <styllerone> yes
[12:24] <loxety> whats the tool thats included in gnome that lets you change rez and refresh.. its usually sitting in the lower left?
[12:25] <barktpolar> What's up styellerrone
[12:25] <Hexidigital> loxety, now it's in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[12:25] <styllerone> i'm cool man
[12:25] <jbritz22> nlogax, just do apt-get install fluxbox by itself first though
[12:25] <styllerone> excuse my english man
[12:25] <ubuntu_> what's up bitches?
[12:25] <jbritz22> nlogax, ?
[12:25] <jmorris1> so you have no clue either huh?
[12:25] <barktpolar> windows has too many bugs
[12:25] <styllerone> so it's the first time
[12:26] <nlogax> jbritz22: do them together like I put above
[12:26] <loxety> Hexidigital, any ideas to its name?
[12:26] <jayg> at least sound works in windows ;)
[12:26] <jbritz22> nlogax, ok
[12:26] <nlogax> jbritz22: you can put as many packages on the command line as you want
[12:26] <Hexidigital> loxety, i'm not sure... hang on, lemme see if i can find out
[12:26] <loxety> Hexidigital, I forgot what its called hehe
[12:26] <jbritz22> why does amsn keep popping up with "joins conversation"
[12:26] <Hexidigital> !screen resolution
[12:26] <ubotu> Hexidigital: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:27] <Hexidigital> loxety, no luck kiddo.. thought i'd be in the preferences part of the menu
[12:27] <m0rbid> what's the command to install developer tools??
[12:27] <tristanmike> !fixres
[12:27] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:27] <loxety> Hexidigital, thanks!
[12:27] <PuMpErNiCkEl> m0rbid: sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[12:27] <bimberi> m0rbid: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:27] <m0rbid> thanks
[12:28] <jvai> hey all, can i convert this hoary workstation into a server? i'm about to get anothr thinkpad, & i didnt want to *un*utilize the old 1(this 1)
[12:28] <styllerone> hello i would like to connact to msn using xchat, how ?
[12:28] <aidan> wuz up
[12:28] <Hexidigital> Stellerone, i dont know about XChat, but you can connect to MSN through Gaim
[12:29] <Hexidigital> Styllerone, i dont know about XChat, but you can connect to MSN through Gaim
[12:29] <bimberi> styllerone: i've not heard of xchat connecting to msn, yes use gaim
[12:30] <m0rbid> trying to install glib and while running 'configure' it comes up with an error saying "you must have either have gettext support in your C library, or use the GNU gettext library." is there any way to add gettext support to my C library??
[12:30] <jbritz22> nlogax, so I got that now, do I just restart and select fluxbox from the session manager?
[12:31] <Hexidigital> there are so many cool programs with ubuntu... most of which i will never use! :)
[12:31] <m0rbid> how do i add gettext support to my C library?
[12:32] <brenner> m0rbid: why not just install glib from the lrepos?  and have you installed build-essential ?
[12:32] <m0rbid> yes
[12:32] <m0rbid> just did
[12:32] <m0rbid> lrepos?
[12:32] <brenner> s/lrepos/repos
[12:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i verify if swap is working?
[12:32] <Toki_Masa> I'm about 50% done downloading Ubuntu. Is this something that I can install when doing other things or does it require me to baby sit it?
[12:33] <Hexidigital> Toki_masa, you only have to baby sit a little bit... overall , about a 25 minute install
[12:33] <IdleOne> Toki_Masa, mostly does everything on its own
[12:33] <Morfosomo> ho its just a main operating system install,. nothing too fancy really
[12:33] <tristanmike> Toki_Masa, depending on how fast your computer is, it may take as little as 20 minutes
[12:33] <IdleOne> you will need to set username and password and remove the cd when it tells you
[12:34] <nasso> does anyone know if there is any consolebased applications i can use to limit bandwidth?
[12:34] <Toki_Masa> So if I get up and leave, it will just wait for me at that step and everything?
[12:34] <IdleOne> yup
[12:34] <brenner> m0rbid: there are glib libraries in the ubuntu repositor.  why do the hard way of compiling it yourself?
[12:34] <Hexidigital> toki_masa, yes
[12:34] <jbritz22> nlogax, ?
[12:34] <nasso> i want to set my upload/download-speeds to a maximum
[12:34] <brenner> Toki_Masa: just make sure if you're on a laptop to run it on AC, not battery ;)
[12:34] <m0rbid> brenner: i'm a total noob at this. how would i go about installing them from the repositor?
[12:35] <Morfosomo> Toki_Masa, i havent seen an operating system install that dosent need you
[12:35] <marsh> hi all...
[12:35] <hurax> xorg runs with the vesa driver now
[12:35] <jbritz22> Ok, I installed fluxbox using apt-get install fluxbox menu do I just restart and select it from the sessions dropdown meu to run it?
[12:35] <Hexidigital> what does fluxbox do?
[12:35] <IdleOne> jbritz22, log out and slect fluxbox.
[12:35] <tristanmike> Toki_Masa, once the install starts, you can walk away until it wants you to reboot, then you reboot, and walk away again, but there is an inital setup, like set user name, password, location, where to install, but once it gets going you're good
[12:35] <IdleOne> !tell Hexidigital about fluxbox
[12:36] <bimberi> m0rbid: guessing a bit here, but there is a package called "gettext", you could try installing that
[12:36] <ladofnod> i cant seem to get mp4 video to play. which plugin is needed?
[12:36] <jbritz22> idleone,ok
[12:36] <Hexidigital> thanks Idleone
[12:36] <IdleOne> no problem
[12:36] <brenner> m0rbid: 1st of all, there seem to be 2 packages: glib 1.2 and glib 2.0.  do you know which one you want?
[12:36] <hurax> but gnome now won't start because i keep getting the messages of gnome-panel crashing, after which it reloads gnome-panel, which the crashes...
[12:36] <m0rbid> brenner: 2.0
[12:36] <marsh> Hexidigital, gets yr machine running a bit faster (it's lightweight - or was when i used it a while ago - makes loads of difference on a low spec machine...
[12:36] <brenner> m0rbid: sys >admin>synaptic
[12:37] <marsh> Hexidigital, but you gotta learn how to use it.... not too hard - but can be frustrating
[12:37] <m0rbid> brenner: thanks
[12:37] <Hexidigital> marsh, i guess i wont need it then... with 1.5 GB and 2.4 GHZ proc, it wont make much difference, will it?
[12:37] <brenner> m0rbid: click on search and type in glib
[12:37] <brenner> m0rbid: or if you're comfortable with cli.  just type sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0
[12:38] <IdleOne> Hexidigital, probably not much diff but you may want to try it just for a diff look and feel
[12:38] <Hexidigital> idleone, thanks... i'll check it out
[12:38] <IdleOne> !tell Hexidigital about xfce4
[12:38] <IdleOne> !tell Hexidigital about xfce
[12:38] <jbritz22> sweet its working
[12:38] <Hexidigital> that one worked
[12:38] <brenner> m0rbid: basically, before you try installing libraries from source (or anything for that matter), check if it's already in the ubuntu repositories.  it's a LOT easier
[12:38] <michele> gam_server is still eating 30% of my cpu, does anybody know how to fix?
[12:39] <juztin> how can i watch dvd's on my dvd-rom with ubuntu?
[12:39] <marsh> Hexidigital, yeah - it probably still will make a difference - esp if yr pushing yr machine - try it ;) - it's a bit of fun to get into - and it's much more customisable (if you like that sort of thing) - you can make keyboard shortcuts for absolutely everything....
[12:39] <m0rbid> brenner: wish i had known that a few days ago :/
[12:39] <IdleOne> !dvd
[12:39] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:39] <marsh> it's a good teacher too...
[12:39] <signalvsnoise> anyone here have experience with a matrox g450 and framebuffered virtual terminals?
[12:39] <brenner> m0rbid: is this your first distro?
[12:39] <m0rbid> brenner: yeah
[12:39] <cafuego> signalvsnoise: yes
[12:39] <Hexidigital> marsh, the frustrating part is deterring me :)
[12:39] <brenner> m0rbid: you'll get used to things :)
[12:40] <cafuego> signalvsnoise: I used to run my consoles in 1024x768 with matroxfb.
[12:40] <marsh> Hexidigital, frustrating is part of the learning process...
[12:40] <chade> I've a Geforce FX5550, any ideas on how to get dual monitors working?
[12:40] <Hexidigital> marsh, true true :)
[12:40] <marsh> Hexidigital, you noob?
[12:40] <Hexidigital> marsh, to computers, no.. to linux... sorta
[12:40] <Hexidigital> and do irc, yes
[12:40] <Hexidigital> :)
[12:40] <Hexidigital> to irc*
[12:41] <yamathan> Hey, uh, my panel now lacks a taskbar.
[12:41] <mwe> what does this mean in human language: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/installwatch.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored ?
[12:41] <yamathan> How can I fix that?  >_>;;
[12:41] <cafuego> signalvsnoise: You need to specify that you want to run matroxfb on the kernel line in grub's config.
[12:41] <marsh> Hexidigital,  I've been running linux for about 5 years & still havent got a box to work properly!!!
[12:41] <brenner> m0rbid: you might want to enable the optional repository places while you're doing this: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:41] <Hexidigital> lol
[12:41] <cafuego> mwe: Means installwatch is broken and checkinstall won't work.
[12:41] <juztin> !dvd
[12:41] <signalvsnoise> cafuego:  Did you ever get it to work with a different virtual terminal on each monitor?
[12:41] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:42] <brenner> yamathan: right-click on the panel > add to panel > notification area
[12:42] <cafuego> signalvsnoise: I never ran the console in dual-head mode.
[12:42] <jadaz87> hey rukuartic i directly configured the xorg.conf file and restart my computer but 1024 x 768 is still the highest resolution i can get when i go to System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[12:42] <mwe> cafuego: :|
[12:42] <marsh> Does anyone know if using dselect will remove dependant files when i uninstall an app?
[12:42] <cafuego> signalvsnoise: I just use 'screen', much easier :-)
[12:42] <Hexidigital> marsh, i lucked out with ubuntu.... i downloaded and installed it yesterday, then screwed it up with the firefox 1.5 installation instructions from the wiki site... so i reinstalled this morning, and right now i have everything wokring from my headset to my flash drive... ::knocks on wood::
[12:42] <IdleOne> !tell jadaz87 about fixres
[12:42] <jadaz87> idleone that is the problem i already did that
[12:43] <rukuartic> jadaz87: What graphics card are you using?
[12:43] <brenner> Hexidigital: did you try the ff1.5 install again?
[12:43] <rukuartic> jadaz87: Linux might not have a driver that works efficiently with your computer
[12:43] <Enthusiast78> Greetings! I'd like to get myself an old laptop for playing around with console applications only. What would be the very minimum requirements for a 'server' install that will only do irc, centericq, mp3blaster and perhaps links?
[12:43] <marsh> Hexidigital, - dvd codecs? avi movies? mp3?
[12:43] <Hexidigital> brenner, no... i'll wait until ubuntu releases it as an update
[12:43] <jadaz87> idleone the screen resolution is changed in the xorg.conf file but not when i go to System>Prefernece>screen resolution
[12:43] <signalvsnoise> cafuego:  the only documentation i can find for this sort of thing all seems horribly outdated
[12:43] <michele> juztin: kaffeine, totem, xine can play dvds. libdvdcss needed if encrypted
[12:43] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: A graphics card, MOBO, and a monitor
[12:43] <yamathan> brenner, this is KDE.
[12:43] <brenner> Hexidigital: it won't be, at least in breezy, iirc
[12:43] <Hexidigital> marsh, dvd works, tried it out before.. i dont use mp3's for anything... it's a school computer mostly
[12:43] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: You need nearly nothing
[12:43] <yamathan> And for some reason it's not showing up.
[12:43] <juztin> michele, thanks :)
[12:43] <michele> nop
[12:44] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: I mean how much RAM and CPU do I need?
[12:44] <brenner> yamathan: ah. well, there's #kubuntu
[12:44] <Hexidigital> brenner, i can wait... i only wanted to use it for some extensions, themes, etc
[12:44] <IdleOne> jadaz87, I think rukuartic can help you more then I could
[12:44] <chade> anyone? Dual monitors in Ubuntu?
[12:44] <matthew_w> So, I've been looking and looking, and WINE is just flat out unreliable.  Is there any other way to run windows apps on my linux box?
[12:44] <jadaz87> idleone rukuartic         Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 330M/340M/350M (RS200 IGP)
[12:44] <yamathan> Just a second.
[12:44] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Ram? I don't know. 32 mb maybe, processor... guessing 200 mhz?
[12:44] <marsh> <-needs help - wants to know if he can remove packages without leaving dependant 'bits' all over his system...
[12:44] <IdleOne> matthew_w, cedega
[12:44] <jadaz87> rukuartic which is a Radeon Mobility 9XXX
[12:45] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: I was thinking about something like that... Thanks for confirming my thoughts. :)
[12:45] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Can't run anything that will look cool though. You'll literally have nothing but a black window
[12:45] <marsh> Hexidigital, what you running it on?
[12:45] <chade> matthew_w: VMware
[12:45] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: That's the coolest thing I need. ;)
[12:45] <matthew_w> IdleOne; yeah, but it's my belief that if I have to pay for it, I might as well be using Windows.
[12:45] <Rubin> whats the umbrella package for doing development?
[12:45] <rukuartic> jadaz87: Looked around to see what you can find in wiki?
[12:45] <IdleOne> Enthusiast78, Im running a P2 233mhz whith 92 mb ram xubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Yeah... Ubuntu works great for that. I can even reccomend some programs for console
[12:45] <_jason> Rubin: build-essential
[12:45] <Hexidigital> marsh, p4 2.4g, 1.5gb ram, 180gb hdd, home made system... dvd drive, cd burner, basics
[12:45] <hope> hey room
[12:46] <mzinz> I have an icon on my desktop, how can i find the path to the icon graphic file?
[12:46] <IdleOne> matthew_w, yup thats the only draw back with cedega but it's a one time fee of $20 I believe
[12:46] <jadaz87> rukuartic what is the address for the wiki?
[12:46] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Like "NAIM" for AIM, "Irssi" for IRC, "mutt" for mail, and "w3m" or "lynx" for web browsing
[12:46] <jadaz87> rukuartic wiki.ubuntu.com?
[12:46] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: remember me?...well i have another question...im trying to enable repositories
[12:46] <rukuartic> jadaz87: eyp
[12:46] <rukuartic> !repositories
[12:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:46] <marsh> Hexidigital, 's what i'm just trying to install on now - i think the pIII-800 was too slow for dvd etc...
[12:46] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: when i try to install a program thing it says you must enable multiverse repositories
[12:46] <matthew_w> IdleOne; what about that VMware or w/e, also, doesn't that have a "subscription"
[12:46] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, follow that link just above
[12:46] <michele> mizinz: right click properties click icon
[12:46] <brenner> jadaz87: IdleOne sent you a wiki link. my guess is your monitor rates are wrong
[12:47] <nasso> is there any way to limit the total bandwidthusage for the whole ubuntusystem?
[12:47] <Enthusiast78> IdleOne, rukuartic: I won't even have Xorg installed. I'm thinking about irssi (using it right now) for IRC, CenterICQ for IM, mp3blaster for music and links2 for browsing...
[12:47] <rukuartic> nasso: How do you mean?
[12:47] <IdleOne> matthew_w, dont know about vmware
[12:47] <yamathan> Not to be rude, but why does epiphany kind of such?
[12:47] <yamathan> *suck, as it were.
[12:47] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: so i click okay, except it tries downloading files (i saw that link already, ill get to that in a minute) and i have no internet, and i cant get internet until multiverse repositories are enabled
[12:47] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: naim works great for AIM... :P console based
[12:47] <crimsun> yamathan: opinion? I prefer epiphany-browser to firefox
[12:47] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: so i use the guide on ubuntu.com....except i dont know how to save the changes
[12:47] <Hexidigital> marsh, i have an american civil war dvd that i had to watch for one of my college classes... i had to do the sudo apt-get install xine-ui or something similar, but everything works fine for me right now
[12:47] <b_e_n_z> yamathan, no it doesn't suck
[12:47] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: Do you mean... AOL Instant Messenger?
[12:47] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: If you want to change your TERM resolution, just add vga=XXX to your grub line
[12:48] <yamathan> crimsun, really?
[12:48] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Yep.
[12:48] <IdleOne> Enthusiast78,  like I said my box is old and slow and Im running xubuntu so if your going to do just a server install you should be good
[12:48] <yamathan> b_e_n_z, for me it's kind of slow.
[12:48] <crimsun> yamathan: yes, it does what I need it to.
[12:48] <JoeMorris> ubuntu cant cut the mustard
[12:48] <rukuartic> IdleOne: Does server install come on the 5.10 CD?
[12:48] <Hexidigital> marsh, i still have windoze installed on my secondary hard disk so i can print (printing is the only thing i can't do because no drivers for linux for my printer) and gaming, like civilization 4
[12:48] <na7e> anyone know a program for doing lightscribe work?
[12:48] <na7e> rukuartic, yes
[12:48] <rukuartic> JoeMorris: You're right. It can cut the concrete! :O
[12:48] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositorieshowto tells you how to do all that
[12:48] <JoeMorris> still too complicated :P
[12:48] <IdleOne> rukuartic, yup
[12:48] <na7e> rukuartic, at the boot: prompt just type server
[12:49] <JoeMorris> rukuartic:  It needs more work....... should be able to install automatically things without failing for instance
[12:49] <rukuartic> na7e: Thanks :P I shoulda done that before
[12:49] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: What do you recommend for M$N Mess-enger? I hate it, but just about everybody uses only that thing nowadays... :(
[12:49] <nasso> rukuartic, i have a server that runs a few bittorrentclients. i seed alot. i dont want it to consume all my bandwidth though because i need to do other stuff with my connection as well
[12:49] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: No clue...
[12:49] <marsh> Hexidigital, yeah - printing's another one - and accounting software to keep the books for my business... :(
[12:49] <mzinz> How can i get my home directory icon on my quicklaunch panel?
[12:49] <Enthusiast78> IdleOne: Thanks, man. I think I'll be just fine with an ol' Pentium with 32Mb then. :)
[12:49] <marsh> <- has to use windows... :(
[12:49] <marsh> and hates it!!
[12:49] <nasso> is there a was to limit the ul/dl speed for all instances of btdownloadcurses, for an example?
[12:49] <na7e> rukuartic, if you hit the function keys (f1, f2, f3, etc...) at the boot prompt you can see what boot options there are
[12:49] <rukuartic> That should be an option in your client nasso
[12:49] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: so i use the guide on ubuntu.com....except i dont know how to save the changes...and the guide doesnt say that
[12:49] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: I've heard CenterICQ has a plugin for M$N. I'll look for it...
[12:49] <rukuartic> na7e: Yea I know that...
[12:49] <JoeMorris> also linux needs to use stuff thats patented even though i agree patents ARE EVIL
[12:50] <na7e> rukuartic, ok, just checkin :)
[12:50] <Hexidigital> marsh, what kind of software do you use? can you create templates for openoffice ?
[12:50] <JoeMorris> i would have a hybrid, all open source patents but just license the patent stuff
[12:50] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne:
[12:50] <na7e> soooooooooooo, anyone know a lightscribe burner program for linux?
[12:50] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: oh wait nvmnd im talking about something else
[12:50] <IdleOne> Enthusiast78, only thing is I have seen alot of ppl complain abotu server installs  ( things not working like they should ) but if you are comfortable with fixing stuff go for it
[12:50] <marsh> Can anyone tell me about dselect/synaptic - I need some details?
[12:50] <rukuartic> JoeMorris: Not quite... Patents are needed in some circumstances, or we'd be working for nothing... nobody'd get paid.
[12:50] <nasso> rukuartic, yes. i can set an individual limit in every instance of the client i have running but i want to total limit for all instances
[12:50] <redouane> hello
[12:50] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: im talking about mounting floppy drives actually...in terminal i cant save the changes i make
[12:50] <Aven_> hey
[12:50] <marsh> hexi - no - havent tried....
[12:50] <Hexidigital> afk... need food
[12:50] <Aven_> how can I completly remove wine from my system?
[12:50] <JoeMorris> rukuartic:  things shouldnt be patented in an ideal world
[12:50] <rukuartic> nasso: I have no clue how you'd do that... its all client side.
[12:50] <redouane> hello man how are you to day ??
[12:50] <Hexidigital> marsh, what's that?
[12:50] <rukuartic> Aven_: sudo apt-get remove wine
[12:50] <marsh> why - can it do my books?
[12:51] <Aven_> rukuartic: yeah, doesn't really work
[12:51] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: you know how you told me about Penggy...well i used your sudo apt get code except it says penggy doesnt exist
[12:51] <Aven_> I delete the windows drive manually
[12:51] <marsh> Hexidigital, what? the synaptic?
[12:51] <rukuartic> Aven_: Did you install wine with apt-get?
[12:51] <redouane> if there is som body who can help me now plzzz
[12:51] <Aven_> now it does not create it again when I reinstall
[12:51] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, nope I dont sorry
[12:51] <nasso> rukuartic, ok, ill just keep on searching then :) thanks
[12:51] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: so those are my two main problems
[12:51] <Aven_> rukuartic: yes
[12:51] <_jason> redouane: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[12:51] <rukuartic> good luck nasso
[12:51] <Hexidigital> marsh, no, the template thing... you may be able to create templates in the OO version of excel
[12:51] <JoeMorris> rukuartic:  but with easyubuntu i think it enables the patent stuff right?
[12:51] <rukuartic> Aven_: dpgk -l | grep wine
[12:51] <Siddhartha211> Yo anyone?.....I tried installing penggy by using sudo -apt get penggy except it says that doesnt exist...same thing for mplayer
[12:51] <yamathan> Why are all of my repositories ass-backwards?
[12:51] <rukuartic> Aven_: Find the name and then get rid of it ;)
[12:52] <Aven_> you mean "dpkg" :P
[12:52] <Enthusiast78> IdleOne: Sure, no real problem. I actually have a good time fixing stuff... I think I can't pass a single day without fixing something in my car or my computer... :D
[12:52] <rukuartic> Aven_: Its probably something like wine-0.9.10-r3 or something
[12:52] <rukuartic> Aven_: Ype :P
[12:52] <yamathan> I haven't changed them since the last time I used Synaptic, but now it's screeching at me.
[12:52] <marsh> Hexidigital, but that doesnt run double entry & all the other stuff I have with wuickbooks
[12:52] <rukuartic> JoeMorris: Yep.
[12:52] <Aven_> so what does that command do?
[12:52] <jbritz22> can anyone help me with a problem im having in amsn?
[12:52] <yamathan> <NOT FOUND ON LIST>
[12:52] <marsh> *quickbooks
[12:52] <brenner> Siddhartha211: you need to enable universe for penggy
[12:52] <rukuartic> JoeMorris: Well it doesn't enable it, it downloads/installs it
[12:52] <redouane> i need a help in gsm unlocking plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:52] <Hexidigital> marsh, i see what you mean... afk for a couple minutes
[12:52] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, I think you should concentrate on the repos..follow the wiki step for step it is pretty much the easiest way and then move on to floppy mount
[12:52] <Aven_> redouane: hint: ask
[12:52] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: i have the tar.gz file of penggy....so i unpacked it...and then what do i do?
[12:53] <marsh> Hexidigital, afk??
[12:53] <brenner> Siddhartha211: and there are several  mplayer packages, none of them called just mplayer.  use search
[12:53] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: i DID do that but i dont know how to save my changes
[12:53] <rukuartic> redouane: putting lots of zzzzzz's in your request line wont' help. State your question fully, describe everything.
[12:53] <Hexidigital> marsh, away from keyboard
[12:53] <disposable> when i do "ssh -X -l user machine" and run xmms, i get "**CRITICAL"": Unable to open display    what do i need to do to overcome this?
[12:53] <marsh> cool...
[12:53] <redouane> ok i need a software to unlocking thomson tn 110
[12:53] <Siddhartha211> brenner: i did enable multiverse repositories is that what youre talking about?
[12:53] <marsh> enjoy, Hexidigital
[12:53] <Hexidigital> lunch tme
[12:53] <Hexidigital> time
[12:53] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, dpkg - i filename.deb in terminal
[12:53] <Enthusiast78> Hmmm... Ant suggestion for a particular 'classic' laptop brand/model?
[12:53] <jadaz87> brenner the problem is that the 'sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange' command does not work and i have a laptop and i do not know who makes the screen
[12:53] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: its a tar.gz file...
[12:54] <IdleOne> !tell Siddhartha211 about tar
[12:54] <nasso> rukuartic, maybe there is a way to limit the bandwith use on certain ports? :)
[12:54] <marsh> does plzzzzzzzz... work??? I need help with dselect/synaptic: how do i remove unused modules that were installed as dependents?
[12:54] <Siddhartha211> man tar
[12:54] <jbritz22> anyone know how to make it in AMSN so it doesnt open up a freaking chat window everytime someone "joins conversation"
[12:54] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, man tar in terminal
[12:54] <rukuartic> nasso: Might be on your firewall. Did you go to the client website and ask for help there? :P Might have more luck.
[12:54] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: i was sucessfully able to unpackage it...but what do i do after that?
[12:54] <ruggy> anyone here use the sprint ev-do access?
[12:55] <skizzot> when i load ubuntu i get a bunch of colored stripes and blotches
[12:55] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: ubotu is telling me how to unpackage it
[12:55] <Howdy125> Yeah .. use Kopete
[12:55] <marsh> how do i remove unused modules that were installed as dependents of installed packages???
[12:55] <rukuartic> disposable: ssh is a terminal emulator, no Xorg. You can't run XMMS over a ssh client.
[12:55] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, in terminal window you type : sudo apt-get install penggy and forget about that tar.gz file
[12:55] <brenner> jadaz87: i see.  run the reconfigure script.  when you get to the monitor config, you need to  at least choose the middle option in the menu (chooses the max res) iirc
[12:55] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: i did do that except it says penggy doesnt exist
[12:55] <rukuartic> disposable: You'd have better luck with VNC, but you won't get sound...
[12:55] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, but you ABSOLUTELY NEED to enable repos
[12:55] <skizzot> Howdy125 where you talking to me
[12:55] <Siddhartha211> IdleOne: and i did enable repositories
[12:56] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, apperently you didnt
[12:56] <brenner> Siddhartha211: you said multiverse, what about universe?
[12:56] <marsh> anyone???
[12:56] <rukuartic> Siddhartha211: Give us your repos list. :P
[12:56] <Siddhartha211> brenner: no i didnt enable universe how do i do that?
[12:56] <brenner> Siddhartha211: pastebin /etc/apt/soureces.list
[12:56] <Mabus06> What is the chmod number I should set my files in /var/www (to be viewed by others, at the moment users get a 'restricted access' message) I don't want my webserver to be able to be changed by users, as I often have my ssh port open and let others in. Any help?
[12:56] <_jason> Siddhartha211: take us to your repos
[12:56] <Siddhartha211> rukuartic: how do i do that...you mean list the Badger and all that
[12:56] <skizzot> when i load ubuntu i get a bunch of colored stripes and blotches can some help me
[12:56] <Siddhartha211> you mean list the Ubuntu Badger and all that?
[12:56] <rukuartic> Mabus06: 755, thats rwxr-xr-x
[12:56] <disposable> rukuartic: well, it works from one machine, just not from the other :)
[12:56] <marsh> anyone???
[12:57] <marsh> how do i remove unused modules that were installed as dependents of installed packages???
[12:57] <rukuartic> Mabus06: lets them read and execute (if necessary) for owner and group, but not others
[12:57] <Siddhartha211> _jason: you mean list Ubuntu Badeger 5.1 and all those kinds of stuff?
[12:57] <Siddhartha211> _jason: the stuff from synaptic
[12:57] <_jason> Siddhartha211: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and then copy and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , then give us a link
[12:57] <rukuartic> disposable: O-o;; what?
[12:57] <juztin> how do i install packages of type .deb ?
[12:57] <nasso> rukuartic, i use a hardware firewall,a router. not really a clientrelated problem. i just want to limit the bandwith for my entire server :)
[12:57] <brenner> juztin: what is it?
[12:57] <Siddhartha211> _jason: do i enter that thing in the terminal?
[12:57] <disposable> rukuartic: that's what the -X switch is for
[12:57] <kfirb> anyone can help with bchunk?? I may be using it for the wrong thing... I have two matching .cue and .bin files, and I want to convert them to one .iso file... any help?
[12:57] <juztin> brenner, libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubutu0_i386.deb
[12:58] <_jason> Siddhartha211: applications > accessories > terminal: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:58] <nasso> rukuartic, or like, give all bittorrentclinents 80kb/sec and the rest to apache :)
[12:58] <Chivas> can someone tell me where xinetd is started from ? i neet to add the -inetd_compat argument to it, but i dont know where its started from
[12:58] <brenner> juztin: sudo dpkg -i <debfile>
[12:58] <rukuartic> nasso: No clue mate...
[12:58] <nasso> guess i should change client instead so i dont need to have multiple clients ;)
[12:58] <juztin> brenner, thanks ;)
[12:58] <Enthusiast78> What's the command to change the system language... Again?! (PLEASE)
[12:58] <nasso> ok, thanks anyway
[12:58] <skizzot> when i load ubuntu i get a bunch of colored stripes and blotches can some help me
[12:59] <Aven_> gah
[12:59] <brenner> juztin: just remember to check if it's already in the repos.  that's why i asked
[12:59] <CarlFK> how can I boot the LiveCD to just a  prompt (no X)
[12:59] <ipfw> !source-o-matic
[12:59] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:59] <mzinz> I have an icon on my desktop, how can i find where the actual 'icon' is stored?
[12:59] <juztin> brenner, it's not...thats why i had to download it...but good lookin out :)
[12:59] <Chivas> carl_m:  linux 2      , at the prompt when it just boots
[12:59] <Aven_> wine keeps giving the following error when install a windows program:
[12:59] <Aven_> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[12:59] <Aven_> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.
[12:59] <rukuartic> mzinz: its /home/yourusername/Desktop
[12:59] <rukuartic> mzinz: If its a shortcut, you can type in "ls -la ~/Desktop" and it should come up with something like
[12:59] <mzinz> rukuartic, no i mean the graphical icon file
[12:59] <skizzot> when i load ubuntu i get a bunch of colored stripes and blotches can some help me
[12:59] <IdleOne> Aven_, what command is giving that error?
[12:59] <marky> Hey all
[01:00] <Aven_> IdleOne: 'wine'
[01:00] <rukuartic> mzinz: shortcut > /file/path/directory/lol
[01:00] <CarlFK> Chivas: thanks
[01:00] <rukuartic> mzinz: Oh the image you mean? Er... Right click and hit properties, that might tell you some stuff.
[01:00] <Joetheodd> !tell Aven_ about wine
[01:00] <IdleOne> Aven_, wine is a program.
[01:00] <rukuartic> IdleOne: Not an emulator :)
[01:00] <marky> lol
[01:00] <brenner> ubotu: tell skizzot about xorg
[01:00] <mzinz> rukuartic, nope :(
[01:00] <IdleOne> Aven_,  what command did you enter?
[01:01] <Aven_>  wine
[01:01] <IdleOne> rukuartic, lol
[01:01] <michele> mzinz: left click on the icon image in the properties windon
[01:01] <Aven_> wine ~/file.exe
[01:01] <michele> window
[01:01] <yamathan> Adept is taking a VERY long time to download all the headers.
[01:01] <rukuartic> mzinz: try looking to change the icon itself... (not in gnome, can't help too much)
[01:01] <jadaz87> brenner so after i do ctrl+alt+backspace and it comes up to the console how do i restart xserver?
[01:01] <yamathan> I wonder if there's something wrong.
[01:01] <Aven_> wine is the command :P
[01:01] <kbrooks> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4831374.stm: delay odf vista might be good for linux
[01:01] <rukuartic> yamathan: Thats cuz they're big.
[01:01] <Aven_> wine is the command for the program wine :p
[01:01] <rukuartic> kbrooks: A delay of anything windows is good for everyone.
[01:01] <IdleOne> Aven_, ok. wine program.exe to start/install the program
[01:01] <brenner> jadaz87: it should start gnome again automaticaly, if it doesn't, just login and type 'startx'
[01:01] <rukuartic> kbrooks: except security patches.
[01:01] <tristanmike> kbrooks, page not found
[01:02] <rukuartic> brenner: Unless he's using an unsupported gfx. card
[01:02] <jadaz87> ok
[01:02] <na7e> ok, there is NO lightscribe program for linux yet
[01:02] <na7e> to let everyone know
[01:02] <kbrooks> tristanmike, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4831374.stm repasting
[01:02] <Aven_> IdleOne: I did and that's the error it gave
[01:02] <marky> anybody cracked a wep code in ubuntu?
[01:02] <brenner> rukuartic: is it?
[01:02] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Oh yea, by the way--make sure you learn SCREEN
[01:02] <rukuartic> brenner: Don't know :P
[01:02] <na7e> marky, why bother?
[01:02] <Aven_> either way, I'm currently installing the updated version
[01:02] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Most useful commandline tool ever.
[01:03] <kfirb> how can I see the contents of a .bin image in ununtu ???
[01:03] <marky> wanted to see if my network is safe
[01:03] <tristanmike> kbrooks, thank you
[01:03] <marky> na7e just wondered if it was possible
[01:03] <IdleOne> Aven_, issue the command from the dir the .exe is in so if on Desktop cd Desktop first then do the wine command
[01:03] <rukuartic> marky: Where do you live?
[01:03] <marky> norfolk england
[01:03] <rukuartic> marky: What type of environment? Busy City? or quite residence
[01:03] <michele>  mzinz: /usr/share/icons
[01:03] <rukuartic> *quiet
[01:03] <marky> block of flats
[01:03] <na7e> marky, with WEP it's pretty much always possible, but unless you live in a city or dorm or something you really don't have to worry
[01:03] <mrt> where do i find nautillus to burn a cd? breezy 510
[01:03] <Aven_> IdleOne: ah
[01:04] <CryoTox> I can't get my webcam to work, everytime I run a program to use the cam My pc freezes and crashes. When I try to run /dev/video0 i get an error, any suggestions?
[01:04] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: Damn right! I LOOOOVE screen! I'm using it right now btw, it even fixes this non-English terminal so I can use irssi! :)
[01:04] <rukuartic> marky: What na7e said. Just turn off your broadcast flag, enable MAC filtering and thats all you can do...
[01:04] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Haha
[01:04] <Aven_> IdleOne: ah, works, thanks :)
[01:04] <marky> there are alot of networks and people with laptops, i already spotted a few foreign mac addy in the logs
[01:04] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: I <3 Screen.
[01:04] <Toki_Masa> Nice...my download is finished. So I just burn the ISO and then what?
[01:04] <CarlFK> Chivas: have you done this on the dapper live cd?
[01:04] <IdleOne> Aven_, no problem and from now on to run that same program it will be the same comand :)
[01:04] <marky> i got it mac locked
[01:04] <na7e> marky, ideally though WPA2 with the longest key possible (256 bit?) is for all intents and purposes impossible to crack.  They could crack it but it would take centuries, which would render the info useless.
[01:04] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Try looking for "naim" and "gamp" though, good programs. TOP's a good replacement for a system monitor.
[01:04] <kfirb> how can I see the contents of a .bin image in ununtu ???
[01:05] <jayg> anyone got any advice on how to get sound in breezy with audigy 4? before i just give up and go back to xp
[01:05] <Howdy125> CryoTox,  you using breazy ??
[01:05] <rukuartic> kfirb: Try "less yourfile.bin"
[01:05] <rukuartic> kfirb: Its nasty though
[01:05] <marky> the other day ki figured out a way  to beat mac locked routers
[01:05] <CryoTox> Howdy125: I am
[01:05] <na7e> marky, spoof the MAC
[01:05] <marky> i spoofed as a ap
[01:05] <marky> yup
[01:05] <na7e> marky, or poison their ARP table
[01:05] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: I think top was the very first UI program I ever used in Linux. I'll look for naim and gamps!
[01:05] <kfirb> rukuartic: it's supposed to be an image file of a CD
[01:05] <na7e> marky, I think that might work
[01:06] <Siddhartha211> _jason: im using the internet from a widnows computer.....im burning the saved sources.list to cd and bringing it to this computer
[01:06] <marky> then the laptop joined to this machine, then i changed this mac to the one found
[01:06] <Aven_> heh, a program said "not enough space for the directory" :P
[01:06] <mrt> where do i find nautillus to burn a cd? breezy
[01:06] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: You should be able to apt-get naim... don't know about "gamp". You need mpg123 for gamp though
[01:06] <Siddhartha211> _jason: you there?
[01:06] <na7e> marky, man in the middle attack at it's finest
[01:06] <Howdy125> CryoTox, That seems to be fixed in dapper ..
[01:06] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: Raxor-X in #ubuntuofftopic is a huge console person, me too :)
[01:06] <shrewduser> any idea why i can't get my resolution past 1024*768???
[01:06] <CryoTox> Howdy125: Thats out in what, June?
[01:06] <marky> i'm more worreid about people capturing packets and doing the wep code
[01:06] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: So gamp is a music player, huh?! Do you think it's better than this mp3blaster I'm using?
[01:07] <na7e> shrewduser, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:07] <rukuartic> Enthusiast78: I don't know, never used it. Moc's supposed to be good too (music on console)
[01:07] <brenner> ubotu: tell shrewduser about fixres
[01:07] <_jason> Siddhartha211: I am now
[01:07] <Siddhartha211> shrewduser: because your monitor is so low end its not compatible with higher resolutions
[01:07] <CryoTox> Howdy125: So I'm SOL until then?
[01:07] <Howdy125> CryoTox,  you can get it now it's just not the final ..
[01:07] <Siddhartha211> _jason: so hold up one second im getting the sources.list file
[01:07] <CryoTox> Bleh...
[01:07] <chrisbudden14> Has anyone been having trouble with their speech marks and apostrophes?
[01:07] <marky> how long does it take to crack a 128wep
[01:07] <_jason> Siddhartha211: np, take your time
[01:07] <CryoTox> Fsck
[01:07] <shrewduser> what are you talking about? low end.... it's a 21 inch trinitron
[01:07] <Cooner750> Why will Ubuntu not let me access hda2? It says I do not have permission to read
[01:07] <NickGarvey> marky: depends on how many people are on the network
[01:07] <jadaz87> brenner i tried your middle option and restart x went to Sys>PRef> Screen Res and i am still at 1024x768 as a maximum
[01:08] <na7e> marky, first, you can set up a program (it's either kismet or netstumbler) to pick up when people are sniffing packets (sounds impossible, but it works)
[01:08] <redguy> marky: depends on a lot of things
[01:08] <jayg> anyone got any audigy experience with breezy?
[01:08] <marky> there is 3 wireless laptops and 8 hardwired machines in my network
[01:08] <crimsun> jayg: sure
[01:08] <jayg> ahhh good lol
[01:08] <brenner> jadaz87: pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:08] <na7e> marky, i've hearn of it done in 10 minutes doing a variety of packet generation techniques
[01:08] <jayg> cos i been at it for about 6 hours, and still not a beep out of the speakers
[01:08] <brenner> shrewduser: see the wiki link ubotu sent you
[01:08] <rukuartic> marky: Far too long. Why are you so paranoid? :P
[01:08] <marky> :O holy crap 10 minutes
[01:08] <Siddhartha211> _jason: why is it so difficult to install things on ubuntu....they should make it plug and play for floppy disks and double click and install for programs
[01:09] <jayg> very close to giving up now, but i like ubuntu
[01:09] <rukuartic> Siddhartha211: Thats what apt-get's for :)
[01:09] <na7e> marky, yeah, it's pretty easy if you can generate the appropriate traffic
[01:09] <marky> because when i 'm downloading millions of packets must fly though the air
[01:09] <_jason> Siddhartha211: I think synaptic is easier than download from internet and double click on windows
[01:09] <shrewduser> brenner ubotu sent me nothing :(
[01:09] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, thats the windows way and we all know how well that works
[01:09] <marky> like 1 gig downloads
[01:09] <crimsun> jayg: pastebin the following: lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0
[01:09] <na7e> marky, your best bet is WPA2 with the highest encryption
[01:09] <Enthusiast78> rukuartic: Do you know of any console-related user group?
[01:09] <Chivas> what starts the xinetd ? i need to pass arguments to it
[01:09] <brenner> shrewduser: you're not registered/id'ed then.  here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:09] <jayg> pastebin? your talking to a major newbie here mate lol
[01:09] <_jason> Siddhartha211: do you have internet access on your ubuntu machine?
[01:09] <shrewduser> brenner: thanks...
[01:09] <Cooner750> anyone?
[01:10] <jayg> oh u mean paste that into terminal?
[01:10] <_jason> !pastebin
[01:10] <na7e> marky, it's more than just the number of packets, it's the type of packets thats important.  check out wpasupplicant for using wpa2 in ubuntu
[01:10] <Siddhartha211> _jason: no, thats why im enablign the repository stuff...so i can install penggy and get access to the internet from there
[01:10] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[01:10] <Toki_Masa> My ubuntu disk is finished.
[01:10] <Toki_Masa> So what do I do to install it?
[01:10] <marky> na7e ok thanks
[01:10] <cafuego> marky: If you're worried about security, you need to open the access point (speed) and run ipsec on that networks egment.
[01:10] <_jason> Siddhartha211: the repositories are online.  You won't be able to use them without access to the internet
[01:10] <jayg> what do i do with that tho?
[01:10] <brenner> Toki_Masa: put it in and reboot, making sure you enabled boot from CD
[01:10] <brenner> *in BIOS
[01:10] <Toki_Masa> Yeah, I boot from the CD first.
[01:10] <jayg> sorry for being a bit thick :)
[01:11] <mrt> where do i find nautillus to burn a cd? breezy
[01:11] <Toki_Masa> It goes CD, floppy, HDD I think. I know CD is first.
[01:11] <rukuartic> mrt: your question makes no sense man..
[01:11] <_jason> mrt: nautilus is the name of the file browser
[01:11] <me_> Can Anyone tell me where I need to go in ubuntu to configure which programs and daemons load at start?  I want to turn some of them off.  Is there a way to go this in the GUI?
[01:11] <rukuartic> me_: Try using sysvconfig
[01:11] <imc_> Anyone using EVDO with a verizon 5470 card? I;m having problems and wanna talk connect scripts
[01:12] <imc_> s/5470/5740
[01:12] <me_> rukuartic, that command does not work
[01:12] <AngryElf> is moving one users settings to another user's settings as simple as moving their home directory and reasigning ownership/permissions??
[01:12] <crimsun> jayg: execute that long command I gave you
[01:12] <marsh> There's a command to configure my drivers/graphics settings etc... Anyone know what it is??? I thought it was dpkg-something - but cant seem to find any references.
[01:12] <crimsun> jayg: take the output, paste it onto the pastebin Web site, then tell me the url
[01:13] <pirogoth> AngryElf:  Yes, I believe so.
[01:13] <brenner> ubotu: tell marsh about xorg
[01:13] <jayg> ohhhh i see now, ok give me a bit, really new to this :)
[01:13] <mrt> oh right click file
[01:13] <Enthusiast78> AngryElf: Make sure you also delete /tmp user stuff and ICE stuff...
[01:13] <marsh> thanks brenner
[01:13] <rukuartic> me_: you have to install it :p sudo apt-get install sysvconfig
[01:13] <jbritz22> whats the fastest webbrowser for linux, besides the text-only one?
[01:13] <rukuartic> me_: webmin works pretty well too if you like less of a console view
[01:14] <NickGarvey> jbritz22: I suggest dillo
[01:14] <fit4lfe> need help with vnc
[01:14] <Howdy125> jbritz22, IE in Wine .. second is Seamonkey ..
[01:14] <fit4lfe> somthing about wrong font path
[01:14] <Siddhartha211> _jason: im sticking in a total blank CDRW and it says "insert a cd with at least 1 mb of free space"
[01:14] <jbritz22> Seamonkey or Dillo....?
[01:14] <AngryElf> Enthusiast78, what is ICE stuff?
[01:14] <fit4lfe> can someone help
[01:15] <hav0k> hey, has anyone updated gDesklets to 35.3?
[01:15] <Hexidigital> do i have to add the -ui tag at the end to install the GUI for wine?
[01:15] <gideon_> Hi there folks, anyone have any familiarity with ussing vnc client to access a remote computer via ssh ?
[01:15] <AngryElf> Enthusiast78, and what's all that /tmp stuff, can i just delete it all
[01:15] <AngryElf> ??
[01:15] <Toki_Masa> I have a partitioned HDD with Windows on one partition and the other unformatted.
[01:15] <_jason> Siddhartha211: no idea about that, maybe someone else can help you there
[01:15] <Toki_Masa> Is it possible to lose anything in my Windows partition when I install Ubuntu?
[01:15] <jayg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1059
[01:15] <jayg> there we go, i think i did it right lol
[01:15] <Hexidigital> !wine
[01:15] <_jason> Toki_Masa: possible, but it won't happen if you don't tell it to
[01:15] <Xenguy> gideon_: there's a good 'x11vnc over ssh' HOWTO around somewhere
[01:15] <Toki_Masa> Should I back up my most recent documents and changes to a CD?
[01:16] <IdleOne> !teel Toki_Masa about dualboot
[01:16] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[01:16] <Toki_Masa> I am dualbooting.
[01:16] <jayg> its all a load of gobblygook to me :)
[01:16] <IdleOne> !tell Toki_Masa about dualboot
[01:16] <hav0k> Toki_Masa, i did that and didnt lose anything, but it's a good idea to back up stuff
[01:16] <Kr4t05> Toki_Masa, not if you use the right partition when you install.
[01:16] <gideon_> Toki_Masa: Im a newbie, but that answer is easy, BACKUP ! :)
[01:16] <fit4lfe> !vnc
[01:16] <ubotu> I heard vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[01:16] <Enthusiast78> AngryElf: ICE stuff are all those files/directories starting with .ICE in the user home directory.
[01:16] <ipfw> tightvnc rocks
[01:16] <hav0k> Toki_Masa, I dualboot too
[01:16] <Toki_Masa> OK...also, where do I tell my PC that I'm dualbooting? In Windows, Linux, or BIOS?
[01:16] <hav0k> though i havent used windows in months
[01:17] <fit4lfe> having trouble with tightvnc
[01:17] <hav0k> are you doing ubuntu?
[01:17] <fit4lfe> can you help
[01:17] <Toki_Masa> Me? Yes.
[01:17] <Enthusiast78> AngryElf: /tmp stuff can be deleted safely if the user is not logged in X and you delete only his stuff... Usually they can only delete their own stuff, anyway! ;)
[01:17] <Siddhartha211> _jason: great, now i wasted a perfectly good CD-R
[01:17] <hav0k> alright Toki_Masa, when you go into the installation, it will have you choose the partition
[01:17] <fit4lfe> can I show you the error
[01:17] <_jason> Siddhartha211: ?
[01:17] <gideon_> Xenguy: i have read a guide and i need some specific advice in the use of the client which is default in 10.5 badger, the gnome vnc client
[01:17] <jbritz22> is seamonkey faster than firefox, not just rendering pages....startup time and general use
[01:17] <Toki_Masa> OK. What formats can it save in and which one is recommended?
[01:17] <brenner> Toki_Masa: IdleOne has sent you a good link
[01:17] <Siddhartha211> _jason: because CD-RW didnt work, i had to waste a CD-R on one little text document
[01:18] <kbrooks> um, is thereea "how to sell ubuntu" thing? where sell doesnt mean money
[01:18] <Toki_Masa> Ah. I see. Thanks.
[01:18] <cyphase> what do you know..
[01:18] <Xenguy> gideon_: dunno, I use tightvncviewer here
[01:18] <_jason> Siddhartha211: you should get a usb key, they are useful for that sort of stuff
[01:18] <Siddhartha211> _jason: i posted it, my name is Siddhartha Gandhi
[01:18] <cyphase> MS is pushing back Vista to Jan 2007
[01:18] <hav0k> Toki_Masa, i use ext3
[01:18] <cyphase> the consumer version at least
[01:18] <cyphase> or so they say
[01:18] <kbrooks> cyphase, push backs are INSANE
[01:18] <boo_> hey
[01:18] <boo_> where can i configure GRUB
[01:18] <_jason> Siddhartha211: you are trying to enable multiverse, correct?
[01:18] <hav0k> Toki_Masa, i think you can use fat 32 maybe, but i dont know about that...
[01:19] <kbrooks> VISTA PUSH BACK TO 2007: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4831374.stm
[01:19] <IdleOne> !tell boo_ about grub
[01:19] <NeverDream> how can I start an xterm on display :1? I tried 'xterm -display :1' but it keeps telling me it's not open, but if I switch to tty8, I can see that X is started there...
[01:19] <chuckyp> boo_, /boot/grub/menu.1st
[01:19] <Toki_Masa> I heard some other good things about ext3. I guess I'll use that.
[01:19] <Siddhartha211> yes, and i want to also enable anything else that i will need in order to install penggy, mplayer, and any other program
[01:19] <cyphase> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4831374.stm
[01:19] <NeverDream> s/it's not open/it can't open it/'
[01:19] <gideon_> is that pretty easy to use? maybe i will install it now if you can give some assitance in connecting. basicly i was reading a guide but some of the fields didnt match what was described, so i didnt know what to put in. pretty generic questions really, maybe u might even know the answer already ?
[01:19] <hav0k> Toki_Masa, yeah, i think its the default they give you... i mean you can change it at installation, but id stick with it
[01:19] <chuckyp> Toki_Masa, you can use fat32 between windows and linux with out a problem.
[01:20] <hav0k> yeah
[01:20] <Toki_Masa> Windows is NTFS...
[01:20] <hav0k> i used it for my external
[01:20] <hav0k> yeah
[01:20] <Toki_Masa> But as long as I can read files from Windows into Linux, I'll be fine.
[01:20] <chuckyp> NeverDream, you want display 1 or workspace 1?
[01:20] <NeverDream> chuckyp, display :1
[01:20] <hav0k> yeah, you can do that with ext3
[01:20] <Siddhartha211> _jason: so...?
[01:20] <chuckyp> Toki_Masa, what is your ultimate goal?
[01:20] <chuckyp> Toki_Masa, to be able to write to the windows drive?
[01:21] <Toki_Masa> No.
[01:21] <NeverDream> chuckyp, I opened display 1, but it has nothing running on it, and I can switch to tty8 and see it
[01:21] <hav0k> ohhh, good
[01:21] <Toki_Masa> I just need to be able to read from it.
[01:21] <_jason> Siddhartha211: ok a few things: 1) in a terminal do: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' 2) delete lines 39 and 41 and save.  3) When taht is done, issue the command 'sudo apt-get update' in a terminal 4) I think you may have missed my comment above, to use the repositories you need your ubuntu computer to have internet access
[01:21] <chuckyp> Toki_Masa, to share data between the too?
[01:21] <NeverDream> I'm on display :0 right now
[01:21] <chuckyp> Toki_Masa, oh well you can read from anything.
[01:21] <boo_> Another thing, I had installed windows after ubuntu, so ubuntu was unbootable, so i install some boot loader, and it fucks everything up, cant boot anything. so i reinstall ubuntu, and go to the windows loader, but it wont boot =/  any suggestions on what to do?
[01:21] <Toki_Masa> Yeah.
[01:21] <hav0k> yeah, thats exactly how ive got mine set up... i can read from my windows
[01:21] <chuckyp> NeverDream, do you have a display 1?
[01:21] <NickGarvey> /close window
[01:21] <NeverDream> chuckyp, yeah, I can see it at least
[01:21] <NickGarvey> /window close
[01:21] <Toki_Masa> If anything, I'll just be copying files between the two for coding and testing purposes.
[01:21] <gideon_> vnc question: the guide i read refers to "sourse port" and "destination" but the client i am using, doesnt seem to have these fields, it does have "domain" and "client hostname" any idea?
[01:21] <NickGarvey> or not heh sorry about that
[01:21] <Hexidigital> anyone here know how to get into Gamespy lobbies using IRC?
[01:21] <Toki_Masa> I won't be writing to the Windows file from Linux or the Ubuntu file from Windows.
[01:21] <NeverDream> chuckyp, I did 'X :1' and it's visible on tty8
[01:22] <IdleOne> _jason, he need help compiling penggy AOL dialup utility thingy for linux
[01:22] <Siddhartha211> _jason: WHAAAAATT??????.....then my whole system is screwed over because i cant get internet access without penggy...and penggy is my internet
[01:22] <Siddhartha211> _jason: i meant AOL is my internet
[01:22] <_jason> Siddhartha211: one addition to the instructions for editing the file: remove all the single # from the start of lines that begin with the word ``deb''
[01:22] <NeverDream> chuckyp, when I try to open in xterm there, I get 'xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1'
[01:22] <chuckyp> Toki_Masa, well if you had your windows partition in fat32 and you can convert from ntfs from within xp.  Its part of the aministrative tools>disk management.  You would then be able to read and write to your windows drive from nix.  And there are applications which allow you to read your linux drive in windows.
[01:22] <Siddhartha211> _jason: and penggy requires repostiores stuff in order to install
[01:23] <Siddhartha211> _jason: i cant connect to the internet what do i do?
[01:23] <Kr4t05> Pardon my noobiness, but what does this mean: "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory?"
[01:23] <Siddhartha211> _jason: i have the tar.gz file of penggy...how do i install?
[01:23] <crimsun> jayg: the first thing you need to do now is execute ``sudo update-pciids'' in a Terminal
[01:23] <jadaz87> brenner http://pastebin.com/615340
[01:23] <jayg> ok thanks, i'll try to stay up :)
[01:23] <chuckyp> NeverDream, hrm... wouldnt' you need two instances of x running to have display 1 & 0?
[01:23] <_jason> Siddhartha211: you can get the deb package from packages.ubuntu.com.  You have to get the dependencies too
[01:24] <brenner> jadaz87: will brb. have to grab my charger
[01:24] <Siddhartha211> after extracting .tar.gz files, how do i install them?!!!!!!
[01:24] <michael> Kr4t05, it means you don't have those dependencies installed
[01:24] <jadaz87> oh ok
[01:24] <Hexidigital> anyone here connected through a USB cable modem?
[01:24] <chuckyp> NeverDream, I dunno perhaps some one else will no more.
[01:24] <kfirb> hi there all, is there a normal way to watch a cd-iso which is .bin/.cue file under ununtu ?
[01:24] <chuckyp> !tell Hexidigital about anyone
[01:24] <IdleOne> Kr4t05, apt-cache search libstdc++ and install the one with -dev
[01:24] <occ|quad> does anybody know of a program to mount virtual cd's in linux (iso's)?
[01:24] <Hexidigital> thanks chuckyp
[01:24] <jayg> crimson: ok done
[01:24] <Healot> ambit cable modem?
[01:24] <chuckyp> kfirb, what do you mean watch an iso?  its not a media file
[01:24] <jadaz87> !tell kfirb about vlc
[01:24] <crimsun> jayg: now re-pastebin
[01:24] <Siddhartha211> _jason: to enable a floppy drive, i have to go into some thing and delete some stuff and add some stuff....once im dont with all that (in terminal) how do i save?
[01:24] <_jason> Siddhartha211: I am going to give you some commands, I want you to tell me what they say.  Ready?
[01:24] <jayg> of what it downloaded in the terminal?
[01:25] <crimsun> jayg: no, that long command
[01:25] <_jason> Siddhartha211: I don't know anything about floppies.  Let's get you penggy first
[01:25] <chuckyp> Siddhartha211, what editor are you using?
[01:25] <jayg> ohhh got you
[01:25] <jayg> ok
[01:25] <hav0k> i downloaded gDesklets-0.35.3.tar.bz2 and i want to know how to install it.
[01:25] <Hexidigital> can i connect through my USB linksys cable modem?
[01:25] <Siddhartha211> chuckyp: im using default Terminal as my editor
[01:25] <Siddhartha211> _jason: ready
[01:25] <marsh> brenner - mind if i ask you a couple of questions?
[01:25] <bimberi> !tell occ|quad about mountiso
[01:25] <crimsun> hav0k: do the repo's gdesklets not suffice?
[01:25] <chuckyp> Siddhartha211, well thats a trick
[01:25] <thugren> Hey
[01:25] <mzinz> I've got an icon on my desktop/menu... Where can i find the image for the icon?
[01:25] <IdleOne> hav0k, sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[01:26] <carsonc> Is there any reason why X would ignore my .Xdefaults file?  All I'm trying to do is set the XTerm*background resource to black instead of the default white
[01:26] <hav0k> crimsun, well, they came out with a newer one than i have
[01:26] <_jason> Siddhartha211: apt-cache policy guile-1.6-libs | grep -i InInstalled
[01:26] <thugren> So how is everyone doing?
[01:26] <boo_> !tell boo_ about screen resolution
[01:26] <Hexidigital> !desklets
[01:26] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hexidigital
[01:26] <crimsun> hav0k: then you need to ``sudo apt-get build-dep gdesklets''
[01:26] <rukuartic> carsonc: you could just alias xterm to "xterm -fg white -bg black
[01:26] <boo_> =/ whats the help thing for screen res.
[01:26] <_jason> Siddhartha211: that's a typo... try: apt-cache policy guile-1.6-libs | grep -i Installed
[01:26] <Hexidigital> !fixres
[01:26] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:26] <jbritz22> !gamma
[01:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jbritz22
[01:26] <gideon_> can anyone give advice on establishinng a vnc connection via ssh? i have the server configured and could use some help on the client end.
[01:26] <brenner> marsh: sure
[01:26] <Hexidigital> !tell boo_ about fixres
[01:26] <jayg> crimson: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10600
[01:26] <carsonc> rukuartic: Yeah, that's true, but if X isn't checking the resource file, that's just weird
[01:26] <jayg> ok thats it i think
[01:27] <hav0k> crimsun, it says it was Unable to find a source package for gdesklets
[01:27] <jbritz22> anyone have any small gamma djustment uts for ubuntu?
[01:27] <jayg> yep positive
[01:27] <cafuego> gideon_: ssh -C -X vncserver-host; vncviewer :SERVERNUM
[01:27] <AngryElf> hey all, when starting up Xsession i keep getting this error: unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory: permission denied
[01:27] <Hexidigital> !usb cable modem
[01:27] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hexidigital
[01:27] <chade> I'm attempting to set up dual monitors, and I'm editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf  how do i figure out what the Identifier of my second screen should be?
[01:27] <Siddhartha211> _jason: one moment
[01:27] <crimsun> hav0k: so enable the deb-src repos
[01:27] <kfirb> chuckyp:  my problem is that I would like to browse it's files...
[01:27] <hav0k> and when i do apt-get install gdesklets, it says i have the news version
[01:27] <nickrud> jbritz22, xgamma
[01:27] <jayg> god knows how you understand all this stuff lol
[01:27] <NeverDream> aha, I got it
[01:27] <NeverDream> :)
[01:27] <crimsun> hav0k: not to mention that gdesklets is in universe, so universe has to be enabled
[01:27] <jbritz22> nickrud, how do I use xgamma?
[01:28] <jbritz22> nickrud, does it have a gui?
[01:28] <Croperz> !tell Croperz how to pleasure a woman
[01:28] <hav0k> crimsun, im pretty sure i have all the repos enabled
[01:28] <kfirb> jadaz87: I would like to convert it maybe to .iso in order to mount it afterwards... this is what I meant by watch
[01:28] <Hexidigital> Croperz, you need some help there?
[01:28] <nickrud> jbritz22, on the command line , xgamma #  1.0 is no convert, + is brighter
[01:28] <AngryElf> could somebody tell me what the default home directory permissions are??
[01:28] <gideon_> cafuego: thxs. im really newbie, would u be willing to elaborate on ur command line advice ?
[01:28] <hav0k> ive got universe and multiverse
[01:29] <cafuego> gideon_: it logs you in to the box that runs vncserver with X forwarding enabled, so if you run vncviewer there, it will display in X as per usual, tunneled securely through ssh.
[01:29] <Croperz> Hexidigital: ubotu seems to think it is taboo, so i'll leave it there
[01:29] <Healot> jbritz22, you can configure xgamma using "kgamma" in KDE
[01:29] <kfirb> what's the linux equivalent of something like isobuster ?
[01:29] <Hexidigital> lol croperz
[01:29] <Croperz> mount
[01:30] <mzinz> how do i display ONLY folders inside a directory, for instance, if i want to only see what folders are in my /usr/bin/
[01:30] <nickrud> jbritz22, and there's a simple gtk2 python app on the web called gammapage
[01:30] <Croperz> oh, cancel that
[01:30] <Xenguy> mzinz: at a command prompt?
[01:30] <mzinz> Xenguy, yeah
[01:30] <jbritz22> nickrud, sweet
[01:30] <Xenguy> mzinz: ls -d */
[01:30] <jbritz22> nickrud, thanks
[01:30] <Xenguy> mzinz: might work
[01:30] <mzinz> Xenguy, thanks
[01:30] <juztin> when i try to play a dvd in totem, i'm getting this: Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab   any ideas?
[01:31] <Xenguy> mzinz: yw (there are different ways to do it I think)
[01:31] <crimsun> jayg: your soundcard wasn't supported until extremely recently, as in March 6th
[01:31] <yamathan> Why do so many people install x64 versions if so many third-party repositories only support x32?
[01:31] <nickrud> jbritz22, the simplest fix is to use xgamma to find what you want, then add the line Option "Gamma" value in the monitor section of xorg.conf to make it permanent
[01:31] <jayg> ahaaaa so cant do anything about it yet?
[01:31] <brenner> AngryElf: mine is drwxr-xr-x
[01:31] <AngryElf> brenner, what about ownership?
[01:31] <Hexidigital> anyone know where i can find drivers for my USB cable modem?  i'd rather get rid of Ethernet if possible
[01:31] <Siddhartha211> _jason: im having problems entering the code...its like cannot recognize...hold up
[01:31] <yamathan> *versions = Ubuntu
[01:32] <cafuego> Hexidigital: Are you insane?
[01:32] <brenner> AngryElf: for /home/justin ls -l shows  'justin justin'
[01:32] <yamathan> What third-party respositories support x64?
[01:32] <crimsun> jayg: you can compile alsa-driver cvs manually, or you can try current dapper
[01:32] <cafuego> Hexidigital: You're far better off using ethernet.
[01:32] <Hexidigital> cafuego, my USB connects at 10MBS, and there's no firewall... with ethernet, i have my router, and can't host my webpage
[01:32] <_jason> Siddhartha211: hold on I have a better one that will save us some time: apt-cache policy debconf guile-1.6-libs libc6 libguile-ltdl-1 libqthreads-12 | grep -B 1 none
[01:32] <mzinz> Xenguy, if im installing a regular program (a calendar app), is it wise to just throw the entire untarred folder into /usr/bin/?
[01:32] <mzinz> Xenguy, then make a ls -l in /usr/local/bin/?
[01:32] <jayg> crimsun: going way over my head there mate lol, but tried dapper live, never had sound with that either
[01:33] <cafuego> Hexidigital: Surely the router cna be told to forward all traffic to the Linux box.
[01:33] <Xenguy> mzinz: no...
[01:33] <gideon_> cafuego: thxs. again, my understanding of all this is very thin. i was following a guide which described a diferent host, so i have pieces of info but i really dont know where to plug it all in cause things look difernt in the client i am looking at compared with what was described in the guide.
[01:33] <mzinz> Xenguy, where would be a good place to put the folder with the app in it?
[01:33] <Hexidigital> cafuego, i'm not sure how to configure my router
[01:33] <AngryElf> brenner, thanx
[01:33] <cafuego> Hexidigital: when you use USB, all processing for data will need to be done in software, it will use the cpu; ethernet avoids this.
[01:33] <Xenguy> mzinz: stuff that isn't packaged should go to either /usr/local/ or /opt...
[01:33] <Hexidigital> cafuego, i guess i didnt think about that
[01:33] <mzinz> Xenguy, i see.
[01:34] <Xenguy> mzinz: also you should consider using 'checkinstall' if a compile is necessary
[01:34] <crimsun> jayg: dapper flight 5 wouldn't have supported it, since the patch I submitted wasn't available in our kernel until yesterday
[01:34] <cafuego> Hexidigital: Its interface will probably have an option called 'Port Forwarding'.
[01:34] <gideon_> cafuego: i think i MIGHT have the sever configured correctly but im not quite sure how to connect
[01:34] <Xenguy> !checkinstall
[01:34] <ubotu> hmm... checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:34] <crimsun> jayg: hence the need for "current" dapper
[01:34] <IdleOne> Hexidigital,  your better off with router
[01:34] <mzinz> Xenguy, thanks
[01:34] <Hexidigital> idleone, cafuego, thanks guys
[01:34] <IdleOne> Hexidigital,
[01:34] <Xenguy> mzinz: yw
[01:34] <jayg> crimsun: if i download new dapper, it *should* work?
[01:34] <Hexidigital> yes?
[01:35] <IdleOne> Hexidigital,  it could be called either port forwarding or vitrtual server
[01:35] <Xenguy> mzinz: BTW what is the app?
[01:35] <Siddhartha211> _jason: one second
[01:35] <_jason> Siddhartha211: 1 :)
[01:35] <Hexidigital> idleone, www.portforward.com is a good resource
[01:35] <crimsun> jayg: try a current live cd: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:35] <cafuego> Hexidigital: You should be able to tell it to forward incoming traffic to the IP address of your Linux box.
[01:35] <fit4lfe> ipfw you there
[01:35] <mzinz> Xenguy, its called Sunbird.. its by mozilla, a calendar app
[01:35] <IdleOne> Hexidigital,  yeah I guess so never checked it out but if it helps you go for it :)
[01:35] <Hexidigital> cafuego, that wont interfere with my other machines?
[01:35] <jayg> ok thanks, defiately try it as i really dont want to go back to windows now ive used ubuntu :)
[01:36] <jayg> all your help is appriciated :)
[01:36] <cafuego> Hexidigital: Nope
[01:36] <Hexidigital> cafuego, idleone, thanks again... gotta run
[01:36] <cafuego> Hexidigital: If you're just after hosting web stuff, only forward tcp port 80.
[01:36] <IdleOne> no problem
[01:36] <Xenguy> mzinz: I see
[01:36] <boo> thx for monitor help.
[01:37] <Siddhartha211> _jason: "command line option 1 [from -12]  is unknown
[01:37] <boo> is anyone here knowledgable about how i can "fix" a windows boot.ini from within linux?
[01:38] <Siddhartha211> _jason: this is getting really annoying i think im going to switch back to windows 98
[01:38] <_jason> Siddhartha211: you copied wrong
[01:38] <Zarephath> boo: Open it in a text editor and change what you need to change?
[01:38] <boo> I dont think anything is wrong with the file, i just think GRUB is looking in the wrong place.
[01:38] <Siddhartha211> _jason: based on the error any idea what i messed up on
[01:38] <_jason> Siddhartha211: libqthreads-12 has no spaces
[01:38] <imc_>  Hi, having EVDO with Verizon 5740 card problems and wanna talk connect scripts
[01:38] <boo> i can change a NTFS file from in linux? I was under the impression linux OSs cant modify NTFS file system files
[01:38] <Zarephath> boo: You need to edit grub.conf..can you paste it to pastebin?
[01:38] <gideon_> Folks, i hope u dont mind, i have this here vnc over ssh question and im just going to throw it out there and if somone has any suggestions, that would be great.  im not sure what should go into the domain, and client hostname fields.  Is this the same as Source Port and Destination?  Is Protocol file=my private key file? PLZ and thxs !
[01:39] <Zarephath> !tell boo about pastebin
[01:39] <Zarephath> ! tell gideon about ssh
[01:39] <ubotu> Zarephath: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:39] <Zarephath> ! tell gideon about openssh
[01:39] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Zarephath
[01:39] <Zarephath> ! tell gideon about openssh-server
[01:39] <ubotu> Zarephath: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:40] <_jason> Zarephath: no space after !
[01:40] <jayg> crimson: if the daily live-cd works ok with the soundcard, what do i do then, as breeezy is installed on harddrive at the moment
[01:40] <boo> where is grub.conf?
[01:40] <Zarephath> _jason: sorry
[01:40] <IdleOne> Zarephath, lol and stop fishing :P
[01:40] <Healot> boo, by using the default drivers, it only allows you too read NTFS partitions
[01:40] <Zarephath> boot /boot/grub/grub.conf
[01:40] <gideon_> i have ready something about the openssh. i already have ssh configured on the host system.
[01:41] <boo> Well are there modified drivers I can use?  I think I'll cry if i cant play CSS :(
[01:41] <AngryElf> when you ls -l what does the 2nd column stand for...........the column after perms but before ownership
[01:41] <Zarephath> gideon: If you look on the wiki and look up ssh it has a ssh over vnc HOWTO
[01:41] <brenner> it's acutally /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:41] <Siddhartha211> _jason: it just gives me a buch of errors
[01:41] <Siddhartha211> cannot get this or that
[01:41] <brenner> ...there is no grub.conf
[01:41] <Frogzoo> boo: -> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:41] <gideon_> Zarephath: ok thxs. ill go back to that and try from there.
[01:41] <Siddhartha211> I HATE UBUNTU....I CANT GET INTERNET TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:42] <brenner> boo: what exactly happens when you try to boot windows
[01:42] <_jason> Siddhartha211: do any of them say: Installed: (none) ?
[01:42] <IdleOne> Siddhartha211, its not ubuntu thats the problem
[01:42] <jayg> i had to buy a soundcard that ubuntu hates didnt i lol
[01:42] <yamathan> !chroot
[01:42] <ubotu> I heard chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:42] <Healot> you are now, Siddhartha211, Aum
[01:42] <Xenguy> Siddhartha211: is that a request to be /ignored ?
[01:42] <brenner> Xenguy: it is for me
[01:42] <yamathan> !w32codec
[01:42] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:42] <Xenguy> brenner: ahh
[01:42] <Siddhartha211> _jason: nope  non
[01:42] <jayg> apart from audio prob, ubuntu is a sweet OS :)
[01:43] <IdleOne> Xenguy, he is having a hard time installing a tar.gz of penggy and cant get it from repos has he has no internet
[01:43] <jbritz22> is there an itunes alternative for linux?
[01:43] <boo> K, I installed a test vers of vista on a part, so it installed its own boot loader similar to the winxp one. from that loader, you can go to the normal xp loader.  when i select windows from Grub, it goes to the vista one which says something about a file missing if i boot vista, if i go to xp, it says the same thing.
[01:43] <Healot> in fact, a lot... jbritz22
[01:43] <fsmw> hi all, i can't remove a postfix packages
[01:43] <Healot> amarok (KDE) can do that...
[01:43] <crimsun> jbritz22: no, but you can use sharpmusique
[01:43] <crimsun> jbritz22: (or pymusique)
[01:43] <fsmw> apt-get remove postfix
[01:44] <boo> im hoping i can point grub to one of my windows boot.inis so i can boot to windows.  i can fix it if i can get into windows.
[01:44] <fsmw> give me an error
[01:44] <Siddhartha211> _jason: what should i do?
[01:44] <brenner> boo: so you have vista, xp and ubuntu all on the same box?
[01:44] <jbritz22> crimsun, ok
[01:44] <Kr4t05> Ok
[01:44] <jbritz22> Healot, and these are?
[01:44] <boo> vista, XPx2 and ubuntu
[01:44] <_jason> Siddhartha211: ok you are doing something wrong.  I'm going to explain to you what you have to do.  Go to this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/penggy .  For each red circle you see, (let's take the first one that says ``debconf'' as an example) you type: apt-cache policy debconf.  If it says ``Installed: (none)'' in the output, that means you don't have it.  Write it down on a piece of paper when that happens.  Tell me when 
[01:44] <boo> quad-boot i guess
[01:44] <Healot> nothing, jbritz22, forget what I said
[01:44] <tarheel> vista  the betas are overinflated with junk
[01:45] <jayg> crimsun: if the current *daily* live cd works with soundcard, just install the latest daily dapper then?
[01:45] <tarheel> i can only imagine what the final version
[01:45] <Zarephath> boo: You don't point it to a boot.ini file...it only knows the partion to boot from when selected...so if you see (hd0,0) listed in menu.lst then this is pointed to hard drive 1 partition 1
[01:45] <brenner> boo: what i would do is restore the mbr using the windows cd, then re-install grub
[01:45] <madewokherd> _jason: your message looks cut off after "Tell me when"
[01:45] <crimsun> jayg: well, that depends if you want to run dapper.
[01:45] <Kr4t05> So, I'm installing this program and it calls for libstdc++. I've installed every dev package for it and it still won't work.
[01:45] <jayg> i dont know, do i? lol
[01:45] <maria> hi guys, when i try to install mplayer from synapitc, im getting this error,... Package mplayer-386 has no available version, but exists in the database.
[01:45] <_jason> Siddhartha211: Tell me when you have checked all the red circles
[01:45] <boo> brenner, i had installed a custom bootloader from cnet, and everything got fucked up thru that.
[01:45] <_jason> madewokherd: thanks
[01:45] <jayg> if it works, hell yeh
[01:45] <Zarephath> boo: If it were (hd1,0) then it would be hard drive 2 partition 1
[01:45] <crimsun> jayg: keep in mind that it's still in development (until 1 june)
[01:45] <brenner> boo: custom bootloader? >_>
[01:46] <jayg> well its got to be better than it is now, i got no sound at all :)
[01:46] <Healot> maria, its "mplayer-586", not "mplayer-386"
[01:46] <boo> i know i forgot about GRUB, its been a while since ive used linux >_<
[01:46] <jayg> and im good at crashing things, so may be able to contribute ;)
[01:46] <Siddhartha211> _jason: sorry man but this is taking too long....im going to uninstall linux...use windows...and go back to linux when i get DSL and i have a internet connection thats automatic
[01:46] <maria> Healot: thanks, whats the difference between 386, 586, 686, etc?
[01:46] <boo>  have ubuntu on disk 1, part 1,  vista on disk 0, part 1, and xp on disk 0, part 0 and disk 1, part 0
[01:46] <yamathan> I wish I didn't need to chroot things. ;_;
[01:46] <mzinz> Whats the command to open up my home directory?  Just like clicking the home icon?
[01:46] <nalioth> Seveas: you about?
[01:47] <_jason> Siddhartha211: ok your choice.  You would probabyl be done in less than half an hour to be honest
[01:47] <jayg> crimsun: and 1st of june, isnt that far away :)
[01:47] <Healot> the processor that it targets to run onto... maria
[01:47] <nickrud> Kr4t05, try libstdc++5 (the most common one needed) or libstdc++5-def if you're compiling
[01:47] <maria> Healot: Package mplayer-586 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:47] <themachine> is it better to use ftp rather than nfs?
[01:47] <boo> So do i need to edit the menu.lst file to say 1,0 instead of 0,0?
[01:47] <Zarephath> mzinz: cd ~/
[01:47] <nickrud> Kr4t05, libstdc++5-dev I mean
[01:47] <Siddhartha211> _jason: yea i know but its getting really annoying copying command stuff on paper and hoping i get all the spaces and dashes correct when i recopy it on the other computer
[01:47] <nalioth> themachine: they serve two different purposes
[01:47] <brenner> boo: pastebin it
[01:47] <boo> I think the vista loader is on the windows part. though, this is extremely fucked up.
[01:47] <boo> k
[01:48] <themachine> well simply for files that is
[01:48] <_jason> Siddhartha211: well you can copy it using notepad to a text file and then burn it on your disc
[01:48] <Siddhartha211> _jason: is there some kind of autoscript that will enable repos for me...and multiuniverse
[01:48] <Samhain> most of the time when I reboot, ubuntu starts up in 640x480. I have to reboot 3 or 4 times for it to allow me to use a higher res.
[01:48] <Eroick> I cant get  PHP to work on ubuntu! I followed directions in wiki but still, no dice!!! It asks me to download the file each time i try to get a php file on my server!
[01:48] <Healot> maria, try to use "sudo apt-get install mplayer", lets see all the candidates available for mplayer
[01:48] <Kr4t05> nickrud: I'm in Dapper
[01:48] <Siddhartha211> _jason: yea but i have to waste one whole CD-R every time i do it
[01:48] <boo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10602
[01:48] <Zarephath> EasyUbuntu perhaps?
[01:48] <Siddhartha211> wait nvmnd
[01:48] <Fujitsu> Eroick, did you install libapache2-mod-php?
[01:48] <_jason> Siddhartha211: you have the repos enabled.  But the repos are online and you don't have internet
[01:48] <maria> Healot, same error :(
[01:48] <_jason> Siddhartha211: no you only need one
[01:48] <Eroick> Fujitsu: i did that
[01:48] <Samhain> most of the time when I reboot, ubuntu starts up in 640x480. I have to reboot 3 or 4 times for it to allow me to use a higher res.
[01:48] <Kr4t05> nickrud: E: Package libstdc++5-dev has no installation candidate
[01:48] <Xenguy> themachine: scp may be applicable (encrypted file transfer)
[01:49] <Siddhartha211> _jason: but burning takes a while....ill just wait till i have DSL...then everything will be much easier
[01:49] <mzinz> Zarephath, didn't work.  I mean like visually opening the folder.
[01:49] <Healot> maria, do you just installed ubuntu?
[01:49] <Fujitsu> Eroick, can you please check if php is listed in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled?
[01:49] <themachine> thanks
[01:49] <_jason> Siddhartha211: ok...
[01:49] <maria> Healot, yeah, maybe 1 hour ago
[01:49] <Healot> !tell maria about repos
[01:49] <boo> I have a tendancy to fuck up when partitioning/formatting.  when i was trying to install linux on my ipod, i deleted my MBR by accident :(
[01:49] <Joetheodd> _jason: If Siddhartha211 doesn't have internet, how is (s)he here?
[01:49] <Siddhartha211> _jason: thanks anyways
[01:49] <brenner> ubotu: tell Samhain about fixres
[01:49] <_jason> Joetheodd: using a windows computer
[01:49] <nickrud> Kr4t05, arg, it's a virtual, I missed that: use libstdc++5-3.3-dev
[01:49] <Siddhartha211> _Joetheodd: im using windows rite now
[01:49] <Samhain> sorry, didn
[01:49] <Samhain> whoops
[01:49] <maria> Healot, ive already enabled multiverse, and universe
[01:49] <jbritz22> crimsun, im not looking for an itunes store thing, just something that gives me a media library interface, and possibly ipod support
[01:49] <Samhain> nevermind
[01:49] <Samhain> fixres
[01:49] <Joetheodd> _jason: Ew, lol.
[01:49] <Eroick> Fujitsu: nope, its not there
[01:49] <Samhain> i'll look it up
[01:49] <Xenguy> !tell Samhain about fixfes
[01:49] <Healot> maria, did you do "apt-get update"?
[01:50] <_jason> Siddhartha211: I suppose alternatively you can just download all the dependencies, burn them, and install.  Instead of checking...
[01:50] <Xenguy> !tell Samhain about fixres
[01:50] <IdleOne> jbritz22, sharpmusic does that also
[01:50] <Siddhartha211> _jason: how do i do that?
[01:50] <Frogzoo> jbritz22: amarok?
[01:50] <Samhain> !tell Samhain about fixres
[01:50] <jbritz22> Idle0one, ok
[01:50] <maria> Healot, yeah
[01:50] <nickrud> Kr4t05, are you compiling an old program? I'm not sure why you would need a dev package anyway
[01:50] <Eroick> Fujitsu: but it is in mods-available. i need to symlink?
[01:50] <Samhain> no one wants to tell me :-(
[01:50] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[01:50] <jbritz22> frogzoo, doesnt that just run under kde?
[01:50] <Kr4t05> nickrud, I'm not really compiling.
[01:50] <hope> hey room
[01:50] <Fujitsu> Symlink php5.conf and php5.load, Eroick.
[01:50] <nickrud> Kr4t05, then what program?
[01:50] <Frogzoo> jbritz22: nope - works fine under gnome
[01:50] <Fujitsu> Odd that it didn't do that automatically.
[01:50] <M|xx> can someone recommend a program like Drive Image that will take an image of a Linux partition and save it to another (NTFS) partition?
[01:50] <_jason> Siddhartha211: see all those red dots on the page before?  you click on each and download everything that shows up until you make sure you have all the red dots
[01:50] <Xenguy> Samhain: ubotu sent you a /msg
[01:50] <tristanmike> jbritz22, no, I use amaroK exclusively
[01:50] <brenner> Samhain: you're not registered/id'ed w/ nickserv
[01:51] <jayg> whats the difference between kde and gnome? just what they look like?
[01:51] <Fujitsu> Dapper, Eroick?
[01:51] <Healot> maria, what ubuntu release are you using, state the processor + version of ubuntu
[01:51] <brenner> !fixres
[01:51] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:51] <Kr4t05> nickrud, zdaemon v0.99 Linux
[01:51] <Siddhartha211> _jason: then how do i install each of them
[01:51] <Eroick> Fujitsu: no, breezt
[01:51] <jbritz22> ok
[01:51] <jbritz22> sweet
[01:51] <tristanmike> jbritz22, virtually all of KDE apps run under Gnome and vise versa
[01:51] <Eroick> when does dapper come out anyway?
[01:51] <maria> Healot, ubuntu 5.10 on a p3 800
[01:51] <Mischevious> can somone tell me why i had to mount /media/cdrom0 manually ?
[01:51] <boo> any idea brenner?
[01:51] <jbritz22> tristanmike: even konsole?
[01:51] <tristanmike> Eroick, June 1st
[01:51] <_jason> Siddhartha211: the bottom lets you download a .deb, you can install the .deb's with dpkg -i <name of deb>
[01:51] <M|xx> dapper = 6/1/06
[01:51] <Xenguy> Eroick: june 1 apparently
[01:51] <tristanmike> jbritz22, very funny
[01:51] <Fujitsu> Strange, Eroick. However, putting the symlinks in and restarting Apache should fix it.
[01:51] <boo> i did send you the pastebin didnt i?
[01:51] <Kr4t05> nickrud, prehaps you can figure this out. "zdaemon: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[01:51] <jbritz22> tristanmike, heh
[01:52] <nickrud> Kr4t05, now that helps
[01:52] <Eroick> apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.load, Fujitsu. im using 4, not 5
[01:52] <Healot> maria, do "apt-cache search mplayer" for me, see what its output
[01:52] <dash-> we have all..... the time...... in the world
[01:52] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[01:52] <brenner> Zarephath: care to help out w/ boo's grub config? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10602
[01:52] <maria> Healot,
[01:52] <Fujitsu> Did you link both php4.load and php4.conf, Eroick?
[01:52] <maria> mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[01:52] <maria> w32codecs - win32 binary codecs
[01:53] <NeverDream> is there a keyboard shortcut to force kill an app in gnome?
[01:53] <jayg> wow i didnt know ubuntu got weather thing to put up top lol
[01:53] <Frogzoo> NeverDream: guess Alt F4
[01:53] <Whatsisname> don't think so but you can run xkill NeverDream
[01:53] <Healot> you've tried to install "mplayer-386", right, maria?
[01:53] <EANx> i've finally made it in here :)
[01:53] <maria> Healot, yeah i did
[01:53] <Kr4t05> nickrud: Ok, lay it on me.
[01:53] <Eroick> Fujitsu: yes, ln -s
[01:54] <NeverDream> cool, thanks Whatsisname
[01:54] <nickrud> Kr4t05, I know enough to say that the program you're trying to run was not built on a debian based library system :)
[01:54] <IcemanV9> EANx: way to go! :)
[01:54] <EANx> LOL
[01:54] <Zarephath> Anyone know of a program that will convert my ipod music files back to their actual names..so I can copy off of ipod to hd?
[01:54] <Mischevious> can somone tell me why i had to mount /media/cdrom0 manually ? (instead of it mounting a cd automatically)
[01:54] <Fujitsu> Eroick, does php4.conf exist in mods-available/?
[01:54] <Kr4t05> nickrudL Ack.
[01:54] <EANx> i've been using ubuntu for a bit.. just haven't bothered to stop by the irc channel :)
[01:54] <Kr4t05> nickrud: Ack.
[01:54] <EANx> until now
[01:54] <IdleOne> EANx, welcome
[01:54] <Healot> ok... what's the output of "apt-cache search mplayer", maria... send the output to pastebin though
[01:54] <boo> zarepath, i think i do know of one
[01:55] <boo> you use winamp?
[01:55] <EANx> i've heard of one
[01:55] <Eroick> Fujitsu: yes, but the link in modsenabled is red with black bg
[01:55] <EANx> i was reading some mac magazine one day
[01:55] <M|xx> Is there a way to take an image of a Linux (ext2) partition?
[01:55] <Joetheodd> IdleOne, Nobody said welcome to me last night! =p
[01:55] <EANx> and i heard about something like that
[01:55] <Fujitsu> Eroick, you didn't link it properly, then.
[01:55] <EANx> thanks IdleOne
[01:55] <IdleOne> Joetheodd, welcome to #ubuntu :)
[01:55] <brenner> boo: it looks like it is trying to boot the vista loader(?).  that's the only xp related entry you have
[01:55] <Joetheodd> EANx: They don't want us using linebreaks as punctuation.
[01:55] <boo> yes
[01:55] <Joetheodd> IdleOne, thanks! <3
[01:55] <boo> it is
[01:55] <boo> i want it to boot the XP loader
[01:55] <Kr4t05> Eff that.
[01:55] <IdleOne> !tell boo about enter
[01:55] <EANx> oops
[01:56] <maria> Healot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10603
[01:56] <EANx> stupid mac i guess
[01:56] <Healot> boo, you can use "bootpart" to add your ubuntu to vista/xp bootlist
[01:56] <boo> The problem is that XP/vista arent booting.
[01:56] <nickrud> Kr4t05, I'd firsrt create a soft link from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[01:56] <nickrud>  to the library the program is looking for. If that didn't work, I'd compile it if that didn't work and I really needed.
[01:56] <tristanmike> jbritz22, very funny
[01:56] <IdleOne> boo, format the drive remove windows and use cedega to play CSS
[01:56] <jbritz22> how do I mount an ntfs partition in fluxbox?
[01:57] <tristanmike> jbritz22, nevermind, sorry, wrong paste
[01:57] <EANx> i still have my windows drive
[01:57] <NickGarvey> mkdir /mnt/hda1
[01:57] <Kr4t05> nickrud: Meh, don't worry about it.
[01:57] <_jason> jbritz22: mount -t ntfs /dev/<device> /mount/point
[01:57] <NickGarvey> wait
[01:57] <NickGarvey> !mount
[01:57] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:57] <Healot> boo, run Vista/xp with its install CD, enter recovery mode, do "fixboot" and "fixmbr"
[01:57] <boo> I would, but then my 80 gigs of TV shows/movies/porn would be gone. :(
[01:57] <Kr4t05> nickrud: I'll just wait for the coders to make the proper thing.
[01:57] <EANx> i went rummaging through it the other night because i was looking for something and i found all the pics of me at LAN parties of old
[01:57] <nickrud> Kr4t05, not too worried, I don't doom :)
[01:57] <boo> healot, after that, do i reconfigure GRUB?
[01:57] <IdleOne> boo, backup :) lmao @ pron
[01:57] <Eroick> Fujitsu: it should be mods-enabled/php4.conf mods-availible/php4.conf ?
[01:58] <jbritz22> jason, do you know how to convert from ntfs to ext3 without losing data?
