=== kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@81.193.81.202] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] hi Se7h [12:25] hey LaserJock [12:25] got my xgl running here [12:31] btw LaserJock, I've uploaded the python lib i was workin on [12:31] good [12:32] how much time takes to get a review on whats uploaded? [12:37] well, depends on how much you bug MOTUs ;-) [12:37] jeje [12:39] i ask this cus python-pymedia is still as 'new' === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] Se7h: well, it wouldn't go in Dapper [12:42] LaserJock no? why not? [12:43] Se7h: we are past Feature Freeze [12:43] oh wait, it is just an update right? [12:44] no, the spe was an update, this is a first release [12:44] oh, ok [12:45] so yeah, it would take an exception to get it in dapper [12:45] at this point in the release we are just trying to fix bugs, etc. [12:45] hmm ok [12:46] i dunno if you know it, but since alot a people, including the developer was asking me to add it.. [12:46] pymedia is a well made multimedia python lib [12:48] I'm not sure what the policy is right now about it new packages [12:49] why did you make it native package (no .orig.tar.gz)? === nictuku [n=yves@unaffiliated/nictuku] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Fui] [12:50] the main dev has its orig source tarball yea [12:51] if thats what u'r asking === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] remove it [12:52] Se7h: I'm saying that you probably want to make a non-native package [12:52] remove it, package a new source tarball [12:52] err, create a new source tarball [12:53] Se7h: you want the .orig.tar.gz that is the same as the one you download [12:53] then add it back in, so it becomes a non-native package and has a proper diff and everything [12:53] nevermind... === Amaranth goes back to coding [12:53] yeah, what Amaranth said ;-) [01:01] Oy.. [01:01] I hate installing the GTK2 libs..I keep forgetting what the package is lol === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@pD9E29C59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] siretart: i object in using internal faad for mplayer! we should better patch the external one with all this bugfixes... [01:24] whee time to go sketchy [01:24] rebuilding Sid libs for dapper [01:25] can I request a module for someone to package? [01:28] jabra: what is it? === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] jabra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates [01:29] it is nmap::parser === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] if anyone cares..the latest libneon from Sid builds and installs fine on Dapper [01:34] Kyral: so what? :) [01:34] just lettin' ya know [01:34] Sid version is higher than Dapper version [01:36] Kyral: many of the latest sid packages build fine and install fine on dapper an have a newer version... but that doesn't mean they're better or more bugfree... but if you feel that we should get the latest version please file a uvf exception bugreport and ask for an exception with an explanation why you want it [01:36] I'll see if it works fine when this thing I'm compiling is done :P [01:37] which is BMPx if you are curious [01:37] what besides subversion uses libneon? [01:37] BMPx :P [01:37] oh okay [01:37] minghua: gst-plugins-bad ;) [01:37] slomo: Hmm... didn't know that [01:37] and rumor has it that BMPx is soon to be in Sid [01:39] Kyral: it must go through NEW before... which could take ages... but do the bmpx guys use gstreamer now? or their own media framework? [01:39] GStreamer [01:39] it requires the -base, -good, -bad, and -ugly packs [01:40] Kyral: it "requires" -bad? [01:40] well they say for "Maximum playibitity" [01:40] and yes I know I misspelled that like CRAZY [01:40] yes, that's true for now unfortunately :/ -bad has some important things :) [01:42] http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/Downloads [01:42] look at the Debian section [01:43] ok... hm, what's the difference between bmp and bmpx? [01:43] we now have at least 4 "xmms" projects... xmms, xmms2, bmp and bmpx ;) [01:44] I thought bmpx was a rewrite [01:44] It seems BMPx only uses like 3% of XMMS code [01:45] hm, so it's a winamp-interface-player using gst? [01:47] meh no like me [01:47] Unstable it is === minghua hates Microsoft-JVM-only java applets [01:51] yanno [01:51] why mess with perfection *apt-get install beep-media-player* [01:53] and the original BMP is now called "Audacious" === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] oy,,,and now I'm jumping between Mail Clients like crazy [01:59] banshee > * [03:00] Amaranth: it seemed like banshee had problems [03:00] as in like "skipping" [03:00] err [03:00] nothing here [03:00] what are your specs? [03:00] I dunno [03:00] system? [03:01] I dumped them in #uf [03:03] ello [03:06] Kyral: I've only got a 1.42Ghz G4 so banshee wasn't skipping because your computer is too slow. :) [03:06] Kyral: does rhythmbox skip on the same songs? [03:07] Amaranth: no... === Kyral switches back to Thunderbird === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] Kyral: When was the last time you tried banshee? [03:08] Maybe it was a fluke or has already been fixed [03:11] Sylpheed is nice...but it always "sorts and processes" [03:12] or is that a property of the MailDir format? === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-149-252.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tdjb [n=tdjb@216.222.48.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SaLo^Karton [n=SaLoMoN@p54A8B28A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] Sorry if that sounds silly, but where are the buildd logs?? [04:16] Erlang: here? http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html [04:17] there could be some somewhere on launchpad too [04:17] There are not linked where I've found them on launchpad. [04:17] where I found to supposed link to it I mean... [04:18] thank you === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port162-43.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] Erlang: each source package has a link [04:24] the ~lamont link is obsoleted because of soyuz [04:27] crimsun: do you happen to still have wesnoth 1.0.2-1ubuntu1 source package around? :-) [04:28] crimsun: it's 'not available'. [04:28] https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/150185 [04:30] Erlang: does it introduce new binary packages? (i.e., NEW) [04:30] minghua: I might, but I can't check atm because my amd64 pbuilder is offline [04:31] It introduces the binary package yudit 2.7.8-1... i guess [04:31] crimsun: or if you still remember what "Restore scenario-test.cfg for -t switch." is about [04:32] basically I am working on reverting wesnoth from 1.1 to 1.0.2 [04:32] crimsun: looking at other changelogs it seems to be bug #1213 [04:32] Malone bug 1213 in wesnoth "wesnoth option -t does not work (error: "Unknown scenario: 'test'")" [Minor,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1213 [04:33] minghua: I believe bmonty worked his magic for that one [04:34] crimsun: thank, I'll ask him then [04:35] I wonder if I should keep all the changelogs for 1.1 if I revert to 1.0.2 [04:36] maybe I should [04:37] yes === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-66-137.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.198] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@81.193.81.202] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] cripes, it happened before [05:07] afternoon === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] hi ajmitch [05:09] hey whiprush, how's it going? [05:09] good, yourself? [05:09] alright [05:10] ah my karma just felt [05:11] ajmitch: hey has anyone heard form \sh lately? [05:11] I am concerned [05:11] nope, not that I know of [05:11] :-/ [05:12] gn8 === minghua hopes \sh is okay === ajmitch also [05:30] bug 36671 [05:30] Malone bug 36671 in xchat "no german language for xchat" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/36671 === minghua wonders if that applys to all languages [05:31] seems yes - Debian's xchat package doesn't have any .mo file === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] is there any documentation on how to use debdiff? I've been using ye olde diff to attach patches to bugs, and I know it's not ideal, but I can't seem to find a good debdiff doc. [05:57] man debdiff ;-) [05:58] but basically "debdiff package1.dsc package2.dsc" for source packages [05:58] yeah that says it diffs between .debs and .udebs, and I don't have one of those [05:58] ah! [05:58] that's what I was looking for. thanks! [05:58] trappist: np [05:59] I need to know how to get rid of characters from a different encoding or something [06:00] i've got a bunch of where I should have a space [06:00] easy if you know which charset they are in... [06:01] actually sounds a little like chinese... [06:01] it's great fun trying to match those with regular expressions [06:02] hmm, if I open it in emacs it gives \302\240 [06:02] Nah. In zh_CN wide space is A1A1, zh_TW A140 [06:03] acording to pine it is ANSI_X3.4-1968 [06:03] 0xC2 == 0302, so that sounds right [06:05] anybody know what I can do with it? [06:06] you know what? C2A0 is non-breaking space in UTF-8 [06:06] hmm [06:06] LaserJock: so get a decent text viewer :-) [06:06] I got the file in an email so I wonder if it was UTF-8 but got sent as something else [06:07] LaserJock: so I do like, apt-get source packagename, put those files into a directory, do it again into another directory, do my editing on one of them and debdiff from a parent directory? [06:07] sure [06:07] ok [06:07] you can do it all in the same directory though [06:07] how [06:08] apt-get source will just clobber what I've already got, right? [06:08] you don't need to apt-get twice === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] well if you bump the version or something then you when you rebuild the source package it will have a different name [06:08] minghua: that's encouraging, since I'm working with kdebase [06:08] just change the version in debian/changelog and you'll get a different .diff.gz/.dsc, then debdiff [06:09] minghua: so I don't need two copies of the source to make a debdiff (the original and my changes)? [06:09] trappist: definitely not, you just need two .dsc/.diff.gz [06:10] trappist: yes but the source packages is the .diff.gz .dsc and .orig.tar.gz files [06:10] (I don't know if debdiff will untar them when it's run, though...) [06:10] trappist: debdiff will extract the source packages to /tmp [06:10] so you'll never see it ;-) [06:11] ok so correct me if I'm wrong here: apt-get source packagename. edit my files, including the changelog. copy(?!) the .dsc and the .diff.gz and run debdiff? [06:11] s/copy(?!)/build new source package/ [06:12] oh, this is starting to make sense - how to do that [06:12] debuild -S is the easiest [06:12] ok cool [06:12] in the source directory [06:13] and when I edit the changelog, I do it as though I expect it to be patched as-is, incrementing build numbers and such? [06:14] trappist: kinda depends on what your doing [06:14] trappist: what are you trying to do? [06:14] just fixing a doc problem in kmenuedit [06:15] trappist: what is the current version? [06:15] 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu14 === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] so do 3.5.1-0ubuntu15 [06:16] yeah that's what I had [06:17] i hope gaim2 to be that good for the so long delay on the release [06:19] LaserJock is there any list to check the needing-fix programs on the repo ? [06:19] Se7h: I think that is called Malone ;-) [06:20] malone? :o [06:20] there is also an unmet dep list somewhere on revu [06:22] tauware? [06:23] yeah, just a sec [06:23] Se7h: http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/unmet/dapper-unmet.txt [06:24] wow debuild is way better than dpkg-buildpackage [06:25] which apparently requires sudo and doesn't want to sign the package [06:27] debuild is a wrapper around dpkg-buildpackage but it's what I use [06:27] LaserJock those are dep that didn't reach universe? [06:28] Se7h: they are packages that aren't installable because of a dep problem of some kind. Sometimes the deps have had a name change or something like that [06:28] hmm... I've never used debuild before [06:28] LaserJock thats the thing i dont get. Why do name changes. There should be a default for each === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] minghua its good alright :) [06:31] one I saw today was a dep on libpango10-0 where we now have libpango12-0 [06:31] err libpng [06:32] Se7h: we also had to do name changes for cxx transition [06:33] trappist: you can also do pdebuild if you want to also build the binary package. it is debuild+pbuilder [06:34] okay, this wesnoth seems to working [06:34] hmm, I still don't know what to do with this file :( === minghua prepares to do his first upload :-) [06:34] yeah! [06:38] LaserJock what file? [06:38] I've got a file that has some different encoding or something [06:39] so it's full of [06:40] but I'm not sure what the regexp would be to get rid of them :/ [06:45] those '' mean something? or are just text editor codes? [06:46] heres another app that should go into univ. [06:47] 'pac - perl audio converter' [06:47] Se7h: no they are spaces [06:48] LaserJock: the file doesn't show correctly in gedit (using UTF-8 encoding, that is)? [06:49] I don't know about gedit but it doesn in vim or emacs [06:49] LaserJock