[06:21] doko: Can you look at http://librarian.launchpad.net/1840556/buildlog_ubuntu-dapper-hppa.ept_1.91ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [06:21] doko: And yes, that's reproducible. ept's configure script on hppa does that on every build attempt. [06:28] doko: Argh. And when I say "that's reproducible", I mean "It happened to me twice in a row".. Of course, on a third try now, it worked. :/ === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain [11:31] jbailey, infinity: glibc ping [11:33] doko: What's up? [11:37] looking at glibc which patches we miss from unstable, and the differences in patch names [11:38] Yes, Debian hasn't synced to new patch names. [11:38] But unstable is also now using quilt. [11:38] ;-P [11:38] They have the plans to, I don't have the spare time to push it right now. [11:38] Is there a particular bug you're chasing, or just general maintenance. [11:39] anyway, could you help in looking, which patches we do miss? [11:39] no, general, because I'm tired chasing bugs that are fixed in unstable :-( [11:42] Has there been more than just the hppa one? [11:43] Jeff, I don't know, and I really do not _want_ to know. [11:43] Right. The thing is that you would've had this bug with hppa anyway. [11:43] I used the patch that Carlos O'Donnell said he wanted on Ubuntu. [11:44] ok, so how can we ease the comparision? [11:46] I just need to finish pushing the rename into Debian. [11:47] that would be cool [11:47] But since they're not using dpatch anymore, even an md5sum listing won't help. [11:48] could we change to quilt as well? [11:49] For dapper? I'd rather not. [11:50] why? it would ease the comparision, even during the maintainance period [11:51] Just because it's more changes to core infrastructure. [11:51] The change to quilt isn't harmful in anyway, but it's more things changing. [11:52] but it lowers the maintainance effort [11:52] Does it? Once we release, we're unlikely to ever compare against unstable. [11:52] which other things are changing? [11:52] The locales separation, moving timezones out, etc. [11:53] right, but I think, that is addressed by the new naming of patches? [11:53] I don't have a strong objection to doing quilt. I'm just not generally in favour of changing things at this point that aren't going to clearly give benefit. [11:54] ok, so we come back to the comparision of the current state ... [11:54] Sure, which I can do. I spent most of today on the telephone though. [11:55] Tomorrow seems more likely for that sort of work. [11:55] Denis isn't around, I can't ask him about the patch name change. [11:56] I did not mean, that you have to do it. I'm trying to do it with very low effort [11:56] but Denis is doing locales only? [11:56] Denis is the one who implemented the quilt setup. [11:56] He and I were the ones talking about the patch rename. [11:56] ahh, ok [11:56] I've pinged aurel32 to ask him. [11:56] drow had no objection. [11:57] I haven't seen gotom online in a while. [11:57] pb doesn't usually get involved at that level. [11:58] it would be nice if you could do the comparision between current dapper and unstable [11:58] I did say that I would do that. [11:59] Hopefully tomorrow. [11:59] I don't have major calls scheduled for tomorrow which is nice. [11:59] btw, do my amd64 changes make sense? [12:00] With the gconv stuff? [12:00] I think so, yeah. [12:00] somebody really should convert glibc to some standard cdbs/debhelper stuff ;-P [12:01] glibc does use debhelper. =) [12:01] bah [12:01] That was one of the big changes that I made when I first started. [12:01] The glibc package in Ubuntu even uses DH_COMPAT=5 =) [12:02] And much of the glibc rules file was the prototype for cdbs. [12:02] But it needed multibuild. [12:02] The cdbs2 code might be suitable for glibc and gcc. [12:02] where is cdbs2?