rysiek|plcu all12:03
RogueJediXEr, any way to check out which ports are currently in use on my puter and which app is using it/them12:04
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holy_foolok i got gstreamer0.8-mad_0.8.12-1_i386.deb want to install it12:07
holy_foolar is missing...12:07
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holy_foolwhat can i do ro how do i istall/use deb files12:09
dr_houseanyone here have breezy with an ATI card and fglrx drivers?12:09
chip42dpkg -i file.deb12:09
chip42holy_fool: going to have to use sudo12:10
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holy_foolok how du i do this12:12
holy_fooli know in the console write sude and tahn ^^....12:12
chip42holy_fool: sudo dpkg -i somefile.deb12:12
holy_fooloh thx12:13
chip42and it will either work, or spit some error about needing another package, etc12:13
holy_foolerror ^^12:13
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holy_foolused by another proces...12:13
chip42if you are running apt-get, adept, synaptic, etc, you will get that error if you try to do something else apt related12:15
holy_foolok that was it, but another error ocured ^^ thx12:15
MagicDkhow can i check if my video card it`s working 100% ?!12:16
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holy_foolneed libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.5)12:17
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holy_foolhave libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.3)12:17
dr_housei'm trying to get these ATI drivers: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=30012:18
dr_housedo i need the Xwindows ones?12:18
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holy_fool=( i want ony hear to mp3... ^^ what a work...12:19
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holy_foollisten to...12:19
LeeJunFandr_house: xorg12:21
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_jonathanis read/write possible to ntfs over a network thru cifs?12:24
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dr_housecan anyone help me with installing ATI drivers as per this page? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358412:30
cedrichi i did download a theme from kde looks its a sources, i was trying  to follow the step by step guide in the install text... but when i tape ./configure in terminal, seems like i dont have any compiler available... wich package should i install to fix that up12:31
apokryphoscedric: install build-essential, and it might be a good idea to do something like sudo apt-get build-dep kate12:33
naliothit never hurts to do an "apt-get build-dep PKG"12:34
cedricok thk you12:34
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Dr_Houseanyone ever use samba?01:13
Dr_Houseis there a GUI version of it?01:14
Dr_Housewhat i'm trying to do is i got a desktop running linux and a laptop running windows .. i just wanna transfer soem files over to the laptop over the network01:15
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ryanakcais there a program for configuring apache?01:25
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zblachquick question. printer manager locks every time I use it. why?01:38
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zblachanyone home?01:53
bobbydit should work01:53
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zblachjust stalls. kde 3.5.1 in kubuntu. strangeness, but i'm not too interested in cause, i'm interested in a possible solution01:54
bobbydis cups working ok ?01:55
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jtshawcups is working fun, the kubuntu print configure thing doesn't work well01:57
raphinkjtshaw: known01:57
raphinkthis is because ubuntu now has a beta version of cups01:58
raphinkthat sends errors that kdeprint doesn't know01:58
jtshawmakes sense01:58
raphinkif you're talking about dapper that is :s01:58
raphinkif you're talking about breezy, then no ;)01:58
jtshawya, I was01:58
raphinkin dapper, you can safely ignore the cups error that says no printers were found01:59
raphinkit won't prevent you from adding and using printers01:59
bleakedso i installed kubuntu..and the default set of packages are a little too much for me.  so i'm thinking of doing the minimal 'server' install.  besides xorg, what is recommened for getting the desktop up and running.  (i can take care of apps..i just need vital packages that make audio, video, and KDE function properly.)01:59
jtshawraphink: adding wasn't working well for me either, I used the web interface01:59
zblachbleaked, wireless internet?01:59
bleakedi keep away from that..fucked up energy.01:59
zblachbleaked, good choice02:00
raphinkwhat is too much for you bleaked?02:00
raphinkwhy not remove what is not necessary ?02:00
raphinkthe server install is aimed to be used for ... errr ... servers ;)02:00
raphinkwith no GUI02:01
raphinkyou can still apt-get install kde02:01
raphinkbut well02:01
raphinkwhy is it too much for you actually? you don't have enough disk space?02:01
bleakedlike, to be more specific..i want alsa working with dmix, and stock KDE.02:01
bleakedeven the kde package comes with too much..02:02
bleakedlike in deb, there was kde-base, i believe02:02
bleakeddisk space is not an issue02:02
raphinkthen what is?02:03
bleakedi just had installed kubuntu, and then glanced at the installed packages, and there was just way too much..02:03
bleakedlike 6 or 7 xorg drivers02:03
bleakedfor instance02:03
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raphinkwell remove them02:03
bleakedyea..but i would rather not go one by one removing packages02:04
bleakedi rather have a base system02:04
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raphinkI tell you, if you wanna speak about wasted time, you can try to build your system package by package02:04
bleakedand build from there02:04
bleakedif the package needs a dep02:04
bleakedthen ok, dpkg can handle that02:04
raphinksure of course02:04
raphinkthe default kubuntu install is made to work out of the box on most machines02:04
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bleakedoh i know02:05
bleakedi mean02:05
raphinkif you add package by package, you're very likely to forget some02:05
raphinkit's up to you ;)02:05
raphinkif you want a minimal system, very optimized and so on02:05
raphinkI'd suggest you use gentoo or slack02:05
bleakedi'm coming from two years of gentoo, and the past 4 months with deb.  i like deb..it suites me well..but the software is not updated fast enough for my liking.  great for a server..but not for my casual desktop.02:05
raphinkhave you tried debian sid?02:06
bleakedyea..that's what i was running02:06
raphinkor did you stick with sarge or etch?02:06
bleakedfor instance02:06
raphinkwell sid is quite up-to-date02:06
bleakedkde 3.5 took forever..especially because of a c++ update02:06
bleakedand amarok 1.4 STILL is not in sid.02:07
bleakedthat was the kicker for me02:07
raphinkthe KDE 3.5 packages for breezy are not official02:07
bleakedno pun intented.02:07
raphinksame for amarok02:07
bleakedwell, i'm interested in dapper anyway02:07
zblachis there an issue with cups in 3.5.1?02:07
bleakedidk, maybe i'm being riddiculous02:07
raphinkinterested in developping/bug tracking ?02:07
zblachyeah, updating to dapper'd be cool02:07
raphinkzblach: not that I know of02:08
reconciliationfresh install is better updates are disasters02:08
raphinkreconciliation: hmm sure02:08
bleakedyes, i'm very interested..but currently i have very, very, very minimal coding skills.02:08
raphinkbleaked: are you willing to help with dapper debugging?02:08
raphinkbleaked: we need testers/reporters/trackers/fixers02:09
raphinkif you're volunteering02:09
bleakedyes, i would be interested..my life is relatively busy though..02:10
raphinkbleaked: my coding skills are limited too, if that makes you feel better02:10
bleakedidk if there is a requirement of time or something..02:10
bleakedi doubt it02:10
bleakedbeing oss and all..02:10
raphinkthere's no requirement02:10
raphinkyou're welcome to contribute, that's it02:10
raphinkthe only requirement is to not criticize the work of volunteers without volunteering as much :)02:11
raphinkI don't say that for you, just because there are so many people complaining without doing anything ;)02:11
jtshawraphink: I'm voluntering if you guys need help02:11
raphinkjtshaw: what can you do?02:11
raphinkright now what we need the most is testing/bug  tracking/bug fixing02:12
bleakedraphink. well, i'm on my way out..02:12
bleakeddo i need to contact anyone02:12
jtshawraphink: I develop software for linux by trade and I've been using various linux distro's since 1997 so I'm pretty good at hacking around02:12
bleakedor do anything atm?02:13
raphinkbleaked: do you know how to use malone?02:13
raphinkjtshaw: great02:13
raphinkjtshaw: what do you develop?02:13
jtshawraphink: Mostly our proprietary app, but I've done kernel development.. I'm most comfortable dealing with C and C++ code.. but given a little bit of time I can learn most anything02:14
raphinknice :)02:14
raphinkkubuntu devs gather on #kubuntu-devel02:14
raphinkand you're obviously welcome to come there :)02:14
zblachhey, where is printer information stored?02:15
zblachesp. cups02:15
jtshawI'll have to check that out, thanks for the info02:15
raphinkzblach: how do you mean?02:15
raphinkjtshaw: thanks for helping :)02:15
raphinkwe have tons of bugs to triage/track/fix02:16
raphinkany help is welcome, especially from experienced devs02:16
zblachraphink, the kprinter menu locks, so i'd like to remove any existing printing info and retry02:17
raphinkzblach: did you try the http interface?02:17
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zblachnever thought of that02:19
raphinkheh ;)02:19
raphinkno need for a graphical interface to administrate cups02:19
raphinkthankfully :)02:19
jtshawya.. if your really desperate you can use lpadmin on the command line...02:19
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raphinklinks with localhost:631 works fine02:20
zblachstrange. server timeout02:20
jtshawsadly when I first started using cups I didn't realize the web thing was there02:21
jtshawIt was soon after that I decided sometimes it was a good idea to read the docs first...02:21
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs02:22
raphinkstupid bot02:23
zblachmore likely an /etc/net../int.. error. i've been messing with that for a while. what should the local loopback read?02:23
raphinkbreezy zblach?02:24
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zblachraphink, yup02:25
raphinkI don't have a breezy box here, can't check02:25
zblachprimary workstation. as tempting as dapper sounds, maybe not yet02:25
zblachregardless, i should be able to ping, right?02:27
raphinkyou should yes02:28
raphinkcan you paste your /etc/network/interfaces into a pastebin?02:28
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,02:28
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jindiazhey guys, whats a good system monitor for kde?02:32
raphinkksysguard? :)02:32
jindiazcpu, mobo temp, etc02:32
zblachstrange. i can't admin access control center02:32
jindiazdepend on whut??02:33
raphinkif you want a nice stuff on your desktp you might want to look at superkaramba themes jindiaz02:33
raphinkzblach: are you up-to-date ?02:33
jindiazpreferasbly something i could have running at all times02:33
raphinkjindiaz: you know you can access ksysguard with ctrl+esc ?02:33
zblachraphink, i02:33
zblach'm pretty sure02:34
JohnFluxraphink: better to run it from the menu02:34
jindiazcool, im checking it out now.  and yah i knew that, but i need mobo temp, cpu temp, fan revolution speed, etc02:34
raphinkJohnFlux: hmm yes right, it's not the same02:34
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raphinkjindiaz: you need to install the sensors packages first iirc02:34
raphinkJohnFlux: oh nice :)02:34
JohnFluxand yeah, I know it sucks02:34
jindiazsensors package?02:35
JohnFluxbut it's looking nice for kde4 ;)02:35
jindiazwhats that?02:35
raphinkgood :)02:35
JohnFluxjindiaz: lmsensors i think02:35
raphinkjindiaz: apt-cache search sensors02:35
raphinkyou'll see02:35
raphinkJohnFlux: yes that's it thanks :)02:35
JohnFluxjindiaz: i think you'll like the superkaramba desklets02:35
raphinkjindiaz: then as i said you might want to use superkaramba themes02:35
jindiazhmmm cool cool, ill check it out now, and going to get that lmsensors thing02:36
CheeseBurgerManlm-sensors is the package FYI02:37
zblachok. network restart lets me ping myself, but i still can't connect to http://localhost:63102:40
jindiazo cool thanks alot man02:41
jindiazumm question though, how come it wont come up?02:42
jindiazits not like working02:44
jindiaznothing comes up when i press restore02:44
jindiazand i cant seem to get the setting sot apply02:44
raphinknot sure, but you might have to reboot once you install the sensors02:44
jindiazhmmm ok, ill try that really quickly then02:45
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Dr_Housewhat do you guys use you to play avis?02:49
zblachnow cups refuses to connect02:49
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raphinkDr_House: kaffeine here02:50
constantine-xvianyone have trouble with printers in dapper?02:51
Dr_Houseraphink, how did you configure it to play files properly/02:51
constantine-xvicant connect to local non-hp printers02:51
raphinkinstall w32codecs02:51
uboturestrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats02:51
jtshawconstantine-xvi: Yes... use http://localhost:631 to configure if the interface isn't working for you yet02:51
jtshawthe gui interface that is..02:52
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zblachnow localhost is asking me for a username and password...02:53
constantine-xvijtshaw: when i got to device, i didn't see an option for USB, like i did in breezy02:53
constantine-xvisaw nearly everything but straight usb or parallel02:54
jtshawdoes it appear that the usb modules are loaded?02:54
constantine-xvijtshaw: general usb? they're definitley loaded.  printers: not sure02:55
constantine-xviin breezy, i saw a list of "USB Printer #1-> x"02:55
Dr_Houseraphink, thanks02:55
constantine-xvinot now02:55
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jtshawif you look in dmesg do you see it detected?02:56
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constantine-xvibut kprint or the cups page doesn't seem to give an option for local printers02:57
Dr_Houseraphink .. there doesn't seem to be an amd64 version of "w32codecs"02:57
jtshawthat is a good point constantine.. I don't have it either.. didn't notice before because all my printers are on the network02:58
jtshawdr_house: that is because they are 32bit binaries I'd guess02:58
constantine-xvigoing to check launchpad for a report02:58
constantine-xvifound a few instances of this bug on launchpad03:04
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LaserJockheah, is there anybody that has scientific apps installed?03:08
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okrimthough, im not on my normal box at the moment03:10
LaserJockIs there a "Science" menu in KDE?03:10
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okrimerm, ya, i think so03:10
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LaserJockokrim: and it isn't under Educational?03:11
okrimah, it may be educational03:11
okrimi rarely use the menu.. all links on the desktop for me.. heh03:11
LaserJocknp, thanks03:11
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purplefeltangelok, say i want to delete all the KDE packages from my computer because i totally screwed something up and can't uninstall kubuntu-desktop, so i need to reinstall it but it won't let me because it's screwed up. what would be the best way to accomplish that without further wrecking my system?03:34
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CheeseBurgerManpurplefeltangel: Assuming you have ubuntu-desktop installed (or xubuntu-desktop), try http://robotgeek.org/wiki/ShellScripts/CleanPackage03:35
bimberipurplefeltangel: removing libqt3-mt will take pretty much all of KDE with it03:35
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CheeseBurgerManOh, that  too03:35
purplefeltangelthank you both03:36
bimberiOh,  that  too03:36
purplefeltangelwill either of those things mess up my computer?03:36
CheeseBurgerManNot other than removing KDE. ;)03:36
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP03:36
bimberipurplefeltangel: you'll still have at least a minimal install that can connect to the 'net so you can install things back again03:37
purplefeltangelbimberi: well i have ubuntu-desktop installed03:37
ubotuqemu is, like, totally, an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=103:39
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bimberibimberi: so you should still have gnome etc. then :)  none of ubuntu-desktop's dependencies need libqt3-mt so it should all still be there if you uninstall it03:40
