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| robotgeek | howdy LaserJock | 02:18 |
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| LaserJock | hi robotgeek | 02:18 |
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| LaserJock | robotgeek: ping? | 03:04 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: pong | 03:11 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: does KDE have a Science menu? | 03:11 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: hmm, no. Good idea :) | 03:11 |
| LaserJock | It might be under "Educational" | 03:12 |
| LaserJock | I'm having a bit of a "discussion" on ubuntu-science about .desktop files and Science menus | 03:13 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: on the list? | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | yes | 03:14 |
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| robotgeek | LaserJock: as long as it doesn't change, i'm okay. i generally install stuff and verify | 03:18 |
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| LaserJock | robotgeek: as long as what doesn't change? | 03:18 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: the menu entries | 03:18 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: well, the point is really we are trying to add menu entries but do we add then to Education or Science | 03:19 |
| robotgeek | i don't mind education myself :) | 03:20 |
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| robotgeek | heh | 03:21 |
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| LaserJock | well, it really isn't a big deal since I'd rather see the apps in Education rather than not there at all | 03:22 |
| LaserJock | but I just don't see why it is so evil to put them in Science | 03:23 |
| robotgeek | not evil, it's the Motu-Science team, isn't it | 03:24 |
| LaserJock | well, it seems like every time I suggest we use Science for scientific things somebody has to say, "Just put it under education" | 03:24 |
| LaserJock | anyway, </rant> :-) | 03:25 |
| robotgeek | Science goes hand in hand with education,... | 03:25 |
| robotgeek | bbl. food! | 03:26 |
| LaserJock | yes, but they aren't the same thing. that is my point | 03:27 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I gotta get home | 03:27 |
| robotgeek | later LaserJock | 03:27 |
| LaserJock | maybe I just have to adopt my inner teacher ;-) | 03:27 |
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| Madpilot | hi all | 04:28 |
| Burgundavia | salut Madpilot | 04:31 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia, I know you've mentioned not blogging because you don't want planet.u.c to turn into "Planet Corey" - but given that it seems to be "Planet Jeff" right now, I'd go ahead... :P | 04:31 |
| Madpilot | you could blog this: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?src=rss&id=933 | 04:33 |
| Kyral | hmm | 04:33 |
| Kyral | who is in charge of the ServerGuide? | 04:33 |
| Burgundavia | nah, that is boring | 04:34 |
| Madpilot | Kyral, bhuvan & Brian Shumate are, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Projects | 04:34 |
| Kyral | hmm | 04:34 |
| Kyral | I stumbled onto a nice Server Monitoring tool (That seems to be good for Xen as well!) and I'd like to write up a little ditty on it | 04:35 |
| Kyral | called Munin | 04:36 |
| Madpilot | Kyral, you could write it up and send it to the ML, either in plain text or as a 'proper' patch/diff to our XML - or just ask about it on the ML first | 04:37 |
| Kyral | yah I should | 04:37 |
| Kyral | but not now.. | 04:37 |
| Kyral | I have been coding for 10 hours | 04:37 |
| Kyral | I need a shower | 04:37 |
| Madpilot | beer might be a good idea too :P | 04:37 |
| Kyral | underage | 04:38 |
| LaserJock | hi Madpilot Burgundavia and Kyral | 04:38 |
| crimsun | "legal" friends. | 04:38 |
| Madpilot | hi LaserJock | 04:38 |
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| robotgeek | hey all | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | hi robotgeek | 05:29 |
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| Kyral | tomorrow I'll slap something in the Wiki about Munin | 06:19 |
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| Madpilot | Kyral, bhuvan is one of the Server Guide authors | 06:29 |
| Kyral | Yah I know | 06:32 |
| Kyral | but Kyral.conscious == False now :P | 06:33 |
| Madpilot | heh. fair enough. | 06:33 |
| Kyral | Oh if you wanna see Munin going live, I have it on my Xen server | 06:33 |
| Kyral | azuredreams.us/munin | 06:33 |
| Madpilot | shiny graphs - cool | 06:34 |
| Kyral | Keep in mind there is only one "real" machine :P | 06:35 |
| Kyral | The others are Xen Domains | 06:35 |
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| Madpilot | anyone know what "Kiss Alexandru" is talking about in his email to the list? | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | no idea | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | I rather successfully ignored it | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | getting good at that | 08:22 |
| rob | troll? | 08:22 |
| Madpilot | ESL, more than troll, I think | 08:23 |
| rob | not much more, its pretty poorly written | 08:24 |
| Madpilot | wonder what he means by "rooter" documentation? | 08:25 |
| rob | router? | 08:25 |
| Madpilot | maybe | 08:25 |
| rob | I'd like to see the wiki team promoted more, but then I'd like to see everything documentation-wise promoted more | 08:27 |
| Madpilot | yeah - I just don't see the point in splitting the list & team(s) up. Fragmented efforts usually have even more trouble, not less... | 08:28 |
| Burgundavia | we are just building critical mass on the wiki | 08:29 |
| rob | well, the thing is a lot of people are unaware the is a Wiki Team, or even offical docs or a Doc team for that matter | 08:29 |
| Burgundavia | crazy to split now | 08:29 |
| rob | I dunno, there would be benefits such as more exposure for the wiki team | 08:31 |
