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tristanmikepatrick52222: gnome-look.org12:00
TeMagichi there!12:00
ernzgnome-look.org Patrick5222212:00
remFYI: http://www.thawte.com/12:00
redguysfar-ubu: try running file the_file.tar.bz212:00
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TeMagicI have an issue, that I need help with12:00
rhythminmindanyone get smb to work in nautilus in dapper?12:00
ernzThanks for your help all.12:00
ernzIm to bed12:00
mwerhythminmind: yeah12:00
kRaKoN!tell kRaKoN about universe12:00
ernzGood night12:00
rhythminmindin broken in all my updated systems12:00
rhythminmindit's12:00
rebelguys6ask away TeMagic12:00
Belgainhi there; quick question - i've got a remote control properly working under breezy, how can i get a certain program to launch on a certain keypress?12:00
TeMagichow do I run only terminal in ubuntu. I mean how do I close down X, in order to upgrade my display drivers?12:01
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rhythminminddid you have to change anything?12:01
remhttp://www.thawte.com/secure-email/personal-email-certificates/index.html12:01
c0llincan someone help me with compiling wine(amd64)??12:01
mwerhythminmind: I just typed smb:/12:01
Belgaini'm using the remote in mythtv, but would like to be able to actually use it to launch mythtv as well....12:01
rhythminmindno go for me.. allot of people are having the same issue as i12:01
mwerhythminmind: it's been a while though. might have broken since, I haven't checked lately12:01
redguyc0llin: wine is not for amd6412:01
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mwerhythminmind: does it work from CLI or konqueror or something?12:02
TeMagicanybody know?12:02
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c0llinredguy: is there a way i can use it?12:02
BlueHeronc0llin, i think you can setup a 32bit chroot12:02
NickGarveyTeMagic: hold ctrl alt backspace12:02
NickGarveythat sholud kill x12:02
rhythminmindmwe - yeah it works with others12:02
BlueHeronrestart X12:02
BlueHeron:-p12:02
TeMagicdoesn't that just restart X?12:02
BlueHeronyea12:02
BlueHeronit restarts it12:02
rhythminmindi've heard it's a gnome config12:02
mwerhythminmind: hmm. sounds like nautilus is broken then :|12:03
TeMagicI need to shut it down, because I can't upgrade drivers while X is running12:03
NickGarveysomeone told me holding it restarted12:03
rhythminmindgnome-vfs or something12:03
NickGarveykilled*12:03
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BlueHeronNickGarvey^ they lied to you :-P12:03
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rebelguys6er no, it kill s12:03
rebelguys6it kills it,12:03
Belgainno idea on how to bind IR input events to program launching then...?12:03
rhythminmindwell you fix one thing break anouther12:03
rebelguys6gdm/kdm restarts it12:03
BlueHeronno it does not lol, it restarts it :-p12:03
remthis is what i get when i try to send a signed mail: Enter the password for `NSS User Private Key and Certificate Services'12:04
rambo3was used to ctrl alt f112:04
NickGarveyeh alright, I don't use a gui most of the time12:04
TeMagicctrl alt f1?12:04
stegallohello12:04
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TeMagicI'll try... thanks!12:04
remI searched Everywhere for that @"* NSS user ... :(12:04
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mweTeMagic: remember alt-f7 brings you back to X12:04
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remand No One seems to know what it is ... :(12:05
steve_unable to find printer driver for hp office jet pro k550...not available from hp. ideas?12:06
BlueHeronsteve_^ you tried setting it up in cups ?12:06
mwesteve_: best bet is to search linuxprinting.org12:06
steve_tried new printer under administration12:07
BlueHeronsteve_: or set it up in system>administration>printing12:07
BlueHerondidn't work?12:07
mwesteve_: that will tell you if any driver works for other people and if so what driver12:07
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steve_nope12:07
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rhythminmindmwe - what smb client would you use12:07
mwesteve_: go to linuxprinting.org and search the database12:07
BlueHeronhmm the refresh rate is set to 61hz that's weird12:07
mwerhythminmind: smbmount12:07
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steve_linuxprinting.org, here i come!!! thanks!12:07
rhythminmindahh yes12:08
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flintSeveas, what up dog?12:08
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Seveasflint, ?12:08
mwerhythminmind: smbmount  //HOST/SharedDocs /mnt/share -o password=<secret>12:08
rhythminmindthanks12:09
flintSeveas, just passing thru thought I would say hi...12:09
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Seveashi 12:09
Joetheoddhi seveas!12:09
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flintSeveas, you are on CET eh?  you should get some sleep...12:10
RaymanHey, I'm looking for a cheap 54mb wlan card that'll easily work with linux.12:10
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Seveasflint, true, true - I have 3690 bugmails to go though12:10
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matuteHi!..I'm from argentina and I'm newbe in ubuntu...12:10
Matthewvhi matute12:11
tristanmikewelcome12:11
matuteHi all just to say that and read something of your help...12:11
flintRayman, i like Belkin cards they are very cheap...12:11
L0chHi everyone. I would like to use both Windows 2000 and Ubuntu on my computer. I was able, years ago, to install five different OS on a harddrive, but I can't remember how I did that (probably a multiboot software). Is there a safe and easy way to do this with Ubuntu? If so, where could I find info on this? Any help welcome!12:11
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mweRayman: I hear prism2 based cards should work well12:11
matutethanks for welcome me...I just open the Xchat IRC window and found all you talking...12:11
remfound this: That's what I thought. Ok, from what I know (and I'm going to keep poking around to find out more) Evolution 2.0.2 has a bug that's preventing you from importing that certificate12:11
rem??12:11
SeveasL0ch, the ubuntu installer woll do that for you automatically if you install windows before linux12:12
matuteIt's like another world behind the window...jeje12:12
dj-fuL0ch, make seperate partitions.. Install windows on one (it must be a Primary partition), install linux after you install windows12:12
KovecsesL0ch: just make sure you have the partitions set up and you will be fine12:12
flintSeveas, you ever heard of a network but in breezy that effects the nic on sony viaos?  I just told someone to just invoke networking again... and that seemed to do it.12:12
dj-fugrub will auto-detect it, and add it to your boot loader12:12
flintSeveas, speaking of bugs that is...12:12
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rambo3LOch there is a even video on googlevideo for installing ubuntu and windows12:12
matutewell guys...i'll join another day, thanks for be there. chears! --matute12:12
Seveasflint, too vague - could you be more sepcific?12:12
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flint:^)12:12
nataliehello all.  I was wondering if anyone had anysuggestions that might be able to help me.  I have tried different installations of 5.10 and none of them seem to work properly.  They all freeze when it gets to the login screen.  I have tried fixing the video driver, but that doesn't work either.  I could really use any help, thank you.12:13
flintSeveas, na, I am a smart guy who can spell malone as well as you can... thanks anyway for rattling your brain on it anyway.12:13
rambo3L0ch, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu12:13
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Kovecsesnatalie: have any other versions worked?12:13
L0chSeveas, Kovecses and rambo3: Thanks a lot for the info :) Windows 2000 is already installed, so I guess I'll try right away, but I'll have a look at the googlevideo before. Thanks again! (Thanks Rambo3)12:13
Rddefound out what syntax i want to use for the cron but I dont know where the cron conf file is? =)12:13
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natalieKovecses: I have gotten 4.10 to work fine.12:14
mweRdde: crontab -e for the user crontab12:14
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flintnatalie, try typing server at the boot prompt.  That will install a command line only version of the product.  If that works then you may get some insight...12:14
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Rddemwe, thanks12:15
natalieflint: Are you reffering to the instalation?12:15
flintnatalie, indeed at the boot: prompt type server...12:15
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Raymanmwe: how could I tell what chip it's using?12:16
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mweRayman: a card you don't have?12:17
mweRayman: vendors web page I guess12:17
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XVampireXI can't install Ubuntu (I'm on live cd) I've tried everything, it seems as if my CDrom isn't thinking or perhaps it shouldn't at the time... Is there any step by step guide to installing ubuntu?12:17
natalieflint:  just to make sure before i do this, you want me to type server when I am attempting to do an install, correct.  Sorry, just want to make sure before I do this12:17
BlueHeronnatalie: type serve for server install :_P12:17
BlueHeronserver*12:17
XVampireXAnyone knows?12:17
Raymanmwe: I'd guess too. But at least belkin doesn't mention it. Oh well, googling around. ty.12:18
rebelguys6XVampireX, shouldn't you use the install cd12:18
rebelguys6?12:18
flintnatalie, put the cd in power up the computer watch the initial boot up.  The word boot: will appear in the bottom left hand corner.  type the word "server"12:18
Sergi0XVampireX, install doesnt work with livecd, download the install cd12:18
XVampireXYes, I can't install it12:18
BlueHeronXVampireX: do you get an error?12:18
natalieflint, thanks, that should help.12:18
XVampireXI get an error, yeah12:18
BlueHeronXVampireX: what error12:18
XVampireXI didn't write it down so I don't really remember what it was12:18
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flintnatalie, no problem...12:18
mweXVampireX: you can't install ubuntu from the live cd. you need the install cd12:18
flintsksk12:18
XVampireXI know it happens right when I have to install the kernel12:18
BlueHeronXVampireX: well if you tell us the error we can help better12:19
XVampireXmwe: I am on live cd BECAUSE I can't install it from the install cd12:19
remfollowd this, but doesnt work: http://www.novell.com/documentation/evolution24/index.html?page=/documentation/evolution24/evolution24/data/encryption.html12:19
rem:(12:19
mweXVampireX: I SEE12:19
green_earz /join #loosechange12:19
XVampireXI can't really tell you the error but it doesn't let me install the kernel12:19
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XVampireXAnd for some reason I can't eject the CD, because it might be because my cdrom drive is messed up12:20
fiendskull9!bot12:20
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.12:20
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XVampireXCan't anyone help me? :'(12:21
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Sergi0XvampireX where did the installer fail?12:21
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XVampireXI already said....12:21
XVampireXRight when I have to install the kernel12:21
XVampireXI try to select some kernel and it won't let me12:21
Sergi0hmm could the cd be corrupt12:22
XVampireXNope12:22
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XVampireXMost likely the cdrom drive, because I just got the ubuntu cds in mail today12:22
fiendskull9XVampireX, you dont have to select kenrel in ubuntu install.12:22
Sergi0oh, ur using the 5.10 version12:22
XVampireXyes12:22
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Sergi0but there is no kernel choice in the installer?12:23
XVampireXthere is12:23
Sergi0hmm12:23
remit asks Enter the password for `NSS User Private Key and Certificate Services' when trying to import the certificates in Evolution ..12:23
Sergi0how did u get there?12:23
XVampireXWhen it is supposed to install the base files12:23
MatthewvXVampireX, you cannot eject a cd when running in live cd mode... and 5.10 has a bug that means that the eject key on a cdrom drive mostoften will not work in ubuntu12:23
XVampireXafter the partitioning12:23
fiendskull9XVampireX, there is no choice of kernel when installing, ubuntu uses one kernel.12:23
tristanmikeXVampireX: yeah, if it's asking you to choose a kernel, there is something wrong...what type of computer do you have ?12:23
fiendskull9XVampireX, this isnt slackware :P12:23
Sergi0:)12:23
tristanmike;)12:23
XVampireXUhm12:24
arturdo you know some channel with gawk gurus ?12:24
rambo3debian has that too12:24
XVampireX1.5ghz p412:24
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fiendskull9Sergi0, thats the one thing i hate about installing slack, im always afraid im gonna mess up on the choosing of the kernel12:24
redguyartur: #awk?12:24
BlueHeronwget is sexy :-P12:24
fiendskull9!gawk12:24
ubotufiendskull9: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:24
XVampireXPerhaps I messed up in the earlier stages, specifically in the partitioning...12:24
fiendskull9XVampireX, hes talking in general, the cpu wont matter uin this case.12:24
BlueHeronhm12:24
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XVampireXWell, what am I supposed to say then? 256mbram memory, 128 video mbram geforce 5200, etc...12:26
tristanmikeXVampireX: yeah, just wanted to make sure we weren't dealing with some obscure system12:26
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fiendskull9tristanmike, like a p1 with 40 mb of ram :D12:26
XVampireXIsn't there some kind of installation guide?12:26
tristanmikefiendskull9: lol, 386 :P12:26
Sergi0there is ...12:26
XVampireXWhere?12:27
fiendskull9XVampireX, its pretty basic, just select partition, and baddabing.12:27
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BlueHeronXVampireX: did you make a swap partition ?12:27
mwetristanmike: that's fancy. I stick with a modded commodore 6412:27
XVampireXWell a friend of mine told me to use 3 partitions12:27
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XVampireXYes I did12:27
BlueHeronXVampireX: with 128 ram your going to need a swap of like 768MB or more12:27
XVampireXI got 256 ram12:27
BlueHeronokay then 51212:27
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mwe256MB should be enough12:28
XVampireXand it asks me for 768 swap12:28
BlueHeronthats fine12:28
fiendskull9lol12:28
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XVampireXWell, I followed what my friend told me12:28
XVampireX3 partitions....12:28
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nikii just installed some games with synaptic, and the sound isn't working on them...however, the sound works fine in gnome (like the little boop sound it makes when you make a selection), and also in amarok.  any ideas?12:28
XVampireX1 for boot, 1 for home and 1 for swap12:28
arturi've problem with for ( index in array ) { print "e" } loop same times as array size  3x ~ "e e e" , but for ( index in array) { print array[index] } gives no output12:28
BlueHeronthat might be your problem12:28
mweXVampireX: well whatever. I keep everything on one partition12:29
BlueHeronthe boot partition12:29
Sergi0XVampireX whats are the sizes12:29
BlueHerondo it without the boot partition12:29
L0chrambo3: Hahaha, funny video but instructive.12:29
fiendskull9niki, you cant have amarokgaim/or any other sound apps running whilst playing12:29
BlueHeronfiendskull9: not true12:29
fiendskull9niki, because they all use dev/dcp12:29
remPK11_Authenticate failed12:29
BlueHeronfiendskull9: if you use alsa you can12:29
nikifiendskull9, i thought about that too...i turned off amarok and had the same problem12:29
BlueHeronfiendskull9: amarok can use alsa.12:29
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XVampireX5gb for boot 35gb for home and 768 for swap12:29
tanukican someone tell me what the following means? umount: it seems /dev/sda2 is mounted multiple times12:29
tanukieject: unmount of `/media/ipod' failed12:29
fiendskull9BlueHeron, i know, i always set my audio progs to oss out12:29
BlueHeron5GB FOR BOOT12:29
BlueHeronLOL12:29
XVampireXThat's what he told me12:29
Sergi0:)12:29
BlueHeronthats terrible12:29
mweXVampireX: why'd you even have a seperate /boot partition?12:29
nikifiendskull9, what should i do?12:30
XVampireXnot boot partition, I mean plain / partition whatever it's called12:30
BlueHeronhere's my setup 5gb for 10gb for /usr 140 gb for /home 5gb for /tmp12:30
fiendskull9niki, what games are they12:30
Amaranth/boot does not need 5gb12:30
mweXVampireX: and 50MB or so would probably be more thanb enough12:30
BlueHeron5gb for /12:30
Amaranthoh, you mean /12:30
nikifiendskull9, supertux and bumprace12:30
BlueHeronyea12:30
BlueHeron5gb is good for12:30
BlueHeron /12:30
Amaranth5gb for / might be too small12:30
BlueHeronnah12:30
BlueHeronit works fine12:30
XVampireXI only got 40gb12:30
BlueHeronif /usr is on another part12:30
BlueHeronand /tmp ...12:30
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fiendskull9niki, see if they have audio options in there prefrences, and set them to use oss (if u can)12:30
mweXVampireX: I that case I'd go with just one partition12:31
nikifiendskull9, in supertux, the sound option was completely grayed out :S12:31
davidmoore83OK next problem - built in Soundblaster 2412:31
BlueHeroni have /home /tmp /usr and / on dif partitions12:31
fiendskull9niki, damn12:31
BlueHeronno swap12:31
fiendskull9!alsa12:31
ubotuI heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix12:31
mweXVampireX: but that's just me. I don't see the point in loads of partitions for a home computer12:31
fiendskull9!tell niki about alsa12:31
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XVampireXso what should I have?12:31
BlueHeroni'd go with 2 parts12:31
BlueHeronone for all system files12:31
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BlueHeronand one for /home12:31
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XVampireXwhat about swap?12:32
mweXVampireX: just one big partition and a swap partition is my advice12:32
BlueHeronyea and a swap.12:32
BlueHeronmwe: putting home on a seperate is *always* a good idea12:32
remPK11_Authenticate failed -- what is that  ?? thats when it aks for the NSS user ..12:32
void^i'd go with that BlueHeron recommends12:32
mweBlueHeron: why is that?12:32
polpakXVampireX, I say one small partition < 10GB, one swap, and put the rest on /home12:32
XVampireXBlueHeron: That's what I did...12:32
remin evolution12:32
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davidmoore83BlueHeron: any ideas about built in SB 24?12:32
tanukican someone tell me what this means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1093212:32
polpakmwe, makes reinstalls easier12:32
BlueHerondavidmoore83: nope12:32
XVampireXpolpak: That's what I did12:32
polpakmwe, you can format the / partition without mucking up your personal files12:32
fiendskull9mwe, you dont lose all your documents12:32
mwepolpak: its easy with once partition as well. you don't have to erase /home because you have just one partition12:33
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XVampireXAlso12:33
Sergi0XvampireX, try to reinstall with another cd (if u have one) and try over, then come back here, and if there is an erro try to remember the info12:33
XVampireXAm I supposed to use LMV?12:33
BlueHeronXVampireX: no12:33
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XVampireXor whatever it was12:33
mwepolpak: you can just rename /home then erase the other stuff from a live cd12:33
BlueHeronXVampireX: how big is your h12:33
BlueHerond12:33
Sergi0>40gb12:33
tanukican someone tell me how to eject my ipod? i already umounted it12:33
mwepolpak: reformatting should not be necesary12:34
tanukibut the ipod says do not disconnect12:34
XVampireX40gb12:34
void^it generally helps with fs efficiency if you keep different usage patterns in different fs12:34
BlueHeronXVampireX: i'd go 10gb / partition and 30gb /home12:34
Sergi0and a swap ...12:34
XVampireXwhat about swap?12:34
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BlueHeronand the swap12:34
XVampireXhow much for swap?12:34
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BlueHeronminuses from the home12:34
BlueHeronminused*12:34
Sergi0512 is fine for u12:34
BlueHeronumm... 768 should be fine12:34
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polpakXVampireX, supposed to be 2x your physical ram12:34
BlueHeron512-768 you make the call12:34
BlueHeroni have 1gig ram and i never use a swap12:34
BlueHeronand i never have problems ..12:34
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fiendskull9XVampireX, i have 1 gb of ram, with a 2gb swap.12:35
mwepolpak: so for 4GB of RAM you should have 8GB swap. I don't think so12:35
void^500mb swap is bare minimum with 256mb ram12:35
polpakmwe, that's what the kernel devs recommend12:35
XVampireXAnd what kind of partitioning should I do exactly?12:35
GnarusLeohow would i go about changing my whole interface from gnome to kde?12:35
XVampireXYou said there is a guide for installation... where?12:35
void^(unless you never do anything besides webbrowsing)12:35
polpakGnarusLeo, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:35
mwepolpak: who are you refering to here? I never saw linus or andrew or someone like that say that12:35
BlueHeronfiendskull9: that's a waste12:35
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BlueHeronmwe: nope you shouldn't if you have 4gb of ram you don't need a swap lol12:36
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fiendskull9BlueHeron, ive got a 500 gb harddrive, lol. waste isnt a word in my case.12:36
mweBlueHeron: exactly my point12:36
redguyBlueHeron: not true12:36
BlueHeronfiendskull9: it can actually reduce performance though12:36
void^if it's a heavy load db server you might still need swap..12:36
fiendskull9polpak, kubuntu desktop apt0-get will install all kde programs12:36
BlueHeronvoid^: lol but it isn12:36
nataliehello again, I went ahead and installed the server version of 5.10 and it installed fine.12:36
BlueHeron:_P12:36
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tanukican someone explain to me how to eject my ipod?12:36
BlueHeronall i know is with 1gb of ram i have never needed a swap.12:36
fiendskull9GnarusLeo, do sudo apt-get install kdebase12:37
BlueHerontanuki: sudo umount /dev/ipod12:37
BlueHeronwherever it's mounted12:37
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BlueHeronuse mount to find out12:37
tanukii already unmounted it12:37
natalieis there anyway to change a server version in to a normal version?12:37
BlueHeronthen just pull it out12:37
tanukiit was mounted twice for some reason12:37
tanukibut my ipod still says do not disconnect12:37
nataliewithout re-installing12:37
BlueHerontanuki: it will always say that12:37
polpakmwe,  http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0101.3/1225.html12:37
tanukigreat12:37
Sergi0natalie> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:37
frank23natalie: yes:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:37
redguyBlueHeron: if you would have swap you could use more of your memory. Rarely used memory pages would get swapped12:38
XVampireXSo is there a guide to install or not?12:38
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nataliehere is a question though, If I was having problems before with it freezing, is there any way to ensure that I won't have the same problem?12:38
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fiendskull9polpak, whenever someone asks about changing kde interface, confirm they want ALL the kde programs, kubuntu-desktop install all its programs too, if they just want kde interface, then do apt-get kdebase.12:38
mwepolpak: did you read the post?12:38
BlueHeronredguy: swap is not needed with 1gb of ram +12:38
XVampireXMeh, bye12:38
patrick52222how do i install icon themes12:38
mwepolpak: linus says "But there really is no "fixed" rule: it can depend a lot on your usage patterns"12:39
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patrick52222/home/patrick/Desktop/32146-glass-icons.tar.gz12:39
patrick52222 this is the format12:39
polpakmwe,  he also said ""memory x 2" is probably a good rule. With normal usage patterns, at the12:39
polpakpoint you fully use up your swap, you _want_ the system to start killing12:39
polpakthings off due to out-of-memory errors."12:39
void^well, needed, reasonable, useful, there are a few small differences there..12:39
tristanmikepatrick52222: open up the theme manager and install, then select "theme details" to select the icons12:39
polpakgrr12:39
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frank23natalie: trying the live cd is probably the best way to check if ubuntu will work correctly12:39
polpakI don't know why xchat did that12:39
kingspawnBlueHeron: how do you imagine your ram spent if 15x kernels spent at 1x time?12:39
nootropeshould BB boot up and automatically find a 10BaseT network connection? i have my laptop plugged into a router but have to "Activate" eth0 everytime i boot into Ubuntu.12:39
BlueHeronpatrick52222: go to theme's and theme details then icons and drag that file into the window12:39
redguyBlueHeron: as I said: not true. Googling for proof12:39
mwepolpak: he's been wrong before. 8GB swap for 4GB of RAM is way over dimensioned12:39
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BlueHeronkingspawn: dunno what you are saying12:40
nataliefrank23, what i don't get is why it will work if i run the gdm from recovery mode, but won't otherwise.12:40
fiendskull9BlueHeron, i play UT2004, on high performance, usually with TS in bg, and i have 1 gb of ram. i used to not have swap, and it lagged, i added swap, and it doesnt lag. i feel it nescessary to have swap. its personal usage prefrence/12:40
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patrick52222cheers works now tahnks you all12:40
BlueHeronfiendskull9: i don't play games, but i do burn dvd's .. and i have never had a problem12:40
mwepolpak: and for 64 MB of RAM you want 256 swap or more12:40
frank23natalie: not sure what could be the cause12:40
polpakmwe, well without delving into the details of what the OP was going to be doing with his computer I was attempting to give him a general case.12:40
kingspawnBlueHeron: how do you image your ram is spent if 50.000 proesses wants resources at one time?12:40
BlueHeronkingspawn: i run a learn system.12:40
BlueHeronlean*12:40
nataliefrank23: alright, well, i'll just give it a try.12:40
polpakmwe, but if you want to know all the backstory and pug it into your magical formula for swap arbitration, don't let me stop you12:41
kingspawnBlueHeron: meaning?12:41
taotimehi folks anybody know how to get mp3 files (ringtones) to my motorola V551 GSM phone12:41
fiendskull9BlueHeron, UT2004 on extreme settings is MUCH more demanding then dvd burnig, lol. it uses about 1.5 gb of ram on full settings.12:41
BlueHeronkingspawn: i don't run stuff for no reason12:41
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kingspawnBlueHeron: stilll, you are on irc.12:41
redguyBlueHeron: http://kerneltrap.org/node/320212:41
void^it seems you buy ram for no reason :P12:41
mwepolpak: yeah. probably an ok rule of thumb, but a _very_ general rule12:41
BlueHeronfiendskull9: again i don't play games... i just know i don't need a swap, and i have played games on pc's with noswap12:41
polpakmwe, I simply stated that 2x your ram is what's recommended by the kernel devs. And you claimed that they said no such thing. So I pointed out that they had, etc.12:41
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polpakmwe, I didn't say it would blow up your computer if you used less/more than that12:42
fiendskull9redguy, you owned him with that link, lol.12:42
kingspawnBlueHeron: later, swap will be useless -> now it is used.12:42
polpakmwe, that's just waht they reccommend12:42
mwepolpak: linus is they?12:42
BlueHeronfiendskull9: owned? grow up please. swap is not needed12:42
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polpakmwe, I've read it elsewhere also12:42
polpakmwe,  it was just the first thread I could find12:43
BlueHeronThis said, numerous Linux users do report success running a swapless system.12:43
fiendskull9BlueHeron, lol, okay. im gonna make a survey. and run a benchmark :P just to be a smart ass.12:43
mwepolpak: it's still a very very general rule. just like linus himself suggests in the same post12:43
redguyBlueHeron: sure, you got more expertise that the guy who wrote one of the i/o shedulers for linux12:43
fiendskull9BlueHeron, the linux users they surveyed must just use it to check there email.12:43
BlueHeronredguy: i got enough to know what works and i run no swap. period end of story /ignoring the word12:43
BlueHeronswap12:44
budluvadoes anyone here have a working broadcom wireless card (integrated) using breezy????? i have a broadcom 4318 card and was wondering if i have to use ndiswrapper or does the .deb from cafuego work??? im reading from the wiki and there are 2 methods, ndiswrapper and a .deb, just wondering which method people have had more luck with12:44
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fiendskull9!wireless12:44
ubotuwireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers12:44
polpakmwe, I didn't say it wasn't a general rule.. I just said that that's the recommedation (which is therefore a general rule). If I wanted to get into the nitty gritty of each individual person's machine and what apps they're going to run etc. I'd never get anything done12:44
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budluvafiendskull9, thanks bro12:44
fiendskull9lol12:44
fiendskull9np12:44
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Raymanfiendskull9: I just installed ubuntu dapper with XFCE to a PII 256 ram and it works like a charm.. barely swaps any. The thing is, after upgrading 64mb -> 256mb, windows 98 did not speed up at all.12:45
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mwepolpak: I think it's too general to be a good recomendation, but maybe that's just me12:45
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Raymanand yes, linux does use ram much more efficiently than windows. Of that I'm sure of.12:45
Animolemoo12:45
polpakmwe, well than what general rule would you recommend?12:45
mwepolpak: none12:45
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RaymanI've read some posts about microsoft forcing swap for spying purposes etc ;<12:45
mwepolpak: I'd look at the system in question12:45
BlueHeroni'd say if you have more then 1gb you don't need a swap.12:45
AnimoleQuick question.... I have an old Compaq laptop with a D-Link wireless card, will Ubuntu support that card?12:46
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fiendskull9!wireless12:46
ubotuI guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers12:46
DBORayman, you can take off your tinfoil hat...12:46
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BlueHeronhaha12:46
fiendskull92 wireless questions in less than 2 mins :_/12:46
RaymanDBO: you never know :f12:46
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polpakmwe, well then you have far more free time than I do12:47
BlueHeronfiendskull9: they never stop12:47
BlueHeroni dunno why people bother using wireless12:47
fiendskull9BlueHeron, lol.12:47
mwepolpak: whatever. let's drop it12:47
polpakI'll just point anyone asking about swap in your direction12:47
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nikihello....i am not getting any sound when i run games (supertux), but sounds work fine in gnome.  i followed the directions given by !alsa, but i'm still having the same problem...any ideas?12:47
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fiendskull9BlueHeron, exactly, its slow. ineffecient. goes down alot12:47
DBORayman, yeah, well you can definately disable it if you want... but it will just swap file in RAM then12:47
BlueHeronfiendskull9: yep12:47
BlippeBlueHeron, cause it is so easy to set up?12:47
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BlueHeronBlippe: wireless is?12:47
fiendskull9Blippe, not as easy as pluggin in a wire.12:47
BlueHeronBlippe: not from what i've seen..12:47
connI'm streaming a dvd with vlc, and the cpu usage is about 20-30% and 70% idle cpu, but moving windows is very choppy. DMA is enabled for the DVD drive, can someone suggest another solution to the choppiness?12:47
Wulstanplease help. i have an onboard nvidia soundcard, i've never used ubuntu before, and i have no sound. i've swapped stuff around in the multimedia system selector, and sound preferences. that's all i can think of to try.12:48
polpakniki, one sec12:48
nikipolpak, k :)12:48
BlueHeronconn: how much ram12:48
fiendskull9BlueHeron, well, linksys is pretty easy. but the routers overheat ALOT.12:48
connBlueHeron: 1gb12:48
BlueHeronfiendskull9: i have a linksys router, and a dlink switch both work great12:48
toni_hi ,,,,, is there a free software for linux which i can read pdf and edit in the same time ?12:48
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nootropeyes no question: should BB boot up and automatically find a 10BaseT network connection? i have my laptop plugged into a router but have to "Activate" eth0 everytime i boot into Ubuntu.12:48
BlueHeronnootrope: cat /etc/network/interfaces12:48
fiendskull9!pdf12:48
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull912:48
fiendskull9hmm12:48
_micki have an install problem, when installing the base system, it stalls at 6%, the machien is a p3 550, with 256m ram. can anyone help me with this?12:48
mwetoni_: you can convert to pdf from other formats12:48
nargthis is odd. I'm on a breezy box, but there is no /etc/shadow...12:49
nootropethanx BlueHeron!12:49
fiendskull9toni_, i dunno of any editors. you can try wine and adobe acrobat.12:49
toni_!pdf ?12:49
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, toni_12:49
gn0meHello! I have a symbolic link in my homedir to a scripts directory on another harddrive. Basically, sometimes my homedir gets cluttered (I try to use a tmp/ dir for almost everything, but things don't always stay clean) and to clean my homedir, I perform a "rm *" in it, it deletes everything except the dirs.. but also takes the symbolic link with it. I have a script to do the cleaning and rebuild the link, but I was wondering if there's a better way to set 12:49
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BlueHeronnootrope: do you have auto eth0 in that file somewhere ?12:49
toni_adobe is not free12:49
Hal9000how can i see how big the contents of a directory are, in shell?12:49
nikitoni_, i got a pdf reader using automatix12:49
toni_ok ... i will check it12:49
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BlueHeronHal9000: ls -l i believe12:49
nootropelemme check, BlueHeron12:49
fiendskull9toni_, gimme a sec, ill look up a pdf editor.12:49
nargHal9000: ls -lh dir will do it12:49
toni_ok12:49
toni_thx ,,12:50
rebelguys6du .12:50
BlueHeronnarg: thanks i knew i was missing a letter12:50
BlueHeron:-P12:50
polpakmwe, sorry if I came off argumentative. I just take offence when my attempts to inform people is discounted as being "rediculous", and my sources are called into question.12:50
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polpakbah12:50
Hal9000BlueHeron: i mean something like df -h, but for a directory. i want to know the size of the directory, with all its content and subdirs12:50
nootropeBlueHeron, nope. no auto eth012:50
nargBlueHeron: h isn't needed, but it gives it in kBs or MBs, not in bytes :p12:50
fiendskull9toni_, sudo apt-get install kword12:50
nikipolpak, did you have an idea for me?12:50
rebelguys6du -sh Hal900012:50
fiendskull9toni_, enjoy :)12:50
Sergi0Hal9000: du -h name-of-dir12:50
BlueHeronnootrope: on the bottom add auto eth012:50
Hal9000thanks12:51
polpakniki, yes12:51
BlueHeronnootrope: save it and reboot see if it works12:51
nootropecool. thanks, BlueHeron!12:51
nootropeok12:51
Wulstanplease help. i have an onboard nvidia soundcard, i've never used ubuntu before, and i have no sound. i've swapped stuff around in the multimedia system selector, and sound preferences. that's all i can think of to try.12:51
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fiendskull9Wulstan, hmmmm.12:51
toni_....12:51
fiendskull9!nvidia12:51
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:51
toni_sudo apt-get install kword12:51
fiendskull9toni_, yes.12:51
toni_is stoping and wants a cd12:51
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fiendskull9toni_, what!?12:52
fiendskull9toni_, thats not right.... hmm12:52
tristanmiketoni_: put the cd in12:52
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nikitoni_, don' tyou have the cd?12:52
fiendskull9tristanmike, its a free program12:52
redguygn0me: ls -1 | grep -v the_link_filename | xargs rm12:52
toni_ok i will do12:52
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polpakniki, try sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-esd12:52
tristanmiketoni_: then comment that line out of your sources.list to avoid that12:52
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Bog_can anyone here suggest a list manager for sending out monthly news letters?12:52
fiendskull9niki & tristanmike, its a apt-get program. kword. free.12:52
gn0meredguy: Ooh, thank you. :)12:52
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Bog_and managing subscriptions12:53
tristanmikefiendskull9: yeah, it wants the ubuntu cd12:53
michaelwhat channel was for scripters?12:53
fiendskull9tristanmike, ok.12:53
nikipolpak, trying, ty :)12:53
toni_ok12:53
toni_now is working12:53
fiendskull9michael, as in OO programming?12:53
michaelyea12:53
fiendskull9michael, any specific language?12:53
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nootropeBlueHeron: sorry, the line *was* there all along. So i guess it's not the problem.12:53
polpakniki, if that doesn't help you can also try libsdl1.2debian-alsa12:53
michael.sh file kinda thing12:53
fiendskull9michael, #sh12:53
nikipolpak, k :)12:53
tristanmiketoni_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   put a # in front of the cd line, and ctrl-x to save12:53
BlueHeronnootrope: okay do me a favor, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ?12:53
fiendskull9michael, one guy there12:54
nootropeyep. brb12:54
fiendskull9michael, #scripting12:54
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michaelO, i remember #bash  - thanks though12:54
taotimei m running ubuntu on a dell inspiron 5160 with a wireless network card. i put in the card but how will i know it is working12:54
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fiendskull9BlueHeron, here we go again :O lol.12:54
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fiendskull9taotime, umm, open firefox?12:54
toni_why ?12:54
clemyeatstaotime : type iwconfig12:55
fiendskull9toni_, itll get kword from the repos instead of cd12:55
toni_ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list what does it mean12:55
BlueHeronfiendskull9: lol12:55
toni_ok12:55
BlueHerontoni_: run it in terminal ..12:55
tristanmiketoni_: me? to avoid that pesky "asks for the cd" thing12:55
fiendskull9BlueHeron, im gonna keep count12:55
BlueHeronfiendskull9: lol12:55
toni_ah12:55
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tristanmiketoni_: that edits your "sources.list" file12:55
toni_but now is working and installing12:55
nargI'm configuring webmin, and in the miniserv.conf file, it has allow=127.0.0.1. I changed it to *, but it still denies nonlocalhosters. Do I need to run something?12:55
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Wulstan please help. i have an onboard nvidia soundcard, i've never used ubuntu before, and i have no sound. i've swapped stuff around in the multimedia system selector, and sound preferences. that's all i can think of to try. it's sound.12:55
toni_so i will wait ,,, until it finished the work12:56
tristanmiketoni_: yeah, when you install stuff in the future though12:56
toni_ok ... thats a good tip12:56
tristanmiketoni_: just a suggestion ;)12:56
toni_yes ... thats goood ,, thanks12:56
nootropeBlueHeron: http://pastebin.com/62598512:56
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redguyWulstan: could you paste the output of aumix -c 0 to the patebin?12:56
redguy!tell Wulstan about pastebin12:57
BlueHeronnootrope: what kind of connection is it, cable wired or.. ?12:57
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taotimefiendskull9 :  clem_yeats : i tried both but nothing is happening12:57
Wulstanredguy, i'm afraid that means nothing to me.12:57
redguyWulstan: do you know how to open a terminal?12:57
nootropeBlueHeron: ethernet cable to a Linksys router => DSL modem12:57
Wulstanredguy, yes12:57
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polpaknarg, are you sure that it's webmin that's denyting the access?12:57
nikipolpak, that worked, thank you very much!12:58
polpakniki, =)12:58
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redguyWulstan: enter amixer -c 0 in the terminal12:58
nargpolpak: Error - Access denied for 63.173.190.179 <- this is all I get.12:58
BlueHeronnootrope: then it uses pppoe, one second12:58
BlueHeron!pppoe12:58
ubotuwell, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE12:58
polpakniki, it's cause some of the oss drivers don't work well with certain cards12:58
redguyWulstan: copy the output of that command and paste it to the pastebin12:58
redguyWulstan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:58
nikipolpak, gotcha....thanks again....now i can play supertux all night with sound w00t12:58
polpakniki, and oss is what is installed by default for sdl lib (which is used by most games)12:58
polpakniki, it'll get solarwolf sound working too12:59
redguyWulstan: and give me the link to the pasted output so that I can see it12:59
nootropeBlueHeron: but the router does the PPPoE connection, no?12:59
nikipolpak, good...thats another i downloaded...haven't played it yet tho :)12:59
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echostormhi... can anyone assist me in getting my svideo tv-out working with ubuntu? I have the nvidia drivers installed and working properly... and get tv out during post and boot, but nothing until ubuntu begins shutdown.12:59
BlueHeronnootrope: do you have it set to do the conf?12:59
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polpaknarg, hrm.. don't know much about webmin I'm afraid12:59
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nootropeubuntu doesn't need to login via PPPoE if it's plugged into one of the router's ethernet ports, yes/no?12:59
nargpolpak: does that look like a filewall error to you, or a webmin error?01:00
patrick52222how do i change the screensplash picture01:00
BlueHeronnootrope: is the router set to do the configuer of pppoe ?01:00
nootropeBlueHeron: yes.01:00
polpaknarg, where are you seeing the error? is it in the browser, or a popup, or a log?01:00
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Wulstanredguy, i think it's there, hang on and i'll find the link...01:00
BlueHeronnootrope: ok do ifconfig -a in a term and pastebin the results01:00
nargpolpak: browser.01:00
toni_wow .... kword is working ......01:00
patrick52222how do i change the screensplash picture in gnome01:00
toni_thanks01:00
nootropeBlueHeron: ok. brb01:00
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Wulstanredguy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1093401:01
bimberi!splash01:01
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image01:01
Wulstanredguy, i really don't know that i've done that correctly...01:01
redguyWulstan: you did, wait a sec01:01
Stormx2eek... how do I symlink again/01:03
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nootropeBlueHeron: http://pastebin.com/62598701:03
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XVampireXI'm back with the error message01:03
redguyStormx2: man ln01:03
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nootropeBlueHeron: please note that i'm currently connected but only because i manually activated the Ethernet connection01:03
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XVampireX"An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system.01:04
XVampireX"01:04
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XVampireXCould anyone help me?01:04
giulianook ok ma qualcuno mi vede e mi saluta grazie01:05
Stormx2I guess... ln -s /path/to/current/directory /path/to/symlink ?01:05
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redguyWulstan: hmm, everything looks fine. You might try turning off the IEC958 output01:05
redguyStormx2: ln -s /path/to/the/target /path/to/symlink01:05
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Wulstanredguy: specifically where? (sorry)01:05
XVampireXThe people I talked to just a few seconds ago....01:05
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XVampireX"An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system."01:05
Bog_anyone know of a preinstalled ubuntu virtual machine?01:05
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fiendskull9does anyone know what "window maker" will be in the repos? will it be apt-get wm?01:06
redguyWulstan: in the mixer settings, there should be a speaker icon in top right cornet of your desktop01:06
giulianoby by01:06
tonyyarussoHow to "disable the check for a default display manager"?01:06
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tonyyarussofiendskull9: wmaker01:06
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fiendskull9tonyyarusso, thanks man01:07
chavoBog there's one for vmware01:07
polpakXVampireX, my guess is either not enough disk space, or bad cd.. ?01:07
fiendskull9tonyyarusso, im thinking bout trying it out, they talked about it in tux december 2005 issue.01:07
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redguyWulstan: if it's not that, sorry I can't help you01:07
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XVampireXCan't be not enough diskspace01:07
XVampireXmost likely bad cdrom01:07
XVampireXCan't be bad cd01:07
fiendskull9toots] 01:07
Bog_chavo: I'm looking for server applications, not workstation01:07
Bog_chavo: I know vmware has an appliance download which is a user desktop01:08
Wulstanredguy: i see the 'mixer', but nothing with "IEC958 output" to be seen.01:08
redguyBog_: you might have luck with xen I suppose01:08
msidcan anybody tell me any video capture applications besides kino which is for i394 devices and xawtv which i am already aware of ?01:08
^Odd^is there anyone who can tell me why ubuntu will not run my agp bus which is powered by a SiS 746 chipset? it used to but something changed in the updates.....not even vesa works right. can anyone point me in the right direction ubuntu will not see the chipset or the agp bus but suse does O_o....01:08
chavoyeah I don't know of any01:08
Bog_redguy: I am looking for a vmware virtual machine with ubuntu preinstalled01:08
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Wulstanredguy: i mean 'volume control'01:08
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XVampireXSo there's no fix?01:09
cappizsomeone here that could help me out with some sed?01:09
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vladuz976anybody here know how to use banshee with ipod?01:09
matej_i have this yellow icons in start menu in icewm if i pick up any of theme but Infadel! Why?01:09
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jerwarejerware01:10
polpakXVampireX, did you run the tests on the CD?01:10
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XVampireXwhat tests?01:10
polpakXVampireX, when you first start the install it offers to test the CD01:10
Bog_is it easy to perform a text mode ubuntu install with just server components?01:10
^Odd^so know one has any ideas what might be causein my issue with my agp?01:11
XVampireXIt doesn't?01:11
XVampireXI mean, it doesn't for me...01:11
polpakBog_, fairly easy yes01:11
matej_i have this yellow icons in start menu in icewm if i pick up any of theme but Infadel! Why?01:11
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XVampireXI don't think it's corrupt, I received it today in the mail!01:11
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redguyWulstan: sorry buddy, don't have gnome here, so I can't check and tell you what to set. Propably someone else in here might help you. By the command output I can tell, that your card is recognized, so all you have to do is to mess with the mixer and/or setup01:11
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Bog_polpak: is there a text-mode software update feature?01:11
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polpakBog_, yes, apt-get01:11
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redguyWulstan: setup of sound in gnome01:12
Bog_polpak: does that tell me what patches are missing?01:12
redguyBog_: yes, aptitude01:12
polpakBog_, not sure what you mean by "patches are missing" ..01:12
Wulstanredguy: cheers. i'm still lost i'm afraid. i'll keep messing about...01:12
XVampireXI guess I'll have to try this "test cd" feature or whatever01:12
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Bog_pol: will it automatically detect updates I'm missing?01:13
polpakBog_, yes01:13
tristanmikeTeChGuY-Canadian: linuxcommand.org01:13
redguy!tell Wulstan about sound01:13
CosmoDadif I reboot my machine, it instead powers down. How'd I fix that?01:13
dyrnesay i have 2 active connections eth0 and eth1 is there a way to have my ftp program use eth1 while regular internet access is using eth0?01:13
polpak!tell TeChGuY-Canadian about CLI01:13
redguyWulstan: see the link ubotu sent you, maybe that will help01:13
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Bog_pol: ok, I'll try creating a virtual machine and installing ubuntu01:13
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niki^afkevery time i run apt-get, at the end, it tries to get something called msttcorefonts and it messes up...this happens no matter what i'm trying to apt-get.  any ideas?01:14
CosmoDaddyrne: you might be able to use iptables01:14
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Wulstanredguy: thanks. i'll try... god this is confusing, but i'm not going back to xp. i swear it.01:14
BlueHeronwhere is the best place to add ifconfig eth0 up01:15
BlueHeron?01:15
BlueHeronfor loading a network interface on boot01:15
dyrneCosmoDad: no real experience with iptables guess its time to google :)01:15
BlueHerondyrne: use firestarter01:15
BlueHerondyrne: it gives it a gui01:15
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redguyWulstan: try in here later, maybe someone else will be able to help you01:15
Wulstanredguy: will do. thanks.01:15
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dyrnek01:15
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Bog_anyone in Toronto with an install CD?01:16
redguyBlueHeron: you might be interested in ifplugd01:16
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HOEHAVERcan someone gave me the link for the place you go when you have to type alot01:17
BlueHeronpastebin.com01:17
redguyBlueHeron: or, just edit /etc/network/interfaces and put a line with 'auto eth0'01:17
HOEHAVERthanks01:17
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BlueHeronredguy: yea i'm helping somone and that didn't work01:17
BlueHeronredguy: it's a deeper problem then that01:17
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TheFaction20can anyone help me with usb drivers?01:18
redguyBlueHeron: hmm ifconfig eth0 up is kindof a workaround...01:18
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BlueHeronredguy: yea but if it works whats the problem001:18
BlueHeron;-)01:18
BlueHeronredguy: and it worked so problem solved01:19
nootropethanks BlueHeron, and redguy!01:19
corvaxjust add a few lines to /etc/network/onterfaces to do that automatically01:19
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corvaxinter*01:19
BlueHeronnootrope: yep01:19
nikievery time i run apt-get, at the end, it tries to get something called msttcorefonts and it messes up...this happens no matter what i'm trying to apt-get.  any ideas?01:19
BlueHeronniki: sudo apt-get -f install01:20
TheFaction20can someone help me get usb drivers so i can use my external drive?01:20
polpakniki, what error does it give?01:20
nikierm01:20
TheFaction20it will recognize it when i initially plug it in. but then seems to d/c after a minute or too01:20
redguyTheFaction20: hmm doesn't it work out of the box?01:20
nikihold on, trying BlueHeron's solution :)01:20
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TheFaction20redguy: it does when in window01:21
TheFaction20s01:21
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TheFaction20redguy: but for some reason it isn't beeing recognized my ubuntu on the install unless its named something else. b/c i want to install it on there01:21
nikipolpak, now i'm not getting sound in chromium lol01:21
tonyyarussoHow to take screenshots of X in general?  So I could get ones of the login screen, for instance.01:21
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polpakniki, what is chromium?01:21
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nikipolpak, a game i got from synaptic01:22
schloobanyone care to list some reasons for switching from gentoo to ubuntu? after a little over a year of being a gentoo user, i'm kind of tired of the compile times and such. what does everyone like about ubuntu? :\01:22
nikipolpak, scrolling space shooter kinda game01:22
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polpak!info chromium01:22
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ubotuchromium: (Fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 424 kB01:22
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wermuttonyyarusso: use a camera (it is impossible as far as i know)01:22
redguyTheFaction20: "unless its named something else." <- could you elaborate on this?01:22
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tristanmikeschloob: "it just works" TM01:22
CosmoDadif I reboot my machine, it instead powers down. How'd I fix that?01:22
naztyi have a external hard drive mounted too /media/200gig does anyone know why i cant change to group owner01:22
nikiCosmoDad, i have that same problem01:22
Wulstanredguy: done it. thanks for the help. i'm not sure what did it, but it works now. cheers.01:22
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BlueHeronCosmoDad: try using sudo shutdown -r now01:22
corvaxhey nice01:22
BlueHeronCosmoDad: in a terminal01:23
corvaxa new game for the kids to play01:23
corvaxhehe01:23
redguyWulstan: yay! :-)01:23
tonyyarussowermut: Hmm.  'k.  I thought there was some command-line thing integrated with Gimp that would take an image from a set display.01:23
schloobtristanmike: eh, that sounds good enough for me :)01:23
TheFaction20redguy:i was looking for the name of the device "wd mybook" or something like that. but there was nothing like that.  so i was unawre what was what01:23
nootropeBlueHeron: i closed our priv window and failed to note the name of the file we changed. it was in /etc/init.d01:23
schloobmaybe i'll try it in vmware first, and if i like it i'll just go with it01:23
CosmoDad BlueHeron: I did sudo reboot which is supposedly the same01:23
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redguyTheFaction20: it might be called sda.01:24
nootropebootmisc.sh?01:24
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tristanmikeschloob: i mean, this is a support channel, but I've naught had a problem, well, one that wasn't my own stupidity ;)01:24
nootropeBlueHeron: never mind. sorry :\01:24
TheFaction20redguy:is there a way i can see what hardware is connected?01:24
NickGarveywhats a good media player guys?01:24
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redguyTheFaction20: in the installer?01:24
BlueHeronnootrope: you get it?01:24
redguyTheFaction20: we are talking about the installer, right?01:25
TheFaction20redguy:no, while im using the live cd01:25
Sergi0NickGarver: vlc plays almost all01:25
wermuttonyyarusso: I'm not totally sure it it is impossible, but the screenshots of login screens I've seen so far were taken with a camera.01:25
NickGarvey!vlc01:25
ubotuwell, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)01:25
redguyTheFaction20: are you using it right now?01:25
NickGarvey!xmms01:25
ubotuI guess xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)01:25
schloobtristanmike: oh, it is a support channel. i'm kind of used to chatting in distrobution channels :P anyways i'll  give it a try. thanks and bye!01:25
TheFaction20redguy:yes01:25
corvaxMplayer  or  vlc01:25
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tonyyarussowermut: Well, I have that option too, so if I don't hear something else soon, I can go with that.01:25
nootropeBlueHeron: yep. thanks01:25
naztyi have a external hard drive mounted too /media/200gig does anyone know why i cant change to group owner01:25
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BlueHeronnazty: what a weird mount spot01:26
naztywhys that01:26
BlueHeron200gig lol01:26
tonyyarussowermut: Maybe this is what I'm looking for... 'man import'01:26
BlueHeron:-P01:26
nazty:)01:26
naztyit specifys the drive01:26
corvaxnah you can preview a login screen01:26
nazty;D01:26
BlueHeronhehe01:26
corvaxthen do a screenshot01:26
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naztyim trying to chgrp it from root01:26
naztyand it wont let me01:26
naztychgrp: changing group of `200gig': Operation not permitted01:26
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BlueHeronnazty: did you use sudosu ?01:26
BlueHeronnazty: sudo su first01:26
redguyTheFaction20: run tail -f /var/log/messages in a terminal, plug in the drive and paste the output to pastebin.com please01:27
naztyyea01:27
naztyim su'ed in as root01:27
naztyroot can write to it01:27
naztyread from ti01:27
^Odd^i have a question the updated version of ubuntu dosen't see my agp bus or be able to use it....but the live cd can is there a way to figure out why?01:27
naztymy user cant write jsut read01:27
redguynazty: what filesystem is on the drive?01:27
wermuttonyyarusso: It seems that I was wrong, indeed.01:27
naztyfat3201:27
naztyits a vfat01:27
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tonyyarussowermut: I guess we both learn something :)01:28
void^you cannot change permissions or owner because fat32 doesn't support permissions or owner01:28
BlueHeron!ati01:28
ubotuati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358901:28
redguynazty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:28
tonyyarussoHow to install kdm theme from tarball?01:28
naztyyeah01:28
polpakvoid^, you can.. you just have to remount it01:28
corvaxapt-get install kdm01:28
naztybut i cant change to permissions of the directory?01:28
corvaxinstead01:28
BlueHeronquestion: if i download the drivers from ati and use those will i get better performance ???01:28
patrick52222drag them into the window i think01:28
polpakBlueHeron, follow the wiki..01:29
^Odd^so does anyone have any idea about what is causeing my agp slot not to work after a fresh ubuntu inastall but the live cd runs it fine?01:29
tonyyarussocorvax: A theme, not the program.01:29
polpakBlueHeron, the drivers tend to be pretty well up to date01:29
corvaxah01:29
corvaxuntar it and then open the theme manager or whatever01:30
redguynazty: vfat doesn't have ownership, does it?01:30
corvaxand point to it01:30
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BlueHeronpolpak: i'm using the fglrx and ic an't do anything i 3ndi t's all very slow01:30
corvaxi forget where the themes a files are located01:30
corvaxyou can move it there01:30
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corvaxthe folder if you want'01:30
polpakredguy, you can specify which uid and gid to use as the owner and group for the files when you mount it01:30
harm_ /j #linuxgaming.net01:31
polpakBlueHeron, what video card, and what app?01:31
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tonyyarussocorvax: Okay, I'll try that.01:31
redguypolpak: that was a rhetorical question :-)01:31
BlueHeronpolpak: ati x700 pro 256MB pci-express and any 3d game like chromium or tuxracer01:31
TheFaction20redguy:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1093601:31
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polpakBlueHeron, what is the output of glxinfo | grep -i direct01:31
redguyTheFaction20: so it's sdc now01:32
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redguyTheFaction20: you should be able to access it01:32
polpakBlueHeron, you don't have the fglrx drivers installed01:32
redguyTheFaction20: provided that you have any partitions on it01:32
BlueHeronpolpak: i'm using them... ??01:32
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budluvahey everyone, just got my ati drivers working...8.16.20, was using "ati" driver before and had beautiful widescreen resolution, but am now stuck at 1024x768, tried editing xorg.conf but still wont let me go into widescreen res....anyone have a work around besides running latest ati drivers?01:33
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Aaron_Mason!mp301:33
ubotu[mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:33
CarlF1where is a description of what "recovery mode" is?01:33
tonyyarussocorvax: I'm not seeing an add option in the login manager part of kcontrol...01:33
TheFaction20redguy: now i get this after01:33
polpak!tell BlueHeron about ati01:33
TheFaction20redguy:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1093801:33
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redguyTheFaction20: hmmm01:34
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redguyTheFaction20: no idea what this means, sorry01:34
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TheFaction20redguy:damn01:35
polpakCarlF1, recovery mode (as in from the grub menu) is just booting to a root prompt01:35
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whnphey anyone got a good resource for making the bcm43xx driver work on breezy?01:35
RemyLaptophi guys, anyone know anything about Enemy Territory ?01:35
Seveaswhnp, yes, it goes like this: 1) upgrade to dapper 2) done01:35
whnpseveas I am on dapper01:36
budluvawhnp, let me know, just got fglrx working on my lappy, broadcom drivers are next for me :p01:36
Seveaswhnp, then why do you ask about breezy?01:36
whnpwhen I upgraded it broke my ndiswrapper setup01:36
patrick52222where can i get an epson stylus photo r300 drivers for ubuntu01:36
whnpSeveas, opps ... sorry01:36
Seveasif you blacklist bcm43xx you can use ndiswrapper01:36
naztyis there a way to reload /etc/ftsab01:36
redguyTheFaction20: sorry have to go to sleep, kindof late in here...01:36
^Odd^does the ubuntu live cd allow you to install the i686 kernel from the cd?01:37
TheFaction20redguy:ok thanks for trying01:37
CarlF1polpak: thanks01:37
Frogzoonazty: reboot01:37
naztyFrogzoo: besides rebooting01:37
HOEHAVERok this really isnt a ubuntu question but it will have to do with it in the end bc im going to have a deul booter and if and one know what room to go to to answer my question that would be great01:37
whnpSeveas, just did a fresh install of flight5 since my interfaces file was borked beyond repair01:37
Frogzoonazty: mount -a01:37
HOEHAVERlol sorry i didnt know it would that long01:37
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HOEHAVERbut yeah heres a link if you can help http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=62603501:37
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redguynazty: unmount /media/200gig && mount -a01:37
whnpSeveas, I am still getting the ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready error01:38
patrick52222where can i get epson stylus photo r300 drivers for ubuntu01:38
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whnpI don't know where to take the debuging from there01:38
TheFaction20can anyone help me getting my western digital external drive to stay active?01:38
Frogzoowhnp: probly google on that error string01:38
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^Odd^so is it possible to install i686 as the kernel from the ubuntu install cd instead of the i386 kernel?01:38
budluvaSeveas, so broadcom drivers work in dapper?01:38
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sredna|konversathow do i get sound in mpeg files in ubuntu (dapper)?01:40
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polpak!tell sredna|konversat  about restricted01:40
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Name141Any idea where I can get (what is equivlent to) drivers, for: NIC: Microsoft PCI Adaptor MN-130 , Printer: Dell Photo Printer 540 , Modem:  56K PCI Voice Modem SF-1156IV R9A01:40
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Prettohi guys01:41
whnpFrogzoo, been there01:41
Prettoi think that someone here could help me installing gaim2.0 beta01:41
whnpand in the ubuntu forums01:41
RemyLaptophi guys, anyone play ET here ?01:41
patrick52222sredna|Konversat join Ubuntu+1 they will help with dapper01:41
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Prettoi got a .deb packcage from a website.. i installed it, but i have problems about ssl to make it work with msn account01:41
TheFaction20Can anyone help me in keeping my western digital external drive recognized?01:42
Prettoanyone could help me?01:42
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sredna|konversatpolpak: well, following those instructions does not work01:42
sredna|konversati installed gstreamer-plugins-ugly, acode-mpeg, restarted arts and the video player, no luck01:42
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sredna|konversatthen i tried the older gstreamer version, no luck either01:42
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polpaksredna|konversat, are you getting any sound to work?01:43
patrick52222sredna|Konversat "  wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb01:43
patrick52222  sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i38"01:43
RemyLaptophey guys, I am trying to run a game that says it requires directx, yet also says it's linux compatible... is there such a thing as linux directx ?01:43
sredna|konversatand all the yelling about restricted formats are nice, but i have to deal with the idiotic real work01:43
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patrick52222sorry for long code01:43
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sredna|konversatpolpak: yes, ogg files works fine01:43
KlownerRemyLaptop: what game?01:43
patrick52222thats the mpeg codes01:43
vladuz976can someone help me connect an i pod so i can use it with gtkpod?01:43
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sredna|konversatKlowner: it does not work, no sound in mpeg files/mp301:43
vladuz976what filesystem do i use to mount the ipod?01:44
SpecialBuddydid the repositories change?01:44
amonkeyis there a program that will let me take a window and put it in the tray?01:44
^Odd^so nobody knows if the ubuntu cd is capable of installing the i686 kernel from the cd at install? as maybe one of the boot options?01:44
tonyyarussoHow to install kdm theme from tarball?  I don't see that option in kcontrol...01:44
polpaksredna|konversat, you need to follow the instructions on the wiki.. It does work, if you install everything it says01:44
patrick52222sredna|Konversat: what are you using to play your files in01:44
rebelguys6!ipod01:44
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto01:44
RemyLaptopKlowner, Enemy Territory01:44
sredna|konversatpolpak: and then do what with that file?01:44
polpaksredna|konversat, which file?01:45
KlownerRemyLaptop: download the linux version, it uses opengl, not directx01:45
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vladuz976rebelguys6: that is what i was following01:45
RemyLaptopKlowner, I have...  when I start the game I can't see anything though...01:45
vladuz976but it's not being mounted01:45
RemyLaptopOnly hear sound01:45
rebelguys6vladuz976, oh ok good01:45
sredna|konversatpolpak: i can't see what i left out01:45
SpecialBuddyare there any examples of how the repositories configuration file should look?01:45
KlownerRemyLaptop: it's probably switching to a refresh rate that your monitor hates01:45
patrick52222sredna|Konversat: what are you using to play your files in01:46
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sredna|konversatwho adviced me to get a deb package?01:46
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: i use kaffeine01:46
RemyLaptopKlowner, probably! (I'm using a laptop...) any idea how to fix it ?01:46
HOEHAVERcan some one help me for real01:46
RemyLaptopseeing as how I can't actually get into the game to change the settings there :-P01:46
Frogzoo!tell RemyLaptop about res01:46
HOEHAVERlike do you know what room atleast to go in to get the help i need01:46
HOEHAVERhttp://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=62603501:46
KlownerRemyLaptop: if you can launch it in windowed mode or something01:46
RemyLaptophm01:46
patrick52222sredna|Konversat:  i think i did not sure01:46
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: what to do with it?01:47
patrick52222run it in the terminal01:47
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vladuz976has anybody here successfully connected and mounted an ipod and is using it with gtkpod? please let me know what the trick is. i don't know what filesystem so specify to mount it. it isnot mounting automatically01:47
JoetheoddIs it possible to schedule a task to begin at a certain time, as a certain user?01:47
patrick52222just paste the code in a termianl and it should install the codes to rum mpegs01:47
FrogzooJoetheodd: -> man cron01:47
Klowneraaaph, crap I gotta run01:48
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: run it?01:48
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sredna|konversat./<ling file name> ?01:48
Amaranthvladuz976: try rhythmbox or banshee01:48
SpecialBuddydid they change the repositories because synaptic is saying there is something wrong with the file?01:48
rebelguys6HOEHAVER, you need to get either MagicISO or Alcohol to burn mdf files01:48
connif dmesg reports "Hyper-Threading is disabled", does that imply the processor supports HT? I have a Dell system and I see no BIOS option to enable HT, can I force it to be enabled under linux?01:48
polpaksredna|konversat, sudo dpkg -i file.deb01:48
connif dmesg reports "Hyper-Threading is disabled", does that imply the processor supports HT? I have a Dell system and I see no BIOS option to enable HT, can I force it to be enabled under linux?01:48
vladuz976Amaranth: i tried banshee, how do you make banshee show the ipod?01:48
JoetheoddFrogzoo: Thanks. Is cron running by default in warty?01:49
connsorry for the double post :(01:49
HOEHAVERthanks man for real01:49
HOEHAVERyou have helped alot01:49
rebelguys6good luck :)01:49
Amaranthvladuz976: it should have just showed up01:49
vladuz976Amaranth: it's not01:49
dj-fucron does run by default yea01:49
patrick52222sredna|Konversat:  just paste the commands from here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10939 ina terminal01:49
Amaranthvladuz976: sorry, i dunno what else to do as i don't have an ipod01:49
BlueHeron!ati01:49
ubotuati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358901:49
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: sure, did that01:49
patrick52222then it should work01:50
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sredna|konversati still have no sound though01:50
purple^hazewhats a good newsgroups client software ?01:50
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sredna|konversatsigh01:50
sredna|konversatdoes anyone know a working distro?01:51
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av8how can i change the looks of ubuntu to look like kde ?01:51
djk_sredna|konversat: debian, gentoo :)01:51
sredna|konversatthat does not require me to compile everything?01:51
patrick52222sredna|Konversat:  can you see the movie01:51
dj-fuubuntu, sredna|konversat :] 01:51
rebelguys6fedora sredna|konversat01:51
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: sure01:51
rebelguys6:/01:51
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rebelguys6av8, why not just download kde? :)01:51
av8from where?01:51
riddleboxI just did like 37 updates to my pc and now the second user I have on the machine cannot login to gnome, I can log into the failsafe console  but nothin that involves gnome, once I am in on the failsafe console I can call gui apps and they work?01:51
patrick52222sredna|Konversat:  have you tried to run it in another media player01:51
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sredna|konversati did try rpm based distros some years ago01:51
purple^hazewhats a good newsgroups client software ?01:52
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: amarok can't play mp3 files either01:52
dj-fupan01:52
av8rebelguy i m kinda new to this01:52
dj-fuamarok is b0rked01:52
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: that is about what i have i believe01:52
rebelguys6!tell av8 about kde01:52
djk_dj-fu: b0rked?01:52
dj-fuyep01:52
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dj-fuI couldn't get it to output sound, on dapper anyway01:52
djk_dj-fu: meaning 'the greatest app ever'? ;)01:53
dj-fusif01:53
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dj-furiddimbox pisses on it01:53
patrick52222sredna|Konversat:   have you enable the universe and multiverse repositories01:53
djk_lol, sure.01:53
ab0rtedusing ubuntu makes u look sexy01:53
dj-fuonly if you have xgl & compiz01:54
dj-fu;] 01:54
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ab0rtedlol01:54
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JoetheoddHow do I change my console text editor from vi to pico?01:54
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fiendskull9how do i run shell scripts?01:54
dj-fuJoetheodd, `pico file` instead of `vi file`01:54
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dj-fufiendskull9, chmod +x script && ./script01:54
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: i enabled universe + the corresponding source ones, which is what the wiki page said to do01:54
Joetheodddj-fu I need to change it for things like crontab -e01:54
dj-fuThe -e option is used to edit the  current  crontab  using  the  editor01:55
dj-fu       specified  by  the  VISUAL  or EDITOR environment variables.01:55
dj-fuman page ftw01:55
sredna|konversatartsplay can play them01:55
sredna|konversatinterresting01:55
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patrick52222sredna|Konversat:  ok, what are you running KDE or Gnome01:55
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: kde01:56
dj-fuJoetheodd, if neither of $VISUAL or $EDITOR are defined, it uses /usr/bin/editor.01:56
dj-fulrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2006-03-23 01:40 /usr/bin/editor -> /etc/alternatives/editor01:56
dj-fuwhich is of course VIM by default01:56
Joetheodddj-fu how do I set $EDITOR to /usr/bin/pico?01:56
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dj-fuexport EDITOR=/usr/bin/pico01:56
dj-fucrontab -e01:56
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purple^hazeanybody know any good newsgroups client ?01:57
TheFaction20can someone help me getting my external drive to say active?01:57
fiendskull9whats the command to remove a folder01:57
dj-fuor `EDITOR=/usr/bin/pico crontab -e`01:57
rebelguys6fiendskull9, rmdir01:57
dj-fufiendskull9, rm -rf <dir>01:57
ifrHi, Y'all compiling question: I am patching a kernel and need to add a patch to the source following steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 I need to add the patch at some point. Is it as simple as unzipping the source linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 then doing patch -p0 < patch.file then make oldconfig and so on?01:57
patrick52222sredna|Konversat:  have you installed the akode-mpeg package for amarok mp3 problem01:57
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rebelguys6rm -rf is dangerous tho fiendskull901:57
dj-fuifr, yes, it's as simple as doing that.01:57
ifrdj-fu, thanks01:57
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sredna|konversatpatrick52222: i installed what looked most like that01:57
fiendskull9rebelguys6, thanks for telling me after i ran the command :D01:57
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rebelguys6:/01:58
dj-fuifr, if the .patch file was generated in the the directory that is created when you intar linux-source, of course01:58
sredna|konversatthe name wasn't exact01:58
polpakrebelguys6, sudo rm -rf is more dangerous =p01:58
rebelguys6that's true01:58
dj-fuIt's not really dangerous, only if you use it unwisely01:58
IamEthoshey01:58
zyellowman2where can i get PS/2 mouse drivers, my mouse has slow response time01:58
dj-fulike, rm -rf /* instead of rm -rf ./*01:58
ifrdj-fu when you say generated you mean I copied that file into the same directory as the linux-source?01:58
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RemyLaptop!opengl01:58
ubotuRemyLaptop: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:58
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rebelguys6dj-fu, that's right, rmdir is completely benign though, much safer01:58
polpakRemyLaptop, what's the question?01:58
dj-fuifr, yes, the patch file may have been made on the directory up or down from the untar directory, you may need to try patch -p1, p0 etc.01:58
bryanubuntu-es  please01:59
IamEthosis there anyway for my workspaces to only show icons on the desktop they were created on?01:59
RemyLaptophey friendly ubuntuers, would anyone have any great insights into how I can check whether I have opengl drivers installed?01:59
bryanin  spanish01:59
patrick52222sredna|Konversat: sorry i cant help you any more as im use to Gnome and i only know a little about KDE01:59
JoetheoddWill cron run for root as well?01:59
ifrI see. Many thanks dj-fu. You say it's relatively painless?01:59
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dj-fuifr, relatively01:59
polpakRemyLaptop, glxinfo | grep direct01:59
ifr:)01:59
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ifrthanks much. Wish me luck...01:59
Joetheodddj-fu, Thanks man, vim was really confusing =p01:59
dj-fuRemyLaptop, `glxinfo`01:59
polpakRemyLaptop, will tell you if you have 3d accelleration01:59
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: mp3 support isn't related to the toolkit of your apps01:59
dj-fuJoetheodd, hehe :)01:59
zyellowman2anyone know where i can get PS/2 Mouse drivers?01:59
bryanhabla algien espaol???01:59
IamEthosanyone?01:59
dj-fu!es01:59
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:59
TheFaction20does anyone have a usb drive working?01:59
dj-fuTheFaction20, yes02:00
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RemyLaptoppolpak it came back: "direct rendering: yes"02:00
zyellowman2Hablo un poco02:00
dj-fuiPod works too02:00
IamEthosalso, window managers... what the heck is going on?02:00
bryangracias02:00
polpakRemyLaptop, then you have 3d accellerated drivers02:00
bryanbye02:00
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RemyLaptopthanks :)02:00
TheFaction20dj-fu:did you have to do anything special to keep it functioning? because my usb drive will be recognized then seem to disconnect02:00
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polpakRemyLaptop, bust out the warcraft3, and ut2004 =p02:00
IamEthoswhat is the default window manager? I see a lot of utilities for window maker... should I use that?02:00
IamEthosI installed wmaker from synaptic02:01
dj-fuIamEthos, gdm ships by default with ubuntu02:01
dj-futhe gnome desktop02:01
IamEthosnot sure if that was intelligent02:01
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patrick52222sredna|Konversat: im getting all my info from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and you have tried it all ant you02:01
dj-fuTheFaction20, no, works fine02:01
rebelguys6TheFaction20, you might want to try 'dmesg' to see if there are any errors02:01
RemyLaptoppolpak, are they free?02:01
rishiheloooo02:01
RemyLaptop:)02:01
RemyLaptopET is ;-)02:01
IamEthosdj-fu: is Window Maker better/worse?02:01
rishiCan i Use easyubuntu in dapper?02:01
dj-fuA whole crapload worse02:01
polpakRemyLaptop, they're free as in I already payed for them... ;p02:01
dj-fuunless you really like it over GDM02:02
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RemyLaptopactually, I think I have wc3 somewhere, windows version though...02:02
IamEthosdj-fu: is anything better?02:02
polpakRemyLaptop, works great with wine02:02
TheFaction20rebelguys6:can u decipher what i get if i put it on pastebin?02:02
IamEthosI'm not sure what to look for in these things?02:02
RemyLaptopcool02:02
dj-fuIamEthos, gnome, kde?02:02
dj-futhose are the major ones02:02
RemyLaptopif I get really desperate I'll go find it :)02:02
dj-fueven xfce402:02
rebelguys6TheFaction20, yeah go for it02:02
rebelguys6well maybe :)02:02
IamEthoshow does kde stackup to gnome?02:03
dj-fuI like Gnome, the localisation support is excellent02:03
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rishii like gnome02:03
dj-fuPersonal opinion, IamEthos - both do nearly the same thing02:03
rebelguys6http://www.google.com/search?q=kde+vs+gnome02:03
rishihaha02:03
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IamEthosisn't Kubuntu just a KDE-default Ubuntu?02:03
sredna|konversatpatrick52222: thanks for your help anyways ;)02:03
IamEthosor am I confused...02:03
rebelguys6IamEthos, yes02:03
polpakIamEthos, yes it is02:03
IamEthosdo I need to install that to use kde?02:04
rishiDoes anyone know if easy ubuntu will work with Dapper?02:04
rebelguys6IamEthos, no02:04
patrick52222no problem i hope you get it sorted02:04
rishii asked the other channel but no one is answering02:04
nikihi, i got sound working in almost every game, but not in chromium.....i pasted my chromium config file, can someone look at it and tell me if i need to change something?  its pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1094002:04
rebelguys6!tell IamEthos about kde02:04
RemyLaptopis there any way to check the video specs of my laptop ?02:04
rebelguys6:D02:04
TheFaction20rebelguys6:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1094102:04
dj-fuhttp://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=kde&word2=gnome02:04
dj-fu;'(02:04
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dj-fukde wins ;'(02:04
RemyLaptopsomething like the "system" window in windows?02:04
patrick52222but you should trie the #ubuntu+1 channel they might be able to help02:04
IamEthoscan both be installed at the same time?02:04
VRWarperof course kde wins ;)02:04
IamEthosand just used seperately?02:04
rebelguys6yes IamEthos02:04
djk_dj-fu: the better always wins.02:04
dj-fudjk_, get stuffed ;P02:05
rebelguys6yeah you choose which one you want when you login02:05
djk_dj-fu: even wmii owns gnome ;)02:05
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rishiRemyLaptop: try the device manager under system02:05
IamEthosaah02:05
jadaz87hello everyone i had a question about the w32 codecs i was wondering hwo do i install them02:05
dj-fumore hits on google = more people complaining, and I quote, "omg, kde is so buggy and sucky"02:05
IamEthosI have Linux installed on a 5gb drive02:05
VRWarperor more people praising02:05
rebelguys6TheFaction20,does your drive use an external power adapter?02:05
VRWarper:] 02:05
VRWarperor more people posting about new features02:05
IamEthosis adding both to play around with for a bit going to cause problems?02:05
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TheFaction20rebelguys6:yes02:06
SpecialBuddycan anyone help me out with getting synaptic to work02:06
VRWarpersure kde may not be as rock solid as gnome02:06
VRWarperbut then again..02:06
VRWarperim using xgl and compiz02:06
dj-fusynaptic works out of the box02:06
dj-fu;P02:06
VRWarperso...02:06
SpecialBuddyno02:06
djk_VRWarper: most likely. what would there be to post about gnome ;)02:06
dj-fu*cough* kde-window-decorator02:06
VRWarperstability isnt exactly on my... top prority list02:06
SpecialBuddyI'm having repositories problems02:06
SpecialBuddydid they change or something?02:06
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IamEthosand will I need to reinstall software (or install new software to work with KDE?)02:06
void^i have 2 small external power supplies for harddisks, and they're both crap. :)02:06
VRWarperbah, thats only because the guy at novell uses gnome02:06
VRWarper>:|02:06
polpakSpecialBuddy, define "problems"02:06
VRWarperlook at composite02:06
dj-fuVRWarper, what's because it's better :p02:06
VRWarperkde has a rock solid composite manager02:07
VRWarperand what does gnome have?02:07
dj-fu#ubuntu-offtopic to continue this discussion02:07
SpecialBuddywell it's not accepting what I have so is there an example somewhere that I can copy02:07
polpakIamEthos, you don't need to reinstall anything, gnome apps work in kde, and kde apps work in gnome02:07
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polpak!sources02:07
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:07
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dj-fu!easysource is good02:07
ubotu...but easysource is already something else...02:07
dj-fu;[02:07
IamEthosI see02:07
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IamEthossorry about all of these trivial questions02:08
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polpakIamEthos, I'm more sorry for the trivial answers.. ;p02:08
CSWookieDoes the ubuntu live CD come with Gnucash?02:08
ifrdj-fu, one more question before I do this: does running  sudo dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.10-custom_10.00.Custom_i386.deb automatically update grub so I can reboot and select the standard or custom kernel - provided I don't remove the original?02:08
IamEthosI'm considering switching to linux on a more permanent basis02:08
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jadaz87does anyone know how to install the w32 codex so i can play the nonfree codec formats?02:08
BlueHeron!ati02:08
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358902:08
IamEthosand I want to know everything I need to before I make a decision02:08
ifrIamEthos good on ya02:08
dj-fuifr, Not sure - You may want to rerun grub-install02:08
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IamEthoshow about Pocket PC support?02:08
dj-fudj-fu, and/or manually edit the grub file - I hope it would configure it automagically, though02:08
ifrthanks, is that just sudo grub-install ?02:08
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polpakIamEthos, I made the switch 6 months ago.. Haven't looked back02:09
IamEthosdoes it exist?02:09
dj-fuifr, yes02:09
tristilAnyone tracking Dapper have really diminished sound output?02:09
dj-fupocket pc works02:09
jadaz87dj-fu how do you get Pocket PC to work on ubuntu?02:09
sredna|konversatnot working02:10
dj-fuwell, works on dapper ;[02:10
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rebelguys6TheFaction20, well, i don't know for sure02:10
dj-fumy palm works anyway02:10
rishitristil: i don't think i have any problems with sound02:10
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SpecialBuddyIs dapper drake coming out soon02:11
polpak!dapper02:11
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)02:11
patrick52222june02:11
jadaz87dj-fu whould you be able to tell me how to install the w32 codecs so i can play non free formats on ubuntu?02:11
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rebelguys6TheFaction20, it maybe that your drive doesn't have complete linux support02:11
polpak!tell jadaz87 about restricted02:11