ubotuI guess avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:46
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:48
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ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu03:51
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ubuntu_rocksanyone have problems with kubuntu desktop freezing up or not responding properly?03:53
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me2winubuntu_rocks, thats a pretty vague description for a problem03:55
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mendredubuntu_rocks: which version of kubuntu are u using?03:58
CheeseBurgerManubuntu_rocks: No. What are you doing to it? :P03:58
ubuntu_rockslol the latest flight 503:58
mendredubuntu_rocks: hmmm..when is this freeze happening? randomly?03:59
ubuntu_rocksiknow its vague, but i've re installed it twice and it will install no problem but once installed and i goto menu items  eg. open office.. it wont load03:59
ubuntu_rocksyes randomly03:59
ubuntu_rocksregularly ubuntu works fine (gnome)03:59
mendredinstalled from cd?03:59
mendredtry updating04:00
ubuntu_rocksisn't kubuntu flight 5 the latest version of kde?04:00
mendredi meant update from the repos04:01
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mendredusing synaptic/adept04:01
mendredwhatever u use04:01
ubuntu_rocksok ill have to try that04:01
mendredrun a full system upgrade04:02
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mendredand then see if the problem continues04:02
ubuntu_rocksok i dont think its my system because i've tried it on two diffent systems and both seem to react the same way04:02
mendredout of curiosity does ur mouse cursor also freeze?04:02
mendredhmmm do an update04:02
mendredthat should resolve it04:02
ubuntu_rocksdoyou know what update actually fixes the problem by chance?04:03
mendredincidentally have u enabled hard disk write caching?04:03
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ubuntu_rocksummm.. unless it is enabled by default then no04:03
mendredcan u do04:04
ubuntu_rockshow do i do it?04:04
mendredsudo hdparm -I /dev/hda04:04
mendredand just see if there is a asterix against write cache04:04
mendredand are u using a laptop?04:05
ubuntu_rocksyes i am using a laptop04:05
mendredk join the club..i had the same problem as urs :)04:05
mendredupdate ur system it should solve it04:06
ubuntu_rocksmy other system was a desktop though and it did the same thing04:06
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mendredwell do a full system upgrade using adept..and just see if that resolves it04:07
ubuntu_rocksby the way there is an asterisk beside write cache04:08
ubuntu_rocksthats on my ubuntu laptop im on now04:08
ubuntu_rockswhats the diff between adept and synaptic?04:10
mendredboth do the same thing..04:10
mendredsynaptic is much older04:10
ubuntu_rocksoh  do u think adept is better?04:10
mendredhmmm nopes04:10
mendredi use synaptic all the time...04:11
mendredcause i am used to it04:11
ubuntu_rocksok just wondering thats all :)04:11
mendredbut adept is supposed to be the kubuntu package manager04:11
mendredi really can't say04:11
mendredcause i dont really use adept that much04:11
ubuntu_rocksok well thanks for all the info thus far.. i really appreciate it. I'll go get rid of suse 10 on my desktop and re-install kubuntu flight 5 and do updates and see if it fixes the problem04:12
ubuntu_rocksdo u know which desktop  uses the least amount of resources? gnome or kde?04:12
mendredhistorically gnome...04:12
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mendredbut haven't used gnome for a while04:13
mendredi guess kde is always a little more resource intensive04:13
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ubuntu_rockshmm ok04:13
mendredbut to me a little bit more easier to use in the sense u can do exactly what u want..04:14
ubuntu_rockswith kde?04:14
mendredi would suggest u try both04:14
mendredand decide what u like04:14
mendredit depends from person to person04:14
ubuntu_rocksya i've used both and i prefer kde.. just seems to have more useful apps with it as well04:14
mendredwell...gnome philosophy is to simplify things..04:15
mendredso the number of apps will probably be lesser04:15
ubuntu_rocksugh.. if you simplify things too much it weakens the product (just my opinion)04:16
mendredbut again apps can be used in either...04:16
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mendredwell u can run amarok in gnome and gimp in kde04:16
mendredfor eg.04:16
ubuntu_rocksbut you cant run koffice in gnome though correct04:16
mendredi dont see why not :)04:17
tristanmikeyou can run it, but it's windows and buttons don't adapt to the "Gnome Lifestyle" as I understand it04:17
fatejudgerit works like crap04:17
fatejudgerand Gnome is slow anyways04:17
mendredtristanmike: i stand corrected04:17
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mendredubuntu_rocks: Like i said i am the wrong person to ask these..last gnome i used was what 2.8..04:18
mendred<a href="http://mendred.bravejournal.com">04:18
mendredthis touch pad04:18
tristanmikeI <3 them all equally, they all have a purpose04:18
mendredis too sensitive04:19
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ubuntu_rocksthanks again everyone :)04:21
ubuntu_rocksgood nite or morning04:22
fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to make one kicker panel transparent and the other one not?04:22
jesusfishanyone here know how to make KDE/XGL/compiz-gnome work?04:22
fatejudgerjesusfish: video card?04:22
jesusfishfatejudger: nVidia 620004:22
jesusfishfatejudger: used it with a XGL live CD already04:22
Dr_Housewiki mentions that w32codecs dont work with amd64 and says this is a fix: Some people on AMD64 solve this problem by installing a 32-bit version of the operating system inside a chroot (such as via Linux Vserver or [WWW]  dchroot), and this works very well.    .. anyone know what that means?04:22
fatejudgerjesusfish: there's a howto for nvidia cards on the forums04:23
fatejudgeryou're lucky, I have an ATI04:23
fatejudgerwhich doesn't work04:23
fatejudgerat least in KDE04:23
fatejudgeryou'll have to go to the first page04:24
jesusfishfatejudger: thx04:25
fatejudgerjesusfish: np04:25
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ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:27
fatejudgerme2win: wtf are you doing here?04:27
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me2winfatejudger, im always on here04:29
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[BreliC] hey, is there a kubuntu+xgl channel?04:29
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leif_anyone got agood howto/idea how to get all codecs to work in Kaffein?04:30
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me2winubotu, tell leif_ about restricted04:30
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/04:32
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purplefeltangelwhy is kubuntu-desktop going to take like 3 hrs to download??!!04:33
purplefeltangeli dont remember it taking that long the first time o_o;04:33
CheeseBurgerManConnection must be slower04:33
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purplefeltangelGHEY ;.;04:34
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ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jtshaw04:38
jtshawok.. I'll bite (having a blond moment here).. anyone know the the kubuntu dev channel is?04:41
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erofeehi guys and girls04:50
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erofeecan anyone suggest a good starting point for a person completely new to Kubuntu and Linux04:50
okriminstalling it? :P04:50
okrimnot sure where to point you.. what are you looking for exactly?04:51
CheeseBurgerManI know somewhere04:51
CheeseBurgerManJust gotta find it04:51
okrimknow what?04:51
Dr_Housedammit .. is there no way to play divx files on breezy with amd64 architecture04:51
okrimoh.. heh04:52
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robotgeekDr_House, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:54
Dr_Houserobotgeek i checked that, but none of it is workign for me04:56
Dr_Housei enabled universe and multiverse repos but i can't find anything in the 'other non-free formats section'04:57
robotgeekDr_House: i think vlc plays divx04:57
Dr_Housei'll try that out, thanks04:58
Dr_Houseoh, awesome .. it works04:58
leif_how do i assosiate wmv with VLC ?05:00
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jesusfishhmm...anyone using XGL know why gnome-window-manager starts but I have no winddecs?05:04
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darkmatterCan someone help me with installing kubuntu to a secondary hard drive from the dvd?05:10
darkmatterI downloaded the Dapper Drake dvd and it took me about 2 days, so id rather not give up05:11
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robotgeekdarkmatter: moment05:12
CheeseBurgerManWhat have you done so far?05:12
darkmatterdownloaded the newest i86 iso, burned to dvd, booted in live mode, then restarted and tried to install05:12
darkmatterbut it wouldnt recognize any device05:13
CheeseBurgerManGrr, never tried using a live installer05:13
darkmatteri tried hda, hdb, hdc, hdd05:13
CheeseBurgerManAfraid I'll have to pass05:13
darkmatterwell, the installer isnt live05:14
darkmatterIts in the linux boot menu05:14
darkmatteror whatever is after bios05:14
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darkmatteri prefer christmuffin05:15
darkmatterrolls of the tongue a bit easier05:15
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darkmatteri never quite understand IRC's.....05:18
darkmatterlists tons of people on but no one talks05:18
darkmatterit frightens me05:18
darkmatterwhat is humanity becoming?05:18
purplefeltangeldarkmatter: i talk. sometimes. :D05:18
CheeseBurgerManI just haven't a clue what to do, therefore, I don't speak. :P05:18
darkmattera voiceless mob of nothingness?05:18
Arcanimusgood night all05:18
darkmatterthey speak!05:18
purplefeltangeli am cycling between channels to see if anything being said interests me05:19
purplefeltangeland getting support in ##windows05:19
darkmatterdoes that interest you?05:19
purplefeltangelbut btw, this might be better for #kubuntu-offtopic05:19
darkmatterwell, im here for on topic05:19
darkmatterno one seems to notice me05:19
purplefeltangelsorry. what is your problem? :P05:19
darkmatterso i feel neglected05:19
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darkmatterwell, i downloaded the latest i86 kubuntu dapper dvd05:20
darkmattertook about 2 days05:20
darkmatterburned it to a dvd05:20
darkmatterlive works fine05:20
darkmatterbut i cant instal it to this secondary hard drive ive been itching to use05:20
darkmatteractually, got it specifically for dual booting linux05:20
purplefeltangelwhat specific problemsa re you having?05:21
darkmatterin the kubuntu boot menu, right after bios, when i choose "install to hard disk"  it starts, then says something like device does not exist05:21
darkmatterso, after trying the default it goes with05:21
darkmatteri tried hda, hdb, hdc, hdd05:21
darkmattersame thing05:22
purplefeltangelooh :/05:22
purplefeltangeli have no idea there.05:22
darkmatterwould that mean primary hard disk partition 1?05:22
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darkmatterbecause I want to install it to my secondary hard drive05:22
CheeseBurgerManhdb1 probably05:23
jesusfishdo gconf/compiz settings take effect right away?05:23
darkmattermy primary is literally clogged to the point of a windows heart attack05:23
darkmatterhave you guys installed dapper drake from the dvd yet?05:23
purplefeltangeli'm still on Breezy05:24
purplefeltangelterrified of upgrading :P05:24
purplefeltangelrofl sorry i am not very helpful05:24
darkmatteri was gonna get breezy, but I read somewhere that i need dapper to install xgl05:24
darkmatterthats ok :)05:25
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darkmatterdoes linux recognize NTFS disk format?05:25
darkmattercould that be the problem?05:25
Dasnipa`you can mount read only05:25
darkmatterwhat would that do?05:26
Dasnipa`but no that shouldnt be a problem05:26
darkmatterso in the installed05:26
Dasnipa`you can mount ntfs read only so you have access to your files... but write access is experimental05:26
darkmatterwhat should the command line be to install it to my secondary hd05:26
darkmatteror what is the difference between secondary and slave?05:27
darkmatterim not sure which it is05:27
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_soulpor favor alguem ai tem problemas com o kate05:28
_soulo meu nao abre nem a pau05:28
darkmatterwell, ill try the hdb105:28
_soulfui desinstalar ele no apt e quase desinstalava o kubuntu junto05:28
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:28
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CheeseBurgerManI think so05:28
_soulnum tem ubuntu-br-br ?05:28
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ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.05:31
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purplefeltangelif i am installing kubuntu-desktop and it asks me which display manager i want as default, what should i say?05:44
koolatronwhatever your heart of heart moves you to truly choose05:44
purplefeltangelbut like05:44
purplefeltangeli don't understand what choice i'm making05:45
koolatron(it doesn't matter.  gdm versus kdm is more a choice of aesthetics than anything else)05:45
bimberipurplefeltangel: essentially what login screen you want05:45
purplefeltangel:S i don't get it ;.; what *are* they?05:45
koolatronYou start up your computer, and you get a graphical login screen05:45
koolatronthat's your display manager.05:45
purplefeltangelso if i want to stay with the one i have now, i choose . . . gdm?05:46
koolatrongdm is gnome's display manager, but it doesn't have a problem starting a kde session up for you if you've got kubuntu-desktop installed05:46
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koolatronyou can always change it if you don't like it05:46
purplefeltangelhokay thank you05:46
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purplefeltangelok say i have just installed kubuntu and i want to uninstall some unnecessary programs . . . what would be a list of everything i definitely should NOT touch?06:05
naliothpurplefeltangel: when you go to uninstall something, if it takes more than 3 dozen other things, that's one that should stay06:06
purplefeltangelerrr . . .06:06
Hobbseeyou should definetly not touch libqt3-mt06:09
purplefeltangelhobbsee: no, i wouldn't think that would be a good idea.06:10
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_jonathanis anyone there?06:32
_jonathanI'm wondering if there are any packages for nvidia 8178 for breezy06:33
_jonathanI would like to use it because I understand it has much more stable compostite features06:34
_jonathanbut I don't want to redo it everytime I upgrade the kernel06:35
jayr168how do I change mouse wheel sensitivity in gnome?06:35
crimsun_jonathan: afaik you'll have to redo it per-kernel upgrade06:36
_jonathanyeah, i knew that06:37
_jonathani know it's not that big of a deal...it's just a lot easier with everything being .debs06:37
_jonathanand I wonder how much trouble it will be when I upgrade to dapper06:38
crimsundapper has 8178 already06:38
_jonathancan i ask your honest opinion crimsun06:40
_jonathando you think dapper is stable enough to upgrade to at this point?06:40
nalioth_jonathan: if you have to ask, then no.  one never knows when an update will come down and bodger the machine you put it on06:43
nalioth_jonathan: can you do without your machine if that happens? or work around the malfunction?06:43
_jonathansure, but i dont like to :-)06:44
_jonathani appreciate your straight forwardness06:44
nalioth_jonathan: i've got a machine right now that is deaf to any network, due to a bolluxed upgrade06:46
_jonathanwell, i think i am going to wait06:47
nalioth_jonathan: i'll recover it in a week or two with a daily install disc or the next flight release06:47
_jonathanI enjoy everything how it is now. I just wanted the new drivers for the improved composite support06:47
naliothbut i've got lots of machines and none of my primary ones have dapper on them06:47
_jonathanthis is true06:48
_jonathanand it wouldn't be so bad if i wouldn't have spent days tweaking and placing everything :-)06:48
_jonathanstupid question, there is a good chance I couldn't just use the dapper nvidia packages right06:50
nalioth_jonathan: most likely they'd cry out for their vintage of cohorts06:53
_jonathanthought so :)06:53
_jonathanoh well, I'll just install the driver and wait for a few months till dapper is released and more stable06:53
