[01:50] <JulienH> If I download http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/, and type "server" just before install... I have the same install with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/, am I right ?
[04:46] <nictuku> infinity, may I /query you?
[12:11] <munzir> Hi, I just installed ubuntu-server dapper and choose the option of lvm and it booted properly. I remember / shouldn't be made lvm am I wrong?
[12:14] <ajmitch> it's generally fine to have / on LVM when you have a separate /boot
[12:15] <ajmitch> but grub doesn't read LVM volumes to find the kernel, and you're assuming that the kernel will stay on 1 physical volume if you use lilo - which isn't always true
[12:15] <ajmitch> hence the need for separate /boot
[12:16] <munzir> ajmitch: I just did a default installation where boot is not separate, and the default is grub so how come it boots?
[12:17] <munzir> ajmitch: ;)
[12:18] <ajmitch> last time I tried, it selected lilo automatically, which I didn't really want
[12:18] <ajmitch> since then I've just done installations with /boot separate
[12:19] <munzir> ajmitch: I just checked it and it's grub not lilo by default choosen. lilo is not installed
[12:20] <ajmitch> and mount tells you that /boot is not separate?
[12:22] <munzir> ajmitch: huh! this is something new to me. mount tells me this:
[12:22] <munzir> /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:22] <munzir> /dev/sda5 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
[12:22] <ajmitch> ah right
[12:22] <ajmitch> so it did setup /boot separately, that's good to see
[12:23] <ajmitch> how big is it?
[12:23] <munzir> ajmitch: df -h / gives: 129G  569M  122G   1% /
[12:24] <fabbione> ajmitch: yes i did make sure /boot is separated when autopartitioning with LVM
[12:24] <munzir> ajmitch: this is 3 HD with 73G each in RAID5
[12:24] <ajmitch> fabbione: a welcome change from last time I made that mistake :)
[12:24] <fabbione> ajmitch: manual partitioning you are on your own
[12:24] <fabbione> ajmitch: eheh
[12:24] <ajmitch> yeah I always go for manual now
[12:25] <fabbione> yeah
[12:25] <munzir> fabbione: but I don't remember this is listed. I remember the installation only mentioned / and swap, am I wrong?
[12:25] <fabbione> you still can't setup lvm over raid automatically
[12:25] <munzir> fabbione: so what I am doing is wrong?
[12:25] <fabbione> munzir: i am pretty sure it writes also /boot, but the page in there doesn't scroll
[12:25] <fabbione> so it might be after
[12:25] <fabbione> and you don't notice
[12:26] <munzir> fabbione: ok I will notice it next time ;)
[12:26] <fabbione> yeah
[12:26] <fabbione> i am sure it works
[12:26] <fabbione> i wrote that code :)
[12:26] <fabbione> and tested
[12:26] <munzir> fabbione: you said lvm over raid can't be set automatically?
[12:26] <fabbione> there are still some annoying corner cases, but it's not easy to fix
[12:26] <fabbione> munzir: it depends at what stage...
[12:27] <fabbione> but you can set it up manually
[12:27] <fabbione> there is no UI to say: make these 20 disks a raid and slam lvm on it
[12:27] <fabbione> not directly at leat
[12:27] <fabbione> least
[12:27] <fabbione> i *might* do it for dapper+1
[12:28] <fabbione> anyway .. back to mount this rack
[12:28] <munzir> fabbione: what do you mean, please? I just choose RAID in the installer and it did the formatting and mentioned the size for 2HD only so I guessed it's ok. then I choose lvm and now it seems it's working, where should i expect the problem? I am using dapper
[12:28] <fabbione> later
[12:28] <fabbione> munzir: you did use manual partitioning.. nothing to phear
[12:28] <munzir> fabbione: no I did automatic
[12:29] <fabbione> automatic does not do raid
[12:29] <fabbione> so you did manual somehow
[12:29] <munzir> fabbione: ah! may be ;)
[12:29] <fabbione> i am sure
[12:29] <munzir> fabbione: definitely I trust you
[12:29] <fabbione> ok
[12:29] <munzir> more than I trust myself
[12:29] <fabbione> good :)
[12:29] <fabbione> i am off now...
[12:29] <munzir> ok
[12:29] <munzir> thanks
[12:29] <fabbione> gotta finish to cable this rack
[12:29] <munzir> a lost for your help
[12:29] <fabbione> and move the server in there
[12:29] <fabbione> no problem
[12:30] <munzir> Sirs, what's the best tool you use to administer the server from GUI? I see webmin is not there
[10:41] <thinkloop> im trying to get my mail servers to work but having problems. Anyone know where exim4 creates its mailbox?