=== flint [n=flint@montpeliervt-cuda1-24-50-146-184.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.101.223] has joined #edubuntu === bob_ [n=bob@host-87-75-129-152.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:32] anyone got any idea why gnome wont load on the server computer? all the clients work fine... [12:35] what did u try to start it up? === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [12:47] just startx [12:48] the server stopped booting into gnome a while ago anyway, its a bit odd [12:48] it always usde to work... === juan [n=juan@201.240.58.216] has joined #edubuntu === juan [n=juan@201.240.58.216] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] [12:49] bob_: what error u get [12:51] nothing, it just freezes with a flashing cursor in the topleft [12:51] hmm [12:52] im not sure why it doesnt boot into GDM any more either [12:52] try restarting gdm, wat happens then [12:52] it wont load gdm i mean [12:52] it doesnt get that far [12:52] check /var/log/Xlo-- [12:53] the latest one? [12:53] hmm probaly Xlog0.log [12:53] k [12:54] am i looking for anything in particular? [12:54] looks alright really... [12:54] no obvious errors [12:54] hmm [12:58] im not sure where the probem could occure [12:58] it is pretty odd... [12:58] try this for testing X: [12:59] type 'X :1.0' or just 'X', kill the X with crtl-alt-backspace, so u can test the basic X, without any other software running on it [01:01] any luck? [01:01] fatal server error: unrecognised option 1:0 [01:01] oh i missed a colon, sorry [01:01] did't u forget the : X :1.0 :) [01:02] also try 'X' [01:02] nope, same proble with both [01:02] just a black screen with a cursor [01:03] thats weird [01:03] yeah youd think itd whine about something... [01:03] nah, probaly not [01:03] ok :p it normally quits with some weird error code [01:04] there is never a weird error code [01:04] ! [01:05] i mean it sometimes says "such and such is not supported?" or something [01:05] :) its ok [01:06] whats ur graphic card [01:06] not sure [01:06] ang on [01:07] ati 3d rage 2+ [01:07] i mean its worked before... [01:07] some random dapper update i think messed it up [01:07] did u upgrade to another kernel? [01:07] possibly, yeah [01:07] with nvidia for example u need to configure ur graphic driver for that kernel [01:08] change ur xorg.conf file [01:08] or reboot with the old kernel, if u still got it [01:09] how do i do either of those things? [01:10] how did u setup ur ati drivers before? [01:11] hmm i dont think i did. i mean it was just a disk install i might have dpkg-reconfigured xserver-xorg at some point but [01:11] its probabyl a kernel thing [01:13] u could reconfi ut xserver-xorg package again, but probaly u will have bad graphics, but for server its ok i guess [01:14] i did it earlier [01:14] doesnt wrk [01:14] :( [01:15] it should [01:15] ypu just does the same thing === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:16] vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf under "device" check the "Driver" string, change it to something like this "Driver" "vesa" [01:16] is the monitor changed btw? could be a problem too [01:17] but i have to go, good luck [01:17] nope [01:17] ok, thanks :) [01:17] have a good day [01:21] bob_: if the vesa driver doesn't work, try deleting ~/.Xauthority and ~/.ICEauthority (issues with those files can hause X hangs) [01:28] *cause === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has left #edubuntu ["cat] === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:24] hey bimberi, doesnt work :( [02:25] what is vesa? i put it back to ATI [02:26] argh, ive been on the internet too long, my brain is leaking, try again tomorrow... [02:26] good luck bob_ === thedarkener [n=thedarke@adsl-69-109-210-153.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:30] Hey all [02:30] hello [02:31] What do you guys think about hosting a 10-client LAN with Edubuntu on a dual PIII 500MHz (1GHz total), 2GB RAM? Will it be comfortable? [02:31] Regular IDE hard disk [02:31] 1GB LAN for server, 100MBit on workstations [02:33] i didnt try edubuntu for network config, but i think it should be no problem, looks all fine [02:33] awesome [02:33] =) [02:33] I will, hopefully by next weekend, start working on my first edubuntu thin client site =) [02:34] just make sure for ur processor u use the correct kernel [02:34] that'll be on the cd boot commandline to choose the kernel? [02:34] nice, im just trying the stuff out. maybe a school project orso, [02:34] nah, just pick one after the install, then when its real important [02:34] om out, good luck [02:35] ok thanks Sergi0 [02:35] ok [02:35] Anyone else? How does this hardware look for all 10 