=== mpt [n=mpt@219-89-138-65.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-202.nr.ip.pt] has joined #launchpad [12:31] Goooooooooooooooooooooood morning New Zealanders! [12:31] And good evening everyone else! [12:40] Good evening mpt! (-: [12:41] mpt, good night :D === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has left #launchpad [] === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #launchpad [12:52] morning mpt === bburton [n=bburton@ip68-13-128-127.om.om.cox.net] has joined #launchpad === spiv [n=andrew@adsl-66-203.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-138-65.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #launchpad === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #launchpad === dewd [n=dewd@201.29.105.156] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.10.67.133.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #launchpad === dewd [n=dewd@201.29.105.156] has joined #launchpad [06:28] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Fix missing NotFoundError import and add tests for that codepath (r3350: Stuart Bishop) === jamesh [n=james@203-166-237-197.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad [07:58] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Initial cut at distroreleasequeue refactoring as per Bug 36470 and Bug 36472 (r3351: Stuart Bishop) === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-55-122.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #launchpad === natescape [n=natescap@outside.whatever.net] has joined #launchpad === natescape [n=natescap@outside.whatever.net] has left #launchpad [] [08:27] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial] Fix broken staging/launchpad.conf (r3352: Stuart Bishop) === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-146-191.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === yves [n=yves@unaffiliated/nictuku] has joined #launchpad [08:38] hi. I've created a poll and I didn't know I could not edit it after opened. Could you delete it? thanks === mpt [n=mpt@222-154-180-160.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [09:20] hi mpt [09:21] hey jamesh [09:21] status clcient is landed [09:22] stub: me wanna cherry pick done... is that feasible ? [09:22] sure [09:23] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [r=jamesh] Branch status client, supermirror puller, and integration of the two. (r3348: Guilherme Salgado, James Henstridge, Robert Collins) [09:23] it needs an authserver bounce done after the db is updated [09:24] db updates in there, are there? [09:24] That might need downtime [09:24] mpt: you left a handkerchief behind in the room. I asked if they could leave it with your luggage (assuming you had left it there), but apparently that wasn't possible. [09:24] lifeless: cool [09:25] stub: yes, the additional branch column 'mirror_status_message' [09:26] Just looking at the patch - looks like I can apply that without downtime [09:26] lifeless: So the authserver code needs an update too? [09:26] yes. [09:26] stub: yup [09:27] stub: will not break until the new db column is used [09:27] stub: but will fall over crying like a baby when it is. [09:29] And this is required, or should it just go in with the next rollout (Wedesday I expect, but maybe tomorrow) === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #launchpad [09:37] Bah. Sampledata conflicts in the cherry pick === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-149-13.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.5.172.108] has joined #launchpad [09:45] hi [09:47] on https://launchpad.net/people/vetsel-patrice/+packagebugs , clicking on a critical number like 5 fo cupsys do not work [09:49] and for blender 5 unassigned bug for 4 open seem's strange :) [09:52] can you explain what you mean by "doesn't work"? [09:54] just click on it (5 on cupsys line) [09:54] when i do that , i'm standing to see the 5 criticals bugs [09:55] but https://launchpad.net/people/vetsel-patrice/+packagebugs-search?field.distribution=ubuntu&field.severity=Critical&field.sourcepackagename=cupsys&field.status=Unconfirmed&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Needs+Info&search=Search [09:55] nothin [10:05] Kagou: I see 4 bugs on that second URL [10:05] lifeless: test failures after cherry picking that patch [10:06] jamesh, you see 4 bugs with my last link ? [10:06] yeah [10:06] 0 for me do you want a screenshot ?! :D [10:06] oops. wrong link :) [10:07] Kagou: I see one extra bug if I add "&field.omit_dupes.used=true" onto the end [10:07] It might be that the other 4 bugs are private? === mpt_ [n=mpt@222-154-180-202.