[12:25] <LaserJock> hi Se7h
[12:25] <Se7h> hey LaserJock
[12:25] <Se7h> got my xgl running here
[12:31] <Se7h> btw LaserJock, I've uploaded the python lib i was workin on
[12:31] <LaserJock> good
[12:32] <Se7h> how much time takes to get a review on whats uploaded?
[12:37] <LaserJock> well, depends on how much you bug MOTUs ;-)
[12:37] <Se7h> jeje
[12:39] <Se7h> i ask this cus python-pymedia is still as 'new'
[12:41] <LaserJock> Se7h: well, it wouldn't go in Dapper
[12:42] <Se7h> LaserJock no? why not?
[12:43] <LaserJock> Se7h: we are past Feature Freeze
[12:43] <LaserJock> oh wait, it is just an update right?
[12:44] <Se7h> no, the spe was an update, this is a first release
[12:44] <LaserJock> oh, ok
[12:45] <LaserJock> so yeah, it would take an exception to get it in dapper
[12:45] <LaserJock> at this point in the release we are just trying to fix bugs, etc.
[12:45] <Se7h> hmm ok
[12:46] <Se7h> i dunno if you know it, but since alot a people, including the developer was asking me to add it..
[12:46] <Se7h> pymedia is a well made multimedia python lib
[12:48] <LaserJock> I'm not sure what the policy is right now about it new packages
[12:49] <LaserJock> why did you make it  native package (no .orig.tar.gz)?
[12:50] <Se7h> the main dev has its orig source tarball yea
[12:51] <Se7h> if thats what u'r asking
[12:52] <Amaranth> remove it
[12:52] <LaserJock> Se7h: I'm saying that you probably want to make a non-native package
[12:52] <Amaranth> remove it, package a new source tarball
[12:52] <Amaranth> err, create a new source tarball
[12:53] <LaserJock> Se7h: you want the .orig.tar.gz that is the same as the one you download
[12:53] <Amaranth> then add it back in, so it becomes a non-native package and has a proper diff and everything
[12:53] <Amaranth> nevermind...
[12:53] <LaserJock> yeah, what Amaranth said ;-)
[01:01] <Kyral> Oy..
[01:01] <Kyral> I hate installing the GTK2 libs..I keep forgetting what the package is lol
[01:24] <slomo> siretart: i object in using internal faad for mplayer! we should better patch the external one with all this bugfixes...
[01:24] <Kyral> whee time to go sketchy
[01:24] <Kyral> rebuilding Sid libs for dapper
[01:25] <jabra> can I request a module for someone to package?
[01:28] <kelmo> jabra: what is it?
[01:29] <minghua> jabra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[01:29] <jabra> it is nmap::parser
[01:32] <Kyral> if anyone cares..the latest libneon from Sid builds and installs fine on Dapper
[01:34] <slomo> Kyral: so what? :)
[01:34] <Kyral> just lettin' ya know
[01:34] <Kyral> Sid version is higher than Dapper version
[01:36] <slomo> Kyral: many of the latest sid packages build fine and install fine on dapper an have a newer version... but that doesn't mean they're better or more bugfree... but if you feel that we should get the latest version please file a uvf exception bugreport and ask for an exception with an explanation why you want it
[01:36] <Kyral> I'll see if it works fine when this thing I'm compiling is done :P
[01:37] <Kyral> which is BMPx if you are curious
[01:37] <minghua> what besides subversion uses libneon?
[01:37] <Kyral> BMPx :P
[01:37] <minghua> oh okay
[01:37] <slomo> minghua: gst-plugins-bad ;)
[01:37] <minghua> slomo: Hmm... didn't know that
[01:37] <Kyral> and rumor has it that BMPx is soon to be in Sid
[01:39] <slomo> Kyral: it must go through NEW before... which could take ages... but do the bmpx guys use gstreamer now? or their own media framework?
[01:39] <Kyral> GStreamer
[01:39] <Kyral> it requires the -base, -good, -bad, and -ugly packs
[01:40] <slomo> Kyral: it "requires" -bad?