| Madpilot | every time I've been involved in a list and someone says, "Oh, <issue X> has lots of interest, but it's not important to everyone, let's form "mailing-list-X" for discussions" mailing-list-X usually dies within weeks, and any discussion of 'X' wanders back to the main list... | 08:31 |
| rob | I wouldn't split the mailing list itself, but maybe its own IRC channel would help | 08:32 |
| Madpilot | Just for visibility? Sure | 08:33 |
| manicka | the wiki (userdocs specifically) is in desperate need of some more love. Naaman has a lot of energy but not much support from what i can see | 08:33 |
| Madpilot | (yay, another channel for XChat to auto-join on startup!) :P | 08:33 |
| rob | that, and I think people are a little intimidated by the doc team | 08:33 |
| rob | even though they shouldn't be | 08:34 |
| Madpilot | we try not to bite people who wander in by mistake... | 08:34 |
| rob | oh, I know, but I think people might be a little more confatable with a wiki-spesific channel | 08:35 |
| rob | bah me spell good | 08:35 |
| manicka | I can't see the benefit of that rob, the same people would just inhabit both channels | 08:37 |
| Madpilot | manicka, I think Namaan's re-org of UserDocs was done single-handed mostly because most of us weren't quite sure what he was aiming for, so we stayed out of the way | 08:37 |
| rob | initially yes | 08:37 |
| mdke | morning | 08:38 |
| rob | hi mdke | 08:38 |
| manicka | hi | 08:38 |
| rob | its a thought, kind of a random one I just had as we were discussing it | 08:38 |
| Burgundavia | we can have #ubuntu-wiki redirect here | 08:39 |
| rob | Burgundavia, yes | 08:39 |
| Madpilot | manicka, there are lots of overlapping channels that work OK, though - #html/#web/#css is one set I'm on regularly | 08:39 |
| Burgundavia | or we can release the movie "Doc team does wiki" | 08:39 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, ++ :-) | 08:39 |
| Burgundavia | personally, I think the movie would have more impact, but others may disagree... | 08:40 |
| rob | Burgundavia, all that would need is for seveas to request it | 08:40 |
| mdke | the movie? | 08:41 |
| rob | or jdub, has to be a contact | 08:41 |
| mdke | seveas has friends in hollywood... | 08:41 |
| Madpilot | no, the channel-redirect :P | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | canonical will sponsor a movie for us? Can they just hire one of use instead? | 08:41 |
| rob | just find an old movie and dub over the top | 08:41 |
| mdke | let's shoot it ourselves | 08:42 |
| Madpilot | "DocTeam Does Wiki" - Burgundavia, remind me to punch you next time you come over... | 08:42 |
| Burgundavia | with our rate of attrition, it would have to be a snuff film | 08:43 |
| rob | hmm.. 17 open channels on a 19 inch screen doesn't all fit on the xchat tab list :( | 08:44 |
| Madpilot | buy a bigger screen | 08:44 |
| mdke | Madpilot, you take requests for punching Burgundavia? | 08:44 |
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| Madpilot | mdke, I could probably be persuaded, yes... :D | 08:45 |
| rob | 120 could get messy | 08:45 |
| mdke | heh | 08:45 |
| mdke | what's a flash website? | 08:48 |
| mdke | found one | 08:49 |
| rob | http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=1613 | 08:49 |
| rob | oh | 08:49 |
| mdke | i wonder if the easiest way of installing flash is simply to click on a flash animation in firefox and follow the instructions | 08:50 |
| mdke | oh damn, installation failed | 08:50 |
| Burgundavia | that forums are reporting that as well | 08:50 |
| mdke | ok, /me tries flashplugin-nonfree | 08:51 |
| mdke | that doesn't work either | 08:51 |
| mdke | bugger | 08:52 |
| Madpilot | get the .run file from Macromedia - that'll work in all browsers, too, not just FF | 08:52 |
| mdke | it works? | 08:53 |
| mdke | sounds better than nothing | 08:53 |
| mdke | i'll try it later on | 08:54 |
| Burgundavia | we might also want to ping a MOTU to get the package fixed | 08:54 |
| mdke | good plan | 08:54 |
| Madpilot | the Macromedia file works in Breezy, not sure about Dapper | 08:55 |
| k31th | Morning all | 09:05 |
| Madpilot | night all | 09:09 |
| Madpilot | :P | 09:09 |
| mdke | good night | 09:09 |
| bhuvan | does DesktopTeam have an irc channel ? | 09:36 |
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| bhuvan | mdke: ping | 09:43 |
| robitaille | bhuvan: according to the wiki: #ubuntu-desktop | 09:49 |
| robitaille | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/TeamSpecifics | 09:49 |
| bhuvan | robitaille, thanks | 09:50 |
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| bhuvan | it is available here: http://puggy.symonds.net/~bhuvan/ubuntu/ubuntu_contribute.odp | 09:53 |
| bhuvan | feedbacks are welcome! | 09:54 |
| mdke | bhuvan, pong | 10:03 |
| mdke | cool | 10:04 |
| bhuvan | mdke: if you have time, can you go through the presentation ? | 10:04 |
| mdke | bhuvan, sure I'll take a look | 10:05 |
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| mdke | mgalvin, nice tip about munin. do you know if it searches existing log files, or just starts to archive when you install it? | 03:47 |
| mgalvin | mdke: I used it on a clean install so I'm not totally sure I don't think so. I think it starts archiving from the time it gets installed | 03:55 |
| mdke | i think so too | 03:55 |
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| robotgeek | jjesse: ping | 04:58 |
| jjesse | robotgeek: pong | 04:58 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: need help with the help wanted sections :) | 04:58 |
| jjesse | status page is where again? i forgot to book mark it :) | 04:59 |
| robotgeek | http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/status/kdg-report.html | 04:59 |
| jjesse | thanks | 05:00 |
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| mhz | hi guys | 11:05 |
| mhz | Does any of you have or know of any syllabus (with objectives and all) for a course of office applications (firefox, thunderbird, abiword, gnumeric, and ooo) ? | 11:05 |
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