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| verwilst | this is the first time EVER that a standard install is so amazingly professional-looking | 01:57 |
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| verwilst | great job Riddell and co | 01:57 |
| verwilst | for years, the first thing i have to do with kde is resize/change the fonts, change the colorscheme, the widgets, ... | 01:58 |
| verwilst | and it still looks clumsy | 01:58 |
| verwilst | some fonts are too small, some too large | 01:58 |
| verwilst | but now... | 01:58 |
| verwilst | it's like gnome and windows :d | 01:58 |
| raphink | tonio has done a great work on this | 01:58 |
| verwilst | fonts are perfect | 01:58 |
| raphink | on the default look | 01:59 |
| verwilst | it's really great :) | 01:59 |
| raphink | fonts, tabs, etc | 01:59 |
| raphink | and fwwii is still working on the default artwork | 01:59 |
| verwilst | first time ever that i didn't go straight to kcontrol :d | 01:59 |
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| verwilst | i don't like the kdm splash though :) | 01:59 |
| verwilst | but hey | 01:59 |
| verwilst | :p | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | verwilst: ugh, no | 02:00 |
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| verwilst | Hobbsee: no? what no? | 02:00 |
| verwilst | :p | 02:00 |
| raphink | verwilst: kwwii is doing the artwork from scratch again | 02:00 |
| raphink | and began about 2 weeks ago | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | to the kdm splash | 02:00 |
| verwilst | oh :d | 02:00 |
| verwilst | sweet :d | 02:00 |
| verwilst | great to hear | 02:00 |
| verwilst | hmmm | 02:01 |
| verwilst | how i missed my kde :$ | 02:01 |
| verwilst | damned gnome | 02:01 |
| raphink | :) | 02:02 |
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| Hobbsee | i hope there are old versions of wpa supplicant.. | 02:21 |
| crimsun | what's the issue? | 02:24 |
| crimsun | unfortunately scott and reinhard didn't really preserve any upgrade paths | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | the new one wont connect with knetworkmanager | 02:24 |
| crimsun | what does knetworkmanager do? | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | and i upgraded it from tonio_'s repo today | 02:24 |
| crimsun | rather, how does it hook into wpasupplicant? | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | kde equivalent of networkmanager | 02:24 |
| crimsun | does it use wpa_cli? | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | you dont ahve to modify the wpa supplicant files with it | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | and it's set to being default 0 | 02:26 |
| crimsun | right, my kludgy script is now (thankfully) obsoleted | 02:26 |
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| Hobbsee | right! | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | there was a version uploaded to universe, which replaced tonio_'s version | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | installed tonio's version, everything works again | 02:34 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: so http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/ept_1.91.tar.gz -- i haven't tested it much, so may be a good idea to test before upload (or ask someone) | 03:17 |
| mornfall | Riddell: i'll go sleep now... if unsure, wait with upload till i appear | 03:17 |
| mornfall | good night all | 03:18 |
| hanover | simon still around?> | 03:19 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: morning | 09:11 |
| mornfall | anyone willing to test new adept beta? | 09:12 |
| mornfall | come on, not everyone at once ;-) | 09:13 |
| OculusAquilae | good morning | 09:13 |
| OculusAquilae | why not :) | 09:13 |
| mornfall | OculusAquilae: you can use debuild right? :) | 09:13 |
| mornfall | (good morning too) | 09:13 |
| OculusAquilae | right | 09:13 |
| mornfall | here: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/libapt-front_0.3.7.1.tar.gz and http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/ept_1.91.tar.gz | 09:14 |
| mornfall | it may take a bit to compile :-) | 09:14 |
| mornfall | thanks :-) | 09:14 |
| mornfall | i will be specifically happy if you can reproduce the "adept does not start through kdesu" thing... have you ever experienced it? | 09:16 |
| OculusAquilae | no sorry | 09:17 |
| mornfall | interesting :) | 09:17 |
| mornfall | at least it is not too widespread in that case (it didn't happen to me either :) | 09:17 |
| OculusAquilae | :) | 09:17 |
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| freeflying | anyone wanna test qt-3.3.6 | 09:24 |
| freeflying | http://ftp.ubuntu.org.cn/freeflying/ | 09:25 |
| mornfall | hola freeflying | 09:25 |
| freeflying | mornfall: hi | 09:26 |
| mornfall | i haven't reproduced the scim thing :| | 09:26 |
| freeflying | mornfall: set locales to en_US , start SCIM | 09:28 |
| freeflying | mornfall: it's hang up at filtering | 09:29 |
| mornfall | for now skim refuses to start | 09:29 |
| mornfall | but let's try | 09:30 |
| freeflying | mornfall: you can try with scim | 09:30 |
| mornfall | skim is now running (but debian version, kubuntu one does not start over remote X) | 09:31 |
| mornfall | hmm, still works | 09:32 |
| mornfall | let me try installing some input method | 09:32 |
| mornfall | or maybe scim | 09:32 |
| freeflying | you are using sid ? | 09:32 |
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| mornfall | yes | 09:32 |
| freeflying | seems I'd test on a sid box , hmh | 09:33 |
| mornfall | improvement -- skim does not segfault right away | 09:33 |
| mornfall | but it still filters just fine | 09:34 |
| freeflying | mornfall: has patches for qt | 09:34 |
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| OculusAquilae | mornfall: compiles well, but is it known that adept_installer scales so strange | 09:37 |
| mornfall | OculusAquilae: hmm, does it? | 09:37 |
| OculusAquilae | it scales the buttons but not the rest | 09:38 |
| OculusAquilae | mornfall: http://oculusaquilae.de/kubuntu/adept_installer.png | 09:40 |
| mornfall | ooooh | 09:40 |
| mornfall | OculusAquilae: no that's not known :) | 09:41 |
| OculusAquilae | same for adept_updater | 09:41 |
| mornfall | OculusAquilae: was about to say that :) | 09:41 |
| mornfall | lame, scim so does not work for me | 09:42 |
| === mornfall tries the scaling | ||
| OculusAquilae | mornfall: should adept_batch compile? | 09:44 |
| mornfall | OculusAquilae: oh damn, yes it should -- i knew i would leave lots of stupid bugs in -- thanks :) | 09:45 |
| OculusAquilae | :) | 09:45 |
| mornfall | okey, both issues should be fixed | 09:49 |
| OculusAquilae | nice | 09:49 |
| mornfall | updated the source package | 09:53 |
| === mornfall looks for another victim | ||
| === seaLne comppletly trashes his home machine attempting b->d dist-upgrade :( | ||
| seaLne | hung during dist-upgrade and wouldn't boot after that | 10:06 |
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| mornfall | raphink! | 10:31 |
| raphink | hi mornfall | 10:32 |
| raphink | :) | 10:32 |
| raphink | how are you? | 10:33 |
| mornfall | fairly fine | 10:34 |
| mornfall | a bit underslept | 10:34 |
| mornfall | was hunting bugs till 3:30am | 10:34 |
| raphink | hehe | 10:34 |
| raphink | just woke up too | 10:34 |
| mornfall | hey i'm up for an hour now ;-) | 10:34 |
| raphink | hehe | 10:34 |
| seaLne | w00t fixed dist-upgrade distruction and now i have dual head working (never worked with these cards in breezy) | 10:48 |
| === seaLne is a very happy bunny | ||
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| Tonio_ | hello girls ;) | 10:58 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 11:14 |
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| raphink | Tonio_: toi-mme :p | 11:30 |
| raphink | lol | 11:30 |
| raphink | how are you doing Tonio_? | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: fine ;) | 11:32 |
| raphink | good :) | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | packaging new knetworkmanager and submitting to revu in the first place | 11:32 |
| raphink | great :) | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | then we'll have to discuss what to do with wlassistant | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | and knetworkmanager ;) | 11:32 |
| raphink | ok | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | I think chances are better for wlassistant to replace kwifimanager | 11:32 |
| raphink | I'm implementing support for yet another XML standard in Quanta ;) | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | and knetworkmanager in main, as nm-applet, but not installed by default | 11:33 |
| raphink | ok | 11:33 |
| raphink | yes | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | let's go ;) | 11:33 |
| raphink | just as for kpowersave I guess | 11:33 |
| raphink | raah les bourins qui ont fait le support docbook dans quanta | 11:34 |
| raphink | lol | 11:34 |
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| Tonio_ | raphink: si j'ai des sources qui sont aps un tarball | 11:42 |
| raphink | cd? | 11:43 |
| raphink | du svn par exemple? | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | tu me conseilles de faire un make -f Makefile.cvs avant de faire le tarball | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | ou dans le build process ? | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | voila | 11:43 |
| raphink | hmmm | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | c mme pas du svn | 11:43 |
| raphink | avant | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | je pense aussi ;) | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | bon bah c bon :) | 11:43 |
| raphink | tu fais un truc propre | 11:43 |
| raphink | tu te fais un orig avec | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | vivi, bah c'est le cas :) | 11:43 |
| raphink | et ensuite tu package | 11:43 |
| raphink | et tu mets dans le changelog que tu as clean la source | 11:43 |
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| Tonio_ | le orig la il est extrait depuis les sources du packet rpm de chez suse | 11:43 |
| raphink | argh :s | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | c degueu, donc autant le refaire propre | 11:44 |
| raphink | clair | 11:44 |
| raphink | ok | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | y a pas de svn pour knetworkmanager pour le moment | 11:44 |
