[12:00] <arrick> esc_ape: I went for 3 weeks during finals with all online classes without internet here, cause cable crappy service
[12:00] <redguy> !tell RFTim about fixres
[12:00] <Hexidigital> twirpie, sorry... i can't help you... if it was firefox, i could help you find it
[12:00] <esc_ape> I wish I could have dsl...but I have to sign up for a landline
[12:00] <Sashi> how come my flash sound
[12:00] <__mikem> redguy he says he got it from the ubuntu site over the uk mirror
[12:00] <Sashi> theres no flash sound?
[12:00] <Newbieee> the WebSite is www.ubuntu.com Section Download
[12:00] <twirpie> :(
[12:00] <esc_ape> and my roommates dont want to pay extra for that
[12:00] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i saw this http://service.real.com/realplayer/security/03162006_player/en/ and wondered if the version i have in multiverse is going to be updated accordingly any time soon...?
[12:00] <Ongo> hi. when I boot regulary I got "greeter application crashing..." error, and when I boot recovery mode and then run startx I got "Failed initializing HAL" error. Can someone please help me?
[12:00] <Sashi> anyone?
[12:01] <__mikem> Newbieee make sure the cd you are booting from is infact the ubuntu live cd
[12:01] <arrick> psusi: I havent had a second of downtime, and currently have 1.5 throughput on my line here at my house, so I cant complain about dsl
[12:01] <twirpie> whats the command to serve for a .tar?
[12:01] <Newbieee> yes from the UK mirror.
[12:01] <twirpie> serch
[12:01] <Newbieee> mikem is the UBUNTU cd I am very SUre
[12:01] <redguy> __mikem: just wanted to make sure
[12:01] <RFTim> thanks redguy
[12:01] <twirpie> whats the command to search for a .tar?
[12:01] <Sashi> my flash player sound doesnt work..
[12:01] <soundray> __mikem: yes, but I'm still wondering what actually is going on.
[12:01] <dj-fu> find / -name "whatever.tar"
[12:02] <__mikem> IT can't be the ubuntu cd because like redguy said ubuntu doesn't contain dr dos or any other dos for that matter
[12:02] <twirpie> and to extract it?
[12:02] <__mikem> soundray the crux of the situation is he is infact somehow being booted into dos aparently from an ubuntu cd
[12:02] <__mikem> he provided a version number and everything
[12:02] <redguy> twirpie: locate '*.tar'
[12:02] <__mikem> I am guessing what he has is NOT an ubuntu cd
[12:02] <rufsketch1> hey, any way i can change the look of the terminal
[12:02] <rufsketch1> the plai black and white is...boring
[12:02] <__mikem> perhaps he got it mixed up with another after he burned it
[12:02] <rufsketch1> plain*
[12:02] <twirpie> redguy: and to extract it?
[12:03] <Ryand> soundray: i disabled it and restarted
[12:03] <Newbieee> Mikem noooo IS the Ubuntu CD...I am very sure....
[12:03] <Ryand> soundray: it is still disabled
[12:03] <Installer36> Ongo> my mistake when I boot in recovery I have to optins Control-D or root password
[12:03] <redguy> twirpie: depends if it's a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 or just a plain simple .tar (which is unlikely)
[12:03] <soundray> __mikem: now the big question is: did Newbieee mistake the CDs, or has someone hacked into the Ubuntu download server and replaced the CD image?
[12:03] <Newbieee> I checked 3 Times...
[12:03] <__mikem> This has got to be the strangest case I have ever seen
[12:03] <soundray> Ryand: it should be.
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> try a md5 sum of the cd. :P
[12:04] <bmk789> anyone have mythtv installed in dapper?
[12:04] <__mikem> soundray I highly doubt it, do you mind trying to diagnose this because I have tried every approach I know
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> or tell us what the files on the cd are. (from whthin windows)
[12:04] <twirpie> redguy: how about the command for all three :)
[12:04] <soundray> Ryand: leave it like that for now.
[12:04] <Ryand> soundray ok
[12:04] <redguy> twirpie: man tar
[12:04] <arrick> I need to download a .tar myself, CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz, how do I do so?
[12:04] <arrick> and then how do I extract the files?
[12:04] <twirpie> man tar?
[12:04] <soundray> __mikem: I will -- Newbieee, can you hang around?
[12:05] <Newbieee> soundray...I think There is a problem with the ubuntu Server!!!!
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  i think ya got some basic learning to do. :P
[12:05] <__mikem> ty
[12:05] <Ongo> hi. when I boot regulary I got "greeter application crashing..." error, and when I boot recovery mode and then run startx I got "Failed initializing HAL" error. Can someone please help me?
[12:05] <soundray> __mikem: I will *try* is what I mean.
[12:05] <__mikem> lmao, ok
[12:05] <Installer36> arrick> that site I gave you will walk you through it ...
[12:05] <rambo3> there is a ubuntu wiki page about tar look it up arrick
[12:05] <soundray> Ryand: do you still have the wav file on your desktop?
[12:05] <Newbieee> Soundray when I want now to download The Install Version Norton said that is a Trojan Downloader!!!
[12:05] <redguy> twirpie: no, that was too cruel. tar -xzvf foo.tar.gz tar -xjvf foo.tar.bz2 tar -xvf foo.tar
[12:06] <Ryand> soundrayL yep
[12:06] <Ryand> soundray: yep
[12:06] <rambo3> !tell arrick about tar
[12:06] <twirpie> thank you :)
[12:06] <soundray> Newbieee: I'll have a look at this situation when I've helped Ryand (or given up, as the case may be...)
[12:06] <redguy> !tell twirpie about tar
[12:07] <Ryand> : (
[12:07] <soundray> Ryand: what happens if you doubleclick that file?
[12:07] <twirpie> slowly getting the hang of this linux stuff :)
[12:07] <Ryand> it plays
[12:07] <zoexii> hello, I am looking for a way to schedule an audio recording of a radio programme...  (my receiver is connected to my computer)  any recommendations for an easy way to do this?
[12:07] <Ryand> and SOUND comes out
[12:07] <soundray> Ryand: isn't it great when something works?
[12:08] <arrick> thanks rambo3
[12:08] <Ryand> only ok onw speaker
[12:08] <Ryand> yes is is
[12:08] <soundray> Newbieee: can you give me the address of the download page?
[12:08] <soundray> Newbieee: please
[12:09] <soundray> Ryand: try your headphones now, maybe that's stereo.
[12:09] <Newbieee> ok
[12:09] <Ryand> they arnt
[12:09] <Newbieee> http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/5.10/
[12:09] <Ryand> soundray, ill play with alsa or something
[12:09] <soundray> Ryand: alsamixer, yep
[12:09] <Newbieee> from Here I took the Live CD
[12:09] <Ryand> soundray, if i cant figure it out ill ask you in a little while?
[12:10] <twirpie> alright i gotta go spend time with the pitbull before she tears the crap out of the house bbiab :)
[12:10] <Newbieee> And When I`ve tried to take the install...I couldn`t because Norton Stoped Me
[12:10] <soundray> Ryand: sure, ask the channel, there's always helpful people hanging around.
[12:10] <soundray> Newbieee: is it the Intel x86 one?
[12:11] <Lawrence1111> Hello all :)
[12:11] <abeal> hi, if anyone has a moment, I'm having trouble with the base installer.
[12:11] <redguy> !ask
[12:11] <zoexii> hello, can anyone tell me how to find out what the name of my audio input is?  it is not /dev/dsp (default for sound-recorder)
[12:11] <themachine> for some reason I can see my apache server at http://71.255.154.119/ but other people cant
[12:11] <gnomefreak> abeal: can you elaborate a little more on that?
[12:11] <redguy> themachine: firewall? wrong apache config perhaps?
[12:12] <abeal> During module loading, the system hangs when attempting to load the ide_disk module
[12:12] <themachine> westell 6100 modem running through a linksys router
[12:12] <soundray> Newbieee: are you on Windows at present?
[12:12] <Lawrence1111> Hello again, do I need to register a username with Nickserv to type here?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> abeal: is this 5.10 or 6.06? sounds like a bad iso
[12:13] <soundray> Lawrence1111: no, only if you want to pm.
[12:13] <Ryand> soundray: i have stero sound, but the there is almost no treble
[12:13] <frank23> Lawrence1111: you only need to register to send private messages
[12:13] <Lawrence1111> thank you soundray :)  I do have a question, may I just ask it or wait to be recognized ?
[12:13] <soundray> Ryand: both headphones and loudspeakers.
[12:13] <Lawrence1111> (thank you frank23)
[12:13] <soundray> Lawrence1111: ask.
[12:14] <Ongo>  hi. when I boot regulary I got "greeter application crashing..." error, and when I boot recovery mode and then run startx I got "Failed initializing HAL" error. Can someone please help me?
[12:14] <redguy> themachine: are you forwarding ports on the router?
[12:14] <Ryand> soundry: I.m not sure about headphones, let me check
[12:14] <JAyRULE> i just installed ubuntu and my network card isnt working... you'd think there was a way to remedy that in the 'device manager' but there isnt... do u guys know how to get it up and running?
[12:15] <redguy> themachine: the 80 port should be forwarded if you want apache to work on the standard http port
[12:15] <gnomefreak> JAyRULE: look in system>admin>network and see if its activated (or even listed)
[12:15] <PistolPedro> whats the equivalent to ipconfig /all in ubuntu ???
[12:15] <gnomefreak> PistolPedro: ifconfig
[12:15] <soundray> PistolPedro: ifconfig -a
[12:15] <gnomefreak> missed the /all :(
[12:16] <Intangir_> the gconf-editor isnt on the menus anywhere in ubuntu?
[12:16] <s|k> how do you watch streaming video on konquerer?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> Intangir_: it wont be you need to run it from terminal
[12:16] <bimberi> Intangir_: apps -> system tools -> configuration editor
[12:16] <JAyRULE> gnomefreak: in the graphical interface? then what
[12:16] <gnomefreak> JAyRULE: does it list your card?
[12:16] <zezu> anyone wanna help me out, i screwed up my audio and i've been going without for like a week now, no clue what i did
[12:17] <zoexii> ok, got sound recorder working... How can I make a script to run a command at a given time on a certain day of the week?  something that would run in the background, and preferably launch on login?
[12:17] <JAyRULE> gnomefreak: i dont know... id have to reboot..
[12:17] <arrick> later for now, uys
[12:17] <zezu> prob installed the asus driver to try to get surround
[12:18] <ozzloy> zoexii: crontabs can help you there
[12:18] <Goddy> yop
[12:18] <soundray> !ops
[12:18] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[12:18] <Lawrence1111> thank you. Would someone please point me to the docs for configuring sound as well as avi files with dapper drake 6.06? No matter what repositories I select or what codecs that seem required for .mp3 playback I install, as an example, nothing works with Rhythmbox ... and no videos with the exception of MPEG videos work with Totem. Thank you !
[12:18] <redguy> zoexii: you might want to look at cron or at
[12:18] <Seveas> soundray, ?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> you would have to reboot for what?
[12:18] <nalioth> soundray: yes?
[12:18] <bimberi> zoexii: cron for the former,  system -> Prefs -> sessions, startup programs for the latter
[12:18] <JAyRULE> gnomefreak: cus im in windows... gotta boot up ubuntu
[12:18] <soundray> Seveas, nalioth: someone noted that the live CD on the UK mirror is wrong
[12:18] <blanky> hey what's up guys
[12:18] <Intangir_> does anyone know why certain keyboard shortcuts dont work if you use the windows button
[12:18] <nalioth> soundray: please do not use the !ops trigger for that
[12:18] <Intangir_> but others do?
[12:18] <soundray> http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso is not a Ubuntu live CD apparently. Please advise :)
[12:19] <Lawrence1111> 'lo blanky
[12:19] <Seveas> soundray, the !ops trigger is for emergencies only
[12:19] <blanky> 'lo Lawrence1111
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ah i see
[12:19] <Seveas> soundray, next time WILL result in a ban
[12:19] <soundray> nalioth: it appears to be an emergency to me.
[12:19] <Newbieee> I was disconnected...this server is working so hard...
[12:19] <Seveas> soundray, IRC emergency
[12:19] <Seveas> like flooding
[12:19] <nalioth> soundray: !ops is for "irc channel" emergencies
[12:19] <ozzloy> zoexii: crontab is a file that holds a list of jobs with time and commandline for the job
[12:19] <Ongo> hi. when I boot regulary I got "greeter application crashing..." error, and when I boot recovery mode and then run startx I got "Failed initializing HAL" error. Can someone please help me?
[12:19] <Seveas> soundray, and that server is not even an official ubuntu mirror
[12:19] <soundray> Seveas, nalioth, okay, not for ubuntu emergencies then.
[12:19] <__mikem> soundray, are you saying that the thing was hacked
[12:20] <Seveas> just point people to uk.releases.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <Silencer> ppl I really need help
[12:20] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Understood, but what is the appropriate procedure for that anyway?
[12:20] <Silencer> my clock somehow go 10 min faster ;(
[12:20] <Silencer> every day
[12:20] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, just ask around
[12:20] <zoexii> ozzloy, cool, I'm reading about it now... do you know if it uses GMT (system clock time) or my timezone?
[12:20] <abeal> The system I'm trying to install it on is a sony VAIO PCV-200.  It's like eight or nine years old
[12:20] <JAyRULE> gnomefreak: so what do i do if it'
[12:20] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: mailing list, or a more appropriate #ubuntu channel
[12:20] <themachine> redguy, I'm forwarding port 80 on both the router and modem
[12:20] <JAyRULE> gnomefreak: so what do i do if its not listed?
[12:20] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, and point people to official mirrors
[12:20] <soundray> Newbieee: did you read this?
[12:20] <redguy> Seveas: it is listed in http://www.ubuntu.com/download, how an user might know if it's not an official server?
[12:20] <Lawrence1111> Silencer, how old is your (RAM?) battery ?
[12:20] <__mikem> Newbieee just left it looks like
[12:20] <gnomefreak> ok hold on JAyRULE what nic card is it you have?
[12:20] <Snareguydave16> Quick question... I have an ATI card.  I have followed the forums with optimizing these drivers.  I have wonderful video playback, but 3d rendering (screensavers, World of Warcraft) is horrible... any thoughts? (DMA is enabled)
[12:21] <soundray> __mikem: I see it as a distinct possibility.
[12:21] <Silencer> Lawrence1111, no not problem with tha Battery
[12:21] <Seveas> redguy, in that case notify the admin of that server and the ubuntu webmaster (heno on irc, henrik(at)ubuntu(.)com)
[12:21] <Silencer> it is all ok I got problems in ubuntu
[12:21] <__mikem> I wonder who would hack the ubuntu site, perhaps a bunch of microsoft thugs
[12:21] <Lawrence1111> OK Silencer, that I am stuck... Ubuntu/Linux newbie here :)
[12:21] <Harold_P> :)
[12:21] <Silencer> I'm not newbie
[12:21] <Lawrence1111> that = then
[12:21] <Silencer> long time ago I had the problem with ubuntu
[12:21] <redguy> Seveas: thanks
[12:22] <Silencer> I put that I live in belgrade
[12:22] <Silencer> and he change me to sarajevo
[12:22] <Silencer> dono why
[12:22] <Silencer> and how
[12:22] <JAyRULE> gnomefreak: umm...i dont know.. its my bros old pc...but i know it's ne2000 compatible
[12:22] <TheFaction20> Lawrence1111:im a noob too :)
[12:22] <Ryand> I have been working on my sound for like two days and i finally got it to work, but it only works on the right side, anyone have anyideas?
[12:22] <__mikem> Ryand check your speaker connections
[12:22] <Lawrence1111> OK faction :)  Well, if I could find those docs I'd look up the solution :)
[12:22] <__mikem> that kind of thing is almost never a software problem
[12:22] <Harold_P> Unplug and plug it back in.
[12:22] <rufsketch1> argh!
[12:22] <Ryand> i did, i have headphones too
[12:22] <Harold_P> And check if your speaker settings don't have on side on mute.
[12:22] <rufsketch1> i need help again!
[12:23] <Harold_P> one*
[12:23] <__mikem> Ryand try anotehr set of headphones
[12:23] <rufsketch1> i'm trying to install nvidia drivers but everytime i do it i get a black screen
[12:23] <beuno> anyone have any idea how to get a bash script to wait for a tar command to finish compressing?  its looping through dirs and I want it to wait for one dir to finish compressing before moving on to the next
[12:23] <TheFaction20> does anyone know of any good linux books?
[12:23] <Hexidigital> !alsa
[12:23] <ubotu> it has been said that alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[12:23] <rufsketch1> can any one help me?
[12:23] <Hexidigital> !dmix
[12:23] <ubotu> I guess dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:23] <rufsketch1> i'm using this tutorial
[12:23] <gnomefreak> JAyRULE: do you have a live cd handy?
[12:23] <redguy> soundray, __mikem you guys have a decent internet conncetion to actually download the iso, so that we might check if Newbieee was right?
[12:23] <rufsketch1> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[12:23] <Ryand> __mikem: hmm... i know these headphones work, but ill give it a go
[12:23] <kingspawn> beuno: it doesnt do that by default?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: no
[12:23] <JAyRULE> nope
[12:23] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[12:23] <themachine> TheFaction20, linux pocket guide
[12:23] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[12:23] <gnomefreak> do not suggest that
[12:24] <MisterN> n8
[12:24] <bobmcbob> hi, why do i get errors like aterm: can't load color "White", colorID = 0, (29)
[12:24] <rufsketch1> no one can help?
[12:24] <beuno> kingspawn: doesnt seem to, no
[12:24] <bobmcbob> when trying to load some apps (aterm, emacs)
[12:24] <Madpilot> !tell rufsketch1 about nvidia
[12:24] <__mikem> redguy, I would, but I don't feel like explaining this to my dad when he sees a huge collection of packets inbound to our network
[12:24] <soundray> redguy: am downloading as we speak.
[12:24] <bimberi> rufsketch1: don't use ubuntuguide, see the /msg from ubotu
[12:24] <kingspawn> beuno: strange. why does it cause a problem?
[12:24] <Newbieee> soundray There is a problem with the Images?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> JAyRULE: im thinking for a way you can get me out put of commands without net connection
[12:24] <beuno> it compreses the first ones fine, but after a few it just doesnt compress any more, just genreates 209 byte files
[12:24] <Ryand> __mikem: still only coming through the right side
[12:24] <Newbieee> Have you discovered Something?
[12:24] <beuno> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10869
[12:25] <__mikem> Newbieee we are trying to find out that right now
[12:25] <soundray> Newbieee: I'm not sure yet.
[12:25] <Snareguydave16> If anyone knows how to increase the framerate with my ATI card, that would be grand... (DMA is enabled already)
[12:25] <__mikem> Ryand then don't know what to tell you
[12:25] <rufsketch1> thnx madpilot
[12:25] <Ryand> I have been working on my sound for like two days and i finally got it to work, but it only works on the right side, anyone have any ideas?
[12:25] <rufsketch1> thnx bimberi
[12:25] <Ryand> __mikem thanks anyway
[12:25] <Madpilot> rufsketch1, np
[12:25] <bimberi> np rufsketch1 :)
[12:26] <__mikem> Ryand, that some times happens when the plug is only partially pushed in
[12:26] <Intangir_> damn gconf-editor keeps crashing on me everytime i change a value..
[12:26] <Lawrence1111> Excuse me, did I miss the answer to my question in the scroll ?
[12:26] <Intangir_> or at least im editing metacity values for hotkey and its locking up
[12:26] <gnomefreak> ok JAyRULE boot ubuntu and run the command lspci for me and write down everything it says for network card
[12:26] <brosioz> how could i set firefox to open emaillink with kmail when i found them on webpages ?
[12:26] <Silencer> can some1 pls help me about my problem with timezone and the problem with the clock
[12:26] <Ryand> __mikem if i pull it out a little it will come out of both sides, but it will be bad quality sound
[12:26] <Silencer> ubuntu change automaticly my timezone and my clock time :(
[12:26] <__mikem> What kind of headphones are they
[12:27] <__mikem> and is this a laptop machine
[12:27] <__mikem> or a desktop
[12:27] <gnomefreak> Silencer: do you have ntp enabled or disabled?
[12:27] <__mikem> I am almost certain its a connection problem
[12:27] <Ryand> __mikem: its a desktop, and i have ipod headphones and an a headset
[12:27] <Silencer> gnomefreak, disable
[12:27] <JAyRULE> gnomefreak: hrmm... ill be back some time later...im gona download irc on another pc..
[12:27] <Lawrence1111> excuse me, I'll BRB
[12:27] <JAyRULE> gnomefreak: thanks!
[12:28] <Ahewes> Need advince - I can't get crontab to run anything: I have the following single line in crontab: "1 * * * * /usr/bin/touch /home/rsb/testfile.txt" followed by a carraige return (needed as per crontab man page).   The file /home/rsb/testfile.txt never gets touched.
[12:28] <Ryand> __mikem: I did too until i spent about ten minutes playing with them
[12:28] <Ahewes> s/advince/advice
[12:28] <__mikem> Ryand for starters DON'T use anything by apple for a pc
[12:28] <rufsketch1> woah
[12:28] <Ryand> __mikem: lol
[12:28] <rufsketch1> whats 3ddesktop?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> Silencer: enabel it please it _should_ keep track of your time than  that is what i found to be biggest issue with that ) also you will want to set your bios clock back to right time
[12:28] <__mikem> 3ddesktop is not worth the trouble
[12:28] <bobmcbob> im using an apple keyboard right now on my desktop and its very nice
[12:28] <rufsketch1> lol, well what is it?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: a 3ddesktop switch (crap)
[12:28] <__mikem> bobmcbob lol, please don't do that
[12:29] <bobmcbob> its one of the nicest keyboards iv ever used :)
[12:29] <NigelS> rufsketch1: what we had to use to show off to windows people before compiz came along :P
[12:29] <Silencer> gnomefreak, thx will look for that
[12:29] <Newbieeee> soundray have you found something wrong with the images on the site?
[12:29] <Ryand> they are heavy though
[12:29] <bobmcbob> slightly confusing keymap but hey
[12:29] <Ahewes> whoa, 666 people in this room.  eerie.
[12:29] <tamale> does anyone know is SLI is supported in ubuntu?  My brother is having problems getting x to load properly at all
[12:29] <bobmcbob> are the forums down?
[12:29] <__mikem> ryand anyway, you say that if you pull it out slightly you can get both sides to work with "poor quality" what do you mean by that
[12:29] <tamale> he's got dual 6600GT's and wants to dual-boot linux with windows
[12:29] <gnomefreak> bobmcbob: no
[12:30] <bobmcbob> having trouble getting to them here
[12:30] <Madpilot> bobmcbob, ubuntuforums might be...
[12:30] <PistolPedro> tamale, i don't think it is
[12:30] <Hexidigital> !popup
[12:30] <ubotu> Hexidigital: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:30] <bobmcbob> thats what im trying
[12:30] <Ryand> __mikem: well its very distorted when the mini jack is about halfway in, but i do get sound from both speakers
[12:30] <redguy> Newbieeee: you might help figuring this out by downloading the .iso from http://uk.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/
[12:30] <themachine> can someone tell me if this server is working? http://71.255.154.119/
[12:30] <soundray> Newbieeee: there is something wrong, still not quite clear what.
[12:30] <Hexidigital> !popup blocker
[12:30] <ubotu> Hexidigital: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:30] <baibbas> I have Ubuntu Installed to my hard-drive, but now I have no way of getting to Windows.  When I start my computer, it automatically kicks me there, and doesn't give me the option to choose between Ubuntu or Windows.
[12:30] <baibbas> How can I fix this?
[12:30] <soundray> redguy: the 5.10 directory does not exist atm.
[12:30] <rufsketch1> am i running kernel 386 or 686?
[12:31] <rufsketch1> how do i find out?
[12:31] <bimberi> Ahewes: my reading is that that will only run hourly at 1 minute past the hour
[12:31] <PistolPedro> baibbas, hit esc at the grub loading screen and it should let you pick
[12:31] <tamale> PistolPedro:  But some people ARE running linux successfully with dual nvidia cards connected together... how is this possible?
[12:31] <frank23> rufsketch1: uname -a
[12:31] <__mikem> distorted, do me a favor and go to the volume controls in ubuntu and tell me how they are set
[12:31] <baibbas> ok thanks!! I appreciate that!
[12:31] <PistolPedro> tamale, i said i don't think so.. i'm not sure
[12:31] <TheFaction20> so how is ubuntu so customizable? are there things on the installed version u cant see on the live cd?
[12:31] <bimberi> Ahewes: try 1-59
[12:31] <tamale> well, is anyone here sure?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ok they werent down 10 mins ago :(
[12:31] <Ahewes> bimberi : I think that it's mintes, hours, days, months, years COMMAND, so my reading is every minute run this command...
[12:32] <Ahewes> o.k. I'll try it.
[12:32] <rufsketch1> frank23 this is what i get : Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic #1 Sat Mar 11 16:15:30 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:32] <Newbieeee> redguy that link is not valid
[12:32] <rufsketch1> which one should ui choose if i get that
[12:32] <frank23> rufsketch1: then you're running the amd64 kernel on the amd64 version of ubuntu
[12:32] <rufsketch1> is that 386 or 686?
[12:32] <Madpilot> TheFaction20, everything on the panels can be moved/removed/modified, and it's much easier to re-theme Ubuntu than it is XP, for example
[12:32] <frank23> rufsketch1: you can't run 386 or 686 with that install
[12:32] <gnomefreak> bobmcbob: trying to load the page it just sits there?
[12:33] <brosioz> how could i set firefox to open emaillink with kmail when i found them on webpages ?
[12:33] <bobmcbob> yeh gnomefreak
[12:33] <brosioz> how could i set firefox to open email_link with kmail when i found them on webpages ?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> bobmcbob: they must have just gone down :(
[12:33] <rufsketch1> so what should i search for frank23.  I'm trying to get nvidia drivers and i need to search for either linux-restricted-modules386 or linux-restricted-modules-686
[12:33] <TheFaction20> Madpilot: oh, i figured that out in like 5 minutes of messing around with it. I thought there were like things you could modify that made certain things run differently i guess
[12:33] <bobmcbob> typical
[12:33] <bobmcbob> :)
[12:33] <Ahewes> bimberi: you rock.  thanks. youre reading was absolutely right.
[12:33] <redguy> soundray: hmm that depends, seems like there is more than one server which uk.releases.ubuntu.com points to. some of them do not have the 5.10 dir
[12:33] <soundray> __mikem: well, first they are going to stop anyone else from downloading a bad image, which is what seems to have happened on the official UK mirror.
[12:33] <beuno> anyone have any idea how to get a bash script to wait for a tar command to finish compressing?  its looping through dirs and I want it to wait for one dir to finish compressing before moving on to the next code is in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10869
[12:33] <baibbas> Ok, when I hit ESC at the grub screen it gives me three options for the kernel but no WIndows, and I did the separate partition install
[12:34] <bimberi> Ahewes: great! :)
[12:34] <Madpilot> TheFaction20, you can, it just depends on which things you want to modify...
[12:34] <frank23> rufsketch1: -amd64 probably
[12:34] <rufsketch1> k
[12:34] <__mikem> soundray, i know its daunting, but you should probably check the other mirrors to to see if they are still ok
[12:34] <rufsketch1> thnx
[12:34] <bimberi> Ahewes: although for every minute it would be 0-59 (D'Oh) :)
[12:34] <Ryand> I cant get stero sound does anyone have any ideas?
[12:34] <TheFaction20> Madpilot:yeah, well idk what id want to modify cuz im a total noob to linux. and im just running the live cd til i can figure out how to boot from my usb external drive
[12:35] <Newbieeee> Soundray is the same to aprox all the mirrors...
[12:35] <bobmcbob> it has to be said, XGL is very nice to use
[12:35] <soundray> __mikem: I'll do what seems reasonable, but my monthly d/l volume is capped...
[12:35] <Newbieeee> I try from sweden...and it1s the same
[12:35] <TheFaction20> Madpilot:would these things be modded inside the terminal?
[12:35] <baibbas> Ok, when I hit ESC at the grub screen it gives me three options for the kernel but no WIndows, and I did the separate partition install
[12:35] <baibbas> Am I doing something wrong?
[12:35] <Ahewes> bimberi: yeah, that's more accurate.
[12:35] <frank23> rufsketch1: is this a new install?
[12:35] <rufsketch1> yeah
[12:36] <h0nus> hi
[12:36] <Ryand> soundray: i never got stero sound to come out... any ideas? i tried every port and i played with all the alsamixer a bit with no success
[12:36] <Ahewes> bimberi:  I'm not sure how to set up cron to run every X minutes, then.  This kind of breaks my understanding of it.  Back to the manuals....
[12:36] <h0nus> anyone use hydra for system security?
[12:36] <frank23> rufsketch1: I recommend you just install the i386 ubuntu instead (need reinstall with different install cd)  flash/video codecs/commercial software/etc is much easier to get running on i386
[12:37] <baibbas> Ok, when I hit ESC at the grub screen it gives me three options for the kernel but no WIndows, and I did the separate partition install
[12:37] <bimberi> Ahewes: 'man 5 crontab' - for every 5 minutes it would be 0,10,20,30,40,50 as that first field
[12:37] <baibbas> Can anyone help me?
[12:37] <bimberi> Ahewes: er, 10 minutes :)
[12:37] <Ryand> are the ubuntu forums down?
[12:38] <baibbas> Yes, they are down Ryand
[12:38] <Ahewes> bimberi: yeah.  I guess that's it.  Just seemed there would be a shorter way, but that's cool.  Thanks.
[12:38] <TheFaction20> i think so ryand
[12:38] <baibbas> The english ones are
[12:38] <baibbas> Can someone help me figure this out, I hit esc at the grub screen and it only gives me options for the linux kernel, but none for booting to Windows
[12:38] <Newbieeee> I think Now everithing on Ubuntu Site is down...
[12:38] <baibbas> And I did the separate partition install for Windows
[12:38] <Ryand> can anyone here help me get stero sound out of my speakers/headphones?
[12:38] <lafferpt> what's the openssh-server default port?
[12:39] <st3v3dnd> How can I stop gnome from thinking it is smarter than me? Right now I have an XML file that has an XML declaration at the top, and a bunch of docbook markup inside. I have *.XML files set to open with my XML editor, rather than Firefox. When I doubleclick to open I get informed that the type is that of eXtensible Markup Language, but that the contents indicate it's an HTML page, and it won't let me open except to right click and cho
[12:39] <st3v3dnd> ose an app to open with.
[12:39] <redguy> Ahewes: you might also enter 0-59/10 to make something run every ten minutes
[12:39] <gnomefreak> the forums are back up
[12:39] <__mikem> baibbas did you do a backup before doing the instalatino
[12:39] <Piero> hi everyone.. Does someone know any recorder which activate itself over a threshold?
[12:39] <bmk789> anyone have mythtv installed in dapper?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> bobmcbob: it should open without any issues if you get a database message please click the refresh button
[12:40] <bimberi> redguy: ooh yes, nice, thanks!
[12:40] <Matthewv> bmk789, maybe try #ubuntu+1
[12:40] <bmk789> thx
[12:40] <jabo-> i have windows installed on my laptop
[12:40] <jabo-> is it possible to install ubuntu as well without formatting my drive
[12:40] <__mikem> yes, but its not easy, using vmware is safer
[12:40] <jabo-> can i create a partition without formatting the drive and if so can it be done easily
[12:41] <jabo-> okay what is vmware
[12:41] <Matthewv> !dualboot
[12:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:41] <jabo-> sorry im a newbie
[12:41] <__mikem> www.vmware.com
[12:41] <__mikem> you don't have to use it, but its safer
[12:41] <redguy> baibbas: could you explain "I did the separate partition install for Windows" a bit?
[12:41] <bimberi> jabo-: sure, the installer can resize the windows partition to make space.  back up first.  running a defrag tool in windows first (after the backup) is a good idea
[12:41] <Ryand> can anyone here help me get stero sound out of my speakers/headphones?
[12:42] <__mikem> redguy I really hope he backed up his data
[12:42] <lafferpt> what's the openssh-server default port?
[12:42] <Surb> i'm running kubuntu on a machine with dual pentium III's, my memory's not the best so i don't remember what i need to get to start using the second. can someone help?
[12:42] <Piero> hi everyone.. Does someone know any recorder which activate itself over a threshold?
[12:42] <freak101> heyy    ummm how do u work this windows
[12:42] <bimberi> lafferpt: 22
[12:42] <__mikem> Ryand, unfortunately I tried everything, id see if you could get a pair of speakers and see if those would work
[12:42] <lafferpt> bimberi can I use telnet to connect to it?
[12:42] <c0llin> hello
[12:42] <freak101> heyy anyone now how to work the windows
[12:42] <bimberi> jabo-: more details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[12:43] <Ryand> __mikem: i have speakers too, same problem
[12:43] <freak101> "u bunt u"
[12:43] <redguy> Surb: the second what? cpu?
[12:43] <Matthewv> lafferpt, whats wrong with "ssh username@server.address"
[12:43] <bimberi> lafferpt: ubuntu doesn't install a telnetd by default
[12:43] <jabo-> okay thanks
[12:43] <Surb> redguy, yes.
[12:43] <jabo-> does the partition for ubuntu HAVE to be over 10gb?
[12:43] <jabo-> my laptop only has 12gb total
[12:43] <baibbas> _mikem, I'm going to look at the menu.1st file to see if Windows XP is even in there, and if it is not I will put it in there, reboot and see if it will load it.
[12:43] <bimberi> jabo-: minimum requirement is 1.8gb
[12:43] <PistolPedro> how do i clear all my mail
[12:43] <kristopher> I restarted Ubuntu (first time in a long while) and now my sound is very distorted :( Does anyone have an idea what could have happened?
[12:43] <redguy> Surb: you need the -smp linux kernel
[12:43] <Matthewv> jabo-, no.. I've done it on 5 Gig, but you dont want to run out of space too quick
[12:44] <__mikem> sounds good to me
[12:44] <freak101> heyy
[12:44] <redguy> Surb: linux-image-686-smp will do
[12:44] <Surb> redguy, so just apt-get it?
[12:44] <h0nus> if i _pastebin_ my stdout can someone help me find the packages i'm missing for this program?
[12:45] <lafferpt> Matthewv  at school I don't have ssh
[12:45] <freak101> how do you work the windows "u bunt u " ? please help me
[12:45] <redguy> Surb: yup, reboot the machine as well
[12:45] <zach> hello people...i have a ? how do i install xmms? t thought mabie terminal but i cant seem to get it to work
[12:45] <Matthewv> lafferpt, oh.. ok
[12:45] <__mikem> freak101 what do you mean work the windows ubuntu
[12:45] <Surb> thanks.
[12:45] <kristopher> zach, sudo apt-get install xmms worked for me
[12:45] <_jason> zach: did you enable universe?
[12:45] <frank23> lafferpt: telnet is pretty bad for security. passwords travel as plaintext
[12:45] <redguy> freak101: what?
[12:45] <zach> how?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> zach: sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:45] <gnomefreak> !info xmms
[12:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell zach about universe
[12:45] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[12:45] <freak101> its a motzilla network
[12:46] <zoexii> baibbas, is windows installed?
[12:46] <Ryand> is there a program that will play mp3's and m4a's?
[12:46] <_jason> zach: hrmm never mind, I thought it was universe for some reason, but it is in main
[12:46] <__mikem> !tell Ryand about mp3
[12:46] <freak101> hm?
[12:46] <ifz> !   :)
[12:46] <__mikem> Ryand look at the pm
[12:46] <_jason> zach: what does 'sudo aptitude install xmms' say?
[12:46] <rufsketch1> anyway to search a drive?
[12:46] <__mikem> ifz use a different font I can't read that
[12:46] <_jason> rufsketch1: locate, find, whereis
[12:47] <redguy> freak101: if you want to get help you have to be more elaborative.
[12:47] <Ryand> Ok
[12:47] <redguy> !ru
[12:47] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:47] <gnomefreak> _jason: i thought it was too but i wanted to check and i found typo in reply too :(
[12:47] <bimberi> _jason: i though it was too, must be a recent 'main' addition
[12:47] <rufsketch1> nvm found it
[12:47] <rufsketch1> thnx
[12:47] <lafferpt> installed telnetd but when I try telnet localhost it refuses the connection
[12:47] <strang> can anyone here help with with NX server? I'm trying to resume a session that got cut during a network outage..
[12:47] <rufsketch1> i just installed tuc racer but i cant find it anywhere
[12:47] <__mikem> redguy I recomend this adivce "dont get involved"
[12:47] <ifz> Can anyone help with centericq
[12:47] <strang> but the client just starts a new session.
[12:47] <rufsketch1> tuxracer*
[12:47] <soundray> Newbieeee: are you listening?
[12:48] <redguy> __mikem: :-)
[12:48] <zach> what is sudo aptitude install xmms? i am new to lenux sorry
[12:48] <Newbieeee> yes soundray
[12:48] <Surb> redguy, i can't find linux-image-686-smp in my package list.
[12:48] <soundray> Newbieeee: are you on Windows right now?
[12:48] <PistolPedro> what movie player besides vlc can play .bin ?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> zach: a command you type in terminal to install xmms
[12:48] <Newbieeee> Yes
[12:48] <zach> oh okay thanks
[12:48] <freak101> can anyone help me with my windows i just got it and i dont have a clue how to work iit  its called    ""U BUNT U ""
[12:48] <zach> brb
[12:48] <strang> PistolPedro: what type of file is the .bin?  it's not a standard format...
[12:48] <soundray> Newbieeee: have you got the downloaded+burnt CD in the drive?
[12:48] <_jason> gnomefreak: I got to go, you can help zach right? thanks :)
[12:48] <oldschooL|xephoN> how do I check if im connected to the internet (ubuntu)??
[12:49] <Newbieeee> yes
[12:49] <gnomefreak> _jason: yep ;)
[12:49] <PistolPedro> strang, .bin /cue it's a video ... vcd
[12:49] <linux_amateur> XD
[12:49] <strang> ahhhh
[12:49] <redguy> !info linux-image-686-smp
[12:49] <ubotu> linux-image-686-smp: (Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[12:49] <__mikem> freak101 its called "ubuntu " not u bunt u, and it is not something you can run under windows
[12:49] <msprauer> i have a problem with esd, well, not a problem with it, I just have to run it every time i boot either icewm or flux to get any sound, how do i get around this?
[12:49] <redguy> Surb: you are running breezy?
[12:49] <strang> PistolPedro: i don't know of too many players that will play it straight, without mounting the image as a virtual drive
[12:49] <Surb> redguy: flight 5, a friend told me to check it out.
[12:49] <__mikem> !lart freak101
[12:50] <PistolPedro> strang, how do i mount it?
[12:50] <ifz> anyone can help me with charset in xmms?
[12:50] <h0nus> can someone tell me how i can get SVN?
[12:50] <zach> 'Reading package lists... Done
[12:50] <zach> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:50] <zach> Reading extended state information
[12:50] <zach> Initializing package states... Done
[12:50] <zach> No candidate version found for xmms
[12:50] <zach> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[12:50] <kristopher> I restarted Ubuntu (first time in a long while) and now my sound is very distorted :( Does anyone have an idea what could have happened?
[12:50] <zach> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:50] <__mikem> why doesn't !lart work anymore
[12:50] <zach> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[12:50] <zach> Writing extended state information... Done
[12:50] <redguy> zach: don't paste in here!
[12:50] <zach> Reading package lists... Done
[12:50] <zach> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:50] <gnomefreak> zach: thats bad please dont paste in here
[12:50] <Intangir> what is the command line.. command to lock the X desktop?
[12:50] <redguy> !tell zach about pastebin
[12:50] <zach> Reading extended state information
[12:50] <zach> Initializing package states... Done
[12:50] <zach> zach@ubuntu:~$
[12:50] <Newbieeee> yes soundray is in my Drive
[12:50] <gnomefreak> zach: stop
[12:50] <Intangir> i wanna set a hotkey for it.. that uses the windows key
[12:50] <zach> sorry
[12:50] <joevandyk> How can I automatically run a program when my notebook resumes after a shutdown?
[12:50] <zach> sorry
[12:50] <ifz> anyone can help me with charset in xmms?
[12:50] <redguy> Surb: well, don't know the packages in deppaer yet. try asking in #ubuntu+1
[12:50] <h0nus> can someone tell me how i can get SVN?
[12:50] <zach> terribly sorry
[12:51] <soundray> Newbieeee: can you open a command line (Start-Run-cmd) and do a 'dir' in the root of the CD drive, and tell me how many items there are pls
[12:51] <frank23> h0nus: sudo apt-get install svn
[12:51] <GnomeWrecker21> does Ubuntu have a package manager for .deb files??
[12:51] <gnomefreak> zach: you need to enable universe repository before you can get xmms
[12:51] <linux_amateur> When I installed Ubuntu, the dhcp step failed... what do I do to have access to the internet??
[12:51] <h0nus> can i do that with ANY package i need?
[12:51] <Surb> redguy: okay. before i go there, isn't there a file i can edit to add more servers to the list that my apt will check for packages?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zach about universe
[12:51] <zach> how do i enable it?
[12:51] <frank23> h0nus: anything in the repositories yes. use synaptic for a graphical interface
[12:51] <gnomefreak> zach: ubotu sent you a pm telling you how
[12:51] <__mikem> soundray, did you asertain the status of the uk mirror
[12:52] <zach> okay
[12:52] <zach> i got it
[12:52] <redguy> Surb: yes, there is. it's /etc/apt/sources.list.
[12:52] <strang> PistolPedro: i've only mounted .iso cd images, so i don't know if you can mount a bin/cue
[12:52] <Newbieeee> soundray sorry?to tell you how many...???
[12:52] <Surb> okay, thanks.
[12:52] <soundray> __mikem: I get erratic responses from the download server.
[12:52] <h0nus> well i can change my repositories, and i wasn't sure if i have enough entries in my repsitories to find what i need
[12:52] <__mikem> thats a totally different problem in itself
[12:52] <PistolPedro> strang, you can
[12:53] <soundray> Newbieeee: do you know whether the CD drive is D: or E: or whatever?
[12:53] <h0nus> E: Couldn't find package svn
[12:53] <redguy> !info svn
[12:53] <Newbieeee> yes is E
[12:53] <redguy> h0nus: try subversion
[12:53] <rufsketch1> ARGH!
[12:53] <frank23> h0nus: actually the package is called subversion sorry
[12:53] <rufsketch1> tux racer wont run
[12:53] <joevandyk> How can I get a program to run after my notebook resumes after a suspend?
[12:53] <rufsketch1> i tell it to run
[12:53] <rufsketch1> but it does nothing
[12:53] <rufsketch1> it doesnt open
[12:53] <Drac[Server] > Shutting down temporarily to change surge protectors.
[12:54] <soundray> Newbieeee: just enter 'dir e:' and tell me how many lines of output it gives you, roughly
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> rufsketch1,  run it from the terminal and see if any error messages popup
[12:54] <h0nus> frank23: so "sudo apt-get install subersion" ?
[12:54] <h0nus> *subversion
[12:54] <redguy> h0nus: indeed
[12:54] <frank23> h0nus: yes. or use synaptic to do it
[12:54] <rufsketch1> ok
[12:54] <__mikem> when it comes to quickly updating software I prefere the terminal to the gui
[12:55] <solid_liq> h0nus: it may be in world if can't find it with apt-cache search
[12:55] <rufsketch1> the terminal opens and closes really quickly
[12:55] <h0nus> frank23: i receive the following prompt:
[12:55] <__mikem> rufsketch1 thats something that happens in windows
[12:55] <Newbieeee> soundray if Start-Run dir E: said Windows cannot find dir
[12:55] <h0nus> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[12:55] <h0nus>  'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'
[12:55] <h0nus> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[12:56] <frank23> h0nus: use synaptic to remove the cdrom repository
[12:56] <primoturbo> How can I change my kernel to a 6XX from 386?
[12:56] <rufsketch1> lol, well, it happened in ubuntu.  now what?
[12:56] <__mikem> hey, anyone got any advice on how to get my dad and brother to stop using fedora and use ubuntu, telling them it won best distribution award doesn't seem to be enough?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> __mikem: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:57] <soundray> Newbieeee: Start-Run, then 'cmd' <enter>. In the command line window, 'dir e:' <enter> (no quotes)
[12:57] <rufsketch1> y do u care what they use?
[12:57] <NigelS> __mikem: when they're not in, install it for them :P
[12:57] <h0nus> frank23: a warning window popped up saying there are problems on my system?
[12:57] <__mikem> My brother doesn't live with us, and I already did that with my dad
[12:57] <solid_liq> NigelS: :D
[12:57] <Newbieeee> ok soundray
[12:57] <__mikem> o well
[12:57] <rufsketch1> ok ok ok
[12:58] <rufsketch1> need help here
[12:58] <soundray> Newbieeee: how many lines?
[12:58] <rufsketch1> what do i do
[12:58] <solid_liq> __mikem: show them how much easier apt-get is
[12:58] <frank23> h0nus: like what? try the custom->Broken  package list
[12:58] <gnomefreak> h0nus: like broken packages problems?
[12:58] <Newbieeee> 6 lines
[12:58] <__mikem> lol, yup tried that
[12:58] <linux_amateur> what's the command line for the DHCP WIZARD??
[12:58] <zezu> o.O i can hear menus and mouseclicks and they aren't coming from my speakers ;|
[12:58] <NigelS> __mikem: tell them they can be more than just a test bed for red hat
[12:58] <twirpie> whats this mean ------> fixme:mci:MCI_LoadMciDriver Couldn't load driver for type L"MIRCWAV".
[12:58] <twirpie> If you don't have a windows installation accessible from Wine,
[12:58] <twirpie> you perhaps forgot to create a [mci]  section in system.ini
[12:58] <h0nus> frank23: when i search with the 'broken' filter nothing happens
[12:59] <gnomefreak> h0nus: sudo apt-get -f install  (to fix broken packages)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> zezu,  thats the esp-dongle-interface
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:59] <h0nus> frank23: also, i am running the x86 version of ubuntu, not the i386 version
[12:59] <frank23> h0nus: that's good ;)  what is the problem then?
[12:59] <zezu> yea well i dont like it
[12:59] <solid_liq> linux_amateur: why do you need a dhcp wizard?  just edit /etc/network/interfaces, and use ifup
[12:59] <zezu> hehe
[12:59] <gnomefreak> h0nus: just type sudo apt-get -f install  (no package name)
[12:59] <__mikem> NigelS did that too
[12:59] <kristopher> Fixed my problem with my sound
[12:59] <frank23> h0nus: same thing
[12:59] <h0nus> gnomefreak: okay
[12:59] <kristopher> Seems that muting "PC Speaker" caused my sound to be distorted... odd..
[12:59] <h0nus> frank23: ok that's good =)
[12:59] <gnomefreak> h0nus: x8s is intel based pcs 1386 is the procceser
[01:00] <soundray> Newbieeee: does one of the lines say "ubuntu"?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> x86*
[01:00] <h0nus> ahh
[01:00] <NigelS> __mikem: hmm, then this calls for serious measures - install Xgl and compiz and claim that the effects they see are "default" :)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> i386
[01:00] <Cooner750> I've got a issue
[01:00] <boguh> im running ubuntu on an thinkpad t41p, but it seems like the fan is always running. under windows its not running all the time
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: speak up we need to know what it is
[01:00] <__mikem> NigelS, thats cruel, and both of them know better than that
[01:00] <kristopher> Cheers all
[01:00] <Cooner750> Ubuntu is freezing at boot right after when it says "Setting up ASLA card 0       OK"
[01:00] <Cooner750> It won't budge after that
[01:01] <solid_liq> boguh: config acpi
[01:01] <solid_liq> !acpi
[01:01] <ubotu> solid_liq: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:01] <Cooner750> Eventually it goes to a black and white text-filled screen and just sits there
[01:01] <h0nus> frank23: i still have a warning window popping up
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: what is the name of the mod on next line?
[01:01] <rufsketch1> i'll be back
[01:01] <__mikem> ubotu bad bot
[01:01] <ubotu> __mikem: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:01] <NigelS> __mikem: well it's not very difficult to do :)  Point out that there is a far stronger and more viable community with ubuntu
[01:01] <h0nus> should i pastebin it?
[01:01] <Newbieeee> Volume in drive E is Ubuntu...Volume serial Number is 784B-3b75....Directory of E\ ....657,975,296 ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso......1file 657,975,296 bytes...0 dir 0 bytes free....that|s all soundray
[01:01] <Cooner750> Is it possible to manually escape the Ubuntu boot splash so I can see what it's doing?
[01:01] <NigelS> __mikem: of the sort RH is desperate to emulate
[01:01] <frank23> h0nus: please do
[01:01] <solid_liq> ubotu you suck
[01:01] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, solid_liq
[01:01] <solid_liq> hahah
[01:02] <redguy> !ubotu
[01:02] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:02] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: dont play with the bot
[01:02] <redguy> Newbieeee: you did not burn the iso properly
[01:02] <__mikem> NigelS, dad still thinks that Fedora is only free because its not being targeted at businesses
[01:02] <__mikem> he won't admit that Redhat has abandoned the open source comunity
[01:02] <redguy> !tell Newbieeee about burniso
[01:02] <soundray> Newbieeee: you have apparently copied the iso file to the CD instead of transferring the contained image to CD.
[01:02] <h0nus> frank23: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10871
[01:03] <redguy> Newbieeee: read the wiki link ubotu sent you
[01:03] <IamEthos> how do I install Flash support for the Firefox 1.5?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: alt f2 or ctrl+alt+f2 should bring you to a black text screen with errors on it i cant rememeber if its with or without the ctrl but it should tell you what is going on if you hit it while its sitting there
[01:03] <NigelS> __mikem: well RH do still contribute lots to the software we use and to the kernel for example, but there's little doubt that they want to reserve their better developments for the enterprise edition of RH
[01:03] <__mikem> soundray that sounds good and great but that doesn't explain Dr DOS 7.03 appearing
[01:03] <IamEthos> I'm using Breezy, I installed Firefox 1.5 using the method described in the wiki
[01:03] <IamEthos> and I just installed Flash
[01:03] <gnomefreak> h0nus: mirror max backports have ben trashed for 6 months
[01:03] <frank23> h0nus: those repos probably don't exist anymore
[01:04] <gnomefreak> !backports
[01:04] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[01:04] <IamEthos> however I thinkit installed for the OLD firefox
[01:04] <h0nus> frank23: so how do i fix that?
[01:04] <Newbieeee> I burned with Nero A bootable disc...
[01:04] <__mikem> Yup, like I said. My dad is too optomistic, I am about the only one who thinks realisticly in the family
[01:04] <ened__> is there a way i can make ubuntu allow multiple applications to use the sound card? right now whenever an application using sound is running, anything else that relies on sound doesn't work ?
[01:04] <soundray> __mikem: no, it doesn't. But my download looks promising re. it being an actual Ubuntu image.
[01:04] <frank23> h0nus: go to manage repositories and remove all the backports lines
[01:04] <redguy> Newbieeee: please read the link ubotu sent you
[01:04] <soundray> So, false alarm.
[01:04] <Joetheodd> !lart Seveas
[01:04] <redguy> Newbieeee: you have to boot an image
[01:04] <__mikem> I see
[01:05] <__mikem> My brother grew up with redhat, he was alive when linux first came out and was a "charter user" of sorts
[01:05] <h0nus> frank23: where do i find manage repositories?
[01:05] <Juhaz> __mikem, how about this: stop the mindless zealotry and let your dad use whatever he likes
[01:05] <h0nus> i haven't changed that since install
[01:05] <NigelS> __mikem: and you *weren't* alive then? :P
[01:05] <twirpie> --mikem check pm
[01:05] <__mikem> I was, but I was a baby
[01:05] <frank23> h0nus: in synaptic Settings->Repositories
[01:06] <__mikem> o well, we better cut this out, people are getting annoyed
[01:06] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:06] <soundray> __mikem: the md5sum is correct on my download, too.
[01:06] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:06] <redguy> Newbieeee: ern, burn, not boot, sorry
[01:06] <Lawrence1111> Hello again all :)
[01:06] <NigelS> I like the way though the people who get annoyed never actually help anyone, they just idle in the channel until they feel like they can make the bot do something :P
[01:06] <c0llin> when i do apt-get install apt-build, it says Couldn't find package apt-build
[01:06] <__mikem> soundray, I winder whats going to happen when we finally get him to boot the cd
[01:07] <Lawrence1111> Earlier I had a question, which I didn't see an answer for so I'd like to ask again:  Would someone please point me to the docs for configuring sound as well as avi files with dapper drake 6.06? No matter what repositories I select or what codecs that seem required for .mp3 playback I install, as an example, nothing works with Rhythmbox ... and no videos with the exception of MPEG videos...
[01:07] <Lawrence1111> ...work with Totem. Thank you !
[01:07] <NewbRyan> Whats with this restricted format deal? i updated my repositories and tried to install the  gstreamer0.8-mad package and i still cant play all my mp3's
[01:07] <ened__> is there a way i can make ubuntu allow multiple applications to use the sound card? right now whenever an application using sound is running, anything else that relies on sound doesn't work ?
[01:07] <soundray> __mikem: isn't it, erm, interesting that Nero apparently generates a bootable CD using DR-DOS?
[01:07] <redguy> c0llin: apt-build is in the universe repository
[01:08] <__mikem> ubotu tell NewbRyan about mp3
[01:08] <redguy> !tell c0llin about universe
[01:08] <markitoxs> hi there
[01:08] <__mikem> NewbRyan look at the pm from ubotu
[01:08] <NigelS> Lawrence1111: you should really ask dapper questions in ubuntu+1 also have you followed the restricted formats guide?
[01:08] <NewbRyan> __mikem i followed it
[01:08] <markitoxs> can anyone here, help me make Fyre work?
[01:08] <__mikem> interesting
[01:08] <CrocoJet> does anyome have idea how to change port21 to other .. in pure-ftp server ?
[01:08] <ened__> it sucks :/ i can do this in windows without changing anything...
[01:08] <markitoxs> don't know how to fix this
[01:08] <markitoxs> fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:08] <NewbRyan> __mikem: i dont quite understand it, i did what it said and no mp3 play
[01:08] <__mikem> soundray, I am not sure, untill today I never even heard of dr-dos
[01:09] <__mikem> those instructions worked for me
[01:09] <Lawrence1111> Thank you Nigel, I will look in ubuntu+1, and I am not sure about the restricted formats guide... that's why I need to review the docs, if I could locate them. Thank you for your help :)
[01:09] <Firebird8> how do u install fonts?
[01:09] <NewbRyan> __mikem it said that my package was already up to date
[01:09] <redguy> Lawrence1111: well, that's the beauty of dapper. Don't expect things to work out of the box
[01:09] <soundray> __mikem: well, DR-DOS was well before your time.
[01:09] <__mikem> oh
[01:09] <Lawrence1111> OK redguy  :)  Thank you all :)
[01:09] <ened__> is there a way i can make ubuntu allow multiple applications to use the sound card? right now whenever an application using sound is running, anything else that relies on sound doesn't work ? it sucks :/ i can do this in windows without changing anything.
[01:10] <__mikem> NewbRyan, it shouldn't be doing that
[01:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Firebird8 about fonts
[01:10] <NewbRyan> __mikem thats what i thought
[01:10] <markitoxs> I get this error: fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory   I have that library installed, how can i tell fyre where is it?
[01:10] <soundray> ened__: That's what esd is for. You have to configure all sound applications to esd, then it'll be fine.
[01:10] <__mikem> what exactly did you type, what text physically went into the terminal
[01:11] <bburton> NewbRyan, Have you tried easyubuntu http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ?
[01:11] <redguy> ened__: you propably have a crappy soundcard
[01:11] <redguy> !tell ened__ about dmix
[01:11] <duelboot_> NewbRyan:  just joining...did you fix your sound problem?
[01:11] <NewbRyan> bburton nope
[01:11] <redguy> ened__: follow the instructions ubotu sent you, maybe this will help you
[01:11] <nismo> how do i get the extra repositories??
[01:11] <NewbRyan> duelboot_ almost
[01:11] <redguy> !tell nismo about repos
[01:11] <nismo> thanks
[01:12] <NewbRyan> duelboot_ there is no stero sound
[01:12] <duelboot_> NewbRyan: so you have mono?
[01:12] <spuddogg> anyone know how to install the FTP client that comes with ubuntu?
[01:12] <h0nus> frank23: i am trying to use "./configure" to install a program, and there are packages it is not finding that synaptic says are installed
[01:12] <duelboot_> NewbRyan: any sound?
[01:12] <markitoxs> I get this error: fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory   I have that library installed, how can i tell fyre where is it?
[01:12] <redguy> spuddogg: which ftp client?
[01:12] <NigelS> h0nus: most often you'll need the *-dev variants
[01:12] <frank23> h0nus: you always the -dev  packages to compile stuff. what is it you're compiling?
[01:12] <NewbRyan> duelboot_: i have sound on the right side only
[01:12] <NigelS> h0nus: which contain the actual development libs
[01:12] <ened__> redguy: i don't think it has anything to do with the soundcard. it works fine in windows. but i'll try the instructions you sent
[01:12] <__mikem> speaking of sound problems, I have my creative muvo2 connected to a single sony pc speaker and am listening to it right now
[01:12] <spuddogg> redguy, i dont remember what its called...i had it before though in my internet list
[01:12] <twirpie> i got mirc running with wine but i got this too ----> wine /home/hb80/Polaris-se/mirc32.exe
[01:12] <twirpie> fixme:edit:EDIT_EM_FmtLines soft break enabled, not implemented
[01:12] <twirpie> fixme:winsock:WSACancelAsyncRequest (0xdeaf),stub
[01:12] <twirpie> fixme:winsock:WSACancelAsyncRequest (0xdeaf),stub
[01:12] <twirpie> fixme:mci:MCI_LoadMciDriver Couldn't load driver for type L"MIRCWAV".
[01:12] <twirpie> If you don't have a windows installation accessible from Wine,
[01:13] <Lawrence1111> NigelS: Thank you!  I couyld not reply with a PM :)
[01:13] <TANATHOS> markitoxs : what command did you type?
[01:13] <twirpie> you perhaps forgot to create a [mci]  section in system.ini
[01:13] <twirpie> fixme:mci:MCI_LoadMciDriver Couldn't load driver for type L"MIRCMID".
[01:13] <twirpie> If you don't have a windows installation accessible from Wine,
[01:13] <twirpie> you perhaps forgot to create a [mci]  section in system.ini
[01:13] <markitoxs> TANATHOS, just fyre
[01:13] <twirpie>  anyone understand this? :(
[01:13] <__mikem> ubotu tell twirpie about pastebin
[01:13] <NigelS> ened__: it easily could be if the soundcard is crap HW and relies on windows software to make it seem like it works :)
[01:13] <h0nus> frank23: i am trying to compile hydra, which is a security test tool
[01:13] <duelboot_> NewbRyan: what program did you use to get there?  I just fixed my sound
[01:13] <Hexidigital> !tell twirpie about pastebin
[01:13] <TheFaction20> what are some of the other distros you guys have used, and why did u choose ubuntu out of the rest?
[01:13] <BobC2> WOW just loaded Ubuntu (first ever Linux) entered the Ubuntu servers and here I am!!!
[01:13] <Lawrence1111> Excuse me all, and thank you again :)
[01:13] <frank23> h0nus: ok.
[01:13] <TANATHOS> markitoxs - that message means there is a librarie required that you don't have
[01:13] <twirpie> sorry sorry :(
[01:13] <bburton> BobC2, Welcome.
[01:13] <__mikem> BobC2, has the linux camp won you over
[01:13] <duelboot_> BobC2: which version?
[01:13] <BobC2> TYhanks bburton
[01:13] <markitoxs> TANATHOS,  i got it, the problem is that fyre does not know where is it
[01:14] <NewbRyan> duelboot_: i think i disabled the sound sever then restared and enabled it and then it worked
[01:14] <NigelS> BobC2: welcome
[01:14] <redguy> ened__: well, that's because the manufacturer of your soundcard provided drivers for windows which do software mixing. dmix should help you
[01:14] <gnomefreak> h0nus: once you unpack the tar please read the README or INSTALL file(s) for needed libraries
[01:14] <BobC2> Thanks mike and duelboot
[01:14] <duelboot_> NewbRyan: okay cause you can use alsamixer to fix it...
[01:14] <BobC2> Geeeees thanks guys!
[01:14] <gnomefreak> h0nus: also run sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:14] <twirpie> anyone understand it?
[01:14] <c0llin> redguy: i dont see apt-build in the repositories
[01:14] <TheFaction20> NigelS:i havent been able to make any progress with the issue
[01:14] <soundray> NewbRyan: no, you killed a hung program that hogged the sound by rebooting :)
[01:14] <__mikem> yw, once you learn the basics, linux can be fun and painless
[01:14] <redguy> !info apt-build
[01:14] <nismo> that was easy :)
[01:14] <ubotu> apt-build: (frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.12.9 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[01:14] <BobC2> lemme see which version,,,,,?
[01:14] <NewbRyan> thats it
[01:14] <h0nus> gnomefreak: i went through the readme, but parts of it were confusing as i am new to linux
[01:14] <BobC2> How do I look?
[01:14] <redguy> c0llin: it is in the repos as you can clearly see
[01:15] <__mikem> I recomend christopher negus's Linux Bible as the definitive refference for linux
[01:15] <soundray> NewbRyan: did you say you get intermittent stereo by tugging ong the plug?
[01:15] <soundray> *on
[01:15] <redguy> c0llin: it is in the universe repo. do you have it enabled?
[01:15] <duelboot_> BobC2: what does the CD state?  5.04, 5.10?
[01:15] <NigelS> TheFaction20: this is from Breezy install?
[01:15] <markitoxs> does anyone know how to solve my wine problem? I t takes literally 5-10 min to load, anything
[01:15] <gnomefreak> h0nus: you can try sudo apt-get build-dep hydra
[01:15] <soundray> __mikem: definitive reference? Use the source code, man :)
[01:15] <gnomefreak> but i dont think hydra is in repos :( not sure though
[01:15] <TheFaction20> NigelS: yes with the external usb drive that will be recognized then dc from error
[01:15] <__mikem> oh, would if I knew where it was
[01:15] <redguy> !find hydra
[01:15] <h0nus> gnomefreak: my build-essential is up-to-date, will try build-dep hydra
[01:15] <NewbRyan> soundray: yes, but it was still the right side. what i mean is while sound came out of both speakers when i moved the balance to the left i lost sound completly
[01:15] <NigelS> hydra that most...err..white hat of tools :P
[01:16] <duelboot_> gnomefreak: hello there
[01:16] <BobC2> Duelboot oh! I was helped to dnld it from th4r net and burned my own CD
[01:16] <gnomefreak> hi duelboot_
[01:16] <NewbRyan> soundray you following me on that one?
[01:16] <soundray> NewbRyan: I'd like to see a screenshot of your alsamixer.
[01:17] <NewbRyan> ok
[01:17] <c0llin> redguy: i see apt, apt-doc, aptitude, apt-listchanges, apt-utils
[01:17] <frank23> h0nus: build-dep won't work because there is no hydra package in ubuntu repos
[01:17] <gnomefreak> thats what i thought :(
[01:17] <__mikem> soundray, how did the newbieee situation go
[01:17] <markitoxs> I get this error: fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory   I have that library installed, how can i tell fyre where is it?
[01:17] <duelboot_> soundray:  know why I can run alsamixer and not alsamixergui:  Can't open display
[01:17] <h0nus> gnomefreak: this seems to be working... how can i ensure that i am always using *-dev versions?
[01:17] <twirpie> can someone help me with setting mirc up to run with wine?
[01:17] <redguy> c0llin: open a terminal and do 'sudo apt-get install apt-build'
[01:17] <gnomefreak> h0nus: its working?
[01:17] <h0nus> gnomefreak: i did not see any error messages
[01:18] <rufsketch1> argh!
[01:18] <redguy> twirpie: why on earth would you want to run mirc??
[01:18] <duelboot_> BobC2: enter uname -r and tell me what it says
[01:18] <gnomefreak> h0nus: did it install anything?
[01:18] <rufsketch1> i need serious help
[01:18] <soundray> NewbRyan: can you choose a small terminal font, maximize the window, press PrintScrn and paste the screenshot on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org pls
[01:18] <Hexidigital> twirpie, why dont you just use Xchat or Gaim?
[01:18] <rufsketch1> i cant get blender to run
[01:18] <Hexidigital> imo it's easier
[01:18] <rufsketch1> could someone help?
[01:18] <duelboot_> soundray ^^^^
[01:18] <twirpie> because they dont do what i want
[01:18] <h0nus> gnomefreak: it says unpacking and setting up
[01:18] <soundray> __mikem: last I knew he was reading burniso from ubotu :)
[01:18] <__mikem> lol, ok
[01:18] <__mikem> brb dinner
[01:18] <twirpie> i have my own script
[01:18] <gnomefreak> h0nus: ok good i think
[01:18] <NigelS> TheFaction20: which hard disk did you install to?
[01:18] <BobC2> duelboot_ in the terminal?
[01:18] <rufsketch1> can anyone help me to get blender to run?
[01:18] <c0llin> redguy: Reading package lists... Done
[01:18] <c0llin> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:18] <c0llin> E: Couldn't find package apt-build
[01:18] <duelboot_> yes
[01:19] <BobC2> ok
[01:19] <h0nus> gnomefreak: should i try "./configure" again for hydra?
[01:19] <TheFaction20> NigelS:im wanting to install it on the external.
[01:19] <gnomefreak> c0llin: iirc apt-build is intalled by default
[01:19] <redguy> c0llin: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[01:19] <NigelS> TheFaction20: ah, here we have a communication issue.  I asked if you have installed it already
[01:19] <gnomefreak> h0nus: yes try ./configure
[01:19] <redguy> gnomefreak: no, it's in universe
[01:19] <rufsketch1> _jason do you think you could help?
[01:19] <frank23> h0nus: run ./configure over and over till it completes successfuly
[01:19] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[01:19] <soundray> duelboot_, start alsamixergui from the dialog you get with Alt-F2
[01:19] <c0llin> redguy: pastebin?
[01:19] <NewbRyan> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10873
[01:19] <gnomefreak> lol frank23
[01:19] <redguy> !tell c0llin about pastebin
[01:19] <_jason> rufsketch1: what happens when you try?
[01:20] <Hexidigital> can someone give me 3 good reasons i should not delete my windows xp installation, and use the space for storage?
[01:20] <rufsketch1> it just wont start
[01:20] <Hexidigital> :)
[01:20] <markitoxs> I get this error: fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory   I have that library installed, how can i tell fyre where is it?
[01:20] <rufsketch1> neither will tux racer
[01:20] <_jason> Hexidigital: nope
[01:20] <redguy> c0llin: read what ubout sent you
[01:20] <rufsketch1> i think it's any 3D program
[01:20] <PistolPedro> Hexidigital, use it for storage
[01:20] <duelboot_> soundray:  it worked, why can't I do it from terminal?
[01:20] <twirpie> so can anyone help?
[01:20] <duelboot_> soundray:  forgot the thx
[01:20] <_jason> rufsketch1: did you install video drivers?
[01:20] <rufsketch1> i followed the nvidia instructions ubotu gave me
[01:20] <Hexidigital> _jason, i can only think of 1... Civ 4 not runnable on wine
[01:20] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: sounds like your 3d isnt working
[01:20] <[1] Cooner750> Ok. It still wont go past "Setting up ALSA card 0 ........ OK". The one before that is "Configuring network interface", but ot never says OK or anything
[01:20] <rufsketch1> lol, i figured
[01:20] <BobC2> duelboot_ 2.6.12-10-386
[01:20] <bburton> NewbRyan, I like your wallpaper
[01:20] <TheFaction20> NigelS: oh, yeah im trying to get it on the external but like when i ran the install disc earlier i couldnt see my external in the partitino stage. so i came on the live cd(still on it) and started trying to figure it out
[01:20] <rufsketch1> any clue as to how to ge it working?
[01:20] <bburton> 8-)
[01:20] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: did you install nvidia settings and nvidia xgl?
[01:21] <rufsketch1> glx
[01:21] <redguy> twirpie: I would advise you to learn the native IRC clients. mIRC is full of security holes
[01:21] <rufsketch1> yeah
[01:21] <NewbRyan> haha, yeah wrong image
[01:21] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: both
[01:21] <frank23> twirpie: I think wine can run mirc. never tried it though. I don't know if there is a linux irc client that can run mIRC scripts
[01:21] <duelboot_> BobC2...you ran update already?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:21] <rufsketch1> yeah
[01:21] <h0nus> gnomefreak: i am still missing "SAP/R3 (librfc/saprfc.h)" and "libssh (libssh/libssh.h"
[01:21] <gnomefreak> yeah
[01:21] <rufsketch1> both
[01:21] <h0nus> gnomefreak: can i get both of these using apt-get?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: did you run the enable command?
[01:21] <NewbRyan> soundray: was that any help?
[01:21] <rufsketch1> the enable command?
[01:21] <[1] Cooner750> What do I do?
[01:21] <BobC2> duelboot_ haad 72 updates and I did that ..why?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> h0nus: you have build-essential?
[01:21] <rufsketch1> you mean apply?
[01:21] <twirpie> well guess ill figure it out on my own then :(
[01:21] <soundray> NewbRyan: I can't see any fault with your setup. Have you tested your hardware with another OS?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: no i mean the enable command something like nvidia-glx-conf enable
[01:22] <duelboot_> BobC2...just wondering if you had Breezy (latest stable version)
[01:22] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[01:22] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:22] <h0nus> gnomefreak: when i enter "apt-get install build-essential" it returns "build-essential is up to date"
[01:22] <NewbRyan> soundray: it works in windows
[01:22] <rufsketch1> ok
[01:22] <markitoxs> I get this error: fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory   I have that library installed, how can i tell fyre where is it?
[01:22] <rufsketch1> ill try it
[01:22] <joevandyk> Anyone know why sound seems to be broken in Dapper?
[01:22] <BobC2> duelboot_ It says breezy somewhere
[01:22] <gnomefreak> h0nus: ok also make sure you have the src repos
[01:22] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: wait
[01:22] <soundray> NewbRyan: I was afraid you would say that :(
[01:22] <rufsketch1> do i need to be sudo?
[01:23] <rufsketch1> ok..
[01:23] <joevandyk> sound worked in breezy and dapper test 5, but broken in the latest kernel update
[01:23] <gnomefreak> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable   rufsketch1 theres the command
[01:23] <c0llin> redguy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10874
[01:23] <h0nus> gnomefreak: "sudo apt-get install src" ?
[01:23] <rufsketch1> ok
[01:23] <rufsketch1> thnx
[01:23] <NigelS> TheFaction20: hmm, you see the live CD has had some issues over time, so I'm loathe to make judgements now based on a failure in it - one possible option I saw was to modprobe -r the ehci module, you could try that, though tbh I really don't know why that would be the fault
[01:23] <duelboot_> BobC2:  welcome again...hope you enjoy it...here's why I asked...there's a great program called Automatix you can install and run and it'll add many great apps for you
[01:23] <gnomefreak> h0nus: nope
[01:23] <h0nus> =(
[01:23] <NewbRyan> soundray: would you have rather me said OSX?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell h0nus abotu easysource
[01:23] <crimsun> joevandyk: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[01:23] <markitoxs> does anyone know how to solve my wine problem? I t takes literally 5-10 min to load, anything
[01:23] <NigelS> TheFaction20: in any event - I think there is a HOWTO somewhere on the forum about installing to an external USB drive
[01:23] <rufsketch1> Warning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.
[01:23] <rufsketch1> In order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to
[01:23] <rufsketch1> be restarted.
[01:23] <venox> 5-10 min? wow, it's damn fast for wine!
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell h0nus about easysource
[01:24] <venox> lo, just kidding
[01:24] <markitoxs> venox, lol
[01:24] <venox> *lol
[01:24] <duelboot_> BobC2  read about it here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[01:24] <__mikem> ok back
[01:24] <BobC2> duelboot_ Thanks I gotta say I'm very IMPRESSED so far..but LOTS to learn
[01:24] <markitoxs> venox, it's quite strange, that happens since I updated version
[01:24] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: yes you might also have to config xserver
[01:24] <soundray> NewbRyan: no, I'd rather had you admit you are using some wonky soundcard :)  You are set to surround btw. Let's try this:
[01:24] <redguy> c0llin: remove the # at the beggining of the following lines: 20, 21, 36, 37
[01:24] <crimsun> NewbRyan: got a pastebin url to your current amixer settings?
[01:24] <NigelS> TheFaction20: specifically have a read through this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[01:24] <venox> markitoxs: hmm, what application are you trying to run?
[01:24] <ened__> in freebsd i used to do hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=4 and the multiple sound problem was fixed... but i cant seem to find a way to do this in linux... i couldn't get the aoss stuff to work :s
[01:24] <soundray> NewbRyan: Change Surround from Independ to Shared and see how it goes.
[01:25] <crimsun> ened__: use plug:surround40
[01:25] <markitoxs> venox, anything...
[01:25] <redguy> !tell c0llin about universe
[01:25] <redguy> !tell c0llin about repos
[01:25] <TheFaction20> NigelS:yeah...i saw that. i read the posts and there was talk of issues in trying to bring the drive over to another pc and how it recognized it being a wrong port
[01:25] <__mikem> BobC2 what you got to realize is, all that stuff microsoft says about open source software being inferior, its all lies, lies i tell you
[01:25] <redguy> c0llin: also, you might want to read what ubotu sent you
[01:25] <gnomefreak> duelboot_: never i mean _NEVER_ say that in here again
[01:25] <NewbRyan> crimsun: how to i check the settings?
[01:25] <TheFaction20> NigelS;something to that effect
[01:25] <h0nus> gnomefreak: ok lemme see here...
[01:25] <crimsun> NewbRyan: ``amixer -c0'' in a Terminal/console
[01:25] <gnomefreak> duelboot_: automatix will not me suggested to anyone in here
[01:25] <NewbRyan> soundray, i think i tried that but im doing it again
[01:25] <crimsun> NewbRyan: (presuming you only have 1 sound chipset)
[01:25] <duelboot_> gnomefreak:  hit a nerve, eh?
[01:25] <redguy> c0llin: after changing these lines run sudo apt-get update and then you will be able to install apt-build
[01:25] <NigelS> TheFaction20: you tried following those steps?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> s/me/be
[01:25] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[01:25] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[01:25] <joevandyk> crimsun, Mixers:
[01:25] <joevandyk> 0: SigmaTel STAC9200
[01:25] <rufsketch1> w
[01:26] <duelboot_> gnomefreak:  I installed it and don't have any issues (yet)
[01:26] <rufsketch1> what do i config xserver to?
[01:26] <BobC2> __mikem lol I'm an Amiga head No fan of MicroSloth lol
[01:26] <crimsun> joevandyk: I broke it in 19.29; it's already fixed in 20.30
[01:26] <markitoxs> venox, i tried also deleting the .wine folder, butu did not work either, does not matter what i load, photoshop, any installer, any simulation program,
[01:26] <PistolPedro> duelboot, that program is terrible
[01:26] <ened__> crimsun: i don't understand
[01:26] <gnomefreak> duelboot_: you dont we fix its screw ups everyday
[01:26] <TheFaction20> NigelS:i became a lil skeptical after reading that and the grub issues some have had
[01:26] <markitoxs> venox, 2 days ago it worked perfect
[01:26] <joevandyk> crimsun, is there anything I can do now?
[01:26] <venox> hm
[01:26] <venox> that's strange
[01:26] <crimsun> joevandyk: not at the moment.
[01:26] <venox> try downgrading to the older version
[01:26] <duelboot_> BobC2:  you in reston?
[01:26] <__mikem> bobc2, I had no idea people still used amigas
[01:26] <rufsketch1> gnome_freak what do i config xserver to?
[01:26] <h0nus> gnomefreak: my install disk is ubuntu 5.04, but i have run "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" so i should be at 5.10 now correct?
[01:26] <TheFaction20> NigelS:in not being able to load xp or w/e they were previously usin
[01:26] <gnomefreak> duelboot_: warning you can be banned for sugesting it
[01:26] <rufsketch1>  gnomefreak what do i config xserver to?
[01:27] <joevandyk> crimsun, i tried updating to 2.6.16 and it's still not working.
[01:27] <markitoxs> venox, how? i installed it through the update-manager
[01:27] <NewbRyan> soundray: not working
[01:27] <gnomefreak> h0nus: i dont know do you have breezy repos?
[01:27] <rufsketch1> and how
[01:27] <frank23> h0nus: no you're still running 5.04.
[01:27] <BobC2> duelboot_ reston?
[01:27] <joevandyk> crimsun, (just fyi)
[01:27] <venox> hmmm, I don't know how to downgrade it :$
[01:27] <crimsun> joevandyk: of course, 2.6.16 has a similar (though not precisely identical) issue
[01:27] <frank23> !upgrade2breezy
[01:27] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:27] <redguy> !tell h0nus about upgrade
[01:27] <venox> but, I'm pretty sure people here know how to downgrade a package :P
[01:27] <duelboot_> gnomefreak:  okay, okay, I get it...have an issue with GTK, know anything?  I'll look for the error
[01:27] <markitoxs> venox, and about my fyre program, any idea?
[01:27] <joevandyk> crimsun, oh, ok.  any chance you could summarize the issue?
[01:27] <venox> fyre program?
[01:27] <BobC2> __mikem new Amiga OS now
[01:27] <NewbRyan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10875
[01:27] <markitoxs> I get this error: fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory   I have that library installed, how can i tell fyre where is it?
[01:27] <redguy> markitoxs: did you install it from the repositories?
[01:27] <h0nus> ok 5.04 according to repos
[01:27] <venox> well
[01:27] <crimsun> joevandyk: the initial codec registers are wrongly set in both. Again, fixed in our kernel 20.30, which should be available sometime in the next week.
[01:27] <markitoxs> um
[01:27] <markitoxs> yep
[01:27] <markitoxs> through apt
[01:28] <c0llin> redguy: thanks
[01:28] <redguy> c0llin: np
[01:28] <duelboot_> BobC2:  oops, I mean NC
[01:28] <gnomefreak> h0nus: you need to change the word hoary for the word breezy whereever its listed inside your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak ? any you there?
[01:28] <venox> if you really have libcairo installed, you might have a libcairo.so* (or something like that) on your /usr/lib
[01:28] <redguy> markitoxs: hmm, well this sounds like a bug then
[01:28] <joevandyk> crimsun, ok, i'll wait patiently.  is there any chance i could test that kernel before it's released?
[01:28] <NigelS> TheFaction20: read it in context, what problems with grub? were these actual problem problems or just people who didn't understand how to alter their config file?
[01:28] <venox> you can just symlink it ln -s /usr/lib/libcairo.so /usr/lib/libcairo.so.1
[01:28] <NewbRyan> soundray: that didnt work
[01:28] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: yes
[01:28] <venox> it might work :P
[01:28] <h0nus> gnomefreak: all of my repos say 'hoary'
[01:28] <BobC2> duelboot_ Oh yes I am..you can see that?
[01:28] <markitoxs> i got
[01:28] <markitoxs> libcairo.so.2
[01:29] <gnomefreak> h0nus: if you want breezy you need to make them read breezy
[01:29] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak, what do i config x to?
[01:29] <markitoxs> not .1
[01:29] <crimsun> ened__: e.g., aplay -Dplug:surround40 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[01:29] <philstar> what would be the license status of a piece of software released without a license? (it looks like only part of the archive is source)
[01:29] <venox> hm
[01:29] <venox> symlink it to .1
[01:29] <markitoxs> oks
[01:29] <Kr4t05> Eekk
[01:29] <h0nus> gnomefreak: do i want breezy?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: first try this glxgears --printfps
[01:29] <crimsun> joevandyk: sec, I'll have to check
[01:29] <joevandyk> crimsun, also, in case you know, is there a chance that support for accelerated / direct rendering for the Intel 945GM will be in ubuntu's kernel sometime?
[01:29] <duelboot_> BobC2 yes right click on your name then select your name again
[01:29] <venox> and it might work, I'm not sure it's the best way, but it will work hehe
[01:29] <gnomefreak> h0nus: i dont know do you (i would)
[01:29] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to get a Logitech Gamepad to work?
[01:29] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak: what will that do?
[01:29] <h0nus> gnomefreak: is there any significant difference between hoary and breezy?
[01:29] <markitoxs> um
[01:29] <markitoxs> now it's another libreary...
[01:29] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: will print your fps so i can see if you have 3d
[01:30] <markitoxs> fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libpixman.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:30] <gnomefreak> h0nus: yes
[01:30] <gnomefreak> breezy ids newer
[01:30] <gnomefreak> is*
[01:30] <BobC2> duelboot_ ahhh TYghanks..very nice!
[01:30] <h0nus> ok
[01:30] <crimsun> joevandyk: support has been merged, not ETA on the remaining bits for 945
[01:30] <venox> is libpixman1-dev installed?
[01:30] <soundray> NewbRyan: sorry -- I'm fresh out of ideas... maybe crimsun can help you crack it.
[01:30] <duelboot_> BobC2: check your private msg from me
[01:30] <TheFaction20> NigelS: ill have to get back to u on that haha....i was a lil imitated with the 34 pages of replies
[01:30] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak: this is what i get
[01:30] <rufsketch1> rufsketch1@ubuntu:~$ glxgears --printfps
[01:30] <rufsketch1> Warrning: unknown parameter: --printfps
[01:30] <rufsketch1> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:30] <rufsketch1> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[01:30] <crimsun> joevandyk: no, there aren't any daily kernels currently available.
[01:30] <NewbRyan> soundray: ok thanks alot
[01:30] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: all i need is the nubers at the end of the lines
[01:30] <BobC2> duelboot_  geeeees private msg!  lol
[01:30] <frank23> markitoxs: did you install fyre from the ubuntu repository?
[01:30] <NewbRyan> crimsun: did that paste bin give you any insight?
[01:31] <markitoxs> frank23, yes
[01:31] <joevandyk> crimsun, you mean "no ETA"?  and thanks for checking on the builds
[01:31] <rufsketch1> i dont get any numbers gnomefreak, just that message
[01:31] <crimsun> joevandyk: yes.
[01:31] <CyberGuardian> Heyllo
[01:31] <NigelS> TheFaction20: it's hardly ever worth reading the replies hehe
[01:31] <h0nus> gnomefreak: how do i change my repos to read breezy?
[01:31] <CyberGuardian> Is theer a kubuntu channel?
[01:31] <crimsun> NewbRyan: yes. I'm just trying to type four different things, so it takes me a bit to respond
[01:31] <frank23> CyberGuardian: yes #kubuntu
[01:31] <crimsun> NewbRyan: are you actually using the digital output?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: glxgears -printfps
[01:31] <redguy> rufsketch1: don't paste in here
[01:31] <joevandyk> crimsun, it's the agpgart support that I'm interested in.  If I don't have that, then the video memory is limited to 8MB.
[01:31] <gnomefreak> CyberGuardian: #kubuntu
[01:31] <rufsketch1> lol, ok, sorry
[01:32] <NewbRyan> crimsun: nope, take your time thougg
[01:32] <duelboot_> gnomefreak:  duelboot_ *begs to be taken off the bad list*
[01:32] <markitoxs> venox, just installed it
[01:32] <BobC2> duelboot_ where?  I looked can't see it yet?
[01:32] <NigelS> TheFaction20: a bigger problem would be if there was no BIOS change you could make to get the installer to see your USB drive in the first place.  But there's no reason linux shouldn't be able to see it.
[01:32] <duelboot_> BobC2, you in XChat?
[01:32] <__mikem> I love kde, but I could never get it to run in higher screen resolutions
[01:32] <crimsun> NewbRyan: then you need to mute 'IEC958'
[01:32] <crimsun> NewbRyan: amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[01:32] <BobC2> duelboot_ Yes
[01:32] <markitoxs> venox, installed it, and works perfect
[01:32] <duelboot_> look under where you type...you should see a tab with my nick...click on it
[01:32] <markitoxs> thx
[01:32] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak :Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:32] <rufsketch1> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[01:32] <venox> ;)
[01:33] <NewbRyan> crimsun: done
[01:33] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrr
[01:33] <TheFaction20> NigelS:im prob jumping into the thought of install too fast. theres so many things that i dont know how to get to.  like the menu.lst which some have posted to get some help with GRUB
[01:33] <redguy> rufsketch1: don't paste in here
[01:33] <frank23> markitoxs: I get the same problem. this is obviously a bug. compiling it from source would probably work
[01:33] <crimsun> NewbRyan: are you [also]  attempting to get 4-speaker output?
[01:33] <rufsketch1> y not redguy?
[01:33] <markitoxs> frank23, it is solved by installing that library
[01:33] <markitoxs> libpixmap1-dev
[01:33] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure the driver is set to nvidia (or nv) if nvidia doesnt work
[01:33] <NigelS> TheFaction20: it's just a file in /boot/grub
[01:33] <NewbRyan> crimsun: left right middle and sub
[01:33] <rufsketch1> ok
[01:34] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: you will have to restart X after
[01:34] <NigelS> TheFaction20: the installer should detect your windows install anyway - it's odd if it misses it I think
[01:34] <crimsun> NewbRyan: then you also need to unmute  'Duplicate Front', 'Surround', 'Center', and 'LFE'
[01:34] <NigelS> TheFaction20: though it's not like I reinstall every day so I can forget details :)
[01:34] <h0nus> gnomefreak: i would be upgarding to dapper, which may break?
[01:34] <TheFaction20> NigelS:also what is grub exactly...is it just something to choose what os u want to boot?
[01:34] <NewbRyan> crimsun: how? in alsamixer?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> h0nus: upgradde to breezy not dapper
[01:34] <rufsketch1> what should i set for the identifier gnomefreak?
[01:34] <rufsketch1> does it matter?
[01:34] <h0nus> ok
[01:34] <crimsun> NewbRyan: the level of 'Surround' also needs to be increased
[01:34] <frank23> markitoxs: ok
[01:35] <NigelS> TheFaction20: it's a boot loader - Grand Re-Unified Bootloader to be exact
[01:35] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: i havent been in there for a while please give me more to go on
[01:35] <TheFaction20> NigelS:whats a bootloader? haha
[01:35] <NewbRyan> crimsun: they are muted, how do i unmute them?
[01:35] <^Odd^> !sources
[01:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:35] <crimsun> NewbRyan: amixer sset 'Duplicate Front' on && amixer sset 'Surround' on && amixer sset 'Center' on && amixer sset 'LFE' on
[01:35] <NigelS> TheFaction20: it boot straps the OS of your choice, LILO is another option though GRUB is better/safer/more recoverable from errors
[01:35] <joevandyk> crimsun, is there a way I could patch the 2.6.16 kernel to get sound working?
[01:35] <^Odd^> i figured out why my agp dosen't work anymore
[01:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ^Odd^ abotu msg the bot
[01:35] <TheFaction20> NigelS:o haha
[01:35] <Ahewes> NewbRyan: man alsamixer
[01:36] <crimsun> joevandyk: perhaps, I don't track 2.6.16
[01:36] <^Odd^> ubuntu updated the kernal a few monthes ago and the support broke for my bord
[01:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ^Odd^ about msg the bot
[01:36] <ugen64> hello
[01:36] <rufsketch1> The X server configuration file associates your video card with a name that you may provide.  This is usually the vendor or brand name followed  by the model name, e.g., "3Dfx Voodoo3" or "ATI Rage Fury Maxx".  Enter an identifier for your video card.
[01:36] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak
[01:36] <Ahewes> NewbRyan: M toggles muting
[01:36] <markitoxs> frank23, hope it helped
[01:36] <ugen64> this is a very newbish question, considering i've successfully installed linux 5-6 times in the past
[01:36] <NewbRyan> ok
[01:36] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1:what card do you have?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> put it in there
[01:37] <NickGarvey> no newbish questions only newbish people ;)
[01:37] <NewbRyan> crimsun still only the right side works
[01:37] <ugen64> but... what's the best way to partition my HD? should i use fdisk with a knoppix liveCD or something?
[01:37] <truz24> so is "make" not supposed to be included by default in dapper?
[01:37] <ugen64> heh :P
[01:37] <rufsketch1> i have a 6100 GPU integraded grafix
[01:37] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: check lspci for more info on it
[01:37] <TheFaction20> NigelS:how long did u use the livecd version before u installed or did u just jump right into install
[01:37] <NickGarvey> ugen64: I like using the gparted cd
[01:37] <rufsketch1> i have a 6100 GPU integraded grafix
[01:37] <patrick52222> can i have the link to restricted formats
[01:37] <crimsun> NewbRyan: which chipset do you have? (cat /proc/asound/cards)
[01:37] <gnomefreak> truz24: make isnt included in ubuntu by default
[01:37] <ugen64> i also need that one ntfs utility that allows you to move "unmovable" files that defragmenter refuses to move
[01:37] <BobC2> __mikem go here for the Latest On the Amiga OS http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/
[01:37] <ugen64> because i have this chunk of "unmovable" files at the end of my drive
[01:37] <__mikem> ok
[01:37] <NigelS> TheFaction20: I've used linux for years - when ubuntu first made a live CD it wasn't that impressive - so I did just install yeah
[01:38] <gnomefreak> truz24: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:38] <rufsketch1> gnome freak
[01:38] <rufsketch1> i have a 6100 GPU integraded grafix
[01:38] <TheFaction20> ah
[01:38] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak
[01:38] <joevandyk> crimsun, Thanks for all your work!  (and if you could convey to whoever is in charge of doing the kernel stuff that the 945GM support would be awesome, that would be great)
[01:38] <NigelS> TheFaction20: before this I used debian as my main desktop OS - now I still use debian but it's on servers I use
[01:38] <crimsun> joevandyk: Ben already knows about it, but it's not precisely high priority
[01:38] <TheFaction20> NigelS:should i have my external formatted a certain file type? or is fat32 ok?
[01:38] <NewbRyan> crimsun: im not sure, its onboard and its intel
[01:38] <rufsketch1> should i type that in? or it doesnt matter
[01:38] <NickGarvey> pagefile you mean ugen64?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: lspci will tell you everything about it you need to put it in there as the example shows
[01:38] <patrick52222> can i have the link to restricted formats
[01:38] <crimsun> NewbRyan: what's the output from the command I gave you?
[01:38] <ugen64> NickGarvey, probably
[01:38] <hatake_kakashi> !tell patrick52222 about mp3
[01:38] <NewbRyan> which command?
[01:38] <patrick52222> cheers
[01:39] <crimsun> NewbRyan: the one in parentheses
[01:39] <joevandyk> crimsun, Ok, I understand.  A lot of newer laptops use that chipset, and it's nice to be able to have accelerated X.
[01:39] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: yes it matters alot rufsketch1 make sure if you have onboard vc it is disabled
[01:39] <ugen64> NickGarvey, will the GParted liveCD work well enough - i just want to format about 5GB of my drive as ext3 and keep the rest
[01:39] <__mikem> interesting, but it doesn't say anything about obtaining it
[01:39] <NewbRyan> 0 [ICH5           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH5
[01:39] <NewbRyan>                      Intel ICH5 with ALC850 at 0xf8001000, irq 17
[01:39] <NigelS> TheFaction20: the install will guide you on this, it can format it - it won't like fat32 though really - i.e. traditional choices are ext3 (nowadays) or reiserfs mainly, and you are best off having a seperate / (root) and /home partition
[01:39] <__mikem> and I can't see any screen shots
[01:39] <NickGarvey> ugen64: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
[01:39] <joevandyk> crimsun, I'm willing to help test/build as well.
[01:39] <crimsun> NewbRyan: is this a fresh install of Breezy?
[01:39] <NewbRyan> crimsun yes
[01:39] <mivecz> how i  make  a ubuntu boot  floppy disk
[01:39] <mivecz> ?
[01:39] <NigelS> TheFaction20: having them separate means that you can nuke your / partition for a reinstall but not lose your personal data and settings in /home/<user>
[01:39] <NickGarvey> ugen64: GParted also uses Ntfsresize internally.
[01:40] <NickGarvey> ugen64: so yes
[01:40] <ugen64> ah ok
[01:40] <ugen64> thanks, this should be easy enough
[01:40] <NickGarvey> :)
[01:40] <crimsun> NewbRyan: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' only work out of the right speaker?
[01:40] <mivecz> how i  make  a ubuntu boot  floppy disk?
[01:40] <BobC2> __mikem Yes We are waiting for new hardware
[01:40] <TheFaction20> NigelS: yeah....so like in the install i could have it reformat my external with a partition in ext3 file type? and leave the rest to another?
[01:40] <truz24> gnomefreak, 1) It used to be included by default because i've never had to install it before 2) I just ran sudo apt-get install make to install it...
[01:40] <NewbRyan> crimsun, only the right
[01:41] <BobC2> __mikem Go here for screen shots amigaworld.net and more, a portal
[01:41] <brenner> mivecz: why would you?