[01:40] <Kyral> well they say for "Maximum playibitity"
[01:40] <Kyral> and yes I know I misspelled that like CRAZY
[01:40] <slomo> yes, that's true for now unfortunately :/ -bad has some important things :)
[01:42] <Kyral> http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/Downloads
[01:42] <Kyral> look at the Debian section
[01:43] <slomo> ok... hm, what's the difference between bmp and bmpx?
[01:43] <slomo> we now have at least 4 "xmms" projects... xmms, xmms2, bmp and bmpx ;)
[01:44] <LaserJock> I thought bmpx was a rewrite
[01:44] <Kyral> It seems BMPx only uses like 3% of XMMS code
[01:45] <slomo> hm, so it's a winamp-interface-player using gst?
[01:47] <Kyral> meh no like me
[01:47] <Kyral> Unstable it is
[01:51] <Kyral> yanno
[01:51] <Kyral> why mess with perfection *apt-get install beep-media-player*
[01:53] <Kyral> and the original BMP is now called "Audacious"
[01:59] <Kyral> oy,,,and now I'm jumping between Mail Clients like crazy
[01:59] <Amaranth> banshee > *
[03:00] <Kyral> Amaranth: it seemed like banshee had problems
[03:00] <Kyral> as in like "skipping"
[03:00] <Amaranth> err
[03:00] <Amaranth> nothing here
[03:00] <Amaranth> what are your specs?
[03:00] <Kyral> I dunno
[03:00] <Kyral> system?
[03:01] <Kyral> I dumped them in #uf
[03:03] <chillywilly> ello
[03:06] <Amaranth> Kyral: I've only got a 1.42Ghz G4 so banshee wasn't skipping because your computer is too slow. :)
[03:06] <Amaranth> Kyral: does rhythmbox skip on the same songs?
[03:07] <Kyral> Amaranth: no...
[03:08] <Amaranth> Kyral: When was the last time you tried banshee?
[03:08] <Amaranth> Maybe it was a fluke or has already been fixed
[03:11] <Kyral> Sylpheed is nice...but it always "sorts and processes"
[03:12] <Kyral> or is that a property of the MailDir format?
[04:15] <Erlang> Sorry if that sounds silly, but where are the buildd logs??
[04:16] <Hobbsee> Erlang: here?  http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html
[04:17] <Hobbsee> there could be some somewhere on launchpad too
[04:17] <Erlang> There are not linked where I've found them on launchpad.
[04:17] <Erlang> where I found to supposed link to it I mean...
[04:18] <Erlang> thank you
[04:24] <crimsun> Erlang: each source package has a link
[04:24] <crimsun> the ~lamont link is obsoleted because of soyuz
[04:27] <minghua> crimsun: do you happen to still have wesnoth 1.0.2-1ubuntu1 source package around? :-)
[04:28] <Erlang> crimsun: it's 'not available'.
[04:28] <Erlang> https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/150185
[04:30] <crimsun> Erlang: does it introduce new binary packages? (i.e., NEW)
[04:30] <crimsun> minghua: I might, but I can't check atm because my amd64 pbuilder is offline
[04:31] <Erlang> It introduces the binary package yudit 2.7.8-1... i guess
[04:31] <minghua> crimsun: or if you still remember what "Restore scenario-test.cfg for -t switch." is about
[04:32] <minghua> basically I am working on reverting wesnoth from 1.1 to 1.0.2
[04:32] <minghua> crimsun: looking at other changelogs it seems to be bug #1213
[04:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1213 in wesnoth "wesnoth option -t does not work (error: "Unknown scenario: 'test'")" [Minor,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1213
[04:33] <crimsun> minghua: I believe bmonty worked his magic for that one
[04:34] <minghua> crimsun: thank, I'll ask him then
[04:35] <minghua> I wonder if I should keep all the changelogs for 1.1 if I revert to 1.0.2
[04:36] <minghua> maybe I should
[04:37] <slomo_> yes
[05:03] <dolson> cripes, it happened before
[05:07] <ajmitch> afternoon
[05:09] <whiprush> hi ajmitch
[05:09] <ajmitch> hey whiprush, how's it going?