patrick52222https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:11
MrRioanyone got a usb headset?02:11
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tristilrishi, It started after last reboot. Well, I'll reboot and see if it's a fluke.02:11
dj-fujadaz87, if you read that link that patrick52222 just posted, it details how to do it02:11
tristanmikeMrRio: I got a PS2 usb headset that works fine02:11
XVampireXMission Impossible02:11
TheFaction20rebelguys6:lovely.....02:12
rebelguys6TheFaction20, its a SATA drive in an external enclosure... right?02:12
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MrRiotristanmike: know anywhere i can find a list of headsets supported under ubuntu/linux02:12
ifrGreat. dj-fu, Manually, I'll be editing /boot/grub/menu.lst to see if it's in? Anm I looking in the automaiz section?>I guess I mean< how can I be sure that my custom will appear as an option in grub manually before rebooting?02:12
tristanmikeMrRio: i have no idea, it took me a bit to set it up here with teamspeak02:12
TheFaction20rebelguys6:no its a western digital mybook essential ehd02:13
Sergi0XVampireX, u got any step ahead?02:13
tristanmikeMrRio: what are you trying to use it with ?02:13
XVampireXSergi0, nope02:13
ifrdj-fu sorry: s/automaiz/automagic02:13
BlueHeron!ati02:13
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358902:13
dj-fuifr, just search down for kernel lines, you should be able to see it, alternatively check your /boot folder for the image names etc and check if they appear in the menu02:13
MrRiotristanmike: ekiga02:13
XVampireXI tried everything02:13
ifrAhhh.02:13
Leotoothpickhey anybody can gimme a hand here everytime i open synaptic i get this warning:02:13
Leotoothpick W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:13
LeotoothpickW: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:13
ifrGotchya. Thanks!02:13
MrRiotristanmike: aka. GnomeMeeting02:13
XVampireXI posted on the forums02:14
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patrick52222leotoothpick: iv you post it on here we can see it more clearly http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/02:15
tristanmikeMrRio: hmm, I had to change my settings to use /dev/dsp102:15
XVampireXI posted some more info on the forum02:15
Toma-patrick52222: flooded off. lawl!02:15
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aduckielollolol02:15
XVampireXhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15136302:15
RemyLaptopGuys, I've just installed new drivers for my intel chipset, how do I install them ?02:15
MrRiotristanmike: i havn't bought a headset yet, was looking for a way to save myself some pain and get the right one02:15
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rebelguys6TheFaction20, well, i'm sorry, i don't know for sure02:15
Toma-RemyLaptop: you just did. :D02:16
XVampireX:P02:16
rebelguys6TheFaction20, you may want to try again when dapper comes out :/02:16
RemyLaptoprofl02:16
RemyLaptopmake that "downloaded"02:16
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RemyLaptop:D02:16
Toma-ahh ok :)02:16
revolutionaryhey02:16
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j2daoshanyone in here know how to encode a movie file from .ogm to .iso?02:16
Toma-RemyLaptop: if i were you, id get ndisgtk. its an awesome frontend to ndiswrapper that makes loading/swaping drivers a snap02:17
TheFaction20rebelguys6:yah too bad thats a couple months away02:17
tristanmikeMrRio: oh, I would think they should pretty much work, it's just a simple mic and speaker in one, mine is for the PS2 and it works02:17
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Toma-j2daosh: iso isnt a video format02:17
Toma-j2daosh: you want a vcd or dvd?02:17
j2daoshi want to burn it to a dvd from .ogm02:17
biovoreiso is a filesystem02:17
nickrudLeotoothpick, welcome back, and try hitting the reload button on synaptic as a first step :)02:17
RemyLaptopToma, I've installed it, how do i run it?02:17
revolutionaryanyone know how to grab(capture) the audio of a streaming realplayer file? do i just need to use jack and a recorder like audacity or gnome sound recorder?02:17
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RemyLaptopls02:18
corvaxxvampirex ypu cant eject the cd?02:18
Toma-RemyLaptop: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper02:18
RemyLaptopToma, what do those commands do ?02:18
corvaxdid i read that correctly?02:18
Toma-j2daosh: youll need a dvdauthoring program like qdvdauthor02:18
XVampireXcorvax: No02:18
Toma-RemyLaptop: unloads ndiswrapper and starts it up again with the new driver02:18
RemyLaptopahk02:18
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XVampireXcorvax: Yes you did read it correctly02:19
corvaxwhy cant you eject it?02:19
XVampireXI can eject it, just not during the setup02:19
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Toma-RemyLaptop: very good questioning the sudo commands :) something everyone should do02:19
RemyLaptopToma, I get: ERROR: Module ndiswrapper doesnot exist in /proc/modules02:19
RemyLaptopwhen trying to run the first one :)02:19
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RemyLaptopToma, I've buggered enough things up with random sudo commands in the past ;)02:19
Toma-RemyLaptop: ahh. did you use ndiswrapper for the drivers before?02:20
XVampireXI tried partitioning in every way, tried everything....02:20
RemyLaptopToma, I've never installed any drivers...02:20
corvaxi dont know why youd need to eject it02:20
RemyLaptopit's all running off the ubuntu defaults02:20
Toma-RemyLaptop: i c02:20
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Toma-might wanna read !ndiswrapper02:20
corvaxbut ddid you check the cdroms md502:20
corvax?02:20
RemyLaptopk02:20
Toma-ubotu: tell RemyLaptop about ndiswrapper02:20
amorphous_I have a nightmare to solve - any takers?02:20
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kaiCan anyone help me with the installation of the new Nvidia drivers02:21
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rishi!ndiswrapper02:21
ubotumethinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper02:21
amorphous_(it could be a really simple nightmare...02:21
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Toma-ahhhh wait RemyLaptop. im an idiot.02:21
tristanmike!nvidia02:21
ubotuI guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736802:21
XVampireXcorvax, I didn't02:21
batmananyone know if its possible to install fluxbox for the desktop environment?02:21
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Toma-RemyLaptop: when you say intel chipset drivers, i assumed u ment wireless card.02:21
kaiya but the precompiled headers arnt there02:21
corvaxwell restart the install02:21
Toma-RemyLaptop: what are these drivers for exactly? :D02:21
corvaxthen  check the integrity of the disk02:21
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XVampireXThere was no such option for md502:21
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RemyLaptopToma, video02:22
RemyLaptop:D02:22
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ProhibitedHey, can anyone help me out.  I run a DigiChat server and some script kiddies keep flooding my chat with exploits. I need to ban a few ISP's from DigiChat's port...can anyone recommend a good firewall that will allow me to do this?02:22
Toma-RemyLaptop: ok. forget all the ndiswrapper stuff.02:22
RemyLaptop:D02:22
Toma- :|02:22
RemyLaptopit's ok02:22
Toma-hey, its 8:22am here02:22
RemyLaptopthe drivers seem to come with some sort of installation...02:22
RemyLaptopI'll rofl, practically dawn !02:22
Misnixbatman, fluxbox is in the repositories02:22
amorphous_Does anybody have the same problem? I have (on every ubuntu installation so far - on numerous different machines... had random (and unreadable) mouse pointers... is this common?02:22
Sergi0corvax: XvampireX has the ship-it cd, should be fine i guess02:23
Toma-RemyLaptop: youll probably need "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" to compile them02:23
lwizardlhi02:23
batmanMisnix, think i could use the graphical ndiswrapper on gnome then install fluxbux and the wifi work still?02:23
XVampireXYeah, should be fine... most likely my CDrom02:23
Sergi0could be02:23
j2daoshi got dvdauthor but it wont recognize the .ogm format... what program do i use to encode from .ogm to .mpeg/.avi?02:23
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Toma-j2daosh: mencoder02:23
amorphous_anyone?02:23
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Toma-j2daosh: have you installed transcode? qdvdauthor should be able to use ogm..02:24
Misnixbatman,  no idea, I use utp cables :-)02:24
corvaxsergio NO02:24
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amorphous_am i the only person in the world that gets messed up mouse pointers????  constantly???02:24
biovorefrom ogm to avi?02:24
biovorewhy?02:24
j2daoshno i dont even know what transcode is02:24
batmanMisnix, bleh i'll just attempt it i guess >.< hehe02:24
corvaxive heard alot of people whove gotten bad ship it cd's02:24
amorphous_on four/five different machines?02:24
XVampireXSo what am I supposed to do?02:24
amorphous_please???02:24
biovoreDVD to ogm?02:24
j2daoshbecause dvd author dont see .ogm files on my comp02:24
j2daoshno other way around02:25
j2daoshogm to dvd02:25
amorphous_i've hunted it on google loads... but no joy whatsoever02:25
Toma-j2daosh: avidemux will change it02:25
Toma-its a frontend to mencoder02:25
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amorphous_and am getting really pi***d off with not being able to see what I'm pointing at...02:25
corvaxin the install menu02:25
j2daoshby frontend u mean graphical?02:25
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corvaxyoull see check integrity of disk02:25
corvaxchoose it02:26
XVampireXI don't see that option02:26
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amorphous_and it's not the best of adverts for visitors checking out my ubuntu box!02:26
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XVampireXWhere exactly?02:26
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amorphous_anyone? please?02:26
j2daoshtoma... so if i install transcode dvd author will recognize the .ogm file?02:26
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corvaxheh im going to have to brak out a disk to go along02:26
corvaxwith yA02:27
XVampireXbrak?02:27
Toma-amorphous_: how do you mean "messed up"?02:27
Toma-j2daosh: lets hope so. also get mencoder02:27
biovoremencoder will do DVD to avi then you can go to mkv or ogm from there02:27
corvaxor02:28
biovoreworks well for that02:28
Toma-j2daosh: i havent used ogm before, but since its a free format, transcode and mencoder should be able to support it02:28
corvaxyou can even check it from windows02:28
corvaxtoo02:28
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TheFaction20im trying to get the usb driver located here ---->http://www2.one-eyed-alien.net/~mdharm/linux-usb/    yet idk how i should go about getting it02:28
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Toma-biovore: hes going from ogm to dvd.02:28
amorphous_just random graphics - loks like it could be a tyremark... there seems to be no order to it02:28
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amorphous_it's just a square mess, Toma-02:28
biovorewell dvd is mepg1..  the main problems is vob container02:28
Toma-amorphous_: thats just the mouse pointer?02:28
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polpakwb niki02:29
void^TheFaction20: that's what the kernel uses02:29
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ProhibitedHey guys, I need to ban a few ISP's (eg. shawcable) from a server a run on, does anyone know any good firewalls that can let me do this? When I was using Windows to host the server, there was a program called "BlackIce", I need a firewall like that...02:29
j2daoshso how do i do it without trouble then bio02:29
j2daosh?02:29
Toma-biovore: hence the dvdauthor :) without it you have no menu02:29
nikipolpak, thanks...check this out...when i launch chromium from term, sound works...when i launch it from gnome menu, it doesn't...what gives?02:29
TheFaction20void^:mean the kernel already has that driver?02:29
Toma-Prohibited: firestarter02:29
taskhelp!02:29
taskmy cursor is gone!02:29
task:(02:29
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polpakniki, check the launcher that the menu is using, what args (if any) does it pass?02:30
void^TheFaction20: not only are a few kernel devs listed on that page, it notes "The source code is provided with the standard linux kernel distribution"02:30
XVampireXcorvax: check pm02:30
Toma-amorphous_: can you plz run "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"02:30
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amorphous_yeah - only the mouse pointer, Toma-  - and sometimes it's ok in some states (ie eggtimer sometimes... standard arrow poiter other times, but always most states are just a square mess02:30
ProhibitedToma, how do I start firestarter up by SSH and add ips though?02:30
nikipolpak, i'm new with gnome...how do i check?02:30
task:(02:30
taskmy cursor is gone!02:30
TheFaction20void^: o cuz im trying to get a mass storage device to work02:30
Toma-Prohibited: youll need X tunneling, as its a gui...02:30
polpakniki, right click and add the launcher to the desktop02:31
void^TheFaction20: try rmmod ehci-hcd, see if it works better (just slow)02:31
KriticalWith a proxy server... is the client computer restricted in any way?02:31
Toma-Prohibited: i dont actually use it, but its a pretty tight firewall02:31
void^TheFaction20: (disconnect before rmmod)02:31
polpakniki, then you can right click it on the desktop and go to properties02:31
j2daoshis there a graphical one?02:31
ProhibitedI can't use that. (It takes up more resources, and DC + the amount of users  I get.. that will be laggy and crash DC)02:31
Toma-j2daosh: one of what?02:31
polpakniki, go to the launcher tab02:31
taskis there a way for bringing back my cursor?! :(02:31
nikipolpak, the command is just the same as i send from term, : chromium02:31
j2daoshencoder/decoder... i dont know what option im supposed to chose from the transcode thing02:32
Toma-Prohibited: well you can add iptables settings from command line... the kernel has a builtin firewall called iptables02:32
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corvaxpress f102:32
nikipolpak, could it be the permissions?02:32
Toma-j2daosh: qdvdauthor has it built in02:32
nikipolpak, nevermind...just checked, its not :P02:32
Toma-!iptables02:32
polpakhrm... it could be, but in both cases it'd be running as your user02:32
ProhibitedOkay thanks. :-)02:32
TheFaction20void^:it says its not permitted02:32
amorphous_Toma-, (EE) MGA: Failed to load module "mga_hal" (module does not exist. 0)02:32
void^TheFaction20: ... add a sudo before the command02:32
j2daoshbut dvd author dont recognize .ogm files..... thats what i need to change the movie from02:32
Toma-amorphous_: interesting...02:33
void^mga_hal is required for 3d accel only, provided with matrox' binary drivers02:33
amorphous_Toma-, yeah02:33
amorphous_?02:33
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PuMphi everyone02:33
amorphous_could this be another shipping issue?02:33
TheFaction20void^:nothing....02:33
polpakniki, it must be something with your environment variables or some such02:33
PuMpit's me again02:34
amorphous_I've installed on a few machines, Toma-02:34
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void^TheFaction20: now connect the device and see what it does.02:34
Toma-amorphous_: possibly a bad install of the mouse graphic02:34
Toma-amorphous_: same media?02:34
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nikipolpak, any idea what i should read or look at?02:34
amorphous_Toma-, on 5 separate machines?02:34
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polpakniki, as a workaround you could make a bash script in your ~/bin directory that just runs the chromium command, then point the launcher at that02:34
PuMpI've installed flight 5, but i have a problem with the screen resolution02:34
nikipolpak, i've never written a script before...02:34
amorphous_4 from a hoary shipped disk, but the latest from a d/loaded breezy disk????02:35
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Toma-!find ogmtools02:35
polpakniki, I'll pastebin it for you02:35
ubotuogmtools: (Tools for manipulating Ogg multimedia streams), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:1.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 160 kB, Installed size: 468 kB02:35
amorphous_Toma-, 4 from a hoary shipped disk, but the latest from a d/loaded breezy disk????02:35
jd_re. lirc sous dapper, a parle  quelqu'un ?02:35
Toma-j2daosh: there you go02:35
Toma-grab that package02:35
nikipolpak, thanks!02:35
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Toma-amorphous_: all different installs?!02:35
XVampireXHere's another person having the same problems02:35
XVampireXhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initrd-tools/+bug/3162702:35
amorphous_Toma-, any idea how I load them up? it's not a file i can apt-get :(02:35
amorphous_Toma-, yes!02:36
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amorphous_Toma-, that's why I'm so stumped with it02:36
lampshadeI recently uninstalled laptop-mode and installed laptop-mode-tools in an attempt at getting better power management, well, in the process I took out my ability to hibernate, etc, does anyone know what package I need to reinstall that laptop-mode took with it so I can get hibernation back?  Is anyone with a laptop here brave enough to apt-get remove laptop-mode but then just cancel it but give me the names of the packages it will also be02:36
lampshade removing?02:36
amorphous_I've upgraded aswell02:36
Toma-amorphous_: are all these machines equipped with a matrox card?02:36
amorphous_Toma-, and different machines02:36
amorphous_Toma-, yes02:36
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amorphous_Toma-, i think they have been02:36
polpakniki, http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=626127, save that as something like start_chromium.sh02:36
corvaxits eaither a bad cd or a bad cdrom02:36
PuMpI've just installed flight 5, on the gnome panel i can only select 1280*1024, though i selected other modes on the xorg.conf. Any idea?02:37
Toma-amorphous_: i dare say there is the achilles heel of the problem...02:37
amorphous_Toma-, impressive shot!!!!02:37
corvaxwe want to find out02:37
JayBachateroHello.02:37
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Toma-amorphous_: lets see what google has to say. brb02:37
amorphous_tom - i felt the rush of success as it came up on my screen...02:37
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TheFaction20void^:nothing02:37
corvaxxvampirex what os are you in right now02:37
XVampireXAnother one: http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2005/10/msg00035.html02:37
XVampireXLive CD ubuntu02:38
JayBachateroI tried to install Fedora Core 5 and it messed up my GRUB.02:38
corvaxah02:38
corvaxok02:38
PuMpthis is ubuntu support02:38
void^TheFaction20: similar errors in dmesg?02:38
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TheFaction20void^:actually says ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo rmmod ehci-hcd02:38
TheFaction20ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules02:38
JayBachateroI know it's Ubuntu.02:38
JayBachateroI want my Ubuntu back.02:38
XVampireXso what am I supposed to do?!02:38
JayBachateroI checked everything and all my Ubuntu stuff is there.02:39
Toma-amorphous_: using pastebin, can you put up a copy of your xorg.conf file?02:39
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Toma-ubotu tell amorphous_ about pastebin02:39
ifranyone know where I can get Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?02:39
PuMpwhat problem does amorphous_ have?02:39
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ian_!format02:39
ubotuian_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:39
ian_!formatting02:39
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ian_02:39
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polpakniki, then put it in your bin directory under home and chmod +x the file02:40
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ifr!kernel02:40
lampshadeAny brave souls?02:40
Toma-PuMp: mouse pointer is garbage. suspect it is the video driver as hes installed on all sorts of different machines but theyve all got matrox's02:40
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ifrWhere I can get Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?02:40
ian_Anyone able to walk me through formatting my second HD (which has XP on it)?  I want to be rid of XP permanently...02:40
LeotoothpickW: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:40
polpakniki, then you can change your launcher using the Applications->System Tools->Applications Menu Editor02:40
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Leotoothpickanybody know why i keep getting this warning02:40
Leotoothpickafter i open synaptic02:40
liableLeotoothpick: run update again02:41
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TheFaction20void^:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1094302:41
Toma-ian_: do you know what /dev entry it has?02:41
useruserian_: do you know the device name02:41
nikipolpak, doing all that now :)02:41
TheFaction20void^:its what i get under usb when i do dmesg02:41
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ifrLeotoothpick because the listing in /etc/apt/sources.list needs to be checked for typos then run sudo apt-get update02:41
LinuxJonesAnybody know offhand how to get spell checking working in gnome apps by default ?02:41
ian_Toma- and useruser: You mean like "Maxtor Blah Blah"?02:41
ifrGoing thrice: Where I can get Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?02:41
PuMpI have a problem with the screen resolution and gnome02:41
nikipolpak, didn't work :(02:41
Toma-ian_: no, like /dev/hdb02:42
PuMpcan anybody please help me?02:42
useruserian_: no, like in the output of the command dmesg|grep hd[a-f] 02:42
nikipolpak, still no sound02:42
soundmaster80i have a network question02:42
ifrPuMp what is the problem?02:42
PuMpi can only select 1280x102402:42
polpakniki, that is most peculiar.. but you say it does work when you run it from a terminal?02:42
liable!packages02:42
ubotu[packages]  You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com .  It also has a nifty file search feature.02:42
PuMpthough i add several modes in the xorg.conf02:42
liableifr: ^^02:42
ifrYou want higher or lowes?02:42
Toma-ubotu tell PuMp about fixres02:42
corvaxvampire  i think its under f102:42
PuMplowe02:42
soundmaster80i have dual nics on my motherboard, both are enabled with dhcp...can this cause problems browsing the internet?02:42
corvaxwhen you boot02:42
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ian_Toma- I'm a total n00b.  I do have an icon for it in Place> Computer....I think.02:42
corvaxthere are more options02:42
nikipolpak, yeah...i just double checked to make sure, sound still works fine if i run it from term02:43
Toma-ian_: whats the icon called?02:43
corvaxand one is to check disk02:43
toujidoes ne1 know a gif making program?02:43
toujifor linux02:43
polpakniki, I've never heard of that before02:43
JayBachateroI tried to install Fedora Core 5 and it messed up my GRUB.  I had Ubuntu 5.10 to start with but now Ubuntu is not on the list.  I tried editing FC5's grub to load Ubuntu but it wont load.  I tried grub-install /dev/hda but didn't fix the partitions.02:43
userusertouji: doesn't the gimp do it nowadays?02:43
void^TheFaction20: ok, it seems it's not a problem with the usb driver.. does the device usually work, on windows or other pcs?02:43
ian_Toma- Floppy1...02:43
PuMpwhen it loads it uses 1280x1024 too02:43
Toma-touji: gimp is a fully featured one...02:43
nickrudLinuxJones, I think it's gnome-spell02:43
XVampireXI checked under f1, there was only help index02:43
Toma-ian_: thats not the windows drive.02:43
ifrPuMp you need to look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and search for the monitor section; there you will find resolution settings. If it doesn't have lower resolutions you can re-run the xorg config script....one sec02:43
useruserian_: load a terminal and type dmesg|grep hd[a-f]  into it and press enter02:44
PuMpi did that already02:44
corvaxyes02:44
toujiill look around gimp for a while02:44
TheFaction20void^:yes it does work fine on windows02:44
PuMpdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:44
ian_useruser- Ok, hold on a sec, plz.02:44
corvaxit tells you what to inter02:44
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corvaxenter02:44
corvaxugh ill have to find the command02:44
XVampireXok02:44
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XVampireXBut how would it help me?02:44
jilocasinevening all02:44
LinuxJonesnickrud: yeah it's installed but I don't know how to enable it :D02:44
jilocasincan anyone point me in the correct direction to securely delete files in linux?02:45
void^TheFaction20: did you actually power off the device before the last test?02:45
XVampireXI'll try it again and I'll be right back unless it somehow performs a miracle and it starts working02:45
useruserjilocasin: try shred02:45
XVampireXbrb02:45
ifrThat;s it PuMp02:45
TheFaction20void^:yes02:45
amorphous_Toma-, pasted - under amorphous02:45
ifrIt didn't take?02:45
useruserjilocasin: although the standard response is to vaporize the hard disk drive :)02:45
ian_useruser- No resonse.  Just an identicle command line opening below it.02:45
nickrudLinuxJones, I think you need to do it on a per app basis, and while you're at it, how about a plugin for xchat :)02:45
useruserian_: hmm, you typed that exactly as I had it?02:46
amorphous_Toma-, sorry about the delay - I not too good with all this - and my pointer is hardly visible at the mo... :(02:46
useruserian_: can you copy and paste the command you typed?02:46
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ifrSorry about this: dumb question PuMp, are you trying to set the res at Systenm -Admin - Screen resolution/02:46
ian_useruser- I copied and pasted it directly.02:46
void^TheFaction20: strange - i'd try with a different kernel version, they've messed around with the usb code a lot recently.. but i can't tell you how to do that on ubuntu02:46
useruserian_: ok, that's odd02:46
Toma-np02:46
lampshadeHey,  I was trying to tweak out battery stuff on my laptop, so I uninstalled laptop-mode and then installed laptop-mode-tools, however when I did I lost Hibernate, Suspend, etc from the logout menu.  What do I need to install to get them back?02:46
PuMpyes ifr, but it's the same02:46
toujiokay i cant find something that makes gifs in gimp02:46
PuMpi can only chose one resolution02:46
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jilocasinuseruser shred does not work with journalled filesystems.02:46
PuMp*choose02:46
ifrBummer. Did you look in the xor.conf file for those other resolution values?02:46
useruserjilocasin: ok02:46
useruserian_: try this instead: grep 'hd[a-f] ' /var/log/syslog02:47
liabletouji: of course it makes gifs.. just make it, save it as foo.gif...02:47
LinuxJonesnickrud: I had fedora core 5 installed for 5 minutes before re-installing Ubuntu. It was setup as default in all gnome apps including Gnome-Xchat. It was spectacular, something Ubuntu ought to consider as a default.02:47
Leotoothpickthanx guys02:47
PuMpyes02:47
PuMpwant to have a look at my xorg.conf?02:47
TheFaction20void^:any direction you can point me in to look for an answer?02:47
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ifrSomeone more skilled than I do will certainly want a look at the monitor section. You should put it into a pastebin and come back and ask again.02:47
soundmaster80my apologies for bothering everyone. could someone help me with my question again?02:48
soundmaster80i have dual nics on my motherboard, both are enabled with dhcp...can this cause problems browsing the internet?02:48
ian_useruser: Again, no response.  Jsut the same prompt line as before...02:48
ifrAnd Now my question again: where can I download Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?02:48
crimsunifr: linux-tree-2.6.1002:48
useruserian_: ok. you said it was a maxtor?02:48
JayBachateroCan someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?02:48
void^TheFaction20: sorry, no further ideas.02:48
useruserian_: try dmesg|grep -i maxtor02:48
liablesoundmaster80: yes, why are both configured? your kernel will be trying to route through both.02:48
soundmaster80thank you liable02:48
purple^hazeanybody know any good newsgroups client ?02:48
soundmaster80well, one was up for vmware02:48
crimsunpurple^haze: Pan02:48
nickrudLinuxJones, amazing. I've only seen it used in evolution & gedit before. Maybe I'll give gnome-xchat another look02:48
purple^hazecrimsun,  thank u02:49
ifrcrimsun that you!!02:49
ifrTHANK YOU I mean02:49
ian_useruser: I -think-02:49
soundmaster80that's what dawned on me today...I've been having problems, i just wanted to nail that as the cause02:49
Toma-amorphous_: problem solved i think.... mga driver doesnt like alpha cursors, and the ubuntu default is alpha... lets get a new cursor theme to test... hang tight02:49
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useruserian_: alright, another strategy02:49
ian_useruser: Samsame.02:49
useruserian_: ls /proc/ide02:49
liablesoundmaster80: check the output of 'route' if you see to UG then thats your problem02:49
PuMpnow that i see the gnome panel again it just let me choose 60hz, and i configured the xorg.conf with higher values02:49
JayBachateroCan someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.02:49
amorphous_Toma-, i shall be a model hanger...!02:49
liabletwo02:50
LinuxJonesnickrud: it was putting the red line under the misspelled words, right click and select the correct spelling. I have to get this working for xchat if nothing else. My typing skills are so bad :)02:50
tonyyarussoI need some help installing a KDM theme.  How's that work?02:50
lampshadesoundmaster80, you should be able to see in /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the card you don't want to auto start up02:50
toujine1 know where i can get the gimp help files?02:50
ian_useruser: New response.... "hda  hdb  hdc  hdd  ide0  ide102:50
ian_"02:50
Toma-!info gcursor02:50
ubotugcursor: (gnome cursor theme managing software), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.061-ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 152 kB02:50
soundmaster80yeah, i did that and things are working solid again....it was driving me nuts02:50
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useruserian_: good. it's going to be one of those :)02:50
Toma-grab that package amorphous_02:50
_jasontouji: apt-cache search gimp help02:50
soundmaster80i just wanted someone smarter than me to verify it :-)02:50
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purple^hazecrimsun,  is it a gui ?02:50
purple^hazeit is!02:51
lampshadeanyone with a laptop with hibernation?02:51
ian_useruser <nods>02:51
taotimehi folks i need help with a non ubuntu problem.02:51
amorphous_Toma-,  !info gcursor? apt-get it?02:51
JayBachateroCan someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.02:51
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PuMphow can i do to choose 1024x768?02:51
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Toma-amorphous_: you bet. 'sudo apt-get install gcursor'02:51
PuMpi hate this resolution02:51
soundmaster80thank you all for your help, have a great night or day where ever you are :)02:51
useruserian_: find /proc/ide/ -name model -exec cat {} ';'02:51
NeighborhoodNer1touji: apt-get install gimp-help-en02:51
useruserian_: oh, wait02:52
Marcin_Evening. Seeking help with WPA with wpa_supplicant.02:52
amorphous_Toma-, on it's way... ;)02:52
PuMpsomebody can help me please?02:52
useruserian_: find /proc/ide/ -name model -ls -exec cat {} ';'02:52
PuMpif you want to take a look to my xorg.conf i'll pastebin it02:52
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Toma-PuMp: did you read the fixres i showed you?02:52
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taotimedoes anybody know how to email to a cell phone?02:52
lampshadeIf anyone has a laptop, and would like to apt-get remove laptop-mode, but not actually uninstall it and just tell me what packages it wants to remove, that would be awesome.  I removed them at one time and now I need them back for hibernation support02:53
amorphous_Toma-, mbox seems to be the only theme avail - i try that?02:53
PuMpbut they are for hoary, aren't they?02:53
useruserian_: look for your hard disk model. the device should be the hda/hdb/hdc/hdd bit in the previous line02:53
Toma-amorphous_: try anything02:53
ian_useruser Ok, that listed every type of drive I have.  It's either my Maxtor or My Quantum Bigfoot.02:53
nismoI seem to have a problem with Firefox and amarok, if i have both of these programs running, one of the usually shuts down, this happens once every 10-20 mintues and its quite annoying, any1 have any ideas?02:53
lampshadeMarcin_, I'm using it right now, I might be some help but I'm usually not much02:53
amorphous_Toma-, i am - trust me!02:53
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useruserian_: you don't know which one you want to nuke?02:53
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Marcin_lampshade: I'll take any help I can get :) Did you go by this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto or some other source?02:54
ian_useruser I have no idea which of the two it is that's got XP on it without switching over to XP and checking.02:54
useruserian_: heh02:54
JayBachateroCan someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.02:54
PuMpToma- Aren't thoses fixes for hoary?02:54
Toma-PuMp: nope02:54
PuMpit says This Howto is intended for those who have installed or upgraded to Hoary,02:54
nismo?! :(02:54
nismoI seem to have a problem with Firefox and amarok, if i have both of these programs running, one of the usually shuts down, this happens once every 10-20 mintues and its quite annoying, any1 have any ideas?02:54
useruserian_: ok, type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-d] 02:54
Toma-PuMp: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will fix up your problem02:54
ian_useruser Sorry, just switched to Linux 3 days ago...I could easilly perform this in Windows, but I'm having to relearn in this vastly superior OS. ;)02:54
majdHey, this is awkward, i have a link in my menu that runs cd /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudioClient-5.1.0/bin && sudo ./ZDE     but the terminal pops up for a second and then disapears...then when i copy the command and paste it, it works02:54
PuMpi have tried that02:54
useruserian_: if only one of them has ntfs or other windowsy partitions on it, then that's the one you want02:55
Toma-PuMp: tried hitting ctl-alt-+ or - on the keypad?02:55
useruserian_: nah, that's ok02:55
PuMpnothing happens02:55
useruserian_: note: be careful to get that command exactly right!02:55
useruserian_: fdisk is a scarily powerful beast02:55
Toma-PuMp: how odd. a copy of xorg.conf and 'tail -50 /var/log/Xorg.0.log' on pastebin02:56
Toma-plz!02:56
ian_useruser I'm copying directly so as to avoid accidents. ;) I believe, based on that last response, it's hdb202:56
JayBachateroCan someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.02:56
useruserian_: ok, just one partition then? not the whole of /dev/hdb?02:56
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ian_useruser Which reads: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-d] 02:56
ian_useruser Eek.  Opps.02:56
Marcin_lampshade: I guess more speciically, how di dyou find out what your network driver is? Or did you install a new one? And if so...how do I do it? :D02:56
lampshadeMarcin_, somewhere else, but I still might be able to help you.  Some of the biggest pitfalls that I ran into some stuff along the way.  I use WPA with Intel Centrino on my laptop so I followed the guide in the forums, but even with that there was some minor glitches I had to overcome02:56
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ian_useruser It reads: /dev/hdb2              32        1057     8241345    5  Extended02:57
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useruserian_: what else does it say is on /dev/hdb?02:57
Toma-useruser: might have been quicker to 'cat /etc/fstab | grep windows' or something :)02:57
Marcin_lampshade: guide in the forums? Link?02:57
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ian_useruser the others read Linux or Linux DVM.02:57
PuMpok, Toma-02:57
useruserToma-: yeah, probably :) i don't know my way around ubuntu so well yet02:57
useruserian_: ok, you probably want to keep that one then02:57
lampshadeMarcin_, the network driver is whatever yoru card is using, do you have wireles in a non encrypted area even?  The guide was for Intel Centrino, I think but yeah I'll see if I can find it.02:57
Toma-ian_: can you put a copy of fstab on pastebin?02:58
PuMphere is my xorg.conf Toma-02:58
PuMphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1094502:58
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fortunatohello02:58
JayBachateroCan someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.02:58
Marcin_lampshade: the wpa_supplicant thing only lists like uh, 6 drivers. I have a Belkin card, and Ubuntu just autodetected it. I didn't have to do anything so I'm not sure what the driver is :D02:58
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lampshadeMarcin_, this one is what I used.  Got me going very nicely once I stopped making typos and shit02:59
ifrOkay I asked this before but now I am asking again specifically: KERNEL CONFIG QUESTION:  I downloaded the source tree for the kernel.  I am going to do make oldconfig to get me halfway there. BEFORE I do make oldconfig should I apply the patch by doing p0 < patch-name.patch in the source directory of the kernel I'm compiling?02:59
GTroyanyone think this is a bad idea?02:59
useruserian_: yeah, let's have a looksie at /etc/fstab on pastebin02:59
GTroyhttp://flavor8.com/index.php/2006/03/26/how-to-back-up-your-dvds-in-ubuntu/02:59
ian_useruser Ok, wait.  Two of the 3 listed on that last response have similar ammount of blocks.  Almost identicle.  Both my HD's are almost exactly same size.02:59
useruserian_: it's not the number of blocks that are interesting, it's the partition types02:59
fortunatohm02:59
ian_useruser XP-drive is not partitioned.02:59
lampshadeMarcin_, what type of card?02:59
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Toma-PuMp: are they your monitors Hsync a Vrefresh?03:00
fortunatoyay03:00
nickrudLinuxJones, it seems that libsexy is what gives spell checking to xchat-gnome03:00
useruserian_: what does df / say?03:00
useruserian_: that'll be a partition you want to keep :)03:00
PuMpyes03:00
ian_useruser DF?03:00
PuMpand in the panel it just let me choose 65hz03:00
Toma-PuMp: having wrong values there can often lead to xorg not letting you change res, simply because it can blow your monitor03:00
LinuxJonesnickrud: I a looking at that right now, it's installed by Dapper by default but into on how to enable it are rather sparse03:00
useruserian_: yes, in lowercase (run that command)03:00
fortunatoHEY! does anyone know of a program thats easy to use that can limit bandwidth over a router?03:00
Marcin_Belkin PCMCIA wireless G03:00
fortunatoive found one.. but costs. and another i dont understand.03:01
chuckypMarcin_, what chipset is it using?03:01
LinuxJonesnickrud: see why I need a spell checker :(03:01
Marcin_chuckyp: how do I tell?03:01
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useruseror better still, paste the output of df -T somewhere I can take a look like pastebin03:01
nickrudLinuxJones, I wouldn't be suprised it linking was disabled in the ubuntu build. I'm in breezy at the moment, but you could get the source and look at the debian directory, see what's up03:01
chuckypWasn't there an issue with the broadcomm chipsets something they needed to rem out before they could just ndiswrapper03:01
PuMpToma-, before they were both values on 60 and it was the same03:01
ian_useruser I can paste you the text, but I don't remember the url for pastebin..03:01
useruserian_: neither do i , but i'm certain google has a pretty strong opinion on the matter03:02
ian_useruser ;)03:02
CSWookieCan someone direct me to a page on making my own ubuntu livecd?03:02
nickrudLinuxJones, into and info are equal to a spell checker ;P03:02
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fortunatocan03:02
fortunatosomeone help me find a program that can limit the bandwidth over my router?03:02
chuckypMarcin_, I know you need to use the ndiswrapper driver's but you need to stop the default broadcomm module from loading can't remember how right now.03:03
LinuxJonesnickrud: yeah well I'm on strong medication for a few more days ;(03:03
PuMpToma- should i put smaller values?03:03
Toma-PuMp: try setting Hsync to 30-70 an Vrefresh to 50-160 then remove all the modes under the 24bit Depth section to have only "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"03:03
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ian_useruser Ok, gimme a sec, opening pastebin now...03:03
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fortunatothe other computer (windows) is using all bandwidth03:03
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useruserian_: ok03:03
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Toma-PuMp: thats going from the offical spec sheet of your monitor03:03
PuMpok03:03
chuckypfortunato, What do you want to do now?03:04
fortunatostupid gnutella clients left on.. i keep getting kicked off and having to use dhclient all too often.03:04
wafeihello03:04
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PuMpi remove all the dephts, and i just leave 24?03:04
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Toma-PuMp: if that doesnt fix anything, a copy of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log will be required03:04
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useruserfortunato: wikipedia suggests this: http://www.mastershaper.org/tiki-index.php03:04
fortunatook03:04
fortunatothanks03:04
XVampireXyo03:04
PuMpok, i did that03:04
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lampshadeMarcin_, if your wireless works out of the box on unencrypted stuff, I would just do a dmesg | grep -i wireless and see if you can see which driver nabs it03:04
XVampireXI did the integrity check03:04
Toma-PuMp: NO. leave all the other depth sections, just change the selectable options under the 24bit section03:05
PuMpshould i reboot or just with CTRL+ALT+BSPACE its ok?03:05
XVampireXIt indeed is defective03:05
ian_useruser http://pastebin.com/62616603:05
useruserian_: ok, got it03:05
jeplerHow does Ubuntu do with nforce chipset systems?  I'm shopping for a socket 939 system, and the majority of them seem to be nforce.  Here's one example: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=MB-BA2147303:05
Toma-PuMp: ctl-alt-bkspce03:05
PuMpok03:05
PuMpi'll be right back03:05
lampshademine says ipw2200 and that's what I use then with ipw in the command to get WPA working03:05
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XVampireXAll I can do now is get a cdr working, lol03:05
useruserian_: ok, it's /dev/hda03:05
useruserian_: it's got the ntfs partition on it03:05
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useruserian_: and as you say, there's just one partition on that drive03:06
PuMpsame thing Toma- :S03:06
ian_useruser If you say so. ;)  You know better than I!03:06
lampshadequite frankly I hope Ubuntu Dapper has WPA support built in because otherwise that's a horrible flaw... I mean this is something that works out of the box with WIndows and OSX so yeah... I see so many people that have issues with it sigh03:06
majdHey, this is awkward, i have a link in my menu that runs cd /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudioClient-5.1.0/bin && sudo ./ZDE     but the terminal pops up for a second and then disapears...then when i copy the command and paste it, it works03:06
Marcin_that would be nice :/03:06
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XVampireXOr order some more CDs03:06
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PuMpwhat file do you need now Toma-?03:06
XVampireXcorvax, yo03:06
Toma-PuMp: if that doesnt fix anything, a copy of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log will be required03:06
Marcin_I'll brb then and change back to unencrypted to find out what the drivers are.03:06
ian_useruser Ok, now we've identified which one I want to nuke...How do I go about erasing it?03:07
useruserian_: run cfdisk /dev/hda03:07
jeplerIt seems like all the nforce-related forum posts, etc, are about nforce problems -- but if not nforce, what is a good chipset for a socket 939 system?03:07
Toma-PuMp: and ctl-alt-+ doesnt change the resolution?03:07
ian_useruser Type that including "run"?03:07
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nikiwhen i run gstreamer-properties, and i click the test button on Default Source (set for ALSA), i get this error: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA-Advanced Linux Sound Architecture' ....  any ideas?03:07
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useruserian_: nah, starting with cfdisk03:07
ifrOkay I asked this before but now I am asking again specifically: KERNEL CONFIG QUESTION:  I downloaded the source tree for the kernel.  I am going to do make oldconfig to get me halfway there. BEFORE I do make oldconfig should I apply the patch by doing patch -p0 < patch-name.patch in the source directory of the kernel I'm compiling?03:07
PuMpno Toma-, it doesn't change it03:07
SpecialBuddydoes anyone know how I can get sshd on my computer03:07
mestreanyone portuguese?03:07
Bowsaanyone know why i cant eject my cd03:08
useruserian_: hm, scratch that03:08
_jason!pt03:08
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.03:08
Toma-PuMp: ok03:08
PuMphere it is03:08
PuMphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1094703:08
useruserian_: no wait you probably to have to do that :P03:08
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ian_useruser FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive03:08
ian_   Press any key to exit cfdisk03:08
mestreyou have to make a clic on the icon and choose eject03:08
Toma-PuMp: dapper?03:08
useruserian_: oops, run sudo cfdisk /dev/hda03:08
Toma-wait...03:08
SpecialBuddydoes anyone know how I get sshd on my computer03:08
ifrsudo apt-get instakll open-ssh03:08
Toma-PuMp: you have xorg7.0 on breezy?!?!03:08
ifrsomething like that03:09
SpecialBuddythanks03:09
JayBachateroCan someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.03:09
Toma-oh nah.. its dapper03:09
Bowsaanyone know why i cant open my cd drive03:09
PuMpit's dappper03:09
useruserian_: do you want to repartition the drive, or just have one big partition still?03:09
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ifrapt-cache search ssh SpecialBuddy03:09
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amorphous_Toma-, this may make me sound completely useless but - where do i get more themes? i cant find any >:(03:09
nikiwhen i run gstreamer-properties, and i click the test button on Default Source (set for ALSA), i get this error: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA-Advanced Linux Sound Architecture' ....  any ideas?03:09
ian_useruser I want XP off it and to be able to use the space for the Ubuntu I'm running now.03:09
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Toma-amorphous_: www.gnome-look.org03:09
useruserian_: ok, i guess one big partition is fine then03:09
Kriticaldoes anyone know a program which can monitor network bandwidth on a per ip basis? also needs to give me monthly usage statistics for lan ips?03:10
PuMpIt's Dapper Drake Toma-03:10
ian_useruser <nodnods>03:10
Toma-PuMp: filed a bug yet?03:10
useruserian_: hit t and type 82 to change it to a linux partition03:10
PuMpno03:10
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ifrReally, no one on this list can help with the kernel compiling problem?03:10
useruserian_: oops, it's 83, not 8203:10
jilocasincan anyone point me in the correct direction to securely delete files in linux?03:10
Syco54645can anyone tell me how to selected a range of numbers with a case statement in bash.  i cannot find it anywhere03:10
ian_useruser I don't see an option for 83...03:11
useruserian_: then use the right arrow key to hightlight "Write" and press enter03:11
useruserian_: you have to press t first03:11
SpecialBuddyI have ssh but I need sshd03:11
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PuMpwhat can I do Toma-?03:11
ifrRight, SpecialBuddy but searching for sshd will show you the name one sec03:11
corvaxjust use rm -rf03:11
suyogmy ubuntu is very sliggish on an 800 Mhz system. how can i speed things up? any tips?03:11
userusersuyog: xubuntu?03:11
Kyral!xubuntu03:12
ubotufrom memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu03:12
corvaxsuyog more ram03:12
corvaxheh03:12
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ifrSpecialBuddy, it's sudo apt-get install openssh-server03:12
ian_useruser I did.  82 is Linux swap/ Solaris03:12
suyog:(03:12
ifrSorry about that03:12
ifrThat will do it03:12
corvaxim running dapper on a  450 mhz with 256 mb03:12
useruserian_: yes, select 83 instead03:12
SpecialBuddythanks03:12
corvaxits not THAT sluggish03:12
suyogcan't i just remove some startup services to free up more ram?03:12
useruserian_: should just say "Linux"03:12
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ifrNo worries03:12
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userusersuyog: you can see what's eating ram with top or the system monitor (which itself sucks up insane amounts of system resources)03:13
Toma-PuMp: like is aid before, bad hsync-vrefresh rates...... which is WEIRD MAN! umm. you definitly have a SyncMaster 794MB?03:13
Toma-suyog: initng03:13
NeighborhoodNer1Kritical: ethereal might be a start .... I don't know about the monthly stats though, perhaps some perl scripts on CPAN03:13
ian_useruser Are you sure?  It says Hda1 is Linux FS...?03:13
PuMpyes03:13
suyogi'll do that, useruser. And after I find that program, how do i remove it from my startup initialization?03:13
PuMpSamsung 794MB and a Radeon 920003:13
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PuMpwhat refresh should i set?03:14
useruserian_: oh, it does?03:14
suyogcan i just delete things from inside /.etc/init.d/ ?03:14
Toma-PuMp: from what this log says, radeon driver is saying you cant use 1024.76803:14
ian_useruser Aye.03:14
useruserian_: in that pastebin output, it said that /dev/hda1 is HPFS/NTFS03:14
useruserian_: maybe you changed it already?03:14
PuMphow can that be?03:14
SpecialBuddydon't I just start sshd by going to /etc/init.d/sshd start?03:14
PuMpi can't use 1024x768 but i can use 1024x96003:15
Toma-I dare say, its a sooky driver. :)03:15
lampshadeanyone with a laptop who is feeling brave who would like to help me out by doing an apt-get remove laptop-mode and then pressing N and not removing it, but tell me what packages it is going to remove with it?  I removed mine already and I need some of those packages back :-/03:15
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useruserlampshade: you could run apt-get install laptop-mode and press control-c03:15
PuMp:S03:15
ian_useruser Neg.  Says Linux.03:15
PuMpanother thing03:15
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nikii don't know what i've done...but sudo isn't working for me now.  for instance...if i type : sudo apt-get update , it prompts me for a password...then returns me to the prompt.   help!03:15
Toma-PuMp: just a minute. file a bug in the meantime03:15
useruserian_: ok, well it sounds like you're good to go then03:15
useruserian_: exit cfdisk (hit q)03:16
Hwyvarso, I know it's trivial, but I'd like my xmatrix screensaver slower, and its slowest in the options. Can I add something like -speedXX in the commandline of advanced options without wrecking it? thnx in advance03:16
useruserian_: then run mke2fs -j /dev/hda103:16
nickrudPuMp, sudo ddcprobe should give you the monitor range at the bottom, those are the (horizsyc & vertrefresh) values you want03:16
useruserian_: er, sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hda103:16
lampshadeuseruser, no, cause it just reinstalls laptop-mode, but doesn't tell me the other things that it took out when I uninstalled it.  It will just reinstall laptop-mode and not the other packages :-/  that's my frustration03:16
nickrudPuMp, I haven't seen your xorg.conf, so if they're already there, never mind :)03:16
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suyoganyone? how do i stop services from starting during bootup?03:16
MarcinMOk, grepping DMESG for wireless returned nothing. Grepping it for my interface returned "no ipv6 routers present". Now what.....03:16
useruserian_: that'll reformat that partition with a linux filesystem (ext3)03:16
lwizardlcan someone help me with xdvdshrink03:16
nikii don't know what i've done...but sudo isn't working for me now.  for instance...if i type : sudo apt-get update , it prompts me for a password...then returns me to the prompt.   if i run sudo vi filename....it does the same thing, never opens vi.  HELP PLEASE!03:16
Toma-lwizardl: whats the problem?03:17
PuMpanother thing, how do i made a ntfs partition readable for all users on dapper?03:17
lwizardlToma-, i have the rpm used alien to generate a deb. then used the package manager to install it. but when i try and open it nothing happens03:17
Toma-suyog: remove services wont speed u up much. lookinto the program initng03:17
nickrud!tell PuMp about mountwindows03:17
Toma-PuMp: you should be asking all this in #ubuntu+103:18
lampshadelwizardl, where did you get that?  That's not in the repo is it?03:18
ian_useruser mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)03:18
ian_mke2fs: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size03:18
Toma-lwizardl: you can get xdvdshrink from plf03:18
Toma-!plf03:18
ubotu[plf]  the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc03:18
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useruserian_: did you run it with the sudo?03:18
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ian_useruser Rather, using second string it reads : er, sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hda103:19
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jadaz87hello guys what is a program that you guys whould recommend for Music TAG Editting?03:19
suyogwhat is program initng? how do i use it, Toma-03:19
lwizardllampshade, i got it from their sourceforge site03:19
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useruserian_: odd03:20
ian_useruser Sorry again...One sec...03:20
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nickrudjadaz87, easytag03:20
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Toma-PuMp: try to not use the radeon driver and/or try changing the vsync and hsync03:20
Toma-!initng03:20
ubotuToma-: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:20
lampshadeToma-, I have that in my sources, but I don't see it with a cache search.  hmm03:20
nikiHELP PLEASE!  my sudo command isn't working!03:20
Toma-who keeps deleting my info bits? :(03:20
ian_useruser It reads: /dev/hda is entire device, not just one partition!03:20
corvax!bum03:20
ubotubum is, like, totally, a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html03:20
PuMpif i change the drivers, i'll lose the direct rendering?03:20
jadaz87nickrud can that do mass editting?03:20
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ian_useruser Using sudo.03:20
ian_!sudo03:21
ubotuI heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:21
Toma-lampshade: its in the dvdshrink package03:21
josehi everybody03:21
Toma-i thinks03:21
PuMpToma-, if i change the radeon's drivers, i'll lose the direct rendering?03:21
MarcinMHm. So ... hm.03:21
Toma-PuMp: yes, but itll prove that its the nasty radeon or not03:21
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nickrudjadaz87, I just renamed about 15gb of mp3's because the names were too long for joliet, so yes :)03:21
PuMpok03:21
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nikiHELP PLEASE!  my sudo command isn't working! when i run a command with sudo, i get prompted for my password, then nothing!  the program doesn't run!  please help!03:21
lwizardlToma-, HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found03:21
lwizardl20:21:35 ERROR 404: Not Found.03:21
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Toma-what the heck.03:22
lampshadeToma-, ?  DVD shrink returns no results for me?  Are there more than one PLF or something?  Just checked in my sources and I do have PLF repos in there :-/03:22
_jasonniki: did you do an expert install?03:22
corvaxenter your password03:22
naztyanyone know why my terminal is lacking ansi characters?03:22
Amaranthsorry03:22
niki_jason, no...and it's been working fine all day03:22
corvaxlol03:22
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lwizardllampshade, xdvdshrink03:22
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jadaz87nickrud HUZZAH thank you so much03:22
ian_useruser ?03:22
_jasonniki: strange, what is the output of 'groups'?03:22
josesomebody knows about how to unistall ubuntu ?03:22
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PuMpdev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs      auto,ro,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=000,nls=utf8  0       003:22
PuMpis that ok?03:22
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lampshadeI tried that too  I didn't see that in the repos either03:22
niki_jason, niki and audio03:22
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useruserian_: i don't understand that error :/03:22
ian_useruser Which one?03:23
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_jasonniki: this is the user you created during the install process?03:23
useruserian_: the permission denied one03:23
niki_jason, yes03:23
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useruserian_: what does fdisk -l /dev/hda1 say?03:23
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naztytest03:23
_jasonniki: well somehow your user got removed from the admin group.  Users in the admin group are the only ones that can use sudo03:23
useruserian_: erm, wrong again03:23
ian_useruser No, I messed up because I forgot to use sudo.  When I typed with sudo I got:03:23
lwizardlToma-, can you test the link and see if it works for you?03:23
niki_jason, how can i repair this?03:23
ian_useruser mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)03:23
ian_/dev/hda is entire device, not just one partition!03:23
ian_Proceed anyway? (y,n)03:23
useruserian_: oh, ok03:23
Toma-!plf03:24
ubotuit has been said that plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc03:24
useruserian_: no, don't proceed :)03:24
_jasonniki: did you ever set a root password by any chance?03:24
ian_useruser Sorry about the miscom.03:24
useruserian_: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hda103:24
niki_jason, nope, just gave the userpass that was asked for in the install03:24
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PuMpdev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs      auto,ro,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=000,nls=utf8  0       0 is this line ok?03:24
useruserian_: that should do the trick - I think you missed the final 1 when copying :)03:24
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corvaxsudo passwd03:24
Toma-ubotu: no, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc03:24
ubotuokay, Toma-03:24
Toma-!plf03:24
ubotumethinks plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc03:24
Toma-try again03:24
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naztyanyone one know how i can get ansi type characters to display?03:24
brendan_hey, can someone tell me how to install a game? like a .run file?03:25
useruserbrendan_: which game?03:25
Toma-brendan_: sh nameoffile.run03:25
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_jasonniki: that's ok, you will have to do this: reboot and select 'recovery mode' from the grub menu.  Then when you get a root prompt, enter the command 'adduser your_normal_username admin', then reboot again and you should have sudo working again03:25
brendan_alien arena03:25
naztyanyone one know how i can get ansi type characters to dis in a terminal?!03:25
ian_useruser That looks like it is working...03:25
useruserian_: cool03:25
jadaz87nickrud if i use easy tag to retag file whould RhythmBox update do you think?03:25
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userusernazty: which ansi characters did you have in mind?03:25
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ian_useruser Reads: his filesystem will be automatically checked every 28 mounts or03:25
ian_180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.03:25
naztyever use bitchx?03:25
useruserian_: yeah, it's all good03:26
niki_jason, ok, will give it a shot...thanks :)03:26
naztythe ansi arts look like blocks03:26
naztyinstead of characters03:26
useruserian_: you now want to edit /etc/fstab to add your new partition to the filesystem03:26
nickrudjadaz87, good question, but I think rhythmbox notes if a music directory has changed and rereads it. I just offloaded all the music, so I can't check myself03:26
useruserian_: run sudo gedit /etc/fstab03:26
ian_useruser Thanks man.  Sorry it was so hard (because I'm new).  Do you know where I'll be able to find the blank HD now?  So I can drop files into it?03:26
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useruserian_: it's not over yet :P03:27
naztyuseruser:whatever it takes for bitchx to look right03:27
jadaz87nickrud oh ok i will try and see i might just have to reimport 33 hours of music oh well hahahahaha03:27
userusernazty: bitchx? isn't that an X app?03:27
davidmoore83anyone know how to extract tar.gz files in xubuntu it doesnt seem to have a gui extract cmd03:27
lampshadeToma-, wow, I have no idea why they aren't in my repo if they are in yours, I do have the PLF in my sources and I did apt-get update, I have no idea but it doesn't show up for me in an apt-cache search at all03:27
naztynah03:27
naztyterminal03:27
ian_useruser Oh, k, one sec..03:27
userusernazty: oh, ok. i use irssi with xterm and things generally seem to work03:27
davidmoore83Toma-, know how to extract tar.gz files in xubuntu it doesnt seem to have a gui extract cmd03:27
ian_useruser Ok, new window (gedit) popped...03:27
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naztyyeah but the ascii/ansi art looks like straight up blocks03:28
jadaz87davidmoore83 you use : "tar zxvf <nameofarchivehere>.tar.gz03:28
naztycan i send u a screenshot?03:28
Jamsielloo llllelleloo03:28
useruserian_: find the line for /dev/hdb1 and copy it to the end03:28
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nickruddavidmoore83, applications->accessories->archive manager03:28
Toma-davidmoore83: ^^ tar -zxf filename.tar.gz03:28
brendan_ok that worked...it uncpmpress then went back to proompt?03:28
JamsiIs it just me ... or does Ubuntu rock my socks.03:28
IamEthoshow do I install stuff in Ubuntu03:28
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JamsiIamEthos, apt-get03:28
IamEthosstuff that isn't in repositories03:28
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JamsiCompile it?03:28
naztyuseruser:u a screenshot?03:28
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corvaxyour socks must be happy03:28
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userusernazty: of what? xterm?03:28
Toma-lampshade: i get it... look for dvdshrink03:28
userusernazty: it's kinda ubiquitous03:29
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davidmoore83nickrud, this is xcfe03:29
Jamsicorvax, sure are man. Installed ubuntu on a laptop and went 100% fine. No hiccups.03:29
ian_useruser /dev/hdb1       /boot           ext3    defaults        0       203:29
geargolemhow can I find out where I set my pythonpath?03:29
Jamsicorvax, more and more user friendly every day03:29
ian_useruser That one?03:29
corvaxyeah03:29
arrick do I perform a dual boot with XP PRO and ubuntu?03:29
IamEthosJamsi: how do I compile source?03:29
useruserian_: oops, no03:29
IamEthosis there a tutorial on this somewhere?03:29
useruserian_: try the one for /dev/hdb5 instead03:29
corvaxbut now you get to fiddle with it03:29
JamsiIamEthos, download the source file for the software (most likely .tar.gz)03:29
jadaz87!compile03:29
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)03:29
davidmoore83arrick, did i not explain that last night?03:29
corvaxtill it breaks :)03:29
corvaxlol03:29
nickruddavidmoore83, you could install it, it's called file-roller. works in xfce I would think03:29
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JamsiIamEthos, ungzip it (ungzip filename.tar.gz), then untar it (tar xvf filename.tar) then read the install file.03:30
arrickI wasnt doing that, I was setting up a print server, so I didnt see03:30
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ian_useruser Don't see it listed.03:30
arrickgot a link?03:30
corvaxyou cant help but fiddle with stuff in linux its fun03:30
IamEthos!tell iamethos about repos03:30
nickrudIamEthos, really, really try to find a deb before compiling :)03:30
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cristofHi. I got as P-IV 3.0GHz, HT. When I put a kernel with SMP to run (even the ubunu smp kernel), the X server locks the machine. Does anyone knows how can I avoid this keeping the smp feature?03:30
useruserian_: ok.. do you have another line starting /dev/hdb<something> ?03:30
arrickHows it going davidmoore8303:30
truz24i have two ubuntu boxes and one windows box; from the windows box, i can ping 1 of the ubuntu boxes by hostname, and the other i cannot, what can be the cause of hostname lookup failures?03:30
useruserian_: that's the one I'm trying to get hold of03:30
lampshadeToma-, hahah I tried that, and other permutations of the name, got no results back ??  That's really weird.  I mean I can see the plf source in my sources list03:30
Abnixanyone have a crash-course howto for setting up bind on ubuntu?03:31
ian_useruser Neg.03:31
jadaz87!bind03:31
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz8703:31
rnd_nullI am having a problem connecting to my computer with my Palm T2 over bluetooth.  I can push files over form the PC just fine, and I can also connect from the PC just fine, however I am unable to connect to the PC from the Palm...I get a PPP timeout 0x1231 error every time...help03:31
useruserian_: can you pastebin the fstab file?03:31
Toma-lampshade: whats the exact line for plf u have?03:31
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arrickdavidmoore83, I gave up on the printserver, no good drivers, si U want to dual boot my laptop to learn lnux03:31
ian_useruser Just did.03:31
Abnixmy isp's dns is beyond insanely-slow....I'd like to run my own dns....03:31
nazty close useruser03:31
ian_useruser http://pastebin.com/62619003:31
IamEthosnickrud: where do I look for debs beside the developer's website?03:31
lampshadeToma-, deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free  which is what is on their site too  I also have the source one right under it03:31
nickrudIamEthos, what application?03:32
useruserian_: ok, ubuntu is weirder than i thought :)03:32
Toma-hangon... lampshade, dvdshrink is in ubuntu repos03:32
Toma-!info dvdshrink03:32
geargolemhow can I refind the file I used to set my pythonpath?03:32
IamEthosis there some secret website to find repositories no included with Ubuntu03:32
useruserian_: never mind, add a line like this to that file:03:32
ian_useruser :)03:32
Toma-or not...03:32
NovaScorpioJust wondering - is there any way to know *why* the update-notifier wants me to reboot? I know that it's because /var/run/reboot-required got touched, but there's nothing in /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d or /var/run/ that seems to indicate why I'm rebooting...03:32
CreatureOfLegendHello. I have a question:  Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't.  What do I do to mount it manually?03:32
IamEthosI don't have anything in mind at the moment03:32
ian_useruser at bottom?03:32
Toma-*scratches head*03:32
arrickdavidmoore83, you have a refernce link for me?03:32
lampshadeToma-, their site also says it is in the repo.... :-/  I'm as puzzled as you03:32
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useruserian_: /dev/hda1       /mnt/stuff           ext3    defaults        0       003:32
useruserian_: yeah, anywhere you like03:32
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IamEthosbut I've seen things like Xpad that don't have repos link on their site. If it  wasn't included in Ubuntu, where would I look?03:33
useruserian_: you can change /mnt/stuff to where you want the disk to be mounted03:33
ian_useruser Then save and close?03:33
useruserian_: yes03:33
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davidmoore83err sorry arrick no - sure i gave you one last night?03:33
useruserian_: then sudo mkdir /mnt/stuff03:33
useruserian_: and sudo mount -a03:33
arricknope03:33
corvaxsecret webite03:33
corvaxlol03:33
av8when i tried to install kde using this command - "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:33
av8"03:33
CreatureOfLegendHello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?03:33
arricknot for that, I was getting printers setup fo for the last three days03:33
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corvaxsorry03:33
ian_useruser How do you mean shnge /mnt/stuff to where I want it mounted?03:33
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Toma-why the hell do i have dvdshrink in my repos with such a bare sources.list...03:33
arrick!dualboot03:33
ubotuwell, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo03:33
av8i got this message - "kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.03:34
av80 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 131 not upgraded.03:34
av8bash: ISOs:: command not found03:34
av8"03:34
JamsiAnyone know how to add two exchange accounts on evolution?03:34
useruserian_: well the way i've suggested will have the partition mounted (ie accessible) at the dir /mnt/stuff03:34
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useruserian_: you can give it a better name if you like03:34
CreatureOfLegendHello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?03:34
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av8what do i need to do in order to install it ?03:34
arrickIf I have a working printer on xp, can I set it so it will network to ubuntu?03:34
ian_useruser I'd like it in Places> Computer  with Name "Slave" minus quotes...03:34
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Toma-well im baffled.03:35
ian_useruser inside location Computer.03:35
glickexcuse me what packages do i need to install to run qt applications?03:35
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corvaxmount /dev/sda03:35
Deshcan anyone here help me with kubuntu, no one on that channel responds03:35
useruserian_: ok, i'm not sure about places>computer, but I think /mnt/slave is a good name then03:35
nickrudglick, just install the qt app you want, you'll get the packages you need03:35
IamEthosis there any way to hide all of the icons in a workspace?03:35
Toma-glick: build or run qt apps...03:35
_jasonglick: just install any qt application using synaptic and it will automatically get the dependencies you need03:35
corvaxright?03:35
jadaz87nickrud how do i get easy tag to not modify files automatically :-\03:35
IamEthosideally, I'd like to have 1 workspace for stickies, one for icons and two for applications03:35
CreatureOfLegendHello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?03:36
glick_jason: the person just wants to run a qt app that i wrote03:36
ian_useruser So.... sudo mkdir /mnt/Slave first?03:36
CreatureOfLegendHello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?03:36
IamEthosbut for the application workspaces to be blank03:36
Deshcan anyone help me with kubuntu?03:36
green_earzAbnix: have a look at " aptitude show pdnsd  " it may be more suited to your needs ?03:36
useruserian_: before mount -a, yes03:36
riddleboxI ran like 37 updates and now my second user cannot log into gnome it can log into failsafe console but not gnome?03:36
useruser*sudo03:36
Deshit has to do more with adept really03:36
IdleOne!tell Desh about ask03:36
FliesLikeALapwhat command can I use to see how fast this network drop is (I'm on a laptop and think it is 100mbit but want to check)03:36
lampshadeToma-, under closer inspection of the apt-get update output, I noticed that it is saying ign:  for the plf sources,  why is it being ignored??03:36
Toma-no idea03:36
FliesLikeALaplampshade  maybe because he updated very recently?03:36
Toma-bbl03:36
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_jasonglick: try #kubuntu too, I don't know much about qt/kde myself03:37
nickrudjadaz87, not sure what you mean03:37
CreatureOfLegendExcuse me, could somebody please point me to Ubuntu support IRC group?03:37
useruserlampshade: i expect you have a line in /etc/apt/sources.list which shouldn't be there (or should be in a comment)03:37
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davidmoore83CreatureOfLegend, ur here03:37
glickDesh: whats the problem?03:37
ian_useruser Ok I did that but terminal didn't send confirm or anything...Is this normal?03:37
jadaz87nickrud when the program open it scans the directories and starts modifying files i want to modify them manually03:37
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niki_jason, your solution worked, i can use sudo now...thanks so much!03:37
useruserian_: yeah03:37
CreatureOfLegenddavidmoore83: How do you get support here?03:37
DeshOk, I tried getting USB drives to work so i used adget to install hotplug but it failed and a full update failed, so I erstart hoping it will work next time and now Kubuntu wont load bast the battery info check, pressing alt f4 i can login to command line, using startx doest work03:37
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_jasonniki: np03:37
KriticalI've just edited /etc/network/interfaces ... anyone know the command to activate the changes?03:37
ian_useruser And will simply looking for my newly nuked HD work now?03:37
arrickthanks guys03:37
davidmoore83i'm buggered if i can get open office to work in xcfe03:37
useruserian_: type df and see if the partition shows up03:37
arrickI'll be back03:38
davidmoore83CreatureOfLegend,  you ask a question!03:38
useruserian_: dunno about the gui side of things03:38
CreatureOfLegenddavidmoore83: I did. 3 times ^_^03:38
CreatureOfLegendHello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?03:38
useruserian_: probably, if it's any good :)03:38
nickrudjadaz87, ok, that's easytag updating tags to a later standard for tagging if I remember right03:38
IdleOne!tell CreatureOfLegend about patience03:38
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av8anyone??03:38
av8please..03:38
davidmoore83CreatureOfLegend, this is IRC thats how it operates. Be patient keep repeating ur Q every so often and eventually someone will help03:38
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neo911hi does any1 remember the name of pkg to install for the application post-it-note on the desktop? thx03:39
IamEthosis there any way to make Gaim dock to the side of my desktop?03:39
av8i want to install kde on ubuntu03:39
glickDesh: then simply try to uninstall what you installed03:39
_jason!kde03:39
ubotuit has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:39
introvertav8: Apt-get kubuntu-desktop03:39
Desh Ok, I tried getting USB drives to work so i used adget to install hotplug but it failed and a full update failed, so I erstart hoping it will work next time and now Kubuntu wont load bast the battery info check, pressing alt f4 i can login to command line, using startx doest work03:39
useruserCreatureOfLegend: dmesg | tail to find out the device name, then mount it with the mount command03:39
ian_useruser Sent copy of DF to Pastebin03:39
IdleOneav8, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:39
NeighborhoodNer1Kritical: can u do ifconfig ethx down03:39
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jadaz87nickrud because the Tag and File Name Scan window is open and it set on fill tag when the program opens and starts modifying files what does that mean?03:39
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NeighborhoodNer1followed by ifconfig ethx up?03:39
useruserian_: rats, it's not there03:39
neo911hi does any1 remember the name of pkg to install for the application post-it-note on the desktop? thx03:39
_jasonav8: use aptitude if you want to be able to easily remove it in the future: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop03:40
useruserian_: can you paste the new /etc/fstab too?03:40
green_earzKritical: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart03:40
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ifrAnother kernel config question: if I have patched the source can I still do make-oldconfig or must I do make-config?03:40
_jason!kde =~ s/apt-get/aptitude/03:40
ubotuOK, _jason03:40
IdleOneneo911, I think you mean gdesklets03:40
Deshno one has any clues?03:40
bhomanhey i got gtkwifi how to i have it run as root on the panel?03:40
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ifrgksudo gtkwifi?03:40
DeshWhy would my OS stop booting after a restart?03:40
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: I get a lot of info from dmesg | tail gives me a lot of info. what does a device name look like?03:40
ifrCause the power is off?03:40
ian_useruser ian@KingWolf:~$ /etc/fstab03:40
ian_bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied03:40
bhomanwould that make is run as root all the time?03:41
av8what do i do after that?03:41
useruserCreatureOfLegend: /dev/sr0, /dev/sda, etc03:41
NovaScorpioAnyone know why update-notifier would tell me to reboot if I didn't update the kernel?03:41
ifrian_ sudo03:41
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DeshIts a laptop and power is not off03:41
cabajgtrCan someone help me add users to Samba, it wont take when I 'smbpasswd -a' my original user works fine03:41
useruserian_: sorry, i mean sudo gedit /etc/fstab, copy and paste it in03:41
neo911IdleOne, k thx ill try it out03:41
nickrudjadaz87, try closing the the scanner, and running without it. Or, let it try to write the first tag; it'll ask for permission and tell you exactly what it wants to do03:41
ifrDesh, sorry, I was just being a wiseass. Does it restart when you push the power button on and the only problem is it won't automatically work when you do sudo init 603:41
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: It's dev/sda but when I type mount /dev/sda I get can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab error message03:41
corvaxif its  the usb drive is fat try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt03:41
lampshadeuseruser, I don't think there is an error, not that I can see, it also tends to ignore the places that are more unofficial it seems, like the opera repo it also is ignoring03:42
useruserCreatureOfLegend: right, you need to use sudo03:42
NovaScorpiocabajgtr: Have you seen and read http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver ?03:42
Deshwell in command prompt startx returns with errors03:42
Kriticalgreen_earz: reconfiguring network interfaces - fail03:42
useruserlampshade: ok. it's a pretty odd error message though03:42
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Deshis there a way to reinstall the SO w/o losing the info on my drive?03:42
nazty.quit03:42
ian_useruser K, one sec03:42
IamEthosDesh: did you fuck up your xorg.conf file?03:43
useruserian_: got it03:43
nickrudjadaz87, or, try scanning just a subdirectory of what you're opening on. Or, tell easytag not to scan any directory on startup. (things I remember doing)03:43
ian_useruser Sent03:43
DeshI think so03:43
IamEthosif so, fixingthat up might not be too dificult03:43
Deshi didnt touch it tho03:43
useruserian_: i don't see that new /dev/hda1 line i asked you to add there03:43
IamEthosthe hotfix or whatever you ran may have03:43
useruserian_: /dev/hda1       /mnt/stuff           ext3    defaults        0       003:43
Deshok03:43
Deshthanks, i'll see to fixing it03:43
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IamEthosthat's what it was when I couldn't start X03:43
CreatureOfLegendcorvax: It says wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, missing codepage or other error in some cases useful info is found in syslog -try dmesg | tail or so03:44
useruserian_: paste it into gedit and save the file (change /mnt/stuff to /mnt/Slave)03:44
IamEthosI think X is what I couldn't start, anyway03:44
useruserCreatureOfLegend: try /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda03:44
IamEthosI'm still new to this03:44
IamEthoslol03:44
CreatureOfLegendok03:44
ian_useruser Ok, pasted and saved.  Then closed..03:44
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useruserian_: cool. now try sudo mount -a -v03:44
Vineetcan somebody help me with real audio streaming music?03:44
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: I did that and it didn't give me an error message. But I don't see the drive icon popping up either03:44
ian_useruser not Sudo mkdir /mnt/Slave first?03:45
corvaxcreature do03:45
corvaxsudo fdisk -l03:45
useruserian_: didn't you do that already?03:45
NovaScorpioHey, does anyone know why update-notifier would tell me to reboot if I didn't update the kernel?03:45
nickrud!realplayer03:45
ubotufrom memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:45
green_earzKritical: so the edit you did to the network interface most be wrong. you can use the app etherconf to setup the network ether inface to static or dynamic.03:45
useruserian_: that creates the mount point and only needs to be done once03:45
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useruserian_: ld -ld /mnt/Slave to check03:45
useruserian_: oops03:45
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CreatureOfLegendcorvax: I did. And it gives me a bunch of stuff03:45
useruserian_: ls -ld /mnt/Slave to check03:45
Khaaaaanhey guys03:45
davidmoore83how many of you use xcfe?03:46
Kriticalgreen_earz: I deleted what I added.. and it still failed.. whoops.. I'll use etherconf.. but it doesn't do ip aliasing03:46
corvaxdo you see an instasnces of sda or sda1?03:46
useruserCreatureOfLegend: i dunno about the gui, it's too clever for its own good03:46
CreatureOfLegendWhat am I looking for?03:46
KhaaaaanHow am I supposed to read E books in Linux?03:46
KhaaaaanAdobe shits the bed when I try03:46
IamEthosdoes anyone know of a dock program that mimics OS X's dock for Linux?03:46
useruserCreatureOfLegend: just navigate to the mount point using nautilus03:46
green_earzKritical: ok03:46
IamEthosI saw some when I googled earlier, but can't find them again03:46
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: what's nautilus and how to I get to it?03:46
ian_useruser Check says: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2006-03-27 17:24 /mnt/Slave03:46
useruserCreatureOfLegend: Places > Computer03:46
useruserian_: that's all good03:46
lwizardlToma-, you try that?03:46
useruserian_: now run sudo mount -a -v03:46
riddleboxdoes anyone know why after doing updates my other users cannot log into gnome?03:47
davidmoore83Toma-, you tried xcfe?03:47
Toma-what?03:47
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: Ok. I'm there, but it doesn't have the flash drive.03:47
Toma-davidmoore83: yep. nice little DE03:47
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VineetI am able to listen to real audio from hard disk...but if I try to open sites which stream real audio...it does not work03:47
ian_useruser Says nothing was mounted03:47
useruserian_: darn03:47
KhaaaaanThis sucks, stupid DRM... I switch from Windows to Linux and now all my Ebooks have shit the bed03:47
Khaaaaan:(03:47
davidmoore83Toma-, you installed open office under it?03:47
useruserian_: can you paste that file again?03:47
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ian_useruser <shakes head> It's got to be me screwing something up... ID10T error...03:47
Toma-davidmoore83: no... why use a light desktop with a heavy editor? :/ if youre just typing, use abiword03:48
IdleOne!tell Khaaaaan about restrictedformats03:48
useruserian_: maybe, could just as easily be me :)03:48
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davidmoore83Toma-, i need this for work03:48
Bowsais liquid weather available for ubuntu03:48
davidmoore83Toma-, yet the office pc is crap :)03:48
leslieanyone know what would cause this error on wine? "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."03:48
corvaxwhen you did ail -f /var/log/messages  did you sdee03:48
useruserCreatureOfLegend: did you navigate to the mount point?03:48
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PuMpToma-03:48
Toma-davidmoore83: need to save to MS format?03:48
Toma-hi there03:48
PuMpi could make it work :D03:48
corvaxanything03:48
corvaxlikle this03:49
Toma-PuMp: :O good stuff! :D03:49
PuMpthey were the refresh03:49
corvaxAttached scsi removable disk sda at03:49
PuMpvalues03:49
davidmoore83Toma-, yes and could do with excel functionallity and powerpoint03:49
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: what do you mean to the mount point?  I'm in Places > computer and it doesn't say anything about mount03:49
VineetAm I missing something here? I installed realplayer, copied the plugins to firefox directory, but still firefox doesn't stream real-audio03:49
Khaaaaanpdf is a restricted format?03:49
Khaaaaanhrm03:49
useruserCreatureOfLegend: what command did you type to mount the drive?03:49
Bowsais liquid weather available for ubuntu03:49
Toma-PuMp: thought so. weird how the offical specs are not favorable with xorg!03:49
useruserKhaaaaan: shorely not03:49
ian_useruser Sent03:49
PuMpnow i just need to know how to enable nat03:49
CreatureOfLegendsudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt03:49
KhaaaaanApparently so...03:49
Toma-davidmoore83: ahh ok. well you can get a preloaded of openoffice to make it start quicker03:49
PuMpdapper recognize one of my ethernet that breezy didn't03:50
corvaxif its not fat that03:50
Toma-*preloader03:50
corvaxwont work03:50
Vineetok guys..bbye03:50
davidmoore83Toma-, what do you mean by that? - having realy issues installing it03:50
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davidmoore83Searching for the openofficeorg installation ...03:50
davidmoore83openoffice.org-en-GB-2.0.1-1.i586.sh: line 72: rpm: command not found03:50
davidmoore83Where do you want to install the language pack ? [] 03:50
useruserian_: if you load the file in gedit and press control-end, is the cursor at the start of a blank line?03:50
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: after I try this "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt" it says it's already mounted. but I can't see it :(03:50
green_earzKritical:http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html  > 10.6.1.7 Configuring virtual interfaces > iface eth0:0   the link may be of help ?03:50
useruserian_: if not, then hit enter03:50
ian_maruchan Think I know you....03:50
Toma-davidmoore83: oh... installing? rpm? what the..03:50
useruserCreatureOfLegend: in nautilus, type /mnt and press enter03:50
KhaaaaanI wonder if I would have better luck with XPDF03:50
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NewUlo all03:51
davidmoore83Toma-, see the error i recieved?03:51
useruserKhaaaaan: what are you trying to do?03:51