[01:41] <crimsun> NewbRyan: please mute 'External Amplifier'
[01:41] <NewbRyan> ok
[01:41] <NigelS> TheFaction20: you could have it for example, leave the external with 2 or more partitions both formatted ext3 or reiserfs and with one as the "/" mountpoint and the other as "/home"
[01:41] <linux_amateur> how do I install dhcp ?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> truz24: im not sure about warty but hoary breezy nor dapper have had it by default
[01:41] <mivecz> i dont  like  dual  boot
[01:41] <NewbRyan> crimsun: done
[01:41] <mivecz> so  i want to  dual  from  floppy  how
[01:41] <duelboot_> mivecz: you don't like me?
[01:41] <TheFaction20> NigelS:im kinda lost by the "/" and "/home"
[01:41] <crimsun> NewbRyan: and try aplay again?
[01:41] <duelboot_> haha
[01:42] <CountZ> i'm running ubuntu under vmware and it crashes on boot (live cd, dapper), i'm sure this is a common issue? :)
[01:42] <NewbRyan> only right
[01:42] <CountZ> something about PREEMPT
[01:42] <BobC2> Can anyone tell me how to view .wmv with Ubuntu?
[01:42] <h0nus> brb
[01:42] <brenner> mivecz: not sure if i understand you, but i don't think you can "boot" ubuntu from a floppy
[01:42] <frank23> !tell BobC2 about restricted
[01:42] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak , should i "use kernel framebuffer device interface?"
[01:43] <CountZ> BobC2: There was something on digg.com about an app that loads up your ubunto with all that stuff
[01:43] <rufsketch1> i have an onboard graphic processor.
[01:43] <soundray> !tell BobC2 about w32codecs
[01:43] <VeRiTTo> HI
[01:43] <crimsun> NewbRyan: please mute 'PCM', decrease the volume to 0, unmute it, and increase it to a comfortable level. Do the same for 'Master'.
[01:43] <rufsketch1> it's the only graphics processor i have
[01:43] <BobC2> CountZ OK
[01:43] <rufsketch1> no card
[01:43] <VeRiTTo> HOw Can I use links2?
[01:43] <__mikem> ubotu tell BobC2 about mp3
[01:43] <soundray> CountZ: that program you are refering to can make you very unpopular here when you recommend it.
[01:43] <__mikem> bob if it can be done, the pm from ubotu should point you in the right dirrection
[01:44] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: start with no
[01:44] <CountZ> soundray: I don't even know its name dude
[01:44] <brenner> TheFaction20: / is the root FS.  it will hold all the system files etc.  /home will strore your settings and configs.
[01:44] <rufsketch1> ok
[01:44] <soundray> CountZ: automatix
[01:44] <soundray> !automatix
[01:44] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[01:44] <CountZ> whatever... was just trying to help the guy :-)
[01:44] <BobC2> Oh Now I see the "PM" thanks!
[01:44] <NigelS> TheFaction20: hmm, the install should explain this, but the install docs are your best bet for understanding the proces.. I need to explain the Unix family directory structure to let you know what those do. In brief: everything is a sort of tree with / (root) at the bottom and other things going upwards.  Where each part of the tree is physically stored, e.g. which piece of magnetised ferrous material doesn't matter to the system.  Accordingly each part is mounted
[01:44] <CountZ> I don't know what it is and how it works, I don't use it myself.
[01:44] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak what should i use for the XKB rule set?
[01:44] <NewbRyan> crimsun, ok, still only have 1 speaker
[01:44] <__mikem> don't mention it
[01:44] <gnomefreak> suggest easyubuntu instead of automatix please
[01:45] <soundray> CountZ: I know, it's a trap. Currently the views on it here aren't very relaxed ;)
[01:45] <CountZ> gnomefreak: ok
[01:45] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: whatever its set on
[01:45] <TheFaction20> NigelS:o okay lol
[01:45] <rufsketch1> ok
[01:45] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: the defaults should be fine till the end now
[01:45] <Joetheodd> !lart soundray
[01:45] <BobC2> Looks like Duelboot left?
[01:45] <nismo> I have a Lexmark X1150 printer that cant print, can someone help me?
[01:45] <djk_> what are redcoloured files in a terminal again? i forgot the standard colouring.
[01:45] <CountZ> soundray: gotcha. good thing you told me that. i'm trying to install ubuntu on an external USB drive at the moment, so I will soon boot into ubuntu and tell windows goodbye... and i'm sure going to try easyubuntu!
[01:45] <rufsketch1> gnome freak
[01:45] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak
[01:45] <TheFaction20> NigelS:do u think itd be easier if i partitioned my external before the install?
[01:45] <Joetheodd> Why won't Ubotu lart people in here? =(
[01:45] <NigelS> Joetheodd: hehe
[01:45] <crimsun> NewbRyan: ok, this might sound stupid, but have you checked whether the speaker connection is snug?
[01:46] <rufsketch1> is this a good configuration?
[01:46] <rufsketch1>  Select the X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default.  
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                                                                                               
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [*]  GLcore                                                      
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[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [*]  ddc                                                         
[01:46] <Joetheodd> ubotu lart me
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [*]  dri                                                         
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [*]  extmod                                                      
[01:46] <CountZ> just to get vmware to boot ubuntu and i'll be on my way...
[01:46] <TANATHOS> rufsketch1 stop it
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [*]  freetype                                                    
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [*]  glx                                                         
[01:46] <__mikem> holly crap stop that
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [*]  int10                                                       
[01:46] <gnomefreak> Joetheodd: lart doesnt work in here please feel free to lart soundray in ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [ ]  record                                                      
[01:46] <NickGarvey> !PASTE
[01:46] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [*]  type1                                                       
[01:46] <__mikem> Joetheodd lart doesn't work
[01:46] <soundray> CountZ: good luck on your USB install
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [ ]  v4l                                                         
[01:46] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: no pasting in here
[01:46] <rufsketch1>                               [*]  vbe
[01:46] <rufsketch1> oops, sorry, lol
[01:46] <NickGarvey> !tell rufsketch1 about paste
[01:46] <rufsketch1> came out larger than i thought
[01:46] <Joetheodd> gnomefreak: Too late.
[01:46] <CountZ> thanks
[01:46] <nismo> I have a Lexmark X1150 printer that cant print, can someone help me?
[01:46] <NewbRyan> crimsun: yes, so many times
[01:46] <rufsketch1> sorry sorry
[01:46] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: and thats fine
[01:46] <redguy> rufsketch1: I told you two times already
[01:46] <solid_liq> where can I find e17 packages for ubuntu?
[01:46] <Joetheodd> np rufsketch1
[01:46] <NigelS> TheFaction20: if I were you, I'd make sure the installer can even see the USB drive first -as for easier...hmm yes in honesty it might be because the installer isn't very graphical and a graphical partioner is a helpful aid to visualising how much space you're setting aside
[01:46] <solid_liq> !e17
[01:47] <soundray> Joetheodd: shall I join *-offtopic, so you can tell ubotu to lart me there? :)
[01:47] <kuja> e17 == enlightenment?
[01:47] <joevandyk> crimsun, patches for the 945GM chipset support for 2.6.15 are on launchpad.  Would Ben know about those?
[01:47] <Joetheodd> soundray sure.
[01:47] <grumbel> I am having throuble with Geforce2MX and tv out, instead of proper picture I only get noise/flicker/etc., configuration itself should be correct (very basic, sets resolution to 800x600 and Vert/HorzRefresh rates to proper values), same config worked on debian system, any ideas?
[01:47] <crimsun> joevandyk: bug #?
[01:47] <Newbieeee> soundray ,mikem,redguy I started UBUNTU...ThX ...now ...I start the real "Computing"...
[01:47] <solid_liq> kuja: yeah
[01:47] <TheFaction20> NigelS:in that case do u know of any partion software i can find for free?
[01:47] <Joetheodd> * ubotu urinates on soundray
[01:47] <kuja> solid_liq: apt-cache search enlightenment
[01:47] <Joetheodd> Good game soundray
[01:47] <alerim> hi
[01:47] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: please see #enlightenment for the site with the instructions
[01:47] <NigelS> TheFaction20: you dont need to bother formatting first though, the installer will do that for you
[01:47] <NigelS> TheFaction20: oh if you dont have any then just use the installer :)
[01:47] <ibob63> I am trying to find some headsets for podcasting. Does anyone have any recommendations?
[01:47] <rufsketch1> ok gnomefreak
[01:47] <crimsun> NewbRyan: please do the following in a Terminal: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[01:48] <solid_liq> k thx
[01:48] <redguy> Newbieeee: yay! you scared us for a while with the dr-dos thing
[01:48] <rufsketch1> i set the xsever to nvidia
[01:48] <rufsketch1> should i restart?
[01:48] <rufsketch1> xserver*
[01:48] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: restart X
[01:48] <joevandyk> crimsun, 35742, 35739, and 35741
[01:48] <rufsketch1> ok
[01:48] <lupz> hello
[01:48] <nismo> anyone ?
[01:48] <rufsketch1> brb
[01:48] <PistolPedro> soundray, lol
[01:48] <alerim> I just upgraded to Dapper and now my monitor HSync and VSync are ignored and set to a default value(?) when I use the "nvidia" driver. Anyone experienced this trouble?
[01:48] <lupz> is it possible to install only the kernel package compiled for 64bit ?
[01:48] <NewbRyan> crimsum: ok
[01:48] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[01:48] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:49] <Newbieeee> redguy I Used ISORecorder...and that|s why is working ...
[01:49] <alerim> hum well sorry
[01:49] <redguy> nismo: did you check if it's supported on http://www.linuxprinting.org/ ?
[01:49] <NewbRyan> crimsum: still not doing it
[01:49] <TheFaction20> NigelS: haha. okay.  any places you suggest i visit so i can like become familiar with some things i should def become familiar with? or any books u might have used?
[01:49] <CountZ> ok I get a kernel panic loading ubuntu dapper under vmware :-(
[01:49] <nismo> oh ok thanks
[01:49] <redguy> Newbieeee: you can burn iso images with nero too
[01:49] <gnomefreak> CountZ: #ubuntu+1 please
[01:49] <sethrd> Anyone know a HOWTO on USB mice?
[01:49] <CountZ> gnomefreak: thanks
[01:50] <solid_liq> !breezy
[01:50] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:50] <Newbieeee> redguy i tried and it didn|t worked...
[01:50] <solid_liq> !hoary
[01:50] <ubotu> hoary is, like, totally, a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[01:50] <mivecz> gnomefreak can u  help mwe  if i can  make a boot  floppy disk
[01:50] <mivecz> ?
[01:50] <NewbRyan> how does one run easy ubuntu after installing it?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> sethrd: i had to config mine in xserver-xorg
[01:50] <sethrd> gnomefreak: So do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> mivecz: noone that i have heard has made one
[01:50] <Joetheodd> !bot abuse
[01:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, bot abuse is cool
[01:50] <gnomefreak> sethrd: yeah make sure its set to usb
[01:50] <mivecz> ok
[01:51] <NigelS> TheFaction20: ok - the linux documentation project (tldp.org) is one good source of info; obviously the ubuntu docs are good too :)
[01:51] <joevandyk> What's the package that installs the source for a kernel?
[01:51] <sethrd> gnomefreak: The thing is, Ubuntu's device manager sees the mouse.
[01:51] <brenner> ubotu: tell alerim about xorg
[01:51] <crimsun> joevandyk: Ben has already applied #35742
[01:51] <nismo> well redguy, i have a x1150 and they dont seem to have anything there referring to that specific printer
[01:52] <joevandyk> crimsun, nice!
[01:52] <NickGarvey> !thiswillfail
[01:52] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[01:52] <crimsun> NewbRyan: please pastebin amixer again
[01:52] <NigelS> TheFaction20: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html is the starter guide
[01:52] <NickGarvey> !spam
[01:52] <ubotu> spam is, like, Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages, or the pork luncheon meat who's name is the acronym of Shoulder of Pork and hAM
[01:52] <gnomefreak> sethrd: is it just listed on left and no info on right for it?
[01:52] <alerim> brenner: it seems to be related to dapper as I didn't have this problem before, but thanks :)
[01:53] <redguy> nismo: then there is a high chance that it is not supported. You might contact lexmark support and ask them the printer can work in linux
[01:53] <sethrd> gnomefreak: No, it tells me what kind of mouse it is and all.
[01:53] <djk_> what are redcoloured files in a terminal? i forgot, but think simlinks
[01:53] <gnomefreak> mine doesnt even do that :(
[01:53] <nismo> hmmm. thanks
[01:53] <gnomefreak> but mine works
[01:53] <redguy> nismo: or with cups (common unix printing system) to be more specific
[01:53] <BobC2> soundray, __mikem, CountZ thanks for the info...This is a very nice place!
[01:53] <Joetheodd> Computers are line air conditioners. Windows make them not work.
[01:54] <gnomefreak> sethrd: i would try the xserver command if mouse isnt working
[01:54] <NewbRyan> crimsum: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10876
[01:54] <__mikem> yw
[01:54] <joevandyk> crimsun, and #35739, right?
[01:54] <nismo> cups? how might i be able to do that?
[01:54] <joevandyk> crimsun, I thought #35739 was already in the dapper kernel.
[01:54] <crimsun> joevandyk: doesn't appear in the changelog
[01:54] <NewbRyan> how do you run easy ubuntu after you install it?
[01:55] <brenner> djk_: try: file <filename>
[01:55] <joevandyk> hm... the i810 driver does have support for the 945GM chipset... perhaps it's under a different bug number.
[01:55] <nismo> damn my internet just had a stroke
[01:56] <crimsun> joevandyk: meaning the X server?
[01:56] <nismo> How do i update firefox , the one that came with ubuntu seems to be outdated
[01:56] <crimsun> NewbRyan: notice that you need to redo the steps you did before (muting, etc.)
[01:56] <redguy> nismo: ask lexmark people if the printer will work with cups
[01:57] <NewbRyan> crimsun: im very sorry, i dont even remember what that was
[01:57] <joevandyk> crimsun, err, not sure what you mean.  The comments on #35739 seem to indicate that the bug was fixed (and the bug was that the i810 driver didn't support 945GM)
[01:57] <brenner> nismo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:57] <nismo> thanks
[01:58] <soundray> NewbRyan: just key arrow up to see the commands you entered before.
[01:58] <revartj> i have to problem with SDL-graphy
[01:58] <crimsun> joevandyk: I don't track the X Window System packages, either
[01:58] <NewbRyan> crimsun sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[01:58] <NewbRyan> ?
[01:59] <joevandyk> crimsun, Sorry if I'm annoying, but you wouldn't happen to have a patch for the sound issue?  I'm starting to build a new kernel that adds in the 945GM patch, and it would be great if I could test the sound as well.
[01:59] <revartj> I can not see very colors
[01:59] <crimsun> NewbRyan: mute 'IEC958'; unmute 'Surround', 'LFE', 'Center'
[01:59] <NewbRyan> crimsun: ok thanks
[01:59] <revartj> somebody know something
[01:59] <revartj> hi
[02:00] <BigNewbie> hello
[02:00] <brenner> revartj: er, this isn't really an SDL channel...
[02:00] <NeverDream> what's the sound device on breezy?
[02:00] <redguy> !tell Firebird8 about away
[02:01] <NewbRyan> crimsun: ok, its still not working
[02:01] <NewbRyan> crimsun, i want to give up soon
[02:01] <ubuntu> hi
[02:02] <crimsun> NewbRyan: ok, I'll need a register dump from /proc/asound/card0
[02:02] <revartj> brenner, help me
[02:02] <crimsun> NewbRyan: pastebin the contents of every file in that directory
[02:02] <revartj> please
[02:02] <brenner> ubuntu: welcome.  you might want to change your nick
[02:02] <crimsun> joevandyk: revisions 1.2[01]  of http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/alsa/alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c
[02:02] <ubuntu> HI ALL IN ROOM
[02:03] <joevandyk> crimsun, great, i'll try it out
[02:03] <crimsun> joevandyk: keep in mind that you may need additional patches for .16, since I don't know what was pushed to Linus
[02:03] <sethrd> gnomefreak: Ok, so the mouse DOES work. I'm able to right click and open menus, but I can't move the mouse.
[02:03] <gnu2it2> what do you need to loginto a remote gdm session/server?
[02:03] <chuckyp> gnu2it2: vnc
[02:03] <joevandyk> crimsun, I'm going to build 2.6.15
[02:03] <ubuntu>   
[02:04] <chuckyp> !tell gnu2it2 about vnc
[02:04] <NewbRyan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10877 i dont know if thats waht you wanted
[02:04] <revartj> what do you need to saw full colooru with SDL
[02:04] <crimsun> joevandyk: vanilla .15, or "our" .15?
[02:04] <chuckyp> joevandyk: why its already built iwth dapper.
[02:04] <TANATHOS> !tell me about bird
[02:04] <crimsun> NewbRyan: hang 5 mins, I need to reboot
[02:04] <joevandyk> crimsun, "our" .15
[02:04] <revartj> helppppp
[02:04] <TANATHOS> !tell me about htb
[02:04] <sethrd> Ok guys. I have a USB mouse, and it is seen by Ubuntu, at least according to the Device Manager. I can right click to open context menus, but I can't move it. Anyone care to help?
[02:04] <crimsun> joevandyk: no, don't do that, it won't apply cleanly
[02:04] <joevandyk> crimsun, doh, ok.
[02:04] <NewbRyan> crimsin ok
[02:05] <crimsun> joevandyk: you should check out our git tree and build from there
[02:05] <crimsun> joevandyk: //wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide
[02:05] <gnomefreak> sethrd: thats strange i know mine (without a pad) has issues moving sometimes i have to kind of forcfully move it (the curser)
[02:05] <crimsun> NewbRyan: ok, back in a bit.
[02:06] <sethrd> gnomefreak: Well I'll be...
[02:06] <sethrd> gnomefreak: *cough*
[02:06] <sethrd> gnomefreak: Figured that since it was optical, I didn't need one.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> lol yeah me too
[02:06] <NewbRyan> crimsun ok
[02:06] <gnomefreak> sethrd: it sticks in corners and crap
[02:06] <gnomefreak> mine does atleast
[02:06] <NewbRyan> I downloaded easy ubuntu and i dont know how to run it does anyone have exp with it?
[02:07] <rufsketch1> urgh, no luck gnomefreak
[02:07] <__mikem> Seveas, I just PMed you, please respond?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> i have 30 pads downstairs just havent brought one up for it yet :(
[02:07] <soundray> NewbRyan: crimsun wanted the contents of all those files
[02:07] <sethrd> gnomefreak: Ok, now my X is messed up, so I need to fix that. For some reason, when using transparent terminals now, there are little white blocks in the background. And no, I don't have a background image.
[02:07] <rufsketch1> xserver wont start under nv or nvidia
[02:07] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: make sure your onboad vc is disabled
[02:07] <Joetheodd> __mikem: Seveas is probably getting laid or something. In any case, he's not here.
[02:07] <rufsketch1> whats onboard vc?
[02:08] <__mikem> lol
[02:08] <joevandyk> crimsun, thanks!  Didn't know about that.  So, I use git pull to get the sources, and then use make-kpkg to build and install a kernel?
[02:08] <__mikem> good for him
[02:08] <gnomefreak> onboard video card
[02:08] <NewbRyan> soundray: i have to look in every folder?
[02:08] <Joetheodd> rufsketch1: Video (graphics) card built into mobo
[02:08] <NewbRyan> soundray: or is there a way to list it?
[02:08] <nismo> Sorry for asking this but for the firefox installation it tells me to move the TAR into the opt folder, how do i do that?
[02:08] <rufsketch1> the onboard video card is all i have gnomefreak
[02:08] <rufsketch1> integrated geforce6100
[02:08] <soundray> NewbRyan: run this: 'for i in /proc/asound/card0/* ; do echo $i ; cat $i ; done' and paste the output on the site as before.
[02:08] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh ok rufsketch1 than in that case all the defaults in xserver-xorg should have worked fine
[02:08] <joevandyk> crimsun, errr. get clone to get the sources.
[02:08] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: except the drivers part
[02:08] <birdfish> What command would I issue in order to see all of the users configured on the system and their settings?
[02:08] <rufsketch1> but they didnt...
[02:09] <birdfish> Or is there a file or something?
[02:09] <rufsketch1> if i select nvidia or nv xserv doesnt work
[02:09] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: what is it set on now?
[02:09] <eyequeue> birdfish, "less /etc/passwd"   but what "settings"?
[02:09] <rufsketch1> vesa
[02:09] <NewbRyan> soundray: done
[02:09] <brenner> nismo: mv <tarfile> /opt
[02:09] <nismo> thanks
[02:09] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak its set on vesa
[02:09] <gnomefreak> ok rufsketch1 try glxgears -printfps again please
[02:09] <rufsketch1> ok
[02:10] <__mikem> birdfish don't type that what ever you do
[02:10] <birdfish> eyequeue: I'm trying to figure out what user was assigned to my MySQL installation
[02:10] <NewbRyan> soundray: do you know anything about this easy ubuntu, somone told me about it a little while ago and i download it but i dont know how to run it
[02:10] <NeverDream> anyone know how to get sound in vlc working?
[02:10] <birdfish> mikem: :P thanks
[02:10] <rufsketch1> same as last time
[02:10] <sethrd> Fixed it
[02:10] <eyequeue> birdfish, debian-sys-maint, you mean?
[02:10] <NewbRyan> soundray: i installed linux like less then three days ago, i really have no clue what im doing
[02:10] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak
[02:10] <joevandyk> crimsun, are your sound fixes in the git repository?
[02:10] <rufsketch1> same outcome as last time
[02:10] <soundray> NewbRyan: that paste is good, crimsun will tell you if he needs more.
[02:10] <birdfish> eyequeue: I'm unsure :P
[02:11] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: im not sure please consult the guide on the wiki im gonna look at it in a min also
[02:11] <eyequeue> birdfish, or if you want to see which mysql-users there are so far, there is a table in the "mysql" database
[02:11] <gnomefreak> sethrd: what was it?
[02:11] <crimsun> joevandyk: yes, all my changes are marked by my e-mail (crimsun at ubuntu.com / fungus.sh.nu) or my name (Daniel T. Chen)
[02:11] <rufsketch1> ok... :(
[02:11] <nismo> hmm it says that there is no such file or directory brenner
[02:11] <birdfish> eyequeue: I'm just trying to set up the database
[02:11] <soundray> NewbRyan: easyubuntu competes with automatix, so I reckon it's just a script that you run.
[02:11] <sethrd> gnomefreak: I just replaced the xorg that dpkg-reconfigure made.
[02:11] <soundray> NewbRyan: haven't tried it myself.
[02:11] <sethrd> gnomefreak: Mouse still works and all.
[02:11] <crimsun> NewbRyan: it'll be a few more minutes before I can look, waiting on my system
[02:12] <NewbRyan> soundray, it is but i dont know how to run it
[02:12] <eyequeue> birdfish, i'm not a mysql guru, someone else should chime in, just was answering about generic ubuntu users at first there
[02:12] <NewbRyan> crimsun ok, no hurry
[02:12] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[02:12] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[02:12] <birdfish> Okay :)
[02:12] <joevandyk> crimsun, Ok.  And I should use make-kpkg to build and install a kernel?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: you are using breezy right?
[02:13] <soundray> NewbRyan: does it not say on the site? It could be 'sh script' or 'chmod 700 script ; ./script'
[02:13] <brenner> nismo: just copy the command it gives you
[02:13] <NewbRyan> soundray: its like a program with a gui
[02:13] <rufsketch1> yes
[02:13] <Xnos> hi... is there a app on linux like peer2mail?
[02:13] <nismo> i did
[02:13] <djk_> how do i make an iso of a dvd?
[02:13] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak
[02:13] <rufsketch1> breezy
[02:13] <gnomefreak> ok continue sorry
[02:13] <brenner> nismo: the # means it's a comment.  you're supposed to use the line below it
[02:14] <sethrd> gnomefreak: Now I'm on to getting DRI working on my Radeon 7500 Mobility.
[02:14] <nismo> im aware of that
[02:14] <gnomefreak> sethrd: good luck on that
[02:14] <sethrd> gnomefreak: Yeah, I know.
[02:14] <nismo> it gives me 4 errors though
[02:14] <neo911> whats the command to clear the arp cache? thx
[02:14] <sethrd> gnomefreak: Thansk though.
[02:14] <rufsketch1> also, my sound doesnt work gnomefreak
[02:14] <NeverDream> can anyone help me get the sound working in vlc?
[02:14] <NewbRyan> soundray: if you care to look at it, though i dont think it would help tou much http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[02:14] <rufsketch1> which is also onboard
[02:14] <sethrd> gnomefreak: I don't know why I'm doing all this though. I'm getting a more Linux friendly laptop in about a month anyway.
[02:14] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: did you install the linux-restricted-mods?
[02:14] <nismo> 1 tells me that the file does not exist (it does its in the desktop and in the tmp folder)
[02:15] <brenner> nismo: what does?
[02:15] <rufsketch1> yeah
[02:15] <nismo> terminal
[02:15] <rufsketch1> from the tut ubotu gave me
[02:15] <gnomefreak> sethrd: this way you know for later :)
[02:15] <nismo> No such file or directory when im lookin right at it! brenner
[02:15] <brenner> nismo: which line?! :)
[02:15] <nismo> er... the first
[02:15] <soundray> NewbRyan: the instructions are on http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html -- I'd try it myself, but the svn server seems to be down atm.
[02:15] <sethrd> gnomefreak: This is true. The system I'm going to get is a Dell 600m. It's got a Radeon 9000, so I figure it is more or less the same steps. *shrug* Learning is always run though.
[02:15] <brenner> nismo: i.e. what comand are you doing?
[02:15] <nismo> tar: firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[02:16] <nismo> sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz
[02:16] <nismo> thats the command im usin
[02:16] <nismo> straight from wiki.ubuntu
[02:16] <brenner> nismo: ok.  that's saying it can't find the tar file
[02:16] <brenner> nismo: are you in ~/Desktop ?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> sethrd: i ran out and bought a nvidia card because ati and radeon support is yucky
[02:16] <nismo> i know its saying thta, but the tar file is in the desktop and /tmp
[02:16] <rufsketch1> hmmm
[02:16] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak
[02:17] <eyequeue> does ff use gz rather than bz2?
[02:17] <rufsketch1>  i think i'll try installing the 686 kernel
[02:17] <nismo> hmm
[02:17] <sethrd> gnomefreak: I'm on a laptop, so getting a new video card isn't exactly as easy as buying a new one. Besides, I'm an ATI fanboy.
[02:17] <brenner> nismo: yes, but you have to run that command in the dir where the tar file is
[02:17] <nismo> oh ok
[02:17] <NewbRyan> soundray: im in the easy ubuntu channle asking for help now
[02:17] <green_earz>  djk_: you can put the vob file into k3b burning. or look at  mkisofs or dvdbackup
[02:17] <nismo> but prior to that it tells me to move the file to /opt
[02:17] <jensenb> _mikem, this is baibbas...I solved the problem...I added XP to the menu.lst file and then after I got into XP I added the XP partition and linux partition to boot magic...problem solved!
[02:17] <gnomefreak> sethrd: thats true
[02:18] <IlToNtO> there is an italian??
[02:18] <_jason> !it
[02:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:18] <eyequeue> !it
[02:18] <eyequeue> oops
[02:18] <IlToNtO> ok thanks
[02:18] <brenner> nismo: i cant see that line.  all i see is "extract tar into /opt" which is what the command below it does
[02:19] <NeverDream> I'm getting a message from vlc that it can't open /dev/dsp for oss... can anyone help me fix this?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> rufsketch1: im out of ideas as long as the restricted-mods are for your arch and you have nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx installed it should work are we sure thats a 3d card? i ask cause my ati that said 3d was not a 3d card
[02:19] <nismo> darn
[02:19] <nismo> how do i open a terminal in a folder, im used to kubuntu were i just right click, how do i do it on ubuntu
[02:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell nismo about terminal
[02:20] <soundray> NeverDream: 'sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss', then try again
[02:21] <nismo> i c
[02:21] <IlToNtO> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[02:21] <NeverDream> soundray: it still doesn't work :S
[02:21] <IlToNtO> this is my problem when i write modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:21] <rufsketch1> yes im sure.  it's fully 3D in windows
[02:22] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak
[02:22] <soundray> NeverDream: same error?
[02:22] <sethrd> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20050528 AGP 1x TCL
[02:22] <sethrd> Is that right?
[02:22] <rufsketch1> gnomefreak , sound doesnt work on it either.  a google search shows other have had similar problems with this gpu
[02:22] <NeverDream> soundray, yes
[02:23] <soundray> NeverDream: when you enter "groups" on a line by itself, is "audio" in the list?
[02:23] <crimsun> joevandyk: you can, or you can debuild binary after removing the unnecessary configs
[02:23] <crimsun> NewbRyan: back
[02:23] <occy> howdy peeps.... I have a user, the main user, on my Ubuntu system. I want to change the username to be something different.  how can I do this?
[02:24] <occy> crimsun: heyaz, ltns :)
[02:24] <crimsun> hey occy
[02:24] <sethrd> Anyone know if this looks right for DRI? "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20050528 AGP 1x TC"
[02:24] <nismo> ok
[02:24] <NewbRyan> crimsun: on my paste bin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10878
[02:24] <occy> crimsun: I'm going over to the dark side... Got an iMac...
[02:24] <occy> heh
[02:24] <crimsun> occy: slick
[02:24] <NeverDream> soundray, yeah. xmms and flash give me sound, but not vlc :/
[02:24] <Bowsa> anyone know how i can get wine to work
[02:24] <crimsun> NeverDream: install vlc-plugin-alsa, then choose the alsa output in vlc's preferences
[02:25] <occy> trying to get this laptop setup for my wife.
[02:25] <soundray> NeverDream: was there an error on the sudo modprobe?
[02:25] <occy> need to change my user name to be what she uses.
[02:25] <nismo> so how do i move the mozilla tar into opt
[02:25] <NeverDream> soundray, nope
[02:25] <brenner> sethrd: MESA is software rendering iirc
[02:25] <__mikem> Do you think your wife is ready for linux
[02:25] <IdleOne> !tell nismo about ff1.5
[02:25] <occy> __mikem: she's been using Linux for over 7 years
[02:25] <__mikem> oh, ok
[02:25] <occy> __mikem: I'd say she's ready
[02:25] <occy> heh
[02:26] <NeverDream> lol
[02:26] <occy> course, all she does is browse the web and check email.
[02:26] <djk_> occy: time for her to get to know the kitchen ;)
[02:26] <nismo> ive followed that idle one
[02:26] <occy> djk_: heh
[02:26] <nismo> im not able to move firefox to /opt
[02:26] <soundray> NeverDream: when you ls -l /dev/dsp, the result should be similar to "crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-03-21 08:39 /dev/dsp" -- ist that correct?
[02:26] <sethrd> brenner: So, is it right?
[02:26] <occy> sooo... noone knows how to change a user's username?
[02:26] <brenner> nismo: i still don't see anything that says to move it into /opt
[02:26] <occy> :/
[02:26] <crimsun> NewbRyan: actually you only descended one level with your command. I need what's in /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0, too
[02:26] <__mikem> lol @ djk_
[02:27] <NeverDream> soundray, yes
[02:27] <nismo> its right after the download links, right before the #extract
[02:27] <eyequeue> occy, typically one creates a new user and deluser's the old
[02:27] <nismo> install it to /opt/firefox
[02:27] <joevandyk> crimsun, debuild binary?
[02:27] <occy> eyequeue: I don't want to have to fark with the configs and junk.
[02:27] <occy> eyequeue: I have this user setup perfect
[02:27] <crimsun> joevandyk: you need devscripts installed
[02:27] <brenner> sethrd: glxinfo | grep rendering
[02:28] <__mikem> brb
[02:28] <NewbRyan> crimsun, im sorry what is the command to list all that?
[02:28] <sethrd> brenner: It says yes, but I've read of people getting 1200+ in glxgears, where I'm lucky to get over 500.,
[02:28] <nismo> !
[02:28] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nismo
[02:28] <IdleOne> nismo, read the message you got from ubotu
[02:28] <djk_> occy: usermod -l user.. but check the syntax again
[02:28] <nismo> i did idle
[02:28] <gnomefreak> sethrd: i get 2000
[02:28] <brenner> nismo: exactly..."Install it to /opt/firefox:"  ... note the colon
[02:28] <occy> k
[02:28] <nismo> puta
[02:28] <sethrd> brenner: Besides the scores, because I know they aren't a benchmark, I get slow redraws on desktop.
[02:28] <nismo> well even i after i do the sudo it doesnt owrk
[02:28] <soundray> NewbRyan: adapted from above: 'for i in /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/* ; do echo $i ; cat $i ; done'
[02:29] <nismo> No such file or directory
[02:29] <occy> hmm
[02:29] <nismo> ive been telling you that for about 10 minutes now lol
[02:29] <brenner> nismo: ok.  where is the tar file?
[02:29] <nismo> ...
[02:29] <moonman> !ubotu .mp3
[02:29] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, moonman
[02:29] <brenner> sethrd: if it's an ati card.  have you tried fglrx?
[02:29] <_jason> !mp3
[02:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:29] <nismo> ive told you that too, i said its in tmp and the desktop
[02:30] <moonman> _jason, thanks.
[02:30] <sethrd> brenner: I don't have that...
[02:30] <brenner> nismo: ok, open a terminal
[02:30] <nismo> k
[02:30] <brenner> ubotu: tell sethrd about ati
[02:30] <NewbRyan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10879
[02:30] <NewbRyan> soundray: thanks
[02:30] <brenner> nismo: cd ~/Desktop
[02:31] <nismo> what is cd for
[02:31] <brenner> nismo: change directory
[02:31] <soundray> NewbRyan: something seems to be missing at line 118
[02:31] <brenner> ~/Desktop is equivalent to /home/<username>/Desktop
[02:32] <NewbRyan> soundray: could it be the problem?
[02:32] <sethrd> brenner: I can't use the binary because I have a 7500 Mobility.
[02:32] <soundray> NewbRyan: try again please, pasting only the output from the last command.
[02:32] <nismo> hm
[02:32] <nismo> no such file or directory
[02:32] <nismo> double u tee eff
[02:32] <dabaR> sishi slonu
[02:33] <duelboot_> soundray...can you assist?  I have sound out, but can't get my mic to work
[02:33] <brenner> nismo: paste the full error
[02:33] <_jason> nismo: make sure you put capital D
[02:33] <barktpolar> Does Ubuntu's Site have a RSS Feed
[02:33] <davidmoore83> hi
[02:33] <NeverDream> soundray, it worked :) thanks a lot B)
[02:33] <davidmoore83> anyone seen my issues with my new install on the forum?
[02:33] <nismo> k
[02:34] <NewbRyan> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10880 better?
[02:34] <nismo> oknxt
[02:34] <brenner> nismo: now run that sudo command
[02:34] <davidmoore83> ?
[02:34] <soundray> NewbRyan: yes. We just have to make sure crimsun knows about the latter one.
[02:34] <nismo> ok after the sudo command i get a list of commands
[02:34] <djk_> davidmoore83: yea, everyone's been checking it all night long..
[02:35] <duelboot_> can anyone help me with an audio problem?  I have audio out, but no mic capability
[02:35] <greg> hi
[02:35] <soundray> duelboot_: have you seen the wiki stuff on sound?
[02:35] <soundray> !sound
[02:35] <ubotu> hmm... sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[02:35] <davidmoore83> so anyone any ideas then?
[02:35] <brenner> djk_: heh
[02:35] <duelboot_> soundray:  no, am looking now
[02:35] <NewbRyan> crimsun: here is the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10880
[02:35] <djk_> brenner: sarcasm is your friend ;)
[02:35] <brenner> nismo: they're not commands.  it's listing the stuff it's extracting from the archive
[02:35] <davidmoore83> yh but sarcasm isnt helpful!
[02:36] <crimsun> NewbRyan: sec, I'm on the phone.
[02:36] <djk_> davidmoore83: neither is such a question
[02:36] <NewbRyan> crimsun, no hurry
[02:36] <nismo> no no no
[02:36] <brenner> davidmoore83: just tell us the problem
[02:36] <soundray> davidmoore83: at least it tells you something was the matter with your question ;)
[02:36] <nismo> it tells me usage : sudo etc etc etc
[02:36] <brenner> davidmoore83: or give us the url
[02:36] <h0nus> what is NFS?
[02:36] <brenner> davidmoore83: we don't have time to go hunting
[02:37] <nismo> lol doing this for kubuntu was so simple lol
[02:37] <davidmoore83> clean install on a shuttle SD31P with 945G chipset. No hardware is detected in device manager and HD light is constantly on
[02:37] <eyequeue> Network File System, a means of "sharing" directories across machines
[02:37] <soundray> !nfs
[02:37] <ubotu> from memory, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:37] <davidmoore83> even my CPU isnt detected
[02:37] <brenner> nismo: pastebin the error
[02:37] <barktpolar> and what does ubuntu update when connected to the internet
[02:37] <davidmccabe> Hi folks. Is kernel 2.6.16 going to be released for breezy within the breezy time frame? I'm wondering whether it's worthwhile to build it now, or whether I should wait for it to be released.
[02:37] <nismo> there was no error
[02:37] <h0nus> eyequeue: thanks =)
[02:37] <eyequeue> barktpolar, "update" typically means "go fetch an updated list of packages"
[02:38] <soundray> davidmccabe: it won't be built for breezy.
[02:38] <Bowsa> anyone know how i could get wine to run
[02:38] <davidmccabe> soundray: thanks.
[02:38] <_jason> ...
[02:38] <eyequeue> h0nus, np
[02:38] <barktpolar> as in new versions?
[02:38] <brenner> nismo: obviously there was if it's telling you about sudo usage
[02:38] <nismo> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[02:38] <nismo> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[02:38] <nismo>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[02:38] <davidmoore83> any ideas guys?
[02:38] <barktpolar> If it means that, then I can wait till DD comes out and upgrade ubuntu to that
[02:38] <eyequeue> barktpolar, new versions, new packages if any, security patches, basically
[02:38] <davidmccabe> Next question: Are there any important changes from the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto if I am building a newer kernel directly from kernel.org?
[02:38] <Bowsa> anyone in here use wine
[02:38] <mtbordman20> sup
[02:39] <Bowsa> sup
[02:39] <eyequeue> barktpolar, --> security patches <--  that's the reason it's recommended to update often
[02:39] <RemyLaptop> hi, anyone know a good GUI based SCP prog for linux ?
[02:39] <brenner> nismo: and what command did you use?
[02:39] <Bowsa> nuttin
[02:39] <barktpolar> Do they Take long to download via dial-up
[02:39] <davidmccabe> RemyLaptop: I believe that nautilus can use scp.
[02:39] <Bowsa> chillin
[02:39] <davidmoore83> brenner, any ideas mate?
[02:39] <nismo> just sudo
[02:39] <nismo> wait
[02:39] <nismo> puta
[02:40] <Bowsa> trying to get wine to work
[02:40] <eyequeue> barktpolar, typically no, but if course if there are a billion huge packages with holes, that would change
[02:40] <oriktal> Bowsa: I use wine, successfully sometimes
[02:40] <moonman> hah, wine
[02:40] <Bowsa> how do you access wine
[02:40] <eyequeue> barktpolar, the last i recall was in sendmail
[02:40] <crimsun> NewbRyan: stereo works fine in another OS?
[02:40] <Bowsa> once it is installed does it show in the menu
[02:40] <__mikem> I got bejeweled 2 to run under wine before.
[02:40] <davidmoore83> plus brenner and nismo my CPU appears to have 100% cpu usage allllll the time
[02:40] <NewbRyan> crimsun yes
[02:41] <oriktal> install with synaptic, then terminal, wine nameofprog.exe
[02:41] <moonman> Bowsa, like
[02:41] <brenner> davidmccabe: you can run lspci in a terminal for hardware detection.  try running 'top' to see wha't using the HDD
[02:41] <moonman> navigate to the windows file you want to run, then type 'wine whatever.exe'
[02:41] <brenner> davidmccabe: that's not normal.. run 'top'
[02:41] <davidmccabe> davidmoore83, not davidmccabe.
[02:41] <brenner> nismo: puta?
[02:41] <oriktal> Bowsa: run winecfg first
[02:41] <brenner> nismo: just copy and paste the command
[02:41] <nismo> srry
[02:41] <nismo> i did
[02:41] <nismo> its been moved
[02:41] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 2770 (rev 02)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 2771 (rev 02)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27d0 (rev 01)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27c8 (rev 01)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27c9 (rev 01)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27ca (rev 01)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27cb (rev 01)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27cc (rev 01)
[02:42] <nismo> nxt is the rm command i suppose
[02:42] <RemyLaptop> davidmccabe, any ideas how I would go about it ?
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
[02:42] <eyequeue> Seveas, /msg okay?
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27b8 (rev 01)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27df (rev 01)
[02:42] <__mikem> Holly crap, stop
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27c3 (rev 01)
[02:42] <RemyLaptop> !tell davidmoore83 about paste
[02:42] <nismo> ahh stop!
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27da (rev 01)
[02:42] <__mikem> !pastebin
[02:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0092 (rev a1)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 169d (rev 11)
[02:42] <davidmccabe> RemyLaptop: no, not really.
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:03:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
[02:42] <davidmoore83> 0000:03:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[02:42] <nismo> STOP DAVID
[02:42] <__mikem> CUT IT OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[02:42] <davidmoore83> sorry
[02:42] <nismo> no ur not lol
[02:42] <davidmccabe> unfortunately, it's not really possible to stop a paste in mid-paste.
[02:42] <crimsun> davidmccabe: /part will.
[02:43] <johann_> can anyone tell me how to make nautillus start automatically in xubuntu
[02:43] <brenner> davidmoore83: run 'update-pciids'
[02:43] <davidmoore83> take it you all saw it though :)
[02:43] <__mikem> But you have to rejoin
[02:43] <davidmccabe> hmmm, I remember when I accidentally copied my entire xterm scroll buffer into the clipboard; not sure how that happened.
[02:43] <ugen64> well that was easy -_-
[02:43] <davidmccabe> But it was one nasty paste.
[02:43] <__mikem> the problem with xfce is its too hard to customize
[02:43] <ugen64> ubuntu install consisted of me twiddling my thumbs and eating grapefruit for 30 minutes
[02:43] <crimsun> NewbRyan: ok, have you been warm booting?
[02:43] <djk_> crimsun: do you think people who do paste know the /part command? ;)
[02:43] <NewbRyan> crimsun: warm booting?
[02:43] <crimsun> NewbRyan: i.e., no power-down between reboots
[02:43] <brenner> ugen64: must've been a pretty big grapefruit
[02:44] <davidmoore83> brenner, download failed permission denied
[02:44] <davidmoore83> so it needs to be in root right?
[02:44] <ugen64> brenner> well i had some apples too
[02:44] <FLSimpsonR> my display drivers arent right
[02:44] <ugen64> brenner> ;)
[02:44] <NewbRyan> crimsun: no, i colded booted, i even unplugged the thing
[02:44] <brenner> davidmoore83: yes. run it in sudo
[02:44] <Hexidigital> !bootloader
[02:44] <ubotu> Hexidigital: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:44] <FLSimpsonR> how can i fix this?
[02:44] <Hexidigital> !grub
[02:44] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:44] <brenner> w/ sudo rather
[02:44] <ugen64> speaking of sudo... how come i can't su root with a fresh install?
[02:45] <soundray> !tell ugen64 about root
[02:45] <nismo> thanks for the firefox help
[02:45] <crimsun> NewbRyan: are 'Surround', 'LFE', 'Center', and 'Duplicate Front' all unmuted?
[02:45] <davidmoore83> brenner, i cant it asks for a password but nothing i enter is right!
[02:45] <NewbRyan> yep
[02:45] <ugen64> ohh
[02:45] <moonman> mtbordman20, go ahead, ask about .mp3
[02:45] <NewbRyan> crimsun: yep
[02:45] <ugen64> i see
[02:45] <crimsun> NewbRyan: using alsamixer, what is 'Channel Mode' set to?
[02:45] <ugen64> thanks soundray
[02:45] <FLSimpsonR> My system display drivers are not set up right. How do I fix this??
[02:46] <brenner> davidmoore83: entering youre password should be sufdicient
[02:46] <brenner> FLSimpsonR: what's the issue?
[02:46] <NewbRyan> crimsun 2ch
[02:46] <crimsun> NewbRyan: what are the other choices?
[02:46] <davidmoore83> brenner, it isnt the password i used in install doesn't let me in on the 'su' cmd
[02:46] <FLSimpsonR> brenner: not all of my screen is visible
[02:47] <st3v3dnd> How can I stop gnome from thinking it is smarter than me? Right now I have an XML file that has an XML declaration at the top, and a bunch of docbook markup inside. I have *.XML files set to open with my XML editor, rather than Firefox. When I doubleclick to open I get informed that the type is that of eXtensible Markup Language, but that the contents indicate it's an HTML page, and it won't let me open except to right click and cho
[02:47] <st3v3dnd> ose an app to open with.
[02:47] <brenner> davidmoore83: you're password should work for sudo
[02:47] <crimsun> Karmander: did you resolve your sound issues?
[02:47] <moonman> !ubotu .mp3
[02:47] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, moonman
[02:47] <Karmander> crimsun yes thank you
[02:47] <crimsun> Karmander: excellent.
[02:47] <djk_> st3v3dnd: use kde ;)
[02:47] <Karmander> crimsun i need the boot up manager how can i get it?
[02:47] <NewbRyan> crimsun 2,4,6
[02:47] <davidmoore83> brenner, no its not :(
[02:48] <FLSimpsonR> .....
[02:48] <RedWolf_vc> How do I register my nickname on this server?
[02:48] <crimsun> !info bum
[02:48] <ubotu> bum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[02:48] <crimsun> Karmander: just install it from universe
[02:48] <Doomsdayoverkill> can a java virus effect linux
[02:48] <st3v3dnd> djk_: There's really no other option?
[02:48] <crimsun> RedWolf_vc: /msg nickserv help
[02:48] <RedWolf_vc> Thanks
[02:48] <Doomsdayoverkill> need to know
[02:48] <chemaja> Doomsdayoverkill, s/effect/affect
[02:49] <st3v3dnd> djk_:  Like to force gnome or nautilus to listen to me?
[02:49] <crimsun> NewbRyan: set it to 4
[02:49] <chemaja> Doomsdayoverkill, and on theoretical grounds, "yes"
[02:49] <soundray> Doomsdayoverkill: yes, but it can't do much damage to the system, unless you do really stupid things.
[02:49] <djk_> st3v3dnd: most likely, but you asked how you can stop gnome to think it's smarter than you ;)
[02:49] <brenner> davidmoore83: make sure you're in the sudoers group (or something like that) ... check here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:49] <_jason> st3v3dnd: you can mess with the mime database... don't know if you want to do that though
[02:49] <chemaja> st3v3dnd, `nautilus --stopFuckingAround'
[02:49] <Doomsdayoverkill> ok good
[02:50] <Doomsdayoverkill> i know little about linux
[02:50] <st3v3dnd> _jason: Yeah, I don't think that's what I'm looking for, so much as something to just make it open the preferred application for an extension, and ignore the contents
[02:50] <TeMagic> Hi there. I was wondering if a ubuntu-guru would be so kind as to help a complete linux newbie with a few things? I just started using linux today, and I'm having some difficulties
[02:50] <davidmoore83> brenner, cheers mate your a star i have updated the pci ids - don't know if it has helped as the issues still stand
[02:50] <Doomsdayoverkill> am trying to get to know linux more
[02:51] <_jason> st3v3dnd: that's what I did when it started complaining that .wmv files were actually of type ASF
[02:51] <Doomsdayoverkill> but vmware is cheating :-P
[02:51] <brenner> davidmoore83: you should now get more info from lspci (don't paste it in here again)
[02:51] <st3v3dnd> _jason: Where can I find the mime-type DB?
[02:51] <NewbRyan> crimsun: still not working
[02:51] <_jason> TeMagic: just state your first difficulty
[02:51] <Joetheodd> Is it possible to install a .TTF font on Linux?
[02:51] <davidmoore83> brenner, ok where is best to paste and how
[02:52] <crapbucketmoron> Has anyone here ever gotten a grub prompt after rebooting during ubuntu installation?
[02:52] <brenner> davidmoore83: you're right though.  the main issue is CPU usage.  like i said, run 'top' or the sys monitor to see what's eating the cpu
[02:52] <Joetheodd> st3v3dnd: Google
[02:52] <davidmccabe> Joetheodd: drop it in your .fonts folder in your home folder.
[02:52] <TeMagic> someone? It's not much I need help with. Just need help deleting a file from the desktop, as well as installing some nvidia drivers? Anybody?
[02:52] <brenner> davidmoore83: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:52] <Joetheodd> davidmccabe: thanks
[02:52] <crimsun> NewbRyan: did you try ``aplay -Dplug:surround40 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?
[02:52] <_jason> st3v3dnd: /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml, back it up, and then once you edit it, run update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
[02:52] <brenner> ubotu: tell TeMagic about nvidia
[02:52] <TeMagic> How do I get root permissions with my standard user in ubuntu?
[02:52] <sHaDe> n8 all
[02:52] <st3v3dnd> _jason: thanks
[02:53] <brenner> TeMagic: and deleting from the desktop should just be click and delete :-/
[02:53] <NewbRyan> crimsun: only the right side
[02:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell TeMagic about root
[02:53] <davidmoore83> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10883
[02:53] <TeMagic> Thanks brenner for the wiki. Didn't know it existed. It will be of great help!
[02:53] <TeMagic> no, I need root permissions to delete the file from the desktop. It got a big lock on it:)
[02:53] <brenner> TeMagic: welcome
[02:54] <crimsun> NewbRyan: ok, I'm sending your instructions to update your driver.
[02:54] <_jason> TeMagic: you use sudo, check out the wiki page for details
[02:54] <brenner> TeMagic: or just edit the file's permissions by right-clicking on it and going to properties
[02:55] <soundray> crimsun, you think it's actually a driver bug?
[02:55] <brenner> davidmoore83: that's nice. :)  i was just telling you that lspci is an alternative to the device manager
[02:55] <crimsun> NewbRyan: follow the directions that were just sent to you. When you reach the dpkg-reconfigure stage, make sure you select the intel8x0 driver after answering yes to pnp and debug.
[02:55] <crimsun> soundray: no, I'm not entirely convinced it is, but I need a more current testing point.
[02:55] <davidmoore83> brenner, sorry, need to forgive me i'm new
[02:55] <soundray> crimsun, can you send those instructions to me too, please?
[02:55] <davidmoore83> nothing appears to be using the CPU
[02:55] <NewbRyan> crimson: ok, this is probably going to take like an hour with my POS internet connection
[02:56] <crimsun> !tell soundray about alsa-source
[02:56] <TeMagic> brenner: The options are all greyed out, as the owner of the file is "root"
[02:56] <brenner> davidmoore83: but i thought you had 100% CPU usage?
[02:56] <davidmoore83> yes on the GUI monitor
[02:56] <m1an1ak> does someone know of any doc pages that talks about lowering your processor speed? i have a p4 laptop and i want to slow the processor down so i have more battery life
[02:56] <davidmoore83> not on CLI
[02:56] <brenner> TeMagic: ah, in that case listen to _jason  :)
[02:56] <brenner> davidmccabe: the monitor on the bottom right, right?
[02:56] <TeMagic> what is the command to delete a file in the terminal? Thanks
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> !bash
[02:57] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[02:57] <TeMagic> cheers!
[02:57] <chuckyp> TeMagic, rm
[02:57] <soundray> crimsun, thank you. I hope you'll be able to help NewbRyan to fix his sound.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> TeMagic:  it will be worth the effort to find a few bash tutorials
[02:57] <davidmoore83> brenner, the system monitor - the main issue is no hardware is recognised and i have my HD light constantly on....it doesnt even flicker
[02:57] <TeMagic> Now, I think I got the information I need. Thank you all so much!
[02:57] <crapbucketmoron> I'm having a problem with stage 2 of the Ubuntu installation
[02:57] <Hexidigital> !grub
[02:57] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:57] <soundray> Good luck NewbRyan, I'm off.
[02:57] <brenner> davidmccabe: can you hear it grinding?
[02:58] <davidmoore83> brenner, no. and it's ok in windows. Seems to happen in SUSE also
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu stage 2 ?
[02:59] <brenner> davidmccabe: is this a cutting edge machine?  it might be kernel compatibility issues
[02:59] <brenner> davidmccabe: sorry, menat for davidmoore83
[02:59] <davidmoore83> brenner, not really. Pentium D 3.0Ghz, shuttle SD31P with Intel 945G chipset with built in SB24 and a 7800GT
[03:00] <NewbRyan> soundray thanks alot
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:00] <arrick> I am trying to download CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz, and after typing in the commands, it says 'OLD option' What do i need to change?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  what 'commands' ?
[03:00] <arrick> brenner:hows it going tonihgt?
[03:01] <arrick> Dr_Willis: tar -xzf CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz'
[03:01] <brenner> davidmoore83: i'm not really sure to be honest...so the sys. monitor doesn't show any usage, but the CPU light is always on?
[03:01] <brenner> arrick: good thanks
[03:01] <davidmccabe> brenner: please take care when using tab complete :)
[03:01] <joevandyk> Building a kernel takes a long time.  :(  I thought there was a time where I could build the kernel in ten minutes or so.
[03:01] <davidmccabe> brenner: I'll make it easier by leaving.
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  the - is not needed any more i belive.
[03:02] <davidmoore83> brenner, is there any tool in CLI or GUI to show HD usage? no the GUI sys mon shows no cpu usage but its the HD light thats always on
[03:02] <arrick> brenner: I got the server running, now I'm trying to load the printer to it so CUPS will recognize it
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  hence the 'old' option.
[03:02] <arrick> Dr_willis: I'll try that thanks
[03:02] <robertj> can anyone suggest a good rss client that will just let me subscribe to lots of feeds, notify me when there is an update, and let me mark them read email style?
[03:02] <h0nus> soundray has quit ("Connection reset by beer.") ROFL
[03:03] <brenner> davidmoore83: i don't know of a tool, no.
[03:04] <davidmoore83> anyone else know of any solution to my issue!?
[03:04] <brenner> arrick: ah, the print server guy.  did xfce work out?
[03:04] <arrick> Dr_Willis: this is what it returned before ' tar: Old option 'C' requires an argument.' and now without the - it gives 'tar: error is not recoverable: exiting now, tar: child returned status 2'
[03:05] <davidmoore83> this problem makes me want to cry :(
[03:05] <arrick> brenner: xforce works for a gui but doesnt help for the printer, I have been given advice to find most of what I need on the wiki though.
[03:05] <cubikdice> w00t
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  normally to untar somthinh  i use, tar xzvf whatever.tar.gz
[03:05] <cubikdice> back on linux
[03:05] <cubikdice> :D
[03:05] <Xenguy> Question: I want a simple way to allow a friend to do an FTP-like file download from my box to his, but I want the transfer to be encrypted.  I have read about scponly and rssh, 2 tools that will supposedly allow this, and I'm wondering if anyone here who has used either of them either has recommendations or caveats about either of these tools (or are there better/simpler ways) ?
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy:  winscp is handy. and easy to use.
[03:06] <brenner> davidmoore83: well, you're not alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136314&highlight=hard+drive+light
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy:  uses ssh.
[03:06] <arrick> brenner: I got the shares set up, just got to get the printer installed now. thanks for all the help the other day
[03:06] <robertj> Is there a service that will email me blog posts when rss feeds are updated?
[03:06] <arrick> thanks Dr_willis
[03:06] <davidmoore83> brenner, i've read ALL those threads :)
[03:06] <h0nus> what is /etc/hotplug/blacklist?
[03:06] <brenner> davidmoore83: yes, just noticed your post lol
[03:07] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: I'm familiar with scp tools, but I'm looking for a way to limit the access to my server in the same way that ftp 'chroots' a user to a home directory - if that makes sense
[03:07] <davidmoore83> brenner, i just wish i could check HD activity. If i could see it wasn't being used and it was soley a light issue i wouldnt be as bothered
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy:  good luck there then. :P im not that paranoid. Lol.
[03:08] <joevandyk> Say, are there any converters or adapters that will let me display stuff from my VGA graphics to a TV?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy:  every time ive seen someone trying to chroot users.. they often come back and say its not worth the effort.
[03:08] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: I don't think it is an issue of paranoia at all - it's a question of access really
[03:08] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: yeah, if only there was a way to combine the best of FTP and SSH, in a simple, usable way
[03:08] <brenner> arrick: no worries.  i didn't do much though.
[03:09] <davidmoore83> brenner, would also be nice if ubuntu would recognise my cpu etc LOL
[03:09] <h0nus> i need help... i'm upgrading from hoary to breezy
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy:  sounds like a project for ya! - but heck - it may of allready been done.
[03:09] <arrick> Dr_Willis: do I download the file using tar?
[03:09] <h0nus> i was told that /etc/hotplug/blacklist was changed and i was given a list of options
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  tar has NOTHING to do with 'downloading' files.
[03:09] <h0nus> one was D to show differences, and i selected it
[03:09] <riddlebox> where does apt store the packages it downloads?
[03:10] <arrick> ok, how do I download the file first?
[03:10] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: scponly and rssh are 2 projects that try to address this issue - I just don't see a lot of people using these tools, and I wonder why
[03:10] <arrick> apt-get?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> riddlebox:  /var/cache/apt  i think
[03:10] <brenner> davidmoore83: there's a different command for that.  i forgot it though
[03:10] <h0nus> i think terminal brought up a readme, but i don't know how to exit back to my installation
[03:10] <davidmoore83> brenner, diff cmd for what?
[03:10] <arrick> hOnus: ctrl c, or ctrl x
[03:10] <brenner> davidmoore83: show cpu specs
[03:11] <Toma-> or q if your in man
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy:  no idea. :P lol. perhaps everyone else figures just normal ssh works good enough, and chrooting isent worth the effort.
[03:11] <h0nus> well dammit i don't know if my upgrade finished because that took me back to prompt
[03:11] <chip42> can i safely resize an ext3 partition so there is empty space at the start? i want to resize the partition by a few mb, create a fat32 partition at the beginning of the drive at put a windows ext2 filesystem driver in it
[03:11] <brenner> davidmoore83: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:11] <Madpilot> h0nus, if it just ended, then it probably worked
[03:12] <h0nus> hope so
[03:12] <arrick> Dr_Willis: How do I download the file from the site? gotta use a browser?
[03:12] <h0nus> o_0
[03:12] <kuja> arrick: wget?
[03:12] <arrick> ok
[03:12] <h0nus> brb
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  yea that would be one way... how did you find the file?
[03:13] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: curious - it seems like such an obvious thing to want to do (not allow someone to browse all around a server with say winscp); even ftp doesn't allow that
[03:13] <davidmoore83> brenner, it recognises my CPU with that cmd yet the OS doesnt recognise it! weird!
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy:  let them browse.. they cant hurt anything.
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy:  in theory. :P
[03:13] <arrick> Dr_Willis:I was recommended to the file by a site, for my printer, and now cant figure out how to get it to the pc, so I can install it. It is a driver
[03:13] <brenner> davidmoore83: well, not the OS.  just the device mgr tool
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  I think you got a long session of learning to do. :P
[03:13] <arrick> yeah
[03:13] <brenner> i don't know where it gets its info from
[03:13] <arrick> I know
[03:14] <Toma-> davidmoore83: have you checked out "cat /proc/cpuinfo" ?
[03:14] <arrick> been doing it for 3 days now
[03:14] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: heh, I have to find a better way - anyhow, thanks
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  this was for some lexmark printer?
[03:14] <davidmoore83> yes Toma-
[03:14] <arrick> yes
[03:14] <arrick> x6170
[03:14] <Toma-> and no cpu info? weird!
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  you may be better off. mowing yards for 3 days - and buying a better printer. :P
[03:14] <arrick> the z600 driver works for it
[03:14] <davidmoore83> Toma-, no i get CPU info with that cmd
[03:14] <brenner> Toma-: that works for him...the device mgr doesn't
[03:14] <arrick> hey, not nice
[03:14] <Toma-> add udev/hal problems?
[03:14] <arrick> my network was free, hence tryign to run free software
[03:15] <Toma-> s/add/ahh
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> arrick:  ive tossed out many a lexmark printers. :P
[03:15] <brenner> Toma-: his HDD light is also constantly on
[03:15] <arrick> yeah
[03:15] <arrick> this one belongs to the VA until I finish College, so I cant
[03:15] <Swedish_Chef> what's a good application to manage contacts with my razr over bluetooth?
[03:15] <Toma-> brenner: mine it too. but thats because i wired it silly into the mobo...
[03:15] <Toma-> davidmoore83: is there anything using the harddrive?
[03:15] <davidmoore83> Toma-, it isnt the wiring
[03:16] <davidmoore83> Toma-, how could i find out? the light doesnt flicker though its constant
[03:16] <arrick> your drive is toast man
[03:16] <Toma-> davidmoore83: your bios should be controlling the hdd light, not anything else... see the fuser command
[03:17] <davidmoore83> Toma-, my HD light is fine in windows but not in Linux distros
[03:18] <Toma-> *note to self - remove soulfly from mp3 playlist
[03:18] <Toma-> umm. what type of harddrive is it?
[03:18] <davidmoore83> Toma-, the device manager recognises nothing not even my cpu :) its an intel 945G chiset
[03:18] <Toma-> davidmoore83: new-ish components?
[03:18] <davidmoore83> WD.9 SATAII
[03:19] <davidmoore83> yeah newish but not weird components Toma-
[03:19] <Toma-> davidmoore83: i got new components the other day. turns out the mobo had all sorts of new stuff so i had to update to kernel 2.6.15
[03:19] <davidmoore83> intel 945G chipset, intel PD 3.0Ghz chip, WD drives
[03:19] <Toma-> davidmoore83: give flight 5 live a spin and see if it resolves anything
[03:19] <davidmoore83> Toma-,  this is a clean updated install
[03:20] <davidmoore83> Toma-, flight 5 live?
[03:20] <Toma-> !flight5
[03:20] <ubotu> flight5 is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[03:20] <cubikdice> lol
[03:20] <davidmoore83> Toma-, ahhh alpha or beta dapper?
[03:20] <arrick> ok, I'm back, please resend anything for me
[03:20] <Toma-> if the kernel works and cpu is detected and hopefully the HDD is loaded correctly, then itll be kernel specific, and if its that, then you can easily install a new kernel in breezy
[03:21] <PistolPedro> is it safe to upgrade to dapper yet?
[03:21] <Toma-> davidmoore83: yeh. live dapper. that way if it still doesnt work, you can file a bug and hopefulyl get it fixed by 6-06 :D
[03:21] <davidmoore83> Toma-, its a live cd not an install?
[03:21] <Toma-> PistolPedro: not really. are you prepared to possibly lose data and file bugs?
[03:21] <Toma-> davidmoore83: yep
[03:22] <anto9us> davidmoore83, #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[03:22] <Toma-> davidmoore83: obviously, only if you get the live version
[03:22] <PistolPedro> Toma-, no sir i am not.
[03:22] <Toma-> :D
[03:22] <PistolPedro> Toma-, is it looking like dapper is on for june 1?
[03:22] <brenner> arrick: <brenner> thank god arrick's gone.
[03:22] <Toma-> PistolPedro: yep
[03:23] <davidmoore83> Toma-, will that do a full hardware detect though?
[03:23] <PistolPedro> Toma-, ill i be able to just dist-upgrade then without losing data ?
[03:23] <Toma-> davidmoore83: yep
[03:23] <Toma-> PistolPedro: yep
[03:23] <riddlebox> I wonder why one of my machines can apt-get transcode, mjpegtools, and subtitleripper and the other cant, I have the exact same apt sources
[03:23] <Toma-> far out. win2k sux to install in qemu :/
[03:23] <davidmoore83> Toma-, cheers i will give it a whirl - and you think if this doesnt detect etc then submit a bug?
[03:23] <Toma-> davidmoore83: fo shizzle my nizzle.
[03:23] <Toma-> ;)
[03:24] <PistolPedro> Toma-, LOL
[03:24] <davidmoore83> cheers Toma- :) need my bed now its 2:30am here :)
[03:24] <brenner> davidmoore83: good luck
[03:24] <Toma-> davidmoore83: and if it does work, id say try gettiung kernel 2.6.15 or .16 for breezy
[03:24] <davidmoore83> cheers brenner cheers Toma-
[03:24] <Toma-> np
[03:24] <arrick> Someone was talking to me before I switched pc's, can you link back up with me please?
[03:24] <Bowsa> im having trouble starting realplayer, it says Starting realplayer then it does NOT start
[03:25] <Bowsa> anyone able to help
[03:25] <PistolPedro> arrick, whats the problem?
[03:25] <Toma-> Bowsa: get helixplayer
[03:25] <PistolPedro> Bowsa, in terminal type realplayer and pastebin the results
[03:25] <Toma-> newer and better
[03:25] <arrick> brenner: I just got your message about being gone?
[03:25] <PistolPedro> or do what toma said
[03:25] <Ov3R> sorry, speake spanish?
[03:26] <Toma-> !es
[03:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:26] <_jason> Bowsa: what does it say if you try to start it from a terminal?
[03:26] <Ov3R> tank
[03:26] <Bowsa> shuan@ubuntu:~$ realplayer
[03:26] <Bowsa> /usr/bin/realplayer: line 5: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay: No such file or directory
[03:26] <Bowsa> /usr/bin/realplayer: line 5: exec: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay: cannot execute: No such file or directory
[03:26] <Toma-> old and yucky rp8
[03:26] <PistolPedro> yea i suggest uprading to helixplayer like toma said
[03:27] <arrick> I'm talking to him
[03:27] <_jason> Bowsa: where did you get this thing from?
[03:27] <Toma-> !info helixplayer
[03:27] <_jason> (and how did you install it)
[03:27] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:27] <Toma-> gah
[03:27] <Toma-> wtf...
[03:27] <PistolPedro> wtf
[03:27] <PistolPedro> lol
[03:27] <Bowsa> how did i install what
[03:27] <_jason> !info helix-player
[03:27] <ubotu> helix-player: (The Helix Community's open source media player), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4068 kB, Installed size: 10284 kB
[03:28] <arrick> pistolpedro: I ha dot go for a drive, was to tense earlier, and now I am back to finish the everlating search to get my printer going, the z600 driver is supposed to work with it, now got to find the drives
[03:28] <arrick> driver
[03:29] <arrick> sorry about the length of my last guys
[03:30] <Bowsa> will helix player; play rm files
[03:30] <_jason> Bowsa: how did you install realplayer?
[03:30] <EnsignRedshirt> So I'm watching a movie (Das Boot) that is on two sides of a DVD.  When I started watching, I had the usual start up menu options, where I selected English subtitles before starting the movie.   But when I try to play side B, it just starts the movie automatically, without letting me choose subtitles.  Is there any way to choose subtitle/language options for side B?
[03:30] <Bowsa> through add appz
[03:31] <brenner> EnsignRedshirt: what player?
[03:31] <EnsignRedshirt> By the way, I'm using totem.
[03:31] <_jason> oh wow I never realized realplayer was in the repos
[03:31] <Bowsa> yeah it was working fine yesterday
[03:31] <crimsun> _jason: not necessarily a bad thing :p
[03:31] <Toma-> !info realplayer
[03:31] <ubotu> realplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[03:31] <Bowsa> im checking out so much stuff
[03:31] <Bowsa> other progz bug
[03:31] <Toma-> ....version 8?!?!? version 10 has been out for years
[03:31] <brenner> EnsignRedshirt: view>subtitles
[03:31] <Bowsa> this is realplayer gold
[03:32] <Bowsa> its good
[03:32] <_jason> crimsun: any idea about bowsa's errors loading realplayer?  because I have never used the thing
[03:32] <EnsignRedshirt> brenner: That menu option is greyed out.
[03:33] <crimsun> _jason: I haven't used realplayer in quite some time
[03:33] <brenner> EnsignRedshirt: that usually means it can't find a subtitle track
[03:33] <crimsun> Bowsa: execute realplayer from within a Terminal
[03:33] <crimsun> Bowsa: what is the error message that you get?
[03:33] <Bowsa> i've jus uninstalled it and installed helix player
[03:33] <Bowsa> fuck it
[03:33] <Bowsa> cheers anyway
[03:34] <Eleaf> should I try running folding@home on my linksys router? lol
[03:34] <crimsun> I didn't think helix player handled the proprietary codecs aside from mp3, anyhow
[03:34] <Eleaf> hmm
[03:34] <arrick> !tar
[03:35] <Bowsa> anyone in here use Steam to play Half Life or CS?
[03:35] <elizalde> #ubuntu
[03:36] <adam_> hello everyone
 /usr/bin/realplayer: line 5: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay: No such file or directory
 /usr/bin/realplayer: line 5: exec: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay: cannot execute: No such file or directory
[03:36] <brenner> crimsun: ^^
[03:36] <adam_> and anyone help out a noob?
[03:36] <adam_> 4can
[03:36] <_jason> adam_: hi, just ask
[03:37] <Toma-> brenner: looks like a bad link... find the Realplayer dir that DOES exist and ln -s the realplay bin to the /usr/bin/realplayer
[03:37] <EnsignRedshirt> !anyone
[03:37] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:37] <crimsun> Bowsa: did you install realplayer from multiverse?
[03:37] <Bowsa> no
[03:37] <_jason> Bowsa: didn't you use add apps?
[03:37] <adam_> when installing just about anything i get :  error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.s o.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:37] <_dave_> heyas peeps. got an old laptop running ubuntu hoary i think, and altho it has about 15 instances of the internal modem, it cant use the auto-detect modem on modem properties and thus cant get on the web. any ideas ?
[03:37] <Intangir> which one does 2.4+ use? iptables or ipchains?
[03:37] <Bowsa> yes i used add apps
[03:37] <_dave_> its running gnome
[03:37] <Toma-> Bowsa: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/  ---Theyve got lots of howtos on games like HL2, steam, warcraft WoW and so on
[03:38] <Intangir> there is a kernel config option about iptables.. i cant remember..
[03:38] <Toma-> Intangir: wasnt iptables still an app in 2.4?
[03:38] <Intangir> but which is the new one?
[03:39] <_jason> adam_: have you tried reinstalling the libgtk1.2 package?
[03:39] <Toma-> iptables in 2.6
[03:39] <linux_amateur> How do I install DHCP on Ubuntu... it failed on the OS installation, and I have no idea where to start on linux... On the help pages there are dozens of pages that link to other links..... .:|
[03:39] <djk_> how do i mount an iso to a directory?
[03:39] <brenner> _dave_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[03:40] <brenner> ubotu: tell djk_ about mountiso
[03:40] <Toma-> linux_amateur: you want a dhcp server or just need to connect to a dhcp server?
[03:40] <Toma-> !dhcp
[03:40] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Toma-
[03:40] <_jason> Bowsa: if I were you, I would just remove realplayer8 from my system and install realplayer10 instead.  Actually, I would just use mplayer...  What do you want to do?
[03:40] <_dave_> ta brenner :)
[03:40] <fabioFx> hi.. exist any conversor m3u to html? :)
[03:40] <brenner> _dave_: i like wvdial personally
[03:40] <linux_amateur> Toma-. connect
[03:41] <Toma-> linux_amateur: easy! System > Admin > Networking
[03:41] <Bowsa> does mplayer run rm files
[03:42] <_jason> Bowsa: yes, if you install w32codecs
[03:42] <corvax> yes
[03:42] <Toma-> linux_amateur: then click your device and Configure it and just look for the dhcp option
[03:42] <Bowsa> i'l do that
[03:42] <_jason> Bowsa: you run the 386 version of ubuntu?
[03:42] <Bowsa> yes
[03:42] <Bowsa> my 3rd day
[03:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell Bowsa about mplayer
[03:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell Bowsa about w32codecs
[03:43] <_jason> Bowsa: just follow the guides that ubotu sent you in your private messages
[03:43] <Toma-> youll want the mplayer-386 package
[03:43] <Bowsa> thanks matey
[03:43] <Toma-> :O windows 2k is actually setting up in qemu! :O!
[03:43] <corvax> bowsa add marillat repos to your sources
[03:43] <EnsignRedshirt> brenner: In case you're interested... I tried vlc, and it gave me the startup menu, so I could turn on subtitles on side B.  Go figure.
[03:43] <Toma-> corvax: no.
[03:43] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyway, back to the movie...
[03:43] <corvax> yes :)
[03:43] <corvax> lol
[03:44] <Toma-> marillat breaks stuff
[03:44] <corvax> really havent had it break anything in years
[03:44] <Toma-> i spent 2 days reversing the crap i did when  i added that
[03:44] <brenner> EnsignRedshirt: thanks for the info
[03:45] <corvax> on debain unstable/testing mixed enrvironemnt and ubuntu as well isnce hoary
[03:45] <corvax> and libranet 2.8 and 3.0
[03:45] <corvax> but everyones situation is different
[03:46] <corvax> sometimes you need to use pinning
[03:46] <Hexidigital> i noticed during install, some settings were unavailable... ie. firewall... anyone know if ubuntu NEEDS a firewall? or is security already set to high?
[03:46] <corvax> i use firestarter
[03:46] <Hexidigital> Mandriva, RedHat9 lets me configure these, that's why i ask
[03:46] <Plitskin> is it possible to just do "sudo apt-get install wine" instead of "sudo apt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev x-window-system-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev msttcorefonts libfontconfig1-dev"?
[03:46] <Toma-> Hexidigital: doesnt really need a firewall. if you want a firewall, get firestarter and make your own rules up
[03:47] <Hexidigital> corvax, is it easy to configure?
[03:47] <_jason> !firewall
[03:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[03:47] <Hexidigital> corvax, Toma-, _jason, thanks guys
[03:47] <Toma-> Plitskin: yes...
[03:47] <Plitskin> ok, thanks
[03:48] <Toma-> Plitskin: goto the wine website and add their ubuntu repo to your sources for the newer tastier wine
[03:48] <corvax> pin to the win servers too
[03:48] <corvax> wine
[03:49] <linux_amateur> Toma-; I enabled the ethernet adapter with dhcp...
[03:49] <linux_amateur> is there anything else to do to connect to the internet?
[03:50] <Toma-> linux_amateur: you might need to disable/enable it
[03:50] <Newbieeee> Please help
[03:50] <Toma-> to get a new dhcp ip, but other than that, no, iirc.
[03:50] <Toma-> !help
[03:50] <andriijas> anyone who knows why apache 2.2 isnt in apt yet?
[03:50] <Toma-> eep
[03:50] <linux_amateur> I already enabled it D:
[03:50] <linux_amateur> !help
[03:50] <Newbieeee> I am on Installing Ubuntu to the partition disks
[03:50] <h0nus> yay it worked!
[03:51] <nismo> how would i be able to get my lexmark printer functioning on ubuntu?
[03:51] <Toma-> linux_amateur: and its still not working?
[03:51] <_dave_> whats wvdial ?
[03:51] <linux_amateur> yeah, can't connect to firefox or anything
[03:51] <dhalgren> hi folks. What is the safest way to remove a kernel I don't want to use? I am running the latest dapper and have 2.6.15-19-386 and -6986 installed. I want oto get rid of the 686 version as it does not work and is currently my default kernal.
[03:51] <Toma-> Newbieeee: fasinating.
[03:51] <_dave_> (brenner)
[03:51] <Toma-> dhalgren: synaptic
[03:51] <corvax> can you ping anything
[03:51] <linux_amateur> nope
[03:51] <psusi> dhalgren, remove the package in synaptic
[03:51] <linux_amateur> i tried pinging google and it didnt work
[03:51] <dhalgren> Toma: the kernel doesn't show in synaptiuc, or I am searching for the wrong name
[03:52] <Newbieeee> Toma please help..don|t laugh
[03:52] <Toma-> linux_amateur: can you ping your router?
[03:52] <Toma-> Newbieeee: whats the problem? i cant help you if you dont say what the problem is can i?
[03:52] <linux_amateur> how do I ping my router? :p
[03:52] <linux_amateur> the router ip?
[03:52] <_dave_> yes
[03:52] <Toma-> dhalgren: look for linux in the names
[03:52] <Newbieeee> I have 2 partitions C and D with windows...and 1 partinion Linux 3 and 1 partition Swap
[03:52] <dj-fu> ping <ip>
[03:52] <liable> _dave_: a ppp dialing program. its quite good.
[03:53] <dhalgren> Toma: ok, will try that now
[03:53] <_dave_> does it get past the modem detection mess ?
[03:53] <Toma-> linux_amateur: yep. ping 10.1.1.1 and so on
[03:53] <Newbieeee> What should I do now?
[03:53] <_dave_> btw, its still trying to detect the modem. not too good m'fraid
[03:53] <liable> if you have a modem, it should detect it
[03:53] <Toma-> Newbieeee: press enter? have you assigned a root / partition?
[03:53] <_dave_> hmmm. nice. so pray tell, where do i get this wvdial ?
[03:54] <Newbieeee> no toma_?
[03:54] <Newbieeee> how do I do that?
[03:54] <dhalgren> Toma: thank you. It was there as <<linux-686>>, which I did not think to look for.
[03:54] <Toma-> dhalgren: np :)
[03:54] <McJerry> when i reboot....i have no network connectivity....i have to ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 to get networking back.....any ideas?
[03:54] <dhalgren> bye all enjoy ubuntu!
[03:54] <Toma-> Newbieeee: are you manually partitioning?
[03:54] <linux_amateur> Toma-; can't ping router; "Network is unreachable"
[03:54] <Newbieeee> Yes
[03:54] <NewbRyan> crimson: i alsa driver you had me download is finally finished: what was i supposed to do after it downloaded?
[03:54] <Toma-> linux_amateur: ok... pop open a terminal
[03:54] <Newbieeee> Manually
[03:54] <Toma-> Newbieeee: can you do it automatically?
[03:54] <crimsun> NewbRyan: did all those steps complete successfully?
[03:55] <linux_amateur> Toma-; done
[03:55] <corvax> linux_amature can you connect to the router from the linux box atall
[03:55] <Toma-> linux_amateur: ok, run "sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo dhclient eth0"
[03:55] <Toma-> i think...
[03:55] <Toma-> yeh
[03:55] <Plitskin[2] > uhmm... sudo apet-get install won't work without internet connection...
[03:55] <corvax> what i mean is do you have access to the lan
[03:55] <nismo> how would i be able to get my lexmark printer functioning on ubuntu?
[03:55] <Newbieeee> N toma I am to manually...an i cannot go back
[03:55] <Intangir> whats an i20 device..
[03:55] <NewbRyan> crimsun: Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:55] <NewbRyan>  alsa-source
[03:56] <corvax> plit it will
[03:56] <Toma-> Newbieeee: why not?
[03:56] <Plitskin[2] > I guess there isn't much I can do with my linux box after alll... :(
[03:56] <Intangir> also on firefox before when i typed 'google whatever' it would do a good search
[03:56] <corvax> if you have  media
[03:56] <Intangir> now it .. doesnt
[03:56] <corvax> like a dvd
[03:56] <corvax> or cd
[03:56] <crimsun> NewbRyan: please pastebin the command and all the errors
[03:56] <NewbRyan> crimsun ok
[03:56] <eugman> I have a dozen bmps I want to change into one animated gif. What do I use?
[03:57] <PistolPedro> how do you tell if a hard-drive has a hidden partition ?
[03:57] <liable> gimp
[03:57] <NickGarvey> !gimp
[03:57] <ubotu> from memory, gimp is at http://www.gimp.org
[03:57] <Plitskin[2] > is apt-get also a package manager like rpm in red hat?
[03:57] <Toma-> PistolPedro: a hidden partition? fdisk maybe?
[03:57] <corvax> kind of plitskin
[03:57] <eugman> ok so gimp can do animations?
[03:57] <NewbRyan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10885
[03:57] <McJerry> when i reboot....i have no network connectivity....i have to ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 to get networking back.....any ideas?
[03:57] <glm2k> Plitskin: more than rpm. more like mandriva's urpmi
[03:57] <glm2k> eugman: aye
[03:57] <Toma-> Plitskin: dpkg is like rpm
[03:57] <Newbieeee> Toma: I cannot go back!
[03:58] <Toma-> Newbieeee: ok. you have 3 linux partitions? what sizes?
[03:58] <crimsun> NewbRyan: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:58] <Toma-> apt-get is like yum
[03:58] <glm2k> Plitskin: it's probably closest to yum under red hat
[03:58] <linux_amateur> Toma-; it says unknown hardware address type 776
[03:58] <Toma-> linux_amateur: now we're getting somewhere.
[03:59] <Newbieeee> No I have 1 Linux Partition...Linux ext3
[03:59] <linux_amateur> hardware incompatibily?
[03:59] <Plitskin[2] > thanks glm2k
[03:59] <Newbieeee> and 1 swap partition
[03:59] <Toma-> linux_amateur: run desg and see if you can find something about eth0
[03:59] <Toma-> linux_amateur: possibly
[03:59] <NewbRyan> crimsun: done
[03:59] <Newbieeee> and another 2 C: D: partitions...with windows
[03:59] <Toma-> Newbieeee: well edit the 1 ext3 partition and change its mount point to /
[03:59] <PistolPedro> is their a way to fine tune internet settings in gnome, like an advanced program?
[04:00] <corvax> yeah you have to  write somthing in your etc/newtwork/interfaces
[04:00] <corvax> to do it auto
[04:00] <corvax> for you
[04:00] <linux_amateur> how do I run desg?
[04:00] <Toma-> linux_amateur: terminal "dmesg"
[04:00] <arrick> Hey evrybody, I got the file I wanted and got it unzipped, how do I find out where it went, and how do I gte the thing to install?
[04:00] <Newbieeee> toma and that|s all?
[04:00] <corvax> use less
[04:00] <PistolPedro> whats a good command to see what freq the processor is at?
[04:00] <crimsun> NewbRyan: now continue with the instructions.
[04:00] <NewbRyan> ok
[04:00] <Newbieeee> with swap partition?
[04:01] <Toma-> Newbieeee: should be!
[04:01] <Toma-> Newbieeee: thatll get chosen automatically
[04:01] <nismo> Firefox keeps shutting down on me in ubuntu, any suggestions?
[04:01] <corvax> arrick probably in your home
[04:01] <Newbieeee> I have to do something with swap partition?
[04:01] <corvax> or desktop
[04:01] <Newbieeee> or just to leave it like that
[04:01] <Newbieeee> ?
[04:01] <Toma-> Newbieeee: next, the installer will say format "/dev/hdsomething" and "swap"
[04:01] <Plitskin[2] > Newbieeee - make it at least twice your RAM
[04:01] <Toma-> make SURE its not saying anything about your windows partitions
[04:01] <arrick> corvax: I finally found it just now, how do I install it, its a tar file
[04:02] <twirpie> just curious but do you all use xchat or did you settle for something else?
[04:02] <arrick> corvax: its a printer driver
[04:02] <Toma-> Plitskin[2] : pfft waste of hdd space :)
[04:02] <corvax> well you can just klik on it
[04:02] <PistolPedro> twirpie, i use x
[04:02] <Toma-> twirpie: xchat 2.6.1 for me
[04:02] <Newbieeee> Yes Plitskin IT is 1,7 Gb
[04:02] <Newbieeee> And i have 512 ram
[04:02] <Plitskin[2] > Toma - isn't that suppose to be your virtual memory stuff?
[04:02] <NewbRyan> crimsun: i think i did, you said that When you reach the dpkg-reconfigure stage, make sure you select the intel8x0 driver after answering yes to pnp and debug. I'm not sure how to get to that though
[04:03] <brenner> nismo: try running it in a terminal to see if any errors spit out
[04:03] <Toma-> Newbieeee: you will never use that much swap. unless youre a hardcore image editor and in which case you would actually buy more real ram...
[04:03] <corvax> yess
[04:03] <arrick> corvax: just double click on it and it starts? do I need to boot or anything?
[04:03] <nismo> rgr
[04:03] <corvax> so extract it
[04:03] <Toma-> Plitskin: yeh, but realistically, you can get away with no swap at all
[04:03] <arrick> reboot
[04:03] <corvax> it wwill bring up the archive manger
[04:03] <arrick> ?
[04:03] <nismo> ive noticed that ubuntu uses alot less memory than kubuntu
[04:03] <Plitskin[2] > Toma: Uhmmmmm... Ok...
[04:03] <arrick> it didnt do that
[04:03] <linux_amateur> Toma-; all I see is eth0:IPv6 router not present
[04:03] <Toma-> but its safe to have at least 512mb of swap for 512mb of ram
[04:03] <corvax> and then it will untar it when you cklick extract
[04:04] <corvax> then you go from there
[04:04] <Toma-> linux_amateur: i see....
[04:04] <corvax> i dont know what kind of file the installer is
[04:04] <jtxx000> i tried to do a light install with fluxbox and gdm but when gdm starts all i get is a blank screen. :?
[04:04] <corvax> or if its  source
[04:04] <corvax> or what
[04:04] <Toma-> linux_amateur: whats before that? anything about networking card?
[04:04] <arrick> ok
[04:04] <arrick> thanks
[04:04] <crimsun> NewbRyan: just refer to the instructions that were sent to you, and don't repeat anything that has already finished.
[04:05] <Newbieeee> Toma after i change it mount option with / I enter on FInish partitioning and write changes to disk and nothing is hapening
[04:05] <Toma-> Newbieeee: nothing at all?
[04:05] <Newbieeee> nothing!!!
[04:05] <Toma-> hdd light is going crazy?
[04:05] <adam_> any time i try to intall something i get this :  error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.s o.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:06] <adam_> any help would be great
[04:06] <Newbieeee> mo
[04:06] <Hexidigital> !ntfs
[04:06] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:06] <Newbieeee> maybe i have to do more changes...
[04:06] <brenner> adam_: what are you installing?
[04:06] <Toma-> Newbieeee: press ctl-alt-f1 or 2
[04:06] <adam_> that time it was winetools
[04:06] <Toma-> and open a terminal... i think you just need to hit enter
[04:07] <arrick> !tar
[04:07] <Newbieeee> I press enter and activate this console..
[04:07] <brenner> adam_: do you have the gtk development package installed?
[04:07] <Newbieeee> And now?
[04:07] <adam_> not that i know of
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> it goes boom!
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Lo
[04:07] <Newbieeee> I have #
[04:07] <Toma-> Newbieeee: good. now run 'dmesg' and see if anything nasty happened at the end
[04:07] <Luzer> hi all
[04:07] <brenner> adam_: libgtk1.2-dev
[04:08] <twirpie> so pretty much everyone here uses the xchat client?
[04:08] <Newbieeee> yes...a lot of textttttttt
[04:08] <Toma-> twirpie: why?
[04:08] <sure> i'm in opera
[04:08] <Newbieeee> and again #
[04:08] <adam_> oh so thats why im getting it
[04:08] <twirpie> curious is all :)
[04:08] <Toma-> Newbieeee: but at the end, is there any error looking things about harddrives at all?
[04:08] <adam_> its looking for the package that isnt there?
[04:08] <Hagge_> Uhm, is it possible to "downgrade" a bunch of packages in ubuntu? (easiest would be if it just switched to the ones available from the mirrors in my sources.list). I've added the kde 3.5.2 packages but internationalized packages wasn't available and i would prefer to have 3.5.1 instead.
[04:08] <brenner> adam_: installing stuff from source usually requires some devel. libraries
[04:08] <Newbieeee> is said no floppy controllers found
[04:09] <birdfish> Should I install php4 or php5 on Breezy Badger?
[04:09] <Toma-> Newbieeee: thats not a problem...
[04:09] <adam_> ok ill give that a shot
[04:09] <arrick> !print
[04:09] <ubotu> hmm... print is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[04:09] <linux_amateur> Toma-; I don't see anything about networking... but I just noticed that the LED on the ethernet card is Orange...is that because of Ubuntu or somehow the cable is damaged???
[04:09] <Toma-> Newbieeee: i gotta go...
[04:09] <Hagge_> twirpie: i would guess quite a few uses irssi
[04:09] <brenner> adam_: you might also want to look at checkinstall
[04:09] <Newbieeee> take me out from this
[04:09] <Newbieeee> back to the installation:)
[04:09] <twirpie> kewl any others i should look at?
[04:09] <Toma-> linux_amateur: orange hey... possibly loaded wrong
[04:09] <corvax> you always have two lights on ethernet
[04:09] <arrick> brenner: got a minute?
[04:10] <corvax> one green one oarange
[04:10] <Hagge_> twirpie: I think if you look at xchat, irssi, scrollz and weechat you have it covered
[04:10] <adam_> that a installing package?
[04:10] <linux_amateur> orange being BAD!
[04:10] <linux_amateur> D:
[04:10] <corvax> on lets you know its connected one lets you know its transmittign data
[04:10] <Toma-> well i have to go. sorry linux_amateur... you might need to disable ipv6
[04:10] <twirpie> k thanks
[04:10] <sure> anyone know the name of the package i can dpkg-reconfigure to reconfigure my network devices?
[04:10] <corvax> "usually"
[04:10] <_tcc> Orange doesn't mean bad.
[04:10] <Toma-> but someone else can help u there
[04:10] <_tcc> It really just depends.
[04:10] <Hagge_> twirpie: there are quite a few more available aswell but i would guess those are the ones most people use or have the best functionallity
[04:10] <brenner> ubotu: tell adam_ about checkinstall
[04:10] <corvax> if its flashing or solid
[04:10] <Toma-> cheerio
[04:10] <corvax> makes a diference] 
[04:10] <twirpie> kewl
[04:10] <_tcc> I have a laptop that is orange.
[04:10] <_tcc> And it works find.,
[04:10] <_tcc> fine*
[04:10] <Hagge_> twirpie: I would go for xchat for gui or irssi for console
[04:11] <Newbieeee> Toma could you please take me out back to instalattin
[04:11] <Newbieeee> ?
[04:11] <twirpie> k
[04:11] <brenner> arrick: sure
[04:11] <arrick> brenner: I am trying to get my print driver untarred, and I found it in 'linux/home/arrick/desktop, how do I extract it? the gui is not doing it.
[04:11] <linux_amateur> _tcc; it was green when I had windows though...
[04:11] <linux_amateur> ?
[04:11] <_tcc> Maybe something is wrong then.
[04:11] <arrick> I've tried all the tar commands, and it says file not founf
[04:11] <arrick> found
[04:11] <Hagge_> arrick: probably tar xvfz or tar xvfj depending if it's a tar.gzip or tar.bzip2
[04:11] <linux_amateur> What should I check to see what's wrong?
[04:12] <_tcc> What is the problem?
[04:12] <Hagge_> arrick: if it says file no found go check in ~/desktop ;)
[04:12] <brenner> arrick: are you in the right dir/used the correct absolute path?
[04:12] <Hagge_> +t
[04:12] <arrick> hagge_: its unzipped already, the gui did that for me
[04:12] <sure> which package do i dpkg-reconfigure to setup my network devices
[04:12] <cubikdice> Question: I just installed the nvidia-glx drivers and enabled then after it finished. I then restarted but no nvidia logo came up...did i go about this right? (i have an nvidia 7800 GT 256MB)
[04:12] <corvax> when you extract a tar file from the command line you need to tell the computer where it is or be in the directory where it is
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  cd to /home/USERNAME/Desktop  or was it desktop.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:12] <arrick> how do I check the dir?
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  then use the tar commands.
[04:12] <arrick> ok
[04:12] <h0nus> ok i have upgraded to breezy, updated my repos, and still have problems finding certain modules
[04:12] <arrick> thanks
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> Bash 101 stuff here. :P lol
[04:12] <Newbieeee> Toma common man...say the command to go back in the install
[04:12] <h0nus> perhaps someone can provide me with the correct names?
[04:12] <Hagge_> cubikdice: are you using nv or nvidia in your xorg.conf?
[04:13] <cubikdice> i should check that eh
[04:13] <Hagge_> cubikdice: without the nvidia logo i would assume it's not working (you can turn it off thought)
[04:13] <cubikdice> where is that located again ? =X
[04:13] <Hagge_> cubikdice: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:13] <cubikdice> thank you, hold on
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> I like the nvidia logo.
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:13] <Hagge_> cubikdice: either you don't have "nvidia" in it or the drivers doesn't support your gfx card because it's to new
[04:13] <htrp> how do you format a floppy disk via command line?
[04:13] <Hagge_> arrick: pwd
[04:13] <Hagge_> arrick: for the dir question
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> htrp,  what filesystem you want to use?
[04:14] <arrick> Dr_Willis: its telling me ther is no such directroy
[04:14] <Hagge_> arrick: and use ~  instead of /home/username
[04:14] <htrp> anything that windows read
[04:14] <cubikdice> Hagge_, says nv :\
[04:14] <nismo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714
[04:14] <h0nus> i need to find SAP/R3 module and libssh module
[04:14] <cubikdice> and i just enabled it a second time...
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  it MAY be worth whole to spend the next hr reading a bash tutoriual,  try cd d<tab>    for file name completion, use 'ls' and LOOK and see what the file names are.
[04:15] <Hagge_> cubikdice: google for "ubuntu nvidia" or something, i'm sure there are a wiki entry or something for it
[04:15] <Hagge_> cubikdice: you should replace nv with nvidia in it
[04:15] <nismo> Im tryin to install a lexmark printer following the steps found here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714  I cant seem to get the alien thing though
[04:15] <nismo> the command with alien doesnt work
[04:15] <Hagge_> but i have no idea if ubuntu has a command line to make all the changes or not
[04:15] <corvax> arrick are you in the directory
[04:15] <Hagge_> of if you should/can only do it manually
[04:15] <corvax> of the utarred file?