[01:58] <Healot> maria, there is no "mplayer" package in your system right now
[01:58] <gazanfer> !sequencer
[01:58] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gazanfer
[01:58] <_jason> jbritz22: nope
[01:58] <Eroick> !enter
[01:58] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:58] <Fujitsu> mods-available
[01:58] <Kr4t05> nickrud: It'll just be another thing keeping me from deleting my Windows Partition. :P
[01:58] <Healot> which repository did you add/enabled, maria ?
[01:58] <cafuego> Eroick: Don't manually link them, just run 'sudo a2enmod' or 'a2dismod'
[01:58] <Healot> post me your /etc/apt/sources.list too... lemme learn better/more
[01:59] <maria> Healot. all of them, i enabled the disabled ones in the settings, and then ticked all the repositories
[01:59] <nickrud> Kr4t05, for me now there is only one rational use for windows, and I don't even game much anymore. Luck
[01:59] <cafuego> Eroick: Same goes for 'a2ensite' and 'a2dissite'
[01:59] <Eroick> cafuego: cool, thanks
[01:59] <Healot> boo, yes.. and that too, using ubuntu install CD.... skip all the other install process and go straight to the bootloader installation
[01:59] <Eroick> Fujitsu: yay, it works. thanks!
[02:00] <maria> Healot, i forgot to add multiverse to the universe repositories:)
[02:00] <jbritz22> _jason, mount: mount point /mount/point does not exist
[02:00] <Healot> hehe
[02:00] <Fujitsu> Interesting that it didn't do it automatically though, Eroick.
[02:00] <Samhain> I figured out why my resolution booted to 640x480. I have a KVM switch. When I rebooted, I switched to the other computer, therefore, the computer that was booting to ubuntu couldn't find the monitor. I stayed on the computer and it booted to normal res.
[02:00] <Eroick> Fujitsu: yeah.
[02:00] <EANx> hehehe
[02:00] <boo> Wish me luck...if i dont comeback..well....Ill have a 2000$ paperweight
[02:00] <Eroick> when dapper comes out will it be safe to distupgrade?
[02:00] <_jason> jbritz22: create it :)
[02:00] <EANx> Samhain: kvms are a PITA for stuff like that
[02:00] <Eroick> and will ruby 1.8.4 be supported?
[02:00] <Healot> and you addedd Seveas repos, yet forgot the official universe/multiverse repos, maria, maria
[02:00] <Fujitsu> Eroick, there is an automatic upgrade tool.
[02:00] <jbritz22> _jason, mkdir?
[02:01] <_jason> jbritz22: yeah
[02:01] <Samhain> EANx, yeah but they are great otherwise :-)
[02:01] <jbritz22> _jason, ok
[02:01] <Celeste> hi
[02:01] <Celeste> /dev/cdrom  is not my cdrom device
[02:01] <Healot> hi Celeste
[02:01] <EANx> indeed!
[02:01] <Celeste> where can I find it please?
[02:01] <seekr> hi, celeste
[02:01] <Neth> how would i change from gnome to KDE?
[02:01] <EANx> provided you get a decent one
[02:01] <Kr4t05> Neth, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[02:02] <IdleOne> Neth, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:02] <Kr4t05> IdleOne, too slow. ;)
[02:02] <Healot> Celeste, do you know how your CDrom is connected to your pc, via IDE/USB/SCSI?
[02:02] <IdleOne> Kr4t05, Im wearing my glasses so I cant see a thing lol
[02:02] <Celeste> Healot, I think IDE
[02:02] <Kr4t05> lol
[02:02] <_jason> IdleOne: that's not how glasses are supposed to work...
[02:02] <Celeste> but not sure
[02:02] <brenner> IdleOne: heh, what are you like /without/ your glasses then?
[02:03] <EANx> i actually had quite a panic a couple of weeks ago when all of a sudden, breezy wouldn't boot my laptop for some reason... it stopped at a fsck and i couldn't get past it... one new hard drive later and i was back in business
[02:03] <gazanfer> i need to install "sequencer" for a package to run. i know this is stupid, but anyone has any ideas about what it might be? (error i got: open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory)
[02:03] <IdleOne> _jason,  it isnt? brenner slower then with glasses
[02:03] <jbritz22> anyone know how to add a prog to the menuy
[02:03] <Healot> ok.... which IDE port it is connected to, IDE0 (the first/primary) or IDE1 (second/secondary) port?
[02:03] <chuckyp-afk> jbritz22, there is a menu editor for that
[02:03] <chuckyp-afk> jbritz22, applications> system tools
[02:04] <hintswen> hi
[02:04] <chuckyp-afk> jbritz22, applications> system tools> menu editor
[02:04] <DjMortal> #ubuntu-es
[02:04] <abarbaccia> hey all - whats comprable to frontpage in linux?
[02:04] <hintswen> my mouse stoped working last night. it's a serial mouse
[02:04] <Frogzoo> jbritz22: aps -> system -> menu editor
[02:04] <brenner> abarbaccia: nvu
[02:04] <perezidentt> I recently aquired a portable scanner called "travelscanner pro" and i tried looking for linux drivers and I tried sane also but I cannot get it to work. Can anyone please direct me toward some help?
[02:05] <Healot> travelscanner pro? usb/parallel connector?
[02:05] <chuckyp-afk> abarbaccia, you can use synaptic to search for packages.  just type in some key words and read the descriptions
[02:05] <perezidentt> usb
[02:05] <chuckyp-afk> !sane
[02:05] <ubotu> chuckyp-afk: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:05] <chuckyp-afk> hrm..
[02:05] <abarbaccia> chuckyp-afk: thanks, i just needed the program name
[02:06] <seekr> i've just installed ubuntu, and found it messed up my mbr at the end of the install process - i already had grub installed from a suse install that i've been using for the past couple of years, so i was reluctant at first to let ubunto installer overwrite the mbr - my worst fears were confirmed when after i let it and the system rebooted, i got an error instead of a grub menu - now i'm trying to find a way to repair th
[02:06] <seekr> e damage
[02:06] <brenner> chuckyp-afk: heh, was about to say you must have good eyes and long arms
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> Heh, Vista got delayed 'til 2007.
[02:06] <p01n7> how cares
[02:06] <p01n7> :P
[02:06] <EANx> we got the future right now
[02:06] <p01n7> amen
[02:06] <jbritz22> frogzoo, i dont got that
[02:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell seekr about grub
[02:06] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, I don't plane on ever buying vista
[02:06] <gazanfer> i need to install "sequencer" for a package to run. i know this is stupid, but anyone has any ideas about what it might be? (error i got: open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory)
[02:06] <perezidentt> healot: usb
[02:06] <EANx> i don't plan on it either
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: Me neither.  XP was my last Windows.
[02:06] <seekr> i'm reinstalling suse on another partition and plan to fix grub by hand afterward - maybe there's an easier way, tho
[02:06] <Frogzoo> jbritz22: aps -> system -> apps menu editor
[02:07] <seekr> tnx, _jason
[02:07] <chuckyp> gazanfer, what application are you trying to install and how are you trying to install it?
[02:07] <Frogzoo> jbritz22: that's for gnome, btw
[02:07] <_jason> seekr: follow the repairing grub after isntalling windows instructions
[02:07] <jbritz22> frogzoo, im in fluxbox ;)
[02:07] <Frogzoo> jbritz22: well...
[02:07] <chuckyp> !tell seekr about grub
[02:08] <Healot> perezidentt, does the device connected and power on right now?
[02:08] <gazanfer> chuckyp, i am trying to install pygame library for python. it installs no problem, but it doesnt work as intended and quits with this error.
[02:08] <chuckyp> gazanfer, sudo apt-get install python-pygame
[02:09] <seekr> ok, _jason
[02:09] <Frogzoo> jbritz22: fluxbox will have a menu editor I'm pretty sure - maybe just google around
[02:09] <perezidentt> Healot: it doesnt have a power button, just plug it in and go
[02:09] <jbritz22> frogzoo, ok, is there a command that shows me whats running, programwise, and is there a command to kill programs?
[02:09] <seekr> _jason & chuckyp - is this (messing up the mbr when trying to install grub) a common ubuntu problem?
[02:09] <Misnix>  jbritz22  google " fluxbox menu edit"   top of the list of results:-)
[02:10] <_jason> seekr: first time I've seen it
[02:10] <seekr> _jason - hmmmmmm
[02:10] <chuckyp> seekr, nope I do not have a problem with grub at all.  What is the problem you are having?
[02:10] <gazanfer> chuckyp, i already had it installed, but i reinstalled it after you told me. but the problem still persists...
[02:10] <Frogzoo> seekr: no it's not - but most people have pretty simple disk layouts - dual boot at max
[02:10] <`Boo`afk> haha woot! you rock healot, brennen and the other guy whose name i cant spell
[02:10] <Healot> ok, plugged in, already, perezidentt ?
[02:10] <seekr> chuckyp - as i said, after the install, i couldn't reboot
[02:10] <perezidentt> Healot: yes
[02:11] <seekr> Frogzoo- maybe that's my problem - i have two drives, and lots of partitions
[02:11] <Healot> now do "lsusb" >> let's see what usb hardware connected to your PC right now
[02:11] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$ lsusb
[02:11] <perezidentt> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[02:11] <perezidentt> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 058f:9360 Alcor Micro Corp.
[02:11] <perezidentt> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[02:11] <perezidentt> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0a82:2000 Syscan
[02:11] <perezidentt> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[02:11] <perezidentt> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[02:11] <perezidentt> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04a9:10a0 Canon, Inc.
[02:11] <perezidentt> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[02:11] <chuckyp> gazanfer, maybe then dpkg-configure python-pygame then but to help you out /dev/sequencer would be pysical device or a link to such
[02:11] <Healot> Boo, was your journey a success?
[02:11] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$
[02:11] <boo_> =D yep
[02:11] <Healot> owh... don't paste here
[02:12] <IdleOne> !tell perezidentt about paste
[02:12] <chuckyp> !tell perezidentt abotu paste
[02:12] <zanth> good evening, I have reinstalled breezy and am trying to get my logitech mx1000 mouse to work with all buttons, using the xorg.conf suggestions in this post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=602991&postcount=5
[02:12] <seekr> Frogzoo, _jason, chuckyp - the ubuntu installer seems to have found the other installed systems, since the suse installer found and reported them when it looked at the mbr during the install process
[02:12] <chuckyp> seekr, what type of error did you get?
[02:12] <perezidentt> Oh okay, sorry
[02:12] <boo_> fixboot worked, i dont think ill need to do anything else :) now all i have to do i format my ipod without deleteing my MBR again
[02:12] <Healot> btw perezidentt the scanner is detected "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0a82:2000 Syscan", I think
[02:12] <IdleOne> !tell zanth about mouse
[02:12] <AngryElf> what would cause mounting nfs filesystems to take 1-2 minutes to finish the mount command????
[02:12] <seekr> chuckyp - i should have made a note of it - i'll let you know if it comes up again later
[02:12] <perezidentt> Healot: so what do I do?
[02:12] <Healot> boo_, great to hear that
[02:13] <zanth> thanks IdleOne I'll give this a try
[02:13] <Healot> did you try to scan it using GIMP/other program that uses sane?
[02:13] <sponix2ipfw> !devel
[02:13] <Neth> once i've installed KDE what do i do?
[02:13] <ubotu> sponix2ipfw: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:13] <seekr> chuckyp - something to the effect that it couldn't load grub after the bios checks and stuff
[02:13] <chuckyp> seekr, yeah make sure you write it down.  Then ask again.  But you can always switch back to whatever bootloader you where using before.
[02:13] <sponix2ipfw> whats the package to install most of the devel tools ?
[02:13] <perezidentt> Healot: Yes, it says nothing detected
[02:13] <tristanmike> sponix2ipfw, build-essential
[02:13] <IdleOne> Neth, logout and click on session and chose kde then log back in
[02:13] <chuckyp> seekr, hrm.. well as long as you are installing it on the mbr you should be fine.
[02:13] <Healot> did you setup the scanner?
[02:14] <perezidentt> Healot: xsane scans and doesnt find anything
[02:14] <Healot> hum... I see that, wait... a sec
[02:14] <perezidentt> Healot: well i dident get the install cd with it, but on windows i searched for the driver and downloaded a scanning program
[02:14] <seekr> chuckyp - it's not that simple - i was using grub previously, under suse - so when the ubuntu installer zapped the mbr, it froze me out - luckily, i have a bunch of systems that run from cd/dvd, so i can get at the filesystems
[02:14] <perezidentt> Healot: It works fine on windows
[02:14] <juztin> how do i get xfree86-devel?
[02:15] <sponix2ipfw> tristanmike: thanks man
[02:15] <boo_> Another thing, is there any way to edit/backup/copy ntfs files from ubuntu?
[02:15] <mzinz> How do i make a home icon that goes to my home directory in gnome?
[02:15] <gazanfer> chuckyp, pygame also needs sdl library. even though it is too installed, maybe i can reinstall it. can you please help me find the sdl package to remove and reinstall?
[02:15] <Healot> perezidentt, sorry to say this, not supported by sane
[02:15] <seekr> chuckyp - the new suse install is nearly complete now, so i'll know shortly whether it was able to recover my mbr
[02:15] <Healot> http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/syscan-travelscan-pro.html >>to read more
[02:15] <brenner> juztin: something asking you about x includes?
[02:15] <chuckyp> gazanfer, well anything that pygame needs should be installed if you installed it via apt-get thats the beauty of apt it installs the required packages for you.
[02:15] <tristanmike> boo_, you can read from ntfs, but you cannot write to it, so no edit while on ntfs
[02:16] <Healot> perezidentt, run "sane-find-scanner -v -v"
[02:16] <Healot> see if sane is sane enough to detect your scanner
[02:16] <gazanfer> chuckyp, i know, but maybe something is broken with my sdl installation, etc.
[02:16] <Eleaf> oii
[02:16] <boo_> can you edit ext3 from windows?
[02:16] <brenner> mzinz: create a launcher to nautilus on your dekstop
[02:16] <Toki_Masa> boo_: No.
[02:16] <Frogzoo> !ext2
[02:16] <boo_> can you even see it from windows?
[02:16] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo
[02:16] <juztin> brenner, trying to get xine running right...when doing 'configure' on xine-lib, i got this message: For some reason, the requirements for building the X11 video
[02:16] <juztin> output plugins are not met. That means, that you will NOT be
[02:16] <juztin> able to use the resulting xine-lib to watch videos in a window
[02:16] <juztin> on any X11-based display (e.g. your desktop).
[02:16] <juztin> If this is not what you want, provide the necessary X11 build
[02:16] <perezidentt> lol
[02:16] <juztin> dependencies (usually done by installing a package called
[02:16] <Toki_Masa> Not without third-party programs.
[02:16] <juztin> XFree86-devel or similar) and run configure again.
[02:16] <Eleaf> hi
[02:16] <juztin> ack, sorry about spamming!
[02:17] <tristanmike> boo_, yeah, that shouldn't be much of a problem, but not natively
[02:17] <perezidentt> Healot: so what would you recomend doing from here? Is there anyway I can use wine to get it to work?
[02:17] <brenner> !tell boo_ about explore2fs
[02:17] <tristanmike> boo_, you'll just need some other software to help you
[02:17] <Frogzoo> !winext2
[02:17] <ubotu> well, winext2 is http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[02:17] <ddg_bluesky> hello all hi brenner
[02:17] <brenner> !tell Frogzoo about explore2fs
[02:17] <Toki_Masa> fs-driver.org - That's what I was told about first with many recommendations.
[02:17] <ddg_bluesky> brenner picking up from last night, just wondering how do I install some themes?
[02:17] <Frogzoo> boo_: see ubotu ^^
[02:18] <IdleOne> juztin, dont paste in here and sudo apt-get install xfree86-dev
[02:18] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: you're still on that?
[02:18] <Toki_Masa> I have yet to try it myself, but it does come highly recommended by lots of people. So after I install Ubuntu, I might give that app a try.
[02:18] <IdleOne> !tell juztin about paste
[02:18] <Healot> you could recompile the kernel with the Syscan driver patch...
[02:18] <ddg_bluesky> yeah didn't have time last night after to work on it
[02:18] <juztin> IdleOne, sorry, i know about paste...just didn't realize that was gonna be so long, sorry, sorry :D
[02:18] <boo_> so...winext2 or explore2fs?
[02:18] <brenner> ubotu: tell ddg_bluesky about themes
[02:18] <perezidentt> !tell perezidentt about explore2fs
[02:19] <Toki_Masa> boo_: Try the one at fs-driver.org.
[02:19] <juztin> IdleOne, i got E: Couldn't find package xfree86-dev
[02:19] <Healot> only TravelScan 460/464 is support by sane, atm, i think
[02:19] <Toki_Masa> It's going to be the one that I use once I get Linux installed.
[02:19] <perezidentt> Healot, do you think if I run that windows scanning program in wine I can get it to work?
[02:20] <Healot> maybe.... that's a good idea
[02:20] <jbritz22> can anyone tell me some fast optimized full w3 support browsers for linux
[02:20] <ddg_bluesky> brenner I typed in the command and it said packages could not be installed
[02:20] <Healot> make sure your wine has twain driver support
[02:20] <IdleOne> juztin, juztin  I dont know if its repos or not
[02:20] <IdleOne> heh
[02:20] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:21] <juztin> IdleOne, so that's the file i need to get...i can just google it?
[02:21] <groogs_> is it normal that lspci shows nothing?
[02:21] <Aklys> Can anyone help me get WPA working on a rt2500 wireless chipset?
[02:21] <Frogzoo> groogs_: sudo lspci
[02:21] <Healot> jbritz22, "amaya"
[02:21] <seekr> _jason, chuckyp, Frogzoo - no joy - still have mbr problem - error sequence: "Grub loading, please wait..." followed by "Error 21"
[02:21] <groogs_> Frogzoo: yes
[02:21] <brenner> lspci needs sudo now?
[02:22] <tristanmike> !wpa
[02:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[02:22] <ddg_bluesky> brenner, I got failed to run /etc/apt/sources.list as user root
[02:22] <Frogzoo> groogs_: well then no, it's highly unusual
[02:22] <Healot> http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-mfgs-cvs.html#Z-SYSCAN >> still unsupported by sane, perezidentt
[02:22] <perezidentt> Healot: Can I PM you about this to clear the chan abit?
[02:22] <Healot> sure
[02:22] <Aklys> can't use wpasupplicant with rt2500 drivers from what I"ve read
[02:22] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[02:22] <EANx> Aklys: just out of curiousity, do you have an averatec to go with that rt2500? :)
[02:22] <groogs_> Frogzoo: ok, thats what I figured. I have no /proc/pci either, and can't get my network card loaded
[02:22] <seekr> _jason, chuckyp, Frogzoo - maybe i should read the docs from ubotu, as you suggested
[02:22] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: sorry, only gave you half a command :-/
[02:22] <Aklys> EANx: averatec???
[02:23] <Healot> does rt2500 hardware support WAP?
[02:23] <ddg_bluesky> brenner thank you no problem
[02:23] <groogs_> Frogzoo: is there a module that provides that stuff..?
[02:23] <sanity> can anyone point me to some (simple) documentation on how to replace the default kernel with one that supports SMP and more than 4GB of RAM?
[02:23] <EANx> it's a laptop manufacturer
[02:23] <Frogzoo> brenner: no, no need for sudo with lspci - my bad
[02:23] <Healot> or it's for the old WEP...
[02:23] <Aklys> Healot: it supposedly does.
[02:23] <brenner> Frogzoo: no sweat
[02:23] <Healot> ah
[02:23] <ddg_bluesky> brenner ok I have that file up , what next
[02:23] <Aklys> EANx: no this is a Belkin PCI card
[02:23] <Dark_pahnt0m> OMG is kde always so clow & problomatic in video?? I am having minor widget problems
[02:23] <EANx> ahh ok
[02:23] <EANx> just wondering :)
[02:23] <liana> can someone help me, i'm a newbie to all this and i'm running dapper flight 5. i've followed the tech support instructions on the ubuntu site, but am getting a message saying the w32codecs are not available when i do an apt-get, does someone know how i can get these?
[02:23] <Healot> yet the linux driver doesn't do WAP well, Aklys ?
[02:23] <Dark_pahnt0m> slow*
[02:24] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: i assume you're running breezy.  replace the entire contents with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[02:24] <Frogzoo> groogs_: is this a new install?
[02:24] <nictuku> I'm testing a dist upgrade to dapper. Is using aptitude's "U" command supported as a dist-update method?
[02:24] <mzinz> i just got a program called gDeskCal.. its a real small little app that has a calendar on my desktop.  how can i make it open up during boot?
[02:24] <perezidentt> Healot: Did you get my pm?
[02:24] <Aklys> Healot: I'm not sure if it does. I can enter the information into /etc/network/interfaces and it shows it in iwconfig. But when I ifup eth1 it falls can't ping anything bar itself
[02:24] <Healot> nay.... isn't blocking either
[02:24] <juztin> how do i install a file of type .rpm ?
[02:24] <groogs_> Frogzoo: it's a breezy install that was recently changed to drake. i seem to remember manually loading my network card after breezy though
[02:25] <mrt> how do you defragmnt your hard drive? breezy
[02:25] <marsh> anyone???hello
[02:25] <marsh> ?
[02:25] <bimberi> mzinz: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, Startup Programs
[02:25] <brenner> mzinz: sys >prefs>sessions>startup apps
[02:25] <tristanmike> !tell liana, about w32codecs
[02:25] <IcemanV9> ubotu: tell liana about w32codecs
[02:25] <Dark_pahnt0m> What can I do too speed up my display on KDE desktop?? My widgets are spriting when little menu's & boxes are on desktop
[02:25] <Healot> Aklys, maybe it just doesn't do WAP well...
[02:25] <jbritz22> what are the commands to install something from a tar package
[02:25] <Frogzoo> mzinz: is this a gdesklet? if so, you need to configure gdesklet to start it
[02:25] <perezidentt> Healot: Can you PM me instead first?
[02:25] <brenner> mzinz: you're giving us a workout.  try sys>help  you're asking a lot of easy questions
[02:25] <NickGarvey> !pm
[02:25] <chuckyp> !tell jbritz22 about compile
[02:25] <ubotu> Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[02:25] <Dark_pahnt0m> WAP?? is that a joke agenst italians :P
[02:25] <mzinz> Frogzoo, no
[02:25] <chuckyp> jbritz22, What are you trying to install?
[02:25] <Aklys> Healot: How do you distinguish if it doesn't do WPA well
[02:25] <mrt> ok ok
[02:25] <tristanmike> !tell liana about w32codecs
[02:25] <NsOmNiAc> no that's WOP
[02:25] <NsOmNiAc> not WAP
[02:25] <NsOmNiAc> heh
[02:25] <chuckyp> jbritz22, also tar files are jus tcompressed files like zips
[02:25] <NsOmNiAc> LOL
[02:25] <jbritz22> chuckyp, fluxbox conf
[02:26] <chuckyp> jbritz22, why not install it via apt-get
[02:26] <Frogzoo> mzinz: system -> prefs -> sessions -> startup
[02:26] <liana> thanks folks
[02:26] <jbritz22> chuckyp, cant find it on there
[02:26] <brenner> mrt: no need. ext3 doesn't fragment
[02:26] <dgibb> hello, is it possible to install libapache2-mod-jk?
[02:26] <chuckyp> jbritz22, well if universe and multiverse are enable sudo apt-get fluxconf
[02:26] <juztin> how do i install a file of type .rpm ?
[02:26] <ddg_bluesky> brenner its there
[02:26] <Healot> it fails to setup WAP connection? Aklys, as you said, you config'ed the interfaces, then it fails to connect?
[02:26] <tristanmike> juztin, you need alien
[02:26] <gazanfer> i have php mysql and apache installed. but i dont want them to run at startup. how can i do that?
[02:26] <Dark_pahnt0m> How do I fix my video problem? Its slow & sprites miinor white dashes when there a menu or box open
[02:26] <chuckyp> !tell juztin about rpm
[02:26] <dgibb> I hear that mod-jk2 is no longer supported
[02:26] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: save and close the file. then run sudo apt-get update
[02:26] <jbritz22> chuckyp, ha, it is, I typed fluxmenu before
[02:26] <tristanmike> juztin, sudo apt-get install alien
[02:26] <perezidentt> juztin: rpm files are for redhat
[02:26] <jbritz22> chuckyp, my bad
[02:26] <Frogzoo> groogs_: you might have better luck on #ubuntu+1
[02:26] <Aklys> Healot: all I know is that it can't ping outside of itself. IT doesn't show any other errors.
[02:26] <perezidentt> you have to use alien
[02:26] <brenner> Dark_pahnt0m: sys specs?
[02:27] <marsh> How do I find out which version of Ubuntu I need for a v266b motherboard with a AMD ATHLON XP 2400 processor... - isa this 64bit?
[02:27] <mrt> ty brnnr
[02:27] <bimberi> !info libapache2-mod-jk
[02:27] <crimsun> sounds like a -k7
[02:27] <boo_> whats multiverse and universe
[02:27] <juztin> perezidentt, yeah, i know, but i can't find any other download for xfree86-devel :(
[02:27] <ddg_bluesky> brenner what do I save it as?
[02:27] <tristanmike> marsh, no, just the i386 one
[02:27] <Aklys> healot: as I don't know how to tell if it is the IP side of things messing up or the wireless connectin
[02:27] <chuckyp> marsh, the 386 version will work on it.
[02:27] <Neth> KDE is running but i have one problem with it...where is my print screen feature??? i cant aprt with it
[02:27] <dgibb> bimberi:?
[02:27] <brenner> ubotu: tell boo_ about components
[02:27] <bimberi> !info libapache2-mod-jk dapper
[02:27] <Dark_pahnt0m> 4 meg card running 512 meg ram on  20 gig HDD & KDE ubuntu
[02:27] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-jk: (Apache 2 connector for the Tomcat Java servlet engine), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.14.1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 80 kB, Installed size: 292 kB
[02:27] <ddg_bluesky> brenner do I save it in the apt folder?
[02:27] <Dark_pahnt0m> ooh 500 mhz proccessor
[02:27] <Healot> ~need more inspection on that... Aklys
[02:27] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: wait a sec.  when you opened it, did it already have existing text?
[02:27] <bimberi> dgibb: hm, it's in dapper but not breezy :|
[02:27] <Frogzoo> Neth: tried the 'printscreen' button?
[02:28] <mrt> m 2 brnnr
[02:28] <Healot> do you have rt2500 hardware yourself, Aklys ?
[02:28] <ddg_bluesky> yes it did, when I opened it , I pasted it
[02:28] <dgibb> bimberi: oh... too bad... how is dapper these days? stable?
[02:28] <perezidentt> Where can I view a list of repositories avaliable?
[02:28] <Aklys> healot: rt2500 is the chipset on the belkin card I'm working with.
[02:28] <chuckyp> !tell perezidentt about repos
[02:28] <Dark_pahnt0m> I am also having trouble getting cedegatoo install properly :(
[02:28] <marsh> tristanmike, chuckyp it's not working - gets most of the way through installing the base system (haory) and says there's no installable system.!?!!? - The disks worked fine for loads of installs before...but only on pIII 800's
[02:28] <azadder> later
[02:28] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: just save and close
[02:29] <ddg_bluesky> brenner do I need to save it again
[02:29] <Aklys> Healot: and it works fine on a windows installation. Just can't get it to function on linux
[02:29] <Healot> Aklys, can you connect to AP without WAP?
[02:29] <ddg_bluesky> brenner ok saved
[02:29] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: now run: sudo apt-get update
[02:29] <bimberi> dgibb: i'm running nonupdated flight5 and it is stable for me.  Staying right up to date would be more risky.
[02:29] <Healot> maybe just wrong setting, Aklys, can't tell much if cant see it
[02:29] <Aklys> Healot: considering I'm currently connected among other workstations to it. No I wouldn't be able to do it without WPA.
[02:29] <Dark_pahnt0m> Its WOP not WAP, quit making fun of the italians :P
[02:29] <chuckyp> marsh, why are you install hoary?
[02:29] <Aklys> I can msg you anything you need
[02:30] <brenner> Dark_pahnt0m: 4 meg graphic card?
[02:30] <ddg_bluesky> brenner ok I did the update
[02:30] <marsh> tristanmike, chuckyp, I dld'd breezy disk (but cant find md5's (??) and that doesn't work either... it installs - but then the apps dont work...
[02:30] <Healot> is there any italian?
[02:30] <marsh> chuck - because the breezy didn't work
[02:30] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: now run the command ubotu sent you
[02:30] <chuckyp> marsh, why don't you try a mem test.
[02:30] <Dark_pahnt0m> yes brenner its an onboard video card
[02:30] <Healot> Aklys, btw, I don't have rt2500 hardware... just a good infor before actually buying any wifi hardware
[02:30] <dgibb> bimberi: flight5?
[02:30] <tristanmike> marsh, md5's   http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu/iso/5.10/MD5SUMS
[02:30] <AngryElf> all of a sudden my sound card isn't being recognized in gnome, /dev/dsp exists.......how do i connect it back up?
[02:30] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: what you just did was enabled two extra repositories
[02:30] <marsh> I have to install to get to the memtest, don't I?
[02:31] <bimberi> !tell dgibb about flight5
[02:31] <Aklys> yeah I read that it should work when configured manually
[02:31] <Frogzoo> marsh: check the breezy isos md5 mebbe? & burn next time a little slower
[02:31] <m0rbid> what's a good wireless card for a laptop that will work for ubuntu?
[02:31] <Dark_pahnt0m> I do know its an ati 3d
[02:31] <Dark_pahnt0m> any wireless
[02:31] <morfeus> [09:50]  <morfeus>
[02:31] <morfeus> hello
[02:31] <jbritz22> how come after using fluxmenu I have no icons?
[02:31] <ddg_bluesky> brenner I just did the command but Im getting the same error
[02:31] <brenner> Dark_pahnt0m: well, just a stab, but it could be that KDE is too resource heavy for your specs
[02:31] <morfeus>  anyone knows how to delete specific line numbers in my text.file?
[02:31] <Aklys> Healot: I knew it worked with WEP out of the box. But read it was easy to configure WPAPSK on it too. But did the configuration and it just doesn't work.
[02:31] <dgibb> bimberi: that !tell thing doesn't seem to work
[02:31] <|Daemoen|> anyone happen to know of a way of resetting root password if the os happens to be installed in vmware * snickers *
[02:31] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <Dark_pahnt0m> linux kde on winlinux ran on slower &^ I installed full KDe on that
[02:32] <bimberi> dgibb: did you get a /msg from ubotu?  anyway...
[02:32] <ddg_bluesky> brenner ok, do you want me to paste the error too?
[02:32] <bimberi> !flight5
[02:32] <ubotu> from memory, flight5 is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[02:32] <Healot> hum... see, Aklys, did you do it according to the manual/man somewhere?
[02:32] <Frogzoo> |Daemoen|: boot to recovery mode - ie single user
[02:32] <UNiXWHoRe> hey peepz...
[02:32] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: sure
[02:32] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: use a pastebin though
[02:32] <jbritz22> when i try and run amarok
[02:32] <dgibb> bimberi: nope
[02:32] <odez909> hi all
[02:32] <jbritz22> i get
[02:32] <odez909> i need help installing nvidia driver
[02:32] <brenner> Dark_pahnt0m: try #kubuntu
[02:32] <jbritz22> there was an error setting up the inter-processing communications for kde
[02:32] <Aklys> I've done it to alot of manuals. I'll find a link to one of the instructions I followed
[02:32] <Dark_pahnt0m> brenner I doubt that pc has 2 doo with it, I seen linux KDE run on a 233 with 1 meg card liek a god
[02:32] <chuckyp> odez909, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:33] <LordMelkor> how do i enable "direct rendering" for my intel grafx card
[02:33] <chuckyp> !tell odez909 about nvidia
[02:33] <marky> hi
[02:33] <bimberi> dgibb: strange, anyway the link is posted by ubotu above
[02:33] <dgibb> bimberi: if I just change my sources.list to dapper, everything should be froody, right?
[02:33] <Dark_pahnt0m> im not running Kubuntu
[02:33] <chuckyp> LordMelkor, edit the xorg.conf
[02:33] <marky> can someone tell me how to do the replace totem player thingy?
[02:33] <sponix2ipfw> File "./easyubuntu.py", line 22, in ?
[02:33] <sponix2ipfw>     import gtk, gtk.glade
[02:33] <sponix2ipfw> ImportError: No module named gtk
[02:33] <UNiXWHoRe> i have an old 3dfx voodoo2 here, and i am trying to compile 3dfxdevice... now, during the compile, it gives me weird warning about undefined symbols...
[02:33] <Dark_pahnt0m> I mearly installed the kde desktop for ease of use
[02:33] <chuckyp> marky, please read the wiki
[02:33] <bimberi> !upgrade
[02:33] <LordMelkor> chuckyp how so
[02:33] <_jason> marky: in firefox?
[02:33] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:33] <sponix2ipfw> umm, on (K)ubuntu with easyubuntu I'm getting this that error
[02:33] <ddg_bluesky> brenner pastbin.com/615424 is the error
[02:33] <boo_> Is it possible to play any game that i own (for windows) for free on ubuntu? Are there any emulation programs I must buy?
[02:33] <marky> _jason you got it
[02:33] <bimberi> dgibb: ^^^^^ (ubotu)
[02:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell marky about replacetotem
[02:33] <groogs_> lspci has output in 2.6.12-9-386 but not 2.6.15-17-386 or 2.6.15-19-386...
[02:33] <sponix2ipfw> I just installed glade with apt
[02:33] <marky> _jason remebr me?ut it before you told me abo
[02:33] <chuckyp> LordMelkor, what video card do you have?
[02:33] <Aklys> Healot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78250
[02:33] <brenner> Dark_pahnt0m: wow. i was wiating an eternity on my old mmx 200 w/ win 98
[02:33] <odez909> chuckyp: i did those before and the problem is my brightness screen
[02:34] <marsh> tristanmike,  - why they don't have the md5 on the download site?
[02:34] <LordMelkor> chuckyp: intel 810
[02:34] <_jason> marky: yeah
[02:34] <UNiXWHoRe> and after compile, the module is unusable, give me 3dfx: Unknown symbol verify_area
[02:34] <UNiXWHoRe> 3dfx: Unknown symbol remap_page_range
[02:34] <Frogzoo> |Daemoen|: there is no root password - use sudo
[02:34] <marky> _jason thanks
[02:34] <_jason> marky: np
[02:34] <marky> thanks tony
[02:34] <marsh> Frogzoo, will give it a go...
[02:34] <mrt> ! sudo
[02:34] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:34] <dgibb> bimberi: all right. Thanks
[02:34] <ddg_bluesky> brenner pastbin.com/615426 is the file
[02:34] <tazer> I cant empty my trashbin :( ""/home/tazer...2ff164.rbf" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder."
[02:34] <Dark_pahnt0m> yeah he rqan redhat debain & others till he got one that worked on kde & it ran like a god, its necause linux dont rely on extra resources as windows does
[02:34] <bimberi> dgibb: wait...
[02:34] <mrt> ! sudo
[02:34] <Dark_pahnt0m> no extra crap
[02:34] <tazer> Any ideas? can i do it manually?
[02:34] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: heh. was wondering
[02:34] <Healot> Aklys, which wifi hardware is most likely easy to setup in ubuntu, any experience, Aklys ?
[02:34] <dgibb> bimberi: hmm?
[02:35] <UNiXWHoRe> anyone of you have any experience with voodoo2 on 2.6.x kernels?
[02:35] <chuckyp> LordMelkor, and what do you mena by direct rendering?
[02:35] <bimberi> !info libapache2-mod-jk2
[02:35] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-jk2: (Apache 2.0 connector for the Tomcat Java servlet engine), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 2.0.4-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 152 kB, Installed size: 688 kB
[02:35] <starpause> i just insterted an sd card on my system and it's showing up in /media/usbdisk/ but using that for the of= parameter of dd doesn't work. how can use dd to write an image of an sd card onto my /media/usbdisk ???
[02:35] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: ok, you haven't changed it :-/  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <bimberi> dgibb: i had the wrong name sorry ^^^^^
[02:35] <marsh> tristanmike, chuckyp md5's check ok...
[02:35] <Aklys> healot: This is the easiest one I've found. But  just haven't been able to get wpapsk working on it
[02:35] <dgibb> bimberi: oh
[02:35] <Dark_pahnt0m> I have exp with voodoo2 on linux system winlinux I dunno what ver
[02:35] <brenner> hang even
[02:35] <dgibb> damn
[02:35] <Healot> eh
[02:35] <chuckyp> marsh, please do a memory test
[02:35] <Dark_pahnt0m> what you need 2 know?
[02:35] <mrt> !sudo
[02:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:35] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: run that
[02:35] <dgibb> bimberi: so do you know if it's possible to install jk on apache2?
[02:36] <marsh> chuckyp, can I do a memtest without an installation?
[02:36] <chuckyp> marsh, yes I beleive its a boot option on the cd.
[02:36] <ddg_bluesky> brenner ok I have it up, what do I need to change
[02:36] <marsh> I've not been asble to find memtest86 anywhere but in grub...
[02:36] <Frogzoo> starpause: you need to dd of= to the device, not where it's mounted
[02:36] <chuckyp> marsh, what type of hardware are you using?
[02:36] <marsh> ok...
[02:36] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: replace it with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[02:36] <chuckyp> marsh, and does anything work with it?
[02:36] <bimberi> dgibb: no idea, haven't used it myself,  looks like libapache2-mod-jk2 is the package though
[02:36] <_jason> |Daemoen|: what are you trying to do?
[02:36] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: you're running breezy right?
[02:36] <Amaranth> |Daemoen|: the root account has an invalid password, what are you trying to do?
[02:36] <marsh> with breezy, yes....
[02:37] <marky> i still can't watch media on my network, but can from www, in vlc in mplayer and the rest even no mp3's playing in xmms  , but if i copy it  , it'll play from my desktop
[02:37] <Frogzoo> starpause: also, I wouldn't have the device mounted while you do that
[02:37] <welemski> hi peep
[02:37] <welemski> i have a question...
[02:37] <marky> any ideas?
[02:37] <dgibb> bimberi: everyone seems to say that it's no longer being developed, and jk should be preferentially used
[02:37] <starpause> Frogzoo, thanks, i'll try that
[02:37] <chuckyp> !tell welemski about ask
[02:37] <ddg_bluesky> brenner the code in the brown box?
[02:37] <|Daemoen|> im trying to get access to my root account, so that i can make system wide changes, such as editing visudo, and numerous conf files
[02:37] <Dark_pahnt0m> I am running breezy what can I do too maximize my eficiancy of my video card & stop the little widgte sprites that show & sometimes freak out my login screen when I logoff
[02:37] <dgibb> bimberi: which is annoying
[02:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell |Daemoen| about sudo
[02:37] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: yep
[02:37] <bimberi> dgibb: ah
[02:37] <jbritz22> is it possible to run amarok on fluxbox, I keep getting errors
[02:37] <Dark_pahnt0m> widget*
[02:37] <Frogzoo> !tell |Daemoen| about sudo
[02:37] <chuckyp> |Daemoen|, sudo -s
[02:37] <_jason> |Daemoen|: you can do all that with sudo
[02:38] <marsh> chuckyp, no memtest on cd - or hoary live cd.... (perhaps something that should be added?)
[02:38] <ddg_bluesky> brenner now run the update again?
[02:38] <|Daemoen|> yes and no, last i checked, sudo doesnt change your login shell to inherit the root user path.
[02:38] <chuckyp> marsh, try a breezy cd
[02:38] <Mischevious> anyone know of any good speech to text software
[02:38] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: sudo apt-get update
[02:38] <Healot> it's on Breezy or later
[02:38] <dgibb> bimberi: and I'm having a hard enough time setting this up without complicating things...
[02:38] <_jason> |Daemoen|: sudo -i, I believe does
[02:38] <Eleaf> Can somebody help me with the firestarter firewall gui?
[02:38] <Dark_pahnt0m> you have too use su too access root path
[02:38] <Amaranth> |Daemoen|: sudo -i
[02:38] <chuckyp> Mischevious, isn't there one installed?
[02:38] <Eleaf> I need to open up about 2000 ports, I don't believe firestarter allows port ranges..
[02:38] <Eleaf> =S
[02:38] <Mischevious> chuckyp, i don't think so
[02:38] <Amaranth> |Daemoen|: it'll put you in a root shell with the proper environment setup
[02:39] <Fox_Mike> Hello all, anyone knows about USBNET?
[02:39] <ddg_bluesky> brenner yeah something happened it was able to update without any errors
[02:39] <bimberi> dgibb: well you're probably talking to the wrong person.  I can point you to a package or too but beyond that ...  :)
[02:39] <bimberi> *two
[02:39] <ddg_bluesky> brenner now run the sudo command for the gnome art?
[02:39] <chuckyp> Mischevious, well try apt-cache search text to speach
[02:39] <Healot> Fox_Mike, for Ambit Cable Modem?
[02:39] <Mischevious> chuckyp, what
[02:39] <Mischevious> okay
[02:39] <neurosis_> when i installed ubuntu it started hplip ethernet printer.  Is this needed if i plan to use samba anyway?
[02:39] <marsh> chuckyp, found it - sorry... was lloking for memtest86... it's just memtest :-/
[02:39] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: yep
[02:39] <boo_> Any VOIP progs for linux?
[02:39] <Fox_Mike> Healot: for an iPaq running familiar linux...
[02:39] <dgibb> bimberi: ok. thanks
[02:39] <chuckyp> Mischevious, search for text to speech apps  You have the ability to search 1,000
[02:39] <bimberi> dgibb: yw :)
[02:40] <zinzin88> hi, someone here can help me whit my ati driver installation ?
[02:40] <patrix> boo_, ekiga (in gnome 2.14), gizmo, openwengo, skype, x-lite from Xten, etc
[02:40] <bimberi> boo_: ekiga, skype, gizmo
[02:40] <Mischevious> chuckyp, didn't find anything promising
[02:40] <chuckyp> Mischevious, 1000's of apps right there.
[02:40] <Frogzoo> |Daemoen|: sudo -i
[02:40] <Mischevious> boo_, many use ekiga
[02:40] <ladofnod> i'd really like to know how to play mp4 video. can someone direct me to the correct plugin?
[02:40] <ddg_bluesky> brenner cool we are installing now without any errors, can you explain why I had to replace the file?
[02:40] <marsh> chuckyp, have been at this since 11am - it's now 1am...
[02:40] <chuckyp> Mischevious, isn't festival or something like that the standard
[02:40] <marsh> <- feels a little fried... :(
[02:40] <Eleaf> Where is the config file firestarter creates??
[02:40] <Toki_Masa> My only potential problem with installing Ubuntu is making sure I don't overwrite my Windows NTFS partition. What will I need to do to chose the right place for my installation to occur?
[02:40] <Mischevious> dunno
[02:40] <ddg_bluesky> brenner ok cool we are installed now
[02:40] <Dark_pahnt0m> I installed cedega & it wont run whats going on?
[02:41] <dubious9> hey anybody get a chance to use the new nvidia 7600 yet?
[02:41] <dgibb> um anyone here familiar with libapache2-mod-jk2?
[02:41] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: the default file doesn't enable universe or multiverse. the code you pasted in does.
[02:41] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: and gnome-art is in universe
[02:41] <welemski> what's the difference between thesse two repository "us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/" and "us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe" ? I looked at it and saw they mostly have the same content...
[02:41] <chuckyp> marsh, What type of hardware are you trying to instlal on?  I.e. what type of cpu etc..
[02:41] <_jason> !components
[02:41] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[02:41] <welemski> thanks....
[02:41] <bimberi> !tell welemski about components
[02:41] <chuckyp> Dark_pahnt0m, go to cedega support since you are paying for it.
[02:42] <Dark_pahnt0m> HOW do I  get cedega too run?? I clicked on it & it wont work
[02:42] <ddg_bluesky> brenner ok cool, so I just launched the program
[02:42] <Dark_pahnt0m> trial
[02:42] <chuckyp> welemski, universe is the difference
[02:42] <mrt> is there a good web page for bsic deffinitions used here? this is daunting and deep but if i knew what the accronims and deffinitions of the words are it would help
[02:42] <bimberi> !tell bimberi to read the channel before hitting the enter key
[02:42] <dubious9> quit
[02:42] <dubious9> hehe
[02:42] <Dark_pahnt0m> HEL:P me I am using trial & I cant get it 2 work
[02:42] <Frogzoo> mrt: maybe take a browse over at tldp.org
[02:42] <brenner> mrt: what are you having trouble with?
[02:42] <chuckyp> !tell Dark_pahnt0m about helpme
[02:43] <Eleaf> elp! lol
[02:43] <marsh> chuckyp, Athlon XP (0.13) 2009Mhz - Jetway(?) v266b rev:3.0 mobo
[02:43] <Dark_pahnt0m> !tell chuck about either help or dont I dont wand BS
[02:43] <Dark_pahnt0m> want*
[02:43] <chuckyp> ?
[02:43] <chuckyp> what?
[02:43] <mrt> the names of basic things
[02:43] <Eleaf> Where is the config file firestarter creates??
[02:43] <phreak97> WHY? why doesnt ubuntu support more than 60Hz at 1280x960 on my hardware?
[02:44] <chuckyp> Dark_pahnt0m, I don't have to be here helping people you know?
[02:44] <marsh> chuckyp, Athlon XP (0.13) 2009Mhz - Jetway(?) v266b rev:3.0 mobo - 512Mb DDR (2x256)
[02:44] <phreak97> are you saying windows is better at video than linux?
[02:44] <chuckyp> Dark_pahnt0m, and you demanding that I help you is pretty ignorant.
[02:44] <Dark_pahnt0m> scro;; up chuck I did ask question & awnsered question & repeated question chuck
[02:44] <Eleaf> phreak97, maybe you don't have your drivers setup?
[02:44] <chuckyp> marsh, are you using the i386 iso's?
[02:44] <Frogzoo> mrt: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[02:44] <Dark_pahnt0m> chuck either help or plz sttfu thank you
[02:44] <starpause> Frogzoo, i've unmounted the usbdisk, but how do i figure out what the device is called to dd to it?
[02:44] <phreak97> Eleaf, i do
[02:44] <phreak97> i even get the nvidia splash screen
[02:44] <brenner> phreak97: your monitor rates are probably wrong
[02:44] <chuckyp> Dark_pahnt0m, You never asked a question you stated I can get cedega to run help me.
[02:44] <_jason> chuckyp,Dark_pahnt0m: you guys had a misunderstanding... please just drop it
[02:44] <Frogzoo> starpause: easiest to just mount it, then 'mount'
[02:44] <phreak97> brenner, how do you mean?
[02:44] <chuckyp> Dark_pahnt0m, that is not a question
[02:45] <thoffmeyer> how come a user cant write to this reiserfs partition I just made on a second harddrive?
[02:45] <chuckyp> _jason, no its not a missunderstanding
[02:45] <dgibb> um anyone here familiar with libapache2-mod-jk2?
[02:45] <mrt> frogzoo ineed definitions to understand lot of tht lol
[02:45] <Dark_pahnt0m> chuck your not helping your giving me stupid awnsers & BS
[02:45] <phreak97> what 'rates' are there to be wrong?
[02:45] <brenner> phreak97: is this a laptop?
[02:45] <chuckyp> lsa l';vb
[02:45] <phreak97> nope
[02:45] <phreak97> 17" crt
[02:45] <chuckyp> Dark_pahnt0m, good luck with your problem bro
[02:45] <Dark_pahnt0m> I askeed once again I have cedega trial & cant get it too run what do I do chuck
[02:45] <TR30> thoffmeyer, maybe umask needs to be set to 000
[02:45] <brenner> phreak97: your monitor vertical and horizontal sync rates are specified in xorg.conf .  sometimes' they're detected wrong
[02:45] <Dark_pahnt0m> chuck you didnt scroll up your only being stupid suck my /ignore
[02:46] <chuckyp> wow
[02:46] <thoffmeyer> TR30, tried, just gives me an error when I try to mount it
[02:46] <brenner> phreak97: pastebin xorg.conf
[02:46] <Frogzoo> mrt: http://help.ubuntu.com/  perhaps?
[02:46] <_jason> Dark_pahnt0m: do realize everyone here is a volunteer.  No need to name-call
[02:46] <_sHaDe> n8 all :*
[02:46] <TR30> thoffmeyer, device busy error?
[02:46] <starpause> Frogzoo, would 'sde' be the device?
[02:46] <ddg_bluesky> brenner so what I need to do now is download the theme I want and install?
[02:46] <thoffmeyer> TR30, no, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2
[02:46] <phreak97> brenner, will you be here in 6 hours? i have to go out, im running late
[02:46] <Frogzoo> starpause: certainly could be - just be sure you don't inadvertently clobber some other file system
[02:46] <Dark_pahnt0m> jason he is being stupid saying I didnt ask a question when I asked several.. he can eat ignore like a good lil tart
[02:46] <brenner> phreak97: not likely
[02:47] <brenner> ubotu: tell phreak97 about fixres
[02:47] <mrt> ty
[02:47] <TR30> thoffmeyer, wooo... maybe bad sector on that partition
[02:47] <marsh> chuckyp, yes.      and looking at the memtest, it's only checking 256mB - is that right and it checks the other later? - it also appears to be only checking cache...? or is this just my reading of it - i not too knowledgable... :(
[02:47] <brenner> phreak97: there's a line there to autodetect your rates. make sure they match w/ the ones in xorg.conf
[02:47] <thoffmeyer> i can mount it fine TR30 without umask
[02:47] <Eleaf> Seriously, then how does firestarter work?
[02:47] <Eleaf> It saves a config file right?
[02:47] <dixiet> hi, I have a trouble with udev. I couldnt make my speedtouch modem with it because dapper uses udev instead of hotplug.
[02:47] <Frogzoo> starpause: best way to check is dd if=/dev/sde | od -c | less
[02:47] <Eleaf> for iptables.
[02:47] <TR30> bad superblocks suck
[02:47] <chuckyp> marsh, dunno i've never run it.  Are you using the i386 iso's?
[02:47] <brenner> phreak97: otherwise, you need to google your monitor model for them
[02:47] <_jason> Dark_pahnt0m: obviously he didn't see your question... but let's stop talking about it
[02:47] <TR30> have to format bad superblocks to fix
[02:47] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: never used the tool to be honest :-/
[02:48] <marsh> chuckyp, yes
[02:48] <Dark_pahnt0m> I told em 2 scroll up he gave me BS so I /ignored
[02:48] <|Daemoen|> ok... now maybe this time ill be able to explain the entire dilemma...
[02:48] <brenner> ddg_bluesky: did you run it?
[02:48] <Frogzoo> TR30: how do you do that?
[02:48] <Dark_pahnt0m> AGAIN I am installing cedega but it will not run how do I fix this
[02:48] <nickrud> Eleaf, it creates a file /etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh
[02:48] <marsh> chuck - I'm not ignoring your q's - I have answered before (just to let you know...
[02:48] <_jason> Eleaf: try dpkg -L firestarter
[02:48] <boo_> is there any way to get xfire on ubuntu?
[02:48] <chuckyp> marsh, I would assume its some sort of harware related issue.   You have pretty common stuff that other people don't have issues getting working.  Does any os work on yoru hardware?
[02:49] <TR30> Frogzoo, format ?
[02:49] <Eleaf> nickrud, thank you.  _jason , is it possible to have firestarter open a range of ports?  I see no way of doing this.
[02:49] <marsh> xp's been fine...
[02:49] <chuckyp> Dark_pahnt0m, please stop spamming your question someone will get to you in time.
[02:49] <|Daemoen|> I installed ubuntu in vmware.... and managed to lose the root account password (i still swear it never asked me for a root password during install phase in the first place) anyways...  cant install the vmware tools... cant access root of course... so suggestions on ways to reset root password on a vmware installation?  note the situation:  no root password... cant sudo without root pw, vmware
[02:49] <Dark_pahnt0m> I have it installed but it fails 2 start no errors
[02:49] <groogs> Frogzoo: hrm, got it to work.. remembered i had to add pci=noacpi to menu.lst .. is there a way to make it always do that, as dpkg overwrites it when i install new kernels?
[02:49] <marsh> much as i hate to admit it...
[02:49] <drew> hi. when starting X for the first time (ie: on boot) my cursor is frozen until I switch to another VT and back... any clues
[02:49] <Frogzoo> TR30: fix bad superblocks while leaving the data intact?
[02:49] <chuckyp> !tell |Daemoen| about sudo
[02:49] <starpause> Frogzoo, that puts a bunch of trash i don't understand on my screen? heh
[02:49] <marsh> chuckyp, yeah - xp... but i only just acquired it...
[02:49] <|Daemoen|> would you STOP saying SUDO!!!!!!!!!
[02:49] <chuckyp> marsh, does it crash or blue screen?
[02:49] <Frogzoo> groogs: check at the top of menu.lst for the kopts option - then 'update-grub'
[02:50] <|Daemoen|> you CANNOT use sudo WITHOUT the damned password!
[02:50] <NickGarvey> !caps
[02:50] <ubotu> caps is, like, FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[02:50] <marsh> not that I know of...
[02:50] <chuckyp> |Daemoen|, if you would read the message from ubotu you would understand that you don't give a root password
[02:50] <nazgulwalker> how can i isntall w32 codes to amd64 breezy?
[02:50] <Ropechoborra> Wow... dont get mad mate
[02:50] <Ropechoborra> xD
[02:50] <starpause> Frogzoo, but drying a 'dd if=sd.dd of=/dev/sde' returns 'dd: opening '/dev/sde': Permission denied
[02:50] <TR30> Frogzoo, you have to move the data to a good partition...but data that is on the bad superblock might not be able to be copied
[02:50] <_jason> |Daemoen|: it's your user password
[02:50] <chuckyp> |Daemoen|, you use YOUR USERS PASSWORD
[02:50] <michael> how can I sort music files into directories based on their ID3 tags?
[02:50] <boo_> !tell boo_ about sudo
[02:50] <chuckyp> _jason, You know what i'm done helping these asses.
[02:50] <|Daemoen|> I apologize... It would appear you guys have changed the way sudo works by default
[02:50] <NickGarvey> boo_: you can use /msg ubotu <question> to ask
[02:50] <marsh> they got an upgrade & wanted shot of it... I wanted upgrade.... may have been bumped :(
[02:51] <dgibb> hey, there's a couple packages not in ubuntu that I need, and they happen to be in debian. Can I just add the appropriate lines to the sources.list for it to work?
[02:51] <nazgulwalker> how can i isntall w32 codes to amd64 breezy?
[02:51] <Eleaf> _jason, seriously, do you know of a way?
[02:51] <drew> nazgulwalker: they are win "32" codecs - 32 bit not 64...
[02:51] <dgibb> Specifically, tomcat, and libapache2-mod-jk
[02:51] <Eleaf> nickrud, what about you?
[02:51] <_jason> Eleaf: no, not offhand.  Did you check the online help?
[02:51] <welemski> so most packages in "main" comes along with ubunto and is fully supported by ubuntu team....
[02:51] <Eleaf> _jason, like that is any help.  They assume users don't know what ports are.
[02:51] <Eleaf> _jason, I trieds port#-port#, didn't work
[02:51] <Eleaf> it just reads the first number
[02:52] <nazgulwalker> drew : so ? can i watch wmv or mpeg or something like that format?
[02:52] <|Daemoen|> when chuckp is seen next, please tell him I apologize.
[02:52] <TR30> i haven't delt with bad superblocks on linux persa... so newer tools maybe available
[02:52] <bimberi> |Daemoen|: good on you for apologising, definitely not what an A1 would do :)
[02:52] <Dark_pahnt0m> How do I get cedega too work?????? I got it installed
[02:52] <nickrud> Eleaf, I don't have it installed, and I do remember not finding a way to do that either
[02:52] <welemski> cedega ....
[02:53] <dgibb> bimberi: do you think I can use the debian package for apache2-mod-jk?
[02:53] <welemski> cedega app.exe
[02:53] <groogs> Frogzoo: ah, thanks.
[02:53] <dgibb> bimberi: and for tomcat, for that matter?
[02:53] <Eleaf> nickrud, alright.  any reccomendations for something else I should use?
[02:53] <talios> hmm - whats happened to the #ubuntu+0 channel?
[02:53] <nazgulwalker> can i watch wmv or mpeg or something like that format? amd64(breezy)
[02:53] <Dark_pahnt0m> doesnt run acts liek itt then closes no errors
[02:53] <linuxdoesnthatem> is it possible to auto-login (no user id or password) to a linux box?
[02:53] <nickrud> Eleaf, you might want to look into shorewall. It's in main (hint) and is pretty flexible
[02:53] <Dark_pahnt0m> no its not possible
[02:53] <bimberi> dgibb: i'd try the dapper one first, download it via http://packages.ubuntu.com and try installing it using dpkg
[02:53] <linuxdoesnthatem> how about not requiring a password?
[02:54] <Eleaf> nickrud, will the two collide and mess something up if I have both shorewall and firestarter installed?
[02:54] <Eleaf> nickrud, or will it read both policies?
[02:54] <dgibb> bimberi: the dapper what? tomcat or libapache-mod-jk?
[02:54] <bimberi> linuxdoesnthatem: yes, you can configure that in System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup
[02:54] <drew> nazgulwalker: you have to run 32bit separately, try here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:54] <jcapote> how hard would it be to get gnome 2.14 on the latest ubuntu
[02:54] <Frogzoo> starpause: best way to check is 'sudo dd if=/dev/sde | od -c | less
[02:54] <nickrud> Eleaf, good question. I'd assume it'd read both, and hopefully you'd write non-conflicting rules :)
[02:54] <bimberi> dgibb: libapache2-mod-jk
[02:54] <Eleaf> nickrud, lol
[02:54] <linuxdoesnthatem> how can I set up suse to not require passwords?
[02:54] <drew> nazgulwalker: seriously - just search on ubuntu forums
[02:55] <nazgulwalker> thanks drew
[02:55] <drew> nazgulwalker: it's all there
[02:55] <Eleaf> nickrud, just for a test for now, is it possible to just simply disable the firewall?
[02:55] <dgibb> bimberi: ok
[02:55] <ddg_bluesky> brenner how do I change my firefox icon?
[02:55] <dgibb> bimberi: thanks
[02:55] <starpause> Frogzoo, what should i expect out of that?
[02:55] <Dark_pahnt0m> HOW do I remove cedega!
[02:55] <|Daemoen|> how exactly is it that sudo uses the users permissions to execute as root, including the users password?
[02:55] <bimberi> dgibb: not yet, make sure it works first :)
[02:55] <nickrud> Eleaf, sudo invoke-rc.d firestarter stop
[02:55] <_jason> linuxdoesnthatem: did you make a type?  ``suse''?
[02:55] <_jason> typo*
[02:55] <crimsun> |Daemoen|: because sudo is setuid
[02:55] <Frogzoo> TR30: if your main superblock is clobbered, you might still be able to recover with 'fsck.ext2 -b' if you can find a workable alternate superblock
[02:55] <dgibb> bimberi: true...
[02:55] <drew> when starting X for the first time (ie: on boot) my cursor is frozen until I switch to another VT and back... any clues?
[02:55] <ddg_bluesky> brenner better still were do I download it
[02:55] <linuxdoesnthatem> wrong forum
[02:56] <bimberi> linuxdoesnthatem: i was going to say...
[02:56] <nickrud> Eleaf, same command except start to reload (no gui needed, once you write the rules)
[02:56] <michael> how can I sort music files into directories based on their ID3 tags?
[02:56] <talios> is launchpad giving 500 Internal Server Errors for anyone else?
[02:56] <crimsun> michael: easytag, ex falso
[02:56] <TR30> Frogzoo, oh okay
[02:56] <jcapote> so is there a way to get gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[02:56] <talios> hey crimsun
[02:56] <Eleaf> nickrud, wha?
[02:56] <crimsun> talios: no
[02:56] <IamEthos> hey
[02:56] <_jason> talios: working here
[02:56] <Eleaf> nickrud, you mean stopping firewall will stop all firewall policies?
[02:56] <Eleaf> lol
[02:56] <crimsun> talios: (hi)
[02:56] <talios> crimsun, seems intermittent
[02:56] <Frogzoo> starpause: now remove the drive & see if the command still works ;)
[02:57] <Eleaf> nickrud, stopping firestarter*'
[02:57] <crimsun> talios: yeah, someone's playing footsies with it
[02:57] <cafuego> !test
[02:57] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[02:57] <crimsun> talios: (i.e., they're attempting to iron out bugs in it)
[02:57] <starpause> Frogzoo, perfect, it did not work :)
[02:57] <Frogzoo> starpause: cool
[02:57] <michael> crimsun, i'm confused - how do i use those?
[02:57] <AngryElf> this is really stupid........how do i specifiy "here" as in the current working directory when copying files.......i.e.  cp /pathto/file $here???
[02:58] <Fox_Mike> Hi, does anyone can tell me about ip addressing?  I have an ethernet cable modem hooked via a hub.  I try to connect an iPaq Pocket PC running Familiar Linux  via USBNET and I have trouble ping it from the PC... I think it is an IP addressing problem, does anyone can give me a cue?
[02:58] <nickrud> Eleaf, no. Once firestarter has written out firestarter.sh , invoking /etc/init.d/firestarter is how your firewall is started and stopped by the system.
[02:58] <_jason> AngryElf: with a .
[02:58] <Dark_pahnt0m> WTF nobody can help with cedega after somone here reccomended it too me.......
[02:58] <talios> crimsun, I've still got that PPPoE problem in dapper :(  hopefully now I've added more logs and a tcpdump to the ticket someone will spot something ( https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/rp-pppoe/+bug/34277 )
[02:58] <IamEthos> hey
[02:58] <AngryElf> _jason, derr, thanx :)
[02:58] <Eleaf> nickrud, ah, interesting.  Thanks, I'll try it.  /etc/init.d/firestart stop is the same right?
[02:59] <starpause> Frogzoo, i've re-inserted the card, and unmounted it again. what parameter should i pass to of= to hit sde?
[02:59] <nickrud> Eleaf, yes
[02:59] <Eleaf> as invoke.d thingy  I usually use the init.d method
[02:59] <nickrud> Eleaf, certain people here whip*encourage us to recommend invoke-rc.d :)
[02:59] <Eleaf> lol why?
[03:00] <IamEthos> for some reason I can only write to my hard drive if I open it by clicking browse from the disks window
[03:00] <ddg_bluesky> Anyone know where I can get a good firefox icon?
[03:00] <Frogzoo> starpause: /dev/sde or /dev/sde# depending
[03:00] <crimsun> talios: sorry to hear :/
[03:00] <nickrud> Eleaf, teaching the provided tools for manipulating init scripts ; another useful one is update-rc.d
[03:00] <Eleaf> humm
[03:00] <vinicius_> hi, do you use DBDesigner ?
[03:01] <talios> crimsun, yah :( I'm stuck using the windows laptop ;p  its been an interesting experience thou - all my email is gmail, calendars on 30boxes, rss is rojo - all web based, so its actually not that painfull :)
[03:01] <tazer> please help me empty my trashbin :[
[03:01] <starpause> Frogzoo, attempting "dd if=sd.dd of=/dev/sde" or /dev/sde1 both return "dd: opening '/dev/sde': Permission denied
[03:01] <nickrud> Eleaf, but I use unapproved methods often personally
[03:01] <Frogzoo_away> starpause: sudo
[03:01] <Healot> tazer "rm -rf .Trash/*"
[03:01] <pastyhermit> How do I make MP3s, I cant find anysoftware that does it!
[03:02] <sl> what is the difference between install cd and live cd?
[03:02] <jcapote> is there a way to run 2.14 on breeze?
[03:02] <jcapote> breezy*
[03:02] <LordMelkor> im trying to follow a guide on enabling direct rendering for intel grafx cards ( http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Direct_rendering_on_Intel_Extreme_Graphics_(855GM)_chipsets ) but its meant for gentoo and i cant find the equivalent directory for the first step
[03:02] <starpause> Frogzoo_away, thanks a lot for the help! it is writing i think :)
[03:02] <LordMelkor> (the one that contains the linux source?)
[03:02] <pastyhermit> jcape, sure compile it yourself
[03:02] <Eleaf> nickrud, I'm having really bad problems with ftp
[03:02] <Healot> pastyhermit, you can use L.A.M.E
[03:02] <IamEthos> hey
[03:02] <Eleaf> nickrud, are you familiar?
[03:02] <pastyhermit> LAME eh
[03:02] <pastyhermit> hrm..
[03:02] <pastyhermit> thanx I will give that a shot
[03:02] <vinicius_> exit
[03:02] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: whats your problem? I host an ftp server
[03:02] <jcapote> pastyhermit: there are no binaries
[03:02] <nickrud> Eleaf, no, I've never run ftp servers
[03:02] <LordMelkor> where is that directory in ubuntu
[03:03] <`Boo`> does anyone know if cedega or wine cost anything?
[03:03] <tazer> Healot, thanks, but it didnt work.
[03:03] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, ok cool
[03:03] <ddg_bluesky> brenner I have a firefox.png file downloaded but I can't add it to the icon because it is grayed out
[03:03] <Eleaf> nickrud, alright thanks.
[03:03] <tazer> no error message, but the items are stil there.
[03:03] <Healot> tazer, it works if you actually read how to use it
[03:03] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, alright
[03:03] <tazer> aha. mkay
[03:03] <LordMelkor> boo no they dont thats something you can find out on the internet in a matter of seconds -____-
[03:03] <LordMelkor> `boo` ^
[03:03] <IamEthos> I can only write to my hard drive (the one linux is installed on) if I go to system->administration->disks and select the partition and click browse
[03:03] <IamEthos> any idea why?
[03:04] <Healot> i've been lame(ing) for sometimes yet no problem using it
[03:04] <`Boo`> i thought they didnt, but on cedega's site there was a transgamer acct. which costs money.
[03:04] <Healot> I am L.A.M.E
[03:04] <tazer> Healot, Mind giving me a hint about where to read up on it then? :<
[03:04] <LordMelkor> `boo` cedega can be downloaded from cvs in which case its free
[03:04] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, I have this computer, I'm trying to set it up to use ftp for a distributive project.  I am able to connect to ftp fine locally on the network.  Out of the network, I am able to log in with a user name and pass.  But once I start to do a transfer, such as 'ls' to list the files it just says.  227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,0,2,130,155).
[03:04] <Eleaf>     and then ftp: connect: Connection timed out
[03:04] <Eleaf>    It times out and disconnects
[03:04] <will_> hello all
[03:04] <newbie1canoby> hello
[03:04] <`Boo`> explain? is there a ubotu about cvs?
[03:04] <FaeWolfe> hello
[03:04] <LordMelkor> `boo` normal cedega requires a transgaming subscription
[03:04] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: what is your client?
[03:04] <IamEthos> okay this is weird
[03:04] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: filezilla?
[03:05] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, I've used about 3 clients 4 so far..
[03:05] <Healot> man lame, tazer man...
[03:05] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: edit > settings > firewall settings > uncheck passive
[03:05] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: if you use filezilla
[03:05] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, 1.  the python module ftplib (used by my ckomputer)  ftp.  my friends mac
[03:05] <IamEthos> I have the same directory opened in two windows
[03:05] <devians> LordMelkor, theres a non normal cedega that doesnt? :P
[03:05] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: I have the same problem ;)
[03:05] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, huh?  as the server?
[03:05] <IamEthos> one opened via the disks window
[03:05] <NickGarvey> filezilla client
[03:05] <`Boo`> so why doesnt everyone use CVS, if cedega costs $
[03:05] <LordMelkor> devians yes
[03:05] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, that's a gui?  I don't know if I want to run a gui ;)
[03:05] <LordMelkor> devians cedegacvs
[03:05] <tazer> man rf then. okau
[03:05] <tazer> okay*
[03:05] <NickGarvey> ah
[03:05] <IamEthos> I created an HTML file in that window
[03:05] <NickGarvey> then use command line
[03:05] <Healot> lame basically takes wav/mp3 input ... just supply the wav filename and the mp3 output for encoding in default bitrate
[03:05] <devians> ah k
[03:05] <IamEthos> and it's editable and everything
[03:06] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, right now I'm using the ftp server pro-ftp.  I've tried vf-ftp (or whatever it's called) as well.
[03:06] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: use the built in ftp client in linux / mac / windows
[03:06] <IamEthos> but then the file popped up in the other window
[03:06] <IamEthos> with a big red ex
[03:06] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, client?
[03:06] <NickGarvey> vsftpd is what I use Eleaf
[03:06] <Healot> for more explanation just visit L.A.M.E website, btw you  can rip CDs and turn em into WAVE files first
[03:06] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, I'm talking about a server here
[03:06] <`Boo`> what is "devians cedegacvs" and where can i get it
[03:06] <Eleaf> not client
[03:06] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: yes, I am telling you how to take off passive with the client
[03:06] <devians> yeah games are really the only thing stopping me going to linux :/ im just waiting for it to become just a little more friendly to newbies like me
[03:06] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, I'll have to do this with every client?
[03:06] <Fox_Mike> Hello all, anyone knows about USBNET?
[03:07] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: proftp.. I'll look into it
[03:07] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, this will be a project with about 100 people connecting,.
[03:07] <ddg_bluesky> Not sure why I can't add the icon to the list of icons, can somone help
[03:07] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, that's the server
[03:07] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: if they use command line then they won't active passive most likely
[03:07] <michael> I can use exfalso to edit ID3 tags, but how do I sort the songs in that directory based on their ID3??
[03:07] <FaeWolfe> Hello, I'm wondering if someone might possibly be able to help me with some installation problems I'm having
[03:07] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, but they will be using my program to connect,  I've disabled passive transfer and tried it and the same thing happens
[03:07] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: yes I know, I am going to look into the server and see how to take off passive/support it
[03:07] <will_> anyone in here using the Linksys WPC54G wireless NIC card?
[03:07] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, here
[03:07] <LordMelkor> im trying to follow a guide on enabling direct rendering for intel grafx cards ( http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Direct_rendering_on_Intel_Extreme_Graphics_(855GM)_chipsets ) but its meant for gentoo and i cant find the equivalent directory for the first step. (the one that contains the linux source?)
[03:07] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, I'll show the error with active
[03:07] <newbie1canoby> hello
[03:08] <NickGarvey> alright
[03:08] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, this is the error with active mode
[03:08] <Eleaf> 200 PORT command successful
[03:08] <Eleaf> 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[03:08] <will_> n e 1 using the linksys wpc54g?
[03:09] <IamEthos> any idea?
[03:09] <Toki_Masa> So, I'm about to install. After I do this, what happens?
[03:09] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, I hear ftp has to use port 20 for an active connection ?!
[03:10] <Toki_Masa> I mean, when I first turn on my PC with two operating systems.
[03:10] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, I'm pretty sure that is blocked by my isp.
[03:10] <Mortuis> Is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ down?
[03:10] <Toki_Masa> Will I have to choose one OS?
[03:10] <_jason> Toki_Masa: a big explosion!  nah, you'll see a menu
[03:10] <FaeWolfe> anyone know why ubuntu  installation would just stop at 100 percent on the partitioning? (have been able to install other OS's with no problems)
[03:10] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: no I don't think so..
[03:10] <Toki_Masa> OK. And I just pick one OS (either XP or Ubuntu) and that one loads?
[03:10] <Toki_Masa> And it's all automatic?
[03:10] <NickGarvey> let me check though..
[03:10] <Toki_Masa> Like, I don't need to change settings or anything.
[03:10] <bimberi> Toki_Masa: usually.
[03:10] <Mortuis> FaeWolfe: Are you installing on a thinkpad?
[03:10] <will_> I guess I'll catch everyone later, have a good night
[03:10] <NickGarvey> I know my ISP doesn't so it works fine
[03:10] <_jason> Toki_Masa: you can pick one, or a countdown will load the default one after 10 seconds
[03:10] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, somebody told me it uses 21 and 20
[03:11] <Toki_Masa> I see. That's cool.
[03:11] <FaeWolfe> Mortuis:  no, on a pc
[03:11] <jvai> i broke down & bought 3 orinoco cards off ebay for my thinkpad 600x, the drivers r in the kernl already, works nice, but cant scan
[03:11] <Toki_Masa> Thanks guys.
[03:11] <Healot> FaeWolfe, never experienced that before... maybe fault hardware or fault installer CD?
[03:11] <will_> L8r
[03:11] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, passive uses like 4031-60591 (wow)
[03:11] <FaeWolfe> all 5 shippit cd's?
[03:11] <pianoboy3333> How do you make a shortcut/target/link to a file/executable?
[03:11] <Mortuis> FaeWolfe: I had that problem installing on a thinkpad T23, upgrading my BIOS fixed it.
[03:11] <Healot> faulty hardware then...
[03:11] <abhorsen> does the rpm command work in terminal?  I keep getting that rpm is not a terminal command. . .
[03:12] <FaeWolfe> Healot...nothing wrong with the hardware, have had it checked
[03:12] <Healot> abhorsen, install alien first, then alien will install rpm
[03:12] <abhorsen> oh, ok, simple me
[03:12] <Mortuis> FaeWolfe: How long have you let it sit at 100%?
[03:12] <Healot> FaeWolfe, state your hardwares...
[03:12] <jvai> bout 2 buy a reburb'd t40 off ibm site, hope the intergrated wifi card works flawlessly , off hoary
[03:12] <Hexidigital> anyone know where i can get working OSX themes?
[03:12] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: mm I think you are out of my range now, I just have everyone turn off passive, I couldn't get it working with vsftpd
[03:12] <_jason> Hexidigital: gnome-look.org
[03:12] <Hexidigital> thanks _jason
[03:13] <FaeWolfe> Mortuis...I've let it sit for about 30 min and nothing....
[03:13] <Mortuis> FaeWolfe: Have you tried formatting with a different OS then installing into that setup?
[03:13] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, what?
[03:13] <ddg_bluesky> are the ubuntu forums down??
[03:13] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, what ports do you forward on your router?
[03:13] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: yes
[03:13] <Mortuis> ddg_bluesky: I can't get in either
[03:13] <FaeWolfe> Mortuis...no I haven't
[03:13] <NickGarvey> heh all of them
[03:13] <NickGarvey> scan me and you will get flooded
[03:13] <Eleaf> can I try?
[03:13] <Eleaf> lol
[03:13] <ddg_bluesky> ok cool just wonder I just want to change my firefox icon to the one I download can you help?
[03:13] <NickGarvey> go ahead
[03:13] <NickGarvey> nickgarvey.no-ip.org
[03:13] <Mortuis> FaeWolfe: Maybe that's worth a try then.  Use Debian or something to do the formatting and see if Ubuntu will let you get past that step?
[03:14] <jvai> ubuntuforums r probably updating site, w/ dapper servr.. lol
[03:14] <Healot> if DSL, passive connection is required... to connect to the FTP server on the net
[03:14] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, whenever I forward ports on my router, they don't make a difference (I use no-ip too yay!)
[03:14] <jvai> it'll fly
[03:14] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, as in they don't show up
[03:14] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, I believe my isp has opened only 3 ports, nothing else can be opened
[03:14] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, 80, 22, 23
[03:14] <Eleaf> ;/
[03:14] <Mortuis> FaeWolfe: Could also flash the BIOS, but I hate doing that personally.
[03:15] <NickGarvey> ouch.. and 100 people..
[03:15] <FaeWolfe> Mortuis, would using something like partition magic to set it up to run linux work for a start?
[03:15] <NickGarvey> if it were like 5 I'd say ask them to tunnel in
[03:15] <benji> hey guys having  a bit of an issue with getting my second head on my NVIDIA Geforce 5200 FX to run as a second moniter
[03:15] <benji> any ideas?
[03:15] <bur[n] er> FaeWolfe: it would, but gparted works on teh livecd, so you don't need partition tragic
[03:15] <Healot> Eleaf, how the hell you got connected to an IRC server then, if only 20, 22, 23 are opened?
[03:15] <Mortuis> FaeWolfe: Never used Partition Magic, so I don't know.  But I want to say that I've heard of others successfully doing that.
[03:15] <IamEthos> okay
[03:15] <Eleaf> Healot, I don't know, that's all that shows up on nmap
[03:16] <LordMelkor> where is the linux kernel?
[03:16] <NickGarvey> is that all you have open?
[03:16] <IamEthos> now my taskbar and menu have disappeared while I was playing with permissions
[03:16] <Healot> Partition Magic can safely make/destroy linux/windows partitions
[03:16] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, I can't figure it out
[03:16] <michael> I used gnomad2 to transfer my songs onto my laptop, but it only recognises the first 228, is there a setting i can change to make it recognise the enitre 1080 songs??
[03:16] <ddg_bluesky> Mortuis is it possible to change an icon that is on the menu bar?
[03:16] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, whenever you forward a port, does it open that port?
[03:16] <jvai> i nmap'd myself, & i only got port 3128 open (squid)
[03:16] <bur[n] er> LordMelkor: ?  kernel.org, /boot/
[03:16] <IamEthos> how do I get them back?
[03:16] <NickGarvey> it does for me but I think my router is stupid thats why
[03:16] <FaeWolfe> thanks Mortuis and bur[n] er      will give the other OS idea a shot
[03:16] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, nmap me ethanlofton.no-ip.org
[03:16] <Healot> FaeWolfe, try using PM first, then on ubuntu's install, do not reformat the partition, just select their mount points
[03:16] <Eleaf> I have to go to dinner
[03:16] <NickGarvey> ok
[03:17] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, stay on if you can so I can talk to you lol.
[03:17] <FaeWolfe> Healot ok
[03:17] <Eleaf> later
[03:17] <Mortuis> ddg_bluesky: I think so, what icon do you want to change?
[03:17] <NickGarvey> later
[03:17] <jvai> what's the ip?
[03:17] <LordMelkor> bur[n] er isnt the kernel source somewhere in the ubuntu filesystem like it is with gentoo?
[03:17] <IamEthos> hey
[03:17] <bur[n] er> LordMelkor: /boot
[03:17] <IamEthos> can anyone assist me?
[03:17] <ddg_bluesky> Mortuis I want to change that blue firefox icon to the more modern one
[03:17] <bur[n] er> oh oh oh... source, i don't think so
[03:18] <bur[n] er> LordMelkor: apt-get install kernel-source ?
[03:18] <NickGarvey> LordMelkor: need to apt-get it
[03:18] <Healot> FaeWolfe, btw... try to plan your partitions first... draw or describe it logically first
[03:18] <NickGarvey> LordMelkor: apt-cache search linux-source
[03:18] <Mortuis> ddg_bluesky: try right clicking the icon, then selecting properties, then click on the big version of the blue icon and pick a new one from the list.
[03:18] <LordMelkor> oh ok
[03:18] <bur[n] er> rright, thanks NickGarvey
[03:18] <iGotNoTime> What is the easiest way to get a graphical wifi widget to my desktop on my laptop?
[03:19] <neurosis_> when you install firestarter is it supposed to just start automaticly or do you have to manualy start it the first time yourself?
[03:19] <Healot> IamEthos, ask question first, someone will/can assist :)
[03:19] <Mortuis> ddg_bluesky: or you can start from the other end and try modifying /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png
[03:20] <IamEthos> I was playing with the permissions on my linux partition
[03:20] <bur[n] er> IamEthos: and?
[03:20] <IamEthos> and my menu and taskbar seem to have disappeared
[03:20] <DannyBoy> Hi all
[03:20] <jvai> hey, what exactly is gtranslator, is it for languages?
[03:21] <bur[n] er> IamEthos: is gnome-panel running?
[03:21] <DannyBoy> Is ubuntuforums.org down? I cannot get to it
[03:21] <IamEthos> I don't know
[03:21] <IamEthos> I have a big empty desktop
[03:21] <IamEthos> I can only see the windows that I have open
[03:21] <_jason> DannyBoy: yes
[03:21] <benji> DannyBoy: i think so
[03:21] <jvai> gtranslator = language translator?
[03:21] <IamEthos> I can change between the windows with Alt+tab still
[03:21] <NickGarvey> IamEthos: open console and type ps ax | grep gnome-panel
[03:22] <techrush> are the forums down ?
[03:22] <_jason> techrush: yes
[03:22] <techrush> k
[03:22] <techrush> bummer
[03:22] <DannyBoy> thanx
[03:22] <Jaga> noob question. sorry. I broke my sound support by dicking about with some setting or other. I forget which. How can I go about getting it working again...?
[03:22] <Healot> jvai, it's the PO editor (you can edit GNOME language resource), it doesn't do translation though, you do
[03:23] <IamEthos> how do I open a console with out any menus?
[03:23] <NickGarvey> IamEthos: alt f2
[03:23] <_jason> IamEthos: alt+f2 and type gnome-terminal
[03:23] <jvai> oooh ty healot, it's a pragramming translator! lmao
[03:23] <Healot> Ctrl+Alt+F<x> for tty's
[03:23] <NickGarvey> what is the difference between console and terminal?
[03:24] <Kyral> none
[03:24] <Kyral> anymore
[03:24] <gtwirth> can someone help me with nvidia video cards with tv out I am new to linux so I need major help
[03:24] <Healot> !nvidia
[03:24] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:24] <Joetheodd> Hey guys, I just got word from _jason that ubuntuforums.org are down. Might wanna update the topic of whatever.
[03:24] <NickGarvey> !nvidea
[03:24] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[03:24] <Healot> there you fo gtwirth
[03:24] <NickGarvey> not only was I slower but I had a typo
[03:24] <IamEthos> yeah, alt+f2 isn't doing anything
[03:25] <NickGarvey> ok then ctrl alt f2
[03:25] <DannyBoy> Who is NickServer? He just told me my nick is owned by someone else??
[03:25] <gtwirth> !nvidia
[03:25] <Healot> that should pops up the run dialog
[03:25] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:25] <NickGarvey> DannyBoy: he a bot, and that means someone else registered your name and can take it back from you whenever they wish
[03:25] <Healot> DannyBoy, your nick is registered to someone else...
[03:26] <Kyral> DannyBoy: NickServ is a bot that helps regulate Freenode
[03:26] <IdleOne> DannyBoy, Nickserv is a service provide on freenode.net that nick is probably registered by someone else
[03:26] <bimberi> IamEthos: right-click and create a launcher with the command 'gnome-terminal'
[03:26] <braniff> how do i make a script run at startup??
[03:26] <mzinz> Whats everyone here think of BMPx vs XMMS?
[03:26] <Kyral> I use Amorak
[03:26] <Kyral> or however its spelled
[03:26] <DannyBoy> Thanx :) I'm new to this whole IRC deal :)
[03:27] <Kyral> I haven't tried BMPx
[03:27] <Kyral> but BMP was basically a GTK2 facelift to XMMS
[03:27] <bmp> what
[03:27] <bmp> huh
[03:27] <bmp> what'dIdo
[03:28] <mzinz> Kyral, i see, thanks.
[03:28] <Fox_Mike> Hello all, anyone knows about USBNET?
[03:28] <NickGarvey> haha
[03:28] <Kyral> lol bmp we were talking about Beep Media Player (commonly referred to as BMP)
[03:28] <bmp> ah.
[03:28] <bmp> how is that proggy anyway?
[03:28] <bmp> never used it.
[03:28] <mzinz> Kyral, Lol.
[03:28] <Kyral> Winamp clone
[03:28] <mzinz> bmp, it looks pretty good, bmpx does.
[03:28] <IdleOne> !tell bmp about enter
[03:29] <Joetheodd> yay for _jason!
[03:29] <DaneeBoy> Can I ask how to change my default MP3 handler?
[03:29] <perezidentt> how do i unblock my port so I can ftp into my box?
[03:29] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[03:29] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[03:29] <DaneeBoy> thanx
[03:29] <saxifrage`> is gedit 2.14 available for breezy?
[03:29] <bimberi> DaneeBoy: yw :)
[03:29] <nalioth> DaneeBoy: right click on the mp3 and right click > properties and do the open with thing
[03:31] <sid> Hi room
[03:31] <rgiskard> Hi!
[03:31] <FunnyLookinHat> helloes
[03:31] <juztin> how do i install files of type .run ?
[03:31] <trace> sid: hello
[03:31] <FunnyLookinHat> juztin, sudo sh filename
[03:31] <mzinz> This link has bmpx.. i can't figure out how to DL it though...: http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/Downloads
[03:31] <juztin> FunnyLookinHat, thanks :)
[03:31] <FunnyLookinHat> np
[03:31] <sid> got problem with sound after I installed a new kernel
[03:32] <rukuartic> sid: boot on the old one P
[03:32] <crimsun> sid: uname -r
[03:32] <sid> ok
[03:32] <mzinz> Kyral, did you check out that link by chance?
[03:32] <sid> 2.6.16-ck1
[03:32] <juztin> FunnyLookinHat, that gave me Uncompressing Unreal Tournament version 436 Linux installtrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 
[03:32] <Kyral> huh?
[03:32] <crimsun> sid: ...we don't support that.
[03:32] <Kyral> why would I
[03:33] <crimsun> Kyral: obviously you know!
[03:33] <sid> ok:)
[03:33] <FunnyLookinHat> juztin, type ls and see if something showed up
[03:33] <Kyral> He wants me to package it...
[03:33] <crimsun> sid: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[03:33] <Titan> I tell you what. I switched to Ubuntu about 1 week ago and I have not started windoze since. Had to work a little to get WoW to run just right with no glitches, but I dare say I may never start windoze on this PC again.
[03:33] <mzinz> Kyral, i was j/w.. its a link that shows a link to the DL site for BMPx but I can't figure out how to apt-get it
[03:33] <FunnyLookinHat> juztin, otherwise, it looks lke the script you are running might have an error in it
[03:33] <Kyral> Its not in dapper repos
[03:33] <juztin> FunnyLookinHat, nope
[03:33] <juztin> FunnyLookinHat, k....i'll download it again somewhere else...thanks :)
[03:33] <trace> anyone know how to fix ths error: FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-19-386/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): No such device
[03:33] <trace> trace@blackie:~$
[03:33] <trace> ?
[03:33] <crimsun> trace: need _much_ more info.
[03:34] <mzinz> Kyral, I know, that link has a link to it but im not sure how to get it to DL right
[03:34] <Metaltron> Does anyone know how to make a hard drive stop shutting itself down after an hour or so of use? There's no options in the Power Management about it.
[03:34] <trace> crimsun: hello you were helping me this morning
[03:34] <crimsun> trace: no recollection, sorry. Very poor memory, too many things to do at once.
[03:34] <Kyral> mzinz: download the DebPack and install it
[03:34] <braniff> how do i make a script run last at boottime in breezy ?????
[03:34] <bimberi> Metaltron: a setting in the bios perhaps?
[03:34] <Joetheodd> Is there a version of ubuntu available that's bleeding-edge and needs testing?
[03:34] <crimsun> "dapper"
[03:35] <trace> I'm getting no sound on a ibm600e
[03:35] <blair> will it be fairly easy to upgrade from badger to dapper? its just an apt-get to do it right?
[03:35] <bimberi> !tell Joetheodd about dapper
[03:35] <Metaltron> bimberi: it has been disabled for a looong time in bios
[03:35] <crimsun> trace: is snd-cs46xx loaded?
[03:35] <bimberi> Metaltron: kk
[03:35] <crimsun> trace: guess not. Ok, did you pass the correct params to modprobe?
[03:35] <Joetheodd> Thanks bimberi
[03:35] <trace> crimsun: no ts not
[03:36] <bimberi> Joetheodd: np :)
[03:36] <Joetheodd> bimberi, when it comes out will it be stable enough to use as a desktop OS for a power user?
