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kmon | good night | 12:23 |
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Lure | kmon: good night | 12:29 |
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jtshaw | good evening guys | 02:17 |
jtshaw | (and gals) | 02:18 |
raphink | hi jtshaw :) | 02:25 |
jtshaw | heres a stupid question... is there a source repository kicking around for things like the installer? | 02:26 |
raphink | well every binary package in dapper has its source in dapper too | 02:27 |
raphink | ... | 02:27 |
raphink | so if you get the deb-src for dapper you get the source of the latest version in dapper | 02:27 |
jtshaw | makes sense | 02:29 |
raphink | heh | 02:29 |
Riddell | hi jtshaw | 02:36 |
Riddell | jtshaw: which installer? | 02:36 |
raphink | good question :) | 02:37 |
jtshaw | well, what I'm trying to find is the code in the kubuntu installer that validates the usernames | 02:40 |
jtshaw | because I believe it is slightly incorrect:) | 02:40 |
jtshaw | but probably pretty easy to fix | 02:40 |
raphink | you mean in debian-installer? | 02:41 |
Riddell | apt-get source debian-installer | 02:42 |
Riddell | although it's quite a complex beast | 02:42 |
jtshaw | ya.. I'm sure this one piece can't be difficult to fix.. but it might take me the better part of my life to find it:) | 02:46 |
jtshaw | I really need to find my POSIX book to make sure I'm not wrong before I do it though anyway | 02:48 |
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reconciliation | where to look for the khtml source? | 04:07 |
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seaLne | how do you remove things from the top of a bug in malone? | 07:18 |
seaLne | #33173 for instance is listed as ubuntu aswell which it shouldn't be | 07:19 |
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Hobbsee | what's that? | 08:34 |
Hobbsee | somethign to do with klik? | 08:34 |
freeflying | mornfall: hi | 08:35 |
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Pygi | Lure: around? | 09:05 |
Pygi | Tonio_: at least you around? ;) | 09:09 |
Hobbsee | hi Pygi | 09:09 |
Pygi | Hi hi Hobbsee | 09:09 |
Pygi | what's up? | 09:10 |
Hobbsee | looking at how to install descent 2 | 09:10 |
Pygi | ah ^_^ | 09:12 |
Pygi | Lure: wake up | 09:17 |
Pygi | _ion: there? | 09:34 |
Pygi | o joy, none of the people here | 09:35 |
freeflying | Pygi: hi | 09:36 |
Pygi | freeflying: hi hi | 09:36 |
freeflying | Pygi: | 09:37 |
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Pygi | yes freeflying? | 09:37 |
Pygi | Hi, Lure... | 09:37 |
Lure | Pygi: hi - great day, isn't it ;-) | 09:38 |
Lure | I did not notice that VPN is included - this is even better | 09:38 |
Pygi | yes, great day, but I need to correct you on one things from the forum ;) | 09:38 |
Lure | I have updated my post | 09:38 |
Pygi | yes, that...please change to it ;) | 09:38 |
Lure | done | 09:38 |
Pygi | ah, you already did...that is great ;) | 09:38 |
Pygi | now to get knetworkmanager in ;) | 09:39 |
Lure | Riddell: since knetworkmanager was not yet in, what has to be done since we are in FF? | 09:39 |
Lure | Riddell: do we need to go universe -> main route or can we get an exception on this? | 09:40 |
Pygi | Lure: also, please change knetworkmanager to network-manager-kde on forum post | 09:40 |
Lure | Riddell: is it just you that we need to persuade or we need to also make some wider marketing? ;-) | 09:41 |
Lure | Pygi: OK, will clarify, however binary will still be knetworkmanager | 09:41 |
Pygi | yes, I know ^_^ | 09:41 |
Lure | done | 09:42 |
Pygi | great ^_^ | 09:42 |
Pygi | Lure: Network-manager 0.6.1 will land into official Dapper repository soon (today?). | 09:46 |
Pygi | it is already there, it is in the building queue | 09:46 |
Lure | Pygi: we will change that when apt-get upgrade will get it - currently even build queue cannot be seen in launchpad | 09:46 |
Lure | Pygi: should we suggest to the users to do a clean install (purge test packages, configure again)? | 09:47 |