[04:15] <cubikdice> hmm
[04:15] <cubikdice> alright
[04:15] <Hagge_> cubikdice: also you might have to do something else, google for it
[04:15] <htrp> how do you format a floppy disk via command line?
[04:15] <cubikdice> my concern was if my vid card was suported
[04:15] <nismo> any help? plz :(
[04:16] <Hagge_> cubikdice: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:16] <cubikdice> thank you
[04:16] <nootrope> i've been reading the man for apt but i can't find anything on installing packages i d/l from proiders like skype. i'm a rank noobie. can anyone please point me to a place where i can learn to install packages that aren't in the distros oor in the universe depository?
[04:16] <Hagge_> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8174.html
[04:16] <Hagge_> Added support for new GeForce 6100, GeForce 6150 and GeForce 7800 GTX 512.
[04:16] <nismo> Im tryin to install a lexmark printer following the steps found here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714  I cant seem to get the alien thing though
[04:16] <nismo> any help? plz :(
[04:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell nootrope about skype
[04:17] <arrick> corvax: its telling me that there is no desktop directory.
[04:17] <corvax> yeah its case sensitive
[04:17] <bimberi> nootrope: you use the 'dpkg' command to install local .deb files.  That said, the skype package on their website doesn't work in ubuntu, see the /msg ubotu has sent you
[04:17] <corvax> its Desktop
[04:17] <corvax> not desktop
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  Desktop is different from 'desktop' :P
[04:17] <arrick> tried that too
[04:17] <Hagge_> cubikdice: also always google for it instead, there are so much ubuntu documentation on the webpages that simple stuff like that are very likely to be documented.
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> try 'ls' and see whats there
[04:18] <corvax> like this arrick cd /home/arick/Desktop
[04:18] <nootrope> bimberi, thanks very much
[04:18] <bimberi> nootrope: np :)
[04:18] <Hagge_> do cd ~/Desktop
[04:18] <Hagge_> incase you are typing something else wrong ;)
[04:18] <corvax> or that
[04:18] <corvax> lol
[04:18] <Hagge_> like your username or whatever ;/
[04:18] <arrick> found it thanks
[04:18] <Hagge_> so, noone knew how to "downgrade" packages? :D
[04:18] <AngryElf> rc0.d = shutdown and rc6.d = reboot......is this correct?
[04:19] <h0nus> i received a link for the SAP/R3 module but am having trouble finding a tar file to download
[04:19] <h0nus> http://www.sap.com/solutions/netweaver/linux/eval/index.asp
[04:19] <nismo> Im tryin to install a lexmark printer following the steps found here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714  I cant seem to get the alien thing though
[04:19] <nismo> any help? plz :(
[04:19] <h0nus> can someone help?
[04:19] <Hagge_> Runlevel 0 is used to halt the system, runlevel 6 is used to reboot the system
[04:19] <cubikdice> Hagge_, i will from now on :)
[04:19] <Hagge_> AngryElf: from man init
[04:19] <Hagge_> AngryElf: so yes
[04:19] <neo911> what's the difference between ping 192.168.1.0 and ping 192.168.1.255 both are broadcast right?
[04:19] <nismo> :(
[04:20] <Hagge_> neo911: .0 are the network address
[04:20] <Hagge_> .255 are broadcast
[04:20] <cubikdice> brb
[04:20] <Hagge_> and it's only true if the netmask is 255.255.255.0
[04:20] <adam_> another question : i added a url to the add a application section now it wont load the list it just comes up and keeps trying to load and never times out
[04:20] <zenbum> .0 used to be broadcast on BSD systems long ago
[04:20] <tehubersheezy> hi everyone
[04:20] <Hagge_> zenbum: i had no idea
[04:20] <arrick> tar -xf what is xubuntu's version of fileroller?
[04:20] <bimberi> nismo: is there an error message?  use the pastebin if it's long
[04:21] <nismo> no sir
[04:21] <tehubersheezy> hello
[04:22] <something_else> how do I resize an image from console
[04:22] <chavo> something_else, use convert, it's in the ImageMagick package
[04:22] <arrick> corvax: I'm in the directory, found the fils, but the tar commands arent working
[04:22] <something_else> cheers chavo
[04:22] <corvax> i thought you said it was untared already?
[04:22] <chavo> something_else, np
[04:23] <arrick> corvax: it is unzipped
[04:23] <arrick> corvax: this is what the file says 'CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR  vmlinuz'
[04:23] <nismo> wow
[04:23] <nismo> lol corvax having similar probs to me?
[04:24] <Hagge_> arrick: tar xvf <filename>
[04:24] <corvax> tar -xvf CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR
[04:24] <cabajgtr> How do you change the default desktop icon size in gnome?
[04:24] <tehubersheezy> what does the -xvf do?
[04:24] <Hagge_> arrick: x = extract, v = verbose, f = file     and eventually z for gzipped file or j for bzipped
[04:24] <Dr_Willis>  you dont =need a  -
[04:24] <tehubersheezy> oh
[04:24] <corvax> v for ver
[04:24] <arrick> got it thanks
[04:24] <corvax> yah bose
[04:25] <Hagge_> arrick: and c to create an archive instead if you ever want to
[04:25] <PistolPedro> how do i control if volumes are displayed on the desktop?
[04:25] <arrick> yeah Dr_willis: the tutorial about tar was telling me otherwise, so I was doing it wrong
[04:25] <arrick> thanks guys
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> PistolPedro,  its in the control-pane entrys somewhere.
[04:25] <tehubersheezy> hey everyone, is there a way to extract a 7z file?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  its an old tutorial then :P
[04:25] <Hagge_> arrick: depends on which version of tar you use i suppose
[04:25] <tehubersheezy> i couldn't find it in the repositories
[04:25] <Hagge_> gnu tar, bsd tar, solaris tar, ... ;D
[04:25] <PistolPedro> Dr_Willis, in the config editor ?
[04:25] <arrick> ok
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> thenuke,  theres a tool to do it.. i installed it the other day
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> PistolPedro,  No.. in the normal settings menus, its in there somewhere.
[04:26] <arrick> thats the on on here when you type !tar
[04:26] <nismo> how do i convert .rpm's into tar's??????
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> Exploring Gnome  is fun.
[04:26] <arrick> thanks to all who have helped me
[04:26] <corvax> use c
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> nismo,  why would you need to?
[04:26] <arrick> yep
[04:26] <nismo> well
[04:26] <nismo> Im tryin to install a lexmark printer following the steps found here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714  I cant seem to get the alien thing though
[04:26] <Hagge_> nismo: rpm are packages for other distributions, i think there are utilities to convert them but i suppose you are quite likely to run into troubles doing so
[04:26] <nismo> i c
[04:26] <Hagge_> nismo: so get .deb packages or compile from source code instead
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> nismo,  the 'advance bash scripting  guide' has a example script that does that i recall.
[04:27] <corvax> whats wronfg with alien
[04:27] <corvax> whats the error?
[04:27] <nismo> no its command
[04:27] <corvax> is alien isntalled?
[04:27] <nismo> that asks me to use alien
[04:27] <nismo> idk what is alien lol
[04:27] <corvax> alien converts rmps
[04:27] <nismo> i c
[04:27] <corvax> to debian
[04:27] <bimberi> nismo: is alien installed?  'sudo aptitude install alien'
[04:27] <corvax> packages
[04:27] <nismo> so i should get alien
[04:27] <nismo> ok lemme do that
[04:28] <corvax> nismo thats whiy  i like to get info on wikis
[04:28] <corvax> because if somthings missing you can ad i
[04:28] <corvax> add it
[04:28] <corvax> ;)
[04:28] <nismo> tru
[04:28] <NickGarvey> is there a way to get aptitiude to determine what I have installed and have it help me clean up?  I always used apt-get but I know I have a lot of things I don't need laying around on my computer that I would like to clean up
[04:28] <PistolPedro> Dr_Willis, actually, it's in the nautilus section under apps in gconf-editor
[04:29] <chavo> NickGarvey, you can make a list of installed packages
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> PistolPedro,  thers an easier tool -  then usine gcnf-editor.
[04:29] <liable> NickGarvey: debfoster and deborphan are good for this purpose
[04:30] <NickGarvey> I have ran orphan but it only found 2 things, I am sure their are more
[04:30] <corvax> but if you install things that arent debian packages
[04:30] <NickGarvey> I'll try foster
[04:30] <corvax> they wont help
[04:30] <NickGarvey> I always used apt-get
[04:30] <AngryElf> hey all, what would cause mounting nfs shares to take 1-2 minutes to mount per share??
[04:30] <corvax> ya goot manually do everything
[04:30] <NickGarvey> I don't compile well ;)
[04:31] <Hagge_> Is it possible to automatically downgrade installed packages of which there are only an older version in the /etc/apt/sources.list source/mirrors?
[04:31] <odat> hi everyone
[04:31] <liable> NickGarvey: neither will delete compiled packages as they are not in the apt database.
[04:31] <liable> NickGarvey: you have to delete that stuff yourself.
[04:31] <odat> i just deleted a bunch of huge files as root through nautilus but my available free space didn't change  any ideas?
[04:31] <fiveiron> whats a good app for creating dvd's from video files?
[04:32] <NickGarvey> liable: not a problem, I can't compile anything to save my life ;)
[04:32] <amgad> guys, can anyone please help me in a networking issue, i cann't connect to my laptop using crossover cable
[04:32] <Hagge_> odat: was they moved to some sort of trashcan? small files? maybe someone is still using them so they will be removed for real then they are stopped being used
[04:33] <amgad> the eth0 is active, but they just can't see each other..
[04:33] <Hagge_> amgad: you have an ip on the same network address set on both machines?
[04:33] <odat> Hagge_, they are not in the trash can and i restarted the machine
[04:33] <Hagge_> odat: no idea then, either you have the remember the old size wrong or they where small files maybe?
[04:33] <corvax> dvd::rip
[04:33] <corvax> or
[04:33] <corvax> k9copy
[04:34] <amgad> Hagge_, yeah, both on the 192.168.0.x range, mask 255.255.255.0, and gatway 192.168.0.1
[04:34] <odat> Hagge_, no they were huge video files
[04:34] <Hagge_> odat: are you sure they are removed?
[04:34] <bimberi> odat: they are probably still in a .Trash directory, probably in roots home directory (/root)
[04:35] <odat> bimberi, the root has its own trash?
[04:35] <amgad> Hagge_, i don't know what else i should do..
[04:35] <Hagge_> amgad: and both interfaces are up and you try to connect thru ips? using what?
[04:35] <corvax> ya goota use rm -rf to delete them
[04:35] <corvax> gotta
[04:35] <bimberi> odat: if you logged in as root and deleted files in nautilus it will - or did you run nautilus with (gk)sudo from your user account?
[04:35] <amgad> Hagge_, i tried to ping, or access apache using the ips on web browser, i have apache running on both of them, nothing
[04:35] <h0nus> what's the command to unpack a .tgz file?
[04:35] <amgad> Hagge_, when i ping i get strange stuff
[04:36] <Hagge_> h0nus: tar xvfz file
[04:36] <h0nus> ty
[04:36] <Hagge_> amgad: are you sure the cable are ok?
[04:36] <Blue-Steel> guys .. i instaled ubuntu and then win2003 . now grub got "replaced" by win boot . how can u get grub back again ? i tried to chroot into ubuntu but i had only read perms.
[04:36] <amgad> Hagge_, yeah, it's working fine on windows
[04:36] <odat> bimberi, i used the run as different user tool and ran nautilus as root    it ask for my sudo password
[04:36] <NickGarvey> thanks whoever told me about debfoster "After unpacking 48.7MB disk space will be freed." :)
[04:36] <Hagge_> amgad: i don't know then :/
[04:36] <fiveiron> whats a good app for creating dvd's from video files?
[04:37] <corvax> i mistook a straightthru cable for crossover once
[04:37] <amgad> can it be a firewall problem, i run firestarter on the desktop, should i allow something on it?
[04:37] <corvax> talk about pissed after finally looking at the cable
[04:37] <corvax> after mssing with configs for hours
[04:37] <Hagge_> amgad: ifconfig -a says "UP" for both machines on eth0?
[04:37] <bimberi> odat: ah, then the files might be in your own .Trash.  Have you tried emptying the Trash? (right-clicking on its icon at bottom right of screen)
[04:38] <Hagge_> i would still try another cable or something, dunno
[04:38] <odat> bimberi, i just found them in my .trash directory under root
[04:38] <amgad> Hagge_, yeah
[04:38] <odat> bimberi, how do i delete them from there?
[04:38] <Hagge_> amgad: maybe the firewall blocks all private ips
[04:38] <Hagge_> so try turning it off then
[04:38] <amgad> Hagge_, when i ping i see packets transmitting, but noone replies
[04:38] <arrick> corvax: according to the linuxprint tutorial, i am suppossed to run this command 'sudo alien --to-deb *.rpm
[04:38] <arrick> ', and it hangs up the systm?
[04:39] <Hagge_> amgad: quite likely the firewall drops pings to
[04:39] <amgad> Hagge_, i did turn it off, the same thing
[04:39] <Hagge_> k
[04:39] <odat> i got it
[04:39] <bimberi> odat: using 'sudo rm' from a terminal
[04:39] <corvax> well ive never used the to deb  part
[04:39] <bimberi> odat: ah kk
[04:39] <corvax> maybe ive been doing it wrong
[04:39] <Hagge_> amgad: http doesn't work with the firewall turned of either?
[04:39] <corvax> but ive always done sudo alien filename.rmp
[04:39] <Hagge_> odat: rm -rf /root/.trash/*
[04:39] <corvax> then it keeps the old rmp
[04:39] <corvax> and creates an debian package
[04:40] <tehubersheezy> what is -rf do
[04:40] <amgad> Hagge_, no, it doesn't
[04:40] <Hagge_> tehubersheezy: makes it not ask any questions and accept to remove dirs which contains files
[04:40] <amgad> Hagge_, wehn i ping from the desktop it says "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"
[04:40] <tehubersheezy> k thx
[04:40] <corvax> remove foreve
[04:40] <corvax> lol
[04:40] <Hagge_> maybe you have to be root to ping? ;/
[04:40] <amgad> Hagge_, when i ping from laptop, it says nothing at all
[04:40] <Hagge_> i dunno
[04:40] <tehubersheezy> i'm pretty bad at ubuntu
[04:40] <Luzer> anyone have experence with XGL and ATI
[04:40] <NickGarvey> Hagge_: doubt it
[04:40] <fiveiron> holy cow... /me humps tvTime
[04:41] <amgad> Hagge_, nah, don't think so..
[04:41] <NickGarvey> Hagge_: nope
[04:41] <ferdl> Luzer: only with kororaa-sgl-demo live-cd :)
[04:42] <Hagge_> amgad:
[04:42] <Hagge_> http://lists.virus.org/grsec-0406/msg00014.html
[04:42] <Luzer> did it work for you
[04:42] <arrick> corvax: it took all this time to do anything, and created 2 files, so I guess I asked prematurely.
[04:42] <amgad> Hagge_, is there anything i forgot to configure, can u guide me to a tutorial or something to follow, i don't think it is that hard to connect two machines
[04:42] <Hagge_> http://lists.virus.org/grsec-0406/msg00015.html
[04:42] <Hagge_> but i have no idea if any of those are correct ;)
[04:42] <corvax> yeah it takes a while
[04:42] <amgad> Hagge_, k, reading
[04:42] <ferdl> Luzer: works pretty good... well.. till it crashes ;)
[04:42] <corvax> now do sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[04:42] <zenbum> Luzer: i couldn't get XGL to work with a Radeon 9600
[04:42] <nismo> sigh
[04:43] <nismo> im never gonna get this to work
[04:43] <Hagge_> http://lists.infodrom.org/linux-stammtisch/2005/0050.html
[04:43] <arrick> yea I got that part, thanks
[04:43] <Hagge_> amgad: i would guess it's an issue with your firewall still
[04:43] <amgad> Hagge_, yeah i googled it too :) didnt help either
[04:43] <Hagge_> are you sure it opens all ports when you remove it?
[04:43] <Luzer> im haveing the same problem
[04:43] <Luzer> 9700 radeon
[04:43] <corvax> disable the firewall!
[04:43] <corvax> see if ti works
[04:43] <Hagge_> the later one had a file for removing all iptables rules
[04:44] <corvax> thatll eliminate that possibility
[04:44] <Hagge_> i have no idea if you firewall used iptables thought, i have only used bsd ipf/pf (atleast lately) so i don't know how it works in linux
[04:44] <robson> away
[04:44] <amgad> Hagge_, am not sure about that, i don't know if i just close firestarter would disable thef firewall, or is it just a gui to iptables?
[04:44] <nismo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 <<<< Need help with that
[04:44] <Hagge_> amgad: start firestarter again and see if you can disable it from there
[04:45] <fiveiron> anyone using the tv output on their nvidia card?
[04:45] <zenbum> Luzer: my screen cleared & it showed the spinning-pizza-of-death icon, but never finished initializing... log file didn't reveal much... i gave up fairly quickly
[04:45] <corvax> five ive used it in the past
[04:45] <Hagge_> or try running http://www.i21k.de/clearfirewall  as root and see if it works afterward
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> fiveiron,  i have. :P
[04:45] <corvax> from the laptop
[04:45] <corvax> and used it on one with ati
[04:45] <_jason> !lart stoned
[04:45] <fiveiron> could you point me to some docs on getting that working?
[04:45] <Hagge_> (or just paste the text in an su shell)
[04:45] <_jason> eek wrong channel
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> fiveiron,  i isntalled the nvidia drivers. and the thing defaulted to the tv out.. i had to twiddle with twinview to get X back off the tv. :P
[04:45] <amgad> Hagge_, well, am sure i have port 80 open in the firewall, i access it from remote machines, so i should be able to see it from the labtop
[04:45] <nismo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 <<<< Need help with that
[04:45] <nismo> sudo tar xvzf z600cups-1.0.tgz -C im on that step
[04:45] <h0nus> can someone help me find a module? it's sapr3 or SAP/R3
[04:46] <amgad> Hagge_, i don't think its a firewall problem
[04:46] <nismo> cant get passed it
[04:46] <corvax> well it worked ootb
[04:46] <Hagge_> amgad: if the firewall doesn't block all ips which belongs to private networks
[04:46] <Hagge_> amgad: maybe apache only listens on your external ip?
[04:46] <Hagge_> and not all?
[04:46] <corvax> all i had to do is plug the thing into tv out and unhook the monitor
[04:46] <corvax> and it "just worked"
[04:46] <Hagge_> there is a setting for that in httpd.conf, hold
[04:47] <h0nus> also, i'm having trouble installing libssh
[04:47] <amgad> well, i added a policy in the firewall to allow connection from that ip, it didn't help :(
[04:47] <amgad> Hagge_,
[04:47] <Luzer> i get "*** CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG needs to be enabled in the kernel." and i found http://www.irclogs.ws/freenode/kernel/28Oct2005/2.html
[04:47] <takeshi> hello ubuntu community
[04:47] <Luzer> it says that i shouldnt try it
[04:47] <Hagge_> amgad: grep -i listen <your httpd.conf>
[04:47] <Luzer> hi
[04:47] <Elhaz> Hello
[04:47] <Elhaz> somebody helpme---
[04:47] <takeshi> im kinda having trouble installing ubuntu
[04:48] <Luzer> i did try the live cd. let me tell you. !
[04:48] <takeshi> after copying everything, when i restart, grub just says "error 17"
[04:48] <corvax> takeshi whats the prob
[04:48] <amgad> Hagge_, erm, nothing !
[04:48] <Elhaz> how can install Automatix to listen MP3
[04:48] <corvax> ah
[04:48] <takeshi> and them, i tried lilo instead
[04:48] <Hagge_> amgad: this is what mine says:
[04:48] <Elhaz> i try sudo dpkg -i automatix_5.4-4_i386.deb
[04:48] <takeshi> it hangs with an 'l' and a bunch of 99
[04:49] <fiveiron> i can't wait till the xgl folks complete more of their mission.  using opengl to minimize desktop memory usage.. its going to be great
[04:49] <Luzer> do you think it is safe to recompile
[04:49] <Elhaz> but.. the ask is.... i need have the file to install in a determinate Directory=
[04:49] <Hagge_> amgad: http://pastebin.com/624313
[04:49] <amgad> Hagge_, is is /etc/apache2/http.d ??
[04:49] <takeshi> any clues? im stuck with this for the entire weekend now...
[04:49] <Hagge_> anyway, i don't have time for this, good luck =P
[04:49] <gfx> how can I change the mouse wheel sensitivity for GTK apps like firefox, it doesnt seem to obey KDE's Control center
[04:49] <Hagge_> amgad: i have no idea for debian
[04:49] <Hagge_> amgad: locate httpd.conf
[04:50] <Hagge_> or find / -name 'httpd.conf'
[04:50] <corvax> got it after testing the windows
[04:50] <corvax> partion>
[04:50] <takeshi> nop
[04:51] <Elhaz> ....
[04:51] <Hagge_> amgad: i have mine in /etc/opt/apache/httpd.conf but that's because i told the configure script to put it there :/
[04:51] <corvax> you dont need automatix just formpe  just install lame
[04:51] <arrick> corvax: now that I have the drivers installed, how do I get the printer recognized?
[04:51] <takeshi> i couldnt even start the first time... but i had windows installed
[04:51] <Hagge_> amgad: i hope you solve it, feel free to pm me the reason afterwards
[04:51] <useruser> gfx: oi
[04:51] <corvax> goto system
[04:51] <amgad> Hagge_, k, thanks very much
[04:51] <corvax> then administration
[04:51] <corvax> printers
[04:52] <corvax> see if its there
[04:52] <toxik660> hey does anyone on here have any experience with running windows inside of ubuntu,
[04:52] <Absenth> what's the driver name for the Alsa sound system?
[04:52] <Absenth> ie, for oss, the driver is I guess called "oss"
[04:52] <gfx> Dr_Willis: help me
[04:52] <motin> how do i use an ISP's smtp-server to send emails? i just want the php mail() up and running, and it has to be through another port than 25...
[04:52] <arrick> I hate accidentally logging off here
[04:52] <PistolPedro> gfx, ?
[04:52] <desrt> how do i change ubuntu's perception of what my grub boot device is?
[04:52] <PistolPedro> gfx, why you ctc ?
[04:52] <seth> gfx, quit pinging me
[04:52] <gfx> how can I change the mouse wheel sensitivity for GTK apps like firefox, it doesnt seem to obey KDE's Control center?
[04:53] <PistolPedro> stop that shit
[04:53] <gfx> sory......
[04:53] <desrt> i go into the file and change (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) but every time i reinstall a kernel it changes it back
[04:53] <gfx> PistolPedro: sorry
[04:53] <arrick> Dr_WIllis: how do I get the printer recognized, now that I have the driver installed?
[04:53] <Hagge_> gfx: you are happy with my reply? ;/
[04:53] <raphink> gfx: using konversation on kubuntu dapper powerpc :p
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> gfx,  i suggest checkingout the wiki/forums.  and google.
[04:54] <gfx> Hagge_: whats ur reply?
[04:54] <Elhaz> how can i install with DPKG??
[04:54] <toxik660> ************************** hey can someone help me, im trying to figure out how too boot windows xp inside of ubuntu, im new to ubuntu just installed it
[04:54] <raphink> gfx: for your interest, it is not considered polite in the IRC culture to /ctcp version people like that ;)
[04:54] <raphink> or ctcp ping
[04:55] <NickGarvey> !dualboot
[04:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:55] <h0nus> can anyone help me find a module?
[04:55] <gfx> raphink: wats '/ctcp'?
[04:55] <toxik660> thnk you. ill check it out
[04:55] <raphink> Elhaz: why do you want to install with dpkg ?
[04:55] <raphink> gfx: what you did on me 4 times ina row
[04:55] <Elhaz> Automatix..
[04:55] <raphink> Elhaz: then don't
[04:55] <gfx> wats the use with PING?
[04:55] <raphink> automatix is not good
[04:55] <NickGarvey> !ping
[04:55] <PhilKC> !pong
[04:55] <ubotu> pong
[04:55] <ubotu> PhilKC: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:55] <gfx> i just type /ping #ubuntu
[04:55] <raphink> it is not officially suipported
[04:55] <Elhaz> then--i just wanna listen music..
[04:55] <raphink> and you don't need it
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Automatix - 'just say no!'
[04:56] <gfx> whats that?
[04:56] <raphink> !restrictedformats
[04:56] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:56] <NickGarvey> haha yeah Dr_Willis
[04:56] <raphink> Elhaz: look at the link ubotu just gave
[04:56] <Elhaz> but.. how can i listen mo3?
[04:56] <Elhaz> mp3
[04:56] <NickGarvey> !mp3
[04:56] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:56] <Elhaz> i know.. but.. i don`t understand
[04:56] <Hagge_> raphink: anyone are allowed to ctcp version me!
[04:56] <NickGarvey> same site Elhaz
[04:56] <raphink> Elhaz: and don't ask twice the same question when it has been answered
[04:56] <NickGarvey> Elhaz: just go to it
[04:56] <Elhaz> let me see...
[04:56] <raphink> you've got a link, click on it and read
[04:56] <arrick> corvax: how do I get the printer to recognize once the drivers are installed?
[04:56] <Hagge_> raphink: I'm proud of my version reply ;)
[04:56] <Hagge_> irssi v0.8.10 - running on SunOS i86pc
[04:57] <Luzer> how hard it is to remove the ati driver and put in the nvid?
[04:57] <arrick> using xubuntu
[04:57] <raphink> Hagge_: good'u
[04:57] <raphink> good4u
[04:57] <davidmoore83> hi again arrick
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  it should show up in the printer config tools :P
[04:57] <arrick> Hi davidmoore83:
[04:57] <raphink> arrick: I don't know xubuntu in particular
[04:57] <corvax> arick did you goto system> adminstration >printers
[04:57] <corvax> was it there
[04:57] <raphink> yet you can use http://localhost:631
[04:57] <raphink> to set yor printer
[04:57] <arrick> Where you from davidmoore83:
[04:57] <toxik660> ubuto that link was very helpfull. thanks a bunch
[04:58] <Hagge_> gfx: to see how much others lagged relative you
[04:58] <NickGarvey> !bot
[04:58] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:58] <davidmoore83> arrick: flight 4 solved the hard drive light issue - though it still doesnt recognise my CPU. MAnchester UK you?
[04:58] <raphink> corvax: arrick said he's on xubuntu
[04:58] <corvax> ohhhh
[04:58] <corvax> shit
[04:58] <h0nus> is there any way i can search for modules (i'm looking for sapr3)?
[04:58] <corvax> dorry
[04:58] <Hagge_> gfx: that is how long it takes to send a message to them and get a reply
[04:58] <corvax> sorry
[04:58] <corvax> lol
[04:58] <NickGarvey> !language
[04:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:58] <Intangir> whats IPSec? isnt that a VPN thing?
[04:58] <gfx> Hagge_: wat bad can it do?
[04:58] <arrick> MI, but we have the same last names
[04:58] <mtakeshi> im forgoten...
[04:58] <raphink> gfx: it can flood some connections ;)
[04:59] <raphink> prevent people from posting sometiems if you abuse it
[04:59] <arrick> ipsec is a microsoft networking thing
[04:59] <davidmoore83> arrick: what your surname is more? do you know how to get a britsh keyboard layout in flight 4? can only seem to get a US one
[04:59] <Elhaz> how can i install gstreamer0.8-mad??
[04:59] <mtakeshi> corvax? anyone?
[04:59] <Hagge_> gfx: nothing, back in the days getting a lot of those could make the replys to big so that the network speed where slowed down or the server disconnected users because they tried to send so much
[04:59] <davidmoore83> arrick: correction Moore
[04:59] <_jason> Elhaz: enable universe and use synaptic
[04:59] <arrick> yeah
[04:59] <Hagge_> gfx: not very likely to happen nowadays if there aren't like 30.000 people pinging you are once ;)
[04:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell Elhaz about universe
[04:59] <Hagge_> -are+at
[04:59] <Elhaz> tahanks.. i will do that..
[04:59] <gfx> Hagge_: then thers no problem
[05:00] <davidmoore83> ANYONE know how to get an english UK keyboard layout in flight 4?
[05:00] <Hagge_> gfx: i suppose people bitch about it just to bitch about it, but no use to do it four times thought ;)
[05:00] <arrick> I dont know much about ubuntu, or linux for thatr matter, just started using it friday morning
[05:00] <Elhaz> with synaptic?.. and.. where i save the fiel gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:00] <Elhaz> for install
[05:00] <Elhaz> file*
[05:00] <PistolPedro> davidmoore83, it is GB i believe
[05:00] <Hagge_> arrick: ipsec isn't a microsoft network thing ;D
[05:00] <raphink> Elhaz: I'd suggest you also enable multiverse and install libxine-extracodecs
[05:00] <gfx> Hagge_: ok, so how do I let firefox follow KDE's mouse cursor setting
[05:00] <raphink> Elhaz: you don't save files for install
[05:00] <raphink> this is not windows :p
[05:00] <corvax> xfce has a printer manager
[05:00] <corvax> i think
[05:00] <Elhaz> yeah i know..
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell Elhaz about synaptic
[05:00] <mtakeshi> grub error 17? anyone?
[05:00] <corvax> i havent used it in a long time
[05:00] <Hagge_> Intangir: ipsec is encrypted network communication, i don't think you have to use it for just vpns but you can use it for those to
[05:00] <davidmoore83> PistolPedro: there is no GB in my list
[05:01] <raphink> Elhaz: synaptic ltes your install programs directly without downloading files manually
[05:01] <arrick> gfx: it is called a denial of service attack by many network admins
[05:01] <Elhaz> but i can`t connect to internet....
[05:01] <PistolPedro> davidmoore83, hmm.. UK ?
[05:01] <Elhaz> because my fucking modem is winmodem..
[05:01] <Elhaz> and i download gstreamer0.8-mad...
[05:01] <raphink> huhu
[05:01] <raphink> how did  you download it?
[05:01] <Se7h> Elhaz :D
[05:01] <raphink> ok then
[05:01] <Hagge_> gfx: no idea
[05:01] <raphink> Elhaz: dpkg -i yourpackage.deb
[05:01] <raphink> with sudo
[05:01] <arrick> hagge_: I havent seen is used many other places, though I am new to Linux
[05:01] <Hagge_> gfx: use konqueror? ;D
[05:01] <luigi> hola
[05:01] <gfx> Im used to firefox
[05:01] <Elhaz> i know dpkg -i package.deb..
[05:01] <Hagge_> arrick: i would guess the bsds had support long before windows, and probably linux to
[05:01] <davidmoore83> PistolPedro: got it now.....on the install from Live CD it doesnt give you that option but in the full install it allows it! weird!
[05:01] <raphink> so sudo dpkg -i gstreamer0.8-mad_whateverversionyouhave.deb
[05:02] <Elhaz> but... where a save the file to install????'
[05:02] <Elhaz> i save*
[05:02] <PistolPedro> davidmoore83, :-P
[05:02] <raphink> Elhaz: wherever you want
[05:02] <Elhaz> wherever---- ,,,,, mmmm
[05:02] <raphink> it doesn't matter
[05:02] <davidmoore83> well its taken me 8 hrs to solve this HD issue tonight PistolPedro, arrick...... its 4am here :/
[05:02] <Hagge_> arrick: setting up a vpn using ipsec between different oses is a bitch, atleast to a newbie as me
[05:02] <Hagge_> arrick: never got it working ;/
[05:02] <raphink> just save it wherever, then run sudo dpkg -i on it
[05:02] <arrick> yeah
[05:02] <Elhaz> i will try...
[05:02] <Elhaz> and.. with synaptic is the same??
[05:02] <PistolPedro> davidmoore83, what HD issue
[05:02] <arrick> yeah
[05:03] <Hagge_> arrick: windows uses something else for vpns to
[05:03] <Hagge_> arrick: which is easier to set up, don't know what it's called thought ;D
[05:03] <arrick> sometimes
[05:03] <batman> can someone tell me the command to list devices/
[05:03] <PistolPedro> lspci
[05:03] <raphink> wow more than 2 hours to build kdelibs on my powerbook :(
[05:03] <raphink> batman: what devices ?
[05:03] <davidmoore83> PistolPedro: my HD light was on constantly - no flicker or anything also my CPU is not recognised though this hasn't been solved in flight 4 yet though the HD issue has
[05:03] <batman> hard drives
[05:03] <raphink> batman: you can list all  your hardware with lshw
[05:03] <batman> possibly partitions
[05:03] <Hagge_> batman: df -h
[05:03] <raphink> at
[05:03] <Hagge_> are probably what you want
[05:03] <Hagge_> or mount
[05:04] <Hagge_> or fdisk
[05:04] <raphink> cat /proc/partitions
[05:04] <PistolPedro> davidmoore83, bleeding edge computer ?
[05:04] <raphink> lists all the partitions
[05:04] <raphink> df only lists the mounted ones
[05:04] <h0nus> i need help-- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10886
[05:04] <raphink> mount , too
[05:04] <Elhaz> thanks mens..
[05:04] <raphink> lshw lists the hardware
[05:04] <davidmoore83> indeed PistolPedro ....... well 6 months old but it was very bleeding edge then
[05:04] <raphink> Elhaz: you're welcome
[05:04] <batman> well i'm booted from a live cd
[05:05] <slide> Ok, so I have a harddrive with ubuntu and another with xp, I want to dual boot them, how do i modify the drives so that i can get in to both and ubuntu comes up by default
[05:05] <Elhaz> i`m wo newbie with linux.. i install yesterday in my computer :P
[05:05] <raphink> batman: so?
[05:05] <batman> wanting to mount my hdd to it some i can fix grub
[05:05] <batman> so*
[05:05] <arrick> Anyone out ther can help with xubuntu?
[05:05] <arrick> getting the printer recognized?
[05:05] <raphink> batman: do you know the partition number for it ?
[05:05] <davidmoore83> slide when you install ubuntu it should set that up automatically
[05:05] <arrick> drivers are installed already
[05:05] <batman> i think its hda2
[05:05] <slide> davidmoore83, I already have ubuntu and windows installed
[05:05] <raphink> arrick: I tell you, use http://localhost:631
[05:05] <davidmoore83> slide which did you install first?
[05:05] <arrick> ok
[05:05] <arrick> sorry
[05:06] <slide> davidmoore83, well, I installed ubuntu on a clean harddrive and then I removed the harddrive and put anther harddrive in and installed windows on that
[05:06] <raphink> batman: then sudo mount /dev/hda2
[05:06] <raphink> is it ext3 batman?
[05:07] <raphink> if it's ext3, then
[05:07] <batman> yeah
[05:07] <batman> i tried
[05:07] <arrick> raphink: it refuses to allow any admin functions. even from the same computer
[05:07] <raphink> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt
[05:07] <raphink> arrick: ah :(
[05:07] <h0nus> is there another channel i can go to for help with software?
[05:07] <batman> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 to the dir
[05:07] <batman> but it didn't work
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> h0nus,  depends on the software
[05:07] <raphink> you can set that in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf arrick
[05:07] <raphink> but well
[05:07] <raphink> batman: what do you get?
[05:08] <h0nus> i'm trying to install hydra for network security, but i'm running into problems
[05:08] <davidmoore83> slide http://archives.devshed.com/forums/comp-os-linux-redhat-55/installing-grub-for-dual-boot-1751740.html
[05:08] <raphink> dunno this soft
[05:08] <davidmoore83> hope that helps?
[05:08] <batman> wrong file system type bad superblock on /dev/hda2
[05:08] <slide> davidmoore83, thanks :)
[05:08] <raphink> batman: are you sure this is hda2 ?
[05:08] <raphink> ;)
[05:08] <h0nus> Dr_Willis: i have a pastebin link if you want
[05:09] <davidmoore83> slide if it doesnt a general google about Grub setup is what your looking for
[05:09] <slide> k
[05:09] <batman> yeah
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> h0nus,  i doubt if i can help much
[05:09] <raphink> batman: try and identify your parition from `cat /proc/partitions`
[05:09] <h0nus> do you know of a channel for applications?
[05:09] <raphink> h0nus: there are channels for most open-source projects
[05:09] <davidmoore83> anyway peeps its 4:10am here in the UK..... so......g'nite :)
[05:10] <raphink> if your soft is an open-source project, you can try #hydra ;)
[05:10] <Elhaz> can i install Amarok in Gnome?
[05:10] <raphink> else #ubuntu-security maybe
[05:10] <arrick> how do I find out my IP in ubuntu server, with terminal?
[05:10] <raphink> Elhaz: sure but it's not wise
[05:10] <bimberi> arrick: ifconfig
[05:10] <arrick> thanks
[05:10] <raphink> Elhaz: if yo'ure gonna use gnome, I suggest you use kde
[05:10] <Elhaz> ;)
[05:10] <batman> raphink thankies its hda3
[05:10] <batman> not 2
[05:10] <batman> :P
[05:10] <raphink> because amarok will install and use the kde libs
[05:10] <raphink> batman: ;)
[05:10] <Elhaz> why is better kde??
[05:10] <raphink> Elhaz: amarok is a kde app
[05:10] <raphink> it uses the kdelibs
[05:11] <raphink> so if you use amarok in gnome
[05:11] <Elhaz> ajhhhp...
[05:11] <h0nus> raphink, i'm not sure if hydra is open-source project or not
[05:11] <raphink> you will load both kde and gnome libs
[05:11] <batman> raphink by the way its gentoo i'm fixing lol
[05:11] <Elhaz> ajhh now i understand..
[05:11] <raphink> batman: good4u
[05:11] <Elhaz> but what es better, KDE or GNOME?
[05:11] <batman> raphink: yeah wanted to try it out
[05:11] <raphink> Elhaz: + I'm a kubuntu dev and a bit of advertising won't kill ;)
[05:11] <batman> Elhaz fluxbox is best
[05:11] <SEJeff> Elhaz: that depends on your opinion. I've used linux about 7 years. I prefer gnome
[05:11] <raphink> Elhaz: try them out and get your own opnion ;)
[05:11] <raphink> opinion
[05:11] <SEJeff> Elhaz: My parents use gnome and LOVE it
[05:11] <PistolPedro> take that discussion to ubuntu-offtopic
[05:12] <Elhaz> Ok.. thanks ;)
[05:12] <raphink> I only like KDE :)
[05:12] <arrick> gnome :))
[05:12] <batman> raphink what are you thinking FLUXBOX!!!!
[05:12] <raphink> PistolPedro: :p
[05:12] <batman> anyone else here try out gentoo?
[05:12] <arrick> raphink: I have the file open, now what?
[05:13] <raphink> arrick: argh... hehe well in the /admin section, you should have Allow From localhost
[05:13] <arrick> setting the user and stuff for the http://localhost:631
[05:13] <raphink> around like 700 something I think
[05:13] <raphink> s/like/line/
[05:14] <raphink> I don't have a breezy box here and this file changed in dapper
[05:14] <raphink> so I can't check the lines number
[05:15] <arrick> where the allow from 127.0.0.1 is?
[05:15] <raphink> wait a min
[05:15] <twirpie> say i've used wine to install mirc but now have decided i dont want mirc how would i go about removing it?
[05:15] <venox> hey. can I use the dapper cds to upgrade my breezy install to dapper? (when the dapper cds are avaiable, sure)
[05:15] <raphink> arrick: http://pastebin.com/624336
[05:15] <raphink> find this section and get sure you have this
[05:15] <_jason> venox: yes
[05:15] <Joetheodd> twirpie: rm -rf ~/.wine/fake_windows/Program Files/*mirc*
[05:15] <venox> hmm
[05:15] <zach> ok i installed the dvd thing on wiki but when i try to play the dvd it says'Faild to find mountpoing for devicd /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab' what do i d?
[05:15] <raphink> 127.0.0.1 is localhost, so it's fine too
[05:15] <venox> that's nice :)
[05:16] <raphink> and it might well say Allow From instead of Allow
[05:16] <raphink> doen't matter
[05:16] <twirpie> thanks
[05:16] <raphink> arrick: could you find it?
[05:16] <arrick> thanks
[05:16] <raphink> arrick: did you have to change something in it?
[05:17] <raphink> arrick: of course if you want to mofidy this file, you have to use sudo to edit it...
[05:17] <gfx> which is better an imac G5 dual-C or a clone with UBUNTU?
[05:17] <raphink> clone ?
[05:17] <raphink> what is a clone?
[05:17] <SEJeff> gfx: A PC with Ubuntu...
[05:18] <raphink> I prefer powerpcs :)
[05:18] <cafuego> gfx: More software "just works" on a standard pc.
[05:18] <gfx> raphink: are you un UBUNTU as well?
[05:18] <raphink> gfx: sure
[05:18] <raphink> cafuego: not significantly
[05:18] <gfx> cafuego: more software? mac or ubuntu?
[05:18] <raphink> cafuego: there are not so many differences anymore
[05:19] <raphink> gfx: ubuntu
[05:19] <raphink> you don't get the same packages exactly on i386 and powerpc
[05:19] <raphink> but most packages available on i386 also work on powerpc
[05:19] <gfx> raphink: why arent u on an OS X?
[05:19] <gfx> raphink: thats a cool OS
[05:19] <cafuego> raphink: Except java/flash/video
[05:19] <zach> i got the dvd decoders from wiki but i still cant play dvds any ideas why?
[05:20] <raphink> gfx: it's not open-source :p
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Well 'cool' is debateable.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Lol
[05:20] <raphink> gfx: I have OS X installed but I don't use it
[05:20] <Elhaz> for install something with aptitude, do you need save the files in expecific directory??
[05:20] <raphink> I might remove it  actually
[05:20] <raphink> just as I never had windows on my i386 machines
[05:20] <raphink> Elhaz: no
[05:20] <Elhaz> Thank you ;)
[05:20] <raphink> Elhaz: it downloads from the internet then installs
[05:21] <Elhaz> but.. if you download the file??
[05:21] <raphink> zach: did you install libdvdcss2 ?
[05:21] <zach> yes
[05:21] <Elhaz> not with aptitude, or apt...
[05:21] <raphink> Elhaz: then you have to install with dpkg -i
[05:21] <Elhaz> ajh.. now i`m understanding ;)
[05:21] <zach> it comes up with an error when i try to play the dvd though
[05:22] <gfx> raphink: macs are to expensive here, im going for UBUNTU linux
[05:22] <raphink> zach:
[05:22] <raphink> ok
[05:22] <gfx> raphink: but macs are cool,,
[05:22] <cafuego> gfx: Um.
[05:22] <gfx> raphink: and sexy
[05:22] <raphink> gfx: ubuntu is an OS, mac is a computer
[05:22] <raphink> don't compare things that cna't be compared
[05:22] <raphink> I'm running ubuntu on a mac
[05:22] <cafuego> gfx: Both macs and PCs run Ubuntu.
[05:22] <gfx> raphink: mac = OS X
[05:22] <zach> the error is "Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab'
[05:22] <raphink> no gfx
[05:22] <raphink> mac = machine
[05:22] <raphink> mac os = os
[05:22] <cafuego> gfx: It's just that at the moment, Ubuntu on PC works better than Ubuntu on Mac.
[05:23] <raphink> mac os even works on pcs now
[05:23] <Discipulus> correction, macintosh = computer
[05:23] <raphink> cafuego: I wouldn't be so sure ;)
[05:23] <Discipulus> :-P
[05:23] <nootrope> i'm getting some dependencies issues... the package depends on newer versions of existing packges. i guess i have to wait until the ubuntu repository has that version? Or can i look for and try to install the needed version from the debian repository?
[05:23] <gfx> raphink: OS X on a PC? its a headache to install
[05:23] <cafuego> raphink: I _am_ sure.
[05:23] <cafuego> raphink: On account of using Ubuntu on iBook, mac mini, amd64 and i386 machines.
[05:23] <raphink> cafuego: I am running kubuntu dapper on a powerpc
[05:23] <raphink> without the slightest problem
[05:24] <cafuego> raphink: ... and the i386 versions have _by_ _far_ less issues than PPC.
[05:24] <raphink> about 1/4 of the debian devs I know develop on ibooks
[05:24] <cafuego> See, most standard apps run okay, but the second you need say a browser plugin, you're stuck.
[05:24] <Inc0gnito> any1 know how to use qtparted to create a new partition off of my home so I can make home seperate ?
[05:24] <gfx> raphink: why is an I book there choice?
[05:25] <gfx> raphink: how about alieanware?
[05:25] <cafuego> gfx: Small, light, cheap.
[05:25] <raphink> gfx: because mac hardware rock  :)
[05:25] <gfx> raphink: ibook arent that cheap
[05:25] <Inc0gnito> I found an awesome tutorial for moving my home, but confused on how to go abot making the partition for it.
[05:25] <raphink> gfx: they are, for the quality
[05:25] <cafuego> gfx: iBooks are cheaper compares to PC laptops for what you get for your money.
[05:25] <raphink> gfx: I've had mac II that still worked great after 15 years
[05:25] <Inc0gnito> alienware....dont you mean delianware ?
[05:26] <NickGarvey> Inc0gnito: you mean making a separate partition for /home?
[05:26] <gfx> raphink: they are for the curves and colors of an ibook
[05:26] <corvax> now that macs ARE pc's does the hardware rock?
[05:26] <corvax> lol
[05:26] <raphink> gfx: apple comps are great hardware. beautiful, powerful, solid
[05:26] <arrick> raphink: I had to open oit on the otehr pc, this ones too slow for pics
[05:26] <raphink> corvax: i'm taling of powerpcs ;)
[05:26] <cafuego> corvax: Apparently the Macbook pro is the fastest WinXP laptop money can buy ;-)
[05:26] <raphink> arrick: pics ?
[05:26] <gfx> raphink: PC laptop clone on a transmeta is alsa good
[05:26] <rishi> hey all...can anyone tell me what the difference is between ubuntu and edubuntu
[05:26] <gfx> raphink: no problems lately
[05:26] <cafuego> rishi: Edubuntu is set up to run as ltsp server.
[05:27] <corvax> i dont think so
[05:27] <NickGarvey> cafuego: not out of the box though
[05:27] <rishi> cafuego: what does that mean
[05:27] <joseph_>  My ubuntu dapper locks up when I use the nvidia binary driver, but it never locks up with the nv driver.  Is there anything I can do to make the nvidia binary driver work without locking up?  Thanks.
[05:27] <NickGarvey> rishi: other computers can boot from that one
[05:27] <cafuego> NickGarvey: Depends on the benchmarks.
[05:27] <corvax> ah laptop
[05:27] <corvax> i see the qalifier now
[05:27] <raphink> rishi: edubuntu is aimed to schools organizations. It features a lstp server and other programs aimed to schools and other administrations
[05:27] <NickGarvey> rishi: you can set up a computer to do it with knoppix if you want to play around
[05:28] <NickGarvey> beds? heh
[05:28] <rishi> NickGarvey: no it wasn't that, i was just curious
[05:28] <raphink> letting the comp build for the night
[05:28] <raphink> yeah NickGarvey it's 5:30AM here
[05:28] <NickGarvey> :-D
[05:28] <rishi> but edubuntu and ubuntu are identical except the itsp server thing
[05:28] <arrick> raphink: I made sure it said that, and it still wont let me login from the web?
[05:29] <raphink|sleep> arrick: did you restart cupsys ?
[05:29] <raphink|sleep> arrick: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[05:29] <corvax> rishi edubuntu comes with more educational apps preinstalled
[05:29] <raphink|sleep> then try again
[05:29] <corvax> i guess
[05:29] <arrick> ok
[05:29] <NickGarvey> !edubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> methinks edubuntu is an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu
[05:29] <matthew> is anyone else using ubuntu on an Alienware laptop? i need some help getting S-video out to TV to work
[05:30] <bimberi> rishi: http://www.edubuntu.org/tour.html
[05:30] <rishi> corvax: hmm...okay.  i'm thinking of giving it to my lil nephew, cuz he's got an aptitude for computers
[05:30] <corvax> yeah you can choose server install
[05:30] <corvax> or
[05:30] <corvax> workstation
[05:30] <neo911> how does one join in the development of ubuntu? thx
[05:30] <corvax> choose workstation
[05:30] <Inc0gnito> it saddens me that I used to really admire alienware and now they are owned by dell, how sad.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> matthew,  the fact that its alienware dont matter. :P the chipset of the laptop matters.
[05:31] <matthew> very sad indeed
[05:31] <rishi> agreed
[05:31] <matthew> it's intel 855
[05:31] <matthew> and i downloaded a drive from Intel support
[05:31] <Inc0gnito> matthew, lucky you got a good onboard video chippy
[05:31] <Inc0gnito> I got screwed by acer with a SIS
[05:31] <matthew> but im new to linux so i have no idea what i'm looking at when i extract the driver
[05:31] <arrick> raphink: its saying 401 unauthorized
[05:31] <rishi> matthew: you have the 855GM vid right?
[05:31] <Inc0gnito> no DRI
[05:32] <matthew> yes rishi
[05:32] <matthew> i want to continue to utilize S-video out to my TV especially with Totem
[05:32] <corvax> does ubuntu play nice with macbook pro?
[05:32] <rishi> matthew, you running dapper or breezy?
[05:32] <matthew> breezy
[05:32] <arrick> guess I'll add gnome again, everything points back to >system>admin>printers
[05:32] <arrick> man its slow
[05:33] <rishi> hmm
[05:33] <corvax> i know knoppix and gentoo work
[05:33] <rishi> btw...fedora's aiglx...stinks.
[05:33] <rishi> haha
[05:34] <rishi> matthew: i feel like i'm going to have that problem as well when i move my dell 700m to linux...but i don't know the solution yet...are your drivers for linux?
[05:35] <TheFaction20> whats up guys
[05:35] <arrick> like the terminator 'I'll be Back'
[05:35] <slide> Does anyone know of an easy to setup ftp server with mysql backend?
[05:35] <corvax> the ole hp i have woprks great
[05:35] <TheFaction20> is there anyway to save my settings that i have if im using the live cd?
[05:35] <rishi> no, but i can tell you that would be pretty badass.
[05:36] <fiendskull9> yo
[05:36] <corvax> all the  special buttons work
[05:36] <TheFaction20> yo
[05:36] <corvax> with ubuntu
[05:36] <Elhaz> how can i install a file that is .RAR file??
[05:36] <Elhaz> i need unzip??
[05:36] <fiendskull9> Elhaz, a RAR is an archive
[05:36] <corvax> i was suprized
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> unrar
[05:36] <matthew> the display on the laptop monitor is great, and I've found to the config files for resolution and brightness and such, but I can't find a way to flip on the TV-out, i went to intel's website and they had a driver for my chipset that was for linux, but when i downloaded and extracted it, it wasn't a .deb package or anything just a folder full of stuff
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:36] <fiendskull9> Elhaz, sudo apt-get install rar
[05:36] <Elhaz> oh.. thanks ;)
[05:36] <fiendskull9> Elhaz, then you should be able to right click the rar file and extract
[05:36] <rishi> matthew:
[05:37] <h0nus> regeya_: can you help me sir?
[05:37] <rishi> you need to install it
[05:37] <corvax> matt ya gotta compile
[05:37] <corvax> prolly
[05:37] <fiendskull9> brb
[05:37] <corvax> is therea .sh file in there
[05:37] <matthew> is there a wiki on compiling?
[05:37] <rishi> matthew: i'm a total noob, but i seem to remember something like try using apt-get or something...it might work? haha.
[05:37] <bimberi> !compiling
[05:37] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[05:37] <fiendskull9> !compiling
[05:38] <fiendskull9> !compile
[05:38] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[05:38] <corvax> matt whats in the folder
[05:38] <xerophyte> Is the iptables stuff change on the 2.6.16 kernel ? because my old configuration didnt work with iptables modules
[05:38] <corvax> exactly
[05:38] <fiendskull9> agh
[05:38] <fiendskull9> i got steam working in wine
[05:38] <fiendskull9> and it takes 100 cpu whilst updating CS1.6
[05:38] <fiendskull9> lol
[05:38] <Pump> hi
[05:38] <Pump> hi everyone
[05:38] <fiendskull9> Pump, hey
[05:38] <TheFaction20> is it possible to save my settings although im using the live cd?
[05:38] <rishi> friendskull9: what is steam?
[05:39] <Pump> I want to ask somebody some questions
[05:39] <[TechGuy] > hot water vapor?
[05:39] <Pump> Who can I ask?
[05:39] <fiendskull9> fiendskull9, its fiend, lol. Its what you use to play counterstrike, and there is no native linux client.
[05:39] <DBO> hi, my mouse occasionally stops responding, restarting X seems to fix the issue, is there anything I can do?
[05:39] <TheFaction20> pump:just ask
[05:39] <rishi> The Faction20...i doubt it...all that stuff is stored on your ram,
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Pump thats 1. :P
[05:39] <NickGarvey> Pump: about what
[05:39] <fiendskull9> Pump, just ask a question
[05:39] <NickGarvey> !helpe
[05:39] <ubotu> NickGarvey: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:39] <NickGarvey> !helpme
[05:39] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:39] <Pump> I want to update my breezy to flight 5
[05:39] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[05:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:39] <Pump> I want to know if adding this repo:
[05:39] <corvax> the livecd isnt multisession
[05:40] <Pump> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/backports/update-manager /
[05:40] <corvax> but it should be
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Pump,  id advise not upgrading to it yet - untill its officially released
[05:40] <Pump> I could do it
[05:40] <fiendskull9> Pump, sudo apt-get distro-upgrade
[05:40] <fiendskull9> Pump, ^ should work
[05:40] <NickGarvey> distro?
[05:40] <desrt> dist-upgrade
[05:40] <TheFaction20> something ive noticed in my close to 10 hours straight of running this off the live cd is how smooth it runs compared to my installed xp
[05:40] <fiendskull9> !upgrade
[05:40] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[05:40] <rishi> friendskull9: there's no native linux cs? that's pretty gay
[05:40] <h0nus> regeya_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10887
[05:40] <fiendskull9> rishi, exactly, theres was a petition last yuear, 4000 people signed it, they still ignored it
[05:40] <Pump> and what about updating only Gnome?
[05:41] <rishi> i remember those cs days at school...what a great effing game
[05:41] <fiendskull9> rishi, the client is written in c++, they would just have to build it.
[05:41] <Pump> I play cs but on Win
[05:41] <corvax> usually they run slow on the install cd
[05:41] <rishi> ditto pump
[05:41] <corvax> slow from livecd
[05:41] <corvax> sorry
[05:41] <corvax> heh
[05:41] <fiendskull9> Pump, you can get it workin on wine ya know, but it takes alot to update cs
[05:41] <corvax> much faster once installed
[05:41] <Pump> yes
[05:41] <TheFaction20> corvax:idk maybe my windows is just retarted
[05:41] <rishi> friendskull9: how difficult is it to build?
[05:41] <Pump> the thing is that I could never have 3d acceleration
[05:42] <matthew> rishi: contents of folder /xc:  6 folders - /config /extras/  /lib /include /programs /util  2 readme files  some config files and xf86Date.h
[05:42] <Pump> I have a Radeon 9200
[05:42] <corvax> maybe its defragmented full or trojans  spyware etc?
[05:42] <fiendskull9> rishi, its FIEND, lol. they seem to release a new build every month, they dont even have to support the damn thing, just throw it out.
[05:42] <paladinew> hey guys, quick question here.  I just installed FLight 5, on my desktop it shows my hard drive (65GB Volume)  but when I try to open it it says I dont have the permission necesary to open it... how do I change that ?
[05:42] <Pump> and I could never make the ati drivers work
[05:42] <matthew> corvaxi: contents of folder /xc:  6 folders - /config /extras/  /lib /include /programs /util  2 readme files  some config files and xf86Date.h
[05:42] <corvax> ms actually recommends you REINSTALL once a year!
[05:42] <corvax> lol
[05:42] <fiendskull9> corvax, lmao
[05:42] <Pump> lol
[05:42] <TheFaction20> haha
[05:42] <rishi> friendskull9:  oh, my bad...i didn't know what FIEND WAS
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  i though thtey reccomended you buy a new cd every year. :P
[05:43] <arrick> how do I uninstall xubuntu?
[05:43] <fiendskull9> most people that use windows just want to know "honey, wheres aol and my email?"
[05:43] <fiendskull9> lmao
[05:43] <Pump> I have Win Xp and I don't reinstall for 2 years more or less
[05:43] <bimberi> !tell arrick about xubuntu
[05:43] <fiendskull9> arrick, sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <rishi> Pump: i reinstall maybe 2wice a year
[05:43] <corvax> ok
[05:43] <rishi> you gotta get rid of the shlup
[05:43] <rishi> that xp builds up
[05:44] <fiendskull9> rishi, Microslush hell-p
[05:44] <crimsun> arrick: remove libxfce\* and libexo\*
[05:44] <fiendskull9> lol
[05:44] <corvax> i just rm -rf xp
[05:44] <rishi> hahaha
[05:44] <crimsun> arrick: that will force uninstallation of all Xfce-related packages.
[05:44] <arrick> oh yeah, thaks
[05:44] <Pump> so, should i use sudo apt-get distro-upgrade
[05:44] <Pump>  or i add deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/backports/update-manager / and update thru the update manager?
[05:44] <arrick> will it leave the ubuntu server?
[05:44] <crimsun> arrick: yes
[05:44] <fiendskull9> Pump, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:45] <fiendskull9> Pump, i reccomend you leave it on all night
[05:45] <arrick> thanks
[05:45] <DBO> is there any way I can restart my mouse device from console?
[05:45] <fiendskull9> Pump, i think it takes awhile
[05:45] <DBO> or re-detect it or something...
[05:45] <Pump> yes, thats what i wanted to do
[05:45] <fiendskull9> DBO
[05:45] <fiendskull9> DBO, is it usb?
[05:45] <Pump> so instead of using the update manager I use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:45] <TheFaction20> fiendskull9:with the sudo apt-get are these things already on ubuntu? or are they things that they search for somewhere else?
[05:45] <fiendskull9> Pump, exactly
[05:45] <Pump> ok
[05:45] <motin>  i have no luck sending emails via sendmail and esmtp - please help! i tried define(`ESMTP_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 587') but it does not help!
[05:45] <DBO> fiendskull9, yes
[05:46] <corvax> matt read the README
[05:46] <Pump> Is there any posibility of the X to broke?
[05:46] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, yes, its the default package getter, lol.
[05:46] <DBO> but I dont want to restart all my USB devices
[05:46] <fiendskull9> DBO, umm
[05:46] <fiendskull9> DBO, is it logitech?
[05:46] <DBO> yes
[05:46] <fiendskull9> DBO, try - modprobe Logitech
[05:46] <DBO> the only way I found to get the mouse to respond again once it stops is to restart X
[05:46] <fiendskull9> DBO, you could unplug it, lol, and plug it baxck in
[05:46] <DBO> doesnt work
[05:47] <DBO> unplugging I mean
[05:47] <Pump> one more thing
[05:47] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, its actually on most debian systems i think.
[05:47] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, and slackware has optional - slapt-get
[05:47] <Pump> if i use dist-upgrade, do i have to change any repo?
[05:47] <DBO> only solution I can find is to restart X, which is annoying because that kills my session
[05:47] <fiendskull9> Pump, no
[05:47] <fiendskull9> Pump, its in the ubuntu repos
[05:47] <Pump> so I don't have to uncomment or nothing?
[05:47] <Blue-Steel> what is the cmd line to auto configure X ?
[05:47] <fiendskull9> !tell DBO about modprobe
[05:48] <TheFaction20> fiendskull9:is it kinda like using run in windows? sorry for the seemingly noobish questions im just learning as i go along basically
[05:48] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, no, it installs an application.
[05:48] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, say i want to install xmms, i just do sudo apt-get install xmms. then when its done, i type xmms to launch the program
[05:48] <Blue-Steel> !tell Blue-Steel about xorg
[05:48] <rishi> TheFaction20: i hear yah...i'm a noober
[05:48] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, it install the package from a repositorie
[05:49] <TheFaction20> fiendskull9:wheres this 'repository'?
[05:49] <fiendskull9> !tell TheFaction20 about apt-get
[05:49] <Plitskin[2] > exit
[05:49] <Pump> ok, i'm going to try to upgrade
[05:49] <rishi> hey pump
[05:49] <rishi> if you get it working
[05:49] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, there is many repositorys, its just a fancy name for a ftp server, lol.
[05:49] <Plitskin[2] > eeeek what the hell was I thinking typing that. I thought I was in console lolz
[05:49] <Pump> i just make apt-gt dist-upgrade and that's it?
[05:50] <rishi> go to #ubuntu +1 for the Dapper channel
[05:50] <Pump> ok
[05:50] <fiendskull9> Pump, remember, to sudo.
[05:50] <Pump> yes
[05:50] <fiendskull9> Pump, if u get t working, tell me how long it takes.
[05:50] <Pump> but i read somewhere that i have to change breezy for dapper
[05:50] <fiendskull9> Pump, nope, it should boot to dapper.
[05:50] <Pump> to make dist-upgrade
[05:50] <rishi> fiendskull9: can't you guys just upgrade from the disc?
[05:51] <fiendskull9> rishi, no. you can download a dapper iso tho, but its big.
[05:51] <rishi> fiendskull9: i now understood what you were trying to say to me...my bad for effin up your name
[05:51] <fiendskull9> rishi, lol.
[05:51] <Pump> ok guys, thank for your time
[05:51] <TheFaction20> have any of u used dsl?
[05:51] <fiendskull9> Pump, good luck!
[05:51] <pulgoki> anyone know much about psybnc?
[05:51] <rishi> lata pump
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> TheFaction20,  on and off. :P
[05:51] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, dsl is horse crap :)
[05:51] <corvax> in ubuntu you can use synaptic a gui front end for apt to  get apps of you can use the add remove programs package
[05:51] <rishi> TheFaction20: dsl sucks balls
[05:51] <corvax> or apt from the cli
[05:51] <TheFaction20> or any other thumb drive linux?
[05:51] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, i have t1 internet, and its delicious
[05:52] <Pump> if I get it to work I'll be back here to see if you can help me with the Ati drivers
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> TheFaction20,  never used it on a thumb drive.
[05:52] <rishi> i have Comcast...and its great, other than the occasional torrent shaping
[05:52] <fiendskull9> I download at about 3000 kbps on a good server
[05:52] <rishi> pump
[05:52] <Pump> yes?
[05:52] <rishi> find me here afterwards...you and i will do the ATI thing...cuz i did it once already and have to do it again
[05:53] <corvax> dsl is ok if your running a 166 mhz machine'
[05:53] <Pump> what card do you have?
[05:53] <xephoN-cne2> I need a cheap network card.. which is better SMC/Startech/D-Link/Belkin??
[05:53] <rishi> 9600 pro
[05:53] <pulgoki> whats the prefered web browser for linux??? opera??  firefox??
[05:53] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, dlink.
[05:53] <Pump> i have 9200 SE
[05:53] <rishi> nice
[05:53] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, dlink
[05:53] <corvax> firefox
[05:53] <Pump> I would like to plays some game here
[05:53] <Pump> all right
[05:53] <Pump> thank you all
[05:53] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, they really like ubuntu
[05:53] <corvax> because it can be pacakged with the distros'
[05:53] <xephoN-cne2> alright, thanks :D
[05:53] <fiendskull9> !play
[05:53] <ubotu> All work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg
[05:54] <Pump> sorry if there was some mistake in my english
[05:54] <Pump> i'm from Argentina
[05:54] <Pump> all right, i'm going to update
[05:54] <rishi> haha no worries pump
[05:54] <Pump> bye
[05:55] <rishi> whoever asked...i like firefox a lot
[05:55] <fiendskull9> anyone have luck installing Warcraft III with wine?
[05:55] <rishi> but i feel like it lags on the upload sometimes
[05:55] <corvax> nope not a gamer
[05:55] <fiendskull9> rishi, he keeps typing in irc instead of terminal i think, lol
[05:55] <pulgoki> rishi: im using firefox but the display seems slow on some sites
[05:55] <eckO> i need to reinstall windows on my dual boot system, how can i reinstall grub after this?
[05:55] <rishi> hahaha
[05:55] <pulgoki> ive never tried opera in linux but it didnt seem to work very well in freebsd
[05:56] <eckO> i need to reinstall windows on my dual boot system, how can i reinstall grub *to the mbr* after this?
[05:56] <TheFaction20> fiendskull9 what do "steam" and "wine" do? is wine a program to trick linux in to playing windows games?
[05:56] <rishi> pulgoki: did they release opera 9 yet?
[05:56] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, wine is a windows compalibilty overlay
[05:56] <xephoN-cne2> wine is a windows emulator..
[05:56] <fiendskull9> !tell TheFaction20 about wine
[05:56] <pulgoki> not sure
[05:56] <rishi> !tell rishi about wine
[05:56] <h0nus> cd ..
[05:56] <dejan_> hi
[05:56] <fiendskull9> I love opera
[05:57] <xephoN-cne2> fiendskull9; how does counter strike 1.6 work on wine?? flawless?
[05:57] <fiendskull9> it blazes down the street with t1
[05:57] <rishi> damn, ubotu yelled at me!
[05:57] <pulgoki> opera seemed allot faster
[05:57] <corvax> wine intercepts api calls
[05:57] <gfx> how can I transfer my ubuntu on another HDD?
[05:57] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, well, when updating cs, it takes 100% cpu.
[05:57] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, but i had to install mozilla active x control, and then it installed perfectly, and launches fine.
[05:57] <pulgoki> just not sure if everything works well.  :P  since it didnt work for crap in bsd
[05:57] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, cant wait to get in game :))
[05:57] <xephoN-cne2> :O
[05:58] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, but yeah, do you think they really work on the bsd version? :P
[05:58] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, the market is all in windows and linux
[05:58] <xephoN-cne2> i'll see around how linux works before doing any gaming on it :P
[05:58] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, one game that is native on linux, ut2004.
[05:58] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, i reccomend if u dont have it, buy it.
[05:58] <rishi> eck0: there is a wiki on it
[05:58] <pulgoki> fiendskull9: thats too bad too... i liked freebsd but lack of support drove me to debian
[05:59] <rishi> eck0: you have to rescue boot from the cd
[05:59] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, yeah, i love debian. i tried slack and gentoo, but i keep coming back to ubuntu and other debian based systems.
[05:59] <rishi> gentoo wouldn't install on my comp, that pos
[05:59] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, im curious about trying freebsd, will it auto add to my grub? or will i have to write my own entry stanza for it.
[05:59] <pulgoki> fiendskull9: i ran slack about 7 years ago.... i loved it but i like the package managment system of debian
[05:59] <Xenguy> that's cos debian frickin rocks :P
[06:00] <The_Answer> how do you find the exact names of files so you can download them in he using the terminal
[06:00] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, well, i beleive slack 10.0 introduced slapt-get. seriuously.
[06:00] <SEJeff> The_Answer: apt-cache search whatever
[06:00] <rishi> can you use yum in ubuntu?
[06:00] <pulgoki> fiendskull9: ive dont know much about grub
[06:00] <pulgoki> wow
[06:00] <The_Answer> ty
[06:00] <Blue-Steel> rishi no
[06:00] <SEJeff> rishi: apt-get is better than yum
[06:00] <fiendskull9> !yum
[06:00] <ubotu> fiendskull9: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:00] <pulgoki> slapt-get?
[06:00] <pulgoki> haha
[06:00] <pulgoki> cool
[06:00] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, yeah.
[06:00] <Xenguy> The_Answer: I don't understand; what do you want to do?
[06:01] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, i think there is some way to incorparate apt-get system into all distros. i need to look into it.
[06:01] <rishi> But you know how yum has yumex...so you can see everything available, is there something similar for apt-get?
[06:01] <pulgoki> i almost went back to it recently
[06:01] <pulgoki> slackware that is
[06:01] <pulgoki> but someone talked me into unbuntu instead
[06:01] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: sure, but why not just run Ubu :P
[06:01] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, or if you know c++, you could ask ubuntu for the apt-get source, and integrate it.
[06:01] <pulgoki> im not displeased that i did
[06:01] <Elhaz> what do you recomend.. apt-get or aptitude?
[06:01] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, have u ever exspierenced Gentoo?
[06:01] <Blue-Steel> apt-get
[06:01] <pulgoki> fiendskull9: im not a programmer at all
[06:02] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, i know some c++
[06:02] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: gawd no - if I want to compile I still have the option in Ubu
[06:02] <Blue-Steel> fiendskull9 he should ;)
[06:02] <Blue-Steel> Xenguy not the same .
[06:02] <Blue-Steel> not even close
[06:02] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, running gnome i use about 92 mb of ram in gentoo
[06:02] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, its so nice
[06:02] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, but i want it to have apt-get soo bad
[06:02] <Xenguy> Blue-Steel: I absolutely prefer binary vs compile
[06:03] <Blue-Steel> fiendskull9  u mean  binarys
[06:03] <rishi> fiendskull9: what does it have?
[06:03] <Blue-Steel> gentoo has some binaries too
[06:03] <fiendskull9> rishi, you choose what it has
[06:03] <pulgoki> the only thing im sad about unbuntu so far is the difficulty ive had getting samba to work.  I know it has to be the config somewhere but i had it running in freebsd in 15 minutes
[06:03] <Blue-Steel> much more to come  i would say
[06:03] <The_Answer> lol
[06:03] <fiendskull9> rishi, its certainly not a walk away install :P
[06:03] <The_Answer> I f'd it up I guess
[06:03] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: the point is you can do compile from source in Ubu/Debian if you want to
[06:03] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, i know.
[06:03] <Blue-Steel> not the same
[06:03] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, im not just talking packaging, im talking sherr performance
[06:03] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: but I've never really wanted to :-)
[06:04] <rishi> fiendskull9: yeah, i know firsthand, apparently i wasn't smart enough to install it, it effed up every time i tried, and i have no idea why
[06:04] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: it's just not worth the hassle IMHO\
[06:04] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: hmm samba worked very easily for me, not sure what isn't working for you, I used the howto on the samba site
[06:04] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, i can get around 4000 kbps from my t1 on a good server
[06:04] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: meh
[06:04] <Blue-Steel> check out in deep the use of flags when compiling
[06:04] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, yeah, it is everyones choice. but im just suggesting you try gentoo sometime
[06:05] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: no, not for me at all
[06:05] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, ok
[06:05] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, i wish slackware used grub tho
[06:06] <rishi> i kinda wish dapper had a sexier installer.
[06:06] <pulgoki> nickrud: did you just modify the config file that came with samba or create a new one?
[06:06] <ubuntu> Alguien me puede ayudar diciendome donde concigo un programa para television con Ubuntu=?
[06:06] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, it was a bitch tryin to get a slackware entry into grub.
[06:06] <pulgoki> er NickGarvey  i mean
[06:06] <useruser> !spanish
[06:06] <ubotu> useruser: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:06] <pulgoki> damn nick complete
[06:06] <pulgoki> :p
[06:06] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: modified one
[06:06] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, ohhh, steam is blazing now.
[06:07] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: I know very little samba
[06:07] <pulgoki> i dont really know it at all
[06:07] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: like almost none
[06:07] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, it was taking 100 cpu up until 17% complete
[06:07] <pulgoki> but in freebsd it was super easy
[06:07] <pulgoki> not sure why its not working in ubuntu
[06:07] <NickGarvey> I need to find a good free bsd live cd..
[06:07] <pulgoki> my laptop see's the server
[06:07] <pulgoki> and shows the share
[06:07] <NickGarvey> !bsd
[06:07] <ubotu> NickGarvey: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:07] <pulgoki> but it refuses to let me connect
[06:07] <Xenguy> oh fuck bsd
[06:07] <rishi> shitah...fiendskull9: you'll have to teach me how to do that shit...i have cs 1.1 cd
[06:07] <rishi> haha
[06:07] <NickGarvey> !language
[06:07] <ubuntu> Somebody know wich program i need to watch tv with Ubuntu?
[06:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[06:07] <Xenguy> this is ubuntu fer chrisakes
[06:08] <NickGarvey> !tv
[06:08] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[06:08] <fiendskull9> rishi, i dunno about pre 1.6 cs installation
[06:08] <useruser> !spanish
[06:08] <ubotu> spanish is, like, Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:08] <NickGarvey> !tvcard
[06:08] <ubotu> NickGarvey: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:08] <fiendskull9> rishi, does it have the cd key on it?
[06:08] <rishi> yeah
[06:08] <fiendskull9> rishi, ok
[06:08] <fiendskull9> rishi, do you have aim or something of the sort?
[06:08] <rishi> i do as a matter of factly
[06:08] <rishi> trillian
[06:09] <fiendskull9> rishi, trillian on linux?
[06:09] <NickGarvey> does it work rishi?
[06:09] <rishi> nope...trill on winxp...on my laptop
[06:09] <fiendskull9> rishi, then you have aim
[06:09] <pulgoki> NickGarvey: http://www.freesbie.org/screenshots.html <==--  thats what i used to see if i would like freebsd
[06:09] <rishi> right
[06:09] <fiendskull9> rishi, lol, just sign in on gaim
[06:09] <pulgoki> i liked it untill i started trying to upgrade packages
[06:09] <Pump> hi, it's me again
[06:09] <pulgoki> and everything started crashing
[06:09] <fiendskull9> rishi, i can walk you through installing cs tommorow
[06:09] <NickGarvey> I have that cd but it doesn't work..
[06:10] <pulgoki> hmm
[06:10] <pulgoki> it worked great for me
[06:10] <pulgoki> on my laptop
[06:10] <pulgoki> and my pc
[06:10] <ubuntu> my tv card is a Leadtek
[06:10] <rishi> sweet
[06:10] <rishi> that would be great fiendskull9
[06:10] <fiendskull9> rishi, whats your aim sn?
[06:10] <Pump> friendskull9, i did dist-upgrade
[06:11] <Pump> but it just upgrade a few packages
[06:11] <NickGarvey> http://www.tv-cards.com/linux.php
[06:11] <fiendskull9> Pump, did u restart?
[06:11] <Pump> nope
[06:11] <h0nus> i'm having problems trying to install some packages after upgrade to breezy
[06:11] <fiendskull9> Pump, try restarting
[06:11] <Pump> and then upgrading?
[06:11] <NickGarvey> the old windows fall back, when in doubt, reboot!
[06:11] <fiendskull9> Pump, no, if u reboot, it should be dapper.
[06:11] <pulgoki> NickGarvey: when you setup your shares in samba, did you create a new user or just use your regular login account? and did you setup a  "guest" shared or ..?
[06:12] <Pump> but it upgrade a few packages
[06:12] <Pump> look
[06:12] <pulgoki> im thinking about trying a not secured guest share and see if it lets me connect to that
[06:12] <Pump> i have copied the list
[06:12] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: do you mean how did I access my linux computer from the windows?
[06:12] <pulgoki> yes
[06:12] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: I used the user names that were already made
[06:12] <Pump> base-config dhcp3-client dhcp3-common evince gnupg kdelibs-data libartsc0
[06:12] <Pump>   libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 libcairo2 libgksu1.2-0 libgnome2-canvas-perl
[06:12] <Pump>   libnautilus-extension1 libwine linux-headers-2.6.12-10
[06:12] <Pump>   linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[06:12] <Pump>   linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 locales login nautilus nautilus-data passwd
[06:12] <Pump>   python-gnome2-extras python2.4-gnome2-extras wine
[06:12] <NickGarvey> !paste
[06:12] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:12] <Pump> that's what it upgrade
[06:12] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, the old windows fall back, when in doubt, error report! then get a virus, try to remove virus, and get another. email microsoft, they tell you to reboot, you reboot, and you get blue screen!
[06:12] <NickGarvey> :-D
[06:12] <arrick> ok, I have loaded gnome, how do I install printers here?
[06:12] <NickGarvey> !cups
[06:12] <ubotu> well, cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[06:13] <NickGarvey> and thats where my knowledge of printers stop
[06:13] <Pump> i think that what i pasted didn't appeared, had it?
[06:13] <Pump> base-config dhcp3-client dhcp3-common evince gnupg kdelibs-data libartsc0
[06:13] <Pump>   libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 libcairo2 libgksu1.2-0 libgnome2-canvas-perl
[06:13] <Pump>   libnautilus-extension1 libwine linux-headers-2.6.12-10
[06:13] <Pump>   linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[06:13] <Pump>   linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 locales login nautilus nautilus-data passwd
[06:13] <Pump>   python-gnome2-extras python2.4-gnome2-extras wine
[06:13] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, they say if you play a windows cd backwards, it has the voice of satan telling you to kill the pope, but thats not near as bad when you play it forward!
[06:13] <NickGarvey> PUMP STOP
[06:13] <NickGarvey> !tell pump about paste
[06:13] <Pump> sorry
[06:13] <arrick> NickGarvey, thats why I am here, to find the right info
[06:13] <NickGarvey> haha nice fiendskull9
[06:13] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, CUP is the common unix printing system
[06:13] <NickGarvey> arrick: try the linux?
[06:13] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, if he has usb, then it wont work
[06:14] <NickGarvey> link*
[06:14] <NickGarvey> oh, is it usb?
[06:14] <NickGarvey> didn't see
[06:14] <arrick> yeah
[06:14] <NickGarvey> I give up then
[06:14] <arrick> hahah
[06:14] <Pump> fiendskull9, can i paste the list of the packages which it upgrade by private message?
[06:14] <NickGarvey> PuMp: did you read what it said? use pastebin
[06:14] <NickGarvey> PuMp: good resource
[06:14] <arrick> I loaded gnome cause all the tutorial say .
[06:14] <fiendskull9> !tell Pump about paste
[06:15] <NickGarvey> !printers
[06:15] <ubotu> it has been said that printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:15] <NickGarvey> hurray
[06:15] <arrick> >system>admin>printers, and all say in gnome, so I load and no such animal
[06:15] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, lol
[06:15] <h0nus> can anyone help me with postfix?
[06:15] <Caike> Can anyone help me with some LDAP + PhpLdapAdmin issues ?
[06:15] <Pump> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10890
[06:15] <NickGarvey> h0nus: I can try, what do you need?
[06:15] <wyrless2002> can you explain the usb/printer thing? why doesn't it work, short version?
[06:15] <fiendskull9> Pump, lemme take a lookey
[06:15] <NickGarvey> h0nus: I have a mail server but its garbage heh
[06:15] <Pump> sorry about the flood
[06:15] <Pump> i won't do it again
[06:15] <NickGarvey> its ok, you know better now
[06:16] <twirpie> im having problems installing clamav the antivirus package.... anyone help? do i really need it?
[06:16] <NickGarvey> I did the same thing when I first got in here
[06:16] <arrick> wyrless2002: what version do you have?
[06:16] <arrick> printer
[06:16] <wyrless2002> breezy
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> twirpie,  you scanning for windows viruses?
[06:16] <h0nus> NickGarvey: i upgraded from hoary to breezy recently, and i am having trouble with the installation of other packages now
[06:16] <fiendskull9> !tell Pump about dist-upgrade
[06:16] <arrick> the printer
[06:16] <twirpie> no why?
[06:16] <fiendskull9> !upgrade
[06:16] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[06:16] <wyrless2002> sorry, it's Lexmark P3150.
[06:16] <root> hey all
[06:16] <root> im having some troubles
[06:17] <arrick> hang on a minute
[06:17] <wyrless2002> TY
[06:17] <root> i got a new monitor for my comp, and when it goes to the login screen I cant see anything
[06:17] <NickGarvey> root: don't log onto irc in root, bad idea
[06:17] <root> so now im in recovery mode
[06:17] <NickGarvey> security issue, log in as a user
[06:17] <root> how do I do that from console?
[06:17] <fiendskull9> !screen-resolution
[06:17] <ubotu> fiendskull9: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:17] <wyrless2002> everything I've read alludes to the fact that Lexmark + Linux = bad.
[06:17] <rishi> hey what is LVM
[06:17] <NickGarvey> su <user>
[06:17] <h0nus> NickGarvey: i am running into issues with all of the following--
[06:17] <NickGarvey> low value manager
[06:17] <h0nus>  postfix
[06:17] <h0nus>  mailx
[06:17] <h0nus>  mutt
[06:17] <h0nus>  lsb-core
[06:17] <h0nus>  lsb-graphics
[06:17] <root> quit
[06:17] <h0nus>  lsb-cxx
[06:18] <h0nus>  lsb
[06:18] <rishi> and should i use LVM, or should i just erase
[06:18] <NickGarvey> !lvm
[06:18] <ubotu> I heard lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[06:18] <NickGarvey> !paste
[06:18] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:18] <fiendskull9> h0nus, stop it
[06:18] <dejan_> my wlan wound work
[06:18] <h0nus> sorry, was supposed to be 1 line lol
[06:18] <twirpie> im having problems installing clamav the antivirus package.... anyone help? do i really need it?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> h0nus: whats wrong with those?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> twirpie: what do you need antivirus for?
[06:18] <Madpilot> twirpie, you don't really need it...
[06:18] <NickGarvey> I mean I guess better safe than sorry...
[06:18] <dejan_> i can not connect
[06:18] <h0nus> NickGarvey: shall i pastebin the whole thing?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> but its like putting a chain on a thousand pound safebox
[06:19] <dejan_> dmesg tould me
[06:19] <NickGarvey> h0nus: yeah
[06:19] <twirpie> k thanks ill skip it then
[06:19] <fiendskull9> twirpie, try sudo apt-get install fprot
[06:19] <fiendskull9> twirpie, much better a-virus
[06:19] <rishi> i'm not going to use it
[06:19] <rishi> stupid LVM
[06:19] <jbritz22> ok im back
[06:19] <fiendskull9> !tell twirpie about f-prot
[06:19] <dejan_> ipw2200: failed to send WEP_KEY command
[06:19] <arrick> large volume manager
[06:19] <Blue-Steel> !tell Blue-Steel about f-prot
[06:19] <NickGarvey> !f-prot
[06:19] <ubotu> NickGarvey: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:19] <fiendskull9> !f-prot
[06:19] <NickGarvey> I beat you
[06:19] <jbritz22> now, for my troubles, as I said earlier, i got a new monitor, but it doesnt work, the login screen is just black, if I press space I can still here sounds...anyone tell me what to do?
[06:19] <fiendskull9> !f-prot
[06:20] <ubuntu> eh hi
[06:20] <ubuntu> how did i get here
[06:20] <NickGarvey> jbritz22: did you go to the link?
[06:20] <fiendskull9> ubuntu, you launched xirc
[06:20] <jbritz22> im in recovery mode
[06:20] <ubuntu> i was just trying to figure out how to install limewire
[06:20] <arrick> wyrless2002: do a google on that printer, you might get lucky, and find a driver that is compatible.
[06:20] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, try typing - startx
[06:20] <ubuntu> then it went here
[06:20] <NickGarvey> !limewire
[06:20] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[06:21] <chance2105> I have a friend who's writing a paper in Openoffice on his Ubuntu box.  It's in Spanish.  Is there anything special that needs to be installed (everything being in English)?
[06:21] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, ill help him, im exspierenced in the limewire linux field :P
[06:21] <ubuntu> java?
[06:21] <twirpie> fiendskull it says can find the package
[06:21] <wyrless2002> TY arrick.
[06:21] <ubuntu> im new to this
[06:21] <arrick> wyrless2002: mine is a lexmark x6170 and I had given up hope, but the driver is the same as the z600, so I got it working
[06:21] <fiendskull9> ubuntu, look at the bottom of xirc, click the red button
[06:21] <Madpilot> !tell ubuntu about java
[06:21] <arrick> you also need to install and mount the USB file system
[06:21] <fiendskull9> arrick, he can also modprobe <device name>
[06:21] <arrick> wyrless2002: yeah
[06:21] <ian_> Anyone know how I can use .rpm files with ubuntu?  I just installed it yesterday and thus far love it.  Unfortunately I need some things that come as .rpm packages.
[06:22] <fiendskull9> arrick, nvm, modprobe is drivers
[06:22] <NickGarvey> !alien
[06:22] <Pump> fiendskull9, now on the update-manager i have the option of upgrading to dapper :D
[06:22] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:22] <fiendskull9> ian_, does the page also have .deb files?
[06:22] <arrick> wish I had known that 2 days ago, so I could have done it
[06:22] <wyrless2002> it connects, kicks the paper feed, and comes up on the print mon. on XP but then del.
[06:22] <h0nus> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10891
[06:23] <NickGarvey> ian_: they might just have the tar file which you could compile
[06:23] <h0nus> NickGarvey: ran into this problem trying to install amsn
[06:23] <Tranthom> hi there... i'm a new linux user (2 days) and i know that latest version of ubuntu have a VNC server running but I can't find a way to change port. can someone help me please?
[06:23] <ian_> Fiend, they're games that I've DL'd (like when I was using <chocke> XP, they'd have been zip files)...
[06:23] <fiendskull9> h0nus, sudo apt-get install amsn, lol.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  i dont think the vnc server is running by default
[06:23] <fiendskull9> ian_, are they legal games? :P
[06:23] <h0nus> fiendskull9: did that?
[06:23] <NickGarvey> h0nus: woo you did something fun there
[06:24] <fiendskull9> h0nus, damn you, lol.
[06:24] <dejan_> has somebody a idea for my wlan?
[06:24] <NickGarvey> h0nus: try debfoster or something to clean up
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> transgress,  you can use the 'vncserver' command and  its options  to set all kinds of things
[06:24] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: it is because i'm connecting to it right now but I dont like it to be by default :P
[06:24] <ian_> Fiend: Yep.  They're ones covered under the GNU(?)....Like BzTank (I think that's the name).
[06:24] <h0nus> NickGarvey: what is debfoster?
[06:24] <xerophyte> does anybody know why am i getting error message
[06:24] <xerophyte> sda: Write Protect is off ??
[06:24] <NickGarvey> !debfoster
[06:24] <ubotu> [debfoster]  A command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2440
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  vnc is a very piowerfull program. and has ooodles of things ya can twiddle. depending  on how you are using it.
[06:24] <fiendskull9> ian_, well, take for instance, the game uis called cube. do sudo apt-get install cube
[06:24] <ian_> Fiend: Like I said, I'm new and compiling is the #1 thing I want to learn.  Kinda necessary. ;)
[06:25] <rishi> haha twiddle
[06:25] <fiendskull9> ian_, please use all my sn
[06:25] <NickGarvey> that forum link is very wrong it seems
[06:25] <fiendskull9> !tell ian_ about compiling
[06:25] <ian_> Fiendskull9: Like this?
[06:25] <NickGarvey> ian_: ha I have not compiled anything at all during ubuntu
[06:25] <NickGarvey> ian_: because it terrifies me ;)
[06:25] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: i know how to use it. i did use it for years on windows. Y just want to be able to change port for managing few computers on a router default port is already in use by another computer
[06:25] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, ah, pussy :P
[06:25] <jbritz22> ok so startx doesnt work
[06:25] <ian_> NickGarvey: Me too.  I need to find a N00b readme on compiling.
[06:25] <h0nus> NickGarvey: what is debfoster?
[06:26] <jbritz22> so what should I do with this non-monritor working issue
[06:26] <fiendskull9> ian_, did you get mah damn dialog message?
[06:26] <rishi> ian_: i need to find a N00b readme on ubuntu...so i know how you feel.
[06:26] <NickGarvey> !tell h0nus about debfoster
[06:26] <NickGarvey> !noob
[06:26] <ubotu> from memory, noob is a four letter word, just like rtfm or jfgi. Don't use it
[06:26] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, gimme a sec.
[06:26] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: can you tell me where I can change this setting please?
[06:26] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: sweet
[06:26] <fiendskull9> damnit
[06:26] <NickGarvey> heh, anyway, the ubuntu site is good
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  i would look in the vncsever script for a start.
[06:27] <ian_> fiendskull9: I'm uncertain what you mean?  And is there a bot on here that runs info?  I'm also new to IRC.
[06:27] <NickGarvey> !bot
[06:27] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:27] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: since i'm a noob at linux I don't even know where is that. can you guide me please?
[06:27] <ubuntu> im back
[06:27] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, will you google somethin for me real quick, im updating steam in wine, and its taking alot of system load.
[06:27] <arrick> Dr_Willis: I have folloed all of your advice in the past, I know you can help me, please????
[06:27] <ubuntu> im trying to install ubuntu on my system but i keep getting some bootstrap error
[06:28] <rishi> bootstrap?
[06:28] <arrick> Dr_Willis: I loaded the gnome, and need to know how to add printers in the gui
[06:28] <NickGarvey> fiendskull9: okie, so.. "steam wine system load"
[06:28] <NickGarvey> ?
[06:28] <twirpie> does ubuntu clear cookies and tmp files automaticly or do i have to do it? if so how?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  its the 'vncserver' command  - its a script. read it - it has oodles of default settings you can change from config files or command line.
[06:28] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, google "how to change screen resolution for ubuntu in terminal"
[06:28] <ubuntu> i dont know how to do it
[06:28] <Tranthom> change the strap then... it must been loose over the years :) lol
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  theres a menu item for printer configuration
[06:28] <ubuntu> lol
[06:28] <rishi> wtf is a bootstrap error?
[06:28] <ubuntu> i have tried two different hd
[06:28] <NickGarvey> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[06:28] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: i will
[06:28] <fiendskull9> twirpie, step 1, stop looking a porn :P
[06:28] <ubuntu> and still wont install
[06:28] <fiendskull9> !bootstrap
[06:28] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[06:28] <arrick> I tried by going to http://localhost:631, and it didnt let me in, admin was denied
[06:28] <twirpie> lol
[06:28] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: thanks
[06:29] <rishi> fiendskull9:  hahaha. ZING!
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  just 'using' vnc under windows - means yuve scratched the surface of it. Lol.
[06:29] <ian_> What is Ubotu?
[06:29] <pulgoki> is there a real good usenet reader for linux or do people just use thunderbird or the likes?
[06:29] <NickGarvey> !bot
[06:29] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:29] <arrick> Dr_willis: should be 'system>admin>printers, but its not there
[06:29] <Goldfisch> Ubotu is everything I ever wanted!
[06:29] <ubotu> Goldfisch: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:30] <ubuntu> so no one knows what a bootstrap error is?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  i would guess you dont have some packages installed that you need.
[06:30] <Goldfisch> !botsnack
[06:30] <ubotu> thanks goldfisch :)
[06:30] <twirpie> mkay seriously lol does ubuntu clear cookies and tmp files automaticly or do i have to do it? if so how?
[06:30] <arrick> happen to know which ones?
[06:30] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: any luck?
[06:30] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, im lookin
[06:30] <arrick> !packages
[06:30] <ubotu> I heard packages is You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com .  It also has a nifty file search feature.
[06:30] <JAyRULE> how do you get ubuntu to recognize my pc's floppy drive?
[06:30] <ian_> .rpm
[06:30] <rishi> booyah!
[06:31] <ubuntu> humm
[06:31] <rishi> kakashi sensei!
[06:31] <ian_> !.rpm
[06:31] <ubotu> ian_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:31] <NickGarvey> !rpm
[06:31] <ubotu> rpm is, like, totally, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[06:32] <jbritz22> ok, while fiendskulls looking, anyone else know how to fix my monitor, I just got a new one today , hooked it up, and it doesnt work in normal mode
[06:32] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, yay! command - xrandr -s 1024x768
[06:32] <ian_> !alien
[06:32] <ubotu> alien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> twirpie,  that 'feature' has nothing to do with 'ubuntu' but the browser. :P and yes firefox can do it - i belive
[06:32] <ubuntu> ?
[06:32] <jbritz22> fiendskull19: what do I do after I type that
[06:32] <rishi> ubuntu
[06:32] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, thatll bring you res down low, so when u boot, change it to desired in the gui
[06:32] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, just reboot
[06:32] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, see if u can get login
[06:32] <rishi> ubuntu: go into the options and just delete the cookies man
[06:32] <ian_> I -love- ubotu!
[06:32] <ubuntu> i think that i will just go back to xp
[06:32] <sethrd> So, I got the artwiz fonts from Synaptic, but the fonts don't show up in my fonts list. I've rebooted, I've logged out, I've killed X, but they don't show up. How do I get them useable?
[06:32] <ubuntu> this is too much
[06:33] <FlannelKing> ian_: usually you can find what you want in the repositories though
[06:33] <twirpie> how do i get ubuntu to reconize things like cd roms hard drives and such?
[06:33] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: ok ill try that and get back to ya
[06:33] <fiendskull9> ubuntu, never ever ever ever ever ever say that!
[06:33] <NickGarvey> ubuntu: friends don't let friends do windows
[06:33] <ian_> ubuntu: Don't go back to XP!  It's worth it to learn!  I'm a n00b too!
[06:33] <twirpie> lmao
[06:33] <TheFaction20> lmao
[06:34] <TheFaction20> a lil late
[06:34] <fiendskull9> !windows
[06:34] <TheFaction20> he already gave up
[06:34] <ubotu> fiendskull9: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:34] <fiendskull9> lol
[06:34] <fiendskull9> !bill gates
[06:34] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[06:34] <TheFaction20> !satan
[06:34] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, TheFaction20
[06:34] <ian_> FlannelKing: Could you point me in that direction?
