| hub | has lazarus been packaged for ubuntu? | 12:06 |
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| LaserJock | packages.ubuntu.com didn't give me anything | 12:07 |
| hub | ah wait | 12:08 |
| hub | we need freepascal first | 12:08 |
| hub | LaserJock: I did and ap-tget search before asking :-) | 12:08 |
| hub | apt-cache search actually | 12:08 |
| allee | stupid question: which tool uses debian/watch? | 12:09 |
| allee | ah, uscan | 12:10 |
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| lifeless | ajmitch: I have pornview working. its two things. | 12:24 |
| lifeless | ajmitch: a trivial patch to src/browser.c | 12:25 |
| lifeless | ajmitch: and xines opengl plugin is fuxxxored | 12:25 |
| lifeless | but I'm so close to sleep. I'll update the bug report tomorrow | 12:25 |
| lifeless | hmm, maybe xine can be ignored. seems good | 12:26 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 01:46 |
| Erlang | j0 | 01:47 |
| crimsun | 'lo bddebian, Erlang | 01:47 |
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| bddebian | Heya crimsun, Erlang | 01:56 |
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| Erlang | my Launchpad karma suddenly went throught the roof. I don't get it. | 02:01 |
| crimsun | click the Karma url on the right side | 02:01 |
| bddebian | Stop randomly closing all those bugs ;-) | 02:02 |
| crimsun | it enumerates all the contributions to your boost | 02:02 |
| Erlang | it was 94 just a few days ago and now it's 3351. | 02:02 |
| crimsun | yep, bug triaging is useful. | 02:02 |
| bddebian | whoa | 02:02 |
| crimsun | mine went from a couple thousand to over 105k | 02:03 |
| === bddebian needs to get his lazy ass back to work :-( | ||
| Erlang | crimsun: oh man 105685... | 02:05 |
| bddebian | Holy cow | 02:08 |
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| Erlang | DSA? | 02:21 |
| crimsun | http://www.us.debian.org/security/ | 02:22 |
| Erlang | oh that. | 02:22 |
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| Lathiat | Anyone know a guide to customize a breezy install witha custom kernel? | 03:37 |
| Lathiat | (need a newer kernel for new sata driver) | 03:37 |
| Lathiat | i tried following the debian one for a debian cd and after a few hours gave up | 03:37 |
| Lathiat | finally got it to produce an iso but wouldnt boot, heh (taht was on sarge) | 03:37 |
| Se7h | rebuild the kernel | 03:41 |
| Se7h | but this isnt actaly the channel to ask it | 03:41 |
| hub | Lathiat: would it work with dapper? | 03:41 |
| Lathiat | oh i know how to rebuild the kernel, i need to know how to cram that into d-i :) | 03:42 |
| Lathiat | hub: yes, but i need to run breezy | 03:42 |
| Lathiat | its a server going into production :) | 03:43 |
| Lathiat | might just debootstrap it from a dapper live cd | 03:45 |
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| robertj | q. are there any thoughts on reverting a game to the latest stable revision since the packaged development version is already out of date? | 03:51 |
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| robertj | Wesnoth's master server won't let you log in unless you have 1.1.2 and 1.1.1 is in dapper, and it will not stabalize before dapper | 03:53 |
| Lathiat | robertj: so, | 03:56 |
| Lathiat | robertj: is 1.1.2 in debian? | 03:56 |
| robertj | Lathiat: I dunno, but why not ship 1.0.2 which is stable & still plays better? | 03:57 |
| robertj | Lathiat: either way the dev server is not backwards compatible with the stable or other dev releases | 03:58 |
| robertj | so if dapper ships with a dev release online multiplayer will not work a month after release | 03:58 |
| robertj | plus single player scenarios are still being rebalanced | 03:58 |
| Lathiat | i see | 03:59 |
| Lathiat | thats a bit of a curly situation | 03:59 |
| robertj | but 1.1.1-3 is debian testing now | 03:59 |
| robertj | 1.0.2-1ubuntu1 seems like the best choice to me | 04:00 |
| Lathiat | can u post to the ML and solicit some feedback from others? | 04:00 |
| Lathiat | what you say does seem sane, tho | 04:00 |