| raphink | ok | 11:44 |
| raphink | c'est mieux que rien | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | vi | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | bon bah ca a l'air de builder ;) | 11:45 |
| raphink | oki :) | 11:46 |
| Lathiat | in konqueror | 11:51 |
| Lathiat | 'focus searchbar' -> ctrl+s | 11:51 |
| Lathiat | but that doesnt work for me | 11:51 |
| Lathiat | can anynone confirm? | 11:51 |
| Lathiat | interestingly if i set it myself | 11:51 |
| Lathiat | and change it bac to default | 11:51 |
| Lathiat | it works | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2167 | 11:54 |
| Tonio_ | reviewers needed | 11:54 |
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| Hobbsee | hey Tonio_: | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | and Lure, i think | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: helloooooooooo | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | you run the kubuntu.no-ip.org repo? | 12:22 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yes, it is my personnal repo | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: a FYI - the universe wpasupplicant is overwriting your version, and the universe version does not work with knetworkmanager at all | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | for tests only | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I know | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | yes, of course | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | that's a problem | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | oh ok, i dindt know if you did :) | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | bump your version? | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | does the universe one work with networkmanager also ? | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | I assume no | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | dont know, i dont run gnome | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | that's why wpasupplicant as to go in main | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | want me to ask? | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: plz yes ;) | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | but I think wpasupplicant in main is actually discussed | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | because it is needed for networkmanager to work | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | not to compile of course | 12:27 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | knetworkmanager itself doesn't use wpasupplicant | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | networkmanager does | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | knetworkmanager is just a frontend | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | ah...yes...and networkmanager is different from network-manager-gnome | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | yes | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | networkmanager-gnome is just a frontend also | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | gotcha. brain is kinda dead from work | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | network-manager is the base | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | yep, thougth so | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | and did you make some nice kubuntu-desktop packages that allowed you to run either kpowersave or klaptop as well? | 12:29 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: raphink did, and the packages are on my repo | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | http://kubuntu.no-ip.org | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | :) i like having them work | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | you have the list here | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | yes, i have it :P | 12:32 |
| Tm_T | moin | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | hi Tm_T | 12:33 |
| mornfall | raphink: i haven't found no more testers | 12:33 |
| mornfall | only a big python flame | 12:33 |
| mornfall | which was lame | 12:34 |
| mornfall | i should stay away from python flames | 12:34 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee! | 12:34 |
| === mornfall spots Hobbsee | ||
| Hobbsee | hey mornfall | 12:34 |
| === Hobbsee is spotted | ||
| mornfall | Hobbsee: hello | 12:34 |
| Hobbsee | is Hobbsee squared as well? | 12:34 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: i am sure you want to test adept 1.91 | 12:34 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 12:34 |
| Hobbsee | what sort of testing? | 12:35 |
| mornfall | compile and run | 12:35 |
| mornfall | if you can spot some obvious RC bugs | 12:35 |
| mornfall | :-) | 12:35 |
| === Hobbsee wonders what to install | ||
| === mornfall makes puppy eyes | ||
| mornfall | http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/libapt-front_0.3.7.1.tar.gz and http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/ept_1.91.tar.gz | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | both? | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | compile both, i take it? | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ping ? | 12:36 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: yes, in the order pasted (first is build-dep of latter) | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | yep, gotcha | 12:36 |
| mornfall | just run debuild on it | 12:36 |
| mornfall | if it breaks, it's probably my fault | 12:37 |
| freeflying | mornfall: 1.91 can not works too | 12:37 |
| === Hobbsee prepares to go after mornfall with a big stick | ||
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: no response on the wpasupplicant and networkmanager yet | 12:39 |
| mornfall | freeflying: damn | 12:39 |
| mornfall | freeflying: but since you already compiled it, can you try without scim? | 12:40 |
| mornfall | freeflying: (and paste me the stdout/stderr with scim enabled?) | 12:40 |
| freeflying | mornfall: will try it later | 12:40 |
| mornfall | freeflying: terminal output with scim? pretty please :) | 12:41 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: out of curiousity, why isnt the directory inside the .tar.gz named correctly? | 12:42 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: probably because i make the tarball in a very hacky way :) | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:43 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: riddell always fixes it for me ;-) | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | you didnt use the *gasp* evil program, did you? | 12:43 |
| mornfall | i don't use program, i just run debuild in a hand-crafted checkout directory O:-) | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | you cant just rename the directory? | 12:44 |
| mornfall | it's too complicated | 12:44 |
| mornfall | i can't use the mv program | 12:44 |
| mornfall | never recall the spelling | 12:44 |
| mornfall | you know all that :-) | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | oh ok | 12:44 |
| === Hobbsee didnt know about any mv program, or has forgotten it | ||
| mornfall | i will write a script one day | 12:44 |
| mornfall | that will make proper tarballs | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:45 |
| mornfall | or something :) | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: first one compiles | 12:49 |
| mornfall | yay | 12:50 |
| === Hobbsee tries overriding the build depends for adept | ||
| mornfall | Hobbsee: why? | 12:50 |
| Hobbsee | so i dont have to install that stuff now, and can do it thru adept? | 12:50 |
| mornfall | *blink*? | 12:51 |
| mornfall | what build depends? :) | 12:51 |
| Hobbsee | deps on kdelibs4-dev | 12:51 |
| mornfall | it won't build without kdelibs4-dev | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | errors out without that package though - compiling, and installing again | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | other way around | 12:52 |
| mornfall | obviously, you can't compile kde programs without kdelibs headers :) | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | you can try to override it | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | but it errored out over the xincludes | 12:54 |
| mornfall | :-) | 12:54 |
| mornfall | raphink: pingy pingy? :) | 12:55 |
| mornfall | Riddell: or you | 12:55 |
| raphink | pingu pingu | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | i guess i couldnt get it to build in a pbuilder...pity | 12:55 |
| mornfall | raphink: how willing are you to fix the packages before uploading? :) | 12:55 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: oh? | 12:55 |
| raphink | hmmm | 12:55 |
| raphink | how do you mean? | 12:55 |
| raphink | the adept one you mean? | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: because adept depends on the other, which pbuilder will not regard as installed | 12:55 |
| mornfall | raphink: well, the things you do for packages that come from debian... appending ubuntu1 to version and such | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | and is not in repos | 12:55 |
| raphink | my will depends more or less of the number of hours I stay awake in the day | 12:56 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: ah, right, usual pbuilder problem | 12:56 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 12:56 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: there's a section on it in debian wiki | 12:56 |
| raphink | mornfall: the general rule when syncing/merging packages from Debian are to keep the diff as small as possible | 12:56 |
| Hobbsee | oh ok...i'll have to have a look | 12:56 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: http://wiki.debian.org/PbuilderTricks | 12:57 |
| raphink | mornfall: so if it can be kept with no -0ubuntu1 it's better | 12:57 |
| mornfall | raphink: i don't know what Riddell does to the packages in fact | 12:58 |
| mornfall | raphink: but it's a native package | 12:58 |
| mornfall | raphink: so that's maybe why (you would have exactly same version as debian with different content) | 12:58 |
| raphink | well if it builds in Dapper and we have no particular patch to apply to it, we just sync it | 12:58 |
| raphink | is the package in Debian already? | 12:59 |
| mornfall | not yet :) | 12:59 |
| raphink | ok | 12:59 |
| mornfall | and it will go to dapper first this time | 12:59 |