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: "/mnt: is a directory03:51
CreatureOfLegendthat's what it says when I do that03:51
useruserCreatureOfLegend: in nautilus, not in a terminal03:51
ian_useruser I think I'm confused....About that last part...03:51
NewUcan anyone help me with 3d accel on a ati card??03:51
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Toma-davidmoore83: try "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2-base"03:51
useruserian_: ok, do you still have the file loaded in gedit?03:51
Khaaaaanuseruser: read an ebook that I once had on my windows PC03:51
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: you said I get to nautilus by going to Places > computer.  That's like mycomputer in windows. It doesn't have anywhere to type in stuff.03:51
Toma-davidmoore83: woops.....03:52
PuMpanybody knows how to enable nat?03:52
Toma-davidmoore83: try "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2"03:52
KhaaaaanI moved to linux, and I cannot register it03:52
useruserCreatureOfLegend: correct03:52
Toma-no -base03:52
useruserCreatureOfLegend: just do it anyway03:52
useruserCreatureOfLegend: prepare to be amazed.... :P03:52
ian_useuser After I pasted that dev... into gedit I saved and quit gedit.03:52
useruserian_: ok. load the file in gedit again03:52
Toma-ubotu: tell NewU about ati03:52
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: how can I type /mnt somewhere when there is nowhere to type it in?03:52
useruserCreatureOfLegend: just type without worrying about that03:52
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useruserCreatureOfLegend: pretend there's a nice big edit box if it makes you happy03:52
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: ok. Nothing happens03:53
lwizardlwhats the paste page for ubuntu03:53
useruserCreatureOfLegend: heh03:53
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Khaaaaanuseruser: It says I can't read it "in it's current state", then something about plugins03:53
davidmoore83Toma-, nice cheers mate - where you located btw?03:53
_jasonlwizardl: /topic03:53
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Toma-davidmoore83: australia03:53
no0ticis there any ndiswrapper mantainer?03:53
davidmoore83Toma-, ex pat or aus born?03:53
useruserCreatureOfLegend: ah, i forgot something :)03:53
Toma-no0tic: id say so. otherwise the package wouldnt exist03:53
useruserCreatureOfLegend: press control-l first, then type03:53
KhaaaaanI can't seem to find any other Adobe versions in synaptic....03:53
Toma-davidmoore83: au born :) im only 2203:53
CreatureOfLegendok. Ill try that03:53
ian_useruser Gedit opened...03:54
CreatureOfLegenduseruser: Ok that works. Thank you03:54
davidmoore83Toma-, i'm only 23 but i will be ex pat somewhere shortly need out the UK hell hole :)03:54
no0ticToadstool, here, I mean03:54
useruserCreatureOfLegend: np03:54
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nickruduseruser, that's the gtk file selector dialog, and yeah, it's great isn't it03:54
NewUdidnt help03:54
no0ticToma-, here, I mean03:54
NewUhave already read that guide03:54
useruserian_: ok, now press control-end03:54
NewUproblem is that ati driver install keeps throwing me out03:54
Toma-no0tic: no, but you can email him Maintainer: Andres Salomon <dilinger@debian.org>03:54
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lwizardlhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1094903:54
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useruserian_: does the cursor go to the end of the last line, or the start of a blank line?03:54
ian_useruser Cursor went to bottom of gedit03:54
no0ticToma-, thanks03:54
Toma-no0tic: np03:55
useruserian_: (i'm grasping at straws here, by the way)03:55
Toma-NewU: what are the errors?03:55
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ian_useruser <appreciates it> Cursor went to last line.03:55
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NewUsry to be unspecific buts its a generic error03:55
TheFaction20hey guys....i'm having an issue with my western digital external hard drive03:55
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KhaaaaanWell this stinks... useruser, should I try XPDF?03:55
useruserian_: is the last line blank, or is it the line you pasted?03:55
NewUhave looked over it with more experienceed heads03:55
ian_useruser Blank03:55
useruserian_: ok, that's as it should be03:56
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ian_useruser <is glad!>03:56
useruserian_: hm03:56
corvaxis this external hardriveday?03:56
corvaxor what03:56
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TheFaction20lol corvax03:56
leslieanyone know how I might fix this wine error? "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."03:56
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useruserian_: and df still says nothing about /dev/hda1 ?03:56
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davidmoore83Toma-, how do i get the other office packages?03:56
NewUToma: the consensus is that i gotta uninstall the exsisting ati stuff that ships with Ub 5.1003:56
TheFaction20i've been trying forever trying to get this thing to work03:56
ian_useruser HM?03:56
Toma-NewU: what is this generic error? look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:56
NewUI have03:57
TheFaction20i always get to a different point whenever i get some one new03:57
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NewUToma: can't remember off-hand (not on system now)03:57
Toma-davidmoore83: run "apt-cache search openoffice.org2"03:57
useruserian_: that is, when you type df into a terminal (that program tells you about free hard disk space, and mentions all mounted filesystems) .. there's nothing about /dev/hda1?03:57
rob138is there a terminal command that will send a message to all users logged into the computer?03:57
NewUbut its next to useless03:57
Toma-NewU: well thats not really going to help.03:57
glickis libstdc++6 available on hoary?03:57
ian_useruser Good news: DF reports Slave.  Bad news: I have no idea what you meant with HM..03:57
useruserian_: ok, never mind03:57
NewUappreciated, hang on03:57
useruserian_: that means it's all working!03:57
Toma-ok03:57
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ian_useruser Can I smoke a victory cigarette now? ;)03:58
useruserian_: you should see 9 or 10 gigs of free disk space on /dev/hda1 reported by df03:58
useruserian_: sure, if you want CANCER :P03:58
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ian_useruser :P03:58
Toma-davidmoore83: getting the openoffice.org2 package will get the suite, meaning most/all of the programs03:58
neo911what application (sort of organizer app) do you guys use to put your todo list in? and what pkg is it? thx03:59
davidmoore83Toma-, thanks03:59
ian_useruser /dev/hda1              9249520    131228   8648440   2% /mnt/Slave03:59
rambo2981it's been months since i first installed ubuntu and finally i've my project; silly me i forget the root password and also my user password (dumb); anyway i can reset it?03:59
useruserian_: i dunno if it'll appear in places > computer or on the desktop or not03:59
nickrudrob138, wall03:59
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ian_useruser I don't see it, but I haven't used Search for files...03:59
KhaaaaanWhere would Acroread files be located in my Filesystem??03:59
Toma-!mnemo03:59
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Toma-03:59
lwizardlcan someone take a look at the error i'm getting from a page on plf03:59
Toma-!info mnemo03:59
ubotumnemo: (Notes and Memo Application), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.1-2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 171 kB, Installed size: 1072 kB04:00
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Toma-neo911: ^^04:00
corvax!moo04:00
ubotumoo is, like, totally, moo04:00
tonyyarussoAnyone have experience with the 'import' command?  Please join us in -offtopic.04:00
neo911Toma- was that for me?04:00
useruserian_: ok. you could open places > computer, hit control-l and type /mnt, then drag Slave with the middle mouse button to the desktop and select link here04:00
neo911oh ok thx04:00
ian_useruser I think it says I only have 2% free...04:00
Toma-neo911: yeh, never used it tho04:00
lbf?04:00
useruserian_: nah, that's 2% used04:00
Toma-neo911: or even gtodo04:00
KhaaaaanLike if I wanted to navigate to it>??04:00
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lbfwhere?04:00
corvaxnew to apt try apt-get install moo04:00
_jasonrambo2981: I would boot with a livecd and set the root password to * in /etc/shadow, then boot in recovery mode and use passwd to set my passwords.  There is probably an easier way that I don't know of too :)04:01
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Toma-neo911: theres even gtodo-applet for the tray :)04:01
ian_useruser You're correct.  Again. ;)  Trying Control -L04:01
Toma-corvax: its "apt-get moo"04:01
neo911Toma-, you mean in mnemo?04:01
KhaaaaanGuys?04:01
Toma-neo911: no, gtodo04:01
rambo2981ok will try that04:01
corvaxsorry04:01
Toma-corvax: ;D04:01
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corvaxhavent done it in a long time04:01
NewUlet me ask this. has anyone got 3 acceleration working on an ati card in 5.10???04:01
NewUfor instance to play quake 3 or whatever04:02
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ian_useruser And if I have no middle mouse button?  (has scroll wheel that depresses)04:02
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neo911Toma-, k ill try that one too04:02
KhaaaaanOkay, let me phrase it this way, where does Adobe reader install too??04:02
Toma-sorry all, i gotta go04:02
Kriticalgreen_earz: that's what I've been reading through.. can't understand why it's not accepting the configuration :/ I honestly havn't edited anything.. I've only appended to the end of the file04:02
useruserian_: depressing that that *is* presing your middle mouse button :)04:02
ian_useruser Yep. It worked.04:02
Toma-cheerio04:02
useruserian_: great04:02
ian_useruser And select Move here?04:02
useruserian_: no, link here04:03
michael117Today when I booted, I was prompted to install updates and when I entered my password and tried to open it, I got this error message: "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root:04:03
michael117 Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."04:03
ian_useruser Ok, done.  What's the little red padlock simbol next to the link to Slave icon?04:04
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neo911anyone have used Windows Vista trial? is it really better than XP?04:04
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useruserian_: it probably means you have to use sudo to delete that dir04:04
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ian_neo911 LINUX is better than XP.04:04
green_earzKritical: paste the file in #flood or use a pastebin site, so i can have a look at it04:04
michael117neo911: fuck vista04:05
ian_useruser Good.04:05
_jasonmichael117: what does 'ls -l ~/.{X,ICE}authority' say?04:05
neo911ian_, i know that alrady04:05
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corvaxlol asking about vista in a  linux channel04:05
jax0msudo find / -type f -exec grep -Hn your_root_password_here '{}' \;04:05
jax0mi recommend all of you do that04:05
jax0mto find the installer bug04:05
ian_neo911 Then why are you concerned with Vista.  Linux is better than that too.  It's free and not related to G*tes.04:05
jax0mbefore someone roots you :P04:05
glickgates is a cool guy04:06
glickdont diss gates04:06
ian_useruser Thank you so much man...04:06
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KhaaaaanWhere can I find the adobe acrobat directory?????/04:06
michael117_jason: -rw-------  1 root    root     118 2006-03-09 17:25 /home/michael/.Xauthority04:06
KhaaaaanDoes anyone know??04:06
corvaxyeah gates is cool04:06
corvaxlol04:06
useruserian_: come to think of it, you probably want to run sudo chown `whoami`:`whoami` /mnt/Slave/ so that you don't need sudo to write stuff into that dir04:06
glickhis company is a preditory monster, but gates himself, the man, is a cool an humanitarian dude04:06
_jasonmichael117: have you been running gui programs with sudo?04:06
riddleboxwhat would cause one user to not be able to log in after a bunch of updates?04:06
useruserian_: np04:06
corvaxhis mob style tactics are "coo"04:06
useruserKhaaaaan: did you install it04:06
glicki admire gates04:07
glicki dont like what MS does04:07
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michael117_jason: maybe like nautilus a week ago to access some folders belonging to root04:07
glickbut i admire gates04:07
rambo2981does anyone know how the EU keeps MS in check?04:07
ian_useruser Should I get a confirm or anything from typing that?04:07
useruserrambo2981: immense fines?04:07
corvaxrambo it DOESNT04:07
corvaxnoone does04:07
rambo2981nope ... s/w patents are illegal04:07
jadaz87rambo2981 FINES04:07
useruserian_: no, most stuff in unix only complains when stuff goes wrong04:07
_jasonmichael117: use gksudo when you do that, not sudo.  Did it say anything for ICEauthority?04:07
ian_useruser New to Command line interface besides MSDOS.04:07
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green_earzglick: mark shuttleworth is the humanitarian in my eyes04:07
corvaxms and its lobbyists own the govt04:07
michael117_jason: -rw-------  1 michael michael 1431 2006-03-27 15:42 /home/michael/.ICEauthority04:07
NewUdoes anyone have 3d acceleration enabled on an ati card???04:08
neo911when you install using synaptic, what location does the app go? i usually have this problem locating how to run the app whenever it doesnt create an icon in the menu04:08
ian_useruser Ok, last question , and if you'd like to be left alone I can ask somebody else..04:08
_jasonmichael117: 'sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.Xauthority'04:08
useruserian_: go ahead04:08
corvaxugh dont get me started04:08
glickgreen_earz: mark shuttleworth too, i admire him too04:08
green_earznp04:08
Drac[Server] Where are the session desktop files stored for GDM?04:08
ian_useruser I have a 30G with Darkstar on it.  Not mine.  Previous owner installed it.  When looking through all the HD's given to me I found this out.04:08
nickrudneo911, it gets parted out in various places ; dpkg -L <packagename> | grep /bin will tell you the executable file names04:09
michael117_jason: okay, now what?04:09
Sergi0neo911 within synaptic locate that package, check with the property button on top of the screen, all of the info is there04:09
ian_useruser I couldn't reformat it (I was using XP then)...It was aslo PW protected...04:09
_jasonmichael117: now it should work04:09
ian_useruser Can I install this HD into my comp and nuke it too?04:09
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useruserian_: don't see why not04:09
rambo2981jason i've booted the live cd and in gedit i try to open /etc/shadow but access is denied; also i see a shadow and a shadow-04:09
BlueHeronian_: i put an HD into my comp the other day to reformat it :-P04:10
corvaxdban is greak04:10
_jasonrambo2981: make sure you edit the /etc/shadow on your mounted drive.  And use sudo04:10
corvaxgreat even04:10
BlueHeronian_: you can use gparted04:10
Kriticalgreen_earz: http://pastebin.com/62624304:10
useruserian_: unless there's password protection in the hardware (i never heard of that) you should be able to happily nuke just about everything :)04:10
rambo2981k will try now04:10
neo911i just installed mnemo and did "dpkg -L mnemo | grep /bin" but it showed nothing04:10
neo911nickrud,04:10
rambo2981do i have to manually mount the HD or will the live cd version from cd do that?04:10
_jasonrambo2981: make sure you make a backup of the file before editing it04:10
_jasonrambo2981: manually04:10
ian_useruser Is there a FAQ or Walk-thru that I can read to do this?  And how do I ensure Ubuntu will load and not the Darkstar?  (had prob of DStar loading no matter what jumper config and not allowing XP to boot)04:10
michael117_jason: ... it doesn't04:10
Drac[Server] GDM session files? Anyone?04:11
_jasonmichael117: does it still give you the error?04:11
nickrudSergi0's method works also neo91104:11
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_jasonmichael117: (same error)?04:11
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useruserian_: the booting thing is between your bios and your drive04:11
rambo2981sorry i am a newby; cmd pls to mount the HD?04:11
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bkfhello!04:11
ian_useruser  Thought so.  Wondered if I'd forgotten to reconfig bios then.. ;)04:11
Sergi0hi04:11
useruserian_: it depends on your motherboard and so on. i don't know of a howto, but it sounds like gparted is worth a shot04:11
michael117_jason: indeed. although, the "ls -l ~/.{X,ICE}authority" command that you told me now says that I am the owner of both things04:12
ian_useruser Gparted?04:12
useruserian_: someone else mentioned it just now, it sounds like a nice point and drool gui :)04:12
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ian_useruser Find it in SPM?04:12
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michael117_jason: will it probably affect me next time I boot?04:12
useruserian_: more than likely04:12
bkfi want to install the java plugin...04:12
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_jasonmichael117: you can try04:12
bkfhow can i make it?04:12
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ian_useruser Ubuntu Breezy compatible?04:12
nickrudneo911, for example, if I type in a terminal  dpkg -L gedit | grep bin , it tells me the command is /usr/bin/gedit04:12
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useruserian_: if it's there, probably04:13
_jasonubotu: tell bkf about java04:13
useruserian_: i never used it04:13
shooeehello04:13
shooeecan you guys help me, i need to setup dialup on ubuntu. but it doesnt see my modem04:13
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nickrud!dialup04:14
ubotuit has been said that dialup is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto04:14
fiendskull9hey04:14
ian_useruser Okie. If not, I'll ask somebody to walk me through eagain.  Sombody other than you. ;)  I don't want you to spend your whole night helping me. ;)04:14
fiendskull9is there a command to reset all my sound alsa settings?04:14
Carbyseems to me most of the proplems ppl are having are with xserver (then maybe again i am thinking that because i am not getting into gnome atm)04:14
useruserian_: ok:)04:14
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ian_useruser Thank you again.  So glad to have XP finally toasted and gone.04:14
nickrudshooee, see that ubotu link above, and read it carefully. a lot of modems & linux do not get along because the manufacturer didn't write a driver04:14
useruserian_: glad to help04:14
ian_useruser Am now a full linux convert! ;)04:14
ardchoilleYAY!04:14
shooeehmm04:14
ian_useruser Night man.04:14
IdleOneanybody know how I get quicktime?04:14
useruserian_: tata04:14
useruserIdleOne: don't think you can, not the official one04:15
green_earzglick: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/mpeg/2005-07-14/ > 02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg  and there is one of the episodes at >http://www.go-opensource.org/go_open/news/download_go_open/   that give a good background into is life04:15
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nickrudshooee, I have to go buy a new external myself04:15
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fiendskull9Mark shuttleworth is my main man.04:15
fiendskull9!alsa04:15
ubotuit has been said that alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix04:15
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IdleOneuseruser, there is a libquicktime1 package and I installed it but still cant listen to radio station04:15
djs_2_6Hey all.  On a new install of breezy, and I am getting an error when trying to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686-smp_2.6.12.4-11.1_i386.deb.  The error is "failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)".  Can anyone please help me?04:16
useruserIdleOne: dunno, sorry04:16
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IdleOneuseruser, np04:16
_jasonmichael117: another thing you can try is 'chown -R $USER:$USER ~' to make sure you own all of the stuff in your home directory04:16
useruserIdleOne: i think quicktime support for linux is very out of date though04:16
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useruserIdleOne: you may have better luck with mplayer04:16
useruserIdleOne: just a guess04:16
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green_earzfiendskull9: i wish there were more peaple like him04:17
shooeei was wondering04:17
shooeeis there anyway to load ubuntu on a moded xbox?04:17
neo911thx Sergi004:18
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fortysixand2shooee:  this might help:  http://www.xbox-linux.org/04:18
shooeeok ty04:18
fortysixand2np04:18
corvaxi  run debian on a modded x box04:18
corvaxman is it slow04:18
corvaxbut it works04:19
shooee=\04:19
shooeeever tryed 2k?04:19
fiendskull9green_earz, did u hear ubuntu is gonna start putting more backend into kubuntu. Mark has started using kde as his default desktop.04:19
corvaxi started out with xebian04:19
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shooeedod you use a mod chip, or did you flash the TSOP?04:20
shooeedid*04:20
corvaxneither04:20
corvaxi did a softmod04:20
Carbyok, i am having a problem getting into gnome, xserver is complaining about some font stuff, but i dont think the thing that makes it incabable of starting04:20
shooeethats flashing the TSOP04:20
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Carbyso if someone has a few moments to glance at my xorg0.log04:20
Carbyhttp://www.pastebin.be/685/04:20
corvaxhmm04:21
IdleOneMplayer issues http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1095104:21
green_earzfiendskull9: i am a kde user, i do prefer it over gnome. two genral app i use that i find very good are kmail and kconsole04:21
corvaxi did it with a mechassault gamesave04:21
neo911can i collate all these help, put it in a text publish it in a book and  collect royalties? :-)04:21
corvaxsure04:22
green_earzfiendskull9: kconsole is very good with its tabbing option04:22
Carbyi'm gonna move over to kde because of kate04:23
neo911who is kate?04:23
djs_2_6lol @ neo91104:23
Carbykate is the editor for kde04:23
neo911kate doesnt like gnome?04:23
corvaxyou can install kate04:23
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Carbyi have it in my gnome now04:23
Carbybut i dont like having kde apps installed on gnome for some reason04:24
corvaxloll04:24
neo911djs_2_6, i was just kidding04:24
brennercarby: so you can run other DEs then04:24
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djs_2_6neo911 - I had figured...04:24
TTT_Travishow do I read windows formatted floppies?04:24
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brendan_hey how do add repositories?04:24
TTT_TravisI have a floppy disk and it won't let me access it04:24
gabbah_ubuntuanyone running dapper and compiz/Xlg and has an nvidia card?04:24
green_earzfiendskull9: thanks for that i just aptitude show it and looks intresting04:24
Carbyi am pretty much new to linux and i dont know yet what things will generally cause problems, if installing kde packages will make trouble in for gnome f.ex.04:25
neo911TTT_Travis, in Synaptic->Settings->Repositories04:25
neo911!repository04:25
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo91104:25
neo911!repositories04:25
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:25
TTT_Travisneo911 I only have command line04:25
TTT_TravisI have those enabled04:25
TTT_Traviswhats the package called?04:25
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htrpwhat is that thing called, so you can run windows on linux?04:26
corvaxapt04:26
htrpor vice versa04:26
neo911try installing Synaptic if you havent already, it's much s04:26
Amaranthhtrp: wine04:26
neo911easier and safer i think04:26
htrpno04:26
fortysixand2htrp:  VMWare?04:26
void^vmware, qemu04:26
htrpqemu!04:26
corvaxnano etc/apt/sources.list04:26
Amaranthbut all you need for 'windows' floppy support is vfat, which we have04:26
Amaranthso a floppy should work fine04:26
TTT_Travisk04:26
TTT_TravisI'll try04:26
djs_2_6Hey guys, I just figured out my error, and have no idea how to fix it.  I ran out of room on /.  I partitioned the drive using the max for it, 294MB, and it is now full...04:26
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neo911can you alt-tab from windows to linux and vice versa using VMWare?04:27
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corvaxits sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:27
GNU_Stylewhen I boot it say module minix not found, why?04:27
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Carbyno one has any ideas on my xserver problem?04:28
Carbyhttp://www.pastebin.be/685/04:28
Carby:/04:28
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IdleOneMplayer issues http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1095104:29
TTT_Traviswhat is the command to mount a vfat floppy?04:30
rambo2981jason i try to mount the file system where i think /etc/shadow is and the mount fails with "cant find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab"04:30
void^IdleOne: create a symlink ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf to a font of your choice04:30
djs_2_6Anyone have any ideas for me?  Am I sol?04:30
IdleOnevoid^, gotta decent font I could use?04:31
useruserdjs_2_6: that's uncomfortably small for a linux installation04:31
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void^IdleOne: hrm, i'm using luximr.ttf here, not sure if it's decent. can't remember if i watched anything subbed on this machine yet.04:32
GNU_Styleis flight 5 safe to install?04:32
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djs_2_6useruser - I did it based off of what debian had laid out.  I have /usr, /var, /tmp, /home, and /.  Is that not right?  Does ubuntu act so differently from debian?04:33
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_damianhi04:33
Khaaaaanhmmm anyone know how to crack Adobe DRM?04:33
IdleOnevoid^, can you give me the command ?04:33
rambo2981anyone know how to mount the HD linux partition so i can clear out the root password in /etc/shadow? i booted from the live cd04:33
djs_2_6Khaaaaan - Bad question to ask in public...04:33
KhaaaaanYea, but it gets attention and I need help04:33
void^IdleOne: in .mplayer, ln -s /usr/some/font.ttf subfont.ttf04:34
useruserKhaaaaan: it's a hard problem, i think04:34
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levanderWhen I 'lsof /var/lib/dpkg' I get: "WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev".  Does lsof not support ext3?04:34
Khaaaaanuseruser: But is it possible?04:34
useruserKhaaaaan: probably not04:34
fortysixand2rambo2981: mount /dev/<your partition> -t <file system type> /mnt/<directory you want to use>04:34
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GNU_Stylea litle help here please:04:34
neo911anyone using gtodo? have you tried snych'ing your todo list in one machine and another? thx04:34
Khaaaaanuseruser: I did find this...04:35
Khaaaaanhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/01/msg02427.html04:35
Carbywell i guess i will have to come back another time04:35
punkrockguy318If i wanted to check for a package in a certain repository, how would I do that?04:35
Carbymaybe there is someone on who knows this stuff04:35
Carbylater guys04:35
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_damianhow do i stop ubuntu from automatically configuring network settings at startup problem is im changing my dns settings in the network confog box (networking) and they work but opn startup ubuntu is detecting the wrong ones and resetting them04:35
IdleOnevoid^, sorry but that didnt help me and there is no fonts under ./mplayer04:35
sachifhmcm04:35
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djs_2_6useruser, did I totally screw up?  If so, is it possible to fix without a reinstall?04:36
void^IdleOne: yes, that's why you need to create a link to a font there.04:36
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glickcool video green_earz04:36
useruserdjs_2_6: maybe you could use gparted or something similar to expand the partition?04:36
Bowsahello can anyone tell me how to install a skz file04:36
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BlueHeronwhats the cmd to get out of a full screen app without closing it?04:36
useruserKhaaaaan: are you trying to open a pdf?04:36
djs_2_6useruser - So, in spite of the other partitions, I still need a larger / ??04:37
useruserKhaaaaan: because acrobat 6.0 for linux now exists04:37
useruserKhaaaaan:  you could try that04:37
rambo298146+2 says only root can do that; i thought booting from the live cd would make me root04:37
useruserdjs_2_6: oh, i dunno04:37
gn0meLately I've been unable to change resolutions with ctrl+alt+plus or minus. Anyone else getting that?04:37
useruserdjs_2_6: i was assuming you meant that / is full04:37
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Khaaaaanuseruser: Gotta pay thought correct?04:37
fortysixand2rambo2981: have you tried using sudo?04:37
djs_2_6useruser - It is, according to the resource manager04:37
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useruserKhaaaaan: no, not for acrobat reader04:37
void^IdleOne: if you don't know where your fonts are, i suppose you could run find /usr -name "*ttf"04:37
BlueHeronwhats the cmd to get out of a full screen app without closing it?04:37
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useruserdjs_2_6: well you should expand that then unless you want to do hairy tricks with mounting04:37
TheMinionwhen i try to load totem it tells me that it cannot load because the output device is in use by another program04:37
rambo2981no ... where can i find it? in the system dropdown?04:38
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Bowsahello04:38
Bowsadoes anyone know what a skz file is for04:38
punkrockguy318found my own answer.. apt-cache showpkg04:38
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KriticalDoes anyone know a way to restore the /etc/network/interfaces file?04:38
Khaaaaaneh I am done here for now... later guys04:38
_damianhow do i stop ubuntu from automatically configuring network settings at startup problem is im changing my dns settings in the network confog box (networking) and they work but opn startup ubuntu is detecting the wrong ones and resetting them04:38
mc|ambhi, can anyone tell me what is the plug-in gnomebaker needs to handle mp3s??04:38
Khaaaaanthanks for your help useruser :)04:39
fortysixand2rambo:  try adding sudo to the command I showed you, and enclose the original command in double quotes04:39
green_earzglick: thanks04:39
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fortysixand2rambo2981: sudo goes at the beginning, btw04:39
rambo2981i found it04:39
rambo2981ok sudo mounted it; but i dont think it did it right; i entered04:40
brennerBowsa: try 'file <filename>'04:40
rambo2981sudo mount /dev/hda1 -t ext3 /etc04:40
nathanaelhello04:40
Bowsabrenner: do you know if liquid weather works with ubuntu04:41
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fortysixand2rambo2981: try this  mkdir /mnt/disk04:41
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IdleOnevoid^, ty04:41
fortysixand2rambo2981: then sudo "mount /dev/hda1 -t ext3 /mnt/disk"04:41
rambo2981sheesh; permission denied04:41
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fortysixand2sudo mkdir /mnt/disk04:42
newtoubuntuhey can anyone recomend a dummy proof p2p for ubuntu04:42
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GigaClonbit torrent04:42
green_earzfortysixand2: thanks i just been playing about with kate and fish in konqueror, looks intresting. it looks like fish for ssh can run direct from kate ?04:42
rambo2981uid 1000 does not exist in the passwd file04:42
rambo2981when i sudo mkdir /mnt/disk04:42
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TimelineHey everyone04:42
fortysixand2riiiiiiiiight.  hmmm04:42
djs_2_6Is there any way to forcibly unmount / so that I can resize it?04:42
newtoubuntuI've tried it and too many files don't have hosts, somthing more along the limewire line04:42
brennerBowsa: no04:43
IdleOneI can only here Ubuntu sounds. cant here anything when using mplayer?04:43
rambo2981basically i forgot the root passwd and am trying to scrub it in /etc/shadow04:43
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fortysixand2rambo2981: can you get to a root shell in the live cd?  "su -"04:43
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rambo2981:) "sorry"04:44
newtoubunturambo: there is no root pass word in ubuntu type "sudo" and then your passeord04:44
ian_Would somebody be willing to help a n00b with formatting a HD?04:44
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fortysixand2newtoubuntu: there is if you set one and then forget it04:44
PabloI can prolly ian_04:44
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djs_2_6ian_ - Install gparted, and the rest is easy...04:44
rambo2981i forgot ALL passwords!!! i installed it 2 months ago and finally have the the project i installed it for04:44
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rambo2981like a moron i didnt write them down04:44
newtoubuntuI never got one I just use "sudo" whatever04:45
Pablolol04:45
mebeownsugahWAZ up wvweybody04:45
fortysixand2rambo2981: so can you not get a root shell?04:45
rambo2981nope04:45
fortysixand2maybe try "sudo bash"04:45
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rambo2981says "Sorry."04:45
newtoubuntuso any good p2ps04:45
Pablotry a boot disk and edit the /etc/shadow04:45
rambo2981same uid 1000 error04:45
ian_Pablo: Ok, here's the scenario...I have a 30G (I believe) HD that has a PW locked Darkstar Linux OS on it.  I was given the HD in a box with other stuff and it's time to wipe this drive and use it, or throw it away..04:45
djs_2_6useruser - Is it possible to unmount / forcibly to resize it?  If so, how?04:45
nikinewtoubuntu, check out frostwire (limewire) and nicotine (slsk)04:46
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ian_djs_2_6: I've Done so.04:46
CyorxampOk folks - (deep end time) - I want to recompile my kernel - How?04:46
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newtoubuntufrost wire I'm having troble intalling , what command do I use in the terminal04:46
gn0meHas anyone else been unable to change resolutions using the keyboard hotkeys?04:46
fortysixand2rambo2981: so sudo no longer works in the Live CD?  Have you rebooted and tried again?04:46
nikinewtoubuntu, i got it from Automatix04:46
nootropeum... is Automatix a bad out-loud word around here?04:46
rambo2981i will04:46
default06For Gaia's sake, the questions it burns us!04:47
newtoubuntuwhat is automatix?04:47
nikiautomatix rocks04:47
fortysixand2sudo should work04:47
TimelineIs there a way I can SSH files directly to my var/www folder?04:47
newtoubuntuwhat does it do?04:47
nikinewtoubuntu, its a program that installs a whole buncha crap for you in one shot...i run it when i first install04:47
nootropedoes anyone know if Automatix creates a log during its run?04:47
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newtoubuntuoh cool, good crap right, it doesn't bog down your system04:47
brennergn0me: why would you anyway...i seem to just get a zoom in/out of the top left corner effect.  better to just use the randr gui tool04:47
nikinewtoubuntu, things like codecs, p2ps, firefox plugins...04:47
Syco54645can anyone help me out with a case statement in bash.  i cannot figure out how to select ranges like 10 to 2004:48
nikinewtoubuntu, it didn't bog down mine, just saved me a buncha time04:48
nootropenewtoubuntu: it downloads and instals a lot of extras...like multimedia apps04:48
ian_Pablo and Djs_2_6: I've installed Gparted, and when I open it up I see error message "The kernel is unable to re-read the partitiontables on the following devices:04:48
ian_- /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root04:48
ian_Because of this you will only have limited access to these devices.04:48
ian_Unmount all mounted partitions on a device to get full access."04:48
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newtoubuntunice i'll check it out thanx04:48
default06Ok people I'm not going to add to your misery, I'll just say that I think you are doing a terrific job by helping with ubuntu troubleshoting04:48
gn0mebrenner: Because in the TwinView metamodes I can turn off one monitor and stuff, good for gaming. Just wondering why the hotkeys don't work.04:48
knoppixhey04:48
default06contratulations and off I go04:48
IdleOnecan someone give me a little shove with sound issues? I can here ubuntu system sounds but nothing else04:49
djs_2_6ian_ - I personally, when I have a stubborn hard disk, I boot from an OBSD cd and run fdisk on it.  Nothing has failed so far...04:49
knoppixdd if=/dev/sda of=mbr bs=512 count=1 --it says /dev/sda device not found why?04:49
useruserdjs_2_6: you could probably use the live cd to do it, assuming the partition tool is on it04:49
djs_2_6Hmm04:50
ian_djs_2_6: OBSD?04:50
TimelineCan anyone answer my question about SSH?04:50
djs_2_6ian_ - OpenBSD04:50
ian_djs_2_6: <--Is truly a Linux n00b...Don't know how to compile yet.  Still reading the readme....04:50
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green_earzfortysixand2: the export html in kate is very handy. just been checking it out04:51
ian_djs_2_6 However I've had to use fdisk several times now in terminal (i think)04:51
fortysixand2yeah?04:51
michaelI think my system is a little messed up, i followed the directions of something not to long ago about using an iPod.04:51
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knoppixdoes anybody know how to dd?04:51
michaelWhen I try to connect my iPod it loads in the /mnt directory04:51
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djs_2_6ian_ - No compiling, just burn the base install on a cd and boot from it...04:51
rootcan someone tell me where i can edit the grub config file?04:51
roothello?04:52
rootlag04:52
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riddleboxwhat would cause one user to not be able to log in after a bunch of updates?04:52
steven_laptophello all04:52
roothello04:52
brennerroot: geeze, be patient04:52
ian_djs_2_6 Is there another way to do this?  My badwidth sucks... And I don't have anything to burn on (cdrs or diskettes).04:52
brennerroot: /boot/grub/menu.lst04:52
JamsiAnyone a evolution genius here04:52
ian_djs_2_6 <--Is poor as well as n00b.04:52
rootthanks04:53
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nikican someone help me?  when i run certain games, such as planetpenguin-racer, it runs rrrrrrrrrrreal slow...any ideas?04:53
steven_laptop6.06 is nice04:53
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djs_2_6ian_ - Go an find a disk tools disk from one of the hard drive manufacturers.  Their software is one disk you can boot from, and usually will kill most partitions...04:54
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jax0mcmds.c:1071: error: label at end of compound statement04:55
jax0mmake: *** [cmds.o]  Error 104:55
jax0many idea how i can fix this?04:55
steven_laptopniki: its got to do with you video or disply setting04:55
jax0mi'm missing some dev files but i'm not sure what04:55
djs_2_6ian_ - You should be able to find their images to download from the manufacturers sites.  Western Digital had a decent for a long time...04:55
brennerniki: is the game 3d?04:55
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ian_djs_2_6 Is there a help file this ubotu can point me to for formatting?04:55
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nikibrenner, yes04:55
ian_!Format04:55
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ian_04:55
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ian_!Format Hard drive04:56
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ian_04:56
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brennerniki: have you set up your video drivers?04:56
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nikibrenner, no, how do i do this?04:56
brendan_ok im installign soe packages and i get,  Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?, what do i do to say yes?04:57
TimelineHow can I SSH files to the /var/www folder?04:57
brennerniki: what card do you have?04:57
Nameeaterdoes ubuntu have tho arts package?04:57
neo911what to do / organizer app do you use for ubuntu? i installed gtodo but it seems it doesnt save to file.04:57
Timelinebrendan: type y and press enter04:58
nikibrenner, i'm not really sure....my dad just gave me this computer04:58
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neo911!windows vista04:58
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo91104:58
neo911!windows04:58
ubotuneo911: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:58
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brennerniki: pastebin the output of 'lspci'04:58
JamsiTimeline, umm .. yes. Using SCP04:59
JamsiPrefered way is FTP ..04:59
mary-katehow do i set up virtual hosts in ubuntu, Breezy Badger? (or do i need some kind of software)04:59
Timelinewhat's SCP04:59
Mattysecure ftp04:59
fortunatohuh04:59
ian_Anyone know a good Walk-thru on formatting a HD for Ubuntu?05:00
TimelineNickGarvey told me to SSH/SFTP them to /home, but I want to put them directly into the var/www05:00
fortunatothen do it05:00
fortunatogoodbye05:00
neo911what to do / organizer app do you use for ubuntu? i installed gtodo but it seems it doesnt save to file.05:00
brennerian_: you doing a dualboot system?05:00
Timelineit won't let ne05:00
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JamsiTimeline, is this your machine05:00
JamsiOr someone elses05:00
ian_brenner Nope.  I just wiped (with help from here) my old XP dualboot HD.05:00
TimelineIt won't let me SFTP anything into the /var/www05:01
mary-katethere should be somewhere on the ubuntu cd that says resize05:01
TimelineIt's my web server05:01
nikibrenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1095505:01
ian_brenner: I just want to wipe another hard drive for use with Ubuntu.05:01
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ian_brenner One big empty space for storage...Make sense?05:01
mary-katei wiped both my laptops for ubuntu05:01
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cubikdicethats how we do it05:01
cubikdicelinux gangstas05:01
cubikdicelol05:01
nikiw0rd05:02
neo911mary-kate, :-)05:02
neo911hey anyone know a good to-do app/organizer for ubuntu?05:02
brennerian_: you can format the drive when you install ubuntu05:02
TimelineSo how do I change the permissions, or whatever, to allow me to SFTP into the /var/www05:02
TheFaction20hi...in the past few days i've been trying to get my external usb hard drive to function but it won't work05:02
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mary-katethere's resize and erase05:03
brendan_what dp i do when it asks me this??:  Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?05:03
mary-katei just pick erase hehe05:03
JamsiTimeline, where are the files that you want to put in the /var/www05:03
godjoin ubuntu.cn05:03
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JamsiAre the files on another computer?05:03
_jasonbrendan_: if you want to continue, you press Y, if you don't, you press n05:03
god:join ubuntu.cn05:03
_jasonbrendan_: followed by enter05:03
CyorxampOk folks sorry about this but this is the last time I'll be in here05:03
mary-katedo you want to continue?05:03
seanTimeline: You only need to sign in as a user that can access those files05:03
mary-kateif yes, press Y05:03
CyorxampI'm going back to windows - linux just is not ready05:03
_jasongod: try with a /join #ubuntu.cn05:03
seanTimeline: Try logging in as wwwdata05:04
godthanks05:04
brendan_i do press y...and it aborts..05:04
nikiCyorxamp, quitters never win!05:04
_jasonbrendan_: capital Y maybe05:04
ian_brenner Do I want to install Ubuntu twice?  I'm running Ubuntu from my current (of 3) HD.  I have a second HD which I use as storage, and now I'd like to nuke my 3rd for the same purpose.05:04
TimelineJamsi: Yes, I'm using winSCP05:04
mary-katepardon me while i gag at windows, LOL05:04
neo911Cyorxamp, maybe you're not ready for linux05:04
JamsiTimeline, if the files are on another computer (windows pc), download a program called WinSCP and login using the root account. Then you can drag/drop the files from local PC to your website05:04
CyorxampNo Linux is not ready05:04
TheFaction20neo911:lol05:04
CyorxampI have my facts down to a T05:04
nikibrenner, did you get that pastebin i posted?05:04
JamsiTimeline, using winSCP, login using the root account05:04
brendan_tried both y n Y05:04
JamsiTimeline, should fix all your problems :P05:04
_jasonbrendan_: what are you trying to do?05:05
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TimelineJamsi: Oh, I didn't know I could login as root with WinSCP05:05
TheFaction20cyorxamp: theres a "s" in facts so u dont have all of them05:05
brennerian_: ah, i see.  in that case, just use a partitioning tool (the gparted livecd is nice apparently) to format it, then mount it in ubuntu05:05
neo911Cyorxamp, say that again and i will ban you on the intarweb05:05
TimelineJamsi: Is that safe?05:05
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mary-katehey a while back, i WAS gonna come in and ask for help with installing wireless using ndiswrapper05:05
mary-katebut i found a webpage that took me through it using even pictures05:05
ian_brenner: I installed Gparted but I get an error when it loads...One sec and I'll have the error for you.05:05
brendan_install some packages, codec to be precise05:05
CyorxampIt's cabability to use and configure drivers is just plain shite05:05
Cyorxamp*capability05:06
brendan_infact whatever i write..it aborts05:06
nikiCyorxamp, ok...see ya05:06
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brennerbrendan_: what packages? what codecs?05:06
_jasonbrendan_: pastsebin exactly what you are doing and the output please05:06
JamsiTimeline, its your machine05:06
neo911i will tell my friends at the pentagon to ban you from the intarweb05:06
JamsiOf course its safe as long as you don't start deleting things05:06
nikibrenner, did you get that pastebin i posted?05:06
brennerian_: don't bother, i'm not a gparted guy.05:06
TheFaction20can anyone help me with getting my usb external drive to work right?05:07
neo911so you cannot villify linux ever again05:07
useruserusing the ubuntu live cd, is there a way to save my session data to restore on reboot?05:07
JamsiYour SSH server "may" be configured not to accept root logins, but it should ..05:07
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JamsiIf not, have a look through the sshd_config05:07
brendan_ sudo apt-get install mjpegtools05:07
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mary-katewhat's SSHJ?05:07
mary-kateSSH?05:07
Jamsi..05:07
brennerniki: no, sorry, overlooked it.  my client's highlighting seems to have turned off.  post it again if you wish05:07
Mattyuseruser -- rather than use the liveCD -- may I suggest you goto VMWare.Com,and get the VMWare Player + the Ubuntu Virtual Machine?05:07
ian_brenner: Ok, is there another way for me to format this drive?  Just a clean nuke and mount?05:07
Jamsimary-kate, leave .. now. :P05:07
nikibrenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1095505:07
brendan_Need to get 850kB of archives.05:07
brendan_ After unpacking 2339kB of additional disk space will be used.05:07
brendan_ Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?05:07
mary-katewhy05:07
_jasonbrendan_: it really should work with capital Y :/05:08
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mary-kateis this how you treat people who wanna learn about ubuntu?05:08
Jamsibrendan_, press caps key, hit Y, press caps key05:08
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Jamsimary-kate, with a name like yours, I'm happy to help :)05:08
TheFaction20Matty, what do those things allow you to do?05:08
brennerniki: looking now05:08
Jamsihmm .. olsen twins ..05:08
alasdairGood morning! :D05:08
Jamsimornign!05:08
mary-katewhy do i need to leave?05:08
brennerbrendan_: you should be able to just press enter.  the capital Y means it's the default choice05:09
MattyTheFaction20 -- Allows you to run a full Ubuntu install from within a virtual machine, so that you can try it out/use without having to worry about procuring an actual hard drive/dual boot.05:09
brennernot to press capital Y05:09
CreatureOfLegendHello. It's me again. Question: does the command: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 make the computer connect to the internet to install the headers thing?05:09
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brendan_nope and nope.05:09
neo911CreatureOfLegend, it's not headers thing... it's headers thingy05:09
CreatureOfLegendOk ^_^ headers thingy05:10
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ian_brenner ?05:10
TheFaction20Matty:how much ram do they use up when ur running it?05:10
MattyTheFaction20 - you can spec what you want.05:10
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Jamsimary-kate, just kidding. How can I help you?05:10
brennerniki: you've got an ati card: install instructions here:05:10
brenner[14:10]  *** Now talking to ubotu05:10
brenner[14:10]  <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358905:10
brenner[14:10]  ubotu is n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au Ubuntu Bot05:10
brenner[14:10]  ubotu on #ubuntu05:10
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brenner[14:10]  ubotu using irc.freenode.net http://freenode.net/05:10
zerocoolhi everyone :-)05:10
MattyI wouldn't suggest less than 256...512 as a minimum05:10
brenner[14:10]  ubotu is identified to services05:10
brennercrap05:10
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brennersorry guys05:10
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CreatureOfLegendneo911: because I've got a whole bunch of errors that says no such file or directory and list URLs like http://security.ubuntu.com or us.archive.ubuntu.com05:11
nikibrendan_, thx :)05:11
CreatureOfLegendDoes that mean it's connecting to the net?05:11
mary-katei wanna learn how to set my own virtual host in Breezy Badger, but don't know how05:11
nikioops05:11
nikibrenner, thx :)05:11
brennerian_: that's what i was saying to do.  format the drive and then just mount it05:11
Drac[Server] Okay, I need to make sure a user can't edit its own settings. How can I do this?05:11
TimelineJamsi: It's asking for session password, but I never set a password on the /05:11
khanman02anyone know of a file manager that lets me see where most of my dada is being stored, my hd is full and i don't know where05:12
ian_brenner: Right, I need somebody to walk me thru this...I'm a total n00b to linux, but I love it already.05:12
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Atomskdoes anyone have any suggestions for hard disk cloning?05:12
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riddleboxwhat would cause one user to not be able to log in after a bunch of updates?05:12
MattyAtomsk -- Norton Ghost05:12
khanman02i saw this one which had a 3d pie chart of which your largest directories had the largest portion, something like that would be nice...05:12
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AtomskMatty: hmmm...I'd like something free :)05:12
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bvraelDCC SEND "JIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADI" 0 0 005:13
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MattyAtomsk -- Sorry. Can't really help with that :)05:13
Mattylol05:13
CreatureOfLegendQuestion: does the command: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 make the computer connect to the internet to install the headers thing?05:13
Mattystupid NAV05:13
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NickGarvey!apt05:13
ubotufrom memory, apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto05:13
brennerniki: the easiest method for you would be to use seveas' repos method i would think.  i doubt the driver version in the repos would work for you05:13
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GNU_StyleNickGarvey, hello, my linux hdd failed05:14
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nikibrenner, you kinda lost me....05:14
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JamsiTimeline, set a root password then..05:14
Jamsipasswd root05:15
JamsiI think.05:15
Timelineok05:15
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JamsiYeah05:15
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batmancan someone please tell me where the x.session fluxbox would be at?05:15
CreatureOfLegendubotu: it says it installs a new file but it does not say if it connects to the internet to do it.  Does it necessarily connect to the internet?05:15
ubotuCreatureOfLegend: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about05:15
NickGarveyGNU_Style: what do you mean failed?05:15
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brennerniki: hang on, do you have a 64bit cpu?05:16
NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: unless you have the CD in, yes it connects to the internet05:16
nikibrenner, not sure, how can i check?05:16
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CreatureOfLegendNickGarvey: I do have the cd in. Is there anyway to tell it to go to the CD instaed of the internet?05:16
brennerniki: cat /proc/cpuinfo and just tell us the cpu name05:16
TimelineHi NickGarvey05:16
NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: check /etc/apt/sources05:17
NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: check /etc/apt/sources.lst or something05:17
NickGarveyhello Timeline05:17
nikibrenner, Pentium III (Coppermine)05:17
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JamsiCreatureOfLegend, delete everything in /etc/apt/sources then type "apt-setup" and choose CD rom. follow the instructions.05:17
brennerniki: ok.  i've just re-read your lspci output.  you have a radeon 7000 it seems.  i don't think your card is supported by fglrx05:18
brennercan someone confirm this?05:18
ian_<--needs help formatting a HD without Gparted please.05:18
nikibrenner, ok...so what should i do then?05:18
ian_<--Is a n00b and would like somebody to guide him thru it.05:18
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mary-kate<--wants to create a virtual host in ubuntu for IRC such as freenode or undernet05:18
NickGarveyian_: without gparted?05:18
TimelineJamsi: It's still not taking the password through SCP05:19
Mattyian -- http://bootdisk.com/05:19
JamsiTimeline, what does it say?05:19
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ian_NickGarvey: Yeah, I get a wierd error when I load gparted...05:19
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CreatureOfLegendJamsi: /etc/apt/sources.list is a text file. Should I leave the file there and make it empty, or should I delete the file itself? (there is no sources directory that I can see in /etc/apt)05:19
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TimelineI changed the password ok, but winSCP just keeps reopening the password box05:19
JamsiCreatureOfLegend, make the text file empty05:19
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CreatureOfLegendok05:19
NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: I'd back it up before you do any of those things05:19
mary-katethis channel is going a little quick05:19
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NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: move sources sources_bak05:20
Timelinedo I type / or root as the username?05:20
ian_NickGarvey: The kernel is unable to re-read the partitiontables on the following devices:05:20
ian_- /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root05:20
ian_Because of this you will only have limited access to these devices.05:20
ian_Unmount all mounted partitions on a device to get full access.05:20
NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: mv* not move05:20
NickGarvey!paste05:20
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.05:20
Jamsimary-kate, yep. Get used to it :)05:20
JamsiTimeline, "root" as the username05:20
JamsiWithout quotes ..05:20
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NickGarveythen touch sources05:20
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brennerniki: i suggest searching for radeon 7000 at ubuntuforums.org05:20
nikibrenner, ok, thanks :)05:20
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NickGarveyian_: unmount it05:20
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ian_NickGarvey: How? ;)05:21
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dydimustkis there an ubuntu-security channel?05:21
TimelineJamsi: That got me in05:21
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nikianyone else seeing these same few user names log in and out of the channel?05:21
JamsiTimeline, glad to hear it.05:21
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JamsiYep niki05:22
msandersprobably that gay dcc exploit05:22
JamsiCan we get them banned?05:22
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trogg              *<-'   9/11 JEWS05:22
troggDID IT LOL    05:22
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Eleafmuh05:22
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ian_What's going on?05:23
nikigod someone do something05:23
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nikiabout these lamers05:23
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ian_Assault on channel?05:23
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NickGarveyian_: kill x and use umount05:23
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msandersprobably another channel they're in05:23
nikiian_, looks like it, huh? :)05:23
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Amaranthniki: Like what? Track them down and kill them?05:23
nikiAmaranth, i was more thinking someone could alert the ops :P05:23
brennerheh. i missed it05:23
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Amaranthpra5ad: Fix your router.05:24
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ian_NickGarvey: Where can I find an explicit (for absolute n00bs) explanation of that instruction?05:24
AmaranthwinXperts: Fix your router.05:24
steven_laptopanyone on 6.06 with vmware loaded?05:24
gamester|lol  DCC CHAT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS WWW.JEWSDIDWTC.COM NOW!05:24
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Amaranth*sigh*05:24
RugHowdy all05:24
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j-linuxMy ThinkPad is configured with two hard drives... There is a 40GB drive (sda1) with Windows in the main hard drive slot, and a 60GB Ubuntu drive on sdb1.  Ironically I can access my Linux drive while inside windows but not my windows drive from linux.  I tried sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 and that works, but if I try to "cd" into /mnt/sda1 it tells me that I don't have enough permissions... any ideas?05:24
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NickGarvey!umount05:24
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey05:24
jax0mlol05:24
msanderswtf.05:25
AmaranthUbugtu: Dude, start working.05:25
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msandersi took offense in that05:25
msandersi'm jewish05:25
Mattysteven_laptop -- I'm running 6.06 in VMware...does that count? :)05:25
CreatureOfLegendOk, I did that. then I typed apt-setup but now it says it can't find the cd rom. How can this be when I installed the OS via CD rom?05:25
TheFaction20Can someone help me with my external drive that likes to play hide and seek?05:25
_jasonAmaranth: he only works with ``send'' not ``chat'' apparently05:25
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NickGarveyian_: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/umount.htm05:25
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Amaranthok, that's enough of that05:25
BlueHeronwhat can i use on ubuntu so that i can use my nyko gamepad05:25
BlueHeron?05:25
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TimelineWhat is the proper way to shut down a ubuntu box? Do I need to type any commands, or can I just hit the switch?05:25
Amaranthwhen they ask to get back in tell them to fix their router first05:25
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BlueHeronTimeline: sudo shutdown now  -- use that05:26
unity!info openoffieg.org05:26
seanDoes this channel always get flodded with spammers such as that?05:26
steven_laptopMatty: im trying figure out y vmware wont loaded and if someone else has had this problem05:26
BlueHeronsean: some times05:26
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CreatureOfLegendthe cd rom is even mounted and I can see its contents in the file browser05:26
brennerj-linux, check out the fstab section here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:26
Mattysteven_laptop -- won't install or won't run?05:26
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steven_laptopwont run05:26
nikity ops05:26
TimelineBlueHeron Thanks05:26
j-linuxbrenner: thanks I will read that.05:26
unity!info openoffice.org05:26
ubotuopenoffice.org: (high-quality office productivity suite), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 1.1.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6707 kB, Installed size: 28920 kB05:27
steven_laptopMatty: it locks this thing up05:27
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NickGarveywhats the difference between halt and shutdown?05:27
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Mattysteven_laptop - ew...checked the logs?05:28
ian_NickGarvey: Thank you.  I'll log back in if I need addition assistance.05:28
NickGarveyokie05:28
NickGarveygood luck05:28
steven_laptopI did kernal locks up05:28
brennerniki: this one might be useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13505205:28
j-linuxbrenner: it's not a partition.. it's a separate hard drive.  I don't understand... I can mount it... the windows drive is already mounted.  I just can't "cd" into it because it says I don't have permissions.05:29
Mattysteven_laptop -- hrm...lemme try to install, gimme a minute05:29
nikibrenner, thanks, will read it now05:29
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j-linuxI can "sudo nautilus" and get into it, but that makes errors in nautilus05:29
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thegladiatorwhat command do you give when ur installation terminated halfway ? some dpkg -configure -a  command ?05:29
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naliothsean: misguided folks love to get their points across in highly populated channels05:29
thegladiatorI forget the exact command though05:29
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brennerj-linux: that's the thing.  it might be mounted with the wrong permissions.  so edit fstab so that it's accessible to you05:29
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j-linuxbrenner: ok... I'll check that out... thanks05:30
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thegladiatorplease someone?05:31
slythergirlhello05:31
thegladiatordpkg-reconfigure-a or somthing like that05:31
thegladiatorI cant recollect it05:32
_jasonthegladiator: man dpkg probably has it05:32
slythergirlwhat?05:32
j-linuxbrenner: my fstab says /dev/sda1, type ext3 (it's ntfs).  Is that something I should change?05:32
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thegladiatoryep05:32
imc1Anyone else running a Verizon EVDO card under Ubuntu?05:32
khanman02hello05:33
brennerj-linux: if it's ntfs then yeah, probably05:33
j-linuxI'm going to backup fstab and make some changes to sda1 (the windows partition).  :S  hope this works..05:33
nikibrenner, where is the xorg.conf file i have to edit?05:33
brennerniki: /etc/X11/05:33
Mattysteven_laptop -- this is GSX Server, right?05:33
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imc1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf?05:34
brennerniki: you can use locate <filename>05:34
nikibrenner, ah, ok, thx05:34
PseudoPlaceboHave any of you read Ender's Game & Speaker for the Dead?05:34
steven_laptopMatty: 5.5 workstation05:34
BlueHeronwhat can i use on ubuntu so that i can use my nyko gamepad05:34
unitydoes anyone know if there is a way to extract all the text, not the formatting, from an ooffice 1.1.5 document, without ooffice?05:34
Mattyohhhhh05:34
Mattyheh05:35
MattyI don't have a linux version of workstation, sorry05:35
steven_laptop:)\05:35
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unL33Tn00bWhat is the command in terminal to list all drives?05:35
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j-linuxWhat does it mean if my fstab does not match the partition names (sda1, etc) in fdisk -l?05:35
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brennerj-linux: pastebin both05:36
j-linuxunL33Tn00b: sudo fdisk -05:36
j-linuxsorry... sudo fdisk -l05:36
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j-linux(letter L, lowercase)05:36
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dleWhat is the Ubuntu webpage that mentions the decision re the delay of dapper?05:37
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_jason!dapper05:38
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)05:38
unL33Tn00bj-linux, Says unable to open?05:38
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TheFaction20What are some good lunux books you guys would reccomend05:38
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NickGarveyTheFaction20: O'Reilly is usually pretty good05:38
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j-linuxbrenner: http://pastebin.com/62630905:38
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CreatureOfLegendOk the installation seemed to go well. Thank you all!  BUt I have one more question: I'm doing the pppconfig thing and it asks whether I want to use a static or dynamic DNS (or none). I'm not sure which to choose. I'm connecting dialup to an internet provider, Which should I choose?05:38
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j-linuxunL33Tn00b: what did you type?05:38
unL33Tn00bj-linx sudo fdisk -05:39
j-linuxsudo fdisk -l05:39
j-linux(letter L, but lowercase05:39
unL33Tn00bahh05:39
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NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: I'd do dynamic05:39
CreatureOfLegendOk.05:39
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dlethanks, _jason.05:39
j-linuxunL33Tn00b: also do $ man fdisk05:40
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CreatureOfLegendNickGarvey: what about the authontication method?  It says either PAP, Chat or CHAP.05:40
brennerj-linux: pastebin mount's output too05:40
j-linuxbrenner: ok,,, just a sec05:41
NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: and thats where you lost me05:41
NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: not a dial up person, who is your ISP?05:41
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CreatureOfLegendNickGarvey: It's Highstream05:41
michaelhey peeps, i got my laptop working with my jukebox... now i need to get my ipod working on it... I tried a few command line things to get it to work b4 i realised it's nearly plug and play... When I attatch my iPod it shows up in /mnt instead of /media05:41
michaeland none of my progs read/write to it descent enough to work05:42
NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: use pap or chat05:42
j-linuxbrenner: http://pastebin.com/62631705:42
NickGarveychap***05:42
CreatureOfLegendOk.05:42
NickGarveyI wolud use CHAP though05:42
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brennerj-linux: no, just type 'mount'05:42
mike1lo05:42
j-linuxok05:42
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NickGarveyCreatureOfLegend: http://www.highstream.net/support/linux.asp05:42
mike1hey how do I get rid of my XP partition?05:43
j-linuxbrenner: http://pastebin.com/62631705:43
CreatureOfLegendNickGarvey: Oh wow! Thanks!! ^_^05:43
NickGarveyhmm..05:43
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NickGarveymike1: just format it05:43
NickGarveymike1: use like qtparted or something05:43
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cerebrixanyone here gone thru the cleartype-like fonts faq located at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976&page=1&pp=1005:44
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brennerj-linux: er, why has your NTFS partition been mounted as / ?05:45
j-linuxI don't know05:45
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j-linuxbrenner: my hard drives are strange.. it's a thinkpad.  The windows drive is in the main hard drive slot.  The linux one is in the ultrabay -- an adapter that sits where a CD drive normally would.  I don't have a cd drive05:46
unL33Tn00bWould somebody be willing to look at http://pastebin.com/626321 and tell me if they see a 30g HD in the list?05:46
j-linuxbrenner: I would have kept ubuntu in the main hard drive slot, but windows would not run from the ultrabay... so the ultrabay is my main os, and the regular hard drive slot is for windows.05:46
NickGarveymm nope05:46
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NickGarveylet me double check though unL33Tn00b05:46
brennerj-linux: well, all i'm gonna say is that afaik, fstab should match fdisk.05:47
NickGarveynope, I see a 8.5 gig and a 9.5 gig05:47
j-linuxbrenner: yeah... looks strange.  Maybe for now I will just reboot into windows to get my files and then go back to linux... :S05:47
NickGarvey9.4*05:47
unL33Tn00bNickGarvey: I should have 2 8-10Gb HD's with Ubuntu and one and nothing much on the other. It should be formatted for Ubuntu to use though....05:47
JamsiunL33Tn00b,  .. no05:47
j-linuxI would hate to accidentally destroy my ntfs partition.05:48
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NickGarveyunL33Tn00b: its not finding it05:48
unL33Tn00bNickGarvey: Ok, well, it be physically connected to my 'puter, but I can't get Ubuntu to see it...05:48
NickGarveyunL33Tn00b: does your BIOS see it?05:48
unL33Tn00bNickGarvey Yep...05:48
brennerj-linux: good idea05:48
NickGarveyunL33Tn00b: IDE channel 2 master?05:48
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j-linuxbrenner: thanks for your help... i will read up on fstab later and try to figure something out :S05:49
unL33Tn00bNickGarvey: I have no idea what you just said. :)05:49
NickGarveyunL33Tn00b: oh well its not on the same cable as the other 2 hard drives right?05:49
NickGarveyunL33Tn00b: and you know your BIOS sees it?05:49
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NickGarveyunL33Tn00b: like what makes you say it sees it05:50
cerebrixanyone here gone thru the cleartype-like fonts faq located at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976&page=1&pp=1005:50
unL33Tn00bnickgarvey Correct. It's where my second CD Drive used to be.  I have Yamaha CD Burner connected as well.05:50
NickGarveyunL33Tn00b: heh same thing I did05:50
NickGarvey!lspci05:50
ubotuNickGarvey: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:50
NickGarveyhmm, have you tried a boot cd?05:51
unL33Tn00bNickGarvey In BIOS it shows a second Maxtor HD.  I have One Maxtor ~10G, One Quantum Bigfoot HD (also~10G), and this new Maxtor (30G?) I just connected.05:51
unL33Tn00bNickGarvey Oh, and my Yamaha CD Burner...05:52
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NickGarveyshould be 3rd on the list? 4th?05:52
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unL33Tn00bNickGarvey I diconned my cd drive (nonburner) so I could fit the 30G HD in there...05:52
arrickNickGarvey: I finally gave up and put ubuntu on my laptop, and put XP PRo back on my server for the print server05:53
NickGarveywhat is the hard drive jumper set to05:53
Mythrilwhen I run 'ifup eth0'  I get the following error: sit0 unknown hardware address type 77605:53
NickGarveyarrick: you were working on samba?05:53
lubohello, can anyone help me please with my internet connection problem?05:53
arricknow how do I get my Belkin wirelessG card going?05:53
arrickyes05:53
CreatureOfLegendOh dear. I think I configured it ok. What do I type to connect to the internet?  The guide says pon or poff, but I type it and nothing happens, no error message except only when I typed it for the very first time, it said "No pppd is running. None stopped."  Now when I type it in just gives me another prompt line and no errors.05:53
NickGarveylubo: whats not working?05:53
unL33Tn00bNickGarvey: Ack, I'd have to shutdown to check...05:53
NickGarveyunL33Tn00b: eh not that important05:53
unL33Tn00bNickGravey: I have a FrankenBox. ;)05:53
NickGarveyunL33Tn00b: I'd try a boot CD and see if it sees it05:54
lubointernet coneection was working no problem... I got new route dsl-g604t05:54
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NickGarveyI need to make up on some sleep though05:54
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lubonow the problem is the internet is very slow... slow response05:54
B_166-ER-Xis there a way to burn .daa files under linux ?05:54
unL33Tn00bNickGarvey I have My Breezy CD Handy...Plug it in and...?05:54
arrickNickGarvey: you mean you sleep?05:54
luboconnection is working but is not as it should05:54
NickGarveyarrick: every so often, not much last night though, 1 and a half hours05:55
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arrick!wireleee05:55
ubotuarrick: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:55
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arrickme too05:55
arrick!wireless05:55
ubotuI heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers05:55
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shadeofgreywhere do i go to get the latest build of dapper?05:55
brendan_hey what windows emulators are good for trying to run games?05:55
NickGarvey!dapper05:55
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)05:55
unL33Tn00b;ubo Check net settings, under DNS delete IP starting with 168...05:55
NickGarvey!upgrade05:55
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.05:55
lubofor exmaple I'm using this connection for this IRC however I'm not able to go to www.google.com05:55
lubo:-))05:55
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logical_markHey guys I think I made a VERY amature mistake. I was playing around and typed "sudo chown -R (myusername) /etc" and now I can't run anything sudo b/c it says it is owned by my userid and not root's.05:56
luboI have dapper now:-)05:56
NickGarveylubo: set your connection to static05:56
lubonick I did that...05:56
logical_markThis is what appears now when I try and fix it: mark@1024Mark:~$ sudo chown -R root /etc05:56
logical_marksudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 005:56
NickGarveystill no google?05:56
lubosome pages are working some dont05:56
logical_markCan someone help?05:56
lubono !!05:56
NickGarveylubo: odd.. try to ping it05:56
luboI tryied roter with windows machine and no problems..05:57
Dr_Willislogical_mark,  time to boot to single user mode, or use a live cd.05:57
logical_markDr_Willis, what does that mean. Where do I go from there?05:57
lubo64 bytes from www.google.com (66.102.7.147): icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=181 ms05:57
luboping works..05:57
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lubothis is really strange..05:57
NickGarveylubo: um try refreshing?05:57
NickGarveylubo: realllly should be working05:57
luboit seems like something else is in the middle05:57
NickGarveylubo: can you plug your linux machine directly to the internet? no router?05:58
luboI get this error :- The server at gmail.google.com is taking too long to respond.05:58
Dr_Willislogical_mark,  you 'some how' get to the /etc/ dir from a live cd/single user mode and use the correct chmod command to set things back05:58
NickGarveylubo: just for trouble shooting purposes05:58
Dr_Willislogical_mark,  r--r----- 1 root root 403 2006-03-26 14:12 sudoers  - is the permissions needed on suders file05:59
luboNick: the router workis with windows no problem..05:59
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arrickHow to install Belkin Wireless G model F5D7010?05:59
arrickon ubunt05:59
arrickubuntu05:59
NickGarveylubo: yeah, but if that works then we know its the router, if it doesn't then we know its not05:59
robertjhow do you remove a file named "-i"?05:59
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NickGarveyrobertj: rm "-i"06:00
Dr_Willis rm '-i'06:00
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Dr_Willis:)06:00
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Dr_Willisor rm -- -i06:00
robertjDr_Willis: got it, the other doesn't work ;)06:00
luboI can try to use other router and get external IP to my comp... is that what you want me to try?06:00
NickGarveyheh that would be mean to make a bunch of files named --help all over someones system06:00
Dr_Willisrobertj,  it should.06:00
Dr_Willis:)06:01
robertjDr: it doesn't06:01
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robertjsee the latest post on p.gnome.org06:01
_jasonDr_Willis: nope, never worked for me either06:01
luboalso as you can see this chat is working no problem as well:-))06:01
NickGarveylubo: mm I need to sleep tonight06:01
NickGarveylubo: not sure whats not working.. someone else might be able to help06:01
jetscreamerlies06:01
NickGarveynight guys06:01
jetscreamersleep when you're dead06:01
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Dr_Willis_jason,  somthings odd then. I found a site that mentioned all the methods like that.06:01
michaelI have a question - if m4a is supposed to be a better format... why is it that ripping to m4a produces better quality after converting to mp3  -  not a question, just a rant06:01
lubothanks anyway06:01
jetscreamerwuss!06:01
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_jasonDr_Willis: is there a way to escape the -, the -- method is the only thing I know that works06:02
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luboanyone else with good knowledge who can help me fix this problem with internet connection? please06:02
CyorxampWill 2.6.13 kernel (or later) be available in the repo's for Breezy Badger?  if so any ideas on when?06:02
Dr_Willis_jason,  heh - i was thinking the quotes worked.. heck  touch '-foo' and "-foo" dont work either06:03
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_jasonDr_Willis: ha yeah06:03
_jasonDr_Willis: I suppose one way, would be with the inode06:03
Dr_Willistouch '"-foo"'06:03
Dr_Willis:P now i got a file with Quotes in the name! :P06:03
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symlinkwhere can i find the release schedule for ubuntu06:03
_jasonDr_Willis: rm ./-i works :)06:04
ushiroi have a proble with ubuntu. When I try to enter the graphic mode, there appear lines all over the screen. Any idea why this happen06:04
Dr_Willisthe -- method seems to be the most reliable06:04
arrickHelp, according to 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards' my wireless card is set to go out of the box on installed system, how do I turn it one?06:04
bimberisymlink: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule06:05
michaelso, whats a good prog to rip cds to mp306:05
Jamsimichael, theres one that comes with ubuntu06:05
brennerushiro: try reconfigging xorg06:05
JamsiStandard install, forget the name.06:05
symlinkbimberi, thank you06:05
brennerubotu: tell ushiro about xorg06:05
bimberisymlink: np :)06:05
ushirobenner, but which might be the problem?06:06
michaelJamsi, is it a CL proggy or w/ GUI06:06
arrickbrenner, good evening06:06
arrickhow are you tonight?06:06
ushirobrenner, but which might be the problem?06:06
brennerarrick: afternoon.  sorry to hear you gave up on the server06:06
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brennerushiro: guessing it's a display issue06:07
arrickI'm doing better, thats fine, I decided to run it on my laptop instead, and run the printer on xp06:07
CyorxampWill 2.6.13 kernel (or later) be available in the repo's for Breezy Badger?  if so any ideas on when?06:07
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ushirobrenner, how can I configure the xorg again06:07
crimsunCyorxamp: no, so no.06:07
arrickrunning ubuntu on something I can actually have go fast06:07
brennerushiro: check your msgs06:07
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Cyorxampcrimsun - what!?06:08
Cyorxamp'updates for up to 18 months' - and none of those updates is a newer kernel?06:08
crimsunCyorxamp: what what? It's a frozen distro. Only security updates and major no-brainer updates are applied. A newer kernel version fits neither category.06:09
bimberiCyorxamp: *security* updates06:09
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Cyorxamp:(06:09
CyorxampSo I gotta wait for dapper?06:09
liableno, you can compile any kernel you want..06:10
CyorxampBut I don't know how!06:10
CyorxampIf only there was a nice guide out there06:10
crimsunthere is called 'kernel-package'06:10
FunnyHatAnyone here setup grub to dual boot linux and OS X?06:10
crimsunbesides, you could always help test current Dapper06:10
liableif only there was a search engine out there..06:10
Cyorxampcrimsun - so your saying just go to the repo's?06:10
frank23Cyorxamp: if you actually a need of one of the new features, sure you can do it but I doubt that's the case06:10
bimberi!kernelcompile06:10
ubotuYou will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto06:10
Cyorxampfrank23 - I do need one of the new features06:11
Cyorxamp2.6.13 has something 2.6.12 does not06:11
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frank23Cyorxamp: what? maybe you can just grab the dapper kernel. not sure if it's as easy as that though06:12
GaturroI need help!!!06:12
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GaturroCan anybody help me?06:12
JamsiFunnyHat, OS X .. eek06:12
JamsiGaturro, whats up?06:12
Gaturrowell, I've this ubuntu copy06:12
Gaturrothat i'm trying to install06:13
Gaturrobut i'm having some problems06:13
Gaturro:(06:13
JamsiLike?06:13
Gaturrowell06:13
Gaturroi have an old computer06:13
Gaturrowhich doesn't support cd boot06:14
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Gaturroand i know i need to boot from floppy06:14
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frank23Gaturro: ouch that must be pretty damn old ;)06:14
JamsiGaturro, hmm. That mind be tricky06:14
signature16is ubuntu good for both desktop, game server and web server use?06:14
Jamsimight*06:14
Gaturrowith a SBM prog that is in the ubuntu cd06:14
Gaturroyeap., it's pretty old. pentium 60 mhz06:15
Gaturro:P06:15
Jamsisignature16, server use you may prefer to go with something like freebsd or debian.06:15
CyorxampOK... What is the dapper repo address I can add to synaptic to get the dapper kernel?06:15
brennerheh06:15
JamsiGaturro, I once installed debian on p90 laptop with 16meg of ram06:15
frank23Gaturro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation?highlight=%28installation%2906:15
JamsiUsing 14 floppy disks.06:15
Gaturrojo jooooooooo jo06:15
Gaturrorisky06:15
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Gaturroi used to install win 95 with 12 flops06:16
Gaturro:P06:16
signature16does ubuntu have support for XGL? and is it stable?06:16
Gaturroor were 14? anyway06:16
void^os/2warp had, what, 30+ floppies?06:16
_divan_hello everybody06:16
Dr_Willissignature16,  its a work in progresss.. and its not stable anywhere. :P06:16
Gaturrowell, i have an image of this sbm program06:16
Dr_Willissignature16,  dapper has support for it.. (sort of)06:16
brennerubotu: tell signature16 about xgl06:16
Gaturrobut i cannot use it. i don't have linux in any of mi pc0s06:17
frank23Cyorxamp: note that I don't actually know if this will work.   just change the sources.list lines  from breezy to dapper.   install the kernel (make sure you don't upgrade the whole system) and revert to the old sources.list06:17
Gaturroany idea?06:17
brennerGaturro: what's sbm?06:17
GaturroSmart Boot Program06:17
signature16is ubuntu based of debian?06:17
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Gaturrolet's boot from cd in old machines06:18
brennerah06:18
bimberisignature16: yes - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/06:18
Dr_Willissignature16,  you may want to  read their web site. :P06:18
Gaturrobrenner, brenner06:18
Gaturroingenieria?06:18
_divan_Does anybody know how to solve a problem with hotplug in Ubuntu 5.10?06:18
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frank23Gaturro: maybe this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies06:18
Gaturrojamsi06:18
Gaturrommm, don't know06:18
bbrownI am trying to figure this out:06:18
bbrownhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15144606:18
bbrownmy question, when I install 5.10, I specify a 386 kernel06:19
bbrownat the install prompt06:19
Gaturrodaniel brenner?06:19
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brennerGaturro: i've got no idea what you're on about06:20
michaelgood night all of you loving birdies (no pun intended)06:20
Gaturrook06:20
Gaturronevermind06:20
frank23bbrown: what kernel are you using in i386?06:20
frank23bbrown: what kernel are you using in ubuntu 5.04 sorry06:21
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bbrownfrank23: I dont know, whatever the default is.  that is my question, how can I specify at the 'boot:' prompt06:21
bbrownspecify what kernel06:22
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JamsiGaturro, can't help sorry06:22
frank23bbrown: I don't think you have a choice i386 is probably the only kernel on the install cd anyways06:22
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bbrownfrank23: shoot, I will try dapper and see if that works06:22
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Gaturrodoesn't matter06:23
frank23bbrown: that VIA processor is pretty rare. you'll probably won't find many people who have experience with it06:23
narghow would you recursivly chmod only directories? chmod 770 */ perhaps?06:23
frank23narg: not sure... check out  man chmod06:23
brennernarg: chmod -R  make sure you know what you're doing though06:24
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brennernarg: actually, that's wrong06:24
nargbrenner: yea, that does it all :p06:24
Cyorxampfrank23 - hey I installed the 2.6.15 one - but its not showing in the GRUB menu - do I need to add it ?06:24
brenneryeah, sorry misread you06:24
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frank23Cyorxamp: it doesn't show up in grub? it should....   if not you might need to add it yourself to /boot/grub/menu.lst06:25
tritiumCyorxamp: ubuntu linux-image packages are automatically setup in grub.06:25
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frank23Cyorxamp: what package did you install exactly?06:25
_jasonnarg: find . -type d -exec chmod <bleh> '{}' \;      should do it I think06:25
Cyorxamplinux-38606:25
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Cyorxampwell I 'upgraded'06:25
Cyorxampfrom 2.6.12 to 2.6.15 - but its not showing06:26
narg_jason: will that do it from . downwards, or the whole system?06:26
_jasonnarg: . downwards06:26
nargok, good06:26
_jasonnarg: you can replace . with what you wish or just cd to the directory06:26
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frank23Cyorxamp: you upgraded  linux-686  or something like that?06:27
Cyorxampumm... yeah06:27
Cyorxampit was already installed (i.e. green in synaptic) so I clicked it and clicked upgrade06:27
tritiumCyorxamp: put your /boot/grub/menu.lst on pastebin please06:27
narg_jason: thanks, it worked.06:27
_jasonnarg: np06:28
Cyorxampit got it, isntalled it, then I put my repo's back to breezy06:28
Cyorxampand restarted06:28