Lure | it probably makes sense, in order to ensure that we have clean case | 09:47 |
Pygi | Lure: I don't think there is a need for that ... | 09:47 |
Lure | lot's of people anyway do it, therefore I am not too concerned anyway... | 09:48 |
Pygi | conf files stayed the same, so no need ;) | 09:48 |
Pygi | purgins is not really good | 09:48 |
Lure | Pygi: only wpasupplicant changed... | 09:48 |
Pygi | Lure: two patches were dropped from our version of n-m | 09:49 |
Lure | VPN and which? | 09:49 |
Pygi | 30-blacklist-devices.patch: | 09:49 |
Pygi | - Dropped; upstream implemented an nm_system_device_get_disabled() | 09:49 |
Pygi | function that we implement instead. | 09:49 |
Lure | Pygi: n-m is waiting in build queue on dependancy (libnl-dev) :-( | 09:51 |
Lure | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds?build_state=depwait | 09:51 |
Lure | ok, but this one we picked from Debian (if I understand correctly) | 09:51 |
Pygi | why is this missing? :-/ | 09:52 |
Pygi | we have one in our repo | 09:52 |
Lure | not sure, maybe libnl1 source package (included couple of days back) does not provide it... :-( | 09:53 |
Pygi | but they could have picked our ppc version at least... | 09:54 |
Pygi | if not amd64 (which we don't have) | 09:54 |
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Pygi | Lure: according to that i386 edition is already in the repos? | 09:57 |
Lure | Pygi: I think it is copies to archives only when all platforms pass build (at least i386, amd64, ppc) | 09:59 |
Pygi | ah,yes, even i386 failed | 09:59 |
Pygi | that is because libnl not yet in main | 09:59 |
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hunger | kaudiocreator is useless... it failed to grab 14 out of 22 CDs. cdparanoia has no trouble grabbing all of them whatsoever! | 10:15 |
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hunger | Plus kaudiocreator does not always start to actually grab the files... sometimes it just sits there with a list of jobs and twiddles its thumbs. | 10:16 |
Lure | Pygi: libnl is approved, but not ready to be promoted (whatever that means) | 10:19 |
Lure | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue | 10:19 |
Pygi | Lure: I know... | 10:20 |
Hobbsee | why oh why does pbuilder not depend on debootstrap? | 10:27 |
Hobbsee | hmmm...it supposedly does. i wonder why it didnt install properly then | 10:28 |
Tm_T | hunger: yeah, I dropped kaudiocreator from my favourites list because of lacking paranoia | 10:35 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: yay! | 10:35 |
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Pygi | Lure; arizbd= | 10:52 |
Pygi | around*? | 10:52 |
_ion | hobbsee: I should listen that some time. :-) | 10:56 |
_ion | Hi .* | 10:56 |
Pygi | _ion: hello _ion | 10:56 |
Pygi | Congrats ^_^ | 10:56 |
_ion | Wow. :-) | 10:59 |
Pygi | wow what? ;) | 11:00 |
_ion | pe104602 < Pygi> Lure: Network-manager 0.6.1 will land into official Dapper repository soon (today?). | 11:01 |
Pygi | _ion: bah, that's what I am congratulating you on ^_^ | 11:02 |
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Pygi | _ion:https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-March/008171.html | 11:03 |
_ion | - Yes kids, this means we ship VPN support now. | 11:04 |
_ion | Yay!! | 11:04 |
_ion | Rules, rules, rules | 11:04 |
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Pygi | congrats _ion ;) | 11:05 |
Pygi | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=856812&posted=1#post856812 | 11:06 |
Tm_T | agh | 11:07 |
_ion | I wasn't the only one who worked on the package, so congrats to everyone who did. :-) | 11:08 |
Tm_T | someone like to hold my hand awhile? | 11:08 |
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Tm_T | yay! | 11:08 |
Tm_T | hmm, maybe I try to do that Kopete package now | 11:08 |
Tm_T | we'll see what I can get together | 11:09 |
Pygi | _ion: bah ^_^ | 11:11 |
Pygi | yay, wpasupplicant in main, shipping | 11:12 |