| raphink | ah ok | 12:59 |
| raphink | so it's not a sync really | 12:59 |
| raphink | it's more convenient when it enters debian first | 12:59 |
| raphink | so we can measure the diff | 12:59 |
| raphink | and be sure to stay as close to debian as possible | 12:59 |
| raphink | it's less of a problem with adept since it's a package in main | 12:59 |
| Hobbsee | cool! | 12:59 |
| mornfall | raphink: well, you get from me the thing that will be uploaded to debian | 12:59 |
| raphink | so we can deal with the diff more | 01:00 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: what, | 01:00 |
| raphink | ? | 01:00 |
| mornfall | raphink: most of the time | 01:00 |
| raphink | ok | 01:00 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: refering to the link from mornfall | 01:00 |
| raphink | if you don't miind I'll have a look at it later mornfall | 01:00 |
| raphink | cause I have to pack and go | 01:00 |
| raphink | and I'm not going to move if I stick to the comp like that | 01:00 |
| mornfall | raphink: ok | 01:01 |
| raphink | can you upload to revu and send me the link by email? | 01:01 |
| mornfall | raphink: i may catch riddell in which case it'll be less work for you :) | 01:01 |
| raphink | I'll look at it tonight or tomorrow if you don't mine | 01:01 |
| raphink | s/mine/mind/ | 01:01 |
| mornfall | bah revu :| | 01:02 |
| raphink | mornfall: or send me the packages if you prefer :) | 01:02 |
| raphink | or send me a link to the packages on the net ;) | 01:02 |
| mornfall | i'd have to go through the whole upload thing that way... i thought that's what sponsors are for :) | 01:02 |
| raphink | huh? | 01:02 |
| raphink | no | 01:02 |
| mornfall | raphink: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/libapt-front_0.3.7.1.tar.gz and http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/ept_1.91.tar.gz | 01:02 |
| raphink | on REVU I would just add your key to the keyring | 01:02 |
| raphink | then you can upload what you want | 01:02 |
| mornfall | i am joking | 01:03 |
| raphink | mornfall: can you please send them by mail? it's more convenient :) | 01:03 |
| mornfall | i mean, i would have to do the whole upload dance | 01:03 |
| raphink | otherwise I'm sure to lose them ;) | 01:03 |
| mornfall | raphink: links or tarballs? | 01:03 |
| raphink | links | 01:03 |
| raphink | to raphink@u.c | 01:03 |
| raphink | and I promise I'll look at them this weekend | 01:04 |
| mornfall | raphink: sent | 01:04 |
| raphink | ty | 01:04 |
| mornfall | raphink: i'll try to recall to mail you in case Riddell appears | 01:04 |
| mornfall | and does the upload | 01:04 |
| raphink | ok | 01:04 |
| raphink | I'll see it in dapper changes if that happens | 01:05 |
| raphink | but right now I better hurry up | 01:05 |
| mornfall | laters :) | 01:05 |
| raphink | I've got about 4 hours to drive | 01:05 |
| raphink | ++ | 01:05 |
| mornfall | ouch | 01:05 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: i'll wait for your results with Riddell summoning =) | 01:05 |
| mornfall | well i should be writing homeworks :| | 01:06 |
| mornfall | lame | 01:06 |
| Hobbsee | hee | 01:09 |
| mornfall | yes? | 01:09 |
| Hobbsee | both compile... | 01:09 |
| mornfall | yay | 01:09 |
| Hobbsee | could not find something...octet stream | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: error message, after you put in kdesu adept: | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | Could not find mime type | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | application/octet-stream | 01:13 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: yay | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | well, launching from the kmenu, with command of: adept %i %m -caption "%c" | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | how's that yay? | 01:13 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: it's a bug in kdesu/kubuntu/ubuntu not in adept :) | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | ah right | 01:13 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: but it would cause hangs at times | 01:14 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: before the fix that makes it pop up right away | 01:14 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: you can ignore it though | 01:14 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 01:14 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: if you click it away adept will work ok | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | hum........ knetworkmanager ftbfs because libs name are different in main than on my repo..... | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | why did they change that ? | 01:15 |
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| mornfall | Hobbsee: can you try running kdesu kbuildsycoca if it fixes the problem? | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: i will in a minute - just installing kde-devel now | 01:15 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: sure | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | and i'm pleased to see that it will install, without trying to upgrade packages | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | *upgrade other packages | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: same thing. seems to work fine. | 01:19 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: same thing = ? | 01:19 |
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| mornfall | Hobbsee: do you sometimes use adept? if yes, have you ever experienced the adept does not start problem? | 01:20 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: same thing, as in, i get the same error. | 01:20 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: after buildsycoca run? | 01:20 |
| mornfall | interesting | 01:20 |
| Hobbsee | occasonally, i do use it. even today, it did not start first time | 01:20 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: which version? | 01:21 |
| Tm_T | hum hum hum | 01:21 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: can you try reproducing it? and if it happens paste the stdout of it? (presuming you run it from terminal) | 01:21 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: it would be a huge help -- i can't reproduce it at all :'( | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: all of them | 01:21 |
| Tm_T | 13:56:23 up 2 days, 19:45, 4 users, load average: 9.15, 7.57, 5.88 | 01:21 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: i mean, 1.91? | 01:21 |
| Tm_T | now load average: 6.06, 5.14, 5.24 | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: yes, when i tested it out the first time. i didnt run it thru terminal | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | after buildsycoca run, the error about octet stream is still ther,e yes | 01:22 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: can you try reproducing it in terminal? *please please* | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | trying - but it's being nice, and starting up properly now... | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | rebooting kde... | 01:23 |
| mornfall | i want to get rid of this bug | 01:23 |
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| Hobbsee | damn thing | 01:29 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: what? | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | what is it about bugs, that lets them be reproducable the first time you boot, every time, but as soon as you *want* them to reproduce, tehy dont | 01:30 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: can you reproduce it without terminal? | 01:30 |
| mornfall | oh | 01:31 |
| mornfall | maybe it just happened tom e? | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:31 |
| mornfall | but, but... it did not deadlock | 01:32 |
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| mornfall | either it died right away, or i closed it without remembering | 01:32 |
| mornfall | which is the likely scenario :\ | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: who knows. this usually happens | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | but it's working now | 01:32 |
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| mornfall | Hobbsee: could you please look at your .xsession-errors? | 01:43 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: it could have some trace of the nonstarting adept | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: even with not being able to reproduce thru console | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: nothing of interest there - cos i rebooted, and so lost teh old session error | 01:44 |
| mornfall | damn | 01:45 |
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| mornfall | that's lame | 01:54 |
| mornfall | adept starts up every single time for me | 01:54 |
| mornfall | about ten times in a row | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | try a reboot, then starting it | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | once it starts once, it seems to always start up | 01:54 |
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| Tm_T | moin hapo | 01:55 |
| hapo | I would be interested in maintaining the package of an application that's not currently present in multiverse | 01:55 |
| hapo | how much work would that involve? | 01:55 |
| hapo | Tm_T: hejsan | 01:55 |
| Tm_T | hmm, is there debian maintainer for it? | 01:55 |
| hapo | an intresting question | 01:56 |
| hapo | 01:56 | |
| Tm_T | because afaik it could simplify it a lot | 01:56 |
| hapo | eh, +e | 01:56 |
| Tm_T | like, all you need to do is repackage or so | 01:56 |
| hapo | yup, as I've currently been doing with my unofficial packages | 01:58 |
| hapo | however, I've done them from other unofficial ones | 01:58 |
| hapo | that can be found on kmplayer's website | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | let's see... | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | AGH! debian.org is down again | 02:00 |
| tvo | it's been announced on debian-devel, it will be down till 21 UTC iirc | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | ugh | 02:01 |
| tvo | "This Saturday (2006-03-25) between 13:00 - 21:00 UTC, the debian.org machines hosted by HP are going down due to maintenance in their cage on the power systems." | 02:03 |