[06:34] <dle> Hi. Does breezy install an MTA by default in a desktop install?
[06:34] <ian_> FlannelKing: Maybe a link?
[06:34] <twirpie> how do i get ubuntu to reconize things like cd roms hard drives and such?
[06:34] <fiendskull9> dle, mta?
[06:34] <rishi> ubuntu: you deleting your temp files and cookies and porn is nothing to do with ubuntu...you're browser does it
[06:35] <dle> Mail Transfer Agent.
[06:35] <fiendskull9> dle, yes
[06:35] <ian_> General Question:  Anyone know if I should stay with Ubuntu or switch to RH?
[06:35] <fiendskull9> dle, and you can dl firebirs
[06:35] <fiendskull9> *firebird
[06:35] <xerophyte> enterprise edition ?? where can i find it ??
[06:35] <dle> fiendskull9: postfix, is it?
[06:35] <rishi> ian_: the new enterprise edition doesn't come out till like sept
[06:35] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: it says "cant open display (null)"
[06:35] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, shit
[06:36] <twirpie> fiendskull9 ???
[06:36] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, try typing startx
[06:36] <FlannelKing> ian_: synaptic.  system > administration > Synaptic Package MAnager.  You might have to enable extra repositories.  You cna also search online at packages.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: already tried, just stays black and I have to restart
[06:36] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, i dunno man
[06:36] <jbritz22> ill ask everyone again
[06:36] <tristanmike> fiendskull9: please watch the language in here, there can be children present
[06:36] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, try reinstalling ubuntu?
[06:36] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: bno way
[06:36] <h0nus> NickGarvey: is debfoster already installed with breezy, or do i need to apt-get it?
[06:36] <NickGarvey> h0nus: apt-get away my friend
[06:37] <rishi> anyone running dapper here with xgl?
[06:37] <tristanmike> !dapper
[06:37] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:37] <fiendskull9> rishi, no, but i want too :P
[06:37] <jbritz22> ok, anyone, i bought a new monitor today, my old one works, but when I get to the login screen of ubuntu, it turns black, ubuntus still working cause I can still here it,
[06:37] <ian_> FlannelKing: Thank you!
[06:37] <rishi> fiendskull9: lets make it happen
[06:37] <arrick> What packages do i need to install printers in gnome?
[06:37] <fiendskull9> arrick, just do the printer manager
[06:38] <twirpie> how do i get ubuntu to reconize things like cd roms hard drives and such?
[06:38] <fiendskull9> arrick, system | administration | printing
[06:38] <fiendskull9> twirpie, it should automatically
[06:38] <jbritz22> can anyone help me
[06:38] <fiendskull9> twirpie, are u wanting to read another HDD partition?
[06:38] <twirpie> well i can use them but it doesnt see them.... make any sense?
[06:38] <h0nus> NickGarvey: every time i apt-get i get the pastebin i sent you
[06:38] <NickGarvey> jbritz22: I'd say google is your best, look for you particular product number
[06:38] <NickGarvey> h0nus: should still get the program..
[06:38] <ian_> General: Thank you everyone for your help.  I love linux and I love the community.  I'm so very glad I converted from MicroScr*w.
[06:38] <jbritz22> NickGarvey: i cant get on google....
[06:39] <NickGarvey> h0nus: should just flip out in the process
[06:39] <phenex> is there a way to install all the alsa stuff by one package?
[06:39] <arrick> friendskull9: its not there for some reason
[06:39] <jbritz22> im sure someone can help me...XD
[06:39] <NickGarvey> jbritz22: maybe a kanotix boot cd would help
[06:39] <fiendskull9> arrick, fiend, lol. hmmmmmmm
[06:39] <rishi> hahahaha
[06:39] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, i dunno man, really. its a first time hearing about this.
[06:39] <TheFaction20> ian_:i know how u feel im already liking linux. its like u can rest assured that when u hop on here ull get help
[06:40] <rishi> fiendskull9: dude, its hard...immediately the mind puts the r there, you know? :)
[06:40] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, ubuntu does have the best irc channel.
[06:40] <jbritz22> NickGarvey: isnt there a way to make it scan and find new hardware...eek windows is looking good
[06:40] <arrick> yeah, How do I seperate the gnome and xubuntu guis?
[06:40] <MistaED> hey does anyone know if it's possible to run twain drivers under wine for scanners unsupported by sane?
[06:40] <fiendskull9> rishi, fie <tab>
[06:40] <arrick> might be a problem here
[06:40] <twirpie> welp i need to go pack a bowl before it gets too late :)~
[06:40] <ian_> TheFaction20: Amen.  Still not sure if I'm running the right Dist for me though.
[06:40] <h0nus> NickGarvey: ok i'm not sure what i should be keeping
[06:40] <rishi> fiendskull9: WOAH
[06:40] <rishi> fiendskull9: NO WAY
[06:40] <h0nus> NickGarvey: what is alien?
[06:40] <conga> wow
[06:40] <conga> ubuntu is growing eh
[06:40] <fiendskull9> arrick, when u start, at the login, click sessions then xubuntu.
[06:40] <rishi> fiendskull9: this is the greatest invention ever man
[06:40] <NickGarvey> !alien
[06:40] <ubotu> well, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:40] <arrick> I hit startx, and it says gnome is loading, and then it shows xfce on the desktop
[06:40] <ian_> TheFaction20: I'm curious about the others, but why mess with a good thing.
[06:40] <fiendskull9> rishi, it works in everything
[06:40] <h0nus> !alien
[06:41] <fiendskull9> rishi, if your in terminal and u have to do a long dir name
[06:41] <arrick> I didnt get a gui login
[06:41] <arrick> brb
[06:41] <JAyRULE> i installed ubuntu earlier today and it doesn;t recognize an ethernet card... i figured i could edit it in the device manager, but... i figured wrong haa... how can i get around this?
[06:41] <fiendskull9> rishi, like Monkeys eat poo, instead of cd Monkeys\ eat\ poo, just do cd Monkey <tab>
[06:41] <ian_> h0nus: type !alien in this screen.
[06:41] <h0nus> !alien
[06:41] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:41] <TheFaction20> ian_:yeah... i hear u. i heard this was a good starting and even good advanced distro and it was free so not gonna argue. but i might be getting a linux book with other distros on an included disc so who knows
[06:41] <h0nus> ian_: so prolly ok to clean out?
[06:41] <NickGarvey> TheFaction20: do not get linux for dummies!
[06:41] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, Get the linux bible 2005 edition.
[06:42] <ian_> h0nus: Read what Ubotu says to you.
[06:42] <NickGarvey> TheFaction20: its a weak book that covers little!
[06:42] <TheFaction20> nickgarvey:yeah i wasnt looking at that
[06:42] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, i got the linux bible, and i loved it,
[06:42] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, plus it came with fedora 3, which i use on my server :)
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> fiendskull9: How much is that?
[06:42] <Blue-Steel> !tell Blue-Steel about gnome
[06:42] <JAyRULE> anyone?
[06:42] <NickGarvey> fiendskull9: mm so did linux for dummies
[06:42] <TheFaction20> fiendskull9:i think thats what i was looking at the other day. not sure tho.  what do u guys think about the linux pocket guide?
[06:43] <h0nus> !xpdf
[06:43] <ubotu> h0nus: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:43] <ian_> TheFaction20: Me too.  Gonna go get some books, some cd's...play around.  Also have access to lots of hard-drives, so I might multi-boot.
[06:43] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: sure it doesn't see the card?
[06:43] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, you need knowledge of linux for the LPG, lol.
[06:43] <Blue-Steel> what is the name  of the package  that installs  the fll gnome ? gnome-bin ?
[06:43] <rishi> ian_, TheFaction20: i've tried a lot of others...ubuntu is the best
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> TheFaction20: That the one geared toward Fedora?  I have that.
[06:43] <rishi> everythign else is s#!t
[06:43] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: no
[06:43] <fiendskull9> ian_, be careful, some distros use LILO, which will overwrite grub, making other grub induced distros in acsessible
[06:43] <fiendskull9> !tell ian_ about LILO
[06:43] <fiendskull9> !tell ian_ about lilo
[06:43] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: you are not sure, or no it doesn't
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> rishi lacks of many pacages available on gentoo for example. have u tried knoppix ?
[06:44] <fiendskull9> ah
[06:44] <ian_> rishi: Thanks for the input.  There's nothing wrong with ubuntu and lots very right...likely to stay with it.
[06:44] <bimberi> TheFaction20: the LPG is good for the experienced but forgetful :)
[06:44] <fiendskull9> rishi, gentoo owns all, frankly. but it would make it even beter with apt-get
[06:44] <h0nus> NickGarvey: if i have upgraded to linux 2.6.10-6-386 or later, do i need 2.6.10-5-386?
[06:44] <ian_> h0nus: Did I miss your ?
[06:44] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: me, i dont know.  but my bro looked at the "device manager" and did not see it installed... (i installed ubuntu on his old pc)
[06:45] <gza> hi
[06:45] <fiendskull9> Hey guys
[06:45] <h0nus> ian_: no =)
[06:45] <fiendskull9> i have to sleep
[06:45] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: go into console and type "ifconfig"
[06:45] <fiendskull9> ill cya all later
[06:45] <NickGarvey> night fiendskull9
[06:45] <rishi> i have tried gentoo, kororaa live, fedora 5, and one other i can't remember
[06:45] <fiendskull9> rishi, whats your aim damnit!?
[06:45] <Blue-Steel> so no one knows
[06:45] <Blue-Steel> ok....
[06:45] <rishi> i din't like any of them
[06:45] <gza> Is there a floppy/network install available for Ubuntu? i.e. 1 floppy to boot and install the rest via FTP?
[06:45] <TheFaction20> i was thinking of picking it up in addition to the linux bible
[06:45] <rishi> fiendskull9: i msged you it, did you not get it?
[06:45] <ian_> h0nus: I came here to find out about .rpm conversion as well.  Gonna use alien and see how it goes.
[06:45] <fiendskull9> rishi, nope
[06:46] <TheFaction20> not in place of it
[06:46] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: okay... what am i looking for?
[06:46] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: know how pastebin works?
[06:46] <ian_> General uestion: Is there a good reason for me -not- to use Alien?
[06:46] <h0nus> ian_: if i have upgraded to linux 2.6.10-6-386 or later, do i need 2.6.10-5-386?
[06:46] <rishi> the closest to ubuntu was fedora 5 though...great distro
[06:46] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: sorry... kind of a newb
[06:46] <crimsun> h0nus: no
[06:46] <fiendskull9> h0nus, do u mean the kernel?
[06:46] <NickGarvey> ian_: read what it said, you can mess things up
[06:46] <ian_> h0nus: I'm a n00b too man.  Don't know the answer to that.
[06:46] <NickGarvey> !tell JAyRULE about pastebin
[06:46] <fiendskull9> rishi, i think fedora 5 isnt out :P you mean fedora 4?
[06:47] <h0nus> ian_: np
[06:47] <newbie2all> can anybody plz tell me wat sun-rpc portmap is theres alot of connections from it coming up on my firewall
[06:47] <NickGarvey> !portmap
[06:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[06:47] <h0nus> fiendskull9: it's a boot option that's all i know
[06:47] <fiendskull9> rishi, actually, Debian GNU is the closest to ubuntu. as its what ubuntu was built over.
[06:47] <NickGarvey> eh
[06:47] <ian_> NickGarvey: Is there an alternative to alien that is less likely?
[06:47] <fiendskull9> h0nus, hmm, leave it there anywhere
[06:47] <NickGarvey> ian_: not as far as I know, Id just compile from source if I needed
[06:47] <h0nus> ok
[06:47] <fiendskull9> rishi, tell me your aim sn or ill eat your soul
[06:48] <ian_> NickGarvey: I have no idea how to compile.  I'm learning on my own so far...
[06:48] <rishi> fiendskull9: no by closest to ubuntu i mean the next best that i thought compared to ubuntu was fedora 5
[06:48] <fiendskull9> !tell ian_ about compiling
[06:48] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: you want me to post what i see on that website?
[06:48] <ian_> !compiling
[06:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[06:48] <fiendskull9> rishi, alright, now tell me your aim sn!
[06:48] <rishi> and i'm talking about fedora 5 test flight 3
[06:49] <rishi> fiendskull9: you just imed me!
[06:49] <rishi> i'm talking to you
[06:49] <fiendskull9> rishi, no your not
[06:49] <rishi> oh
[06:49] <fiendskull9> rishi, on aim?
[06:49] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: no, you paste what "ifconfig" spits on your screen into that website, and give me the link it makes
[06:49] <fiendskull9> rishi, lol, you never told me your sn!
[06:50] <ian_> One more Question: Is there a good place to get games (legally) for Linux?  I miss being able to play games that were playable on XP.  I won't go back even if I can't play them.
[06:50] <rishi> fiendskull9: my bad...trillians got me all weird...i just sent it to you via that message you had sent me
[06:50] <NickGarvey> !games
[06:50] <ubotu> well, games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[06:50] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: okay.... ill be a couple min ... my floppy drive doesnt work either
[06:50] <fiendskull9> ian_, UT2004 works on linux, and its like 30 bucks
[06:50] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: (so i cant output to file)
[06:50] <NickGarvey> ian_: theres a lot of good games and many windows games can be used using cegora (sp) and wine
[06:50] <rishi> fiendskull9: did it work this time?
[06:50] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: why not? ifconfig > file.txt
[06:50] <fiendskull9> rishi, my aim sn is atleebass
[06:51] <fiendskull9> rishi, hurry up and im me, i have to go
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> dosbox and your good old DOS gamaes - is run
[06:51] <driggers> anyone know how to sync a motorola razr v3 to ubuntu via usb?
[06:51] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: yeah.. but i cant get it to another pc
[06:51] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: ...since floppy doesnt work either...
[06:51] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: ah ha
[06:51] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: okie
[06:51] <ian_> NickGarvey: I'm running a ~750MhZ P3 and 384 of RAM...I'm afraid to use WINE lest my computer die.  Opinion?
[06:52] <NickGarvey> ian_: hmm... guess it depends on what you are trying to run..
[06:53] <ian_> NickGarvey: I'd shut down everything and just run UT2004 or sucvh on WINE if it'd not kill my box.
[06:53] <rishi> dude
[06:53] <rishi> UT2004
[06:53] <rishi> GREAT GAME
[06:53] <ian_> NickGarvey: I also love Command and Conquer type games....I'm fairly easy to please...
[06:54] <rishi> i'm thinking of trying WoW
[06:54] <h0nus> NickGarvey: i solved the problem with everything but postfix, mailx, and mutt
[06:54] <rishi> but i don't think i'm that type of gamer
[06:54] <ian_> rishi: It will eat your soul.  NO social life if you do.
[06:54] <rishi> ian_: for real?  shit, i need girls and beer more
[06:54] <ian_> rishi: Much like EverCrack.  (spits on both games)
[06:54] <NickGarvey> h0nus: try to get rid of things that are locking those in
[06:55] <NickGarvey> h0nus: maybe apt-get install sendmail
[06:55] <rishi> hahaha
[06:55] <NickGarvey> ian_: http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20040419200456201
[06:55] <rishi> ian_: besides, i think i am more the "see a badguy, shoot him in the face" type of gamer...although c&c is a lot of fun...i liked tiberian sun alot, even though it was pretty one sided
[06:55] <sinaduel> hello, I need help, I have a GeForce FX 5200, it has a video out cable that connects to a TV how do I make it display?
[06:56] <arrick>  I need to get rid of xubunto so gnome will run by itself, how?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  no you dont need to get rid of it.
[06:56] <ubuntu> hi
[06:56] <rishi> arrick: just start gdm instead of kdm right?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  you can install gnome-desktop and ubuntu-desktop and even kubuntu-desktop - then pick what to use at login time
[06:57] <ian_> NickGarvey and Rishi and FlannelKing and Everyone else:  Thanks for your help.. I'll likely be back after I try these suggestions and such.  Have a lot of reading ahead of me.  Good night.
[06:57] <xbmodder_lappy> hey
[06:57] <NickGarvey> night ian_
[06:57] <arrick> Dr_willis: how do I pick, it automatically starts xubuntu when I type startx
[06:57] <rishi> ian_ no prob man
[06:57] <arrick> thats what someone told me earlier
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> What's the difference {g,k,x}dm ?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  you use the GDM login manager.. is how. :P
[06:57] <ian_> <waves goodnight and poofs>
[06:57] <rishi> Dr_Willis: whats ubuntu desktop
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  or make a .xinitrc that will start what you want.
[06:57] <NickGarvey> tonyyarusso: just what screen you get when it boots
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey: How do the screens differ?
[06:58] <arrick> which is what?
[06:58] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10893
[06:58] <arrick> how do I get to the GDM Login Manager?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  meta-package for some of the ubuntu stuff..  :P has some extra gnome-utils in it as well I think
[06:58] <h0nus> does anyone know the full package name for sapr3 module?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  sudo gdm     is one way
[06:58] <h0nus> i can't seem to apt-get it
[06:58] <xbmodder_lappy>  hey everyone, run this benchmark: glx`echo ez -es / |tr A-Za-z N-ZA-Mn-za-m`gears
[06:58] <NickGarvey> tonyyarusso: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gdm
[06:58] <arrick> ok thanks
[06:58] <h0nus> !sapr3
[06:58] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h0nus
[06:58] <xbmodder_lappy> I wanna see what you guys get
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  normally the system should boot to a login manager.
[06:58] <rishi> Dr_Willis: i don't know what that means, but i will try?
[06:58] <rishi> haha
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey: Ah, looks good.
[06:59] <arrick> it boots to the server, then I have to start the gui
[06:59] <rishi> tonyyarusso: they are just like diferent looks man
[06:59] <xbmodder_lappy> anyone got results?
[06:59] <rishi> that's the best way to explain them i guess, haha.
[06:59] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: yup it doesnt see it, make sure its seated in the pci slot well
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  if you install kiubuntu, or xubuntu, you may have to install  ubuntu-desktop for some of the little tools. :P
[06:59] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: well... it was running fine under windows 98
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  the different desktops are differnt programs/desktiop enviroments. :P
[06:59] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: have the driver for it?
[07:00] <rishi> i have good old regular ubuntu...so i guess i have the tools?
[07:00] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: although eth0 has worked out of the box for me normally
[07:00] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: ummmm.... id have to ask my bro..since it was his...
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  yep - its allready installed then
[07:00] <NickGarvey> mm I need to go shortly, have a 400 pg book to ready in 6 hours
[07:00] <rishi> Dr_Willis: right...like how kde has konquere and whatnot
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  yep.
[07:00] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: what if i dont have the driver?
[07:00] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: download it
[07:01] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: although you might try to move it to a different pci slot
[07:01] <rishi> i think its gay that after i install windows, its going to fry GRUB and i have to reinstall it
[07:01] <NickGarvey> !gay
[07:01] <NickGarvey> !grub
[07:01] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:01] <ABCD> I can't get sound to work in a more-or-less vanilla Breezy install
[07:01] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: damn... how do i get my flopy drive running?
[07:01] <NickGarvey> aw it PMs me instead
[07:01] <NickGarvey> !floppy
[07:01] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[07:01] <arrick> man, I like being able to run two gui at the same time
[07:01] <ladofnod> two parter: can i simply plugin a pci card to "install" it with ubuntu (ie recognize it right away) and what kind software would i need to use for a pci tv tuner card?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  - write a letter to Bill Gates!
[07:02] <rishi> Dr_Willis: oh believe me, he's on my bad list
[07:02] <NickGarvey> ladofnod: http://www.tv-cards.com/linux.php
[07:02] <nomasteryoda|w> fecal roster
[07:02] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: k thanks!!! ill give that a go
[07:02] <nomasteryoda|w> :=
[07:02] <ladofnod> word
[07:02] <ladofnod> thanks
[07:02] <NickGarvey> :) night guys
[07:02] <rishi> peace homie
[07:03] <rishi> okay, i have a question.  I have an old ass hauppauge wintv card...can i make it work in linux?
[07:04] <DBO> what card rishi?
[07:05] <DBO> PVR-250?
[07:05] <ozzloy> hitting 'www' no longer opens firefox, and links in other apps don't open in ff either.  how do i fix that?
[07:05] <rishi> haha...no...lemme check real quick DBO
[07:05] <h0nus> !libssh
[07:05] <ubotu> h0nus: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:05] <esc_ape> ozzloy - system>preferences>preferred apps
[07:06] <esc_ape> webbrowser firefox
[07:06] <h0nus> !lpq
[07:06] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h0nus
[07:06] <rishi> DBO: i am pretty sure it is an 881 based wintv card
[07:07] <DBO> USB?
[07:07] <ozzloy> esc_ape: ah, now i know what the problem was.  it had mozilla-firefox, needed 'firefox'
[07:07] <esc_ape> working now?
[07:07] <rishi> DBO: PCI
[07:07] <ozzloy> esc_ape: indeed!  thanks!
[07:07] <esc_ape> yup np
[07:08] <ABCD> I cannot get sound to work in Ubuntu.  Any suggestions on where to start to find the problem?
[07:08] <rishi> any idea DBO?
[07:08] <esc_ape> ABCD - what sound card?
[07:09] <ABCD> I'm not sure
[07:09] <DBO> rishi, I believe it should have a driver, but I am looking for verification
[07:09] <DBO> I have the PVR-150, but that is considerably newer
[07:09] <rishi> yeah, definitely
[07:10] <bimberi> rishi: is it currently installed?  if so, does 'lsmod | grep bttv' output anything?
[07:10] <DBO> btw, 881 is USB, 880 is PCI
[07:10] <rishi> i'll check that hold up
[07:10] <DBO> I believe
[07:10] <rishi> according to the site
[07:10] <rishi> it says 881-based PCI boards
[07:10] <DBO> wait my bad
[07:10] <DBO> yeah, there are some
[07:10] <esc_ape> ABCD - do this. open terminal and type sudo lshw
[07:10] <DBO> but damn they are hidden
[07:11] <esc_ape> see what it says under multimedia
[07:11] <Elhaz> Alguien me puede ayudar con la conexion a internet de Ubuntu?
[07:11] <bimberi> rishi: btw don't paste the output, if the kernel has recognised it it should put out a few lines
[07:11] <ABCD> !spanish
[07:11] <ubotu> I guess spanish is Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:11] <Elhaz> Thank you
[07:12] <rishi> bimberi: i got a bunch of stuff outputted, what am i looking for?
[07:12] <bimberi> rishi: at this stage, just that more than nothing was output.
[07:12] <kat> Question: Is there (and where do I find) a 'FreeRam' for Ubuntu?
[07:13] <marlun> What can I use to unrar a split rar archive (bah.rar, bah.r01, etc)?
[07:13] <bimberi> rishi: i reckon you could try installing something like 'tvtime' and see if it just works (tm) :)
[07:13] <rishi> for real?  you think its already working? woah..that would be great
[07:14] <rishi> how do i set the root password?
[07:14] <bimberi> rishi: linux is usually very good with old hardware
[07:14] <rishi> or actually, i should say
[07:14] <bimberi> !tell rishi about root
[07:14] <dotheuganda> hi!
[07:14] <Madpilot> rishi, you don't really need a root pw in Ubuntu...
[07:14] <dotheuganda> i have a problem with my removable storage thing
[07:15] <rishi> bimberi: the reason i ask is because i tried to login as root, and the only password i created didnt' work
[07:15] <ABCD> esc_ape: This looks like it might be the relevent section from the lshw output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10894
[07:15] <bimberi> rishi: check that link ubotu has /msg-d you
[07:15] <Madpilot> rishi, read the URL bimberi sent you - the short version is that Ubuntu uses sudo & your own user pw
[07:15] <JAyRULE> in the file browser, i tried to click on "floppy drive" and it gives me a "mount error" reading "given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[07:15] <rishi> yeah, i got it, am readong through it now
[07:16] <esc_ape> ABCD - I have the same card. there's a trick to get it to work
[07:16] <dotheuganda> my removable drive is like an mp3 thing
[07:16] <pulgoki> is there a cool system monitor for gnome like the one used in kde that puts all of the tickers on your background but look transparent?
[07:16] <esc_ape> hopefully I remember exactly how to do it
[07:16] <dotheuganda> it wont let me unmount
[07:16] <dotheuganda> any help?
[07:17] <Intangir> hahaha i just saw a story on maxX where a cat got his collar tangled and was getting strangled
[07:17] <rishi> if i want to change a folder permission i use chown right?
[07:17] <cdubya> I'm running xfce4 on this installation and I'm having some weird issues now......the default file manager that was setup when I booted xfce was rox, but I changed that in the menu editor and used nautilus and that wreaked havoc on xfce. I now can't seem to figure out how to get the right-mouse clicks to work in xfce as well as scrolling in windows (using page up and dn.....). Any ideas?
[07:17] <Intangir> so it dialed 911. and got someone to come out and save him!
[07:17] <TorChile> rishi:: use chmod
[07:17] <TorChile> not chown
[07:17] <ian_> Help Question: Is anyone familiar with a program called FreeRam (for Windows)?  I'm trying to find an equivelent for Ubuntu.
[07:17] <Madpilot> ian_, what does it do?
[07:18] <ian_> MadPilot: It clears RAM cache?  I think...
[07:18] <esc_ape> cdubya - check out #xfce
[07:18] <dotheuganda> it won't let me unmount!
[07:18] <Madpilot> ian_, Linux does that already
[07:18] <rishi> TorChile: can you give me an example of how to use it...to change from root to me?
[07:18] <TorChile> sure
[07:19] <ian_> MadPilot: Are you serious!?!?!
[07:19] <TorChile> first go to the folder above the one you want to change
[07:19] <TorChile> open a terminal there
[07:19] <Madpilot> rishi, "sudo chown rishi:rishi /name/of/folder"
[07:19] <Madpilot> ian_, yes
[07:19] <JAyRULE> how do i mount the floppy drive
[07:19] <JAyRULE> ?
[07:20] <dotheuganda> how do i unmount this removable storage thingy!
[07:20] <rishi> TorChile, Madpilot: that's it?
[07:20] <TorChile> yep
[07:20] <Madpilot> rishi, pretty much - where I put rishi:rishi, you put your own user name
[07:20] <TorChile> I think so
[07:20] <TorChile> hey Madpilot
[07:20] <esc_ape> ABCD - run alsamixer in the terminal
[07:20] <rishi> Madpilot: and that changes from root to me?
[07:20] <rishi> Sweet!
[07:21] <TorChile> whats the diff between chmod and chown
[07:21] <TorChile> ??
[07:21] <marlun> Anyone who can help me on how to unrar a rar archive that is split into multiple .rXX files?
[07:21] <Madpilot> rishi, yes - but be careful doing that, you can mess your system up with chown...
[07:21] <esc_ape> and enable digital something or another...
[07:21] <ian_> MadPilot: So let me get this straight (is still incredulous at how bloody cool Linux is)...Linux has an automatic Memory Management System?  Optimizes and frees RAM on the fly to increase performance?
[07:21] <marlun> I installed unrar but I can't seem to get it to work.
[07:21] <dotheuganda> mount help??????????/////////
[07:21] <rishi> marlun: just pick any of them and un rar
[07:21] <esc_ape> one of the options is disabled...and you have to turn it on
[07:21] <Madpilot> TorChile, chown changes ownership; chmod only changes permissions
[07:21] <TorChile> oh
[07:21] <rishi> oh
[07:21] <TorChile> thanks
[07:21] <rishi> thanks
[07:21] <rishi> haha
[07:22] <marlun> rishi, I do "unrar -e file.rar" but I just get an error.
[07:22] <TorChile> :-)
[07:22] <TorChile> what error
[07:22] <Madpilot> ian_, pretty much - Linux will use as much cache as it can/needs, and swap stuff in and out of it as needed
[07:22] <rishi> oh i just right click haha.
[07:22] <ian_> Madpilot: Which XP/Windows does not?
[07:22] <pulgoki> hmm
[07:22] <Madpilot> ian_, no idea, it's been almost a year since I ran XP... :P
[07:23] <marlun> TorChile, not an error it shows me the command arguments.
[07:23] <pulgoki> does opera browser come with unbuntu?
[07:23] <ABCD> esc_ape: thanks
[07:23] <dotheuganda> thanks you bastards
[07:23] <marlun> rishi, what application do you use then?
[07:23] <Madpilot> pulgoki, no, but it's easy to install
[07:23] <ABCD> it worked
[07:23] <Madpilot> !tell pulgoki about opera
[07:23] <TorChile> hmm...
[07:23] <TorChile> check man unrar
[07:24] <ian_> MadPilot: When I was using XP, I had to DL FreeRam...When I used it, I noticed marke increase in performance because it would free up my RAM rather than try to0 write over the used ram while using a prog.
[07:24] <rishi> marlun, i don't use anything special
[07:24] <TorChile> linux is much more efficient at RAM management
[07:24] <esc_ape> ABCD - did that work?
[07:24] <ian_> TorChile: Excellent.
[07:25] <ABCD> esc_ape: yes
[07:25] <rishi> bimberi: can you teach me how to install tvtime? hahahaha
[07:25] <esc_ape> cool - I cant believe I remember that...been awhile since I installed breezy
[07:25] <rishi> now i'm embarrased at my noobishness
[07:25] <pulgoki> Madpilot: thanks
[07:25] <ian_> Ok, night...gain.  And thanks MadPilot and TorChile.
[07:26] <TorChile> cool
[07:26] <Madpilot> ian_, np, have fun
[07:26] <ian_> :)
[07:26] <hippie23> hello
[07:26] <rishi> Dr_Willis thanks
[07:26] <rishi> haha
[07:26] <rishi> but i would still like help on how to install it
[07:26] <Madpilot> rishi, tvtime is in Universe, so just use Synaptic or apt-get
[07:26] <Madpilot> !info tvtime
[07:26] <bimberi> rishi: if you have the universe repository enabled you should be able to 'sudo aptitude install tvtime'
[07:26] <ubotu> tvtime: (A high quality television application), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1740 kB
[07:27] <hippie23> im having some problems installing quake3... I run the .sh file and it just opens another blank termanal and does nothing
[07:27] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, if I want to add a shortcut to an application in the "applications" menu, how would I do it ?
[07:27] <rishi> bimberi: well i downloaded it and extracted it onto my desktop already, i wanted to learn how to install it from there
[07:27] <TorChile> Remy
[07:27] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, right-click on the Apps menu, choose Edit Menu
[07:27] <TorChile> use the menu editor
[07:28] <arrick> Dr_Willis: I'm back with gnome running
[07:28] <arrick> finally
[07:28] <TorChile> so am i
[07:28] <rishi> bimberi: and 'sudo aptitude install tvtime' didn't work...it couldn't find the file
[07:28] <arrick> really slow though
[07:28] <TorChile> went top KDE for a while
[07:29] <bimberi> rishi: ah, well installing from the ubuntu repository would be recommeded - otherwise you can have a look here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[07:29] <TorChile> but came back
[07:29] <arrick> help.
[07:29] <bimberi> rishi: do you have universe enabled ...
[07:29] <bimberi> !universe
[07:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:29] <rishi> well, we'll find out
[07:29] <TorChile> how many of you are running Dapper
[07:29] <arrick> I set up CUPS with the terminal and now GNOME cant contact it?
[07:30] <hippie23> breezy here
[07:30] <rishi> bimberi: i'm running dapper, wouldn't universe be on by default?
[07:30] <arrick> torchile: #dapper+1
[07:30] <bimberi> rishi: not necessarily no
[07:30] <jbritz22> yay, got my monitor problem fixed
[07:30] <TorChile> dapper+1??
[07:30] <arrick> for your page
[07:30] <bimberi> #ubuntu+1
[07:30] <TorChile> whats +1
[07:30] <TorChile> ??
[07:30] <rishi> bimberi: where do i go, into synaptic?
[07:30] <arrick> thanks bimberi
[07:30] <bimberi> arrick: np :)
[07:31] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:31] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:31] <arrick> bimbiri: you see my last post?
[07:31] <bimberi> yes, that AddingRepositoriesHowto page (ubotu above) has the details
[07:31] <arrick> I think I am making enemies, askign so many questions
[07:31] <rishi> me too arrick
[07:31] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:31] <bimberi> rishi: yes, that AddingRepositoriesHowto page (ubotu above) has the details
[07:32] <hippie23> im having some problems installing quake3... I run the .sh file and it just opens another blank termanal and does nothing
[07:32] <hippie23> what can I do to make it work
[07:32] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:32] <hippie23> or is it supposed to do that
[07:32] <arrick> I've watched 3 good users leave tonight as I ask them questions
[07:32] <arrick> ouch
[07:33] <rishi> just out of curiousity...where is the lil list file that would have these repos listed that i can just use text editor to manipulate?
[07:33] <tristanmike> rishi: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:33] <bimberi> arrick: is the cupsd running?  'ps aux | grep cupsd'
[07:33] <Dr_Fate> yest
[07:33] <jbritz22> whats the "lightest-weight" msn client for linux
[07:33] <Madpilot> rishi, /etc/apt/sources.list - "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:33] <arrick> I dont know, do run those in the terminal?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> jbritz22,  proberly one of the console based ones :P
[07:33] <bimberi> arrick: yep
[07:33] <rishi> yah...lets try it that way!
[07:34] <jbritz22> Dr_Willis: anything else?
[07:34] <arrick> cant launch the terminal in ubuntu?
[07:34] <arrick> no such child?
[07:34] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:34] <h0nus> can someone tell me what i'm missing-- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10895
[07:34] <bimberi> arrick: applications -> accessories -> terminal ??
[07:34] <wd3> do i have to save session everytime i log off of xfce on ubuntu?
[07:34] <riddlebox> is there a way to make totem play dvds, xine and mplayer can but totem says there are no decoders found to handle the stream?
[07:35] <arrick> bimbiri: 'Details: Failed to execute child process "Terminal" (No such file or directory)' is what I got
[07:35] <arrick> how is this?
[07:36] <tristanmike> !tell riddlebox about dvd
[07:36] <rishi> bimberi: i think i added the universe one, but its still not getting tvtime
[07:36] <crimsun> !info tvtime
[07:36] <ubotu> tvtime: (A high quality television application), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1740 kB
[07:37] <riddlebox> tristanmike, I said I can watch the dvds in xine and mplayer already but totem cant play them
[07:37] <bimberi> rishi: you need to 'sudo apt-get update' after editing the repository list
[07:37] <rishi> oh
[07:37] <wd3> do i have to save session everytime i log off of xfce on ubuntu?
[07:37] <rishi> how bout that
[07:38] <hippie23> wd3: no... I dont
[07:38] <bimberi> arrick: do you get that when you select the menu option
[07:38] <bimberi> ?
[07:38] <riddlebox> never mind I just installed the plugin to make it work off the xine engine
[07:38] <hippie23> doesnt seem to affect anything
[07:38] <arrick> yep
[07:38] <wd3> hippie23, well i installed conky and gdesklets, and everytime i log in session they aren't running, whats the save session for?
[07:38] <arrick> when I click on application>system tools>terminal is when I get it
[07:39] <rishi> bimberi: what does the aptitude part in 'sudo aptitude install tvtime' mean?
[07:39] <hippie23> to save your prevoius session
[07:39] <bimberi> arrick: run Synaptic and see if 'gnome-terminal' is installed
[07:39] <bimberi> rishi: aptitude is another package manager (like apt-get and synaptic) ...
[07:39] <bimberi> !tell rishi about aptitude
[07:39] <arrick> I find synaptic where?
[07:40] <arrick> !synaptic
[07:40] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:40] <hippie23> like I have xmms, streamtuner and gaim running, I log out and check the save session button, and they will be there when I boot up again
[07:40] <bimberi> arrick: self service :)
[07:40] <arrick> trying now
[07:40] <rishi> huh...aptitude seems pretty cool...maybe i shall start trying to use that
[07:41] <Fujitsu> df
[07:41] <rishi> bimberi: HOLY SH** it works!
[07:41] <hippie23> I unchecked the save session button to leave it so it brings up just xmms, streamtuner and gaim, but leaving it checked will start you from where you left off the previos time
[07:42] <arrick> this might take a while on this thing bimbiri
[07:42] <wd3> hippie23, when u log in do u choose start xfce or last?
[07:42] <bimberi> rishi: great! :)
[07:43] <hippie23> I just log in and and it automaticaly starts xfce... unless I tell it to start KDE or fluxbox
[07:43] <arrick> bimbiri: I dont see it, should be in the left side of the screen right?
[07:43] <hippie23> I like xfce so I lust use it all the time
[07:43] <bimberi> arrick: i'm assuming you're using gnome here, is that right?
[07:43] <arrick> yeah
[07:43] <hippie23> just*
[07:43] <jessid> hello! some of you know any tool to save power in my PC? for example put hard disks to sleep, or something like that?
[07:43] <arrick> I switched, just to get the system>admin>printers, so I can add my printer
[07:43] <bimberi> arrick: Synaptic is in the System -> Administration menu
[07:44] <arrick> I know
[07:44] <arrick> I found that, I mean 'gnome-terminal' should show up in the left pane of synaptic right?
[07:44] <johanbr> jessid: Ubuntu should do that for you by default, at least if you're on a laptop and running Breezy or Dapper.
[07:45] <wd3> hippie23, i want to use xfce all the time so how do i prevent the other options or how do i autochoose xfce to boot up?
[07:45] <jessid> no, I am working on a desktop machine, but I want to to some HD to sleep...
[07:45] <rishi> bimberi: any idea why the sound wouldn't be working?
[07:46] <rishi> like sounds work (ie, the ubuntu startup thing) but the tvtime sound isn't
[07:46] <bimberi> arrick: oh, kk :), well not for me -  it should appear in the package list when you search for it
[07:46] <johanbr> jessid: If you're mostly worried about the hd's, use hdparm ("man hdparm" for details). If you want a whole bunch of power-saving options, I'd recommend gnome-power-manager (available at least in Dapper).
[07:46] <arrick> in the right or left pane?
[07:46] <hippie23> when you lon in, it will pop up a box that tells you that xfce is not your defult session... click on the "make defult" button... then it should go to xfce every time
[07:47] <bimberi> rishi: not sure sorry, try fiddling with your volume settings (double-click on the volume applet)
[07:47] <bimberi> arrick: right pane
[07:47] <arrick> I have a green boxe next to in in synaptic
[07:47] <rishi> ok
[07:47] <jessid> johanbr thanks!
[07:48] <bimberi> arrick: if you right-click on it does is the install option available or greyed?
[07:48] <bimberi> arrick: 'Mark for installation' that is
[07:48] <wd3> hippie23, i don't see that box. i have a box at the top it says "last" then something else and the bottom it says "xfce" so i choose xfce.
[07:49] <arrick> mark for installation is greyed out
[07:49] <arrick> brb
[07:49] <hippie23> ok
[07:49] <hippie23> I cant explain it any further
[07:49] <rishi> bimberi: you are my hero...you know that right?
[07:50] <hippie23> I suck with written language
[07:50] <bimberi> arrick: hm, ok, not sure what's wrong with the menu option then.  Try <alt>F2 'gnome-terminal'  Run
[07:50] <bimberi> rishi: no, the giants on whose shoulders we stand are :)
[07:51] <rishi> bimberi: i thoroughly appreciate everything...the tv thing was the only reason i dual booted
[07:51] <bimberi> rishi: np, glad it's working :)
[07:51] <arrick> that did it thsnka bimbiri
[07:52] <bimberi> arrick: phew!
[07:52] <arrick> does this mean I should reinstall the terminal?
[07:52] <wd3> hippie23, what's the diff between last session and xfce?
[07:53] <arrick> bimbiri: I typed in ps aux, and the screen started going nuts
[07:53] <hippie23> im gonna go for a while... gotta bitch a freind out, I just turned on my ham radio and hered him talking crap about me
[07:54] <bimberi> arrick: i'm not sure, you could try right-clicking on Applications, selecting Edit Menus and verifying that the Terminal entry is trying to run 'gnome-terminal'
[07:54] <pvd2006> they have radio's for hams now?:-x
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> hippie23: That's a slightly unconventional way to hear someone gossip about you.
[07:54] <bimberi> arrick: 'ps aux | grep cupsd'
[07:54] <hippie23> it wasnt gossip
[07:54] <arrick> ok
[07:54] <hippie23> it was verry hurtful
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> hippie23: There's a difference?  Anyway, offtopic.
[07:55] <hippie23> <---keys up mic and says a few colorful words
[07:55] <arrick> how do I get that line in there?
[07:55] <hippie23> btw.. no1 is in the ubuntuofftopic #
[07:56] <arrick> bimbiri: how do I get that line in there?
[07:56] <bimberi> arrick: not sure what do you mean. type it at the prompt
[07:56] <arrick> I got it, I meant the line in between the letters
[07:57] <RemyLaptop> Hi guys,  the "command prompt" of my terminals currently say "david@laptop", does anyone know how to change that ?
[07:57] <RemyLaptop> I want to change the colors...
[07:57] <bimberi> arrick: ah, kk :)
[07:57] <Dr_Willis>  google for the bash prompt howto
[07:57] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, google for bash command prompt tutorial
[07:57] !lilo:*! Changes to http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml --- includes extensive clarification of the 'approving' and 'approved' contact roles, as well as information on proxy submittal and special scheduling requirements.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> and the advance -bash scripting guide. :P
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> all sorts of neat tricks ya can do
[07:58] <arrick> bimbiri: I sent you a message in the other window
[07:58] <rishi> dude i'm totally watching tv on my ubuntu
[07:58] <RememberPOL> Will Ubuntu v6.04 be released before April 20th?
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> !dapper
[07:58] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[07:59] <RememberPOL> rishi: Are you using MythTV?
[08:00] <rishi> no, i want to though now that i know it works
[08:00] <rishi> i'm currently using tvtime
[08:00] <hippie23> speaking of video stuff, my iMac has a dvdrom drive, I have totem, xine, and vlc players on it, but it wont play a dvd... it takes the disc, reads it, then spits it out... whats up with that?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> the disk must be porn.. so it tastes bad.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:00] <hippie23> no, it was Star Wars 1
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> Egads! its the force!
[08:01] <hippie23> does it with all my dvd's
[08:01] !lilo:*! A few more changes to http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml --- a note about the backlog and prose cleanup in the 'approved contact' section
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> My silly imac got so hot when playing dvd's it was scary
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> the dvds came out nioce and toasty
[08:02] <hippie23> mine gets so hot you can fry an egg on it just sitting idle
[08:02] <hippie23> LOL
[08:02] <PistolPedro> mine's cool as a cucumber :-p
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> Yea - appler really screwe people over on tha.. "its super quiet!"  - since we dident bother to put in any fans....
[08:02] <tristanmike> lol
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> I got an imacDV :P - its old and 128mb of ram..
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> Same here; cool as a cucumber.....that's been fried up to a nice 52C.
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> one of thse days i need to upgrade the ram.
[08:03] <PistolPedro> i don't use mac's :-P
[08:03] <arrick> me too
[08:03] <hippie23> that is one thing I like about my iMac... its quiet... this p3 sounds like a jet taking off
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[08:03] <hippie23> mine is an iMac DV400
[08:03] <hippie23> 256Mb ram
[08:03] <hippie23> 40Gb hdd
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> It is noce how the newer machines are all  getting quieter these days.
[08:03] <PistolPedro> haha skype got a rico suit filed against them
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> better fans, bearings, insulation/cases and so on
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> rico?
[08:04] <hippie23> rico?
[08:04] <PistolPedro> racketeering
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: A what?  (Using Skype at this very moment.)
[08:04] <hippie23> o
[08:04] <hippie23> and I use skype... a lot
[08:04] <PistolPedro> http://andyabramson.blogs.com/voipwatch/2006/03/skype_zennstrom.html
[08:05] <PistolPedro> rico is bad news. real bad
[08:05] <PistolPedro> and why use skype
[08:05] <PistolPedro> ekiga is so much better.
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> that has to be one of the worst laid out web sites ive seen in ages
[08:06] <PistolPedro> yea
[08:06] <PistolPedro> it's a slashdot article
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> the text is like in a 2 inch wide colum
[08:06] <PistolPedro>  Stitch_Surfs writes "Defendant Skype Technologies S A, Niklas Zennstrom, Janus Friis, Kazaa, Bluemoon Ou and a slew of others have been named in a Rico Suit Filed by StreamCast Networks, of Houston, Texas. StreamCast is the company credited with the development of the Peer to Peer Technology called Morpheus. From the little information the courts have released, StreamCast is claiming that the group engaged in corrupt business practi
[08:06] <PistolPedro> ces."
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> with 6 in of white space on the sides.
[08:06] <tristanmike> !offtopic
[08:06] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:07] <hippie23> looks like skype will go the way dos 1.0 did... GONE!
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: Tell about ekiga.  I'm thinking of switching to it.
[08:07] <PistolPedro> ekiga is formerly gnome meeting
[08:07] <hippie23> oh well
[08:08] <hippie23> I got teamspeak
[08:08] <PistolPedro> it's a very light weight configurable voip client that can connect to skype users and most other voip programs
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> offtopic meeans we nee dto get back to teaching newbies the basics of bash and 'what command does ......'
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:08] <rishi> peace guys..i need to sleep
[08:08] <arrick> night
[08:08] <PistolPedro> Ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: It can connect to Skype?  I thought that was a closed protocol?
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: Can it do conference calls?
[08:08] <ian_> Question:  When trying to install Boson (from "Games (universe)") in Synaptic package manager...I get "boson-base:
[08:08] <ian_>  Depends: kdelibs4 (>=4:3.2.3) but it is not installable
[08:08] <ian_>  Depends: libarts1 (>=1.2.3) but it is not installable
[08:08] <ian_>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.2.3-3) but it is not installable
[08:08] <ian_>  Depends: boson-data but it is not going to be installed"
[08:08] <tristanmike> !paste
[08:08] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:08] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, it can connect to skype users, and yes it can
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: What would you recommend I tell my Windows friends to use if I'm using it?  Does it matter?
[08:09] <ian_> <oops!
[08:09] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, gizmo works well with it
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[08:09] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, and gizmo has a client for all 3 os's i believe
[08:09] <jbritz22> whats a good partition manager for linux
[08:09] <PistolPedro> gparted
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: All right, I think I'm sold.
[08:09] <hippie23> where do I get akiga?
[08:09] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, download it.
[08:09] <PistolPedro> ekiga
[08:09] <PistolPedro> umm one sec
[08:10] <tristanmike> !info ekiga
[08:10] <PistolPedro> apt-get
[08:10] <PistolPedro> sudo apt-get install ekiga
[08:10] <hippie23> <--sux at spelling... damn dislexia!
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: Oh, one last thing: Can I hear my other sounds during a call?  (A current bug in Linux Skype.)
[08:10] <PistolPedro> yep
[08:10] <PistolPedro> cause it uses alsa
[08:10] <PistolPedro> not oSS
[08:10] <PistolPedro> !ubotu ekiga Ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[08:10] <ubotu> PistolPedro: okay
[08:10] <hippie23> oh crap
[08:10] <PistolPedro> !ekiga
[08:10] <ubotu> PistolPedro: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: Beautiful.
[08:10] <Ikoniak> Hey guys
[08:10] <PistolPedro> hmm..
[08:10] <hippie23> my sound card only works wit alsa
[08:10] <arrick> hey guys I got through the web to add my printer, can somewalk me through it please?
[08:10] <PistolPedro> !ubotu forget ekiga Ekiga
[08:10] <ubotu> PistolPedro: i forgot ekiga ekiga
[08:10] <ian_> Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to instal Boson (strategy game) on Ubuntu?
[08:11] <PistolPedro> !ubotu ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[08:11] <ubotu> okay, PistolPedro
[08:11] <PistolPedro> !ekiga
[08:11] <PistolPedro> good
[08:11] <PistolPedro> :-P
[08:11] <Ikoniak> I have a radeon 200m graphics card, is this compatable with ubuntu?
[08:11] <ian_> !boson
[08:11] <ubotu> ian_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:11] <tristanmike> !tell Ikoniak about ati
[08:11] <FlannelKing> ian_: it's actually in the repositories.
[08:11] <tristanmike> ian_: do you have the universe/mulitverse enabled?
[08:11] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, cool thing is you get a name like @ekiga.net people can just call that
[08:12] <PistolPedro> and it has automatic NAT traversal
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: That is slick.
[08:12] <arrick> !add Printer
[08:12] <ubotu> arrick: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:12] <ian_> TristanMike and FlannelKing: Wnet to SPN and looked under Games (Universe)
[08:12] <Madpilot> !tell arrick about printers
[08:12] <jbritz22> !pod
[08:12] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jbritz22
[08:12] <jbritz22> !ipod
[08:12] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[08:13] <ian_> TristanMike and FlannelKing: Tried to install, but it said uninstallable and will not be installed.
[08:13] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, you convinced :-P
[08:13] <tristanmike> ian_: do you have the universe/mulitverse enabled?
[08:13] <Madpilot> ian_, boson is in the Universe repo
[08:13] <FlannelKing> tristanmike: he found it, synaptic said uninstallable
[08:13] <ian_> tristanmike: I'm uncertain if I do.
[08:13] <jbritz22> whats an extended filestyem mean?
[08:13] <hippie23> just tried apt, and got this
[08:13] <hippie23> sudo apt-get install ekiga
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: I think so.  Might not actually do the switch until I get around to getting Dapper, just to do it all at once, but definitely sounds good.
[08:14] <badfish> hello
[08:14] <hippie23> oops
[08:14] <ian_> MadPilot: Ian is lost. ;(
[08:14] <badfish> have you guys seen what microsoft is trying to do now?
[08:14] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, yea it's very good
[08:14] <hippie23> E: Couldn't find package ekiga
[08:14] <PistolPedro> badfish, no ..
[08:14] <hippie23> that it
[08:14] <badfish> http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=31023&dl=3
[08:14] <badfish> its funny stuff
[08:14] <PistolPedro> hippie23, yea you need to add repo's
[08:14] <Madpilot> badfish, MS chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[08:14] <tristanmike> ekiga is _not_ in the repos
[08:14] <PistolPedro> yes it is
[08:14] <Madpilot> ian_, you used the terminal yet?
[08:14] <PistolPedro> user@System:~$ sudo apt-cache search ekiga
[08:14] <PistolPedro> ekiga - Free Your Speech
[08:14] <ian_> MadPilot: Nope.
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike: Probably only called that in Dapper.
[08:15] <PistolPedro> nope
[08:15] <PistolPedro> it's in my repo's fine
[08:15] <jbritz22> whats an extended partition?
[08:15] <tristanmike> ahh, Dapper, well, that explains everything
[08:15] <PistolPedro> i'm using it on breezy
[08:15] <ian_> Wish I could figure out how to change my font color here?
[08:15] <PistolPedro> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=5&path=ubuntu/breezy_i386
[08:15] <hippie23> when is dapper gonna be relised anyway?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> ian_: no font colours allowed in here...
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: apt-cache policy ekiga please.
[08:15] <tristanmike> !dapper
[08:15] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:15] <Hobbsee> hippie23: june
[08:15] <hippie23> ok
[08:15] <Madpilot> ian_, in Synaptic, go Settings->Repositories
[08:15] <ian_> Hobbsee: Then why are you showing in red?
[08:15] <PistolPedro> user@System:~$ apt-cache policy ekiga
[08:15] <PistolPedro> ekiga:
[08:15] <PistolPedro>   Installed: 2.0.1-1.breezy.1457
[08:15] <PistolPedro>   Candidate: 2.0.1-1.breezy.1457
[08:15] <PistolPedro>   Version table:
[08:16] <PistolPedro>  *** 2.0.1-1.breezy.1457 0
[08:16] <PistolPedro>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[08:16] <tristanmike> !paste
[08:16] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:16] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:16] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[08:16] <ian_> MadPilot: Gimme a sec.
[08:16] <Intangir> how the hell is my atheros wireless card supported.. i had to install madwifi on gentoo and i dont see it installed.. but .. im usingi t
[08:16] <Intangir> is this magic? hehe
[08:16] <Madpilot> ian_, you can change font colours in XChat
[08:16] <Hobbsee> ian_: because i replied to you, adding your nick into my statement
[08:16] <frank23> Intangir: linux-restricted-modules contains madwifi
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: But what repo is it coming from?
[08:16] <jbritz22> !partition
[08:16] <ubotu> jbritz22: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:16] <ian_> Hobbsee: Gotcha.
[08:16] <frank23> Intangir: magic!
[08:16] <jbritz22> !drive
[08:16] <ubotu> jbritz22: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:16] <jbritz22> lol
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, dunno
[08:17] <Intangir> oh ok
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, just download the .deb from the website
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: It should say after that line...
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, it doesn't
[08:17] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, ready.
[08:17] <Intangir> why is it called linux-restricted-modules
[08:17] <jbritz22> so noone can tell me what an extended partition is?
[08:17] <tristanmike> PistolPedro: right, cause it's not available for Breezy
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tristanmike, sure it is
[08:17] <josh-z> New Ubuntu forum at http://forum.ubuntuos.com/ :)
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: You must have downloaded the .deb then too.
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, maybe i don't remember
[08:17] <Intangir> also i tried to install some kind of nvidia package and it tried to unstall that..
[08:17] <RemyLaptop> ok, my bash prompt is buggered now :)
[08:18] <hippie23> heres a questiune for PPC users, my iMac's monitor is really dim and I cant find a brightness control anywere, whats a program for linux that controls the screen brightness and geometry?
[08:18] <RemyLaptop> !paste
[08:18] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:18] <Intangir> which seemed like a bad idea to me so i canceled..
[08:18] <jbritz22> xgamma
[08:18] <tristanmike> PistolPedro: it isn't and you can find out yourself at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:18] <Madpilot> ian_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:18] <hippie23> its all done in software on a Imac
[08:18] <PistolPedro> tristanmike, okay, i'm just saying it works perfectly on breezy
[08:18] <Madpilot> Intangir, it wanted to install the -restricted thing, or remove it?
[08:18] <frank23> !tell Intangir about nvidia
[08:18] <ian_> Madpilot: Thank you, again.....(hangs head in shame at his Linux n00bness)
[08:18] <tristanmike> PistolPedro: that's great, but it's not in the Breezy repos. that's all I'm saying
[08:19] <RemyLaptop> I'm getting an error when I start a terminal, my .bashrc can be seen here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10896
[08:19] <PistolPedro> tristanmike, k
[08:19] <Madpilot> ian_, no problem - check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto too
[08:19] <h0nus> please help-- i am trying to install saprfc with python (as instructed in the readme)
[08:19] <andrina> hi i installed java and my programs still tell me it cant be found...why would this be?
[08:19] <RemyLaptop> The error I get is: bash: /home/david/.bashrc: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:19] <RemyLaptop> bash: /home/david/.bashrc: line 1: `# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.'
[08:19] <Intangir> it wanted to remove it
[08:19] <h0nus> and i get the following-- error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[08:19] <Madpilot> Intangir, odd - I know zip about NVidia though, I run an ATI card - check the wiki's Nvidia page
[08:20] <Madpilot> !tell Intangir about nvidia
[08:20] <andrina> hi i installed java and my programs still tell me it cant be found...why would this be?
 http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=31023&dl=3
 nice article on microsoft future plans
[08:20] <frank23> Intangir: what did you try to install exactly?
[08:20] <Madpilot> badfish, please don't spam the channel like that
[08:20] <Hobbsee> badfish: that's offtopic, please
[08:20] <tristanmike> badfish: please take all MS and related stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:20] <ian_> Madpilot: I'm currently filling my browser's bookmark's with the links you guys send me so I can reference them often/easilly.
[08:20] <Intangir> i was going to install the newest nvidia, i was reading htis tutorial, it said to uninstall some old the old nvidia stuff
[08:20] <Intangir> when i tried to unstall it.. let me look real quick
[08:20] <andrina> !java
[08:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:21] <andrina> !javadebs
[08:21] <josh-z> Where would I start to start programing programs for Ubuntu and packaging them as deb. Any suggestions on what language I would want to use? (links are good :P)
[08:21] <Madpilot> andrina, on that wiki page, there's a section on getting your system to use Sun Java instead of the gjc stuff - it's right below the Sun Java install info
[08:21] <Intangir> nvidia-kernel-common
[08:21] <Intangir> i tried to uninstall nvidia-kernel-common nad it wanted me to uninstall linux-restircted-modules
[08:22] <ian_> Ok, and sometimes when I install from SPM, I can't find the app in my applications menu.  Where are these guys going?
[08:22] <Madpilot> ian_, some of the stuff in Synaptic doesn't have menu entries, that's all
[08:22] <PistolPedro> ian_, SPM ?
[08:22] <Madpilot> ian_, try Alt+F2, and type the package's name
[08:23] <Madpilot> PistolPedro, Synaptic Package Manager
[08:23] <PistolPedro> ah.
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> So when I upgrade to Dapper, I want to redo a bit of my partition layout, clean up lots of nonsense, start fresh, yadda yadda.  I'm thinking the best way is make some partitions on my roomie's 90GB drive, rsync my data over, clean install, and rsync back what I need.  How's that sound?
[08:24] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, sounds okay
[08:24] <gza> hi
[08:24] <frank23> does anyone have the problems where some wmv movies have screwed up audio in xine but play fine in mplayer?
[08:24] <ian_> Madpilot and PistolPedro: Once again, you guys are the best.  Thanks for making learning how to use Linux vastly easier for me.  (make the transission a lot easier).
[08:24] <RemyLaptop> anyone know why I get the following error: bash: /home/david/.bashrc: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:24] <RemyLaptop> bash: /home/david/.bashrc: line 1: `# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.'
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> Hello Live CD for making Linux partitions...(he's an MS type still)
[08:24] <PistolPedro> ian_, no problemo sir
[08:25] <andrina> !javadebs
[08:25] <andrina> !java
[08:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:25] <hippie23> well im out
[08:25] <RemyLaptop> I get that when opening a new terminal
[08:25] <hippie23> y'all have a good night
[08:25] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, because you've done something odd to your .bashrc file?
[08:25] <hippie23> peace
[08:25] <ian_> All: Everyone here that contributes to helping n00bs (like me)...Thank you.  Thank for/from all of us n00bs.  You're the reason some of us frustrated guys stay with it.
[08:26] <PistolPedro> ian_, i was a newb about a month ago
[08:26] <PistolPedro> :-P
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> ian_: You're welcome - we were all new once :)
[08:26] <ian_> All: You're the reason we don't go back to XP.  (spits on XP)
[08:26] <PistolPedro> i remember XP
[08:26] <PistolPedro> seems like years ago
[08:26] <fyrebat> hey, can someone help me out with a dumb linux question
[08:26] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, shoot
[08:26] <glm2k> what's XP? :)
[08:26] <tristanmike> fire away
[08:26] <fyrebat> how do I get permission to open a file?
[08:26] <PistolPedro> XP what ?
[08:26] <ian_> <smiles and goes back to messing around with linux, his new favorite toy>
[08:26] <RemyLaptop> Madpilot, changing my bashrc doens't seem to affect it anymore!
[08:27] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, sudo chmod +x filename ?
[08:27] <tristanmike> fyrebat: read about chmod
[08:27] <fyrebat> thx
[08:27] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, what kind of file, a program?
[08:27] <ian_> <forgets XP existed...."This is not the OS you seek"...>
[08:27] <fyrebat> dev cpp
[08:27] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, if you're updating your bashrc, type "source ~/.bashrc" to force a reload of that file
[08:27] <fyrebat> yeah, a program
[08:27] <RemyLaptop> ahk!
[08:28] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, then yea, sudo chmod +x programname
[08:28] <jbritz22> how do I make fluxbox maximize instead of shade on doubleclick
[08:28] <gza> Can I install from the ubuntu 5.10 liveCD? Can't seem to find any docs in regards to this
[08:28] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, or restart gnome-terminal - but 'source' is easier...
[08:28] <RemyLaptop> hm, Madpilot it still gives me that compile error!
[08:28] <neo911> does the name kevin roberts ring a bell to anyone? thx
[08:28] <RemyLaptop> even though it's empty 1
[08:28] <fyrebat> just type that in command line?
[08:28] <PistolPedro> neo911, no
[08:28] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, yea go to the dir the program name is in then copy that
[08:29] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, I don't know - I'm not any sort of expert on .bashrc, I've just messed with mine a bit...
[08:29] <PistolPedro> RemyLaptop, do you want a fresh bash.rc ?
[08:29] <RemyLaptop> PistolPedro, that might be good
[08:29] <fyrebat> k, so I put in my password
[08:29] <PistolPedro> RemyLaptop, okay one sec
[08:29] <fyrebat> now I just ./progname?
[08:29] <PistolPedro> yes
[08:30] <fyrebat> what was that command I just put in- what did I do exactly with"sudo chmod +x programname"
[08:30] <PistolPedro> did you substiture
[08:30] <PistolPedro> programname for the program name ..
[08:30] <RemyLaptop> fyrebat you shouldn't need the sudo for that... chmod +x makes a file executable
[08:30] <PistolPedro> substitute*
[08:30] <fyrebat> yeah
[08:30] <PistolPedro> RemyLaptop, http://pastebin.com/624508
[08:31] <fyrebat> oh
[08:31] <PistolPedro> the sudo is just so it works
[08:31] <fyrebat> I guess thats why it says cannot read binary
[08:31] <fyrebat> I"m trying to install bloodshed dev c++
[08:31] <fyrebat> u guys heard of?
[08:31] <PistolPedro> no
[08:32] <fyrebat> ah, its just a .exe setup file
[08:32] <tristanmike> like a windows .exe ?
[08:32] <RemyLaptop> PistolPedro, it still gives me that error!
[08:32] <fyrebat> not sure, I probly dled the wrong thing
[08:32] <RemyLaptop> is there anything else that could be causing it ?
[08:32] <PistolPedro> RemyLaptop, man, dunno that's weird
[08:33] <RemyLaptop> hm
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> fyrebat: Definitely.
[08:33] <RemyLaptop> what's a plain text editor in ubuntu ?
[08:33] <fyrebat> if its a linux compatible .exe, should I just be able to ./name, and have it work?
[08:33] <RemyLaptop> I've been using OO to edit the file, which might be putting wierd characters in.
[08:33] <tristanmike> RemyLaptop: gedit
[08:33] <tristanmike> RemyLaptop: or "nano" in a terminal
[08:33] <RemyLaptop> ta
[08:33] <PistolPedro> whats the best way to speed up boot in ubuntu ?
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> fyrebat: Never heard of a .exe for Linux.
[08:34] <fyrebat> heh
[08:34] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, folding @ home uses an .exe
[08:34] <Intangir> ok.. im rebooting a new kernel.. pray for me ;)
[08:34] <fyrebat> well, thanx for help all
[08:34] <PistolPedro> any of you tried leafpad ?
[08:34] <PistolPedro> !leafpad
[08:34] <ubotu> PistolPedro: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:35] <PistolPedro> !ubotu leafpad is a simple GTK+ text editor that emphasizes simplicity. As development focuses on keeping weight down to a minimum, only the most essential features are implemented in the editor. Leafpad is simple to use, is easily compiled, requires few libraries, and starts up quickly.
[08:35] <ubotu> PistolPedro: okay
[08:35] <RemyLaptop> ha !
[08:36] <RemyLaptop> there we go folks, don't use Open Office Writer to edit BashRC files...
[08:36] <PistolPedro> open office is eww
[08:36] <PistolPedro> use abiword for word processing
[08:36] <highvoltage> or any plain text files, for that matter...
[08:36] <highvoltage> koffice is also oK.
[08:36] <PistolPedro> leafpad is better then gedit also
[08:36] <gza> No liveCD install for ubuntu :(
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> gza: There is in Dapper.
[08:37] <jbritz22> whats a good app for downloading from the gnutella network for linux
[08:37] <arrick> gza: I found a link in the wiki that syay otehrwizs.
[08:37] <PistolPedro> jbritz22, frostwire
[08:37] <PistolPedro> !frostwire
[08:37] <arrick> I'm in the middle of it right now
[08:37] <arrick> hang on
[08:37] <gza> arrick: mind sharing it? :) Wiki seems to have tons of broken links
[08:37] <ian_> Madpilot: I don't have any "X"'s next to my repositories....
[08:37] <PistolPedro> !ubotu tell jbritz22 about frostwire
[08:37] <jbritz22> frostwire is too hefty...
[08:38] <PistolPedro> hefty ?
[08:38] <PistolPedro> works fine for me :-P
[08:38] <kingspwned> when i ssh into ubuntu it tells me i have mail - how do i check it?
[08:38] <PistolPedro> type mail
[08:38] <fyrebat> anyone know of a free linux C++ compiler?
[08:38] <gza> tonyyarusso: hmm I have 5.10 which is Hoary, right?
[08:38] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, gcc
[08:38] <PistolPedro> gza, breezy
[08:38] <Madpilot> fyrebat, install build-essential
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> gza: Breezy.
[08:38] <Madpilot> !tell fyrebat about b-e
[08:38] <fyrebat> google build-essential?
[08:38] <jbritz22> ok im back
[08:38] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, i tried that, dont work :)
[08:39] <jbritz22> last thing I said was frostwire was too hefty...
[08:39] <Madpilot> fyrebat, no, just see the msg the bot sent you
[08:39] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, weird ..
[08:39] <gza> they should just use numbers, names are too hard to remember ;)
[08:39] <fyrebat> ten four
[08:39] <Fracture> Hi.  Anyone know of a linux app that allows inspection and even editing of http packets ?  something like a proxy server that has a console to view traffic etc..
[08:39] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, cd /var/spool/mail
[08:39] <PistolPedro> and then cat yourusername
[08:39] <PistolPedro> like cat user
[08:39] <arrick> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/liveCDInstallHowTo?highlight=%28Copy%29%7C%28LiveCD%29%7C%28to%29%7C%28hd%29
[08:39] <Madpilot> gza, Ubuntu uses both names & numbers - Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"
[08:40] <prudhvi> How do i compile  a kernel Ubuntu Way
[08:40] <arrick> should be the link to it
[08:40] <arrick> I have it open on sanother pc
[08:40] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, ah, there it was. just cron having something to tell me. thank you :)
[08:40] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, :-)
[08:40] <Madpilot> ian_, look for the Universe & Multiverse stuff in that Synaptic setup screen
[08:40] <fyrebat> what does "sudo" comand do exactly?
[08:40] <PistolPedro> !sudo
[08:40] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:41] <johanbr> Fracture: Not sure exactly what you want to do, but ethereal might fit your needs.
[08:41] <gza> arrick: thanks
[08:41] <fyrebat> k
[08:41] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, any idea what package might contain "mail"?
[08:41] <arrick> yep
[08:41] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, uhh.....
[08:41] <sethrd> So, I installed the artwiz fonts through Synaptic, but the fonts aren't in any font lists. I've restarted X, I've rebooted, I've logged out, but the fonts "aren't there". Anyone know how I can fix this?
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> kingspwned: mail
[08:41] <prudhvi> !kernel
[08:41] <kingspwned> tonyyarusso, tried that already :)
[08:41] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, yea it's a program... mail
[08:42] <Fracture> johanbr: I used to use Fiddler on windows.  it can be setup as a proxy server, and can interrupt http requests, allowing you to edit them, then submit them to the target. then even interrupt the response and edit it before sending back to the client./
[08:42] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, try mailx
[08:42] <ian_> Madpilot: Not seeing anything of the sort.  You refering to the settings screen or the main SPM screen?
[08:42] <Madpilot> ian_, the settings/repos screen
[08:42] <Ikoniak> How do I find out my kernal version??
[08:42] <sethrd> Ikoniak: uname -a
[08:42] <Fracture> johanbr: a bit like mozilla http live headers, except in an external app, which can be used say for mac clients etc..
[08:42] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, right on! thanks
[08:43] <Ikoniak> thank you
[08:43] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, yep :-)
[08:43] <sethrd> So, I installed the artwiz fonts through Synaptic, but the fonts aren't in any font lists. I've restarted X, I've rebooted, I've logged out, but the fonts "aren't there". Anyone know how I can fix this?
[08:43] <neo911> eh anyone know how to create an alias in a terminal so when i have to cd to a very long path it's easier? thanks!
[08:43] <ian_> Madpilot: I see Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" (Binary)    Community Maintained (Universe).
[08:44] <sethrd> neo911: Use tab.
[08:44] <ian_> Madpilot: That's the closest I can find.
[08:44] <Madpilot> ian_, that's the one ou want
[08:44] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, then I....?
[08:44] <fyrebat> after I install build-essential, how do I access it?
[08:44] <Madpilot> ian_, then you hit OK and then hit the Reload button in Synaptic
[08:45] <johanbr> Fracture: You can inspect packets with ethereal, but I don't think it'll let you edit them like that. Some combination of iptables, ethereal and netcat will probably let you do what you want but that would require being quite familiar with linux. I'm not aware of a single app that'd fit your description.
[08:45] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, are you trying to compile a program from source?
[08:45] <fyrebat> no, just for a c++ class
[08:45] <fyrebat> wanna write c++ code
[08:45] <sethrd> Fracture: What are you looking for?
[08:45] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, well if you wanna write c++ code you could use bluefish
[08:45] <ian_> Madpilot: It still doesn't give me an X to mark.
[08:46] <fyrebat> alrite, just type "sudo apt-get install bluefish" ?
[08:46] <neo911> sethrd, yes i use that all the time but i think there's a better option to have sort of a "link" to frequently used paths?
[08:46] <sethrd> Yes.
[08:46] <ian_> Madpilot: When I click on the Boson file (any of them) it states: Depends: boson-base but it is not going to be installed
[08:46] <neo911> which is how? :-)
[08:46] <Unimatrix9> hello there
[08:47] <sethrd> neo911: Make a system link. ln -s <destination> <link name>
[08:47] <sethrd> neo911: Like, for example....
[08:47] <Otaku> is it possible to situate the server and channel list in xchat on the left? it's bad at the bottom because i am on quite many channels and i don't want to leave them :)
[08:47] <ian_> Madpilot: And a few others in the list with same general error...
[08:47] <Madpilot> ian_, hmm... let's fix your repos another way, then go from there
[08:47] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok.
[08:47] <sethrd> ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.16.1234.blah /usr/src/linux
[08:47] <Madpilot> ian_, close Synaptic, open a terminal (apps->accessories->Terminal)
[08:47] <Unimatrix9> if i setup an folder to share, with smb, it asks for an pass word , when trying to acces it ?
[08:48] <PistolPedro> Otaku, view>layout>tree
[08:48] <Unimatrix9> whats the passwd for the live cd ubuntu 5.10?
[08:48] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, done.
[08:48] <Unimatrix9> on accessing smb shares
[08:48] <Unimatrix9> ?
[08:48] <Fracture> sethrd: something like this for linux : http://www.fiddlertool.com/fiddler/
[08:48] <Madpilot> ian_, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:48] <Madpilot> ian_, without the quotes
[08:48] <Otaku> ah thank you very much PistolPedro  :)
[08:48] <neo911> sethrd, with your example the next time i access the first param, i just use the second param which is /usr/src/linux?
[08:48] <PistolPedro> Otaku, no problem sir.
[08:49] <sethrd> neo911: Yes, exactly.
[08:49] <DarkMageZ> Unimatrix9: i don't believe there is one, pastebin your /etc/samba/cmb.conf
[08:49] <DarkMageZ> Unimatrix9: /etc/samba/smb.conf*
[08:49] <sethrd> Fracture: Ya know what, I think there is something out there called poison, or something along those lines..
[08:49] <ian_> Madpilot: Prompts for my PW, I typed it, then window pops with text....
[08:49] <Madpilot> ian_, after gedit opens, paste the contents of this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 into your sources.list file
[08:49] <neo911> sethrd, so the 2nd param you couldve just as easily used "mylinux" or any other shorter alternative?
[08:49] <sethrd> Fracture: I'm not positive. Look on Sourceforge.
[08:50] <Fracture> sethrd: thans
[08:50] <Fracture> sethrd: thanks
[08:50] <ian_> Madpilot: At bottom?
[08:50] <sethrd> neo911: Well, you could put it at /home/user/mylinux.
[08:50] <Madpilot> ian_, no, delete everything in there right now, and replace with the sources.list on that URL
[08:50] <sethrd> neo911: Or if you sudo it, which I believe you have to, you could put it at /mylinux.
[08:51] <Madpilot> ian_, just the stuff in the tan box on that URL, obviously
[08:51] <neo911> sethrd, cool, it already worked
[08:51] <ian_> Madpilot, ok, gimme one sec plz.
[08:51] <PistolPedro> hm
[08:52] <ian_> Sans the 002, 003, 004?
[08:52] <ian_> Madpilot: Sans the 002, 003, 004 stuff?
[08:52] <Madpilot> ian_, yeah, sorry. Don't copy the line numbers over
[08:53] <ian_> Madpilot: I figured. :) Ok, Got it pasted...
[08:53] <DarkMageZ> Unimatrix9: if u want an example of a smb.conf which tells samba to share a folder with no passwords at all then http://pastebin.com/624533
[08:53] <Madpilot> ian_, save it, close gedit, and re-open Synaptic
[08:53] <dli> what is /bin/pidof?
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> a program
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> tells you the PID of a pice of (running) software
[08:54] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, can you "ls -l /bin/pidof" for me? it's strange here
[08:54] <ian_> Madpilot: Here's what SPM error prompt says:
[08:55] <ian_> Madpilot: E: Type '017' is not known on line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:55] <ian_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[08:55] <ian_> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[08:55] <arrick> hey guys, I can access my print setup through localhost:631, but cant acces the server from other pcs, Help me please?
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: it's a symlink
[08:55] <Madpilot> ian_, did you leave a line # from the pastebin in there by mistake?
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> arrick: in /usr/share/doc/cups in the readme it tells how to fix that
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> IIRC
[08:55] <arrick> ok
[08:55] <ian_> Madpilot: I'll check.
[08:55] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, to where? I got it linked to killall5 , sending a singnal to all process
[08:56] <neo911_> test
[08:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> mine links to killall5
[08:56] <Madpilot> ian_, redo that 'sudo gedit..." line in terminal to edit again
[08:56] <sethrd> Where are kernel modules stored?
[08:56] <Madpilot> neo911, ?
[08:57] <sethrd> /lib/modules/
[08:57] <sethrd> Nevermind.
[08:57] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, that's why I'm asking here :(
[08:58] <neo911> Madpilot, why?
[08:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: good point, but it's running as i would expect here  - kgoetz@Evangelion:~$ pidof  Gnome-terminal
[08:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> 6904
[08:59] <Madpilot> neo911, why what? I was just responding to your "test" thing
[08:59] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, can you "which pidof"?
[08:59] <ian_> Madpilot: Figured that too.  I did, indeed leave a few line numbers.  Most of the way down the page.  Missed em.  Redid what you said before....
[08:59] <Madpilot> ian_, OK - and?
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser>  which pidof
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> /bin/pidof
[08:59] <PistolPedro> how do i create a new user for samba on breezy?
[09:00] <dle> Hi again.  For reasons unknown, my gnome has gone bizarre.  All of the mimetypes-apps associations have been forgotten; if I use an app's help, yelp will start, but the docbook file will open in vim.  Who knows what else as happened.  Has anyone experienced this?
[09:00] <ian_> Madpilot: It loaded some repos this time (unlike last) but still gave error.
[09:00] <ian_> Madpilot: Error is too long to type here without spamming.
[09:00] <arrick> you mean usr/share/doc/cupsys?
[09:00] <arrick> there is no cups
[09:00] <sethrd> So, I installed the artwiz fonts through Synaptic, but the fonts aren't in any font lists. I've restarted X, I've rebooted, I've logged out, but the fonts "aren't there". Anyone know how I can fix this?
[09:00] <ian_> <chain smokes some more>
[09:00] <Madpilot> ian_, put it up at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  - and put your sources.list up there too
[09:01] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, I got "nothing" with "which pidof" :( very puzzling, I already did "apt-get --reinstall install sysvinit", still couldn't do "which pidof"
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. wierd
[09:01] <ian_> Madpilot: By using terminal to open gedit again?
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: I'm running as the first user
[09:01] <sethrd> Anyone at all know how to refresh my font cache?
[09:01] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, it's a ubuntu way :(
[09:02] <Madpilot> ian_, yes, to get at your sources.list again
[09:02] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks anyway, got to figure out why
[09:02] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, one sec.  Forgive my slowness.
[09:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: gl
[09:03] <timephoenix> room, need your help. Just received the Ubuntu CD the other day, impressed. However, I want to know what kind of music composition (ie Sibelius), recording, image editing and video editing software is available. Am I in the right place?
[09:03] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, error msg is there, one sec while I get my souces.list.
[09:04] <johanbr> sethrd: Try modifying your xorg.conf - add a line like FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" and see if that helps. Looks like that package hasn't been converted over to using /usr/share/X11/fonts .
[09:04] <neo911> Madpilot, what test?
[09:04] <Madpilot> ian_, when you've got it, paste the URL to your pastebin here
[09:04] <murac|> i tryed to install vmware 5.0 to kubuntu 5.1, everything gone fine untill: (vmware:28722): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[09:04] <murac|> when i triend to start vmware..
[09:04] <sethrd> johanbr: Thank you very much kind sir. Is there anyway I can kind out where the fonts where installed to? I don't know off the top of my head. Will synaptics tell me?
[09:05] <johanbr> sethrd: I don't think synaptics can do it. If you type "dpkg -L packagename |more" in a terminal, that'll list all files belong to a specific package.
[09:05] <Madpilot> !+fonts
[09:05] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[09:05] <sethrd> johanbr: Thank you sir.
[09:06] <sethrd> Wow, slow as hell screen redrawing for some reason.
[09:06] <neo911> how do i change the screen resolution in ubuntu? thx
[09:07] <ian_> Madpilot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10899  and   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10898
[09:07] <Ikoniak> how do I know what kernal I am using
[09:07] <Ikoniak> I forgot the command
[09:07] <sethrd> neo911: Go into System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution if you are using GNOME.
[09:07] <Ikoniak> Im sorry :(
[09:07] <sethrd> Ikoniak: uname -a
[09:07] <Ikoniak> hey thanks again!
[09:07] <vaxx> hello room
[09:08] <sethrd> johanbr: What was that command you said?
[09:08] <ian_> vaxx: Hello Vaxx.
[09:08] <Madpilot> ian_, looking, just a mo
[09:08] <vaxx> ian_: hey :)
[09:08] <ian_> Madpilot: <nodnods/chainsmokes some more...>
[09:08] <ian_> vaxx: I love this place. ;D
[09:08] <sethrd> johanbr: Nevermind. I got it.
[09:09] <Mythril> Out of the blue I can't access the net on one of my Ubuntu PCs, where do I start trouble shooting?
[09:09] <vaxx> ian_: yeah, I love too ubuntu, it rocks!
[09:09] <ian_> vaxx: Do I show red when I type to you?
[09:09] <Fracture> sethrd: I found this which does the trick : http://www.owasp.org/software/webscarab.html
[09:09] <johanbr> sethrd: You're quite welcome. If you want to test if the font path change helps without logging out, you can do "xset +fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc", followed by "xset fp rehash". If you can then see your new fonts, you can add '  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"   ' to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and that change will be permanent.
[09:09] <vaxx> ian_: yes because it adverst the nick
[09:10] <ian_> vaxx: Just making certain.  New to Linux, Ubuntu and IRC.  :) <is general n00b tonight>
[09:10] <vaxx> ian_: if I dont write your nick, u dont showing the red :)
[09:10] <vaxx> oh me too heh
[09:10] <sethrd> johanbr: Yeah, I just added the path to my xorg.conf. The fonts where installed under /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc or something like that, and that wasn't a FontPath in my xorg.conf, so I added it.
[09:11] <ian_> vaxx: <nond> S'what I figured from what was 'splained to me.
[09:11] <Madpilot> ian_, I really can't figure out why that sources.list is giving you errors like that - nothing wrong with it AFAIK
[09:11] <sethrd> johanbr: Actually, it was that exact path you said.
[09:11] <foureight84> what's the channel for dapper support?
[09:11] <volcom_b0i> ubuntu+1
[09:11] <arrick>  #ubuntu+1
[09:11] <foureight84> thank you!
[09:11] <ian_> madpilot: Hmm, wish I'd saved my previous list then. It was more comprehensive than the one I pasted/saved...
[09:12] <volcom_b0i> I think everyone should log onto ATI's website and submit a tech support ticket about their poo drivers :)
[09:12] <arrick> hoa about doing the same for lexmark?
[09:12] <arrick> night all
[09:13] <Madpilot> ian_, here's my own sources.list - slightly different layout, but I **know** it works: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10900
[09:13] <sethrd> johanbr: I spoke too soon. On running xset +fp <dir> it tells me http://pastebin.com/624559
[09:14] <prudhvi> How do i make a curses based config file for Kernel Compilation ?
[09:14] <foureight84> i have a question
[09:14] <foureight84> i'm trying to get some codecs
[09:14] <foureight84> i followed the wiki guide
[09:14] <PistolPedro> hmm i can't get samba to work...
[09:14] <foureight84> and some of the files can't be downloaded from the universe and multiverse repository i have
[09:14] <ian_> madpilot: Ok, one sec...
[09:14] <foureight84> is there a list of multiverse and universe url's
[09:15] <Madpilot> foureight84, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:15] <foureight84> dapper
[09:15] <foureight84> everyone is dead in the other channel
[09:15] <foureight84> lol
[09:15] <Madpilot> foureight84, basic Dapper sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[09:16] <foureight84> thanks
[09:16] <johanbr> sethrd: Hmm, maybe your package version is different from mine. Try "dpkg -L xfonts-artwiz |more" to see where the fonts are located, should be something like "/usr/blah/blah/misc". Then use that directory with the xset line.
[09:16] <neo911> who is Funtklakow?
[09:16] <PistolPedro> Madpilot, could you help me get samba working?
[09:16] <Mythril> My eth0 device had always worked in the past, for some reason it has failed to come up on the last 3 reboots, and I don't know how to tinker with it, any pointers?
[09:16] <PistolPedro> Madpilot, i follwed the guide but no luck.
[09:16] <Madpilot> PistolPedro, probably not, I've never used samba
[09:16] <PistolPedro> Madpilot, okay thanks
[09:17] <ian_> madpilot: Similar message.  Similarly long. ;(
[09:17] <sethrd> johanbr: Yeah, restarting X didn't help either.
[09:17] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, there is a nice guide to samba on debian.org - might be helpful. i cant help, since i've never used samba, but ive read a bit about it.. :)
[09:17] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, okay, thanks
[09:17] <Madpilot> ian_, damned odd... close Synaptic again, and in the terminal, type "sudo apt-get update" - see what that does
[09:17] <kingspwned> worth a shot, anyway
[09:18] <ian_> Madpilot: Are the #signs supposed to be removed?  I left them there....
[09:18] <abisen> is there a source that i can add to install java 1.5
[09:18] <abisen> ?
[09:18] <Madpilot> ian_, the # things just comment stuff out
[09:18] <Madpilot> !tell abisen about java
[09:18] <sethrd> abisen: Get automatix
[09:18] <Madpilot> no, don't
[09:18] <ian_> Madpilot: So I can leave 'em then. <?>
[09:18] <Madpilot> !automatix
[09:18] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[09:19] <abisen> what is automatix
[09:19] <Madpilot> ian_, yes
[09:19] <foureight84> when add the url to the source list, is it "deb http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666"?
[09:19] <sethrd> Hmmmm.
[09:19] <abisen> i dont want automatix i like the simplicity of ubuntu i would stick to the norms
[09:20] <DarthLappy> What's wrong with "echo -e 'y/nY/n'"?
[09:20] <Madpilot> foureight84, no - put that URL into a browser and copy the sample sources.list from that webpage
[09:20] <ian_> Madpilot: Terminal states "E: Invalid operation updatesude-"
[09:20] <foureight84> thanks
[09:21] <ian_> madpilot: oops, one sec
[09:21] <Madpilot> ian_, hmm - type exactly "sudo apt-get update"
[09:21] <sethrd> abisen: Automatix is simple.
[09:21] <Madpilot> abisen, see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:21] <johanbr> sethrd: There's something weird about the artwiz package. I'll go off and mess with it for a few minutes, let you know if I find anything.
[09:21] <ian_> madpilot: Yeah, I caught that.  It's...working I think...
[09:21] <sethrd> johanbr: Thank you.
[09:22] <Madpilot> DarthLappy, "echo -e 'y/nY/n'" just answers "yes" to all config questions, without giving the user a chance to even see them
[09:22] <DarthLappy> Madpilot, Ah, how...Clever...:P
[09:22] <ian_> madpilot: looks like showing repos....
[09:23] <Madpilot> ian_, error msgs or stuff about checking repos
[09:23] <Madpilot> ?
[09:23] <ian_> madpilot: The latter. ;)
[09:23] <Mythril> Anyone willing to help me with my network problems?
[09:23] <htrp> is there any web-based administration tools for apache?
[09:23] <htrp> like how to add hostname, etc
[09:24] <ian_> madpilot: Thankfully.  It says it's done checking them.  Fetched many urls.
[09:24] <carthik> htrp, well, if apache isn't working, you'll have no webservices, hence the apache configuration has to be edited on the terminal :)
[09:24] <m0s^> is there a way to change properties for my Wlan network card ? i think it's in "power save mode" and i only download in 10kb/s :/
[09:24] <carthik> Mythril, ask
[09:24] <Madpilot> ian_, cool - now restart Synaptic and try that install again
[09:24] <ian_> madpilot: Start SMP or gedit?
[09:24] <htrp> ic
[09:25] <ian_> madpilot: rgr.
[09:25] <Mythril> carthik: where do I look to find out why my eth0 device hasn't loaded the last 3 reboots?
[09:25] <Mythril> carthik: furthermore how do I load it manually
[09:26] <m0s^> is there a way to change properties for my Wlan network card ? i think it's in "power save mode" and i only download in 10kb/s :/
[09:26] <nekostar> eh
[09:26] <carthik> Mythril, you can look in the file /etc/network/interfaces -- then you will know if it is scheduled for automatic (there will be a line "auto eth0") loading on reboots
[09:26] <ian_> madpilot: Whatever that did, it did well!  VERY comprehensive list of Repos.
[09:26] <P3L|C4N0> Mythril,  add a line in interfaces file,  auto eth0
[09:26] <nekostar> whats the smallest office type suite
[09:26] <carthik> Mythril, to bring it up or down, use $sudo ifup eth0 and $sudo ifdown eth0
[09:26] <mockme> hi guys
[09:26] <ian_> madpilot: Retry getting my app?
[09:26] <Madpilot> ian_, good - not sure why the first attempt didn't work, though
[09:26] <Madpilot> ian_, yes
[09:26] <carthik> Mythril, you might want to check /etc/network/interfaces to see what it is set up for
[09:27] <foureight84> thank you Madpilot! i found the files i needed
[09:27] <mockme> can anyone help me how can i transfer folder using sftp?
[09:27] <m0s^> is there a way to change properties for my Wlan network card ? i think it's in "power save mode" and i only download in 10kb/s :/
[09:27] <carthik> Mythril, or, if you use gnome, use System->Adminstration->Networking which is graphical and maybe easier to handle
[09:27] <ian_> madpilot: <shrugs> I don't know enough to make a conjecture.  I'm simply pleased it seemed to do whatever you wanted me to tell it....ahh screw it. I got lost...
[09:27] <Mythril> carthik: I have "auto eth0" as the last line in my interfaces file, so I doubt that is my issue
[09:27] <Madpilot> ian_, heh. Aren't computers fun? :P
[09:27] <m0s^> is there a way to change properties for my Wlan network card ? i think it's in "power save mode" and i only download in 10kb/s :/
[09:27] <carthik> Mythril, okay
[09:28] <carthik> Mythril, try looking at how it is configured to work, maybe it is not set up right, or there is something else that is the problem witht he network
[09:28] <ian_> Madpilot: Still getting error prompt when clicking on the app I want tho.
[09:28] <carthik> m0s^, it isn't nice to repeat questions too often, if someone here knew, they'd be helping you.
[09:28] <nekostar> anyone?
[09:28] <P3L|C4N0> m0s^,  wireless-rate
[09:28] <Madpilot> ian_, which one is it again?
[09:28] <ian_> madpilot: Unistallable or won't be installed...
[09:29] <nekostar> is there another option besides abiword suite and openoffice >?
[09:29] <m0s^> carthik i know, sry, but im just so frustrated :(
[09:29] <pjv>  i need to open a pdf file, but i want to use "wine C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Acrobat\Acrobat.exe " but that command doesn't allow it, is there another way to make Acrobat open pdf files in gnome?
[09:29] <PistolPedro> pjv, why use adobe, use evince ... no need for wine
[09:29] <Madpilot> pjv, there's a Linux-native version of acrobat Reader
[09:29] <PistolPedro> sudo apt-get install evince
[09:29] <samu2> Are there any postscript experts here?
[09:29] <carthik> m0s^, well, you can look up the details of /etc/network/interfaces, search on google etc ...
[09:29] <P3L|C4N0> m0s^, copy and paste /etc/network/interfaces
[09:30] <ian_> Madpilot: Under the heading of: The following packages have unresolved dependencies.  Make sure that all required repos are added and enable in the prefs.
[09:30] <pjv> maddler: i need the writer
[09:30] <pjv> errr
[09:30] <Madpilot> ian_, yes, but what's the name of the app you want?
[09:30] <pjv> Madpilot: i need the writer
[09:31] <Madpilot> pjv, ah. Nevermind, then
[09:31] <pjv> PistolPedro: evince, is that a writer aswell?
[09:31] <ian_> Madpilot: Boson (Command and Conquer style wargame)
[09:31] <PistolPedro> pjv, i don't know .
[09:31] <ian_> Madpilot: This is just the first of many apps tho.
[09:32] <pjv> ohh ok no worries
[09:32] <Madpilot> ian_, I get the same set of errors with boson
[09:32] <AlphaFaction> Hi guys, just wondering if somone could help? I was copying files to my mp3 player the other day in ubuntu and for some reason they did not copy properly and only half showed up on the mp3 player, now when i try and boot the computer it tells me that their is an error as i am out of space and is unable to launch gnome, any ideas?
[09:32] <Madpilot> pjv, for PDF creation in Linux, try Scribus
[09:32] <ian_> Madpilot: Hrmmmm.....
[09:33] <pulver> anyone know an app for generating a website? lets say by writing some text, attaching some images and/or some files. no wysiwyg, no blog, client side, simple gui tool yea thats about it :) any ideas?
[09:34] <pjv> maddler: i tried it, my pdf have graphical logos, and they just don't show nicely, as in you can see them, they are all shadowed
[09:34] <Madpilot> ian_, it looks like that whole set of boson packages are FUBAR'd
[09:35] <kingspwned> pulver, i suggest vi :)
[09:35] <pjv> damn auto nick completion
[09:35] <Madpilot> ian_, and there aren't any boson bugs filed at Ubuntu's bugtracker
[09:35] <fluxt> afternoon
[09:35] <pjv> Madpilot: i mean :)
[09:35] <Mythril> how to I request a new IP address from my router?
[09:35] <kingspwned> fluxt, morning is more like it ;)
[09:36] <kingspwned> Mythril, dhclient eth0, maybe?
[09:36] <Naota> I need help, whenever I try loading ubuntu (5.10) my computer always hangs on loading the hotplug subsystem
[09:36] <Naota> any ideas?
[09:36] <carthik> Mythril, with dhcp, that happens automatically each time you ifdown and ifup
[09:36] <pulver> kingspwned: ok :) i could do the html in vi, but want to give the tool to a computer illiterate person
[09:36] <ian_> Madpilot: In essence: Give up on this package.  Yeah?
[09:37] <Madpilot> ian_, looks like it, yeah
[09:37] <Madpilot> ian_, you could file a bug about it here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[09:38] <Mythril> carthik: ok, I still have no idea what is going on, ifup says eth0 is configured, but I still do not have access
[09:39] <pulver> made a script but the cli scared the crap out of the user
[09:39] <ian_> Madpilot: Umm, not registered and not sure what format to write it in...
[09:39] <carthik> Mythril, okay, so does your router use dhcp for the clients?
[09:39] <Madpilot> ian_, English :P
[09:40] <carthik> Mythril, once (no kidding) I hadn't paid my bill and that is why the damn thing wasn't working!!!
[09:40] <PistolPedro> carthik, happend to me once too
[09:40] <Madpilot> ian_, and registry on LP is fairly straightforward
[09:40] <Mythril> carthik: yeah, it does
[09:40] <ian_> Madpilot: You remind me of my Father.  (That's a mighty compliment in my book, FYI)
[09:40] <carthik> PistolPedro, and it took me a hell of a lot of time to "discover" that :)
[09:40] <Mythril> carthik: if I weren't paid up I wouldn't be in this channel :)
[09:40] <Madpilot> ian_, yikes!
[09:41] <Mythril> carthik: real strange thing is that it work just a day or so ago
[09:41] <ian_> Madpilot: <laughs> Similar responses as him.  Esp when I'm being stupid. ;)
[09:41] <Mythril> only thing that has changed recently is that I have replaced my wireless to ethernet bridge
[09:41] <ian_> madpilot: It's a good thing.
[09:41] <johanbr> sethrd: Alright, I got my X server to recognize the artwiz fonts. I put a script to do what I did at http://nullinfinity.org/fontscript . You can download that, and then do "sudo bash /path/to/fontscript" and hopefully that'll get the fonts working for you too. The script is probably not optimal, but at least it shouldn't do any damage. The worst thing that can happen is that you'll end up with extra some symbolic links in a font directory.