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jon_Hi I'm trying to compile rxvt-unicode 7.7 with 32 bit depth supporte.06:28
jon_support*06:28
jon_http://pastebin.com/62636806:28
jon_That is my problem. . . >_>06:28
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crimsunjon_: it'll help if you enable the deb/deb-src repo for universe, and apt-get build-dep rxvt-unicode06:29
arrickhey I finally fixed a problem on my own::))06:29
crimsunjon_: note that the perl dependency is a newer one as of v6.x06:29
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brennerarrick: awesome06:30
naztydoes anyone know how to change alternative irc's?06:31
michaelok this is importaint right now - my friend is usinf MSN Messenger and want's to video chat, how do i do that?? i'm using gaim right now06:31
jon_crimsun, Thanks.06:31
naztyi forget the command to change alternatives06:31
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Dr_Willismichael,  video chatting in gaim is  sort of a work in progress i hear.06:31
arrickbrenner, is the accounting program for ubuntu called acct?06:31
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michaelany good proggy for it? i tried amsn, but that sucks06:32
brennerarrick: never had the need to use one, sorry06:32
arrickok06:32
Dr_Willismichael,  i dont 'video' chat.. :P i text chat.. the way its MENT to be done.06:32
Dr_Willis;p;06:32
arrickanybody know what the name of the accounting package is for ubuntu?06:32
michaelk, thanks06:32
jon_Could anyone point me to a list of repositories for Dapper?06:32
Dr_Willisarrick,  go to freshmeat.net and search for accounting programs.06:32
bimberiarrick: gnucash is one06:32
arrickok06:33
liablewhat happened to bob2??06:33
arrickDr_Willis, bimberi, thanks06:33
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bimberiliable: /msg nickserv info bob2 -> Last Seen: 14 weeks 1 day (3h 53m 52s) ago06:35
Cyorxampfrank23 - ummm it's not in /boot06:36
Cyorxampvmlinux that is06:36
liablebimberi: i know he's gone a while :) wondered where he's gone :)06:36
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bimberiliable: me too06:37
frank23 CyorxampL I don't really know...06:38
jon_crimsun, If you use xcompmgr, rxvt-unicode has support for terminals with a transparent background yet fully opaque foreground.06:38
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liablevmlinux or vmlinuz?06:38
Cyorxampvmlinuz06:38
jon_crimsun, If you're interested . .06:38
crimsunjon_: yes, I follow upstream development.06:39
jon_crimsun, Damn, same problem.06:39
arrickhey all, I have quickbooks pro 2002, is it compatible with ubuntu?06:39
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arrickhow about photoshop 7.0?06:39
Cyorxamplol06:39
jon_arrick, Yes, use crossover office for those.06:39
arrickok thanks06:39
arrick!crossover06:40
ubotuarrick: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:40
liableor wine does photoshop//06:40
jon_arrick, It's better to use The GIMP though.06:40
arrickubuto: be nice06:40
arrickthats better than Photoshop 7.0?06:40
crimsunjon_: is libperl-dev installed?06:41
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arrickjon_, man I juts looked at gimp, its pretty powerful06:41
bimberion Linux it is :)06:41
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jon_Ah, no, but am installing it now.06:42
greenwomis NDISWRAPPER on the install CD????06:42
greenwomI forget06:42
jon_greenwom, If you want a _real_ wifi card, get a proxim 8470-wd06:42
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jon_crimsun, Thank you, that did it.06:45
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arrick!wireless06:45
ubotuwireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers06:45
knownbad!samba06:45
ubotusamba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently06:45
arrickgreenwom, this link under !wireless will guide you through getting ndiswrapper06:46
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SoapOSX'lo06:46
greenwomI know how to use it but I'm going to wipe my box, if ndiswrapper is on the install cd then I don't need to go to my neigbors and use the router to plug in :)06:47
arrickgreenwom, the Belkin F5D7010 is supported by default, automatically on too06:47
arrickwirelessG06:47
arrickoh ok06:47
SoapOSXcould someone help me with an issue? ubuntu 5.10 amd64 is locking up on me06:47
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greenwomYa I have three boxes running wireless, I share a connection with my tenant06:47
arrick!6406:47
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick06:47
arrick!amd6406:48
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick06:48
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arrickok, night all06:48
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SoapOSXthere are zero error messages when it's booting up, however...when i get to the login window and type my name and pass, it plays the welcome noise but just locks up to a brown screen (but the cursor is moveable)...if i try to change the session, it locks up when i select a different session.....any clues?06:49
liujiefjkl06:50
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SoapOSXalso i was told that it could be because i have an SATA hdd06:51
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crimsunponingru: well, there's nothing wrong per se with their using it. On the other hand, I wouldn't readily recommend it, although people certainly are free to break their own systems in their own interesting ways...06:55
poningruwell yes but we shouldnt be recomending it06:55
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poningruand I thought ubuntu forums was part of ubuntu06:55
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poningrusince the whole paying money/bandwidth thing06:56
crimsunfrankly people are free to recommend it, but I personally recommend an alternative06:56
youngneed help installing an rpm on ubuntu...anyone got time to help me?06:56
Kyral!alien06:56
ubotufrom memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/06:56
youngreally, hmmm...how about limewire?06:57
poningruyoung: sorry?06:57
Kyral!limewire06:57
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.06:57
poningru!java06:57
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:57
poningruetc.06:57
youngawesome. will do and thanks! the support on this is incredible...=)06:57
poningruoh I guess it says it already06:57
poningrubut try frostwire06:57
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Kyral!botsnack06:58
ubotuthanks kyral :)06:58
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CreatureOfLegendHello again.  I think I configured everything ok, but I'm still having trouble connecting to the net.  I'm trying wvdial and I'm getting a message that says there is no dialtone. But that is very much not true.  The phone that is connected to the same modem has a dialtone.  And I'm using the same line to be connected right now (via Windows laptop).07:00
punkmonkeyIs there a way to have ubuntu redetect the boot devices for menu.lst?07:00
punkmonkeyI've installed a new drive, and the sequencing of the devices seems to have changed. And I don't know how to address my serial ata drive.07:01
Kyralpunkmonkey: sudo update-grub07:01
dleAny opinions/experiences with dapper and ati cards?  The 9200 in particular?07:01
punkmonkeyHmm, that only updated the Linux kernels -- it's the Windows one I'm trying to get it to boot to.07:02
tritiumdle: please ask in #ubuntu+107:02
punkmonkeyKyral, any way of telling it to rescan for Windows stuff?07:02
Kyralwhy would you want to? j/k :P07:02
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dletritium: okay, thanks.07:03
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punkmonkeyKyral, balance of stability and pain, mostly.07:04
punkmonkeyMy serial ata drive used to be (hd1,0) -- that seems to have changed with a new IDE drive being added. Not sure why.07:04
CreatureOfLegendwhat should I do if I get an error w/ wvdial that says there is no dialtone when there indeed is a dialtone?  Where might the problem lie?07:04
punkmonkeyCreatureOfLegend, you probably have it hooked up to the wrong serial device or the modem isn't configured.07:05
liablepunkmonkey: your sata drive was hd1?07:05
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punkmonkeyliable, that's how it's configured in grub, and it used to work.07:06
CreatureOfLegendpunkmonkey: I went through the steps to configure, it though.  And the wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf says it can detect it.07:06
CreatureOfLegendWhat do you mean to the wrong serial device?  Like hardware-wise in the mother board?07:06
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punkmonkeyCreatureOfLegend, Could you have more than one modem/modem-like device installed?07:06
CreatureOfLegendpunkmonkey: Nope only one07:07
punkmonkeyCreatureOfLegend, hm, not sure, it's been a while since I used wvdialconf07:07
CreatureOfLegendOk. Thank you anyway :)07:07
punkmonkeyanyone... list of hdX,Y devices?07:07
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imc1hey I'm installing vmware and it wants to know if I want to use host-only networking in my VMs. What';s that?07:08
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liablepunkmonkey: /boot/grub/device.map07:09
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AngryElfhey all, anyone know of a program that rotates background images?07:11
punkmonkeyliable, it looks like it's ok then.07:11
BlueHeronimc1: no you don't07:11
punkmonkeyliable, sda is hd1, and hd1 is what I'm configured to boot from.07:11
BlueHeronimc1: it means the VM can only access the host computer, not the net07:11
liablepunkmonkey: and it wont boot?07:12
punkmonkeyit will not.07:12
jon_crimsun, If you're still there, when I start urxvt with 32 bit depth, xcompmgr doesn't draw shadows for it. Is there a way I can have it do that . .07:12
liablepunkmonkey: is the sata drive on a card controller and the ata onboard?07:12
punkmonkeyI think it whined about the filesystem... I can try and check again.07:12
punkmonkeyMaybe it is getting to the Windows MBR and that's gone?07:12
punkmonkeyThe serial ata and the ide/ata are both onboard.07:13
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Eleafhi07:13
CreatureOfLegendHi, Eleaf07:14
punkmonkeyliable, I'm going to try a quick reboot and try stuff. Thanks for your help. Might brb.07:14
Eleafhmm hi07:14
Eleaflol07:14
liablepunkmonkey: gl07:14
CreatureOfLegendEleaf: You said hi, I said hi back. :p07:14
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CreatureOfLegenddoes anyone else know why wvdial gives me a nodialtone message when there is a dialtone?07:15
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Eleafyes CreatureOfLegend hi.07:15
dygtahello07:16
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CreatureOfLegendEleaf: Hello ^_^ (this is fun!)07:16
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Eleaflol07:17
Eleaf;>07:17
CreatureOfLegendBienvenidos! (sp?)07:17
xsquaredhi, i am just thinking about upgrading to dapper07:17
budluvaanyone know how to slow down ET???????07:17
xsquaredby upgrading to dapper, what should i expect?07:17
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wastrelubuntu07:17
crimsunjon_: I don't know offhand (haven't used urxvt in a long time)07:18
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wastrelrxvt eh07:18
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meccahi07:18
_jasonbudluva: take away his skittles?  what do you mean by ET?07:18
budluvaenemy territory07:18
budluvaseems waaayyyyy too fast07:19
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budluvadunno how to show fps07:19
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budluvabut i have details on high, everything as high as it will go and seems like the game is on speed07:19
xsquaredbudluva, dude07:19
xsquaredyou have to disable powernowd07:19
liablethats good isnt it?07:19
xsquaredbudluva, sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop07:20
budluvawhat is powernowd?07:20
xsquaredthen restart ET07:20
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budluva!powernowd07:20
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, budluva07:20
frank23xsquared: how does powernowd affect ET?07:20
xsquaredit just does07:20
xsquaredand counterstrike07:20
liablethe .. um .. daemon, to give .. err .. p0w4h .. n0w?07:21
wastrel!info powernowd07:21
ubotupowernowd: (control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.96-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 108 kB07:21
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xsquaredliable, do you run dapper?07:21
budluvahaha first time i've ever had to slow down newer games :P07:21
liablexsquared: unfortunately, no.07:21
xsquaredwhat do you run?07:22
liablexsquared: sid :)07:22
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frank23budluva: disabling powernowd will make your cpu run at full speed all the time, not slow it dows07:22
xsquaredis there alot of dependancy problems in debian sid?07:22
budluvais dapper stable now? last time i checked it wasn't for everyday desktop use07:22
frank23budluva: dapper will be released on June 1st07:22
budluvawhoa07:22
xsquaredtoo far away07:23
budluvai've been in the bush too long07:23
liablexsquared: atm its not to bad. but i dont really have a lot of shit installed.07:23
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budluvaany gui changes to dapper?07:23
xsquaredim just pissed off about some things in ubuntu07:23
budluvafrank23, bcm43xx work in dapper out of the box?07:23
tritiumxsquared: take it easy07:23
xsquaredi.e. the kernel is compiled with a different version of gcc than what is provided in the repos07:23
budluvaonly thing i cant get working on my new lappy is broadcom wireless07:23
frank23budluva: I have no Idea.07:24
liablexsquared: it is unstable after all..07:24
xsquaredubuntu breezy?07:24
frank23xsquared: that's because it was (still is?) impossible to compile the kernel with gcc-407:24
liablexsquared: no, dapper07:25
void^hm, i've compiled my linux kernels with gcc4 for some time now07:25
xsquaredi see frank2307:25
arrickhey, If I have a printer installed on a networked windows xp machine, that is not supported by ubuntu, and am working on a networked ubuntu machine, is there a way for me to print over the network?07:25
xsquaredits just a pain sometimes07:25
frank23void^: was it possible when breezy was released?07:25
bimberi!xpprint07:25
ubotuPrinting from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP07:25
xsquaredalso, where can i get a backport for lighttpd?07:26
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xsquaredi can't find that package for breexy anywhere07:26
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void^frank23: no idea. was it released last.. autumn?07:26
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josephhello07:27
tritium!info lighttpd07:27
hondadarrellIs there a way to fix Synaptic or Update-manager? Update-manager froze during an update. Now all synaptic says is "Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root: Wrong password.". I tried using the terminal with sudo apt-get update, but I get "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.". Is there a way I can get to a shell and update or is there a way around the error I get07:27
hondadarrell in the terminal? Thanks07:27
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frank23void^: october 2005 I think. but the choice of kernel compiler would have been made before that07:27
tritium!info lighttpd dapper07:27
ubotulighttpd: (A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.4.11-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 272 kB, Installed size: 816 kB07:27
josephI need help.  I accidently formatted the wrong hard drive with all my files on it.  Is there any way that I can recover it?07:27
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xsquaredtrying to install the dapper package results with errors07:27
xsquaredThe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:27
xsquared  lighttpd: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8a-1) but it is not installable07:27
xsquared            Depends: lsb-base (>= 3.0-3) but 3.0-1ubuntu8 is to be installed07:27
arrickbimberi, this thing is asking for a driver, and the printer is not supported, any way around this?07:28
tritiumxsquared: don't paste it here please07:28
void^frank23: but why did they make gcc4 the default compiler?07:28
xsquareddude, its 3 lines07:28
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xsquaredi wouldn't paste any more than 3 lines07:28
tritiumxsquared: dude, please don't07:28
bimberiarrick: possibly not, try a model number that looks close07:28
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xsquaredheh07:28
frank23void^: not sure why exactly... they could compile everything else with it. I know ubuntu cleared alot of the way for the gcc4 transition for debian07:29
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arrickthere are none, not even the z600le that is supposed to be the same07:29
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arrickbimberi, how do I crossover a windows driver for the printer?07:29
josephCan anyone hear me?07:30
tritiumjoseph: no, but I can see your words07:30
dj-fuI can read what you are typing07:30
dj-fu:)07:30
josephI need help.  I accidently formatted the wrong hard drive with all my files on it.  Is there any way that I can recover it?07:30
arrickfile recovery.com07:30
frank23joseph: the only way I know how is with recovery programs. GetDataBack for windows is the only one I know07:30
void^frank23: i see.. sometimes it's good to force new things :)07:30
bimberiarrick: idk and i doubt it's possible07:30
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josephfrank23: do they work with ext3?07:30
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hondadarrellwhat can I do about the error, "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."07:31
odatanyone know why a 512 memory chip is coming up as 516?07:31
frank23joseph: no. what was the filesystem you accidentally formated? ext3?07:31
josephyes ext307:31
arrickbimberi, yeah me too, maybe I'll download the lexmark developers tool and take a stab then, thanks07:31
hondadarrell*I'm running sudo apt-get update.07:31
tty5need help on floppy mounting07:31
bimberiarrick: kk :)07:31
frank23joseph: oh. maybe there are linux recovery tools for that07:31
bimberitty5: what's the problem?07:32
josephfrank23: maybe?07:32
ca38aspearjoseph do not write any new data on the hard drive with the new recovery program07:32
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frank23joseph: I don't know. I never tried to recover files like that07:32
tty5root@matrix:/media# pmount /media/floppy07:32
tty5mount: you must specify the filesystem type07:32
wastrelodat:  it's normal.07:32
tty5whats the win fstype? ntfs/fat right07:33
philcsomeone asked me this weird question -- is a 256-bit video card more likely to be CISC or RISC, and why?07:33
bbrownwhat is the simplest way to enable my writer to work, it says I need scsi loaded in the kernel07:33
bbrownthis is with breezy07:33
bimberitty5: try 'pmount -t msdos /media/floppy'07:33
tty5ya07:33
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odatwastrel, ok i think i just maxed out this old compaq deskpro en   i wanted to put the 512 and 256 but it says its too much memory and i thought that may have something to do with it07:33
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tty5bimberi,same output07:34
bimberitty5: hm, try another disk?07:34
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arrick1>07:35
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tty5u mean another floppy? i need to save some data from this floppy :(07:35
arrick!printers07:35
ubotumethinks printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org07:35
imc1No sound in a new breezy install - little help please? Xorg running and I get system beeps but not sound07:35
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imc1Sound worked under DAPPER of all things, but not under this breezy install07:36
frank23arrick what lexmark printer do you have?  I don't think you can use windows drivers in any way07:36
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bimberitty5: just trying to see what the issue is.  Have you tried mounting it via nautilus? - Places -> Computer, right-click on Floppy, Mount Volume07:36
tty5im not using xwin07:37
tty5nvm07:37
bimberitty5: ah :|07:37
tty5mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy is the solution07:37
tty5thanks bimberi07:37
wastrelimc1:  you've unmuted your channels in alsamixer? (have to ask)07:37
tty5;)07:37
imc1Yes! ;)07:38
bimberitty5: ha, you've tought me :)07:38
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imc1IT's a Realtec ALC 883 chipset07:38
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kujaSpring cleaning, eh07:38
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tty5bimberi,i think by dfault breezy configures the floppy diskette drive /dev/fd007:39
wastrelimc1:  your card is listed in lspci?  you have a /dev/dsp?  you're in the audio group?  your sound modules are loaded?  all that happy jazz...07:39
imc1wastrel, thanks, neede that nudge...one sec07:39
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imc1lspci no!07:40
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imc1So I guess it's not gettin loaded . . .07:40
budluvaanyone here using ati 8.16.20 drivers and stuck in 1024x768???07:41
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bimberitty5: yes, looks like it07:41
imc1wastrel, no lspci, yes user in audio group, yes /dev/dsp soundcore is loaded07:42
dj-fuAnyone know of a program like FRAPS for linux? to capture video of my desk?07:42
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budluvaseems these drivers wont let me go past 1024x768 even after manually editing xorg.conf, i could go higher when using "ati" drivers in xorg.conf but stuck in 1024x768 after switching to "fglrx" driver07:42
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imcwastrel?07:44
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wastrelyup, just a mo07:44
imc:)07:44
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wastrelimc so if your card isn't being recognized, is the correct driver being loaded?07:45
imcI don't think so wastrel.07:46
imc lsmod | grep sound shows soundcore as being loaded07:46
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imcI know the sound card on the machine works because it worked under dapper07:47
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crimsunimc: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat07:47
IamEthosanyone know of an OS X style dock for Linux?07:48
imcHi, crimsun. Wow, cool: 0: Realtek ID 88307:48
crimsunimc: that doesn't work under breezy.07:48
imcAh.07:48
imcIamEthos gxdocker or something like thatr07:48
crimsunimc: follow the directions being sent to you.07:48
imcTHANK YOU crimsum!07:49
ca38aspearxfce is the closes thing i have seen to osx 'apt-get install xfce4'07:49
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wastrelheh google loses i guess :]   gl imc07:49
crimsunimc: if you encounter an error, please run ``sudo apt-get -f install''. When you reach the dpkg-reconfigure stage, answer "yes" to PnP and debug.07:49
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weasel__hey guys07:49
dj-fuIs there something like fraps for linux?07:50
wastrelwhat's fraps?07:50
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imcokay, crimsun, thanks again, much appreciated07:50
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weasel__If I have a stupid tech question, would this be the place to ask ?07:50
ca38aspearyes07:50
_jasonweasel__: just try asking it :)07:50
weasel__heh, allright :)07:51
dj-fuFraps is a desktop video capture program07:51
dj-fuso I could capture a video of me chatting here, or whatever.07:51
IamEthosimc: nothing on google for that07:51
IamEthosis there a way to hide all of the icons on a workspace07:52
weasel__My second CD drive (the burner) is "not there". When I try doubleclicking on the icon, it refuses and gives me "mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist"07:52
IamEthos(I want to have one workspace with icons07:52
IamEthosone with stickys07:52
IamEthosand the other two for applications07:52
weasel__the first CD drive works just fine, and this worked untill recently.07:52
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AngryElfokay, this is totally killing me, I thought this was maybe related to the fact that my server was FC4 and my client was breezy, but it's not.........whenever I mount a NFS share, it takes 1-2 minutes....no error messages, it works fine in the end, file transfers are fine etc.......but the mount command takes forever.........what gives?07:52
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adminsdfads?07:52
Psykwhat is the name of the package for developer man pages?07:52
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ca38aspearweasel_ are you a super user when you do this07:53
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weasel__this is just through the GUI, for trying to access things on a CD07:53
wastrelPsyk:  manpages-dev07:53
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Psykthank you07:54
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wastrelIamEthos:  i don't think that's possible with gnome.  could be wrong tho07:54
imc1IamEthos http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php07:55
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imc1It's a K app but works under gnome, cool, like the mac docker, mouse over and it gets big.07:55
IamEthosimcl: I saw this one earlier07:56
IamEthosbut I couldn't remember what I googled for07:56
IamEthosand couldn't find it again07:56
imc1It works - I run it07:56
imc1Watch the movie07:56
IamEthosimcl: is it in a repos? how do I install it on Ubuntu?07:57
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wastrelIamEthos:  apt-cache search docker07:58
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imccrimsun, it seemed to install without errors; last I was it was "loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc."07:59
imcUh, but now how can I access the menu? ALT+F@ and ALSA only shows me the deb pkg07:59
weasel__when I check /etc/fstab, everything looks the same for the 2 drives. But one doesnt work, when you actually insert a CD, for some reason08:00
crimsunimc: ok, good. cat /proc/asound/version08:00
VonGuardhey08:00
VonGuardanyone used gnome-art?08:00
VonGuardis it downloading everything? geez, seems like overkill08:00
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imcIamEthos, you need to download and build it - piece of cake08:00
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imccrimsun - w00t: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.08:00
imcCompiled on Mar 28 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-10-386.08:00
imcIamEthos, on the downloads page are all the linkis to the packages08:02
imcYou;ll need the base KDE libs I think as well08:02
wastrelanyone got a good mp3 player that works well with lunix (not ipod) ?08:02
VonGuardrios08:02
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VonGuardnot very large though08:03
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void^any mp3 player that works as usb storage08:03
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johanbrwastrel: I'm pretty happy with my Creative Muvo^2.08:03
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imccrimsun, should I go get gnome-alsamixer?08:03
weasel__doesn't amaroK give ipod support ?08:03
crimsunimc: pastebin the output from ``amixer -c0''08:03
imcokay08:03
kevmanI'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Athlon 850. Whenever it gets to "partition disks" it pops up with a dialog box with nothing but "???? ????" and "go back" and "contunie"08:04
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pulgokiare any of the alternatives to windows emmulators any better than wine?08:04
kevmanAnyone know what THAT could be?08:04
imccrimsun, thanks, I'm grateful: http://pastebin.com/62643308:05
kevmanpulgoki, cedega, maybe.08:05
kevmanBut its payware.08:05
pulgokiyea08:05
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pulgokiive been reading into that08:05
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pulgokii'd be glad to pay if it works well08:05
weasel__cedega works pretty well, though I havent run a lot of stuff off it08:05
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pulgokiweasel__: you know much about the demo?08:05
pulgokiis it limited other than time?08:06
weasel__As far as I know, its just that you cant get updates past its expiry08:06
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weasel__Im not sure though. I just paid for the regular one. Its kinda cheap08:06
crimsunimc: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' produce audible sound?08:06
pulgokihrm08:06
pulgokithat sounds strange08:06
kevmanHmm.... Maybe the partition table was just corrupted.08:07
pulgokiweasel__:  how many apps have you tried in it?? just a few?? sorry for so many questions08:07
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imccrimsun: yes it does!!!!08:07
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imcCheers. Shouts of joy.08:08
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crimsunimc: excellent.08:08
imcYes indded! Thanks!!! So now how can I get that mixer happening?08:09
weasel__pulgoki: the only things I have tried with it are Halflife, hearts of iron, soldier of fortune (didnt work) and delta force land warrior (didnt work). Not much else, sorry08:09
crimsunimc: you just need to adjust PCM using the Volume Control08:09
kevmanCan somone tell me what this "LVM" selection is on the partitioner?08:09
kRaKoNHi where is  Synaptic ?08:09
imcRight, except there is no visible volume control anywhere08:09
crimsunimc: not in the system tray area?08:10
crimsun(upper right corner)08:10
kevmanOr ignore me.08:10
kRaKoNI wanto to install wine according to http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb but i cannot find the option "repositories"08:10
imcIt was there but disappeared when ALSA installed. But wit, I can try adding it to the panel08:10
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crimsunkevman: take a look on the wiki08:11
imcYES!08:11
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imcThanks VERY much crimsun. This is the second time you've walked me through something and I am most grateful.08:11
crimsunright, part of the upgrade process killed all apps accessing the old drivers prior to unloading them.08:11
kRaKoNoh i got ir08:11
kRaKoNthank you08:11
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kevmanI figured it out, crimsun. Its a matter of principle :P08:11
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imchave a great night, crimsun!08:12
kevman#Gentoo is BAD for ignoring me :( Though sometimes they'll help you out.08:12
crimsunkevman: people don't intentionally ignore you. Some of us just can't answer every question as it's asked.08:12
crimsunimc: you, too08:12
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kevmanAck, cold spot on this food.08:12
BunnyBoyHello everyone! I need support!08:12
weasel__kevman: Nuke till done :)08:13
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anstei!tell BunnyBoy about anyone08:13
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tritiumBunnyBoy: go ahead and state the problem08:13
kevmanNew to IRC, hm?08:13
weasel__this is the first time I've been on IRC so.. yeah.. kinda...08:14
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BunnyBoyyes I'm very new08:14
Klownerirc, where the men are boys and the women are men08:14
weasel__and the mice have guns ?08:14
Klowneryes08:14
KlownerI thought you said you were new to irc08:15
Klowner:)08:15
ansteiand the boys are fbi agents :P08:15
weasel__I saw one of them on hte way in..08:15
ansteianyways, back to topic.08:15
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IamEthosI'm using kxdocker08:16
spencerkis there a safe way to reformat windows without loosing grub?08:17
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ansteispencerk: you can recover grub after reinstalling windows08:18
anstei!tell spencerk about grub08:18
spencerkboot disk?08:18
weasel__did anyone have an idea on my "mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist08:18
weasel__" problem ?08:18
ansteithe second link should do it08:18
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spencerkanstei, do i apt-get a boot-disk app or something08:19
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spencerkahh thanks08:20
ansteispencerk: as long as you haven't installed grub on the partition you want to format you should be safe to install windows08:20
Blue-Steelhow come when  i type my root passwd when asked by adept gui  it fails  to accept it but it works if  i do it in the console08:20
spencerkanstei, that !tell script is so cool08:21
spencerkthank you08:21
anstei08:21
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IamEthosi'm using kxdocker and everytime I mouse over it, a black bar appears at the bottom of the screen08:22
nemwhat program can i used for put my screen on TV08:22
ansteiweasel__: you can't mount a hard disk itself. you have to mount a partition of a drive08:22
nemi have nvidia08:22
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weasel__Hm, this comes up when I try to access my second CD rom drive.08:23
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ansteiweasel__: maybe it has another name. on my computers they are always something like /dev/cdrom. you could do an "ls /dev | grep cd" to find out whether there is something named like that08:25
weasel__anstei: that gave me cdrom, ptycd and ttycd08:26
ansteiweasel__: so try to mount /dev/cdrom08:26
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NytWolfWow... theres a few Ubuntu users here.08:28
weasel__anstei: it displayed No medium found, if there's no CD in there. With a CD, it gives /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy08:28
NytWolfJust a few.08:28
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weasel__thats for the cdrom thats working, though.08:29
NytWolfCould someone offer advice on recommended partitions to use with Ubuntu (rather than just have a swap and an everything-else partition?)08:29
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chalcedony~$ makedir myname08:30
chalcedonybash: makedir: command not found08:30
chalcedony~$08:30
chalcedonywhat do i do ?08:30
NytWolfmkdir08:31
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chalcedonyahh08:31
chalcedonyno a08:31
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chalcedonytired..08:31
NytWolf=308:31
chalcedony~$ mkedir court08:31
chalcedonybash: mkedir: command not found08:31
chalcedony~$08:31
NytWolfNo e either =P08:31
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chalcedony~$ mkdir court08:31
chalcedonymkdir: cannot create directory `court': File exists08:31
chalcedony~$08:31
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NytWolfThats obvious08:32
chalcedonygrin08:32
chalcedonyok..08:32
wastrelyay08:32
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NytWolfAnd, if anyone is listening about my parition question... I have a recommended strategy for it, but I'm afraid I don't know the sizes I should give each parition, aside from the /boot and swap partitions08:33
Karmanderhello everybody08:33
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wastrelNytWolf:  how much free space on your drive?08:33
volcom_b0ican anyone point me to the file that winecfg edits?  I want to edit the file manually08:33
Karmanderi love my ubuntu :)08:33
Fujitsuvolcom_b0i, it's the registry files. Recommended to use winecfg!08:33
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chalcedonyKarmander: don't we all?08:33
Karmandercan you help me to make my gnome more functional?08:33
NytWolfWastrel: I've got two drives, a 10 gig, and a 160 gig... this is the strategy I was going to use: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO-31.html08:33
Karmanderchalcedony you're right08:34
NytWolfThe first of two on the page08:34
volcom_b0iwinecfg crashes when I trye to edit the audio tab08:34
Karmanderi need help to make my ubuntu run faster (like a ferrari)08:34
volcom_b0iI just want to edit the sound hardware acceleration to emulation.08:34
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wastrelNytWolf:  seems complicated.  i'd put / on the 10gig and /home on the 160, give yourself some swap if you need/want it from the 10gig.08:35
Karmandercan you help me?08:35
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andrinacan somone tell me what this means please08:35
volcom_b0ioh... I see, not like the old wine configs at all....08:36
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FujitsuNo, changed in mid-2005, volcom_b0i.08:36
NytWolfWastrel: My question is, using the configuration listed on that page, what sizes should I make each partition08:36
andrinahp5400_scanner.c: In function hp5400_bulk_read:08:36
andrinahp5400_scanner.c:245: warning: initializer element is not computable at load time08:36
andrina/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lusb08:36
andrinacollect2: ld returned 1 exit status08:36
andrinamake: *** [hp5400]  Error 108:36
volcom_b0ibummer, my fault for running dapper :)  I can wait I suppose for it to be fixed.08:36
Karmanderok thank you08:36
FujitsuInstall libusb-dev, andrina.08:36
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wastrelNytWolf:  you're actually going to split your drives into 11 different partitions?08:37
wastrelNytWolf:  is this a server setup?08:37
NytWolfWastrel: Yep08:37
andrinathanks08:37
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volcom_b0iDoes this look familiar to anyone? Fix? open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory08:38
NytWolfWastrel: I'm not working with much of a system and I've read several sources that say this is a good idea. I figured since I don't have much of a machine, I could at least make the drives as efficient as possible08:38
joevandykWho do I talk to to get support in Dapper for the ipw3495 wireless NIC?08:39
thoreauputic_volcom_b0i: sudo modprobe snd_seq  if I remember correctly will fix that08:39
NytWolfThen again, a crappy system for Windows XP is an awesome system for linux :x08:39
joevandyk(I'm willing to help package / test it)08:39
volcom_b0iok, so if that works, should I add it to my modprobe on boot?08:39
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thoreauputic_volcom_b0i: add it to /etc/modules08:39
weasel__if the first cdrom is hdc, what should the second one generally be ?08:40
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kevmanDamn thing crashed.08:40
weasel__is there any general logic to how that works or ?08:40
NytWolfWastrel: I'm not desperate at the moment, so I could wait until its not 12:40 at night and ask when more people are available08:40
NytWolfIf you can't help me, that is.08:40
thoreauputic_volcom_b0i: if you are trying to use midi, there's a howto on the wiki08:40
thoreauputic_!midi08:40
ubotufrom memory, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo08:40
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volcom_b0ino, I am trying to edit my audio properties in winecfg and it throws that at me when I click the tab.08:41
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wastrelNytWolf:  you don't need swap on both drives, and you don't need a news partition.  ubuntu doesn't use a separate boot partition normally either.08:41
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thoreauputic_volcom_b0i: ah, can't help with wine I'm afraid - maybe someone familiar with it can...08:41
wastrelNytWolf:  swap is typically 2x RAM nowadays, up to a total of 1gb swap.08:41
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Fujitsuweasel__, hda is the Primary Master, hdb is Primary Slave, hdc is Secondary Master, and hdd is Secondary Slave.08:42
volcom_b0iyeah, not a big deal, just trying to get it working because it won't :)08:42
NytWolfWastrel: Yah, I wasn't sure what the heck the news partition was o.o08:42
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wastrelNytWolf:  for /root you need a minimum of about 4 gb, 8-10 to be more comfortable08:42
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wastreler  for /   not /root08:43
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weasel__Fujitsu, Thanks. so for a second cdrom, hdd would be correct ?08:43
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FujitsuIf it is the slave on the secondary IDE channel, yes.08:43
weasel__It is. Allright, so far so good08:44
andrinaHi, Im conpiling something and getting errors. problewm is there off screen in gterm so i can read them they go past as far upwards as i can scroll how would i fix this...ive seen a buffer option before but i cant find it nbow08:44
andrinacant read them*08:44
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wastrelthough splitting out /usr /var and /lib will shrink /  .. i dunno honestly it seems baroque and unnecessary - for a desktop system.  :] 08:44
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wastreli'm going to bed :] 08:44
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weasel__Everytime I try to mount anything, or just insert a cd in that drive, absolutely nothing happens.08:45
NytWolfG'night, thanks =308:45
sfarisgaaaaasp08:45
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sfaris:(08:45
sfarismornin08:45
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shankygood morning, is ther a specific channel for ubuntu-server ?08:46
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andrinaHi, Im conpiling something and getting errors. problewm is there off screen in gterm so i can read them they go past as far upwards as i can scroll how would i fix this...ive seen a buffer option before but i cant find it nbow08:46
MoeTiefmoin08:46
AngryElfhmmmm, so under Services > Admin > Networking, I changed the Hostname of the computer, and it wanred me I wouldn't be able to open apps till after logging back in......but i've done that, and now i can't get root access.....why why why? :(08:46
andrinaxterm is the same everythings off screen08:46
MoeTiefsome people fron germany here08:46
thoreauputic_!de08:47
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de08:47
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tonyyarussoWhat's the kde trash location?08:47
n4chtandrina,  gterm->edit->current profile->scrolling tab.   set the scrollback higher.  also, make sure you've got the build-essential package installed.  (apt-get install build-essential)08:48
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volcom_b0isweet got it to work.  I had to MALLOC_CHECK_=0 to get it work work... Bug somewhere ...08:49
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joevandykHi, Who do I talk to get to ipw3945 wireless support in Dapper?08:52
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andrinathanks08:52
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crimsunjoevandyk: it's a WIP08:53
ricardo_how can i get a faster gnome startup?08:53
ricardo_help me to disable unusefull applications08:53
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sethkricardo_, look around in $HOME/.gnome2, but it is not easy to do08:55
ricardo_sethk which parameters should i change08:56
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ricardo_sethk i'm not an expert08:56
ricardo_i'll appreciate if you give some steps to follow08:57
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ricardo_can you help me please09:00
GNU_Stylei just installed ubuntu flight, cant boot to my xp now09:00
andrinahi what package is sanei included in? im having compile problems cant find that file09:00
andrinawelll its sane.o or something09:01
sethkricardo_, I'll see if I can find a starting point for you...09:01
andrinawelll its sanei.o or something09:01
andrina!sanei09:01
ubotuandrina: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:01
sethkandrina, a .o file is a build product, created from some sort of source, typically a .c09:01
sethkandrina, so you can have a link problem because of a missing .o, but not a compile problem09:01
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andrinai just found out sanei is internal routines whats that?09:02
NytWolfricardo_: Have you attempted to search places like Google?09:02
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_wingedesanei is related to scanners aint it??09:03
andrinaanyone know a driver or know how to get the Hp Scanjet 4500c scanner woring in ubuntu?09:03
andrinayes09:03
NytWolfricardo_: You'd be surprised how much information is already documented.09:03
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unamericanhi09:05
unamericananybudy around? or on?09:05
unamericanrather not idle?09:05
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MistaEDandrina: sane says unsupported :( http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/hp-scanjet-4500c.html09:06
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kleinlappieshi there09:07
ricardo_NytWolf thank you i'm looking for but there is a lot and it makes it confussing09:07
kleinlappiesim at work now so let the fun begin09:07
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ricardo_NytWolf also there is too much information for advanced users09:07
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ricardo_i have a amd k6-500 and i'm installing the linux-image-k7 and modules, can it make it work better? is it ok?09:09
MistaEDricardo: something tells me a k7 kernel will be incompatible with a k609:10
nick|heresome lines appering at the middle of window suddenly? then disappears09:10
MistaEDpossibly a 686 kernel might be better09:10
ricardo_it will be incompatible?09:12
ricardo_it won't work09:12
ricardo_are you sure09:12
void^you're free to try09:12
sfarisi dont think its different kernels for K6 and K7 just for fun09:12
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sfaristhere must be some reason :)09:13
sethksfaris, sometimes one kernel will perform better than another, but both will work09:13
void^learning by doing, experience is the best teacher, and so on.09:13
sethksfaris, I'm not sure whether the k6/k7 is like that, but it could be09:13
sfarismight be worth a try09:13
ricardo_yes but i would like to keep my ubuntu working09:13
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thoreauputic_afaik k6 is equivalent to i586 so I don't think a k7 kernel will work09:14
thoreauputic_I may be wrong however...09:14
ricardo_actually i have a 386 kernel09:14
thoreauputic_ricardo_: it really won't make much difference09:14
ricardo_but i couldn't find a k6 kernel, why?09:14
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sethkricardo_, you can easily build one09:15
ricardo_how?09:15
ricardo_in case it doesn't work what should i do?09:15
thoreauputic_ricardo_: your original kernel will still be there09:16
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MistaEDi'd just go with 686, a k6 i think was comparable to a pentium 2 and that's 68609:16
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sfarisi use grub, so i can choose kernel at startup09:16
ricardo_sfaris i also have grub09:16
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ricardo_so it will appear at the startup?09:17
sfarisdoes for me09:17
thoreauputic_ricardo_: frankly changing from the i386 kernel is unlikely to make a big difference09:17
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void^yes, it's just not worth it09:18
ricardo_thoreauputic_ so it doesn't matter too much09:18
thoreauputic_ricardo_: exactly09:18
ricardo_makes me feel better09:18
thoreauputic_ricardo_: I wouldn't bother personally09:18
ricardo_thoreauputic_ so where should i start to make my so more functional?09:19
void^use a leighter desktop environment, xfce oder fluxbox even.09:19
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void^-e09:19
ricardo_void how can i get it09:19
ricardo_can it coexist with gnome?09:20
ricardo_can i have at the same time gnome and flux?09:20
thoreauputic_ricardo_: for xfce , install xubuntu-desktop or xfce409:20
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andrinahi what package would these files be in09:20
andrinagcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/.libs/sane_strstatus.o: No  such file or directory09:20
andrinagcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/../sanei/.libs/sanei_init_ debug.o: No such file or directory09:20
andrinagcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/../sanei/.libs/sanei_confi g.o: No such file or directory09:20
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andrinagcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/../sanei/.libs/sanei_usb.o : No such file or directory09:20
thoreauputic_ricardo_: sure - you choose the session you want at login09:20
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ricardo_thoreauputic_ does xfce4 request too much resources?09:21
mdkecan i run sshd and apache on the same port? are they clever enough to figure out which incoming requests are which?09:21
void^no.09:21
aeolistmdke no09:22
thoreauputic_ricardo_: no, it is quite snappy - I had it running on a pentium 200 mmx with 64 MB RAm09:22
ricardo_woaw09:22
ricardo_amazing so how can i try it09:22
thoreauputic_ricardo_: either install xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop09:23
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thoreauputic_ricardo_: I would recommend xubuntu-desktop09:23
ricardo_why?09:23
ricardo_isn't it a kde desktop?09:23
thoreauputic_ricardo_: it comes with some nice light apps like abiword and rox filer09:23
ricardo_no sorry kubuntu09:23
mdkeaeolist, every service has to be on a different port?09:24
ricardo_thoreauputic_ how can i get xubuntu-desktop09:24
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aeolistit's best mdke09:24
thoreauputic_ricardo_: just   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop09:24
thoreauputic_assuming you have universe enabled09:24
thoreauputic_!info xubuntu-desktop09:25
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB09:25
ricardo_how many hd space needs?09:25
mdkeaeolist, do you mean it won't work if I run two services on the same port, or that it's a good idea not to?09:25
ricardo_woaw09:25
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ricardo_32kb!!!09:25
thoreauputic_ricardo_: that's only the metapackage09:25
void^mdke: it's not possible.09:25
mdkevoid^, damn09:25
thoreauputic_ricardo_: apt will tell you how much space it needs09:25
aeolistmdke, if you dont use different ports, how will the software be able to discern between the tcp/ip packages?09:25
ricardo_113MB!09:26
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ricardo_i don't have anought space09:26
mdkeaeolist, I wondered if it was clever and could do it09:26
aeolistricardo_, sit back and relax09:26
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thoreauputic_ricardo_: how much space do you have?09:26
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aeolistmdke, nah... the whole purpose of ports is that they are to be used by single services09:26
aeolisti guess09:26
ricardo_thoreauputic_ wait i'm looking09:27
thoreauputic_ricardo_: if you have less than 100MB you won't be able to do much anyway...09:27
void^mdke: it doesn't work like that by design. no matter how clever you are, you cannot walk through the wall, you have to take the door.09:27
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mdkevoid^, right, thanks09:27
aeolistvoid^, actually there is a slight chance to walk through the wall09:27
thoreauputic_ricardo_: df -h will tell you09:27
void^aeolist: not in my lifetime09:27
ricardo_thoreauputic_ 21 mb09:27
sfaris:)09:27
thoreauputic_ricardo_: how big is your hard drive?09:28
aeolistthoreauputic_, i thought apt-get checked for free space before downloading & installing09:28
ricardo_thoreauputic_ 2gb09:28
ricardo_thoreauputic_ 228 mb for swapping09:28
aeolistricardo_, do a server install09:28
AngryElfif i've got a share mounted, then the server goes down, when i try umounting the share i get "/directory: device is busy"......how do i umount it???09:28
aeolistand then do a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop09:28
thoreauputic_ricardo_: in that case you probably need to do a server install and add stuff with apt-get09:28
thoreauputic_aeolist: :)09:29
ricardo_thoreauputic_ yes i did that09:29
aeolistthoreauputic_, i am faster.eat my dirt09:29
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thoreauputic_ricardo_: erm - and you installed ubuntu-desktop ?09:29
ricardo_i installed then the desktop09:29
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ricardo_yes09:29
thoreauputic_ricardo_: don't do that09:29
ricardo_why?09:29
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ricardo_what's wrong?09:29
void^AngryElf: may want to mount nfs with soft,intr ;)09:30
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thoreauputic_ricardo_: do a server install then install xubuntu-desktop09:30
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thoreauputic_ricardo_: it will take much less room09:30
ricardo_thoreauputic_ it's gona take a long time09:30
ricardo_how much less?09:30
AngryElfvoid^, what about for right now? :)09:30
mdkeor better, a minimal install then install xubuntu-desktop09:30
void^AngryElf: get the server back up :P09:31
AngryElfit is back up, but i still can't umount it, reboot?09:31
ricardo_can i uninstall some not usefull applications09:31
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thoreauputic_ricardo_: well, ubuntu-desktop takes 1.8 G including the base - so if xubuntu takes only 113 MB...09:31
void^heh.. if it's reachable it should fix itself automagically09:31
andrinagcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/../sanei/.libs/sanei_usb.o : No such file or directory09:31
ricardo_why that difference?09:31
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andrinawhat package would this be in?09:32
andrinawhat package would this be in?09:32
andrinasane-hp5400.c:35:24: error: sane/sanei.h: No such file or directory09:32
andrinasane-hp5400.c:36:32: error: sane/sanei_backend.h: No such file or directory09:32
andrinasane-hp5400.c:37:31: error: sane/sanei_config.h: No such file or directory09:32
thoreauputic_ricardo_: becuase ubuntu-desktop installs a lot of apps09:32
ricardo_thoreauputic_ like what?09:32
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thoreauputic_andrina: stop repeating please09:32
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ricardo_thoreauputic_ does xubuntu have openoffice?09:32
thoreauputic_ricardo_:  apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop   to see09:32
ricardo_stop andrina it makes me krazy09:32
thoreauputic_ricardo_: no09:33
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ricardo_thoreauputic_ yes i have a list09:33
thoreauputic_ricardo_:  apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop to see the difference09:34
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krishnahey09:34
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krishnacan anyone help me configure grub?09:34
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ricardo_thoreauputic_ yes i see09:35
thoreauputic_ricardo_: xubuntu-desktop is pretty nice09:35
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thoreauputic_ricardo_: and if you want to play with fluxbox you can install that as well - it's tiny09:35
krishnai don't even know where to start.... i would like to add another entry for windows... i have two windows partitions  and ubuntu only detected one09:35
patrick52222i just downloaded this "jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin" how do i install it09:36
aeolistkrishna, the manual is really helpful & straightforward... just google "grub manual"09:36
ricardo_thoreauputic_ how can i get fluxbox09:36
thoreauputic_!java09:36
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:36
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nick|herelines appear in de screen like this: http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ekrangoruntusu8tn.jpg09:36
nick|herehow can i fix it??09:36
krishnak... thanks09:36
aeolistkrishna, you'll have to edit a file called menu.lst in the grub directory which is in the boot directory09:36
thoreauputic_ricardo_:  sudo apt-get install fluxbox09:36
thoreauputic_ricardo_: apt is your friend :)09:36
aeolistkrishna, that's /boot/grub/menu.lst09:36
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krishnaalright, no wysiwyg prog for grub config?09:37
thoreauputic_ricardo_: just be sure to enable the repositories09:37
shukhrathello, everyone!09:37
ricardo_thoreauputic_ yes i'm getting familiar with it09:37
ashley3453if i have to run depmod -a  and ifup ra0 each time i reboot to get my wlan working what have I set up wrong ?09:37
clevernick|here,  those look likeproblems with your lcd pannel09:37
FlannelKingkrishna: it's really simple09:37
FlannelKingkrishna: honest09:37
ricardo_thoreauputic_ sorry but where is the difference between fluxbox and xubuntu-desktop09:37
krishnalol okay... i just get nervous about messing with the boot stuff09:37
nick|hereclever: i'm using CRT09:38
clevernick|here,  then it may be the video card09:38
FlannelKingkrishna: well, if you don't remove the old options, you can always select them at the grub menu.09:38
thoreauputic_ricardo_: big difference - xubuntu-desktop pulls in other apps - fluxbox is just a window manager09:38
ricardo_thoreauputic_ is fluxbox a good option09:38
clevernick|here, are they moving or constant?09:38
krishnaI don't have a floppy drive and getting it to work after is going to be a problem..09:38
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krishnaalright... i'll give it a try, thanks guys09:38
thoreauputic_ricardo_: I suggest you try xubuntu-desktop first09:38
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nick|hereclever: they are still, and appears when moving a window or resizing09:39
ricardo_thoreauputic_ how can i make space keeping gnome (for the moment)09:39
clevercould be linux then09:39
patrick52222when i try to install java i get this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1095809:39
cleveri was thinking it was similar to my problem09:39
thoreauputic_ricardo_: you can uminstall apps that you don't think you need09:39
shukhratdoes ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!09:39
ricardo_thoreauputic_ if i get fluxbox how the other appl work?09:39
thoreauputic_ricardo_: use synaptic or apt09:39
cleveri have horizontal lines that are copys of x pixels to the right09:39
cleverthat randomly jump about09:40
nick|hereclever: yep, the same09:40
clevercausing the screen to show double09:40
thoreauputic_ricardo_: all apps will work with any window manager09:40
ricardo_thoreauputic_ can i run my actual appl from fluxbox?09:40
thoreauputic_sure09:40
ricardo_ahh ok09:40
cleveralso it goes away when i turn up the res on the card09:40
sethkricardo_, almost everything doesn't care.  there are a few unimportant things (panel applets, and such) that might.09:40
thoreauputic_ricardo_: I'm running fluxbox here right now09:40
cleverredhat9 got rid of it by running at max res09:40
patrick52222when i try to install java i get this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1095809:40
cleverubuntu doesnt have it at all09:40
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patrick52222im getting the help from the restricted format page but i get errors09:41
nick|hereclever: i'm running at 1280x1024 and its the last09:41
cleverand one of my live cd's defaults to the mode that causes it09:41
shukhratdoes ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!09:41
ricardo_thoreauputic_ how can i change to fluxbox now?09:41
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thoreauputic_sethk: true - of course if you want to you can run gnome-panel in fluxbox - though I don't know why you would09:41
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ricardo_thoreauputic_ i have to restart?09:41
sethkpatrick52222, it tells you it can't find java-package.  So that's probably not the correct name09:41
thoreauputic_ricardo_: log out, choose it from "Sessions"09:42
sethkthoreauputic_, that's true09:42
thoreauputic_on the login screen09:42
ricardo_ok09:42
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thoreauputic_ricardo_: fluxbox is pretty minimal :)09:42
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shukhratdoes ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!09:43
ricardo_thoreauputic_ i know i can be heavy but tell me the advantages of having fluxbox or xubuntu09:43
void^fluxbox eats virtually no ram and takes virtually no time to start09:43
tonyyarussoHow to run Firefox 1.07 while 1.5 is installed a la wiki?09:43
patrick52222it is the right name as it says it on the restricted format page09:43
ricardo_thoreauputic_ what does it mean that fluxbox is only a window manager? what it can't do?09:43
thoreauputic_ricardo_: advantages of xubuntu-desktop : easier, more features - adv of flux - light on resources and configurable09:43
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ricardo_thoreauputic_ but xubuntu can do things that flux can't?09:44
tonyyarussoNever mind.  I just found it.  :P09:44
thoreauputic_ricardo_: it doesn't have "desktop" features like network config GUI, GUI for various other things...09:44
void^it's basically a matter of look and feel. just try it.09:44
thoreauputic_ricardo_: yes xubuntu-desktop has more features09:45
patrick52222or is ther any other help for java other than the restricted format page09:45
ricardo_thoreauputic_ so for this things flux will use gnome, is it ok?09:45
thoreauputic_ricardo_: fluxbox can do whatever you want it to, but requires more configuration and knowledge09:45
shukhratdoes ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!09:46
thoreauputic_ricardo_: no, flux doesn't use gnome09:46
thoreauputic_ricardo_: you are confused I think09:46
ricardo_yes a bit09:46
sfaris:)09:46
ricardo_but i'm learning09:46
patrick52222or is ther any other help for java other than the restricted format page09:46
ricardo_and i like it09:46
thoreauputic_ricardo_: you can run gnome apps in fluxbox09:46
ricardo_if you don't matter i would like to continue09:46
shukhratdoes ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!09:47
shukhratdoes ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!09:47
shukhratdoes ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!09:47
ricardo_ah like xmms and open office?09:47
thoreauputic_ricardo_: it's just a different way to control your desktop - and looks and feels different09:47
sfarisshukhrat: please09:47
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thoreauputic_ricardo_: just try it and see09:47
ricardo_well i'm looking for something very functional and it looks like it09:47
thoreauputic_ricardo_: http://fluxbox.org  for more information09:47
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AngryElfwhat is the file to edit group information?09:48
krishnahey guys... just a quick question about grub:  ubuntu thinks my second windows partition is on /dev/hda5, however it is actually the second partition on the hard drive, so does that make the "root" "(hd0,4)"  or "(hd0,1)"?09:48
krishnaand what does "savedefault" do?09:48
sethkAngryElf, /etc/group, but don't change it directly, using the utilities09:49
ricardo_thoreauputic_ i'm using x-chat there is a way to send you messages without writing your nick09:49
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AngryElfsethk, is the user 'root' a member of group 'root' I can't get that from the utils09:49
thoreauputic_ricardo_: why ? what do you need to do that for?09:49
thoreauputic_ricardo_: the answer is yes , of course...09:50
ricardo_because it tires me09:50
sethkAngryElf, sure you can.  just log in as root and run groups or id09:50
thoreauputic_ricardo_:   thore <tab>09:50
ricardo_always writing a nick at the beggining09:50
thoreauputic_ricardo_: tocomplete nicks hit tab09:50
ricardo_what?09:50
ricardo_so how i put the nick09:51
clevertype thore then hit the tab key09:51
thoreauputic_ricardo_: try   typing   thore <tan>09:51
thoreauputic_um <tab>09:51
cleverthe key that says tab on it:P09:51
ricardo_thore <tab>09:51
AngryElfsethk, so, how come when logged in as root I get 'permission denied' when trying to view some NFS shares that are owned by user=me group=root?09:51
sfaris:)09:51
thoreauputic_ricardo_: haha - no - press th tab key09:51
ricardo_thoreauputic_,09:51
ricardo_yes09:51
ricardo_hahaha09:51
ricardo_very funny09:51
thoreauputic_ricardo_: you got it :)09:51
ricardo_:)09:51
ricardo_thoreauputic_,  yes i see09:52
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sethkAngryElf, because the permissions don't allow you to see them.09:52
cleverxchat adds the , if the msg is starting with the name09:52
Kennietnx god ther is tab :), more easy to dir throught linux eg /usr/lo [tab]  etc09:52
ricardo_thoreauputic thank you09:52
AngryElfsethk, but i can't change the permissions09:52
sfarisif its more than one nick beginning with the given letters you can press <tab> several times.. ie tho<tab><tab><tab><tab><tab>09:52
thoreauputicricardo_: no problem :)09:52
sfaris:)09:52
ricardo_thoreauputic,  i'll be back in a second and i'll tell you what i think about flux09:53
cleveralso xchat wont finish if theres too many like t<tab> causes09:53
sethkAngryElf, I'd have to see the specifics to tell you why, but as root you can change the ownership or permissions.  It's possible the problem is user id or group id mapping by mount09:53
thoreauputicricardo_: right  click for  menu in flux09:53
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cleverinstead it lists all the posible choices for you in the window09:53
ricardo_ok09:53
sfarisclever: works for me09:53
sfarisoh, never mind :)09:53
sfarisim at work.. using mIRC :|09:54
cleveri know mirc alot better09:54
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clevermirc doesnt care how many start with what you typed and just forces you thru the list of 500 t names:P09:54
thoreauputic;)09:54
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cleverim only using xchat because ubuntu doesnt like wine09:54
cleverubuntu+wine=crash09:54
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cleverjust like driving+beer=crash09:55
AngryElfsethk, as root it gives me perm denied when i try to do anything (on the client)......on the server everything is me:root 744......and the UIDs for me are 1000 on both boxes09:55
thefishclever: check out konversation, its pretty cool as well09:55
Mika_iclever: :D09:55
void^use irssi09:55
cleveri only use irssi when the x server isnt up09:55
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nick|hereclever: have you got any solution for me?09:55
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thoreauputic!start an IRC client war09:55
ubotuthoreauputic: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:55
thoreauputicbah, ubotu is no fun09:56
sethkAngryElf, you can't even do ls?09:56
cleverhavent found my screenshot yet nick|here :S09:56
thoreauputicsomeone removed the "war" factoids :(09:56
AngryElfit gives me perm denied09:56
sethkAngryElf, it's possible to map a user id to another user id when something is mounted.  So, it might map 1000 to something else, which could make it invisible to you.09:56
sfarisnick|here, i think you might have got it wrong.. "nick here" means that you should have your nickname there ;D09:57
sethkAngryElf, that's one possible reason.09:57
sethkAngryElf, do you have root on the box where you can't see them?09:57
AngryElfsethk, yes, UID=009:57
clevernick|here, http://clever.mine.nu/download/laptop.jpg is a copy of my problem09:57
AngryElfsame on the server09:57
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nick|heresfaris: it's my decision09:57
sethkAngryElf, logged in as root, then, can you ls?09:57
clevernick|here, in the shot you can see 3 mouse pointers09:57
AngryElfno09:57
sfarisi know.. j/k :)09:57
AngryElfsethk, pm09:58
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nick|hereclever: not that bad. i have only 1 px thin black lines09:58
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harm_hi iam sorry, i avtn presearched this qeustion, but how do i switch from gnome to KDE?09:58
clevernick|here, when on lower res's the edges of my distortions are moving randomly09:58
thoreauputicn4cht: please turn you away script off09:59
clevernick|here, with 1pixel tall bits jumping in/out from the main line09:59
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overrideris there a way i can monitor the file deletions made to a samba fileserver? so when someone comes and says the file is gone, i can see who deleted it?10:01
cleverwhere by default is the xserver conf file?10:01
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thoreauputicclever: /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:02
clever:D10:02
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harm_how can i remove openoffice1, because i have 1 and 2 :P10:03
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boci^hi10:03
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boci^How can I upgrade ruby to 1.8.4 in ubuntu?10:03
thoreauputicgreetings boci^10:03
boci^(rails 1.1 not work with 1.8.3)10:04
sethkboci^, is there a package for it?  If not you'll have to build it from a tarball10:04
Seveasboci^, lart the ruby/rails developers so they care about backwards compatability10:04
sethkboci^, which isn't difficult but the package manager won't know about it.10:04
harm_how can i switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?10:04
Seveasboci^, ruby/ror are on serious crack10:04
boci^:/10:05
thoreauputicharm_: install kubuntu-desktop10:05
harm_thx10:05
thoreauputicharm_: that gives you the choice then of gnome or KDE10:05
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REyMnm10:05
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harm_can i install KDE and then remove GNOME? i seriously hate it10:06
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Eleafjoin #frosted10:06
EleafOMMom10:06
thoreauputicharm_: possible but tricky10:07
Seveas!removegnome10:07
ubotuWant to remove gnome/kde completely? Look at debfoster, it's a great help10:07
Eleafhmm10:07
harm_its hard?10:07
harm_=X well i mean if it really is hard its going to be a debian net install10:07
thoreauputicharm_: debfoster will help, as Seveas points out10:07
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thoreauputicharm_: alternatively, install kubuntu from a kubuntu CD10:08
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harm_i dont have a kubuntu CD, and i dont feel like burning it just for the sake of it10:09
thoreauputicharm_: then install kubuntu-desktop10:09
thoreauputicharm_: and use debfoster to remove gnome10:09
nick|hereclever: i have reinstalled my nvidia drivers, but when i try "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" getting error: Error: your X configuration has been altered.10:10
harm_i cant use synaptic manager?10:10
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thoreauputicharm_: sure you can - to install kubuntu-desktop10:10
cleveri havent installed video drives on linux before10:10
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thoreauputicharm_: to uninstall as well, if you wish10:10
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thoreauputicharm_: but you will probably need debfoster as well10:11
nick|herethoreauputic: can you help me?10:11
philccan I use modrewrite to rewrite a domain? I have domain forwarding on, so it's domain.com/page, and I want to rewrite that as "newdomain.com/page2" or something10:11
philcis that possible?10:11
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intelikeymorning folks.10:11
harm_there :) works like a charm i used synaptic and it asked mt prefered gnome or kde :)10:11
thoreauputicnick|here: I have no idea if I can or not... what is your issue ?10:11
thoreauputicharm_: right10:11
nick|herethoreauputic: i have reinstalled my nvidia drivers, but when i try "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" getting error: Error: your X configuration has been altered.10:11
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harm_thoreaputic thanks, you seem very knowledgeable about linux10:12
thoreauputicnick|here: sorry, i don't know about nvidia - have you read the wiki page?10:12
thoreauputic!nvidia10:12
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736810:12
nick|hereyep i followed the instructions at the wiki10:12
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nick|herethen i get the error10:12
gypsymaurohello, I'v einstalled a gtk1.2 app but fonts look so ugly and big..any hint?10:13
thoreauputicnick|here: just picked a few things up over the last few years ;)10:13
harm_:P10:13
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fekmoin10:13
thoreauputicumm nick|here sorry that was for someone else10:13
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boci^sethk, Seveas : ruby 1.8.3 is very buggy...10:14
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thoreauputicharm_: mostly about ubuntu and debian ( but I'm no guru I'm afraid)10:14
sethkboci^, ok, then use the newer one.10:14
harm_iam a lot beter off with debian net install actually10:14
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sethkboci^, I build it from source, and it isn't a problem, at least for me.10:15
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harm_but iam very sucky at linux10:15
thoreauputicharm_: whatever works for you - Debian is a fine distro of corse10:15
thoreauputic*course10:15
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harm_thoreaputic ubuntu is debian-like, but i wanne give kubuntu a go.. how do i switch from Gnome to KDe once installed?10:15
sethkharm_, ubuntu is so much simpler to install.  If you can install debian, you can surely learn to install ubuntu in an hour or two.10:15
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boci^sethk: ok, but rails 1.1 (released) is not work with 1.8.310:16
thoreauputicharm_: Not really much difference in operation between Ubuntu and Debian10:16
boci^agh I install from source...10:16
boci^thnx10:16
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sethkharm_, at the login screen, click on sessions10:16
RMeistah I already found it:)10:16
harm_ok thank tou sethk10:16
RMeistdidnt even had have to ask:P10:16
thoreauputicharm_: just choose the KDE session as sethk says10:16
harm_let me log back in10:16
BlueHeronman epsxe10:16
BlueHeronis great10:16
harm_brb10:16
!lilo:*! (small regional server ping out and reconnect; affected users, about 247)10:16
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intelikeyhmmm quiet morning or am i disconnected ?10:18
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harm_it worked :D10:19
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Seveasintelikey, you're disconnected10:19
sethkintelikey, both, probably10:19
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thoreauputicharm_: of course ;-)10:19
intelikeyyeah i noticed that Seveas when harm_ piped up, but thanks for confirming it for me  :)10:20
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thoreauputicintelikey: most of the channel has you on /ignore, that's all ;-)10:20
Seveasthoreauputic, that was a secret!10:21
harm_however it does appear that i cant simply remove gnome10:21
thoreauputicSeveas: oops!10:21
intelikeyi saw the server notice from lilo and then nothing for about a minute,,, made me wonder.10:21
sethkthoreauputic, if you put me on ignore, I'll never speak to you again!   :)10:21
intelikeythoreauputic :)10:21
harm_lol10:21
thoreauputicsethk: aww... ;-)10:21
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intelikeyi got banned for putting a chan op on ignore one time...10:22
Seveas/ignore *!*@* ALL10:22
Seveasignorance is bliss10:22
intelikeySeveas i've done that :)10:22
harm_Seveas sounds like your quite the chatter10:22
thoreauputicharm_: oh no - he's a dangerous disciplinarian ;-)10:23
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harm_i can run and hide like a six year old10:23
intelikeyheh10:23
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thoreauputicharm_: Seveas will find you! Resistance is futile!10:23
Seveasthoreauputic, au contraire - I'm leaving 10:24
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SeveasHave to look at a hoary server which takes 15 mins to reboot10:24
Teh_unfindablenow lets see if he finds me10:24
Seveasciao bambini10:24
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Chillien*Hi, just installed Ubuntu yesterday, I wanted a challenge compared to Windows. But I need some help mounting my HD and organizing folders, thanks in advance10:25
intelikey!ntfs10:25
ubotuit has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:25
AngryElfhow would I make links to every file in /directory/ without doing each one individually?10:26
intelikeyChillien ^10:26
intelikeyAngryElf link the folder ?10:26
Teh_unfindableAh chillien yesterday i found a nice guide which got it working for me10:26
JDahlI have a partly broken network in Dapper/AMD64. There's a nameclash between eth1 and eth0, so I always have to type "sudo ifup eth1=eth0" to get the network running. Any ideas on what to look for for fixing it?10:26
AngryElfno i want links to every file10:26
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PlugAngryElf: for i in /foo/*; do ln -s $i . ; done10:26
ChillienI would like to format my HD to a non windows parti, how?10:27
NabikiAre there any Japanese friendly IRC clients for Linux?10:27
intelikeyAngryElf no way without doing every one then,  that i know of.  but you could do with a for statement.10:27
thoreauputicAngryElf: you can symlink the whole dir - same effect10:27
intelikeylet the system repete the process for you.10:27
variantChillien: mkreiserfs /dev/hd<partition number>10:28
intelikeythoreauputic i just said that.10:28
AngryElfPlug,  that worked, thanx!10:28
intelikey:)10:28
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Plugnp10:28
thoreauputicintelikey: erm, yes OK - sorry for breathing ;)10:28
intelikeylol10:28
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intelikeyit's not whether or not you breath. it's how your breath smells   :)10:29
thoreauputicintelikey: you don't want to know...10:29
intelikeyno10:29
Chillienthanks, working on it10:29
intelikeylet's don't go there thoreauputic :)10:30
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BobC2Hello, Like Chillien my 2nd day with Linux (Ubunto is amazing!) I'd like to used Gimp Help say I need to load "Gimphelp-en" ..How, where please?10:30
thoreauputic;-)10:30
intelikeyyo  toss the blunt  homey10:30
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variantBobC2: apt-get install gimphelp-en i guess10:31
wezzerBobC2: open up synaptic and search there10:31
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thoreauputicBobC2: sudo apt-get install gimp-help-en10:31
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youngin what directory should I install java in?10:31
home2Man I love this software!!!!\10:31
thoreauputicBobC2: to find that I did  apt-cache search gimp | grep help10:31
intelikey!java10:31
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:31
intelikey!javadeb10:32
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/10:32
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ChillienI actually found  Automatix or something yesterday, now THAT was a cool utility10:32
youngthank you10:32
AngryElfPlug, 'done' ends the for loop, yes?.......10:32
home2Does anyone know What I put in to connect to aol instant messanger?10:32
BobC2variant wezzer thoreauputic thanks but I don't know what means?  On google thoreauputic?10:32
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Plugyes10:32
Plug(it ends the 'do' loop)10:32
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sfarisBobC2: no, in the terminal :)10:33
JDahlmy /etc/network/interfaces is configured for eth0, but eth0 cannot be activated, rather I have to map it to eth1 via "sudo ifup eth1=eth0" - any clues on where to dig in to fix it?10:33
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vladuz976one question, how hard is it to get ipod with gtkpod working under ubuntu?10:33
thoreauputicBobC2: in a termianl, type  sudo apt-get install gimp-help-en10:33
BobC2sfaris ahh OK10:33
sfarisBobC2: You can use synaptic (system -> admin -> synaptic) to search for packages10:33
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ChillienI am so lost, whats the point with the filesystem and all that?10:34
thoreauputicBobC2: synaptic is an easier way to find software if you prefer to point and click :)10:34
BobC2thoreauputic sfaris gottcha thanks10:34
home2I would like to connect and get my buddy list in aol instant messange I don't know the address to put it this xchat10:34
intelikeyChillien ?10:34
thoreauputicChillien: everything is below /10:34
BobC2thoreauputic thanks I am a GUI kinda guy!10:34
thoreauputicChillien: the root of the filesysytem10:34
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intelikeyBobC2 that wont last long10:35
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thoreauputic*filesystem10:35
ChillienWell, I am used to having  C and D etc, browse these two discs, have one with programs and the other  disc with media files10:35
phantomcircuitif your ex is making out with someone in front of you, and the guy is doign it because he's a) to stupid b) is tryign to piss me off, do you think id be justified in cutting his achilles tendon and watchign him flop around liek a fish out of water10:35
PlugJDahl: do you have a module mapped to eth1 in /etc/modules.conf ?10:35
rnd_nulldoes anyone use bluetooth with ubuntu?10:35
thoreauputicChillien: yes, you are indoctrinated ;)10:35
thoreauputicChillien: linux uses a different model, that's all10:36
intelikeyBobC2 i said the same exact words "I am a GUI kinda guy!" about two years ago.   i don't even start x anymore unless i need to look at a picture.   and don't have to for that.10:36
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home2anyone get there autocad working on the Ubuntu Yet?10:36
BobC2intelikey lol Well as an old Amiga head that had a nice CLI I still am..perhaps Ubunto might change that!10:36
ChillienAfter typing inside the Terminal: mkreiserfs /dev/hd<1>     A new thing came up, hdd1 but I cant do anything with it10:36
JDahlPlug, no. In fact, I only have /etc/modules, which doesnt have it either. This is a new problem after I dist-upgraded to dapper a week back10:36
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thoreauputicChillien: what are you actually tring to do?10:37
thoreauputic*trying10:37
JDahlPlug, "sudo ifup eth0" tells me: "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"10:37
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BobC2intelikey Ahhh 2 years  maybe..just maybe!  lol10:37
intelikey:)10:37
Plugpastebin the /etc/network/interface file?10:37
BobC2Thank all for ther help and kind words!10:37
rnd_nulli need help with PPP, I have a device that I cannot get to connect via bluetooth, I keep getting a timeout 0x1231 error.  Does anyone know anything about this?10:37
ChillienI just wish that there werent so many folders laying randomly around10:37
sfarisdoes anybody know a good site where the filesystem is explained (what lost+found, /etc, /boot, /dev is for e.t.c)?10:38
Plugsfaris: FHS10:38
sfarisfhs?10:38
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Plughang on10:38
thoreauputicChillien: nothing random about it - you just don't understand it yet10:38
thoreauputic:)10:38
home2Are you pretty good with know setting on this Ubuntu and Xchat10:38
ChillienI also have a 250GB HD which is always locked when I try to modify it10:38
Plughttp://www.wlug.org.nz/FileSystemHierarchy10:38
AngryElfPlug, can you take a look at somethin for me? pm?10:38
BlueHeronChillien: from a live-cd ?10:38
sethkJDahl, at one time there must have been an eth0 in your box, that is now removed, broken, disabled in bios, or something like that.10:38
PlugAngryElf: tell the channel10:38
Chilliennope, I installed the whole thing10:38
JDahlPlug, it looks fine, the relevant line is: "iface eth0 inet dhcp"... by googling I saw a few threads with people having the same Dapper problem for wireless LANs - apparently it's a udev problem, I was just hoping there's an easy fix10:38
sfaris10x 2 Plug!!!1 ;D10:38
ChillienTHere is a lock on the folder I mount it to10:38
AngryElfpm10:38
JDahlsethk, yes - I've always used eth010:39
PlugAngryElf: no, the channel can help too10:39
BlueHeronChillien: sudo chmod 777 /dir/name10:39
home2I'll give someone a piece of software if they help me!10:39
AngryElfoh, i didn't want to paste code, it's not much tho10:39
BlueHeronhome2: oooh oooh pick me10:39
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PlugJDahl: never done much with udev, can't help you sorry10:40
home2god no one would help unless the goods are given out...10:40
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Plugahh10:40
home2I need help setting up my xchat to talk to my aol friends with there istant messgers10:40
PlugJDahl: /etc/iftab10:40
JDahlthe strange thing is how eth1 came into the picture - if it's not in /etc/network/interface, where would it be defined?10:40
kleinlappiesis ubuntu good for making it my multimedia pc eg. watching movies (vis tv out on my t.v) palying  music etc.10:41
BlueHeronhome2: lol, xchat doesnt' do AIM10:41
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BlueHeronhome2: sudo apt-get install gaim10:41
Plugit will probably map your MAC to eth110:41
ChillienBut so, when I format my HD there are so many options!  Format Type, access path bla bla10:41
Chillienwhat should I do, please?10:41
seliniumhome2, gaim10:41
rnd_nullkleinlappies, yes10:41
Eleafgaim should already be installed anyways BlueHeron ;)10:41
PlugAngryElf: use the pastebin in the topic10:41
seliniumhome2, there is no need to bribe people, just ask the question!10:41
home2in the repository10:41
thoreauputicChillien: you need to be much more specific - I suggest you read a bit about the linux filesystem10:42
Chillienbtw, I ahve my music on my iPod, I used to use Winamp to extract the mp3's from the iPod onto my comp10:42
kleinlappiesrnd_null can you maybe tell me what is the best movie player?10:42
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seliniumhome2 check your Applications/Internet dropdown menus..10:42
BlueHeronEleaf: good point it's 3:42 AM here, i forgot :-P10:42
thoreauputicChillien: try looking at   http://help.ubuntu.com and google10:42
home2thank you...10:42
AngryElfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10964  I'm basically trying to flatten the directory tree, but that code's giving me an error with the 2nd for loop.......i'm not to shell scripting, what'd i do wrong?10:42
AngryElf*new10:42
EleafBlueHeron, hehe.10:42
PlugFlatten the tree?10:42
kleinlappiesi want to sit infront of the t.v and via bluettoth remote watch my movies and series10:43
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PlugOh, I see10:43
JDahlPlug, actually the mac address for eth0 in /etc/iftab doesnt match the output from ifconfig.10:43
rnd_nullkleinlappies, i use totem and vlc, between those 2 just about any format video i want to play will play (except for some wm9 and wm10 encoded videos)10:43
Plugyou need a do/done around the foj10:43
ChillienWell ok, I have a 80GB which is now 60GB after ubuntu taking up 20 GB for some reason. I also have a 250GB which a want to mount and have my media files. Now how would I format it and *install* it?10:43
Plugfor j10:43
AngryElfi want every file beneath pictures to be linked to in links10:43
Plugfor i in *; do for j in *; do foo; done; done;10:43
