[12:00] <MrRio> moox: my sip id is rio
[12:00] <ipfaff> DC++/UBUNTU any knowledge out there?
[12:00] <ompaul> IdleOne, the first I wonder about, and the second, who are you calling wise?
[12:00] <IdleOne> ompaul, :)
[12:00] <ompaul> :)
[12:01] <moulty> hi, have installed soundcard drivers, vlc and other media players can use it, but Aconnect GUI and Jack Control cant connect to alsa or find card, am useing dapper 6.04, any ideas?
[12:01] <MrRio> moox: im getting 'user not found' for mozfulder@exiga.net
[12:01] <ompaul> ipfaff, sorry theres is lots of ubuntu is that C++?
[12:01] <ipfaff> hahah no DC++
[12:02] <alekz> !nvidia
[12:02] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:02] <_jason> ompaul: you're silly
[12:02] <alekz> Ubugtu, search nvidia
[12:02] <ipfaff> no, it's not a prog. language...google it my friend
[12:02] <_jason> ompaul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC%2B%2B
[12:02] <moulty> !nvidia
[12:02] <rfmonk> oh yea thanks ubotu
[12:02] <alekz> ubotu, search nvidia
[12:02] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, alekz
[12:03] <ipfaff> i had 4 DC++ servers up and running before I switched to Linux...wanna get back into it...can't find anything compatible
[12:03] <moulty> ubotu tell alekz about nvidia
[12:03] <alekz> 10x
[12:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell ipfaff about p2p
[12:03] <MrRio> ipfaff, http://opendcd.sourceforge.net/ ?
[12:04] <moulty> Q: have installed soundcard drivers, vlc and other media players can use it, but Aconnect GUI and Jack Control cant connect to alsa or find card, am useing dapper 6.04, any ideas hotwo setup?
[12:04] <MrRio> ipfaff: i assume your talking about DC++ the directconnect 'filesharing' client?
[12:04] <ompaul> _jason, you see its like this, I don't need anything other than bittorrent which I use to share Ubuntu
[12:04] <alekz> i have a problem in other box, i go to System > Administration > Networking , my password is asked and i typed it, but nothing happends, i can never see that panel, what can i do ?
[12:04] <IamEthos> it seems to me that Ubuntu comes with a lot of stuff that I may not necessarily need
[12:05] <_jason> ompaul: don't worry, I thought it was a programming language when I first heard about it too
[12:05] <IamEthos> is there like an "install from CD" option
[12:05] <ompaul> alekz, are you the first user that is installed on that other box?
[12:05] <alekz> ompaul, i've just installed 5 min ago
[12:05] <rfmonk> quicktime unavailable for linux on firefox plugin site
[12:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell rfmonk about quicktime
[12:05] <rfmonk> *runs off to check wiki link*
[12:05] <cello_rasp> how do i play rm files?
[12:05] <MrRio> ipfaff, there is also http://dc-qt.sourceforge.net/
[12:05] <IamEthos> so that I can get any extra stuff off of my hard drive but keep it around for later in case I want it?
[12:06] <_jason> cello_rasp: mplayer and w32codecs will allow you to play them
[12:06] <ompaul> alekz, and you could log in obviously, this is strange behaviour
[12:06] <alekz> ubotu, tell alekz about nvidia
[12:06] <alekz> i know ompaul :S
[12:06] <_jason> alekz: did you do an expert install?
[12:06] <alekz> _jason, no, simple
[12:06] <cello_rasp> _jason: for some reason the sources are bad for w32codecs :(
[12:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell cello_rasp about w32codecs
[12:07] <ompaul> alekz, do this in a terminal >> gksudo network-admin <<
[12:07] <gilianima> are there softs to make graphs from functions and other stuffs like like on linux ?
[12:08] <ompaul> gilianima, lots so do this >>apt-cache search graph<< (having universe and multiverse enabled helps )
[12:08] <alekz> ompaul, one second let me try
[12:08] <mwe> gilianima: gnuplot
[12:08] <gilianima> ompaul: too much results...
[12:08] <IamEthos> what media player app is most comparable to Winamp?
[12:08] <batman> has anyone had any success getting any other wifi cards working with kismet other than the ones on the kismet documention list?
[12:08] <MrRio> ipfaff, AHAH! In synaptic, enable universe repos and look for 'dcgui'. that looks like a nifty dc client
[12:08] <ompaul> gilianima, lots so do this >>apt-cache search graph | grep graph <<
[12:08] <_jason> IamEthos: beep media player probably
[12:09] <cello_rasp> IamEthos: xmms!
[12:09] <saiko> IamEthos> xmms or beep-media-player
[12:09] <gilianima> i need a prog that does the same as an HP48G/GX calculator
[12:09] <mwe> searcg for plot instead
[12:09] <IamEthos> batman: I have a broadcom card
[12:09] <IamEthos> that I think... is working
[12:09] <batman> IamEthos, with kismet? o.O
[12:09] <pchapman> MrRio, I see that automatix is not for amd 64 machines.
[12:09] <IamEthos> I don't know what kismet is
[12:10] <mwe> !automatix
[12:10] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:10] <batman> IamEthos ok then don't worry about it
[12:10] <pchapman> MrRio, so far all the debs I've found are for i386 as well
[12:10] <pchapman> time to compile source, I guess
[12:10] <IamEthos> ooh
[12:10] <IamEthos> I lied
[12:10] <MrRio> pchapman: hmm, I'm afraid I dont know much about that.
[12:10] <IamEthos> my card isn't working
[12:10] <IamEthos> that's weird
[12:10] <IamEthos> it was at one point
[12:10] <alekz> ompaul, how can i edit the network-admin stuff in a file by a terminal? i mean not gnu interface
[12:10] <afernandez> sorry but i was eating, my question it's no about how to install, because i already have install the nvidia driver, it's about if anyone have the same problem :P an i was searching in google for this problem
[12:10] <MrRio> pchapman, I have an amd64, but it just run 32-bit ubuntu to make it easier to run windows apps / flash plugins etc
[12:11] <Sophant> chuckypy, are you still there?
[12:11] <MrRio> i*
[12:11] <Sophant> chuckypy, it didn't work
[12:11] <pchapman> MrRio, I can understand why you'd want to do that
[12:11] <batman> IamEthos i have a 3com card that is acting weird ubuntu autodetected it but it connects to localhost and in the wifi-radar detects my access point >.<
[12:11] <pchapman> MrRio, the 32bit chroot may be my ticket, but I know that that lib will work in 64 bit 'cause I used it on Fedora.
[12:11] <mwe> batman: fix /etc/network/interfaces
[12:12] <mwe> batman: make a backup first though
[12:12] <ompaul> alekz, what kind of connection are you trying to make with the box
[12:12] <Master_Shake_57> Help?
[12:12] <Master_Shake_57> ubuntu-xgl:~$ fglrxinfo
[12:12] <Master_Shake_57> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[12:12] <Master_Shake_57> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[12:12] <Master_Shake_57> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:12] <Master_Shake_57> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[12:12] <MrRio> Master_Shake_57: pastebin please
[12:12] <_jason> Master_Shake_57: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:12] <chuckyp> !paste
[12:12] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:12] <jind> Which package do i have to add to the "dpkg-reconfigure" command to reconfigure which dm should start as default?
[12:12] <Master_Shake_57> MrRio: My bad.
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Master_Shake_57: don not paste in here please use pastebin
[12:12] <Sophant> my sound is still not working
[12:12] <chuckyp> jind, dm?
[12:12] <alekz> ompaul, a LAN connection, i have a ip asigned to the box, how can i take it ?
[12:12] <_jason> jind: dpkg-reconfigure gdm, to make gdm default... similar for kdm
[12:12] <jind> chuckyp: like gdm or kdm
[12:12] <mwe> Master_Shake_57: your 3d is not working though
[12:12] <jind> _jason: thanks
[12:13] <Sophant> i can only get sound from one program at a time
[12:13] <chuckyp> jind, yeah I got ya now.
[12:13] <jsmidt> what command do I use to find a file?  I am using the command find but it won't locate a file I know is somewhere on my computer.
[12:13] <MrRio> jind: you can choose it in gdm
[12:13] <ompaul> alekz, ifconfig is your friend
[12:13] <chuckyp> Sophant, are you using alsa?
[12:13] <ompaul> alekz, wired or wireless?
[12:13] <alekz> ompaul, wired, how can i edit ifconfig values ?
[12:13] <polpak> jsmidt, find / -name filename
[12:13] <Sophant> chuckyp, i am using the default
[12:13] <dan> I want to install microsoft fonts. I wanted to know is this necessary to do it via synaptic. What about simply copying the fonts from my Windows partition to Ubuntu Fonts folder?
[12:13] <batman> mwe i have it setup to dhcp or auto if you prefer
[12:14] <eugman> whats the terminal command for archive manager?
[12:14] <mwe> jsmidt: locate is way faster than find
[12:14] <ompaul> alekz, are you connected to the lan at this time?
[12:14] <eugman> nvm
[12:14] <alekz> no ompaul i have no connection on that box
[12:14] <polpak> mwe, but only works if the file was there the last time the db was updated
[12:14] <_jason> dan: you can do that, probably easier to just install the msttcorefonts package from multiverse though
[12:14] <jsmidt> Thanks a lot ot worked
[12:14] <ompaul> alekz, wire it up and reboot it and see if it comes up
[12:15] <mwe> batman: don't you get a correct ip and gateway if you do a sudo dhclient <interface name> ?
[12:15] <dan> _jason unfortunately I am behind a lan and it doesn't pick up files from :80 and I dont know how to configure ubuntu to understand that I use 8080
[12:15] <mwe> polpak: of course
[12:15] <alekz> ompaul, i already tried that
[12:15] <ompaul> alekz, type ifconfig and see what it comes back with
[12:15] <batman> mwe nope O..o
[12:16] <dan> _jason,  I have it set in Network Proxy and Via console but still whenever I use apt-get or dpkg I fail just because somethings are configured to be downloaded from port 80
[12:16] <ompaul> alekz, if it has anything paste it in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:16] <mwe> batman: try sudo iwconfig essed <your ap> first
[12:16] <aion> hello guys :)
[12:16] <_jason> dan: does it work if you set it up in synaptic?
[12:16] <mwe> batman: try sudo iwconfig essed <interface name ><your ap> that is
[12:16] <mwe> batman: ah
[12:16] <dan> _jason,  no
[12:16] <mwe> batman: sorry
[12:16] <ompaul> alekz, or tell me does it show ethX where X is a number
[12:16] <aion> im a new ubuntu/unix noob and i i was wondering if i could ask you guys for some help i need with 1 program ?
[12:16] <mwe> batman: sudo iwconfig <interface name> essid <access point>
[12:17] <tristanmike> ask away
[12:17] <aion> ok , i have installed mplayer
[12:17] <dan> _jason,  I can dowload files from most ubuntu, multiverse, universe archives but i cant download some of them and msttcorefonts is one of them
[12:17] <_jason> dan: hrmm don't know how to fix that... I'll tell you about installing fonts though
[12:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell dan about fonts
[12:17] <aion> but i want it to be the default movie player , i cant figure out how to set it to default :/
[12:17] <alekz> ok ompaul a second please, im not on that box right now, im moving a person that is doing that
[12:17] <dan> _jason,  thank you :)
[12:17] <batman> mwe still connects to localhost o.O
[12:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell aion about defaultapp
[12:17] <ompaul> alekz, or tell me does it show ethX where X is a number <<---
[12:18] <aion> ty jason :)
[12:18] <mwe> batman: odd
[12:18] <student> would anyone have the time to help me out with an SMB setup problem?
[12:18] <alekz> ompaul, eth0
[12:18] <batman> mwe when i do dhclient eh1 it says unknown hardware address type 776 but ubuntu auto detected the card
[12:18] <ompaul> !tell student about samba
[12:19] <ompaul> student, have a look at the message from the bot
[12:19] <RockClimber> is totem+gstreamer playing dvds okay in 6.04 testing?
[12:19] <mwe> batman: sudo dhclient eth1 I guess, but maybe that's what you did. I don't know why it complains about the hardware address
[12:19] <Syrra> Hello :D
[12:19] <ompaul> alekz, well if it is there and your gui is not showing up I woud suggest that you may need a new card - very unusual or try reseating it in another slot
[12:19] <Sophant> chuckyp, i am using the default sound manager
[12:20] <Sophant> chuckyp, i am using the default sound manager
[12:20] <batman> mwe thats what i am doing right now says no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[12:20] <batman> mwe no dhcpoffers recieved
[12:20] <Syrra> Anyone available to help?
[12:20] <_jason> Syrra: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[12:20] <raindog> A few days ago I installed a driver for my winmodema and was finally able to get online.  Today, however, ubuntu seems to be unable to find/use my modem.  Any suggestions?
[12:20] <mwe> batman: does your ap use encryption?
[12:20] <ompaul> alekz, how is it being assigned this ip?
[12:20] <batman> mwe nope
[12:20] <Syrra> "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 135" What's that mean then?
[12:21] <Syrra> And, more importantly, how do I fix it?
[12:21] <student> ompaul: why do I need the samba package if I am not running a samba server?
[12:21] <Sophant> chuckyp, nevermind
[12:21] <Sophant> chuckyp, i am using
[12:21] <mwe> batman: does iwconfig confirm the ap is set to yours?
[12:21] <alekz> ompaul, with a router
[12:21] <Sophant> chuckyp, ESD
[12:21] <batman> mwe it shows up in eth1 when i call it
[12:22] <mwe> batman: this is iwconfig, not ifconfig. it should show your ap settings
[12:22] <MyNickIsTaken> how come my system is so laggy? I have a 2.8ghz processor and 1gb of ram, and no processes in the system log are using much of it at all. But gedit shortcut doesn't work, only gedit from terminal. Totem plays horribly out of sync, and lags like 30 seconds between items on the playlist. Rhythmbox is just as bad. Help?
[12:22] <mwe> batman: as ESSID
[12:22] <alekz> ompaul, they are rebooting box again, tell me another thing please, i see i have this package isntalled: ircd-ircu how can i remove it if apt-get says is not installed ? but dpkg -l ircd-ircu does
[12:22] <ompaul> student, so you asked if you could have help with SMB and what do most people  want? -- so the other thing is you have a client
[12:22] <batman> mwe yes it is showing up
[12:22] <chuckyp> Sophant, possibly try some of the troubleshooting located here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sound
[12:23] <student> ompaul: yes I have smbclient installed...do I also need smbfs?
[12:23] <ompaul> smbclient - a LanManager-like simple client for Unix
[12:23] <Sophant> chuckyp, ok, thanks
[12:23] <mwe> batman: and with your ap chosen?
[12:23] <alekz> ompaul, +++-[12:23] <alekz> rc  ircd-ircu      2.10.11.04-3   Undernet IRC Server daemon <--- what does the "rc" mean ?
[12:23] <batman> mwe yes
[12:23] <mwe> batman: what does iwlist eth1 scan say?
[12:23] <ompaul> student, i know no more about smb than that - don't use any windows myself
[12:24] <MagicDk> how can i check if my video card it`s working 100% ?!
[12:24] <batman> mwe bleh unknown command
[12:24] <mwe> batman: iwlist. it should be present
[12:24] <batman> mwe yea it is present
[12:25] <mwe> batman: so type iwlist eth1 scan
[12:25] <batman> mwe it comes up with it
[12:25] <mwe> batman: with what?
[12:25] <eizesus> Does anyone knows how to play WMV or AVI on ubuntu?
[12:25] <batman> mwe my access point info
[12:25] <ompaul> alekz, so (A) leave out the +++ and then (B)  -l is list (C) -i is installed
[12:26] <gnomefreak> eizesus: i think the w32codecs plays those
[12:26] <mwe> batman: good. and your ap is actually a dhcp server as well?
[12:26] <pppoe_dude> anybody had a problem running xterm from the command line applet (in gnome) during a vnc session?? xterm goes crazy and sucks all the memory
[12:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell eizesus about multimedia
[12:26] <mwe> batman: or your router
[12:26] <pppoe_dude> including swap
[12:26] <batman> mwe yes it is
[12:26] <raindog> My modem worked fine the other day.  Now it says it can't detect it however I've changed nogthing on the system.  It even correctly lists the modem in the device manager.  Anyone have some ideas about why this is happening?
[12:26] <mwe> batman: hmm
[12:26] <eizesus> get it by SYNAPTIC?
[12:26] <batman> mwe i have my internal wifi working but just want to try to get this one working as well
[12:26] <mwe> batman: oh
[12:26] <_jason> eizesus: check your private messages from ubotu
[12:26] <gnomefreak> eizesus: no you have to add repos to do it that way
[12:27] <mwe> batman: I think you cannot assign the same default gateway through two interfaces at the same time
[12:27] <chuckyp> raindog, hardware or phoneline issues?
[12:27] <batman> mwe i just find it odd how ubuntu auto detected it and it shows up with my ap but connects me to localhost
[12:27] <batman> mwe its not
[12:27] <kck> ok, I've got a problem with HAL and my Dell Axim... I used to just blacklist the ipaq module in hotplug but Dapper doesn't use hotplug anymore... so how do I blacklist the ipaq module in hal?
[12:27] <batman> mwe i have the other deactivated
[12:28] <raindog> chuckyp:  I don't know.  My other modem on my laptop connects just fine.  [that's what I'm using now]   It goes thru the same phone line and I've even swapped the cords to check them.
[12:28] <kck> Did you know... "Sweating bullets" is literally what happens when Chuck Norris gets too hot.
[12:28] <kck> err heh
[12:28] <mwe> batman: so the other interface is down? ifconfig doesn't list it?
[12:28] <kck> sorry my chuck norris plugin kicked in there heh
[12:28] <batman> nope
[12:28] <batman> mwe nope
[12:29] <MotorCityMadMan> what code do i replace to open this partition ? that in fstab file (/dev/hda3  /media/hda3     ntfs    defaults  0  0)
[12:29] <chuckyp> raindog, well if nothing changed perhaps the modem died you could try sending at signals to it and see how it responds.  but I can't even remember how to do that.
[12:29] <mwe> batman: hmm.
[12:29] <rfmonk> sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[12:29] <rfmonk> gives cannot access archive hmm
[12:29] <batman> mwe is hows packets being sent but none are being recieved ...
[12:29] <chuckyp> rfmonk, re download it.
[12:29] <raindog> chuckyp:  I can check the wiki for the at commands.  That's a good idea.  Thanks.  If my modem died after one day of use on Ubuntu I have to wonder if it is related.
[12:29] <tristanmike> rfmonk, chmod a+x realplayer
[12:30] <rfmonk> sweet ok
[12:30] <chuckyp> raindog, doubtfull
[12:30] <mwe> batman: does it work if you assign ip and gateway statically?
[12:30] <batman> mwe i tried that but it still did the same packets being sent out but none recieved
[12:30] <mwe> batman: no weird firewall rule or anything?
[12:30] <batman> mwe nope
[12:31] <Mabus06> how come my system is so laggy? I have a 2.8ghz processor and 1gb of ram, and no processes in the system log are using much of it at all. But gedit shortcut doesn't work, only gedit from terminal. Totem plays horribly out of sync, and lags like 30 seconds between items on the playlist. Rhythmbox is just as bad. Can anybody please give me some ideas?
[12:31] <mwe> batman: sudo iptables --list confirms no rules?
[12:31] <pppoe_dude> Mabus06, problem is not about processor speed or ram
[12:32] <Mabus06> pppoe_dude: then it is about what?
[12:32] <pppoe_dude> Mabus06, run "glxgears" from a terminal and tell me the fps
[12:32] <batman> just says chain input policay accept target prot opt source deistination for forward output also
[12:32] <Mabus06> pppoe_dude: doesn't say, do I have to provide an argument?
[12:32] <mwe> batman: hmm
[12:33] <mwe> batman: what card/driver is this?
[12:33] <pppoe_dude> hmm
[12:33] <pppoe_dude> Mabus06, is it choppy?
[12:33] <batman> mwe 3com mod no. 3crshpw796
[12:33] <Mabus06> pppoe_dude: no
[12:33] <Sophant> chuckyp, that wasn't much help
[12:33] <pppoe_dude> Mabus06, or do you see the CPU usage go up when your run it?
[12:33] <batman> mwe ubuntu auto detected it
[12:33] <_jason> !glxgears
[12:33] <kck> People think my friend George is weird because he wears sideburns...behind his
[12:33] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[12:33] <kck> ears.  I think he's weird because he wears false teeth...with braces on them.
[12:33] <kck> 		-- Steven Wright
[12:34] <Sophant> chuckyp, mainly for people whose sound card is not being detected
[12:34] <mwe> batman: that's no guarantee the driver is stable, though, but I doubt that's the problem. I'm about out of ideas. sorry
[12:34] <Mabus06> pppoe_dude: ~900 fps
[12:34] <error403> !w32codecs
[12:34] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:34] <error403> w00t
[12:35] <batman> mwe, no big deal just wanted to see if anyone knew why it would connect to localhost >.<
[12:35] <pppoe_dude> Mabus06, I would suggest that you install xine or vlc and see if the problem persists.
[12:35] <j1p> At my school they set up a network drive for each student, and to map it they only have directions for windows. On windows it says to map the drive to //webhost/username, how would i do this on ubuntu, I need samba, right?
[12:35] <polpak> batman, why what would connect to localhost?
[12:35] <pppoe_dude> Mabus06, could be many many things
[12:35] <MotorCityMadMan> are there any other ubuntu channels ?
[12:35] <batman> polpak, this wifi card its a pcmcia
[12:35] <polpak> j1p, sudo apt-get install smbmount smb4k
[12:36] <kck> anyone with hald experience?
[12:36] <tristanmike> MotorCityMadMan, there's lots
[12:36] <error403> BAh!  Dead link :(
[12:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell MotorCityMadMan about irc
[12:36] <_jason> error403: ?
[12:36] <error403> _jason, for the !w32codecs
[12:36] <error403> "See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install"
[12:36] <_jason> !restricted
[12:36] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:36] <polpak> j1p, or you can read the samba wiki
[12:36] <j1p> polpak, thanks
[12:36] <polpak> !tell j1p about samba
[12:37] <_jason> error403: go to the restricted page above, tinyurl must be ahving problems
[12:37] <polpak> j1p, but I find that smb4k makes managing network drives very easy
[12:37] <MotorCityMadMan> ubotu: do you a ubuntu channel list ?
[12:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MotorCityMadMan
[12:37] <_jason> MotorCityMadMan: check your private messages
[12:38] <MotorCityMadMan> thank you
[12:38] <MotorCityMadMan> :-)
[12:39] <batman> anyone here know if a linksys wpc54g card will work with kismet?
[12:39] <batman> i noticed a linksys wrt54g would work but can't seem to find it in retail stores
[12:39] <bgt> does anyone know how to install and compile x264 under ubuntu
[12:40] <kck> does anyone know how to get HAL to blacklist a kernel module?
[12:40] <sfar-ubu> are you twins?
[12:40] <kck> ha           ha                                    ha
[12:40] <sfar-ubu> :-)
[12:40] <bgt> i thought wrt54g was a router model
[12:40] <kck> :)
[12:41] <Kame> Ah, people, quick noob question, what do you do with a .bin?
[12:41] <batman> bgt it is also a wifi card
[12:43] <student> when I click on my smb share, I get this error:  "The folder contents could not be displayed.  "share" couldn't be found.  Perhaps it has recently been deleted."  Does anyone know how I can fix this issue?
[12:43] <TR30> Kame, run it from Terminal like this "sh file"
[12:44] <pppoe_dude> Kame, from a terminal, type 'chmod x <file.bin> then "./<file.bin>
[12:44] <pppoe_dude> Kame, * sorry 'chmod +x <file>
[12:44] <pppoe_dude> '
[12:44] <TR30> pppoe_dude, dont need chmod if you type sh first
[12:44] <Cooner750> What do I do when Ubuntu loads with a nasty blue screen saying stuff about X11 after I edited xorg.conf? can I just restore the backup one? I can get into a command line from the screen
[12:45] <pppoe_dude> TR30, just an alternative method
[12:45] <mwe> TR30: yes if it
[12:45] <mwe> TR30: yes if it's not a script
[12:45] <baconbacon> saying ... stuff?
[12:45] <_jason> Cooner750: can you hit ctrl+alt+f1?
[12:45] <pppoe_dude> mwe, TR30 exactly
[12:45] <pppoe_dude> TR30, .bin is usually an installation program or something
[12:45] <mwe> TR30: if it's a binary, which .bin suggests, sh file.bin will fail
[12:46] <wold> somebody has a "Marvell W8300" based wifi card?
[12:46] <Cooner750> I'll have to try in a little while. at the moment I'm in Windows
[12:46] <Quest-Master> no
[12:46] <Rubin> how can i make the network scripts stop overwriting resolv.conf?
[12:46] <Kame> ah... it just said ": cannot execute binary file"
[12:46] <TR30> thought bin files have a script embedded in the binary.. thus sh works ...at least i thought
[12:46] <pppoe_dude> Kame, but it really depends on what kind of .bin it is. could be many things (e.g. cd image, binary executable, mac files, etc.)
[12:47] <mwe> Kame: sh file wont work for binary files. chmod +x file the ./file should work though
[12:48] <mwe> TR30: some binary files do. not all though
[12:48] <TR30> okay, thx for the info
[12:48] <calloc> Guys I need help! - Im losing my marbles, I was on last night telling you about how I couldnt access my SSH from outside my LAN, I cant reach any port except for port 80, Ive checked firewall, router and I contacted my ISP and they told me they DO NOT block ports and that my service hasnt changed! - Can anyonne help me out here? It was working fine up until a few days ago, i can reach port 80, could I bind SSH to this port, if I disable Apache!, please any 
[12:49] <mwe> calloc: you can bind ssh to any port in the config
[12:49] <pppoe_dude> calloc, what port is ssh running on?default?
[12:49] <duckblur> lol
[12:49] <duckblur> I was gonna ask a question, but I solved it while connecting :P
[12:49] <calloc> pppoe_dude, yeah 22
[12:49] <gnomefreak> calloc: did you gp into router config and open port 22 for ssh?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> :( nm
[12:50] <gnomefreak> <<slow
[12:50] <calloc> gnomefreak, yeah as i said i t has been working for months fine, i cant explain it
[12:50] <pppoe_dude> calloc, does a ping work? (from client to server)
[12:50] <duckblur> A problem with Firefox 1.5 (I'm pretty sure I had it in 1.0 as well): Round buttons (like those on google.com) ain't round at all really, looks like some deformed cube instead.
[12:51] <duckblur> Is that a "feature" or is my X borked?
[12:51] <ywwg2> I'm having major gnome-session / profile issues.  When I log in on my regular account, the splash screen comes up but the disk churns and churns and it never logs in.  This started happening spontaneously.  Other accounts are unaffected.  I tried clearing out .gnome2, .gconf, the works, but it still hangs and hangs on login.  any ideas?
[12:51] <mwe> duckblur: I'm not sure what buttons you mean
[12:51] <pppoe_dude> calloc, I would suggest running ethereal and observing what is realy happening
[12:51] <calloc> pppoe_dude, i can ssh from my windows box to ubuntu box on lan, outside of LAN i get connection refused for ssh, port 80 is there tho and it seems the only one!
[12:52] <pchapman> MrRio, I got it working
[12:52] <mwe> duckblur: radio buttons?
[12:52] <duckblur> ywwg2: Most likely the file it needs to log in is on a bad sector on the harddrive.
[12:52] <MrRio> pchapman: cool, how?
[12:52] <pppoe_dude> calloc, is the ssh running on the external IP?
[12:52] <pchapman> MrRio, compiling my own dep from src
[12:52] <calloc> pppoe_dude, yes
[12:52] <MrRio> pchapman, good work :)
[12:52] <ywwg2> duckblur: I just did an fsck, but it's all looking good.  I also don't see any errors in the logs about seek errors
[12:53] <duckblur> mwe: Sorry, doesn't exist on USA's google. Go to google.co.uk and see.
[12:53] <HHec> hi people!.... can anyone tell me how to make a floppy boot disk please?
[12:53] <calloc> pppoe_dude, i have even shut down firestarter to see if it was that, allowed all traffic on router, still nothing, thats why I thought it had to be the ISP blocking me..
[12:53] <pppoe_dude> calloc, I am not familiar with routers, but you probably need to make sure that port 22 is forwarded to your ubuntu box, and that external connections are allowed from within your ubuntu box. Did you set up iptables recently?
[12:53] <duckblur> ywwg2: Hmm, then I'm clueless.
[12:54] <calloc> pppoe_dude, but according to them no, they ahvent
[12:54] <mwe> duckblur: the ones that choose "pages from whatever", etc?
[12:54] <duckblur> yes
[12:54] <duckblur> they aint round at all for me
[12:54] <pppoe_dude> calloc, make sure the default gateway settings are correct in firestarter, and make sure that firestarter knows exactly which interface is for LAN and which is for external
[12:54] <nuts> hello is there a way to work a exe file on linux
[12:55] <pppoe_dude> calloc, it is probably a problem with firestarter messing up uptables
[12:55] <mwe> duckblur: they look crappy here as well. I guess we could file a bug report requesting deasent radio buttons
[12:55] <ywwg2> is there some way to see what programs are accessing the disk?
[12:55] <calloc> pppoe_dude, what if i turn off firestarter altogether?
[12:55] <ywwg2> because something is churning the disk, and it would help to know which process
[12:55] <pppoe_dude> calloc, turning it off doesnt solve the problem
[12:55] <duckblur> mwe: Radio buttons, so that's what they're called...
[12:55] <mwe> duckblur: yeah
[12:55] <pppoe_dude> calloc, firestarter changes the settings statically, so that even when you shut it down, the forwarding and iptables settings are left
[12:55] <calloc> pppoe_dude, what stopping the firewall?
[12:56] <Kame> How do you change the file owner of a directory?
[12:56] <Sophant> chuckyp, i am still having that problem, any more suggestions? should i change my sound driver to alsa or something?
[12:56] <calloc> pppoe_dude, ok can I reset it some way then?
[12:56] <mwe> duckblur: I think it's firefox causing it
[12:56] <duckblur> mwe: I'd guess so.
[12:56] <pavan> @Kame: use chmod
[12:56] <_jason> Kame: chown, be careful
[12:56] <pppoe_dude> calloc, well, how many network cards do you have on the ubuntu box?
[12:56] <duckblur> mwe: You think other themes may perhaps fix it?
[12:56] <asymmetry> hey yall, got an issue
[12:56] <mwe> duckblur: they look the same in all thems I've tried :|
[12:56] <luckyshot> Ubuntu 5.10, is this the latest version?
[12:56] <duckblur> Hmm ok
[12:57] <duckblur> A pity
[12:57] <calloc> ppoe, 1 wireless * wired, not using wired tho
[12:57] <_jason> luckyshot: yes
[12:57] <pppoe_dude> calloc, make sure in the preferences window->network settings that "Internet connected interface" points to the router connected network card
[12:57] <mwe> duckblur: yeah.
[12:57] <asymmetry> trying to install ubuntu on a desktop box, but the installer keeps reporting a problem reading an installer component - however, the drive works fine for other programs, and the DVD has run successfully on other systems before.
[12:57] <luckyshot> _jason, will this os work on a p3? 733mhz and 256mb ram?
[12:57] <duckblur> A weird problem (with X I guess): When I minimize windows, it's a big black block that's minimizes instead :P
[12:58] <Sophant> my sound can only focus on one window at a time
[12:58] <Sophant> any suggestions
[12:58] <Sophant> ?
[12:58] <pppoe_dude> calloc, try flushing iptables -> "iptables --flush"
[12:58] <duckblur> Sophant: A feature as far as I know...
[12:58] <_jason> luckyshot: well minimum requirements are 256mb so it should.  If you feel it is kind of sluggish though, you should try installing the xubuntu-desktop package which uses xfce and is better for lower-end systems
[12:59] <calloc> pppoe_dude, block broadcasts from external network is blockerd, that right?
[12:59] <mwe> duckblur: well googling it seems a theme _could_ change the radio buttons ...
[12:59] <_jason> luckyshot: my fault, min reqs are actually 128mb of ram not 256
[12:59] <duckblur> mwe: Hmm. May try to make my own then...
[12:59] <mikey> go outside with the beer that you risked your life for
[12:59] <Sophant> duckblur, what makes computer programming so hard is selecting what features to remove
[12:59] <LKRaider> luckyshot: I use Breezy on my P3 600mhz with 256mb ram
[12:59] <pppoe_dude> calloc, ya. most important is the interfaces. coz firestarter always screws them up for me
[12:59] <mikey> sit on top of your monster truck
[12:59] <duckblur> Mwe: At least squares would look better :P
[12:59] <MrRio> Sophant: try using ESD as your sound system, and only using ESD-enabled apps, Im afraid its a limitation of the linux desktop is that some apps use old, nasty sound systems, like OSS
[01:00] <mwe> duckblur: heh yes
[01:00] <Sophant> MtRio, esd is what i was using
[01:00] <MrRio> Sophant:: which applications in particular are you having problems with?
[01:00] <calloc> pppoe_dude, all i have it ath0(wireless) and IPV6 tunnell (sit0)
[01:00] <Sophant> MtRio, gaim and firefox
[01:00] <luckyshot> where can i download the latest version through ftp?
[01:00] <Sophant> MrRio, gaim and firefox
[01:00] <luckyshot> i hate leeching through http
[01:00] <misfit> Hey all. Just installed ubuntu...question... where on earth is the access to root? lol
[01:00] <duckblur> misfit: no su, just sudo
[01:00] <MrRio> Sophant: the firefox flash plugin by any chance?
[01:00] <pppoe_dude> calloc, k.
[01:01] <misfit> blimey, that'll take some getting used to
[01:01] <pppoe_dude> calloc, go to network-admin and check that the gateway is eth0
[01:01] <Sophant> MrRio, mplayer seems to work
[01:01] <pppoe_dude> calloc, and both internet and LAN should be set to eth0 in firestater
[01:01] <Sophant> MrRio, exactly!
[01:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell misfit about sudo
[01:01] <duckblur> misfit: I guess, but it's good for security reasons
[01:01] <luckyshot> where can i download the latest version through ftp?
[01:01] <Sophant> MrRio, google video is where i noticed it
[01:01] <calloc> pppoe_dude, gateway is ath0, my wireless nic
[01:02] <MrRio> Sophant: the flash plugin uses the old and nasty OSS
[01:02] <misfit> Definately. I am used to Slack so this throwing me off a little..cool bot :D
[01:02] <MrRio> Sophant, http://roel.wordpress.com/2005/10/19/fix-sound-for-flash-on-ubuntu/
[01:02] <Sophant> MrRio, what ever can i do?
[01:02] <Sophant> MrRio, oh
[01:02] <pppoe_dude> calloc, hmmm. can you ping the outside from ubuntu?
[01:02] <raindog> I installed and got my winmodem working fine the other day.  Now, today it says that it can't detect it.  I have checked the lines and even put it into a new pci slot.  It still says that it can't detect it.  However, when I boot into win2kpro (on the same machine) it finds it and works fine with it.  What is up with this?  It worked fine on Ubuntu for one day and now nothing.  Can you help?
[01:02] <_jason> MrRio: it actually tries to use esd, but the file locations are hardcoded and are different in ubuntu
[01:03] <MrRio> _jason, oh i see, it seems to be fixed in dapper which im using at the moment
[01:03] <misfit> Where's my terminal \(TT_TT)/
[01:03] <calloc> pppoe_dudeping fine
[01:03] <_jason> MrRio: I believe dapper no longer uses esd by default, just alsa?  (I could be wrong)
[01:03] <luckyshot> where can i download the latest ubuntu version through ftp?
[01:04] <duckblur> misfit: Applications/Accessories/Terminal , command is "gnome-terminal" if you need it for something else
[01:04] <_jason> luckyshot: go to ubuntu.com and click on download
[01:04] <pppoe_dude> calloc, one sec.
[01:04] <luckyshot> _jason, they only have a http link, no ftp
[01:04] <misfit> Ah! thanks. I was looking under system tools lol
[01:04] <luckyshot> is there not a place i can leech through ftp?
[01:04] <misfit> the joys of ubuntu noobdom
[01:04] <misfit>  :D
[01:04] <duckblur> hehe
[01:04] <duckblur> I'm also new :P
[01:04] <misfit> To linux or ubuntu?
[01:05] <duckblur> both
[01:05] <misfit> or both :d
[01:05] <Kame> Okay, one last question. What's the command to delete something?
[01:05] <useruser> rm
[01:05] <duckblur> Kame: In console?
[01:05] <misfit> Yeah. wow! welcome!
[01:05] <MrRio> luckyshot, http://mirror.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[01:05] <mwe> duckblur: it seems you can change it if you fiddle with forms.css
[01:05] <duckblur> useruser said it then
[01:05] <Kame> duckblur: yeah
[01:05] <HHec> please.... can anyone help me here....how can i make a floppy boot disk? :(
[01:05] <MrRio> luckyshot: sorry, i meant to paste
[01:05] <pppoe_dude> calloc, try "telnet <ubuntu_box_ip> 22"
[01:06] <duckblur> mwe: Thanks, I'll look into it later
[01:06] <misfit> No root feels crazy man :D
[01:06] <pppoe_dude> calloc, or i guess <router IP>
[01:06] <duckblur> What did you use before?
[01:06] <useruser> HHec: why do you want to do that?
[01:06] <misfit> Slackware
[01:06] <duckblur> oh
[01:06] <duckblur> what made you change?
[01:06] <MrRio> ftp://mirror.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/
[01:06] <calloc> pppoe_dude, can I pm you
[01:06] <duckblur> or are you just testing?
[01:06] <pppoe_dude> calloc, sure
[01:06] <HHec> useruser:  'cause i have a pc with no boot from cd
[01:07] <misfit> I don't have much time to keep it all up to date (Autistic son and crazy life) so I thought I'd give Ubuntio a try
[01:07] <useruser> HHec: ah. i'd google for a disk image somewhere, then
[01:07] <HHec> useruser: and no lan card either
[01:07] <duckblur> As for my problem: When I minimize windows, they turn into black blocks. Is it an Nvidia-glx problem or bad xorg.conf?
[01:07] <Kame> Anyone? Command to delete something in Terminal?
[01:07] <_jason> Kame: rm
[01:07] <misfit> Ack, now I have to figure out where to stash my iptables script :-o
[01:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell Kame about cli
[01:07] <Sophant> MrRio, danke
[01:07] <_jason> Kame: be careful, there is no trashbin
[01:07] <majd> is there a bittorrent client faster than azureus? everything i download is extremely slow
[01:08] <HHec> useruser: is it the same boot image for all distros?
[01:08] <useruser> HHec: i dunno
[01:08] <useruser> HHec: maybe this is useful, not sure: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/about.html
[01:08] <luckyshot> wow
[01:08] <duckblur> majd: Most likely bad settings, or bad port forwarding.
[01:08] <misfit> ubotu: tell misfit about apt-get again cause he forgot it all :D
[01:08] <misfit> ubotu: tell misfit about apt-get
[01:09] <duckblur> I use synaptic, much easier...
[01:09] <misfit> pardon me..
[01:09] <majd> duckblur, the NAT test says it's OK, i got one download with a green face and another with a blue one
[01:09] <duckblur> misfit: System\Administration\Synaptic Package Manager if you want it in a GUI
[01:09] <HHec> useruser: thanks ....
[01:09] <useruser> HHec: also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121518
[01:10] <misfit> ta :D last time I used Deb was like 4 years ago lol
[01:10] <Sophant> MrRio, sehr danke
[01:10] <Sophant> MrRio, viel danke
[01:10] <duckblur> majd: Then i'm clueless.
[01:10] <MrRio> Sophant: lol, no problem
[01:10] <misfit> thanks duckblur :D
[01:10] <majd> duck, nvm, it just shot to 100kb/s
[01:10] <majd> first time
[01:10] <majd> lol
[01:10] <duckblur> Seems no one knows anything about my big black blocks of doom... gotta check forums then. *away*
[01:11] <raindog> Ubuntu/win2kpro box - Installed a Lucent winmodem the other day on Ubuntu and it worked great.  Today I turned the machine on and Ubuntu says that it can't detect the modem.  However, win2kpro finds it perfectly.  Can someone help me figure out what's going wrong?
[01:12] <misfit> thunderbird available through apt-get?
[01:12] <misfit> oops never mind :S
[01:13] <misfit> You ubuntu types and yer fancy guis :D
[01:13] <MrRio> hehe
[01:13] <useruser> misfit: apt-cache search
[01:13] <misfit> only 1.0.1 available?
[01:13] <misfit> thanks useruser ;D
[01:13] <na7e> hey, i noticed that smeg puts all new menu entries in the ~/.local/share/applications and ~/.local/share/desktop-directories locations.  I added a file in there manually but it isn't showing up in the menu.  Is there a way to register these icons with gnome or something?
[01:14] <duckblur> Alright. I tracked the problem somewhat, it's metacity that's causing problems for me. Can I remove it? :P
[01:14] <useruser> duckblur: apt-get remove metacity, probably
[01:14] <duckblur> What does metacity do anyways?
[01:14] <useruser> duckblur: you do want to have at least one window manager installed, though
[01:14] <rambo3> its a window manager
[01:14] <peterd> hello can anyone help me with installing the em65t-p4 kernel im having some errors when i boot it
[01:14] <useruser> duckblur: it's a window manager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager
[01:15] <luckyshot> is there not a place i can download ubuntu through ftp???
[01:15] <duckblur> Gnome doesnt have its own window manager?
[01:15] <HHec> useruser: thanks again.....bye...i'll read more carefully
[01:15] <useruser> duckblur: that's metacity :)
[01:15] <duckblur> Oh
[01:15] <pppoe_dude> Hi. please go to #linux-gender-statistics and vote "F" if you're female, and "M" if you're male thanks!
[01:15] <rambo3> whats em65-t kernel
[01:15] <duckblur> Hmm
[01:15] <useruser> duckblur: but you can use lots of different window managers with gnome
[01:15] <peterd> 2.6.11-9-em64T-p4 kernel
[01:15] <Glutinous> there's always good old twm to fall back to :P
[01:15] <duckblur> Alright, if I can't find the source of the problem I will switch to another then.
[01:15] <duckblur> Thanks
[01:16] <Pretto> galera.. me laskey
[01:16] <Pretto> to no live cd
[01:16] <na7e> pppoe_dude, the results will be thrown off by whether men or women are more likely to answer such a survey
[01:16] <Pretto> ferrou o X
[01:16] <pppoe_dude> na7e, yes
[01:16] <pppoe_dude> error
[01:17] <luckyshot> is there not a place i can download ubuntu through ftp???
[01:17] <useruser> luckyshot: why does it have to be ftp?
[01:17] <chuckyp> luckyshot, i'm sure there is.
[01:17] <peterd> the error i get on boot when i swith to that kernel is 'ismod: cant read /lib/modules/2.6.11-9-em64t-p4/kernel/drivers/video/consoltileblit.ko, no such file
[01:17] <chuckyp> luckyshot, there is also torrents availible.
[01:17] <peterd> then alert /dev/sda3 does not exist
[01:17] <peterd> and then it goes to ash
[01:17] <useruser> luckyshot: http is a more efficient protocol, i think
[01:18] <duckblur> seems the problem isnt the window manager after all, but xcompmgr...
[01:18] <mwe> duckblur: wget http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/artwork/firefox-form-widgets-ots.tar.gz <<--- this rocks !!!
[01:18] <peterd> but its says cant access tty: job control turned off
[01:18] <luckyshot> useruser is quicker, http is going 10k/s!
[01:18] <duckblur> Strange, I havent enabled composite in xorg.conf, is it gnome that is running its own?
[01:18] <mwe> duckblur: no more ugle buttons here :)
[01:18] <chuckyp> luckyshot, try a different mirror or download the torrent
[01:18] <useruser> luckyshot: you should probably search for a faster mirror
[01:18] <Munchkinguy> How do I create a link to a folder in the terminal?
[01:18] <_jason> Munchkinguy: ln -s
[01:18] <polpak> Munchkinguy, ln -s
[01:18] <Munchkinguy> thank you
[01:19] <duckblur> mwe: Not to sound totally newbish, but how do I install it?
[01:19] <duckblur> wget it, then sudo dpkg it?
[01:19] <duckblur> or... something else?
[01:19] <mwe> open a terminal an make a folder say tmp (mkdir tmp)
[01:19] <useruser> duckblur: dpkg doesn't understand .tar.gz
[01:19] <duckblur> oh
[01:19] <mwe> duckblur: open a terminal an make a folder say tmp (mkdir tmp)
[01:20] <gabbah> what filemanager is better than nautilus? And can Nautilus be skinned? The icons it has are ugly.
[01:20] <mwe> duckblur: then cd tmp and wget the file. then tar zxvf the file and read INSTALL
[01:20] <useruser> gabbah: better is a subjective word
[01:20] <gabbah> yeah
[01:20] <Mabus06> How do I make scripts for xchat?
[01:20] <gabbah> well in nautilus there's no search function
[01:20] <useruser> gabbah: there's one that looks very very similar to windows explorer, if that floats your boat
[01:20] <mwe> duckblur: it also gives the input fields a much needed makeover
[01:21] <duckblur> alright
[01:21] <duckblur> thanks
[01:21] <useruser> gabbah: really? i'm not a big nautilus user, but i find that very surprising
[01:21] <gabbah> useruser, well it doesn't have to be... i think nautilus is similiar enough when it comes to usage
[01:22] <gabbah> useruser, yeah, there's a search function for files from the menu "places" in ubuntu.. but i want it to be a part of nautilus as well
[01:22] <gabbah> useruser, gimme a link to that one you mentioned
[01:22] <duckblur> mwe: Can I just copy over the res folder (thats in the tar.gz)?
[01:22] <Arnia> gabbah: Gnome 2.14 has integrated search into Nautilus so you just need patience :)
[01:23] <duckblur> mwe: Or rather, the contents
[01:23] <useruser> gabbah: i forgot the name...
[01:23] <bimberi> gabbah: Go -> Search ??
[01:23] <duckblur> mwe: The readme was rather... confusing imo
[01:23] <Arnia> gabbah: And deskbar w/ beagle is good
[01:23] <Phuzion> How do you go about adding a user to a group?
[01:23] <Arnia> gabbah: Oh, and of course find-as-you-type for within a given folder
[01:23] <useruser> gabbah: ah, here it is. http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/
[01:23] <mwe> duckblur: I think you should make a backup of forms.css first. the other folder doesn't exist already
[01:23] <rob138> hi, how can i change grub to see a new OS that i installed?
[01:23] <Phuzion> !groups
[01:23] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Phuzion
[01:23] <gabbah> Arnia yeah that sounds good
[01:23] <useruser> gabbah: nautilus is probably much more polished, though
[01:23] <duckblur> mwe: Oh arlight... btw, what does "append" mean?
[01:23] <duckblur> alright*
[01:23] <busybreathing> gabbah nautilus 2.14 has built in search
[01:24] <mwe> duckblur: well locate the res folder of firefox have you done that?
[01:24] <polpak> Phazeman, System->Administration->users & groups
[01:24] <duckblur> not really, soon
[01:24] <polpak> Phazeman, or vigr
[01:24] <gabbah> busybreathing, is it nicer looking as well?
[01:24] <Phuzion> ubotu tell Phuzion about groups
[01:24] <mwe> duckblur: tell me when you have. maybe locate firefox/res
[01:24] <busybreathing> I think it is the same
[01:25] <starhawk> hi
[01:25] <Xenguy> duckblur: "append" means 'add to the end of'
[01:25] <Xenguy> duckblur: sudo apt-get install dict && dict append
[01:25] <useruser> gabbah: check this out. http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1013
[01:26] <duckblur> mwe: In /opt or /usr/lib?
[01:26] <mwe> are you using a custom firefox?
[01:26] <starhawk> I am tring to get win4lin I am new to this and not sure what to do or where to go
[01:26] <duckblur> 1.5
[01:26] <mwe> duckblur: did you install your own new version?
[01:26] <duckblur> Well, I didn't actually remove 1.0
[01:26] <gabbah> thanks for the suggestions guys
[01:26] <duckblur> No I took it from Automatix
[01:26] <mwe> Sunbug: then it's the one in /opt/firefox/res
[01:27] <gabbah> deskbar sounds nice Arnia
[01:27] <mwe> duckblur: then it's the one in /opt/firefox/res
[01:27] <duckblur> oh alright
[01:27] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[01:27] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[01:27] <mwe> duckblur: sudo -i to get a root prompt
[01:27] <Xenguy> starhawk: that is commercial software IIRC
[01:27] <mwe> duckblur: then cd /opt/firefox/res
[01:27] <Xenguy> starhawk: works only for win98, yes
[01:27] <Xenguy> ?
[01:28] <starhawk> not sure
[01:28] <mwe> duckblur: then cp forms.css forms.css.bak
[01:28] <ghoulee> whenever I start up my thinkpad in the dock, it redirects the video output and blanks the laptops LCD.  how do I stop this?
[01:28] <starhawk> IIrc whats that
[01:28] <grizby> Hi, I just installed Xubuntu, under the installation, I got to choose if I wanted to use eth0 or eth1 for internet, i picked eth1. Now, when Xubuntu is installed, I can't find eth0 <-- how do I activate eth0?
[01:28] <Xenguy> starhawk: if I recall correctly
[01:28] <litage> hey guys
[01:29] <mwe> duckblur: are you following?
[01:29] <litage> when i run ``sudo vi /foo/bar'' and quit, vi says "E138: Can't write viminfo file $HOME/.viminfo!". when in vi, running ":!echo $HOME" displays nothing. but su'ing to root and echo'ing $HOME displays /root . how can i fix this vi error?
[01:29] <duckblur> mwe: backed up it now as forms.css.backup
[01:29] <mwe> duckblur: good. are you inside the res folder?
[01:29] <starhawk> will it play games or am I better off with cedega
[01:30] <duckblur> mwe: more or less
[01:30] <mwe> duckblur: ?!
[01:30] <duckblur> i am
[01:30] <mwe> duckblur: are you root, have a # prompt?
[01:30] <duckblur> root... this is ubuntu XD
[01:31] <mwe> duckblur: didn't you sudo -i?
[01:31] <duckblur> no?
[01:31] <duckblur> what does -i do?
 am I better off with cedega
[01:31] <mwe> duckblur: well try that. then cd /opt/firefox/res/ again
[01:31] <grizby> Anyone knows how to get eth0 to appear? ifconfig -a only shows eth1 / lo / sit0
[01:31] <duckblur> well i am in the folder, does it matter?
[01:31] <duckblur> I can just sudo all commands
[01:31] <mwe> duckblur: sudo -i gives you a root prompt
[01:32] <mwe> duckblur: if you insist stay your own user
[01:32] <Phuzion> Anyone know how to list groups on a system?
[01:32] <student> how do I make it so that files/directories created in a samba share are owned by a specific user/group?
[01:32] <duckblur> mwe: So, I "sudo gedit forms.css" and add what the file in the tar.gz has?
[01:32] <mwe> duckblur: no
[01:33] <duckblur> no? XD
[01:33] <misfit> where do I stick my firewall script for iptables? lol
 did I lose you
[01:33] <mwe> duckblur: well you could do it like that I guess
[01:33] <Xenguy> starhawk: back
 am I better off with cedega
[01:34] <Xenguy> starhawk: it depends on what you are trying to do e.g. games? office software?  What *are* you trying to do? :-)
[01:34] <mwe> duckblur: sudo su -c 'cat /home/duckblur/firefox-form-widgets-ots/res/forms-extra.css >> forms.css' would do it though
mostly games but some apps
[01:34] <bimberi> Phuzion: cat /etc/group
[01:35] <useruser> Phuzion: sed -e 's/:.*//' /etc/group
[01:35] <bimberi> useruser: showoff :P
[01:35] <Xenguy> starhawk: for games, wine or cedega; for office stuff, wine or crossover office...
[01:35] <escobar5> hello, can you help me? i'm getting an error when i start synaptic that i didn't get before. this is the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10698
[01:35] <pavan> exit
[01:35] <Installer36> grizby > what do you get when you type in ifconfig...eth0 or eth1?
[01:35] <Phuzion> Would someone be willing to help me out with setting up my FTP server, because I can't figure it out
[01:35] <misfit> Do I stick my iptables script in init.d?
[01:35] <mwe> useruser: don't you need sed -i to edit files directly?
[01:35] <Phuzion> Preferably via private message
[01:35] <Xenguy> starhawk: cedega and crossover office are commercial; wine is free...
[01:36] <duckblur> mwe: Alright, now I just need to copy the folder, should be easy
[01:36] <mwe> duckblur: yeah. then chown -R root:root /opt/firefox/ though
what dose wine do
[01:36] <mwe> duckblur: your user shouldn't own files in there
[01:36] <Xenguy> starhawk: for wine, see also frankscorner.org (tho some stuff is getting a bit dated now)
[01:36] <Xenguy> !wine
[01:36] <mwe> duckblur: or sudo chown rather
[01:36] <Kezzer> Ok, I installed kubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu install and now don't want it
[01:37] <Xenguy> !tell starhawk about wine
[01:37] <Kezzer> I did apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop with no avail
[01:37] <bimberi> misfit: /etc/init.d/boottmisc.sh would be a good place to call it from
[01:37] <_jason> Kezzer: apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[01:37] <bimberi> misfit: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh   sorry
[01:37] <rob138> hi, can someone help me configure grub to boot my windows xp installation?
[01:37] <grizby> Installer36: I get eth1 (which was what I choosed under the installation)
[01:37] <misfit> thank bimberi :D
[01:37] <Xenguy> starhawk: crossover is based on wine, and it will run M$ Office, Photoshop, and other apps
[01:38] <useruser> bimberi: :)
[01:38] <Xenguy> starhawk: for example
[01:38] <useruser> mwe: dunno, but i'm not editing anything
[01:38] <starhawk> cool
[01:38] <bimberi> misfit: np :)
[01:38] <Kezzer> cheers _jason
[01:38] <_jason> Kezzer: by the wy, in the future you should use aptitude instead of apt-get to install.  Then your command would have worked
[01:38] <duckblur> mwe: cp says "omitting directory" when I try to copy the folder
[01:38] <escobar5> no one?
dose it run the whole windows in lunix
[01:39] <useruser> duckblur: cp -R
[01:39] <Kezzer> It wants to kill off kdm which is running on x server
[01:39] <_jason> escobar5: press the reload button
[01:39] <Kezzer> is it ok to do so?
[01:39] <mwe> duckblur: sudo cp -a
[01:39] <duckblur> -R worked
[01:40] <Kezzer> Will gdm start straight away if I stop kdm?
[01:40] <eae> !firefox1.5
[01:40] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:40] <mwe> duckblur: also sudo chown -R root:root /opt/firefox/ afterwards
[01:40] <rob138> hi, can someone help me configure grub to boot my windows xp installation? i have looked at wiki and couldnt figure it out
[01:40] <mwe> duckblur: your user should own files in there
[01:40] <misfit> have to read more about bootmisc.sh I guess... I am used to just making the script executable and whacking it in my rc.d file :-/
[01:40] <duckblur> mwe: Done
[01:40] <Phuzion> Nevermind about my FTP problem, I figured it out
[01:40] <duckblur> mwe: Now just restart it?
[01:40] <jamierlend> hello, anyone knows how to start ubuntu 5.10 without the xterm?
[01:40] <mwe> duckblur: good now try it out
[01:40] <mwe> duckblur: yeah restart ff
[01:40] <useruser> jamierlend: which xterm?
[01:40] <Xenguy> starhawk: for that you might want to look at 'vmware'
[01:40] <_jason> Kezzer: probably not but I don't know.  Why don't you try 'dpkg-reconfigure gdm' and restart X, and then remove kde
[01:41] <duckblur> mwe: Bloody devil, it works! File a complaint to the firefox team now?
[01:41] <mwe> duckblur: yeah :)
[01:41] <mwe> duckblur: it's great, right?
[01:41] <duckblur> indeed
[01:41] <duckblur> even better than before
[01:42] <Xenguy> starhawk: again, if your focus is games, you want cedega probably; otherwise crossover is cheap and will run the usual office apps, or vmware has a free product now that will run windows inside linux if you have good hardware
[01:42] <mwe> duckblur: notice the input field got a proper border now as well
[01:42] <duckblur> indeed, and the ok buttons or whatever looks good too
[01:42] <eae> I need help installing firefox 1.5.
[01:42] <Xenguy> starhawk: er, vmware is free as in no cost (not as in freedom/open source)
[01:42] <_jason> !ff1.5
[01:42] <duckblur> or maybe they always did?
[01:42] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:43] <duckblur> can't remember
[01:43] <eae> I'm not able to follow the instructions.
[01:43] <mwe> duckblur: they changed somewhat
[01:43] <duckblur> eae: Use Automatix then
[01:43] <eae> Automatix?
[01:43] <mwe> !automatix
[01:43] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[01:43] <Xenguy> !easyubuntu
[01:43] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:43] <duckblur> eae: Search on Ubuntuforums.org for it
[01:44] <ITSa341> automatix hosed my system the first time I used it
[01:44] <duckblur> I've installed all of it and it works fine for me
[01:44] <ompaul> duckblur, are you going to look after eae if it fouls up the box?
[01:44] <mwe> duckblur: it doesn't mean it's safe
[01:44] <duckblur> Only if he doesn't install nvidia drivers
[01:44] <ompaul> duckblur, we see several boxes here a week that are hosed what about the ones we don't see
[01:44] <Kezzer> well apt-get remove qtlib3-m or whatever it was didn't work
[01:44] <escobar5> _jason: thanks it worked
[01:44] <_jason> escobar5: no problemo
[01:44] <Kezzer> It killed off KDM, I had to restart and all the kubuntu stuff is still there heh =D
[01:45] <eae> Uh...
[01:45] <mwe> duckblur: my grand grand dad smoked 60 cigarettes a day. he lived to be 93. does that mean smoking 60 cigarettes a day is safe?
[01:45] <eae> No Automatix then, eh?
[01:45] <_jason> Kezzer: try removing libqt3-mt, kde cannot function without libqt3-mt
[01:45] <duckblur> Use at own risk :P
[01:45] <mwe> well goodnight all
[01:45] <eae> I'm checking out easyubuntu
[01:45] <ITSa341> easyubuntu is safer
[01:45] <_jason> Kezzer: insert an ``again'  in there somewhere :)
[01:45] <Kezzer> that's what I did _jason
[01:45] <duckblur> Easy Ubuntu is also easy...
[01:45] <duckblur> :P
[01:45] <ompaul> eae, that is a good idea :) wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is a useful reference point
[01:45] <Kezzer> ``again' =O
[01:46] <upadawan> hi, I have a problem with jack, can somebody help me plz ?
[01:46] <Kezzer> seriously, I've had this install for a week and it's screwed
[01:46] <eae> Thanks ompaul
[01:46] <Kezzer> I can't get into the login screen setup at all
[01:46] <Syrra> ?
[01:46] <Kezzer> it just won't load
[01:46] <ITSa341> is xgl possible with ubuntu yet?
[01:46] <SForan> Hello
[01:46] <Kezzer> ITSa341, it is with kapper
[01:46] <_jason> Kezzer: one thing at a time, take care of kde first
[01:46] <eae> anyone know if X-Chat has a nick completer command?
[01:46] <ITSa341> hmmm   might be time to try kapper
[01:46] <ompaul> ITSa341, not 5.10 join #ubuntu+1 to discuss it
[01:46] <_jason> eae: <tab> ?
[01:46] <majd> eae, it does, built in
[01:46] <SForan> Who would I talk to about financial support for a Ubuntu program?
[01:46] <Kezzer> _jason, my real problem is that this is the first time I've actually used linux ;)
[01:46] <ITSa341> ompaul   thx
[01:46] <eae> hehe, ok thanks :)
[01:47] <Kezzer> I have no prior linux experience so it's all a bit fun right now ;D
[01:47] <majd> just go to Settings->Preferences
[01:47] <grizby> Does anybody knows how to reconfigure the network-cards in Ubuntu?
[01:47] <_jason> Kezzer: cool
[01:47] <amphi> grizby: ifconfig
[01:47] <ITSa341> Kezzer   welcome to the community
[01:47] <cubikdice> oin #init
[01:47] <darnell__> whats a good vpn client?
[01:47] <grizby> amphi: ifconfig only gives me eth1 when I type "ifconfig -a" - I want it to find eth0 too
[01:48] <Kezzer> Cheers =)
[01:48] <darnell__> i tried kvpn it just sits there
[01:48] <Installer36> grizby.> is this a wireless card?
[01:48] <ITSa341> xgl rocks, I just tried it with kororaa
[01:48] <Kezzer> How do I find out if either kdm or gdm is running?
[01:48] <grizby> Installer36: No, it's an 10/100 ethernet-card
[01:48] <misfit> how do find out which package provides libstdc++.so.5?
[01:48] <SForan> Who would I talk to about financial support for a Ubuntu program?
[01:48] <_jason> Kezzer: ps aux | grep gdm
[01:49] <Xenguy> misfit: apt-file search libstdc++.so.5
[01:49] <amphi> grizby: what card is it? try lspci if you don't know
[01:49] <nickrud> misfit, ubuntu provides a tool at http://packages.ubuntu.com which does that
[01:49] <bimberi> SForan: canonical.com
[01:49] <earthen> anyone know how to make firefox use mplayer plugin rather than totem
[01:49] <misfit> thanks guys :D
[01:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell earthen about replacetotem
[01:49] <eae> "(easyubuntu.py:(easyubuntu.py:29224): libglade-WARNING **: unknown property `urgency_hint' for class `GtkWindow'
[01:49] <eae> "
[01:49] <duckblur> What's the apt-get command to uninstall stuff?
[01:49] <eae> What does that mean?
[01:49] <SForan> bimberi: Thanks
[01:49] <_jason> duckblur: apt-get remove
[01:49] <grizby> amphi: eth0 is: "Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)"
[01:49] <bimberi> duckblur: apt-get remove <package>
[01:49] <bimberi> SForan: yw
[01:49] <duckblur> hmm
[01:50] <Xenguy> misfit: if apt-file isn't yet installed, then do this first:  sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[01:50] <duckblur> weird
[01:50] <amphi> grizby: modprobe 8139too should work
[01:50] <duckblur> Appearantly my problem is xcompmgr... but I don't have it
[01:50] <duckblur> XD
[01:50] <Kezzer> _jason, kezzer@kezzer:~$ sudo apt-get remove qtlib3-mt
[01:50] <Kezzer> Password:
[01:50] <Kezzer> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:50] <eae> Anyone?
[01:50] <earthen> _jason, thanks since i all ready have mplayer installed will i have to do a reinstall
[01:50] <misfit> Yeah, installing it migh help! lol :D
[01:50] <j1p> Does anyone know how to get the smbmount command not ask me for my password when I run it as a normal user?
[01:50] <Kezzer> *lost* heh
[01:50] <_jason> earthen: no
[01:50] <_jason> Kezzer: umm try what it suggests
[01:50] <earthen> _jason,  thanks
[01:51] <asymmetry> Kezzer: enter your password
[01:51] <amphi> grizby: if it does, you can do echo 8139too | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[01:51] <amphi> grizby: that'll cause the module to load at boot time
[01:51] <asymmetry> Kezzer: sudo executes the command as root, but it uses YOUR (kezzer) password for authentication
[01:51] <Kezzer> asymmetry, I did enter the password and I do know all about sudo ;D
[01:52] <grizby> amphi: Is it supposed to appear when I type "ifconfig -a" after I have typed "modprobe 8139too" ?
[01:52] <amphi> grizby: yeah
[01:52] <asymmetry> Kezzer: Mkay. Could just be graceful about it and say 'thanks'.
[01:52] <Kezzer> thanks =D
[01:52] <ipfaff> hhahahha
[01:52] <asymmetry> Kezzer: Good job. Cockiness doesn't become you. Or anyone.
[01:52] <Kezzer> I wasn't having a go whatsoever
[01:52] <Kezzer> I think you've completely misinterpreted me
[01:52] <grizby> amphi: Then it doesn't work :( I want to thank you all for the support so far!
[01:52] <_jason> come on he gave you a smiley
[01:52] <Kezzer> I'm not being cocky in any way
[01:53] <earthen> _jason thanks alot that worked like a charm so easy when you get the right info LOL
[01:53] <Kezzer> I put smilies there because I find my lack of knowledge in this area funny to the point that i need to learn the ultimate basics
[01:53] <_jason> earthen: yep that's always the hardest part
[01:53] <amphi> grizby: you did do 'sudo modprobe 8139too' ?
[01:53] <Kezzer> If I were to be cocky towards someone I'd use english in a negative way, which I'm not =)
[01:53] <grizby> amphi: yes, ofcourse
[01:54] <Kezzer> Now, I think I should fix this tomorrow as it's late, g'night, and thanks for all the help =)
[01:54] <grizby> amphi: "sudo modprobe 8139too" - I didn't get any response when I typed it, just a newline
[01:54] <amphi> grizby: strange, 8139too has worked for me with a variety of 8139-based cards - what about modprobe 8139cp ?
[01:54] <dan> How do I add Urdu Keyboard?
[01:54] <amphi> grizby: no respone means it worked ;)
[01:54] <jmcnutt> hi a quick question please!!, is there any difference if I install dapper flight 5 from the liveCD instead of the installCD??
[01:55] <amphi> grizby: tru sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[01:55] <amphi> grizby: er, try
[01:55] <dan> I followed directions provided on this page but I am seeing errors https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UrduKeyboard?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29
[01:55] <grizby> amphi: "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[01:55] <duckblur> question
[01:55] <perezidentt> i have a pretty huge problem, I wanted to reinstall apache so I did "whereis apache2" and deleted all the directories and files where apache2 was. Then As the first time I installed it, I did sudo apt-get install apache2 and it says it installed but its not on my drive. I did whereis apache2 and it just says apache2: and thats it
[01:55] <duckblur> what's gconf, and how do I access it?
[01:55] <jmcnutt> hi a quick question please!!, is there any difference if I install dapper flight 5 from the liveCD instead of the installCD??
[01:55] <amphi> grizby: wtf? what does ifconfig -a show now?
[01:55] <dan> Does any one knows how to add a keyboard layout??
[01:55] <gabbah> anhyone here using Valknut as DC client? It's driving me made with it's multidownload!
[01:56] <_jason> !dapper
[01:56] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:56] <nalioth> jmcnutt: a fresh install? no difference at all afaik
[01:56] <grizby> amphi: ifconfig -a still only gives me eth1 / lo / sit0
[01:56] <jmcnutt> nalioth, thanks
[01:56] <gabbah> dan try system >preferences > Keyboard
[01:56] <raindog> How do I create a new file?  I need to create a file to autoload my modem driver apparrently.
[01:56] <nalioth> jmcnutt: but yes, #ubuntu+1 is the place to discuss this
[01:56] <amphi> grizby: it can be useful to tail -f /var/log/syslog in another term to see any useful messages while mucking about with modprobe
[01:56] <OoAzzAoO> hey everyone... what's the option i pass in my fstab to allow all users to modify/execute a partition?  (reiser)
[01:56] <dan> gabbah I did but it doesnt ask me to define my own keyboard layout from a text file
[01:56] <duckblur> nevermind
[01:56] <duckblur> found it
[01:57] <gabbah> dan i dunno, i'm new to this too
[01:57] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: mind that i clean out some inappropriate ubotu factoids?
[01:57] <Disorganized> firefox: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23558147@N00/110129102/
[01:58] <raindog> Also, I need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but when I do sudo -s , then nano to open and edit the file it is just blank.  Can you help this clueless newb?
[01:58] <amphi> grizby: like I said, 8139too has worked for me for every rt8139 card I've used; perhaps try modprobe -r 8139too and then modprobe 8139cp
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> !forget english
[01:58] <ubotu> i forgot english, hyperactivecrond
[01:58] <grizby> amphi: what irritates me the most is that Ubuntu asked me under the installation if I wanted to use eth0 or eth1 for my internet connection.
[01:58] <misfit> how do I upgrade fire fox to 1.5 from apt? is that possible?
[01:58] <themachine> what sort of a file system would a compact flash card have? I'm trying to mount it
[01:58] <OoAzzAoO> vfat?
[01:59] <amphi> fat12? ;)
[01:59] <protocol1> misfit
[01:59] <protocol1> !ff1.5
[01:59] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:00] <themachine> hmm vfat didn't work, trying fat12
[02:00] <perezidentt> i have a pretty huge problem, I wanted to reinstall apache so I did "whereis apache2" and deleted all the directories and files where apache2 was. Then As the first time I installed it, I did sudo apt-get install apache2 and it says it installed but its not on my drive. I did whereis apache2 and it just says apache2: and thats it
[02:00] <misfit> thanks :"D
[02:00] <protocol1> that shows you how to update it
[02:00] <amphi> themachine: fat12 was a joke
[02:00] <themachine> ha
[02:00] <chuckyp> perezidentt, why don't you sudo apt-get --purge remove apache
[02:00] <chuckyp> perezidentt, that will get rid of it.  Then you can install whatever you want.
[02:00] <_jason> perezidentt: try apt-get install --reinstall apache2, and to remove things you do apt-get remove, not delete files :)
[02:01] <duckblur> Okay, I solved my minimize problem, by disabling the animation
[02:01] <JonathanKent> I need the readline library where i can install?
[02:01] <OoAzzAoO> anyone know the options to pass in fstab that will allow all users to rwx? i'm using reiser
[02:01] <chuckyp> JonathanKent, what are you looking for try apt-cache search <packagename>
[02:01] <GeistDerZeit> Hi dudes. I'm really concerned that i screwed up my system. I tried to install vmware and now i can't use sudo. Even for trying again the install, this time following the steps i later found on the wiki (i hadn't applied the patches to vmware the first time)... some advice?
[02:02] <raindog> misfit:  also see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79283
[02:02] <JonathanKent> ok
[02:03] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[02:03] <perezidentt> Reading package lists... Done
[02:03] <perezidentt> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:03] <perezidentt> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[02:03] <perezidentt>   apache2
[02:03] <perezidentt> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:03] <ITSa341> bbiab  windows service call      yuck
[02:03] <perezidentt> Need to get 0B/35.0kB of archives.
[02:03] <perezidentt> After unpacking 81.9kB of additional disk space will be used.
[02:03] <eae> Could someone please tell me what this is:
[02:03] <eae> (easyubuntu.py:(easyubuntu.py:29224): libglade-WARNING **: unknown property `urgency_hint' for class `GtkWindow'
[02:03] <perezidentt> Preconfiguring packages ...
[02:03] <perezidentt> Selecting previously deselected package apache2.
[02:03] <_jason> perezidentt: don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:03] <perezidentt> (Reading database ... 124140 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:03] <perezidentt> Unpacking apache2 (from .../apache2_2.0.54-5ubuntu4_i386.deb) ...
[02:03] <gabbah> is there some keyboard shortcut program?
[02:03] <perezidentt> Setting up apache2 (2.0.54-5ubuntu4) ...
[02:03] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$ whereis apache2
[02:03] <perezidentt> apache2:
[02:03] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$
[02:03] <perezidentt> woops
[02:03] <perezidentt> i meant to paste bin that
[02:03] <_jason> eae: try asking in #easyubuntu
[02:03] <GeistDerZeit> How can i become root without issuing sudo su -?
[02:03] <eae> Ok
[02:04] <raindog> I'm following these instructions but I don't know how to make a new file or edit an existing one.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=forum%2Fhardware%2Flucent#head-cc17ea0ff3df391406e74527f1aed569be04709f
[02:04] <amphi> gabbah: that's up to the wm normally
[02:04] <FliesLikeABrick> GeistDerZeit  sudo -i
[02:04] <perezidentt> http://pastebin.com/619188
[02:04] <bimberi> GeistDerZeit: sudo -i  (although i suspect that's not what you want)
[02:04] <gabbah> oh
[02:04] <useruser> raindog: use gedit
[02:04] <JonathanKent> @find readline
[02:04] <grizby> amphi: That last command you gave me killed eth1 too ;)
[02:04] <raindog> useruser:  thanks.
[02:04] <FliesLikeABrick> bimberi  I think that is exactly what he wants, judging by what he had been using before
[02:04] <GeistDerZeit> No, cause sudo is not responding
[02:04] <OoAzzAoO> what's wrong with just su -
[02:04] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: see :)
[02:05] <FliesLikeABrick> OoAzzAoO I guess he doesn't have a root password set?
[02:05] <GeistDerZeit> There isn't any other way to get root, without using sudo?
[02:05] <GeistDerZeit> No
[02:05] <eae> Can someone tell me what to do about this:
[02:05] <eae> (gnome-terminal:29781): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[02:05] <FliesLikeABrick> GeistDerZeit  do you have a root password set?
[02:05] <GeistDerZeit> No
[02:05] <FliesLikeABrick> eae can you tell us wha you're trying to do?
[02:05] <JonathanKent> !find readline
[02:05] <OoAzzAoO> boot with another cd and mount your paritions... manually run the passwd command
[02:05] <amphi> grizby: heh - what is eth1?
[02:05] <grizby> amphi: I'm wondering, if the installation program can find the NIC's instantly, why can't Ubuntu? Can I somehow reconfigure my NIC's?
[02:05] <eae> FliesLikeABrick, I'm not sure, hold on.
[02:05] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah GeistDerZeit   you need to use a livecd to do what OoAzzAoO  said
[02:06] <FliesLikeABrick> grizby  what problem are you having, and have you checked /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:06] <perezidentt> http://pastebin.com/619188
[02:06] <eae> FliesLikeABrick, I get that when trying to install everything using easyubuntu
[02:06] <perezidentt> http://pastebin.com/619188 how does it not know where apache2 is if it's installed?
[02:06] <grizby> amphi: eth1 is "Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10)" (the card that handles the internet)
[02:06] <FliesLikeABrick> eae  are you trying to run it as root from the terminal?
[02:07] <GeistDerZeit> So i've to quit this session, use a Live CD to set root passwd in this Ubuntu install?
[02:07] <chuckyp> perezidentt, updatedb maybe?
[02:07] <perezidentt> chuckyp: what?
[02:07] <chuckyp> perezidentt, try sudo updatedb  at a shell
[02:07] <FliesLikeABrick> yes GeistDerZeit
[02:07] <chuckyp> perezidentt, it will take a few minutes to run
[02:07] <chuckyp> perezidentt, then you should be able to use whereis
[02:07] <amphi> grizby: what driver does that use?
[02:07] <perezidentt> what is that?
[02:07] <perezidentt> chuckyp: what is that?
[02:07] <Amaranth> GeistDerZeit: On x86 you can boot in recovery mode
[02:07] <Amaranth> GeistDerZeit: choose it from the grub boot menu
[02:07] <grizby> FliesLikeABrick: Yes I have checked /etc/network/interfaces - the thing is, I cant get eth0 to work
[02:07] <useruser> GeistDerZeit: can't you just run sudo passwd root ?
[02:07] <Amaranth> GeistDerZeit: that gives you root
[02:07] <grizby> amphi: How do I check that?
[02:08] <Amaranth> useruser: I think he broke sudo
[02:08] <FliesLikeABrick> grizby  how many NICs do you have in your computer, and do you have firewire?
[02:08] <useruser> Amaranth: ah
[02:08] <FliesLikeABrick> perezidentt  try apt-get remove --purge apache2 then try reinstalling in a separate command
[02:08] <grizby> FliesLikeABrick: I got 2 NICs, and no firewire
[02:08] <GeistDerZeit> Humm. Ok, i will try the grub way, cause my sudo isn't working any more.
[02:08] <FliesLikeABrick> ok grizby are there lines for both interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:08] <Phlosten> grizby, is your sound working?
[02:09] <Fankach> Hi, I've just set up Ubuntu successfuly, but I still got to configure the MODEM Driver! I've already put an archive into a Windows Partition! How can I please access the Windows Partitions runing Ubunto?
[02:09] <misfit> Okay I have my script for Iptables. where do I place it for it to start at boot up?
[02:09] <chuckyp> perezidentt, do info updatedb to read about it.
[02:09] <FliesLikeABrick> misfit you need to create a local  init script to run iptables-restore < /your/path/to/iptables/script
[02:09] <chuckyp> perezidentt, it updates the slocate database so you can use locate and whereis.
[02:09] <perezidentt> info updatedb
[02:09] <amphi> grizby: I don't see how modprobe -r 8139too would have taken down your iface; if the iface is up and using the module, modprobe -r should abort with an error
[02:09] <perezidentt> oh
[02:09] <grizby> FliesLikeABrick: yes there is. The thing is that I can't load the other NIC, it says: ...
[02:09] <FliesLikeABrick> misfit do sudo nano /etc/init.d/local, put that line in there, then do sudo update-rc.d local defaults 20
[02:09] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$ sudo updatedb
[02:09] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$ whereis apache2
[02:09] <perezidentt> apache2:
[02:09] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$
[02:10] <FliesLikeABrick> perezidentt  please use pastebin
[02:10] <chuckyp> perezidentt, no in terminal if you type info or man updatedb it will bring up the manual pages for it.
[02:10] <gabbah> amphi, so.... i'm using the keyboard shortcut manager... trying to make it possible to pause and unpause xmms. i set a key but it's not working? suggestions?
[02:10] <chuckyp> perezidentt, try whereis apache
[02:10] <misfit> Okay :D thanks!
[02:10] <grizby> amphi: HEY! Now - after rebooting the computer since eth1 stopped working, both eth0 and eth1 exists in ifconfig!
[02:10] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$ whereis apache
[02:10] <perezidentt> apache:
[02:10] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:~$
[02:10] <grizby> amphi: I don't get this at all.
[02:10] <chuckyp> hrm...
[02:10] <FliesLikeABrick> misfit  you should also put #! /bin/sh at the beginning of /etc/init.d/local
[02:10] <FliesLikeABrick> perezidentt  please stop pasting multi-line pastes in here
[02:10] <chuckyp> perezidentt, did you try following the wiki for installation?
[02:10] <amphi> grizby: it loaded the module for the card - what does lsmod | grep 8139 show? anything?
[02:10] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell perezidentt  about flood
[02:11] <misfit> gotcha :D
[02:11] <eae> How do I run easyunbuntu after I've closed it?
[02:11] <chuckyp> !tell perezidentt about lamp
[02:11] <Fankach> Will somebody help please?
[02:11] <useruser> perezidentt: apache is probably just not in your path
[02:11] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell Fankach about ask
[02:11] <useruser> perezidentt: try ls /etc/init.d/*apache*
[02:11] <amphi> grizby: as long as you don't unload the module, the iface should continue to exist ;)
[02:12] <FliesLikeABrick> perezidentt  may I ask why you're trying to find the apache installation
[02:12] <Fankach> [01:09]  <Fankach> Hi, I've just set up Ubuntu successfuly, but I still got to configure the MODEM Driver! I've already put an archive into a Windows Partition! How can I please access the Windows Partitions runing Ubunto?
[02:12] <Abnix> what do I have to do to be able to play a dvd video on my ubuntu rig?
[02:12] <grizby> amphi: yes it does, it gives me three lines: "8139cp                 18432  0" - "8139too                23552  0" and lastly "mii                     5248  2 8139cp,8139too"
[02:12] <_jason> !dvd
[02:12] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:12] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell Abnix  about dvd
[02:12] <Phlosten> Abnix, you need libdvdcss2
[02:12] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell FliesLikeABrick about ntfs
[02:12] <grizby> amphi: and ifconfig says that eth0 has "192.168.0.1" which is just what I want it to say!
[02:12] <useruser> Abnix: try easyubuntu
[02:12] <perezidentt> FliesLikeABrick: Im trying to find it so I can know where the config files etc are
[02:12] <eae> Anyone?
[02:12] <amphi> grizby: yeah, both 8139 modules depend on mii
[02:13] <raindog> I'm trying to edit a file under /boot/grub/  It wont' let me make an edit.  How can I edit and save this file?