| Tm_T | thanks | 02:04 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: ping ? | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | I need to reactivate wifi :) | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | back in 10 minutes | 04:13 |
| Lure | Tonio_: ok | 04:14 |
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| freeflying | Lure: how about the new qt | 04:17 |
| Lure | freeflying: need to restart download - it got stalled... | 04:17 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: so | 04:24 |
| mornfall | Riddell: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/ept_1.91.tar.gz | 04:25 |
| mornfall | Riddell: i guess i won't make any further changes -- the tarball is updated to have the race fix in it | 04:25 |
| mornfall | i very much hope it fixes the adept fails to start problems | 04:25 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: I'm not able to connect with knetworkmanager anymore......... | 04:35 |
| Tonio_ | seen that problem already? | 04:35 |
| Lure | yes ;-) | 04:35 |
| Lure | Did you remove wallet and rc file? | 04:36 |
| Tonio_ | what is the issue ? | 04:36 |
| Tonio_ | yep | 04:36 |
| Lure | Then it is strange... WEP or WPA? | 04:36 |
| Tonio_ | Idid not remove wallet, but I purged knetworkmanager settings | 04:36 |
| Tonio_ | from the wallet ;) | 04:36 |
| Lure | Tonio_: that is what I did also.... | 04:36 |
| Tonio_ | wep | 04:36 |
| Lure | did you remove knetwrokmanagerrc file? | 04:36 |
| Lure | Tonio_: you cannot connect as it crashes (my report) or do you get asked for WEP key and then it does not work? | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | no | 04:37 |
| Lure | BTW, no new knm package in your repo - did you uplolad | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | no prompt.......... | 04:37 |
| Lure | You should | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I will purge and reinstall everything, and see | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I uploaded yes | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | network-manager-kde | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | install this | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | okay, I'm pruging all settings and reboot | 04:39 |
| Tonio_ | we'll see | 04:39 |
| Lure | I had installed it before, but it does not upgrade now | 04:39 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: that's okay :) | 04:43 |
| Tonio_ | I just had to reboot | 04:43 |
| Tonio_ | so what's the bug you were talking about | 04:43 |
| Tonio_ | ? | 04:44 |
| Lure | #knetworkmanager? | 04:44 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm looking at knetworkmanager for dialup | 05:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I think patching this will be quite impossible | 05:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: methods for ading, appening, remove and connect to dialup connections are about everywhere in the code........; | 05:27 |
| Tonio_ | that would result a patch about impossible to maintain with updates......... | 05:27 |
| Riddell | just remove dialup then | 05:34 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: ok ;) | 05:49 |
| Riddell | how does nm-applet do dialup? | 05:50 |
| Riddell | "Kaffeine 0.8 released" hmm | 05:50 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: it doesn't ;) | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: want me to test latest kaffeine | 05:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dialup connections is something specific to knetworkmanager/yast | 05:53 |
| Tonio_ | this is not in any other part of networkmanager | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | that's why I would suggest to remove that ;) | 05:54 |
| Riddell | "added: support for KDE 3.5's system:/ - patch by Christopher Martin " ooh | 05:55 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yeah, please package it up | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: let's go ;) | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's a good news ;) | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | kaffeine is the application for which system:/ is the most handicaping | 05:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if that works, shouldn't we consider removing my crappy patch ? | 05:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes | 05:58 |
| Tonio_ | still an issue with kate, but well..... nobody's launching kate + 50 MB text files everyday ;) | 05:58 |
| Riddell | mornfall: new adept working lovely for me, I'll upload | 06:02 |
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| verwilst | any idea when kopete 10.2 beta2 kubuntu debs will be out for dapper? | 06:08 |
| Riddell | Tm_T sometimes makes them | 06:10 |
| Tm_T | yeah, I should | 06:10 |
| Tm_T | I try tomorrow, today I feel very sick | 06:11 |
| mornfall | Riddell: cool | 06:14 |
| mornfall | Riddell: i talked few people into testing it this time, so hopefully caught the silliest bugs :-) | 06:14 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 06:17 |
| Tm_T | I wonder... | 06:18 |
| Tm_T | should I just play around with Kopete sources or do I need something from kdenetwork | 06:19 |
| Tm_T | for puilding package | 06:19 |
| Tm_T | b | 06:19 |
| Tm_T | ...hey, looks like these drugs work, dizzy \o/ | 06:19 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: I assume they're releasing stand alone tars for kopete, so use that but make sure you use a compatible number scheme | 06:20 |
| Tm_T | ok | 06:20 |
| Tm_T | yeah, as you told me to do one day | 06:20 |
| Riddell | number it 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu1kopete1 or something | 06:21 |
| Tm_T | any mirrors to http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ ? | 06:22 |
| Tm_T | I assume that I should somewhat follow that ;) | 06:22 |
| Tm_T | hmm, there's no patches we use? I think no... do we need sametime protocol support (novell groupware I think) | 06:24 |
| Riddell | we have a separate kopete-meanwhile package for that | 06:24 |
| Tm_T | ah ok | 06:25 |
| Tm_T | hmm, and we can do separate jingle package then too? | 06:25 |
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| Riddell | yes | 06:26 |
| Tm_T | but then we have to get back libortp0 (0.71) | 06:26 |
| Tm_T | aye sir | 06:26 |
| Riddell | Lure: did you test kde 3.5.2 on breezy? | 06:27 |
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| Lure | Riddell: not yet - need to nail down one k-n-m crash first | 06:30 |
| Lure | I can do it later today (at least install and basic tests) | 06:30 |
| Lure | If it does not work I will have at least a reason to install Dapper for work partition ;-) | 06:30 |
| raphink | mornfall: Riddell uploaded adept right? | 06:31 |
| Riddell | raphink: yes | 06:32 |
| raphink | thanks :) | 06:32 |
| raphink | sorry I couldn't do it, I really had to drive :) | 06:32 |
| mornfall | raphink: right | 06:40 |
| raphink | :) | 06:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: pfiuuuuuuuuuu ! kaffeine requires lots of changes :) | 06:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I need to rewrite all patches, do I use the kubuntu_ prefix, or do I keep the actual names ? | 06:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: add a kubuntu prefix | 06:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay ;) | 06:52 |
| raphink | hmm | 06:52 |
| raphink | the display module still won't work | 06:52 |
| Riddell | is my usual way anyway, the debian maintainers will take it back when they package it | 06:52 |
| Riddell | anyone had problems with amarok and taglib? | 06:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: there is no debian sync for those packages no ? | 06:53 |
| Tonio_ | I mean "autosync" | 06:53 |
| raphink | fabo: le module display marche chez toi? | 06:53 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no | 06:53 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: display module never worked on any of my computers | 06:53 |
| raphink | it worked a few days ago here Tonio_ | 06:54 |
| raphink | and now it's broken again | 06:54 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: what about the "delay to shuddown screen" ? | 06:54 |
| Tonio_ | are you able to change it ? | 06:54 |
| Tonio_ | I can change it, when going back to settings after closing systemsettings, nothing changed | 06:54 |
| Tonio_ | the module launches, but that's the only thing it does for me ;) | 06:55 |
| Tonio_ | and yes, the module doesn't even launch actually | 06:55 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: unable to launch blabla | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | that's what I get | 06:56 |
| raphink | oui aussi | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | tout pareil | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | we need to ping _Sime_ | 06:56 |
| raphink | AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getNeedVideoRam' | 06:56 |
| raphink | error: *** runFunction failure | 06:56 |
| raphink | or fabo | 06:56 |
| _Sime_ | hey | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hello ;) | 06:57 |
| raphink | hi _Sime_ | 06:57 |
| _Sime_ | whatsup? | 06:57 |
| raphink | _Sime_: it seems to me like the display module was fixed a few days ago | 06:58 |
| raphink | and it is broken again now | 06:58 |
| _Sime_ | it might just not be fixed for you. ;-) | 06:58 |
| raphink | nope | 06:58 |
| raphink | it was fixed a few days ago on this machine | 06:58 |
| raphink | and it's broken for tonio too | 06:59 |
| raphink | _Sime_: can you test please? | 06:59 |
| raphink | _Sime_: http://pastebin.com/621895 | 07:00 |
| raphink | and I'm totally up-to-date | 07:00 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I can confirm | 07:02 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: same problem? | 07:02 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: yep | 07:03 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: exactly the same, and I don't run a ppc architecture, but an i386 one | 07:05 |
| _Sime_ | mmm | 07:06 |
| raphink | _Sime_: did you test ? | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I don't have exactly the same output | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | here is my one : | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: http://pastebin.com/621911 | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | a bit different, but same result ^^ | 07:07 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: email me your xorg.conf, there appears to be a bad character in it. | 07:08 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: okay | 07:08 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: email address plz ? | 07:09 |
