[05:31] <[1] Robb> mornin
[05:36] <LaserJock> hi
[06:42] <iGotNoTime> Good day :)
[06:42] <iGotNoTime> Does anyone here use SATA drives?
[07:32] <iGotNoTime> I am having issues on my laptop
[07:32] <iGotNoTime> it is not kicking my fan on, and it is getting VERY hot
[07:35] <iGotNoTime> nevermind getting too hot to talk now :P Be back soon enough :)
[07:36] <Yagisan> iGotNoTime: what about SATA ?
[07:36] <Yagisan> too slow
[07:50] <[1] Robb> out of curiosity does anyone know of a way to make edubuntu "live"?
[08:47] <KaoticEvil> hey everyone :)
[08:47] <KaoticEvil> anyone installed edubuntu on their kid's computers?
[11:05] <Burgundavia> KaoticEvil: yes, I know of at least one person that has
[12:02] <Pygi> spacey: ping?
[12:02] <spacey> pong
[12:02] <spacey> Pygi: :)
[12:02] <Pygi> spacey: perhaps we should make people "sign up" for the meeting?
[12:03] <spacey> mwah
[12:03] <spacey> we shoudl just ping some people who might be interested
[12:03] <spacey> its not needed to get a really big group
[12:04] <spacey> because then it will become slow
[12:04] <Pygi> just a few people who are willing to work, yes, I know
[12:04] <spacey> janew will be there
[12:04] <spacey> i hope ogra as well
[12:04] <spacey> me :P
[12:05] <Pygi> o joy, that's three people ;)
[12:05] <spacey> maybe my colleague
[12:05] <spacey> :P
[12:06] <Burgundavia> meeting?
[12:06] <Pygi> Burgundavia: yup, about the "How to cook Edubuntu"
[12:06] <Burgundavia> ah
[12:06] <spacey> Burgundavia: you can join in?
[12:06] <spacey> your a real doccie
[12:07] <spacey> uh
[12:07] <Pygi> do not insult the book Burgundavia ;)
[12:07] <spacey> the book?
[12:08] <Pygi> spacey: well, the "How to cook Edubuntu" thingy ^_^
[12:08] <spacey> ah
[12:08] <spacey> :>
[12:09] <Pygi> bah ;)
[12:10] <Burgundavia> spacey: it is 2am here. I am tired and somewhat drunk. :)
[12:10] <Burgundavia> I think I am going to sleep
[12:10] <Pygi> night burgundavia
[12:11] <Pygi> spacey: does ogra want to ship it as package or?
[12:11] <spacey> i think that was his intention
[12:12] <spacey> but not sure
[12:12] <spacey> i'll bring it up during the meeting
[12:12] <Pygi> hm, k, we'll see on the meeting
[12:12] <spacey> if so we should have to book finished evenearlier
[12:12] <spacey> :P
[12:12] <Pygi> yes, like 1 month before dapper ;)
[12:12] <Pygi> and it would really be a joy if only me and you will be writing ;)
[12:17] <spacey> yeah
[12:17] <spacey> joy as in long nights :)
[12:21] <spacey> hmm
[12:21] <spacey> long nights can be interperated in different ways :P
[12:21] <spacey> anyway the crappy one :P
[02:44] <drbreen> hallo
[03:01] <highvoltage> hi
[03:16] <Pygi> spacey, around?
[03:16] <spacey> yes'
[03:17] <spacey> whats up Pygi
[03:19] <Pygi> I'm interested if perhaps we could postpone the meeting ...
[03:19] <Pygi> for let's say 16:00 UTC?
[03:20] <spacey> Pygi: its fine with me
[03:20] <spacey> but
[03:20] <spacey> check janew about that
[03:20] <Pygi> bah, she's never here :-/
[03:20] <spacey> mail :)
[03:20] <spacey> and its weekend
[03:20] <spacey> give her a break :P
[03:20] <Pygi> JaneW:  ping ^_^
[03:21] <spacey> its sunday :P
[03:21] <Pygi> bah, yes I know ^_^
[03:21] <spacey> not everyone is crazy enough to work in the weekend (like us ;))
[03:21] <Pygi> lol ^_^
[03:22] <ogra> ;)
[03:22] <Pygi> o  ogra, hello ;)
[03:22] <ogra> hey
[03:22] <Pygi> now to bug you about the book thingy ;)
[03:22] <Pygi> do you want to ship the "How to cook Edubuntu" as a package?
[03:22] <spacey> ogra: you will attend the edubuntu cookbook meeting?