[02:13] <perezidentt> chuckyp: I did look at wiki but how am I supposed to edit the files if i cant find them
[02:13] <eae> How do I get easyubuntu back on after I've closed it?
[02:13] <amphi> grizby: rejoice! ;)
[02:13] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell Fankach  about ntfs
[02:13] <_jason> perezidentt: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:13] <amphi> grizby: presumably it's being configured out of /etc/network/interfaces
[02:13] <grizby> amphi: I would be very happy if I knew what happened, what it was that kicked eth0 back in to the system
[02:13] <amphi> grizby: or rather, what made it disappear in the first place
[02:14] <perezidentt> _jason that doesnt exist...
[02:14] <FliesLikeABrick> perezidentt  did you install apache or apache2?
[02:14] <ispiked> why doesn't dpkg --set-selections take an arg? how do I pass it a file?
[02:14] <useruser> perezidentt: what does apt-cache policy apache2 say ?
[02:14] <_jason> perezidentt: even after apt-get install --reinstall apache2?
[02:14] <perezidentt> FilesLikeABrick: both
[02:14] <useruser> ispiked: pass it on standard input
[02:14] <Phlosten> grizby, have you tried adding 'acpi=off' to kernel boot parameters?
[02:14] <ispiked> useruser: how is that done?
[02:14] <grizby> amphi: yeah, that too :) Can I trust the system that both the NIC's will be found on the next system startup?
[02:14] <useruser> ispiked: as in dpkg --set-selections < saved-selections
[02:15] <ispiked> useruser: ah. thanks.
[02:15] <useruser> ispiked: where saved-selections is the filename
[02:15] <Fankach> !tell FliesLikeABrick enough
[02:15] <grizby> Phlosten: No, I haven't what does it mean?
[02:15] <perezidentt> useruser: http://pastebin.com/619204
[02:15] <amphi> grizby: I would expect so
[02:15] <dj-fu> does anyone know how to configure mplayer so it's the default application for movies etc?
[02:15] <perezidentt> _jason: yes even after apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[02:15] <Phlosten> grizby, i found that with my system I had to boot with the option to get any networking to work and also to get sound to work
[02:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell dj-fu about defaultapp
[02:15] <litage> i ran vim with ``sudo vi /foo/bar''. when quitting, vim says "E138: Can't write viminfo file $HOME/.viminfo!". i straced it and found this:  "vi.strace:2386:open("$HOME/.viminfo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)"  i think the problem is that $HOME isn't interpolating /home/user . how can i fix this?
[02:15] <chuckyp> perezidentt, also next time you try to remove an application use apt-get remove <packagename> rather than deleting  arbitrary files.  You can even use apt-get --purge remove <packagename> to get rid configs etc..
[02:16] <amphi> dj-fu: I just always type mplayer whatever, and lo! it is my default playewr ;)
[02:16] <perezidentt> chuckyp: well what should I do now?
[02:16] <_jason> perezidentt: weird... try remove and then install maybe... other than that I don;t know
[02:16] <ispiked> useruser: once I do that, do I just need to run dpkg update?
[02:16] <useruser> perezidentt: ok, how about dpkg -L apache2 ? that should show all the files installed in that package
[02:16] <useruser> ispiked: i think so, but i'm working from memory here
[02:16] <grizby> Phlosten: Okay, I will keep it in mind, but sound is not important though, this machine will act as a router and webserver and some other stuff
[02:17] <chuckyp> perezidentt, well first I would remove the original apache you semi deleted.
[02:17] <Phlosten> grizby, doing that has fixed countless other ubuntu users network problems
[02:17] <perezidentt> useruser: http://pastebin.com/619211
[02:17] <grizby> amphi: Thank you very much for your help! I have been fighting this problem 4-5 hours now, before I found this channel
[02:18] <amphi> grizby: it's strange that just modprobing 8139too didn't make it work
[02:18] <grizby> Phlosten: I'll write it down, I would suspect that I will encounter some more problems before it all is up and running :)
[02:18] <JonathanKent> !find AbRaHaM
[02:18] <raindog> I'm trying to edit a file and Ubuntu won't let me.  How can I make the edit?
[02:18] <JonathanKent> !find tclConfig.sh
[02:18] <ross_> Hi all.
[02:18] <FliesLikeABrick> raindog  perhaps it is a file you need to edit as sudo
[02:18] <useruser> perezidentt: looks wonky to me
[02:18] <FliesLikeABrick> or rather raindog  as root/with sudo
[02:18] <ross_> I'm running Breezy, and the update icon keeps popping up, but when I click it, it says that it can't get an exclusive lock.
[02:18] <grizby> amphi: Yeah, I guess it must have corrected itself when I rebooted the computer after loosing eth1 when i typed "modprobe -r ..."
[02:19] <ross_> And I'm not running any other APT software.
[02:19] <JonathanKent> !find tcl
[02:19] <perezidentt> useruser: I did what you said and still nothing
[02:19] <raindog> FliesLikeABrick:  I have tried sudo gedit to open the file.  I'll try again.
[02:19] <perezidentt> chuckyp: I did what you said and still nothing
[02:19] <FliesLikeABrick> ross_  in a terminal try "ps aux | grep apt"
[02:19] <perezidentt> FliesLikeABrick: I did what you said and still nothing
[02:19] <_jason> JonathanKent: you don't need the bot for that, just install apt-file and issue 'sudo apt-file update' and then 'apt-file search blah'
[02:19] <chuckyp> perezidentt, what are you trying to do?  just edit the apache2.conf?
[02:19] <ross_> FliesLikeABrick, Ok, what now?
[02:19] <amphi> grizby: that's strange too - even if the 'Accton' card is 8139-based, if the interface was up, modprobe should not have removed the module;or was eth1 not up?
[02:20] <chuckyp> I've lost track
[02:20] <perezidentt> chuckyp: find out where apache2 is, and apache2.conf also
[02:20] <FliesLikeABrick> what, ross_ ?
[02:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'AbRaHaM' returned no results.
[02:20] <FliesLikeABrick> oh sorry ross_
[02:20] <useruser> perezidentt: ah, ok
[02:20] <FliesLikeABrick> ross_  does it show anything running that is using apt?
[02:20] <ross_> FliesLikeABrick, Only thing that shows up is grep apt
[02:20] <FliesLikeABrick> k ross_  good
[02:20] <ross_> FliesLikeABrick, But its still locked.
[02:20] <useruser> perezidentt: apache2 is a dummy package, i think. you need one of the apache2-mpm- packages listed here installed as well : http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/apache2
[02:20] <perezidentt> useruser: the first time i installed it, it was in /etc/apache2 but now its not
[02:21] <grizby> amphi: eth1 was up, it's my internet connection, after typing -r, my internet connection died, and ifconfig only showed "lo" - so I rebooted the computer
[02:21] <chuckyp> perezidentt, if you start fresh and remove whatever you installed and follow the lamp wiki for installing apache you should be find.
[02:21] <FliesLikeABrick> ross_  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73990
[02:21] <FliesLikeABrick> ross_  if nothing is running, it should be safe to delete the lock file.  check that thread for some information
[02:21] <ross_> FliesLikeABrick, What's the lock file?
[02:22] <useruser> perezidentt: try apt-get install apache2-mpm-worker
[02:22] <MrCollins> what.lock
[02:22] <phrowzen> hmm
[02:22] <phobos> how do i enable an hsf modem to work without doing a kernel compile? thanks
[02:22] <chuckyp> useruser, he doesn't need that to install apache
[02:22] <useruser> chuckyp: no?
[02:22] <phrowzen> my x server just crashed.. any idea where i can look for a while that tells me why? Xorg.0.log.old says nothing
[02:22] <ross_> FliesLikeABrick, What's the path and filename of the lock file to delete?
[02:22] <phrowzen> for a file*
[02:22] <Abnix> hmm, now if I wanted to run a command at startup, say like hdparm, where would I put it?
[02:22] <bsdfox> phobos, there are lots of howtos online
[02:22] <MrCollins> phrowzen tried /etc?
[02:22] <raindog> Thanks for the help everyone, but I give up for tonight.
[02:22] <chuckyp> phobos, is that a winmodem?
[02:22] <phrowzen> MrCollins, what in /etc? ;\
[02:23] <phobos> chuckyp, yes i think so
[02:23] <chuckyp> !tell phobos about winmodem
[02:23] <phrowzen> i thought /etc was mostly configuration
[02:23] <chuckyp> phobos, chceck the mesage fromt he bot.
[02:23] <chuckyp> phrowzen, it is.
[02:23] <MrCollins> try /etc/log
[02:23] <useruser> /var/log ?
[02:23] <phobos> chuckyp, tnx
[02:23] <chuckyp> MrCollins, phrowzen /var/log maybe
[02:23] <ross_> FliesLikeABrick, I deleted /var/cache/apt/arcives/lock, but its still locked.
[02:23] <MrCollins> i meant var lol
[02:23] <MrCollins> sorry
[02:23] <MrCollins> im tired
[02:23] <phrowzen> yeah.. i checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old and nothing in there :(
[02:23] <amphi> grizby: hmmm... that suggests that Accton is 8139-based; actually, modprobe does unload the module even if the interface is up, I just tested
[02:23] <chuckyp> ross_, what is locked apt-get when you use it?
[02:23] <phrowzen> theres no other files that really seem applicable
[02:24] <chuckyp> ross_, try closing synaptic or update manager then trying again.
[02:24] <FliesLikeABrick> sorry ross I'm not sure where the lock file is located
[02:24] <FliesLikeABrick> chuckyp  he has
[02:24] <ross_> chuckyp, I did.
[02:24] <phrowzen> hmm wait syslog
[02:24] <FliesLikeABrick> chuckyp  it seems to be a bug in update-notifier where it does not properly remove the lock after it does its own apt-get update
[02:24] <misfit> hmm, okay. how about other scripts I want to fire up at boot time. where do I put those/ how do I like to those?
[02:24] <chuckyp> ross_, well maybe there is a hung process try ps aux | grep update or something to find the notifier.
[02:24] <FliesLikeABrick> misfit  the same way we just created the local script
[02:24] <ross_> ...
[02:24] <phrowzen> Mar 23 20:20:45 localhost gconfd (phrowzen-5180): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly Mar 23 20:20:45 localhost gconfd (phrowzen-5180): Exiting Mar 23 20:20:45 localhost gdm[4393] : Error reinitilizing server
[02:24] <chuckyp> ross_, other than that a reboot would fix it.
[02:24] <perezidentt> useruser: so what should I do after I install apache2-mpm-worker?
[02:25] <perezidentt> chuckyp: so what should I do after i install apache2-mpm-worker?
[02:25] <misfit> Oh, hah, yeah, just a simple executable shell?
[02:25] <ross_> chuckyp, I feel somewhat insulted that you think I haven't tried that already.
[02:25] <FliesLikeABrick> chuckyp  we have done that already
[02:25] <chuckyp> perezidentt, I have no idea what apache2-mpm-worker is for
[02:25] <misfit> don't I look smart now lol
[02:25] <grizby> amphi: I want to thank you big time. I would guess you have saved me several hours of banging my head on the keyboard.
[02:25] <perezidentt> chuckyp: nvm I got it thx!
[02:25] <perezidentt> useruser: nvm I got it thx!
[02:25] <chuckyp> ross_, I dunno what you have tried i haven't been following it.
[02:25] <ross_> ...
[02:25] <perezidentt> FilesLikeABrick: You too! lol
[02:26] <FliesLikeABrick> you're welcome perezidentt
[02:26] <chuckyp> ross_, or your level of knowledge.  hrm so what is the exact error you are getting do you have a pastebin?
[02:26] <grizby> amphi: well, it's 2:25 am here in sweden, so I better get some sleep! Thank you one last time! :D
[02:26] <FliesLikeABrick> just a moment ross_  i'm trying to find out where the lock file is
[02:27] <amphi> grizby: 'night
[02:27] <perezidentt> useruser: juston@nixbox:/var$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:27] <perezidentt> juston@nixbox:/var why dident it reload it?
[02:27] <misfit> Nicely done :D thanks Flieslikeabrick!
[02:27] <perezidentt> chuckyp: juston@nixbox:/var$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:27] <misfit> that is automatically loaded at boot time then?
[02:27] <perezidentt> chuckyp: juston@nixbox:/var$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart **** it dident do anything
[02:28] <perezidentt> FliesLikeABrick: juston@nixbox:/var$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it dident do anything
[02:28] <FliesLikeABrick> misfit  be sure to make sure that you have set u+x on all scripts that you're trying to run at boot time
[02:28] <IamEthos> okay
[02:28] <IamEthos> this is driving me crazy
[02:28] <FliesLikeABrick> perezidentt try /etc/init.d/apache2 stop and then start
[02:28] <ross_> FliesLikeABrick, Nevermind, turns out that dpkg was interrupted.  Thanks for the help!
[02:28] <ross_> You too, chuckyp.
[02:28] <FliesLikeABrick> np ross_
[02:29] <IamEthos> everytime I boot now, the file system check fails
[02:29] <misfit> FliesLikeABrick. Yeah, make the script (local) and the other scripts executable
[02:29] <IamEthos> because I tried to convert an ext3 drive to fat32
[02:29] <FliesLikeABrick> IamEthos  can you give us more information about the failure?
[02:29] <renato> .:..:.Snsv.:..:.
[02:29] <renato> hi
[02:29] <perezidentt> FliesLIkeABrick: I doesnt do anything though, it just goes to a black prompt
[02:29] <nikko> hi... I just installed ubuntu, but it seems that my sound does not work... how to be sure?
[02:29] <FliesLikeABrick> what do you mean "a black prompt" ?
[02:30] <crimsun> nikko: what sound card?
[02:30] <FliesLikeABrick> nikko can you tell us about what sound card ?
[02:30] <IamEthos> FliesLikeABrick: the partition is on an IDE hard drive in an external usb enclosure
[02:30] <FliesLikeABrick> IamEthos  what does it say when it "fails" ?
[02:30] <nikko> how to check that?
[02:30] <renato> i`d miss selected the wrong keyboard in the instalation list, I`d like to change my keyboard to `abnt2 brazil encoding`  any ideas?
[02:30] <IamEthos> I tried to convert it to Fat32 using gparted
[02:30] <FliesLikeABrick> nikko  lspci
[02:30] <crimsun> nikko: is the computer new?
[02:30] <donza> for some reason all my console based programs have started to use network proxy
[02:30] <FliesLikeABrick> renato do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:30] <IamEthos> it fails when the boot screen says "Checking File Systems"
[02:30] <donza> how can i change this
[02:31] <IamEthos> and then asks me to run fsck
[02:31] <nikko> AC 97 familiy
[02:31] <renato> thanks flies
[02:31] <IamEthos> and then says that THAT is not safe to do on a mounted file system
[02:31] <FliesLikeABrick> IamEthos do you have a livecd, or do you have the ability to burn one?
[02:31] <IamEthos> I have one
[02:31] <crimsun> nikko: pastebin ``lspci -v'' as FliesLikeABrick asked
[02:31] <FliesLikeABrick> boot that and do the fsck from it IamEthos
[02:31] <IamEthos> I can boot to ubuntu though
[02:31] <FliesLikeABrick> yes IamEthos  but we need to run fsck while the partition is not mounted.  is this your root partition?
[02:32] <Cronck> naas
[02:32] <Healot> renato, if you're on GNOME, just goto System->Preferences->Keyboard
[02:32] <IamEthos> nope
[02:32] <IamEthos> it's not even on the same drive as the root
[02:32] <FliesLikeABrick> ok IamEthos  so unmount it and then we can run fsck
[02:32] <FliesLikeABrick> ah yes sorry Healot renato  I'm used to doing everything on the command line :-/
[02:33] <IamEthos> can I just select disable in disks manager?
[02:33] <FliesLikeABrick> IamEthos  that should work, or you can do sudo umount /dev/sda1 or whatever the partition is
[02:33] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm not too familiar with the GUI tools IamEthos
[02:33] <Healot> click on "Layout" tab, click "..." button, and then search for Brazil keyboard layout
[02:33] <rfmonk> whats up with getting banned, for using irssi?
[02:33] <perezidentt> useruser: When I try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop and then sudo /etc/ini.d/apache2 restart it just goes to the next line and shows my bash and it doesnt say anything
[02:33] <perezidentt> chuckyp: When I try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop and then sudo /etc/ini.d/apache2 restart it just goes to the next line and shows my bash and it doesnt say anything
[02:33] <FliesLikeABrick> rfmonk  banned from where?
[02:33] <rfmonk> here
[02:33] <perezidentt> FliesLikeABrick: When I try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop and then sudo /etc/ini.d/apache2 restart it just goes to the next line and shows my bash and it doesnt say anything
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> perezidentt ask the channel instead of highlighting people please
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell perezidentt about repeat
[02:34] <darnell__> can someone familiar with kvpnc help me?
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> rfmonk were you using irssi as root?
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell darnell__  about ask
[02:34] <misfit> What's the X version in 5.10?
[02:34] <rfmonk> no ssh
[02:34] <renato> Flies, the point is, with that command you spend 1 hour configuring mouse, monitor and other things beyond keyboard...
[02:34] <renato> thans healot too
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> yes renato  do what Healot  said
[02:34] <IamEthos> FliesLikeABrick: there's a swap partition on the disk
[02:34] <renato> flies, thanks anyway
[02:34] <IamEthos> and I can't unmount that
[02:34] <IamEthos> does that matter?
[02:35] <donza> can anyone help me with this proxy problem?
[02:35] <FliesLikeABrick> yes IamEthos it does
[02:35] <crimsun> !info xserver-xorg
[02:35] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[02:35] <crimsun> misfit: ^^
[02:35] <FliesLikeABrick> misfit  6.8.2-77
[02:35] <misfit> hehe
[02:35] <IamEthos> :-(
[02:35] <misfit> xorgz :D
[02:35] <Healot> renato, all in System->Preferences
[02:35] <darnell__> kvpnc just sits there, says its connecting but its been doing to for almost an hour, anyone know whats going on?
[02:35] <misfit> thanks mates
[02:35] <rfmonk> like i ssh'd to silence is defeat open irssi and got kicked.
[02:35] <darnell__> im just trying to connect to a friends vpn
[02:35] <IamEthos> the swap isn't the partition that I'm trying to work with
[02:35] <FliesLikeABrick> perezidentt  perhaps it restarted fine?
[02:35] <IamEthos> there are three on the disk
[02:35] <IamEthos> an NTFS, an ext3 and a swap
[02:35] <rfmonk> but can get on with xchat thats wierd
[02:35] <amphi> IamEthos: swapoff /dev/foo to 'unmount' a swap partition, FWIW
[02:36] <darnell__> or is there another vnp client i can use
[02:36] <darnell__> one with an interface
[02:36] <IamEthos> I want to make the ext3 become fat32
[02:36] <IamEthos> oh
[02:36] <IamEthos> cool
[02:36] <FliesLikeABrick> IamEthos  the volume must be unmounted in order to run fsck on it
[02:36] <useruser> perezidentt: sh -xv /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[02:36] <Healot> renato, I dont know how much you know about Ubuntu/Linux specific, I just assumed GNOME is sufficient for you??
[02:36] <perezidentt> useruser: what the heck did that do?
[02:36] <renato> Healot, i changed on preferences but it`s still old keyboard
[02:37] <perezidentt> FliesLikeABrick: no it dident work
[02:37] <useruser> perezidentt: it executes the script verbosely so that you can see what it's doing
[02:37] <Healot> renato, try to logout/login first...
[02:37] <perezidentt> useruser: want me to pastebin it, becuase i dont know what im looking for
[02:37] <renato> Healot, ok
[02:37] <useruser> perezidentt: ok
[02:37] <IamEthos> okay
[02:37] <IamEthos> swap should be off
[02:38] <Healot> hey, I forgot on the "Selected Layout" list box, enable that Brazillian keyboard first
[02:38] <amphi> IamEthos: backup the partition, mkfs -t vfat, restore
[02:38] <amphi> IamEthos: not a good idea for a linux partition, BTW
[02:38] <amphi> IamEthos: unless it's just shared data files
[02:39] <IamEthos> amphi: I need to move files between windows and Linux
[02:39] <IamEthos> I was going to use the fs-driver.org ext3 driver for windows
[02:39] <IamEthos> but I'm not sure how reliable that would be
[02:39] <perezidentt> useruser: http://pastebin.com/619244
[02:39] <IamEthos> someone told me I should do this instead
[02:40] <rfmonk> do you like, get banned for being in ubuntu+1 and ubuntu at the same time or what?
[02:40] <perezidentt> useruser: maybe becuase I dont have a site enabled?
[02:40] <amphi> IamEthos: nor I - you'd be best off to make a separate fat32 partition perhaps for the shared files
[02:40] <rfmonk> or is ssh not alloud
[02:40] <rfmonk> *allowed*
[02:40] <FliesLikeABrick> no rfmonk  none of those things will get you banned
[02:40] <rfmonk> hmm
[02:40] <FliesLikeABrick> perhaps you should speak to the person that banned you?
[02:41] <IamEthos> yeah, this is just a 5 gb go-between for files to get back and forth
[02:41] <rfmonk> ok thanks
[02:41] <crimsun> nikko: any progress?
[02:41] <nikko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10701
[02:41] <nikko> yeah... :)
[02:42] <IdleOne> rfmonk, doesnt look like your banned in #ubuntu+1
[02:42] <IamEthos> amphi: is that mkfs -t vfat /media/sda2
[02:42] <nikko> sorry... I am a little slow... :)
[02:42] <crimsun> nikko: please pastebin ``amixer -c0''
[02:42] <perezidentt> my /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ports.conf httpd.conf and apache2.conf are blank, could that  be why?
[02:42] <perezidentt> woops
[02:42] <perezidentt> useruser: my /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ports.conf httpd.conf and apache2.conf are blank, could that  be why?
[02:42] <ispiked> is there a way to only extract some files out of a tar archive? I have /home archived and I only need ~.ssh.
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> IamEthos: I went the route of a Fat32 "Interchange" partition as well; I would recommend that.
[02:43] <makaveli> perezidentt,  apache2.conf  too ?
[02:43] <nikko> ok
[02:43] <IamEthos> tonyyarusso: mkfs -t vfat /media/sda2
[02:43] <IamEthos> would that be the correct command?
[02:43] <useruser> perezidentt: dunno, but the script seems to want you to edit /etc/default/apache2 and change NO_START to 0
[02:43] <amphi> IamEthos: what's on there now?
[02:43] <IamEthos> what do you mean what's on there?
[02:43] <IamEthos> the partition is empty
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> IamEthos: I think so.  I would probably just do it graphically in GParted, but that looks right.  man mkfs would be a reference to confirm.
[02:44] <IamEthos> I've formatted it like 5 times using gparted among other things
[02:44] <amphi> IamEthos: oh, ok; no, it should not be mounted, and you should use /dev/whatever
[02:44] <perezidentt> useruser: there is no NO_START in apache2.conf
[02:44] <IamEthos> /dev/sda2
[02:44] <nikko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10702
[02:44] <IamEthos> that will only do the second partition, right?
[02:44] <useruser> perezidentt: indeed. read what i said more carefully
[02:44] <FliesLikeABrick> yes IamEthos
[02:45] <amphi> IamEthos: /dev/sda2 is the 2nd partition on /dev/sda, yeah
[02:45] <elg> installing breezy right now and it occurs to me what I really want on this box is edubuntu. can I migrate after the install with an apt command?
[02:45] <FliesLikeABrick> elg yes you can
[02:45] <eae> What default display manager should I pick? gdm or kdm?
[02:45] <bsdfox> I like gdm
[02:45] <elg> do I need to add a source, or just find a package?
[02:45] <perezidentt> useruser: ohhh i see, sorry. So should I do it?
[02:45] <FliesLikeABrick> eae if you're using ubuntu or edubuntu you would most likely use gdm
[02:46] <FliesLikeABrick> no elg it is there by default
[02:46] <useruser> perezidentt: worth a try :)
[02:46] <elg> cool. thanks
[02:46] <eae> FliesLikeABrick, ok thank
[02:46] <IamEthos> okay
[02:46] <useruser> perezidentt: you should probably get used to backing up such files before you edit them
[02:46] <IamEthos> now I'm trying to reenable the device
[02:46] <IamEthos> in disks manager
[02:46] <IamEthos> and it's saying inaccessible
[02:46] <rfmonk> Idleone
[02:46] <rfmonk> yea ubuntu+1 works
[02:46] <perezidentt> useruser: It worked (and im new to linux but ill start doing that) thx
[02:47] <crimsun> nikko: please toggle (mute) 'External Amplifier'
[02:47] <useruser> perezidentt: cool, np
[02:47] <rfmonk> well I got dapper anyway see ya all, trying to ween myself from xchat, in favor of irssi
[02:47] <nikko> what do u mean? what shall I do?
[02:47] <perezidentt> useruser: where can I view a list of AddType's so I can copy and paste them into apache2.conf?
[02:48] <bimberi> elg: install the edubuntu-desktop metapackage (same sources)
[02:48] <useruser> perezidentt: no idea, sorry
[02:48] <perezidentt> useruser: can you paste me that section in yours then plz?
[02:48] <useruser> perezidentt: i don't have an apache installation here
[02:48] <perezidentt> useruser: oh okay thx
[02:48] <useruser> perezidentt: do you particularly need apache, or just some webserver?
[02:49] <khanman02> anyone know where gnome keeps their theme files
[02:49] <khanman02> configurations..??
[02:49] <renato> I changed my keyboard to the correct one, did logout and login,  and it is still wrong
[02:49] <renato> does anyone know how to fix it?
[02:49] <IdleOne> khanman02, /usr/share/themes I think
[02:50] <IdleOne> I might be completly wrong though
[02:50] <khanman02> ~/.themes
[02:50] <renato> it shows the right one selected on preferences..
[02:50] <nikko> crimsun..... wha do u need?
[02:51] <IamEthos> okay
[02:51] <IamEthos> ran fsck on /dev/sda2
[02:51] <crimsun> nikko: did you mute 'External Amplifier'?
[02:51] <IamEthos> and it came up with errors
[02:51] <perezidentt> useruser: its trying to download my php script but I have AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[02:51] <perezidentt> AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps in my apache2.conf ...why?
[02:51] <IamEthos> but it said it was an ext3 journal
[02:51] <IamEthos> so
[02:51] <nikko> no... how do I do that?
[02:51] <IamEthos> I ran fsck.vfat on /dev/sda2
[02:51] <IamEthos> and it gave no errors
[02:51] <crimsun> nikko: open a Terminal, then: amixer sset 'External Amplifier' off
[02:51] <useruser> perezidentt: dunno. you'll get better help in #apache for this stuff i think
[02:51] <IamEthos> so I think the file system is fine
[02:51] <amphi> IamEthos: so mount it
[02:52] <IamEthos> but for whatever reason, linux still thinks it's ext3
[02:52] <IamEthos> how do I mount?
[02:52] <perezidentt> useruser: I usually do get help but right now either no one is helping or they are lame like me :-p
[02:52] <pvd> Where can you find the apache config file that shows which sites are allowed to access your site? I put localhost in it so no one on the outside could access it.
[02:52] <albinoblacksh33p> ok
[02:52] <pvd> I forgot the file though:-\
[02:52] <IamEthos> mount.vfat /dev/sda2?
[02:52] <amphi> IamEthos: mount /dev/sda2 /some/where
[02:52] <IamEthos> oh
[02:52] <albinoblacksh33p> when i have themes i cant se a new bottom toolbar why is that
[02:52] <nikko> yeah.... now I did it
[02:53] <crimsun> nikko: do you hear sound from ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?
[02:53] <amphi> IamEthos: as man mount would tell you ;)
[02:53] <Healot> building new kernel, new kernel... colonel?
[02:54] <IamEthos> okay
[02:54] <useruser> perezidentt: try this line too: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so
[02:54] <IamEthos> it's still showing up as an ext3 partition in disks manager
[02:54] <IamEthos> why?
[02:54] <albinoblacksh33p> plz help?
[02:54] <useruser> perezidentt: i'm sure there's a much better way to do all this stuff with ubuntu packages, though
[02:55] <nikko> no... :)
[02:55] <perezidentt> useruser: ubuntu (debian really) is infamous for screwing up apache
[02:55] <nikko> :(
[02:55] <albinoblacksh33p> PLZ HELP?
[02:55] <Toma-> if i sit here and yell at './configure' long enough, will it automatically satisfy my dependencies?
[02:55] <Toma-> <:)
[02:55] <renato> which command do I use to select other keyboard from terminal ?
[02:55] <amphi> IamEthos: what does mount with no args say?
[02:55] <renato> which command do I use to select other keyboard ?
[02:55] <albinoblacksh33p> ???
[02:55] <albinoblacksh33p> plz
[02:56] <albinoblacksh33p> ...
[02:56] <useruser> Toma-: apt-get build-dep is your friend
[02:56] <amphi> !tell albinoblacksh33p about enter
[02:56] <albinoblacksh33p> when i have themes i cant se a new bottom toolbar why is that
[02:56] <Toma-> useruser: yeh i know
[02:56] <Toma-> albinoblacksh33p: no idea. bad theme?
[02:56] <albinoblacksh33p> STFU
[02:56] <IamEthos> /dev/sda2 on /media/sda2 type vfat (rw)
[02:56] <Toma-> !patience
[02:56] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[02:56] <albinoblacksh33p> amphi
[02:56] <amphi> Toma-: no
[02:57] <albinoblacksh33p> all themes are like this tho
[02:57] <amphi> Toma-: install the -dev packages it bleats about
[02:57] <albinoblacksh33p> how?
[02:57] <crimsun> nikko: ok, reset it (amixer sset 'External Amplifier' on)
[02:57] <Toma-> amphi: yeh i know. i am. just wish configure was smarter and could be pathed into apt somehow...
[02:57] <albinoblacksh33p> um
[02:57] <albinoblacksh33p> when i have themes i cant se a new bottom toolbar why is that
[02:57] <Toma-> other than build-dep
[02:57] <nikko> ok..
[02:57] <Toma-> albinoblacksh33p: its a dodgy theme.
[02:58] <albinoblacksh33p> !tell amphi about enter
[02:58] <albinoblacksh33p> man..
[02:58] <Toma-> or, you arent using it properly
[02:58] <IamEthos> amphi: okay, so mount says that it's vfat
[02:58] <albinoblacksh33p> +ban
[02:58] <albinoblacksh33p> hmm
[02:58] <amphi> albinoblacksh33p: don't be a fucktard
[02:58] <albinoblacksh33p> what?
[02:59] <Toma-> !ops
[02:59] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[02:59] <albinoblacksh33p> -ban
[02:59] <Toma-> bye
[02:59] <albinoblacksh33p> ???
[02:59] <albinoblacksh33p> NO
[02:59] <Amaranth> nalioth: dang
[02:59] <IamEthos> amphi: but disks manager still says that it's ext3
[02:59] <renato> Does anyone know how to change the keyboard model from a command line ? i know it`s someting like dpkg -reconfigure ...something like this.
[02:59] <nalioth> anyone else with a nasty mouth?
[02:59] <pvd> What file for apache has the list of who can connect to your site?
[02:59] <IamEthos> and I can't change permissions on the drive so that my username has access to it
[02:59] <Toma-> i do but thats for my dentist to work out :(
[03:00] <Toma-> ;D
[03:00] <IamEthos> (however, the permissions aren't greyed out either
[03:00] <pvd> I was thinking it was under sites-enabled, sites-available.
[03:00] <crimsun> nikko: done?
[03:00] <IamEthos> it just gives me an error message if I try to change the owner
[03:00] <nikko> yeah.... I did it...
[03:00] <IamEthos> and if I change any of the read/write/execute permissions, they just change back right away
[03:01] <Toma-> renato: you mean 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:02] <majd> is there a program to rip dvd's?
[03:02] <nalioth> majd: you mean like "dvdrip" ?
[03:02] <Digitalseal> Hello, is thata a program that can play .rm files?
[03:02] <IamEthos> also, earlier I asked about linux apps that are comparable to winamp
[03:02] <Digitalseal> is there*
[03:02] <IamEthos> someone suggested beep
[03:02] <IamEthos> and someone suggested something else
[03:02] <IamEthos> any idea what that might have been?
[03:03] <Toma-> awww xchat conflicts with xchat-gnome? :/
[03:03] <Toma-> brb
[03:03] <majd> nalioth, yeah i just searched synapitc :)
[03:03] <fiendskull9> !tell Digitalseal anout easyubuntu
[03:03] <Digitalseal> what?
[03:03] <nalioth> majd: have you enabled universe and multiverse repos?
[03:03] <fiendskull9> !tell Digitalseal about easyubuntu
[03:04] <fiendskull9> Digitalseal, it has a feature to install a real media equivalent
[03:04] <bryan986> Is there something like a virtual KVM in linux, so that I can use the keyboard and mouse from another computer, but have the monitor connected directly? Or is VNC my best option?
[03:04] <nalioth> bryan986: also try freenx
[03:04] <renato> thank you Toma
[03:04] <Toma-> np renato
[03:04] <Deserir> bryan986: synergy2.sf.net
[03:04] <majd> nalioth, no, i mean i asked before searching synaptic...i searched it and i found a bunch
[03:04] <majd> but thanks
[03:05] <crimsun> nikko: done?
[03:05] <Deserir> or just look in synaptic for synergy
[03:05] <nikko> yeah
[03:06] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[03:06] <bryan986> Deserir: Ahah! Synergy looks perfect ill just have to figure out how to set it up now!
[03:06] <nikko> yeah.... I did the reset.... but stil no sound :(
[03:06] <misfit> how do I set up apt-get to use an online repository
[03:06] <Deserir> bryan986: i use it on 3-4 computers i have here, it's awesome, and easy enough to set up
[03:06] <crimsun> nikko: ok, please toggle 'Exchange Front/Surround'
[03:06] <misfit> not the cdrom
[03:07] <nikko> so amixer 'Exchange Front/Surround' off ??
[03:07] <crimsun> nikko: no, it's off (muted) currently.
[03:07] <edoardo> you guys, my job's turnin' law firms from windoz into gnu/linux - freebsd. i use gentoo. for my next job, as it's said to take less time to set up and be more user friendly, i was thinkin' of installin' ubuntu. now i'm wonderin'. does it give you as much advanced control as gentoo? and also, as i think the gentoo wiki's, from my experience, are totally the best out there, how do doc's, howto's, wiki's and similar perform in ubuntu? any opini
[03:07] <edoardo> ons on this? thankyou! : )
[03:08] <nikko> so u mean on??
[03:08] <crimsun> nikko: yes
[03:08] <pvd2006> Which file do you use for apache2 webserver to set who is allowed to access your site?
[03:08] <nikko> okay... but still no sound....
[03:08] <crimsun> nikko: next, unmute 'Master Surround' and 'Surround', then increase them both
[03:08] <Healot> edoardo, it's up to your personal preferences
[03:09] <Toma-> ok. imho, xchat-gnome is teh sux. :(
[03:09] <Healot> but to me, any linux distro is fine, except fedora core :)
[03:09] <edoardo> Healot, i prefer gentoo. if it didn't take two hours to set up, i would use that
[03:09] <edoardo> Healot, but i heard ubuntu's faster...
[03:09] <Healot> ubuntu. less then 30 min on a decent PC
[03:10] <Healot> edoardo, gentoo requires two stage install, ubuntu doesn't
[03:10] <renato> Healot, why don`t you like fedora core ?
[03:10] <Healot> no compilation needed on ubuntu...
[03:10] <Healot> it's Redhat's :)
[03:10] <edoardo> Healot, well of course i'd use stage three on gentoo : )
[03:10] <bimberi> Toma-: yeah, i thought so too at first, i've forced myself to use it though and there are some things i like over xchat
[03:10] <crimsun> nikko: did you do all the steps?
[03:11] <edoardo> Healot, and i'm fine with compilin', i'm not fine with the fact that you have to do a lot of manual settin' on gentoo, to set the box up before actual installation. i mean it's very cool for my box, but not for like nine clients in a law firm to do in a weekend : )
[03:11] <Healot> two-stage install + one more stage for configuration :)
[03:11] <Healot> edoardo, ubuntu's for migrator, great for experienced/novice Windows users
[03:11] <nikko> and then increse them both?
[03:12] <Healot> gentoo requires more experience to toy with
[03:12] <crimsun> nikko: yep
[03:12] <nikko> how that?
[03:12] <crimsun> nikko: use ``alsamixer -c0''
[03:12] <danf_1979> I dont think ubuntu could be defined as for migrators...
[03:12] <crimsun> nikko: or the volume control in the system tray (upper right corner)
[03:12] <danf_1979> Its just good for them, but not for them only
[03:12] <Healot> well.. to me it is... pretty easy for new linux users, with some minus though
[03:13] <Healot> sure... not only for them, any one can use it....
[03:13] <nikko> yeah
[03:13] <nikko> I did it
[03:13] <edoardo> well do i get the followin' with ubuntu? advanced control of configuration without havin' to deal with graphical tools i'm not accustomed with. and, good wiki's? cause i don't think gentoo wiki's can be beat. they're totally awesome
[03:13] <nikko> jubiii. :))
[03:13] <Healot> edoardo, all done with "dpkg-reconfigure"
[03:13] <caveman_> i am new at ubuntu. Is it possible to capture and edit video from my DV cam ?
[03:13] <crimsun> edoardo: of course, it's still a Debian base. We live and die by the cli.
[03:14] <Healot> familiar with debian? then go with ubuntu
[03:14] <crimsun> nikko: come again? (didn't understand)
[03:14] <edoardo> this is what bothered me about installin' ubuntu on those clients
[03:14] <IamEthos> how do folders with a space or a long name translate for a terminal window?
[03:14] <IamEthos> like a folder named "my music"
[03:15] <edoardo> i was lookin' for an howto on makin' the wacom graphite tablet work on ubuntu, and can't find one
[03:15] <Healot> edoardo, are you a expert in linux, if you can do gentoo, you can do ubuntu, trust me
[03:15] <edoardo> whereas the gentoo wiki popped up as like the second google result, and it's totally cool : )
[03:15] <nikko> no there is some sound, but when I play aplay aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav theres no sound...
[03:15] <edoardo> Healot, i used to have lfs : )
[03:16] <Davey> Ubuntu is refusing to recognize that Firefox (or anything but Mozilla) is my default browser
[03:16] <Healot> great
[03:16] <Davey> is there an environment argument I can set?
[03:16] <crimsun> nikko: erm, I still don't understand. Can you hear sound at all?
[03:16] <Healot> Davey, in gnome/kde you can setup the default browser in their control panel
[03:16] <Davey> it's not working
[03:16] <arrinmurr> edoardo: did you search wiki.ubuntu.com for wacom?
[03:16] <Healot> in gnome, prefered application
[03:17] <Davey> again, its *not working*
[03:17] <Healot> it worked for me :)
[03:17] <nikko> when I press icons in the traybar, there is a fast sound, it wasnt there before, but when I play aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav there is no sound
[03:17] <Davey> Healot: I'm happy for you
[03:17] <IamEthos> anyone?
[03:17] <danf_1979> A reason I like ubuntu is that it lets you actually use the OS right out of the box. It saves time...
[03:17] <IamEthos> if a folder is /media/sda2/my music
[03:17] <IamEthos> how would I use that in a terminal?
[03:17] <edoardo> arrinmurr, yeah, and it popped up four results, all of which deal on how to solve issue that might pop up after you've installed it. none of which deals with how to install it : (
[03:18] <edoardo> i think ubuntu sounds very appealin' and wanna give it a shot
[03:18] <IamEthos> edoardo: are you new to linux/
[03:18] <arrinmurr> edoardo: oh, ok. ubuntuforums is a great resource too
[03:18] <edoardo> but i have to be careful, as i'll have two days to migrate from windoz to gnu/linux, so i gotta know i can make things work
[03:18] <crimsun> nikko: does it hang when you use aplay, or does it "pretend" to play but you can't hear?
[03:18] <IamEthos> ubuntu is very easy
[03:19] <Hexidigital> hey guys... i dont remember where the setting is to configure "one click" or "double click" program execution...
[03:19] <cabajgtr> control panel -> mouse
[03:19] <IamEthos> I've been getting the impression that it's like "Intro to Linux"
[03:19] <edoardo> IamEthos, i put lfs on my laptop four years ago and gentoo on my desktop two years ago : ) and am currently maintainin' a gentoo - freebsd network with a server and nine clients, in a law firm : )
[03:19] <Hexidigital> cabajgtr, thanks
[03:19] <nikko> nothing happens when I play aplay..... it hangs...
[03:19] <IamEthos> oh
[03:19] <danf_1979> IamEthos, ubuntu? no... it just another flavor of linux
[03:19] <IamEthos> so easy isn't what you're looking for
[03:19] <danf_1979> as linux as any other
[03:20] <danf_1979> I use it as a webhosting server
[03:20] <crimsun> nikko: and you have to press ctrl+c?
[03:20] <IamEthos> danf_1979: everyone (even a lot of people in here) have said that it's linux, but a simplified version of it
[03:20] <IamEthos> that's what I meant
[03:20] <cabajgtr> Can anyone help me troubleshoot a sound issue. I've had it working on a diff installation on my thinkpad
[03:20] <nikko> yeah...
[03:20] <edoardo> IamEthos, like i typed, gentoo is the best choice to me, but it takes about two hours to set up. and i only have a weekend to set up seven clients i think. so i'm tempted to use ubuntu : )
[03:20] <nikko> I have to press crtl+c
[03:20] <danf_1979> Simplicity is at the user level...
[03:20] <danf_1979> not server
[03:20] <IamEthos> I got ubuntu running really fast
[03:20] <crimsun> nikko: ok. System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck the Enable sound server startup
[03:20] <edoardo> besides ubuntu sounds cool and i wanna give it a shot sooner or later
[03:20] <IamEthos> with no linux experience at all
[03:21] <edoardo> danf_1979, oh don't worry i'll put freebsd on the server : )
[03:21] <IamEthos> so I imagine you'll be up and running in minutes
[03:21] <edoardo> i'm talkin' about the clients : )
[03:21] <nikko> ok
[03:21] <danf_1979> Yup, I would like to try freebsd some time
[03:21] <danf_1979> I have heard good comments
[03:21] <danf_1979> :)
[03:21] <Hexidigital> !mp3
[03:21] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:21] <IamEthos> but can either of you tell me how I would reference a folder with a space in the name in a terminal?
[03:22] <nikko> yeah..... you did it.. :)
[03:22] <edoardo> danf_1979, well supposedly it handles multiple network connections, kernel wise, a lot better than linux. but i really don't know, i just know it's more stable and servers need to be stable and secure : )
[03:22] <cabajgtr> I don't have that option in sound panel, lspci show no probs, but there is no default sound card
[03:22] <mister_roboto> lamEthos:  ls folder\ with\ space
[03:22] <cabajgtr> if I run "esd" I get alsa errors (no card0 found)
[03:23] <edoardo> another big question
[03:23] <nikko> thanks... a lot.... now it works...
[03:23] <edoardo> how are updates handled in ubuntu?
[03:23] <danf_1979> Yes I heard something like that. Anyway, I dont know how much effort would imply to change my server to freebsd. I think I will do it when I began using a second server
[03:23] <IamEthos> mister roboto: thanks
[03:23] <edoardo> like every six months a new gnome comes out, is the switchin' over easy?
[03:23] <nalioth> edoardo: yes, very easy
[03:23] <hikenboot> If  I have a image file that was created using LVM's how would i extract a partition off of it the directions I have dont explain how to do this with LVMs...any ideas?
[03:24] <edoardo> cool cool... i dunno, i don't even know if i'm gettin' this job, but i might try ubuntu on it if i get it : )
[03:24] <danf_1979> Ubuntu is very unknown in the dedicated server world though...
[03:25] <edoardo> danf_1979, on the clients : )
[03:25] <danf_1979> Redhat, and CentOS are more used
[03:25] <danf_1979> I prefer ubuntu, I dont like RH
[03:25] <edoardo> freebsd is the way : )
[03:25] <edoardo> to me : )
[03:25] <edoardo> for the servers of course
[03:25] <danf_1979> Yeah, I know... I will try it on my second server :)
[03:26] <hikenboot> from what I here freebsd is under lots of financial problems right now
[03:26] <edoardo> or, if i had to put linux on a server, i would use gentoo i think : )
[03:26] <hikenboot> s/here/hear
[03:26] <edoardo> hikenboot, oh yeah? that's too bad
[03:26] <edoardo> : (
[03:26] <edoardo> : )
[03:26] <matty91> hikenboot: FreeBSD or OpenBSD?
[03:26] <tonkar> hi Ubuntu Users! i have a question for you. Does anybody know how can i send a message to a terminal in wich no user is conected?
[03:26] <danf_1979> edoardo, a server with gentoo would imply too much work
[03:26] <hikenboot> I am pritty sure FreeBSD cant remember where i read it..slashdot i think
[03:26] <Serpente> I'm going to be setting up an intranet server and am trying to decide between ubuntu, centos, fedora and gentoo.. right now I'm leaning toward fedora just because I have more experience with redhat style systems
[03:26] <matty91> oh -- that was OpenBSD
[03:27] <danf_1979> Serpente, dont do it.
[03:27] <danf_1979> Forget abour Fedora
[03:27] <danf_1979> Give ubuntu a try
[03:27] <jiping> ok
[03:27] <Healot> CentOS and RH Enterprise are targeted for server use
[03:27] <danf_1979> You'll love apt system
[03:27] <edoardo> Serpente, i would choose freebsd. then again, like i typed, the other choice would be gentoo : )
[03:27] <hikenboot> anyone know where I would go to find out the answer to my problem?
[03:27] <cubikdice> google
[03:27] <tonkar> does anybody know if it is possible?
[03:27] <Healot> while ubuntu is a lovely dsktop/workstation distro, even though it can function as a server distro
[03:27] <cubikdice> or #ubuntu
[03:27] <Serpente> I'll need to be able to remotely upgrade the system since it will be off site from me
[03:27] <cubikdice> oh hey look where we are
[03:28] <danf_1979> Naah, I would say: Debian, Ubuntu, FreeBSD
[03:28] <danf_1979> In no particular order
[03:28] <hikenboot> cant find anything on google but will keep looking
[03:28] <themachine> does gentoo have an easier install yet? I remember compiling for an entire day for the install
[03:28] <edoardo> themachine, stage three works really well. almost no compilin'
[03:28] <Healot> themachine, gentoo has two stage install + one stage config, and compilation is somewhat tedious
[03:28] <themachine> ah
[03:29] <danf_1979> It does now themachine, but if you're going to gentoo for speed, you'll  be dissapointed
[03:29] <danf_1979> There is no really big difference in speed
[03:29] <themachine> that's too bad
[03:29] <Serpente> I want to do some php5 development which is why fc5 is appealing
[03:29] <edoardo> well i go for it cause... i think it's faster, but i also think... i don't know i've got a lot of control over it, and the wiki's are fantastic. they address and solve just about any issue : )
[03:29] <danf_1979> Serpente, I really would recommend you an apt based system
[03:29] <seraphim> ubuntu also got php5 in the sources
[03:30] <seraphim> yes, me too
[03:30] <IamEthos>  ls folder\ with\ space <-?
[03:30] <IamEthos> doesn't seem to be working
[03:30] <seraphim> at the moment i would use a debian stable
[03:30] <Serpente> can I upgrade from one release to the next using apt?
[03:30] <seraphim> yes
[03:30] <danf_1979> cd Mis\ documentos/
[03:30] <danf_1979> thats the way
[03:31] <danf_1979> Serpente, yes you can
[03:31] <danf_1979> # aptitude update
[03:31] <NeverDream> cd "Mis documentos"
[03:31] <danf_1979> # aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:31] <Serpente> I always end up compiling some packages from source and when there is a mixture of managed packages and some source compiled packages I always end up worrying about upgrades breaking stuff
[03:31] <NeverDream> also works
[03:31] <danf_1979> I love aptitude
[03:32] <seraphim> just don't compile from source :D
[03:32] <philstar> is Dapper going to work on x86 Macs?
[03:32] <jiping> i think so
[03:32] <Serpente> seraphim I have to compile PHP from source in order to get oracle support
[03:32] <eggzeck> iMacs with intel mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:32] <eggzeck> i'm going to buy 2 of them
[03:32] <seraphim> if you don't find a deb somewhere use checkinstall
[03:32] <edoardo> what's aptitude?
[03:32] <seraphim> it's a very easy way to make your own .debs
[03:33] <NeverDream> those x86 macs are HOTT
[03:33] <danf_1979> aptitude is the best apt-get frontend out there
[03:33] <eggzeck> aptitude is used to find packages :P
[03:33] <renato> i have a question, not about system and linux , but i know there are lot of natives english speakers here, so i`d like to know, what does `neverenning` mean?
[03:33] <bimberi> !aptitude
[03:33] <danf_1979> # aptitude search package
[03:33] <seraphim> just use it after after "make" instead of sudo make install
[03:33] <danf_1979> # aptitude install package
[03:33] <crimsun> renato: do you mean 'neverending'?
[03:33] <eirejah> can someone please tell me how to upgrade to gnome 2.14 ??
[03:33] <danf_1979> # aptitude remove package
[03:33] <seraphim> then you have your own compiled version as a deb
[03:33] <danf_1979> # aptitude purge package
[03:33] <danf_1979> those are common commands
[03:33] <edoardo> any good gtk+ frontend for aptitude?
[03:33] <danf_1979> with aptitude
[03:34] <renato> crimsum, yes, i`m sorry
[03:34] <crimsun> renato: please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for further discussion
[03:34] <pvd2006> Where is the file located on Ubuntu for apache2 web server where I can allow or deny access to internet users?
[03:34] <pvd2006> I set it to deny outside connections now I cant find the file anymore.
[03:34] <renato> crimsum, tks but you already answer my question
[03:35] <themachine> what's the best video card for linux so far?
[03:36] <seraphim> everything nvidia if you don't mind closed drivers
[03:36] <predius_> hey guys
[03:36] <NeverDream> 'lo
[03:36] <predius_> i have a friend who's tryig to install ubuntu
[03:36] <themachine> so nvidia keeps their drivers proprietary?
[03:36] <softwarecommie> themachine: nvidia is awesome, but I wish they'd open up the dang drivers
[03:36] <themachine> thats too bad
[03:37] <predius_> cd loads but stays at the logo
[03:37] <eirejah> can someone please tell me how to upgrade to gnome 2.14 ??
[03:37] <IamEthos> how do I copy an entire directory in a terminal?
[03:37] <renato> IamEthos cp -R dir newdir
[03:37] <eirejah> IamEthos: cp -R
[03:37] <IamEthos> cp /media/sda1/directory /media/sda2/destination
[03:37] <IamEthos> aah
[03:37] <IamEthos> -R
[03:38] <eirejah> ;p
[03:38] <seraphim> eirejah: dist-upgrade to dapper
[03:38] <eirejah> seraphim: do i just do dist-upgrade?
[03:38] <eirejah> thats it
[03:38] <seraphim> you have to change all "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "dapper"
[03:39] <danf_1979> Who here works on ubuntu? programming, webhosting and other tech works?
[03:39] <eirejah> ok
[03:39] <seraphim> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:39] <eirejah> and thats it then?
[03:39] <seraphim> but be warned
[03:39] <eirejah> ok right
[03:39] <seraphim> it's still testing
[03:39] <eirejah> ok
[03:39] <eirejah> what can that mean
[03:39] <eirejah> in worst case scenario
[03:39] <seraphim> that it can break your sys
[03:39] <eirejah> right
[03:39] <gnu2it2> any good wiki or advice on migrating from 1 disk drive to another? i want to LVM a new 60 gb (/dev/hdd) and move my /dev/hda over to it
[03:40] <ericmoritz\0> I'm trying to install the sdl dev package but it's giving me a weird message
[03:40] <ericmoritz\0> libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[03:40] <ericmoritz\0>  libglu-dev
[03:41] <chris> how do i get easyubuntu\
[03:41] <IdleOne> !easyubuntu
[03:41] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[03:41] <crimsun> ericmoritz\0: pastebin ``apt-cache policy libsdl1.2-dev''
[03:41] <espresso> how do I backup my entire hdd?
[03:42] <eggzeck> =o
[03:42] <NeverDream> espresso, man dd
[03:42] <espresso> ok
[03:42] <espresso> thx
[03:42] <blujay> espresso: I recommend you look into rdiff-backup, or even better, backupninja
[03:44] <jakl> i tried installing gmail-notify for linux and got a few depencies errors, but now that i try to install some other stuff i always get some error related to that install...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10703
[03:44] <jakl> how can i fix that or just completely remove that gmail-notify?
[03:45] <ericmoritz\0> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/619314
[03:45] <crimsun> ericmoritz\0: pastebin the entire apt-get command
[03:45] <eirejah> hehehe #easyubuntu   like its not easy already
[03:45] <eirejah> haha
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[03:46] <Serpente> is ubuntu a lot different than debian?
[03:46] <eirejah> the install certainly is
[03:46] <IdleOne> hAmaS, dont spam in here please
[03:47] <eirejah> lol
[03:47] <IdleOne> lol
[03:47] <NeverDream> pfft
[03:47] <ericmoritz\0> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/619316
[03:47] <NeverDream> loser
[03:47] <NeverDream> ericmoritz\0, did you run apt-get update first?
[03:47] <gabbah> i can't seem to get beagle working with deskbar... both are installed, but deskbar can't search local files it seems...
[03:48] <pvd2006> on apache in ports.conf I have, Listen 80
[03:48] <pvd2006> , but when I try to load apache server it says that the ports.conf has a invalid syntax?
[03:48] <ericmoritz\0> NeverDream, lemme try that
[03:48] <NeverDream> you'll need to sudo
[03:48] <ericmoritz\0> NeverDream, yeah I know, apt-get update didn't help any
[03:49] <NeverDream> hmm
[03:49] <drcode> hi all
[03:49] <NeverDream> ericmoritz\0, have you tried manually apt-getting that package?
[03:49] <pjv> i have some DLL overides in wine where is the ~/.wine/config  file i can;t seem to locate it on the latest wine?
[03:49] <drcode> Is there program that I can sort my folder by size ?
[03:49] <Serpente> eirejah, once you've got the thing installed can you use debian packages or does ubuntu have its own versions of packages?
[03:49] <crimsun> ericmoritz\0: pastebin ``apt-cache policy libglu1-mesa-dev''
[03:49] <drcode> so I can see what take lots of space?
[03:49] <ericmoritz\0> when I try to install libglu1-mesa-dev, I get this: http://pastebin.com/619322
[03:50] <NeverDream> ericmoritz\0, whow
[03:50] <crimsun> ericmoritz\0: make sure you have the breezy-updates and breezy-security repos enabled
[03:50] <jakl> can anyone help me fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10703 ?
[03:51] <ericmoritz\0> doh
[03:52] <ericmoritz\0> updates was still commented out, I thought I did that :)
[03:52] <IdleOne> jakl, sudo apt-get -f install
[03:53] <tanath> can anyone tell me how to get chrony working?
[03:53] <NeverDream> does it take a LONG time to upgrade to Dapper?
[03:53] <ericmoritz\0> there we go, sdl dev is installing, thanks!
[03:54] <NeverDream> nevermind, that was a stupid question
[03:54] <tanath> it's not making measurements
[03:54] <IdleOne> NeverDream, no it wasnt
[03:54] <IdleOne> NeverDream, www.ubuntu.com/testing for flight5 iirc
[03:55] <danf_1979> edoardo, do you have some good freebsd articules at hand?
[03:55] <tanath> i've installed chrony, and set the servers to online in the chrony.conf file, but it doesn't make measurements. can anyone help?
[03:55] <yamathan> Wait, wait, since when is my username owned by someone else?
[03:56] <NeverDream> is flight 5 fairly stable?
[03:56] <yamathan> Ah, nevermind.
[03:56] <yamathan> This is a windows-related question, but what's wrong with my router?  I'm attempting to do some port-forwarding and I'm getting some weird 404 errors.
[03:56] <NeverDream> will there be a flight 6 before final?
[03:56] <IdleOne> NeverDream, get more info concerning dapper in #ubuntu+1 :)
[03:56] <pjv> is IE6 stable on wine?
[03:56] <yamathan> I used "admin" as the default password, it screeched at me, and now I can't access it through 192.168.1.101 in IE.
[03:56] <yamathan> What the Hell is going on here?
[03:56] <NeverDream> IdleOne, ok, sorry 'bou that :)
[03:57] <gabbah> is .xpm a particular format or is it really just a png file?
[03:57] <IdleOne> NeverDream, no problem just telling you cause they can answer you better
[03:57] <NeverDream> thanks :)
[03:57] <Abnix> access, hmm that reminds me, what do I need to do to get ssh going here?
[03:57] <gabbah> can i just rename a .png to .xpm and use it as an icon?
[03:57] <eirejah> can someone PLEASE tell me where i can get libss.10.9.8  ?
[03:57] <tritium> Abnix: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:58] <Abnix> ty
[03:58] <Abnix> kind of a silly thing to leave out of that package-add proggie
[03:58] <Abnix> IMO ^
[03:58] <jakl> IdleOne: hmm that was obvious, thanks!
[03:58] <IdleOne> jakl,  no problem :)
[04:01] <edoardo> danf_1979, as in articles?
[04:01] <eirejah> anyone  ??
[04:01] <eirejah> please
[04:01] <eirejah> can someone PLEASE tell me where i can get libss.10.9.8  ?
[04:01] <tritium> eirejah: patience
[04:01] <eggzeck> how the hell do you disable the trackpad touch ?? (on a G4)
[04:01] <tanath> i've installed chrony, but it doesn't make measurements. can anyone help?
[04:01] <crimsun> eirejah: in dapper?
[04:01] <danf_1979> yes, could be a good articule on security. I'm searching google, but no good articule yet
[04:02] <danf_1979> article, sorry
[04:02] <eirejah> crimsun: im on breezy
[04:02] <danf_1979> (spanish speaker)
[04:02] <eirejah> tritium: the only reason i repost is because of the amount of scroll in this room
[04:02] <phrowzen> does anyone know if its possible to play apple HD trailers? well, specifically with the mplayerplugin even?
[04:02] <edoardo> danf_1979, yeah, don't worry : ) no i don't have any. sorry dude : )
[04:03] <edoardo> you guys, is any of you usin' an ati agp video card with the radeon driver and fastwrite enabled? cause when i enable fastwrite my box hangs up. how come? help! : ) thankyou! : )
[04:03] <NeverDream> danf_1979, #ubuntu-es
[04:03] <crimsun> eirejah: only 0.9.7 (patched) is in Breezy
[04:03] <tritium> eirejah: okay, but please wait a bit in between
[04:04] <jlhenry> Hello
[04:04] <eirejah> tritium: i usually wait until its gone off the top of the screen .. maybe thats too soon, if so.. sorry.
[04:04] <eirejah> crimsun: ok thanks
[04:04] <NeverDream> where does ubuntu keep it's apt cache?
[04:04] <NeverDream> s/it's/its/
[04:04] <crimsun> eirejah: if you desperately need the newer version, grab the deb-src from dapper and apt-get build-dep libssl0.9.8, then generate a deb locally (or use pbuilder)
[04:05] <jlhenry> can anyone tell me how can I do a script that move file named "filename.new" to "filename"?
[04:05] <crimsun> eirejah: sorry, that would be ``apt-get build-dep libssl0.9.7''
[04:05] <_jason> jlhenry: mv
[04:05] <jlhenry> _jason, ...
[04:06] <jlhenry> _jason, yes I know
[04:06] <_jason> jlhenry: no, seriously
[04:06] <jlhenry> _jason, but I've got 72 files
[04:06] <jlhenry> _jason, I know a bit "sed" but can't figure out how to use it to do that
[04:06] <_jason> jlhenry: do you just want to rename them?
[04:07] <dj-fu> Use find
[04:07] <jlhenry> _jason, I just want to know how i can say "remove the .new"
[04:07] <_jason> jlhenry: man rename, let me know if you have questions
[04:09] <jlhenry> _jason, the problem i think is not the tool, i could do it with rename or mv. the pb comes to write the argument
[04:09] <jlhenry> I do not know how I can say "mv ****.new ****"
[04:10] <_jason> jlhenry: rename -n 's/\.new//' *, should do work right.  If it works just get rid of the -n so it actually acts on the files
[04:11] <eggzeck> s/\.new//?? =o
[04:12] <jlhenry> _jason, thanks a lot!
[04:12] <_jason> jlhenry: np
[04:12] <jlhenry> that was the 's/\.new//' I was searching
[04:13] <_jason> jlhenry: do you understand it?
[04:13] <ifr> Hey all. Want to upgrade my OOo, but I'm told I have the latest by apt. I'm at version 1.9. somethin and on my dapper install it;'s 2.0.2 so what gives? I;m under breezy. Must I get a special source for OOo?
[04:13] <Fujitsu> eggzeck, s/something/something else/ will replace 'something' with 'something else'.
[04:13] <_jason> !ooo2
[04:13] <ubotu> To upgrade to OOo 2.0.x, see http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html (add one of the 'deb' lines to sources.list and update+upgrade)
[04:13] <jlhenry> as I'm doing it on mutliple files and subdirectories, I use find
[04:13] <eggzeck> I know what a substitution is :)
[04:13] <ifr> nj -jason
[04:13] <eggzeck> ;P
[04:13] <jlhenry> _jason, yes I understand it. I was just not imagine that this was just like that! :)
[04:14] <eggzeck> but thanks for the enlightenment Fujitsu :P
[04:14] <ifr> I meant, thank you, _jason ;)
[04:15] <_jason> ifr: np
[04:16] <cabajgtr> Can some one help me fix a missing sound card problem?
[04:16] <cabajgtr> it shows up in "lspci" but esd says no card found
[04:16] <dj-fu> use alsa
[04:16] <jlhenry> _jason, there is probably shorter, but here what i done
[04:16] <jlhenry> for i in `find . -type f -exec grep -q hosts {} \; -print` ; do mv $i `echo $i | sed -e "s/\.new//"`; done
[04:16] <_jason> jlhenry: ouch
[04:17] <dj-fu> sexy commandline hack, jlhenry
[04:17] <mebaran> hey
[04:17] <mebaran> I want a device availalbe from two folders
[04:17] <mebaran> /mnt/av and /home/av
[04:17] <mebaran> should I just mount the same device both places
[04:17] <mebaran> or use a bind mount
[04:19] <mebaran> I'm using a bind mount right now; is that the best way?
[04:19] <pippins> ln -s
[04:19] <jlhenry> dj-fu, :)
[04:20] <dj-fu> mebaran, as pippins says, a symlink is probably the best way to go.
[04:21] <pippins> dj-fu, same one from the blackhat days? :)
[04:21] <dj-fu> possibly
[04:21] <dj-fu> I don't think there are any other dj-fu's
[04:21] <mebaran> dj-fu, I have but one problem
[04:22] <mebaran> I need to overcome a chroot
[04:22] <mebaran> it has to cross a chroot which is why I'm doing bind mount
[04:22] <mebaran> ln -s I don't think let's you escape a chroot
[04:22] <mebaran> or else it's a GIANT security whole
[04:22] <mebaran> *hole
[04:25] <brownie17> how do i make all .avi's open with totem instead of vlc?
[04:25] <FunnyLookinHat> What should I install to unpack .rar files?
[04:25] <FunnyLookinHat> file-rollre doesn't handle
[04:26] <_jason> !rar
[04:26] <ubotu> hmm... rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[04:26] <FunnyLookinHat> ty
[04:26] <FunnyLookinHat> should have thought of that
[04:30] <sweven> hello
[04:31] <sweven> I'm having trouble with an Ubuntu installation, anyone want to advise?
[04:31] <makaveli> what kinda trouble
[04:31] <makaveli> !installation
[04:31] <ubotu> makaveli: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:31] <makaveli> !install
[04:31] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[04:31] <sweven> well, I've installed sucessfully once on this machine
[04:31] <sweven> I am installing on a friends computer
[04:31] <[BreliC] > anyone here using kubuntu dapper with xgl?
[04:32] <[BreliC] > oops, wrong channel :)
[04:32] <sweven> I get completely through the CD and then after restarting it says "Operating system not found"
[04:32] <sweven> I've tried to install 3 times, partitioning different ways
[04:32] <brownie17> while installing it told me to get a computer that wasn't crap
[04:32] <pippins> check what is booting in the bios
[04:32] <sweven> with the same results
[04:32] <pippins> partition active?
[04:33] <sweven> it's set to look for the CD drive first, then the hard drive
[04:33] <makaveli> put hard drive 1st
[04:33] <sweven> I tried that, but I will try again
[04:33] <pippins> shouldnt make a difference
[04:33] <pippins> it will default to his drive if their is no cd in the drive
[04:33] <akcom> Has anyone had any success with either MOV or WMV files on ubuntu/ppc?
[04:34] <khafra> What does this mean?: Mar 23 22:30:52 localhost sensord:   Memory size (MB): Invalid 13 11 2 4
[04:34] <pippins> lm-sensor broke
[04:35] <khafra> Ah.  How 'bout if my motherboard is generally around 40-50C, and it says the max should be 40?
[04:35] <sweven> so yeah...  it's still not working?
[04:35] <sweven> I ran memtest earlier and the (small amount) of RAM is fine
[04:35] <sweven> I'm not so sure about the hard drive
[04:36] <pippins> are you sure you partitioned the drive correctly etc...
[04:36] <sweven> I did the guided partitioning
[04:36] <ubushine> sweven, can you boot with the livecd and see if you have /boot vmlinuzxxxx and other things in / ?
[04:36] <sweven> nothing special
[04:36] <pippins> fdisk
[04:36] <pippins> then p
[04:37] <sweven> Let me boot with the Live CD, brb
[04:37] <paulo> hji, i need help with winmodem on ubuntu
[04:37] <paulo> is there any way to make it work?
[04:37] <bryan986> I can't recall who suggested synergy to me, but it is amazing, thank you! It even works from windows to linux screens!!
[04:38] <makaveli> !winmodem
[04:38] <ubotu> winmodem is, like, totally, See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto for instructions on setting up your modem (including winmodems). Additional info can be found at http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[04:38] <NickGarvey> !synergy
[04:38] <ubotu> hmm... synergy is if you need a kvm, try synergy.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto
[04:38] <makaveli> ubotu mah man
[04:38] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, makaveli
[04:39] <NickGarvey> bryan986: is it like a remote desktop?
[04:39] <bryan986> NickGarvey: Similar, but not the same....I have two monitors on my desk each hooked up to a computer, but one mouse and keyboard....it shares the mouse and keyboard for both computers....I can move the mouse from my windows machine onto the windows desktop, its sweet
[04:40] <bryan986> errr onto the linux desktop
[04:40] <steev-laptop> hey all
[04:40] <sweven> so when I try to boot the Live CD it says: Could not find kernel image: /install/vmlinuz
[04:41] <pippins> looks like its borked
[04:41] <pippins> reinstall
[04:41] <bryan986> lol I even net installed the machine since it doesnt have a hard drive, pretty sweet
[04:41] <ubushine> sweven, so the live cd doesn't work either?
[04:41] <bryan986> err doesnt have a cd drive haha
[04:42] <akcom> Has anyone had any success with either MOV or WMV files on ubuntu/ppc?
[04:42] <pjv> how can i make it possible for a user to execute an app without a password in sudo?
[04:43] <ubushine> pjv, man sudoers
[04:43] <edoardo> you guys, how do i check if the xdamage extension is loaded in xorg? thankyou! : )
[04:44] <steev-laptop> where would i find the subversion repository for ubuntu's project utopia?
[04:45] <pjv> Ubugtu: i have i tried NOPASSWD in my config, and it still doesn't work, do you have an example on how to do it, i must be doing it wrong
[04:45] <pjv> err ubushine
[04:45] <ubushine> edoardo, look at /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <crimsun> does anyone use linphone?
[04:46] <crimsun> I'm attempting to iron out a device usage issue
[04:46] <sweven> Also, this computer had Windows 98 running on it before, which would boot fine
[04:46] <crimsun> [oss vs. alsa] 
[04:47] <Madpilot> pjv, you can get sudo to run w/o a password, but that's really not recommended
[04:47] <sweven> I know this is a difficult problem but please don't ignore me
[04:47] <ubushine> pjv, i used to have an example. i'll try to find
[04:47] <pjv> Madeye: i know but i'd like to try it out :(
[04:47] <pjv> damn there's a lot of users here
[04:48] <pjv> ubushine: ty
[04:48] <edoardo> Ubugtu, is dga a good thing? cause it's explicitly omttied in my xorg.conf : (
[04:48] <edoardo> whoops
[04:48] <brian_> where are the linux kernel source files stored in be default on ubuntu?
[04:48] <edoardo> ubushine, is dga a good thing? cause it's explicitly omttied in my xorg.conf : (
[04:48] <Madpilot> sweven, did you burn this CD yourself?
[04:48] <edoardo> *omitted
[04:48] <sweven> I'm using an offical Ubuntu CD
[04:48] <sweven> fresh out of the envelope
[04:48] <pippins> reinstall bud
[04:49] <ubushine> edoardo, don't know/use dga
[04:49] <pulgoki> .
[04:49] <Madpilot> sweven, hmm - some of them are duds - it happens - try another one?
[04:49] <sweven> Madpilot, that's a good idea, it seems like some data must be missing
[04:49] <edoardo> ubushine, how do i start xdamage? in what section? how do i load the extension?
[04:50] <ubushine> pjv, here's what damn small linux does to /etc/sudoers: ALL=NOPASSWD :ALL
[04:50] <ubushine> pjv, so adjust accordingly
[04:50] <pjv> yeah i got that and it still ask for a password
[04:50] <ubushine> edoardo, what's xdamage?
[04:50] <edoardo> ubushine, : D
[04:50] <blue> I Love You
[04:50] <ubushine> pjv, how did you edit the file
[04:51] <pjv> ubushine: i used vi
[04:51] <brian_> where are the linux kernel source files stored in be default on ubuntu?
[04:51] <ubushine> pjv, did you run /etc/init.d/sudo restart (use visudo no vi)
[04:51] <bimberi> pjv: i've added the line 'dsymons ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/who' to my /etc/sudoers (using visudo) and can now run 'sudo who' without entering a password
[04:51] <brian_> I cant find them
[04:51] <pjv> ohh ok
[04:51] <Dodolala> ee
[04:51] <pjv> damn let me try that
[04:51] <bimberi> pjv: other commands still need the p/w
[04:52] <chown> hello
[04:53] <lasindi> Off-topic, but could someone tell me where the firmware upgrade for Netgear routers that have the vulnerability that was discussed several weeks ago is? I've tried googling, but I can't find anything.
[04:53] <majd> Hey, what's a good program to burn video cds?
[04:53] <Madpilot> lasindi, not on Netgear's website somewhere?
[04:54] <gnu2it2> any good wiki or advice on migrating from 1 disk drive to another? i want to use LVM2 on a new 60 gb (/dev/hdd) and move my (/dev/hda) data over to it
[04:56] <ubushine> gnu2it2, http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Cloning_a_hard_disc
[04:57] <mebaran> is bind better than mounting one device two places?
[04:57] <vladuz976> can someone here help me out with a small script? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/9GB2s874.html
[04:57] <gnu2it2> ubushine: thanks
[04:57] <htrp> how do i install font so i can use them with openoffice?
[04:57] <lasindi> Madpilot: I can't seem to find anything. lilo messaged me telling me I had the vulnerability, and that I should go get a firmware upgrade (after reconnecting on port 8001), but I can't find that upgrade.
[04:58] <volmarias> Question: Where is the default configuration file for iptables in Ubuntu?
[04:58] <Madpilot> lasindi, I don't have a Netgear router, so I'm not sure - surprised you can't find it on their website, though
[04:58] <pjv> ubushine: i should of used visudo, that was the problem, ok ty it works now
[04:58] <Madpilot> !tell htrp about fonts
[04:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell htrp about fonts
[04:59] <ubushine> good to hear
[05:00] <miguel> hello. I'm having a problem to build a project. it's a program written in C. Two libraries are missing. I beleave these are standard libs. rhese are the libs: readline history ncurses.
[05:00] <truz24> Where is the screen to define shortcuts ? ( windows_key + D  to show desktop for instance )
[05:00] <miguel> did I missed some development packege?
[05:00] <_jason> truz24: system > preferences  > keyboard shortcuts
[05:00] <majd> Hey, what's a good program to burn video cds?
[05:00] <volmarias> Question: Where is the default configuration file for iptables in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <bimberi> majd: k3b
[05:01] <_jason> volmarias: iptables has no rules in a default install
[05:01] <lasindi> Madpilot: this is the closest I got: http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/wgr614v6.asp There's a firmware update there, but it was released in May 2005.
[05:01] <lasindi> Er, January 2006
[05:01] <volmarias> _jason, ok. If I make a change to iptables, will that change survive through a reboot? If not, how do I specify the default ruleset on startup?
[05:02] <majd> bimberi, i'm on gnome
[05:02] <_jason> !iptables-initscript
[05:02] <ubotu> [iptables-initscript]  to have iptables rules loaded at system startup you have to create your own initscript (try !initscript for more info), or use a tool like firestarter or shorewall, which both have their initscripts.
[05:02] <Kirsch> hey guys, i'm trying to install a linux module but i need the source code, but when i do "apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`" it doesn't find it, should i apt-get something else?
[05:03] <dcgarri> could anyone tell me a speedy way (if it exists) to remove the gnome desktop environment?  I know have KDE and would like to use it as default
[05:03] <volmarias> thanks _jason
[05:03] <volmarias> !initscript
[05:03] <ubotu> somebody said initscript was make your own initscripts based on /etc/init.d/skeleton. To enable your initscript use update-rc.d.
[05:03] <bimberi> majd: for gnome there's graveman and gnomebaker, not sure if they do Video CD's though.  k3b will run ok - just brings in a lot of KDE libraries with it
[05:03] <Toma-> debfoster will do that dcgarri
[05:04] <dcgarri> thank you
[05:05] <eae> Hey guys, I can't work my wireless. Can someone troubleshoot me thru it?
[05:05] <eae> It works in Windows.
[05:05] <bryan986> Is it bad to put start up scripts that I want to run before I login in the /etc/init.d folder, it looks like there is system stuff in there...
[05:05] <miguel> hello. I'm having a problem to build a project. it's a program written in C. 3 libraries are missing. I beleave these are standard libs. rhese are the libs: readline history ncurses.
[05:06] <Toma-> bryan986: just make your own script and put it in init.d
[05:06] <mikes_> hey i need dome help. when i update ubuntu i get this W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/'universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_'universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:07] <bimberi> mikes_: the CD doesn't have a universe (or multiverse) repository
[05:07] <Toma-> mikes_: open up /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # infront of the line about the ubuntu cd
[05:07] <Mabus06> 
[05:07] <jodanlime> hey, I have a usb scanner and it says that sane supports it well, but I cant figure out how to get it to work under breezy, can somebody help me?
[05:07] <mikes_> toma-: thanks
[05:07] <Toma-> mikes_: np
[05:08] <mikes_> bimberi:thanks
[05:08] <bimberi> mikes_: yw :)
[05:08] <tux> hi guys
[05:09] <wannabe> anyone here knows how can i install macromedia flsh on my ubuntu?
[05:09] <Toma-> !flash
[05:09] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:09] <john_> hey
[05:10] <wannabe> is there an alternative of flash on linux?
[05:11] <jodanlime> anyone know about sane and scanners?
[05:11] <Toma-> umm. flash is flash... theres a 'free' version of it?
[05:11] <tristanmike> !flash
[05:11] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:12] <wannabe> i mean not the flash player but the application itself
[05:12] <Toma-> flash development?
[05:12] <wannabe> anyone knows if theres a wiki on how can i install it on ubuntu?
[05:13] <Toma-> !wine
[05:13] <wannabe> is there a complete wiki?
[05:13] <Toma-> ubotu: say wine
[05:13] <ubotu> Toma-: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:13] <Kyral> wannabe: I tend to use Firefox as the player itself
[05:13] <wannabe> sowee im a newbie
[05:13] <Toma-> wannabe: you can use wine to run the windows version
[05:14] <Kyral> sometimes you have to look for the unorthodox solutions (which often are fun)
[05:14] <wannabe> Toma-, really, is there a wiki on it?
[05:14] <bryan986> If I wanted my startup script to run after gdm loads but before you login, where should i put it?
[05:14] <Toma-> ubotu: tell wannabe about wine
[05:14] <jodanlime> help with my scanner please!!
[05:14] <mikes_> runnin apilications on wine is slower than run them at windows?
[05:14] <wannabe> Toma-, a step by step guide?
[05:16] <Toma-> wannabe: yeh. copy and paste this into a terminal then. "sudo echo "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/" >> /etc/apt/sources.list" && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine"
[05:16] <Munchkinguy> You'll have to forgive me for asking a Xubuntu question here, but... How do I set up printers in Xubuntu.
[05:16] <Toma-> then run "wine ProgramThatYouWant.exe"
[05:16] <wannabe> Toma-, thnx a lot
[05:16] <Toma-> wannabe: np
[05:17] <poikol> hi all !
[05:18] <poikol> anybody can help me with an " 5.25'' external ide box
[05:18] <htrp> if you downloaded off a website, do you have to install them in /usr/share/fonts so other users can use it too?
[05:19] <htrp> fonts*
[05:19] <neo911> is red hat also debian based? thx
[05:20] <MistaED> red hat is red hat based, :)
[05:20] <Neurosis> Is there any good free news group servers or a free usenet that i can use with Pan?
[05:20] <htrp> redhat != debian
[05:21] <neo911> MistaED, they say ubuntu is debian based right? so red hat is at the same level as debian?
[05:21] <Madpilot> htrp, I think putting it into fonts:/// thru Nautilus gets it system-wide (not actually sure, though, this is a one-user computer...)
[05:21] <jodanlime> neo911, basically
[05:21] <neo911> how do i subscribe to a newsgroup server like comp.lang.c++ from ubuntu? thanks
[05:22] <MistaED> neo911: what do you mean by level? they both have the same gnu packages and linux kernel, just one uses rpm and the other uses deb packages, plus the filesystems are structured slightly differently, and probably the inits are different
[05:22] <greenwom> e
[05:22] <neo911> jodanlime, so what are the different "flavours" of linux? there'd be debian and what others? thx
[05:22] <sweven> So, uh 4 install attemps and 2 CDs later... "Operating System not found"
[05:22] <jodanlime> neo911, there are things built on red hat too, like suse and mandrake, but I seem to like the way debian based systems work much better, there are alot of stuff built on debian other than just ubuntu
[05:22] <IamEthos> how do I change which drives ubuntu mounts on startup?
[05:22] <cerebrix> www.distrowatch.org will show you most linux distros
[05:23] <greenwom> any one have dual monitor
[05:23] <cerebrix> in total, since if i wanted to, i could make my own, so could you.  i imagine theres in excess of 10000 different distros
[05:23] <greenwom> wallpapers
[05:23] <eae> Can anyone help me?
[05:23] <Neurosis> im getting dual monitor put in this week
[05:23] <neo911> jodanlime, right, i think that's what i wanted to know :-)
[05:23] <bimberi> IamEthos: edit /etc/fstab
[05:23] <Toma-> eae: probably....
[05:23] <eae> Ok, then...
[05:23] <greenwom> I love my dual head set up but there's limited wallpaper out there
[05:24] <eae> My wireless doesn't work. It works in Windows.
[05:24] <jodanlime> neo911, a good place to check out is distrowatch.com, you can learn all about different distros or "flavours" and wikipedia is a great place to get lots of information on specific distros, or anything else for that matter
[05:24] <greenwom> good wallpaper
[05:24] <neo911> btw, so anyone know hot to subscribe to a newsgroup from ubuntu, say comp.lang.c++? thx
[05:24] <htrp> is there a 'linux version' of that font named 'English', which is windows font
[05:24] <htrp> ?