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [10:08] or maybe they are closed [10:09] so it's a strand behaviour [10:09] yeah [10:09] the counts must be from a different query to what is used to display the results === carlos [n=carlos@84.76.255.40] has joined #launchpad [10:13] morning [10:13] morning carlos [10:17] carlos: had a good trip home? [10:17] jamesh: yeah, but the taxi was really expensive and when I arrived there... my flight was delayed for 3 hours... [10:18] jamesh: other than that... it's only a 2 hours flight :-P [10:18] jamesh: and yours? [10:18] ouch ... [10:18] good [10:18] I had to choose a different tube route to get to the airport though [10:18] they had shut down some of the lines for the weekend again [10:20] they don't want that you leave London :-P [10:20] stub - if there are test failures its probably ok to leave it. we're activating the new sftp server today and it would have been good to have it in for that [10:21] I can apply the db patch if that helps at all - adding a new column isn't dangerous to us. === mpt__ [n=mpt@222-154-180-202.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === dataniska [i=datanisk@myyry.net] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad [10:35] stub: it wont be useful unnless we roll out the authserver too - did you get any authserver test failures ? === ddaa [n=ddaa@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad [11:00] jamesh: yo [11:00] jamesh: the OOPS summaries are showing RequestStatementTimedOut as an exception rather than as a timeout [11:00] mpt__: yo [11:00] daf: so it does. [11:00] I should fix that [11:01] we got two oops summary emails due to the daylight savings transition ... [11:01] :) [11:01] hmm [11:02] this means you're 9 hours ahead rather than 11? [11:02] no [11:02] oh [11:02] just that half past midnight happened twice [11:02] you haven't done yours yet? [11:03] done what? [11:03] (the script runs off chinstrap) [11:03] .au hasn't done it's timezone change yet [11:03] daf: .au doesn't have a single tz shift [11:03] daf: we have 3 IIRC [11:04] well, western australia doesn't have a daylight savings transition [11:04] jamesh: which is one of the 3 - 'None' [11:04] bah [11:04] lifeless: is it 4 this year? (Commonwealth games) [11:05] the games have their own timezone? [11:05] or did other states follow NSW? [11:05] now you're just showing off [11:05] daf: NSW delayed the switch back to winter time til after the games [11:06] daf: the games have their own tz [11:06] jamesh: not sure about ACT, vic etc === Simira [n=simira@194.24.252.250] has joined #launchpad [11:07] /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/2006_Commonwealth_Games [11:07] so it does [11:08] daf: I'd forgotten to copy the updated oops analysis script over to the right place on chinstrap [11:08] fixed now === luks [n=lx@unaffiliated/luks] has left #launchpad [] [11:09] thanks [11:10] I'll look at updating the oops.cgi script to use the new duration info too [11:11] oh? [11:11] how so? [11:14] I wonder if it's worth special-casing "2 UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-8: ordinal not in range(128)" [11:15] carlos: 1 SQLObjectNotFound: The Language by alternateID code=u'aka' does not exist [11:15] daf: URL? [11:15] https://launchpad.net/rosetta/groups/ubuntu-translators/aka [11:15] that should be a NotFoundError, I think === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #launchpad [11:16] shall I file a bug for you? [11:16] that language was renamed two weeks ago or pehaps four... [11:16] daf: yes, that's a bug [11:16] daf: thanks [11:16] de nada [11:18] daf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_time_zones <- explains the gory details [11:19] carlos: https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+bug/36824 [11:19] Malone bug 36824 in rosetta "translation groups traversal raises SQLObjectNotFound" [Minor,Confirmed] [11:20] ,em /win close [11:21] hi Simira :) [11:23] hi daf, how are you? [11:23] fine thanks [11:23] how are you? [11:23] pretty good, just trying to do some work [11:24] will you be a the next conference, where or whenever that is...? [11:24] how are the no translations? [11:24] hmm, I suspect I won't [11:24] I will be at GUADEC [11:24] that is after the conference, isn't it? [11:25] I wanted to go to GUADEC, but I don't know now... I probably can't afford it. [11:25] no translations are going slow, I think. We tried to have a translation-sprint-night, but noone showed up :p [11:26] oh, no [11:26] that's a shame [11:26] stub: why are soyuz changes going in when there's no cprov and no me to help monitor them? [11:26] stub: seems like a very dangerous thing to be doing [11:27] I thought soyuz ran a different branch on production? [11:27] daf: got merged === stgraber [i=steph@xeon.stargate-server.com] has joined #launchpad [11:28] ah [11:28] While I'm not worried about other things breaking soyuz too much, going ahead with changes to distroreleasequeue seems like inviting issues without a soyuz developer on-stream [11:29] Kinnison: no test suite ? [11:29] lifeless: Possibly incomplete coverage as always [11:30] well, if it breaks, you can add tests when you fix it :P [11:32] daf, the problem with the "This bug is not recorded as needing" etc presentation is fixed in my tree [11:33] cool [11:33] tell me about your ideal UI for subscribe-on-comment === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [11:36] daf, https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/BugWorkflow?