_jonathanthank you again for your reasoning nalioth06:54
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nalioth_jonathan: well, i don't like broken boxes06:56
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_josh_i have a really n00bish question07:01
_josh_how do i enable NTFS support in Kubuntu?07:01
naliothubotu: tell _josh_ about ntfs07:01
naliothpriv msg inbound07:02
naliothyou won't have write support, just read07:02
_josh_thanks alot07:02
morzeledit fstab07:02
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morzel /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222        0       007:02
morzeland then07:02
morzelsudo umount -a07:02
morzelmount -a07:03
morzelsudo mount -a07:03
naliothmorzel: if you're gonna intruct, please be more comprehensive07:03
_josh_yeah, im a real n00b, new into Linux07:04
_josh_and i have no idea what your talking about07:04
morzelnalioth: what does this word mean: comprehensive?07:04
morzeli have a bad english :(07:04
naliothmorzel: means you forgot to tell _josh_ to "sudo mkdir /media/hda5" or w/e07:04
nalioth_josh_: read the pm ubotu sent you, that will be easiest07:05
morzelyou don't need mkdir07:05
morzelit's doing at install kubuntu07:05
morzelyou have a trouble with only permissions07:05
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_josh_im reading it, thanks07:06
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_josh_is there a type of copy and paste key combination in Kubuntu?07:08
MadSekkaiHow do I check to see if a file is installed?07:08
admrl_josh ctrl-c ctrl-v07:09
morzelctrl-insert shift-insert07:09
naliothMadSekkai: alt-f2 > adept07:09
admrlMadSekkai: dpkg -l | grep programname on the command line07:09
_josh_Ctrl-V doesnt work within the terminal does it07:09
morzelshift-insert works07:10
admrl_josh and if your mouse has 3 buttons07:10
nalioth_josh_: depends on the terminal07:10
morzeltry it07:10
admrltry clicking the middle button07:10
MadSekkaiWell. I have a big problem.07:10
MadSekkaiLet's say like I have a window open on the right... like XChat or something.07:10
_josh_ooo it did work, thanks07:10
MadSekkaiand I try to rename a file on my Desktop... it doesn't let me.07:10
MadSekkaiWhen I type nothing happens.07:11
MadSekkaiWhy doesn't it work, and how do I fix it?07:12
_josh_it said it couldnt find the disks!07:15
_josh_no suitable windows/mac disks found(which i have both an NTFS and HFS+ partitions)07:16
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morzel_josh_: what is the output of the "sudo fdisk -l" command?07:23
morzeland what is in your fstab?07:23
_josh_i ran the script and got the error07:24
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_josh_now, the website i was sent, is going into the manual method07:25
_josh_which i believe is what you said07:25
_josh_my god this is confusing07:26
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nalioth_josh_: type in a console "sudo fdisk -l"07:26
nalioth_josh_: that error msg is quite common, even after the script has functioned properly07:27
_josh_ok, i have the list now07:27
nalioth_josh_: do you see your partitions in it?07:27
_josh_yes i do07:27
naliothgood! :)07:28
_josh_muy bueno!07:28
_josh_what next ;>07:28
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_josh_cmon man07:32
nalioth_zZz_josh_: what?07:32
_josh_ha, i thought you left07:32
nalioth_zZz_josh_: your fstab has been augmented07:32
_josh_i have this partition list07:32
nalioth_zZzyour disks will mount automatically now07:32
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_josh_i never actually did anything though07:33
_josh_i just listed the partitions07:33
nalioth_zZzthen nothing actually happened07:33
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_josh_thats the problem. storage media still does show my media partition07:33
nalioth_zZzif you ran the script using 'sudo', you've accomplished what you requested07:33
nalioth_zZzuse your file manager07:33
_josh_this was supposed to be "the peoples linux"07:35
nalioth_zZz_josh_: people need sleep. i've been in here over 12 hours today07:35
_josh_by all means sleep dude. g'night07:35
nalioth_zZzif you ask nicely there are people who can help you07:36
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nalioth_zZzor don't07:39
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quickquestionis there a localisation file for albanian (in terms of KDE)07:42
uswhy is everything in the most bleeding edge KDE so huge07:45
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quickquestionus good question07:45
Tsagadaiits driving me crazy07:45
Tsagadaidoes it have a fix07:46
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Tsagadaiwell can anyone help with the latest kubuntu upgrade having an unusably large font and window size?07:50
HobbseeTsagadai: breezy or dapper?07:54
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tijnAFKcan i force apt to remove something?07:56
Tsagadaii ran an apt-get upgrade yesterday and today everything is so large i had to change to a higher res monitor07:56
Tsagadaiapt-get remove i think07:56
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HobbseeTsagadai: when did you last upgrade?07:57
Hobbseeand what are your fonts set to, in system settings?07:58
Tsagadailike 12 hours ago07:58
tijnAFKTsagadai: no i mean like force07:58
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Tsagadaiin system settings size 5 at the moment(and still huge) in zorg.conf 75dpi07:58
Tsagadairm works :)07:58
Hobbsee*scratches head*07:59
Hobbseei wonder what happened there - it should be set to 96 dpi, with the fonts at around 10-1107:59
Hobbseeiv'e got no idea, sorry - i havent noticed any changes on my system today, also running dapper07:59
Tsagadaiive changed both settings07:59
Hobbseeah, i see08:00
Tsagadaithey offered minor fixes08:00
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Tsagadaiive seen some talk on the web it has something to do with nvidia08:00
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Hobbseecould well do - google?08:01
Tsagadai<<running GF4-46008:01
Tsagadaihasn't turned up much so i came here08:01
Hobbseei see08:02
Tsagadaiis there some way to revert to my previous version08:02
Hobbseepersonally, i dont know.  then again, i dont know everything.08:02
Tsagadaiwho does :)08:02
Hobbseemaybe someone else who's here?08:03
Hobbseeif you grab the old deb, you can usually install it by sudo dpkg -i foo.deb08:03
Hobbseeold deb will be in /var/cache/apt/archives, among other places08:03
Hobbseeoh, and file a bug for it on malone08:03
Tsagadaiyay more bugs!08:05
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Tsagadaii found a few yesterday as well :)08:05
Tsagadainothing major or hard to fix08:06
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Hobbseewhat di dyou find yesterday?08:07
Hobbseehi iGadget08:07
tijndutchie :D08:07
iGadgetanyone running dapper already?08:07
iGadgetgreat... I have this very weird problem with x.org08:08
Tsagadaiseveral minor overruns in ark08:08
Tsagadaihit us with the prob gadget08:08
iGadgetI have a 1600x1200 flatpanel connected, but I only get to use it up to 1280x102408:08
iGadgetI already edited x.org.conf to comment any other modelines etc that do not say 1600x120008:09
iGadgetthen I killed kdm by using ctrl-alt-backspace08:09
iGadgetbut it keeps coming back @ 1280x102408:09
iGadgetwhere does kdm / kde get it's config from, if not from x.org.conf?08:10
iGadgetOr do I actually have to reboot for this? :\08:10
tijnkde runs on the xserver so, it gets its config from there08:11
iGadgettijn: that's what I thought...08:11
iGadgetbut if so, 1280x1024 shouldn't be available anymore whatsoever08:11
tijnwell, you changed your xorg.conf.. do have more lines in it with resolutions?08:11
iGadgetwhat's also funny, is that when I installed the nvidia binary drivers yesterday, I could scale up to 1600x1200. But after a reboot, things were all back @ 1280x102408:12
iGadgettijn: yes, but they're all commented out08:12
iGadgetall of them, except the 1600x1200 ones08:12
tijnand if you look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?08:13
tijncan you paste it @ pastebin?08:14
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iGadgethmmm... this sounds bad:08:16
iGadget(II) NV(0): Mode "1600x1200@60" is larger than BIOS programmed panel size of 1280 x 1024.  Removing.08:16
iGadgetsounds like the nv driver is doing some probing on it's own and ignoring xorg.conf...08:17
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tijnmmh yes, i think thats why it doesnt work08:18
iGadgetthen why did it work yesterday? :\08:18
tijnit might be your nvidia driver08:19
iGadgetit's the one shipping with kubuntu dapper08:21
iGadgetthe latest afaik08:21
iGadget'shipping' as soon as you add universe, that is08:22
tijnwell, larger than BIOS programmed..08:22
iGadgetNV(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized.08:22
iGadgetmaybe I should disable i2c?08:22
iGadgetdon't probe, just keep the specified settings08:23
tijndont know you can try it08:23
iGadgetwill do08:23
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ubotuwell, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH08:25
Hobbsee!no ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH08:25
ubotuHobbsee: okay08:25
Hobbseestupid commas.08:25
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iGadgetstill no luck08:36
iGadgeti2c module is happily ignored08:36
iGadgetand probed directly by the nvidia driver08:36
iGadgetlet's try commenting module 'ddc' now08:37
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iGadgetno effect08:39
tijnyou could try a dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver08:40
tijnyou could try a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:41
tijnso you reconfigure it08:41
iGadgetwill do08:41
iGadgetOr... I should check dell for a panel BIOS update08:41
iGadgetsince it's reporting it's native res wrong08:42
iGadget(hell, I didn't even know tft's HAD a bios...)08:42
tijnme neither :)08:43
tijnyou could try a reconfigure08:43
tijndont think its ur screen08:43
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Steven_Mhi all08:45
Steven_Mwhich apt-get source would be the best one to downlod kde 5.1 from?08:47
koshI would try one that has a time machine08:48
koshsince kde 3.5.1 is the most current version :)08:48
koshif you manage to get 5.1 can you send me the source code? :)08:49
iGadgettijn: just ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... let's pray ;)08:54
tijnik bid ff stukje mee ;)08:54
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iGadgetno change...08:55
iGadgetoh yes, something has changed - it's now @ 85Hz instead of 6008:55
Steven_Mkosh: sorry I meant 3.5.108:56
iGadgetSteven_M: try dapper flight5, has 3.5.1 included08:56
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koshif you are using breezy tnen kde 3.5.1 is here deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main08:58
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iGadgettijn: fixed it!09:01
iGadgetapparently, the nvidia driver wasn't properly installed09:02
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iGadgetran nvidia-xconfig again - boom - working09:02
tijnah sweet09:02
Steven_Mthank  kosh09:03
iGadgetso... driver 'nv' is bad09:03
iGadgetdriver 'nvidia' is good09:03
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Russelcan anybody tell me what skim is? running after an upgrade on my station09:23
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robotgeekRussel: skim is to allow input in non-english languages09:24
Tm_Tyou mean non-latin characters?09:25
robotgeekTm_T: :)09:25
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Tm_Tbecause I speak non-english language and yet can write all without skim ;)09:26
Tm_Trobotgeek: share it09:26
robotgeekTm_T: noted09:26
Tm_Toh well09:27
robotgeektime for bed, so later09:27
Russelso i need it? at the moment this semes useless09:27
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Tm_Trobotgeek_zzz: good night :)09:27
Tm_TRussel: I doubt you need it09:27
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Russelok... thx09:28
Tm_Tjust kill it and see if you miss something09:28
Tm_Tif not, it's useless to you09:28
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alexnicolDoes anyone know owt about printer drivers?09:33
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glickscuse me i installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu, and the first thing i notice is that the fonts are why crappily large09:54
glickwhats wit dat?09:54
visik7is there any inconvenience in using a vanilla kernel over the ubuntu kernel? I mean: is there some patches vital for ubuntu not privided by vanilla kernel ?09:54
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planBglick, run xdpyinfo | grep resolution10:03
planBglick so what's your dpi?10:03
glickanother question is 3.4.3 not the version i want to be using?10:03
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iGadgetwtf... just installed nvidia driver10:04
glicksh: xpdyinfo: command not found10:04
iGadgetbut  the KDE display settings still say the 'nv' driver is loaded10:04
iGadgetwhat's that all about10:04
planBsorry glick sudo apt-get install xdpyinfo first10:04
glickplanB, it cant find the packate10:05
glicki do like the file previews10:07
simianif xgl is working correctly do you still need nvidia/ati drivers or have i get the wrong end of the stick?10:10
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iGadgetgotta run10:15
TobyKi'm having issues with Kubuntu and usb drives, can anyone help?10:16
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TobyKi'm having issues with Kubuntu and usb drives, can anyone help?10:18
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brunftrunning a fresh Kubuntu Breezy install10:47
brunfti now realized that there should be a menu "Window" in Konqueror10:47
brunftBut there isn't :(10:47
brunftAny ideas why?10:49
brunftOr how to get it?10:49
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brunftThe menu "Go" (contained in a screenshot in the Konqueror help) is also missing :(10:53
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Blissexbrunft: Konqueror can be started in one of several profiles, perhaps the profile you are using does not have them yet.10:58
Blissexbrunft: look at 'Settings:Load profile'10:59
Blissexbrunft: look at 'Settings:Load view profile' and select a profile which is not the ''simple'' one.10:59
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brunftBlissex: I don't even have the Settings:Load profile menu entry11:07
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Blissexbrunft: thats sort of unlikely. But le tm check how Konqueror looks with the simple profile11:08
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tijn11:09
ubotutijn: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:09
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Blissexbrunft: BTW try typing in a terminal window: kfmclient openProfile 'Web Browsing'11:09
brunftThats the command of my Konqueror link in the panel11:10
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brunftIf i run kfmclient without parameter seems to open also whe Web Browsing profile11:11
brunftis there a sort of complex/advanced profile i can load?11:11
Blissexbrunft: that is the complex/advanced profile :-)11:12
brunftoh =)11:12
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Blissexbrunft: the profiles you can try have the names of the files in '~/.de/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/11:12
Blissexbrunft: the profiles you can try have the names of the files in '~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/11:13
Blissexbrunft: so try some other one.11:13
tijnhow do i change the kdm theme?11:14
brunftBlissex: By default there is no such directory ... i now saved the current profile and it was created11:16
Blissexbrunft: ahhh, that might explain something perhaps.11:16
brunftBlissex: How do i change the profile, especially add/change menu's?11:16
Blissexbrunft: well, you change profile by changing Konqueror, and then saving. No idea about menus.11:18
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brunftThere are some other profiles, i see them if i save a profile, will try to find the location of them11:19
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Blissexbrunft: try 'locate konqueror/profile'11:22
brunftyo found it, but they also do not display my missing menu's ...11:23
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brunftWhat i even do not understand is, why there is a menu entry to save profiles but none to load them11:24
simiandoes anybody know why kaudiocreator just pauses when you click on rip11:24
simianit's like it's waiting for something?11:24