[05:24] <sweven> make your own wallpaper :^)
[05:24] <neo911> jodanlime, ok, ive added it to my bookmarks
[05:24] <IamEthos> bimberi: just delete lines that I don't want to mount/
[05:24] <greenwom> <-- bad artist
[05:24] <_jason> neo911: I use pan
[05:24] <Madpilot> htrp, if it's a TTF font, it'll work in Ubuntu
[05:24] <Neurosis> im getting dual monitor put in this week
[05:24] <Neurosis> im getting dual monitor put in this week
[05:24] <jodanlime> can anybody help me set up my scanner with sane
[05:24] <eae> Toma-, you get that?
[05:24] <Neurosis> Is there any good free news group servers or a free usenet that i can use with Pan?
[05:25] <Munchkinguy> How do I add a printer in the console?
[05:25] <neo911> _jason, pan is an app i can install from synaptic?
[05:25] <_jason> neo911: yes
[05:25] <sweven> greenwom, post a request on the message board, I'll bet someone would make something up
[05:25] <htrp> ic
[05:25] <neo911> _jason, cool
[05:25] <kasemodz> i have been this problem on my ubuntu server. Basically, when I'm downlading something the download speed rapidly fluctuates and even in lan when im hardwired it starts at 11mb then goes down to g6 mb gradually and keeps fluctuating. anyone know how to tweak it?
[05:25] <bimberi> IamEthos: comment them out (you never know...) :)
[05:26] <IamEthos> and will that still allow me to mount them manually?
[05:26] <Sashi> hey
[05:26] <sweven> hi
[05:26] <Sashi> i got the AMD64 iso for some reason i cant boot it
[05:26] <Sashi> something about IRQ error
[05:26] <ReWT_AxS> Sashi, are you 64 bit?
[05:26] <Sashi> yes
[05:27] <Sashi> i have Athlon64
[05:27] <ReWT_AxS> did you try the 32 bit one?
[05:27] <greenwom> eae what kind of wireless card do you have>
[05:27] <kasemodz> i didn't use to have this problem before but it just happened. I did disable ipv6 last week but i didn't feel any noticeable difference.
[05:27] <Munchkinguy> Someone please help!
[05:27] <ReWT_AxS> !help
[05:27] <YukiCuss> !helpme
[05:27] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:28] <kasemodz> i also had privoxy and tor installed but i uninstalled em, however I didn't uninstall it completely. could that be the problem?
[05:28] <Munchkinguy> ubotuL I did ask a question
[05:28] <YukiCuss> Munchkinguy, ubotu is just a bot.
[05:28] <Neurosis> Is there any good free news group servers or a free usenet that i can use with Pan?
[05:28] <sweven> heheh
[05:28] <Munchkinguy> *ubotu
[05:28] <YukiCuss> Munchkinguy, fact is that many of us are just looking at the channel now, so we don't see your original request.
[05:28] <eae> greenwom, Intel proset or something like that
[05:28] <Munchkinguy> oh
[05:28] <ReWT_AxS> Munchkinguy, ask again. I don't see a question.
[05:29] <jayr168> is running kde apps in gnome not recommended?
[05:29] <sweven> Anyone have any last ditch advice for me to salvage this installation operation?
[05:29] <YukiCuss> jayr168, it's not *not* recommended, it just may look out of place.
[05:29] <Sashi> should i use x86? would it work?
[05:29] <sweven> Maybe try to get the Live CD working and poke around?
[05:29] <ReWT_AxS> sweven...whats the matter?
[05:29] <Munchkinguy> Well, I'm trying to "add" a printer in Xubuntu, but I don't know how (it's easier in GNOME)
[05:29] <tristil> How do I tell metacity to use Nautilus instead of Thunar in Gnome after trying Xubuntu?
[05:29] <ReWT_AxS> Sashi, it should.
[05:29] <eae> greenwom, is that enough or do you need more specifics?
[05:30] <tristil> I don't see the option in gconf.
[05:30] <sweven> I've tried to install 4 times, with 2 different CDs and I always get "Operating System not found"
[05:30] <Sashi> but
[05:30] <Sashi> whats the diff
[05:30] <ReWT_AxS> sweven, you dual booting?
[05:30] <Sashi> between x86 and the x86_amd
[05:30] <YukiCuss> Munchkinguy, perhaps just use gnome-cups-manager
[05:30] <sweven> nope
[05:30] <ReWT_AxS> Are you setting up your partition correctly?
[05:30] <sweven> I wiped the entire 20 GB hard drive
[05:30] <sweven> I used the guided partitioning
[05:31] <jodanlime> has anybody set up a scanner in breezy?
[05:31] <mikes_> can somebody help me,when i strt synaptic t get this error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gt.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/'universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gt.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_'universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:31] <mikes_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gt.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse' Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[05:31] <YukiCuss> jodanlime, from what I've heard, my friend just plugged it in, and pressed `Scan.'
[05:32] <ReWT_AxS> mikes_, it's your repositories.
[05:32] <ReWT_AxS> type sudo apt-get update in terminal
[05:32] <Sashi> is there really a difference between the x86 and the 64bit releases?
[05:32] <ReWT_AxS> See if that helps the error. Close synaptic before you do this.
[05:32] <jodanlime> YukiCuss, yeah, I tried that, it didnt work at all
[05:32] <ReWT_AxS> Sashi, yes.
[05:32] <ReWT_AxS> sweven, have you check forums?
[05:33] <Sashi> and that is?
[05:33] <joseph> hey I have a question
[05:33] <joseph> so
[05:33] <mikes_> but how can i fix the repositoriess
[05:33] <ReWT_AxS> I hear a lot of people were having similar problems as you and there are some tutorials there.
[05:33] <joseph> could I change my sources.list to dapper
[05:33] <joseph> would that work
[05:33] <ReWT_AxS> Sashi, one is 32 biy the other is 64?
[05:33] <ReWT_AxS> *bit
[05:33] <Sashi> lol?
[05:33] <ReWT_AxS> :-P
[05:34] <Sashi> well im redownloading 64bit one again
[05:34] <sweven> ReWT_AxS, yes I searched the forums but I couldn't find anything conclusive
[05:34] <ReWT_AxS> Sashi, don't forget to check the md5sum
[05:34] <bimberi> joseph: you want to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[05:34] <ReWT_AxS> sweven, let me have a look, hold on.
[05:35] <joseph> bimberi: yea I think so does that sound right
[05:35] <bimberi> !tell joseph about upgrade
[05:35] <sweven> ReWT_AxS, I really appreciate it!  Thanks
[05:35] <ReWT_AxS> sweven, not a problem.
[05:35] <neo911> one thing w ubuntu that i like i havent encountered that i was asked to close an application when im installing or updating modules? how is that possible? or maybe i just haven't encountered installing a pkg that is in use at the time? do i make sense? :-)
[05:35] <YukiCuss> neo911, you won't have to close programs.
[05:36] <jodanlime> !sane
[05:36] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jodanlime
[05:36] <eae> Ok, one more time. I have a Intel ProSet Wireless card that works fine in Windows. However, I cannot use in Ubuntu. What could be wrong?
[05:36] <YukiCuss> neo911, binaries are loaded into memory, the actual file isn't locked when you're casually using programs, unlike in Windows.
[05:36] <Madpilot> !tell eae about wireless
[05:37] <eae> Ok thanks
[05:37] <Madpilot> !tell jodanlime about scanner
[05:37] <mikes_> hye i got this problem  whe i do "sudo apt-get update" y get this error
[05:37] <IamEthos> I have a swap partition on an external hard drive
[05:37] <mikes_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gt.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/'unive rse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gt.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_'uni verse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:37] <IamEthos> but I don't always have the hard drive with me
[05:37] <Munchkinguy> YukiCuss: Thank you, it worked.
[05:37] <IamEthos> so would it be better to comment it out and swapon after startup
[05:37] <YukiCuss> Munchkinguy, neat.
[05:37] <jodanlime> Madpilot, yeah, I'm reading that now but its not helping any
[05:37] <IamEthos> or leave it in fstab and deal with the errors?
[05:38] <bimberi> mikes_: it looks like you have a typo on your sources.list - does it have >>'unive rse<< instead of just universe somewhere
[05:38] <z6bt> hello what was the command to dist upgrade?
[05:38] <NickGarvey> apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:38] <bimberi> z6bt: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:38] <NickGarvey> aptitude.. is a front end for apt-get?
[05:38] <NickGarvey> to google!
[05:39] <neo911> YukiCuss, can i rephrase to make sure i understand... so windows lock the binaries in primary storage when it loads the app while ubuntu just loads the binary into ram but does not lock the copy in primary storage??
[05:39] <mikes_> thanks ill check
[05:39] <ispiked> does the ubuntu live-cd support lvm/lvm2?
[05:39] <bimberi> to ubotu!
[05:39] <YukiCuss> neo911, correct.
[05:39] <bimberi> !tell NickGarvey about aptitude
[05:39] <NickGarvey> . /msg ubotu aptitude :)
[05:39] <NickGarvey> oh thanks heh
[05:39] <ReWT_AxS> sweven, still here?
[05:39] <av|r3x> hi all
[05:39] <YukiCuss> neo911, Windows also loads it into RAM, but for some reason locks the copy on disk too.
[05:39] <Toma-> is there another way to mount a usbdisk so that it writes all the info when you move it, rather than when you unmount?
[05:39] <sweven> ReWT_AxS, yes
[05:40] <av|r3x> question: will ubuntu 5.10 have problems with my Intel Centrino Wifi onbaord?
[05:40] <makaveli> i need a biatch
[05:40] <ReWT_AxS> sweven, use pastebin to paste sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:40] <av|r3x> as in will it conect to hotspots, or do i have to massage it a lot first?
[05:40] <ispiked> Toma-: seems like I remember someone saying there was... maybe part of gnome.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> wireless can still be a hassle. :(
[05:41] <ispiked> av|r3x: do you mean dapper? 5.10 is breezy badger.
[05:41] <zanth> is anyone aware if xgl will be available with dapper?
[05:41] <av|r3x> ah
[05:41] <Toma-> ispiked: ok
[05:41] <av|r3x> so, ubuntu is no good for laptops?
[05:41] <ispiked> av|r3x: no, it's probably the best distro for laptops.
[05:41] <sweven> ReWT_AxS, should I do that when I get the Live CD running?
[05:41] <useruser> Toma-: wouldn't the disk have to see into the future?
[05:41] <ReWT_AxS> av|r3x, I have ubuntu running fine on my notebook...
[05:41] <neo911> YukiCuss, ahh :-)
[05:41] <bimberi> av|r3x: what model wireless card?
[05:41] <Sashi> hmm
[05:41] <ispiked> lvm(2) support on the live-cd... anyone... anyone?
[05:41] <Sashi> does dual booting only work
[05:42] <Sashi> if you have two partitions?
[05:42] <av|r3x> @ispkided, 5.10. I don't know its nick. its the most current iso i found on teh site
[05:42] <Sashi> it will work if you have two hdds right
[05:42] <av|r3x> just standard wifi onboard
[05:42] <Sashi> ;p
[05:42] <av|r3x> centrino
[05:42] <ispiked> av|r3x: ah, ok. it's called breezy badger fyi.
[05:42] <ReWT_AxS> sweven, do you have anything else on the hard drive?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> av|r3x,  i find it one of the best distros ive trie for laptops
[05:42] <Toma-> useruser: ...when i say "cp woot to /usbdisk/woot" it should copy then. not when i unmount. how is that the future? :)
[05:42] <bimberi> av|r3x: centrino implies it's probably intel for which the support is very good
[05:42] <useruser> Toma-: oh, i see. i thought you were asking the disk to predict when it was about to be unplugged, and write the data immediately beforehand
[05:42] <ispiked> Toma-: it doesn't copy it then?
[05:42] <av|r3x> i wanted to install debian, but now i thought about trying this one out
[05:42] <sweven> ReWT_AxS No, I wiped the whole thing and now it's just the main partition and the swap
[05:43] <mister_roboto> Dr_Willis: have you gotten suspend and hibernate to work though? i only had luck with Suse on that, outta the box
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> The problem is 'standard' wireless :) lol/ isent standard. sadly
[05:43] <ispiked> Toma-: I could've sworn it does.
[05:43] <av|r3x> thing is, suse does recognize the wifi onboard
[05:43] <Toma-> ispiked: its copying now, that ive passed umount
[05:43] <useruser> ispiked: it usually caches it
[05:43] <av|r3x> i thought that most every distro should do it
[05:43] <useruser> Toma-: you can run sync
[05:43] <ispiked> useruser: I still thought gnome supported "smart" unmounting when a drive was unplugged.
[05:43] <av|r3x> but i though about asking first, before trying
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> mister_roboto,  i disable those features even under XP. Nothing but problems with that stuff.
[05:43] <useruser> ispiked: physically unplugged? i don't see how
[05:43] <av|r3x> tnx 4 the info, ispiked
[05:43] <useruser> ispiked: if the data's cached at all, the os needs warning before unplugging
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> av|r3x,  the ubuntu wiki/forums is the place to look. :p
[05:43] <IcemanV9> anyone, will gparted revive the "dead" hd??
[05:43] <ispiked> useruser: maybe I just misunderstood what someone said.
[05:44] <mister_roboto> Dr_Willis: don't know why you'd do that. it's flawless under XP. I love suspend when moving laptop around. perfect for when you're bopping around meetings at work, for example
[05:44] <ReWT_AxS> sweven, Get on the live, run qtparted and make sure you have the right partition setup.
[05:44] <ispiked> av|r3x: yeah, no problem.
[05:44] <av|r3x> ubuntu wiki? i'll give it a try
[05:44] <ispiked> av|r3x: most wifi cards are supported.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> mister_roboto,  'flawless' it is not.
[05:44] <av|r3x> oh, and another thing: any nzb dl'ers? mac has hellanzb, i was hoping there is a clone of it somewhere
[05:44] <sweven> ReWT_AxS, Okay, I'll check it out, brb
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mister_roboto,  my problem is the hooking up of the devices and changing networks, and other doo dads. :P
[05:45] <pulgoki> can anyone tell me why firestarter would tell me i have active connetions yet when i run netstat -aut the connections that are supposedly open and active dont show?
[05:45] <ispiked> av|r3x: what is nzb?
[05:45] <av|r3x> tnk god about the wifi. i usually need to be connected 24/7
[05:45] <av|r3x> ah
[05:45] <av|r3x> nzb is a file protocol
[05:46] <eae> Ok, guys, back to the card thing. I found the following text on it:
[05:46] <eae> Card: [Intel]  PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[05:46] <eae>     * pciid: 8086:4220
[05:46] <eae>     * Driver: version 8.0.0 ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/7440/eng/intel%20wireless%20proset%20%20-%208.0.0.167%20generic%20.exe
[05:46] <eae>     * Driver (latest): version 8.1.1.0 ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/7819/eng/wireless%208.1.1.0%20-%20generic%20tic%2088663.exe Other: Tested on Debian with kernel 2.6.8, ndiswrapper 0.11, w22n51.inf from version 8.1.1.0. w22n50.inf from version 8.0.0 does not appear to work.
[05:46] <mister_roboto> Dr_Willis: A quick ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 usually fixes that  no problem :)
[05:46] <YukiCuss> !tell eae about patebin
[05:46] <YukiCuss> !tell eae about pastebin
[05:46] <eae> Sry
[05:46] <ispiked> eae: please pastebin that stuff in the future.
[05:46] <av|r3x> that's the card i got
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> mister_roboto,   I dont have a problem with Linux and it.. its windows xp thats a pain
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:46] <ispiked> av|r3x: eh?
[05:46] <ispiked> av|r3x: are ou eae?
[05:46] <eae> Hm?
[05:46] <av|r3x> a file protocol
[05:46] <ispiked> s/ou/you/
[05:46] <sweven> Wow!  The Live CD is actually working this time...  maybe the first one was a dud
[05:46] <av|r3x> similar to torrent
[05:47] <ispiked> hrm...
[05:47] <av|r3x> nope
[05:47] <av|r3x> not eae
[05:47] <eae> I have no idea what's going on.
[05:47] <av|r3x> but i got the same card
[05:47] <eae> And it works?
[05:47] <nubi> hello
[05:47] <av|r3x> that's the question i had to begin with
[05:47] <av|r3x> have no clue
[05:47] <eae> Try it?
[05:47] <av|r3x> i'll try it ou
[05:47] <eae> :)
[05:48] <av|r3x> yea
[05:48] <eae> :(
[05:48] <ispiked> av|r3x: ok, I have that same wifi card as well, and it works right out of the box.
[05:48] <nubi> hi how to start apache in ubuntu?
[05:48] <eae> Mine doesn't.
[05:48] <pescuesito> alguna chava?
[05:48] <eae> What should I do?
[05:48] <mikes_> sorry  but when i install something with apt-get i get this  Couldn't stat source package list http://gt.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/'unive rse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gt.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_'uni verse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:48] <pescuesito> que hable espaol?
[05:48] <av|r3x> excellent ispiked
[05:48] <ispiked> nubi: do you have it installed?
[05:48] <ispiked> !tell pescuesito about spanish
[05:49] <nubi> ispiked : yes...
[05:49] <pescuesito> hello
[05:49] <pescuesito> im not inglish
[05:49] <nubi> my friend has install cactii for me
[05:49] <av|r3x> a question: any app in debian repos
[05:49] <pescuesito> im mexican
[05:49] <IcemanV9> pescuesito: #ubuntu-es
[05:49] <av|r3x> may be installed on ubuntu?
[05:49] <nubi> but when i restart my ubuntu
[05:49] <ispiked> nubi: try /etc/init.d/apache start.
[05:49] <eae> ispiked and av|r3x, mine doesn't work out the box. Now what?
[05:49] <ispiked> eae: odd...
[05:49] <nubi> thx
[05:50] <eae> ispiked, did you need to config it or something?
[05:50] <av|r3x> i'll install it, then call back
[05:50] <eae> Do anything?
[05:50] <ispiked> eae: so `iwconfig -a' doesn't show any supported wireless interfaces?
[05:50] <av|r3x> i haven't installed ubuntu yet
[05:50] <eae> Hold on
[05:50] <ispiked> eae: also, does `dmesg |grep ipw' show anything?
[05:50] <eae> Ok, hold on
[05:51] <mockme> hi guys
[05:51] <mockme> is there a flash for linux?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[05:51] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:51] <ReWT_AxS> mockme, yes.
[05:51] <eae> ispiked, first one says "No such device", second does nothing.
[05:51] <av|r3x> debian apps do install and ru properly on ubuntu?
[05:51] <mockme> ReWT_AxS, what is that>
[05:52] <useruser> av|r3x: not necessarily
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> av|r3x,  best to use the ubuntu repos. not debian packages.
[05:52] <ReWT_AxS> !tell mockme about flash
[05:52] <av|r3x> k tnx
[05:52] <eae> ispiked, are you sure -a is a valid flag?
[05:52] <ispiked> eae: yes, it just tells it to show all the interfaces.
[05:52] <ispiked> eae: I think.
[05:52] <mockme> ReWT_AxS, i mean the development package
[05:52] <ispiked> eae: try just plain `iwconfig'.
[05:53] <eae> That gives instructions.
[05:53] <eae> No sorry.
[05:53] <eae> Just kidding.
[05:53] <eae> !pastebin
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[05:53] <knight> hi
[05:54] <knight> I am having problems with video display
[05:54] <ispiked> eae: I honestly don't know why that card wouldn't work out of the box.
[05:54] <ispiked> eae: I guess the only difference between mine and yours is that mine is ipw2000 ABG.
[05:54] <eae> ispiked, here's what I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10705
[05:55] <ispiked> eae: aha. you're in better shape than you thought you were.
[05:55] <knight> I have a laptop averatec 1000
[05:55] <eae> ispiked :)
[05:55] <IamEthos> whenever I run disks manager, I get an error saying "Could not find /tmp/disks-conf-sda1."
[05:55] <IamEthos> why?
[05:55] <knight> display  resolution is low
[05:55] <ispiked> eae: try doing `sudo ifup eth1'.
[05:56] <ispiked> IamEthos: tried googling that error?
[05:56] <IamEthos> nope
[05:56] <IamEthos> I'll check it out
[05:56] <ispiked> IamEthos: don't include the sda1 part, because that's probably specific to your system.
[05:56] <knight> My display resolution is low
[05:57] <knight> I need resolution to be higher I have a averatec 1000
[05:57] <ispiked> knight: are their larger ones available in the gnome settings for resolution?
[05:57] <knight> no
[05:57] <knight> jusy
[05:57] <hayden> whats a program that i can rip an mp3 from a mpg video file?
[05:57] <fr500> hello
[05:57] <eae> ispiked, "ifup: interface eth1 already configured" I tried configuring it earlier without having any idea what I was doing
[05:57] <ispiked> knight: ok... you might need to add something to your xorg.conf to fix that.
[05:57] <knight> ok
[05:58] <knight> what should I add
[05:58] <ispiked> eae: try doing `sudo dhclient eth1'.
[05:58] <IamEthos> ispiked: three responses, 1 in french and 2 irrelevant
[05:58] <fr500> hi
[05:58] <fr500> can u read me?
[05:58] <ispiked> knight: not sure exactly.
[05:58] <knight> lol
[05:58] <knight> wow
[05:58] <IamEthos> I get that error whenever the hard drive isn't mounted or isn't connected
[05:59] <eae> ispiked, what am I supposed to be seeing?
[05:59] <IamEthos> for some reason it only complains about sda1
[05:59] <IamEthos> not the others
[05:59] <ispiked> eae: should see some stuff printed out about it trying to get an ip addresss.
[05:59] <knight> anybody can help me fix resolution for averatec 1000
[05:59] <ispiked> knight: back up xorg.conf before you do anything.
[06:00] <knight> ok
[06:00] <dcgarri> just installed ubuntu.. still sort of new with linux... just need to know how to "execute" a .run file
[06:00] <ispiked> knight: then look where the other resolutions are mentioned, and try adding a similar section for your desired resolution.
[06:00] <knight> ok
[06:00] <knight> thanks
[06:00] <ispiked> dcgarri: where did this .run file come from?
[06:00] <eae> ispiked, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10707
[06:01] <knight> sh ./ and the file name
[06:01] <knight> I think
[06:01] <dcgarri> It's an ATI installation utility
[06:01] <dcgarri> ok, i try
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[06:01] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:02] <ispiked> eae: ok. so you're sure there's a router close by that's willing to give you an IP?
[06:02] <joseph> is gnome 2.14 in dapper?
[06:02] <ispiked> joseph: yeah.
[06:02] <ispiked> eae: how is your router set up?
[06:02] <ispiked> eae: if you even know.
[06:02] <eae> ispiked, ehm... It's the university's.
[06:03] <ispiked> eae: do they use any type of password/key for their wireless?
[06:03] <Toba> argh, why is php5 not in the breezy repositories?
[06:03] <IamEthos> is it possible to change the owner of a vfat partition?
[06:03] <eae> ispiked, usually when you have wireless on, no mattter what site you try to access, it'll forward you to the login site
[06:03] <IamEthos> or at least give read/write access to another user
[06:03] <ispiked> IamEthos: when you mount it you can specify that stuff.
[06:03] <Hobbsee> eae: what's the essid for the uni?  is it shown in iwconfig?
[06:04] <Hobbsee> eae: if not, specify it manually, then do a dhclient again.  that's waht i have to do for my uni
[06:04] <ispiked> eae: ok, but that shouldn't prevent you from actually connecting, afaik.
[06:04] <eae> Hobbsee, "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10707"
[06:04] <eae> sry
[06:04] <eae> no
[06:04] <jodanlime> anybody know how to get an actec_eplus48u scanner to work in ubuntu, or in debian, because on the wiki it says that nobody has been able to do it in breezy yet
[06:04] <IcemanV9> Toba: yes, it's there - 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy)
[06:04] <jodanlime> artec*
[06:04] <eae> Hobbsee, "eth1      unassociated  ESSID:off/any"
[06:04] <ispiked> eae: yeah, Hobbsee has some good advice.
[06:04] <Toba> IcemanV9: awesome!
[06:04] <ispiked> eae: do you know the essid of the school's network?
[06:05] <eae> ispiked, no sir.
[06:05] <ispiked> eae: do `iwlist eth1 scan' and see what that outputs.
[06:05] <Hobbsee> eae: yes, i saw.  use iwlist eth1 scan
[06:05] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:05] <joseph> anyone here use epiphany as their main browser
[06:05] <ispiked> joseph: what's your question. usually surveys don't yield help.
[06:06] <joseph> don't need help
[06:06] <joseph> just wonderin
[06:06] <IamEthos> can I specify that in the fstab file?
[06:06] <eae> ispiked, Hobbsee : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10708
[06:07] <ispiked> eae: hrm...
[06:07] <Hobbsee> eae: which uni do you go to?  do they have a link to their wireless stuff on one of their pages?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[06:07] <ubotu> from memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:08] <eae> Hobbsee, University of Miami. Could the problem be that it's set on ad hoc?
[06:08] <Aaronfromchina> no idea.
[06:08] <Hobbsee> eae: do you have the webpage for that?  it's likely to be on there
[06:08] <holobyted> how do I config gnome to open all dialog boxes in the center of the screen?
[06:09] <eae> Hobbsee, the webpage for wireless log-in?
[06:09] <Hobbsee> eae: if you cant figure it out, i'd leach off WirelessCanes - as it has no encryption, and is one of the fast ones
[06:09] <Hobbsee> eae: yeah, or just wireless info in general
[06:09] <eae> Hobbsee, wireless canes is the wireless here
[06:09] <eae> Hobbsee, Miami isn't big on Internet security
[06:10] <Hobbsee> eae: so that's the one you want to connect to?  do a "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid WirelessCanes"
[06:10] <Hobbsee> then try iwconfig, check that it's now showing, if not, repeat step 1, and then run a dhclient
[06:10] <Hobbsee> then, hopefully, you'll be connected
[06:10] <Hobbsee> then again, our uni network is open too - but there is a webpage to sign into if you want to view http stuff...
[06:11] <ispiked> Hobbsee: is an ad hoc network a legitimate wifi network?
[06:11] <Hobbsee> ispiked: not sure on that one - i think it relies on computer to computer connections, rather than to an AP
[06:11] <Hobbsee> if it works though, go for it :P
[06:11] <ispiked> Hobbsee: yeah.
[06:11] <eae> Hobbsee, I think the other one is faster
[06:11] <coz> can anyone tell me about vnc
[06:12] <Hobbsee> some of my uni stuff is ad-hoc, some is managed.  depends which AP i connect to
[06:12] <Hobbsee> !tell coz about vnc
[06:12] <ispiked> Hobbsee: afaik, you can't connect to ad hoc wifi networks.
[06:13] <ispiked> coz: what do you want to know about it?
[06:13] <ispiked> eae: so did you do what Hobbsee told you about setting the essid and running dhclient again?
[06:13] <coz> ispiked, I have this applications named vnc2swf which does flash movies of desktop
[06:13] <Hobbsee> ispiked: you may well not be able to - kwifimanager refers to ad hoc networks, but i've never been terribly sucessful with that program
[06:13] <coz> it uses the vnc server to do this but I hav enever used either
[06:14] <ispiked> coz: read the documentation on them... I'm sure it tells you how.
[06:14] <IamEthos> so the default is suid
[06:14] <Eleaf> Man, I'm getting pretty bad freezups in Ubuntu on my server
[06:14] <IamEthos> I don't want that
[06:14] <Eleaf> I think it's only in X, but it has gotten substantially worse
[06:14] <ispiked> Eleaf: might be a bad driver.
[06:14] <Eleaf> Liek freezes within 2 seconds..
[06:14] <coz> ispiked, good idea but I have tried that  but thanks
[06:14] <regeya_> vnc2swf is awesome.  yes, you need a vnc server.
[06:14] <Eleaf> ispiked: really?
[06:15] <Eleaf> Wouldn't think that would be a problem in linux, hmm.
[06:15] <ispiked> Eleaf: my only experience with freezing was when using a bad ndiswrapper driver.
[06:15] <Eleaf> humm
[06:15] <Eleaf> I see.
[06:15] <ispiked> eae: still around?
[06:16] <regeya_> my only ubuntu experience with freezing had to do with powernowd
[06:16] <Eleaf> Will somebody try ethanlofton.no-ip.org and make sure my server is still hosting?
[06:17] <ispiked> Eleaf: wfm.
[06:17] <Eleaf> ?
[06:17] <Eleaf> wfm?
[06:17] <ispiked> Eleaf: works for me.
[06:17] <Eleaf> oh ok
[06:17] <Eleaf> you get the page?
[06:17] <ispiked> Eleaf: haha. the live screenshot thing is great.
[06:17] <Eleaf> hehe
[06:17] <Eleaf> ispiked: It isn't running right now though
[06:18] <Eleaf> ispiked: I don't have X running currently.
[06:18] <Puffball> When running a configuration script, I keep getting "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" even after reinstalling cpp, and nothing seems to work.
[06:18] <Eleaf> made a little python script.
[06:18] <ispiked> Eleaf: I don't even have x installed on my server.
[06:18] <Eleaf> yea
[06:18] <eae> Hobbsee, ispiked : "eth1      IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"WirelessCanes""
[06:18] <eae> Good?
[06:18] <Eleaf> ispiked: I do use this server for generally browsing and working on some stuff though (programming, etc.)
[06:19] <ispiked> Eleaf: yeah.
[06:19] <Eleaf> ispiked: I wouldn't have X installed normally on this server, but it's multi-purpose.
[06:19] <eae> Ok, something went definately wrong.
[06:19] <ispiked> eae: ok. now do `sudo dhclient eth1'.
[06:19] <mikes_> i need help please, i think i ruin my sorce.list , how can i fixed
[06:19] <Eleaf> anyways, I'm installing upgrading to dapper, who knows, it might fix the freezups ispiked .
[06:19] <ispiked> Eleaf: yep.
[06:20] <Eleaf> I also think it might be due to the processor overheating, haven't had this problem yet not running X though, so who knows
[06:20] <sweven> Thanks for your help everyone, I'm going to start fresh tomorrow and get to the bottom of this!
[06:21] <Hobbsee> !tell mikes_ about repos
[06:22] <z6bt> hello what is the package to make an nfs servger
[06:22] <z6bt> i tried to apt-cache but all i get is webmin
[06:22] <z6bt> and i know thats not it
[06:22] <ispiked> z6bt: there might not be one.
[06:22] <eae> ispiked, I think it worked. How to check?
[06:22] <eae> ispiked, deactive land line?
[06:22] <danf_1979> anyone has a howto for installing apache mod_security?
[06:22] <ispiked> eae: well...
[06:23] <eae> ispiked, did you say something?
[06:23] <ispiked> eae: what's ifconfig look like?
[06:23] <ispiked> eae: no, just "well...".
[06:23] <fr500> does anyone here use an ipsec vpn?
[06:23] <z6bt> anyone here set up an nfs server?
[06:23] <jmorris1> hmm
[06:24] <Eleaf> ispiked: I wonder how I should get some of these processes down.  I'm currently running 75 processes with no X.   (come on, I should get it to be like 10 ;))
[06:24] <Eleaf> =p
[06:24] <ispiked> Eleaf: yeah, that does sound like a lot. :\
[06:24] <ispiked> danf_1979: the people in #apache might be of some help.
[06:24] <jmorris1> after using ubuntu for awhile now and having upgraded to dapper, this is the best linux to date :)
[06:25] <IcemanV9> Eleaf: wanna know the temp of CPU? type "acpi -V"
[06:25] <zF> Hi
[06:25] <jmorris1> fully usable, much faster than previous ones
[06:25] <jmorris1> on par with windows :)
[06:25] <zF> What's the terminal command to change a Hidden NTFS partition to a NTFS partition
[06:25] <jmorris1> heh
[06:25] <zF> fstab?
[06:25] <eae> ispiked, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10709 and my Internet connection is really unstable atm
[06:25] <Eleaf> IcemanV9: well, I usually use the lm-sensors module and 'sensors' to find the temp.
[06:26] <Eleaf> IcemanV9: this is an old AMD Duron and the temps sometimes get very, very high...
[06:26] <Eleaf> IcemanV9: like 36 C now.  Can get to upper 90's! lol
[06:27] <danf_1979> Ok ispiked, thanks...
[06:27] <ispiked> eae: looks good. you should be able to take down the LAN and be able to use wifi.
[06:27] <IcemanV9> Eleaf: ah. ok. mine shut down when it hits 72 C.
[06:27] <z6bt> 4/wc
[06:27] <berto-> hi everyone.  i am having trouble with my ubuntu box.  i started off using dhcp and then i changed it to a static IP.  in the dns information i set my nameservers, but daily, they keep getting wiped out.  any idea where i can permanently set them?
[06:27] <eae> ispiked, here goes nothing :)
[06:27] <Eleaf> IcemanV9: yea, this old thing gets pretty hot.
[06:28] <ubuntu> o.O
[06:28] <Eleaf> ispiked: dapper 8% ;)
[06:28] <Eleaf> ispiked: on my 256k up/down line yay.. lol
[06:28] <ispiked> Eleaf: ouch.
[06:29] <Eleaf> ispiked: I also have a 1.5 mbit down / 800 Kbps up line.
[06:29] <Eleaf> ispiked: I still insist on using this line for my server ;)
[06:29] <Eleaf> does quite well actually.
[06:29] <bingogu> so quick  are u using the cd-rom as your resources
[06:30] <Eleaf> Alright
[06:30] <Eleaf> Goodnight!
[06:30] <bingogu> Now is morning :p
[06:31] <ispiked> ah, should've told eae that he will need to reconnect.
[06:32] <zF> hi
[06:32] <zF> what is the terminal command to edit the /etc/fstab
[06:32] <ispiked> hi, zF.
[06:32] <ispiked> zF: what would you like to use to edit it?
[06:32] <zF> I need to change a Hidden NTFS to a NTFS partition type so that Windows will boot.
[06:32] <zF> Anything.
[06:32] <ispiked> zF: `sudo gedit /etc/fstab' should work.
[06:33] <ispiked> zF: or, if you want a command-line editor you could do `sudo nano /etc/fstab'.
[06:34] <ispiked> zF: oh, hold up. I don't think that can be done in fstab.
[06:34] <zF> last time I used a terminal tool
[06:34] <highvoltage> and if you don't, you can press ALT+F@, then type gksudo "gedit /etc/fstab"
[06:34] <zF> to edit the partition type
[06:34] <bingogu> my firefox can't open a button which attrib is <javascript:window.location('movie_list.asp?listType=%E5%8A%A8%E7%94%BB%E7%89%87')>
[06:34] <ispiked> zF: what makes you think you need to change the filesystem time?
[06:34] <highvoltage> (alt+F2, that is)
[06:34] <zF> ispiked: i've encounted this bug before
[06:34] <ispiked> bingogu: "can't open"?
[06:34] <zF> with dual booting
[06:35] <mockme> anyone here knows f4l?
[06:35] <ispiked> zF: seems like you'd need to use a partitioning program to change that.
[06:35] <vinux> Any ideas how to fix totem-xine's plugin in mozilla to stop freezing? It starts with no sound and just stops
[06:35] <zF> ispiked: Yes, I've used a terminal one to before.
[06:35] <ispiked> zF: /etc/fstab only tells linux what to do with partitions.
[06:35] <jayr168> how do I change mouse wheel sensitivity in gnome?
[06:35] <jayr168> how do I change mouse wheel sensitivity in gnome?
[06:35] <ispiked> zF: cfdisk maybe?
[06:35] <ispiked> jayr168: it's under system > prefs. > mouse.
[06:36] <jayr168> its not there, I mean the mouse scrol wheel sensitivity
[06:36] <ispiked> jayr168: oh... hrm...
[06:36] <ispiked> vinux: the one that I've had the most luck with is mplayerplug-in.
[06:37] <ispiked> vinux: embedded video on linux sucks for the most part, though. :(
[06:37] <vinux> ispiked, yea mplayer is trusty but I just thought I try out the totem plugin
[06:37] <zF> ispiked: Yes, it's cfdisk
[06:37] <zF> Just found it in google.
[06:38] <zF> Thanks.
[06:38] <ispiked> zF: cool. I can usually never remember the name of it either.
[06:38] <jsmidt> I am trying to configure mutt.  How do I configure it to take mail from gmail's pop server pop.gmail.com?
[06:38] <ispiked> zF: just remember that it's in curses. so if you google curses paritioning it usually comes up.
[06:38] <jsmidt> do I make a change in .muttrc to get mail off a pop server?
[06:39] <ispiked> basanta: please describe your problem in more detail.
[06:39] <mockme> anyone here can help me installing f4l or flash for linux
[06:39] <ispiked> mockme: using firefox?
[06:40] <ardchoille> mockme: you mean flash in firefox?
[06:40] <bingogu> yes
[06:40] <mockme> ispiked, nope i mean the development package
[06:40] <nanang> i can't use gmake to install postgre in my ubuntu
[06:40] <bingogu> no idont mean flash
[06:40] <ispiked> bingogu: that question was not directed at you.
[06:40] <nanang> where ican find this <file> ?
[06:41] <bingogu> what's wrong with my browser
[06:41] <nanang> i use Synaptic to search from repository but i cannot find it
[06:41] <nanang> can anyone here help me?
[06:41] <ispiked> bingogu: what do you mean you "can't open" a link like that?
[06:41] <ispiked> nanang: you're looking for what?
[06:42] <jbritz22> hey all, how do I mount my cdroms
[06:42] <CrocoJet> SV
[06:42] <ajoshi> mount /dev/cdrom
[06:42] <ispiked> jbritz22: they should automount.
[06:42] <coz> jbritz22, put one leg over then theother???
[06:42] <dman-> is there any known issues with the ubuntu installer and some scsi cards
[06:42] <coz> sorry
[06:42] <jbritz22> lol @ coz
[06:42] <jbritz22> but theres nothing in the media cdrom folders
[06:43] <jbritz22> so iunno whats up with that
[06:43] <bingogu> ispiked i press the button but it doesn't open a  for me
[06:43] <coz> jbritz22, sorry it ws right there I had no control
[06:43] <ispiked> bingogu: ok. it's probably something that's wrong with the site, not firefox.
[06:43] <nanang> ispiked : gmake
[06:43] <coz> dman-, what scsi card are you using???
[06:43] <ispiked> bingogu: does anything related to that link show up in tools > javascript console?
[06:43] <rob138> can someone please help me configure grub to boot to my secondary harddrive which has windows on it at /dev/sda1?
[06:43] <dman-> its a sym*** somthing card
[06:43] <dman-> coz the *card* detects fine in dmesg
[06:44] <ispiked> nanang: dunno... I always use `make'.
[06:44] <dman-> but the drives connected to it dont show up
[06:44] <coz> dman-, mm I use adaptec i ak not sure let me check
[06:44] <dman-> i think its an issue with 'megaraid' driver
[06:44] <jbritz22> so why didnt my cdrom automount?
[06:44] <ispiked> rob138: it should pick up the windows drive...
[06:44] <ispiked> rob138: trying running update-grub.
[06:44] <ajoshi> what happens when u type mount /media/cdrom
[06:44] <bingogu> ispiked yes wrong msg was shown in the javaconsole
[06:45] <ispiked> bingogu: ok, then you know it's the site's problem and not firefox's.
[06:45] <ispiked> bingogu: you can e-mail the site about it if you want to. I doubt that'll do anything, though.
[06:45] <rob138> ispiked, it only finds the ubuntu installation i am on
[06:45] <ispiked> rob138: hrm...
[06:45] <coz> dman-, is this on a mac??
[06:45] <jbritz22> ajoshi it mounted
[06:45] <jbritz22> and worked
[06:45] <dman-> coz nah
[06:45] <jbritz22> ahhaa
[06:45] <jbritz22> lol
[06:46] <dman-> coz ill boot and get some dmesg info
[06:46] <coz> dman-, i am finding most of the problems to be associated with macs
[06:46] <bingogu> ispiked is it? but it's work under IE
[06:46] <ispiked> bingogu: the site is probably using some ie-specific javascript.
[06:47] <bingogu> ispiked the site's for MS only,OK, i.c.
[06:47] <bingogu> ispiked thks for your kind help
[06:48] <rob138> if windows isn't on the primary harddrive can it still boot? i have ubuntu set as primary at IDE and windows is secondary on SATA and i dont know how to configure grub to boot into windows? can anyone help
[06:51] <dman> coz it loads a symbios driver for scsi
[06:52] <coz> dman, hold on i will check
[06:52] <ispiked> bingogu: you're welcome.
[06:52] <ispiked> rob138: the people in #grub might be of some help. I honestly don't know how to do it manually.
[06:53] <rob138> ispiked, no one seems to like to talk in #grub
[06:53] <coz> dman,  try this i will keep looking http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/934004087731
[06:54] <ispiked> rob138: searched on the ubuntu forums any?
[06:54] <rob138> ispiked, tried but cant seem to find the right keywords
[06:55] <ispiked> rob138: maybe "grub windows"?
[06:56] <wenko> ahahahahaha
[06:56] <coz> dman,  that is the extent of what I could find however if you want to check again , google, ubuntu install hang then the scsi driver name
[06:56] <ispiked> rob138: I'm off to bed. good luck.
[06:56] <rob138> ispiked thanks
[06:57] <dman> coz k
[06:58] <dman> i wonder if i can somehow boot using a gentoo cd
[06:58] <dman> then install ubuntu fromt hat
[06:58] <dman> that*
[06:59] <coz> dman,  i may be the wrong person to ask that question to but I am sure someonehere could help
[07:00] <coz> dman,  it is early morining on the east coast of us so it depends on who lives where and if they are awake
[07:00] <coz> US
[07:00] <coz> good luck let me know if  tomorrow if you found an answer
[07:02] <mockme> hi
[07:02] <mockme> anyone knows how to fix these error
[07:02] <mockme> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:02] <mockme>   f4lm: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.3-3) but it is not installable
[07:02] <mockme> E: Broken packages
[07:05] <berto-> can someone point me to a howto on making source .deb packages?
[07:07] <schmirgo> hi, i want to start a script after gdm started up but before i logged in. where do i have to place the command for the script?
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> mockme: The default response is try apt-get -f install and see what it thinks it can do to fix it for you.  If that's got nothing, then neither do I.  Good luck.
[07:07] <nalioth> mockme: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin instead (read the /topic)
[07:08] <nalioth> berto-: visit debian.org and look at "the new maintainers guide"
[07:08] <mockme> k tenks
[07:08] <mockme> sowee
[07:08] <berto-> nalioth: i think i've already been there.  it simply talks about making a .deb for a single binary.  or i may be thinking of another howto.
[07:09] <omega21> hi there, im having an issue with launchpad/shipit..
[07:09] <nalioth> berto-: there is no such thing as a "source deb"
[07:09] <omega21> im not getting an activation email after 2 weeks..
[07:09] <alekz> i need some help, im on dapper flight 5, system does not reconize my printer, and i go to System > Administration > Printing but a error is displayed that says: "The CUPS server could not be contacted" but i took a look into /etc/init.d and cupsys is running, what can i do ?
[07:10] <nalioth> alekz: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[07:10] <omega21> anyone?
[07:10] <wenko> no idea omega
[07:10] <alekz> thanks nalioth
[07:10] <omega21> ok
[07:12] <malv> windows cannot deal gracefully with partitions not of its own type
[07:13] <ReWT_AxS> err
[07:13] <ReWT_AxS> i have a force quit windows stuck in the middle of my screen and it's ontop of everything....how can i get it off?
[07:13] <ReWT_AxS> says press esc but when i do nothing happens
[07:17] <Seede> is there an easy way of transfering my entire ubuntu install to another computer? so i can use it without having to reinstall?
[07:19] <ReWT_AxS> err yea there was something on that in the forums
[07:19] <protocol1> id preffer just doing a data backup.....and have the install detect the new system etc
[07:21] <Seede> mmmm yes but just doing a data backup means having to install every last piece of software again doesnt it? i mean can i just 'dd' an imagine of my current setup and move that?
[07:23] <protocol1> yeah ...checkthe forms like ReWT was saying
[07:23] <protocol1> your prolly better off
[07:24] <Seede> yeah ok thanx
[07:25] <Seede> this looks interesting for your approach protocol: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto
[07:26] <ReWT_AxS> Seede, whats that stand for?
[07:26] <ReWT_AxS> your handle
[07:26] <Karaking> hi guys
[07:26] <ReWT_AxS> my friend uses seetie
[07:26] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[07:27] <Seede> just a name
[07:27] <Karaking> i need help... don't know what to do to enable identd with xchat on dapper drake 6.06...
[07:27] <ReWT_AxS> karak
[07:27] <ReWT_AxS> ubuntu+1 is dapper channel? maybe more people can help there
[07:27] <Karaking> yes?
[07:28] <ReWT_AxS> !dapper
[07:28] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[07:28] <alekz> Karaking, ask on #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[07:28] <berto-> nalioth: so, what exactly is happening when you do apt-get source blah?
[07:28] <Karaking> thanks man ^__^
[07:28] <protocol1> cool june first
[07:28] <Karaking> i'll go there
[07:28] <ReWT_AxS> No problem.
[07:29] <nalioth> berto-: it downloads only the patched source code from the repos (if you have your deb-src lines enabled)
[07:29] <altos> Dapper Drake on my vaio laptop hangs some time after booting... booting with acpi=off help... what is the reason?
[07:29] <nalioth> altos: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper help and discussion
[07:31] <Auckland_Pig> how can i start a program in minimized mode? i want to start VLC minimized....
[07:32] <nalioth_zZz> Auckland_Pig: open a console and type "vlc --help"
[07:33] <Nameeater> how can I attempt to recover an accidentally deleted folder?
[07:33] <Auckland_Pig> nalioth_zZz: it doesnt say how to minimize...
[07:34] <nalioth_zZz> Auckland_Pig: it doesnt have a "start minimized " option?
[07:34] <kangpeh> Auckland_Pig:  Unfortunately, it is possible that the software does not offer a 'start minimized' option.
[07:34] <kangpeh> Auckland_Pig:  For your best bet, you may want to refer to the VLC Media Player documentation.
[07:34] <Auckland_Pig> nalioth_zZz: no it doesnt :(
[07:35] <Auckland_Pig> kangpeh: ok...
[07:35] <kangpeh> Auckland_Pig:  Make sure you let us know if you find out any new information related to this topic.
[07:35] <kangpeh> Auckland_Pig:  The sharing of information is what drives Open Source!
[07:35] <Auckland_Pig> oh sure.... kangpeh
[07:35] <kangpeh> =)
[07:35] <Auckland_Pig> but whom should i tell?
[07:36] <kangpeh> Auckland_Pig:  You could even make a nice little HOW-TO:  "HOWTO:  Start VLC Media Player Minimized:
[07:36] <kangpeh> ;)
[07:36] <Auckland_Pig> kangpeh: lol...
[07:40] <Kovecses> dead in here
[07:42] <earthen> what do I need to install to un-rar rar files
[07:42] <protocol1> yeah it is quite slow compared to the times ive seen it
[07:42] <kangpeh> sudo apt-get install rar
[07:42] <Fujitsu> unrar-nonfree
[07:42] <kangpeh> unrar-nonfree
[07:42] <kangpeh> sorry ;)
[07:43] <earthen> so apt-get unrar-nonfree
[07:43] <kangpeh> sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[07:43] <kangpeh> if thta is the package name lol
[07:43] <Auckland_Pig> when i click "System -> Preferences -> multimedia system selector" i get an error "Cannot launch entry: failed to execute child process gstreamer-properties: no such file exists"
[07:43] <VR_> i just do sudo apt-get install rar
[07:43] <VR_> and it works
[07:44] <kangpeh> VR_: Me too
[07:44] <kangpeh> :D
[07:44] <VR_> =)
[07:44] <Auckland_Pig> how about using 7z for unraring?
[07:44] <defrysk> in dapper its just rar yes
[07:44] <earthen> well it worked so
[07:44] <defrysk> in breezy its unrar-nonfree
[07:45] <defrysk> in dapper its unrar even
[07:46] <earthen> anyone running draper 64 bit
[07:47] <earthen> I'm running brezzy 64 running good was just wondering if upgrading to drapper is stable yet or at least farly stable
[07:48] <Auckland_Pig> i get soooo many errors with sound.... saying child process cannot execute... no such file exists
[07:48] <Auckland_Pig> but i can play music...
[07:48] <Auckland_Pig> just cant start volume manager or audacity and some programs
[07:49] <earthen> what sound Daemon you using
[07:49] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: i think its esd
[07:50] <UH^MERLIN> ne programers in here?
[07:50] <Mabus06> how come my system is so laggy? I have a 2.8ghz processor and 1gb of ram, and no processes in the system log are using much of it at all. But gedit shortcut doesn't work, only gedit from terminal. Totem plays horribly out of sync, and lags like 30 seconds between items on the playlist. Rhythmbox is just as bad. Can anybody please give me some ideas?
[07:50] <earthen> Auckland_Pig, ok same as me
[07:50] <Mabus06> UH^MERLIN: what is your question exactly?
[07:51] <UH^MERLIN> I have a few app's i coded for windows coded in VB and C++ , im wondering how i would go about porting them to linux as im new to the *NIX enviroment
[07:51] <earthen> Auckland_Pig,  mine is working fine but i had problems like that first when it was under ALSA
[07:51] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: no its not esd... i cant find esd in my system monitor
[07:51] <wenko> merlin just forget getting vb in *nix
[07:51] <Mabus06> UH^MERLIN: C++ generally works across platforms, depending on what the code is you should be able to compile the source on linux and run it like that.
[07:51] <wenko> err nux
[07:51] <Fujitsu> UH^MERLIN, VB has not a chance.
[07:52] <Mabus06> UH^MERLIN: as for VB, I am pretty sure that's just windows
[07:52] <earthen> check in the Multimedia systems selector
[07:52] <Auckland_Pig>  earthen : i kept changing all kinds of things... its not esd anymore.... how do i find out what i'm using
[07:52] <Fujitsu> UH^MERLIN, is C++ using MFC or Windows API calls?
[07:52] <Mabus06> UH^MERLIN: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:52] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: i cant even start it. :( it says failed to launch entry
[07:52] <UH^MERLIN> VB can be ported, my friend moorer from www.moorer-software.com has ported all his VB app's to linux but he is offline
[07:52] <earthen> Auckland_Pig,   go to System / preferances/
[07:52] <Auckland_Pig> earthen:  i did.... it gives some error message
[07:53] <Mabus06> UH^MERLIN: I think you misinterpreted him personally.... but if you say so.
[07:53] <UH^MERLIN> guess ill wait till he comes back online =D
[07:53] <YukiCuss> UH^MERLIN, I am convinced you are wrong.
[07:53] <earthen> Auckland_Pig, ok mmm I don't know how to fix that then, I'm really still a bit of a noob at this all
[07:53] <Mabus06> Basic (and VB) are windows languages.
[07:53] <Fujitsu> UH^MERLIN, VB would have to be completely rewritten. It is not portable at this time, and writing software to port it is very non-trivial.
[07:53] <kingspwned> depends if ported means rewrote
[07:53] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: thanks for trying to help me
[07:54] <Fujitsu> Porting it would involve rewriting.
[07:54] <earthen> Auckland_Pig,  no problem people in here helped me with my sound so I try and pass on what i have learned
[07:54] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: oh thanks...
[07:54] <altos> how can i add acpi=off option into grub loader?
[07:54] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: the strange thing is... i can play music... dvd's... blah blah blah...
[07:54] <Auckland_Pig> lol
[07:55] <Mabus06> altos: type it and press enter when at the boot prompt
[07:55] <YukiCuss> altos, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:55] <Frogzoo> altos: -> kopt
[07:55] <UH^MERLIN> i code alot of various crackers, example: SSH crackers etc.. i would like to port them and run them on my *NIX box
[07:55] <earthen> Auckland_Pig,  yeah I could to but it was really bad and laggy when i was using ALSA
[07:55] <Auckland_Pig> ok
[07:55] <altos> after editing menu.list do i have to run grub> root(hd0); setup(hd0) ??
[07:56] <kingspwned> altos; shouldnt be necessary to do anything, afaik
[07:56] <Frogzoo> altos: update-grub
[07:56] <altos> thanks all
[07:56] <Fujitsu> You don't need to
[07:56] <earthen> Auckland_Pig, I know there is a command line command to change it but I don't remember
[07:56] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: ok...
[07:57] <Mabus06> UH^MERLIN: check /msgs
[07:58] <UH^MERLIN> i just typed that command in
[07:58] <UH^MERLIN> says no such command
[07:58] <UH^MERLIN> on on the GAIM irc client
[07:58] <UH^MERLIN> im*
[07:58] <Mabus06> um
[07:58] <Mabus06> I /msg 'ed you
[07:58] <Mabus06> /msgs isn't a command
[07:59] <Mabus06> Oh, nm. You're not registered.
[07:59] <UH^MERLIN> i messaged u
[07:59] <Mabus06> /msg nickserv register password
[07:59] <earthen> Auckland_Pig,  try man esd in command line you mite find something
[07:59] <kangpeh> UH^MERLIN:  If you are able to write software that is able to crack, for instance, SSH and so forth, I feel you would be able to port said software without asking an IRC channel such as this one for help.
[07:59] <Mabus06> I can't read your messages because your nickname isn't registered, UH^MERLIN
[08:00] <Frogzoo> kangpeh: +1
[08:00] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: yes... must do that
[08:00] <UH^MERLIN> nick is reg'ed now
[08:00] <YukiCuss> UH^MERLIN, your discussion is getting a bit off topic.
[08:01] <earthen> Auckland_Pig,  good luck
[08:01] <Mabus06> Hence my suggestion for a /query
[08:01] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: thanks earthen
[08:01] <UH^MERLIN> brb
[08:01] <earthen> Auckland_Pig,  I'm heading to bed good night 3 am here
[08:01] <Fujitsu> kangpeh, +infinity
[08:01] <Auckland_Pig> earthen: g.nite
[08:02] <Auckland_Pig> or g.morning....
[08:02] <kingspwned> kangpeh, good point (to UH^MERLIN)
[08:03] <linuxboyfriend> hi ll
[08:03] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[08:03] <Fujitsu> Hi linuxboyfriend.
[08:03] <linuxboyfriend> how can i convert a .pdf file to .doc file
[08:03] <linuxboyfriend> Fujitsu, hi
[08:04] <Fujitsu> Non-trivial, linuxboyfriend.
[08:04] <linuxboyfriend> Fujitsu, Fujitsu! good nick
[08:05] <kangpeh> linuxboyfriend, to be honest, I wouldn't be able to give you a step by step method to convert a .PDF file to a .DOC file (if you are referring to the file formats).
[08:06] <ChankLappy> howdy ive got a question about vnc remote desktop
[08:06] <YukiCuss> !helpme
[08:06] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[08:06] <kangpeh> linuxboyfriend, however, if you are searching for software that can complete such a process for you, you maybe in luck by searching on your favorite search engine for "PDF to DOC Convertor, linux".
[08:06] <sfar-ubu> linuxboyfriend: googled?
[08:07] <linuxboyfriend> kangpeh, sfar-ubu: yes i am googling but most of the results are for windows
[08:07] <kangpeh> linuxboyfriend: I see.
[08:08] <firebird619> Is there a program for Ubuntu for creating slideshows and has the ability to add transition effects, audio, etc.
[08:08] <YukiCuss> firebird619, of course. OpenOffice.org Impress
[08:08] <kangpeh> firebird619:  You may be in luck with the OpenOffice Suite!
[08:08] <kangpeh> firebird619:  OpenOffice is said to be comparable to <and> better than other Office applications in many ways.
[08:09] <kangpeh> firebird619:  In addition, you can completely work with other file formats from other Office Suites very easily, including the large Office Suite written by Billy.
[08:09] <firebird619> I was thinking more for pictures, etc and then be able to burn them to CD and save to hard drive, etc.
[08:09] <rfmonk> I need a 'point me' to a howto configure .deb package manually plz...
[08:10] <Fujitsu> rfmonk, what do you mean?
[08:10] <rfmonk> oident.deb
[08:10] <ChankLappy> can someone help me with remote desktop?
[08:10] <rfmonk> didnt get it from repository
[08:10] <Fujitsu> You want to install it, rfmonk?
[08:10] <rfmonk> yes
[08:10] <Fujitsu> sudo dpkg -i oident.deb
[08:11] <Fujitsu> In a terminal...
[08:11] <Frogzoo> rfmonk: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[08:11] <dj-fu> Would anyone be able to tell me how I can make a .deb file from a .tar.gz with dpkg-buildpackage?
[08:11] <rfmonk> do you have to cd somewhere first?
[08:11] <rfmonk> okok thanks
[08:12] <Sashi> hey
[08:13] <Sashi> just did a fresh installation
[08:13] <Sashi> but i cant boot into gnome
[08:13] <Sashi> says no screens are found
[08:15] <rfmonk> is that it that was way to easy....
[08:15] <carbo> can anyone recommend a MUD/telnet client?
[08:16] <Sashi> i was thinking that it was the depth size
[08:16] <rfmonk> =]  thanks, kinda curious though, i put it in tmp before i dpkg -i it, that gona work after reboot
[08:16] <rfmonk> ?
[08:16] <YukiCuss> carbo, telnet! :)
[08:17] <carbo> YukiCuss: haha. I'm looking for something with more features... triggers/aliases/macros for MUDding
[08:17] <carbo> YukiCuss: don't think the default telnet client does that
[08:17] <rfmonk> is there a best practice for placing packages when not using aptitude or whatever?
[08:17] <YukiCuss> carbo, just type `apt-cache search MUD'; there are about 15 results, some useful.
[08:17] <FlannelKing> carbo: my favorite (albeit requiring wine) is Mushclient
[08:18] <carbo> FlannelKing: yep I love Mushclient too, but I was wondering if there was a linux client so I don't have to use wine
[08:18] <carbo> YukiCuss: alright, thanks
[08:18] <linuxboyfriend> is there any site for gnome as it is there for kde(kde-look.org)?
[08:18] <YukiCuss> linuxboyfriend, art.gnome.org
[08:18] <chavo> linuxboyfriend, gnome-look.org believe it or not
[08:18] <FlannelKing> carbo: no, not similar. They're all tintin based.  Or all that I know of.  So, more like zmud, with the "worlds" being a big initalization list and stuff.
[08:19] <linuxboyfriend> lemme check both of them
[08:19] <carbo> FlannelKing: ah, i see... well I'll try some out, but I have this feeling I'll be sticking to MUSHclient then :D
[08:20] <Sashi> a little question
[08:20] <ReWT_AxS> Back.
[08:20] <Sashi> under command
[08:20] <FlannelKing> carbo: Nick's done a lot to make it wine friendly, I haven't had problems or anything.
[08:20] <Sashi> how can i set a root password
[08:20] <rfmonk> ok one last anoying ? what is the Ubuntu Silc client used
[08:20] <ReWT_AxS> Sashi...
[08:20] <ReWT_AxS> Why would you want to?
[08:21] <kingspwned> !root
[08:21] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:21] <Frogzoo> !root
[08:21] <Sashi> well i need to set one
[08:21] <ReWT_AxS> lol why?
[08:21] <Sashi> cuz i gotta edit my xorg conf
[08:21] <ReWT_AxS> use sudo?
[08:21] <dli> ubuntu does "apt-get update" in cron, is it okay to disable it? I want the apt package list don't expire (for apt-cache search, for example), untill I manually "apt-get update"
[08:21] <carbo> FlannelKing: so you just run the mushclient installation using wine, or do you have to get the actual client exe
[08:22] <Frogzoo> Sashi: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:22] <linuxboyfriend> chavo, wow, gnome-look,org is just like kde-look.org :)
[08:22] <ReWT_AxS> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:22] <chavo> yes it is :)
[08:22] <Sashi> sudo doesnt need a root password?
[08:22] <ReWT_AxS> it needs your pw
[08:22] <Madpilot> Sashi, sudo uses your own user pw
[08:22] <Frogzoo> Sashi: sudo needs YOUR password
[08:22] <Madpilot> !tell Sashi about sudo
[08:22] <Sashi> ah ok :P
[08:22] <FlannelKing> carbo: There is a thread on the forums (MC forums, not ubuntu forums) regarding how to 'install' it.
[08:22] <ReWT_AxS> :)
[08:22] <rfmonk> hmm like, i searched the ubuntu dbase didnt find silc...
[08:22] <carbo> FlannelKing: alright, thanks again.
[08:22] <FlannelKing> carbo: no problem.
[08:23] <rfmonk> anyone recomend a silc client for ubuntu dapper?
[08:23] <rfmonk> hmm like, i searched the ubuntu dbase didnt find silc...
[08:24] <Madpilot> rfmonk, do you mean silc the chat thing?
[08:24] <rfmonk> yes
[08:24] <rfmonk> my buds keep goin silc, i aint got one Madpilot
[08:24] <Madpilot> rfmonk, looks like there's something called "silky"
[08:25] <Madpilot> !info silky
[08:25] <ubotu> silky: (SILC (Secure Internet Live Conferencing) GTK+ based client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.5.2-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 208 kB, Installed size: 1076 kB
[08:25] <rfmonk> cool thanks man
[08:25] <rfmonk> cool thanks man
[08:25] <Sashi> hmm
[08:25] <carbo> another question.. is there any way to transfer files from a Nokia phone to ubuntu using infrared?
[08:26] <Sashi> what would be a depth problem if xorg tells me that no screens found
[08:26] <C-O-L-T> how to make to play mp3 in amarok? I have w32codecs but still does not want to play
[08:27] <dli> Sashi, what's the exact error message? pastebin that part of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:27] <sfar-ubu> !mp3
[08:27] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:27] <Sashi> em im not on my nix atm
[08:28] <Sashi> im on my windows hdd but all from my mem is that it says no screens found :P
[08:28] <ReWT_AxS> sashi did you try to reconfigure xorg?
[08:28] <Sashi> well from other distros id had expereince
[08:28] <Sashi> it was a depth problem
[08:28] <Sashi> i had to set it to 16
[08:28] <dli> Sashi, no screen found could be a video card driver problem, or screen configuration problem
[08:28] <ChankLappy> has anyone tried installing counterstrike dedicated server on ubuntu
[08:28] <ChankLappy> ?
[08:30] <dli> Sashi, if you set it to 16 already, very likely, it's not a depth problem, maybe, you didn't set videoRam correctly in BIOS (like intel 8x5 chipsets), or you choose an invalid resolution modem
[08:30] <Sashi> well i have a ATI chipset
[08:30] <Don> A question: How is it possible to let other users (aka accounts) access my X display or X session. I want to run certain applications within Gnome as other user.
[08:31] <ReWT_AxS> sashi what ati ?
[08:31] <mebaran> vsftpd is acting up
[08:31] <mebaran> not sure why
[08:31] <Sashi> well from CPUZ
[08:31] <dli> Sashi, then, follow the ati howto, ati is anti-linux :( their driver may or may not work
[08:31] <mebaran> on localhost it works alright
[08:31] <Seveas> Don, man xhost
[08:31] <Don> thx
[08:31] <mebaran> but if I try a remote connection just calling my dyndns name
[08:31] <mebaran> it timesout
[08:32] <Seveas> ("xhost +" is the quick and dirty and quite unsafe way)
[08:32] <mebaran> I can't even get a directory listing.  Any ideas?
[08:32] <Sashi> !ati
[08:32] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:32] <dli> Sashi, however, it's always a good idea to use "ati" 2D driver from Xorg to do testing
[08:32] <mebaran> Seveas, does anyone understand xauth
[08:32] <mebaran> I've never quite figured it out
[08:32] <Seveas> mebaran, unlikely ;)
[08:33] <dli> mebaran, usually, you don't do anything about it, it should work
[08:33] <ChankLappy> is anyone actually listening?
[08:33] <Don> Seveas: perfect,thx, didnt know it was that easy
[08:33] <ReWT_AxS> ChankLappy, yes.
[08:33] <mebaran> dli, just wondering
[08:33] <FlannelKing> ChankLappy: that just means that no one has.
[08:33] <mebaran> it feels very cryptic
[08:34] <mebaran> anyway, my vsftpd is acting up
[08:34] <mebaran> and the logs don't give me any hints
[08:35] <Don> mebaran: Does it run in passive mode ?
[08:35] <mebaran> no
[08:35] <mebaran> passive mode times out as well
[08:35] <mebaran> I've tried both
[08:35] <Sashi> well atm
[08:35] <Sashi> my xorg conf file
[08:35] <Don> so, it does not do any connection ?
[08:35] <Sashi> is using ati driver
[08:36] <ReWT_AxS> Sashi what ati chipset?
[08:36] <Sashi> rs
[08:36] <Sashi> 480
[08:36] <dli> Sashi,  try, "X -configure" for testing
[08:36] <ReWT_AxS> sashi, has it ever worked?
[08:36] <Sashi> well i never used nix on this comp
[08:37] <ReWT_AxS> 64 bit?
[08:37] <Sashi> yea
[08:37] <ReWT_AxS> hmm in xorg.conf
[08:37] <ReWT_AxS> under device
[08:37] <Sashi> erm
[08:37] <mebaran> hmm
[08:37] <Sashi> well its 64bit
[08:37] <ReWT_AxS> try    option    "no accel"
[08:37] <Sashi> but i install i386
[08:37] <mebaran> the logs keep giving everything it tries to put out as a failed dll
[08:37] <mebaran> I think all my ports are forwarded
[08:37] <mebaran> what might cause vsftpd to fail to allow dll's
[08:38] <Don> did you try the connection from another host, not just yours ?
[08:38] <YukiCuss> ReWT_AxS, NoAccel is one word.
[08:38] <Sashi> where do i add that
[08:38] <carbo> i installed some things using Automatix, but Ubuntu's "Add Applications" shows those programs unchecked.. is it okay to install them with "Add Applications" again?
[08:38] <Sashi> nvm :P
[08:39] <dli> is it okay to remove apt from /etc/cron.daily ?
[08:39] <mebaran> what is really weird is friends outside my network can dial in
[08:39] <mebaran> to my ftp server
[08:40] <Don> mebaran: try to use a proxy to check
[08:40] <mebaran> but I can only use it if I open localhost, not my domain
[08:40] <mebaran> Don, how
[08:40] <mark105> when adding something to sources list im told deb http://debian.syscp.de/ <name of distribution>/ but what do i put in <name of distribution>?
[08:40] <dli> mebaran, it's a good idea to do acl in the program, and in iptables
[08:40] <ReWT_AxS> oops it is one word :-P
[08:40] <mebaran> dli, not sure what acl is, and iptables have always been a mystery
[08:41] <dli> mebaran, acl is "Access Control List"
[08:41] <mebaran> Don, where would I find a proxy server for ftp
[08:41] <dli> mebaran, try to use some frontend tools of iptables
[08:42] <mebaran> dli, iptables feels very complicated
[08:42] <mebaran> and how woudl I set up an acl
[08:42] <mebaran> for vsftpd that is
[08:42] <Don> mebaran: I am not sure where exactly, try on anonymous proxy lists
[08:42] <schmirgo> how can i get the ./configure options Xorg from ubuntu repository is compiled with?
[08:42] <Seveas> schmirgo, apt-get source the thing and look in debian/rules
[08:42] <dli> mebaran, iptables is the way to go, if you want it secure, read some iptables howto
[08:43] <YukiCuss> mebaran, iptables is actually quite simple.
[08:43] <Don> mebaran: how is your client secured: just on your server with iptables or do you have a router in between ?
[08:43] <schmirgo> Seveas, thanks
[08:43] <carbo> !firefox1.5
[08:43] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:43] <altos> how can i install stardict in ubuntu?
[08:43] <mebaran> router sits in between
[08:43] <mebaran> I have forwarded pors 20-21 though
[08:43] <Don> mebaran: I could check your server if it works for me too
[08:44] <mebaran> sure
[08:44] <mebaran> just my media
[08:44] <mebaran> nothing too interesting
[08:44] <mebaran> let me make a fake password
[08:45] <Adriano> 'morning
[08:45] <Don> ok
[08:45] <YukiCuss> Adriano, evneing.
[08:45] <YukiCuss> evening*
[08:45] <Adriano> that, too
[08:45] <Don> I am not interested on your server stuff, I just test if it connects
[08:45] <mebaran> ok
[08:45] <mebaran> Don, ftp://av:cows@mebtux.gotdns.com
[08:45] <tapox> What's the purpose of the 'bug report tool'? It isn't bug buddy, all it is is a launcher for Ubuntu's old bug tracker.
[08:45] <Adriano> I tried asking on dapper, but no-one seems to be able to help me there:
[08:45] <mebaran> thanks
[08:45] <Adriano> what steps do you take to configure a print server?
[08:46] <Adriano> I've tried what I can think of and the other computer still can't print
[08:46] <Don> connects.....
[08:46] <tapox> Shouldn't it be removed, or updated to point towards malone?
[08:46] <Don> ok, there is the problem
[08:46] <Don> it connects, but it wont give me the file list as it runs in passive
[08:46] <mebaran> Don, what?
[08:46] <Don> you have to define a passive range and route this one too
[08:46] <alumno> ji po comerme los webos
[08:47] <mebaran> Don, okkkkk
[08:47] <YukiCuss> alumno, english? language?
[08:47] <mebaran> any advantages to running in passive mode
[08:47] <mebaran> ?
[08:47] <mebaran> I've tried setting passive to true in the ftp client
[08:47] <Don> errr, not sure exactly, but I think, it is more secure
[08:47] <ReWT_AxS> where would i find my firefox folder? i installed 32 bit here on my 64 bit but my mozilla icons are gone?
[08:47] <alumno> ye, of course
[08:47] <Don> its not about the client, it is about the server
[08:47] <mebaran> and that doesn't affect much
[08:47] <mebaran> ok
[08:47] <Don> check the vsftp config
[08:47] <mebaran> I have a default install of vsftpd; do I have to whack the router?
[08:47] <Don> and define a passive range
[08:48] <Don> for instance 60000-60020
[08:48] <Don> and then open it on the router
[08:48] <Don> worked for me
[08:49] <Don> no clue if this is the perfect way, but it worked on my setup (with IPCop as router)
[08:49] <mebaran> but it works on and off
[08:49] <ReWT_AxS> where would i find my firefox folder? i installed 32 bit here on my 64 bit but my mozilla icons are gone? i need to put the icon folder back in
[08:50] <dj-fu> `man find`
[08:50] <dj-fu> find / -name firefox
[08:50] <Don> mebaran: what do u mean with it works on and off ?
[08:50] <dj-fu> icons are usually in /usr/share/pixmaps
[08:51] <mebaran> Don, like today it worked from a friends house and he just dll'ed some media
[08:51] <mebaran> but now it continually timesout
[08:52] <Don> mebaran: it does not timeout when you connect via localhost - ergo, there is a connection problem
[08:52] <Don> mebaran: why it worked for your friend - no clue
[08:52] <ReWT_AxS> dj-fu, i dont see my 64 bit firefox folder in the share folder
[08:52] <Don> mebaran: I just can say, I faced the same problems till I opened up a passive range
[08:52] <mebaran> Don, continaully timeouts?
[08:52] <dj-fu> ReWT_AxS, I thought you were looking for an icon
[08:52] <mebaran> I think it might be a router mangling thing
[08:53] <ReWT_AxS> i am
[08:53] <mebaran> my router is pretty nice for a cheap box; a wrt54gc
[08:53] <Don> well, it connects
[08:53] <mebaran> yeah
[08:53] <ReWT_AxS> the little one beside the name in firefox
[08:53] <mebaran> but it might mangle the high ports
[08:53] <Don> but, when it tries to retrieve the file list
[08:53] <Don> it times out
[08:53] <Don> it goes into passive mode
[08:53] <Don> was the exact problem with my install once
[08:53] <Don> as soon as I opened the pasv range
[08:53] <Don> it worked
[08:54] <ReWT_AxS> find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[08:54] <ReWT_AxS> /root/.mozilla/firefox
[08:54] <ReWT_AxS> errr
[08:54] <_wd3_> how do i identify 2nd choice nick, my first choice is taken?
[08:54] <ReWT_AxS> what the hell is that
[08:54] <ReWT_AxS> lol
[08:57] <Don> mebaran: take a look at this to explain the ftp modes: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch15_:_Linux_FTP_Server_Setup
[08:57] <Hoxzeri> How do I enable usage of resolution 1200x800
[08:58] <liable> _wd3_: if you have registered the first nick, then kill whoever is using it with nickserv
[08:58] <defrysk> !xres
[08:58] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[08:58] <dli> Hoxzeri, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:58] <_wd3_> how?
[08:58] <Madpilot> !fixres
[08:58] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:59] <Hoxzeri> Dli; thx
[08:59] <papyromancer> has anyone else had trouble ssh ing from os-x into ubuntu?
[08:59] <liable> _wd3_: /msg nickserv ghost nick password
[08:59] <defrysk> Madpilot, thats what i ment ;p
[08:59] <liable> _wd3_: then identify
[09:00] <carbo> ok, i just installed firefox 1.5 on breezy according to !firefox1.5, and while it works fine on its own, i can't open links from XChat
[09:02] <carbo> anyone has any ideas? I changed the preferred apps and did all that linking stuff too
[09:02] <carbo> !firefox1.5
[09:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:03] <kenubuntu> i dont know either how to installl IRC protocoll in firefox .... no option to tell new prototcol
[09:04] <carbo> not open irc:// links from Firefox, but open http:// links from Xchat
[09:04] <roxanne> My computer is really slow, and i'm new to this operating system.
[09:04] <h0nus> hello
[09:04] <roxanne> hi
[09:04] <glick> damn if only kubuntu wasnt so damn unstable :(
[09:04] <h0nus> hey i'm a linux noob too =)
[09:04] <h0nus> my first day
[09:04] <roxanne> sweet!
[09:04] <kenubuntu> does anyone use a GOOD xchat script ?
[09:04] <roxanne> does it run fast?
[09:05] <h0nus> meh
[09:05] <k31th> Morning LL
[09:05] <k31th> all
[09:05] <kenubuntu> does anyone use a GOOD xchat script ? for XDCC filetransfers ?
[09:05] <h0nus> so-so, but i have a half-decent computer i built myself
[09:05] <glick> roxanne, yeah it runs pretty fast, faster then windows for sure
[09:05] <roxanne> I just got rid of the bug on my computer
[09:05] <h0nus> can anyone with some experience help me?
[09:05] <roxanne> microsot
[09:06] <jbritz22> is there a sndrec type program for linux
[09:06] <h0nus> i don't wanna tie up the whole channel
[09:06] <roxanne> I find it's way slower.
[09:06] <Don> jbritz22: for instance audacity
[09:06] <jbritz22> ok
[09:06] <_wd3> liable, after i killed ghost how do i identify me?
[09:06] <jbritz22> anything more lightweight?
[09:06] <h0nus> i am having some difficulty with sound, i.e. there is none o_0
[09:07] <roxanne> I learned how to disable some services, and that helped a bit.
[09:07] <Don> gnome-sound-recorder
[09:07] <Madpilot> !sound
[09:07] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:07] <Madpilot> h0nus, try the two URLs above ^^^
[09:07] <glick> roxanne, how much ram does your machine have?
[09:07] <h0nus> ok ty will check back
[09:07] <roxanne> glick, do you know how to get it to run faster?
[09:08] <roxanne> 256 mb I think
[09:08] <h0nus> lol well i have a gig and it still isn't much faster than windows for me
[09:08] <glick> roxanne, one way would be to run a different desktop-enviornment, gnome with all the bells and whistles really needs 512Mb ram
[09:08] <glick> roxanne, try the xubuntu-desktop
[09:09] <roxanne> okay, how do I change that?
[09:09] <glick> roxanne, which is a lite-weight version of gnome really
[09:09] <h0nus> brb
[09:09] <roxanne> glick, where would I go to download that?
[09:09] <glick> roxanne, first you enable the universe repositories
[09:09] <gnomefreak> roxanne: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:09] <roxanne> Glick, thats way over my head
[09:10] <glick> roxanne, you edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:10] <roxanne> I dont know anything but the GUI
[09:10] <glick> hmm
[09:10] <roxanne> how do I do all that editing and changing?
[09:10] <jbritz22> when rtunning gnome-spound-recorder i get a could not open resource for writing error when I try to play
[09:10] <glick> im not sure how to add universe repos through synaptic
[09:10] <glick> i know you can do it though
[09:10] <glick> hold up
[09:10] <roxanne> I'm what they call a 12 o clock flasher.
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> arg i cannot get my icons working in this 32 bit firefox
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> >.<
[09:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell roxanne about universe
[09:11] <glick> by the way i found a bug in gaim
[09:11] <carbo> how do i put a link to my Trash on my desktop? I can only have it as a panel applet and I can't find the trash folder anywhere
[09:11] <glick> i hope the devels fix it
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> glick whats that
[09:11] <glick> i sent in a bug report
[09:12] <plbgnr> hello, is there opposite to modprobe?
[09:12] <The_Don> rmmod
[09:12] <arrinmurr> plbgnr: modprobe -r ?
[09:12] <ReWT_AxS> opposite?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> roxanne: the instructions are in you rpm there should be some for using synapitc
[09:12] <jbritz22> when rtunning gnome-spound-recorder i get a could not open resource for writing error when I try to play
[09:12] <glick> ReWT_AxS, apparently when the buddy list isnt available from the AOL serves immediately, gaim opens a bazillion error windows freezing the desktop
[09:12] <ReWT_AxS> hmm never had it here
[09:12] <glick> 1.5
[09:12] <glick> dont know if 2.0 does that
[09:12] <plbgnr> arrinmurr:thanks
[09:13] <glick> ReWT_AxS, me neither and ive been using giam for many years
[09:13] <carbo> never had that in 1.5 or 2.0 on both Ubuntu and Windows
[09:13] <ReWT_AxS> anyone here running 64 bit with 32 bit firefox?
[09:14] <YukiCuss> ReWT_AxS, I used to.
[09:14] <ReWT_AxS> Yuki, were your icons messed up?
[09:14] <YukiCuss> Which ones in particular?
[09:14] <ReWT_AxS> Like the little one next to the window title
[09:14] <ReWT_AxS> I have a white box there
[09:14] <ReWT_AxS> Ive tried figuring out how to fix it but i cannot?
[09:14] <YukiCuss> I can't really remember, I don't use GNOME's window manager, so I don't see the icons.
[09:15] <roxanne> i' loading the page
[09:15] <ReWT_AxS> Think you could help me figure it out?
[09:15] <YukiCuss> tristansleepin, don't rename.
[09:15] <YukiCuss> !away
[09:15] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. See http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
[09:15] <roxanne> I'm going to do a bit of reading and stuff then i'll be back
[09:15] <YukiCuss> ReWT_AxS, hmm..
[09:15] <jbritz22> can anyone help me?
[09:15] <YukiCuss> !helpme
[09:15] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:15] <YukiCuss> ReWT_AxS, that's stored as a part of the binary; I can't imagine why it would be that way.
[09:16] <jbritz22> when rtunning gnome-spound-recorder i get a could not open resource for writing error when I try to play
[09:16] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, sounds like it doesn't like the idea of your sound device.
[09:16] <The_Don> jbritz22: I just faced this when I tried to save, it seems like it is very buggy
[09:16] <jbritz22> any other lightweight sound recorders?
[09:16] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno
[09:17] <YukiCuss> ReWT_AxS, it's not particularly a large issue, though, is it?
[09:18] <carbo> how do i put my Trash on my desktop? I can only have it as a panel applet.. if I just put a link to ~/.Trash it won't show if the Trash is empty or full
[09:18] <ReWT_AxS> its extfemely annoying?
[09:18] <roxanne> when i'm adding multi verse how do I decide whether I use binary or source?
[09:19] <YukiCuss> ReWT_AxS, I don't know why it would happen, other than a bug in the firefox binary. How did you install it?
[09:19] <YukiCuss> roxanne, use binary.
[09:19] <YukiCuss> roxanne, you only need source if you're planning on recompiling packages from it.