Pygi | not that it's good, but still :-/ | 11:13 |
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Pygi | Tonio_, Lure: you need to drop the VPN blocking patch from Knetworkmanager | 11:15 |
Lure | Pygi: we know - I am just waiting for NM-dev packages with VPN in order to be able to build | 11:15 |
Lure | Pygi: this just means that we drop one big removal of code patch ;-) | 11:16 |
Pygi | yes ;) | 11:16 |
hunger | Lure: Will you rename the deb then, too? | 11:16 |
hunger | Lure: Or will it stick with its name? | 11:17 |
Lure | yes | 11:17 |
hunger | Lure: Yes, we will rename it or yes, it will keep its name? | 11:17 |
Tm_T | oh well... | 11:17 |
Lure | package renamed, binary will stay ;-) | 11:18 |
Lure | Hobbsee|Movie: good for you... ;-) | 11:19 |
Hobbsee|Movie | :P | 11:20 |
Hobbsee|Movie | on the laptop | 11:20 |
Hobbsee|Movie | why watch on a big tv when my laptop is here? | 11:20 |
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Lure | Hobbsee|Movie: streaming over wireless? ;-) | 11:23 |
Hobbsee|Movie | Lure: no, just a dvd in the dvd drive :P | 11:23 |
Lure | Hobbsee|Movie: boring... ;-) | 11:24 |
Hobbsee|Movie | hehe | 11:24 |
Hobbsee|Movie | just remember about our wireless speeds... | 11:24 |
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Riddell | Pygi: hmm? | 11:38 |
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Tm_T | bear? you mean beer? | 11:40 |
Pygi | s/bear/beer | 11:40 |
Pygi | ;) | 11:40 |
Tm_T | Riddell: enjoy your bears =) | 11:40 |
Pygi | Riddel: we need to squeeze wpasupplicant on ubuntu CD, and put wpasupplicant and network-manager-kde on kubuntu CD | 11:41 |
Pygi | you think you can do it? ;) | 11:41 |
Riddell | Pygi: of course we can | 11:42 |
Pygi | Riddell: thanks ^_^ and what do we have to get out because of that? | 11:42 |
Pygi | btw. network-manager-kde first needs to hit the universe, then main, and then we can include it | 11:43 |
freeflying | Riddell: shall we merge qt-3.3.6 from debian | 11:43 |
Riddell | yes | 11:43 |
Tm_T | Riddell: about Kopete 0.12, should I diff to current dapper package or what? | 11:44 |
Riddell | freeflying: does it keep the immodule patch? | 11:44 |
freeflying | Riddell: y | 11:44 |
freeflying | Riddell: but the build-dep is not suitable to dapper | 11:44 |
Pygi | Riddell: what will we need to drop from the cd in order to squeeze that in? | 11:45 |
freeflying | Riddell: also they add the inputcontex crash patch | 11:46 |
Riddell | Pygi: the CDs have ample space except powerpc live | 11:49 |
Pygi | Riddell: hm, ok, can we drop something from ppc live in order to get this in? it's not so big packages, anyway | 11:50 |
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Riddell | Pygi: I did remove a bunch of language packs yesterday but it hasn't made any difference to the size, I think that CD is just determined to be oversized | 12:14 |
freeflying | Riddell: why qt-3.3.6 build against xlibs-static-dev | 12:16 |
Riddell | freeflying: they always do that with qt | 12:30 |
freeflying | Riddell: merge or not ? | 12:30 |
freeflying | - Font system | 12:31 |
freeflying | Improve startup time on systems with many installed fonts. | 12:31 |
freeflying | Improve Chinese, Japanese and Korean font handling. | 12:31 |
Riddell | freeflying: we need to build some .debs and test them first, see if it causes any problems | 12:34 |
freeflying | Riddell: right | 12:35 |
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raphink | Riddell: if someone began a spec on the wiki, can I overtake it? | 12:50 |
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Riddell | raphink: which spec? | 12:51 |
Riddell | depends on the author and status | 12:51 |
raphink | klik | 12:51 |
raphink | the author is an almost anonymous guy | 12:52 |
raphink | no history in Ubuntu | 12:52 |
Riddell | yeah, you can 0wn that quite legitimately :) | 12:52 |
raphink | how do I own it? | 12:52 |
raphink | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KlikIntegration | 12:52 |