something like regrem = re.compile("" (python) [06:49] LaserJock: try gedit ;-) [06:51] a simple python script would do the job [06:51] :p [06:52] Se7h: it would huh? [06:52] LaserJock: I believe Se7h (not that I can write such a python script) :-) === Erlang goes bug hunting. [06:53] LaserJock yes [06:53] minghua: dang, gedit worked fine [06:53] yay \o/ [06:54] hehe [06:54] but I tried to save it as something else but it still look weird in emacs and vim :/ [06:55] actually I am surprised that vim has problem with it [06:55] vim shows all encodings the text might have [06:55] LaserJock: when you open it in vim, what does ":set fileencoding" show? [06:56] vim is usually not very smart in automatically recognizing encodings [06:56] I suspect LaserJock's vim was using latin-1 [06:56] or something similar [06:57] hmm, doesn't say anything [06:57] Hmm, apparently 40M takes a while to upload from a DSL line [06:57] 40mb ? :o [06:57] but in gedit it says that the file is ASCII [06:58] LaserJock: try ":set fileencodings=utf-8", then use ":r file" to open it [06:58] well, gedit lied [06:59] eheh, i just remembered my weather report tool (python made) :) [07:02] hmm, nothing seems to work [07:02] poor LaserJock [07:03] LaserJock suck when that happens doesn' it? :> [07:03] this is so stupid [07:03] LaserJock: try iconv -f utf8 -t ascii file [07:03] LaserJock: maybe iconv will be smart enough to change the non-breaking spaces to ordinary ones === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:04] didnt gedit fixed it ? [07:04] no [07:04] [05:53:29] minghua: dang, gedit worked fine [07:04] o.0 [07:05] it views it fine [07:05] then copy paste the text [07:06] minghua: no go, "iconv: illegal input sequence at position 1995" when it hits the bad characters [07:07] LaserJock: yeah, bad luck, then [07:07] a bug that makes a package useless (SIGSEV at start) on an architecture is of what severity level? [07:07] LaserJock: go learn some python, perhaps? [07:07] :-P [07:07] :) [07:07] LaserJock want to send the file ? [07:09] "Accepted wesnoth 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (source)" Yay! [07:11] Package python2.3-celementtree version 1.0.2-2build1 has an unmet dep: [07:11] Depends: python2.3-elementtree [07:11] what the hell is this ? [07:11] a package depending on itself? [07:11] o.0 [07:11] ? [07:12] oh forget it [07:12] read it wonrg (im sleepy) [07:13] *wrong [07:13] yeah, both of those are needed for bzr and I made the same mistake [07:15] LaserJock want to send the file ? === tdjb [n=tdjb@216.222.48.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] LaserJock: the python-* mess is no surprise considering how many python2.3 packages have been stripped from main, with good reason [07:31] hmm, and I'm trying to add 2.3 to gausssum in Debian [07:34] can anybody answer my question above? [07:36] Erlang: in debian or in ubuntu? [07:36] Ubuntu === minghua isn't aware that ubuntu has the "bug severity" concept [07:37] "Critical, Major, Normal, Minor, Wishlist", that is. [07:37] I think it is for the devs === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:39] I have not yet read anywhere that severity should only be set by devs. [07:39] if we are talking about bug 3442, I don't think changing the severity has any effect [07:39] Malone bug 3442 in praat "hangs on startup" [Major,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3442 === monzie [n=manish@220.226.14.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] I've set 'Major' where a package becomes useless because of that bug. [07:41] but in praat's case, it's only on AMD64... that is why I asked. === tdjb [n=tdjb@216.222.48.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher_ [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Chris@hamlin-193-80.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Chris@hamlin-193-80.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zomb- [n=eb@x118.rhrk.uni-kl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tdjb [n=tdjb@216.222.48.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tdjb [n=tdjb@216.222.48.