[09:19] <jbritz22> any other lightweight sound recorders?
[09:19] <YukiCuss> Cat feeding, back later. jbritz22, ask questions less rapidly!
[09:19] <jbritz22> ok
[09:19] <jbritz22> lol
[09:19] <ReWT_AxS> Yuki, the tutorial on forums
[09:19] <arrinmurr> jbritz22: sound-recorder
[09:20] <ReWT_AxS> !flash
[09:20] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:20] <sfar-ubu> whats the command to list all my .mp3-files in /, in terminal?
[09:20] <YukiCuss> sfar-ubu, find /path/to/dir -iname *.mp3
[09:21] <variant> sfar-ubu: or ls -R /*.mp3
[09:21] <carbo> is there any way to put my Trash on my desktop? I can only have it as a panel applet.. if I just put a link to ~/.Trash it won't show if the Trash is empty or full
[09:22] <sfar-ubu> YukiCuss and variant: thanks
[09:22] <ReWT_AxS> flustern, sup man
[09:22] <roxanne> I used binary, clicked edit, and it doesn't say anything about universe or multiverse.
[09:22] <flustern> nm u?
[09:22] <kingspwned> sfar-ubu, append something like "> MyMP3" at the end of that, and you get all the output into a file called MyMP3. innit neat?
[09:22] <ReWT_AxS> Yuki, i see no where on the tut about fixing it?
[09:23] <sfar-ubu> kingspawn: to the find-command?
[09:23] <sfar-ubu> or to any command? :)
[09:23] <kingspwned> sfar-ubu, to any command. the > redirects the output of something into what you type after it
[09:23] <gnomefreak> roxanne: do you have synaptic open right now?
[09:23] <roxanne> yes
[09:23] <sfar-ubu> kingspawn: ah, thanks for the tip :)
[09:24] <kingspwned> :)
[09:24] <gnomefreak> roxanne: in a box in middle of screen do you see clicked boxes in there?
[09:24] <BedalvomKaktehen> Hi
[09:24] <roxanne> yeah.
[09:24] <BedalvomKaktehen> i've a problem, after an update my system doesn't boot
[09:24] <gnomefreak> roxanne: scroll all hte way down make sure all the boxes are clicked
[09:24] <roxanne> one sec,
[09:25] <roxanne> all of them should be?
[09:25] <gnomefreak> roxanne: yes they should be
[09:25] <BedalvomKaktehen> oh, i must say that i use dapper
[09:25] <BedalvomKaktehen> after a update dapper doesn't boot
[09:25] <roxanne> Gnomefreak, Thanks, Hold on.
[09:25] <gnomefreak> BedalvomKaktehen: dapper support please refer to #ubuntu+1
[09:26] <roxanne> gnomefreak, nom they are.
[09:26] <roxanne> *now
[09:26] <gnomefreak> roxanne: now click close and synaptic should update your list
[09:27] <glick> i hope that dapper will feature more stable kde enviornment
[09:27] <gnomefreak> glick: are you using kde 3.5?
[09:27] <glick> does anyone besdies me find kubuntu desktop really unstable
[09:27] <msimundic> hey hey guys got a problem with ndiswrapper. can anyone help me. p.s. I'm a harsh n00b
[09:27] <glick> gnomefreak, yeah i was
[09:27] <roxanne> gnomefreak, It is reloading the package list from servers for the effect to be felt.
[09:28] <gnomefreak> roxanne: ;) goodie
[09:28] <sfar-ubu> YukiCuss and kingspwned
[09:28] <sfar-ubu> find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc/8477: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[09:28] <roxanne> Warning!
[09:28] <roxanne> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:28] <sfar-ubu> i got that the second time i did "find" ... not the first
[09:28] <dli> is it okay for me to remove /etc/cron.daily/apt ? I'm on dialup
[09:28] <driggers> any one know of a page explaining how to install armagetron?  step by step like the one for firefox?
[09:28] <YukiCuss> sfar-ubu, just ignore that. You probably shouldn't want to search all of /
[09:28] <gnomefreak> roxanne: when its done click search and type in xubuntu-desktop   <<<if that was what you wanted
[09:28] <glick> is dapper shipping with kde 4
[09:28] <glick> and will that be more stable?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> no glick
[09:28] <YukiCuss> roxanne, not a problem.
[09:29] <glick> am i the only one that bitches about kde?
[09:29] <MistaED> glick: what's so terribly unstable about kde 3.5?
[09:29] <glick> i like kde, i just cant have my shit crashin on me all the time
[09:29] <Langly1> is the ubuntu live cd SMP capable?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> glick: no but i thought 3.5 was fairly stable
[09:29] <kingspwned> sfar-ubu, in linux, files and devices can be the same thing, etc, so sometimes there are incidents like that. its no problem
[09:29] <glick> MistaED, konqueror for one would always crash on me
[09:29] <MistaED> i've found it to be quite stable compared to like, kde 3.3 and lower
[09:30] <dli> Langly1, usually, you don't need smp livecd, you can enable smp after installation
[09:30] <Langly1> dli how, only thing i have ever done smp with is gentoo
[09:30] <glick> i like the idea of kde
[09:30] <dli> gnomefreak, k3b, kstars, kopete are all good
[09:30] <roxanne> My computer just got really slow, but I can still type.
[09:30] <gnomefreak> dli: and they all run under gnome ;)
[09:31] <dli> Langly1, oh, you can build your kernel with smp, or choose pre-built ubuntu kernel with "smp" in name
[09:31] <wd3> is it necsry to install firewall and antivirus on linux?
[09:31] <gnomefreak> !firewall
[09:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[09:31] <Langly1> dli so on install, or just the kernel you boot
[09:31] <Langly1> is there a guide I can read
[09:31] <dli> gnomefreak, then, you still use kde for something
[09:31] <dli> Langly1, smp is in kernel only
[09:32] <wd3> thank you but is it worth installing?
[09:32] <zF> you are never going to get laid
[09:32] <Langly1> yes, when installing the computer, or on picking the kernel on the boot
[09:32] <zF> what are you doing with yor lives
[09:32] <zF> go die
[09:32] <dli> Langly1, if you want to program for smp, you need a howto, but setting smp up is in BIOS and kernel only
[09:32] <zF> you are useless
[09:32] <Badm4n> how to check running cron tab on my box ?
[09:32] <zF> deriously go get a girl....any girl
[09:32] <Langly1> dli I KNOW
[09:33] <zF> becaue you suck
[09:33] <Langly1> I am asking when to choose that kernel
[09:33] <Langly1> Stop telling me what I have said I already know and answer the question
[09:33] <dli> Langly1, apt-cache search linux-image
[09:33] <gnomefreak> dli: ho i dont have kde installed at all i have edubuntu installed ;)
[09:33] <wd3> langly1, i was told that linux is safr than win so firewall and antivirus isn't needed.
[09:33] <sfar-ubu> is it possible to take a screenshot with menus and mouse cursor visible?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> zF: the is not the place for that
[09:33] <gnomefreak> s/ho/how
[09:33] <roxanne> I'm a girl, and anyone who calls themself a geek is good people.
[09:34] <dli> sfar-ubu, try, ksnapshot, it can take after a delay
[09:34] <sfar-ubu> aight, thank you dli
[09:34] <zF> no you're not - you're a guy, you're not fooling anyone.
[09:34] <gnomefreak> !ops
[09:34] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[09:34] <Langly1> dli ok that about answers it, just need to change out the kernel that grub picks on the starup after installing the correct kernel, or will installing that kernel automaticly configure grub
[09:34] <flie> anybode have this file /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic?
[09:34] <alexnicol> Morning
[09:34] <glick> zF, whats your problem dude?
[09:35] <dli> roxanne, "anyone who calls himself/herself is a good person", just some logic, no offending
[09:35] <alexnicol> anyone know anything about printer drivers?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell alexnicol about print
[09:35] <roxanne> seriously, if I were a guy, I wouldn't be asking for a walk through, I would be pushing buttons hoping it would work.
[09:35] <dli> Langly1, if not sure, run "update-grub"
[09:35] <roxanne> sorry about that guy/girl thing, I am dealing with a stereotype.
[09:35] <roxanne> sorry.
[09:35] <dli> alexnicol, be more specific, "anyone" doesn't help you at all
[09:36] <sfar-ubu> dli, i noticed it was for kde.. will it work in gnome also?
[09:36] <alexnicol> Ok - I have spent a couple of months scouring the net for drivers for my MP370.  From what I can gather it is another printer redesigned with a scanner on top
[09:36] <dli> sfar-ubu, what is for kde?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> alexnicol: you will know about printer drivers if you look in your pm ;)
[09:36] <sfar-ubu> dli: ksnapshot
[09:36] <ReWT_AxS> anyone here running 64 bit with 32 bit firefox?
[09:36] <glick> i must say i love kontact
[09:36] <sfar-ubu> dli: atleast the description says so
[09:37] <glick> kontact is one sweet app
[09:37] <dli> sfar-ubu, it's program, should work in all X
[09:37] <sfar-ubu> dli, ok :)
[09:37] <roxanne> okay, when I find xbuntu on the list I just mark them all?
[09:37] <glick> roxanne, just xubuntu-desktop
[09:38] <Badm4n> how to check running cron tab on my box ?
[09:38] <glick> Badm4n, crontab -l
[09:38] <Langly1> dli ok and sorry for getting a little mad, I knew SMP was only in the kernel and was just asking when to select the right kernel, during the install or if there was more than one to pick from on cd/install as you can select your kernel at times there
[09:38] <Langly1> and you just kept popping back with "smp is in kernel only"
[09:39] <roxanne> okay, then do I click apply?
[09:39] <ReWT_AxS> err whats the keystroke to show desktop?
[09:39] <glick> roxanne, yes
[09:39] <Langly1> I have some anger issues when it comes to instead of answering the question I asked repeating no brainer info I already know
[09:39] <Xenguy> Badm4n: or ps aux |grep cron  (should output '/usr/sbin/cron' if cron is running)
[09:39] <Badm4n> i c
[09:39] <gnomefreak> Langly1: during default install you dont choose but that can be changed fairly easy after install is done
[09:39] <gnomefreak> roxanne: you got it ;)
[09:39] <Langly1> ok, thats what i needed to know
[09:39] <MistaED> hey talking about scanners, could someone suggest one which is compact and has great support in linux? i know looking up sane is the way to go but from a friend i know, his scanner has "good" support but really, there isn't
[09:39] <roxanne> After it does it's thing, then what?
[09:40] <Langly1> I have the odd problem of failing simple installs but always getting the most complex stuff right
[09:40] <gnomefreak> roxanne: you can log out and on the log in screen click sessions than choose xfce and log in ;)
[09:40] <Langly1> like my stage3 gentoo installs fail at times, but stage1's always work perfectly
[09:40] <dli> Langly1, "apt-cache search linux-image" to search, find the one you need, and "apt-get install"
[09:41] <Langly1> thanks
[09:42] <dli> Langly1, or get kernel source, "apt-cache search linux-source", or get from kernel.org , and build your own
[09:42] <roxanne> okay, i'll be back, and if something happens I'd like to say thanks.
[09:42] <gnomefreak> roxanne: it should install a lot of apps for xfce if you find that you need one that it doesnt install open synaptic and search for xfce and just find the apps if any you will want
[09:43] <dli> roxanne, apt-get install xfce4
[09:43] <gnomefreak> dli: no she has xubuntu
[09:44] <roxanne> okay, thanks for the tips do i get xfce4?
[09:44] <MistaED> i always find xfce4 lacking too much and i end up adding all the services and nautilus from gnome to the point where there really isn't any point of running xfce4 =/
[09:44] <Badm4n> how to make idle screensaver at remote console ( from putty )
[09:45] <dli> Badm4n, xset -display :0 s off
[09:45] <Badm4n> root@safana:/home/mirza# xset -display :1 s off
[09:45] <Badm4n> bash: xset: command not found
[09:46] <dli> Badm4n, do you have apt-file? "apt-file update;apt-file search xset
[09:47] <gnomefreak> roxanne: xubuntu-desktop is xfce4 with other apps
[09:47] <gnomefreak> brb again
[09:47] <dli> gnomefreak, does xfce4-panel crashes in xubuntu, it keeps crashing here
[09:47] <Badm4n> dli : root@safana:/home/mirza# xset -display :1 s off <-- is this correct ? and where i should to put this command? i want to auto running xmatrix at my putty.exe when im idle in 10s
[09:48] <glick> ill brb gonna try out kubuntu
[09:49] <Kezzer> I broke my Ubuntu after having it for a week, gah =(
[09:49] <driggers> i'm installing xubuntu.  should i install gdm?  of kdm?  i mean are they a lot nicer than the basic?
[09:50] <h0nus> BRB
[09:50] <dli> driggers, I like gdm, auto login without passwd
[09:50] <Kezzer> I installed kubuntu-desktop last night, then I removed it and now I just get issues
[09:51] <Badm4n> dli : root@safana:/home/mirza# xset -display :1 s off <-- is this correct ? and where i should to put this command? i want to auto running xmatrix at my putty.exe when im idle in 10s
[09:51] <dli> driggers, please tell me whether your xfce4-panel crashes
[09:51] <Kezzer> if I log out it no longer asks me if I want to shut down or whatever, it just goes to a blank screen
[09:51] <Healot> doesn't really matter which dm you use :)
[09:51] <driggers> dli i don't think i could if i wanted to
[09:51] <Kezzer> I can't open the login screen setup in the admin option
[09:51] <dli> Badm4n, I don't understand your english, make it in short sentences, english is not my language
[09:51] <gnomefreak> Kezzer: sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[09:52] <Zalbor> I need to get the command "modprobe snd-seq" to be run automatically every time I boot, with root privileges. They told me to put it in the init script, how do I do that?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> Kezzer: is it in the admin optios?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> options*
[09:52] <Badm4n> dli : i want to run cmatrix ( screensaver ) when i'm idle in 10second .. ( FYI : i want it to run at my putty.exe
[09:52] <dli> Zalbor, /etc/modules
[09:52] <Kezzer> gnomefreak, yes
[09:53] <MistaED> kezzer: did you change from gdm to kdm when it asked?
[09:53] <Kezzer> I installed kubuntu-desktop, used kdm instead, then I removed it all
[09:53] <glick> hmm resolution is crappy
[09:53] <gnomefreak> Kezzer: try killall gnome-panel than see if it will open (are you on breezy?)
[09:53] <Kezzer> MistaED, I told it to, but nothing happened
[09:53] <Zalbor> dli, So I just add it to the list? Thanks
[09:53] <Badm4n> dli : in other word ... how to make screen saver ( run cmatrix ) when i'm idle on my remote console
[09:53] <MistaED> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm possibly?
[09:53] <MistaED> to make it the default
[09:53] <Kezzer> gnomefreak, I've been using linux for a week so this is confusing me ;)
[09:53] <Kezzer> how can I tell which desktop manager is running?
[09:54] <dli> Zalbor, yes
[09:54] <Kezzer> 'cause I'm not sure if gdm or kdm is running at the moment
[09:54] <Zalbor> Thanks
[09:54] <gnomefreak> Kezzer: where is your menu?
[09:54] <dli> Badm4n, run any screensaver with some options
[09:54] <driggers> hm.  if  already have a gui running do i automatically have xubuntu?
[09:54] <driggers> dli?
[09:54] <Kezzer> At the top
[09:54] <gnomefreak> Kezzer: you are using gnome
[09:54] <Kezzer> Ok =)
[09:54] <dli> driggers, you could or couldnt
[09:54] <Badm4n> dli try to apt-cache search cmatrix
[09:54] <Kezzer> but I did apt-get remove qtlib3-mt last night
[09:54] <Kezzer> and all of the kubuntu stuff is still there
[09:55] <Kezzer> and it won't let me get into the panel to change the login screen at all
[09:55] <gnomefreak> Kezzer: libqt3-mt
[09:56] <Kezzer> ok done that gnomefreak, it asks if I want to stop the kdm daemon, but if I do that it'll kill off the desktop and will go back to command line without letting me enter any commands
[09:56] <dli> Badm4n, however, running screensaver across net is a bad idea, huge traffic load for your net
[09:57] <visik7> is there any inconvenience in using a vanilla kernel over the ubuntu kernel? I mean: is there some patches vital for ubuntu not privided by vanilla kernel ?
[09:57] <Badm4n> this only for local server ... gateway server only
[09:57] <dli> visik7, I use vanilla kernel, 2.6.16 now
[09:57] <visik7> no problem for evms ?
[09:57] <Badm4n> dli : this only for local server ... gateway server only
[09:58] <gnomefreak> Kezzer: yes you want to stop it (rebooting should fix that
[09:58] <dli> Badm4n, pointless to add the traffic load, running a windows screensaver sounds better
[09:58] <glick> damn my fonts and resolution in kubuntu is aweful
[09:58] <Kezzer> Ok, give me a second
[09:58] <glick> maybe its cause gnome is interfereing with it somehow
[09:59] <Badm4n> dli : i want to create like "autolog - Terminates connections for idle users "but i want to run screensaver not kick
[10:00] <glick> haha konqueror just crashed again on me
[10:00] <glick> i love it!
[10:00] <dli> glick, which version of konqueror?
[10:01] <Badm4n> dli : i want to create like "autolog - Terminates connections for idle users "but i want to run screensaver not kick
[10:01] <dli> glick, my xfce4-panel crashes in about every 10 minutes
[10:01] <driggers> dli xfce does not crash
[10:01] <driggers> and it's cute
[10:01] <glick> dli, 3.4.3
[10:01] <Badm4n> xfce it simple
[10:01] <Badm4n> where is ubuntu artwork channel ?
[10:01] <dli> Badm4n, you can make sshd keep connections (idle time?)
[10:02] <dli> driggers, it keeps crashing for me
[10:02] <driggers> oh :(
[10:02] <Badm4n> dli : what is the command/config ?
[10:02] <glick> is 3.4.3 not the version i want to be  using?
[10:02] <Kezzer> Heh, that didn't work whatsoever
[10:02] <dli> glick, too bad :( I don't want to try 3.5.1
[10:02] <Kezzer> I think it'd be easier if I reinstalled Linux
[10:02] <dli> Badm4n, in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, mand sshd_config
[10:02] <driggers> Kezzer did u say u have a mac mini?
[10:02] <Kezzer> Nope
[10:02] <driggers> k
[10:02] <Badm4n> i know
[10:02] <ubushine> dli, probably bad fonts
[10:03] <Kezzer> Gah, how did I break Ubuntu so easily?
[10:03] <Badm4n> but how to run my "sh" when ever the user idle ?
[10:03] <dli> ubushine, it shouldn't crash still :(
[10:03] <ubushine> dli, with bad fonts it will
[10:03] <Badm4n> rite now my sshd = keep alive
[10:03] <Badm4n> but i want to run cmatrix ( some program ) when i have idle user
[10:03] <dli> ubushine, could be, by openning some windows created filenames
[10:03] <Badm4n> like a screensaver
[10:03] <Gareth> hm, what would be a mid-range processor for a desktop?
[10:04] <Badm4n> nvm ... thx dli ..
[10:04] <Badm4n> anyone know what is ubuntu art channel ?
[10:05] <Healot> entry-level? hum I would suggest  a P4 for today
[10:05] <Gareth> yeah, was thinking a P4
[10:05] <Healot> AMD Athlon or something in the same class
[10:05] <Gareth> not worth going with dual core yet?
[10:05] <roxanne> Hooray! I'm running xfce4!
[10:06] <Healot> dual core?
[10:06] <Gareth> yeah, the Pentium D line
[10:06] <MistaED> kezzer: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[10:06] <Healot> unless you have that intel compiler, then go with duel-core
[10:06] <ubushine> roxanne, me too. good choice
[10:07] <roxanne> the settings are way harder than gnome.
[10:07] <Healot> i guess there is no need for a duel-core CPU, at least for me...
[10:07] <Kezzer> kezzer@kezzer:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:07] <Kezzer> Password:
[10:07] <Kezzer> grep: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: No such file or directory
[10:07] <Kezzer>  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[10:07] <Kezzer> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[10:07] <Kezzer> doh, it still retains formatting, sorry
[10:07] <Badm4n> anyone know what is ubuntu art channel ?
[10:07] <roxanne> ubusunshine, do you know any more basic types?
[10:07] <dli> roxanne, I think you have play the trick, "Exit", "Save Sessions for Future Use"
[10:08] <MistaED> kezzer: rubbish, you can fix this :) sudo apt-get install gdm
[10:08] <roxanne> It asked me if I want this as my default session.
[10:08] <gnomefreak> Badm4n: did you try #ubuntu-artwork?
[10:08] <roxanne> I said yes.
[10:08] <ompaul> Badm4n, try #ubuntu-art
[10:08] <Badm4n> ok
[10:09] <ubushine> roxanne, basic types of what?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> yeah what ompaul said
[10:09] <ompaul> actually wait a moment
[10:09] <glick> heh looks like #kubuntu is dead
[10:09] <gnomefreak> it just turned 4am here
[10:09] <roxanne> ubusunshine, basic GUIs
[10:09] <Kezzer> MistaED, I did that, it said gdm is already the latest version then it configured kdm =X
[10:10] <gnomefreak> the one i said has a few people in it
[10:10] <MistaED> kezzer: ok there's a way to fix up installed packages using apt but i cannot remember the exact way of doing this
[10:10] <ubushine> roxanne, i'm ubushine not ubusunshine. basick window managers/desktop managers. there are lots. one of my favourits is enlightenment. grab yourself a copy of elive and be amazed!
[10:10] <gnomefreak> its #ubuntu-artwork unless theres another one
[10:11] <xsquared> hi, is there a Lighttpd package for breezy that i could download somewhere?
[10:11] <ompaul> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat  <-- list of all channels no art channel so go with that one
[10:11] <Frogzoo> !info gnome-art
[10:11] <ubotu> gnome-art: (install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[10:11] <ompaul> have a look on the wiki for the art team
[10:11] <ubushine> roxanne, i also like fluxbox alot. it's simple and creates tabs for any window. browser tabs, terminal tabs, anything that's open can have tabs
[10:11] <Frogzoo> !themes
[10:11] <gnomefreak> its #ubuntu-artwork it has 10-20 people in there
[10:11] <Kezzer> MistaED, surely it'd be easier for me to reinstall Ubuntu?
[10:11] <MistaED> kezzer: you could try this, sudo echo /usr/sbin/gdm >> /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:11] <roxanne> sweet, i'll try it out.
[10:11] <Kezzer> hehe, ok
[10:12] <Badm4n> i'm looking someone that can help me about console screensaver
[10:12] <MistaED> kezzer: then run that sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:12] <dli> ubushine, how to get a reasonable menu in fluxbox?
[10:12] <Hexidigital> hey guys... if i want to connect to this channel from a remote interface, what is the IRC command to do so
[10:12] <Hexidigital> ?>
[10:12] <Kezzer> I'm getting a permission denied on that one MistaED
[10:12] <MistaED> kezzer: did you sudo
[10:12] <MistaED> *?
[10:12] <Hexidigital> "/channel something?"
[10:12] <ubushine> dli, menu? just right-click on the desktop. lots of menus there.
[10:13] <Kezzer> yes MistaED
[10:13] <ubushine> try damn small inux if you want to see fluxbox done right
[10:13] <xsquared> Hexidigital, dude, its /join
[10:13] <gnomefreak> !fluxbox
[10:13] <ubotu> from memory, fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[10:13] <Kezzer> ubotu from memory, fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at htt
[10:13] <ubotu> Kezzer: what are you talking about?
[10:13] <xsquared> Hexidigital, please read about irc before you continue to use it
[10:13] <Hexidigital> xsquared, thanks man... i'm new to IRC
[10:13] <roxanne> gnomefreak, you recommended xfce4 right?
[10:13] <Kezzer> doh
[10:13] <Kezzer> wtf
[10:13] <gnomefreak> ^^^ there is a menu part in there
[10:13] <xsquared> :)
[10:13] <dli> ubushine, including openoffice?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> roxanne: always ;)
[10:13] <Hexidigital> xsquared, and i'm trying to join everything to gaim
[10:13] <MistaED> kezzer: alright, just run sudo gedit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:13] <Gareth> lmao, gnomefreak recommends xfce?
[10:13] <Gareth> interesting namesake
[10:13] <MistaED> and then type in /usr/sbin/gdm inside
[10:13] <Kezzer> kezzer@kezzer:~$ sudo echo /usr/sbin/gdm >> /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:13] <Kezzer> bash: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: Permission denied
[10:14] <ubushine> OO in damn small linux? nope. it's only 50MB to download the entire thing
[10:14] <roxanne> gnomefreak, do you kno any other low memory types that are more user friendly?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> roxanne: thats the lowest "user friendly" desktop what is it you need to know?
[10:14] <Kezzer> It's already set to /usr/sbin/gdm in that file
[10:15] <Gareth> I forget, does Puppy Linux come with OO or the like?
[10:15] <wd3> how do i install ftb.0.3.2.tar.gz i just dl gdesklets?
[10:15] <Gareth> heh good call xfcefreak
[10:15] <roxanne> Maybe i'm just being a girl, but it's not as pretty and easy as gnome
[10:15] <Hexidigital> xsquared, thanks, man... this is all i needed to know
[10:15] <Hexidigital> :)
[10:16] <sfar-ubu> roxanne: try IceWM then.. its even more ugly :)
[10:16] <Frogzoo> roxanne: can't have your cake & eat it dude
[10:16] <xsquared> Hexidigital, thats alright
[10:16] <ubushine> roxanne, if you want pretty use OSX it's purdy
[10:16] <dli> roxanne, there are ugly wms there, don't worry
[10:16] <xfcefreak> this better?
[10:16] <sfar-ubu> then you might find xfce4 pretty nice
[10:16] <roxanne> I cant figure out how to make an icon on the desktop.
[10:16] <Gareth> absolutely
[10:16] <MistaED> roxanne: i have some ideas on how to make gnome a little lighter, try installing a lighter gtk2 engine (in synaptic, look up gtk2-engines in the search)
[10:16] <xsquared> is there a lighttpd package for breezy?
[10:16] <Hexidigital> xsquared, i may be new to IRC, but i'm learning a LOT of cool things at once :)  overwealming
[10:16] <xsquared> Hexidigital, how old are you?
[10:17] <roxanne> Where is synaptic? everything has moved!!
[10:17] <xfcefreak> roxanne: right click add launcher than add what you want costom (what you would use to launch it from cli)
[10:17] <Hexidigital> 24
[10:17] <Mabus06> roxanne: The theme in GNOME is more to use the top panel for 'shortcuts', and to just save documents you're using or working on or whatever to Desktop
[10:17] <xsquared> wow
[10:17] <xfcefreak> roxanne: it should be in the tools menu (or gnome menu) i cant remember
[10:17] <Mabus06> Although you can put shortcuts on the desktop if you want.
[10:17] <Hexidigital> wow cause i should already know this stuff?
[10:18] <wd3> hey guys i just dl gdesklet - ftb how do i install the tar.gz.?
[10:18] <xsquared> Hexidigital, no, lol, you have ALOT to learn
[10:18] <xsquared> :-)
[10:18] <MistaED> kezzer: i suppose it's just easier to reinstall ubuntu, if you couldn't be bothered trying more stuff out
[10:18] <xfcefreak> wd3: why did nt you run sudo apt-get install gdesklets?
[10:18] <ubushine> roxanne, hit F2 you can type anything you want to launch from there
[10:18] <xfcefreak> s/did nt/didnt
[10:18] <ReWT_AxS> wds
[10:19] <ubushine> sorry that was alt F2
[10:19] <h0nus> back!
[10:19] <ReWT_AxS> just type 'sudo apt-get gdesklets'
[10:19] <roxanne> I found it.
[10:19] <h0nus> still no sound =(
[10:19] <ReWT_AxS> it will do it all for you?
[10:19] <Hexidigital> xsquared, i know! i just installed Ubuntu Breezy, and i'm trying to get rid of Win... i found this chat by "accident" and was amazed at all the commands, etc... i knew IRC existed, but i didnt know what it 'did'
[10:19] <wd3> i was told if i dl i will get the new version, i installed conky ap get and have an old version.
[10:19] <ReWT_AxS> err
[10:20] <dli> h0nus, what audio card?
[10:20] <xfcefreak> wd3: a tar is very time consuming to install there are alot of steps before you even think of installing it :(
[10:20] <Hexidigital> xsquared, using Gaim to connect to this channel just makes it a whole lot easier
[10:20] <h0nus> soundblaster audigy 2
[10:20] <xsquared> Hexidigital, im glad you've stepped up to this
[10:20] <mbuh> @find toto
[10:20] <C-O-L-T> albacker: hello
[10:20] <Hexidigital> :) thanks!
[10:20] <h0nus> so many things are related to that card
[10:20] <h0nus> but nothing is working
[10:21] <xfcefreak> wd3: one tar took me 10 mins to install other tars have taken me 6-8 hrs to install
[10:21] <wd3> xfcefreak thanks, i will apt get, however that will install the ftb right? well what about the weather plug in also, i dl that but will apt get install the weather plugin?
[10:21] <nige> anyone know how to install ati drivers in kubuntu?
[10:21] <xsquared> nige, they do
[10:21] <ReWT_AxS> !ati
[10:21] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:21] <Hexidigital> xsquared, maybe we can chat some more sometime... but right now it's 4.30am here... and i'm exhausted... had to give a speech in a history class today, and my nerves are shot
[10:21] <dli> h0nus, modprobe snd-ca0106
[10:22] <xfcefreak> wd3: weather will be there not sure about ftb. weather plug-in somes with them
[10:22] <roxanne> ubushine, So i'm going to change it, OSX?
[10:22] <xfcefreak> comes*
[10:22] <ubushine> roxanne, i was playing. OSX is apple, as in Mac. as in aqua. OSX
[10:22] <wd3> xfcefreak,  i just swithch from ubuntu gnome to ubuntu xfce,  i love it :)
[10:22] <dli> h0nus, modprobe snd-emu10k1
[10:23] <h0nus> i got fatal errors with last
[10:23] <dli> h0nus, modprobe snd-emu10k1x
[10:23] <Kezzer> MistaED, I know nothing of linux, but I've tried what everyone has said with no luck whatsoever
[10:23] <h0nus> module snd_ca0106 not found
[10:23] <roxanne> I'm stupid.
[10:23] <xfcefreak> roxanne: no your not
[10:23] <roxanne> OSX tiger I get it now.
[10:23] <xfcefreak> roxanne: you dont know how to use it yet thats not stupid thats novice ;)
[10:24] <h0nus> nothing happened that time dli
[10:24] <ubushine> roxanne, if you like pretty you'll love tiger
[10:24] <MistaED> kezzer: it just sounds like the initial bootup scripts are not working correctly to boot up gdm, gnome's login manager thing
[10:24] <wd3> xfcefreak, cool. well if i apt get gdesklet, will it install just the ftb? if so how do i get the extra plug like weather, and so forth?
[10:24] <xsquared> does anyone know if there is a lighttpd package for ubuntu
[10:24] <xsquared> bah!
[10:24] <roxanne> My humor was developmentally delayed as a child, and it's carried all the way into my young adult life.
[10:24] <xfcefreak> wd3: gdesklets has a bunch of things with it you shouldnt have to install anything else
[10:25] <Kezzer> Hmm, well I've run out of ideas, mind you, I did ages ago
[10:25] <dli> h0nus, what's in alsamixer now?
[10:25] <roxanne> ubushine, are you being cruel?
[10:25] <h0nus> checking...
[10:25] <h0nus> lots (including EIC modules)
[10:25] <ubushine> roxanne, not at all. OSX is the nicest user interface i've seen. but it's not open source.
[10:25] <MistaED> kezzer: how do you enter gnome at the moment anyway? do you login via the console then run startx or something?
[10:26] <wd3> xfcefreak, oh i went to the site and saw ftb, the weather plug, calc, etc; is all that rolled up in one in gdesklet?
[10:26] <roxanne> hmm...
[10:26] <Kezzer> Nope, it just starts automatically
[10:26] <dli> MistaED, install gdm or kdm
[10:26] <gnomefreak> wd3: yes
[10:26] <Kezzer> but I removed all the kubuntu-desktop stuff and it didn't actually get rid of anything
[10:26] <h0nus> interesting...
[10:26] <gnomefreak> when you type sudo apt-get insall gdesklets it will come with all of them
[10:27] <h0nus> i know that IEC can cause the problems i'm having
[10:27] <roxanne> ubushine, I'm not in the market for a new computer, is there any interface that was light and wowed you with simplicity?
[10:27] <h0nus> but one of the IEC settings is on
[10:27] <h0nus> and I don't have the option to turn it off
[10:27] <wd3> gnomefreak, well thanks, i'm apting then. i'm just a little afraid because every time i  apt i get an old version like conky, then i apt update and apt ugrade and i still have the old version :(
[10:27] <MistaED> so kezzer, what does ubuntu actually do when it logs into gnome?
[10:27] <h0nus> "m" does nothing
[10:27] <Kezzer> when it boots up it goes into the kubuntu login screen
[10:28] <Kezzer> then I just login as usual and it starts up as usual
[10:28] <ubushine> roxanne, simplicity not really, but enlightenment blew me away madly. seriously. get elive. it's like ubuntu, based on debian. but so gorgeous.
[10:28] <gnomefreak> wd3: that would depend on what repos you have and what ubuntu version you have
[10:28] <h0nus> it's IEC958 btw
[10:28] <roxanne> ubushine, Elive?
[10:28] <wd3> gnomefreak i have my universe,and multiverse checked
[10:29] <gnomefreak> wd3: are you using warty,hoary,breezy,dapper?
[10:29] <ubushine> roxanne, yes elive. it's a live cd so you don't need to install it. it'll run right from the cd. check here for screenshots and if you decide to try it. it's pretty awesome. http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/
[10:29] <wd3> gomefreak, breezy 10.5
[10:29] <MistaED> ubushine: enlightenment is so much worse though than xfce4 in terms of consistency with menus and things, sure it's damn fast but it's very unstable too
[10:29] <gnomefreak> 5.10 but close enough ;)
[10:30] <wd3> :0
[10:30] <roxanne> I don't have a burner.
[10:30] <h0nus> what's the gnome restart command from terminal?
[10:30] <ubushine> MistaED, yes, of course. i said it wasn't easy, but it sure is beautiful. eye candy
[10:30] <gnomefreak> that should be fine wd3 there are some packages that you wont get newest version of
[10:30] <dli> MistaED, xfce4 is not stable either
[10:30] <roxanne> ubushine, is there a not so live version?
[10:31] <MistaED> dli: very true
[10:31] <ubushine> MistaED, try elive, you'll be suprised how stable. especially enlightenment 16
[10:31] <wd3> gnomefreak, then that's when i have to dl new version huh?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> dli: im running xfce4.3 and its stable xfce4 should be stable (xfce4.3 is in testing)
[10:31] <gnomefreak> wd3: no you can upgrade to dapper in may-juneish
[10:32] <ubushine> roxanne, you can install from the live cd if you wish. but i wouldn't suggest it. it's still early beta, or alpha. not yet ready. but fun as hell to play with and look at.
[10:32] <roxanne> ubushine, I dont have a burner.
[10:32] <wd3> gnomefreak, apt get upgrade?
[10:32] <dli> gnomefreak, okay, now, you do, "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa stop", if you are running xfce 4.3
[10:32] <nige> brb
[10:32] <MistaED> kezzer: alright sudo apt-get remove kdm
[10:32] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[10:32] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[10:33] <gnomefreak> dli: why would i need to?
[10:33] <wd3> gnomefreak, to get dapper, apt get? or burn iso?
[10:33] <MistaED> kezzer: and a message asking to use gdm should pop up, if it doesn't then don't restart right away after removing kdm
[10:33] <h0nus> lol i just deleted my panel?
[10:33] <ubushine> roxanne, for 3 buck get it here: https://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/livecd/elive/lcd.html
[10:33] <dli> gnomefreak, to test whether 4.3 is stable for a small known bug
[10:33] <gnomefreak> wd3: you can do it one of many ways but i suggest you wait until its released
[10:33] <roxanne> i'll check it out.
[10:33] <dli> h0nus, in xfce?
[10:34] <ReWT_AxS> wd3
[10:34] <gnomefreak> dli: it has alot of bugs in it it has not yet been released
[10:34] <ReWT_AxS> what are you installing?
[10:34] <h0nus> ?
[10:34] <wd3> rewt_axs yes
[10:34] <alan|home> hi all
[10:34] <dli> gnomefreak, no, this bug has been there since 4.2
[10:34] <alan|home> can anyone help me ?  I am not able to configure my wifi connection...
[10:34] <gnomefreak> dli: did you file a bug report?
[10:34] <h0nus> dli, sorry i'm not familiar with xfce
[10:34] <dli> gnomefreak, xfce4-panel crashes, xffm go 99% cpu
[10:35] <ReWT_AxS> wd3, what are you installling?
[10:35] <Kezzer> MistaED, it says kdm isn't installed, heh
[10:35] <Kezzer> maybe it's not at all?
[10:35] <dli> gnomefreak, somebody else did, but I just checked, the bug is still there in 4.3.2
[10:35] <h0nus> i just added to my top panel and then tried to take what i added away
[10:35] <MistaED> kezzer: if you get greeted with a kubuntu login screen then kdm is there
[10:35] <alan|home> i use ndiswrapper, wlan0 is up, it has the correct static IP, the correct encryption key is given, and yet it doesn't work...
[10:35] <dli> gnomefreak, maybe, ubuntu patches it?
[10:35] <h0nus> but i right-clicked "delete panel" and the whole thing went away lol
[10:35] <alan|home> i'm on flight 5
[10:35] <wd3> rewt_axs oh i just installed conky last week and finally got it right, so now i'm installing gdesklet. eyecandy
[10:35] <h0nus> how do i get it back?
[10:35] <MistaED> kezzer: so it is a bit of a pickle you've got there to say the least, lol
[10:35] <Kezzer> Right, I think I've done it
[10:36] <gnomefreak> dli: could have been but launchpad should have been updated than
[10:36] <Kezzer> Can I just restart x to get into gdm if I've got rid of kdm?
[10:36] <ReWT_AxS> you getting the new gdesklets?
[10:36] <fgdf> i have problems with my screen resolution
[10:36] <fgdf> i cant change it
[10:36] <MistaED> kezzer: you can try a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (then start)
[10:36] <alan|home> fgdf: tell me. Too big for your screen, things are displayed out of the screen ?
[10:36] <gnomefreak> alan|home: for dapper talk please join #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <alan|home> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:36] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:37] <alan|home> gnomefreak: didn't know this chan
[10:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fgdf about fixres
[10:37] <fgdf> i have a 15.4" widescreen
[10:37] <h0nus> ok can someone help me restore my panel? lol
[10:37] <h0nus> <<<n00b
[10:37] <h0nus> =)
[10:37] <wd3> rewt_axs well i dl it just now, and went to the archive to look for readme file, but not there, but gnomefreak suggstd i apt get it. I was concerned if i apt get will it install the new version, because i apt get conky and got old version.
[10:37] <dli> gnomefreak, can you test it for me? to stop alsa to see whether xfce4-panel crashes
[10:38] <Badm4n> Mem:    191968k total,   188288k used,     3680k free,    49508k buffers <-- how to make more free memory ?
[10:38] <MistaED> h0nus: if you have a terminal up, gnome-panel &
[10:38] <dli> h0nus, run command: gnome-control-center
[10:38] <gnomefreak> im not in xfce atm
[10:38] <h0nus> thanks!
[10:38] <ReWT_AxS> just install from terminal?
[10:38] <fgdf> but i have dapper
[10:38] <Chousuke> Badm4n: You don't need more free memory
[10:38] <fgdf>  doest matter?
[10:38] <ReWT_AxS> i didnt use apt-get
[10:38] <Badm4n> Chousuke: is ubuntu will do that 4 me ?
[10:38] <Chousuke> Badm4n: if some app requires more memory, the OS will free some from the cache.
[10:39] <wd3> rewt_axs ok what did u use?
[10:39] <Chousuke> Badm4n: Linux always uses all the RAM it can
[10:39] <MistaED> badm4n: it's called superior memory management :)
[10:39] <fgdf> gnomefreak : but i have dapper
[10:39] <Badm4n> is this good or bad ?
[10:39] <Badm4n> Tasks:  74 total,   1 running,  73 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[10:39] <Badm4n> Cpu(s):  0.7% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 96.7% id,  2.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.3% si
[10:39] <Badm4n> Mem:    191968k total,   172920k used,    19048k free,    51124k buffers
[10:39] <Badm4n> Swap:   979924k total,    12480k used,   967444k free,    52108k cached
[10:39] <YukiCuss> !pastebin
[10:39] <Chousuke> Badm4n: if apps don't need it, Linux caches stuff so you can access it faster.
[10:39] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[10:39] <ReWT_AxS> my terminal and the tar
[10:39] <gnomefreak> fgdf: it shouldnt change all that much and for dapper please join #ubuntu+1
[10:40] <wd3> rewt_axs tell me more :)
[10:40] <fgdf> ty
[10:40] <gnomefreak> Badm4n: please use pastebin for all your pasting needs
[10:40] <Badm4n> sorry
[10:40] <Kezzer> doh, ffs
[10:40] <Badm4n> btw is that good ?
[10:40] <Chousuke> Badm4n: I think you have too much free memory there. :D
[10:40] <Kezzer> I was reading a forum and I followed loads of commands and now I've made it even worse
[10:40] <Chousuke> maybe Linux just hasn't found use for it yet :/
[10:40] <Kezzer> I just did sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a && apt-get install gnome-desktop
[10:40] <Kezzer> and it did loads of stuff =(
[10:40] <Badm4n> Chousuke : :) ty
[10:41] <gnomefreak> pssssssst Kezzer please know what the command does before running it
[10:41] <ReWT_AxS> ermm 'tar -xjf gDesklets-0.35.3.tar.bz2'
[10:41] <JadussD> !w32codecs
[10:41] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:41] <Kezzer> I don't know what it did
[10:41] <Badm4n> Chousuke : can help me about console screensaver
[10:41] <Kezzer> Is there any way to undo what you've just done? =D
[10:41] <dli> Kezzer, while what you wanted is "dpkg --configure -a"
[10:41] <Chousuke> Badm4n: I don't know anything about console screensavers. Never needed one.
[10:42] <gnomefreak> Kezzer:ive never seen the command you ran
[10:42] <Kezzer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96048
[10:42] <Kezzer> It's in there
[10:42] <Chousuke>  It reconfigures all your packages.
[10:42] <wd3> rewt_axs what does _xjf?
[10:42] <Chousuke> it shouldn't break anythin
[10:42] <Kezzer> Chousuke, he's not talking about that command
[10:42] <ReWT_AxS> just do it lol
[10:43] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: i know what dli's command does
[10:43] <dli> Chousuke, it could, unless ubuntu made some improvement over debian
[10:43] <Chousuke> gnomefreak: I wasn't talking about it either.
[10:43] <dli> gnomefreak, it's a trap for n00bs, "dpkg-reconfigure -a" should be disabled or moved to another spelling
[10:44] <wd3> rewt_axs thanks how come when i apt get wine to run trillian it claimed it was installed but there was no icon in menu, so i uninstalled. when i apt get progs from repos and i suppose to terminal then load it?
[10:44] <dli> Chousuke, long ago, I did that in debian, I took me hours to get configs back
[10:44] <h0nus> when i ran sudo gnome-panel i get the response...
[10:44] <Chousuke> you don't want to run gnome-panel with sudo
[10:44] <dli> h0nus, don't run gnome-panel as root, run it as user
[10:44] <h0nus> o
[10:45] <h0nus> mkay
[10:45] <h0nus> <<<n00b =)
[10:45] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno, make your own launcher?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Kezzer: install debfoster
[10:45] <syst3mlord> hi
[10:45] <Kezzer> No, this is getting worse and worse
[10:45] <Kezzer> I'm getting loads of recommendations and nothing is getting any better
[10:45] <wd3> rewt_axs meaning find the exec file in file manager, then add it to the panel?
[10:46] <h0nus> in user it says panel is already running... so how do i access it again? it doesn't appear on desktop
[10:46] <Kezzer> I'll just reinstall
[10:46] <dli> h0nus, why control-center doesn't help?
[10:46] <h0nus> haven't tried that yet... i'm new hehe
[10:46] <ReWT_AxS> yes
[10:47] <dli> Kezzer, you can find configs back :)
[10:47] <dli> Kezzer, no need to reinstall for "dpkg-reconfigure -a"
[10:47] <wd3> rewt_axs, what extension will all exec files have?
[10:47] <dli> Kezzer, howver, for a fresh system, reinstallation is easier and faster
[10:47] <Kezzer> Nah, it's just messed up
[10:47] <Kezzer> Yes, but the only problem with that is that I have no clue how to configure all the ATi stuff
[10:47] <Kezzer> I had a friend help me at the time
[10:47] <h0nus> dli, where do i go in control-center to reinstate the panel?
[10:47] <carbo> !thunderbird
[10:47] <ubotu> hmm... thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[10:48] <dli> h0nus, I don't reall use gnome, but I can test it for you
[10:48] <h0nus> lol ty
[10:48] <h0nus> can you tell i'm used to windows?
[10:48] <h0nus> =)
[10:49] <neo911> hi where can i download win32codecs again? thx
[10:50] <liable> !w32codecs
[10:50] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:51] <wd3> rewt_axs, for eg. b4 if switched to xfce i used evolution, it was good, but i used thunderbird in windows and wanted to keep saving in thunderbird extension so i can view linux .eml in windows
[10:51] <aula1__> buen dia
[10:51] <aula1_> hola eugenio
[10:52] <carl> Hey, I just installed Linux, now my sat broadband connection has slowed down.....is this because of Mozilla?
[10:52] <aula1__> yuju
[10:52] <wd3> rewt_axs however thunderbird wouldn't upgrade so i dl new version tar and got frustrated, so i unstalled it. now i'm using 1.0 sucks
[10:52] <aula1_> eugenio tenemos que aprender las NNTT de chat
[10:52] <dli> h0nus, the easiest is to delete your ~/.gnome2
[10:52] <aula1__> fabi cmo era eso del ciber sexo?
[10:52] <dli> h0nus, and logout/login
[10:53] <neo911> i just installed pan a newsreader and it's asking for a signature file... how do i create a sig file? thx
[10:53] <aula1_> vamos a aprovecharnos de que el profe no controla, vale'
[10:53] <aula1__> hola antonio
[10:53] <h0nus> what's the command to delete ~/.gnome2?
[10:53] <neo911> thx liable
[10:53] <xsquared> h0nus, rm
[10:53] <gnomefreak> Kezzer: !es
[10:53] <neo911> for the codecs
[10:53] <h0nus> ty
[10:53] <wd3> hey guys how do u upgrade thunderbird to 1.5?
[10:53] <Chousuke> h0nus: rm -r ~/.gnome2
[10:53] <neo911> !signature file
[10:53] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo911
[10:53] <gnomefreak> oops
[10:53] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:54] <ubushine> Chousuke, rm -rf ./gnome2 it's a directory
[10:54] <aula1_> ser hispanoescribientes, np?
[10:54] <Chousuke> ubushine: -f shouldn't be needed
[10:54] <Chousuke> ubushine: -r will do.
[10:54] <gnomefreak> aula1_: please /join #ubuntu-es for spanish
[10:55] <dli> gnomefreak, can somebody write a tool to auto translate for the channel?
[10:55] <ubushine> Chousuke, stand corrected. habit from another time, i guess.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> dli: to mix languages in here?
[10:55] <neo911> !pan signature file
[10:55] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo911
[10:55] <Chousuke> ubushine: yeah. :P
[10:55] <neo911> !pan
[10:55] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo911
[10:55] <dli> gnomefreak, no, everybody sees all message in the language of his own
[10:56] <Chousuke> dli: that would be weird.
[10:56] <Chousuke> dli: and would require clientside scripts.
[10:56] <Chousuke> dli: and everything would be mistranslated anyway
[10:56] <gnomefreak> dli: im sure it could be done but that is why we have different channels it would be too hard to write it and implement it
[10:56] <dli> Chousuke, since the topic is quite limited, the software can learn, and be quite accurate eventually
[10:56] <Chousuke> dli: Not really.
[10:57] <Chousuke> dli: machine translation is _difficult_
[10:57] <dli> Chousuke, like, "how do I mount my usb memory stick"? can be auto translated
[10:57] <dli> Chousuke, but if the topic is so limited here
[10:57] <Chousuke> I suppose.
[10:57] <Chousuke> But not everyone speaks correctly here
[10:58] <dli> Chousuke, then, people have to adjust the way they speak too
[10:58] <manicka> !automatix
[10:58] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[10:58] <Chousuke> Maybe it'd work if the world was perfect. :P
[10:59] <Chousuke> but I think it's too unreliable.
[10:59] <gnomefreak> dli: i can pretty much say it will never happen
[10:59] <neo911> Chousuke, do you know how to create a signature file for use in installing pan? thx
[10:59] <Chousuke> neo911: No I don't
[10:59] <Chousuke> neo911: maybe someone else does, though.
[10:59] <gnomefreak> too many varibles that can get messed up between code and final translation
[11:00] <dli> gnomefreak, 20 years ago, people still think 32 bit with 4GB memory space would be enough for everything
[11:00] <gnomefreak> dli: it is for some people
[11:00] <Chousuke> dli: This is different. :P
[11:00] <h0nus> well i still don't see my top panel =(
[11:00] <Chousuke> dli: Maybe in 20 years we'll have the required technology.
[11:00] <Chousuke> but that's in 20 years.
[11:00] <dli> gnomefreak, don't even have to mention the 640KB design
[11:01] <dli> h0nus, logout/login?
[11:01] <h0nus> restarted computer
[11:01] <gnomefreak> dli: it would take a year just to write it in lets say 10 languages and than maybe anohter year to get it implemented but there are so many lanaguages out there so you can image how hard it would be (also would have to be tested before implemented)
[11:02] <dli> h0nus, do this, "logout gnome", Ctl Alt F1 to console, login, and remove your ~/.gnome2, and login to gnome again
[11:03] <dli> gnomefreak, new smart people are born everyday :)
[11:03] <Janno> !rpm
[11:03] <ubotu> rpm is, like, totally, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[11:03] <Janno> !alien
[11:03] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[11:04] <YukiCuss> Janno, please don't use these publicly.
[11:04] <YukiCuss> Just message ubotu with the keyword.
[11:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Janno about msg the bot
[11:04] <Janno> aap ok
[11:04] <dli> Janno, if it's rpm only, not even source, bad luck
[11:05] <gnomefreak> Janno: using alien is just going to open holes in your system (never good to stray outside of the "good" parameters
[11:06] <Janno> krr  yes its rpm only but i need it its ati drivers
[11:06] <gnomefreak> Janno: what app did you want? never know we might have a deb for it
[11:06] <gnomefreak> Janno: no you dont
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Janno about ati
[11:06] <gnomefreak> Janno: in your pm has instructions for ati installation
[11:07] <gnomefreak> brb gsmoke
[11:08] <tahorg> hi,
[11:09] <kenas> hi
[11:09] <kenas> how can i execute something with wine ?
[11:09] <dli> kenas, wine foo.exe
[11:09] <kenas> if it is on another computer in my lan
[11:09] <manicka> !ubuntu forums
[11:09] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, manicka
[11:09] <Hobbsee> !forums
[11:10] <dli> kenas, enable X-Forwarding for sshd, and run "ssh -X -Y" to it
[11:10] <Janno> blah it's show i dont need drivers but glxinfo | grep renderer and glxinfo | grep direct shows it uses mesa what is very slow and using my cpu
[11:10] <kenas> how can i enable X-Forwarding
[11:11] <manicka> !ubuntuforums
[11:11] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, manicka
[11:11] <gnomefreak> Janno: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the right drivers
[11:12] <gnomefreak> manicka: instead of playing with the bot how bout asking your question
[11:12] <dli> kenas, on the sshd side, "sudo vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config"
[11:13] <dli> kenas, enable "X11Forwarding yes", and restart sshd
[11:13] <manicka> gnomefreak: I'm not playing I want to know if if the bot contains an entry for the forums
[11:13] <manicka> clearly it's of no importance
[11:13] <gnomefreak> manicka: no it was removed
[11:13] <manicka> why?
[11:13] <kenas> even when i try to execute with wine it gives me "Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[11:13] <kenas> "
[11:14] <gnomefreak> manicka: why would we need one ubuntuforums.org is the site
[11:14] <Seveas> !listkeys forum
[11:14] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'forum' by key (3 shown): forums ;; forum ;; themesforums.
[11:14] <gnomefreak> manicka: we are here to answer any question that arises if noone can answer it we can send you to other places to find the answer
[11:14] <Seveas> manicka, --^
[11:15] <Janno> how much is 4mb in kb's please :)
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Seveas: themesforums?
[11:15] <Seveas> Janno, 4x1024
[11:15] <Seveas> !themesforums
[11:15] <ubotu> methinks themesforums is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694
[11:15] <dli> kenas, run wine without parameter to configure wine, choose your drive and windows (fake partition)
[11:15] <Seveas> !forget themesforums
[11:15] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot themesforums
[11:15] <Seveas> useless factoid...
[11:15] <h0nus> k i'm missing something cause i can't get that panel back =\
[11:15] <manicka> take it easy guys... geez
[11:15] <h0nus> i can <Alt>F1 and <Alt>F2 stuff
[11:15] <Seveas> !forget xp
[11:15] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot xp
[11:16] <dli> h0nus, you followed my instructions?
[11:16] <Seveas> YukiCuss, adding crap to the bot will get you banned - member or not
[11:16] <cA1mAn> Hello, is it possible to have *24 bit* sound-ouput with my soundcard or in any music player? (i have an envy24-basedcard and really want to use 24 bit!)
[11:16] <h0nus> well yeah until i logged out, then i couldn't figure out hwo to log back in hehe
[11:16] <kenas> so i just type wine on my terminal and it gives me this ! no directory accesible
[11:16] <kenas> i have to create the directories ?
[11:16] <h0nus> i'm not familiar with terminal yet
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ubotu doesnt have the wiki for dualhead does he?
[11:16] <kenas> or make a windows partition ?
[11:16] <Seveas> !listvals dual
[11:16] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'dual' by value (3 shown): ntfsresize ;; ritalin ;; dualboot.
[11:16] <Seveas> !ritalin
[11:17] <dli> h0nus, you removed ~/.gnome2?
[11:17] <YukiCuss> Seveas, many apologies, I was just trying to test out the syntax. I made it forget the other ones I entered just recently, missed that one.
[11:17] <dli> kenas, choose a fake windows partition
[11:17] <Seveas> YukiCuss, wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:17] <h0nus> tried it twice, both from user, both times it went straight to prompt with no output
[11:17] <YukiCuss> Seveas, *nods*
[11:17] <Healot> !fglrx
[11:17] <ubotu> from memory, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:17] <kenas> where do i get a windows partition from ?
[11:18] <Manny> hi
[11:18] <kenas> no matter if it is fake or not.. how do i create one !
[11:18] <h0nus> hello
[11:18] <dli> h0nus, do you have another machine there? ssh to it, "/etc/init.d/gdm stop", "rm -rf ~/.gnome2", "/etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[11:18] <h0nus> no other machine sry =(
[11:18] <gnomefreak> i thought there was a wiki :(
[11:18] <dli> kenas, fake partition is only a folder
[11:19] <kenas> so i rn winecfg
[11:19] <dli> kenas, you can not use a real ntfs partition because you can not write to ntfs
[11:19] <kenas> ok
[11:19] <bimberi> gnomefreak: there's this (not sure if it's what you want though)...
[11:20] <cA1mAn> how to have 24bit sound-output?
[11:20] <bimberi> !tell gnomefreak about xinerama
[11:20] <dli> h0nus, Ctl Alt F1, login there, do the same thing
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ok so that is the command than ty
[11:21] <h0nus> ok i'll try that
[11:21] <dli> h0nus, alt f7 back to X
[11:21] <Zero_Day> hello gnomefreak
[11:21] <h0nus> k
[11:21] <gnomefreak> hi Zero_Day
[11:22] <bimberi> gnomefreak: np :) , not sure if xinerama is a command though
[11:22] <gnomefreak> bimberi: i meant for the bot
[11:22] <kenas> so u can run a *.exe from another computer in your lan but you cannot modify it
[11:23] <bimberi> gnomefreak: oh, sorry :/
[11:23] <Blippe> gnomefreak, you set up xinerama in your xorg.conf.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> bimberi: alot of people ask about dual moniters and i could never remember if the bot knows it or not
[11:23] <Blippe> then, tell him!
[11:23] <gnomefreak> Blippe: i can barely keep up with one what would i do with 2 lol
[11:24] <Zero_Day> 2 monitors = 2 busy of a mind, i agree
[11:24] <bimberi> gnomefreak: yes, i've noticed (the asking that is)
[11:24] <h0nus> dli, when i type in the restart command i get a fail
[11:25] <Hexidigital> the command is reboot
[11:25] <dli> h0nus, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:25] <h0nus> yes
[11:25] <Hexidigital> oh, sorry... thought you mean total system reboot
[11:25] <Hexidigital> g'night ubuntu'ers
[11:25] <h0nus> dli, correct that's what i entered after "rm -rf ~/.gnome2"
[11:26] <Zero_Day> alt+ctrl+ backspace?
[11:26] <dli> h0nus, it works now?
[11:26] <Zero_Day> byre Hexi
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Zero_Day: same thing only ones a clean way the other is a fast and dirty way
[11:26] <h0nus> dli, no i still have no panel at top of gnome desktop
[11:27] <dli> h0nus, /join #dli
[11:27] <Zero_Day> i agree my command is lik holding in the pwer button, a last resort, sorry for posting it actually
[11:27] <kenas> how do i create a windows fake partition for wine ??
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Zero_Day: we all do :(
[11:28] <anstei> kenas, winecfg -> drives
[11:29] <rjmac> hello all! can anyone help me?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[11:29] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:29] <rjmac> :P
[11:29] <kenas> if i add one it says this "err:shell:SHGetFolderPathW Failed to create directory 'L"c:\\windows\\profiles\\kenas\\Escritorio"'.
[11:29] <kenas> "
[11:30] <rjmac> I bought a new mouse. When booting Ubuntu, on the loading screen, it says "Loading Hardware Drivers" then my mouse just turns off...
[11:30] <rjmac> any ideas?
[11:30] <rjmac> the optical light turns off, and i get no pointer response
[11:30] <gnomefreak> rjmac: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure mouse setting are correct
[11:31] <rjmac> done that
[11:31] <rjmac> still turns off
[11:31] <Faulteh> when i update grub's menu.lst (needed to specify additional kernel options).. do i need to run grub to update the MBR? (like with lilo after editing lilo.conf)?
[11:31] <variant> hi all, will the ubuntu installer automatically resize windows partitions and set up a dual boot if required?
[11:31] <betim> Hi, I have hp nc6120 and monitor works like CRT on 50hz
[11:31] <g0dchild> what do i use to download gnome-themes automagically from art.gnome.org?
[11:31] <betim> what's the matter?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> rjmac: unplug it and plug it back in (should turn ona nd stay on)
[11:32] <rjmac> nope
[11:32] <bingogu> how can i make my firefox to support javascript
[11:32] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: install gnome-art
[11:32] <Zero_Day> u can manually do it with a windows install
[11:32] <variant> bingogu: it allready supports javascript
[11:32] <rjmac> if im booted into linux, i unplug it and plug it in again, it just turns itself off again
[11:32] <bimberi> variant: yes it will - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[11:32] <gnomefreak> rjmac: a usb mouse?
[11:32] <rjmac> PS/2
[11:32] <variant> bingogu: you probably mean java.. which is not the same as javascript
[11:32] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[11:32] <rjmac> yeah, im utterly baffled too
[11:32] <Ashton> why is h0nus removing ~/.gnome2 ? doing so wont restore the top panel
[11:33] <gnomefreak> rjmac: im not real sure what is going on i know i had that issue with an old mouse i had so i bought new one nad has worked perfect since
[11:33] <variant> bimberi: great thanks, is there a graphical installer or is it just curses based?
[11:33] <betim> anyone?
[11:33] <rjmac> well, thats what i did...lol my old mouse had a scroll wheel problem so i bought a new KB and mouse
[11:33] <rjmac> KB works fine, mouse gets turned off all the time
[11:34] <bogdan> help for a newbie: how i install my nvidia driver from root ?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[11:34] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:34] <defrysk> !nvidia
[11:34] <rjmac> weird thing is, if i boot into a DamnSmallLinux embedded, the mouse is loaded fine
[11:34] <bimberi> variant: curses it's curses :)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> bogdan: please follow those directions
[11:34] <bogdan> ok thanks
[11:34] <Zero_Day> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[11:34] <kenas> if i add a drive in winecfg it says this "err:shell:SHGetFolderPathW Failed to create directory 'L"c:\\windows\\profiles\\kenas\\Escritorio"'.
[11:34] <foxpaul> does anyone know if dapper will support macbook pro's?
[11:35] <rjmac> foxpaul: someone's already done it
[11:35] <foxpaul> i really want to put linux on mine, but only with decent hardware support :/
[11:35] <gnomefreak> rjmac: it sounds like its unsupported but it should be supported (unless maybe a m$ mouse)
[11:35] <variant> bimberi: huh?
[11:35] <rjmac> its a Gigabyte mouse and KB package
[11:35] <variant> bimberi: oh nm hehe :P
[11:35] <Janno> How i can enable multiverse?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> foxpaul: dapper questions please join #ubuntu+1
[11:35] <gnomefreak> !multiverse
[11:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:35] <bimberi> variant: a pathetic attempt at humour :P
[11:36] <rjmac> gnomefreak, maybe i should be in #ubuntu+1! im on dapper.... soz!
[11:36] <wab> Is there a way around the 4 patition limitation I'm having on a single disk?
[11:36] <variant> bimberi: indeed :)
[11:36] <Zero_Day> sudo gedit /est/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <gnomefreak> rjmac: yes
[11:36] <kenas> i tried this also "err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes   unable to define devicename of 'C:', targetpath of '/home/kenas/Desktop/C"
[11:36] <Zero_Day> shoot
[11:36] <Zero_Day> ect/
[11:36] <Zero_Day> good golly i cant type
[11:37] <Zero_Day> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu < Janno
[11:37] <wab> kenas, what was your problem?
[11:37] <Healot> rjmac, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" maybe? try selecting "auto" for the mouse
[11:37] <hackeron_> whats the best google desktop search alike available on ubuntu?
[11:37] <mustard5> wab, use extended partitions?
[11:38] <wab> I see, I used up all my primaries
[11:38] <Zero_Day> http://googe.com/linux lol
[11:38] <mustard5> wab, If I recall correctly the limit is 4 'primary' partitions?  something like that
[11:38] <Zero_Day> jokin
[11:38] <kenas> i need to create a windows fake partition for wine
[11:38] <Zero_Day> if i could type i may help
[11:38] <Healot> something like google desktop search? i have no idea what google desktop search does :)
[11:39] <gnomefreak> Healot: it searches you fs
[11:39] <gnomefreak> your*
[11:39] <mustard5> kenas, does winecfg do that?
[11:40] <Zero_Day> ahh im not the only one with typos ty gnomefreak
[11:40] <Healot> eh... much like locate... i see
[11:40] <kenas> it suppose to do that
[11:40] <wab> mustard5, thx... now I just have to install AGAIN!!
[11:40] <gnomefreak> yw im really bad at typing
[11:40] <kenas> or at least choose the drives
[11:40] <mustard5> wab, :)
[11:40] <kenas> whener i choose a drive with wine it gives me error that says it is not accesible
[11:41] <mustard5> wab, when I first started using ubuntu I think I probably reinstalled about six times :)
[11:41] <cA1mAn> how to have 24bit sound-output?
[11:41] <bimberi> hackeron_: i've heard beagle and the deskbar-applet are a pretty good combination :)
[11:41] <mustard5> wab, you going to create a separate /home partition?
[11:42] <wab> mustard5, I'm trying to set up some laptop drives to have multiple linux distros on them, that's how I ran out of partitions
[11:42] <kenas> it says this "err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes   unable to define devicename of 'C:', targetpath of '/home/kenas/Desktop/C'
[11:42] <kenas> "
[11:42] <mustard5> wab, ah ok
[11:42] <wab> boot root root home swap
[11:42] <dli> kenas, better to select another folder for fake partition, not Desktop
[11:43] <wab> mustard5, home would be sharded across the 2 distros
[11:43] <Ashton> dli, did you get the h0nus panel problem fixed?
[11:43] <mustard5> cA1mAn, I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[11:44] <mustard5> wab, I wonder how effective that would be :)
[11:44] <mustard5> wab, wouldnt they have different configs?
[11:44] <h0nus_> Ashton, can you help me reinstate that top panel?
[11:44] <Healot> wine, i rather drink it than run it :)
[11:44] <cA1mAn> mustard5, i mean for example 24 bit output with amarok (look in preferences, you can set max. 16 bit)
[11:44] <Ashton> h0nus, yeah. probably. give me a few minutes
[11:44] <h0nus_> ty
[11:44] <graveson> what is the difference between libmp3lame.so and libmp3lame.so.0
[11:45] <Zero_Day> mustard he could make it a shared file, but you are right
[11:45] <wab> mustard5, it should work as long as UIDs and GIDs are the same in both distros
[11:45] <Ashton> btw. removing .gnome2 wouldn't have worked ;)
[11:45] <variant> h0nus_: right click the panel "add new panel" iirc
[11:45] <killerbud> can anbody please tell me how to register my irc nickname
[11:45] <mustard5> cA1mAn, ah ok..I didn't know that
[11:45] <mustard5> !register
[11:45] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:45] <wab> graveson, .0
[11:45] <killerbud> thanks
[11:45] <kenas> still the same and i checked out the restrictions of write into this folder "err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes   unable to define devicename of 'C:', targetpath of '..//home/kenas'
[11:45] <kenas> "
[11:45] <h0nus_> variant, thank you... couldn't get that to work before
[11:45] <h0nus_> problem solved
[11:46] <Zero_Day> type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[11:46] <variant> great
[11:46] <h0nus_> the n00b can now access his panel again rofl
[11:46] <variant> hehe
[11:46] <Mabus06> Can I type something into the terminal to open up gedit, but not tie up my terminal? As in, I could use it for other commands or close it without closing the gedit process spawned by it.
[11:46] <mustard5> graveson, you setting up Audacity for lame mp3 encoding?
[11:46] <Healot> graveson, the other might be a soft link and the actual file
[11:46] <YukiCuss> Mabus06, gedit &
[11:46] <graveson> wab , yes sorry
[11:46] <Healot> for versioning purposes
[11:46] <Mabus06> YukiCuss: ty
[11:46] <YukiCuss> Mabus06, if you don't want it to die, consider gedit & disown, too.
[11:46] <graveson> mustard : mp3 exporting is not working
[11:47] <YukiCuss> Sometimes a process opened with & will die ..
[11:47] <dli> Ashton, it should be easy, but difficult to help him
[11:47] <wab> graveson, I had to do it.. I couldn't resist
[11:47] <graveson> wab: no problem :)
[11:47] <Ashton> dli, panels are in gconf
[11:48] <dli> Ashton, great, I did "rm -rf ~/.gnome2" myself
[11:48] <h0nus_> ashton, the problem has been solved
[11:48] <Ashton> h0nus, i gathered :)
[11:48] <h0nus_> o_0
[11:48] <h0nus_> dli, ty for helping me
[11:49] <dli> Ashton, gconf ? what's the exact command?
[11:49] <Healot> deleting gnome settings :)
[11:49] <Healot> the hard way, or the easy way, which one i don't mind
[11:49] <sfar-ubu> does anybody know how to take a screenshot with the mouse cursor visible?
[11:50] <Healot> "gconf-editor" - gconf
[11:50] <xanax`> sfar-ubu : with byzanz ?
[11:50] <dli> Healot, thanks
[11:50] <Healot> sfar-ubu, on Gnome, or KDE?
[11:50] <sfar-ubu> Healot: gnome
[11:50] <sfar-ubu> xanax`: i dont know :)
[11:50] <sfar-ubu> ill check it out
[11:51] <Healot> "Print Screen" button might work, I think the screen capture applet has option to capture mouse cursor too?
[11:51] <sfar-ubu> Healot: no :(
[11:52] <Healot> can you do "Print Screen"? sfar-ubu ?
[11:52] <Healot> oh, screen capture applet doesnot have that option :-
[11:53] <Tomcat_> The applet uses gnome-screenshot and there's no option either.
[11:53] <Ashton> dli, great thing for me about a channel with so many people, like #ubuntu,  is that is I am very distracted, someone else always jumps in :D
[11:54] <dockane> hi all ... i ve got seriuos problems with a hard disk. (/home was recoverd successfully, no more recovery situtation) http://pastebin.com/619681 <-- dmesg when fs was mounted read only
[11:55] <dli> Ashton, what's the command to restore gnome-panel?
[11:55] <variant> anyone used the webilder gnome webshots application? its superb.. only version 0.2 though
[11:55] <veldorzvizzerd> hello everyone, wondering if anyone can help me out, I need to be able to run googletalk on ubuntu - do I need to get some program to let me be able to do so?
[11:56] <h0nus_> dli, "killall gnome-panel"
[11:56] <Healot> ask google for googletalk client on linux? veldorzvizzerd, Google for it, as they say
[11:56] <dli> dockane, bad sign, if the data is valuable, turn it down, don't do anything
[11:57] <h0nus_> is anyone familiar with amsn?
[11:57] <variant> veldorzvizzerd: there is not voice capabliity but you can use the google talk text chats
[11:57] <veldorzvizzerd> heh, true Healot, the thing is I can actually get to it through GAIM, but it GAIM doesn't support voice chat, which is what I need
[11:57] <veldorzvizzerd> is there any other IM service that supports voice chat on both linux/ubuntu and windows?
[11:57] <variant> veldorzvizzerd: there is no support for the libjingle protocall that they released yet
[11:58] <Healot> yeah... no voice support yet
[11:58] <variant> veldorzvizzerd: yes, anything with SIP support
[11:58] <variant> veldorzvizzerd: there are a few programs for that
[11:58] <Healot> tried amsn and gaim-vv, veldorzvizzerd ?
[11:58] <veldorzvizzerd> not yet, will do Healot, thanks
[11:58] <dli> Healot, what about kopete?
[11:58] <veldorzvizzerd> and thanks to you too variant
[11:58] <Healot> i'm on GNOME :(
[11:59] <variant> veldorzvizzerd: check ekiga which will connect to any sip complient program
[11:59] <dockane> dli: as is mentioned, everything valuable was recoverd (by testdisk). a reboot ends ub with "Grub loading, please wait.. Error 2" <- this happened 2 days before with my breezy installation,too. now i gave dapper a try and the same
[11:59] <veldorzvizzerd> ekiga - will look it up, cheers
[11:59] <variant> veldorzvizzerd: and openwengo
[11:59] <dli> variant, I couldn't get NAT with ekiga
[11:59] <Healot> kopete can do voice?
[11:59] <veldorzvizzerd> yep
[11:59] <variant> veldorzvizzerd: openwengo runs on win/ubuntu/mac too
[11:59] <dli> dockane, it's a hardware issue, buy a new disk
[12:00] <veldorzvizzerd> ah, i c, googling it now
[12:00] <h0nus_> anyone familiar with amsn or teamspeak?
[12:00] <Healot> not a chat person myself... you guys seem to know more chat clients :)
[12:01] <h0nus_> well from what i gather amsn is a linux patch for msn
[12:01] <h0nus_> and teamspeak is a program I use on windows
[12:01] <dli> Healot, skype is good, but it's blocked in China
[12:01] <shame_> Hi. Can anyone help newbie with some stupid problems?
[12:01] <h0nus_> teamspeak is similar to skype
[12:01] <Healot> china isn't my country "_"
[12:01] <dli> shame_, just ask
[12:01] <h0nus_> not the same though
[12:01] <bimberi> shame_: ask away, we'll try
[12:01] <msid> is there any decent gui piece of software that can do video capture and editing?
[12:02] <dli> h0nus_, I will check it, it's free?
[12:02] <h0nus_> yes
[12:02] <smee56> why is ubuntu better than windows
[12:02] <kingspwned> smee56, its free
[12:02] <Healot> anyway I subscribed to some VoIP service, yet no one to actually call :)
[12:02] <dli> h0nus_, the same thing, binary only
[12:02] <h0nus_> smee56, that's what i'm here to find out
[12:02] <shame_> dli I've compiled and installed mplayer but cannot see any films. Codecs are OK
[12:02] <dli> smee56, consider, no virus, no spyware
[12:02] <Healot> smee56, it is not... but it's free :)
[12:02] <veldorzvizzerd> variant, openwengo has two linux packages,  a DEB package and a RPM package, which one would work better on Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger>
[12:02] <veldorzvizzerd> ?*
[12:02] <Healot> as in freedom and cash term :_)
[12:03] <dli> shame_, be more specific
[12:03] <kingspwned> Healot, you dont think its better?
[12:03] <anstei> veldorzvizzerd, DEB is the native format for ubuntu
[12:03] <smee56> can you install of an ubuntu live cd?
[12:03] <Healot> both, veldorzvizzerd, but rpm requires "alien"
[12:03] <killerbud> i finnaly got my nick registered lol
[12:03] <veldorzvizzerd> alien, what is alien?
[12:03] <YukiCuss> !alien
[12:03] <ubotu> methinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[12:03] <veldorzvizzerd> like, whats it used for?
[12:03] <Healot> kingspawn, better in what way? better for my pocket, and fast setup, IMHO
[12:03] <YukiCuss> veldorzvizzerd, ^^
[12:03] <dli> Healot, I will wait to test ekiga and kopete and gaim (with -vv)
[12:04] <graveson> besides top how can i view system performance,in top my memory is always 100% used ?
[12:04] <dli> graveson, for memory? "free -m"
[12:04] <YukiCuss> graveson, probably indicates that your memory is always used 100%.
[12:04] <kingspwned> Healot, i guess i measure every such question in a "is the linux operating system better than windows"-way. might be wrong at times.. :)
[12:04] <veldorzvizzerd> thanks everyone, cyaz later
[12:04] <Healot> yeah
[12:04] <shame_> dli, I've downloaded sources of MPC, I'm using Ubuntu 5.04. When I start 'mplayer movie.avi' I see it using null videout device.
[12:04] <YukiCuss> veldorzvizzerd, see you.
[12:05] <dli> shame_,  mplayer -vo help
[12:05] <Healot> too subjective, everyone has their own answers, kingrayray
[12:05] <Healot> too subjective, everyone has their own answers, kingspawn
[12:05] <Healot> kingspwned, damn, tab completion
[12:05] <h0nus_> http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads
[12:05] <kingspwned> hehe
[12:05] <kingspwned> Healot, kingspawn is me at home, so you're just about right
[12:06] <kingspwned> Healot, of course. if gaming is your thing, windows is clearly better and easier, etc.
[12:06] <Guard] [an> hello, do i have to recompile the kernel to have additionnal charsets ??? i need windows cp1252
[12:06] <dli> h0nus_, I don't know whether teamspeak will be blocked in China :(
[12:06] <shame_> dli, tried... it shows me errors with '-vo vesa' '-vo cvidix' 'yuv4mpeg' ... what else can I try?
[12:06] <dli> Guard] [an, in filesystems, NLS
[12:07] <Guard] [an> dli: could you develop please ?
[12:07] <h0nus_> don't think so
[12:07] <h0nus_> it's designed for gamers
[12:07] <h0nus_> all around the work
[12:07] <h0nus_> *world
[12:07] <Healot> Guard] [an, fot the latest kernel... windows cp1252 is included
[12:07] <Healot> or it is not wait
[12:07] <Guard] [an> dli: i need to make eclipse/cdt use cp1252
[12:07] <dli> shame_, you didnt build it correct, read about xv in mplayer docs
[12:07] <shame_> OK... thank you.
[12:07] <Guard] [an> and the dialog box simply offers UTF-8
[12:07] <formless> good day, good people of the room....
[12:07] <Guard] [an> US-ASCII and two others
[12:07] <kingspwned> formless, greetings
[12:08] <msid> is there any decent gui piece of software that can do video capture and editing?
[12:08] <Guard] [an> there is no windows cp1252 nor ISO8859-1 or ISO8859-15
[12:08] <h0nus_> dli, if i'm going to download the client from that site, do i want to save it to disk or open it with Archive Manager?
[12:08] <Healot> oh cp1251
[12:08] <dli> Guard] [an, enable some locales? I don't know, I use utf-8 and don't use jeclipse
[12:08] <sfar-ubu> i cant download libpanel-applet2-dev with synaptic, because it says libgnomeui-dev is unresovable.. how to fix?
[12:08] <dli> h0nus_, they should have instructions for ubuntu
[12:08] <Guard] [an> hmm ok
[12:09] <sfar-ubu> there should be nothing wrong with my sources.list
[12:09] <Healot> nls_iso8859-15.ko >> nls_iso8859-15 does included in 2.6.16
[12:09] <cA1mAn> where can i get the best, up-to-date ATI (radeon) drivers?
[12:09] <formless> i have a question: - is there an easy way to strip unseen chars down to just alnum's, only I seem to be having a bit of a mare with it  (scripting: bash - but a bit noob & trying to get my head round it all)
[12:09] <Healot> nls_iso8859-1.ko >> nls_iso8859-1 is in it too
[12:09] <graveson> does banshee work well on ubuntu with an IPOD connected
[12:09] <formless> ps: hi kingspwned
[12:10] <formless> ;)
[12:10] <kingspwned> heh
[12:10] <sfar-ubu> i _really_ need libpanel-applet2-dev :)
[12:10] <formless> kingspwned, you script?
[12:10] <Healot> i'm using the latest 2.6 kernel... pretty easy to make with debian's "make-kpkg"
[12:11] <Healot> cA1mAn, at ati.com
[12:11] <cA1mAn> for ubuntu?
[12:11] <Healot> it includes installer too...
[12:11] <cA1mAn> and these are good :-) ?
[12:11] <Healot> for all Linux distroes
[12:11] <cA1mAn> ok then
[12:11] <dli> Healot, I am confused by the V patch at kernel.org
[12:11] <formless> hello?
[12:12] <Healot> fyi... buggy, but answered your "up-to-date" request
[12:12] <bimberi> !tell cA1mAn about ati
[12:12] <Healot> v patches...
[12:12] <dli> Healot, say, patch-2.6.16.bz2 is a patch to get 2.6.16, but from which version?
[12:12] <Healot> hmm
[12:12] <variant> how can i switch the display language without logging in and out again?
[12:12] <cA1mAn> bimberi, thanks!
[12:12] <formless> am i visible here?
[12:12] <dli> variant, export LANG=
[12:12] <ubushine> graveson, i've used yamipod and gktpod for ipod stuff, never banshee
[12:12] <formless> anyone?
[12:12] <Healot> that's for the previous version kernel... 2.6.15
[12:13] <kingspwned> formless, yeah, but regexing is not my strongest side. plenty good bash tutorials on the web, tho
[12:13] <bimberi> cA1mAn: np :)
[12:13] <Healot> if you have the previous 2.6.15
[12:13] <dli> Healot, from 2.6.15.6, the previous version, I tried, couldn't apply
[12:13] <cA1mAn> anither question: for pentium4, the 686-kernel is the best?
[12:13] <kingspwned> formless, query me, and i'll try to help out with the script if i can
[12:13] <variant> dli: will that change the gnome interface lang?
[12:13] <Healot> dli, try to download the tar.gz file first
[12:14] <formless> kingspwned, ok - just that things dont seem to be working as they say they should - i';ll have another go & get back in a bit....
[12:14] <dli> Healot, which .tar.gz ?
[12:14] <cA1mAn> generally, does it optimize performance/stability to recompile my kernel?
[12:14] <formless> kingspwned, ok if I pvt you?