| _Sime_ | simon@simonzone.com | 07:09 |
| raphink | I don't have the unicode error | 07:09 |
| _Sime_ | raphink: yes, I see that. What is your email address? | 07:10 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: email gone | 07:10 |
| raphink | I have an attributeerror instead | 07:10 |
| raphink | _Sime_: raphink@u.c | 07:10 |
| Tonio_ | but my xorg.conf works perfectly ;) | 07:10 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: are you working on kaffeine 0.8? | 07:11 |
| raphink | I also get error messages on the sharing section. can you confirm tonio? | 07:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes ;) | 07:11 |
| Tonio_ | there are many little things to clean, like xpm file etc...... | 07:12 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: should be okay in 30 minutes | 07:12 |
| Riddell | cool, thanks, I'll wait and batch my upstream version freeze exception requests then | 07:12 |
| raphink | Tonio_: tu as une erreur quand tu cliques sur "sharing" dans systemsettings? | 07:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 07:13 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: je te dis ca | 07:13 |
| raphink | ok | 07:13 |
| raphink | moi j'ai | 07:13 |
| raphink | Impossible de trouver le module . | 07:13 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: unable to find module << >> | 07:14 |
| raphink | Impossible de trouver le module . | 07:14 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 07:14 |
| raphink | oui | 07:14 |
| raphink | et il me le refais | 07:14 |
| raphink | quand je clique sur les onglets Lisa et lan:/ ioslave | 07:14 |
| raphink | enfin dmon lisa | 07:14 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: tout pareil | 07:15 |
| apachelogger | raphink: hi, if there is a new version of kblogger which fixes the blogger.com issue, is it possible to get into dapper? | 07:15 |
| raphink | oki | 07:15 |
| raphink | apachelogger: request an UVF exception | 07:15 |
| raphink | see the ubuntu-motu ML for instructions | 07:16 |
| apachelogger | ok, thx | 07:16 |
| raphink | Tonio_: ok this is a problem with the lanbrowser module it seems | 07:16 |
| raphink | i'll check it | 07:16 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: did you reinstall dapper recently? | 07:17 |
| Tonio_ | k | 07:17 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: not myself | 07:17 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: my installation is about one month | 07:17 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: did you use accented chars in xorg.conf? or did the installer do that? | 07:18 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: the installer does that unfortunately | 07:18 |
| Tonio_ | I know that's not nice at all.......; | 07:18 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: was that always so? or was it recently changed? | 07:19 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: that was always | 07:19 |
| raphink | _Sime_: the module was fixed for me a few days ago | 07:19 |
| raphink | then yesterday it was broken again | 07:19 |
| raphink | not sure when it happened | 07:19 |
| Tonio_ | xorg installer uses "carte video gnrique" | 07:19 |
| Tonio_ | and that causes crappy xorg.conf | 07:19 |
| _Sime_ | raphink: did you get my mail? | 07:19 |
| raphink | nope | 07:19 |
| raphink | not yet | 07:19 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: do you confirm you already saw that with xorg configurator ? | 07:20 |
| raphink | huh? | 07:20 |
| Tonio_ | Identifier "cran gnrique" | 07:20 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: something like that | 07:21 |
| _Sime_ | raphink: ok, this time I | 07:21 |
| Tonio_ | it is not nice to have accents in a config file..... | 07:21 |
| raphink | mhm | 07:21 |
| _Sime_ | raphink: I've got the address right. | 07:21 |
| raphink | I don't have the unicode error Tonio_ | 07:21 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: 0.6.3 should be able to handle it. | 07:21 |
| raphink | ok wait a min | 07:22 |
| raphink | I'm gonna track this LISa bug in kcontrol | 07:22 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: I can reproduce your problem here BTW. | 07:22 |
| raphink | for a short while, before I got out ;) | 07:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: cool ;) | 07:22 |
| raphink | _Sime_: sent back | 07:23 |
| raphink | very nice idea to make such a program :) | 07:23 |
| Lure | Riddell: kwin just crashed on console switch with keyboard (KDE 3.5.2) | 07:23 |
| _Sime_ | raphink: thanks. | 07:23 |
| raphink | :) | 07:24 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: there is something dumb happening in python's csv module.... :-/ I've opened the file with right encoding but BOOM! I'll work it out. | 07:24 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: okay, thanks :) | 07:26 |
| _Sime_ | raphink: what are you running dapper on? | 07:27 |
| raphink | powerbook g4 | 07:27 |
| === _Sime_ tries to hold back the tears. | ||
| raphink | :( | 07:29 |
| raphink | aaaww :( | 07:29 |
| raphink | _Sime_: I'm sorry, it just worked 3 days ago I'm sure | 07:29 |
| raphink | now it says the module can't be found | 07:29 |
| _Sime_ | raphink: all your old xorg.conf file are backed up in /etc/X11/ | 07:30 |
| _Sime_ | raphink: maybe you can see what has changed in the last few days. | 07:30 |
| raphink | you think this is ap roblem with xorg ? | 07:31 |
| _Sime_ | maybe | 07:31 |
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| _Sime_ | with the data you sent me I can probably reproduce the exception here. | 07:31 |
| raphink | ok | 07:31 |
| raphink | lets see | 07:31 |
| _Sime_ | but first it is time to go do the food thing. | 07:31 |
| raphink | I have no xorg.conf backup | 07:32 |
| Riddell | Lure: can you reproduce that crash? | 07:32 |
| raphink | and the creation date of the current one is from 15 days ago | 07:32 |
| Riddell | Lure: 3.5.2 installed ok otherwise? | 07:32 |
| raphink | i.e. when I installed dapper on this machine | 07:32 |
| raphink | so it hasn't be changed | 07:32 |
| raphink | hence I doubt this is it _Sime_ | 07:33 |
| Lure | Riddell: yes 3.5.2 installed fine and running w/o any noticable problems. | 07:33 |
| Riddell | Lure: great, many thanks | 07:33 |
| Riddell | Lure: could you test koffice 1.5 rc1 as well? | 07:33 |
| Lure | I now has also freeflying's qt - this might be an issue, but I can also downgrade if you think needed | 07:33 |
| Riddell | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-15rc1/ breezy main | 07:34 |
| Riddell | nah, new qt needs testing too | 07:34 |
| Lure | Riddell: I do not use koffice, but can install... ;-) | 07:34 |
| Lure | Riddell: BTW, this crash was on dapper (did not boot into breezy yet) and before I installed qt | 07:35 |
| Lure | Riddell: one thing I noticed after login qith new qt - tray icons were updated very visible - never noticed it before | 07:36 |
| Lure | like they would be refreshed several times (too many times), when new icons were added | 07:36 |
| Lure | will pay attention next time I log in | 07:37 |
| Riddell | Lure: so you only tested 3.5.2 on dapper? | 07:38 |
| Lure | Riddell: yes, up to now | 07:38 |
| Riddell | it's breezy that needs testing | 07:38 |
| Lure | Riddell: will do today. | 07:39 |
| Lure | BTW, this switch-desktop-slowness due to (probably) crystal is making me nervous | 07:39 |
| Riddell | I've not had that problem, can you turn off crystal kwin deco to make sure that's what it is? | 07:40 |
| raphink | Riddell: confirmed and filed a long time ago | 07:45 |
| raphink | for ppc | 07:45 |
| raphink | and when I say it is slow, I really mean it | 07:46 |
| raphink | it freezes everything | 07:46 |
| raphink | including the keyboard | 07:46 |
| raphink | for 5 minutes when I start KDE | 07:46 |
| raphink | and it's due to the crystal win deco _exclusively_ | 07:46 |
| raphink | I checked it | 07:46 |
| raphink | furthermore, as some people pointed on forums and blogs, this deco resembles the vista one too much | 07:47 |
| raphink | which is another point against using it ;) | 07:47 |
| raphink | anyway | 07:47 |
| raphink | gtg | 07:47 |
| raphink | later guys | 07:47 |
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| === luka74 is Lure ;-) | ||
| luka74 | Riddell: slowdown is only with new login session immedeately after login | 07:52 |
| luka74 | first click on another desktop is fast, but then immediate click on another desktop takes 15 sec or so | 07:52 |
| luka74 | Then my machine hangs on End session (ATI), so I had to reboot and now downloading kde 3.5.2 | 07:53 |
| luka74 | Riddell: is it OK that packages are not signed (brezzy kde 3.5.2)? | 07:54 |
| luka74 | and actually I have koffice1.5beta1 on my breezy (not really used), so I can try to upgrade too | 07:54 |
| luka74 | can you repeat the repository URL again? | 07:55 |
| Riddell | luka74: packages should be signed (by me) | 07:55 |
| Riddell | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-15rc1/ breezy main | 07:55 |
| Riddell | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352/ breezy main | 07:55 |
| luka74 | they are not - have downloaded your key again | 07:56 |
| luka74 | Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? y | 07:57 |
| luka74 | I did install key again as described here: | 07:58 |
| luka74 | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-amarok-beta2.php | 07:58 |
| luka74 | (this was last announcement on kubuntu.org where your key is mentioned) | 07:58 |
| Riddell | hmm, confirmed | 08:00 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: I am trying to get pbuilder on my breezy (while waiting for 3.5.2 to install) | 08:06 |
| Lure | sudo pbuilder create --distribution dapper | 08:07 |
| Lure | this fails with debootstrap error | 08:07 |
| Lure | I am going through the steps described in PbuilderHowto (wiki) | 08:07 |
| Riddell | you need debootstrap from dapper to build a dapper chroot | 08:07 |
| Lure | OK, then I will just do it in dapper - I just tried to get used to while waiting... | 08:08 |
| Riddell | archive signing should be fixed now | 08:10 |
| Lure | Riddell: 3.5.2 installed - no scary messages, only this one worth mentioning: | 08:10 |