| robertj | -devel or -motu? | 04:00 |
| Lathiat | uh, good question | 04:01 |
| Lathiat | -motu i guess | 04:01 |
| bddebian | I don't believe you can revert in the archive | 04:01 |
| Lathiat | bddebian: you can hack it up | 04:01 |
| Lathiat | its something thats generally avoided | 04:02 |
| bddebian | Aye | 04:02 |
| Lathiat | 1.1.1+revertedto+1.0.2 | 04:02 |
| Lathiat | :) | 04:02 |
| Lathiat | i mean it has the potential to screw up peoples savegames and whatnot too | 04:02 |
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| robertj | Lathiat: well that's what they get for running dapper eh? | 04:02 |
| Lathiat | ;p | 04:02 |
| Lathiat | what was in breezy? | 04:02 |
| robertj | 1.0-1 | 04:02 |
| minghua | Lathiat, robertj: I've raised this issue before: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000506.html | 04:03 |
| bddebian | Yeah, I almost caused a major uproar by throwing wesnoth in breezy | 04:03 |
| bddebian | It had a depend in main.. | 04:03 |
| Lathiat | eh? | 04:04 |
| Lathiat | that had to be upgradeD? | 04:04 |
| robertj | minghua: what do you think about reverting to 1.0.2? | 04:06 |
| Lathiat | i noticed gtk-gnutella doesnt work either | 04:06 |
| minghua | robertj: I agree with you that we should ship 1.0.x in dapper | 04:06 |
| Lathiat | you can pound it into working, but yeh | 04:06 |
| Lathiat | minghua: i agree too | 04:07 |
| theCore | does emacs-gtk launch in Dapper now ? | 04:07 |
| minghua | I am not sure how it should be handled though, 1.1.1+revertedto+1.0.2 is really ugly but probably is also the best we can do | 04:07 |
| theCore | (I'm doing some bug triage) | 04:08 |
| theCore | the bug number is 31795 | 04:09 |
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| theCore | nevermind, it works now | 04:14 |
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| robertj | my post is awaiting moderator approval | 04:14 |
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| Hobbsee | hi everyone | 08:01 |
| === Hobbsee jumps on StevenK | ||
| === Hobbsee shoves him into the water at the uni :P | ||
| minghua | hi Hobbsee | 08:04 |
| Hobbsee | hi minghua | 08:04 |
| Mithrandir | hi Hobbsee, minghua | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | hey Mithrandir | 08:11 |
| Mithrandir | how's .au today? | 08:11 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: well, i'm pretty happy, as kubuntu is finally recognising my connection over the command line (but not in knetworkmanager) - but to have some connection at all is pretty good :D | 08:12 |
| Mithrandir | that's nice, yes. | 08:12 |
| Mithrandir | you need wpa or something for it? | 08:13 |
| minghua | hi Mithrandir | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: no, i had wpa at home - these networks are completely open. if you want to browse outside teh uni, you need a username and password | 08:13 |
| Mithrandir | ah, ok. | 08:13 |
| === Mithrandir ponders breakfast. | ||
| Hobbsee | it wouldnt connect on either linux or windows before, i've got no idea why it's suddenly working now - by all accounts, it's supposed to work out of the box | 08:14 |
| === Hobbsee ponders dinner | ||
| Hobbsee | food's overrated | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | . | 08:14 |
| === Hobbsee remembers again about how she'll...shoot!!! | ||
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| lifeless | ajmitch: ping | 08:40 |
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| lifeless | I've added a path to bug 35954 | 08:49 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35954 in pornview "pornview stops responding on quit." [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35954 | 08:49 |
| Mez | w00t for pornview | 08:50 |
| lifeless | could a motu please toss that at the buildds if its considered ok | 08:50 |
| lifeless | oh meh, wrong bug. bug the patch probably fixes that too | 08:50 |
| Mez | lifeless, I'll have a look | 08:50 |