clients logged in with Firefox, OO? === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-220-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.166.11] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.166.11] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:21] HedgeMage are you in by chance? I am having some problems and as a last resort came in to ask for help after like 3 hours. :( [08:22] I just got a new motherboard so I thought a reinstall would be best.... [08:22] I installed and some packages couldn't be loaded during install for some odd reason... [08:22] luckily though I do have gnome and a GUI [08:23] however Python libraries are messed up [08:23] Synaptic will not work [08:23] niether will the Gnome file browser so I can't easily navigate to find files [08:23] I had a warning about E:/ being broken [08:24] iGotNoTime: I am now [08:24] but the dpkg --confgure blah blah wouldn't work [08:24] what's up? === HedgeMage reads the backlog [08:24] no problem getting a drink while you ponder :) [08:24] hmm that is really odd [08:25] the worst thing is the synaptic [08:25] I had to connect to IRC with Gaim because I can't even install an IRC client [08:26] I don't even have an FTP client to upload you the copied lines of errors LOL [08:26] :( [08:26] major thing though seems to say broken packages [08:26] I can't find any sort of auto update option [08:26] nothing borked until the hardware change? [08:27] yes but was a big hardware change, so I formatted and started fresh [08:27] I am happy that the GUI is on or I would really be stuck === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu [08:28] E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [08:28] that is a very popular one with me today [08:29] but when I try to do that I get this: [08:29] dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed. [08:29] Aborted [08:29] I assume if that dpkg --configure would work everything would be fixed on it's own [08:29] but can't do it due to the above error === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu [08:34] any ideas? anyone? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [08:47] I'll just try getting help later on tonight :) [08:47] I am gonna reboot === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === coolio_za [n=hilton@196.44.1.98] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-178-247.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === coolio_za [n=hilton@196.44.1.98] has left #edubuntu [] === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu [10:23] spacey: ping [10:23] oops he's not even here, nm === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-207-189.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === trondm_gone is now known as trondm === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [11:53] ogra: i love the new edubuntu splash screen! [11:54] thanks, i personally find it a bit dark ... [11:54] note that we might get a different one from the art studio ... might not be final [11:58] well, it splashed by very quickly, so i didn't notice it being to dark. === bimberi [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-209-160.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === herman_ [n=herman@ipd50a233d.speed.planet.nl] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: March 15 at 12:00 UTC | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | Flight 5 is out, grab it while its hot http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/ === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Wed Mar 15 13:01:22 2006 === axl000 [n=axl@217-89-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Ibalon [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [05:35] in case anyone is intrested in testing, the next CD build should be ready for flight 6 testing ... === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === Ibalon is now known as zakame === axl000 [n=axl@217-89-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has left #edubuntu [] === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-247-86.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === hannes_ [i=hannes@dna254-92.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #edubuntu === bob_ [n=bob@host-87-75-129-152.