[09:41] <Naota> does anyone hvae any ideas on fixing my hotplug thing?
[09:41] <Madpilot> ian_, OK, I believe you (I think...)
[09:41] <carthik> Mythril, right, alright, so to get back to the topic o discussion... Hmm, okay, so is "iface eth0 inet dhcp " in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[09:42] <ian_> madpilot: ;)
[09:42] <carthik> Mythril, whoa, so why the bridge?
[09:42] <Mythril> carthik: yes it is
[09:42] <carthik> Mythril, have you yet tried power-cycling the router?
[09:43] <Mythril> carthik: no I haven't, worth a shot
[09:43] <carthik> Mythril, you can try debugging from the other end, ie, you can open up the web-admin interface for the rotuer and see if the logs show the requests for IP leases from this particular computer
[09:43] <ian_> Madpilot: Holy Crap!!! I just saw what time it is...I think I lost an hour somewhere!  I gotta go to sleep!  Work in the morning <shudders at mornings>
[09:43] <Mythril> carthik: Might dissappear for a moment
[09:43] <ian_> Madpilot: Again, thanks for the help.
[09:43] <carthik> Mythril, i'll be around
[09:44] <Madpilot> ian_, no problem, and good luck w/ Ubuntu!
[09:44] <ian_> Madpilot: I already am...BTW, if you live in/near oregon (look up freegeek on gmail)
[09:44] <sethrd> johanbr: I see you put the rehash in the script. That means I don't have to restart X, correct? I just ran it after looking over the code, and it looks good from here (not really a coder), but the font's still aren't there.
[09:44] <Madpilot> ian_, I'm north of you, across the border in BC
[09:45] <Devin_> hi
[09:45] <Madpilot> ian_, you involved in the Portland Freegeek stuff?
[09:45] <johanbr> sethrd: That's correct. Does "xlsfonts |grep artwiz" print anything?
[09:45] <ian_> madpilot: Yikes! Lucky you...No W to worry about./
[09:45] <sethrd> johanbr: Yeah, quite a bit of stuff.
[09:45] <Madpilot> ian_, yup - but we really should move the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <ian_> madpilot: Would but bed.  You have an IM I can send my Email addy to?
[09:46] <Devin_> i upgraded from breezy to dapper a few weeks ago (Flight 4 + or - ), and Applications, System, etc... menu dissapeared from the panel. Now i'm suffering this error: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/36600, so I have losts my menus, and i can add nothing to the panel. Any ideas on how to revocer "the lost menus"?  Thnx in advance
[09:46] <TSCHAK> does anyone have an example of the 320x200 etc doublescan modelines?
[09:47] <ian_> madpilot: How to send private messages here?
[09:47] <Madpilot> ian_, /msg Madpilot <your message>
[09:48] <Madpilot> Devin_, #ubuntu+1 for Dapper issus
[09:48] <TSCHAK> anyone?
[09:48] <Madpilot> *issues, even
[09:48] <johanbr> sethrd: Okay, that means that the X server sees the fonts, which is good. Now what remains is to get gnome to see them too. I'll disappear for a few minutes again...
[09:48] <Devin_> sorry and thnx
[09:49] <ian_> Madpilot: Good night and thanks again.
[09:49] <Madpilot> ian_, no problem - didn't get your /msg, though - did you try it?
[09:49] <ian_> General: Goodnight all.  And good luck with your probs.
[09:49] <ian_> madpilot: I did.
[09:50] <Madpilot> ian_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Madpilot <-- my userpage on the wiki, w/ email addy
[09:50] <ian_> madpilot: Was just sending email and IM info cuz I'm not certain how safe it would be to post it in here.
[09:51] <Madpilot> ian_, you registered here on Freenode? you can't send pm's w/o registering
[09:52] <ian_> madpilot: Nope, not yet.
[09:52] <PistolPedro> how do i get a wiki page :-P
[09:52] <PistolPedro> i help here 24//7 :-P
[09:52] <ian_> Madpilot: I'll send you an email.
[09:52] <ian_> Madpilot: Really gotta leave now tho.  Goodnight.
[09:52] <Madpilot> PistolPedro, just start editing the wiki - your username is your wiki page
[09:52] <PistolPedro> i see
[09:55] <wulax> when I try to boot my custom kernel it hangs at the line "pnp: PnP ACPI init". any ideas on what is wrong?
[09:56] <Naota> any ideas on why it hangs on my hotplug subsystem loading?
[09:56] <wulax> no, sorry...
[09:56] <maruchan> quick question on a program. what prgoam can make mea  cue bin iso
[09:56] <kingspwned> wulax, try booting with the acpi=off
[09:56] <kingspwned> maruchan, dd
[09:56] <wulax> ah, good idea, thanks kingspwned
[09:56] <maruchan> dd? is that  program
[09:57] <kingspwned> no cue, tho
[09:57] <kingspwned> maruchan, man dd
[09:57] <kingspwned> maruchan, something along the lines of dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/yo/file.iso
[09:57] <kingspwned> just reads the whole system into a file
[09:57] <kingspwned> you can use it on anything, but be sure to get if (in file) and of (out file) correct
[09:57] <BlueHeron> don't need cue's for .iso
[09:57] <kingspwned> this baby will nullify just about anything if you go wrong
[09:58] <maruchan> okay thx
[09:58] <kingspwned> maruchan, but k3b will probably have that feature, and it will be a little safer :)
[09:58] <BlueHeron> k3b can burn .iso's and .bin/cue i don't think it makes them though
[09:59] <kingspwned> hm, okay
[09:59] <kingspwned> weird
[09:59] <BlueHeron> < PistolPedro
[09:59] <BlueHeron> i finally settled on a nick
[09:59] <StarQuake> cp /dev/cdrom file.iso
[09:59] <StarQuake> :P
[09:59] <gnu_style> use NERO
[09:59] <StarQuake> but i guess dd has buffering
[10:00] <YukiCuss> StarQuake, that wouldn't work.
[10:00] <YukiCuss> It would just copy the device file, if I think correctly.
[10:00] <YukiCuss> You'd want cat /dev/cdrom > file.iso.
[10:00] <StarQuake> it does work i assure you
[10:00] <YukiCuss> Hmm.
[10:01] <TorChile> do any of you use other distros
[10:01] <TorChile> ??
[10:01] <YukiCuss> StarQuake, what the heck, why was I thinking of making a link .. (don't mind me :))
[10:01] <StarQuake> TorChile, yes, Fedora Core, CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux
[10:01] <TorChile> anyone used Arch here
[10:02] <sethrd> Wow, don't know what the hell that was all about...
[10:02] <BlueHeron> user@System:~/Desktop$ cp /media/cdrom0 tool.iso
[10:02] <BlueHeron> cp: omitting directory `/media/cdrom0'
[10:02] <BlueHeron> doesn't work friend.
[10:02] <BlueHeron> makes plain text document of 0 bytes
[10:02] <BlueHeron> :-P
[10:02] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, wrong file.
[10:02] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, you want /dev/cdrom
[10:03] <sethrd> You can't just do it that can.
[10:03] <sethrd> That way rather.
[10:03] <YukiCuss> sethrd, you can.
[10:03] <YukiCuss> I made two ISOs the other day to take to my friend, except I used cat; the method is the same, however.
[10:03] <sethrd> YukiCuss: If he is trying to make an exact copy of the CD, no.
[10:03] <BlueHeron> ahh. it does work now.
[10:03] <BlueHeron> thanks
[10:03] <BlueHeron> i learned a thing.
[10:03] <YukiCuss> sethrd, how so?
[10:03] <ian_> madpilot:  Bloody hell...Could you resend me that string that updated my repos lit?
[10:03] <ian_> madpilot: *list even?
[10:04] <Madpilot> ian_, sure - just a sec
[10:04] <Mythril> carthik: lspci doesn't list my ethernet device, does this mean anything?
[10:04] <sethrd> YukiCuss: I was always under the impression that cp <device> just copied all the files off the disk, not copied the disk.
[10:04] <ian_> madpilot: My roomy needs it. :)
[10:04] <BlueHeron> user@System:~/Desktop$ cp /dev/cdrom tool.iso
[10:04] <BlueHeron> cp: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
[10:04] <BlueHeron> whats that caused by ?
[10:04] <Madpilot> ian_, do you just mean "sudo apt-get update" - or the whole thing, including the working sources.list pastebin?
[10:04] <YukiCuss> sethrd, not at all. cp has no knowledge of the disk structure.
[10:04] <BlueHeron> it got to 200 mb
[10:05] <carthik> Mythril, well, if it does not, what has been up-ing and down-ing all this while
[10:05] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, check dmesg|tail
[10:05] <carthik> Mythril, maybe the card has come loose
[10:05] <sethrd> YukiCuss: Exactly, it doesn't know the disk structure, which is why you shouldn't use it to make an ISO.
[10:05] <ian_> madpilot: Nope, that's the string...
[10:05] <BlueHeron> YukiCuss, oh it's just the end of the files .. wonder why it exits in an error :-P
[10:05] <ian_> Madpilot:L Thx again.
[10:05] <Madpilot> ian_, np
[10:05] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, I'd advise using cat, personally.
[10:05] <Mythril> carthik: its built into the motherboard
[10:05] <BlueHeron> YukiCuss, how does cat work?
[10:05] <sethrd> BlueHeron: man cat
[10:05] <YukiCuss> sethrd, nonsense; all an ISO is *is* disk structure.
[10:05] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, cat /dev/cdrom > someiso
[10:05] <BlueHeron> YukiCuss, thanks
[10:05] <Mythril> carthik: does that mean I need to load drivers?
[10:06] <johanbr> sethrd: I think I have the final piece of the puzzle. Do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" and then answer yes to the question about bitmapped fonts.
[10:06] <Mythril> carthik: or that for some reason it no longer recognizes my ethernet card?
[10:06] <carthik> Mythril, but there should be an "Ethernet Controller" somewhere in there in lspci
[10:06] <sethrd> johanbr: Thanks mate. I'll get back to ya.
[10:06] <BlueHeron> YukiCuss, looks the same to me :-P
[10:06] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, shouldn't end in an I/O error, though!
[10:06] <BlueHeron> YukiCuss, let's see :-)
[10:07] <Mythril> carthik: your right, I just overlooked it
[10:07] <BlueHeron> YukiCuss, ended in an I/O error also :-)
[10:07] <sethrd> YukiCuss: I apologize then. I always used dd.
[10:07] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, odd! It should work, then.
[10:08] <BlueHeron> YukiCuss, it makes the file that's all i care about
[10:08] <YukiCuss> sethrd, similarly to cat and cp, dd also has no knowledge. They're all just different ways of doing the same things.
[10:08] <YukiCuss> Except dd has far greater capability.
[10:08] <sethrd> johanbr: That was it. Thanks again mate.
[10:08] <sethrd> YukiCuss: I see.
[10:09] <sarek> hi
[10:09] <johanbr> sethrd: You're welcome. Glad I could help.
[10:10] <sethrd> I shall return.
[10:10] <Mythril> carthik: I'm going to work on it tomorrow, thanks for your help
[10:10] <YukiCuss> sethrd, that was quick. :)
[10:10] <sarek> is there a way to have the user's keyring automatically unlocked when the user logs in to gnome? I just found a package called pam_keyring which seems to do this but it is not in ubuntu afaik.
[10:10] <sethrd> Ok, using the "nu" font, not advisable for irssi.
[10:11] <BlueHeron> what is afaik i keep seeing that
[10:11] <jellyware> hey guys!
[10:11] <jellyware> back!
[10:11] <BlueHeron> ahh, as far as i know
[10:11] <YukiCuss> jellyware, boom!
[10:11] <BlueHeron> i really must remember to google things.
[10:11] <jellyware> boom?
[10:11] <sarek> I use NetworkManager to manage my wlan setting and find it a bit annoying to have to enter the password right after login ... why not unlock the keyring rightaway?
[10:11] <YukiCuss> Yes, boom.
[10:12] <jellyware> YukiCuss, what are you talking bout?
[10:12] <YukiCuss> jellyware, why not? boom! kablammo! .. anyway ..
[10:12] <YukiCuss> sarek, I assume pam_keyring simply has yet to make its way in.
[10:13] <sarek> YukiCuss: and (i know that it's not advisable) is there a way to reset the keyrings masterpassword, so that the keyring itself would not have a pw?
[10:13] <jellyware> all quiet on the cd shipping front
[10:13] <YukiCuss> jellyware, do you mean #ubuntu-au? :)
[10:14] <YukiCuss> sarek, I believe it is doable, but I'm not sure on the particulars myself. You may have some hunting to do.
[10:14] <jellyware> oh
[10:14] <jellyware> wrong room
[10:14] <sarek> k, thanks anyways
[10:14] <YukiCuss> xP
[10:14] <YukiCuss> sarek, no probs.
[10:14] <pallav> i m having problem in change the screen resolution for my monitor
[10:14] <pallav> :(
[10:14] <jbritz22> is there a file manager for linux that is similiar to the one in windows (my computer, etc)
[10:15] <sethrd> jbritz22: Yeah, Nautlis.
[10:15] <BlueHeron> jbritz22, nautilus
[10:15] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, nautilus in itself is fairly similar.
[10:15] <jbritz22> ehhh
[10:15] <weedar> I'm unable to print pdf files - has anyone else had the same problem?
[10:15] <jbritz22> anything besides nautlus
[10:15] <sarek> cu
[10:15] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, why?
[10:15] <YukiCuss> sarek, see ya.
[10:15] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, i dont like nautlius...XD
[10:15] <pallav> the screen is soo damm big
[10:16] <pallav> stupid 640x480
[10:16] <pallav> how can i change it?
[10:16] <neoxan> yes
[10:16] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, there's the want for a file manager similar to Windows, and there's a good one, but you don't want it.. why do you want one particularly like Windows?
[10:16] <jbritz22> is there any repos for all of sourceforge?
[10:16] <BlueHeron> system>prefs>screen resolution
[10:16] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, that would be rather unmanagable.
[10:16] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, iunno, just dontlike nautilus
[10:17] <pallav> hey blueheron
[10:17] <BlueHeron> yes ?
[10:17] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, i guess ill have to get used to it
[10:17] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, either that, or try something completely different.
[10:17] <pallav> there is no options for changing form 640x480 to anything else
[10:17] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, but im having trouble installing a program
[10:17] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, can you hELP me
[10:17] <Madpilot> !tell pallav about fixres
[10:17] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, er, certainly. Explain?
[10:17] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110320 i dont know what to do with the files in the zip
[10:18] <pallav> madpilot??
[10:18] <Madpilot> pallav, you should have gotten a pm from the bot...
[10:18] <BlueHeron> pallav, check your pm's
[10:18] <pallav> oh yeah checking it now
[10:18] <pallav> cheers
[10:18] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, i'll check it, one moment.
[10:18] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, sweet thanks
[10:19] <Keal> how do i use my live cd to repair a boot record for a hdd in a usb enclosure
[10:19] <Keal> should i use the 64bit live cd or the 32bit live cd. this is an amd64 running xp
[10:19] <BlueHeron> Keal, you can use a 32bit live-cd
[10:20] <Keal> is the 64bit version better?
[10:20] <BlueHeron> no
[10:20] <BlueHeron> worse actually
[10:20] <Keal> is it atleast faster
[10:20] <Keal> it sucks?
[10:20] <YukiCuss> Keal, there's not so much advantage.
[10:20] <Keal> wtg ubuntu peeps
[10:20] <BlueHeron> alot of stuff doesn't work on 64
[10:20] <BlueHeron> it's not ubuntu's fault
[10:20] <BlueHeron> it's alot of companies.
[10:21] <BlueHeron> such as java flash etc
[10:21] <Keal> good thing i grabbed both from compusa
[10:21] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, did you read `README.TXT'?
[10:21] <jbritz22> yup
[10:21] <YukiCuss> Did you follow the instructions?
[10:21] <jbritz22> yup
[10:21] <BlueHeron> Keal, grabbed both what
[10:21] <jbritz22> no jar file
[10:22] <YukiCuss> .. no jar file? It says:
[10:22] <YukiCuss> `FOR LINUX:
[10:22] <YukiCuss>   chmod +x ./DGuitar.sh
[10:22] <YukiCuss>   ./DGuitar.sh
[10:22] <Keal> so how do i use ubuntu 32bit live cd on an amd64 with xp 32bit to repair a 8gb maxtor boot record that is partitioned as 3.1gb?
[10:22] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, hmm
[10:22] <BlueHeron> !fixmbr
[10:22] <ubotu> BlueHeron: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:22] <BlueHeron> hm
[10:22] <BlueHeron> !mbr
[10:22] <ubotu> BlueHeron: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:23] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, crap, sorry about that...lol
[10:23] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, you may encounter another issue. If you do, just `sudo apt-get install libgtk-java'
[10:23] <jbritz22> i got java installed
[10:23] <jbritz22> so i should be good
[10:23] <YukiCuss> Alright, well, good luck. Test first. :)
[10:23] <Keal> the hdd is in a compusa 'back-up' enclosure which connects to the laptop via usb2.0
[10:24] <Keal> xp does not have the back-up software installed so all my enclosures of this type function as normal non back-up enclosures
[10:25] <BlueHeron> weird
[10:25] <Keal> the hdd is either fat16 or fat32
[10:25] <BlueHeron> sounds sucky
[10:25] <BlueHeron> i doubt it is fat16
[10:25] <BlueHeron> and how big is it?
[10:25] <BlueHeron> because if it's fat16 or fat32 it has to be under 32GB i believe
[10:25] <Keal> 8gb max capacity it is partitioned to 3.1
[10:25] <BlueHeron> i see
[10:25] <BlueHeron> probably FAT32
[10:25] <Unimatrix9> is there an web frontend for samba ?
[10:26] <BlueHeron> and you want to whipe it clean or what?
[10:26] <Keal> i want to recover 100% of the data on it
[10:26] <BlueHeron> i see
[10:26] <BlueHeron> you can boot into an ubuntu cd and view the files
[10:26] <BlueHeron> and then burn them to a cd or something.
[10:26] <Keal> i cant get it to mount using xp
[10:26] <BlueHeron> Keal, try using ubuntu live-cd
[10:27] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, ok sweet it worked
[10:27] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, neat!
[10:27] <Keal> will it automatically mount via usb2.0 to the compusa enclosure containing the maxtor?
[10:27] <BlueHeron> Keal, dunno.
[10:27] <jbritz22> YukiCuss, whats a good app for icons  for desktop on fluxbox
[10:28] <BlueHeron> jbritz22, to make icons?
[10:28] <Keal> i thought you were ubuntu crew what are you a groupie?
[10:28] <jbritz22> like
[10:28] <jbritz22> shortcuts and crap
[10:28] <BlueHeron> Keal, you just have a weird setup i have no experience with, and i just help people here.
[10:28] <BlueHeron> when i can.
[10:28] <ali> is there any list of 100% supported laptops on ubuntu?
[10:28] <Keal> i cannot afford to accidently damage the hdd worse than it already is
[10:29] <YukiCuss> jbritz22, unsure, I use ion3.
[10:29] <Keal> there is some opensource clones of military ai on it
[10:29] <gnu_style> wats cc=3.4 mean?
[10:29] <gnu_style> and export cc?
[10:29] <YukiCuss> gnu_style, i feel that should be CC=gcc3.4
[10:29] <gnu_style> is cc a command in unix?
[10:29] <Keal> and the source wasnt released yet during the time of the crash
[10:29] <gnu_style> YukiCuss yah thats it
[10:29] <YukiCuss> gnu_style, no, it's a variable.
[10:30] <YukiCuss> gnu_style, it tells Makefiles which compiler to use.
[10:30] <Keal> does ubuntu have a total disc surface iso cloner tool?
[10:30] <gnu_style> YukiCuss why do I have to cc=dcc3.5 and export cc before I run nvidia.run?
[10:30] <YukiCuss> gnu_style, assumedly, that program compiles kernel modules that have to use a particular version of GCC.
[10:31] <gnu_style> export cc it exports the variable cc to where?
[10:31] <YukiCuss> gnu_style, the shell.
[10:31] <YukiCuss> gnu_style, it's just an environment variable.
[10:31] <gnu_style> YukiCuss is that temporary? if I close the shell to I have to export again?
[10:31] <Keal> i would like to clone the entire disc surface of the maxtor and create and iso or dmg if possible using thta
[10:31] <BlueHeron> Keal, what OS you on now?
[10:32] <gnu_style> YukiCuss wats wrong if compile it in gcc 4.0 ?
[10:32] <YukiCuss> gnu_style, correct. I'm unsure why it would want you to run it so many times if that had to happen, though.
[10:32] <BlueHeron> Keal, boot on an ubuntu-live cd and see if you can access the drive ..
[10:32] <Keal> this maxtor used win98
[10:32] <Keal> possibly win95
[10:32] <YukiCuss> gnu_style, gcc4 may have some eccentricities. They tell you to do this for a reason.
[10:32] <heatxsink> hello all
[10:32] <YukiCuss> Trust me when I say it's not good to `try' a later version of GCC anyway.
[10:33] <infamousjeff> if anyone has had a problem installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 5.10 because of gnome-system-tools just remove the system-tools package before installing kubuntu then reinstall it.. i googled this and saw there was no definitive answer to the conflict fyi :)
[10:33] <Keal> how do i chat here while using ubuntu?
[10:33] <mockme> is there any utilities for linux that works like winscp?
[10:33] <YukiCuss> Keal, xchat is the most common method.
[10:33] <Keal> just a sec my laptop is running slow
[10:33] <BlueHeron> Keal, xCHAT
[10:33] <BlueHeron> Keal, or irssi
[10:33] <kingspwned> mockme, if winscp is what i think it is, scp is your thing. if not, forgive me.
[10:33] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, unaware where that capitalisation comes from ..
[10:33] <gnu_style> Keal konversion
[10:33] <johanbr> mockme: scp, or gftp if you prefer a gui.
[10:33] <infamousjeff> xchat is great.. gaim is good if you are not used to IRC and are more comfortable with AIM/ICQ/MSN
[10:33] <BlueHeron> YukiCuss, lol yea
[10:34] <BlueHeron> YukiCuss, i was typing fast :-P
[10:34] <YukiCuss> xP
[10:34] <infamousjeff> if you are oldschool go with bitchx :)
[10:34] <BlueHeron> bitchx Lol
[10:34] <BlueHeron> ;-p
[10:34] <infamousjeff> i love that little script hehe
[10:34] <gnu_style> Keal bitchx is hard to use
[10:34] <kingspwned> irssi is the only way to irc
[10:34] <mockme> can u help me guys on how to use scp?
[10:34] <mockme> i want to cope a folder on my server
[10:34] <gnu_style> always use konversion
[10:34] <kingspwned> mockme, man scp tells you a lot very quickly
[10:34] <gnu_style> :)
[10:34] <mockme> i want to copy a folder on my server
[10:34] <mockme> k thnks
[10:35] <Keal> will i be able to use the net? how will ubuntu know my wep key?
[10:35] <eth42> ubuntu 5.10 does not detect my usb mouse immediately but only if I plug it out and in several times (if ever)
[10:35] <eth42> does anyone know how to locate the problem?
[10:35] <infamousjeff> rtfm n00b! jk :) what are you wanting to copy with scp?
[10:35] <YukiCuss> Keal, you tell it.
[10:35] <kingspwned> mockme, remember -r to copy recursively
[10:35] <Keal> every boot? :(
[10:35] <V4Vendetta> hm
[10:36] <YukiCuss> Keal, just the once will do.
[10:36] <infamousjeff> eth42: your usb mouse is it plugged into a usb port or is it using a ps2 adapter?
[10:36] <rybuntu> anyone know how to change the brown screen when logging in from gdm to gnome?
[10:36] <Keal> but it is live cd
[10:36] <Nabiki> I have a question.  How much does the main hard disk getting full effect the performance of Linux? :) I know that under windows it's a killer even if you have all the swap on a different drive.
[10:36] <Keal> my ubuntu didnt come with a manual :(
[10:36] <mockme> kingspwned, , i can't get the correct format on connecting to my server
[10:36] <km0ti0n> How do I configure DualHead Display?
[10:37] <infamousjeff> nabiki: it shouldnt affect the performance like it does windows because of the sweet filesystem.. ext3 doesnt fragment afaik
[10:37] <eth42> infamousjeff: no, but maybe there is an internal ps/2 adapter? at least in xorg.conf, the protocol is ImPS/2
[10:37] <michal`> hey, what kind of poison have ubuntu developers inject into binaries or libc ABI that nothing cna run under vanilla kernel ?
[10:37] <Nabiki> :P
[10:37] <V4Vendetta> :-P
[10:37] <V4Vendetta> :P
[10:38] <eth42> rybuntu: I once changed it but don't remember how. I'd look for xinit.rc or gdm_init or something like that...
[10:38] <Black_Bishop> Hey, all.  Is the general consensus to install automatix or just do it yourself?  I just had to re-install after something in automatix made my X windows unstartable.  Any thoughts?
[10:38] <BlueHeron> automatix = the devil
[10:38] <BlueHeron> use easyubuntu
[10:38] <BlueHeron> !easyubuntu
[10:38] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[10:38] <Nabiki> michal`, See, thing is that everything these days depend on libs.  If the libs aren't linked into the kernel where they are needed, then nothing will run. ^^;
[10:38] <YukiCuss> Black_Bishop, easyubuntu.
[10:38] <infamousjeff> i used easyubuntu and it didnt seem to do much.. i guess i had already done everytrhing by that time
[10:38] <Keal> how do i install ubuntu on my laptop so it only serves as being a multibooter into whichever external hdd i choose to boot from via usb 2.0?
[10:38] <Black_Bishop> BlueHeron, YukiCuss:  Thank you.  Will do
[10:38] <rybuntu> eth42: thanks ill find / those
[10:39] <michal`> Nabiki: yes, sure, libs linked into kernel... what do you smoke ? ;p
[10:39] <gnu_style> s
[10:39] <infamousjeff> automatix is  a good idea BUT! dont use it because it uses --force flags which can break your system
[10:39] <GNUstye> s
[10:39] <BlueHeron> !automatix
[10:39] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[10:39] <Nabiki> michal`, Well, perhaps modules is a better term.  Not a lot of difference. :)
[10:39] <infamousjeff> IF one day automatix doesnt use --force flags then its worth using.. easyubuntu does essentially the same thing but its much safer although i dont think it installs as much stuff
[10:39] <Keal> how do i install ubuntu on my laptop so it only serves as being a multibooter into whichever external hdd i choose to boot from via usb 2.0? :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
[10:40] <BlueHeron> Keal, you could install grub
[10:40] <BlueHeron> !grub
[10:40] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:40] <infamousjeff> #2 reason not to use automatix is the so called script kiddie developer arnieboy acts like a 12 year old brat
[10:40] <BlueHeron> GNUstye, don't CTCP me
[10:40] <m0s^> is there a way to change properties for my Wlan network card ? i think it's in "power save mode" and i only download in 10kb/s :/
[10:40] <YukiCuss> infamousjeff, agreeably.
[10:40] <Black_Bishop> infamousjeff:  I don't mind installing things by hand.  It's just hard to pass up on the convienience of a script like automatix.  But like I said, it does me no good if it makes my system unusable.  I will check out easyubuntu
[10:40] <GNUstye> I just pinged the whole channel.. sori :)
[10:41] <infamousjeff> i wouldnt use either(automatix or easyubuntu) if first starting out... its better to learn this stuff man
[10:41] <BlueHeron> infamousjeff, apt-get is best
[10:41] <Nabiki> :)  I would suggest aptitude and synaptic.
[10:41] <Nabiki> Both are installed as part of the base install.
[10:41] <GNUstye> infamousjeff, why not easyubuntu?
[10:41] <Keal> do they have usb 2.0 hardware that allows two computers to use an hdd at the same time yet?
[10:41] <Nabiki> apt-get is partofthe original install also. :)
[10:41] <BlueHeron> easyubuntu drains the learning
[10:42] <GNUstye> why do I have red horz lines on my X_chat?
[10:42] <michal`> Nabiki: wel, if under vanilla kernel _everything_ all my tries to exec whatever ends with "invalid argument" something has to be wrong
[10:42] <rob> GNUstye, they represent where you last were
[10:42] <YukiCuss> GNUstye, it represents the last time you switched there.
[10:42] <Keal> do they have usb 2.0 hardware that allows multiple computers to use an hdd at the same time yet?
[10:42] <Black_Bishop> I've been using Ubuntu for just over six months now, and prior to that, RH based distros, so I know how to install software.  But automatix is tempting...Like the dark side...Quicker, Easier.
[10:43] <GNUstye> Black_Bishop, apt-get
[10:43] <infamousjeff> hehe the flamewars between arnieboy and the ubuntu community amuse me to no end though.. its hillarious to read lordhunter and others
[10:43] <GNUstye> Black_Bishop, is that similar to automatrix?
[10:43] <Nabiki> michal`,  I don't know that much about the kernel, but I am guessing that you probably missed a few options in the compile.  Did you use the kernelpackage package to set it up? (I am GUESSING that such exists in Ubuntu, it does in Debian.) ^^;;
[10:43] <Keal> do they have hot swappable usb 2.0 hardware that allows multiple computers to use an hdd at the same time yet?
[10:43] <infamousjeff> non-sequitor inductive fallacy lol
[10:43] <Seveas> Black_Bishop, automatix is a virus...
[10:43] <Black_Bishop> GNUstye:  I don't know what automatrix is, so I do not know
[10:44] <GNUstye> infamousjeff, wat can an ip address basically do?
[10:44] <Nabiki> Black_Bishop, My suggestion is Synaptic and aptitude if you want quick and easy.
[10:44] <michal`> Nabiki: i have mine own configuration that boots and runs here, i do nto need any assistance in configuring - and the same kernel works everywhere but ubuntu
[10:44] <GNUstye> Black_Bishop, I mean automatix
[10:44] <BlueHeron> !ubotu
[10:44] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:44] <GNUstye> use kynaptic or adept
[10:44] <Seveas> !forget spanish
[10:44] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot spanish
[10:45] <Seveas> !forget qtincludes
[10:45] <ubotu> i forgot qtincludes, Seveas
[10:45] <BlueHeron> anyone know how to change the color xchat shows when somone says your name?
[10:45] <BlueHeron> i'd like it to be green instead of red
[10:45] <johanbr> michal`: I've used kernels from kernel.org with ubuntu. You must've omitted something in your config.
[10:45] <michal`> nothing can give you invalid argument :)
[10:45] <Seveas> BlueHeron, settings->advanced->text events
[10:45] <Black_Bishop> Nabiki:  Yeah, that's what I have been using.  Do you know if there is a handy repository that contains the "illegal" software automatix will install?  i.e. the DVD player and Win Codecs?
[10:46] <Seveas> Black_Bishop, plf, cipherfunk, mine...
[10:46] <BlueHeron> Seveas, which one is it? :-)
[10:46] <Seveas> Black_Bishop, http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:46] <Nabiki> Black_Bishop, Look up the Seveas stuff on the wiki.
[10:46] <Black_Bishop> Seveas:  Gracias
[10:46] <Seveas> BlueHeron, Channel Msg Hilight
[10:46] <infamousjeff> bbl yall.. check out gamezforge.com in the future if your into game development
[10:47] <Nabiki> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:47] <BlueHeron> Seveas, hmm okay, i don't see how do edit it though
[10:47] <Seveas> BlueHeron, the <digits> is a color, change it to green
[10:47] <GNUstye> can an Ip adress harm me?
[10:47] <Nabiki> In the sources.list file :)
[10:47] <johanbr> michal`: Maybe you compiled the kernel with a gcc that's ABI-incompatible with the one ubuntu used for glibc?
[10:47] <Nabiki> edit the sources.list, then apt-get update
[10:48] <michal`> just recompiling it after mrproper
[10:48] <michal`> will see
[10:49] <johanbr> GNUstye: That's like asking if the number 11 can harm you.
[10:49] <BlueHeron> GNUstye, harm you.... LOL
[10:49] <BlueHeron> that's classic
[10:49] <kuja> johanbr: It can :O
[10:49] <kuja> 11 is a dangerous number :(
[10:49] <BlueHeron> sure is
[10:49] <BlueHeron> 2x1 fear it.
[10:49] <michal`> give it to us and we will see :P
[10:49] <GNUstye> I mean if anybody knows my ip could they gain acces to my system?
[10:50] <BlueHeron> GNUstye, possibly
[10:50] <BlueHeron> GNUstye, i know your ip
[10:50] <Nabiki> GNUstye, Depends on how jacked up your security is.
[10:50] <BlueHeron> 203.177.244.123
[10:50] <BlueHeron> :-P
[10:50] <sfaris> hacker
[10:50] <kuja> GNUstye: 203.177.244.123 -- This is your IP, what can I do with it? Can I ssh with root/no password?
[10:50] <Nabiki> GNUstye, Anyone online can get that info. ^^;;
[10:51] <GNUstye> if I give you my root password can u ssh me?
[10:51] <m0s^> try my ip ;)
[10:51] <BlueHeron> GNUstye, i could sure
[10:51] <m0s^> firewall1.driftbolaget.se
[10:51] <GNUstye> my ip is 10.0.0.1
[10:51] <Nabiki> GNUstye, Giving out the root password is a BAD thing.
[10:52] <Nabiki> I don't care if it's your grandmother... root is bad. :P
[10:52] <BlueHeron> GNUstye, you don't have an SSH server running
[10:52] <GNUstye> can anybody crack the root pass
[10:52] <GNUstye> ?
[10:52] <m0s^> brute force ?
[10:52] <kingspwned> GNUstye, no
[10:52] <kuja> Anything is possible.
[10:52] <kuja> Also, anything is a matter of time and effort.
[10:53] <kingspwned> GNUstye, it takes a little effort. and you should disable root login in sshd_config
[10:53] <kingspwned> GNUstye, and never use the same password for root and users that can ssh
[10:53] <kingspwned> etc, etc
[10:53] <kingspwned> debian.org has a very nice guide to hardening your system
[10:53] <Black_Bishop> GNUstye:  Are you housing any data that would justify someone spending the effort to crack your root password?
[10:53] <Killgore> how does X know what resolution to use in xorg.conf
[10:53] <BlueHeron> he is housing over 100gigs of gay teen porn
[10:54] <GNUstye> Black_Bishop, im just confussed about how people crack,
[10:54] <BlueHeron> some people like that.
[10:54] <kuja> Killgore: It uses the first one listed.
[10:54] <kuja> Killgore: You have "x" "y" "z", it will use "x" for that specific depth.
[10:54] <Killgore> kuja: it says the depth is 1 tho
[10:54] <kuja> Is that what you set your depth at?
[10:54] <Killgore> oh does it use the default depth listed
[10:54] <Killgore> 24
[10:54] <kingspwned> GNUstye, they usually dont crack bruteforce, like trying out a billion combinations to your root password. usually cracks are based on exploits - bugs in the ssh-daemon for example, or many other things
[10:55] <Killgore> so if i change DefaultDepth to 16 then ill need to make res entrys for that depth?
[10:55] <kuja> It should use whatever depth you tell it to use, *if* the specific graphics card driver works at that depth.
[10:55] <kuja> Otherwise it should default to a lower depth.
[10:55] <GNUstye> kingspawn, exploits? ssh-daemon has still bugs?
[10:55] <kuja> Killgore: Correct
[10:56] <Killgore> kuja: i think windows could have 16bit @ 1280x1024
[10:56] <kingspwned> GNUstye, not known ones, but everything has bugs.
[10:56] <BlueHeron> ahh, message highlight is a nice blue now :-)
[10:56] <Killgore> kuja: which i want now
[10:56] <Yoric> In addition to which, iirc, the protocol ssh has been proved unsecure.
[10:56] <Yoric> Not very unsecure, but unsecure nevertheless.
[10:56] <BlueHeron> Yoric, it has?
[10:56] <Killgore> i dindnt think so
[10:56] <Yoric> I might be confusing with related protocols.
[10:56] <kingspwned> like the guide says, if you want a secure system, dont allow any type of access.
[10:56] <GNUstye> kingspawn, is linux more vulnerable to exploits cause its open source any any one could just examine the code?
[10:56] <kingspwned> ssh2 is atleast better, afaik
[10:56] <Yoric> Needhan-Schrder is part of ssh, isn't it ?
[10:56] <YukiCuss> GNUstye, no, it's *less* vulnerable.
[10:56] <Keal> can you use a zillion depth?
[10:56] <kuja> Killgore: You want a new SubSection for your display, where the Depth is set to 16, and Modes is a quoted list of resolutions (in the order of which to use)
[10:57] <Yoric> (sorry, Needham, not Needhan)
[10:57] <YukiCuss> kingspawn, not having a server at all means that no one can find it to get access :) totally secure.
[10:57] <BlueHeron> that's like saying
[10:57] <GNUstye> YukiCuss, how can anybody see an exploit unless he sees the source?
[10:57] <BlueHeron> dont have a car so no one can steal it
[10:57] <BlueHeron> :-P
[10:57] <kingspwned> YukiCuss, exactly :)
[10:57] <kingspwned> hehe
[10:57] <Keal> zzz
[10:57] <kingspwned> GNUstye, people argue over it. with an open source environment there might be exploits, but there are just as quickly fixes.
[10:58] <Nabiki> One thing you could always try, is to reset your root password to something gernated using a randomizer of some sort every few months. :P  Ubuntu discourages the use of root anyway.
[10:58] <YukiCuss> GNUstye, anyone can exploit; how do you think Windows has so many critical flaws unearthed in it every week, month? The fact is, everyone gets to see the source, means that everyone gets to fix it.
[10:58] <GNUstye> kingspawn, about ssh is that like putty?
[10:58] <Killgore> kuju: gaim just died
[10:58] <YukiCuss> GNUstye, PuTTY is an SSH client.
[10:58] <kingspwned> GNUstye, yeah, putty can use the ssh protocol
[10:58] <kingspwned> GNUstye, but its not an ssh server, if that was what you were wondering
[10:58] <Black_Bishop> GNUstye:  Depends who you ask.  Of course, closed-source companies will tell you it is less secure due to the availibility of the code.  Open-source proponents will tell you that bug occur in ALL software and the open-source model ensures they get fixed very quickly.  It's up to you to observe what happens and decide.
[10:59] <Killgore> just update regularly
[10:59] <YukiCuss> Black_Bishop, though, open-source supporters' central idea is correct; it's proved that bugs occur in every type of software, both closed- and open-source.
[10:59] <GNUstye> kingspawn, any sh server you know of?
[10:59] <YukiCuss> GNUstye, openssh-server package will do it.
[10:59] <Yoric> Researchers will tell you that everything is crap and obsolete :)
[10:59] <kingspwned> GNUstye, openssh-server. oh, yeah, like YukiCuss says :)
[10:59] <GNUstye> does an OS X tiger have BUGS?
[10:59] <Nabiki> Highly useful software.
[10:59] <Black_Bishop> YukiCuss:  Yes, I agree with the open-source model.  I just don't want to preach to GNUstye.
[10:59] <YukiCuss> Yoric, they may even suggest a fix [eg. a replacement] , but never actually implement one. :)
[11:00] <YukiCuss> Black_Bishop, of course. :)
[11:00] <kingspwned> GNUstye, every computer you ever lay your hands on will have a zillion bugs
[11:00] <heatxsink> anyone in here ever gotten their Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS firewire port working?
[11:00] <Yoric> YukiCuss, implementing is just boring :)
[11:00] <GNUstye> can anybody just fix all the bugs? or fixing a bug opens another?
[11:00] <Nabiki> GNUstye, EVERYTHING has bugs. :)  It's a fact of life. ^_^
[11:00] <YukiCuss> GNUstye, fixing all the bugs is why everyone is working all the time! :)
[11:00] <BlueHeron> hm
[11:01] <YukiCuss> GNUstye, if you ever program, you will realise what it's like.
[11:01] <BlueHeron> there we go
[11:01] <GNUstye> Nabiki, exploits = bugs?
[11:01] <kuja> Bah... bugs bugs bugs
[11:01] <BlueHeron> my text is now purple woo hoo
[11:01] <kingspwned> GNUstye, bugs get fixed. new programs that are better than the last ones get introduced. they have new bugs. they get fixed. ad inifintum.
[11:01] <kuja> It's pretty safe to say that 80% of us in here are programmer's eh?
[11:01] <GNUstye> I know a little C and BASIC
[11:01] <Black_Bishop> GNUstye:  You are asking questions that even programmers that have meditated on mountiantops for centuries (OK, maybe not that long) have yet to answer.
[11:01] <kuja> s/'s/s/
[11:01] <YukiCuss> Black_Bishop, maybe not that long, but they certainly were on those mountaintops at some point!
[11:01] <kingspwned> GNUstye, then you know that it takes very little for a program to do something its not supposed to do
[11:01] <Killgore> i hate bugs.....they go on my food
[11:01] <Nabiki> GNUstye, An exploit is an UGLY bug, but not all bugs are exploits.  An exploit is a bug that someone can use against the ssytem.
[11:02] <Killgore> lightweight IRC clien?
[11:02] <YukiCuss> Killgore, irssi
[11:02] <kuja> Killgore: weechat?
[11:02] <kuja> weechat is like irssi, with a userlist :P
[11:02] <BlueHeron> !uptime
[11:02] <Killgore> just looking for something equivalent to mIRC
[11:02] <YukiCuss> Killgore, xchat
[11:02] <GNUstye> Nabiki, ic now, so anybody can crack my yahoo email password?
[11:02] <Killgore> i have x :)
[11:02] <GNUstye> is that possible?
[11:03] <Black_Bishop> Killgore:  I hear people like BitchX, which is a console client, despite its name.
[11:03] <kuja> GNUstye: If they had reason, time, and patience, yes.
[11:03] <YukiCuss> GNUstye, it /might/ be possible, but it's very unlikely.
[11:03] <Killgore> ill try xchat
[11:03] <Killgore> brb
[11:03] <kuja> It *IS*, I >>highly<< emphasize *IS*, possible.
[11:03] <GNUstye> YukiCuss, is yahoo 100% secure?
[11:03] <YukiCuss> GNUstye, nothing can be 100% secure.
[11:03] <Nabiki> GNUstye, If they really wanted too they probably could, but I wouldn't worry too much. :P  Just assume that your email is insecure, and your life will be a lot easier.
[11:03] <kingspwned> GNUstye, "cracking" a password is something pretty old fashioned, i think. it seldom happens.
[11:03] <kuja> The fact that no one will waste their time, and that you're hidden among a million other registered users is what builds the time.
[11:03] <YukiCuss> Dinner..
[11:04] <BlueHeron> cracking a password is more of a battle.net thing
[11:04] <kingspwned> GNUstye, just think. you try to enter the wrong password, or send the wrong password. yahoo takes 7 seconds to respond, telling you it is wrong, you send another..
[11:04] <kingspwned> then multiply 7 seconds by 100.000
[11:04] <GNUstye> kingspawn, they only allow 5 tries I guess
[11:05] <kingspwned> it takes a lot more time than people really want to devote to get a hold of emails from your grandmother
[11:05] <BlueHeron> lol
[11:05] <BlueHeron> i wish my grandma was computerl literate
[11:05] <BlueHeron> we could skype it up
[11:05] <kingspwned> haha
[11:05] <kuja> The chances of someone cracking your password grows exponentially if *they already know you* though.
[11:05] <kingspwned> i wish grandma was alive ;)
[11:05] <BlueHeron> yea mine died too
[11:05] <BlueHeron> :-(
[11:05] <GNUstye> kingspawn, why can CIA do everything from wire tapping to prying on email, they has the best programmers?
[11:05] <MikkelK> When i try to install Dapper i never get the first menu (http://www.ubuntu.com/include/testing/flight5/gfxboot-big.png), I only see the image, not the text. Anybody know why?
[11:05] <Black_Bishop> The conversation has become mournful
[11:06] <kingspwned> GNUstye, they're the cia. they know when you go to the toilet.
[11:06] <BlueHeron> GNUstye, wiretapping is the phone company the cia just calls them with the # and it's not like hacking since they own the lines
[11:06] <GNUstye> Black_Bishop, :) no body has to mourn
[11:06] <SithPottsy-0x80> hi
[11:06] <SithPottsy-0x80> urgent help!
[11:06] <kingspwned> GNUstye, we should probably take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <BlueHeron> ask a q
[11:06] <GNUstye> how about emails? why can they see someones mail?
[11:06] <SithPottsy-0x80> where can i find the 8.22.5 drivers?
[11:07] <GNUstye> im going there
[11:08] <BlueHeron> lol
[11:08] <Madpilot> SithPottsy-0x80, 8.22.5 drivers for what?
[11:08] <Nabiki> GNUstye, As for emails, real simple... They take a warrant to the ISP, and say show us the email.
[11:08] <SithPottsy-0x80> ati
[11:08] <BlueHeron> Nabiki, they just did that with somone's gmail
[11:08] <SithPottsy-0x80> the 8.23.7 dont work, due to Diaplay running on 93
[11:08] <GNUstye> Nabiki, im going to ubuntu offtopic
[11:08] <kuja> Nabiki: They're the CIA, they don't need a warrant.
[11:08] <Madpilot> SithPottsy-0x80, tried ATI's website?
[11:08] <kuja> :)
[11:08] <SithPottsy-0x80> i can only find the 8.23.7's
[11:09] <Madpilot> kuja, #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[11:09] <SithPottsy-0x80> i can find the archive for older drivers
[11:09] <SithPottsy-0x80> cant*
[11:10] <patrick52222> if i brought an external drive case and put one of my ide hard drives in and connected it to ubuntu as like a storage would it see it
[11:10] <Yoric> What would you do if, say, your X couldn't boot and also didn't leave a log ?
[11:11] <hyphenated> Yoric: I'd log in at the text prompt and type startx
[11:11] <SithPottsy-0x80> at grub choose (recovery)
[11:11] <SithPottsy-0x80> to go to terminal, then re-install X
[11:11] <Yoric> hyphenated, no difference.
[11:11] <graham_> woo
[11:11] <Yoric> SithPottsy-0x80, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure-ing xserver-xorg, without success.
[11:11] <hyphenated> Yoric: what does it do after 'startx'?
[11:11] <hyphenated> does it have any messages at all?
[11:11] <Yoric> "X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0"
[11:11] <Yoric> about a million times
[11:11] <graham_> does anyone know how to change names in bitchX
[11:11] <SithPottsy-0x80> remove xserver-xorg then
[11:12] <Yoric> and then the usual dialog offering me to look at the logs
[11:12] <SithPottsy-0x80> did you edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf ?
[11:12] <Yoric> just the logs are empty
[11:12] <Yoric> SithPottsy-0x80, didn't touch it.
[11:12] <Yoric> But I've tried with both gdm and kdm, obtaining the same result.
[11:12] <SithPottsy-0x80> apt-get remove xserver then
[11:12] <SithPottsy-0x80> reboot then back in recovery install xserver
[11:12] <Killgore> is xchat graphical?
[11:12] <hyphenated> Killgore: yes
[11:13] <patrick52222> if i brought an external drive case and put one of my ide hard drives in and connected it to ubuntu as like a storage would it see it, please i need to know so i can buy one
[11:13] <Killgore> yeah
[11:13] <patrick52222> will iy
[11:13] <Killgore> if your usb drivers worked
[11:13] <Black_Bishop> Killgore:  X-Chat screenshots:  http://www.xchat.org/screenshots/
[11:13] <patrick52222> is there a max load it can take
[11:13] <Yoric> patrick52222, should work.
[11:14] <patrick52222> as it will be a 250gb
[11:14] <SithPottsy-0x80> has to be a usb2 enclosure, and ur mobo must support booting from usb - but it will act like normal
[11:14] <Killgore> patrick52222: no ti doesnt make a difference
[11:14] <Yoric> patrick52222, there is a max load but 250 Gb is way under that.
[11:14] <Killgore> patrick52222: are you planning on booting from it?
[11:14] <patrick52222> ok just making sure as some case i have only support 200gb
[11:16] <brosioz> anyone known a suite for programming like eclipse but not in java ?
[11:16] <BlueHeron> hm
[11:16] <SithPottsy-0x80> as long as the enclosure can support over 200gb then ubuntu will work like normal
[11:16] <patrick52222> nah just for storage, if made it  win32 format would i be able to write to it in ubuntu and still use it on my mum windows xp
[11:16] <fuzion> Ubuntu 5.10 AMD64 works really well under VMWare 5.5.1
[11:16] <Yoric> Ok, my X problem seems solved.
[11:16] <Yoric> I've been stupid.
[11:16] <BlueHeron> patrick52222, no ubuntu writing to NTFS is bad
[11:16] <SithPottsy-0x80> what happened?
[11:16] <Yoric> SithPottsy-0x80, playing with Xgl.
[11:16] <patrick52222> thats why i will make it win32 would this work
[11:17] <Killgore> BlueHeron: i think he means using it in windows XP
[11:17] <Black_Bishop> patrick52222:  You would have to format it as FAT32 to reliably write to it under Linux.
[11:17] <fuzion> NTFS writes have always worked for me, just have to chkdsk in recovery console every time...lol
[11:17] <BlueHeron> Killgore, yea he said using it in ubuntu and xp
[11:17] <patrick52222> do you recommend formating it to fat32
[11:17] <Killgore> definately
[11:17] <BlueHeron> patrick52222, fat32 can only do 32GB i believe
[11:17] <Killgore> really?
[11:17] <patrick52222> oh yeh, so wat linux format should i use
[11:18] <SithPottsy-0x80> fat32 has a 20gb limit using windows, though theres 3rd party aps which can disable that, and will give over 100+gb partitions
[11:18] <zugu> hello guys. i just installed ubuntu on an older machine, with no internet access. I want to listen to an mp3, but I need internet access to do it. I have another computer with internet acces. what shoul i do?
[11:18] <Killgore> well you could do ext2 and get a driver for windows
[11:18] <fuzion> fat32 max is 2TB
[11:18] <SithPottsy-0x80> theres a gud ext3 driver for windows
[11:19] <BlueHeron> fuzion, LOL
[11:19] <BlueHeron> fuzion, funny
[11:19] <Black_Bishop> zugu:  Why do you need internet access to listen to an MP3?  Do you need to install software?
[11:19] <SithPottsy-0x80> who'd want a 2tb partition witha  4gb filesize limit?
[11:19] <patrick52222> does any one have link for the drivers for windows
[11:19] <GTroy> crimsun: you around?
[11:19] <Killgore> exit
[11:19] <zugu> Black_Bishop: yes, I nees to use apt-get
[11:19] <Yoric> patrick52222, try http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[11:20] <SithPottsy-0x80> http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[11:20] <SithPottsy-0x80> ne1 know where i can get the 8.22.5 ati drivers?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> !ati
[11:21] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:21] <zugu> Black_Bishop: i can download the needed files on another computer, and i can transfer them on the Ubuntu machine, but I do not know where can i download the packages, and how to install them
[11:21] <Yoric> SithPottsy-0x80, have you checked Flavio Stanchina's page (or something like this)
[11:21] <patrick52222> cheers all got ot go, got college
[11:21] <Yoric> cheers
[11:21] <SithPottsy-0x80> theyr all links to the newer 8.23.7 drivers
[11:21] <Black_Bishop> zugu:  If you know what packages you need, you can place them anywhere on your Ubuntu machine and use dpkg to manually install them
[11:22] <zugu> Black_Bishop: that's good, but where can I find packages?
[11:23] <Black_Bishop> zugu:  Do you know which one(s) you need?
[11:23] <dli> any ubuntu wireless howto? I want to set "iwconfig essid", and dhclient wlan0
[11:23] <bimberi> zugu: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for what packages you need for mp3 playback.  Download via http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:23] <bimberi> !tell dli about wifi
[11:24] <dli> bimberi, thanks
[11:24] <bimberi> dli: yw :)
[11:24] <zugu> Black_Bishop: well, I need almost everything is listed here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html
[11:24] <zugu> Black_Bishop: especially video and audio codecs
[11:24] <SithPottsy-0x80> essid:  sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "ESSID"
[11:25] <SithPottsy-0x80> sudo dhclient wlan0
[11:27] <Killgore> xchat is pretty nice
[11:28] <MistaED> hey has anyone here had any experience with getting twain to work under wine?
[11:29] <ca> .pt
[11:30] <Killgore> !ping
[11:30] <ubotu> pong
[11:30] <PhilKC> !pong
[11:30] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PhilKC
[11:30] <skalpel> can someone help me please? i am trying to install ubuntu and i cannot get my screen resolution set correctly. i'm sure it has something to do with the refresh rate settings in my xorg.conf file. for some reason the maker of my lcd screen does not include the horz refresh rate in their manual nor do they give on through customer service. it lists the max vert refresh rate at 75 mhz, so how should the refresh rate entries look like 
[11:30] <MistaED> !twain
[11:30] <ubotu> MistaED: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell skalpel about fixres
[11:30] <ali_> is there any list of 100% supported laptops on ubuntu?
[11:30] <Killgore> !xorg
[11:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[11:31] <SithPottsy-0x80> damn this is annoying me now <_<
[11:32] <SithPottsy-0x80> fglrx_6_8_0-8.22.5-1.i686 <_<
[11:32] <skalpel> gnomefreak: thank you
[11:32] <Killgore> do i only need horx and vert refresh rates for LCD monitors?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:32] <holycow> join #ubuntu+1
[11:33] <gnomefreak> holycow: you forgot the /
[11:33] <emanuelez> hello
[11:34] <emanuelez> is ndiswrapper in the breezy installation cd?
[11:34] <holycow> :)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !ndswrapper
[11:34] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !ndiswrapper
[11:34] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:35] <g0dchild> hi, gnomefreak - i tried installing art-wiz fonts- but it doesnt work on my pc - anything i need to do like reconfiguring xserver-xorg?
[11:36] <sethrd> *sigh*
[11:36] <nickncicnkcnicnc> hey does anyone know anything about k3b
[11:36] <GTroy> nick: i do
[11:36] <GURT> i know that i dont really like it
[11:36] <GTroy> whatcha want to know
[11:37] <GTroy> GURT: c'mon it's not that bad
[11:37] <gnomefreak> nickncicnkcnicnc: yes its used to burn cds/dvds
[11:37] <nickncicnkcnicnc> I want to rip a dvd
[11:37] <GTroy> is it an .img?
[11:37] <nickncicnkcnicnc> when i click on the dvd it gives a list of the files on the dvd
[11:37] <nickncicnkcnicnc> no its a movie
[11:38] <nickncicnkcnicnc> I want to be able to rip to divx
[11:38] <anstei> i think k3b is rather for burning than for ripping
[11:38] <GTroy> nick: anstei is right
[11:38] <gnomefreak> !divx
[11:38] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:38] <GTroy> !nvidia drivers
[11:38] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GTroy
[11:38] <nickncicnkcnicnc> yea it had instructions for ripping
[11:39] <GTroy> !nvidia
[11:39] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:39] <nickncicnkcnicnc> any idea what i should use instead then
[11:40] <Yoric> Ok, now, everything seems to work except for the sound.
[11:40] <nickncicnkcnicnc> any suggestions for ripping dvd movies?
[11:40] <Yoric> nickncicnkcnicnc, you have received your answer.
[11:40] <Yoric> (and use dvdrip for the actual ripping)
[11:40] <gnomefreak> nickncicnkcnicnc: i think the name of one is dvdrip
[11:40] <nickncicnkcnicnc> yoric???
[11:41] <Killgore> changing xorg.conf is easy
[11:41] <GTroy> !nv
[11:41] <ubotu> GTroy: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:41] <GTroy> !nv driver
[11:41] <ubotu> GTroy: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:41] <nickncicnkcnicnc> ok found it on synaptic
[11:41] <gnomefreak> GTroy: please stop playing with the bot. what are you looking for?
[11:41] <nickncicnkcnicnc> ok downloading it now
[11:41] <nickncicnkcnicnc> is it gui
[11:41] <CarlU> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu and would like to know how to mount the selected volume for my CD-RW Drive
[11:42] <BlueHeron> GTroy, nvidia ?
[11:42] <BlueHeron> !nvidia
[11:42] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:42] <stevejesus> whats up guys.  anyone have a good dapper sources.list?
[11:42] <bimberi> !tell stevejesus about sources
[11:42] <anstei> !tell stevejesus about dapper
[11:42] <Killgore> CarlU: just put the disc in?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> stevejesus: try #ubuntu+1 for dapper and only the offical ones are in dapper for now
[11:43] <CarlU> I do put the disc in, put it keeps telling me that It couldn't mount the selected volume.
[11:43] <stevejesus> hmmmm.  if dapper is coming June 1st...  wouldn't it be called 6.06???
[11:43] <gnomefreak> stevejesus: its going to be
[11:43] <Madpilot> stevejesus, yeah, it will be
[11:44] <Killgore> CarlU: what, is it a blank disc?
[11:44] <GTroy> thanks BlueHeron
[11:44] <nickncicnkcnicnc> carlu you sure its a working dvd
[11:44] <gnomefreak> either 6.06 or 6-06
[11:44] <nickncicnkcnicnc> try your install dvd
[11:44] <stevejesus> i am living this xgl
[11:44] <nickncicnkcnicnc> sorry cd
[11:44] <stevejesus> loving*
[11:44] <SithPottsy-0x80> it is called 6.06 now
[11:44] <BlueHeron> GTroy, yep
[11:44] <CarlU> it's a CD-RW disc with some data on it.
[11:44] <nickncicnkcnicnc> do other cd's work
[11:44] <SithPottsy-0x80> which is better xgl or aiglx?
[11:45] <CarlU> 1 VCD works....sometimes.
[11:45] <Seveas> SithPottsy-0x80, aiglx
[11:45] <rybuntu> is it possible to change the ubuntu logo where the gnome foot is supposed to be
[11:45] <gnomefreak> it is called dapper drake right now and please bring the dapper talk to #ubuntu+1
[11:45] <Killgore> CarlU: is it the drive you installed from?
[11:45] <Seveas> SithPottsy-0x80, xgl actually is just an evil hack
[11:45] <CarlU> yeah
[11:45] <rybuntu> xgl is nice
[11:45] <Seveas> aiglx is a better way of implementing GUI niceness
[11:45] <stevejesus> regardless of its evil... i love it
[11:45] <zugu> me again: I've noticed that if I want to download a package from packages.ubuntu.com, that package might fully or partially depend on other packages; how do I know which of these additional packages are installed or not on my Ubuntu 5.10 default installation?
[11:45] <Killgore> CarlU: try a few different discs
[11:46] <gnomefreak> aiglx is availble?
[11:46] <SithPottsy-0x80> is there anything one can do that the other cant?
[11:46] <CarlU> alrighty
[11:46] <Seveas> zugu, why don't you use apt to download?
[11:46] <GTroy> what's aiglx?
[11:46] <rybuntu> has anyone suceeded in changing the ubuntu logo back to the gnome foot
[11:46] <Seveas> SithPottsy-0x80, aiglx can dynamically switch off the CPU intensive bits
[11:46] <cmvo> Hi! Where have the xserver-xorg manpages moved in dapper? They used to be in xserver-xorg-core in breezy.
[11:46] <SithPottsy-0x80> glx is by opensuse, aiglx is by redhat
[11:46] <rybuntu> brown and red just doesnt fit my current theme
[11:46] <SithPottsy-0x80> both are opengl on x i think
[11:46] <Seveas> cmvo, they are missing - they will be restored
[11:46] <CarlU> I tried a software disc and it worked straight away
[11:47] <stevejesus> anyone know the package name for the gnome bt client?
[11:47] <zugu> Seveas: I've stated my problem earlier, I cannot acces the internet on my ubuntu machine, so i'll have to download and install them manually
[11:47] <SithPottsy-0x80> yeah "Azureus"
[11:47] <Killgore> CarlU: maybe it doesnt like your disc
[11:47] <GTroy> stevejesus: bittornado, I like it
[11:47] <SithPottsy-0x80> or run u-torrent under wine
[11:47] <stevejesus> that would be the java client
[11:47] <gnomefreak> stevejesus: ther is one in your menu already
[11:47] <nickncicnkcnicnc> hey my girlfriend made a comment the other day which got me thinking, while i was hacking away at terminal she said thats such a boys thing you'll never see girl using that (linux) are there any girls in here?
[11:47] <Seveas> zugu, ah, missed that
[11:47] <CarlU> that's a shame
[11:47] <stevejesus> im playing on my dapper install right now, and i dont need java at all
[11:47] <CarlU> thanks for your help anyways
[11:47] <rybuntu> what are the differences between debian and ubuntu
[11:47] <Seveas> nickncicnkcnicnc, #ubuntu-women 
[11:47] <GTroy> nick: I've talk to a really hot one
[11:47] <Seveas> !tell rybuntu about debian
[11:47] <cmvo> Seveas: Tnx!
[11:48] <Killgore> nickncicnkcnicnc: yer there are girls in my IT course at Uni and they have to use linux
[11:48] <NickGarvey> www.linuxchix.com
[11:48] <nickncicnkcnicnc> but there's 656 people in here are any female
[11:48] <Assassin5> probably not
[11:48] <nickncicnkcnicnc> have to's don't count
[11:48] <gnomefreak> nickncicnkcnicnc: there is a womens ubuntu team
[11:48] <SithPottsy-0x80> id say ther'd be about 6 female, +- 6
[11:48] <zugu> me again: I've noticed that if I want to download a package from packages.ubuntu.com, that package might fully or partially depend on other packages; how do I know which of these additional packages are installed or not on my Ubuntu 5.10 default installation?
[11:49] <hyphenated> my girlfriend is sitting next to me, does that count?
[11:49] <Killgore> yes yes it does
[11:49] <SithPottsy-0x80> did she join the ubuntu channel?
[11:49] <hyphenated> nope. she's working on some bills and watching greys anatomy on tv
[11:49] <GTroy> Mr. Trout, great name
[11:49] <nickncicnkcnicnc> interesting though I've done engineering and its the same story
[11:49] <SithPottsy-0x80> 3d cgi is also the same
[11:49] <GTroy> is XGL worth the time?
[11:50] <GTroy> sorry had to throw that out
[11:50] <SithPottsy-0x80> yup#
[11:50] <Seveas> GTroy, imho not - but it's a matter of taste
[11:50] <gnomefreak> GTroy: no imo
[11:50] <SithPottsy-0x80> run a korora live cd
[11:50] <zugu> well then, I guess I'll install all the extra packages :D
[11:50] <Killgore> not many girls are in to technical things
[11:50] <Seveas> GTroy, #ubuntu-xgl is filled with people who love xgl
[11:50] <GTroy> I've run the kororra, but didn't think much of it
[11:50] <Killgore> from experience they dont like to experiemnt with tech things
[11:50] <SithPottsy-0x80> is there an ubuntu-antixgl
[11:50] <GTroy> haha
[11:50] <Seveas> SithPottsy-0x80, hehe
[11:51] <hyphenated> Killgore: it's much less exciting for them than Desperate Housewives, in my experience
[11:51] <gnomefreak> !women
[11:51] <ubotu> The Ubuntu women project women and men hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[11:51] <stevejesus> no, but there should be an ubuntu-ijustwantthedamnscreentodrawproperly channel
[11:51] <poningru_> arr?
[11:51] <SithPottsy-0x80> uno when dx10 comes out, will that get ported to wine? or is it completely different in that it requires windows DE to also be running, so no port would be possible
[11:51] <Killgore> lol
[11:52] <Seveas> SithPottsy-0x80, ask in #wine
[11:52] <SithPottsy-0x80> roger
[11:52] <Killgore> hyphenated: i like desperate housewives ;)
[11:52] <MistaED> #winehq is better
[11:52] <hyphenated> Killgore: more than tech things?
[11:52] <Killgore> hyphenated: lol no
[11:54] <Killgore> mythbusters is cool
[11:54] <Killgore> how many aussies in here?
[11:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> lots
[11:54] <stevejesus> 768
[11:54] <Seveas> mythbusters rocks
[11:54] <Seveas> but that's terribly offtopic in here
[11:54] <NickGarvey> aw I was just about to !offtopic
[11:54] <Seveas> so please move to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this channel for tech support
[11:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi pschulz01
[11:54] <Killgore> !offtopic
[11:54] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:55] <Nabiki> Are there applications to let me have a different wallpaper, or different menus for each virtual desktop?
[11:55] <Nabiki> (i.e. each workspace)
[11:55] <Killgore> its only offtopic if there are people with problems , like Nabiki
[11:55] <Killgore> i think there are Nabiki
[11:55] <stevejesus> im working on making some ultra-wide 4 desktop wide wallpaper that you might be interested in
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's offtopic anyway
[11:55] <Killgore> yes it is
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> Nabiki: yes there  are ways
[11:56] <BlueHeron> ARG
[11:56] <BlueHeron> i knew that would happen
[11:56] <stevejesus> i need to figure out a way to make libkipi draw my wallpaper  so that I can get some cool effects
[11:56] <Seveas> BlueHeron, and if you don't watch out it happens in here too
[11:56] <BlueHeron> Seveas, unban? :-(
[11:56] <BlueHeron> Seveas, i will behave :-(
[11:56] <nickncicnkcnicnc> ok just visited ubuntu-women and there's like three females at least active
[11:57] <nickncicnkcnicnc> why
[11:57] <Seveas> nickncicnkcnicnc, please take the off-topic discussions elsewhere - this is a tech support channel
[11:57] <stevejesus> does anyone in here have any experience with lipkipi?
[11:57] <stevejesus> libkipi*
[11:58] <koad> Seveas: can you help me to unzip file?
[11:58] <Seveas> koad, in the terminal: unzip filename.zip
[11:58] <koad> i am not in linux
[11:58] <BlueHeron> what offers the best compression, .bz2
[11:58] <Seveas> koad, then why so you ask in a linux channel?
[11:59] <Killgore> yer bz2 is pretty good
[11:59] <BlueHeron> koad, windows xp?
[11:59] <Seveas> BlueHeron, .7z or .bz2 depending on the input
[11:59] <koad> yes
[11:59] <BlueHeron> koad, just double click it then it will unzip
[11:59] <liable> koad: go away
[11:59] <koad> why?
[11:59] <nickncicnkcnicnc> sorry seveas
[11:59] <Seveas> liable, behave...
[11:59] <BlueHeron> koad, /join ##windows
[11:59] <koad> i am not using windows
[11:59] <SithPottsy-0x80> is there a 2.6.15-19-686 with smp support kernel?
[11:59] <koad> but linux
[11:59] <BlueHeron> omg..
[11:59] <BlueHeron> he is a troll
[11:59] <BlueHeron> ban please.
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> SithPottsy-0x80: they aall do
[12:00] <Madpilot> Seveas, well, he did ask... :P
[12:00] <SithPottsy-0x80> ahh :D
[12:00] <Seveas> SithPottsy-0x80, the -smp flavor has been removed since all kernels support cmp
[12:00] <Killgore> how do i make middle-click on my mouse work?
[12:00] <SithPottsy-0x80> setup mouse correctly in xorg
[12:00] <cmvo> Does anybody have success with xorg 7.0.0 not only accepting a custom modeline, but actually using it?
[12:00] <GTroy> ok guys, here's a crazy question, is there any really good music visualizers?
[12:01] <GTroy> say for xmms, or anything?
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> Seveas: CMP?
[12:01] <carbo> hi, is there any program to load cdrom ISOs as virtual drives?
[12:01] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, -ETYPO, smp of course
[12:01] <gnomefreak> cmvo: please bring dapper questions to #ubuntu+1
[12:01] <Killgore> SithPottsy thatnks
[12:01] <liable> just mount them on loopback
[12:02] <kartik> how do i run c & c++ in ubuntu????please help???
[12:02] <liable> carbo: ^^
[12:02] <Seveas> !tell kartik about compiling
[12:02] <Seveas> carbo, mount -o loop /path/to/iso  /path/to/mountpoint
[12:02] <cmvo> gnomefreak: 'll do :-)
[12:02] <carbo> liable: what's mounting on loopback? I've seen mention of loop in the man pages for mount, but i'm new to this
[12:03] <carbo> oh, hmm, you can mount ISOs just like that...?
[12:03] <Seveas> carbo, 'mount -o loop' is mounting via the loopback device 
[12:03] <Seveas> yes, it's that easy
[12:03] <carbo> i was thinking i'd have to at least unpack all the files from the ISO... well cool, i'll try it out
[12:03] <liable> carbo: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /foo.iso /your/mount/point
[12:04] <nickncicnkcnicnc>  ---- how do you do this
[12:04] <GnarusLeo> its a chinese secret
[12:04] <carbo> looks more Japanese to me
[12:04] <topyli> it's sindar elvish
[12:04] <carbo> its not Chinese at any rate :P
[12:04] <GNU_Style> gnomefreak, KDE anyone?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> GNU_Style: what?
[12:05] <GnarusLeo> chinese, japanese, the some to me :)
[12:05] <GNU_Style> gnomefreak, nothing :)
[12:06] <s|k> how do I search the repository from the terminal?
[12:06] <s|k> apt-get search or something?
[12:06] <Seveas> apt-cache search
[12:06] <Killgore> or aptitute
[12:06] <Killgore> or aptitude
[12:07] <s|k> thanks
[12:07] <carbo> another thing, does this mount loop thing require anything else to mount ISOs or is it like built-in?
[12:07] <s|k> how about getting dependencies for a build
[12:07] <Killgore> what parts do i edit of xorg.conf to make my mouse 3 buttons? atm its in 3 button emulation mode
[12:07] <s|k> what's the command for that?
[12:08] <Killgore> just asl for the file and it will tell you
[12:08] <Killgore> lol ask*
[12:08] <max-power> hi heres my problem i installed ubuntu on my mums computer today she just got home and her internet isnt working without acually being tehre i couldnt figure out the proglem is tehre an auto configure script like the one in the installer to automatically get adsl working?
[12:08] <Killgore> pppoeconf?
[12:09] <Killgore> thats pretty automatic
[12:09] <max-power> and thats for an adsl modem/router
[12:09] <s|k> Killgore: for a build from source
[12:09] <Killgore> is it adsl or dialup
[12:09] <bimberi> s|k: apt-get build-dep
[12:09] <Killgore> oh
[12:09] <max-power> sorry i dont know too much about networking ubuntu has always done it for me on install
[12:09] <Killgore> apt-get doesnt use source does it?
[12:09] <Killgore> max-power: is it adsl or dialup
[12:09] <max-power> and adsl did work here its just not at her house
[12:09] <max-power> and in windows it worked fine
[12:10] <topyli> Killgore: it does, for building packages
[12:10] <s|k> bimberi: thanks
[12:10] <s|k> btw
[12:10] <s|k> is libc6 the same as glibc ?
[12:11] <bimberi> Killgore: yes it does, to get the source code for a package
[12:11] <anstei> max-power: try to ping your router
[12:12] <Killgore> max-power: are you not at the computer? you said something about you mum
[12:12] <max-power> im on the phone to her
[12:12] <nick|away> where are the fonts located in ubuntu?
[12:12] <max-power> trying to get her internet working
[12:12] <zoot_> hi - anyone know how to set X resolution in the .xsession or .xinitrc files? i'm trying to launch a dedicated app only with a window manager (ubuntu breezy with LTSP)
[12:13] <Killgore> max-power: so its an adsl modem or a router
[12:13] <koad> hi,guys
[12:13] <Killgore> max-power: and is it usb or adsl
[12:13] <max-power> adsl
[12:13] <Killgore> max-power: and is it usb or ethernet
[12:13] <max-power> via network cord
[12:13] <zoot_> and.. can set the resolution from within xfce, but when launching the wm and app from the .xsession file, it defaults to a lower res
[12:14] <Killgore> max-power: do you know about pppoeconf?
[12:14] <max-power> nothing to dow ith that
[12:14] <Killgore> max-power: so its already configured but it wont connect to the internet?
[12:15] <max-power> everything is how it should be but firefox just times out
[12:15] <max-power> \it sends and recieves data
[12:15] <Killgore> so you can ping somewhere on the internet?
[12:15] <max-power> no
[12:16] <Killgore> then its not sending and receiving data
[12:17] <koad> hi,seveas
[12:17] <carbo> how do I mount a directory? not an ISO, just a normal directory that I want to appear as a drive
[12:17] <nickncicnkcnicnc> you mean firefox doesn't load up?
[12:18] <max-power> ok
[12:18] <Killgore> max-power: if firefox is timing out then you have no internet
[12:18] <max-power> i figured out it can ping and resolve hostnames
[12:18] <Killgore> max-power: usually
[12:18] <topyli> carbo: you don't
[12:18] <max-power> it resolves google
[12:18] <max-power> so now what?
[12:18] <Killgore> max-power: good start
[12:18] <GNU_Style> why
[12:18] <max-power> a firefox problem?
[12:18] <Killgore> max-power: open firefox
[12:19] <GNU_Style> seen nabiki?
[12:19] <carbo> topyli: ah well...
[12:19] <topyli> carbo: nothing on unix appears as a drive, everything shows up as just another directory
[12:19] <max-power> yep
[12:19] <koad> try other browser
[12:19] <Killgore> max-power: and type http://what-ever-the ip of google was
[12:19] <carbo> topyli: meh... okay, I want a normal directory in my home folder to be mounted like a cdrom device... is that possible
[12:19] <koad> max-power: do you use router?
[12:19] <GnarusLeo> http://66.102.9.99 <-- google
[12:19] <max-power> where can i change default gateway
[12:20] <max-power> never mind
[12:20] <max-power> amsn signs in
[12:20] <anstei> carbo: what's the use of that?
[12:20] <topyli> carbo: no, i don't even understand. if you mount a cd, it will appear as a directory, no?
[12:21] <Killgore> max-power: if msn works then it could be something to do with firefox. If you can run sudo apt-get update then the internet is definately working
[12:21] <carbo> topyli: not mount a cd, i know how to do that... i'm thinking like virtual drives... make a directory act like a cd drive that other programs can access
[12:21] <silvia> ola
[12:21] <anstei> carbo: you mean something like daemon tools on windows?
[12:22] <topyli> carbo: how does a cd drive act? programs can access directories, nothing else
[12:22] <carbo> anstei: not sure what that is :x
[12:23] <Killgore> carbo: what are you trying to acheive
[12:23] <leebo> hello,everybody
[12:23] <koad> carbo: daemon tools is a tool that mount your cd image files as your virtual drives
[12:23] <carbo> koad: yes that's probably it
[12:24] <carbo> koad: except now its not an ISO, i have the files in a directory
[12:24] <Plitskin> why is it that every package I try to install in Ubuntu always asks for an internet connection... ? :(
[12:24] <Killgore> carbo: then you cant do that
[12:24] <carbo> Killgore: ok...
[12:25] <Killgore> carbo: why would you need to mount them? the point of mounting an ISO is becase it is one big file and we need to see whats in it
[12:26] <GNU_Style> wats a peer?
[12:26] <GNU_Style> Killgore, wats a peer?
[12:26] <Killgore> in bittorent?
[12:26] <carbo> Killgore: Well, I'm trying to figure that out myself... I guess I didn't think of it... its just the difference between Windows and Unix concept of drives and directories I guess...
[12:26] <GNU_Style> Killgore, in IRC (Connection reset by peir)?
[12:26] <Killgore> you
[12:27] <troglo> italiani?
[12:27] <anstei> !it
[12:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:27] <Killgore> the peer is you in this situation
[12:27] <GNU_Style> Killgore, ic wats a ping pong then?
[12:27] <carbo> a little hollow plastic ball, of course
[12:27] <CountZ> isn't the nvidia driver supposed to be called "nvidia"? on my system it tries "nv"...
[12:28] <Killgore> !ping
[12:28] <ubotu> pong
[12:28] <PhilKC> !pong
[12:28] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PhilKC
[12:28] <Killgore> the respose time of the server
[12:28] <GNU_Style> CountZ, nv is built into xorg and xfree86,
[12:28] <Killgore> i think
[12:28] <GNU_Style> !ping
[12:28] <ubotu> pong
[12:28] <PhilKC> !pong
[12:28] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PhilKC
[12:28] <CountZ> GNU_Style: so it is not the binary
[12:28] <Killgore> on another chan !ping would say something like <1ms - Get off my lap!
[12:29] <GNU_Style> CountZ, no its not "nvidia" is the binary
[12:29] <GNU_Style> wats ur card them?
[12:29] <anstei> GNU_Style: it's used to check whether your connection to the IRC server is still there
[12:29] <Killgore> there you go
[12:29] <GNU_Style> anstei, ic, thats a ping? and a pong?
[12:29] <anstei> GNU_Style: ping is what your client sends to the server - pong is the response
[12:30] <GNU_Style> anstei, ic thanks
[12:30] <Killgore> usefull i guess
[12:30] <m0s^> my name is Ping, i'm seraching for Pong. anyone seen ?
[12:30] <Killgore> my name is hans im looking for the arms
[12:31] <GNU_Style> Killgore, why do people hate being pinged?
[12:31] <m0s^> i like beeing pinged !
[12:31] <m0s^> ping me :D
[12:31] <gnomefreak> can you guys/girls bring this to off-topic please
[12:31] <Killgore> cos its like a DoS attack
[12:32] <Killgore> if you send them heaps of ping packets it can slow their internet down
[12:32] <Killgore> a lot at once
[12:32] <m0s^> can everyone send really large packets to my ip ?
[12:32] <m0s^> firewall1.driftbolaget.se
[12:32] <GNU_Style> Killgore, can I do that using script? can they ignore the pings?
[12:32] <Killgore> this guy did it at Uni when he got pissed that he couldnt join or cs server cos he was on linux
[12:33] <Killgore> dunno
[12:33] <m0s^> ^^
[12:33] <GNU_Style> m0s^, like cs?
[12:33] <m0s^> GNU_Style what ?
[12:33] <sethk> GNU_Style, you can ignore them, but they still use up bandwidth
[12:33] <GNU_Style> m0s^, is there a cs for linux? whithout using wine
[12:33] <m0s^> GNU_Style nope
[12:34] <m0s^> not that i heard of
[12:34] <kolss> use cedega
[12:34] <m0s^> cedega costs $$$ :(
[12:34] <GNU_Style> I want a pure linux port
[12:34] <Killgore> yer he got pissed and DoS our server
[12:34] <GNU_Style> no umulation
[12:34] <Killgore> doubt it
[12:34] <kolss> wine can run cs
[12:34] <GNU_Style> Killgore, can we ping a website to slow it down?
[12:35] <Killgore> i wouldnt
[12:35] <GNU_Style> kolss, still an emulator
[12:35] <GNU_Style> why>?
[12:35] <Killgore> thats a Denial-Of-Service attack and i think its illegal
[12:35] <kolss> cs is not for linux
[12:35] <silvia> ola
[12:35] <Killgore> and it never will be
[12:35] <m0s^> is there any good hl port ? i heard of it some years ago, but is i dead ?`
[12:36] <Killgore> you could get the cube engine and make cs in it
[12:36] <kolss> what is cube engine?
[12:36] <m0s^> it*
[12:36] <kolss> is it an emulator?
[12:36] <Killgore> no its a graphics engine
[12:36] <GNU_Style> no ubuntu questions here?
[12:37] <Killgore> every game needs a graphics engine
[12:37] <Killgore> cube is one
[12:37] <m0s^> how do i change my wlan ethernet card to "continous access mode" ? i think it's in "power save mode" bcuz i can only download in max 10kb/s :(
[12:38] <GNU_Style> downloading via bittorent is very slow why?
[12:38] <GNU_Style> I already used port forwarding
[12:39] <m0s^> GNU_Style it starts slow but usually gets higher
[12:39] <GNU_Style> m0s^, im and 30 k per sec
[12:39] <GNU_Style> m0s^, im at 30 k per sec very slow
[12:39] <m0s^> GNU_Style test filelist.org
[12:39] <m0s^> i get speeds over 1mb/s there
[12:39] <Killgore> GNU_Style: how many peers do you have?
[12:40] <Killgore> GNU_Style: is that y you were asking about peers before?
[12:40] <GNU_Style> Killgore, yah, im not sure it goes up and down
[12:41] <GNU_Style> Killgore, sometimes its at 3k persec with 3 peers only
[12:41] <Killgore> GNU_Style: what client are you using
[12:41] <dli> GNU_Style, bittorrent?
[12:41] <m0s^> it also depends how high u/l the peers have
[12:42] <m0s^> public trackers suck
[12:42] <GNU_Style> m0s^, wats a tracker in bit torrent
[12:42] <m0s^> GNU_Style a tracker is the page from where u get the .torrents
[12:42] <GNU_Style> Killgore, bittorent and utorrent all slow
[12:42] <Killgore> GNU_Style: did u do the speed test in utorrent
[12:43] <GNU_Style> how to do that?
[12:43] <Killgore> GNU_Style: but you need a lot of seeds otherwise the speeds will be slow
[12:43] <m0s^> free trackers such as thepiratebay.org sucks because the leechers dont share after they've downloaded
[12:43] <Killgore> 100+ seeds for optimal speed
[12:43] <Killgore> m0s^: i seed
[12:43] <m0s^> Killgore ;)
[12:43] <m0s^> but the majority on PTB doesnt
[12:44] <m0s^> the best are the invite trackers such as uk-t.org
[12:44] <Killgore> m0s^: i use torrentspy, do they have trackers? how do i get invites huh ;)
[12:45] <GNU_Style> m0s^, trackers and leachers wat are they?
[12:45] <m0s^> Killgore to get invites to uk-t.org you have to ask someone thats already a member really nice :D
[12:45] <m0s^> trackers = the page leechers = ppl that download a torrent
[12:45] <m0s^> leechers and seeders are almost the same thing
[12:46] <Killgore> trackers just point you where to get seeds dont they
[12:46] <m0s^> Killgore yeah
[12:46] <Killgore> leechers download more than they upload
[12:46] <m0s^> and a tracker is almost always a page
[12:46] <Killgore> bastards
[12:46] <PhilKC> ...
[12:46] <NigelS> does anyone else feel dumber for having witnessed this discussion? :)
[12:47] <PhilKC> NigelS, Nope :P
[12:47] <m0s^> NigelS ^^
[12:47] <Killgore> NigelS: what discussion? ours?
[12:47] <PhilKC> Doesn't freenode have policies against listing 'warez' sites etc?
[12:48] <m0s> philc the tracker page is not illegal itself
[12:48] <m0s> it's the users that are
[12:48] <PhilKC> ...
[12:48] <Killgore> yer
[12:48] <Kasei^> Kasei^ I want to install  bittorrent 4.0.4 but i cant
[12:48] <Kasei^> Kasei^ i mean i install it from deb
[12:48] <Kasei^> Kasei^ but it doesent work
[12:48] <m1an1ak> i set my laptop to go into hybernation when the lid is closed, once i pressed apply the machine hybernated and now wont start up
[12:48] <Kasei^> on kubuntu
[12:48] <Killgore> freenode as in this irc server
[12:48] <PhilKC> m0s, Ok, now ask the ubuntu project if it wants to be accosiated with such activities.
[12:48] <NigelS> guys this is an ubuntu support channel - there's a #ubuntu-offtopic for everything else ubuntuish
[12:49] <Killgore> Kasei^: you dont need to get it from debs
[12:49] <PhilKC> m0s, Because, by listing and chatting about them here, you are reflecting badly on the project.
[12:49] <Killgore> Kasei^: unless that is the latest clien
[12:49] <m0s> sharing is caring (L)
[12:49] <s|k> PhilKC: why don't you read the conversation first, not all bittorrents are illegal downloads
[12:49] <Kasei^> Killgore, yes but i heard i need something more tu run ot.
[12:49] <s|k> PhilKC: they're talking about a GNU program
[12:49] <m0s> u can download free software from torrents
[12:49] <Killgore> Kasei^: use sudo apt-get install bittorent
[12:50] <Killgore> Kasei^: from the command line
[12:50] <PhilKC> s|k, Then listing of sites isn't needed, is it?
[12:50] <m0s> i uploaded some notes to PTB yesterday so i could d/l it at home and spread it to others. That's noting illegal with that ?
[12:50] <s|k> PhilKC: go be a cop somewhere else
[12:50] <m0s> i didnt list
[12:50] <s|k> we don't need your bad vibe here
[12:50] <PhilKC> *sigh*
[12:50] <m0s> i just told him what a tracker was
[12:50] <Killgore> PhilKC: ok we apologise for telling people of torrent sites that hold illegal stuff but we needed examples
[12:50] <GNU_Style> i instaled xfce4 using synaptic, how can I remove all of it at its dependencies?
[12:51] <Killgore> sudo apt-get remove xfce4
[12:51] <nick|away> my programs, missing at the bottom bar
[12:51] <GNU_Style> Killgore, can I use synaptic?
[12:51] <nathanj> ~/join #ubuntu+1
[12:51] <Killgore> GNU_Style: yer
[12:52] <m0s> Killgore dont apologise. Trackers holds tons of stuff that are freeware
[12:52] <NigelS> GNU_Style: of course, just find it there
[12:52] <jawz> any1 help me how to install mp3 player on ubuntu?
[12:52] <Killgore> GNU_Style: it you untick xfce it will unistall the dependencies
[12:52] <NigelS> !mp3
[12:52] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:52] <m0s> :)
[12:52] <gnomefreak> GNU_Style: without uninstalling the depends by hand removing or even --purge will not get them
[12:52] <m0s> took me a while to understand why my mp3s didnt play ^^
[12:52] <NigelS> Killgore: no, it won't
[12:52] <GNU_Style> uit only removes xfce4 and there are still files like the fstab manager? is there a way to remove ti and free some space?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> aptitude if used to install it will get rid of the depends
[12:53] <nick|away> my apps disappear from the bottom bar???
[12:53] <jawz> coz mp3 need gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:53] <Killgore> non-free? but isnt the decoder free. See thats what i dont get, if the decoder is free y cant they inlcude it, I know they are trying to support oS stuff but mp3 is standard
[12:53] <m0s> nick|away u got virus ^^
[12:53] <jawz> i dunno how to install it..
[12:53] <hakan> hi
[12:53] <Tomcat_> Killgore: It's not free.
[12:53] <nick|away> m0s: installed today?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> nick|away: you removed the task bar?
[12:53] <redguy> Killgore: you have to pay license fee for using mp3
[12:53] <m0s> nick|away it was a joke ;)
[12:53] <Narodnjak> hi ppl
[12:53] <Killgore> Tomcat_: im sure it is
[12:53] <gnomefreak> where your apps dock when minimized?
[12:54] <NigelS> Killgore: the MP3 format *itself* is not free and in some jurisdictions it might not be legal to use free software to decode it
[12:54] <jawz> seems like it needs someting....
[12:54] <nick|away> i have xchat open, and i cant see it at the taskbar??
[12:54] <Tomcat_> Killgore: Even if it's free as in beer, it might not be free as in freedom because of patent and licensing problems.
[12:54] <jawz> use CTRL-ALT-DEL
[12:54] <Tomcat_> Killgore: Java doesn't cost anything either, but it can't be included because it's not free.
[12:54] <Killgore> oh
[12:54] <GTX> how do I install an smp kernel
[12:54] <GTX> the latest smp kernel
[12:54] <Killgore> i get ya know ;)
[12:54] <Narodnjak> can someone tell me does ubuntu LIVE have KDeveloper installed ?
[12:54] <jawz> yes.. maybe thats why ubuntu didnt pack the package into the standard installation
[12:55] <Killgore> Tomcat_: thanks for the clarification
[12:55] <NigelS> Tomcat_: that's not strictly speaking true, it could go in multiverse for example, but I think the Sun licence does not allow redistribution
[12:55] <nick|away> any idea?
[12:55] <geekmaster> anybody know of a utility that will let me assign a hotkey to a particular window?  like say I want a hotkey to a particular shell I have open?
[12:55] <GNU_Style> does SMP support HT?
[12:55] <jawz> any1 here heard about EASY UBUNTU???
[12:55] <Tomcat_> NigelS: Yeah, true.
[12:55] <s|k> jawz: I have
[12:55] <NigelS> GNU_Style: yeah
[12:55] <redguy> !easyubuntu
[12:55] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:56] <Killgore> i guess easyubuntu is better than automatix
[12:56] <Tomcat_> !automatix
[12:56] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:56] <s|k> stay away from automatix
[12:56] <Tomcat_> :-)
[12:56] <jawz> thx uboto
[12:56] <geekmaster> how anything could get easier than ubuntu I just don't know
[12:56] <skalpel> hi, i downloaded the latest version of ubuntu and burned the .iso file but my computer will not boot offf the disk, can someone tell me why?
[12:56] <Killgore> wish i had know that last nite when i guy wanted an automated program
[12:56] <s|k> ubotu: botsnack
[12:56] <ubotu> :)
[12:56] <nick|away> i can switch between programs using alt-tab combination but can't see at the taskbar
[12:56] <jawz> owww
[12:56] <jawz> sorry :P
[12:56] <redguy> !tell skalpel zbout burniso
[12:56] <Killgore> skalpel: what is the prompts you recive when booting?
[12:57] <Killgore> skalpel: does it mention BOOTING FROM ATAPI CDROM:
[12:57] <redguy> skalpel: read the link ubotu sent you about burning .iso files
[12:57] <skalpel> killgore: i recieved no prompt, it booted directly into windows instead of booting off the disc?
[12:57] <redguy> !tell tanuk zbout burniso
[12:57] <GTX> how do I install the latest smp kernel for my system
[12:57] <Killgore> tanuki: how did u burn it?
[12:57] <geekmaster> if you can't get the cd to boot, then you should stick with windows
[12:57] <ecen> hello, i awanted to know if there is a way to make a /boot partition in a system that is already installed. which software do i download to repartition the disk?
[12:57] <tanuki> redguy: i recievied no link from obotu
[12:57] <redguy> !tell tanuk about burniso
[12:57] <Tomcat_> tanuki: You need to set your BIOS to boot off the CD.
[12:57] <redguy> darn
[12:57] <redguy> !tell tanuki about burniso
[12:57] <redguy> try now
[12:57] <NigelS> tanuki: I assume your bios checks the CD before the HD
[12:58] <jawz> !easyubuntu
[12:58] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:58] <GTX> how do I install the latest smp kernel for my system
[12:58] <GTX> how do I install the latest smp kernel for my system
[12:58] <jawz> !mp3
[12:58] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:58] <bimberi> GTX: intel or amd?
[12:58] <GTX> bimberi, intel mate
[12:58] <tanuki> killgore: i burned it using nero
[12:58] <Tomcat_> GTX: Repeating doesn't help. :>
[12:58] <GNU_Style> if I see 2 processors in my pc does it mean its hyperthreading now?
[12:58] <GTX> I didnt mean to repeat that Tomcat_ :p
[12:58] <Tomcat_> :-)
[12:58] <Killgore> tanuki: you will have to change the boot order
[12:58] <redguy> GNU_Style: yup
[12:58] <nick|away> i cant see my running programs at the taskbar!
[12:58] <bimberi> GTX: install linux-686-smp
[12:58] <NigelS> GTX: search for the kernel image with SMP and 686 in it inside synaptic and install
[12:58] <GTX> ta bimberi
[12:58] <Killgore> tanuki: have you ever been into the BIOS before?
[12:59] <tanuki> killgore: are you sure? i never had to do that before
[12:59] <DarthShrine> I had probs with the smp kernel :/
[12:59] <tanuki> it usually boots up without me having to enter the bios
[12:59] <jawz> !ubuntu
[12:59] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[12:59] <GNU_Style> !smp
[12:59] <Tomcat_> tanuki: Can you boot off other CDs without changing any settings?
[12:59] <ubotu> [smp]  Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[12:59] <redguy> tanuki: does it boot from cd's?
[12:59] <GNU_Style> !HT
[12:59] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GNU_Style
[12:59] <jawz> !awards
[12:59] <GNU_Style> !Hyperthreading
[12:59] <ubotu> well, awards is http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubunturocks
[12:59] <ubotu> GNU_Style: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:00] <GTX> GNU_Style, smp is for ht to
[01:00] <redguy> tanuki: read ubotu's wiki link. maybe you burned the iso inproperly
[01:00] <Killgore> tanuki: you have to press the delete key before it starts booting windows. As soon as the computer starts up keep pressing delte until you are faced with a blue screen (not the bad kind)
[01:00] <jawz> Killgore: ur funny hehehe
[01:00] <protocol1> !soda
[01:00] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, protocol1
[01:01] <protocol1> !beer
[01:01] <jawz> !cola
[01:01] <ubotu> jawz: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:01] <protocol1> !food
[01:01] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, protocol1
[01:01] <Seveas> !bot abuse
[01:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, bot abuse is a great way to get banned
[01:01] <Killgore> do the snack thing again
[01:01] <HOEHAVER> i was wondering how would you make a buel boot system for ubuntu and xp pro
[01:01] <GNU_Style> how to do this? 
[01:02] <HOEHAVER> is there any easy way to explain it
[01:02] <Seveas> HOEHAVER, just let the installer do it
[01:02] <Killgore> HOEHAVER: ill give u a good link for you
[01:02] <Seveas> HOEHAVER, it'll detect windows
[01:02] <redguy> !tell HOEHAVER about dualboot
[01:02] <jawz> im leaving.. thx 4 ur help guys... ubuntu rocks!!!  :P
[01:02] <ubunt1> Hi
[01:03] <Killgore> HOEHAVER: this is the guide i followed
[01:03] <ubunt1> I have a problem
[01:03] <Killgore> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> jawz:
[01:03] <ubunt1> I did something very stupid
[01:03] <Killgore> o no
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> jawz: sometimes you need to wait more then 5min for someone to answer
[01:03] <redguy> ubunt1: what did you do?