[03:36] <liquidboy> ive installed fsviewer, but when i type "fsviewer" in a terminal, i come up with "fsviewer warning: ICONDIR not found: /usr/GNUstep/Apps/FSViewer.app
[03:36] <liquidboy> "
[03:36] <bimberi> Joetheodd: absolutely
[03:36] <trace> crimsun: how do i pass params to modprobe?
[03:37] <x`y`-xy> how can delete a directory in linux pls
[03:37] <Jeffrae> hi All
[03:37] <ron_> rm
[03:37] <bimberi> x`y`-xy: rmdir (if it's empty) rm -r (if it's not)
[03:37] <Jeffrae> rm
[03:37] <blair> bimberi, its possible to upgrade from badger to dapper right? im not going to have to reinstall?
[03:37] <x`y`-xy> thx
[03:38] <bimberi> blair: yes you will.  In fact a "dist-upgrader" app is being tested for just that purpose ...
[03:38] <bimberi> !tell blair about upgrade
[03:38] <nalioth> blair: debian based linux distros are all able to upgrade seamlessly
[03:39] <blair> thanks a lot
[03:39] <crimsun> trace: sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 isapnp=0 [..] 
[03:39] <bimberi> blair: yw :)
[03:40] <RememberPOL> Hey does anyone know any really good FAX sending software?
[03:40] <trace>  crimsun: one sec
[03:41] <trace> crimsun:  I get  Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-19-386/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): No such device
[03:41] <crimsun> trace: did you unload snd_cs46xx first?
[03:41] <trace> crimsun: how do I do that?
[03:42] <crimsun> sudo modprobe -r snd_cs46xx
[03:42] <Jeffrae> hi
[03:42] <Jeffrae> has anyone here messed with lirc?
[03:42] <trace> crimsun: one sec
[03:42] <sean> is slackware in the synaptic?
[03:42] <pvd2006> How can you get firestarter to run automatically on Ubuntu even after restarting? I am using a PPPOE ADSL connection.
[03:42] <Jeffrae> why do I need to compile the modules?  That also involves downloading the latest kernel source and etc
[03:42] <TR30> pvd2006, firestarter had an autostart option
[03:42] <TR30> had/has
[03:42] <trace> crimsun: stll get same erroe
[03:43] <juztin> sean, are you serious?
[03:43] <crimsun> trace: expected
[03:43] <sean> wha
[03:43] <BadMuthaPhucka> juztin, i think sean is really clueless
[03:43] <pvd2006> sean, slackware is a different linux operating system than Ubuntu.
[03:43] <juztin> lol
[03:43] <BadMuthaPhucka> sean.. you want to install slackware using synaptic?
[03:43] <sean> haha right
[03:43] <corvax> working
[03:43] <corvax> ty
[03:43] <BadMuthaPhucka> oh man... that is so fn pathetic...
[03:44] <sean> i thought it was a window manager sry
[03:44] <BadMuthaPhucka> that should go to bash.org
[03:44] <juztin> sean, if you didnt know that....you might wanna steer _way_ clear of slackware :D
[03:44] <bimberi> !conduct
[03:44] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:44] <BadMuthaPhucka> someone please post that...
[03:44] <juztin> BadMuthaPhucka, don't be insulting...he's new
[03:44] <TR30> pvd2006, also firestarter runs in the background automatically during boot.. just because not user interface is present doesn't mean its not running
[03:44] <BadMuthaPhucka> juztin, .. insulting? what did I say?
[03:44] <pvd2006> tr30, do you know the process name? I used ps -e and I didnt see it
[03:45] <juztin> BadMuthaPhucka, pathetic...that's kinda mean :)
[03:45] <crimsun> trace: pastebin ``cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:05/resources''
[03:45] <BadMuthaPhucka> oh...
[03:45] <TR30> pvd2006, try ps -A | grep firestarter
[03:45] <pvd2006> alright thanks
[03:45] <juztin> we were all n00bs once lol
[03:45] <crimsun> trace: also pastebin ``cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:06/resources''
[03:45] <IamEthos> okay
[03:45] <BadMuthaPhucka> must have been my evil finger typing...
[03:45] <juztin> actually...i'm still pretty n00b
[03:45] <IamEthos> I still can't write to my linux partition unless I open it from the System->Administration->Disks menu
[03:45] <pvd2006> tr30, nothing showed up.
[03:45] <BadMuthaPhucka> so it appears
[03:46] <IamEthos> if I just browse to it
[03:46] <IamEthos> using the places menu, for example
[03:46] <IamEthos> it won't let me open or write files
[03:46] <BadMuthaPhucka> IamEthos, .. you have a linux partition marked read-only?
[03:46] <TR30> pvd2006, did you set firestarter to start automatically in options?
[03:46] <trace> crimsun: paste into term?
[03:46] <pvd2006> let me check
[03:46] <DaneeBoy> another quick newbie questions.. I've tried making opera the default for links.. Firefox is still handling them..In the default apps I've put opera %s do I need to drop the %s?
[03:46] <IamEthos> nope
[03:46] <crimsun> trace: type those commands in a term, paste the output on pastebin
[03:46] <IamEthos> at least not that I chose to do
[03:47] <IamEthos> I created the partition with partition magic
[03:47] <Jeffrae> how safe is it to compile a kernel module for a newbie?
[03:47] <IamEthos> and installed ubuntu to it
[03:47] <IamEthos> I can write to it
[03:47] <Jeffrae> I need a piece of software that is only offered in source
[03:47] <TR30> Danee, right click a URL and select properties then goto the menu "open with"
[03:47] <pastyhermit> Jeffrae, not at all
[03:47] <crimsun> Jeffrae: it should be fairly straight-forward if the source supports module-assistant
[03:47] <BadMuthaPhucka> Jeffrae, shouldnt be a problem
[03:47] <IamEthos> but not by clicking places->computer->file system
[03:47] <pastyhermit> Jeffrae, what is it
[03:47] <trace> crimsun: says  : state = active
[03:47] <trace> io 0x60-0x60
[03:47] <trace> io 0x64-0x64
[03:47] <trace> irq 1
[03:47] <IamEthos> like you would expect
[03:47] <Jeffrae> lirc-modules-source
[03:47] <DaneeBoy> Thax, tr30
[03:47] <OpopanaxGentoo> hello, all, is this the right place for ubuntu support?
[03:48] <crimsun> trace: is that for 5 or 6?
[03:48] <IamEthos> I have to go to system->administration->disks, then select the disk and click browse
[03:48] <trace> crimsun: 5
[03:48] <pastyhermit> Jeffrae, you should be able to compile it without recompiling your kernel
[03:48] <Jeffrae> pastyhermit, lirc-modules-source
[03:48] <TR30> sure thing OpopanaxGentoo
[03:48] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:48] <OpopanaxGentoo> looks like it.
[03:48] <BadMuthaPhucka> IamEthos, check /etc/fstab and edit it accordingly
[03:48] <trace> crimsun:  state = active
[03:48] <trace> irq 12
[03:48] <trace> crimsun: for 6
[03:48] <Jeffrae> pastyhermit, does it just need the kernel source for some includes or something?
[03:48] <OpopanaxGentoo> i'm an experienced linux user, but I'm trying to get the linuxant modem driver installed for a friend
[03:48] <pvd2006> tr30, there we go... I had it only checked on start on program startup, lol. So now it should work all the time.
[03:48] <jacob_> is a .deb file like a compressed file or something?
[03:48] <crimsun> trace: ok, try this: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload
[03:49] <TR30> pvd2006, yes.. it should work
[03:49] <BadMuthaPhucka> jacob... it's an installer file
[03:49] <OpopanaxGentoo> the cnxtinstall.run file keeps exiting out saying that "elif" is an unexpected token.
[03:49] <jacob_> how do i install it?
[03:49] <BadMuthaPhucka> jacob.. it contains a script that knos how to install an app..
[03:49] <bimberi> !deb
[03:49] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:49] <BadMuthaPhucka> jacob... either by console ... dpkg -i <package.deb>
[03:49] <BadMuthaPhucka> or use nautilus...
[03:49] <OpopanaxGentoo> I tried getting rid of the offending lines in the bash script, but, of course, the md5sum doesn't work, and the script exits out because I changed it.
[03:49] <pvd2006> tr30, I notice that my friend can run nmap on me and see my open ports still using the -P0 option with nmap. Is there a way to block that you know of?
[03:49] <Francisco> hello wverybody
[03:49] <michael> what's the pastebin link?
[03:49] <trace> crimsun:  get this invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/alsa not found.
[03:50] <crimsun> trace: are you using dapper?
[03:50] <trace> crimsun: yes
[03:50] <IamEthos> what am I looking for?
[03:50] <crimsun> trace: pastebin the output from ``lsmod''
[03:50] <OpopanaxGentoo> he's using 32-bit breezy
[03:50] <crimsun> !tell trace about pastebin
[03:50] <TR30> pvd2006, probably tell firestarter to block all ICMP ports
[03:50] <Francisco> when I red the ifconfig of mu lan say that my radio is off. how can I turn on this??
[03:50] <IamEthos> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    user_xattr,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:50] <IamEthos> that's the line
[03:50] <michael> !tell michael about pastebin
[03:51] <OpopanaxGentoo> the funny thing is that I used this same darned script on another breezy install, and i just don't get it.
[03:51] <Jeffrae> has anyone here compiled lirc modules before??
[03:51] <TR30> pvd2006, but that's just an educated guess
[03:51] <michael> WHAT IS THE PASTEBIN LINK??????
[03:51] <tristanmike> !pastebin
[03:51] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[03:51] <Francisco> when I red the ifconfig of mu lan say that my radio is off. how can I turn on this??
[03:51] <tristanmike> !tell michael about caps
[03:51] <pvd2006> tr30, thanks ill test it.
[03:51] <tristanmike> !caps
[03:51] <ubotu> caps is, like, FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[03:52] <IamEthos> this line is in fstab for the hard drive that I have linux installed on
[03:52] <IamEthos> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    user_xattr,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:52] <IamEthos> is that a problem?
[03:52] <michael> Don't tell me about caps, tell me about pastebin
[03:52] <crimsun> michael: it was told to you multiple times.
[03:52] <michael> where?
[03:53] <abhorsen> ok, im going to ask a question.  when I am on terminal, I try to execute a jar file, and it says unable to execute a bianary file. . . whats wrong?
[03:53] <crimsun> in private query, in the channel, just read, man.
[03:53] <Jeffrae> I can seam to find any instruction for lirc-modules and ubuntu?  I have just started out by downloading the kernel source
[03:53] <TR30> pvd2006, sorry that probably wont work.. misunderstood your quesetion. Is your friend on the same network as you?
[03:53] <IdleOne> Jeffrae, I dont know if this is what your looking for but it is in the repos : lirc-modules-source
[03:53] <michael> ok, found it... sorry
[03:53] <pvd2006> tr30, no
[03:53] <pvd2006> he isnt
[03:53] <Jeffrae> IdleOne, I got that
[03:53] <Jeffrae> IdleOne, I just don't know how to go about compiling it
[03:54] <IdleOne> Jeffrae, sudo apt-get install lirc-modules-source  will install it for you
[03:54] <Francisco> when I red the ifconfig of mu lan say that my radio is off. how can I turn on this??
[03:54] <Francisco> when I red the ifconfig of mu lan say that my radio is off. how can I turn on this??
[03:54] <crimsun> trace: please hurry, I have to leave in 6 minutes
[03:54] <Jeffrae> no it just put the source in my usr/src/ di
[03:54] <Jeffrae> dir
[03:54] <IdleOne> !tell Francisco about patience
[03:54] <bthornton> Is there anything wrong with/Is it a bad idea to change the gid of a group name by manually editing /etc/group ?
[03:54] <Jeffrae> IdleOne, Doing that just put some source in my usr/src/modules/lirc dir
[03:54] <TR30> pvd2006, there isn't any way to stealth open ports. Sorry for the lag
[03:55] <bthornton> All I'm trying to change is the gid number--not the name.
[03:55] <abhorsen> can someone answer my question?? I dont have much time. . .
[03:55] <trace> crimsun: did you get it?
[03:55] <IdleOne> Jeffrae, sorry I dont know how it works just know that it's there :/
[03:55] <crimsun> trace: url?
[03:55] <pvd2006> Oh ok, that is what I Thought:-\
[03:55] <Jeffrae> its cool
[03:55] <trace> i used that thing you sent me
[03:55] <Jeffrae> IdleOne, thanks... I wish that was all I had to do hehe.. This bad boy needs to be compiled for some reason..
[03:55] <pvd2006> tr30, I only have one port called RPCBIND open, I dont think that is dangerous.
[03:56] <trace> patebin
[03:56] <IdleOne> Jeffrae, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic about compiling that
[03:56] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:56] <crimsun> trace: next time please tell me the url, thanks
[03:56] <nazty> hi
[03:56] <IamEthos> can anyone tell me what this means?
[03:56] <IamEthos> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    user_xattr,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:56] <Francisco> when I red the ifconfig of mu lan say that my radio is off. how can I turn on this??
[03:56] <nazty> how do i change the background color in gnome terminal?
[03:56] <trace> crimsun: where does it say url at?
[03:57] <crimsun> trace: the url is the actual URL in your Web browser's location box
[03:57] <Francisco> my lan has txpower off and the radio off too how can I turn it on.??
[03:57] <Francisco> my lan has txpower off and the radio off too how can I turn it on.??
[03:57] <trace> crimsun: ooo  ok  ott it
[03:57] <seekr> abhorsen - don't know the details, but *.jar files are java-runtimes, i think, so you can't just execute them like a.outs
[03:57] <TR30> nazty, right click the terminal screen edit profile
[03:57] <_nano_> Hi I want to install Gnome 2.14 on my breezy badger. How do I do that?
[03:57] <crimsun> trace: try this in a terminal: sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 port=0x530 cport=0x538 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=0 isapnp=0
[03:57] <abhorsen> ok, thanks
[03:58] <nazty> oh ok thanks TR
[03:58] <saif> hello, can i change the name of my wireless interface from eth1 to wlan0?
[03:58] <_nano_> Has any one installed Gnome 2.14?
[03:58] <nazty> TR: can i make it translucent?
[03:59] <nazty> i got it thanks
[03:59] <morfeus> 00:AA:CA:45:D8:29  <--this is the correct syntax with colon every two character, now how do i check if in one-liner command that is has the right colon placed and no other non-alphanumeric written?
[03:59] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10606
[03:59] <mark105> im trying to get ubuntu running on a compaq smart array but cant get it to boot from it
[03:59] <TR30> nazty, try xfce4-terminal too.. has lots of cool features
[03:59] <nazty> so its better the gterm?
[04:00] <OpopanaxGentoo> yo britches
[04:00] <nazty> i heard eterm was good
[04:00] <IamEthos> can anyone help me with something?
[04:00] <IamEthos> I don't think it will take long...
[04:00] <TR30> nazty, my favorite is xterm... better is relative to what your want ( at the time your during it ) :-D
[04:00] <Francisco> my lan has txpower off and the radio off too how can I turn it on.??
[04:00] <Francisco> my lan has txpower off and the radio off too how can I turn it on.??
[04:00] <Francisco> my lan has txpower off and the radio off too how can I turn it on.??
[04:00] <Francisco> my lan has txpower off and the radio off too how can I turn it on.??
[04:00] <Francisco> my lan has txpower off and the radio off too how can I turn it on.??
[04:00] <IdleOne> !ops
[04:00] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[04:00] <OpopanaxGentoo> Britches is the dude i'm helping with the modem--i found the .deb for him, we'll see if that works.
[04:00] <crimsun> Francisco: dude, chill
[04:00] <nazty> hehehe true
[04:01] <benplaut> Francisco: don't do that
[04:01] <michael> how do I put the output of a command into a file
[04:01] <_frank> michael: command > filename
[04:01] <NickGarvey> command > file.txt
[04:01] <nazty> is there a key bind for run?
[04:01] <NickGarvey> nazty: alt f2
[04:01] <nazty> cool
[04:02] <matsur> hi all, when i connect my ipod via firewire now it doesnt mount
[04:02] <matsur> it used to in the past
[04:02] <nazty> wow the color is ugly in term's
[04:02] <pvd2006> is there anything new in gnome 2.14 to upgrade it from 2.12?
[04:02] <pvd2006> important enough
[04:02] <mark105> any one got ubuntu on a raided box?
[04:02] <MikeStyle> hey guys can i get someone's sources.list that has alot of good apps on it including fluxbox?
[04:02] <_nano_> there are significant performance improvements
[04:02] <nazty> TR: anyway to fix the color so its thin?
[04:02] <_nano_> at least that's what I read
[04:02] <_nano_> never tried it
[04:02] <IdleOne> !tell MikeStyle about easysource
[04:02] <nalioth> Francisco: please don't do that.
[04:02] <pvd2006> hmmm
[04:03] <benplaut> pvd2006: not really, but from breezy to dapper? definately, once it's released
[04:03] <crimsun> trace: please pastebin ``cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:05/resources     cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:06/resources
[04:03] <crimsun> [edit] 
[04:03] <MikeStyle> idleOne...im not interested in creating my own, i just need the repo deb line for fluxbox
[04:03] <_nano_> pvd2006, check this url http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/
[04:03] <matsur> hmmm the ipod isnt showing up in /dev but it is charging
[04:03] <IamEthos> can anyone tell me what this fstab entry means
[04:03] <pvd2006> nano_, thanks
[04:03] <IamEthos> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    user_xattr,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:03] <pvd2006> Benplaut, Ill check t hat out
[04:03] <nalioth> MikeStyle: flux is in the repos
[04:04] <IdleOne> MikeStyle, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[04:04] <MikeStyle> nalioth its not showing up in synaptic
[04:04] <ladofnod> mp4 video codec help?
[04:04] <nalioth> ladofnod: ask a question
[04:05] <nalioth> MikeStyle: /msg ubotu info fluxbox
[04:05] <Mischevious> is smp kernel better for a celeron 1ghz
[04:05] <Mischevious> ?
[04:05] <Mischevious> i know it runs great on my 3ghz p4 /w ht.
[04:05] <nalioth> Mischevious: smp kernels are for dual core or dual processor machines
[04:05] <ladofnod> nalioth: i've tried about everything i can to play mp4 in gxine or mplayer. what can you suggest to get it up and running?
[04:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ladofnod about restricted
[04:05] <trace> crimsun: takes me to a ">" prompt
[04:05] <Mischevious> nalioth, oh, but it says celeron
[04:05] <crimsun> trace: you're missing the closing ''
[04:05] <mark105> help with compaq smart array please, box wont boot from it cause it loads the kernel but sez the device doesnt exist
[04:05] <crimsun> trace: I'll be back in 15 minutes
[04:05] <Mischevious> nalioth, they don't have dual core celeron's i don't think ..?
[04:06] <trace> crimsun: ok
[04:06] <nalioth> Mischevious: unless you are running a dualcore proc or have 2 procs on the mobo, you don't need smp
[04:06] <Mischevious> nalioth, okay
[04:06] <nathanj> OH NOES! http://nathan.bur.st/s1.jpg
[04:06] <Grark> Having problem playing streams in rythmbox.  www.9412.com specifically.
[04:07] <Grark> "unexpected end of stream"
[04:07] <Grark> works in VLC though
[04:07] <Hexidigital> !splash screen
[04:07] <ubotu> Hexidigital: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:07] <Grark> but then I can't select the default sound device being my usb headset :\
[04:07] <pvd2006> whats the best way to update Gnome in Ubuntu?
[04:07] <Mischevious> Grark, set it in alsamixer
[04:08] <IdleOne> !tell Hexidigital about usplash
[04:08] <Jeffrae> is it just me or ar eubuntu forums always down for upgrading? :)
[04:08] <Grark> ok Mischevious where is alsamixer?
[04:08] <Hexidigital> thanks Idleone
[04:08] <SysFail> anybody have a link to the Automatix script thing??
[04:08] <IdleOne> Hexidigital, yup
[04:08] <nalioth> pvd2006: pay attention to it, it'll tell you when there is updates
[04:08] <IdleOne> !automatix
[04:08] <nalioth> !automatix
[04:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:08] <_frank> Jeffrae: they are now but it's the first time I notice
[04:08] <Grark> :)
[04:09] <Jeffrae> ahh last time I tried lookign up lirc stuff it was down
[04:09] <SysFail> cant find it anyplace since the forums are down
[04:09] <_frank> SysFail: Easyubuntu is a safer idea
[04:09] <Jeffrae> Oh well
[04:09] <IdleOne> !tell SysFail about easyubuntu
[04:09] <SysFail> ok
[04:10] <jayg> is dapper stable enough to install on hd?
[04:10] <Jeffrae> !tell jeffrae about easyubuntu
[04:10] <jayg> as my soundcard works on it!
[04:10] <perezidentt> can anyone recomend a good video editing software?
[04:10] <NickGarvey> Jeffrae: use /msg ubotu <command> instead
[04:10] <Jeffrae> just foudn that out :)
[04:11] <Grark> got it
[04:11] <nathanj> !easyubunutu
[04:11] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nathanj
[04:11] <nalioth> !tell nathanj about msg the bot
[04:11] <arrinmurr> perezidentt: i guess cinelerra is best there is
[04:11] <nathanj> :P
[04:11] <GUIPEnguin> easyubuntu? how much easre can it get? lol
[04:11] <IdleOne> nathanj, /msg ubotu easyubntu   < notice the correct spelling :P
[04:12] <IdleOne> lmao
[04:12] <IdleOne> I typoed
[04:12] <nathanj> yeh
[04:12] <IdleOne> well you know what I meant
[04:12] <IamEthos> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    user_xattr,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:12] <IamEthos> ^ can anyone help me with that?
[04:12] <_jason> IdleOne: nice one :)
[04:12] <MikeStyle> hey guys, just installed fluxbox and my menu isnt configured...whats the menu configuration command?
[04:12] <nathanj> my life is over http://nathan.bur.st/s1.jpg
[04:12] <juztin> how do i unmount my cdrom?
[04:13] <IdleOne> _jason, I try. I dont always succeed but I try
[04:13] <Grark> alsamixer is up...how do I switch devices?
[04:13] <nalioth> MikeStyle: alacarte
[04:13] <MikeStyle> alacarte?
[04:13] <nalioth> !alacarte
[04:13] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[04:13] <OpopanaxGentoo> you still here, Britches ?
[04:13] <bimberi> alacarte for flux?
[04:14] <_jason> MikeStyle: you have to edit ~/.fluxbox/menu
[04:14] <MikeStyle> nalioth...it doesnt need an editor,..its suppose to configure automatically like it did last time
[04:14] <nalioth> MikeStyle: what exactly are you after?
[04:14] <MikeStyle> nalioth just need my apps
[04:14] <MikeStyle> _jason i didnt have to do that before...
[04:14] <AngryElf> what's a single command to play a dvd in xine?
[04:14] <MikeStyle> my last install of flux went perfect
[04:14] <nalioth> MikeStyle: fluxbox menus are text documents
[04:14] <NickGarvey> nathanj: is that windows I see?!?!
[04:14] <nazty> did anyone see novell linux 10 XGL?
[04:15] <_jason> MikeStyle: oh, maybe there is some app.  That's how i always do it
[04:15] <jayg> is dapper stable enough to install on hd ?
[04:15] <nalioth> jayg: wait for the Release Candidate
[04:15] <MikeStyle> _jason maybe it last time picked up my blackbox config file...this time i dont have blackbox or openbox installed...could that be it?
[04:15] <jayg> in june?
[04:15] <Fracture> nalioth: when is the release candidate coming out ?
[04:15] <juztin> how do i unmount my cdrom?
[04:16] <nalioth> jayg: no, the RC should be out in late april or early may
[04:16] <IamEthos> anyone?
[04:16] <jayg> breezy hates my system, latest release actually works with everything, which im amazed at
[04:16] <NickGarvey> umount /location_of_cd
[04:16] <_jason> MikeStyle: if you have the debian menu then your fluxbox menu should have all your apps that the debian menu has
[04:16] <NickGarvey> !fstab
[04:17] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[04:17] <_jason> MikeStyle: at least I think that is how it works
[04:17] <MikeStyle> _jason i dont have anything except xterm, restard, and exit in my menu
[04:17] <NickGarvey> !tell IamEthos about partitions
[04:17] <dgriffin> i'm running dapper for the newer apps and thus far have experienced only minor problems, nothing even worth mentioning
[04:17] <nalioth> MikeStyle: install "menu"
[04:17] <MikeStyle> brb ill restart really quick
[04:17] <jayg> seems to be running fine here so far from live cd
[04:17] <bhursey> how long are the forums down for?
[04:17] <michael> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10609
[04:17] <_jason> MikeStyle: install the package nalioth mentioned and then regenerate the fluxbox menu
[04:17] <jayg> ok it crashed when i changed the hz on the display, but thats it
[04:18] <juztin> how do i unmount my cdrom?
[04:18] <nalioth> bhursey: join #ubuntuforums and ask
[04:18] <bhursey> sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[04:18] <juztin> ty bhursey
[04:18] <bhursey> =)
[04:18] <bimberi> juztin: another method - right-click on its icon and select eject
[04:18] <bhursey> or that
[04:19] <juztin> i don't have an icon, i'm running xfce...but thanks anyway :)
[04:19] <bhursey> sorry im old school
[04:19] <bimberi> juztin: kk :)
[04:19] <nathanj> NickGarvey: im @ work
[04:19] <bhursey> ya juztin use the unmout comand
[04:19] <Grark> anyone know how to install all the codecs for rythmbox?
[04:19] <IamEthos> NickGravey
[04:19] <bhursey> say you have a dvd it could be mapted to /dev/dvd
[04:19] <Jeffrae> Has anyone here used lirc?
[04:19] <juztin> bhursey, done...wokred....good lookin out, thanks :)
[04:19] <IamEthos> umm
[04:19] <michael> I want to put the ./configure output into a file, how do I do that?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10609          ?????????
[04:19] <bimberi> !tell Grark about restricted
[04:19] <IamEthos> but what does the line in there mean?
[04:19] <bhursey> normaly the is a symbolic link from /dev/cdrom->/dev/dvd
[04:20] <NickGarvey> IamEthos: in where
[04:20] <crimsun> trace: back. Got the output?
[04:20] <nalioth> michael: ./configure > filename
[04:20] <MikeStyle> huh wierd,,...openbox shows a menu but fluxbox doesnt
[04:20] <IamEthos> in fstab
[04:20] <bhursey> juztin: glad I could help
[04:20] <IamEthos> user_xattr,errors=remount-ro
[04:20] <trace> crimsun: yes
[04:20] <IamEthos> that part of it
[04:20] <n4cht> Grark,  most of them are quite illegal, so if you're inside the US, you ... well.. don't.   If you're outside the US, try automatix.
[04:20] <michael> that doesn't wrk though  -->
[04:20] <trace> crimsun: one sec
[04:20] <Jeffrae> michael the same way you do it in MDDOS or PCDOS
[04:20] <crimsun> trace: url?
[04:20] <bhursey> Yo know how to munt right?
[04:20] <larsemil> how do i enable my portmapper to allow other hosts then localhost?
[04:20] <nalioth> n4cht: please don't do that
[04:20] <michael> i've never used DOS
[04:20] <nalioth> !automatix
[04:20] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:21] <Jeffrae> michael ok then windows
[04:21] <IamEthos> also
[04:21] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10608
[04:21] <IamEthos> what do I have to change to prevent linux from recognizing certain partitions
[04:21] <IamEthos> like my Windows partition
[04:21] <Jeffrae> or AS400's QSHELL
[04:21] <michael> in windows, i never needed to copy output into a file
[04:21] <Jeffrae> oh ok
[04:21] <_jason> MikeStyle: try running fluxbox-generate_menu
[04:21] <crimsun> trace: hmm, doesn't look like it's active at all
[04:22] <n4cht> nalioth, do what?
[04:22] <Grark> There was another one, not automatix
[04:22] <Jeffrae> why are some modules only offered as sourcE?
[04:22] <nalioth> n4cht: don't recommend automatix, please
[04:22] <crimsun> trace: echo 'activate' | sudo tee /sys/devices/pnp0/00:05/resources
[04:22] <Grark> n4cht, my problem is with a stream off of 9412.com
[04:22] <Jeffrae> to accound for differences from PCt o PC?
[04:22] <Grark> so I don't see how it's illegal :)
[04:22] <trace> crimsun: 1 sec
[04:22] <crimsun> trace: then, echo 'activate' | sudo tee /sys/devices/pnp0/00:06/resources
[04:23] <n4cht> nalioth, sure.  i'll just let everyone on the official ubuntu forums do it for me then.  ;)
[04:23] <Jeffrae> Grark , because you down't own the codec..
[04:23] <nalioth> n4cht: there are no official ubuntu forums.
[04:23] <nazty> is there a way to stop just one of my volumes coming up on the desk top
[04:23] <Jeffrae> ubuntu hates my free printer
[04:24] <Grark> Jeffrae, it works fine in VLC...
[04:24] <optiq> do i have to add ntfs partitions to fstab or should ubuntu add them automatically?
[04:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell optiq about mountwindows
[04:24] <IamEthos> NickGarvey (or anyone else): what does this line mean in the options column of my fstab file? user_xattr,errors=remount-ro
[04:24] <talios> ubuntu, when the fetus is disease free
[04:24] <Parkotron> Hello. Does anyone know where I can find the original of this video? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1165754797197197496 It's Mark Shuttleworth's speach at debconf,
[04:25] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10610
[04:25] <larsemil> gaaah. what have i forgotten on the clientside to get the nfs mounting working? i get like !"#%#"
[04:25] <rukuartic> ubuntu: It works great on Windows >>;
[04:25] <nazty> does ubuntu have another directory where icons are key?
[04:25] <nazty> kept
[04:25] <frank23> Parkotron: it's in the debian archives of that meeting.
[04:25] <optiq> thanks
[04:25] <nalioth> nazty: /usr/share/icons  or /usr/share/pixmaps
[04:25] <crimsun> trace: please pastebin ``dmesg''
[04:25] <nazty> thanks man
[04:26] <michael> ok, here's as much as I can do...    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10612
[04:26] <frank23> Parkotron: I don't remember where exactly
[04:26] <trace> crimsun: do what?  sorry?
[04:26] <Parkotron> Thanks, frank23. I'll see what I can find.
[04:26] <crimsun> trace: type dmesg into a term, and paste the output onto the pastebin Web site
[04:26] <victor-r> hello all, I have ubuntu installed in a couple of computers, I instalels postfix, but I don't seem to be able to send email, does any one have a hint?
[04:26] <crimsun> trace: I really don't have much more time tonight
[04:26] <pk_volt> anyone know why when I got apt-cache search amsn or wahtever, it doesn't look on teh internet?
[04:26] <pk_volt> it just looks on teh harddrive
[04:27] <pk_volt> do I have to set some kind of apt-get link ?
[04:27] <nazty> nalioth: yeah but neither contain volume icons
[04:27] <ifup> does anyone know of a way I can wall a user thats using kde for instance I ssh to the box and wall and they get the message.
[04:27] <larsemil> victor-r, are u sure your isp allows smtp being used? i have to use the smtp of the isp.
[04:27] <cafuego_> ubotu: shoo
[04:27] <NickGarvey> !tell pk_volta about repos
[04:27] <NickGarvey> whoa hey
[04:27] <NickGarvey> bot is not here
[04:27] <irvin> pk_volt, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:28] <victor-r> larsemil: is there a way to find out? I think I could send emails when I had fedora, but I'm not sure..
[04:28] <larsemil> victor-r, i dont know.
[04:28] <cafuego_> NickGarvey: He'll be back in a minute
[04:28] <michael> Please, help :'(  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10612
[04:28] <rukuartic> cafuego_: You own bloot?
[04:28] <NickGarvey> oh haha I didn't even notice
[04:28] <perezidentt> when i try to ftp to my site it says "connection closed"
[04:28] <perezidentt> perezidentt is the port blocked or what?
[04:28] <NickGarvey> like I just did a search to find when the bot left
[04:29] <irvin> cafuego_, is the bantracker already working/
[04:29] <nazty> anyone know where ubuntu keeps its volume icons>
[04:29] <olmayanaergi> hi
[04:29] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to add commands to startup?
[04:29] <victor-r> larsemil: thanks!
[04:29] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10613
[04:29] <pk_volt> so umm, how do i make my apt-get look on teh internet/.?
[04:29] <oxez> hm, how can I prevent analog and joydev kernel modules from being loaded at boot?
[04:29] <ddg_bluesky> Just a question - I tried adding an icon to the lcon list so that I can change my blue firefox icon but it won't let me add it
[04:29] <_jason> ubuntu: tell pk_volt about repos
[04:29] <nalioth> Kr4t05: system > preferences > session
[04:29] <MikeStyle> hey whats the command to generate menu in flux?
[04:29] <_jason> oh right...
[04:30] <tritium> cafuego_: bantracker?
[04:30] <Kr4t05> nalioth, I guess I should have asked in kubuntu. :P
[04:30] <ubuntu> repos are repositories
[04:30] <bhursey> Yall wana se some ubuntu wallpaers I designed.
[04:30] <bhursey> ?
[04:30] <_jason> pk_volt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:30] <SmittyINSIDE> sure
[04:30] <pk_volt> thanks
[04:31] <ddg_bluesky> _jason how are you doing
[04:31] <pk_volt> but i need to know how to add repositories in terminal
[04:31] <bhursey> My wallpaers http://flickr.com/photos/bhursey/sets/72057594087373637/
[04:31] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: hello
[04:31] <pk_volt> because i can't log into X
[04:31] <_jason> pk_volt: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <olmayanaergi> i have a turkish q keyboard bu i cant use my local letters
[04:31] <ddg_bluesky> _jason how do I change my firefox icon
[04:31] <pk_volt> thanks
[04:31] <cafuego_> tritium: over the months, mysql has gone a bit wonky, ubotus tables are partially corrupted, just did a dump & import to recreate 'em
[04:32] <crimsun> trace: are you _positive_ you disabled quick/easy boot?
[04:32] <cafuego_> !test
[04:32] <ubotu> Failed.
[04:32] <trace> crimsun: yes 100% sure
[04:32] <cafuego_> !goo'boy
[04:32] <ubotu> Aww, thanks dad.
[04:32] <trace> crimsun: and i did the init too
[04:33] <Mischevious> wow
[04:33] <Mischevious> just found a great script
[04:33] <rukuartic> cafuego_: Wanna hear my weird and strange mysql story?
[04:33] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: I'm not sure... /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png maybe
[04:33] <Consty> Whenever I update my repositories the multiverse that is in the default breezy install always receives 0 packages.  Has the site for the multiverse changed to pull packages from?
[04:33] <Mischevious> but if i pasted it here i'd get banned :-D
[04:33] <rukuartic> !paste
[04:33] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:33] <ubuntunooby> ummm hello?
[04:33] <iGotNoTime> What is the easiest way to get a graphical wifi widget to my desktop on my laptop?
[04:33] <crimsun> trace: pastebin ``lsmod'', please
[04:34] <ddg_bluesky> _jason do I need to replace that file?
[04:34] <MikeStyle> whats the fluxbox generate menu command?
[04:34] <ubuntunooby> ok i guess i just jump right in here?
[04:34] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: what icon exactly do you want to change?
[04:34] <_jason> MikeStyle: try running fluxbox-generate_menu
[04:34] <pk_volt> uyumm
[04:34] <pk_volt> are all the repository links down or something
[04:34] <pk_volt> i get error messages when i do a apt-cache search amsn or whatevver
[04:34] <ddg_bluesky> _jason the blue firefox icon
[04:34] <pk_volt> says like no such file or directory
[04:34] <MikeStyle> _jason:
[04:34] <Consty> pk_volt: I'm having a problem with updating my repository.. multiverse to be exact
[04:34] <_jason> pk_volt: you ran 'sudo apt-get update' after editing the file?
[04:35] <ubuntunooby> how do i get the ubuntu cd to install on my system and replace my fedora system when the cd wont boot?
[04:35] <pk_volt> oops
[04:35] <MikeStyle> _jason command not found
[04:35] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10617
[04:35] <larsemil> i have problems getting my rpcservices to work...
[04:35] <_jason> MikeStyle: I compiled fluxbox so maybe it is different for the repo version.  try typing fluxbox<tab>
[04:36] <_jason> MikeStyle: there is usually a menu option somewhere too
[04:36] <bhursey> ubuntunoobody do you have the cdrom as your first boot device?
[04:36] <trace> crimsun: want me to check for quick boot just to make sure?
[04:36] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: I believe you can just replace that icon
[04:36] <Consty> _jason: I'm actually having a similar problem, in the breezy install the multiverse repository isn't updating any packages.. it always receives 0k
[04:36] <thomas`> i have a question i  installed ubuntu 5.10 i had 32bit xp deleted itoff to save space got rid of that aprtition but i got a 64bit xp installation thats still on my comp why didnt grub pick that up? now only ubuntu shows up in the list
[04:36] <_jason> Consty: do you get errors on apt-get update?
[04:36] <crimsun> trace: yes, please.
[04:37] <ubuntunooby> yes i have it as my first boot device but it still wont boot from it all i get is my fedora boot loader
[04:37] <crimsun> trace: I only have ~10 more minutes
[04:37] <thomas`> anyone know how i would get back into my xp install?
[04:37] <trace> crimsun: ok brb
[04:37] <pk_volt> thomas
[04:37] <bhursey> taht od
[04:37] <IamEthos> is it normal that I shouldn't have permission to write to most folders outside of my home folder by default?
[04:37] <mattwestm> how do I install just grub from the CD?
[04:37] <bhursey> does it give you the option to hit any key to boot to cdrom
[04:37] <bhursey> ?
[04:37] <MikeStyle> _jason...no menu config...at all. ok to my memory there is suppose to be a fluxbox-conf file i have to install but its not in synaptic
[04:37] <_jason> IamEthos: yes
[04:37] <ubuntunooby> nope sure dont
[04:37] <mcrummey> hey I have a question on an error I got often
[04:37] <bimberi> ubuntunooby: can you boot from other CDs?
[04:37] <CurtisB> thomas` do you have a boot disk?
[04:38] <pk_volt> thomas- try going into the windows recovery mode
[04:38] <mcrummey> when I try to install stuff
[04:38] <IamEthos> oh
[04:38] <thomas`> thatwould work?
[04:38] <Consty> _jason: Hmm now that pulled some stuff
[04:38] <pk_volt> and once u get in, try typing in :fixboot
[04:38] <j3r> Hi, I have been searching google for quite some time now and I have a problem with getting Direct Rendering to work under Breezy.  I use the i810 driver and I get ERROR! sizeof(I830DRIRec) does not match passed size from device driver.  Has anyone found a solution to this problem ?
[04:38] <IamEthos> do I not want to write to anything more than my home folder?
[04:38] <ubuntunooby> yes bimberi i can boot from the ubuntu live cd just not the install cd
[04:38] <thomas`> go in windows recovery mode then what?
[04:38] <IamEthos> what about folders on other drives?
[04:38] <bhursey> ya if you had like a win98 boot disk
[04:38] <mcrummey>  Loading dependency "OpenGL.GL" failed: No module named OpenGL.GL
[04:38] <bhursey> that should workj
[04:38] <bimberi> ubuntunooby: could be a bad cd then :/
[04:39] <Jaga> I have a problem with sound. my sound support works (totem/xmms) but gnome events sounds don't.. any ideas?
[04:39] <bhursey> ya bad cd sounds like the prob
[04:39] <ubuntunooby> should i reburn the image? and see if it works differently?
[04:39] <bhursey> yes
[04:39] <ddg_bluesky> _jason when I move the file into the directory I get you do not have permission to write to this folder
[04:39] <pk_volt> awww man
[04:39] <ubuntunooby> ok will do thanks for your help
[04:39] <CurtisB> Jaga - did you check your settings in Preferences - Multimedia Selector?
[04:39] <pk_volt> the forums are down
[04:39] <bhursey> burn it at a slow spped just in case
[04:39] <ubuntunooby> ok thanks
[04:39] <bhursey> the forms hsould be back up in about 1 houer..
[04:39] <bhursey> or so
[04:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell ddg_bluesky about sudo
[04:40] <bhursey> I asked PoofyHairGuy
[04:40] <maning> hi! how do I change my proxy settings for my apt via the root shell.  My GDm failed and I need to update packages to get it running again.  Using breezy.
[04:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell ddg_bluesky about cli
[04:40] <Consty> _jason: I enabled the multiverse in synaptic, but mplayer isn't showing up?
[04:40] <Jaga> CurtisB: yeah, what should it be? it's set to OSS atm, the test sound works
[04:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell Consty about mplayer
[04:40] <_jason> Consty: does mplayer-386 show up?
[04:40] <nazty> how do i start my samba server
[04:40] <CurtisB> Jaga - what are the settings in Preferences - Sound
[04:40] <ddg_bluesky> _jason so what would the command be for replacing this icon?
[04:40] <mcrummey> I keep getting the following error when I try to run or install items
[04:40] <mcrummey>  Loading dependency "OpenGL.GL" failed: No module named OpenGL.GL
[04:41] <mcrummey> do I need to apt-get something?
[04:41] <Consty> _jason, negative
[04:41] <IamEthos> will a driver for Red Hat Linux work with Ubuntu?
[04:41] <Jeffrae> H, are there any lirc users here?
[04:41] <Jaga> CurtisB: sound server startup: on, enable sounds: on
[04:41] <bimberi> maning: export http_proxy=http://user:pass@address.of.proxy:port
[04:41] <cafuego> IamEthos: Not without recompiling it
[04:41] <Jaga> CurtisB, sounds for events I meant. both on anyway
[04:41] <maning> bimberi: thanks!
[04:41] <Consty> _jason: I followed the directions for enabling the multiverse and universe repositories.. and update the repositories, but still nothing shows up for mplayer
[04:42] <IamEthos> yuck
[04:42] <bimberi> maning: yw :)
[04:42] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: sudo mv /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png_backup && sudo mv /path/to/your/new/icon/here /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png
[04:42] <CurtisB> Jaga - okay - if you use the SOund Events tab, select a sound, and Play, do you hear it or get any error?
[04:42] <cafuego> yuck?
[04:42] <IamEthos> where would I go to try to find a USB driver for my wifi card?
[04:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Consty about mplayer
[04:42] <Hexidigital> _jason, i had problems with mplayer also, Consty, try installing Xine
[04:42] <_jason> Consty: please put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:42] <cafuego> IamEthos: depends on the controller/chipset
[04:42] <IamEthos> broadcom
[04:42] <Jaga> CurtisB, I hear nothing, but there is no error either
[04:42] <cafuego> IamEthos: specific version?
[04:43] <Consty> Hexidigital: i dont care for xine though :P
[04:43] <boo> hey everyone. Im trying to automount an ntfs partition, and was wondering if when im using "/dev/hda1    /media/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0"  does it need to be hda, or hdd, and when im mounting my slave, sda or sdd
[04:43] <Hexidigital> consty, me either :) but until i get mplayer, i'm stuck
[04:43] <Consty> Hexidigital: xine is there,
[04:43] <IamEthos> M4479
[04:43] <CurtisB> Jaga - okay, I'm stumped -- xmms works, test works in the multimedia selector, your settings in Sound seem good, but no event sounds... Can anyone help Jaga on that, it's beyond my expertise
[04:43] <mcrummey> I keep getting the following error when I try to run or install items
[04:44] <mcrummey>  Loading dependency "OpenGL.GL" failed: No module named OpenGL.GL
[04:44] <IamEthos> that's the dell part number anyway
[04:44] <mcrummey> Can someone help me?
[04:44] <IamEthos> broadcom mini pci card
[04:44] <Joetheodd> How do I install Sun Java?
[04:44] <Jaga> CurtisB, hehe thanks anyway. It worked when I installed ubuntu. I wish I could remember what I did to screw it up :)
[04:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell Joetheodd about java
[04:44] <cafuego> what do you need usb for then?
[04:44] <Consty> Hexidigital: I'm wondering if mplayer was removed from multiverse
[04:44] <Eleaf> hm hmmm
[04:45] <Joetheodd> thanks _jason
[04:45] <Joetheodd> !javadebs
[04:45] <CurtisB> Joetheodd - the latest version or the ubuntu distro package?
[04:45] <Hexidigital> consty, i'm not sure... but i had all of the 'verse's enabled
[04:45] <cafuego> Dell M4479. Mini-PCI Wireless Broadcom BCM94306MPSG ?
[04:45] <CurtisB> Jaga - I hear ya,, ben there!
[04:45] <_jason> Hexidigital: post your /etc/apt/sources.list too if you can't find mplayer
[04:45] <Hexidigital> _jason, on here?
[04:45] <Joetheodd> CurtisB, latest version
[04:45] <_jason> Hexidigital: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, then just give me a link
[04:46] <Consty> _jason: will do
[04:46] <Hexidigital> ok
[04:46] <cafuego> IamEthos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:46] <CurtisB> Joetheodd - I assume you want plain vanilla? or do you need enterprise or the mobile devices version?
[04:46] <osz> hi
[04:46] <maning> Ubuntu forums down? it says "We will be back shortly after our maintenance is complete."
[04:46] <cafuego> maning:  moving servers
[04:46] <trace> crimsun: you were right it was enabled sorry
[04:47] <osz> i would like to know how to manually set ubuntu to mount a filesystem ?
[04:47] <crimsun> trace: ok, whew.
[04:47] <ddg_bluesky> _jason I still got a permission error
[04:47] <trace> crimsun: still no sound
[04:47] <maning> cafuego: any ideas when it will be back
[04:47] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?
[04:47] <crimsun> trace: what command did you try?
[04:47] <Hexidigital> _jason, do i use my name or type your name?
[04:47] <_jason> Hexidigital: whatever you prefer
[04:47] <coz> anyone here know of a good OCR app for ubuntu/
[04:47] <Consty> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10618
[04:48] <ddg_bluesky> _jason prints hi
[04:48] <trace> crimsun: I didn't try any
[04:48] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: paste the exact command you used
[04:48] <Hexidigital> ok, i'll put my name, _jason... give you the url?
[04:48] <trace> crimsun: what sould i try?
[04:48] <thomas`> would i need a 64bit xp boot cd to get back into my 64bit partition? i only have a 32bit xp will that be enuff to get me back in?
[04:48] <_jason> Hexidigital: nod
[04:48] <thomas`> trying to get back into 64bit xp
[04:48] <crimsun> trace: echo 'activate' | sudo tee /sys/devices/pnp0/00:0[56] /resources
[04:48] <osz> does any1 know how to manually set ubuntu to mount a filesystem on startup ?
[04:48] <CurtisB> I can say that I tried gocr todsay and was not very impressed.. that's all Ive tried
[04:48] <Joetheodd> Someone remind me how to install a downloaded deb file? Forgot, lol
[04:48] <Fujitsu> sudo dpkg -i package.dev, Joetheodd.
[04:49] <Mischevious> whats the best remote desktop software
[04:49] <Mischevious> ?
[04:49] <ohgoof> thomas`: define 'get into'  ?
[04:49] <Joetheodd> thanks fujitsu
[04:49] <tapox> How do I install Java?
[04:49] <thomas`> i want to boot up my 64bit windows
[04:49] <Joetheodd> !tell tapox about java
[04:49] <ohgoof> Mischevious: ssh + whatever vnc you like, imho.
[04:49] <thomas`> i installed ubuntu deleting my 32bit xp partition to make more space for my linux
[04:49] <_jason> Consty: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list     and everywhere you see ``universe'' by itself on a line, change it to ``universe multiverse'' then hit ctrl-o to save and ctrl-x to exit
[04:49] <thomas`> and kept my 64bit xp
[04:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell Hexidigital about mplayer
[04:49] <trace> crimsun: says the device is busy
[04:49] <IamEthos> cafuego: thanks I appreciate the help
[04:49] <IamEthos> alright
[04:49] <Mischevious> ohgoof, i have ssh, how do you use ssh with remote desktop?
[04:49] <IamEthos> off to work time
[04:49] <thomas`> i just cant boot into my xp 64bit anymore the grub loader doesnt show me it anymore
[04:49] <Mischevious> ohgoof, i thought u just use remote desktop client
[04:49] <_jason> Hexidigital: you should be able to find packages like mplayer-386
[04:49] <thomas`> just says ubuntu in the list
[04:50] <NickGarvey> !grub
[04:50] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:50] <Hexidigital> _jason, i'll check it out
[04:50] <ohgoof> thomas`: setup grub to point to your win32 stuff ?
[04:50] <osz> hello ne1 ?
[04:50] <Mischevious> !remotedesktop
[04:50] <thomas`> i believe so...
[04:50] <ubotu> Mischevious: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:50] <Mischevious> !vnc
[04:50] <ubotu> I heard vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[04:50] <IamEthos> later everyone
[04:50] <crimsun> trace: sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 port=0x530 cport=0x538 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=0 isapnp=0
[04:50] <thomas`> if not is there a way to go bnack and recover it
[04:51] <ohgood> thomas`: just take a look at your config. it should be pretty self explainitary.
[04:51] <boo> Ok, im trying to mount a vista, and 2 xp partitions. whenever i try to go to an xp part. it points me to the vista one. any suggestions?
[04:51] <ddg_bluesky> _jason pastbin.com/615566
[04:51] <thomas`> were is it?
[04:51] <Consty> _jason: Alright, trying that.. How come we have to do that manually?  You'd think it would be available in the gui like in dapper.
[04:51] <NickGarvey> thomas`: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:51] <osz> hi guys im trying to mount a filesystem to a certain directory on boot, how would i go about it ?
[04:51] <ohgood> thomas`: /boot/grub/menu.list or /boot/grub/grub.conf
[04:51] <_jason> Consty: you can do it in the gui.  It's just easier for me to explain this way
[04:51] <NickGarvey> !tell osz about fstab
[04:52] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: you missed a sudo
[04:52] <thomas`> in my menu.list
[04:52] <CurtisB> !tell CurtisB about java
[04:52] <thomas`> dont see my xp in there at all
[04:52] <Consty> _jason: I see, well it worked.. I thank ya
[04:52] <thomas`> any way to get my xp install in there setup somehow?
[04:52] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10620
[04:52] <tapox> Is there a Java 1.5 package, or will I need to use Java 1.4?
[04:52] <osz> NickGarvey: ill give it a go thx
[04:52] <osz> :D
[04:53] <ohgood> thomas`: of course. there are tons of examples of grub.conf 's online.
[04:53] <thomas`> i see it but im not good with command lines..
[04:53] <crimsun> trace: try snd-cs4232, then, with the same parameters
[04:53] <Consty> _jason: I have one more question I'm curious on how to do.. if I have a ntfs partition that every time I mount I can never access unless I use sudo, how can I fix that so I can easily browse through it and such?
[04:53] <sponix2ipfw> how do you set apt to use proxy ?
[04:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell Consty about ntfs
[04:53] <thomas`> couldnt i just up my menu.lst and grub.conf and u take a look at it for me?
[04:53] <_jason> Consty: pay attention to the permissions table in the middle of the wiki page that ubotu sent you
[04:53] <bimberi> tapox: 1.4 is in the ubuntu repositories.  1.5 available via...
[04:54] <bimberi> !tell tapox about java
[04:54] <Consty> _jason: alright great, thanks.  how is ntfs write support?  is it good or still iffy?
[04:54] <_jason> Consty: not recommended
[04:54] <trace> crimsun: same error
[04:54] <tapox> thanks bimberi
[04:54] <NickGarvey> msg ubotu pxe
[04:54] <bimberi> tapox: yw :)
[04:54] <cafuego> 1.6 beta is alsvia available via !java (but requires a wee bit of file modification)
[04:54] <Hexidigital> _jason, but i have the multiverse enabled http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10621
[04:54] <crimsun> trace: ok, please pastebin lsmod
[04:55] <bimberi> cafuego: ooh thanks  (*reads*)
[04:55] <_jason> Hexidigital: use synaptic or aptitude to install it and look for the right package in the mplayer wiki page
[04:55] <tritium> sponix2ipfw: man apt.conf, and read /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz
[04:55] <sponix2ipfw> !source-o-matic
[04:55] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:55] <sponix2ipfw> tritium: thanks
[04:55] <Mischevious> does the ubuntu live-cd come with a vnc-viewer ???
[04:55] <tritium> sponix2ipfw: sure.  The file has a nice example to follow.
[04:55] <CurtisB> bye for now, good luck everyone!
[04:56] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10622
[04:56] <bimberi> Mischevious: i think so.  Check Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client
[04:56] <ddg_bluesky> _jason thanks, I justd do sudo home/username/filename /usr/share/pixmaps/ and it worked
[04:57] <poningru> hey guys I have a winxp box and an ubuntu box how do I transfer files between them?
[04:57] <osz> thanks for ur help
[04:57] <osz> cheers
[04:57] <poningru> I want to transfer file from the win box to the ubuntu box
[04:57] <Jeffrae> poningru, Samba
[04:57] <thomas`> ohgood: im a complete newb, well not complete but i might need a bit of help with this grub situation mind helping me out a bit?
[04:58] <NickGarvey> here thomas`I'll show you my grub config
[04:58] <ohgood> thomas`: if you like
[04:58] <bimberi> poningru: set up a Share on the XP box and access it via Places -> Connect to Server  on the ubuntu box
[04:58] <saif> is it possible ti upgrade to switch to ubuntu64 using apt? or does it have to be a clean install?
[04:58] <poningru> Jeffrae: can I acheive that by simply plugging both computers together using a network cable?
[04:58] <bimberi> saif: clean install
[04:58] <Mischevious> does noauto make things not mount automatically in fstab??
[04:58] <boo> can someone explain this: /dev/hdd1     ntfs     23G  5.3G   17G  24% /media/windows
[04:58] <boo> /dev/hdc1     ntfs     23G  5.3G   17G  24% /media/windows
[04:58] <boo> /dev/hdc2     ntfs     23G  5.3G   17G  24% /media/windows
[04:58] <Jeffrae> if it is a crossover cable
[04:59] <saif> bimberi, :( dual boot? ubuntu and ubuntu64?
[04:59] <poningru> thanks dude
[04:59] <boo> mount shows 3 different, yet the same, partitions
[04:59] <kirik> hi! I have a Gigabyte PS/2 Optical Mouse... it is not working in Hoary... what to do?
[04:59] <poningru> brb
[04:59] <bimberi> saif: yep, that would be ok
[04:59] <Hexidigital> _jason, i am able to install mplayer using the advanced settings of synaptic... do you think it matters if i install 386 or 686 version?
[04:59] <NickGarvey> thomas`: http://pastebin.com/615580
[05:00] <kirik> Hexidigital: which is the processor on your computer?
[05:00] <crimsun> trace: sudo modprobe -r snd_opl3_lib snd_hwdep snd_cs4236_lib snd_mpu401_uart snd_cs4231_lib snd_cs46xx snd_rawmidi snd_seq_device snd_ac97_codec snd_ac97_bus snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd
[05:00] <_jason> Hexidigital: don't install 686, I think you probably want 586 but check the wiki table
[05:00] <saif> bimberi, cool! just need to empty a partition?
[05:00] <Hexidigital> !mplayer
[05:00] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[05:00] <Drac[Server] > How do I create a new user?
[05:00] <Hexidigital> kirik, _jason, thanks
[05:00] <boo> Excuse me, what is MTAB?
[05:00] <trace> crimsun: ok nothing happend
[05:00] <kirik> isn't /dev/psaux for PS/2 mice?
[05:01] <EdLin> _jason, in marillat mplayer-686 is just a transitional package for mplayer-586
[05:01] <johnny__> help
[05:01] <_jason> EdLin: in ubuntu too
[05:01] <IdleOne> !help
[05:01] <bimberi> saif: yes, or the installer can resize for you (back up though) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[05:01] <_jason> EdLin: it would work, I just don't see the point in installing it.  Do you know why?
[05:01] <trace> crimsun: went to prompt
[05:01] <IdleOne> johnny__, ask a question
[05:01] <johnny__> ok can i ask if there is fax software for linux?
[05:02] <Drac[Server] > johnny__, there is no need to ask if you are able to ask a question. :P
[05:02] <EdLin> _jason, well, if you're not using aptitude, removing mplayer-686 will only remove the dummy package
[05:02] <crimsun> trace: good, now sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 index=0 port=0x530 cport=0x538 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=0 isapnp=0
[05:02] <_jason> EdLin: yeah
[05:02] <boo> Excuse me, what is MTAB?
[05:02] <geargolem> Hello I have the error and the line that won't let me install an exporter:  http://pastebin.com/615574
[05:02] <saif> bimberi, all right! thanx!
[05:03] <ddg_bluesky> _jason on a different subject how do I install apache web server
[05:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell ddg_bluesky about lamp
[05:03] <Drac[Server] > Um... how do I create a new user? Simple question...
[05:03] <_jason> Drac[Server] : adduser foo
[05:03] <IdleOne> johnny__, efax - Programs to send and receive fax messages
[05:03] <IdleOne>  type : sudo apt-get install efax
[05:03] <Drac[Server] > _jason, with sudo, I assume.
[05:03] <neurosis_> is the quake 2 that comes in the games collection for ubuntu free and playable?
[05:04] <_jason> Drac[Server] : correctly
[05:04] <boo> _jason, what does this mean. mount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /media/windows1 busy
[05:04] <boo> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc1 is mounted on /media/windows
[05:04] <saif> how can i ask uboto to tell me about somethn?
[05:04] <johnny__> yes thanx
[05:04] <_jason> boo: it means exactly what it says :)
[05:04] <NickGarvey> saif: /msg ubotu <thing>
[05:04] <boo> :( whats mtab, and why arent my partitions mounting correctly
[05:04] <_jason> boo: have you checked /media/windows1 to see if your stuff is there
[05:04] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10623
[05:04] <osz> NickGarvey: thx for ur help worked a charm with the fstab thingy  :D
[05:04] <NickGarvey> no problem :)
[05:05] <osz> cool cya
[05:05] <osz> :)
[05:05] <crimsun> trace: and now, dmesg
[05:05] <boo> its not there ,_jason
[05:05] <Ubeyguy> ubotu	Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:05] <_jason> boo: check /media/windows
[05:05] <Ubeyguy> is that normal?
[05:06] <NickGarvey> Ubeyguy: the syntax error is a joke
[05:06] <johnny__> i tried that and the downloader ask for the BB 5.10 disc i placed it in the cd tray and it keeps asking for the disc i checked to see if the cd was working and it is ?
[05:06] <NickGarvey> just means he doesn't know what you asked
[05:06] <bluefoxicy> ubotu sed
[05:06] <IdleOne> Ubeyguy, it is if the bot doesnt know about what you asked
[05:06] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bluefoxicy
[05:06] <boo> i was trying to mount 3 partitions, but it overlapped or something, and only mounted one. then i did sudo mount -a, and its still there
[05:06] <sponix2ipfw> is there another breezy-seveas besides that .nl one, it doesn't do crap for me
[05:06] <Jeffrae> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ubuntu forums back up
[05:06] <Jeffrae> WHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[05:06] <Drac[Server] > Ack. How do I REMOVE a user?
[05:06] <Jeffrae> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[05:06] <ddg_bluesky> _jason that is great apache already installed in one simple command, I noticed in that link that php4 and mysql 4 are used, why not 5?
[05:06] <Jeffrae> YIPPIE!!!!!!!!!
[05:06] <IdleOne> !tell johnny__ about repos!
[05:06] <Jeffrae> whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:06] <Jeffrae> ubuntu forums
[05:06] <Jeffrae> whoooooooooooooooooo
[05:06] <bluefoxicy> someone give me sed magic:  find http://*.rpm and spit out strings that fit that...
[05:06] <Jeffrae> whooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:06] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:06] <_jason> ddg_bluesky: php5 is in the repos, mysql5 is not
[05:06] <Drac[Server] > Jeffrae, dear lord, stop! Please!
[05:06] <tristanmike> !ops
[05:06] <Jeffrae> i am done
[05:06] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[05:06] <crimsun> Jeffrae: dude, CHILL.
[05:06] <IdleOne> johnny__,  you need to enable universe/multiverse
[05:06] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:07] <Jeffrae> sorry
[05:07] <Jeffrae> got exited
[05:07] <Drac[Server] > exited? :P
[05:07] <bimberi> if only
[05:07] <_jason> Jeffrae: heh you were about to get exited
[05:07] <johnny__> ???
[05:07] <boo> :P way to steal my joke
[05:07] <Jeffrae> excited
[05:07] <NickGarvey> hahaha nice
[05:07] <johnny__> more details please
[05:07] <IdleOne> johnny__, look for a message from ubotu on your screen it has a link
[05:07] <_jason> crimsun: update topic please?
[05:07] <johnny__> ok
[05:07] <johnny__> thank you
[05:08] <Drac[Server] > Anyway, allow me to repeat what was lost in the flood: How do I remove a user?
[05:08] <IdleOne> no problem
[05:08] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10624
[05:08] <_jason> Drac[Server] : deluser foo
[05:09] <crimsun> trace: is this a default dapper install?
[05:09] <crimsun> trace: that is, you have not attempted to compile alsa on your own, etc.?
[05:09] <trace> crimsun: yes
[05:09] <thomas`> anyone here good with Grub i want them tolook at my menu.lst  to see if i set it up right
[05:10] <trace> crimsun: no not yet
[05:10] <crimsun> trace: yes it's default, or yes you have mucked with alsa?
[05:10] <trace> crimsun: yes its default
[05:10] <NickGarvey> thomas`: pick me
[05:10] <NickGarvey> thomas`: paste bin
[05:10] <mconroy> Can someone tell me where I can download the Kernel source?
[05:10] <crimsun> trace: try: sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 port=0x530 cport=0x538 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=0 isapnp=0
[05:11] <thomas`> http://pastebin.com/615599
[05:11] <crimsun> mconroy: uname -r
[05:11] <Jeffrae> sudo make-kpkg modules_image blows up
[05:11] <ohgood> mconroy: kernel.org ?
[05:11] <Jeffrae> am I doing that wrong
[05:11] <Jeffrae> ?
[05:11] <mconroy> ok I will try that
[05:11] <crimsun> mconroy: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[05:11] <cafuego> Jeffrae: Do you have any 3rd party module sources in /usr/src/modules ?
[05:11] <silvaran> Are there any console-based network configuration tools for breezy?  I don't have X.
[05:11] <mconroy> awesome
[05:11] <Jeffrae> yes
[05:11] <mconroy> Thx crimsun
[05:12] <thomas`> do i have to have the os name correct? cuz it says microsoft xp home and im running 64bit edition does this have to be set right in order for it to boot?
[05:12] <cafuego> Jeffrae: Ah ok, then either their sources are broken or you're doing something wrong.
[05:12] <Jeffrae> cafuego, Yes sir
[05:12] <Jeffrae> hmm
[05:12] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10625
[05:12] <asymmetry> mmm - countdown to dapper
[05:12] <Jeffrae> trying o install lirc-modules
[05:12] <Jeffrae> ever do that?
[05:12] <cafuego> Jeffrae: Nope.
[05:12] <Jeffrae> cafuego, Sorry dude...
[05:13] <techwhore> anyone using dapper ?
[05:13] <crimsun> trace: sudo depmod -e
[05:13] <cafuego> lirc-modules-source is in Ubuntu, using that?
[05:13] <Jeffrae> yes
[05:13] <Jeffrae> cafuego, that is correct
[05:13] <bimberi> silvaran: editing /etc/network/interfaces is probably it (with the assistance of 'man interfaces')
[05:13] <silvaran> bimberi: Okie, tx
[05:13] <tapox> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[05:13] <bimberi> silvaran: np :)
[05:14] <nalioth> techwhore: ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:14] <silvaran> Thought maybe there was an ncurses-based interface, ah well
[05:14] <techwhore> ever since i upgraded to dapper, nautilus (i believe gnome-volume-manager) blanks my dvd+rw when I hit eject.
[05:14] <techwhore> nalioth: good call. thanks.
[05:14] <trace> crimsun: ok it worked on something and came back to prompt.
[05:14] <Jeffrae> do I maybe need to supply version?
[05:14] <bimberi> silvaran: not to my (definitely not omnipotent) knowledge
[05:14] <crimsun> trace: now retry the modprobe command
[05:15] <silvaran> Mmmm... omni potent...
[05:15] <trace> crimsun: which command?
[05:15] <crimsun> trace: use your shell history, press the up arrow
[05:15] <trace> crimsun: one sec
[05:15] <bimberi> silvaran: :)
[05:16] <IamEthos> okay, I don't want ubuntu to see my windows partition at all
[05:16] <imperfect-> MythTv work pretty well under ubuntu
[05:16] <imperfect-> ?
[05:16] <IamEthos> and I don't want it to expect my usb hard drive to be present
[05:16] <IamEthos> any clue where I can find out how to fix that?
[05:17] <Jeffrae> oh I am missing  linux-headers source for one thing
[05:17] <trace> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10626
[05:17] <bimberi> Jeffrae: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:17] <cafuego> Jeffrae: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:17] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:17] <cafuego> and build-essential is handy too
[05:18] <crimsun> trace: is this current dapper? (newer than flight 5)
[05:19] <Jeffrae> the headers are needed to compile modules I take it?
[05:19] <trace> crimsun: how would I find that out?
[05:19] <trace> 6.0.4
[05:20] <crimsun> trace: no, uname -r
[05:21] <trace> cri
[05:21] <trace> crimsun: 2.6.15-19-386
[05:21] <crimsun> trace: ok, unload all the alsa modules again using the modprobe -r command I gave you above
[05:22] <trace> crimsun: ok one sec
[05:22] <Jeffrae> scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
[05:22] <trace> crimsun: ok
[05:22] <crimsun> Jeffrae: you don't have build-essential installed?
[05:22] <Jeffrae> that is where my make-dpgk modules_image goes haywire
[05:23] <Jeffrae> no
[05:23] <crimsun> so install it.
[05:23] <Jeffrae> the instruction did ask for it
[05:23] <Jeffrae> just kernel souce and linux headers
[05:23] <Jeffrae> how do I get build essential?
[05:23] <crimsun> sudo apt-get install build-essential, or use Synaptic
[05:24] <hope> hey room
[05:24] <trace> crimsun: brb
[05:24] <ddg_bluesky> Man I have just had ubuntu up and running for 2 days now , and I just love how easy it is to install stuff - I just love it
[05:24] <Jeffrae> thanks
[05:24] <Jeffrae> this has some more source or something?
[05:25] <Jeffrae> DUDES
[05:25] <Jeffrae> crimsun, That helped
[05:25] <Jeffrae> I wonder why the document didn't state to get this
[05:25] <Jeffrae> oh well
[05:26] <Jeffrae> Maybe I should write the lirc people
[05:27] <bimberi> Jeffrae: is the document an ubuntu one?  if not it probably assumes that the compilers/tools/basic-libraries are already present (usually a safe assumption for linux but not for ubuntu)
[05:27] <Jeffrae> make-dpgk modules_image is asking all sorts of questions not even related to my lirc module
[05:27] <Jeffrae> that is the only module in etc/src/modules
[05:28] <Jeffrae> /usr/src/modules
[05:28] <Misnix> ls -l src/modules
[05:28] <Misnix> ls -l /usr/src/modules
[05:28] <Misnix> oops
[05:29] <Jeffrae> just lirc is there like I said
[05:29] <Jeffrae> it is asking stuff like... BSD Process Accounting (BSD_PROCESS_ACCT) [Y/n/?]  y
[05:29] <tkup> I just had the scare of my life! My system freezed and on reboot, fsck fails on my reiserfs. It died asking for an fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree! When the rebuild finished I rebooted and every seems OK now. The hard drive is not making any funny noises or sporadically going on and off. On reboot, I check the log and I noticed two lines: Mar 21 22:01:31 localhost kernel: [4592512.405000]  ReiserFS: warning: is_tree_node: node level 26708
[05:29] <tkup> does not match to the expected one 1
[05:29] <tkup> Mar 21 22:01:31 localhost kernel: [4592512.405000]  ReiserFS: hda1: warning: vs-5150: search_by_key: invalid format found in block 5899228. Fsck?
[05:30] <thomas`> anyone here have problems using ipods on linux?
[05:30] <thomas`> im trying to get some music on here.. but when i use gtkpod it doesnt show up on ipod in the music list at all
[05:30] <rdw200169> you can get an ipod working, it's just a pain in the butt
[05:30] <Drac[Server] > Is it possible to set an Ubuntu user up in such a way that it can't access the "preferences" and "administration" submenus within the "system" menu?
[05:30] <IdleOne> !tell thomas` about ipod
[05:31] <thomas`> if i upload a whole library its like not there..
[05:31] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   may I ask why?
[05:31] <crimsun> trace: I need to sleep.
[05:32] <Jeffrae> When compiling a module ie lirc-module how do I use the "sudo make-kpkg modules_image
[05:32] <Jeffrae> " command I am asked tons and tons of questions not even related to lirc.  is there a way around this?
[05:32] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick, I'm putting my school on Linux. We can't have students playing around with the system configuration. :P
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Drac[Server] ,  i Know kde has variuous Lockdown modes/methods for that.. Im thinking that Gnome does as well.
[05:32] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   its great to hear that a school is using linux ;)
[05:32] <prop2> Exist some kind of "frontend" or GUI to access all documentation installed on a ubuntu system?
[05:32] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   i'll browse around for a bit and see if I come up with anything
[05:33] <rdw200169> as long as the users' accounts don't have sudo access, it shouldn't be a problem
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> FliesLikeABrick, there are thousands of school systems around the world switching to Linux
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> it's just safer
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> period.
[05:33] <FliesLikeABrick> i know nomasteryoda  thats why I like hearing about more of them doing it ;)
[05:33] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick, It's not on Linux just yet. This project is to convince them that they should. :)
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> Exclamation Point!
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> yup
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:33] <FliesLikeABrick> nomasteryoda I work at the computing helpdesk for my college.  with luck soon we're going to officially support linux (we don't even officially support macos yet)
[05:34] <protocol1> does anyone know where to get a limewire ready for ubuntu?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> wow
[05:34] <IamEthos> how can I make Ubuntu ignore my windows partition?
[05:34] <lootpuppy> Can someone please point me to a dcent set of instructions on how to make my computer dual boot Windows XP / Ubuntu? I can find heaps for Red Hat but my GRUB appears to work differently to the one described in the instructions.
[05:34] <FliesLikeABrick> protocol1  limewire is one of those pieces of software that any inteligent computer user wouldn't touch
[05:34] <prop2> Exist some kind of "frontend" or GUI to access all documentation installed on a ubuntu system?
[05:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lootpuppy about dualboot
[05:34] <IdleOne> !tell lootpuppy about dualboot
[05:35] <FliesLikeABrick> lootpuppy  use partition magic or some other tool to resize your ntfs partition, then just load the ubuntu CD and the rest is self explanitory
[05:35] <Hexidigital> lootpuppy, you can't use partition magic if you have dynamic volumes, however
[05:35] <Jeffrae> Hello has anyone here done make-kpkg modules_image
[05:35] <Jeffrae>   before?
[05:35] <IzeyJr> anyone using dapper yet?
[05:35] <trace> crimsun: back do  need to install something to make the sound work?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> IzeyJr,   lots of people in #ubuntu+1 are
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:35] <protocol1> FliesLikeABrick, what would you reccomend for dl'ing music?
[05:36] <FliesLikeABrick> lootpuppy  the ubuntu install CD detects other operating systems and loads them into grub by default
[05:36] <silvaran> Any howtos for setting up breezy "server" install as a router (nat+firewall, 2 interfaces, pppoe)
[05:36] <prop2> Exist some kind of "frontend" or GUI to access all documentation installed on a ubuntu system?
[05:36] <Eleaf> Humm
[05:36] <Eleaf> I really can't figure out this ftp problem..
[05:36] <IzeyJr> lol okies its pertty stable then
[05:36] <FliesLikeABrick> protocol1 I spend hours every week removing spyware and viruses from the computers of windows users that use limewire
[05:36] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : have a look at pessulus and sabayon
[05:36] <nalioth> prop2: point your web browser toward file:///usr/share/doc/
[05:36] <crimsun> trace: no. Verify that no alsa modules are loaded: lsmod|grep ^snd
[05:36] <crimsun> trace: that should return nothing
[05:37] <FliesLikeABrick> protocol1 of course downloading music is not quite legal, but it is said that bit-torrent is popular enough that it works
[05:37] <Hexidigital> flieslikeabrick, so that means no limewire  :)
[05:37] <Drac[Server] > bimberi, what are those?
[05:37] <venox> how can I make every new file inside a directory to use the chmod 550 and the group "shared"?
[05:37] <crimsun> trace: and I'm very tired, and I'm going to sleep in 5 minutes.
[05:37] <prop2> Exist some kind of "frontend" or GUI to access all documentation installed on a ubuntu system?
[05:37] <protocol1> thanks for the information because...i never installed it on my windowx or linux.....and from what im hearing I dont think I want to
[05:37] <rdw200169> who wants limewire??? just use another gnutella software... its all the same network
[05:37] <trace> crimsun: yea nothng returned
[05:37] <IamEthos> how can I keep ubuntu from mounting partitions on startup?
[05:37] <IdleOne> !tell Hexidigital about frostwire
[05:37] <Drac[Server] > gtk-gnutella. Mmmm.
[05:37] <rdw200169> limewire is just a commercial front end
[05:37] <Hexidigital> idleone, i didnt want it... someone else did
[05:37] <FliesLikeABrick> protocol1  almost any popular windows p2p client is a bad idea
[05:37] <trace> crimsun: ok ty for your help
[05:37] <crimsun> trace: ok, now try ``sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx''
[05:37] <rdw200169> to the gnutella network
[05:37] <Hexidigital> i was only commenting
[05:38] <IdleOne> Hexidigital, then tell them about it :P
[05:38] <protocol1> ok...i got ya
[05:38] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah, sorry protocol1  that i couldn't suggest anything, I don't use p2p much after so many people at my college getting sued by the RIAA
[05:38] <venox> IamEthos, `noauto` flag on /etc/fstab
[05:38] <prop2> Please helpme, I dont know how to see all the documentation installed. I need help.
[05:38] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : sorry breezy only has sabayon (dapper has pessulus)  -  they enable desktop lockdown
[05:38] <FliesLikeABrick> about 2% of my school's population has gotten sued
[05:38] <Hexidigital> well, i didnt' know about frostwire, idleone :)
[05:38] <Hexidigital> i do now
[05:38] <protocol1> heh....
[05:38] <trace> crimsun: ok it returned to prompt
[05:38] <nalioth> prop2: i just told you how to access some of it
[05:38] <Drac[Server] > bimberi, I'm on dapper. :P
[05:38] <crimsun> trace: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:39] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : both available to you then :)
[05:39] <trace> crimsun: says no sounds cards
[05:39] <IdleOne> p2p isnt only for downloading music and movies there are alot of helpful files that can be downloaded using p2p :)
[05:39] <Jeffrae> hell has anyone done sudo make-kpkg modules_image
[05:39] <Jeffrae>  before?
[05:39] <Drac[Server] > bimberi: Yay! :D
[05:39] <crimsun> trace: ok, unload it, try snd-cs4236 or snd-cs4232
[05:39] <crimsun> trace: I'm off to bed.
[05:39] <Hexidigital> idleone, when i use windows and it crashes, that's were i get all of my .dll files from
[05:39] <prop2> nalioth, thank you
[05:39] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   perhaps allow users to change their preferences, just have their /home mounted from a server so that their preferences follow them around the network.  doing that and disallowing sudo access should prevent most problems that come to mind right now
[05:40] <trace> crimsun: ok ty
[05:40] <Hexidigital> !frostwire
[05:40] <trace> crimsun: good nite ;)
[05:40] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick, I plan to do that, also. This is just for additional safety. :P
[05:40] <syllogism> where does libstdc++ come from? - the gcc* source files?
[05:40] <FliesLikeABrick> well Drac[Server]   without sudo none of those things on the menu can be used to modify any important configuration settings
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> IdleOne but unfortunately p2p clients for windows entirely too often are loaded with spyware and back doors (kazaa, limewire, and many others come to mind quickly)
[05:41] <prop2> nalioth, besides the url you give me, there is some tool with a frontend that enable Search features?
[05:41] <Jeffrae> Hello can someone asnwer a "make-kpkg modules_image
[05:41] <Jeffrae> " question?
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> IdleOne  even if they have useful files.  plus there are too many viruses that propagate through p2p by posing as useful files
[05:41] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick, right, but if the computers are supposed to look uniform, kids playing around with the themes and junk wouldn't be a good idea.
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> point taken Drac[Server] 
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> Jeffrae  we are here to answer questions ;)
[05:41] <IdleOne> FliesLikeABrick, that was my legal disclaimer so I dont get sued for promoting p2p :)
[05:41] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:41] <Jeffrae> I am running sudo make-kpkg modules_image
[05:41] <Hexidigital> !dos2unix
[05:41] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hexidigital
[05:42] <Jeffrae> I am doing this to compile the lirc-modules-source I got from synaptic
[05:42] <FliesLikeABrick> IdleOne  I doubt there are any representatives of the RIAA and other organizations lurking here looking for targets.
[05:42] <IdleOne> :)
[05:42] <Jeffrae> lirc is the only thing in usr/src/modules directory
[05:42] <Jeffrae> for some reason I get a million one question when executing sudo make-kpkg modules_image
[05:43] <Jeffrae> is there a way to just have it take what is already in place?
[05:43] <Jeffrae> I don't want to change anything
[05:43] <Jeffrae> all I want to do is compile a lirc module
[05:43] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   the more I think about it, the more I want to set up a bunch of desktops in my house and play with kerberos and network homes on them ;)
[05:43] <nalioth> prop2: system > help
[05:43] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick: Hehehe.
[05:44] <bimberi> Hexidigital: try '/msg ubotu find dos2unix'
[05:44] <allen> hey
[05:44] <allen> anyone there?
[05:44] <Jeffrae> am I missing a switch?
[05:44] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell allen about ask
[05:45] <prop2> nalioth, thank you very much!!
[05:45] <FliesLikeABrick> hm, allen just joined, asked if anyone was here, then ran off after being prompted to ask a question
[05:45] <mattt_> how can i install ubuntu on a partition i've already got setup?  i want to dual boot but i don't want ubuntu's installer going any where near the partition table and i don't want it reformatting disks
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Matt_ clarify "set up"
[05:46] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ run the install CD and choose to set up the partitions manually rather than using the guided partitioning
[05:46] <Jeffrae> is there another channel wher eI may want to ask my question?
[05:46] <mattt_> Dr_Willis: it exists, it's got a filesystem
[05:47] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ all you have to do is tell it what partition to install on, then it won't change anything.  it will verify before it makes any changes (unlike other proprietary operating systems)
[05:47] <mattt_> hmm
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> mattt_,  so you got an existing filesystem with data on it you want to install ubuntu to?  no 'unallocated' space?
[05:47] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ just remember to "configure partitions manually" rather than use guided partitioning.  it is very easy to see how to do it after that
[05:47] <mattt_> Dr_Willis: yeah
[05:48] <mattt_> FliesLikeABrick: yeah, i tried that, but i must have missed something.. then i just tried going to the install menu and skipping the partitioning part.. i saw a dialog come up saying something like "repartitioning disks"
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> mattt_,  Im thinking you are trying to do somthing sort of odd. :)    or you are not explaining somthing very well.
[05:48] <mattt_> nearly had a heart attack :O
[05:48] <mattt_> mashed the reset button :P
[05:48] <FliesLikeABrick> no worries Dr_Willis, I understand him
[05:48] <Jeffrae> can someone help me with make-kpkg modules_image?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> FliesLikeABrick,  sounds like he wants 2 linux disrtos on the same filesystem/partition. ?
[05:48] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_  you have to tell it to use that partition, not to format it(it is default not to format), and tell it to mount it at /
[05:48] <mattt_> Dr_Willis: i'm running gentoo, my HD already has a variety of partitions.  i want to install ubuntu on one of those partitions
[05:49] <mattt_> FliesLikeABrick: ok, thanks
[05:49] <tristanmike> mattt_, also read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto/  for making a boot floppy so you don't write over your mbr
[05:49] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ odds are that you forgot to tell it to mount and use as / last time
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> mattt_,  ok - that clear things up. :p
[05:49] <tristanmike> mattt_, that's if you don't want to write over your mbr that is
[05:49] <mattt_> hm
[05:50] <FliesLikeABrick> it sounds like mattt_ understands the logistics of the mbr and what he wants to do, he just needed to know the specifics of how to get it to do what he wanted ;)
[05:50] <mattt_> can i set it up to use my existing grub installation?
[05:50] <mattt_> during the install process, that is
[05:50] <boo> hey, i have a logitech keyboard with play pause, ect buttons on top, is there any way i can use them.
[05:50] <mattt_> FliesLikeABrick: i just needed to make sure i wasn't gonna loose 100+GB of data :P
[05:50] <tristanmike> FliesLikeABrick, that's cool, I misunderstood, I was thinking he didn't want to touch that at all
[05:50] <Jeffrae> can someone help me with make-kpkg modules_image?
[05:50] <FliesLikeABrick> yes mattt_ just tell it not to install grub when it asks.  or mattt_ it is safe to have the ubuntu install grub again as long as the installer finds all the other operating systems
[05:51] <mattt_> snap
[05:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Jeffrae about repeat
[05:51] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ it will say "we found these other operating systems : <list of OS here>.  if all your operating systems are shown, it is  most likely safe to isntall grub again"
[05:51] <Jeffrae> sorry
[05:52] <Jeffrae> is there another channel where I may want to ask?
[05:52] <Jeffrae> I have been searching the forums
[05:52] <`Boo`> hey, i have a logitech keyboard with play pause, ect buttons on top, is there any way i can use them.
[05:52] <FliesLikeABrick> Jeffrae  you may ask here, just don't repeant over and over and have a bit of patience
[05:52] <FliesLikeABrick> repeat*
[05:52] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:52] <Jeffrae> sorry dude
[05:52] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo` what keyboard?
[05:53] <mattt_> yeah.. i got a whacked out booting setup though.  i installed an SATA drive (and hw controller - no onboard support) along side my existing ata drive, but my mobo wouldn't boot from the sata drive.. so i had to setup a boot partition on the ata drive (for grub and kernel), then use the sata as the root drive :P
[05:53] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  see if these results help you out: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=logitech+keyboard+buttons+ubuntu+play+pause&btnG=Search
[05:53] <`Boo`> its a logitech wireless keyboard
[05:54] <morpheus2485> join #c++
[05:54] <Eleaf> will somebody nmap ethanlofton.no-ip.org and see what is open for me?
[05:54] <morpheus2485> oops...
[05:54] <morpheus2485> i hate that
[05:55] <NickGarvey> oh eleay
[05:55] <NickGarvey> I did
[05:55] <Eleaf> oh cool
[05:55] <NickGarvey> yeah its long gone though
[05:55] <NickGarvey> oh wait!
[05:55] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, what happened?
[05:55] <Eleaf> hmm
[05:55] <NickGarvey> clipboard restorer
[05:55] <Eleaf> lol
[05:55] <NickGarvey> mwahaha knew it would come in handy
[05:55] <`Boo`> FliesLikeABrick, it doesnt work
[05:56] <NickGarvey> http://pastebin.com/615637
[05:56] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  what did you do to try and get it to work?
[05:56] <FliesLikeABrick> and can you please tell me the model of your keyboard, rather than just "logitech wireless keyboard" ?
[05:56] <`Boo`> i dont know where to start, the volume and mute work.
[05:56] <Jeffrae> Does make-kpkg modules_image  have a switch or something to bypass all of the questions and just leave eveything as is?
[05:56] <`Boo`> cordless elite duo.
[05:57] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: mind a security test?
[05:57] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, what do you mean?
[05:57] <NickGarvey> see if I can get into your system?
[05:57] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=125333
[05:57] <mattt_> hm, ubuntu doesn't setup ndiswrapper for wireless biz during installation, eh?
[05:57] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, lol, why?
[05:57] <malv> incase you need some file and are not sure which package contains that file, try to use http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:57] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, what ports are open?  just msg me
[05:57] <malv> what an immensely useful tool
[05:57] <sail_> join #ubuntu-cn
[05:58] <FliesLikeABrick> Jeffrae  do make-kpkg --help and see if it has a "quiet" option
[05:58] <FliesLikeABrick> Jeffrae  or man make-kpkg and see if it has a "quiet" option there
[05:58] <silvaran> Matthewv: Nope... apt-get install ndis-utils (I think), and you need your windows drivers.
[05:58] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:58] <Jeffrae> I did the help one with no luck
[05:59] <Jeffrae> I will try the man manual
[05:59] <morfeus>  if [ [ "$lists" -ge 1 ]  && [ "$syntaks" != "0" ]  ]   <--it says too many arguments
[05:59] <silvaran> Whoops, ndiswrapper-utils
[05:59] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  after doing anything with X configuration for your keyboard you will likely have to restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:59] <morfeus> if [ "$lists" -ge 1 && "$syntaks" != "0" ]   <--what is wrong with this?
[05:59] <`Boo`> rgr
[05:59] <venox> is there any cron frontend?
[05:59] <Jeffrae> FliesLikeABrick, have you ever used  make-kpkg moduls_image?
[05:59] <Abnix> can anyone tell me what I broke?  everytime I try to run a requires-root program I input my password and get "Failed to run **** as user root. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[06:00] <FliesLikeABrick> no Jeffrae  I have not, I'm just suggesting using the normal methods that I use to find options like that
[06:00] <miguel> hi all. I'm new to ubuntu and linux systems. i'd like to have developing tools installed. is there some easy way to get it? like the 'add application' tool.
[06:00] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, ?
[06:00] <NickGarvey> I msged you I thought
[06:01] <pvd2006> What is the command to see how much space you have left on linux again?
[06:01] <pvd2006> My head went blank
[06:01] <NickGarvey> du
[06:01] <NickGarvey> wait
[06:01] <FliesLikeABrick> pvd2006  df -h
[06:01] <NickGarvey> that shows how much you have used
[06:01] <NickGarvey> okie
[06:01] <pvd2006> df, thats right, thanks
[06:01] <Jeffrae> FliesLikeABrick, no quiet option
[06:01] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, it didn't show up
[06:01] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, are you registered?
[06:01] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, just join #blendistribute
[06:01] <Jeffrae> FliesLikeABrick, if I press enter it will take a default, but i have been pressing enter for like 5 minutes now hahaahahah
[06:02] <pvd2006> crap, I only have 2.2gigs left on my linux partition. I need to start saving stuff to my windows partition but when I try to right click and save as to hdc1 it won't save it just says the file is automatically done.
[06:02] <VR_> is there an official ubuntu blog of some kind where i can keep up with the news?
[06:02] <Abnix> oh, huh, I think I found out why...     Why is it my fresh install of this...OS has used 100% of my 72gig drive?
[06:02] <Abnix> I mean this is crazy! /dev/hda1              72G   69G     0 100% /
[06:02] <miguel> hi all. I'm new to ubuntu and linux systems. i'd like to have developing tools installed. is there some easy way to get it? like the 'add application' tool. anyone?
[06:02] <FliesLikeABrick> perhaps you should just go through all the defaults, it may be faster than looking for an option that may not exist.  where can I install this make-kpkg command so I can help you better?
[06:02] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell miguel  about repeat
[06:03] <pvd2006> that means you have 69gigs free, abnix
[06:03] <pvd2006> I think
[06:03] <Abnix> no
[06:03] <Abnix> it means that I am using 100% of my drive
[06:03] <Drac[Server] > Volume controls don't work for the new user I created. Is there a "sound" group I need to add it to?
