[03:07] <LaserJock> hi robotgeek 
[03:07] <Madpilot> hi all
[03:07] <robotgeek> hey LaserJock 
[03:07] <robotgeek> waves
[03:08] <LaserJock> hiya Madpilot 
[03:46] <Burgundavia> salut robitaille
[03:46] <robitaille> Hi Burgundavia 
[06:18] <Madpilot> hi all
[06:20] <Burgundavia> salut Madpilot
[06:20] <Burgundavia> how is clive liking Ubuntu?
[06:20] <Madpilot> seems to like it - he just messed around for an hour or so this afternoon
[07:17] <Madpilot> did the wiki team meeting yesterday happen? 
[07:19] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: yes
[07:20] <Madpilot> here or -meeting?
[07:20] <Burgundavia> here it seems
[07:20] <Burgundavia> I missed most of it
[07:25] <Madpilot> anyone else subsribed to the WikiTeam page on w.u.c and seen the latest edit? He's got a point...
[07:49] <robotgeek> Madpilot: most weird place to file a "bug"
[07:52] <Madpilot> robotgeek, yeah - but where would I file a bug against our wiki? I'm poking around LP right now...
[07:59] <robotgeek> Madpilot: not sure, really. 
[07:59] <Madpilot> hmmmm
[08:00] <robotgeek> lemme also join in poking lp
[08:01] <robotgeek> Madpilot: the wiki team is subscribed to bugs in Ubuntu Documentation Project
[08:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> it is an interesting point. the only reason i avoided it is becaue i was told to use my LP login on the wiki
[08:02] <robotgeek> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-doc/+assignedbugs
[08:03] <Madpilot> why do we have both "Ubuntu Documentation Project" and "Ubuntu Documentation Team" teams/accounts in LP?
[08:04] <Burgundavia> I have no idea
[08:04] <Burgundavia> I think it is some crazy attempt to seperate them
[08:05] <Burgundavia> we should merge them
[08:06] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: i think there is some concept of "team" and "product" in lp
[08:06] <Burgundavia> robotgeek: yes, but then we several products
[08:06] <Burgundavia> server guide, desktop guide, etc.
[08:07] <robotgeek> hmm, yes
[08:09] <Burgundavia> hmm, doc.gwos.org hasn't died yet
[08:09] <Burgundavia> shame
[08:10] <Madpilot> https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/1554/+index
[10:50] <Burgundavia> mdke_: rb is not part of gnome
[11:14] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, doc.gwos.org now seems to be down - been up to something this evening? :P
[11:14] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: nah ;)
[11:14] <Burgundavia> no, it goes down on a regular basis because there is a server that runs on the same box
[11:15] <Madpilot> game server, I think you mean?
[11:15] <Madpilot> daft system to provide docs, but WTF...
[11:17] <Burgundavia> yep
[11:19] <Madpilot> --- gwos.org ping statistics ---
[11:19] <Madpilot> 8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 7001ms
[11:19] <Madpilot> they take the whole thing down... 
[11:32] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: incidentally, the authors of that cyptography book need to figure out how to write more concisely
[11:32] <Madpilot> yeah, but it's still not a bad book - manages to make the math digestible
[11:32] <Burgundavia> ya'
[07:52] <trappist> anybody read my post on the apache2 section of the serverguide?
[07:53] <LaserJock> not really, sorry. Got my own doc stuff to worry about ;-)
[07:53] <trappist> understood
[07:54] <LaserJock> and I've never done anything with apache so I tend to tune it out 
[07:54] <trappist> any idea who wrote it?
[07:56] <LaserJock> hmm, nope
[07:57] <trappist> I'm trying not to step on any toes, but I think it's old.  maybe for apache1.x or maybe from another distro.
[07:59] <LaserJock> hmm, when did you send the email? I can't find it
[08:15] <trappist> yesterday I think, lemme check
[08:15] <trappist> no, saturday
[08:18] <trappist> subject was Apache2 in the serverguide
[08:19] <trappist> looking at it again, I can rule out that it was written for apache1.x, but it doesn't match the way we ship apache2
[08:51] <LaserJock> trappist: for some reason I must have deleted that email. I found it on the archives though.
[08:51] <LaserJock> trappist: bhuvan is the server guy I think so I'd ask him
[08:52] <trappist> aight thanks
[08:53] <LaserJock> I would think we want to make sure Apache is right for a server guide ;-)
[08:57] <trappist> yeah :)
[08:57] <trappist> but man it's big and appears to need a lot of work
[08:59] <LaserJock> better get to work then ;-)
[09:22] <mdke> trappist, if I get a few minutes I'll look at it. There is an apache2 wiki page we can draw on if the server guide needs some last minute surgery
[09:24] <trappist> that's good news
[09:31] <mdke> trappist, looks like it's written for apache2 on a cursory glance
[09:32] <mdke> i'll take a closer look at your mail
[09:32] <mdke> the problem may be a linguistic one
[09:33] <trappist> mdke: yeah I said above that it does seem to be for apache2, but maybe for another distro, or maybe the way we ship apache2 has changed too much since it was written
[09:34] <mdke> well you can still use apache2.conf for the server configuration, without touching the virtual host config, I think.
[09:36] <trappist> you could, but it would defeat the purpose if the nifty way we organize the config files, and the guide still doesn't match what users will find in apache2.conf
[09:39] <mdke> yes, I like that too
[09:39] <mdke> i think the wiki page doesn't really use the sites-enabled setup either
[09:39] <trappist> :/
[09:40] <trappist> I think I know what I need to know to fix it, but I dunno whether I'll be able to find the time
[09:40] <trappist> it's big :/
[09:41] <trappist> if you guys can tell my gf how important it is, that'll make it easier to find the time :)
[09:42] <mdke> haha
[09:42] <mdke> i know that feeling
[09:42] <mdke> I'll help
[09:47] <LaserJock> trappist: yeah, my wife isn't really understanding the incredible importance of the DocStringFreeze ;-)
[09:48] <trappist> mine gets the fact that we don't want to hand docs off to translators and then keep editing them, but it doesn't make her like to see me up all night on the computer :)