| lifeless | bug 2397 also has the patch and is the bug I meant to put it on | 08:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 2397 in pornview "Pornview segfaults at startup" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/2397 | 08:51 |
| Mez | lifeless - people are going to bitch bout not having Xine syrely? | 08:52 |
| lifeless | less than having X go awol. | 08:52 |
| Mez | lemme have a look at popcon | 08:52 |
| lifeless | seiously - xine is quite fucked, at least the way pornview uses it. It'll startup a couple of times and then *boom*, hard lockup, or X crashing madly | 08:52 |
| lifeless | try it yourself - dont apply that part of the patch. | 08:53 |
| lifeless | tit may be just me | 08:53 |
| Mez | lemme just update my pbuilder ;) | 08:54 |
| lifeless | hmm, someone recommends --without-xine | 08:54 |
| Mez | lifeless - are you not a MOTU then ? | 08:55 |
| lifeless | no, on my TODO list | 08:55 |
| Mez | lifeless- --without-xine might be a better idea | 08:55 |
| lifeless | nah | 08:56 |
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| lifeless | I've just checked and it does not pickup xine unless its told to | 08:56 |
| lifeless | ldd /usr/bin/pornview | grep ine | 08:56 |
| lifeless | libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0xb794c000) | 08:56 |
| lifeless | but it won't hurt to be more explicit - just not something to worry about | 08:57 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | hi dholbach | 09:15 |
| dholbach | hi Hobbsee | 09:16 |
| fabo | dholbach: hi, i replied about wesnoth | 09:16 |
| verwilst | goodmorning! | 09:16 |
| fabo | dholbach: contact isaac | 09:16 |
| verwilst | dholbach, could you maybe upload the pure-ftpd thingy? :$ | 09:17 |
| dholbach | verwilst: i'll have a look | 09:17 |
| dholbach | fabo: you think you could point him to the thread? | 09:18 |
| fabo | done -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-March/000592.html | 09:18 |
| verwilst | dholbach, thanks :) sorry to bother you about it :) | 09:19 |
| verwilst | but going live with it monday hehe | 09:19 |
| verwilst | maybe i'll get a little deeper into motu stuffs | 09:19 |
| dholbach | right | 09:21 |
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| lifeless | I've put myself up for membership on the april 3rd meeting | 09:59 |
| lifeless | I hope some of you lot can turn up and say how hlepful I am :) | 09:59 |
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| siretart | yay :) | 10:16 |
| Mez | lifeless, if I can I will | 10:19 |
| lifeless | thanks! | 10:19 |
| Mez | I should hopefully be able to make it seeing as I'm trying to get the 4th off | 10:19 |
| Mez | lifeless, not that my opinion matters - you've gotta sweet talk colin matt and Mark ;0 | 10:20 |
| Mez | buy them beer :D | 10:20 |
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| ajmitch | dholbach: do you know if we have any procedure for getting new packages into universe after FF? | 11:02 |
| ajmitch | eg an exception process, if it's needed | 11:03 |
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| dholbach | ajmitch: need to talk to matt about it | 11:04 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: will do that once he's awake again | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | ok | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | mdz's post on sounder last week makes me think that he thinks there's no new package freeze for universe | 11:05 |
| dholbach | according to the dapper release process there is | 11:05 |
| ajmitch | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-March/005098.html | 11:05 |
| ajmitch | I know | 11:05 |
| dholbach | i read it | 11:05 |
| === ajmitch was at the table in montreal :) | ||
| ajmitch | and we've always worked on that belief that it was frozen at FF for NEW packages | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | if you could clarify it, it'd be great :) | 11:06 |
| dholbach | yeah, I'd prefer if he sticked to the the strict freeze and made urgent exceptions only, so people would focus on getting old stuff fixed instead of getting new stuff in :) | 11:07 |