[06:03] <FliesLikeABrick> no pvd2006  I think he's right
[06:03] <pvd2006> abnix, from installing what OS, ubuntu?
[06:03] <FliesLikeABrick> Abnix  perhaps you have some program that filled the drive up with logs?
[06:03] <Abnix> pvd2006: yup
[06:03] <nalioth> miguel: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[06:03] <FliesLikeABrick> pvd2006  he came to this channel with that concern, so it is a safe bet that he's talking about ubuntu
[06:04] <FliesLikeABrick> Abnix  do this "sudo du -h /home"
[06:04] <pvd2006> abnix, that is crazy
[06:04] <Abnix> hmm, so it's something in my home dir....
[06:04] <Abnix> 64G     /home
[06:04] <pvd2006> wow!
[06:04] <pvd2006> :-x
[06:04] <FliesLikeABrick> mk, now use that same command to track down what folder in /home is doing it
[06:05] <miguel> thanks!
[06:05] <pvd2006> would there be a reason why when I try to save as link through firefox it wont save to my windows NTFS partition? It just says its the file is done downloading but theres nothing in it.
[06:05] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to design a Linux installation that will work for my school. Please help. This new user lacks control of sound stuff. What gives?
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> pvd2006  linux currently cannot write to NTFS filesystems
[06:06] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, ? lol
[06:06] <_6ix_> I'm trying to share a drive with an XP box right now.  I have a couple questions.  Do I have to "boot" SAMBA, or is it automatically running?
[06:06] <Abnix> hahaha you guys are gonna LOVE this
[06:06] <Abnix> -rw-------   1 abner abner  64G 2006-03-21 23:06 .xsession-errors
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> _6ix_  samba starts at boot if it is installed
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> haha Abnix
[06:06] <pvd2006> .xession-errors taking up 64gigs, that is crazy. I am going to have to watch that.
[06:07] <FliesLikeABrick> Abnix  just remove that directory or all of the stuff in it and watch it as it grows again
[06:07] <FliesLikeABrick> see what is causing the problems
[06:07] <_6ix_> Okay.  Next question.  I have this ready made form I found on the Wiki to help me, called "smb.conf".  What dir should that go in?
[06:07] <FliesLikeABrick> _6ix_  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:07] <Abnix> FliesLikeABrick: yea, I would hav eliked to see what was in that file, but I know better than to try and open a 64 GIG file for 'browsing'
[06:08] <_6ix_> /etc/samba?
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah Abnix  just remove it and watch it while it is small
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> yes _6ix_
[06:08] <_6ix_> Oh, okay, thanks
[06:08] <Drac[Server] > Gah... I need to get to sleep soon... Will somebody tell me why a newly created user can't access the sound controls?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> 'using Samba' is a book. thats aviliable online.. and well worth reading - for all your samba needs
[06:08] <_6ix_> I just found it, sorry for asking...
[06:08] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : are they a member of the 'audio' group?
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   did you break access to the sound controls while pruning permissions?
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> ah yes that too
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> forgot about that
[06:08] <Drac[Server] > How do I edit groups, again?
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   adduser <username> <groupname>
[06:08] <Drac[Server] > Ah.
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> to see if a user is a member of a group
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> do
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> groups <username>
[06:09] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : or System -> Administration -> Users & Groups
[06:09] <FliesLikeABrick> i'm assuming knowing the command line commands would be useful in case you plan to write a script to automate permissions setting on those desktops
[06:09] <`Boo`> whats xF86Config-4
[06:10] <mconroy> Does anyone know where to find the kernel source for ver 2.6.12.9.... I can only find 2.6.12.6 and below. Any ideas?
[06:10] <FliesLikeABrick> mconroy  www.kernel.org
[06:10] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : you're aware of edubuntu? - http://edubuntu.org/
[06:10] <mconroy> tried that site, and can only find 2.6.12.6
[06:10] <FliesLikeABrick> ah yeah Drac[Server]  bimberi I completely forgot about that
[06:11] <malv> any good gnome music players besides rhythmbox?
[06:11] <GigaClon> XMMS
[06:11] <FliesLikeABrick> malv xmms
[06:11] <Abnix> xmms
[06:11] <NickGarvey> I like xmms but I have heard good things aboout bmp Malv
[06:11] <malv> eh, slightly more evolved
[06:11] <malv> something like a jukebox system
[06:11] <Drac[Server] > bimberi, yeah... Dapper is the only thing that likes this network card and stuff... I'll try edubuntu dapper if I can't get this working the way I want it to.
[06:11] <malv> yea, currently using bmp
[06:11] <tristanmike> malv, it's not gnome, but it works just dandy, amarok
[06:11] <Abnix> malv: try xine?
[06:12] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : kk, just checkin' :)
[06:12] <`Boo`> still doesnt work FliesLikeABrick
[06:12] <`Boo`> i followed that config
[06:12] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  you restarted X after making the changes?
[06:12] <`Boo`> er, that tut.
[06:12] <`Boo`> oh
[06:12] <`Boo`> doh
[06:12] <`Boo`> brb
[06:13] <grateful> whats the easiest way to add a new (empty) to ubuntu   ?  I have plugged it in and it is set to slave, but how do I get ubuntu to recognize it?
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  hard drive you mean?
[06:13] <grateful> yes sorry
[06:13] <grateful> i thought i typed that
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  would you rather use command line tools or graphical tools?
[06:14] <rasmus> Anyone here have valgrind and valgrind-callgrind installed where valgrind is version 2.x instead of 3.x?
[06:14] <grateful> command line is good
[06:14] <NickGarvey> grateful: first IDE channel?
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful  I'll help you out
[06:14] <grateful> thanks  flies
[06:14] <rasmus> I am having trouble getting a non 3.x combination of those two packages to install
[06:14] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: lol at that question
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> why bimberi ?
[06:14] <NickGarvey> grateful: asmmuing it is, mkdir /mnt/hdb1 && mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[06:14] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: in the context of earlier :)
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> bimberi  spell it out for me, i'm tired and miss the humor
[06:15] <grateful> btw it a second drive i already have one with ubuntu
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  do sudo fdisk -l and take note of the /dev/hdX device that has no partitions and is the right size (the same size as the drive you know you just added)
[06:15] <grateful> okay doing it
[06:15] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: nvm
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> no bimberi  you can't do that to me, I'm curious ;)
[06:15] <Davey> is there any application that can help me find what files and directories on my system are using up all ym space?
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> Davey  systematically use sudo du -h <folder path> to see what folders are using how much space
[06:16] <Eleaf> mmmmm
[06:16] <Abnix> Davey: are you having out of space issues like me?
[06:16] <Davey> FliesLikeABrick: yeah, thats not exactly what I had in mind
[06:16] <grateful> Disk /dev/hdb: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[06:16] <grateful>    is what it says
[06:16] <Davey> Abnix: yup
[06:16] <Abnix> it jsut....disappears....
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> Abnix  yeah you help him ;)
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful
[06:16] <grateful> followed by :  Disk /dev/hdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  do sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[06:17] <Abnix> FliesLikeABrick: oh I'm not outa the woods yet...
[06:17] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, are you like attacking me? lol
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> yep grateful  thats because its new.  we're going to partition it now.  do you know how many partitions you want on it?
[06:17] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: earlier you suggested adduser and groups, then i came in with the GUI method.  Now you offer either :)
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah Abnix  but you know the place he should check if his space is disappearing for no reason :P
[06:17] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:17] <grateful> just one parttion
[06:17] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: you didn't give me an ok
[06:17] <Abnix> that space is still showing as gone, but a sudo du -h / shows only 5.6g, but a df -h shows 100% of my /
[06:17] <Davey> do I need to keep around my /var/cache/apt/archives?
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah bimberi, considering I own and operate about 15 servers I tend to be more of a command line type
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful
[06:17] <kuja> And look, it's rasmus. But why do I think it's not him? Oh, cause I think Rasmus wouldn't go Comcast :)
[06:18] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: I'm not a black hat :P
[06:18] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, lol
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  are you in the fdisk program?
[06:18] <grateful> i appreciate this a lot flies
[06:18] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: is that an ok?
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> np grateful, anything to help people get onto linux
[06:18] <Jeffrae> Goodnight all
[06:18] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, ;).  What ports did you see open?
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> gnite jeff
[06:18] <grateful> flies whats the command to enter it?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> ones in the paste bin
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[06:18] <ubuntu_> how do i get to the grub menu to add ubuntu back in the menu?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> I was going to attack the ftp port
[06:18] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, which one? lol
[06:18] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: and fair enough too
[06:18] <NickGarvey> check for weak users
[06:18] <NickGarvey> http://pastebin.com/615637
[06:19] <Eleaf> woah
[06:19] <grateful> FliesLikeABrick im in the fdisk prompt
[06:19] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, it actually shows those open? cool..
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> alrigt Grarg
[06:19] <Eleaf> wait
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  alright, type "n" then enter, then "p"
[06:19] <Eleaf> why does it actually show closed NickGarvey ?
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  that is telling it to greate a new partition of type primary
[06:19] <NickGarvey> no idea
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> oh sorry grateful  you don't need the enter after p I think
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  use common sense, i'll just tell you what to type ;)
[06:20] <grateful> it asks for partion number
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful 1
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> bimberi  well I don't want to help someone with a graphical method when they are better with console, and vice-versa
[06:20] <grateful> then it asks for first cylinder number
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  just hit enter
[06:20] <grateful> ok
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful then just hit enter for the end cylinder too
[06:21] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  that will tell it to use defaults
[06:21] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful (the whole drive)
[06:21] <grateful> then  it goes back to the prompt
[06:21] <vice-versa> FliesLikeABrick: thanks! :)
[06:21] <Aggrav8d> I have two machines on a LAN, one win32 one linux.  I set up a samba share that was working, then reinstalled everything on the win32 box.  now that box doesn't find the network neighborhood.  I know it's something stupid like setting up the...
[06:21] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful  now hit "w" to tell it to "write-out" the table to the drive
[06:21] <Aggrav8d> ...workgroup name, but I can't remember what to set it to.  where do i look?
[06:22] <grateful> its working
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  alright, does it say you need to reboot for it to take effect?
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> Aggrav8d  use  the same workgroup name as what you use on your windows computers
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> Aggrav8d  if you're using windows XP on the other computers, it doesn't matter much
[06:22] <chadstato> I am having a wierd problem with X11, I am using an Nvidia card and It has two outputs, A DVI and a VGA. The DVI goes to my primary display and the VGA goes to my secondary. My problem is that its sending the Primary display to the secondary monitor, How do I reverse the outputs on my card?
[06:22] <jbritz22> Hey all
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell jbritz22 about ask
[06:23] <grateful> last thing it said was syncing disks... then back to my shell
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> chadstato one second and I can tell you how to fix that
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful now do mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[06:23] <chadstato> I am running it with xinerama and not twinview.
[06:23] <jbritz22> Whats the most lightweight web browser for linux that retains the best page viewing quality?
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> chadstato ah well my solution may still work, hold on
[06:23] <bimberi> Aggrav8d: /etc/samba/smb.conf - search for workgroup
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> jbritz22 firefox for a real browser, or lynx for a text-based one
[06:23] <cerebrix> if anyone here has experience going thru the faq at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132406 please message me, got a few questions... thanks :)
[06:24] <regeya> what's the best car for the money, jbritz22?
[06:24] <jbritz22> Flieslikeabrick, firefox is not lightweight...
[06:24] <grateful> thanks flies.. now its  doing it
[06:24] <FliesLikeABrick> sorry jbritz22 just seemed like the right answer
[06:24] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  do you know where you want to mount this new drive?
[06:24] <grateful> writing inodes...
[06:24] <jbritz22> FliesLikeABrick, no prob, just everyone gives that now adays, XD
[06:24] <grateful> im not sure
[06:24] <FliesLikeABrick> well jbritz22  what specs does the machine have that you're looking to run it on?
[06:25] <regeya> seriously, what's the best car for the money
[06:25] <regeya> nobody ever gives the right answer XD
[06:25] <jbritz22> flieslikeabrick 600mhz, uhh, 256mb ram, 16mb vid car
[06:25] <regeya> hmm....wait a sec...
[06:25] <FliesLikeABrick> jbritz22 I've run firefox perfectly on far less than that, but it is up to you to find something lighter.  perhaps search through apt for options
[06:26] <grateful> is there a way i can see that drive through konqueror now?
[06:26] <FliesLikeABrick> haha jbritz22  look what apt says about firefox: firefox - lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
[06:26] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  wen eed to mount it somehwere in your filesystem first
[06:26] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  you're just looking to use it for storage?
[06:26] <FliesLikeABrick> we need*
[06:26] <grateful> flies yes
[06:27] <jbritz22> FliesLikeaBrick, Ok, I'll just fool around with some settings in firefox, one more question, why do I get a dcopserver erro r when trying tro run amarok on fluxnoxx?
[06:27] <slavik> if I have some modules black listed, when I dist_upgrade to dapper, will that blacklist be carried over to dapper?
[06:27] <jbritz22> FliesLikeABrick, fluxbox*
[06:27] <graft> anyone know anything about dovecot? I can't figure out how to get this thing to let me log in...
[06:27] <grateful> just for storage
[06:27] <regeya> how about opera, jbritz22?
[06:27] <graft> and the documentation is, typical of free software projects, less than adequate
[06:27] <FliesLikeABrick> jbritz22 try to use the fasterfox firefox extension to optimize your firefox configuration
[06:27] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  would mounting it at /storage be sufficient for you ? ;)
[06:27] <slavik> also, in breezy, how can I restart X? (ctrl+alt+backspace close it up completely and it has to be restarted with 'startx')
[06:27] <chadstato> Did you manage to find the xconfig thing?
[06:27] <grateful> flies sure
[06:28] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful, is this on a personal computer? if so, how many users?
[06:28] <_6ix_> Do I need to reboot for new SAMBA definitions to take place?
[06:28] <jbritz22> regeya, I dont like opera's page output, methinks, I'll stick with firefox, its helped me for a long time now, I shouldnt be so switch to ditch it
[06:28] <bimberi> slavik: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[06:28] <grateful> just me
[06:28] <graft> slavik: run ... yeah.
[06:28] <grateful> personal
[06:28] <slavik> ty, bimberi
[06:28] <FliesLikeABrick> _6ix_  no, just do sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:28] <bimberi> jbritz22: epiphany ?
[06:28] <_6ix_> Thanks
[06:28] <regeya> o_O
[06:28] <slavik> anyone know on the blacklist dist-upgrade issue?
[06:28] <jbritz22> bimberi, ill look it up
[06:28] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  alright then we'll mount it at /storage with your username as the owner
[06:28] <jbritz22> anyone got anyhing on my amarok issue?
[06:28] <graft> amarok issue?
[06:29] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  do sudo nano /etc/fstab, we're going to add a line in there to mount this drive at boot
[06:29] <louise> can someone tell me, what is the name of the new system-tray program for beagle? 'best' has disappeared
[06:29] <bimberi> jbritz22: kk - ubuntu package is 'epiphany-browser' btw
[06:29] <louise> in dapper
[06:29] <grateful> okay im in nano
[06:29] <jbritz22> bimbi, sweet
[06:29] <jbritz22> thanks ;)
[06:29] <bimberi> louise: i think the deskbar works with beagle
[06:29] <bimberi> jbritz22: yw :)
[06:29] <_6ix_> Why do you think there might be no "samba" file in /etc/init.d/?
[06:30] <louise> bimberi, deskbar?
[06:30] <graft> jbritz what's your amarok issue?
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  alright, type this into that file, as a new line.  I'll explain it afterwards.  /dev/hdb1 /storage  ext3 defaults 0 0
[06:30] <_6ix_> And yes, I have samba installed
[06:30] <regeya> jbritz22: epiphany.  uses gecko just as firefox does, tends to be a bit less top-heavy, and tends to be gnome-centric.
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  give meo ne second to get my laptop out and test something
[06:30] <louise> beagle has changed the name of it's system-tray client from best to something else, i've used it before but i've forgotten the name and i need to run it for a new syste,
[06:30] <regeya> if that floats your boat, rock on.
[06:30] <louise> system
[06:30] <jbritz22> does anyone know what a dcopserver error is?
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> jbritz22  did you google it?
[06:30] <bimberi> louise: a new and very nice little applet (right click on panel, select Add To Panel...,  at the top)
[06:31] <grateful> thanks flies  ,, i made that change and saved it
[06:31] <louise> bimberi, what's it called?
[06:31] <jbritz22> flieslikeabrick, yup nothing
[06:31] <jbritz22> !dcopserver
[06:31] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jbritz22
[06:31] <bimberi> louise: Deskbar
[06:31] <graft> jbritz22 you know what dcop is?
[06:32] <grateful> it shows up in konqueror now
[06:32] <malv> is there a way to remove the packages a meta package brings in?
[06:32] <malv> e.g. ubuntu-desktop?
[06:32] <regeya> jbritz, dcop is what kde uses for ipc
[06:32] <regeya> fyi
[06:32] <graft> malv: write clever recursive scripts using cat and awk and grep, etc.?
[06:33] <bimberi> malv: if you use aptitude to install them then it will know what to uninstall.  Otherwise there's debfoster
[06:33] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah grateful  but right now you can't write to it except as root,  thats what i'm looking for the best way to change
[06:33] <louise> bimberi, got it, awesome =)  couldn't see it before, it was too yellow
[06:33] <jbritz22> I get it whenever trying to run any kde program, im using fluxbox
[06:33] <grateful> okay
[06:33] <bimberi> louise: lol
[06:33] <malv> or i can recursively unclick everything in synaptic
[06:33] <malv> eh, might as well redo the chroot environment
[06:33] <regeya> jbritz22: what's the error?  that can't be everything...
[06:34] <jbritz22> here
[06:34] <jbritz22> ill pastebin it
[06:34] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful we're going to change the ownership of the mount point to the username that you use all the time, k?
[06:34] <Eleaf> somebody is trying to telnet into me
[06:34] <Eleaf> lol
[06:34] <grateful> again thanks in advance flies
[06:34] <regeya> rofflecopters.
[06:34] <FliesLikeABrick> np grateful.  do sudo mount /storage
[06:35] <FliesLikeABrick> then grateful  do sudo chown <your normal username> /storage
[06:35] <louise> bimberi, is there anything else but deskbar?
[06:35] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  or you can do sudo chmod 777 /storage
[06:35] <grateful> mount: mount point /storage does not exist
[06:35] <FliesLikeABrick> oh grateful do sudo mkdir /storage
[06:36] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  then do the last things i've said since mount /storage
[06:36] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  including mount
[06:36] <gtrplr> hello
[06:37] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell gtrplr  about ask
[06:37] <grateful> okay i did all that
[06:37] <FliesLikeABrick> mk grateful  now try saving something in /storage
[06:37] <FliesLikeABrick> or making a folder in konqueror
[06:37] <jbritz22> first I will give you the text that comes up int he terminal
[06:37] <bimberi> louise: i don't know sorry.  That probably wasn't the answer to your original question.
[06:37] <gtrplr> I have a windows partition that I can not get to without root perm, I am owner
[06:37] <jbritz22> http://pastebin.com/615652
[06:38] <grateful> thanks so much flies
[06:38] <FliesLikeABrick> np grateful, just pass it on by helping someone else when you have the ability to ;)
[06:38] <vars> how do i use cli to zip a folder
[06:38] <grateful> I REALLY appreciate all that you have helped
[06:38] <louise> bimberi, deskbar looks interesting, but i need to be able to type in stuff and have results come up instantly
[06:38] <graft> jbritz22, is KDE installed?
[06:38] <grateful> the IRC gods have spoken...
[06:39] <bimberi> louise: yes, you need someone who knows beagle better than me
[06:39] <DarthShrine> Afternoon.
[06:39] <grateful> thanks again
[06:39] <vars> anyone?
[06:39] <gtrplr> how do I change permission on a NTFS folder?
[06:39] <graft> vars: there's a 'zip' utility
[06:39] <vars> gtrplr, i think you can with sudo
[06:39] <gtrplr> vars, what do you mean
[06:39] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr just a moment, let me refresh my memory then i'll let you know
[06:39] <jbritz22> graft, just the libs
[06:39] <gtrplr> vars, I tried
[06:39] <jbritz22> graft, just installed amarok, and all the required dependicies
[06:39] <graft> or you can make a tarball, tar -czf or tar -cjf <files>
[06:39] <vars> what is the command to zip a folder
[06:40] <pk_volt> how do I use pscp to transfer a file from windows to linux?
[06:40] <gtrplr> vars, zip
[06:40] <graft> jbritz22: um... ah... well, does ~/.kde exists?
[06:40] <vars> i need to transfer it to windows
[06:40] <thenuke> gtrplr: http://www.psychocats.net/linux/mountwindows.php
[06:40] <gtrplr> look at the help
[06:40] <liquidboy> i'm having a problem with tuxkart. i get the start screen, but it's very slow, and when i click "play" the window goes away... something about hardware accelleration?
[06:40] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr alright I've got it
[06:40] <graft> pk_volt: you have to connect from windows to linux
[06:41] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr  do you mount it using /etc/fstab ?
[06:41] <graft> windows has no remote capability whatsoever, because it sucks
[06:41] <jbritz22> graft, in the root directory?
[06:41] <Madpilot> liquidboy, have you got 3d drivers installed for your graphics card?
[06:41] <graft> jbritz22: no, in your home directory... /home/jbritz22/.kde
[06:41] <graft> does it exist?
[06:41] <gtrplr> FliesLikeABrick, yes, but as media/hda1
[06:41] <pk_volt> graft - what command do I type in dos to connect to it
[06:41] <thenuke> gtrplr: in my url, you find info about howto mount windows partition automagically (fstab) and so that you dont need to be root to access it
[06:41] <pk_volt> and send a file
[06:41] <jbritz22> graft, lemme check
[06:41] <liquidboy> probably not
[06:41] <graft> pk_volt: get winSCP3 via google
[06:41] <jbritz22> graft, nopers
[06:41] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr when you mount it, mount it with the option uid=<the username you want to access it from>
[06:42] <graft> jbritz22: create it... that might solve your problems
[06:42] <liquidboy> Madpilot, im just using the default ones that came with ubuntu 5.10 - i've got an S3 prosavage ddr graphics card
[06:42] <FliesLikeABrick> that will allow that user to read it, rather than having to be root
[06:42] <jbritz22> ok maybe it is there
[06:42] <liquidboy> Madpilot, i was told that s3 = sucks
[06:42] <bimberi> jbritz22: looks to me like some of your files have become owned by root - 'sudo chown -R jbritz22:jbritz22 /home/jbritz22'
[06:42] <liquidboy> don't know if thats true or not
[06:42] <jbritz22> graft, mkdir: cannot create directory `.kde': File exists
[06:42] <Madpilot> liquidboy, you might be right, at least for 3d stuff - I run an ATI board myself
[06:42] <gtrplr> FliesLikeABrick, will do. Its odd not having a root user
[06:43] <concept10> liquidboy, I have that same card in my music production box
[06:43] <chadstato> FliesLikeABrick: Have you found the thing that will reverse the displays?
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> no chadstato  sorry, my way is for twinview only :-/
[06:43] <Blue-Steel> is the #root passwd the same as the user passwd  on ubuntu ?
[06:43] <liquidboy> if there are 3d drivers for my card, would they be avaliable in synaptic?
[06:43] <graft> jbritz22: check permissions/ownership on it
[06:43] <concept10> liquidboy, and its not great at all, slow refreshes
[06:43] <graft> make sure you can write to it...
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr root exists, ubuntu just doesn't use it by default
[06:43] <jbritz22> graft, is there a command for that
[06:43] <bimberi> Blue-Steel: no, the root password is not set, so the account can't be logged into
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> doesn't use it directly, rather
[06:44] <graft> jbritz22: yeah, ls -l /home/jbritz22/.kde
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> bimberi  i just want to su to root
[06:44] <liquidboy> concept10, oh yep, that makes sence, i had serious lag issues with metacity in gnome (the windows lagged severely when i dragged them around)
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> andredekito
[06:44] <graft> Blue-Steel: sudo -i
[06:44] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel  in order to su to root, you have to do sudo passwd to set a root password
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> ups
[06:44] <Blue-Steel>  ok
[06:44] <bimberi> Blue-Steel: sudo -i     <--  gets you a root shell
[06:44] <cerebrix>  if anyone here has experience going thru the faq at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132406 please message me, got a few questions... thanks :)
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> ah
[06:44] <FliesLikeABrick> oh sorry Blue-Steel do what bimberi  said
[06:44] <Madpilot> !tell Blue-Steel about sudo
[06:45] <gtrplr> FliesLikeABrick, you saved me
[06:45] <gtrplr> thanks!
[06:46] <FliesLikeABrick> np gtrplr, I'm here to help
[06:47] <graft> just out of curiosity, why do people hang out here and answer questions?
[06:47] <pk_volt> how do i find my hostname?
[06:47] <Blue-Steel> to help each other
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  cat /etc/hostname
[06:48] <jadaz87> can anyone tell me what the command is for listing all of the channels on a ircserver?
[06:48] <graft> pk_volt: cat /etc/hostname
[06:48] <Blue-Steel>  /list
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> jadams  usually it is /list
[06:48] <graft> jadaz87: /list -YES, usually
[06:48] <jadaz87> oh ok thanks
[06:48] <graft> but probably a bad idea
[06:48] <Tido> could take awhile to list them all lol
[06:48] <michael> how do i start the graphical search from terminal?
[06:48] <jadaz87> graft oh why whould you say that?
[06:48] <pk_volt> and how do I start ssh server
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  apt-get install ssh
[06:48] <pk_volt> i installed it already
[06:48] <graft> jadaz87: you'll get about 150,024 pages of spam
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> er pk_volt  sudo apt-get install ssh*
[06:49] <pk_volt> how do I start it
[06:49] <jadaz87> oh ok
[06:49] <gtrplr> brb
[06:49] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  it is usually started after it is installed
[06:49] <pk_volt> hrm
[06:49] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  but if not, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:49] <jbritz22> graft, http://pastebin.com/615664
[06:49] <jbritz22> graft, theres the permissions on .kde
[06:49] <bimberi> michael: gnome-search-tool
[06:49] <michael> ty
[06:49] <graft> jbritz22: err crap... you need to do ls -al
[06:49] <jbritz22> graft, ok
[06:50] <pk_volt> it says "Open bsd secure shell       [FAILED] 
[06:50] <jbritz22> graft, http://pastebin.com/615666
[06:50] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt check your logs to see why it failed
[06:51] <bimberi> jbritz22: still looks to me like some of your files have become owned by root - 'sudo chown -R jbritz22:jbritz22 /home/jbritz22'
[06:51] <michael> ok, didn't find it, i have my Nomad Creative Jukebox mounted using gnomad2, where is that mount point?
[06:51] <pk_volt> which logfile do i look for in /var/log
[06:51] <graft> jbritz22: yeah, bimberi is correct
[06:51] <graft> that's your problem
[06:52] <liquidboy> Madpilot, i searched synaptic, for 'savage' - i saw the drivers that were installed, but there were none saying they were 3d drivers.. i guess that means there aren't any for my graphics card?
[06:52] <FliesLikeABrick> i'm not sure pk_volt
[06:52] <cerebrix> anyone here ever built xgl and compiz from cvs?  im trying to build libs and getting a lot of errors.  never built anything this big before so im wondering if these errors are ok
[06:52] <pk_volt> err
[06:52] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  try doing grep -R ssh /var/log | grep fail
[06:52] <jbritz22> blimberi, ok did that, now should I try amarok?
[06:52] <graft> cerebrix: don't bother, compiz and xgl are both in dapper
[06:52] <bimberi> gksudo
[06:52] <Madpilot> liquidboy, I don't know anything about s3/savage vid cards, really
[06:52] <bimberi> jbritz22: yep
[06:52] <bimberi> !gksudo
[06:53] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[06:53] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  that might show you which log file it is in
[06:53] <bimberi> jbritz22: ^^^^ that might be why
[06:53] <liquidboy> Madpilot, oh yep, thanks anywya
[06:53] <cerebrix> theres a bug in that version that the latest cvs fixes for nvidia cards. wasnt added until yesterday or the day before i believe
[06:53] <liquidboy> *anywya
[06:53] <Blue-Steel> what am i missing here to start sshd ? its installed and not when i try to start it it gives me {Fail}
[06:53] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel  it sounds like you're having the same problem as pk_volt
[06:54] <graft> cerebrix: ah... can't wait like four days or whatever it'll take 'em? :P
[06:54] <jbritz22> blimberi, nike! no errors
[06:54] <bimberi> just do it :P
[06:54] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel  i'm working with pk_volt  to track down the right error log right now
[06:54] <FliesLikeABrick> anyone know what log would contain sshd errors?
[06:54] <Blue-Steel> ok
[06:54] <pk_volt> hrm
[06:54] <graft> maybe daemon.log
[06:54] <pk_volt> nothing showed up
[06:54] <pk_volt> gonna try rebooting
[06:54] <FliesLikeABrick> no pk_volt  don't bother
[06:54] <ic56> FliesLikeABrick: /var/log/auth.log
[06:55] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  try tail /var/log/daemon.log or tail /var/log/auth.log
[06:55] <cerebrix> kind of doing it for the learning experience of building something large as well
[06:55] <cerebrix> nothing on tv tonight =p
[06:55] <FliesLikeABrick> ic56  would that contain runtime problems with sshd rather than just authentication problems?
[06:55] <graft> it's auth.log i think
[06:55] <graft> at least i have ssh crap in mine
[06:55] <jbritz22> thanks everyone who helped me :D
[06:55] <michael> how can I find the mount point of my creative nomad jukebox?
[06:55] <FliesLikeABrick> michael  cat /etc/mtab and look for /dev/sda1
[06:56] <PokerFacePenguin> auth.log is for connection attempts and whatnot...it sounds as if his service isn't starting
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> yes PokerFacePenguin  I know, we're trying to find out why it isn't starting
[06:56] <ic56> FliesLikeABrick: yes, auth should contain all sshd output.
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> which is why I didn't think we should look in auth.log
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> alright  ic56  thanks
[06:56] <vook> michael, df also is a good choice
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel try tail /var/log/auth.log and tell me what it says
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> FliesLikeABrick: /var/log/messages
[06:56] <malv> ok, i have something funny to say
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah Blue-Steel  tail everything recently mentioned here and look for problems ;)
[06:57] <malv> so I did an rm -rf on my /chroot directory and I forgot to unbind home in my fstab
[06:57] <Blue-Steel> i was tailing /var/log/messages and nothing
[06:57] <Blue-Steel>  let me see that one
[06:57] <malv> my mighty porn collection is now gone
[06:57] <PokerFacePenguin> FliesLikeABrick: might be easier to cat the file and grep for ssh
[06:57] <malv> along with some lesser important things
[06:57] <FliesLikeABrick> PokerFacePenguin  don't tell me, tell them ;)
[06:57] <malv> is there anyway to retrieve that porn somehow? I am using reiser
[06:57] <graft> messages won't have ssh stuff
[06:57] <Blue-Steel> ah ! fatal . cant bind port 22 to 0.0.0.0
[06:57] <FliesLikeABrick> there you go
[06:57] <PokerFacePenguin> :)  just makin a suggest
[06:58] <FliesLikeABrick> is ssh already running you guys?
[06:58] <pk_volt> i don't get any errors
[06:58] <graft> malv... there's some file recovery tools
[06:58] <pk_volt> i do a ps -ef | grep ssh
[06:58] <vook> malv, it's only wednesday man, that is friday night jabber
[06:58] <michael> Can you tell me which one it is mounted to?     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10627
[06:58] <pk_volt> and it says /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:58] <FliesLikeABrick> michael  thanks for using pastebin.  it does not appear to be mounted
[06:59] <malv> well, luckily I always back up my data, and everthing is stored using svn
[06:59] <pk_volt> but when i try to login using winSCP
[06:59] <pk_volt> it says no host found
[06:59] <malv> except the porn of course
[06:59] <vook> for shame
[06:59] <michael> and yet i'm getting info from it using gnomad2?? kinda like the windows problem i had with this brand
[06:59] <graft> pk_volt: ssh localhost?
[06:59] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt host not found?  that is more than your ssh not just listening
[06:59] <FliesLikeABrick> graft i'm guessing he's trying from another comp, on windows
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  are you using the correct local IP?
[07:00] <graft> FliesLikeABrick: yeah, but he can test to see if his ssh server works that way
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> agreed graft
[07:00] <pk_volt> where do I typ in teh ip in winscp?
[07:00] <pk_volt> oh wiat
[07:00] <pk_volt> I have to do hostname@ip?
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  on the linux box try doing ssh localhost at the command line
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> if that gives ytou something aside from an error, it is working
[07:01] <Blue-Steel> well for some reason  i cant bind port 22 to any address ....
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> and no pk_volt  you just give it an IP
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel  is it because ssh is already running?
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel try ssh localhost
[07:01] <pk_volt> ok
[07:01] <pk_volt> i logged in'
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> k pk_volt  it is working fine then
[07:01] <vook> malv, just a plug for xfs, the tools are outstanding and effective.
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> I suspect Blue-Steel  is doing the same thing and trying to start ssh when it is already running
[07:01] <damian_> do i change gnome panels application button icon?
[07:01] <damian_> i couldnt find the ubuntu logo anywhere
[07:02] <MarcC> anybody have a jabber account I can PM real quick to test? :D
[07:02] <pk_volt> working good
[07:02] <pk_volt> thanks
[07:02] <Blue-Steel> yes working
[07:02] <Blue-Steel> restart  solved it
[07:02] <damian_> not in /usr/share/icons or */pixmaps
[07:02] <graft> malv check out http://e2undel.sourceforge.net/recovery-howto.html
[07:02] <FliesLikeABrick> MarcC  you can PM me
[07:02] <PokerFacePenguin> MarcC: jabberinjoe@kdetalk.net
[07:02] <malv> yep, found a way to recover with reiserfsck
[07:02] <MarcC> ok, thanks :)
[07:02] <rss> Hi! PS/2 Optical mouse is not working, it is not even displaying the light in Breezy, any known fix for this, this is same as bug#16723
[07:02] <graft> oh wait reiser anyway...
[07:02] <malv> me and my porn thank you
[07:03] <graft> so should everyone be using reiser at this point anyway? or is there not that much point?
[07:04] <graft> rss if it's not even lighting up i would guess it's just broken...
[07:05] <rss> graft: It is working perfectly well in Windoze XP
[07:05] <rss> graft: also in the live cd
[07:05] <graft> rss well... hrm... is it USB mouse?
[07:05] <rss> graft: PS/2
[07:05] <graft> rss oh duh... and your mouse line in xorg.conf is...?
[07:06] <rss> graft: I tried /dev/input/mice and also /dev/psaux with protocol as "intellimouse"
[07:07] <rss> graft: it was working with /dev/input/mice and intellimouse in the live cd and fedora
[07:07] <graft> rss protocol oughta be like... ImPS/2 or something
[07:07] <rss> graft: tried even that
[07:08] <graft> well bugger
[07:08] <graft> i still don't get why it wouldn't even light up... that's not normal...
[07:08] <graft> that's like a basic machine-level thing
[07:09] <graft> um... you'd probably hit me, but did you check the plug?
[07:09] <FliesLikeABrick> I agree iwht graft
[07:09] <FliesLikeABrick> with*
[07:11] <CoolGal22> This is a real newb question but can anyone tell me why certain applications will not minimize the the taskbar? They just "dissapear"
[07:11] <DarthShrine> In the Ubuntu 5.10 LiveCD, my "0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)" was working perfectly. I installed from the LiveCD, and now the audio is not working. What can I do to get it working again?
[07:11] <FliesLikeABrick> DarthLappy  may I ask why you installed from the LiveCD instead of an install CD?
[07:12] <graft> those LiveCDs are always so much better than real installs...
[07:12] <graft> Knoppix always does stuff with my computers that i never even knew they could do...
[07:12] <DarthShrine> FliesLikeABrick, 1) Didn't need to download another image, 2) Didn't need to use another CD, 3) Why bother to do that when I can install from a LiveCD?
[07:12] <graft> i mean... wtf... why don't they just make the whole OS behave like that all the time, with that autoconfiguration?
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> fair enough DarthLappy  just asking
[07:12] <pk_volt> I'm trying to install the ati fglrx drivers for my laptop, but i get an error in a log saying precompiled kernel version mismatch
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell pk_volt about ati
[07:13] <DarthShrine> graft, Yeah.
[07:13] <vice-versa> anyone here using a Acer Travelmate 2300?
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  have you followed the instructions in that message you just got from ubotu ?
[07:13] <DarthShrine> I installed the 2.6.12-10-686-smp kernel, and VMWare broke :(
[07:13] <pk_volt> looking
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> DarthLappy  you probably need to recompile the module used by vmware for the new kernel
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> unless I'm just thinking of the VMWare server
[07:14] <Blue-Steel> no amsn on apt-get ? whats the name  that ubuntu uses for it ?
[07:15] <DarthLappy> FliesLikeABrick, Yeah, I had to run vmware-config.pl again, but it froze twice, and VMWare crashed when I ran it after getting the module to compile, then it froze again
[07:15] <gn0me> When I run normal X, I have direct rendering. When I run Xgl, I don't.. Might anyone have a similar issue?
[07:15] <nalioth> Blue-Steel: amsn is in the repos, make sure you have universe an multiverse repos enabled
[07:15] <graft> argh... too many Darths in here
[07:16] <graft> always two there are
[07:16] <Blue-Steel> nalioth  i have no idea what that is
[07:16] <nalioth> Blue-Steel: ah, watch your priv msgs
[07:16] <Blue-Steel> ok
[07:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Blue-Steel about repos
[07:16] <DarthShrine> graft, :D Want me to join on my server too?
[07:17] <nalioth> Blue-Steel: enable the universe and multiverse repositories, and you'll have over 17,000 programs to play with
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> goodnight everyone
[07:17] <DarthShrine> G'night FliesLikeABrick
[07:17] <pk_volt> i downloaded the ati installer
[07:18] <Blue-Steel> i remember it was a list conf somewhere with debian where we put all the mirrors
[07:18] <Blue-Steel> what is the path  to it
[07:18] <DarthShrine> Could anybody try and help with my audio prob then?
[07:18] <Blue-Steel> i cant remember
[07:18] <pk_volt> and now it's asking for an installation path
[07:18] <nalioth> Blue-Steel: it's in the link ubotu sent you
[07:19] <CoolGal22> I need to know how to get apps to minimize to the tray instead of dissapearing when I minimize them
[07:19] <pk_volt> the ati flglrx installer is asking me for an installation path
[07:19] <pk_volt> what should I type in?
[07:20] <malv> are there any downsides to lvm?
[07:21] <pk_volt> how do i find out my ubuntu version?
[07:21] <gn0me> System->About Ubuntu
[07:21] <gn0me> I think
[07:21] <pk_volt> how do i check in termianl
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> pk_volt: uname -a
[07:21] <Blue-Steel> i see.... but i was looking for a cmd line to do it
[07:22] <gn0me> Or that, with the terminal.
[07:23] <DarthShrine> In the Ubuntu 5.10 LiveCD, my "0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)" was working perfectly. I installed from the LiveCD, and now the audio is not working. What can I do to get it working again?
[07:23] <Tido> how would I go about setting up ubuntu to run as a vpn server?
[07:24] <ejofee> is there any way to use bum in order to make a certain service be automatically run on startup
[07:24] <ejofee> ?
[07:25] <Frogzoo> ejofee: yes, but you still have to create the startup script yourself...
[07:25] <graft> DarthShrine: can't you just load up the right module and run along?
[07:26] <CoolGal22> ok then, I have KDE 3.5 on a disc, all the tar files...How would I go about installing it in ubuntu?
[07:26] <DarthShrine> graft, I thought so, but nopr
[07:26] <ejofee> Frogzoo: my /etc/init.d/ is already populated with a lot of scripts waiting to be automatically run from startup (some of which i am also eager to run)
[07:27] <ejofee> s/from/at/
[07:27] <Blue-Steel> !easysource
[07:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:27] <graft> DarthShrine: what do you mean, nopr? they don't load or what?
[07:28] <Frogzoo> ejofee: then tell bum to run them, & it will symlink where needed
[07:28] <DarthLappy> graft, They load, they just don't seem to do anything :)
[07:28] <graft> DarthLappy: did you load alsa modules?
[07:28] <graft> and do you have alsa libs installed?
[07:28] <DarthLappy> graft, I shall try once again
[07:29] <graft> i hate all those alsa modules... this is why i always build them into the kernel
[07:29] <Russ_> I would echo Tido's question. I'd like to set up my Ubuntu computer as a VPN server. Where would I start?
[07:30] <graft> there's any number of VPN packages in the ubuntu repository
[07:31] <Tido> Russ_, I just found openVPN and Poptop as solutions
[07:31] <Bytewalker> will ubuntu work off the cd with my "Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN"? (from winxp ipconfig /all)
[07:31] <Tido> though, their names are all I know about them atm :p
[07:32] <Blue-Steel> what is the name of the full kde package ?
[07:32] <DarthLappy> graft, And after loading all those modules...?
[07:32] <DarthLappy> Should it magically work?
[07:32] <ejofee> Frogzoo: i know how to start them up from bum, it's just that there's no option like "also start on next boot up"
[07:32] <nalioth_zZz> Blue-Steel: kubuntu-desktop
[07:32] <graft> DarthLappy: should...
[07:32] <Russ_> Tido: I've heard of OpenVPN. Looking up some setup instructions now.
[07:33] <DarthShrine> graft, Doesn't seem to.
[07:33] <graft> Russ_, Tido: there's a buncha vpn packages in the repository...
[07:33] <graft> including openvpn
[07:33] <DarthShrine> graft, Should I compile the newest kernel maybe?
[07:33] <DarthShrine> graft, And the newest ALSA?
[07:33] <graft> DarthShrine: um... have you got all the ALSA libs?
[07:34] <graft> you don't need to compile ALSA libs, the ones in the repository should be fine...
[07:34] <lunari> w00t! I figured something out for myself!
[07:34] <jehnx> Anyone willing to help me get my usb sound adapter to work?
[07:34] <DarthShrine> graft, I *think* so. Though I dunno...I have alsa-base, alsa-oss, alsa-utils
[07:34] <jehnx> I usually hear crickets when I ask that.  :-/
[07:35] <Frogzoo> ejofee: ok, try 'sudo update-rc.d service defaults' & rerun bum
[07:36] <graft> DarthShrine: got libasound1 and all that?
[07:36] <ejofee> Frogzoo: you actually mean update-rc.d saves the current running/(not running) status of the processes?!
[07:36] <DarthShrine> graft, libasound2
[07:36] <graft> libasound2 i mean
[07:36] <graft> yeah
[07:36] <graft> um.
[07:37] <graft> what're you using to test it?
[07:38] <DarthShrine> graft, The alsamixer command
[07:38] <DarthShrine> I don't really know what I should be using...
[07:38] <noumaan> I have some questions not relevant to ubuntu but Open Source
[07:38] <Frogzoo> ejofee: no - but update-rc.d will create symlinks in rc*.d for any init.d script
[07:38] <ejofee> noumaan: it doesn't matter, go on
[07:39] <IzeyJr> is there a generic way to get most packages to build sources?
[07:39] <noumaan>  We are working on a project to digitalize Urdu Ebooks like Project Gutenberg. We are creating html pages aswell as unicode text for library. I wanted to know how do I let the search engines know that the document we are uploading is licensed under GNU ?
[07:39] <graft> DarthShrine: um... alsamixer doesn't work, eh... that's not encouraging at all
[07:39] <Frogzoo> ejofee: once the script has an rc*.d symlink, you can change the priority through bum
[07:39] <graft> what's the error say?
[07:39] <DarthShrine> graft, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Permission denied
[07:39] <Tido> I don't get it, why would you want to use IPX for a VPN?
[07:39] <graft> Permission denied?
[07:40] <graft> try it as root?
[07:40] <DarthLappy> Indeed.
[07:40] <DarthLappy> graft, That works.
[07:40] <Frogzoo> noumaan: you could pass a meta tag - there may even be a standard for doing this
[07:40] <graft> okay... got mplayer?
[07:40] <graft> play some mp3 as root with mplayer
[07:41] <Frogzoo> noumaan: or... just append a copyright footer
[07:41] <DarthShrine> graft, "sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" "bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied"
[07:41] <ejofee> noumaan: i don't think there's some special functionality of search engines to distinguish gpl from non-gpl stuff
[07:41] <graft> DarthShrine: err, did you modprobe snd_pcm_oss anyway?
[07:41] <graft> you might have to add your user to the audio group
[07:42] <Kovecses> so the dapper date moved huh?
[07:42] <DarthShrine> graft, Yes.
[07:42] <jehnx> Anyone willing to help me get my usb sound adapter to work?
[07:42] <DarthShrine> graft, Oh.
[07:42] <Frogzoo> Kovecses: yup
[07:42] <graft> and then relog so your groups will be updated
[07:42] <Kovecses> Frogzoo, ahh..... well i guess they gotta do what they gotta do
[07:42] <graft> so long as they don't end up  like Debian!
[07:43] <ejofee> noumaan: i guess simply mentioning it on the bottom of each page would be enough (something like "copylefted under gpl")
[07:43] <graft> are they pushing back enough for KDE4 to be in dapper?
[07:43] <Frogzoo> Kovecses: I just don't see any reason to upgrade atm - breezy meets all my needs
[07:43] <Kovecses> graft, the process of making .debs is long
[07:43] <Hobbsee> graft: definetly not
[07:43] <Kovecses> Frogzoo, oh i totally agree
[07:44] <CoolGal22> Anyone tell me how to install KDE 3.5 in Ubuntu from a disc?
[07:44] <graft> Frogzoo: it's not about needs, it's about WANTS
[07:44] <Frogzoo> graft: lol :D
[07:44] <Kovecses> Frogzoo, although im on gentoo atm
[07:44] <CoolGal22> I am confused by "konstruct"
[07:44] <ejofee> noumaan: however, i recommend that you use english instead of urdu, as most people in the usa have strong difficulties in understanding urdu
[07:44] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, add the repo.. and apt-get it
[07:44] <ejofee> noumaan: (that was a joke) :)
[07:45] <Frogzoo> ejofee: phew...
[07:45] <DarthShrine> graft, How do I add my user to the audio group?
[07:45] <CoolGal22> Kove, is it in the repo yet?
[07:45] <CoolGal22> I dont think it is
[07:45] <graft> DarthShrine: sudo adduser whoeverthefuck audio
[07:45] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, not in the main repo... but there are repos
[07:45] <Frogzoo> DarthShrine: sudo vi /etc/group & add your user id to audio
[07:46] <ejofee> Frogzoo: were you getting ready for another reply? :)
[07:46] <CoolGal22> Kove I am not downloading 100 MB of stuff on a 14.4 modem when I have it on a DVD already
[07:46] <DarthLappy> I hate not having used Linux for a while...I forgot everything and I feel like a noob
[07:46] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, what do you have on dvd
[07:46] <CoolGal22> KDE 3.5, all of the files
[07:47] <CoolGal22> all the tar files
[07:47] <graft> tar files?!
[07:47] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, have fun with that
[07:47] <graft> you're going to build KDE from scratch?
[07:47] <CoolGal22> It is a prepackaged DVD, I bought it
[07:47] <cafuego> Don't download tar files for Ubuntu.
[07:47] <Frogzoo> ejofee: I wasn't sure where that was headed
[07:47] <cafuego> Ubuntu is pre-built, putting some self-compiled unpatched source on top will _break_ things.
[07:47] <CoolGal22> graft, I hear it takes a couple days to compile but many people on the forums I visit seem to have done it
[07:48] <graft> yeah, maybe
[07:48] <cafuego> CoolGal22: A better bet is to order a free Dapper CD when it is released.
[07:48] <graft> people have also shot themselves in the foot
[07:48] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, yeah but in the end it wont be worth it
[07:48] <graft> but i'm not gonna do it
[07:48] <CoolGal22> When will Dapper be released?
[07:48] <FlannelKing> CoolGal22: June 1
[07:48] <Frogzoo> 1 june supposedly
[07:48] <cafuego> June, looks like
[07:48] <Russ_> haha
[07:48] <graft> CoolGal22: go visit a friend with a cable modem, download the debs and burn them to a disk
[07:48] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, if you want to compile use gentoo
[07:48] <CoolGal22> I am a newb so I have two discs, one for Ubuntu and one for Mandriva 2006
[07:49] <CoolGal22> Honestly Mandriva is slightly easier
[07:49] <Kovecses> mandriva sucks
[07:49] <FlannelKing> CoolGal22: wait for Ubuntu 6  to decide that ;)
[07:49] <jehnx> Mandriva definitely has the easiest installation, but you'll likely enjoy ubuntu more.
[07:49] <CoolGal22> It is what it is, but for me EVERYTHING worked outta the box
[07:49] <Kovecses> ubuntu, gentoo.  only ways to go... or fedora
[07:49] <cafuego> CoolGal22: You can use 'Syanptic' to generatye a package download script, which you can run on another box with decent internet access.
[07:49] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: that will happen sometimes - even for windows ;)
[07:50] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, think of it this way..... you take a couple days to compile or a day to download the ubuntu packages that install in 5 minutes
[07:50] <CoolGal22> On Ubuntu I had to change the xorg.conf file to recognixe proper resolution
[07:50] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: that's very hardware dependent
[07:50] <lunari> Is there a command to delete a directory from the shell and everything that's in the directory also?
[07:51] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, for the record....... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... would have set your reso
[07:51] <Frogzoo> lunari: rm -rf xxx           (take care you name the right directory, using '.' is bad practice)
[07:51] <Phlosten^> lunari, 'rm -r directory'
[07:51] <CoolGal22> However, Ubuntu does seem to have the balance for a newd, easy but challenging enough to learn..Nothing as hard as Slackware (what a nightmare for me) and not as newb oriented as Mandriva
[07:52] <DarthLappy> graft, Well, now that command runs, nothing comes out of my headphones or speakers though. Also, when I was in the LiveCD, I remember having to change the audio device.
[07:52] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, ever try gentoo?
[07:52] <CoolGal22> I hear a ton about gentoo but I hear you have to compile it yourself..Sounds worse than Slackware to me
[07:52] <cafuego> Kovecses: P'ah. Compared to Slack 3 gentoo is for kiddies.
[07:52] <Blue-Steel>  CoolGal22  nop
[07:52] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: the big difference, for me, is documentation, the community, and stability
[07:52] <Blue-Steel>  it compiles itself with emerge
[07:53] <Kovecses> cafuego, how so..... this coming from a ubuntu user?
[07:53] <Blue-Steel> gentoo rocks ;)
[07:53] <IzeyJr> whats mcop stand for?
[07:53] <cafuego> Kovecses: I run Ubuntu *now* on *this* amchine, but haven't always :-)
[07:53] <CoolGal22> If I can find a disc at the bookstore I will try gentoo
[07:53] <Kovecses> cafuego, slack 3?
[07:53] <cafuego> Kovecses: Started with Slackware 3.0 on a 486
[07:53] <cafuego> Kovecses: The joy of a floppy install...
[07:54] <Kovecses> cafuego, oh i see........ i never said gentoo was hard?
[07:54] <CoolGal22> Ok back to my original q....On ubuntu i am having issues getting apps to minimize to my tray without dissapearing..Any trick I need to know?
[07:54] <Kovecses> cafuego, i think gentoo is ver very easy
[07:54] <graft> CoolGal22: which apps?
[07:54] <Blue-Steel> Kovecses  thanks  to the wiki and docs :)
[07:54] <cafuego> Kovecses: Yeah, just wastes so much time, though.
[07:54] <CoolGal22> Mainly Firestarter and Gaim
[07:54] <cafuego> (and raises the power bill)
[07:54] <CoolGal22> I even configured firestarter to go to my tray but it still will not..
[07:55] <graft> Firestarter...
[07:55] <roxanne> Can anyone help me?
[07:55] <CoolGal22> so I have to run it in a separate workspace
[07:55] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: look for an appn option to minimize on close - at least for firestarter this is necessary
[07:55] <CoolGal22> On Mandriva, it behaves fine, nice little icon on the taskbar
[07:55] <graft> and for gaim i think
[07:55] <IzeyJr> when I try to setup audio in wine it crashes saying "Creating link /home/james/.kde/socket-IzeyJr.         can't create mcop directory"
[07:55] <Kovecses> cafuego, yeah it sucks waiting to compile....but i have installed everything..... ubuntu is for my lappy
[07:55] <CoolGal22> Frog, Already did..The box is checked
[07:55] <graft> actually no you can minimize gaim
[07:55] <roxanne> I just installed Ubuntu, and my computer is really slow.
[07:55] <Bytewalker> will a "Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN" WIRELESS laptop thingy work??
[07:56] <noumaan> roxanne,  try ubuntulite
[07:56] <batman> bleh can someone please help me with installing my wifi with ndiswrapper... i did it before and used the same exact files but for some reason its not working now o.O
[07:56] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: have you removed your messages applet from the toolbar?
[07:56] <Hobbsee> !tell Bytewalker about wireless
[07:56] <cafuego> Bytewalker: It will on Ubuntu Dapper (to be released in 2 1/2 months)
[07:56] <dmizer> i updated my thunderbird 1.5 with a new extention, and now its not looking in the right place for my mail settings.  my mail is still there, but it doesn't show up.
[07:56] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo, messages applet?
[07:56] <roxanne> I posted a message on a forum, but they told me to "disable nonessential services"
[07:56] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: *notification*
[07:56] <graft> err sorry, Darth
[07:56] <graft> um... change the audio device?
[07:56] <roxanne> What is ubuntulite?
[07:56] <CoolGal22> Frog, I am not sure what u mean
[07:57] <DarthShrine> graft, Um, how?
[07:57] <noumaan> roxanne,  or go to synaptic and search for ICEWM install it and log back in on logon screen use sessions and change to ICEWM
[07:57] <cafuego> roxanne: What sort or cpu/ram does your computer have?
[07:57] <Kovecses> yeah what is ubuntulite
[07:57] <graft> DarthShrine: no i mean, what the heck do you mean by 'change the audio device'?
[07:57] <roxanne> what is synaptic?
[07:57] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: try right click on menu bar -> add applet -> utilities -> notification area
[07:57] <Mabus06> what version of xchat comes with ubuntu?
[07:57] <roxanne> I know nothing, seriously I've been using this for a day.
[07:57] <Kovecses> 2.4.5
[07:57] <graft> Mabus06: what version of ubuntu?
[07:57] <Kovecses> i think
[07:57] <IzeyJr> man I'm ganna have to reinstall I am using gnome desktop why it is goin to KDE is unknown to me
[07:57] <dmizer> roxanne: it's your package manager.  it's how you add programs.
[07:58] <Mabus06> graft: breezy, 386
[07:58] <lunari> I just installed Breezy on another system of mine, had to edit the xorg.conf and such to get it to boot into x
[07:58] <lunari> and then
[07:58] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo Ur a genius, there pops Firestarter and gaim!
[07:58] <lunari> i fix it, reboot
[07:58] <roxanne> it's a 1.5 ghz with 256 kb
[07:58] <CoolGal22> on my toolbar
[07:58] <DarthShrine> graft, System->Preferences->Sound...There's an audio device box. On the LiveCD there were two options, and the one that wasn't selected by default worked.
[07:58] <Kovecses> IzeyJr, just pick gnome at login
[07:58] <lunari> log in, and it updates itself from ubuntu to edubuntu!
[07:58] <cafuego> You mean Mb, right?
[07:58] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: well I do have my good days - glad this helped
[07:58] <roxanne> yeah...
[07:58] <roxanne> sorry
[07:58] <CoolGal22> LOL
[07:58] <lunari> automatically!, is there a way to change it back?
[07:58] <Bytewalker> THANKS BTW!!
[07:58] <serph> does ubuntu generate ipv6 IPs by default?
[07:58] <CoolGal22> Other than that annoyance, everything seems to work great on ubuntu now
[07:59] <roxanne> how do I change the package manager?
[07:59] <Frogzoo> roxanne: please don't do that
[07:59] <graft> DarthShrine: err, you mean like hw:0 or something?
[07:59] <CoolGal22> Does ubuntu come with mp3 support?
[07:59] <roxanne> ok
[07:59] <CoolGal22> or must I get a decoder from the repos?
[07:59] <Frogzoo> !tell CoolGal22 about restricted
[07:59] <DarthShrine> graft, I dunno.
[07:59] <cafuego> !restrictedformats
[07:59] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:00] <graft> well what's listed now?
[08:00] <DarthShrine> graft, In there? Nothing
[08:00] <roxanne> how do I disable nonessential services? I have no printer and no network.
[08:00] <DarthShrine> In alsamixer it says Realtek 880
[08:00] <graft> ah... you still have permissions problems, methinks
[08:01] <graft> although on what i'm not sure...
[08:01] <kingspawn> roxanne, system->admin->services
[08:01] <roxanne> I have so many questions! How would I change to ubuntu Lite?
[08:01] <lunari> whats the command to copy a file?
[08:01] <kingspawn> lunari, cp
[08:01] <roxanne> thanks
[08:01] <lunari> ty
[08:01] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo, restriced?
[08:01] <lunari> and where is the xorg.conf located once again?
[08:01] <lunari> lol
[08:02] <miguel> HI, I'm new to unbunu and linux. I'm not being able to play my mp3 files on ubuntu.
[08:02] <miguel> what should i do? dwnload some package?
[08:02] <kingspawn> !restrictedformats
[08:02] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:02] <serph> miguel, look over here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:02] <dmizer> miguel: you need the w32codecs.
[08:03] <roxanne> does anyone have any suggestions which service to disable first?
[08:03] <graft> DarthShrine: do you get the same error message if you run alsamixer as user still?
[08:03] <roberto> c' qualcuno che parla l'italiano?
[08:03] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, sudo
[08:03] <ubotu> [sudo]  a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:03] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22 check ubotu's pm
[08:03] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo I did but I dont understand what he is talking about
[08:03] <DarthShrine> graft, Nope
[08:03] <CoolGal22> he gave me a link but didnt explain
[08:03] <graft> that works ok?
[08:03] <frantic> quick question or two, can anyone tell me what version of mono is in dapper drake repositories?
[08:04] <graft> and mixer volume is up?
[08:04] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: the wiki page explains how to install all proprietary drivers, codecs etc.
[08:04] <pk_volt> how do i find out what my ubuntu version is?
[08:04] <graft> by default it's usually at 0
[08:04] <jbritz22> is it possible to move files to a ntfs partition from linux?
[08:04] <Frogzoo> pk_volt: cat /etc/issue
[08:04] <frantic> not really jbritz
[08:04] <frantic> you can do it from the windows side thanks to a few programs that read ext partitions
[08:05] <Frogzoo> pk_volt: actually, cat /proc/version is preferable
[08:05] <jbritz22> Fracture, damn, that kinda sucks, I had like an 11 gb partition for music on windows for music, sucks I cant use it, I can read from it...but damn
[08:05] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo why do some distros come with mp3 support and others not?
[08:05] <frantic> if you really need to be able to write to a partition with both windows and linux, you should use a fat32 partition
[08:05] <graft> jbritz22: that's not really true, there's write support for ntfs in the latest kernels
[08:06] <graft> and i think it's even considered safe by now...
[08:06] <graft> but you might have to compile the module yourself
[08:06] <frantic> woah, since when?
[08:06] <frantic> oh hmm
[08:06] <graft> dunno, 2.6.8 or something?
[08:06] <frantic> well ok, anyone running dapper drake?
[08:06] <FlannelKing> yep.
[08:06] <cafuego> Nearly everyone on #ubuntu+1
[08:06] <jbritz22> graft, i think I have the latest kernel
[08:06] <graft> i am
[08:07] <Phlosten> frantic, try #ubuntu+1
[08:07] <frantic> can you tell me what version of mono dapper drake uses?
[08:07] <graft> jbritz22: yeah but they might not have enabled write support for ntfs in the module they built for ubuntu
[08:07] <jbritz22> graft, damn...
[08:07] <arrinmurr> isn't it only possible to modify existing files on a ntfs partition, not create new ones?
[08:07] <jbritz22> graft, can you give me a chmod command to at least try?
[08:08] <graft> chmod command?
[08:08] <jbritz22> well, something to change the permissions
[08:08] <jbritz22> doesnt chmod do that?
[08:09] <graft> yeah...
[08:09] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you need to modify /etc/fstab
[08:09] <graft> what do you want to chmod?
[08:09] <graft> arrinmurr: yeah you can't make new files...
[08:09] <Phlosten> or do a manually mount if it isnt already mounted
[08:09] <roccociro_> #hackernet
[08:09] <jbritz22> graft, /media/hda5
[08:09] <Phlosten> moron
[08:10] <roccociro_> #hacker
[08:10] <FlannelKing> #cheese
[08:10] <Phlosten> #moron
[08:10] <graft> hmm... #moron actually sounds like a fun channel
[08:10] <TPS> hello
[08:10] <graft> !ask
[08:11] <TPS> does anyone in here have kde ubuntu?
[08:11] <graft> kubuntu
[08:11] <graft> i do
[08:11] <Phlosten> the world is full of too many morons, and that aint fun
[08:11] <gimmulf> When is next ubuntu version released?
[08:11] <graft> some of them are even president
[08:11] <TPS> i like gnome
[08:11] <graft> june, gimmulf
[08:11] <gimmulf> oki :)
[08:11] <Phlosten> graft, oddly enough, yes
[08:11] <Madpilot> gimmulf, June 1st, I think
[08:11] <frantic> juuuunne??? i was thinking it'd be aprilish
[08:11] <graft> it was supposed to be...
[08:11] <Phlosten> pushed back 6 weeks
[08:11] <TPS> i just installed ubuntu today
[08:12] <jbritz22> graft, /media/hda5 is what I wanna chmod, whats the command to make it writeable by anyone
[08:12] <TPS> its sweet
[08:12] <frantic> fair enough
[08:12] <Phlosten> ish
[08:12] <TPS> i like slackware better though
[08:12] <Phlosten> jbritz22, forget the chmod reference
[08:12] <gimmulf> Is there any great framework to use for webbdevelopers in linux btw? im currently just using VIM but it takes time, would be great with some kind of developing platform
[08:12] <Frogzoo> jbritz22: the perms of the device don't matter but the perms on the mounted file system
[08:12] <gimmulf> framework maybe wasnt the best word
[08:13] <frantic> ok please, how can i find out what packages are currently in dapper drake repositories
[08:13] <Phlosten> jbritz22, do you want to mount that device read/write everytime you boot ubuntu?
[08:13] <ejofee> how do i specify it in bum that i want a certain service to be run at the next startup?
[08:13] <acetech> gimmulf: checkout screem and bluefish
[08:13] <jbritz22> phlosten, if you mean, be able to read/write to it everytime, yes
[08:13] <gimmulf> oki
[08:13] <Phlosten> frantic, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:13] <frantic> thanks
[08:13] <KakiPukul> hi ubuntu'ers
[08:14] <zErO-bReAk> ai alguien de chile?
[08:14] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you need to open the /etc/fstab file in a terminal text editor and modify it
[08:14] <Frogzoo> !es
[08:14] <Pietras1988> http://s2.bitefight.pl/c.php?uid=35036
[08:14] <ejofee> what is the meaning of k20 and s20?
[08:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:14] <Phlosten> jbritz22, with 'sudo'
[08:14] <Phlosten> jbritz22, do you know how to do that?
[08:14] <frantic> oh excellent, mono 1.1.13
[08:14] <graft> gimmulf: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=ebe7b79cc4b1c5da24b809e79a9a8957&t=409044
[08:14] <jbritz22> Phlosten, yup, i got it in gedit now
[08:14] <KakiPukul> ejofee: L those are "kill" and "start" script with their order
[08:14] <jbritz22> Phlosten, what do I change
[08:15] <Phlosten> jbritz22, have you opened it as a SU?
[08:15] <jbritz22> yes
[08:15] <jbritz22> phlosten, http://pastebin.com/615703
[08:16] <ejofee> KakiPukul: wow, cool... but why do half of my services have priority 20? what does this mean? "do not start"?
[08:16] <Phlosten> jbritz22, follow the format of the other entries, append an extra line at the bottom
[08:17] <DarthLappy> graft, Well, now that command runs, nothing comes out of my headphones or speakers though. Also, when I was in the LiveCD, I remember having to change the audio device.
[08:17] <DarthLappy> Oops
[08:17] <DarthLappy> Success! Is what I meant to say.
[08:17] <KakiPukul> ejofee: , do you know how init start services?
[08:18] <jbritz22> http://pastebin.com/615704 does that look right?
[08:18] <Phlosten> *loooks*
[08:18] <graft> DarthLappy: what was your issue?
[08:18] <DarthLappy> graft, I needed to log out I think. Hehe
[08:18] <graft> ah
[08:18] <graft> yeah that's annoying about groups
[08:19] <graft> one of the few basic flaws in the Lunix operating system
[08:19] <DarthLappy> Oh well, guess I should auto modprobe those modules now?
[08:19] <dj-fu> ejofee, priority 20 means 'only run when nothing else is running'
[08:19] <dj-fu> iirc.
[08:19] <graft> yeh
[08:19] <ejofee> KakiPukul: i don't know... i guess it's something like i see in msconfig.exe startup tab, right?
[08:19] <Phlosten> jbritz22, where'd you get all the option tags from?
[08:19] <zF> what can I use in Ubuntu to extract rars?
[08:19] <KakiPukul> nay,, ejofee
[08:19] <dj-fu> zF, rar
[08:19] <dj-fu> (/clap)
[08:20] <jbritz22> phlosten, just took it from the other one
[08:20] <ejofee> dj-fu: i thought priority 20 simply meant "this app is the 20th to be started"
[08:20] <miguel> thank u guys. mp3 works now.
[08:20] <KakiPukul> init will start services according to the file sys default file tree, in order A-Z 1-20
[08:20] <zF> dj-fu, thanks a lot - very helpful
[08:20] <KakiPukul> 1-99 :)
[08:20] <Phlosten> jbritz22, well the 'ro' will mount it read-only
[08:20] <zF> what can I use in Ubuntu to extract rars?
[08:20] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you dont want that
[08:20] <dj-fu> zF, 'unrar'
[08:20] <dj-fu> zF, `apt-cache show unrar`
[08:21] <graft> jbritz22: that last line doesn't belong there, eh
[08:21] <zF> dj-fu, I have unrar-free
[08:21] <zF> but both unrar and rar are not coming up as commands in bash.
[08:21] <dj-fu> It's on the multiverse.
[08:21] <KakiPukul> in order to get "KXX" script will be executed first, where XX start from -00 till 99, ejofee, listening? nvm
[08:21] <zF> Yes, I have the package.
[08:21] <ejofee> what priority should i choose in order for a service to *actually* run?
[08:21] <ejofee> KakiPukul: i am following, yes
[08:22] <zF> unrar-free is already the newest version.
[08:22] <zF> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 26 not upgraded.
[08:22] <Phlosten> jbritz22, just checking something, bear with me
[08:22] <dj-fu> Setting up unrar (3.5.4-0.1) ...
[08:22] <dj-fu> What's unrar-free?
[08:23] <jbritz22> graft, ok
[08:23] <lunari> Is there a way to check to see which video card driver is actually being used?
[08:23] <KakiPukul> and next after all the "KXX" scripts are done... init continues to "SXX" where XX is still 00 till 99, scripts with lower number is executed first, because that's how linux read the fs...
[08:23] <KakiPukul> so, to setup a script at lower priority, XX must be very high, 99 for example
[08:24] <ejofee> KakiPukul: what is the purpuse of their being so confusing for the beginner?
[08:24] <Phlosten> jbritz22, change it to '/dev/hda5  /mnt/hda5  ntfs  defaults  0 0'
[08:25] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you then need to create the /mnt/hda5 directory
[08:25] <KakiPukul> ejofee: , the basic idea that kill script first, and then start script later
[08:25] <Phlosten> jbritz22, then prob best to reboot
[08:25] <KakiPukul> K comes before S in English alphabet right?
[08:25] <jbritz22> phlosten, is that right, http://pastebin.com/615710 then jkust mkdir /mnt/hda5
[08:25] <eddie> hi everyone, I'm having problems running "apt-get install" when I install packeges
[08:25] <Phlosten> jbritz22, yer
[08:26] <Phlosten> jbritz22, to save rebooting you could unmount it (if you have it mounted now) and then run 'mount -a'
[08:26] <jbritz22> phlosten, ok, how do I unmount
[08:27] <Phlosten> jbritz22, what did mount it with?
[08:27] <jbritz22> jbritz22, just a simple script
[08:27] <jbritz22> jbritz22, someone in here told me about it
[08:27] <Phlosten> jbritz22, your in gnome?
[08:28] <jbritz22> Phlosten, fluxbox
[08:28] <Pistahh> hi
[08:28] <DrBanzai> Hi
[08:29] <lunari> In my Xorg.0.log it says: LoadModule: "fglrx" then a few lines down.. Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc." compiled for 6.8.0, module version = 8.23.7 Module class: X.org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
[08:29] <lunari> Does that mean that it IS using the fglrx driver? so I have hardware acceleration?
[08:29] <graft> lunari: depends if you have the right libs installed
[08:29] <Pistahh> I have a fresh install of flight4+upgrade from the net. I get ip address by dhcp. When I boot, I get the ip address but /etc/resolv.conf is not updated by the nameserver. If I manually do an ifdown+ifup eth0, then it is updated. Is this a known problem?
[08:30] <graft> the real test is to run fgl_glxgears in X
[08:30] <Phlosten> jbritz22, to be honest i havent ever unmounted anything, you could just reboot?
[08:30] <lunari> because I am only getting around 30fps on the screensaver with the ants, and under 400 in glxgears
[08:30] <jbritz22> one sec
[08:30] <jbritz22> anyone in here know how to unmount from terminal?
[08:30] <lunari> which is what I got using the regular ati driver that comes with ubuntu
[08:31] <lunari> brb
[08:31] <dj-fu> jbritz22, 'unmount /path/to/mount'
[08:31] <DrBanzai> lunari, also which kernel are you using?
[08:31] <Phlosten> jbritz22, just noticed it may be 'umount'
[08:32] <DrBanzai> Also, 'umount /dev/whatever' works too, if you know the /dev name
[08:32] <graft> jbritz22: umount <directory>
[08:32] <jbritz22> ok
[08:32] <jbritz22> thanks
[08:32] <dragoon> hey guys, whats the kernel source package called in ubuntu ?
[08:32] <Phlosten> knew it was simple, just couldnt think
[08:32] <dragoon> for the latest 2.6 kernel in 5.10
[08:32] <graft> linux-source-2.6.whatever
[08:32] <dj-fu> kernel header or kernel source?
[08:32] <dragoon> source
[08:33] <Phlosten> brb
[08:33] <dj-fu> apt-cache search `uname -r`|grep source
[08:33] <dragoon> thanks guys
[08:33] <dj-fu> may just be linux-kernel-source
[08:33] <dj-fu> is on Dapper anyway
[08:34] <jbritz22> ok im gonna try it now
[08:34] <jbritz22> got it unmounted and mounted succesfullymethinks
[08:34] <dragoon> dj-fu: can i upgrade to dapper easily ?
[08:34] <dragoon> without reinstalling
[08:34] <dj-fu> Dunno about easily
[08:34] <DrBanzai> Anybody had any luck getting a BroockTree 878 working under Ubuntu?
[08:34] <dj-fu> will be a lot of packages
[08:34] <dragoon> dj-fu: that doesnt bother me
[08:35] <dj-fu> then sure
[08:35] <dragoon> would i just need to change the entrys in my apt config ?
[08:35] <dj-fu> replace all the 'breezy' with 'dapper' in your /var/apt/sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:35] <dragoon> thanks
[08:35] <graft> apt-get update first, obviously
[08:35] <dragoon> yeah
[08:35] <DrBanzai> Will upgrading like that screw up the things that my "extras" CD did?
[08:35] <graft> anyone here run dovecot?
[08:36] <dragoon> this is one of those times i want faster internet then 512k adsl
[08:36] <graft> DrBanzai: it'll just upgrade... if there's newer packages, they'll be installed... if there aren't, it'll stay in place
[08:36] <DrBanzai> Sweet...
[08:36] <DrBanzai> Thanks graft
[08:36] <jbritz22> Phlosten, ok, I dont think I can access it at allnow
[08:37] <dragoon> dj-fu: is dapper overly stable ?
[08:37] <graft> dapper is plenty stable
[08:37] <dj-fu> dragoon, it's stable enough for me to use.. but I like unstable things. I just like runing the latest packages
[08:37] <dj-fu> but in most cases, yes, It's stable.
[08:37] <dj-fu> in the sense of a final release stable, no, it's not.
[08:37] <Phlosten> jbritz22, did you 'mount -a'?
[08:37] <jbritz22> Phlosten, yes
[08:37] <dragoon> dj-fu: seeing i run ~x86 gentoo on my other boxes :)
[08:38] <graft> so... what's after dapper, anyway?
[08:38] <DrBanzai> Is it safe to assume that dapper is the latest release?
[08:38] <Phlosten> jbritz22, no errors?
[08:38] <graft> dapper is the latest not-yet-release
[08:38] <farous> anyone know of a good program to capture what is happening on the screen and capture sound from my mike. I am trying to make a wmv presentation and need something to capture the screen in video mode
[08:38] <jbritz22> Phlosten, none, but say in, amaroK i get an error, and it says cannat access hda5
[08:38] <zF> Question
[08:38] <Pistahh> farous: try google linux+create+screencast
[08:39] <zF> How can I transfer files from my Linux partition to my windows partition?
[08:39] <farous> thanx Pistahh
[08:39] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you created the directory ok? you can see if in a file browser?
[08:39] <zF> Google has nothing for me :(
[08:39] <dj-fu> dragoon, Gentoo looked alright, I don't have the time to wait around for my base system to compile though
[08:39] <Madpilot> DrBanzai, Dapper hasn't been fully released yet - there are betas available to test, if you're brave
[08:39] <dj-fu> Brave people rock
[08:39] <dragoon> welll in..... 3.5 hours ill be running dapper on here (laptop)
[08:39] <jbritz22> Phlosten, I dotn wanna load nautilus up cause it messes with my flux, any alternativces
[08:39] <dj-fu> Test it out, show it off - it's beautiful.
[08:39] <dragoon> dj-fu: thats when you use stage3
[08:39] <DrBanzai> Ahh, ok, thanks Madpilot
[08:39] <dragoon> i end up recompiling the base system anyway
[08:40] <dragoon> i use distcc, so i have about 5 pcs that are 2ghz + compiling simultaneously
[08:40] <cuen> so if you have older hardware, do you turn to gentoo or linux os that work well with old hardware?
[08:41] <zF> How can I transfer files from my Linux partition to my windows partition?
[08:41] <Daskies> What is the folder fonts are stored in?
[08:41] <frantic> compiling your own packages is overrated
[08:41] <DrBanzai> zF mount your windows partition under Linux, and just copy the files over
[08:42] <Seveas> Daskies, ~/.fonts and /usr/share/fonts
[08:42] <jbritz22> Phlosten, any ideas?
[08:42] <frantic> it's highly debatable whether your executables are going to be any faster, and the time you spend compiling is certainly going to outweigh it
[08:42] <zF> DrBanzaiy: You cannot copy from Linux to windows in Linux.
[08:42] <Daskies> Seveas, Thanks
[08:42] <dragoon> yes you can
[08:42] <dragoon> its called fat32
[08:42] <dragoon> ;)
[08:42] <DrBanzai> Says you, I've done it...
[08:42] <dragoon> or captive-ntfs
[08:42] <zF> Seveas: what's the program (or web app) used to copy files from Linux --> Windows?
[08:42] <farous> jbritz22: just use natalius --no-desktop. This will preserve your desktop and will not mess anything
[08:42] <dragoon> that uses the windwos ntfs.sys to read/write ntfs
[08:42] <farous> jbritz22: how does natalius mess your flux ? it is working flawlessly here
[08:42] <jbritz22> farous, sweet
[08:42] <KonphuzeD> hey there, unfortunately ive come across my first failed ubuntu install
[08:43] <jbritz22> farous, last time the wallpaper covered my menu bar and I couldnt access anything
[08:43] <zF> DrBanzai: If you're correct, excuse me for being ignorant.
[08:43] <DrBanzai> Well zF, first is your windows partition Fat32 or NTFS?
[08:43] <zF> NTFS.
[08:43] <farous> jbritz22: to get the fonts. run gnome-settings-daemon first put it in your startup
[08:43] <DrBanzai> Ok, and which Linux do you use?
[08:43] <alimh> I'm using Ubuntu on my laptop. Where can I change parameters of powernowd when the comptuer starts?
[08:43] <farous> jbritz22: the no desktop option will do the trick. otherwise check roxfiler
[08:44] <jbritz22> Phlosten, i can acceess hda5 with nautilus
[08:44] <jbritz22> Phlosten, dunno why amaroK is being whiny
[08:45] <LesleyW> KonphuzeD, what went wrong?
[08:45] <DrBanzai> zF?  Which Linux do you use?  I assume Ubuntu, but which version?
[08:45] <zF> DrBanzai Ubuntu Dapper Drake
[08:45] <zF> I know there's a program in Windows that allows you to copy
[08:45] <zF> Even a web app
[08:45] <KonphuzeD> 80 gig sata drive that was preformatted as 40GB dedicated to a Fresh WinXP install (no hassles or problems there yet) leaving the rest to be dedicatd to ubuntu install. This went fine until the buntu install was formatting the remainder of the drive. it seemed to hang and fail formatting / and or /swap each time
[08:45] <DrBanzai> zF, ok, the only way I know to do it, is from the command prompt...
[08:45] <farous> ok than you all
[08:45] <farous> .exit
[08:45] <zF> Seveas: Do youk now the program that allows you to copy from your Linux partition in Windows?
[08:46] <jbritz22> Phlosten, in amarok I get an error, could not enter folder /mnt/root, do I have to run amarok as root?
[08:46] <dragoon> zF: what filesystem ?
[08:46] <frantic> there's a kernel mod for windows that allows you to read ext partitions like normal disks
[08:46] <zF> dragoon: NTFS
[08:46] <KonphuzeD> i used the rescue cd as indicated and got the 2 partitions formatted succesffully and did another install attempt
[08:46] <frantic> one sec, i have it on my windows partition, i'll look
[08:46] <KakiPukul> KonphuzeD:  formatted using, the ubuntu's installer formatter or gparted?
[08:46] <dragoon> zF: your linux partition
[08:46] <zF> dragoon: ext 3
[08:46] <frantic> there's explore2fs which is a program
[08:46] <dragoon> cant write to it in windows
[08:46] <dragoon> can read, just not write
[08:46] <KonphuzeD> first install formatter then rescue disk qtparted isnt it?
[08:46] <frantic> there's also Ext2IFS
[08:47] <dragoon> cant write to ext3
[08:47] <zF> frantic: that's the one, thanks
[08:47] <HymnToLife> dragoon> wrong
[08:47] <HymnToLife> http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/
[08:47] <zF> !explore2fs
[08:47] <dragoon> i know what it is
[08:47] <dragoon> and when ive used it
[08:47] <dragoon> it hasnt written
[08:47] <KonphuzeD> then the install by passed the format part and started unpacking files which got to unpacking mii to 42% and then appeared to freeze again
[08:47] <HymnToLife> dragoon> worked like a charm for me
[08:48] <dragoon> mok
[08:48] <KakiPukul> KonphuzeD: did you install fine with other OSes installers?
[08:48] <jbritz22> whats the command to run a program as root?
[08:48] <kingspawn> jbritz22, sudo
[08:48] <ph1qt10n> how can i remove the mounted icon on the desktop?
[08:48] <jbritz22> ok
[08:48] <HymnToLife> or gksudo if it's a grphical appp
[08:49] <jbritz22> thanks kingspawn
[08:49] <damian_> whats this
[08:49] <damian_> checking for g++... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for c++... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for gpp... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for aCC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for CC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for cxx... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for cc++... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for cl... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for FCC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for KCC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for RCC... no
[08:49] <dragoon> damian_: stop!
[08:49] <HymnToLife> !tell damian_ about pastebin
[08:49] <alimh> when in the laptop boot process does powernod get called? how do i modify the parameters?
[08:49] <frantic> haha looks like u need compilerz
[08:49] <damian_> checking for xlC_r... no
[08:49] <kingspawn> damian_, sudo apt-get install build-essential - and dont paste here
[08:49] <damian_> checking for xlC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[08:49] <damian_> See `config.log' for more details.
[08:49] <dragoon> damian_: stop ffs
[08:49] <damian_> damian@thiscomputer:~/lmms$
[08:49] <damian_> oops didnt mean to paste so much
[08:49] <KakiPukul> yo, pastebin please
[08:49] <Seveas> !tell damian_ about compiling
[08:49] <Seveas> !tell damian_ about pastebin
[08:49] <Seveas> !tell damian_ about rules
[08:49] <KakiPukul> damian_: , btw please isntall "build-essential" first
[08:49] <KonphuzeD> i believe mii is related to the nforce 430/410 chipset - eth controller on the board as the bios enables setting the onboard gig ethernet to mii mode  aswell the installers network autoconfig failed even though the router hands out dhcp
[08:50] <ph1qt10n> how can i remove the mounted icon on the desktop?
[08:50] <HymnToLife> ph1qt10n> right click > Unmount
[08:50] <KonphuzeD> XP installed with out a hitch
[08:50] <KakiPukul> "sudo apt-get install build-essential" >> damian_, or install it using GUI tools like "synaptic" or "aptitude"
[08:51] <number5> how can i configure right video card driver for a DELL desktop
[08:51] <KonphuzeD> with xp i then installed the motherboard cd drivers, avg, spybotS&D, blackvipered the services. all with out a hitch
[08:51] <ph1qt10n> HymnToLife: the question was to remove the icon, not to unmount the volume
[08:51] <KonphuzeD> oh mozilla of course and uninstalled outlook and msn
[08:51] <HymnToLife> ph1qt10n> well, unmounting it kind of works =)
[08:52] <HymnToLife> besides that I don't know...
[08:52] <damian_> tyanks
[08:52] <damian_> whats this mean now
[08:52] <damian_> checking QTDIR... configure: error: *** QTDIR must be defined, or --with-qtdir option given
[08:52] <ph1qt10n> how can i remove the mounted icon on the desktop?
[08:52] <damian_> ive always wondered that too
[08:53] <damian_> i use computer://
[08:53] <KonphuzeD> does any one know for sure what this mii pacakge is for
[08:53] <KakiPukul> libqt<version>-dev, damian_
[08:53] <KakiPukul> btw wth are you trying to compile, damian_?
[08:53] <damian_> KakiPukul: do i have to install that
[08:54] <damian_> yes imm just missing some packages
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> I am trying to build a program, and it is saying that evolution-data-server is not installed, but apt-get reports it as installed. Where is the prefix in ubuntu so I can pass the correct argument to configure?
[08:54] <KonphuzeD> im a tad concerned this install failure could be realated to the newness of the board and chipset from nvidia
[08:54] <damian_> oh what
[08:54] <damian_> LMMS
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> KonphuzeD: mii-tools ?
[08:55] <KonphuzeD> thus im curious if a dapper install might be required to make this work. Any input on that idea please
[08:55] <LesleyW> number5, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[08:55] <firebird619> ph1qt10n: check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75710.html        It explains there how to remove the icons for Ubuntu 5.10
[08:55] <number5> LesleyW, thanks
[08:56] <KonphuzeD> fyrestrtr, im not familiar with mii or mii-tools  .   do you know what mii stands for?
[08:56] <ph1qt10n> firebird619: thanks bro
[08:56] <LesleyW> number5, hope it helps, if not, use the service tag and look up the hardware details on Dell's website
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> no, but mii-tools is for configuring ethernet cards.
[08:56] <firebird619> np
[08:56] <KonphuzeD> hmmmm
[08:57] <alimh> from which file is powernowd called on boot?
[08:57] <KonphuzeD> well eth ports are suppose to be simple but realtech based nvidia GB eth ports could easily be another story
[09:00] <jbritz22> whats the best terminal app to run in fluxbox
[09:00] <kingspawn> alimh, i suggest you grep the files in /etc for powernowd
[09:00] <frantic> i've always liked Eterm
[09:00] <KonphuzeD> wow cool im gonna try this easyubuntu on my box here
[09:01] <jbritz22> frantic sweet theanks
[09:01] <jbritz22> frantic sweet thanks*
[09:01] <alimh> kingspawn: i did "more * | grep powernowd" in the /etc directory and did not find anything
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> alimh: grep -R powernowd /etc
[09:03] <alimh> fyrestrtr: oh... thanks. -R = recursive so it goes through all the subdirectories, correct?
[09:03] <KakiPukul> correcto
[09:05] <KonphuzeD> well away it goes
[09:06] <lunari> It's such a cool feeling to know you don't NEED windows for anything
[09:06] <lunari> I was just able to play WoW emulating it with wine!
[09:06] <dj-fu> Feh.
[09:06] <dj-fu> I can't get it working properly on Dapper.
[09:07] <pabrero> albelda
[09:07] <dj-fu> Doesn't perform well, at all.
[09:07] <Frogzoo> KonphuzeD: fyrestrtr any idea how to set my eth0 to 10baseT-FD as default? no autoneg?
[09:07] <lunari> Sure it doesn't run decent even.. but the fact that I can even run it in linux
[09:07] <lunari> 800x600 at about 15fps lol
[09:08] <KonphuzeD> yeah so whats the best project for running microsoft environment based games on ubuntu??
[09:08] <lunari> I don't know
[09:08] <vars> KonphuzeD, caldega
[09:08] <Frogzoo> KonphuzeD: wine usually
[09:08] <lunari> is caldega pretty good?
[09:08] <KonphuzeD> Frogzoo, System -> Admin -> Networking
[09:08] <vars> it sounds good
[09:08] <dj-fu> Cedega, not caldega
[09:08] <DrBanzai> I tried to use caldega to ply Ultima Online, and it didn't work.
[09:09] <dj-fu> never heard of caldega
[09:09] <number5> what does Cedega do? emulate a DirectX?
[09:09] <dj-fu> yes, number5 - reverse engineered DX9.
[09:09] <alimh> exit
[09:09] <mzinz> I'm looking a BMPx screenshots (I just installed it), and most of them have transparent playlists.. anyone know how to do that?
[09:09] <dj-fu> transset, maybe :P
[09:09] <lunari> wow
[09:09] <dj-fu> enable composite in X
[09:09] <lunari> they have a 14 day demo of cedega
[09:09] <lunari> I might have to check it out
[09:10] <ReWT_AxS> i need some serious help
[09:10] <jbritz22> what command is it to show me what applications are running, and whats the command to kill a certain application
[09:10] <ReWT_AxS> The only thing running fine is my failsafe session
[09:10] <KonphuzeD> ah, raw cacao beans makes it all better
[09:10] <dj-fu> ReWT_AxS, surely you should be able to haxor it.
[09:10] <ReWT_AxS> When I boot into my default session, I get an error GDM_Failsafe.GNOME.desktop is not installed?
[09:10] <dj-fu> with a name like that, one could only imagine your elite hacking skill
[09:10] <ReWT_AxS> I have no panels
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> nor do I have buttons on my windows
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[09:11] <DrBanzai> jbritz22 at the command prompt it's top to show the running processes and K from in there to kill one off
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> Any ideas?