home2ok gaim I know got...that was fast10:43
liableChillien: what? ubuntu has actually *used* 20G??10:43
PlugJDahl: that probably means it can't assign eth010:43
rnd_nullkleinlappies, oh, they will also cover dvd playing as well10:43
Plugcos its not the right card10:43
home2Now do you know the server input10:43
kleinlappiesrnd_null ah who needs those win formats anywahys10:44
Chillienyes liable10:44
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thoreauputicChillien: is the 250GB already holding files? In ntfs filesystem ?10:44
BlueHeronhome2: server input ?10:44
ChillienI guess it was a windows parti before I installed Linux, but thats possible to change?10:44
ChillienI have no problems formating it10:44
rnd_nullkleinlappies my tv card works great too, i use TVTime with absolutely no problems10:44
BlueHeronChillien: if the drive isn't in use yet format it to EXT310:45
thoreauputicChillien: there's no way that Ubuntu has filled 20GB in a default install10:45
JDahlPlug, I feel kind of stupid now... I had my motherboard with onboard netcard replaced due to malfunction - but I still managed to dist-upgrade with the new netcard before things went sour10:45
BlueHeronJDahl: lol10:45
home2I see its the aol instant messanger10:45
PlugJDahl: don't worry :)  That fixed it?10:45
BlueHeronhome2: just put in your account name / password10:45
kleinlappiesrnd_null sorry what is TVTime?10:45
thoreauputicChillien: you just need to identify it ( try sudo fdisk -l in a terminal)10:45
Chillienthe "Original" size of the disc is 73, it has now 63gb left10:45
kleinlappiesi have a nvidia card10:45
rnd_nullkleinlappies its a program that runs your tv card so you can watch tv on your computer10:46
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kleinlappiesrnd_null oh10:46
BlueHeronChillien: in a terminal do this please, sudo tune2fs -m 010:46
thoreauputicChillien: that would be 10G then? Is that the size you specified on install ?10:46
seliniumhome2: Take a look at the home page, Oodles of info http://gaim.sourceforge.net/10:46
BlueHeronChillien: then tell us the free space10:46
BlueHeronthoreauputic: i think he is reserving 5%10:46
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JDahlPlug, I dont know the right way to configure the MAC of eth0... I doubt manually editing /etc/iftab is recommended10:46
PlugRemove the line10:46
Plugudev will say "can't allocate eth0" and go to eth110:46
ChillienI didnt specify anything, it just started installing after I formatted the 80Gig10:46
Plugsee what I mean?10:47
BlueHeronChillien: do that command please10:47
BlueHeronChillien: in a terminal do this please, sudo tune2fs -m 010:47
kleinlappiesrnd_null i live in south afica and here we can do that but we can't get the shedule of programs from our sattelite service10:47
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odati am having audio / video sync problems in any player10:47
rnd_nullkleinlappies o10:47
ChillienI am now formating the 250GB , extend 3 or whatever10:47
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BlueHeronChillien: if you listen to me you can save some more space ..10:47
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ChillienI will try to command after I formatted it Extend 310:47
BlueHeronChillien: do that on all your HD's10:48
Chillienk10:48
kleinlappiesrnd_null its a pain --i can watch tv but not setup a shedule to record for the day10:48
BlueHeronit will increase the free space10:48
home2Thank you...It works very well!10:48
odati am having audio / video sync problems in any player10:48
Chillienthanks for reply10:48
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Chillienwhen I chose extend 3 it auto choses extend 2?10:49
kleinlappiesrnd_null im gonna take this one step at a time -- want to make a windows media centre style pc for the home10:49
home2I have never used such great software until recently! How come more people don't use this linux10:49
thoreauputicChillien: ext3 is just ext2 plus a journal10:49
intelikeyBlueHeron you talking about reducing reserved block percentage on extfs  or what ?10:49
BlueHeronintelikey: yea10:50
JDahlPlug, thanks - that probably fixes it!  I will restart the network and see what happens10:50
intelikeyk10:50
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BlueHeronintelikey: what would cause my delete key to stop auto-repeating like i gotta hit it over and over? is that xserver ?10:50
odati am having audio / video sync problems in any player  ubuntu on a p3 1.0 ghz 512 ram10:50
BlueHeronintelikey: can i just reconfigure xserver ?10:50
Chilliennow the 250GB is Windows NTFS, I dunno if that makes sense. But ok, where should I mount to10:50
BlueHeronChillien: /media/storage or /mnt/storage or something10:50
nick|here/etc/init.d/gdm start fails but startx starts the X server?10:51
Chillienok10:51
intelikeyBlueHeron yeah.  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:51
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BlueHeronChillien: but if it's NTFS you need to format it10:51
ChillienI have formatted it 6 times now but it always comes out as windows10:51
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BlueHeronintelikey: is the ATI official drivers show as fglrx also?10:51
sethkBlueHeron, mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd??10:51
seliniumhome2: people buy computers with Windows installed as standard, they never get to see other software.10:52
intelikeyChillien use cfdisk and change the partition type.10:52
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Chillienk, ty10:52
BlueHeronintelikey: i can't remember10:52
odati am having audio / video sync problems in any player  ubuntu on a p3 1.0 ghz 512 ram10:52
home2What are you having trouble with regarding Windows I might know10:52
intelikeyBlueHeron idk10:52
sethkBlueHeron, sorry, wrong nick10:52
intelikey!ati10:52
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358910:52
BlueHeronsethk: no problem10:52
intelikeymaybe there listed ^10:52
thoreauputicodat: don't repeat - we saw the first time10:52
ChillienFATAL ERROR: Cannot open disc drive, when writing :cfdisk10:52
thoreauputicodat: please be more specific10:52
kleinlappieshi10:52
intelikeyChillien as root10:53
AngryElfif i do -> for i in pictures/*; then for j in $i.........it won't interpret $i as a directory, but it's not giving an error either10:53
thoreauputicodat: have you set dma on your hard drive?10:53
sethkChillien, either you have a serious problem (unlikely), or you used the wrong partition name or you aren't root10:53
thoreauputic!dma10:53
odataudio vid sync is fine with the same file on a different   faster machine10:53
home2your logical drives are setup correctly10:53
kleinlappiesfor connecting to the net via pppoe what is the best tool to use at the moment im using the pppoeconf command10:53
thoreauputic!tell odat about dma10:53
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PlugAngryElf: you could do for j in `ls $i`10:53
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painkilerhey guys10:54
ChillienThe HD name is /dev/hdd110:54
sethkAngryElf, in that syntax, $i is a list, not a directory.  a directory happens to be a list of files, but the relevant property is list.10:54
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intelikeyChillien no10:54
intelikeyleave the 1 off10:54
sethkAngryElf, as plug said  $(ls $i) will turn it into a list if it is the name of a directory10:54
painkilerwhats the gnome-art thing called again?10:54
sethkAngryElf, use $(), not ``10:54
Chillienhow?10:54
painkilerthe one you apt-get10:54
intelikeyChillien sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd10:54
Chillienah!10:55
sethkChillien, if you already have a partition, you don't need to run fdisk/cfdisk/whatever-fdisk10:55
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painkileri need to install a splash screen10:55
ChillienThen I chose delete?10:55
BlueHeronpainkiler: gnome-art10:55
sethkChillien, you just need to format the partition10:55
painkilernot there10:55
sethkChillien, to delete what?  why?10:55
intelikeysethk it's ntfs partition and it is causing problems10:55
ChillienI acutally managed to install splash screen :D10:55
BlueHeronpainkiler: you got a good sources.list ?10:55
manichinoart-manager10:55
home2if your not formated and or partioned correctly you will always get that fatal error10:55
ChillienI get a menu with, boot, delete, write bla bla10:55
painkileryeah, latest dapper10:55
sethkintelikey, then he can change the partition type10:56
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intelikeythat's what i instructed ^ up there sethk10:56
painkilerim going to se if i have10:56
sethkChillien, you want it to be a linux partition, change the partition type.10:56
intelikey8310:56
cdocan anyone tell me where sources.list is located at ?10:56
BlueHeron /etc/apt10:56
Fujitsu/etc/apt/sources.list10:56
sethkChillien, in fdisk it is "t".  Not sure about cfdisk, which I generally don't use.10:56
home2I've had a system take a operating system and fatal error everytime while running10:56
ChillienThen I get a 100 choices10:56
cdoFujitsu thanks10:57
kleinlappiespainkiller there is a app in sysaptic do a search its name is gnome-spash-?10:57
intelikeycdo yep everyone in here it seems can tell that.10:57
cdointelikey yeah im new .. sorry10:57
sethkChillien, intelikey told you.  it is hex 83, linux.  there are only two you care about, linux, and linux swap.10:57
hawaisurfhi I have a problem with my screen resolution....it seems that I just can choose 640x480 in my screenresolution menu...how I can change it?10:57
home2I had to have the right format done and then after partioned it stopped10:57
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BlueHeronmost people don't know about tune2f10:57
BlueHerons10:57
vladuz976how can i change the ownership of a directory?10:57
sfarisintelikey: thank you very much10:57
home2it's in applications10:57
BlueHeronvladuz976: chown10:57
ChillienThen just quit?10:57
home2I saw it10:57
intelikeysfaris np10:58
manichinopreferences resolutin screen10:58
sethkhawaisurf, usually that means that your monitor was not recognized and the x config program doesn't know what resolutions it supports10:58
intelikeyChillien write to disk and quit10:58
odatits not dma10:58
home2I run this ubuntu on my new Gateway10:58
Chillienthank you :D!10:58
vladuz976like chown +x ?10:59
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vladuz976to make a directory writable?10:59
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hawaisurfsethk: but in the last sesion was everything working ok...how can I change it then?10:59
intelikey"chown +x ?"   :)10:59
home2I have 3 operating systems on there own partions Ubuntu is my favorite by far....I only wish I had the same applications I;m use to>10:59
thoreauputicvladuz976: chown -R username:groupname <dir>10:59
Chillien"No primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this.10:59
Chillien                 Toggle bootable flag of the current partition10:59
Chillien"10:59
odati am having audio / video sync problems in any player  ubuntu on a p3 1.0 ghz 512 ram10:59
Chillieneuuu, after using write "yes"10:59
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intelikeydos can't boot ext3 anyway11:00
JDahlPlug, you're a lifesaver - it solved my problem!11:00
Chillienbut I am done?11:00
intelikeyyeah11:00
home2if you get that far with the boot flag you should just delete reformat with correct format type: I like number 3 It always seems to work the best11:00
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Chillienlal, still says Windows NTFS in the  Disks program11:01
painkilerman, it seems that gnome has been removed underneath my feet.11:01
painkilerthat sucks11:01
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intelikeyChillien did you close it and restart it ?11:01
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Chillienrestart?11:01
intelikeythe "Disks program"11:02
Chillienyep11:02
intelikeypastebin your fstab11:02
intelikey!paste11:02
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.11:02
intelikey /etc/fstab11:02
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home2I need to get my Wirless Card Setup and One have a clue...Its a belkin11:02
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home2In ubuntu...Linspire Does it so I;m convience Ubuntu can too..11:03
Chillien!paste11:03
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.11:03
intelikeyi don't know anything about the "Disks program"  but i know how to make linux mount ext3 partitions11:03
Chillienah, this is why I hate linux, Everything becomes so damn complicated11:04
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ChillienI tried getting Wine to work yesterday too but no good11:04
home2Oh....You need to go here chillen....I just remembered!11:04
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GTroyok, ok I love XGL, BUT the nvidia card says don't use in under 300watt power supply and mine is only a 25011:04
home2it is called Ultimate Boot Disk....get the image and burn to cd and then boot full of disk utilitys the best I love it11:04
GTroyHELP!!!11:05
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sethkChillien, if you hate it, why do you use it?11:05
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Chillienbecause I want something new11:05
GTroyChillien: ubuntu rocks like nothing else11:05
Chillienso tired of Windows11:05
Chillienbut then again windows is the only option, except mac but thats just expensive11:05
joukeHi, I just install ubuntu and I am experimenting with nis. I can login with nis already and stuff, but now I want to give audio rights to nis users. how do I do that?11:05
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sethkChillien, your problem is you are trying to find an "easy" way to do it.  You can do the whole job with a couple of utilities in a few minutes.  Just run fdisk /dev/hdd, then choose change partition type, put in the partition number, and set the type to 83.  done11:06
Chillienk11:06
intelikeyChillien as you learn how and why it get's less and less "so damn complicated"11:06
neoxanChillien, theres a #ubuntu-fr channel :))11:06
ChillienI am Norwegian11:06
ChillienI live in PAris11:06
neoxan#ubuntu-no11:06
GTroyI've got more done in ubuntu in 7 months than with windows in 10 years11:06
neoxan;)11:06
neoxan:D11:06
Chillienfdisk /dev/hdd11:07
Chillienunable to open fdisk /dev/hdd11:07
intelikeysudo11:07
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home2I've just started using it for my server..I've been buying domains check out my store www.StopOneShop.Com11:08
GTroywill my computer blow chunks if I use a card that requires too much power?11:08
Chillienafter doing fdisk, then what?11:08
home2The only way to do Email and Ecommerce.11:08
GTroycard box says 300W I've got 250....11:08
GTroydamn!11:08
GTroyoops sorry!11:09
intelikeyGTroy no.  the ps will 'give up the ghost' tho11:09
home2The Only Software....Ubuntu11:09
GTroywell since I can't fix the ps, I'd better not11:09
ChillienFirst cylinder (1-30401, default 1):11:09
Chillien?11:09
GTroytime for a new box!!!11:09
intelikey111:09
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ChillienLast cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-30401, default 30401):11:10
Chillien lol, what is all this?11:10
home2Anyone Check out My Store Yet...Http://www.StopOneShop.Com11:10
joukeChillien,11:10
intelikey3040111:11
joukewhat do you want to do?11:11
joukemake one big partition?11:11
liablemintle??11:11
ChillienI want my HD, 250GB to become a non Windows HD. I can browse it and add media to it11:11
home2It being setup But I'll take Suggestions....anyone good with Creating Awsome Web Pages11:11
intelikeyvery mintle  yes liable,   i road the short bus. leave me alone.11:11
agalavisChillien: regarding the price of macs, you can still get a mac mini... but then again, i used to use osX and now that i use linux i don't see the point in going back :D11:11
Chillien /cry11:12
home2I run my linux and windows on the same Laptop11:12
home2I think it is going to blow up11:12
ChillienIt must be the disc programs that came along Ubuntu that just sucks11:12
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liableintelikey: you're a kiwi? :)11:13
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ChillienI guess I should install it all over again, or just go to Win again...11:13
intelikeyhome2 me too,  i dual boot linux and win95 on my lappy.  it's a 80486 with 24m ram and  356m hd            kiwi ?11:14
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home2I found when installing other linux before ubuntu it messes up the Boot loader, so Ubuntu Always has to be setup last11:14
intelikeyerr 256m hd11:14
liablenew zullander...11:14
GTroyintelikey: that's crazy old11:14
intelikeyGTroy yeah.  i  installed both via floppy disks11:15
Chillienargh, I am so confused11:15
variantChillien: just run mkreiserfs /dev/hdd111:15
home2Does anyone know wether or not the I686 is Better than the i386 I've ran both and cant tell the difference11:15
GTroyhome2: slight difference11:15
Chillienhaeheahae: Failed to open '/dev/hdd1': Permission denied.11:15
GTroyhardly noticable though11:15
variantChillien: try it as root11:15
Chillienroot?11:16
intelikeyhome2 only if you need i686 for some driver or app.11:16
variantsudo mkreiserfs /dev/hdd111:16
intelikey!root11:16
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.11:16
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AngryElfhow do i do "for j-1 in /foo" etc...11:16
intelikey!sudo11:16
ubotusudo is, like, totally, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.11:16
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ChillienIt is doing something now at least11:16
varianti really hate sudo.. but its good for new users i guess11:16
ChillienReiserFS is successfully created on /dev/hdd1.11:17
home2How many people here run there Ubuntu off there laptop11:17
variantChillien: now you can mount the partition.. add it to fstab to make it always mount11:17
robhome2, I do11:17
intelikeyAngryElf     for  this in `ls -1 dir`  ;do echo $this ;done    <--- that is the syntax.11:17
ChillienIT said I had to RS11:17
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variantChillien: rs?11:17
Chillienisnt there a way to fast restart?11:17
NiklasH_workok, anyone know what has happened to se.archive.ubuntu.com? All the files seem to have gone11:18
home2I need help with My Wireless Card For going wireless at hotspots...to get it to be recognized...11:18
Chillienfstab?11:18
YukiCussNiklasH_work, are you using dapper?11:18
variantChillien: you dont need to, only if you fdisked it11:18
NiklasH_workyep11:18
YukiCussThe Dapper mirrors often go down, and are unstable.11:18
variantChillien: just type mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt11:18
intelikeythe    `ls -1 dir`    would be executed and all the information it returned would then be ran in the echo command one line at a time.11:18
YukiCussDue to people updating them.11:18
home2Ubuntu can't run it yet11:18
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ChillienWell, ok, but the program told me to rs the comp11:18
varianthome2: what card is it?11:18
NiklasH_workbut when i look at the archive, there are no files at all there11:18
variantChillien: yeah, ignore that11:18
home2I need it to Run it...a Belkin11:18
Tapiwanashehello11:18
YukiCussNiklasH_work, it does happen.11:18
Chillienshould i do "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt" or just "mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt"?11:19
home2802.1111:19
NiklasH_workthat even the breezy files disappear?11:19
YukiCussNiklasH_work, consider adding archive.ubuntu.com as a mirror for dapper, until it's released, or just wait until it gets files again.11:19
variantChillien: it says "if you modified dos partitons you need to reboot adfter fdisk" you didnt do that so you dont need to11:19
AngryElfintelikey, I've got it working, except that "for j in blah" is running one too many times which produces a dead link........so i want to run it j-1 times.......but when i do "for j-1 blah" it says j-1 isn't a proper identifier11:19
YukiCussNiklasH_work, ooooh...11:19
YukiCuss..well!11:19
variantChillien: sudo11:19
YukiCussNiklasH_work, I stand mistaken and corrected. :)11:19
NiklasH_work:)11:19
variantChillien: the better way is to set up the partition in /etc/fstab11:19
Chillienif it wasnt for this IRC channel I would have given up11:19
NiklasH_workok, i'll just use archive.ubuntu.com in the meantime.11:19
intelikeythis is NOT micro-$oft reboot windows.11:19
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intelikeyAngryElf j-1  or j -1    ?11:20
AngryElfj-111:20
AngryElfwhite space?11:20
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Chillienlol11:20
sethkAngryElf, j-1 is an expression, not an identifier11:20
sethkAngryElf, it isn't a variable in the sense of an integer in a programming language11:20
sethkAngryElf, usually when you are having this sort of problem, you've chosen the wrong language11:21
ChillienNothing different..11:21
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NiklasH_workdamn, archive.ubuntu.com is SLOOOWWWW....11:22
YukiCussNiklasH_work, depends where you live, I suppose. For me, too. :)11:22
Chillienand why is there a hdd1 under  computer:///11:22
Chillienand I cant access it11:22
K2manGreat ubuntu upgrade to day - faster gnome - less memory used in desktop.  Brilliant.11:22
NiklasH_workyeah, hope se.archive... gets on its feet again soon11:22
variantChillien: just ubuntu/gnome trying to make things easy and failing11:22
sethkChillien, you could have done this at least 20 times by now if you didn't keep trying to find an "easier" way11:22
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Chillienis there a way in going back?11:23
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variantChillien: go back to where?11:23
K2manok tony - I get it.11:23
ChillienI dunno, to when I installed this damn thing11:23
variantChillien: in gnome add a panel applet called disk mounter.. its pretty good11:23
variantChillien: whats the problem?11:24
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Chillienits all messed up, the hdd1, it thinks its the primary I want to mount not the free 250GB one11:24
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Chillienso I cant do anything, of course11:24
sethkChillien, what thinks what is "the primary?"  your disk has 1 to 4 primary partitions.11:25
varianthuh? you mount whatever you want.. dont use teh file manager that will never work right11:25
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sethkChillien, if you've changed the partition type, now all you need to do is:   mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdd111:25
variantChillien: mkdir /media/hdd111:25
ChillienI have my 80 B which I installed ubuntu on11:26
Chillienwhich is "Primary" i guess11:26
variantChillien: sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd111:26
variantChillien: then you can put files in /media/hdd1 which will be stored on that filesystem11:26
sethkChillien, I think you are confusing primary/secondary IDE with primary/extended partition.  The two have absolutely nothing to do with each other.11:26
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jax0mwho knows anything about wireless?11:26
sethkjax0m, I know it's a PITA  :)11:27
jax0mheh11:27
sethkjax0m, you'll have better luck if you ask a specific question11:27
kameronif i want to sort through a list of files and show files that do not contain a certain string, how would i do this?11:27
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sethkkameron, grep -v string filenames11:27
sethkkameron, sorry, I forgot -l11:28
sethkkameron, grep -l -v string filenames11:28
sethkkameron, is in:  grep -l -v xyz abc*11:28
intelikey<Chillien> I have my 80 B which I installed ubuntu on  <Chillien> which is "Primary" i guess  <--- if it's not  you have already messed the install.  but if i standunder you.  that is not the case.   primary hd  will be  /dev/hda   and from what i've seen you havent tuched that yet.11:28
sethkkameron, the -l says list files, don't show strings, and the -v says invert the sense, meaning files without string11:28
sethkChillien, intelikey is correct.  by virtue of it being hdd, it is secondary slave11:29
kameronsethk, thanks a lot manggggg11:29
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sethkChillien, primary/second master/slave, for ide drives, is a function of how they are cabled and jumpered.  nothing you can do in software has any effect on that.11:30
sethkChillien, well, grub sort of tries to fake out an effect, but don't worry about that  :)11:30
onesandzerosguys... have any of you used the install-via-Knoppix method?  I'm looking at the wiki page here, and it doesn't look like a problem, except for one thing--I want to install Kubuntu.  Will I run into trouble here?11:31
JDahldmesg gives me alot of "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)".. is there a good reason to boot with apic, or should I should remove it in grub with pci=noacpi?11:31
intelikeyonesandzeros shouldn't.11:31
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shukhratdoes ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!11:32
oskudeonesandzeros, kubuntu is "just" "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in a normal ubuntu...11:32
AngryElfif anyone is interested in my noob-like ability to write shell scripts......http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10966  ...it works now11:32
onesandzerosintelikey, oskude : ok, thanks.  I'll see how it goes...11:32
NiklasH_workshukhrat: openoffice can save files av pdf11:32
NiklasH_workshukhrat: don't know if that's what you want, though... :)11:32
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shukhratNiklash_work: i want save my Gimp's projects in PDF11:34
sethkAngryElf, good.  when you have some time look into python as an alternative for this sort of thing11:34
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sethkonesandzeros, not really, you can install ubuntu and then install the KDE desktop.11:35
sethkonesandzeros, it is much much much much easier to install ubuntu with the ubuntu installer.11:35
sethkonesandzeros, why you would do it any other way is mystifying11:35
onesandzerossethk, switching to kdm from gdm won't take much wil it?11:36
onesandzerosyeah....11:36
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onesandzerosI have a cd here, but something's wrong with it.  Maybe I'll just download another one11:36
sethkonesandzeros, no, switching to kdm isn't a problem, although it also doesn't buy you anything.11:36
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sethkonesandzeros, yes, download another cd.  it will take a while but your install will be a snap11:36
oskudeshukhrat, pdf is no image format, but it can contain images, so maybe save your image in gimp, and then open it in openoffice and save as pdf (but i think there are allso command line tools to make this, or a python script for gimp...)11:37
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shukhratoskude: first in Gimp then openoffice then PDF ? no it's way long ? can jimp convert files to PDF ?11:38
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chillien_ /cry11:39
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oskudeshukhrat, dunno, as i said, pdf is no image format, so i cant understand why you do this... try the gimp homepage to see if there are any pdf plugins/scripts (or google)11:40
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onesandzerossethk, I'm only seeing dvd torrents on torrent.ubuntu.org.  Are cd torrents out there?11:41
shukhratoskude: Thanks11:41
sethkonesandzeros, I imagine, but I just use straight downloads, I haven't used the torrents with ubuntu11:42
chillien_Can I send my screenshot to someone so that they can check what the f*** is worng with this thing?11:43
jeddy3onesandzeros, ordinary cd torrents is on cdimage.ubuntu.com11:43
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chillien_please!?11:44
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intelikeychillien_ sure.11:45
chillien_n111:45
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chillien_are u getting the file because u never accept?11:46
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intelikeyi don't see any offer.11:46
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user_hello11:46
chillien_Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!11:46
chillien_great...11:46
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^Odd^anyone here a hardware geek? and good with ubuntu? i have a question11:46
user_hello11:46
chillien_hello...lol11:47
chillien_intelikely, msn?11:47
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intelikeybitchx11:47
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intelikey!ask11:47
user_yeah11:48
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jeddy3^Odd^, shoot11:48
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chillien_  /CRY!11:49
chillien_Why do I have to regg to send private msgs11:49
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intelikeywb11:50
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^Odd^jeddy3, ok my problem started when i ran a dmesg and discoverd that with my last few recent installs that the agp bus was not functioning as it should all support for 3d was busted and the "vesa" drivers did not work....then i messed with the bios reinstalled ubuntu and discoverd that now the agp bus was detected and does kinda seem to be working but it seems that something is still lagging the hell outta it.....if you cover glx gears11:51
^Odd^ with something like another app windows my fps is normal but if the gears are showing then >.< any ideas?11:51
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^Odd^whoa sorry for long post >.<11:51
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^Odd^diden't mean to flood11:51
bimberichillien_: you can pastebin a screenshot to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:51
intelikey-:- DCC Priveleged port attempt [0]  <--- Chillien ahh that wont work.11:52
Chilliengod..11:52
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Chillienwhy is everything so complicated?11:52
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obI have a problem running dapper. i can't figure out if it's a dapper config-error or xorg error. I run dualhead setup, and when the monitors goes into standby-mode, they just blank. And I need to restart my computer holding the powerbutton for 5 secs.11:52
^Odd^Chillien, are you new to ubuntu and a previous windoze user11:52
^Odd^?11:52
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intelikeybecause you have never seen a computer before.11:52
skypagreetings11:52
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jeddy3^Odd^, what kind of card do you have, and are you sure dri is enabled?11:53
Chillienprevious Windows user11:53
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Chillienhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i1096711:53
JackAcehi11:53
^Odd^jeddy3, i have a VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR]  (rev b2)11:54
^Odd^....now i know it dosen't seem like much but in windoze it kicks arse in games and it used to in ubuntu till something changed.11:54
intelikeywell actually that is close to true.   every thing you learned in windows it copy righted patened and restricted.   (thank you M$)  so every thing you learned there is useless here.   it is as if you have never seen a computer before.11:54
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Chillienomg... now thats cool to hear11:55
^Odd^yea but once you get used to it it rocks and you might even start to hate windoze11:55
Chillienbut any idea on the screenshot?11:55
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skypaguys, what do I have to do to get usplash showing apart from installing the package?11:55
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^Odd^jeddy3 you get that?11:55
JackAceI'm having a NAT problem: I'm behing ISP NAT, how do I use Socat to bypass it, say to get some incoming connections on BitTorrennt?  tried some commands but it didnt work....11:56
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variantChillien: that shows that you have a windows ntfs partition on /dev/hdd1 however we formated it as reiserfs so that is no longer true11:56
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ChillienSo I should just give up and become a salve for win again?11:56
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^Odd^NO!11:56
jeddy3^Odd^, sorry, i'm no good at nvidia so i don't know if i can help...users tend to have _less_ problem with nvidia though =)11:56
^Odd^yea iknow XD11:56
ChillienWell I have now spent about 10 hours just to mount a fucking drive11:56
JackAceBTW, if there is a dedicated Socat channel I will ask there (if there is, it's not called #socat anyway)11:56
fishirc://irc.QcNet.org/warezfrancais11:57
fishoopx11:57
fish*s11:57
variantChillien: which disk are you trying to mount hdd1 or hda1?11:57
Buffy_BITCHhagga11:57
jeddy3^Odd^, you have installed and confirmed drivers and everythings like that?11:57
variantChillien: from that screenshot its not clear which one your trying to mount11:57
ChillienI dunno... I have one 80GB which ubuntu installed itself on, then I have a 250GB one which I have no idea what to do with11:57
^Odd^Chillien, you need to have patience man.....i am haveing a mystry agp buss issue but as i take my time and go over my work mistakes become clear and things start working as they should ^_^11:57
variantChillien: if you had done what i said int he first place this wouldnt be happening11:57
ChillienI did what people said11:58
^Odd^jeddy3 yes i have the nvidia-glx drivers and have made sure that the changes to xorg.conf have been made11:58
variantChillien: type sudo fdisk -l11:58
variantthat will tell you what disk is what partition etc11:58
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jeddy3^Odd^, and "glxinfo | grep -i opengl" says?11:59
^Odd^Chillien, that may be true but there are lots of factors involved also be aware that linux is syntax sencitive11:59
jeddy3vendor string?11:59
ChillienI am just gonna post screenshot from now on11:59
^Odd^OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation11:59
^Odd^OpenGL renderer string: GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!11:59
^Odd^OpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 76.6711:59
^Odd^damnit11:59
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Chillienhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i1096812:00
^Odd^*sigh* sorry guys been up for 24hrs+ trying to fix this issue with my agp12:00
sethkvariant, he needs sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd12:00
sethkvariant, if we are still taking about hdd12:00
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variantsethk: he doesnt know which disk he is talking about12:00
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jeddy3^Odd^, should work fine, afaik, but then again i don't have a nvidia card12:01
^Odd^jeddy3, the opengl extensions list is not showing anything12:01
sethkvariant, well, ok ....  :)12:01
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jeddy3^Odd^, don't think they need to12:01
^Odd^OpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 76.6712:01
^Odd^OpenGL extensions:12:01
^Odd^shane@FoamY:~$12:01
^Odd^see nothing there12:01
ChillienI just want to mount the damn 250gb and use as storage...TT12:01
sethk^Odd^, is that text from /var/log/Xorg.0.log?12:02
^Odd^Chillien, calm down man we will get it worked out12:02
^Odd^no that is from a command12:02
variantChillien: sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt12:02
jeddy3^Odd^, no, but it's cut with grep...if you look at whole glxinfo output it's there12:02
variantChillien: put what you want to store in /mnt12:02
^Odd^sethk, glxinfo | grep -i opengl12:02
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Chillienat least the support here is super compared to others where u actually pay12:02
variantChillien: add it to fstab with "users" option to allow access from non root users12:02
intelikeyChillien from what the screen shot looks like to me.  you also messed the partition type on /dev/hda1  to 82 rather than 83  it's calling it swap now.  mounted on /    that's an issue.     now before i confues you any more, let sethk or who ever it is helping you finish helping.12:03
Chilliendo I need to add anything to the command:sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt12:03
JackAcehe he.. I got my mother to switch to Linux, at the age of 65. she tried Ubuntu and toght it wasnt so diffiult to use after all, and she is feels good about not having to give any money to the richest man on earth, feels good to use a computer without supporting monopolystic big corps and stuff like that. You dont hear many 70 year old ladies talking like that (not many of them using computers in the first place)12:03
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sethk^Odd^, the place to look is /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  you will see the modules load, or you will see a message telling you why it didn't load12:03
JackAcebut anyway12:03
variantChillien: no12:03
JackAceI was here to ask about Socat12:03
jeddy3JackAce, haha nice =)12:03
variantChillien: that will mount it so taht only root can write to that disk.12:03
sethkChillien, that will work.  /mnt/something is better; but for now it is ok12:04
^Odd^sethk thank you12:04
variantChillien: if you want your user account to be able to do it then you should add the partition to /etc/fstab12:04
JackAceAnyone knows how to get incoming connections despite ISP NAT?12:04
Chillienhmm, so I did sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt it thought for a while and then I could eneter a new command12:04
variantChillien: just copy one of the existing lines making sure that you have auto,rw,users in the options line12:04
variantChillien: thats it mounted12:04
variantChillien: you can now add files to /mnt (only as root though)12:04
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Chillienafter that, I write :/mnt/stuff?12:05
jeddy3JackAce, but often it seems that people with less computer experience tend to do great with linux...as opposed to those with windows habits12:05
JackAcewoah I typed mom's age wrong -twice! that's 67 (like if someone cares, ok...)12:05
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ChillienI dont want to continue after typing in  sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt   cause I just know I will do something wrong12:06
intelikeyJackAce dito that.  put my mother on mdk 10   cause i got tired of fixing her M$ crap all the time.   that was a year ago when she turned 64  i'v had to take the printer off pause is the only thing she has called me for sense.12:06
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JackAcejeddy3 I used windows myself for years, I started thinking about linux like 2-3 years ago but I actually did the switch only last november (and it feels like 2 -3 years too late)12:07
YukiCussjeddy3, you're absolutely right.12:07
intelikeyjeddy3 prezactly.    thinking you know about windows makes you unable to function on linux....12:07
YukiCussjeddy3, you may like to read this, just for fun: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm12:07
Chillienvariant I dont want to continue after typing in  sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt   cause I just know I will do something wrong12:07
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JackAceone of the biggest problems about linux is that people who never tried or even seen it, are "sure" it difficult to use and for-geeks-only.12:07
variantChillien: that just means that the partition has been mounted to /mnt12:08
variantChillien: and anything you put in /mnt will be stored on that disk12:08
Chillienok...12:08
YukiCussJackAce, the trick is to get someone with no experience with computers at all; hopefully they won't know the difference between Linux or Windows, and accept everything as `given' :12:08
Chillienbut thats a silly name?12:08
YukiCuss:)*12:08
variantChillien: type mount on its own to tell you what is mounted where and with what options12:08
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variantChillien: whats silly?12:09
intelikeybe back in a bit.12:09
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ChillienIt is inside a fodler called mnt?12:09
pedrocrhow do I correctly mount a CD with a iso8859-1 encoding for filenames?12:09
variantChillien: you can mount anything anywhere so its entirely up to you what its called and where it is12:09
variantChillien: kinda yeah12:09
Chillienlol, how cofusing12:09
variantpedrocr: mount /dev/cdrom12:09
jeddy3JackAce, yeah me to...but apart from us who knows computers GOOD, and those who have little experience...the ones who gets problems is the ones that have/think they have some experience...those are the ones who whine about word and photoshop and whatnot :P12:09
variantpedrocr: the mount command will do what is reuired12:10
Chillienbut I cant find  the fodler /mnt12:10
jeddy3JackAce, if i'm making any sense =)12:10
variantChillien: ls /mnt12:10
JackAcebad pubblicity. I do promote Ubuntu as a very good first distro, and even offer to install and configure it (on dual boot if requested) "completely free", still no one  inrested so far12:10
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variantChillien: or ls /12:10
Chilliennothing happened12:10
variantChillien: remember that "/" is right at the top so /mnt is the next down12:10
JackAcejeddy3 I get it12:10
pedrocrvariant: it's not working12:10
variantChillien: thats because its empty12:10
variantpedrocr: what errror?12:10
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pedrocrvariant: no, error, just broken filenames12:10
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variantpedrocr: in what way broken?12:11
jeddy3JackAce, it's always fun to here experiences like that, anyway =)12:11
pedrocrvariant: in nautilus they appear with ?? in place of accented characters and (Invalid Encoding) at the end12:11
JackAceit "is" actually like that. I'kinda "advanched user" andf have screwed up my computer way more times than the average cant-do-nothing user12:11
Chillien  omg, but if I cant find or browse it how the hell would I store stuff in it?12:11
pedrocrvariant: in the shell it's just the ??12:11
variantpedrocr: if they have a lot of "?" in them its because you dont have support for those characters12:11
ChillienI found it, but it has to be that name, and is it still   Windows NTFS?12:12
jeddy3JackAce, thats what makes you learn :)12:12
JackAcejeddy3 you know anything about how to get past ISP NAT?12:12
sethkJackAce, really?  I messed up on a first installation, after that I chose expert mode and I've had not a single error over a substantial period of time.12:12
variantChillien: in nautilus go up untill you come to / then click on /mnt12:12
ibooijhi, is anybody here running PostgreSQL server 8.1 on their Ubuntu dapper machine?12:12
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pedrocrvariant: no, that's not it, they're just latin1 characters12:12
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pittiibooij: yes, me, I'm the psql dude for Debian and Ubuntu :)12:12
variantpedrocr: trust me it is.. nautilus is lacking support in your case12:12
JackAcejeddy3 yes. I learned virtually everything I know about computer by screwing up stupp12:12
sethkJackAce, I do, but why do you want to get past it?12:13
ibooijI'm having trouble installing. package postgresql-common is giving preconfigure errors..12:13
jeddy3JackAce, sorry no, i have the fredom to configure my own firewall/NAT12:13
pedrocrvariant: I can name filenames with the characters that are not there12:13
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ChillienVariant, so it says 250GB free space, but how do I know that its not Windows NTFS?12:13
pittiibooij: yep, I fixed that this morning12:13
variantChillien: right click and select properties12:13
pittiibooij: try 48ubuntu312:13
Chillienvariant and there is a hdd1 on / which I cant access bugging the shit out of me12:13
pedrocrvariant: so how can that be?12:13
variantChillien: or type mount on the command line and it will list /dev/hdd1 /mnt type etc12:13
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variantChillien: thats just a folder12:14
ibooijpitti: I'll have a look at what version I'm trying to instaal12:14
odathow do i make a script?12:14
variantChillien: that you have created12:14
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variantChillien: you can delete it12:14
ChillienVariant there is nothing in mnt properties12:14
JackAcejeddy3 to get incoming connections is the "official" answer, like getting faster BitTorrent and stuff, but the "real" reason is....12:14
variantChillien: or its the way nautilus is trying to make things easy for you but only confusing you instead12:14
ibooijpitti: I see it. My mirror has 48ubuntu212:14
variantChillien: type mount on the cmmand line12:14
pedrocrvariant: got it to work, passing iocharset=utf8 in the comand line12:14
Chillienok...12:14
variantpedrocr: cool12:14
oskudeodat, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/12:15
pittiibooij: yep; dapper version number has recently been changed from 6.04 to 6.06, and p-common stumbled over that (it still expected 6.04)12:15
ChillienInside the terminal?12:15
pittiibooij: I made that more robust for future changes, too12:15
Chillienvariant Type mount in the terminal?12:15
JackAcejeddy3 the real reason is that my ISP is a real a***ole; they wont let me port forward: to get incoming connections I have to send a request *and they charge* 4 euros a day (!) or 50 euro-cents an hour (!!) for being accessible from the ouside12:16
variantChillien: yes12:16
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jeddy3JackAce, eh?, man that sucks12:16
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Chillienvariant /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)12:16
ibooijpitti: ok, that figures. Thanks for the help, I appreciate it!12:16
Hirvinen_JackAce: In which country?12:17
JackAcejeddy3, so the reason is, that I think they shouldnt be doing that, and I want to be able to get at least a couple of symbolic incomung connections, just to say "I did it, you bastard"12:17
oskudeJackAce, OMG12:17
Chillienvaraint /dev/hdd1 on /mnt type reiserfs (rw)12:17
JackAceoskude OMG?12:17
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variantChillien: which one is it?12:18
jeddy3JackAce, hehe, sounds like a good statement =)...but i don't know ho to help you there...12:18
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Chillienvariant /dev/hdd1 on /mnt type reiserfs (rw)12:18
Chillien that one12:18
variantChillien: oh never mind.. yeah12:18
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variantChillien: cool.. everything is fine then12:18
pnooksterhiya, i'm trying to compile some C - I keep getting an error that I'm missing /usr/bin/ld12:18
pnooksterbut i've installed binutils12:18
Chillienbut, Cant I have the discs as  C and D bla bla12:18
JackAcejeddy3 I was thinking about Socat. I tried a couple of lines but it didnt really worked (I tested using Azureus)12:18
Chillienvariant that has fun names etc12:19
pnooksterwhat package am I missing that has ld in it?12:19
variantChillien: no, this is not windows.. you can name them whatever you want12:19
Chillienvariant and what about the annyoing hdd1 which is bugging the shit out of me12:19
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JackAcejeddy3 "test using Azureus, I mean I did run Azureus to see if I could get some incoming connections using Socat. Didnt work12:19
variantChillien: my friend has disks named big_momma etc12:19
variantChillien: where is that ?12:19
Chillienvariant under computer:///12:20
variantChillien: thats just nautilus being extreemly gay12:20
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Chillienvariant how do I delete it?12:20
variantChillien: dunno.. its probably a config option12:20
variantChillien: i hate nautilus12:20
Chillienvariant fuck it! how stupid, I hate having folders and stuff I cant modify OR delete12:21
Chillien  /cry12:21
variantChillien: they are really trying to hide the way things really work from users in favour of rubbish like computer:///// which doesnt actualy mean anything or relate to any part of your system. its just confusing12:21
pnookstervarient: what do you think of rox?12:21
pnooksterer..variant. sorry. been up way too long :D12:22
jeddy3JackAce, yeah i got that...but sorry, i have no experiences of ISP nat/portforwarding12:22
Chillienvariant but u have no idea how to get ridd of it?12:22
variantpnookster: its ok, not used it for a couple of years though.. has it improved?12:22
pnooksteri dunno.12:22
pnooksterhaha.12:22
variantChillien: no.. im on a windows box at work so i cant check for you12:22
pnooksteri'm trying to set up fluxbox + fluxspace12:22
variantpnookster: not a bad idea12:22
pnooksterto try it out12:22
Chillienvariant, I need to reboot, cya12:22
variantChillien: later12:22
JackAceI have gotten Gnome to look better following a HowTo on ubuntuforum.org (dont have the exact URL) title was: stealing kde's eye candy. really worth it12:22
pnooksteri've used fluxbox a bit, but never with fluxspace/rox12:22
Chillienvariant thanks for the help preciate it12:23
variantim going for my break12:23
variantlater all12:23
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JackAcejeddy3 no problem. maybe you have some idea about a better channel to ask such a quesion? something like less crowded, more port-forward-oriented (?) something like that...12:23
jeddy3JackAce, no idea :/12:24
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JackAceok12:24
JackAcehmmm+12:24
ic56pnookster: AFAIK, ld should be in binutils.  The package description says so.  Maybe something went wrong during the binutils install?12:25
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pnooksteryou'd think it would be, considering the desc of the package12:25
pnooksteri found it though, it's in libc612:25
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JackAceyeah there was another question12:26
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Chillienhaehaeh, variant after a reboot I dont have the space inside the folder anymore12:26
pnookstergah. apparently fluxspace needs x11, not x.org12:26
pnooksterlaame12:26
ic56pnookster: what's the exact path?12:26
Chillienomg, how retarded, I give up12:26
pnookster /usr/bin/ld12:27
JackAceabout a "make" error. Now I have to re-run "make" so I can post the exact output line12:27
pnooksterbut like i said, i found it12:27
patrick52222im having problems with java  does any one no how to get java working other than the restricted format page12:27
pnookster/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory12:27
ic56pnookster: where did you find it?12:27
pnooksterlibc6-dev12:27
ic56pnookster: where did you find it?  what *path*?12:28
oskude!build-essential12:28
ubotusomebody said build-essential was a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info12:28
pnooksterOh.12:28
ChillienWhen a opearting system can make u cry, its bad12:28
pnooksterIt's where it's supposed to be now, i just didn't know the package it was in.12:28
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sethkpnookster, it works with both of them12:28
marik_how do i change the dhcp timeout ?12:28
AisiChillien: getting support over IRC can make one weep. giving can be just as hard :S12:28
pnooksterhmm12:28
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marik_i dont like having to wait so long while booting12:29
ChillienWell, I cant see a better way. I dont know anyone that uses linux and lives nearby12:29
pnooksterim getting an error on /.config saying it can't find X, though12:29
Chillienbut I must say its not realy user friendly, lol12:29
patrick52222how do i install java for stuff like limewire12:29
JackAceAnybody knows what package I need to install to be able to run the command "gmake"? (I installed something called "gmake, still that command doesnt work, and yess the directory is in the path)12:30
patrick52222wat gmake] 12:30
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marik_anyone know how to change the default timeout time for dhcp in the init scripts?12:31
ChillienWindows here I come, I need a media drive and to play CS. I cant take all this frustration12:31
pnooksterbrb12:31
AisiChillien: nothing is. giving support for any system over IRC usually end up with three or for people giving different instructions, and the person on the receiving side often ends up with a half done mess. best to start as you did, then pick the most helpful person and take it to another more private channel. <finishes being longwinded>12:31
JackAceI ask that about gmake because the installing instructions for a packege called cheops-ng specifically say to run gmake after ./configure12:31
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Chillienwell, now the whole syste mis messed up12:31
patrick52222by cs you mean counter strike yeh12:31
Chillienyes12:31
pnookstersorry, whoever queried me - forgot i couldnt change to queries in xterm / irssi heh12:32
ChillienI tried installing wine on my own last night, lol it was a nightmare, I just deleted the folder in the end12:32
JackAcejeddy3 you know anything qabout gmake? (sorry I keep bugging you, that's because you are the only one who answers to me)12:32
patrick52222wat about Cedega12:32
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AisiChillien: hehe. wine isn't for beginners, no matter what people might tell you :p12:32
patrick52222chillien: have you tried Cedega12:33
AisiChillien: indeed a lot of things aren't :(12:33
ChillienThats what I hate about Linux12:33
patrick52222how do i install java for stuff like limewire12:33
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pnooksterbut yeah, sethk - fluxspace does work with x.org?12:33
Chillieneverything becomes harder to do, now why would I want that?12:33
Aisibest to start with small expectations... say, using it for messing about with for a while12:33
oskudeJackAce, i have never heard about "gmake" and "apt-cache search gmake" dont find it, so maybe its a script that came with the package you got...12:34
sfarisChillien, its not harder :)12:34
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skypacrw-rw----  1 root video 81, 0 2006-03-28 04:59 /dev/video012:34
pnooksternot harder.. just different :D12:34
skypaa user which is in the group video should have access to that, shouldn't he?12:34
JackAceoskude, no it did not12:34
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Chillienit is, u have go through all these commandoes and shit just to run or install a program. When in Win u just double click an icon12:34
Aisiit is harder. especially because so many people don't know how to use it, and less can teach it12:34
oskudeChillien, whats hard on synaptic ?12:35
pnookstermm, for everyday tasks, not including installing and configuring software, i'd say ubuntu is a lot easier than windows12:35
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pnooksterat least, if you don't want to use wireless g.. eheh12:35
sfarisonce you LEARN its not hard12:35
oskudejust use "linux friendly" hardware...12:35
Khamaelis pocketpc`s (winCE) supported in ubuntu?12:35
JackAceand the package is not really a package, sorry, I typed wrong. I was actually talking about a souce code that needed to compile. (cheops-ng) there is a pre-compiled cheops package in repositories,but that's not -ng (new generation)12:35
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ic56skypa: yes, a user in group video should have read and write access.12:36
oskudeKhamael, no, but there are other linux pocket pc distros, try google12:36
JackAce(previous msg was to oskude)12:36
pnooksteroskude: heh, unfortunately i got my linksys g card before I tried out ubuntu. ndiswrapper was fun to try and set up before it was in apt, lemme tell ya.....12:36
ChillienI dont have synaptic or wahtever12:36
sfarisChillien: System -> ADministration -> synaptics12:36
ChillienI had to use automatix to easily install stuff I needed12:36
oskude!automatix12:36
ubotuhmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.12:36
Khamaeloskude: don`t want linux on my pocketpc, I want to sync documents and mail12:36
Chillienwell, there is nothing I need in Synaptic12:36
sfariserr?12:37
oskudeKhamael, hmm, dunno. maybe there are program to do that...12:37
skypaic56, ty12:37
matt_hello12:37
sfarisalmost everything you need is actually in Synaptic :)12:37
JackAceanyway, I ran the "classic" make and make install and it look like itr worked (I did get error yesterday, I must have installed some missing package in the meantime... but I dont know what package) OK, going to try if it works...12:37
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bobbyd_hi12:37
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bobbyd_what's the best way to get a 2.16.15 kernel on breezy?12:38
matt_anyone answer a question about Xgl?12:38
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bobbyd_matt: #ubuntu-xgl12:38
oskude!xgl12:38
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/12:38
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heatxsinkmatt_:  I think there's a dedicated Xgl ubuntu channel for that12:38
skypabobby, google for the 2.6.15 ubuntu dapper sources and build it yourself12:38
heatxsinkbobby:  :-) thanks12:38
matt_yeah nobody talking there12:38
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JackAceyes it works. I must have installed the missing package and didnt even know...12:39
Chilliensfaris  Synaptic doesnt have  Wine or cedega installs, only noob apps12:39
bobbyd_skypa: can't I just pin that package and grab the dapper one somehow?12:39
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skypanah, iirc there are a _lot_ unmet deps12:39
skypa+of12:39
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oskudeChillien, wine is not needed in linux... its just for compability...12:40
patrick52222can some one help me on this error12:40
oskude!wine12:40
bobbyd_skypa: ok ta12:40
patrick52222http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1096912:40
Killgoreits helpful12:40
oskudeChillien, and wine IS in ubuntu repos...12:40
Chillienrepos?12:41
oskude!repos12:41
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:41
Killgorehey everyone are there drivers for old non-ati/nvida video cards?12:41
Chillienoskude I said cedega or whatever the name was12:41
patrick52222can some one help me on this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10969, its a java installing problem12:41
bobbyd_Killgore unfortunatly, yes :)12:41
bobbyd_Killgore most of them will just work12:42
Killgorebobbyd: i need them. I think12:42
oskudepatrick52222, you need "multiverse" for "java-package" (says my apt-cache)12:42
bobbyd_Killgore what's your card?12:42
Killgorepatrick52222: you dont have th12:42
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Killgorebobbyd: SiS Trident Blade 3D12:42
intelikeyi back12:42
vladuz976is anybody here operating an ipod nano successfully on ubuntu?12:42
bobbyd_Killgore and it doesn't work?12:42
matt_nobody in the Xgl channel.. anyone here with experience?12:42
oskudeChillien, and wine.... cedega has copyrights for inluding, so you have to compile it yourslef from cvs, or buy it...12:42
Killgorebobbyd_: im trying to get higher resolutions12:43
ChillienWell, I dunno what type of    WINE TO USE since there are 20 different things I can check for download12:43
patrick52222killgore: i dont have wat?12:43
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Killgorepatrick52222: multiverse and universe repositories12:43
Killgore!repo12:43
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Killgore12:43
oskudeChillien, apt-cache show wine12:43
Killgore!repositories12:43
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:43
intelikeyrepos   ^12:43
Killgorepatrick52222: use that first link and follow the guide12:43
patrick52222i have enable multi and universe from  the link on the restricted format page12:44
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oskudepatrick52222, then you need to do "sudo apt-get update" to get the list of new things...12:44
intelikeypatrick52222 update and then install12:44
oskudepatrick52222, and then install normally12:44
ChillienI tried to follow the HOW TO tut but I didnt get it, I managed to open steam install but after that...12:44
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vladuz976anybody here using gtkpod successfully? please let me know how12:45
ubushinevladuz976, depends what you mean by 'successfully'?12:45
patrick52222nope still keep getting same error12:45
Killgoretried it but it was too slow12:45
Killgoreafter sudo apt-get update?12:45
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vladuz976ubushine: i can't write to the ipod, i get permission denied12:46
vladuz976don't know what else to try12:46
patrick52222yeh after sudo apt-get update12:46
_jasonpatrick52222: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?12:46
ubushinevladuz976, that's a mounting problem, not gtkpod probelm12:46
ChillienU need to be a magician to get  ubuntu to work...lol12:46
vladuz976ubushine: true, but still i only have it using gtkpod, and only with ipod, so i am looking for a solution12:46
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patrick52222_jason: it say permision denied how do i get in12:47
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_jasonpatrick52222: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:47
Killgoresudo12:47
Killgorewell12:47
pnooksteror nano12:47
Killgorei guess not becuase he only has to read it12:47
pnookster<3 nano for a quick edit12:47
Chillienafter installing  Wine, where do I find it?12:47
ubushinevladuz976, after you solve your mounting problem, you may want to try yamipod: http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/home/12:47
bobbyd_Killgore: your problem will be your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/12:47
bobbyd_Killgore: find the cirect hsync and vsync params for your monitor12:48
bobbyd_Killgore: and put them in there12:48
patrick52222_jason: here ya go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1097012:48
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Killgorebobbyd_:  yes ive looked there and added in new resolutions but X wont let me go over 1024/76812:48
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bobbyd_Killgore: have you set up your monitor correctly?12:48
Killgorebobbyd_:  it already has values in there. Could they be wrong?12:48
bobbyd_Killgore: what does the X log say12:48
_jasonpatrick52222: you have only enabled multiverse for backports.  You don't have breezy multiverse.  Do you want ot fix this using synaptic or by editing the file directly?12:48
vladuz976ubushine: it actually mounts fine12:49
bobbyd_Killgore: yes definitely, google for your monitor make and model and "hsync"12:49
AisiChillien: join me in #aisi12:49
Killgorebobbyd_: thanks ill try that12:49
patrick52222_jason: synaptic12:49
ubushinevladuz976, oh? you can write to it with nautalis or from terminal?12:49
_jasonubotu: tell patrick52222 about repos12:49
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intelikeymonitorworld.com12:49
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_jasonpatrick52222: read the wiki page carefully.  It may help to press ctrl+f, type multiverse, and then read every sentence that contains the word multiverse12:50
oskudeintelikey, nice site, thnx :)12:50
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intelikeyoskude helps to know where to look.12:50
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intelikeygoogle dont like me12:51
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Killgorewow my monitor is old -> December 199612:52
X3N_How would one go about moving my ubuntu installation to another hard disk ?12:52
pnooksteri dont WANT to know how old my monitor is eheh12:52
vladuz976ubushine: no actually  not even that way12:52
pnooksterviewsonic 19" ... who knows12:52
vladuz976ubushine: any idea how i can change that12:52
pnooksterall i know is that it's going bad ;-; haha12:52
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ubushinevladuz976, so it's not mounting properly is it?12:52
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intelikeyKillgore it may not do more than 1024 then12:52
patrick52222_jason: cheers it now doin the install thanks for ya help12:52
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vladuz976ubushine: correct, something wrong iwth permisssions12:52
_jasonpatrick52222: np12:53
ubushinevladuz976, what format does the ipod have?12:53
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vladuz976ubushine: vfat12:53
ubushinevladuz976, how are you mounting it?12:53
patrick52222_jason: is there away to check it java installed12:53
Killgoreintelikey: no ive gone up to 1280x1024 in windows12:53
_jasonpatrick52222: 'java -version'12:53
vladuz976ubushine: i mean i mount it to /mnt/ipod, root owns /mnt12:53
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Healot""auto"" is a better option12:53
ubushinevladuz976, and again. how are you mounting it?12:54
intelikeyKillgore windows lies to you also.....12:54
vladuz976ubushine: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/ipod /mnt/ipod12:54
Killgoreintelikey: but it makes things smaller ;) unlike linux12:54
vladuz976ubushine: /dev/ipod is actually /dev/sda212:54
pnookstermy poor little 6gb hard drive.. sigh12:54
pnooksterits going to die with all the development headers i'm installing xD i think im up to 60mb of these guys so far12:55
intelikeyKillgore yeah.   fonts size may help you there.12:55
marik_no one knows how to change the timeout of dhcp during the boot process?12:55
marik_dhcpcd*12:55
vladuz976ubushine: i put /dev/ipod  /mnt/ipod  vfat  sync,nodev,nosuid,user,rw,noauto 0 012:55
pnookstersorry, no clue... i usually just ctrl-c it if i know it's not gonna be successful12:55
vladuz976ubushine: in my fstab and mount with sudo mount /mnt/ipod12:55
intelikeymarik_ i would think that you would need to get into the init scripts for that.  but there maybe a way in network/12:56
marik_intelikey, all i need to do is append -t 15 to the dhcpcd command..12:57
ubushineyou have /dev/ipod /mnt/ipod in your fstab file?12:57
vladuz976ubushine: yes12:57
pnooksterYAY fluxspace successfully compiled12:57
pnooksteri feel like i need a cig after that12:57
pnooksterhaha12:57
intelikeymarik_ i don't run init.d/network at boot but that might be the place.    edit with caution.12:57
ubushinevladuz976, what's /dev/ipod? is there such a thing? isn't it /dev/sdax?12:58
patrick52222how do i make the terminal go to desktop is it like cd ~/Desktop12:58
pnookster~/.Desktop i do believe12:58
intelikeyyep12:58
patrick52222ok12:58
BlueHeronjust ~/Desktop12:58
vladuz976ubushine: it's actually /dev/sda2 but i wanna reserver those for the digicam,  i am using udev to create /dev/ipod12:58
pnooksterah12:58
pnooksteri dont like sticking things on my desktop, so i hardly ever drop to terminal there .. .sry for the bad info ;)12:58
ubushinevladuz976, ah.12:59
patrick52222~/Desktop dont work12:59
vladuz976ubushine: i tried with /dev/sda2 before but same problem12:59
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intelikeyi don't have a desktop  so i never have that problem12:59
pnooksterhaha12:59
pnooksterthe only thing i like about having a desktop is having my removable drives show up there12:59
patrick52222cd ~/Desktop   did12:59
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ubushinevladuz976, have you tried vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 instead of all the other options you give in fstab?12:59
vladuz976ubushine: no01:00
intelikeypatrick52222 use   ls -A       it will show you the name.01:00
ubushinevladuz976, that's all i have and it writes no problem01:00
vladuz976ubushine: you using ipod ?01:00
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ubushinevladuz976, yup. formated with hfs first then vfat. both worked about the same01:00
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sungodhow use my ppc at ubuntu01:00
Killgoredoes the vsync and hsync values change with whatever graphics card is being used?01:01
vladuz976ubushine: what's the difference?01:01
Killgorefor example a better graphics card can output higher values?01:01
intelikeyKillgore no   they are monitor specific01:01
Killgorebecause im getting a lot of different values for v and hsync from different sites01:01
BlueHeronuhh uhh uhh01:01
BlueHeronback up chump!01:01
vladuz976how can i get the new fstab working without reboot?01:01
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Killgoreintelikey: should i go with the ones on the Dell website then?01:02
ubushinevladuz976, hfs is Mac specific and the other is for windows. in case i want to use a Mac to transfer files, i wanted to play with it.01:02
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intelikeyif it lists your monitor, yes Killgore01:02
Killgorek01:02
Killgorevladuz976: sudo umount -a01:02
Killgorethen sudo mount -a01:02
vladuz976ubushine: u know how i can get the edited fstab working01:02
ubushinevladuz976, i've never played with udev though. i just usually let ubuntu take care of mounting it with /dev/sdax01:02
ubushinevladuz976, what do you mean?01:03
vladuz976says device busy01:03
vladuz976for umount -a01:03
Killgorestop busying it then ;)01:03
Killgoredo you have any programs open that are using it?01:03
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vladuz976not the ipod01:03
intelikeyKillgore how you "stop busying" /    ?01:03
ubushinevladuz976, get out of the directory?01:03
variantvladuz976: what have you added to the fstab?01:04
Killgoreintelikey: dunno :P01:04
vladuz976variant: /dev/ipod /mnt/ipod ....01:04
variantvladuz976: so, the new fstab takes effect the instant you save it01:04
vladuz976oh cool01:04
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pnooksteroh FUDGE01:05
sfarisChillien: and you are not a noob then?01:05
Khamaelcan I get creative zen touch to appear in rhythmbox?01:05
variantvladuz976: mount /mnt/ipod should now mount your ipod on /mnt/ipod01:05
pnooksterit wasjust the ./configure that worked.01:05
Chillien?01:05
Chilliensfaris ?01:05
vladuz976variant: ok i'll try01:05
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ubushinevladuz976, try the vfat options i gave you and make your /mnt/ipod directory world readable/writeable and try again01:05
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Chilliensfaris I figured I will give ubuntu up and install Win XP01:05
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theinepnookster: what error message does make give?01:06
sfarisyou said synaptics was for noob apps :)01:06
pnooksterMenu.cc:496: error: no matching function for call to 'FbTk::FbPixmap::FbPixmap(FbTk::FbPixmap)'01:06
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Killgoremy friend said make isnt on ubuntu01:06
vladuz976ubushine: i can write to the dir as user now01:06
Killgoreand i tend to belive him01:06
_jasonKillgore: just install build-essential01:06
theinepnookster: hmmm, no idea...01:06
vladuz976ubushine: i don't know how to make it world readalbe01:06
intelikeyKillgore it isn't by default.  you have to install it.01:06
ubushinevladuz976, it works?01:07
theineKillgore: your friend is wrong01:07
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Killgore_jason: that would be a better idea than just installing gcc right?01:07
_jasonKillgore: yep01:07
intelikeytheine no01:07
pnooksteryeah01:07
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theineintelikey: what?01:07
pnooksteryou can't build executables with just gcc01:07
TokaHi everybody01:07
intelikey-bash: make: command not found01:07
TokaAnyone care to do a little bit of noob hand holding?01:07
pnooksteri learned that the hard way :D01:07
theineintelikey: sudo apt-get install make01:07
intelikeytheine unless you install it it isn't there.01:07
theineintelikey: so?01:07
sfarisChillien, ubuntu/linux might seem a bit harder, but all it takes is some learning and you will do fine.. you cant know everything from start, you need experience.. How long have you tried linux/ubuntu?01:08
Killgorewhile where on the subject of monitors/graphics cards what happens if i put a new one in? will ubuntu auto-detect it?01:08
ubushineToka, just ask01:08
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intelikeyand theine don't install make install build-essential01:08
manut/j #ndiswrapper01:08
vladuz976ubushine: it works!!!01:08
theineintelikey: say again?01:08
vladuz976thanks01:08
manutuups01:08
ubushinevladuz976, sweet.01:08
ubushinevladuz976, what changes did you make?01:08
Chilliensfaris I am going to use linux to write essays, chat, use Ventrilo and play a game called Counter Strike01:08
intelikeytheine don't install or tell others to install make install build-essential01:08
vladuz976ubushine: thanks a lot. i was trying to get it to work for a long time today01:09
theineintelikey: why not?01:09
intelikey!b-e01:09
ubotuI guess b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.01:09
vladuz976ubushine: the options in fstab01:09
sungod....................01:09
vladuz976ubushine: you told me01:09
Tokak ubushine01:09
ubushinevladuz976, cool. congrats. it's fun to play when things work01:09
theineintelikey: there is no package called "install" by the way...01:09
TokaI need to reinstall my drivers...well i think i need to01:09
vladuz976ubushine: you use yumipod?01:09
TokaMy display has defaulted back to 640X48001:09
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dealtgreetings01:09
sungod________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________01:09
Tokaand my xorg.conf looks like it did before the driver was installed01:09
ubushinevladuz976, i play with them both. yami and gtkpod01:10
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theineintelikey: hey! just give me a reason, ok?01:10
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theineintelikey: just saying "don't do it" is not a very strong argument01:10
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KillgoreToka: X doesnt like me either01:10
Tokalol01:10
TokaI didn't realise Ubuntu got personal01:11
theineintelikey: and "install make install build-essential" *doesn't* make sense01:11
Killgoreheheh01:11
Killgoreoh it does01:11
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ubushineToka, more info please. card type, drivers you used. what you did?01:11
Killgoretheine: tru dat01:11
pnooksterbbiab.. gonna try loading my session with fb :D01:11
intelikeybecause if you install make then try to compile something it will fail and you will have to install all the other crap.   b-e is a meta package that depends on all the things that you need to compile software.01:11
dealtim using ubuntu 5.10. tried installing gforge via grazian.gforge.org/debian source, but i apt says it cannot be installed01:11
intelikeytheine ^01:11
TokaThe NVIDIA installer wants me to kill X but I'm a bit scared if things don't go to plan it's nver gonna start again01:11
KillgoreToka: startx01:12
manuthello !01:12
dealtis this because the packages in grazian are for debian?01:12
ubushineToka, always back up xorg.conf!01:12
Tokaeh? It's that simple if things go pearshaped01:12
Tokak01:12
theineintelikey: ah! so you want me to recommend "sudo apt-get install build-essential" instead of "sudo apt-get install make", etc...?01:12
manutI'm trying to install a conceptronic c54rc pcmcia card in my laptop01:12
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TokaSo if things go pearshaped I'll get a CL01:12
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jmborrewenas!!01:12
KillgoreToka: yer and if its really screwed sudo dpkg-reconfigure -i xorg (or something like that)01:12
intelikeytheine don't install, or tell others to install; make.  install build-essential  <--- if punctuation is that important.01:13
theineintelikey: well that's what i *always* do01:13
ubushineToka, so!01:13
Tokaand then i can jus do startx01:13
manutI've tried both using the native driver and ndiswrapper too, but with any success01:13
KillgoreToka: CL ftw01:13
theineintelikey: i just wrote "sudo apt-get install make" to make a point that make is available on Ubuntu01:13
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manutapparently the card is simply never detected, and suspiciously the leds of the card are never on01:13
theineintelikey: if you want to compile stuff, you should *of course* install build-essential01:14
Killgoremanut: hardware problem?01:14
snowblinktheine, apt-cache search make may be more appropriate in that case01:14
TitanHow come frostwire always messes up on the files I download. Ever single file I download it tells me there is a corruption in the file and when it finishes and listen to the music it allways skips like a record with a scratch. Has anyone had this problem before?01:14
intelikeyglad you finnally got there theine :)01:14
Killgoreawww01:14
theinesnowblink: yeah, or apt-cache show make, or whatever, dood...01:14
KillgoreTitan: whats frostwire?01:15
theineintelikey: i have been `there' a long time ago01:15
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Killgore!frostwire01:15
intelikeyglad you finnally got there theine :)01:15
manutKillgore: in windows it works beautifully01:15
Killgorek01:15
theineintelikey: you just need to work on your english, man01:15
TitanKillgore: frostwire is a free version of what Limewire is.01:15
Killgoremanut: Hmmm01:15
theineintelikey: or grammar, or whatever01:15
KillgoreTitan: ubotu enlightened me ;)01:15
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intelikeyi do01:15
theineintelikey: it's really hard to make sense out of your sentences01:15
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Killgoremanut: on laptop right? i guess its a PCMCIA card then01:16
Healotmanut: giving up already?01:16
TitanWhat is ubotu? Is it like a bot that has automatic answers to certain questions?01:17
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_jasonubotu: tell Titan about yourself01:17
KillgoreCould frostwire have a similar option to Azures for fat32 on linux?01:17
Tokaok thanks guys - i think you've given me enough confidence to try and reinstall these drivers01:17
KillgoreToka: embrace the command line01:17
TokaI'll no doubt drop in again for your expertise :)01:17
Tokalol01:17
ubushineToka, best luck01:17
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TitanThat's cool01:17
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Killgoreyay!01:18
Tokathanks ubushine01:18
Healotmanut: try to output "lsusb" and "lspci" for me, maybe I can help :)01:18
Tokalater all01:18
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HaRDaWaYhi all!!01:18
KillgoreHealot: is he using a PCMCIA card or a usb card01:18
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HealotPC card01:18
giany911guys can u tell me some good bt client?01:19
KillgoreHealot: maybe the pc card service has been disabled or is not running01:19
Healotconceptronic c54rc pcmcia card01:19
intelikeycard and socket services ?01:19
Healotthe original Bittorrent is more than enough01:19
Talonei, whats a good software for editing videos???01:19
jeddy3giany911, i use latest official01:19
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JuICehi01:19
Healotmaybe... he disabled it?01:19
manutHealot:01:19
HaRDaWaYmm i have a question...can you help me please? when i try to run some xmms display from gdesklets its return me this message: control for this display not found..(some display as xmms-corner control)..any idea?01:19
Killgoregiany911: there are hundreds ill give you a link to the common ones01:19
manutlspci | tail -n101:19
manut0000:03:00.0 Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 030201:19
giany911ok ty01:19
manutit's a pcmcia01:20
intelikeywhat is modprobe cs-core   ?01:20
Healotokay.... manut stick with... it's gonna get completed... after this01:20
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Healotconceptronic c54rc pcmcia card01:20
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Talonis Avidemux good?01:20
manutHealot: ok I'll wait :)01:20
intelikeyerr i don't use pcmcia so i forgot what module it is.01:20
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JohannesenPBhi01:21
Healotmanut "dmesg | tail" >> lemme checkout the product/manufacturer id01:21
Killgoremanut: you havent done that Howto on the ubuntu forums about speeding up boot times by any chance?01:21
ubushinegiany911, try azureus. it's very nice. http://azureus.sourceforge.net/01:21
Talonwho here is from the philippines01:21
manutKillgore: no01:21
Healot"lsmod", manut, get any "pcmcia"?01:21
giany911ubushine big resource eater01:21
JohannesenPBanyone on powerpc here??01:21
manutHealot: yes01:21
Titan!tell Titan -about automatix01:21
theine!automatix01:22
ubotuwell, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.01:22
manutHealot: let's get the product/manufacturer id01:22
ubushinegiany911, yup. uses java... want small. then use CLI. original bt01:22
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theineyeah, that's what i want to hera01:22
giany911ubushine cli ?01:22
intelikeyso where can i get automatix ?01:22
NiklasH_work!tell NiklasH_work -about EasyUbunut01:22
ubushinegiany911, command line. terminal. no gui.01:22
Killgoreintelikey: dont01:22
giany911oo01:22
Healotyes... manut, what the output  of "dmesg | tail"?01:22
theineintelikey: read what ubotu said01:22
Killgoreintelikey: get autoubuntu i think its called01:22
intelikeyKillgore ah come on.01:22
giany911not that good in ubuntu01:22
Killgore!autoubuntu01:23
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Killgore01:23
NiklasH_workeasyubuntu seems more safe01:23
Killgoreahhh thats it01:23
intelikeytheine yes that's why i asked01:23
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Killgore!easyubuntu01:23
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu01:23
NiklasH_workdoesn't have to mess with your config files01:23
Healotmanut, try to do this "modprobe pcmcia vendor=0x<manufacturer id> product=0x<product id>"01:23
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giany911ubushine if i use azureus will i need jre? .. i think i can find it in synaptic ?01:23
intelikeyok if no one will tell me, google "MIGHT" tell me where to get automatix.01:24
theineintelikey: because you want to use something that is unsafe, overwrites configuration files, and does things that are considered risky? yeah, that's tempting01:24
patrick52222_jason: after installing the java it says its an older versionthan what i installed01:24
Titanubotu tell titan about autoubuntu01:24
Killgorewho was asking about bittorent?01:24
Healotor "modprobe usbserial vendor=0x<manufacturer id> product=0x<product id>"01:24
ab0rtedhey wouldnt it be better if ubuntu said "linux for humanoid carbon units" instead of "linux for human beings"? ;p01:24
NiklasH_workintelikey: why not easyubuntu?01:24
_jasonubotu: tell patrick52222 about multijava01:24
manutHealot: nothing important in dmesg 1 tail, just a epeated and annoying message: "[4297567.568000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).01:24
manut[4297567.568000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known."01:24
intelikeyNiklasH_work no bugs there.01:24
Healotab0rted:  you geek01:24
JohannesenPBsomeone using WPA and wifi-radar here?01:24
ab0rtedlol01:24
NiklasH_workok, lol01:24
egis:))01:24
ubushinegiany911, i'm pretty sure you need jre. it's an easy download. even from java.com it's simple. use the .bin (binary) file to install01:24
Killgoreanyway here are some popular bittorent clients http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_software01:24
Healotmanut, try to get the manufacturer id and product id of your pc card controller?01:25
NiklasH_worki'm waiting for the 'Connection reset' from intelikey ... :)01:25
Healotplease do so, and probe the hardware using that command i gave you previously01:25
NiklasH_work!java-package01:25
ubotuNiklasH_work: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:25
NiklasH_work!make-jpkg01:25
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NiklasH_work01:25
Killgorebrb restarting X01:25
theine!java-package01:26
Healot!javadebs01:26
manutHealot: the problem to me is how to do that. I'd better put in pastebin.com the dmesg complete output01:26
Healotsure01:26
Healotdo that01:26
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NiklasH_workgiany911: download the java package, then run make-jpkg on it01:26
patrick52222_jason: nope still not working im trying to run limewire01:26
intelikeyNiklasH_work it will probably happen.  but not why you expect it to...   my isp resets about this time errr no maybe i was off line when it did it this morning.01:26
theineI guess ubuto does not know about packages in multiverse?01:26
Healotdon't tail the dmesg output, would be good, manut01:26
_jasonpatrick52222: use frostwire instead of limewire would be first recommendation01:26
patrick52222_jason: will give it ago01:27
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Healotor no p2p01:27
_jasonubotu: tell patrick52222 about frostwire01:27
Healotas it is illegal in some countries01:27
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TitanOk, personal opinion here, what do you guys think is the best bittorent client out there?01:27
_jasonHealot: p2p is illegal where?01:27
Killgorewell thats one X problem solved01:27
KillgoreTitan: look earlier at the link01:27
NiklasH_workbtdownloadcurses. you can run it in a screen session01:28
Killgorenow i have a nice high 85hz refresh rate!01:28
TitanKillgore: I seen that link but it does not say what is the best or most commonly used.01:28
FredTechtitan: utorrent. will work in linux with the next wine version01:28
patrick52222_jason: will give it ago01:28
Healotin china :)01:28
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patrick52222_jason: how will i install it after it is downloaded01:28
_jason!deb01:28
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)01:28
NiklasH_workin china, music downloads YOU! :)01:28
manutHealot: http://pastebin.com/62668101:28
KillgoreTitan: its personal preference. What do you need to do? for example my friend has a Command line BT client to monitor downloads while he is away01:29
giany911i have pretty complicated problem with a tv tuner01:29
_jasonHealot: ah did not know that01:29
KillgoreNiklasH_work: no its "In soviet russia, music downloads YOU!01:29
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NiklasH_workyah, i know. i was making a clever reference :)01:29
TitanKillgore: I like to download Music and software. I have not found a good one for downloading software in quite some time though.01:29
Killgoreoh /me taps nose01:29
ubushine!deb01:29
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)01:29
NiklasH_work:D01:29
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BlueHeronTitan: azureus01:30
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KillgoreTitan: just try the BitTorrent client that comes with ubuntu01:30
Healotmanut: , please do "lspci" AND "lsusb" for me will you?01:30
KillgoreTitan: if you dont like it try Azureus01:30
KillgoreTitan: and what you can download doesnt depend on the client, you have to find the torrents first01:31
TitanKillgore: ya, I looked at the one that comes with ubuntu, lol don't even know how to get the thing to connect =P01:31
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NiklasH_workpiratebay.org is illegal in some countries, don't go there! :)01:31
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TitanKillgore: what is the best place to search for torrents?01:31
theineand don't go to isohunt.com either!01:31
sfaristhis is off topic01:32