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:17] hey, my edubuntu server is playing up, X wont load. how can i backtrack a kernel? [07:18] bob_: do you have any reason to believe that it's a kernel problem? [07:18] hmm well im sure it stopped working after a dist-upgrade [07:19] if you log in from a console, and type 'startx', what error message do you get? [07:19] you dont get an error [07:19] it just hangs with a black screen and a cursor in the top left [07:19] it's possible that the dist-upgrade didn't complete [07:19] yeah? ooh [07:19] hmmm :/ [07:19] the clients work fine, its weird... [07:19] i haven't seen that before [07:20] the clients have their own chroot [07:20] oh yeah [07:20] any ideas then? how can i fix a broken dist-upgrade? [07:20] log in on one of the thin clients, it at least gives you access to your system [07:20] log in as your admin user from one of the clients, [07:20] and try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again [07:20] yeah theres people on them :) but ill try and kick someone off [07:21] see what it says [07:21] heh :) [07:21] ill just do it form a terminal? [07:22] it wants to install 'libbeagle1' and upgrade nautlus [07:22] shall i do it? [07:23] i suggest you try that [07:24] hmm, what has libbeagle to do there ? [07:24] seems to have run ok, no errors or anything [07:24] i dont know, what is it? [07:25] its a library for beagle ... [07:25] (beagle is a desktop search engine) [07:25] oh hang on, ive got one x error: "Key added to map for multiple modifiers. Using Mod4 ignoring Mod 1" [07:25] ahh ok [07:25] ogra: wow, i would've never guesed :P [07:25] heh [07:25] maybe someone else put it on? [07:25] i just tried apt-cache show libbeagle, doesn't find such a package on my system. [07:25] its a universe package [07:26] apt-cache show libbeagle0 [07:26] ;) [07:26] W: Unable to locate package libbeagle0 [07:27] ogra@edubuntu:/mnt/devel/packages/ttf-ubuntu-title-0.1$ apt-cache show libbeagle0 [07:27] Package: libbeagle0 [07:27] Priority: optional [07:27] Section: universe/gnome [07:27] ... [07:27] oh, hold on, that's strange, my universe is disabled in sources.list. === highvoltage wonders how that happened [07:27] shall i take it off? [07:27] bob_, is that breezy or dapper [07:27] ? [07:27] dapper [07:27] ah, k [07:27] sorry should have been more specific [07:27] you have to live with breakage from time to time then :) especially with universe packages [07:28] time will fix it :) [07:28] do you think its that thats breaking it then? [07:28] err ... [07:28] moment [07:28] haha dont worry i have faith in that :p id just be nice to know whats wrong so i can report it or something... [07:28] it wants to install libbeagle*1* ??? [07:28] incidentally, it stopped logging into GDM by defualt a little while ago [07:28] sure that wasnt libbeagle0 ? [07:29] if thats related... [07:29] libbeagle0 is there [07:29] it wants to install 'libbeagle1' and upgrade nautlus [07:29] are you sure about the name ? [07:29] then its something from a third party repository ... [07:30] and nothing we can help with ... [07:30] ummm [07:30] doh ive done it in a terminal so i cant double check, it was probably right... [07:31] i mean, do you think its that thats breaking it? i dont see how its related to X not working... [07:31] dpkg -l |grep libbeagle [07:31] bob_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list [07:31] bob_: check for something that doesn't contain 'ubuntu.com' in the URI [07:31] or what ogra said :) [07:31] bob_, if you have a broken package that holds back other essential packages from being upgraded, that not unusual [07:32] *thats [07:32] ok only libbeagle0 is there [07:32] good [07:32] so did you do apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade ? [07:32] both [07:33] why both ? [07:33] highvoltage, theres a few in there, shall i comment them all out? i think its been automatix-ed [07:33] well i dist-upgraded to see if it would fix the x problem, highvoltage suggested it :p [07:33] dist-upgrade already does what upgrade does, but does the evil stuff as well ... [07:33] oh i mean [07:33] ive not done it right now, but ive run it today, like [07:33] upgrade == only install upgradeable packages, dont change anything else ... === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [07:34] dist-upgrade == remove packages if needed, chane essential bits etc [07:34] *change [07:34] yeah i gettit :) i just mean ive run them both today === Rondom [n=Rondom@87.193.51.86] has joined #edubuntu [07:35] ok, if you run startx from a console, does gnome start ? [07:35] nope [07:35] whats the error then ? [07:35] just get a black screen with a frozen cursor [07:35] startx should give very precise errors [07:35] as in, text cursor not X cursor [07:35] it doesnt tell you anything apart from... [07:35] either on the commandline or in the logfiles [07:36] "key added to map for multiple modifiers [07:36] using mod 4, inoring mod 1" [07:36] thats the only error, and X doesnt quit out or anything, it just hangs [07:36] ogra: do you know much about squeak? [07:36] thats niot your issue [07:37] LaserJock, only that i missed to package