[12:05] <duncan_nz> oh, for crying out loud. I can dance naked if you want just be specific about what you would like me to do. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiTeam doesn't explain.
[12:05] <LaserJock> duncan_nz: go the the wikiteam LP page and click on "Join Team"
[12:05] <LaserJock> it's not hard ;-)
[12:06] <duncan_nz> no it's not, but everywhere I look is clutter sorrounding the thing I'm looking for...
[12:07] <duncan_nz> LaserJock: I'm now officially pending. Thanks for putting up with my whinging.
[12:07] <LaserJock> yeah, LP takes a little getting used to
[12:07] <Madpilot> yeah, LP has a bit of UI trouble sometimes
[12:08] <LaserJock> they have really improved some UI stuff for devs recently. I know they're working hard on it
[12:08] <duncan_nz> Burgundavia: is that you editing the WikiTeam page? Thanks.
[12:08] <Madpilot> compared to Bugzilla, LP's bug reporting setup is brilliant (but stock Bugzilla is a giant mess, so any improvement would be dramatic...)
[12:09] <Madpilot> anyway, must go out. See you all in a bit.
[12:09] <duncan_nz> I've got to go too, see you all another time.
[12:10] <Burgundavia> yep
[12:10] <nalioth> well, what a meeting
[12:11] <LaserJock> for sure ;-)
[12:13] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/+bug/36502 <-- when do you get this error?
[12:13] <Burgundavia> sighs, even
[12:13] <nalioth> ok, my unofficial ubuntu documentariat intrest has been sated
[12:13] <nalioth> see y'all later
[12:15] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: hmm, I don't really have access to inkscape at the moment
[12:15] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: I'm CLI only right now
[12:15] <LaserJock> well, that was an interesting meeting
[12:15] <LaserJock> Naaman didn't make is own meeting :(
[12:16] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: no, the error he got when he tried to get the build-deps
[12:16] <LaserJock> doh, didn't look close enough
[12:17] <Burgundavia> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Flight6_(alpha)_Here <- ahh, bloody digg
[12:18] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: that build-dep thing looks like he wasn't using sudo or he was using another package manager (which has the apt lock)
[12:18] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: works fine for me here
[12:18] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: that is what I thought
[12:22] <LaserJock> I'm really starting to think that moving to a MediaWiki on doc.ubuntu.com would be the way to go
[12:23] <Burgundavia> heh
[12:23] <Burgundavia> it would be help.ubuntu.com
[12:23] <LaserJock> well, whatever ;-)
[12:26] <Burgundavia> ah, that is why 3D stuff sucks balls. Currently I do not have direct rendering enabled
[12:29] <Burgundavia> brb
[12:36] <Burgundavia> ok, that is too odd
[12:36] <Burgundavia> ctrl-alt-bksp restarted my machine and my clock
[12:37] <LaserJock> hmm, that isn't expected behavior
[12:38] <Burgundavia> no
[12:41] <Burgundavia> ok, lets see if I can replicate that
[12:55] <Burgundavia> ok, can't replicate it
[12:57] <LaserJock> that is weird but encouraging
[12:58] <Burgundavia> I tried just restarting, then changing my driver back to vesa and restarting. Nothing
[03:39] <Madpilot> hi
[03:40] <LaserJock> hi Gaerik 
[03:40] <Gaerik> I don't want to be offtopic and bother anyone but I was trying to use the Disks Manager to format a partition and was having trouble.  When I tried to use the Helpfiles, they weren't there, so I figured I'd try to find help on IRC.
[03:41] <Gaerik> I've had Ubuntu for all of 2 days and really like it at this point but I've got 18GB of hd space I need formatted and can't do it. :-)
[03:42] <Madpilot> Gaerik, for general help, #ubuntu is your best bet
[03:43] <Gaerik> Okay...  I popped in there but with 650 people it was hard to find help.  Is there a protocol for getting help there or is is just throw the question out and see if someone bites?
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gaerik: throuw out the question, just don't start with "i have a question"
[03:44] <Gaerik> Heh... okay.  Thanks.  I'm new but I'll figure it out. 
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[03:53] <LaserJock> anybody here deployed a wiki before?
[04:16] <trappist> only if trac counts
[04:47] <LaserJock> hi mdke 
[05:11] <trappist> There's something wrong with this sentence but I'm not familiar enough with bind to correct it: "the zone sections defines a master server, and it is stored in a file mentioned against file tag."