[09:12] <KonphuzeD> jbritz22,   simply    ps    for all software running,  ps auxw|grep $partialname    will list just a few you are looking for and provide the PID needed to kill it
[09:13] <KonphuzeD> jbritz22, then     kill -9 $PID    will abruptly drop the process
[09:13] <pabrero> ola
[09:13] <dj-fu> !es
[09:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:14] <ilba7r> !recording
[09:14] <ubotu> ilba7r: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:14] <jbritz22> KonphuzeD, thanks :D
[09:14] <KonphuzeD> E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1   ...   is there some way i can correct this or is it useless cause of being just microsoft fonts
[09:14] <ReWT_AxS> well, anyone have any help for meh?
[09:14] <ilba7r> anyone know what i should enable to enable sound recording. Mic is working, capturing is on but can not seem to record with gnome-sound-recorder
[09:14] <Hobbsee> KonphuzeD: pastebin the entire error?
[09:15] <Hobbsee> KonphuzeD: and do you have cabextract installed?
[09:15] <KonphuzeD> that is the entire error
[09:15] <ilba7r> KonphuzeD, did you have net problems
[09:15] <KonphuzeD> maybe there is more in a log file somewhere
[09:15] <KonphuzeD> i may have had net problems but I believe it was all predownloaded
[09:16] <KonphuzeD> i ran the easyubuntu scripts but may be just the script was downloaded before running.
[09:16] <KonphuzeD> everything after the mttsfonts installed successfully
[09:16] <dragoon> easyubuntu ?
[09:17] <KonphuzeD> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[09:18] <KonphuzeD> ok i now have a window open for congiuring xserver-xorg for my ati card so if sometin goes wrong i'll be back after a reboot
[09:18] <ilba7r> anyone can help with sound recording i think it is just an option i need to enable
[09:18] <dragoon> crazy
[09:20] <bean> hi i need some help
[09:20] <mzinz> I just got winrar and unarchived it.  Is there a visual UI in the linux version? Or no?  When I execute rar it just gives me a list of possible parameters
[09:20] <bean> how can i extract 7-zip in ubuntu?
[09:20] <Frogzoo> mzinz: nautilus can handle rar
[09:21] <bean> it can't seem to handle 7-zip though
[09:21] <dragoon> mzinz: rar e extract
[09:21] <dragoon> er extracts
[09:21] <KonphuzeD> uh tricky question; enter amount of memory to be used by your video card.    - the card has memory on it already. is this querry looking for the amount of ram on the video card or the amount of mobo RAM to use as video ram??
[09:21] <mzinz> Frogzoo, meaning I didn't need to DL it?
[09:21] <dj-fu> KonphuzeD, the amoun of ram on the card
[09:21] <ilba7r> recording level meter is showing ok i can hear the sound but can not record why?
[09:21] <DrBanzai> The amount it already has
[09:21] <KakiPukul> KonphuzeD: , just leave it... it is no necessary
[09:21] <KonphuzeD> bean, you will find 7-zip with http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[09:22] <Frogzoo> mzinz: sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:22] <joachim-n> is OOo really so rubbish that I can't drag a file onto the window to open is???
[09:23] <Frogzoo> joachim-n: try the 2.0.2 test repo
[09:23] <Frogzoo> !tell joachim-n about ooo2
[09:23] <ilba7r> ooo2 is rubish it nearly broke the system here
[09:23] <mzinz> Frogzoo, thx
[09:24] <KonphuzeD> use kernel frame buffer device or no ?? is the one that could kill my xserver setup ??
[09:24] <KakiPukul> joachim-n: , there is no dnd in oo
[09:24] <KakiPukul> you rub the rubbish now
[09:25] <mzinz> What is Python?
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> a programming language
[09:25] <KakiPukul> it's a snake? mzinz :) nay interpreted programming language
[09:25] <mzinz> KakiPukul, oh, duh.
[09:26] <mzinz> XMMS is required if I want the mplayer plugin for mozilla? Do I have any alternatives?
[09:26] <KakiPukul> yes, gxine plugin... or totem plugins
[09:27] <DrBanzai> So...how come I don't get any audio when I use amarok?  Xmms works fine...
[09:27] <KonphuzeD> oh shit I just hit cancel
[09:27] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: OSS handles only one input at a time - so close xmms & try amarok
[09:28] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Okay, I've tried that already...
[09:28] <KakiPukul> you can configure amarok to use Alsa instead
[09:29] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: from amarok -> settings -> confgr amarok -> engine - check settings
[09:30] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, My choices are aRts or no engine
[09:31] <Blue-Steel> where is the grub.conf on ubuntu ? i m asking this because i will be installing windows in on a second partition and unless ubuntu/grub detects it i will have to edit the conf .
[09:31] <KonphuzeD> oh phew I redid easyubuntu but just the ati drivers and thus rexoncigure x-org and it all appears to happily be done now
[09:31] <KonphuzeD> a logout then in is the only way to be sure right
[09:31] <KakiPukul> Blue-Steel: , its "menu.lst" not "grub.conf"
[09:32] <KakiPukul> "/boot/grub/menu.lst", Blue-Steel
[09:32] <Blue-Steel> ah thank  you
[09:37] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, still here?
[09:37] <stoned> I dunno if I can wait another few weeks.  I want to isntall dapper right now.  I am on debian sid right, and I need a netinstall thingy for dapper
[09:38] <stoned> !dapper
[09:38] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software. Release date is June 1 - http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq. /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[09:38] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: mebbe try 'system -> prefs -> multimedia selector - sound output = oss
[09:39] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Hmmm...it was set to EDS...
[09:39] <Frogzoo> think oss should fix you up
[09:40] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Hmmm, I switched it to OSS, and hit the test button, and I get an error that says: Failed to construct pipeline for OSS
[09:40] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: you are running oss? not esd?
[09:40] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, To be honest, I'm not sure
[09:40] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: try alsa
[09:41] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: default is oss - still try also
[09:41] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: default is oss - still try alsa
[09:41] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Ok, the ALSA test works at least, which aRts didn't
[09:41] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: & amarok?
[09:41] <ReWT_AxS> okay i created a new user......and the error only seems to be on my main account?
[09:41] <DBO> frogzoo, whichis better, OSS or ALSA (both work for me)
[09:41] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, So now under amarok, do I set it to no engine, or aRts?
[09:42] <Frogzoo> DBO: esd is best - allows multiple, simultaneous sources
[09:42] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: try both?
[09:42] <ReWT_AxS> can anyne help me restore my account back to a previous state?
[09:42] <ReWT_AxS> maybe then the error will go away
[09:42] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, That would be nice...now when I have XMMS open, I don't get my gAIM sounds
[09:42] <damian_> awhats the thing i enable to get shadows and shuff like that
[09:43] <Frogzoo> !esd
[09:43] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Ok, if I set amarok to no engine, it says can't playback, no engine...so I'll try aRts
[09:44] <Frogzoo> what's the point in having a bot if they turn it off?
[09:44] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Hmmm, set to aRts, when I hit play nothing happens.  It dosen't even look like it's playing, in the player window
[09:44] <stoned> im on sid, how can i install ubutu dapper
[09:44] <Madpilot> !+botsnack
[09:44] <ubotu> :)
[09:44] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, it's not turned off :P
[09:44] <Frogzoo> !botsnack
[09:45] <ubotu> thanks frogzoo :)
[09:45] <Mabus06> What do I do when somebody tries to hack me? my system log is FULL of failed logins from the same user
[09:45] <Frogzoo> o_O
[09:45] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, ubotu probably sent you a pm w/ the esd info, it's a long factoid
[09:45] <DrBanzai> !esd
[09:45] <jbritz22> hey anyone here familiar with "fluxmenu"?
[09:45] <Frogzoo> Mabus06: please install a firewall so they can't get access to a remote logon
[09:45] <fek_> moin
[09:46] <Mabus06> Frogzoo: but do I report them or something, somewhere? The ip they tried at me from has an ssh server on right now
[09:47] <Frogzoo> Mabus06: your choice
[09:47] <dragoon> 1 hour 40 mins until im running dapper
[09:47] <jbritz22> anyone know how to edit fluxmenu's meny to run something from root
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> the error is even in the recovery mode for this main account
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> !ndiswrapper
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> !tell ReWT_AxS about ndiswrapper
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> arg
[09:47] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> anyone out there?
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> how do I reinstall the gnome display manager?
[09:48] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: apt-get intall --reinstall gdm, or do it in synaptic. the real question is "why"
[09:48] <Madpilot> apt-get install, even - spelling counts on the command line :P
[09:49] <Frogzoo> o i c Madpilot, thx
[09:49] <topyli> Madpilot: "login failed. only perfect spellers may enter this system"
[09:49] <Madpilot> something like that :P
[09:50] <ReWT_AxS> topy, i did something to my ubuntu....now when i run as the user i created on install, i get the error, "GDM_Failsafe.GNOME.desktop is not installed" When I boot into my ubuntu, I have no panels, nor do I have buttons on any of my windows? the only thing that boots up on startx is nautilus
[09:50] <topyli> Madpilot: that was one of the entries in the "error message haiku" contest by salon magazine
[09:50] <ReWT_AxS> u think if i reinstall gdm it will fix it?
[09:50] <ReWT_AxS> Every other user works
[09:51] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: did you check 'output plugin' = oss?
[09:51] <schmirgo> hi, if i use dapper flight 5 can i use apt-get to update the distro lateron to the final release of dapper or do i have to reinstall?
[09:51] <Frogzoo> schmirgo: update should work - fingers x'd
[09:51] <schmirgo> Frogzoo: ok, ill give it a try ^^
[09:51] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: dunno, but if it only affects only one user, it's not the system's fault. your user's gnome session settings are broken
[09:51] <Frogzoo> schmirgo: but realise the update process is, like the rest of dapper, currently beta
[09:52] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, well how do I go about fixing it?
[09:52] <Mabus06> Frogzoo: is there more I can see in auth log? Like see what password they tried to enter on me?
[09:52] <schmirgo> Frogzoo: thats ok ;)
[09:52] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: that's what i was referring to by "dunno" :(
[09:52] <Frogzoo> Mabus06: /var/log/auth*
[09:52] <ph1qt10n> how can i convert RPM to DEB
[09:52] <ReWT_AxS> Anyone know how to fic a users gnome session setting?
[09:52] <ReWT_AxS> *fix
[09:53] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: i'd start deleting my gconf and gnome settings in my home directory, outside the gnome session
[09:53] <Mabus06> Frogzoo: what's the difference between auth.log and auth.0.log?
[09:53] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Well, now I have it set to ALSA as when I set it to OSS and test it, it gives that unable to create pipeline error
[09:54] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, how and what do I do after it's deleted?
[09:55] <weekang> hi
[09:55] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: sorry, I meant from amarok -> settings -> engine
[09:55] <weekang> i have trouble accessing a network windows share
[09:55] <weekang> drive
[09:55] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: there's an option for 'output plugin'
[09:56] <jbritz22> can anyone here help me with fluxbox menuy
[09:56] <Phlosten> jbritz22, find the fluxbox page on the wiki
[09:56] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: logout, login at the console, delete (or rename) the .gnonfd and .gconf directories
[09:56] <jbritz22> !fluxbox
[09:56] <ubotu> it has been said that fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[09:57] <Phlosten> that one
[09:57] <jbritz22> I dont need installation instructions
[09:57] <jbritz22> Just need to know how to run something from root from the menu, putting sudo amarok doesnt work
[09:57] <Phlosten> jbritz22, read that page as there is information about fixing a menu issue with it
[09:57] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Well, under engine, the only choice I have is aRts, or no engine, and I don't see anyway to configure the engine it's self.
[09:57] <Phlosten> jbritz22, ah, try 'gksudo
[09:57] <Frogzoo> Mabus06: auth.log.0 is an archived log
[09:57] <jbritz22> Phlosten
[09:57] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, what would the command be, I'm kinda new to this...what will happen when these are deleted, and will i lose my information? (this is on my account i installed ubuntu with)
[09:57] <jbritz22> Phlosten, ok will do
[09:57] <Phlosten> jbritz22, graphical sudo
[09:58] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: half way down the page... output plugin
[09:58] <jbritz22> sweetness
[09:58] <Mabus06> Frogzoo: So what should I do? Call somebody, or just post in irc.2600.net that 69.72.217.130 has an open sshd server?
[09:58] <jbritz22> it worked man
[09:58] <jbritz22> thanks
[09:59] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Ok, I go under settings, and then I go to configure amarok, and under there I don't have anything that says output plugin
[09:59] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, On the left, I have "General, Apperance, Playback, OSD, Engine, Collection, Scrobbler"
[09:59] <dragoon> DrBanzai: try it
[10:00] <BugS> i upgraded to dapper yesterday, and now the system monitor is reporting 10 times less memory usage
[10:00] <BugS> how can that be ?
[10:00] <BugS> firefox and thunderbird used to take over 150MB of memory each
[10:00] <BugS> now i have 30MB for firefox and about 20MB for thunderbird
[10:01] <IzeyJr> I reinstalled my sound driver and made sure I booted in gnome and wine still wants to make a KDE folder and link to mcop any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:01] <razorclaw> how do i install the python source ?
[10:01] <RolfKaese|x> hay
[10:01] <jbritz22> why the hell does amarok lag my system so much when I run it from root, it never did this normally
[10:02] <RolfKaese|x> I have a major problem with my ubuntu / win xp :/
[10:02] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, what would the command be, I'm kinda new to this...what will happen when these are deleted, and will i lose my information? (this is on my account i installed ubuntu with) dunno if you seen this message haven't gotten a reply, sorry to be a pest :(
[10:02] <DarthShrine> Don't run it from root?
[10:02] <jbritz22> DarthShrine, I need to, otherwise can't access my partitions
[10:02] <DarthShrine> O_o
[10:02] <Matthewv> hi ESPOiG
[10:02] <ReWT_AxS> RolfKaese|x, , what's the problem?
[10:02] <DarthShrine> That doesn't sound normal
[10:03] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: my setup is different because I'm running esd, but under engine, there's gstreamer confign - output plugin
[10:03] <RolfKaese|x> yesterday i updated ubuntu since i didnt log on to it for few weeks
[10:03] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Which engine are you using?
[10:03] <basti__> what is that software called to rip cd's to mp3s?
[10:03] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: gstreamer
[10:03] <RolfKaese|x> it updated the kernel and some more stuff, and it told me that its recommended to reboot, so i did, but afterwards windows xp disappeared from GRUB menu
[10:03] <DarthShrine> basti__, LAME?
[10:03] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Ahh, see, I don't have that choice for some reason
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> i looked up the menu.lst and the win xp entry is missing
[10:04] <DarthShrine> basti__, There are many.
[10:04] <ReWT_AxS> edit your grub boot menu and add it onto it?
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> i re-added it but it doesnt work
[10:04] <basti__> DarthShrine: the easy one with a gui
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> by trying to choose it from grub it told me filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82
[10:04] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: this will probably help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Amarok
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> along with error 12 invalid device requested
[10:04] <ReWT_AxS> hmm dunno? did you check forums? a lot of poeple were having problems with windows dissappearing from grub
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> :/
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> y i did
[10:05] <basti__> DarthShrine: I read about it in a howto but forgot what it was called
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> but nuthing helped :|
[10:05] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Thank you!
[10:05] <IzeyJr> razorclaw...why would ya want to do that when you can goto package manager and just install from there?
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> now i went so far using my xp recovery cD
[10:05] <razorclaw> IzeyJr, wouldn't a apt-get source python work ?
[10:05] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno mate im having problems with my gnome display manager
[10:05] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x  did u add it to menu.lst with the right options
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> yup
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> didnt work
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> i could access it through gnome though
[10:06] <RolfKaese|x> BUT
[10:06] <IzeyJr> razorclaw....it would be bettter to go to they're website and DL it
[10:06] <RolfKaese|x> now with recovery console i used "fixmbr"
[10:06] <RolfKaese|x> and now the partition is missing from the table
[10:06] <razorclaw> IzeyJr, u mean www.python.org ?
[10:06] <Matthewv> Isn't part type 0x82 linux swap...??? somebody?
[10:06] <TraceGreen> hello, how can i get a string's crc32 checksum in linux?
[10:06] <ReWT_AxS> sounds to me like you deleted your windows partition
[10:06] <IzeyJr> razorclaw...yeah
[10:06] <ReWT_AxS> and thats why it wont boot nor show up
[10:06] <razorclaw> sigh
[10:06] <RolfKaese|x> which means i cant access it anymore , neither through gnome nor some other stuff
[10:06] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: you will lose your custom settings and get a default gnome session. you will lose no data
[10:06] <razorclaw> have to find the right python version
[10:07] <Matthewv> or deleted the reference to it in the part table
[10:07] <RolfKaese|x> i dont think i lost any data
[10:07] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, so my gdesklets and my new background will be gone?
[10:07] <IzeyJr> razorclaw the package manager will have all versions mine does
[10:07] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: ah, I have it - you should install either amarok-gstreamer or amarok-xine
[10:07] <Matthewv> it probably still exists.. just the partition table is gone.. so if you couold access it in linux b4 u should still be able to now..
[10:07] <weekang> how do i deal with a tar.bz2 file?
[10:07] <RolfKaese|x> because gnome showed me the partition with format NTFS , i also was able to execute any file there is on it
[10:07] <ReWT_AxS> if i save my background in a file will it be there when i get the new gnome stuff?
[10:07] <Frogzoo> weekang: bunzip2
[10:07] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Well, I just apt-get'ed amarok-engines, so we;ll see what that does
[10:07] <RolfKaese|x> no thats the problem
[10:07] <RolfKaese|x> i cant access it now
[10:08] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x what does gparted show??
[10:08] <RolfKaese|x> it still shows me the partition is there
[10:08] <RolfKaese|x> but i cant access
[10:08] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: the gdesklets and the background files will still be there, but gnome-sessions won't remenber your settings
[10:08] <RolfKaese|x> gparted?
[10:08] <stewski> anyone got tvtime and compiz working together
[10:08] <ReWT_AxS> so ill just have to readd the background?
[10:08] <IzeyJr> well I got to figure out why wine thinks I have a KDE desktop instead of Gnome
[10:08] <marsh>  Question: is it possible to customize an install? OR is there an easy way to uninstall package dependancies? or do I have to find the packages - write down the deps and remove them by hand?
[10:08] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: yes
[10:08] <DrBanzai> Looks like I need to reboot or at least re-login now though
[10:08] <Matthewv> sry RolfKaese|x you probably don't have it installed... if u do it would be in Applications --> System Tools
[10:08] <ReWT_AxS> alright so how do i go about deleting these things and getting it back?
[10:09] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, can we pvmsg?
[10:09] <RolfKaese|x> hmm
[10:09] <RolfKaese|x> i dunno, i have much stuff there :D
[10:09] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: renaming: "mv .gconfd .gconfd-backup" and "mv .gconf .gconf-backup"
[10:09] <razorclaw> IzeyJr, apt-get install python-dev was what i was looking for, sorry
[10:09] <RolfKaese|x> but i run my ubuntu in german :O
[10:09] <RolfKaese|x> can i change it to english?
[10:09] <bicho> exit
[10:09] <bicho> EXIT
[10:09] <RolfKaese|x> bugs me that german isnt quite appropriate to fix stuff
[10:10] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x why would u need to change to english for this?
[10:10] <RolfKaese|x> because the names of the programs differ
[10:10] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: it's better to stay in the channel, where others can see if we are making horrible mistakes
[10:10] <ReWT_AxS> ok
[10:10] <ReWT_AxS> so those are the only command i use?
[10:10] <ReWT_AxS> exactly how you typed them
[10:10] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: yes, they might be enough
[10:11] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x the program in the package manager will still be called gparted.. so u can just see if its installed, or run gparted from terminal
[10:11] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: lose the " stuff of course
[10:11] <ReWT_AxS> will they come back?
[10:11] <RolfKaese|x> okay wait i look it up
[10:11] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: yes, but they will be new ones, the ubuntu default
[10:11] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, so i hit, logout, then login to my user thats messed up and type that stuff before starting xserver?
[10:12] <ReWT_AxS> login using the shell
[10:12] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: yes. then login to X and maybe you have a default desktop
[10:12] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, will I lose my desktop icons? and my custom launchers i made?
[10:12] <RolfKaese|x> Matthewv i dont have it installed
[10:13] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: not sure about the launchers, but your folders and files will be there
[10:13] <ReWT_AxS> k
[10:13] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x ok... maybe someone who knows more about this can help u further.. i would have liked to see what gparted said.. but it appears that fixmbr somehow removed the ntfs partition from the partition table, meaning that it is still there, just not referenced in the mbr
[10:13] <RolfKaese|x> installing it now..
[10:13] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, i'll be right back
[10:14] <ReWT_AxS> wish meh luck guys
[10:14] <ReWT_AxS> and ladies if there are any in here
[10:14] <ReWT_AxS> whats the button to logout?
[10:14] <ReWT_AxS> or key command
[10:14] <damian__> hi wheres the file to stop gdm
[10:14] <ReWT_AxS> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[10:14] <damian__> gnome services stop or something
[10:14] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x can u access the partition in linux...
[10:14] <RolfKaese|x> yeah looks like that, but its strange since it shouldve "fixed" it like actually adding it lol...
[10:14] <RolfKaese|x> nope
[10:14] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: yes ctrl-alt-backspace is the quick'n'dirty way
[10:14] <ReWT_AxS> k
[10:14] <ReWT_AxS> brb
[10:14] <RolfKaese|x> its displayed, but not accessable
[10:15] <RolfKaese|x> ok
[10:15] <damian__> gnome services stop or something
[10:15] <RolfKaese|x> opening gparted now
[10:15] <damian__> hi wheres the file to stop gdm
[10:15] <damian__> need to stop it respawning
[10:15] <Frogzoo> suggestions? amarok-engines: Depends: amarok (= 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4) but 2:1.3.7-0ubuntu4~breezy1 is to be installed
[10:16] <RolfKaese|x> Matthewv  gparted shows it as unknown file format
[10:16] <RolfKaese|x> D:
[10:16] <ReWT_AxS> k well i did it
[10:16] <damian__> hi wheres the file to stop gdm
[10:16] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: is that using the amarok repos?
[10:16] <damian__> need to stop it respawning
[10:16] <damian__> hi wheres the file to stop gdm
[10:16] <damian__> need to stop it respawning
[10:16] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: amarok repos?
[10:16] <ReWT_AxS> and well my custom settings are gone, but i still have no panels and no window buttons
[10:16] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[10:16] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:16] <ReWT_AxS> naulilus was still only thing that loaded
[10:16] <damian__> !respawn
[10:16] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, damian__
[10:17] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: I'll give these a go - thx
[10:17] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x what does the command "sudo fdisk -l" give u (without quotes)?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> ^^ Frogzoo there are amarok repos to add they should fix that depends issue
[10:17] <RolfKaese|x> just a sec
[10:17] <mat02> 3e wszystkim x)
[10:17] <Mabus06> is there a command to send a password to ssh in one line? ie, ssh -p password user@host or something
[10:17] <RolfKaese|x> /dev/hda1   *           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:17] <RolfKaese|x> /dev/hda2            2551       13326    86558220    f  W95 Erw. (LBA)
[10:17] <RolfKaese|x> /dev/hda5            2551       11477    71706096    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:17] <RolfKaese|x> /dev/hda6           11478       11739     2104483+  82  Linux Swap / Solaris
[10:17] <RolfKaese|x> /dev/hda7           11740       13059    10602868+  83  Linux
[10:17] <RolfKaese|x> /dev/hda8           13060       13068       72261   83  Linux
[10:17] <RolfKaese|x> /dev/hda9           13069       13326     2072353+   b  W95 FAT32
[10:17] <RolfKaese|x> :O
[10:18] <basti__> !encode
[10:18] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, basti__
[10:18] <basti__> !rip
[10:18] <ubotu> basti__: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:18] <RolfKaese|x> oops
[10:18] <RolfKaese|x> um
[10:18] <apokryphos> Mabus06: no, but you can very easily set up ssh keys, so it automatically logs you in
[10:18] <lcore> Mabus06: afaik there isn't. You should use rsa/dsa passwordless auth or ssh-agent auth in scripts.
[10:18] <RolfKaese|x> /dev/hda5            2551       11477    71706096    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:18] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x sry.. should have warned u.. :)
[10:18] <RolfKaese|x> :D
[10:18] <RolfKaese|x> there
[10:18] <apokryphos> RolfKaese|x: please use a pastebin for large pastes :)
[10:19] <RolfKaese|x> thats the partition where my windows is located
[10:19] <RolfKaese|x> its shown as NTFS in fstab list
[10:19] <schmirgo> Mabus06: man ssh
[10:19] <RolfKaese|x> :<
[10:19] <basti__> !mp3
[10:19] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:19] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, any more suggestions?
[10:20] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x so what is the exact error message if you try to go to windows from grub...
[10:21] <RolfKaese|x> before i sued MBR
[10:21] <RolfKaese|x> *used
[10:21] <RolfKaese|x> it was
[10:21] <RolfKaese|x> root(hd0,5)
[10:21] <ReWT_AxS> Matthewv, I think he said windows wasn't on grub anymore?
[10:21] <RolfKaese|x> filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82
[10:21] <Matthewv> but he added it...
[10:21] <RolfKaese|x> yes, after i added it again the things im saying now occured
[10:21] <RolfKaese|x> Error 12: invalided device requested
[10:21] <RolfKaese|x> and thats it
[10:22] <ReWT_AxS> Must have something wrong it in there, RolfKaese|x
[10:22] <ReWT_AxS> sure you got everything right?
[10:22] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x Maybe u could paste the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst on pastebin
[10:22] <RolfKaese|x> wait..
[10:22] <RolfKaese|x> pastebin?
[10:22] <RolfKaese|x> :O
[10:22] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, still around mate?
[10:22] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[10:22] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[10:24] <RolfKaese|x> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10639
[10:24] <stewski> anyone have a working xgl/tvtime combo?
[10:24] <RolfKaese|x> my menu.lst
[10:25] <RolfKaese|x> and here the fstab -l list
[10:25] <RolfKaese|x> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10640
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell stewski about xgl
[10:25] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: was shaving :)
[10:25] <topyli> no luck?
[10:25] <ReWT_AxS> :)
[10:25] <ReWT_AxS> no luck
[10:25] <ReWT_AxS> just different background and colors
[10:25] <topyli> hrm
[10:26] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: well we got rid of something but apparently not enough
[10:26] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, indeed.
[10:26] <ReWT_AxS> now what?
[10:27] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x try.. just changing your windows entry to look like mine @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10641     I don't know if it'll change anything.. but...  i s'pose its worth a try
[10:27] <RolfKaese|x> :S
[10:28] <RolfKaese|x> mh no i dont think it will work
[10:28] <RolfKaese|x> cuz it looked like that once before, tried that too
[10:28] <RolfKaese|x> what a mess
[10:28] <RolfKaese|x> looks like i first have to recover the partition table that i will feature my windows partition again
[10:29] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x oh... probably just a problem with mbr then... :( could u verify what u mean... u can't access it at all??
[10:29] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: how old is your installation?
[10:29] <damian__> how can i replace metacity with something else?
[10:29] <ReWT_AxS> topyli maybe 2-3 months?
[10:29] <RolfKaese|x> no, cant access it at all
[10:29] <ReWT_AxS> if that
[10:29] <RolfKaese|x> when i go to disc overview in ubuntu
[10:30] <RolfKaese|x> select my hdd
[10:30] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: i'd like to suggest moving .gnome2 too
[10:30] <RolfKaese|x> and list the partition
[10:30] <ReWT_AxS> how
[10:30] <ReWT_AxS> mv .gnome2 .gnome2-backup
[10:30] <bissano> hi all
[10:30] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[10:30] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: yes
[10:30] <ReWT_AxS> k brb
[10:30] <RolfKaese|x> it shows me the partition
[10:30] <RolfKaese|x> of windows
[10:30] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x what if u try a "sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[10:30] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: and you'll have to do the others again
[10:30] <RolfKaese|x> but status: inaccessable
[10:31] <RolfKaese|x> i try
[10:31] <RolfKaese|x> i need to specify the file system type
[10:31] <ReWT_AxS> That worked!
[10:31] <bissano> mama
[10:31] <ReWT_AxS> Now how do I get my old settings back?
[10:31] <ReWT_AxS> :-P
[10:31] <bissano> :)
[10:32] <ReWT_AxS> It's taking forever for my gdesklets to load now?
[10:32] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x try changing auto to ntfs...
[10:32] <RolfKaese|x> k
[10:33] <RolfKaese|x> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10642
[10:33] <RolfKaese|x> getting this error
[10:33] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: you have to re-add the gdesklets like you did before :(
[10:33] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x /dev/hda5?? is that your windows partition?
[10:33] <RolfKaese|x> ya
[10:33] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, so i have to just re-add everything?
[10:33] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: you can delete .gconf-backup and .gconfd-backup but NOT .gnome2-backup. it has data in it
[10:34] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: yes
[10:34] <ReWT_AxS> what data is in it?
[10:34] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x what's /dev/hda1... its also ntfs?
[10:34] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno how to delete them anyways
[10:34] <RolfKaese|x> mmh
[10:34] <schmirgo> try vfat or ntfs
[10:34] <topyli> if you've used the revelation password manager for example, its data is in there
[10:34] <RolfKaese|x> yes, its my old win xp partition i yet didnt delete
[10:34] <RolfKaese|x> but it isnt working anymore cuz i got new pc but used old hdd
[10:35] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: rhythmbox playlists, all sorts of stuff.
[10:35] <pvd2006> how do you turn on DMA support for a cdrom on ubuntu
[10:35] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: not really data, but stuff that might be annoying to restore
[10:36] <ReWT_AxS> I dont use rythmbox
[10:36] <ReWT_AxS> nor do i have set playlists
[10:36] <ReWT_AxS> lol
[10:36] <RolfKaese|x> oO
[10:37] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: just go on with your daily chores, and when you notice a gnome program has forgotten a lot of stuff, .gnome2-backup is where you look
[10:37] <Frogzoo> !tell pvd2006 about dma
[10:37] <ReWT_AxS> lol ok...
[10:37] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x i'm sorta stumped.. i would try posting on www.ubuntuforums.org... hopefully someone who understands fdisk well would be able to help u with fixing the mbr... i think thats what u need
[10:38] <ReWT_AxS> Thanks a lot! By the way, you any good ith resolution?
[10:38] <RolfKaese|x> hmm yeah
[10:38] <ReWT_AxS> I can't get mine to 1280x768
[10:38] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: now's a good chance to redecorate your desktop if you've ever thought of doing that :)
[10:38] <basti__> !dma
[10:38] <ReWT_AxS> even though I added it
[10:38] <RolfKaese|x> but i will try to recover the partition by using testdisk now
[10:38] <RolfKaese|x> i hope it works under ubuntu lol
[10:38] <RolfKaese|x> hmm hmm
[10:38] <ReWT_AxS> Nah I gotta get my resolution down first, then it will look good.
[10:39] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: that's more basic x server stuff, i've been lucky and don't know much
[10:39] <ReWT_AxS> 1280x768 is in my xorg.conf but it's not showing in my dropdown list under the screen resolution
[10:40] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: hrm. you might have an impossible combination of color depth and resolution but i really couldn't say
[10:40] <ReWT_AxS> Dunno?
[10:41] <topyli> yeah somthing like that :)
[10:42] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: i didn't really know the gnome suff either, but that's how i've rescued myself in the past. somebody might have been able to save your settings
[10:43] <RolfKaese|x> small question
[10:43] <Frogzoo> wow - the xine engine in amarok pwns gstreamer
[10:43] <ESPOiG> does neone know wat to type to get gnome runnin in FreeBSD cuz im logined as root in TEXT mode :P
[10:43] <RolfKaese|x> when i install applications through the package list thing
[10:43] <RolfKaese|x> if they are not listed in gnome application bar stuff
[10:43] <RolfKaese|x> where are they or how to run them
[10:43] <sethk> ESPOiG, try startx
[10:43] <ESPOiG> kk thx
[10:44] <sethk> RolfKaese|x, they should be on a menu somewhere.
[10:44] <pengo> how do i tell which version of ubuntu i'm running?
[10:44] <RolfKaese|x> but where lol
[10:44] <basti__> !dma
[10:44] <sethk> RolfKaese|x, you can look at a llog and find the files, but I don't know if you can discover the menu entries that way
[10:44] <basti__> why dont I get any answer on !dma ?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> !version
[10:44] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[10:45] <RolfKaese|x> hmm
[10:45] <sethk> basti__, maybe because it isn't a question?
[10:45] <basti__> sethk: no... it was because the bot was lagging..
[10:45] <basti__> I got them now
[10:45] <sethk> basti__, k.
[10:46] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x if they are not on the menus, u can usually add an entry urself, and find the apps in the terminal.. they usually have a command to run them, often the same as their package name
[10:46] <callie> anyone here good with boot scripts?
[10:46] <sethk> basti__, I'll try it
[10:46] <sethk> !dma
[10:46] <RolfKaese|x> hmmk
[10:46] <gnomefreak> RolfKaese|x: they are more than likely text apps and either run them in terminal or add the debian menu to your know menu
[10:46] <DrBanzai> callie, As in for grub?
[10:46] <sethk> not bad
[10:46] <neo911> why is it when i start my ymessenger as normal user it goes back to the set-up but when i start ym as root that's the only time when it starts the already installed ym application? thanks
[10:46] <sethk> neo911, probably you were logged in as root when you configured it
[10:47] <callie> DrBanzai, no, i want to startx with no login as default
[10:47] <neo911> the implication of this is i always have to start ym within a shell so i can enter a password for the root
[10:47] <Phlank> Argh! This is becoming quite annoying, I open kcontrol and try using administrator mode and it acts like it's about to go into it and it just sits there doing nothing
[10:47] <sethk> callie, might be easiest to approach that as gdm configuration
[10:47] <neo911> sethk, so i have to reinstall it as normal user? thanks
[10:47] <RolfKaese|x> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10643
[10:47] <ReWT_AxS> alright
[10:48] <greencrossboy> gnome user here. how do i connect to a windows printer and print there?
[10:48] <RolfKaese|x> could it be its somewhere in these "folders"?
[10:48] <ReWT_AxS> why when i change from like alt+f's sometimes my system freezes and i have to do a hard reboot?
[10:48] <DrBanzai> callie,  Ahhh
[10:48] <sethk> RolfKaese|x, an app?  I haven't seen that, but I guess it's possible ...
[10:48] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x just run the command testdisk from terminal.. that shouold do it
[10:48] <RolfKaese|x> ok
[10:49] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: you have an ATI video card and you're using the fglrx drivers?
[10:49] <neo911> anyone know the latest ymessenger version avail for ubuntu? thanks
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell greencrossboy about print
[10:49] <MrDez> anybody use Kontact in conjunction with egroupware (fork of phpgroupware that actually 'works')?
[10:49] <callie> sethk, its an old computer running ubuntu server and xfce, so i dont want to have to use gdm if i can get away with out it
[10:49] <ReWT_AxS> i have ati and im using vesa drivers
[10:50] <ReWT_AxS> i couldnt get fglrx to work
[10:50] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: how'd you do?
[10:50] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: try the "ati" driver
[10:50] <Frogzoo> ReWT_AxS: which vid card?
[10:50] <sethk> callie, you can do it without gdm
[10:50] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, I haven't rebooted yet, I'm in the middle of configuring another box to be my web/mail server
[10:50] <RolfKaese|x> ok
[10:50] <callie> sethk, i know, i just dont know how ;)
[10:50] <RolfKaese|x> its running
[10:51] <neo911> is 1.04 the latest ymessenger version for ubuntu? where can i get this sort of info?
[10:51] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: I tried the xine engine just for fun, and it clobbers gstreamer - huge improvement
[10:51] <gnomefreak> neo911: apt-cache search ymessenger
[10:51] <RolfKaese|x> lol
[10:51] <RolfKaese|x> its checking all cylinders now
[10:51] <DrBanzai> Yeah, the link you gave me said xine was best...I plan to use it when I get that far.
[10:51] <sethk> callie, that's one thing that I find a bit awkward in ubuntu (compared to some other distros); it doesn't have a run level for normal but not gui
[10:51] <RolfKaese|x> 232453 total
[10:51] <RolfKaese|x> it just reached 5000
[10:51] <RolfKaese|x> weee
[10:51] <neo911> so why is it again that in ubuntu theres no need to defragment?
[10:51] <RolfKaese|x> 6000
[10:51] <sethk> callie, which means you have to go in and modify what happens for level 2
[10:51] <RolfKaese|x> xD
[10:52] <neo911> the harddisk?
[10:52] <Frogzoo> ReWT_AxS: which vid card?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> neo911: because the package manager puts files where they are needed
[10:52] <callie> sethk, ah
[10:52] <sethk> neo911, in modern systems there really is no need to defrag period, if you have anything vaguely acceptable as a file system
[10:52] <DrBanzai> neo911, Because it uses a file system that dosen't get fragmented
[10:52] <RolfKaese|x> ok while i wait another small question for later
[10:52] <RolfKaese|x> i have a widescreen TFT
[10:53] <callie> sethk, that sounds like i could be entering fragging my system territory
[10:53] <RolfKaese|x> and when i kill gnome , i dont see the terminal
[10:53] <RolfKaese|x> my tft tells me that theres no digital input and turns off
[10:53] <RolfKaese|x> :/
[10:53] <sethk> callie, well, yes, but my answer to that is always the same:  don't be afraid, back up.
[10:53] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x kill gnome, as in....???
[10:53] <sethk> callie, make a tar archive of your /etc directory
[10:53] <RolfKaese|x> ctrl alt backspace
[10:53] <sethk> callie, then, if you get into trouble, you can restore it
[10:53] <neo911> DrBanzai, that's the obviuous answer i suppose im implying that what i want to know in my question is why ubuntu filesysem doesnt get frag like XP does
[10:54] <sethk> callie, the other thing I always do is check every file I am changing into RCS _before_ I change it.
[10:54] <sethk> callie, that let's me revert on a file by file basis if necessary
[10:54] <RolfKaese|x> goddamn this testdisk is slow lol
[10:54] <Matthewv> ctrl alt backspace should kill gnome and bring u back to login prompt.. if u want a terminal try ctrl+alt+F1
[10:54] <sethk> callie, RCS is a small package that isn't installed by default.  I would install it.
[10:54] <sethk> callie, then spend 10 or 15 minutes learning how to use it.
[10:54] <DrBanzai> neo911, Ahh, well, that magic I can't explain...
[10:54] <callie> sethk, that sounds like a darn good package
[10:54] <sethk> callie, then you'll be able to hack away without fear  :)
[10:55] <sethk> callie, it's essential
[10:55] <dragoon> whats RCS do ?
[10:55] <sethk> dragoon, revision control system is what it stands for
[10:55] <dragoon> ah k
[10:55] <Frogzoo> neo911: I would assume because the ext2 driver actively manages block location - & relocates blocks where necessary
[10:55] <sethk> dragoon, you check in a file, then you can check in versions as you make changes
[10:55] <neo911> DrBanzai, hah and you call yourself a doctor :-)
[10:55] <sethk> dragoon, then you can revert to any previous version, get a history of exactly what you changed, get a diff of any pair of versions, etc.
[10:56] <DrBanzai> neo911, Well, Dr. Banzai was a brain surgeon and rocket scientist, not a linux guru...
[10:56] <sethk> dragoon, it's a life saver for programmers, and it is (IMHO) even more useful for system config files
[10:56] <callie> sethk, the other solution is to get xdm running but im not sure how to set it up, what i've read hasnt been helpfull
[10:56] <dragoon> hrm ok
[10:56] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x and ctrl+alt+F7 to get back
[10:56] <neo911> Frogzoo, ah so you mean whenever you write on the disk, defragmentation is done everytime?
[10:56] <sethk> callie, xdm is just as heavy as gdm, so why would xdm be any better than gdm?
[10:57] <callie> sethk, i was under the impression it was lighter
[10:57] <neo911> so fragmentation doesn't "accumulate"
[10:57] <Frogzoo> neo911: I imagine that's how it works
[10:57] <sethk> callie, maybe very slightly, but not significantly, IMO
[10:57] <neo911> Frogzoo, oh so you're guessing just like me?
[10:58] <sethk> callie, and it is a real bear to configure
[10:58] <RolfKaese|x> Matthewv um y
[10:58] <RolfKaese|x> *yeah
[10:58] <Frogzoo> neo911: yup
[10:58] <RolfKaese|x> but as said, when i kill gnome i dont see the terminal, although its there
[10:58] <callie> ok, im gonna try gdm and if its too much strain i'll take the RCS route sethk
[10:58] <Swiftttt> hi
[10:59] <callie> sethk, thanks for the info :D
[10:59] <gnomefreak> RolfKaese|x: when you hit ctrl+alt+backspace you dont see where it asks for log-in?
[10:59] <sethk> callie, np.  I think once you are up and running gdm will get swapped out and it won't use any noticable resources
[10:59] <RolfKaese|x> log-in?
[10:59] <RolfKaese|x> no no when i really KILL it
[10:59] <RolfKaese|x> kill, shut down
[10:59] <RolfKaese|x> :D
[10:59] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: the amarok repo worked nicely, thankyou
[10:59] <callie> sethk, ah so it backgrounds as soon as the wm is up? cool
[11:00] <gnomefreak> yw Frogzoo
[11:00] <RolfKaese|x> normally the terminal would appear where i could re-start gdm
[11:00] <RolfKaese|x> or do other stuff
[11:00] <RolfKaese|x> and it IS there
[11:00] <RolfKaese|x> but i dont see it cuz my tft tells me "no digital input" and shuts itself down
[11:00] <RolfKaese|x> D:
[11:00] <Swiftttt> I just installed ubuntu and right after its all setup ect updated all that I created a sata bios raid 1 mirror of it and its currently mirrored but im wondering what the easiest way to backup ubuntu is???
[11:00] <RolfKaese|x> small note: i run the tft over digital output of my gfx
[11:00] <RolfKaese|x> :3
[11:01] <marsh> obotu
[11:01] <callie> ok, bbl!
[11:01] <Swiftttt> any ideas?
[11:01] <marsh> Ubugtu tell marsh about xorg
[11:01] <_Dan_> Hi, which channel would be appopriate for questions about translations and Launchpad ?
[11:01] <neo911> !windows
[11:01] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo911
[11:01] <Swiftttt> backup ubuntu the simplest way on a sata bios raid1 mirrored set
[11:01] <neo911> !bill gates
[11:01] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo911
[11:01] <marsh> ubotu tell marsh about xorg
[11:01] <Frogzoo> _Dan_: for translations, maybe #ubuntu+1 seeing as lion is big for dapper
[11:02] <neo911> !ubuntu vs windows
[11:02] <rewt|axs> back
[11:02] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo911
[11:02] <Swiftttt> who cant see me?
[11:02] <Swiftttt> (0_o)
[11:02] <rewt|axs> I can.
[11:02] <_Dan_> Frogzoo: Thanks, I will try it there.
[11:02] <Swiftttt> Rewt you can see me :P
[11:02] <rewt|axs> yes
[11:02] <gnomefreak> Swiftttt: we see you and when someone knows they will answer you
[11:02] <Swiftttt> people cant see me supposed to say so lol
[11:02] <RolfKaese|x> Swiftttt : remember.. only because you cant see them doesnt mean they cant see you
[11:02] <rewt|axs> what's the question?
[11:03] <rewt|axs> hey what's dia?
[11:03] <rewt|axs> !dia
[11:03] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rewt|axs
[11:03] <Swiftttt> I installed ubuntu and I want the easiest way to backup
[11:03] <Swiftttt> does ubuntu have system restore lol
[11:03] <rewt|axs> Back what up?
[11:03] <Swiftttt> >_<
[11:03] <rewt|axs> There is a recovery mode?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> !backup
[11:03] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[11:03] <gnomefreak> ^^^ there
[11:04] <Swiftttt> thanx :D
[11:04] <operative> did the latest update break the rt2500 wireless driver for anyone
[11:04] <operative> ?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> operative: latest update on what?
[11:05] <operative> kernel i imagine
[11:05] <operative> just updated a system that was about 1 month out of date, wifi broke :-s just wondering if it is documented
[11:06] <kingspawn> my first rule of thumb is to never operate anything that hasnt got a cable connected to it
[11:06] <DarthShrine> Rhythmboxes "random" playing isn't very random
[11:06] <DarthShrine> Rhythmbox's*
[11:06] <rixth> I have w32codecs, totem-xine. I can play WMVs but not XviD's, what's up?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> operative: could you maybe give me a hint on to what kernel?
[11:07] <DarthShrine> kingspawn, Yeh, well...Normally a computer won't work without a cable.
[11:07] <kingspawn> operative, but that said, i haven't hear anything about it specifically breaking the wifi. tried searching the forums?
[11:07] <DarthShrine> A laptop, maybe. But not for a very long time.
[11:07] <operative> gnomefreak: standard desktop install
[11:07] <gnomefreak> operative: for all i know you are using hoary or dapper or warty
[11:07] <kingspawn> DarthShrine, no, it wont, but wifi and wireless stuff in general doesn't really work to well, in my opinion. it just makes me go all jittery.
[11:08] <operative> hoary, sorry
[11:08] <kingspawn> s/to/too
[11:08] <Frogzoo> operative: upgrade to dapper then
[11:08] <Frogzoo> sorry - not dapper - breezy
[11:08] <gnomefreak> operative: upgrade to breezy wifi should work at that point
[11:08] <DarthLappy> Though my laptop with a WiFi card works flawlessly in ever Linux I've ever stuck on it
[11:08] <kingspawn> DarthLappy, you are making me jittery with two nicks also.. ;)
[11:08] <bimberi> Swiftttt: have a look at the "sbackup" package as well  (note that it adds entries to the System -> Administration menu)
[11:09] <operative> Sorry I meant the current stable, which of course is breezy not hoary
[11:09] <DarthLappy> kingspawn, Hehe, I just type on whichever one I'm using at the time. And I switch a lot.
[11:09] <rewt|axs> is it safe to remove all the accesability programs if i'll never use them?
[11:09] <operative> Ubuntu is on my girlfriends box for its general doeverythinability
[11:09] <rewt|axs> accessibility*
[11:09] <gnomefreak> operative: ok operative what kernel is it now that you have?  <hint> uname -r <hint>
[11:10] <Hawk|-> someone used owfs?!
[11:11] <operative> gnomefreak: whatever the standard K is, im not near that computer
[11:11] <kingspawn> rewt|axs, go nuts
[11:11] <nstuart> hmmmm nice install, but why don't things like xterm and eterm show up in my menus after an update-menus
[11:12] <wharry> how to config my wifi card to connect a Wroute with WPA-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key),I use intel pro 2200
[11:13] <nstuart> I assume that once I remove gnome terminal it will tell me I have no term programs ?
[11:13] <DarthLappy> Why would vmplayer crash (loading Windows) after upgrading to an smp kernel, and re-vmware-configging?
[11:14] <Hattori> how to check logs of boot?
[11:14] <Hattori> it hangs in boot sequence, how to check what's up?
[11:14] <wharry> is there any additional configuration?or just use text password directly?
[11:14] <kingspawn> Hattori, have a look at "dmesg" and at the files in /var/log
[11:15] <DarthLappy> OOo takes up far too much RAM :/
[11:15] <gary> Any recommendations for linux applications that are able to access databases and edit them over the web?
[11:16] <Hawk|-> mysql?
[11:16] <gary> yes
[11:17] <dhalgren> hi
[11:17] <Hawk|-> mhh phpmyadmin
[11:18] <dhalgren> Can anyone tell me how to get back a "pure" apt sources list after it has been modified by programs like easyubuntu? I am using breezy
[11:18] <Seveas> !sources
[11:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:19] <number5> what's the different between universe and multverse?
[11:19] <dhalgren> ok, fine, but just what does  "!sources" mean? i know you are referring me to something ;-)
[11:20] <gnomefreak> number5: the packages that they contain
[11:20] <kingspawn> dhalgren, the links..
[11:20] <gnomefreak> !sources
[11:20] <Hawk|-> dhalgren, the answer comes from ubotu
[11:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:20] <gnomefreak> thats what !sources means
[11:20] <number5> !easysource
[11:20] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:20] <dhalgren> cool, now i understand. thanks
[11:21] <dhalgren> ND ONE DAY I WILL LEARTN HOW TO LEAVE POLITELY INSTEAD OF JUST DISCONNECTING. cHEERS ALL.
[11:21] <void^> one day, but not today it seems
[11:21] <ompaul> dhalgren, no caps lock thanks
[11:22] <POVaddct> xmodmap -e 'remove lock = Caps_Lock'
[11:22] <ompaul> were they being a problem?
[11:23] <kingspawn> ompaul, nope, not really
[11:23] <ompaul> k
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ompaul: no
[11:23] <DarthShrine> How does WebBoard work?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> DarthShrine: is it installed and on your taskbar?
[11:23] <marsh> I have a problem... I have been in here to ask about removing dependencies when removing packages (theres lots of bits I dont want from my original install) but nobody will speak to me if I ask about it. I have been after this info for a while (few months) in various rooms. Why does no-one want to broach this subject? I can find next to nothing usefull in google/nutshel dpkg pages/manpages/apropos...
[11:23] <ompaul> kingspawn, and your build-essential must be the same as mine :-) it installs GCC also
[11:23] <marsh> is there any chance someone could tell me why?
[11:24] <DarthShrine> gnomefreak, Not yet.
[11:24] <marsh> am i missing something obvious?
[11:24] <DarthShrine> gnomefreak, It is installed.
[11:24] <Chousuke> echo foo
[11:24] <kingspawn> ompaul, yes yes, blah blah ;)
[11:24] <Frogzoo> marsh: it's a family secret we don't discuss in public
[11:24] <kingspawn> marsh, there is no definite answer to your question. i suggest that you experiment a little with it, trying to remove small bits and playing around with the systhem
[11:24] <gnomefreak> DarthShrine: you will want to copy whatever it is you are putting on pastebin than open it and everything you just copied should be there than press publish and either type the link as you see it or use openpage and cp the link to us ;)
[11:25] <Hattori> anybody see anything odd there: http://pastebin.com/615857    considering i have this problem: http://pastebin.com/615858
[11:26] <DarthShrine> gnomefreak, I dun quite geddit.
[11:26] <ompaul> marsh, shhh :-) sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name, if a meta package shows up that is not a problem but other stuff you may want to keep, best of class advice, install base system (we call it server install) and then add to it slowly you will be frustrated by having to add packages one at a time so defaults are considered "reasonable defaults" that is all there is on that subject
[11:26] <marsh> kingspawn - i've tried as little - but a bit scared of messing up the system... I cant even find out how to list the deps unless i come into synaptic.. :/
[11:26] <gnomefreak> DarthShrine: you said it is installed?
[11:26] <DarthShrine> gnomefreak, dpkg -i webboard.deb, ja
[11:27] <kingspawn> marsh, i can't remember how to list deps right now, try man apt-get and read a little about its workings
[11:27] <gnomefreak> DarthShrine: ok on the upper gnome panel right click and add launcher you will see webboard in there please add it to your panel
[11:27] <rss> Is it possible to change the default user? the user with sudo powers?
[11:27] <ompaul> marsh, apt-cache show package_name
[11:27] <marsh> ompaul - your a diamond.... I can feel my shoulders relaxing now. and I'm giggling bits as i type...
[11:27] <gnomefreak> kingspawn: you mean dpkg -l
[11:27] <kingspawn> gnomefreak, perhaps i do :)
[11:28] <Frogzoo> rss - anyone with group admin membership has sudo powers
[11:28] <ompaul> marsh, and if you get scared you can always do this: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop :-) the fun meta package
[11:28] <DarthLappy> gnomefreak, Oh, I see :)
[11:28] <lunari> How can I set up file sharing between two different computers running linux?
[11:28] <rss> Frogzoo: and this first user doesn't have any more special privileges, is it?
[11:28] <asshole> hi
[11:29] <rewt|axs> rss it will unless you change it from admin
[11:29] <Frogzoo> rss: see what's in 'groups' it's quite a bit
[11:29] <rss> Frogzoo: I can add another user to admin group and safely delete this user, right?
[11:30] <Frogzoo> rss: you'd best try the command 'groups' & make sure you move all the groups over you'll need
[11:30] <rss> Frogzoo: sure
[11:31] <marsh> ompaul - does the install ubuntu-desktop re-install the whole system?
[11:31] <ompaul> rmusr
[11:31] <ompaul> doh
[11:31] <ompaul> the top it looks for anything else it expects to be here
[11:32] <ompaul> marsh, sorry, let me do that again, that is the "top" meta package, the other one is ubuntu-base
[11:32] <ompaul> marsh, and you are at the edge of my knowledge there :)
[11:33] <kingspawn> anyone know which runlevel to boot for single user mode? i thought i saw on here earlier that there isn't one, but i'd like to make sure
[11:33] <marsh> omHehehe... ompaul - does that mean that if I remove the ubuntu-desktop --purge - then I have the server install?
[11:33] <ewz> hi all
[11:33] <Frogzoo> kingspawn: just select 'recovery mode' from the grub prompt
[11:33] <ompaul> marsh, you should do
[11:33] <gnomefreak> marsh: no
[11:33] <ompaul> ohh
[11:33] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[11:33] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[11:33] <ompaul> ahh yeap
[11:33] <kingspawn> Frogzoo, so recovery mode is analogous with "no x"?
[11:34] <marsh> exceelent - I'm gonna give it a gop... I'll let u know how it goes in a few days ;!
[11:34] <Frogzoo> kingspawn: no - recovery mode is 'single user' mode
[11:34] <marsh> gnomefreak - no???
[11:34] <ompaul> marsh, sorry its a yes no answer, if you take out gnome and so on yes one package at a time - however if that is what you want I would suggest that you do a reinstall
[11:34] <marsh> <- glad I saw that!
[11:35] <Frogzoo> just btw folks - dist-upgrade assumes ubuntu-desktop & ubuntu-base are both installed
[11:35] <ompaul> marsh, you can use them for construction not deconstuction
[11:35] <marsh> just because it's messy?
[11:35] <marsh> or because it just aint set up for it?
[11:35] <ompaul> marsh, yes
[11:35] <rewt|axs> Frogzoo so before I run command dist-upgrade i should first run ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base
[11:36] <ompaul> Frogzoo, ooch
[11:36] <untouch> hi , i need a little help pls
[11:36] <marsh> ok - point taken... server install it is then...
[11:36] <Frogzoo> rewt|axs: yup - that's what the docs say
[11:36] <rewt|axs> untouch, cant help without a question.
[11:36] <gnomefreak> rewt|axs: depends on what you are running dist-upgrade for
[11:36] <Frogzoo> !upgrade
[11:36] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[11:36] <untouch> i instaled kubuntu on my pc, i make apt-get update , i install automatix and i install nvidia drivers, and some players, and when i reboot i got that error: GRUB error 18
[11:36] <`ns`> gnome-games is a dependancy for ubuntu-desktop ??!!
[11:36] <gungan> hello,  I would like to connect my laptop with an external monitor,
[11:36] <rewt|axs> Frogzoo, what docs?
[11:36] <kingspawn> Frogzoo, hm, maybe i have my terms mixed up
[11:36] <rewt|axs> I wanna upgrade to dapper
[11:36] <marsh> ompaul - i have now gained more info in 5 minutes than in over 2 months of trying to find stuff out. thank you, my freind.
[11:37] <ompaul> !automatix
[11:37] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:37] <marsh> (if thats ok?)
[11:37] <rewt|axs> is it safe to run sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[11:37] <rewt|axs> ?
[11:37] <ompaul> untouch, ^^^
[11:37] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:37] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software. Release date is June 1 - http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq. /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[11:37] <ompaul> rewt|axs, ^^^
[11:37] <gnomefreak> rewt|axs: no its not a command
[11:38] <ompaul> marsh, enjoy :)
[11:38] <gungan> Does someone know how to set up an external monitor with a laptop
[11:38] <rewt|axs> oh
[11:38] <untouch> can anyone help me?!
[11:38] <Frogzoo> rewt|axs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:38] <rewt|axs> Frogzoo, thanks forthe link.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> untouch: would start with getting automatix as far off your hard drive as possible
[11:39] <Frogzoo> rewt|axs: np rewt|axs
[11:39] <gungan> Hello theren, Does someone know how to set up an external monitor with a laptop ?
[11:40] <rewt|axs> Frogzoo, is it safe to do all this stuff?
[11:41] <Frogzoo> rewt|axs: upgrade can run into problems, sure, but it's considered safe
[11:41] <Fujitsu> Quick visit...
[11:41] <Auckland_Pig> is hardware redetection possible? I added a new fat32 harddisk. knoppix recognizes it, but ubutnu doesnt....
[11:41] <untouch> gnomefreak, but what it the problem ?!
[11:41] <DarthLappy> O_o...
[11:41] <DarthLappy> VMware keeps breaking! :(
[11:42] <rewt|axs> alright
[11:42] <dragoon> damn
[11:42] <DarthLappy> I should say vmplayer*
[11:42] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu: tell me about hardware detection
[11:43] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu: tell me about hardware
[11:43] <shukhrat> how install codec's (mpeg, mp3) ?
[11:43] <DarthLappy> !restrictedformats
[11:43] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:44] <untouch> gnomefreak ??
[11:44] <gnomefreak> yes?
[11:44] <kingspawn> untouch, look at this: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656
[11:44] <kingspawn> it is not ubuntu specific, but grub error 18 has nothing to do with ubuntu, so that shouldn't be a problem
[11:44] <gnomefreak> untouch: with the error you are gettting look at the following link
[11:44] <gnomefreak> !grub
[11:44] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ^^^ untouch
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ok later all time for a very long day :(
[11:45] <gungan> Hello I don't know howto connect my laptop with an external monitor ???
[11:45] <untouch> but, how can i reinstall GRUB
[11:45] <untouch> ?!
[11:45] <DarthLappy> Wow...OOo recovered my crashed document...Yay!
[11:45] <Hawk|-> Someone got some expirience with OWFS 1-Wire filesystem?!
[11:45] <DarthLappy> Or not...It's the same as when I first opened it from the save :/
[11:46] <Hawk|-> i mean experience
[11:46] <gungan> gnomefreak can you help me out?
[11:47] <dragoon> wooo dapper updating
[11:48] <Jensku> Hello everyone
[11:49] <Jensku> ??
[11:49] <Jensku> were are you from?
[11:49] <untouch> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[11:49] <untouch> Error 15: File not found
[11:50] <ewz> hi untouch i found this link it might help u http://ubuntuos.com/2006/03/howto-restore-grub.html
[11:50] <ompaul> !grub
[11:50] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:51] <shukhrat> ubotu: mpeg, mp3
[11:51] <ubotu> shukhrat: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:51] <ompaul> !tell shukhrat about restricted
[11:51] <ompaul> shukhrat, please read message from bot
[11:52] <shukhrat> ompaul: got it
[11:52] <shukhrat> ubotu: how to install mpeg, mp3
[11:52] <ubotu> shukhrat: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <untouch> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:54] <untouch> /dev/hda1               1        2432    19535008+  83  Linux
[11:55] <untouch> grub> root (hd0,0)
[11:55] <untouch> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[11:55] <untouch> wtf ??
[11:55] <ompaul> shukhrat, ehh read the messge from ubotu
[11:56] <ompaul> shukhrat, it ehh sent you a pm
[11:56] <dekito> hi
[11:56] <brenner> heh. nice mayor quimby
[11:56] <dekito> how can i redo my xorg using cmd line ?
[11:57] <brenner> ubotu: tell dekito about xorg
[11:57] <liable> !drxx dekito
[11:57] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable
[11:57] <liable> meh
[11:57] <brenner> drxx? :)
[11:57] <shukhrat> is possible to install iceWM to my Ubuntu ?
[11:58] <barktpolar> Greetings Ubuntu Users
[11:58] <brenner> shukhrat: yep. it's in universe
[11:58] <razorclaw> icewm - wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager
[11:58] <__Little_Wing> does ubuntu ppc support fluxbox??
[11:58] <razorclaw> yes it's there
[11:58] <ompaul> shukhrat, it is >>sudo apt-get install icewm<<  make sure you have the universe reps installed
[11:59] <ompaul> s/reps/repos
[11:59] <razorclaw> shukhrat, if you haven't edit your /etc/apt/sources.list uncomment universe then run apt-get update
[12:00] <shukhrat> ok...
[12:00] <shukhrat> let me try
[12:00] <brenner> __Little_Wing: yep.  they use the same repos don't they?
[12:00] <brenner> as i386 i mean
[12:00] <__Little_Wing> ok
[12:00] <razorclaw> shukhrat, do a 'apt-cache search icewm' just to be sure u have it
[12:01] <brenner> razorclaw: it was my favourite DE on my p200
[12:01] <razorclaw> brenner, yeah nice de. Would run it if i wasn't stuck on SuSE now
[12:02] <shukhrat> razorclaw: you was right i have it
[12:02] <stoned> I just installed dapper xfce4.3svn and some gnome 2.14 apps.  It is absolutely beautiful
[12:02] <stoned> wow
[12:02] <shukhrat> razorclaw: how to install
[12:02] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:02] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:02] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:02] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software. Release date is June 1 - http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq. /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[12:02] <razorclaw> shukhrat, apt-get install icewm
[12:03] <shukhrat> razorclaw: Thanks
[12:03] <razorclaw> shukhrat, sorry -> sudo apt-get install icewm
[12:03] <razorclaw> shukhrat, np
[12:03] <barktpolar> Anyone know what version of GIMP is included in 5.10?
[12:03] <chemaja> stoned: are you sure its not just because you are... you know... stoned?
[12:03] <chemaja> stoned: ;-)
[12:04] <chemaja> doh, he already left :-(
[12:04] <brenner> lol
[12:04] <brenner> i hate when that happens
[12:05] <razorclaw> barktpolar, 2.2 i think
[12:05] <barktpolar> 2.2.9?
[12:05] <razorclaw> barktpolar, 2.2.8
[12:05] <barktpolar> Oh, two versions down
[12:05] <Toki_Masa> I don't get how to setup wireless networking in Ubuntu. I have my WEP key and SSID, but it asks for an ESSID and the key to be inputted in ASCII or Hex. Is an ESSID the same as an SSID? And what kind of key do I have, ASCII or Hexadecimal?
[12:07] <razorclaw> how do i find out my ubuntu version ?
[12:07] <barktpolar> razorclaw, check your disc
[12:07] <Frogzoo> Toki_Masa: 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid ###'
[12:07] <razorclaw> barktpolar, let's say i installed it and i cannot remember which disc i used
[12:07] <barktpolar> Sorry :( NVM Then
[12:07] <Toki_Masa> Frogzoo: That doesn't help me.
[12:07] <Frogzoo> razorclaw: cat /etc/issue
[12:08] <Toki_Masa> I don't know what essid is or what ### is.
[12:08] <razorclaw> Frogzoo, thanks
[12:08] <Toki_Masa> Nor where I go to enter that command.
[12:12] <IzeyJr> is there any software I can use to open .rar fies?
[12:12] <rob> unrar
[12:13] <IzeyJr> for linux I should of said
[12:13] <rob> yes, unrar
[12:13] <IzeyJr> okies thanks
[12:14] <Toki_Masa> Also...what's that Linux clone of Matlab called? It begins with an O...
[12:14] <brenner> octave?
[12:15] <shukhrat> razorclaw: are you here ?
[12:15] <dragoon> Toki_Masa: the matlab linux ver? :p
[12:15] <razorclaw> shukhrat, yes
[12:15] <razorclaw> shukhrat, sup ?
[12:15] <th0rndike> hi ppla
[12:15] <th0rndike> ppl*
[12:15] <dragoon> hi
[12:15] <shukhrat> razorclaw: inow i install should i logout ? to take efect ?
[12:16] <shukhrat> razorclaw: now (iceWM) i install should i logout ? to take efect ?
[12:16] <razorclaw> yeah logout and then see if u can pick it
[12:16] <razorclaw> dunno if ubuntu does that for you or not
[12:16] <brenner> it should add itself to the sessions menu
[12:17] <dragoon> woo dapper running
[12:17] <Toki_Masa> dragoon: No, it's free. And I think it's octave. Thanks brenner.
[12:18] <Toki_Masa> What is an apt-cache?
[12:18] <brenner> stores package descriptions
[12:19] <brenner> equivalent would be synaptic's search
[12:19] <qgil> hi there, upgrading the latest packages yesterday in Dapper I have no sound now - There was a  kernel image upgrade, maybe something in the alsa modules went wrong?
[12:19] <qgil> I'd like to know to whuich package do you recommend to file a bug in launchpad
[12:20] <Toki_Masa> Oh. Cool.
[12:20] <Toki_Masa> But I cam
[12:20] <qgil> (I've downloaded the LiveCD Flight 5 and sounds works, so it's definitely something related to yesterday's upgrade)
[12:20] <Frogzoo> qgil: try #ubuntu+1
[12:20] <Seveas> qgil, if you suspect the kernel: linux-source-2.6.15
[12:20] <Toki_Masa> But I can't use that stuff until I get my wireless network working.
[12:20] <qgil> ok, thanks, I'll try first ubuntu+1
[12:24] <lawine> help in what way?
[12:24] <th0rndike> Auckland_Pig need temporary mounting or add to fstab?
[12:25] <Auckland_Pig> th0rndike: first temporary.. if it works then i'll add to fstab
[12:25] <Auckland_Pig> i did mount... but it tells me... that i'm trying to mount a partition
[12:25] <lawine> aren't the fat32 disks detected automagically?
[12:25] <th0rndike> Auckland_Pig,  it should work both ways :p
[12:26] <lawine> mkdir /mnt/tmp
[12:26] <michelle_> Hello
[12:26] <dash-> hello
[12:26] <Auckland_Pig> lawine: yes... after that?
[12:26] <michelle_> Is it hard to setup linux to be able to share files between systems on a network?
[12:27] <kingspawn> !nfs
[12:27] <ubotu> nfs is probably see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:27] <kingspawn> michelle: for you
[12:27] <Frogzoo> michelle_: pretty straightforward - use samba or nfs
[12:27] <michelle_> Okay, thank you both :)
[12:27] <th0rndike> lol
[12:27] <lawine> mount /dev/hdxy /mnt/tmp -t vfat
[12:28] <Auckland_Pig> the fat32 disk name is /dev/hdb . so should i do "mount /dev/hdb /mnt/tmp -t vfat"
[12:28] <michelle_> oh and also
[12:28] <kingspawn> Auckland_Pig, you have to get the partition number, hdbx
[12:28] <lawine> Auckland_Pig: you just need to enter the correct numbers and partition for x and y
[12:29] <michelle_> how hard is it to make it so I can log into one system from another? like to use the shell from another computer
[12:29] <Frogzoo> michelle_: ssh
[12:29] <kingspawn> !ssh
[12:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[12:29] <lawine> Auckland_Pig: so /dev/hdb1 or /hdb2
[12:29] <kingspawn> :)
[12:29] <Auckland_Pig> lawine: kingspawn : i see hdb1 and hdb5
[12:29] <michelle_> Thank you once again :)
[12:29] <Auckland_Pig> ok i'll try both
[12:29] <th0rndike> lol
[12:29] <th0rndike> should be 1
[12:29] <michelle_> oh and
[12:30] <michelle_> what's the difference between kedbuntu and ubuntu?
[12:30] <Matthewv> u mean kubuntu and ubuntu???
[12:30] <Frogzoo> michelle_: kubuntu = kde, ubunut = gnome, edubuntu? dunno
[12:30] <michelle_> edubuntu!
[12:30] <Matthewv> or edubuntu and ubuntu
[12:30] <michelle_> that's it
[12:30] <ReWT_AxS> do i need the contents of the tmp folder?
[12:31] <lawine> Auckland_Pig: 1 is the first primary partition and 5 is (i believe) the first extended partition
[12:31] <michelle_> When I setup this system with my Breezy Ubuntu install cd, it updated itsself and automatically switch to edbuntu
[12:31] <Matthewv> edubuntu is designed for educational places.. eg schools and includes tools for that
[12:31] <Auckland_Pig> :)
[12:31] <lawine> (or whatever that is called)
[12:31] <michelle_> yet, that same cd installed regular ubuntu on my main system
[12:31] <michelle_> lol
[12:31] <Matthewv> ubuntu is for a desktop user..
[12:31] <th0rndike> hahaha
[12:31] <ReWT_AxS> so you dont want edubuntu?
[12:31] <michelle_> doesn't matter, this system is for my fiance
[12:31] <kingspawn> ReWT_AxS, only temporarily :)
[12:31] <kingspawn> ReWT_AxS, there is a default script that erases your tmp when you reboot
[12:32] <michelle_> she hated windows, wanted me to put linux on her system too
[12:32] <michelle_> lol
[12:32] <ReWT_AxS> oh, okay
[12:32] <kingspawn> ReWT_AxS, i learned this the very hard way.
[12:32] <th0rndike> lol poor gal
[12:32] <michelle_> lol yeah
[12:32] <ReWT_AxS> lol
[12:32] <michelle_> I'm trying to get them to work right together and such
[12:32] <michelle_> anywho, thank you all for the help :)
[12:32] <dragoon> whats the kernel source package in dapper
[12:33] <terabyte> hey!
[12:33] <terabyte> can anyone help me??
[12:33] <th0rndike> terabyte,  juz ask, someone will
[12:33] <ReWT_AxS> With?
[12:33] <terabyte> ok
[12:33] <terabyte> erm.... i have a problem installing ubuntu
[12:34] <ReWT_AxS> Be specific. :)
[12:34] <th0rndike> VERY specific :p
[12:34] <Frogzoo> !help,me
[12:34] <terabyte> ok
[12:34] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[12:34] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[12:34] <terabyte> i have installed it
[12:34] <terabyte> then
[12:34] <usuario> usuario
[12:34] <terabyte> when it starts up
[12:34] <Frogzoo> !enter
[12:34] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:34] <terabyte> it freezes
[12:34] <dragoon> 
[12:34] <ReWT_AxS> System specs? Where does it freeze?
[12:34] <th0rndike> exactly where?
[12:35] <ompaul> !ask
[12:35] <ompaul> !+ask
[12:35] <ubotu> it has been said that ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[12:35] <terabyte> erm... loading hotplug subsytem
[12:35] <terabyte> its stops there
[12:35] <ReWT_AxS> HAveyou let it sit fr a minute or two?
[12:35] <ReWT_AxS> Sometimes mine is laggy?
[12:35] <ompaul> chemaja, sent to user with /msg ubotu tell Other about ask :-)
[12:35] <terabyte> -hahaha.... sitting for hours
[12:35] <th0rndike> awful
[12:35] <terabyte> tsk..
[12:35] <th0rndike> i suggest reinstall :p
[12:35] <ReWT_AxS> me too :P
[12:36] <terabyte> i tried that many times
[12:36] <chemaja> ompaul: thank you; my request however, still stands :-D
[12:36] <terabyte> ;-p
[12:36] <matko> you write that fast i even cant read it :D
[12:36] <jellyware>  /join ubuntu-au
[12:36] <debshine> terabyte, what kind of computer? more details
[12:36] <terabyte> ok
[12:36] <terabyte> i have a amd k2 400mhz processor
[12:36] <ReWT_AxS> Well i'm off...finally got my system running fine again, switched everything from brown to blue even my us-screen :)
[12:36] <brenner> chemaja: it's my experience that most newbies don't read the topic anyway unfortunately
[12:37] <terabyte> an aladdin motherboard
[12:37] <terabyte> kinda old
[12:37] <terabyte> =p
[12:37] <terabyte> and 192mb memory
[12:37] <ReWT_AxS> terabyte, try not to use the enter button so much...We're patient. :)
[12:37] <terabyte> oops.... ok soory
[12:37] <ReWT_AxS> It's okay. :)
[12:38] <ReWT_AxS> But good luck with your hotplug stuff. I'd suggest taking a look in the forums. Might find someone with the same problem who has a solution?
[12:38] <Frogzoo> terabyte: try adding this boot option in grub 'acpi=off'
[12:38] <terabyte> uhuh....
[12:38] <th0rndike> omg yeh thats it
[12:38] <terabyte> acpi=off
[12:38] <debshine> terabyte, try booting with some options like and 'noapic'
[12:39] <debshine> terabyte, does the live cd work?
[12:39] <terabyte> nope...
[12:39] <brenner> ReWT_AxS: do you have the link for that customising breezy/eye candy site?  it had "docs" in the url
[12:39] <debshine> does any live cd work?
[12:39] <terabyte> still stops at hotplug
[12:39] <pramirez> ola
[12:39] <th0rndike> we got a major problem here hehehe
[12:39] <pramirez> ola a todos
[12:40] <th0rndike> pramirez,  hola
[12:40] <pramirez> ola como te llamos
[12:40] <Frogzoo> terabyte: if that doesn't help, try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z
[12:40] <th0rndike> no me digas q viniste a este canal a conocer gente?
[12:40] <pramirez> de donde ere
[12:40] <terabyte> ok
[12:41] <brenner> !es
[12:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:41] <pramirez> no no vengo eso si es ami
[12:41] <th0rndike> espero que hayas leido :p
[12:41] <ReWT_AxS> brenner, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/EyeCandyBreezy
[12:41] <topyli> brenner http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BreezyCust
[12:42] <topyli> hehe
[12:42] <brenner> cheers
[12:42] <ReWT_AxS> indeed
[12:42] <ReWT_AxS> topyli
[12:42] <th0rndike> someone feels like doing my homework for me?
[12:42] <ReWT_AxS> So any idea as to why my system would crashed by switching alt+f buttons?
[12:42] <th0rndike> its juz some concurrent programming in c
[12:42] <th0rndike> :)
[12:42] <topyli> th0rndike: yeah, you can do my job then :)
[12:42] <j2daosh> ok dumb perl question. how do i set a variable as 'grep $filename /dir/file'
[12:43] <kingspawn> th0rndike, just say your program didn't return 0 when they ask you about it. its like saying the dog ate your homework
[12:43] <ReWT_AxS> i am using the ati with vesa drivers...the ati drivers would crash after coming out of screen saver, and the fglrx driver i couldnt get to work
[12:43] <th0rndike> lol i cant... without those-> no exam
[12:44] <kingspawn> th0rndike, then get to it ;)
[12:44] <terabyte> ok.. iLL be back later and test what all of yeh recommended
[12:45] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[12:45] <th0rndike> topyli,  whats your job?
[12:45] <Paedrigh> Firestarter. I want it to start up when I log in, but it won't do that since it can only be started by root-user. Is there a way to circumvent this?
[12:45] <topyli> oh, i just sweep the floors at the local morgue
[12:45] <brenner> ReWT_AxS: what was wrong w/ the ati drivers
[12:45] <topyli> th0rndike: ^^
[12:45] <th0rndike> lol i'd rather do the program. thx anyway :p
[12:46] <topyli> th0rndike: damn. happens every time
[12:46] <kingspawn> topyli, sounds like a nice job, actually
[12:46] <th0rndike> hahaha
[12:46] <ReWT_AxS> they would crash coming out of the screen saver all the time
[12:47] <topyli> kingspawn: i was lying, but actually it could be nice, relaxed, leave-me-alone kind of job
[12:47] <th0rndike> unless u can see dead people
[12:47] <topyli> kingspawn: unless the place is very busy and you get work-sweat which i hate
[12:47] <kingspawn> topyli, heh, yeah, that was what i was thinking. if it payed reasonably, i'd do it
[12:48] <letmeoffthebus> Hey all, i have a quick question. Ballpark figure - how much disk space does a typicl Ubuntu install take up? < 1GB?
[12:48] <brenner> ReWT_AxS: sorry, is that the repos driver or the ati.com driver?
[12:48] <th0rndike> its like 2?
[12:48] <th0rndike> i think
[12:48] <Frogzoo> letmeoffthebus: for typical use - say 20-60gig
[12:49] <Seveas> letmeoffthebus, right after install: around 1.5 GB, during install you may need more
[12:49] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno? the ati one is the one that came with the cd lol i never installed anymore ati drivers
[12:49] <Seveas> letmeoffthebus, around 5GB total space is a nice minimal system on which you can still install things
[12:49] <letmeoffthebus> Cheers dudes
[12:50] <letmeoffthebus> thats just what i needed to know
[12:51] <brenner> ReWT_AxS: ok.  'ati' is the kernel driver.  'fglrx' can be either the one provided in the repos (xorg-driver-fglrx) or you can use the proprietary one off ati.com
[12:51] <brenner> ubotu: tell ReWT_AxS about ati
[12:51] <ReWT_AxS> it's a radeon xpress 200m
[12:51] <ReWT_AxS> i did this    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378&highlight=fglrx+breezy
[12:51] <brenner> i have the exact same card :)
[12:52] <ReWT_AxS> but it didnt work
[12:52] <Frogzoo> ReWT_AxS: your vid card won't run fglrx
[12:52] <ReWT_AxS> o
[12:52] <ReWT_AxS> so what should i use?
[12:52] <Frogzoo> ReWT_AxS: needs m300 iirc
[12:52] <Frogzoo> ReWT_AxS: ati's your only hope
[12:52] <shambling> hey
[12:52] <ReWT_AxS> im using vesa right now?
[12:52] <lasindi> If I have more than one sound card, where can I configure which one to use?
[12:53] <IdaNimrod> !dapper
[12:53] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:53] <brenner> Frogzoo: you talking bout the proprietary or kernel driver?
[12:53] <MistaED> does that fglrx driver work better for firegl cards or something? i'm just trying to comprehend why they suck so much for radeon cards =/
[12:53] <neo911> when i start firefox i used to have a default profile but now when i start it i get a message that it is being used, how do i fix this? thanks!
[12:53] <ReWT_AxS> hit make default
[12:54] <pjv> what's a good pdf editor, i have a pdf file here with graphical logos and kpdf kword just doesn't seem to do the job well, any suggestions?
[12:54] <shambling> am runing updated breezy-i386 on an AMD64 pc, have dapper AMD64 cd, can/howto upgrade to dapper?
[12:54] <YukiCuss> neo911, close all open firefoxes. if none are open, remove the lock file
[12:54] <ReWT_AxS> oops misread question
[12:54] <brenner> ReWT_AxS: use the wiki link and follow the "ati.com drivers" section
[12:54] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[12:54] <redguy> pjv: you might try gimp, or inkscape perhaps
[12:54] <ReWT_AxS> !ati
[12:54] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:54] <ompaul> lasindi, to use onboard remove the pci one, to use pci one disable other in bios O/S looks after the rest
[12:55] <YukiCuss> neo911, lock file is at ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock
[12:55] <lasindi> ompaul: isn't there a way to do this through software?
[12:55] <Frogzoo> !tell brenner about fglrx
[12:55] <brenner> MistaED: ati support sucks in general apparently
[12:55] <Frogzoo> !tell ReWT_AxS about fglrx
[12:55] <ompaul> lasindi, there would be but I don't know it
[12:55] <slimz> anyone feel like helping me set my refresh rate? i tried the guide with modeline, but after i restart X im locked to 640x480
[12:55] <ReWT_AxS> frogzoo its not compatible
[12:55] <Frogzoo> brenner: ReWT_AxS the docs seem to suggest that x200 will run fglrx after all, but use the fglrx from the seveas_ repo
[12:56] <lasindi> Does anyone else know how to configure Ubuntu to use a specific sound card on a system with multiple sound cards?
[12:56] <ReWT_AxS> The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higher, or it is in the X series (e.g. X300), or it has TV-Out capability. The 'fglrx' driver does not support cards earlier than the 8500.
[12:56] <pjv> redir: ty
[12:56] <kingspawn> lasindi, look for crimsun when he's in here, he's got the lowdown on sound
[12:56] <pjv> redguy: ty
[12:57] <brenner> ubotu: tell slimz about fixres
[12:57] <Frogzoo> ReWT_AxS: brenner -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:57] <lasindi> kingspawn: when is he usually on?
[12:57] <shambling> am runing updated breezy-i386 on an AMD64 pc, have dapper AMD64 cd, can/howto upgrade to dapper?
[12:57] <ReWT_AxS> those steps are for hoary or later
[12:57] <ReWT_AxS> will they still work in breezy
[12:57] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[12:57] <shambling> *without removing breezy8
[12:58] <Frogzoo> !upgrade
[12:58] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[12:58] <shambling> thanks
[12:58] <redguy> shambling: in what way would it be an upgrade?
[12:58] <brenner> ReWT_AxS: that forum link used ubuntu's fglrx driver.  you need to use the one off ati.com (or do it through Seveas' repos as Frogzoo keeps saying)
[12:58] <redguy> shambling: it would be just another install if you don't want to remove breezy
[12:59] <ReWT_AxS> how do i do it through seveas repos?
[12:59] <linuxboyfriend> plz help me http://pastebin.com/615928
[12:59] <ompaul> lasindi,  he tends to be on New York time if he is not travelling
[12:59] <Frogzoo> ReWT_AxS: please read the links ^
[01:00] <redguy> ReWT_AxS:  -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI perhaps ?
[01:00] <basti__> what does chmod +s ?
[01:00] <slimz> ahh im screwed, i tried searching google for my monitors specs but i couldnt find any information, my monitor is too old, its an iiyama mf-5621
[01:00] <shambling> redguy, the kernal in dapper suits my music needs better, am not confident enough to compile a custom kernal yet, also the drivers seem faster.
[01:01] <ReWT_AxS> okay how do i backup my current settings?
[01:01] <ReWT_AxS> nvm i got it
[01:01] <ReWT_AxS> im off to do this stuff
[01:01] <ReWT_AxS> later mate
[01:01] <kingspawn> lasindi, dont know, but i see his away message says that its night where he is now, so probably like now + 6-8 hours? wildly guessing here.
[01:01] <redguy> shambling: so all you want is the new kernel from dapper?
[01:01] <brenner> slimz: does that range probe work?
[01:01] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, thanks for all your help with my gdm
[01:01] <slimz> brenner, no
[01:02] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: now worky?
[01:02] <Frogzoo> basti__: it sets the 'suid' bit - when someone runs that binary, they receive the effective user rights of whoever owns the binary - sometimes this is used to give people effective root permission
[01:02] <slimz> brenner : i get no outpiut
[01:02] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: great
[01:02] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: hi
[01:02] <ReWT_AxS> :)
[01:02] <ReWT_AxS> works just fine
[01:02] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: can you help me about http://pastebin.com/615928
[01:02] <shambling> redguy, that I wanted to keep the programs from breezy that dapper may not have
[01:02] <basti__> thank your for that Frogzoo
[01:02] <brenner> slimz: just run the xorg reconfigure.  when prompted for monitor config, choose the second option (to choose the max res)
[01:02] <shambling> that and I wanted...*
[01:03] <lasindi> kingspawn: okay thanks.
[01:03] <paulo> hi there
[01:03] <paulo> any one to talk
[01:03] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: hi, can you help me http://pastebin.com/615928
[01:03] <YukiCuss> paulo, there are a few here.
[01:03] <slimz> brenner : i have the resolutions set up correctly, im in 1280x1024, just i cant get out of 60hz refresh rate, and my monitor supports 75hz at this resolution
[01:03] <th0rndike> like 655
[01:03] <nem-> how to unblock users on gaim?
[01:04] <shambling> redguy, or should i just install dapper then add the breezy dvd to repos' list?
[01:04] <YukiCuss> nem-, Actions menu -> Privacy
[01:04] <nem-> ok thanks
[01:04] <YukiCuss> nem-, on the contact list, that is.
[01:04] <redguy> paulo: this is a support channel, for chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:04] <paulo> i have ubunto, how to put PICO?
[01:04] <brenner> slimz: did you do the reconfig?
[01:04] <paulo> n
[01:04] <slimz> brenner : no ill try now
[01:04] <kingspawn> paulo: probably sudo apt-get install pico
[01:04] <ReWT_AxS> is there anyway to make gaim thinner than what it stops me from thinning it as?
[01:04] <Seveas> paulo, try nano
[01:04] <brenner> paulo: it already has pico
[01:05] <Seveas> pico is not free, nano is (and installed by default)
[01:05] <kingspawn> aha
[01:05] <paulo> tanks
[01:05] <paulo> ok
[01:05] <redguy> shambling: well, If you ask my opinion isntalling just some packages from breezy might break your system more severely than just upgrading to Dapper. If you have enought diskspace why not install Dapper alongside with Breezy?
[01:05] <redguy> erm, s/some packages from breezy/some packages from dapper/
[01:05] <brenner> pico's not free? why's it in the default install then?
[01:06] <redguy> brenner: nano is
[01:06] <_jason> brenner: it's just a symlink to nano
[01:06] <shambling> redguy, aye, why not... would be interesting for testing, thanks i'll just do that.
[01:06] <theine> shambling: or set up Dapper in a chroot environment
[01:06] <brenner> _jason: lol, so it is
[01:06] <redguy> brenner: ls -l `which pico`
[01:06] <shambling> redguy chroot enviroment?
[01:07] <brenner> redguy: yeah, i just ran pico and saw the titlebar
[01:07] <redguy> shambling: it was theine who said chroot... ask him about it.. :-)
[01:07] <redguy> !chroot
[01:07] <ubotu> I guess chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:08] <th0rndike> aight guys i go eat
[01:08] <th0rndike> l8rz
[01:08] <shambling> redguy, cheers, i'll readup
[01:08] <redguy> shambling: np
[01:08] <shambling> theine, ta as well
[01:09] <theine> shambling: you're welcome
[01:09] <slimz> brenner : i dont know my monitors horizontal sync range
[01:10] <brenner> slimz: there should be an option to choose the max. res (i think it's in the middle)
[01:10] <brenner> slimz: hang on.  i'l run it now
[01:12] <brenner> slimz: there's a dialog near the monitor config part.  it gives you 3 options.  choose "medium"
[01:12] <slimz> brenner :  1280x1024@75hz isnt there :(
[01:12] <slimz> brenner : in the medium setting
[01:12] <brenner> and you're sure the monitor is capable of it?
[01:12] <slimz> yeah 100%
[01:12] <slimz> i use that in windows
[01:13] <shambling> ubotu how to backup kernal
[01:13] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shambling
[01:13] <mathieu> it's kernil!
[01:13] <slimz> brenner, 1600x1200@75hz is there
[01:13] <AshyIsMe> how do i get my usbhd to automount and create an icon on the desktop in dapper?
[01:14] <brenner> slimz: well, it says choose the "best".  so go the highest you can
[01:14] <AshyIsMe> i have set it to do that is System>Preferences>removable drives and media but it still doesnt do it
[01:14] <slimz> i chose 1600x1200@60hz
[01:14] <slimz> lemme try that
[01:14] <slimz> brb
[01:14] <AshyIsMe> should i remove the entry for it in fstab?
[01:15] <lunari> Could someone help me with setting up file sharing between computers running ubuntu?
[01:15] <albacker> guys how can i make gnome so when im moving a window, as soon that its near to another one [side to side]  it stops.. its like positioning windows all over the desktop easily.. what is this kinda of function called ?
[01:15] <brenner> AshyIsMe: fyi: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[01:16] <AshyIsMe> brenner: thanks
[01:16] <brenner> albacker: it's in dapper apparently
[01:16] <albacker> brenner, it should be in breezy too !
[01:16] <kingspawn> !nfs
[01:16] <ubotu> well, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:16] <albacker> Fluxbox has it !
[01:16] <kingspawn> lunari^^
[01:17] <lunari> kingspawn: Yeah, I tried that and I can't get it to work
[01:17] <albacker> its not an ubuntu function, but gnome one ! so no matter if you use ubuntu.. fedora.. if you use gnome you should have it !