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brunftBlissex: Will post the issue into the Kubuntu forums, thanks for your help anyway11:38
markchowdy, I upgraded one machine to dapper, instead of install flight6 from scratch, and I don't seem to be able to switch to administration mode in the control panel (ie; for cups)... any suggestion what package(s) I might  be missing ?11:38
markcoops, I meant flight511:38
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markcor, what package is needed for KDE sudo under the hood ? (gksu or something perhaps?)11:41
bimberimarkc: perhaps kdesu (which is part of the kdebase-bin)11:46
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morzelhi all12:20
morzeldo you know, how can i change the default font of open office impress?12:20
morzelit's helvetica now, and i have a big problems with it12:20
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dash-mm i just fully upgraded to latest drapper12:23
dash-now when kde comes to the login screen its all distorted12:23
dash-if i do ctrl + alt f112:23
dash-and then ctrl + alt f712:23
dash-and it refreshes ok12:24
dash-and i can see it12:24
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dash-dunno why i need to refresh12:24
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reonI have the same issue12:26
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reonbusy upgrading my flight 5 install I did a few minutes ago12:26
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dash-yeah im fully upgraded12:32
dash-still same prob12:32
dash-ive got an IBM T4112:33
SkrotFFSWhat prob?12:35
dash-read a few lines up12:36
SkrotFFSdoesn't happend here :>12:37
SkrotFFSWhat does, however, is that closing the lid of my laptop causes acpid to use all my CPU..12:37
SkrotFFSMy CPU went up to 98 degrees celcius yesterday because of it..12:38
SkrotFFSYeah.. pentium-m dies at ~100 ;)12:38
SkrotFFSI need to sort that shit out :p12:38
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tijnhow do i change the kdm theme?12:48
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_rooti apt-get install terminal but I cannot find it under the k menu12:57
markcanyone know what package allows for administration mode in the control panel ?12:57
_rootwhy? where do I find it?12:57
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GNU_Stylei apt-get install terminal but I cannot find it under the k menu12:58
markc_root: do you mean konsole ?12:58
GNU_StyleI have konsole, but I want the terminal in GNOME style12:58
markcit's probably in /usr/bin12:59
markcie; start it from konsole, make sure you have the right program, then manually add it to kmenu12:59
GNU_Styleits not the right one.. do you know the name of the default terminal in gnome?01:00
GNU_Styleim having problems with 'konsole'01:01
markcno, sorry ... I'm perfectly happy with konsole, never used anything else, except bash01:01
GNU_Styleis konsole = bash?01:01
GNU_Stylemy problem with konsole is if I paste something it add '2~' line01:02
markcyes, konsole uses bash as the actuall shell process01:02
markcapt-cache search terminal | grep gnome01:02
iegaryGNU_Style: the default GNOME terminal is "gnome-terminal" (also the package name)01:02
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GNU_Styleohh ic01:03
GNU_Stylewhen I used C-A-insert in konsole it adds a '2~' after the pasted text.. why?01:03
markcGNU_Style: that does nothing with my konsole settings01:04
GNU_Styleexample is I copied the text 'apt-get' and paste in to konsole it paste's 'apt-get2~' why is this so?01:05
markcGNU_Style: how did you copy it ?01:05
iegarythe default insert shortcut is C-S-insert?01:05
markcso I can try the same thing01:05
GNU_Stylectrl+c  in a text file and paste it using ctrl+alt+insert in konsole01:06
markcyeah but how did you select the text in the first place ?01:06
GNU_Stylei mean ctrl-alt is really ctrl-shift01:06
GNU_Styleby highliting with the mouse01:06
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markcheh, I'm confused, I just use the mouse to swipe whatever text I want to copy and paste it with the middle mouse button, never done it any other way01:07
iegarywell 'insert' is <esc>2~, so maybe your keyboard settings are causing an extra 'insert' keypress to be seen.01:08
GNU_Stylei used the numpas to insert01:09
markcI just tried, swip -> ctl-c, then alt-shift-insert into console and it worked with no 2~ appended01:09
GNU_Styletheres no insert in my keyboard other than the numpad 001:09
GNU_Stylemaybe its because of my keyboard, try using the numpad 0 as insert with numlock on01:09
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markcGNU_Style> yeah, I get strange stuff when I use num-0 with various alt-shift-ctl keys01:10
GNU_Styleic.. thats the one causing the problem01:11
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markc GNU_Style> but... if you use the mouse to swipe-copy some text, in any application, why not just use middle (or RMB) mouse button to paste while your hand is still on the mouse ?01:11
GNU_Stylethats a good idea.. thanks...01:12
GNU_Stylemy firefox seems to use a different cursor than KDE, why?01:13
markcGNU_Style> does that work  for you ? (do you have a 3 button mouse?)01:13
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markcGNU_Style> firefox uses the GTK gui libs (the same as gnome)01:14
GNU_Stylebut GTK to QT engine is installed01:14
martit still has it's own themes.01:15
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GNU_Stylehow do I change that in kubuntu?01:15
martcheck Tools->themes01:15
martGet more themes.01:15
markcI just had a look at firefox here and I can't see any difference with either the normal pointer or the text cursor when something is highlighted01:15
GNU_Stylethemes ifor KDE?01:16
GNU_Stylewhere the control panel in kubuntu 5.10?01:16
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martGNU_Style: no, Tools menu in firefox01:17
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[Nige] helo01:17
KabalKubuntu 5.10 KDE 3.4.301:18
Kabalgot error playing a video file.. restarted the video.. now it says sound system busy..01:18
KabalHow do I restart the sound system?01:18
markcGNU_Style> Kmenu -> System Settings01:18
tijnkillall artsd01:18
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Kabaltijn: thanx :)01:18
KabalHow do I restart it?01:18
GNU_Stylei cant seem to find the kmenu editor even if I installed it in adept01:18
martGNU_Style: right click on the K01:19
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tijnKabal: goes auto @ a sound request01:19
[Nige] does anyone know how to specifiy 2 different backgrounds on different monitors in kubuntu?01:19
Kabaltijn: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:834:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client01:20
tijnwierd mom01:20
KabalVLC media player 0.8.5-svn Janus01:21
KabalALSA lib pcm_direct.c:196:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-9991-1143202178-488752: No such file or directory01:21
tijntype artsd01:21
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Kabaltijn: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave01:21
KabalError while initializing the sound driver:01:21
Kabaldevice: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy)01:21
Kabaldevice is busy.. I know.. it crahed while playing video01:22
tijnmmh, check with ps ax if there is something sound stuff working01:22
Kabalbut I don't want to restart my whole laptop01:22
tijnif so, kill it01:22
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ubotu[rbscrobbler]  a script listening for rhythmbox and sending the info to last.fm. It has to be run as an application by its own. Try running it in a terminal.01:24
Kabaltijn: id 9991 won't be killed01:24
Kabalthat;s xine01:24
tijnkill -901:24
Kabalthus  kill -9 9991 ?01:24
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KabalI see :)01:25
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martpkill is worth knowing about too - takes a process name.  saves you looking it up everytime.01:26
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Kabaltijn: It worked! :)01:28
KabalThanx this goes in my memory :)01:28
flusher_in kcontrol > keyboard shortcuts, i can't use the windows key, is there something to cfg with xbindkeys, xmodmap or something else ?01:29
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tijnokay ;)01:29
Kabalke :)01:29
tijnah dutchie ;)01:29
Kabalidd :D01:30
Kaballots to learn in linux :) but I like it alot :D01:30
tijnits nice :)01:30
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flusher_in other words, i'd like to use the windows (super-L) key to open the K menu or minimize all windows (windows + M), but the super-L key seems not to be "detected" by kubuntu, what must I do please ?01:31
tijnalways used debian, but for my klapplank kubuntu is nice ;)01:31
Kabalsame here :)01:31
bertosis python-soya in ubuntu repositories??01:31
KabalI use a klapplank too :D01:31
Kabalnever heard of klapplank.. but rofl01:32
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bertoscan anybody check it for me plz.. becouse i can't fint it in ftp.belnet.be01:32
weedarI use my computer to play music when we have parties, how can I prevent users from using anything other than amarok (for example)?01:33
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martor just create a user that doesn't start KDE, just kwin and amarok.01:34
rysiek|plweedar: ask them :P01:35
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weedarrysiek|pl, that's not really an option =)01:37
weedarThat's like asking hackers to not abuse your root login01:38
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tijnow you god ?01:40
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puckmanit is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sweet01:40
tijnow ment wha?01:40
puckmanI'm in love01:40
puckmanThe startup is very smart!01:41
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puckmanAnd it comes with scim pre installed01:41
puckmanallthough i have not tested that yet01:42
raphinkpuckman: do you need scim ?01:42
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puckmanI'm trying to learn Japanese01:42
puckmanMy wife is Japanese so Japanese input is handy01:42
puckmanand I had a LOT of trouble trying to get it to work on 5.1001:42
puckmanI gave up in the end, and here it is, preinstalled.01:43
raphinkasian support is one of the major reasons to delay dapper to june01:43
puckmanWow, well, thats worth it then!01:43
raphinkindian and chinese mostly01:43
raphinkmark got aware of how big the market is there01:44
puckmanI only use my Mac for WOW and Japanese input these days.01:44
raphinkIndia and China are rushing in the IT market01:44
puckmanAnd I saw there is a petition for WOW on Linux so who knows :P01:44
raphinkand the indian and chinese ubuntu LoCoTeams are growing fast01:44
raphinkpuckman: do you play wesnoth?01:44
puckmanWhats that?01:45
raphinkWesnoth is the OpenOffice or RPG01:45
raphinka free open-source RPG01:45
puckmanbtw, I will be moving to Japan within 2 years.01:45
puckmanAh, great.01:45
bertoscan anybody check if python-soya package is in ubuntu repositories??plz...:)01:45
raphinkavailable in Ubuntu of course01:45
raphinkthe graphics are not so great01:45
raphinkbut the rules are01:45
raphinkbertos: packages.ubuntu.com01:45
puckmanAh, well, will give it a try01:46
puckman3D or pre rendered?01:46
tijnroot@Blackangel:/home/tijn# apt-cache search python-soya01:46
tijnpython-soya - high level 3D engine for Python01:46
tijnbertos: there ya gp01:46
bertostijn, tnx man01:46
iegarypuckman: I'm trying out scim with uim, works fine for Japanese01:46
iegarypuckman: you do have to run "im-switch -s scim" and then log back in.01:47
puckmangot that weird root problem01:47
puckmanwhere I can run adept01:47
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puckmanAnyone know what to do?01:48
raphinkwhat's the issue puckman?01:48
puckmanI start adept, it asks me for my passworrd and then just closes01:48
raphinkare you up-to-date?01:49
puckmanI had that problem 6 months ago when I first started using kubuntu01:49
puckmanI just installed flight 501:49
raphinkupdate it ;)01:49
raphinksudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:49
puckmanof course, thats what solved it before, thanks.01:50
puckmanah shit, no01:50
puckmanE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:50
raphinkno what?01:50
raphinkwell because adept is open I guess01:50
puckmanbut its not open01:50
raphinkare  you sure it's not open somewhere else?01:50
puckmanwell, not in the gui anyways.01:50
tijnps ax01:51
tijnlook for apt-get or something01:51
puckmanlots of adepts running01:51
puckmanno apt01:52
tijnadept uses apt01:52
tijnyoure not using any?01:52
raphinksudo killall adept01:52
tijnthen grab your gun and kill em all01:52
mornfallraphink: ouch that hurt01:52
raphinkmornfall: hehe01:52
raphinksorry mornfall I didn't mean it against you ;)01:52
tijni so dont get it :)01:53
[Nige] who do I set a different wallpaper for each monitor01:53
raphinktijn: mornfall is adept's dev01:53
[Nige] I know you can do this with kde :)01:53
tijnaaah :)01:53
raphink[Nige] : go the appearance settings01:53
raphinkand there you can do it :)01:53
mornfallraphink: so even more people know who to bug on irc hmm? ;P01:53
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rysiek|pl[Nige] : RightClick on the Desktop01:53
raphinkmornfall: heh, you had to keep quiet on this ;)01:53
rysiek|pl[Nige] : -> Desktop configuration (or smthng similar, i've got a translation)01:54
raphinkit's no secret though, is it?01:54
Raymandapper+kcontrol -> broken display settings manager01:54
Raymanany fixes?01:54
tijniam gonna tell mom!!01:54
[Nige] rysiek|pl, it doesnt seem to be there :S01:54
raphinkah talking of translations, I still have to go hack this .po file in the kde svn for systemsettings01:54
rysiek|pl[Nige] : Breezy/Dapper and kubuntu/Ubuntu?01:54
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raphinkRayman: are you up-to-date?01:54
[Nige] breezy kubunut, i know it worked under ubuntu with kde, I had it working yesterday but i rebuilt the pc today01:55
Raymanraphink: well another dist-upgrade is running atm. But up-to-yesterday, yes01:55
rysiek|pl[Nige] : ok, right-click on your desktop and tell me what do you have in the popup menu01:55
[Nige] i can configure my desktop01:56
raphinkRayman: works here01:56
[Nige] but when i set a picture, its spanned across both monitors and it look horrid, i would like 1 picture per monitor01:56
rysiek|pl[Nige] : whait... you want different wallpapers for different MONITORS or DESKTOPS?01:56
raphink[Nige] : I thought you wanted one pic per desktop, not one per monitor01:56
[Nige] okay, I have 2 monitors, I want each one to display a different picture01:56
rysiek|plaaargh. in that case I haven't got the slightest idea :)01:57
raphinkme neither01:57
Raymanraphink: hmmh. It has never worked for me.. flight 4 and clean install01:57
[Nige] no no, i dont want  multiple desktops :)01:57
[Nige] I can do that01:57
raphinkRayman: flight 4 is not what I call up-to-date01:57
raphinkand it should work01:57
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Raymanraphink: I do that daily :)01:57
raphinkRayman: upgrade or dist-upgrade?01:57
puckmangot fed up with killing so just rebooted01:58
bertoshow can i pass some parameters to kerner in liveCD boot01:58
Raymananother one will be ready soon. Those OpenOffice packages are  bititch to DL01:58
Rayman-typos.. my screen is running on 640x480 and I'm missing the rightmost part of this window :D01:58
bertoswhen i type linux vga=791 installation is started01:58
[Nige] i am pretty sure it has to do with xinerama01:59
bimberibertos: add them to the boot command (the function keys will tell you what options are available)01:59
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ubotuI guess xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome01:59
bertosand when just hit ehner[to liveCD boot]  i see just blank screen [usin laptop] 01:59
visik7kmail doesn't  display correctly accents characters01:59
visik7from Mail and Newsgroup01:59
visik7how can I fix it ?01:59
[Nige] bimberi, those instructions just broke xinerama for me "S02:00
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bimberibertos: i think there's a vga=### option02:00
bimberi[Nige] : sorry to hear that :/02:00
[Nige] bimberi, thats okay :) i got rid of the xinerama tag and its seems to be okay, apart from being able to specify different wallpappers per monitor02:01
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vgethis is more like a openoffice question02:03
vgeif i downloaded a language pack02:03
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vgeit changed language for the menus, i just need it for spelling purpoces02:04
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Phazemanis there any reason that there is no gkrellm skins package for kubuntu available ? the default gkrellm came without skins at all :(02:04