| Lure | dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/etc/kde3/magic': Directory not empty | 08:10 |
| Lure | will now upgrade also koffice and then reboot to test | 08:11 |
| Lure | Riddell: got this from apt-get update when added koffice-15rc1 repository | 08:12 |
| Lure | W: Conflicting distribution: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release (expected breezy but got dapper) | 08:12 |
| Lure | ugly... | 08:12 |
| Lure | has nothing to do with koffice - also get this without that repo... | 08:13 |
| Lure | not sure what could have caused this (beside kde3.5.2 or my try with pbuilder) | 08:14 |
| Lure | in my /e/a/sources.list, I have standard repos (with si. prefix) + backports + amarok-1.3.8 + wine | 08:15 |
| Lure | all have breezy (wine has binary/), no mention of dapper | 08:15 |
| Lure | maybe your authentication fix? ;-) | 08:16 |
| Riddell | hang on a sec | 08:16 |
| Riddell | should be fixed now | 08:20 |
| Lure | Riddell: new one: | 08:22 |
| Lure | : GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com> | 08:22 |
| Riddell | ok fixed | 08:27 |
| Riddell | not sure what caused that | 08:27 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok now, koffice upgrade in process (did not complain about not being signed) | 08:28 |
| Riddell | phew :) | 08:28 |
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| verwilst | oh, kaffeine 0.8 is out? | 08:29 |
| Riddell | apparantly so, quite a silly time for it to be put out | 08:30 |
| verwilst | why's that? :) | 08:31 |
| Riddell | there's a pending security update for kaffeine | 08:31 |
| verwilst | oh | 08:32 |
| verwilst | and it's fixed in 0.8? | 08:32 |
| === verwilst hopes it'll fix bug 5346 | ||
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 5346 in kaffeine "Kaffeine crashes konqueror when trying to play embedded movies" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/5346 | 08:32 |
| Riddell | I think everyone will be hoping that | 08:32 |
| verwilst | annoying bug eh :d | 08:33 |
| === Lure rebooting into new shiny Breezy KDE 3.5.2... ;-) | ||
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| Riddell | uh oh | 08:40 |
| Riddell | ah hah! | 08:40 |
| Riddell | Lure: success? | 08:40 |
| Lure | Riddell: so far, so good... | 08:40 |
| === Lure testing programs I need on Monday to do the work... ;-) | ||
| Riddell | koshell working? | 08:44 |
| Lure | Riddell: it comes up, not sure what it should do... ;-) | 08:51 |
| Lure | I just used kword/kspread and krita until now | 08:51 |
| Riddell | Lure: start a new kword document or something | 08:51 |
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| Lure | started one of each, looks good... | 08:52 |
| Riddell | great, thanks for that Lure | 08:53 |
| Lure | actually, koffice look really nice - great improvement from 1.4 | 08:53 |
| Lure | will it get into dapper? | 08:53 |
| Riddell | no idea | 08:54 |
| Lure | otherwise my key apps still work as expected (kontact (could not test imap), konqi, kopete, konversation, ...) | 08:55 |
| Lure | Riddell: anything else you would like me to test on breezy? otherwise I will go to dapper to fix knm | 08:56 |
| Lure | if anything pops up, you will here from me next week (I have to work on this breezy, you know ;-)) | 08:57 |
| Riddell | Lure: I think that's all the testing needed for now | 08:58 |
| Lure | ok, be back after reboot | 08:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kaffeine packages okay | 09:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: gui changes a LOT | 09:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: strange feeling in some point........ | 09:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: wanna test ? | 09:01 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sure | 09:03 |
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| Riddell | anyone running kde 3.5.1 able to test something? | 09:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: gonna eat, but I can test what you want in 15 minutes | 09:03 |
| Lure | Riddell: back on dapper and can confirm that crystal is responsible for slowness (app start, desktop switch) | 09:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you can install new kaffeine using my repo | 09:04 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: URL? | 09:04 |
| Riddell | Lure: I've e-mailed the author | 09:04 |
| Lure | I have now Platik and Dapper is snappy again - I almost forgot the feeling... | 09:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://kubuntu.no-ip.org/ | 09:04 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: using a ppc ? | 09:04 |
| Lure | no, i386 | 09:04 |
| Tonio_ | hum, I don't have problems with crystal | 09:05 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: talking about the window decoration ? | 09:05 |
| Lure | Tonio_: do a new login session, click on another desktop, followed with click on third desktop | 09:05 |
| Lure | on my system first switch of desktop, then it is 15 sec delay | 09:05 |
| Tonio_ | hum, will test :) | 09:06 |
| Lure | and each app startup is slower by a sec or so (just first time I would say) | 09:06 |
| Lure | just switch to Plastik and you will notice the difference | 09:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: system:/home causes the issue anyway.........; kaffeine 0.8 doesn't resolve anything......... | 09:07 |
| Lure | Tonio_: :-( | 09:07 |
| mornfall | Riddell: hmm, do i need to subscribe to each bug individually in malone or there's some trick i missed? | 09:07 |
| Lure | mornfall: you can subscribe a package | 09:07 |
| === Tonio_ out for 30 minutes ;) | ||
| Lure | when you browse and have source URL of you package, just add /+subscribe | 09:08 |
| === mornfall frowns at the sidebars moving to different places every click | ||
| Lure | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ept/+subscribe | 09:08 |
| mornfall | okey, it is under bugmail | 09:08 |
| === Lure agrees about sidebars | ||
| mornfall | now if only this thing could remember my sort settings | 09:09 |
| mornfall | clicking few times totally confuses me every time | 09:09 |
| === Tonio_ doesn't like new kaffeine gui....... | ||
| mornfall | because it reorders the bugs while i don't look | 09:09 |
| mornfall | :| | 09:09 |
| Riddell | mornfall: you can subscribe to a package (although it won't subribe you to existing reports, only new ones) | 09:09 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I can't get kaffeint to play anything | 09:09 |
| mornfall | oh lord | 09:10 |
| Lure | Riddell: but you can nicely go to package list of bugs | 09:10 |
| mornfall | i will just hope the bugmail thing works | 09:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: strange, works for me....... | 09:10 |
| Tonio_ | did you remove kaffeinerc ? | 09:10 |
| Lure | https://launchpad.net/people/lure/+packagebugs | 09:10 |
| mornfall | can anyone give me a hint on how to add columns to the bug list? | 09:10 |
| mornfall | i must be utterly clueless :| | 09:11 |
| Lure | mornfall: nice try... ;-) this is not bugzilla... | 09:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I just opened an avi/xvid file, an ogm file, an wmv file, and everything is nice....... | 09:11 |
| mornfall | i know it's not bugzilla | 09:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: did you install the new kaffeine-xine ???? | 09:12 |
| mornfall | Lure: but a custom bug view is a fairly basic thing | 09:12 |
| mornfall | Lure: like, what you do when you have 200 bugs? | 09:12 |
| Lure | mornfall: cry? | 09:12 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: installing kaffeine-xine fixes it, we need kaffeine to depend on a versioned kaffeine-xine | 09:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay ;) I would have done the oposite :) making kaffeine-xine depending kaffeine | 09:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: doing that right now | 09:14 |
| Tonio_ | but first, gonna eat or I will die :) | 09:14 |
| Lure | Riddell: interesting - in my case kaffeine-xine was auto upgraded | 09:15 |
| Lure | you did not have it installed before? | 09:15 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I think riddell didn't upgrade using my repo, and simply installed "kaffeine" | 09:16 |
| Tonio_ | that's the reason | 09:16 |
| Tonio_ | actually kaffeine-xine depends on kaffeine, but not the oposite | 09:16 |
| Lure | ok, I got it for free as I use your repo for nm | 09:16 |
| Lure | ;-) | 09:16 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: so if you update, that works | 09:16 |
| Riddell | hmm, news.bbc.co.uk media player doesn't want to work for me with new kaffeine | 09:16 |
| Lure | should it depend the opposite? what if you use gstreamer? | 09:17 |
| Riddell | crashes konqueror | 09:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I will make deep tests toonight | 09:17 |
| Riddell | Lure: if we get the gstreamer plugin again it should depend on kaffine-xine | kaffeine-gstreamer | 09:17 |
| Lure | Riddell: got it! | 09:17 |
| Riddell | ah, we want kaffeine-xine to depend on = kaffeine version not >= | 09:18 |
| mornfall | trac is not optimal but it seems to be a lot better anyway | 09:18 |
| mornfall | and it's in python | 09:20 |
| verwilst | well | 09:21 |
| Lure | Tonio_: you should probably remove nm-applet/knetworkmanager packages - or not? | 09:21 |
| verwilst | i love the work you guys keep pouring into kubuntu! | 09:21 |
| verwilst | so keep up the good work! | 09:21 |
| verwilst | now i'm going to a friend's birthday party | 09:21 |
| verwilst | wish me luck on finding some nice girls | 09:21 |
| verwilst | :d | 09:21 |
| verwilst | ;) | 09:21 |
| verwilst | ( i congratulated you guys, it's the least you can do in return! ) | 09:22 |
| verwilst | hehe ;) | 09:22 |
| sebas | Girls only distract from coding. | 09:24 |
| verwilst | well, i usually have the opposite :p | 09:25 |
| verwilst | i'm more productive when i have a girl | 09:25 |
| verwilst | :p | 09:25 |
| verwilst | not in quantity, but in quality ;) | 09:25 |
| sebas | Mine is away for the weekend, a friend has come by and we're hacking along. | 09:25 |
| verwilst | cool :) | 09:25 |
| sebas | Yeah :) | 09:25 |
| verwilst | anyways, got to run, 2 minutes left to be at a friend's house! :p | 09:26 |