| viviersf | ajmitch, how do i mirror just dapper ? | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | some exceptions are warranted | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | viviersf: probably by using debmirror or similar scripts | 11:07 |
| dholbach | as I said "urgent" :) | 11:07 |
| viviersf | thx | 11:08 |
| === StevenK giggles at his awaylog | ||
| ajmitch | heh | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | hi StevenK | 11:08 |
| === StevenK waves. | ||
| Toadstool | hi everybody | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: I'd probably be very lucky to get zope 2.9 in though ;) | 11:10 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: if you coordinate with doko, ... :) | 11:11 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: sure, the package just got uploaded to debian :) | 11:11 |
| ajmitch | it finally uses python2.4 | 11:11 |
| ajmitch | so I'd need a bunch of UVF exceptions as well for zope-{common,debhelper} | 11:12 |
| ajmitch | but we'll see what happens.. | 11:12 |
| doko | ajmitch: all the exceptions (except zope2.9) should be in place | 11:15 |
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| ajmitch | doko: exception for the latest zope-common is done? | 11:17 |
| ajmitch | that's great | 11:17 |
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| viviersf | ajmitch, hmmm where does debmirror get info on which repos to mirror | 11:20 |
| ajmitch | you read the manpage & docs? | 11:22 |
| ajmitch | it has examples there | 11:22 |
| viviersf | yar | 11:22 |
| doko | ajmitch: for the last or not, I'm revisiting this with elmo | 11:23 |
| ajmitch | -d for distro, -s for section | 11:23 |
| ajmitch | ok | 11:24 |
| viviersf | k i found the problem | 11:25 |
| viviersf | thx ajmitch | 11:28 |
| lifeless | ajmitch: so I've put myself up for membership - can you come on the 3rd to the cc meeting ? | 11:30 |
| ajmitch | lifeless: depends when it is | 11:30 |
| lifeless | 0900 UTC | 11:30 |
| ajmitch | should be possible, I think | 11:31 |
| lifeless | cool | 11:31 |
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| lucas | /query buxy | 12:46 |
| lucas | oops | 12:46 |
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| j^ | does anyone know of tapioca <http://tapioca-voip.sourceforge.net> packages for dapper? | 01:39 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:00 |
| ogra | hey bddebian | 03:03 |
| bddebian | Hi ogra! | 03:03 |
| Kyral | Morning | 03:06 |
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| bddebian | Good morning Kyral | 03:12 |
| Kyral | mornin | 03:12 |
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| jtshaw | Does anywhere here use the ACE libraries? | 05:30 |
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| Tonio_ | hello | 07:12 |
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| LaserJock | hi monzie | 07:40 |
| monzie | hi LaserJock | 07:41 |
| monzie | so the motu's must be dead busy fixing bugs | 07:42 |
| monzie | and heard that the release date got back by six weeks | 07:42 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:42 |
| === monzie wishes that this Ubuntu release kicks MS's ass real hard | ||
| dholbach | BUG DAY next FRIDAY | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | well, I thought dapper did that back in about December | 07:43 |
| dholbach | you can all help out to make it kick ass | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | hi dholbach | 07:43 |
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| === monzie will do all he can , with his limited ability | ||
| LaserJock | dholbach: sweet, these bug days are helping the Science team quite a bit | 07:44 |
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| dholbach | LaserJock: that's nice to hear | 07:44 |
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| JohnnyMast | greetz dholbach | 07:45 |
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| dholbach | hey JohnnyMast | 07:46 |
| dholbach | monzie: great :) | 07:46 |
| JohnnyMast | long time no see :) | 07:46 |