[01:17] <AshyIsMe> albacker: it's called snap-to or something like that
[01:18] <brenner> albacker: exactly.  it's implemented in gnome 2.14 or whatever dapper is going to ship with iirc
[01:18] <albacker> AshyIsMe, thanks, but you're not sure about it's name !?! are you ?
[01:18] <albacker> snap to grid
[01:18] <brenner> 2.12 doesn't have it
[01:18] <brenner> at least afaik
[01:18] <lunari> hmm, what's this about updating my routers firmware?
[01:18] <lunari> I just read that, I have a netgear lol
[01:18] <albacker> i have 2.12 ! i should have it !
[01:19] <_jason> lunari: there is an exploit that will cause you to get disconnected if I just type something to you
[01:19] <brenner> albacker: did you read my 2nd last sentence? :)
[01:19] <shambling> anyone here managed to get their NFORCE4 onboard GeForce6100 to fully work? (can install driver, x server crashes on reboot, have tryed to reconfigure x server without joy- though i dont know what options it would need)
[01:19] <lunari> _jason ah okay
[01:19] <albacker> at least afaik ? what afaik : brenner ?
[01:19] <`mrz> I've just fetched ubuntu 5.10, and the default sources.list keeps failing on a few servers. is this normal?
[01:20] <brenner> albacker: as far as i know
[01:20] <albacker> brenner, there should be a way to enable it though, all we have to do is search :)
[01:21] <dmizer> how to i regain the file menu bar after i've removed it from the profile?
[01:21] <andrea_> is there something similar to "Device Manager" in ubuntu?
[01:21] <brenner> `mrz: shouldn't be.  you can always use the official one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[01:22] <brenner> andrea_: sys >admin >device mgr? :)
[01:22] <`mrz> brenner, I have the offical one. look at the output here: http://pastebin.com/615951
[01:22] <shambling> andrea, System-Admin-Device Manager
[01:22] <andrea_> geez
[01:22] <andrea_> my eyes just couldnt see it
[01:22] <GnarusLeo> !secure digital
[01:22] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GnarusLeo
[01:22] <andrea_> :)
[01:22] <dgibb> I'm trying to upgrade to dapper, and apt is complaining. I know! I know! dapper isn't technically released yet, but I really needed a module not available in breezy, so give me a break, yeah?
[01:22] <shambling> ;D
[01:22] <andrea_> thanks
[01:22] <GnarusLeo> Are there supported drivers for secure digital slots on laptops?
[01:23] <dgibb> Is there a channel where I can air apt's complaints?
[01:23] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[01:23] <GnarusLeo> hehehe
[01:23] <`mrz> dgibb, debian. ubuntu is based on debian :)
[01:23] <dgibb> mrz: sorry, don't follow your point?
[01:23] <brenner> `mrz: it's the nl mirror though.  maybe it's down
[01:24] <brenner> dgibb: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[01:24] <`mrz> brenner, got exactly the same issue on german, denmark, and us servers. but that offical sources.list seemed to work better.
[01:24] <dgibb> mrz: apt has trouble resolving dependancy problems with dapper
[01:24] <brenner> `mrz: the #debian folk would slaughter him :)
[01:24] <dgibb> mrz: and I in turn, need your help ;-)
[01:24] <andrea_> my problem is i'm using a Sennheiser USB headset, and device manager is viewing it ok...but i'm not getting any sound...
[01:25] <DarthShrine> How can I create an ISO file from a directory full of files?
[01:25] <`mrz> dgibb, what application are you trying to install?
[01:25] <dragoon> DarthShrine: mkisofs
[01:25] <`mrz> brenner, hey. that offical one worked AWESOME
[01:25] <DarthShrine> dragoon, Thanks
[01:25] <dgibb> mrz: tomcat and libapache-mod-jk
[01:25] <brenner> `mrz: mirror issue then
[01:26] <`mrz> brenner, hope so. I really had an offical one directly from installation.
[01:26] <`mrz> dgibb, hmm.. try only using the offical repos
[01:26] <dgibb> mrz: I am ;)
[01:27] <dgibb> mrz: is there a paste channel I can use?
[01:27] <brenner> dgibb: like i said, #ubuntu+1 is probably better for  dapper issues
[01:27] <dgibb> ok
[01:28] <brenner> `mrz: easy now :)
[01:28] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, You still here?
[01:29] <dgibb> thanks brenner, mrz
[01:30] <brenner> anyway, looks like i killed slimz's box :-/
[01:30] <shambling> Why is ubuntu able to mount some of my many partitions but not others, then when reboot; able to mount others but not all, then when login as root, able to mount all, or somtimes none but root-file-system?
[01:32] <shambling> it seems to change with the wind
[01:34] <brenner> certainly sounds weird.  how'd you mount them in the 1st place?
[01:34] <shambling> "disks" app in admin
[01:34] <shambling> dont know term commad
[01:34] <andrea_> how can i select between different sound device
[01:35] <andrea_> i dont want to use my soundcard, but my usb headset
[01:35] <maning> Hi! Any major problem in dist-upgrade from breezy to badger?  I'm downloading right now.
[01:35] <cronos> hol<
[01:35] <Espaxus> olaaaaaaaaa
[01:35] <brenner> i didn't know you could mount them that way
[01:35] <apokryphos> maning: breezy *is* the breezy badger.
[01:36] <cronos> y en espaol
[01:36] <shambling> yeah "enable" button
[01:36] <maning> sorry i mean dapper
[01:36] <brenner> shambling: 1st step is to look at /etc/fstab
[01:36] <apokryphos> maning: if you mean dapper -- well, I'd say it was reasonably stable at the moment. #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion.
[01:36] <apokryphos> !es
[01:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:36] <Espaxus> fuck the all !!!!!
[01:36] <Espaxus> Cronos stupid !
[01:36] <cronos>  focking espaxus
[01:36] <cronos> fuck you
[01:37] <maning> thanks! will be out in a minute after dapper download
[01:38] <shambling> brenner. no such dir in etc
[01:38] <brenner> shambling: fstab is  a file in /etc
[01:38] <brenner> shambling: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:38] <shambling> rgr that
[01:39] <shambling> brenner, # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:39] <shambling> #
[01:39] <shambling> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:39] <shambling> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:39] <shambling> /dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:39] <shambling> /dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:39] <shambling> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:39] <ohgood> lol
[01:40] <brenner> sorry, i should have told him
[01:40] <RolfKaese|x> hmmm
[01:40] <RolfKaese|x> im still here :D
[01:41] <RolfKaese|x> and still working around with testdisk
[01:41] <shambling> back
[01:41] <RolfKaese|x> it looks like no boot sector or anything is damaged
[01:41] <apokryphos> !paste
[01:41] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[01:41] <shambling> apokryphos,rgr thatsry
[01:42] <ciplogic> I want to disable (for administrative purposes) automatically download from http, even I have them in the sources. Any idea how to do that?
[01:42] <RolfKaese|x> rather than that, it really looks like the file system is damaged, it isnt "fully" NTFS anymore
[01:42] <RolfKaese|x> a small amount of sectors is ext
[01:42] <RolfKaese|x> i dunno why though
[01:42] <maning> after 1.5 hours i  was able to fetch  509 mb of dapper debs.  how long will it take me to install them? I need to catch the train. ASAP.
[01:42] <RolfKaese|x> also the program cant find any broken partitions
[01:42] <feg> !mplayer
[01:42] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:43] <brenner> shambling: pastebin it this time.  anyway, i gtg.  i'm sure someone can help you w/ that.  btw, mounting/unmounting should be done via the desktop icons or w/ mount/umount commands.  i'm not sure what the disks utility does, but i don't think that's the way you should be doing it
[01:43] <RolfKaese|x> but its still searching for 1h, with deeper algorythms and sh*t :D
[01:43] <ciplogic> I want to disable (for administrative purposes) automatically download or installing from http, even I have them in the sources. Any idea how to do that?
[01:43] <shambling> brenner, okthanks m8
[01:46] <ciplogic> I want to disable (for administrative purposes) automatically download or installing from http, even I have them in the sources. Any idea how to do that?
[01:47] <dv_> ciplogic, so you dont want synaptic, apt-get etc. to download stuff from http?
[01:47] <ciplogic> I want to disable apt-get ability to load from http
[01:47] <dv_> then you might want to have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <ciplogic> it should use only cdrom
[01:47] <ciplogic> or local debs
[01:48] <ciplogic> is from my knowledge from apt.conf
[01:48] <dv_> comment out the http sources in sources.list, and there you go
[01:48] <dv_> (perform apt-get update afterwards)
[01:49] <ciplogic> I want to disable the ability of downloading via http... not remove the source
[01:49] <ciplogic> maybe else-time I will need them
[01:49] <dv_> oh, i dunno how to do this
[01:49] <dv_> sorry
[01:49] <ciplogic> no problem
[01:49] <feg> i have a black screen for 1 second every time i play a video using mozilla-mplayer. anyone with the same problem?
[01:49] <dv_> try asking in #debiaan
[01:49] <dv_> #debian that is
[01:50] <ohgood> feg: yep. every single time.
[01:51] <ohgood> feg: i assumed it was the 'buffgering' stage, and it never realy bothered me.
[01:51] <kent> ciplogic: open /etc/apt/sources.list and put a comment "#" before every http://  line and run apt-get update,  then you only have local cdrom.
[01:51] <feg> ohgood, umm. i think it is a bit annoying
[01:52] <ciplogic> kent: I know that exist the posibility to disable them
[01:52] <ciplogic> and I should do that for 100 computers :)
[01:52] <ciplogic> (almost, they are 87)
[01:53] <ohgood> feg: if it really bothers you, you could play iwth the cache settings, or try developement versions, but that usually means a few more issues.
[01:53] <ciplogic> the most important, is that some packages shouldn't be upgraded
[01:54] <ciplogic> and that are for stability of the software
[01:54] <_jason> !pinning
[01:54] <ciplogic> and even one user will add manually one link to sources.list, the download should be disabled
[01:54] <ubotu> I heard pinning is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[01:54] <_jason> ciplogic: I think that's what you want? ^
[01:55] <_jason> ciplogic: that will let you pin certain packages so they don't get upgraded
[01:56] <ciplogic> great... I think that is the best solution
[01:56] <kent> ciplogic: if you dont give them sudo-acess they cant upgrade any packages..   :)
[01:56] <ciplogic> only some software should not be update-able
[01:57] <kent> ciplogic: but then,  if they are already installed,  there is no updates unless its security updates,  and should not most people want those?
[01:57] <ciplogic> How can i configure apt-get so it can ignore the ftp/http uris from sources.list when doing and apt-get update?
[01:57] <ciplogic> kent: if will be about security updates they will be done
[01:58] <ciplogic> kent: most important is about conflicting with different versions
[01:58] <ciplogic> kent: it is must to exist one platform (known to be stable)
[01:59] <kent> I dont really understand what you meen there..
[02:00] <ciplogic> I think that a better question is: so i can use apt-get --no-download install foo  !?
[02:00] <ciplogic> that is the question exactly
[02:01] <kent> ciplogic: I dont really understand the problem.  You dont want them to be able to install from http?  but to give them access to install stuff saved locally?  how does that make it more stable och secure?
[02:01] <ciplogic> here is about development platform
[02:02] <ciplogic> We need to do a freeze
[02:02] <kent> hu?
[02:02] <ciplogic> and to not have conflicts with many "platforms"
[02:02] <paolob> Hi guys! What should I install in order to connecto to apache in secure mode (https)?
[02:02] <dgibb> akkk! I still have trouble.
[02:02] <kent> I really dont understand that.  good luck :)
[02:02] <ciplogic> or to have conflicts from different versions (for instance we consider the release 67 which have one platform)
[02:03] <ciplogic> we consider one repository and for one week will be update :)
[02:03] <dgibb> aptitude install linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic doesn't work
[02:03] <kent> ciplogic: release 67? what are you  talking about? :)
[02:03] <ciplogic> I will ask later :)
[02:03] <ciplogic> kent: I talk about developing software in one company I live
[02:03] <ciplogic> And as admin I want to restrict conflicts from versions
[02:04] <ciplogic> (we use ubuntu as development platform)
[02:04] <ciplogic> Even dapper
[02:04] <ciplogic> but we had conflicts of packages as xine, that doesn't work as they should
[02:04] <ciplogic> that's why we need to have some packages in a fixed version to be tested
[02:05] <ciplogic> there is no relevant to know that one issue is reproductible with one version and is not with other
[02:05] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[02:06] <ciplogic> is need to be "repository freeze" once and to ignore without firewall restriction to use local repository
[02:06] <ciplogic> kent: did you get the point?
[02:06] <kent> ciplogic: then if I understand correctly,   why not create a local repositorie with the stuff you develop against and only allow to install from it?  that way every computer has the stuff they need, and every gets the same updates..
[02:06] <ciplogic> yes
[02:06] <ciplogic> somelike that
[02:07] <ciplogic> But I thought that more sure is to restrict apt (to not "control") every user downloads
[02:07] <kent> Like, turn off http:// in sources.list,  create a local repository and add it so sources.list and allow every one to update from it. Im not sure how to create a local repositorie but I dont think its so hard.
[02:09] <kent> ciplogic: you dont need to control every download, just dont add outside repositories. Like, dissallow the ubuntu repositories and only put in your own, and then fill your own with the stuff you need..  and make one for every  platform  - like Dapper etc.  should be possible..
[02:10] <RolfKaese|x> oi i have a small question : how do i turn off the screensaver
[02:11] <RolfKaese|x> :>
[02:11] <ciplogic> Great... I think that will solve all my problems :)
[02:11] <ciplogic> Thank you kent
[02:13] <Hawk|-> HI, how do i reinstall an perl installation?!
[02:13] <kuja> sudo apt-get remove perl && sudo apt-get install perl ?
[02:14] <Hawk|-> mhh ok
[02:14] <dj-fu> apt-get reinstall perl
[02:14] <dj-fu> nm
[02:15] <bon_> how do you restart the sound sever
[02:15] <Hawk|-> thx
[02:15] <kuja> bon_: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-util force-reload
[02:15] <bon_> thx
[02:15] <kuja> err, alsa-utils
[02:16] <C-O-L-T> Hello everybody
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > Hi
[02:16] <Matthewv> hi
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > it seems I can only change resolution to 1400x1050 and 1280x1024 within ubuntu
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > but I configured X to support more resolution
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > how can I tell ubuntu to see those?
[02:17] <kuja> Maybe your card doesn't support those resolutions.
[02:17] <[Wiebel] > kuja: sure it does
[02:17] <kuja> It supports it at that specific depth? Maybe you have to lower your depth?
[02:17] <Frogzoo> !tell [Wiebel]  about fixres
[02:17] <C-O-L-T> <[Wiebel] >: I can not change my video preferences at all. It is 1280 x 1024. It is ok for me. I think it auto configures depending on your hard specs
[02:18] <Frogzoo> !tell C-O-L-T about fixres
[02:18] <snowblink> hi - does anyone have gmail chat working on breezy?
[02:19] <_jason> snowblink: you can use gaim I believe
[02:19] <snowblink> _jason, thanks I am for gtalk. I'm wondering if anyone has the chat feature in their gmail.
[02:19] <iGadget> hi all
[02:19] <C-O-L-T> Anybody has tried Fedora Core 5?
[02:20] <highvoltage> C-O-L-T: i'm sure someone has
[02:20] <_jason> snowblink: I've never actually cahtted with anyone but the features are there
[02:20] <Matthewv> same here
[02:20] <C-O-L-T> highvoltage: I would like to know if it is better than ubuntu? I would like to try. I am just curious
[02:20] <ciplogic> I found the solution! - for who is interested: edit the file /etc/apt.conf and add the lines:
[02:20] <ciplogic> Acquire "";
[02:20] <ciplogic> Acquire::http "";
[02:20] <ciplogic> Acquire::http::timeout "10";
[02:20] <ciplogic> Acquire::ftp "";
[02:20] <ciplogic> Acquire::ftp::timeout "10";
[02:21] <C-O-L-T> highvoltage: I have never tried before
[02:21] <ciplogic> that will remove the other sources than local ones
[02:21] <ReWT_AxS> !ati
[02:21] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:21] <C-O-L-T> ciplogic: romania ?
[02:21] <ciplogic> dap
[02:21] <snowblink> _jason, Matthewv, Hmmm. Are you using the standard FF that came with Breezy?
[02:21] <highvoltage> C-O-L-T: ok. i've tried FC4 a few weeks ago, and it's still just as boring as FC1
[02:21] <C-O-L-T> ciplogic: e bine sa sti ca cineva e din ro
[02:21] <ciplogic> tu din ce oras esti?
[02:21] <_jason> snowblink: ff1.5
[02:21] <ciplogic> eu din Iasi
[02:21] <Seveas> ciplogic, english please
[02:22] <Matthewv> snowblink, no.. i'm using dapper.. :) I've just got the chat there, and it was there in breezy, but I've never used it
[02:22] <ciplogic> Seveas: sorry
[02:22] <C-O-L-T> highvoltage: I see, I have heared a lot about fc 5. They say it is really cool. Just I don't know if it will work on my pc. 1300 MHZ, 256 ram
[02:22] <snowblink> _jason, Matthewv, cheers. I'll keep searching.
[02:22] <C-O-L-T> ciplogic: Location is Gheorgheni, County Harghita. Let's use english because they will ban. Anyway I am a hungarian
[02:22] <ciplogic> C-O-L-T: register to nickserv to talk in romanian using IM
[02:23] <C-O-L-T> ciplogic: English is ok for me
[02:23] <ciplogic> C-O-L-T: anyway is great :)
[02:23] <highvoltage> C-O-L-T: should run fine on your PC
[02:24] <ciplogic> C-O-L-T: stop things that you don't use (like CUPS) and for sure will work great
[02:24] <ciplogic> FC5 will lack on multimedia support
[02:24] <C-O-L-T> highvoltage: Okay than I should give a try to fedora core 5? What I wanted to ask. I really need to install 5 cd of software? Whether fedora has a synaptic?
[02:24] <Matthewv> C-O-L-T, I'm running gnome and ubuntu quite fine on a PIII 800Mhz with 192 MB RAM
[02:24] <ciplogic> here I think you will lose more than Ubuntu
[02:24] <ciplogic> in rest depends of what you need, Ubuntu goes more to desktop, Fedora to Workstation
[02:24] <dv_> anyone already runs gnome 2.14?
[02:24] <ciplogic> Me
[02:24] <imperfect-> Anyone got mythtv working under ubuntu?
[02:25] <dv_> I want to know if gedit 2.14 really has session support (I heard both that it has and that it doesnt)
[02:25] <C-O-L-T> ciplogic: I am writing to you in private,
[02:25] <highvoltage> C-O-L-T: fedora has something similar to synaptic, and you don't need CD5 for installation, perhaps ask on #fedora too?
[02:25] <C-O-L-T> highvoltage: but how many space asks fedora?
[02:26] <dealt> greetings
[02:26] <cycus_zwisus> is fedora worth trying?
[02:26] <C-O-L-T> highvoltage: I asked on #fedora but nobody wants to help me. They are not interested in new users
[02:26] <highvoltage> really? wow.
[02:26] <highvoltage> in that case, screw them!
[02:26] <Matthewv> C-O-L-T, then don't try fedora... simple
[02:27] <bart_> 
[02:27] <bart_> guys, please help me
[02:27] <C-O-L-T> Matthewv: do you know what really catched me? The style of fedora. The colors, the icons :))))
[02:27] <C-O-L-T> bart_: what is it
[02:27] <bart_> i want to change the resolution for my framebuffer
[02:27] <Matthewv> C-O-L-T, better than ubuntu brown???? :)
[02:27] <jetscreamer> same icons are available
[02:28] <cycus_zwisus> i had fedora core 3 on my computer for ...........
[02:28] <cycus_zwisus> quess for how long?
[02:28] <bart_> what values i need to enter for 1280x960?
[02:28] <C-O-L-T> Matthewv: for me better. Can I get that style?
[02:28] <ciplogic> Matthewv: use Tango to have "consistent" look
[02:28] <dealt> hi quick question: how can i disable time synchronization on startup?
[02:28] <cycus_zwisus> guess*
[02:28] <bart_> you know... vga=???
[02:28] <C-O-L-T> bart_: ask here around. I really don't know, sorry
[02:28] <C-O-L-T> cycus_zwisus: for how long
[02:28] <Frogzoo> dealt: rm /etc/rc2/*ntpdate
[02:29] <cycus_zwisus> for half a day, it wasn't a distro for me
[02:29] <ciplogic> look on VESA modes
[02:29] <C-O-L-T> bart_: just ask again and not for help. Write your problem again
[02:29] <bart_> good idea!! wait...
[02:29] <ciplogic> the vesa mode coresponding of that resolution is your VGA mode
[02:29] <Matthewv> C-O-L-T, ciplogic you should be able to find the fedora theme and iconset somewhre on the net... its called bluecurve , if i remember properly
[02:30] <C-O-L-T> Matthewv: cool, let's search in google
[02:30] <ciplogic> Matthewv: I love ubuntu dapper's new icons
[02:30] <cycus_zwisus> bluecurve, you remember properly
[02:30] <YukiCuss> ciplogic, how good is Tango? :)
[02:30] <Matthewv> thanx.. cycus_zwisus
[02:30] <C-O-L-T> ciplogic: I like dapper, too, I installed flight 5 but I deleted it in 3 hours because it crashed always
[02:31] <YukiCuss> C-O-L-T, weird, it's not crashed for me once, installed for some time.
[02:31] <cycus_zwisus> dapper's icons have changed?
[02:31] <ciplogic> C-O-L-T: actual release is a lot more stable
[02:31] <C-O-L-T> YukiCuss: for me crashed
[02:31] <C-O-L-T> ciplogic: I know it is stabel
[02:31] <C-O-L-T> ciplogic: stable
[02:31] <ciplogic> cycus_zwisus: yes... there are new brown icons
[02:31] <YukiCuss> cycus_zwisus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/OfficialTango
[02:31] <ciplogic> cycus_zwisus: but not all are finished
[02:31] <Matthewv> last time i tried FC i gave up because somehow I overwrote mbr.. yeah.. it was my fault... but i was trying to get grub on floppy, and FC had no option for that... :)
[02:31] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, you are aware of 'yum' though, right?
[02:32] <dealt> thanks Frogzoo
[02:32] <Frogzoo> yw dealt
[02:32] <cycus_zwisus> the MOST BEAUTIFUL icons are (imho) nuvola ones (kde)
[02:32] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: I have never used fedora and I don't know how to use yum. Anyway my first linux distro is ubuntu. so I am new in linux. Just I am interested in fedora
[02:33] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, well, fedora has man pages too, so try 'man yum'
[02:33] <cycus_zwisus> i suppose there is nuvola iconset for gnome too
[02:33] <Matthewv> C-O-L-T, and the big reason I won't try fedora.. i will not download 4 cds just for 1 OS...
[02:33] <YukiCuss> cycus_zwisus, particularly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUbuntuIcons
[02:33] <bart_> what values i need to enter for 1280x960?
[02:33] <bart_> you know... vga=???
[02:33] <C-O-L-T> Matthewv: why is fedora 4 cd?
[02:33] <ciplogic> great link :)
[02:34] <cycus_zwisus> Matthewv, i agree with you, what are 4 cds for?
[02:34] <ciplogic> YukiCuss: you are a magnific looker
[02:34] <bart_> at boottime i mean
[02:34] <Matthewv> so much software bundled with it that most users never use.. i suppose
[02:34] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, the full distro with much of the stuff included in the yum repos is 4 cds yes
[02:34] <YukiCuss> ciplogic, thanks. :)
[02:34] <mario> oi
[02:35] <bart_> what values i need to enter for 1280x960 framebuffer support?
[02:35] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: there is not a thing like in ubuntu. You install 1 cd but you get just the useful everyday tools in ti
[02:35] <damian__> hi im using drawer gnome panel applet do make a "start" menu but they open on the left off screen...Any way to change this? The forst one opens fine opens upwards thats the initial menu icon then the submenus whitch are more drawers open off screen
[02:35] <Matthewv> cya all later
[02:35] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, you do get the useful stuff with the other many-cd distros too, just the other cds are provided to save having to download them as you go
[02:35] <cycus_zwisus> is it possible to install fedora from 1 or 2 cds?
[02:36] <YukiCuss> bart_, research tells me you can't get that resolution.
[02:36] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:36] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:36] <ciplogic> mode 0x307  = 1280x1024
[02:36] <ompaul> cycus_zwisus, fedora is offtopic :-)
[02:36] <elkbuntu> oops, i thought this was offtopic.. i would have ushered otherwise...
[02:36] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: I see
[02:36] <C-O-L-T> ompaul: we are just discussing about fedora 5. That is all
[02:37] <bart_> YukiCuss, any higher poss than 1024x768?
[02:37] <YukiCuss> bart_, sure.
[02:37] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, he knows. fedora != ubuntu
[02:37] <bart_> YukiCuss, tell me<!
[02:37] <YukiCuss> 1152x864, 1280x1024 and 1600x1200.
[02:37] <GnarusLeo> Can I get my Secure Digital slot (SD) to work with ubuntu?
[02:37] <YukiCuss> bart_, which one do you want? :)
[02:37] <cycus_zwisus> YukiCuss, new dapper icons are very nice :)
[02:37] <YukiCuss> cycus_zwisus, definitely!
[02:37] <bart_> what are the vga modes?
[02:37] <ciplogic> mode 0x307  = 1280x1024
[02:37] <YukiCuss> bart_, see http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html <-- scroll to section 5.3. make sure to convert from hex to decimal before you enter it into your cmomand line
[02:37] <ompaul> bart_, a way of intereacting with the screen
[02:37] <YukiCuss> command*
[02:38] <bart_> YukiCuss, i know for 1024x768 it's vga=773...
[02:38] <YukiCuss> bart_, there are several different ones, depending on what bitdepth you want.
[02:38] <YukiCuss> bart_, see above page, it will reveal all.
[02:38] <bart_> 24 bit
[02:38] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: I see :D
[02:38] <bart_> YukiCuss, thanks! i check it...
[02:38] <YukiCuss> bart_, actually, 773 is for 8-bit 1024x768.
[02:39] <cycus_zwisus> is kernel 2.6.16 gonna be in dapper?
[02:39] <ompaul> !dapper
[02:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[02:39] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: Can I install gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[02:39] <ompaul> you can find out abut it there ^^
[02:39] <ciplogic> cycus_zwisus: for sure
[02:40] <dealt> hi. where do i define my gateway?
[02:40] <ciplogic> dealt: system->administration->network
[02:40] <paolob> dealt, in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:40] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, if you want to chance your luck with dapper... discussion for which is in #ubuntu+1
[02:40] <dealt> paolob - u mean i'll add it in my eth0 settings?
[02:41] <dealt> paolob - address, netmask..then gateway or gw?
[02:41] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: I have installed dapper but it always crashed. I wait till the final release
[02:41] <dealt> paolob: sorry, newbie on ubuntu :(
[02:42] <C-O-L-T> ompaul: Dapper ships in June???????? That is sure?
[02:42] <paolob> dealt, add          gateway your-ip
[02:42] <paolob>    to iface ethx....
[02:42] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, it is, yes
[02:42] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, visit the tinyurl to understand
[02:42] <C-O-L-T> dealt: we love newbie over here
[02:42] <dealt> gee thanks
[02:43] <ompaul> C-O-L-T, yes
[02:43] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: I have visited it. I wanted gnome 2.14 cause it is faster than 2.12/ Now???
[02:43] <bart_> YukiCuss, i need for a friend of mine with a 17 inch lcd screen a high resolution at 24 bts depth... which one?
[02:43] <C-O-L-T> ompaul: what they want to make? They are developing dapper for a long time
[02:43] <YukiCuss> bart_, for a 17", i'd go no higher than 1280x1024.
[02:44] <bart_> 1280x1024 vga=?
[02:44] <ompaul> C-O-L-T, read the url that comes with that factoid
[02:44] <YukiCuss> bart_, 0x31b, vga=795
[02:44] <bart_> :)
[02:44] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, you really should take this discussion to #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <bart_> YukiCuss: Thansk a lot really!!! rebooting in a few secs...
[02:44] <YukiCuss> I hope to god that works ...
[02:45] <C-O-L-T> ompaul
[02:45] <C-O-L-T> ompaul: I have read, I see now
[02:45] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: ok. But practically in your op. Can I install gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[02:45] <Matthewv> bye all
[02:46] <C-O-L-T> Matthewv: bye
[02:46] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, i'm sure there is a way, but i dont know it
[02:47] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: where to find it? I thought that upgrading to gnome 2.14 will be as easy as upgrading ubuntu
[02:47] <elkbuntu> C-O-L-T, i dont know
[02:48] <C-O-L-T> elkbuntu: I will ask on #gnome. Probably they know it
[02:48] <elkbuntu> that would be logical
[02:49] <elkbuntu> ##gnome too
[02:49] <chrisbudden14> How can I restore my default keymap?  Im EN-UK
[02:50] <Blippe> chrisbudden14, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:50] <Blippe> why ask a question and then log off?
[02:50] <gtwirth> can someone help me please I want to know how to log into a drive as a su
[02:51] <LadyNikon> gtwirth: sudo su
[02:51] <_jason> gtwirth: use 'sudo -i' instead
[02:51] <LadyNikon> log into a drive?
[02:51] <chrisbudden14> When my input is set to United Kingdom, they keys are incorrect
[02:51] <gtwirth> k I did that and it let me in under the konsole I need to get in under the gui and I am lost
[02:51] <apokryphos> C-O-L-T: don't know much about gnome at all, sorry. If there are ubuntu packages, I'd imagine they'd list it on the gnome site.
[02:52] <apokryphos> C-O-L-T: if not, you'll either have to wait till dapper, or compile :)
[02:52] <C-O-L-T> apokryphos: Ok I will look for it.
[02:52] <Blippe> chrisbudden14, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:52] <untouchable> hi all
[02:52] <chrisbudden14> thanks
[02:53] <altwizard> hi, Any who is using the latest Version of Ati drivers , got OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[02:53] <altwizard>  when running fglrxinfo and crappy glxgears?
[02:53] <LadyNikon> gtwirth: you want to run your gui as root?
[02:53] <gtwirth> k how do I do that
[02:53] <untouchable> i need someone who knows better ubuntu, i need to check my source.list it`s here-> http://pastebin.com/616033
[02:53] <Blippe> gtwirth, gksudo
[02:54] <Blippe> gtwirth, kdsu if you run kubuntu
[02:54] <[Wiebel] > ok that helped
[02:54] <[Wiebel] > I have yet another issue though
[02:54] <[Wiebel] > If i logout of gnome, some processes keep running
[02:54] <[Wiebel] > like gnome-panel
[02:54] <[Wiebel] > If i do the same test wit a new user , this doesnt happen
[02:55] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[02:55] <vice-versa> any toshiba tecra m4 users here?
[02:55] <untouchable> Hey ppl, i need a little help here...
[02:56] <GnarusLeo> Cant I view .jpg pictures??? What do I need?
[02:56] <apokryphos> GnarusLeo: 'course you can
[02:56] <apokryphos> untouchable: someone responded already in #kubuntu :)
[02:56] <ubuntu666> hi
[02:57] <GnarusLeo> apokryphos, how? every .jpg picture I have recieved could not be opened with anything
[02:57] <ubuntu666> is there a reason why my .bashrc is not being activated when I log in.  I cannot figure out why its not being read, and its pissing me off.  the .bashrc files for other users work when they log in.
[02:57] <vice-versa> or any toshiba notebook users for that matter
[02:57] <chrisbudden14> unfortunatly dpkg-reconfigure locals didnt work.  Should I try restarting X?
[02:58] <ubuntu666> if I type bash after logging in, it works my .bashrc is loaded
[02:58] <ubuntu666> wtf is going on with this
[02:58] <ubuntu666> i just installe breezy 'server'
[02:58] <_jason> ubuntu666: ~/.bashrc only gets sourced when you start a non-login shell.  man bash has the details
[02:58] <redguy> ubuntu666: AFAIR bashrc is not loaded on login shells
[02:58] <mwe> What does this mean in human language? : This GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu"..."/usr/bin/checkinstall": not in executable format: File format not recognized
[02:58] <mwe> it happens for all programs I try to debug
[02:58] <apokryphos> GnarusLeo: can't remember what the gnome image viewer is called. Opening it in nautilus doesn't work?
[02:59] <redguy> ubuntu666: if you want to run .bashrc you have to run it from .bash_profile
[02:59] <redguy> ubuntu666: and yes, man bash has this and also a lot of other usefull info ;-)
[02:59] <ubuntu666> _jason: i installed breezy 1 hour ago, updated to dapper, it was unstable, so now I installed breezy again.  Why is it, that when I installed breezy 'server' 1 hour ago, I did not have to worry about it, and this time around I install it again, and its not reading it
[02:59] <vice-versa> hmmm, no Toshiba lappy users here?
[02:59] <ubuntu666> I mean is this unpredictable behaviour in the distro
[02:59] <ubuntu666> or what?
[03:00] <ubuntu666> I am not sure if I can stick to a distro that does all sorts of weird crap on its own
[03:00] <_jason> ubuntu666: maybe it was getting sourced in bash_profile... I don't know
[03:00] <redguy> ubuntu666: no, propably some package made bash_profile source it. Localozation specific packages have a tendency to do so.
[03:00] <ompaul> ubuntu666, maybe the media is having a bad day
[03:01] <Nogimics> anyone know what: gnome-pty-helper is?
[03:02] <sorryd> hello all. Am I doing something wrong if I get a "W: Couldn't stat source package list" warning in synaptic?
[03:03] <ompaul> Nogimics, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-devel-list/2005-November/msg00014.html
[03:04] <ubuntu666> alright, i cannot figure out how to fix this bashrc thing
[03:04] <ubuntu666> im seriously ticked off and I have so little time
[03:04] <ubuntu666> i can't read man page upon man page to fix this trivial thing
[03:04] <ubuntu666> can someone just tell me what to do
[03:04] <ubuntu666> please
[03:05] <tom__> can anyone help a n00b with a trivial problem?
[03:05] <th0rndike> hi again yall
[03:05] <ubuntu666> install ubuntu once, it works, intsall it again it doesn't work
[03:05] <ubuntu666> what in the hell is going on
[03:05] <ubuntu666> this is retarded
[03:05] <th0rndike> tom__,  juz ask
[03:06] <Nogimics> ompaul doesnt really answer my question fully. However Ive just noticed when I used "ps x" that it's running and have never seen it there before
[03:06] <tom__> hang on it mite be oright
[03:08] <chrisbudden14> does anyone else here use Dapper and EN-GB keyboard layout
[03:08] <th0rndike> ubuntu666, u sure u did it well the second time? what u saying doesnt make sense
[03:09] <th0rndike> ubuntu666, but try being mor specific with your problem...
[03:09] <ubuntu666> this is fvcking stupid
[03:09] <ubuntu666> seriously, pardon the frustration
[03:09] <_jason> ubuntu666: we told you already, source bashrc in bash_profile
[03:09] <ubuntu666> but how hard is it to tell someone to put an entry for .bashrc in your .bash_profile
[03:10] <ubuntu666> _jason: yeh
[03:10] <th0rndike> nvm, im out for a while
[03:10] <th0rndike> bb ppl
[03:10] <Enthusiast78> Does postfix support ~/.forward files 'out of the box' in Ubuntu?
[03:10] <vice-versa> Nogimics: gnome-pty-helper is a program that the setuid application used to open a pseudo-terminal, set the permissions, ownership and record user login information.
[03:11] <ubuntu666> but seriously, I did this twice.  put in the ubuntu 5.10 cd and installed it twice.  One first install, everything is fine.  second time around, this bash problem occurs.  both time i popped in the cds and did 'server' install at boot
[03:11] <ubuntu666> why did this happen
[03:11] <ubuntu666> thats what I want to know
[03:11] <ubuntu666> do thigns randomly screw up in ubuntu
[03:11] <ziogio> ciao a tutti
[03:11] <ziogio> ragazzi
[03:11] <bwlang> ubuntu666: your attitude seems bad to me... perhaps your computer is sensing this and behaving in a non-deterministic way.
[03:11] <ziogio> quanlcuno mi aiuta?
[03:12] <ubuntu666> bwlang: im sorry it seems bad to you
[03:12] <Nogimics> vice-versa why would it be showing up when I run "ps x" it never normally does
[03:12] <ubuntu666> bwlang: no excuses for it, merely genuine reasons, that i am frustrated
[03:12] <ciplogic> !offtopic
[03:12] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[03:12] <ubuntu666> bwlang: also try not to be useless
[03:12] <gtwirth> I still cant get the folder open in konqueror as a su I can access it in konsole any sugestions
[03:12] <_jason> ubuntu666: what it is doing now is proper behavior according to man bash
[03:13] <ubuntu666> _jason: don't care whats proper or what isn't, im simply wanting to know why two installs in the same way are behaving differently
[03:13] <vice-versa> Nogimics: dunno, something spawned it
[03:14] <_jason> ubuntu666: given that your last install is lost, that's impossible to determine.  You now know how things work, just make it do what you want and move on
[03:14] <IzeyJr> is it possible to install win98 after I have installed Ubuntu?
[03:14] <nazgulwalker> where can i install java sdk for my amd64 ubntu breezy?
[03:14] <ubuntu666> well
[03:14] <ESPOiG> where do i put fonts?
[03:15] <ubuntu666> supposing I move on, and something along the line breaks on it own
[03:15] <ubuntu666> then what?
[03:15] <ubuntu666> simply keep moving on
[03:15] <ESPOiG> where do i put fonts?
[03:15] <RolfKaese|x> anyone here has knowledge about testdisk ?
[03:15] <balachmar> you canoot just put fonts somewhere
[03:15] <ESPOiG> yeh so were
[03:16] <balachmar> you will have to run a commans that I cannot remember by heart
[03:16] <IzeyJr> I want to duel boot but I have already installed Ubuntu
[03:16] <ESPOiG> i need to put in tahoma.ttf to get steam workin
[03:16] <_jason> ubuntu666: do what you want, you seem intent on blaming ubuntu even though you don't really know what happened
[03:16] <ubuntu666> btw, i one time i installed ubuntu, server, from cd, manpages didn't get installed, neither did alsa
[03:16] <balachmar> are the fonts ttf?
[03:16] <ESPOiG> yeh
[03:16] <balachmar> ok
[03:16] <balachmar> let me google for you
[03:16] <chrisbudden14> How can i reset the default keyboard layout
[03:16] <RolfKaese|x> IzeyJr and whats the problem?
[03:16] <ubuntu666> _jason: I am not blaming, I am asking, you're letting your blind love for ubuntu can't see past that and its making you defensive
[03:17] <confrey> hi everybody
[03:17] <ESPOiG> i read /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/truetype
[03:17] <ESPOiG> but it is wrong
[03:17] <ubuntu666> I just want to know if ubuntu is as unpredictable as it has been for me
[03:17] <ubuntu666> or if it will continue to do so
[03:17] <IzeyJr> RolfKaselx.... I am just tired of messin with wine so I want to install win98 to run the sorftware I have already paid for
[03:17] <ubuntu666> because for my computing needs, I cannot afford to keep fixing things everyday
[03:17] <balachmar>    1. Add the .ttf files to an existing directory that already has .ttf font files.
[03:17] <balachmar>    2. Regenerate the index with
[03:17] <balachmar>       ttmkfdir > fonts.dir
[03:17] <balachmar>    3. Restart the font server (or just restart the window manager).
[03:17] <paolob> guys, how do I enable apache2 in order to accept secure connections?
[03:17] <vice-versa> Nogimics: pstree might shed some light on it for you though, sorry had to answer the phone.
[03:17] <balachmar> just put it allong woth the other fonts
[03:18] <nazgulwalker> where can i install java sdk for my amd64 ubntu breezy?
[03:18] <nazgulwalker> can't i install emacs for amd64?
[03:18] <ubuntu666> ultimate faggotry
[03:18] <ubuntu666> ban me
[03:18] <RolfKaese|x> IzeyJr oh... euhm cant help ya there ^-^;
[03:18] <ESPOiG> doesnt work
[03:18] <balachmar> it doesn't?
[03:18] <Nogimics> vice-versa no probs thanks for replying
[03:18] <IzeyJr> Rolfkaselx.... okies I quess I'll just wing it and see what happens
[03:19] <RolfKaese|x> yo
[03:19] <IzeyJr> thanks though
[03:19] <tom__> ahhhhh! dont suppose anyone has ever had any connection problems with term
[03:19] <confrey> I need help : I can't mount /home partition; I obtain this result from fsck.ext3 : Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda7 --- and  --- Could be this a zero-lenght partition?  what can I do?
[03:19] <balachmar> does it recognize the command?
[03:20] <ESPOiG> nah
[03:20] <ESPOiG> no such command
[03:20] <ESPOiG> i thought there wuld be just a folder sumwhere
[03:20] <ESPOiG> but i cant find it
[03:20] <nazgulwalker> can't i install emacs for amd64?(sudo apt-get install emacs) tells i can not ?
[03:20] <balachmar> no, it doesn't work like that
[03:20] <ESPOiG> umm well
[03:21] <ESPOiG> did u read were i read it for
[03:21] <ESPOiG> usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/truetype
[03:21] <balachmar> then first install the command ttmkfdir through the synaptic package manager
[03:21] <ESPOiG> that was someone else
[03:21] <ESPOiG> im just gunna search for .ttf
[03:21] <caglar_> what is a good alternative for gedit?
[03:21] <ESPOiG> cream
[03:21] <_jason> caglar_: vim
[03:21] <ESPOiG> caglar_: cream
[03:21] <kingspawn> nazgulwalker, try emacs21
[03:22] <balachmar> ESPOiG: check this website: http://www.myfonts.com/Article1391.html
[03:22] <balachmar> that should help you
[03:22] <nazgulwalker> kingspawn : thank you!
[03:22] <kingspawn> nazgulwalker, :)
[03:23] <vice-versa> Any Toshiba lappy users here?
[03:24] <tom__> how would i go about installing emacs for a linux n00b
[03:24] <RolfKaese|x> brb
[03:24] <gtwirth> I think I was asking my question wrong from what I needed I need to know how to open a window in konqueror as a su
[03:25] <nazgulwalker> "is there a file for j2sdk1.4 for amd64 ubuntu breezy?"
[03:26] <theine_> tom__: install the emacs21 package?
[03:26] <confrey> I need help : I can't mount /home partition; I obtain this result from fsck.ext3 : Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda7 --- and  --- Could be this a zero-lenght partition?  what can I do?
[03:27] <theine_> confrey: are you sure that /dev/hda7 is your home partition?
[03:28] <GTX> how do I stop shift+backspace from restarting X realy pissing me off
[03:29] <gtwirth> I think I was asking my question wrong from what I needed I need to know how to open a window in konqueror as a su
[03:29] <theine_> GTX: shift-backspace? you mean alt-ctrl-backspace, right?
[03:29] <GTX> no
[03:29] <GTX> ctrl + alt + backspace i got disabled
[03:29] <GTX> but just shift + backspace does it to
[03:29] <theine_> GTX: shift-backspace doesn't do anything on my machine
[03:29] <GTX> and i cant find out how to disable it
[03:30] <GTX> it does here..
[03:30] <GTX> im running dapper
[03:30] <Blippe> shift backspace does nothing on my machine either!
[03:30] <theine_> GTX: me too
[03:30] <cas> GTX: You use Xgl right?
[03:30] <GTX> yes
[03:30] <cas> there is a #ubuntu-xgl for xgl related questions
[03:31] <cas> to fix it you must set a decent keyboard layout in system-prefs-keyboard
[03:31] <redguy> there is #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[03:31] <theine_> cas: so shift-backspace is an Xgl thing?
[03:31] <bmp> oooo
[03:31] <bmp> xgl
[03:31] <bmp> I desire that
[03:31] <bmp> DESIRE IT
[03:31] <cas> theine_: yes it is
[03:31] <bmp> it seems so very magical.
[03:32] <redguy> but smells like bloat :-)
[03:32] <gary> In gnome terminal (well vim really) is there a way of changing the colours of php comments, or comments in general.
[03:32] <GTX> cas, i changed the layout to my right one (uk) now will it happen or not
[03:32] <gary> My colour scheme is good apart from this small thing
[03:33] <mathieu> gary: Edit -> Profile
[03:33] <cas> GTX: did you also set  the model?
[03:33] <GTX> yes
[03:33] <cas> GTX: well, sorry to say, but only one way to find out ;)
[03:33] <mathieu> Edit -> Current Profile -> Colors
[03:33] <Enchanter> Howto play rmvb file with totem?
[03:34] <GTX> woot cas i fixed it
[03:34] <GTX> thanks
[03:34] <cas> GTX: your welcome ;)
[03:34] <jbritz22> I get this error when trying to run azureus, http://pastebin.com/616085, can anyone help me?
[03:35] <ichdasich> hi
[03:36] <cas> jbritz22: do you have the sun java installed?
[03:36] <jbritz22> cas, is there any way to check?
[03:36] <tom__> im bout to install java
[03:37] <cas> jbritz22: java -version
[03:37] <cas> jbritz22: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[03:38] <cas> thats a good howto that worked for me
[03:38] <jbritz22> cas, Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[03:38] <jbritz22> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)
[03:38] <caglar_> how do I reconfigure my systemlanguage?
[03:39] <cas> jbritz22: then update to 1.5.0_06, azureus really needs a 1.5 sun version to run correctly
[03:39] <jbritz22> how do I update
[03:39] <cas> jbritz22: see the link ^^^^
[03:40] <void^> this error usually indicates a bad java call or actually missing libs, or sometimes amd64/32bit mismatch
[03:40] <ichdasich> does someone know, which runlevel the defaultone is?
[03:41] <kmilo> Hi
[03:42] <Hexidigital> how do i enable FTP services in Breezy?
[03:42] <andriijas> how do i apt get the source from a package
[03:42] <Hexidigital> !ftp
[03:42] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[03:43] <NoWhereMan[away] > hi all
[03:43] <Faulteh> another good ftp server - vsftpd (very secure ftpd)
[03:43] <chrisbudden14> my keymap for en-gb is messed up, how can I reset it?
[03:44] <Hexidigital> faulteh, can i find that on the synaptic installer?
[03:44] <stamen> hello
[03:44] <fart> can someone  hel- me get ubuntu to play dvds
[03:44] <enno_> hi!
[03:44] <stamen> could anybody give a working config
[03:44] <stamen> for tv-out
[03:44] <stamen> please
[03:44] <cas> andriijas: apt-get source <package>
[03:44] <Faulteh> Hexidigital, yeah i stumbled across it there
[03:44] <NoWhereMan[away] > I'm planning to upgrade to dapper, I'm donwloading flight 5, I'd like to use the cdrom for the upgrade, how do I do it?
[03:44] <Hexidigital> thanks faulteh
[03:44] <NoWhereMan[away] > apt-cdrom ?
[03:44] <enno_> fart: if you have installed the movie players you only need the codecs
[03:45] <tom__> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[03:45] <confrey> theine_, yes, Im sure, but itt's not matter, I can't mount it as generic ext3 in /mnt
[03:45] <LinuxJones> NoWhereMan[away] : just load the cd and you'll be prompted to upgrade
[03:45] <vice-versa> Any Toshiba lappy users about?
[03:45] <NoWhereMan[away] > LinuxJones: cool :) thanx
[03:45] <fart> i thought  already got them. where d you g to get them
[03:46] <stamen> so, is somebody going to help me?
[03:46] <mike__> tesing
[03:46] <enno_> stamen: which graphic adapter?
[03:46] <stamen> ati
[03:47] <stamen> I make it to work with 3D
[03:47] <NoWhereMan[away] > anybody here tried xgl with an S3 card?
[03:47] <Hexidigital> vsftpd gave me this error: 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[03:47] <stamen> but can;t make it to work with tv-out
[03:47] <mike__> Is this an appropriate venue to ask about OpenOffice configuration?
[03:47] <hugo|uwe> hello,  i have a stuped question, but which package provides "make"?
[03:47] <chrisbudden14> build-essential hugo|uwe
[03:47] <mike__> hugo, "make" supplies make.
[03:48] <Faulteh> Hexidigital, u may already have an ftpd server running (like proftpd) you may want to either stop that one or uninstall it
[03:48] <hugo|uwe> thanks chrisbudden14
[03:48] <Frogzoo> hugo|uwe: 'build-essential'
[03:48] <Seveas> !tell hugo|uwe about compiling
[03:48] <Hexidigital> i dont remember installing one, Faulteh... is one installed as default?
[03:48] <enno_> stamen: dont know much about it but maybe this helps: http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/Ubuntu/i386/misc/atitvout_0.4-2_i386.deb.19384.html
[03:48] <chrisbudden14> anyone using a en-gb keyboard config
[03:49] <stamen> enno: OK, will try, thank u
[03:49] <Frogzoo> hugo|uwe: no - make apparently
[03:49] <Faulteh> Hexidigital, i can't remember if one is installed by default, but at the shell see if any ftpd is running, ps ax |grep ftp
[03:49] <sfaris> !installwindows
[03:49] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sfaris
[03:49] <sfaris> :\
[03:49] <sfaris> !windows
[03:49] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sfaris
[03:50] <sfaris> hm, im searching for the guide how to put grub in the mbr after installing windows
[03:50] <Hexidigital> faulteh, 28635 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/vsftpd
[03:50] <Hexidigital> 28716 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep ftp
[03:51] <Hexidigital> looks like only vsftpd
[03:51] <NoWhereMan[away] > how can I bechmark gl performance ?
[03:51] <NoWhereMan[away] > *opengl
[03:51] <Hexidigital> is there a GUI for vsftpd?
[03:51] <Faulteh> Hexidigital, it's a pretty simple config file - /etc/vsftpd.conf
[03:51] <cas> NoWhereMan[away] : glxgears
[03:51] <NoWhereMan[away] > cas huh, yes! :) thanks
[03:51] <Hexidigital> faulteh, thanks, maybe i can figure it out in there
[03:52] <sfaris> does anybody know how to restore grub into the MBR after installing windows?
[03:53] <Mr_Morden> how to create a boot floppy for ubuntu?
[03:53] <Frogzoo> !tell sfaris about fixgrub
[03:54] <Frogzoo> !tell sfaris about grub
[03:54] <chmod775> fixgrub
[03:54] <sfaris> thanks
[03:54] <chmod775> !fixgrub
[03:54] <ubotu> chmod775: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:57] <stamen> anno: are u there
[03:58] <black_13> i want to to do a full update of the system i have what is the way to do that
[03:58] <stamen> how to fix this:
[03:58] <stamen> stamen@stamen:~$ sudo atitvout auto
[03:58] <stamen> VBE call failed.
[03:58] <stamen> Maybe this command is not supported by your graphics adapter?
[03:58] <stamen> Did your parameters (if you specified some) really make sense?
[03:58] <stamen> Please try all other available commands before complaining!
[03:58] <stamen> vbe is loaded
[03:58] <redguy> stamen: dont't paste in here
[03:58] <stamen> ok
[03:59] <stamen> but can somebody help me
[04:02] <stamen> d
[04:02] <stamen> d
[04:03] <galen> hello
[04:04] <liana> can someone help, am a newbie and just installed 5.10 about an hour ago... repositories were working fine for a while but now am getting a message saying it 'couldn't stat source package' when i try to apt-get something... what do i do?
[04:04] <kmilo> sfaris, boot from live, mount the partition chroot in to it and run the grub command
[04:04] <galen> does some has knowledge / xp hor to install flashplayer ?
[04:05] <galen> hmm hmm everone's busy ;o)
[04:05] <Seveas> liana, sudo apt-get update
[04:06] <liana> seveas: no change after the update
[04:06] <Seveas> liable, please psate results of apt-get update and apt-get install on the pastebin
[04:06] <Mr_Morden> How can I create an Ubuntu Boot Floppy for a computer that does not support boot-cds (on windows)?
[04:07] <pdlnhrd> is there a way to setup /etc/hosts to allow for all subdomains of a domain instead of having to list out each one individually?
[04:07] <GTX> how do I restart my networking i tried /etc/init.d/networking restart but it didnt load /etc/network/interfaces any ideas?
[04:07] <liana> seveas: sorry, am completely new to this, i hope you can excuse my stupidity.. but what is a pastebin ;)
[04:07] <Frogzoo> galen: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:08] <Frogzoo> !pastebin
[04:08] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[04:08] <GTX> Can someone help me on my question please?
[04:08] <liana> !pastebin
[04:08] <liana> whoops
[04:08] <Morfosomo> liana, no stupidity comes from beeing new to something,. pastebin is a web site where you can put text and information that would be really cumbersome to display here
[04:08] <Morfosomo> zen mind beginers mind ;)
[04:09] <galen> Frogzoo, couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree :o(
[04:09] <fart> dos anyone know why vlc dosent play dvds on ubuntu
[04:09] <galen> fart, got to install nonfree codecs ;o) am working on it myself
[04:10] <fart> where can i get it
[04:10] <anstei> GTX: try sudo ifconfig [interface]  down && sudo ifconfig [interface]  up
[04:10] <fart> i thought vlc had all the codecs
[04:10] <galen> fart try sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[04:11] <liana> seveas: is pastebinned :)
[04:11] <galen> fart in windows yes, in linux not
[04:12] <Seveas> liana, that looks suspicious - VERY suspicious even. PLease paste the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin too - I think it's broken
[04:13] <Hexidigital> anyone know where i can find a list of college irc channels?? i need to work on a project
[04:13] <s_spiff> how do i install .tar.gz files?
[04:13] <s_spiff>  i got easy ubuntu tarball
[04:13] <ompaul> Hexidigital, would not really be the sort of thing this network goes for
[04:13] <Seveas> !tell s_spiff about compiling
[04:13] <s_spiff>  so wanna know how to instralling
[04:13] <tristanmike> Is there a way to get Pantone colors for use in The Gimp/Inkscape/Scribus ?
[04:14] <fart> i got "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded with" sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[04:14] <Hexidigital> ompaul, i thought so, but i also thought it wouldn't hurt to ask
[04:14] <black_13> how do i a complete update of my system ?
[04:14] <ompaul> s_spiff, go to #easyubuntu and ask there
[04:14] <liana> seveas: sources posted
[04:14] <s_spiff> ok..thaank
[04:14] <Frogzoo> black_13: 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[04:15] <Seveas> liana, you're mixing 2 versions of Ubuntu and some crappy unoffical repos there
[04:15] <black_13> Frogzoo thanks
[04:15] <liana> seveas: whoops. what should i change?
[04:15] <Seveas> liable, what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[04:15] <Frogzoo> black_13: yw
[04:15] <Seveas> liana*
[04:15] <liana> lol freudian slip
[04:16] <liana> seveas:  Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[04:16] <malba> ola
[04:16] <malba> ola
[04:16] <malba> alwuiej abla con migop
[04:16] <Seveas> liana, ok, go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6047 and use that file as sources.list
[04:16] <Seveas> malba, english please
[04:16] <lasindi> Is there a way to start up another simultaneous X11 session from KDE (like the "Switch to another user" button in GNOME)?
[04:17] <kmilo> lasindi, startx -- :1
[04:17] <fart> if i could only watch a dvd
[04:17] <s_spiff> ompaul, i joined easuyubuntu... and no1 cares to help out there
[04:17] <patrix> !tell galen about flash
[04:17] <s_spiff>  can u just tell me what commands to use to install a tarball?
[04:17] <jayr168> how can I make a link to konqueror SUPER USER mode?
[04:18] <Frogzoo> !tell fart about restricted
[04:18] <jayr168> how can I make a link to konqueror SUPER USER mode?
[04:18] <Seveas> jayr168, you shouldn't...
[04:19] <kfirb> how can I tell why my computer freezes the screen ? which log file I should look into ?
[04:19] <jayr168> seveas: theres no problem in the only one using my pc
[04:19] <Seveas> jayr168, you can seriously mess it up that way...
[04:19] <tristanmike> s_spiff, "tar xvjf file.tar.bz2"  for a tar.bz2 and "tar xvzf file.tar.gz" for a tar.gz
[04:19] <jayr168> please tell me how.. i used 'kdesu kfmclient' it ask my password and quits..
[04:19] <Seveas> kfirb, /var/log/{kern*,emerg*,syslog}
[04:20] <s_spiff> tristanmike, thats... will try it.
[04:20] <kfirb> Seveas: is there a better way to look there than just less all the three files??
[04:20] <Seveas> kfirb, tail -n 100 | less ;)
[04:20] <tristanmike> s_spiff, of course, you can always right click on the file and select "Extract Here" for the eaiser way, but that's just me ;P
[04:20] <kfirb> Seveas: thanks
[04:21] <Raskall> hmm... why does ubuntu (breezy) sometimes fuck up character set when it has gotten updates and been rebooted?
[04:21] <Raskall> I very often has to run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to get things working again.
[04:21] <Detrux> Hello
[04:21] <fart> yay libdvdplay0
[04:22] <Seveas> Raskall, maybe temporary langpack problem
[04:22] <scott> Hi there - am very new to Ubuntu, and to Linux (have just moved from Windows...). I'm a bit lost. Every time I try to run an install .bin file I get the following error message: "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:22] <scott> ". Does anybody know what I need to do?
[04:22] <Detrux> I am thinking fo installing this, but I am new to linux, can anyone help answer a few questions?
[04:22] <Seveas> hmm, breezy - shouldn't happen there
[04:22] <Seveas> scott, yes, don't run installers but use Ubuntu packages.
[04:22] <Raskall> Seveas: the problems are when ssh-ing in and working in screen
[04:22] <Seveas> Detrux, sure
[04:22] <lasindi> kmilo: I mean one that starts up a gdm login screen and all that, just like you can in GNOME.
[04:23] <tristanmike> Scribus doesn't have a Menu entry ??
[04:23] <Detrux> Do I have to create a new partition for ubuntu, or will ubuntu setup do this?
[04:23] <jayr168> how do I add the location bar in nautilus gnome?
[04:23] <scott> Seveas - sorry, not sure what you mean.
[04:23] <Seveas> jayr168, <ctrl> L
[04:23] <Seveas> scott, what are you installing?
[04:23] <scott> Trying to install Realplayer - the media players that were bundled aren't doing it for me.
[04:24] <Seveas> don't.
[04:24] <Seveas> install mplayer and w32codecs
[04:24] <Seveas> !tell scott about restricted
[04:24] <Detrux> Do I have to create a new partition for ubuntu, or will ubuntu setup do this?
[04:24] <kfirb_> hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
[04:24] <Seveas> Detrux, the installer can create and resize partitions for you
[04:24] <Detrux> thank-you
[04:24] <kfirb_> does this mean I have bad sectors?
[04:24] <cmg_> my /etc/resolv.conf file gets rewritten every time I reboot, so i have to re-enter my DNS setting every time I boot this machine.. any idea what is going on (i'm running hoary)
[04:25] <Seveas> kfirb_, it means you have harddisk errors, bad sectors are a (nut unlikely) possibility
[04:25] <Seveas> cmg_, you use DHCP?
[04:25] <jayr168> seveas: how do I get back to the tabbed mode in nautilus
[04:25] <cmg_> Seveas,  no, static
[04:25] <kfirb_> Seveas: any suggestions what may cause this?
[04:25] <Seveas> kfirb_, sometimes harddisks die
[04:25] <liana> seveas: sources are still not working, still saying couldn't stat source packages
[04:26] <Seveas> liable, you need to run apt-get update once
[04:26] <derelm> hi everyone, i am having troubles with my wlan usb-card. it is a wusb54g linksys card. can anyone please assist?
[04:26] <Seveas> liana*
[04:26] <kfirb_>  hda: task_in_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=87162296, sector=87162296
[04:26] <liana> sev: lol
[04:26] <kfirb_> was following the last err... does it enlighten the thing?
[04:26] <Seveas> kfirb_, still says there are errors
[04:27] <jayr168> seveas: how do I get back to the tabbed mode in nautilus
[04:27] <Seveas> jayr168, nautilus has no 'tabbed mode'
[04:27] <kfirb_> Is it likely that this is the reason that my machine hangs on and off ? (just freezes the screen, may be during screensaver)
[04:27] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: is your drive making funny noises?
[04:27] <jayr168> seveas: I mean the default mode before I pressed ctrl+L
[04:27] <chrisbudden14> what files are to do with fonts in ~/
[04:27] <Seveas> jayr168, press it again
[04:27] <liana> seveas: sweet, part is working now, although is still not installing things, now it's telling me it can't get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open; unable to lock the download directory
[04:28] <kfirb_> Frogzoo: I don't hear any, but the power supply does :)
[04:28] <jayr168> seveas: not working
[04:28] <Seveas> liana, you probably have another package manager (synaptic, the auto-updater etc..) open
[04:28] <stoned> which package contains the "DejaVu Sans Condensed" font?
[04:28] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: because you really shouldn't be getting those errors
[04:28] <Seveas> jayr168, then type in a file location, it'll disappear
[04:28] <kfirb_> Frogzoo: should I try a different HD?
[04:28] <patrick522> hello
[04:29] <nosilver4u> are there any decent programs for capturing video on linux?
[04:29] <Seveas> nosilver4u, kino, cinelerra
[04:29] <patrick522> right i just installed ubuntu 5.10 but how do i see my other windows partions
[04:29] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: is this for an existing or new install?
[04:29] <kfirb_> and some other unrelated question: is there a photoshop for linux?
[04:30] <Seveas> kfirb_, gimp
[04:30] <koobi> kfirb_: you can try pixel, or GIMP
[04:30] <patrick522> gimp is the best
[04:30] <koobi> pixel is not open source though but GIMP is
[04:30] <Metaltron> !mp3
[04:30] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:30] <Seveas> !tell patrick522 about ntfs
[04:30] <kfirb_> Frogzoo:  it's +- 3 months old, updated
[04:30] <kfirb_> (breezy)
[04:30] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: and you've never had these problems up to now?
[04:31] <jayr168> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686-smp is this my kernel?
[04:31] <jayr168> is it an executable 'binary' file?
[04:31] <kfirb_> Frogzoo: This copmuter does problems since the day it was bought (2 years ago), but usually it did it under windows.
[04:31] <kfirb_> It was quite stable for a while under ununtu...
[04:31] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: what's your power supply?
[04:31] <Seveas> that is your kernel indeed and you cannot just execute it
[04:31] <chrisbudden14> font files anyone?
[04:31] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[04:32] <kfirb_> 220V transformator, probably outputs 150/200/250W
[04:33] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: it's a little known, dirty secret at the cheap end of the pc market, that cheap power supplies cause all sorts of hard to track down problems
[04:33] <jayr168> xorg and nvidia PCX 5300...  when using the 'nv' driver cause frezze on my system
[04:33] <jayr168> i need to set it to VESA mode
[04:33] <scott> Seveas: Is there any list I can get of apps that will or will not work well with Ubuntu?
[04:34] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: if you can, swap in a quality power supply & see if the problem goes away
[04:34] <Seveas> scott, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:34] <jayr168> how do I prevent X from being started when booting?
[04:34] <patrick522> where do i type this in to get the script cd
[04:34] <patrick522> wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[04:34] <scott> Tx
[04:34] <Seveas> patrick522, applications -> accessories -> terminal
[04:34] <patrick522> ok
[04:35] <liana> seveas: it's working now *cross fingers* thanks for your help!
[04:35] <nosilver4u> has anyone here actually done video capture with ubuntu?
[04:36] <patrix> jayr168, if yo'r ein gnome right now, go to system -> admin -> serivces  and disabled gdm and kdm (if you have kde)
[04:36] <koobi> Seveas: how come your repositories never work for me? they seem to be down all the time. i use your mirrors, btw
[04:36] <kfirb_> Frogzoo: so I should but a decent power supply to start with? is it likely that this crashes the HD?
[04:36] <Seveas> koobi, which mirror?
[04:36] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: a new power supply might not fix the problem - but if you can borrow a power supply to test, then definately worth a shot
[04:36] <koobi> actually i tried all mirrors you had posted on your page that had the complete repos, a few weeks ago and none of them seemed to work. are they all functioning now?
[04:37] <Seveas> koobi, they/ve been functioning all the time, I think you need to read the big bold notices on the wikipage again
[04:37] <jayr168> patrix: I cant do that, theres no time after X is started right after I log on it freezes
[04:37] <patrix> jayr168, if not, go in /etc/rc2.d/   and delete S??gdm and S??kdm   (the ?? are 2 numbers, but the shell will udnerstand this, as ? means "any character")
[04:37] <patrick522> wow it worked now i can see my windows partions
[04:37] <kfirb_> and another unrelated question guys: I dled via bittorrent a disk image which is a pair of .cue/.bin files. Under windows nero can burn them, and I can mount them using a virtual cdrom (daemon) program. I have no idea what to do here...
[04:37] <ompaul> koobi, the ones that say get the repos from mirrors :)
[04:38] <koobi> i did, its odd that it didnt work though. even wine.sourceforge,net doesnt work for me...strange
[04:38] <koobi> and archive.ubuntu.com doesnt work either...maybe its my location
[04:38] <jc_> Hi everybody !
[04:38] <ompaul> well if you did  wine.sourceforge.net in its palce
[04:39] <koobi> ompaul: wine.sourceforge.net worked 3 days ago, but not anymore
[04:39] <patrick522> now heres a big question what the best music player to my my mp3 on
[04:39] <ompaul> koobi, where are you?
[04:39] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: k3b will burn the .bin, if given the .cue
[04:39] <koobi> apt-get gives me a 404 for wine and tells me that the gzip at archive.ubuntu.com is in an incorrect format
[04:39] <gentoo> hi
[04:40] <gentoo> wei hier jemand was die dateierweiterung atb ist?
[04:40] <koobi> ompaul: i live in Sri Lanka - south asia, south of india
[04:40] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[04:40] <ompaul> koobi, it should not be an issue
[04:40] <ompaul> koobi, go into #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:40] <Seveas> gentoo, english please
[04:40] <koobi> yeah i'll sort it out later..its just weird though, just wondering
[04:41] <kfirb_> Frogzoo: what is the simplest way to mount it ? (I have only empty DVDs currently :) )
[04:41] <Esco> hi
[04:41] <gogo_> how do i edit grub to make windows the default operating system on startup?
[04:41] <Esco> i have problems with my ubuntu
[04:41] <gentoo> sorry
[04:41] <Esco> i use a router with dhcp but i became no ip adress
[04:41] <patrix> gogo_, insert the line:  "default x"   where x is the number correspodning to the entry (first entry is 0, second is 1, etc)
[04:41] <Seveas> gogo_, change the line that starts with default and make it point to the correct one
[04:41] <Esco> what is it??
[04:41] <patrick522> i keep getting an error when i try to play mp3 in rythmbox media player
[04:41] <gogo_> Thanx
[04:41] <Seveas> !mp3
[04:41] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:42] <patrix> gogo_, or leave default to 0, and move the windows entry as the first entry
[04:42] <Hexidigital> what's the link to the paste site?
[04:42] <Esco> hey can someone help me?
[04:42] <NoWhereMan> I've inserted dapper cd, it has been found but I fear it won't dist-upgrade but just update
[04:42] <NoWhereMan> Esco what's up
[04:43] <Xnix> anyone in here good with sed?
[04:43] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: oh, i thought you wanted to burn the image to cd. To mount the image, you need to use 'bchunk' to convert it to an iso, you can then mount it as a loopback 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loopback blah.iso /mnt'
[04:43] <Esco> i use a router with dhcp and i became no ip adress what is it?
[04:43] <Xnix> im trying to figure out how to replace all '-' in a file
[04:43] <Xnix> \- isnt working
[04:43] <NoWhereMan> Esco, have you tried typing sudo dhclient in a terminal ?
[04:43] <ompaul> Xinx tr is a good program to work with for doing that
[04:43] <iceman_> what max processor support in ubuntu defauls kernel
[04:43] <kfirb_> Frogzoo bchunk produces only  2 small iso files... I doesn't seem like an image to me...
[04:43] <Xnix> ompaul is there no way to do it in said?
[04:43] <Esco> yes i have typed sudo dhclient -s 192.168.0.1
[04:44] <Esco> and nothing happend
[04:44] <Xnix> ompaul bleh sed
[04:44] <iceman_> Will ubuntu on install support quad cpu's ?
[04:44] <NoWhereMan> Esco, I'm afraid I can't help here I'm not good with networking
[04:44] <ompaul> Xnix, yeap but I would not be the best with that s/\-/You_name_it/g
[04:45] <Esco> ok thanks
[04:45] <Esco> i have a problem with dhcp can everybody help me?
[04:45] <Frogzoo> kfirb_: 'bchunk blah.bin blah.cue blah'
[04:45] <Xnix> ompaul yeah i tried that, doesnt seem to work, i think there is something special with the -
[04:45] <Dr34mC0d3r> im researching a ubuntu based LDAP authintication server for windows xp clients - anyone got some good links for me?
[04:46] <neurosis> is there a way to have users only see what processes they are running without jailing them?
[04:46] <jc_> try sudo dhclient eth0 (if eth0 is your interface)
[04:46] <iceman_> Compaq Proliant 6500 QUAD XEON P3 500 mhz Server  wonder if i'll have much trouble getting full kernel support on that ...
[04:46] <Dr34mC0d3r> kinda like a Linux Active Directory for windows clients to authinticate against.
[04:46] <jbroome> iceman_: smp kernel should do fine
[04:46] <NoWhereMan> cas, I've put the dapper cd into the drive and it was added to the sources
[04:47] <NoWhereMan> what now? just "mark all the updates" O_o
[04:47] <NoWhereMan> ?
[04:47] <iceman_> figure for a file server ,,, hay ... redundance pays ...
[04:48] <ompaul> Xnix, hmm
[04:48] <galen> guys check the universe / multiverse adding repositories an all will be fine ;o) it's so easy
[04:48] <cas> NoWhereMan: did I missed something, last time I helped you I only said glxgears :)
[04:48] <cas> NoWhereMan: you wanna update to dapper or something?
[04:49] <NoWhereMan> cas, oops, sorry wrong person :p
[04:49] <NoWhereMan> anyway, yes if you can help me
[04:49] <ofer0> in "dpkg -l" i found a line like this: "rc     program      version         description". what does the "rc" means? I know that "ii" means the program is installed
[04:49] <Frogzoo_away> kfirb_: back
[04:49] <cas> NoWhereMan: np :)
[04:49] <jayr168> what is a FOO bar?
[04:50] <holobyted> is there any way to make all dialog boxes open in the middle of the screen? they tend to open up... anywhere
[04:50] <NoWhereMan> cas, I've downloaded flight 5 and LinuxJones told me to put into the drive, and it would ask for updating... actually it has been added to the sources, do I have just to "maek all the updates" ? I don't want to scr*w up somthing, before I go on :)
[04:50] <IzeyJr> can someone tell me the command to copy a file from one folder to another please
[04:51] <tristanmike> jayr168, in what context ?
[04:51] <ofer0> IzeyJr, cp
[04:51] <IzeyJr> thanks
[04:51] <ofer0> IzeyJr, cp /path/to/file /path/to/copy
[04:51] <koobi> IzeyJr: cp /source/file.ext /destination/file.ext
[04:51] <jayr168> example....  lspci | grep -a multimedia
[04:51] <jayr168> example....  lspci | grep -i multimedia
[04:51] <IzeyJr> lol okies thanks alot
[04:52] <Esco> hey is here someone how nows something about dhcp??
[04:52] <__gotcha> What is the recommended resource to check that Ubuntu supports a specific printer ?
[04:52] <ofer0> Esco, me
[04:52] <__gotcha> not usre my client was ok
[04:52] <ofer0> __gotcha, ubuntu livecd
[04:52] <__gotcha> sure
[04:52] <ofer0> Esco, what seems to be the problem?
[04:52] <dman> does ubuntu need a special param to support scsi raid
[04:52] <avi_> hi all :)
[04:53] <Esco> i have a router with dhcp
[04:53] <[LS] Czav> Hi there, I am totally new to linux but i have been recomended ubuntu by several of my firends, however i have downloaded 2 versions of the live cd, but i run into the same problem when trying to install them. anyone that wouldnt mind querying me so i could try and see what i do wrong?
[04:53] <__gotcha> ofer0: iow, no way to know without buying the printer ?
[04:53] <ofer0> dman, don't think so. it should identify you are using SCSI @ setup time
[04:53] <Esco> and i dont becam an ip adress
[04:53] <__gotcha> or you imply going to the shop with the LiveCD ?
[04:53] <avi_> i got this eror: checking QTDIR... configure: error: *** QTDIR must be defined, or --with-qtdir option given
[04:53] <avi_>  what shuld do?
[04:53] <dman> ofer0 the parition manager cant see my drive
[04:53] <ofer0> [LS] Czav, please don't install the livecd.
[04:53] <frogzoo> [LS] Czav: you can't install the live cd - you need to burn the install
[04:53] <kr> lol
[04:54] <ofer0> __gotcha, please give me the manufactor and model and how you connect it to the computer
[04:54] <[LS] Czav> so i should download the other and burn it out?
[04:54] <[LS] Czav> but id like to keep my windows instal incase it doesnt work for me..
[04:54] <ofer0> Esco, you don't get an IP address by DHCP from the router?
[04:54] <kfirb_> Frogzoo: does  the created .iso file of bchunk needs the original .cue/.bin afterwards or is it possible to delete them ?
[04:54] <__gotcha> ofer0 HP LaserJet 2600 USB
[04:54] <Esco> yes
[04:54] <ofer0> avi_, you have QT installed?
[04:54] <frogzoo> kfirb_: don't dispose of them until you know it's worked ;)
[04:55] <frogzoo> kfirb_: so can you do the loopback mount now?
[04:55] <ofer0> [LS] Czav, use gparted in linux or partition magic in windows to resize your partition and create a new partition for linux
[04:55] <kfirb_> frogzoo: problem is, it creates for some reason 2 files, 70k each, I can loopback mount them even, but it seems they're too small and something is not going well
[04:55] <[LS] Czav> allright.
[04:55] <[LS] Czav> thanks.
[04:55] <kfirb_> since I got the files from bittorrent, I assume they're ok...
[04:55] <NoWhereMan> LinuxJones, it's enough to "mark all the updates" from synaptic? is this the equivalent of a dist-upgrade?
[04:55] <kfirb_> weird...
[04:56] <ofer0> Esco, okay. dhclient is running?
[04:56] <frogzoo> kfirb_: yup, the bin & iso files should be about the same size
[04:56] <__gotcha> ofer0, HP LaserJet 2600 USB
[04:56] <Esco> dhclient?i typ it in the console but nothing happend
[04:56] <ofer0> __gotcha, wait a sec please
[04:56] <__gotcha> np
[04:56] <ofer0> Esco, ps aux | grep dhclient  --> give me the output
[04:57] <__gotcha> was not sure you had seen it
[04:57] <Esco> ok now im in windows i must reboot
[04:57] <kfirb_> Frogzoo, so I guess there's a problem with the specific .cue file I got...
[04:57] <kfirb_> Frogzoo: or with by bchunk , which I installed by apt-get.. :), which seems unlikely
[04:57] <frogzoo> kfirb_: one easy way to check would be to install k3b & try to burn it to disk, plus it just might work
[04:57] <ofer0> __gotcha, are you sure you are talking about 2600?
[04:57] <Esco> do you about /etc/network/interfaces??
[04:58] <__gotcha> yes
[04:58] <ofer0> __gotcha, okay nevermind
[04:58] <kfirb_> k3b is graphical?
[04:58] <frogzoo> kfirb_: bchunk doesn't support all .cue formats
[04:58] <frogzoo> kfirb_: yes
[04:58] <ofer0> Esco, yeah. but you should use graphical interfaces until you learn how to use the command line
[04:58] <Eleaf> hi
[04:58] <ofer0> Esco, sudo network-admin. this is a graphical interface for what you need. please play with it until it will work
[04:58] <matthes> hi
[04:58] <kfirb_> Frogzoo: is there an equivalent command line proggy?
[04:59] <Eleaf> hmm
[04:59] <frogzoo> kfirb_: nafaik
[04:59] <Esco> ok thanks
[04:59] <[LS] Czav> also, a quick question. I have amd x2 4400. should i download the 64bit or the regular version?
[05:00] <ofer0> __gotcha, sorry, I didn't find any information about this printer. please open a new thread @ ubuntuforums.org
[05:00] <Hexidigital> hey guys... having a problem getting CUPS to start
[05:00] <__gotcha> ofer0: what is the usual way to check this without disturbing you ?
[05:00] <takedown> [LS] Czav: 64 SMP
[05:00] <ofer0> __gotcha, search google and HCL
[05:01] <kfirb_> in the k3b desc, it says it is a gui for  cdrdao and cdrecord.
[05:01] <drape> anyone know of a guide for setting up a nvidia video card to connect to a hd wega via s-video?
[05:01] <drape> i get video, but no X
[05:01] <ofer0> kfirb_, that's because it uses cdrdao or cdrecord for burning
[05:02] <Hexidigital> !cups
[05:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[05:02] <dman> hrm well ubuntu is loading the scsi card
[05:02] <dman> but the parition manager isnt seeing my drive
[05:02] <ofer0> dman, what is your partition manager?
[05:03] <caglar_> my gpmayer doesnt allow me to select alsa as output since I compiled it from CVS, there is no "alsa" in the audio output list. can anyone help me?
[05:03] <ofer0> dman, use 'lshw' to see if your drive is indentified. if it doesn't, look in 'dmesg' to see if linux had problems with it
[05:04] <dman> lshw isnt on the install cd is it
[05:05] <ofer0> dman, I think it comes with ubuntu, isn't it?
[05:05] <tom__> can anyone help me with a java install
[05:05] <kfirb_> Frogzoo: I don't currently have any kde application installed, I am just too afraid it will load the system with a lot of drivers I don't really need
[05:05] <ofer0> yeap, it probably comes with ubuntu.
[05:05] <ofer0> tom__, use automatix
[05:05] <ofer0> kfirb_, drivers? for what?
[05:05] <tom__> how do i use automatix
[05:05] <dman> ofer0 the ubuntu paritoning wizard just says "manyally partition disk"
[05:05] <dman> asin it cant find _my_ disk
[05:05] <ofer0> tom__, first, download it.
[05:06] <anto9us> !automatix
[05:06] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:06] <tom__> ok
[05:06] <nazgulwalker> how can i compile a java file in my ubuntu amd64??
[05:06] <anto9us> !easyubuntu
[05:06] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[05:06] <ofer0> anto9us, don't have time
[05:06] <anto9us> ofer0, easyubuntu is a better alternative
[05:07] <kfirb_> ofer0: when I marked k3 for installation, it wanted to install 20 dependent packagaes, that seemed like a KDE extension to my installation
[05:07] <ofer0> anto9us, i'll try it soon. for now, my recommendation is automatix, since i have used it and tried it, and it is pretty good
[05:07] <tom__> the main problem with all of these automatix and easyubuntu is that my terminal wont see the internet connection, however my browser will so i can download things from the net over a browser then install them but not from terminal
[05:07] <tristanmike> ofer0, here's a comparison of automatix vs. easyubuntu
[05:07] <ofer0> kfirb_, that's okay. don't worry.
[05:08] <Blippe> anto9us, but i like to echo yes and no's with newlines!
[05:08] <anto9us> ofer0, please don't recommend it here, if you want to use it then that's your option :)
[05:08] <ofer0> tristanmike, where? :)
[05:08] <simosx> automatix appears to be ok to use now, however the appropriate solution is to have some "on-demand installer" for things like codecs.
[05:08] <nazgulwalker> how can i compile a java file in my ubuntu amd64??
[05:08] <patrick522> i cant play mp3 in rythmbox
[05:08] <tristanmike> ofer0, d'oh, brain fart, sorry, here http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[05:08] <ofer0> tristanmike, thanks
[05:08] <ofer0> patrick522, you have to install mp3 support
[05:09] <patrick522> how do i do that
[05:09] <ofer0> patrick522, mp3 is not an open source format
[05:09] <ofer0> that's why it won't come with ubuntu
[05:09] <nazgulwalker> i need java software development kid for amd64 can someone help me ?
[05:09] <tristanmike> patrick522, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad  for mp3 support
[05:09] <anto9us> !mp3
[05:09] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:09] <ofer0> tristanmike, why not use aptitude?
[05:09] <kingspaw1> anyone know where to look for information on changing what a laptop does when you close the lid?
[05:10] <No1Viking> How do I change associations, wrong ones in Gnome?
[05:10] <tristanmike> ofer0, ok, use aptitude
[05:10] <mwe> kingspaw1: /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn
[05:10] <simosx> ofer0, Fluendo managed to get a license for MP3 from Faunhoffer (sp?) so that gstreamer can come with MP3 support. Should be there in dapper.
[05:10] <tristanmike> ofer0, no real reason
[05:10] <nazgulwalker> i need java software development kid for amd64 can someone help me ?no?
[05:10] <ofer0> simosx, it's good to know
[05:10] <No1Viking> If I chose that a specific program would start when a specific file was opened, how do I change that?
[05:11] <tom__> im trying to install netbeans, have already installed java re and jsdk, however netbeans wont automatically find my jsdk install when it should anyone got any ideas?? thanx
[05:11] <kingspaw1> mwe: thank you
[05:11] <nazgulwalker> OMG
[05:12] <tom__> anyone??
[05:12] <anto9us> tom__, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:13] <th0rndike> hello all
[05:13] <caitlin> oi oi, hello you lot
[05:13] <buz> hi
[05:13] <buz> i'm trying to install dapper flight 5 over the network
[05:13] <buz> i can boot it just fine but i cant get any modules to load...
[05:13] <buz> it claims modules on the mirrors are newer than my kernel
[05:13] <caitlin> I've got ubuntu running on a laptop and on my desktop. I'm to get tftpd-hpa working, but it doesn't. the web seems to think this is trivial. i can't work out whats wrong
[05:14] <buz> caitlin: i just did that
[05:14] <dman> well ubuntu is detecting my scsi card fine, but not the raided hdds on it
[05:14] <anto9us> No1Viking, right click the document file, select properties and open with
[05:14] <buz> caitlin: apt-get install inetd
[05:14] <mwe> kingspaw1: make a backup of what you change though
[05:14] <buz>  /etc/init.d/inetd start
[05:14] <buz> that should get tftpd working
[05:14] <buz> for some reasons inetd isnt always installed
[05:15] <vax_> hello :)
[05:15] <caitlin> cheers
[05:15] <vax_> hey, how do i start manually internet connection? I'm using adsl via eth0
[05:15] <anto9us> dman, I think you may need to put your /boot somewhere off the raid
[05:15] <caitlin> xinetd do?
[05:16] <caitlin> ace, it started
[05:16] <dman> anto9us this is during the install.
[05:16] <dman> the installer wont see my hdd
[05:16] <dman> hdd(s)
[05:16] <tom__> anyone installed netbeans 5?
[05:16] <Theprimata> i need help to install hp 820Cxi
[05:17] <patrick522> how do i get codecs to play avi and other movie formats on ubuntu
[05:17] <vax_> please
[05:17] <vax_> how do i start manually internet connection?
[05:17] <kfirb_> what's the best way to install a tomcat server on a unbuntu machine?
[05:17] <jayr168> how do I tell ubuntu to detect my Epson Usb printer
[05:17] <anto9us> dman, I've set ubuntu up on a scsi raid before, maybe the kernel doesn't recognise your host card, it needs a boot option perhaps
[05:18] <dman> anto9us dmesg shows it IS loading my host card
[05:18] <anto9us> dman, have you set up a container with your hosts bios?
[05:19] <dman> there is one 'logical' disk created
[05:19] <dman> with my scsi card
[05:19] <soundray> !ff2.0
[05:19] <ubotu> soundray: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:19] <soundray> Just kidding, ubotu.
[05:20] <anto9us> dman, did you set it to check the container, did it complete it?
[05:20] <avi_> P2P
[05:21] <avi_> any one use DC++?
[05:21] <avi_> P2P
[05:21] <westymatt> anyone use ubuntu PPC?
[05:22] <dman> anto9us what do you mean
[05:23] <patrick522> why cant i play video files in ubuntu
[05:23] <root_> how do I make apt-get connect to many parallel servers ?
[05:23] <anto9us> dman, well, maybe your host card doesn't have this feature but it may need to verify the logical drive you've created, it may have a status field to indicate it
[05:24] <dman> yeah
[05:24] <dman> the logical drive is fine
[05:24] <dman> hell the gentoo install can see it, as i tested before
[05:24] <dman> but i need to use ubuntu in this situation
[05:24] <kasslern> where can i find a ubuntu image file for co-linux?
[05:25] <dman> at this point it seems theres nothing i can do
[05:25] <kimo> how do I make apt-get connect to many parallel servers ?
[05:26] <Celeste> hi
[05:26] <yodax> Hi, i have a problem. My network speed is maxed at 300kb. I tried differnt NIC's already. I read on the net that it might by kernel 2.6 related. Anyone have any idea's?
[05:26] <Celeste> Can I get KDE work on UBUNTU as good as it does on Kubuntu?
[05:26] <kasslern> Celeste yes
[05:26] <jonathan`> This isn't an ubuntu question perse, but it could partially relate to linux, and I can't seem to get into the general linux channel for some reason -- we're setting up a megaraid dell server at work and we're installing apache, php, mysql, and oracle on it, and I'm just curious what the best linux OS to use for that type of thing might be -- i know php apache and mysql are really easy to setup, but oracle can be kind of a pain I'd assume, so I
[05:26] <kasslern> just install it
[05:27] <anto9us> dman maybe this will help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid?
[05:27] <Polak> czesc polsko
[05:27] <kasslern> jonathan` try rhel if you want a server
[05:27] <yggdrasil> !restricted
[05:27] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:28] <yggdrasil> domo origato mr ubotu
[05:29] <kimo> I read I shouldn't use automatix, how can I get all the 'extras' easily ?
[05:29] <markitoxs> hello
[05:30] <markitoxs> i got a problem, user root can't run X programs
[05:30] <markitoxs> or even a normal user with sudo
[05:30] <kimo> markitoxs: open a new terminal & type: xhost +localhost
[05:30] <Rubin> eww dont do that
[05:31] <markitoxs> it?
[05:31] <markitoxs> should i or not?
[05:31] <Rubin> no... theres a better way
[05:31] <kasslern> could someone with a working backports, non-free and base dapper repositorys send it to me?
[05:31] <markitoxs> the point is that i can't even open gnome with root
[05:31] <idefix__> yihaaaa!! my PC is 6x faster than first!! YEAH BABY!!
[05:31] <markitoxs> it stacks
[05:31] <Rubin> markitoxs: copy /home/youraccount/.Xauthority to /root
[05:31] <markitoxs> ummm
[05:32] <Rubin> kimo: that command you said gives every account on the box access to sniff your passwords
[05:32] <solid_liq> what's better, postfix or exim4?
[05:32] <Rubin> solid_liq: its objective
[05:32] <Rubin> or i mean, subjective :)
[05:32] <kimo> markitoxs: xhost is ok, if you're not on a network (i.e. home user)
[05:32] <kasslern> could someone post me a copy of their sources.list ?
[05:32] <kimo> kasslern: I want it too :)
[05:33] <solid_liq> for a home mail server, what would you guys recommend?
[05:33] <markitoxs> i did what rubins said
[05:33] <markitoxs> and it works
[05:33] <jbroome> courier-imap and postfix
[05:33] <solid_liq> jbroome: any particular reason for that choice?
[05:33] <markitoxs> rubins why did that file could have changed?