| sebas | hf :) | 09:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: eating and making the changes | 09:30 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: that may end up with messed up keyboard ;-) | 09:31 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: does news.bbc video work for you? | 09:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: let me check | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: crashes | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://jt.france2.fr/13h/ | 09:34 |
| Tonio_ | french news work for me :) | 09:34 |
| Tonio_ | we need to test a few other video websites | 09:34 |
| Riddell | yeah but who needs the french news, it's all just more riots :) | 09:34 |
| Lure | mornfall: is "could not find mime/type" with adept 1.91 expected? | 09:40 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: ^_^ | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well videos work on lots of websites for me, but konqueror is generally crashing when changing page | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and I confirm it doesn't work on news.bbc | 09:50 |
| Riddell | working but crashing when changing page is normal | 09:51 |
| Riddell | news.bbc worked with 0.7 though | 09:51 |
| Riddell | kmplayer works fine with news.bbc on the other hand | 09:51 |
| Riddell | although the kmplayer standalone user interface is not great | 09:51 |
| mornfall | Lure: only if your system is broken :) | 09:52 |
| Riddell | hapo: kmplayer-app isn't needed and kmplayer package is empty | 09:52 |
| mornfall | Lure: but otherwise yes | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | kmplayer is way better for embedded videos | 09:52 |
| mornfall | Lure: tell Riddell | 09:52 |
| mornfall | Lure: i told him ;-) | 09:52 |
| toma | kmplayer rocks | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: isn't the god solution having both ? | 09:52 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: hardly ideal but maybe we should do that | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | kmplayer for streaming and kaffeine for local ? | 09:52 |
| Lure | Riddell: my system is broken (confirmed by mornfall) ;-) | 09:52 |
| Riddell | Lure: I can't recreate that problem | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: when I'm saying "ideal" I mean "regarding bugs, the ideal blabla" ;) | 09:53 |
| Riddell | which is a pain | 09:53 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I must say I'm not convinced by this latest kmplayer........; | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | gui is "strange" on smoe points, and all those encoding functions are not of any use, and duplicate already insalled stuff... | 09:54 |
| Riddell | yes | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | I don't see, in fact, what is "better" with this version........ | 09:55 |
| mornfall | Riddell: happens on many systems... hobbsee would confirm if she was there | 09:55 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: kmplayer or kaffeine? | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | kaffeine | 09:55 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: so lets stay with kaffine 0.7 I guess | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: waiting for dapper+1, I think that's better | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but we should consider kmplayer for konqueror :) | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | which is really, really great | 09:56 |
| === Tonio_ just saw he wrote "kmplayer".... sorry Riddell :) | ||
| mornfall | Lure: anything else with new adept? :-) | 10:00 |
| mornfall | Lure: hammer on it | 10:00 |
| mornfall | especially if you own some sort of AMD cpu | 10:01 |
| mornfall | sempron = best | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | Could not find mime type | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | application/octet-stream | 10:01 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: tell Riddell | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | I have that too Lure ;) | 10:01 |
| Lure | mornfall: it seems to start faster - I am more apt-get user, | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can confirm lure's issue, just upgraded and adept doesn't work anymore | 10:01 |
| Lure | mornfall: I have i386 | 10:01 |
| Riddell | wah | 10:01 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: huh? :) | 10:01 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: it should work | 10:02 |
| Lure | Tonio_: doesn't work or just warning | 10:02 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: just dismiss the dialog | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: yes, after the error, it works (second try) | 10:02 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: what happened in the first try? | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I though doesn't work, but next attempts, it is just warning | 10:02 |
| mornfall | damnit what happened first time | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: error message and nothing happened....... I had to relaunch adept | 10:02 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: please recover your .xsession-errors before its late | 10:03 |
| mornfall | i need the data | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: okay | 10:03 |
| mornfall | as much as i can get that is | 10:03 |
| Lure | mornfall: is adept updater gone - I just see adept in system menu (and adept notifier) | 10:03 |
| mornfall | Lure: it's available through notifier only | 10:03 |
| mornfall | Lure: i did not invent that | 10:03 |
| Lure | make sense... | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: I backed it up :) | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: but don't consider my computer as an example, I did so many tests that my profile is completly crappy | 10:05 |
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| mornfall | Tonio_: it should not hang at start anyway | 10:05 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: if you can extract the relevant output and paste it, i would be happy :) | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: let me have a look :) | 10:06 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: i spent hours hunting down those damn elusive startup bugs | 10:06 |
| mornfall | if there's some left i want to know about it | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: I know kdesu isn't your best friend ;) | 10:06 |
| mornfall | problem is that it never happens on my machine | 10:06 |
| mornfall | not with sudo, not with upstream kdesu and not with kubuntu kdesu | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: guess what ? :) | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | no pb with sudo adept | 10:07 |
| mornfall | what? :-) | 10:07 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: that's nothing new | 10:07 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: the problem is in root's ksycoca i bet | 10:07 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: but that's besides the point, there's a different issue that causes startup problems | 10:08 |
| mornfall | i have probably fixed a kdbgstream related deadlock | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: good news ;) | 10:08 |
| mornfall | but if there's something left, it could use fixing :) | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | adept %i %m -caption "%c" -> mime problem | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | kdesu adept -> no problem | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: I would suggest simply patching the desktop file | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: no ? | 10:08 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: what about %m? | 10:08 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: can you remove it and retry? | 10:09 |
| Tonio_ | yes | 10:09 |
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| mornfall | Tonio_: %i and -caption is fairly useful | 10:09 |
| mornfall | %m is useless relict on the other hand :-)) | 10:09 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: no, still the problem | 10:09 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: oh yew | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | but simply "kdesu adept" is perfect | 10:10 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: i would like to have the faulty component fixed :) | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: why not simply using this ? | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: testing option by option :) | 10:10 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: sudo --icon adept -caption works or breaks? | 10:10 |
| mornfall | err | 10:10 |
| mornfall | sudo adept ... | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: so here is the point : | 10:11 |
| Tonio_ | kdesu adept in K menu works for me | 10:11 |
| Tonio_ | but "adept" and "use different user" checked, doesn't work :) | 10:11 |
| mornfall | hah | 10:12 |
| === mornfall bets this is causing some headaches with admin mode of kcm modules as well | ||
| mornfall | either way, if this doesn't get fixed till rc, i'll flip it for rc | 10:13 |
| mornfall | in .desktop | 10:14 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: so now for the hang :) | 10:14 |
| mornfall | or crash | 10:14 |
| mornfall | or what it was | 10:14 |
| mornfall | that's more interesting | 10:14 |
| === mornfall is wondering how to motivate people | ||
| toma | i'm motivated | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: okay, tests finished | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: ALL options are faulty :) | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | only "adept" with no option works | 10:15 |
| mornfall | i can promise beers for important info leading to bug resolution :-) | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | adept %i, adept %m or adept "%c" | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | all of that is creating the issue | 10:16 |
| === mornfall blames kdesu | ||
| mornfall | as usual ;-) | 10:17 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: what is the need of those options in fact ? | 10:17 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: translated captions for one i think | 10:18 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: and overriding app icons in .desktop file | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | but what actually uses it ? | 10:18 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: it's standard kde | 10:19 |