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-090-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] morning [10:19] 'morning [10:20] slomo_: I asked on malone for opinions for external faad. neither you nor crimsum answered. So lets revert that the next upload [10:20] hi crimsun! === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] hi all [10:20] siretart: err, I haven't been getting such e-mails... [10:20] (motu media, correct) [10:21] hi zak [10:22] heya crimsun [10:25] bug #34384 [10:25] Malone bug 34384 in yelp "Yelp crashes on starting" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34384 [10:25] bug #27844 [10:25] Malone bug 27844 in yelp "No help topics are displayed in yelp" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/27844 [10:25] crimsun: oh. interesting. do you receive motumedia mails at all? [10:25] siretart: nope [10:25] hm. I thought so. slomo told me the same.. interesting [10:26] I'll check why === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tdjb [n=tdjb@216.222.48.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-209-160.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth stops breaking things === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] hi people [11:06] heya phanatic [11:06] hey zakame [11:09] G'day zakame, phanatic [11:10] hello Yagisan [11:10] heya Yagisan [11:11] so what have we been up to today ? [11:12] crimsun: ah, I notice that you aren't subscribed at http://tauware.de/mailman/listinfo/motumedia at all === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] crimsun: that mailing list is the primary contact list for the motumedia launchpad team, every bug which the motumedia team is subscribed should send mails there [11:13] that would do it [11:13] anyone here still use breezy ? [11:14] if so could you see if you can reproduce https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/36616 [11:14] Malone bug 36616 in evolution "Repeated crashing on particular spam, if the preview window is open" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [11:15] I'd love to know I'm not the only one suffering. [11:16] siretart: done [11:16] should do it now. yes === verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E0099B.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === greenpenguin13 [n=joseph@user-1588.l4.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@78.Red-88-3-221.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === greenpenguin13-a is Away, Reason: ( cheese ) | Since: ( Sunday, March 26, 2006. 10:51:35 ) Xlack v2.1 [12:44] here too? ;) === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thierry [n=thierry@d83-179-159-177.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thierry [n=thierry@d83-179-159-177.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] hello [02:00] ajmitch: any updates on your selinux work ? [02:01] hi here [02:01] hey Toadstool [02:01] o/ jpatrick [02:02] bbl, have to have lunch === Yagisan sighs [02:16] siretart: i'll get the external faad fixed today (with a bit of luck :) ). i only don't want to use the internal one to prevent code duplication. we had enough problems with ffmpeg in the past, no need to get another one ;) [02:20] slomo_: right, good idea [02:25] o/ Tonio_ Toadstool jpatrick [02:25] hi zakame [02:25] hi zakame [02:26] hello zakame :) [02:27] siretart: btw, do you already have an idea why the media list doesn't like crimsun and me anymore? === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] 2006-03-26 14:38:50 1FNUWA-0008LF-99 <= motumedia-bounces@tauware.de H=vserver31.int-colo-nuernberg.priv (tauware.de) [192.168.77.131] U=list P=esmtp S=2489 id=20060326123805.6279.66152.malonedeb@gandwana.ubuntu.com [02:43] 2006-03-26 14:39:00 1FNUWA-0008LF-99 => crimsun@fungus.sh.nu R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=fungus.sh.nu [216.239.132.98] X=TLS-1.0:RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24 [02:43] 2006-03-26 14:39:06 1FNUWA-0008LF-99 => mail@slomosnail.de R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=mail.slomosnail.de [83.151.31.59] X=TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32 [02:43] slomo_: and I'll happily show you more logs [02:44] slomo_: the problem with crimsum was that he wasn't subscribed. For you I can only suspect spam filters [02:46] siretart: hm, i'll take a look at it later === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga_ [n=gauvain@84.5.32.