[05:09] <whiprush> good, yourself?
[05:09] <ajmitch> alright
[05:10] <Erlang> ah my karma just felt
[05:11] <whiprush> ajmitch: hey has anyone heard form \sh lately?
[05:11] <whiprush> I am concerned
[05:11] <ajmitch> nope, not that I know of
[05:11] <whiprush> :-/
[05:12] <ToadZzZztool> gn8
[05:30] <minghua> bug 36671
[05:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 36671 in xchat "no german language for xchat" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/36671
[05:31] <minghua> seems yes - Debian's xchat package doesn't have any .mo file
[05:57] <trappist> is there any documentation on how to use debdiff?  I've been using ye olde diff to attach patches to bugs, and I know it's not ideal, but I can't seem to find a good debdiff doc.
[05:57] <LaserJock> man debdiff ;-)
[05:58] <LaserJock> but basically "debdiff package1.dsc package2.dsc" for source packages
[05:58] <trappist> yeah that says it diffs between .debs and .udebs, and I don't have one of those
[05:58] <trappist> ah!
[05:58] <trappist> that's what I was looking for.  thanks!
[05:58] <LaserJock> trappist: np
[05:59] <LaserJock> I need to know how to get rid of characters from a different encoding or something
[06:00] <LaserJock> i've got a bunch of <C2><A0> where I should have a space
[06:00] <minghua> easy if you know which charset they are in...
[06:01] <minghua> actually sounds a little like chinese...
[06:01] <trappist> it's great fun trying to match those with regular expressions
[06:02] <LaserJock> hmm, if I open it in emacs it gives \302\240
[06:02] <minghua> Nah.  In zh_CN wide space is A1A1, zh_TW A140
[06:03] <LaserJock> acording to pine it is ANSI_X3.4-1968
[06:03] <minghua> 0xC2 == 0302, so that sounds right
[06:05] <LaserJock> anybody know what I can do with it?
[06:06] <minghua> you know what?  C2A0 is non-breaking space in UTF-8
[06:06] <LaserJock> hmm
[06:06] <minghua> LaserJock: so get a decent text viewer :-)
[06:06] <LaserJock> I got the file in an email so I wonder if it was UTF-8 but got sent as something else
[06:07] <trappist> LaserJock: so I do like, apt-get source packagename, put those files into a directory, do it again into another directory, do my editing on one of them and debdiff from a parent directory?
[06:07] <LaserJock> sure
[06:07] <trappist> ok
[06:07] <LaserJock> you can do it all in the same directory though
[06:07] <trappist> how
[06:08] <trappist> apt-get source will just clobber what I've already got, right?
[06:08] <minghua> you don't need to apt-get twice
[06:08] <LaserJock> well if you bump the version or something then you when you rebuild the source package it will have a different name
[06:08] <trappist> minghua: that's encouraging, since I'm working with kdebase
[06:08] <minghua> just change the version in debian/changelog and you'll get a different .diff.gz/.dsc, then debdiff
[06:09] <trappist> minghua: so I don't need two copies of the source to make a debdiff (the original and my changes)?
[06:09] <minghua> trappist: definitely not, you just need two .dsc/.diff.gz
[06:10] <LaserJock> trappist: yes but the source packages is the .diff.gz .dsc and .orig.tar.gz files
[06:10] <minghua> (I don't know if debdiff will untar them when it's run, though...)
[06:10] <LaserJock> trappist: debdiff will extract the source packages to /tmp
[06:10] <LaserJock> so you'll never see it ;-)
[06:11] <trappist> ok so correct me if I'm wrong here: apt-get source packagename.  edit my files, including the changelog.  copy(?!) the .dsc and the .diff.gz and run debdiff?
[06:11] <LaserJock> s/copy(?!)/build new source package/
[06:12] <trappist> oh, this is starting to make sense - how to do that
[06:12] <LaserJock> debuild -S is the easiest
[06:12] <trappist> ok cool
[06:12] <LaserJock> in the source directory
[06:13] <trappist> and when I edit the changelog, I do it as though I expect it to be patched as-is, incrementing build numbers and such?