[01:03] <ubunt1> I used usermod to modify the list of groups that my administrative user belongs to
[01:03] <Killgore> lol dont keep us in suspense
[01:03] <HOEHAVER> ok thanks ya'll
[01:03] <ubunt1> and now
[01:04] <ubunt1> sudo doesn't do anything 'administrative' anymore.
[01:04] <ubunt1> resuming
[01:04] <ubunt1> my administrative user
[01:04] <ubunt1> is missing something
[01:04] <ubunt1> very important
[01:04] <ubunt1> but I do not know what is it
[01:04] <ubunt1> any ideas?
[01:04] <redguy> ubunt1: boot in the rescue mode and use usermod to make your admin user members of the following groups 'adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev users lpadmin scanner admin'
[01:04] <Killgore> what did u type in usermod?
[01:05] <bimberi> ubunt1: administrative users need to be members of the 'admin' group
[01:05] <Killgore> lol focus ad is like initialD hahah
[01:05] <redguy> ubunt1: the default group name should be the same as the name of your admin user
[01:05] <ubunt1> i typed usermod -g <username> <groupname>
[01:06] <Killgore> dont spill the water Tak
[01:06] <GTX> how do I show what files /var/cache/apt/archives/eciadsl_0.10-1_i386.deb extracted
[01:06] <ubunt1> I though that that will add the <groupname> to the list of groups the user belongs to
[01:06] <redguy> ubunt1: useradd <username> <group> would do that
[01:06] <ubunt1> but it does replace the whole grouplist instead
[01:06] <protocol1> does anyone know of or have heard of someone getting 3D acceleration running on an intel video card in thier laptop?
[01:06] <ubunt1> oh thanks
[01:07] <ubunt1> I did not know that
[01:07] <redguy> ubunt1: ern, not useradd, adduser would do that
[01:07] <ubunt1> I'm not a unix expert
[01:07] <GnarusLeo> For some reason I cant view .jpg/.JPG files ..
[01:07] <ubunt1> so, how do I boot into rescue mode?
[01:07] <ubunt1> do I need the CD?
[01:08] <redguy> ubunt1: no, you should be able to choose rescue mode on on boot, in the GRUB menu
[01:08] <redguy> !tell ubunt1 about nicktab
[01:08] <anstei> ubunt1: press ESC while grub is booting
[01:08] <Killgore> just hit escape before grub finished
[01:08] <Killgore> dam
[01:08] <Killgore> beat me
[01:08] <redguy> anstei: the menu is off by default?
[01:08] <anstei> redguy: idk, honestly - for me it was off
[01:08] <ubunt1> redguy: I'm using gaim, the tab key doesn't work like on other IRC clients
[01:08] <Killgore> it depends
[01:09] <redguy> anstei: I am not sure either, just checking
[01:09] <ubunt1> redguy: oh well it does
[01:09] <Killgore> my dual-boot system had the menu but my single boot didnt
[01:09] <ubunt1> redguy: he he he he
[01:09] <redguy> ubunt1: :-)
[01:09] <ubunt1> redguy: has been years since the last time I had an IRC chat
[01:09] <anstei> Killgore: that could be the decision point between showing and not showing the menu in grub 
[01:10] <ubunt1> redguy: during the nineties I used it almost daily... before this dark times...
[01:10] <Killgore> yer because if there is only one os its not much point in having the menu
[01:10] <redguy> ubunt1: anyway, if you don't see tha menu during boot you should be able to enable it hitting esc as anstei and Killgore said
[01:11] <tie> hii
[01:11] <redguy> Killgore: except for going into rescue mode :-)
[01:11] <mark_> hello I just installed the ati driver from they're website and cannot find the aticonfig can anyone help please
[01:11] <Killgore> redguy: yer but hopefully a normal user wont have to do that
[01:11] <redguy> !tell mark_ about ati
[01:11] <gnomefreak> !ati
[01:11] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:12] <redguy> mark_: follow the guide ubotu sent you to have ati working
[01:12] <YogSothoth> Hello !
[01:12] <YogSothoth> I'm moving totaly from Windows and my last task in to find a way to export my vidos to WMV so they can be played directly in web pages. Or, even better, to find a format to replace WMV. That means a format that can be embeded in a web page, with video and sound streaming, and easilly played with major players like WMP, on Windows/MacOS/Linux. Any idea?
[01:12] <mark_> okies thanks
[01:12] <jorisslob> !grub
[01:12] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:12] <GTXps> Is there an ip tables script I can get for /etc/init.d/iptables
[01:12] <GTXps> etc
[01:12] <T> I've been backing up files from the hard drive to a windows share as root through the file browser.  It silently fails when I try to copy the /root/* off the hard drive.  Anyone have an idea?  I'm using the livecd 5.10.
[01:12] <Killgore> YogSothoth: pretty high aspirations, but ive never done anything like that so sorry
[01:13] <ubunt1> redguy: thanks very much for your help!
[01:13] <rob> GTXps, if your keen, try firehol (not sure if Ubuntu has it though)
[01:13] <ubunt1> redguy: much appreciated!
[01:13] <GTXps> rob, no thats crap
[01:13] <redguy> !tell GTXps about iptables-initscript
[01:13] <nbound> !wine
[01:13] <ubunt1> bye all, UBUNTU rulez!
[01:13] <rob> GTXps, no it isn't :)
[01:13] <GTXps> yes it is
[01:13] <GTXps> !initscript
[01:13] <ubotu> hmm... initscript is make your own initscripts based on /etc/init.d/skeleton. To enable your initscript use update-rc.d.
[01:13] <rob> ok, explain why its 'crap'
[01:13] <GTXps> its for noobs
[01:13] <GTXps> anyway
[01:13] <Killgore> T: why are you backing up from a live-cd
[01:13] <GTXps> bb in abit
[01:14] <rob> GTXps, yet you come in here looking for someone to give you a written iptables script?
[01:14] <rob> heh ok
[01:14] <GTXps> normaly there included in most OS's
[01:14] <T> I killed by gentoo install (ahem, embarassingly), by unmerging critical files, and I'm trying to get the data off so I can install ubuntu (which was scheduled, just not urgent).
[01:15] <rob> Ubuntu doesn't need one, there are no services running on a default install
[01:15] <Killgore> T: what data do you need off it?
[01:15] <redguy> GTXps: consider shorewall
[01:15] <GTXps> no
[01:15] <GTXps> all my stuff is configured with iptables
[01:15] <GTXps> its a firewall server
[01:15] <GTXps> none guip
[01:15] <rob> so, try google then
[01:15] <GTXps> gui*
[01:15] <redguy> GTXps: consider shorewall
[01:15] <T> I've got some notes hanging out in my /root/* directory.  I've copied quite a bit of the rest already.
[01:15] <GTXps> no lol
[01:15] <jorisslob> I'm having trouble getting Ubuntu to boot. I have three harddisks, two of which have Windows XP PRO on it, and I wanted a third Ubuntu disk. I followed the standard install CD instructions, but GRUB wasn't invoked when I restarted the system. I just got to the standard which Win XP PRO do you want to start menu. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:16] <T> I can view the files without problem, but it wont copy them.
[01:16] <redguy> GTXps: no gui required for shorewall
[01:16] <redguy> GTXps: you can implement fairly complex things with it
[01:16] <GTXps> redguy, as i said all my stuff is done in iptables
[01:16] <anstei> !grub
[01:16] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:16] <redguy> GTXps: if not, make your initscript
[01:16] <rob> I think the problem is there is no gui that GTXps can use, so he thinks everything sucks
[01:16] <GTXps> not more than iptables itself
[01:16] <GTXps> rob, no I dont want a gui rofl
[01:16] <Killgore> T: can u copy them individually
[01:16] <GTXps> I just want an init script
[01:16] <rob> roll your own
[01:16] <cyphase> is it possible to get libdvdcss into one of the repos?
[01:16] <jorisslob> I have read the GrubHowto's, but it didn't seem to cover this issue...
[01:17] <T> No.  It drags over, like it is going to, but then doesn't do anything.
[01:17] <GTXps> dunno how to stop and start iptables
[01:17] <cyphase> universe/multiverse/restricted
[01:17] <rob> GTXps, well, start googling then
[01:17] <YogSothoth> Thank you Killgore :-) Are you editing videos and putting them on the web?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> !libdvdcss
[01:17] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:17] <gnomefreak> cyphase: ^^^
[01:17] <cyphase> gnomefreak, yes, i know, i have it installed already
[01:17] <cybergypsy> is there a recomended way to install asterisk - apt-get or from source ?
[01:17] <redguy> GTXps: then use in your initscript iptables-save, iptables-restore
[01:17] <nbound> anyone wanna help with a wine problem, noones home at #winehq
[01:18] <redguy> nbound: did you try #wine ?
[01:18] <cyphase> but it'd be nice if it was in a repo
[01:18] <gnomefreak> cyphase: ohhhh you wanna know if they can add it to universe or multiverse?
[01:18] <cyphase> or restricted even
[01:18] <gnomefreak> cyphase: it is in Seveas repos
[01:18] <nbound> redguy, no, but i assume thatd be a real wine channel
[01:18] <redguy> nbound: most propably
[01:18] <cyphase> i mean, the gstreamer mp3 plugin is "illegal" too
[01:18] <cyphase> but it's there
[01:19] <nbound> just like that w32codecs package
[01:19] <jpcf> hi
[01:19] <cyphase> yea, that too
[01:19] <rob> cyphase, its a sticky issue
[01:19] <Killgore> oh no not this agin
[01:19] <cyphase> rob, i know
[01:19] <jpcf> hi everyone
[01:20] <redguy> jpcf: ask your question
[01:20] <cyphase> lol
[01:20] <jpcf> does somebody know how to instal JRE1.5 in ubuntu?
[01:20] <Killgore> hehe
[01:20] <Killgore> right to the point
[01:20] <redguy> !tell jpcf about java
[01:20] <gnomefreak> !javadebs
[01:20] <redguy> need... more... questions...
[01:21] <Killgore> i know its addictive
[01:21] <jpcf> I want to run some Java software...
[01:21] <Killgore> i just wish i knew a bit more
[01:21] <jorisslob> Anyone know any issues with bootloader install and dual windows boot?
[01:21] <mark_> well none of those links pertained to my question thanks anywayz
[01:21] <jpcf> especifically I want to run chess clients
[01:21] <Killgore> jorisslob: no
[01:21] <redguy> jorisslob: no
[01:21] <rob> jorisslob, install windows first if you can
[01:21] <rob> then install Linux
[01:21] <Killgore> jpcf: you will need java. Use synaptic or apt-get
[01:22] <jorisslob> I have the two windows installed first, then I tried Ubuntu, it said I saw a windows
[01:22] <jpcf> but I cant find java vm in Synaptic
[01:22] <jpcf> ...
[01:22] <Killgore> jre?
[01:22] <jorisslob> I did a standard Grub install on the MBT, but it didn't turn up when I restarted
[01:22] <redguy> jpcf: reat the link ubotu sent you
[01:22] <Killgore> did u search for java
[01:22] <Killgore> oh have you changed your repositories?
[01:23] <jpcf> how do I change my repositories?
[01:23] <Killgore> i guess not then
[01:23] <Killgore> is java in the default repositories? anyone?
[01:23] <jorisslob> Maybe I should do it by hand? Is there a complete newbie guide to setting GRUB by hand?
[01:23] <redguy> jorisslob: what did "turn up" then? windows boot logo?
[01:23] <jorisslob> Without using the installer?
[01:23] <jorisslob> It turned up the menu to choose between the two windows
[01:23] <gnomefreak> Killgore: its in multiverse
[01:24] <jpcf> ok thanks everyone
[01:24] <T> Ah hah!  Got it.  If anyone else has issues copying a folder, they need to set the executable bit on the folder.
[01:24] <geek|sauce> what is the command to unpack/instal a *.DEB package?
[01:24] <bimberi> !grub
[01:24] <jorisslob> The windows still work fine, but I can't approach Ubuntu
[01:24] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:24] <redguy> !tell jorisslob about grub
[01:24] <anstei> geek|sauce: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[01:24] <gnomefreak> geek|sauce: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:25] <geek|sauce> thanks
[01:25] <redguy> geek|sauce: dpkg -x to extract -i to install
[01:25] <GnarusLeo> think he gets the point :)
[01:25] <gnomefreak> iirc no reason to extract a deb unless its in a zip or tar or something like that
[01:26] <jorisslob> Ok, I will keep messing a bit then
[01:26] <Killgore> T's example shows us y linux is so fun. Because a problem can help you learn new things about the OS
[01:26] <GnarusLeo> Killgore, whos T?
[01:26] <redguy> T left
[01:26] <Killgore> yer he did
[01:27] <Killgore> lol at mediawatch its such a great show
[01:28] <blaamann> Is there some way I can check my log files if there has been any traffic on port 25 from my Ubuntu box ? The central IT department at my unit told me that in the middle of the night there were some outgoing 25 port traffic.
[01:28] <geek|sauce> grrr... i'm trying to install ckermit, but it needs a package called libsocksd... is that in the repos?
[01:29] <redguy> blaamann: AFAIK traffic is not logged in ubuntu by default
[01:29] <Killgore> AFAIK????
[01:29] <gnomefreak> as far as i know
[01:29] <redguy> Killgore: as far as I know
[01:29] <Killgore> tru
[01:30] <ayeixha> hi
[01:30] <bimberi> !info libsocksd
[01:30] <ayeixha> have an issue with auto open dialogue
[01:30] <ubotu> libsocksd: (SOCKS library for packages built using libsocksd-dev), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.14-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 91 kB, Installed size: 248 kB
[01:30] <blaamann> redguy: ok, thanks
[01:30] <bimberi> geek|sauce: it's in universe
[01:30] <Killgore> that ubotu is so smart, and really quick at typing
[01:31] <redguy> blaamann: but it sounds fishy that there was outgoing traffic from your box. You should check your box with chkrootkit...
[01:31] <ayeixha> my dialogue buttons dont auto open in new xchat version
[01:31] <redguy> ubotu is a liar
[01:31] <ubotu> redguy: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:31] <Killgore> lol
[01:32] <freak101> heyy
[01:32] <blaamann> redguy: I will look into chkrootkit
[01:32] <neo911> i executed a find and i got the ff error, am i in trouble? thx    http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=14094
[01:32] <heatxsink> ls
[01:32] <heatxsink> oops
[01:32] <ayeixha> anyone?
[01:33] <ubushine> ayeixha: what do you mean by 'dialogue' buttons?
[01:33] <freak101> yah'
[01:33] <gnomefreak> neo911: that is a blank post
[01:33] <neo911> gnomefreak, huh?
[01:33] <redguy> neo911: doubtful, /proc is not a normal filesystem
[01:33] <gnomefreak> nvm it added to end of link :(
[01:34] <neo911> so getting that message is normal? redguy
[01:34] <gnomefreak> neo911: you have build-essential installed?
[01:34] <redguy> neo911: not sure, but it doesn't mean that any of your disks is broken
[01:35] <gnomefreak> iirc build-essential has the C/C++ header files
[01:35] <redguy> neo911: also, try using locate for fast searchiing of files
[01:35] <ayeixha> ok what i mean is in irc when someone private messages you its supposed to auto open a dialogue tab which this new version doesn not
[01:35] <redguy> neo911: much faster than find
[01:35] <Killgore> or grep
[01:35] <neo911> gnomefreak, yes i have build-essential, how is it related to my prob? thx
[01:36] <ubushine> ayeixha: back up your old .xchat directory then close and open xchat, try it again
[01:36] <gnomefreak> neo911: it looks like you are missing header files or dir with header files in it
[01:36] <neo911> redguy, k thx for the tip ill try locate
[01:36] <ayeixha> ubushine i already have the new version dont have old version backup
[01:37] <gnomefreak> nvm i didnt scroll all the way right
[01:37] <ubushine> ayeixha: back up this version, just in case this won't work, then you can just copy back. delete .xchat then open it again, it'll creat a new .xchat directory with new config files. it may work
[01:37] <freak101> heyy
[01:37] <redguy> neo911: you have to know that locate updates it's database one a day, so don't except it to find files that were installed or created recently. I recommend reading man locate and man updatedb
[01:38] <ayeixha> new here so sont know what to do
[01:38] <natasa> hi.... I have problems with my sound.... I just installed ubuntu, and do not know what to do now.... can someone help me plz....
[01:38] <gnomefreak> neo911: have you tried this locate socket.h
[01:38] <redguy> natasa: some might help you, but you have to give us more detail on your problem
[01:39] <natasa> okay... to sek
[01:39] <neo911> gnomefreak, not yet ill do... hangon ill try something out thx
[01:39] <aleitner> anybody else noticed cupsd sometimes using lots of cpu power and printing being really slow (on dapper)?
[01:39] <redguy> !dapper
[01:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:40] <aleitner> redguy: thanks!
[01:40] <Killgore> does chanel ubuntu-1 mean hoary?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Killgore: #ubuntu+1 is dapper
[01:40] <Killgore> gnomefreak: but following that logic ubuntu-1 would be about hoary
[01:41] <redguy> Killgore: I doubt it, AFAIK all hoary users are supposed to upgrade to breezy
[01:41] <gnomefreak> hoary is only supported till oct iirc
[01:41] <Killgore> my logic NOOOO!
[01:42] <Killgore> maybe then that guy will update his ubuntuguide
[01:42] <gnomefreak> Killgore: dont count on it
[01:43] <Hereford> What is the difference between hoary and breezy and whatever follows?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> you have everything in the "good" guides you wont need his
[01:43] <Killgore> new versions of things
[01:43] <Killgore> and tweaks lots of tweaks
[01:43] <gnomefreak> Hereford: packages  (kind of hard to answer)
[01:43] <ubushine> Hereford: kernel, programs, stability, bug fixes. what the hell do you mean?
[01:43] <natasa> here is my lspci -v  in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10901 and amixer -c0 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10902
[01:43] <ubushine> kernel, sorry
[01:43] <redguy> Hereford: what is the difference between firefox 1.0.7 and firefox 1.5 ?
[01:44] <Killgore> like dapper will have a graphical install rather than a text based one
[01:44] <sexcopter8000m> is there a profile manager thing for thunderbird?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> redguy: 1.5 is faster nad buggier?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:44] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:44] <redguy> hah
[01:44] <geek|sauce> ok, i succussfully installed ckermit, but now i can't find it in the menus nor can i run it in terminal.  how do i access it?
[01:44] <natasa> please someone look at it....
[01:45] <Hereford> My question is because I don't want to see Ubuntu (and Linux) go down the road to Renton where you have to rebuild everything every year.
[01:45] <redguy> natasa: I am, what is your problem again?
[01:45] <redguy> !tell nick|here about away
[01:45] <ubushine> Hereford: dapper is supported for 3 years on desktop and 5 years on server
[01:46] <Killgore> Hereford: no need to
[01:46] <HOEHAVER> does anyone know a website for downloading windows xp pro the corperate version
[01:46] <redguy> HOEHAVER: ??
[01:46] <Killgore> HOEHAVER: uhhh isnt that illegal?
[01:46] <shaumeur> www.microsoft.com ?
[01:46] <Zanga> :))
[01:46] <natasa> my problem is that I just installed ubuntu but my sound does not work :(
[01:46] <HOEHAVER> umm sure it is
[01:46] <redguy> www.google.com?
[01:47] <nick|here> redguy: my away messages are closed
[01:47] <shaumeur> why the ubuntu project integrates by default the NSA patch  ?
[01:47] <Zanga> HOEHAVER , try installing bitcomet , and then serch in www.torrentspy.com for the win xp torrent , and then good luck downloding for free
[01:47] <natasa> I copied my lspci -v and amixer -c0 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10901 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10902
[01:47] <yancheng> how can i check which process is using my alsa device?
[01:47] <Killgore> yer but dont say we told you anything
[01:47] <redguy> nick|here: thanks
[01:48] <Killgore> natasa: does the speaker ircon inthe upper right hand corner have a cross on it?
[01:48] <HOEHAVER> well.....some one else showed me a webpage for it but its downloading really f***** slow the corperate version doesnt cost anything
[01:48] <HOEHAVER> lol not cost anything
[01:48] <redguy> natasa: hmm, the speakers are turned on and connected properly?
[01:48] <hob> Hi, can Vino work under any other DM apart from gnome, and if so, how?
[01:48] <HOEHAVER> i havent slept all noght
[01:48] <HOEHAVER> but it does ask for a key and it doesnt make you register
[01:48] <natasa> the speakers is turned on and work properly....
[01:49] <yancheng> how can i check which process is using my alsa device?
[01:49] <Hereford> Can anyone here help with a question about Pine email client?
[01:49] <ubushine> natasa: is this a laptop?
[01:49] <natasa> no its not...
[01:49] <HOEHAVER> what file extention is .mds
[01:50] <HOEHAVER> is it like iso?
[01:50] <redguy> HOEHAVER: your questions are not related to ubuntu
[01:50] <redguy> HOEHAVER: are they?
[01:50] <HOEHAVER> lol sorry
[01:50] <HOEHAVER> but in a way it is
[01:50] <HOEHAVER> but its all good
[01:50] <HOEHAVER> take it easy
[01:50] <Killgore> !.mds
[01:50] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Killgore
[01:51] <Zanga> HOEHAVER , mds , iso the same , cd image
[01:51] <HOEHAVER> ok thats what i was wanting to hear
[01:51] <HOEHAVER> thanks
[01:51] <Zanga> good luck
[01:51] <ubushine> natasa: try somewhere here: http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php
[01:52] <Killgore> media descriptor file
[01:52] <Killgore> its like the image format that alchol uses isnt it?
[01:53] <Zanga> Killgore , i think so
[01:53] <Hereford> Problem:  Pine (still favorite email) worked with RedHat and Debian and even Win98 but under Ubuntu it grabs my local login ID rather than the email address known to the server.  I am baffled.
[01:53] <m1an1ak> i think i got a serious problem
[01:53] <m1an1ak> with my laptop
[01:54] <Killgore> go on
[01:54] <m1an1ak> i changed a setting in the laptop control applet, to set when lid closed to hibernate instead of tuen off, now it wont boot into kde at all
[01:55] <Killgore> go on
[01:55] <redguy> Hereford: you might have to configure it in .pinerc or something similar. I am not a pine user so I can't help you more...
[01:55] <Killgore> it wont boot?
[01:55] <m1an1ak> no
[01:55] <m1an1ak> it goes through the log in screen
[01:55] <Killgore> so does grub come up?
[01:55] <m1an1ak> yep
[01:55] <Killgore> so you can get to kdm
[01:55] <m1an1ak> yes
[01:56] <tanuki> can someone tell me how to install a metacity theme?
[01:56] <gizmo101> heyy anyone here have msn ?
[01:56] <Hereford> redguy:  Thanks anyway.  I've been fumbling all night and thought I'd try here too.
[01:56] <m1an1ak> i started up in recovery mode, then when rebooting i notices suspended processes failed to terminate
[01:56] <Killgore> ohhh
[01:56] <Killgore> i think your session is still active
[01:56] <Killgore> from when u closed the lid
[01:57] <m1an1ak> thats the thing i havent closed the lit yet, it just turned off,
[01:57] <m1an1ak> but what you say is close to whats going on i think
[01:57] <Google_Firefox> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[01:57] <Killgore> wtf ws that
[01:57] <tanuki> can someone tell me how to install a metacity theme?
[01:58] <tanuki> it tells me the file format is invalid
[01:58] <tanuki> when i try to drag it into the theme details window
[01:58] <sexcopter8000m> anyone know the command for the profile manager thingie for firefox and/or thunderbird?
[01:58] <Killgore> only on XP
[01:59] <m1an1ak> maybe i need to log in to recovery ps -A and kill the process' that were runnign when it stopped
[01:59] <Killgore> you could try that
[01:59] <mattias> !mp3
[01:59] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:59] <Killgore> shutup ubotu
[01:59] <Killgore> awww
[01:59] <natasa> hi... lsmod gives me what u can see in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10903 ... it seems that sis900 and soundcore is found on my system....
[02:00] <Google_Firefox> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[02:00] <Killgore> what the hell is that
[02:00] <Killgore> stupid bot
[02:01] <ben42> sexcopter8000m mozilla-thunderbird -ProfileManager
[02:01] <sexcopter8000m> ben42, legend, thanks
[02:01] <Plitskin> why is it that when you install a driver, you have to recompile the kernel? Or is it only when you don't have a package manager?
[02:02] <Nolt> hello
[02:02] <Nolt> who can help ne ?
[02:02] <Nolt> me*
[02:02] <m1an1ak> Killgore: stopping deferred execution scheduler failed
[02:02] <Hobbsee> !tell Nolt about ask
[02:02] <Plitskin> Nolt: Say your question
[02:03] <Plitskin> and someone please answer mine too :D
[02:03] <Nolt> Hobbsee: so im looking for an aplication same as sql 2000 but for ubuntu
[02:03] <Nolt> there is somthing like this ?
[02:03] <Plitskin> MySQL
[02:03] <Plitskin> MySQL is the thing... I guess...
[02:04] <Nolt> nop
[02:04] <Nolt> its mysql not SQL SERVER
[02:04] <ali_> is there any list of 100% supported laptops on ubuntu?
[02:04] <dj-fu> mysql is a sql server
[02:04] <Hobbsee> !laptop
[02:04] <ubotu> well, laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[02:04] <Hobbsee> ali_: ^, but it's not terribly up to date
[02:04] <Plitskin> lolz oh you said you're lookinf for an application the same as sql 2000
[02:04] <Hobbsee> best bet is a live cd, or just try it out
[02:04] <Nolt> ya know this sql must connect with server by the odcb
[02:04] <Plitskin> so I thought you were just looking for another database server
[02:05] <ali_> Hobbsee: th.x
[02:05] <Plitskin> hmmm... I don't think I can help you with that then...
[02:05] <Nolt> Plitskin: yup i think but i dont know if there is any app like this
[02:05] <Nolt> ok :)
[02:05] <tanuki> can someone please tell me how to install themes for ubuntu?
[02:07] <schmirgo> hi, how can i change the visudo command to use vim instead of nano. i really can't stand nano...besides that i always have 'i' and ':' in my visudo when using nano.
[02:07] <schmirgo> how can i change that to use vi?
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[02:07] <Killgore> Nolt: have u seen PostgreSQL?
[02:08] <DarthShrine> Um.
[02:08] <takedown> schmirgo: just set $EDITOR to vim
[02:08] <Killgore> nooo not vim
[02:08] <schmirgo> takedown, ok
[02:08] <mael_> no BenC around?
[02:08] <takedown> why not?
[02:08] <takedown> vim rule the world :)
[02:10] <ben42> schmirgo look at /etc/alternatives and change one or more of the symbolic links
[02:10] <schmirgo> ben42, thanks, ill try it
[02:10] <Nolt> Killgore: this sql should look like on this screens: http://homepage.eircom.net/~aiki/MU/setup.htm
[02:10] <Zanga> !sound
[02:10] <Zanga> how do i find out about sound
[02:10] <Zanga> ??
[02:10] <ubotu> I heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[02:10] <Zanga> tekedown , we neighbours :)) just 1 country away
[02:10] <m1an1ak> what would be the configuration file that hass the hibernate and suspend settings?
[02:10] <Zanga> :))
[02:10] <Zanga> !tell Zanga sound
[02:11] <R> hello
[02:11] <R> I got a question about ubuntu 5.10
[02:11] <Killgore> takedown: i really dont like vim
[02:11] <dejx> can i upgrade to dapper with apt-get ?
[02:12] <schmirgo> its close to blasphemy to call it visudo and use nano...
[02:13] <R> I tryed to connect my two computers, one of them has WinXp Pro and the other one Ubuntu 5.10, i could not make a connection between them, is it possible to make a connection between those?
[02:13] <takedown> Killgore: if you dont like vim other people cant use him? :)
[02:13] <Killgore> Nolt: ive only just started using it, but PostgreSQL with pgAdmin3 looks exactly like that
[02:13] <schmirgo> R, yes... you have to use samba
[02:13] <Killgore> hehe
[02:14] <R> k
[02:14] <schmirgo> R, i guess you want t oshare files and such
[02:14] <R> yes
[02:14] <takedown> schmirgo: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[02:14] <takedown> just choose vim here
[02:15] <schmirgo> takedown i just put the $EDITOR in my bashrc ^^ that will do ;)
[02:15] <takedown> ah, k just i thinking that dont work :)
[02:18] <tanuki> can someone help me? i moved over all my music from my windows partition to my ubuntu filesystem but i cannot play the files in rhythymbox. it says they are not audio stream
[02:18] <Killgore> !mp3
[02:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:19] <tanuki> thanks
[02:19] <variant> tanuki: what format are the files in?
[02:19] <tanuki> mp3
[02:19] <Killgore> woo i used the bot
[02:19] <variant> see the link
[02:19] <_Rappy_> I got a fella here, who wants ubuntu on an old laptop. It only got 64MB RAM. Is it even worth trying to install it?
[02:19] <Nolt> Killgore: thanks
[02:20] <Killgore> Nolt: is that what you wanted?
[02:20] <redguy> _Rappy_: xubuntu might be usable
[02:20] <Killgore> _Rappy_: definately
[02:20] <_Rappy_> redguy : tnx
[02:20] <_jason> _Rappy_: maybe xubuntu or even just fluxbox
[02:20] <Killgore> or blackbox
[02:20] <Killgore> xubuntu wont be i dont think
[02:20] <R> How do i get in contact with Ubuntu developers?
[02:20] <Nolt> Killgore: yea i think, i will must test if this works :P
[02:20] <Killgore> depends what processor speed is it _Rappy_
[02:21] <_jason> R: the mailing list
[02:21] <Nolt> Killgore: on ubuntu i can use ODCB ?
[02:21] <Killgore> Nolt: i only know about it because we are doing databases at uni :P
[02:21] <_jason> R: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/
[02:21] <Nolt> :)
[02:21] <redguy> Nolt: sure you can
[02:21] <Nolt> :)
[02:21] <dejx> can i upgrade to dapper with apt-get ?
[02:21] <_Rappy_> Killgore : it's a 5 y.o. laptop, I haven't bothered to check, but don't expect it to be much. Runs slow with Win2K
[02:21] <Nolt> i need somthing special for odcb's ?
[02:21] <redguy> !info odbc-postgresql
[02:21] <_jason> !upgrade
[02:21] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:21] <ubotu> odbc-postgresql: (ODBC driver for PostgreSQL), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 1:08.00.0101-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 148 kB, Installed size: 408 kB
[02:22] <Nolt> ic :)
[02:22] <Nolt> thanks
[02:22] <Killgore> im on a 5yr old PC right now ;)
[02:23] <Killgore> _Rappy_: trust me you can get ubuntu to run on anything
[02:23] <Nolt> Killgore: hehe my pc have hmm 4 years :P
[02:23] <Killgore> what the hell am i thinking!! this PC is 7 years old
[02:24] <dj-fu> ohhh! i like it like that, slow motion for me
[02:24] <Nolt> lol :P
[02:24] <Killgore> _Rappy_: do you want some hints on getting it to work?
[02:24] <tanuki> can someone tell me why i cannot play mp3 files in rhythymbox?
[02:25] <Killgore> !MP3
[02:25] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:25] <_jason> tanuki: visit the wiki page ubotu just said
[02:25] <tanuki> i did, but for some reason i cannot get the gsteramer plugin it suggested
[02:26] <schmirgo> tanuki, try a different player maybe if it doesnt matter which player
[02:26] <dj-fu> enable the multiverse and universe, first
[02:26] <tanuki> i did that
[02:26] <Killgore> xmms will play them
[02:26] <Killgore> and vlc
[02:26] <tanuki> well, universe anyway
[02:26] <schmirgo> i also use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[02:26] <dockane> hi all ... am experiencing problems with the icon set of gnome unter my x86 breezy installation. the error messages are in german, but maybe somebody knows how to fix it : http://phpfi.com/109573
[02:26] <sarthi> indiac glyphs (Gujarati)  not reading very well in Breezy so can anybody help me?
[02:26] <schmirgo> or try xfmedia
[02:26] <_jason> tanuki: in a terminal do 'sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad' and paste the command and output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link
[02:28] <tanuki> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10904
[02:28] <Killgore> Nolt: try asking in here
[02:28] <Nolt> ok i get anserv :P
[02:28] <_jason> tanuki: are you using dapper or breezy?
[02:28] <sarthi> indiac glyphs (Gujarati)  not reading very well in Breezy so can anybody help me?
[02:28] <Nolt> i wanted register but hmm nick name is already reg ...
[02:29] <fec> how to see ubuntu version that installed ?
[02:29] <tanuki> _jason, i am using dapper dan i believe
[02:29] <_jason> dapper dan :)
[02:29] <_jason> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly dapper
[02:29] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: (GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.10.2-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 161 kB, Installed size: 448 kB
[02:30] <_jason> tanuki: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin
[02:30] <tanuki> ok
[02:30] <redguy> fec: cat /etc/issue
[02:31] <tanuki> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10906
[02:31] <sarthi> indiac glyphs (Gujarati)  not reading very well in Breezy so can anybody help me?
[02:31] <sarthi> indiac glyphs (Gujarati)  not reading very well in Breezy so can anybody help me?
[02:31] <fec> thx redguy
[02:32] <_jason> tanuki: interesting, try 'sudo apt-get update' and then installing again.  If it still doesn't work, you'll have to visit #ubuntu+1 as that is the dapper channel anyway and they will know more
[02:32] <tanuki> ok
[02:32] <rambo3> !cury
[02:32] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo3
[02:32] <Nolt> who of u use xmms2 ?
[02:33] <fec> in 5.10 , if i install apache2 from synaptic, will it also bring php5 ?
[02:33] <redguy> fec: no
[02:33] <rambo3> why would it
[02:33] <_jason> tanuki: wait, I see a problem in your /etc/apt/sources.list.  Does your line 30 really contain '$' like that?
[02:33] <fec> redguy, no php will be installed?
[02:33] <redguy> fec: php is not a part of apache
[02:33] <redguy> !tell fec about lamp
[02:34] <useruser> fec: just install php if you want php
[02:34] <Killgore> Nolt: Havent heard of xmms2
[02:34] <hawaisurf> hi! I have a internetconnection of 10Mbits/s but when I download files or pictures whatever on icq or msn is going really slowly....have I to change properties connection somewhere?
[02:34] <redguy> fec: read the link ubotu sent you
[02:34] <fec> redguy, on 5.04 when i install apache2, php4 is installed, i swear
[02:34] <fec> redguy, thx
[02:34] <R> /server add -auto -ircnet EFNet irc.inet.tele.dk
[02:34] <tanuki> _jason, no, it does not.
[02:34] <Nolt> Killgore: go to home page of xmms u can found more infos about xmms2 there
[02:35] <_jason> tanuki: k, try #ubuntu+1 then
[02:36] <carbo> how do i install OpenGL? I have successfully installed Warcraft III using wine but it won't run in opengl mode and asks me to ensure I have OpenGL installed.
[02:36] <Killgore> hawaisurf: those protocols are slow becuase you are downloading off another person
[02:36] <Killgore> hawaisurf: whos upload is not very good; therefore your downloads will be slow
[02:36] <fec> carbo, what video card u use?
[02:37] <carbo> fec: an ATI Radeon X700
[02:37] <fec> carbo, have u installed that X700 driver?
[02:37] <hawaisurf> Killgore: ok then you mean at is nothing wrong with my connection settings? cause I think even the webradio streaming is going kinda slow too..
[02:37] <vincenz> How can I have multiple applications use sound
[02:37] <vincenz> ffor instance if I have xmms open and someone tries to call with skype
[02:38] <carbo> fec: is that xorg-driver-fglrx? I have that installed I think
[02:38] <vincenz> or if some application beeps
[02:38] <vincenz> I always get "sound driver busy"
[02:38] <Killgore> hawaisurf: probably nothing is wrong
[02:38] <redguy> !tell vincenz about dmix
[02:38] <redguy> vincenz: try the howto ubotu sent you
[02:38] <hawaisurf> Killgore: ok thxs
[02:39] <Killgore> hawaisurf: try this http://www.dslreports.com/stest
[02:39] <vincenz> redguy: I already use alsa
[02:39] <carbo> fec: well I have the package at least.. how do I ensure I'm using those drivers?
[02:39] <rambo3> vecenz fix your .asoundrc file
[02:39] <hawaisurf> Killgore: cool I check it out..
[02:41] <GTX> how do I install GD Libary?
[02:41] <Killgore> Nolt: xmms2 isnt quite finished yet
[02:42] <Nolt> Killgore: yes its beta
[02:42] <fec> can i install ubuntu on iBook?
[02:42] <Killgore> Nolt: xmms works fine for me right now :)
[02:42] <Killgore> fec: yep
[02:42] <Nolt> fore me too :P
[02:43] <Killgore> fec: need PPC version tho
[02:43] <fec> can i install ubuntu on iBook?
[02:43] <Nolt> Killgore: hmm but you know how can i change style of font and codeing in interface of xmms ?
[02:43] <fec> Killgore, pardon me?
[02:44] <Killgore> Nolt: no ive never tried that so sorry
[02:44] <Nolt> ok
[02:44] <Nolt> thx
[02:44] <Killgore> fec: you can do it but make sure you download the right version of ubuntu
[02:44] <fec> Killgore, Ok
[02:44] <fec> thx
[02:46] <vincenz> blegh
[02:46] <vincenz> skype and xmms don't play nice together
[02:46] <vincenz> even if youo're not calling or anything
[02:46] <vincenz> you have to kill skype
[02:46] <MenZa> XMMS?
[02:46] <vincenz> so that xmms knows the alsa is free
[02:47] <vincenz> and you can't call if you have music playing, or even if the chat window of skype beeps when text arrives
[02:47] <iceman> am running kubuntu "hoary" and would like to try a dist-upgrade to edubuntu, is it possible and how?
[02:47] <sfar-ubu> will KDE-icons work in gnome? :
[02:47] <sfar-ubu> maybe a stupid question, but you'll never know :>
[02:48] <Kezzer> perhaps
[02:48] <Kezzer> apt-get install edubuntu-desktop may work
[02:48] <redguy> iceman: upgrade to breezy first
[02:48] <redguy> !upgrade
[02:48] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:48] <redguy> iceman: then do what Kezzer said
[02:50] <iceman> redguy: ok having a look...
[02:50] <blaamann> Are there any security issues at the moment with regard to apache and php on Ubuntu ? I am trying to track a possible security breach on my ubuntu box regarding the use of port 25 outward in the middle of the night.
[02:50] <bungle> !kde
[02:50] <ubotu> kde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:51] <redguy> powiedzcie mi lepiej, czy curry w pacie mona zrobi z curry w proszku
[02:52] <anstei> blaamann: depends on what php-scripts you are using that can be accessed from outside
[02:52] <dockane> could somebody using ubuntu please check the values in gconf-editor -> / -> themes ? here everything is set to <schema> which imho prevents my gnome icon set from working
[02:52] <blaamann> anstei: Wordpress, and I see it is an old version :-(
[02:52] <Saecolum> Hello
[02:53] <Saecolum> need help
[02:53] <redguy> oos, sorry, wrong #
[02:53] <anstei> blaamann: if it is known that your version has security flaws, update to newest and check for rootkits etc on the box
[02:53] <Saecolum> Thats not a support channel?
[02:53] <anstei> !anybody
[02:53] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:54] <blaamann> anstei: Thanks. I've checked for rootkits, and now I am updating.
[02:54] <dockane> it looks like gconf registry lost all information regarding icons and applications. how do i fix it ?
[02:54] <dj-fu> anyone know what modification of 'netselect' the ubunti installer uses?
[02:54] <Saecolum> i intall ubuntu o/s but i have some bugs...
[02:55] <Saecolum> and i dont know how to use ubuntu
[02:55] <Saecolum> does ubunu has a window type screen and not a command line
[02:55] <Saecolum> and if yes... how to switch it
[02:56] <engla> I'm seriously sick and tired of having to watch all applications on ubuntu. Suddenly some application acts up and decides to consume lots of RAM (gam_server, mono or such) or 100% cpu (galeon, gnome-terminal etc).. then you have to kill it and restart it
[02:58] <Killgore> ppl should learn to wait for their questions to be answered
[02:58] <Xerbee> Could anyone try to help me with kernel modules? Im installing the DRI drivers for my ATI card but it complains about me not having the latest kernel modules. How do i upgrade them?
[02:59] <Killgore> no
[02:59] <Killgore> lol
[02:59] <Killgore> sorry
[02:59] <Killgore> wrong window
[02:59] <dockane> i am really fet up with this gnome icon issue .... nothing helpfull found with google, gnome support forum and channel, ubuntu related pages and so on
[03:00] <useruser> does ubuntu have a pretty gui to start and stop service?
[03:00] <thesonork> hi guys, .... i just got stuck with that: "how to change the default boot-device in GRUB" that menu.lst thing does not make any sense to my eyes,.... plz help...
[03:01] <useruser> s/service/services/
[03:01] <_jason> useruser: system > admin > services
[03:01] <redguy> !tell thesonork about grub
[03:01] <dockane> nor even somebody inhere who could check, if <schema> is the right value for every key beyond gconf-editor-> / -> Schema
[03:01] <useruser> _jason: ok, not in hoary it seems
[03:02] <sfar-ubu> will the package kde-icons-<whatever> work in gnome?
[03:03] <BludY> buondi
[03:03] <BludY> buond
[03:04] <dockane> getting ignored with a problem that does not seem to exist really scks
[03:04] <_jason> !patience
[03:04] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[03:04] <Killgore> im a volunteer!
[03:05] <dj-fu> dockane, yes, <schema> is the right value.
[03:07] <Frogzoo> can I run 'find' in some way to get a total for disk space used by .pdf files only?
[03:07] <bogumil> hi leute
[03:08] <_jason> Frogzoo: you can find all the pdf's and then pipe to du probably
[03:08] <tanuki> can someone please help me? i installed gstreamer plugins as instructed on the restricted formats page but still cannot get rhythymbox to recgonise my mp3's
[03:08] <_jason> tanuki: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[03:09] <_jason> please
[03:09] <Frogzoo> _jason: think xargs + du will do it - perfect, thx
[03:09] <IdleOne> Frogzoo, du -hs *.pdf maybe
[03:09] <rambo3> dont send him ther
[03:09] <dj-fu> He's not using dapper.
[03:09] <redguy> Frogzoo: find -name '*.pdf' | xargs du -sh might work
[03:09] <dj-fu> don' need to use xargs anymore
[03:09] <dj-fu> can use -exec flag
[03:09] <_jason> rambo3: why?
[03:09] <dj-fu> find / -name "*.pdf" -exec du -sh {} \;
[03:09] <Hexidigital> any suggested programs for ad blocking and pop up blocking?
[03:10] <dj-fu> Firefox.
[03:10] <f8> i need a way to open apps as su, do i have an option other than from the terminal?
[03:10] <Frogzoo> redguy: _jason it works, but doesn't total them - off to perl, sigh
[03:10] <rambo3> sudo nautilus might work
[03:11] <f8> kdesu from the run use to work in debian... anything like tha?
[03:11] <dj-fu> terminal should be the primary way of running su apps
[03:11] <born_> j #ubuntu-br
[03:11] <redguy> Frogzoo: no need, try find -name '*.php' | xargs du -shc | tail -1
[03:12] <blaamann> Is there a file that tells me what kind of services + port number are running on my system ?
[03:13] <kent> blaamann: no file,  but you can install for example nmap  to scan which ports are open.
[03:13] <dj-fu> blaamann, netstat -l
[03:13] <void^> netstat -l -p
[03:13] <blaamann> thanks
[03:14] <Frogzoo> redguy: splendid, thx
[03:14] <redguy> Frogzoo: np
[03:16] <Frogzoo> blaamann: lsofs primarily, & netstat or /proc
[03:17] <rambo3> blaamann you can use bum to see services
[03:18] <blaamann> rambo3: Never heard of bum, but I will check it out
[03:18] <Killgore> !bum
[03:18] <ubotu> bum is probably a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[03:19] <rambo3> just switch to advanced there
[03:19] <tanuki> can someone help me to install the thunderbird mail client?
[03:19] <tanuki> i dont see it anywhere in synaptic
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> tanuki: it's there
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> it might be called "mozilla-thunderbird"
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> correction - it IS called that
[03:21] <tanuki> oh, thank you
[03:21] <_jason> tanuki: heh did you get that mp3 thing sorted, I just looked at your /etc/apt/sources.list as I was closing it and realized you are using breezy, not ``dapper dan'' :)
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[03:21] <fiendskull9> Mornin everyone
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi fiendskull9
[03:22] <fiendskull9> Kamping_Kaiser, hey
[03:23] <fiendskull9> wow
[03:23] <fiendskull9> its dead here in the morning
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> or midnight - depending wher eyou live :D
[03:23] <iGotNoTime> :P
[03:23] <sfar-ubu> its dead here in the afternoons  :(
[03:23] <sfar-ubu> Kamping_Kaiser, word
[03:23] <sfar-ubu> :>
[03:23] <iGotNoTime> dead all the time here LOL
[03:24] <jordo23> Where can I post system output to have people look at it?
[03:24] <sfar-ubu> !pastebin
[03:24] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[03:24] <Killgore> !flood
[03:24] <ubotu> flood is, like, totally, for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol iGotNoTime
[03:24] <fiendskull9> sfar-ubu, damnit, u beat me
[03:24] <sfar-ubu> \o/
[03:24] <iGotNoTime> all a bunch of lurkers :P
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:25] <fiendskull9> iGotNoTime, yesterday about 6pm (central american) you could barely get a word in.
[03:25] <Kritical> Does anyone know a linux command to get mac address info for all ethernet devices?
[03:25] <iGotNoTime> me too :P I only idle to log for my own searching laziness
[03:25] <fiendskull9> !mac
[03:25] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[03:25] <fiendskull9> !ethernet
[03:25] <ubotu> fiendskull9: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:26] <Killgore> ifconfig Kritical
[03:26] <Sqwishy> how do you install cvs version of glitz
[03:26] <foureight84> when i mount my hdd to a folder in /mnt/
[03:26] <fiendskull9> !glitz
[03:26] <ubotu> fiendskull9: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:26] <fiendskull9> damnit ubotu
[03:26] <Sqwishy> !glitz
[03:26] <foureight84> how do i make it show up in the filesystem folder?
[03:27] <fiendskull9> it should be in /mnt/whatever folder you made to mount too.
[03:27] <foureight84> yea
[03:27] <GNU_Style> how do I tell GRUB where to find menu.list?
[03:27] <foureight84> i did that
[03:27] <jordo23> Does anyone know why I am getting the following when trying to upgrade my system?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10911
[03:27] <foureight84> but i want a harddrive icon to show up on say like my desktop
[03:27] <foureight84> or in the "computer" folder
[03:27] <Killgore> yer i never figured out how to do that
[03:28] <fiendskull9> foureight84, try dragging that mount folder to the desktop, and right clicking the folder, and giving a custom HD icon
[03:28] <foureight84> lol
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> foureight84: run gconf-editor, it's an option in there somewhere
[03:28] <foureight84> that's it?
[03:28] <Sqwishy> GNU_Style: mabye boot/grub/menu.lst (LST)
[03:28] <foureight84> okay looking at it
[03:28] <soonindallas> Kritical: run ifconfig
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> jordo23: your apache config file is screwed
[03:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> and can i sugest using dist-upgrade?
[03:29] <Kritical> Killgore & soonindallas: Thankyou very much =)
[03:29] <soonindallas> Kritical: mac addresses are listed as HWaddr
[03:29] <jordo23> Kamping_Kaiser: I don't even need apache on this machine, should I remove it too?
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> jordo23: i asume it's needed for phpldadmin
[03:30] <fiendskull9> foureight84, you can also do System | admin | Disks, and set the HDD/partition acsess to your preferred space.
[03:30] <GNU_Style> Sqwishy, I just moved my ubuntu installation to another logical partition. how do I reinstall grub?
[03:30] <jordo23> Kamping_Kaiser: I am trying to remove phpldapadmin but it will not let me
[03:30] <Killgore> GNU_Style: no need
[03:30] <Killgore> GNU_Style: just have to edit grub.conf
[03:30] <fiendskull9> Killgore, hell have to edit his menu.lst for grub to detect it
[03:30] <GNU_Style> Sqwishy, and tell  it to find /boot/menu/list on /dev/sda8 instead of /dev/hda1
[03:31] <fiendskull9> Killgore, and menu.lst, and set the kernel launch to a diff HD partition.
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> jordo23: sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 phpldapadmin < - should do it
[03:31] <Killgore> fiendskull9: yep
[03:31] <SithPottsy-0x80> where do i talk about xgl?
[03:31] <Sqwishy> GNU_Style: just a sec my brain (smart brother) left for a second
[03:31] <foureight84> yea i mounted the thing
[03:31] <fiendskull9> SithPottsy-0x80, here i gues ?
[03:31] <foureight84> it works
[03:31] <GNU_Style> Killgore, I have to cuz the bootloader on /dev/sda1 is winxp default so I have to ovewrite it to GRUB, how do I do that?
[03:31] <Frogzoo> SithPottsy-0x80: #ubuntu+1 might be able to help
[03:31] <jordo23> Kamping_Kaiser: Why dist upgrade?
[03:32] <SithPottsy-0x80> i thought there was ubuntu-xgl ?
[03:32] <fiendskull9> SithPottsy-0x80, no, only in dapper
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> jordo23: it tryies to resolv dependancies better then upgrade
[03:32] <SithPottsy-0x80> im dapper
[03:32] <jordo23> Kamping_Kaiser:   Thanks
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[03:33] <fiendskull9> that numnut left
[03:33] <Khamael> will upgrading from breezy to dapper be a pain? or just a matter of apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:33] <fiendskull9> Khamael, from what ive heard it takes awhile.
[03:33] <Killgore> GNU_Style: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:33] <_jason> Khamael: the latter
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> Khamael: shoudl be easy, but the odd thing might go a bit worng
[03:33] <phenex> a painfully long apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[03:34] <fiendskull9> phenex, well, it didnt take long on my other box as i have t1 :) and linux really pushes t1 to its peak.
[03:34] <phenex> i guess long is a relative term...
[03:34] <Khamael> a long apt-get dist-upgrade is ok, as long as it works
[03:34] <GNU_Style> Killgore, I mean I have to install GRUB to /dev/sda how to do that?
[03:36] <fiendskull9> creepy silence
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> *mwahahaha*
[03:37] <Killgore> oh
[03:37] <Killgore> umm hang on GNU_Style
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> fiendskull9: I'm not an assasin, I'm just evil :D
[03:37] <fiendskull9> Kamping_Kaiser, :P
[03:37] <foureight84> okay
[03:37] <GNU_Style> Killgore, okies
[03:37] <foureight84> i can't figure it out
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[03:37] <IdleOne> fiendskull9, what the language and please take offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:38] <Killgore> GNU_Style: sudo grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda
[03:38] <Sqwishy> yeah
[03:38] <foureight84> like when i click on the the "computer" icon on my desktop, there is a floppy disk, cd rom, dvd burner... that sort of thing. now i mounted hda1 and hdb1 to /mnt/C and /mnt/D, how do i make a drive icon linking to that?
[03:38] <Sqwishy> that sounds right
[03:39] <Killgore> doesnt ubuntu like things mounted in /media or it doesnt matter
[03:39] <foureight84> that doesn't matter
[03:39] <foureight84> you can mount it anywhere
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> Killgore: if someone made it that i had to mount paritions in /media i would go and disembowl them
[03:40] <Killgore> oookay then
[03:40] <foureight84> lol
[03:40] <GNU_Style> Killgore, ok will try
[03:40] <Killgore> can i mount it in /home?
[03:40] <foureight84> yea
[03:40] <BludY> hey guys, where i can find MAN-IPTABLES?
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> BludY: tried 'man iptables' in a terminal?
[03:41] <BludY> mmm
[03:41] <BludY> wait
[03:41] <Nabiki> :P How many windows manages/desktop environments can I have safely installed? :P
[03:41] <BludY> no
[03:41] <Killgore> unlmited
[03:41] <BludY> dont work
[03:41] <Killgore> Nabiki: as many as you want or need
[03:41] <GNU_Style> Killgore, before I overwrite my windows mbr can I back it up 1st?
[03:41] <GNU_Style> Killgore, how?
[03:41] <Killgore> yep
[03:41] <BludY> uff
[03:42] <foureight84> killgore
[03:42] <Killgore> GNU_Style: ooh thats a tough one
[03:42] <Zoroaster> good day everyone
[03:42] <GNU_Style> Killgore, its hard?
[03:42] <fiendskull9> Mornin Zoroaster
[03:42] <foureight84> Killgore: how do i add hdd link to my mount in the "computer" folder?
[03:42] <Zoroaster> does ubuntu have a putty style client?
[03:42] <Nabiki> :P I used sudo apt-get install kde, and it said that it couldn't install it because it couldn't find kdesk. ^^;;
[03:43] <_jason> Zoroaster: the terminal
[03:43] <GNU_Style> how can I backup my windows MBR before overwriting it with grub
[03:43] <foureight84> Killgore: lol too many questions all at once
[03:43] <foureight84> you don't need to back it up GNU_style
[03:43] <fiendskull9> Nabiki, are u just wanting kde enviroment?
[03:43] <foureight84> just overwrite it
[03:43] <fiendskull9> Nabiki, or all its programs
[03:43] <foureight84> and when you need to restore it
[03:43] <Khamael> is it possible to use xgl in breezy?
[03:43] <foureight84> pop in the windows disk
[03:43] <_jason> Zoroaster: install openssh-client and just do 'ssh user@host'
[03:43] <foureight84> and go into rescue mode and type fixmbr
[03:43] <Zoroaster> _jason, ok, thanks will try that
[03:43] <Nabiki> kde environment for the moment.
[03:43] <redguy> Killgore: dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr_backup bs=512 count=1
[03:43] <Killgore> foureight84: im not sure i always wanted that
[03:43] <GNU_Style> foureight84, can I safely overwrite and restor if anything goes wrong?
[03:44] <Killgore> redguy: doi how could i forget that
[03:44] <redguy> Killgore: if hda is the drive which mbr you want to backup
[03:44] <fiendskull9> Nabiki, sudo apt-get install kde-base
[03:44] <foureight84> GNU_Style, fixmbr restores it
[03:44] <fiendskull9> GNU_Style, get a fdisk dos boot disk (for free) (or just a dos boot disk) and do fdisk mbr
[03:44] <fiendskull9> itll clear it
[03:44] <Nabiki> Is there a reason it could not find kdesk though?  Is it not in the standard repository?
[03:44] <redguy> erm, that was for you GNU_Style ..
[03:44] <_jason> Nabiki: I'd recommend aptitude instead of apt-get for installing that so you can easily remove it
[03:44] <fiendskull9> Nabiki, i dunno
[03:45] <Nabiki> That is odd. ^^;;
[03:45] <GNU_Style> redguy, MBR of /dev/sda
[03:45] <fiendskull9> _jason, sudo apt-get remove kde-base
[03:45] <foureight84> i'll post my question on the forums or search for it on the net
[03:45] <foureight84> killgore; thanks though
[03:45] <_jason> !info kde-base
[03:46] <_jason> fiendskull9: that package doesn't even exist it seems
[03:46] <Killgore> GNU_Style: that dd command will back up the first 512 bytes of the drive which is where the bootloader is stored
[03:46] <fiendskull9> _jason, yeah, i realized. it did before
[03:46] <fiendskull9> _jason, hmmm
[03:46] <GNU_Style> ic.. dd go it
[03:46] <redguy> GNU_Style: dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr_backup bs=512 count=1
[03:46] <fiendskull9> _jason & Nabiki: its kdebase
[03:46] <GNU_Style> redguy, how do I restore?
[03:47] <fiendskull9> GNU_Style, get a fdisk dos boot floppy!
[03:47] <fiendskull9> GNU_Style, and type fdisk mbr
[03:47] <_jason> fiendskull9: ok back to the discussion though, it's just a metapackage, so apt-get remove kdebase won't actually remove its dependencies
[03:47] <Nabiki> It can't find KDE base either. O.o;;
[03:47] <redguy> what fiendskull9 is also correct, but I am telling you about the linux way
[03:47] <fiendskull9> _jason, it should, it worked for me, same with other window manangers
[03:47] <Nabiki> Oh! Thanks. (just read the scroll(
[03:47] <redguy> GNU_Style: ^^
[03:47] <fiendskull9> redguy, OK
[03:47] <fiendskull9> redguy, lol
[03:48] <Healot> why the the command can't be easier? for example "strip 512 /dev/sda file=mbr" :)
[03:48] <_jason> fiendskull9: did it get rid of kate for example?
[03:48] <redguy> GNU_Style: to restore you would just dd if=mbr_backup of=/dev/sda
[03:48] <joan> hola mi nombre es JOan
[03:48] <joan> Joan
[03:48] <foureight84> Killgore: oooo!!! i get it, if i mount it under /media then it automatically shows up
[03:48] <_jason> !es
[03:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:48] <fiendskull9> _jason, i dunno, i didnt much pay attention.
[03:48] <GNU_Style> redguy, can I just create an image of my logical drive and copy it to c:\ so that windows's bootloader can load linux?
[03:48] <foureight84> Killgore: lol so simple... hahaha
[03:49] <fiendskull9> _jason, you can also remove the entire kde folder from your system if apt-get remove doesnt worjk
[03:49] <Nabiki> :P  You can use lilo to fix the mbr ^^
[03:49] <fiendskull9> Nabiki, ewwwwwwwwww
[03:49] <Rdde> Hey, i just added a 200bg sata disk to my system.. its found in bios and had 2 ntfs partions on it.. how do i mount it to share whit samba? (looked in all my books, seem to be 2 simple =))
[03:49] <redguy> GNU_Style: you can do that with dd as well
[03:49] <fiendskull9> Nabiki, i hate lilo
[03:49] <GNU_Style> redguy, syntax?
[03:49] <_jason> fiendskull9: well that doesn't really sound like the right way to do it :P
[03:49] <[Wiebel] > Li...
[03:49] <[Wiebel] > :
[03:49] <Nabiki> fiendskull9, If he is using XP it will work better than trying to use fdisk ^^;;
[03:49] <[Wiebel] > :>
[03:49] <fiendskull9> _jason, ill ductape KDE to the system :D
[03:49] <redguy> GNU_Style: erm, no, you can make windows bootloader to boostrap grub or lilo
[03:50] <redguy> GNU_Style: you would have to install grub in the partition's boot record
[03:50] <Killgore> foureight84: sorry i knew the answer to that :(
[03:50] <redguy> GNU_Style: windows' boot loader sucks big time compared to GRUB for example
[03:50] <fiendskull9> Nabiki, but XP doesnt come with most old dos programs (like fdisk)
[03:50] <Rdde> can anyone help me plz?
[03:50] <GNU_Style> so ill just install GRUB to /dev/sda8 (which is safer) and use dd copy grub and load it  from windows?
[03:50] <martin__> asfhggfka
[03:50] <Killgore> Rdde: you will have to mount it
[03:50] <fiendskull9> Nabiki, and i didnt know xp had a mbr wiper
[03:50] <martin__> itsoooooooooooooooo
[03:50] <martin__> .xkckja
[03:50] <martin__> jzurye
[03:50] <Killgore> Rdde: have u ever mounted anyhting beofre?
[03:50] <martin__> zyv
[03:50] <Frogzoo> !tell Rdde about helpme
[03:51] <Rdde> Killgore, long time a go
[03:51] <Zoroaster> from the terminal, how would I list all users that are setup in ubuntu 5.10?
[03:51] <Kritical> Can you have 2 subnets/ips with 1 ethernet adapter?
[03:51] <Zoroaster> is there a list users command
[03:51] <Frogzoo> Kritical: eth0.0 etc
[03:51] <Healot> Kritical: : yes... with aliases
[03:51] <Killgore> Rdde: first make a folder sudo mkdir /media/SATA1
[03:51] <Frogzoo> Kritical: my bad, eth0:0
[03:52] <Killgore> Rdde: r u in linux now
[03:52] <Nabiki> fiendskull9, It does, but you have to install the recover console options to get to it.. And if you have updated the WinXP kernel since installing windows, then it won't let you install the recovery console. ^^;;
[03:52] <arrick> morning all
[03:52] <Fawzib> hello, I have a question about building packages. I created a package using dpkg-buildpackage what files do I need to add in the repository? I know I need the .deb, but I have other files (.dsc , .diff.gz, .changes, .orig.tar.gz) which ones do I need?
[03:52] <redguy> GNU_Style: http://www.tprthai.net/bootmgr.htm
[03:52] <Nabiki> Meaning you HAVE to install it right from the start to really get access to it.
[03:52] <redguy> GNU_Style: but I really recommend using GRUB
[03:52] <arrick> Hi all, How do I turn on my usb ports?
[03:52] <Healot> Kritical:  "man interfaces" on how to create subinterfaces
[03:52] <GNU_Style> redguy, im afraid overwriting my mbr of /dev/sda, maybe it will cause windows to be unbotable
[03:53] <fiendskull9> arrick, hey man! they should be on all ready :-/
[03:53] <Rdde> Killgore, yep, done
[03:53] <Killgore> GNU_Style: not if you save it first
[03:53] <fiendskull9> GNU_Style, no, grub will detect it
[03:53] <Frogzoo> arrick: they should be 'on' by default, (hotplug will detect them)
[03:53] <fiendskull9> GNU_Style, you can also make a windows xp boot disk
[03:53] <Killgore> Rdde: now run sudo fdisk -l and paste the results in the channel #flood
[03:53] <fiendskull9> GNU_Style, so you can just pop in the floppy, and itll find your windows partition and boot it
[03:53] <arrick> freidnskull9: Frogzoo: somehow I am unable to contact my printer
[03:54] <fiendskull9> arrick, fie <tab>
[03:54] <rapha> Hi all!
[03:54] <tanuki> can someone tell me how to add a 'trashcan' item to my desktop?
[03:54] <laffer> http://pastebin.com/624956 when I type make it returns this. what do I do?
[03:54] <Frogzoo> arrick: disconnect the usb, 'tail -f /var/log/messages' plug back in -what msg do you get?
[03:54] <arrick> fie <tab>
[03:54] <arrick> hang on
[03:54] <_jason> Zoroaster: maybe cut -d : -f 1 /etc/passwd
[03:54] <rapha> Does anybody else have problems with the Flight 5 .iso? Whenever I burn it and try to MD5sum the CD, I get I/O errors.
[03:54] <Rdde> Killgore, how do i copy from terminal window?
[03:54] <Frogzoo> rapha: burn slower
[03:54] <fiendskull9> arrick, its not a command :D its how to get my name right here.
[03:54] <redguy> GNU_Style: doubtfull. as fiendskull9 said you can always bring the windows' MBR code back with a floppy or dd it as I told you
[03:54] <Rdde> Killgore, got it
[03:55] <foureight84> killgore: i did sudo rm -rf /mnt/C on accident. i was trying to do rm -f. it tried to delete a bunch of stuff.... anychance i screwed something up?
[03:55] <engla> foureight84: there is a big chance you deleted lots of files
[03:55] <Killgore> lol
[03:55] <Killgore> a huge chance
[03:55] <foureight84> lol damn it
[03:55] <fiendskull9> tanuki, why do you need one on your desktop? there is one in the bottom right corner] 
[03:55] <rapha> Frogzoo: How? There is no setting for that in Ubuntu, or is there?
[03:55] <Killgore> dl mate
[03:55] <foureight84> ugh uh
[03:55] <tanuki> i would prefer to have it on the desktop
[03:55] <Killgore> what was in C
[03:55] <GNU_Style> redguy, ill go with GRUB then, will grub automatically find menu.list in /dev/sda8/boot/GRUB?
[03:55] <foureight84> nothing was in C
[03:55] <foureight84> but it was trying to delete stuff outside of C
[03:55] <Killgore> oh
[03:55] <rapha> Frogzoo: well, it's grayed out anyway and says "Max possible,"
[03:56] <Frogzoo> rapha: burn with k3b - it will let you set burn speed for sure
[03:56] <laffer> can someone help me? with this laffer@golias:~/ez-ipupdate-3.0.11b7$ make
[03:56] <Killgore> put some of it in flood
[03:56] <foureight84> oh nvm
[03:56] <laffer> sory
[03:56] <Killgore> k
[03:56] <GNU_Style> redguy, note that I just copied my entire /dev/hda1 to /dev/sda8
[03:56] <engla> foureight84: it can't delete anything outside /mnt/C if the command was exactly that
[03:56] <laffer> with laffer@golias:~/ez-ipupdate-3.0.11b7$ make
[03:56] <laffer> sorry again
[03:56] <foureight84> whew!! it was mounted as read only
[03:56] <engla> foureight84: but look around and gauge the damage
[03:56] <foureight84> yea you're right
[03:56] <rapha> Frogzoo: isn't there something that doesn't require all the KDE dependancies?
[03:56] <Rdde> Killgore,  pasted it in private
[03:56] <fiendskull9> foureight84, if its ntfs itll be ready only
[03:56] <laffer> http://pastebin.com/624956 < with this
[03:56] <foureight84> it's recursive inside
[03:56] <foureight84> whew
[03:56] <foureight84> it was
[03:56] <foureight84> lol
[03:56] <GNU_Style> means that GRUB will look for menu.list in /dev/hda1/Boot/grub
[03:56] <foureight84> i changed it to rw just right now
[03:57] <foureight84> it was in read only before
[03:57] <fiendskull9> lol
[03:57] <engla> foureight84: and if that is a windows ntfs disk, don't try to rw or write anything to it
[03:57] <Frogzoo> rapha: you can set drive speed with hdparm -E ...
[03:57] <arrick> fiendskull9: thanks
[03:57] <foureight84> awh it can't?
[03:57] <tanuki> can someone tell me how to add a trashcan item to my desktop?
[03:57] <foureight84> i thought ntfs was fully supported by now
[03:57] <fiendskull9> foureight84, you can screw siomething up trying to write to ntfs
[03:57] <engla> foureight84: it can write to ntfs disks, but I think it's very risky
[03:57] <rapha> Frogzoo: cool, thanks!
[03:57] <fiendskull9> engla, yeah
[03:57] <engla> !ntfs
[03:57] <_jason> !desktop-icons
[03:57] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:57] <ubotu> To have icons for drives and the trashcan on your Gnome desktop, run the GConf Editor (Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor) and edit the keys in /apps/nautilus/desktop and/or /apps/nautilus/general
[03:57] <foureight84> ah i see
[03:57] <arrick> Frogzoo: It shows up , why does it lose communication?
[03:57] <redguy> GNU_Style: hmmmm, not sure how grub finds sata drives, but I would suggest that you change every occurance of (hd0,0) to (hd0,7) in your menu.lst
[03:57] <Healot> by default, the linux ntfs driver cannot wite to ntfs disks, even with the option "rw"
[03:57] <_jason> tanuki: see what ubotu said above about icons ^
[03:57] <Frogzoo> arrick: wrong driver?
[03:57] <NoOnEx> can anyone tell me the command to check what version of a package I have installed?
[03:58] <Rdde> Killgore, did you get it?
[03:58] <Killgore> Rdde: yer
[03:58] <Frogzoo> NoOnEx: dpkg -l
[03:58] <foureight84> LOL well this is some lighted humor for you guys who have been busy for the last few hours trying to help peopel
[03:58] <_jason> NoOnEx: or apt-cache policy packagename
[03:58] <GNU_Style> (hd0,0) maybe (sd0,0)?
[03:58] <arrick> Frogzoo, its the one that all the wiki adn linuxprintning say to use with the printer.?
[03:59] <redguy> GNU_Style: I have to go, somebody else here might help you out more, or you could ask in #grub
[03:59] <NoOnEx> Thank you !
[03:59] <Killgore> Rdde: next command - sudo mount -t ntfs /media/SATA1 /dev/sda1
[03:59] <arrick> frogzoo, any suggestions?
[03:59] <GNU_Style> redguy, thanks for the time
[03:59] <laffer> can anyone tell me why http://pastebin.com/624956 happens?
[03:59] <Frogzoo> arrick: well then your printer clearly is supported - hmm...
[04:00] <Healot> laffer: can you do C?
[04:00] <Frogzoo> arrick: what exactly is the problem?
[04:00] <fiendskull9> i g2g
[04:00] <foureight84> lol okay i'm gonna boot into windows to see if anything acutally happened out of my stupidity
[04:00] <fiendskull9> have a good day all
[04:00] <juavare> hola a todos
[04:00] <laffer> Healot no
[04:00] <_jason> !es
[04:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:00] <laffer> Healot why?
[04:00] <Healot> there's simply a silly mistake on that code
[04:00] <Healot> you need to change it yourself
[04:01] <arrick> I try to print a testpage and it gives me the following
[04:01] <Rdde> Killgore,  doesn't work.. something about isnt a block drive
[04:01] <juavare> que es eso
[04:01] <laffer> Healot what is it?
[04:01] <Frogzoo> arrick: !pastebin
[04:01] <_jason> juavare: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:01] <arrick> Frogzoo, nah, its short, gotta get it up though
[04:01] <juavare> vale
[04:02] <Frogzoo> arrick: be sure to check /var/log/cups/error_log
[04:03] <laffer> Healot how can I fix it?
[04:03] <Rdde> Killgore, the folder in media i just created isnt a block unit or something
[04:03] <Killgore> can i have the message?
[04:04] <Healot> it is explained on the error message itself, "/home/laffer/ez-ipupdate-3.0.11b7/conf_file.c:88: undefined reference to `errno'"
[04:04] <Healot> this is why you must know how to read/write C programs...
[04:04] <rapha> Frogzoo: hey, that seems to have helped! :-)
[04:04] <Frogzoo> rapha: cool :)
[04:04] <laffer> Healot I don't know neither of them, read or write.. can I still fix it?
[04:04] <arrick> Frogzoo, '"Communication was lost. Please check printer and connections." '
[04:04] <arrick> is what i get
[04:05] <Frogzoo> erk..
[04:05] <gorduxxo> hello all... does anyone know a good comedy podcast ?
[04:05] <kleinlappies> hi there
[04:05] <Healot> then nay... get help from someone who is excellent in C
[04:05] <nismo> im having trouble connecting my mp3 player to ubuntu. I have a nomad jukebox zen xtra and ive downloaded gnomad 2 but when i go to open gnomad 2, it says "Could not open jukebox: usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted"  please help!
[04:05] <kleinlappies> what is a good bluetooth program
[04:05] <rapha> Healot: there's the excellenct #c channel!
[04:05] <Healot> tell that to laffer, rapha!
[04:05] <Frogzoo> arrick: check /var/log/messages & /var/log/cups/error_log for likely error messages
[04:05] <Rdde> Killgore, you still here mate?
[04:06] <nismo> any ideas?
[04:06] <kleinlappies> i want to put in the bluetooth dongle into my pc and then use my nokia 6680 to remote control my pc
[04:06] <rapha> Healot: woops, sorry. laffer: try #c, used to be an excellent channel for me when I was doing C.
[04:07] <arrick> ok
[04:07] <nismo> no1 wants to help?
[04:08] <tanuki> can someone tell me why rhythymbox will not recognise my mp3 files?
[04:08] <_jason> tanuki: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[04:08] <tanuki> yes
[04:08] <Healot> and libmad?
[04:09] <_jason> tanuki: close rhythmbox, run gst-register-0.8, and try rhythmbox again
[04:09] <Frogzoo> nismo: no idea, soz - maybe try google on that error msg
[04:09] <Killgore> Rdde: yer
[04:09] <arrick> !pastebin
[04:09] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[04:09] <nismo> k
[04:09] <Killgore> Rdde: sorry
[04:09] <nismo> :(
[04:09] <arrick> brb
[04:09] <Healot> nismo read gnomad FAQ/documentation first, I don't think they leave users hanging to nowhere :)
[04:10] <Rdde> Killgore, np mate, you know whats wrong?
[04:11] <tanuki> _jason, k, i got it to work
[04:11] <_jason> tanuki: great
[04:11] <tanuki> is there a way to play .wma and .m4a files in ubuntu?
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> vlc
[04:12] <Thralas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:12] <Thralas> Maybe?
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> actually thats a great way to play those files in windows too
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> !vlc
[04:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[04:13] <Rdde> Can anyone help me mount a sata ntfs disk?
[04:14] <Killgore> Rdde: yer try this
[04:14] <Killgore> Rdde: next command - sudo mount -t ntfs /media/SATA1 /dev/sda5
[04:14] <gen> hello
[04:15] <wietse> hiya, could someone try and help me install skype in my Ubuntu???
[04:15] <Rdde> Killgore,  you know the first one didnt work?
[04:15] <Killgore> Rdde: try that and if it gives an error message put it in here
[04:15] <Healot> Killgore: that will not work
[04:15] <Frogzoo> wietse: get the skype pkg from the seveas repo
[04:15] <Frogzoo> !tell wietse about seveas
[04:15] <gen> wietse : at which step are you?
[04:16] <wietse> i've downloaded it and it asks me to do some commands in the console
[04:16] <wietse> which i don't know about
[04:16] <Killgore> Healot: what have i done wrong
[04:17] <gen> wietse : what commands exactly? I dont remember it asking for special commands
[04:17] <arrick> Frogzoo, check pastebin
[04:17] <Rdde> Killgore, it keep saying that /media/SATA1 isnt a block unit or something
[04:17] <Healot> wrong param position, device first, then mount point/// yet that device may not exist
[04:17] <wietse> ah, no sorry i'll give it a try
[04:18] <gen> wietse : it must be a graphical interface
[04:18] <wietse> thats for RPM version
[04:18] <Healot> Rdde: try this instead, are you using GNOME right now?
[04:19] <Frogzoo> wietse: if you just install the seveas pkg, it just works...
[04:19] <dockane> is there anybody who installed successfully the perl version of mapivi ?  http://mapivi.sourceforge.net/mapivi.shtml#install
[04:20] <Rdde> Healot,  GNOME? :P sorry that im really new on this =P
[04:20] <Healot> nay
[04:20] <Healot> Rdde: then stay new, and learn :)
[04:21] <wietse> Frogzoo: sorry but I haven't got a clue what you're on about. What does this have to do with me installing Skype?
[04:21] <Rdde> Healot,  im in the "xwin" if it was what you ment?
[04:21] <gen> wietse : if you select the good installer, you will have a graphical interface to install it and its done very easy.
[04:22] <wietse> cheers
[04:22] <Thralas> I'm having troubles with Cedega, apparantly I'm missing some X truetype fonts, err:font:ReadFontDir Can't open directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/"
[04:22] <Thralas> . Is there a package containing those fonts?
[04:23] <andriijas> what am i doing in this channel?
[04:23] <oskude> Therion, its a directory where its pointing...
[04:23] <Frogzoo> wietse: check the message from ubotu. Add the seveas repo. 'sudo apt-get install skype' & you're done
[04:23] <Killgore> Rdde: did u instal ubuntu or kubuntu on the install disc
[04:23] <Killgore> Healot: what were you thinking of doing? im pretty sure hes on GNOME
[04:24] <Healot> he said "xwin" :)
[04:24] <oskude> Therion, i found "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/" on my breezy
[04:24] <Therion> oskude: Great!
[04:25] <gen> does anyone use Steam with the recent Wine release ( > 0.9.7 ) ???
[04:25] <Thralas> Therion? Thralas?
[04:25] <Kritical> Before I even attempt this can someone tell me if this is possible: I run Ubuntu Linux.. I want to install Qemu and then run a dedicated Gateway server from it (SME Server). Using Tup Qemu/SMEServer should be able to host the entire lan?
[04:25] <Thralas> oskude, I realized that, but I don't have it. Supposing it's some pkg, I'm in need the the name
[04:26] <Killgore> Healot: xwin?
[04:26] <Rdde> Killgore, ubuntu i think?
[04:26] <oskude> Thralas, yeah ment you, not Therion , damn tab :)
[04:26] <Killgore> Healot: see it is most likely GNOME
[04:28] <wietse> gen: it opens the files in archive manager
[04:28] <bjerkkur> how do I install the Opera webbrowser
[04:28] <oskude> Thralas, your using breezy ? did you do normal install ? atleast some ttf fonts should be there...
[04:28] <Rdde> Killgore, what do you think the problem is
[04:28] <bjerkkur> I have the .deb-package, but what next, then ?
[04:29] <Killgore> Rdde: have u got the exact message?
[04:29] <gen> wietse : okay. open a console window and go where is the installer you downloaded
[04:29] <wietse> how do i do that? it's on the desktop
[04:29] <Frogzoo> Kritical: first - best use kqemu instead - 2nd, getting the networking working will likely take a bit of work
[04:29] <gen> Application > Accessorie > Terminal
[04:30] <wietse> ok got it
[04:30] <gen> then chande directory to Desktop
[04:30] <gen> cd Desktop
[04:30] <gen> is the command
[04:30] <pachules> e
[04:30] <bjerkkur> quit
[04:30] <Rdde> Killgore,  the problem is it is in swedish.. but exactly tanslated it is mount: /media/SATA1/ is not a blockunit
[04:30] <wietse> ok done
[04:31] <gen> okay
[04:31] <gen> now, type " ls "
[04:31] <arrick> anybody got a better driver for a Lexmark X6170 than the z600?
[04:31] <gen> and you should see somewhere in the middle of the items you got on your desktop, the name of the installer
[04:31] <wietse> ok it shows the file - it's the only thing thats on the desktop
[04:31] <haha> does any one know how to configure apache2? i dont like the 404 page i wanted to change that!
[04:31] <gen> ok
[04:32] <gen> is it green?
[04:32] <wietse> no
[04:32] <Killgore> Rdde: im really sorry but im not sure what your problem is. Ive never come across any errors like that before. You could try googling it
[04:32] <gen> k to be sure type "chmod 777 installer_name"  replace installer name with the right name
[04:32] <caglar> is there a program which can load a textfile to my clipboard? Or which can load stdout into my clipboard?
[04:32] <Kritical> Frogzoo: Hmm I think you're right about the networking part.. I think I'm going to give it a go still =)
[04:32] <Killgore> use autocomplete
[04:32] <gen> remember to use tab to autocomplete
[04:33] <Killgore> beat ya gen
[04:33] <gen> done? ;P
[04:33] <Rdde> Killgore,  can i mount the driver in any folder? like just /SATA ?
[04:33] <wietse> no
[04:33] <gen> I go into more explanation Killgore ^^
[04:33] <wietse> what you mean by replacing installer name with the right name?
[04:33] <Frogzoo> Killgore: there's a daemon for running a pseudo lan that might be the best approach - haven't used it though - half a sec while I find a link
[04:33] <gen> I mean you type "chmod 777 Skype_Setup"
[04:34] <wietse> ok just a sec
[04:34] <gen> then you will have to type    "   ./Skype_Setup    "
[04:34] <Killgore> Rdde: you can mount it anywhere there is an empty folder but /media will make it show up on the desktop
[04:34] <carbo> how do i change the owner of /dev/sda3, which is mounted to /windows? I've tried using nautilus as root but it says i don't have permissions even though the owner is root..
[04:34] <gen> i gotta go
[04:34] <gen> maybe Killgore can help you
[04:34] <gen> gotta grab a train
[04:34] <gen> ;)
[04:34] <gen> cya later
[04:34] <Killgore> Frogzoo: u mean like vnc?
[04:34] <Killgore> oh no more people to help ;)
[04:35] <Toma-> carbo: you might want to change the options in fstab
[04:35] <gen> i'll be back
[04:35] <wietse> ok
[04:35] <Frogzoo> Killgore: I mean like http://vde.sourceforge.net/
[04:35] <remote> anyone in here a perl expert?
[04:35] <carbo> Toma-: okay I'll look into it... first have to find fstab :x
[04:35] <Frogzoo> Kritical: http://vde.sourceforge.net/ 'Virtual Distributed Ethernet'
[04:35] <gen> brb
[04:35] <Toma-> !fstab
[04:35] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[04:36] <dockane> remote, i know how to use cpan ;)
[04:36] <oskude> caglar, "dragbox" could be usefull http://www.student.lu.se/~cif04usv/Apps.html
[04:36] <remote> dockane, what is cpan?
[04:36] <oskude> caglar, the developer is sometimes here :)
[04:37] <caglar> cool, thanks oskude
[04:37] <dockane> remote, http://www.cpan.org/
[04:37] <oskude> caglar, the deb works on breezy
[04:37] <Killgore> Frogzoo: i can do the same things with SSH
[04:38] <lafferpt> on the configuration of ddclient for DynDns what do I put under: Interface used for dynamic DNS service?
[04:38] <arrick> Frogzoo, you think I might have a driver problem here?
[04:38] <gert>  irc.freenode.org
[04:39] <oskude> caglar, piping stdout from program to dragbox would be like "ps | dragbox"
[04:39] <Killgore> how did i find nubuntu? did some one post a link in here?
[04:40] <oskude> caglar, then if you click the text in dragbox, its in gnomes clipboard, or you can drag and drop it (and to it)
[04:41] <Kritical> Frogzoo: Wow.. looks like what I need.. looks a little under-developed however if it works it could make life a lot easier, thanks heaps!
[04:42] <carbo> okay after i change /etc/fstab do i have to restart or what
[04:43] <gnomefreak> carbo: im thinking restarting would be good idea
[04:43] <lafferpt> on the configuration of ddclient for DynDns what do I put under: Interface used for dynamic DNS service?
[04:43] <carbo> gnomefreak: alright thanks
[04:43] <Khamael> is there flash8 in ubuntu?
[04:44] <ecen> hello, i wanted to know how do i know which disk is using ubuntu. i mean, i have 3 physical disks but i dont know which one is the one that ubuntu is using hd0, hd1, hd2?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> !flash
[04:44] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:46] <oskude> ecen, type "mount" and look wheres "/dev/hdaX on / type...."
[04:47] <ecen> i get /dev/hdc5 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail) but is does not tell me if it is hd0 or hd1 or hd2
[04:47] <haha> does any one know how to configure apache2? i dont like the 404 page i wanted to change that!
[04:47] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i'm trying "mail-notification" which is in universe. setting up an imap mailbox and the option for SSL/TLS is greyed out... any ideas?
[04:48] <oskude> ecen, hda = ide1 master, hdb = ide1 slave, hdc = ide2 master, hdd = ide2 slave
[04:48] <Rdde> Killgore,  i got it to work.. i changed the order to /dev/sda1 /media/SATA1
[04:49] <BludY> What About Hacking?
[04:49] <indrek> Ubuntu Rox anyway :P
[04:49] <oskude> ecen, so hdc5 would be 5th partition on ide bus 2 master harddisk...
[04:49] <Rdde> I just mounted a Sata disk but and got an icon on the desctop.. but i dont have acc to enter it.. Chmod doesnt seam to work? anyone?
[04:50] <indrek> Hey
[04:50] <indrek> Can somebody say how i get windows xp and ubuntu in same HD ?
[04:50] <tristanmike> !tell indrek about dualboot
[04:51] <tristanmike> indrek: check you're pm from ubotu for more info :)
[04:51] <milan> hallo :) iemand een idee waarom mijn cd drive niet herkend word?
[04:51] <Frogzoo> !nl
[04:51] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[04:51] <milan> oh im sorry :P
[04:52] <indrek> I can install em. but windows says after linux install: The file is missing or corrupt, but it isn't :P
[04:52] <ecen> oskude, thanks, but what i want is to root setup grub on this disk and as i have read i have to set it up like root (hd0) or root (hd1), and i dont know which hd i should put
[04:53] <simmons> heya guys
[04:53] <Rdde> Cab anyone help me ? I cant acc the sata driver i mounted on my desktop.. and chmod dosn't seam to work?
[04:53] <indrek> hi
[04:53] <simmons> wandering any of u know anythinng about john the ripper i need help
[04:53] <rambo3> chmod the folder?
[04:53] <rambo3> :S
[04:54] <rambo3> why are you mounting on dektop?
[04:54] <oskude> ecen, i think that could be (hd2), if hd0 = hda, hd1 = hdb, hd2 = hdc...
[04:55] <oskude> ecen, but you will get the bootloader after reboot where bios is pointing, mostly hd0...
[04:55] <rambo3> hd2,0
[04:56] <Zeias> so ideas on john the ripper
[04:56] <gnomefreak> bbs
[04:56] <ecen> oskude, thanks :)
[04:56] <oskude> can bios (these days) even boot from other than hd0 (ide 1 master) ?
[04:56] <Killgore> yes
[04:57] <oskude> my pcs are ~5 years old, and they can only ide 1 master...
[04:57] <Killgore> in fact its easier in newer bios's (these days)
[04:57] <Killgore> yer my bios is crap
[04:57] <Frogzoo> Zeias: just state your problem & someone will help if they can
[04:57] <void^> a modern bios can usually boot from any ide/sata device and even usb-storage devices
[04:58] <Zeias> I need help with john the riper its says no password hashes loaded..how am i suposed to do that
[04:58] <dockane> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6054.html  <- ive got the same problem / error but with mapivi. any idea ?
[04:59] <Frogzoo> Zeias: check the man page
[04:59] <patrick52222> right i just downloaded the new amsn and its called "
[04:59] <patrick52222> amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb" how do i install it
[05:00] <dark26435> is this a place i can come for help.. or is there a different chat section to go to?
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> patrick52222: sudo dpkg -i amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb
[05:00] <tristanmike> you've reached the right place for that :)
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> this is the help channel
[05:01] <Frogzoo> dark26435: check the banner ^^^
[05:01] <dark26435> great
[05:01] <GordonFreeman> hola
[05:01] <laci> hey guys! if i install the latest and greatest drapper drake flight version, is there a way to stay up-to-date constantly like with debian unstable?
[05:01] <patrick52222> i get this "dpkg: error processing amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb (--install):
[05:01] <patrick52222>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:01] <patrick52222> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:01] <patrick52222>  amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb
[05:01] <patrick52222> "
[05:01] <patrick52222> sorry
[05:01] <GordonFreeman> alguien sabe como se hace para poner mas fuentes rollo truetype o algo ?
[05:01] <GordonFreeman> xD
[05:01] <GordonFreeman> uix
[05:01] <Frogzoo> laci: the aptitude system issues continous updates
[05:01] <Rdde> plz anyone? how can i change so the user Rdde can access my SATA1 drive from his desktop..? chmod /media/SATA1/ doesnt work
[05:01] <_jason> laci: yeah just enable the online repos in /etc/apt/sources.list and let the update manager do its thing
[05:01] <arrick> english please
[05:02] <dark26435> when i start Totem, I get an error that says it can not startup because a resourse busy or not availible?
[05:02] <_jason> !es
[05:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:02] <juztin> how do i change the behavior of my title bars, so when i double click them, they shade, instead of maximizing?
[05:02] <bajek> hello where in ubuntu 6.04 i can find file with locale ?
[05:02] <laci> sounds simple. thanks
[05:02] <tristanmike> !dapper
[05:02] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:02] <Tiberian> Guys, i think i have a small problem.. when i minimize the windows, i don't see them at the Taskbar.. o_O
[05:02] <bajek> in 5.10 this file was /etc/locale.gen but in 6.04 i haven;t this file
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> Tiberian: :D
[05:03] <patrick52222> can some look at this for http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10914 and tell what the problem might be
[05:03] <Tiberian> Kamping_Kaiser, ? :)
[05:03] <Killgore> lates all
[05:03] <_jason> Tiberian: right click on the panel, add to panel, window list.  try that
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> Tiberian: check you have the windowlist installed
[05:03] <niki> how do i change the behavior of my title bars, so when i double click them, they shade, instead of maximizing?
[05:03] <patrick52222> can someone look at this for me as im having problems http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10914 and tell what the problem might be
[05:03] <sorush21> can I install xp to an extended partition?
[05:03] <_jason> niki: system > preferences > windows iirc
[05:03] <Tiberian> Kamping_Kaiser & _jason thanks a bunch :*
[05:04] <niki> _jason, that would be it, thx :)
[05:04] <sorush21> patrick52222: try sudo apt-get -f install
[05:04] <Frogzoo> sorush21: yes
[05:04] <Frogzoo> sorush21: just be sure you enable LBA in the bios
[05:05] <sorush21> Frogzoo: and then i have to get the grub fixed up using the live cd right?
[05:05] <patrick52222> sudo apt-get -f install and this istalls amsn right
[05:05] <Frogzoo> sorush21: yup
[05:05] <dark26435> when i start Totem, I get an error that says it can not startup because a resourse busy or not availible
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> dark26435: what device?
[05:05] <sorush21> patrick52222: that will try to fix apt-get ... no install any thing.. -f means fix
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> *resource
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorush21: it installs what it needs to match your package selections
[05:06] <dark26435> video device?
[05:06] <sorush21> Frogzoo: are you talking about my bios on my Motherboard, I have been there but there is no signs of my partitions.. do you mean the HDD it self?
[05:07] <patrick52222> sorush21: does nt do anything
[05:07] <Frogzoo> dark26435: me thinks you need: system -> prefs -> multimedia selector -> video - try either SDL or Xwindows (No xv)
[05:08] <sorush21> patrick52222: I would recommend that you use kopete.. rather than amsn.. you can have video chat and voice chat in kopete , it also fully supports yahoo..
[05:08] <sorush21> patrick52222: but where is this package comming form..
[05:08] <Frogzoo> sorush21: in the bios you can autodetect drives - set the drive's mode to LBA
[05:08] <mauro> hello i have a proble when i install oracle instant client
[05:08] <mauro> some ono can help me
[05:08] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[05:08] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:09] <patrick52222> sorush21: the amsn is coming of thier site as it says i need to upgrade the newer amsn, where do i get kopete
[05:09] <BludY> What About HACKING??????????''
[05:09] <dark26435> ok totem starts up now, thank you.
[05:09] <Frogzoo> BludY: not really specifically an ubuntu issue dude
[05:09] <BludY> ok
[05:09] <Rdde> man i can't change the permission of my mounted sata disk so the user chan access it from the desktop.. when i try to use chmod i get "Filesystem only readable"
[05:10] <sorush21> patrick52222: kopete is part of kubuntu.. all you need to do is to instlal kubuntu-desktop from your synaptic.. and select GDM when asked to do so..
[05:10] <dark26435> 2 more things im still having a few issues with is I can not seem to find the correct way to install my actual video and sound drivers for this. Any direction?
[05:10] <sorush21> patrick52222: before you do that tell me where you got the package.. is it the amsn site.. /
[05:10] <sorush21> ?
[05:10] <Frogzoo> dark26435: which video card?
[05:10] <Frogzoo> !tell dark26435 about sound
[05:11] <dark26435> radeon x700 pro and sounblaster 24bit
[05:11] <sorush21> mauro: go to #oracle and they know about you..
[05:11] <Heroin> Hallo all
[05:11] <patrick52222> i got it from here http://amsn.sourceforge.net/download.php
[05:11] <Frogzoo> !tell dark26435 about ati
[05:11] <Heroin> i have a small qeustion, perhaps some one can help me out
[05:11] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[05:11] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:11] <Frogzoo> sigh...
[05:12] <niki> i want to be able to resize my windows by holding ALT and the _right_ mouse button...ubuntu came with it setup as ALT and the middle button.  how can i change this?
[05:12] <sfar-ubu> Frogzoo, i bet if you wait the question will come right at you
[05:13] <Heroin> I currently have WindowsXP(sp1) installed on D:\, and i want to install Ubuntu5.04 to C:\, however C:\ is 33GB and i want it to become 15GB and then add another 10GB to D:\, and create a filesharing partition with fat32 of 5GB... now what is the best way to do this?
[05:13] <Heroin> (C:\ and D:\ are all 1 Harddrive just partitions)
[05:14] <Newbieee> Heloo Who can help me to set up my wireless...From tutorials I barely Understand
[05:14] <patrick52222> how good is the kubuntu to the one i have already got
[05:14] <orangehaw> Heroin: what have you tried thus far
[05:14] <Frogzoo> Heroin: use the live cd to run gparted & shrink the first partition etc
[05:15] <Heroin> Kubuntu is a difrent GUI.. its a but more further ahead of Gnome which is standert on ubuntu
[05:15] <Rdde> What dose this mean? rdde@Filserver:/media# chgrp rdde SATA1/
[05:15] <Rdde> chgrp: changing group of `SATA1/': Read-only file system
[05:15] <Heroin> Frogzoo, i cant do it during my debian install?
[05:15] <patrick52222> ok thanks
[05:15] <Frogzoo> Heroin: just be sure to get the data off c: before you install ubuntu to it
[05:15] <Heroin> i mean during ubuntu install
[05:15] <Heroin> yes :) i backed it up
[05:15] <tristanmike> Heroin: if you don't want to reinstall everything from scratch, the best would be using something like Partition Magic to resize the XP drive(remember to back up your data)
[05:15] <Heroin> i have partition magic aswell
[05:15] <jenda> Is there a way to greate my own context hightlighting mode in gedit?
