[01:31] <dholbach> heya
[07:00] <lapo> nomed: any new on the xubuntu front?
[07:00] <lapo> I'm thinking about the logo, are you really sure you'll want the one you showed me?
[07:00] <nomed> lapo, not yet ..
[07:01] <nomed> lapo, i can't make decisions .. alone
[07:01] <nomed> let's say we can vote ..
[07:01] <nomed> if you're inspired and you came up with something amzaing and cool ..
[07:02] <nomed> then i'm not really sure i'll want that one .. and probably even all the others xubuntu people :)
[07:02] <nomed> lapo, but the idea is to keep that logo .. and to change just the colors 
[07:02] <nomed> to make it "more" different from the kubuntu one
[07:03] <lapo> talking about colors, the blues of the logo are, well lousy
[07:04] <lapo> it needs something vivid
[07:04] <lapo> and someting not blue, since blue is kubuntu
[07:04] <nomed> lapo, yep
[07:04] <lapo> I'd say green 
[07:04] <nomed> i totally agree
[07:04] <lapo> green goes weel with tango icons
[07:05] <lapo> and if you *REALLY* want i could do green tango folders
[07:05] <lapo> even if the blue one are ok with green
[07:05] <Tm_T> ugh
[07:06] <Tm_T> now you're awake...
[07:06] <nomed> lapo, if it'll not be too much work it would be nice to show your mocups to the whole xubuntu team
[07:06] <Tm_T> http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/k-ed-ubuntu/images.html
[07:06] <lapo> I have no mockups
[07:07] <Tm_T> something I played around ;)
[07:07] <nomed> lapo, anyway i guess blue should be used ..
[07:07] <nomed> and i was thinking on adding some gray ..
[07:08] <lapo> grey is boooring
[07:08] <lapo> win95 was grey
[07:08] <nomed> lapo, have u seen graphite theme ?
[07:08] <dholbach> does anybody know if andreasn wanted to show up later today?
[07:08] <lapo> nope, link?
[07:09] <lapo> dholbach: dunno, if ou need orange icons you can try to ask me, I send him all of my stuff tho
[07:09] <dholbach> rocknroll
[07:09] <dholbach> i wanted to tell him, how far I got with Tangerine
[07:10] <dholbach> and wanted him to merge from my tree
[07:10] <lapo> I think he is at least as far as I am with orangotango
[07:10] <nomed> lapo, http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=35444
[07:10] <dholbach> there were some bugs in two Makefile.am
[07:11] <dholbach> i fixed them and now the package builds
[07:11] <nomed> this is ho i think xubuntu should look like ..
[07:11] <lapo> dholbach: you should really not do the mishmash with tango and git icons
[07:11] <dholbach> lapo: that's not my call
[07:11] <lapo> dholbach: mine?
[07:12] <dholbach> I care about the packaging, the building and everything :)
[07:12] <dholbach> Mark has a lot of influence on the decision
[07:12] <lapo> dholbach: if mark prefer a gnome icon to the tango one I'll redo it in tango style
[07:12] <lapo> please ask before mishmash
[07:13] <dholbach> it will be discussed
[07:13] <dholbach> and I don't think I'll have a loud voice on this
[07:13] <dholbach> http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/ic/ has the latest
[07:14] <lapo> dholbach: it's nice to see how better are the tango styled icons :-)
[07:15] <dholbach> I suggest taking the page as base of discussion on ubuntu-art or somewhere else makes most sense
[07:15] <dholbach> i will merge from Andreas tree hourly and build a package which is integrated into this page
[07:15] <dholbach> and I'll do uploads to the real ubuntu archive every now and then
[07:16] <dholbach> but I'm not deciding and it's not my call anywhere :)
[07:16] <lapo> dholbach: btw that compare page is a bit "unfair" you contront 48x48 to 22x22 icons
[07:16] <dholbach> that's a bug
[07:16] <dholbach> i'm working on it (and some other things)
[07:16] <dholbach> if you click on the icons you get a popup
[07:16] <lapo> dholbach: can you fix it before the discussion? :-)
[07:16] <dholbach> i have other stuff to do as well
[07:17] <dholbach> but i will look into it, promise
[07:17] <lapo> nice guy :-)
[07:18] <lapo> dholbach: a have some more recolored icons on my disk btw
[07:18] <dholbach> lapo: andreas will merge them in
[07:19] <lapo> yeah, just to let you know, that's there's more stuff coming
[07:19] <dholbach> please understand, I work on a lot of other stuff too and I don't want to be the point where people send their pictures :)
[07:19] <dholbach> I'm really happy with your icons
[07:19] <dholbach> they really rock
[07:19] <dholbach> and I'm grateful for your guys' work on it
[07:19] <lapo> tnx, happy you like them
[07:19] <dholbach> :-)
[07:20] <lapo> I'd be happier if mark actually likes them :-)
[07:20] <dholbach> I need to finish another feature for him, then I'll mail him
[07:22] <lapo> dholbach: i spotted out this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141227&highlight=lapo
[07:22] <lapo> tango 80, human 28 :-)