the squeak-image package for us [07:37] bob_: you've used automatix? [07:37] ogra: ah ok, I was talking quite a bit with some squeak developers about the image issue [07:37] when we were on breezy, yeah [07:37] (but adding the initimage.sh script to squeak-sources should solve it as well) [07:38] bob_, ouch [07:38] have fun reinstalling then === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:38] bit of a mess? [07:38] hahaha [07:38] ive got a number of niggles, maybe a reinstall would sort them... [07:38] automatix f****up isnt easily solvable [07:39] bob_: automatix alters your ubuntu system, it's not a standard ubuntu system any more, so upgrades isn't expected to work [07:39] use easyubuntu instead ... it wont break the system [07:39] ahhhh ok [07:39] ill bear it in mind. probably a good idea to avoid universe in general when using beta software, hey? [07:39] universe is fine ... [07:39] just expect breakage from time to time [07:39] hmm ok. [07:40] but you reckon the X problem is coz of automatix? [07:40] usually universe packages dont have any influence on the system stability itself ... [07:40] bob_: main will, at some time, also give some breakage on development versions... [07:40] might be ... i refuse to put time into automatix broken systems [07:40] yeah thats cool, i wouldnt mention this if it hadnt been like it for a week or so [07:40] fair enough :) [07:40] bob_: but both main and universe are always much safer to use than automatix. automatix is strongly non-recommended. [07:41] this guy caused enough trouble ... i wont put time into his crappy scripts [07:41] ok, cool. but easyubuntu gets the thumbs up? [07:41] yep [07:41] ace [07:41] its developed in a safe manner using the right tools ... [07:41] looks like its time to sort out that home drive and reinstall the system... [07:41] automatix just blindly overwrites half of the worls [07:41] *world [07:42] ogra: were you going to work on squeak-image? I think I could make a source package soon if you like. [07:42] shall i use a flight 5 iso? [07:42] LaserJock, that'd be so cool ! [07:43] i'm preparing flight 6 and am particulary busy this week [07:43] ogra: k [07:43] is flight 5 the reccomended atm? [07:43] well, I went over to #squeak and found out what I needed and there are some source packages floating out there that I can look at. [07:44] bob_: i played around with flight5 quite a bit, worked fine fore me. ymmv. [07:44] bob_, yesd [07:45] but flight 6 is due this week :) [07:45] cool :) [07:45] dapper is lovely btw, evreything is working fineeee and lovely (apart from recentness) [07:46] bob_: that doesn't count, it's automatix's fault :) [07:46] ogra: you should blog something along the lines of 'top 5 reasons why you shouldn't use automatix' :) [07:47] ill let you know if thats what it was when i get this harddrive sorted ;) [07:48] highvoltage, ask Seveas to do that :) [07:48] ogra: k :) [07:48] ogra, I don't blog in english [07:48] Seveas: ^^^^^ [07:48] i have my private argument going on with arnieboy on the ubuntu-users ML already [07:48] so I'm not on planet Ubuntu [07:48] and i dont want to extend it [07:49] Seveas, so start blogging in english then :) === ogra *always* blogs in english ... [07:49] tectonic, slashdot, and many other sites promote how wonderful automatix is, it's an epidemic [07:49] at least the five entrys i made in my blg ;) [07:49] highvoltage, it's a virus [07:49] *blog [07:49] every single day i meet someone who used it and it breaked their system [07:50] and there seems to be no ubuntu doc i can point them to too tell them it's bad [07:50] Seveas: hehe, yeah. [07:50] Seveas, note that i'll fight for closing down the forums gateway again ... [07:50] we dont even have a chance to unsubscribe arnieboy at the moment [07:50] yes, please [07:51] the forums are full of crap [07:51] forums are breeding grounds for trouble in general, which is why i'm so strongly apposed against a forum for edubuntu [07:51] forums are fine as long as someone knowledgeable cares for them [07:51] ogra, that's the problem with ubuntuforums.org - clueless people are leading it [07:52] as soon as myths out of missing knowledge start to spread, you are lost [07:52] IRC generally is a similar trouble hole [07:52] the thing is, knowledgable people don't use forums, so it tends to be just clueless (maybe a strong word) people who tend to reply [07:53] but #ubuntu is refreshingly different because there are knowledgeable people who feel at home there (not meaning myself) [07:53] I started out on the forums because I was a Gentoo user and I was used to the Gentoo forums [07:54] but I got much less "real" help on ubuntuforums [07:54] and there was so much flaming and fighting [07:54] so I turned to #ubuntu-motu [07:54] and I'm glad I did [07:54] we too :) [07:56] thanks ;-) === zbyte64 [n=hi@cpe-66-75-238-203.san.