[03:22] <ogra> yes to both
[03:22] <Pygi> spacey: s/edubuntu cookbook/how to cook edubuntu
[03:22] <Pygi> ogra: k, just to know...we need to finish book earlier then
[03:22] <ogra> not sure about a separate package, but it should be in edubuntu-docs
[03:23] <spacey> Pygi: we'll see where it ends up
[03:23] <ogra> (either as a depending package or included)
[03:23] <spacey> Pygi: we can replace the current one
[03:23] <spacey> later on
[03:23] <highvoltage> hi everyone, when is the edubuntu cookbook meeting?
[03:23] <spacey> highvoltage: thursday
[03:23] <Pygi> highvoltage: currently, thursday, 12:00 UTC
[03:24] <Pygi> but that might change ;)
[03:24] <spacey> Pygi can only attend if we postpone it a bit
[03:24] <ogra> i'm fine with that ...
[03:24] <Pygi> ogra: does 16:00 UTC suit you?
[03:24] <ogra> best is mail the listi think 
[03:24] <ogra> sure, suits me
[03:25] <ogra> s7is/is to/
[03:25] <Pygi> ogra: k, great, I'll talk to Jane ;)
[03:25] <spacey> janew should be there
[03:27] <spacey> highvoltage: will you attend?
[03:28] <Pygi> k, I just bothered Jane with a mail ^_^
[03:31] <Pygi> k, spacey, ogra, talk to you later ;)
[03:31] <ogra> ciao
[04:16] <drbreen> hello again
[04:19] <drbreen> i have a problem: one ltsp client (with d-link dfe-530tx rev-c1) starts with the fitting bootfloppy but it hangs and says
[04:19] <drbreen> "can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf"
[04:20] <drbreen> and "kernal panic not syncing:attempted to kill init"
[04:20] <drbreen> other clients (with different nw cards) get through
[04:40] <highvoltage> spacey: yes (sorry, been in and out)
[04:59] <spacey> highvoltage: at both times?
[05:07] <highvoltage> both times?
[05:38] <spacey> highvoltage: 12utc or 16utc
[05:39] <spacey> pygi suggested to have it at 16utc so he could attend
[06:23] <flint> ogra, ping
[06:24] <highvoltage> hi flint, how are you doing?
[06:26] <flint> highvoltage, Johnathan, I am very happy, I just tested this silly gin script on a real honest to god edubuntu terminal and it worked very well.  The gin script is something I "gin"ed up for elkners bilingual classes over at the Arlandria TWSC.
[06:27] <flint> highvoltage, jonathan, I am so exited i spelled your name wrong sorry! :^(
[06:28] <flint> highvoltage, I actually thought the silly thing would be easy, it turned into 433 lines of bash... https://wiki.edubuntu.org/gin
[06:28] <highvoltage> hehe! completely inderstandable
[06:29] <flint> highvoltage, jonathan, note that you can download the script from docbox.  docbox.flint.com is available as a bzr pull site eh?
[06:29] <highvoltage> wow, that's cool!
[06:30] <highvoltage> ok. i haven't used bzr to download stuff before though, but i'll give it a shot!
[06:32] <flint> highvoltage, jonathan, this is high praise, thank you!  The important thing is not that it is pretty, it is that it works.  now I gotta get that Grawert guy to look it over and tell me how to make it better... 
[06:33] <highvoltage> yeah.
[06:33] <highvoltage> i remember one of the big criticisms for gnome from the skolelinux guys...
[06:34] <highvoltage> is that you can't switch languages as good as in KDE
[06:35] <highvoltage> ogra would probably take care of the pretty stuff by putting it into one of the edubuntu tools (not sure which would be the right one)
[06:39] <flint> highvoltage, keep in mind, this is merely a brassboard shell script, this needs to be prettyfied into python and given a gui.
[06:39] <highvoltage> flint: ok.
[06:41] <flint> highvoltage, eh the next project is going to be called rump...
[06:41] <flint> Rump Manual Page
[06:41] <flint> Realtime 
[06:41] <flint> Unix 
[06:41] <flint> Mounting 
[06:41] <flint> Program
[06:42] <flint> I am annoyed that you cannot take mtab and magically convert it into fstab.  rump will do this sometime in the future...
[06:48] <flint> highvoltage, what do you think?
[06:48] <flint> highvoltage, my great nightmare is re-developing something that already exists...
[06:56] <highvoltage> flint: i think that the front-end won't be too difficult
[06:56] <highvoltage> flint: since it can tie in with existing control-panel-like software that ogra is working on
[06:57] <flint> highvoltage, that jonathan is why i really wanted to keep it simple, so that it would be included in a more sophisticated tool, say as a call if necessary... but as a working document basicall in the tradition of rainforestpuppy....
[07:00] <highvoltage> :)
[08:32] <flint> sksk