Riddell | edit the spec, bring it up to date and make it complete. then before the ubuntu conference register it on launchpad | 12:53 |
raphink | it's already registered on LP by this guy | 12:53 |
raphink | so I guess once it's more complete on the wiki I can assign the drafting to myself | 12:53 |
raphink | on LP | 12:53 |
Riddell | well target it for edgy when that's possible | 12:54 |
raphink | ok | 12:54 |
raphink | Riddell: where do I put the pros and cons in a spec ? | 12:58 |
raphink | in the scope section? | 12:58 |
Riddell | in a rationale section | 01:00 |
mornfall | eh klik | 01:00 |
raphink | ok | 01:01 |
mornfall | ever thought about security problem in a library that's distributed with klik and how it doesn't get fixed by ubuntu security updates? | 01:01 |
raphink | that's what has to be discussed | 01:01 |
mornfall | your system is updated now -- except the ton of libs in various klik packages | 01:01 |
raphink | and I want to spec klik just because he can probably bring problems | 01:02 |
raphink | better spec it then wait for a guy to provide a package that will bring lots of security issues | 01:02 |
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Riddell | tmwhy? | 01:23 |
Riddell | Tm_T: | 01:24 |
Tm_T | dunno, somehow I feel it's more bad than good | 01:25 |
Riddell | not much of a rationale :) | 01:27 |
Riddell | we can't just remove sounds from KDE | 01:27 |
Riddell | and suse's kdemm stuff isjust as bad | 01:27 |
mornfall | what what? | 01:28 |
mornfall | it's far too late for dapper either way :) | 01:28 |
Riddell | and that too | 01:28 |
mornfall | but i don't think ditching arts gives you anything | 01:28 |
mornfall | i run arts because everything else sucks more | 01:28 |
mornfall | like, amarok locking up with xine | 01:28 |
mornfall | oh, what you need to do | 01:29 |
mornfall | change autodetect to threaded oss as default driver | 01:29 |
mornfall | and make sure to load oss emu | 01:29 |
mornfall | solves most arts problems for me | 01:29 |
mornfall | alsa userspace lib is probably not suitable for daemon usage | 01:29 |
mornfall | it breaks far too often | 01:30 |
mornfall | i'm not sure if everyone knows this so i better tell you :) | 01:30 |
Riddell | how do we make sure to loade oss emu? | 01:32 |
Tm_T | hmm | 01:42 |
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mornfall | raphink: you play wesnoth? :-) | 01:46 |
raphink | sure | 01:46 |
raphink | mornfall: why? | 01:46 |
mornfall | raphink: but i so don't get how it's related to OOo :) | 01:46 |
raphink | it's not | 01:46 |
raphink | some people call it the "Ooo of RPG" | 01:46 |
mornfall | is that an insult? | 01:46 |
raphink | not at all | 01:46 |
mornfall | sounds like one to me :) | 01:46 |
raphink | Ooo is a great open-source app, available on most OSes | 01:47 |
raphink | and so is wesnoth | 01:47 |
mornfall | ooo is great? | 01:47 |
raphink | well it's great for most users :p | 01:47 |
Tm_T | =) | 01:47 |
raphink | I don't like it | 01:47 |
raphink | but well ;) | 01:47 |
Tm_T | Wesnoth is too hard to me | 01:47 |
raphink | Tm_T: practice ;) | 01:47 |
mornfall | the only people i know use it do so because they think MS office is too pricey | 01:47 |
raphink | Tm_T: I can mentor you | 01:47 |
raphink | muahaha | 01:47 |
Tm_T | =) | 01:47 |
raphink | Tm_T: wanna play a game w/ me ? | 01:48 |
raphink | :) | 01:48 |
mornfall | i wouldn't ;-) | 01:48 |
mornfall | playing against experienced player is way too frustrating for newbies :) | 01:48 |
Tm_T | raphink: can't now | 01:48 |
raphink | mornfall: wouln''t what? | 01:48 |
raphink | I'm not experienced :p | 01:48 |
raphink | mornfall: are you? | 01:49 |
Tm_T | raphink: how about ET with me? ;) | 01:50 |
raphink | ET ? | 01:50 |
Tm_T | Enemy Territory | 01:51 |
raphink | this is open-source ??! | 01:51 |
Tm_T | I doubt, but it's free | 01:51 |
raphink | it's not in Ubuntu at least | 01:52 |
Tm_T | free as, you don't have tp pay to play it | 01:52 |
Tm_T | raphink: yeah, it's not inrepositories ;) | 01:52 |