KillgoreTitan: i dont think i should tell you in the public chan01:32
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NiklasH_workbut is it illegal to just download the torrent?01:32
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Healotnay01:32
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soohello01:32
Killgoreno01:32
Healotbut download/sharing the actual content via torrent network may be illegal01:32
Killgorebecause all it contains is hash information01:33
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pnooksterhrrrm01:33
Healotas you have not have the right to copy the actual content01:33
pnooksterthat was weird.01:33
Killgoretorrents = a bunch of letters and numbes01:33
Killgorebut back on to ubuntu01:33
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Healotas our lawyers said :)01:33
BlueHeronKillgore: it's called hash :-P01:33
pnookstermmm hash01:33
pnooksteri mean what?01:33
BlueHeron< has 4 illegal torrents going now01:33
pnookster>_>;01:33
giany911dudes how can i make a file in /etc/modprobe.d ? i need to write something in it01:33
sfarisKillgore: whats not a bunch of letters and numbers? :)01:33
Killgoretorrents01:33
intelikeywell they certenly made automatix hard enough to get.01:33
Killgoreoh lol01:34
theineTitan: if you just want to see how bittorrent works, go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ and click on one of the .torrent links01:34
pnooksterso have any of you gotten fluxbox working in ubuntu :D01:34
BlueHeronautomatix sucks thats why01:34
theineTitan: that's perfectly legal01:34
Killgoredidnt read it properly sfaris ;P01:34
intelikeyoh it's only in breezy.  that's why.  heh01:34
NiklasH_workintelikey: you still here? I thought your computer would have crashed and burned by now ;)01:34
manutHealot: http://pastebin.com/62668501:34
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BlueHeronautomatix is obviously the devil01:34
Killgorepnookster: im using blackbox i assume its similar01:34
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pnooksterya, fluxbox is blackbox++01:34
manutHealot: notice that my card is pcmcia01:34
intelikeyNiklasH_work :)01:34
manutso usb doesn't seem that interesting I think :P01:34
theinepnookster: it's in the repositories, isn't it?01:34
pnooksterunfortunately when i choose fluxbox as my session, i just get a blank screen with a mouse01:35
pnookstersigh01:35
pnooksteryeah, that's where I got it from01:35
Killgorepnookster: i was recommended to blackbox becuase fluxbox was based on a real early version of blackbox01:35
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NiklasH_workaah, it's great to have opinions about something i don't know anything about (like automatix) :)01:35
intelikeyNiklasH_work i reload my computers os twice a weak whether it needs it or not......01:35
Killgorepnookster: lol01:35
Healotnay, manut, some kernels detect pc card as usbserials :)01:35
pnooksterah.. i haven't looked at blackbox recently01:35
Killgorepnookster: thats all it is01:35
BlueHeronintelikey: why01:35
pnooksterkillgore: i've used fluxbox before01:35
Enthusiast78Hi! I have installed ubuntu-desktop over xubuntu-desktop and my terminal is still xfce's terminal. How do I change it to gnome-terminal?01:35
pnooksterthis was not fluxbox :>01:35
Killgorepnookster: try right-clicking :p01:35
intelikeyBlueHeron it was a joke son, a joke.01:36
theinepnookster: may be try starting it using "startx" and ~/.xinitrc01:36
BlueHeronintelikey: son lol ?01:36
HaRDaWaYany howto to install xgl with dapper+ati ?01:36
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Healot"cat /var/log/messages" can't see the ID in lspci01:36
pnooksterkillgore: i'm familiar with how fluxbox works..01:36
_jasonEnthusiast78: are you in gnome?01:36
theinepnookster: might give you a clue about why it's not working01:36
Killgorepnookster: sorry01:36
pnookstertheine: startx and ~/.xinitrc?01:36
Killgorefrom the command line01:36
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pnooksterKillgore: no ;)01:36
manutHealot: ok01:36
Enthusiast78_jason, No, in xfce. But I have installed xubuntu-desktop over ubuntu-desktop before (the inverse situation) and I got gnome-terminal...01:36
pnooksternp01:36
pnooksteri meant01:37
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pnooksterbrm. gonna restart this on one of my base terminals. brb.01:37
_jasonEnthusiast78: oh, don't know about xfce01:37
Killgorethere is a place to specify the defauly terminal isnt ther?01:37
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Enthusiast78_jason, I believe there's something about this in the alternatives thing, but I don't know how to use alternatives... Do you have any tips about it?01:37
theinepnookster: go to the console (ALT-CTRL-F1] ) and type "echo exec $(which fluxbox) > ~/.xinitrc" and then "startx -- :2"01:37
_jasonEnthusiast78: it's system > prefereces > preferred applications in gnome01:37
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Killgoretheine: can i have blackbox on one terminal fluxbox, etc etc (i assume it will take up a crap load of ram)01:38
manutHealot: http://pastebin.com/62668601:38
Enthusiast78_jason, Not exaclt what I want. I mean that tool that manages the links in /etc/alternatives01:38
_jasonEnthusiast78: well you use update-alternatives like this (with java as an example): sudo update-alternatives --config java01:38
theineKillgore: you sure can01:38
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Enthusiast78_jason, Thanks!01:39
sfariswich version of gaim comes with the ubuntu install-cd?01:39
Killgoresweet01:39
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gimmulf!nvidia01:40
ubotuI guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736801:40
Enthusiast78_jason, sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator does it. ;)01:40
Killgoreanyone know if MirandaIM works on linux?01:40
intelikeyoooh nice error...  "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."   hehhe  i forgot i cant use startx.01:40
Healottried reinserting the card, manut?01:40
_jasonEnthusiast78: ah, so it does.  good to know01:40
bimberisfaris: 1.5.001:41
jindThe text that appears under boot, is this stored somewhere so I can read exactly what stood there after the boot?01:41
sfaristhnks01:41
Healotthen do "dmseg | tail", just to make sure01:41
brendan_help with installing xine, i type sudo apt-get install xine-ui, but it says i need libxine1c2, i try to install that , but i cant01:42
intelikeyjind dmesg   is the command you asked about01:42
_jason!info libxine1c201:43
ubotulibxine1c2: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu10.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3909 kB, Installed size: 10284 kB01:43
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jindI am aware of dmesg :)01:43
_jasonbrendan_: do you have the main repository enabled?01:43
jindBut dmesg does not contain the same text. Much is missing01:43
patrick52222_jason: frostwire doesnt load once its installed01:43
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_jasonpatrick52222: what happens in a terminal?01:43
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brendan_how do i check?01:43
manutHealot: no luck01:43
_jasonbrendan_: /etc/apt/sources.list , pastebin it if you aren't sure how it works and I'll take a look01:44
patrick52222_jason: its looks for java01:44
intelikeyjind dmesg contains down to the starting of init.01:44
cionhey all, I need to use my tv out anyone can help me?01:44
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Healotmanut:, I don't car e about luck, just reinsert the card, "dmesg | tail"01:44
_jasonpatrick52222: did you follow the special instructions in ubotu's private message?01:44
GnarusLeoHi! how would I go about to change my interface from gnome to kde? I have done "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop" ... but shouldnt I change my repos or something?01:45
intelikeyjind anything after init starts MIGHT be found in /var/log/*01:45
jindintelikey: okai. I didn't know that01:45
_jasonGnarusLeo: did you install kubuntu-desktop you mean?01:45
patrick52222_jason: where do i get dos2unix to convert01:45
_jasonpatrick52222: the sysutils package01:45
GnarusLeo_jason, yes01:46
brendan_ok its come up, what am i lookin for here?01:46
_jasonGnarusLeo: when gdm or kdm starts, choose kde from the sessions menu01:46
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manutHealot: I've don't exaclty that, and dmesg showed no new output, that's what I was refering to01:46
GnarusLeo_jason, Its ok .. im running in kde now .. but some programs dont work (like azureus) and sucj01:46
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intelikeyjind less is very good filter for things like that    dmesg | less          less /var/log/messages01:46
_jasonGnarusLeo: hrmm, might want to try #kubuntu01:46
GnarusLeopatrick52222, you dont need dos2unix ... use nano, ctrl - o, and alt - d to change format :)01:47
sfariswhats the easies way to shut down X?01:47
Healotsfaris: , the button :)01:47
sfariswell, that closes down everything01:47
sfaris:)01:47
ys76Hello out there: Could somebody name me a working SCSI-U320-Controller for PCI Express? My Adaptec 29320-ALP is not working properly...01:47
sfariswhats the easies way to shut down only X?01:47
sfaris:D01:47
brendan_whats the main repository01:48
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Sergi0sfaris, ctrl-alt-backspace ?01:48
Enthusiast78sfaris, add a button that shuts down your window manager...01:48
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intelikeysfaris sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop01:48
GnarusLeosfar-ubu, ctrl-alt-backspace01:48
jindintelikey: thanks. I'll take that under advisement01:48
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bimberi!components01:48
ubotuThe rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components01:48
KillgoreGnarusLeo: that restarts the window manager01:48
sfaristhanks intelikey01:48
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sfarisive been told "init 11" also.. would that work?01:49
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patrick52222i just installed sysutils but i cant find it01:49
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intelikeyGnarusLeo that wont shut x down. it will only reset it.   not sure which he wants.01:49
Killgorehow do i get gaim to flash the "taskbar" icons like in windows MSN01:49
GnarusLeoKillgore, it restarts X yes ... also "ps aux | grep X" get the proper pid and "kill -9 <pid>"01:49
Enthusiast78sfaris, ctrl-alt-bk KILLS X.01:49
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_jasonbrendan_: can you pastebin it? it's easier to explain that way01:49
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KillgoreGnarusLeo: tru dat, pipes rule01:49
_jasonbrendan_: and if you preface your messages with my name, I won't miss what you say :)01:49
GnarusLeoEnthusiast78, no, intelikey's right ... it restarts it01:49
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HealotEnthusiast78: it restarts X,,, does not stop it01:49
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Healotkill the desktop manager script that start X would be the best way01:50
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brendan__jason okokokk01:50
Enthusiast78Healot, No, it kills X. It will restart if a login manager is running.01:50
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intelikeydoes this answer your question sfaris tty1 [root#~]  init 1101:50
intelikeyUsage: init 0123456SsQqAaBbCcUu01:50
Enthusiast78sfaris, ctrl-alt-bkspace is something 'mean' to do. ;)01:50
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HealotEnthusiast78:  and off course there IS a running dm...01:51
Killgorewho uses gaim here?01:51
intelikeyerr could have just said NO.01:51
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Healotthen it WILL restarts X01:51
Enthusiast78Healot, Yup, but still it KILLS X.01:51
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Healotand the dm restart X01:51
sfaris:)01:51
Healothence Ctrl+Alt+<- restart X01:51
sfarisyou are both right, i understand01:52
sfarisyou also understand each other01:52
sfarismove on01:52
Killgorelol01:52
sfaris:)01:52
bimberisfaris: you tell them!01:52
intelikeybut it's so much fun to argue the same point for hours......01:52
Killgoregive em a clip over the ears and send em on their way01:52
Killgorelol @ intelikey01:52
intelikeyspoil sports.01:52
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sfarishaha01:53
Killgoreso gaim01:53
Killgorewho uses it01:53
intelikey!pool01:53
ubotu[pool]  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool01:53
Healotgaim... me... but not for now01:53
intelikey!poll01:53
Killgore!poll?01:54
ubotu[poll]  asking a question to figure out who is running what in a channel with over 500 in is of questionable value - given that someone wrote something somewhere somewhere is most likely running it, is there anything specific you wanted to ask?01:54
Enthusiast78Killgore, I use it.01:54
KillgoreEnthusiast78: what kind of message notifications do you use?01:54
NiklasH_work!poll xterm01:54
ubotuNiklasH_work: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:54
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Enthusiast78Killgore, I use that '(*)' in the window title when there's a new message. Also hide new messages in the system tray icon until I click it.01:55
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intelikeythe bot used to have the cute !start a blah war   quotes and someone dismissed them....01:55
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KillgoreEnthusiast78: how do i do that?01:55
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KillgoreEnthusiast78: where in the preferences01:55
Enthusiast78Killgore, Do you have the Message Notification plugin enabled?01:56
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KillgoreEnthusiast78: yeo01:56
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KillgoreEnthusiast78: oh tru i see that thanks01:57
Enthusiast78Killgore, Then go to Message Notification and there you'll find these features. Also on the System Tray Icon preferences there's the hiding feature.01:57
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KillgoreEnthusiast78: thanks01:59
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Enthusiast78Killgore, No problem.01:59
KillgoreEnthusiast78: what does the tray icon look like if there is a message waiting02:00
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Enthusiast78Killgore, It blinks with a stick note in it.02:00
Killgoregimme some questions to answer02:01
_Rappy_which size should I make /   when /boot and /home has own partitions?02:01
Enthusiast78Killgore, I've heard about something called 'guifications' that should enable cooler notification methods, but I haven't tried it yet.02:01
ssam_Rappy_, minimum of 2 gb02:02
Killgore_Rappy_: / is everything that will be on the drive02:02
KillgoreEnthusiast78: ill look that up02:02
Enthusiast78Killgore, I'm installing the gaim-guifications package right now... Let's see what it does!02:02
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Killgore_Rappy_: like ssam said minimum of 2gb but realistically it should be about 5-10gb if your planning on having a lot of programs things like that02:03
gimmulfHi im having 2 identical tft monitors and is trying to configure xorg.conf with Twinview (new nvidia card) but i only get one of the monitors running.. Would be great if someone could help me getting the other one to work also... This is what my xorg.conf looks like: http://pastebin.com/626715  and this is my Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/62671602:03
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Killgoregimmulf: i wish all questioneers could be this thourough02:04
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gimmulfKillgore:  what? :)02:04
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Killgoregimmulf: you only have one monitor in there02:04
Killgoregimmulf: oh sorry02:04
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Killgoregimmulf: installed the nvidia drivers?02:05
gimmulf the first is in section "monitor" and the second specified in "device"02:05
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Killgoregimmulf: yer i saw that when i read down some more02:06
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_Rappy_Killgore : probably not. It's for an nice old lady I'm setting this up. But then again, she's not likely to have much on /home either. So I'll set it to 1002:06
_Rappy_tnx ssam and Killgore02:06
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gimmulfKillgore:  i installed nvidia-settings & nvidia-glx .. 10 minutes ago i used an ATI card but i guess it automatically use the nvidia drivers when i installed them02:06
applejackhello folks02:07
intelikey!info automatix02:07
idleone_having sound issues.02:07
idleone_I can here ubuntu system sounds02:07
idleone_www.985fm.ca I can listen to np wmmr.com I cant seem to listen to and neither can I listen to shoutcast.com or www.chom.com can someone tell me why?02:07
Killgore_Rappy_: see old people wont care if they are using XP or linux02:07
applejackany way to get an ITE8212 IDE controller to work with the boot-cd ?02:07
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Killgoregimmulf: sorry not much experience with dual monitors, just getting my head around configuring xorg02:07
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void^ah, ite8212. be sure to use an 80 pin cable, it doesn't like old cables.02:08
intelikeyidleone_ different format ?02:08
idleone_intelikey, yes they are all diff formats02:08
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gravesondoes anyone by chance know how to improve a an audio casette tape recording using audacity02:08
applejackvoid^, it doesn't work at all tho,... there doesn't seem to be a driver for it02:08
idleone_intelikey, but I cant seem to get any of those sites to play for me02:09
void^applejack: yes, the problem is, the driver hasn't been in the kernel for long..02:09
intelikeyyou have the win32codecs installed for restricted formats ?02:09
Killgoreidleone_: what kind of. yeah i was about to say that02:09
idleone_intelikey, yup I do02:09
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applejackhmmm,....02:09
Enthusiast78Killgore, I'm trying guifications right now... Really not what I expected... Just some small windows in the corner, like Thunderbird's.02:10
intelikeyidleone_ you just ran me out of aces.  i fold.02:10
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applejackbugger02:10
KillgoreEnthusiast78: and the name had me so worked up :)02:10
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idleone_intelikey, you fold but I'm stuck with a 2H and 4C and Im all in :/02:10
Enthusiast78Killgore, :)02:10
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pedrocrubuntu doesn't seem to recognize my keyboard's function keys, anything I can do about it?02:11
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cdocan anyone tell me a C compiler02:11
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_jasoncdo: gcc02:11
kbrooks!faq02:11
ubotuThe most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look - see also !desktopguide02:11
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cdo_jason thanks02:11
kbrooks!desktopguide02:11
ubotu[desktopguide]  found on http://help.ubuntu.com and is the definitive guide to configuring your Ubuntu PC!02:11
intelikeycdo gcc02:11
_jasoncdo: install build-essential to get everything you need to compile stuff02:11
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intelikeyoh sorry.  i'm slow.02:11
_Rappy_Killgore : yep, that's true. It's easier to make non-IT people use linux than IT-profeesionals :)02:11
cdo_jason thanks again a lot :D02:12
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idleone_how do I check and see if w32codecs is installed properly?02:12
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Killgore_Rappy_: at least we are learning it at uni. just in a really retarded way. The people who have never used linux before are going WTF!!!02:12
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_jasonidleone_: did you use the deb?02:13
patrick52222still cant get java to install the jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-1.bin02:13
idleone__jason, easyubuntu02:13
kbrooksidleone_, um.02:13
intelikey_Rappy_ that was the scuttel butt about 4 hours ago.   easier to put your granny on linux than a collage kid used to M$ windows.02:13
kbrooksidleone_, easyubuntu DOES NOT have that feature yet02:13
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_jasonidleone_: hrmm, make sure there are a bunch of dll's  in /usr/lib/win32/02:13
kbrooksidleone_, #easyubuntu02:13
kbrooks_jason, #easyubuntu02:13
kbrooks:)02:14
pedrocrI've solved it for the particular key I wanted with setkeycodes, but why aren't these recognized by default?02:14
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idleone__jason, there is .dll .ax . and a few .so files02:15
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Killgorehey i found another ubuntu distro last night called nubuntu02:15
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Killgoreits network ubuntu02:15
_jasonidleone_: you are probably find then :), just try playing stuff 9sorry for the wrong channel )02:15
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kbrooksKillgore, kewl02:16
BlippeKillgore, a nice package with sniffers and everything you need :D02:16
idleone__jason, I have tried playing them online radio stations but they dont play02:16
Killgorehandy02:16
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Killgoreit also has blackbox or fluxbox which is how i found it in the first place02:17
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intelikeywell i need to dump about 50m of software.......  this won't be easy.02:19
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kbrooksintelikey, "dump"?02:19
Killgoreusb drive?02:19
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Killgoreintelikey: FLOPPY RAID!!!02:19
patrick52222still cant get java to install the jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-1.bin02:19
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Blippeintelikey, "apt-get clean"02:20
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intelikeyhmmm any way to list packages by installation date?02:20
_jasonubotu: tell patrick52222 about javadebs02:20
intelikeykbrooks yeah i need the disk space.02:20
intelikeyKillgore almost02:20
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intelikeyBlippe hehhe yeah like that would do something here.02:21
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KillgoreFloppy raids f'ing rule!!!02:21
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oskariuntu-fi02:22
Blippeintelikey, newly installed?02:22
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intelikeyblippe custom installed.  not very resent.  but i know what apt-get clean does.  there is nothing in /var/cache/apt/02:24
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NiklasH_workpatrick52222: install java-package, then do make-jpkg jre...02:24
Killgorefinding remaining hd space from console "df -h" pretty cool02:24
Killgoreapt-get clean?02:24
intelikeyKillgore du -s is cool too02:24
intelikeyKillgore yeah clean.02:25
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NiklasH_workdu -s | sort -g gets them in size order02:25
Killgoreintelikey: what does it do02:25
idleone_Killgore, try discus sudo apt-get install discus then disucus -d02:25
intelikeyman apt-get for all the sorted details02:25
idleone_discus*02:25
Khamaelwill dapper have more features than updated packages?02:25
intelikeyit cleans out /var/cache/apt/archives/02:25
KillgoreNiklasH_work: someone knows their piping02:25
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Killgorehmm ill just use my new command to see how much space that dir is taking up02:26
xerophytehow can i change only the directory and sub-directory permission to chmod 777 some_directory tree ?02:26
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_jasonxerophyte: all sub-directories or just the first level?02:27
idleone_how do I enter another users /home from terminal?02:27
NiklasH_workKillgore: piping: a way of living :)02:27
Killgorewhat is in there anyway? archives you downloaded or ones you dont need02:27
_jasonidleone_: cd /home/another_user, usually02:27
intelikeyxerophyte for this in `ls -1R blah` ;do if [ -d $this ]  ;then chmod 777 $this ;fi ;done02:28
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KillgoreNiklasH_work: we had to explain named pipes for one of our assignment questions.........totally lost after persistant pipes02:28
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xerophytethx got it find . -type d -exec chmod -R 775 {} \;02:28
idleone__jason, Permission denied02:28
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intelikeyxerophyte blah being the base dir of corse02:28
_jasonidleone_: that means you don't have permission :)02:28
intelikeythat too02:28
idleone__jason, it's my other user02:29
_jasonidleone_: you can 'su other_user' to login as the other user02:29
NiklasH_worki never got the hang of fifos and that crap: command line pipes are the way to go :)02:29
Killgoreintelikey: what is in apt/archives02:29
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_jasonidleone_: or change the permissions, or use sudo02:29
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KillgoreNiklasH_work: wooo go the FIFO02:29
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NiklasH_worktried it once, never again. it gave me a rash02:30
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intelikeyKillgore what ever you installed sense the last time you cleaned it.... like the packages of you whole system maybe....02:30
Killgoreintelikey: so does that mean its contents are important? oh i get it....dw02:30
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Killgoreim looking to get some hd space back what can i get rid of?02:31
NiklasH_workKillgore: i guess you've done apt-cache clean?02:32
NiklasH_work*apt-get02:32
Killgoreno not yet02:32
Killgoreive got 207mb free and 61mb in apt02:32
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mds\Is it safe to assume that if I want a newer kernel than 2.6.12-10-686-smp (this version doesn't detect all of the d945g mobo resources properly) that I will have to compile it myself?02:33
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intelikeyi've got 27m free.  but want to install an app that requires 46m ...... i'm not sure i can trim that much....02:33
intelikeymds\ i think so.02:34
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Killgorecan i pipe to a pipe to a pipe?02:34
mds\ouch02:34
visik7how can I use a vanilla kernel withoutbroken ubuntu ?02:34
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intelikeyls | sort | less         or yes.02:35
Killgoreintelikey: just out of curiosity are u running of a usb drive?02:35
Killgorewoot02:35
mds\Killgore; yeah lke |grep <ahtever> |more02:35
intelikeyno no usb drive here.02:35
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intelikeymore ?    yuch02:35
Killgorehow big is your hard drive02:35
GnarusLeoHi ... I have some "volume down - volume uo - mute" buttons on my laptop .. these worked great with gnome, but not with kde ... how do I enable these again?02:35
Killgoreless > more02:35
intelikeyless is more than more.02:35
Killgorezomg02:35
Killgorethe logic02:36
Killgorewatch the ubotu bot explode02:36
mds\it was an example :P02:36
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mds\not that I'm cool enough to know the diff yet anyway02:36
intelikeyoh 610m   hehhe i missed that Q02:36
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Aisi!explode02:36
ubotuAisi: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:36
Aisidamn02:36
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Killgoreintelikey: man i got twice as much storgage as you02:37
intelikey:)02:37
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KillgoreEnthusiast78: is there an equivalent for right-click send instant message in msn for gaim?02:37
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intelikeywell i have a 104m hdc but it has windows....02:37
variantKillgore: ask in #gaim02:38
Killgoreon freenode02:38
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Enthusiast78Killgore, Sure. Right-click, IM.02:38
variantintelikey: use gparted to resize the windows partition and shrink it02:38
jimcooncatinstalling current extensions in default breezy firefox help?02:38
Killgoreintelikey: what windows 0.o02:38
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mds\so does ubuntu provide the source for later kernels anywhere?  Being that I'm a complete newb I need a sort of fail-safe way to compile a kernel02:38
intelikeyvariant lol....   it's kinda full.02:39
KillgoreEnthusiast78: but i have to know their email for that02:39
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intelikeyKillgore 9502:39
intelikey95 A   that is.02:39
Killgoreintelikey: nice i didnt think it would fit. Oh of course A is far superior to the common 95 hmm yes yes <- in a funny british accent02:39
intelikey:)02:40
intelikeyKillgore the install is 17 3.5 floppys  :)02:40
Killgore0.002:40
alan_hi all02:40
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Killgoreintelikey: how tedious to sit there and put in floppy after floppy02:41
intelikeynot as bad as installing a modern linux by floppies.02:41
NiklasH_workfloppies are soo 20:th century...02:42
Killgoreonce gain 0.002:42
intelikeyi installed mdk9.0 on a 486 lappy with no network and no cd drive.02:42
Killgoreintelikey: where do you find this awesome hardware. Seriously02:43
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intelikeythey throw away some really nice computers now days.02:43
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Killgoreintelikey: where do you get them? buisness's that dont want them?02:44
GnarusLeo!hotkey02:44
ubotuGnarusLeo: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:44
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Killgoreintelikey: btw where do you live02:44
GnarusLeo!hotkeys02:44
ubotuGnarusLeo: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:44
patrick52222http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error02:44
alunofala a galerinha02:44
intelikeyKillgore /whois tells a lot about where people are.02:44
dj-fu!msgthebot02:44
ubotuPlease message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:44
alunooi02:44
intelikeyactually mine is wrong.  but it still tells a lot..... :)02:45
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Killgoreintelikey: what does mine say then?02:45
Hammanmds\: you could get the kernel source for the kernel used in dapper02:45
Killgoreit says from that, that you are in texas?02:45
patrick52222http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error02:45
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alunoOI BANDO DE RAPARIGAS02:45
Killgorewhat language is that?02:45
Killgore!es02:45
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:45
intelikeydescr:        Internet Services Network02:46
intelikeycountry:      AU02:46
alunoMI LINGUAJE S DE MI PAIS02:46
intelikeyKillgore ^02:46
alunoBRASIL02:46
alunoJEJJEJEJEJEJE02:46
alunoPENTA CAMPEON02:46
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GnarusLeoHi ... I have some "volume down - volume uo - mute" buttons on my laptop .. these worked great with gnome, but not with kde ... how do I enable these again?02:46
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GnarusLeoI cant start hotkey-setup02:46
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soneveiopa!02:46
alunoRARA RURU O BRASIL  NOSSO02:46
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IdleOne!ops02:47
ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee02:47
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soneveialguem ai afim de tc?!?!02:47
IdleOnealuno, and sonevei are clones02:47
Hobbseealuno: english only please02:47
Hammanmds\: but compiling a kernel is quite a chore, you might want to consider updating to dapper02:47
soneveiwhat!?02:47
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alunoNO SE INGLS02:47
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soneveiiim brazinlian boy02:47
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Hammanalthough it still has some bugs :/02:47
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eStarhello, everyone, my ubuntu screen resolution is 3200x600.....how can I change it to normal?02:48
IdleOne!br02:48
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.02:48
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intelikeyKillgore you know "person:       Richard Coombe02:48
intelikey?02:48
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Killgoreintelikey: no02:49
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intelikeyjust wondered.  he owns your net block.02:49
Hobbseeack, always get called away from the computer at the most annoying times...02:49
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Killgoreintelikey: what do you mean? net block02:49
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intelikeythe ip address you use is regestered to or should i say through him02:50
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Killgoreintelikey: as in he is my server? what exactly does that mean02:51
GnarusLeoIf I press a hot-key, where can I see what the hot key produces?02:51
NiklasH_workKillgore: it just means that he's the one registered to the ip range your computer has an ip in02:51
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NiklasH_workKillgore: probably some guy at your isp02:51
IdleOneGnarusLeo, try #kubuntu for help with kde and I think you should be able to assign functions for you volume buttons using keybord shortcut02:52
intelikeyyup  like the sysadmin at your isp02:52
NiklasH_work!whois02:52
ubotuNiklasH_work: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:52
Killgoreok cool02:52
Killgorehand info02:52
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NiklasH_workcheck whois for info on who is assigned to a specific ip02:53
kbrooks!find cat02:53
kbrooks!more02:53
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks02:53
NiklasH_work!man whois02:53
ubotuNiklasH_work: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:53
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intelikeymaybe !help would help you.02:54
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Killgoreman whois02:54
jessy_vend site (pro) de tournoi complet (design / codage : web2.0 / AJAX) simple d'utilisation, pratique, classement des joueurs, gestion des equipes, news, regles...02:54
Killgoreare there chans where linux commands workl?02:54
Killgore!fr02:54
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:54
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intelikeyKillgore there are probably bots that "some" commands will work through.   the channel is not what give !info   the eggdrop bot ubotu is.02:55
GnarusLeoIdleOne, noone there to answer ...02:55
GnarusLeoIdleOne, have had this problem for about 3 hours with no help :)02:55
IdleOneGnarusLeo, look for keyboard shortcuts and see if you can assign functions to the buttons02:57
IdleOne!fishing02:57
ubotusomebody said fishing was ramdomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help either !ask in the channel or msg the bot :)02:57
Killgoreintelikey: i know about the bots but can IRC itslef accept commands?02:58
KillgoreGnarusLeo: what problem again?02:58
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intelikeyKillgore that would be very unsafe.  so no.02:58
GnarusLeoKillgore, I have hotkeys on my laptop wich I cant get to work after kubuntu install (Worked ok with gnome) ... its the volume buttons (up, down, mute)02:58
intelikeykeymapper - Keyboard map decision tree builder and interpreter  <--- possably ?02:59
KillgoreGnarusLeo: becuase gnome comes with a program to map keys and kde doesnt? am i right people03:00
Killgoredid we establish whether the buttons were actually working03:00
GnarusLeoKillgore, beats me ..03:00
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Killgorerun xev in a console and press the keys03:01
Killgorebut dont move the mouse03:01
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Killgorewell you can03:01
Killgorelike press the volume key and so on03:01
Killgoreit will tell you if any kepresses are being registered03:01
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intelikeyhmmm kde has it's own app for configuring that stuff  i think.    check the kconfig menu03:02
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x3arooha -.-"03:02
intelikey /03:02
intelikey/join #debian      <--- :)03:03
x3aroaso ^^ /ja03:03
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sfaris\debian# jion03:03
sfarisnot w0rk!03:04
toni_DeNapolii would like to start 3ddesk with F keys03:04
intelikeyKillgore that assumes that the irc client has that alias.03:04
toni_DeNapolihow can i use shortcuts for it ? ?03:04
Killgoretrue true03:04
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GnarusLeoKillgore, yes ... it respnds while pressing hotkeys03:05
nikihow do i reinstall without losing my home directory?03:05
GnarusLeoKillgore, what do I do with those=? :)03:05
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GnarusLeointelikey, cant seem to find anything in there03:05
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x3aroi search a packet-app / i hate it to install .deb or .rpm via terminal /someone know such a programm?03:06
intelikeyGnarusLeo sorry i have 101 key    don't play with that stuff much.03:06
GnarusLeook, couse I found the key codes for them ...03:06
GnarusLeo160, 171, 174 ..03:06
toni_DeNapolifor what03:06
GnarusLeoFor my hotkeys .. but dont know how to activate them03:07
intelikeyxbindkeys-config - An easy to use gtk program for configuring Xbindkeys.03:07
intelikeyxkeycaps - Manipulate X keymaps (for xmodmap) graphically.03:07
intelikeyxkeysw - A keyboard layout switch for the X Window System03:07
toni_DeNapoliyes . i put a  copy of the programm of my desktop03:07
intelikeyjust searching the package manager for you....03:08
x3arotest03:08
toni_DeNapolibut there is no option to edit it using shortcuts03:08
NiklasH_workx3aro: just try right-clicking on it and see what options you get03:08
NiklasH_worki get 3 programs that can open it03:08
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toni_DeNapolii konw ... no options about shortcuts03:08
GnarusLeothanks intelikey  ... Ill look into that :)03:08
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intelikeywell it's time for me to scram.    see  jall nes' time.03:08
x3aro@NiklasH_work h? xD03:09
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(thoreauputic/#ubuntu) Karlprof: I would try a test user - adduser test then try that user to login05:21
(Karlprof/#ubuntu) Hmm.05:21
(sfar-ubu/#ubuntu) i've downloaded mozilla-mplayer but i cant still view videos in firefox, do i need to do something else? (firefox 1.0.7)05:22
(Karlprof/#ubuntu) clear05:22
(Karlprof/#ubuntu) Ahem, that was meant to go in the console.05:22
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(thoreauputic/#ubuntu) Karlprof: if the test user can login you just have a problem in your own .gnome and or .gconf05:22
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sfar-ubumplayer doesnt even start in firefox..05:22
sfar-ubu(so its not the codecs)05:22
soundraysfar-ubu: restart firefox05:23
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gabbah_Dr_Willis, yeah, that's often the case. But one could for instance require sudo to create such open shares... then it would be easy to use AND secure, no?05:23
KarlprofAaargh, my massive xchat window is covering up the adduser terminal window.05:23
soundraysfar-ubu: and check 'about:plugins' to see if the plugin is there.05:23
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gnomefreakanyone remember the lib that kde depends on?05:23
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Raovqi don't suppose there is a way to have different backgrounds for workspaces?05:24
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soundraygnomefreak: *the* lib?05:24
laffer_pthow do I turn off the scrensaver from the terminal? and how do I force change the resolution throught the terminal too?05:24
thoreauputicRaovq: not in gnome05:24
arrickhey has anyone checked out thet linux XP Pro version of linux?05:24
soundraygnomefreak: do you mean qt?05:24
Dr_Willisgabbah_,  this is linux.. its proberly possable and done befor. :P ya just gotta find it.   - I just edit the file and create the few shares i like and am done with it. I was able to do all i wanted by chapter 3 of that book I think.05:24
Raovqdamn05:24
thoreauputicRaovq: without special hacks ;)05:24
nikiarrick, say whaaaat?05:24
gnomefreaksoundray: yes the lib there is one lib you can remove to get rid of kde and depends05:24
Dr_Willisgabbah_,  ive seen some dang neat tricks done with samba05:24
gnomefreakits libqt3-mt isnt it05:25
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usuarioOLA05:25
thoreauputicRaovq: it *is* possible but I forget the way - some people have written scripts etc for it05:25
gnomefreakthats the one ;)05:25
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gnomefreakty soundray05:25
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soundraygnomefreak: according to apt-cache showpkg libqt3-mt it could well be05:26
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karlprofYay! Test thingy worked!05:26
laffer_pthow do I turn off the scrensaver from the terminal? and how do I force change the resolution throught the terminal too?05:26
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gnomefreaksoundray: its getting rid of them ;)05:26
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thoreauputickarlprof: OK so your gnome dot files had a problem it seems05:26
FredeFuphow do I check which ip I got, e.g. which one assigned from DHCP?05:27
gabbah_Dr_Willis, like what? what could be so cool? :)05:27
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karlprofIs there any way I can just rebuilt my .gnome files?05:27
thoreauputickarlprof: you can either se up a new user and move your files or delete your .gnome* and .gconf stuff and try again05:27
soundraylaffer_pt: check out xvidtune -next to switch resolution05:27
arrickniki, I just went on ebay and typed in linux, and a guy has what he calls Linux XP Pro for sale on there, and I thought it was kind of funny05:27
thoreauputickarlprof: they regenerate05:27
thoreauputicon login05:27
karlprofIn which case.05:28
karlprof*chmods, deletes*05:28
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arrickniki, how do you mix a good os with microsoft?05:28
sfar-ubusoundray, its there and firefox have been restarted.. still wont work05:28
arrickhehe05:28
mahangusexi, what do you want? please dont private message me without asking. if you have a question, ask in here05:28
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David_MillsHi all, I'd like to know what to do with this bug I've discovered (or not): When I boot a dapper 5 live CD, I can't get static networking to work. I've looked in bugzilla.gnome.org, where they say the bug is fixed, but I can't see any trace of said fix getting into Dapper. I'va already asked on #launchpad, and they told me to come here.05:28
arrickthat should get some comments05:28
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mahanguDavid_Mills, #ubuntu+105:28
mahanguDavid_Mills, sorry for the second redirection of the day, but the dapper channel is that :)05:29
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arrickDavid_Mills, #ubuntu+1 is the place you want to ask questions about dapper05:29
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David_Millsmahangu + arrick : thanks, on my way :)05:29
arrickok05:29
soundraysfar-ubu: does mplayer work on the command line?05:29
nikiarrick, you got the url for that linux xp thing?  i wanna see :P05:29
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cycus_zwisushow to make gnome apps (while using kde)  use other than default icon sets?05:30
karlprofSo, thoreauputic, do I just go mad and delete everything with 'gnome' in the filename?05:30
Misnixarrick, did you see this?  http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Welcome%2C_Musicians%2105:30
karlprofOr is there some sort of list?05:30
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thoreauputickarlprof: heh - .gnome and .gconf files I think05:30
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thoreauputickarlprof: maybe also .gtkrc files05:31
soundraykarlprof: maybe also .gnome205:31
thoreauputickarlprof: that should give you a default desktop on next login IIRC05:31
karlprofOkeydokey.05:31
tholmesHi folks -- im having a bit of a problem compiling a program from source here -- it keeps erroring out wit the following error05:31
tholmeschecking for gnome-config... no05:31
tholmeschecking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found05:31
tholmesconfigure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install05:31
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thoreauputicsoundray: right .gnome* includes .gnome2 :)05:32
tholmescan someone please point me in the right direction05:32
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_jason!find gnomeConf.sh05:32
Turicashello. anyone from Canada?05:32
Toby_Newbiehow to setup a twinhan vision dvb tc card?05:32
soundraythoreauputic: that's not what you said, though :)05:32
spiderwormoskude: still around?05:32
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thoreauputicsoundray: originally I did05:32
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'gnomeConf.sh' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/gnomeConf.sh) in libdevel/libgnome-dev.05:32
thoreauputicsoundray: but a while back..05:32
_jasontholmes: see what ubotu said :)05:33
tholmesHi _jason thanks -- didnt know the bot could do that05:33
soundraythoreauputic: just clarifying.05:33
tholmes_jason, ya -- i see that -- very cool -- working on it now05:33
thoreauputicsoundray: sure :)05:33
_jasontholmes: yeah, it's best to install apt-file and use that instead though.  Just do apt-file update and then apt-file search filename05:33
arrickHey I thought people werent allowed to sell Ubuntu software?05:33
tholmes_jason, rather than synaptic????05:33
thoreauputicarrick: sure they can05:33
oskudespiderworm, yup05:33
spiderwormoskude: sweet :)05:33
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_jasontholmes: synaptic can't search for which package contains a given file05:34
arrickthoreauputic, how, if it is open source?05:34
thoreauputicarrick:  Free as in Freedom, not as in gratis necessarily05:34
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arrickok05:34
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tholmes_jason, ok -- never used apt-file --05:34
thoreauputicarrick: you can sell Open Source software05:34
tholmes!find apt-file05:34
ubotuapt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 2.0.7ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 92 kB05:34
arrickok05:34
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spiderwormdo you know of another package that does what I'm trying to do?  I've tried vnc2swf but didnt like it because I don't want Flash movies, and Istanbul, but didn't like it because it was crashy & buggy05:34
thoreauputicarrick: it's a confusion of "free" with "freedom"05:34
arrickok05:35
spiderwormwe should all just say libre instead of free05:35
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karlprofWell, I've deleted every GNOME-related file I could find in /home/karl05:35
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karlprofWish me luck05:35
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soundrayToby_Newbie: what version of Ubuntu?05:35
Toby_Newbiebreezy 5.1005:36
thoreauputicarrick: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/05:36
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oskudespiderworm, if you dont really need it for vnc, try gvidcap (you may need to build it from cvs to it to work right)05:36
tholmes_jason, it turns out that that libgnome-dev was not installed, so im gonna do that first and hope it gets it before i complicate my life any more05:36
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oskudespiderworm, http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/05:36
_jasontholmes: yeah, that's probably what you need05:36
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spiderwormoskude: i dont need it for vnc, I just need a stable desktop session recorder so I can make some Blender video tutes05:37
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tholmes_jason, thanks a bunch -- i really appreciate it05:37
_jasontholmes: np05:37
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spiderwormoskude: you think gvidcap will work?  will try05:37
soundrayToby_Newbie: as far as I know, DVB support in breezy is a bit patchy, especially if it comes to new cards like yours.05:37
soundrayToby_Newbie: is it a dual receiver (terrestrial plus cable)?05:37
KarlprofSoundray, thoreauputic.05:37
thoreauputicKarlprof: ?05:38
GnarusLeoHi, I have a problem with amarok using xine-engine, when I try to choose it it says: "xine was unable to load any audio-drivers" ... if I try about 10 times ittl work at the end ... any ideas?05:38
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KarlprofYou two are more awesome than something that's so awesome it transcends awesome and becomes almost God-like.05:38
Karlprof<305:38
spegIm trying to build a source package, and just installed build-essential, but i get an error thta /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build is missing. the build folder does miss, but everything else is there. where do i get that from ?05:38
oskudespiderworm, oh yeah, i love video tutorials :) i tried the last g/xvidcap from cvs back in hoary and it even worked (xvidcap was actually "dead") but ive seen some activity on the forums lately so cvs should be uptodate...05:38
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soundrayKarlprof: and that's no exaggeration at all! :)05:38
thoreauputicKarlprof: heheh - parse error in line one *grin*05:38
spiderwormoskude: thanks, i look forward to getting this then :)05:38
oskudespiderworm, i gotta go to kiosk, brb, ill compile gvidcap too then :)05:39
spiderwormcool :)05:39
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FredeFupI'm trying to get my wireless network running with WPA. I need to know which driver to use, e.g. madwifi and so, for setting up wpa_supplicant. How do I determine this?05:39
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wijnhi folks05:40
nikihi wijn05:40
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gnomefreaksexi: are you a bot?05:41
wijnHas anyone in here got any experience with configuring wireless internet via the console?05:41
soundrayToby_Newbie: still here?05:41
NjalLo all05:41
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arrick!wireless05:41
ubotuI heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers05:41
NjalI'm having some networking problems was wondering if anyone might be able to help me05:41
arrickwijn, that lask link was for you05:42
pulgokihas anyone been able to get age of empires II working on linux?05:42
wijnright, let me read that05:42
wijnthanks05:42
arrickok05:42
pulgokii just tried cedega with no luck05:42
arrickgood luck05:42
wijnoh I forget to mention that i'm running Kubuntu, put they redirected me to here05:42
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spiderwormoskude: found a debian package here: http://www.jarre-de-the.net/computing/debian/  .... seems to work, i had to install libpng205:42
Njaldoes anyone know how to set up NFS?05:42
wijnbut I assume the console is roughly the same?05:42
Dr_Williswijn,  should be the same. :P05:43
Dr_WillisNjal,  theres a nfs wiki or 2 at the ubuntu site.05:43
Dr_WillisNjal,  and ooodles of nfs howtos online.05:43
Njalyes but the NFS tutorials i have tried have not worked05:43
arrick!NFS05:43
uboturumour has it, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:43
axl000anyone can help me, i have no sound whit my centrino05:43
Njali wish i knew WHY but they didn't05:43
axl000sorry for my english05:43
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sfar-ubusoundray, yes05:44
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Dr_WillisNjal,  most likely - you donthave some service running they needed.05:44
soundray!tell axl000 about sound05:44
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axl000ok05:44
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soundrayaxl000: look out for a message from ubotu.05:44
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axl000i have a centrino, realtek sound card05:44
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axl000and i have no sound05:45
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GnarusLeoHi, I have a problem with amarok using xine-engine, when I try to choose it it says: "xine was unable to load any audio-drivers" ... if I try about 10 times ittl work at the end ... any ideas?05:45
mahanguin ubuntu power management, how can i set it so the machine goes on standby, but doesnt switch off? im upgrading from breezy -> dapper and want it on during the night05:45
Njalok looking at it i have seen the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo  page before and i ended up in circless05:45
oskudespiderworm, ok, nice05:45
Toby_Newbieyes05:45
axl000in wiki.ubuntu.com is a howto, but i doesnt work for my (sorry for my english)05:45
spiderwormoskude: hmmm maybe a little buggy, i think i might compile after all05:45
Toby_Newbiesoundtray its a card with cable (DVB-S)05:46
soundrayaxl000: try the troubleshooting pages you got from ubotu. If it's still not working, come back and describe the problem exactly.05:46
Raovqim trying to install java, and i have the rpm file, but i have no idea how to extract it05:47
axl000i look thtat pages05:47
oskudespiderworm, ill huntdown the cvs oneliner... you could get build-essential and subversion packages05:47
soundrayToby_Newbie: for DVB, it's usually best to install a dedicated distribution. I recommend c't VDR.05:47
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sfar-ubumy sound is not working at all.. where to start? :)05:48
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Toby_Newbieoh ok thanks for help05:48
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abonillaOK, I'm desperate. Is anyone having trouble with gaim on the MSN protocol? I have 4 Ubuntu systems and they all fail, at this location. But everyone is good working on Windows05:48
Njalok it's probably worth noting that i am starting out in networking endevours so LDAP and NIS makes no sense to me atm05:48
arricksfar-ubu, make sure you have the driver installed05:48
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arrickNjal, use samba05:49
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Njalsee i thought i should use that in the first place but was told NFS would be easier05:49
arrickwasnt for me05:49
Njalsince my laptop OSX has samba built in05:49
soundrayToby_Newbie: the Kanotix VDR Live-CD is very good for testing.05:50
christhemonkeyNjal i found samba really easy to set up05:50
arrickyep05:50
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axl000https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto?highlight=%28sound%29%7C%28intel%29 i follow that howto, but i dont know hw to install the realtek package05:50
GnarusLeo!xine-engine05:50
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GnarusLeo05:50
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Njalok as far as i am aware i have more than enough samba packages installed05:50
arrickI am able ok05:50
oskudespiderworm, sorry, we dont need "subversion" we need "cvs" :)05:50
Njali have smb, samba (a gui i think), libsmb and some others05:50
arrickmake sure you have smbfs installed tough05:51
Njalyep it is05:51
arrickok05:51
Njalit's a dependancy and was installed when smb was installed05:51
arrickthats all you need05:51
arrick!samba05:51
ubotusomebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:51
spiderwormoskude: heh of course :)05:51
arrickwill get you headed in the rigth direction05:51
Njalit's not windows i wanna use though05:51
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arrickwhat do y uwant to use, mac?05:51
Njali simply wanna use a desktop to back up an OSX machine05:51
KarlprofIs ubuntu inetd ir xinetd?05:52
Karlprof*or05:52
arrickuse the link05:52
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arrickit helped e ou on mine05:52
arrickme out on mine that is05:52
tholmes!find GnomeVFS05:52
soundrayaxl000: ignore the update section on top for now. Follow the rest of the page and see how far you get.05:52
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Toby_NewbieHi how to install xgl under breezy 5.1005:52
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oskudespiderworm, then you could make dir like "myprogs" in your home dir and "cd"ing in to it and then getting the xvidcap source code with "cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/xvidcap co ."05:52
dinamizadorhgdf05:52
gnomefreakToby_Newbie: you cant05:52
gnomefreak!xgl05:53
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/05:53
Toby_Newbiewehy that05:53
gnomefreak^^tob05:53
Kyralbecause its XOrg 705:53
Njalno it doesn't05:53
christhemonkeyKarlprof: initd05:53
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gnomefreakToby_Newbie: its because of the version of xorg05:53
Njali had XGL working on breezy05:53
Kyraland no way in HELL are we gonna backport XOrg 705:53
spiderwormok... actually oskude i have the source already... im trying to get it to compile05:53
KarlprofThanks, Chris.05:53
christhemonkeyxgl works in breezy05:53
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ruvia99ola05:53
Kyralif it does its sketchy05:53
spiderwormits not finding my avcodec.h file ....05:53
axl000i do that and alsa 1.0.10 dont work for my05:53
ubuntu2nice05:53
ruvia99lon km05:53
ruvia99,kll05:54
KyralYou'd need to backport XOrg 705:54
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soundrayToby_Newbie: you could install the required packages, but it's easier to install dapper (Ubuntu testing version)05:54
gnomefreakits not advised at all05:54
Njalit's ok as long as the graphics card is good05:54
oskudespiderworm, then cd to the xvidcap dir and running "./configure --with-gtk2"05:54
spiderwormok05:54
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KyralStop confusing the guy!05:54
KyralIts possible yes05:54
Njali had it running ok-ish on and old intel i810 video card05:54
Kyralbut then again installing the HURD is possible!@05:54
Kyralthat doesn't mean its EASY05:54
ruvia99ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:54
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gnomefreakor worth it05:55
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tholmes!find gnomevfs05:55
_jasonruvia99: /join #ubuntu-es05:55
KyralThough I'll do the HURD this weekend because I'm bored :P05:55
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oskudespiderworm, i think we need this "libgtk2.0-dev" package05:55
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Kyralin a Qemu image though05:55
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spiderwormoskude: its throwing me the same error05:55
soundrayToby_Newbie: if you test dapper, there's also a good chance you'll get your DVB card to work.05:55
Kyralmmm the HURD....05:56
christhemonkeywhats HURD?05:56
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soundray!hurd05:56
ubotusoundray: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:56
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soundrayDidn't think so :)05:56
Kyrallol05:56
oskudespiderworm, if ./configure complains about packages, it mostly that we need the "dev" packages from it05:56
arrickruvia99 , quit spammin05:56
KyralThe HURD is the GNU Kernel05:56
spiderwormoskude: right05:56
Kyralas opposed to Linux05:56
Njalok what would my domain name be, bearing in mind everything is running on DHCP05:56
Kyral(Hence why Linux is properly "GNU/Linux")05:56
Njali got ifconfig up05:57
arrickthe name of the pc you are trying th accedd05:57
arrickto access05:57
KyralIts a microkernel (right now based on Mach)05:57
oskudespiderworm, ok, my configure seemed to run ok...05:57
Njalso05:57
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nathanjis it better to install the mplayer-codecs pack over w32codecs?05:57
Njaldesktop is seraphim laptop is serenty05:57
Kyralas opposed to a Monolithic kernel (like Linux)05:57
arrickyou should set static05:57
arrickfor the one only though05:57
KyralDebian is the only distro that also offers HURD support05:57
soundrayKyral: I know all that -- I wonder if anyone else *wants* to know... ;)05:57
Kyrallol05:58
Njalmy host name for the desktop is automatically filled in as seraphim, it's domain name is05:58
christhemonkeyo ok05:58
spiderwormoskude: im trying to get liblame installed....05:58
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oskudespiderworm, damn, make gives errors :) (looking)05:58
KyralThe HURD can be much more powerful than Linux....05:58
Kyralonce they get the bugs out....05:58
spiderwormoskude: heh :) it happens05:58
KyralThe HURD is what the GNU project was developing for a Kernel before Linus got Linux working first05:58
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oskudespiderworm, dpkg -l shows me only "liblame0"05:59
soundrayKyral: Linus won by approx. 13 years, didn't he?05:59
Kyrallol05:59
Kyralyes05:59
Kyralbut the HURD's design has more potential05:59
spiderwormoskude: im not finding anything on liblame at all05:59
tholmesThis program is now asking for gnomevfs development, however synaptic shows it as installed now what do i do?05:59
spiderwormoskude: do you know what repo you're getting it from?06:00
KyralAnd this is also why "Linux" properly refers to the Kernel only06:00
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edulixhi !06:00
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Kyraland why "GNU/Linux" is the proper term for what people normally think of as Linux06:00
oskudespiderworm, multiverse06:00
soundrayKyral: the HURD is incredibly well thought through and principled. But sometimes it takes a Linus-Torvalds-approach to get things that *work*.06:00
Kyralsoundray: you mean the Bazaar?06:00
davidmoore83heh just running windows in Ubuntu Dapper :)06:00
edulixwhere can I set the java enviromental variables in ubuntu ? (eclipse is using gij when I'd like it to use sun jre, and I want it to choose to do so in a global way not just eclipse)06:01
soundrayKyral: no, I mean a pragmatic way of thinking.06:01
Kyralheh there are plenty of HURD hackers06:01
_jasonubotu: tell edulix about multijava06:01
Kyralmost of them in the Debian community06:01
spiderwormoskude: odd, i have the multiverse repos enabled and working....06:01
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Njalok I'm just a bit lost here06:01
KyralLike I said, the microkernel design has much more potential than the monolitchic kernel06:01
mds\ubotu: tell mds\ about multijava06:01
KyralOS X runs on Mach06:01
Kyralwhich is a microkernel06:02
Njali have my computer name and domain name set up in linux06:02
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Njalbut in OSX it's unclear as to where i should go from there06:02
edulixeclipse06:03
edulixsearching for compatible vm...06:03
edulix  testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...found06:03
edulixit's still not using sun jre06:03
KyralAccording to bddebian...wireless networking in HURD sucks right now06:03
Turicashello. anyone from Canada?06:03
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Raovqim from australia, thats almost canada06:03
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Kyraloh and a side note06:03
patrick52222http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error06:04
dsrI have a small question, i know it should be ask elsewhere but I bet someone can answer quickly.. Whenever I use the command line "time" to measure ressources usage, I cant seem to be able to pass any options to it. It just seems to treat the options as the COMMAND to run06:04
davidmoore83Turicas: why are you going round ALL the channels asking this?06:04
soundrayTuricas: ask a Ubuntu related question.06:04
oskudespiderworm, well, i get liblame0 and liblame-dev with apt-cache search liblame06:04
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KyralThe HURD is the only known mutually recursive acronym06:04
spiderwormoskude: wtf... with apt-file -l search liblame I get both of those as well, but with apt-cache search liblame I get nothing06:04
christhemonkeyis there better latency with HURD for audio?06:04
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Kyralwith the H in HURD standing for HIRD and the H in HIRD standing for HURD06:04
oskudespiderworm, and youre using breezy ?06:04
spiderwormoskude: and of course, apt-get install liblame says there's no package either06:04
spiderwormoskude: yeah06:05
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venkyhello I am trying to install gaim but iam getting an error "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"  what shud i do?06:05
Turicasdavidmoore83, because i need to talk with an ubuntu user from canada ;)06:05
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davidmoore83Turicas: why? all ubuntu users from anywhere are the same LOL06:05
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spiderwormwhy would apt-file show liblame package but not apt-cache ?06:05
Kyralvenky: why compiling?06:05
oskudespiderworm, very weird... i got my from here : deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse06:05
christhemonkeythere are plenty of mutually recursive acronyms?06:05
spiderwormi'll download it manually06:06
christhemonkeyJACK; the JACK audio connection kit06:06
edulix /etc/eclipse/java_home that's the file I had to change06:06
Turicasdavidmoore83, i'm brazilian and want to go to Canada06:06
venkyiam trying to install beta 206:06
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Kyralchristhemonkey: thats a recursive06:06
edulixnow it seems to work. man was gij slow lol06:06
Kyralerr06:06
Kyralsingle recursive06:06
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Kyrallike GNU is GNU's Not Unix06:06
patrick52222http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error06:06
davidmoore83Turicas: what has that got to do with ubuntu? no offence my man but these channels are for help on ubuntu06:06
nathanjhttp://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - anyone used this to install packages is it safe?06:06
KyralHURD means "HIRD (something tjhing thing)06:07
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Kyraland HIRD means "HURD something something something06:07
Kyralsee the difference?06:07
christhemonkeyoh i get it know06:07
KarlprofHey again. Sorry to be annoying (no doubt you're sick of answering my questions)... but how would I go about restarting inetd?06:08
edulixthanks, bye!06:08
Njalsudo inetd restart?06:08
spiderwormoskude: manually installed.... that was all very odd06:08
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Njalno wait06:08
venkyis there a way i can install it , i mean do i have to install some C compiler whats $PATH06:08
Njalsudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart?06:08
Kyralvenky: why are you compiling GAIM?06:08
Kyralits in the repos06:08
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dsrI have a small question, i know it should be ask elsewhere but I bet someone can answer quickly.. Whenever I use the command line "time" to measure ressources usage, I cant seem to be able to pass any options to it. It just seems to treat the options as the COMMAND to run. Anyone know why?06:09
Kyraldsr: its something with BASH06:09
venkyi dont know just following the install instructions06:09
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Kyralyou see, Bash has its own time thing06:09
spiderwormoskude: yeah ok i'm getting make errors too06:09
Njalok i have switched my network over to manual IP addressing06:09
venkyits not the usual GAIM..its gaim 2 beta206:09
Kyralso to use Linux's you have to do /usr/bin/time06:09
oskudespiderworm, btw, i reconfigured with "./configure --with-gtk2 --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg" so we dont have to mess with ffmpeg06:09
Kyralah06:09
nikiKyral, does HURD have it's own OS?06:09
dsrahh06:09
Kyralniki: its just a Kernel06:09
nikiKyral, oh, ok06:09
soundraydsr: try calling /usr/bin/time -a ls06:09
Kyrallike Linux06:09
Njalhow would i now go about creating a samba share06:09
Njalum hurd's a file system not a kernel06:10
spiderwormoskude:  :) sounds good... dont forget to make clean06:10
nikiKyral, gotcha06:10
KyralX can run on it, as can KDE and GNOME06:10
KyralNjal: GNU/HURD06:10
oskudespiderworm, and makeing the ffmpeg library seemed to work here, on to gvidcap06:10
Njalyes06:10
nikiKyral, have you tried it?06:10
Njali know the convention06:10
patrick52222http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error06:10
KyralNjal: its a kernel06:10
spiderwormXD sweet!06:10
KyralI know it06:10
Njalbut the 'hurd' system uses mach as a kernel06:10
Kyralyah06:10
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Kyralwell, as its base :P06:10
oskudespiderworm, means, the configure script maked the ffmeg library when used with the flag06:10
KyralI haven't tried it06:10
Njalso hurd is a hybrid of mach?06:10
KyralI wanna use Qemu for it06:10
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KyralI dunno really06:11
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spiderwormoskude: hmm i'm getting another make error now...06:11
FrogzooKyral: kqemu is better06:11
oskudespiderworm, post on pastebin06:11
Kyralvenky: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:11
Njalon the hurd site is claims the whole system uses mach as it's kernel and hurd as it's file system06:11
patrick52222i need java but the restricted format way doesnt work is there another way06:11
_jasonubotu: tell patrick52222 about javadebs06:11
KyralNjal: I haven't searched that much on it06:11
Njali looked into it a while back06:12
nikiit sounds like good reading06:12
Kyralyah06:12
Njalthey claim hurd is a file system which confused the hell outa me06:12
KyralIt looks like fun :D06:12
GnarusLeoHi, I have a problem with amarok using xine-engine, when I try to choose it it says: "xine was unable to load any audio-drivers" ... if I try about 10 times ittl work at the end ... any ideas?06:12
Njalcoz i though hurd should be the kernel06:12
oskudespiderworm, and i remember you had to use "make gvidcap" for gvidcap, but cant find it mentioned anywhere in the docs...06:12
Frogzoopatrick52222: wrong - the restricted java (ie Sun's) works like a champion06:12
christhemonkeyHurd stands for "Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons," and "Hird" stands for "Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth."06:12
Kyralchristhemonkey: see? :P06:12
patrick52222yeh but i need jre for limewire06:12
spiderwormoskude: hmm thats interesting06:13
arrickI forgot, how do I use Quickbooks Pro 2002 on ubuntu?06:13
nikichristhemonkey, wow...that's deep :D06:13
_jasonchristhemonkey: they keep getting more clever with the names huh06:13
arrickcross something06:13
Kyralcrossover office06:13
trappistarrick: crossover office06:13
arrickthanks06:13
trappistarrick: www.codeweavers.com06:13
skeetoIm trying to install Ubuntu on a server that has SCSI hard drives, and for some reason its not seeing the drive when it gets to the partition screen06:13
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arrickis that installed on ubuntu default?06:13
gpafvytryty06:13
gpafvmakiana06:13
oskudespiderworm, i had to install "libxmu-headers" tho get past the first error: ../Xw/Box.h:26:32: error: X11/Xmu/Converters.h: No such file or directory06:14
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christhemonkeyye lol06:14
soundrayskeeto: is it an Adaptec card?06:14
skeetoyes06:14
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spiderwormoskude: http://pastebin.com/627042 <---- and i of course usr/include/ffmpeg/common.h esists....06:14
KyralRumors had it that the rumored "Gnubuntu" would be Ubuntu/HURD06:14
skeetoAIC 789006:14
Njalok, the hurd is just add on's to the mach kernel06:14
soundrayskeeto: have you enabled the card's bios?06:14
GnarusLeo+c06:14
Njalfor file system implementation and such06:14
spiderwormoskude: http://pastebin.com/627042 <---- and of course usr/include/ffmpeg/common.h exists....06:14
Frogzoopatrick52222: frostwire runs fine with 1.5.0_06 - haven't tried limewire though, but likely the same06:14
trappistspiderworm: sudo apt-get install tendra06:14
NjalIntroduction to the Hurd06:15
NjalThe GNU Hurd is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. The Hurd is a collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel to implement file systems, network protocols, file access control, and other features that are implemented by the Unix kernel or similar kernels (such as Linux).06:15
skeetoyes, I even setup a logical drive and formatted the physical drives06:15
nikioooohhh, Debian GNU/HURD06:15
arrickis xoffice free?06:15
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spiderwormtrappist: ok, thanks....06:15
oskudespiderworm, did you do "./configure --with-gtk2 --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg" ?06:15
patrick52222frogzoo:it does work with that one but i cant seem to get it installed06:15
spiderwormoskude: yeah06:15
soundrayskeeto: I see, a RAID config?06:15
trappistspiderworm: tendra: usr/lib/TenDRA/lib/include/x5/mu.api/X11/Xmu/Converters.h06:15
Kyralthe crosshurd package is in Ubuntu06:15
skeetoyeah raid 506:15
arrickFrogzoo, morning06:15
oskudespiderworm, well, you said you didnt get the package from cvs, so maybe its not included ?06:15
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nikiKyral, crosshurd?06:16
Kyralits the install method of HURD06:16
spiderwormoskude: its possible, actually, let me check06:16
Frogzooarrick: hi06:16
Kyralyou have to install it in a method similar to LFS06:16
christhemonkeyso is it possible to run ubuntu on HURD?06:16
skeetosoundray: I know they work cuz I had win2k server on it06:16
Kyralchristhemonkey: no idea :P06:16
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arrickFrogzoo, is crossover office a free app, and where do i get it?06:16
pulgokido you need to have the smbfs installed to use samba as a server?06:16
nikichristhemonkey, you should try it and tell us :D06:16
Frogzoo!tell patrick52222 about frostwire06:16
Kyralthat could be an interesting experiment06:16
Njalyes06:16
trappistarrick: no, and www.codeweavers.com06:16
KyralI mean its not Linux06:16
Frogzooarrick: crossover office costs real money06:16
christhemonkeylol :p06:16
Kyralthe HURD I mean06:16
soundrayskeeto: if the installer kernel doesn't recognize your RAID, it's going to be difficult to install without major trickery. Would installing the ubuntu root on a separate, non-RAID drive be an option?06:17
Njalyou need smbfs for a samba server06:17
KyralDebian Sid has packages for HURD06:17
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nikiKyral, it's not UNIX based?06:17
silasjhello06:17
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Njalnow, how do you set up a samba share?06:17
Kyralniki: It was intended to be a free replacement of Unix06:17
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soundrayskeeto: you can probably then make the RAID work for data after you've installed the base system.06:17
spiderwormoskude: looks like you're right... let me try with system ffmpeg and if that doesnt work i'll grab cvs checkout06:17
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XVampireXYello :)06:17
axelhi06:17
nikiKyral, ohhhhhh06:17
arrickFrogzoo, is there a free version? I want to run quickbooks pro in ubuntu06:17
KyralHell, the entire GNU project is06:17
patrick52222frogzoo:how do i do  the convert bit06:17
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silasjhow can I get the encoding of a file? the [file]  command doesn't return anything about.06:17
skeetosoundray: let me see if I can do that06:18
oskudespiderworm, roger, btw, looks better "libxmu-dev"06:18
XVampireXHey, I got a question.... Will I be able to play Mods of games such as Diablo 2 if I run it through Wine?06:18
arrickXVampireX, morning06:18
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axelhave port 22 open have openssh server installed can trace and ping but get refused from remote connection any ideads06:18
christhemonkeyhttp://www.pick.ucam.org/~mcv21/hurd.html06:18
spiderwormoskude: eh?06:18
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XVampireXarrick: More like evening here06:18
arrickFrogzoo, any other app, maybee that works similiar?06:19
arrickok06:19
arrickmorning here06:19
Frogzooarrick: try wine - best to install wine & then install winetools to configure it06:19
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arrickok06:19
nikihey, there's a #hurd on freenode :)06:19
trappistarrick: afaik that's the only way to run quickbooks06:19
Kyralniki: no kiddin'06:19
oskudespiderworm, i had to install "libxmu-headers" tho get past the first error: ../Xw/Box.h:26:32: error: X11/Xmu/Converters.h: No such file or directory, needs "libxmu-dev" too/instead06:19
arrickafaik?06:19
axelniki: your telling me06:19
trappistarrick: except something like vmware, where you run the whole windows06:19
trappistarrick: As Far As I Know06:19
arrickok06:19
arrickyou mean wine right?06:19
spiderwormdammit, oskude can you paste the command to grab a cvs checkout again?06:19
XVampireXFrogzoo,  talking to me perhaps? :P06:19
nikikyral, axel, i didn't know it was there :P06:19
trappistarrick: crossover office is wine on steroids06:20
spiderwormoskude: oh ok :) yeah i already had that one installed06:20
trappistvmware is something completely different06:20
arrickoh ok06:20
oskudespiderworm, damn, i now get the same error as i got back in hoary first... main.c:543: error: CAP_AVI undeclared (first use in this function)06:20
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oskudespiderworm, then you could make dir like "myprogs" in your home dir and "cd"ing in to it and then getting the xvidcap source code with "cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/xvidcap co ."06:20
christhemonkeytheres also a debian mailing list for HURD06:20
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trappistarrick: wine lets you run windows software.  vmware lets you run windows.06:20
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arrickFrogzoo, do i use 'sudo apt-get install wine' for that?06:21
arrickok trappist, thanks06:21
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sgrgc!ping06:21
ubotupong06:21
spiderwormthanks oskude getting it now06:21
christhemonkeygoing to go now an try to get an ubuntu HURD box going :D06:21
christhemonkeythanks for the idea!06:21
nikichristhemonkey, come back and tell us how it goes :D:D06:22
arrick!wine06:22
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christhemonkey:D will do!06:22
christhemonkeybye06:22
XVampireXHey06:22
nikibye!06:22
XVampireXCan I run game mods from Wine?06:22
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sgrgc!pong06:23
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sgrgc06:23
Frogzooarrick: yes - mixed success for quickbooks reported on the wine app db: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=49306:23
venkyi have installed gaimbeta2 but i dont know how to run it06:23
venkyi dont see a shortcut06:23
Kyralvenky: its in /usr/local/bin06:23
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Kyralit will replace GAIM06:23
Kyralautomatically06:23
Kyraldue to $PATH06:23
arrickok06:23
indypendehi all06:23
arrickthanks06:24
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XVampireX"XVampireX Can I run game mods from Wine?"06:24
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venkyhow shud i go to the directory06:24
sgrgc!rq06:24
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sgrgc06:24
spiderwormoskude: damn, this is one loooong configure06:24
nikivenky, cd /usr/local/bin06:24
soundrayXVampireX: feeling ignored?06:25
Kyralvenky: the menu shortcut will launch it06:25
oskudespiderworm, it compiles the included ffmpeg library...06:25
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skeetosoundjay: yeah I can do that06:25
soundrayskeeto: is it a solution for you?06:25
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XVampireXsoundray: Indeed06:25
soundrayXVampireX: I'd try to help if I knew what you meant by game mods.06:26
XVampireXmodifications of games06:26
giggseyI've just put in a new gfx card in my dapper, and now X won't load.06:26
venkythere is nothing inside that directory06:26
XVampireXSo you can change the gameplay of a game06:26
soundrayXVampireX: if the original game runs, I don't see why the mod shouldn't.06:26
skeetosoundray: yeah, It will have too cuz it seems like its not gonna work with the SCSI06:26
patrick52222im having probs with java its seems to install but when i check version it no thte one06:26
skeetosoundray: thanks for your help man06:26
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XVampireXFor example, to get a Diablo 2: LoD mod running I need to replace several files06:26
soundrayskeeto: one thing you should consider is doing a software RAID06:26
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XVampireXDLLS and the main gameplay file Patch_D2.mpq06:27
_jasongiggsey: #ubuntu+1 for dapper, something to try would be 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'06:27
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soundrayskeeto: instead of leaving it to the adapter.06:27
nuryola06:27
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nikiXVampireX, game mods work for UT linux06:27
XVampireXYeah, But I mean Wine games06:27
nikiXVampireX, oh...06:27
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XVampireXAs in, Windows Games used with  Wine on Linux06:27
giggsey_jason: Thanks06:27
nuryola06:27
skeetosoundray: yeah that sounds like a good idea06:27
venkyi did make install and then make clean06:28
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XVampireXSo will I be able to run game mods? Does Wine run games EXACTLY like it runs on Windows?06:28
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fyrebathey all, does anyone know what lex is, or how to install a 'flex' package?06:29
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mephis1987what command that send message to the user in my system06:29
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soundrayfyrebat: 'sudo apt-get install flex'06:29
Frogzoomephis1987: wall ?06:29
fyrebatthx man06:29
lkd-efslittle help getting my audigy working?06:29
Frogzoowall boo06:29
lkd-efsi get sound but it's intermittent06:29
_jasonmephis1987: write06:29
truz24How can I delete files that are created/modified before a certain date?06:30
soundray!tell lkd-efs about sound06:30
jetKinshi, how do i know if apm is on in ubuntu?06:30
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nonoplop all06:30
_jasonmephis1987: you can use wall for everyone to see06:30
nonoComment editer le fichier que gere grub ?06:30
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nonopour le choix du systeme au demarage ?06:30
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_jason!fr06:30
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:30
nono(pour ventuellement, mettre Windows par defaut)06:30
nonok06:30
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PassionI've used recent dapper on my laptop so far.  since some days ago, the fonts on the program using TTF Font (Windows Font called Gulim) have looked broken, but if i move the mouse cursor over the area, it looks well. The problem's occuring only to me or not.06:30
spiderwormoskude: getting errors like this: xt_control.c:110: error: AppData has no member named fps06:30
lkd-efsthanks soiundray i'll give it a whirl06:30
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oskudespiderworm, error or warning ?06:31
venkyiam wondering what happened to my installation06:31
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spiderwormoskude: errors06:31
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jetKinshi... what is the command do i use so that i will know if my APM is on06:31
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oskudespiderworm, the error i get (and lot others) seems to have something to do with ffmpeg, ill try compiling it manuall...06:32
FrogzooPassion: -> ubuntu+106:32
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oskudespiderworm, post your errors in pastebin06:32
GnarusLeoanyone have an idea on my problem?06:33
GnarusLeo+c06:33
GnarusLeoHi, I have a problem with amarok using xine-engine, when I try to choose it it says: "xine was unable to load any audio-drivers" ... if I try about 10 times ittl work at the end ... any ideas?06:33
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spiderwormoskude: http://pastebin.com/62708106:33
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doubletwistGnarusLeo I could only get it to work well with the gstreamer engine.06:34
FrogzooGnarusLeo: check your audio card is detected in /var/log/messages06:34
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jortegaalguien sabe como meterse en los chat de las ciudades06:34
venkyi am trying to install gaim beta 2 , i installed it with make install but i dont find anything in /usr/local/bin directory06:34
GnarusLeoFrogzoo, it works sometimes ... doubletwist: Does that play mp3?06:34
venkyhow shud i launch the program06:34
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oskudespiderworm, do ctrl+c after running the command and the first error comes and paste all (including the command)06:35
FrogzooGnarusLeo: /var/log/messages is first place to look...06:35
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GnarusLeovenky, an easier way would be "sudo apt-get install gaim"06:35
LoCusF!naama velli split 7" pulkka-avanto06:35
ubotuLoCusF: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:35
venkyya but thats not beta 206:35
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icarohi06:35
linuhxmastahyou suck06:35
spiderwormoskude: what you have there is the first error and all the errors after06:35
linuhxmastahall of you!06:35
spiderwormlinuhxmastah: who told?06:36
linuhxmastahshame on you!06:36
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arricklinuhxmastah, why you geting crazy?06:36
nathanjwhere do i extract the mplayer-essentials?06:36
arrickbest help Iv had was from in here06:36
linuhxmastahwe should all support one port06:36
Frogzoo /ignore linuhxmastah06:36
nikilinuhxmastah, that's boring06:36
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oskudespiderworm, hmm06:36
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nikilinuhxmastah, i like to try lots of different ports...it's fun :)06:36
jmartiniwhich port? port 80? port 25?06:36
venkykyral r u there?06:37
Kyralhmm?06:37
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Kyralvenky did you do sudo make install?06:37
oskudespiderworm, http://www.jarre-de-the.net/faq/index.php?aktion=artikel&rubrik=002&id=5&lang=en06:37
arrickor do you mean channel? #ubuntu rocks, working with ports sucks at times06:37
icaroI have a kind of problem with a printer, once I install the driver and conect the usb driver the gnome-printer program doesn't work06:37
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venkyoh ok06:38
Kyral!compile06:38
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)06:38