Phazemanand there is nothing comes with apt-cache search gkrellm | grep skin02:05
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Google_Firefox instruction Google Adsense http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download Firefox - http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm02:05
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ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee02:06
weedar"Google_Firefox" spammed the channel from IP-adress
Phazemananyone ?02:07
Phazemanam i invisible or what ? can someone see what i type ?02:07
weedarsure Phazeman02:07
Phazemanweedar: any idea about gkrellm skins ?02:08
Phazemanlooks like something is missing in my sources.list02:08
weedarI don't use gkrellm, but apt-cache search | grep skin doesn't output anything02:08
weedarif that is any comfort to you02:08
Phazemanahh... found it :) i think i miss multivers and it's there02:09
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weedarBut I'm using multiverse and I didn't get any skins for it Phazeman02:09
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Phazemanweedar: i will try looking now...02:09
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Phazemanweedar: as i remember, the default gkrellm package should've come with the skins in it but it dodn't02:10
Phazemanthats what is strange02:10
weedarBut would've assumed that since there could exist hundreds of skins that is an addon you'd have to download sparately02:10
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Phazemanweedar: agreed, but other distro's coming with the default set02:11
DarkAdmiraly is there such an old version of icewm in the repositories?02:11
Phazemanlast time i installed breezy it had the skins in it02:12
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weedarYou must have added some weird repository Phazeman  =02:12
puckmandamn, lot of updates to flight 502:13
puckmanIf I run into the dev guy who stuck skim into the base install I will buy him a beer02:14
Phazemanweedar: there is no theme at all in that multiverse :( and i can't find anything on the web....02:14
martI still can't figure out how to use it02:14
martit doesn't remember my settings02:14
Phazemancan someone  remind me what was that monitor proggy that shows the output on the root window on the background ?02:14
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tijnPhazeman: dunno, but sounds nice02:18
chouetteSomeone gave me a file to identify automatically the hard drives with XP data on Kubuntu yesterday, but i reinstall, and i forget the name...it was something like disk mounter..someone have it pls ?02:18
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Raymanalright. another dist-upgrade done and still can't configure display from KControl02:19
Raymanthe thing is.. it doesn't save the selected monitor AND I can't hit the apply button to, well, apply the resolution change.02:19
Phazemantijn: i'm looking for the name now.. will tell you in a minute02:20
tijnk thnx02:20
chouetteOr at least if someone had a simple way to identify my hard drive on Kubuntu02:22
chouette(they're NTFS)02:22
tijnidentify ? dont know what you mean02:22
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tijnnormally with ide its hda*02:22
tijnso if youre windows partition is on the first partition of the first hdd its hda102:23
tijnto check, you can do fdisk /devhda02:23
Phazemantijn: root-tail02:23
tijnto check, you can do fdisk /dev/hda*02:23
tijnPhazeman: thnx02:23
tijnpress p for partitions en see if your partition is there02:24
Phazemantijn: it's not it.. sec... i will try to find again02:25
tijnor hdb02:25
chouettethere's nothing in fdisk/dev/hda02:25
chouettedisk ok, but no dev02:25
tijnfdisk is a tool02:26
tijntype: fdisk /dev/hda02:26
chouetteok, sorry i misunderstood02:26
chouettein a console ? it doesnt work02:27
chouette"no file or directory of this kind" or somthng02:27
PhazemanFOUND IT !!!!!02:27
Phazemantijn: torsmo02:27
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tijnaaah ok :D02:27
tijnthe program02:28
Tm_Ttorsmo is old and unmaintained, but ok02:28
Tm_Tconky is newer02:28
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Phazemanthanks Tm_T02:29
PhazemanTm_T: do you have any idea why fluxbox is so outdated ?02:29
Phazemanit's 0.9.12 and there is 0.9.15 already when 0.9.14 was running for more then a year02:29
martmaybe the debian packager lost interest?02:30
Phazemanmart :( i can't believe that...02:30
chouetteStill no one to help me find my hard drive please :(  ?02:30
martPhazeman: why not?02:30
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Phazemanmart: coz its VERY popular02:31
martPhazeman: sure, but that doesn't mean the packager is still interested02:31
PhazemanTm_T: how do you start conky ? i've installed it and there is no executable02:31
Phazeman:( i really hope he does...02:32
martPhazeman: it had a non-maintainer upload in January...02:32
Phazemani will try asking in #fluxbox...02:33
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martPhazeman: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/f/fluxbox/fluxbox_0.9.14-1.1/changelog02:33
martPhazeman: might be easiest to grab the source from debian and rebuild if you want an update02:33
Phazemanmart: i want the latest... the 0.9.1502:33
tijnchouette: what did you type?02:33
Phazemanmart: yeah.. i will try02:34
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Phazemanmart: 15:33 < fbot> ubuntu packages can be found at: http://logicvortex.net/debian/fluxbox/02:34
martstill .14 :(02:34
reonIs there a equivalent for Downloader for X with a KDE frontend ???02:34
mart(he said, not knowing what downloader for x was)02:35
Phazemanmart: yeah ":(02:35
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reonmart: dont like kget. I would like Downloader for X but with a KDE frontend and I dunno whether anybody has done it02:35
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PhazemanTm_T: any idea about conky ?02:36
martreon: kinda hard to suggest something if you don't say what's wrong with kget...02:36
Phazemannm.. fount it02:36
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reonmart: one of those personal preference things. i cant remember whats wrong with kget but I did not like it when i tried it02:37
martreon: I didn't like it the first time, but I ended up going back and using it after a while :)02:37
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reonmart, I'll have a look again.02:39
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Tm_TPhazeman: ?02:43
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Tm_TPhazeman: there's "xonky"02:44
Tm_TPhazeman: "conky" I mean02:44
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puckmanAnyone here installed flight 5?02:57
puckmanAdept wont launch.02:58
puckmanAsks for my password and then nothing.02:58
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jtshawpuckman: check to see if there is an adept process running already03:00
mornfallpuckman: willing to debug? :)03:00
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puckmanmornfall: sure, tell me what to do :P03:01
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mornfallpuckman: can you apt-get source adept? :)03:01
mrimccccccccccommeeeeeeeeeent onnnnnnnnnn isttttttttttalllllllllll un serverrrrrrrrrr teamspppppppppeak surrrrrrrrr liiiiiiiiiinux03:01
puckmanjust a warning, linix newbie03:01
admrl_schoolmornfall i agree its very important to learn apt-get03:01
mornfallapt-get source adept <-- command03:02
admrl_schoolpuckman: i learned this in a day when someone told me so here we go hopefully i will help you03:02
mornfallit will download and unpack adept source package03:02
admrl_schoolto install a package its03:02
admrl_schoolsudo apt-get install *package*03:02
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admrl_schoolto search for a package its03:02
admrl_schoolsudo apt-cache search *package*03:02
puckmanOh I know that bit03:02
admrl_schoolthats almost all you need to know03:02
admrl_schooland sudo apt-get update03:03
puckmanI thought you where gonna ask me to look at the source03:03
admrl_schoolto update yoru package list03:03
mornfalloh lord03:03
puckmanI have done an update and upgrade03:03
admrl_schoolthen your good03:03
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puckmanwell no03:03
mornfallcan someone take admrl_school and put it somewhere out of my way? thanks03:03
mornfallpuckman: so listen to me now03:03
puckmanadept wont start in the gui03:04
mornfallpuckman: and ignore admrl_school for a bit :)03:04
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mornfallpuckman: can you use debuild?03:04
mornfallpuckman: do you have gdb?03:04
puckmanok, just so you know03:04
puckmanclean HD03:04
puckmanclean install of flight 503:04
puckmanwhich has been updated and upgraded via apt 10 min ogo03:05
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Raymanhello once again03:11
RaymanI can actually change the resolution with an app called 'gvidm'03:11
Raymanbut that only changes 'rendered' resolution, not the actual desktop resolution/size.. thus 1600x1200->1280x1024 and I can scroll the screen around with my mouse.03:12
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ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:53
ubotu[apache]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP03:54
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mhterreshi (oi) :-)03:56
jdpjon Brazil03:56
mhterresme too03:56
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jdpjalguem de sao paulo03:57
mhterresenglish please :-)03:57
mhterresi'm from RS03:57
dipnlikjdpj , mhterres:  /join #ubuntu-br03:57
jdpjthank you03:58
mhterreswe need #kubuntu-br too03:58
dipnlikwe can speak portuguese there03:58
dipnlikmhterres: there's kubuntu discussion there too03:58
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FarSe3rHello, my sound is all weird. Its low and cracked. I have no idea what to do.....03:59
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GNU_Stylei want to compile my kernel but I cant find the source with smp support.. ?04:03
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martGNU_Style: there is only one source per version04:10
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Al-Dajait's possible  getting upgrades from some programs adding the source to source list, or something?04:12
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GNU_Styleis there a known bug in kubuntu dapper flight 4?04:16
visik7probably more than 104:16
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visik7it's a devel release04:16
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tristanmikeAl-Daja, you don't upgrade programs "per se" unless you compile from source, or install by some other method. You do get all security updates that apply to the Ubuntu software04:16
tristanmikeGNU_Style, yeah, they are on flight 5 now04:16
GNU_Stylei cant seem to install flight 404:17
GNU_Styleok so.. if I do something wrong in compiling my kernel can I revert back to the previous?04:17
visik7there is flight 5 now04:18
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_chouetteCan someone help me to mount my hard drives ? i tried with the tool disk and filesystems but it didnt work..04:19
Al-Dajatristanmike, hmm, for example amule i'm in 2.0.3 but already exist 2.1.1 i only can get it if i install directly from the webpage and so on04:20
tristanmikevisik7, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/04:20
visik7not for me04:20
GNU_Stylewat does 'CC=gcc-3.4' really mean and 'export CC'?04:21
tristanmikeGNU_Style, yes, pretty much04:21
GNU_Styleic CC a command in bash?04:22
GNU_Stylewhat about export?04:22
tristanmikeyes, without the quotes04:22
tristanmikethere should be more to "export CC" than you have there if I recall correctly04:22
tristanmikethat will change the default compiler to gcc3.4 rather than gcc4.x04:23
tristanmikeAl-Daja, if 2.0.3 is what's in the repos, that wont change untill the release after whatever release contains 2.0.3. So yes, you would have to go to the site to install a newer version. The only problem with that, is sometimes the newer versions require newer libs, which you must install and the newer libs may require newer libs which you must install, and those newer libs...well you get the point04:23
_chouetteyesterday here someone send me a file, it was called somthng like "disk mounter" in here there was a command like bash i dont know what, and it mounted automatically all my Windows hard drives04:23
_chouettedoes someone konw this thing ?04:23
Al-Dajatristanmike,  lol, now i get, a cycle of new libraries04:24
tristanmikenow that's not to say you shouldn't try, that's worse case scenerio04:24
Al-Dajathat's why some programs in adept are older than the ones that already exist04:25
tristanmikeI have newer version of some apps, but it can take some work to get going because of the slippery slope aspect04:25
Al-Dajai real need sometime to study this thing, and who know's make some improvements04:26
Al-Dajathx tristanmike04:27
ubotudiskmounter is, like, totally, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter04:27
tristanmikethat's why Linux is Fantastic, make the changes, enjoy the changes, live the changes. :)04:28
_chouettecan someone help me with mounting the HD please ? I'm just going crazy >_<04:30
_chouetteEven diskmounter doesnt work04:30
tijnis kubuntu linux? screw you guys, iam outta her ;)04:30
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visik7anyone have patched a vanilla 2.6.16 with suspend 2 ?04:31
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tristanmikechouette, how doesn't it work, what's not happening, I guess your hd isn't getting mounted, by why ?04:33
_mindspinchouette you've been here yesterday with another nick?04:33
chouetteYes...sorry for the flood btw, i didnt think about  that if taht's what you're about to say04:34
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_mindspinIt's ok so far04:34
_mindspinuse pastebin when you want to paste04:35
chouetteyes i understood this now :)04:35
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_mindspinI still think that yore hd is mounted but you look at the wrong place04:35
chouetteSo where should i look ?04:36
chouette./media, i suppose ?04:36
chouettebut nothing in here...04:36
tristanmike  /media/drive   I would think04:36
dash-anyone else using drapper04:36
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tristanmikechouette, it wouldn't have the "." in it, that makes it hidden04:37
dash-my login screen is distorted with kde. was fine on breezy04:37
attax|thanadash: upgrading right now :)04:37
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chouetteit says /media/drive doesnt exists04:37
dash-i alreayd did the upgrades04:37
chouette(yes the "." is on purpose for here only)04:37
tristanmikenot "drive" litterally, it would have a name04:37
dash-my screen is distorted now when i login i have to ctrl alt f1 and then ctrl alt f7 for a screen refresh04:37
dash-so i cna see the login screen04:37
tristanmikeso cd /media  then  ls   gives you nothing ?04:37
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chouetteit says no file in here04:38
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tristanmikels gives you /media/sda5  ?04:38
_mindspinwhat do you get when you do a sudo cat/etc/fstab at commandline04:38
_mindspinscsi disk or usb?04:39
chouettesata that's all i know04:39
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:39
chouettewell internal too04:39
_mindspinwhat do you get when you do a sudo cat /etc/fstab04:39
_martinHi. I'm getting "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" when I try to add a deb server (to use for seveas / freenx). Not found an answer yet on Google -- please can anyone help?04:39
tristanmikechouette, does "ls" give you when you are in /media  ?04:39
_martinI get this error on apt-get update04:40
tristanmike_martin, where you got the line for your sources list, should also have a command to log the public key, where did you get it ?04:40
rysiek|plguys, anybody can recommend a command-line tool for decoding *.ape (MonkeyAudio) files to wavs? TIA :)04:40
dash-anyone know how to fix the login screen04:40
dash-refresh problem with drapper04:40
chouettetristan, where do i type "ls" ?04:41
_martintristanmike: thanks -- you're right, on http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ there are auth instructions I had not read. Ta.04:41
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tristanmikechouette, in a terminal, do a "cd /media"  then "ls"04:42
tristanmikechouette, but by the looks of your fstab file, you for sure don't have it mounted04:42
tristanmikewhat happens when you run the script from diskmounter ?04:43