raphink | :p | 01:52 |
Tm_T | http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/wolfensteinet/et-linux-2.60.x86.run.html | 01:54 |
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mornfall | raphink: i guess no | 01:54 |
raphink | hehe | 01:55 |
Tm_T | raphink: though, I bet there's better places to download that | 01:55 |
mornfall | Riddell: uhm, kubuntu defaults to double-clicking? | 01:58 |
mornfall | or anyone else for that matter :) | 02:01 |
Tm_T | ? | 02:03 |
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Riddell | mornfall: no | 02:08 |
Riddell | certainly shouldn't do | 02:08 |
raphink | we talked about that already | 02:10 |
raphink | at a meeting some time ago | 02:10 |
raphink | and most people agreed on keepind default = single click | 02:10 |
raphink | although I'm not sure to get how this goes along with the metabar | 02:11 |
raphink | ;) | 02:11 |
raphink | since you have to single-click on a file to get infos and actions on it in the metabar | 02:11 |
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raphink | hmm no | 02:13 |
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raphink | hehe | 02:13 |
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raphink | good too | 02:14 |
mornfall | Riddell: will you have time for an upload today? | 02:15 |
Riddell | mornfall: sure | 02:15 |
mornfall | okey, i'll go home now and prepare it | 02:15 |
raphink | mornfall: side note : you can ask me for uploads when you need one | 02:15 |
raphink | too ;) | 02:15 |
mornfall | raphink: okey :) | 02:16 |
mornfall | laters | 02:16 |
raphink | hmm | 02:16 |
raphink | I don't have actions in the metabar | 02:16 |
raphink | anyone can confirm that? | 02:16 |
raphink | when i select a file, it lists no actions in the metabar | 02:17 |
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Riddell | raphink: confirmed | 02:20 |
raphink | Riddell: now right click on the metabar and add the "copy" action for example | 02:21 |
raphink | you"ll see that other actions will show | 02:21 |
raphink | for example "convert to" for images | 02:21 |
Riddell | I don't see that | 02:22 |
Riddell | only Configure Metabar and Reload theme | 02:22 |
raphink | yes | 02:23 |
raphink | go to configure | 02:23 |
raphink | then to the "actions" tab | 02:23 |
raphink | and activate an action | 02:23 |
raphink | and it will activate more than this single action | 02:23 |
Riddell | yes, how broken | 02:26 |
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Riddell | fron dapper? | 03:26 |
Riddell | freeflying: on dapper? | 03:27 |
freeflying | Riddell: ya | 03:27 |
Riddell | freeflying: got a URL? | 03:27 |
freeflying | Riddell: URL? | 03:28 |
freeflying | Riddell: seems debain guys includes all patches we have in dapper | 03:29 |
freeflying | Riddell: debain's http://incoming.debian.org/qt-x11-free_3.3.6.orig.tar.gz | 03:30 |
Riddell | freeflying: URL for your .debs, so I can test them | 03:32 |
freeflying | Riddell: hem, buiding it | 03:32 |
Riddell | ah, still building, ok :) | 03:33 |
freeflying | Riddell: will you build it :) | 03:33 |
freeflying | maybe your amchine may build it more quickly | 03:33 |
Riddell | I'm busy with kde 3.5.2, koffice 1.5 rcv1 and amarok 1.3.9 | 03:33 |
freeflying | s/amchine/machine | 03:34 |
freeflying | ok,after finish , give you URL | 03:34 |
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freeflying | Riddell: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/immodule-qt/2006-March/000745.html --< new immodule patch for qt-3.3.5 | 04:06 |
Riddell | freeflying: it's not clear there, is he just merging dirk's changes or is he also adding his own fix? | 04:11 |
freeflying | Riddell: seems just merge | 04:14 |
Riddell | we already have dirk's patches | 04:14 |
ubijtsa_ | hmm.. is there a way, in the installer/preseed, to force/guide the use of a particular dhcp server ? | 04:18 |
freeflying | Riddell: would u like give any advice on build kde4 | 04:18 |
Riddell | I've never built kde 4 | 04:19 |