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === vandenoever [n=oever@p5497B22B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [08:23] hello, i am here to promote http://www.vandenoever.info/software/cubetest/ [08:23] for edubuntu [08:23] it's a great awardwinning game which teaches spatial insight [08:24] vandenoever, is there a gtk version available ? [08:24] it's qt3 or qt4 [08:24] hmm [08:24] i'm planning to get rid of KDE and friends in the next release if possible [08:24] it steals to much CD space [08:25] ogra: qt3 != kde [08:25] qt3 < kde [08:27] yep [08:27] i know and i guess QT will stay, but i'm not sure yet ... [08:27] cubetest is not big so it'll fit easily [08:27] could you send your proposal to the mailing list to make more people aware of it [08:28] it's also mature [08:28] ok what's the address for that? [08:28] its planned to revisit the app selection for the october release, so there are good chances for little helpful apps ;) [08:28] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel [08:29] thanks! [08:31] :) [08:32] thanks as well :) [08:48] ogra: I'm trying to figure out what to name this squeak-image package [08:48] ogra: the images of any version can be more or less used with any vm [08:49] ogra: so we could have squeak-image3.7 squeak-image3.8 ,etc. [08:49] do you really want different versions ? [08:50] i'd think we only want the basics and leave it to the user/admin to customize it [08:50] hmm, let me ask #squeak real quick if there is usefullness in having old images [08:51] since we wont pre-customize the image anyway ... [08:51] what I'm saying is you can use the image from almost any version with the vm from almost any version [08:52] yep [08:52] so should we provide more than one squeak-image package? [08:52] will put more maintenance work on our sholders ... [08:52] i'd go with the latest that works [08:52] yeah [08:53] ogra: k [08:53] goodnight, #edubuntu! [08:57] ogra, did yo get my mail regarding \sh? [08:57] Seveas, yep ... its on TODAYS TODO :) [08:58] ok [08:58] (so i still have 3h :) ) [08:58] hi ogra :) [08:58] jonathan gone? [08:59] yep [08:59] awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww [08:59] he gone early [08:59] today [08:59] goodnight, #edubuntu! [08:59] * highvoltage has quit ("leaving") [08:59] aww , bad news [08:59] that was 10 min ago [08:59] lol [08:59] too late [09:00] yep [09:00] okie but what time is it in south africa? [09:01] he said goodnight [09:01] so there might be midnight or something like that [09:05] its 9pm [09:07] o [09:07] its early [09:07] maybe hes going out with his girlfrend ehehhe [09:09] heh [09:10] :) [09:17] Bluekuja, hiya === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084D2D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === jelkner [n=jelkner@dsl092-145-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:29] anyone here who could answer an edubuntu support question? [09:29] the client machine fails to boot [09:30] /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off [09:30] is the last line [09:30] mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory [09:30] seems to be the start of the trouble === bimberi [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [09:35] ok, running ltsp-update-sshkeys seemed to fix the problem. [09:36] i wish i understood this better [09:36] hopefully the new author of the edubuntu cookbook will be able to explain things like this [09:36] and perhaps it is fixed in dapper? [09:37] it seems to happen once every few weeks at the library lab [09:42] well, i gotta run... [09:42] see you at the meeting tomorrow morning... [09:49] hmm, not that he'd sound bitter ... === neurogeek is now known as neurogeek|away === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_away === neurogeek|away is now known as neurogeek === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-234-136.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === lns [n=lns@adsl-69-109-210-153.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:33] Hey all [10:34] Does Edubuntu, by default, use SSH as a tunnel for encrypting terminal sessions? [10:34] lns, yes [10:35] hey Burgwork :) [10:35] Burgwork, thanks! Now what is the correct way of disabling this if I'm using a local LAN and don't need it? [10:36] lns, you mean you dont need the ltsp functionallity at all ? [10:36] ogra, no, I don't want ssh tunneling [10:36] salut ogra [10:36] lns, thats a bit tricky cause our ltsp is totally targeted to that architecture ... [10:37] we dont use xdmcp at all [10:37]