| JohnnyMast | well i saw you but didnt speak | 07:46 |
| monzie | thanks dholbach, in what way may i be of use to ubuntu community? | 07:46 |
| crimsun | dholbach has been making gnome desktop ROCK in dapper | 07:47 |
| JohnnyMast | monzie packing is a nice start | 07:47 |
| dholbach | monzie: bug triage is a GREAT start | 07:47 |
| monzie | you mean packaging JohnnyMast? | 07:47 |
| dholbach | we get a lot of bug reports and most of them are misdirected or need more information | 07:47 |
| monzie | how do i triage bugs dholbach, if you give me pointers, i will surely helo | 07:48 |
| monzie | help | 07:48 |
| ogra | crimsun, right, we would have no desktop and a dead seb128 in dapper without dholbach :) | 07:48 |
| dholbach | it's easy to ask people, which version they are using, what they were trying to do or random questions from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures | 07:48 |
| JohnnyMast | monzie i do | 07:48 |
| dholbach | or check if the bug was already filed | 07:48 |
| dholbach | and while doing this you find out where you're good at or learn new stuff | 07:48 |
| dholbach | I think it'S one of the easiest ways to get involved | 07:48 |
| === monzie sucks at packaging, cause if here were good enough, E17 would have made it dapper on time | ||
| dholbach | crimsun, ogra: Merci beaucoup, you're flattering me. | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | ogra: lol, true | 07:49 |
| ogra | dholbach, hey, fully deserved :) | 07:49 |
| monzie | sure dholbach, what you say seems suitable for a dumbo like me, how do i go about it? | 07:49 |
| JohnnyMast | monzie its not that hard there are just some rules to follow e.x the debian/copyright file | 07:49 |
| dholbach | monzie: ... nahhhh, not dumbo :) | 07:49 |
| dholbach | you can start by joining #ubuntu-bugs and then start poking at apps you use every day | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | monzie: look around wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay especially the links at the bottom | 07:50 |
| JohnnyMast | monzie my pkg made it there so even i could do it | 07:50 |
| dholbach | and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | 07:50 |
| monzie | ya i know a bit about that JohnnyMast, but E17 from cvs proved a nightmare | 07:50 |
| JohnnyMast | e17 would be nice | 07:51 |
| JohnnyMast | but dont do it | 07:51 |
| JohnnyMast | its nu stable yet is it ? | 07:51 |
| JohnnyMast | nu == not | 07:51 |
| monzie | yup it's not stable | 07:51 |
| JohnnyMast | then you better wait a sec | 07:51 |
| JohnnyMast | because else you have to update it a lot | 07:51 |
| JohnnyMast | maybe they do a pre every month so then you have to pack it again every month | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | monzie: unfortunately I think there is a reason E17 isn't in Universe already | 07:52 |
| JohnnyMast | LaserJock prob the unstable ness :p | 07:52 |
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| monzie | i guess so LaserJock, but i liked it and there's no harm in trying it.... i learnt so much about Ubuntu in the process | 07:53 |
| JohnnyMast | i lub enlightenment !! | 07:53 |
| JohnnyMast | :D | 07:53 |
| monzie | whether it gets accepted is not important, at 22 learning is | 07:53 |
| monzie | do you have to be a community council member to "be heard" in the Ubuntu world? | 07:54 |
| JohnnyMast | no not at all | 07:54 |
| JohnnyMast | if you tall ur stuff on ubuntu-dev ppl will know you | 07:55 |
| JohnnyMast | and think about your ideas | 07:55 |
| JohnnyMast | you can even get discussions going meaning a revolution in ubuntu | 07:55 |
| JohnnyMast | meaning if much ppl like here motu`s sopport it | 07:55 |
| JohnnyMast | ubuntu is a communty not comunism | 07:56 |
| monzie | ok JohnnyMast | 07:57 |
| monzie | i guess i will go to #ubuntu-bugs and try to do some work | 07:57 |
| JohnnyMast | :) nice going ! | 07:57 |
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| siretart | slomo: thanks for the approval :) | 10:30 |
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