[05:16] <Newbieee> Heloo Who can help me to set up my wireless...From tutorials I barely Understand
[05:16] <Heroin> Ok well ill give partition magic a go after C is done defragging
[05:16] <Heroin> Newbieee spamming is not the answer... just wait for some one to help
[05:16] <niki> Newbieee, is it on a pc or laptop?
[05:16] <c0llin> how would i get ndiswrapper?
[05:16] <Newbieee> Laptop
[05:16] <Frogzoo> Heroin: just resize the partition from the installer, you can create the additional partition under xp later
[05:16] <Newbieee> Heroin I asked just 2 times sorry:)
[05:17] <niki> Newbieee, what card?
[05:17] <Newbieee> niki I don`t know this is the problem
[05:17] <Newbieee> And I am in Ubuntu Now
[05:17] <niki> Newbieee, look at it :)
[05:17] <patrick52222> and how do i backup the xorg.conf file and use it incase i gant get to the desktop, if you no wat i mean
[05:18] <Frogzoo> patrick52222: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bck
[05:18] <Newbieee> niki how from ubuntu...because with that command from terminal it didn`t work
[05:18] <niki> Newbieee, what command?
[05:19] <patrick52222> frogzoo: what do i do then
[05:19] <Frogzoo> patrick52222: not sure what you want to do - but after the above, your xorg.conf is backed up, as you see
[05:19] <arrick> Frogzoo, where can I post these lexmark driver for others to have?
[05:19] <arrick> I foudn a set for mine in the UK
[05:20] <patrick52222> then how would i use if something went wrong with it
[05:20] <c0llin> can someone help me with setting up wifi card?
[05:21] <Newbieee> nicki: lspci -v | less
[05:21] <Frogzoo> arrick: are these cups drivers, or what?
[05:21] <arrick> yeah
[05:21] <Frogzoo> arrick: try: http://www.cups.org
[05:21] <arrick> ok
[05:22] <arrick> thanks
[05:22] <Frogzoo> yw
[05:22] <barquilla> l,pl.
[05:22] <barquilla> hola
[05:23] <niki> Newbieee, check here: http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000167
[05:24] <mariopm> hola
[05:24] <barquilla> q dejate de cachondo
[05:25] <treyh0> why are there only 4000 some odd packages in 'main' in Ubuntu but 16,000 in debian's 'main' repository?
[05:25] <treyh0> where did the rest go
[05:25] <Newbieee> niki the problem is that I don`t know how to download and install a program in Linux..I am still suffering from Windows:)
[05:25] <niki> Newbieee, with ubuntu, just use the synaptic package manager
[05:26] <c0llin> SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device ??
[05:26] <nickrud> !tell treyh0 about components
[05:26] <Frogzoo> !es
[05:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:26] <moein> I have a Sony Vaio VGB-S58GP. It has a 80GB SATA disk with Intel ICH6(M) (PIIX) Chipset. The install of Ubuntu 5.10 will finish, but after startup, it give a error like : ata1: BUG ... . But I can install Ubuntu 5.04 easily without any problem. has anybody experience of this problem or know what's the problem ?
[05:27] <Newbieee> niki I am a real Newbie...and I don`t know about synaptic...
[05:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell Newbieee about synaptic
[05:27] <niki> Newbieee, synaptic is located in your menu, under system/adminstration/
[05:28] <_jason> treyh0: if you enable ubuntu's universe and multiverse you will get ~17000
[05:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell treyh0 about easysource
[05:29] <lukas_> how do I force the following expression to be ungreedy? echo `expr "blabla" : '\(.*\)l.*'`
[05:30] <idefix> what program is best for making 'copying' music from paper to files? ASC-music?
[05:30] <Newbieee> yes niki I founded...and this synaptic is something like Explorer?
[05:30] <idefix> what program is best for 'copying' music from paper to files? ASC-music?
[05:30] <niki> Newbieee, no, synaptic installs software and its dependencies for you
[05:30] <niki> Newbieee, it's a lot easier than manually installing software
[05:31] <neo911> what cmd-line can i use to determine which process is using a certain (udp) port? thanks
[05:31] <tristanmike> Newbieee: and safer as the Ubuntu devs have specifically prepackaged these for Ubuntu
[05:32] <Newbieee> ok...you see that first I have to understood the system...
[05:32] <tristanmike> !tell Newbieee about synaptic
[05:32] <neo911> i think the 2MSL time has elapsed already
[05:32] <tristanmike> Newbieee:  there's some reading ;)
[05:33] <oskude> neo911, try "netstat --inet" and some other flags maybe, see man page
[05:33] <neo911> oskude, thx that worked for tcp
[05:34] <moein> I have a Sony Vaio VGB-S58GP. It has a 80GB SATA disk with Intel ICH6(M) (PIIX) Chipset. The install of Ubuntu 5.10 (and Debian Etch) will finish, but after startup, it give a error like : ata1: BUG ... . But I can install Ubuntu 5.04 easily without any problem. has anybody experience of this problem or know what's the problem ?
[05:34] <Newbieee> yes thx I already read that...but me I try to find a connection between XP and ubuntu...to have an Idee about what`s happening
[05:34] <tristanmike> Newbieee: I learn the exact same way :)
[05:36] <oskude> neo911, man pages says "--udp" :)
[05:36] <Thralas> How do I get my uid/gid from the commandline?
[05:37] <carlos_> hello
[05:37] <gnomefreak> where is the apache config file? i thought it would be ~/.apache but its not
[05:37] <Thralas> /etc/apache?
[05:37] <niklas-komani> hey all
[05:37] <niklas-komani> I have a problem
[05:37] <oskude> gnomefreak, apache aint an "user" program...
[05:37] <gnomefreak> ty thats it ;)
[05:38] <carlos_> somebody knows de differences between the command snmpnetstat and netstat because the results are differents??thanks
[05:38] <[Ag0ny] > heh gnome just went through that myself
[05:38] <cyberix> Why aren't the DMA of my optic drives turned on by default?
[05:38] <tristanmike> cyberix: because it can be dangerous on older systems/drives
[05:38] <cyberix> tristanmike: Can't Ubuntun maintain a database about the safe drives?
[05:38] <niklas-komani> my Anjuta IDE has vertical line on every one of it's tabbed scintilla gadgets the line seems to server no purpose and is the even when I resize the window and then it moves
[05:39] <niklas-komani> ok xchat cut something away
[05:39] <niklas-komani> so my problem is
[05:39] <oskude> carlos, maybe snmpnetstat gives the netstats in snmp format
[05:39] <niklas-komani> that my anjuta ide shows a veritcal line on every source code and it won't disapper whatever I do
[05:40] <tristanmike> cyberix: dunno, not a developer, I'm sure it's not as easy as I would think it may be
[05:41] <void^> there are some graphical issues with anjuta and recent gtk or pango or whatever it was..
[05:41] <samurai> has anyone ever found a file that totem will play in breezy
[05:41] <hawaisurf> hi..I was checking my webspeedconnection before and I realize that I dont have 10Mb/s anymore and have a download speed really poor.....anybody know how to change the settings for speed connection?
[05:41] <niklas-komani> so no fix available yet
[05:42] <void^> don't know about fixes, i think i've seen some workarounds on their sourceforge forums
[05:42] <void^> anyway you may want to check there for information..
[05:42] <Rdde> Anyone ever used a software raid5 under ubuntu?
[05:42] <niki> wb Newbieee
[05:43] <cyberix> tristanmike: They read my mind http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-40592.html
[05:43] <Tiberian> !alien
[05:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[05:43] <Newbieee> I am so puzzled niki...with ubuntu but happy ...just thenical problems....
[05:43] <tristanmike> cyberix: see that, they're on the ball, thanx for the link...bookmarking now :)
[05:43] <niki> Newbieee, thenical problems???
[05:43] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i'm trying "mail-notification" which is in universe. setting up an imap mailbox and the option for SSL/TLS is greyed out... any ideas?
[05:44] <Newbieee> yes I cant install Drivers for Wireless...Skype...my camera....:)
[05:45] <Thralas> I've edited /etc/fstab and want to reload 2 partitions, mount -a (auto?) didn't do it for me, and umount /media/hda1 gave a 'busy' error, any way to do it without rebooting?
[05:45] <Heroin> i didnt manage to resize the partitions via partitionmagic, but iam going to install ubuntu on C:\ and see what happens :P worst case ill have to format the entire drive
[05:46] <oskude> !remount
[05:46] <ubotu> oskude: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:46] <Thralas> Heroin, try gparted?
[05:46] <oskude> !mount
[05:46] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[05:47] <niki> Newbieee, i can't PM, i'm not registered
[05:47] <Heroin> Thralas iam just going to install ubuntu and then resize it after that :P whats the worst that can happen =] 
[05:47] <Thralas> Figured that osfameron
[05:47] <sks> Are the official GNOME 2.14 builds  fro breezy out ?
[05:47] <Thralas> oskude,
[05:47] <Plumachau> Hello
[05:47] <jager> hey could anyone give me some help w a soundcard issue?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> sks: no and more than likely it wont happen
[05:47] <Newbieee> niki register...pls
[05:47] <Plumachau> is anyone speak french here ?
[05:48] <niki> Newbieee, join #lopzided
[05:48] <gnomefreak> sks: you will run into dependency issues trying to get it to run on breezy
[05:48] <Heroin> Plumachau on the ubuntu site it lists a couple of mirc channels per language and i believe there is a french 1
[05:48] <gnomefreak> Plumachau: #ubuntu-fr
[05:48] <Plumachau> Thanks
[05:48] <Thralas> IT did unmount it seems. Oops
[05:48] <sks> gnomefreak: Does that mean I need to Upgrade to Ubuntu Next version if I want a newer GNOME ?
[05:49] <Heroin> no, you can just get a newer gnome version
[05:49] <gnomefreak> sks: yes and i would wait till its released
[05:49] <Heroin> apt-get update
[05:49] <CarlFK> chmod 700 foo && scp foo carl@dev:a - what defines the rights dev:a/foo will have?  I need 744
[05:49] <gnomefreak> Heroin: no you cant
[05:49] <Heroin> apt-get install gnome ? i think thats teh debian way
[05:49] <gnomefreak> no gnome 2.14 will _not_ work on breezy
[05:50] <gnomefreak> they might backport it but i dont see it happening do to too many depends
[05:51] <jager> im new to ubuntu started yesterday and got things running but i dont get any sound, do i need a driver or some?
[05:51] <[Ag0ny] > so I have an averatec c3500 and am running breezy 5.10, and cannot get my pcmcia port to be recognized.  any pointers?
[05:51] <cyberix> Can I search the hwdb for a specific piece of hardware?
[05:53] <sks> What is the mozilla beagle plugin called ?
[05:54] <oskude> jager, yes, you need drivers as in any other os, first start would be try command "lspci" to see if you can see the device (if it is a pci sound card/chip)
[05:54] <arrick> how am I supposed to read a readme in another language?
[05:54] <oskude> jager, or maybe with luck its just muted, try the speaker icon on the panel (right top)
[05:55] <sks> arrick: Google Translate ;)
[05:55] <arrick> hey, what languauge is this? 'utilzatorilor?
[05:56] <jager> oskude: ive tried the sound panel thingy and only thing that was muted was pc speaker
[05:57] <sks> arrick: A google search suggests Romanian!
[05:57] <Rdde> is there any easy way fo remove ntfs parti.. and reformat the disk whit ext? (it isnt the system disk) fdisk in ubuntu seams so complicated
[05:57] <arrick> ok thanks
[05:58] <oskude> jager, is there any sound card in the list at System - Preferences - Sound ?
[05:58] <jaume_> ok anybody knows how to change the internet connection settings to set a faster connexion?
[05:58] <jdumont> test
[05:58] <void^> ..set a faster connection?
[05:59] <jager> oskude:HDA Intel
[06:00] <oskude> jager, in the sound card list ? hmm, then it should work, look for problems else where, volume up, speakers connected and are on...
[06:01] <oskude> jager, can you hear the "Sound Events" in System - Preferences - Sound ?
[06:01] <jaume_> yes I mean when I download a file frn icq or even with webradio stream I mark that is going slowler than with my old windows os....mabye I set something wrong in my connection settings..
[06:01] <jager> oskude: in lspci i can see High definition audio controller
[06:01] <jager> oskude: acculy i tired that
[06:01] <drape> how can you increase the firefox java heap size on linux?
[06:02] <drape> there isn't a java runtime configuration in firefox.
[06:02] <moein> I got this error after installing Ubuntu 5.10, "ata1: BUG: timeout without command", until when I install Ubuntu 5.04, it works correctly. my laptop is Sony Vaio VGNS58GP, with SATA hard disk. Chipset is Intel ICH6(M) PIIX
[06:02] <moein> anybody knows whats wrong ?
[06:03] <jager> oskude:  forget it my bad
[06:03] <jager> oskude: i figured it out.. on volum controll its file and i can then chose from two audio cards
[06:03] <mykelm03> can someone help me?
[06:03] <oskude> jager, :)
[06:04] <jager> oskude: its was muted so thanks dude
[06:04] <mykelm03> i cant go to the ubuntu website
[06:04] <oskude> jager, ive heard many times that it was just muted, so i was lucky :)
[06:04] <Heroin> howcocme u cant go to the ubuntu website?
[06:04] <whyami> I have a package which says it is broken but runs fine. Anything I should do?
[06:05] <tbender> help
[06:05] <Blippe> mykelm03, what's your problem?
[06:05] <tbender> my dapper install results in unsolved dependencies
[06:05] <Blippe> whyami, is it perhaps skype?
[06:05] <jager> oskude: hehe still taking the time helps easier to find the problem then =) btw how can i install programs that i download?
[06:05] <whyami> Blippe: no it's dvdstyler
[06:05] <Blippe> tbender, it is in beta!
[06:05] <gnomefreak> tbender: see #ubuntu+1 please
[06:05] <tbender> when I try apt-get -f install it fails with an error in debconf
[06:05] <mykelm03> im receiving this message in firefox, "the connection was refused when attemting to contact www.ubuntu.com"???
[06:05] <tbender> k
[06:06] <oskude> jager, if your sure they are for ubuntu of your choice and type "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"
[06:06] <jenda> Is there a way i could create my own highlighting system in GEDIT? i'm looking for a way to have [red|green]  filtered in a document (that is all the text between a | and a ]  is green, all the text between a [ and a | is red.) any ideas?
[06:06] <Blippe> mykelm03, might be down?
[06:06] <mykelm03> im trying the site since the other day
[06:06] <mykelm03> is it down?
[06:07] <oskude> jager, and if your not running the command in the same place the file is, "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb"
[06:07] <lillpelle> mykelm03: it works here. Does other sites work?
[06:08] <mykelm03> yeah
[06:08] <mykelm03> just when i try browsing the ubuntu site
[06:08] <jager> oskude: thanks dude will give it a try
[06:08] <mykelm03> i cant connect
[06:09] <Blippe> jenda, start here http://live.gnome.org/GtkSourceView/NewLangFormat?highlight=%28highlight%29 and look at the files you already have
[06:09] <oskude> jager, before you install any debs, please check if the package is allready in the ubuntu reposities...
[06:10] <draz> siema
[06:10] <jager> oskude: you mean like in the add remove thing?
[06:10] <jenda> Blippe: thanks
[06:10] <lillpelle> mykelm03: strange. I got no ideas...
[06:11] <mykelm03> whhhaaaaaa
[06:11] <pasman> How do I change the status of a installed service (e.g apache2) to not be be started at boot, to only be started when I want to (e.g by using apache2ctl) ?
[06:11] <Blippe> jager, yes and in synaptic (that is the thing you get when you choose advanced in the add/remove thingie)
[06:11] <nook> I want to build wine from sources, but it takes a lot of free space on drive. On my linux partition I have only 1GB space, and it's way to little. Can I download sources and build it on say /media/hda5 ? Can I delete these files after I run dpkg -i wine.deb or they'll be required to running wine?
[06:11] <Blippe> pasman, i am not sure, but i think apache is started with inet check in your /etc/ folder
[06:12] <oskude> jager, yup, synaptic or apt-get from terminal
[06:12] <Blippe> nook, yes on all accounts. you can remove them
[06:12] <remote> what is the room for dapper chat?
[06:12] <jenda> Blippe: way too complicated for me :)
[06:12] <remote> gnomefreak, do you know the room for Dapper chat?
[06:12] <pasman> Blippe: There is nor GUI to use to enable a service at boot or not ?
[06:12] <Frogzoo> #ubuntu+1
[06:12] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1 remote
[06:12] <Blippe> nook, you could try to run "apt-get clean" too!
[06:13] <remote> gnomefreak, thanks mate
[06:13] <nook> Blipe: after I download sources they takes about 900MB of free space. What do You think, how much space do I need to compile it?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> yw remote
[06:13] <jager> well how does the apt-get work?
[06:14] <Blippe> nook, youe looked in system -administration - services?
[06:14] <jager> i tried it some but didnt really work out the way i wanted it to
[06:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jager about apt
[06:14] <nook> Blippe: no, what's that?
[06:14] <Blippe> jager, it downloads prepackaged programs and libraries from the ubuntu servers!
[06:14] <nook> Blippe: I have. Only needed stuff.
[06:15] <jager> blippe: but not all software will be there..?
[06:15] <Blippe> nook, apache aint in there?
[06:15] <oskude> jager, "apt-cache search blah" would search for packages or programs or descriptions you can install, like "apt-cache search text editor" "apt-cache search nano"
[06:15] <nook> Blippe: I use apache. So..?
[06:15] <Blippe> nook, my apache is in there!
[06:15] <jager> oskude: alrite
[06:15] <nook> Blippe: I didn't take your apache
[06:16] <flavia> hello! what is the name of a good cd burning program? I tryed Graveman, K3B and Gnomebake but they all seems to need the su privilge to work
[06:16] <oskude> jager, "apt-get install nano" would install a package named "nano" (you need "sudo" in front of that command)
[06:16] <Blippe> nook, it is for services that is active, uncheck apache and it is unactive, but still installed on your system!
[06:16] <oskude> jager, "apt-cache show nano" would show more information about the package named "nano"
[06:16] <nook> Blippe: I do use apache.
[06:16] <Heroin> how long does it take for a new ubuntu 5.04 to update itself.. its taking forever :|
[06:17] <nook> nook: I haven't mentiont about apache. I have just asked how many free space does it take to compile about 900MB sources.
[06:17] <Heroin> nano is crap vi for me :P
[06:17] <Blippe> nook, good for you. didn't you want it to not run at boot?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> vi owns You. :P
[06:17] <Heroin> yes it does :P i dont like nano
[06:17] <nook> Blippe: apache isn't the point. Whatever.
[06:17] <oskude> jager, and "synaptic" is (more or less) a graphical front end to apt-get
[06:17] <Heroin> apache isnt 900MB!
[06:18] <Heroin> my webserver with everything on it (debian net install) is 700mb
[06:18] <Blippe> Heroin, sorry nook, mmixed you with someone else, sorry...
[06:18] <graveson> does anyone have experience with a maxtor RAID 0 device
[06:18] <Heroin> incl apache + modules + mysql + proftpd + mailserv
[06:18] <nook> Blippe: np
[06:18] <oskude> jager, and theres allso "aptitude" that has a text mode "gui", and allso command line like "sudo aptitude install nano"
[06:19] <oskude> jager, but im used to "apt-get", so thats what i use first...
[06:19] <jager> oskude: how long have you been using linux?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> ive heard that 'aptitude install ....' is better in many ways then 'apt-get install' (not sure why however)
[06:19] <oskude> jager, as main os, 4 years or so...
[06:20] <jager> oskude: it seems so.... clean in a way
[06:20] <Blippe> jenda, don't try to create a new one, look up the ones you've got, copy one of them (preferably the smallest one) and edit it to your liking
[06:20] <Heroin> aptitude tracks what u installed and stuff
[06:20] <jenda> Blippe: OK... i'll try that.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Heroin,  yea - somthing like that
[06:21] <Heroin> its apt-get but then wanne b more advanced IMHO, iam not the most exp. linux user
[06:21] <jager> oskude: i got about 2-3 months before i start in a job where im gonna use this daily also program in ruby on rails
[06:21] <Blippe> Dr_Willis, aptitude allows you to remove metapackages dependencies too, like to remove all of kde if you installed it with aptitude and then tried to remove it with aptitude
[06:21] <jager> oskude you know ruby?
[06:21] <Tiberian> !kpackage
[06:21] <ubotu> Tiberian: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:21] <Tiberian> Huh uh? bah!
[06:21] <oskude> jager, know, but havent learned it (yet)
[06:21] <Tiberian> >.<
[06:22] <jager> oskude alrite well it aint that hard really, ruby at least
[06:22] <jager> dunno about rails though
[06:22] <jenda> Blippe: But I need a little explaining. It seems to me that it has nothing to do with gedit, right? What is gtksourceview?
[06:22] <arrick> how do I search for a file in ubuntu?
[06:23] <jager> synaptic was a great help seems like i can find what i need now, thanks guys ;)
[06:23] <Frogzoo> arrick: locate filename
[06:23] <arrick> I downloaded it, but i don't know where it went, now in home
[06:23] <arrick> ok
[06:23] <arrick> thabnks
[06:23] <neo911> how do i specify the API version in man pages say i want gethostbyname(3)? thx.
[06:23] <Frogzoo> arrick: find . -name filename    (the locate db won't be up to date)
[06:23] <Frogzoo> neo911: man 3 printf
[06:24] <arrick> ok
[06:25] <treyh0> _jason: universe and multiverse are not maintained by the security team are they, it's all volunteer?
[06:25] <kicki> hallo to all
[06:25] <matt_> hi
[06:25] <_jason> treyh0: it's maintained by motu
[06:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell treyh0 about components
[06:26] <kicki> i am new ubuntu user from poland
[06:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell treyh0 about motu
[06:27] <arrick> man, it didnt come through
[06:27] <arrick> how do I download a file through the terminal?
[06:27] <Frogzoo> arrick: wget URL
[06:27] <arrick> thanks
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  wget, or curl are commands for that.
[06:28] <Frogzoo> arrick: probly need to install wget though
[06:29] <oskude> arrick, "locate" searches in a database, so if you database is not uptodate (will be made daily) do "sudo updatedb"
[06:29] <matt_> is there somebody who wants to help me routing internet through Ubuntu (2 network cards, 1 connected to the internet, other needs to be connected to the internet)
[06:30] <void^> use firestarter
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> matt_,   i think firestarter makes that a few clicks and its done..
[06:32] <matt_> oke
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> matt_,  you may want to read the ip masquerading howto also.
[06:32] <matt_> there isn't a way to do it without additional programs?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> matt_,  read the ip masquerading howto.  :)
[06:33] <matt_> oke :) tnx Dr_Willis
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> its a simple thing with 'lots' of details.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu wiki/forums may have some guides also
[06:34] <harm_> hi, does anyone know how i canget CS1.6 to work :P
[06:34] <Silencer> how to disable any clock synchronize in ubuntu
[06:34] <Silencer> any proces that change my time on linux
[06:34] <mouldy> hey all, how do i change the image that ubuntu logo next to the applications menu?
[06:34] <mds\> Anyone else dealing with krfb crashing a few seconds after accepting a connection?
[06:34] <itay> Hi, Does anybody can help me installing Flashplayer on ubuntu 64 bit????
[06:34] <jenda> Blippe: Could you please point me the right way? I'm not sure what it is you linked me to. I don't know what gtksourceview is (I know what gtk is), and I don't know where to find the one file I want to overwrite to suit my needs.
[06:35] <mouldy> harm_ check out linux-gamers.org
[06:35] <mouldy> itay: I'm not entirely sure, but you need to install a 32 bit browser
[06:35] <arrick> what is wrong with this picture?
[06:35] <mouldy> what picture?
[06:36] <jenda> Blippe: Actually, I just got it - but, where do I find gedit's language defining files?
[06:36] <arrick> 'mv ./x125-drv-0.2.3.tar.gz ./prndriver/x125-drv-0.2.3.tar.gz' ?
[06:36] <mouldy> hey all, how do i change the image that ubuntu logo next to the applications menu?
[06:36] <arrick> what is wrong with this picture?
[06:36] <arrick> 'mv ./x125-drv-0.2.3.tar.gz ./prndriver/x125-drv-0.2.3.tar.gz' ?
[06:37] <arrick> ?
[06:37] <harm_> thank you mouldy looks good
[06:37] <mouldy> harm_: no prob =)
[06:37] <itay> moudly: I figured it out but whern I type "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux 32" i get "E: couldnot find package linux32
[06:37] <Blippe> jenda, i don't know, search for xml and gedit on your computer!
[06:37] <arrick> itay, try using synaptic
[06:38] <Blippe> and don't overwrite the old ones...
[06:38] <mouldy> itay: Sorry I'm not more use to you, I have a 64bit CPU but installed 32bit linux to save the hassle
[06:38] <mouldy> arrick: are you talking to me?
[06:38] <arrick> mouldy, nope
[06:38] <itay> arrick: sorry about the dum question, but what is synaptic? Very new to Linux....
[06:39] <arrick> do you haev gnome?
[06:39] <arrick> itay, do you have gnome installed?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> synaptic is a front end to apt-get
[06:39] <mouldy> arrick: ok, soryr, getting muddled up a bit :p
[06:39] <itay> moudly: will it run ok? 32 bit installation I mean?
[06:39] <mouldy> yeah
[06:39] <itay> arrick: yea, I have it
[06:39] <mouldy> works 100% fine here
[06:40] <arrick> to get to synaptic, go to system>admin>synaptic
[06:40] <arrick> then look for the file
[06:41] <thenetduck> join /#ubuntu-utah
[06:41] <itay> arrick: you mean "linux32" right?
[06:41] <arrick> yeah
[06:42] <itay> found it. but what should i do now?
[06:42] <arrick> Mark for istall
[06:42] <arrick> by right clicking
[06:42] <arrick> !synaptic
[06:42] <ubotu> synaptic is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:43] <kenas> how can i access as a root user ?
[06:43] <arrick> you dont wnat too
[06:43] <jenda> Blippe OK...
[06:43] <itay> where do i type !synaptic
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> !root
[06:44] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:44] <arrick> thats a tutorial right below that , that you can use to help you with synaptic
[06:44] <arrick> !synaptic
[06:44] <ubotu> synaptic is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:44] <arrick> go to that page, and read up on it
[06:45] <arrick> I foudn it worthwhile for me last noght
[06:45] <itay> ok, thank u very much :)
[06:45] <arrick> np:
[06:46] <arrick> I'm currently in terminal at Desktop/prndriver directory, how do I return to Desktop dir?
[06:46] <arrick> I know to use cd
[06:46] <arrick> but where to from there
[06:46] <oskude> arrick, cd ..
[06:47] <arrick> thanks
[06:47] <arrick> I forgot
[06:47] <oskude> "cd" brings you home, "cd .." one directory up, "cd -" to the directory you where before the last cd command
[06:49] <arrick> if a file is listed under '*@linux:~$' How do I move it to '/Desktop/prndriver' ?
[06:50] <arrick> never mind, I had a typo
[06:52] <oskude> arrick, that "$" in your prompt means its your home, you can access home with "~" or is mostly at "/home/yourusername", so "cp ~/myfile ./newpath/" would be same as "cp /home/myusername/myfile ./newpath/"
[06:52] <arrick> how to unzip 'X125-drv-0.2.3.tar.gz
[06:52] <arrick> '?
[06:52] <arrick> in terminal
[06:53] <oskude> tar -xvzf file
[06:54] <arrick> it says not in gzip format?
[06:55] <matt_> Dr_Willis, it's working, my internet is shared (without using firestarter), tnx!
[06:57] <c4r105> hi
[06:58] <slack_prad> hi c4r105
[06:58] <c4r105> need help to install firefox 1.5 on mi ubuntu system
[06:59] <cod> !tell me about ntfs
[06:59] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[06:59] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:59] <gnomefreak> c4r105: folllow that word for word and youll be good
[06:59] <arrick> oskude: when try to unzip using the terminal, it says it is not in gzip format, plz help
[06:59] <michal`> who's here using ubuntu on PB with r300 driver ?
[06:59] <gnomefreak> ^^ very good guide
[06:59] <slack_prad> c4r105: get the firefox.tar.gz
[06:59] <gnomefreak> arrick: what is the format of the file you downloaded?
[07:00] <slack_prad> c4r105: get the firefox-version.tar.gz
[07:00] <c4r105> yes
[07:00] <arrick> gnomefreak, X125-drv-0.2.3.tar.gz
[07:00] <oskude> arrick, where did you get that file ? i never seen that *.tar.gz was not a gzip...
[07:00] <gnomefreak> !tar
[07:00] <arrick> oskude, it is a printerdriver, maybe bad?
[07:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell arrick about tar
[07:00] <fredforfaen> is dapper out yet?
[07:01] <niki> what is the difference between synaptic and System/Administration/Add Applications ?
[07:01] <gnomefreak> fredforfaen: june 1st
[07:01] <c4r105> i check -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:01] <fredforfaen> ah thanx gnomefreak
[07:01] <gnomefreak> niki: synaptic does more
[07:01] <arrick> the ubotu guide is an old version that doenst work, been through that last night
[07:01] <oskude> arrick, you could try to download it again...
[07:01] <gnomefreak> c4r105: yes use that wiki
[07:01] <arrick> yeah I will
[07:01] <c4r105> thank friends
[07:01] <gnomefreak> ubuntu guide?
[07:02] <greg__> hallo everybody i have a bugs with ax25 on the kernel 2.6.12 how to update it???
[07:02] <gnomefreak> it gave you untaring instructions not a guide
[07:03] <harm_> i can upgrade 5.04 to 5.10 with apt-get -d dist-upgrade?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> to untar you tar -xvzf file.tar.gz
[07:03] <gnomefreak> harm yes
[07:03] <c4r105> hugs from Per (Lima)
[07:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell harm_ about upgrade
[07:03] <c4r105> bye
[07:03] <harm_> thx gnome
[07:03] <slack_prad> c4r105: bye :)
[07:04] <gnomefreak> harm_: make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed (its a meta package so just dont assume its there please check)
[07:05] <greg__> how can update the kernel from 2.6.12 at 2.6.16???
[07:05] <harm_> Gnomefreak thanks you :) clear as glass now
[07:06] <valberg> i need help with configuring xorg, i get this error: "Caught signal 4. Server aborting" anyone familiar with that ?
[07:09] <XVampireX> Hi!
[07:09] <niki> Hi!
[07:09] <XVampireX> I just received Ubuntu on mail :)
[07:09] <straylite> hi guys; i'm having some trouble using lvmcfg; i get 'file descriptor 3 left open' and a seg fault. any ideas?
[07:09] <XVampireX> Running Live CD now
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Yo!
[07:09] <XVampireX> VERY nice Distro!
[07:10] <niki> XVampireX, yeah!
[07:10] <XVampireX> :)
[07:10] <niki> XVampireX, it r0x my s0x :))
[07:10] <XVampireX> :P
[07:10] <[Ag0ny] > anybody here have experience in detecting hardware that by default is unknown?
[07:10] <eizesus> hi, i need some video plugins for konqurer... where do i get some?
[07:11] <[Ag0ny] > I can't get my pcmcia slot to show up in the device manager
[07:11] <mark_> any suggestions on how to sync tomboy notes between different machines?
[07:11] <XVampireX> Uhm, I will need some help right now, does this thing have a graphics configurator (For example, resolution...)
[07:12] <niki> XVampireX, yes...check under System/Preferences
[07:12] <kling0n> hello :)
[07:12] <niki> XVampireX, System/Preferences/Screen Resolution
[07:13] <XVampireX> Thanks niki ^_^
[07:13] <niki> XVampireX, my pleasure :)
[07:13] <kling0n> i have a question regarding dpkg-buildpackage
[07:13] <arrick> oskude, I downloaded it agina dn it still syas the same thing
[07:13] <XVampireX> Uhm, weird... the desktop isn't centered even though it's running at optimal resolution
[07:13] <arrick> xvampire, neither is mine
[07:14] <kling0n> i get this error trying to build a package
[07:14] <kling0n> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:14] <mark_> I have two desktops and a laptop
[07:14] <kling0n> does not occur when building as root
[07:14] <mark_> and I would like to sync my tomboy notes between them
[07:14] <XVampireX> arrick: How come? Is it supposed to be like that?
[07:14] <arrick> mine is too big for the screen at 600X800
[07:14] <kling0n> and I can compile cleanly outside the dpkgtools
[07:14] <arrick> dont know, im too new to answett hat
[07:14] <XVampireX> 1024x768 75hz
[07:14] <mark_> any ideas besides manually scp'ing ~/.tomboy between them?
[07:14] <eizesus> so there are no video plugins for konquerer?
[07:15] <XVampireX> Can I center the desktop somehow?
[07:15] <tamale> can VLC or M player open files on a network?   For some reason only totem player is doing this for me now, but it kinda sucks (the buffering takes forever)
[07:15] <oskude> brb
[07:15] <kling0n> eizesus, try looking at kdemultimedia
[07:16] <kling0n> tamale, are you streaming from a samba share?
[07:16] <kling0n> or maybe a windows share?
[07:16] <tamale> klingon, yes
[07:16] <tamale> samba windows
[07:16] <XVampireX> Can anyone tell me if I can somehow center the desktop other than my monitor?
[07:16] <kling0n> tamale, apt-get smbfs
[07:16] <tamale> doesn't that come pre-installed ?
[07:16] <kling0n> then smbmount the share
[07:17] <kling0n> 'which smbmount'
[07:17] <kling0n> if you dont have, youll need it :)
[07:17] <valberg_> no one who has encountered a "Caught signal 4. Server aborting." when trying to start xorg on a radeon xpress 200m ?
[07:17] <kling0n> theres a difference between accessing smb shares and mounting them
[07:17] <arrick> Klingon, what do the uss enterprize and toilet paper haev in common?
[07:17] <tamale> i wouldn't be able to see the windows folders already without it, correct?
[07:17] <tamale> OH!
[07:17] <tamale> I gotcha
[07:17] <tamale> mounting them will let me access them starting with  /  instead of   smb:///blah blah blah
[07:17] <tamale> right?
[07:17] <niki> valberg, did you try reconfigurinjg?
[07:17] <kling0n> still, any debian package maintainers online?
[07:18] <kling0n> 'tis an annoying issue
[07:18] <kling0n> aww heck... ill build it as root in stead
[07:18] <kling0n> :)
[07:18] <valberg_> niki: aye i tried alot... but a strange thing is that when i change the driver into vesa it just says "no screens found"
[07:18] <tamale> klingon, is that correct ?
[07:18] <linuxshop> does any one know how to change the 404 page in apache?? please i dont ppl seeing what port my server is running
[07:18] <arrick> Sorry kling0n
[07:19] <straylite> linuxshop: yeah: ErrorDocument 404 /file.html
[07:19] <niki> valberg, dunno, sorry...reconfiguring was all i could think of...i just saw you repeating yourself and thought i'd throw it out there :P
[07:19] <tamale> also, how can I tell what driver my video card is currently using ?
[07:19] <valberg_> niki: heh heh okey then ;) thnx anyway
[07:19] <niki> valberg, np :)
[07:19] <pokerface> thanks straylite but what would the directory be /var or /etc or ???
[07:19] <arrick> !fileroller
[07:19] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[07:20] <jackie> Hello people! A friend om mine runs warty.. Can he just upgrade to hoary? I.e can I give him a new sources.list?
[07:20] <XVampireX> Hello?
[07:20] <arrick> yeha
[07:20] <harm_> jackie yes
[07:20] <harm_> iam doing the same thing right now
[07:20] <kling0n> tamale,  yes
[07:20] <niki> hello!
[07:20] <XVampireX> Can anyone tell me how to center the desktop because it goes slightly to the right?
[07:20] <jackie> harm_ like this one? http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:20] <harm_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:20] <harm_> iam using that one jackie
[07:20] <niki> XVampireX, use your monitor buttons?
[07:20] <tamale> Vampire, are you sure it's not your monitor ?
[07:21] <harm_> iam upgrading via Apt-Get
[07:21] <XVampireX> Other than the monitor buttons? :P
[07:21] <tamale> well, do the monitor buttons fix the problem?
[07:21] <XVampireX> Cause I use this resolution on windows and it works fine
[07:21] <tamale> it could be a differen tmode
[07:22] <XVampireX> I can do it, but I wanna see if I can do it through some program in this distro
[07:22] <tamale> different refresh rates even on the same resolution will make your monitor forget its programming
[07:22] <kling0n> XVampireX, xvidtune
[07:22] <niki> XVampireX, i don't think you can....you'll probably have to use the monitor buttons
[07:22] <niki> god forbid...lol
[07:22] <XVampireX> Oh, alright, thanks anyways
[07:22] <tamale> no, it's a good question
[07:22] <arrick> if he changes it with the monitor buttons, he'll have to change it for windows when he boots there
[07:22] <kling0n> XVampireX, use xvidtune
[07:22] <tamale> took me a while to figure that out
[07:22] <arrick> XVampireX, hang on
[07:22] <kling0n> XVampireX, it will let yo udo it
[07:22] <abre> are nfs shares significantly better than samba
[07:22] <ScreaminIke> lets say that i have a folder filled with files titled "Blah_Blah_blah_<whatever>.mp3" and i just want them to be named "<whatever>.mp3"
[07:22] <ScreaminIke> how do i do that?
[07:22] <tamale> aaric, no, it will save settings for each 'mode' most likely
[07:23] <niki> XVampireX, oh...didn't realize you were dual booting :P
[07:23] <pokerface> thanks straylite but what would the directory be /var or /etc or ???
[07:23] <jackie> har
[07:23] <CrazyDoode> hi, could someone please give me the kernel version of Ubuntu current.
[07:23] <kling0n> abre, some would say that you get better performance, but nfs i vulnerable to connection los
[07:23] <XVampireX> niki: Live CD
[07:23] <jackie> harm_ ok! I'l try! thnx
[07:23] <kling0n> loss
[07:23] <arrick> XVampireX, I was given a lnk for screen resolution last night, can remember what it was though
[07:23] <arrick> !screen resolution
[07:23] <ubotu> arrick: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:23] <XVampireX> I will be doing clean install when I'm done with windows tasks
[07:23] <niki> XVampireX, ah
[07:23] <arrick> !screen
[07:23] <ubotu> hmm... screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen AND http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/
[07:23] <niki> lol
[07:24] <arrick> !display
[07:24] <ubotu> hmm... display is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[07:24] <arrick> there you go
[07:24] <arrick> check that out
[07:24] <PseudoPlacebo> Yay! I have photoshop again! Yaaaaay!
[07:24] <tamale> i still say he doesn't need to go through all that trouble.. most CRT's remember settings for many different resolution / refresh rate combinations
[07:24] <arrick> XVampireX, follow my last link
[07:24] <kling0n> ScreaminIke, "for i in `ls *.mp3`; do name=`echo $i | sed -r 's/Blah_blah_blah//g'`;mv "$i" "$name";done
[07:24] <tamale> most likely his windows and linux refresh rates are just different
[07:25] <XVampireX> thanks
[07:25] <arrick> tomale, not according to those pages
[07:25] <arrick> ok
[07:25] <tamale> those pages are talking about software changes
[07:25] <tamale> i'm talking about the monitor's built-in memory
[07:25] <abre> kling0n, how better is the performance
[07:26] <kling0n> abre,  no clue.. i use samba/CIFS
[07:26] <imc_> Xorg hell with new Breezy install: Insufficient memory for mode. It seems to be trying lots of high res settings I specifically deactivated in the config. Any help?
[07:26] <ScreaminIke> klingon, is that bash?
[07:26] <abre> kling0n, fair enough
[07:27] <sfar-ubu> how to search in terminal for packets that are installed?
[07:27] <tamale> does anyone know how I can tell what driver is currently being used for my video card?
[07:27] <pokerface> how am i suppose to find the 404 page for apache
[07:27] <imc_> I have an ATI radeon 200, and it was working under Dapper ....
[07:27] <elijah> hi all..im a newbie:)
[07:28] <imc_> pokerface what are you asking?
[07:28] <tamale> pokerface:  have you looked at the doc pages for apache yet?  I think it's pretty well documents
[07:28] <tamale> *documented
[07:28] <kling0n> ScreaminIke, yes... bash and sed
[07:28] <pokerface> i did but i cant find how to change the 404 error page
[07:28] <kling0n> ScreaminIke, for csh, use "foreach i (`ls *,mp3`)
[07:28] <pokerface> i dont want others to know im running apache
[07:28] <imc_> .htaccess specify it there
[07:28] <imc_> pokerface
[07:28] <imc_> or in the apache config....
[07:28] <tamale> you probably don't have hidden folders turned on
[07:28] <pokerface> looked
[07:29] <tamale> .htaccess is a hidden folder
[07:29] <kling0n> .htaccess is a file :)
[07:29] <tamale> hidden file  ;)
[07:29] <kling0n> yup
[07:29] <tamale> hehe
[07:29] <tamale> my bad.
[07:29] <elijah> no one said hi to me:(
[07:29] <pokerface> hhow do u turn on hidden file?
[07:29] <kling0n> until the l33t uz3r discovers ls -al
[07:29] <tamale> well, ls -a  will show it
[07:29] <tamale> (a for 'all' )
[07:29] <azurehuesofblue> I have a GeForce 5500 video card with dual head display, I can't config the xorg.config right... I've tried SO HARD... anyone know anything?
[07:29] <imc_> elijah, Hi. What can we do for you
[07:30] <tamale> haha azure, I'm wrestling with that myself... I wish I knew how to help you
[07:30] <tamale> ubuntu seriously needs a simple dual display manager like windows'
[07:30] <azurehuesofblue> tamale yeah, we talked yesterday... it's frickin impossible lol... I'll be so happy when I get it.
[07:31] <XVampireX> How do I open up the console?
[07:31] <pokerface> htaccess isnt what i want thoug! or i think it isnt
[07:31] <imc_> pokerface, try the apache chat room
[07:31] <pokerface> where that at?
[07:32] <niki> pokerface, /j #apache
[07:32] <XVampireX> nevermind my question
[07:32] <pokerface> ty
[07:33] <kling0n> tamale and azure: there is a setting in the settings manager for dual displays
[07:33] <tamale> 'settings manager'  ?
[07:33] <kling0n> dont use udal-head myself atm though
[07:33] <imc_> Okay xorg conf hell: doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure sxerver-xorg under breezy I set everything right, but still getting twazz-outs every time I start x, with tons of monitor resolutions being tried and failing despite configuration.
[07:33] <kling0n> are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:33] <imc_> ubuntu
[07:33] <tamale> ubuntu
[07:33] <kling0n> bleh.. are you using kde?
[07:33] <azurehuesofblue> me too
[07:33] <kling0n> hmm try installling the kde-desktop package
[07:33] <tamale> ubuntu is gnome, no ?
[07:33] <imc_> Sorr, kling0n, thought you meant me ;)
[07:34] <kling0n> ive never worked with gnome
[07:34] <kling0n> but the kde package has a nice settings manager
[07:34] <tamale> imc_: you're having the same problem as my bro... he's got SLI'd 6600 gt's and can't get a screen to come up in X
[07:34] <kling0n> but you should be able to hack it into place in the xorg.conf
[07:34] <[Ag0ny] > can anyone help me with getting recognition of an unknown device?
[07:34] <[FR33_B33R] > !beer
[07:35] <green_earz> azurehuesofblue: have a look at > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi    you should be able to find out what the module name for your video card there, it may be of some use
[07:35] <tamale> the problem is my two monitors have different resolutions
[07:35] <kling0n> or just check this: http://www.wahlau.org/ubuntu_hoary_thinkpad_t43_and_xorg_dual_head_display
[07:35] <azurehuesofblue> green_earz... OK.
[07:35] <[FR33_B33R] > hey... heres my problem... both ROSEGARDEN and HYDROGEN cant locate my ALSA sequencer
[07:35] <spy5> supppp all
[07:35] <kling0n> always better to do xorgs mods yourself
[07:35] <green_earz> azurehuesofblue: just in case it the wrong module thats being install ?
[07:36] <azurehuesofblue> Kling0n ok, I will I don't mind installing kde
[07:36] <kling0n> [FR33_B33R] , log output?
[07:36] <elijah> hey when will ubuntu dapper release plz say? in april or after that?
[07:36] <jackie> harm_ Hi.. uhmm I replaced the sources.list.. can I just ran apt-get update && dist-upgrade..
[07:36] <trappist> green_earz: holy crap that's a great link
[07:36] <green_earz> thanks
[07:36] <kling0n> elijah, you can use the release candidate
[07:36] <[FR33_B33R] > kling0n, [ERROR]      AlsaMidiDriver      Error opening ALSA sequencer
[07:36] <[FR33_B33R] > [ERROR]      AlsaAudioDriver     Can't set realtime scheduling for ALSA Driver
[07:36] <spy5> allo
[07:36] <tamale> kling0n:  modifying the xorg.conf file is a real pain if you've never done it before though.. it's like learning an entirely new programming language
[07:37] <tamale> it's inexcusable to be asked to learn how to program something like that just to get something like dual monitors working  ;)
[07:37] <green_earz> trappist: its handy to for getting the module names for the pci cards
[07:37] <kling0n> remember to backup, kill the kdm and use startx to check if it works
[07:37] <matt_> are there updates for Ubuntu, just like windows-update for windows?
[07:37] <kling0n> or just use the nice, kde-.provided dual head manager :)
[07:38] <tamale> i'll give that a shot.  do you know if it offers different resolutions for each display?
[07:38] <[FR33_B33R] > how do i restart ALSA?
[07:38] <kling0n> matt_,  yes.. only lots easier and its not supposed to break every week or so
[07:38] <torque> #freenode-antisocial
[07:38] <matt_> kling0n, how can I update my Ubuntu? :)
[07:38] <kling0n> [FR33_B33R] , /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[07:38] <kling0n> matt use adept
[07:39] <tamale> also, sorry if i missed an initial response, but I still don't know how to get info about my current video drivers that are being used
[07:39] <tamale> if anyone knows how to do that i'd sure like to know  :)
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> tamale,  check the xorg.conf file and see what its using.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> tamale,  what card ya got?
[07:39] <tamale> just says "nvidia"
[07:39] <matt_> kling0n, when I say 'adept' in the shell, it says 'command not found' ?
[07:39] <mark__> is there anywhere I can get the essential codecs in .deb form?
[07:40] <chrisn`> mark__, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[07:40] <tamale> on my desktop, a 7800 GT.   i'm positive it's using the current drivers though.   on my laptop, i have a dedicated 5200 GO, but I don't think it's accelerated yet  (the lcd looks like it's not scanning at the most appropriate refresh rate)
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> tamale,  you are using the nvidia drivers then. :P
[07:40] <mark_> chrisn`, ?
[07:40] <kling0n> tamale check Xorg.0.log
[07:40] <kling0n> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:40] <mark__> did that one and still no luck with movie streams from websites
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> tamale,  a lcd is at 60mhz pretty much.. it cant   do anything more/less (i think)
[07:41] <chrisn`> Not sure about .deb file, but apt-get works fine. (Or synaptic. Whichever you're comfortable with)
[07:41] <mark_> oh, help, someone else using the same nick
[07:41] <mark__> lol
[07:41] <kling0n> tamale are you using nvidia?
[07:41] <chrisn`> whoops
[07:41] <kling0n> hmm
[07:41] <tamale> Dr. Willis:  That's what I thought, but I assure you the quality of the display is better in windows.. it doesn't "shake" at all, but in ubuntu it's got the faintest hint of lines
[07:41] <looksaus> mark__, better like this...
[07:41] <tamale> (this is on my laptop)
[07:42] <tamale> the resolution is at least matched though
[07:42] <zebragirl> hi
[07:42] <kling0n> tamale,  thats your sycn settings... look up the tech info on your screen
[07:42] <kling0n> sync even
[07:42] <tamale> i could probably get it from windows too, aye?
[07:42] <tamale> hah
[07:42] <kling0n> for correct vertical and horizontal sync settings
[07:42] <kling0n> or use a proper laptop :)
[07:42] <tamale> i'll look more at it later before asking more questions  :)
[07:42] <tamale> it's a great laptop
[07:42] <kling0n> :P
[07:43] <tamale> toshiba satellite pro
[07:43] <zebragirl> i am VERY new to ubuntu and need some help
[07:43] <tamale> i'm amazed how much of my hardware was detected properly right off the bat.. even the brightness control functions
[07:43] <looksaus> zebragirl, just asking your question will do
[07:43] <zebragirl> i am about to install ubuntu and reformat my drive
[07:43] <tamale> I just wish I knew how to get a wireless network manager
[07:43] <zebragirl> should i use LVM?
[07:43] <matt_> kling0n, it worked when I said 'sudo apt-get update' :)
[07:43] <kling0n> tamale, kismet
[07:43] <tamale> clicking on the network icon helps practically none
[07:43] <kling0n> :D
[07:43] <looksaus> zebragirl, for a desktop install?
[07:44] <tamale> kismet  ?
[07:44] <green_earz> tamale: do a google on for your monitors' refresh rate , horivontal and vertical
[07:44] <zebragirl> no, cd
[07:44] <kling0n> or kwifimanagger
[07:44] <kling0n> manager
[07:44] <tamale> sounds like KDE stuff again
[07:44] <tamale> lol
[07:44] <imc_> zebragirl okay just ask the questions and be as specific as possible
[07:44] <kling0n> or better yet, just configure your wireless card
[07:44] <kling0n> are you using WEP or WPA?
[07:44] <tamale> i move around constantly
[07:44] <looksaus> zebragirl, for a home use computer (desktop or laptop)-> you don't need to
[07:44] <tamale> 7+ wireless networks
[07:44] <imc_> Sorry Zebragirl that was in memory and I didn't mean to send it again!
[07:44] <kling0n> wpa_supplicant client configurations is very user-friendly
[07:45] <tamale> is that a gnome package?
[07:45] <kling0n> no
[07:45] <kling0n> i think its in the restricted repository though
[07:45] <tamale> does it save settings for multiple networks?
[07:45] <kling0n> yes
[07:45] <looksaus> your installation is a little simpler if you don't
[07:45] <zebragirl> ok,  im a windows user, but wont be after today so please be patient with my lack of knowlege
[07:45] <tamale> cool, thanks.. i'll give it a look
[07:45] <looksaus> zebragirl, no problem, this channel is here so we can help you
[07:45] <[FR33_B33R] > kling0n, is the sequencer a part of alsa o do i have to obtain it seperately?
[07:45] <kling0n> tamale, its a console tool
[07:46] <tamale> oh
[07:46] <tamale> lol
[07:46] <babo> Hi guys ... what' the equivalent of the otool on the mac ... for a linux box ?
[07:46] <zebragirl> what info do i need to have when i install ubuntu - i am getting rid of windows for good
[07:46] <kling0n> [FR33_B33R] , dont know... its a MIDI sequencer i presume?
[07:46] <tamale> in case you haven't noticed, i'm not a fan of console tools haha
[07:46] <zebragirl> i thought i should use lvm, but you say no, why?
[07:46] <babo> I want to dissect some of my ELF exectuables
[07:46] <kling0n> zebragirl, just get a backup of your files and run the install :)
[07:46] <skilletsteak> Yo guys, a backup utility for Amazon's S3 just came out
[07:46] <looksaus> zebragirl, know what lvm is?
[07:46] <skilletsteak> http://digg.com/software/Backup_your_files_to_Amazon_s_S3_with_S3backup
[07:46] <[FR33_B33R] > kling0n, yes, illl try looking for it on the forums
[07:47] <zebragirl> sort of
[07:47] <zebragirl> souds like it would be good for me to have down the road when i know more aobut partitioning
[07:47] <looksaus> down the road, yes
[07:47] <looksaus> now: no
[07:48] <zebragirl> so i can change it later with or without reinstalling
[07:48] <elijah> i asked when dapper final will release?:(
[07:48] <looksaus> zebragirl, as a new user, I would go for one big partition plus swap
[07:49] <kling0n> elijah, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases?highlight=%28dapper%29
[07:49] <looksaus> don't make things more difficult to start than you have to
[07:49] <kling0n> elijah, learn to use google :)
[07:49] <zebragirl> dumb question, but will my network still work when windows is gone...i saw somewhere on my system that i have a windows network
[07:49] <zebragirl> also, i saw online that i need to nic cards on my gateway?
[07:49] <looksaus> zebragirl, what hardware are you using to connect to the internet?
[07:50] <zebragirl> cable modem
[07:50] <babo> I want to examine some of my ELF binaries ... which tool ... ????
[07:50] <looksaus> wired? wireless?
[07:50] <zebragirl> both
[07:50] <kling0n> babo, what do you want to do with them?
[07:50] <looksaus> what networking hardware in your computer?
[07:50] <looksaus> the wireless might be really difficult to get working
[07:51] <zebragirl> oh, sorry, not sure
[07:51] <zebragirl> how can i find out
[07:51] <kling0n> zebragirl, are you using WEP or WPA on your wireless network?
[07:51] <looksaus> because many vendors refuse to give free software developers enough info on devices they create
[07:51] <azurehuesofblue> Ok, I wrote down every single peice of advice regarding dual head display GeForce 5500, I'll try it ALL and report back!  What's the easiest way to install kde?  and after it is installed I just use the session chooser to use it right?
[07:51] <kling0n> looksaus, but most wireless cards are either prism or atheros chipsets
[07:52] <kling0n> both of which are well supported
[07:52] <nto> s
[07:52] <babo> kling0n: nothing much really ... I'm just reading an interesting article off slashdot about MachO executables and I want to see the ELF format comparison ... so basically view the various parts of the ELF binaries ... header, load, raw segment
[07:52] <looksaus> kling0n, we're trying to find out what hardware she has there, right...
[07:52] <karat> how do you upgrade to a newer kernel
[07:52] <looksaus> zebragirl, are you using a laptop or a desktop?
[07:53] <kling0n> azurehuesofblue, id recommend backing up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, running /etc/init.d/gdm stop and trying to edit your config and running startx to check
[07:53] <zebragirl> well, i believe it is WEP
[07:53] <kling0n> zebragirl, ok that the encryption standard you're using
[07:53] <kling0n> that is generally pretty well-supported
[07:54] <zebragirl> i'm not very good at finding this stuff in yet
[07:54] <kling0n> 'can you get the HEX key from your wireless router?
[07:54] <azurehuesofblue> Kling0n: yeah, I mean I'm pretty much a n00b, but that's what I've been doing, making backups and trying different things.
[07:54] <graveson> i am really having problems with a maxtor RAID 0 drive .for the 10th time is there anyone that can help me or point me in a direction where i can get help
[07:54] <kling0n> since password conversion can be flaky
[07:54] <looksaus> zebragirl, unfortunately, it's been about eight years since I used windows
[07:54] <kling0n> graveson what problem?
[07:54] <oskude> back, sry i had a important call... forgot who i was helping here...
[07:54] <looksaus> but have a look at Control panel-> network blah
[07:55] <zebragirl> i'm concerned that once i get rid of windows of my systme that somehow my network may not function in ubuntu anymore
[07:55] <looksaus> the wired access should not be a problem
[07:55] <looksaus> but that's what we're trying to find out
[07:55] <kling0n> zebragirl, its called "network connections" if you choose "detailed view" you can see the type of hardware in the "description" field
[07:55] <zebragirl> i have to go to my other system to do that, brb
[07:56] <kling0n> azurehuesofblue, the best way to learn it :)
[07:56] <XVampireX> I know how to tell if KDE or Gnome is better.... Take statistics of all users of KDE and Gnome and compare which desktop enviorment is used more
[07:56] <looksaus> kling0n, isn't there the live CD for her to test these things?
[07:56] <looksaus> XVampireX, :)
[07:56] <zebragirl> i am using linux right now
[07:56] <XVampireX> It won't show what's better but what is used more which is somewhat like what is better
[07:56] <graveson> kling0n: i will  paste the screenshot on pastebin for you.Basically i create a partition on this 600GB drive and it shows up in nautilus places as 2 x600GB .one mountable and the other not.there is als a kb file that i have no idea what that s all about
[07:56] <azurehuesofblue> I'll get it, SOME DAY lol
[07:56] <looksaus> ah, then it's easy
[07:56] <kling0n> babo,you might want to check out bsdiff
[07:56] <looksaus> zebragirl, which version?
[07:57] <zebragirl> so i know it works now, but like i said, somewhere in linux, don't remeber where, it said i had  a windows network
[07:57] <babo> kling0n: thnaks
[07:57] <looksaus> zebragirl, that's something else they're talking about
[07:57] <kling0n> looksaus,  i think so
[07:57] <looksaus> don't worry about that...
[07:58] <zebragirl> oh, sorry, chats wig me a little ADD here
[07:58] <kling0n> graveson, are you using software raid or hardware raid?
[07:58] <kling0n> and do you, in fact have two of these disks?
[07:59] <twirpie> good morning everyone :)
[07:59] <gandm> hi there
[07:59] <M_A_K> I have been going crazy with flash.  I teach a class and some of the e-labs we do are in flash.  I have it working fine on my laptop under ubuntu.  On the workstations in my classroom, I am running the same version of ubuntu.  When I load the e-labs, they are not working properly.  I installed a version of Gentoo linux on one of the workstations and the labs worked fine. I like Ubuntu better and would like to get it working.  What else can a linux newbi
[08:00] <graveson> klingon: it is a RAID 0 drive ,so i do is create a linux lable (82) for the 600GB partition . there is no software RAID configured
[08:00] <graveson> klingon: the screenshots are uploaded
[08:00] <twirpie> i have i tiny question, does ubuntu tell me when it needs to be updated, and when those packs installed on my system need to be upgraded?
[08:01] <M_A_K> twirpie : yes
[08:01] <twirpie> yes for both?
[08:01] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i'm trying to compile a program from source, and i get this during the ./configure process: (just took out the relevant bit) http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/47186 any ideas?
[08:01] <M_A_K> Yep.
[08:01] <twirpie> sweet! thanks man
[08:01] <harm_> twirpie normally a icon left of your clock shows you about updates
[08:01] <twirpie> yay :)
[08:02] <kling0n> graveson do you have a link?
[08:02] <graveson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10923 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10922
[08:02] <pont> Hey, does anyone know of any new PPC debs for compiz ?
[08:03] <zebragirl> also, how the heck do i get the the command line?
[08:03] <twirpie> is there an ubuntu news area that i should keep in check for lastest ubuntu news?
[08:04] <kling0n> graveson, i'd start with a cfdisk check on the disk
[08:04] <kling0n> in stead of all these graphical tools
[08:04] <mds\> anyone here using krfb with an smp kernel?
[08:04] <gandm> has someone an idea about why xmms doesn't play my songs? I've libmad installed and totem works finde with my mp3s, but whenever i add a song to my xmms playlist it just doesn't do anything. no error, no nothing when I hit play.
[08:04] <kling0n> also easier to paste the output :9
[08:04] <looksaus> zebragirl, Ctrl-Alt-F1
[08:04] <zebragirl> thanks
[08:05] <looksaus> (or you can open a graphical terminal from the menu system)
[08:05] <XVampireX> Can I view my videos from this Live CD version?
[08:05] <twirpie> is there an ubuntu news area that i should keep in check for lastest ubuntu news?
[08:05] <XVampireX> on my NTFS windows XP
[08:05] <kling0n> XVampireX, probably
[08:05] <XVampireX> Err, I meant the other way around
[08:05] <kling0n> XVampireX,  do you know which partition if your ntfs partition?
[08:05] <mwe> I dont think the live cd has w32codecs
[08:06] <XVampireX> I know they are partitions C and D
[08:06] <frank23> sexcopter8000m: install libgtk2.0-dev
[08:06] <kling0n> XVampireX, sudo mkdir /mnt/win; sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win
[08:06] <zebragirl> so, can i just go on and reinstall ubuntu and format w/o lvm? what's the diff btwn lvm and not using it?
[08:06] <[FR33_B33R] > kling0n, i get the same error even with JACK ... i have to clue where to start fixing this sequencer thing
[08:06] <anders_> where is Xserver-6.6.1 located?
[08:06] <kling0n> might be sda1 for a sata drive
[08:06] <kling0n> [FR33_B33R] , im not much into audio sequencing
[08:06] <XVampireX> is that what I'm supposed to type into the console?
[08:07] <oskude> twirpie, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ :)
[08:07] <kling0n> XVampireX, yup
[08:07] <twirpie> thanks
[08:07] <anders_> ?
[08:08] <[FR33_B33R] > kling0n, no problems, thanks for your help anyways ... cheers
[08:08] <twirpie> what's the diff btwn lvm partition and not using it?
[08:08] <XVampireX> says: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:08] <sexcopter8000m> thanks frank23!
[08:09] <anders_> how would i get [Xserver-6.6.1]  on my comp?
[08:09] <kling0n> doh.keyboard repeat died...help++
[08:11] <anders_> sooo i have a questioin
[08:12] <[FR33_B33R] > !timidity
[08:12] <ubotu> [FR33_B33R] : I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:13] <twirpie> what's the diff btwn lvm partition and not using it?
[08:13] <anders_> how would i get Xserver 6.6.1 on my compter or find where it is
[08:13] <babo> What is the relationship between symbols and libraries ... ? ... what exactly are symbols ? why does a process need them to run ?
[08:14] <rebelguys6> twirpie, lvm provides dynamic resizng of partitions and spanning across multiple drives, for most setups its not needed
[08:14] <twirpie> ohhh ok
[08:14] <twirpie> thanks
[08:14] <anders_> ie. raid
[08:15] <dnh> Can anyone help? Running i386 5.1 live CD  or AMD64 install, I encounter the same problem: after gdm login, a low beep and an empty desktop.
[08:15] <gandm> has someone an idea about why xmms doesn't play my songs? I've libmad installed and totem works finde with my mp3s, but whenever i add a song to my xmms playlist it just doesn't do anything. no error, no nothing when I hit play. If knew more I'd provide you with the infos, but since theres no error msg, it's kind of hard to explain
[08:15] <matt_> is there a firewall built in Ubuntu?
[08:15] <oskude> twirpie, i newer used lvm, so i maybe that im wrong: with lvm you can use more than 1 harddisk as 1 partition...
[08:16] <gandm> no matt
[08:16] <batman> anyone here willing to help me out with ndiswrapper?
[08:16] <martin__> matt_ install FireStarter, that's a good one
[08:16] <gandm> you might want to get firestarter to have a firestarter gui
[08:16] <gandm> firewall-gui
[08:16] <harm_> doesnt ubuntu come with an IP-table?
[08:16] <dnh> I'm new to Ubuntu and not sure where to look for logs/errors. Can anybody tell me why gnome might fail  to initialize on a default install?
[08:17] <matt_> I'm using Ubuntu server, so no gui
[08:17] <anders_> matt what is your desktop?
[08:17] <rebelguys6> dnh, you might want to check /var/log/messages and /var/log/Xorg.0.log if its an X problem
[08:17] <[FR33_B33R] > !alsa
[08:17] <ubotu> from memory, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[08:18] <matt_> anders_, I don't have a desktop, I'm using Ubuntu server, just a console
[08:18] <tristanmike> dnh: look for error logs in /var/log but to as why gnome failed...did anything fail upon instalation? try 'startx' at a prompt
[08:18] <polpak> matt_, you just need to set the proper iptable rules, and configure those rules to be configured when the system boots (via an init script)
[08:18] <dnh> thx. I'll have a look at the X log. I can start X apps fine from the console, but no gnome stuff or menus show up.
[08:18] <anders_> matt wate wate wate right now and how about when you get home?
[08:18] <batman> will someone please help me out with ndiswrapper?
[08:18] <tristanmike> dnh: does 'startx' bring it up ?
[08:19] <anders_> did you try google batman
[08:19] <dnh> I'll have to check... am reinstalling now.
[08:19] <tristanmike> dnh: or try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[08:19] <batman> anders_ yes
[08:19] <tristanmike> dnh: ok, fair enough :)
[08:19] <rebelguys6> matt_, you may want to look into just a basic firewall using iptables
[08:19] <matt_> polpak, you know a tutorial about how to set iptables?
[08:19] <dnh> Thanks. I'll try just the "ubuntu-desktop" package if still stuck.
[08:19] <martin__> or sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ;)
[08:20] <dnh> ?
[08:20] <martin__> That is if you want XFCE instead of GNOME as your window manager
[08:20] <anders_> martin it is that easy
[08:20] <batman> it says the driver is present etc.. i did a ndiswrapper -m and do a lsmod and its not showing up in the list
[08:20] <polpak> matt_,  this thead has a script for saving/restoring iptable rules on boot http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94513&highlight=iptables
[08:20] <matt_> tnx polpak
[08:20] <Induane> On the amd64 version of ubuntu lib3ds-dev is not compiled with -FPIC for some reason, and thus many builds fail that require lib3ds.  How can I reinstall it from apt using the source repository and with -fPIC
[08:21] <tristanmike> dnh: you can install XFCE or Gnome or KDE, by 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop respectively
[08:21] <davidmoore83> anyone in here from the UK and using DAPPER?
[08:21] <tristanmike> !dapper
[08:21] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:21] <polpak> matt_, as for how to set them in the first place.... http://www.linuxgrill.com/anonymous/fire/netfilter/iptables-HOWTO.html
[08:21] <KawikaCornell> hi, i'm in the us using dapper
[08:21] <polpak> !dapper
[08:21] <sfar-ubu> how to search in terminal for packets that are installed?
[08:21] <KawikaCornell> and i have a very important question
[08:21] <KawikaCornell> why does the installer not ask for a root password
[08:21] <tristanmike> davidmoore83: you'd probably have more luck in #ubuntu+1
[08:21] <rebelguys6> here's another good intro matt_ http://www.siliconvalleyccie.com/linux-hn/iptables-intro.htm
[08:22] <polpak> !tell KawikaCornell about root
[08:22] <KawikaCornell> i feel crippled now
[08:22] <polpak> !tell KawikaCornell about dapper
[08:22] <rebelguys6> except its a bit redhat-specific
[08:22] <davidmoore83> thanks tristanmike
[08:22] <matt_> tnx rebelguys6 and polpak :)
[08:22] <thegladiator> what id mockup ? (gnome-look.org) , please see this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128
[08:22] <twirpie> is there any chance of a linux system becoming rooted?
[08:22] <anders_> KawikaCornell: are you root right now?
[08:22] <thegladiator> I wonder if it possible for me to giev a similar look to my PC
[08:22] <KawikaCornell> nope
[08:22] <babo> What's a symbol exactly ?
[08:22] <tristanmike> twirpie: do you mean from an outside source?
[08:23] <KawikaCornell> i'm going to read about how root is locked automatically
[08:23] <twirpie> i mean rootkit like radmin sql and such
[08:23] <anders_> KawikaCornell: what "installer
[08:23] <tore_> hey im trying to get ipw2200 and network manager with WPA to work. Im follwing this HOWTO: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125150&highlight=network+manager - the problem is here:
[08:23] <tore_> Installing lastest wpaupplicant from cvs. When trying to access the cvs server i get promted for password, anything is not valid. Tips?
[08:23] <hawaisurf> hi my internet downloading is going extremly slowly anybody knows what is the possible reason? thx
[08:23] <tristanmike> twirpie: I'm not a dev, but I'd have to say no, they won't be able to access anything outside your home folder without the superuser password
[08:24] <KawikaCornell> i'm trying to get WPA to work with ipw2200 as well
[08:24] <tore_> hawaisurf, cable? wireless? pppoe?
[08:24] <twirpie> good stuff :)
[08:24] <hawaisurf> cable 10Mb/s
[08:24] <tristanmike> twirpie: I'd confirm for you're own sake, but I'd personally have to say no
[08:24] <twirpie> k
[08:25] <tore_> do a traceroute, fetch a large iso from a local non-loaded ftp (like ubuntu or something). check when your the only on using the net
[08:25] <rebelguys6> try just blank for the password tore_
[08:25] <thegladiator> what is  mockup ? i was going through gnome-look.org , please see this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128  ...is it possible that I get a simillar look ?
[08:25] <tore_> to secs
[08:25] <hawaisurf> tore: ok..
[08:26] <niki> can someone suggest a good game that i can get from synaptic, besides supertux and tuxracer and xjump?
[08:26] <ortner> Is it hard to change from gnome to kde?
[08:26] <Riddell> ortner: no
[08:26] <Riddell> niki: xbill
[08:27] <rebelguys6> niki, frozen-bubble
[08:27] <oskude> thegladiator, mockup ~= fake
[08:27] <eizesus> why does firefox does not open ASP files? just lets me download them?
[08:27] <ortner> Riddell: just to install it via synaptic?
[08:27] <tore_> frozen-bubble equals COOL
[08:27] <niki> thanks Riddell
[08:27] <niki> rebelguys6, already got that one lol
[08:27] <thegladiator> oskude, that means it can be made to look that way ?
[08:27] <rebelguys6> hehe
[08:27] <tore_> eizesus, its a server problem, not a client problem, i think
[08:27] <thegladiator> wallpaper too is kewl
[08:27] <bajek> what replaced /etc/locale.def in drapper ?
[08:27] <oskude> thegladiator, mockup means, he did that "screenshot" with an image editor...
[08:28] <thegladiator> Ah thank you
[08:28] <eizesus> oh, i just installed a CITRIX ICA client... strange...
[08:28] <CrocoJet> hi all
[08:29] <tore_> hawaisurf, also, check that your running full duplex
[08:29] <CrocoJet> Ihave one NIC "ENL832-TX-ICNT", but when making install .. not recognize ... any idea to solve that ?
[08:29] <tore_> rebelguys6, signs... it worked with no pass
[08:29] <hawaisurf> tore_= aha...how I can check it?
[08:29] <tore_> hawaisurf, i would guess ifconfig
[08:29] <Cyr4x> hi
[08:29] <Riddell> ortner: install kubuntu-desktop
[08:29] <XVampireX> So uhm.... I could never realize how to mount an NTFS partition
[08:30] <hawaisurf> tore_= mm ok..thx
[08:30] <Cyr4x> do you know any software to convert wav to amr?
[08:30] <jenda> I'm having trouble with my gnome-panel. It does unexpected thing without any reason. These are: hide completely without being able to come back out (and if I try to change the orientation top/bottom, it simply snaps back to where it was). i have autohide set to 0 pixels and the timeout for 0 ms. And sometimes it simply hops from bottom to top _without reason_ and I have to drag it back. It happens about... say once a week.
[08:30] <eizesus> bout NTFS, you can not edit files also...
[08:30] <ortner> Riddell: thanks :)
[08:30] <XVampireX> I don't need to edit files
[08:30] <XVampireX> All I need is access so I could at least read
[08:30] <eizesus> jenda: video card...
[08:30] <jenda> It's hidden right now, and the only way to get it back is a kill...
[08:30] <tristanmike> !tell XVampireX about ntfs
[08:30] <eizesus> on which machine?
[08:30] <tore_> XVampireX, start nautilius as root
[08:31] <XVampireX> thanks
[08:31] <jenda> eizesus: what about it? GeForce2, installed properly...
[08:31] <tristanmike> XVampireX: np
[08:31] <XVampireX> tore: am on a live cd boot
[08:31] <eizesus> jenda: strange, same as mine
[08:31] <tristanmike> XVampireX: don't listen to that, no need to start as root, use sudo for everything
[08:31] <tore_> XVampireX, should be under Apps. -> Sys tools
[08:32] <tore_> tristanmike, or start with sudo, either way;)
[08:33] <tristanmike> tore_: it just can be dangerous to advise to start in root, especially for new users, Ubuntu has chosen to "drop" the root thing, so we shouldn't convince users that's the way to go, sorry if I intruded
[08:33] <tore_> no thats true what your saying
[08:33] <tore_> so kinda my bad
[08:33] <tore_> im a freebsd user so im used to go to root
[08:33] <tristanmike> tore_: that's a big question in here "where's my root"
[08:34] <twirpie> ok i think im using the root login at the moment how do i add users, and is it difficult?
[08:34] <tristanmike> twirpie: you shouldn't use root login, use "sudo" for everything
[08:34] <tore-> sudo adduser? or use gui tools included in ubuntu
[08:35] <twirpie> ya i just found that out lol :)
[08:35] <tristanmike> !tell twirpie about rootsudo
[08:35] <twirpie> thanks.
[08:35] <twirpie> coffee time brb
[08:35] <Thralas> I'm trying to install amaroK, I apt'ed it together with amarok-xine but the audio output doesn't seem to work? When I attempt to play an mp3 it instantly tells me 'playlist finished'
[08:35] <tristanmike> Thralas: try "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"
[08:36] <chomskyrocks> Hi
[08:36] <Thralas> It came with gstreamer I think
[08:36] <cbudden_> anyone know when network manager 0.6.1 will be relased for Dapper?
[08:36] <biberao> hey
[08:36] <chomskyrocks> just need some help with ubuntu pls
[08:36] <tore-> chomskyrocks, just ask
[08:36] <tristanmike> Thralas: yes, but I don't think -mad, gstreamer has tons of different 'plugins' for lack of a better term
[08:36] <tristanmike> !tell Thralas about restricted
[08:37] <Thralas> You're right. Lets see what it does
[08:37] <chomskyrocks> trying to get Wpa support with my orinoco card
[08:37] <chomskyrocks> having no luck with the wpa supplicant
[08:37] <tristanmike> Thralas: if you haven't already, read up on the pm ubotu just sent you
[08:37] <tore-> chomskyrocks, could check this one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125150&highlight=network+manager
[08:37] <mds\> does anyone know about a documented issue with kde desktop sharing (krfb) and an smp kernel?
[08:37] <[FR33_B33R] > once again... how do i restart alsa?
[08:37] <tristanmike> !wpa
[08:37] <ubotu> wpa is probably enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[08:37] <Thralas> Yes I noticed
[08:37] <Thralas> And thanks it works fine now
[08:38] <chomskyrocks> will network manager work with older versions of ubuntu
[08:38] <chomskyrocks> I have warty
[08:38] <tristanmike> warty...? upgrade my friend, you'll be happy you did
[08:38] <rebelguys6> [FR33_B33R] , sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:38] <tristanmike> !tell chomskyrocks about upgrade
[08:38] <[FR33_B33R] > thankyou rebelguys6 :) ... cheers
[08:39] <XVampireX> Can't play MP3s
[08:39] <chomskyrocks> does dapper come with network manager?
[08:39] <chomskyrocks> and wpa support
[08:39] <tristanmike> XVampireX: 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad'
[08:39] <chomskyrocks> pls
[08:39] <XVampireX> thanks :P
[08:39] <tristanmike> !tell XVampireX about restricted
[08:39] <anders_> how do you find out what version you have?
[08:40] <tristanmike> XVampireX: read up on restricted when you have a chance
[08:40] <tristanmike> anders_: it should be in 'About Ubuntu'
[08:40] <chomskyrocks> and also the wpasupplicant does not seem to support hermes/orinoco, u have to compile the version that comes with the drivers, those dont compile properly
[08:40] <chomskyrocks> get lots of errors
[08:41] <olimar> hi all
[08:41] <olimar> crazy question but is there any complete backport of gnome 2.14 to breezy?
[08:41] <imc_> Hi, wrassling with a BORKED xorg install on breezy
[08:41] <olimar> thnx for ny answr!
[08:41] <imc_> Seeing some errors in the tail of Xorg.0.log but I can;'t make sense of it:  drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/cardxxx   open result is -1 (no such device)
[08:41] <imc_> Help please?
[08:42] <imc_> It's an ATI radeon 200 card
[08:42] <chomskyrocks> also how do u get shallscripts ot run?
[08:42] <tristanmike> imc_: did you try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[08:42] <chomskyrocks> shellscripts
[08:43] <chomskyrocks> pls
[08:43] <tristanmike> chomskyrocks: cd to the script and type ./nameofscript.sh
[08:43] <rebelguys6> chomskyrocks, you may need to do a chmod +x nameofscript.sh also
[08:43] <tristanmike> chomskyrocks: yes, what rebelguys6 said
[08:43] <chomskyrocks> cheers!
[08:44] <imc_> tristanmike, yes I did, and set it as carefully as I could, using monitor manual. Still no soap
[08:45] <Karlprof> What's the command to restart Samba?
[08:45] <neoxan> re :)
[08:45] <tristanmike> imc_: that's a little over my head, dpkg-reconfigure usually helps, you may need to seek greater wisdom than myself, sorry
[08:45] <anders_> 5.10?
[08:45] <olimar> doesn't anyone know for any gnome 2.14 for breezy?
[08:45] <erez> Karlprof: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:45] <tore-> what app would you recommend to connect to a itunes server?
[08:45] <kleinlappies_> hi there
[08:45] <polpak> !itunes
[08:45] <ubotu> itunes is, like, totally, a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.
[08:45] <Karlprof> Thanks, Erez.
[08:46] <tristanmike> anders_: 5.10 is Breezy Ubuntu
[08:46] <kleinlappies_> just a quick Q, is it worth upgrading to dapper drake?
[08:46] <imc_> Thanks tristanmike
[08:46] <polpak> kleinlappies_, it's not stable yet
[08:46] <tristanmike> imc_: sorry I couldn't be of any more help to you, good luck :)
[08:46] <tore-> thanks polpak
[08:46] <polpak> kleinlappies_, but if you have the time/inclination to file bug reports, then by all means =)
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> kleinlappies_,  wait on it. and i suggest doing a clean reinstall.
[08:47] <kleinlappies_> polpak don't actually have the time so will wait thanks for the ans
[08:48] <kleinlappies_> how is the support or apps for bluetooth , im looking for a app so that i can remote control my pc with my nokia phone
[08:49] <jinkiez> does anybody have gaim-vv working?
[08:49] <anders_> is that the updated one?
[08:50] <jinkiez> its supposed to allow voice and video on gaim, but i didn't see it specify for what protocols
[08:50] <_patrick> i have gaim working
[08:50] <joelw23> can someone help me format a hard drive
[08:50] <joelw23> first week with ubuntu
[08:50] <tarzeau> someone play http://bub-n-bros.sf.net #bub-n-bros ?
[08:51] <miguel> hola
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> joelw23,  you fdisk/partition the drive as you like, then use mkfs.ext3 normally. Theres proberly a few howtos and wiki pages on this topic
[08:51] <miguel> hola, alguien me lee?
[08:51] <tore-> is archive.ubuntu.com REALLY slow right now? im getting 5kb/s on my 5Mbit line
[08:52] <kleinlappies_> i would like to remote login to my pc via net and dyndns and using eg. vnc , is there a how to somewhere?
[08:52] <maruchan> are dvd movies burnt diffrently from data projects?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> kleinlappies_, make the site show your ip, and then set up vnc and its web  feature. is one way. Or ssh in, start vnc server, and connect with a vnc client. Or set up vnc to 'auto start' through xinetd.
[08:53] <harm_> i keep getting a xml parsing error with firefox
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> kleinlappies_,  its all discussed in the forums/wiki pages, and several google sites
[08:53] <leonie> hi. i am desperately trying to get a VSD's sound on kubuntu with kaffeine.
[08:53] <leonie> *VCD
[08:53] <abisen> how do i use iptables to forward all the traffic my machine is generating to a http proxy on host xyz port 80 with authentication. It becomes impossible to manually set and later unset proxy configuration in all the applications and some even dont support proxy configuration.
[08:54] <abisen> could i just use a global proxy settings that all the applications would transparently use ... and no application would come to know about their existance
[08:54] <kleinlappies_> Dr_Willis thanks man gonna check this out now
[08:54] <davidmoore83> ok got the following error msg when trying to install my 7800GT:  ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed, then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[08:54] <green_earz> maruchan: yes dvd have vob files and some info files that need to burn with the vobs
[08:56] <Larsson-Sweden> I need help! I have set up an ssh server to be able to use it as a sftp server. People can connect and browse around, but when uploading files it crashes randomly (it can take 1 sec, it can take 10 mins) and they get the error message "Connection reset by peer" Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:56] <davidmoore83> ok got the following error msg when trying to install my 7800GT:  ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed, then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[08:56] <rebelguys6> Larsson-Sweden, is there anything in /var/log/messages ?
[08:56] <_jason> davidmoore83: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[08:56] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6, wait and i'll check.
[08:56] <Thralas> davidmoore83, apt-get install binutils?
[08:57] <joelw23> can someone help me format a hard drive it's my slave drive
[08:57] <kleinlappies_> da1 hi there
[08:57] <harm_> joelw23 i can
[08:57] <Thralas> Where do apt-getted source packages go usually? /lib/src as a gzipped archive or also somewhere extracted?
[08:57] <harm_> do u have a ubuntu live CD.. iam pretty sure u can format with that
[08:57] <rebelguys6> abisen you may want to try this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy.html
[08:57] <niki> how come when i install programs from synaptic, some of them show up in my menu, and others don't?
[08:58] <_jason> Thralas: current working directory
[08:58] <kleinlappies_> da1 hi there
[08:58] <rebelguys6> er, maybe
[08:58] <da1_> hi
[08:58] <_jason> Thralas: I'm referring to apt-get source blah
[08:58] <cubik_shool> hi
[08:58] <Ongo> hi. When I start gnome I get "Failed initializing HAL". What does it mean?
[08:59] <_michael_> I've been using an iPod and it finally took a dive on me. I bought a creative nomad jukebox now because I like the cost effectiveness over buying a new iPod... Herein lies the problem, My iPod only has *.m4a files and I don't think Ubuntu or my Jukebox will read them. Does anybody have some solutions or ideas??
[08:59] <gia> hi ppl
[08:59] <Thralas> _jason, seems not, had to get kernel-source for an nvidia driver, found it in /usr/src but wondered if it unpacked it somewhere as well
[08:59] <anders_> hi
[08:59] <joelw23> i'm in ubuntu right now
[08:59] <gia> to all geek out there
[08:59] <_jason> Thralas: ah well if you apt-get install a source package then it's different
[08:59] <cubik_shool> Ongo,The little people are comming
[08:59] <tristanmike> niki: alot of times it's either a command line program, or an icon hasn't been submitted, something like that
[08:59] <joelw23> not a live cd
[08:59] <Thralas> Ah
[08:59] <gia> can u help me to fix this error
[08:59] <_jason> Thralas: dpkg -L packagename, will tell you where files go
[09:00] <tore-> not a ubuntu related question but: how can i check my lan-speed? im wondering that my ethernet cable is cat4
[09:00] <davidmoore83> EVERYONE how is best to exit Xserver in Ubuntu so i can install my gfx card driver?
[09:00] <gia> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:00] <gia> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:00] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6, no, nothing in /var/log/messages
[09:00] <gia> anyone
[09:00] <dereks> tore-: ctl-shift-backspace restarts it
[09:00] <skupe> hi! i have a problem with my ubuntu. i would like to add kubuntu-desktop to my ubuntu but synaptic package manager doesn't find it. what might be wrong?
[09:00] <_jason> gia: what version of ubuntu are you using?  and please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ in the future for large pastes
[09:00] <dereks> tore-: or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop stops it
[09:00] <gia> highly appreciaterd
[09:01] <gia> sorry appreciated
[09:01] <Larsson-Sweden> I have written a more covering post on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151180
[09:01] <LoCusF> do you think that dappers kernel works with breezy?
[09:01] <davidmoore83> how do i exit X to install a gcard driver????
[09:01] <_patrick> skupe can you find it in the synptic
[09:01] <_jason> gia: ?
[09:01] <Ongo>  hi. When I start gnome I get "Failed initializing HAL". Can anyone help me?
[09:01] <rebelguys6> Larsson-Sweden, umm, are the permissions setup correctly?
[09:01] <gia> im using ubunto 5.10
[09:01] <skupe> _patrick, yes. search works just fine but it doesn't find kubuntu-desktop
[09:01] <_jason> gia: are you comfortable editing your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:01] <gia> yeah
[09:01] <tore-> dereks, and why would i stop it?
[09:02] <Thralas> _jason, it has a weird ascii output with Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[09:02] <Thralas>  pointing to a space with an i. How do I check the state?
[09:02] <gia> I try to follow procedure for ubunto.org
[09:02] <dereks> tore-: i don't really know what you are doing
[09:02] <_jason> gia: delete the mirrormax backports lines because 1) you are using breezy, not hoary and 2) mirrormax backports no longer exist
[09:02] <_patrick> just type kubuntu and then wat do you get
[09:02] <gia> then thats gonna b fine
[09:02] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6, i think so. I mean they can write to the folder.
[09:02] <skupe> _patrick, nothing
[09:02] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6, where is the ssh log?
[09:02] <skupe> shoud be so simple
[09:02] <oskude> davidmoore83, go to console (ctrl-alt-f1), login, type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" to stop X...
[09:03] <sexcopter8000m> hi, want to compile this programme http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/ and get a problem which could be fixed i think by the patch described "patch fixing a build failure", which is a .diff file. how can i "run" this?
[09:03] <gia> how can i download some software
[09:03] <pigo> hi
[09:03] <_jason> Thralas: what does?
[09:03] <pigo> sorry
[09:03] <_patrick> and you added repositories
[09:03] <tore-> dereks, are you sure your talking to the right person?
[09:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell gia about synaptic
[09:03] <miguel> ping
[09:03] <Seveas> gia, applications  add applications
[09:03] <gia> those affect updating #
[09:03] <gia> yeah I using that
[09:03] <pigo> i have one problem with webcam help me?
[09:03] <gia> so I gonna try it again thanks guys
[09:03] <twirpie> mkay you know how windows has 4 users one is the system op the others are just users, well how do i add users to ubuntu?
[09:03] <skupe> _patrick, how? could you help me with that. i can google also as usually
[09:04] <Ongo>  hi. When I start gnome I get "Failed initializing HAL". Can anyone help me?
[09:04] <_patrick> skupe: look at this might help  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:05] <_michael_> I've been using an iPod and it finally took a dive on me. I bought a creative nomad jukebox now because I like the cost effectiveness over buying a new iPod... Herein lies the problem, My iPod only has *.m4a files and I don't think Ubuntu or my Jukebox will read them. Does anybody have some solutions or ideas??
[09:05] <erez> twirpie: System > Admin. > users and grups > add user
[09:05] <twirpie> k thanks
[09:05] <rebelguys6> Larsson-Sweden, you may want to try sshd in debug mode (sshd -d) for a more verbose log
[09:05] <rebelguys6> i don't think it writes much stuff normally
[09:05] <skupe> _patrick, thanks
[09:05] <McJerry> any help appreciated...when i reboot ubuntu dapper...i have to type ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 to get networking working again....please advise
[09:05] <tristanmike> !tell michael about ipod
[09:05] <Kryspy> how far above the moron level is it toget a airpirt express set up and stream wireless music from your PC to a home theater system ????
[09:05] <dereks> tore-: haha no, i read the line under you
[09:05] <dereks> :)
[09:05] <dereks> sorry
[09:06] <_michael_> How can I convert *.m4a to *.mp3 in Ubuntu?
[09:06] <roaet> wheee!
[09:06] <_patrick> skupe: tell us if it doesnt work then we can outline the problems
[09:06] <andy_> quick question how do get file manager to see this directory //home/andy/.xMule/Incoming do I have to browse as root? Thanks in advance
[09:06] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6, so i'll start it with /etc/init.d/ssh start -d  ?
[09:06] <skupe> _patrick, ok
[09:06] <apostols> Hi
[09:06] <anders_> can anyone tell me where Xserver is located in the HDD?
[09:06] <apostols> I need hel with Sound in Ubuntu Dapper
[09:07] <_jason> andy_: press ctrl+l and type /home/andy/.xMule/Incoming, or just press ctrl-h to show hidden directories and click as usual
[09:07] <Ongo>  hi. When I start gnome I get "Failed initializing HAL". Can anyone help me?
[09:07] <rebelguys6> Larsson-Sweden, uh, you should first stop sshd by /etc/init.d/ssh stop, then do a 'sudo sshd -d'
[09:07] <joelw23> can someone help me format a hard drive it's my slave drive
[09:07] <apostols> apostols@sao:~$ sudo discover sound
[09:07] <apostols> Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
[09:07] <apostols> apostols@sao:~$ sudo discover sound --module
[09:07] <apostols> i810_audio
[09:07] <apostols> But not sound gnome
[09:07] <andy_> thank you so much jason
[09:07] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6,  ok, will it write a log then or?
[09:08] <rebelguys6> it should just print to the console
[09:08] <Kryspy> anyone have any experience with airport express ??
[09:08] <rebelguys6> and not go into the background
[09:08] <tristanmike> _michael_: i believe you need to search for 'libfaad' and 'libfaac' and install those for .m4a, etc.
[09:08] <skupe> _patrick, thanks. that did the trick!
[09:08] <_michael_> ty
[09:09] <oskude> joelw23, where is it connected, ide 1 slave ?
[09:09] <_patrick> no problem
[09:09] <apostols> ci -v | grep Multimedia
[09:09] <apostols> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:09] <joelw23> oskude, yes
[09:09] <rebelguys6> Kryspy, you may want to try http://nanocrew.net/?page_id=115 (with mono,) but its probably very experimental
[09:09] <oskude> joelw23, ok, then the harddisk should be at "/dev/hdb"
[09:10] <twirpie> should new users be put is the $user group?
[09:10] <joelw23> ok
[09:10] <jinkiez> whats that package to get that gives you make, gcc, etc..?
[09:10] <joelw23> fdisk /dev/hdb
[09:10] <oskude> joelw23, i use "cfdisk" for partitioning
[09:10] <_jason> jinkiez: build-essential
[09:10] <tristanmike> jinkiez: build-essential
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[09:10] <jinkiez> thanks :)
[09:10] <joelw23> ok
[09:10] <GnarusLeo> ./configure && make && make install :)
[09:11] <joelw23> oskude, it said can't open disk
[09:11] <oskude> joelw23, cfdisk is a little more user friendly than fdisk...
[09:11] <tristanmike> use 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install' ;)
[09:11] <oskude> joelw23, you need "sudo" for that
[09:11] <_michael_> tristanmike; There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[09:11] <irad> hello
[09:11] <joelw23> ok
[09:11] <_michael_> i installed those packages
[09:11] <rebelguys6> joelw23, do a 'sudo fdisk -l' to see where all your current partitions and drives are
[09:11] <oskude> joelw23, and it must be unmounted!
[09:11] <irad> i just installed kubuntu and i can't get my sound work
[09:11] <irad> any ideas how can i make it work?
[09:11] <tristanmike> _michael_: try searching for 'gstreamer0.8-faac and -faad"
[09:12] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group?
[09:12] <Newbieee> somebody could tell me How can I use my mp3 from Windows partitions?
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> Is there such a thing as antigrep?  I want to limit output by NOT displaying results containing a particular string.  As in, 'ls | don't show things with "/home"'
[09:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell Newbieee about ntfs
[09:12] <polpak> !tell Newbieee about mp3
[09:12] <inflik> i have a cpu question can someone pm me if they want to help me
[09:12] <GnarusLeo> tonyyarusso, exclude?
[09:12] <ara> guys check out these icons http://tux.crystalxp.net/index.php
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> GnarusLeo: That could be.
[09:12] <GnarusLeo> !tell inflik aout ask
[09:12] <joelw23> uh ok
[09:12] <GnarusLeo> tonyyarusso, just a hunch :)
[09:12] <joelw23> uh oh
[09:13] <Goldfisch> tonyyarusso: grep -v <--- anti-grep
[09:13] <irad> what might be my sound problem?
[09:13] <Goldfisch> tonyyarusso: ls | grep -v home
[09:13] <harm__> i mounted a hdb1 and now i cant open it... permision denied
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> Goldfisch: Perfect!  Thanks.
[09:13] <harm__> any ideas?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> GnarusLeo: Close I guess :)
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> harm__: What filesystem?
[09:14] <harm__> ntsf
[09:14] <inflik> im kinda a noob with pc stuff so my question is a intel celeron d 2.6 ghz better then a athlon 2800+ xp?
[09:14] <_michael_> tristanmike; it's still not working, gstreamer0.8-faad wasn't listed
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell harm__ about ntfs
[09:14] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group? also does ubuntu strore any temperary files when installing something and what not? does it delete that temp stuff automaticly or do i need to do it?
[09:14] <GnarusLeo> irad, applications -> System Tools -> Ubuntu Drive Database .... also try "sudo apt-get install xine" and "sudo apt-get install xine-engine"
[09:14] <graveson> having an issue with the reliability of writing to ntfs.what is the status of ubuntu(breezy) and ntfs
[09:15] <irad> i use kubuntu btw not ubuntu
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> graveson: Not good.  Dapper is rumoured to be okay.
[09:15] <GnarusLeo> granted, experimental ... (!)
[09:15] <polpak> graveson, it's unstable
[09:15] <joelw23> oskude, i created a partition in cfdisk
[09:15] <joelw23> does that mean it's formatted
[09:15] <inflik> im kinda a noob with pc stuff so my question is a intel celeron d 2.6 ghz better then a athlon 2800+ xp?
[09:15] <oskude> joelw23, no, you have to format it yourself
[09:15] <joelw23> oskude, how
[09:15] <gtest> I just connected a supercom 1416 monochrome monitor I found on the street. to my surprise the textmode flicker like mad (text is unreadable) but X work fine in 640x480. I do not use framebuffer. any ideas of how to adjust the refresh-rate for console mode?
[09:16] <oskude> joelw23, what format should it be ?