chouettedamn...i'll try again with the tool04:43
chouettei think diskmounter just didnt worked anyway04:43
tristanmikechouette, load the page and select "save as" and save as is to your desktop ?04:43
chouettei'll try with the graphical tool04:43
ubotuI heard diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter04:44
tristanmikedon't change the name or anything, just save to desktop04:44
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chouetteok it's saved04:44
chouettesame name04:44
tristanmikedon't change anything, just hit save04:44
tristanmikedon't add an extention like .txt just Save Page As....then Save04:45
tristanmiketo your destop04:45
chouetteAnd when it's saved ?04:46
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tristanmikeonce it's saved to your desktop, open a terminal and type:  "cd ~/Desktop"  with out the quotes04:46
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fyrmedichow do I install a .deb package that I downloaded?04:46
tristanmikesudo dpkg -i filename.deb04:47
rysiek|pldpkg -i <your.file>.deb04:47
tristanmikecheck synaptic first04:47
mertmrturk varmi aranizda04:47
tristanmikechouette,  then "sudo bash diskmounter"  again, without the quotes....put in your password and you should be good to go04:47
chouettesudo dpkg -i filename.deb >> this for me too ?04:48
fyrmedicis there a way to check that it was successful?04:48
chouetteand if so, i keep "filename" of "diskmounter" ?04:48
tristanmikechouette, no, that dpkg line is not for you04:48
tristanmikechouette, where are you at? have you changed directories to your Desktop ?04:49
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tristanmikefyrmedic, any errors? no, it was successful04:49
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_martintristanmike: Thanks for the pointer - sorted. bfn.04:49
tristanmikefyrmedic, you should be able to see the package in Synaptic/Adept04:50
tristanmike_martin, good to hear, np04:50
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chouetteok it's done, i'll check04:50
tristanmikechouette, did you get output this time? did it look like it was doing something ?04:50
chouetteYES. it worked04:51
Drakesondoes anyone have Wacom stuff here (and it's hopefully working)04:51
chouetteyes it did :) Thanx :D04:51
chouetteWhat was the problem, just so i know for later installation ?04:51
tristanmikemy guess is you didn't change into the directory that had that file when you did it last time, very easy mistake to make04:51
chouette(cuz i typed what u said but without understandinf it)04:52
tristanmikeok, can I pm you for a sec?04:52
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chouetteno pron04:52
tijnprob ;)04:53
ubotuI heard thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042704:55
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PupenoIs http://cgi.ebay.es/US-ROBOTICS-COURIER-I-MODEM-ISDN-V-34_W0QQitemZ6861745236QQcategoryZ8060QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem a full modem that would work with kubuntu without the nightmare that a soft-modem is ?04:58
Pupenoit looks like a courier us-robotic, but there it says ISDN.04:58
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prowerHello everyone :> I'm trying to adjust the bass and treble on my Soundblaster Live, but changing them in the mixer seems to have no effect...is there something else that has to be changed first?05:03
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JasonFIs there a good howto on the net on how to setup dual monitors using 2 cards (i.e. it's not an nvidia twinview deal)05:11
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jukehow i can get drivers to my geforce 2 gts/pro display card?? :P05:21
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analfabetahow can i configure my proxy server in kopete?05:23
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dwarnerIs linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp  2.6.10-34.7 still being support?  I see updates for 10-6, but not 10-505:23
DeeJay1hmm, it seems that I can live with Kubuntu for a while, disabling ACPI helped with the lost interrupts at least until I know how to make other packages than .rpms :)05:25
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tijncya all05:25
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chouetteSomeone knows what the "universe and multiverse repository" is ?05:29
chouettehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-4e9645ccc8498974daa866ddb5afb1dcb6b3d0c6 (here)05:29
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_mindspinubotu tell chouette about universe05:32
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holy_foolgotta prob, i installed automatiks and now my fonts in konqueror are invisible...05:40
chouetteJust to be sure : all the repositories i enable will be used when i update ?05:41
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lweI have set up my wireless connection with WPA2 and it works, but everytime I reboot I need too "ifdown" ""ifup" the device. I use ifplugd and wpa_supplicant. Anybody has an elegant solution ?05:45
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epinephrineI read a walkthrough that made it just work on boot, but I went and formatted without bookmarking it :|05:46
GNU_Stylei compiled a custom kernel and installed it, is it safe to delete the /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12 directory? and the linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 file?05:46
ninHerhi all05:46
epinephrinehere it is. http://www.vollink.com/gary/deb_wifi.html05:47
lweThat's the howto I followed...05:47
epinephrinewell, it worked for me :p05:47
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epinephrinemy dongle is fried now, waiting on a new one, can't try it again yet :|05:48
epinephrine("dispatched" according to amazon, can't complain, they send it for free)05:48
lweThank you epinephrine05:49
epinephrineI seem to remember not following it exactly because some things just seemed rediculous05:50
GNU_Stylei compiled a custom kernel and installed it, is it safe to delete the /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12 directory? and the linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 file?05:50
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enigmistahi guys05:55
GNU_Styleic, after compiling my kernel as .deb, how do I build a kernel header?05:55
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PoorYoricI'm having problems with SMP05:56
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Yoricbetter like this05:56
enigmistaanyone uses kubuntu + Creative Zen touch?05:56
YoricWell, booting with SMP support doesn't seem to work on my Intel Dual Core Celero.05:57
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enigmistanoone uses gnomad2?05:59
martdoesn't amarok support it?06:00
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enigmistamart: there is gnomad that support it, but it cannot find my device.06:01
martenigmista: that wasn't really what I asked...06:01
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ovirrede?join #debian-pr06:02
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enigmistamart: lsusb give me Bus 005 Device 004: ID 041e:4131 Creative Technology, Ltd06:03
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martenigmista: ok, but doesn't amarok support it?06:03
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GNU_Styleafter compiling my kernel as .deb, how do I build a kernel header?06:09
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jindIsn't the kernelfiles included?06:11
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usuarioalguno me lee?06:19
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usuarioes que no se si va bien esto06:19
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schorem@usuario i do not understand...06:20
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schoremplease english06:21
usuarionot speak englisg i'm spanish06:21
holy_foolI want to change Disk And filesystem options i enterdie admin pass the pc is working but i dont gain the acces06:21
holy_foolenter the06:22
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:22
martoh, he's gone06:22
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holy_foolcould someone help me06:23
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noteventimeI'll try06:26
holy_foolis it because of the digitil wallet06:27
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noteventimeholy_fool: What version?06:27
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noteventimeOk, have you tried in KControl?06:28
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holy_foolsystem settings...06:28
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noteventimeKcontrol and system settings are not the same, system settings is buggy in breezy06:28
holy_foolwhat is Kcontrol?06:28
noteventimetry entering kcontrol in run06:28
PoorYoricok, things are looking up, I have finally managed to set the correct resolution06:29
PoorYoricnext step is to get SMP to work06:29
PoorYoricAny hint on this ?06:29
PoorYoricknowing that the -smp kernel fails to boot06:29
holy_foolkcontrol started06:29
noteventimeOk, try editing in kcontrol instead06:30
noteventimePoorYoric, Symmetric Multiprocessing?06:30
noteventimeOr the protocol?06:31
PoorYoricnoteventime: indeed06:31
holy_foolk thx06:31
noteventimeDoes it work?06:31
PoorYoricnoteventime: multiprocessing, that is.06:31
noteventimePoorYoric, Isn't it enough to install the SMP kernel?06:31
oxezIs koffice 1.4.95 the beta version of 1.5?06:33
jtshawoxez: that would be consistant with KDEs version scheme06:33
PoorYoricnoteventime: 2.6.12-9-686-smp06:33
oxezalright thanks06:33
oxezI wasn't sure :o06:33
noteventimePoorYoric, Are you running 64bit?06:34
noteventimeThen try that one06:34
holy_foolQLayout "unnamed" added to QVBox "m_body", which already has a layout06:34
PoorYoricnoteventime: I am using a Dual Core Centrino, so no 64 bits06:34
noteventimeholy_fool, Have you updated your system recently?06:35
holy_foolwhich way06:35
noteventimesudo apt-get update06:35
noteventimesudo apt-get upgrade06:35
noteventimeOr through one of the frontends06:35
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noteventimeadept, synaptic, aptitude or kpackage06:36
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holy_foolive installed automatiks06:36
ubotuautomatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.06:36
noteventime;), You should better try EasyUbuntu06:37
noteventimeAnyway, you still need to update your system06:37
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PoorYoricnoteventime: as it turns out, when I boot with the -smp kernel, the bootup process doesn't survive pcmcia checking06:39
martseems not06:39
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noteventimePoorYoric, are you using pcmcia?06:40
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime06:40
holy_foolhow can i "deinstall" automatiks?06:40
noteventimeYou can06:40
noteventimeYou can't06:40
PoorYoricnoteventime: I'm actually not.06:40
PoorYoricBut it's a laptop, that's going to happen eventually.06:40
noteventimeTry removing it, dunno how though06:40
noteventimeholy_fool: Don't worry06:41
noteventimeShoudn't cause any major trouble...06:41
noteventimePoorYoric, Hmm....06:41
PoorYoricI actually just noticed a worrying error message in the bootup process.06:41
holy_fooli just started with linux thats why i dont know "anything06:41
PoorYoricUnable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual06:41
PoorYoric address 0000000006:41
noteventimeholy_fool: Do you knwo how to use adept?06:41
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holy_foolmore ore less06:42
noteventimePoorYoric, indeed06:42
noteventimeholy_fool: So you know how to update, right?06:42
noteventimeTry updating, that should fix it06:43
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PoorYoricwell, I'll try without pcmcia06:44
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noteventimePoorYoric, I doubt it will help though06:45
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PaloDeQuesoHow does one start a vnc server on the same display server as the one that I'm using. Like when I log in through vnc I want to see the same session I see when I'm at the box?06:54
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PupenoAny ideas why I would get the error "Could not connect to host mail.pupeno.com.06:57
PupenoAny ideas why I would get the error "Could not connect to host mail.pupeno.com." when trying to send an email with kmail ? I've download emails successfully from the same place and my wife sent mails succesfully to the same place (with her account) ?06:57
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PupenoI can event telnet to the host on port 25.07:00
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wijnAny idead on how to boot kubuntu with kde instead of only booting the command line interface?07:06
_chouettesomeone know how to change the whole style ? windows, bar etc ?07:07
holy_foolsystem setting07:08
holy_foolshould be.07:08
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_chouetteok, but more, how to get other styles than the one already here ?07:10
Blippewijn, sounds like somethng is real screwy with your install07:10
wijnhmm right07:10
wijnlets do it over then07:10
wijnduring the install after the reboot it mentioned that some packets didn't fully install07:11
wijnis it meant to put the cd in again after the reboot ?07:11
ShanghaiTeejchouette, open up adept or synaptic and search "kde theme"07:11
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ShanghaiTeejthere are some in the repositories, also07:11
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_chouettegot a good repositorie for KDE themes ? or a good website ?07:12
ShanghaiTeejyou can go to www.kde-look.org as well07:12
mhterresit's a great site07:12
mhterresthe best I know07:12
mhterresoops, this is the only one I know :-)07:12
ShanghaiTeejhow long have you been using kubuntu chouette?07:12
_chouettesince yesterday07:13
mhterresanybody knows another one ?07:13
ShanghaiTeejwell, you probably need to open up more repositories07:13
_chouettethat's why my questions are so...noob :)07:13
ShanghaiTeejopen up the terminal07:13
ShanghaiTeejtype sudo kate/etc/apt/sources.list07:13
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_chouetteit says command not found :/07:14
wijnhow much space does kubuntu usually take on hdd on fresh installation?07:14
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mhterressudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list ???07:14
wijnright, that'll be my prob07:14
mhterresoops, sudo kate(space)/etc/apt/sources.list07:15
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ShanghaiTeejit will ask for a password, then delete the "#" off of the lines that start with "deb..."07:15
ShanghaiTeejsave the file and go back to your terminal and type in:  sudo apt-get update07:15
ShanghaiTeejthen look for "kde theme" in adept07:15
_chouettestill says error, i'll try adept yes07:15
ShanghaiTeejcan you copy/paste your screen on here?07:15
ShanghaiTeejtry sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:16
_chouettekate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.07:16
_chouettek sudo nano seems to work07:17
_chouettewhat should i do after that ?07:17
wijnwhat is the most prefered bootloader here? Grub or Lilo?07:18
epinephrinegrub is definetly superior to lilo.07:18
epinephrinebut if it boots the OS, who cares? :)07:18
wijnindeed, but i want to chose the one of which i can change the default OS to boot07:19
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ShanghaiTeejdelete "#" before lines that begin with "deb..."07:19
ShanghaiTeejDeleting these "#", will enable adept to connect to internet servers to download a wider array of updates and programs07:20
_chouetteI only delete the #, i dont move the deb line ?07:22
mcscruffjust the #07:23
mcscruffso the line starts with deb07:23
wijnright lets see, is there any possibility to install kubuntu spread over 2 discs?07:23
wijn*2 hdd's07:23
mcscruffi think so07:23
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mcscruffi cant see it being different thenusing more partitions07:24
_chouetteand then, i should save or somtehing ?07:24
ShanghaiTeeji think you press control-x07:24
_chouetteCtrl X is quit07:24
mcscrufffor file-save07:24
ShanghaiTeejit will ask you to save anyway before you quit07:24
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ShanghaiTeejthen when you are in terminal again, type: sudo apt-get update07:25
ShanghaiTeejand that will update the newly added repositories....then run adept and you have a whole mess more programs to choose from07:25
_chouetteRight :)07:25
mcscruff[18:25]  <ShanghaiTeej> then when you are in terminal again, type: sudo apt-get update <<or open adept and click fetch updates07:25