arricklinuhxmastah, whats your question, or are you just complaining?06:38
linuhxmastahim complaining06:38
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spiderwormoskude: hmmm, reading, thanks06:38
arrickI thought so,06:38
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inruza5naaaaaaas06:38
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arrickyou want to try a channel that sucks go to #wine, man they're pretty rude in ther06:38
nikilinuhxmastah, you should complain in #ubuntu-offtopic .... this is a support channel :)06:39
arrick#winehq06:39
fyrebatanyone know how to install x development headers? "sudo apt-get install x development headers" ?06:39
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nikiarrick, yeah, or #slackware .... they banned me just for _asking_ about wireless networking06:39
arrickHahah06:39
patrick52222java now says i have to run this to install "dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb" but it wont allow me06:39
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CubiesWOW! This is a lot of Ubuntu users.06:40
jmartininiki: Bob hates wireless... no slack06:40
XVampireX:P06:40
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patrick52222wat should i do06:40
CubiesHi, I'm one of those annoying noobs you read about. I'm stuck using Windows now I want to start learning Unbuntu to cross into the realms of the other side.06:40
nikiCubies, that's because ubuntu is teH force!06:40
Rubinpatrick52222: are you using sudo?06:40
jmartinipatrick52222: what error do you get when you try to run it?06:40
oskudespiderworm, ok, i got "checking for img_convert in -lavcodec... no" too...06:40
spiderwormfyrebat: problably apt-get install X11-dev or something06:40
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fyrebatthx, I'll try that06:41
CubiesWell not really 'annoying'.06:41
patrick52222dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege06:41
CubiesMore...06:41
arrickcubies, your following in my footsteps from friday06:41
arrickI just started using ubuntu friday morning06:41
_jasonCubies: no a noob who reads cannot be annoying06:41
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patrick52222but no password promt comes up06:41
_jasonCubies: welcome :)06:41
Rubinpatrick52222: put sudo in front06:41
Fracturehow do I release a DVD recorded when cdrecord crashed while writing a disk ?  I can't eject it, and it reckons its not mounted.06:41
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oskudespiderworm, ill try ubuntus ffmpeg, sec..06:41
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arrickCubies, whats your question?06:41
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Mabus06How can I configure my system so I am alerted to ssh login attempts?06:42
patrick52222ok06:42
patrick52222nah now it working06:42
spiderwormoskude: ok06:42
RubinFracture: thats one of my biggest pet peves about ubuntu.06:42
doubletwistFracture: Use a paper-clip or reboot.06:42
msidis there any guide available on how to configure smartmontools on ubuntu ?06:42
CubiesI'm looking forward to customising my Unbuntu GUI so it 'ownz' (I too can be 'elite') I've tried customising Winblows, but there are too many limitations.06:42
Fracturewell those answers suck06:42
Fracture:(06:42
Fracturehehe06:42
fyrebatspiderworm: couldn't find the package, how would I find the name I'm looking for?06:42
RubinMabus06: if you install logwatch you'll get a daily email06:42
doubletwistFracture : Actually sometimes if I do a 'sudo eject' it will then let me manually eject by pushing the button on the drive.06:42
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CubiesOh! I don't really have any questions just a few queries.06:42
doubletwistFracture but that's a 50/50 shot at best.06:43
Fractureso far I have had more crashes and reboots with ubuntu than I did with xp :(06:43
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CubiesRTFM?06:43
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Cubieso.o06:43
Frogzoomsid: /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/examples/06:43
Mabus06Rubin: Thanks, but I'd like to be alerted so I can shut it down if it's malicious, I've been having problems with people trying to bruteforce me.06:43
spiderwormfyrebat: maybe apt-cache search X11  ......  and look for something that looks correctish06:43
mds\Fracture; is your install fully updated?06:43
msidthanx Frogzoo :)06:43
BitNinja707how do i start FTP on Breezy?06:43
mds\I had the same probs until I installed the latest06:43
patrick52222yey it worked cheers all06:44
arrick!RTFM06:44
ubotuarrick: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:44
fdesarMabus06: have a look at logcheck package. ssh logs thru syslog...06:44
spiderwormwhoa, lots of results06:44
CubiesI'm just wondering if I can still play my mass collection of mp3 albums I've ripped to my secondary harddrive.06:44
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Fracturemds\: yeah, I was using a fully updated breezy.  i've since switched to dapper (fully updated) and its actually been more stable !06:44
RubinMabus06: its not you. Every ip on the internet gets attacked.06:44
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RubinMabus06: if you choose good passwords, you can ignore it06:44
venkyok it is connected but says ssl support is needed06:44
venkyhow shud i install that06:44
mds\Fracture; is this a new machine?  new mobo etc?06:44
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arrick!mp306:44
ubotu[mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:44
RubinMabus06: short of that I reccomend a hosts.allow setup, or iptables rules, or maybe change what port ssh runs on06:44
sfar-ubu!sound06:44
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ubotuI heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary06:44
CubiesNifty!06:44
RubinMabus06: but mostly i suggest ignoring it06:44
Cubies!soda06:44
ubotuCubies: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:44
arrickCubies, read06:45
Cubies!pizza06:45
ubotuCubies: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:45
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spiderwormfyrebat: here you go:   libx11-dev    <---- prolly the package you're looking for06:45
arrick!mp306:45
ubotuI heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:45
Fracturemds\: new as at feb last year - amd 64 3500+ cpu, asus a8n-sli deluxe mobo06:45
CubiesIf in doubt, Wiki.06:45
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arrickyeah06:45
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CubiesI'm looking forward to using Unbuntu LiveCD for the very first time.06:45
CubiesYes! I am a Ubuntu virgin.06:46
arrickman I installed it so I could have it all the time, i liked it so well06:46
mds\I'm moving to dapper now since my hardware isn't properly recognized in breezy..  that might have been your problem too06:46
LinuxJonesCubies: you've used linux before though ?06:46
arrickdual booted with XP Pro06:46
CubiesNope.06:46
CubiesI'm a Windower.06:46
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LinuxJonesCubies: It jsut takes a little getting used to after a month you will probably not bother booting into windows unless your a gamer.06:46
CubiesI've used OSX before.06:46
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arrickyep06:47
Fracturemds\: yeah, I think so06:47
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Frogzoomp3s ate my doze partition ^_^06:47
Fracturemds\: though, i've still had a few FROZEN crashes06:47
rhalff_hi anyone experienced distorted video output with ogle in dapper ? I06:47
rhalff_and my know what could be the problem :)06:47
mds\well dapper isn06:48
arrickrhalff_, use the @ubuntu+106:48
rhalff_might06:48
mds\well dapper isn't stable yet :)06:48
CubiesI just need to find alternatives to, mIRC, Winamp and VideoLAN.06:48
nikiCubies, done, done, and done06:48
arrickyep06:48
seraphimxchat, xmms, vlc06:48
rhalff_arrick, what is the @ubuntu+!06:48
CubiesExellent.06:48
arrickmuch better in ubuntu06:48
niki_much_06:48
FractureCubies: mIrc -> gnome-xchat, winamp -> totem / vlc06:48
arrickthats the dapper support page06:48
oskudespiderworm, hmm, still -lavcodec and -lavformat no" ...06:48
rhalff_ah ok06:48
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CubiesSo many to choose from.06:48
doubletwistCubies : Winamp: xmms or beep media player; mirc: xchat, VideoLAN: VideoLan or gxine06:48
LinuxJonesCubies: vlc is available for linux, xchat-gnome and there are tons of music players06:48
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seraphimrhythmobox is the default music-player in ubuntu06:49
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spiderwormhmmm i wonder if we're gonna be able to get this working06:49
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CubiesI know the best software for Windows, but not for Linux.06:49
nikiCubies, get amarok, it's my favorite...but i have like 10 different ones installed :P06:49
doubletwistI've been using amarok for music though06:49
harisundtalking about music, I have GnuMP3D streaming my music. It streams in a .pls WinAmp playlist format06:49
budluvaanyone know if broadcom wireless drivers work out of the box in dapper?06:49
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C-O-L-T-AWAYHey something new in the ubuntu community?06:50
C-O-L-T-AWAY:D06:50
CubiesYes, me. :P06:50
nikihaha06:50
C-O-L-T-AWAYcool06:50
LinuxJonesbudluva: in dapper it's ready to use but I don't have a wireless network to test it on.06:50
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arrickhow do I get my external drive working in ubuntu, when it is ntfs partitions?06:50
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giany911u guys saw dapper drake screenshots?06:50
CubiesHit it with a hammer.06:50
giany911looks nice06:50
CubiesShouting profanities also helps.06:50
oskudespiderworm, i got it under hoary, with the same error... just cant remember what i did :)06:50
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budluvaLinuxJones, bcm43xx works out of the box?06:50
nikiarrick, i plugged mine in and rebooted06:50
arrickok, thanks06:50
arrickbrb06:50
nikiarrick, worked fine, there was an icon on the desktop for it06:50
arrickok06:50
Fractureanyone here managed to get a dvb card working on dapper ?06:50
niki:D06:50
spiderwormoskude: you begged it kindly?  you offered it money?06:51
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harisundpeople, how do you rate Dapper Drake against FC 5? I believe that is pretty good too..06:51
arrickthere was with the live cd, but not here, brb06:51
harisundOnly it comes on 5 CDs!06:51
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oskudespiderworm, i hacked it my self :)06:51
budluvaLinuxJones, did you just dist-upgrade to dapper?06:51
CubiesDon't belittle yourself by bribing harddrive into working for you06:51
spiderwormoskude: ah :)06:51
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CubiesBrute force and ignorance is the way forward.06:51
LinuxJonesbudluva: it's available in network-admin but just needs to be configured. I can't verify if it works though. I't uses the native kernel module from 2.1.16 tree.06:51
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RMeist006:51
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Cubies0106:52
CubiesWe talkin' in binary now?06:52
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budluvaLinuxJones, hrmm...ill have to check it and let you know06:52
LinuxJonesbudluva: I did a clean install yesterday and the installer found it automagically06:52
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CubiesHaha.06:52
CubiesAutomagically.06:52
budluvaLinuxJones, what about sound?06:52
CubiesYou crazy Linux people.06:52
niki:/06:53
thoreauputicCubies: and proud of it ! :)06:53
Cubies:D06:53
LinuxJonesbudluva: I have an Acer Aspire 5002 everything except for synaptics touchpad is working great06:53
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fyrebatspicerworm: thanx, just got your mssg, I"ll try libx11-dev06:53
budluvaLinuxJones, breezy see's my ac97 atiixp card and every thing seems ok, modules, sound volume, but still no sound on my lappy in breezy06:53
thoreauputic:)06:53
CubiesI'm just relified to not find you all talkin' in l33t speak.06:53
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LinuxJonesbudluva: what kind of laptop is it ?06:54
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mds\real 1337 ppl don't do that06:54
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thoreauputicCubies: l33t speak is really uncool around here ;)06:54
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budluvaLinuxJones, gateway mx752506:54
fyrebatspiderworm: thanx, just got your mssg, I"ll try libx11-dev06:54
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CubiesI'm glad the trend has passed.06:54
budluvaLinuxJones, my synaptics touchpad works out of the box in breezy06:54
oskudespiderworm, im now trying to compile the included ffmpeg with : ./configure --enable-gpl --enable-mp3lame --enable-libogg --enable-vorbis --enable-theora --enable-xvid06:54
athaydeHello, I've installed the ubuntu... I like so much of the distro that I'm gonna format my windows version06:54
doubletwistPersonally I consider properly spoken/written Enlish to be 'elite speak' :)06:54
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spiderwormfyrebat: sheesh, i wrote that three days ago.  try to keep up ;)06:54
spiderwormoskude: whoa you crazy flag man06:54
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thoreauputicdoubletwist: you just failed on a typo :)06:54
fyrebatspiderworm: heh, I was reading through that uber x11 list06:54
nikilol06:54
doubletwistoops06:55
CubiesLike using capitalisation and grammar?06:55
thoreauputicheh06:55
Fracturescan06:55
pulgokianyone here using swat in ubuntu and how to get it running without inetd?06:55
oskudespiderworm, you can have more if you like :) ./configure --help06:55
athaydeI've some musics into windows... How should I pick that musics and bring to ubuntu ? Can anyone help me with ?06:55
doubletwistGimme a break I'm splitting my time between two keybards, and watching a video intently. :)P06:55
spiderwormoskude: sure why not, let's pile them all on06:55
thoreauputicCubies: capitalisation is going too far06:55
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XVampireXathayde, you'll need to access your windows file system06:55
spiderwormlet's see if the --fast-math flag will work :)06:55
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CubiesI'm must be ultra elite to you people.06:56
oskudespiderworm, :) i thought for starters we could use mp3/ogg and theora/xvid06:56
XVampireXathayde, what file system are you using?06:56
athaydeXVampireX,  fat3206:56
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LinuxJonesbudluva: let me see if i can find some info06:56
XVampireXOh06:56
CubiesI know where the 'shift' key is on my keyboard.06:56
CubiesI'm so elite.06:56
Mabus06q06:56
XVampireXI know I was able to use NTFS but I don't know about FAT3206:56
harisund_Cubies, I know where both the shift keys are !06:56
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CubiesThere's two???06:56
Cubies:O06:56
spiderwormathayde: what are you trying to do?06:56
thoreauputicCubies: wow - and you don't have it stuck on capslock!06:56
seraphimyou can use fat32 better than ntfs06:56
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CubiesXD06:57
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doubletwistCubies Yeah, two AND a capslock!06:57
Enthusiast78Any clue how do I set postfix to use smarthost with authentication?06:57
Eleafhihi06:57
CubiesI do, do annoying smilies though.06:57
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athaydespiderworm, bring my musics to ubuntu06:57
spiderwormathayde: MP3s on a windows drive or partition I take it?06:57
doubletwistAnd too many commas apparrently. :)06:57
thoreauputicCubies:  ^_^06:57
harisund_So cubiues, what other elite stuff do you know?06:57
Cubies^.^06:57
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msidFrogzoo: how can i start the smartd daemons from /etc/inid.t/ on boot ?06:57
oskudespiderworm, ffmpeg seems to compile fine (well, some "minor" warnings)06:57
giany911hey dudes where are firefox bookmarks saved ?06:57
CubiesYou, can never, have too, many, commas.06:57
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athaydespiderworm, on a partition when I need take it06:58
spiderwormathayde: cd /media/06:58
FredeFuphave a problem with my wireless connection. I've managed to set up the wpa_supplicant, I'm using WPA encryption. Everything looks fine, the key is auth'ed, I get an IP adress from my DHCP. But the network is just not working. I'm not receiving anything. Any ideas on the next step in my troubleshooting?06:58
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doubletwistCubies Not if you want to look like you're William Shatner!06:58
spiderwormathayde: then do a "ls" in there06:58
harisund_giany911, you can export your firefox books to a file..06:58
athaydeok06:58
spiderwormathayde: what do you have in /media ?06:58
CubiesFrom Star Trek?06:58
doubletwistYes from Star Trek.06:58
nikiCubies, that would be him...06:58
harisund_But other wise, they can be found in ~/.mozilla I think. In there you will find another folder06:58
CubiesI... Can't seem to... Use the... Machine.06:58
athaydecdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  windows06:58
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giany911harisund i wanna load my bookmarks ..and i dont know where to put the file06:58
msidhow can i add something to run on boot from /etc/init.d ?06:58
arrickniki: I rebooted, and cant view the contents?06:58
harisund_Oh, you can go to Firefox, bookmarks, manage bookmarks06:59
harisund_And then import them from an external file06:59
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harisund_msid, look up a command named update-rc.d06:59
spiderwormathayde: cd /media/windows06:59
nikiarrick, make sure it's mounted06:59
CubiesI know how to abbreviate video game titles into letters.06:59
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CubiesFFXII.06:59
nikiarrick, mine mounted automatically06:59
harisund_giyan911, did you get what I was trying to say>?06:59
arrickhow do you mount?06:59
spiderwormathayde: that should be your windows drive... take a look around and copy the files over06:59
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CubiesWith antisipation.07:00
MenZaCubies: Final Fantasy Twelve?07:00
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CubiesYes.07:00
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MenZaCongrats.07:00
nikiarrick, it's mount /dev/yourdevice i think :P07:00
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giany911harisund loud and clear ty07:00
seraphimTo mount a FAT 32 partition with Read/Write permissions, do this: "sudo mount /dev/hdd# /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"07:00
harisund_Great !07:00
nikiarrick, sudo07:00
athaydeokay07:00
msidharisund: thanks07:00
Fracturei've installed my dvb driver, yet I don't have a device /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend007:00
davidmoore83heh - sat here smug that i am running XP in Ubuntu :)07:00
CubiesI get cookies for being elite.07:00
CubiesThat is elite07:00
harisund_msid, you know about run levels, right?07:00
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ZuninoHello. Could anybody help me in installing the cvs package? I haven't been able to do it because as I run 'sudo apt-get install cvs', apt-get requests me to insert the Breezy installation CDROM, which I don't have with me. Thank you.07:00
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giany911now ..about something else ..can anyone help me install my tuner?07:00
LinuxJonesbudluva: there may be some info here >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=42135407:00
harisund_YOu will need to know about them if you want to add scripts to startup...07:00
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venkyi am not able to install SSh for gaim07:00
venkydont kow whats the issue07:01
budluvaLinuxJones, thanks bro07:01
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IamEthoswhich compiler should I use?07:01
CubiesI read SSH as, sssshshhhhhhh.07:01
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thoreauputicCubies: claiming to be elite disqualifies your eliteness by definition ;-)07:01
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venkyya SSH sorry07:01
IamEthosto compile kxdocker07:01
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IamEthosit needs a c compiler07:01
CubiesC#07:01
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spiderwormathayde: of course, instead of using the command line, now that you know where the windows drive is mounted on your ubuntu OS, you can use the file browser to copy the files over07:01
maczekhello everybody, this is maczek from poland speaking :)07:01
CubiesThen how would people know I'm elite?07:01
gnomefreakIamEthos: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:01
doubletwistZunino: You can remove the cdrom entry from /etc/apt/sources.list either manually or using synaptic. Then do 'sudo apt-get update' [or use synaptic to update]  and it should stop asking for the cd.07:02
nikihello, maczek from poland07:02
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ubuntuspiderworm,  MM07:02
ubuntuyes07:02
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thoreauputicCubies: by your actions and knowledge?07:02
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fyrebatspiderworm: ah, I thought it was working- I'm installing wine, and it was installing for a long time. Then it aborted the install with the message "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext"07:02
Zuninodoubletwist, thank you very much. I will give it a shot.07:02
CubiesI'll wear a crown.07:02
spiderwormubuntu: eh?07:02
harisund_Wow ! There is so much activity going on at any given time, how do people keep track without going nuts?07:02
athaydespiderworm,   apt-get search mplayer07:02
athayde this is right ?07:02
doubletwistharisund_ read faster :)07:02
spiderwormfyrebat: how are you going about installing wine?07:02
thoreauputicharisund: this is quiet07:02
nikiharisund, you pretty much have to address the person you're talking to by name :D07:02
doubletwistyeah that too.07:03
davidmoore83harisund buy typing names so things highlight07:03
harisund_Wow ! cool..07:03
nikiawesome! yeah!07:03
harisund_things highlight? Which IRC client is that?07:03
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harisund_I am using irssi through the command line .07:03
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spiderwormathayde: if you want to install mplayer, use synaptic .... it's in the menu System > Administration07:03
nikiharisund, i'm using xchat, it highlights07:03
CubiesPeople will know I'm elite when I load Unbuntu.07:03
athaydeok07:03
fyrebatspiderworm: I downloaded a wine folder, then from command line I type: "./tools/wineinstall07:03
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davidmoore83harisund xchat07:03
harisund_Xchat. Ok.. will try that ..thanks a lot !07:03
spiderwormfyrebat: oh dearie me07:03
CubiesThen will go "Ooooooh!" 'cos they will think I know Linux.07:03
spiderwormfyrebat: one sec07:03
IamEthosconfigure: error: Can't find X includes.  Please check your installation and add the correct paths!07:03
IamEthosI got that07:03
thoreauputicharisund: irssi also hightlights if so configured07:03
fyrebatspiderworm: k07:03
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harisund_It does? Hmm.. ok guys, I will be signing off for a while and checking out how to configure irssi..07:04
IamEthosCubuies: Ubuntu is remarkably easy to install07:04
XVampireXWoops.... for a moment I thought Wine was a DirectX Layer for Linux.... turns out it's a Windows Layer...07:04
nikiharisund, hasta!07:04
harisund_see ya soon !07:04
davidmoore83yh harisund without highlight IRC is a sod07:04
IamEthosthat's sort of the idea behind it07:04
spiderwormgood gollie there is a lot of help for noobs that needs to happen in here07:04
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CubiesOn what kind of partition?07:04
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doubletwistI don't have highlighting set up in Bitchx which I'm using now.07:04
thoreauputicharisund: try typing /help in irssi :)07:04
IamEthosno one will think you're leet07:04
CubiesCan I use NTFS partition?07:04
nikiCubies, as read-only07:04
CubiesYes they will.07:04
IamEthos(shudder- I hate saying things like that.)07:05
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spiderwormfyrebat: go to this page: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb  .... there's instructions there for getting the precompiled binaries using apt & synaptic07:05
doubletwistI'm too 'leet' to require highlighting. Yeah that's what it is! [not] 07:05
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Cubies'Cos you're lieing.07:05
IamEthosI'm pretty sure you can't instally it on an NTFS partition07:05
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zaibiechuwhat is "ppklite.api"07:05
athaydespiderworm, I can't find any packet for mplayer07:05
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spiderwormfyrebat: basically you need to add some repos, then update, then install wine with synaptic07:05
CubiesFAT32?07:05
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nikino, you can't install on ntfs or fat3207:05
gitanitahelloooooooooooooooooooo07:05
IamEthosoh07:05
IamEthosthat's right07:05
CubiesHummm.07:05
Zuninodoubletwist: that did the trick; I have now successfully installed cvs from a network repository. Thanks again.07:06
IamEthosbecause it needs to create a root user07:06
maczekguys, I need some help regarding the ati radeon 9550 xorg.conf file. Is there anybody who can help me?07:06
IamEthosand fat32 doesn't support users07:06
doubletwistZunino No problem, glad I could help.07:06
nikibecause it needs to be installed on a linux partition :P07:06
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zaibiechuthere was an error while loading the plug-in 'ppklite.api' the plutin failed to initialize07:06
IamEthosor permissions07:06
nikior something lol07:06
zaibiechuwhat shall i do07:06
gitanitahola soy yo!!!07:06
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CubiesWhat kind of Linux partition?07:06
spiderwormathayde: yeah it looks like i cant find it either07:06
gitanitay ella07:06
Cubies(I only know Windows relation stuff.)07:06
IamEthosext307:06
gitanitatu y ella07:06
athayde"sudo mount /dev/hdd# /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"07:06
gitanitake pasaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa07:06
oskudespiderworm, yeah, i have "yes" in lavcodec :)07:06
spiderwormathayde: what do you want mplayer for?  playing music or watching videos or what?07:06
gitanitanadie habla07:06
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athaydethat command doesn't work07:06
gitanitake sois inglexses07:06
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thoreauputicgitanita: stop please07:06
spiderwormoskude: nice!  what did you have to do07:07
athaydespiderworm,  both07:07
CubiesCool.07:07
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ZuninoA second question: what's the right package or packages to get in order to be able to play WMV files properly?07:07
athaydebut first listening some musics07:07
fromvegaWhere can I read how to create a cron job?07:07
spiderwormathayde: for music, try apt-get install amarok07:07
gitanitayo stop07:07
jenda!es07:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:07
gitanitahola leyenda07:07
IamEthosCubies: if you want to dual boot, I suggest you find a program like partition magic to resize your NTFS partition non-destructively and create an ext3 partition07:07
fyrebatspiderworm: I installed ubuntu last week, so plz excuse my ignorance. What is a repo, and what is synaptic?07:07
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gitanitahola07:07
CubiesI've got Partition Magic.07:07
ubuntufyrebat,  why do you hl me ?07:07
CubiesAlso got two partitions.07:07
GigaClon!tell gitanita about es07:08
maczekdoes anybody use Ati Radeon 9550 card?07:08
fyrebatubunu: hl?07:08
oskudespiderworm, i compiled the included ffmpeg in its directory with long command i gave, and then make in it directory too, and then back to xvidcap dir and "make gvidcap"07:08
wd3where can i find the codec to play all formats in totem, vlc? pretty much all the players?07:08
IamEthoscubies: if you want to go linux all the way, just format your whole drive, delete the NTFS partition and create ext307:08
CubiesJust didn't know what to format the second partition to, so I decided to download Unbuntu LiveCD for now.07:08
CubiesThankies.07:08
nikiCubies, what IamEthos said07:08
IamEthosback up your data because you will lose anything on a partition when you change it's format07:08
spiderwormoskude: i think i just passed out.  you did what???07:08
hawaisurfhi! I have a problem with my mouse cursor....is changing from white to black sometimes I want to avoid this changes how can I set it ?07:08
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gitanitake dices ?07:08
gitanitaeske soy espaola07:08
spiderwormoskude: any chance you'll just send my your binary? :)  i'm on an intel architecture here...07:08
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CubiesMy mouse cursor used to change into a black squre.07:09
thoreauputicgitanita: per favor, /join #ubuntu-es07:09
Cubiessquare07:09
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spiderwormgitanita: espanola o gitana?  cual eres07:09
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oskudespiderworm, i have error atm, but if/when i get it done, why not...07:09
doubletwistspiderworm Don't think you want to trust random binaries from folks on IRC :)07:09
maczekdoes anybody use Ati Radeon 9550 card? I need an example of xorg.conf file07:09
IamEthosCubies: ext3 is what you should go with, I prefer to use PM if I'm keeping windows just because I feel safer, but allegedly you can do all of that in the Ubuntu installer as well07:09
spiderwormdoubletwist: yes i do07:09
spiderwormoskude: thank you dude07:09
wd3where can i find w32 codecs in synaptic?07:09
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CubiesUbuntu duel boots, yes?07:10
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arrickI have a external drive, connected by USB with ntfs partition and when I click on the icon it says I don not have the necessary permissions to view the files on 'usb0', any help07:10
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gitanitaholaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa07:10
gitanitahelloooooooooooooooooo07:10
mario123hola07:10
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jenda!ops07:10
ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee07:10
Tripkehi all07:10
gitanitahola mario07:10
arrickquit writing unecessary junk07:10
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hawaisurfhi anybody knows how to fix the color set for the mouse cursor??07:10
nikifinally07:10
CubiesAlmost forgot.07:10
CubiesHay niki you so fine, you so fine you blow my mind.07:10
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doubletwisthawaisurf Sorry can't help you07:11
Tripkeall ubuntu users ?07:11
Amaranth__!es07:11
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:11
CubiesNo.07:11
jendaTripke: most probably07:11
CubiesI use Winblows.07:11
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davidmoore83oh crap! i have just installed all my software and made ubuntu look good and now i need to change the kernal!07:11
Josh43Can anyone tell me where to find the setting so that my files and folders are NOT sorted with caps first?07:11
maczek I need an example of xorg.conf file with Ati radeon 9550 card - can you help me?07:11
hawaisurfdoubletwist: ok :)07:11
Tripkejenda: u know alot about ubuntu ?07:11
nikium...07:11
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Tripkei buyed a wifi and it aint working07:11
CubiesIs a Kernal like a Cherrif?07:11
IamEthosI'm installing kxdocker on ubuntu, can anyone help me out?07:12
arrickno07:12
jendaTripke: there are others who know more - about wifi, I know nothing at all.07:12
davidmoore83Cubies: do you not use linux?07:12
IamEthosI'm having trouble with the whole compiling process07:12
nikilame07:12
CubiesNever used it before.07:12
CubiesI am a Linux virgin.07:12
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IamEthosCubies: a kernel is like the basic component of the operating system07:12
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davidmoore83Cubies: why are you in the ubuntu support channel then?07:12
CubiesCos I use Windows.07:13
mabusHow do you change your username in irssi? Not your nickname but the username.07:13
jendahow do I grep to find out which files contain a string? (nto which lines, just the files)07:13
IamEthosdavidmoore83: he's thinking of switching to Ubuntu07:13
Tripkemy wifi card aint working -> got level one wpc030007:13
Josh43jenda, Probabyly: cat files|grep thing07:13
davidmoore83IamEthos: ah ok, surely he should just dual boot and actually try it instead of watching text here :)07:13
CubiesJust gotta burn Unbuntu LiveCD to a CD now.07:13
XVampireXI'm running on a Live CD right now :P07:13
CubiesI was waiting for it to download.07:13
Cubieso.o07:13
davidmoore83Cubies: yeah get it done! :)07:14
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IamEthosyeah, try the LiveCD first Cubies07:14
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IamEthosif you like that07:14
jmartinijenda: grep files string07:14
darkriserjenda, grep works with filesw directly07:14
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XVampireXUbuntu rocks!07:14
oskudespiderworm, now i get the expact same error as you :)07:14
nikiCubies, if you are just here for chat, there is a #ubuntu-offtopic channel that is perfect for that :)07:14
wd3command for automount cdrw = dev/hdb and dvd = dev/hdd ?07:14
IamEthos(or think you might like it) then try dual booting Ubuntu07:14
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davidmoore83Cubies: i have windows running in ubuntu ;)07:14
CubiesI'd love a PC that can go faster than I can use it.07:14
Frogzoojenda: grep -H07:14
arrickhaha07:14
no8hlXVampireX,  no.gentoo rocks/07:14
XVampireXVery easy to use and has most programs you need07:14
IamEthosif you still like it, you can go all the way07:14
wd3davidmoore83,  how?07:14
arrickCubies, I never have gotten that07:14
jendathanks Frogzoo s that's what i needed.07:14
IamEthoswhich is actually easier than dual booting07:14
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IamEthosso you should be prepped for that07:15
Josh43no8hl, Then why are you ni the ubuntu channel?07:15
davidmoore83wd3: vmware with 1 core for XP and 1GB ram allocated ;)07:15
CubiesCan't I talk general chat here?07:15
oskudespiderworm, ok that was because i didnt use "make gvidcap" i did just "make"07:15
XVampireXYe, why? :P07:15
arricknope07:15
wd3davidmoore83, wow07:15
thoreauputicCubies:  #ubuntu-offtopic07:15
nikiCubies, to an extent...but this is a support channel :)07:15
arrickthis is a support channel07:15
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thoreauputicCubies: this is a support channel07:15
nikiwhew07:15
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AskHLmabus, how about /set user_name newname07:15
IamEthosno8hl: Ubuntu just rocks differently than Gentoo07:15
fyrebatspiderworm: thanx for all your help man, I gotta go, but I'll read up on that site link you gave me07:15
arrickI have a external drive, connected by USB with ntfs partition and when I click on the icon it says I don not have the necessary permissions to view the files on 'usb0', any help07:15
maczekhello, can anyone help me regarding ati 9550 problem?07:15
wd3davidmoore83, do u know command in term to automount my cdrw and dvd on startup?07:16
IamEthosUbuntu rocks in that friendly "human" easy to install sort of way07:16
ekokIs there some one, who is good in java?07:16
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Josh43Cubies, It;s better to stay on topic to the channel you are in, otherwise there would be no point in having different channels at all07:16
IamEthosGentoo rocks in that do anything you want, 3 months to fully install kind of way07:16
IamEthosfrom what I hear07:16
Josh43lol07:16
AskHLekok, if it does not have anything to do with ubuntu I recommend the quakenet #java channel07:16
davidmoore83wd3: nope but i have seen somthing about it on the forum search that07:16
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Josh43Can anyone tell me where to find the setting so that my files and folders are NOT sorted with caps first?07:16
davidmoore83IamEthos: you can install in 2hrs07:17
darkriserwd3: edit /etc/fstab file07:17
IamEthosdavidmoore83: I know, I was exagerating, but I've heard it's a pain in the ass07:17
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rohan_bishti am having prob. in  multithreading using  python ... error:can't start new thread can anyone tell how to solve this07:17
davidmoore83IamEthos: not in the new 2006.0 release its a GUI07:17
IamEthosinstalling Gentoo is like the Rubiks Cube of the linux world07:17
ekokthanx AskHL07:17
IamEthosoh really?07:17
IamEthoswow07:17
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davidmoore83IamEthos: yup - i am giving it a few months then i will try it07:18
Seveasdavidmoore83, IamEthos: please take off-topic discussions elsewhere07:18
Seveasthis channel is for ubuntu support07:18
arrickI have a external drive, connected by USB with ntfs partition and when I click on the icon it says I don not have the necessary permissions to view the files on 'usb0', any help07:18
mabusHow do you change your username in irssi? Not your nickname but the username.07:18
IamEthosSeveas: whoops, sorry, we started sort of on-topic07:18
Profichilladavidmoore83, but the GUI is kind of broken.07:18
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FreshPrincemoin07:18
davidmoore83Profichilla: worked ok for me on a mates machine - anyway its not support talk so shuhs ;)07:19
davidmoore83*shush07:19
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rohan_bishtcan anyone tell where shud i put queries related to python07:19
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roicohow can i use my tv-out with my fx5200 on ubuntu?07:20
Sprawlciao a tutti07:20
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doubletwistrohan_bisht in #python perhaps?07:20
athaydespiderworm, have you find any answer ?07:20
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[FR33_B33R] !beer07:20
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mongiehi fuys07:20
[FR33_B33R] okay.. anyone here has JACK working?07:21
mongieguys07:21
roico!beer07:21
oskudespiderworm, i gotta get some food :) ill try later more...07:21
[FR33_B33R] hahha07:21
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arrickI need to get my external usb drive working07:21
[FR33_B33R] everyone wants beer!07:21
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mongiedoes anyone here, know how to make a script that makes a wget like 100 times, changing just the filename?07:21
roico!beer07:21
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[FR33_B33R] alright... getting back to some serious stuff....07:21
arrick!off Topic07:21
ubotuarrick: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:21
roicohow can i use my tv-out with my fx5200 on ubuntu?07:22
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mongie4 example: wget www.g.com/1.jpg , wget www.g.com/2.jpg , etc07:22
arrick!external07:22
ubotuI guess external is For installing to external USB drives, the MAY WORK for you. You have been warned. Read the instructions and requirements carefully.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8081107:22
thoreauputicmongie: just put the url s in a file and use the -i flage07:22
thoreauputic*flag07:22
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IamEthoswho develops synaptic?07:22
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spiderwormoskude: thats fine dude07:22
mongiethoreauputic, would you explain it a litte bit more?07:22
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[FR33_B33R] j_ack, can you help me with JACK audio connection kit?07:22
[FR33_B33R] hahhha07:23
thoreauputicmongie: it's in the manual - but basically -i tells wget to look inthe file you specify07:23
XVampireXBy the way people, for those of you who want a good website to download linux stuff manually: http://linux.softpedia.com07:23
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[FR33_B33R] !jack07:23
ubotu[FR33_B33R] : I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:23
[FR33_B33R] !asla07:23
ubotu[FR33_B33R] : Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:23
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[FR33_B33R] !alsa07:23
ubotuI guess alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix07:23
pinkisntwellI see nvidia has released a new version of their driver, should I install it? it's not in the repos07:23
mongiethoreauputic, but i mean, i wanna see pics from my friends07:23
mongiethat are stored as follows:  www.g.com/1/1.jpg07:24
rohan_bishthey i m new to this so pls help me out n tell me where should i put my python related queries07:24
thoreauputicmongie: so you just create a file with the URLs and point wget at it07:24
mongiewww.g.com/1/2.jpg07:24
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Frogzoo[FR33_B33R] : please just /msg the bot instead of messing in the chan07:24
roicohow can i use my tv-out with my fx5200 on ubuntu?07:24
[FR33_B33R] Frogzoo, okay... sorry07:24
mongielike in c it was: www.g.com/i/j,jpg07:24
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mongiewhere 1 goes from 1 to 10007:24
mongieand j, from 1 to 3007:24
fromvegaI'm trying to execute a CLI PHP file, but I'm receiving this message: /usr/bin/php^M: bad interpreter: No shuch file or directory.   I'm using this at the top of the script #!/usr/bin/php07:24
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giany911hey how can i edit a .txt07:25
thoreauputic[FR33_B33R] : on the verge of botabuse you are...07:25
giany911i mean whats the console command ?07:25
rodrigoFrogzoo, try "whereis php"07:25
[FR33_B33R] thoreauputic, not quite yet! :D07:25
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HiTech69giany911, vim or gedit probably07:25
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fromvegarodrigo: php: /usr/bin/php /usr/bin/X11/php ...07:26
Seveas!forget sirex07:26
ubotui forgot sirex, Seveas07:26
Seveas!forget sirex207:26
ubotuSeveas: i forgot sirex207:26
giany911hitech69 ty i was writing gpedit :))07:26
Seveas!forget Karlprof07:26
ubotui forgot karlprof, Seveas07:26
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Seveas!forget some files07:26
ubotuSeveas: i forgot some files07:26
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rodrigoFrogzoo, so, delete ^M07:26
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rohan_bishti m having prob. in python somebody help07:26
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Seveas^-- that is what happens if you abuse the bot07:27
fromvegarodrigo: I do not know from where this ^M is comming from07:27
monica82thoreauputic, u know?07:27
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HiTech69lol07:27
[FR33_B33R] oh... and i had gotten really close :D07:27
sire1Seveas: what?07:27
rodrigofromvega, from copy&paste07:27
fromvegatks07:27
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Seveasthat.07:27
fromvegarodrigo: what is this ^M?07:27
monica82thoreauputic, i just do not want to type all the numbers, i'ma lazy girl ^^07:27
fromvegarodrigo: what does it mean?07:27
rodrigofromvega, its like <enter>07:28
jmartinifromvega: That is the carriage return07:28
fromvegarodrigo: where are you from?07:28
thoreauputicmonica82: you can write a bash script to do it for you....07:28
[FR33_B33R] umm... would JACK work if i was a woman?07:28
jmartinifromvega: windows uses a CRNL for end of line and unix just uses NL07:28
[FR33_B33R] :D07:28
rodrigofromvega, brasil07:28
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monica82thoreauputic, that's what i want! where can i look to learn how to do it?07:28
thoreauputicmonica82: heh - but I guess you don't want that either :)07:28
fromvegarodrigo: from where in Brazil?07:28
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rodrigofromvega, sao paulo07:28
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thoreauputicmonica82: bash scripting?07:28
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monica82www.google.com07:29
thoreauputicmonica82: I'll see if I can find a URL07:29
rodrigofromvega, u?07:29
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fromvegarodrigo: I'm from Campinas.07:29
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rodrigofromvega, oh, ok... Im from Bauru... not near.... :p07:30
thoreauputicmonica82:  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html07:30
monica82thoreauputic, must not be ery hard, no?07:30
arrickhow do I view an ntfs partition in ubuntu?07:30
fromvegarodrigo: ;)07:30
rohan_bishtNEED HELP07:30
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rohan_bishtIN PYTHON07:30
Seveas!yell07:30
ubotucaps is, like, FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.07:30
darkrisermonica82, http://www.linuxcommand.org/07:30
Seveas!no caps is <reply> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.07:31
ubotuokay, Seveas07:31
Frogzoo!tell arrick about ntfs07:31
doubletwistrohan_bisht As I suggested, you're more likely to get good python help in #python07:31
monica8207:31
monica8207:31
monica82            #!/bin/bash07:31
monica82            STR="Hello World!"07:31
monica82            echo $STR07:31
monica82like thart07:31
monica82lol07:31
arrickthanks Frogzoo07:31
thoreauputicmonica82: it's as hard as you want to make it :)07:31
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rohan_bishthow to move to #python07:31
sylvain_#ubuntu-fr07:31
rohan_bishtdoubletwist07:31
thoreauputicmonica82: *cough* don't paste please07:31
doubletwistrohan_bisht type  /join #python07:31
Seveasmonica82, don't paste in here. ever.07:31
monica82sorrry07:32
monica82really sorry guys07:32
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thoreauputicmonica82: with a smile :)07:32
Seveasthoreauputic, you're not ubotu 07:32
jmartinimonica82: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ tp paste07:32
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monica82nah, i won't paste again07:32
monica82lol07:32
thoreauputicSeveas: did you get hit by a windmill?07:32
monica82easier07:32
oskudespiderworm, i just did "./configure && make clean && make" in the ffmpeg dir and then compiled gvidcap again with "./configure --with-gtk2 --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg && make clean && make gvidcap. compiled and runs, ill test more after i had something to eat, back in 15min or so...07:33
Seveasthoreauputic, some people juggle gees...07:33
Seveasgeese even07:33
rohan_bishtnothing is happening doubletwist07:33
doubletwisthaha07:33
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doubletwistrohan_bisht What irc client are you using?07:33
[FR33_B33R] umm... for the last time... has anyone gotten JACK audio connection kit working?07:33
mike-ehow do i turn off these drum sounds every time i click something in ubuntu07:33
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doubletwistSeveas good episode :)07:33
thoreauputic:)07:33
rohan_bishtx chat 2.4.407:34
monica82how can i make a variable?07:34
rohan_bishtdoubletwist07:34
monica82X=1?07:34
monica82por example07:34
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thoreauputic[FR33_B33R] : evidently not...07:34
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[FR33_B33R] mike-e, system>>preferences>>sounds>>Sound Events07:34
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monica82and invoking it as: $X07:34
monica82?07:34
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doubletwistrohan_bisht It's been awhile since I used xchat but I think when you type /join #python it should create a new Tab for that channel.07:34
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Seveasmonica82, first you get 2 parent variables and then you call the mate function to make new ones07:34
monica82Seveas, slooooooowly guy07:34
monica82lol07:34
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jmartinidoubletwist: #python requires an identified nick07:35
thoreauputicSeveas: but you ge an endless loop that way...07:35
doubletwistjmartini Oh, didn't realize that.07:35
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Seveasmonica82, if you seek bash scripting help: search for the "advanced bash scripting guide" on tldp.org07:35
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monica82i don  want advanced bash scripting07:35
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Frogzoolistvalues07:35
monica82just want to make a lil script, veeeeeery easy07:35
Frogzoooops07:35
thoreauputicmonica82: I gave you a link to a basic one07:35
doubletwistrohan_bisht Guess you'll have to register your nick with Nickserv07:35
veninhi ppl07:35
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lamegomonica82, what do you want to do ?07:35
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veninanyone got an url or something for a new kernel in .deb? :)07:36
Seveasmonica82, the absg starts with easy scripts ;)07:36
pinkisntwellI see nvidia has released a new version of their driver, should I install it? it's not in the repos07:36
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monica82that dowloads   "wget  www.g.com/%i/%j.jpg"07:36
monica82changing i and j07:36
spiderwormoskude: cool!07:36
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rohan_bishti dont know wat to do now its not happening07:37
lamegomonica82, $i=something;$j=another;wget "www.g.com$i/$j.jpg"07:37
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monica82conditionals go, with []   instead of brakets?07:37
doubletwistrohan_bisht You have to register your nick with nickserv [type /msg nickserv help07:37
piernikeach time i start tethereal i  get error "Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted" how to fix it?07:37
monica82lamego, yeah, but i want to increase i & j07:37
lamegomonica82, get a shell scripting tutorial, not advanced, basic :)07:38
veninwhen i used fedora there were lots of precompiled kernels in .rpm .. why isnt there any for ubuntu? im googling but cant find07:38
rohan_bisht[type /msg nickserv help07:38
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thoreauputicvenin: apt-cache search linux-image07:38
monica82lamego, i'm looking in wich thoreauputic said07:38
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monica82but i do not want to read a whoooole guide07:39
aeolisttake me to your leader!07:39
monica82for that stupid script07:39
monica82lol07:39
veninuhm07:39
veninthoreauputic, uhm, then what? i have 2.6.12-907:39
Dr_Willisegads having to read a whold guide!07:39
Dr_Willis:P07:39
monica82lol07:40
monica82laaaaaaazy girl07:40
thoreauputicvenin: just type that then decide which one you want and install it07:40
veninthoreauputic, i see nothing newer07:40
monica82beaaaaaaaautiful day outside07:40
monica82mix everything...07:40
Dr_Willismonica82,  wet and cold here.07:40
Eleaflol07:40
Eleafsureee07:40
veninthoreauputic, yeh, but there rnt any newer than the kernel i already have07:40
thoreauputicvenin: if you want a later kernel, install dapper07:40
lamegomonica82, i=`expr $i + 1`; echo $i07:41
Frogzoovenin: 2.6.12-10-68607:41
veninlinux-image-2.6.12-9-38607:41
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venini was thinking of installing a newer kernel since my cpu scaling doesnt work07:41
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monica82lamego, i do not understand really that, that is equal to i=i++?07:41
thoreauputicvenin: ubuntu stays with one version for 6 months except for security updates07:41
OmniColosis anyone here using video with ekiga?07:41
lamegomonger, thats equal to: i++;07:41
venini c07:41
truz24how can I send the results of "find" to "ls"?07:41
doubletwistAnyone here have experience using firewire as a network connection? [using eth1394]  in Ubuntu?07:41
nubbeDoes firestarter changes persist, or should it be started at every boot/login?07:41
lamegoops i mean monica8207:41
rohan_bishtdoubletwist its saying nickname rohan_bisht is already registered07:42
monica82lamego, cool07:42
darkrisernubbe, persist07:42
thoreauputicnubbe: it starts by default in the background07:42
harisundtruz24, what are you trying to do?07:42
lamegomonger, using expr you can do math on the shell07:42
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lamegogrr, i mean monica8207:42
harisundI didn't quite understand your question, truz2407:42
doubletwistI tried it the other day and I could assign an IP address, but as soon as I tried to ping from the ubuntu box to the debian box [the other system with firewire] , the ubuntu box would hard freeze instantly.07:42
veninthoreauputic, so dynamic scaling should work on this version of my kernel?07:42
truz24find files in a directory that have a certain modified time ( modified in 2005 ) and i want to see what files find found07:42
budluvaanyone here ever had a k3b error where it fails to change write speed?07:42
thoreauputicvenin: no idea, sorry07:42
doubletwistrohan_bisht Then either you've registered before and need to log in, or you will need to pick another nickname.07:43
harisundYou can simply use the find command with the right switches. It automatically lists the files, right?07:43
truz24I can get the list... but it only shows the file name and not the modified date.07:43
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[FR33_B33R] hid3, where can i edit the alsa configuration file?07:43
monica82lamego, and how, i use the variable in a commmand? i mean wget www.g.com/VARIABLE.jpg07:43
truz24Find does not seem to have an option to print the file's modified date.07:43
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harisundtruz24 you can do ls -l `find ...`07:44
nubbedarkriser, ok thanks07:44
doubletwisttruz24 or find ... -exec ls -l () \;07:44
harisundah ! -exec.. that is correct, thanks doubletwist07:44
nubbethoreauputic, not as far as I can see07:44
truz24the ls -l `find...` method worked.07:44
truz24Are there negative reprocussions to that method?07:45
Frogzootruz24: man find -> -newer07:45
darkrisernubbe, firestarter service starts automatically, frontend on demand07:45
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harisundtruz24, I am not sure that's the right method (though it did work this time around)07:45
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lamegotruz24, its the correct method07:45
harisundI think it will only work if you are in the same directory as the one you are searching, and files are not within a sub directory07:45
doubletwistTHat eth1394 issue is driving me nuts.07:45
lamegoit will workg with ls no matter the place07:45
harisundOh really? thanks for that lamego.07:46
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harisundWill remember it next time (both lamego and truz24)07:46
lamegonp :)07:46
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truz24thx07:46
doubletwistharisund yeah because find gives the full path so you're list ls'ing the full path07:46
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nubbedarkriser, what's it called?  ps aux | grep fire  gives me only firefox stuff...07:47
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Frogzoonubbe: sudo iptables -L -v07:47
lamp_does anyone know what i must change to my /etc/X11/xorg for a lcd monitor,07:47
Frogzoo!tell lamp_ about xorg07:48
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lamp_i don't get the question in with dpkg07:49
lamegolamp_, the best configuration depends on your LCD specification07:49
monica82lamego, ?07:49
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lamegothe reconfigure will try to guess the best options07:49
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Frogzoolamp_: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'07:50
lamegomonica82, see the private, this is not a shell scripting channel :P07:50
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monica82lamego, i already told u in the private.. i am waiting...07:50
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lamp_idd i know that one07:50
venin * Starting powernowd...  * CPU frequency scaling not supported07:50
veninany ideas?07:50
lamegomonica82, didn't got any message...07:50
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monica82they are being blocked07:51
LabThugOk, I know head does the first part of a file and tail does the last.  Is there anything that can extract the middle of a file (i.e. mid StartLine EndLine FileName)?07:51
monica82cuz i am not a registered user07:51
lamegobad luck :P07:51
monica82...07:51
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lamegoLabThug, you can specify the offsset with tal or head and get the middle07:51
lamegooffset07:51
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whaley_workusing apt-get/apt-cache, is there a way I can try to find previous versions of a package?07:51
LabThuglamego: I know, I'm trying to avoid that (it's slow)07:51
whaley_workit doesn't seem obvious from the man pages07:51
doubletwistlamp_ I think you can try xorgconfig [I think? ]  to reconfigure it too, although it doesn't do any autodetection.07:52
lamegoLabThug, using head the is best you can do, there is no way to get a particular line without walking over the file...07:52
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arrickFrogzoo, I followed the link you gave me earlier, and still no access to the usb external drive, it says I don't have permission to view it. Any help?07:52
doubletwistLabThug You might be able to use sed too.07:52
monica82thoreauputic, really can't findd where to start...07:52
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arrickFrogzoo, although I now can access the xp partition on the hda now07:53
jmartinimonica82: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1098507:53
nubbeFrogzoo, that gives me a good long list, but what does it mean?  :)07:53
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monica82jmartini, thx!!!!!!!!!!07:54
jmartinimonica82: I didn't actually test that but its pretty close to what you want07:54
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monica82i am sure it will work07:54
monica82really thx07:54
monica82nice guy07:54
DBOarrick, have you tried chowning the directory where you mounted the thumb drive?07:55
Dr_Willisnormally you dont chown the dir you are mounting  filesystems to.07:55
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DBOwell he could also use the root account (or sudo) to chown a subdirectory and give world read07:57
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DBOis that prefered?07:57
lamegomount permisions are not related to file system permitions07:57
BludYmonica?07:57
lamegomount permitions are usually related to the umask option07:57
Dr_Willisif its an ext3 or other linux file system he could.. dont think that will work with vfat/ntfs07:57
BludYmonica82??????07:57
BludYasd07:57
whaley_workusing apt-get/apt-cache, is there a way I can try to find previous versions of a package?07:57
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lamegowhaley_work, don't tink so, unless apt keeps some logs of the upgrades07:58
Whateverhi all07:58
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BludYDo you have game on Linux??? For example Counter Strike Source?07:58
WhateverI need help with my ati radeon and fglrx drivers07:59
lamegoi have Enemy Territory07:59
whaley_worklamego: ack! that's not good as I need to install an older version of a particular package07:59
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whaley_worki'd rather not do it manually07:59
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Whateveranyone?07:59
Dr_Willis"Rocks & Diamonds" rulez07:59
Zanga!skype07:59
ubotuhmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/07:59
whaley_workWhatever: i'd offer guidance but i'm an nvidia user07:59
whaley_worksoz :(07:59
lamegoWhatever, I have installed flgrx from the ubuntu repos and then just changed the xorg.conf to use it08:00
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doubletwistBludY Enemy Territory, Quake 1,2,3,4, Doom 2 or three, America's Army, a lots more.08:00
michoelchi all. im trying to install ubuntu, but as soon as it finishes and is about to start then the screen just gets blank and nothing happens (i left it all night) anyone can help?08:00
lamego!tell about ati to Whatever08:00
WhateverI've done lotta things I found in ubuntuforums but none of them worked08:00
veninanyone know how to enable powernowd to use it with centrino?08:00
lamegomichal`, does it gets blank after the install is over ?08:01
venini tried modprobe speedstep-centrino08:01
lamegoduring the first boot ?08:01
michoelcyes at the end08:01
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lamegomichoelc, but, after installing ?08:01
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michoelcafter the cd comes out then it configures packages08:01
michoelcafter it finishes it gets blank08:01
michal`lamego: it is working with offb08:01
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lamegomichal`, switch to the console with CTRL-ALT-F108:01
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lamegoops i mean michoelc08:01
michoelcim getting confused whos who!08:02
lamegothen login with your user08:02
michal`ups not thischannel lol08:02
lamegoand try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:02
lamegomichoelc, CTRL-ALT-F1, login, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:02
michoelcill be back in one sec, im gonna try now08:02
Whateverthe problem is when I try to install flgrx in synaptic it says E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu16.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-008:02
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Whateverso it just can't install it08:03
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Whateverwhat should I do?08:03
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venini got FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): No such device08:04
venin when i tried modprobe speedstep-centrino08:04
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veninany clues ?08:04
elyxiwhat is the best apps if i want to connect to a vnc server?08:04
Dr_Williselyxi,  depends on the specifics of what you are doing.08:04
michoelclamego: should i autodetect vidio hardware or not?08:05
Zangadoes anyone know were i can get skype for ubuntu08:05
Zanga??08:05
Dr_Williselyxi,  kde  and gnome both have theor own variants of vncclients,  or the standard tightvnc,08:05
Dr_Willis!skype08:05
ubotufrom memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/08:05
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zipper|!xgl08:05
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/08:05
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geani have a usb.2.0 disk, that it is always properly munted by ubuntu as /media/usbdisk , but it makes problems sometimes, when files are copied from it... (nothing happens after Mbyte 222666 of something with 666222 MB) What can i do ? is there any chance to format (fsdisk) it ?! How ?!08:06
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bengoaHi... I'm having problem to get my pcmcia wifi card to work on ubuntu. Can someone help?08:06
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Dr_Willisgean,  you can alwyas fdisk and format it. but that will  erase all the data08:07
joevandykHow do I get a script to run when my laptop resumes after sleeping?08:07
elyxiDr_Willis my problem is that i only can connect to vnc when i turn of all security..08:07
Dr_Williselyxi,  vnc does use several ports.08:07
Dr_Williselyxi,  so you need forward/unblock the ones ou need.08:08
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mds\what about tunneling in via ssh and then using vnc08:08
Dr_Willisssh tunnles is doable also08:08
Frogzoogean: run fsck over it while unmounted just to check the file system08:08
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alteroosomehow <Shift>+Backspace restarts my gdm. Where can I go to reconfigure this. Keyboard Shortcuts doesnt seem to help08:09
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LabThugdoubletwist: yes, sed '1,Line-1D;Line+1,$D' filename works.  It's still slow, but that's what I get for messing with files that are 122576247 lines long :-)08:09
XVampireXTime to install dapper drake08:09
doubletwistLabThug Uh, yeah I can see why it is slow. :)08:10
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mds\thanks to whomever clued me in to less this morning..  less > more08:11
LabThugdoubletwist: The best thing about these big files is that I can use them to convince my boss I need a better computer to handle them ;-)08:11
veninwhats the opposite of modprobe?08:12
ubuntuFrogzoo, why can I acces my external drive with the liveCD, but not with the local installation, when I performed a default install?08:12
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joevandykHow do I make a script suid?08:12
venin90% questions 10% answers08:13
aimaz+s?08:13
carthikvenin, rmmod08:13
veninthank u08:13
carthikubuntu, head to the wiki and search for USB torubleshooting08:13
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carthik!usb08:13
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, carthik08:13
oskudespiderworm, *burb*, hups sry :) post your errors at pastebin that you get when doing "./configure" in ffmpeg dir, if none, do "make" there and post errors if any08:13
ubuntuvenin, it takes time for some people to find the info you need08:13
vandenoeverhello, i've an application that would be great for ubuntu08:13
venin:)08:13
vandenoeverhow can i propose it?08:13
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jbroometake it to dinner, and get down on one knee08:14
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vandenoeverjbroome: do i need rings or gold teeth?08:15
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bickyhello, I had ubuntu and windows on 1 partition, with grub as boot. now I reinstalled windows and it overwrote the mbr, how do I get this back to grub ?.. I'm on the live CD now08:15
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vandenoeverseriously: the app uses qt3, is that ok for ubuntu?08:15
arrickFrogzoo, it was me a minute ago asking  about the drive issue08:15
alteroosomehow <Shift>+Backspace restarts my gdm. Where can I go to reconfigure this. Keyboard Shortcuts doesnt seem to help08:15
Frogzoo!tell bicky about fixgrub08:15
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arrickdidnt realize i signed in a ubuntu08:15
bicky!tell bicky about fixgrub08:16
Frogzoo!tell bicky about grub08:16
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aimazare there any guides on setting the framebuffer resolution? for use on tty1 -> 608:16
arrickbicky, there should be page with the name ubuto on it down by ubuntu, that tells you about the links08:17
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ajisdeathhi08:17
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arrickWhy can I access my external hard drive through the LiveCD, but not through local installation?08:18
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ajisdeathdont no08:18
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Dr_Willisarrick,  mount the thing08:18
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joevandykHow do I make a script suid?08:18
arrickits mounted08:18
arricksays I dont have permission to view it08:18
Hexidigital!ntfs08:18
ubotufrom memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:18
Dr_Willisjoevandyk,  normally you dont.08:18
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Dr_Willisarrick,  mount it correctly then. :P08:18
arrickhow?08:18
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joevandykDr_Willis, yes, but I need to restart wireless after my notebook resumes from sleep08:18
polpakjoevandyk, linux doesn't really support suid scripts08:19
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ajisdeathhurry up then08:19
joevandykpolpak, oh.08:19
Dr_Willisnotice the  bot url just posted arrick ? :P edit your fstab and make the proper changes08:19
polpakjoevandyk, course you could write a small app in C that just calls your script, and set the binary program suid08:19
arrickI already did that08:20
joevandykpolpak, so how do i set the binary program suid?08:20
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pulgokican anyone tell me in lamens terms what the pam restriction options are for in the stock smb.conf file?08:20
polpakjoevandyk, chmod u+s /path/to/file08:20
ajisdeathasl every108:20
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vincent_hi08:21
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polpakajisdeath, 26/y/anywhere ;p08:21
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oskudespiderworm, ok, seems to work, even record to divx4, but i cant test audio atm..08:21
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polpakwhoops, I'm 27 now08:21
nikiwhat's that command to open your sound configuration thingy?08:22
polpakniki, which sound configuration thingy?08:22
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nikilol08:22
nikithe one where you can change the output device from alsa08:22
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polpakniki, system->preferences->multimedia systems selector ?08:23
arrickhow do I look at the fstab that is on the LiveCD?08:23
nikipolpak, that's the one, thx :)08:23
veninisnt there a 2.6.10 kernel in .deb format?08:23
Dr_Willisarrick,  boot the live cd and look at /etc/fstab08:24
Frogzooniki: system -> prefs -> multimedia selector?08:24
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nikiFrogzoo, yup, thx :)08:24
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arrick!pastebin08:25
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,08:25
spiderwormoskude: sorry was afk.... actually what were the steps you took to get it to work?08:25
nikiafter using the multimedia selector, do i have to do anything for the changes to take place (e.g. logoff, restart) or do they go into effect immediately?08:25
polpakniki, should take effect right away08:25
nikik08:26
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oskudespiderworm, do "./configure" in the ffmpeg directory (its in the xvidcap dir)08:26
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spiderwormoskude: ok08:26
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rebroadi am so impressed with ubuntu. I just upgraded from Hoary to Breezy with no problems at all, even crossover office still works after the upgrade!08:27
polpakubuntu.. it's what's for dinner08:27
spiderwormoskude: done08:27
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budluvarebroad, soon it'll be breezy to dapper08:27
budluva:P08:27
alteroowhat;s then name of the key in the Configuration Editor that restarts gdm08:27
alteroo?08:27
oskudespiderworm, then do "make" in there too08:28
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fred_bonsoir08:28
ansteiso, my laptop crashed, now i got some problems with rebooting. besides the desktop everything is fine - the syslog says "gdm[3977] : Error reinitilizing server". where could i find more about that error?08:28
oskudespiderworm, then do "make" in there too (with "make clean" before that is:)08:28
fred_hi08:28
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rebroadbudluva, well, i remember trying the dist-upgrade when breezy was still in beta and it didn't work so well, so maybe I'll wait until dapper is release, or even some months after that (in case it makes a difference)...08:28
nikihmmm...in the Multimedia Systems Selector, under Audio, whenever i do a Test sound for Default Source, no sound plays...then when i click ok to end the test, it crashes the multimedia systems selector...on top of that, sound doesn't work for supertux08:28
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joevandyka08:29
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rebroadit's a shame voipcheap and googletalk don't work on ubuntu.. :(08:29
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sfar-ubui cant hear no sound what so ever.. what to do? the device is installed.. nothing is muted08:30
mds\use kopete or gaim..  you can chat with google chat users08:30
spiderwormoskude: thanks, it's making now08:30
rebroadoh! cool. thanks mds\08:30
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mds\and any other chat service you'll ever want to use :)08:31
doubletwistAnd a bunch you never will :)08:31
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mds\bingo!08:31
rebroadgoogle's not showing up as an option in gaim....08:31
mds\it's jabber08:31
lamegoits jabber08:31
mds\one sec08:31
mds\I'll try and find a help url08:31
rebroadah, thanks mds\08:32
doubletwistif you google for google chat gaim you'll come up with instructions08:32
mds\http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=2407308:32
spiderwormoskude: sucess... now configure in the parent directory?08:32
oskudespiderworm, after that go back to xvidcap dir and do "./configure --with-gtk2 --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg"08:32
oskudespiderworm, and look that you have lavcodec yes and the other too08:33
crimsunniki: default _source_ won't work, because it needs to be set to either esd or oss08:33
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crimsunniki: for sdl games, make sure you have libsdl1.2debian-alsa installed08:33
ubuntuhiii08:33
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nikicrimsun, getting it now, thanks :)08:34
nikicrimsun, what's an 'sdl game'?08:34
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polpakcrimsun, or libsdl1.2debian-esd works too.. (at least I've had success with it)08:34
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crimsunpolpak: -alsa is recommended over -esd08:35
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rebroadmds\, got it working. thanks!08:35
crimsunniki: any game that uses sdl as its base08:35
polpakniki, a game that uses the "simple directmedia library"08:35
spiderwormoskude: working....08:35
jmartiniBah! Nothing like tearing apart the sound configuration and poking around the kernel modules to fix your sound when the volume slider is set to 0...08:35
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nikicrimsun, polpak, how do you know if a game is SDL?08:35
oskudespiderworm, and then "make clean" and "make gvidcap" if all goes well, you can start it from there with "./src/gvidcap"08:35
veninisnt there an easier way to get a newer kernel than http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 ?08:35
crimsunniki: look at its dependencies for libsdl08:35
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nikicrimsun, ok thx :)08:35
crimsunjmartini: which driver?08:36
polpakniki, or pygame08:36
oskudespiderworm, and when it runs, preferences is rightclick on filename08:36
marco_hi08:36
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jmartinicrimsun: it was an id: 10T error08:36
marco_anybody speak spanish??08:36
oskudespiderworm, my gf want to go rent a movie, ill be back in 15min or so...08:36
_michael_how can i make a folder on my account shared and then connect into it via IP from a remote computer using Ubuntu on both systems?08:36
crimsunjmartini: right, but which driver?08:36
Frogzoo!es08:36
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:36
spiderwormoskude: thanks dude!08:37
spiderwormsay hi to the gf!08:37
polpak_michael_, you either need to use nfs, or samba08:37
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jmartinijmartini: snd-emu10k1 but that doesn't help when you have the speakers turned off08:37
polpak_michael_, see system->administration->shared folders08:37
crimsunjmartini: I've already submitted a patch against alsa-utils to alleviate that in Dapper08:37
JagaHello all, I don't want to start an editor war here, but I would like some recommendations... I am looking for an editor for ubuntu that resembles textpad for windows. gnome 2.14's gedit looks like it might be on track but I running breezy...08:37
polpakJaga, Jedit08:37
jbroomeJaga: breezy's gedit doesn't work for you?08:38
jmartinicrimsun: Dapper will tell me when I've turned off my speakers? Cool!08:38
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crimsunjmartini: the problem of course is that the various codecs used with the emu10ks are so disastrously hopeless that one setting doesn't work for all08:38
polpakJaga, looks very similiar to textpad08:38
spiderwormoskude: success!08:38
FrogzooJaga: vi is available on all 'nix platforms, worth learning if only the basics08:38
polpakjbroome, gedit is more like notepad or wordpad. textpad is a whole different ballpark08:39
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polpakjbroome, though the next version of gedit will be much closer08:39
_michael_polpak; I added /home/michael to that list with nfs, how do i connect to it08:39
Jagapolpak, I will have a look for jedit, thanks08:39
gilianimahi, I have got an two images, one is called foo.PNG and another called bar.TIF, both are "Macintosh BinHex", I can I display them on Linux ?08:39
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Zanga!skype08:40
ubotu[skype]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/08:40
JagaFrogzoo, yeah. I know enough vi to a) edit a file in a real emergency, and b) to hate it08:40
Dr_Willisgilianima,  yes.08:40
Frogzoogilianima: open them with gimp08:40
polpakJaga, it's pretty easy to install (it has a repo for debian/ubuntu) but you have to have java08:40
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polpakJaga, specifically you have to have Sun's java08:40
jbroomepolpak: gotcha08:40
doubletwistHate vi? I love it :)08:40
gilianimaFrogzoo, Dr_Willis: that would be to easy... it doesn't work of course08:40
Dr_Willisgilianima,  then either the files are currupted. or are compressed.08:41
Jagapolpak, heh, weird. I have sun java tho so I will give it a try. tho it might take too much cpu for this slow machine if it's java08:41
Frogzoogilianima: not even the png???08:41
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polpakJaga, it's actually not terrible08:41
doubletwistGranted its the least intuitive software ever made by man, but I love it anyway. hehe08:41
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polpakJaga, you can also use the swig theme so it matches your GTK apps (java widgets are so sterile)08:42
Dr_Willisi find vi very intuitive.. :P once i bothered to rtfm08:42
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Dr_Willis:P08:42
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Jagapolpak, ah thats good.08:42
polpakDr_Willis, I think that's the opposite of intuitive08:42
dhawk312hey does anyone know how to get a microsoft 3 button optic mouse to work properly in drapper?08:42
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polpakDr_Willis, intuitive would mean you wouldn't have to rtfm to use it ;p08:43
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Dr_Willispolpak,  you are too used to being assumed to be  'moron' by MS then. :P08:43
_michael_I added /home/michael to that list with nfs, how do i connect to it08:43
spiderwormsoooo we must be getting pretty close to the next ubuntu release?  anyone know of a date?08:43
robinmdhdoes ubuntu "dapper" suport a ,multiheaded/multideated configuration?08:43
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_michael_from a remote pc08:43
Dr_Willispolpak,  nah..  that definitinon imples MS logic.08:43
gilianimaFrogzoo: not even...08:43
spiderwormwell, approximate date08:43
Frogzoospiderworm: june 108:43
doubletwistdhawk312 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44191&highlight=intellimouse08:43
gilianimaFrogzoo: but the files are readable on mac, so it's not corrupted08:43
spiderwormFrogzoo: sweet, thanks08:43
Dr_Willisgilianima,  now are you trasfering the files?08:44
Jagalol... it's the unix virus... nobody can mention text editors without a vi argument :)08:44
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polpakDr_Willis, no.. intuit : know or grasp by intuition or feeling08:44
Dr_WillisJaga,  Emacs rules!08:44
doubletwistdhawk312 although instead of using ~/.imwheelrc I use /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc08:44
polpakDr_Willis, not  intuit : to know or grasp by reading the manual08:44
gilianimaDr_Willis:  transfering the files ? I have it on my desktop...08:44
Dr_Willispolpak,  with that logic. text editors should emulate typewriters. :P08:44
dhawk312thanks let me try that08:44
michal`what's good dvd player under gnome ? (i have movies in iso images)08:44
doubletwistDr_Willis Pico forever! [hehe just kidding] 08:44
Dr_Willisgilianima,  it came from a mac - you just said.08:44
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JagaDr_Willis, yeah, I keep thinking about emacs, but last time I tried it wasn't for quite the same reasons as I want now. maybe a xemacs (gemacs??) would do for me now08:45
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polpakDr_Willis, no.. intuitive text editors should emulate typewriters.. I didn't say that intuitive interfaces were nessicaraly best. I just said that if an interface was intuitive it wouldn't require a manual08:45
Dr_WillisJaga,  i can edit so fast in vi - its scary08:45
gilianimaDr_Willis: yes, it comes from macos 908:45
fARbROr^KaLL3hi :) does anyone know any digi-tv card (pcmcia) that works with ubuntu? :)08:45
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gilianimaDr_Willis: but i'm on linux on a pc right now08:45
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Dr_Willisgilianima,  the 'binhex' is a clue.  ya got that from 'file whatever.PNG'  right?08:46
JagaDr_Willis, hmmmmm! I am trying my best not to get into a vi argument here... :)08:46
eizesushi all, how do i decompress RAR files?08:46
Dr_WillisJaga,  i actually like FTE. and I miss CygnysED on my AMIGA08:46
eizesusi have ARK installed08:46
doubletwisteizesus you need unrar installed08:46
rebroadeizesus, winrar under wine?08:46
Dr_Williseizesus,  install Rar or unrar08:46
JagaDr_Willis, FTE?08:46
Dr_Williswinrar doew work under wine.08:47
eizesusno, not under wine...08:47
Dr_WillisJaga,  yea. its a nice alternative editor in many ways08:47
eizesusfrom where to ger unrar?08:47
rebroadwinrar works under cedega,08:47
blackinghello all08:47
eizesussyneptic?08:47
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rebroadsorry. i meant crossover office08:47
blackingis there a specific room for Ubuntu ppc?08:47
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JagaIs there such a thing as gemacs ?08:48
gilianimaDr_Willis: i produced the file with a software (export to image...), it's well recognized on the mac i used08:48
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Dr_Willisgilianima,  'binhex' is a compressed thing on the mac i thought.08:48
doubletwistgilianima Is it possible that the software automatically compressed the file [without changing the extension] ?08:48
Dr_Willisgilianima,   also on apple stuff - each file has 2 'parts' that data part and a meta-data part. perhaps it some how got copied wrongly08:49
YoricDr_Willis, actually, not compressed. It's the mac equivalent to uucode.08:49
robinmdhdoes ubuntu(dapper) suport a multiheaded/multideated configuration?08:49
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Dr_WillisYoric,  ok :P08:49
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Dr_Willisrobinmdh,  clarify that. :P i think the answer is YES  most disrtos do/can08:49
doubletwistgilianima I think there's a 'macutils' package that can give you the tools to deal with those binhex files.08:49
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doubletwistAt least there is in debian sarge.08:49
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curley_sue!hosts08:50
ubotucurley_sue: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:50
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robinmdhDr_Willis, I'm asking becouse of: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/3336908:50
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solid_liquorwhere is the file for configuring repositories at again?08:51
gilianimadoubletwist:i tried it already, but unsuccessfully08:51
_michael_what is the ipconfig equivilant in linux?08:51
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solid_liquor_michael_: ifconfig08:51
_michael_ty08:51
doubletwistgilianima What about uudeview?08:51
Dr_Willisrobinmdh,  that site/post  makes no sence. :P08:51
solid_liquoriotw, how do I enable world?08:51
curley_suehi, I have no SUDO. probably accidently distroyed my /etc/hosts . any ideas on how to recover it ?08:51
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Dr_Willisrobinmdh,  i can confiugure Ubuntu (or any linux) to use dual monitors08:52
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Dr_Willisrobinmdh,  now i dont knwo what 'multiseat' means08:52
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arrick!pastebin08:52
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,08:52
solid_liquordoes anyone know which file in /etc I have to edit to enable world?08:52
solid_liquor!world08:52
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, solid_liquor08:52
solid_liquor!apt08:52
ubotuI guess apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto08:52
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mrproper!vpn08:53
ubotuit has been said that vpn is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD08:53
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doubletwistrobinmdh here's someinfo on a multi-seat system: http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html08:53
Spudchathi, whats the file i modify so that i can refer to local machines as their hostnames instead of ips?08:53
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solid_liquorSpudchat: /etc/hosts08:53
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Spudchatthanks08:53
Dr_Willis- /etc/hosts08:53
Dr_WillisSpurising name eh?08:53
Spudchat:P08:53
mrproperhow do I set up an VPN?08:53
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solid_liquorDr_Willis: do you know what file to edit for enabling world?08:54
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mds\saaaaay that multi-head thing is neat08:54
doubletwistsolid_liquor what do you mean by 'enabling world'?08:54
solid_liquorDr_Willis: I can't remember the name08:54
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curley_sueHELP  I have no SUDO. I probably accidently distroyed my /etc/hosts . any ideas on how to recover it ?08:54
robinmdhDr_Willis, I'll clarify, I'm trieing to run a 4 seated config with 2 nvidia card, currently my monitor clains "input out of range" but i didn't toutch the resolution or the sync rates08:54
Zangahow can i deleete a file when i don`t have the option delete ??08:54
blackingi got an yaboot error while install Hoary 5.04..08:54
Dr_Willissolid_liquor,  - /etc/apt/sources.lst or somthing08:54
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robinmdh*claims08:54
solid_liquordoubletwist: my sources for apt08:54
lullabudcurley_sue: do you have /etc/sudoers ?08:54
solid_liquorDr_Willis: thanks08:54
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ProfichillaALSA complains when starting Guitar Pro with Wine. May someone look at why it does?-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1098808:54
doubletwistsolid_liquor either edit /etc/apt/sources.list or use synaptics.08:54