[05:34] <iGadget> Does anyone know if there are known problems with certain types of dvd-rom players or chipsets in combination with dapper flight5?
[05:34] <solid_liq> I tried setting up Hula, but it seems too flaky
[05:34] <Rubin> markitoxs: it didnt change. that file contains a magic 'cookie' that x knows, so x can tell when programs connect to it that they are authorized
[05:34] <markitoxs> thx anyway kimo ,
[05:34] <Rubin> markitoxs: all the x apps just look in the $HOME for it, and since root has a different home, it didnt see it
[05:34] <markitoxs> but
[05:34] <markitoxs> i always have been able to do a sudo gedit
[05:35] <Dunix> bonjour j'ai un probleme concernant mon disque dur
[05:35] <markitoxs> and since 2 days.. no way
[05:35] <Rubin> i'm not sure what changed markitoxs
[05:35] <Dunix> sorry
[05:35] <IcemanV9> iGadget: go over to #ubuntu+1 (dapper support)
[05:35] <Rubin> maybe theres another way it used to work, but thats always how i fix that
[05:35] <iGadget> IcemanV9: ok, thanks
[05:35] <markitoxs> oh
[05:35] <markitoxs> thx anyway Rubin
[05:36] <markitoxs> i thought it was because i installed Automatix
[05:36] <johannesen> hi, I need sablecc-3.x for dapper, but I can see there is only 2.x in the list... is there some other repositories I could use to get it?
[05:38] <gamma> does rhythmbox ipod support actually work?
[05:38] <gamma> i can read the ipod, but it doesn't seem possible to add or delete anything
[05:38] <IcemanV9> johannesen: unforunately, no. there are no 3.x in repos.
[05:40] <johannesen> IcemanV9: ok, why is that so? there is a stable version at www.sablecc.org - do some debian sites have it, perhaps? ... I guess I just download the jar and manage from there
[05:41] <IcemanV9> johannesen: i don't know. maybe after the dapper release? sorry, not much help. :(
[05:42] <johannesen> IcemanV9: thanks anyway ;)
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> My trash applet seems to be confused (Gnome).  It shows it as being full, mouseover claims 2 items, but there's nothing in it, and I've emptied it multiple times.  What's up?
[05:43] <plbgnr> hello, does anyone here have experiences with installing request tracker on apache2? ...I have problems with mod_perl2 (package  libapache2-mod-perl2 )  ..apache is immediately after start shutted down and in log is this "Can't locate Apache2.pm in @INC..." ..I found out that paths in @INC are for older mod_perl ...his newer version does install Apache2.pm elsewhere ...can anyone help with this?
[05:44] <idefix__> which programming languages work under windows, which under linux and which under both?
[05:44] <kasslern> how do i use the force loop-breat option in apt-get?
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> plbgnr: You might be able to work around it with a symlink.
[05:44] <kasslern> ideasrex java works on almost anything, even microwaves
[05:45] <anstei> idefix__, as long as there is a compiler/parser, it works :)
[05:45] <th0rndike> ;p;
[05:45] <kasslern> ideasrex also c and objective c works on most oses
[05:45] <anstei> kasslern, be careful with auto-completion :)
[05:45] <th0rndike> the difference is that u can use the code and compile it in win or in linux
[05:46] <th0rndike> instead the .class that java generates works everywhere
[05:46] <MatDemon> oi
[05:46] <gU1g4> ae
[05:46] <gU1g4> blz??
[05:46] <kasslern> http://lists.debian.org/deity/2000/04/msg00014.html i have the same problem as this!
[05:46] <MatDemon> naum
[05:46] <al5a> cu
[05:46] <gU1g4> aff
[05:46] <gU1g4> oia o do grabriel
[05:46] <gU1g4> ] hitmon timo go to fender
[05:46] <al5a> oia o q?
[05:46] <MatDemon> canal
[05:47] <MatDemon> aff
[05:47] <MatDemon> que nubs
[05:47] <gU1g4> ei q tah fala ae
[05:47] <MatDemon> ow
[05:47] <plbgnr> ok I'll try ...
[05:47] <MatDemon> alguem joga thecrims
[05:47] <plbgnr> tonyyarusso:ok I'll try ...
[05:47] <MatDemon> hello
[05:47] <gU1g4> qm aki eh brasileiro
[05:47] <gU1g4> Hi
[05:47] <al5a> hello
[05:47] <soundray> !br
[05:47] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:47] <netpython> hello there
[05:47] <MatDemon> wattttth youyoyu namememem?
[05:47] <gU1g4> ho hears from brazil???
[05:48] <soundray> !br
[05:48] <al5a> you are a son of a bhit
[05:48] <kimo> I enabled all sources & cant find 'flash' player ??
[05:48] <gU1g4> hello
[05:48] <MatDemon> mother fuck
[05:48] <gU1g4> how are you??
[05:48] <gU1g4> canal
[05:48] <netpython> awsome
[05:48] <al5b> i am fine
[05:48] <al5a> fuck they're
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[05:48] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:49] <gU1g4> rsrsrs
[05:49] <kimo> !flasg
[05:49] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kimo
[05:49] <kimo> !flash
[05:49] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <MatDemon> sou seu pai
[05:49] <MatDemon> filho
[05:49] <al5a> sun of the bith
[05:49] <redguy> !ops
[05:49] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[05:49] <Stormx2> heya everyone!
[05:49] <netpython> howdy
[05:49] <gU1g4> #@&*!
[05:49] <al5a> fock-you
[05:49] <gU1g4> fuck you
[05:49] <al5a> seu porra
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> !language
[05:49] <ubotu> well, language is please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[05:50] <netpython> coino
[05:50] <Amaranth_> ack, opped the wrong one
[05:50] <administrator> can someone help me?
[05:50] <redguy> !tell administrator about ask
[05:50] <administrator> i have installed steam with wine but i don't know how to start that program
[05:50] <Amaranth_> you shouldn't use the windows administrator account
[05:50] <kmilo> kimo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/flashplayer-mozilla
[05:50] <ompaul> Amaranth_, no worries
[05:51] <administrator> why?
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> administrator: 'wine path-to-the-exe'
[05:51] <redguy> thanks ompaul
[05:51] <Stormx2> administrator: Check where it is installed, there will be a path like "~/.wine/dosdevices/c/Program Files/etc", then you run "wine c:/Program Files/etc"
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> administrator: Security nightmare.
[05:51] <ompaul> np
[05:51] <administrator> ok
[05:51] <Stormx2> Stormx2: Or just run off a path
[05:53] <idefix__> what's API?
[05:54] <caitlin> cheers for you help guys
[05:54] <[LS] Czav> when creating a partition to install ubuntu on, what filesystem should I use?
[05:54] <redguy> AFAIR it is Application Programming Interface. Look in wikipedia
[05:54] <kimo> kmilo: thnx :)
[05:54] <administrator> when i put to console 'wine iTunesSetup.exe this says module not ofund so what to do??
[05:54] <redguy> idefix__: ^^
[05:54] <administrator> found*
[05:55] <georgy> redguys : ext3 or reiserfs
[05:55] <administrator> wine steam.ink
[05:55] <beerockxs> how can I give eclipse more memory?
[05:55] <redguy> georgy: huh?
[05:55] <redguy> !tell georgy about nicktab
[05:55] <patrick522> why cant i play .wmv videos
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> redguy: georgy meant that for [LS] Czav
[05:56] <administrator> how to use search
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> [LS] Czav: ext3 or reiserfs
[05:56] <idefix__> too bad Jason isn't there... why isn't it possible yet to leave messages with X-Chat ?
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> idefix__: How is it now possible?
[05:56] <defiant> Alguien espaol?
[05:56] <denis_> no  franais
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> *not even
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> !es
[05:57] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:57] <disk0dav3> Hello - anyone know if Breezy supports 3Ware 9550SX? I'm getting "no disk drives found" even after I choose the 3w-9xxx driver.
[05:57] <defiant> ok
[05:57] <defiant> ciao
[05:57] <redguy> idefix__: it is possible to leave messages with memoserv if you are a registered with freenode
[05:58] <patrick522> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME I CANT PLAY .WMV files
[05:58] <tristanmike> !caps
[05:58] <ubotu> methinks caps is FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[05:58] <redguy> tonyyarusso: is it something funny going on with my screen or did georgy make an odd typo?
[05:58] <patrick522> sorry
[05:58] <venox> patrick522, there's a good wiki page about it ;)
[05:58] <tristanmike> !tell patrick522 about restricted
[05:58] <redguy> !tell patrick522 about restricted
[05:58] <venox> can anybody read me?!
[05:58] <redguy> venox: yes
[05:58] <bet0x> how i can record my desktop?
[05:59] <redguy> bet0x: explain "record"
[05:59] <georgy> redguy : Wrong name on question
[05:59] <bet0x> i want a movie of my desktop
[05:59] <bet0x> a video
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> redguy: Yeah, wrong name, and bad nick complete, combined.
[06:00] <kmilo> bet0x, vnc2swf
[06:00] <tristanmike> bet0x, CamStudio maybe  http://sourceforge.net/projects/camstudio/
[06:00] <Howitzer> hintswen, i use the option ls -shU  lot, and i wondered if i could make it a 'command' like ls itself,
[06:00] <neurosis> ubuntu doesnt come with a c compiler installed?? which is reccomended?
[06:00] <Howitzer> like typin lsk i get 'ls -shU
[06:01] <Howitzer> neuro_, build-essential
[06:01] <bet0x> kmilo, im on the desktop, i want take a movie, not a screenshot, you got the idea?
[06:01] <bet0x> i dont have webcam
[06:01] <redguy> bet0x: try using google
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> bet0x: Movie of the desktop?  Istanbul.
[06:01] <administrator> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO INSTALL SATA DRIVER
[06:01] <tristanmike> bet0x, camstudio doesn't use a webcame, please read the link first
[06:02] <venox> Howdy125, you can create a simple shellscript for it. like: echo "#!/bin/sh\nls -shU $*" > /usr/bin/lsk ; chmod a+x /usr/bin/lsk
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> bet0x: Or vnc2swf, or vncrec, and there are a few others.
[06:02] <tristanmike> bet0x, "CamStudio records activity from your screen and audio from a microphone into AVI video files and can also convert the AVIs into Streaming Flash videos (SWFs) using its built-in SWF Producer."
[06:02] <kmilo> tristanmike, Operating System: 32-bit MS Windows (NT/2000/XP)
[06:03] <administrator> how to install sata driver
[06:03] <kmilo> bet0x, http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/gnomine2.html
[06:03] <redguy> administrator: which chipset do you have?
[06:03] <tristanmike> kmilo, hmmmm....has google.com/linux led me astray ?
[06:03] <administrator> 7
[06:03] <patrick522> still cant get wmv files to work wat the command
[06:03] <redguy> administrator: can you be more descriptive?
[06:03] <idefix__> redguy, how do I register?
[06:04] <mario> hi
[06:04] <bet0x> that come with ubuntu?
[06:04] <administrator> i have that driver cd in my drive so how to start that cd
[06:04] <mario> eres  mas  tonto  hi
[06:04] <kmilo> tristanmike, al least is free sofwtare
[06:04] <redguy> idefix__: /msg nickserv help will tell you everything
[06:04] <_sHaDe> ciao
[06:04] <tristanmike> kmilo, today is a sad day :(
[06:05] <administrator> do somebody know how to start driver cd
[06:05] <redguy> administrator: does that cd contain drivers for linux?
[06:05] <administrator> they are .exe
[06:05] <redguy> administrator: they are not for linux then
[06:05] <kachi> hi
[06:06] <administrator> so can i find linux drivers from internet
[06:06] <redguy> administrator: which chipset do you have?
[06:06] <administrator> how can i see that
[06:06] <__^GoUsT^__> hi tehere
[06:06] <__^GoUsT^__> there
[06:06] <LinuxJones> Can anybody recommend a IDE for Python that has code completion ?
[06:06] <dv_> what about eric3?
[06:06] <redguy> administrator: check your motherboard manual
[06:07] <__^GoUsT^__> can anyone tell me where to download the source code for ubuntu
[06:07] <__^GoUsT^__> ???
[06:07] <administrator> give me and example wahat could it be so then i may know that
[06:07] <administrator> what*
[06:07] <administrator> visraid.sys
[06:07] <dv_> LinuxJones, http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3.html
[06:07] <administrator> can you tell me an example
[06:08] <neurosis> is there a command to get info on a package before installing it?
[06:08] <__^GoUsT^__> can anyone tell me where to download the source code for ubuntu
[06:08] <redguy> administrator: nforce n3 is an example
[06:08] <LinuxJones> dv_: checking it out now thanks
[06:08] <jvillodr> hola
[06:08] <jvillodr> hhugijhg
[06:08] <administrator> my motherboard is abit kv8
[06:08] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <bet0x> People, Say Hello, im recording a Video :P
[06:09] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <jvillodr> interesante
[06:09] <bet0x> omg, stupid, stop the flood
[06:09] <topyli> __^GoUsT^__: archive.ubuntu.com. btw, your nick sucks, it's not fun to type
[06:09] <administrator> socket 754
[06:09] <redguy> administrator: wait a sec
[06:09] <__^GoUsT^__> ok
[06:09] <tristanmike> bet0x, what program did you end up using ?
[06:09] <ILIJA> now
[06:09] <bet0x> vnc2swf
[06:09] <ILIJA> ots ok
[06:09] <topyli> thanks
[06:09] <ILIJA> thats my nam
[06:09] <bet0x> that use a vncserver
[06:09] <bet0x> nice stuff
[06:09] <ompaul> !enter
[06:09] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:10] <topyli> ILIJA: if you mean redhat-style source cd-roms, i don't think there are any
[06:10] <ompaul> lower case is cooler, but what would I know
[06:10] <jonathan`> bet0x, that records whatever's on screen and puts it into an swf or something?
[06:10] <bet0x> yes jonathan`
[06:10] <kmilo> bet0x, HELLO
[06:11] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[06:11] <patrick522> i need help please can some one tell how to get .wmv to work on ubuntu
[06:11] <patrick522> type the code if pos
[06:11] <redguy> administrator: kv8-max3, kv8-pro ?
[06:11] <tristanmike> !tell patrick522 about restricted
[06:11] <tristanmike> patrick522, read your pm
[06:11] <georgy> patrick : install w32codecs
[06:12] <redguy> patrick522: read the wiki link ubotu pm'ed you
[06:12] <administrator> w8
[06:12] <patrick522> cheers all
[06:12] <administrator> just kv8
[06:12] <ILIJA> topyli where can i find some others
[06:12] <bet0x> :D
[06:12] <dman> can i install ubuntu from another live-cd
[06:12] <topyli> ILIJA: sources for other distros?
[06:13] <ILIJA> yes
[06:13] <topyli> ILIJA: debian sources are the most available, and they have pretty much every piece of free software there is
[06:13] <ILIJA> ok thx anyway
[06:14] <wwallace_lap> is this the distroa millionare patronizes?
[06:14] <wwallace_lap> how good is it?
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Amazing.
[06:14] <ompaul> wwallace_lap, priceless
[06:14] <topyli> wwallace_lap: it's ok :)
[06:14] <ILIJA> there are some editors where can i find it
[06:14] <wwallace_lap> how ok?
[06:15] <ompaul> wwallace_lap, try it you'll like it
[06:15] <topyli> ILIJA: editors? there are dozens of them. vim and emacs are the biggies
[06:15] <redguy> administrator: are you sure that you have sata disabled?
[06:15] <ILIJA> where can i find him
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> wwallace_lap: Well, it's got the top of distrowatch, so there must be something good about it.
[06:15] <administrator> if i connect my sata hd to computer this linux won't start
[06:15] <topyli> ILIJA: him? i thought you were talking about text editors :)
[06:15] <ompaul> wwallace_lap, you bothered to ask what can I tell ya :)
[06:15] <ILIJA> yes my english is not werry well
[06:16] <ILIJA> im from macedonia sorry
[06:16] <topyli> ILIJA: don't be sorry, i'm sure it's a great country
[06:16] <wwallace_lap> tonyyarusso: i asked the same qu in another channel how ubuntu is first ? they say cause hes go a millionare behind it pumping money to it
[06:16] <ILIJA> yes
[06:16] <ILIJA> its great
[06:16] <topyli> ILIJA: bad english is the official language here :)
[06:16] <redguy> administrator: sorry I can't help you with it. Maybe somebody else in here can
[06:16] <ILIJA> lol
[06:17] <administrator> ok
[06:17] <ILIJA> so where can i download that text editor
[06:17] <lasindi> I messed with the fonts on my machine (installed Microsoft TrueType fonts) and now Emacs looks completely crazy: http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8193/emacsshot4hn.png If I switch to the "standard 16-dot medium" font, it works again. However, this font is rather ugly, and I really would like the default font back (which it now claims isn't there anymore). What might I have done wrong, and what could I do to fix it?
[06:17] <redguy> !tell ILIJA about synaptic
[06:17] <redguy> !tell ILIJA about repos
[06:17] <redguy> ILIJA: read the wiki articles ubotu sent you
[06:18] <ompaul> wwallace_lap, why not go to the site see the screen shots get a live CD and try it and then get the install CD and use it
[06:18] <topyli> ILIJA: emacs from gnu.org. it's best to use the software your linux distro will provide
[06:18] <ILIJA> ok thx
[06:18] <topyli> ILIJA: perhaps you were not talking about source code after all, but just want to get the linux system?
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> wwallace_lap: Well, besides just the money, there's a very strong community base and lots of great developers, testers, and support working together, and I think that comes out more important than the money.  Try a Live CD and see what you think for yourself.  I came from Windows XP to Hoary (then Breezy, soon Dapper), and I love it.
[06:18] <ILIJA> im new i dont know so much
[06:19] <topyli> ILIJA: you want to put linux on your computer?
[06:19] <ILIJA> yes i want to put it and to translate the code to my langage
[06:19] <ILIJA> to try
[06:19] <ILIJA> to translate
[06:19] <cA1mAn> hello, what filesystem would you recommend for normal desktop use? XFS, ext3 or reiserFS?
[06:19] <topyli> ILIJA: great!
[06:19] <wwallace_lap> ok bye guys
[06:19] <wwallace_lap> enjoy your distro
[06:19] <ILIJA> so can any one help me
[06:19] <ILIJA> and teach woh
[06:19] <ILIJA> how
[06:20] <wwallace_lap> bye
[06:20] <topyli> ILIJA: yes the ubuntu hackers will be happy to help
[06:20] <ILIJA> wow
[06:20] <ILIJA> thx
[06:20] <ILIJA> so where can i start
[06:20] <topyli> ILIJA: ask on #ubuntu-motu
[06:21] <ILIJA> ok
[06:22] <ILIJA> noone live there
[06:23] <edward_> hey, how to update from 5.04 > 5.10? where can i find the commands..?
[06:23] <topyli> ILIJA: oh. damn slackers :)
[06:23] <K-Zodron> Hello, anyone knows if there's is a good free IDE (incl. compiler) for linux that is easy to use? [c++] 
[06:23] <kfirb> how do I verify MD5 file integrity using cfv
[06:23] <redguy> !tell edward_ about upgrade
[06:23] <kfirb> ?
[06:23] <edward_> redguy,  thx
[06:23] <redguy> edward_: np
[06:23] <jmp_me> macedonian ohhheh
[06:24] <patrix> K-Zodron, kdevelop and a million others... the compiler is seperate from the IDE btw, it's called gcc (gnu compiler collection)
[06:24] <cA1mAn> hello, what filesystem would you recommend for normal desktop use? XFS, ext3 or reiserFS?
[06:24] <jmp_me> g++
[06:24] <bsdfox> reiserfs
[06:24] <sfar-ubu> how to search for package (with apt-get?) in terminal
[06:24] <bsdfox> xfs is good too
[06:24] <jmp_me> apt-cache search
[06:24] <K-Zodron> ye but like in the IDE you can easily hit "compile" or similar instead of using 10 commands? ;p
[06:24] <redguy> sfar-ubu: apt-cahce search
[06:25] <sfar-ubu> thx
[06:25] <georgy> sfar-ubu : apt-cache search package
[06:25] <redguy> sfar-ubu: what jmp_me said...
[06:25] <patrix> K-Zodron, kdevelop and about a million others
[06:25] <patrix> I only know kdevelop
[06:25] <patrix> monodevelop
[06:25] <patrix> etc
[06:25] <K-Zodron> Well I'll check kdevelop then ;p
[06:25] <K-Zodron> thanks
[06:25] <ILIJA> so no one can tell me how to start
[06:25] <ILIJA> to translate the code
[06:25] <redguy> bsdfox: ISTR that xfs keeps a lot of stuff in cache, so without a decent ups xfs is not recommended
[06:26] <tombs> hi all
[06:26] <topyli> ILIJA: i'm trying to find a good mailing list you could write
[06:26] <ILIJA> ok
[06:26] <ILIJA> i will be here
[06:26] <Psih0MAN> hello! i'm using ubuntu and i bought a matlab licence. the instalaltion went well, but i get some errors when i try to start it (about permission denied to libc.so.6 and missing gcc-3.3). can someone help me please!
[06:26] <topyli> ILIJA: join #ubuntu-offtopic, it's this busy
[06:27] <kingspaw1> Psih0MAN: have you done sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[06:27] <topyli> ILIJA: uhh... it's not this busy :)
[06:27] <Psih0MAN> kingspaw1: what is build-essential?
[06:27] <etnoy> Psih0MAN: please post your exact error message
[06:27] <etnoy> Psih0MAN: you can install gcc-3.3 via synaptic
[06:28] <redguy> topyli: indeed for some time I noticed that again #debian has more users than this #gentoo... not to speak about #gentoo... 1000 ppl there!
[06:28] <Psih0MAN> etony.. i vnc to that computer... i cannot copy and paste
[06:29] <neurosis> dumb question, im compiling an eggdrop and it cant find tcl libs. i think tcl is installed but its looking for libtcl.so. i can only find libtcl8.4.so.0. do i just point configure to that file or am i missing something??
[06:29] <Mischevious> how do i set it so i onyl have to enter my pass once per session when using sudo????????/
[06:29] <bet0x> well
[06:29] <bet0x> these vn2 thing
[06:29] <bet0x> its a sheT :P
[06:30] <etnoy> Psih0MAN: okay
[06:30] <etnoy> install build-essential
[06:30] <etnoy> it contains most of the stuff you need to compile programs
[06:32] <Psih0MAN> etony: Matlab is a binary-only package. it is propretary code
[06:32] <sfar-ubu> can someone please help me with this error msg i get when im trying to ./configure deskbar 2.14: http://pastebin.com/616407
[06:32] <Ivaldi> how do I reinitialize my soundcard?
[06:32] <Psih0MAN> etnoy: Matlab is a binary-only package. it is propretary code
[06:34] <th0rndike> whats the equivalent to matlab in free source?
[06:35] <jbroome> bc
[06:35] <gibbster> is there any chance at all that my iso has the right md5sum, but files within it are corrupted?
[06:36] <otvenkettes> hi
[06:36] <mathieu> it's possible, but unlikely
[06:36] <mathieu> unless the original files were corrupted
[06:36] <gibbster> I keep on getting corrupted deb error installing ubuntu, but the iso md5sum is ok
[06:37] <gibbster> I tried burning the disk twice
[06:37] <otvenkettes> how can i empty the buffer of a device? (modem sends some data on ttyUSB0, and i want to drop it)
[06:37] <gibbster> same thing both times
[06:37] <Random_Transit> hey, is there anything similar to ndiswrapper for something other than wireless drivers?
[06:37] <otvenkettes> any idea?
[06:37] <Psih0MAN> etnoy: matlab/bin/util/oscheck.sh: line 134: /lib/libc.so.6: Permission denied
[06:37] <Random_Transit> 'cos I have a scanner that isn't supported in linux, and i thought that if i emulated the driver somehow, i could get it working
[06:38] <gibbster> and it's driving me up the wall...
[06:38] <redguy> Psih0MAN: hmm why not ask Matlab people then?
[06:39] <redguy> Random_Transit: I doubt it
[06:39] <Psih0MAN> redguy: because it's about the system it's running on
[06:39] <jbritz22> hey all
[06:39] <jbritz22> im getting this error
[06:39] <jbritz22> GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
[06:40] <redguy> Psih0MAN: but they might give a clue what this error refers to
[06:40] <Mischevious> can anyone tell me why rhythmbox won't play any files.. but xmms will
[06:40] <johnshaft> Hi all
[06:41] <kfirb> gibster: how do yo check the md5 sum?
[06:41] <redguy> Psih0MAN: come on, did you even try to google?
[06:41] <redguy> Psih0MAN: http://www.google.com/search?q=matlab/bin/util/oscheck.sh%3A+line+134%3A+/lib/libc.so.6%3A+Permission+denied&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[06:41] <redguy> Psih0MAN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MATLAB
[06:41] <|RiK|> I have trouble to connect with firefox and gaim, not Xchat
[06:42] <espresso> help! I broke my web server
[06:42] <johnshaft> I'm having trouble getting my laptop to suspend when the lid is closed. Nothing happens unless I do a manual suspend ( through gnome ) first. Then suspend will work whenever I close the lid. Any ideas?
[06:42] <graveson> i am receiving an error when using audacity "there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer"
[06:43] <Psih0MAN> redguy: thank you!
[06:43] <redguy> Psih0MAN: please use google before asking next time
[06:44] <sfar-ubu> *asking again* can someone please help me with this error msg i get when im trying to ./configure deskbar 2.14: http://pastebin.com/616407
[06:44] <sfar-ubu> i have the latest build-essentials and gtk+2
[06:45] <graveson> using k3b i am trying to copy a dvd and i am receiving the error that the dvd is encrypted.how can i copy this dvd ?
[06:45] <jbritz22> how do I add the debian repo to my sources list?
[06:46] <redguy> jbritz22: you dont
[06:47] <kmilo> jbritz22, why?
[06:47] <jbritz22> on this one forum
[06:47] <jbritz22> they say to add
[06:47] <jbritz22> deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free restricted to the sources
[06:47] <jbritz22> except it doesnt work
[06:47] <Mischevious> hmm it seems esd crashed
[06:47] <redguy> jbritz22: which forum?
[06:48] <kmilo> jbritz22, why you need debian rep?
[06:48] <jbritz22> to install apt-get install sun-j2se5.0-jre-binary
[06:48] <redguy> !javadebs
[06:48] <redguy> !javadebs
[06:48] <idefix__> where is the directory in which I can add directory's when I use "save as"?
[06:48] <Gnumannen> !synaptic
[06:48] <ubotu> I heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:49] <dv_> hm it seems that xorg 7.1 wont make it into dapper
[06:49] <redguy> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:49] <bet0x> gnome-theme-manager crash with XGL
[06:49] <bet0x> when i change of theme
[06:49] <dv_> so one has to set it up manually
[06:49] <tabber> anyone using an ati radeon xpress 200M?
[06:49] <redguy> !tell jbritz22 about java
[06:49] <dv_> does that mean that the nvidia driver has to be installed manually too?
[06:50] <tabber> ?
[06:50] <espresso> I accidentally deleted a couple files that I need to run my apache server... does anyone have a close-to-new apache setup?
[06:50] <diogo> Greetings! I've just installed a fresh 'server' install and now I'm looking for a lightweight X environment. I was thinking about xubuntu-desktop but I guess installing only 'xfce4' will do. Does it install a login manager as well?
[06:50] <jbritz22> redguy I have the latest version of java installed, but I get this error when trying to run azureus, http://pastebin.com/616453
[06:51] <espresso> diogo, what do you plan to do with it?
[06:51] <s_spiff{AWAY}> which is the latest version of java?
[06:51] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  1.4 right?
[06:51] <dman> 1.5
[06:51] <espresso> if it's a server install, are you intending on using it as a server?
[06:51] <redguy> jbritz22: update-alternatives --config java
[06:51] <halibut> Is there any way I can limit the upload bandwidth of a certain application?
[06:51] <highvoltage> s_spiff{AWAY}: depends which java :)
[06:51] <redguy> jbritz22: and select the sun version
[06:51] <tabber> anyone using an ati radeon xpress 200M?
[06:52] <Enthusiast78> espresso I just need X to run Gaim (if I don't figure out how to use CenterICQ with SOCKS) and maybe firefox...
[06:52] <s_spiff{AWAY}> highvoltage, umm?
[06:52] <s_spiff{AWAY}> highvoltage, how many 'java's are there?
[06:52] <Enthusiast78> espresso I'd like to keep on the console and only do 'startx' when really needed...
[06:52] <Mischevious> amarok is the shit.
[06:52] <jbritz22> redguy, I get the same error
[06:52] <espresso> oh...
[06:53] <espresso> you might try evilwm
[06:53] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Mischevious, i found amarok quite good compared wo all other players...
[06:53] <Enthusiast78> espresso : evilwm?
[06:53] <espresso> no icons, no menus, no nothing
[06:53] <Mischevious> s_spiff{AWAY}, yea i like it alot.
[06:53] <jbritz22> redguy, it doesnt switch
[06:53] <Enthusiast78> espresso : Hmmm... Sounds cool...
[06:53] <espresso> Enthusiast78: I don't know much about it, but someone showed it to me once
[06:53] <redguy> jbritz22: try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:53] <espresso> it's a windowing system, but all you see is the desktop
[06:54] <SiriusA> hi there, i got xgl running under KDE... all work fine but my taskbar doesnt show me any open windows... any suggestions why? (gnome-decorator)
[06:54] <espresso> to do anything, you right-click on the desktop and go through the menus... or you assign hotkeys
[06:54] <Enthusiast78> espresso : Then you launch things from the console into it?
[06:54] <espresso> yep
[06:54] <Enthusiast78> espresso : Hmmm...
[06:54] <jbritz22> redguy, the plus is still staying beside the 3
[06:54] <st3v3dnd> hey all, is there any way to prevent certain users from being able to reboot the machine?
[06:54] <espresso> Enthusiast78: I term into my ubuntu server through my suse desktop
[06:55] <Enthusiast78> espresso : Do you believe it's the lightest wm there is?
[06:55] <s_spiff{AWAY}> guys is there a way to set a ip add [ multiple ip add's]  using windows in wine [ linux ]  ?
[06:55] <espresso> Enthusiast78: I really don't know
[06:55] <redguy> jbritz22: hmm did you follow the azureus howto on ubuntu wiki?
[06:55] <jbritz22> !azureus
[06:55] <espresso> I'm firmly attached to KDE, so I haven't personally explored much else
[06:55] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:55] <espresso> although gnome seemed to run really light
[06:55] <stewski> whats the recommended tv application for ubuntu
[06:55] <kmilo> jbritz22, http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/misc/blackdown-j2sdk1.4debian
[06:55] <s_spiff{AWAY}> jbritz22, i suggest u go to the forums and check out the how to..its much better
[06:56] <espresso> Enthusiast78: sorry I couldn't be of much more help
[06:56] <Howitzer> When i try *alias ls='ls -Uhs'*, it doesn't work :/
[06:56] <Enthusiast78> espresso : Thanks anyway. I used to be firmly attached to KDE as well, but I'm getting back to my console roots now... :)
[06:56] <espresso> I would suggest that if you are truly running a server, that you don't install a windowing system on it at all... get a second PC for that
[06:56] <redguy> stewski: hmm, none recommended, since tv is bad for you. But you can try tvtime
[06:57] <redguy> Howitzer: where did you put it?
[06:57] <Howitzer> eh
[06:57] <redguy> Howitzer: the alias I mean
[06:57] <Howitzer> home dir
[06:57] <Howitzer> ehh
[06:57] <Howitzer> nowhere
[06:57] <redguy> Howitzer: ?
[06:57] <Howitzer> just typed it into the term
[06:58] <Howitzer> at home directory
[06:58] <stewski> tvtimes giving me probs on dapper
[06:58] <stewski> green screen
[06:58] <redguy> !dapper
[06:58] <Howitzer> hmm
[06:58] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:58] <Howitzer> now it does work untill i close the terminal
[06:58] <redguy> Howitzer: hmm it should work then
[06:58] <jbritz22> ok i followed the wiki
[06:58] <kingspaw1> Howitzer: put it in your .bashrc file in the home dir
[06:58] <Howitzer> oooh
[06:58] <Howitzer> bashrc
[06:58] <jbritz22> stil get Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3139 in java.library.path
[06:58] <rainbowjoshua> Anyone here gotten Ubuntu installed on a SATA drive?
[06:58] <Howitzer> thought bash_profile
[06:58] <redguy> .bash_profile
[06:59] <kingspaw1> Howitzer: that should work too
[06:59] <react-> rainbowjoshua: yes
[06:59] <jbritz22> java version "1.5.0_06"
[06:59] <jbritz22> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[06:59] <jbritz22> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:59] <jbritz22> im all updated and everything
[07:00] <rainbowjoshua> react-: I'm having a hard time with it.  I was trying to get it to join my IDE (which has a rather defuct failed Dapper on it, but important data), and now I've got that drive disconnected, just trying to get Breezy into the SATA alone.
[07:00] <rainbowjoshua> No matter how I install, the install finishes, and I get NON SYSTEM DISK ERROR.
[07:00] <redguy> jbritz22: did you really follow it? so you do have libswt-gtk-3.1-java installed, right?
[07:00] <stewski> anyone know what the gstreamer config tool is called
[07:01] <Howitzer> ffs
[07:01] <jbritz22> how can I remove java and reinstall it?
[07:01] <Howitzer> it still doesn't work
[07:02] <Howitzer> ls still is the same
[07:02] <TylerWalts> y
[07:03] <redguy> jbritz22: do have libswt-gtk-3.1-java installed?
[07:03] <jbritz22> redguy, how do I check
[07:03] <yohan> i just updated my kernel and i tried installing the new alsa drivers cause my sound doesnt work...when i try to install with checkinstall i get this error: rc4_1.0.11rc4-1_i386.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.14-ck1/kernel/sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mp
[07:03] <yohan> u401.ko', which is also in package kernel-image-2.6.14-ck1
[07:03] <yohan> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[07:03] <yohan> Errors were encountered while processing: /home/yohan/temp/alsa-driver-1.0.11rc4/alsa-driver-1.0.11rc4_1.0.11rc4-1_i386.d
[07:03] <TylerWalts> apt-get remove java?
[07:03] <yohan> eb
[07:03] <yohan> what should i do?
[07:03] <digitalhav0c> yay i got ubuntu installed inside vmware YAY!!!
[07:03] <digits> non ubuntu related: can somebody tell me what "diminutive form" mean in as simple words as possible? ;)
[07:03] <yohan> can i force it somehow, or is that a bad idea?
[07:04] <yohan> please someone :/
[07:04] <redguy> jbritz22: sudo apt-get install libcommons-cli-java liblog4j1.2-java libseda-java libswt-gtk-3.1-java
[07:04] <digits> i'm not english
[07:04] <redguy> jbritz22: though you have it all. you followed the howto, right?
[07:04] <react-> rainbowjoshua: are you sure you have your bios set to boot off the correct HD?
[07:04] <jbritz22> redguy, yessir, i removed everything now im reinstalling we will see if that fixes it
[07:05] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[07:05] <vax_> hello
[07:05] <jbritz22> redguy, stillgetting the error
[07:05] <jbritz22> redguy, and everythings installed
[07:06] <rainbowjoshua> react-: Well, the BIOS has very few options for the SATA.  It just assigns the SATA to the IDE interface, it seems.  The only other options are to disable it or to assign it to RAID.
[07:06] <Dark_pahnt0m> I need 2 re-downlaod cedega.. How do I get the trial too work??  I have installed it & get errors & it wont run
[07:07] <TheFuzzball> hello all
[07:07] <Enthusiast78> espresso : Hmmm... I think evilwm needs X to run (but it's not on it's package dependencies...)
[07:07] <kane77> hi... can you help me... how do I make my network device start (activate) at startup??? it used to start but then I edited some config file (don't know which) and now it doesn't and I have to start it manually from networking menu...
[07:07] <Enthusiast78> espresso : I was like 'yuppie' when aptitude told me it required less than 1Mb to install it.
[07:07] <graveson> how do i install oss emulation
[07:07] <react-> rainbowjoshua: there should be a option in your bios to set the boot option, ie 1st floppy 2nd cdrom 3rd some-harddisk,
[07:07] <ron_> help plz, i am currently in fail safe mode. i formated another partition on my hard drive and told it to use the home directory... now nothing will work :/
[07:08] <sfar-ubu> what does it mean when a package is broken?
[07:08] <kmilo> Bye
[07:08] <react-> rainbowjoshua: make sure you have the SATA disk before any other harddrives
[07:08] <rainbowjoshua> react-: There is, but SATA isn't in there, only IDE hard drive, CDROM, floppy, etc.
[07:08] <Dark_pahnt0m> I need help with cedega.. I will NOT install
[07:08] <react-> rainbowjoshua: what motherboard do you have?
[07:09] <rainbowjoshua> react-: ATI RS480M2  You just gave me the idea, and I'm checking for BIOS updates.
[07:09] <TheFuzzball> does anybody use a programme called Kxdocker?
[07:10] <patrick522> is wine any good
[07:10] <klement> Hi, I just installed ubuntu, but when I run synaptic, update manager or anything that requires root, nothing happens
[07:10] <Dark_pahnt0m> CEDEGA!! I cannot install gives me errors twards end of install
[07:10] <Enthusiast78> patrick522 : Only if you need Window$ API...
[07:10] <redguy> jbritz22: well, somebody else has to help you then. Though I'm sure that a lot of people who followed the howto did not have any trouble
[07:10] <klement> also, in console, sudo <anything> does not do anything
[07:10] <patrick522> wat about running games on wine is it good
[07:11] <Dark_pahnt0m> no
[07:11] <TheFuzzball> use cedega
[07:11] <trappist> the ones that work, work
[07:11] <Dark_pahnt0m> cedega is good if you can GET HELP too insall it
[07:11] <patrick522> is cedga like wine
[07:11] <Dark_pahnt0m> better If You can GET HELP!
[07:11] <klement> does anyone know how to solve this sudo problem?
[07:11] <redguy> women are said to be like wine
[07:12] <patrick522> lol
[07:12] <matthes> i just started using ubuntu linux and am fairly new to linux and i need to know a good virtual desktop program so i can run my windows programs.
[07:12] <patrick522> where can i get cedega
[07:12] <Dark_pahnt0m> yes women dotn age well liek wine though, they become sour & evil
[07:12] <Dark_pahnt0m> CEDEGA!
[07:12] <nova> oi
[07:13] <redguy> Dark_pahnt0m: well wine does get sour given enough time... :-)
[07:13] <Dark_pahnt0m> I am trying too install cedega & get erros HOW do I install??
[07:13] <kane77> hi... can you help me... how do I make my network device start (activate) at startup??? it used to start but then I edited some config file (don't know which) and now it doesn't and I have to start it manually from networking menu... How can I get it back?????
[07:13] <patrick522> where can i get cedega
[07:13] <ferris_> google it
[07:13] <Dark_pahnt0m> www.cedega.com
[07:13] <matthes> google
[07:13] <GTX> all cedega is, is wine
[07:13] <matthes> or that
[07:13] <GTX> waste of money
[07:13] <matthes> lol
[07:13] <mathieu> cedega is more than wine
[07:14] <GTX> not realy
[07:14] <mathieu> yes really
[07:14] <Dark_pahnt0m> OMFG ASKING FOR HELP!!  I cannot get cedega too install
[07:14] <GTX> how is it?
[07:14] <Dark_pahnt0m> you talk about it but ignore me WTF
[07:14] <Profichilla> !patience
[07:14] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[07:15] <Dark_pahnt0m> There are no questions PPL dickin around
[07:15] <Dark_pahnt0m> I dont like being ignored
[07:15] <mathieu> GTX: some proprietary copy protections, more directx support, ...
[07:15] <Dark_pahnt0m> 4 ppl tralking about cedega & I ask quesytion & I get ignored
[07:15] <mathieu> Dark_pahnt0m: did it occur to you that maybe nobody can help you?
[07:16] <ferris_> I have googled for a desktop environment for children, no results, is there a desktop environment for children?
[07:16] <patrix> mathieu, no, we've been put on this earth to serve him immediately when he asks questions ;)
[07:16] <ferris_> like little kids
[07:16] <Enthusiast78> ferris_ edubuntu-desktop?
[07:16] <Dark_pahnt0m> Asking again I am having problems INSTALLING CEDEGA! I get an error twards end of install
[07:16] <ferris_> i have it installed
[07:16] <Dark_pahnt0m> they did before
[07:16] <redguy> ferris_: edubuntu
[07:16] <ferris_> but it is just a gnome desktop
[07:16] <Dark_pahnt0m> this place where I was told abouyt cedega
[07:17] <ferris_> thanks
[07:17] <mathieu> patrix: it seems you're right!
[07:17] <patrix> hehehe
[07:17] <Dark_pahnt0m> you can either goto synaptic & install KDE or you can download kubuntu 7 re-install
[07:17] <patrick522> i dont know anything about cedega
[07:17] <Dark_pahnt0m> &*
[07:17] <patrick522> thats why im gona try it out
[07:18] <mnd> Hum, I was just installin ubuntu (kubuntu actually) and the install fails with "apt-setup-deb failed". Is that critical ?
[07:18] <Dark_pahnt0m> yeah
[07:18] <TheFuzzball> download dapper fight 5 cd
[07:18] <mnd> I've got kubuntu dvd and it says that it was unable to locate any package files
[07:18] <Dark_pahnt0m> if it installs & runs open terminal & type sudo  apt-get install update
[07:19] <mathieu> Dark_pahnt0m: you better stop giving bad advice to everyone
[07:19] <mnd> Dark_pahnt0m: yeah, i presumed that that can be fixed quite easily
[07:19] <Dark_pahnt0m> Suck my nuts its not bad that deb file is needed & can be repaired
[07:19] <Dark_pahnt0m> IDIOT
[07:19] <patrix> wow
[07:20] <matthes> wtf?
[07:20] <Dark_pahnt0m> Mat that file will cause errors later on like any missing file (common sense)
[07:20] <matthes> y cant we all just get along?
[07:20] <matthes> who me?
[07:20] <mathieu> no, me
[07:20] <matthes> o
[07:20] <matthes> ok
[07:21] <mathieu> don't worry :)
[07:21] <TheFuzzball> okay
[07:21] <mnd> hm, maybe there's something wrong with the disc then. Though it said that the disc is okay.
[07:21] <Dark_pahnt0m> because  I dont like being ignored.. Simple quesyion HOW do I get cedega too install using ROOT??
[07:21] <bjornkri> Hey, I'm trying to install Dutch language support, but when I try select the Dutch packages in language selector I get an error: Could not apply changes!
[07:21] <bjornkri>  Fix broken packages first.
[07:21] <bjornkri> Which is not very helpful :\
[07:21] <patrix> Dark_pahnt0m, why don't you go ask on the cedega forums or chats, instead of bothering us with your attitude
[07:21] <TheFuzzball> sudo cedega_installer.sh
[07:21] <mathieu> Dark_pahnt0m: the command you suggested won't help much actually
[07:21] <patrix> I'm sure THEY'll help you if you displa ythe same traits
[07:21] <matthes> im trying 2 download wine but linux is being a butthole
[07:22] <Dark_pahnt0m> I am running kde & can click on file, how do I change the terminal command so I can login as root & install, its asking too be installed in /usr/bin
[07:22] <matthes> *slaps linux*
[07:22] <Dark_pahnt0m> Why dont you f off idiot /ignored
[07:22] <Ivaldi> dude, mellow out
[07:22] <mathieu> matthes: you slap your _kernel_? :)
[07:22] <Mischevious> just ignore him
[07:22] <matthes> yes i did
[07:23] <Ivaldi> :)
[07:23] <matthes> im bored
[07:23] <Ivaldi> Does anyone know how to remove the dialog that pops up every time you insert a blank cd/dvd?
[07:23] <mathieu> matthes: why don't you provoke Dark_pahnt0m, so we have something to watch, then
[07:23] <Dark_pahnt0m> stupid jerk I am asking a question dont need your "opinion on how & where I should ask
[07:23] <matthes> lol
[07:23] <patrix> lol lol lol
[07:23] <ichdasich> hi guis
[07:24] <matthes> hi
[07:24] <mathieu> matthes: i doubt you need to say anything actually
[07:24] <patrix> indeed
[07:24] <patrick522> where can i get a free full version of cedega
[07:24] <patrix> patrick522, compile it yourself :)
[07:24] <mathieu> patrick522: there's no such thing
[07:24] <ichdasich> is it possible to use a atheros pcmcia wlan nic with a ubuntu 5 installcd for the installation?
[07:24] <Dark_pahnt0m> mathie why dont you get your dads winkey out ur butt & not give bad advice too others
[07:24] <trappist> !ops
[07:24] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[07:25] <mathieu> patrix: you can't compile the *full* cedega
[07:25] <patrix> no?
[07:25] <patrick522> how i compile it
[07:25] <Dark_pahnt0m> asking again How do I get cedega too install using root??
[07:25] <patrix> oh right
[07:25] <patrix> the dlls required for copy protectio netc
[07:25] <mathieu> patrix: there's some patented stuff that can't be free in it
[07:25] <patrix> true
[07:25] <izmaelis> anybody uses quod libet here?
[07:26] <bjornkri> Dark_pahnt0m: to run things as root you do 'sudo', Ubuntu doesn't have (an easily accessible) root account.
[07:26] <csgirl> hello, when i watch dvd, it gets stuck, how can i eject it forcely?
[07:26] <rainbowjoshua> react-: I think there is a new version of my BIOS.  I hope it's that simple. The error I'm getting now is GRUB Loading stage1.5 and then Error 2
[07:26] <Dark_pahnt0m> I cant sudo it I am using KDE & I cannot get it too install unless I double click on it
[07:26] <bjornkri> so sudo <installation-executable> I guess.
[07:26] <Dark_pahnt0m> In gnome its saew problem
[07:26] <bjornkri> Can't you do it in terminal?
[07:26] <Dark_pahnt0m> NO!
[07:26] <tristanmike> Dark_pahnt0m, if you're in KDE use "kdesu" instead
[07:26] <nalioth> trappist: yes?
[07:26] <mathieu> hilarious :)
[07:26] <react-> rainbowjoshua: did you change anything to get that new grub error?
[07:26] <venox> csgirl, you can't. you have to right click the desktop icon for the dvd and eject it.
[07:26] <Dark_pahnt0m> I cant INSTALL does nothing
[07:26] <patrix> lol
[07:26] <_jason> Dark_pahnt0m: open konsole
[07:27] <Dark_pahnt0m> I cant apt-get does nothing
[07:27] <venox> ejecting without unmounting is risky.
[07:27] <patrix> thanks :D
[07:27] <yohan> q/server efnet
[07:27] <rainbowjoshua> react-: Well, I installed like 5 times last night, with different partition situations.  Most of them didn't get to grub, this one does.
[07:27] <rainbowjoshua> react-: I know I've got a small /boot partition
[07:27] <Phinite> I'm just updating from hoary to breezy and need to install bugzilla on the box.  is the apt-get version good, or should I build myself?
[07:27] <csgirl> venox: yes ,I try to ,but it fails ,the icon disappears, but disk still in it
[07:27] <bjornkri> !nl
[07:27] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[07:27] <mathieu> csgirl: with fuser -m /media/dvd (or whatever the mount point is) you can check which processes are keeping the dvd busy, in case you can't unmount
[07:28] <bjornkri> hm
[07:28] <react-> rainbowjoshua: is your /boot just ext3?
[07:28] <rainbowjoshua> react-: The installer says so.
[07:28] <mathieu> Phinite: default answer: don't compile from source unless you have good reasons. since you don't have a clue, don't compile from sources
[07:29] <bjornkri> I'm trying to install Dutch language support, but when I try select the Dutch packages in language selector I get an error: Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first. Anyone know what I can do?
[07:29] <VladimirBG> having troubles with gnome's built in cd copy wizard
[07:29] <mathieu> bjornkri: apt-get -f install   IIRC
[07:29] <react-> rainbowjoshua: if it's trying to load grub then i don't think upgrading your bios will help
[07:29] <react-> have you googled that grub error?
[07:29] <axnotizes> part
[07:30] <rainbowjoshua> react-: I'm booting to the CD.  I want to try to get to the /boot partition and see the grub config stuff... I'm not totally sure how.
[07:30] <Phinite> mathieu: hence the question ;)  was wondering if there was a good reason to install from source.  I'll install via apt
[07:30] <mathieu> Phinite: :)
[07:30] <rainbowjoshua> How do I get into recovery mode from the install CD?
[07:31] <nalioth> rainbowjoshua: at the prompt, type rescue
[07:31] <VladimirBG> can anyone help me with natilus's cd writing/coping software?
[07:31] <react-> rainbowjoshua: can't tell you off the top of my head, check the ubuntu website
[07:31] <mathieu> Phinite: stated otherwise: install it the easy way. if it doesn't satisfy you, install from sources.
[07:31] <nalioth> VladimirBG: yes, use something else
[07:31] <rainbowjoshua> nalioth: Thank you.  It doesn't seem to be listed on any of those screens.
[07:31] <VladimirBG> nalioth, isn't there any way to make it work?
[07:32] <davro> how can i scan for network printer, on are lan need the printers ip address
[07:32] <nalioth> VladimirBG: the nautilus built-in burning software is very rudimentary, i suggest k3b, but you may also use gnomebaker or graveman
[07:32] <VladimirBG> nalioth, I really like the simlicity of just rigth-clicking and selecting copy
[07:33] <nalioth> VladimirBG: i don't use it for that reason.
[07:33] <Organs> Wooo.  Ubuntu works for laptops YAY.
[07:33] <VladimirBG> nalioth, well, any help is welcome
[07:34] <nalioth> VladimirBG: did you have a specific question concering that program?
[07:35] <rainbowjoshua> Oooh, rescue mode, cool.
[07:35] <VladimirBG> nalioth, yes, when I try to copy data disc it unmounts the source voulume and displays error , something like no media present
[07:36] <rinke> Hee
[07:36] <rjw-sf> Hey, I had a question if anyone has a second.
[07:36] <VladimirBG> nalioth, and when I tryed to copy an audio disk to an image it took over 30 min and when was finaly done, and when I wanted to burn the image it said something about file not being valid image file
[07:37] <freenode_> Which package do I need to get 'startx'?
[07:37] <nalioth> VladimirBG: i don't have much experience with nautilus cd burner, may i recommend you spend less time using a dedicated burning client?
[07:37] <nalioth> freenode_: xserver-xorg
[07:38] <VladimirBG> nalioth, never mind
[07:38] <VladimirBG> Nakkel, thanks anyway
[07:38] <HedgeMage> This is slightly OT, but does anyhow know how, in thunderbird, to change the contents of the "So-and-so said:" line that prefaces the quoted text of a usenet post one replies to?
[07:38] <VladimirBG> nalioth, thanks anyway
[07:38] <freenode_> nalioth : Strange... It is already installed. :/
[07:38] <nalioth> HedgeMage: there is nobody in ##thunderbird or ##similar ?
[07:38] <rjw-sf> I just installed ubuntu and am trying to add some more software (using the gui) and it keeps telling me both in the repositories and the add apps part: Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'. But I've set http_proxy, and I've set the proxies in the gui... where else do I need to setup my proxy?
[07:39] <_jason> HedgeMage: yes I did it once... it involved an about:config like thing in thunderbird.  I found it on the mozilla forums somewhere
[07:39] <HedgeMage> nalioth: there apparently isn't one... they have it for firefox, but no answer there yet
[07:40] <HedgeMage> _jason: thanks, I tried searching their help and such, I should have thought to try the forums
[07:40] <_jason> HedgeMage: for some reason I have this bookmark: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/tips#beh_downloadstartup , but I do recall having to read something in the forums
[07:40] <nalioth> HedgeMage: i'd think #mozilla would be a better place to ask (since it has mail/browser/etc)
[07:41] <freenode_> What if I just installed xserver-xorg and still can't 'startx' from the console?
[07:41] <K-Zodron> Hi again, I managed to compile a hello world program with gcc :d but how do I run the file? It doesn't seem to start when I doubleclick <.<
[07:41] <_jason> K-Zodron: ./file if you are in the directory where it was created
[07:41] <nalioth> freenode_: type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[07:41] <matthes> im on the wine site but its cunfusing the hell outa me
[07:41] <roico> my samba works only with ip addresses...
[07:42] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : I think I don't have GDM, but let's try...
[07:42] <K-Zodron> _jason : oki doki
[07:42] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: replace it with kdm or w/e your window mangler is
[07:42] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found
[07:42] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : I have only installed xserver-xorg and evilwm
[07:42] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: are you using gnome or kde ?
[07:43] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: ah, i see. install xubuntu-desktop
[07:43] <NegativeSpace> Hi, is it possible to get Shockwave for Firefox?
[07:43] <_jason> NegativeSpace: not on linux
[07:43] <matthes> im on the wine site but its cunfusing the hell outa me
[07:43] <nalioth> matthes: please ask a logical question
[07:43] <NegativeSpace> _jason So if a site requires it... tough?
[07:43] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : Isn't there another way? I would like to have only the minimal Xorg and evilwm installed.
[07:43] <_jason> NegativeSpace: write a letter to macromedia
[07:44] <NegativeSpace> _jason Heh.
[07:44] <_jason> NegativeSpace: http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html
[07:44] <roico> my samba works only with ip addresses...
[07:44] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: you'll need more than an xserver installed
[07:45] <nalioth> TheFuzzball: xubuntu-desktop is a minimal desktop environment that will install all necessary things to run evilwm
[07:45] <rjw-sf> so is there someplace special I need to setup my http_proxy so that gnome-app-install can see it?
[07:45] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : I see. But it will also install xfce4. I'd really like to avoid installing unnecessary things.
[07:46] <rambo3> then just install xfce
[07:46] <ciux> whats the future of the ubuntu distribution?
[07:46] <NegativeSpace> _jason I signed it.
[07:46] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: you need a window manager. install gdm
[07:46] <_jason> NegativeSpace: cool
[07:46] <rambo3> i never install meta packedges , just kde or gnome
[07:46] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : isn't gdm a login manager?
[07:46] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: it is a window manager
[07:47] <venox> gdm?
[07:47] <venox> gdm is a login manager.
[07:47] <venox> hahahah
[07:47] <PyresFlood> Ubuntu  Rocks!  Just as good as Slackware!
[07:47] <venox> slackware sucks.
[07:47] <PyresFlood> I agree
[07:47] <Enthusiast78> PyresFlood : I used to love Slackware, until I found Ubuntu. :)
[07:47] <venox> haha
[07:47] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:47] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:47] <PyresFlood> I think I may be the same
[07:48] <PyresFlood> i am using the live cd right now
[07:48] <NegativeSpace> What's the difference between Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla?
[07:48] <venox> that live cd is crazy
[07:48] <PyresFlood> Firefox is better, less bloat,, all around BETTER!
[07:48] <venox> slow as hell
[07:48] <PyresFlood> I agree
[07:48] <HedgeMage> thanks, _jason found it on the forums
[07:48] <rambo3> difrence is like debian and ubuntu even more
[07:48] <PyresFlood> But the full install is awsome
[07:48] <venox> but, where the livecd puts all the files you download?
[07:48] <PyresFlood> I love how it updates itself
[07:48] <venox> yeah
[07:48] <HedgeMage> don't know why I didn't remember they had them in the first place...
[07:48] <venox> it's nice
[07:48] <PyresFlood> and  you can get apps  with a click
[07:48] <NegativeSpace> Why have Mozilla got the two?
[07:49] <venox> strange things happen on the livecd
[07:49] <deizi> humm i need some plugins/decoders for kaffeine
[07:49] <Enthusiast78> I just know I'd love it even more if I could only get evilwm workin'! :P
[07:49] <PyresFlood> venox,   like how?
[07:50] <beerockxs> why does ubuntu install cron, anacron and atd, when they all basically do the same?
[07:50] <venox> PyresFlood, you can download lots of files, do updates, etc.
[07:50] <mwe> NegativeSpace: firefox is just a different branch. A little like different linux distributions
[07:50] <venox> like, I have only 384mb of RAM on this PC, and 384mb swap
[07:50] <venox> and I downloaded all the updates, about 500mb of files from my other computer, and I really don't know where the livecd put all that files. hahahah
[07:51] <PyresFlood> no swap or anything on this pc with only  lets say  300 mb
[07:51] <PyresFlood> ram
[07:51] <venox> yeah
[07:51] <venox> now see your df -h
[07:51] <venox> the root partition has about 1gb free haha
[07:51] <axnotizes> i have the server version of ubuntu, is automatic update available as well?
[07:51] <venox> (at least that happened here)
[07:51] <NegativeSpace> mwe Okay, cool. It just seems pointless having Mozilla when Firefox is clearly better.
[07:51] <edulix> hello people
[07:51] <edulix> when I launch a task from within the shell, I can suspend it via Ctrl-Z and resume it using %1 or %number and jobs handling
[07:51] <PyresFlood> I agree NegativeSpace
[07:52] <edulix> but how can I suspend a task that was not launched from within the shell?
[07:52] <mwe> NegativeSpace: mabye someone like mozilla more.
[07:52] <Enthusiast78> Isn't there a way to search for the package with comes with the 'startx' binary?
[07:52] <edulix> maybe top can handle that ? I don't know
[07:52] <_jason> Enthusiast78: apt-file search startx
[07:52] <dereks> Enthusiast78: why would you need to do that
[07:52] <Enthusiast78> _jason now that's really cool! tks!
[07:52] <NegativeSpace> mwe Yeah I guess.
[07:53] <beerockxs> why does ubuntu install cron, anacron and atd, when they all basically do the same?
[07:53] <Enthusiast78> _jason Hmmm... What if I don't have apt-file?
[07:53] <_jason> beerockxs: they are different, at least as I understand them
[07:54] <_jason> Enthusiast78: apt-get install apt-file
[07:54] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: install it
[07:54] <beerockxs> _jason, what about klogd and syslogd?
[07:54] <Enthusiast78> _jason Sorry, I just did 'sudo aptitude install apt-file' but thanks anyway!
[07:54] <_jason> beerockxs: don't know about those.  have you tried looking at there man pages?
[07:55] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: make sure you run "sudo apt-file update" before you run it
[07:55] <_jason> Enthusiast78: that's the better way, my fingers are just used to apt-get
[07:55] <beerockxs> _jason, ok, klogd is for kernel logging, syslogd for system logginf
[07:56] <graveson> how can i copy an encrypted dvd
[07:57] <_michael_> How easy is it to take my laptop, shrink the partition, and bake a dual boot with windows?
[07:57] <nalioth> michele__: easy as pie
[07:57] <_michael_> if it's easy... is there a wiki for it?
[07:57] <nalioth> michele__: the installer will ask you if you'd like to shrink the ntfs partition
[07:58] <mevvis> hi
[07:58] <anto9us> michele__, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[07:58] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : Thanks.
[07:58] <_michael_> I'm trying to put windows on a ubuntu machine
[07:58] <Enthusiast78> _jason : I had a hard time adopting aptitude, but now it feels just natural...
[07:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _michael_ about recover
[07:59] <rainbowjoshua> ARGH!  I'm in my recovery mode shell and I can't find an editor anywhere!
[07:59] <_jason> rainbowjoshua: nano
[07:59] <roico> my samba works only with ip addresses...
[08:00] <deizi> argh... too used to mIRC... :>
[08:00] <Ivaldi> Can you run K3B under gnome, or will it just be a huge waste of resources?
[08:00] <Enthusiast78> deizi yuck! :P
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> Ivaldi: You can do it.  It might not be quite optimal, but should be fine.
[08:00] <deizi> x-chat now...
[08:01] <Ivaldi> tonyyarusso: ok thanks :)
[08:01] <Ivaldi> gnomebaker and graveman is driving me nuts
[08:01] <Ivaldi> are*
[08:01] <rambo3> dont use gnombaker
[08:01] <Ivaldi> indeed
[08:02] <rainbowjoshua> _jason:L What?
[08:02] <TheColonel> Hi
[08:02] <_michael_> how do i shrink my ubuntu partition?
[08:02] <_jason> rainbowjoshua: nano is an editor
[08:04] <LaserJock> any admin types around?
[08:04] <apokryphos> _michael_: gparted
[08:04] <_michael_> but i can't shrink the partition i'm using, can I?
[08:05] <apokryphos> _michael_: I should think you can, it just wouldn't do it immediately. You can always use a LiveCD though.
[08:05] <tristanmike> _michael_, you can boot to a live disk and use it from there, I've heard gparted has it's own small live cd
[08:05] <gibbster> How hard is it to upgrade from a server installation to a full installation?
[08:06] <nalioth> LaserJock: just ask a question
[08:06] <axnotizes> _michael_: I would used a LiveCD to resize partition.
[08:06] <axnotizes> e.g. knoppix
[08:06] <_jason> gibbster: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[08:06] <Enthusiast78> gibbster : sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[08:06] <gibbster> nice. Thanks guys
[08:06] <_jason> gibbster: (you only need to enter the command once) :)
[08:06] <eugenio> hello
[08:06] <espresso> help! I can't get php to run on the apache server now
[08:06] <Enthusiast78> :D
[08:06] <espresso> (at least apache is running... for now)
[08:06] <gibbster> _jason: yeah, got that ;-)
[08:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell espresso about lamp
[08:06] <_michael_> ok, boot to live cd, using gparted to resize current to smaller size, throw windows on the new partition, and use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows to recover my grub?
[08:06] <apokryphos> espresso: what's the error?
[08:07] <Vladimir_BG> nalioth, I tried graveman and I got an error mesage
[08:07] <espresso> when I try to load a .php page from my browser, it doesn't parse
[08:07] <espresso> it tries to download it
[08:07] <nalioth> _michael_: that sounds good
[08:07] <nalioth> Vladimir_BG: is your hardware functional?
[08:07] <Vladimir_BG> in win xp yes
[08:08] <_jason> espresso: did you install apache and php from the repositories?
[08:08] <_michael_> k, i'll be back when i screw up my  puter :)
[08:08] <espresso> _jason: yes
[08:08] <_jason> espresso: which packages?
[08:08] <Vladimir_BG> nalioth, I can read discs in ubuntu, I can read and write in xp!
[08:08] <espresso> but I've been having other problems with my apache server all day
[08:08] <espresso> I did manually install 5.1.2 from php.net directly
[08:08] <Vladimir_BG> nalioth, how can I paste the mesage without flooding?
[08:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Vladimir_BG about paste
[08:09] <espresso> and it worked... but I broke something else on it along the way
[08:09] <mackyman> If I haven't noticed wrong when I installed apache, it contained less configs in windows. Or am I wrong?
[08:09] <espresso> _jason: from apt-get, I did install mysqld and apache2
[08:10] <rainbowjoshua> oh, nano?  never heard of it.
[08:10] <rainbowjoshua> What is this weird /dev/mapper stuff?
[08:10] <_jason> espresso: php5 from the repos seems to set it up fine.  I think because it pulls in libapache2-mod-php5
[08:10] <espresso> _jason: repos?
[08:10] <_jason> espresso: repositories
[08:11] <espresso> well I did something to make it not want to go there...
[08:11] <csgirl> hello, I try to install skype using :sudo apt-get install getskype-linux-deb.deb
[08:11] <csgirl>     but it shows me a lot of warnings:Couldn't stat source package list
[08:11] <espresso> hmm... maybe I need to include in my virtualhosts file
[08:11] <apokryphos> csgirl: sudo apt-get update, first
[08:11] <apokryphos> csgirl: and to install skype just /msg ubotu skype
[08:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell csgirl about seveas
[08:12] <csgirl> thanks
[08:12] <K-Zodron> Hello again! :P I have a new question, i'm installing the SDL packages for gcc, but sudo apt-get packagename.deb says can not find file, even trough it's on the desktop :d
[08:12] !lilo:*! Hi all. Need fluent translation assistance, English (US) <-> Spanish (CL)....please message me.... thanks!
[08:12] <graveson> can anyone proivde me tips on converting an mpg file to a dvd
[08:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell K-Zodron about deb
[08:13] <rambo3> k-zodron  try synaptic  and no .deb
[08:13] <K-Zodron> ty
[08:14] <espresso> _jason: I apt-got libapache2-mod-php5 and nothing
[08:14] <deizi> There were no decoders found to handle the stream blaablaa while trying open avi's etc
[08:14] <K-Zodron> rambo3: Can I find the sdl libs with synaptic?
[08:14] <_jason> espresso: did you restart apache?
[08:15] <mackyman> K-Zodron, I think you shuld use dpkg -i <filename>
[08:15] <rambo3> yeah
[08:15] <raimundo> Hola
[08:15] <Ivaldi> Can I safely burn more than 4.4 GB onto a single layer dvd disc in K3B?
[08:15] <K-Zodron> mackyman : i tried, same error basically
[08:15] <rambo3> search for gcc libs or standard libs gcc
[08:15] <raimundo> Hello everybody!!
[08:15] <raimundo> from spain
[08:15] <raimundo> with Ubuntu
[08:15] <K-Zodron> ramblingturtle : kk
[08:15] <mackyman> Okej... then I don't know
[08:15] <K-Zodron> ops
[08:15] <K-Zodron> wrong nick
[08:15] <K-Zodron> rambo3 *
[08:15] <K-Zodron> well, cya
[08:15] <espresso> _jason: yes
[08:16] <espresso> _jason: apt-get restarted apache during the install
[08:16] <_jason> espresso: don't know then
[08:16] <Sturmkraehe> hm
[08:16] <espresso> thanks anywho
[08:17] <Ivaldi> I don't see why I can fit less data onto a dvd in K3B than I can fit in gnomebaker
[08:17] <rainbowjoshua> I'm stuck for an editor that works in my rescue mode shell.... vi and vim act weird... and I don't have nano installed...
[08:17] <espresso> I do appreciate the help :)
[08:17] <_jason> espresso: check that /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf exists
[08:17] <espresso> _jason: nooooo it don't
[08:18] <_jason> espresso: ok well that's what enables php for me... I assume it's because you installed from php.net that you don't have it.  I do however believe that if you grep /etc/apache2/apache2.conf for php, you will find two lines that begin with ``Addtype'' that you need to uncomment
[08:19] <espresso> hmm... I know of the two lines you speak
[08:19] <bloodnik> Hi, is there something I don't know about Java? If I search apt-cache for j2sdk it returns something about Blackdown Java?
[08:19] <espresso> _jason: just nwo a matter of "where are the files"
[08:20] <bloodnik> Is this the "default" version of Java? 'cause as far as I knew, Java was Java.
[08:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell bloodnik about java
[08:21] <rambo3> its open java like open drivers and such
[08:22] <rambo3> if you wish closed read wiki
[08:23] !lilo:*! Thanks to everyone who messaged....we're set!
[08:24] <espresso> _jason: edited... restarted... still nothing :(
[08:24] <yohan> i just recompiled the kernel (to 2.6.14) and the sound stopped working, any ideas?
[08:24] <espresso> I found the two lines in question too
[08:24] <jordo23> What's the command line to get your system name?
[08:25] <_jason> espresso: all i can think of is installing php5 from the repos then.  Otherwise you may want to try #php
[08:25] <bimberi> jordo23: hostname
[08:25] <rambo3> yohan use dappers kernel ,if you make your own you are on your own
[08:25] <yohan> rambo3: but is the fault in the kernel or would reinstalling alsa fix it?
[08:26] <yohan> rambo3: im using breezy btw
[08:26] <rambo3> depends. you might have misconfigured config for kernel
[08:26] <rambo3> taken out driver that you need or something
[08:26] <yohan> can i upgrade to the dapper kernel without any screwups, whilst still running breezy?
[08:26] <espresso> #php sent me here
[08:27] <seyon> hi, i'm using dapper at this moment, and i can't print pdf files. it only prints a blank page
[08:27] <yohan> can i do a fast reconfiguration or do i have to repeat the process?
[08:27] <espresso> I think I nailed it tho... I have to find that php5.conf and rearrange the pointers to it
[08:27] <rambo3> yeah save source.list.backup , change it to dapper install the kernel and change it back
[08:27] <ian_> what do you guys think about apt-get doing an rsync with the previous version of a package, if available?
[08:28] <lunari> Hello
[08:28] <yohan> rambo3: do you have any guide somewhere in doing that? :4
[08:28] <rambo3> wait i l type one liner
[08:28] <yohan> k
[08:29] <nalioth> seyon: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper help and discussion
[08:29] <lunari> Going to put Ubuntu on my Thinkpad i1200, when I try to boot the live cd it freezes at 86% of Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives, at that point it is Loading module 'ide-cd' for 'Linux ATAPI CD-ROM'.. any suggestions?
[08:29] <rambo3> sudo sed -ie 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:30] <rainbowjoshua> I'm in the grub menu and I can't figure out how to do shit!  I've got both my drives in.
[08:30] <bloodnik> thanks, think I got it.
[08:30] <bloodnik> byes
[08:30] <rambo3> then you search for your linux-image with apt-cache search linux-image
[08:30] <seyon> tks nalioth
[08:30] <jace> how do I enable dual monitors?
[08:30] <yohan> rambo3: yeah but how would i upgrade the kernel?
[08:30] <rambo3> and change back  sudo sed -ie 's/dapper/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:31] <jace> yohan, use the update manager to update your kernal
[08:31] <rambo3> with apt-get install kernel-image ?
[08:31] <eirejah> hello .. anyone have some good links on how to change your theme and desktop look etc in ubuntu/gnome  ??
[08:31] <eirejah> !themes
[08:31] <rambo3> linux-image
[08:31] <lunari> Going to put Ubuntu on my Thinkpad i1200, when I try to boot the live cd it freezes at 86% of Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives, at that point it is Loading module 'ide-cd' for 'Linux ATAPI CD-ROM'.. any suggestions?
[08:32] <yohan> oh k
[08:32] <yohan> will i have to reinstall fglrx and stuff? which kernel is it btw?
[08:32] <caglar_> what do I have to change to get dead keys back? i want to press ^ twice to get it once because I am not able to get it over a vocal (need it to write french) (have a german keyboard)
[08:32] <yohan> 2.6.15 or 16 maybe?
[08:32] <rambo3> i think its 15
[08:32] <jace> !tell jace multiple displays
[08:33] <yohan> great
[08:33] <rambo3> why did you rcompile your kernel yohan
[08:33] <yohan> thanks a bunch guys
[08:33] <jace> !tell yohan kernal
[08:33] <yohan> i read a guide on ubuntuforums
[08:33] <caglar_> !tell caglar multiple displays
[08:33] <caglar_> !tell caglar_ multiple displays
[08:33] <rambo3> sound wifi or why?
[08:33] <lunari> Going to put Ubuntu on my Thinkpad i1200, when I try to boot the live cd it freezes at 86% of Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives, at that point it is Loading module 'ide-cd' for 'Linux ATAPI CD-ROM'.. any suggestions?
[08:33] <eirejah> !tell jahshua multiple displays
[08:33] <yohan> it was a sticker about kernel 2.6.14 vanilla flavor or something, i recompiled because i read on some forums that the random lockups with my ati card sometimes emerge cause of old kernels
[08:34] <eirejah> doesnt work
[08:34] <caglar_> can you tell me about multiple display pls eirejah?
[08:34] <eirejah> terminals?
[08:34] <eirejah> or desktops?
[08:34] <eirejah> im not sure what you mean
[08:34] <rambo3> is it 2 monitors ?
[08:34] <caglar_> 2 monitors
[08:34] <yohan> rambo3: yeah one tv out and one crt
[08:34] <eirejah> oh
[08:34] <caglar_> physical
[08:34] <yohan> ups sry :p
[08:34] <caglar_> fglrx
[08:34] <eirejah> i dont know about thaT
[08:34] <eirejah> sorry
[08:34] <caglar_> ok
[08:35] <rambo3> its more graphic driver related anyway you have to change you xorg.conf buy hand and fix the driver
[08:36] <rambo3> anyway google for that
[08:36] <Mr_Morden> is there a realvnc package available? I know there's another tool that lets connect to vnc servers, however is there also one available that lets run the vnc server on debian?
[08:36] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : You were right. xinit is the package that installs startx, but still... Looks like I need many more things to get X working... :(
[08:36] <lunari> Going to put Ubuntu on my Thinkpad i1200, when I try to boot the live cd it freezes at 86% of Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives, at that point it is Loading module 'ide-cd' for 'Linux ATAPI CD-ROM'.. any suggestions?
[08:36] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : I'll go with xubuntu-desktop for now...
[08:37] <infamousjeff> i have always used tightvnc for my debian server
[08:37] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: xubuntu-desktop is the smallest group of progs that will get you going
[08:37] <rambo3> e78 you need x system core . search that
[08:37] <Enthusiast78> nalioth : At least it's half the size of Gnome or KDE. :)
[08:37] <Mr_Morden> infamousjeff: well, is that available by apt-get? I currently don't have access to a ubuntu machine and trying to help someone set it up :)
[08:39] <Enthusiast78> rambo3 : hmmm... startx tells me I have to install x-window-system and x-window-system-core... only 30Mb... Let's try'em first! :)
[08:39] <yohan> rambo3: it tells me i should explicitly select which linux-image to choose...i have amd64 on a x86 installation, should i select 386? or 686? sry if im a retard
[08:40] <infamousjeff> the vnc server is set up was for my dedicated box hosting my site and its CLI so i assume i used apt-get :) although i might of dselect'd as well :P
[08:40] <sfar-ubu> im trying to download libgnome-desktop-dev with synaptic but it says that it has unresolvable dependensies.. does anyone know how to fix?
[08:40] <rambo3> e78 you will need xserver-xorg too
[08:40] <yohan> does anyone know?
[08:40] <Enthusiast78> rambo3 : oh that I got already. :0
[08:41] <sfar-ubu> " Depends: libgnomeui-dev but it is not going to be installed"
[08:41] <infamousjeff> morden: it was on debian sid if that helps any
[08:41] <rambo3> e78 you are installing backwords . anyway what window manager are you instaliing blackbox fluxbox?
[08:42] <rambo3> yohan i dont know anything about amd64
[08:42] <bsdfox> yohan, 686
[08:42] <yohan> thnx
[08:43] <deizi> fonts to western-europe, ow?
[08:43] <deizi> how?
[08:44] <csgirl> hello  what is the problem " sudo apt-get update" it gives " The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/f could not be found."
[08:44] <patrick522> i just downloaded the cedega demo installer now how do i run it
[08:45] <patrick522> i just downloaded the cedega demo installer now how do i run it
[08:45] <Toki_Masa> Ubuntu wants me to enter my WEP in either ASCII or Hex. What's the difference and how do I know which one I have?
[08:45] <rambo3> ./j #cedega
[08:45] <yohan> when upgrading to dappers kernel, should i install anything other than linux-image?
[08:45] <mwe> yohan: the modules
[08:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell patrick522 about repeat
[08:46] <yohan> mwe: which modules?
[08:46] <DarthShrine> Toki_Masa, Hex = 0-9 + A-F, ASCII = everything pretty much
[08:46] <mwe> yohan: the kernel modules
[08:46] <bsdfox> uh
[08:46] <yohan> mwe which packages are those?
[08:46] <bsdfox> maybe you shouldn't use dapper
[08:46] <arrinmurr> are there daily snapshots of (k)ubuntu somewhere? i thought there was, but i can't find them anywhere
[08:46] <yohan> im on breezy, just upgrading to dappers kernel
[08:47] <bsdfox> idiot..
[08:47] <Toki_Masa> I know that...but how do I tell if my WEP is ascii or hex?
[08:47] <rambo3> yohan noting more is needed just reboot
[08:47] <mwe> yohan: it will get the basic modules but maybe you want linux-restricted-modules as well
[08:47] <mackyman> patrick522, probably dpkg -i <file path and name>
[08:47] <yohan> really, i got the advice here pal
[08:47] <yohan> mwe whats in that one?
[08:47] <DarthShrine> Toki_Masa, Well, whatever you entered it in your AP/Router/Whatever
[08:47] <yohan> k rambo3 thnx
[08:48] <DarthShrine> s/whatever/however/
[08:48] <nalioth> arrinmurr: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[08:48] <mwe> yohan: restricted modules. ie the non free etc. ati-drivers and such
[08:48] <Toki_Masa> I just entered a passphrase and it generated a WEP key. I don't know what it is, and I tried my access point and router manual/.
[08:48] <yohan> mwe k
[08:48] <arrinmurr> nalioth: thank you
[08:49] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know which media player that is bundled with ubuntu can play mp3's?
[08:49] <jadaz87> without going to have to go install something else?
[08:49] <patrick522> the installer is called   cedega_timedemo_installer   and location is /home/patrick   sowhat would i put in theterminal
[08:49] <bsdfox> jadaz87, all of them?
[08:50] <Jaga> jadaz87, try xmms
[08:50] <mackyman> patrick522 sudo dpkg -i /home/patrick cedega_timedemo_installer
[08:50] <jadaz87> jaga does that have music library capabilities?
[08:50] <mackyman> without the patrick522 :P
[08:51] <Jaga> jadaz87, dunno really, I think it's just a winamp clone
[08:51] <mackyman> I'm using xmms right now
[08:51] <Jaga> jadaz87, it does playlists if thats any help
[08:51] <mackyman> And I don't find any media library
[08:51] <mackyman> playlists it do
[08:51] <patrick522> itsaysits notknow
[08:52] <patrick522> it says its not know
[08:52] <purple^haze> hi
[08:52] <mwe> patrick522: doesn't their web page say how to install it?
[08:52] <DarthShrine> patrick522, What sort of file is it?
[08:52] <purple^haze> how can i recover sudo rm deleted files?
[08:52] <nalioth> purple^haze: put in your backup media
[08:53] <mackyman> patrick522, then it's not a .deb file... forgot that :P
[08:53] <patrick522> shell script
[08:53] <purple^haze> nathanj,  i just deleted some files trusted.gpg from sources.list
[08:53] <purple^haze> i mean apt folder
[08:53] <nalioth> purple^haze: it is gone for good
[08:53] <purple^haze> i wanna bring it back
[08:53] <mwe> patrick522: my guess would be sudo sh cedega_timedemo_installer if it's a script
[08:54] <nalioth> purple^haze: it doesnt matter what you want, "rm" permanently removes things
[08:55] <bobutz> dvxcv
[08:56] <lunari> Going to put Ubuntu on my Thinkpad i1200, when I try to boot the live cd it freezes at 86% of Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives, at that point it is Loading module 'ide-cd' for 'Linux ATAPI CD-ROM'.. any suggestions?
[08:56] <sfar-ubu> *asking again* im trying to download libgnome-desktop-dev with synaptic but it says that it has unresolvable dependensies.. does anyone know how to fix?
[08:56] <mwe> sfar-ubu: probably fix sources.list and sudo apt-get update
[08:57] <kahuna_> Hi. which kernel should I use for a sempron64?
[08:57] <nalioth> kahuna_: either i386 or amd64
[08:57] <eirejah> ok so i just downloaded like a 1000 wallpapers with art.gnome.org in my sysytem preferences but they arent listed in my options ... where can i find them   ?
[08:57] <Enthusiast78> fsck tells me my ext3 partition is clean, but how can I force verification?
[08:57] <kahuna_> Ok. I'm running a SMP kernel for PIII right now.
[08:57] <ICE> does anyone know cgi programming here
[08:57] <Enthusiast78> ICE : What do you need?
[08:58] <ICE> cgi programming
[08:58] <ICE> just html
[08:58] <kahuna_> Enthusiast78: fsck -f?
[08:58] <ICE> do you know it
[08:58] <Enthusiast78> ICE : Believe me, CGI programming is not 'just HTML'. ;)
[08:58] <Mischevious> can anyone tell me why amarok crashes on my 1ghz machine but not on my 3ghz machine, isn't 1ghz fast enough?
[08:58] <patrick522> When i use "sudo sh cedega_timedemo_installer" it uncompresses it then comes up with an error
[08:58] <ICE> enthusiast  do you know cgi
[08:58] <concept10> anyone familiar with the website zvents?  I want to know what effect they are using on the calendar.
[08:58] <Enthusiast78> ICE : Yup. That's why I asked what you wanna do.
[08:59] <ICE> can I pm you please
[08:59] <concept10> oops, wrong channel
[08:59] <Enthusiast78> ICE : Sure, go ahead.
[08:59] <kahuna_> ICE: What language? Perl?
[08:59] <Enthusiast78> kahuna_ Thanks a lot, -f does it.
[08:59] <kahuna_> np man.
[08:59] <slimz> anyone feel like helping me get rid of my original screen saver? i have 2 installed after upgrading to dapper
[09:00] <ICE> k thx
[09:01] <fit4lfe> enthusiast you have a msg
[09:01] <Enthusiast78> fit4lfe : freenode seems to be blocking my private messages.
[09:01] <mwe> Enthusiast78: you need to register your nick
[09:02] <ubuntu> siema ziomy!!!!
[09:02] <PokerFacePenguin> fit4lfe: you need to register
[09:02] <BlueEagle> enthusiast78: It does that if you are not registered.,
[09:02] <fit4lfe> register you nick real quick
[09:02] <PokerFacePenguin> oops
[09:02] <PokerFacePenguin> Enthusiast78: i meant that for you
[09:02] <Enthusiast78> fit4lfe : Please join #fit4lfe, it's easier.
[09:02] <fit4lfe> k
[09:03] <calloc> I thnk my ISP has blocked port 22 on me due to excessive 'tunnelling' traffic, can I bind SSh to any other port, please advise? Or is there away I can find out if this is the case?
[09:03] <csgirl> hello , what is the problem I can't use "sudo apt-get update"
[09:03] <PokerFacePenguin> calloc: yes, any port can be bound
[09:03] <FlannelKing> calloc: yeah, just change the port in your sshd config
[09:04] <patrick522> When i use "sudo sh cedega_timedemo_installer" it uncompresses it then comes up with an error
[09:04] <calloc> when I try telnet'ing in to any port, (except 80) I get the following: telnet: connect to address xxx.xxx.xx.x: Connection refused, telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused, any ideas??
[09:05] <synd> I need a console cmd to tell me what MHz my processor is reporting at. Anyone know?
[09:05] <brettcar> synd: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:05] <mwe> csgirl: It sounds broken. Is /etc/apt/sources.list ok?
[09:06] <calloc> Anyone?
[09:06] <synd> Is there any reason that my PIII 650MHz is reporting at 334MHz?
[09:06] <PokerFacePenguin> calloc: i suppose that would depend on where you were telnetting from, and what your firewall configs look like...........if you are using ssh, you probably dont have "telnet"
[09:06] <calloc> checked router, firewall fine..must be the ISP
[09:07] <mwe> calloc: call them and ask what's going on
[09:07] <calloc> PokerFacePenguin, im telnetting from my web host,
[09:07] <DarthShrine> calloc, Sure you've got ports forwarded etc?
[09:07] <calloc> I turned firewall off, stil nothing router is fine, sure Im on it now and my webserver can serve fine
[09:07] <Fredde> could some one help me share a folder so I can transfer files to my other computer that uses windows
[09:07] <calloc> DarthShrine, yeah forwarded fine
[09:08] <trappist> calloc: you can only telnet to a port with a listening server
[09:08] <mwe> calloc: personally I'd get really pissed if my ISP did that to me
[09:09] <calloc> trappist, yeah, ssh (22), mysql (3306)...
[09:09] <lunari> hmm
[09:09] <mwe> synd: it doesn't have speed stepping or something?
[09:09] <lunari> this laptop is making me work to just get the live cd going :(
[09:10] <calloc> mwe, yeah I know, but ive probably broken some fair usage policy, that governs the running of servers on the network, I have been tunnelling alot of data through from work, for obvious reasons
[09:10] <calloc> mwe, maybe ill stick my neck out and give them sh*t
[09:11] <mwe> calloc: yeah.
[09:11] <PokerFacePenguin> calloc: depends on if there were possible litigation from work data being tunneled on whether i would "stick my neck out"
[09:11] <keithhhhhhhhh> sorry guys does anyone use GAIM?  Does anyone know what folder the sounds are found in?
[09:12] <lunari> hmm
[09:12] <keithhhhhhhhh> sorry guys does anyone use GAIM?  Does anyone know what folder the sounds are found in?
[09:12] <eirejah> can someone please help me with disabling the noises ubuntu makes everytime i click an app
[09:12] <mwe> keithhhhhhhhh: don't repeat. dpkg -L gaim
[09:13] <Jaga> What is the sound service daemon called that is supposed to load for gnome in ubuntu?
[09:13] <Gnonthgol> I have a problem starting programs in root, (like "add program" or "Synaptic"). That is, it prompts me for a password and then terminate.
[09:13] <keithhhhhhhhh> mwe the room seems quieter than normal  ;)
[09:13] <jefferai> "ms. jefferson, please add #amarok to my filter-list and remind me daily to not join it again"
[09:13] <eirejah> Gnonthgol: are you using gksudo ?
[09:13] <graveson> can anyone help me to copy a dvd
[09:13] <jcapote> is there a way to run evolution from the system tray
[09:14] <mwe> keithhhhhhhhh: we should all start repeating to make it more busy ;)
[09:14] <kingspawn> eirejah: system->preferences->sound
[09:14] <eirejah> kingspawn: thanks
[09:14] <Gnonthgol> eirejah: yes, and sudo from the terminal, but neither works.
[09:15] <mwe> Gnonthgol: and you're using your user password and it has worked before?
[09:15] <Gnonthgol> eirejah: I have to su into root and then start the aplication.
[09:15] <nazty> does anyone have a repository for the latest version of java?
[09:15] <Mischevious> Gnonthgol, tried sudo -s ?
[09:16] <Gnonthgol> mwe: It have never worked on Breezy
[09:16] <Mischevious> Gnonthgol, sudo -S *
[09:16] <mwe> Gnonthgol: are you in the admin group and if you do visudo is the admin group set up correctly to allow sudo?
[09:16] <jefferai> Mischevious: just checking...you mean something like this?  "ms. jefferson, please add #amarok to my filter-list and remind me daily to not join it again"
[09:16] <Mischevious> jefferai, so now you are going to harass me in another channel?
[09:16] <Mischevious> why don't you grow up please.
[09:17] <Mischevious> and just go away
[09:17] <matthes> lol
[09:17] <jefferai> Dude, you harassd me in another channel, don't be a hypocrite.
[09:17] <jefferai> harassed, even
[09:17] <Gnonthgol> "user is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." thank all
[09:17] <Mischevious> jefferai, ignored permanently.
[09:17] <jefferai> oh no!
[09:17] <jefferai> hehehe
[09:17] <nazty> how do i enable the multiverse repository?
[09:17] <mwe> Gnonthgol: type groups as your user. are you in the admin group?
[09:18] <mwe> Gnonthgol: then type visudo as root and check that the file has '%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL' in it (no quotes)
[09:18] <Gnonthgol> mwe: yes, but now I am adding myself to the sudoers file
[09:19] <zloc> newbie to ubuntu compiling would like a bit of help....
[09:19] <Gnonthgol> mwe: I am doing it as we write
[09:19] <mwe> Gnonthgol: yes
[09:19] <mwe> Gnonthgol: type visudo as root and add what I suggested
[09:20] <DarthShrine> Hrm...My flash drive gets auto-mounted when I plug it in, yet when I right click on it and select unmount it can't.
[09:20] <mwe> Gnonthgol: when it works you can disable root login to increase security
[09:21] <Gnonthgol> mwe: it works fine, but I actualy don't need more security.
[09:21] <PokerFacePenguin> zloc: start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingCompilers?action=show&redirect=forum%2Fsoftware%2FCompiler
[09:22] <mwe> Gnonthgol: so sudo is working now?