[06:14] <LaserJock> trappist: kinda depends on what your doing
[06:14] <LaserJock> trappist: what are you trying to do?
[06:14] <trappist> just fixing a doc problem in kmenuedit
[06:15] <LaserJock> trappist: what is the current version?
[06:15] <trappist> 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu14
[06:15] <LaserJock> so do 3.5.1-0ubuntu15
[06:16] <trappist> yeah that's what I had
[06:17] <Se7h> i hope gaim2 to be that good for the so long delay on the release
[06:19] <Se7h> LaserJock is there any list to check the needing-fix programs on the repo ?
[06:19] <LaserJock> Se7h: I think that is called Malone ;-)
[06:20] <Se7h> malone? :o
[06:20] <LaserJock> there is also an unmet dep list somewhere on revu
[06:22] <Se7h> tauware?
[06:23] <LaserJock> yeah, just a sec
[06:23] <LaserJock> Se7h: http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/unmet/dapper-unmet.txt
[06:24] <trappist> wow debuild is way better than dpkg-buildpackage
[06:25] <trappist> which apparently requires sudo and doesn't want to sign the package
[06:27] <LaserJock> debuild is a wrapper around dpkg-buildpackage but it's what I use
[06:27] <Se7h> LaserJock those are dep that didn't reach universe?
[06:28] <LaserJock> Se7h: they are packages that aren't installable because of a dep problem of some kind. Sometimes the deps have had a name change or something like that
[06:28] <minghua> hmm... I've never used debuild before
[06:28] <Se7h> LaserJock thats the thing i dont get. Why do name changes. There should be a default for each
[06:29] <Se7h> minghua its good alright :)
[06:31] <trappist> one I saw today was a dep on libpango10-0 where we now have libpango12-0
[06:31] <trappist> err libpng
[06:32] <LaserJock> Se7h: we also had to do name changes for cxx transition
[06:33] <LaserJock> trappist: you can also do pdebuild if you want to also build the binary package. it is debuild+pbuilder
[06:34] <minghua> okay, this wesnoth seems to working
[06:34] <LaserJock> hmm, I still don't know what to do with this file :(
[06:34] <LaserJock> yeah!
[06:38] <Se7h> LaserJock what file?
[06:38] <LaserJock> I've got a file that has some different encoding or something
[06:39] <LaserJock> so it's full of <C2><A0>
[06:40] <LaserJock> but I'm not sure what the regexp would be to get rid of them :/
[06:45] <Se7h> those '<X>' mean something? or are just text editor codes?
[06:46] <Se7h> heres another app that should go into univ.
[06:47] <Se7h> 'pac - perl audio converter'
[06:47] <LaserJock> Se7h: no they are spaces
[06:48] <minghua> LaserJock: the file doesn't show correctly in gedit (using UTF-8 encoding, that is)?
[06:49] <LaserJock> I don't know about gedit but it doesn in vim or emacs
[06:49] <Se7h> LaserJock something like regrem = re.compile("<??>" (python)
[06:49] <minghua> LaserJock: try gedit ;-)
[06:51] <Se7h> a simple python script would do the job
[06:51] <Se7h> :p
[06:52] <LaserJock> Se7h: it would huh?
[06:52] <minghua> LaserJock: I believe Se7h (not that I can write such a python script) :-)
[06:53] <Se7h> LaserJock yes
[06:53] <LaserJock> minghua: dang, gedit worked fine
[06:53] <Se7h> yay \o/
[06:54] <minghua> hehe
[06:54] <LaserJock> but I tried to save it as something else but it still look weird in emacs and vim :/
[06:55] <minghua> actually I am surprised that vim has problem with it
[06:55] <Se7h> vim shows all encodings the text might have
[06:55] <minghua> LaserJock: when you open it in vim, what does ":set fileencoding" show?