| Tonio_ | simple "adept" works exactly the same for me........ | 10:19 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: okay | 10:19 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: the app with such desktop file will get the desktop's icon and caption | 10:19 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: makes customisation easier | 10:19 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: (without the options, you would have to change binaries) | 10:19 |
| Riddell | "Accepted network-manager 0.6.1-0ubuntu1" | 10:20 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: when can we upload knetworkmanager? | 10:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is wpasupplicant in main now ? cause the actuall nm package ftbfs without wpasupplicant | 10:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we can ust now :) | 10:20 |
| Tonio_ | as long as I'm sure it builds correctly ;) | 10:21 |
| Riddell | wpasupplicant is in main | 10:21 |
| Lure | Riddell: did n-m build? | 10:21 |
| Lure | ok, then it probably went through... | 10:21 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/network-manager/0.6.1-0ubuntu1 dep-wait | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: testing knm build now, and if it is okay, we can upload it | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: adept-_installer craches very often for me actually........ | 10:25 |
| mornfall | uhmh | 10:25 |
| mornfall | that'd be first ever reported crash in _installer | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: I will recreate my profile........ it is too crappy | 10:26 |
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| mornfall | Tonio_: get me details *before* that | 10:26 |
| mornfall | even if the profile is borked the data is valuable | 10:26 |
| mornfall | borked profile may expose otherwise hard to reproduce bugs | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: simply clicking in it a few times and then the windows dissapears | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: no error message, nothing | 10:27 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: backtrace? sudo gdb adept_installer to run it | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: testing | 10:28 |
| === mornfall tries reproducing | ||
| mornfall | still no crash | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: just craches | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: about 50 clicks needed ;) | 10:32 |
| === mornfall has a theory | ||
| mornfall | right | 10:32 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: culprit -- back to program selection | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | culprit ? | 10:33 |
| mornfall | n : someone who perpetrates wrongdoing [syn: {perpetrator}] | 10:33 |
| mornfall | :-) | 10:34 |
| mornfall | anyhow, i now know where the problem is | 10:34 |
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| Tonio_ | mornfall: it mostly happen when changing the application selection from kde to gnome or the oposite | 10:35 |
| === mornfall test-compiles fix | ||
| mornfall | Tonio_: it will happen after applying changes reliably -- only matter of time | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: okay ;) | 10:37 |
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| mornfall | as usual a stupid bug | 10:37 |
| mornfall | i'll hopefully have a patch in 5 minutes or so | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: libnm-util-dev missing, and knetworkmanager doesn't build | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we have to wait for network-manager to be built | 10:43 |
| Riddell | ok, fair enough | 10:43 |
| Riddell | would be cool to have knetworkmanager in for flight 6 | 10:43 |
| jtshaw | Tonio_: I'm finally getting to looking at the system:// thing... | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | jtshaw: ok cool ;) | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: could be okay for tomorrow, we just need nm to be built | 10:44 |
| === mornfall wonders if Riddell could add a patch and make 1.91ubuntu2 :-) | ||
| mornfall | (once i test the patch) | 10:45 |
| mornfall | and it turns out to work :)) | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: about flight 6, do you think about adding knm by default ? | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | jtshaw: that's a vey annoying bug ;) | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | jtshaw: have you well understood what is needed exactly ? I haven't been very clear this afternoon I think | 10:50 |
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| mornfall | https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/36639 | 10:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 36639 in ept adept "Kubuntu 6.04 DapperAdept Manager not always accessible" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:52 |
| mornfall | ^^ what should i make out of that? | 10:52 |
| Riddell | mornfall: yes, can upload a fix | 10:53 |
| jtshaw | Tonio_: More explination couldn't hurt | 10:54 |
| === Lure built first package with pbuilder | ||
| jtshaw | Tonio_: Your patch is in the patch file already right? (my internet connection is being slow.. source package is still downloading...) | 10:54 |
| Lure | jtshaw: Tonio_ left.... | 10:54 |
| jtshaw | opps... | 10:55 |
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| Riddell | Lure gets the beastie master of the day award | 10:56 |
| Lure | Riddell: since Tonio_ is not here - what is the fastest way to get debug build (-g) of the package | 10:56 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I'll follow ubuntu for where we install network-manager | 10:56 |
| Riddell | which is currently on live and ship | 10:56 |
| Lure | Riddell: ;-) only when I know how to build debug builds... | 10:57 |
| Lure | df | 10:58 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay ;) | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: which -g package needed ? | 10:59 |
| Lure | knm | 10:59 |
| Lure | I would think I can pass CFLAGS=-g somehow | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | you need a debug version ? | 10:59 |
| Lure | yes | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | hum, need to check sources for this, but I can do it | 11:00 |
| Lure | I thought this is the same for all packages... | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: it is a configure option, I can build the package if you want | 11:01 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I would rather do it myself in case I need multiple tries... | 11:01 |
| jtshaw | Tonio_: Is there a bug report with on launchpad with the full description of the problem? | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | lure : CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS are set to "-g -Wall -O2" by default. (from cdbs documentation) | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | but adding this : COMMON_CONFIGURE_FLAGS := --debug | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | could dothe job | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | jtshaw: there are so many ;) | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | jtshaw: want a resume in private ? | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | that'll be easier | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: so -g option is the default........ | 11:04 |
| jtshaw | tonio_ sure | 11:04 |
| Lure | Tonio_: interesting, why I did not get stack trace with that crash - will start from fresh knm install again | 11:05 |
| Lure | Tonio_: thanks. | 11:05 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: add the --debug configure option in rules | 11:05 |
| Lure | Tonio_: BTW, you should update chaneglog (still note about of noVPN) | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | Added patches/kubuntu_02_noVPN.patch to remove vpn support | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | what's the problem ? | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | the patch is still there :) | 11:09 |
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| Tonio_ | did we actually make vpn working ? | 11:09 |
| Lure | but we should remove it - n-m has VPN support | 11:09 |
| Lure | but you are right, we need to wait for n-m build, then we can test our build | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | hu ? | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | vpn working ? | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | interesting | 11:10 |
| Lure | exactly - Keybuk decided tha VPN is not an issue anymore and included it | 11:10 |
| Lure | we were all suprised | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | great ;) | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: updating the package | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | thanks for the info | 11:11 |
| Lure | Tonio_: will not build unless you have n-m-dev from offical repo (with VPN headers) | 11:12 |
| Lure | I have compiled it myself manually today w/o problems (no patches at all) | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: that's wy I updated source package only :) | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: how many hours is the cycle for packages to be build ? | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | 6 hours I think ? | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: do you want a knetworkmanager entry in the kmenu ? or do I hide it like adept_updater -as it autostarts) | 11:16 |
| Riddell | hide it | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 11:22 |
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| Lure_ | Tonio_: stack trace is there (not sure where I was looking last time) | 11:25 |
| Lure_ | Dialog crashes on QDialog::show | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | hum....... | 11:25 |
| Lure_ | I suspect dialog is not properly constructed for my case (WPA2-PSK) | 11:26 |
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| Lure_ | will also send stack trace to Timo (author) | 11:26 |
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| Lure_ | Tonio_: nice, it does not crash under valgrind | 11:40 |
| Lure_ | but luckily, valgrind has lot's to tell about him... ;-) | 11:40 |
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