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freeflying | Riddell: any space for uploading qt-3.3.6? | 05:05 |
Riddell | freeflying: revu | 05:05 |
freeflying | Riddell: there only for source | 05:06 |
Riddell | I think you can upload non-source to revu | 05:06 |
Riddell | dput revu foo.i386.changes | 05:06 |
seaLne | dosen't it get auto rejected? | 05:07 |
Riddell | well, it's worth a shot :) | 05:07 |
freeflying | raphink: ping | 05:07 |
freeflying | Riddell: http://ftp.ubuntu.org.cn/freeflying/ | 05:19 |
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Lure_ | _Sime_: bug 32915 is still there with 0.6.3 | 05:46 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 32915 in kde-guidance "Display applet does not start" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32915 | 05:46 |
Lure_ | actually it is different stack trace, but same result ;-) | 05:47 |
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superstoned | Riddell: shall we merge qt-3.3.6 from debian [11:44] <Riddell> yes | 06:05 |
superstoned | this helps with performance in KDE, esp with latest fontconfig. cool! | 06:06 |
superstoned | current version 2.3.2-1.1ubuntu5, but fontconfig devel is at version 2.3.94 - so 2.4 is still some time off. guess the reall performance improvements have to wait for dapper+1 | 06:10 |
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jeroenvrp | Riddell: please see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdewebdev/+bug/36460 | 06:45 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 36460 in kdewebdev kimagemapeditor "Crash while starting kimagemapeditor" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 06:45 |
kmon | I can't change the performance in klaptop, is this a known limitation, bug or do I have to change some settings somewhere? | 06:54 |
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danimo | hi Riddell | 07:15 |
danimo | hi all | 07:15 |
danimo | Riddell: ping? | 07:15 |
Riddell | danimo: hi | 07:37 |
danimo | Riddell: I want to package klear | 07:37 |
danimo | Riddell: it does have a debian directory, but I'd need some advice on how to go from there | 07:38 |
Riddell | danimo: already done http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=924 | 07:39 |
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Riddell | hi lamont | 07:39 |
lamont | cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/ktalkdrc': No such file or directory | 07:39 |
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lamont | which didn't like a single ports architecture | 07:39 |
lamont | hi Riddell :-) | 07:39 |
Riddell | lamont: it's because it can't find /var/run/utmp, is there a reason that would have changed, or is different on the arches? | 07:40 |
danimo | Riddell: and how do I build from there? | 07:40 |
Riddell | danimo: grab the .orig, .dsc and .diff.gz | 07:40 |
Riddell | dpkg-source -x *dsc | 07:40 |
Riddell | cd klear-<tab> | 07:41 |
Riddell | debuild | 07:41 |
Riddell | may want to apt-get install devscripts to install debuild | 07:41 |
lamont | Riddell: le huh? | 07:41 |
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danimo | Riddell: is there a all-in-one-package? | 07:41 |
Riddell | danimo: not for source packages | 07:42 |
Riddell | after debuild is run it'll make the .deb | 07:42 |
Riddell | anyone on breezy want to test KDE 3.5.2? | 07:43 |
_Sime_ | danimo: is guidance and displayconfig 0.6.3 working for you now on dapper? | 07:43 |
_Sime_ | Lure: hi | 07:43 |
danimo | _Sime_: I didn't dare to try it again :) | 07:43 |
lamont | Riddell: interesting... the chroot on hppa lacks /var/run/utmp. but it's present in the i386 chrot | 07:43 |
danimo | _Sime_: I'm easily scared :) | 07:43 |
_Sime_ | danimo: it always backs up your xorg.conf. ;) | 07:44 |
Riddell | lamont: I've never touched ktalk so it's always worked on debian and ubuntu buildds in the past | 07:44 |
danimo | _Sime_: that I noticed | 07:45 |
danimo | _Sime_: the gamma sliders still don't work | 07:45 |