[06:56] <minghua> vim is usually not very smart in automatically recognizing encodings
[06:56] <minghua> I suspect LaserJock's vim was using latin-1
[06:56] <minghua> or something similar
[06:57] <LaserJock> hmm, doesn't say anything
[06:57] <minghua> Hmm, apparently 40M takes a while to upload from a DSL line
[06:57] <Se7h> 40mb ? :o
[06:57] <LaserJock> but in gedit it says that the file is ASCII
[06:58] <minghua> LaserJock: try ":set fileencodings=utf-8", then use ":r file" to open it
[06:58] <minghua> well, gedit lied
[06:59] <Se7h> eheh, i just remembered my weather report tool (python made) :)
[07:02] <LaserJock> hmm, nothing seems to work
[07:02] <minghua> poor LaserJock
[07:03] <Se7h> LaserJock suck when that happens doesn' it? :>
[07:03] <LaserJock> this is so stupid
[07:03] <minghua> LaserJock: try iconv -f utf8 -t ascii file
[07:03] <minghua> LaserJock: maybe iconv will be smart enough to change the non-breaking spaces to ordinary ones
[07:04] <Se7h> didnt gedit fixed it ?
[07:04] <LaserJock> no
[07:04] <Se7h> [05:53:29]  <LaserJock> minghua: dang, gedit worked fine
[07:04] <Se7h> o.0
[07:05] <LaserJock> it views it fine
[07:05] <Se7h> then copy paste the text
[07:06] <LaserJock> minghua: no go, "iconv: illegal input sequence at position 1995" when it hits the bad characters
[07:07] <minghua> LaserJock: yeah, bad luck, then
[07:07] <Erlang> a bug that makes a package useless (SIGSEV at start) on an architecture is of what severity level?
[07:07] <minghua> LaserJock: go learn some python, perhaps?
[07:07] <minghua> :-P
[07:07] <Se7h> :)
[07:07] <Se7h> LaserJock want to send the file ?
[07:09] <minghua> "Accepted wesnoth 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (source)"  Yay!
[07:11] <Se7h> Package python2.3-celementtree version 1.0.2-2build1 has an unmet dep:
[07:11] <Se7h>  Depends: python2.3-elementtree
[07:11] <Se7h> what the hell is this ?
[07:11] <Se7h> a package depending on itself?
[07:11] <Se7h> o.0
[07:11] <Erlang> ?
[07:12] <Se7h> oh forget it
[07:12] <Se7h> read it wonrg (im sleepy)
[07:13] <Se7h> *wrong
[07:13] <LaserJock> yeah, both of those are needed for bzr and I made the same mistake
[07:15] <Se7h> LaserJock want to send the file ?
[07:29] <ajmitch> LaserJock: the python-* mess is no surprise considering how many python2.3 packages have been stripped from main, with good reason
[07:31] <LaserJock> hmm, and I'm trying to add 2.3 to gausssum in Debian
[07:34] <Erlang> can anybody answer my question above?
[07:36] <minghua> Erlang: in debian or in ubuntu?
[07:36] <Erlang> Ubuntu
[07:37] <Erlang> "Critical, Major, Normal, Minor, Wishlist", that is.
[07:37] <LaserJock> I think it is for the devs
[07:39] <Erlang> I have not yet read anywhere that severity should only be set by devs.
[07:39] <minghua> if we are talking about bug 3442, I don't think changing the severity has any effect
[07:39] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 3442 in praat "hangs on startup" [Major,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3442
[07:40] <Erlang> I've set 'Major' where a package becomes useless because of that bug.
[07:41] <Erlang> but in praat's case, it's only on AMD64... that is why I asked.
[10:19] <siretart> morning
[10:19] <crimsun> 'morning
[10:20] <siretart> slomo_: I asked on malone for opinions for external faad. neither you nor crimsum answered. So lets revert  that the next upload
[10:20] <siretart> hi crimsun!
[10:20] <zakame> hi all
[10:20] <crimsun> siretart: err, I haven't been getting such e-mails...
[10:20] <crimsun> (motu media, correct)
[10:21] <crimsun> hi zak
[10:22] <zakame> heya crimsun
[10:25] <crimsun> bug #34384
[10:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 34384 in yelp "Yelp crashes on starting" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/34384
[10:25] <crimsun> bug #27844
[10:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 27844 in yelp "No help topics are displayed in yelp" [Major,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/27844
[10:25] <siretart> crimsun: oh. interesting. do you receive motumedia mails at all?