[12:14] <Healot> "linux-2.6.16.tar.gz" - stable release of 2.6.16
[12:14] <kingspwned> formless, sure
[12:14] <dli> variant, if you want the whole system changes, better to logout/login
[12:14] <kenas> how can i find a folder ?
[12:15] <dli> Healot, I'm on dialup :( got to apply a patch
[12:15] <Healot> i just compiled mine... but remember to remove "splash" option in menu.lst...
[12:15] <Healot> that option is avail for ubuntu's kernel only
[12:15] <dli> Healot, eventually, I make my own patch to patch 2.6.15.6 to 2.6.16, about 5MB
[12:15] <Healot> i'm on dialup too... GPRS... though
[12:16] <dli> kenas, try "locate foo", or, find /usr -type d -name "foo*"
[12:16] <formless> kingspwned, hang on - having a bit of a realisation... ;/
[12:16] <Healot> yeah 5meg... but I am not sure that 2.6.16 patch is for 2.6.15.x....
[12:16] <kingspwned> formless, grand!
[12:17] <dli> Healot, I couldnt find out an explaination at kernel.org, weird enough
[12:17] <bimberi> cA1mAn: yes (to 686 - a marginal performance gain as i understand it).  if possible it's best to stay with ubuntu kernels because you'll continue to get security patches
[12:17] <dli> Healot, the VI patch is clean, they have both versions in name
[12:17] <graveson> ubushine: how can i install yamipod
[12:17] <h0nus_> ok this is gonna be a ridiculously simple question but it's my first day... once i've downloaded a tar.gz or tar.bz2 to /tmp what is the proper way to install it?
[12:18] <ubushine> graveson, download it from the website?
[12:18] <dli> h0nus_, read the instructions
[12:18] <Healot> neither do I... thus I dl the latest kernel instead
[12:18] <ubushine> graveson, http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/downloads/
[12:18] <h0nus_> dli, can you direct me? i didn't see installation instructions on the site
[12:18] <graveson> ubushine: no debian package - normally simpler
[12:18] <graveson> ubushine : ok thanks
[12:19] <ubushine> graveson, just download it, there's no installation
[12:19] <bimberi> h0nus_: tell us what it is (just in case there's a better way to install)
[12:19] <dli> Healot, it's 3KB/s, for 40MB of kernel source, you do the math :(
[12:19] <Healot> you have this file "linux-2.6.15.tar.gz" right?
[12:19] <h0nus_> teamspeak 2 client
[12:19] <Healot> that's more than 2 hours
[12:20] <dli> Healot, I have a folder already, /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.6
[12:20] <bimberi> h0nus_: kk (don't see that one in ubuntu's repositories)
[12:20] <dli> Healot, and I downloaded the patch, patch-2.6.16.bz2 , doesn't apply
[12:20] <Healot> and "patch-2.6.16.bz2", the patch file right
[12:20] <h0nus_> bimberi, no you probably won't-- it's a chat client for gamers
[12:20] <Healot> what did you do to patch it, commands you typed?
[12:21] <dli> Healot, eventually, I use a remote computer with fast pipe, downloaded, linux-2.6.15.6.tar.bz2 and linux-2.6.16.tar.bz2, and untar them, and make a patch from them, the patch works
[12:21] <kenas> /home/kenas/.wine
[12:21] <kenas>  <------ how can i access this folder ??
[12:22] <bimberi> h0nus_: you unpack a .tar.gz with 'tar xvzf <file>', a .tar.bz2 with 'tar xvjf <file>' - then look for install instructions in a file called README or INSTALL
[12:22] <kingspwned> kenas: cd /home/kenas/.wine
[12:22] <dli> Healot, in kernel folder, bzcat /usr/src/patch-2.6.16.bz2 |patch -p1
[12:22] <h0nus_> thank you very much!
[12:22] <kenas> .wine does exist
[12:22] <C-O-L-T> how to add other dictionaries (languages) to dictionary applet
[12:22] <Healot> on the src folder right dli ?
[12:23] <dli> Healot, yes, the kernel source folder
[12:23] <graveson> how can i remove the hissing sound from a recording in audacity
[12:23] <dli> Healot, some hunks don't apply
[12:23] <Healot> not all patched eh?
[12:23] <Healot> but you successfully at some remote machine?
[12:25] <Healot> vi patch. the view incremental patch huh...
[12:25] <h0nus_> geez... why when i try to cd in terminal does it say the extension is not there?
[12:25] <dli> Healot, on the remote machine, I downloaded both kernel source trees, and made a patch out of them, that patch applied on my 2.6.15.6 tree, "make-kpkg clean", "make oldconfig", "make-kpkg kernel-image" gave me 2.6.16
[12:25] <h0nus_> i know it's there =\
[12:26] <Healot> you dl'ed the vi patch, not the v patch?
[12:26] <dirk_> hello
[12:26] <dli> Healot, no, the vi patch if to patch from 2.6.16-rc6
[12:26] <bimberi> h0nus_: use 'ls' to check what files are in the directory you're currently in
[12:27] <Healot> but doesnt patch well in your machine? dli
[12:27] <dli> Healot, it's not the machine :(
[12:28] <dli> Healot, I will test again on the machine with fast pipe
[12:28] <h0nus_> bimberi, my syntax was wrong
[12:28] <bimberi> h0nus_: kk
[12:29] <Healot> mmkay
[12:29] <dli> Healot, it runs reiser4, quite fast with kernel source
[12:29] <h0nus_> bimberi, how do I "start up" a file with a .sh extension?
[12:29] <h0nus_> (this is verbatum from a readme)
[12:29] <Kezzer> I can't get xserver to start, I've just installed Ubuntu and I have an ATi card
[12:29] <Kezzer> I've followed the binary how to on the wiki but it still hasn't worked
[12:29] <bimberi> h0nus_: sh file.sh
[12:29] <smee56> can you install ubuntu as an opperating system of a live cd
[12:30] <dade> can anyone help me with my ethernet please?
[12:30] <h0nus_> bimberi, thanks again
[12:31] <dade> ...
[12:31] <cavediver> Hi. Is there a graphical administration application for managing LVM2 volumes ?
[12:32] <bimberi> dade: ask a more detailed question and if someone knows they'll try to help
[12:32] <dli> cafuego, can you tell me which kernel source the V patch patch-2.6.16.bz2 should be applied on to make 2.6.16 source? (from kernel.org)
[12:33] <ReWT_AxS> how can i do a search to see if somone put a backdoor into my computer?
[12:33] <h0nus_> bimberi, one more question
[12:33] <dli> ReWT_AxS, rkhunter, chkrootkit
[12:33] <dade> ok when i ifconfig eth0 it seems only ipv6 is enabled and dhcp on my lan doesn't work
[12:33] <ReWT_AxS> those programs?
[12:33] <bimberi> smee56: i believe you can install from the breezy live CD, it's the 'live-expert' boot option (or something like that) use the Function keys at the boot prompt to explore the options
[12:33] <dade> so i can get connected to the internet with my laptop
[12:33] <k31th> ReWT_AxS: you can try using tiger
[12:34] <ReWT_AxS> how?
[12:34] <k31th> install it and running also use chkrootkit
[12:34] <dli> ReWT_AxS, yes, install them, and run, however, if it's rooted already, you couldn't trust those tools either
[12:34] <k31th> and run it*
[12:34] <Abnix> could someone do me a favor please? I'm using a new ISP and can't seem to nmap myself, so could someone please do sso (nmap 69.216.246.227) and pm me the details?
[12:34] <k31th> ReWT_AxS: apt-cache search 'package name'
[12:35] <bimberi> h0nus_: sure, feel free to just ask the channel, if i know i'll answer :)
[12:35] <dli> Abnix, no opoen port found
[12:35] <ReWT_AxS> rewt@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search chkrootkit
[12:35] <ReWT_AxS> chkrootkit - Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system
[12:35] <ReWT_AxS> rkhunter - rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner
[12:35] <ReWT_AxS> how do i use either of them
[12:35] <Abnix> dli: thanks
[12:35] <Abnix> and, damnit....
[12:36] <Abnix> no web and email hosting for me...
[12:36] <h0nus_> now that I have installed the program correctly, i find a .sh file that runs the desired program
[12:36] <ReWT_AxS> dli
[12:36] <dade> anyone? link ok, driver ok, only ipV6 loaded (ifconfig), network unreachable: how do i solve?
[12:36] <h0nus_> is there any way to link this with the provided icon and put it on my gnome desktop?
[12:36] <dli> Abnix, open ssh, let me see whether I can connect to the port
[12:36] <ReWT_AxS> how do i get those aps?
[12:37] <ReWT_AxS> i foundthem in the cache search
[12:37] <g0dchild> why do apps keep crashing  on ubuntu?
[12:37] <dli> ReWT_AxS, apt-get install rkhunter chkrootkit
[12:38] <veldorzvizzerd> hey y'all, its me again, I downloaded the deb package for openwengo - I double-clicked on it and got a message 'archive type not supported', what should I do to install it?
[12:38] <g0dchild> Its almost impossible to get anything done....do i need to compile 'em to make 'em stable?
[12:39] <sfar-ubu> veldorzvizzerd: dpkg - i  filename.deb
[12:39] <Kezzer> the error I'm getting in my Xorg.0.log file is saying no symbols found in libGLcore, any ideas on how to fix it?
[12:39] <veldorzvizzerd> cheers sfar-ubu
[12:39] <sfar-ubu> "-i" even
[12:39] <sfar-ubu> no space between - and i ..
[12:39] <[nige] > hello
[12:39] <veldorzvizzerd> yep
[12:40] <bimberi> h0nus_: right-click on the desktop, select 'Create Launcher'
[12:40] <rewt> after i d/l these?
[12:40] <rewt> what do i do
[12:41] <rewt> ??
[12:41] <bimberi> h0nus_: command will be the path to the .sh file,  you'll also be able to set an icon
[12:41] <betim> I have hp nc6120 and monitor works like CRT on 50hz
[12:41] <rewt> dli, can u help with this post fix intallation stuff?
[12:41] <betim> and I'm running ubuntu
[12:42] <veldorzvizzerd> sfar-ubu, I still get a problem with installing it, it says 'no such file or directory'
[12:42] <h0nus_> bimberi, there's an image that comes with the program that i would like to use as the icon, but it does not appear in the list
[12:42] <h0nus_> how can i use it?
[12:43] <rewt> ?
[12:43] <bimberi> h0nus_: there should be a Browse.. button in the Icon Selection window
[12:43] <sfar-ubu> veldorzvizzerd: its case sensitive.. File.deb is not the same as file.deb
[12:43] <h0nus_> bimberi, the image extension is .xmp
[12:43] <h0nus_> bibmeri, yes i see it now ty
[12:44] <rewt> ?
[12:44] <sfar-ubu> type "ls" and make sure you are in the correct folder.. then type "dpkg -i <first two letters of the filename and press TAB>
[12:44] <sfar-ubu> "
[12:44] <h0nus_> bimberi, do i want to run it in terminal or no?
[12:45] <bimberi> h0nus_: not if it's a GUI app
[12:45] <h0nus_> cool works TY!
[12:45] <bimberi> h0nus_: great! :)
[12:46] <rewt> anyone here ever use chkrootkit or rkhunter
[12:46] <veldorzvizzerd> sfar-ubu:yes, I typed it exactly as it is, case sensitive
[12:46] <rewt> ?
[12:46] <veldorzvizzerd> still had the same prob
[12:46] <sfar-ubu> okay, are you sure you are in the folder that contains the file?
[12:46] <sfar-ubu> whats the file called btw
[12:46] <h0nus_> learning SO much more than i would reading a friggin book lol
[12:46] <h0nus_> well it's 4am here
[12:46] <h0nus_> i think i'll save my sound issues for another time
[12:47] <bimberi> h0nus_: :) ok  -  btw you can drag the launcher onto a panel to have a button there
[12:47] <veldorzvizzerd> yep, I typed this ->  /home/vizzerd/desktop/wengophone-0.958m-1.i386.deb
[12:47] <veldorzvizzerd> which is where it is saved
[12:47] <h0nus_> :o
[12:47] <h0nus_> nice
[12:47] <h0nus_> =)
[12:47] <veldorzvizzerd> but still got the same message
[12:47] <rewt> k31th, are you still here?
[12:47] <h0nus_> g'night all
[12:48] <sfar-ubu> veldorzvizzerd: i think you must type Desktop with a capital D :)
[12:48] <veldorzvizzerd> will try so, thanks :)
[12:48] <veldorzvizzerd> yay, it worked, cheers sfar-ubu ^^
[12:48] <sfar-ubu> type /home/v and then press tab and it will autocomplete for you
[12:48] <rewt> anyone here ever use chkrootkit or rkhunter?
[12:48] <veldorzvizzerd> will do, thanks
[12:49] <sfar-ubu> /home/vizzerd/d+tab will make nothing happen... /home/vizzerd/D+tab will work :) .. tab is a very nice button in terminal =D
[12:49] <sfar-ubu> *key
[12:49] <veldorzvizzerd> thanks for the tip, much easier to do stuff that way :)
[12:49] <Xenguy> rewt: yes
[12:49] <rewt> xen does it alwayd ask for a postfix configuration?
[12:50] <veldorzvizzerd> dinnertime, cyaz, thanks again sfar-ubu :)
[12:50] <sfar-ubu> veldorzvizzerd: one more thing..  ~/ = /home/username/
[12:50] <veldorzvizzerd> oh
[12:50] <veldorzvizzerd> what is that for
[12:50] <veldorzvizzerd> ?
[12:50] <sfar-ubu> so ~/Desktop/wengophone-0.958m-1.i386.deb :)
[12:50] <Xenguy> rewt: I'm not exactly sure what you mean; is there a specific error?
[12:50] <veldorzvizzerd> ah, i c
[12:50] <sfar-ubu> is the same as /home/username/Desktop/wengophone-0.958m-1.i386.deb
[12:50] <rewt> Xenguy, bc it is asking me for one right after i installed it
[12:51] <veldorzvizzerd> oh - kewl ^^
[12:51] <veldorzvizzerd> cheers
[12:51] <rewt> once it installed i got a blue screen
[12:51] <sfar-ubu> very useable :) cheers
[12:51] <veldorzvizzerd> well, gotta run, cya
[12:51] <rewt> in my terminal
[12:51] <sfar-ubu> later mate :>
[12:51] <rewt> says Ubuntu Configuration
[12:51] <rewt> Postfix configuration              General type of configuration?
[12:51] <rewt> then i have 5 options
[12:52] <Xenguy> rewt: it sounds like postfix was installed as part of whatever installation you just did...
[12:52] <rewt> no configuration, internet site, internet with smarthost, satellite system, local only
[12:52] <rewt> what should i choose?
[12:52] <Xenguy> rewt: and now Ubu is configuring postfix for you
[12:53] <rewt> whatcshould i choose?
[12:53] <Xenguy> rewt: it depends on what your email setup is...
[12:53] <rewt> i use gmail
[12:53] <Xenguy> rewt: then maybe you just want 'no configuration', or 'local only' for now...
[12:54] <Xenguy> rewt: you can always adjust config later with 'dpkg-reconfigure postfix'
[12:54] <rewt> okay
[12:54] <kenas> how do i do this ? "Did you set up the ~/.wine/config file so it points to some real drives.  Or make the symlinks in ~/.wine/dosdevices?"
[12:54] <rewt> so once chkrootkit is finished how do i begin searching?
[12:54] <br> WINDOWS LEET
[12:54] <auth00> Good day ppl
[12:55] <Xenguy> rewt: at command prompt type:  chkrootkit |less
[12:55] <Xenguy> rewt: man chkrootkit
[12:55] <auth00> I have been fiddling around with gnome-volume-manager this morning to get it to behavase I would like without editing the source and I have come up with a feature suggestion
[12:56] <auth00> where is the best place to post such a suggestion?
[12:56] <auth00> to the gnome peaple themselves or somewhere in the ubuntu community?
[12:57] <IdleOne> auth00, I believe on www.ubuntu.com there is a link for feature requests . Im not certain though
[12:57] <Fracture> if you find the link, make mention of it here.. i'm interested too
[12:57] <GnarusLeo> How does wine work? Can you install programs with wine? Or do you have to isntall it on a win machine to get the .exe file?
[12:58] <auth00> IdleOne: thanks
[12:58] <cilkay> Hello. What's this: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /tmp/.var.run ? I see that on the console at boot time. Repeats for /tmp/.var.lock
[12:58] <auth00> Fracture: sure thing
[12:58] <rewt> Xenguy, thats all i do is run that simple less command?
[12:58] <Xenguy> GnarusLeo: you install with wine; d0ze is not needed
[12:58] <Fracture> auth00: thanks
[12:58] <Xenguy> rewt: chkrootkit | less
[12:58] <bimberi> GnarusLeo: the installer itself is usually a .exe :)
[12:58] <rewt> i just did that
[12:58] <dj-fu> auth00, what is your feature request? I am interested :D
[12:58] <GnarusLeo> Xenguy, how do I do that? I have a .exe file, and when I tyr opening it with wine nothing happens
[12:58] <Xenguy> rewt: that's a 'pipe' in between the two
[12:59] <IdleOne> GnarusLeo, you can install windows apps with wine. command in terminal is wine filename.exe to install/run the program
[12:59] <rewt> i know i just ran that command...it check a buncha stuff
[12:59] <Xenguy> GnarusLeo: /join #winehq
[12:59] <Gabbe> hey
[01:00] <IdleOne> hey Gabbe
[01:00] <Xenguy> rewt: that's it -- it you do 'man chkrootkit' you can confirm this for yourself
[01:00] <Xenguy> if you
[01:00] <Gabbe> How is that apache2 with mysql and php5 is very slow when pictures are shown?
[01:01] <rewt> is there anyway to put a backdoor in and it not be noticed?
[01:01] <Gabbe> someone have a clue?
[01:01] <IdleOne> Gabbe, depends on file size and speed of connection on the server and a few other things Im sure but dont ask me how to speed it up
[01:01] <Gabbe> I have 100mb connection to internet up and down and the file is about 30kb
[01:02] <auth00> dj-fu: there is an autorun feature in gnome-volume-manager which makes it possible to run a script of our choosing if you name it autoron.sh (one can choose the names that are valid in gconf) and place it in the root of the removable media. Before the script is run one gets a popup with the question "Do you want to run this script". That is good if you dont know if you trust the script, but I would like a feature that i something like "trusted volumes" wh
[01:02] <DarthShrine> Odd...Installed the GTK+-2.0 devel package, and when trying to compile an app I made I get "gcc:  -lgtk-x11-2.0: No such file or directory"
[01:02] <danf_1979> Oh my god, I just learned about the questions.dat thingy...
[01:03] <sfar-ubu> danf_1979: whats that? :)
[01:03] <auth00> dj-fu: That would come in handy for my ipod where I want too downlaod my online calendars everytime I connect it and I have access to the internet
[01:03] <IdleOne> DarthShrine, sudoa pt-get install build-essential
[01:03] <[Nige] > anyone know how to get xinerama working with kubuntu+ati
[01:03] <danf_1979> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143334
[01:03] <danf_1979> read carefully
[01:03] <dj-fu> auth00, gtkpod managed automatically syncing stuff to it
[01:03] <[Nige] > !xinerama
[01:03] <ubotu> [xinerama]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[01:03] <auth00> dj-fu: yes, but I dont like gtkpod
[01:03] <DarthShrine> IdleOne, I've got that.
[01:03] <dj-fu> lol
[01:03] <dj-fu> alright
[01:04] <danf_1979> Thats why john the ripper guessed my pass so easily... He just checked questions.dat!
[01:04] <danf_1979> lol
[01:05] <IdleOne> DarthShrine, what are you trying to intall?
[01:05] <cilkay> On shutdown, I see "umount: /var/run: not mounted...umount: varrun: not found" same thing repeats for varrlock. On startup, it complains about /tmp/.var.run. Is this some Debianism? I've never seen it on the other distros I've used.
[01:06] <DarthShrine> IdleOne, Trying to compile a simple GTK app.
[01:06] <danf_1979> checkout, security issue, HUGE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143334
[01:06] <IdleOne> DarthShrine, I assume you checked the repos for the app and it isnt there
[01:07] <rewt> where can i view logfiles?
[01:07] <DarthShrine> IdleOne, I would hope it isn't as I just created it...
[01:07] <IdleOne> DarthShrine, :) k then it isnt
[01:07] <Gabbe> hmm
[01:08] <Gabbe> someone got skype to work in dapper flight 5?
[01:08] <rewt> where can i view logfiles?
[01:08] <elad`> !imwheel
[01:08] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elad`
[01:08] <auth00> Fracture: I couldn't find anywhere to post such a thing ubuntu.com.. and now I must go, but if I find it later i'll come back to you
[01:08] <Fracture> auth00: cheers
[01:08] <Gabbe> Fracture How did you install it?
[01:08] <Fracture> !skype
[01:08] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[01:08] <DarthShrine> IdleOne, Looks like a GTK libs prob
[01:09] <IdleOne> DarthShrine, probably yeah
[01:09] <Fracture> Gabbe: I downloaded the static binary from skype and unzipped it
[01:09] <Gabbe> Is breezy installation known to work in dapper?
[01:09] <DarthShrine> Though I wouldn't know how to fix it :)
[01:09] <Gabbe> I have done that too but I cannot get my mic to work
[01:09] <danf_1979> Ubuntu users: Security issue, HUGE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143334
[01:10] <DarthShrine> Hehe, good think I didn't use the installer then :)
[01:11] <GnarusLeo> danf_1979, thanks! This is a major mistake!
[01:11] <IdleOne> DarthShrine, libglib2.0-0 - The GLib library of C routines
[01:11] <IdleOne>  < maybe thats it ?
[01:12] <DarthShrine> IdleOne, Dunno, it says it's a gtk-x11-2.0 lib it can't find
[01:13] <sfar-ubu> danf_1979: that has already been fixed
[01:13] <danf_1979> Yeah right...
[01:14] <Fracture> who prefers python or mono for GTK based dev ?
[01:14] <danf_1979> So the devs fixes every ubuntu, remotely...
[01:14] <danf_1979> :)
[01:15] <sfar-ubu> ?
[01:17] <lisi> hi - can someone help me with an ethernet modem question?
[01:17] <[Nige] > !kde
[01:17] <ubotu> well, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[01:17] <variant> lo all, im running ubuntu on a remote computer and am accessing with ssh from a windows box at work. i would like to administer it graphically so how do i connect to it with vnc?
[01:17] <sfar-ubu> danf_1979: well ofcourse the user needs to update..
[01:18] <variant> lisi: just ask
[01:18] <Fracture> is there any way in linux to permit a non root user to bind to a port < 1024 ?
[01:18] <danf_1979> Yes, :)
[01:19] <lisi> I configured my dsl modem no problem with pppoeconf, works fine, but I selected the option to start at boot up and it doesn't do that
[01:19] <sfar-ubu> but still.. if the system has not been updated for a week i guess its nothing important on it :)
[01:19] <lisi> Plus I can't start it with pon, I have to run pppoeconf each time I boot up
[01:19] <mjr> Fracture, via so called capabilities, but it's goes kinda into darker magicks how to apply said capabilities to processes...
[01:20] <Fracture> mjr: ok.. so you can't point me to where I can read about this ?
[01:20] <kamil> hello, how I can erase cdrw in ubuntu amd64 & gnome?
[01:20] <kamil> any program from this?
[01:21] <IdleOne> kamil, gnomebaker and you click on Blank Disc I believe
[01:21] <GnarusLeo> Hi, when I try to "wine program.exe" i get this error: Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[01:21] <Blippe> !rbscrobbler
[01:21] <ubotu> Blippe: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:22] <kamil> GnarusLeo: try xwine
[01:22] <kamil> run
[01:22] <cilkay> variant: if you must use a GUI for such a lame reason as remote admin, you would be better served by running FreeNX. It's faster the VNC and is easy to set up. Poke around on the forums and you'll find an apt repository for it.
[01:22] <variant> cilkay: i dont need it for remote admin
[01:22] <[Nige] > anyone know howto specify to different wallpapers for 2 different monitors in kde
[01:22] <[Nige] > ?
[01:22] <Fracture> cilkay: freeNX is bloody cool
[01:23] <variant> vikke: i am just sick of using this windows 2000 desktop at work and want to use gnome for a while
[01:23] <variant> cilkay: i am just sick of using this windows 2000 desktop at work and want to use gnome for a while
[01:23] <GnarusLeo> kamil, Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libindustrial.so",
[01:23] <variant> cilkay: and the win computer allready has tightvnc installed on it
[01:24] <Fracture> variant: you could install the free vmware server product and install ubuntu in a vm :)
[01:24] <cilkay> variant: Forgive me for thinking you wanted to do remote admin [01:24] <cilkay> variant: there is a free client for NX
[01:24] <variant> pff.. that was just a figure of speach
[01:24] <cilkay> It's really a slick product.
[01:24] <variant> Fracture: and get fired :P
[01:24] <Fracture> variant: hehe
[01:24] <variant> cilkay: free as in gpl?
[01:25] <cilkay> No, the client is a binary but free as in no cost. The server is GPL.
[01:25] <Fracture> variant: seriously, checkout freeNX, you can run a remote x desktop at almost local speeds.. its quite amazing
[01:25] <cilkay> But you can buy a commercial server too.
[01:25] <planB> lisi, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141816
[01:25] <Fracture> cilkay: is there a windows server for freeNx ?
[01:25] <variant> cilkay: is there a gpl client?
[01:25] <ReWT_AxS> is it okay to delete the user i created when installing ubuntu as long as i havea new user in the ame group?
[01:25] <cilkay> variant: what Fracture said. We use FreeNX to deploy PyQt apps to deprived Windows users.
[01:25] <ReWT_AxS> *same
[01:26] <variant> ReWT_AxS: yes
[01:26] <cilkay> Fracture: no
[01:26] <cilkay> variant: yes, but it's lame.
[01:26] <kingspwned> ReWT_AxS, should be
[01:26] <john__> hey
[01:26] <variant> cilkay: i would rather stick to Free software (libre)
[01:26] <ReWT_AxS> how can i use my settings in this user name in the new username?
[01:26] <Fracture> variant: yet you run windows ;)
[01:26] <lisi> planB - thanks, I'll check it out
[01:26] <variant> Fracture: my employer runs windows.. im just forced to use it
[01:27] <variant> im not going to use non free software without being forced too..
[01:27] <Fracture> variant: then, use the free freeNX client on windows.. and when you use a linux desktop, use the linux free client
[01:28] <variant> im quite happy with vnc att this time.. its a very fast gigabyte network.. so can anyone tell me how to connect it?
[01:28] <cilkay> variant: that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. NoMachine.com, the creators of the NX technology, are huge supporters of free software. They have significant IP in the client so they don't release the source. I don't have a problem with that. It works very well.
[01:28] <variant> i guess i have to start a vncserver
[01:28] <DarthShrine> Odd...Installed the libgtk2.0-dev package, and when trying to compile an app I made I get "gcc:  -lgtk-x11-2.0: No such file or directory"
[01:28] <cilkay> variant: run it over an ssh tunnel.
[01:28] <variant> IP? if you say intelectual property i will just laugh in your face (no offence though)
[01:29] <variant> cilkay: its a trusted network
[01:29] <Juhaz> variant, preferences->remote desktop
[01:30] <suppaman> hi
[01:30] <suppaman> I've installed a plain ubuntu, now I've installed xubuntu-desktop, is there a way I can uninstall gnome ?
[01:31] <variant> Juhaz: thanks, but im logged in to the ubuntu machine with ssh
[01:32] <C-O-L-T> how to delete printer jobs??? Where to find that menu?
[01:32] <variant> cilkay: part of the reason i want to do this graphically is that i plan to give xgl a try.. cant test that with ssh
[01:32] <natasa> Niko?
[01:32] <cilkay> variant: yeah, whatever
[01:32] <Fracture> variant: good luck testing xgl over a remote connection
[01:32] <bimberi> C-O-L-T: system -> administration -> printing
[01:33] <Fracture> variant: you should download a live cd that has it already setup if you want to see it work
[01:33] <variant> Fracture: just to install it and see that it will actualy work
[01:33] <C-O-L-T> bimberi: yeah I know but where to get the jobs there
[01:33] <Fracture> variant: sounds like more pain than its worth ;)
[01:33] <Fracture> variant: it works.. but you have to work to make it work
[01:34] <bimberi> C-O-L-T: double-click on the printer
[01:34] <ReWT_AxS> how can i delete one user, but put it's settings as another uers
[01:34] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[01:34] <ReWT_AxS> user*
[01:34] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: rename the user?
[01:34] <variant> Fracture: im at work, not very busy, plenty of time to spare
[01:34] <ReWT_AxS> how
[01:34] <funkyHat> I need to run xmodmap before metacity starts, how do I do it?
[01:34] <C-O-L-T> bimberi: I get there Queue name, type, options
[01:35] <Fracture> variant: don't let your boss hear you say that
[01:35] <variant> hehe
[01:35] <ReWT_AxS> seems as if the username is permanent
[01:35] <suppaman> >variant< Fracture: just to install it and see that it will actualy work
[01:35] <suppaman> it won't :-)
[01:35] <Fracture> suppaman: ?
[01:35] <Juhaz> vncserver is a separate X server, you can't use it with xgl
[01:35] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: well, not for the newbie but use "vipw" to edit the /etc/passwd file and rename the user.  don't forget their groups too with "vigr"
[01:35] <cilkay> permanent username, hmm. Burned into the disk huh?
[01:36] <variant> Juhaz: ah, i see
[01:36] <Fracture> Juhaz: that makes sense
[01:36] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: I don't think there's a gnome gui for doing that
[01:36] <variant> Juhaz: so perhaps freenx is the only way to use it
[01:36] <Juhaz> the gnome vnc server (vino) might work
[01:37] <Juhaz> or might not
[01:37] <bimberi> C-O-L-T: hm, that's different to me, i get a window with a list of jobs and the option to pause/cancel etc.
[01:37] <cilkay> xgl is what, eye candy? Gamer crap? If so, I doubt NX is going to be useful for that.
[01:37] <C-O-L-T> bimberi: I have gnome 2.14
[01:37] <`mrz> Good afternoon
[01:38] <Fracture> variant: if you want to see xgl in action, download a video of it ;)
[01:38] <`mrz> I'd like to have automaticly mounted some nfs locations at start-up. /etc/fstab is being read before the network configuration, so it's kinda useless. is there a better way?
[01:38] <bimberi> C-O-L-T: hmmk, i have 2.13.92 (unupdated flight5)
[01:38] <variant> Fracture: i did, thats why i want to try it :P
[01:38] <C-O-L-T> bimberi: The fact is that I use fedora 5
[01:38] <Juhaz> freenx is in essence also a separate X server (on the client end) + bunch of compression stuff for the protocol, so no luck there either
[01:39] <bimberi> C-O-L-T: ...
[01:39] <Gabbe> I have xgl installed and its only eye-candy.
[01:39] <variant> Juhaz: anyway.. with vnc you can connect to an existing xserver.. so if that was an xgl server would it not work?
[01:39] <ReWT_AxS> how do i save in vipw?
[01:40] <C-O-L-T> bimberi: and can not find printer jobs. I installed fedora yesterday. I used ubuntu for long, just I was curious
[01:40] <Fracture> anyone here recommend a portable media player that plays ogg ?
[01:40] <bertos> hi there, can anybody tell me if there is a pyhon-soya package in ubuntu repositories??
[01:40] <ReWT_AxS> wongy, how do i get out of vipw and save it?
[01:40] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: which editor?  nano?  you can just exit and it will prompt to save, just take the default.  after that use "vipw -s" to edit the shadow passwd file too
[01:41] <bertos> i looked for it but can't find.. checket at ftp.belnet.be.. no results:/
[01:41] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know of a Mini Disc music manager for linux?
[01:41] <jadaz87> Mini Disc Player*
[01:41] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: same drill for groups, "vigr" and "vigr -s"
[01:42] <ReWT_AxS> wongy, rewt@ubuntu:~$ sudo vipw -s
[01:42] <ReWT_AxS> Password:
[01:42] <ReWT_AxS> sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
[01:42] <kenas> how can i update my wine ?
[01:43] <C-O-L-T> bimberi: any opinion where to get printer jobs?
[01:43] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: um, you didn't change the user that you are logged in as did you?
[01:43] <bertos> kenas, run synaptic, find wine package and checkt for update
[01:44] <ReWT_AxS> wongy, yes
[01:44] <bimberi> C-O-L-T: http://localhost:631  perhaps
[01:44] <bimberi> !tell kenas about wine
[01:44] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: do you have the root password set?  if so use "su -" to log in as root and do what you need to do
[01:45] <ReWT_AxS> no i dont
[01:45] <nikko> hi... problems with my sound.... I have copied my lspci -v ind http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10715 and my amixer '-c0' in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10716... plz someone look at it..
[01:45] <ReWT_AxS> wait i just back up my steps
[01:45] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: oh...that may be bad...let me think a second
[01:45] <C-O-L-T> bimberi: it is cool but I can not delete jobs over here does not let's me
[01:46] <ReWT_AxS> wongy, nah i just fixed it lol
[01:46] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: oh good, what;d you do?
[01:46] <ReWT_AxS> so now logout of this one im changing to another admin account?
[01:46] <bimberi> C-O-L-T: ok, i don't know then sorry
[01:46] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: BTW set the root password with "sudo passwd" then you have that available to save yourself :-)
[01:46] <blue> jooosss
[01:46] <ReWT_AxS> Wongy, i still had the users open so i just hit okay and the window closed, i guess rewrote everything then noi can use sudo again
[01:46] <C-O-L-T> bimberi: no problem
[01:47] <ReWT_AxS> well i have 1 more user with the same amount of privelages as me
[01:47] <ReWT_AxS> if i rename the account will it's settings be lost?
[01:47] <Fracture> what's a good tv tuner program for gnome/ubuntu ?
[01:47] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: you'll have to rename the home directory too.  on the disk and in /etc/passwd with vipw
[01:48] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: this is a little bit of open heart surgery :-)  set the root passwd now!
[01:48] <kenas> i have repositories problems and i dont know how to update my wine
[01:48] <bimberi> Fracture: tvtime is one
[01:48] <kenas> can anyone help me ?
[01:48] <aanarchy> anyone here with a Vaio labtop?
[01:48] <ReWT_AxS> wongy i have another user with same privelages?
[01:48] <Fracture> bimberi: taa
[01:49] <aanarchy> anyone here with a Vaio labtop? /msg me
[01:49] <ReWT_AxS> k
[01:49] <ReWT_AxS> i set the root pw
[01:49] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: you also have to update the sudoers file with "visudo".  you could use the other user but I still strongly recomend setting the root password as the ultimate backout
[01:49] <bimberi> Fracture: np :)   btw the iRiver plays ogg, i haven't used one so can recommend it though
[01:49] <Fracture> bimberi: thanks again
[01:49] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: cool
[01:49] <bimberi> Fracture: *can't recommend*
[01:50] <ReWT_AxS> wongy will i lose this users settings if i change the username?
[01:50] <natasa> hi... problems with my sound.... I have copied my lspci -v ind http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10715 and my amixer '-c0' in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10716... plz someone look at it..
[01:50] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: no, just rename the user's home directory from /home/oldname to /home/newname
[01:50] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: don't forget to do it in /etc/passwd too
[01:51] <ReWT_AxS> wongy so get off this user
[01:51] <ReWT_AxS> get on another
[01:51] <ReWT_AxS> then do all this to the use i logged out of
[01:51] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[01:51] <chmod775> Is there a irc over http
[01:51] <chmod775> I mean over the web browser
[01:51] <chmod775> ?
[01:52] <ReWT_AxS> how do i use vipw
[01:52] <chmod775> !irc
[01:52] <ubotu> somebody said irc was info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[01:52] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: yep, log in as another user with full sudo access.
[01:53] <ReWT_AxS> k ill brb
[01:53] <wongy> ReWT_AxS: man vipw
[01:53] <bertos> how can i pass 'vga=791' to kernel on liveCD boot.. it says it can't find 'vga=791 kenrell'..???
[01:54] <bertos> .. using laptop, and cant see anything, blank screen
[01:55] <Google_Firefox>  instruction Google Adsense http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download Firefox - http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[01:59] <MrPockets> how do i uninstall a program?
[01:59] <kingspwned> MrPockets, entirely depends, but deselecting it in synaptic, apt-get remove <program> or just plain old deleting it
[02:00] <ludwikc> hey!
[02:00] <rewt_axs> hey
[02:01] <ludwikc> need somebody to help me with midi :(
[02:01] <ludwikc> anyone?
[02:01] <sfar-ubu> just ask
[02:02] <ludwikc> so: timidity - installed. Totem and Kaffeine doesn't know what "midi" means.
[02:03] <m0r0n> Is there a tool to show the cluster size of a disc and to resize if needed?
[02:03] <ludwikc> tried to install xmms-midi. ./configure - ok , but in make there is an error:
[02:03] <ludwikc> In file included from dumb_c.c:35:
[02:03] <ludwikc> mid.h:27:25: error: xmms/plugin.h: No such file or directory
[02:03] <ludwikc> In file included from dumb_c.c:35:
[02:03] <ludwikc> mid.h:30: error: syntax error before 'mid_ip'
[02:03] <ludwikc> mid.h:30: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
[02:03] <ludwikc> make: *** [dumb_c.lo]  B&#322;&#261;d 1
[02:03] <soundray> ludwikc: have you tried with aplaymidi?
[02:03] <MrPockets> aight, now say i have a eMule folder here, how do i install her?
[02:04] <ludwikc> soundray: no, should I? :> from apt-get or how ?
[02:04] <kingspwned> MrPockets, depends entirely on what is inside your folder. eMule is probably in the repositories
[02:04] <nikko> Hi... I have a strange problem... My xmms play soundfiles, but I can not here anything from the speakers.... I copy my lspci -v in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10715 and amixer '-c0' in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10716..... someone plz...
[02:04] <m0r0n> aMule
[02:04] <MrPockets> eMule
[02:04] <MrPockets> aMule
[02:04] <kingspwned> aMule, ok
[02:05] <Blissex> nikko: thats pretty common, and there can be very many causes. Follow the troubleshooting steps in http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[02:05] <MrPockets> it is, but when i do an apt-get download it loads the old version
[02:05] <rewt_axs> what do i need to get sound on my system
[02:06] <MrPockets> im trying to upgrade
[02:06] <rewt_axs> said something about i might now have the right gstreamer?
[02:06] <rewt_axs> *not
[02:10] <rewt_axs> how do i get sound?
[02:11] <variant> how do you set up universe and multiverse on the command line? the docs are for using the grphical tools
[02:12] <nickrud> variant, the simplest method is to use the source-o-matic
[02:12] <nickrud> !easysource
[02:12] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:12] <rewt_axs> whats the command to reconfigure sound?
[02:12] <rewt_axs> sudo dpkg-reconfigure...?
[02:12] <eggzeck> yeah variant, then  you edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:13] <variant> thanks guys
[02:13] <nickrud> variant, if you want to keep the standard sources, uncomment lines 19 & 20 in /etc/apt/sources.list , and add the multiverse to the ends of those lines
[02:13] <lisi> how do set the week in Gnome to start with Sun instead of Mon? for the clock on my panel and also KOrganizer
[02:13] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[02:14] <armin> hello together
[02:14] <armin> jemand im Raum?
[02:15] <kp_> Afternoon, i have just done a fresh install of ubuntu breezy and when i double click my cd/floppy/usb drive from the computer menu i get Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume how do i resolve this?
[02:15] <Fracture> anyone here setup ivtv on ubuntu ?
[02:15] <rewt_axs> sudo dpkg-reconfigure...? to do sound
[02:15] <xufang> #list
[02:16] <rewt_axs> Xenguy, how do you reconfigure sound?
[02:16] <circle`> hey
[02:16] <gabbah> when i press C-A-B GDM is shutdown, and in the terminal i see "waiting for X server to shutdown"... and then nothing happens. I'm still logged in as user. I have to start X manually! :( What could be wrong?
[02:18] <kp_> Afternoon, i have just done a fresh install of ubuntu breezy and when i double click my cd/floppy/usb drive from the computer menu i get Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume how do i resolve this?
[02:18] <Fracture> I installed ivtv and tvtime, and now I just have a blank screen :(
[02:20] <ArIeZ> anyone able to help me with a minor problem jus pm me pls
[02:20] <lisi> can anyone help me wth a calendar problem?
[02:22] <Yaksha> hey
[02:23] <Yaksha> i need help!! >.<
[02:23] <Abnix> no, you need PATIENCE.
[02:24] <ArIeZ> hi
[02:24] <Abnix> Lo
[02:24] <circle`> kh
[02:24] <ArIeZ> where ya from
[02:24] <funtable> lol
[02:24] <Abnix> ...did I just get ASL'd in a irc linux help channel??
[02:24] <philn> hello
[02:25] <copyleft> excuse me, we have two LoCoBot in #ubuntu-tw Channel, and it repeated the log twice. shall we kick one?
[02:25] <roshambo> hi
[02:25] <roshambo> i am trying to ssh in with no password between two ubuntu boxes. i'd like to be able to ssh in both directions, and put the same key in authorized_keys on both machines. is there any reason not to do this?
[02:26] <ArIeZ> i've been runnin ubuntu for 1 day now and i jus downloaded a file that i want to install
[02:26] <ArIeZ> and am having trouble with it
[02:26] <MrCollins> LOL Abnix
[02:26] <eggzeck> Abnix: you should have seen what someone asked in a perl channel
[02:27] <mwe> ArIeZ: what kind of file?
[02:27] <ArIeZ> deb file
[02:27] <lisi> can anyone help me?
[02:27] <mwe> ArIeZ: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:27] <mwe> ArIeZ: is for ubunut though?
[02:27] <ArIeZ> yes
[02:27] <mwe> ArIeZ: go ahead then
[02:28] <ArIeZ> where do i type that
[02:28] <mwe> ArIeZ: in a terminal
[02:28] <eggzeck> terminal
[02:28] <mwe> ArIeZ: cd to the folder containing it before sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:30] <Abnix> anyone know if there's a ubuntu for sparc machiens?
[02:30] <mwe> Abnix: I think not
[02:30] <Abnix> (being planned even)
[02:31] <mwe> Abnix: afaik it's targeted for intel and mac
[02:31] <philn> i found a bug in python2.4-samba package, how to report it ?
[02:31] <Abnix> *shrug* oh well....I'm only using the single most unsupported processor in all the world...
[02:31] <mwe> Abnix: the idea is only to support a limitid number of archs to be able to supply releases relatively fast
[02:32] <Abnix> that's a good ideal
[02:32] <Abnix> but man I'd give lefty to be able to give solaris here the boot...
[02:32] <philn> nevermind i've found
[02:32] <useruser> Abnix: debian?
[02:32] <nickrud> Abnix, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-14839.html
[02:32] <Abnix> not as in boot up, but as in my size 14...
[02:32] <mwe> Abnix: you should probably look for antohter distro, like debian
[02:33] <lisi> does anyone here use kshowmail?
[02:33] <mwe> lisi: is it a new mail notifier?
[02:33] <useruser> will ubuntu boot on a macbook pro?
[02:33] <eggzeck> yes
[02:33] <eggzeck> oh wait
[02:33] <lisi> yes
[02:33] <Abnix> actually, even though I'm here, I do prefer muchly to stay away from debian...
[02:33] <mwe> lisi: I use kbiff
[02:33] <useruser> cool
[02:33] <lisi> dose it let you read the text of the email or just the headers?
[02:34] <lisi> mwe: and can you delete from the server without downloading the email with it?
[02:34] <eggzeck> macbook pro is a lot of $$$$$ though heh
[02:34] <Abnix> I've managed several productions servers in my time, only one that was rooted was the fully-up-to-date debian rig...
[02:34] <useruser> which version do i need for that?
[02:34] <mwe> lisi: it shows new mail. then launches your email program when you click it
[02:35] <lisi> mwe: ah, I need something where I can delete the email without having to download everything first
[02:35] <eggzeck> why stay away from Debian?
[02:35] <lisi> mwe: thanks though
[02:35] <eggzeck> Debian is awesome
[02:35] <NickGarvey> :)
[02:35] <nickrud> lol
[02:35] <Frogzoo> Abnix: that's not a proper sample size tho
[02:36] <rewt_axs> sudo dpkg-reconfigure...? to do sound
[02:37] <useruser> lisi: do you have a link for the ubuntu-on-macbook lowdown? i want to know which version i need to get for that
[02:38] <bungle> !frostwire
[02:38] <chmod775> what's frostwire
[02:38] <chmod775> ?
[02:38] <rewt_axs> sudo dpkg-reconfigure sound
[02:38] <rewt_axs> is that it?
[02:38] <rewt_axs> bc its not working on mine
[02:38] <Frogzoo> !tell chmod775 about frostwire
[02:39] <Abnix> Frogzoo: well yes, I'll give you that, thing is my other reasons for not liking that distro most people discount as not valid/good reasons. So I stick with just mentioning the rooting
[02:39] <mwe> !tell rewt_axs about sound
[02:39] <ndlovu> any idea if the dapper version of openoffice is in backports?
[02:39] <Frogzoo> Abnix: fair nuff
[02:40] <Frogzoo> !tell ndlovu about ooo2
[02:40] <eggzeck> useruser: I doubt any of the current ones will, perhaps Dapper? But you have to wait until June 1st (but then again maybe 5.10 might)
[02:40] <mwe> ndlovu: I don't think so. There is a repo you can add to sources.list to get the latest OO.org though
[02:41] <useruser> eggzeck: ok
[02:41] <ndlovu> thanks Frogzoo
[02:41] <neo911> is it safe to use bittorrent? is it nothing like kazaa? thx
[02:41] <mwe> neo911: bittorrent is safe enough
[02:41] <ndlovu> and thanks also mwe
[02:42] <mwe> ndlovu: yw
[02:42] <neo911> it doesnt make my system vulnerable to hackers or trojans? :-/
[02:42] <useruser> neo911: shouldn't do. you just have to worry about the feds
[02:43] <neo911> i'm not really sure what am talkin about just want to be safe than sorry
[02:43] <johannesen> hi cafuego
[02:43] <Frogzoo> neo911: if you run azureus/something java based, you're safe as houses
[02:43] <neo911> ha ha if i download that's not a problem right? if i share then thats the time the feds will go after me
[02:43] <mwe> neo911: you always have to be somewhat careful about what you download
[02:44] <useruser> neo911: bittorrent shares while it downloads, as i understand it
[02:44] <eggzeck> you're always vulnerable to attacks, but i'd say you're much more safe using Linux
[02:44] <neo911> Frogzoo, i d/l this thing called bittornado client
[02:44] <useruser> neo911: that's what makes it all work :)
[02:44] <Frogzoo> neo911: dowloading copyrighted material is a crime in many countries
[02:44] <ZigZag> hi! where can I download the debs files normally fetched in synaptic? I need to burn them on a CD to take the with me, and I don't run Ubuntu on this machine, so I can't check the sources.list files
[02:45] <mwe> ZigZag: surf to a mirror
[02:45] <bungle> cant run frostwire get java errors
[02:45] <neo911> right, then if that's the case why does bittorrent still exist?
[02:45] <ZigZag> mwe: can you give me a url?
[02:45] <iaakee> hi
[02:45] <iaakee> breezy is testing ?
[02:45] <mwe> ZigZag: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[02:45] <Frogzoo> neo911: I guess because of all the people downloading legit content
[02:45] <useruser> neo911: not everything is illegal to share
[02:45] <bungle> anybody had problems with frostwire
[02:45] <neo911> i have this thing called firestarter installed does that make my comp safer?
[02:46] <MoL^compiling> hi to all
[02:46] <neo911> i mean more secure?
[02:46] <useruser> neo911: you could equally ask why http still exists...
[02:46] <Frogzoo> iaakee: breezy is current latest stable ubuntu release
[02:46] <ZigZag> mwe: thanks a lot!
[02:46] <MoL^compiling> what are the default password for root on ubuntu?
[02:46] <iaakee> wich is testing ?
[02:46] <mwe> neo911: it firewall software, so yes
[02:46] <bungle> iaakee, dapper
[02:46] <iaakee> thank you
[02:47] <funtable> MoL^compiling, dont have pass, to put that,you need to run   #sudo passwd root
[02:47] <ZigZag> mwe: another question: most of the files in a subfolder are diff.gz and .dsc and stuff... where can I get normal debs?
[02:47] <MoL^compiling> funtable: oky thx
[02:47] <mwe> ZigZag: same place
[02:47] <mwe> ZigZag: those are for the source debs
[02:48] <ZigZag> mwe: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/
[02:48] <ZigZag> mwe: I need a deb of ndiswrapper
[02:48] <haffe> Hi, I'm looking to buy a Hercules Fortissimo IV, has anyone tried that soundcard with linux?
[02:48] <mwe> ZigZag: the utils are there. the kernel modules is included in linux-image* packages
[02:48] <caglar> I use 2 monitors in ubuntu using Xinerama. How am I able to send a window from one monitor to the other?
[02:49] <ZigZag> mwe: I see. are the linux-image* packages installed by default? or do I need them too?
[02:49] <funkyHat> caglar, can't you drag it across? :S
[02:49] <mwe> ZigZag: it's installed or your system wouldnt run
[02:49] <iaakee> which is the orden in vi to change several words:...... :/word1/word2/4 ?
[02:49] <mwe> ZigZag: it's the kernel
[02:50] <caglar> funkyHat: nope, I can just move my mouse from one window to the other
[02:50] <ZigZag> mwe: lol, why didn't you just say so? =) I'm not too familiar with the whole ubuntu/debian packaging conventions, I'm a Fedora guy myself...
[02:50] <burgermann> Where do I place scripts I want executed by root at startup?
[02:50] <mwe> ZigZag: you still need the utils though
[02:50] <Frogzoo> burgermann: I'm guessin you mean /etc/rc2.d
[02:51] <iaakee> which is the VI command to change a one word for other word ?
[02:51] <ZigZag> mwe: yep. thx for your help! do you know anything else I need to bring to get ndiswrapper working?
[02:51] <iaakee> i wont get the testing
[02:51] <burgermann> Frogzoo: Maybe you guess right :P
[02:51] <mwe> ZigZag: the _correct_ windows driver. not any driver will work
[02:51] <fiveiron> is there a gconf setting I can use to change the initial brown background color when logging in to gnome?
[02:52] <burgermann> Frogzoo: is all script files there executed?
[02:52] <mwe> fiveiron: gdmsetup
[02:52] <ZigZag> mwe: right. but I have that one on the CD.
[02:52] <fiveiron> ah
[02:52] <fiveiron> thx
[02:52] <ZigZag> mwe: I seem to recall there being some gtk program to handle ndiswrapper. is that so?
[02:52] <mwe> ZigZag: is it a driver that is supposed to work with ndiswrapper?
[02:52] <ZigZag> mwe: of course =)
[02:53] <mwe> ZigZag: I had to install a different one than the one from my cd
[02:53] <Frogzoo> fiveiron: sys -> admin -> login screen -> gtk+ greeter (took months to find that)
[02:53] <neo911> how can i change the permission of my common partition to be writable? all of its folders have lock icons beside them?... thx
[02:53] <ZigZag> mwe: In case of fire, I do have internet access through my tablet. but I'd like to download as much as possiblein advance
[02:53] <neo911> my common partition is hda6
[02:54] <mwe> ZigZag: yeah. ndiswrapper has a large list of cards and recommended drivers
[02:54] <mwe> ZigZag: ndiswrapper.sf.net that is
[02:54] <frank_matrix> hallo
[02:54] <ZigZag> mwe: yes, and I've gone through the one at the ubuntu wiki, so I should be good.
[02:55] <frank_matrix> ist jemand anwesend?
[02:55] <mwe> neo911: what do you mean. your current ubuntu partiton or what?
[02:55] <Frogzoo> burgermann: anything starting with S will be started (in number order), anything starting with K will be stopped
[02:55] <bungle> cant run frostwire anybody help?
[02:55] <fiveiron> frank_matrix: sprechen sie English?
[02:56] <mwe> neo911: a lot of directories can only be written by the superuser. that's intentionally and should not be changed
[02:56] <neo911> mwe, no i have a common partition in my hdisk that is visible to both XP and ubuntu but only in ubuntu i can't write to it
[02:56] <mwe> neo911: what file system is it?
[02:56] <neo911> mwe, how do i find that out? what file system it is?
[02:56] <_jason> bungle: did you install java?
[02:57] <mwe> neo911: type mount in a terminal
[02:57] <bungle> _jason, yes using sun java
[02:57] <_jason> bungle: what happens when you try to run it in a terminal?
[02:57] <bungle> i get errors wanna see _jason ?
[02:57] <bungle> !pastebin
[02:57] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[02:57] <_jason> bungle: sure, put them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:58] <nash-18> hi
[02:58] <neo911> mwe, hda6 is vfat
[02:58] <robf> hello
[02:58] <mwe> neo911: good
[02:58] <fek> moin
[02:58] <rambo3> morning
[02:58] <odat> hi everyone
[02:58] <odat> i'm having a monitor problem
[02:58] <nash-18> when i try to run compiz send me next error:
[02:58] <nash-18> compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[02:58] <nash-18> compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0
[02:58] <nash-18> compiz.real: No managable screens found on display :1
[02:58] <neo911> mwe, i tried to change the owner of hda6 from root to my username but it wont let me
[02:58] <robf> i could use some ehlp installing mpg codecs for totem please
[02:58] <mwe> neo911: make a backup of /etc/fstab. then gksudo gedit /etc/fstab and put umask=0000 under options
[02:58] <nash-18> do you know why?
[02:58] <neo911> mwe, i did this by running nautilus as sudo
[02:58] <mwe> neo911: then remount it
[02:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell robf about multimedia
[02:59] <mwe> neo911: you can't do that
[02:59] <bungle> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10719
[02:59] <rambo3>   sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:59] <neo911> guys do you agree with mwe is this the way to go? sorry mwe i have to ask other's opinions bec i don't relaly know you :-)
[02:59] <odat> I recently switched to a flat panel monitor and xserver works and my desktop looks great  however when starting up everthing is off to the left instead of centered. I reconfigured xserver a bunch of time with no sucess. Any ideas
[02:59] <_jason> bungle: what rambo3 said was for you,make sure sun java is selected
[03:00] <mwe> neo911: of course it's the way to go
[03:00] <bungle> will do cheers
[03:00] <variant> robf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:00] <robf> ok will take a look brb
[03:00] <_sHaDe> i had yur same proble yesterday to frostwire
[03:00] <mwe> neo911: you can't do anything else unless you wanna access the drive as root
[03:00] <_sHaDe> *your
[03:00] <_sHaDe> *problem
[03:00] <_sHaDe> i have resolve the problem
[03:01] <variant> does anyone know how to change the mount options for usb drivers
[03:01] <variant> drives *
[03:01] <bungle> ok sun java selected _jason
[03:01] <bungle> getting same error
[03:01] <variant> i want to mount a usb stick with "sync" option to protect against mounted removal
[03:01] <_jason> _sHaDe: how? :)
[03:01] <mwe> variant: /etc/fstab
[03:01] <nickrud> neo911, mwe's quality of answers is probably in the top 10% of helpers here
[03:01] <odat> rambo3, not many people know about that i was shocked
[03:01] <variant> mwe: does that work even with the automounting stuff?
[03:01] <fiveiron> ok i'm creating a symbolic link to a file that is 644, but no matter what I do, the perms on the symlink are 777 ... what gives?
[03:01] <_sHaDe> wait
[03:01] <odat>  I recently switched to a flat panel monitor and xserver works and my desktop looks great  however when starting up everthing is off to the left instead of centered. I reconfigured xserver a bunch of time with no sucess. Any ideas
[03:02] <neo911> mwe, i put umask=0000 under options for hda6?
[03:02] <mwe> variant: if it's mounted via fstab, yes
[03:02] <kingspwned> variant, or with option -o sync, i think.
[03:02] <mwe> neo911: yes
[03:02] <neo911> ok, thanks mwe nickrud
[03:02] <rambo3> odat i didn t say anything anyway your xorg is missconfigured ,
[03:02] <mwe> neo911: it probably has defaults or something. change that to defaults,umask=0000
[03:03] <odat> rambo3, i was talking about the java selection
[03:03] <rambo3> ok
[03:03] <variant> mwe: no idea, i just put the stick in and it automounts
[03:03] <neo911> mwe, how do i remount?
[03:03] <_sHaDe> _jason, look my query
[03:03] <odat> rambo3, i don't believe its xorg because the screen is off centered before xorg kicks in    xorg actually centers it when it does kick in
[03:03] <_jason> _sHaDe: thanks
[03:03] <_sHaDe> :)
[03:04] <_jason> bungle: _sHaDe fixed his problem following http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=d70d7601ff2b57c2ae4afafc9201164a&threadid=53381
[03:04] <mwe> variant: I'm not sure
[03:04] <bungle> will try that cheers
[03:04] <odat> frostwire is badass
[03:04] <rambo3> yeah m i had that problem with fedora. its their tradition to shift screen 2  inches to the right
[03:04] <caglar> does anyone know how to move one window from one monitor to another (I am using Xinerama, Xorg 7, Dual head)
[03:05] <neo911> hi guys how do i remount a partition? thx
[03:05] <kingspwned> variant, do you have it in fstab?
[03:05] <odat> rambo3, i think it is a setting in my nvidia card  when i go to nvidia settings its still say i have a crt not a flat panel
[03:05] <odat> rambo3,  i don't know how to change it
[03:05] <rambo3> i got anwerd that its wrong frekvency or something driver, monitor foult that it s ooutputing signals wrong
[03:06] <mwe> neo911: sudo mount -o remount /mount/point
[03:06] <neo911> mwe, point should be hda6 literally?
[03:06] <rambo3> and that if i have button ajust automaticly on my monitor it will fix it self
[03:06] <_jason> bungle: he used jojoman02's post by the way
[03:07] <bungle> ok thanks _jason
[03:08] <mwe> neo911: Where is it mounted?
[03:08] <neo911> hda6
[03:08] <neo911> mwe,
[03:08] <mwe> neo911: no
[03:08] <bungle> cheers _jason that worked a treat
[03:08] <mwe> neo911: type mount and tell me the mount point
[03:09] <neo911> mwe, /media/hda6?
[03:09] <veldorzvizzerd> hey y'all, anyone know much about wengophone?
[03:09] <rambo3> if its in /media the you can use only  hda6 anyway
[03:09] <johannesen> does anyone of you have a working setup with wpasupplicant and a PowerBook? cafuego?
[03:09] <johannesen> I have tried, but alas
[03:09] <Blippe> veldorzvizzerd, yeah, you want to install or do you have problems?
[03:09] <veldorzvizzerd> yeah, I've installed it, but it doesn't run
[03:10] <neo911> mwe, cool, i've reloaded my nautilus and it's changed all permissions to writable except for the root... thanks heaps
[03:10] <veldorzvizzerd> it appears in applications > internet
[03:10] <veldorzvizzerd> but when I click on it, nothing loads
[03:10] <veldorzvizzerd> any ideas, blippe?
[03:11] <soundray> veldorzvizzerd: maybe it logs an error to ~/.xsession-errors
[03:11] <neo911> mwe, i just want to know what i did exactly, so what did umask=0000 exactly do? thx
[03:11] <veldorzvizzerd> will check, brb.. thanks soundray
[03:11] <kilgost> #join ubuntu-fr
[03:12] <arrinmurr> veldorzvizzerd: try to start it from a terminal window and see what it says. i'd guess you're missing some qt stuff
[03:12] <veldorzvizzerd> how do I start it from the terminal?
[03:13] <arrinmurr> veldorzvizzerd: try alt+f2 -> gnome-terminal and type openwengo or wengophone or whatever it is there
[03:13] <veldorzvizzerd> ok
[03:13] <mwe> neo911: changed the mount options. read man mount please
[03:14] <neo911> mwe oh ok thx!
[03:14] <veldorzvizzerd> it says error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[03:15] <_jason> veldorzvizzerd: sudo aptitude install libstdc++5
[03:15] <veldorzvizzerd> cheers _jason
[03:15] <soundray> _jason: that's a base package, isn't it?
[03:16] <_jason> soundray: I don't think so.  Only because on the ff1.5 page it notes that you need to install it
[03:16] <veldorzvizzerd> yep, its working now, thanks again jason, soundray
[03:17] <soundray> Section: base...
[03:19] <_jason> soundray: you are right... strange
[03:20] <siesel> hi, I have some problems with my hard disk. When I access a specific file I always get an input/output error.
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> siesel,  check dmesg output yet? see if any messages are showing up.
[03:21] <ArIeZ> hello
[03:21] <Frogzoo> siesel: that very bad - check /var/log/messages for other errors, the disk's probably going bad
[03:21] <ArIeZ> i'm trying to install a deb file can anyone help
[03:22] <_jason> !deb
[03:22] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:22] <root_> hello everybody!
[03:22] <root_> im not root but shukhrat! :)
[03:22] <AnsiC> hello
[03:22] <AnsiC> ubuntu use SHADOW for default ???
[03:22] <siesel> Frogzoo:  is there any way to save the disk, f.e. make a bad block scan?
[03:22] <AnsiC> i mean about the passwords
[03:23] <odat>  I recently switched to a flat panel monitor and xserver works and my desktop looks great  however when starting up everthing is off to the left instead of centered. I reconfigured xserver a bunch of time with no sucess. Any ideas
[03:23] <Frogzoo> siesel: is this ide?
[03:23] <soundray> root_: hey, you can't log in here and pose as good old shukhrat ;)
[03:23] <root_> i wanna install slmodem but when i wanna gzip it, terminal says no such a file or directory, please, help
[03:23] <AnsiC> user@hostname:~$ su
[03:23] <AnsiC> Password:
[03:23] <AnsiC> setgid: Operation not permitted
[03:23] <AnsiC> user@hostname:~$
[03:23] <Healot> YES, AnsiC
[03:23] <root_> thanks, soundray!
[03:23] <AnsiC> user@hostname:~$ sudo su
[03:23] <AnsiC> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0
[03:23] <AnsiC> user@hostname:~$
[03:24] <Frogzoo> AnsiC: please don't paste in chan, thx
[03:24] <AnsiC> i runned some chown user:user *
[03:24] <soundray> odat, does your monitor have an autoconfig feature?
[03:24] <Healot> AnsiC, by default Mark disabled the use of "su" :)
[03:24] <apokryphos> AnsiC: you really shouldn't muck around with sudoers, you can get a lot of problems. Also, you shouldn't do sudo su -- use sudo -i to get into a root shell.
[03:24] <fontp> I'm having a wierd problem with gnomebaker, when i try to make an audio CD ti tells me that "The plugin to handle a file of type MP3 audio is not installed."
[03:24] <Healot> AnsiC, use sudo with every command that requires superuser access...
[03:24] <_jason> Frogzoo: did the dos2unix conversion of /usr/bin/frostwire work for you to fix frostwire?  I just tried it and had to do it to /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh
[03:25] <AnsiC> sudo -i ???
[03:25] <odat> soundray, i think it has something to do with nvidia settings because nvidia still thinks its a crt
[03:25] <AnsiC> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0
[03:25] <AnsiC> that is sudo -i
[03:25] <siesel> Frogzoo:  no its usb2.0 external ide
[03:25] <root_> i wanna install slmodem but when i wanna gzip it, terminal says no such a file or directory, please, help
[03:25] <Healot> fontp, not weird, you missed some gstreamer plugins there
[03:25] <kingspwned> AnsiC, then it is best to make it owned by root again, eh?
[03:26] <soundray> odat, that shouldn't matter.
[03:26] <AnsiC> ghggh
[03:26] <rambo3> did you chmod 777 /*/*  buy any chance AnsciC?
[03:26] <apokryphos> AnsiC: yes, because you mucked up sudoers. Does using sudo/su not work at all?
[03:26] <AnsiC> user@hostname:~$ sudo su
[03:26] <AnsiC> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0
[03:26] <apokryphos> rambo3: recursive chmods in anywhere but /home is quite dangerous.
[03:26] <AnsiC> i used chow user:user *
[03:26] <fontp> healot : which dstreamer package should I install ?
[03:26] <AnsiC> in some directory
[03:26] <odat> soundray, well nothing is off center once i get to the desktop only when booting and shutting down
[03:26] <kingspwned> AnsiC, chown and chgrp, since you own the file anyway
[03:26] <root_> by slmodem i mean driver for slmodem, have a pctel made modem HSP56 MR, and ubuntu doesn't recognize it
[03:26] <AnsiC> what imust do ?
[03:26] <rambo3> apokryphos thats what i am asking him
[03:26] <root_> by slmodem i mean driver for slmodem, have a pctel made modem HSP56 MR, and ubuntu doesn't recognize it (in live cd)
[03:26] <oxez> Do we need X11R7 to run XGL on 5.10 (KDE)? If yes, is X11R7 available in the repos? (backports, or a private one)
[03:26] <Healot> AnsiC, try other sommand...
[03:27] <kingspwned> AnsiC, you must "man chown" and "man chgrp" - then apply newfound knowledge
[03:27] <apokryphos> rambo3: sorry, I meant AnsiC *
[03:27] <odat> soundray, in other words once xorg kicks in  its cool
[03:27] <Healot> !gstreamer
[03:27] <ubotu> Healot: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:27] <apokryphos> fontp: gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:27] <soundray> odat, I see. I have a machine like that -- I just ignore it. But I noticed that when I boot certain live CDs, the problem does not appear.
[03:27] <root_> Healot: i wanna install slmodem but when i wanna gzip it, terminal says no such a file or directory, please, help
[03:27] <AnsiC> i do not understand
[03:27] <soundray> odat: the upshot is:
[03:27] <kingspwned> AnsiC, and your system is basically just crazed now if your user owns every file on it
[03:27] <AnsiC> i thing that  i reinstall all
[03:27] <kingspwned> AnsiC, i thing that too
[03:28] <rambo3> you do that
[03:28] <soundray> odat: you can probably play with "vga=" kernel options to fix it.
[03:28] <apokryphos> :/
[03:28] <AnsiC> uffff
[03:28] <apokryphos> you shouldn't ever really need to reinstall
[03:28] <kingspwned> AnsiC, and next time, dont do this again
[03:28] <patrick5222> hello how do i delete my windows os without effecting ubuntu os
[03:28] <apokryphos> AnsiC: you can't execute any sudo command?
[03:28] <Healot> root_, gzipping what? source code? prebuilt module?
[03:28] <thinkloop> i just setup exim4 and ran exim4-config, and i guesss its runnning.. however, i install mutt on my box and at at the bottom of mutt it says "/var/mail/user is not a mailbox"
[03:28] <root_> tar.gz
[03:28] <apokryphos> patrick5222: just delete the partition and partition it as something else. THe bootloader is on the MBR and ubuntu controls it, not Windoze.
[03:28] <thinkloop> so anyone know where the mailbox are created?
[03:28] <root_> Healot, im shukhrat :)
[03:28] <Frogzoo> siesel: ide automatically relocates bad blocks to a set of spare blocks it keeps set aside - once you start seeing disk failures, it's because the spare blocks have been exhausted - I'd say that disk is on the way out fast
[03:28] <AnsiC> user@hostname:~$ sudo chown
[03:28] <AnsiC> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0
[03:29] <Healot> patrick5222, you installed grub on your mbr?
[03:29] <Frogzoo> _jason: thx for pointing that out - I'll fix the info in the bot
[03:29] <soundray> thinkloop: does /var/mail/user exist at all?
[03:29] <AnsiC> sudo su  grrgrrrgrg
[03:29] <Healot> then just delete your windows partition from ubuntu is fairly safe
[03:29] <odat> soundray, i don't think its anything to do with linux or the kernel, because it doesn't it right off the bat before anything is loaded
[03:29] <apokryphos> AnsiC: reboot and at the grub prompt select "e" to edit boot commands
[03:29] <_jason> Frogzoo: cool
[03:29] <thinkloop> yeah /var/mail/ has 2 folders in it
[03:29] <AnsiC> i can reboot using ubuntu CD
[03:29] <apokryphos> AnsiC: go to the line that says kernel blah etc etc (the long one) and edit the line and add init=/bin/bash to the end.
[03:29] <kingspwned> AnsiC, dont sudo chown you dont need to you already own the file
[03:29] <patrick5222> yeh i did install it on my masterbootrecord, but how do i deletet it
[03:30] <thinkloop> actually in /var/mail it has one folder and one text file
[03:30] <apokryphos> AnsiC: then boot that command set and it should bring you straight to a root shell
[03:30] <Squee> Hello
[03:30] <AnsiC> ?????
[03:30] <AnsiC> uff
[03:30] <kingspwned> apokryphos, he has chown'ed every file on his system to his user..
[03:30] <AnsiC> some procedure please?
[03:30] <Healot> use fdisk or gparted (which is safer), patrick5222
[03:30] <AnsiC> i'm italian
[03:30] <apokryphos> kingrayray: hm, far more problematic.
[03:30] <soundray> odat: advice is still the same: 1) Check out autoconfig on your monitor; 2) Try vga kernel options - your monitor obviously takes to certain resolutions better than to others.
[03:30] <kingspwned> apokryphos, it will take him a life to fix it, i do honestly believe that a reinstall will do him good
[03:30] <rambo3> i think its the same just a frontend for fdisk
[03:31] <Healot> deleting windows ntfs/fat32 partittion doesn't effect mbr, unless you move/resize your linux partition...
[03:31] <patrick5222> int there a programm that starts with QT***** dont knwo the name does anyone
[03:31] <apokryphos> kingspawn: might just be easier, yes.
[03:31] <thinkloop> actually in mutt, how do you change the directory where it looks for the mailbox?
[03:31] <Healot> qtparted/gparted the same program, using different toolkit
[03:31] <soundray> thinkloop: does /var/mail/user exist, and is it a file or directory?
[03:31] <kingspwned> apokryphos, especially since his knowledge is very limited, it seems
[03:31] <apokryphos> patrick5222: gparted is slightly nicer put together, though.
[03:31] <_jason> kingspwned, apokryphos: are there any files not in home that are owned by a user other than root?  can't he just make every file root owned then undo it in /home?
[03:31] <root_> soundray: i wanna install slmodem but when i wanna gzip it, terminal says no such a file or directory, please, help
[03:31] <thinkloop> soundray: it's a folder for me, but there's another user account and his is a text file
[03:31] <kingspwned> AnsiC, i think you should try to back up what you need, and do a reinstall
[03:32] <patrick5222> how do i get gparted
[03:32] <soundray> thinkloop, I suggest you fix your system, rather than work around it through mutt config.
[03:32] <apokryphos> _jason: /tmp and a few other locations have non-root owned files, too.
[03:32] <kingspwned> _jason, he probably can, but i can't get through to him
[03:32] <AnsiC> yes and 2 houer for save my things
[03:32] <thinkloop> soundray: well i looked into the text file of the user other, its all email stuff
[03:32] <rambo3> root_ even with sudo ?
[03:32] <Healot> root_, where you put the file in the first place?
[03:32] <root_> yes
[03:33] <rambo3> ls -l list the file ?
[03:33] <root_> usr/local/src
[03:33] <Healot> :?
[03:33] <patrick5222> apokryphos: how do i get gparted
[03:33] <veldorzvizzerd> hello again, I just got a wengophone account but its keeps saying 'incorrect login or password' and the program shows 'wengophone is not properly configured', something to do with not being authenticated on the network or something - any ideas as to what I can do about this?
[03:33] <Healot> are you sure, it is there, root_ ?
[03:33] <apokryphos> patrick5222: fire up synaptic -> select+install gparted from there
[03:33] <root_> yes, i copied it there
[03:34] <Healot> patrick5222, buy it from Mark, nay, just apt-get install gparted or use synaptic to install
[03:34] <MrCollins> uhm
[03:34] <rambo3> not in /usr/src ?
[03:34] <MrCollins> I would change your name from root
[03:34] <Healot> so, "ls" it root_
[03:34] <Healot> or cd there
[03:34] <root_> Healot, what is it?
[03:34] <soundray> thinkloop: there are two common ways of storing mail: in so-called mbox files, or in so-called mh directories.
[03:34] <root_> ls?
[03:34] <rambo3> type ls in terminal
[03:34] <soundray> thinkloop, you need to set up your system for either one or the other.
[03:35] <Healot> root_, you're total blank eh? nvm
[03:35] <thinkloop> soundray: any documentation on that?
[03:35] <Healot> root_, do you remember the filename, at least?
[03:35] <soundray> thinkloop, if you are a mutt user, I suggest you stick with the mbox format
[03:35] <root_> Healot, you're right, I am dummy :)
[03:35] <soundray> thinkloop, yes, stfw ;)
[03:35] <veldorzvizzerd> _jason ? you there mate?
[03:35] <gabbah> i'm using the event tester to find out what buttons i have on my mouse. The weird thing is my side buttons have the same number as other buttons :/   So when I map them to actions the other buttons break :(
[03:35] <root_> there are alot of books about me, remember "dummies series? :)
[03:36] <_jason> veldorzvizzerd: yep, but I've never user wengophone
[03:36] <veldorzvizzerd> ah, i c
[03:36] <Healot> if you DO remember... just run "updatedb && locate <the filename if you remember it>"
[03:36] <root_> Healot, yes it is slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz
[03:36] <thinkloop> soundray: i did it for my cousins email, that big text file and its working... so i have to get that text file for myself
[03:36] <veldorzvizzerd> any other voip program you may know of that is compatible with both windows and linux?
[03:36] <Healot> root_, never actually read that series... just peeked
[03:36] <soundray> thinkloop, while you don't know what that /var/mail/user directory is about, you could do a 'sudo cp -a /var/mail/user /var/mail/user-backup', then do a 'sudo touch /var/mail/user ; sudo chmod user.user /var/mail/user'
[03:37] <Healot> root_, do it the hard way then "sudo updatedb && locate slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz
[03:37] <Healot> "
[03:37] <soundray> thinkloop: mutt will turn the resulting empty /var/mail/user file into an mbox mail folder.
[03:37] <Healot> then you'll find that file eventually
[03:37] <AnsiC> wow
[03:37] <AnsiC> i'm on root
[03:37] <veldorzvizzerd> dw, its k, thanks tho for your help _jason, one last thing, if I wanted to uninstall a program from the terminal, what command would I use?
[03:37] <AnsiC> but i do ctrl+f2
[03:37] <AnsiC> login: root
[03:37] <AnsiC> pass: .....
[03:37] <_jason> veldorzvizzerd: sudo aptitude remove <package name>
[03:37] <AnsiC> and now i'm under root
[03:38] <veldorzvizzerd> thanks
[03:38] <root_> yes it found it in three places
[03:38] <soundray> veldorzvizzerd: ekiga works on standard protocols, ie. you can converse with Netmeeting users
[03:38] <root_> should i delete the other copies?
[03:38] <Healot> three placeS? amazing, root_ :)
[03:38] <veldorzvizzerd> thanks soundray, will try that one :)
[03:38] <soundray> veldorzvizzerd: skype is available for both, but it's proprietary.
[03:38] <Healot> up to you... i usually keep backups
[03:38] <veldorzvizzerd> yea, I'm not much of a fan of skype :p
[03:38] <rambo3> you need sudo after &&
[03:39] <root_> rambo3 what do u mean?
[03:39] <root_> should i write sudo?
[03:39] <ic56> thinkloop: sounds like soundray meant to say `mv' rather than `cp -a'
[03:39] <root_> after it located the file?
[03:39] <rambo3> no
[03:39] <rambo3> never mind
[03:39] <root_> i am already root
[03:39] <Healot> locate doesn't need superuser privileges though
[03:39] <Kezzer> Finally got everything working in Ubuntu
[03:39] <soundray> ic56: thanks, you're right
[03:39] <Healot> hehe, root_ :)
[03:40] <Kezzer> using 64-bit edition and managed to get 32-bit firefox and flash working under it =D
[03:40] <rambo3> it should be sudo updatedb && sudo locate  slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz
[03:40] <soundray> Kezzer: well done. chroot?
[03:40] <Healot> Kezzer, there is a FAQ/wikiwikiwiki for that :)
[03:40] <Healot> using linux32 is way easier than chrooting
[03:40] <Kezzer> Yup, just used linux32
[03:40] <Kezzer> You fool it into thinking you're using 32-bit
[03:41] <Kezzer> Takes a couple of scripts etc. but chroot is to be avoided apparently
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> !linux32
[03:41] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> :(
[03:41] <soundray> Kezzer: well, chroot is clean, but it's like maintaining a second system...
[03:41] <AnsiC> user@hostname:~$ sudo bash
[03:41] <AnsiC> Password:
[03:41] <AnsiC> root@hostname:~#
[03:42] <Healot> Kezzer, not really fooling the app, it does chrooting in the background... and it does fool the app :)
[03:42] <AnsiC> root@hostname:~# chown root:root /etc/sudoers
[03:42] <_martin> Hi - I'm trying to install the freenx client from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/  as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX but the server seems to be down. Are there other servers I can use for Breezy?
[03:42] <Kezzer> How do you permanently unmount drives?  It's just I'm being shown my NTFS drives which I don't want, I know it's sudo umount /dev/sdaX but everytime I restart the system they reappear again o_O
[03:42] <Healot> AnsiC, you need the maintain ANSI standard
[03:42] <soundray> AnsiC: can you please stop pasting here.
[03:43] <Healot> yeah, please....
[03:43] <root_> it still says no such a file or directory?
[03:43] <Frogzoo> Kezzer: as long as this isn't USB, remove the file sytem from /etc/fstab will do it
[03:44] <root_> im in ubuntu, does it matter?
[03:44] <Healot> Kezzer, to permanently unmount partition, you should never mount it in the first place
[03:44] <Kezzer> Healot, I never did mount it o_O
[03:44] <Healot> move the option "auto" from your fstab file
[03:44] <AnsiC> ok
[03:44] <AnsiC> by
[03:44] <Healot> changeit to "noauto", then the automounter will never mount it on startup
[03:45] <Kezzer> sudo nano /etc/fstab then?
[03:45] <root_> Healot, can we install software from tar.gz tarballs?
[03:45] <soundray> !install
[03:45] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[03:45] <Healot> root_, yes, if the file actually contains source code and makefiles
[03:46] <Lorvija> hey.. I installed ubuntu as dual boot and ubuntu automatically mounts my other disk but i have no rights to access the disk... how to get those rights?
[03:46] <Healot> just unb/gzip the file to your desired/default destination, cd to that directory, and make, and wait for errors to come
[03:46] <Healot> sure, Kezzer
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  let me guess.. NTFS partition?
[03:47] <Lorvija> Dr_Willis, aye
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[03:47] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[03:47] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[03:47] <variant> can anyone help with this error when compiling a kernel module please:
[03:47] <variant> /bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: No such file or directory
[03:47] <Lorvija> Dr_Willis, it's already mounted.. just cant access it (:
[03:47] <variant> its module not included int he stock kernel
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  you have to alter the mount entry
[03:48] <Lorvija> Dr_Willis,  okay, I'll check it. thanks
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija, its mounted by root. not a user.
[03:48] <root_> ubotu: how install tar.gz
[03:48] <ubotu> root_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:48] <_martin>  no problem, found freenx mirrors - http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/
[03:48] <soundray> variant, you should install modutils
[03:48] <root_> how install tar.gz
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> root_: What are you trying to install?
[03:49] <soundray> !tell root about install
[03:49] <Healot> root_, did you read the documentation on the site/links that you download that file from
[03:49] <soundray> !tell root_ about install
[03:49] <Healot> reading is really essential in compiling, i might say
[03:50] <Healot> especially for first time effort
[03:50] <root_> tonyyarusso: my ubuntu doesn't recognize HSP56 MR pctel modem, so i wanna install slmodem (smart link) to solve this problem
[03:50] <root_> Healot, yes, i read but the first step is #gzip and i failed in this step
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> root_: There should be plenty of documentation with that package for you to read, in addition to the wiki links soundray sent you.  Look for something called README or INSTALL in the tarball.