[09:16] <tristanmike> _michael_: hmmm, I have gstreamer0.8-faad
[09:16] <twirpie> inflik id go with the athlon
[09:16] <joelw23> oskude, not sure
[09:16] <tristanmike> _michael_: what version of ubuntu ?
[09:16] <oskude> joelw23, and you have to give the same type in partition tool that your gonna format it
[09:16] <joelw23> somthing so i can access accross a windows network
[09:16] <_michael_> 5.10
[09:17] <rebelguys6> gtest, you may want to try the nofb kernel option or something similar to that
[09:17] <oskude> joelw23, that could be fat32
[09:17] <joelw23> ok
[09:17] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group? also does ubuntu strore any temperary files when installing something and what not? does it delete that temp stuff automaticly or do i need to do it?
[09:17] <inflik> thank you twirpie i just didnt know because the celeron is newer but celerons are bad
[09:17] <tristanmike> _michael_: same as me, I assume you have all your repos, universe, multiverse ?
[09:17] <Hal9000> is there a flight cd for ubuntu-server 6.06?
[09:17] <_michael_> tristanmike; yep
[09:17] <twirpie> np just my opinion though so choose as you will
[09:18] <_michael_> tristanmike; what program do you use to listen to them?
[09:18] <oskude> joelw23, and to format it, "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1" (1 if its the first partition)
[09:18] <inflik> i was thinking athlon anyways either way its just a hold off pc untill i get a more money
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> Goldfisch: And I have now found my missing file.  Yay for anti-grep.
[09:18] <inflik> im only spending like 350 bucks canadian alot of mixing my old parts
[09:18] <irad> GnarusLeo: when i trying to play files in amarok it replys: The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.
[09:18] <irad> You may want to choose a different engine from the Configure Dialog, or examine the installation of the multimedia-framework that the current engine uses.
[09:18] <irad> You may find useful information in the FAQ section of the amaroK HandBook.
[09:18] <tristanmike> _michael_: well, see, that's the thing, to be honest, I don't own an ipod, nor do i have any apple tunes..however this was the method i was told i was to follow
[09:19] <joelw23> oskude, is it 0b for fat32
[09:19] <tristanmike> _michael_: that package is suppose to be there http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gstreamer0.8-faad&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[09:19] <GnarusLeo> irad, get the xine-engine
[09:19] <_michael_> tristanmike; k, thanks
[09:19] <irad> that's the problem?
[09:19] <irad> thanks
[09:19] <GnarusLeo> irad, "sudo apt-get install xine-engine" and yes :) thats the problem
[09:19] <irad> muy thanks :)
[09:19] <GnarusLeo> yw
[09:20] <oskude> joelw23, i tend to use "0C"
[09:20] <joelw23> oskude, ok
[09:20] <tristanmike> _michael_: sorry I couldn't be of any more help
[09:20] <mds\> can anyone here tell me how much of a difference I'll notice if I compile a kernel (2.6.16) with the Con Kolivas patches mentioned on the ubutuforums guide?
[09:21] <GnarusLeo> !frostwire
[09:21] <jimmyxx> hi vmware wants me to tell it where my linux headers are? but i dont have anything in usr/src/ how do i know which ones i should apt-get install?
[09:21] <mojojojo_> hello there! I have a veeery strange problem.. I googled the web futily, so... any help would be appreciated...
[09:21] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group? also does ubuntu strore any temperary files when installing something and what not? does it delete that temp stuff automaticly or do i need to do it?
[09:22] <_michael_> tristanmike; thanks
[09:22] <tristanmike> _michael_: out of curiosity, what program are you using to listen to them ?
[09:22] <rebelguys6> jimmyxx, do a 'uname -a' to figure out the kernel version you need
[09:22] <GnarusLeo> update to ubotu .. you dont need dos2unix formatter to change a file format settings(!) while nano, you can CTRL - O to save, and ALT - D to change format .. just a clue :)
[09:22] <irad> xine-engine isn't in my repositories
[09:22] <_michael_> tristanmike; i was using totem, but when I try to play them with xmms it doesn't seem to complain... but my speakers aren't working at all right now
[09:22] <irad> is there any other place it can be?
[09:22] <GnarusLeo> irad, apt-cache search xine
[09:22] <joelw23> oskude, i think i got it
[09:23] <irad> aight :)
[09:23] <jimmyxx> thanks rebelguys6
[09:23] <jimmyxx> downloading now :)
[09:24] <tristanmike> _michael_: so what you're saying is that even if it were working, you really wouldn't be able to tell cause you can't hear it ? is that what you're saying ? :P
[09:24] <GnarusLeo> irad, as you probably saw it was called amarok-xine :)
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> GnarusLeo: You do know ubotu doesn't have a clue what you just said, right?
[09:24] <irad> oh that one? :)
[09:24] <GnarusLeo> irad, if you wanted to use amarok and so on
[09:24] <GnarusLeo> tonyyarusso, of course :) Just a hunch if someone was interessted :P
[09:24] <irad> i want to get the general xine-engine so i wouldn't have any problem later on
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> 'k.
[09:25] <_michael_> tristanmike; if it wasn't giving me errors i wouldn't... i was hoping just to see the little bar move, but xmms doesn't have that
[09:25] <GnarusLeo> irad, it depends on wich program you want to play mp3 with ... the xine engine is a plugin for different apps
[09:25] <_michael_> tristanmike; i'm looking for some nice ones
[09:25] <rybuntu> anyone know how to change the start menu icon?
[09:25] <tristanmike> _michael_: amaroK does ;)
[09:25] <GnarusLeo> irad, including its own (wich is xine:)
[09:25] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group? also does ubuntu strore any temperary files when installing something and what not? does it delete that temp stuff automaticly or do i need to do it?
[09:26] <mojojojo_> soooo... I have ext3 partition with my Ubuntu, and 2 fat32 partitions left for WinXp... I store programs and multimedia in wone of them... after I startup Ubuntu it runs ok and I can write sth on those fat32s, but... I do the following... I run Windows applicaiton using Wine and the error pops up saying "access denied"... then a ran nautilus and guess what? I can't change the filesystem because it says it's read-only.
[09:26] <rebelguys6> rybuntu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6457.html
[09:26] <_michael_> tristanmike; i'll try it
[09:26] <shadeofgrey> hey guys does anybody here have extensive esxperience with abiword?
[09:26] <tristanmike> _michael_: it makes me cry it's so nice :P
[09:27] <mojojojo_> those are entries for my fat32: /dev/hda1       /windows/c      vfat    defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       0
[09:27] <mojojojo_> /dev/hda5       /windows/d      vfat    defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       0
[09:27] <Blippe> twirpie, it is emptied. and if you want to be real sure you could run a "apt-get clean"...
[09:27] <mojojojo_> any ideas?
[09:27] <shadeofgrey> and does anybody know why the version of openoffice that ships with flight 5 dapper is so prone to crashing?
[09:27] <GnarusLeo> !dapper
[09:27] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:27] <Blippe> twirpie, the temp folder is located in /tmp but those files are in use!
[09:27] <tristanmike> _michael_: far better than any player for windows imho
[09:27] <crimsun> GTroy: pong
[09:27] <twirpie> just "apt-get clean" without qoutes?
[09:27] <GnarusLeo> _michael_, amarok is the best there is (on all os)
[09:27] <Blippe> shadeofgrey, it os called beta stages...
[09:27] <rybuntu> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92952&page=2 its here.. gconf will do it
[09:27] <tore-> twirpie, sudo apt-get clean
[09:27] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, you might want to add rw on the options
[09:27] <joelw23> oskude, how do i get it to show up now
[09:27] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo: I second that
[09:28] <Thralas> _michael_, what's your problem? Tried to scroll up a bit but couldn't find. AmaroK won't play Mp3  or?
[09:28] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, oh?
[09:28] <irad> it's still not working
[09:28] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, and also, user
[09:28] <oskude> joelw23, you mean howto mount ? heres some info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:28] <irad> it looks like it's going to play but actually it doesn't
[09:28] <tristanmike> Thralas: no, trying to play apple tunes
[09:28] <GnarusLeo> irad, now you have to choose that engine .. check your settings ... wich program are you trying to play mp3 with?
[09:28] <Thralas> Oh irad then
[09:28] <mojojojo_> rebelguys6, I might try that, but as I said at the beginning I CAN write it
[09:28] <irad> yeah, done that
[09:28] <_michael_> tristanmike; i was using different program, totem... i'm dloading amaroK
[09:29] <twirpie> just "apt-get clean" without qoutes doesnt seem to do anything
[09:29] <Titan> Any wine experts here? No one seems to be in the winehq channel right now.
[09:29] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo: yeah of course, amaroK is my fave player :)
[09:29] <Thralas> irad, having problem with mp3 playback and amaroK?
[09:29] <irad> yeah
[09:29] <irad> and kaffeine and other :)
[09:29] <Thralas> So did I
[09:29] <Thralas> Ah well I tried amarok-xine as well
[09:29] <Blippe> twirpie... yeah, but to run apt-get you have to have priviligies to do stuff to the system... with sudo... but, it really isn't necessary, you might want to use it way later, after a lot of updates and if you have close to no space left on your harddrive
[09:29] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, though you ment it was your second choice :) I see ... both thumbs up
[09:29] <Nick-Atis> hey
[09:29] <Blippe> twirpie, So "sudo apt-get clean"
[09:29] <twirpie> ok kewl now about the $user????
[09:29] <Thralas> Until tristanmike suggested getting gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:29] <irad> and how you manage to get it work?
[09:29] <GnarusLeo> irad, try to choose the xine-engine and use either "alsa" or "oss" as output ... it really should work
[09:30] <mojojojo_> ok, better this than nothing... thx :)
[09:30] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group?
[09:30] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, yeah, i'm not sure
[09:30] <GnarusLeo> twirpie, that deppends ...
[09:30] <irad> nope, not working
[09:30] <Thralas> Even though gstreamer was already listed in AmaroK, getting that pakage fixed it for me. Xine didn't playback using neither OSS not Alsa
[09:30] <joelw23> Disk /dev/hdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[09:30] <joelw23> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[09:30] <joelw23> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:30] <joelw23>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:30] <joelw23> /dev/hdb1               1        9729    78148161    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[09:30] <Nick-Atis> does anyone know of any desktop post-it software for Ubuntu?
[09:30] <Nick-Atis> somethng like Quick Notes Plus
[09:30] <GnarusLeo> twirpie, groups are for privilegies ... depends on wich users you want to add ... normally just add them and theyr be fine :)
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> Nick-Atis: Yeah, xpad
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> Nick-Atis: Or tomboy
[09:31] <Blippe> twirpie, there is a "add new user command" that does all of that automagically...
[09:31] <Thralas> You're sure you set the engine back to gstreamer having the -mad package installed, irad ?
[09:31] <twirpie> its cause i was told never to use the root user
[09:31] <irad> no
[09:31] <oskude> joelw23, please dont paste here again, use pastebin.com or so for that
[09:31] <irad> i haven't done anything with the gstreamer
[09:31] <harm__> whats a good linux mp3 player?
[09:31] <joelw23> sorry
[09:32] <zukero> harm__ : xmms ?
[09:32] <zukero> amarok ?
[09:32] <Newbieee> I cannot mount the windows partitions
[09:32] <rebelguys6> rhythmbox
[09:32] <Blippe> Nick-Atis, search in synaptic for postit, i think i have seen at least two there before
[09:32] <Newbieee> I`ve tried...
[09:32] <harm__> ok thxzukero
[09:32] <zukero> harm__  :depending on your needs
[09:32] <mojojojo_> rebelguys6, I checked the man to make sure, "defaults" in fstab means its "rw"
[09:32] <harm__> well i want something that can play all types
[09:32] <harm__> and doesnt ave to be flasy
[09:32] <zukero> harm__  : you want a light one, or a powerfull one ?
[09:33] <zukero> ok, so go for xmms
[09:33] <Thralas> I like amaroK already
[09:33] <harm__> thank you :P
[09:33] <Nick-Atis> what about a dock application?
[09:33] <Nick-Atis> like object dock
[09:33] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, yeah i see that, did you check the logs for anything weird?
[09:33] <Blippe> i hate all the mp3-players. i use foobar2000 in wine!
[09:34] <oskude> joelw23, the "normal" way could be just adding "/dev/hdb1   /media/windows   vfat   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0" to your "/etc/fstab" file...
[09:34] <mojojojo_> rebelguys6, I'm not that advanced :] ... which one are they?
[09:34] <joelw23> i got it
[09:35] <joelw23> thanks oskude
[09:35] <ZeZu> can anyone help me out with my audio, it doesn't work anymore, everything complains it can't open it
[09:35] <oskude> joelw23, works ? do you have /media/windows directory ?
[09:35] <_michael_> tristanmike; as far as I can see amaroK is playing the m4a files nicely, but my Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra can't read m4a, do you know how to convert them safely to mp3?
[09:36] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, /var/log/messages may have some information, it sounds like its being remounted somehow
[09:36] <oskude> joelw23, ofcourse "/media/windows" can be what ever you want, it just has to exist
[09:37] <joelw23> oskude, thanks again
[09:37] <Blippe> ZeZu, you had mp3-capablilities and then it all went away?
[09:37] <ZeZu> is there an alsa.cfg somewhere that stores info no the drivers?
[09:37] <ZeZu> Blippe: yes my audio worked and then it stopped, i had been trying to get surround working
[09:38] <crimsun> ZeZu: what sound card do you have?
[09:38] <tristanmike> _michael_: well, afaik, if you have the 2 gstreamer libraries -faad and -faac those should be the decoders, and the the other two should help you encode, but again, I haven't ever used them in practice
[09:38] <ZeZu> crimsun: onboard on a asus p4c800 Delux, i think it might be ich5 ?
[09:38] <crimsun> ZeZu: pastebin ``lspci -v''
[09:38] <_michael_> tristanmike; thanks
[09:38] <c0llin> hello
[09:38] <wuzzy> hi all! how do i tell which programs/processes are using a certain file?
[09:39] <tristanmike> _michael_: anytime :)
[09:39] <mojojojo_> rebelguys6, ok, thx for the tip :)
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> (Why is #kubuntu so much lower traffic?)  How to install a KDE theme from .tar.gz?  There were instructions on kde-look.org, but that's down.
[09:39] <_jason> wuzzy: fuser
[09:39] <Blippe> tonyyarusso, you probably have to untar it (with your favourite unpacker) and read the readme!
[09:39] <_michael_> tristanmike; is afaik a program i don't have it in my repos         also, are you using KDE?
[09:40] <ZeZu> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZXxpN364.html
[09:40] <c0llin> is there a way to install winesetuptk on amd64?
[09:40] <rebelguys6> _michael_, from the command line you can try 'faad -w infile.m4a > lame -h - outfile.mp3
[09:40] <rebelguys6> '
[09:40] <rebelguys6> :)
[09:40] <tristanmike> _michael_: I use both Ubuntu and Kubuntu, right now I'm on Kubuntu :)
[09:40] <_michael_> k
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> Blippe: The readme isn't in English :(
[09:40] <crimsun> ZeZu: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[09:41] <irad> so anyone can figure out what's my sound problem is?
[09:41] <ZeZu> crimsun: no such file
[09:41] <wuzzy> _jason: ok, thanks! so if "fuser <filename>" shows nothing, the file is not open by anyone?
[09:41] <crimsun> ZeZu: pastebin ``lsmod''
[09:41] <[TechGuy] > is there a separate channel for the Ubuntu Server install set? Just trying to figure out the rationale behind PCMCIA & ALSA being included in a server install. ;)
[09:41] <crimsun> irad: what's your sound problem?
[09:41] <irad> when i play song on amarok i get this error:
[09:41] <irad> The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.
[09:41] <_jason> wuzzy: yeah, I think I have to use sudo though
[09:41] <irad> You may want to choose a different engine from the Configure Dialog, or examine the installation of the multimedia-framework that the current engine uses.
[09:41] <irad> You may find useful information in the FAQ section of the amaroK HandBook
[09:41] <mruiz> holaaaaaaa
[09:42] <crimsun> irad: breezy or dapper?
[09:42] <ZeZu> crimsun: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/6cN1rl27.html
[09:42] <wuzzy> _jason: ok thanks!
[09:42] <irad> breezy
[09:42] <irad> kubuntu
[09:42] <crimsun> irad: if you're using the gstreamer engine, do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed? If so, did you run ``sudo gst-register-0.8'' ?
[09:42] <Blippe> tonyyarusso, untar in ~/.kde/share/apps
[09:43] <irad> no, never did, because i didn't know ineed to
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Blippe: Thanks.
[09:43] <c0llin> can i install winesetuptk(i386) on ubuntu amd64?
[09:43] <C-O-L-T> GOOD NIGHT
[09:43] <av8> do i need to install kde to get other themes?
[09:43] <crimsun> ZeZu: ``sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0''
[09:43] <irad> but that's a good thing to do i think thanks :)
[09:44] <ZeZu> crimsun: all the files are not found
[09:44] <ZeZu> i can paste if you want
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Blippe: Just there, or /kthememanager?
[09:44] <crimsun> ZeZu: ``uname -r''
[09:44] <_michael_> tristanmike; faad -w Deep\ Inside.m4a > lame -h - Deep\ Inside.mp3 produced a file called lame w/ the lame helpfile text in it
[09:44] <Nick-Atis> can anyone suggest an object dock for gnome?
[09:44] <ZeZu> 2.6.12-10-386
[09:44] <_michael_> tristanmike; 'faad -w Deep\ Inside.m4a > lame -h - Deep\ Inside.mp3'
[09:44] <crimsun> ZeZu: what cpu do you have?
[09:44] <ZeZu> 686
[09:44] <wonder_> hey i have got a problem with "open with" in gnome. i want to open all video files with mplayer. when chosing it in the "open with" dialogue, it doesn't change a thing. totem is used whatever i try
[09:44] <ZeZu> p4 prescott
[09:44] <crimsun> ZeZu: ``sudo apt-get install linux-686''
[09:45] <crimsun> ZeZu: after that finishes, please reboot
[09:45] <mwe> _michael_: that's because you should probably use | instead of >
[09:45] <_michael_> ok
[09:45] <tristanmike> _michael_: get the spaces out of the file name and yes you need the >
[09:45] <rebelguys6> _michael_, oh yeah sorry about that
[09:45] <ZeZu> crimsun: when i boot it says i'm using 686, its odd i specifically checked 686
[09:45] <mwe> _michael_: you wanna pipe, not redirect
[09:45] <gomez_> #ubuntu-it
[09:45] <rebelguys6> mwe is correct
[09:45] <crimsun> ZeZu: but your uname -r isn't 686.
[09:45] <_michael_> lol, i do wanna pipe
[09:45] <ZeZu> also sorry for the dumb questions but what do the backticks do? always wondered
[09:46] <tristanmike> _michael_: err, I meant |   d'oh
[09:46] <crimsun> ZeZu: I use them to indicate a command you need to execute.
[09:46] <ZeZu> ah
[09:46] <irad> okay, now it's playing and no sound, crimsun
[09:46] <_michael_> bash: lame: command not found
[09:46] <_michael_> i need to install, don't i
[09:46] <crimsun> _michael_: install lame from multiverse
[09:46] <ZeZu> b/c they work in the console as well, and i've never found exactly what they do (i guess nothing)
[09:46] <_michael_> aight
[09:46] <crimsun> irad: do you hear sounds from other sources?
[09:46] <irad> nope
[09:46] <ZeZu> anyways thx, reboot
[09:47] <crimsun> irad: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[09:47] <irad> just installed yesterday so it's really hard to know
[09:47] <rebelguys6> ZeZu, they have meaning in shell scripts , see  http://www.signaltonoise.net/library/Adv-Bash-Scr-HOWTO/backticks.html
[09:47] <irad> kk
[09:47] <pulver> hey! is there a keybinding editor available for openbox?
[09:47] <ZeZu> ah
[09:47] <ZeZu> brb
[09:48] <irad> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Uxad4G42.html
[09:48] <irad> there you go
[09:48] <Rdde> Hey! Anyone using some sort of backup system here? I want to have a program or a script that backsup some folders to a different disk ones a week.. best way to do this?
[09:48] <rebelguys6> Rdde, cron + rsync
[09:49] <crimsun> irad: amixer -c0 sset 'External Amplifier' off
[09:49] <Rdde> rebelguys6, whats that? where can i read about it or can you explain?
[09:49] <irad> that's all?
[09:49] <crimsun> irad: test if you can hear sounds
[09:49] <[TechGuy] > Hrm... Does anyone else know about an issue with resolvconf, where /etc/resolvconf/run/interfaces is apparently not existent during initial network startup?
[09:50] <rebelguys6> Rdde, oh well the cron daemon runs things periodically, and rsync is an intelligent copy basically
[09:50] <_michael_> :@!!!!!!!!!!
[09:50] <irad> nope nothing yet
[09:50] <_michael_> playing *.mp3 -> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[09:50] <rcaskey_> Rdde: rsnapshot has been very good to me
[09:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell _michael_ about mp3
[09:50] <rcaskey_> Rdde: I recommend it highly.
[09:50] <crimsun> irad: is this a fresh install of breezy?
[09:50] <_michael_> else, it seems to have worked
[09:51] <rebelguys6> Rdde, do you want to back them up locally? or to a different computer
[09:51] <Rdde> rcaskey_,  sound interesting.. wanna tell me how it works mate? =)
[09:51] <jinkiez> ubotu: tell me about mp3
[09:51] <irad> yes it is a fresh install
[09:51] <rcaskey_> Rdde: same way basically, you install it and then you edit a single config file
[09:51] <mwe> [TechGuy] : I have no such file either. what's it supposed to be good for?
[09:51] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  localy to a hdd
[09:51] <crimsun> irad: ok, please follow the directions I'm sending you.
[09:51] <rcaskey_> you can also back up to remote hosts over ssh if you set up your keys correctly, but that's another subject
[09:51] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[09:52] <tristanmike> _michael_: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:52] <Rdde> rcaskey_, easy to backup some folders to a different hdd ones a week?
[09:52] <irad> oaky
[09:52] <tristanmike> !tell _michael_ about restricted
[09:52] <rcaskey_> Rdde: well...kinda easy
[09:52] <rcaskey_> Rdde: no gui
[09:52] <rebelguys6> Rdde, well, 'man rsync' gives lots of examples, but basicall you would have to write a shell script that lists the rsync commands
[09:52] <crimsun> irad: when following those instructions, if you encounter errors, please execute ``sudo apt-get -f install''. Then, when you get to the dpkg-reconfigure step, answer "yes" to both PnP and debug, and choose the "intel8x0" driver
[09:52] <[TechGuy] > mwe: resolvconf, from what I gather, is supposed to manage resolver DNS configs, etc. Except resolvconf isn't brought up (and the directory created) until after networking starts up. So NICs come up, but without DNS.
[09:53] <rebelguys6> Rdde, and then run the script periodically with a cron job
[09:53] <Rdde> rebelguys6, sound nice, i will give it a try.. thanks mate
[09:53] <mwe> I read kde has problems with gstreamer. I couldn't make it work with kde either
[09:53] <crimsun> BlueHeron: unless it's a life-or-death matter, please keep it in the channel, thanks
[09:53] <haakonn> hi. i recently discovered that flash files in firefox have no sound. they used to have. i don't know what has happened. no sound in mozilla either. any suggestions?
[09:53] <mwe> [TechGuy] : well /etc/resolv.conf is supposed to contain your dns servers
[09:54] <[TechGuy] > ::sighs:: I know that.
[09:54] <mwe> [TechGuy] : /etc/network/interfaces is supposed to contain your interface config
[09:55] <[TechGuy] > mwe, I would prefer someone who knew something about the resolvconf package itself. I am very familiar with the existing way of where things are, thanks.
[09:55] <Newbieee> what that mean? Add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> Could someone please translate http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10929 into English for me?  I suspect it may be Italian.  Thanks.
[09:55] <Stormx2> How do I restart alsa?
[09:55] <NickGarvey> !alsa
[09:55] <ubotu> alsa is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[09:55] <Newbieee> what should I do?
[09:56] <sfar-ubu> is it possible to "move" partitions? my windows partition wont boot and i guess it's because its after my 25GB ubuntu partition..
[09:56] <polpak> Newbieee, sudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: what happes when you try to move it?
[09:56] <sfar-ubu> i dont even know how to move it :)
[09:56] <NickGarvey> I ment boot it*
[09:56] <sfar-ubu> grub error 18
[09:57] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  i know it is mutch to ask but there is no way you can send me at least some parts of your script? i havent started jet but i get the feeling i could need it =)
[09:57] <deefzi> wow, first i extracted one .rar to dozens of .zip-files, then all the .zips contained each one .rar-file, which had to be extracted for one .gz-file.
[09:57] <sfar-ubu> "Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS. This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area."
[09:57] <deefzi> talk about perversed file compression
[09:57] <rebelguys6> sure rdde
[09:57] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: woo what did you do
[09:58] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  really nice of you mate
[09:58] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: from what that says it seems that it wants the partition to be in the space 1-10, but instead is in the space 2-11
[09:58] <sfar-ubu> Hm.. okay, is that fixable?
[09:59] <NickGarvey> his generally happens if your disk is larger than the BIOS can handle (512MB for (E)IDE disks on older machines or larger than 8GB in general).
[09:59] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: when did this error start happening?
[09:59] <av8> does anyone know much about windows logon script?
[09:59] <NickGarvey> 'Try an update for your BIOS and/or move your boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range). "
[10:00] <sfar-ubu> after i installed windows.. then i tried to recover grub acoording to the guide on the wiki.. that didnt work so i reinstalled ubuntu instead :)
[10:00] <_michael_> faad -w infile.m4a | lame -h - outfile.mp3   is for one file, how can I do it with the same name into a different directory for multiple fiiles?
[10:00] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656&highlight=grub+error+collection
[10:00] <NickGarvey> I know its gentoo but should still have some helpful info
[10:00] <NickGarvey> do you know how to update your bios?
[10:00] <tment> Hey guys, do you think that dapper flight 5 will run smoothly on a P2 400mhz 96mb ram laptop?
[10:00] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[10:00] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:01] <av8> i need some help with windows login script to keep track of the username, login time and logout time from the domain..
[10:01] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  im doing the backup of pictures that is loded from my windows computer over samba.. this isnt a problem is it?
[10:01] <NickGarvey> av8: mm I think #windows would be your best bet
[10:01] <crimsun> tment: 96 MB is pushing it; you want more RAM.
[10:01] <av8> thanks nick
[10:01] <looksaus> anyone gotten simplebackup to work?
[10:01] <sfar-ubu> NickGarvey, this is a pretty old computer.. can i see wich bios i have in bios?
[10:01] <rebelguys6> rdde, if you can read the files it should be fine
[10:01] <cyb0rg> eh .. I see everyobody's MAD about Ubuntu. What does Ubuntu bring extra than Debian ? Or is it simply designed to be easier on the noobies than Debian ?
[10:01] <BlueHeron> tment, smoothly .. probably now
[10:01] <BlueHeron> tment, not*
[10:02] <looksaus> I'm trying to get it working with passwordless ssh key auth
[10:02] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  nice, proably best to not have any compression..? do you use compression?
[10:02] <tment> Ayt. I'll still try though. Runs nice with Celeron 400 128.
[10:02] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: I bet thats why, well you could open it up, although going into setup when your computer is booting should do it
[10:02] <patrick52222> what would /dev/sda be
[10:02] <looksaus> ssh key auth works, in nautilus as well as in a terminal, but not within simplebackup...
[10:02] <BlueHeron> whats the best way to backup a full breezy installation ?
[10:03] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  can you send me the script matE?
[10:03] <sfar-ubu> NickGarvey, thanks.. ill have a look :>
[10:04] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: dd :)
[10:05] <zezu> crimsun, that worked thanks
[10:05] <crimsun> zezu: excellent.
[10:05] <fredodido> Hi could anyone help me in configuration my Wifi connexion?
[10:05] <patrick52222> how do i format a usb hdd
[10:05] <patrick52222> on ubuntu
[10:06] <Nick-Atis> are viruses / spyware a problem on Linux?
[10:06] <crimsun> patrick52222: the same way you'd format any mass storage. Use mkfs.
[10:06] <polpak> Nick-Atis, nope
[10:06] <Nick-Atis> and if so, what is used to combat them?
[10:06] <patrick52222> where do i get that
[10:06] <polpak> Nick-Atis, I think there's a program called Clam-AV that is used as an anti-virus app
[10:06] <fredodido> I need to set up to configuration one with a WPA key and an other without any Key
[10:06] <Nick-Atis> polpak: I figured there wouldn't be a lot of that to deal with
[10:07] <polpak> Nick-Atis, but there really aren't any in the wild
[10:07] <fredodido> Does anyone know how to create 2 profiles for this?
[10:07] <Shrdlu> Hey, noob question -- I installed the JDK using a self-extracting bin from Sun's site, but I accidentally put it in ~ instead of /usr/local/ like I meant to.  Is there any easy way to move it?
[10:07] <polpak> patrick52222, it's installed already
[10:07] <Shrdlu> I mean, I could just move the whole tree, but I feel like that'd probably break something.
[10:07] <DJ_Tobias> all monitors can use the DVI output of a video card right?
[10:07] <polpak> !tell Shrdlu about java
[10:07] <_jason> Shrdlu: you should just use the already made debs
[10:07] <xerophyte> is there any open source solution like this one http://www.dualdesk.com/ ??
[10:07] <itay> Hi, does anyone know which file should I download to install Skype on Ubuntu?
[10:07] <DJ_Tobias> !tell DJ_Tobias about DVI
[10:08] <polpak> !tell xerophyte about skype
[10:08] <harm__> i have an extreem slow speed with bittoret
[10:08] <harisund> hello everyone. I am trying to understand what a frame buffer is, and more particularly, for laptops should framebuffers be enabled or disabled? whats the difference, or does the end user see no particular difference?
[10:08] <_jason> Shrdlu: actually... is jdk the same as sdk?
[10:08] <harm__> like on windows with bitcomet i can get 150KB/s easy but now i have 0.25kb/s
[10:08] <Talon> hey... anyone know anything about pci cards with ubuntu
[10:09] <predius_> Talon: what kind of pci cards?
[10:09] <Shrdlu> _jason: Same basic idea.  JDK is Sun's Java SDK.
[10:09] <Talon> bcm43xx
[10:09] <polpak> harm__, are you using a firewall/router device w/ your broadband connection?
[10:09] <DJ_Tobias> Talon, what do you mean pci cards with ubuntu? What kind!
[10:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell Shrdlu about javadebs
[10:09] <Shrdlu> polpak: I got that, thanks. The point is I screwed up and installed it in the wrong place, and now trying to recover from that.
[10:09] <xerophyte> polpak,  ???
[10:09] <Talon> well i cant even get it to turn on
[10:09] <predius_> Talon: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[10:09] <Talon> i just started using unix 2 days ago so i am fairly new at this
[10:09] <Talon> yeahi used that predius
[10:09] <polpak> Shrdlu, just rm the directory from your home and install the java deb, or follow the wiki instructions
[10:10] <_jason> Shrdlu: I would just remove that and use the deb from seveas' site
[10:10] <rebelguys6> harisund, framebuffers are for console mode to enable higher resolutions. It's nice to have.
[10:10] <polpak> xerophyte, did you ready the url ubotu sent you?
[10:10] <rebelguys6> but not completely necessaryt
[10:10] <harisund> Oh thanks rebelguy ..
[10:10] <Shrdlu> So I can just rm it without worrying about breaking any symlinks or anything?
[10:10] <harm__> polpak i have it on my router
[10:10] <Okay> ndiswrapper is only for wifi driver or for all windows drivers?
[10:10] <harm__> good point hold on :P
[10:10] <NickGarvey> hmm I think so oK
[10:10] <rebelguys6> Okay, only wifi
[10:10] <NickGarvey> Okay: *
[10:10] <Nick-Atis> okay, here's a fun question. Feel free to participate if you want, if not, nevermind
[10:10] <harisund> so rebelguy, do you suggest I simply go ahead without a framebuffer?
[10:10] <Talon> my quesion is when i went the to the devices file . then the pci file the state says 0 wich means off right?
[10:10] <Nick-Atis> what are the top 5 coolest applications on Linux?
[10:10] <Okay> thx, rebelguys6
[10:10] <NickGarvey> apache
[10:11] <rebelguys6> harisund, oh, well you should include it, becuase its also used for boot splash screens
[10:11] <polpak> Nick-Atis, lol, for server or desktop?
[10:11] <Shrdlu> Cause I mean, it's easy to just delete it, I just want to make sure that won't screw anything up if it's expected to be there.
[10:11] <harm__> urm..
[10:11] <Nick-Atis> desktop
[10:11] <harisund> Ah .. I see.. ok cool.. will do that then..
[10:11] <Nick-Atis> because that's what  use
[10:11] <NickGarvey> oh well um
[10:11] <xerophyte> polpak, i know skype
[10:11] <NickGarvey> gaim
[10:11] <xerophyte> polpak, i am not looking for skype
[10:11] <harm__> whats a good bittorent client? i normally use bitcomet or utorrent..
[10:11] <harisund> And Nick-Atis, do you mea particularly Linux software? Ones that don't work on Windows?
[10:11] <_jason> Shrdlu: even if some symlinks do get broken, they should get fixed when you install the deb. That's what I assume anyway
[10:11] <frederik> I'm a Linux newbie. I installed Ubuntu earlier today. Now I've reached the point where I need to edit a file that's write-protected and owned by root. What's the smart way to do this? I read something about sudo, but I thought I might ask in here. Thx for your answers
[10:11] <harm__> but since those arnt linux..
[10:11] <Talon> if the state of my pci card is 0  need to change it to 1 but even when i log in as root it says i do not have permission to change the file
[10:11] <Shrdlu> _jason: Okay, I'll give it a shot.  Thanks. :)
[10:11] <Nick-Atis> harisund: yeah
[10:12] <NickGarvey> frederik: sudo gedit "file"
[10:12] <polpak> frederik, sudo gedit /path/to/file
[10:12] <harm__> frederik .. sudo vi /FILELOCATIOn
[10:12] <NickGarvey> hmm vi might be a bit much harm__
[10:12] <Bowsa> hello
[10:12] <harm__> ah ok :)
[10:12] <polpak> harm__, lol, don't recommend vi to linux newbs ;p
[10:12] <frederik> heh, I've seen vi. I'll use gedit, thank you very much :)
[10:12] <polpak> harm__, at the very least use nano
[10:12] <harm__> well thats what i got when i startedout
[10:12] <Bowsa> anyone know how i can get cedega to install
[10:12] <soundray> frederik: hit Alt-F2 and enter "gksudo gedit /path/file" (better than earlier recommendations)
[10:12] <harm__> debian net install so yah..
[10:12] <frederik> Exactly. VI reminded me of edlin, if anyone remembers that
[10:12] <NickGarvey> yeah same with me harm__
[10:13] <soundray> frederik: now that's grossly unfair ;)
[10:13] <irad> crimsun: how long have you been using linux?
[10:13] <harm__> it was like.. here u go a do it yourself linux.. and i was like. D00d wtf where is my desktop!?
[10:13] <frederik> sorry ^
[10:13] <crimsun> irad: since '95
[10:13] <polpak> Nick-Atis, really the question is what sorts of things do you want to do on your linux desktop
[10:13] <harm__> and there was no desktop :(
[10:13] <frederik> ^^
[10:13] <Nick-Atis> lol
[10:13] <irad> so that's why you know all those stuff hehe
[10:13] <irad> how old are you?
[10:13] <Stormx2> 5
[10:13] <esc_ape> how can I scan what ports are open?
[10:13] <crimsun> irad: please migrate to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:13] <esc_ape> without using shields up
[10:14] <NickGarvey> esc_ape: nmap
[10:14] <Nick-Atis> I was just trying to get everyone elses oppinions to see what they do with their systems and find out about interesting stuff
[10:14] <irad> hehe okay
[10:14] <DBO> esc_ape, nmap
[10:14] <NickGarvey> esc_ape: thats what I use
[10:14] <soundray> frederik, vi is well designed - just takes getting used to. Nobody ever got used to edlin...
[10:14] <DBO> doh... too slow
[10:14] <Stormx2> hey everyone by the way  how's it going?
[10:14] <polpak> esc_ape, on your local computer, or a remote host?
[10:14] <NickGarvey> !nmap
[10:14] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[10:14] <esc_ape> what would be full commend for nmap?
[10:14] <esc_ape> polpak - my local comp
[10:14] <polpak> esc_ape, dont' use nmap
[10:14] <esc_ape> *command
[10:14] <frederik> I sure didn't. However, I did manage to delete a lot of lines unintendidly :S
[10:14] <Nick-Atis> not as like a definitive list
[10:14] <polpak> esc_ape, just netstat -an | grep LISTEN
[10:14] <DBO> esc_ape, nmap <IP TO SCAN>
[10:14] <frederik> *dedly
[10:14] <harm__> could some one recommend me a good low resource-hoggin bittorent client(not default on nor azeraus)
[10:14] <NickGarvey> !nmap is a network scanning tool, http://www.insecure.org/nmap/index.html
[10:14] <ubotu> okay, NickGarvey
[10:14] <NickGarvey> !nmap
[10:14] <ubotu> nmap is probably a network scanning tool, http://www.insecure.org/nmap/index.html
[10:15] <soundray> !info nmap
[10:15] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[10:15] <tofou34> hello
[10:15] <NickGarvey> hello
[10:16] <tofou34> first time I chat on this channel. You ?
[10:16] <twirpie> do pc games work with linux?
[10:16] <mds\> ack.  I hate being a newb
[10:16] <polpak> Nick-Atis, oh, well I use Jedit &  Glade for programming, Xchat for chatting, gimp and inkscape for drawing, blender for 3d modeling, wine for gaming
[10:16] <NickGarvey> !games
[10:16] <harm__> twirpie they do but not by defaul
[10:16] <ubotu> games is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[10:16] <polpak> twirpie, some do, some don't
[10:16] <twirpie> how?
[10:16] <NickGarvey> mds\: time my friend time :-P
[10:16] <harm__> wine and cedega
[10:16] <polpak> twirpie, wine or cedega
[10:17] <NickGarvey> !tell twirpie about cedega
[10:17] <irad> crimsun: okay done all of those things you told me
[10:17] <harm__> cedega costs money which is very uncool
[10:17] <twirpie> man seems nothing is compatable with linux :(
[10:17] <mds\> thanks NickGarvey..  I know but it's soo damn cool and I feel so inept lol
[10:17] <polpak> harm__, costing money isn't terribly uncool, it's their lack of support for their roots (the wine project) that urks me
[10:18] <tofou34> is anyone use sunbird on ubuntu ?
[10:18] <crimsun> irad: has that process completed successfully?
[10:18] <polpak> twirpie, savage, and savage2 are native
[10:18] <irad> yeah
[10:18] <polpak> twirpie, ut2004, quake, and Neverwinter Nights are native
[10:18] <crimsun> irad: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/{cards,version}''
[10:19] <tristanmike> twirpie: Doom3 is native
[10:19] <twirpie> native?
[10:19] <harm__> i wish cs1.6 is.. iam going to learn howto install it later today :| not appy about that thought
[10:19] <tristanmike> twirpie: made for
[10:19] <polpak> twirpie, runs without cedega or wine
[10:19] <Stormx2> sunbird... hmm... what is that?
[10:19] <twirpie> oh so how do i run quake?
[10:19] <irad> 0 [I82801BAICH2   ] : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2
[10:19] <irad>                      Intel 82801BA-ICH2 with AD1881A at 0x1400, irq 5
[10:19] <irad> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.
[10:19] <irad> Compiled on Mar 27 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-10-386.
[10:19] <NickGarvey> !paste
[10:19] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:19] <Stormx2> !sunbird
[10:19] <ubotu> Stormx2: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:19] <polpak> !quake
[10:19] <ubotu> polpak: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:19] <tristanmike> twirpie: buy it :)
[10:19] <NickGarvey> !info quake
[10:19] <twirpie> lol
[10:19] <crimsun> irad: please use pastebin next time.
[10:19] <polpak> hrm..
[10:19] <NickGarvey> !info quake2
[10:19] <_michael_> 'faad -w infile.m4a | lame -h - outfile.mp3' changes one at a time, how can i change a few at a time?
[10:19] <ubotu> quake2: (improved version of id Software's Quake II engine), section multiverse/games, is optional. Version: 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1240 kB, Installed size: 3144 kB
[10:19] <irad> oh, i thought that 4 lines isn't alot
[10:19] <irad> sorry
[10:19] <tofou34> mozilla sunbird
[10:20] <esc_ape> argh...this does not makes sense..!
[10:20] <sfar-ubu> get quake here: ftp://ftp.yi.se/pub/software/equake/
[10:20] <tristanmike> twirpie: you can get America's Army, and Enemy Territory for free
[10:20] <Stormx2> tofou34: Let me take a looky for you. Whats the problem?
[10:20] <sfar-ubu> (not warez)
[10:20] <harm__> quake1? or 3?
[10:20] <crimsun> irad: ``sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0''
[10:20] <sfar-ubu> quake 1 of course :)
[10:20] <NickGarvey> irad: normally its not, but because this channel is always packed anything more than 2 lines is usually too much
[10:20] <twirpie> i got enemy territory but how do i run the thing? :)
[10:20] <Bowsa> can someone tell me what a tgz file is for
[10:21] <harm__> its like a linux .zip
[10:21] <polpak> !quake4 is Quake 4 runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[10:21] <harm__> bowsa
[10:21] <ubotu> okay, polpak
[10:21] <Bowsa> ah
[10:21] <polpak> !quake4
[10:21] <ubotu> it has been said that quake4 is Quake 4 runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[10:21] <tofou34> I dowloaded the archive file but I don't know how to install the software
[10:21] <tristanmike> twirpie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy
[10:21] <soundray> Bowsa it's a package format for the Slackware distribution
[10:21] <irad> okay sorry next time i won't do it
[10:21] <irad> crimsun: done that
[10:21] <engla> Bowsa: you should be able to double-click it and browse it/extract
[10:21] <niki> are there any good MMORPG's for linux?
[10:21] <crimsun> irad: now use a volume control/alsamixer to unmute and to adjust the appropriate volumes
[10:21] <polpak> !quake is Quake is available for linux.. See http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Quake-HOWTO.html for details
[10:21] <ubotu> polpak: I think you lost me on that one
[10:22] <polpak> !quake
[10:22] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, polpak
[10:22] <polpak> !quake is Quake is available for linux.. See http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Quake-HOWTO.html for details
[10:22] <harm__> ok we get the quake stuff =X
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> is there an executable Apache/MySQL/PHP/PHPMyAdmin etc installation for Ubuntu?
[10:22] <irad> crimsun: why does it have to be so complicated?
[10:22] <NickGarvey> Nick-Atis: well not that easy
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> :-(
[10:22] <NickGarvey> Nick-Atis: like not auto like that, but its trivial to install those
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> I love my easy quick installers for windows
[10:22] <crimsun> irad: because it's breezy. Hopefully it's not an issue in dapper because of newer drivers.
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> oh
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> good
[10:23] <Rayman> good evening. is hosting a VLC server how resource expensive? the computer is a P II and I don't want to kill it.
[10:23] <W8TAH> Quick question folks -- new install of breezy  -- im trying to compile gpredict (the new version) i installed Gcc and automake -- what else needs to be installed to let me install stuff?
[10:23] <Nick-Atis> I just use them for local testing
[10:23] <NickGarvey> Nick-Atis: apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5 php4
[10:23] <engla> W8TAH: build-essential has the essential stuff :)
[10:23] <NickGarvey> !info build-essentials
[10:23] <irad> oh go it hehe
[10:23] <irad> got*
[10:23] <NickGarvey> I remember the good ole days when I could spell
[10:23] <engla> W8TAH: other things could be needed, ./configure should give you a clue
[10:23] <W8TAH> engla, ok -- thanks
[10:23] <NickGarvey> !info build-essential
[10:23] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[10:23] <_jason> W8TAH: you should generally install stuff from the repos instead of compiling
[10:23] <polpak> !lamp
[10:23] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:23] <twirpie> where can i get a list of available games for linux?
[10:23] <NickGarvey> !games
[10:24] <ubotu> methinks games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[10:24] <W8TAH> _jason, i agree, however the new version is not in the repos yet
[10:24] <NickGarvey> I think gamelist is what you are looking for twirpie
[10:24] <_jason> W8TAH: ah ok
[10:24] <twirpie> ok where?
[10:24] <harm__> twirpie http://linux-gamers.org/
[10:24] <irad> okay done no music
[10:24] <polpak> !tell twirpie about games
[10:24] <irad> listen i have in the configure of the engine in my amarok
[10:24] <irad> a place called : device
[10:25] <irad> do i need to do anything there maybe?
[10:25] <mds\> w
[10:25] <frederik> I tried with "gksudo gedit /thepath/thefile.ext" but the file opened was empty. Running in command line, I get the following message: "None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed." What do I do wrong?
[10:25] <W8TAH> Thanks folks - build essentials is installing now
[10:25] <polpak> !tell Nick-Atis about lamp
[10:25] <elvyn> hola quien habla espanol
[10:25] <twirpie> thank you
[10:25] <elvyn> tengo un problemita
[10:26] <harm__> frederik just do sudo gedit /location
[10:26] <elvyn> en ubuntu
[10:26] <mds\> When I have to manually install progs, is putting them in /usr/lib and then linking from /usr/local/bin the ubuntu way?
[10:26] <polpak> !es
[10:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:26] <soundray> frederik: the user you are logged in as has to have admin rights.
[10:26] <irad> !he
[10:26] <ubotu> irad: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:26] <frederik> he has / I have
[10:26] <harm__> .. soundray u bypass that with sudo
[10:26] <Nick-Atis> thanks polpak
[10:26] <polpak> mds\, what do you mean "manually install progs"
[10:26] <harm__> frederik where is the file located? and sometimes files are empty
[10:26] <frederik> I haven't changed much and it was the first user, I created, during install
[10:26] <soundray> frederik: just type "groups" in a terminal to see whether you are in the admin group.
[10:26] <crimsun> irad: you can leave it at "default" if you're referring to the gstreamer engine's alsasink properties
[10:27] <mds\> like ff 1.5, I just extracted the tar and put the folder in /usr/lib
[10:27] <polpak> mds\,
[10:27] <NickGarvey> !ff1.5
[10:27] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:27] <polpak> !tell mds\ about ff1.5
[10:27] <irad> 
[10:27] <irad> okay
[10:27] <soundray> frederik: what file are you trying to edit?
[10:27] <irad> it's still not playing music, just show that it's playing blank music
[10:27] <mds\> thanks polpak
[10:28] <VincentMX> hi
[10:28] <frederik> harm (I can't pms you since I haven't authed with freenode): I found the file via the browser in the "alt+F2" thing, so the path should be good
[10:28] <Nick-Atis> is there a notification area application with shortcuts for MySQL, Apache and PHP tasks and files?
[10:28] <polpak> Nick-Atis, not sure what you mean?
[10:28] <frederik> I'm trying to edit the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file for wpa-encryption to my access-point
[10:29] <Nick-Atis> in Windows, many of the packaged installations (like WAMP) put an icon in the tray for starting/stopping apache/mysql and links to the config files
[10:29] <frederik> Is there a keybard-shortcut for a terminal window, by the way?
[10:29] <soundray> frederik: wpa_supplicant is not really the easiest thing to start with as you learn ubuntu...
[10:29] <skypa> greetings
[10:29] <Nick-Atis> is there anything like that for Linux?
[10:29] <NickGarvey> frederik: you can set one
[10:29] <skypa> is there a ubuntu installer which is capable of installing to a nfs mount? :)
[10:30] <stimpie> does someone know a AIX2 softphone for linux?
[10:30] <soundray> frederik: no, but you can make one in System-Preferences-Shortcuts
[10:30] <harm__> er.. just wondering in xmms i closed the play windows.. so its all hiden now.. how do hell do i get it back?
[10:30] <frederik> soundray, You are probably right. However, I have good guides, some flair and lots of patience :)
[10:30] <NickGarvey> harm__: go to a terminal and type fg xmms
[10:30] <soundray> frederik: Keyboard shortcuts that is.
[10:30] <darko> hello
[10:30] <Karlprof> Umm.
[10:30] <michel41> hello! can you french?
[10:30] <darko> someone can help
[10:30] <darko> me?
[10:30] <harm__> thx nickgarvey :p
[10:30] <irad> i also try playing files in xmms and the same problem appear
[10:30] <Karlprof> What's "ubuntu-desktop"?
[10:30] <frederik> Yeah, I got that one. Thanks
[10:30] <VincentMX> I've made w batch file in windows, and i'm trying to make a linux version of it so i can use it in linux as well, but what i don't know any equalivents for GOTO and :SOMETHING
[10:30] <NickGarvey> Nick-Atis: I don't know?  I think google is your best bet
[10:30] <soundray> frederik: can you do a 'cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' - that'll just dump the file contents in the terminal.
[10:30] <Karlprof> I'm assuming it isn't the... ubuntu... desktop... because that wouldn't be uninstalled along with Samba, would it?
[10:31] <soundray> frederik: if there is any.
[10:31] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: mm yes it is
[10:31] <polpak> Nick-Atis, the start-stop scripts are in /etc/init.d
[10:31] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: doing apt-get remove samba?
[10:31] <Karlprof> Something like that.
[10:31] <NickGarvey> darko: what can we do for you?
[10:31] <frederik> soundray, yeah, the cat dumps the file alright
[10:31] <harm__> OMG i hate this song and nickgarvey it isnt stopping or anything.. NOooo
[10:31] <crimsun> irad: can you hear anything with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?
[10:31] <gfxstyler> hi
[10:31] <irad> haaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:31] <irad> omg crimsun
[10:31] <NickGarvey> harm__: oh, then type "killall xmms"
[10:32] <darko> how can i active my root
[10:32] <irad> i plugged it into the wrong place
[10:32] <gfxstyler> darko: why you want to do that
[10:32] <NickGarvey> !tell darko about root
[10:32] <irad> i thought so!
[10:32] <irad> hehehe
[10:32] <crimsun> irad: heh.
[10:32] <gfxstyler> darko: anyway, you can do that with "sudo passwd root"
[10:32] <Karlprof> NickGarvey, so is it actually possible to wipe samba without buggering things up?
[10:32] <darko> yea
[10:32] <soundray> frederik: see if you can open the file read-only in gedit, by entering the command without (gk)sudo
[10:32] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: let me try
[10:32] <darko> but when i type my password
[10:32] <Karlprof> (Ubuntu-desktop sounds important. Very important.)
[10:32] <darko> i cant login
[10:32] <darko> somthing like i access dinied
[10:33] <darko> or frong password
[10:33] <_jason> Karlprof: it's just a meta-package, safe to remove
[10:33] <gfxstyler> you have to type in the correct password
[10:33] <soundray> Karlprof: it's just a collection of dependencies, really. Important only when you upgrade.
[10:33] <skypa> no one aware of a ubuntu installer which is capable of installing to a nfs mount instead of a harddisk? :)
[10:33] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: whats your command?
[10:33] <skypa> *local harddisk
[10:33] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: apt-get remove samba is fine for me
[10:33] <soundray> !nfsinstall
[10:33] <frederik> soundray, I can
[10:33] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, soundray
[10:33] <Nick-Atis> how is Ruby on Rails installation on Ubuntu?
[10:34] <Nick-Atis> easy?
[10:34] <NickGarvey> !ruby
[10:34] <ubotu> ruby is probably an object oriented programming/scripting language born in Japan. You can download it at the command line by sudo apt-get install ruby1.8.
[10:34] <soundray> frederik: you could now make your changes, then save the file temporarily in your home or on your desktop, then try to copy it to /etc/ with sudo cp
[10:34] <Karlprof> Nick, being ever so slightly on the nooby side... I'm in Synaptic.
[10:34] <lzap> !python
[10:34] <ubotu> [python]  an easy-to-learn yet powerful programming language! http://www.python.org/
[10:34] <gfxstyler> !c++
[10:34] <lzap> !google
[10:34] <ubotu> I heard google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[10:34] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: ah, I have never opened synaptic, wonder what its like
[10:34] <Nick-Atis> wow
[10:34] <lzap> !ubotu
[10:34] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:34] <BlueHeron> i wonder if
[10:35] <BlueHeron> you hit sudo rm -r /*
[10:35] <BlueHeron> would it work ?
[10:35] <Karlprof> Samba-common -> 'complete removal' -> Warning: Must remove something, something else and ubuntu desktop.
[10:35] <gfxstyler> BlueHeron: don't do that
[10:35] <Nick-Atis> I should just put an ! before anything I'm thinking of asking about first
[10:35] <NickGarvey> BlueHeron: good chance of it.. be careful with sudo
[10:35] <BlueHeron> gfxstyler, i won't lol
[10:35] <gfxstyler> BlueHeron: better is sudo rm -r -f /* :P
[10:35] <Nick-Atis> I seem to be underestimating ubotu's knowledge
[10:35] <soundray> BlueHeron: only if you add an f (rm -rf)
[10:35] <BlueHeron> i'm making a full backup now was just wondering if it works both ways.
[10:35] <BlueHeron> soundray, whats the f
[10:35] <rebelguys6> force
[10:35] <gfxstyler> BlueHeron: force
[10:35] <BlueHeron> i see
[10:35] <gfxstyler> damn
[10:35] <gfxstyler> you were faster
[10:35] <gfxstyler> :P
[10:35] <soundray> BlueHeron: force removal of non-empty directories
[10:35] <BlueHeron> so the system would crash ?
[10:36] <rebelguys6> i didn't have to type BlueHeron
[10:36] <BlueHeron> or wouldn't reboot or what
[10:36] <rebelguys6> :)
[10:36] <gfxstyler> BlueHeron: i did that once
[10:36] <gfxstyler> no good
[10:36] <soundray> BlueHeron: it would not boot again.
[10:36] <darko> NickGarvey, i have problem i cant open update window
[10:36] <BlueHeron> damn lol
[10:36] <NickGarvey> darko: what update?
[10:36] <BlueHeron> im making a complete backup now :-)
[10:36] <darko> i have typed my root password but still nothing
[10:36] <frederik> soundray, when I try to type in gedit in a read-only file, the caret just stands still
[10:36] <VincentMX> I've made w batch file in windows, and i'm trying to make a linux version of it so i can use it in linux as well, but what i don't know any equalivents for GOTO and :SOMETHING. anybody can help me?
[10:36] <darko> to upadate my packs
[10:36] <BlueHeron> i love how in linux a complete backup is only 2 commands, one to make it one to restore it
[10:36] <NickGarvey> darko: use your user password
[10:36] <darko> yea
[10:36] <soundray> frederik: save it to your home directory first, then try to edit.
[10:36] <darko> but still nothing
[10:36] <NickGarvey> BlueHeron: (how do you back up things like that?)
[10:37] <frederik> soundray, ahh, will do
[10:37] <BlueHeron> NickGarvey, one sec
[10:37] <darko> NickGarvey, i recive message with you dont have permision or your root password is invalid
[10:37] <NickGarvey> darko: sure you are using the right password?
[10:37] <rebelguys6> VincentMX, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[10:37] <VincentMX> thnx
[10:37] <darko> NickGarvey, yes
[10:37] <darko> NickGarvey, i know what password i have set.
[10:37] <NickGarvey> darko: did you sudo passwd root?
[10:37] <NickGarvey> and try to reset?
[10:38] <frederik> soundray, it seems sudo (instead of gksudo) did the job
[10:38] <BlueHeron> NickGarvey, i sent you a PM
[10:38] <evilbulgarian> whats the way to display the hostname in the motd file ?
[10:38] <BlueHeron> evilbulgarian, cat
[10:38] <darko> yes
[10:38] <BlueHeron> evilbulgarian, cat /etc/hosts or cat /etc/hostname
[10:38] <soundray> frederik: there is a slight risk in using sudo for a graphical program like gedit
[10:38] <frederik> soundray, what's the risk?
[10:38] <BlueHeron> your system can die
[10:38] <soundray> frederik, in that it can hang and become invisible.
[10:38] <evilbulgarian> so it will actually execute a command or do i use ` `
[10:39] <soundray> frederik: then you won't be able to start another sudo (or gksudo) session.
[10:39] <seejay> hi, I am trying to upgrade to Dapper and I get an error "Kernel version too old." when installing initramfs-tools, lots of stuff depends on this which is casuing problems for me
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> Do I dare attempt WPA with Breezy or should I just wait it out?
[10:39] <polpak> !dapper
[10:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:39] <soundray> frederik: it sounds contrived, but has happened.
[10:39] <frederik> soundray, as in never-ever?
[10:39] <darko> NickGarvey, can i paste here?
[10:40] <polpak> darko, no
[10:40] <NickGarvey> !pastebin
[10:40] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[10:40] <polpak> !tell darko about pastebin
[10:40] <darko> ok
[10:40] <Tom-Soja> Hi
[10:40] <Tic0> Does ubuntu support the Ralink RT61 or known as RT2600?
[10:40] <soundray> frederik: if you do sudo nano, you'll get an editor within the terminal which is reasonably friendly, too.
[10:40] <Tom-Soja> Download Kubuntu 5.10 (breezy)<- is this stable?
[10:40] <polpak> Tom-Soja, yes
[10:40] <harm__> xmms is the shitties looking player ever
[10:40] <frederik> soundray, sounds like a good alternative, thanks
[10:40] <harm__> Breezy is stable
[10:40] <gfxstyler> harm__: try beep-media-player
[10:40] <harm__> Tom-Soja yes it is
[10:40] <Tom-Soja> good, thank you
[10:40] <gfxstyler> harm__: its like xmms but better and nicer
[10:40] <NickGarvey> !tell harm__ about bmp
[10:40] <harm__> beter as in more filesupport?
[10:41] <Tic0> Anyone using a Ralink rt61/rt2600 wireless card?
[10:41] <soundray> Tic0: there is a kernel module rt61 in dapper.
[10:41] <Tom-Soja> i think i replace knoppix with ubuntu
[10:41] <NickGarvey> Tom-Soja: :) try the live cd if you are unsure
[10:41] <Tic0> sound i can detect it in dapper latest beta but it wont work
[10:41] <polpak> Tom-Soja, certainly has a larger, more friendly userbase
[10:41] <JackRazz> does dapper-drake use XFree 3.3 or 4.x series...I'm trying to set up ubuntu under vmware to use my intellimouse
[10:41] <ubuntu_> can i resize ntfs partition in ubutntu
[10:41] <JackRazz> which config should i be editing
[10:41] <NickGarvey> !tell JackRazz about dapper
[10:41] <crimsun> JackRazz: neither. X.Org 7.0
[10:41] <Tom-Soja> i have some experience with ubuntu i like it
[10:42] <soundray> Tic0: I see. Sry I haven't got the hardware to test it here.
[10:42] <soundray> Tic0: is it a USB device?
[10:42] <Nick-Atis> I followed the instructions for disabling the synaptic touchpad, yet mine still works absolutely fine
[10:42] <polpak> ubuntu_, for some reason I have problems resizing ntfs using the breezy live CD. You can do it with knoppix though
[10:42] <Nick-Atis> any ideas on how to get rid of it?
[10:42] <Nick-Atis> (without tearing it out...)
[10:42] <polpak> Nick-Atis, did you restart X ?
[10:42] <JackRazz> hey crimsun so i should be editing x.org?
[10:42] <soundray> Nick-Atis: tpconfig
[10:42] <Tic0> Im on dialup  for that pc till i can figure it out. Was hoping for someone to have the same type of chipset here.
[10:42] <soundray> !info tpconfig
[10:42] <JackRazz> xorg.config
[10:42] <ubotu> tpconfig: (configure touchpad devices), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 3.1.3-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 57 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[10:42] <Nick-Atis> polpak: yep
[10:42] <darko> NickGarvey, i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10931
[10:43] <darko> i have typed my root password
[10:43] <darko> but still nothing
[10:43] <JackRazz> crimsun, should I edit Xorg.config???
[10:43] <soundray> Tic0: how is that wireless card connected?
[10:44] <Tic0> Sound: i have a router on a different pc. But the pc with the wireless card is upstairs.
[10:44] <Nick-Atis> JackRazz: are you comfortable with Shell commands?
[10:44] <Stormx2> Hiya
[10:44] <Nick-Atis> because if you make a mistake, that's all you'll be able to do
[10:44] <JackRazz> if thats what I need to do
[10:44] <Newbieee> where I can find ndiswrapper-utils in synaptic?
[10:44] <roxanne> I'm using xubuntu on my computer, and it is fast enough but does not have enough bells an whistles, anyone have suggestions for a distro?
[10:44] <Tic0> i already tried 2 wifi cards i own the Acx111 and the rt61. Both are detected neither seem to connect.
[10:44] <NickGarvey> darko: sudo passwd root didn't prompt you for anything?
[10:44] <ubuntu_> is it possible to convert a ntfs drive which has stuff on and still have it after its converted or does it delete it
[10:44] <darko> nothing
[10:44] <NickGarvey> roxanne: kubuntu?
[10:44] <JackRazz> which script do i need to run?
[10:44] <darko> NickGarvey, thats all
[10:45] <polpak> roxanne, or just ubuntu
[10:45] <NickGarvey> darko: odd.. I think this is out of my range, not sure why that happens
[10:45] <Stormx2> roxanne: You mean apps?
[10:45] <polpak> roxanne, what bells and whistles are you missing? you can just install them piecemeal
[10:45] <darko> NickGarvey, i cant install gcc or other stuff
[10:45] <Nick-Atis> JackRazz: if you're trying to add an input device, I think you just need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:45] <NickGarvey> !forums
[10:45] <Nick-Atis> and add an input device segment
[10:45] <roxanne> kubuntu? do i use the synaptic package manager to get that one?
[10:45] <NickGarvey> !forum
[10:45] <ubotu> from memory, forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:45] <Nick-Atis> you'll have to download the drivers
[10:45] <NickGarvey> I'd try there darko, I'm not sure
[10:45] <JackRazz> ok, I'll check that out Nick, thanks
[10:46] <Nick-Atis> and I'm not really sure how to all of that works
[10:46] <soundray> Tic0: is it a USB device? A PCI card? A PCMCIA card?
[10:46] <Stormx2> roxanne: Yes. "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:46] <Tic0> Pci
[10:46] <roxanne> Bells an whistles like no icons on my desktop
[10:46] <Stormx2> roxanne: Or indeed use Synaptic to install kubuntu-desktop
[10:46] <NickGarvey> !forums 5153
[10:46] <Tic0> the usb is a rt73 i think they call it
[10:46] <Nick-Atis> but search for xorg.conf and there is plenty of information on google to help you not destroy anything
[10:46] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 5153 is: jdodsons list of uber linux games! - Ubuntu Forums
[10:46] <skypa> is there a channel for a little more.. err.. let's say technically advanced ubuntu questions?
[10:46] <darko> ok thanks anyway
[10:46] <darko> bye
[10:46] <ubuntu_> is it possible to convert a ntfs drive which has stuff on and still have the stuff after its converted or does it delete it
[10:46] <Stormx2> roxanne: You can use the gnome desktop by running "nautilus"
[10:46] <NickGarvey> skypa: you might want ##linux
[10:46] <soundray> Tic0: right now you have the rt61 PCI card installed, correct?
[10:46] <Nick-Atis> just be ready to edit xorg.conf in vim from a shell if you make a mistake
[10:47] <roxanne> stormx2, what is nautilus?
[10:47] <clever> how would i mount a cd iso file and read it as if i burned it to disc?
[10:47] <JackRazz> googling tells me it should be xf86config
[10:47] <Stormx2> roxanne: The GNOME file manager, but it also handles desktop icons
[10:47] <Nick-Atis> and don't delete, comment anything you don't want in there
[10:47] <Tic0> sound: yes in a different pc
[10:47] <skypa> well.. let's have a try here anyways.. : I have a debootstrapped base system here.. how do I get the ubuntu default settings the installer would do?
[10:48] <skypa> *would do=would set
[10:48] <gabbah_ubuntu> kent, har du tid nn minut?
[10:48] <polpak> ubuntu_, you can't change the partition type without losing data from ntfs
[10:48] <sfar-ubu> hej timon
[10:48] <roxanne> stormx2, I'll tell you what i'm looking for exactly if you have a minute.
[10:49] <polpak> roxanne, is there a reason you went with xubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[10:49] <Stormx2> roxanne: i do...
[10:49] <Stormx2> roxanne: If you want GNOME or KDE... you can just install em, ya know ;-)
[10:50] <_michael_> sorry, i'm back... i have a command that that needs to use the file name twice, how can i make a script to go through every file and insert it into that command?
[10:50] <NickGarvey> !sed
[10:50] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[10:50] <NickGarvey> ..
[10:50] <IYY> I'm trying to remove the package 'phpmyadmin' using apt-get, and it fails, saying "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127". How do I get rid of it?
[10:51] <NickGarvey> !info sed
[10:51] <ubotu> sed: (The GNU sed stream editor), section base, is required. Version: 4.1.4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 235 kB, Installed size: 872 kB
[10:51] <soundray> Tic0: the way to do it is to run lspci and see if you have a line that corresponds to the card. There is lots of advice on the wiki as well.
[10:51] <Stormx2> NickGarvey: Ask in bash... they have a clever way
[10:51] <NickGarvey> what am I asking?
[10:51] <Stormx2> Sorry, I meant _michael_
[10:51] <NickGarvey> oh alrighty
[10:51] <Stormx2> _michael_: ask in #bash :P
[10:51] <roxanne> stormx2, I have an old computer, still in the GHZ range with 256MB ram. Ubuntu was really slow. I mean responsive 10 seconds after a mouse click. I got xubuntu and it has been good, but I can't figure how to use my digital camera or iPod. Oh yeah, I also have no burning capacity on my computer.
[10:51] <_michael_> ty\
[10:52] <roxanne> stormx2, If you have suggestions I would be appreciative?
[10:52] <Wolever> Would anyone know how to get the import command working on Ubuntu?  I'm trying to take a screenshot of the GDM login screen with very little success...\
[10:52] <NickGarvey> !ipod
[10:52] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[10:52] <mwe> Wolever: to make a screenshot of gdm you should probably run it in xnest
[10:52] <polpak> _michael_, something like command `ls` -option `ls` might work
[10:53] <Stormx2> roxanne: XFCE is just a Desktop Environment. You can still run any GNOME or KDE apps in it!
[10:53] <soundray> Wolever: there is a procedure if you log in on a text console.
[10:53] <Stormx2> roxanne: iPod you need gtkpod I beleive... not sure about digital cameras
[10:53] <_michael_> ok
[10:53] <Wolever> mwe: Ya, I'm doing that now.... But I wanted to figure out why `import` wasen't there =\
[10:53] <roxanne> okay, so what is my problem? what should I do? help!
[10:54] <polpak> roxanne, install gktpod
[10:54] <mwe> Wolever: because you need to install imagemagick I guess
[10:54] <me2win> roxanne, RUN!!!
[10:54] <Newbieee> helooo how can I see where I instaled Wireless tools???
[10:54] <NickGarvey> !wireless
[10:54] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:54] <polpak> roxanne,  you just have to find an app that does what you want, and install it
[10:54] <soundray> Wolever: you can do it without imagemagick
[10:54] <roxanne> me2win, I"M RUNNING!
[10:54] <polpak> roxanne, it doesn't matter if it's a gnome or kde app, it will still run
[10:54] <Rayman> roxanne: try searching for gtk based digital camera apps from Synaptic
[10:54] <me2win> roxanne, DONT LOOK BACK!
[10:54] <Rayman> there should be plenty
[10:54] <Wolever> Ah, ok, thanks
[10:56] <Rayman> roxanne: if you wan't to have a GUI AND keep the system responsive, try using as much GTK based apps as possible.
[10:56] <Rayman> that's from what I know, others may know better.
[10:56] <bur[n] er> gthumb == camera app
[10:56] <Newbieee> helooo how can I see where I instaled Wireless tools???
[10:56] <NickGarvey> Newbieee: see what I said
[10:57] <NickGarvey> and Newbieee if you used apt-get, just iwconfig
[10:57] <roxanne> I can run apps, but i need to keep it simple, I'm not a computer fluent person.
[10:57] <Newbieee> NickGarvey but I have already Installed with synaptic
[10:57] <Newbieee> I downloaded with synaptic...
[10:58] <Newbieee> I need to install
[10:58] <roxanne> will I have to run apps every boot?
[10:59] <roxanne> manually?
[10:59] <Newbieee> Could you please tell me?
[10:59] <W8TAH> I am still having trouble trying to get this thing built -- It is now kicking out an error saying cannot find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install
[10:59] <nook> I try to compile wine using apt-get --build source wine, but After I run it i get plenty of errors kind of"  Cannot change ownership to uid 1000, gid 1000: Operation not permitted". It happens although i'm using sudo. What should I do?
[10:59] <W8TAH> this is on the ./configure phase of gpredict .5
[10:59] <mooed> where it's located the config.gz file in a ubuntu liveCD?
[10:59] <VincentMX> darko, were you the one that posted me that link for that shellscripting page? i can't scroll up any further :S. anyways, it doesn't say anything about something that looks like GOTO and :SOMETHING
[10:59] <NickGarvey> Newbieee: eh sorry I need to go
[11:00] <NickGarvey> girlfriend called, I get to go on a walk
[11:00] <NickGarvey> adios
[11:00] <c0llin> hello, how do i install wine if im using amd64?
[11:00] <roxanne> polpak, I used xubuntu because someone on here said it was faster.
[11:00] <Newbieee> helooo how can I see where I instaled Wireless tools???with synaptic?
[11:01] <J100> Hello. I have a wireless connection, but I need to de- and reactivate it using network-admin to get it to work every session. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[11:01] <dejx> how do i remove EVERYTHING.... what's related to *mysql*
[11:02] <dejx> cuz i fucked some things up
[11:02] <Tic0> Does anyone use the TI acx111 or Ralink RT2600/RT2600 wifi pci cards?
[11:02] <harm__> wtf.. the standert ubuntu Totem player cant play avi files? how shit is that lol :P
[11:03] <tristanmike> !tell harm__ about language
[11:03] <c0llin> lol
[11:03] <gfxstyler> !tell harm__ about totem-xine
[11:03] <gfxstyler> !tell harm__ about xine
[11:03] <dejx> anyone?
[11:04] <harm__> i got told
[11:04] <rebelguys6> in what way dejx
[11:04] <tristanmike> harm__: no, asked politely :)
[11:04] <c0llin> i need wine for amd64...
[11:04] <dejx> rebelguys6, i messed something up
[11:04] <harm__> sorry tristanmike.. :) didnt mean to sound upset
[11:04] <dejx> so now i have to ...
[11:04] <harm__> just very amazed
[11:04] <nook> I can't change ownership of dir on mounted drive, even using sudo. how should I do it?
[11:04] <dejx> type password,
[11:04] <dejx> and etc etc etc etc..
[11:05] <dejx> and it doesnt work prob, i think:/
[11:05] <tristanmike> harm__: it's no worries, we all have a slip of the tounge from time to time :)
[11:05] <c0llin> how do i install an i386 package on an amd64??
[11:05] <imc_> I have to patch the kernel of my notebook to get high speed access through my verizon card. How can I back up my current configuration in case I need to restore? Currently running unpatched plain vanilla ubuntu breezy kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[11:06] <tamale> nook, is it a windows partition?
[11:06] <harm__> tristanmike i now see why its not supported..
[11:06] <nook> tamale: yep
[11:06] <DBO> O_o
[11:06] <Davey|Work> How do I force ubuntu to run dhclient as root upon startup?
[11:07] <Davey|Work> (no GUI)
[11:07] <tamale> nook:  I'm having the same problem..  I looked into it and it doesn't sound like there's anyway to change ownership
[11:07] <tamale> lemme see if i can find the page again that I found once before
[11:07] <rebelguys6> on what filesystem nook ?
[11:07] <nook> tamale: OMFG. I have downloaded over 1,5GB of sources and I can't even compile it ;[
[11:07] <imc_> I have to patch the kernel of my notebook to get high speed access through my verizon card. How can I back up my current configuration in case I need to restore? Currently running unpatched plain vanilla ubuntu breezy kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[11:07] <nook> rebelguys6: ubuntu, drive is on vfat
[11:07] <rebelguys6> oh
[11:08] <Nick-Atis> !zen
[11:08] <ubotu> Nick-Atis: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:08] <tamale> well, if it's a windows partition you can move it onto the linux from within windows
[11:08] <rebelguys6> nook, vfat doesn't support users or permissions
[11:08] <tamale> the windows ext driver works well
[11:08] <Profichilla> where do I change if local time or GMT will be written into the BIOS?
[11:08] <rebelguys6> yes it does
[11:08] <W8TAH> Hi folks brand new breezy install -- build essentials added -- i am trying to compile a program (gpredict) and the configure script keeps erroring out with cannot find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install.  Im not sure where to go from here - can someone point me in the right direction?
[11:09] <harm__> wget is always so awsome :P
[11:09] <nook> rebelguys6: so kind of moron adviced me to download sources and compile it on windows drive. Is there any way to sort that out? Make returns error with changin permision.
[11:09] <rebelguys6> you can copy it to a linux partition, then run make install
[11:09] <vh> samba
[11:10] <rebelguys6> nook, or just  the whole process again
[11:10] <tristanmike> W8TAH: sudo apt-get install gnome-libs-data ?
[11:10] <nook> rebelguys6: whole process? I don't have enough space on linux drive to move sources there and compile.
[11:10] <W8TAH> tristanmike, AHHH - ok -- i was searching for gnome-libs
[11:10] <W8TAH> thanks
[11:11] <imc_> No kernel patching help at all ... anyone?
[11:11] <tamale> nook:  I think this is what you need:
[11:11] <tamale> in your fstab file
[11:11] <W8TAH> tristanmike, gnome-libs-data is already installed
[11:11] <redguy> nook: why do you want to compile wine?
[11:11] <frederik> When you need a console window in Ubuntu, do you normally just use that Konsole program? Or is there a way to get a "real" console, assuming this "Konsole" is just a shell
[11:11] <Eleaf> hey!
[11:11] <imc_> frederik ctrl+alt+F1
[11:12] <nook> redguy: I don't ask why, but how. That's not the issue
[11:12] <frederik> imc_, weheeew, thanks
[11:12] <Eleaf> Is anybody familiar with snmp for network monitoring?
[11:12] <redguy> nook: yes that's correct. I am asking why
[11:12] <Eleaf> ;)
[11:12] <imc_> yeah, CTRL+ALT+F7 brings youback to gnome
[11:12] <W8TAH> nook -- it will be much easier for them to help you if you answer the question
[11:12] <rebelguys6> nook, well you may have to edit the Makefile
[11:13] <frederik> imc_, so I found out :) Was getting a little scared there
[11:13] <imc_> frederik, but the gnome terminal is pretty good bash terminal with all functionality of the ugly tty!
[11:13] <rebelguys6> nook,which could be nasty, but have it output everything into another directory
[11:13] <iocaste> can anyone tell me how I find out the IRQ of my sound card?
[11:13] <tristanmike> W8TAH: hmm, not sure, is it included with the package, like in a folder or something ?
[11:14] <rebelguys6> nook, or create a loopback file on the vfat drive with a filesystem inside :/
[11:14] <tamale> that sounds horrid
[11:15] <W8TAH> tristanmike, not that i can see
[11:15] <nook> ugh, I guess I'll format it and make another ext3 partition. fscking linux
[11:15] <redguy> nook: satisfy my curiosity: why do you want to compile wine?
[11:15] <iocaste> can anyone tell me how I find out the IRQ of my sound card please?
[11:16] <chuckyp> iocaste, try lspci
[11:16] <redguy> iocaste: cat /proc/interrupts
[11:16] <iocaste> thx
[11:16] <redguy> nook: please...
[11:17] <imc_> No takers on my kernel patching problem, eh?
[11:17] <iocaste> lots of devices seem to use IRQ 11.. is that normal?
[11:18] <redguy> imc_: hmm, what configuration do you want to backup?
[11:18] <grogoreo> hi
[11:18] <grogoreo> Some how, I've manged to switch my scrollbar to the left from right. How do I get it back?
[11:18] <grogoreo> on Firefox
[11:19] <imc_> Basically redguy I want to backup what I have now, in case the patch borks stuff. I suppose I need only dwnload a copy of the image since I'm running something unpatched now.
[11:19] <imc_> But I don't know that to be true
[11:19] <grogoreo> ok, it's sorted - but i still don't know how I got it back!
[11:20] <redguy> imc_: the kernel .config file? if you build your kernel properly you should get a .deb package. You can install it with dpkg -i and have both (the ubuntu stock kernel and you patched version) along each other. You would choose which kernel to run in GRUB menu at boot-time
[11:21] <redguy> nook: pretty please...
[11:21] <Tic0> Does anyone use the TI acx111 or Ralink RT2600/RT2600 wifi pci cards?
[11:21] <imc_> Aaahhh, thank you redguy. Lemme do some looking up
[11:22] <c0llin> do any wifi card have native linux support?
[11:22] <redguy> imc_: can't find any factoids concerning kernel building, but I am sure there's a howto on the ubuntu wiki
[11:23] <redguy> c0llin: yes, prism2 based cards for example
[11:23] <me2win> !kernel
[11:23] <redguy> me2win: tried that :-)
[11:23] <c0llin> redguy:link?
[11:23] <me2win> lol
[11:23] <redguy> c0llin: ?
[11:24] <c0llin> redguy: er prism2?
[11:25] <rebelguys6> imc_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[11:25] <EscapeForSurfing> ciao a tutti
[11:25] <redguy> c0llin: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html#whard
[11:25] <redguy> c0llin: http://wiki.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/Prism2Card
[11:26] <redguy> c0llin: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[11:26] <ernz> Hi all
[11:26] <redguy> c0llin: google is your friend
[11:26] <EscapeForSurfing> scusate, posso chiedere una cosa?
[11:26] <EscapeForSurfing> come vedo un film .iso?
[11:26] <Ernz> Ubuntu noobie here. I have checked the forums but have found nothing on this.
[11:26] <EscapeForSurfing> il volume l'ho gia' montato
[11:26] <me2win> EscapeForSurfing, puedes ver en VLC
[11:26] <EscapeForSurfing> hi ernz
[11:26] <c0llin> redguy: thanks
[11:26] <Ernz> How can I change my resolution to a resolution that isn't listed?
[11:27] <Ernz> Hi EscapeForSurfing.
[11:27] <me2win> Ernz, add it to the list
[11:27] <redguy> !es
[11:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:27] <EscapeForSurfing> hi ernz
[11:27] <EscapeForSurfing> thank me2win!
[11:27] <redguy> !tell Ernz about fixres
[11:27] <Ernz> Hi. How would I do that?
[11:27] <me2win> EscapeForSurfing, de nada
[11:27] <Ernz> 'FixRes' eh? That sounds promising.
[11:27] <me2win> heh
[11:28] <redguy> Ernz: see the link ubotu sent you
[11:28] <EscapeForSurfing> ahah
[11:28] <Ernz> Ahhh
[11:28] <Ernz> Thanks all. Ill have a read and get back cha'
[11:30] <Zanga> Newbieee , maestre
[11:31] <andriijas> whats the difference between these:
[11:31] <J100> Does anyone know why I need to reactivate my wireless connection using network-admin every session?
[11:31] <andriijas> (23:26) ( andriijas) echo blaha > /dev/null
[11:31] <andriijas> (23:26) ( andriijas) echo blaha >> /dev/null
[11:31] <andriijas> (23:26) ( andriijas) echo blaha > /dev/null 2>&1
[11:31] <andriijas> 
[11:32] <tristanmike> !paste
[11:32] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:32] <frederik> How do I force close the root-like access I get from e.g. "sudo su root"? It seems to stay open for a while, I can exit and reenter w/o typing the password again
[11:32] <c0llin> redguy: if someone says a wifi card works with knoppix then it should work with ubuntu right?
[11:32] <redguy> c0llin: right
[11:32] <andriijas> tristanmike: is that what you call a large amount of text? 3 lines is accepted in most channels
[11:33] <gilianima> why there's no iproute2 on ubuntu ?
[11:33] <c0llin> redguy: ever goten a broadcom card to work?
[11:33] <tristanmike> andriijas: this isn't most channels ;)
[11:33] <redguy> c0llin: nope
[11:33] <sfar-ubu> frederik, use "sudo -i" instead
[11:33] <tristanmike> andriijas: it's generally accepted in here to not paste anything, and to use either #flood or pastebin
[11:33] <ploom> andriijas, first directs (writes) stdout to the location pointed; second one directs by appending; and third one directs stdout to dev null and then stderr into stdout...
[11:33] <redguy> hah, andriijas left
[11:34] <c0llin> redguy: prism2 will do 108mbps?
[11:34] <ploom> damn.'
[11:34] <redguy> that was rude
[11:34] <ploom> goodnight to you :-)
[11:34] <redguy> c0llin: no idea
[11:34] <J100> No one can help me?
[11:34] <redguy> I mean, asking a question and leaving almost immediately was rude
[11:34] <frederik> sfar-ubu, thx, I'll do that. And I admit it's about time I start using the man rtfm too ^^
[11:35] <harm__> j100 whats ur qeustion?
[11:35] <redguy> J100: what was your problem again?
[11:35] <J100> I need to reactivate my wireless every session.
[11:35] <sfar-ubu> frederik,  :D
[11:35] <mwe> J100: it's not supposed to be necesary
[11:36] <frederik> sfar-ubu, I'm exploiting the fact ppl in here are so nice and helpful. I save 30 mins each time I just ask a question here instead of exploring the google-jungle ;)
[11:36] <J100> In case it's helpful, the wireless has been appointed to eth0, which strikes me as odd.
[11:36] <mwe> J100: that's normal
[11:37] <imc_> Hey redguy I hope you don';t mind but I would like to understand what I need to do here. I need to apply a patch to my kernel. I had thought it was as simple as downloading the patch and then running -p0 < patch-file-name - is this not the case?
[11:37] <mwe> J100: that's the name some drivers use even for wifi
[11:37] <BlueHeron> eth0 is standard ethernet connection
[11:37] <sfar-ubu> frederik, i do that too sometimes.. but mostly i try to google first.. but your perticular question was not that "google-friendy" so asking in here was much smarter :)
[11:37] <imc_> Needless to say I've not this before (though I did install gentoo that was entirely ground-up so a different beast!)
[11:37] <mirak> is there some command line tool to convert a text file to utf8 ?
[11:38] <mwe> mirak: yudit comes with uniconv
[11:38] <J100> What does network-admin do that isn't being done by /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:38] <BlueHeron> J100, nothing i dont think
[11:38] <VincentMX> hi
[11:38] <ernz> Hi again people!
[11:39] <mwe> J100: afaik network-manager just manages the interfaces file
[11:39] <imc_> hi ernz
[11:39] <dumb_> hi guy, where can i found some doc to understand rc.d meaning in ubuntu system?
[11:39] <ernz> Thanks for your help, it turns out I was doing it right before, I was just being stupid and not reading the plain instructions.
[11:40] <Rdde> Heavy question this: if I use the rsync to backup files and a disk fails... it will proably show under backup when all the files are accessed.. if i have the --delete flag dose it overwrite files or dose it delete the hole backup and then do a new one? =) becoause if it delets all files and come across an error halfway a lot of files will be lost! anyone have an ide?
[11:40] <mwe> dumb_: sysv init is your keyword
[11:40] <dumb_> mwe, thank you a lot
[11:41] <J100> So, no suggestions that might help me?
[11:41] <ernz> Is there anywhere I can get additional skins/themes for Ubuntu?
[11:41] <tristanmike> ernz: gnome-look.org
[11:41] <dekela> Hey People
[11:41] <dekela> Anyone has Azureus on dapper drake?
[11:41] <ernz> I tried that site earlier Tristanmike, it was down...?
[11:41] <mwe> J100: maybe if you paste relevant info from /var/log/sylog and /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin.com as well as lspci -v and lsmod maybe
[11:42] <tristanmike> ernz: back up now ;)
[11:42] <ernz> Oh, wait. Not now. Thanks Tristanmike!
[11:42] <mwe> J100: paste it on pastebin.com
[11:42] <J100> I don't have a /var/log/sylog
[11:42] <J100> I have a /var/log/syslog
[11:42] <mwe> J100: then your system is broken
[11:42] <ernz> I have been using Ubuntu for 46 hours straight now. FANTASTIC!
[11:42] <Nadrea> Hello,  I've had a problem with my matrix printer, when the buffer is full it start printing strange char, any idea?
[11:43] <mwe> J100: yeah that's it. typo, sorry
[11:43] <Misnix>  /var/log/syslog is fine
[11:43] <bryan> algien podria decirme en que direccion encuentro  como configurar los repositorios de ubuntu??
[11:43] <Zanga> Nadrea , instaleaza win xp
[11:43] <J100> What should I look for in /var/log/syslog?
[11:43] <ernz> May I PM you Tristanmike, I have a couple of questions...?
[11:43] <bongy> mwe, i have a specific proble.m..i've installed avahi ubuntu deb package but i don't want to start at boot time...i'm in the second runlevel but /etc/rc2.d doesn't contain any avahi script and i don't know how to keep away from scripts that runs at boot time
[11:44] <mwe> J100: info about your interface
[11:44] <mwe> J100: time stamps should help you locate the relevant parts
[11:44] <bryan> portal latino  porfavor
[11:44] <VincentMX> i'm converting a windows batch file to a linux shellscript, but when i type ./vlanmsg.bat it says "bad interpreter, /etc/alternatives/csh^M, no such file or directory." so i romove that line, but then it says "start:^M Command not found"  but when i edit it in vim i don't see no ^M nowhere
[11:44] <bryan> hay alguno??
[11:44] <Nadrea> Zanga ^
[11:44] <mwe> VincentMX: that wont work
[11:44] <Nadrea> ?
[11:45] <VincentMX> mwe why not?
[11:45] <BlueHeron> VincentMX, doesnt work like that
[11:45] <mwe> VincentMX: windows batch files are very different from bash scripts
[11:45] <rambo3> ^M = enter key in wordpad
[11:45] <Zanga> Nadrea , ca sa iti mearga printeru instaleaza win xp :))
[11:45] <Misnix> !es
[11:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:45] <mwe> VincentMX: they don't work in linux
[11:45] <VincentMX> mwe, yes that's why i'm trying to change it
[11:45] <Nadrea> ubunto-ro I suppose
[11:45] <VincentMX> but how do i remove the ^M?
[11:45] <mwe> VincentMX: you need to revrite it completely
[11:45] <rebelguys6> no
[11:46] <rebelguys6> man dos2unix
[11:46] <rebelguys6> oh
[11:46] <rebelguys6> or get dos2unix
[11:46] <bryan> algiuen habla  espaol??
[11:46] <mwe> VincentMX: about nothing from the batch file will work in linux. you might as well write a new script from scratch
[11:46] <Misnix> bryan:
[11:47] <redguy> !es
[11:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:47] <Misnix> !es
[11:47] <VincentMX> mwe, ok
[11:47] <Nadrea> Hello,  I've had a problem with my matrix printer on parallel, when the buffer is full it start printing strange char, any idea?
[11:47] <VincentMX> sorry
[11:47] <BlueHeron> Nadrea, buffer?
[11:47] <mwe> VincentMX: don't worry. you can't know what you don't know
[11:47] <Tic0> Does anyone use the TI acx111 or Ralink RT2600/RT2600 wifi pci cards?
[11:47] <VincentMX> ok
[11:47] <rambo3> rt61
[11:47] <krakon> hi there. don't you know any channel where i can get help in spanish?
[11:47] <BlueHeron> !es
[11:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:47] <Tic0> rambo3 you use it?
[11:48] <ernz> Anyone able to explain to a toto noob how things are installed on Ubuntu. So far I have heard of "Tarball" and "Debian packages"...But everytime I DL something it just gives me a compressed file with loads of DIRs and files in.
[11:48] <Nadrea> BlueHeron, yes, I mean, when I try to print something it seems is charging but it start print these strange char.
[11:48] <rambo3> yeas rt61
[11:48] <VincentMX> hey
[11:48] <BlueHeron> Nadrea, hmm dunno.
[11:48] <DBO> ernz, its easier than that for most everyone you want
[11:48] <VincentMX> isn't there also a xubuntu-us?
[11:48] <VincentMX> for xfce desktop?
[11:48] <redguy> !tell ernz about synaptic
[11:48] <redguy> !tell ernz about repos
[11:48] <redguy> !tell ernz about apt
[11:48] <ernz> OOH! I hears about that one too.
[11:48] <ernz> lol
[11:48] <rambo3> Tic0, rt drivers are well documented
[11:48] <redguy> ernz: read the links ubotu sent you
[11:49] <ernz> ta
[11:49] <mwe> VincentMX: the name is xubuntu-destop IIRC
[11:49] <VincentMX> mwe ok
[11:50] <sfar-ubu> how to extract a .tar.bz2 into a specific folder?
[11:50] <rambo3> ask ubotu
[11:50] <BlueHeron> tar xfvz
[11:50] <VincentMX> mwe, i think i'm going to write the base program first, then i'll add the other funtions
[11:51] <ernz> I see - So what if I downloaded a theme for example from Gnome-look.org
[11:51] <ernz> That is a tar.gz
[11:51] <tristanmike> tar xvjf file.tar.bz2
[11:51] <ernz> (Tarball?)
[11:51] <BlueHeron> ahh xvjf.
[11:51] <BlueHeron> sorry
[11:52] <sfar-ubu> bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[11:52] <rambo3> !tell sfar-ubu about tar
[11:53] <BlueHeron> sfar-ubu, tar xvjf name.tar.bz2
[11:53] <sfar-ubu> ive tried that BlueHeron
[11:53] <rem> Hey does anyone know what a NSS user is ??
[11:54] <rem> NSS User Private Key and Certificate Services
[11:54] <sfar-ubu> tar xvjf name.tar.bz2 /home/username/destinationfolder/
[11:54] <rem> evolution asks me to enter the password for that whenever i want to enter my certificate ..
[11:54] <dj-fu> rem you're entering your certificate incorrectly
[11:55] <ernz> OHH MAN! That is sweeet. I get it now.
[11:55] <rambo3> tar -xjf flie.tar.bz2 && man tar
[11:55] <fiendskull9> !psp
[11:55] <ubotu> fiendskull9: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:56] <rem> How do you enter it in evolution then .. ? i always wiw it thw same way never had a prob...and read the help too ...
[11:56] <mwe> sfar-ubu: I don't think that will work. I think you need -C destination
[11:56] <tristanmike> ernz: if you download a tar from gnome-look, the themes manager should be able to install from that, no unpacking necissary
[11:56] <redguy> rambo3: hmm that might be a good way to make people read the manuals
[11:56] <ernz> It did indeed tristanmike ;)
[11:56] <dj-fu> rem, edit > preferences > edit mail account > security > enter your PGP key ID
[11:56] <sfar-ubu> -C after file.tar.bz2?
[11:56] <ernz> Thanks
[11:56] <rebelguys6> haha rambo3
[11:56] <mwe> sfar-ubu: before the destination
[11:56] <sfar-ubu> will try that :)
[11:56] <rem> thats ok,...its for the Thawte id ..
[11:57] <ernz> ...Still not entirely sure what tar's are all about, but hey, seems like I don't need to know.
[11:57] <rem> just a bit lower ..
[11:57] <rebelguys6> its like zip but so much cooler
[11:57] <sfar-ubu> btw, the destinationfolder is hidden (with a dot), will that make any difference?
[11:57] <mwe> sfar-ubu: no
[11:57] <sfar-ubu> its says "bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file."
[11:57] <rem> ice been trying to do this and wearxh thge internet for about 1 month ...
[11:57] <rem> start to think about using another email client ..
[11:57] <rem> :(
[11:58] <mwe> sfar-ubu: linux doesn't really have hidden files. dot files or just not listed by default with ls
[11:58] <tristanmike> ernz: tar is kinda like zip(windows), and gz and bz2 are also like zips, so in essence, it's a zip in a zip
[11:58] <dj-fu> rem, Thawte?
[11:58] <mwe> sfar-ubu: they are in fact identical to non dot files
[11:58] <dj-fu> rem all you have to do is add it in where I said, just manually type in your KEY ID. I've tested it
[11:58] <redguy> ernz: tar is an archiver, puts multiple files and directories in a single file, but doesn't compress by default. The -j switch compresses with bzip2 and produces a .tar.bz2, the -z switch compresses with gzip and creates a .tar.gz
[11:58] <sfar-ubu> mwe, ah :)
[11:58] <kRaKoN> what is "universe repository" ?
[11:59] <rem> i found one guy sith the same prob: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2005-September/msg00271.html
[11:59] <rem> ..but never an asnwer .. :(
[11:59] <redguy> !tell kRaKoN about universe
[11:59] <rem> it works for gpg...but I need the thawte id to work too ...
[11:59] <sfar-ubu> but why does it say "is not a bzip2 file.".. is it a faulty file ending on that file?
[11:59] <ernz> Riiight, I see. So there is now "executable" to do the installing for you?
[11:59] <kRaKoN> thanks redguy
[11:59] <rhythminmind> ok i could use some help..
[11:59] <rebelguys6> sfar-ubu, it could be corrupt
[12:00] <patrick52222> where do i get new themes for gnome
[12:00] <dj-fu> rem, I don't know what thawte ID is?