[10:25] <crimsun> siretart: nope
[10:25] <siretart> hm. I thought so. slomo told me the same.. interesting
[10:26] <siretart> I'll check why
[11:04] <phanatic> hi people
[11:06] <zakame> heya phanatic
[11:06] <phanatic> hey zakame
[11:09] <Yagisan> G'day zakame, phanatic
[11:10] <phanatic> hello Yagisan
[11:10] <zakame> heya Yagisan
[11:11] <Yagisan> so what have we been up to today ?
[11:12] <siretart> crimsun: ah, I notice that you aren't subscribed at http://tauware.de/mailman/listinfo/motumedia at all
[11:13] <siretart> crimsun: that mailing list is the primary contact list for the motumedia launchpad team, every bug which the motumedia team is subscribed should send mails there
[11:13] <crimsun> that would do it
[11:13] <Yagisan> anyone here still use breezy ?
[11:14] <Yagisan> if so could you see if you can reproduce https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/36616
[11:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 36616 in evolution "Repeated crashing on particular spam, if the preview window is open" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[11:15] <Yagisan> I'd love to know I'm not the only one suffering.
[11:16] <crimsun> siretart: done
[11:16] <siretart> should do it now. yes
[12:44] <Tm_T> here too? ;)
[01:45] <Tonio_> hello
[02:00] <Yagisan> ajmitch: any updates on your selinux work ?
[02:01] <Toadstool> hi here
[02:01] <jpatrick> hey Toadstool
[02:01] <Toadstool> o/ jpatrick
[02:02] <jpatrick> bbl, have to have lunch
[02:16] <slomo_> siretart: i'll get the external faad fixed today (with a bit of luck :) ). i only don't want to use the internal one to prevent code duplication. we had enough problems with ffmpeg in the past, no need to get another one ;)
[02:20] <siretart> slomo_: right, good idea
[02:25] <zakame> o/ Tonio_ Toadstool jpatrick
[02:25] <Toadstool> hi zakame
[02:25] <jpatrick> hi zakame
[02:26] <Tonio_> hello zakame :)
[02:27] <slomo_> siretart: btw, do you already have an idea why the media list doesn't like crimsun and me anymore?
[02:43] <siretart> 2006-03-26 14:38:50 1FNUWA-0008LF-99 <= motumedia-bounces@tauware.de H=vserver31.int-colo-nuernberg.priv (tauware.de) [192.168.77.131]  U=list P=esmtp S=2489 id=20060326123805.6279.66152.malonedeb@gandwana.ubuntu.com
[02:43] <siretart> 2006-03-26 14:39:00 1FNUWA-0008LF-99 => crimsun@fungus.sh.nu R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=fungus.sh.nu [216.239.132.98]  X=TLS-1.0:RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24
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[02:43] <siretart> slomo_: and I'll happily show you more logs
[02:44] <siretart> slomo_: the problem with crimsum was that he wasn't subscribed. For you I can only suspect spam filters
[02:46] <slomo_> siretart: hm, i'll take a look at it later
[02:59] <slomo_> siretart: hmm... there is actually nothing in the faad2 code in mplayer that could fix anything like this... and the url to the mplayer mailinglist contains a patch for a demuxer in mplayer...
[03:00] <siretart> slomo_: then lets switch to external faad2 code and hope the submitter doesn't notice :)
[03:00] <slomo_> siretart: hehe... let me test some things before :) i'll switch back later
[03:01] <siretart> ok
[03:02] <slomo_> siretart: hm and the mplayer people use a way older faad version than we use...
[03:02] <siretart> slomo_: could be a regression in the faad code then
[03:02] <slomo_> siretart: i'm currently looking at the complete diff... could take some time :) (6000 lines)
[03:04] <slomo_> siretart: would really help to have a test video...