[03:51] <Healot> ~_~?
[03:51] <soundray> root_, try "tar zxvf slmodem....tar.gz"
[03:51] <Healot> root_, do you know how to uncompress compressed tarballs?
[03:51] <Healot> there you go...
[03:52] <root_> Healot, as u witnessed, i do it according to instructions :)
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> If I zip/compress something .tar.gz or .tar.bz2, can my Windows-using friends unzip those, or do I need to use .zip for them?
[03:52] <root_> like dummy!
[03:52] <variant> soundray: same error
[03:53] <soundray> tonyyarusso: yes, if they have Winzip or Filzip.
[03:53] <Healot> root_, it's good to be a dummy, with learning desire... keep it up, man
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Okay.  Everybody should have Winzip, so sounds good.
[03:53] <Healot> root_, you can use file-roller (gnome) or ark (in KDE)
[03:53] <root_> soundray, it says no such file or directory
[03:54] <root_> thanks, Healot
[03:54] <Healot> root_, where are you now, type "pwd" to find out... please... and please don't whine on your mistake :)
[03:54] <root_> what is it, file-roler
[03:54] <soundray> tonyyarusso: everybody should have Filzip. Winzip is proprietary :)
[03:54] <Healot> uhuh ~_~?
[03:54] <Healot> 7zip smells better than winzip
[03:55] <root_> it says i am root (i already knew it)
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> soundray: 'k, s/should/most likely can be expected to/
[03:55] <soundray> variant, what are you trying to do?
[03:56] <soundray> tonyyarusso: oh, I like those subtleties in the English language :)
[03:56] <variant> soundray: compile rt2x00
[03:56] <variant> soundray: for my belkin usb wireless nic
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Of course.  Because we never really planned on using language to really communicate what we really mean, right?
[03:56] <soundray> variant, are you on hoary?
[03:56] <Healot> rt2500, variant ?
[03:56] <variant> Healot: rt2570
[03:57] <variant> soundray: dapper
[03:57] <variant> flight 5
[03:57] <Healot> i think there is a binary/precompiled driver for that...
[03:57] <variant> yeah?
[03:57] <Healot> 25XX driver is in the dapper/breezy repos
[03:57] <soundray> variant, I've got that device. It should work out of the box.
[03:57] <variant> soundray: belkin wireless g usb?
[03:57] <soundray> variant, do you see it with lsusb when you plug it in?
[03:58] <variant> soundray: all except the usb work out of the box
[03:58] <variant> lemmy cehck
[03:58] <variant> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 050d:705a Belkin Components
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> How does Ubuntu deal with it if you install new hardware on a system?  I remember Windows' little popup of "New hardware detected...finding drivers...", is it something along those lines, or do you have to do it manually, or what?
[03:59] <root_> Healot, where should i put the source file so that the system may find it to install?
[03:59] <soundray> variant, I have a F5D7050. When I plug it in, it shows up as rausb0.
[04:00] <Healot> root_, first answer me, do you even know where is the tarball location/full path?
[04:00] <variant> soundray: ist hat belkin?
[04:00] <soundray> variant, yes, I wasn't lying.
[04:00] <root_> yes, it is in /usr/local/src, Healot
[04:00] <variant> lol
[04:00] <yohan> anyone have a good guide to compiling a kernel downloaded from kernel.org?
[04:00] <variant> soundray: not here
[04:00] <Healot> to make sure, please type the full path for me, root_, will you?
[04:01] <soundray> !kernelcompile
[04:01] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[04:01] <fontp> yohan : http://www.freeos.com/articles/2589/
[04:01] <root_> Healot, sure
[04:01] <fontp> oh, even better
[04:01] <Healot> yohan, install "kernel-package"
[04:01] <fontp> bots win
[04:01] <variant> soundray: i was under the impression that the usb versions of the rt driver would not work out of the box
[04:01] <root_> Healot: /usr/local/src/slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz
[04:01] <soundray> variant, that just goes to show that impressions can be unreliable :)
[04:02] <soundray> variant, so, do you get a rausb0 device when you plug it in?
[04:02] <variant> no
[04:02] <Healot> downlaod the kernel/unpack, install the required devel libraries, run "sudo make-kpkg" on the top directoy of the unpacked source
[04:02] <variant> iwconfig shows no wireless extensions
[04:02] <variant> sit/eth/lo
[04:02] <Healot> root_, now, here is what I will do, "cd /usr/local/src/"
[04:02] <yohan> thnx
[04:02] <soundray> variant, try gnome network settings, or ifconfig -a
[04:03] <variant> soundray: the fact is that the module has not been loaded for it because the belkin usb stick that uses rt2570 or rt2x00 is not supported out of the box
[04:03] <variant> soundray: only pcmcia and pci versions are
[04:04] <GNU_Style> whats the difference between kernel-headers and kernel-source?
[04:04] <GNU_Style> are they the same?
[04:04] <soundray> variant, that is just plain incorrect, as I've just checked.
[04:04] <soundray> variant: all I need to do is to plug my device in, and it shows up.
[04:04] <DJAdmiral> how do i check md5sums of a particular file?
[04:04] <Healot> one is the essential header for compilation, and the other is the actual source of your kernel
[04:04] <soundray> variant: complies with my definition of "out of the box"
[04:04] <Kezzer> Is it not possible to play mp3s in linux based audio applications?
[04:04] <Healot> md5sum <filename>, DJAdmiral
[04:05] <soundray> Kezzer, yes it is.
[04:05] <Kezzer> It's just I was using rhythmbox and it couldn't load any of my files
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> thanks
[04:05] <Healot> sha1sum for SHA-1 checksum
[04:05] <soundray> Kezzer: you just have to jump through hoops because of the idiots at Fraunhofer.
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> thanks Healot
[04:05] <soundray> !tell Kezzer about restricted
[04:05] <Healot> Kezzer, it is possible, with the right application, right plugins
[04:06] <drudge> hi
[04:06] <variant> soundray: do you have the belkin usb stick?
[04:06] <soundray> variant, so how about if you stop doubting me, so we can focus on solving your problem?
[04:06] <Healot> you'll love the winamp-like audio player "xmms", Kezzer
[04:06] <drudge> no don't use xmms, use beep media player
[04:06] <variant> soundray: I have read in the documentation that it is not supported out of the box
[04:06] <Kezzer> Hmm
[04:06] <soundray> variant, I'm gradually getting fed up with you. I've told you that three times now.
[04:06] <Kezzer> I need something with good library support
[04:07] <Kezzer> as I play all of my music from library
[04:07] <drudge> i installed dapper flight 5 last night and tried installing xgl following the howto but when i run compiz --replace and the gnome-window-decorator i get no window decorations
[04:07] <root_> Healot, i was able to unzip it, the instruction says "to correct path to kernel source" KERNEL_DIR=/path/to/linux what does it mean?
[04:07] <Healot> for KDE multimedia, you should be able to play audio/video if you install of the KDE multimedia runtime/plugins
[04:08] <Healot> root_, you need to install "kernel-source, kernel-headers" packages that suits your current kernel version :)
[04:08] <variant> soundray: fine
[04:08] <Healot> and the related development libraries...
[04:09] <root_> Healot, can u show easier way? :)
[04:09] <Healot> it is not easy even for me... :)
[04:09] <Kezzer> Well the wiki page telling me what to do to get mp3s to work doesn't work
[04:09] <Kezzer> the package may be obsolete
[04:09] <root_> Healot, how to find out the kernel version?
[04:10] <Healot> uname -r
[04:10] <soundray> variant, so what do you want to do? Do you want to graciously accept my offer to help, or do you want to continue telling me that I can't be right?
[04:10] <Healot> root_, check out "linux essential" first :)
[04:10] <root_> Healot, i am not THAT dummy! :)
[04:11] <Healot> really...?
[04:11] <root_> :) joke!
[04:11] <sYndax> uhm... once ive dled firefox... how do i instal it plz?
[04:11] <anstei> i found out i can change my current keybord layout with "setxkbmap -layout [layout] ", is there a similar tool to get the currently active layout?
[04:11] <Healot> I don't say linux is easy in general... but ubuntu does simplified the essentials though
[04:11] <sYndax> cuz the firefox with this compilation as default is so slow...
[04:12] <soundray> !tell sYndax about ff1.5
[04:12] <root_> Healot, what do think can I install this slmodem or should i quit my efforts?
[04:12] <Healot> quit, for a while...
[04:12] <st3v3dnd> What's the preferred method of doing QoS in Linux? I've read some stuff about using iptables, or iproute2, but nothing telling which is the best, or most accepted.
[04:12] <sYndax> soundray: thanks but i removed firefox from the compilation and now cannot surft...
[04:12] <sYndax> until a new one is installed...
[04:12] <Healot> root_, check out the alternative at http://linmodems.org
[04:12] <root_> But my dummy side says: don't give up! Healot
[04:13] <soundray> sYndax: install epiphany temporarily, then.
[04:13] <sYndax> from the dvd?
[04:14] <dude_dan> hi everybody
[04:14] <soundray> sYndax: either that, or from the web. Try 'sudo apt-get install epiphany'
[04:14] <sYndax> uhm... where do i write this? i cannot see a prompt...
[04:14] <sYndax> i a long time user of win... but very new to linux...
[04:14] <sYndax> though i did try slakware 10 once...
[04:14] <soundray> sYndax: Alt-F2, enter gnome-terminal, then run the command above.
[04:15] <sYndax> sorry mandrake...
[04:15] <sYndax> ok trying, thanks :)
[04:15] <soundray> sYndax: alternatively, use synaptic to install the package.
[04:15] <sYndax> btw a generic question...
[04:15] <sYndax> i got an amd64 proceer athlon64... shoulde i install the amd64? or regulat i686?
[04:15] <sYndax> running on livecd now...
[04:16] <soundray> sYndax: amd64 is advantageous if you run cpu+memory intensive applications. For a typical desktop, i386 is preferable.
[04:16] <Healot> hey btw... for PCtel winmodems, checkout this page >> http://132.68.73.235/linmodems/pctel-linux/welcome.html root_
[04:17] <sYndax> i need for playing vidz, dvd burning and usenet dls... nuttin more... i got 1gb of ram...
[04:17] <sYndax> its along side with xp..
[04:17] <Kezzer> Anyone know how to get mp3s working? the wiki's guide doesn't work
[04:17] <sYndax> only thing that eats up cpu is the quickpar application...
[04:17] <sYndax> while recovering...
[04:17] <_jason> Kezzer: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:18] <soundray> sYndax: what's quickpar?
[04:18] <Kezzer> _jason, 5.10
[04:18] <sYndax> that an XP application that recovers broken archives dled from usenet with .PAR or .PAR2 files...
[04:18] <GNU_Style> playing DVD in ubuntu is CHoppy why?
[04:18] <_jason> Kezzer: you have gstreamer0.8-mad and totem still does not play mp3's?
[04:18] <ic56> sYntax: stick to i386 kernel.  It's more efficient in memory use and you don't seem to need the 64-bit features, seeing as you have little memory in your box.
[04:19] <Kezzer> _jason, it can't find gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:19] <sYndax> 1gb...
[04:19] <Kezzer> check with apt-get
[04:19] <_jason> Kezzer: you have to enable universe
[04:19] <sYndax> ic, so the i686 regular then...
[04:19] <Kezzer> it thinks it's been deprecated I think
[04:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell Kezzer about universe
[04:19] <Kezzer> oh?
[04:19] <ic56> sYndax: yes
[04:20] <sYndax> ic56: thanks :) soundray: thanks also :)
[04:21] <soundray> sYndax: no problem. Good luck getting it installed.
[04:21] <sYndax> i try, i typed that cmd in the terminal windows and i see no response... perhaps i need to find the "shell" prompt...
[04:21] <GNU_Style> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/
[04:21] <Healot> sYndax, in gnome/kde terminal :)?
[04:22] <bigfoot1> how do i find out the pentium speed of my pc?
[04:22] <sYndax> ok i found it...
[04:22] <Healot> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:22] <sYndax> healot: well... uhm... yes...?
[04:22] <soundray> bigfoot1: do you mean the PR rating on Athlon CPUs?
[04:23] <noone> Hello
[04:23] <jmp_me> bigfoot1: cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep MHz
[04:23] <eFfeM> hi, is there anyone who can help me getting my date/time straight?
[04:23] <bigfoot1> soundray: i meant what jmp_me gave. Thanks both!
[04:23] <eFfeM> i have a dual boot system (dapper drake & xp) and when the time is correct on the one, it is off by an hr on the other
[04:23] <eFfeM> andi in both cases the timezone is set correct
[04:24] <beerockxs> eFfeM, that's because Linux uses UTC as system time.
[04:24] <soundray> bigfoot1: leave out the grep to learn even more about your cpu :)
[04:24] <Healot> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[04:24] <bigfoot1> soundray: yes. i did so.
[04:24] <sYndax> generic question, i got alot of "unknowns" in device manager... is it ok? and also how do i change the color depth/refresh rate (i only got 60hz there)...
[04:24] <eFfeM> beerockxs: feared that, is there a good workaround? (apart from the one I like most but cannot do: rm -rf XP )
[04:24] <bigfoot1> soundray: i learned i need a better computer
[04:25] <beerockxs> eFfeM, you can choose during installation of ubuntu wether to use local time or UTC for your system time, but i don't know how to change that after installation.
[04:25] <bigfoot1> for people who don't want to waste money with Windows OS, we should just buy the parts  seperately, eh? (Like shopping at newegg.com)
[04:25] <eFfeM> oh, missed that one probably (don't recall it)
[04:25] <kikko> hey guys
[04:26] <bigfoot1> i meant: for those who want a new computer...
[04:26] <ic56> eFfeM: edit /etc/default/rcS and change the value of UTC=  (it's either no or yes).
[04:26] <kikko> how do I take a screenshot of gdm
[04:26] <kikko> (without vmwaring it)
[04:26] <kikko> >
[04:26] <mivecz> can  a live  cd  update?
[04:26] <kikko> ?
[04:26] <eFfeM> ic56: tnx
[04:26] <soundray> bigfoot1: or go for a barebones system. Or buy Ubuntu preinstalled - HP was planning a laptop offer, but I don't know what's become of it.
[04:27] <Kezzer> worked a treat, thanks _jason
[04:27] <sYndax> any recommended usenet reader with nzb support for ubuntu?
[04:27] <sYndax> like klibido?
[04:27] <bigfoot1> soundray: what's a barebones system? You mean buying a computer without any software?
[04:27] <bigfoot1> if so, is that possible?
[04:27] <ic56> bigfoot1: check the yellow pages for your area or google.  Inevitably, there will be a small store in your area that specializes in Linux pre-installed.
[04:28] <bigfoot1> if so, don't they usually cost as much or more than big-name computers with windows?
[04:28] <mivecz> <ic56 can u help me pls
[04:28] <ic56> !justask
[04:28] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[04:28] <soundray> bigfoot1: barebones means no CPU, memory and hard drive. Very popular: Shuttle XPC, but plenty of competitive offers around as well.
[04:28] <mivecz> can  a live  cd  update??
[04:28] <mwe> what process is resposible for automounting external media?
[04:29] <bigfoot1> soundray: why buy barebones?
[04:29] <sYndax> should i do something special before attempting to install 5.10 along side windpws xp? (diff hdds though)?  with it detect and install multiboot menu automaticly?
[04:29] <ic56> tws mivecz what do you mean by `update'?
[04:29] <ic56> mivecz: what do you mean by `update'?
[04:29] <bigfoot1> soundray: so what is included in barebones pc? the case and motherboard only?
[04:30] <soundray> bigfoot1: because you spend less time building it from components; because you get a system with good thermal design; because you get a compact system.
[04:30] <mivecz> ic56 5.10 t0 ---- dapper drake  6
[04:30] <nickrud> mwe, the utopia stack: hotplug, udev & hal (a shifting target)
[04:30] <mivecz> a live  cd
[04:31] <soundray> bigfoot1: it varies a bit between vendors. Lots of resellers build complete systems with no OS from Shuttle and other barebones.
[04:31] <ic56> mivecz: you mean, can a live cd be used to update an existing installation on the harddisk?
[04:31] <mivecz> no
[04:31] <bigfoot1> soundray: but isn't "building from components" just as easy as whipping together a home-made meal? You know, just go to a site like newegg and buy a motherboard, some ram, a processor, etc etc?
[04:31] <dude_dan> does someone has some experiences in installing horde on a ubuntu mashine
[04:32] <mivecz> i mean  ic56  only  to have  windows and use  a live  cd of  5.10 (can i save  my  updates my download  the  thing  i  get  install  )
[04:32] <mivecz> not have  ubuntu in  hard disk
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  I plan on getting the next system at MonarchComputers. :P pick what ya want and they build it for like $40.
[04:33] <ic56> mivecz: yes, you can, as long as the disk is not formatted with NTFS.  You can do it if the disk is FAT or FAT32.
[04:33] <bigfoot1> Dr_Willis: 40? do you mean 400?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  $40 to assemble. :P
[04:34] <mivecz> <ic56 is  any tuttorial  how?
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> They got such a customization set up there. its scary.
[04:34] <bigfoot1> Dr_Willis: but is it cheaper than, say, buying a ready to use dell pc?
[04:34] <joe_> hi does any can help to install my graphic card?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1, i think so. But if you want specific parts.. and dont want to pay the MS tax. :P  its worth a little more.
[04:35] <ic56> I've never tried this with Ubuntu liveCDs -- can one install additional applications into space on a local hard-disk and have them be part of the liveCD system?
[04:35] <soundray> bigfoot1, building from components isn't for everyone. I've done it, but I'd happily start from a barebones to save time. But it's a distinct possibility that you aren't in the target group for one :)
[04:35] <Zoroaster> someone please help
[04:35] <ysa> olaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:35] <soundray> !helpme
[04:35] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:35] <ysa> como esats
[04:35] <Zoroaster> once someone told me about a GUI for samba, or a GUI samba type app for linux
[04:35] <ysa> estas ay
[04:35] <Zoroaster> does anyone knoe what I am talking about
[04:35] <frank23> !es
[04:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:35] <bigfoot1> soundray: i'm not in the target group for barebones or for "build-from-components??
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> Zoroaster,  dozens of them, smb4k is my favorite
[04:36] <Zoroaster> Dr_Willis, thanks, let me look into that one
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> Zoroaster,  xfsamba is another.
[04:36] <soundray> bigfoot1: I think you're not in the target group for barebones.
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> Zoroaster,  gnome has its own interface to samba also.
[04:36] <bigfoot1> i just want to save money. if buying a computer with Windows pre-installed is cheaper than barebones or buildfromcomponent, then i'll go with this cheaper option
[04:37] <Zoroaster> Dr_Willis, how do you invoke the gome interface?
[04:37] <bigfoot1> soundray: but do you think i'm in the target group for buildFromComponents then?
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> Zoroaster,  its right there in the file manager somewhere. :P lol - i tend to use kde.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> Zoroaster,  smb:/// or somthing like that also. will get it to ya.
[04:37] <soundray> bigfoot1: sure, considering that you brought up the subject yourself :)
[04:38] <soundray> bigfoot1: but if you're trying to save money, it may or may not work out.
[04:38] <bigfoot1> soundray: but i don't understand, wouldn't buildFromComponent be more work than Barebones?
[04:38] <away_man> anyone here who can help me with Breezy & Win2k Active Directory this morning?
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> Best way to save $$ buildingyour own. is when you are able to reuse parts :P
[04:38] <ic56> I abuntu liveCD,s can one install additional applications into space on a local hard-disk and have them be part of the liveCD system when it boots?
[04:38] <soundray> bigfoot1: yes, it would.
[04:39] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody can recommend a command-line tool for decoding *.ape (MonkeyAudio) files to wav?
[04:39] <soundray> bigfoot1: am I not making sense?
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> Bear bones saves ya the time to put the MB and case together. thats about an hr of work. :P if you are slow.
[04:39] <bigfoot1> soundray: so how come you tink i'm in the target group for BFC (more work) and not in the less-work Barebones? I'm afraid I don't understand
[04:39] <joe_> my graphique card is a matrox G450 does anybody now why the acceleration doesn't work? even after installing matrox driver and loading drm module
[04:39] <joe_> ?
[04:40] <bigfoot1> Dr_Willis: "reuse parts". you mean buying used parts? Or using the parts from an older computer lying around in the house?
[04:41] <soundray> bigfoot1: you said earlier "for people who don't want to waste money with Windows OS, we should just buy the parts  seperately, eh?". I concluded that you thought it was a good idea. Therefore, if I was selling you a computer, I would offer to sell it to you in parts to save you money.
[04:41] <pulgoki> is there any reason that firestarter would show active connections that wouldnt show up in netstsat?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  i mean.. when making a new system.. i look at what i got in the old systems I have that i can reuse.. :P  Then over the next year or so - i upgrade the old parts in the  new system.. so when i build the NEXT system.. i got more parts to use
[04:42] <root_> Healot, another problem, i can't paste any files in /media/hda5/ my localdisc
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  then i put the older parts back and make lots of little cheap linux machines.  :)
[04:43] <root_> Healot: it says read-only, then i tried to gain 'write' right, but failed
[04:43] <caelistis> Good morning.
[04:44] <soundray> joe_, maybe your xorg.conf isn't set up for it yet. Run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select mga as the driver.
[04:44] <root_> soundray, another problem, i can't paste any files in /media/hda5/ my localdisc
[04:44] <root_> soundray: it says read-only, then i tried to gain 'write' right, but failed
[04:44] <bigfoot1> soundray: i came to no conclusion, the "eh?" was to see whether my guess was true or false.
[04:44] <DeeJay1> root_: set proper umask in fstab?
[04:44] <soundray> root_: use 'sudo cp' on the commandline.
[04:45] <caelistis> May I ask a question?
[04:45] <ic56> pulgoki: I am not familiar with firestarter but, theoretically, a firewall has additional knowledge about its surroundings.  Are the extra connections UDP or TCP?  I'll bet they're UDP.
[04:45] <rysiek|pl> just ask
[04:45] <soundray> caelistis: NO! (just kidding)
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> You just did.. care to ask another? :P
[04:46] <bigfoot1> soundray: when i say "buy in parts", i was thinking of buying brand-new parts from a store such as newegg.com. I was wondering whether this route of buying all-brand-new components seperately is cheaper than buying a ready-to-use brandnew computer from a store such as dell.com
[04:46] <Ini5> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu for the first time. I just wanted to say hey, and it's a great distro!!  ;] 
[04:46] <soundray> bigfoot1: true if you want to avoid throwing money down MS's throat for a product that you're not even going to use.
[04:46] <ic56> tw pulgoki
[04:46] <bigfoot1> soundray: but i don't mind throuwing money to MS if the total price is cheaper
[04:47] <caelistis> I am rather new to Ubuntu and I think my question is a rather simple one. All I wish to do is change the monitor resolution and, throught Gnome and Screen Resolution, the only option it grants me is 60Hz. I know this monitor is more than capable of greater resolutions. What must I do to enable a higher screen resolution?
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  i dont think you will save much $$ for an IDENTICAL system. but you will get to pick what exact parts you want. Dell has way too huge of a Bulk-discount.
[04:47] <soundray> bigfoot1: undecided or false if you think you will get a cheaper computer, or better performance for the same money.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  plus dell can cut costs on other little things.
[04:47] <soundray> caelistis: look out for ubotu's message
[04:47] <soundray> !tell caelistis about fixres
[04:48] <visik7> how can I get ubuntu splash with vanilla kernel ?
[04:48] <bigfoot1> Dr_Willis: is that so? one big advice i got on the net with dell.com in particulal is to get the cheapest ram they are selling. then buy more ram elsewhere. This is how to save money on dell.com
[04:48] <bigfoot1> Dr_Willis: soundray, if that's the case, i'll just buy a computer with Windows-preinstalled.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  what can suck is say dell skimped on the power supply, or case.. or other core parts. :(
[04:48] <caelistis> Thank you soundray, you've been most helpful.
[04:48] <soundray> bigfoot1: I was hoping you wouldn't come to that conclusion :(
[04:48] <gabbah> right, I have a serious problem with my mouse buttons. One of my side buttons produces the exact same button event as my left mouse button! How can I make my sidebutton work as "back" and the left button still work as usual? I can't distinquish them! :(
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> ram and video cards and so on are trivial upgrades. :P
[04:49] <away_man> looking for help pairing Ubuntu with Win2k Active directory.  Followed the Winbind Wiki, but not quite there yet  -help?
[04:49] <bigfoot1> soundray: you must if money doesn't grow on trees
[04:49] <bigfoot1> soundray: i'm not rich
[04:49] <bigfoot1> soundray: and even though i was, i'd probably still buy the cheaper one
[04:49] <soundray> bigfoot1: maybe the cheapest option for you is to tweak your existing system a bit.
[04:49] <nickrud> joe_, I think the 450 requires a defaultdepth of 16 for dri
[04:50] <bigfoot1> Dr_Willis: how can they skimp? you mean dell sometimes doesn't give what they promised?
[04:50] <soundray> bigfoot1: what's your current CPU and RAM?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  they special order a 'cheaper' psu, or case, or whatever to their own specs.. saves them a few $ a pc..
[04:50] <bigfoot1> soundray: well, i'm currently in japan now. and i won't be bringing this desktop which i bought in tokyo back with me when i go home.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> bigfoot1,  it all depends on how much of a "Gotta have exactly what i want" freak you are. :P
[04:51] <nickrud> gabbah, maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto can help
[04:51] <gU1g4> blz gente??
[04:51] <gU1g4> hi everyone
[04:51] <bigfoot1> Dr_Willis: i'm not a "Gotta have exactly what i want" freak at all. not at all. not at all.
[04:51] <gU1g4> alguem aki eh brasileiro??
[04:51] <gabbah> nickrud, i have been using a howto... but in the howto they don't have MY problem :(
[04:52] <_jason> !br
[04:52] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:52] <soundray> bigfoot1: so, when you get home, you're looking to buy a new system, no matter what?
[04:52] <visik7> does ubuntu use suspend2 or the default swsusp of the kernel ?
[04:52] <bigfoot1> soundray: however, back in my home country, we have a 4 year old computer
[04:52] <bigfoot1> soundray: well, what cheap choices do i have?
[04:52] <nickrud> gabbah, an intellimouse?
[04:53] <soundray> bigfoot1: a four-year old computer isn't worth replacing, unless your into numbercrunching or gaming.
[04:53] <gabbah> nickrud, no, I have logitech MX500. I used a howto on mx500.
[04:53] <soundray> s/your/you are/
[04:53] <soundray> Hate it when that happens ^
[04:54] <bigfoot1> soundray: nope. i'm just into websurfing, email, digital cam pic uploading, skype
[04:54] <bigfoot1> etc
[04:54] <gabbah> nickrud, the thing is some of my buttons SHARE the same event, and are BOTH called button 3 for instance, so when i configure a button to do something, the other does it too, becuase it's also called button 3 :/
[04:55] <soundray> bigfoot1: what's the CPU, RAM and HD on the old system?
[04:55] <bigfoot1> soundray:that's a good question.
[04:55] <bigfoot1> soundray: let me see if i can find out that info from my family member back home
[04:56] <soundray> bigfoot1: let's take an educated guess: if it was new 4 years ago, it'll be a 1+GHz class system, probably with 128 or 256MB of RAM and a 40-80 GB HD.
[04:56] <Drakeson> does anyone have Wacom stuff here (and it's hopefully working)
[04:57] <nishoba> hello, i need help on make-ing rt2500 drivers on brezzy
[04:57] <bigfoot1> soundray: ok
[04:57] <bigfoot1> let's ay it is
[04:57] <soundray> bigfoot1: if you invest 100 quid in RAM and a new HD, and you put Dapper on it, you could be happy as a pig in dirt with it.
[04:57] <bigfoot1> soundray: this japanese pc i'm now using is 1.2 ghz and 256 mb ram. but sometimes i gotta wait  so long
[04:58] <bigfoot1> soundray: what's quid? a squid without the s? 8-)
[04:58] <nickrud> gabbah, I set up a 5 button mouse a long time ago, so I'm a bit fuzzy, but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471 has instructions on using xev for identifying buttons, I'd look through that for some ideas
[04:58] <soundray> bigfoot1: sorry, somehow I thought you were originally British.
[04:58] <bigfoot1> soundray: well, thanks for that compliment mate
[04:58] <soundray> bigfoot1: I meant 150 in US$
[04:58] <nishoba> hello, i need help on make-ing rt2500 drivers on brezzy, can anyone help in private chat room?
[04:58] <bigfoot1> soundray: may i ask what made you honor me with that thought?
[04:59] <bigfoot1> soundray: is it my refined manners? 8-)
[04:59] <gabbah> nickrud, it's exactly xev I've been using to identify my buttons. and it tells me my buttons have conflicting numbers, since two buttons can have the same number
[04:59] <soundray> bigfoot1: well, if your spelling of honour doesn't prove me wrong, I don't know what does :)
[05:00] <ic56> soundray: we spell it that way here in Canada too.
[05:00] <bigfoot1> soundray: i don't get it. don't the brits spell it "honour"?
[05:00] <soundray> Where I come from, we spell it Ehre :)
[05:00] <soundray> bigfoot1: yes, they do. Same with colour and rigour
[05:01] <gabbah> nickrud, that link u gave me is the guide i was using.
[05:01] <ic56> oops. Yes, honour is the brit/cdn/probably australian spelling. `o' is US>
[05:01] <nickrud> gabbah, then I'm sorry I spoke up (not the first time)
[05:01] <Jaga> It's all just to make scrabble a slightly higher scoring game...
[05:01] <gabbah> nickrud, no it's ok... thanks anyway :)
[05:02] <mnuel> chat terra
[05:02] <mnuel> char terra
[05:04] <away_man> Can't log into Breezy with my Active Directory acount after using Winbind Wiki instructions.  Kinit works fine.  Can anyone here help?
[05:04] <bigfoot1> soundray: if i may pursue it a bit more: I spelt the word in a non-british way, so how come you thought i was british?
[05:06] <bigfoot1> soundray: i ask only out of curiousity.
[05:07] <soundray> bigfoot1: I apologized for having made an assumption about your nationality. The assumption stems back from the time when we chatted about the Gimp, and I don't know what brought it about.
[05:07] <soundray> *apologize
[05:08] <bigfoot1> soundray: not at all.
[05:08] <bigfoot1> soundray: i don't mind at all
[05:08] <bigfoot1> just curious
[05:08] <bigfoot1> soundray: oh, thanks by the way for remembering about helping me with gimp! 8-)
[05:08] <bigfoot1> soundray: and thanks too for this time.
[05:08] <bigfoot1> soundray: i guess i don't need to buy anything more than more ram.
[05:09] <bigfoot1> soundray: how come you suggested more harddrive?
[05:09] <bigfoot1> will dapper take a lot of gigs?
[05:09] <soundray> bigfoot1: no
[05:10] <soundray> bigfoot1: if you add a hard drive, and have a root partition on one and a /var and /home on the other, it can make your system more responsive.
[05:10] <soundray> bigfoot1: in certain circumstances I must add.
[05:10] <yohan> i just recompiled the kernel and i get this error when booting: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0), any ideas?
[05:10] <bigfoot1> soundray: so two harddirives is better than one, even when the total gig size is the same?
[05:11] <bigfoot1> soundray: in what circumstances?
[05:11] <soundray> bigfoot1: yes.
[05:11] <soundray> bigfoot1: in circumstances where the bus speed is higher than the maximum transfer rate of the bus.
[05:11] <soundray> bigfoot1: that would be the case in practically any desktop system of that age.
[05:12] <soundray> bigfoot1: correction: in circumstances where the bus speed is higher than the maximum transfer rate of the hard disk drives
[05:12] <bigfoot1> soundray: oh kay.
[05:12] <tristanmike> not to stick my nose, in, but it seems we've gotten "offtopic" here :P
[05:13] <bigfoot1> soundray: shall we continue this at offtopic?
[05:14] <GigaClon> so I belive some one had a kernel panic problem? can someone help him?
[05:15] <soundray> bigfoot1: I think we're discussing your hardware options for running Ubuntu. That should be fine on this channel, shouldn't it, tristanmike?
[05:15] <soundray> bigfoot1: anyway, we pretty much got to the bottom of it.
[05:15] <dwarner> Question: I started with (K)ubuntu Hoary, and did an apt-get dist-upgrade to get to Breezy.  I am running kernel linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp.  I see a lot of update for 10-6, but not of 10-5.  Should I be on 10-6?  When I do a dpkg -l \*linux-image\* I don't see 10-6 as an option.
[05:16] <Blippe> when i do "sudo lufsmount ftpfs://name:pass@place.com /mntpoint" i have to be root to use it, how do i give permission to my usual user?
[05:16] <dwarner> Current verison of linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp is 2.6.10-34.7
[05:16] <misfit> Hey guys :D I am running the buntu now. But I am having problems with my ATI :-(
[05:16] <tristanmike> soundray, well, it's kinda on topic, but it's not directly related, anyway, I was sayin before someone else did, I didn't mean to but in :)
[05:16] <GigaClon> blippe sudo
[05:17] <pedrocr> I followed the instructions here: "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI" but the board isn't detected, is there anything else I can try?
[05:18] <misfit> pedrocr: have you looked at this ->>http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=dma
[05:18] <Neth> anyone interested in playing a network ubuntu game?
[05:18] <misfit> Might work. Didn't for me lol I am still struggling
[05:18] <ic56> Blippe: assuming the files in that directory are already owned by the same uid as you have on the mounting box, you're probably need to fix the permissions on the mount point.  Before mounting, chown it to yourself.
[05:18] <Blippe> GigaClon, "sudo cd" doesn't work, and i want the normal user to be able to use the fs, i don't want my mediaplayer to have root priviligies
[05:18] <msid> is there any decent gui application that can capture video from a usb camera ?
[05:18] <michael__> My network speed seems to be capped at ~300k, I tried another NIC, already disabled ipv6. Nothing helps. I read a couple of posts about probs with the new 2.6 kernel so i upgraded to dapper, no help. Can anyone help me?
[05:19] <pagvac> how to check distro version from terminal?
[05:19] <eobanb> pagevac: uname -a
[05:19] <dwarner> Is linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp  2.6.10-34.7 still being supported?
[05:19] <Blippe> Wait, i got it, of course i have to use the suid!
[05:19] <pagvac> no, i need the ubuntu flavor
[05:19] <ic56> pagvac: cat /etc/issue
[05:19] <nickrud> pagvac, lsb_release -a
[05:20] <pagvac> nickrud: that's the one i couldnt remember! thanx!
[05:20] <jadaz87> i was wondering if anybody here know anything about compiling packages
[05:20] <soundray> michael__: what kind of network are you connected to, and how?
[05:20] <gatita> holaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:20] <soundray> jadaz87: ubotu does
[05:20] <misfit> brb, I am going to restart X. Wish me luck :D
[05:20] <soundray> !compile
[05:20] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[05:21] <gatita> hola porfa conectaros con migo anda
[05:21] <pagvac> gatita: q dices gatita?
[05:21] <michael__> soundray: i am on my home netwerk, using a router. Any other machine in the house has normal connection speeds. It's a wired 100mbit full duplex connection
[05:21] <jadaz87> !compiling
[05:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[05:22] <greg__> hallo everybody
[05:22] <analfabeta> hi, how can i configure my proxy server?
[05:22] <soundray> michael__: is it a PCI NIC?
[05:22] <michael__> soundray: yes, a 3com. Also tried a realtek
[05:22] <greg__> anyone know how install mustek wcam 300a driver??
[05:23] <ic56> Neth:
[05:23] <soundray> michael__: are you using CAT5 cable? Tried switching that?
[05:23] <michael__> soundray: dmesg sais that it loaded:  3Com PCI 3c905C
[05:23] <ic56> Neth: do you need to test something out?
[05:23] <phus> how would I restart ssh on breezy via cli
[05:23] <michael__> soundray: it's cat5 cable, but there is also no packet loss
[05:24] <msid> is there any decent gui application that can capture video from a usb camera ?
[05:24] <soundray> phus: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[05:24] <pizzadude> michael__: you said its cat5 is it 2 pair or 4 pair wire?
[05:24] <soundray> michael__: is it connected to the same point as the machines that have normal speed?
[05:24] <graft> anyone have a clue why dovecot refuses to let me login, even with TLS?
[05:25] <michael__> pizzadud: it's a 4 pair wired cable. Autonegotiation also detects full duplex. I also manualy tried switching to halfduplex
[05:25] <soundray> msid: any v4l application should be able to do that, including xawtv and zapping
[05:26] <michael__> soundray: every othermachine in the house uses wireless... they outperform wired at the moment
[05:27] <graft> wireless outperforms wired?
[05:27] <soundray> michael__: what's at the other end of the patch cable?
[05:27] <msid> soundray: xawtv is the only app i managed to capture until now video as an avi file, no sound though
[05:27] <graft> boggle
[05:27] <eggzeck> out-perform wired? hard to believe :)
[05:27] <axnotizes> JOIN #centericq
[05:27] <msid> my question is if you know any applications
[05:27] <msid> except xawtv
[05:27] <msid> all v4l apps doesn't tell anything to me
[05:27] <michael__> eggzeck, it's true thats why i'm here, there is something wrong :P
[05:28] <soundray> msid, I've only tried the two above. Maybe 'apt-cache search video capture'?
[05:28] <michael__> soundray: at the other end there is a drayteck vigor 2600G router.
[05:28] <michael__> soundray: so that shouldn't normally give any problems
[05:28] <graft> michael__: do wireless packets run through that router?
[05:28] <soundray> michael__: have you tried connecting another machine to that router via a cable?
[05:29] <michael__> graft: yes
[05:29] <jadaz87> soundray what does this mean? make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[05:29] <michael__> soundray: i will try that now
[05:29] <msid> soundray: with zapping you can capture video ?
[05:29] <eggzeck> jadaz87: no make file
[05:29] <graft> hmm, no one knows anything about dovecot, eh
[05:29] <veldorzvizzerd> hello again, I've been trying to find a VoIP client that works well with both windows and linux, I found one here -> http://www.gizmoproject.com/download-linux.html - only problem is that now I'm not sure which linux package I should install and whether the one for these linux flavours would be compatible with ubuntu breezy badger - any ideas, soundray?
[05:29] <jadaz87> but there is a makefile :-\
[05:29] <eggzeck> what I meant was did you try make
[05:30] <jadaz87> libnetmd
[05:30] <jadaz87> i extracted with tar
[05:30] <soundray> msid: I remember seeing an option, but I haven't tried it. Haven't even used it for a long time, since I'm on DVB now (hooray).
[05:30] <eggzeck> then make install?
[05:30] <jadaz87> went into the directory
[05:30] <jadaz87> and did make install
[05:30] <jadaz87> yes
[05:30] <michael__> soundray: thanx so far btw. I am going to test the same cable using my notebook. So i'm going offline from this machine. I'll be back in a couple of mins
[05:30] <graft> veldorzvizzerd: the debian one is probably your best bet
[05:31] <eggzeck> did you configure (whatever it is you're trying to make?)
[05:31] <veldorzvizzerd> cheers graft :)
[05:31] <soundray> jadaz87: it may mean that you have to run 'make' by itself before 'make install'
[05:31] <Paedrigh> Rythmbox and mp3. gstreamer0.10-ugly is installed, but it still won't read mp3:s. Using dapper. Anyone got a qlue about what's up?
[05:32] <soundray> veldorzvizzerd: in the absence of a Ubuntu package, the Debian one is your best bet. No guarantees, though.
[05:32] <veldorzvizzerd> graft: should I download ibsipphoneapi OSS  or ALSA ?
[05:32] <jadaz87> soundray i just did that and it came up with a whole bunch of errors
[05:32] <graft> ALSA
[05:32] <veldorzvizzerd> thanks soundray, and graft :)
[05:32] <soundray> veldorzvizzerd: you could also drop them a line and ask for a ubuntu package.
[05:32] <veldorzvizzerd> will test it out and see how it goes
[05:32] <veldorzvizzerd> yea, will do
[05:32] <graft> ubuntu does seem to be the most popular distrib these days... you'd think it'd be more supported
[05:32] <GTX> is there anyway to play wm9 codec on linux?
[05:32] <soundray> jadaz87: did you run ./configure as well?
[05:33] <variant> whats some good games i can install on ubuntu?
[05:33] <variant> free ones
[05:33] <soundray> !tell GTX about w32codecs
[05:33] <veldorzvizzerd> true grafy
[05:33] <veldorzvizzerd> graft*
[05:33] <Paedrigh> Rythmbox and mp3. gstreamer0.10-ugly is installed, but it still won't read mp3:s. Using dapper. Anyone got a qlue about what's up?
[05:33] <yohan> i just compiled the kernel 2.6.16 and followed this guide:http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/ and when i boot i get somekindof devfs error, is there anything i missed in my config file maybe?
[05:33] <graft> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=409024
[05:33] <apokryphos> variant: quite a few little games are available in the repositories
[05:33] <soundray> variant: I like penguincommand. But then, I'm stuck in the Eighties.
[05:33] <graft> variant
[05:33] <apokryphos> variant: i.e. kdegames
[05:33] <graft> check out that link
[05:34] <veldorzvizzerd> sorry, what was the command for installing a .deb application that I've just downloaded?
[05:34] <IcemanV9> Paedrigh: join #ubuntu+1 (dapper help)
[05:34] <jadaz87> soundray when i do that it just comes up blank
[05:34] <apokryphos> veldorzvizzerd: dpkg -i somepackage.deb
[05:34] <Paedrigh> thanx, Iceman
[05:34] <soundray> jadaz87: what are you compiling?
[05:34] <veldorzvizzerd> cheers apokryphos
[05:34] <variant> graft: what link?
[05:35] <jadaz87> soundray libnetmd  so i can use mt netmd mini disc player on ubuntu
[05:35] <graft> the linuxquestions one i posted just now
[05:36] <soran> hello, how do i recover my root-password?
[05:36] <yohan> please help me!
[05:37] <soundray> soran: boot in recovery mode, run passwd
[05:37] <variant> graft: yo posted a blank line
[05:37] <variant> graft: unless the text was black
[05:37] <ic56> soran: Ubuntu doesn't normally have a root password.
[05:37] <graft> um... maybe... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=409024
[05:37] <ic56> !root
[05:37] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:38] <ic56> !justask
[05:38] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:38] <soundray> jadaz87: that software seems to be experimental. Perhaps you will get help on the project mailing list.
[05:38] <graft> maybe he's stuck in a tar pit with only a laptop to communicate for help, people...
[05:39] <yohan> i just compiled the kernel 2.6.16 and followed this guide:http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/ and when i boot i get somekindof devfs error, is there anything i missed in my config file maybe?
[05:39] <veldorzvizzerd> thanks again apokryphos, and btw, soundray, the debian one works perfectly
[05:40] <veldorzvizzerd> so thanks
[05:40] <veldorzvizzerd> :)
[05:40] <john__> hey any1 there?
[05:40] <soundray> yohan: you should follow ubuntu instructions if you want to compile a kernel for ubuntu.
[05:40] <yohan> soundray: i cant find any guide
[05:40] <GTX> soundray, Just installed them but I still cant play it
[05:40] <GTX> :S
[05:41] <john__> any1 there?
[05:41] <soundray> yohan: having said that, maybe after installing devfsd you can boot the new kernel.
[05:41] <graft> yohan: did you build devfs support into your kernel?
[05:41] <IcemanV9> yohan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[05:41] <yohan> graft: i cant find the option in gconfig...is it there?
[05:42] <ic56> !justask john__
[05:42] <ubotu> ic56: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:42] <soulreaper> hello. i want to access a windoes share... whast program should i install for that? :)
[05:42] <ic56> !justask
[05:42] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:42] <proximus> hi
[05:42] <graft> yohan: um. it's usually in file systems/pseudo fs
[05:43] <soundray> GTX, what player?
[05:43] <proximus> how can set java path on my ubuntu
[05:43] <proximus> fabio italy
[05:43] <proximus> thanks
[05:43] <graft> you might just try disabling it if you have it
[05:43] <GTX> soundray, Ive tried on vlc and mplayer
[05:43] <away_man> joined Breezy machine to Win2k Active Directory, but unable to log into Breezy with my AD account(s).  Any help here?
[05:43] <yohan> brb
[05:44] <soundray> GTX: installed from the repositories?
[05:44] <GTX> soundray, installed what?
[05:44] <GTX> mplayer?
[05:44] <graft> GTX: are they DRM'd?
[05:44] <soundray> GTX, yes, and vlc
[05:44] <GTX> yes i have soundray
[05:44] <GTX> graft, how can i find out
[05:45] <proximus> how can I set java path on my ubuntu
[05:45] <pmarrone> Hi, to all, my ubuntu ver 5.10 64bit installation can't see my SATA II disk, is this controller supported?
[05:45] <proximus> someone help me
[05:45] <proximus> ??
[05:45] <graft> um. if they are, they'll play, you'll just get gibberish
[05:45] <soundray> proximus: with an export CLASSPATH= statement
[05:45] <GTX> graft, they dont play at all
[05:45] <GTX> all i hear off them
[05:45] <GTX> is sound
[05:46] <proximus> thanks
[05:46] <soundray> proximus: ~/.bashrc is a good place to add that.
[05:46] <GNU_Style> i compiled a custom kernel and installed it, is it safe to delete the /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12 directory? and the linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 file?
[05:46] <_jason> GTX: do you have w32codecs installed?
[05:46] <fgdf> hi  i have problems with my screen resolution
[05:46] <GTX> _jason, yes.
[05:46] <michael__> so i'm back. Same problem on my windows notebook. On the same machine wired is slow, wireless is fast. Tried a different cable, same problem. So the problem must be at the router
[05:46] <_jason> GTX: and you are using 386?
[05:46] <soundray> GNU_Style: it should be, unless you later want to compile extra modules.
[05:47] <GTX> _jason, yes
[05:47] <graft> GTX: what does mplayer say about codecs?
[05:47] <pmarrone> does anyone has the answer to my question?
[05:47] <GTX> graft, when I play it in mplayer it just plays sound
[05:47] <GTX> doesnt say anything
[05:47] <evilz> hi  i have problems with my screen resolution, i have dapper now and i have this problem.  some one cant help me?
[05:48] <graft> it should at least say what codec it tried, or that it failed to find one
[05:48] <graft> are you playing from the CL?
[05:48] <soundray> GTX, mplayer always produces copious output on stdout. Maybe you have to start it from a terminal
[05:48] <GNU_Style> ic, if I check my sound card driver under xconfig, is it safe to disable ALSA? since the driver is already compiled in the kermel?
[05:48] <GTX> graft, CL?
[05:48] <GTX> soundray, woot I started it from console
[05:48] <GTX> and it worked
[05:48] <GTX> thanks!
[05:48] <arrick_> hi, Im arrick
[05:48] <veldorzvizzerd> how would I install java or allow javascript to run on ubuntu, the firefox on here doesn't seem to support it for some reason?
[05:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell veldorzvizzerd about java
[05:49] <soundray> GNU_Style: I wouldn't disable ALSA unless there was a very good reason.
[05:49] <_jason> veldorzvizzerd: javascript is different from java
[05:49] <veldorzvizzerd> oh, i c
[05:49] <GTX> soundray, any idea why it works from terminal?
[05:49] <arrick_> is there a linux version that just runs a file and print server?
[05:50] <soundray> GTX: how did you start it when it didn't work?
[05:50] <evilz> hi  i have problems with my screen resolution, i have dapper now and i have this problem.  some one cant help me?
[05:50] <GNU_Style> so wats the purpose of including the soundcard driver to my kernel if I still run ALSA?
[05:50] <dcgarri> New to linux here.... I installed and uprgraded to 5.10 last night... i have everything working EXCEPT the DVD playback.... I installed the ATI drivers available on the site, but the video is running as if i have no video card... any thoughts?
[05:50] <GTX> soundray, double clicked mplayer and clicked open file then ok
[05:50] <_jason> GTX: does it work if you do 'gmplayer file.wmv' ?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> dcgarri,  you got dma enabled for the dvd drives?
[05:51] <soundray> GTX, no idea. Much better to use the terminal, anyway -- it's the Linux way.
[05:51] <sYndax> uhm... having installion problems... ne1 care to help?
[05:51] <ic56> arrick_: try http://distrowatch.org
[05:51] <pmarrone> Hi, to all, my ubuntu ver 5.10 64bit installation can't see my SATA II disk, is this controller supported?
[05:51] <dcgarri> how would i go about enabling dma?
[05:51] <_jason> !dma
[05:52] <soundray> GNU_Style: ALSA is more than a driver module.
[05:52] <arrick_> Thanks ic56
[05:52] <_jason> !+dma
[05:52] <ubotu> dma is, like, totally, Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:52] <tsgomez> hello all
[05:53] <dcgarri> that's great... thanks again!
[05:53] <ic56> !justask
[05:53] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:53] <tsgomez> I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu, can someone help?
[05:53] <GTX> yes _jason  it does
[05:53] <soundray> tsgomez: it's hard to tell if you don't describe the problem.
[05:54] <sYndax> i finsihed the 1st install stage, installed it on a diff hdd, install the boot loader and after reboot it loads xp... like ubuntu dont exist
[05:54] <arrick_> ic56, do I have to be a genious to get my older box set to run these versions?
[05:54] <_jason> GTX: ok makes no sense to me then.  Make sure the shortcut says 'gmplayer'
[05:55] <ic56> arrick_: how old a box? P-III? pentium-MMX?  386?
[05:55] <GNU_Style> ic, after compiling my kernel as .deb, how do I build a kernel header?
[05:55] <variant> is there an apt package for nexuiz ? i cant seem to find it
[05:55] <soundray> sYndax: you may have to change boot priorities in the BIOS setup.
[05:55] <arrick_> mmx
[05:55] <sYndax> i tried... i tried booting the ubuntu dvd.... it says error loading operating system
[05:55] <arrick_> ic56: mmx
[05:55] <misfit> can someone help with my ati 9600xt. I have followed countless tutorials and it just isn't having it :-/
[05:55] <sYndax> ubuntu hdd sorry...
[05:56] <Masterkong> heloo
[05:56] <away_man> pmarrone: do you have RAID enabled on your SATA controller?
[05:56] <pmarrone> no, ...
[05:56] <GNU_Style> ic, after compiling my kernel as .deb, how do I build a kernel header?
[05:56] <katerine> hi
[05:57] <Masterkong> i'm used to the quality of cinema craft encoder from windoze.. what is the best encoder under linux?
[05:57] <pmarrone> away_man: from the bios is not selected any raid
[05:57] <away_man> don't really know that I can help; I was just doing some digging on your problem since I'm having no luck with mine
[05:57] <ic56> arrick_: most of today's distros come with GUI and are too heavy for MMX.  You won't even get past the installer.  However, there are some distros explictly targetted at older hw and will be easy to install.
[05:57] <arrick_> ic56: I forgot to mention that the other computers on my network are running XP Pro.
[05:57] <tsgomez> I'm installing a dual-boot with WinXP.  I've d/l Ubuntu 5.10, md5 checks out, BIOS is set to boot from CD, but when I restart, it boots XP instead of running the Ubuntu installer
[05:57] <sYndax> soundray: i tried... i tried booting the ubuntu hdd.... it says error loading operating system
[05:57] <pmarrone> away_man: umhh ok thanks
[05:58] <ic56> arrick_: are you completely new to Linux, or have you done this kind of thing before?
[05:58] <arrick_> ic56: do you know where I might get a copy of one of them?
[05:58] <tsgomez> does anyone have an idea why?
[05:58] <GTX> _jason, actuly gmplayer doesnt work
[05:58] <katerine> how to open a jpeg file that comes from a Mac on Ubuntu (whatever the img format is, all te generated img files are seen as BinHex)
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> tsgomez,  look on the cd.. what files do you see?
[05:58] <arrick_> ic56: I'm completely new, and trying to learn linux ahile I am in school for network adminisration
[05:58] <katerine> ?
[05:59] <Masterkong> what is the best mpeg2 encoder in linux?
[05:59] <tsgomez> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[05:59] <soundray> katerine: install the macutils package and convert them with the util (I forget what the name was)
[05:59] <pramirez> ola
[05:59] <_jason> GTX: what does it say
[05:59] <away_man> pmarrone: something here may help you (?)  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=664688#post664688
[06:00] <pramirez> ola a todos
[06:00] <Trae> what's a decent Gnome Bittorrent client?  the default one that comes with Ubuntu sucks.
[06:00] <away_man> Question:  joined Breezy machine to Win2k Active Directory, but unable to log into Breezy with my AD account(s).  Any help here?
[06:00] <pmarrone> away_man: thanks i'm going to check
[06:00] <soundray> sYndax: so you can't boot the HD installation or the DVD. Maybe those are separate issues.
[06:00] <sYndax> HDD sorry typo.
[06:00] <sYndax> i tried booting that hdd directly it said error loading operating system.
[06:01] <void^> Trae: if you want gui, azureus
[06:01] <Trae> void^, okies
[06:01] <Masterkong> mpeg2 encoders anyone?
[06:01] <void^> Trae: be sure to use sun's java
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Masterkong,  check the wiki/forums :P
[06:01] <arrick_> ic56: the one thing I worry about is trying to get it setup, the printer is USB and I have xp pro on the mmx right now, and I am trying to get an os that will be faster on it
[06:01] <sYndax> soundray: i tried booting that hdd directly it said error loading operating system.
[06:01] <Masterkong> thank you
[06:01] <Trae> oh
[06:01] <Trae> :/
[06:02] <Trae> java
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Masterkong,  when in doubt.. always check the wiki/forums :P
[06:02] <Trae> heh
[06:02] <graft> Trae: try ktorrent... it's KDE but it is damn nice
[06:02] <GTX> _jason, no errors
[06:02] <tsgomez> Dr_Willis: I see ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[06:02] <ic56> arrick_: try DSL (Damn Small Linux), or Slackware.  The first is meant to be small but is more oriented to the desktop user.  The latter is more hands-on, so you learn more.  Read the reviews on distrowatch.org for more info.  Personally, I encountered no problems installing Debian on an MMX system.  The advantage, if you already use ubuntu, is tha the package manager is same.
[06:02] <veldorzvizzerd> how did you put ubuntu file on the CD, tsgomez?
[06:02] <_jason> GTX: can you pastebin the output?
[06:02] <GTX> sure
[06:02] <arrick_> ok
[06:02] <tsgomez> burned it as an iso using AVS Disc Creator
[06:02] <arrick_> ic56: thanks for your help, I'll try both
[06:02] <soundray> syndax: somehow your grub installation seems to have failed. Try fixing it following the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:03] <arrick_> ic56: will the slax version work, or is it one of the gui versions?>
[06:03] <sYndax> it said it installed the grub...
[06:03] <veldorzvizzerd> hm, I don't see why it shouldn't work.. Dr_Willis?
[06:03] <graft> ic56: what does "hands-on" mean, impossibly hard to configure?
[06:03] <ic56> arrick_: slackware's installer is not GUI so it should install fine on a smaller box.
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> tsgomez,  congrats - you made a cd with the image file on it.. you bunt it wrong. :P
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> tsgomez,  what did you burn the file with?
[06:04] <tsgomez> oh :S
[06:04] <epp> hey
[06:04] <veldorzvizzerd> I used ISO Recorder, tsgomez
[06:04] <epp> anyone here a mac user?
[06:04] <redeeman> hello
[06:04] <GTX> _jason, http://pastebin.com/620226
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> tsgomez,  I tend to use "Burn At Once" for my Iso burning needs under windows.
[06:04] <redeeman> can anyone tell me where ubuntu keeps it's equivelant of rc.local?
[06:04] <soundray> sYndax: give it a chance, follow the instructions I linked you to.
[06:05] <sYndax> will chk ty :)
[06:05] <veldorzvizzerd> tsgomez, in case you wanna give it a try - ISO Recorder is here -> http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[06:05] <Masterkong> couldn't find anything useful in the wiki or the forums..
[06:05] <jsmidt> I need to get a hold of freenode staff.  It tells me how to finf if there are staff members on, on the page http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#messageyou.  But how do I send them a message?
[06:05] <tsN00B> ah...ok, let me try that.   ISO Recorder, then Burn at Once.  Thanks :)  I'll be back to let you know :)
[06:05] <GTX> _jason, is there anyway to get vlc player to play it
[06:05] <ic56> graft: it means the instructions tell you to edit files with a text editor.  I haven't installed it this decade so don't know how good the instructions are.
[06:05] <Masterkong> isn't anyone making dvds here?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> tsN00B,  I like burn at once better.. but it dont do dvd images. :(
[06:05] <apokryphos> jsmidt: /msg username somemessage
[06:06] <_jason> GTX: only if you compile your own
[06:06] <jsmidt> thanks apokryphos
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Masterkong,  i tend to rip them to video files and thats it. :P
[06:06] <GTX> _jason, is it easy?
[06:06] <epp> anyone a PPC linux user?
[06:06] <tsN00B> hmm...I don't have the Burn At Once option :/
[06:07] <Masterkong> ehh.. i want to encode a new mpeg2 fiel
[06:07] <Masterkong> *file
[06:07] <_jason> GTX: have you compiled anything before?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Masterkong, fire up synaptic and enter dvd for a serch item. and see whats there.
[06:07] <GTX> lol yes _jason  :p
[06:07] <away_man> tsN00B: http://www.dvd-replica.com/dvdfreeware4.php
[06:08] <veldorzvizzerd> tsN00B, I think that Burn At Once is for making dvd replicas
[06:08] <graft> GTX, it works from the shell fine? just not with gmplayer?
[06:08] <Masterkong> ok.. but i wanna know before.. if there are any programs that can compete with cce.
[06:08] <GTX> graft, correct
[06:08] <ic56> redeeman: the equivalent to rc.local looks very different in AT&T style unix (including Ubuntu).  Instead of a file, it's a directory of files.
[06:08] <graft> can you pastebin the output from non-gui mplayer?
[06:08] <Masterkong> else i have to try to run cce with wine
[06:08] <_jason> GTX: try playing with the video out preferences in gmplayer
[06:08] <Masterkong> and then i kinda defeat the meaning of switching to linus
[06:08] <redeeman> ic56: doesent ubuntu have a file you can put your stuff in, which it runs at the end of all startup stuff, no matter which runlevel you to go
[06:09] <GNU_Style> ic, after compiling my kernel as .deb, how do I build a kernel header?
[06:09] <ic56> redeeman: put a file in /etc/init.d  then symlink it to /etc/rc?.d
[06:09] <GTX> _jason, i want it to work in vlc
[06:09] <GTX> i hate mplayer
[06:09] <GTX> ;x
[06:09] <_jason> GTX: I love mplayer, I am not going to help you.  <evil laugh>
[06:09] <pizzadude> who here is most familiar with dd command?
[06:09] <GTX> lol
[06:09] <GTX> ;d
[06:09] <_jason> GTX: http://www.nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/
[06:09] <ic56> redeeman: sorry, it doesn't.  No linux system does.  What you describe is a BSD-style setup.
[06:09] <veldorzvizzerd> by the way, anyone here know where I could get a widget engine for ubuntu (breezy) similar to Konfabulator (Yahoo Widget Engine) in windows?
[06:10] <graft> mplayer is my favorite app on linux, hands down
[06:10] <sYndax> soundray: i got XP on 1 disc and ubuntu on another... the guide says to install the grub on the partition with ububut... but that hadd dun have an mbr... it wont help...
[06:11] <dcgarri> I asked a DVD question a few minutes ago and was instructed to make sure that DMA was turned on for DVD drives... I opened the hdparm.conf file and found that dma was "on" for cdrom drives... would this also cover dvd drives?  (I have two drives)
[06:11] <arrick_> im still here, had 2 tabs open
[06:11] <pizzadude> put grub on compact flash card
[06:11] <sYndax> i intentionaly install ubuntu on a diff hdd so i can recover... but the MBR is on the primary XP hdd... the guide says to point the grub to the UBUNTU parition (which is on a diff hdd).
[06:11] <soop> anyone half decent with php/mysql?
[06:11] <redeeman> ic56: really? gentoo has it, slackware has it, arch has it
[06:11] <Masterkong> quit
[06:12] <ic56> redeeman: I didn't know that.  I've never used gentoo and it's been a long time since I used slackware.
[06:12] <variant> insmod: error inserting 'rt2x00-2.0.0-b3/rt2x00core.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[06:12] <variant> anyone can help me with that?
[06:13] <IcemanV9> !tell dcgarri about hdparm
[06:13] <redeeman> ic56: slackware has had it for as long as it existed, and i know that gentoo have had it in many years
[06:13] <misfit> " fglrx-kernel-2.6.12-9-386: Depends: xorg-driver-fglrx (= 8.22.5-1) but 8.23.7-1 is to be installed
[06:13] <misfit> E: Broken packages
[06:13] <misfit> " grrr
[06:13] <misfit> I hate computers lol
[06:13] <ic56> redeeman: thx for the info.  re you familiar with init.d style setup?
[06:13] <ali4728> Help needed! Is there a way to force [rmdir somedir/*]  remove all sub folders and files within a directory without going into every subdir and clean existing files? thnx
[06:14] <_jason> ali4728: rm -r
[06:14] <variant> are there any nice theme or artwork packages i can install?
[06:14] <redeeman> ic56: yes but debian/ubuntu is all insane about it, with the symlinks in rcX.d stuff
[06:14] <cavediver> Anyone runs emvs ?
[06:14] <ic56> redeeman: isn't that the standard way?
[06:14] <redeeman> ic56: gentoo has a much more modern view of runlevels and the init system
[06:14] <cavediver> evms
[06:14] <ali4728> thanks _jason
[06:14] <variant> redeeman: agread
[06:15] <redeeman> ic56: the standard was from before a computer barely existed, it's obsolete
[06:15] <variant> redeeman: is there an init-ng package for ubuntu?
[06:15] <redeeman> variant: else you can compile it, but init-ng isn't really so much better, the thing that makes boot slow isn't sysvinit, it's the scripts sysvinit invokes
[06:16] <variant> redeeman: i know.. initng doesnt use them
[06:16] <redeeman> and since initng has it's own init scripts, they don't do as much, thereby aving time
[06:16] <variant> redeeman: yeah..
[06:16] <variant> redeeman: init ng does things in paralel instead of serial
[06:16] <variant> afaik
[06:17] <redeeman> variant: gentoo has support for parallel init scripts ;)
[06:17] <redeeman> with sysvinit ;)
[06:17] <redeeman> it's just a variable you set in /etc/conf.d/rc
[06:17] <Janno> Why the amarok dont show subtitles?
[06:17] <misfit> Need some help :-(  My system setup has been easy so far but fglrx refuses to be installed etc etc
[06:17] <pizzadude> i need help with dd anybody know anything about it other than the sheer basics?
[06:17] <Nabiki> Anyone know much about installing Ubuntu on laptops?
[06:17] <Janno> totem'
[06:18] <Janno> *
[06:18] <veldorzvizzerd> just installed it on my laptop today, Nabiki, I'll try and help
[06:18] <pizzadude> Nabiki: isnt there a howto on the ubuntu website? i think i seen on there?
[06:19] <Janno> Why the totem dont show subtitles?
[06:19] <pizzadude> i am not YET running Ubuntu, but i am reading into it.
[06:19] <visik7> I've recompiled a vanilla kernel but now splash doesn't work
[06:19] <visik7> how can I patch it ?
[06:20] <Nabiki> I will look into the howto.  My main worry is the video I think.  The live CD didn't like my video at all. hehe :P
[06:20] <ic56> pizzadude: maybe I can help
[06:20] <_jason> pizzadude: best way is to try the livecd
[06:22] <pizzadude> ic56: i will have to take you up on that offer later, i gotta call, gotta run now.
[06:22] <pizzadude> _jason: yeah live cd is cool but i am looking for server application without x.
[06:23] <ic56> pizzadude: if you don't want X, Ubuntu is the wrong distro for you.  Try Debian.
[06:24] <epp> How do i get limewire to run on PPC linux, i have downloaded ibm linux but limewire errors on load. Any help?
[06:24] <_jason> ic56: why?
[06:24] <pizzadude> ic56: call canceled!  so are you familiar with dd? i am trying to clone a drive thats giving me issues.
[06:24] <Janno> Why the totem dont show subtitles?
[06:24] <ic56> pizzadude: ask your question.
[06:26] <pizzadude> ok, i use basic dd command to copy partion to a file. sda1.img, sda5.img, and sda6.img then when i try to copy that partion info or file to a new partion nothing is copied, drive says space is used but no files apear to be there
[06:26] <hso> howdy :S
[06:26] <hso> could i get some help with java please?
[06:27] <hso> i "think" i've installed it, but dslreports still says i don't have it installed -.-
[06:27] <epp> hso, type "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and pick the java sun package.
[06:27] <ic56> pizzadude: are you copying to different partitions on teh same drive, or to a different drive alltogether?
[06:28] <Fawzib> I have a bash question, is there a way to check if a function is declared?
[06:28] <pizzadude> different drive altogether.. sda1 to sdc1
[06:28] <hso> epp -- which do i select, 1 or 2?
[06:28] <ic56> Fawzib: use: "type <function>"
[06:29] <hso> 1 is gij-wrapper, 2 is java-gcj
[06:29] <yancheng> Hi, I want to experiment with chmod g+s and chmod u+s http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10720
[06:29] <Fawzib> ic56: how do I use it in a script: if [ type <function> ] ; then whatever?
[06:29] <veldorzvizzerd> how do I install something that is in a diff.gz archive?
[06:29] <yancheng> i try to make a root owned file as read only. access deny for other
[06:30] <yancheng> i wrote a hehe script, with setgid and setuid turn on
[06:30] <hso> hmm.. i typed in "2" for my selection, and all i see is this --
[06:30] <hso> Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[06:30] <hso> root@ubuntu:/usr#
[06:30] <yancheng> when i login as other and execute hehe, the hehe cannot delete the root owned file
[06:30] <epp> hso, what are they labled?
[06:30] <hso>   Selection    Alternative
[06:30] <hso> -----------------------------------------------
[06:30] <hso>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[06:30] <hso> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[06:31] <epp> hso, you need to get the seveas java package...
[06:31] <apokryphos> hso: do NOT paste in here. Use a pastebin service.
[06:31] <epp> !seveas
[06:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:31] <hso> apokryphos,  -- sorry... i don't know what pastebin is...
[06:31] <apokryphos> !tell hso about pastebin
[06:31] <hso> epp - how do i do that?
[06:32] <Janno> Why the totem dont show subtitles? Help please
[06:32] <epp> hso hold on ill get the linkx.
[06:32] <ic56> pizzadude: `type' may be the wrong solution for this.  It will return true regardless of whether the item is a function or a file.  Do you care about the difference?
[06:32] <ic56> Fawzib: `type' may be the wrong solution for this.  It will return true regardless of whether the item is a function or a file.  Do you care about the difference?
[06:32] <hso> epp - ok
[06:33] <ic56> pizzadude: you said it told you the disk wasn't empty.  What do you mean by that?  Were you able to mount the filesystem and it appeared empty?
[06:33] <veldorzvizzerd> _jason, did  you say earlier that you have WiFi on your desktop?
[06:34] <ardchoille> Really awesome project: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149673
[06:34] <Fawzib> I'm making an init.d script and I want it to work in debian and ubuntu, want to check if the lsb init-functions exist, also breezy's log function is called log_begin_msg and dapper is log_daemon_msg
[06:35] <pizzadude> ic56: yes i mounted and then df it said the drive was 59% used but inside the mounted directory, there were no files
[06:35] <epp> hso, go to "http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb" and download that.
[06:35] <pizzadude> i can make it work for the active drive such as to dd sda1 to /dev/sdc1 but cannot make the image file dd to the drive, i have tried partions (sda1.img to /dev/sdc1) and complete drives (sda.img /dev/sdc) with no luck.
[06:36] <reflect> anyone with AMD64, an ATI X800 (or similar) gfx card that has gotten dri and 3D to work correctly? I seem to be running into a rare bug (or I'm missing a step or something)
[06:36] <veldorzvizzerd> could anyone help me setting up a wireless PCI card driver on ubuntu?
[06:36] <ic56> Fawzib: sounds like you only care whether the things exist, not what type they are.  the command you proposed will work but remember to redirect its output -- like so: if [ type fn >/dev/null ] 
[06:36] <ic56>  then echo fn exists
[06:36] <ic56>  fi
[06:36] <echoo> hi.. anyone could help me setup Xgl on breezy?
[06:36] <reflect> I'm experiencing *exactly* this problem >> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33846081
[06:37] <ic56> Fawzib: spend some time reading the bash manpage.  There's lots of neat features to learn and you may discover one that is more efficient than type -- ie one that doesn't have the overhead of producing output.
[06:37] <hso> downloading.. it's a mighty big file..
[06:37] <Fawzib> ic56: yup, thats what im doing right now
[06:37] <echoo> it gives me an error saying that cant find libdrm.so.1
[06:39] <ic56> pizzadude: that sounds odd.  Could there be a problem with your mount point?  For starters, is it an empty directory before you mount on to it?
[06:39] <cA1mAn> should i encounter problems with dualbooting? i already have windows 2000 installed.
[06:40] <ic56> brb
[06:40] <cA1mAn> and also where is a GOOD TUTORIAL for dualbootinh
[06:40] <nalioth> cA1mAn: you should have no problems
[06:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cA1mAn about dualboot
[06:40] <azurehuesofblue> Isn't there a proggy that reads XChat to you through the speakers?
[06:40] <jcapote> is there a way to refresh the gnome applet selector without having to log off/ log on
[06:40] <jcapote> after installing applets
[06:40] <cA1mAn> thx, nalioth
[06:40] <Janno> Why the totem dont show subtitles? Help please
[06:40] <nalioth> jcapote: in a terminal, type "killall gnome-panel"
[06:41] <dolo> G'day.. I just have a quick question.   When I click on pretty much any item in the System -> Administration menu, it starts trying to run it then does nothing.   I get the impression that it wants the root user to run these programs, but it is not bringing up a dialogue asking for the root password.  Any ideas?
[06:41] <kingspawn> Fawzib: why do you need to check if a function has been defined?
[06:41] <jcapote> nalioth: that would just kill the gnome panel....?
[06:41] <yancheng> anyone here familiar with setuid?
[06:41] <pizzadude> ic56: its empty when mounted, i also mount under generic mount point /mnt/windows.. i can dd the drive to the drive just not the img file to the drive.  is there a special something that i am overlooking to create the img file? maybe it dont like generic file names like sda1.img?
[06:41] <reflect> yancheng: and the real question is.. ?
[06:42] <Fawzib> kingspawn: I'm making an init.d script and I want it to work in debian and ubuntu, want to check if the lsb init-functions exist, also breezy's log function is called log_begin_msg and dapper is log_daemon_msg. Maybe there is another way to do it.
[06:42] <nalioth> jcapote: i'm not familiar with what you are asking. when changes are made to the menus and such recycling the panel brings them into usage
[06:42] <cA1mAn> i have a 120 GB disk with ~80 GB of dara, atm it's ntfs, can i make a partition for UBUNTU installation + 30 GB ext3 disk of that WITHOUT LOSING ANY DATA (really important!)?
[06:42] <jcapote> nalioth: nevermind i actually didnt have to do anything, they magically appear there
[06:42] <thomas> hey there i was thinking is it posible to play any kind of games
[06:42] <epp> hso, you there?
[06:42] <hso> yes
[06:42] <kingspawn> Fawzib: check which distribution your are on might be easier?
[06:43] <veldorzvizzerd> hello, anyone know much about setting up wifi on ubuntu?
[06:43] <yggdrasil_> !dapper
[06:43] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:43] <hso>  he file is still downloading, it's only downloading at a max rate of 47.2kb/s :(
[06:43] <hso> the file**
[06:43] <ic56> pizzadude: Whoa!  this is a *windows* partition?!?
[06:44] <cA1mAn> i have a 120 GB disk with ~80 GB of data, atm it's ntfs, can i make a partition for UBUNTU installation + 30 GB ext3 disk of that WITHOUT LOSING ANY DATA (really important!)?
[06:44] <yancheng> reflect: i expect if the executable file owner is A. if i set the user id of that file to be on, even i login as B and execute that file, Linux still will think I am execute as A, right?
[06:44] <pizzadude> ic56: NO! its just a generec mount point.. its ext3 filesystem
[06:44] <Blippe> cA1mAn, yes...
[06:44] <reflect> yancheng: provided the file is a binary, and not a shellscript.. correct
[06:44] <epp> hso, k well msn me when its done.
[06:44] <schmirgo> does anyone know in which file i can turn off starting of hald at boottime?
[06:45] <cA1mAn> Blippe, so it's almost 100% sure?
[06:45] <epp> hso, msg*
[06:45] <yancheng> reflect: :O oh, must be binary, cannot be shellscript :O
[06:45] <hso> roger
[06:45] <Blippe> cA1mAn, but it noone can tell you it won't be able to break... some freak thing could happen
[06:45] <Blippe> close to 100%
[06:45] <dolo> Anyone?  I cannot open the drives on the desktop as they're owned by root, as well.. shouldn't it just ask me for the root password, to browse them?
[06:45] <yancheng> reflect: just now i wrote a shell script and print whoami :P
[06:45] <reflect> yancheng: heh, I ran into that one today..  it's cause when shellscripts are executed.. they write some gunk into a tempfile, which can be abused..  so I think they turned that off
[06:46] <reflect> yancheng: however, sudo is your friend
[06:46] <Fawzib> kingspawn: hmm, i guess I could check that but if [ "`test -f <func>`" = "function"  ]  works :)
[06:46] <Blippe> dolo, no, it shouldn't...
[06:46] <knight__> hi I have an averatec 1000
[06:46] <schmirgo> dolo, edit your fstab and add users to you cdrom drive ... maybe it helps
[06:46] <knight__> I need help with resolution
[06:46] <Blippe> you could run "sudo nautilus --no-desktop" in the windows you get when pressing alt-f2
[06:47] <jcapote> whats a good app to 100% my cpu
[06:47] <reflect> jcapote: www.distributed.net
[06:47] <kingspawn> Fawzib: nice
[06:47] <ompaul> jcapote, gcc and openoffice.org
[06:47] <epp> jcapote, i run amarok and it maxes out my cpu. im running a 433 mhz. ahah
[06:47] <reflect> jcapote: or seti at home
[06:47] <ic56> Fawzib: if you're developing for general consumption, you should also concern yourself with which is the most standard way and also which is the least CPU intensive way.
[06:48] <reflect> anyone knowledgable about amd64, ati and 3d? I get a black screen, searched around like crazy and found about 5 guys with the exact same problem as me..
[06:48] <ic56> pizzadude: dd doesn't care about the filename. It knows nothing of extensions or any other kind of automation.
[06:48] <Fawzib> kingspawn: oops its:  if ["`type -f <func>`" = "function" ] ; then whatever
[06:49] <aggarcia> hgsydye
[06:49] <ic56> pizzadude: Are any of the partitions you're copying primary partitions (/dev/hda1 through hda4)?
[06:50] <frank23> jcapote: a simple one      yes > /dev/null
[06:50] <kingspawn> Fawzib: hm, ic56 has a point. have you thought about having the script take a look at /etc/lsb-release?
[06:50] <kingspawn> Fawzib: not trying to be difficult, just thinking out loud, sort of
[06:51] <Fawzib> ic56: i'm starting a daemon I just want the messages to look well in ubuntu and work in debian, do you think CPU is an issue for only a startup message?
[06:51] <pppoe_dude> hi. are there any alternative linux-friendly ils directory servers other than ils.seconix.com
[06:52] <pppoe_dude> coz that one isn't working for me
[06:52] <ic56> Fawzib: CPU is always an issue.  Many little inefficiencies add up.
[06:52] <Hattori> keep getting this error
[06:52] <Hattori> installing jre
[06:52] <Hattori> http://pastebin.com/620302
[06:52] <pppoe_dude> "failed to bind to ils.seconix.com"
[06:52] <Hattori> what packages need i to install?
[06:52] <schmirgo> where for gods sake can i find the line where hald starts at boottime ? -.-
[06:52] <ompaul> Hattori, mixing rpm and debs is not the best of ideas
[06:52] <Healot> the latest kernel rocks... really saves power... my CPU on float up 1800MHz a few times in an hour :)
[06:53] <ompaul> Hattori, may I msg you?
[06:53] <pizzadude> ic56: so, if i say do dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/anotherdrive/sda1.img, it should create a exactly copy of the partition to that file, and vise/versa, but it not working from file to drive/partion. and i dont know how to check the contents of that file to make suere there is anything in there at all, other than the size of the file is consistant with the size of the partion reguardless of the amount of used space on that oarticular par
[06:53] <jcapote> i highly recomend everyone use the bubbling load monitor to monitor loads
[06:53] <jcapote> its so genius
[06:53] <Hattori> ompaul: ya
[06:53] <ic56> Fawzib: Ideally, seeing as this isn't an install script but a part of the installed package, you should have different copies of the script for each distro that needs different processing.  You could have a master copy from which you generate the variants with a preprocessor like cpp.
[06:54] <frank23> !tell Hattori about java
[06:55] <epp> anyone gotten limewire to morw with non sun java?
[06:55] <epp> anyone gotten limewire to work with non sun java?
[06:55] <Fawzib> ic56: ok, I'm not very good at this, is actually my first deb package, so I don't know much that's why I'm asking :)
[06:56] <ic56> pizzadude: dd copies blocks, sequentially, as many blocks as you tell it. When you tell it to copy a device, it starts reading at the beginning and keeps going till the device driver in the kernel returns and end-of-file to it.  The driver does this when you try to read past the end of the partition.  That's why the size of the output file is alw same.
[06:56] <schmirgo> epp, no, not lime wire... but azureus with an ibm-java-1.5
[06:56] <trappist> pizzadude: you should be able to mount the image file with -o loop
[06:57] <schmirgo> epp, it should work with non sun too...
[06:57] <epp> schmirgo, yeah i have IBM java, but limewire errors :(. But i guess ill get azureus.
[06:57] <ic56> Fawzib: asking is always a good idea.  There's always more to learn, no matter how experienced one is!
[06:57] <pizzadude> trappist! howdey!
[06:58] <void^> isn't ibm java still at 1.3.1 or so?
[06:58] <kingspawn> Fawzib: the key word in computer environments of any kind is "portability"
[06:58] <trappist> heya pizzadude
[06:58] <Healot> ibm java is 1.5 now
[06:58] <ic56> pizzadude: now, you say you copy it to x.img .  Presumably you subsequently copy it from there to the actual partition location?
[06:58] <epp> Healot, i have 1.5.
[06:58] <frank23> epp: limewire and azureus are not on the same network.
[06:58] <void^> ohh.. it seems i am in need of serious catching up
[06:59] <pizzadude> ic56: exactly
[06:59] <frank23> epp: instead of limewire, why not frostwire
[06:59] <schmirgo> but i have also experienced problems with eclipse sdk and ibmjava on ppc
[06:59] <frank23> !frpstwire
[06:59] <ubotu> frank23: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:59] <frank23> !frostwire
[06:59] <ic56> pizzadude: Why are you doing the copy in two steps instead of one?
[06:59] <epp> frank23, i know, azureus is on torrent and limewire is on gnutella
[06:59] <epp> frank23, is it in the repositorys?
[07:00] <sfar-ubu> wich is "the best" bittorrent client? i'd prefer some kind of gui ;)
[07:00] <pizzadude> because i want o copy to a cd and then be able to fix/clone the drive again later, like a backup
[07:00] <Healot> J2SE Mustang beta 2 is already out
[07:00] <frank23> epp: not sure. never used any of those, I use appolon for gnutella
[07:00] <Healot> sfar-ubu, gnome-bittorrent :)
[07:00] <ic56> pizzadude: here's the thing.  while filesystems are purely linear, partition headers aren't.  I wonder if that might be the problem.