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] siretart: hmm... there is actually nothing in the faad2 code in mplayer that could fix anything like this... and the url to the mplayer mailinglist contains a patch for a demuxer in mplayer... [03:00] slomo_: then lets switch to external faad2 code and hope the submitter doesn't notice :) [03:00] siretart: hehe... let me test some things before :) i'll switch back later [03:01] ok [03:02] siretart: hm and the mplayer people use a way older faad version than we use... [03:02] slomo_: could be a regression in the faad code then [03:02] siretart: i'm currently looking at the complete diff... could take some time :) (6000 lines) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] siretart: would really help to have a test video... === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] hi people [03:08] slomo_: do you really care that much about faad? ;) [03:09] siretart: i already spent hours on that thing... some more don't hurt now ;) and as more and more people get an ipod or use itunes aac becomes more important unfortunately :( [03:11] oh. right. didn't think about that [03:12] siretart: someone should convince steve jobs to switch to ogg vorbis ;) [03:13] slomo_: ogg doesn't provide digital restrictions managment. something apples seems to be proud of [03:13] and ppl keep on buying that crap :( === fredix [n=fredix@48.73.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] siretart: there is a drm implementation for ogg vorbis somewhere... but nobody uses it ;) [03:15] tell me why that doesn't surprise me.. === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] siretart: but i can confirm that with the internal faad one movie has sound... and with the external it doesn't === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-62-101.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] fellows, can you please check malone 35196 [03:54] Malone bug 35196 in eclipse libswt3.1-gtk-java "Rebuild against firefox" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35196 [03:54] I've attached a debdiff [04:03] zakame: do you want people to test build it? [04:03] bmonty: if they can, yes [04:04] zakame: ok [04:12] zakame: building now === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] bmonty: thanks [04:15] bmonty: It'll take a while though, 2h maybe :/ [04:16] siretart: and somehow the movie works with gstreamer :) so i guess something in mplayer is broken... [04:16] hi Gloubiboulga [04:16] hi phanatic :) [04:21] zakame: I got time :) [04:21] siretart: so we better leave it that way for now... faad is fine, mplayer is broken and only wants to decode that file with it's bundled version... [04:21] bmonty: rocking === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] siretart: i'm not in the media team anymore for some reason... and can't join because "Your subscription to this team is expired. You can't join this team." [04:45] wtf? [04:45] slomo_: I readded you [04:46] siretart: thanks :) [04:46] gnarf. I misclicked and approved xor81 as member [04:46] slomo_: have you heard about him? [04:47] no... write him a mail and ask who he is :) [04:47] gahh [04:48] slomo_: I made you and crimsun motumedia team administrators [04:52] siretart: thanks... i'm uploading avidemux now :) [04:54] slomo_: thanks. I didn't get to it for too long time :( === bddebian [n=bddebian@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] Heya folks [04:59] monring bddebian [04:59] er...morning [04:59] Heh, heya bmonty [04:59] heya bddebian [05:00] Hi zakame [05:08] gn8 all! :D [05:09] any reviewer available plz ? we have a few kde packages requiring revu to prepare for UVFe and main inclusion === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberserver [n=joao@bl6-24-188.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] Hi people. [05:47] Do you face problems browsing sites where there are dynamic layer menus and flash, where the menus are not shown because the get behind the flash movie? [05:47] For instance, http://www.asus.com.tw/index.aspx [05:48] I face this problem on lots of sites... with all browsers, konqueror, forefox, opera... === siretart suggests to uninstall the macromedia flash plugin [05:55] it doesn't work anyway on my amd64 workstation === mat__ [n=mat@212.194.45.