_chouettethanx :)...btw, what does Break means, when i try to install somthg from Adept ? The install doesnt seem to work07:27
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ShanghaiTeejif you are having troubles with adept07:27
ShanghaiTeeji would try synaptic07:27
ShanghaiTeejdoes the same thing, but its a different and more stable program07:27
ShanghaiTeejtype: sudo apt-get synaptic07:28
ShanghaiTeejinto the terminal07:28
wijnholy crap how long is the resizing of partitions going to take07:28
mcscruffdepends on hardware07:29
mcscruffdid u all know that im batman07:29
wijn10 minutes, still 0% :P07:29
mcscruffwhat are u using to resize partitions?07:30
wijnthe install program07:30
mcscruffi have never used it07:30
mcscruffalways used full disk07:31
wijnoh damned why didn't i just use partition magic07:31
wijnwell my disc is only 2 gb07:31
wijnand the other one is 4.307:31
mcscruffshouldnt take too long then07:31
wijnso i'll try to install kubuntu spread over two discs :P07:31
mcscruffhave one for /root and one for /home ?07:31
wijnyeah something like that if it's possible07:31
mcscruffim sure it is07:32
wijnwell lets see then, but first this re-partitioning07:32
wijni'm afraid if i'm going to abort it now, i'll screw up the entire disc07:32
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wawa_Hi guys, I am getting this error when I am trying to start amsn; "Unable to obtain a socket from localhost"...any ideas?07:33
mcscruffwhat version of amsn?07:34
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wawa_mcscruff: 1.9507:34
mcscruff0.95 :P07:34
wawa_oh yeah :)07:34
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mcscrufftbh i dont know, i dont have a problem ( but i also use a daily cvs build)07:35
wawa_mcscruff: It was working fine before, just these two days07:35
mcscruffdoes kopete still connect?07:36
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wawa_mcscruff: Yeah it does07:36
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_chouetteSpeaking of Kopete, is there a way to change the avatar image size ?07:36
mcscruffwawa_: all i can sugest is ask in #amsn07:36
wawa_mcscruff: Ok, thanks07:36
tsdgeosamsn 0.94 works here07:37
mcscruff0.96b working here :)07:37
wawa_mcscruff: I will try to downgrade and see07:37
wijnoef still 0%, it's gonna be a long night for this computer07:37
mcscruffsomething must have gone wrong i didnt think re-sizing took that long07:38
mcscruffdont take my word tho07:38
wijnwell it warned that it can take long time07:38
mcscruffim on dapper atm and installing breezy in a vm :O07:38
wijnSimon says: let's f*ck up the entire disc07:40
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_chouettebtw i was wondering (dont" laugh) if there's a need for antivirus and antispyware on Linux ?07:41
vickssome sort of acceibilty-function has been turned on in my dapper. when i press a control-key a lot of yellow labels turn up next to buttons and menus. can't find out where to turn it off. anyone knows anything about this?07:41
_chouetteSome said no, but i mean, is there really no spyware of other things affecting it ?07:41
vitriolyes, thats correct07:41
mcscruff_chouette: there is av's for it but mostly for detecting windows ones07:42
_chouetteWeird...why's that, because XP is the only system attacked cause its popularity ?07:42
vitriolyou said it yourself :)07:43
Blippe_chouette, no, that is because *nix is based on security from ground up, and windows is not!07:43
wijnor is it because all those people with 0 knowledge of computers use windows xp? :D07:43
mcscruff_chouette: well its becuase u need a password to delete most important files in *nix and windows is like an old jacket.. full of holes07:43
vitriolthanks to all of you seeding the torrent07:43
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wijnSimon says: Let's try partition magic07:44
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Blippe_chouette, windows for example had all those ports listening with deamons ready to do about anything 'cause they weren't meant to be connected to anything like the internet07:44
_chouetteHm ok...and i suppose since Linux distributions are update often, thats why they're more solid too ?07:45
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Blippewindows "were" built to be used by one user, linux by many, windows to be (if all) connected to a small trusted network, *nix to internet, so they had a whole different view on securitymeasures07:46
holy_foolquestion. how du i update the libglib2.0-007:46
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vitriol_chouette, if you don't have a hardware firewall (router) or are not using something like iptables, you are still at risk07:46
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vitriolbut spyware and virii will not be a problem07:46
Blippe_chouette, vitriol is wrong07:46
PupenoDoes anybody know what OS do IBM zSeries run ?07:46
_chouettevitriol o_O ?07:46
Blippeabout the firewall, not virii07:46
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wijnyo folks, thanks for your support, im gonna have a beer now and i'll try partition magic tomorrow07:47
patty211hi all07:47
_chouetteSo i need a firewall anyway...a good one to advice ?07:47
mcscruffholy_fool: is there a newer one then libglib2.0-0 ??07:47
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vitriol_chouette, you mean to say you don't have your computer hooked up to a router?07:47
Blippeyou don't need to configure the firewall ubuntu have installed on your system (iptables) because you have nothing listening on your system. if you install a service which does, you have to set it up...07:48
ChoueTTeNo router07:48
holy_foollibglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.5)07:48
patty211how do i install my nvida drivers07:48
holy_foolhave 2.8.307:48
vitriolChoueTTe, in that case it'd be a good idea to install iptables07:48
vitriolChoueTTe, also, try using rkhunter07:48
Blippeiptables are always installed, with ubuntu!07:49
vitriolit should be available through an ubuntu repo07:49
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patty211how do i install my nvida drivers07:49
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Blippevitriol, stop spreading stupidity!07:49
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patty211hi just installed ubuntu dapper drake but no bittorrent, how do i get it07:51
Blippeyou   don't    f....ing    need    a     firewall    if    nothing    is    listening      on     your     system!07:51
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Blippepatty, search for ktorrent, qtorrent or something of the like in adept!07:51
patty211ok cheers07:52
naliothChoueTTe: with a default kubuntu install, you don't need a firewall07:53
tonyyarusso(I know this is usually regarded as some kind of heresy, but:)  I'm talking and writing about Linux with a target audience of non-technical home Windows users.  One of the common responses is along the lines of "I'm used to Windows."  I figure it's safe to read this as "I want things to look like Windows".  Therefore, I am wondering if someone can provide recommendations for DEs, themes, backgrounds, etc. (links and/or screenshots 07:53
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holy_foolfido bite... ^07:54
simianis open office gtk2?07:55
holy_foolis there a possibility to update libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.3-0ubuntu1) to libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.5)?07:55
holy_foolmy gstreamer0.8-mad is complaining abaout it07:56
patty211wat the command to see my ntfs partions07:57
frank23holy_fool: you can do it with libglib from debian unstable. I did it to install the latest mono (also from debian untstable). If you only use breezy repos however, you shouldn need to do that07:57
holy_foolkcontrol in pannel07:57
holy_fooldebian aunstable?07:58
patty211wat the command to see my ntfs partions07:58
holy_foolgot it thx07:58
frank23holy_fool: you use a debian "unstable" repository. It not that unstable though ;)07:58
holy_fooltype kcontrol in console07:59
holy_foolin there the last point07:59
holy_foolsystem options...08:00
patty211any links to install nvidia drivers08:00
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vitriolBlippe, when you have a MS in information systems, then you can call me stupid08:00
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:00
patty211and wat about mp308:00
vitriolyou should be a little more polite at any rate08:01
holy_foolgstreamer0.8 mp308:01
holy_foolgstreamer0.8-mad        mp308:01
frank23!tell patty211 about restricted08:01
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Blippevitriol, would a MS in physics do?08:04
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Riddell** breezy testers for KDE 3.5.2 needed  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352/ breezy main08:05
frank23Blippe: for what?08:05
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tonyyarussoBlippe: Does for me.  (/me is majoring in that.)08:06
mcscruffRiddell: is it gettin built on dapper too?08:06
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frank23tonyyarusso: Blippe: I was in MSc Physics for over 2 years and left without finishing. being good at something is not the same as liking it!08:07
tonyyarussofrank23: Very true.08:07
Riddellmcscruff: already is, please do test that too08:08
frank23tonyyarusso: I even got a Phd scholarship and refused it ;)08:08
Blippeat any rate, even if somebody is Einstein himself doesn't make everything that persons say less false.08:08
tonyyarussofrank23: What'd you end up doing instead?08:09
frank23Blippe: about not needing a firewall if no ports are open? that's true08:09
patty211is there a command to mount ntfs partions08:09
frank23tonyyarusso: not sure yet. I'm looking for a job in something IT related08:10
holy_foolhow do i change amork as standard player to kaffeine player...08:10
tonyyarussofrank23: Ah.  (Let me know if you can suggest a summer job in that field...)08:11
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holy_foolyou can do it all under system settings08:11
Blippeholy_fool, open konqueror, settings - configure konwueror, file associations...08:12
patty211is there a command to mount ntfs partions08:12
holy_foolk thx08:12
Blippeholy_fool, and there you have to change it for every type of file you want to change it for08:12
patty211why cant i see my ntfs partitions08:13
mcscruffpatty211: sudo mount /dev/<ntfs partition> /<mount to here>08:13
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patty211is there a code to do it for me as i dont know the names08:14
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Blippeisn't there a nice interface for it in system-settings?08:15
patty211wat disks08:15
heinkel_111which kind of repositories carry the w32codecs package?08:15
heinkel_111is that in the universe or multiverse?08:16
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Blippeheinkel_111, neither...08:17
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:17
heinkel_111thx Blippe08:18
patty211why cant i play my .wma files08:21
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patty211why cant i play my .wma files08:23
brunftare NFS experts present?08:25
brunfti am permanently mounting a NFS export but it takes forever :(08:25
brunftThe export contains 122 gigs on the server08:26
attax|thanaCan someone tell me whether my shortcuts, configs, etc will survive an update from breezy to dapper?08:26
holy_foolwhat do i need to play ogg?08:28
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holy_foolsry ogm08:28
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catahi everybody08:35
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holy_fooli have a package wich need another package which needs the previos package....08:48
holy_foolcould someone help me08:50
holy_foollibpango1.0-0_1.10.4-1_i386.deb needs libpango1.0-common_1.10.4-1_i386.deb08:51
trappistsudo dpkg -i libpango1.0-0_1.10.4-1_i386.deb libpango1.0-common_1.10.4-1_i386.deb08:51
holy_foolill try it thx08:51
trappistbut why are you installing libpango without using apt-get?08:51
holy_foolgstreamer0.8-misc_0.8.12-1_i386.deb needs it08:52
holy_foolit worked thx08:53
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tolonugahi. can anyone tell me where I can find the scripts and files that are used to create the kubuntu nightly live cd images?08:55
trappistoh what a tangled web we weave08:57
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trappistholy_fool: and why are you installing *that* without apt-get?08:57
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holy_fooli want to play ogm08:57
trappistapt-get is the preferred method of installing software on ubuntu08:57
trappistgstreamer and its plugins and libpango are all available from the repos (if you have the right repos set up) via apt-get08:58
holy_fooli insatll a packeage look what it needs and so on08:58
trappistthat's not really the way to go08:58
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trappistapt-get will resolve dependencies for you and help make sure you don't end up with a package for another distro/version that will screw up your system08:59
holy_foolbut it works .P08:59
simianis there a way to configure apache through your browser08:59
trappistsimian: not a good way08:59
holy_fooland how do i set it up08:59
trappistadd universe and multiverse repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update09:00
simiantrappist: ok but where is a good place to get started (apache) for a complete beginner09:00
holy_fool... ok and in nooblanguage09:00
trappistlemme try the bot...09:01
trappist!tell holy_fool about repos09:01
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MacAnthonytrappist: does synaptic use apt-get as a backend?09:01
simianlol poor trappist is getting flooded with questions09:02
MacAnthonysorry - his answer made me think of the question :)09:02
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trappistholy_fool: then you can just say sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-misc09:02
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holy_foolnicht auf die Liste http://de.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) der Quellpakete zugreifen. - stat (2 Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden)09:18
holy_foolW: Kann nicht auf die Liste http://de.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-b09:18
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holy_foolhm i, trying to remove libgstreamer-gconf0.8-0_0.8.12-1_i386.deb09:19
holy_foolbut i get the failure 127...09:19
trappistsudo apt-get remove libgstreamer-gconf0.809:21
holy_foolcouldnt find package09:22
holy_foolist insatlled but not configured....09:23
trappistsudo apt-get -f install09:23
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trappistor sudo dpkg-configure -a09:23
holy_foolcommand notbfound09:24
holy_foolnot found09:24
trappistoh it's dpkg-reconfigure09:25
trappistthe preferred solution should be in the output that tells you it's installed but not configured09:26
ChoueTTeSomeone know how to install a new theme for KDE, like this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=33522  ?09:26
holy_foolkeymap: programmer, latin1 & latin1 - no dead keys, whats the diference09:29
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holy_foolsryy that im useing u as a wiki ^^ & thx09:30
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flixor-hi everybody09:30
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flixor-i found something strange on my box, which i do not like09:31
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flixor-I have created a guest account on my box, i enabled auto login and passwordless login for this user, however now every other user on the system does not have to provide a password when loggin in on the system via kdm09:34
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flixor-dont know if this is a kubuntu problem or a kde problem09:35
Tm_Twell, you can't set just one user passwordless, and it's not even wise to do09:36
Tm_Tbut I might be wrong ;)09:36
trappista single user can be passwordless09:36
trappistbut I think kdm does autologin or not, and of course can only do it for one user09:37
flixor-Tm_T: its not the point what wise is and what not, this behaviour should not occur09:38
flixor-the current situation that anybody could login into the system when ones know the users on the system09:39
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trappistflixor-: how is a user logging in through kdm if kdm autologins the guest account?09:40
flixor-delay 10 seconds09:40
flixor-however when this user is loggin out  then the behaviour is not to relogin this same user09:41
trappistwell that sounds like a nasty bug to me.  one that wants a nasty bug report.09:41