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=bug-report.jpg [11:38] mpt__: is that a checkbox for "Add a comment"? [11:38] yes, though I haven't thought about that part very heavily === mpt__ is now known as mpt [11:39] mpt: you left a handkerchief in the room in London [11:39] I asked at the desk if they could leave it with your bag (assuming you had left it there), but they said they couldn't [11:39] jamesh, I realized that at about Canning Town, but it doesn't matter [11:39] thanks anyway === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@222-154-180-202.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [11:44] Kinnison: There are soyuz changes going in? [11:44] stub: distroreleasequeue?! [11:44] Its in pending for whenever someone gets a chance to look at it [11:45] aah right [11:45] I was concerned because sabdfl assigned a bunch of bugs to me, then you come along and say you've done stuff, and I'm not even meant to be working on LP for another two months [11:45] stub: are you still maintaining pytz in baz-1.x, or have you moved to bzr? === Kinnison got a bit scared, s'all [11:45] Kinnison: deep breaths :) [11:45] ;) [11:46] jamesh: Still in baz due to baz-import bugs === Kinnison has an asthma attack all over daf === daf hugs Kinnison [11:48] stub: okay. Was looking at https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/36484 [11:48] Malone bug 36484 in launchpad "Timezone "Asia/Dacca" to be renamed" [Normal,In progress] [11:48] mpt: what is "Bug watch URL"? [11:49] daf: I'd guess it is the URL for the bug in the remote tracker [11:49] hmm [11:49] mpt: I'm not convinced by collapsed activity [11:49] mpt: if I want to read the bug, won't I have to uncollapse them all manually? [11:50] a good bug is like a story [11:50] jamesh: Both work, and both are listed in common_timezones [11:52] so they are. [11:52] stub: bugs ? [11:53] lifeless: In pytz? Nah. It is just a transform of a different database, so even if it is wrong it needs to be fixed elsewhere. [11:53] lifeless: oh... baz-import [11:54] lifeless: Bug 36108 [11:54] Malone bug 36108 in bzrtools "baz-import fails with AttributeError" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/36108 [11:56] daf, they would all be expanded by default, and whether an individual comment should be expanded or collapsed would be decided wiki-style [11:57] collapsing the comments that were just noise [11:57] mpt: collapsing "me too!" comments, I guess [11:57] or that had been obsoleted by a new description [11:57] correct [11:57] hmmm [11:57] but if a comment is collapsed [11:57] I'm not going to look at it [11:58] to decide whether it needs to be uncollapsed :) [11:58] You don't need to, unless there are following comments that don't make sense as a result :-) [11:58] it's certainly an interesting idea [11:58] it would be nice to see if it works in practice [11:59] it could use AJAX [11:59] and tags [12:00] s/tags/keywords/ [12:00] daf: tags is the term we'd use, if we decide to use them === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [12:04] stub: update [12:05] good morning, sabdfl [12:05] hey simira [12:07] sabdfl: how's london? And how's the conference planning going? [12:07] im not up to speed on that, silbs has it under way [12:09] I guess bugging you about it won't speed it up anyway. Just trying to figure out summer holidays (you ruined my plan for birthday in Barcelona!). [12:10] sabdfl: how's weather in London now? I was supposed to go there this weekend... [12:11] it was raining on Saturday before I left ... [12:11] jamesh: it's better than snow anyway [12:17] stub: btw, staging.ubuntu.com is giving a Bad Gateway error again [12:19] stub: could you fire up the staging server again, please? [12:19] sabdfl: Doing an update now. It was dead due to a broken configuration file. [12:20] sabdfl: Might be a few mins - one of the text indexes needs to update === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #launchpad [12:52] sabdfl: staging is back up [01:18] thanks stub [01:18] ka === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #launchpad === mpool [n=mbp@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [02:08] stub: hi, around? [02:16] launchpad admins here? [02:16] https://launchpad.net/products/picard/+review <-- can anyone assign ownership to lalinsky@gmail.com [02:17] jordi: is all ok? [02:18] jordi: aren't you able to do it? you are a DOAP admin === oohlaf [n=olaf@deschacht.student.utwente.nl] has joined #launchpad === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.140.235.58] has joined #launchpad [02:27] carlos: it's not my project [02:27] carlos: I'm not a DOAP project, I'm a member of the Archive Registry team only [02:27] jordi: but you are an admin on the project/product tool [02:28] oh [02:28] nope [02:28] hmm [02:28] DOAP == Archive Registry [02:28] s/DOAP project/DOAP admin/ [02:28] well, I cant :) [02:28] ok [02:28] Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. === carlos changes it [02:28] I love this error message. :) [02:28] jordi: file a bug [02:28] jordi: I think you should have as an admin... [02:29] jordi: change done [02:29] jordi: btw, could you move the Rosetta import policy to wiki.launchpad.net as a final document? it has a note that it lacks notification email templates [02:30] ok [02:31] carlos: the OLPC document is written