[03:06] <phanatic> hi people
[03:08] <siretart> slomo_: do you really care that much about faad? ;)
[03:09] <slomo_> siretart: i already spent hours on that thing... some more don't hurt now ;) and as more and more people get an ipod or use itunes aac becomes more important unfortunately :(
[03:11] <siretart> oh. right. didn't think about that
[03:12] <slomo_> siretart: someone should convince steve jobs to switch to ogg vorbis ;)
[03:13] <siretart> slomo_: ogg doesn't provide digital restrictions managment. something apples seems to be proud of
[03:13] <siretart> and ppl keep on buying that crap :(
[03:14] <slomo_> siretart: there is a drm implementation for ogg vorbis somewhere... but nobody uses it ;)
[03:15] <siretart> tell me why that doesn't surprise me..
[03:38] <slomo_> siretart: but i can confirm that with the internal faad one movie has sound... and with the external it doesn't
[03:54] <zakame> fellows, can you please check malone 35196
[03:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 35196 in eclipse libswt3.1-gtk-java "Rebuild against firefox" [Normal,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/35196
[03:54] <zakame> I've attached a debdiff
[04:03] <bmonty> zakame: do you want people to test build it?
[04:03] <zakame> bmonty: if they can, yes
[04:04] <bmonty> zakame: ok
[04:12] <bmonty> zakame: building now
[04:15] <zakame> bmonty: thanks
[04:15] <zakame> bmonty: It'll take a while though, 2h maybe :/
[04:16] <slomo_> siretart: and somehow the movie works with gstreamer :) so i guess something in mplayer is broken...
[04:16] <phanatic> hi Gloubiboulga
[04:16] <Gloubiboulga> hi phanatic :)
[04:21] <bmonty> zakame: I got time :)
[04:21] <slomo_> siretart: so we better leave it that way for now... faad is fine, mplayer is broken and only wants to decode that file with it's bundled version...
[04:21] <zakame> bmonty: rocking
[04:43] <slomo_> siretart: i'm not in the media team anymore for some reason... and can't join because "Your subscription to this team is expired. You can't join this team."
[04:45] <siretart> wtf?
[04:45] <siretart> slomo_: I readded you
[04:46] <slomo_> siretart: thanks :)
[04:46] <siretart> gnarf. I misclicked and approved xor81 as member
[04:46] <siretart> slomo_: have you heard about him?
[04:47] <slomo_> no... write him a mail and ask who he is :)
[04:47] <zakame> gahh
[04:48] <siretart> slomo_: I made you and crimsun motumedia team administrators
[04:52] <slomo_> siretart: thanks... i'm uploading avidemux now :)
[04:54] <siretart> slomo_: thanks. I didn't get to it for too long time :(
[04:58] <bddebian> Heya folks
[04:59] <bmonty> monring bddebian
[04:59] <bmonty> er...morning
[04:59] <bddebian> Heh, heya bmonty
[04:59] <zakame> heya bddebian
[05:00] <bddebian> Hi zakame
[05:08] <zakame> gn8 all! :D
[05:09] <Tonio_> any reviewer available plz ? we have a few kde packages requiring revu to prepare for UVFe and main inclusion
[05:45] <cyberserver> Hi people.
[05:47] <cyberserver> Do you face problems browsing sites where there are dynamic layer menus and flash, where the menus are not shown because the get behind the flash movie?
[05:47] <cyberserver> For instance, http://www.asus.com.tw/index.aspx
[05:48] <cyberserver> I face this problem on lots of sites... with all browsers, konqueror, forefox, opera...
[05:55] <siretart> it doesn't work anyway on my amd64 workstation
[06:03] <cyberserver> siretart: But... Hmmm... That would solve the problem yes... but.. I would be left without flash then..
[06:03] <cyberserver> siretart: Do you know if other flash plugins could work ? The free one instead of the macromedia?
[06:05] <cyberserver> What amazes me most is that firefox in win$$ does not show the same problem.. being both plugins (win and lin) from macromedia I would expect the same behaviour from both...
[06:06] <siretart> cyberserver: there is a free (as in speech) flash implementation, but I don't know how mature it is.