flixor-yes but i want somebody who could replicate this09:42
flixor-trappist: create a guest account and do auto login for this user and password less login for this user09:42
flixor-and see if you are able to login into your other account without haveing to provide a password09:42
trappistflixor-: the box I'm on now I'd have to mess things up pretty bad to do that, but I can try it at home tonight where I'm already halfway there09:43
flixor-anybody else who could replicate this09:43
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trappistactually hang on lemme try...09:46
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flixor-kee :)09:47
flixor-btw trappist i used the control center09:47
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trappistthat's what I'm doing09:47
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GNU_Stylehow do I install kde 3.5.1 in kubuntu?09:49
GNU_Stylehow do I install kde 3.5.1 in kubuntu?09:50
me2winGNU_Style, update KDE from the repos09:52
GNU_Styleit installed 3.5 only not 3.5109:52
trappistflixor-: I can't duplicate it here.  I still have to supply a password.  but I'm on dapper.09:52
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flixor-i am allso on dapper, upgraded form breezy09:53
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GNU_Stylehow to upgrade from breezy to dapper?09:54
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me2winneed to download the ISO from the website09:55
holy_foolremoving libstream-gconf0.8-0...          /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgstreamer-gconf0.8-0.prerm: 6: gconf-schemas_ not found09:55
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trappistholy_fool: where did you get these packages anyway09:56
GNU_Stylei have the flight 4 iso on CD.. what do I do to upgrade09:56
AnnirakI'm trying to get remote X working with kubuntu-desktop.  I think I have everything configured right with one exception.  kdm is listening on udp6:177 and I can't connect with udp4.  How can I change that so that I can connect with udp4?09:56
reonGNU_Style: Best to download tonights build and install from scratch. Flight 5 takes 247MB of downloads. Just did it today.09:57
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SoBeIcedThow do i make an app start on boot?, in gentoo i just used rc-update add xyc10:42
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Blippe1. put it in a startup script (rc). 2. put it in ~/.kde/autostart10:43
soltgood, i wanted to know that too :-)10:45
soltto run cpushare in idleprio and boinc10:45
solthow do i make screenshots?10:45
solti only know a way that involves running the terminal and using: import screenshot.png and then clicking on the window or the desktop10:46
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AnnirakI'm trying to get remote X working with kubuntu-desktop.  I think I have everything configured right with one exception.  kdm is listening on udp6:177 and I can't connect with udp4.  How can I change that so that I can connect with udp4?10:52
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closeasperilhello! i have the following bug in kde 3.5.1 the clock wont show the hours of time but say like HH:57:34 instead of 22:57:34. the system clock itself must be ok, because in the console it shows the right time perfectly. but in the applications like kontakt and kmail it wont show the huors. any guess anyone??10:57
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soltkde bugs are to be reported elsewhere i think.10:59
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closeasperilwell my kubuntu runs with kde :D doesnt it?11:01
Blippecloseasperil, if you check the string for the setup of the clock, how does it look?11:02
ryanakcais there a configuration utility that lets you configure apache? and please, don't give me a smart comment like "vim" or "emacs" or "kedit".11:02
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Blippesome people use webmin...11:03
closeasperilBlippe: well in the setup its same. funnyly the digital clock displays the right time11:03
ryanakcaBlippe: kubuntu has moved stuff around and played with the config so much that webmin doesn't recognise the apache things... this is dapper I'm talking about...11:04
Blipperyanakca, dapper is in #ubuntu+111:04
holy_foolscuse me but how du i go in the console into a directory11:04
sledgeholy_fool: cd11:05
holy_foolhm ok thx11:05
mcscruffcd <name here>11:06
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mcscruffor cd hel*11:06
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soltwell, i always hated configuration tools of any sort because they usually mess the configuration. change indentation, text wrapping, move things around -- so i use my favourite editor for it, including apache configs, which in apache2 are scattered around, but once you take a minute or two to grasp it, it all starts to make sense.11:08
trappistyeah I like the way apache2 configs are laid out11:09
trappistI like the whole available/enabled thing11:09
trappista2enmod and all that11:10
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fatejudgeris there any way to get sound mixing working in Dapper?11:11
solttrappist: me too11:14
solthm, everytime i stop getting sound i run alsamixer and see if wave, pcm or any other is muted or set to 011:15
soltwhen I set appropriate controls i run sudo alsactl store to store settings11:16
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MacAnthonywhen you install kubuntu, does it allow you control over partitioning or does it do it automatically11:17
BlissexMacAnthony: well, either, depending how advanced a user you are.11:18
MacAnthonyI was thinking of installing it this weekend to try it out but to back up my machine, I was going to put my stuff in an extra partition11:18
soltMacAnthony: you can control it very well, just go for manual11:18
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holy_fooli have jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin how do i install this?11:19
MacAnthonyI was going to try it out anyway, but thought I would ask - just for reassurance :)11:19
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soltchmod 700 jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin11:19
soltthe first command sets executable flag on the file, (and zeroes flags for group and others)11:20
soltthe second runs it11:20
solthm, i think you could also just type11:22
soltsh jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin11:22
holy_foolcommend not found (2nd)11:22
solt(that ./ is important there)11:23
holy_foolhm thaht looks better11:23
holy_foolthe sh...11:23
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sebastianCan anyone help me with VMware player?  I have installed it and Qemu.  I have been experimenting with the vmx file, but everything I have tryed has given me an error.  I want to install Windows 2000 Pro into Breezy.11:26
holy_foolCreating jre1.5.0_06/lib/rt.jar11:29
holy_foolCreating jre1.5.0_06/lib/jsse.jar11:29
holy_foolCreating jre1.5.0_06/lib/charsets.jar11:29
holy_foolCreating jre1.5.0_06/lib/ext/localedata.jar11:29
holy_foolCreating jre1.5.0_06/lib/plugin.jar11:29
holy_foolCreating jre1.5.0_06/lib/javaws.jar11:29
holy_foolCreating jre1.5.0_06/lib/deploy.jar11:29
holy_fooland now =) ?11:29
soltholy_fool: well the .bin file only extracts its contents. you have it extracted to disk, that's all11:30
soltif you need java cli you can find it in the bin directory inside11:30
holy_fooli need it for a homepage11:31
soltif you want some browser, like opera, or others to run the sun java, there is the lib directory in there11:31
holy_fooljavaaplet chat11:31
h3sp4wnsebastian : Whats the problem ?11:31
soltand (don't remember where exactly) is a file that browsers need11:31
sebastianI don't know what to put as the vmx file11:31
sebastianwhat it wants11:31
soltit's a .so file11:31
sebastianeverything I have tryed.  just gives me a error when I open the file in VMware player11:32
soltbtw. let's see if I have java :-)11:32
MacAnthonythe lib directory should be seperated by browser11:33
holy_foolif not u colud write your installsteps ^^11:33
soltok, i don't have java, i'll install it and tell you11:33
soltholy_fool: which browser you are using?11:33
MacAnthonyit's been a while since I've done it, but that's how I remember it11:33
soltso if you have it extracted, you need to tell konqueror where the java binary is11:34
h3sp4wnsebastian : try mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10727 - Its from vmware workstation11:35
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soltsettings->setup: konqueror -> java and javascript -> path to java11:35
dse0504Konqueror:  I just bookmarked this yesterday, but I haven't installed it yet:  http://www.konqueror.org/javahowto/11:35
holy_foolim there11:35
holy_foolbut whats the path11:35
soltfind the java file11:35
soltfind jre1.5.0_06 - name java11:36
h3sp4wnsebastian: you will still have to create the disk somehow (maybe with qemu)11:36
sebastianI got the disk I think already11:36
sebastianI downloaded something11:36
soltfind jre1.5.0_06 -name java11:36
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h3sp4wnsebastian : rename it to "Windows 2000 Professional.vmdk" and it should work if it doesn't tell me11:37
sebastianI was on this page:  http://wolphination.com/linux/?p=18  it's really for getting Linux working on Windows, but  it has a OS.zip download.  which I downloadced.  and experimetned with11:39
sebastianextracted into a folder11:39
sebastianand edited stuff so on11:39
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, borelia11:40
sebastianthe OS.zip being the OS.vmdk file and OS.vmx file11:40
soltso this will give you the path:11:40
soltecho `pwd`/jre1.5.0_06/bin/java11:40
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ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, borelia11:41
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holy_foolive entered it in konqueror ut its still isnt working11:43
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soltthere is a browse button, try navigating to the java file11:43
soltmaybe it needs a restart?11:43
holy_foolyeah konqueror restart11:44
holy_foolits working11:44
holy_foolthank yo11:44
holy_foollinux is fun ^^ ....11:45
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holy_fool...with the needed help.11:45
holy_foolwhen u torrent gets a linux client i stay on linux ^^11:47
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soltutorrent ? :-) hmm, maybe you could run it under wine?11:49
soltfor now ktorrent is pretty neat11:49
fatejudgerwho cares about utorrent11:49
fatejudgerit's stupid11:49
frolikhi kubuntu chums11:49
fatejudgerktorrent is far better11:49
fatejudgerit's modular and better11:50
fatejudgerI'd guess you've never even used ktorrent 1.211:50
holy_foolbut utorrent i could use in linux AND windows11:50
sebastianstill here11:50
sebastianhell spawn?11:50
fatejudgerholy_fool: why in the hell would you do that?11:50
holy_foolat the moment i can only donwload under windows11:50
holy_foolthe same program11:50
fatejudgerholy_fool: then use Ktorrent11:50
holy_foolsame dowlod paths11:51
fatejudgerholy_fool: so?11:51
holy_foolsame files can be downloaded under linux and windows11:51
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fatejudgerholy_fool: what makes you think that Ktorrent can't do that?11:51
frolikif you want the best way to donwnload torrents you should look into btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado11:51
h3sp4wnrtorrent is fine for me11:51
frolikruns in a shell, minimal memory usage11:51
h3sp4wnsebastian : I am here yes11:51
holy_foolim not saying that ktorrent and other clints are lame or something11:51
frolikblah blah blah etc.11:51
fatejudgerholy_fool: I understand what you want to do11:52
holy_foolbut i have 30gig on files under utorrent11:52
sebastianhad a message about the disk and11:52
fatejudgerholy_fool: what makies you think you can't do that?11:52
frolikfrolik: I use that too, it's really cool11:52
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holy_fooli cant do what11:52
fatejudgerholy_fool: you could easily continue downloads from Linux if your partition was accessible by Linux11:52
fatejudgerholy_fool: from any other client11:52
soltman, the second boss in powermanga is hard :-)11:52
holy_foolit is11:52
fatejudgerholy_fool: then do it11:52
soltyes, that's the beauty :-)11:53
fatejudgerholy_fool: just download ktorrent11:53
fatejudgerholy_fool: point it to your download directory11:53
holy_foolisnt it aprob tu dowload the same file with 2 different clients11:53
fatejudgerholy_fool: and tell it to finish it11:53
fatejudgerholy_fool: no, it isn't11:53
holy_foolhm interessting11:53
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soltnot really, that's what the protocol is for11:53
sebastianwhen I try the vmx file.  I get the The location of the virtual machiens configuraiton file has changed.....  and every time I got that I have said crate a new one11:54
fatejudgerI don't understand why I can't mix sound in Dapper11:54
fatejudgerit just isn't working11:54
fatejudgerbut I haven't heard of anyone else having that problem11:54
soltfatejudger: no sound at all?11:54
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fatejudgersolt: I can't mix sound11:54
fatejudgersolt: like play an mp3 and have KDE's sound daemon running11:54
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soltsound is tricky, i read somewhere that dapper is getting rid of artsd i think11:55
fatejudgersolt: probably not in this release11:55
soltwhenever i had problems i tried setting programs to use alsa11:55
h3sp4wnsebastian: try putting the files into /home/windows/Windows 2000 Professional11:55
fatejudgersolt: most likely Dapper+111:55
solthm, maybe so.11:56
fatejudgersolt: I have, but it doesn't work11:56
soltanything in the logs?11:56
sebastianand now I am getting a message saying:  Virtual device scsi0:0 is configured as host disk /home/sebastian/OS/Windows 2000 Professional.vmdk". This disk was created as a IDE disk with IDE Geogmetry  .  IT is likely there will be problems with using11:56
sebastianand expesailly botitng the disk as a SCSI disk11:56
sebastianthat was from before11:56
sebastiani'll try the other folder11:56
sebastianputting in the folder you suggested11:57
holy_foolhm how do i write stuff on ntfs drives11:57
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fatejudgersolt: well what happens is one program will end up hogging up the sound device11:57
soltholy_fool: oops :-)11:57
fatejudgersolt: and no other programs can use it11:57
fatejudgerholy_fool: lol11:57
fatejudgerholy_fool: you don't11:57
holy_foolwith a pan11:57
soltwell you can actually11:58
soltbut it's a trick11:58
fatejudgersolt: yeah, if you'd like to seriously screw up your partition11:58
fatejudgersolt: or recompile your kernel11:58
holy_foolya sure i use linux since yesterday11:58
fatejudgerholy_fool: just copy your torrent dir over to your ext3 partition11:58
holy_fool30gigs on a 7gig partition11:59
holy_foolill try it =)11:59
soltfirst of propably your NTFS driver is not configured for write support. and if it were you wouldn't be any good, because write support in the kernel is very limited, like. only write to files, when the write does not change its size, or write to sparse files, etc... but there is a way, called captive-ntfs11:59
fatejudgerholy_fool: Windows can write to ext3 pretty easily with the right program11:59
fatejudgerholy_fool: best to make an intermediary partition, which would be ext311:59
soltit does give you everything you'd need11:59
holy_fooli dont have a permission to write on my ntfs partition11:59
fatejudgerholy_fool: that's a good thing12:00
soltholy_fool: mount permissions are one thing, the other are the capabilities12:00
holy_foolor fat 3212:00
fatejudgerholy_fool: you'd be better off creating an ext3 partition12:00
fatejudgerholy_fool: fat32 has a 4 gb file size limit12:00
solti would disagree12:00
fatejudgerholy_fool: and sucks overall12:00
fatejudgersolt: it's what I use12:00
fatejudgersolt: and I've tried many setups12:01
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fatejudgersolt: an ext3 intermediary partition is by far the best12:01
fatejudgersolt: very fast, and very portable12:01
holy_fooli use fat 32 on win 98 with a 16gig hdd, if my memory doesnt fail me12:01
solti remember using captive-ntfs in linux to read/write from ntfs partition without any probles, and that was on mandrake (back tehn) about 2 years ago12:01
soltcaptive-ntfs uses the ntfs.sys driver from windows12:02
soltit's a wrapper, so it's pretty safe12:02
soltlike ndiswrapper12:02
solthowever, using write support from the kernel, that's something i would discourage12:02

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