blog-style [02:31] I wasn't sure where this needs to appear. [02:31] Do you know? [02:31] OLPC? === bradb_ [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [02:43] carlos: One Laptop Per Child [02:44] any admins around? [02:44] carlos: yo [02:44] daf: I'm round [02:44] stub: can you do https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/36142? [02:44] Malone bug 36142 in Ubuntu "release information on launchpad wrong" [Normal,Unconfirmed] === carlos is confused..... [02:44] should be a support request, really [02:45] Now we have support email, we can start encouraging that. [02:45] So is that correct re: the version number? [02:47] daf: I think that distro guys should be able to change it, if they cannot, it's a bug [02:47] stub: yes [02:47] stub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule says June 1st [02:47] carlos: I suppose so [02:47] daf: But do you know if the version number is changing too? [02:48] it is [02:48] the version number is according to the release date [02:49] we could get somebody on the distro team with the right permissions to do it [02:49] as Carlos pointed out [02:49] phone [02:49] I'm changing it. I just didn [02:50] 't follow the details of the delay announcement === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #launchpad === carlos -> lunch [03:06] stub: thanks for the DB update === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [03:54] morning hackers! [03:55] moaning! === ..[topic/#launchpad:kiko] : https://launchpad.net/ | developer meeting: Thu 30 Mar, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 [03:58] man am I feeling weird today [04:07] hey kiko [04:07] why's that? [04:08] not sure -- perhaps just travel shocked [04:13] how's it going daf === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #launchpad [04:18] fine [04:26] what's bzr-ese for 'cvs update -p -r ' ? [04:27] bzr branch -r XXX [04:27] ah, nm, bzr cat [04:28] oh, for a specific file === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #launchpad === smergler5 [n=smergler@hebrew.ccs.neu.edu] has left #launchpad [] === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #launchpad [04:43] hmm. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/wpasupplicant/0.4.8-0ubuntu2 gets a 404 [04:44] I suspect that its still not installed/processed yet, because I just uploaded it. but there are already links pointing there, which are (still) dead === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #launchpad === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #launchpad === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #launchpad [04:49] OOPS-86B362 [04:49] https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/86B362 [04:56] thanks siretart I'll look into it [05:00] kiko: hey, how was cprov's wedding ? [05:01] it was super-cool [05:01] had a great time [05:01] got home a bit late, though [05:03] kiko: that's not a bad thing :-P [05:04] I usually don't like sleeping late [05:05] now the 404 is away. I assume the package has been installed now [05:08] btw, would it be possible to have https://launchpad.net/people/pkg-wpa-devel to be converted to a group (with me as owner)? [05:16] you can't convert people to groups [05:16] what you can do is: [05:16] merge that account with your own [05:16] create a team with that name [05:16] you can also just rename that account and create a team with its name [05:17] hm. that 'person' was created because I just uploaded a new version of wpasupplicant [05:18] so it is not intended that a package is maintained by a group, but only by a person, right? [05:18] I think it can be either a person or a group, but you'd need to check with Kinnison to be sure. [05:19] because if I do what you say, I fear that I get the maintainer of the wpasupplicant package, which I don't want [05:19] will write to launchpad-users about this 'problem' [05:19] it is okay that my name is in the uploaders: field ;) [05:19] heh [05:19] okay, but I'd still ping Kinnison to clarify that. === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [05:27] hi [05:27] hey [05:28] does malone has an xmlrpc interface? [05:28] not yet [05:28] planned for soon? [05:31] as a matter of fact, it is, yes [05:32] Steve landed some xmlrpc infrastructure that makes it super-easy to implement [05:32] we're still blocked on zope3.2 to deploy that, but we have it in the works [05:32] cool [05:32] kiko: I spotted an issue with the "don't edit upstream task" [05:32] BjornT is likely to be working on that with bradb [05:32] seb128, yes? [05:33] you should be able to edit a task with no pointer to an another bug tracker [05:33] because it has nothing to sync on === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad [05:33] and we have some tasks "stucked" with wrong settings due to that [05:33] we can't reject them by example [05:33] that's odd -- that's the way it should work, and the code checks that correctly [05:33] BjornT, ping? [05:34] perhaps this was landed as part of the bugwatches work === matid [n=matid@195.116.35.7] has joined #launchpad [05:35] I think pqm is stalled again... [05:36] lifeless? [05:36] jamesh: around? === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [05:37] bradb: is bug #35075 something easy to fix? [05:37] Malone bug 35075 in malone "Bug Triagers would benifit from a way to list bugs filed without a package" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35075 [05:37] seb128: yeah [05:37] that would make bug triaging team work easier apparently [05:37] could you put it on your list? :) [05:37] I can imagine. [05:38] (we are having an bugsuad meeting on #ubuntu-meeting atm) [05:39] kiko: Do you want me to fix bug 35075, or someone else? It'd be nice if we can get that in for the next rollout. [05:39] Malone bug 35075 in malone "Bug Triagers would benifit from a way to list bugs filed without a package" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35075 [05:40] let me take a look at that [05:41] seb128, can you explain how these bugs "fell through the cracks"? [05:41] seb128, noting that they were posted to ubuntu-bugs [05:42] kiko, with the amount of msgs a day on ubuntu-bugs it's hard to keep up with all of them ... [05:42] kiko: that's stuff triagers want to look at [05:43] without having them in the middle of a flood [05:43] I see. [05:43] mpt, have you managed to land all your branches? [05:44] yeah, that makes sense. [05:44] (this is all for the ubuntu distribution): If I click on unconfirmed bugs then select sort by: oldest first, and click search, it defaults back to all open bugs. Is this intended? === kiko considers having a special +bugs/+triage page with a UI specific for triagers [05:44] kiko: good idea [05:44] lakin, no, it's a bug. [05:45] bradb, ^^^ [05:47] a known one, or should I report? [05:48] does launchpad scan revisions for registered branches which are a branch inside a shared repository? [05:49] lakin: If search can't find one, best to report it. [05:49] I registered my branch last night, and see 82.211.81.156 hit my webserver, but it only requests .bzr/branch-format [05:49] or should I wait a bit longer? [05:50] not sure how fast the indexing goes after registration [05:50] oohlaf, ddaa is the best person to ask, but I'm not sure he'll be on before wednesday [05:50] ok [05:51] can some try to branch from http://deschacht.student.utwente.nl/bzr/bazaar-vcs/bzr.olaf.info/ to make sure I did not misconfigure apache [05:53] ah, I see a 404 in the logs [05:55] oohlaf, I'm branching fwiw and it seems to be going ok [05:57] ah, yes the 404 is a get on .bzr/repository/format, and does not exist because the repo is one dir higher [06:06] oohlaf, the branch seems to be going fine, though it says it will take 2h to finish (and therefore I am giving up on it :) [06:06] kiko: ok thanks for testing [06:07] I saw it hit my repo, only 404 after the first format one was for the .sig files at revisions [06:07] which is ok [06:08] yeah, should be === MrFunky [i=MrFunky@host86-136-154-249.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #launchpad [] === daf [i=daf@muse.19inch.net] has left #launchpad [] [06:45] oohlaf: new branch format is not supported yet, we plan to support it when 0.8 is released [06:46] oohlaf: as lifeless puts it, it's just a matter of crossing the teas and dotting the eyes. [06:48] stub - ping [06:51] ddaa: ah, ok [06:56] lifeless, any chance you can look at PQM? [06:59] Kinnison: hi, around? [07:10] kiko: if you can looka t gina for me ? [07:10] kiko: starting a service using the production launchpad.conf: [07:10] sure [07:10] Failed to load application: The directory named as part of the path /srv/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu does not exist. [07:10] (line 174 in file:///srv/sm-ng/production/launchpad/configs/production/launchpad.conf) [07:10] . [07:11] what is this you're running? [07:11] gina doesn't need to be run anyway, does she? [07:11] this is the bzr sftp server [07:11] but it using the common production launchpad.conf [07:11] I see [07:11] and does the path indicated exist? [07:12] something about that config makes the config engine barf if the dir is missing, and it seems rather strange to mkdir such a dir on the supermirror [07:13] kiko: pqm is disabled. [07:13] lifeless, I see. why? [07:13] stub: PING [07:13] kiko: ^^^^ [07:13] lifeless, stub is not online, pinging him won't be very useful. [07:14] oh. well I'll reenable it then [07:14] and mail him [07:14] okay. it would be nice if you could get stub to be a bit more communicative about pqm changes [07:14] dude, you manage him! [07:15] I'll see about making pqm manage this state though [07:15] I've tried in the past, which is why I'm asking you :) [07:15] maybe you will have more luck [07:16] about the config, I don't think we've ever run a launchpad instance that isn't rooted in that directory [07:16] ah, now I see what you mean [07:16] is that line in the middle of gina's config? === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #launchpad [07:22] you can look in your branch at configs/production/launchpad.conf to see what it looks like [07:27] lifeless, why don't you remove the entire gina config from your config file? [07:28] it's only necessary if you intend to run her (which you don't AFAICT) [07:29] kiko: we dont want local modifications to the