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lamont | Riddell: apparently, it'll get removed from the i386/ppc/amd64 chroots sometime soonish... pkg will then be b0rked everywhere... | 07:45 |
Lure | _Sime_: I am back - Konversation hung... :-( | 07:46 |
Lure | _Sime_: seen my report with 0.6.3 | 07:46 |
_Sime_ | Lure: yeah, | 07:46 |
_Sime_ | Lure: i'm going to have a look at it now. | 07:46 |
Lure | Riddell: I can install 3.5.2 on breezy (have 3.5.1 currently), but will not get much testing until monday | 07:47 |
Lure | Riddell: weekends are for Dapper, work is on Breezy (until Flight6 ;-)) | 07:47 |
_Sime_ | Lure: can you run ScanPCI.py for me and email (or pastebin) the output for me. | 07:49 |
Riddell | Lure: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352/ breezy main | 07:49 |
Riddell | lamont: what's the reason for that and will it happen to debian too? | 07:50 |
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Lure | _Sime_: fails - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/620397 | 07:52 |
Lure | anybody else having problems with Konversation hangs (on 3.5.2)? | 07:52 |
_Sime_ | Lure: oh yes, of course. | 07:52 |
Lure | _Sime_: I am doing something wrong, I suppose... ;-) | 07:53 |
lamont | Riddell: don't mind me - I may or may not be correct in my statement about that... | 07:54 |
lamont | although I'm completely at a loss to understand why no utmp results in not installing an rc file for ktalkd.... | 07:54 |
Riddell | lamont: ktalkd doesn't compile unless it finds /var/run/utmp | 07:55 |
lamont | Riddell: it goes away because of the change to clean /var/run on boot | 07:55 |
_Sime_ | Lure: fix up this line "bus = PCIBus("ldetect-lst/")" in ScanPCI.py and make it point to where the directory containing the Cards+ file. | 07:55 |
lamont | (or rather, to recreate the tmpfs that was /var/run the last time...) | 07:55 |
Riddell | lamont: is that an ubuntu change or a debian change? | 07:55 |
lamont | Riddell: and why, doesn't it compile? | 07:55 |
lamont | dapper | 07:56 |
lamont | although it wouldn't surprise me to find that change getting into debian as well | 07:56 |
Riddell | right | 07:56 |
lamont | /var/run is (by policy) completely transient | 07:56 |
lamont | across boots | 07:56 |
Riddell | well ktalkd needs utmp to work so the programmers obviously thought it a silly idea to install it without a utmp on the system | 07:57 |
lamont | and the existance of system files on the compiling machine shouldn't be affecting the binaries delivered to some enduser machine... | 07:57 |
Riddell | but should be an easy enough fix to just ignore the utmp test in autoconf | 07:57 |
lamont | but there's utmp on the enduser system | 07:57 |
lamont | Riddell: please do make that change | 07:57 |
Lure | _Sime_: better - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/620411 | 07:58 |
Riddell | will do, thanks for answering my questions | 07:58 |
_Sime_ | Lure: is that a pci card? are you using the drivers from ATI right now? | 08:01 |
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Lure | _Sime_: it is ATI FireGL V5000 PCI-Express card | 08:03 |
Lure | _Sime_: I run "fglrx" currently - can switch to "ati" if you want... | 08:04 |
_Sime_ | Lure: driver? | 08:04 |
_Sime_ | Lure: no, that's ok. | 08:04 |
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cmvo | Lure: Hi! ati/radeon hangs here if I do not disable dri. Haven't tried the fglrx in dapper. | 08:07 |
_Sime_ | Lure: ok, what I want you to do now is pop ScanPCI.py open and go to the "def detect(" about 1/3 in to the file... | 08:10 |
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_Sime_ | oh, he's gone... | 08:25 |
Riddell | Lure: _Sime_ wanted you | 08:26 |
Lure | my konversation is hanging all the time | 08:26 |
Lure | _Sime_: can I help | 08:26 |
_Sime_ | weird | 08:26 |
_Sime_ | Lure: "Lure: ok, what I want you to do now is pop ScanPCI.py open and go to the "def detect(" about 1/3 in to the file..." | 08:27 |
Lure | yes | 08:28 |