[05:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> where can i ask for help with wiki syntax? i tried using [br]  to start new lines, but it always displays "[br] " rather then make the line break
[05:59] <trappist> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnFormatting
[05:59] <trappist> I think it's [[BR] ] 
[06:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks. I'll try it out
[06:11] <LaserJock> hi robotgeek 
[06:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> trappist: that fixed me up. thanks
[06:11] <trappist> cool.
[06:55] <robotgeek> hey LaserJock 
[06:55] <robotgeek> sorry, got distracted away from computer :)
[07:25] <Madpilot> trappist, for your "zone sections" line - shouldn't it be "the zone sections define..." rather than "defines"?
[08:16] <trappist> Madpilot: yeah, now that you mention it, but I was actually asking about the 2nd part of the sentence
[08:17] <Madpilot> trappist, the "file tag" part? I know zip about bind, was just wondering about the grammar...
[08:17] <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia 
[08:17] <Burgundavia> salut Madpilot
[08:17] <Burgundavia> thanks for dinner and beer
[08:29] <trappist> Madpilot: I mean "stored in a file mentioned against a file tag".  I dunno what it's supposed to mean, but I suspect it's not quite right.
[08:30] <Madpilot> I've got no idea what it's supposed to mean either - but you're right, it doesn't seem to make sense...
[08:45] <LaserJock> hmm, yelp isn't working anymore
[09:01] <Madpilot> hi robitaille 
[09:06] <robitaille> Hi Madpilot 
[09:26] <LaserJock> is the yelp thing just me?
[09:30] <Madpilot> I don't run Dapper - but have you checked LP's bug reports?
[09:35] <LaserJock> hmm, not sure
[09:36] <robitaille> the yelp thing?
[09:37] <LaserJock> yeah, it crashes
[09:38] <robitaille> humm...it doesn't crash for me, but no documents are displayed...and I have some I/O warning in the terminal
[09:38] <robitaille> /var/log/scrollkeeper.log:  Permission denied
[09:39] <LaserJock> hmm, I'm not getting that exactly
[09:40] <robitaille> the only thing I see in the yelp window is "Help Topics"; nothing else
[09:58] <LaserJock> mine just opens up and then crashes
[09:58] <LaserJock> I used to have that error but haven't had your's for a while
[10:14] <LaserJock> hmm, do you think it would be ok to ship a few tarballs with the docs?
[10:15] <LaserJock> actually maybe it would be better to just give a wget command
[10:15] <Madpilot> what for?
[10:19] <robitaille> LaserJock:  malone 34384    is that your problem?
[10:20] <LaserJock> Madpilot: for the packaging guide we are using a few examples but I'm not sure how permanent they are
[10:21] <LaserJock> robitaille: I'm not sure, I definately get terminal output
[10:24] <robitaille> and I seem to have found my problem:  #27844
[11:01] <joachim-n> hi
[11:02] <Madpilot> hi
[11:02] <joachim-n> do you know if the 2.14.1 version of the gnome docs will go into Dapper?
[11:04] <Burgundavia> joachim-n: I believe so
[11:05] <Burgundavia> 2.14.1 is going into dapper in general
[11:05] <Madpilot> we do ship the upstream docs, so the gnome docs will be in Dapper somewhere
[11:06] <joachim-n> cool
[11:06] <joachim-n> I'm thinking about adding a general 'Contributing to GNOME' section to the GNOME User Guide
[11:07] <Madpilot> you'd want to talk to Gnome's own docteam about that, I guess - we're just Ubuntu's doc monkeys
[11:07] <joachim-n> well, me and a handful of others
[11:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol joachim-n. "i am the docteam" <grin>
[11:23] <joachim-n> well... it feels that way sometimes :(
[11:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> :S they know (i just lurk and make up numbers)
[11:23] <joachim-n> I think I meant to type 'on' too :)
[11:24] <joachim-n> anyway, I can't poach any of you lot, that wouldn't be nice
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[11:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> dunno, you could poach the idlers ;)
[11:53] <joachim-n> hi
[11:54] <dsas> judge dredd: "I am the law", joachim-n: "I am the docteam" 
[11:57] <joachim-n> not quite as glamorous though
[12:00] <dsas> it's a bit safer mind.