configs - that leads to a mess [07:30] kiko: and we dont want one config per daemon [07:30] lifeless, on what box is this running? [07:30] kiko: so the daemons all share the one production.conf [07:30] vostok [07:30] well [07:30] AFAICT this is the first launchpad instance deployed on vostok [07:31] second as it happens [07:31] baz sftp pusher was there already [07:31] if you look at production*/launchpad.conf, none of the files contain stanzas [07:31] AFAICT the idea was to have local configurations managed in RCS [07:31] but I am unfamiliar with this side of deployment [07:32] we manage the launchpad.confs via pqm [07:32] and rsync the lot over the top of the code base for ease of deployment, reliability etc. [07:33] another thing I don't understand is how your instance is even running there (for the sftp pusher) if it has a stanza [07:33] maybe you're not explaining the situation properly [07:33] we did mkdir that dir [07:34] ok, perhaps you could ask about the things that are most confusing [07:34] AFAICT there is a bug in either gina, the gina schema, or the lp config machinery [07:35] sounds like a bug in the config machinery [07:35] gina doesn't even come into the picture until you run her [07:35] which you aren't [07:35] right [07:35] the fact that we/stub have removed from the production launchpad.confs seems to suggest that is the current way of working around the problem. [07:36] also, I think having a local configuration file for vostok in RCS might be the correct way of doing it anyway [07:37] kiko: well, thats a different discussion, and one that stub and I agreed did not make sense [07:38] the reason gina is not in the productionX configs is that they are for the four appservers [07:38] I don't understand that reasoning [07:38] its in the main production config because that is where gina *and all scripts and daemons* are configured [07:38] mmmm [07:39] I guess stub is really the only person who can give you anything but guesses today [07:40] but do note there config directories for mawson, jubany, staging /and/ librarian [07:40] interesting, I had missed that [07:40] staging I knew about [07:40] as well as a configs/gina! [07:41] it configures all the staging services [07:41] yeah [07:41] I knew about librarian too. [07:41] so I think a configs/vostok or whatever may not be out of the question [07:41] but again I am just handwaving [07:41] I will chat with stub, I think its getting out of control and I want to understand why. [07:41] anyhow, its working now [07:41] ah, cool [07:42] you can sftp to lpusername@bazaar.launchpad.net [07:42] no way! [07:42] way [07:42] rock on rob [07:42] and spiv! [07:42] and how long until something like `bzr supermirror` just DTRT? :-) === Simira [n=simira@194.24.252.250] has joined #launchpad === kiko thinks about how that interacts with bzr push [07:43] bzr push lp:foo probably eventually [07:44] with the launchpad plugin? [07:44] yes [07:44] bzr push lifeless@bazaar.launchpad.net/~lifeless/bzr/performance for now [07:44] cool [07:47] * Creating database "launchpad_empty" with no sample data. [07:47] createdb: database creation failed: ERROR: source database "launchpad_ftest_template" is being accessed by other users [07:47] * Loading sample data [07:47] lifeless, just seen on pqm.launchpad.net [07:50] kiko: funny, no one is === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [07:50] I think it's an intermittent problem we've been seeing during make schema lately [07:50] I've mailed stub [07:51] just wanted to call it to your attention === bradb & # lunch [07:56] thanks === zyga_ [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [08:11] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [r=kiko] Added a way block .po files when the .pot file in the same directoy is already blocked + tests (r3353: Carlos Perello Marin) [08:11] woo [08:11] go carlos [08:12] finally [08:12] I wonder if it could be cherrypicked... [08:15] carlos, why cherrypick? isn't the production rollout happening as usual? [08:16] kiko: that merge will not be rolled out until next week following the usual procedure [08:16] ah, because it landed today [08:16] I see [08:17] right [08:17] siretart, that 404 is interesting. it occurs because that source package release is not yet published at all! [08:18] when we receive an upload, it will sit for a while until it has a publishing record created for it [08:19] there isn't really a way to find out if it has been published or not without issuing a query per row which would probably hammer performance [08:19] it's an interesting problem === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad [08:28] kiko: oh. I see. I hope I don't case too much trouble with this report.. [08:29] not too much trouble, but here am I scratching my head thinking how to solve it :) === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [08:30] and I'm not sure how critical this is. I just noticed it today, because I was very curious in seeing the buildlog for that package [08:31] mmmm [08:35] what privileges are necessary to change the priority of a spec? [08:35] you need to be a distribution driver [08:35] or, well, what is the spec