Lure | I am there | 08:28 |
_Sime_ | Lure: now comment out that "try: entry.module...." block of stuff that is a few lines down. | 08:29 |
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Lure | yep, it works now | 08:29 |
_Sime_ | Cool. | 08:30 |
_Sime_ | it can't correctly detect your card, but at least it won't bug out. | 08:30 |
Lure | _Sime_: thanks | 08:30 |
_Sime_ | it will just assume vesa. | 08:30 |
_Sime_ | Lure: no, thank you! | 08:30 |
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_Sime_ | ok | 08:30 |
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Tm_T | argh | 10:06 |
Tm_T | forgot to look packaging issues... oh well, it's day tomorrow | 10:06 |
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mornfall | hi, anyone around experiencing the kdesu/adept problem? | 11:01 |
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Pygi | Lure: around? | 11:10 |
Lure | Pygi: yes | 11:12 |
Pygi | look at the case ;) | 11:13 |
Pygi | people asked for n-m 0.6.1 | 11:13 |
Pygi | now when they got it... | 11:13 |
Pygi | now they want n-m CVS | 11:13 |
Pygi | joy :-P | 11:13 |
Lure | seen that - it is always like that... ;-) | 11:14 |
mornfall | raphink: ping? | 11:15 |
raphink | mornfall: yep? | 11:15 |
mornfall | raphink: how much spare time you have? :) | 11:15 |
raphink | depends | 11:15 |
Pygi | Lure: yes, I know :-P | 11:15 |
raphink | I'm working on an XML specif | 11:15 |
raphink | but if it's important I can get rid of it for a time ;) | 11:15 |
mornfall | raphink: well, it would be useful if someone (who can use debuild) could sanity-check adept before upload :) | 11:16 |
raphink | hmm so you want me to check adept, test-build it and upload it? | 11:17 |
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mornfall | raphink: well, i am currently doing some testing myself, but i have been known to let stupid bugs into releases before | 11:18 |
raphink | hehe | 11:18 |
raphink | could you put the package on REVU so I can check it? | 11:18 |
mornfall | what's revu :-) | 11:19 |
mornfall | raphink: i usually just point at a .tar.gz source package ;-) | 11:20 |
raphink | http://revu.tauware.de | 11:20 |
raphink | this is what we use to review packages | 11:20 |
raphink | just give me your PGP key # and you can use dput to upload your package to revu | 11:20 |
raphink | then I can check it there :) | 11:20 |
mornfall | that's lame ;-) | 11:21 |
mornfall | i'll think about it :-) | 11:21 |
raphink | ok | 11:21 |
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raphink | mornfall: it's very useful as it allows several people to check the package and leave comments | 11:22 |
mornfall | raphink: my prepare-upload do-upload timeframe is usually hardly enough for someone to make a comment :] | 11:22 |
raphink | lol | 11:23 |
raphink | yet yo'ure asking me to review ;) | 11:23 |
raphink | so that means you're asking for comments | 11:23 |
raphink | no? | 11:23 |
mornfall | raphink: maybe :) | 11:24 |
raphink | hehe | 11:24 |
mornfall | hmm it started 5 times or so in a row | 11:24 |
raphink | hehe | 11:26 |
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mornfall | laame -- i can't reproduce the kdesu hang at all | 11:47 |
mornfall | hmm, how can i find out which adept version was in flight 4? | 11:56 |
mornfall | bug reporters only rarely give package version, just the flight number | 11:56 |
raphink | hmm ... dl the cd, extract it and look at the package version number ... | 11:58 |
mornfall | very funny | 11:58 |
raphink | or check the history on LP | 11:58 |
mornfall | history of what | 11:58 |
raphink | of the package versions | 11:58 |
raphink | it has the dates of uploads iirc | 11:58 |
raphink | and then you can compare with the date of release for DF4 | 11:58 |
mornfall | okey, that gives approximately "not latest" | 11:59 |
raphink | well | 12:00 |
mornfall | anyone know if klichota comes to irc? :) | 12:00 |
raphink | I can't think of a better way yet | 12:00 |
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