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] siretart: But... Hmmm... That would solve the problem yes... but.. I would be left without flash then.. [06:03] siretart: Do you know if other flash plugins could work ? The free one instead of the macromedia? [06:05] What amazes me most is that firefox in win$$ does not show the same problem.. being both plugins (win and lin) from macromedia I would expect the same behaviour from both... [06:06] cyberserver: there is a free (as in speech) flash implementation, but I don't know how mature it is. [06:15] siretart: Yes, that was the one I was taling about... Last time I tryed it it was ... well... not mature... [06:15] jo [06:15] siretart: I asked the same question in #kubuntu ans someone sayd this was fixes in svn for firefox... I'm gonna have a look [06:16] this would be a firefox problem then [06:19] Hmmm.. I'm looking... but ... maybe an workaround for the flash problem? [06:20] This cant be a firefox problem as I used opera, firefox, konq and galeon... all showed the same behaviour [06:20] siretart: oops, sorry: they said "in svn for konqueror", not for firefox :-p === bmontgom_ [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:40] compiling zakame's eclipse package made my other computer unusable :( === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-66-137.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port162-43.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@pD950B79F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=lionel@st-209-250.student.fundp.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yves [n=yves@unaffiliated/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lucas [n=lucas@d83-179-21-13.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [n=sz@p5089FF54.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] what's the current status of uploading new packages? [09:24] Riddell: NEW new or sync new? [09:24] NEW new [09:24] I think its working === jabra [n=jabra@polish.ccs.neu.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:25] so we can just upload after revu? no UVF or whatever needed? [09:25] oh, no [09:25] damn [09:25] We are still in FeatureFreeeze [09:26] you'd have to get an exception [09:27] this could take a while [09:28] I think mdz does the exceptions [09:28] if it's a totally new package, you can just upload it. [09:28] Mithrandir: ah good, that's what I wanted to hear :) [09:28] (as long as you don't need new versions of packages already in the archive, naturally) [09:28] Mithrandir: Kerry http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2198 [09:29] Mithrandir: what about Feature Freeze? [09:29] so I can just dput this? [09:30] jpatrick: once you're got two advocated revu's [09:31] LaserJock: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-March/005107.html [09:33] Mithrandir: hmm, interesting. I wish these things were a little bit more clear [09:34] Mithrandir: we had the understanding that FeatureFreeze needed an exception === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] Riddell: revu is imo a platform to show/present packages. [09:46] Riddell: NEW packages in universe are generally accepted, IIRC. I think mdz said something like that somewhere === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:52] siretart: if you look at the link I pasted, it's said mail from mdz. :-P [09:53] Mithrandir: Oh, I'm sorry, your right [09:53] I should perhaps deactivate the hilight on 'revu'... === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] heh :-) [09:54] is there an appropriate way to get some visibility for a bug where only the reporter and "ubuntu-bugs" are subscribed? [09:55] the package maintainer is a @debian.org so I dunno if anybody's paying attention to it [09:55] btw, could someone please review my nwu packages? [09:55] 2182 === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:57] trappist: just try it :) [09:57] siretart: try what? [09:57] oh the email address [09:57] ? [09:58] trappist: just for fun, which bug it is? [09:58] jo [09:58] Erlang: 30992 [09:58] Ubugtu, bug #30992 [09:58] Malone bug 30992 in iptables "no ip6 modules" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30992 === Natja [n=lionel@st-209-250.student.fundp.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@CBL217-132-130-245.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@CBL217-132-130-245.bb.netvision.net.il] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:17] siretart: hi and yes it looks like ipmasq is a debian native package :/ i didn't know there's no need for an UVF exception for that kind of packages... [11:17] Toadstool: it is currently [11:17] Toadstool: this was meant as a question to the other members of the uvf team [11:18] ah ok [11:20] hi [11:20] hi ajmitch_ [11:20] oops not the good ajmitch :) [11:20] no, it's his evil twin [11:20] :) === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fatal_ [i=gem@gamezone.fjortis.info] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === redguy [n=mati@acm195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] good night everybody