associated with, daq4th [08:36] hm, i created it, i assigned to to me and i am not allowed to make it important ;-) [08:36] heh [08:36] well [08:37] what is the spec related to? [08:37] all zubuntu stuff ... [08:37] can you give me a link? [08:38] https://launchpad.net/distros/zubuntu/+spec/bootstrap-zubuntu/ [08:39] daq4th, I think that Thomas is the only one currently allowed to set the priority [08:40] can he authorize others to do so as well? [08:41] daq4th, the easiest thing he can do is hand over the zUbuntu distribution to a team and make you a member of that team. should be pretty trivial to do. [08:42] i think thomas tried this a while ago ... maybe he should try again ... [08:42] it is quite easy, ask him to talk to me if he needs help [08:43] ok, thanks .. === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [08:58] kiko: are you going to call me today? I'm going to leave soon [08:58] carlos, let's leave that for tomorrow, I am feeling unwell! [08:58] ok [08:58] how are things looking this week? [08:58] has pitti had time to look at your packs? [08:58] kiko: did you get the flu? [08:58] kiko: not yet... [08:59] no I didn't [08:59] just feeling a bit unwell [08:59] ok [08:59] mmm [08:59] what is the firefox spec so I can look at it? [08:59] kiko: I'm going to announce the debian-installer available to be translated now. All things are in place now [09:00] did you get stub to clean up the DB and Kamion to agree on the export? [09:00] kiko: https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+spec/rosetta-firefox-support [09:00] kiko: waiting for Kamion [09:00] kiko: he detected a minor problem with the comments [09:00] I see === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #launchpad [09:00] that I'm going to work on [09:00] better to wait for him perhaps before announcing? [09:00] yeah, that's why I didn't send it yet [09:01] kiko: btw, before you notice it from our logs, there is a bug that breaks rosetta-poimport scripts due a selectOne returning more than one entry [09:02] that means database borkage? [09:02] kiko: I can workaround it from the website === zyga_ is now known as zyga [09:02] kiko: yes, we cannot represent a restriction to prevent it with db schema [09:02] as it implies two tables [09:02] but It's a matter of improve the code that handles imports [09:03] you could just do the check in the code that adds the entries, could you not? [09:03] so we don't have two IPOFiles on the same path for the same sourcepackagename/productrelease [09:03] there is the risk of races.. [09:03] kiko: yeah, that's the plan, add it there [09:03] kiko: could be, but it can be fixed from hte website without using DBA rights [09:04] I see [09:04] it's still no good that the script crashes [09:04] it's a workaround, of course, but I think we should fix it when we add then and take care of any other future breakage due race conditions later [09:05] kiko: it crashes due the SelectOne [09:05] which you should stop using in that case? :) [09:05] kiko: that will just hide the problem... [09:06] I think we should fix it and leave the SelectOne there, if it breaks, it's due a bug [09:06] if the system works as it should, we should not get any problem there... === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === AlinuxOS [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-98-57.cust.tele2.it] has joined #launchpad === tambaqui [n=patricia@201-11-84-18.fnsce701.e.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === tambaqui [n=patricia@201-11-84-18.fnsce701.e.brasiltelecom.net.br] has left #launchpad ["Fui] [09:16] carlos: so, jdub is missing [09:16] I'm mailing you and kiko/stevea and who else? this [09:16] jordi: mail jdub, pitti and me [09:16] oh, right [09:17] jordi: ok, and kiko and steve [09:17] hey hey [09:17] hmm, great. Jim Gettys blog seems down right now [09:17] KIKO [09:17] that river pic is SO COOL man [09:17] kiko: I wonder why you never tell me to go to that country of yours [09:18] I'm pretty sure it's big enough to fit both of us! [09:18] you suck jordi! [09:18] kiko: dude [09:18] in case I haven't made that clear before! [09:18] Santiago de Cuba is waiting for US [09:18] Guantnamo, amigo! [09:18] I only hear bla bla bla bla bla cuba bla bla bla [09:18] lol [09:18] I ran 18km with mark on sunday did I tell you [09:19] it was awesome [09:19] we flattened the london circuit [09:19] mark did 18kms? that's pretty cool! [09:19] yeah [09:19] him me and bruce the leatherman [09:19] do I know bruce? [09:19] he's not Willis, right? [09:20] right [09:20] bruce is a character of much controversy [09:20] I missed out I guess. [09:20] he is south african [09:20] but yes, you did miss out [09:20] otoh, my knee is quite fucked I'm afraid [09:22] surgery! [09:22] no way [09:22] I need to avoid that [09:22] some good physiotherapist [09:22] I think I know one [09:22] who will do me good [09:22] i always knew running was bad for the health [09:22] mdke: you never tried! [09:23] kiko: BUT [09:23] it's almost as bad as smoking [09:23] today I went to swim at 7AM again. [09:23] if it is a female therapist I am all for it [09:23] jordi, well that's true [09:23] they