[07:00] <epp> sfar-ubu, azareus is #1 for me. but you need java. so i use ktorrent for now.
[07:00] <Healot> the best/safest JDK to deploy is always Sun's
[07:01] <pizzadude> ic56: or for example right now i have the target drive installed in the computer but cannot copy the img file to it to make a backup cloned drive.
[07:01] <ompaul> Healot, the most non free java is suns
[07:01] <ompaul> :)
[07:01] <reflect> ompaul: if you're just going to use it, who cares?
[07:01] <Healot> yeah
[07:01] <sfar-ubu> epp, why dont you install java then?
[07:01] <h0nus> hello
[07:01] <h0nus> i'm back!
[07:01] <sfar-ubu> \o/
[07:01] <h0nus> lol
[07:02] <Healot>  I didn't say it's free(dom), but it is avail at no cost
[07:02] <epp> sfar-ubu, i did... im just to lazy to get it haha.
[07:02] <sfar-ubu> =D
[07:02] <epp> sfar-ubu, ktorrent is verynice.
[07:02] <h0nus> i need a quick favor: can someone tell me what the tar command is for unpacking a .deb package?
[07:02] <ompaul> costless software as I heard it referred to last week
[07:02] <pizzadude> ic56: well, i am not exactly sure what you mean, but, i can dd an active drive to an active drive just not from x.img to drive. so i am dumb(founded)
[07:02] <ic56> pizzadude: did you try fsck against the target?  Presumably there was no problem if mount succeeded, but it might reassure us that things are as we think they are.
[07:02] <knight__> hi
[07:03] <reflect> hm.. reading the irc-faq..  it says not to repeat questions..   well, how long is that valid? no one seems to be able to answer mine..
[07:03] <sfar-ubu> i have a pretty slow computer so ktorrent might be better then?
[07:03] <knight__> I am having problems with resolution my laptop is a averatec 1000
[07:03] <veldorzvizzerd> hey Healot, I managed to get ndisgtk running - and have the CD in which the driver for my wireless card is supposed to be, could you help me out with setting it up from here?
[07:03] <Healot> h0nus, dpkg --extract, this extracts but does not install
[07:03] <epp> h0nus, , "sudo dpkg -i "package name""
[07:03] <ic56> pizzadude: you didn't answer my earlier question: are teh partitions primary or secondary?
[07:03] <epp> h0nus, mine installed it.
[07:03] <h0nus> o
[07:03] <ompaul> reflect, I would say that 12/15 mins is not bad - you want people who might be not reading the screen to go again
[07:03] <h0nus> ok
[07:03] <ompaul> !enter
[07:03] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:03] <h0nus> thanks!
[07:04] <Healot> veldorzvizzerd, do you see any wifi interface on ndisgtk?
[07:04] <Healot> after installing the driver?
[07:04] <Blippe> !ubuntu.se
[07:04] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Blippe
[07:04] <reflect> ompaul: appreciated.
[07:04] <ompaul> !se
[07:04] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[07:04] <veldorzvizzerd> I haven't installed the driver yet, just installed ndisgtk
[07:04] <Blippe> greek?
[07:04] <h0nus> kk
[07:04] <Healot> bleh
[07:04] <ompaul> gr
[07:04] <h0nus> got class will be back alter =)
[07:04] <daflat> hey all
[07:04] <epp> Healot, what is J2SE Mustang beta you speak of?
[07:04] <epp> !frostwirte
[07:04] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, epp
[07:04] <veldorzvizzerd> I got the cd with the driver in it but in the linux folder theres like, so many files on it, what should I look for?
[07:04] <pizzadude> ic56: no i didnt fsck: and the partitions are primary
[07:04] <epp> !frostwire
[07:04] <ic56> reflect: in this channel, I think repeats are ok -- but wait a while until new people join the channel.
[07:05] <daflat> am having major problems setting up Samba on my desktop pc
[07:05] <sfar-ubu> epp: will ktorrent work flawlessly under gnome?
[07:05] <Healot> J2SE 1.6, the next release of JDK/JRE
[07:05] <epp> sfar-ubu, it should....
[07:05] <daflat> am writing this on dapper in VMware
[07:05] <epp> Healot, is there a PPC install?
[07:05] <reflect> ic56: oh, you mean every 15 seconds then? I mean, when aren't there new users joining? hehehe ;)  j/k, I'll wait 15-30 minutes and hope for the best..
[07:05] <Healot> sure...
[07:06] <kingspawn> i have turned off joins and quits in my client, they are just wild
[07:06] <Healot> mac? nay...
[07:06] <ompaul> reflect, the logic is this, not only that there are new people, but if someone is not looking then 12/15 mins kinda allows the readers change
[07:06] <daflat> well I set-up samba is was working fine....I could stream video from my windows laptop
[07:06] <Healot> "ppc" isn't in my dictionary :)
[07:06] <epp> Healot, hmmm.
[07:06] <daflat> and then it stopped working, and I can't see any of the other pc's on the network
[07:06] <daflat> or any of the share
[07:06] <daflat> s
[07:06] <daflat> am stumped
[07:06] <ic56> pizzadude: Are you sure the problem only occurs when you do it in 2 copies as opposed to 1?  There must be other factors.
[07:07] <Healot> mac users are doomed to 1.4.2 :)
[07:07] <reflect> ompaul: yeah, I'm sticking with your advice there.. this channel is too big to know who's new and who isn't (seeing as I'm new here)
[07:07] <pizzadude> ic56: yep, only when i do 2 copies and not 1.
[07:07] <ompaul> reflect, did you ask a question?
[07:07] <veldorzvizzerd> Healot, in the driver disk theres a file called ifcfg-ra0 - would that be the one to install or?
[07:07] <jcapote> anyone know a good wallpaper source?
[07:08] <nub3> Hi
[07:08] <Healot> veldorzvizzerd, read the CD content first :)
[07:08] <axnotizes> this is kind of off topic, but does anyone know the IRC command to list all the channel you have joined?
[07:08] <ic56> pizzadude: are you copying to the same target partit in both cases?
[07:09] <veldorzvizzerd> how, like - via the terminal or just look in the readme files in there?
[07:09] <veldorzvizzerd> or do I have to run ndisgtk after installing it?
[07:09] <ompaul> reflect, did you actually look at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[07:09] <reflect> yes..  I have a problem with a pure 64bit amd installation and ATI gfx..  3d/dri simply will not work, despite having followed the guides to the letter (I think)..  after searching, I've found a number of people experiencing the exact same problem, blank screen, nothing useful in the logs..  described here http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33846081
[07:09] <pizzadude> ic56: yep
[07:09] <pizzadude> ic56: but, trappist may have pointed out a workaround for now. if i mount the file -o loop /someplace then dd will allow me to copy that back to a partition.. i will check it out.
[07:09] <_jason> axnotizes: might depend on your client
[07:09] <nub3> When i type apt-get install xyz i get the error E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied
[07:09] <Healot> it's your CD... don;t tell me i know exactly the content of your CD? are you kidding me, veldorzvizzerd ?
[07:09] <nub3> what doen it mean
[07:09] <nub3> ?
[07:09] <kingspawn> nub3: got synaptic open?
[07:10] <axnotizes> _jason: i am using ircii.
[07:10] <Healot> figure that out on your own, veldorzvizzerd... :)
[07:10] <veldorzvizzerd> lol, sorry healot, I kinda meant coz like, earlier you said to run ndisgtk after I installed ndisgtk, what command do I use to do so?
[07:10] <nub3> kingspawn:yes that too give me the same error
[07:10] <_jason> axnotizes: /window list, works in irsii.  Don't know about ircii
[07:10] <Healot> veldorzvizzerd, do you know where the XP driver sits?
[07:10] <nub3> err not same
[07:10] <veldorzvizzerd> yep
[07:11] <reflect> ompaul: yes, I did look there, I've been following it for 3 revisions of the the ATI driver release now
[07:11] <Healot> run "ndisgtk" then
[07:11] <axnotizes> _jason: it works. thanks.
[07:11] <nub3> Synaptic says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:11] <kaynos> Hello all.  anyone experts on finding libncurses5-dev package?  I can't seem to get it installed or updated.. Trying to compile asterisk..
[07:11] <veldorzvizzerd> what command do I use to run ndisgtk?
[07:11] <pizzadude> ic56: VIAGRA!  trappist's way works.  workaround but it works all the same to me
[07:11] <ic56> pizzadude: could you paste the 2 command lines you used for the problem case?  Perhaps if I see it, I'll notice something about which I didn't think to ask.
[07:11] <Healot> "ndisgtk" the name tells all
[07:11] <veldorzvizzerd> heh, cheers
[07:12] <ompaul> reflect, okay so I have this idea that you need to run the graphics with 32bit because of a lack of drivers that work at 64 but I could be wrong so you might want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot don't  know if it can be done some other way - is there a 64bit graphics driver?
[07:12] <veldorzvizzerd> thanx Healot :)
[07:12] <pizzadude> ic56: i will past to you in PM
[07:12] <Healot> it is System->Administration->Wireless Network Drivers
[07:12] <reflect> ompaul: I followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589 that also has instructions for AMD64
[07:12] <nub3> and when i run dpkg --configure -a i get the error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[07:12] <nub3> Aborted
[07:12] <veldorzvizzerd> thanks, found it ^^
[07:12] <nub3> One error after another :(
[07:13] <ic56> pizzadude: spell out the 2nd one please.
[07:13] <reflect> ompaul: yeah, they distribute pure 64bit drivers.. and many reports that it works fine, I'd love to find one and compare my settings with theirs.
[07:13] <kaynos> how do I find or install a package that is listed as non-available?
[07:13] <nub3> Anyone knows how to get around this error
[07:13] <nub3> ?
[07:13] <Pupeno> where do I get decss for ubuntu ?
[07:13] <ompaul> reflect, so request on the mailing list or forums
[07:13] <_jason> !dvd
[07:13] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[07:13] <kaynos> trying to install libncurses5-dev
[07:13] <deizi> humm almost working perfectly ubuntu + kde... just need Azureus to work, and some plugins...
[07:14] <ompaul> reflect, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[07:14] <_jason> !info libncurses5-dev
[07:14] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: (Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.4-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 1218 kB, Installed size: 5656 kB
[07:14] <_jason> kaynos: it's in breezy's main repository
[07:15] <nub3> Ohh ok apt-get is with sudo apt-get
[07:15] <epp> how do i decompress a tar?
[07:15] <epp> and a gzip
[07:15] <_jason> epp: together or seperately?
[07:15] <kaynos> _jason:  I get a package not available when :  sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[07:15] <kaynos> Reading package lists... Done
[07:15] <kaynos> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:15] <kaynos> Package libncurses5-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:15] <kaynos> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:15] <kaynos> is only available from another source
[07:15] <ardchoille> epp: what's the filename end in?
[07:15] <epp> _jason seperately
[07:15] <kaynos> E: Package libncurses5-dev has no installation candidate
[07:15] <Healot> "man tar" is a good start
[07:15] <ic56> pizzadude: and dd doesn't report any errors in the problem case and the number blocks copied is same in both invocations for the failing case and in the succeeding case?
[07:15] <_jason> kaynos: did you enable the main repository?
[07:15] <epp> tar, i already decomressed it from gzip
[07:15] <nub3> epp:tar -zxvf xyz.tar
[07:16] <_jason> epp: gunzip file.gzip and tar xf file.tar
[07:16] <Blippe> !gr
[07:16] <ubotu> Elate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi
[07:16] <pizzadude> ic56: no errors, blocks copied are same both ways
[07:16] <purplefeltangel> where do i find my home folder from root?
[07:16] <_jason> purplefeltangel: by ``my'' you mean your normal user?
[07:16] <purplefeltangel> _jason: i guess
[07:16] <ardchoille> purplefeltangel: /home/<your-username>
[07:17] <kaynos> _jason:  /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:17] <kaynos> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[07:17] <nub3> How do i mount my extended partitions in ubuntu?
[07:17] <purplefeltangel> ahhh thank you
[07:17] <purplefeltangel> sorry i am such a n00b
[07:17] <_jason> kaynos: those are breezy updates
[07:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell kaynos about easysource
[07:18] <iGotNoTime> how do I get Gdesklets to start on boot autmatically?
[07:18] <alekz> hi, i have a problem, my cups is not working well, i go to "system > administration > Printing" and it says that can not conect to cups server, but i look into /etc/init.d/cupsys and server is running, can some one help me ?? i just cant print
[07:18] <_jason> iGotNoTime: system > prefernces > sessions > startup
[07:18] <iGotNoTime> thank you jason_  :)
[07:18] <kaynos> thx _Jason..
[07:19] <Hoxzer> guys guys oh yeah, guys
[07:19] <Hoxzer> GDesklet
[07:19] <Hoxzer> lmsersors wont work in gdesklet
[07:19] <iGotNoTime> hello highvoltage  :)
[07:19] <c0rrupt`> What is the key combination to exit from a screen session without closing it
[07:20] <_jason> c0rrupt`: ctrl-a d, if you do ctrl-a ?, you will get a list
[07:20] <knight__> I am having problems with resolution
[07:20] <c0rrupt`> thanks jason
[07:20] <_jason> knight__: what problems?
[07:20] <knight__> I have a averatec 1000 laptop
[07:20] <knight__> and the display sucks
[07:20] <_jason> !enter
[07:21] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:21] <Juleps79> Hola!
[07:21] <reflect> ompaul: thank you, mail sent.
[07:21] <Juleps79> Ayuda en Espaol????
[07:21] <ompaul> !es
[07:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:21] <Juleps79> gracias!
[07:21] <festepa> hola a todos
[07:21] <knight__> hola
[07:21] <knight__> lol
[07:21] <cA1mAn> i have to hds (40 and 120 GB), both ntfs, and want to install ubuntu on the 120GB one. Is it possible to resize it and to make 20 GB ext3 without problems?
[07:21] <kingspawn> cA1mAn: yessir
[07:21] <festepa> es la primera vez que entro
[07:21] <_jason> !es
[07:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:22] <festepa> hay conectado alguien de casariche
[07:22] <ompaul> knight__, you have been asked not to use the enter key as punctuation, please don't it spams the channel, get your full idea out on one line thanks
[07:22] <festepa> o de algn pueblo de Sevilla
[07:22] <kingspawn> !es
[07:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:22] <cA1mAn> festeba: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:22] <kingspawn> once again.
[07:22] <jcapote> how can i change my font colors in gnome
[07:22] <_jason> festepa: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:22] <cA1mAn> hehe
[07:22] <ic56> pizzadude: well, I'm stumped. the only thing I can think of is that the partition info itself really shouldn't be copied and doing so could cause trouble.  The actual filesystem begins a few blocks into the partition and one should skip the initial blocks both in the source and target.  The fact that it works in the direct copy case is really confusing.  I wonder if Linux dd may have special code to "do the right thing" wh
[07:23] <hcatlin> So, I have an ubuntu server (no video card) and I want to be able to run applications remotely, but I don't want gnome and all of the trapping. Just GTK and Xwindows. Is that possible?
[07:23] <ic56> pizzadude: that would make sense, given that there are no devices for the filesystems proper in Linux -- there are in other unix flavours.
[07:23] <nub3> I can mount my ntfs drive but not access it
[07:23] <nub3> :(
[07:23] <_jason> nub3: permission problems?
[07:23] <kingspawn> nub3: mount it with umask=0222
[07:23] <hcatlin> So, how can I get xwindow forwarding working without installing the whole desktop shebang?
[07:24] <nub3> yup
[07:24] <nub3> tried sudo too
[07:24] <IcemanV9> knight__: you have asked about display resolution last night. did you try to play with a few options such as vertrefresh?
[07:24] <anstei> hcatlin, i don't know whether 5.10 does support that already, but dapper definitely has a server install without desktop managers
[07:24] <nub3> ohh ok
[07:25] <hcatlin> anstei: Breezy does. But, I am running dapper, and it is already the "server install"
[07:25] <nub3> unmount is not a command ?
[07:25] <nub3> oOOoo
[07:25] <wawa_> umount
[07:25] <hcatlin> anstei: I have it installed with no desktop stuff, but I want to just add what I need for xwindow forewarding.
[07:25] <xinfinityx> heya, does anyone know anything about xsane?
[07:25] <ompaul> hcatlin, you need to run X ain't done it on xorg have done it on xfree (and it was a couple of years ago)
[07:25] <xinfinityx> I'm having a bit of a problem
[07:26] <pizzadude> ic56: well, i am glad that i am not the only one left scratching his head :)  i mounted the x.img file and dd'd the contents of the mount to the partion and it matches partition to partition. i will check it in a while to make sure it boots proper, if it does, mission acomoplished good enough for me :0
[07:26] <knight__> no
[07:26] <kingspawn> hcatlin: if its a server, why do you want x?
[07:27] <hcatlin> kingspawn: so I can run administrative applications x-window forwarded over SSH.
[07:27] <pizzadude> ic56:  i will let you know how it goes when i find out.
[07:27] <Healot> xinfinityx, state your scanner model.... http://www.sane-project.org/ -- check whether your scanner compatible with sane
[07:27] <knight__> how do I use vetre fresh
[07:27] <ic56> pizzadude: I'm doing some doc searching to see if I can confirm my theory.  I'll /msg you.
[07:27] <reflect> kingspawn: so that users may login, set the DISPLAY and run software
[07:27] <xinfinityx> it's perfectly compatible, it's the frontend I'm having problems with
[07:27] <kingspawn> hm, i see.
[07:27] <pizzadude> ic56: 10-4
[07:27] <Healot> really
[07:28] <IcemanV9> knight__: please check out @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:28] <Healot> run "sane-find-scanner" will you, xinfinityx ?
[07:28] <knight__> IcemanV9  how do i use vertrefresh
[07:28] <xinfinityx> I just need to know how to resize the scanning area, because at the moment, it's stuck at 9.98cm x 14.70cm
[07:28] <knight__> thanks
[07:29] <nub3> kingspawn:How do i use umask=0222 ?
[07:29] <IcemanV9> knight__: more info @ "man xorg.conf" as well
[07:30] <kingspawn> nub3: are you mounting "by hand" or via fstab?
[07:30] <nub3> kingspawn:fstab
[07:30] <knight__> thanks
[07:31] <kingspawn> nub then you just add umask=0222 to the options part of your mount-line
[07:32] <Healot> xinfinityx, mmmkay... what's you scanner then?
[07:32] <nestorm> hi every one
[07:32] <scotth> anyone in here familiar with alsa and getting its software mixer to work?
[07:32] <xinfinityx> Healot: HP PSC 1205
[07:33] <nestorm> scotth: it depends, what's up to your soundcard?
[07:33] <scotth> nestorm, whats up to my soundcard?
[07:33] <racoon> hi there guys
[07:33] <scotth> are you asking what my soundcard is? or something else?
[07:33] <Healot> xinfinityx, try to edit "/etc/sane.d/hp.conf"
[07:34] <nestorm> mmm, sorry scotth
[07:34] <nestorm> I mean, you have a problem with your soundcard, do you?
[07:35] <racoon> question ;)  : I try to install my logitech quickcam messenger 046d:08f6 , appearantly I made it to compile quickcam and load it, syslog also tells me it's detecting the cam when replugging and tells it has already loaded the needed modules, but I do not get any image from my cam
[07:35] <scotth> its cool
[07:35] <phpq> javascript:alert(/^((ht|f)tp:\/\/)?(www.)?(.+)$/.test('g')); is true, why?
[07:35] <scotth> Im trying to be able to play music while using team speak... my music is playing through esd and I understand that alsa supports dmix, but I can't get it to use it and provide multiple output
[07:35] <phpq> ignore that :)
[07:36] <nub3> kingspaw:Now do i auto mount the drives at startup?
[07:36] <nub3> How*
[07:36] <nub3> srry
[07:36] <xinfinityx> Healot: ok, got that up
[07:36] <kenas> hi
[07:36] <kenas> i got wine working out fine..
[07:36] <nestorm> esd is quite outdated, isn't it?
[07:36] <nestorm> you better use gstreamer
[07:36] <kenas> but i need to add some libraries for certain programs..
[07:36] <kenas> how can add them up ?
[07:36] <kenas> can i just copy and paste those dll
[07:36] <Healot> xinfinityx, btw, open up xsane preference/// see if there any image size setting there...
[07:37] <scotth> if I use gstreamer then I only get one output to the sound card
[07:37] <kenas> or i need to register them as well ?
[07:37] <nestorm> scotth: how comes?
[07:37] <scotth> plus my prefered music player is muine and it only uses 0.8.0
[07:37] <xinfinityx> Healot: I've had a poke around in there and couldn't find anything, I'll have another look though
[07:37] <Me> Hi
[07:37] <Me> Can u tell me when come the next relase of ubuntu please ?
[07:37] <nestorm> wich model is your soundcard?
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell Me about dapper
[07:38] <scotth> cause muine goes through gstreamer 0.8 and then I have gstreamer to use esd... when I set it to alsa I can only play one stream at a time
[07:38] <holycow> guys, i'm staying at a hotel where the network connection requires that i switch the network card to 10 half duplex
[07:38] <holycow> i've never heard of this before, usually switches handle that automatically
[07:38] <holycow> can this be done manually on linux?
[07:38] <jaek> does the ubuntu kernel have the ext2online patch?
[07:38] <scotth> nestorm, Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> Me: June 1.
[07:38] <reflect> holycow: ethtool can do this for you
[07:38] <holycow> reflect: thanks bro!
[07:38] <Me> Thx tonyyarusso :)
[07:38] <nestorm> scotth: and which kernel module is loaded?
[07:39] <dra> !
[07:39] <ubotu> dra: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:39] <Me> It's so long i'm waiting waiting .... :p
[07:39] <dra> eh damn x-chat, sorry about that ^^
[07:39] <scotth> snd_ens1371
[07:39] <reflect> holycow: no problem..  just know that you need to set 1) speed 2) duplex often at the same time
[07:39] <dra> it finished connecting to freenode and changed to that tab while I was typing that "!" ;)
[07:39] <xinfinityx> Healot: hey, nvm, I got it... It was in the advanced setting dialog
[07:39] <ic56> pizzadude: did you, in both cases, have both filesystems mounted?  I ask because that would mean that you had two filesystems with the same unique FS id simultaneously mounted.  That shouldn't work...
[07:40] <xinfinityx> Healot: thanks anyway ;)
[07:40] <shutdown> Hello everybody!! Hello _Jason !!!!
[07:40] <Healot> duh~
[07:40] <axnotizes> hello?
[07:40] <nub3> Grrr Linux does not play mp3
[07:40] <alp_> what was the url for autoconfig of my sources.list?
[07:40] <nub3> ?
[07:40] <shutdown> What's the off topic channel?
[07:40] <_jason> !mp3
[07:40] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:40] <ic56> pizzadude: also: it should go without asking but... the filesystem being copied was either not mounted or mounted read-only, right?
[07:40] <_jason> !offtopic
[07:40] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:40] <nestorm> scotth: did you configure that or did ubuntu do it?
[07:40] <pizzadude> ic56: no the target was not mounted
[07:40] <shutdown> #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[07:40] <shutdown> ok
[07:40] <shutdown> thnx
[07:41] <scotth> configure what? the driver? naw its a stock dapper install... very little tweaking with the hardware(which makes me very happy)
[07:41] <nub3> heh what player do i get which will play mp3?
[07:41] <alp_> what was the url for autoconfig of my sources.list?
[07:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell nub3 about mp3
[07:41] <jaek> can i extend my root lvm partition and just run ext2extend? or does the kernel have it already? or... do i need to reboot with the CD in rescue mode to do it?
[07:41] <Blippe> !mp3
[07:41] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:41] <Blippe> !source-o-matic
[07:41] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:41] <nestorm> scotth: that's great, but anyway, I don't know what could happen to your sound
[07:41] <pizzadude> ic56: no the source drive was mounted and is (rw)
[07:41] <ic56> pizzadude: for the first question, I don't mean during but after the copy.  Surely you mounted the target -- how else would you know there was a problem?
[07:41] <nestorm> scotth: are you runnig gnome or kde?
[07:42] <scotth> gnome
[07:42] <pizzadude> ic56: yes i mounted after the copt to check it out
[07:43] <Healot> why people don't checkout the most popular audio/mp3 player in the Unix world? hello "xmms"!
[07:43] <Hexidigital> !xmms
[07:43] <ubotu> I heard xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:43] <scotth> I tried asking in #alsa, but it seems dead
[07:43] <Healot> salsa tastes good though
[07:43] <scotth> but I found somewhere that dmix should be enabled by default after 1.0.9 and I have 1.0.10 so I'm not entirely sure whats happening
[07:43] <ic56> pizzadude: if the source drive was mounted rw, then there could have been activity on it.  This means it could become inconsistent durint the copy (in fact, I would be surprised if there *weren't* problems).  In your case, you might have gotten luck with the copy once -- the time you did it in one command.
[07:44] <racoon> solved the problem myself, thanks anyways guys ;D
[07:44] <pizzadude> ic56: i see
[07:45] <macdonsp> Hello, are there any Ubuntu livecds for PowerPC that have usable compilers on the disk?
[07:45] <nub3> I was trying to install wine and got  dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[07:45] <nub3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[07:45] <nub3> :(
[07:45] <Healot> macdonsp, nay... try knoppix, macdonsp :)
[07:45] <pizzadude> ic56: i will shut 'er down to see if i was successfull. will let you know shortly
[07:45] <ic56> pizzadude: there were no errors during the mount?
[07:45] <pizzadude> none
[07:45] <macdonsp> Healot: the ppc of knoppix is really old
[07:45] <Healot> yeah
[07:46] <Healot> unfortunately, ubuntu's live CD doesn't have compiler tools
[07:46] <macdonsp> Healot: Is it possible to remaster a livecd without a ubuntu system
[07:46] <macdonsp> Healot: on os x
[07:46] <Healot> yes... if you know how?
[07:46] <ic56> pizzadude: and, in both cases, after the copy, you finished by mounting the target, so that both source and target were simultaneously mounted?
[07:46] <mzv> hello
[07:46] <nub3> what is dpkg why does it create and error always
[07:46] <nub3> ?
[07:46] <macdonsp> Healot: I haven't done it before but I can probably figure it out if there is info somewhere
[07:47] <macdonsp> Any suggestions?
[07:47] <Healot> you can copy the image... change the tree a bit there and here... and remaster it
[07:47] <Healot> knoppix's site a good start
[07:47] <MrRio> nub3, dpkg installs software, you must run it as root, sudo dpkg -i <package_to_install>
[07:47] <keita> salut
[07:47] <macdonsp> Healot: Okay, I will check it out. Thanks
[07:47] <pizzadude> ic56: ummm yeah.. i now see how that could be a problem
[07:47] <Healot> salut keita, parlez francais?
[07:48] <t35t0r> how do i flush the queue in cups?
[07:48] <nub3> MrRio:Then what is apt-get ?
[07:48] <keita> wi et toi healot
[07:48] <Healot> je ne parle pas francais :)
[07:48] <jaek> so...... anyone know if the 2.6.12-10-386 kernel has online ext2 resizing support?
[07:49] <keita> you speak english
[07:49] <Healot> sure
[07:49] <K-Zodron> Hello, I have 2 hdd's installed on my computer, where can I see if Ubuntu detects the slave one?
[07:49] <keita> do you use ubuntu*
[07:49] <kingspawn> nub3: in short: apt-get downloads packages and installs them automatically, also downloading all the stuff they need to work. dpkg can install a package if you have downloaded it yourself, but wont download all the other stuff it needs automatically
[07:50] <macdonsp> Healot: Is it possible to install programs after booting into the LiveCD environment?
[07:50] <macdonsp> Healot: Not to the hard drive, but the ramdisk
[07:50] <_jason> macdonsp: yes
[07:50] <nub3> ohh ok i thought apt-get downloads and aptitude installs
[07:50] <Healot> yeah... if you can do some scripting... oh to isntalll huge files... i think that pretty possible, if you have disk access/huge RAM
[07:51] <pizzadude> ic56:  nogo.. :( i do see your poing about both drives being mounted at same time.. i will have to try to duplicate the drive using rescue cd or something else.
[07:51] <macdonsp> _jason: how do i do that. i downloaded the livedvd so i have a ton of packages available
[07:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell macdonsp about synaptic
[07:51] <pizzadude> ic56: however, i would say that progress was made here today :)
[07:51] <ic56> pizzadude: an alternative that would avoid the simultanous mount problem is to use dump/restore.
[07:52] <macdonsp> jason_: thanks i will check out synaptic. i googled it and found the info
[07:53] <Healot> the live DVD, huh
[07:53] <sohmestra> I added a module to /etc/modules, but it doesnt seem to be honored at boot time
[07:53] <sohmestra> i can manually load the module
[07:54] <ic56> pizzadude: they'll be a little slower, since dump effectively acts as a defragmentor in this type of setup -- it reads blocks in the logical order rather than the physical order.  Also, you'd have to mkfs at the target end before using restore -- still more work.  On the pro-side, the dumps would be a lot smaller -- unused disk blocks wouldn't get copied.
[07:54] <sohmestra> Any reason why that would be?
[07:54] <Healot> the modules doesn't exists, corrupted, unloadable? sohmestra
[07:55] <Healot> check it out with "dmesg"
[07:55] <ic56> pizzadude: the other advantage of a dump file over a dd image, of course, is that you can (a) extract individual files from it and (b) restore into a different size partition -- ie a smaller filesystem, if necessary.
[07:55] <reflect> or by hand first with 'modprobe module-name' and then check dmesg
[07:55] <sohmestra> Healot: I can load the module manually, and the hardware then works. It just doesnt seem to be loaded at boot time
[07:56] <ic56> pizzadude: or take advantage of a bigger filesystem which, again, dd won't let you do -- you can dump into a bigger partition but the FS would still think it's in a small one.
[07:56] <Healot> sohmestra, what module would that be, a userspace, or kernel space?
[07:56] <sohmestra> it's not tied to a particular kernel either. I've got 3 different kernels, and regardless of which one I boot, I see this behavior
[07:57] <sohmestra> Healot: its a network card driver: bnx2
[07:57] <Healot> did you boot different kernels?
[07:57] <Healot> which kernel did you compile it against?
[07:58] <fl0ydz_> highvoltage, can anyone help me?
[07:58] <fl0ydz_> ops
[07:58] <sohmestra> Healot: I didnt compile it. Its provided as part of the ubuntu kernel packges
[07:58] <fl0ydz_> i mena hi
[07:58] <Healot> what package the modules is installed from?
[07:59] <graveson> how do you manage raid devices and disks with ubuntu
[07:59] <Healot> what's the line did you add anyways?
[07:59] <Stork> how do i set an environmental variable? like, a permentant version of 'export'
[07:59] <sohmestra> Healot: but i've seen the same behavior with the following kernels: vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686-smp, vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386, vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386
[08:00] <pizzadude> ic56: cool thats definitly something i will try out
[08:00] <fl0ydz_> how can i kill the x11 server to install the nividia diplasy package?
[08:00] <s|k> what's a good javascript IDE in linux?
[08:00] <Healot> what's the line did you add anyways? sohmestra
[08:01] <pizzadude> ic56: i am relatively new to linux, i knew that dd was an option but didnt know that there was another option available.  i will for sure try this out
[08:01] <sohmestra> Healot: my /etc/modules:   http://pastebin.com/620423
[08:01] <sohmestra> Healot: the line i added was: bnx2
[08:01] <reflect> (you know you can actually highlight lines with pastebin, right?)
[08:02] <holycow> *hmmm*
[08:02] <Healot> it's a network card right? wireless/wired ethernet?
[08:02] <holycow> how do you guys encrypt data on usb memory sticks?  is there a transparent way to do it?
[08:02] <sohmestra> Healot: wired.
[08:02] <sohmestra> david@gorilla:~$ find /lib/modules -iname bnx2.ko
[08:02] <sohmestra>  /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/bnx2.ko
[08:02] <sohmestra> err..whoops
[08:03] <sohmestra>  /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686-smp/kernel/drivers/net/bnx2.ko
[08:03] <sohmestra> anyway, i meant to show that the modules exist
[08:03] <ic56> pizzadude: the other advantage with dump is that it is less susceptible to corruption when being run against a live (mounted rw) filesystem.
[08:03] <reflect> another way of doing that, would be 'locate bnx2.ko'
[08:03] <Stork> how do i set an environmental variable? like, a permentant version of 'export'
[08:03] <reflect> faster, I'm sure
[08:03] <pizzadude> ic56: awsome just installed dump, checking it out now
[08:04] <polpak> Stork, add it to your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[08:04] <sohmestra> reflect: yeah, I happened to forget the highlighting thing though
[08:05] <Healot> you need alias in /etc/modules, like this "alias eth0 bnx2"
[08:06] <sohmestra> Healot: if so, that's new, and the existing entries shouldn't be working either.
[08:07] <sohmestra> Healot: I think you may be thinking of /etc/modprobe.d/aliases or something
[08:08] <sohmestra> I'm using breezy, which was upgraded from hoary
[08:08] <sohmestra> is the use of /etc/modules deprecated, or obsolete?
[08:09] <AndyA> hi people! I've just installed ubuntu and I have a problem: it booted once, but when I restarted (on it's request) it fails to start greeting screen. Can anyone point me to a help recourse?
[08:10] <Healot> try adding "alias eth0 bnx2" to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[08:11] <sohmestra> Healot: I'll give that a whirl, thanks
[08:11] <bertos> hello
[08:12] <ron_> hello bertos
[08:12] <bertos> anybody ever tried to make "ubuntu" from "debian testin" through changes in sources.list??
[08:12] <Healot> sohmestra, btw "ifconfig -a"
[08:13] <Healot> check if eth0 exists or not
[08:13] <bertos> is this possible?
[08:13] <na7e> nein!
[08:13] <na7e> nein!
[08:13] <na7e> erg, what?
[08:14] <Healot> possible but  it'll break your ubuntu's installation
[08:14] <AndyA> it reported failure in name resolution (but somehow I don't think that's the problem)
[08:14] <na7e> i'm hearing problems people, lemme hear em!
[08:14] <na7e> i can help :)
[08:14] <Healot> sohmestra, load the module manually first, next "ifconfig -a"/"dmesg" to figure out what does it changes...
[08:15] <bertos> na7e, that 'nein!' was to my question?
[08:16] <sohmestra> Healot: it doesnt exist until i load the module
[08:16] <sohmestra> Healot: and configure the interface
[08:16] <sohmestra> rebooting...seeya on the flip side.
[08:17] <Healot> ok, what interface exists after you loaded the module?
[08:18] <graveson> anyone know how i can manager a raid0 maxtor drive
[08:19] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[08:19] <linuxboyfriend> how to change splash screens?
[08:21] <deizi> anyone usin xmms-last.fm plugin here?
[08:22] <sohmestra> Healot: I am such a fool.
[08:22] <polpak> !tell linuxboyfriend about usplash
[08:22] <Healot> eh?
[08:23] <sohmestra> Healot: the module _was_ getting loaded at boot time
[08:23] <sohmestra> Healot: ifconfig -a made it obvious that I just had failed to add an 'auto eth0' to /etc/network/interfaces
[08:23] <Healot> any success then?
[08:23] <sohmestra> Healot: thanks, muchly
[08:24] <Healot> oh... miss the interfaces config huh
[08:24] <Healot> does the module loaded at boot time?
[08:24] <sohmestra> Healot: yeah, once I added it to /etc/modules it did.
[08:24] <Healot> did you you add the alias?
[08:24] <jade> !seen bob2
[08:24] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'bob2', jade
[08:25] <sohmestra> Healot: I was assuming that it hadn't because my interface was still not working
[08:25] <dwhsix> hiya - what's a good tool (or way) to synch an ftp site and local directory?
[08:25] <sohmestra> Healot: thanks for your patience with a fool like myself ;o)
[08:26] <Healot> I am learning too at the same time you figure out your problem
[08:26] <linuxboyfriend> polpak, thanks a lot
[08:26] <LoPMX>  does anyone know how can i burn a bootable Cd onto a dvd? in other words how can i extract the bootloader from a cd and burn onto a dvd?
[08:26] <peratu> Hi.
[08:26] <LoPMX> i would like to test dapper dc
[08:26] <LoPMX> cd
[08:26] <LoPMX> live
[08:26] <Healot> you want the boot image, LoPMX ?
[08:27] <LoPMX> Healot, i downloaded dapper live cd, and currently i only have a dvd-r,
[08:27] <Healot> you can use "dd" to extract the boot sector of that CD...
[08:27] <LoPMX> but in windows?
[08:27] <Healot> consult "man dd"
[08:27] <Healot> in Windows? try to use Nero :)
[08:27] <LoPMX> damn, gotta download it then
[08:28] <IcemanV9> LoPMX: there is DVD iso available
[08:28] <LoPMX> of dapper?
[08:28] <LoPMX> flight5?
[08:28] <IcemanV9> yes
[08:28] <IcemanV9> current
[08:28] <Healot> hey btw... you can burn the CD image onto a DVD right, LoPMX ?
[08:28] <neodreams> !seen neodreams
[08:28] <ubotu> neodreams is currently on #ubuntu (17m 43s)
[08:28] <LoPMX> Healot, yeah, but it's not booting
[08:29] <patrick52222> hello how can imount my nfts partitions
[08:29] <LoPMX> hm, btw. first, could u tell me if xgl is on flight5?
[08:29] <Healot> LoPMX, on windows you can use "isobuster" or "ultraiso"
[08:29] <phil_> hi
[08:30] <Healot> no, haven't dl that f5 yet
[08:30] <patrick52222> hello how can imount my nfts partitions
[08:30] <LoPMX> er, so there is no xgl support on this live cd?
[08:30] <LoPMX> patrick52222, mount -tntfs
[08:31] <Healot> i am not sure...
[08:31] <LoPMX> damn
[08:31] <LoPMX> that's why i downoaded it
[08:31] <LoPMX> just to try xgl
[08:31] <patrick52222> is that it
[08:31] <LoPMX> no of course not
[08:31] <Hexidigital> ubotu !explode
[08:31] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hexidigital
[08:31] <na7e> !chuck
[08:31] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, na7e
[08:32] <LoPMX> patrick52222,  http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:32] <na7e> !chucknorris
[08:32] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, na7e
[08:32] <Hexidigital> chuck norris?
[08:32] <Hexidigital> :)
[08:32] <LoPMX> does anyone here use xgl?
[08:32] <Chousuke> na7e: there's ubugtu on #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <Healot> wtf, I;ve seen "chuck norris" all over the net...
[08:32] <sfar-ubu> he rocks
[08:32] <sfar-ubu> chuck norris never sleep.. he waits
[08:33] <Healot> nay, LoPMX , but I bet other people used/tried that
[08:33] <na7e> chuck norris invented the internet
[08:33] <na7e> don't question it, or you're dead
[08:33] <Healot> dude
[08:33] <sfar-ubu> chuck norris tears cure cancer.. too bad he's never cried
[08:33] <sfar-ubu> and so on
[08:33] <Healot> !offtopic
[08:33] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:33] <LoPMX> everyone can piss on the floor, but only chuch norris can do shit on the ceiling
[08:33] <sfar-ubu> :)
[08:34] <LoPMX> hmm
[08:35] <patrick52222> when i use this mount -tntfs  i get this   /dev/hda5 on /tmp/disks-conf-hda5 type ntfs (rw)
[08:35] <ssam> do any bash gurus know why "ls *.[jJ] [pP] *([eE] )[gG] " works on the command line but fails in a shell script?
[08:35] <sfar-ubu> "mount -t ntfs" i think
[08:35] <Healot> patrick52222, you can't actually write on NTFS with default linux drivers
[08:35] <ssam> the error  is "line 8: `ls *.[jJ] [pP] *([eE] )[gG] '"
[08:36] <patrick52222> i know i just want to copy my stuff of it then i can format it for linux
[08:36] <ssam> its meant to list all the .jpeg, .JPEG, .jpg etc in the current dir
[08:36] <kingspawn> ssam: i bet you need some quotes around stuff that uses [
[08:36] <Aubre> hello
[08:36] <patrick52222> im using dapper drake
[08:36] <Healot> ssam, that regexp will fail
[08:36] <ssam> kingspawn, its the exact same line in the script as on the comand line
[08:37] <soundray> ssam: kingspawn may be right, but I would try replacing each occurrence of * with \* first.
[08:37] <bluesign> how can I test my opengl install on ubuntu ?
[08:37] <nestorm> patrick52222: where can I find de souces list entries for moving to dapper?
[08:37] <na7e> bluesign, glxgears
[08:37] <kingspawn> ssam: trye soundray's approach
[08:37] <kingspawn> s/trye/try
[08:37] <ssam> soundray, that makes it fail on both
[08:37] <na7e> bluesign, or test the screensaver antspotlight
[08:38] <Healot> bluesign, try the screensavers marked with OpenGL
[08:38] <na7e> bluesign, antspotlight is heavy gl, i recommend it.
[08:38] <ssam> soundray, i think that makes bash pass the * to ls, but it should be expanded by bash
[08:38] <patrick52222> nestorm: i havent got a glue i just installed dapper drake today
[08:38] <patrick52222> *clue
[08:38] <bluesign> hmm thanks, but how can I make sure that it works well, i mean I get 1400FPS on glxgears, is it good?
[08:39] <nestorm> patrick52222: ok, great
[08:39] <polpak> ssam, what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:40] <sethrd> Anyway to get GNOME 2.14 on Badger?
[08:40] <polpak> bluesign, if  the command  glxinfo | grep direct says Direct Rendering yes.. you're good
[08:40] <patrick52222> i need the plugin for .wma files where do i get it
[08:40] <ssam> polpak, i want to match all the jpeg files in a directory
[08:40] <ssam> polpak, the command works fine if i just run it in bash
[08:40] <bluesign> polpak: yep I got that line, but wineX (aka cedega) is so slow on Warcraft III, I remeber playing it a lot faster
[08:40] <ptlo> sethrd: maybe using garnome, but i bet the dependencies are huge anyways
[08:41] <ssam> ls *.[jJ] [pP] *([eE] )[gG] 
[08:41] <sethrd> ptlo: That the only way?
[08:41] <valentinos> hi
[08:41] <LoPMX> bluesign, maybe u remember playing it on... windows? :D
[08:41] <nestorm> windows is sooooo stupid
[08:41] <patrick52222> can i get plugins for .wma files where do i get it
[08:41] <nestorm> I just needed to sayit
[08:41] <polpak> bluesign, did you pass the -opengl arguement to warcraft 3?
[08:41] <nestorm> patrick52222: marillat repositories
[08:41] <LoPMX> nestorm, so am I, and what?
[08:42] <ptlo> sethrd: well, garnome, or jhbuild (compiling everything from source, although in a automated way), i'd say, yeah
[08:42] <bluesign> LoPMX: lol, I can't actually remeber when i last used windows on that laptop :)
[08:42] <Healot> ls | egrep "[Jj] [Pp] [Gg] |[Jj] [Pp] [Ee] [Gg] " >> try this
[08:42] <bluesign> polpak: hmm I will try that
[08:42] <sethrd> ptlo: About how long you think that will tkae?
[08:42] <soundray> ssam: sorry, I can't even reproduce it working on direct entry.
[08:42] <valentinos> i have a small problem with NFS anyone familiar with the system ?
[08:43] <patrick52222> nestorm: where do i get them
[08:43] <ptlo> sethrd: *shrug* i've never compiled the entire gnome from source :( i suspect it could take a while
[08:43] <cA1mAn> can i use foobar 2000 (music player) with linux (wine), somebody tested?
[08:43] <kingspawn> ssam, soundray; me neither
[08:43] <itstheday> for immediate sale 2 gateway portable computers$400 each, 1 hp portable computer 400$, price includes shipping, case, wireless router.  message me if intersted on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com
[08:43] <ssam> Healot, that works but mine was neater :-)
[08:43] <soundray> valentinos: describe your problem
[08:43] <valentinos> soundray, whatever i do i cant get write permisions to the shares
[08:44] <sethrd> ptlo: Gnome 2.14 is default for Dapper, correct?
[08:44] <Healot> which one, ssam, i don;t think ls support regexp like that :)
[08:44] <patrick52222> soundray: do you know how to view the ntfs partitions
[08:44] <ssam> kingspawn, soundray, strange ls *.[jJ] [pP] *([eE] )[gG]  works fine for me just in bash
[08:44] <ptlo> sethrd: yup
[08:44] <Jaga> nestorm, why is windows so stupid?
[08:44] <ssam> Healot, its bash doing the regex expanding
[08:44] <polpak> ssam, what interpreter are you passing for your script?
[08:45] <sethrd> ptlo: Is it possible to tell Synaptic to sync with Dapper repos?
[08:45] <soundray> valentinos: I know the problem. I'm sure mine is not the clean solution, but I share the dirs with the no_root_squash option and mount them as root (from fstab) on the target system
[08:45] <ssam> Healot, i found the synatax http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/bashref/bashref_35.html
[08:45] <Healot> well, it failed the cli
[08:45] <ptlo> sethrd: you mean, upgrade your breezy to dapper? yeah
[08:45] <nestorm> Jaga: it endless scans for items in a network and I can't make it stop, no button, no nothing
[08:45] <sethrd> ptlo: Can you point me in the right direction?
[08:45] <valentinos> soundray, thanks i will try it now
[08:45] <Jaga> nestorm, good answer...
[08:45] <nestorm> ptlo: I would like to upgrade too
[08:45] <Healot> shell maybot be bash, ssam :)
[08:45] <patrick52222> soundray: do you know how to view the ntfs partitions
[08:45] <Healot> maybot
[08:45] <ssam> polpak, both in /bin/bash i have the #!/bin/bash in the script
[08:45] <Healot> maynot* crap
[08:46] <soundray> patrick52222: yes, I just have to mount them, then I can read the files on them.
[08:46] <ssam> Healot, work if i run it after typing /bin/bash
[08:46] <cA1mAn> can i use foobar2000 (music player) with linux (wine), anybody tested?
[08:46] <kingspawn> ssam: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:46] <patrick52222> soundray: how can i do it
[08:46] <Healot> Jaga, it's nay the software who is the foo
[08:47] <soundray> patrick52222: have you followed the wiki instructions on windows partitions?
[08:47] <polpak> !tell patrick52222 about ntfs
[08:47] <valentinos> patrick52222, http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[08:47] <soundray> !ubuntuguide
[08:47] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[08:47] <polpak> !tell patrick52222 about windowsdrives
[08:47] <ssam> kingspawn, how come it works in my bash :-(
[08:47] <patrick52222> cheers will try them
[08:47] <Jaga> Healot, ?
[08:48] <sethrd> Will apt-get dist-upgrade take me from Badger to Dapper?
[08:49] <beerockxs> sethrd, if you change /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:49] <ptlo> sethrd, nestorm: you could edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to dapper repozitories and run dist-upgrade , there was howto somewhere about this, i'm looking for it. in the meantime, you could go ask in #ubuntu+1, which provides dapper info/help. but note that dapper is still beta, so it might break something on your system
[08:49] <itstheday> for immediate sale 2 gateway portable computers$400 each, 1 hp portable computer 400$, price includes shipping, case, wireless router.  message me if intersted on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com
[08:49] <Healot> ssam, bash -v
[08:49] <patrick52222> cheers all
[08:49] <sethrd> ptlo: System can't get any worse then it is. =)
[08:49] <sethrd> ptlo: Thanks.
[08:49] <aridese> hi guys how do i get shockwave working in firefox?
[08:49] <patrick52222> now how do i get plugins for .WMA files
[08:49] <polpak> aridese, flash?
[08:50] <polpak> !tell patrick52222 about restricted
[08:50] <aridese> polpak, no, shockwave
[08:50] <tristanmike> I don't think "shockwave" works in linux
[08:50] <soundray> Guys, what do you do when you install Ubuntu on a system that has a ULI SATA chipset, and the sata_uli module is not in the installer's initrd?
[08:50] <aridese> oh.
[08:50] <aridese> why not?
[08:50] <kingspawn> ssam: divine intervention
[08:50] <tristanmike> don't quote me, i'm not 100% sure
[08:50] <soundray> tristanmike: that's what I heard, too. aridese, ask Macromedia why.
[08:50] <patrick52222> polpak: it isnt on there
[08:50] <tristanmike> last i checked they didn't have a linux installer on the web, but one for flash
[08:50] <ssam> kingspawn, http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#SEC34 its in the docs *(pattern) should match 0 or more of the pattern
[08:50] <aridese> ah ok
[08:50] <aridese> sucks
[08:51] <polpak> patrick52222, yes it is
[08:51] <nestorm> Macromedia is not anymore, soundtray :)
[08:51] <tristanmike> email them and tell them you are unhappy
[08:51] <polpak> patrick52222, the win32 codecs
[08:51] <tristanmike> i did
[08:51] <patrick52222> polpak: ok
[08:51] <soundray> nestorm: soundtray never was :)
[08:51] <soundray> nestorm: I know Adobe have gobbled them up.
[08:51] <Healot> ls --ignore="*.[jJ] [pP] ([Ee] )[Gg] " >> this works :)
[08:51] <nestorm> soundray: sorry, that is what I meant
[08:52] <kingspawn> ssam: hm, very weird. i have to go now, gf arrived. if you see me around here later, lets look into it further. if you have solved it i'd be interested in the sollution
[08:52] <valentinos> soundray, /share  (no_root_squash,rw,nohide)   <-- this is the line inside exports ~ ## 192.168.1.100:/share  /share  nfs  suid,dev,exec  0  0 #  and this is inside fstab can u see anything wrong ?
[08:52] <ssam> kingspawn, hmm it says i need the extglob shell option set
[08:53] <ssam> kingspawn, thanks see you
[08:53] <mike-e_> can anyone help me set up an IBM lazerjet network printer on ubuntu?
[08:53] <soundray> valentinos: in exports, specify the host of the target like so: '/share  192.168.1.101(no_root_squash,rw,nohide)'
[08:54] <htrp> what does "apt-get dist-upgrade" really do?
[08:54] <majd> Hey, is there a gnome program to allow me to burn a .avi file to a video cd?
[08:54] <Healot> mike-e_, model? connector type (parallel/usb/infrared)?
[08:54] <sohmestra> htrp: upgrades current packages and installs any new dpendancies
[08:54] <htrp> ic
[08:54] <htrp> including the kernel?
[08:54] <mike-e_> IBM Network Printer 4312
[08:54] <mike-e_> cat5
[08:54] <sohmestra> htrp: yes
[08:55] <Healot> mike-e_, it's over network eh? or locally connected?
[08:55] <htrp> so, by doing that, itll upgrade
[08:55] <mike-e_> network
[08:55] <ssam> kingspawn, shopt | grep extglob says on for terminal and off for the script
[08:55] <soundray> htrp, only if you have metapackages that depend on the most recent kernel, e.g. linux-k7
[08:55] <htrp> so, by doing that, itll upgrade 'anything' im missing?
[08:55] <htrp> oh ic
[08:55] <sohmestra> htrp: only those things that currently installed programs require
[08:55] <Healot> Open "System->Administration->Printing" first... mike-e_
[08:55] <away_man> anyone here right now who can help me with authenticating Active Directory users in Breezy?
[08:56] <Healot> is the printer on Windows, or IP-based printer?
[08:56] <na7e> away_man, i don't know, but if you find out please tell me, that'd be interesting to know
[08:56] <soundray> Is there a way to load additional hardware support into the installer? We can't get Ubuntu to install on a system with a semi-supported SATA chipset.
[08:56] <valentinos> soundray, same error
[08:56] <sohmestra> htrp: actually, anything that the upgraded packages require
[08:56] <ssam> and "shopt -s extglob" is the magic code to make it work
[08:57] <mike-e_> I think it's on windows based printing
[08:57] <away_man> na7e: several people have done it successfully, but I'm not quite getting it to work
[08:57] <soundray> valentinos: you have to make your nfs server reload /etc/exports. Have you done that?
[08:57] <valentinos> yeap
[08:57] <tolonuga> hi. can anyone tell me where I can find the files and scripts used to create the ubuntu live cds?
[08:57] <mike-e_> Healot I believe it's windows based printing
[08:58] <soundray> !info dfsbuild
[08:58] <ubotu> dfsbuild: (Build Debian From Scratch CD/DVD images), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.6.20 (breezy), Packaged size: 1047 kB, Installed size: 2920 kB
[08:58] <htrp> ic
[08:58] <valentinos> soundray, i Seriously think to try smb now :)
[08:58] <soundray> tolonuga: ^
[08:58] <Healot> mike-e_, then it will be a bit complicated, you need to figure out Samba first...
[08:59] <mike-e_> hm
[08:59] <mike-e_> =/
[08:59] <soundray> valentinos: it is a bit difficult getting NFS to do what you want, but I don't find SMB easy either.
[08:59] <majd> Hey, is there a gnome program to allow me to burn a .avi file to a video cd?
[08:59] <mike-e_> 2048/tcp open  dls-monitor
[08:59] <soundray> majd, k3b may do it for you.
[08:59] <mike-e_> 2501/tcp open  rtsclient
[08:59] <mike-e_> does that tell you anything?
[08:59] <mike-e_> i have samba set up on here btw.
[08:59] <away_man> na7e: if you want to try it, you may have better luck than I did; it's actually not all that hard to get it set up.  Check out these links:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91510&highlight=active+directory   and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto?highlight=%28directory%29%7C%28active%29
[08:59] <init7> hi , I am here again ;)
[09:00] <majd> soundray, it won't
[09:00] <Healot> ok... then you can go straight to the printer setup
[09:00] <away_man> I can get kinit will issue me tickets just fine, but I get failures when I try to actually log into Ubuntu with my AD accounts
[09:00] <init7> tried to install my quickcam messenger earlier, it worked for some time until I unloaded the module (of course), when modprobing it again it didn't start working again, same after reboot, any help GREATLY appreciated
[09:00] <Healot> done with this "System->Administration->Printing"? mike-e_
[09:01] <majd> soundray, "Only MPEG1 and MPEG2 video files are supported."
[09:01] <mike-e_> yes healot
[09:01] <valentinos> soundray, one small detaill my shared directories and linked directories are created and have as owner the root, and full permisions. can this be a problem ?
[09:01] <soundray> majd, apt-cache search vcd throws up a few things, most importantly vcdtools and vcdimager. You may need transcode, too.
[09:02] <^Odd^> !sources
[09:02] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:02] <Fawzib> ic56: another question, i'm going to use /etc/lsb-release to check the version (seems simpler) but need to check which ubuntu version it is
[09:02] <soundray> valentinos: I don't think it would.
[09:02] <ic56> : yes?
[09:02] <Healot> well, basically, "Add new printer", mike-e_
[09:02] <na7e> away_man, don't have an AD to authenticate against but now i might consider one at home
[09:03] <ic56> Fawzib: go on
[09:03] <valentinos> soundray, thanks   i will try google again  to see if i am lucky thanks again
[09:04] <mike-e_> and then set it up as a windows printer?
[09:04] <Fawzib> ic56: my new problem is that I have to compare versions if its >5.10 do something else do another, but it seems bash only compares integers
[09:04] <Healot> check out the Network/Samba/SMB printer
[09:05] <soundray> valentinos, a good wiki page on NFS sharing in Ubuntu seems to be missing. When you've had success, please write one.
[09:05] <soundray> :)
[09:05] <graveson> i have a maxtor raid 0 (firewire) drive . can anyone tell me what the best way is to handle this type of drive
[09:05] <Fawzib> ic56: unless there is another way
[09:05] <patty5222> hello i just done this
[09:05] <patty5222> cd
[09:05] <patty5222> wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[09:05] <ic56> Fawzib: my Ubuntu system is down at the moment.  What is the output of lsb*?
[09:05] <patty5222> follwed by sudo bash diskmounter
[09:06] <soundray> valentinos: oops
[09:06] <patty5222> but i still cant see my other hdds
[09:06] <soundray> valentinos: search the wiki for NFSClientHowTo and NFSServerHowTo. Maybe that'lll help :)
[09:07] <valentinos> i will
[09:07] <Fawzib> ic56: eh, I was thinking of including the /etc/lsb-release in my init script and use the variables (is that too ugly)?
[09:07] <patty5222> im having probs seeing my other partions
[09:08] <Fawzib> ic56: or accepted? like I said , new at this :)
[09:08] <ic56> Fawzib: no, not ugly.  I assume the file contains a single line?  Paste it for me so I can ge a sense.
[09:08] <patty5222> i followed the instrucrtion of this place
[09:08] <patty5222> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:08] <patty5222> but still cant see the partitions
[09:08] <graveson> is reiser4 better performance wise than ext3 filesystem
[09:08] <init7> tried to install my quickcam messenger earlier, it worked for some time until I unloaded the module (of course), when modprobing it again it didn't start working again, same after reboot, any help GREATLY appreciated
[09:09] <soundray> graveson: that's hard to answer.
[09:09] <Fawzib> ic56: no a few lines DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=5.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=breezy ...
[09:09] <soundray> graveson: apparently, reiser performs better if you have lots (lots!) of small files.
[09:10] <soundray> graveson: for contiguous reads on large files, e.g. media files, it doesn't really matter what you have.
[09:10] <graveson> soundray: good to see you around, i have a maxtor raid0 drive and  it is automatically  mounted as hfs+
[09:10] <ic56> Fawzib: ok, so it contains a stanza of like 4-6 lines?
[09:10] <Fawzib> ic56: yes
[09:11] <valentinos> Edit the file /etc/default/portmap and remove the -i 127.0.0.1 option from ARGS  think i found it :)
[09:11] <graveson> soundray: my main goal is storage of data ,but also recording of audio files ,any suggestions ?
[09:11] <ic56> Fawzib: each line containing just one variable?
[09:11] <Fawzib> ic56: yes
[09:12] <soundray> graveson: HDs are so fast these days, they cope easily with audio recording -- even high-definition audio, unless you do multitrack.
[09:12] <patty5222> can some one help me if possible
[09:12] <makaveli> wossap
[09:12] <CanadianSnow> hi
[09:13] <soundray> graveson: it doesn't really matter what filesystem you use. I'd go with the ubuntu default anytime.
[09:13] <ic56> Fawzib: ok, so it's meant to be sourced:  . /etc/lsb-release and all those variables are now in your shell.  Is that how you're doing it?
[09:13] <patty5222> Ignoring /dev/hda5 - already in /etc/fstab
[09:13] <graveson> ok thanks , do you know anything about managing this RAID 0 device ?
[09:13] <soundray> graveson: I might consider ext2 (less overhead).
[09:13] <st3v3dnd> Is anyone here familiar with FreeNX?
[09:13] <graveson> soundray : ok so i should leave hfs+
[09:14] <soundray> graveson: I have no practical experience with RAID. Is it a hardware controller?
[09:14] <Fawzib> ic56: yes, again
[09:14] <soundray> graveson: no, I would format it with ext3 (possibly ext2) if there wasn't any data on it already.
[09:16] <soundray> graveson: or is it one of those NAS devices?
[09:16] <Fawzib> ic56: if [ -s /etc/lsb-release] ; then . /etc/lsb-release fi, then I could check the DISTRIB_RELEASE but dont know how to compare decimals bash seems to compare integers only
[09:16] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[09:16] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[09:17] <ic56> Fawzib: The traditional (and most portable) way of comparing strings is with the case .. esac construct.  This will work in traditional Bourne shell, not just bash.  So it will work on systems as foreign from Linux as Solaris and NetBSD.
[09:17] <graveson> soundray: no it is a firewire external 600GB  drive ,with built in raid 0 , when mounted automatically it mounts a big chunk of the drive (560GB) and multiple small disks( 200kb) which i am guessing is the stripes
[09:17] <gnomefreak> that was supposed to be /msg not me
[09:18] <soundray> graveson: it's obviously targeted at Mac users.
[09:18] <Cyorxamp> Lo, does anyone here use gnokki (gnocky) on ubuntu?? i need a hand setting it up!
[09:18] <majd> would a dvd player read a data cd with avi files and play them?
[09:18] <soundray> majd: you mean a standalone one? Some do, some don't.
[09:18] <graveson> soundray: how would you know that :) ,you are right by the way
[09:18] <Cyorxamp> it's one of these evil .tar.gz need to compile myself blah type ones
[09:18] <patty5222> does any one know how to mount ntfs partitions well cause im having problems
[09:18] <Fawzib> ic56: ok, but this is for a debian package, do I need to care about solaris?
[09:18] <ic56> Fawzib: If you're not concerned about portability (you should always be) then you can use `test'.  Actually, test is also portable but it's slower on non-bash systems because it's as separate executable.
[09:19] <majd> soundray, yeah, a portable one
[09:19] <majd> ok i'll try
[09:19] <gnomefreak> st3v3dnd: here try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[09:20] <gnomefreak> patty5222: dont try to mount ntfs as write   only mount it as readable
[09:20] <ic56> Fawzib: anyway, you are going to need to allow for additional cases, which will present themselves as the package gets ported to additional systems and as the original systems change over time.  Thus, `case' is the way to go.
[09:20] <patty5222> wat the code as i followed one of a website but it doesnt show up
[09:20] <jakl> is there a way to remember a window position with ubuntu?? every time i open a small app i get annoyed because it opens at the wrong place and i hvae to move it...
[09:21] <jakl> usually you can set it by clicking on the corner of the window to remember settings but i don't see that option
[09:21] <ic56> Fawzib: case  in ubuntu) echo is ubuntu
[09:21] <ic56>  debian) echo is debian
[09:21] <ic56>  *) echo is other
[09:21] <ic56>  esac
[09:21] <patty5222> gnome: wat the code as i followed one of a website but it doesnt show up
[09:21] <ic56> Fawzib: oops
[09:21] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[09:21] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:21] <soundray> jakl, there is a thing called devilspie that helps you fix things like that. Some X programs also support the -geometry option.
[09:21] <gnomefreak> ^^^ that site?
[09:22] <virgule> greetings. I have to set permissions for a bunch of files. I want to usr one file's permission and copy it to all the others in the same directory. A one liner would be perfect. Thanks you..
[09:22] <jakl> hmm k
[09:22] <soundray> jakl, I use 'alias xpdf='xpdf -z width -geometry 1024x900+10+10'' so it opens the way I like it.
[09:22] <ic56> Fawzib: case  in ubuntu) echo is ubuntu
[09:22] <ic56>  debian) echo is debian
[09:22] <ic56>  *) echo is other
[09:22] <ic56>  esac
[09:22] <gnomefreak> virgule: man chmod
[09:23] <ic56> Fawzib screwed up agin! sorry, something wrong in client config.
[09:23] <patty5222> thats wat i used but it isnt working
[09:23] <Fawzib> ic56: yeah I know how to use "case" I just dont like it :)
[09:23] <gnomefreak> patty5222: which way did you try it using the script or manually changing the fs?
[09:23] <ic56> Fawzib dislike case? Why?  It's the most efficient of all the constructs -- both in CPU speed and, when there are multiple choices, in legibility.
[09:24] <st3v3dnd> gnomefreak: I've already used that link, and the postings in the forum. I have it running, it's just that the connecting is erractic. Sometimes I connect immediately, other times I have to keep trying over and over to get a connection.
[09:24] <patty5222> the script
[09:24] <graveson> soundray : what is a good tool for managing disks and mount points in ubuntu
[09:24] <soundray> graveson: dd
[09:25] <soundray> graveson, just kidding.
[09:25] <virgule> man chmod were not usefull. man coreutils chmod and info coreutils chmod neither
[09:25] <soundray> graveson, for partitions, I use cfdisk, and occasionally gparted. For mount points, I edit /etc/fstab by hand.
[09:26] <Fawzib> ic56: need to add too many options to the init.d script all i want is if (ubuntu){ if(ver>5.10){ dapper or later }else{ breezy or earlier } }else{ not ubuntu }
[09:26] <epp> i accidcently deleted /var/cache/apt/archives/, now apt doesnt work, what do i do?
[09:26] <soundray> epp: 'sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial' should fix it.
[09:27] <ic56> Fawzib: well, if you want to use `test', it would be done like so:  if [ "" = string1 ] ; then echo they match ...
[09:27] <virgule> greetings. I have to set permissions for a bunch of files. I want to usr one file's permission and copy it to all the others in the same directory. A one liner would be perfect. Thanks you..
[09:27] <epp> thx soundray
[09:27] <graveson> thnx soundray
[09:27] <ic56> Fawzib: ah, with case I can make it shorter.  Watch this:
[09:28] <ic56> e
[09:28] <ic56> $ech
[09:28] <gnomefreak> virgule: to set permissions you would use chmod <some type of varible> path/to/file
[09:28] <soundray> virgule, you haven't read man chmod thoroughly. It says you can use a file's permissions as a template if you point to it with the --reference= option.
[09:29] <simpo> hi! i have a question... is there any way to use OSS sound instead of ALSA ?
[09:29] <soundray> simpo: it's possible, but difficult, and, more importantly, pointless.
[09:30] <soundray> simpo: if a program wants the old OSS interface, you can load the compatibility module.
[09:30] <virgule> you mean this: --reference=RFILE
[09:30] <virgule>               use RFILEs mode instead of MODE values
[09:30] <virgule> . Sorry pal I just don't quite get it :)
[09:30] <ssam> simpo, system -> prefs -> multimedia selector lets you choose for the built in gnome apps
[09:30] <ssam> simpo, other apps may have the option in their prefs
[09:30] <soundray> simpo: 'sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss'
[09:30] <jsalk> does anybody here know how to install programs on ubuntu
[09:30] <bimberi> !install
[09:30] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[09:31] <gnomefreak> jsalk: synaptic
[09:31] <soundray> jsalk: ubotu does
[09:31] <epp> i have a ati reage mobility. how do i make it work with ati drivers?
[09:31] <soundray> !install
[09:31] <bimberi> jsalk: 2nd link ^^^^^^
[09:31] <virgule> im set .Thanks.
[09:31] <ic56> $u2: case $distro.$majorversion.$minorversion in  ubuntu.[0-4] .*|ubuntu.5.[0-9] |ubuntu.5.10) echo old ;; ubuntu.*.*) echo dapper ;; *) echo other ;; esac
[09:31] <ubuntu> my first chat!
[09:31] <simpo> soundray-> and then should i restart anything ?
[09:31] <ic56> Fawzib: case $distro.$majorversion.$minorversion in  ubuntu.[0-4] .*|ubuntu.5.[0-9] |ubuntu.5.10) echo old ;; ubuntu.*.*) echo dapper ;; *) echo other ;; esac
[09:31] <deizi> http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snap7te.jpg current kubuntu
[09:31] <bimberi> ubuntu: welcome :)
[09:32] <soundray> simpo, no. Possibly the application that wants OSS.
[09:32] <soundray> !tell epp about ati
[09:32] <sfar-ubu> "Chances are quite large that dpkg will complain about missing dependencies. In most cases, the command apt-get -f installl will fix this for you."
[09:32] <ubuntu> bye
[09:32] <rainer> does anybody know how to enable DRI with a SIS760 Chipset?
[09:32] <Mystery47_newbie> hello everybody....!
[09:32] <theSamo> how do i update from breezy to dapper? through apt-get that is
[09:32] <sfar-ubu> installl?
[09:33] <ic56> Fawzib: admittedly, the handling of numerics is kludgy but you wouldn't have been able to handle floating point (5.10) comparisons in a shell environment anyway.
[09:33] <sfar-ubu> or do they mean "apt-get -f install <application" ?
[09:33] <sfar-ubu> +>
[09:33] <gnomefreak> no
[09:33] <Mystery47_newbie> I just got one question about xmms-player....where i put skins and how those started...?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> sfar-ubu: type as command sudo apt-get -f install
[09:33] <soundray> !tell theSamo about upgrade
[09:34] <gnomefreak> do not add the package name as sudo apt-get -f install fixrs broken packages
[09:34] <Mystery47_newbie> I just got one question about xmms-player....where i put skins and how those started...?
[09:35] <soundray> Mystery47_newbie: don't repeat. If someone knows, they will say so.
[09:35] <gnomefreak> why does X have to give me issues today :(
[09:35] <howard> hi guy
[09:35] <soundray> Mystery47_newbie: I think they go under ~/.xmms/
[09:35] <howard> any can help me??
[09:35] <Mystery47_newbie> oh..i just tought that nobody saw me....:(
[09:35] <howard> i have a problem with firefox and flash
[09:35] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[09:35] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[09:35] <Mystery47_newbie> but if i put skin in there how i put it on...
[09:35] <soundray> Mystery47_newbie: ~/.xmms/Skins actually
[09:35] <init7> tried to install my quickcam messenger earlier, it worked for some time until I unloaded the module (of course), when modprobing it again it didn't start working again, same after reboot, any help GREATLY appreciated
[09:35] <Mystery47_newbie> that directory is empty...just now...
[09:36] <howard> hey guys
[09:36] <Mystery47_newbie> so if i put mine skins in there...xmms changes its look...?
[09:36] <soundray> Mystery47_newbie: that means it's loading the system default.
[09:36] <Mystery47_newbie> oh....(maybe im dump...or newbie...)
[09:36] <howard> alguien tiene ubuntu aqui?
[09:36] <Mystery47_newbie> i just try....thanks...:)
[09:37] <soundray> Mystery47_newbie: I think you still have to tell it to via the preferences. Try right-clicking on the xmms window.
[09:37] <Mystery47_newbie> i saw it....ok....thanks...=)
[09:37] <soundray> howard, what's the problem exactly?
[09:38] <ic56> !es
[09:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:39] <Fawzib> ic56: hehehe, I need to learn more about bash. it worked perfectly, thanks
[09:41] <simpo> anybody has running sound on  snd_nm256 and linux ?
[09:41] <ic56> $u2: actually, you might learn better if you read up on Bourne shell instead.  It's older and less fat.  Thus the manpage is shorter and you can focus on the important features.
[09:41] <ic56> Fawzib: actually, you might learn better if you read up on Bourne shell instead.  It's older and less fat.  Thus the manpage is shorter and you can focus on the important features.
[09:41] <ardchoille> I have a question. I know you can mount an ISO file and see the files inside. But, can you add or remove files to/from the ISO while it's mounted and have it be a valid ISO without having to mkisofs all over again?
[09:42] <ic56> Fawzib: and it's a clean subset so no wasted learning.
[09:43] <Fawzib> ic56: ok, ill do that, thanks again
[09:43] <jind> ardchoille: no. An iso is a finalized filesystem.
[09:43] <ardchoille> jind: ok, thak you
[09:44] <Mystery47_newbie> ok....i just tried one skins...but that was wrong....and i managed to try next one....now i got it....thanks for all who helped me.....nice weekend to you all!
[09:45] <kaynos> how do I find out what could not be satisfied?     sudo apt-get build-dep asterisk
[09:45] <kaynos> Reading package lists... Done
[09:45] <kaynos> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:45] <kaynos> E: Build-dependencies for asterisk could not be satisfied.
[09:48] <quadit> hi all
[09:49] <jb0nd38372> Evening
[09:49] <protocol1> hello
[09:49] <quadit> what time where u are?
[09:49] <jb0nd38372> 2:49cst here
[09:49] <quadit> same here
[09:50] <michael_> wat's a good radio type program?
[09:50] <michael_> like iTunes
[09:50] <quadit> just finished a PPC install on an iMacDV
[09:50] <quadit> any other PPC users here?
[09:50] <rangekill> is this the ubuntu thingy
[09:50] <quadit> yep
[09:50] <protocol1> 11:50 Ak Time
[09:50] <quadit> AK - cook
[09:51] <quadit> cool
[09:51] <bimberi> rangekill: yes
[09:51] <quadit> my dad used to live in AK
[09:51] <protocol1> Anchorage ak
[09:51] <Darky> i deleted my panel, and now i canot see the programs at the background only with Alt+Tab... how can i fix it?
[09:51] <rangekill> if it doesnt detect your dhcp settings what should you do next this is my first time workn with ubuntu on xp right now
[09:52] <quadit> nobody else on PPC?
[09:52] <michael_> Anybody have a preference for a program that plays radio type audio... something like iTunes or Windows Media Player??
[09:52] <proof_of_death> xmms
[09:53] <Darky> i deleted my panel, and now i canot see the programs at the background only with Alt+Tab... how can i fix it?
[09:53] <bimberi> Darky: do you still have another panel?  right click, new panel.  Then add the Window List applet
[09:53] <proof_of_death> michael: it doesn't have a listing of "radio type" audio channels, but i quite like it. works like winamp. i believe amarok has a listing
[09:53] <michael_> how do I play a station with XMMS?
[09:53] <drbreen> hi.
[09:53] <drbreen> anyone here who can help mewith ltsp
[09:53] <drbreen> ?
[09:54] <Darky>  Window List applet from were?
[09:54] <^Odd^> is there anyone here that knows a good deal about hardware?
[09:54] <bimberi> Darky: right-click, Add To Panel
[09:54] <Darky> great i found it...
[09:54] <proof_of_death> michael: add: url. or load the playlist file into it
[09:54] <Darky> tnx :)
[09:54] <GigaClon> !ask
[09:54] <quadit> odd - what platform?
[09:55] <michael_> where can I get some url's?
[09:55] <^Odd^> quadit,  x86
[09:55] <quadit> I know a bit. Is there a specific device?
[09:55] <proof_of_death> michael: http://www.shoutcast.com/
[09:55] <michael_> ty
[09:56] <protocol1> my air matress had a hole in it.....had to find it and patch it with duck tape
[09:56] <^Odd^> quadit, its an amd xp 1800+ 1.5 overclocked to 1.6 i have a fan controller that monitors the temps for hd0 the fsb and the cpu.....in windows the temps where 5-7 degrees cooler farenhight
[09:56] <^Odd^> now there kinda up there is linux harming my system or something? why the higher temps
[09:57] <quadit> on the hds, the chips, or both?
[09:57] <^Odd^> the hd0 is at 90F the fsb is at 122F and the cpu is at 112F
[09:57] <bkf> hello!
[09:57] <quadit> is the temp increase on all three?
[09:57] <^Odd^> yes
[09:58] <trappist> ^Odd^: what software is desplaying the monitor output?  often you need to specify an offset
[09:58] <carcrashnights> What is the proper way to remove a pcmcia card while the system is up?
[09:58] <trappist> *displaying
[09:58] <quadit> wd trappist
[09:58] <^Odd^> it's a 5 1/2 in bay fan controller trappist
[09:58] <^Odd^> not software
[09:58] <trappist> ^Odd^: ah.
[09:58] <^Odd^> and i got a really good one as well
[09:58] <bkf> someone can help me to install java?
[09:58] <^Odd^> it's more accurate then the onboard sensors lol
[09:59] <^Odd^> by about 5F
[09:59] <lampshade> anyone ever install laptop-mode-tools?  What does it do? What do I need to do with it really?
[09:59] <^Odd^> i am just wondering if i shoud be conserned about the increase in tempratures
[09:59] <Hexidigital> how much of an increase?
[09:59] <carcrashnights> stopping PCMCIA using the init script seems to work. Is that the correct way to remove the cards, though?
[09:59] <bkf> sudo apt-get instal ???
[10:00] <^Odd^> cpu used to be 109F fsb used to be the same and hd0 used to run at 80F
[10:00] <proof_of_death> bkf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java
[10:00] <bkf> tks!
[10:00] <proof_of_death> bkf: java is in the list. search for it
[10:00] <Hexidigital> ^odd^, what are they now?
[10:00] <^Odd^> now hdo 92F fsb 122F and cpu 112F
[10:01] <Hexidigital> ^odd^, also, what are you using to check the temps? i'd like to be able to do the same
[10:01] <lampshade> yeah me too
[10:01] <quadit> 112 dosn't seem inordinate for a CPU
[10:01] <lampshade> what program?
[10:01] <^Odd^> it's not a program
[10:01] <Hexidigital> ^odd^ that dosent seem to be a big jump in temp... i wouldnt be too concerned...
[10:01] <^Odd^> it's a 5 1/2 in fan bay controller
[10:01] <quadit> are you using one of those dedicated temp moniters that bolt into a drive bay?
[10:01] <Hexidigital> ah
[10:01] <^Odd^> it's a sunbeamtech chromatic windmill
[10:01] <^Odd^> and it has got rave reviews on every site i seen
[10:02] <^Odd^> the temp sensors are the accurate kind that you find on more expensive controllers
[10:02] <Hexidigital> that may just be because of the interface... if it was that big of a jump in centegrade, i'd be concerned
[10:02] <proof_of_death> i wouldn't be very surprised. I find that, at least on laptops, linux runs a little hotter. i would assume the same for desktops
[10:02] <quadit> how does it read the temps? is there a temp probe for each area?
[10:02] <venox> hey. why I can't access any ubuntu's service from any machine on the same network?
[10:02] <venox> I can't access the samba shares, I can't access my server via ssh
[10:02] <venox> I can't do anything!
[10:02] <venox> any ideas?
[10:02] <[Leo] > clear
[10:02] <donna> how can i install computer games can any1 tell me?
[10:02] <^Odd^> yes there is a stick on temp sensor
[10:02] <proof_of_death> venox: have you set either of those things up?
[10:03] <venox> proof_of_death: sure. haha
[10:03] <zanga> man this linux is hard
[10:03] <donna> ya i know
[10:03] <venox> and they're working since I can acccess them from the ubuntu server
[10:03] <zanga> :(
[10:03] <Hexidigital> zanga, you get used to it :)
[10:03] <donna> i just got it yesterday
[10:03] <MacSlow> any people where with ATI OpenGL-hw running the frglx driver and a recent gtk+ environment (with installed headers and dev-stuff)? Pleace msg me I need one or two people to help test a little piece of code ! Thanks in advance!
[10:03] <Hexidigital> more stable than ms windows
[10:03] <^Odd^> for each thing the hd0 sensor is stuck to the left of the spindle shaft the cpu sensor is stuck right under the heat sink and the fsb sensor is the same as well
[10:03] <protocol1> donna, have you looked for games in synaptic package manager?
[10:03] <[Leo] > i have a problem with dpkg and mesa lib
[10:03] <[Leo] > :(
[10:03] <donna> no
[10:03] <zanga> i got it today and it took me 30 min just to configutr the network
[10:03] <zanga> :(
[10:03] <patty5222> im having problems installing nvidia driver, after i install the packages i type in sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[10:04] <proof_of_death> venox: define access. you can ssh into the ubuntu server from the ubuntu server?
[10:04] <^Odd^> i don't measure in celsius i switched the display to farenhight
[10:04] <venox> yes.
[10:04] <[Leo] > i can't install the mesa lib deb!
[10:04] <qatsi> hello all !!....ok, so i had to try this Xgl thing, but in the process i obviously damaged some files....the thing is that i dont remember which ones....so, the Xsession dosnt start as user, but as root it works (actually im as root in gnome) so...can anyone tell me where to go or what to do ??? thank you all !!
[10:04] <^Odd^> so the increase in tempriture is normal for linux?
[10:04] <quadit> I'd not really worry about it. My iBook gets up to 128f under heavy load. I've had xeons get into the 130s
[10:04] <^Odd^> wow
[10:04] <^Odd^> but i bet you can afford to replace the hardware lol
[10:04] <^Odd^> i can't thats why i am worried
[10:04] <^Odd^> lol
[10:04] <cedric> hi! i was browsing the internet to find something to make gnome more interesting.. i found gdesklet.... is it a good thing?
[10:04] <zanga> so who is the expert around here ??
[10:04] <quadit> I also think that that series of AMD chip will shud down the mobo if it gets too hot
[10:05] <venox> proof_of_death: yes.
[10:05] <patty5222> im having problems installing nvidia driver, after i install the packages i type in sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found wat could be the prob
[10:05] <protocol1> a laptop cooling pad would be nice
[10:05] <drbreen> gdeklets makes some things more interesting, but kde provides more functionality overall
[10:05] <^Odd^> yea i am just worried why does linux run hotter than windows?
[10:05] <drbreen> but gdeklets provides simple iCandy
[10:05] <cedric> ok thank you :)
[10:05] <^Odd^> i mean it really does worrie me lol i can't afford to buy new hardware
[10:05] <[Leo] > why dpkg can't install any version of mesa lib??