[06:15] <cyberserver> siretart: Yes, that was the one I was taling about... Last time I tryed it it was ... well... not mature...
[06:15] <siretart> jo
[06:15] <cyberserver> siretart: I asked the same question in #kubuntu ans someone sayd this was fixes in svn for firefox... I'm gonna have a look
[06:16] <siretart> this would be a firefox problem then
[06:19] <cyberserver> Hmmm.. I'm looking... but ... maybe an workaround for the flash problem?
[06:20] <cyberserver> This cant be a firefox problem as I used opera, firefox, konq and galeon... all showed the same behaviour
[06:20] <cyberserver> siretart: oops, sorry: they said "in svn for konqueror", not for firefox :-p
[06:40] <bmonty_> compiling zakame's eclipse package made my other computer unusable :(
[09:23] <Riddell> what's the current status of uploading new packages?
[09:24] <LaserJock> Riddell: NEW new or sync new?
[09:24] <Riddell> NEW new
[09:24] <LaserJock> I think its working
[09:25] <Riddell> so we can just upload after revu?  no UVF or whatever needed?
[09:25] <LaserJock> oh, no
[09:25] <jpatrick> damn
[09:25] <LaserJock> We are still in FeatureFreeeze
[09:26] <LaserJock> you'd have to get an exception
[09:27] <jpatrick> this could take a while
[09:28] <LaserJock> I think mdz does the exceptions
[09:28] <Mithrandir> if it's a totally new package, you can just upload it.
[09:28] <Riddell> Mithrandir: ah good, that's what I wanted to hear :)
[09:28] <Mithrandir> (as long as you don't need new versions of packages already in the archive, naturally)
[09:28] <jpatrick> Mithrandir: Kerry http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2198
[09:29] <LaserJock> Mithrandir: what about Feature Freeze?
[09:29] <jpatrick> so I can just dput this?
[09:30] <Riddell> jpatrick: once you're got two advocated revu's
[09:31] <Mithrandir> LaserJock: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-March/005107.html
[09:33] <LaserJock> Mithrandir: hmm, interesting. I wish these things were a little bit more clear
[09:34] <LaserJock> Mithrandir: we had the understanding that FeatureFreeze needed an exception
[09:46] <siretart> Riddell: revu is imo a platform to show/present packages.
[09:46] <siretart> Riddell: NEW packages in universe are generally accepted, IIRC. I think mdz said something like that somewhere
[09:52] <Mithrandir> siretart: if you look at the link I pasted, it's said mail from mdz. :-P
[09:53] <siretart> Mithrandir: Oh, I'm sorry, your right
[09:53] <siretart> I should perhaps deactivate the hilight on 'revu'...
[09:53] <Mithrandir> heh :-)
[09:54] <trappist> is there an appropriate way to get some visibility for a bug where only the reporter and "ubuntu-bugs" are subscribed?
[09:55] <trappist> the package maintainer is a @debian.org so I dunno if anybody's paying attention to it
[09:55] <yves> btw, could someone please review my nwu packages?
[09:55] <yves> 2182
[09:57] <siretart> trappist: just try it :)
[09:57] <trappist> siretart: try what?
[09:57] <trappist> oh the email address
[09:57] <trappist> ?
[09:58] <Erlang> trappist: just for fun, which bug it is?
[09:58] <siretart> jo
[09:58] <trappist> Erlang: 30992
[09:58] <yves> Ubugtu, bug #30992
[09:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 30992 in iptables "no ip6 modules" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/30992
[11:17] <Toadstool> siretart: hi and yes it looks like ipmasq is a debian native package :/ i didn't know there's no need for an UVF exception for that kind of packages...
[11:17] <siretart> Toadstool: it is currently
[11:17] <siretart> Toadstool: this was meant as a question to the other members of the uvf team
[11:18] <Toadstool> ah ok
[11:20] <ajmitch__> hi
[11:20] <Toadstool> hi ajmitch_
[11:20] <Toadstool> oops not the good ajmitch :)
[11:20] <ajmitch> no, it's his evil twin
[11:20] <Toadstool> :)
[11:53] <Toadstool> good night everybody