[09:22] <PokerFacePenguin> zloc: you will need build-essential to compile anything
[09:22] <lunari> omg!
[09:22] <lunari> Can someone explain something to me
[09:23] <Mischevious> lunari, shoot
[09:23] <lunari> Why is it with the Breezy 5.10 live cd and install cd both.. that it freezes at 86% of the detecting hardware and mounting cd-rom or whatever thing
[09:23] <lunari> yet with warty 4.10 it does perfect
[09:23] <lunari> with no problems
[09:24] <lunari> It's an IBM Thinkpad i1200
[09:24] <IcemanV9> lunari: why don't you try "acpi=off"?
[09:24] <lunari> IcemanV9: Tried it, doesn't work
[09:25] <vdm> hi all. i m about to try Ubuntu, but i need an pppoe stuff (pppd, pppoeconf). Does the installationcd have that? I was unable to install SuSE because i didn't found pppd. (sorry for my bad english)
[09:25] <lunari> IcemanV9: Tried it with the live cd at least, not with the installer
[09:25] <lunari> IcemanV9: What is acpi anyways?
[09:25] <IcemanV9> lunari: md5sum your CD?
[09:25] <mwe> vdm: I believe that's all installed by default
[09:25] <vdm> is live cd similar to installer?
[09:25] <zloc> PokerFacePenguin, went through that, I didn't have a few items, but I am no further ahead. trying to .configure jack and get
[09:25] <zloc> jack-audio-connection-kit 0.99.0 :
[09:25] <zloc> | Build with OSS support................................ : true
[09:25] <zloc> | Build with ALSA support............................... : false
[09:25] <zloc> | Build with PortAudio support.......................... : false
[09:25] <zloc> | Build with CoreAudio support.......................... : false
[09:25] <zloc> |
[09:25] <vdm> ... to install cd
[09:25] <zloc> | Default driver is..................................... : "oss"
[09:25] <lunari> IcemanV9: Installed it on two other systems no problem with that same cd
[09:25] <zloc> I need alsa
[09:25] <mwe> zloc: don't paste in here
[09:26] <IcemanV9> !acpi
[09:26] <ubotu> IcemanV9: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:26] <zloc> so aptitude install alsa-source
[09:26] <zloc> mwe ok, sorry
[09:26] <vdm> thanks for idea:)
[09:26] <mwe> zloc: use pastebin.com or something
[09:26] <patrick522> When i use "sudo sh cedega_timedemo_installer" it uncompresses it then comes up with an error
[09:26] <PokerFacePenguin> zloc: standard protocol for pasting is to use pastebin
[09:26] <PokerFacePenguin> !pastebin
[09:26] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[09:26] <IcemanV9> lunari: hmm.. is there anything in wiki, forums or google about your problem?
[09:26] <lunari> IcemanV9: I found some stuff on the forums, nothing listed there helped
[09:27] <IcemanV9> lunari: acpi == power management
[09:27] <albacker> guys i did modprobe spca5xx so it loads spca5xx .. how do i make it to load next time i reboot ? or modprobe does it ?
[09:27] <DarthShrine> patrick522, And the error is?
[09:27] <sfar-ubu> *asking again* im trying to download libgnome-desktop-dev with synaptic but it says that it has unresolvable dependensies.. does anyone know how to fix? there is nothing wrong with my sources.list
[09:27] <lunari> IcemanV9: ah, okay
[09:27] <zloc> PokerFacePenguin, this pust an alsa and a kernel bz2 on /usr/src
[09:28] <wmob> pop it /etc/modules
[09:28] <lunari> IcemanV9: This laptop will just be my linux toy, whether it's 4.10 or 5.10 :) I will be happy :)
[09:28] <zloc> PokerFacePenguin, do I take them out to use, or is there an ubuntu way to use while compressed?
[09:28] <wmob> albacker: pop it in /etc/modules
[09:28] <lunari> IcemanV9: I hate to say it but my two main systems will be going back to windows boxes :(
[09:28] <albacker> wmob, ok thanks
[09:28] <wmob> you're welcome
[09:28] <k31th> can you upgrade to dapper by just changing sources ?
[09:29] <G0SUB> k31th: yes
[09:29] <jenda> Which .* directories do i need to transfer to a second PC, if I want the default emty Ubuntu box to have the same settings as the other one? That is: without all the application settings?
[09:29] <IcemanV9> lunari: it had happened to me before on hp laptop; i just rebooted it and used "acpi=off"
[09:29] <G0SUB> k31th: you need to do apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:29] <mwe> k31th: yes more or less
[09:29] <lunari> IcemanV9: hmm, let me try it real quick
[09:29] <PokerFacePenguin> zloc: so you dont have alsa and want to use it?
[09:29] <Jaga> help.. esd is failing to start for unknown reason and I think that is why none of my gnome sound events are working. any ideas anyone?
[09:29] <lunari> IcemanV9: do I type install acpi=off ?
[09:29] <IcemanV9> lunari: it happened a few times when i rebuild hp laptop. i don't know why it does that. *shrug*
[09:30] <IcemanV9> lunari: yea
[09:30] <zloc> PokerFacePenguin, no, I am trying to use netjack instead of jack./udp
[09:30] <patrick522> the error is: error while shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: can not share object file: no shuch file or directory
[09:30] <zloc> PokerFacePenguin, netjack needs to be compiled
[09:30] <mwe> k31th: after changing sources.list I had to apt-get install kdelibs before apt-get dist-upgrade, though, or it would remove kde
[09:30] <patrick522> the error is: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: can not share object file: no shuch file or directory
[09:30] <lunari> IcemanV9: Let me just change out cds and reboot real quick
[09:30] <zloc> to do so, I need jack source and then .compile and make in jack source dir
[09:31] <zloc> this gives no alsa support which is what I am running.
[09:31] <nazty> whats a .bin file?
[09:31] <Stormx2> Could someone explain these formats: flac, aac, mp4, m4a, etc. Are they all audio, and are any of em the same?
[09:31] <k31th> im running kubuntu will this be a problem ?
[09:31] <PokerFacePenguin> zloc: is there a config file to set alsa to true before you compile?
[09:31] <Mischevious> nazty, use sh name.bin to install it
[09:31] <k31th> woulod i be best off swapping to gnome
[09:31] <k31th> ?
[09:31] <nickrud> patrick522, you track down that error by searching for the package that file is in on packages.ubuntu.com
[09:31] <lunari> IcemanV9: *crosses fingers*
[09:31] <zloc> I tried --with-alsa
[09:31] <nazty> im trying to convert it to a deb with alien
[09:31] <Mischevious> Stormx2, mp4 and m4a are the same
[09:31] <zloc> let me check more
[09:31] <Fredde> Wich program should I use for ipod shuffle?
[09:31] <mwe> k31th: you'll probably have to do what I did
[09:31] <Mischevious> Stormx2, and aac is the same as m4a and mp4
[09:31] <nazty> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[09:31] <Mischevious> Stormx2, and yes they are all audio
[09:31] <k31th> mwe: ?
[09:31] <mwe> k31th: sudo apt-get install kdelibs after changing sources.list
[09:32] <zloc> still, does the alsa source need to be taken out of the bz2 or can it be left in in ubuntu?
[09:32] <k31th> ahhh
[09:32] <mwe> k31th: before sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:32] <Mischevious> Stormx2, flac = super high quality lossless audio
[09:32] <k31th> otherwise it will remove kde ?
[09:32] <Stormx2> Mischevious: Ah I see
[09:32] <Mischevious> Stormx2, why do you ask
[09:32] <k31th> mwe: do the kde versions change at all ?
[09:32] <nazty> Mischevious, how can i convert the .bin to a deb?
[09:32] <DarthShrine> Mischevious, Isn't that HDD expensive though?
[09:32] <mwe> k31th: yes
[09:32] <Mischevious> nazty, i'm not sure, but their is no need
[09:32] <DarthShrine> nazty, sh the file
[09:32] <lunari> IcemanV9: Now it seems to be hanging at.. "ohci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: irq 10, io mem 0x81c00000"
[09:32] <Mischevious> DarthShrine, what HDD ?
[09:32] <patrick522> it cant find it
[09:32] <Dr34mC0d3r> im wanting to set up a PDC (Primary Domain Controler) on ubuntu. Im googling but no luck... any oue have some tutorials of how-2's ??
[09:32] <mwe> k31th: it's 3.5.2 in dapper. 3.4.something in breezy
[09:33] <DarthShrine> Mischevious, The HDD which you would have them on?
[09:33] <Stormx2> Mischevious: Just... didn't know really.
[09:33] <Top|Work> nazty, just sh filename.bin
[09:33] <Mischevious> DarthShrine, i dunno what you are talking about
[09:33] <majd> Hey, i can't drag files from my windows (hd1) drive to my desktop?
[09:33] <nazty> thanks
[09:33] <Mischevious> Top|Work, i tried to tell him that :-P
[09:33] <Top|Work> hehe
[09:33] <Top|Work> I don't doubt that Mischevious
[09:33] <EmorphousBlob> hrm.
[09:33] <phuswork> i'm trying to install ieee80211 subsystem and its look for /lib/modules/`uname -r`/Build
[09:33] <DarthShrine> Mischevious, Hehe, too early in the morning for me
[09:33] <phuswork> i dont have a Build dr
[09:33] <Mischevious> lol
[09:33] <IcemanV9> lunari: try to install miminal "server acpi=off", then install rest of it when done
[09:33] <phuswork> i installed all the kernel sources and tre etc..
[09:34] <phuswork> but its still missing
[09:34] <phuswork> anyone know how i can get this build dir
[09:34] <mwe> majd: with what perms is the windows drive mounted?
[09:34] <k31th> mwe: does dapper run ok on kde?
[09:34] <lunari> IcemanV9: Okay let me give that a try :)
[09:34] <Top|Work> k31th, works fine
[09:34] <k31th> thinking about switching to gnome ?
[09:34] <DarthShrine> Oh well, I think I should get ready for school now :( Bye.
[09:34] <majd> mwe, to be honest, i don't know, it was automatically mounted on installation
[09:34] <k31th> Top|Work: you running dapper?
[09:34] <Top|Work> phuswork, is gcc installed? Kernel headers?
[09:34] <mwe> k31th: it runs fine for me
[09:34] <majd> which struck me as odd cause the last time i installed ubuntu i had to manually mount it
[09:34] <Top|Work> k31th, It could be said
[09:34] <patrick522> has any one got cedega working on ubuntu
[09:34] <k31th> Top|Work: was that a yes or a no rob ?
[09:35] <Top|Work> k31th, i have run dapper with kde yes
[09:35] <phuswork> Top|work yes , but gcc wouldnt create that dir would it?
[09:35] <mwe> majd: where is it mounted? ls -ld /path/to/mountpoint
[09:35] <k31th> Top|Work: finally using a real distro then :p
[09:35] <lunari> IcemanV9: This one was my beater from back in high school
[09:35] <lunari> IcemanV9: well, it's a beater now at least
[09:35] <lunari> IcemanV9: Was damn nice when I got it..
[09:35] <Top|Work> no phuswork, probnot but having all fo the stuff you need to compile it installed... and it'll be there... Lol. In my experience at least
[09:35] <patrick522> has any one got cedega working on ubuntu
[09:35] <lunari> IcemanV9: 700mhz celeron w00t lol
[09:36] <patrick522> or wine
[09:36] <Top|Work> k31th, no I took it off shortly after. Never works right for me..
[09:36] <mwe> patrick522: wine works
[09:36] <phuswork> Top|work yeah its not there :(
[09:36] <k31th> perhaps ill try upgrade to dapper a mo.
[09:36] <GigaClon> ive got wine working
[09:36] <lunari> IcemanV9: Froze at that same thing with server acpi=off
[09:36] <majd> mwe: dr-x------  1 root root 4096 2006-03-21 20:17 /media/hda1
[09:36] <k31th> Top|Work: never works right
[09:36] <mwe> patrick522: sudo apt-get install wine && wine notepad.exe
[09:36] <k31th> Top|Work: pplease provide more info
[09:36] <mwe> majd: yeah that's broken perms
[09:36] <Top|Work> k31th, I make the root user cause.. not having it ghey and things stop working
[09:36] <IcemanV9> lunari: ha. hp laptop is 850mHz duron
[09:36] <Top|Work> I can never get the admin panel to work k31th
[09:36] <majd> mwe what should i google in to fix it?
[09:36] <lunari> IcemanV9: lol :)
[09:36] <phuswork> would anyone know what I would need to populate /lib/modules/`uname -r`/Build with the correct build info ?
[09:36] <majd> i dont' know the technical terms
[09:37] <mwe> majd: edit /etc/fstab to change umask=0222 under options
[09:37] <andres_> hi anyone out there expert on LTSP and LDM ?
[09:37] <lunari> IcemanV9: I also have a 633mhz celeron compaq presario desktop
[09:37] <mwe> majd: make a backup first though
[09:37] <lunari> IcemanV9: and my main homebuilt system AMD64 based (the system I'm on now)
[09:37] <IcemanV9> lunari: i don't remember what else on how i got it going; been a quite while since i rebuild it.
[09:37] <mwe> majd: the remount the drive
[09:37] <k31th> ok. wats ghey about using sudo -s ?
[09:37] <Hoxzer> can somebody advice me hand to hand how to able "run" for file?
[09:37] <Hoxzer> via othernet
[09:37] <Hoxzer> *ethernet
[09:38] <Mischevious> ?
[09:38] <Mischevious> Hoxzer, explain please.
[09:38] <lunari> IcemanV9: Since 4.10 Warty seems to install I'll start that install again :) Old ubuntu is better than no ubuntu ;)
[09:38] <patrick522> wow its installing some thing
[09:38] <Hoxzer> Mischevious: I have a HTPC with knoppmyth
[09:38] <Hoxzer> and I'm not able to open video files in sftp share
[09:38] <majd> mwe, what do i want to change "/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0" to?
[09:38] <IcemanV9> lunari: well, if it is the case, then you can upgrade to hoary .. breezy?
[09:39] <Hoxzer> how can I make it happen?
[09:39] <mwe> lunari: you could then update first to 5.04 then to 5.10. should work at least in theory
[09:39] <G0SUB> Seveas: ping
[09:39] <IcemanV9> *it/that
[09:39] <lunari> IcemanV9, mwe: hmm, I think I will try that :)
[09:39] <mwe> majd: change defaults to defaults,umask=0222
[09:39] <patrick522> it worked now i have crapy notepad now how do i get my games to work
[09:39] <FlannelKing> lunari: I'm not sure you have to go through Hoary to get to Breezy
[09:39] <mwe> majd: and make a backup first
[09:39] <majd> yeah i did
[09:39] <majd> thanks
[09:39] <andres_> Hi, anyone knows about ldm and ltsp?
[09:40] <majd> i restart nautilus by killall nautilus ?
[09:40] <lunari> FlannelKing: I'm installing Warty, because Breezy won't install, nor will the live cd work
[09:40] <mwe> majd: close nautilus and remount the drive.
[09:40] <lunari> FlannelKing: They don't like my Thinkpad
[09:40] <mwe> majd: sudo mount -o remount /media/hda1
[09:40] <graveson> can anyone tell me how to ocnvert a vob file to a dvd video
[09:41] <FlannelKing> lunari: I know, someone made the comment of you upgrading to Hoary, then to Breezy, I don't think you need to go through Hoary, just straight to breezy, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
[09:41] <mwe> majd: type that in a terminal. then ls -ld /media/hda1
[09:41] <Esco> hey what does it mean "sudo:unable to lookup via gethost by name ()"?????
[09:41] <mwe> Esco: probably that /etc/hosts is broken
[09:41] <lunari> FlannelKing: ah, okay do you think that would work? If I am having trouble installing and/or booting the breezy live cd, shouldn't I just stay with warty, or maybe even hoary?
[09:42] <roccociro_> #hackers
[09:42] <Esco> what i have to do??
[09:42] <Chris_Tucker> im normally stuck on dialup, in about 50 minutes, i'll be on a connection that gets me 61kb a second (440+kbps) .. can anyone recommend anything i should get other than updates? (i am already up to date)
[09:42] <FlannelKing> lunari: as for that, I have no idea, sorry.
[09:42] <lwizardl> Hi
[09:42] <mwe> Esco: fix it
[09:42] <phuswork> anyone know if ieee80211 is in apt-get ?
[09:42] <phuswork> in the tree
[09:42] <mwe> Esco: paste the contents on pastebin.com
[09:42] <roccociro_> #hackernet
[09:42] <Esco> how can i fix it?
[09:42] <jcapote> is there a meta package for like development tools
[09:42] <mwe> Esco: paste the contents on pastebin.com
[09:42] <lwizardl> can sometell me what would be the best way to install kubuntu on a laptop with only 2gb hd
[09:42] <lunari> FlannelKing: If nothing else, I can just skip Breezy, maybe try a live cd of Dapper, who knows, maybe it's just a breezy problem :)
[09:42] <jcapote> such as gcc, make, autoconf
[09:42] <nickrud> lunari, not to jump in here, but warty to breezy directly is not supported, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:43] <IcemanV9> lunari: try it; warty straight to breezy .. if it fails for whatever reason, then warty to hoary (maybe to breezy?)
[09:43] <FlannelKing> oh, good to know. nickrud, thanks for the easy.
[09:43] <mwe> lwizardl: that's gonna be really tight
[09:43] <FlannelKing> erm, info.
[09:43] <mwe> lwizardl: I don't think you want kubuntu on such a small drive
[09:43] <lunari> IcemanV9, nickrud: Okay :)
[09:43] <IcemanV9> lunari: ignore my last msg then :)
[09:43] <FlannelKing> lunari: well, you could download a liveCD and see right now, and if it breaks, submit a bug report, maybe you can get it fixed by the release, if it's still a problem.
[09:43] <patrick522> mwe: how do i load notepad after iv closed it
[09:43] <graveson> how do i create an image file from a dvd (what does it take to get an answer in this chat room)
[09:43] <mwe> patrick522: huh?
[09:44] <lunari> FlannelKing: a live cd for dapper? Is there one out?
[09:44] <lwizardl> mwe: looking to have it for dev of html,php, c++ so all i'd need extra would be bluefish
[09:44] <IcemanV9> lunari: yea, have you try dapper?
[09:44] <Morrowyn> when is dapper coming out?
[09:44] <sfar-ubu> !firefox1.5
[09:44] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:44] <IcemanV9> !dapper
[09:44] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:44] <lunari> IcemanV9: No I haven't, I better go start the download :)
[09:44] <mwe> lwizardl: kubuntu-desktop installs _alot_ of krap
[09:44] <Morrowyn> thanks
[09:44] <Esco> how can i fix the /etc/host??
[09:44] <majd> mwe, is this how i mount it? sudo mount /dev/hda1 root /media/hda1
[09:44] <k31th> mwe: now this is wat i call an update http://pastebin.com/616796
[09:44] <mwe> majd: no
[09:45] <mwe> majd: sudo mount -o remount /media/hda1
[09:45] <patrick522> i done that command you gave me then i closed notepad do i have to put the command in again to get it
[09:45] <kingspawn> Esco: paste your error and your hosts file at pastebin
[09:45] <jcapote> anyone?
[09:45] <phuswork> what creates this folder /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include
[09:46] <Mischevious> jcapote, whats the problem?
[09:46] <mwe> k31th: sudo apt-get install kdelibs first or it will remove kde
[09:46] <Jimmey__> 'If you have a Linksys or Netgear router please get your firmware update.'?
[09:46] <c0ntrol> I installed Ubuntu and I am very happy with it. I used to use slackware but now not anymore :-=)
[09:46] <jcapote> Mischevious: is there a meta pacakge taht installs all development tools, such as make, autoconf and gcc
[09:46] <majd> mwe, mount: /media/hda1 not mounted already, or bad option
[09:46] <Mischevious> Jimmey__, their is an exploit
[09:46] <majd> did i screw something up?
[09:46] <Esco> kingspawn:now im in windows so i reboot and do all the things
[09:46] <Mischevious> jcapote, build-essential ?
[09:46] <Jimmey__> Mischevious, thanks
[09:46] <kingspawn> Esco: go for it
[09:46] <Mischevious> Jimmey__, i think that installs all of those..
[09:47] <lunari> IcemanV9: Do you have a link for the dapper live cd? I'm not seeing it on the ubuntu mirrors
[09:47] <mwe> majd: did you do -o remount?
[09:47] <patrick522> mwe: i done that command you gave me then i closed notepad, do i have to put the command in again to get it again or does it install it some where
[09:47] <mwe> majd: sudo umount /media/hda1 && sudo mount /media/hda1 then
[09:47] <IcemanV9> lunari: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[09:48] <mwe> majd: oh it's not mounted
[09:48] <mwe> majd: just sudo mount /media/hda1 then
[09:48] <Esco> ok just a moment
[09:48] <nazty> im havin a problem with dpkg, i just installed a package and its sayin its not installed
[09:48] <lunari> IcemanV9: Thank you :)
[09:48] <phuswork> I just did a fresh install of breezy and the following folders are emptry /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include
[09:48] <mwe> patrick522: you have to make a shorcut or type it again
[09:48] <ajd> any advice for a total noob on getting ubuntu to recognise his broadcom wireless adapter working? :P
[09:48] <phuswork> does anyone know what I can do to get them back
[09:48] <nazty> root@avirex:/home/nazty# dpkg -i jre_1.5.0_06-1_i386.deb
[09:48] <nazty> (Reading database ... 59326 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:48] <nazty> Preparing to replace jre 1.5.0_06-1 (using jre_1.5.0_06-1_i386.deb) ...
[09:48] <nazty> Unpacking replacement jre ...
[09:48] <nazty> Setting up jre (1.5.0_06-1) ...
[09:49] <nazty> should be installed right?
[09:49] <patrick522> mwe: how do i make a shortcut to it
[09:49] <lunari> IcemanV9: Downloading it now :)
[09:49] <mwe> patrick522: I don't use gnome. probably right click desktop
[09:49] <graveson> can someone please help me to burn a vob file to a dvdr which can be played on a dvd player
[09:49] <nickrud> nazty, yes, but there's one more step: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:50] <mwe> patrick522: target should be wine notepad.exe
[09:50] <ixup> How can i install Xnest on ubuntu
[09:50] <lunari> IcemanV9: My PCMCIA wifi card shall be fun.. it supposedly isn't supported, I have to use some kind of wrapper and use a windows driver.. then after that it's supposed to work perfect lol seems like a bit of work though
[09:50] <nazty> stills says its not installed
[09:50] <mwe> ixup: sudo apt-get install xnest
[09:51] <IcemanV9> lunari: maybe it'll work this time with dapper :)
[09:51] <nickrud> nazty, try dpkg -l sun*
[09:51] <Rawplayer> hey
[09:51] <lwizardl> any good "point of sale" applications for linux?
[09:51] <nazty> nope
[09:51] <Rawplayer> when is sendmail gonne be updated!!
[09:51] <lunari> IcemanV9: Maybe so :) It's a Netgear WG511v2
[09:52] <mwe> Rawplayer: does anyone use sendmail anymore?
[09:52] <nazty> dpkg -l jre* brings it up
[09:52] <IcemanV9> lunari: i had to make it work in hoary, then it worked like a charm in breezy.
[09:52] <ajd> any advice for a total noob on getting ubuntu to recognise my broadcom wireless adapter? :P
[09:52] <ChadStat> Hi
[09:52] <IcemanV9> lunari: mine was dlink dwl-g650
[09:52] <Blissex> ajd: get another adapter, one that is supported...
[09:52] <lunari> IcemanV9: ah, cool :)
[09:52] <orp> i have a webcam works with v4l2 but on gnomemeeting detect it
[09:53] <orp> can you help me
[09:53] <orp> ?
[09:53] <ajd> aw :( not supported at all?
[09:53] <Jimmey__> Where can I get a linksys firmware update, if not from the website?
[09:53] <mwe> ajd: it probably works with ndiswrapper
[09:53] <Blissex> ajd: you could use 'ndiswrapper' or Linuxant, but thats a hack.
[09:53] <ChadStat> I am trying to install firefox 1.5, My issue is that I have to directly click the shell script, It wont let me make a link to it with X11.
[09:53] <ajd> I'll check those two out
[09:53] <ajd> thanks :)
[09:54] <lunari> ndiswrapper is what I am supposed to have to use with my netgear wifi card
[09:54] <patrick522> does anyone know how to make a shortcut on ubuntu
[09:54] <skon> patrick522: shortcut to what
[09:54] <orp> ln -s
[09:54] <patrick522> i was told target would be  wine notepad.exe
[09:54] <counterclockwise> hi, I'm trying to build firefox and it says it needs gtk+-2.0 package. "locate gtk+-2.0.pc" only finds a file on my windows partition. I looked through the available development packages in synaptic and it's not obvious what deb do I need to install
[09:55] <elusive> I've Ubuntu Dapper on my laptop... today I did a dist-upgrade, and now, on boot, it stops at: Waiting for root filesystem.
[09:55] <orp> use apt-get
[09:55] <lunari> patrick522: Why are you trying to run notepad?
[09:55] <phuswork> can someone check on their system if /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build exists ?
[09:55] <lunari> patrick522: Have you tried any of the text editors that come with ubuntu?
[09:55] <nickrud> counterclockwise, libgtk2.0-dev
[09:55] <patrick522> i was testing out wine
[09:55] <jenda> What's the command to shut down DM?
[09:55] <lunari> patrick522: ah
[09:55] <patrick522> as i dont know how to use cedega
[09:55] <jenda> *GDM?
[09:56] <nick|here> ubuntu 5.10 live cd doesn't boot from a drive connected to ide controller
[09:56] <skon> Anyone konw how to register the plugin feed for Nessus under Ubuntu?
[09:56] <trappist> phuswork: mine does
[09:56] <phuswork> can someone check on their system if /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build exists ?
[09:56] <mwe> counterclockwise: install libgtk2.0-dev. but why are you compiling it yourself?
[09:56] <nickrud> jenda, from a virtual console after logging out, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[09:56] <lunari> patrick522: ah okay
[09:56] <Blissex> nick|here: odd, perhaps that is not supported.
[09:56] <phuswork> trappist did you do anything special to get it there ?
[09:56] <counterclockwise> mwe: because I'd like to be able to test my patches there :)
[09:56] <trappist> phuswork: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:56] <epinephrine> I'm trying to compile a program from source, and make is complaining that things like stdio.h and stdlib.h are missing. what do I need to install?
[09:56] <nazty> this is frustrating :.
[09:57] <crimsun> epinephrine: install build-essential
[09:57] <phuswork> i did still no go :(
[09:57] <mwe> counterclockwise: well install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:57] <patrick522> so how do i go about installing a game and wine
[09:57] <lunari> nazty: I've had my share of fustration lol
[09:57] <phuswork> trappist actually i didnt thanks
[09:57] <counterclockwise> mwe, nickrud: thanks. I don't have that listed in synaptic though, which is weird
[09:57] <lunari> nazty: getting 3d acceleration with my ati card, then getting it to run widescreen
[09:57] <lunari> nazty: getting x to boot on my other computer
[09:57] <Jimmey__> Where can I get information on this exploit of Linksys and Netgear routers?
[09:57] <mwe> counterclockwise: did you apt-get update?
[09:58] <epinephrine> crimsun: ah, I didn't bother installing that because it said it's for building debian packages. I see that it installs other stuff too now, thanks.
[09:58] <counterclockwise> oh wait, it is there, just not in development section :)
[09:58] <nickrud> counterclockwise, very wierd since it's in main to begin with
[09:58] <mwe> counterclockwise: what section was it in then?
[09:58] <nazty> yea?
[09:58] <nazty> damn :P
[09:59] <nazty> all my dependencies are install......
[09:59] <nazty> installed
[09:59] <patrick522> so how do i go about installing wine
[09:59] <nazty> now the java bin wont run
[09:59] <counterclockwise> mwe: do you have any ideas how to convince synaptic to tell me that? ;)
[09:59] <mwe> patrick522: sudo apt-get install wine
[09:59] <phuswork> damm still a no go
[10:00] <phuswork> linux-headers didnt populate thar dir
[10:00] <mwe> counterclockwise: not really. I use the command line tools. apt-cache show libgtk2.0-dev says Section: libdevel though
[10:00] <patrick522> it now says its installed now how do i use it
[10:00] <mwe> patrick522: type wine whatever.exe
[10:01] <grogoreo> hi
[10:01] <mwe> patrick522: be awary that only a tiny fraction of all windows programs will actually work though
[10:01] <grogoreo> would someone mind telling me the difference between 'User-Mode Linux Kernel' and Xen?
[10:02] <patrick522> is it possible to get a list of ones that work
[10:02] <mwe> patrick522: winehq.com
[10:02] <mwe> patrick522: frankscorner.org
[10:03] <nazty> root@avirex:/usr/bin# java
[10:03] <nazty> Error occurred during initialization of VM
[10:03] <nazty> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object
[10:03] <nazty> root@avirex:/usr/bin#
[10:03] <nazty> oops
[10:04] <Enthusiast78> That's it, people. After installing x-window-system and x-window-system-core I got a working X server. But evilwm wouldn't get into the scene, so after running dpkg-reconfigure evilwm it still didn't work. I then installed xfce4 and it just works.
[10:07] <mwe> Enthusiast78: isn't xfce4 cooler anyway?
[10:07] <shodanjr_gr> hello!!!
[10:07] <shodanjr_gr> Anyone around for a couple of questions?
[10:08] <mwe> Enthusiast78: or fluxbox
[10:08] <Enthusiast78> mwe Yup!
[10:08] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: just ask
[10:08] <shodanjr_gr> well
[10:08] <shodanjr_gr> i got a prob with booting Ubuntu live cd 5.10 on my laptop
[10:08] <shodanjr_gr> it crashed...
[10:09] <Esco> hey i have a problem can somebody fix my etc/hosts???
[10:09] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: yes? at what point?
[10:09] <shodanjr_gr> after the final loading screen with the progress bar
[10:09] <c0ntrol> i had trouble with 5.10 as well
[10:09] <shodanjr_gr> im doing another attempt now
[10:09] <c0ntrol> i needed to do a server install
[10:09] <c0ntrol> and then install the rest of the packages
[10:09] <mwe> Esco: paste it on pastebin.com
[10:09] <shodanjr_gr> without my wireless card pluged in
[10:09] <c0ntrol> but that was due to a bad CD
[10:09] <Esco> mwe: http://pastebin.com/616848
[10:09] <shodanjr_gr> and it still crashed
[10:09] <shodanjr_gr> actually it does not crash at the final loading screen
[10:09] <counterclockwise> mwe: libgtk2.0-devel was in Libraries - development. Now that I think of it, perfectly logical
[10:09] <shodanjr_gr> that one finishes working
[10:09] <shodanjr_gr> then i get a cursor at the top left of the screen
[10:09] <shodanjr_gr> and then it crashes
[10:10] <mwe> Esco: it says 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain.localhost
[10:10] <mwe> Esco: it should say 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[10:11] <Esco> mwe :oh its my mistake
[10:11] <shodanjr_gr> any ideas?
[10:11] <mwe> Esco: it will probably work if you correct that
[10:11] <VladimirBG> I have tryed every posible way to write cd's in ubuntu, but it just wont! It won't even make an image! I tryed natilus, I tryed graveman and both give some unclear reasons why!
[10:11] <Esco> mwe:i made a mistake when i typ it
[10:12] <Grark> Is there a graphical way to mount NTFS drives?
[10:12] <Infernal42> How to convert mp3s into ogg ?
[10:12] <Esco> so in ubuntu it is correct but it doesnt work
[10:12] <VladimirBG> yet in Win XP no problems!
[10:12] <kingspawn> VladimirBG: cdrecord -v -tao -dev=/dec/cdrom file.iso not working either?
[10:12] <counterclockwise> mwe: anyways, it passed configure stage, thanks
[10:12] <counterclockwise> nickrud: thank you too
[10:12] <VladimirBG> kingspawn, just a sec
[10:12] <mwe> Esco: so the file says 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost?
[10:12] <Esco> yes
[10:13] <mwe> Esco: what's up with line 12?
[10:13] <Infernal42>  How to convert mp3s into ogg ? which program does it? or how can I get the mp3 decoder for rythmbox ?
[10:13] <trappist> Infernal42: mp32ogg?
[10:13] <Infernal42> yes
[10:13] <mwe> Esco: you should probably remove that
[10:14] <Amaranth> !mp3
[10:14] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:14] <kingspawn> Esco: try moving your "router" entry to above the ipv6-stuff
[10:14] <VladimirBG> kingspawn, no, I get a bunch of warnings how it's modifyed version and this line grabed my eye "cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
[10:14] <VladimirBG> "
[10:14] <shodanjr_gr> any ideas for my problem people?
[10:14] <kingspawn> VladimirBG: i get those to, but cdrecord is crazy. it doesnt end up saying "will start writing in 10..9 seconds " etc?
[10:14] <mwe> kingspawn: I think the order in the hosts file does not matter?
[10:14] <kingspawn> mwe: i dont think so either, but strange things do happemn
[10:15] <kingspawn> s/happemn/happen
[10:15] <VladimirBG> kingspawn, no
[10:15] <kingspawn> VladimirBG: which /dev/xxx is your cdrom?
[10:15] <VladimirBG> kingspawn, I'll post output on #flood
[10:15] <Esco> mwe:ok and than it will work??
[10:16] <kingspawn> k
[10:16] <mwe> Esco: possibly. the entry seems like it does not belong in there at least
[10:16] <mwe> Esco: make a backup of the file before messing to much with it, though
[10:17] <nazty> where do i get make-jpkg?
[10:17] <Esco> ok i will test it
[10:17] <nickrud> nazty, java-package
[10:17] <VladimirBG> kingspawn, /dev/hdc
[10:17] <nazty> oh ok
[10:17] <mwe> Esco: what does 'hostname' give you ?
[10:18] <nazty> nickrud, its not on the repositories
[10:18] <VladimirBG> kingspawn, mounted as /media/cdrom0
[10:18] <Esco> mwe:what does you mean?
[10:18] <nickrud> nazty, step by step instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[10:19] <mwe> Esco: when you type "hostname" in a terminal, what do you get back?
[10:19] <VladimirBG> kingspawn, /dev/hdd is writter mounted as /media/cdrom1
[10:19] <mwe> Esco: no quotes though
[10:19] <Esco> oh i must look
[10:19] <kingspawn> VladimirBG: check #flood first. back in a couple of minutes
[10:19] <nickrud> nazty, and you need to enable multiverse repo, there's a link on how to on the link above
[10:19] <root_> hola
[10:20] <deizi> hey, where to get avi.* etc codecs?
[10:20] <shodanjr_gr> lil' help?
[10:20] <nickrud> !tell deizi about avi
[10:20] <karl_> VladimirBG: Install gnomebake
[10:20] <kung> gn8
[10:21] <lunari> GnomeBaker is awesome ;)
[10:21] <VladimirBG> karl_, I tryed graveman also, won't work
[10:21] <VladimirBG> kingspawn, tryed again, see flood
[10:22] <karl_> Try GnomeBaker...it works fine for me.
[10:22] <VladimirBG> karl_, I did
[10:23] <jayr168> how do I make an application start always as maximized?
[10:23] <VladimirBG> kingspawn, anything that cought your eye on the second output?
[10:24] <jenda> Which .* directories do i need to transfer to a second PC, if I want the default emty Ubuntu box to have the same settings as the other one? That is: without all the application settings?
[10:24] <legendarysim> hello?
[10:24] <nazty> nickrud, i already enabled them
[10:24] <mwe> jenda: what settings do you want to be transferred, precisely?
[10:24] <legendarysim> can i get some help, please?
[10:25] <mwe> !helpme
[10:25] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:25] <nickrud> nazty, if you enabled multiverse properly, you'd be seeing java-package. Could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin?
[10:25] <legendarysim> oh okay :)
[10:25] <nazty> pastebin?
[10:25] <legendarysim> I need to get a .bin file installed. I have no clue on how to do it.
[10:26] <nickrud> !pastebin
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[10:26] <jenda> mwe: all the gnome, x, and thatsuch - the look'n'fell of the system and settings of basic apps (terminal, nautilus...)
[10:26] <nazty> everything is unchecked in my sources.list
[10:26] <nazty> un commented
[10:27] <mwe> jenda: you probably need to transfer at least ~/.gnome* then chown owner recursively to that of the other pc
[10:27] <nickrud> nazty, make sure lines 19 & 20 have multiverse at the end
[10:27] <nickrud> nazty, assuming your sources are in the standard format
[10:27] <VladimirBG> how to solve the problem with cdrecord?
[10:27] <legendarysim> !helpme
[10:27] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:27] <jenda> mwe: the username is the same, so that should work, no? And what about .gconf and .gconfd?
[10:28] <legendarysim> lol
[10:28] <patrick522> frankscorner say you need      wine dreamweaver\ mx\ installer.exeM  to install dreamweaver but it doesnt work
[10:28] <legendarysim> !helpme  I need to get a .bin file installed. I have no clue on how to do it.
[10:28] <ubotu> legendarysim: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[10:28] <mwe> jenda: is the id the same?
[10:28] <jenda> legendarysim: please don't play with the bot :)
[10:28] <nickrud> jenda, yes, .gconf
[10:28] <jenda> mwe: yes
[10:28] <patrick522> does any body know why
[10:28] <mwe> jenda: the id command in a terminal will say
[10:28] <jenda> ok... thanks
[10:28] <mwe> jenda: the numeric id that is
[10:28] <alexnicol> Evening
[10:28] <legendarysim> Well, not getting any attention...
[10:28] <legendarysim> Need entertainment...
[10:28] <nazty> nickrud i posted it
[10:28] <Mabus06> how do I change the username of UID 1000 ?
[10:29] <alexnicol> Quick Quiz:  Is it as simple as downloading the artwork package to install new gnome themes?
[10:29] <nazty> but i put your name by accident
[10:29] <jenda> mwe: looks the same to me uid=1000(jenda)
[10:29] <mwe> jenda: good
[10:29] <alexnicol> or - is it possible to get KDE installed without downloading kubuntu?
[10:29] <yamathan> Hey, I notice that under ALSA the left channel is more active than the right channel.
[10:29] <yamathan> "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" did it for me.
[10:29] <burgermann> Hi. When I connect to my canon camera through the camera:/ protocol and try to transfer pictures it tries, but stops and gives the error (translated from danish): Protocol process died unexpected. Is that a bug?
[10:29] <burgermann> I'm using KDE
[10:29] <nazty> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10664
[10:30] <patrick522> frankscorner say you need      wine dreamweaver\ mx\ installer.exeM  to install dreamweaver but it doesnt work does any body know why
[10:30] <yamathan> It doesn't really install Kubuntu exclusively.
[10:30] <mwe> jenda: then just tar up the directories and unpack. I haven't tested this myself, but in theory I think it should work
[10:30] <yamathan> It works quite well, though.
[10:30] <stoned> kubuntu-desktop installs a LOAD of CRAP.  try only kde-core and kynaptic then just build from there.  only install apps you need.  or you can still go the full desktop route
[10:30] <mwe> jenda: probably the .gconf stuff too
[10:30] <nickrud> nazty, line 19 should be deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse , and line 20 must end with universe multiverse also
[10:31] <yamathan> stoned, for me space isn't an issue and the extras were good idea telling Alex about that, though.
[10:31] <elizabeth> hi, Ive just installed ubuntu oon an old tosh laptop and I need help with the screen res
[10:31] <yamathan> *were great -- good idea ...
[10:31] <jenda> mwe: I have no trouble transferring, (scp), but I'm not 100% certain which ones to move. I'm guessing that there's nothing in /home that could screw up the lappy, right?
[10:31] <nickrud> nazty, also, line 4 should be deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[10:31] <mwe> patrick522: because you need a specific version of wine and a lot of handwork to make it work. also dreamweaver must be the exact same version
[10:31] <legendarysim> ...
[10:31] <nickrud> nazty, that gives you the 'standard' sources
[10:31] <mwe> patrick522: It's hard work getting it to work
[10:32] <stoned> its not a matter of space, rather clutter.  I find that kde/ubuntu desktop/kubuntu desktop meta packages install TOO much stuff.  I personally just use gnome-core or kde-core and I install apps as I need em
[10:32] <Mischevious> hm
[10:32] <patrick522> ok
[10:32] <mwe> patrick522: I don't suppose you have wine 0.9.2 installed
[10:32] <elizabeth> csn snyone help with my screen res problem its stuck on 640x480 snf no other choices
[10:33] <shiv> how can I see trash can on my desktop?
[10:33] <stoned> elizabeth, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:33] <patrick522> how do i find that out
[10:33] <legendarysim> how do i install a .bin file.
[10:33] <deizi> how to remove azu, original, while i want to install bittornado?
[10:34] <stoned> legendarysim, sh blah.bin
[10:34] <nazty> lube 4?
[10:34] <mwe> jenda: you should make sure you don't overwrite anything you wanna keep. also tar up the files to preserve correct perms
[10:34] <legendarysim> gee that was it
[10:34] <stoned> legendarysim, also, you can do chmod +x blah.bin && ./blah.bin
[10:34] <legendarysim> i feel stupid
[10:34] <BurgerMann> does anyone know why my camera:/ protocol process dies when i transfer files from the camera?
[10:34] <shiv> how can I see trash can on my desktop?
[10:34] <nazty> nickrud, line 4 is blank
[10:34] <Grark> Followup mount question, I ran diskmounter, but it didn't pickup my last SATA HD
[10:34] <nickrud> nazty, I noticed :)
[10:34] <nazty> hehehe
[10:34] <nazty> so just take the -src off of line 5?
[10:35] <stoned> why don't people use source o matic
[10:35] <jenda> mwe: it's a fresh install, and won't scp keep the permissions?
[10:35] <stoned> its very good easy and simple
[10:35] <patrick522> mwe: how do i find out wat version i have or where do i get version 0.9.2
[10:35] <legendarysim> THX STONED
[10:35] <mwe> patrick522: dpkg -l|grep wine
[10:35] <GMachine_24> If my firewire drive is connected and working - it is an external hard drive - where in the Ubuntu directory scheme will I find it? Thanks.
[10:35] <stoned> !source o matic
[10:35] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, stoned
[10:35] <stoned> !sources.list
[10:35] <L0sT> Hi guys. How do I free up tmpfs?
[10:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:35] <mwe> patrick522: just try with your current version first
[10:36] <lunari> What's the command to see you kernel version?
[10:36] <mwe> patrick522: don't expect dreamweaver 8 to work though. it wont. you _need_ dreamweaver mx
[10:36] <stoned> lunari, man uname
[10:36] <victori> in which branch is gnome 2.14 in?
[10:36] <victori> is it in the unstable only branch?
[10:36] <stoned> victori, dapper drake
[10:36] <victori> k
[10:36] <stoned> just another 5-6 weeks
[10:36] <stoned> hopefully
[10:36] <Phinite> has anyone installed the bugzilla out of apt on 5.10?
[10:37] <L0sT> !tmpfs
[10:37] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, L0sT
[10:37] <nazty> nickrud, msg me
[10:37] <nickrud> stoned, two months plus (jun 1)
[10:37] <patrick522> where itioeyboard  l
[10:37] <mwe> patrick522: huh?
[10:37] <stoned> so they ARE going to delay it
[10:37] <stoned> dammit :(
[10:37] <GMachine_24> hi - anyone? the location of my external firewire hard drive - where will it 'appear' in my Ubuntu directory?
[10:37] <patrick522> where is this on the keyboard  l
[10:38] <nickrud> I was gonna have a good birthday present ;(
[10:38] <stoned> patrick522, usually on the backslash '\' key
[10:38] <stoned> patrick522, shift + \ = |
[10:38] <gnomer> anyone know ROR?
[10:38] <stoned> !ror
[10:38] <ubotu> stoned: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:39] <MonsieurBon> anyone knows a goot LaTeX program? I don't want Wysiwyg, I want classic typesetting
[10:39] <mwe> MonsieurBon: you mean an editor?
[10:40] <whyami> how can I rip a (noncommercial) DVD to some standard (pref quicktime) video format?
[10:40] <gnomer> ruby?
[10:40] <Random_Transit> MonsieurBon...try Kile
[10:40] <MonsieurBon> mwe, yes
[10:40] <mwe> MonsieurBon: I use emacs with acutex
[10:40] <stoned> whyami, apt-cache search dvd|grep rip
[10:40] <mwe> MonsieurBon: for all reports at university
[10:41] <patrick522> mwe:  i done that code and it came up with  ii wine  0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1
[10:41] <L0sT> I need some help.  How do I free up tmpfs? I cant start xserver
[10:41] <MonsieurBon> Random_Transit, what do I need for Kile?
[10:41] <mwe> patrick522: yes. just try
[10:41] <k31th> http://pastebin.com/616920 I get this error when upgrading.
[10:41] <mwe> patrick522: do you have dreamweaver mx? dreamweaver 8 wont work
[10:41] <Random_Transit> monsieurbon...KDE for starters
[10:41] <whyami> stoned: thanks!
[10:42] <MonsieurBon> Random_Transit, so no Kile! :)
[10:42] <patrick522> where do i get mx version from
[10:42] <stoned> oh crap my lips just cracked i opened my mouth and they were dry and now they are split down the middle and they bleed
[10:42] <stoned> this is not good
[10:42] <stout2__> bye
[10:43] <Mischevious> how do i setup sudo so that i only need to enter my pass once per session, or never.........?
[10:43] <mwe> MonsieurBon: IMHO nothing is comparable to emacs with acutex
[10:43] <MonsieurBon> mwe, you meen auctex?
[10:44] <mwe> Mischevious: disabling the password is stupid. so is disabling the timeout
[10:44] <patrick522> mwe:where do i get mx version from
[10:44] <Mischevious> mwe, why?
[10:44] <stoned> Mischevious, you want to look at nopasswd or timescale variable in sudoers.  man sudoers and hit / then type in timescale and it should bring you to the part in the manpage about that.  read it
[10:44] <Phinite> I have an apt installed version of bugzilla on 5.10 that isn't sending mail out.  where can I check the mail queues and what can I do to fix this (where do I look next)
[10:44] <Mischevious> mwe, i'm the only user on this comp
[10:44] <mwe> Mischevious: because it's very unsafe
[10:44] <mwe> Mischevious: still
[10:44] <Mischevious> mwe, okay..
[10:44] <MonsieurBon> mwe, do I need tetex-base or something?
[10:44] <Cooner750> Is anyone here aware that the download link for the .zip of the windows drivers for the ZyXEL ZyAir G-302 Wireless card is broken? I emailed them, but like all companies I get no response. This is the broken download link: ftp://ftp.us.zyxel.com/ZyAIR_G-302/driver/G-302_V6.0.0.18_Driver.zip    It's my luck that I have a card I can't get drivers for
[10:44] <mwe> Mischevious: I guess you're on the internet
[10:44] <Mischevious> mwe, okay good point
[10:44] <mwe> MonsieurBon: yes
[10:44] <stoned> Mischevious, looka bove
[10:45] <Mischevious> stoned, yea thanks, but i guess mwe is right
[10:45] <stoned> Mischevious, it doesn't matter really
[10:45] <pppoe_dude> hi. what's a good developement environment for gnome? comparable to kdevelop and such.
[10:45] <mwe> Mischevious: use sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need to do a lot as superuser
[10:45] <mwe> Mischevious: it wont expire until you log out
[10:45] <stoned> Mischevious, these are security practices for enterprise level.  For a regular home user, don't make too much a biggy out of it
[10:46] <stoned> you can even sudo su and then passwd and set a password for root
[10:46] <mwe> stoned: that's crap. don't recommend your bad habits
[10:46] <Phinite> can someone point me to where I can look at the outgoing mail logs?
[10:46] <stoned> mwe, sure but whats bad about it?
[10:47] <pppoe_dude> or like a visual development environment for C++ or C
[10:47] <mwe> stoned: security. there's no need to open potetial security holes
[10:47] <patrick522> mwe:where do i get mx version from
[10:47] <stoned> i personally believe sudo to be the biggest load of crap but thats just my personal opinion. you don't want me to tell people about it, then I wont.  just don't tell me my habit are bad, don't judge lest you be judged
[10:47] <pppoe_dude> something like netbeans but for c++
[10:47] <mwe> patrick522: I don't know
[10:47] <patrick522> ok thanks for the help
[10:47] <mwe> stoned: just using sudo -i when you need a root prompt is sufficient
[10:48] <Mischevious> don't fight over me guys
[10:48] <stoned> mwe, I am well aware of the sudo's switches, thank you
[10:48] <Mischevious> their is enough of me to go around
[10:48] <kbouss> salut
[10:48] <pppoe_dude> Mischevious, sudo xterm
[10:48] <patrick522> ok letssay ihave the mx version what do i do then
[10:48] <mwe> stoned: so why would you enable root login and make sudo work without passwords?
[10:49] <Mischevious> i'd much rather be safe then sorry
[10:49] <Mischevious> i'd hate to get hacked
[10:49] <stoned> mwe, I have my reasons, but I can already tell that you are hoplessly in love with sudo, so my reaons will never be valid or good enough.  lets not even discuss it.  let it go man
[10:49] <mwe> Mischevious: good point
[10:49] <kbouss> salut
[10:49] <Mischevious> !fr
[10:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:49] <kbouss> i am french
[10:49] <Mischevious> i know
[10:49] <Mischevious> you guys always say salut
[10:49] <MonsieurBon> mwe, I installed auctex, and tetex-base that's all then for emacs?
[10:49] <mwe> stoned: all right.
[10:50] <kbouss> how are you
[10:50] <mwe> MonsieurBon: maybe tetex-extra too
[10:50] <patrick522> mwe: ok lets say i have the mx version what do i do then
[10:50] <mwe> patrick522: type wine dreamwever.exe or whatever the installation file name is
[10:51] <patrick522> does the file have be in certain folder
[10:51] <mwe> patrick522: no
[10:51] <patrick522> ok thanks forall your help
[10:51] <Madeye> guys, I';m trying to install Ekiga on breezy but I'm not able to import the GPG key
[10:51] <mwe> patrick522: yw
[10:51] <MonsieurBon> mwe, how do i install packages like fancyheaders or similar?
[10:52] <stoned> i feel sick
[10:52] <mwe> MonsieurBon: fancyheaders is in tetex-extra, I think
[10:52] <MonsieurBon> mwe, ok, thanks
[10:53] <mwe> MonsieurBon: are you already familiar with emacs?
[10:53] <MonsieurBon> mwe, yes, a bit. why do you ask?
[10:54] <mwe> MonsieurBon: I was going to tell you it would take a little time to getting used to it
[10:54] <henrik_> how do i switch from utf-8 to iso-8859-1 in dapper?
[10:54] <michael117> I am having troubles with my sound working universally in Ubuntu. The only sound I can get is from XMMS and system sounds like whenever I click the button to show desktop. How can I get sound to work on all programs like, inside of firefox, totem, vlc, etc?
[10:54] <mwe> MonsieurBon: but it all worth it
[10:55] <MonsieurBon> mwe, I used emacs a lot before for c++, no latex so far though
[10:55] <mwe> henrik_: change it in /etc/environment
[10:55] <mwe> henrik_: why would you though?
[10:55] <lunari> where can I get the 2.6.8.1-3-386 kernel source?
[10:55] <k31th> anyone got any ideals ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148726
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> My trash applet seems to be confused (Gnome).  It shows it as being full, mouseover claims 2 items, but there's nothing in it, and I've emptied it multiple times.  What's up?
[10:55] <mwe> MonsieurBon: you won't get into trouble then
[10:55] <MonsieurBon> mwe, i suppose not
[10:55] <black_13> i am trying build a kqemu but i get the error: asm/param.h: No such file or directory
[10:55] <henrik_> mwe: and then?
[10:56] <MonsieurBon> mwe, it's rather latex giving me trouble then emacs! :)
[10:56] <henrik_> after editing the file
[10:56] <mwe> henrik_: then you're good to go after a reboot
[10:56] <henrik_> alright.
[10:56] <henrik_> another question, can i get the whole system in for example swedish for one user and english for another?
[10:56] <mwe> henrik_: make sure you have that locale compile though
[10:56] <anstei> i'm trying to get Teamspeak (a voip software) running - using aoss my microphone works, but i can't hear anything. any ideas?
[10:57] <mwe> henrik_: the whole system?
[10:57] <henrik_> yeah, kde, gnome apps, console
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> henrik_: I got Gnome to do that once, but never succeeded in terminal.
[10:57] <juztin> how do i upgrade firefox?
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> !firefox1.5
[10:57] <mwe> henrik_: you can set LANG and LANGUAGE in .bashrc and all logins for that user will use that language
[10:57] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:57] <juztin> ty tonyyarusso
[10:57] <mwe> henrik_: you might need to install language packs and configure you wm though
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> mwe: I did it with LANG, is LANGUAGE what sets it for terminal?
[10:58] <henrik_> mwe: do you have an example of what i shoudl set it to? can't get it to work
[10:58] <mwe> tonyyarusso: those should
[10:58] <mwe> tonyyarusso: env|grep LANG
[10:58] <MonsieurBon> good night
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Cool.
[10:59] <mwe> henrik_: what does env|grep LANG say?
[10:59] <mwe> henrik_: do you have the language packs installed and the locale you're trying to use compiled?
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Why does the language variable say en twice?  (LANGUAGE=en_CA:en)
[11:01] <mwe> tonyyarusso: LANGUAGE should look like that
[11:02] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: it is a path, like "$PATH"
[11:02] <mwe> tonyyarusso: I don't know the ins and outs of if but it looks correct
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> mwe: It seems redundant.
[11:02] <mwe> tonyyarusso: it looks similar here though
[11:02] <simonpca> !dialup
[11:02] <ubotu> methinks dialup is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[11:02] <simonpca> !lucent
[11:02] <ubotu> simonpca: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> mwe: All right.  Mysterious but true I guess.
[11:03] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: it says ''first try canadian english, then plain english''.
[11:03] <simonpca> !winmodem
[11:03] <ubotu> I guess winmodem is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto for instructions on setting up your modem (including winmodems). Additional info can be found at http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Blissex: Ohh.  So if it was something like LANGUAGE=en_CA:en:fr_CA , and I didn't have any English language packs installed, then it would try to revert to Canadian French?
[11:04] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: yes, thats how most locale settings work.
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Blissex: Now it makes sense.  Thank you.
[11:05] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: BTW same thing in browsers but it is rarely supported by web sites.
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> Blissex: All right, I'll keep that in mind.
[11:06] <miguelanxo> Hi there
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[11:07] <j-linux> Anyone here use SciTE?  Is there a way to get the latest version and to set it as default text editor on Ubuntu breezy?
[11:07] <miguelanxo> I'm using a ubuntu live-cd disk in an old toshiba laptop, using its USB (1.1) port to copy the internal HDD to an external USB2.0 one.  Could someone give an speed estimation on the transfer speed of usb-mass-storage (USB 1.1)?
[11:08] <Mitja> I'm trying to remap some keys, but xmodmap doesn't work. Can someone help me?
[11:08] <miguelanxo> could it be near 12Mbps?
[11:08] <miguelanxo> I mean 1.5MB/s (12Mbps/8)
[11:09] <j-linux> No one uses SciTE?  Give it a try.  Takes some editing of the configuration file to get it right, but it is a great editor.
[11:09] <miguelanxo> vim works for me
[11:09] <dv_> yeah scite is nice
[11:09] <batman> can someone tell me what i need to install for libncurses or libcurses?
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> miguelanxo: Not sure, you could google USB 1.1 speed though.
[11:10] <dv_> j-linux, update-alternatives --config editor doesnt work ?
[11:10] <miguelanxo> tonyyarusso: 12Mbps teorethical
[11:10] <j-linux> dv_:  I didn't try that.  Do I just type that in a terminal?
[11:10] <dv_> well yes
[11:10] <miguelanxo> I just want a real estimation
[11:10] <dv_> but
[11:10] <dv_> run it with sudo
[11:10] <miguelanxo> whatever, I will leave it copying for the rest of the night
[11:11] <dv_> sudo update-alternatives --config editor doesnt work ?
[11:11] <dv_> h
[11:11] <dv_> damn clipboard :)
[11:11] <dv_> sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[11:11] <j-linux> dv_: that only lists 4 of the many editors that I have on the system.
[11:11] <j-linux> not scite
[11:11] <dv_> weird
[11:11] <Fredde> i'm having a mayor problem, I can't run gnome
[11:11] <Fredde> I get an error messafe
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> miguelanxo: Ah.  Well, I would guess that sort of thing would run pretty close to spec.
[11:11] <dv_> I think there is an "alternatives" dir somewhere
[11:11] <dv_> filled with symlinks
[11:12] <Fredde> I can't copy the error text
[11:12] <dv_> find it, and change the "editor" symlink
[11:12] <dv_> this should do
[11:12] <j-linux> dv_: vim, ed, nano, emacs21.. but not SciTE, mousepad, Kate, and others...
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> miguelanxo: How big's the disk.
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> ?
[11:12] <idefix__> ok, I would really like to know what exactly happens when GAIM displays "user has closed the conversation window."
[11:12] <miguelanxo> 985 MB ocuppied
[11:12] <idefix__> something happens, some electron maybe goes somewhere in the universe
[11:12] <idefix__> anyone?!
[11:12] <Grark> Ok, is there a way to edit what is put in the "places"?  After I ran the diskmounter script, 2/3 hard drives showed up under the "computer" icon.  I've mounted the 3rd by editing the /etc/fstab and it works, but how do I get it under that quick reference in places? (And yes bookmarks are my last resort) thank you.
[11:13] <j-linux> dv_: hmm... I typed "find alternatives" but it says no such file or directory... I'll search around.
[11:13] <miguelanxo> it shouldn't run for too long, my first estimation is 15mins
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> miguelanxo: So theoretical puts you at about 11 minutes.
[11:13] <abre> could someone please point me to the file used for mounting Hds?
[11:13] <j-linux> oh... "locate alternatives" found something...
[11:13] <Phlosten> idefix__, that the user 'has' closed the window?
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> abre: /etc/fstab
[11:13] <idefix__> Phlosten but when you ask them they sometimes deny!
[11:14] <idefix__> are they lying?
[11:14] <abre> tonyyarusso, cheers
[11:14] <Phlosten> idefix__, there is also the chat timeout fucntion
[11:14] <stoned> hi, I have previes enabled for largest file size and ALL protocols and I still can't see any previews in konqueror
[11:14] <idefix__> aaaah
[11:14] <stoned> there are no thumbnails
[11:14] <idefix__> thanks Phlosten, so that is it then
[11:14] <Phlosten> idefix__, if the conversation is idle the chat session is automatically closed until someone types something again
[11:14] <abre> can i rerun the fstab thing, instead of rebooting?
[11:14] <Phlosten> idefix__, more than likely
[11:15] <Phlosten> abre,  mount -s
[11:15] <ccc_> abre: sudo mount -a
[11:15] <Phlosten> sorry
[11:15] <Phlosten> abre,  mount -a
[11:15] <xenoxaos> Is there any way to run a script with calls to programs that require root privs (iwconfig, dhclient, etc) as a regular user without having to enter a password everytime?
[11:15] <Phlosten> ah yes, sudo often help
[11:17] <i> hi
[11:17] <Matthewv> hi
[11:17] <ic56> xenoxaos: how often would you want to be asked for a password?  any user or just a particular user?
[11:17] <Phlosten> miguelanxo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb#Transfer_speed
[11:18] <xenoxaos> ic56: i'm setting up a laptop for my girlfriend and i need to give her a button to click to get her on a network at school...so i just want one user, and i never want it to ask for a pw
[11:18] <abre> how can i make my ntfs hds user readable?
[11:19] <patrick522> is it possible to install unreal tournament 2004 on Ubuntu
[11:19] <Matthewv> xenoxaos, so you're just having one login.. auto logging in?
[11:19] <xenoxaos> maybe
[11:19] <Phlosten> abre, you only can read it as root now?
[11:19] <abre> Phlosten, yeah
[11:20] <patrick522> is it possible to install unreal tournament 2004 on Ubuntu fromt he dvd which i brought
[11:20] <fdr> hi... is there a way to have my desktop wallpaper automatically changed every X minutes, randomly chosen from a list of images? thank you!
[11:20] <abre> patrick522, i doubt it
[11:20] <Phlosten> abre, you need to modify your fstab entry then
[11:20] <abre> patrick522, might want to give wine a try
[11:20] <miguelanxo> almost ready
[11:20] <ltibor65> Hi! How can I switch off UTF8?
[11:20] <patrick522> how do i do that from cd
[11:20] <Matthewv> fdr there is a program around called wallpaper-tray or something like that.. check the repos
[11:21] <jadams> can anyone here tell me how to get ruby 1.8.4 or 1.8.2 installed under ubuntu?
[11:21] <abre> Phlosten, how come my ext3 drives are by default but myntfs ones arent?
[11:21] <ic56> xenoxaos: one way of doing this is by setting the suid bit on a program.  There might be a way to tell sudo to *not* ask for a password.  Try reading the sudo  and sudoers manpages.
[11:21] <patrick522> abre: how do i do that
[11:21] <abre> jadams, i compiled ruby 1.8.4 from source
[11:22] <xenoxaos> suid bit?
[11:22] <abre> patrick522, no idea havent tried
[11:22] <[cro] smiley> can ubuntu wake up himself from standby at exact time?
[11:22] <fdr> Matthewv thanks, but the closest match i get is "wallpaper", which doesn't do the job...
[11:22] <jadams> patrick522: abre: yeah, I've just had a truckload of problems on my laptop - I've got it fine on the desktop and in my living room
[11:22] <Phlosten> abre, just the way ntfs is setup to be handled by default i guess
[11:23] <abre> xenoxaos, there is definatly a way to use sudo without a password, but i cant remember how
[11:23] <Grark> ok, I guess there's no help for Grark today
[11:23] <Matthewv> fdr, the package wallpaper-tray exists in dapper only... sorry, but I think you can download wallpaper-tray at gnome-files.org and try installing that
[11:23] <fdr> oh, thanks
[11:24] <ltibor65> Amaranth, how can I switch off UTF8?
[11:24] <xenoxaos> abre: using the -S option reads the password from stdin, so `echo "password" | sudo -S whatever"
[11:24] <xenoxaos> i didnt even think of trying to use sudo
[11:24] <Amaranth> ltibor65: why would you?
[11:24] <patrick522> has anybody played ut2004 on ubuntu
[11:25] <abre> xenoxaos, no there is definatly an option in the sudoers file, for using it without a password
[11:25] <Phlosten> abre, your fstab entry should look like this '/dev/hda1  /media/mountdir   ntfs   ro,user   0   0'
[11:25] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to use a directory mounted through Samba as my home folder. GNOME fails to launch with "Unable to lock ICE authority file /home/student/.ICEauthority" - Any ideas?
[11:25] <Matthewv> fdr sry... check out http://planetearthworm.com/projects/wp_tray/
[11:25] <Grark> Good night all, happy ubuntu'ing
[11:26] <ltibor65> Amaranth, I want to start VDR in terminal, but it says:"please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR".
[11:26] <abre> Phlosten, so replace defaults with ro,user
[11:26] <Amaranth> ltibor65: VDR is broken
[11:26] <Amaranth> ltibor65: what is it?
[11:26] <Phlosten> abre, yup, should be all good after that
[11:26] <Grark> Woah.
[11:26] <Amaranth> (i don't know how to turn of UTF-8)
[11:26] <Grark> It just magically showed up and started working.
[11:26] <patrick522> is there a programme to record my desktop
[11:26] <Phlosten> abre, ro=read-only, user=user access
[11:27] <bimberi> patrick522: 'istanbul' is one
[11:27] <fdr> Matthewv, thanks, that's exactly what i was looking for
[11:27] <ltibor65> VDR is Video Disk Recorder for DVB cards.
[11:27] <Matthewv> fdr no problems
[11:27] <maquaro> Can someone quickly tell me if it is possible to install Ubuntu on a PowerPC computer that has a hard drive without an HFS+ partition?
[11:27] <patrick522> bimeri: do you have a link
[11:27] <ic56> xenoxaos: the suid bit is what enables a user to acquire privileges she doesn't have.  It is set in the file permissions and causes an executable to run under the userid of the executables owner rather than the invoker's userid. The sudo program, for example, is owned by user root and has that bit set.
[11:28] <Drac[Server] > maquaro, I'd imagine so.
[11:28] <abre> Phlosten, nah didnt work
[11:28] <bimberi> patrick522: http://zaheer.merali.org/mediawiki/index.php/Istanbu
[11:28] <bimberi> patrick522: http://zaheer.merali.org/mediawiki/index.php/Istanbul   sorry
[11:28] <[cro] smiley> can ubuntu wake up himself from standby at exact time?
[11:29] <patrick522> cheers
[11:29] <Phlosten> abre, after you ran mount -a?
[11:29] <abre> yeah
[11:29] <bimberi> patrick522: np
[11:29] <abre> they mounted
[11:29] <abre> but they wernt accesable
[11:29] <Phlosten> abre, one sec
[11:29] <patrick522> that would be a good idea ubuntu wakin its self up
[11:29] <solid_liq> anyone know of any guides to configure my postfix mailserver so it won't be an open relay?  I won't make it accessible to the internet until it requires authentication, but the guides I've seen so far seem to gloss over this configuration aspect.
[11:29] <colokevin> all: upon a clean reboot, i do an ifdown of eth0 (my ethernet card), then an ifup of wlan0 (my wireless), and wireless connectivity works fine.  but, if I do an "ifdown wlan0" (say I want to go back to wired), then later do an "ifup wlan0", without reboot, the wireless never gets a dhcp lease.  it works fine w/ a clean reboot though.  any ideas?
[11:30] <schtinky> ok, i've been on fedora for years... this is my first ubuntu install. My laptop's resolution is at 1280x800, yet I can't get it to show more than 1024x768. My xorg.conf shows only 1280x800 modes... where is it getting 1024x768?
[11:30] <lunari_> Yo!
[11:30] <lunari> :)
[11:30] <lunari_> There we go
[11:30] <Phlosten> abre, just looking about alternative
[11:30] <lunari_> Got warty up and going on my thinkpad :)
[11:30] <bimberi> !resolution
[11:30] <IdleOne> !tell schtinky about fixres
[11:30] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:30] <lunari_> Had to swap out wireless cards, couldn't get my new one to work, installing ndiswrapper is too much for me LOL
[11:30] <abre> Phlosten, cheers
[11:30] <devians> lunari_, warty wouldnt install on my thinkpad
[11:31] <Phlosten> warty?
[11:31] <solid_liq> !postfix
[11:31] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, solid_liq
[11:31] <solid_liq> !openrelay
[11:31] <ubotu> solid_liq: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:31] <gostview> Hi all, I've got a problem with ICEautority, I read some thread about this problem, and I've change owner with command "chown /home/user/ICEautority, but when I restarted my ubuntu the problem split out again. I removed the file, but I still haven't restart my ubuntu, what is the reason why ICEautority got this error?
[11:31] <lunari_> devians: This is an i1200 from the end of 2001, I couldn't get dapper or breezy to even load. It would freeze up at the hardware and cd-rom detect thing at 86%
[11:32] <lunari_> devians: I read a bunch of things on the forums, yet nothing was able to get me past it
[11:32] <devians> warty freezes up on this one when its checking apt sources
[11:32] <lunari_> devians: although warty installed just fine so who knows lol
[11:32] <devians> yeah
[11:32] <Phlosten> abre, try 'ro,umask=0000'
[11:32] <devians> i gave up and learnt to deal with windows
[11:32] <bimberi> gostview: the file is .ICEauthority  the dot is significant
[11:33] <devians> Phlosten, as in Phlosten Paradise?
[11:33] <Phlosten> devians, well the movie spells it with a F
[11:33] <devians> kudos
[11:33] <devians> thats a good movie
[11:33] <Phlosten> devians, but yeah
[11:34] <gostview> bimberi: significant? not for me, could you explain please
[11:34] <lunari_> lol, I wanted to turn this into my little linux toy, and put my main systems back to windows
[11:34] <lunari_> mainly because of WoW
[11:34] <lunari_> and CS:S
[11:34] <colokevin> can anyone recommend an 802.11g card (pcmcia or usb?) that works very easily w/ Ubuntu... i'm talkin, nearly out-of-the-box working...
[11:34] <IdleOne> gostview, a . in front of a filemane means it is invisible
[11:34] <lunari_> wine emulated them horrid, and I don't want ot pay for cedega
[11:35] <bimberi> gostview: the file name is .ICEauthority, you need to execute the command "sudo chown user:user /home/user/.ICEauthority'
[11:35] <abre> Phlosten, replace user with umask?
[11:35] <gostview> bimberi: ... :) you right, I forgot to put it
[11:35] <lunari_> even in the cedega trial, it wouldn't let me run them widescreen :0
[11:35] <bimberi> gostview: :)
[11:35] <lunari_> so back to windows for my main systems
[11:35] <IdleOne> gostview, also Linux is very specific about its filenames so .filenale and filename or Filename are 3 seperate and distinctive files
[11:35] <lunari_> lol
[11:35] <Phlosten> abre, correct
[11:35] <DBAlex> hey
[11:36] <DBAlex> is anyone here using Tesco Broadband?
[11:36] <Drac[Server] > 'lo? I had a samba question... Maybe if I explain things better, people will try to help me.
[11:37] <dj-fu> Ask away
[11:37] <Drac[Server] >  I'm trying to set up a small example of how my school can use Linux as its pirmary OS, even with networking and such. I will then present my finalized, tweaked and networked ubuntu machines to the tech department. I hope to convince them to switch. Will somebody here be willing to help me with the issue?
[11:37] <dj-fu> shoot
[11:37] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to use a directory mounted through Samba as my home folder. GNOME fails to launch with "Unable to lock ICE authority file /home/student/.ICEauthority" - Any ideas?
[11:38] <dj-fu> what are the permissions on ~/.ICEauthority?
[11:38] <gostview> IdleOne: ok, but anyone know the reason why ICEautority give this problem on login and why the owner was changed?
[11:38] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, they seem unrelated. I tried 777, and that didn't work.
[11:38] <IdleOne> gostview, bimberi explained that a few lines up :)
[11:38] <dj-fu> Drac[Server] , what are the user:group on it?
[11:38] <dj-fu> what is **
[11:38] <IdleOne> gostview,
[11:38] <IdleOne> bimberi gostview: the file name is .ICEauthority, you need to execute the command "sudo chown user:user /home/user/.ICEauthority'
[11:38] <bimberi> gostview: I think it happens if a GUI app is run as root
[11:38] <DBAlex> argh
[11:39] <DBAlex> what would the reasons be for my internet only loading certain websites?
[11:39] <abre> Phlosten, excellent that works, however the icons on the desktop have disapeared?
[11:39] <DBAlex> im guessing its my ISP's fault :(
[11:39] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, Ah! the group was root! I just changed it to the user. Think that'll work?
[11:39] <dj-fu> Drac[Server] , Probably.
[11:40] <dj-fu> -rw------- 1 deejay deejay 1032 2006-03-23 09:53 /home/deejay/.ICEauthority
[11:40] <DBAlex> anyone?
[11:40] <dj-fu> Here's mine.
[11:40] <Phlosten> abre, might need to logout and back in to the window manager
[11:40] <haoole> hi ppl. Im having some trouble with mine network adapters here ... maybe you could help me. Yesterday i installed another network adapter in my fileserver that is running ubuntu BreezyBadger. It will become a firewall/gateway too because o bought a new moden that doesnt work as router. The problem is that the network adapters dont start automatically anymore ... ive tried to delete everything on /etc/network and configure it again through System menu but
[11:40] <haoole> it doesnt solved the problem. If i activate the adapter through System menu it works well, but if i restar the computer the network dont start automatically ... i dont know what to do anymore ...
[11:40] <IdleOne> DBAlex, you running norton antivirus or a firewall of some kind?
[11:40] <michael117> What command do enter to see what modules are loaded?
[11:40] <DBAlex> Nope
[11:40] <bimberi> michael117: lsmod
[11:40] <gostview> bimberi: what strange, I didn't run any GUI as root, well it seems to me!
[11:40] <DBAlex> it works perfectly well 99% of the time
[11:40] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, how do you list that?
[11:40] <l_r> when will ubuntu dapper be out?
[11:40] <DBAlex> its worked up until today
[11:41] <colokevin> l_r: june
[11:41] <DBAlex> i checked my ISP's service status and its fine
[11:41] <DBAlex> hmm
[11:41] <dj-fu> Drac[Server] , ls -la /home/student/.ICEauthority
[11:41] <b7ar> fast question.... is there install floppy for dapper 5 ?
[11:41] <dj-fu> floppy?
[11:41] <dj-fu> we still use those?
[11:41] <dj-fu> I don't even have a floppy drive
[11:41] <DBAlex> says this: The error was: lost network connection (NSURLErrorDomain:-1005)
[11:41] <DBAlex> im using a mac
[11:41] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, thanks. :)
[11:41] <DBAlex> i do use ubuntu tho
[11:41] <DBAlex> lol
[11:41] <idefix__> so, is GAIM open source then too?
[11:41] <b7ar> the cd is not working well.. yes floppy
[11:42] <dj-fu> yes, Gaim is Open Source
[11:42] <dj-fu> And it's great :)
[11:42] <DBAlex> im using a wifi connection, any chance someone could be stealing my internet connection?
[11:42] <IdleOne> DBAlex,  could be your isp blocking them sites but I doubt it
[11:42] <b7ar> dj-fu im not asking do ur machine is super duper or not... read my question
[11:42] <DBAlex> crazy idea i know
[11:42] <idefix__> how many MB's is the open source of GAIM?
[11:42] <Phlosten> DBAlex, yes
[11:42] <idefix__> where is it in the file system?
[11:42] <DBAlex> its 64 bit encrypted anyway
[11:43] <gostview> bimberi: someone has said that if some KDE application run, they could change ICEautority ... but I've no KDE app that run on my ubuntu... so the question remaing unsolved
[11:43] <DBAlex> IdleOne, its sites like apple.com and yahoo.com
[11:43] <DBAlex> lol
[11:43] <DBAlex> i doubt it :P
[11:43] <dj-fu> idefix__, maybe check out the gaim website, or apt-get source gaim
[11:43] <abre> Phlosten, no that didnt work, any ideas?
[11:43] <lunari_> is there a command to check to see what speed my wifi is getting to the access point?
[11:43] <gamma> is there a gtk app out there that will rename my mp3s based on id3 tag? does easytag do that?
[11:43] <lunari_> to see what it's connected to the router at?
[11:43] <DBAlex> thanks though
[11:43] <Phlosten> abre, *thinks*
[11:43] <dj-fu> gamma, I believe easytag will do it.
[11:44] <DBAlex> lunaru
[11:44] <abre> Phlosten, is there some gnome configuration somewhere?
[11:44] <DBAlex> *lunari
[11:44] <keithhhhhhhhh> does anyone have a suggestion on how to back up linux?
[11:44] <IdleOne> DBAlex, yeah i doubt that also
[11:44] <DBAlex> wouldnt ping work?
[11:44] <Phlosten> abre, which directory have you mounted it in?
[11:44] <DBAlex> to your routers adress
[11:44] <lunari> DBAlex would that tell me what speed I am at? I am right next to the router yet file transfers are extremely slow
[11:44] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, while the permissions are different from yours, the group is also the user, and it still won't work. Could it be that the file is in use? I certainly hope that wouldn't be...
[11:44] <gostview> keithhhhhhhhh: how about an image with gosth?
[11:44] <abre> Phlosten, /mnt/ however when i was mounting my non-usable ntfs partitions they would show up on the desktop when mounted there
[11:45] <jarryd> anyone know how to add alsaconf to ubuntu?
[11:45] <keithhhhhhhhh> never tried  ;)
[11:45] <DBAlex> well it would tell you what the response time is
[11:45] <keithhhhhhhhh> Ill look into it
[11:45] <DBAlex> you know how to ping right?
[11:45] <Phlosten> abre, you could try mounting in /media/
[11:45] <colokevin> lunari_: is the problem speed to your router, or internet latency?
[11:45] <dj-fu> Drac[Server] , I don't know. Try and delete everything from the file
[11:45] <keithhhhhhhhh> just after I get everything working right I want to be able to roll back if I mess something up  ;)
[11:45] <k31th> If i run kubuntu and i want to install gnome wats the command?
[11:45] <abre> Phlosten, ill try
[11:45] <k31th> apt-get install gnome ?
[11:46] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, do you think it's a bad thing that nautilus cannot determine the file's permissions?
[11:46] <Phlosten> k31th, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <b7ar> keithhhhhhhhh......... http://hddsaver.com/content/26/
[11:46] <dj-fu> http://www.linuxsa.org.au/mailing-list/2002-09/1318.html
[11:46] <DBAlex> WOOOT!
[11:46] <IdleOne> k31th, sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop iirc
[11:46] <bimberi> keithhhhhhhhh: have a look at 'sbackup' too ...
[11:46] <Matthewv> k31th, if you want to install the full ubuntu package do a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <bimberi> !info sbackup
[11:46] <DBAlex> Found my problem
[11:46] <DBAlex> http://memberservices.tesco.net/TescoServiceStatus/ServiceStatus.aspx
[11:46] <DBAlex> http://memberservices.tesco.net/TescoServiceStatus/ServiceStatus.aspx
[11:46] <ubotu> sbackup: (Simple Backup Suite for desktop use), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.8-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 332 kB
[11:46] <DBAlex> lol
[11:46] <IdleOne> k31th, Phlosten is right :)
[11:46] <k31th> thanks
[11:47] <DBAlex> DNS issue
[11:47] <keithhhhhhhhh> recently I installed Automatix, a few days later a update appeared on my start bar, so I started the update and I lost all my text files I saved on my desktop
[11:47] <dj-fu> possibly, Drac[Server] . I've got no idea, did your X crash, as taht website says?
[11:47] <DBAlex> ISP problem as i thought
[11:47] <keithhhhhhhhh> anyone have the same problem?
[11:47] <dj-fu> if X crashes it may use the same socket and not be able to lock
[11:47] <Matthewv> !automatix
[11:47] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:47] <abre> Phlosten, ok that worked weird; but thanks anyway
[11:47] <gostview> bimberi: ok, tnx for your suggest
[11:47] <demonseed> how do i fix this prob in fstab that causes multiple floppy disks to show in computer section of which none will mount
[11:47] <lunari> Is there a command that will tell me at what speed I am wirelessly connected to the network?
[11:47] <Phlosten> abre, must be the way things are handled in the /mnt/ directory
[11:48] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, the file doesn't contain text. It contains some kind of non-ascii code... err... X crash? No. It just fails to start GNOME and gives this server error.
[11:48] <IdleOne> !tell keithhhhhhhhh about easyubuntu
[11:48] <Phlosten> Phlosten, afaik everything mounted in ubuntu should be in the /media/ dir
[11:48] <b7ar> keithhhhhhhhh: sometimes its hiden with X.. try ls in shell.. may see them who knows
[11:48] <abre> Phlosten, talking to yourself there :)
[11:48] <dj-fu> Drac[Server] , it does contain some code. Try deleting it, and then `touch .ICEauthority`, then change the permissions
[11:48] <Phlosten> abre, oh yes
[11:48] <Phlosten> abre, always
[11:48] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, okay. What permissions? 644?
[11:49] <abre> Phlosten, cheers you've been most helpful
[11:49] <Phlosten> abre, too early
[11:49] <colokevin> lunari: iwconfig will tell you the speed at which you're connected to your wireless router, but that means a maximum speed, it doesn't guarantee you'll get that speed to the internet or evento the router
[11:49] <A_Friend_of_Your> Can anyone solve my problem
[11:49] <A_Friend_of_Your> ??
[11:49] <dj-fu> a-rwx,g-rwx,u+rw
[11:49] <dj-fu> readrwite for user, nothing for anyone else
[11:49] <dj-fu> and make it user:user
[11:49] <cafuego> Phlosten: Not really, /media is specifically for hot pluggable stuff, cd's, media playes, cameras, usb keys. I'd still put my static NFS stuff and other OS partitions in /mnt :-)
[11:49] <dj-fu> A_Friend_of_Your, It's usually a good idea to say what your problem is, first.
[11:49] <lunari> colokevin That's the command I was looking for :)
[11:50] <demonseed> anyone, how can i fix this multiple floppy disk problem
[11:50] <BlueEagle> a_friend_of_your: Not unless you tell us what your problem is.
[11:50] <A_Friend_of_Your> I can not install my modem in Ubuntu
[11:50] <cafuego> demonseed: Don't use floppies?
[11:50] <dj-fu> demonseed, manually edit the /etc/fstab, and remove the folders from /media
[11:50] <BlueEagle> a_friend_of_your: Which modem are you using?
[11:50] <dj-fu> just comment out all the floppy lines (with a #)
[11:50] <Poomartialarts> I am running Ubuntu on a Asus Z9000 Laptop... and have a problem with Battery Monitors..
[11:50] <A_Friend_of_Your> I m new to linux
[11:50] <demonseed> k
[11:50] <A_Friend_of_Your> I just installed Ubuntu
[11:50] <A_Friend_of_Your> Riptide
[11:50] <demonseed> then reboot or not needed to reboot
[11:51] <Puffball> hi, could anyone breifly tell me how to switch to the original kernel image that comes with Breezy for the k7 architecure after updating it to the latest via Synaptic?
[11:51] <BlueEagle> a_friend_of_your: I cannot help you install a driver for a modem unless you tell me the make and model of the modem whose driver needs installing.
[11:51] <Phlosten> cafuego, i would assume things mounted in /media/ show up on the desktop and things in /mnt not?
[11:51] <A_Friend_of_Your> Riptide PCI Conexant
[11:51] <Aaron_Mason> !fdformat
[11:51] <ubotu> Aaron_Mason: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:51] <cafuego> Phlosten:  correcy
[11:51] <Aaron_Mason> How can I format a disk to give 1.7mb under ubuntu?
[11:52] <A_Friend_of_Your> By the manufacturer its "Riptide Combo Card V9"
[11:52] <Phlosten> A_Friend_of_Your, for what its worth I couldnt get mine working either
[11:52] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, no luck. :(
[11:52] <BlueEagle> a_friend_of_your: http://www.google.com/search?q=Riptide+PCI+Conexant+linux
[11:52] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, what if I was to deluser and adduser?
[11:53] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, I should probably note that users on two different machines are sharing the same files. Eventually the permissions will be read only for the non-vital stuff, so that settings can't be changed...
[11:53] <A_Friend_of_Your> So what do I do?? Should I change my modem
[11:53] <A_Friend_of_Your> ??
[11:54] <BlueEagle> a_friend_of_your: Did you have a look-see on the link I posted?
[11:54] <colokevin> upon a clean reboot, i do an ifdown of eth0 (my ethernet card), then an ifup of wlan0 (my wireless), and wireless connectivity works fine.  but, if I do an "ifdown wlan0" (say I want to go back to wired), then later do an "ifup wlan0", without reboot, the wireless never gets a dhcp lease.  it works fine w/ a clean reboot though.  any ideas?
[11:54] <A_Friend_of_Your> yes
[11:54] <BlueEagle> a_friend_of_your: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/index.html will bring you even closer
[11:54] <A_Friend_of_Your> I have been searching the whole day
[11:54] <Poomartialarts> Hmm... I need to install "libcpufreq" for powersave-0.12.2 to work.... But "apt-get install libcpufreq" doesnt find the package... Anyone have any suggestions?
[11:54] <A_Friend_of_Your> I have downlaoded the driver from Linuxant
[11:55] <BlueEagle> a_friend_of_your: ...and?
[11:55] <jon_> Is anyone in here using an X800 XT?
[11:55] <A_Friend_of_Your> but it says it only works on kernel 2.4
[11:55] <Aaron_Mason> does anybody know how to low level format a floppy disk for 1.7mb?
[11:55] <Drac[Server] > Poomartialarts, have you considered using Synaptic?
[11:55] <dj-fu> Drac[Server] , are you trying to setup a network login type system?
[11:55] <dj-fu> x700
[11:55] <dj-fu> A_Friend_of_Your, Buy a new modem
[11:55] <dj-fu> Poomartialarts, `apt-cache search libcpufreq`
[11:55] <dj-fu> libcpufreq0 - shared library to deal with the cpufreq Linux kernel feature
[11:56] <A_Friend_of_Your> how can i find out my kernel version??
[11:56] <holotone> How do I a certain program (nm-applet) to run @ startup in KDE?
[11:56] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, No... I just want the files to be located on the server computer, so that all the machines using that home directory on the server will have the same, unalterable files.
[11:56] <ompaul> uname -a or uname -r
[11:56] <sfar-ubu> A_Friend_of_Your: uname -a
[11:56] <dj-fu> A_Friend_of_Your, `uname -r`
[11:56] <sfar-ubu> oh, im to slow :)
[11:56] <shreddy> What can be wrong when my WLAN adapter (Belkin FSD6020) isn't identifided by cardctl ident?
[11:56] <ompaul> holotone, head over to #kubuntu for that
[11:56] <holotone> thanks
[11:56] <besfred> hi there. is there anything similar to synaptic/adept that doesnt depend on gnome/kde libs?
[11:56] <barktpolar> You're right, firefox is faster
[11:57] <Poomartialarts> Hmm... Hmm... "apt-cache search libcpufreq" doesnt find anything.... And Synaptic .. Nope
[11:57] <patrick522> i have just installed istanbul desktop recorder thingy but how do i run it
[11:57] <rysiek|pl> besfred: aptitude :)
[11:57] <jariep1_> how do i mount a dos floppy in ubuntu?
[11:57] <dj-fu> Drac[Server] , No idea, Sorry - I haven't had any experience setting up what you're trying to do
[11:57] <A_Friend_of_Your> thanks all for help
[11:57] <jariep1_> kubuntu
[11:57] <dj-fu> jareth_, mount /dev/floppy /media/floppy
[11:57] <schtinky> I'm trying to install the 855resolution package. I've uncommented the "universe" line in the sources.list file, updated, and then tried apt-get install 855resultion but it doesn't work
[11:58] <Drac[Server] > Poomartialarts, do you have additional repositories enabled?
[11:58] <schtinky> any help would be appreciated
[11:58] <dj-fu> schtinky, did you 'apt-get update' first?
[11:58] <besfred> yea, rysiek|pl. i had a xfce4 gui in mind
[11:58] <patrick522> i have just installed istanbul desktop recorder thingy but how do i run it
[11:58] <patrick522> i have just installed istanbul desktop recorder thingy but how do i run it
[11:58] <patrick522> i have just installed istanbul desktop recorder thingy but how do i run it
[11:58] <schtinky> yes
[11:58] <dj-fu> schtinky, never mind, didn't see that
[11:58] <besfred> patrick522: i guess its a menu applet?
[11:58] <rysiek|pl> besfed: no idea, sorry
[11:58] <Poomartialarts> Drac[Server] , I'm not sure
[11:58] <rysiek|pl> besfred: no idea, sorry
[11:59] <dj-fu> schtinky, I don't even have an 855resolution package in my universe/multiverse
[11:59] <dj-fu> only 915resolution
[11:59] <Drac[Server] > Poomartialarts, have you ever added the word "multiverse" to anything?
[11:59] <besfred> hm. np, rysiek|pl
[11:59] <Poomartialarts> Drac[Server] , Negative
[11:59] <dj-fu> Drac[Server] , so when the user logs in, their home directory folders are retrieved from the smb share?
[11:59] <Drac[Server] > dj-fu, correct.