[10:06] <lucian> hello!
[10:06] <proof_of_death> venox: hmm. is there a problem with the client connecting to the server? if you can connect from local host, i don't know why you couldn't connect from another machine on the network, unless the connection is the problem
[10:06] <deizi> humm mozilla bugs on me
[10:06] <Hexidigital> !tell cedric about gdesklet
[10:06] <quadit> that's odd (no pun). I'd never really looked at the linux/windows temps. You might look up the specs for you CPU and see what the heat range is
[10:06] <patty5222> soundray: im having problems installing nvidia driver, after i install the packages i type in sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found wat could be the prob
[10:06] <Hexidigital> guess it didnt work
[10:07] <zanga> man who is willin to teach me the basics ???
[10:07] <Hexidigital> !gdesklet
[10:07] <ubotu> Hexidigital: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:07] <cedric> ubotu didnt talk to me ;)
[10:07] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cedric
[10:07] <soundray> !gdesklets
[10:07] <ubotu> [gdesklets]  gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[10:07] <Hexidigital> hehe... i think i confused him
[10:07] <^Odd^> i know that i am within normal limits for the heat range on this cpu but i am just worried of the increase yo know lol
[10:07] <Hexidigital> !tell cedric about gdesklets
[10:07] <Hexidigital> there we go.. thanks soundray
[10:07] <drbreen> gdesklets are small programs that do useful things like displaying time etc.
[10:07] <dli> is it okay for me to remove /etc/cron.daily/apt ?
[10:07] <cedric> ;) ill give it a try then
[10:07] <mheath> ^Odd^: What kind of system is this? A desktop system?
[10:08] <drbreen> why do you want to remove it
[10:08] <patty5222> soundray: im having problems installing nvidia driver, after i install the packages i type in sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found wat could be the prob
[10:08] <lucian> how can i install gcc, without installing gcc-4.0???
[10:08] <^Odd^> yes in a huge case
[10:08] <^Odd^> lol
[10:08] <^Odd^> it's a retired server case
[10:08] <dli> drbreen, I'm on dialup, I don't want apt to auto update
[10:08] <drbreen> oha
[10:08] <Hexidigital> i want a 3.5 inch temp sensor for my laptop!
[10:08] <Hexidigital> :)
[10:08] <drbreen> why dont yoiu just make it chmod a-x
[10:08] <soundray> patty5222: try sudo nvidia-glx-config
[10:08] <drbreen> ?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> lucian: synaptic?
[10:08] <mheath> ^Odd^: Theres a chance that you had power saving software enabled before (but not under Ubunutu) that decreased voltage, speed, increased fan speed, etc.
[10:08] <[Leo] > dpkg give me strange error messages...
[10:08] <patty5222> soundray: not found
[10:09] <^Odd^> 24 1/2 in tall by 7 1/2 in wide
[10:09] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : on dapper?
[10:09] <Hexidigital> !dpkg
[10:09] <lucian> gnomefreak: it won't let me do that
[10:09] <venox> proof_of_death: no, the connection is fine.
[10:09] <^Odd^> all the fans are controlled by the fan controller
[10:09] <quadit> well said mheath
[10:09] <Hexidigital> !tell [leo]  about dpkg
[10:09] <^Odd^> and the power saving in windows was turned off
[10:09] <[Leo] > gnomefreak: yes
[10:09] <gnomefreak> lucian: wont let you what? open synaptic or install gcc-3.4?
[10:09] <zanga> e vre-un roman pe aici ??
[10:09] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : upgrades?
[10:09] <bkf> can anyone help me to install some vnc software?
[10:09] <[Leo] > gnomefreak: no
[10:09] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : i meant updates
[10:09] <^Odd^> thats why i am buggin here big case and a bit hotter can be very bad
[10:09] <[Leo] > gnomefreak: problem only with a single package
[10:10] <^Odd^> i just want to know if it's in danger of fscking up
[10:10] <[Leo] > libgl1-mesa
[10:10] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : join me in # ubuntu+1 please
[10:10] <zanga> is there a yahoo messenger version for linux ??
[10:10] <mheath> ^Odd^: Many different things can cause small, subtle changes in temperature range.
[10:10] <[Leo] > gnomefreak: it's not a problem of dapper
[10:10] <proof_of_death> venox: okay. so if you go on the other computer, and do "ssh user@serverip", it doesn't work, but if you do the same on the server, it does?
[10:10] <Hexidigital> ^odd^, i always say my computer runs on magic blue smoke :) when the smoke leaks out, it stops running
[10:10] <^Odd^> roflmao
[10:10] <mheath> zanga: Yahoo releases an official (though more limited) version of their messenger for Linux systems.
[10:10] <quadit> can't let that smoke out
[10:10] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : are you using dapper?
[10:11] <protocol1> zanga, yes on the yahoo website
[10:11] <soundray> patty5222: have you done 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'?
[10:11] <^Odd^> i just cannot afford to damage this box
[10:11] <lucian> gnomefreak: i have installed it earlier, + gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.4. after that i tried to install nvidia driver and this one wants gcc-3.4
[10:11] <mheath> zanga: There is also several free and popular instant messaging clients that allow you to connect to Yahoo's network
[10:11] <^Odd^> i really don't have the dosh to get more hardware if it fries
[10:11] <[Leo] > gnomefreak: yes... i give up! i'll try on #ubuntu+1......
[10:11] <mheath> zanga: A popular one (and included with Ubuntu) is GAIM, which supports many different protocols (including Yahoo)
[10:11] <proof_of_death> odd: that amount of temp increase won't ruin the box. it's negligible
[10:11] <Hexidigital> ^odd^, i wouldnt be concerned, but i'd keep an eye on that temp... if it continues to rise, then i'd panic
[10:11] <gnomefreak> lucian: what one did you install first 3.3?
[10:11] <^Odd^> ok
[10:11] <patty5222> soundray: yes i tried but it doesnt work
[10:12] <quadit> i understand where you're coming from. I think that as lond as you're under 85-90% of the rated heat range, you'll be ok
[10:12] <mheath> ^Odd^: The changes you mentioned are small and inconsequential. The bottom line is that they could be caused by any number of things.
[10:12] <mheath> They are minor. Don't worry.
[10:12] <^Odd^> i cranked the fans to max and am hopeing that they will bring the temps to "what i think" is the normal range lol
[10:12] <lucian> gnomefreak: all three of them
[10:12] <quadit> why not get rid of the O/C?
[10:12] <sYndax> ive been fighting like 5 hrs with the ubuntu install... :(
[10:12] <Hexidigital> ^odd^, i ran Novell on my system for about a day... my temp gages went out of control.... ran the case at 2 times what it SHOULD be at... i think if there was a problem, you'd immediately know it
[10:12] <^Odd^> right
[10:12] <sYndax> the 1st stage ends, it says it installs GRUB and then it reboots to my XP hdd... no matter what i try...
[10:12] <^Odd^> makes sence
[10:13] <^Odd^> i just have to be carefull you know
[10:13] <Ribs> ^Odd^: The hardware will give you plenty of warnings before anything major happens
[10:13] <gnomefreak> lucian: what does the command gcc --version tell you?
[10:13] <venox> proof_of_death: yes.
[10:13] <soundray> patty5222: can I pm you?
[10:13] <^Odd^> how i don't have any of the mainboard temps hooked up it all runs through the fan controller
[10:13] <quadit> I could toast bagels on thishere iMac
[10:13] <Ribs> ^Odd^: This sound silly, but try cleaning the computer out if it hasen't been cleaned in a while
[10:13] <protocol1> sYndax, whats your problem?
[10:13] <Ribs> ^Odd^: Lots of dust can gather there and make a difference
[10:13] <proof_of_death> venox: what are you using for authentication? does it just not connect, or does it deny you?
[10:13] <^Odd^> just cleaned it yesterday with a vacume hose
[10:13] <venox> I can ping the server, I can access internet with the server, I can access internet with my computer, everything is ok
[10:13] <patty5222> soundray: yes sure u can
[10:13] <Ribs> oh
[10:14] <lucian> gnomefreak: i have unistalled gcc-4.0, but i don't have gcc anymore. How can I install it without installing automatically gcc-4.0? I have also tried with sudo apt-get install gcc
[10:14] <^Odd^> yea i know i seen what lots of dust can do lol
[10:14] <sYndax> well... the 1st stage ends, i install ubunut to a diff hdd to i wont need to recover if case of an error...
[10:14] <^Odd^> i seen it so packed in a heatsink one time it caught fire
[10:14] <quadit> eep!
[10:14] <sYndax> i choose to install grub... and when it reboots... it loads XP straight again///
[10:14] <lucian> gnomefreak: i don't have gcc anymore
[10:14] <Hexidigital> hehe
[10:14] <sYndax> i tried rebooting that hdd specificly... it says "error loading operating system"...
[10:14] <Hexidigital> cool
[10:14] <venox> and I can't access the server's samba shares or the sshd
[10:14] <MrCollins> Odd you saw what catch fire
[10:14] <zanga> oooooo yes
[10:14] <zanga> i love ubuntu
[10:14] <zanga> :D
[10:14] <MrCollins> dust?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> lucian: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[10:14] <proof_of_death> venox: what are you using for authentication? does it just not connect, or does it deny you?
[10:14] <^Odd^> a dust packed heat sink
[10:14] <sYndax> and i didnt manage to recover grub... i dun think it was installed... and im lost...
[10:14] <quadit> ubuntu loves zanga
[10:15] <Cyorxamp> Hi I need to know the /dev/ttyS0 (type of thing) for a USB bus/device ID - any ideas?
[10:15] <^Odd^> for a cpu one time on a freinds box
[10:15] <rnd_null> is anyone in here familiar with samba connections?  i need some help configuring samba and using xsmbrowser.
[10:15] <patty5222> soundray: i cant talk in pm
[10:15] <Hexidigital> once i get it so i can connect to the civ 4 gamespy lobby (i have lots of intelligent friends there, who help me through stuff), i will ditch windoze completely!
[10:15] <dli> sYndax, boot ubuntu livecd, and reinstall grub
[10:15] <MrCollins> wow... I have been a PC hardware professional for 15 years, never saw that one!
[10:15] <soundray> patty5222: you aren't registered
[10:15] <venox> proof_of_death: it times out
[10:15] <sYndax> i tried... according to the steps in wiki wont work...
[10:15] <patty5222> how do i register
[10:15] <lucian> gnomefreak: i think it will work like that. Let me try it!
[10:15] <sYndax> the  find /boot thingie wont find a grub....
[10:15] <venox> proof_of_death: putty says "Network error: connection timed out."
[10:16] <dli> sYndax, give the wiki link?
[10:16] <quadit> I once displaced a fimily of mice from a packard bell
[10:16] <gnomefreak> thats the command for it it should work
[10:16] <sYndax> i tried that.... wont work... i also tried the super grub floppy... nuttin...
[10:16] <Hexidigital> quadit, that's great! :)
[10:16] <MrCollins> yeah I have seen mouse nests
[10:16] <Cyorxamp> my USB device is on ID 0ea0:6858 - can I look up what /dev/ location that is!!?
[10:16] <sYndax> i cant figure wuts the prob, even a direct boot to that hdd wont work...
[10:16] <proof_of_death> venox: uhhh, is there _anything_ between you and the server? a firewall? a router? did you install firestarter on the server?
[10:16] <^Odd^> i have not seen that before lol
[10:16] <dli> sYndax, never say "doesn't work"
[10:16] <ubuntu_> hi
[10:16] <dli> sYndax, be more specific to get help
[10:16] <ubuntu_> you ply murox
[10:16] <^Odd^> i have seen a snake get cooked in a power supply though
[10:16] <MrCollins> sYndax what is not working, what is the error
[10:16] <Hexidigital> !tell syndax about dosent work
[10:17] <quadit> Those mice were the best thing that ever happened to the packard bell brand
[10:17] <sYndax> ok ill do a recap...
[10:17] <^Odd^> roflmao
[10:17] <MrCollins> seriously, i opened a case once, 20 cockroachs scattered out
[10:17] <Cyorxamp> my USB device is on ID 0ea0:6858 - can I look up what /dev/ location that is!!?
[10:17] <Hexidigital> lol
[10:17] <dli> sYndax, first, what did you do? then, what are the outcomes
[10:17] <quadit> ugh!
[10:18] <sYndax> i have 2 hdds, 1 with XP and 1 which i install a fresh ubunto install. i choose to install grub... and when it reboots it loads my XP... i tried booting the ubuntu hdd directly but it says "error loading os..."
[10:18] <^Odd^> ok now i am worried i have the fans cranked and the system is not getting cooler O_o
[10:18] <away_man> kinit & joining machine to Win2k active directory works fine, but unable to authenticate my Win2k users to log into breezy.  Any ideas here?
[10:18] <quadit> I dug half a joint out of a slot-loading CD drive once
[10:18] <Hexidigital> ^odd^, is it getting warmer?
[10:18] <sYndax> i also tried to recover the grub from wiki link... nuttin...
[10:18] <^Odd^> no but not cooler either
[10:18] <venox> proof_of_death: hmm, yeah, I have firestarter installed there
[10:18] <^Odd^> the fans where at the start of this convo at there lowest setting
[10:18] <venox> but there's nothing between the computers but a hub :P hehe
[10:18] <MrCollins> sYndax what type of hard drives are they
[10:18] <sYndax> its like something is blocking the grub from installing... and i checked... no bootsector protection etc...
[10:18] <lucian> gnomefreak: how can i uninstall something, without uninstalling what depends on that something?
[10:18] <^Odd^> then i cranked it thinking it would bring the temps down
[10:18] <venox> ahhhh, I got it working
[10:18] <^Odd^> but nope there still the same O_o
[10:18] <proof_of_death> venox: you probably have those ports blocked in firestarter then then
[10:19] <sYndax> the XP is a sata2 wd160b... the ubuntu is ide100 80gb.
[10:19] <venox> hmmm, that's strange, firestarter wasn't running
[10:19] <dli> sYndax, how did you install grub? to which disk?
[10:19] <venox> does it launch any firestarter service with the machine? :P
[10:19] <Hexidigital> syndax, do you have dynamic drive for xp?
[10:19] <Hexidigital> or basic volumes?
[10:19] <proof_of_death> venox: if you have it installed, the firewall runs. it just doesn't show the gui
[10:19] <sYndax> i didnt choose... the install interface asked if u want grub, cuz XP was detected... i said yes...
[10:19] <MrCollins> sYndax sounds to me
[10:19] <venox> hmm
[10:19] <venox> hehe
[10:19] <proof_of_death> venox: either way, if it works now, go with it
[10:19] <venox> thanks ;)
[10:19] <MrCollins> like this is what you need to do
[10:19] <sYndax> both hdd are permanent but i choose to seperate installs incase of an error...
[10:20] <gnomefreak> lucian: what do you want to install?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> uninstall
[10:20] <proof_of_death> venox: np
[10:20] <venox> proof_of_death: do you know how I can make a service to be started with the system?
[10:20] <concept10> I need some help with a serious problem.  When I turn on my computer, the CD ROM is already accessing.  I cant stop it mount it.  Any suggestions?
[10:20] <Cyorxamp> my USB device is on ID 0ea0:6858 - can I look up what /dev/ location that is!!?
[10:20] <MrCollins> get your hard disc utility, like dtaa lifeguard
[10:20] <MrCollins> off the ultimate boot cd
[10:20] <venox> I mean, services that are on /etc/init.d/ but aren't on that service tool
[10:20] <zanga> is there a program or somthing that can make my ubuntu see the other drives witch are not linux formated ??
[10:20] <venox> (services-admin doesn't list them all)
[10:20] <Mabus06> how come my system is so laggy? I have a 2.8ghz processor and 1gb of ram, and no processes in the system log are using much of it at all. But gedit shortcut doesn't work, only gedit from terminal. Totem plays horribly out of sync, and lags like 30 seconds between items on the playlist. Rhythmbox is just as bad. Can anybody please give me some ideas?
[10:21] <^Odd^> ok cranked the fans and the cpu just now dropped to 108F
[10:21] <MrCollins> and re-install your sector 0 on hard drive
[10:21] <MrCollins> that way windows will boot
[10:21] <dli> Mabus06, anything in dmesg ?
[10:21] <Mabus06> dli: huh?
[10:21] <sYndax> windows is booting...
[10:21] <sYndax> ubuntu is not...
[10:21] <MrCollins> ok but ubuntu is not
[10:21] <concept10> Mabus06, as far as Totem is concerned, make sure DMA is enabled for your DVD rom : sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc (or what ever your device is)
[10:21] <MrCollins> ok..
[10:21] <dli> sYndax, you can install grub to the ubuntu disk
[10:21] <sYndax> eventhough it was suppoed to install gruv..
[10:22] <sYndax> eventhough it was supposed to install grub..
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> Am I being totally ignored?
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> Surely this can't be hard!
[10:22] <lucian> gnomefreak: i want to uninstall gcc-4.0-base and gcc-3.4-base
[10:22] <dli> sYndax, again, use "setup" in grub command line to install it
[10:22] <MrCollins> remember windows has a weird thing where it has to be the first sector of your hard disk.
[10:22] <Mabus06> concept10: but I'm not playing anything from my DVD rom, is that relevant?
[10:22] <serat0nin> hi
[10:22] <zanga> is there a program or somthing that can make my ubuntu see the other drives witch are not linux formated ??
[10:22] <sYndax> dli: all the recover steps didnt work for me... it didnt even detect the last install...
[10:22] <Hexidigital> zanga, ntfs partitions?
[10:22] <sYndax> perhaps it can see sata2 discs?
[10:22] <Hexidigital> !ntfs
[10:22] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:22] <gnomefreak> lucian: sudo apt-get remove gcc-4.0-base  says what?
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> ah screw you all
[10:22] <zanga> yes
[10:22] <proof_of_death> venox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootServices?highlight=%28services%29
[10:22] <MrCollins> Syndax... why not put both drives in Raid0 then format bnoth, install windows, install ubuntu
[10:22] <Hexidigital> !tell zanga about ntfs
[10:22] <serat0nin> im trying to install the latest 6.06 live cd and all the install went fine up until writing grub, then it just said grub error..
[10:23] <venox> proof_of_death: thanks :)))
[10:23] <dli> sYndax, you do what I said :( I don't care about what didn't work
[10:23] <serat0nin> any way to fix manually?
[10:23] <makaveli> whats the startup file for ubuntu. i want to remove couple services from it
[10:23] <concept10> Mabus06, well ensure DMA is enabled for your hard disk atleast
[10:23] <sYndax> i got some very sensitive info on the xp i rather keep it seperated...
[10:23] <sYndax> dli: so plz explain again...
[10:23] <fiveiron> ok i just deleted like 4gb of stuff by doing rm -Rf.... but when i df -h its like it is still there... is there a directory where deletd files go?
[10:23] <h0nus> hello again
[10:23] <zanga> 10x hexidigital
[10:23] <proof_of_death> venox: i don't know if that'll let you _add_ services, but it'll help you modify them
[10:23] <MrCollins> Syndax... why not put both drives in Raid0 then format bnoth, install windows, install ubuntu?
[10:23] <Hexidigital> 10x?
[10:23] <venox> heh
[10:23] <venox> yeah, thanks
[10:23] <sYndax> mrcollins: i got some very sensitive info on the xp i rather keep it seperated...
[10:23] <MrCollins> ah
[10:24] <sYndax> dli: live cd - terminal - sup -i - grub - setup ?
[10:24] <dli> sYndax, boot ubuntu livecd, run grub, in grub, find your boot partition, and run setup
[10:24] <makaveli> whats the startup file for ubuntu. i want to remove couple services from it
[10:24] <h0nus> i'm having trouble installing amsn if anyone has experience with it...
[10:24] <serat0nin> dli you meant to say that to me?
[10:24] <MrCollins> yeah
[10:24] <sYndax> how do i find it? find /boot/grub/stage1 ?
[10:24] <simon__> Hey
[10:24] <Mabus06> concept10: How can I find out what is my dvd device/hard disk (I have a few partitions that I think have different hd* labels.)
[10:25] <dli> sYndax, if you know a filename, "find /boot/grub.conf" , "find /vmlinuz", "find /etc/hosts"
[10:25] <simpo> how to set env variable ?
[10:25] <dli> sYndax, if you know all ubuntu partitions are in the same disk
[10:25] <sYndax> i tried find /boot/grub/stage1 like the wiki and i got file not found...
[10:25] <proof_of_death> venox: this might work for you: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149314&highlight=add+startup
[10:25] <Mabus06> dli: what were you saying about dmesg? What's that?
[10:25] <concept10> Mabus06, use System > Admin > Hardware manager. Look in the advanced tab.. you should see some info about it
[10:25] <proof_of_death> venox: but i don't think manually adding things to init.d is advisable
[10:26] <michal`> any of you been trying to run otg usb enclosure under linux
[10:26] <solid_liq> anyone know how to get the encryption certificate from Equifax?
[10:26] <michal`> linux
[10:26] <michal`> ?
[10:26] <sYndax> dli: XP is on a SATA2 disk... which also has the MBR... and ubuntu is on IDE1 slave...
[10:26] <michal`> just got one, from welland
[10:26] <venox> hmm yeah
[10:26] <dli> Mabus06, try whether you can run "ntpd" to sync, a good test
[10:26] <michal`> and it works under every os but linux
[10:26] <venox> I think that bum app will make the job nicely
[10:26] <dli> sYndax, "find /etc/hosts"
[10:26] <venox> I'll install it now and test heh
[10:26] <michal`> and casual one works 'just'
[10:26] <Mabus06> dli: ntpd, command not found
[10:26] <sYndax> but basicly, why wont it boot from the install hdd when i try to boot it via the bios?
[10:26] <Mabus06> concept10: thanks
[10:27] <zanga> were de i tipe all the ubuntu commands like"cd" and "wget" ??
[10:27] <concept10> zanga, the terminal
[10:27] <dli> Mabus06, apt-get install ntp-server, or something like that, if your mobo got some irq issue, ntpd will have difficulties in sync
[10:27] <zanga> concept10: 10x
[10:28] <sYndax> dli: can u plz explain wut 2 do...
[10:28] <concept10> zanga, what is 10x?
[10:28] <sYndax> dli: im kinda lost...
[10:28] <DarthShrine> Odd...Installed the libgtk2.0-dev package, and when trying to compile an app I made I get "gcc:  -lgtk-x11-2.0: No such file or directory"
[10:28] <zanga> thanx
[10:28] <MagicFa1> hello
[10:28] <dli> sYndax, in grub, run, "find /etc/hosts"
[10:28] <zanga> ten and x
[10:28] <zanga> thanx
[10:28] <zanga> :)
[10:28] <sYndax> and then?
[10:28] <concept10> heh, leet speak
[10:29] <MagicFa1> how can I get external VGA with different resolution on a laptop ?
[10:29] <^Odd^> oh and one other question how come in windows my 6.1 ac97 codec soundcard works fine in windows but in ubuntu it can only be use by one app at a time
[10:29] <dli> sYndax, also, mount your ubunut partition to double check you have kernel images
[10:29] <MagicFa1> (Averatec, driver is via)
[10:29] <dli> sYndax, what does it find?
[10:29] <sYndax> dli: im not that fluent with linux... it just finished intalling it via the dvd...
[10:29] <sYndax> i need 2 boot into livecd... im on xp now...
[10:29] <RamoneRCKR65> hello
[10:30] <sYndax> perhaps i boot into livecd and reconnect?
[10:30] <albinoblacksh33p> hi all
[10:30] <RamoneRCKR65> wats up
[10:30] <albinoblacksh33p> nutin'
[10:30] <dli> sYndax, I don't know windows
[10:30] <albinoblacksh33p> lol
[10:30] <RamoneRCKR65> lol
[10:30] <RamoneRCKR65> so whats everybody doin
[10:30] <albinoblacksh33p> windows rox
[10:30] <proof_of_death> my sox
[10:30] <albinoblacksh33p> i run ubuntu tho
[10:31] <dli> sYndax, what a stupid wiki to tell you to find /boot/stage1, if your grub hasn't been installed properly, you find nothing
[10:31] <albinoblacksh33p> /boot/sagel
[10:31] <albinoblacksh33p> ...
[10:31] <sYndax> dli: can u hang for a sec? ill reconnect from the livecd install?
[10:32] <adl> hey there, i got a problem burning a dvd with nautilus - it just says "some files have invalid filenames", where can i see easily what files this are? its a lot of little files i have to burn to this dvd and i dont want to check every single folder ...
[10:32] <sYndax> rebooting from the livecd... dli i brb.
[10:32] <zipper> !xgl
[10:32] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:32] <zanga> witch program lloks like winamp , or does what winamp used to do ??
[10:33] <adl> its actually the same if i try to create an image instead of burning it directly ...
[10:33] <adl> zanga: xmms
[10:33] <zanga> do i need any codecs to watch movies
[10:33] <ivoks> hi
[10:33] <ivoks> anyone with wifi card and dapper?
[10:33] <adl> zanga: if you're on gnome rhythmbox
[10:33] <dli> zanga, what movie?
[10:33] <ivoks> willing to test one software? :)
[10:33] <zanga> avi
[10:34] <zanga> adl were do i get xmms ??
[10:34] <dli> zanga, avi doesn't mean much, it's a container format, the real format can vary
[10:34] <adl> zanga, use synaptic to search for it
[10:34] <rob138> what fstab options do i put to make and ext2 writeable by all users?
[10:35] <zanga> it`s my first day of ubuntu
[10:35] <adl> its in the default repositories afaik
[10:35] <ivoks> rob138: none
[10:35] <rob138> ivoks, i cant?
[10:35] <ivoks> rob138: chown/chmod are tools you need
[10:35] <zanga> thats why i`m asking all kinds of questions
[10:35] <adl> zanga, go to system -> administration -> synaptic
[10:35] <rob138> oh
[10:35] <mheath> rob138: You can do that via fstab, but thats not the best way. Use privs.
[10:35] <bruce_> hi I can write dvd with gnomebaker or k3b does someone can explain me how to do it?
[10:35] <zanga> ok
[10:35] <adl> you are asked to give your password then
[10:35] <rob138> okay, what should i do to make it writeable at boot then?
[10:35] <soundray> bruce_: k3b works for DVDs here.
[10:36] <adl> in synaptic you find a lot of applications you may want to install ;)
[10:36] <soundray> rob138: for every user?
[10:36] <ivoks> rob138: no, ext2/ext3/xfs/all_unix_filesystems preserve ACL
[10:36] <ivoks> rob138: so, you mount drive
[10:36] <zanga> and in witch category is xmms ??
[10:36] <ivoks> rob138: and make it 777
[10:36] <ivoks> rob138: for example
[10:36] <rob138> ivoks, okay...
[10:36] <ivoks> rob138: mount /mnt/my_ext2
[10:36] <adl> use the search-function, i never use the categories to find what i am looking for
[10:37] <bruce_> what do you mean by K"b work for dvd?
[10:37] <ivoks> rob138: chmod 777 /mnt/my_ext2
[10:37] <ivoks> rob138: on reboot, all users will be able to write on it
[10:37] <bruce_> both of them show me an error when I want to burn
[10:37] <rob138> okay
[10:37] <zanga> adl
[10:37] <rob138> ivoks, should i leave this in my fstab: /dev/sda1 	/media/sda1 	ext2 	defaults	0	0
[10:38] <zanga> it dident find xmms
[10:38] <ivoks> rob138: yes
[10:38] <rob138> alright
[10:38] <ivoks> rob138: now mount it
[10:38] <adl> bruce_, i am also getting an error when trying to burn a selection of little files to a dvd ... it keeps nagging about "invalid filenames", i am using nautilus here ...
[10:38] <ivoks> rob138: and do chmod
[10:38] <ivoks> rob138: from that point, all users are able to write on it
[10:38] <adl> zanga, wait a second, i check for the repository
[10:38] <ivoks> rob138: even after remount/reboot
[10:38] <rob138> how do i unmount it?
[10:38] <ivoks> rob138: umount /media/sda1
[10:38] <bruce_> o an the default system that ubuntu use (nautilus I suppose) also show me an error
[10:39] <zanga> ok adl
[10:39] <Julian> hello
[10:39] <rob138> ivoks, okay
[10:39] <ivoks> rob138: "hack" in fstab is only for non-unix filesystems
[10:39] <glitch> where do I setup users and passwords for an ftp such as vsftpd?
[10:39] <rob138> ivoks, i did the chmod and unmount and remounted but still cant write
[10:39] <bruce_> something about my dvd witch is not mounted
[10:40] <adl> zanga, are you on breezy or on dapper?
[10:40] <ivoks> glitch: vsftpd uses unix users
[10:40] <zanga> hmmm
[10:40] <ivoks> rob138: sure you can
[10:40] <glitch> ah
[10:40] <zanga> what are those
[10:40] <zanga> ?
[10:40] <rob138> ivoks, do i have to reboot?
[10:40] <ivoks> rob138: you did something wrong then :)
[10:40] <ivoks> rob138: you don't have to unmount it
[10:40] <glitch> any recommendations for a secure normal ftp server?
[10:40] <ivoks> rob138: look
[10:40] <ivoks> rob138: mount /dev/sda1
[10:40] <zanga> adl just explain step by step
[10:40] <ivoks> rob138: chmod 777 /dev/sda1
[10:40] <ivoks> rob138: then (as a user) mkdir /dev/sda1/test_dir
[10:41] <HymnToLife> glitch> vsftpd (that's the one I use)
[10:41] <adl> zanga, look there: http://icefox.info/breezy.html#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28XMMS.29
[10:41] <ivoks> glitch: you want virtual users?
[10:41] <zanga> ok
[10:41] <glitch> yes
[10:41] <dli> ivoks, mkdir /dev/sda1/test_dir ?
[10:41] <ivoks> dli: :)
[10:41] <ivoks> dli: thanks :)
[10:41] <sYndax> dli: im here again...
[10:42] <patty5222> i was just looking at the flight5 page and i saw a programe called the "widget factory" where abouts is this on dapper drake
[10:42] <ivoks> rob138: replace /dev/sda1 with /media/sda1 in my instructions :)
[10:42] <rob138> ivoks, i am guessing you meant /media/sda1, and i was able to do that, but nautalis won't allow me to paste anything, and it says the only permissions for write are  root
[10:42] <ivoks> rob138: do you have other dirs in /media/sda1?
[10:42] <ivoks> glitch: proftpd
[10:42] <afroman> hey
[10:43] <rob138> Lost+Found
[10:43] <glitch> thanks ivoks
[10:43] <afroman> where are you people from
[10:43] <dli> afroman, freaks around the world
[10:43] <ivoks> glitch: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-VirtualUsers.html
[10:43] <ivoks> rob138: hm...
[10:43] <loggygreg> does resize2fs  can resize ext3 fs ?
[10:43] <rob138> ivoks,  i'm able to drag and drop, but for some reason not copy and paste
[10:44] <SoBeIcedT> how do i make an app start on boot?, in gentoo i just used rc-update add xyz
[10:44] <ivoks> rob138: copy and paste?
[10:44] <[peruvien] > is there nothing like autocad for linux??
[10:44] <sYndax> dli: wut 2 do now...
[10:44] <rob138> ivoks, like right click and copy, then paste into /media/sda1
[10:44] <dli> SoBeIcedT, update-rc.d add foo defaults
[10:44] <SoBeIcedT> thanks
[10:44] <[peruvien] > hi... sorry is there nothing like autocad for linux?
[10:44] <ivoks> rob138: sure you can...
[10:45] <dli> sYndax, in grub, "find /etc/hosts"
[10:45] <ivoks> rob138: maybe the thing you are trying to copy isn't owned by your user
[10:45] <adl> [peruvien] , nothing really like it, but there are cad-applications for linux
[10:45] <sYndax> error 15: file not found.
[10:45] <zanga> adl
[10:45] <rob138> it's "my pictures" in /home/rob
[10:45] <[peruvien] > adl, like what
[10:45] <adl> [peruvien] , maybe try googleing for it or search the repositories
[10:45] <zanga> it`s kind of a little harder then i tought
[10:45] <zanga> :(
[10:45] <rob138> ivoks, i was able to drag and drop, but not copy and paste, it's not big deal
[10:45] <ivoks> glitch: vsftpd can handle virtual users too!
[10:45] <patty5222> where can get cedega
[10:46] <ivoks> rob138: strange...
[10:46] <proof_of_death> rob: were you running that version of nautilus in root or something?
[10:46] <[peruvien] > adl, people said me that Qcad is the most closer.. isn't it?
[10:46] <adl> [peruvien] , like qcad
[10:46] <ivoks> glitch: go with vsftpd
[10:46] <sYndax> dli: error 15 file not found..
[10:46] <ivoks> glitch: it will be supported for years in ubuntu
[10:46] <rob138> ivoks, thanks for your help
[10:46] <adl> [peruvien] , maybe it is, i never used autocad, and also not qcad
[10:46] <linuxeatswindows> i need help with getting compiz on aiglx to work on dapper
[10:47] <ivoks> rob138: np
[10:47] <dli> sYndax, "find /etc/hosts"
[10:47] <adl> zanga, have you tried to read beginners advisories or some how tos?
[10:47] <linuxeatswindows> where can we paste our erro messages?
[10:47] <sYndax> dli: i did that, it replied "error 15: file not found"
[10:47] <Darky> How Can i extract .RAR files?
[10:47] <dli> sYndax, can you mount your ubuntu partition?
[10:47] <adl> Darky, use unrar
[10:47] <proof_of_death> darky: you need to install unrar
[10:48] <[peruvien] > adl, thank
[10:48] <dli> Darky, unrar -e foo.rar
[10:48] <sYndax> uhm... dunno... how do i do that?
[10:48] <adl> [peruvien] , you're welcome
[10:48] <linuxeatswindows>  /usr/bin/compiz-aiglx: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed.
[10:48] <Darky> K Tnx :)
[10:48] <zanga> adl
[10:48] <linuxeatswindows> what does that mean?
[10:48] <dli> sYndax, ls /proc/ide/
[10:48] <zanga> it says this "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:48] <zanga> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:48] <zanga> "
[10:48] <aridese> can i open *.vob files in ubuntu?
[10:49] <trappist> aridese: with mplayer
[10:49] <GigaClon> or gedit
[10:49] <dli> sYndax, find out the hdd for ubuntu, "fdisk -l " it to find partitions, and mount
[10:49] <yamathan> I'm having a little difficulty with my ISP at the moment.  >:
[10:49] <trappist> GigaClon: gedit?
[10:49] <jind> zanga: you either have synaptic/adept running, or apt-get in a terminal
[10:49] <yamathan> Shouldn't an ISP simply give you the DNS and hostnames for the server, no questions asked, if you're a paying customer?
[10:49] <linuxeatswindows> or vlc player
[10:49] <GigaClon> yeah
[10:49] <tkup> is it possible to disable inet6 (ipv6) from the looppack interface at all?
[10:50] <dli> aridese, if you just want to play dvd, mplayer, xine, totem can all play dvd :)
[10:50] <yamathan> They reset my router instead of asking me about my preferred ports.
[10:50] <joe_> does any one no why I can't burn  DVD is it beceause I enabled the DMA
[10:50] <joe_> ?
[10:50] <sYndax> ls gives me hda hbd hdc hdd ide0 idel
[10:50] <sYndax> dli: ls gives me hda hbd hdc hdd ide0 idel
[10:50] <aridese> ok thanks
[10:50] <yamathan> In addition to that, they enabled their own username and password.
[10:50] <yamathan> Should I raise Hell over this?
[10:50] <sYndax> fdisk -l wont do nuttin...
[10:50] <yamathan> *own username and password on the router
[10:51] <dli> sYndax, you have to study /proc/ide, find the disk for ubuntu installation
[10:51] <linuxeatswindows> anyone know how to fix this ashley@home:~$ /usr/bin/compiz-aiglx: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed.
[10:51] <sYndax> dli: how do i do that?
[10:52] <dli> sYndax, ls, cat, understand directories there, and do something like, "
[10:52] <dli> cat /proc/ide/ide1/hdc/model" to find out the model
[10:53] <ludi> Hi I need help with an upgrade to dapper.
[10:53] <ludi> when my system boots it hangs when loading the PCMCIA services
[10:53] <dli> ludi, is it released?
[10:53] <solid_liq> anyone know how to get the encryption certificate from Equifax?  I need it for verification for GMail for fetchmail
[10:53] <ludi> dli: no it's not released
[10:53] <linuxeatswindows> me too ludi i don't get pci services
[10:53] <dli> ludi, don't load pcmcia then, remove it in kernel, and update-rc.d -f pcmcia remove
[10:54] <ludi> linuxeatswindows:  I need help getting rid of pcmica services
[10:54] <ludi> dli: ^
[10:54] <ludi> how do I take out pcmcia services, since my system won't boot?
[10:54] <_jason> anyone know how to open .dcm files?  They appear to be some sort of image format
[10:54] <linuxeatswindows> couldn't you use the install cd
[10:54] <linuxeatswindows> and sh into your install
[10:54] <dli> ludi, read ubuntu documents, you can boot ubuntu livecd
[10:54] <Archy_> hi
[10:55] <Archy_> Can anyone help me?
[10:55] <ludi> linuxeatswindows:  I am booted on another hard drive in my system and have my ubuntu HD mounted right now.
[10:55] <linuxeatswindows> then run that command dli said
[10:55] <DarthShrine> Would anyone know why after I installed the libgtk2.0-dev package, tried to compile an app I made, I get "gcc:  -lgtk-x11-2.0: No such file or directory"? Are there any other packages I need?
[10:55] <Archy_> I just downloaded ubuntu 5.1
[10:55] <dli> linuxeatswindows, in livecd? you have to chroot
[10:55] <Archy_> i need help downloading thunderbird 1.5
[10:55] <linuxeatswindows> in install cd
[10:55] <h0nus> can anyone help me with sound? i have none =(
[10:56] <ludi> dli:  how would I do that?  I have booted into debian which is on another hard drive in my system.  I can mount my ubuntu dapper hard drive from here.
[10:56] <linuxeatswindows> it does it for you
[10:56] <h0nus> i've been to three troubleshooting sites
[10:56] <linuxeatswindows> choose rescue
[10:56] <h0nus> no change
[10:56] <DarthShrine> h0nus, What chipset ya got?
[10:56] <Archy_> thunderbird-1.5.tar.gz is what I downloaded..
[10:56] <DarthShrine> Or sound card as the case may be :)
[10:56] <linuxeatswindows> sh or chroot im not sure but i thought it was sh
[10:56] <ludi> I don't have the CD right now
[10:56] <h0nus> alsamixer says SigmaTel STAC9721/23
[10:57] <ludi> isn't there a way to take out PCMCIA by mounting the ubuntu dapper hard drive?
[10:57] <dli> ludi, go to /etc of the ubuntu partition, less inittab to find the default runlevel, (should be 2 by default), then, cd rc2.d, remove all filenames contains pcmcia
[10:57] <DarthShrine> h0nus, So all the drivers are loaded etc?
[10:57] <h0nus> DarthShrine, I believe so...
[10:57] <Darky> i got the unrar... my file have password how can i crack it?
[10:57] <DarthShrine> h0nus, Odd, well...I dunno. Good luck.
[10:57] <h0nus> o_0
[10:58] <Darky> i got the unrar... my file have password how can i crack it?
[10:58] <ludi> dli:  like this?  ls -l *pcmcia*
[10:58] <ludi> dli: when I run that command, I get nothing
[10:58] <_jason> Darky: do you know the password?
[10:58] <Darky> no
[10:59] <yamathan> Why can't I http:// my router in Linux?
[10:59] <_jason> Darky: then the file isn't for you :)
[10:59] <Darky> haha
[10:59] <mheath> Wow, http:// is a verb? Never knew that.
[10:59] <Darky> any one?
[10:59] <Darky> help
[10:59] <dli> ludi, or go to /etc/init.d/ (of ubuntu), mv pcmcia pcmcia.bak , a temporary work around
[10:59] <Darky> i got the unrar... my file have password how can i crack it?
[10:59] <yamathan> mheath, shaddup.
[11:00] <yamathan> Seriously, why can't I do that in Ubuntu?
[11:00] <mheath> yamathan: Just joking. :) Whats the error - no route to host?
[11:00] <_jason> Darky: seriously, this isn't the channel for that
[11:00] <dli> ludi, and cd /etc (of ubuntu), remove all pcmcia modules in /etc/modules
[11:00] <Darky> ok
[11:00] <mheath> Well, lets start with this - what happens when you try to ping your router?
[11:00] <Blippe> Darky, there are some bruteforce crackers in the repos
[11:00] <sYndax> any chance i can install a diff bootmanager other that grub? ne1 knows a good one?
[11:00] <epinephrine> what's wrong with grub?
[11:01] <ludi> dli: /etc/modules contains no pcmcia entries
[11:01] <dli> ludi, or, you compile a kernel in debian without pcmcia
[11:01] <Blippe> sYndax, lilo seems to have been kind of popular before grub...
[11:01] <mheath> sYndax: LILO is popular, but there is really no reason to replace GRUB.
[11:01] <dli> ludi, pcmcia doesn't necessarily be named pcmcia as modules
[11:01] <mheath> sYndax: installing LILO might break things like automatic kernel upgrades and such
[11:01] <ludi> dli: ide-cd
[11:01] <ludi> ide-disk
[11:01] <ludi> ide-generic
[11:01] <ludi> psmouse
[11:01] <ludi> nvidia
[11:01] <yamathan> Oy.
[11:02] <h0nus> anyone know of another room where i can troubleshoot my sound issues?
[11:02] <ludi> dli: should I try it now?
[11:02] <yamathan> Sweet Sweden, how many times is "ping" going to ping the router?
[11:02] <dli> ludi, to compile your own kernel is better
[11:02] <yamathan> It's done it, oh, 90 times already.  O_o
[11:02] <mheath> yamathan: infinitely unless you specified otherwise when you typed in the command.
[11:02] <ludi> dli: I have never compiled a kernel before
[11:02] <yamathan> Ah.
[11:02] <mheath> yamathan: Hit CTRL+X
[11:02] <yamathan> That would do it.
[11:02] <ludi> dli: isn't that dangerous?
[11:03] <dli> ludi, then, give it a try
[11:03] <sYndax> i cant get grub to work i did the ubunto install wizard like 5 times already...
[11:03] <sYndax> but the diff between format parition and format parition with LVM>
[11:03] <mheath> yamathan: OK. Now, try this for me: "telnet routers_ip"
[11:03] <sYndax> ?
[11:03] <mheath> er
[11:03] <mheath> yamathan: OK. Now, try this for me: "telnet routers_ip 80"
[11:03] <dli> sYndax, found your ubuntu partition in livecd?
[11:03] <ludi> dli: but if what I've done already prevents pcmcia from loading and I can boot into dapper, then I shouldn't need to compile kernel right?
[11:03] <dli> ludi, compiling your own kernel is better, but not necessary
[11:04] <mheath> yamathan: Does it do nothing, or does it say "connection refused"?
[11:04] <yamathan> "could not resolve routers_ip/80:  Name or service not known."
[11:04] <sYndax> not yet...
[11:04] <ludi> alright I'm going to reboot and try this out
[11:04] <yamathan> mheath:  "could not resolve routers_ip/80:  Name or service not known."
[11:05] <mheath> yamathan: .....
[11:05] <patty5222>  i download the timedemo_installer of cedega which is a bin file but im having problems to install it
[11:05] <mheath> Replace routers_ip with your routers IP address, please.
[11:05] <sYndax> dli: i only seem to find my dvdrw drivers...
[11:05] <yamathan> OH.  O_o;;
[11:05] <patty5222> he problem is after uncompressing i get this  "/home/patrick/.setup11043: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[11:05] <sYndax> how do i axx the hda hdc hdc etc...?
[11:06] <solid_liq> !gmail
[11:06] <dli> sYndax, you have 4 disks found
[11:06] <yamathan> mheath, it connected and then "Connection closed by foreign host".
[11:06] <dli> sYndax, you check one by one
[11:06] <yamathan> *then spat
[11:06] <sYndax> cat /proc/hda/model ?
[11:07] <dli> sYndax, one by one
[11:07] <zanga> how do i remove a program
[11:07] <zanga> ??
[11:07] <sYndax> but how do u check hda etc?
[11:07] <dli> zanga, sudo apt-get remove foo
[11:07] <sYndax> can u gimme the command?
[11:07] <papillion> apt-get remove x
[11:07] <h0nus> the process gnome-cd is taking up almost all my cpu resources-- what is this process and is it safe to shutdown?
[11:08] <dli> sYndax, if you do ls in /proc/ide/, you can find /proc/ide/hda/model
[11:09] <zanga> is there winamp for ubuntu or do i need to install a diferent program ??
[11:09] <sYndax> i found it... but it wont see my SATA drive...
[11:09] <mallox> hi all:)
[11:09] <sYndax> perhaps that the prob? the ubuntu install cannot write the grub on the disk with the mbr with is a SATA drive?
[11:09] <dli> sYndax, I don't care, you only need your ubuntu disk
[11:09] <ptlo> zanga: xmms is very similar (in looks, and philosophy) to winamp2
[11:10] <mallox> need help with sources..want to install xgl and compriz..:)
[11:10] <zanga> ptlo i tryed installing it and i can`t figure it out
[11:10] <happy_mac> hi all - any PPC users?
[11:10] <zanga> cauld u ecplain
[11:10] <zanga> ??
[11:10] <sYndax> dli: but the disc that boots first, the one with the MBR is a SATA drive... putting the grub on a disc that wont boot 1st wont do any good...
[11:10] <cyphase> *sigh*
[11:10] <ArIeZ> where do you get xmms
[11:10] <cyphase> Firefox 2 is going to come out right after Dapper
[11:11] <dli> sYndax, you can boot other hdds by setting boot order in BIOS
[11:11] <Cyorxamp> cyphase, I sure hope dapper can easily install firefox 2
[11:11] <ptlo> zanga: before that, i should tell you that mp3 algorithm is patented, so you don't get it in ubuntu by default. however you can install the neccessary codecs from the universe repositories.
[11:11] <Cyorxamp> not like 5.10 and 1.5 of firefox
[11:11] <ptlo> !tell zanga about RestrictedFormats
[11:11] <sYndax> but i have alot of info on that sata and i wanna mount it from ubuntu... wont that be possible?
[11:11] <sYndax> ubuntu cannot read sata?
[11:11] <patty5222>  i download the timedemo_installer of cedega which is a bin file but im having problems to install it
[11:11] <patty5222> he problem is after uncompressing i get this  "/home/patrick/.setup11043: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[11:11] <sYndax> on the install it "saw" the sata drives...
[11:11] <dli> sYndax, we are talking about getting you boot ubuntu with grub
[11:12] <ptlo> zanga: apart from that, you just go to synaptic, search for 'xmms' , check it, and click to install
[11:12] <sYndax> yes, but booting so i can also see additional sata drives...
[11:12] <ifz> hello, pplz! i need help
[11:12] <ptlo> zanga: other popular music players include rhythmbox or, if you're Kubuntu user, amaroK
[11:12] <mallox> somebody has worked xgl and compriz?
[11:12] <sYndax> dli: yes, but booting so i can also see additional sata drives...
[11:12] <cyphase> zanga, or go to Applications -> Add Applications
[11:12] <happy_mac> so I'm guessing no PPC?
[11:12] <ifz> pplz, what is "broken pakkage" help me..
[11:13] <dli> sYndax, fdisk -l /dev/hda , (if hda is your ubuntu disk), find out partitions
[11:13] <mallox> ifz not correctly installed
[11:13] <korhalf> can anyone here help me
[11:13] <korhalf> i have an old laptop, pentium, NEC Versa 6050
[11:13] <dli> korhalf, never ask to ask :(
[11:13] <borky> hey, i was wondering, how do you install ubuntu onto an external drive
[11:13] <dli> korhalf, antique show :)
[11:14] <sYndax> dli: error cannot open...
[11:14] <blekos> hello ppl
[11:14] <ifz> mallox, c amarok: : amarok-gstreamer     . E: Broken pakkages
[11:14] <dli> borky, external disk is /dev/sda (or something like)
[11:14] <korhalf> dli, heres the problem
[11:14] <korhalf> dli, i can either have the floppy drive in or the cdrom drive in the bay
[11:14] <borky> in the debian installer, just type that in?
[11:14] <blekos> do u knowhow i can use c# in linux?
[11:14] <mallox> ifz..instaliruji cerez synamptic
[11:14] <korhalf> not both at the same time, and delilinux, nor ubuntu or anything will boot up (and the boot sequence in the BIOS is correct)
[11:14] <dli> sYndax, you found your ubuntu disk? you figure out how to find partitions on it
[11:14] <blekos> that is ubuntu
[11:14] <solid_liq> mallox: www.mono.org
[11:15] <borky> thank you, i'll give it a try dli
[11:15] <korhalf> so i need to use the floppy
[11:15] <ifz> mallox, oo ty russkiy?
[11:15] <korhalf> is it possible to copy the contents of the floppy to the harddrive
[11:15] <korhalf> boot from harddrive
[11:15] <dli> korhalf, what problem? who needs floppy?
[11:15] <zanga> ptlo
[11:15] <ifz> mallox, cherez synaptic takaya je erunda
[11:15] <zanga> i use ubuntu
[11:15] <korhalf> put my cdrom in, then copy the contents of the cdrom after mounting and put it over the harddrive
[11:15] <korhalf> then install off that?
[11:15] <zanga> so what do i need ti install
[11:15] <dli> borky, to figure out grub on it might be tricky
[11:15] <zanga> ??
[11:15] <sYndax> i found my ubuntu disc, its /proc/ide/hdb
[11:15] <mallox> ifz..po drugomu sloznee..:)
[11:15] <korhalf> dli, can i just msg you this is too confusing here..
[11:15] <dli> sYndax, fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[11:16] <mallox> solid_liq unable to connect
[11:16] <qatsi> can anyone in here help me with some X issues ?
[11:16] <eirejah> hello peeps can anyone tell me if ubuntu includes a cd burner on the install ?
[11:16] <dli> korhalf, sure
[11:16] <eirejah> qatsi: whats up
[11:16] <holobyted> I get crappy sound w/ mplayer-mozilla, but mplayer itself gives okay sound - what's going on?
[11:16] <ifz> mallox, no tam toje samoe pishet "slomannye pakety"
[11:16] <sYndax> cannot open /dev/hdb
[11:16] <sYndax> perhaps a su us needed?
[11:16] <solid_liq> mallox: sorry, www.mono-project.org
[11:16] <ifz> mallox, chto delat'? a im newbie :) pomogi russaku :)
[11:16] <sYndax> dli: perhaps a su is needed?
[11:16] <qatsi> eirejah: well, i tried installing all the xgl stuff, but it didnt work...so now im going back. The thing is that i cant start x as a user, but i can as root
[11:17] <dli> sYndax, stupid ubuntu sudo, try, sudo -
[11:17] <pier> folks, maybe, a veryveryveryFAQ... is there a way to remove those buggish messages from the log ? Feb 25 14:47:32 localhost gconfd (dave-5404): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0
[11:17] <dli> sYndax, sudo -i
[11:17] <mallox> solid_liq, thx
[11:17] <qatsi> eirejah: in the X log file ive noticed some strange stuff like: Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0
[11:17] <sYndax> i got hdb1/hdb2/hdb5
[11:17] <mallox> ifz, cerez synamptic odstrani broken i nainstaliruj snova:)
[11:18] <sYndax> linux / extended / linux lvm
[11:18] <joseph> hey when I upgrade to dapper am I going to get the opengl enhanced stuff for gnome?
[11:18] <Cyorxamp> Hi folks, I need to look up the /dev/ location of my USB device..... lsusb can see it - anyone know how!?!!
[11:18] <eirejah> qatsi: sorry i cant help you with those things :/
[11:18] <qatsi> joseph: as far as i know, you will but untill june
[11:18] <eirejah> i dont know
[11:18] <joseph> qatsi: huh?
[11:18] <qatsi> eirejah: well, thanx anyway :)
[11:18] <eirejah> np :)
[11:18] <ifz> mallox, a pochemu cherez apt-get ne poluchaetsya? ranshe rabotalo ved' :(
[11:18] <eirejah> hello peeps can anyone tell me if ubuntu includes a cd burner on the install ?
[11:19] <dli> sYndax, mount to find your ubuntu files
[11:19] <joseph> qatsi: I'm upgrading to dapper right now.
[11:19] <mallox> ifz, u teba dapper ili breezy?
[11:19] <Hexidigital> !ftp
[11:19] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[11:19] <qatsi> joseph: but its not the final version, you might be getting flight 4, the beta test
[11:19] <pier> !gconf-bugged-log
[11:19] <joseph> qatsi: yea I know it's not the final version.
[11:19] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pier
[11:19] <ifz> mallox, breezy
[11:19] <Cyorxamp> Hi folks, I need to look up the /dev/ location of my USB device..... lsusb can see it - anyone know how!?!!
[11:19] <mallox> solid_liq, why did u send me these link?
[11:19] <sYndax> /dev/hdb1/ has a little "*" and it says boot...
[11:19] <joseph> qatsi: but my question is do I need to manually add the packages for the opengl stuff, or does it automatically get added?
[11:19] <Hexidigital> !proftpd
[11:19] <sYndax> how do i mount?
[11:19] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hexidigital
[11:20] <qatsi> joseph: well, im not shure but i think you will get the compiz stuff installed
[11:20] <Hexidigital> anyone know of an apt-get command for proftpd?
[11:20] <Cyorxamp> Hi folks, I need to look up the /dev/ location of my USB device..... lsusb can see it - anyone know how!?!!
[11:20] <h0nus> Anyone know where I can find Soundblaster Audigy 2 drivers for linux?
[11:20] <eirejah> anyone ?
[11:20] <qatsi> joseph: sorry !! i didnt read the opengl stuff, i thought you were talking about xgl and compiz
[11:20] <mallox> ifz, znacit sources izmenilis:)
[11:20] <simosx> Cyorxamp: "lsusb" can see it? so no problem?
[11:20] <eirejah> im trying to find a cd burner on ubuntu
[11:20] <eirejah> is there one
[11:20] <ifz> mallox, synaptic vot s etix ne mpjet poluchit' http://debian.thermoman.de/dists/woody/Release.gpg:    IP   debian.thermoman.de
[11:20] <ifz> http://debian.thermoman.de/dists/woody/sim/binary-i386/Packages.gz:    IP   debian.thermoman.de
[11:20] <ifz> http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/plf/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 302 Moved Temporarily [IP: 203.16.234.91 80] 
[11:20] <ifz> http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/plf/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 302 Moved Temporarily [IP: 203.16.234.91 80] 
[11:20] <joseph> qatsi:  I think I mean xgl and compiz...isn't that opengl?
[11:20] <ifz> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz:   gzip    (1)
[11:21] <Cyorxamp> simosx, yes problem... I need to /dev/ location
[11:21] <Cyorxamp> *the
[11:21] <simosx> joseph: indeed
[11:21] <Cyorxamp> ifz - don't paste here
[11:21] <ifz> mallox, a gde naiti novye? :(
[11:21] <sYndax> dli: /dev/hdb1/ has a little "*" and it says boot... (how do i mount) ?
[11:21] <simosx> Cyorxamp: Type "dmesg" and check the results. It should show the default.
[11:21] <ifz> Cyorxamp, PL
[11:21] <ifz> Cyorxamp, OK
[11:21] <qatsi> joseph: well, part of the graphical processor.....but yes you will, i dont know how stable they are....:) so im waiting till june
[11:21] <dli> sYndax, mount it, check files
[11:21] <zanga> can i install winamp in ubuntu
[11:21] <zanga> ??
[11:21] <mallox> qatsi, do u know something about compriz and xgl?
[11:21] <eirejah> ifz: please dont paste in here
[11:22] <sYndax> wuts the mount cmd...
[11:22] <Cyorxamp> simosx, it shows a load of shit - what am i looking for?
[11:22] <simosx> zanga: Look for "Beep Media Player".
[11:22] <simosx> Cyorxamp: language
[11:22] <mallox> ifz, kdeto na nete..poprobuj wiki.ubuntu.com..
[11:22] <ifz> eirejah, OK
[11:22] <joseph> My question is this:  What is the difference between someone that does an install of dapper onto a clean hard drive versus someone that does an install of 5.10 and then upgrades to dapper?  I'm wondering if all the same packages would be installed in each case.
[11:22] <kingspawn> !pl
[11:22] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:22] <Cyorxamp> joseph, you would think so wouldn't you
[11:23] <eirejah> ifz: you can use www.pastebin.com  :) and give everyone one the link
[11:23] <joseph> Cyorxamp: seriously
[11:23] <eirejah> anyone know of a cd burner on ubuntu ?
[11:23] <Cyorxamp> joseph, yup
[11:23] <Cyorxamp> seriously
[11:23] <kingspawn> eirejah: k3b is good
[11:23] <pier> EinZteiN, gnomebaker
[11:23] <simosx> joseph: When updating, updated packages will be installed in place of the old ones. Almost all packages will be updated, keeping your system settings.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> eirejah: gnomebaker k3b
[11:23] <mallox> eirejah, k3b
[11:23] <pier> eirejah, even
[11:23] <sYndax> dli: wuts the mount cmd...
[11:23] <sebastian> Can anyone help me with VMware player?  I have installed it and Qemu.  I have been experimenting with the vmx file, but everything I have tryed has given me an error.  I want to install Windows 2000 Pro into Breezy.
[11:23] <Cyorxamp> Hi folks, I need to look up the /dev/ location of my USB device..... lsusb can see it - anyone know how!?!!
[11:23] <eirejah> thanks
[11:24] <joseph> Cyorxamp: but for example, 5.10 uses the xine backend for totem.  Whereas dapper uses gstreamer.  So when upgrading from 5.10 to dapper, would it just update xine to the newer version, or would it be smart enough to remove xine and replace it with gstreamer.  Get my point?
[11:24] <dli> sYndax, man mount, like, "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/boot"
[11:24] <joseph> simosx: ^
[11:24] <Cyorxamp> joseph, yup I get your point... but I don't know what would happen
[11:24] <qatsi> eirejah: Nautilus CD Burner maybe ?
[11:24] <mivecz> simosx i want  to make a  linux floppy to start  ubuntu and   stasrt  the winxp  from hard disk  how  i  configure  the  grub
[11:24] <sYndax> dli: mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:25] <dli> sYndax, I said, "man mount"
[11:25] <sebastian> Can anyone help me with VMware player?  I have installed it and Qemu.  I have been experimenting with the vmx file, but everything I have tryed has given me an error.  I want to install Windows 2000 Pro into Breezy.
[11:25] <joseph> see I think that upgrades aren't smart enough to re-align your packages to match the default setup of the newer version.  Upgrades just take whatever you have from the old version and update them to the newer version of those same packages.
[11:25] <eirejah> thanks qatsi :)
[11:25] <mallox> bye
[11:25] <zanga> do i need to install anithing besides beep media player to listen to mp3` s ??
[11:25] <InnerF|RE> !elm
[11:25] <ubotu> InnerF|RE: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:26] <sYndax> it gives me the manuall...
[11:26] <qatsi> zanga: as far as i know, the gstreamer-.08
[11:26] <InnerF|RE> !pine
[11:26] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, InnerF|RE
[11:26] <InnerF|RE> wtf
[11:26] <Hexidigital> can someone ping an address for me?  i need to see if ftp is available from "outside"
[11:26] <zanga> ok
[11:26] <zanga> 10x
[11:26] <mivecz> simosx i want  to make a  linux floppy to start  ubuntu and   stasrt  the winxp  from hard disk  how  i  configure  the  grub
[11:26] <Hexidigital> zanga, pm me
[11:26] <souhail> salam
[11:27] <pier> bim
[11:27] <qatsi> zanga: sorry, gstreamer-.08-mad or something like that...thats the one who plays the mp3s
[11:27] <sYndax> dli: it gives me the manuall...
[11:27] <simosx> zanga: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:27] <InnerF|RE> where can i get elm or pine from?
[11:27] <souhail> hello evry bad
[11:28] <simosx> hi souhail
[11:28] <mivecz> hello anyone to help
[11:28] <dli> mivecz, don't ask to ask :(
[11:28] <sYndax> dli: i dun understand why its so complex... it should be so simple... the grub should find the xp in the install and thats it...
[11:28] <mivecz> i  want  to make a  linux floppy to start  ubuntu
[11:28] <qatsi> mivecz: me hahaha, i cant start x, but that issue will wait...
[11:29] <mivecz> qatsi
[11:29] <mivecz> ?
[11:29] <dli> sYndax, I don't care whether it's complex or not in your opinion
[11:30] <sYndax> dli: i cant seem to mount it... it wont work...
[11:30] <Hexidigital> syndax, if you have xp installed on a 'dynamic' ntfs volume, you will NOT be able to boot to that through Grub... that is how my system is set up... i have to manually change the hard disk boot order
[11:30] <Hexidigital> ntfs has two types of partitions... basic partitions and dynamic volumes
[11:30] <dli> sYndax, "fdisk -l /dev/hdb", find linux partitions, not swap, mount them one by one
[11:31] <sYndax> hexidigital: if i try to manuall boot the ubuntu hdd from bios i get an "error loading operating system" msg...
[11:31] <Afief> is there a way to install ununtu/kubuntu online? without downloading the CD?
[11:32] <zanga> were can i get a good music mplayer(mp`3 player) like winamp
[11:32] <zanga> ??
[11:32] <Hexidigital> are both os's installed on the same physical disk?
[11:32] <joseph> anyone running dapper beta?
[11:32] <Afief> zanga: AmaroK
[11:32] <Hexidigital> or are they two seperate hdds?
[11:32] <sYndax> yes...
[11:32] <zanga> and were do i find Amarok
[11:32] <zanga> ??
[11:32] <joseph> doesn't amarok come in KDE
[11:32] <mivecz> i  want  to make a  linux floppy to start  ubuntu
[11:32] <jind> zanga: rhytmbox, xmms, amarok, juk .. the list goes on
[11:32] <simosx> zanga: how was the attempt to get beep media player?
[11:32] <sYndax> hexidigital: xp on 160gb sata2 / ubutu n 80gb ide...
[11:32] <gnomefreak> joseph: its alpha and yes we are in #ubuntu+!
[11:32] <zanga> :))
[11:32] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1
[11:33] <sYndax> hexidigital: wuts a dynamic ntfs partition?
[11:33] <zanga> not to good
[11:33] <zanga> i couldent find it
[11:33] <joseph> gnomefreak:  alpha?
[11:33] <Afief> is there a way to install ununtu/kubuntu online? without downloading the CD?
[11:33] <zanga> that`s why i am askyng for a link
[11:33] <fiendskull9> zanga, in a terminal type - sudo apt-get install amarok
[11:33] <joseph> gnomefreak:  I've worked at so many different software development companies and they all have different definitions of the meaning of "alpha", "beta", etc..
[11:33] <dli> Afief, I remember debian has the old way from hard disk (in windows)
[11:33] <mivecz> gnomefreak:)
[11:33] <Hexidigital> syndax, i wonder if the sata is the problem?  if you right click ''my computer'' and click manage, then disk management, you can change your disk setup to dynamic... allows striped drives (raid arrays) etc
[11:33] <fiendskull9> joseph, its in beta stage right now
[11:33] <gnomefreak> joseph: alpha = pre beta beta will be released around may 23rd
[11:34] <fiendskull9> joseph, alpha isnt public, beta is
[11:34] <simosx> zanga: when you reply to someone, start with their IRC nick, so the reply stands out. Otherwise, it does not get noticed.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> fiendskull9: read the release schedule
[11:34] <Afief> dli: i remember a guy here doing it a while ago, but i didn't ask how, shame on me
[11:34] <joseph> fiendskull9:  gnomefreak says that dapper is alpha, not beta.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> beta is iether 4/23 or 5/23
[11:34] <mivecz> !gr
[11:34] <ubotu> Elate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi
[11:34] <Hexidigital> if it is set to dynamic, you will be unable to boot to xp through grub... as i said, that is how i am set up, and i have to change boot order in my BIOS to boot between XP and Ubuntu
[11:34] <fiendskull9> gnomefreak, it is beta rigtht now/
[11:34] <fiendskull9> !dapper stage
[11:34] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[11:34] <sYndax> hexidigital: while i ran the ubuntu install it saw all the discs... the sata was presented as SCSI 0,0 or something... but here on the livecd it wont see it,,,
[11:34] <fiendskull9> !dapper
[11:34] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[11:35] <dli> Afief, however, if you want to tweak installation, I suggest you to try gentoo
[11:35] <wozza> lo all
[11:35] <sYndax> hexidigital: anyhow its not logic ubuntu wont run from a dff hdd, just cuz there is a sata hdd on the system...
[11:35] <zanga> simosx can u please give me a link were i can downlaod or install amarok or some mp`3 player ??
[11:35] <DarthShrine> Would anyone know why after I installed the libgtk2.0-dev package, tried to compile an app I made, I get "gcc:  -lgtk-x11-2.0: No such file or directory"? Are there any other packages I need?
[11:35] <zanga> ahh why don`t they just make winamp for linux
[11:35] <zanga> ??
[11:35] <zanga> :((
[11:35] <albinoblacksh33p> any1 kno how 2 install java?
[11:35] <fiendskull9> zanga, type into a terminal, sudo apt-get install amarok
[11:35] <Hexidigital> syndax, sorry i couldnt help more :(
[11:35] <YukiCuss> !tell albinoblacksh33p about java
[11:35] <fiendskull9> zanga, it worked for me
[11:35] <Afief> dli: Gento? that's another distribution no?
[11:35] <zanga> i daid that
[11:35] <YukiCuss> albinoblacksh33p, see message from ubotu.
[11:36] <wozza> same here
[11:36] <wozza> need tutorial for java
[11:36] <zanga> e: coulden`t find amarok
[11:36] <simosx> zanga: You can use the Synaptic Package Manager. Enable the "Universe" repository and search for "beep-media-player". Also see http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/sound/beep-media-player
[11:36] <michal`> i would sugest you to never touch gentoo
[11:36] <wozza> and opera if possible
[11:36] <gnomefreak> fiendskull9: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule?highlight=%28dapper%29  and comment on it on #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <Janos> hey there, any tips on vlan configuration on interfaces file, like how to do it ?
[11:36] <vclimber49er> is there someone here who is able to help enable an HP 820cse printer in Ubuntu 5.10, please? i have the pnm2ppa installed, or so it says, but i am having no luck.
[11:36] <fiendskull9> !multiverse
[11:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:36] <fiendskull9> ok
[11:36] <fiendskull9> zanga, youll have to enable multiverse repositories
[11:36] <Hexidigital> !chuck
[11:36] <ubotu> Hexidigital: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:36] <fiendskull9> !tell zanga about multiverse
[11:36] <sYndax> hexidigital: thanks ok...
[11:37] <DarthShrine> Nobody?
[11:37] <sYndax> dli: the mount cmd wont work... wut 2 do.
[11:37] <Hexidigital> gotta go... later Ubuntu-ers
[11:37] <mivecz> gnome
[11:37] <mivecz> gnomefreak i want your Helop
[11:37] <ompaul> DarthShrine, try apt-get install build-essentials
[11:37] <ompaul> DarthShrine, try apt-get install build-essential <-- no s
[11:37] <wozza> !tell wozza about java
[11:38] <pier> !tell pier about gconf
[11:38] <pier> !tell pier about gconf2
[11:38] <DarthShrine> ompaul, I have it. The error is about a gtk lib...I'm not that dumb
[11:38] <gnomefreak> mivecz: is it about dapper?
[11:38] <YukiCuss> pier, msg the bot.
[11:38] <DarthShrine> :)
[11:38] <pier> this bot is dumb :D
[11:38] <pier> btw sorry ^^
[11:38] <fiendskull9> pier
[11:38] <YukiCuss> pier, it's often helpful.
[11:38] <dli> sYndax, never say, "wont work"
[11:38] <fiendskull9> just type !whatyouwant
[11:38] <YukiCuss> fiendskull9, bad idea; it floods the channel.
[11:39] <fiendskull9> ah
[11:39] <gnomefreak> !msg the bot
[11:39] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:39] <fiendskull9> YukiCuss, never thought of that :-/
[11:39] <pier> aye
[11:39] <mivecz> grub  but wait  i  find  someone:P
[11:39] <fiendskull9> zanga, did you get my messages?
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> Could someone tell me commands for a) finding out the number of files in a directory non-recursively, b) recursively, c) finding out the number of lines in a text file ?
[11:39] <sYndax> dli: mount /dev/hdb wont work... it says cannot locate.
[11:39] <YukiCuss> tonyyarusso, (a) ls -l | wc -l (b) ls -lR | wc -l (c) wc -l FILENAME
[11:40] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: surely someone could, but why not figure it out yourself?
[11:40] <YukiCuss> Blissex, oops!
[11:40] <dli> sYndax, "mkdir /mnt/boot", "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/boot"
[11:40] <zanga> friendskull9 i did get u`r messege
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> YukiCuss: Thank you.
[11:40] <mivecz> gnomefreak dapper is nice:)_
[11:40] <dli> sYndax, I remember giving you the command again and again.
[11:40] <Blissex> YukiCuss: and they are not totally right....
[11:40] <pier> ok I'll retry my question, I hope to avoid chan flooding with replies ;)
[11:40] <pier> folks, maybe, a veryveryveryFAQ... is there a way to remove those buggish messages from the log ? Feb 25 14:47:32 localhost gconfd (dave-5404): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0
[11:40] <YukiCuss> Blissex, wasn't so sure about the ls -lR one ><
[11:40] <gnomefreak> mivecz: if you have an issue with dapper please join #ubuntu+1
[11:40] <vclimber49er> !drivers
[11:40] <ubotu> I guess drivers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[11:41] <vclimber49er> !printers
[11:41] <ubotu> [printers]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[11:41] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: consider something like 'find' and 'wc' on its output.
[11:41] <ompaul> DarthShrine, well lets see, the output of this might be interesting for you:: apt-cache search gtk | grep x | grep lib  :: then again maybe not
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> Blissex: That would allow some additional custimization as well; thanks.
[11:43] <New2Ubun2> hello
[11:43] <New2Ubun2> I need help
[11:43] <ompaul> !helpme
[11:43] <sYndax> dli: i give up, the solution is not good for me... i need a multiboot proc on the xp partition that will boot either xp or ubuntu...
[11:43] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:43] <New2Ubun2> I am trying to get the mozilla suite
[11:43] <sYndax> dli: and it wont work if linux cannot see the sata drive...
[11:43] <New2Ubun2> it says it needs ubuntu2 and I have ubuntu1
[11:43] <ompaul> !enter
[11:43] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:43] <[Leo] > hi all :)
[11:43] <New2Ubun2> can anyone give me an ideal ubuntu breezy source list?
[11:44] <_jason> !sources
[11:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:44] <dli> sYndax, whatever, but ubuntu can read and boot sata
[11:44] <[Leo] > New2Ubun2: search for sources.list generator
[11:44] <ArIeZ> can anyone recommend any good file sharing progz fo ubunt
[11:44] <sYndax> dli: the install wizard, said XP detected. do u want grub? i said yes... and it wont work...
[11:44] <New2Ubun2> I did enable universe and Multiverse
[11:44] <sYndax> dli: it didnt write grub on the scsi 0,0 drv (sata)...
[11:44] <New2Ubun2> I even used Marrillet to get the w32codecs
[11:45] <New2Ubun2> then I got rid of it
[11:45] <albinoblacksh33p> how do u make downloaded filed exectubal
[11:45] <DarthShrine> ompaul, Doesn't look like there's a gtk-x11-2.0
[11:45] <blekos> i hope they will fix synce for wm5 soon so i can return 2 linux :)
[11:45] <_jason> albinoblacksh33p: chmod +x file
[11:45] <albinoblacksh33p> thx
[11:45] <blekos> i'm running fro windows now... grrrr
[11:45] <blekos> I want multiple desktops
[11:46] <korhalf> blekos, run ubuntu with vmware player
[11:46] <korhalf> thats what i do
[11:46] <waraike> blekos, use hydravision if you have an ati card ;)
[11:46] <cello_rasp> how do i format a usb device as vfat?
[11:47] <korhalf> alt tab between some CS and some linux
[11:47] <blekos> dont have ati card...
[11:47] <Mccy_McFlinn> blekos: or download dexpot for windows
[11:47] <Mccy_McFlinn> does exactly what you want
[11:47] <ArIeZ> anyone know any good file sharing progz for ubuntu
[11:47] <Mccy_McFlinn> and it's free
[11:47] <dli> cello_rasp, get usb-storage support, when it shows up as an sda (or alike), mkfs.vfat it, or make a partition table first
[11:48] <IdleOne> !tell ArIeZ about p2p
[11:48] <dli> ArIeZ, for maximum security, try freenet
[11:48] <ompaul> DarthShrine, me is inclined to suggest you do this >>locate gtk-x11-2<<
[11:49] <h0nus> how can i check the configuration of my kernel?
[11:49] <ArIeZ> thanks
[11:49] <blekos> and how to use vmware?
[11:49] <sYndax> dli: thanks for the help, gnite.
[11:49] <dli> h0nus, if you have /proc/config.gz
[11:49] <blekos> can i use it through linux? i know for Wine but...
[11:49] <h0nus> dli, i'll try that
[11:49] <vclimber49er> !820c
[11:49] <ubotu> vclimber49er: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:49] <Mccy_McFlinn> blekos: vmware is very complicated just to get multiple desktops, just download dexpots
[11:50] <lopzided> what do i use to extract a zip file?
[11:50] <pier> unzip
[11:50] <pier> =)
[11:50] <simosx> blekos: google on "VMWare Player" and install it (works from Linux and Win). Then, at the VMWare Website, you can download an installed virtual machine that is ready to run.
[11:50] <IdleOne> lopzided, right click > extract here
[11:50] <blekos> ok i'll do that, but the whole idea is 2 switch completely to ubuntu i've got dapper drake installed and using it, but when it comes to sync with my pda...
[11:51] <h0nus> dli, where can i get config.gz?
[11:51] <blekos> i need t2 switch back 2 windows...
[11:51] <dli> h0nus, if you enabled the option, it's /proc/config.gz
[11:51] <Arafangion> Is it possible to disable the touchpad while you have an external mouse plugged in?
[11:51] <Arafangion> My touchpad is *very* sensitive.
[11:52] <Arafangion> (Windows has the same problem)
[11:52] <vclimber49er> !pnm2ppa
[11:52] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vclimber49er
[11:52] <IdleOne> vclimber49er, use /msg ubotu searchterm
[11:52] <sYndax> dli: thanks for the help, gnite.
[11:52] <Nalead> hello
[11:52] <vclimber49er> IdleOne thank you.
[11:52] <Cyorxamp> I have gnokii installed (a driver for nokia phones) and I have gnocky installed (a data suite front end for gnokii) and I have my phone plugged into usb.... lsusb can see it and gnocky is asking for a /dev/ location - I have tried sda but it doesnt exist - can anyone help?
[11:52] <Cyorxamp> I have gnokii installed (a driver for nokia phones) and I have gnocky installed (a data suite front end for gnokii) and I have my phone plugged into usb.... lsusb can see it and gnocky is asking for a /dev/ location - I have tried sda but it doesnt exist - can anyone help?
[11:52] <h0nus> i did not compile my kernel so i'm not sure if it's enabled, but entering /proc/config.gz returns command not found
[11:53] <h0nus> i don't see it in ls
[11:53] <dli> h0nus, then, it's in /boot, "ls -l /boot " , config-*
[11:53] <IdleOne> h0nus, cd /proc/config.gz
[11:54] <IdleOne> h0nus, cd /proc/
[11:54] <vclimber49er> is there someone here who is able to help enable an HP 820cse printer in Ubuntu 5.10, please? i have the pnm2ppa installed, or so it says, but i am having no luck.
[11:54] <ompaul> !printer
[11:54] <chelu> Can I do anything to run my Creative X-Fi under linux?
[11:54] <ubotu> printer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[11:54] <ifz> hello, can anybody mail me, REALLY WORK'S sources.list on breezy
[11:54] <dli> vclimber49er, hpoj, hplip don't help?
[11:54] <ompaul> vclimber49er, ^^
[11:54] <wozza> i have downloaded opera web browser which is a .deb, can someone help me install it please?
[11:54] <Cyorxamp> DOES ANYONE EVEN SEE WHAT I TYPE IN THIS GOD DAMN ROOM?
[11:54] <vclimber49er> dli are those drivers?
[11:54] <IdleOne> Cyorxamp, yeah we see it
[11:54] <Cyorxamp> I HAVE BEEN ASKING THIS SIMPLE QUESTION FOR HOURS
[11:55] <corvax> whats the off topic channel again?
[11:55] <deternal> ifz: you can get mine, which works for me
[11:55] <Cyorxamp> :(
[11:55] <ompaul> and you are now shouting
[11:55] <IdleOne> Cyorxamp, if it was so simple you would of gotten an answer
[11:55] <dli> vclimber49er, give them a try, "apt-get install hpoj hplip"
[11:55] <ifz> deternal, okey! can u mail it?
[11:55] <ompaul> !attitude
[11:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[11:55] <sfar-ubu> ops
[11:55] <Cyorxamp> I have gnokii installed (a driver for nokia phones) and I have gnocky installed (a data suite front end for gnokii) and I have my phone plugged into usb.... lsusb can see it and gnocky is asking for a /dev/ location - I have tried sda but it doesnt exist - can anyone help?
[11:55] <deternal> ifz, sure - give me your mail
[11:55] <dli> vclimber49er, they are the generic hp printer drivers
[11:55] <ifz> deternal, or share it?
[11:55] <ompaul> Cyorxamp, stop repeating yourself
[11:56] <corvax> /dev/sda1 ?
[11:56] <Cyorxamp> no doesnt exist either
[11:56] <vclimber49er> dli thank you. i am nearing my wit's end with this old beast.
[11:56] <corvax> lol
[11:56] <h0nus> dli, when i enter "ls -l /boot" i see two entries for "config"
[11:56] <Cyorxamp> linux is just plain retarded I swear
[11:56] <IdleOne> Cyorxamp, lsusb give you anything?
[11:56] <Cyorxamp> IdleOne, yeah
[11:56] <Cyorxamp> that can see it!
[11:56] <simosx> how come when I /IGNORE someone, I still see message from there?
[11:56] <ifz> deternal, can u send me from irc?
[11:57] <corvax>  /media
[11:57] <vclimber49er> dli i add that to ./etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:57] <Joetheodd> !hoary
[11:57] <ubotu> methinks hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[11:57] <zanga> who can help me with beep music player
[11:57] <zanga> ??
[11:57] <corvax>  /media/devicename?
[11:57] <Joetheodd> !breezy
[11:57] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:57] <dli> vclimber49er, no :( hpoj hplip should be in ubuntu
[11:57] <deternal> ifz, check dialog window
[11:58] <dli> vclimber49er, just install them :(
[11:58] <simosx> i got it, /ignore takes hostnames.. :)
[11:58] <dunand> hello...
[11:58] <IdleOne> hello
[11:58] <sfar-ubu> simosx: "/help ignore"
[11:58] <vclimber49er> dli thank you.
[11:58] <ifz> deternal, one more time plz
[11:58] <dunand> my first connexion since...  a long long time....
[11:58] <IdleOne> dunand, welcome back to the net :)
[11:59] <dunand> I used irc 6 years ago...
[11:59] <corvax> sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[11:59] <dunand> with windows
[11:59] <dunand> arf... nobody's perfect
[11:59] <dunand> i just finish to install ubuntu
[11:59] <corvax> or get it using synaptic
[11:59] <ompaul> dunand, this is not a chat channel if you want to chat we have a channel for that #ubuntu-offtopic this is a ubuntu help channel
[12:00] <IdleOne> dunand, thats great but offtopic chat should be held in #ubuntu-offtopic :) allthough you are more then welcome to hangout here and ask for help concerning ubuntu