massage your knees in just the right ways [09:23] While I don't run, I'll get strong swimming. Deal? [09:23] pffft [09:23] kiko: do you have 15 minutes for me? [09:24] carlos, I was born with 15 minutes free [09:24] he's way too busy with The Jordi [09:24] :-P [09:25] kiko: https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+bug/1982 [09:25] I'm fixing that bug [09:25] hmm, I'm going to open it, makes no sense to have it close... [09:26] carlos, I don't understand? [09:26] last text was a reflexion ;-) [09:26] kiko: I'm fixing that bug now [09:26] and I have a problem [09:27] I see [09:27] I don't have a way to know if the filename is a .gz, .bz2, tar.gz, tar.bz2.... [09:27] kiko: is there any way to know it from python using something like the 'file' command? === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [09:28] I don't want to introduce the filename argument just as a way to workaround that python problem [09:28] mmmm [09:28] I'm not sure there is a "magic"-style module for python [09:29] ask on #python? [09:29] ok [09:29] kiko: there is such module :-P [09:29] kiko: I didn't remember the database is called 'magic' [09:30] kiko: is it com.br, or co.br? [09:30] com [09:30] 'apt-cache search python magic' shows you python2.4-magic :-P [09:30] jordi, .com.br [09:30] carlos, only on dapper? [09:30] kiko: don't know [09:30] not on breezy at least === carlos checks [09:31] I mean, that's not a big deal [09:31] right, breezy doesn't have it.. [09:31] article sent [09:33] wow [09:33] it's not really .txt though [09:33] kiko: I think it was created after breezy release [09:33] that's fine [09:34] kiko: I guess I would need to request that dependency addition [09:34] carlos, if you and your reviewer think that depending on that package is okay remember to update our dependencies [09:34] yeah [09:34] kiko: that implies also an update in our servers... [09:34] yeah [09:34] shop around on launchpad list for opinions [09:35] right [09:35] time to leave now. I will send the email tomorrow [09:35] see you guys [09:35] jordi: thanks for the email [09:35] night carlos [09:35] I will answer the email tomorrow [09:35] night === bradb_ [n=bradb@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === mvo [n=egon@p54A6642A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [09:58] does anyone know if I can do uploads to breezy-backports nowdays? (actually uploading a modified source instead of "syncing" from dapper)? I need it for the update-manager and it's dist-upgrade feature [09:59] Hrmm, I can't change the status of bugs any more? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/36902 I just reported this bug and wanted to assign it to desktop-bugs, but i can't change the status/priority or assignee ... ? [09:59] Malone bug 36902 in nautilus "Location Widgets Don't theme properly (search,nautlius-burner)" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [10:00] lakin, are you logged in? [10:00] yes [10:00] They just aren't links for me. [10:01] do you get an expander arrow next to the status line? [10:01] "links"? [10:01] oh, never mind. The ui just changed. [10:01] I did not realize what the arrow did. [10:02] ok [10:02] sorry for the noise. :) [10:02] never sorry to ask a question! === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #launchpad === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #launchpad [10:37] is this is a known LP <--> IE bug? http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4va.jpg === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === pbrunier [n=pbrunier@gnu/webmaster/pbrunier] has joined #launchpad === Simira [n=simira@tellus.err.no] has joined #launchpad === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #launchpad [10:58] hi [11:00] did something change regarding text version of the launchpad pages ? [11:00] I have a very inefficient script that fetches bugs for a list of packages === bradb__ [n=bradb@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #launchpad === bradb__ is now known as bradb_ === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #launchpad [11:13] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [r=jamesh] correct uncommit support in branch-scanner (r3354: David Allouche) === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === mdke_ is now known as mdke === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === raphink|pala [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [12:00] lucas, ping? [12:01] kiko: pong [12:01] lucas, you were asking about the text bug pages? [12:01] yes [12:01] did something break in your scripts? [12:01] I was wondering whether some improvements where planned [12:01] no, but they are quite slow [12:01] and I ran into timeouts sometimes tonight [12:02] (ie some pages couldn't be fetched in a reasonable time) [12:02] it would be great if the +bugs-text pages for each package could be filtered with search arguments [12:02] we could work on that, sure [12:02] so I could, for example, exclude all "Fix released" bus [12:03] bugs [12:03] currently, I have to fetch all bugs and filter out those which aren't interesting [12:03] can you file a bug with an API mockup?