curley_suelullabud, looking08:54
doubletwistSynaptic rather.08:55
Dr_Willisrobinmdh,  i still have no clue what 'seated' means. :P  I use dual monitors/tv out all the time - with Twinview. and a lot of tweaking.08:55
lullabudcurley_sue: try dpkg-reconfigure sudo08:55
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_michael_I need help with file sharing down to the basics, is anybody willing to help me in pm?08:55
blackingan apple experts here?08:55
flodineis there anyone here running torsmo that can help me08:55
tonyyarussoAny good software fore making calendars for printing?08:55
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lullabudblacking: not sure about expert, but i use os x.08:55
doubletwistDr_Willis I think he means 4 monitors, 4 mice and 4 keyboards on one box like described at http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html08:55
solid_liquoroh, I guess I meant universe :D08:55
robinmdhDr_Willis, it means having multiple x servers on multiple screens with multiple keyboards/mouses08:55
solid_liquor!universe08:55
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:55
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curley_suelullabud, I dont have /etc/sudoers08:56
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curley_suelullabud,  the dpkg must b run as root08:56
lullabudcurley_sue: definitely try `dpkg-reconfigure sudo`08:56
robinmdhDr_Willis it uses Twinview but as separate screens08:56
lullabudcurley_sue: hmmm... yeah.  haha08:56
meisamhi guys i have some difficulties on eclipse08:56
Dr_Willisrobinmdh,  ahh.. - I just use cheap 'x terminal' that way :P08:56
robinmdhDr_Willis, but it's not working exactly as it should08:56
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XVampireXHello08:57
XVampireXI'm back and better than ever :D08:57
curley_suelullabud, ok, how is that done? have no root priv (having no sudo...)08:57
YoricIs anyone here familiar with unison ?08:57
XVampireXAm on Dapper Drake08:57
Dr_Willisrobinmdh,  ive seen where ya can have more then 1 X on differnet monitotrs. but never had the need for multi mice/kbrds.. that would be a very cluttered area :P08:57
doubletwistHow well would an x-terminal work over an 11mbit 802.11b network?08:57
arrickDr_Willis, can you check out pastebin, find my two last entries, compare them and tell me what to change to get my external drive up?08:57
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gnomefreakXVampireX: use #ubuntu+1 for dapperdrake issues please08:57
lullabudcurley_sue: that's tough.  might have to reboot into single-user mode.08:57
doubletwistWould that be too slow for general websurfing?08:57
arrickthey bothe have the name Arrick on them, in the last half hour08:57
XVampireXI got no issues08:57
solid_liquoranyone know which kernel I need for amd64 smp? (dualcore X2)08:57
curley_suelullabud, I'll try, thanx!08:57
XVampireXThis is the general ubuntu chatroom so I'm here ;)08:58
Dr_Willisarrick,  i gotta run to work..  - i tend to use the options   'user,users,umask=022' for my ntfs partitions08:58
robinmdhDr_Willis, the keyboard are set, it's the multy screen output wich isn't working08:58
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nikihow do i close a program that refuses to close?08:58
Dr_Willisgood luck.. work time for me.08:58
solid_liquorthe amd64-generic (default kernel) doesn't have SMP support08:58
gilianimadoubletwist: it works... thanks!! ..can you explain why ?08:58
_michael_fine then... is there any wiki about sharing folders in ubuntu?08:58
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meisamguys i need some help on  :eclipse08:58
solid_liquormeisam: then why not ask in #eclipse?08:59
doubletwistgilianima Just the funky way your Mac software saves its files. It doesn't save as a proper png or tiff I guess.08:59
meisamsure08:59
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doubletwistgilianima There might be an option in the software to make it stop doing that, but I'm not really familiar with anything on macs.08:59
nikican someone tell me how to end a program that has crashed and will not close by clicking 'close' on the window?08:59
solid_liquoranyone know which kernel I need for amd64 SMP? (dualcore X2)08:59
lullabudniki: xkill08:59
doubletwistNiki xkill08:59
arrickplease help09:00
meisamsolid_liquor: no one is answering friend09:00
wd3my sound in totem and vlc just stopped, can't get sound for movies, and dvd.09:00
nikilullabud, doubletwist, ty!09:00
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alhambra_hi, i use ubuntu5.10. my desktop panel's context menu disappeard, now i can't add or delete or move any items on it, who knows what to do with this?09:00
arrickI have been tryng to get my external drive working through the installed ubuntu, and can't get it up, and I can view it all through liveCD09:00
Frogzoogilianima: I guess if uudeview works it, the files must be uu encoded - wierd!09:00
_michael_how do i connect to a folder being shared with NFS???09:01
doubletwistFrogzoo No they are encoded with binhex. uudeview works for that too.09:01
Frogzoo_michael_: you might find setting up samba file sharing simpler09:01
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Frogzoodoubletwist: ah i c09:01
doubletwistSimilar concept though I believe.09:01
Heroini have an ubuntu install disk (5.04) can i install it without gnome ?09:01
doubletwistuudeview deals with uuencode, xxencode, BASE64, quoted printable, and09:01
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doubletwist BinHex09:01
meisamguys...i can not use my wireless connection?09:02
Heroini got the ubuntu disk from a friend but i want kubuntu09:02
meisamwhat should i do?09:02
FrogzooHeroin: please do yourself a favour & get a 5.10 cd...09:02
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ompaulHeroin, you can, and then you should upgrade to 5.10 and then install kubuntu09:02
_michael_Frogzoo; how do i set up samba?09:02
_jasonHeroin: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, in applications > accessories > terminal will give you kubuntu09:02
Frogzoo!tell _michael_ about samba09:02
arrick!samba09:02
ubotu[samba]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently09:02
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Heroinompual.. i can tell it to do a minimal install or something and the apt-get KDE?09:02
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meisamwireless connection09:03
_jasonHeroin: you can do a server install and then do the command I said before09:03
ompaulHeroin, as the machine boots it pauses at that point choose custom - you will figure it out (I can't remember that it was a year ago :))09:03
Heroinserver install comes with apache and stuff?09:03
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ompaulHeroin, no it does not install apache as default you can however install that with no problem09:03
Heroinok.. so server install is more or less a debian-net install?09:04
ProfichillaALSA complains when starting Guitar Pro with Wine. May someone look at why it does?-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1098809:04
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ompaulyeap09:04
meisamhey guys....no one is ganna answer me back?09:04
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ompaulHeroin, clue we don't do root passwords here all is done through sudo and works rather well09:04
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ompaul!tell Heroin about root09:04
arrickmeisan: sometimes it takes a minute for researching the dusty bins of the mind to find answers09:04
Heroinok i know about sudo :P09:04
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ompaulHeroin, enjoy :)09:05
Heroini think i wont :p09:05
arrickmeisam: sometimes it takes a minute for researching the dusty bins of the mind to find answers09:05
Heroinsee problem is debian net install isnt picking up DHCP09:05
_jasonHeroin: you should upgrade the server install to 5.10 and then install kubuntu probably09:05
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Heroinah k jason09:05
oskudespiderworm, back, and, does it work ?09:05
Heroinapt-get dist-upgrade?09:05
_jasonubotu: tell Heroin about breezy09:05
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ompaulHeroin, with a sudo yeap09:05
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arrick_jason, you good with external usb drives?09:06
deefzismoothwall or firestarter? opinions?09:06
doubletwistHeroin of course you'll need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list first.09:06
moparfan90how do compile a .java program on ubuntu?09:06
_jasonarrick: not really09:06
arrickanyone here good with external usb drives?09:06
arrickok09:06
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curley_suelullabud, ok I have /etc/sudoers and still have the same sudo problem. I do belive I destroyed my /etc/hosts...09:06
spiderwormoskude: yeah, seems to work great!09:06
ompauldeefzi, what are you defending?09:06
doubletwistarrick My USB/Firewire drives work fine for me.09:06
Frogzoomoparfan90: javac09:06
moparfan90ok09:06
deefziompaul, my computer from evil paladins and dragons.09:06
spiderwormoskude: i couldnt "make install" unfortunately09:06
doubletwistarrick They mount and are writable out of the box.09:06
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_michael_how do I connect to a folder with samba, i don't want to mount it permenatly, I can't figure out how to access it09:06
Spudchatarrick: mine appers on the desktop and it mounts on its own09:07
meisamarrick and sometimes it takes a sec to answer some people09:07
spiderwormoskude: you think i can just copy the executable to /usr/bin and have it work there?09:07
oskudespiderworm, i wouldnt do "make install" from cvs stuff, it works as normal locally...09:07
arrickdoubletwist, it wont let me view them through the installed ubuntu, but it allows it through the LiveCD09:07
meisamarrick and of course sometimes it takes half second to shut some people up09:07
doubletwistarrick Do they not automount as soon as you plug them in?09:07
ompauldeefzi, then you need a tin foil hat, I asked the question for a reason, if you care to answer it, and say it is a desktop not running services then that gets one answer that gets one answer etc09:07
deefziompaul, nah, just a desktop machine. i'm "familiar" with iptables, but i thought i'd install some GUI-based front-end for it (hope they both use iptables) just for the ease09:07
arrickyeah09:07
nawkni like ubuntu a lot09:07
Heroinok nice thx guys09:07
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Heroini g2g09:08
curley_sue_michael_, using nautilus u can go to location smb:///09:08
foxmateelo all09:08
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deefziompaul, sorry i was talking irl :-)09:08
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curley_suelullabud, r u with me?09:08
arrickmeisam, sorry09:08
AngryElfhey all, i created an app launcher on my panel that has a command of "sh script.sh"  but the script doesn't run when i click it, am i missing something?09:08
doubletwistarrick You might try and make sure that gnome-volume-manager is running [ps auxwww |grep gnome-volume ] 09:08
foxmateme09:08
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RPG_I made the mistake of installing Windows XP on my dual-boot system after I installed Ubuntu, and the XP bootloader overwrote Ubuntu's bootloader. How can I boot into Ubuntu?09:08
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ompauldeefzi, they do use iptables, youd me mad to do anything else on ubuntu, but if its a desktop then why the firewall nothing exposed09:08
_michael_curley_sue, i tried but the passwords i know aren't working09:08
meisamarrick i just asked a simle question im havin`09:08
oskudespiderworm, btw, for better frame rate, make your screen 800 or 640 and then do fullscreen record09:08
_jasonubotu: tell RPG_ about grub09:08
meisamarrick thats all09:08
arrickok09:09
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RPG_ty09:09
deefziompaul, you're right, but still. i feel more comfortable with unnecessary ports being closed09:09
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spiderwormoskude: yeah :)09:09
doubletwistarrick If it isn't running just run it from a termina like:  gnome-volume-manager&09:09
curley_sueHELP "sudo: unable to lookup EA via gethostbyname()"  (EA is my comp-name) I belive I have corrupted my /etc/hosts. any ideas?09:09
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oskudespiderworm, i did a whole new user for recording, with less stuff running, low screen res and so on...09:09
doubletwistarrick Then re-plug in the drive.09:09
yohani just recompiled the kernel and sound doesnt work, particularly not alsa...is there anyway to reinstall the alsa module?09:09
_jasoncurley_sue: paste the first lines of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname please09:09
meisam_jason hi..back to u jason09:09
doubletwisthrm09:09
nawknwho use fluxbox?09:10
_jasonmeisam: ?09:10
curley_sue_michael_,  sorry, dont know more than that09:10
_jasonnawkn: just ask please :)09:10
nawkni'm having problem with this gui09:10
arrickdoubletwist, chekc the message I posted you,09:10
arrickit shows what I saw09:10
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doubletwistarrick I see it...09:10
arrickok09:10
arrickis it on>?09:10
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meisam_jason would u help me to tell me how can i have my wireless connection connected09:10
doubletwistarrick looks like it is running ok. DUnno what to tell you...09:10
spiderwormoskude: thanks so much!  this is great!09:10
_jasonubotu: tell meisam about wireless09:10
curley_sue_jason, no need for paste in my case:09:11
Yoricmeisam, I have little experience, but what's the problem ?09:11
curley_sue_jason, ~$ more /etc/hosts09:11
curley_sue# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts09:11
_jasonmeisam: I never set one up, all I can do is refer you to the bot09:11
arrickdoubletwist, it just tells me I dont have permissions when i click on it09:11
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oskudespiderworm, and i allso tested those vnc thingies and istanbul... gvidcap seems the best...09:11
_jasoncurley_sue: and what is in /etc/hostname?09:11
curley_sue_jason, EA (my comp-name)09:11
meisamYoric thanks....09:11
arrickI posted the live fstab and my current fstab to the pastebin under my name, could you see if i need to change something?09:11
meisamYoric u know what..09:11
oskudespiderworm, and the developer is waking up again :) (no hes just busy) (last update on 2006-01-02)09:12
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meisamYoric when i go to the wireless  environment09:12
curley_sue_jason, I deleted so lines using Network-admin. I guess played too much with it09:12
_jasoncurley_sue: ok you will need to either su to root if you have access to root or boot in recovery mode and insert this line at the beginning of /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost EA09:12
doubletwistarrick I'd need to look at how mine is set up but that machine is not on at the moment [otherwise I could log in from work and check it out]  Sorry.09:12
spiderwormoskude: yeah, i had probs with istanbul and vnc2swf gives flash files... why would anyone want a flash movie?  but i digress09:12
meisamim connected but i can not recieve pages09:12
arrickok09:12
_jasoncurley_sue: do you know how to edit files in cli?09:12
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Yoricmeisam, how do you check that you're connected ?09:12
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curley_sue_jason, ok I already rebooted as root, I'll try that. don't know cli. I use vim.09:13
meisami check the status09:13
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meisamYoric i mean the icon on top09:13
_jasoncurley_sue: heh that's what I mean, cli is just command line interface :)09:13
Yoricmeisam, with iwconfig ?09:13
Yoricok09:13
meisamYoric no09:13
Yoricmeisam, did you do what's necessary for encryption ?09:13
Yoric(in case your network is encrypted)09:14
oskudespiderworm, im slowly staritng interested on blender, so if you get any nice tutorials done, say hi at #ubuntu-offtopic, im allmost daily there...09:14
arrick!pastebin09:14
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,09:14
meisamYoric no09:14
ompauldeefzi, firestarter then09:14
meisamYoric whats that?09:14
Yoricmeisam, do you know if your network is encrypted ?09:14
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meisamYoric aha09:15
ompaularrick, who is that for?09:15
meisamYoric no no i dun think the problem is about the network09:15
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arrickme09:15
curley_sue_jason, well, newbie (7 months and still - newbie ;-)09:15
arrickompaul, me09:15
Yoricmeisam, have you looked at the instructions on this page09:15
meisamYoric i think im havin the problem in IP configuration09:15
Yorichttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto09:15
Yoric?09:15
lullabudcurley_sue: sorry, was working on something.  you don't have an /etc/hosts file?09:15
spiderwormoskude: damn straight i've got tutorials done.  google blender 3D noob to pro09:15
curley_sue_jason, got my sudo bak :)!09:16
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monteiroi've two pc's in my network ,, how do i access to their files with samba ?09:16
_jasoncurley_sue: great09:16
doubletwistarrick what is the url you pasted for your fstab?09:16
arrickdoubletwist, i sent a screen shot to the pastebin with your name on it, its what i get when I try to open the external drive09:16
curley_suelullabud, got help from _jason , working on it, thanx!09:16
lullabudcurley_sue: oh, cool.  was it /etc/hosts ?09:17
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arrickthe last two were under Arrick09:17
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arrickhang on09:17
oskudespiderworm, roger09:17
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neoxanre :)09:17
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spiderwormoskude: .... and when you find it, look for my name among the authors09:18
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meisamYoric no. no, im tryin` to do so.09:18
_michael_I'm trying to transfer MP3 files to my nomad but gnomad2 crashes when i try to open my folder of MP3s, there's about 1500 songs in it09:18
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Yoricmeisam, well, that pages knows *much* more than me :)09:18
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curley_suelullabud, _jason : ok, the sudo problem is fixed (adding the localhost to /etc/host) but that's the only line I have there. shouldn't there be anything else (it used to be much longer filled with fe00:: ... and so on09:18
arrickdoubletwist, I reposted them for you09:18
arrickunder your name09:18
meisamYoric thanks anyway09:18
oskudespiderworm, nice to meet you :)09:18
solid_liquidanyone else been able to get their X server to work with a PCI Express ATI chipset on an amd64?09:18
YoricGood luck.09:19
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klmwhat is a three-dimensional hologram called? (as those in Half-Life)09:19
solid_liquidmy X server won't start09:19
_jasoncurley_sue: probably some ipv6 stuff?  to tell you the truth I don't know what it does, but I have it in mine if you want me to pastebin it...09:19
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arrick3d image09:19
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doubletwistarrick Yeah but don't I need the url? I'm not finding any way to search on pastebin [unless I'm just blind] 09:19
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hitmanhipanos???09:19
_jason!es09:19
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:19
arrickdoubletwist, look to the rigth side of the pastebin for your name09:19
solid_liquidanyone experienced any ATI problems with PCI Express period?09:20
arrick!pastebin09:20
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,09:20
curley_sue_jason, any idea which prog creates it? which should be there?09:20
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arrickubotu, tell doubletwist about pastebin09:20
doubletwistAh duh, I wsas just going to pastebin.com09:20
_jasoncurley_sue: I have one line taht reads # (added automatically by netbase upgrade), so maybe a dpkg-reconfigure of netbase will do it, but I am speculating09:20
solid_liquidanyone here have an ATI video card working?09:21
spiderwormoskude: you too :-D09:21
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doubletwistarrick You know I don't think I even have entries for my usb drives in fstab at all.09:21
doubletwistarrick I know I don't for my thumbdrive, and it automounts just fine.09:21
doubletwistarrick I think you don't need any entries for usb drives in fstab, [and if you've installed a diskmounter utility you don't need that either] 09:22
arrickok09:22
oskudespiderworm, im still on search for a codec that can 2fps video with audio synced, im even thinking on rec/play seperately...09:22
arrickthe usb entry loaded automatically09:22
doubletwistarrick Are you using breezy or dapper?09:23
arrickbreezy09:23
doubletwistok09:23
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curley_sue_jason, u did it again! 'dpkg-reconfigure netbase' (root-priv) and there back! thanx again!09:24
spiderwormoskude: im not aware of anything.... i'm gonna be using Audacity to record the audio while gvidcap records video, and use Blender to put the two together correctly :D09:24
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somthaoHi, does anyone know why i cant get artwiz font-pack working?09:24
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deizihow do i set screensaver OFF on kubuntu?09:24
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morethi all!!09:24
doubletwistarrick Actually if it is automounting, but you just can't access it...09:24
arrickdoubletwist, yeah?09:24
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somthaoHi, does anyone know why i cant get artwiz font-pack working?09:24
arrickthats what is happening09:24
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doubletwistarrick you could add "uid=arrick,gid=arrick" to the entries in fstab. That will mount it owned by you [but no other users could access] 09:24
somthaono matter what i try, it fails to work09:24
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arrickwhere ate int eh fstab?09:25
hitmanhispanos..'''???09:25
oskudespiderworm, what fps are you gonna use ? (maybe we should go to #ubuntu-offtopic)09:25
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morethitman: yo mismo09:25
doubletwistarrick right after the ro bit. You don't need some of that other stuff either. Just use:09:25
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spiderwormoskude: 30 FPS at about 960x600 resolution.... i'm pretty sure this machine can handle it09:25
axisyshey guys.. my work just got a bizhub konica minolta 250.. where can I get a driver.. the cd comes with xp driver only?09:25
somthaohello, any help please?09:25
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doubletwistuse this:  /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs ro,uid=arrick,gid=arrick 0 009:25
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krietorhey guys09:26
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spiderwormoskude: i want to make professional videos (yes, large) with all the bells & whistles09:26
patrick52222Does any one know what norton ghost is, i was wondering if there was one like that for linux, so i can make a backup version with all drivers and formats included09:26
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curley_suelullabud, _jason last problem for this evening: when I unmount my usb-disk its link-light does not go off. any ideas?09:26
soundrayLooking for ideas: I want to remotely switch on a PC that doesn't support Wake-on-LAN. ???09:26
krietorcould anyone help me out here09:26
hitmansabes la direccion del servidor ubuntu - es??09:26
somthaoi tried reading up but it wont help much...there's the way to install xfonts-artwiz09:26
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somthaobut thats all about there is to it- does it work on ubuntu anyway?09:26
oskudespiderworm, ah, so not for the internet ?09:26
doubletwistarrick of course change 'arrick' to whatever username you log in as :)09:26
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arrickits arrick like you though09:26
nismoHow do I get mplayer? Ive tried synaptic but it doesnt appear there09:26
somthao!xfonts09:26
ubotusomthao: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:26
doubletwistarrick That's the options I always have to use to get my user to be able to access ntfs drives.09:27
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krietorive installed now ubuntu, and i got 2 Hard drives with NTFS which got all my old data which i dont want to delete09:27
lullabudcurley_sue: i don't know for sure about that... my guess is that when you dismount it linux is leaving the power to the port on.09:27
somthao!font09:27
ubotumethinks font is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto09:27
krietornow the problem is09:27
soundray!info mplayer09:27
lullabudcurley_sue: mine's the same way in linux.09:27
krietori cant access to it09:27
nismo?09:27
oskudespiderworm, cause i was testing that a screen video tutorial doesnt need more that 2fps (for video)09:27
soundray!info mplayer-68609:27
nismo!info mplayer09:27
nismorawr09:27
ubotumplayer-686: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB09:27
_jasonubotu: tell nismo about mplayer09:27
nismothanks09:27
patrick52222is there a type of norton ghost for linux09:27
curley_suelullabud, how can u tell it was umounted correctly?09:27
lullabudpatrick52222: partimage09:27
knanandI have problem Adding Applications (I installed it just now!)....:(09:28
krietori cant acess to my NTFS hard drives09:28
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lullabudcurley_sue: `mount` or `tail /var/log/syslog` or `dmesg` ?09:28
krietorcan anyone explain to me please09:28
mattw_ubuntu09:28
hitmanalgun servidor en espaol'''???09:28
_jason!es09:28
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:28
krietor!pt09:28
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.09:28
arrickdoubletwist, it didnt change anything09:28
soundray!tell krietor about ntfs09:28
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polpak!tell krietor about mount09:28
axisys!printer09:28
ubotuprinter is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org09:28
polpak!tell krietor about windowsdrives09:29
spiderwormoskude: yes for the internet first.... i work for a major CDN :)09:29
soundraykrietor: now you've got stuff to read :)09:29
doubletwistarrick even after you unmount and remount it?09:29
spiderwormoskude: also ordered & shipped on disc later09:29
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patrick52222lullabud: what version do i get09:29
duelboothow do I get all my default fonts back in Ubuntu...I have kubuntu-desktop installed as well...went into KDE, made some changes (to include fonts) and then went back to gnome...fonts changed...went back to KDE and put all fonts to default...went back to gnome, they changed but are not default...any help?09:29
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arrickdoubletwist, havent tried that yet, how please09:29
knanandPLEASE HELP ME I CANNOT ADD APPLICATIONS09:29
blackingi found support for Ubuntu ppc09:29
oskudespiderworm, btw, to get better quality videos (and AFAIK more fps) save "video" as seperate images (every frame) and then make the video from them afterwards...09:30
_jasonknanand: your caps lock seems to be broken09:30
nismook when i did the command it gives you "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586" in the terminal, i than get "Pakage mplayer-586 is not available, but is referred to by another pakage. This may mean that the pakage is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from abother source" E: Pakage mplayer-586 has no installation candidate"09:30
lullabudpatrick52222: the newest one...?09:30
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doubletwistarrick run "umount /media/sda1" then I guess unplug it and plug it back in.09:30
arrickknanand, you using a gui or the terminal09:30
arrickok09:30
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lullabudpatrick52222: in my experience it's not as nice as ghost.  you can't image an entire disk, just partitions.09:30
knanandI use GUI09:30
spiderwormoskude: oh ok, cool!   thanks for the tip09:30
curley_sue!tell me about paste09:30
nismoam i missing the universe repositories?09:30
doubletwistif you want to image an entire disk, just use dd :)09:30
oskudespiderworm, or in whatever uncompressed format, then you can recode that to what ever quality you need09:30
polpaknismo, yeah, or multiverse09:31
polpaknismo, but probably just universe09:31
patrick52222thats all i want as linux takes a while to get back to the way ya had it09:31
polpak!tell nismo about repos09:31
nismowell ive done what it tells me about them09:31
nismoon synaptic09:31
nismobut mplayer wont show09:31
somthaois there anywhere i can download the entire ubuntu wiki?09:31
_jasonnismo: you need multiverse09:31
oskudespiderworm, i somewhere read that the fastest record was to use that x image format, standard when you start gvidcap, you can read the faqs on xvidcaps site09:31
patrick52222lullabud: how do i install the "partimage-0.6.4-static.tar.bz2"09:31
krietorOMG its working09:31
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krietorTHX A LOT GUYS09:32
krietor:D09:32
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soundrayCan you recommend a solution for turning on a computer remotely, other than Wake-on-LAN?09:32
polpak!info  mplayer-58609:32
nismohow do i do multiverse?09:32
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3526 kB, Installed size: 7940 kB09:32
avi109:32
spiderwormoskude: cool, i'll be sure i check i tout09:32
_jasonubotu: tell nismo about multiverse09:32
doubletwistsoundray Call someone to push the button? :)09:32
avihello09:32
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xstWhy is mousepad tapping not enabled for labtops in ubuntu as default? (How do I enable it?)09:32
_jasonnismo: press ctrl+f and search for multiverse on the wiki page, read every sentence carefully09:32
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soundraydoubletwist: excellent, I should have thought of that.09:32
ernzHello again everyone09:32
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polpakxst, it is on mine.. much to my annoyance09:32
nismokj09:32
soundraydoubletwist: problem is the lag, of course...09:32
doubletwistsoundray I'm here to help hehe09:32
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lullabudpatrick52222: not sure.09:33
ernzAnother quick question: How can I set Mozilla to play WMV files?09:33
xeonwalescan any1 tell me how to 'clone' my root account?09:33
lullabudpatrick52222: just enable more repositories and install it like a normal app.09:33
knanandIt says Unable to get exclusive lock09:33
polpak!tell ernz about restricted09:33
knanandThis usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first09:33
doubletwistsoundray APC makes power-strips that have a modem attached and you can dial in to turn on specific outlets [assuming your machine will auto-start when power is applied] 09:33
doubletwistsoundray Not cheap of course.09:33
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polpak!tell erez you need to follow the wiki and get the mplayer plugin09:33
xeonwalescan any1 tell me how to 'clone' my root account?09:33
polpakerr09:33
doubletwistarrick Did that work?09:33
polpakerez,  you need to follow the wiki and get the mplayer plugin09:33
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lullabudxeonwales: clone your root account?09:34
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soundraydoubletwist: interesting. That's the APC that makes UPSs, isn't it? I'll look it up.09:34
lullabudxeonwales: ...are you trying to do something else, and you think cloning your root account is the way to go?09:34
patrick52222can i get it through synaptic09:34
curley_suelullabud, _jason I'll appreciate u taking look at this outputs (after 'umount /media/Flash_disk/) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1099709:34
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doubletwistsoundray Yeah that's them09:34
xeonwalesi have a root account that i was using, but have just set-up other users. i want settings / programs to be available to all09:34
ernzPolpak, I managed to install 'multimedia plugin for Mozilla based on VLC' using synaptic, but how do I set VLC as the default player?09:35
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oskudespiderworm, that xwd format (X11 Window Dump) shold be the fastest to get images from X and i assume that quality is not used with this...09:35
_jasoncurley_sue: I looked at it but I don't really know why your light wouldn't turn off.  Does it turn off after a few minutes?  maybe it is finishing writing something09:35
knanandPLEASE HELP ME!!!09:35
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_jasonknanand: drop the caps09:35
doubletwistsoundray Or Sun Netra's serial console works even when the machine is turned off [as long as power is applied of course]  and you can serial console in and turn them on. :)09:35
oskudespiderworm, neither compression of course... so it may need much hd space :)09:35
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xeonwalesi have a root account that i was using, but have just set-up other users. i want settings / programs to be available to all09:36
dydimustkwhat would regexp be to exclude a directory in a mv * command09:36
LinuxJonesknanand: what's the problem ?09:36
doubletwistsoundray I'm sure there are OOB admin cards for servers than you can get that would allow you to do that too. Don't know of any brands though.09:36
nikiwhen installing j2re1.4, should i "Grant the 'stopthread' RunTimePermission"?09:36
knanandwhen i try to add applications i get and error that reads It says Unable to get exclusive lock09:37
knanandThis usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first09:37
ernzIs there a way of setting default application for a filetype?09:37
_jasonknanand: do you have synaptic open?09:37
erezpolpak: err.. you must wanted to tell it to someone else..09:37
curley_sue_jason, it's this way for longer than ten min. It is not supposed to be writing anything09:37
_jason!defaultapp09:37
ubotuTo change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting09:37
xeonwalesi have a root account that i was using, but have just set-up other users. i want settings / programs to be available to all09:37
soundraydoubletwist: it must be cheaper than ca. $200 (which is what a decent mainboard with WOL would cost...)09:37
xeonwalesany1 know how?09:37
oskudespiderworm, btw, blender uses hardware opengl for the gui, right ? hope gvidcap can capture that...09:37
doubletwistsoundray Ah... I think you're screwed then :)09:37
spiderwormoskude: yeah i figure as much.  i wonder if ther would be a problem writing to a remove machine instead of locally?  this machine's hd is a little small09:37
ernzWhere's nautilis? :)09:37
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doubletwistsoundray SOlution: don't turn off the machine. :)09:37
spiderwormoskude: yeah it does, i think it should work, let me test09:37
_jasonernz: it's the name of the filebrowser09:38
knanandwats synaptic. i'm not sure... i just installed this today09:38
gnomefreakernz: places>home09:38
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_jasonknanand: system > administration > synaptic09:38
ernzYa Gnomefreak09:38
gnomefreakubotu tell knanand about synaptic09:38
AngryElfwhat command makes cron recheck the crontab?09:38
ernzJust says 'File Browser'09:38
LinuxJonesknanand: it's the graphical packge update/installer09:38
patrick52222lullabud: its saying the partion is unknow09:38
ernzSoz09:38
ernzIt is Nautilis09:38
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doubletwistAngryElf it does it automatically09:38
gnomefreakernz: thats nautilus09:38
ernzMan - I am such noob09:38
oskudespiderworm, you could do a nfs partition on the remote machine and mount it on the gvidcap machine...09:38
ernzlol09:38
ernzty GnomeFreak09:38
gnomefreakyw09:39
mdkei'd like to insert multiple ports in my sshd_config, do I do one line per port number, or comma separated?09:39
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lawineAngryElf: cron does check that automagically, there's no command needed09:39
knanandthat also shows an error.... E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.09:39
AngryElfok then, where do errors from crontab-run commands end up?09:39
soundraydoubletwist: I considered that. Problem is, it's fairly unstable (running experimental VDR software) and I want it to boot on an as-needed basis to have the best chance of recording the shows I want to watch.09:39
lawineAngryElf: usually, they are mailed to root09:39
_jasonknanand: close everything, open a terminal and run that command09:39
LinuxJonesknanand: follow those instructions and run the command09:39
spiderwormoskude: it captures 30 FPS with Blender just fine :D09:39
oskudespiderworm, nice09:40
KybishopI've got a labtech optical usb mouse with two buttons and a scroll wheel (that you can click) when im using the mouse, it randomly jumps to the corners of the screen (about once every 5 minutes or so, sometimes more often)09:40
oskudespiderworm, btw, audio recording should work too09:40
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spiderwormoskude: oh really?  i didnt know it recorded mike at the same time.  are you sure?09:40
curley_sue_jason, lullabud got to go. thanx for all the help!09:40
doubletwistsoundray good luck with that...09:40
oskudespiderworm, look in the preferences, there you can set audio too09:41
spiderwormomg you are right.  crazy :)09:41
Kyralmeh anyone know how to reset the status bar in Irssi?09:41
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spiderwormWHY is there no ubuntu package of this app????!09:41
ernzGnomeFreak, I have set VLC as default player, but it still comes up in Mozilla as 'No Picture' where the WMV component is... :(09:41
LinuxJonesspiderworm: what app ?09:41
knanandsays i need superuser privilege... but i have it09:41
polpakspiderworm, which app?09:41
_jasonknanand: put sudo in fron to of the command09:41
oskudespiderworm, you can set the audio device from command line (as all other settings too) with "--audio_in"09:41
ernzI have set VLC as default player, but it still comes up in Mozilla as 'No Picture' where the WMV component is... :(09:42
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htrpwhen you see somethin like this: load average: 0.04, 0.25, 0.1509:42
knanandbash: sudu: command not found09:42
oskudespiderworm, ah, i somehow remembered ther where no device selection in the gui, but seems i forgot wrong09:42
htrpwhich one is which?09:42
LinuxJonesernz: WMV is a piece of crap09:42
htrpi mean what is 0.0409:42
soundraydoubletwist: I had no idea how cheap Socket A boards have become... I think one of them is going to be the answer.09:42
htrpand what is 0.25 and 0.1509:43
tarzeauhtrp: 15,5,1, man uptime09:43
tarzeauhtrp: load average09:43
ernzLinuxJones, I am aware of this....But it doesn't help my problem.09:43
htrpi know09:43
htrpwhat are those three?09:43
patrick52222is there a type of norton ghost for linux09:43
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sfar-ubuwhats the command to kill every process with the name "totem" ?09:43
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doubletwistsoundray oh yeah they're cheap now...09:43
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ernzLinux is supposed to be able to support everything (Yes, even crap)09:43
sfar-ubuor *totem*09:43
LinuxJonespatrick52222: mondo09:43
_jasonsfar-ubu: killall totem09:43
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oskudespiderworm, maybe the developer of x/gvidcap would be inspired if he get an email from ubuntu :)09:43
sfar-ubuthank you mistar09:43
spiderwormoskude: heh maybe09:43
lawineernz: could be that it's unsupported codec. also mplayer has trouble with certain types of WMV09:44
spiderwormif i knew how to do it myself, i'd package it right up09:44
knanandError again - bash: sudu: command not found09:44
axisyswhere can I find a linux driver for konica minolata 250? http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Minolta dont have that09:44
htrptarzeau!09:44
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ernzAhhh09:44
_jasonKarlprof: s u d o09:44
axisysor should i be able to use anyone?09:44
lawineknanand: SUDO09:44
_jasonknanand: ^09:44
oskudespiderworm, but he writes (in forum) hes just too busy to work on gvidcap09:44
ernzHow would I go about installing this..."Mplayer" in Ubuntu?09:44
_jasonKarlprof: apologies :)09:44
Karlprof_jason?09:44
KarlprofOh09:44
KarlprofK09:44
LinuxJonespatrick52222:  >> http://oldwww.mondorescue.org/index.html09:44
sfar-ubu_jason, that didnt work for me tho.. even with "sudo killall totem"09:44
lawineernz: mplayer is in the Universe or Multiverse repo09:45
axisysernz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MPlayerCVS?highlight=%28mplayer%2909:45
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_jasonlawine: multiverse09:45
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_jasonsfar-ubu: kill -9 it09:45
axisysernz: that is what i followed to install09:45
knananddpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of java-gcj-compat:09:45
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tarzeauhtrp: man uptime09:45
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sfar-ubukill -9 <pid>, right?09:45
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doubletwistsfar-ubu also make sure the running process doesn't have a different name like 'totem-bin' or something. run  "ps auxwww |grep totem" to see09:45
arrickdoubletwist, thansk I got it now, I had to reboot09:46
yohani just compiled 2.6.16 and alsa doesnt work...it returs alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device....do i need to recompile the kernel or can i add alsa somehow?09:46
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doubletwistarrick Ah... and it works?09:46
arrickyeah09:46
doubletwistarrick Sweeeet09:46
protocol1whats the bare minimum an ubuntu os can run on?09:46
axisysso can i use another minolta printer driver since they don't have the one i am looking for?09:46
arrickit rebuilt the fstab after I deleted the usb entry09:46
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ernzExcellent Axisys - I will give it a shot and let you know how I do.09:46
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axisysernz: np09:46
sfar-ubudoubletwist, i looked it up without the "www",, what does that do? (btw it was only called totem)09:46
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radioHelp09:47
arrickdoubletwist, how do you play .wav files in ubuntu?09:47
sfar-ubu"root     21130  0.0  1.5  20212  8144 pts/0    T    20:35   0:00 totem09:47
sfar-ubu" <- shouldnt "sudo killall totem" work for that?09:47
sfar-ubuops09:47
doubletwistsfar-ubu it just forces it to show the entire command and wrap it to the next line if it is too long to fit on the screen.09:47
radioHow can i Install Winamp in .rpm?09:47
tristanmike!tell arrick about w32codecs09:47
knanandThis is wat i get - dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of java-gcj-compat:09:47
arrickwma that is09:47
axisysernz: if this one `fakeroot debian/rules binary' does not work just skip it..09:47
doubletwistsfar-ubu without the www it just shows what it can fit on one line.09:47
soundrayprotocol1, it'll install on a 486 probably. But if you actually want to do something, you need something beefier. It depends on *what* you want to do, though.09:47
doubletwistsfar-ubu probably only 1 or 2 w's are needed but I got in the habit of using www. :)09:48
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sfar-ubu=D09:48
radioHow can i Install Winamp in .rpm?09:48
doubletwistarrick You'll need the w32codecs09:48
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yohani just compiled 2.6.16 and alsa doesnt work...it returs alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device....do i need to recompile the kernel or can i add alsa somehow? anyone know a guide to alsa?09:48
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Kybishopdoes anyone know a reasource for correct mouse configurations under xorg.config09:48
radioCan somone help me?09:48
axisysradio: do u have the .rpm file?09:48
ernzAxisys - Where is Sources.list?09:49
protocol1soundray, installing fluxbox on it for a low-end machine....something around 200mhz09:49
radioYeas09:49
soundrayprotocol1: I have a 300MHz Celeron machine with 192 MB. It's too slow for gnome, okay for XFCE.09:49
radioHang on09:49
duelboothelp please:  when I go to logout, nothing gets highlighted on mouseover and when I click I can't see the button (or any buttons on the choices)...It does let me logout, but I can't see the option checked09:49
MadRushernz: /etc/apt/sources.list09:49
axisyscat /etc/apt/sources.list09:49
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GNU_Styleubuntu or kubuntu?09:49
ernzTanx Madrush09:49
protocol1or 233mhx09:49
GNU_Stylewhich is better for desktop?09:49
protocol1233mhz*09:49
doubletwistradio You sure its winamp? That's just a windows program. XMMS or beep-media-player are clones.09:49
sfar-ubu[3] -  Killed  sudo totem09:49
sfar-ubu <- might that be why "killall totem" didn't work? because it was called "sudo totem" or something? :)09:49
axisysradio: just run this09:49
doubletwistI'm a big fan of XFCE...09:49
doubletwistI use it even on my beefy machines.09:49
axisysradio: dpkg -i <rpm file>09:49
radio:S:S09:50
doubletwistsfar-ubu yeah09:50
axisysradio:  scratch that09:50
bimberiGNU_Style: a matter of opinion, try both and decide for yourself :)09:50
axisysradio: alien -i <rpm>09:50
radioI am littelbit Confused this is my first time at Linux09:50
sfar-ubudoubletwist, so .. why didnt ps aux say that? :)09:50
arrickwhat media player do I want in order to play wma files?09:50
axisysthen use the deb pkg that alien is create to install like this dpkg -i <deb pkg>09:50
knanand _jason: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of java-gcj-compat09:50
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soundrayprotocol1, ubuntu is probably not the ideal distribution for that kind of hardware.09:50
doubletwistsfar-ubu DUnno09:50
knanandalso says : Package libgcj6-common is not installed.09:51
radioHow can i Unzipe .rpm09:51
radio?09:51
ernzMadrush / Axisys - It is saying I am not the owner, so I can't edit the sources.list file - What the hell?09:51
doubletwistarrick Once you have the w32codecs installed, just about any audio player should work I think.09:51
LinuxJonesradio, we have all been there ;)09:51
arrickok thanks09:51
protocol1k09:51
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axisysdoubletwist: hwo do u like xfce?09:51
doubletwistradio you don't unzip it...09:51
doubletwistaxisys I love XFCE :)09:51
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axisysdoubletwist: may be i should give it a shot09:51
radioHey Who can help me add me on MSN at daniboy86hotmail.com09:51
LinuxJonesradio, Debian based systems don't use .rpm packages by default what package are you trying to install ?09:51
radioWhat then'09:52
radio'09:52
radio?09:52
doubletwistaxisys You can take a look at it at http://www.xfce.org09:52
duelbooternz did you sudo?09:52
oskudespiderworm, btw, here are the latest news about gvidcap, http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1412583&forum_id=34269809:52
knanand???09:52
axisysdoubletwist: i know.. just nvr got arnd it09:52
LinuxJonesradio, what app are you trying to install ?09:52
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radioI am trying to Install a Winamp09:52
doubletwistaxisys I customize it a little bit though09:52
spiderwormoskude: thank you!09:52
ernzDuelboot?09:52
arrickdoubletwist, is there no audio player for saved music installed by default?09:52
axisysradio: just do this `alien -i <rpm pkg>'09:52
knanandhelp me plzzz09:52
radioWhere?09:52
radio:S09:52
LinuxJonesradio, have you tried Linux based music players ?09:52
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radiono09:53
Kybishopis it possible to download sndconfig for ubuntu?09:53
kyncaniradio: yon don't want winamp, you want something like amarok, xmms, gxine, rhythmbox, ...09:53
axisysdo u have the rpm file?09:53
soundrayradio, any reason why you don't want a nice Linux player?09:53
radioYeas09:53
duelbooternz:  came in late to your discussion...how are you trying to update the list?09:53
Kybishopor is it a red hat only program09:53
doubletwistaxisys Since XFCE doesn't support icons on the desktop [it will in the future] , I run Nautilus as the desktop [and filemanager]  and make sure that gnome-volume-manager is running in the background to automount usb/cd drives.09:53
ernzUsing a txteditor09:53
axisysradio: so run this command on your terminal .. alien -i <rpm pkg>09:53
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doubletwistradio from a terminal run "sudo apt-get install xmms" and it will install a clone of winamp.09:53
oskudespiderworm, and as it looks like to be a gnome program, ubuntu could get interested :) (maybe they can hire him;)09:53
duelbooternz did you sudo to the txteditor?09:53
ernzWhat does that mean Duelboot?09:53
doubletwistarrick Um.. I think ubuntu defaults to using Totem. But I don't like it much.09:54
arrickdoubletwist, whats a good one?09:54
ernzSudo sources.list?09:54
duelbooternz: did you get to it from a terminal window?09:54
ernzNo09:54
ernzNautilis09:54
doubletwistarrick I've been using amarok to play my music [which is all in Flac format] . Otherwise I use xmms or beep-media-player.09:54
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duelbooternz:  dunno then...sorry09:54
doubletwistarrick gxine [which I use for video]  also plays audio though.09:54
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ernzk09:54
arrickall mine is in the windows media player format, wma, cause i just switched over to ubuntu09:55
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patrick52222how do i run mondo09:55
ernzDuelboot - I am trying to install mplayer or some other media player to play WMV (Shit files) through Mozilla09:55
radio:S:S09:55
knanandplease help me : i have problem adding apps plz09:55
radioWhen shut i run this?09:55
LinuxJonespatrick52222: did you install it from teh universe repo ?09:55
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doubletwistarrick The cool thin about amarok is that it can use several different codec engines [xine, gstreamer etc]  to play the songs.09:55
patrick52222i got it from synaptics09:55
doubletwistarrick Did you get the w32codecs? [I think they're in universe or multiverse] 09:56
Snake__Has anyone gotten ubuntu to run on a Compaq Presario 1900? (It isnt listed on the wiki)09:56
nikiis there another limewire client for linux besides frostwire?  frostwire doesn't seem to want to get along with my computer for some reason...09:56
duelbooternz:  you can use synaptic:  search for plugins...and look for the mplayer plugin and install09:56
bimberi!tell niki about limewire09:56
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nikibimberi, ah, thank you :)09:56
radioHow can i run .rpm?:S:S09:56
arrickyeah, they're finishing now09:56
ernzI tried that duelboot09:56
Snake__My apologized, a Compaq Presario 210009:56
patrick52222linuxjones: i got it from synaptic09:57
bimberiniki: np :)09:57
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sfar-ubuwhat does this mean when i try to play an mp3 in totem: "totem could not play blabla.mp3. Failed to play: Could not open resource for writing." ?09:57
ernzSaid something about incompatible09:57
LinuxJonespatrick52222: best to read the howto on the mondo website09:57
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doubletwistradio You can't "run" an rpm. It is a package to install software. You need to install it using "alien"09:57
bimberi!tell radio about alien09:57
duelbooternz...hmmmmm09:57
gnomefreakubotu tell sfar-ubu about bp309:57
gnomefreakubotu tell sfar-ubu about mp309:57
doubletwistsfar-ubu Perhaps you don't have permissions to /dev/dsp?09:57
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bimberiradio: btw alien can be installed from the ubuntu repositories09:58
sfar-ubugnomefreak, been there :)09:58
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sfar-ubudoubletwist, so "sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp" might do the trick?09:58
ernzI was able to install FDD show before using LiveCD, but not using the proper install to the hard disk09:58
soundraysfar-ubu: it could be a hanging program hogging your sound device. Rebooting often helps.09:58
radioWhere do i go to Install it?09:58
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bimberi!tell rado about install09:58
RamziesHelp please09:59
soundray!helpme09:59
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.09:59
gnomefreakradio: sudo apt-get install alien   but i would see if you can find a .deb instead of an .rpm09:59
oskudespiderworm, ok, ill go to lurk in #ubuntu-offtopic and watch tv, cu and gl :)09:59
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arrickdoubletwist, I have them installed, how do I get a music player?09:59
sfar-ubusoundray, do you know if its possible to check if something is hogging my sound device?09:59
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spiderwormoskude: thanks for your help, & have fun!10:00
soundraysfar-ubu: with lsof apparently, but I don't know the syntax10:00
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doubletwistarrick well you could just apt-get install whichever one you like. You might go ahead and try it in totem first though just to see if it works.10:00
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sfar-ubusoundray, thanks ill check it out10:01
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Ramziessudo /home/endru/hiks/hiks.exe10:01
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Ramziesbash: hiks.exe: command not fond10:01
arrickok10:01
RamziesWhu?10:01
doubletwistarrick Or try gxine which I know at least works fine with windows video codecs.10:01
timmy334how do I change the ubuntu logo on the Applications menu in Gnome?10:01
shadowCan someone tell me when the fstab bug will be fixed, so i don't keep getting 7 unmountable floppies10:01
doubletwistarrick or of course you can search for them in Synaptic to install them from the GUI, but I find the CLI is much faster :)10:01
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shadowi tried latest flight fully updated but it stil shows 7 floppies10:02
r0bby_Ramzies: you DO know that linux doesn;t run windows executables right? well it does but you have to use an emulator such as wine10:02
radioHow can i install .rpm files?10:02
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r0bby_man rpm10:02
soundrayRamzies: sounds like you are trying to run a Windows or DOS program. Ubuntu runs Linux programs.10:02
doubletwistradio We've been answering you for 20 minutes. Why do you keep asking the same question?10:02
arrickdoubletwist, totem says there were not codecs installed to handle them10:02
ernzWhy do I keep getting "bash: cvs: command not found10:03
ernz"10:03
radioi am confused in linux10:03
r0bby_doubletwist: try the direct approach: type "man rpm"10:03
doubletwistarrick try installing gxine [and maybe gstreamer-xine] 10:03
r0bby_w/o quotyes10:03
LinuxJonesradio, sudo apt-get install alien (enter your user password)10:03
r0bby_and read it10:03
r0bby_take notes10:03
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Ramziessoundray The program for Linux!10:03
arrickThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins10:03
r0bby_then follow directions10:03
arrickok10:03
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soundrayRamzies: if it was, it wouldn't end in .exe10:03
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LinuxJonesradio, this probably won't work btw :)10:04
r0bby_best advice i can give you radio10:04
doubletwistRadio If you are confused by this, then I think you need to take a step back, and do some reading on the basics of ubuntu [or debian on which it is based]  and linux in general.10:04
arrickdoubletwist, no such package10:04
arrickyou got a link?10:04
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shadowcan anyone help me?10:04
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doubletwistFor which, gxine or the gstreamer one?10:04
soundray!helpme10:04
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.10:04
r0bby_http://packages.ubuntu.com10:04
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Ramziessoundray If I press 2 times on the program. All works10:04
r0bby_search for the packaeg :)10:04
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r0bby_package*10:05
doubletwistarrick oops I think gstreamer one is like gstreamer0.8-xine [you can do an "apt-cache search gstreamer" ]  to get a list of what's available.10:05
kreegeehm, what do i need to play shoutcast with rhythmbox ?10:05
kreegeei don't get it working10:05
arrickok10:05
shadowgstreamer-mad10:05
kreegeexmms plays fine so far10:05
kreegeemp3-files play too10:05
DarthShrineIs there any way to stop text-wrapping in nano10:05
kreegeewell, will try that10:05
LinuxJoneskreegee: probably mp3 playback codecs10:05
kreegeegot them10:05
shadowgstreamer-mad will allow shoutcast10:05
soundrayRamzies: and now you want to run it with root permissions?10:05
Ramziessoundray She needs to be started through root. Whu?10:06
LinuxJoneskreegee: do you know what kind of stream it is (what codec their using )10:06
tristanmikegstreamer0.8-mad10:06
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kreegeemp310:06
kreegeewell, it's radioparadise.com10:06
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Ramziessoundray YES10:06
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kreegeethey have a variety of codecs10:06
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kreegeemp3/aac/ram/wma10:06
kreegeei guess mp3 is the easiest on linux10:06
doubletwistradio: rpm files are made for Redhat [and dirivitives] . They are not made to be used in Ubuntu...10:06
radiook10:07
doubletwistradio: Because of that in order to install it in Ubuntu, you need to convert it to a format that Ubuntu understands10:07
Ramziessoundray  How to start?10:07
doubletwistradio: The program that does that is called 'alien'10:07
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radioIs that in the Ubuntu?10:08
soundrayRamzies: try 'sudo -i ; cd /home/endru/hiks ; ./hiks.exe'10:08
r0bby_sudo apt-get install alien10:08
kreegeeinstalled mad (was onyl available for gstreamer0.8) - no change10:08
kreegeewhat do i need on dapper?10:08
doubletwistradio: in order to install alien, you need either use Synaptic [available in the menus somewhere, I forget :) ]  or use a terminal window [like the DOS prompt] 10:08
Ramziessoundray thanks10:08
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r0bby_somebody should explain that linux doesn't execute windows/dos apps10:08
shadowbuso, asking again, the bug in Dapper, which results in 7 floppies showing, how can i fix it, i removed all extras from fstab and /media...but still nothing changes...i even tried my fsta from Breezy...nothing worked, still show 7 unmountable floppies10:08
MadRushokay shoot me for newbism but can i install a i386 package on my x86_64 system?10:08
analfabeta_hi! how can i listen mp3 in kubuntu drapper?10:08
soundrayr0bby_ we're past that stage.10:08
doubletwistarrick Doh my bad... just install gxine10:09
tristanmike!dapper10:09
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)10:09
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duelbooternz:  go read this   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:09
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doubletwistradio if you use the terminal, the command to install alien is [without the quotes]  "sudo apt-get install alien"10:09
MisterNhi10:09
arrickI tried 'sudo apt-get install gxine' and no such animal10:09
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KyralMhe anyone know a good graphing program10:09
analfabeta_!mp310:09
ubotump3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:09
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r0bby_to search a list of packages you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com10:10
doubletwistarrick Hrm... maybe it's just in universe? Can't remember now10:10
KyralI really don't wanna use MSOffice10:10
r0bby_it's really neat :)10:10
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arrickhow do I find it?10:10
r0bby_it'll tell you what repository it's in10:10
doubletwistarrick I know it work for me though :)10:10
arrickgoogle?10:10
soundrayKyral: I've tried a lot of them, stuck with gnumeric in the end.10:10
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eggzeckarrick, apt-cache :)10:11
Heroinhi10:11
eggzeckarrick, apt-cache search xine10:11
doubletwistarrick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gxine&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all10:11
deizianyone? i have some problems with azuerus/kubuntu... when i try to open ports, it says it's in use etc.10:11
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Kyralsoundray: given a spreadsheet, can it graph a best-fit line?10:11
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JoeMorrisdo you u bun tu10:12
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talentumprotalenhello fellow ubuntians10:12
talentumprotaleni bun too10:12
Heroinsudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop, but if i want to upgrade do i chance it to kubuntu-base kubuntu-desktop?10:12
soundrayKyral: it has a linest function if that's what you mean.10:12
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doubletwistHeroin I think you just need to use kubuntu-desktop10:12
Heroinubuntu base is universal?10:13
MadRushyesh10:13
Kyralyah10:13
Heroinah ok.. thank you10:13
doubletwistHeroin it is depended on b kubuntu-desktop so it will install automatically.10:13
Kyralouch10:13
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gnomefreakwont ubuntu-desktop bring  in ubuntu-base?10:13
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Heroinubuntu-desktop is gnome which i despise10:13
ubuntuhello10:13
MadRushkubuntu-desktop is ... kde10:14
doubletwistHeroin I use xubuntu-desktop [XFCE]  which I love :)10:14
ubuntuoh well10:14
gnomefreakHeroin: ok kubuntu-desktop should bring in kde-base10:14
Kyralthe Desktop packages all depend on Ubuntu-base and -minimal10:14
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michoelchi all. i was here a few hours ago, i cant get xserver to start after i installed ubuntu. how do i fimnd out what my video card is etc to do the sudo xserver reconfigure. thanks10:14
CyorxampHi, I want to install my printer... how do I do that?10:14
Cyorxamp!printer10:14
ubotuprinter is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org10:14
CyorxampAh ha!10:14
talentumprotaleni prefer kde to gnome so i bet ku**** is great? scale of 1 to 10?10:14
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eggzeckI prefer gnome :)10:15
arrickdou10:15
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doubletwistmichoelc Try "lspci" can give you a clue as to what video card is installed. Or dmesg |more10:15
jadamsI prefer gnome10:15
hostelloHi, how can I get some plug-ins to view mpeg files?10:15
jadamsI didn't like kubuntu in breezy10:15
doubletwistmichoelc Last resort, open the case and look at the video card :)10:15
jadamshaven't tried it in dapper10:15
eggzeckthat's two for gnome :)10:15
MadRushi only use kde because i sat down one day and had to decide which to remove to free up space10:15
chuckyp!tell hostello about restricted10:15
arrickdoubletwist, do I want the i386 or the powerpc user version?10:15
MadRushif your on an intel computer i38610:15
MadRushif your on a mac powerpc10:15
doubletwistarrick powerpc will only be if you're on a mac10:15
Eleafhi10:15
talentumprotalengnome i definitely do not "despise" but i like power over my verbosity10:15
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Heroini dont know.. i just really dont like using gnome10:16
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chuckypThey're both the same10:16
talentumprotalenwhich gnome attempts to snag from me (chuckle)10:16
arrickok10:16
doubletwistarrick But as long as the universe entries in /etc/apt/sources.list are uncommented [and you then run apt-get update]  then apt-get install gxine should work fine.10:16
__filip_Somebody know how to get utf-8 in gnome-commander?10:16
talentumprotaleni dont know if id go that far. similiar but not the same10:16
raviolihi, xmms does not work on my ubuntu. it says "check that 1. your sound card is configured properly etc."10:17
chuckypIts all the same the are becomming closer and closer together.  I prefere gnome just because I like they less bells and whistles look.  Also once you see the speed of 2.14 you will agree.10:17
MadRushi dont prefer either, i just use kde because i needed to pick one10:17
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sfar-ubuhow do i get gdesklets to start automatically when i log in to x?10:17
chuckypsfar-ubu, add it to .gnomerc if you are using gnome10:18
soundraysfar-ubu: System-Preferences-Session10:18
arrickok10:18
raviolihowever, sounds work on another account.10:18
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ravioliany ideas, anyone?10:18
arrickdoubletwist, I forgot about that on this install10:18
soundrayravioli: sudo adduser ravioli audio10:18
chuckypsfar-ubu, or soundray's way10:18
doubletwistravioli Maybe you need to add the user to audio10:18
doubletwistthe audio group10:18
sfar-ubu:) thank yous10:18
doubletwistyeah what soundray said.10:18
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michoelcdoubletwist: what it says im pretty sure is what it detected in the reconfigure. but still a blank screen. where else could the problem be? or is it maybe diff and i should try what u say and open the case?10:19
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scoopexhow can i play dvds with xine on ubuntu ? it seems that xine doesn`t know how to handle dvds, do i need to install some libraries ?10:19
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lullabud!dvd10:20
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)10:20
doubletwistmichoelc Check /var/log/Xorg.log.0 [I think that's the filename] . Near the end of that file it might give clues as to why it isn't displaying.10:20
soundraymichoelc: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Towards the end of the file, you may see an error message...10:20
gnomefreakubotu tell scoopex about restricted10:20
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soundraydoubletwist: you overtook me in mid-sentence. :)10:21
CyorxampOk... so my Lexmark I3 is not listed in the list - now what?10:21
doubletwisthehe10:21
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doubletwistI've been chatting online for 15 years.. I've had a lot of practice.10:21
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doubletwistLexmark? My condolences.10:21
Heroin15years!?10:21
Heroinso u used talk and stuff?10:22
Cyorxampdoubletwist - this ones actually rather nice10:22
doubletwisthehe Well I started on local BBS's.10:22
Cyorxampit's -not- a top loader10:22
chs_irc is ~15 years old10:22
snoopy_i have a default installation of ubuntu 5.10 breezy and it does not put /home in a seperate partition (correct?) and i was wondering if i could change that now and put it on a separate partition so i dont lose anything when updating etc..10:22
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davidmoore83my cdrom is not being recognised how can i make sure its mounted and recognised?10:22
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gustavo__estoy intentando installar kde10:22
doubletwistCyorxamp My problem with them is the highly proprietary nature of Lexmark itself.10:22
arrickdoubletwist, helps if i updat apt-get at the same time right?10:22
Cyorxampdoubletwist - Ah I see10:22
doubletwistsnoopy_ Yes you can do that.10:22
talentumprotalentelnet10:22
doubletwistarrick Yes10:22
CyorxampSo much for dapper :S10:22
chuckypdoubletwist, bbs's rocked I remembered a local one the other day went hunting around for it sadly its long gone.  but I found references to it on the net.  I should write the owner that I want my 5$ lifetime membership fee back.10:23
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arrickdoubletwist, o I need to restart apt-get as well after the update?10:23
doubletwistsnoopy_ Well maybe you can do that...10:23
raviolisoundray: ok now i got some sound.. so the mixer works. still no success with xmms10:23
davidmoore83FAILED - could not access cdrom:10:23
davidmoore83Either create a symbolic link /dev/cdrom pointing to your cdrom device or set your cdrom device in the preferences dialog.10:23
CyorxampThink I'm gonna have to go bad to windows folks - I can't abandon my new printer10:23
doubletwistarrick uh, what do you mean?10:23
michoelck checked that log. ends of as follows: mouse configuration sucessfulll. then a bunch of warning about font renderners alllready registered.10:23
CyorxampSoftware should work for hardware - not other way around10:23
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talentumprotalenWindows! Noooo.10:23
CyorxampSorry!10:23
Cyorxamplol10:23
doubletwistCyorxamp I agree. But Lexmark won't let it10:23
talentumprotalensay it aint so (wink)10:23
soundrayravioli: configure xmms to use esd sound output. Better yet, use beep-media-player instead :)10:23
doubletwistCyorxamp Which is why I hate Lexmark.10:23
chuckyptalentumprotalen, what do you want to do?10:23
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tristanmikeCyorxamp: how new...? returnable? :P10:23
CyorxampI aint much for them but this model was cheap and it didn't have the quality that most lexmarks did - top loading10:24
Cyorxampit's like a set-top box - fits underneath my pc :P10:24
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arrickdoubletwist, after the update, is it done or do I somehow have to restart the spt-get program?10:24
Heroinsorry to ask another qeustion, but when i dist-upgrade it doesnt install a new gnome right?10:24
talentumprotalenim just goofin around i know well the necessity for microsoft at times.10:24
doubletwistsnoopy_ If you have another HD that you can use, then you can. But just resizing the partitions on a single HD to do that, I think it is possible, but beyond my knowledge.10:24
davidmoore83FAILED - could not access cdrom:10:24
davidmoore83Either create a symbolic link /dev/cdrom pointing to your cdrom device or set your cdrom device in the preferences dialog.10:24
tristanmikeHeroin: yes it does, if you're upgrading10:24
doubletwistarrick No, once the apt-get update is complete, you're ready to go.10:24
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arrickok10:24
arrickthanks10:24
arrickdavidmoore83, morning10:24
Herointristanmike does it get gnome if i dont have it installed?10:24
nillaxwhat linux distro would you guys recommend for a SOHO router/web server/db server?10:25
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vladuz976what's a good cd ripper to mp3 ?10:25
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CyorxampCall me stupid but.... Network Driver wrapper - ok plausable (and done).... a graphics card one - veeery difficult.... but surely a windows printer driver wrapper should not be hard?!10:25
davidmoore83arrick: evening10:25
tristanmikeHeroin: i wouldn't think so10:25
soundrayvladuz976: abcde10:25
Heroinnillax for my webserver i did a debian net install, and then loaded it with apache and such10:25
tristanmikeHeroin: you mean if you installed Kubuntu and removed Ubuntu ?10:25
Swedish_Chefargh10:25
doubletwistCyorxamp Dunno, I'm not a programmer.10:25
arrickdavidmoore83, I forgot you were north of me not east or west10:25
Swedish_Chefmy scroll wheel has become hypersensitive lately...10:25
Heroinwell i did a server install of ubuntu, iam not installing KDE-desktop, and iam then going to dist upgrade :P10:25
chuckypUbuntu needs a net install10:25
Heroinnot = now*10:26
davidmoore83you got a solution to my cdrom issue arrick?10:26
nillaxheroin..do you have any thoughs on FreeBSD?10:26
Swedish_Chefclicking it once when i have something in buffer will paste it 3-4 times instead of just once10:26
arrickdidnt catch it10:26
raviolisoundray: i have oss driver, esound output , disk writer  and alsa output. esound is the choice of the day?10:26
doubletwistCyorxamp I have a very nice Brother HL-1440 laser printer that works GREAT in linux. I think you can get them for < $100 now.10:26
Swedish_Chefis there any way to configure that?10:26
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arrickwhats your issue?10:26
Heroinchuckyp , Server install is a net install10:26
davidmoore83arrick: FAILED - could not access cdrom:10:26
davidmoore83Either create a symbolic link /dev/cdrom pointing to your cdrom device or set your cdrom device in the preferences dialog.10:26
chuckypHeroin, it still copies packages from the cd.10:26
Heroinah ok :S10:26
arrickhang on, check you fstab, or heve you mounted it?10:26
nillaxI have a brother HL-1440...I found it on the street...works great10:26
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chuckypHeroin, i'm talking about a complete net install dl'ng any package needed.10:26
Herointhen a net install would be usefull10:26
vladuz976soundray: what?10:26
void^24.5 fps in glxgears :(10:26
tristanmikeHeroin: then you should be good to go, I wouldn't think that it would install anything that you don't already have installed unless it's a dependency10:27
chuckypHeroin, like the debian netinstall.  Like the 9mb mini-iso10:27
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Heroinchuckyp yes that would be awsome10:27
Cyorxampdoubletwist - I got this one (new) for 30 including postage off eBay10:27
michoelcsoundray: u got anyother suggestions?10:27
soundrayravioli: try that. Alternatively alsa, but then you should disable esd in System-Prefs-Sound10:27
soundrayvladuz976: abcde10:27
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soundray!info abcde10:27
ubotuabcde: (A Better CD Encoder), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.2.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 228 kB10:27
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doubletwistnillax Yeah, I bought mine when they were like $140 new [and even that was CHEAP then] ... I've gotten my money's worth out of it. Had it for like 3 yrs now.10:27
vladuz976soundray: moron?10:27
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nillaxi got this PC i using now from the trash too10:28
soundrayvladuz976: did you or did you not want to know about a program for encoding CDs?10:28
nismoIm trying to watch a video using firefox, i have the mplayer plugin but i cant seem to view it, any suggestions?10:28
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doubletwistCyorxamp You might get some clues to using the Lexmark at http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/lex.html10:28
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chuckypnismo, you need to install the codecs for whatever stream it is10:28
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chuckyp!tell nismo about restricted10:28
vladuz976soundray: what is abcde supposed to be?10:28
doubletwistCyorxamp Looksl ike a few lexmark models have drivers for linux directly from lexmark?10:28
soundray!info abcde10:28
ubotuabcde: (A Better CD Encoder), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.2.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 228 kB10:28
Cyorxampdo they!?10:28
nismok ima check em out10:28
doubletwistCyorxamp They seem to for a Z604 model anyway10:29
vladuz976soundray: sorry then10:29
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soundrayvladuz976: be a *bit* more careful.10:29
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vladuz976soundray: true10:29
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YourNicknameIs anyone here familiar with Evolution that could help me troubleshoot?10:29
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soundraymichoelc: sorry what's the latest on your prob?10:30
WebLOCHHey guys, Ive installed java sdk 1.5, but netbeans still loads 1.4, any ideas or suggestions?10:30
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shuhello10:30
arrickdavidmoore83, I sent you a pm with some info10:30
chuckyp!tell YourNickname about anyone10:30
SaLoMoNre10:30
michoelci wrote what the log  says, its still got a blank screem10:30
SaLoMoNgn810:30
shui want to display the spec of my system10:30
shuanyone know how10:30
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chuckypshu, in irc?10:30
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Jhairshu: the spec? what is that.10:31
doubletwistshu display what about the spec? You can get some info by running "cat /proc/cpuinfo"10:31
shuspecification of my computer10:31
chuckypshu, where do you want ot display them?10:31
shuanywhere10:31
shui jus want to know how much ghz and ram i have310:31
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arrickdoubletwist, hey i got music, thanks for your help10:32
soundraymichoelc: this is before you get a chance to log in, correct?10:32
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doubletwistshu from a terminal "cat /proc/cpuinfo" will show your cpu. and 'free' will show your ram10:32
doubletwistarrick Cool. No problem :)10:32
arrickdoubletwist, how do I ad to the library for gxine?10:32
axisysanyone here used squid.. i am looking for a very very simple config to test10:32
Heroinaxisys i dont use it, but iam wondering what it is :P10:32
chuckypshu, you can use hdparm or something for you hardrive specs if you want.10:33
michoelci can log into the console but not into xserver10:33
doubletwistarrick I dunno, I don't use gxine for music. Now that you've tested it and it works though, you can install amarok and it shoudl work [you might have to tell it in settings to use the xine engine] 10:33
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axisysi guess it is kind a offtopic..sorry about that10:33
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arrickok10:33
Heroinno problem but what kind of prgm is it?10:33
chuckypmichoelc, do you get any errors10:33
YourNicknamechuckyp: how about "why is Evolution generating a generic/cryptic error when confronted with a 207 multi-status response containing a 200 OK in XML format from an OWA interface when using the connector?"10:33
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shuthanks10:33
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renehi ho10:33
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axisysHeroin: squid mainly used as a web rpoxy/caching/filter server10:33
doubletwistaxisys I've used squid in the past [it's been awhile] . Don't think you are gonna find a 'SIMPLE' config :)10:33
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axisysdoubletwist: guess not10:33
chuckypYourNickname, I don't know perhaps someone else will if you ask the them.10:33
doubletwistaxisys But you might see if there is an example config in /usr/share/docs/squid10:34
helppeople how to enable the root on the live cd ??/10:34
michoelcno errors just a blank screen10:34
renecan anyone assist??10:34
axisysdoubletwist: thnx10:34
chuckypYourNickname, Just direct questions with out a name in the front then if someone knows they will mostlikely answer.10:34
tristanmike!ask10:34
help???10:34
arrickdavidmoore83, did the pm help you out, or did you fall off the map?10:34
YourNicknamewhy is Evolution generating a generic/cryptic error when confronted with a 207 multi-status response containing a 200 OK in XML format from an OWA interface when using the connector?10:34
helppeople how to enable the root on the live cd ??/10:34
helppeople how to enable the root on the live cd ??/10:34
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tristanmike!tell help about root10:35
renei just installed ubuntu and tried to start an administration task but root pw will not accepted10:35
nismochuckyp that didnt seem to help me10:35
doubletwistrene You can't log in as root. You need to use sudo.10:35
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help!tell help about root10:35
renelogin via command line works fine10:35
helpchears10:35
davidmoore83arrick:  i have written to you in the PM10:35
arrickok10:35
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doubletwistrene if you absolutely insist on needing a root password you can do a "sudo passwd root" from your user account to set a password.10:35
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arrickid didnt come through10:36
helfrezanyone else disturbed by the radeon x1900 graphics cards from blizzard that are water cooled and draw 150W lol10:36
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reneok10:36
mariux"Memory split (3G/1G user/kernel split (for full 1G low memory))" means that i can disable "high memory" on my 1gb ram system, correct?10:36
Heroin150W!?10:36
d0uglasdebian rulez bitches10:36
renemeans what?10:36
helfrezyep10:36
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helfrezhttp://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/03/27/review_sapphire_blizzard/10:36
mariuxhelfrez: was that me you yesed?10:36
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Heroinwell 150 for the card and the water cooling.. or does the water cooler need a powerthing aswell?10:36
Eleafmeow10:37
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JoeMorrisEhud Olmert!10:37
SeveasEleaf, woof10:37
doubletwistdebian does rule! But so does Ubuntu, and slackware, and zenwalk etc... :)10:37
kbrookshey Seveas10:37
EleafMEOW10:37
Eleafoh I already said that..10:37
Eleaflol10:37
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YourNicknamedoes Evolution not deal well with XML HTTP responses?10:37
kbrooksSeveas: whats new?10:37
helfrezHeroin, looks like for the whole shabang10:37
reneehm where can i do sudo_10:37
nismoIm trying to watch a video using firefox, i have the mplayer plugin but i cant seem to view it, any suggestions?10:37
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Heroinwell i mean a waterpump could use some power10:37
lampshadeHey, what do I need to be able to do hibernation, etc?  Basically I uninstalled laptop-mode for something, then I reinstalled it, but I did not recover the features10:37
kbrooksSeveas: some news from easyubuntu for you: we got the documentation in our SVN10:37
Heroinnismo some already said u need codecs10:38
nismoIve done the restricted formats stuff10:38
helfrezbut i can sympathize with them and the other 5800 users10:38
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nismoyea ive done the codecs10:38
nismostill no dice10:38
Heroinnismo perhaps its a quicktime or realplayer steam?10:38
helfrezi have a 5800 Ultra that comes OClocked from the factory10:38
helfrezand its extremely loud lol10:38
helfrezbut fast10:38
nismoits a flash player stream i belive10:38
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Seveaskbrooks, "what's new"? check the ubuntu-users list, arnieboy has made a complete fool of himslef10:39
Seveasoh wait, that's nothing new...10:39
arrickdoubletwist, Hey, I cant add stuff from my external to the library in Amarok?10:39
kbrooksSeveas, I know.10:39
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CryoToxCan anyone help me with this, I accidently removed the trash icon and the green button that minimizes all windows from my bar at the bottom, any ideas how to get them back?10:39
reneok i did a sudo passwd root but now i cannot start networking anymore?10:39
nismoIm wondering, do any of you guys use firefox???10:39
kbrooksSeveas, He hasnt yet responded to any of those questions10:39
doubletwistarrick You should be able to10:39
nismoFor those that do use firefox. are you able to watch videos from youtube or metacafe?10:40
renesu10:40
kbrooksSeveas, hwe just throws crap balls at us10:40
arrickit only sees the root, and desktop10:40
JoeMorrisdo you, ubuntu? :P10:40
Seveaskbrooks, let me repeat: "oh wait, that's nothing new..."10:40
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davidmoore83arrick: you on msn?10:40
kbrooksSeveas, what's nothing new?10:40
nismo:(10:40
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Seveasarnieboy waving his bullshit wand10:40
Heroinlol10:40
CryoToxAny ideas?10:40
tristanmikenismo: I can from youtube10:40
kbrooksSeveas, umm, excuse me for the language, but i think arnieboy is an asshole10:41
arrickno10:41
davidmoore83arrick: any messenger progs?10:41
chuckypSeveas, have you seen some of the problems with 2.6.15-19-686 kernel?10:41
arrickim on verizon dsl10:41
Seveaskbrooks, please watch your language10:41
reneSorry asking agein for help but if i now try to start up for example add aplication nothing happens10:41
arrickyeah10:41
kbrooksSeveas, he ripped off keyes10:41
arrickyahoo10:41
doubletwistarrick It'll be under root. like /media/sda110:41
nismoare most of the videos from youtube flash ?10:41
arrickok10:41
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tristanmikenismo: no, this one I'm watching now is a video10:41
CryoToxAlso, does anyone know what I need for the command gmake to work?10:41
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nismowhat type of video?10:42
tristanmikenismo: I don't know, it just started playing10:42
chuckypCryoTox, what are you trying to do?10:42
Cyorxamp!deb10:42
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)10:42
renesorry cryotox dont know10:42
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nismowell how did u get youtube working10:42
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nismoi cant do it :(10:42
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arrickok dound it10:42
arrickfound it10:42
nismoHello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player, click here to get the latest flash player.10:42
CyorxampCryoTox - like the name :P10:42
nismoThats what i get at youtube10:42
tristanmikenismo: my guess, "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"10:42
nismofor any video10:43
nismoive done that10:43
tristanmikenismo: gimme the link10:43
nismobut no dice10:43
nismohttp://youtube.com/watch?v=PsRkU7FV4aw10:43
CryoToxchuckyp: I have a source and I need the command gmake, but it says it doens't exist (the scommand) so I was wondering if there was an app i need.10:43
Heroinnismo restart firefox?10:43
nismothats just a random 110:43
Heroinor reboot?10:43
chuckypnismo, I beleieve youtube uses flash but I may be mistaken10:43
nismoer reboot?10:43
chuckypCryoTox, install build-essential10:43
nismoyoutube does use flash, but tristan is able to watch videos off it10:43
gnomefreakoh crap i didnt see that before10:43
tristanmikenismo: that's a video, oddly enough that's the one I was watching :P10:43
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renebye10:43
renequit10:43
nismowhen i go on youtube10:43
nismothis is the error i get10:44
nismoHello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player, click here to get the latest flash player.10:44
tristanmikenismo: so do you have flash and java installed ?10:44
nismoyes10:44
tristanmikehow?10:44
CryoToxchuckyp: "install to few arguments'10:44
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tristanmike....please don't say automatix10:44
nismooddly enough though10:44
ShameejaisHi10:44
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nismowhen i go to about:plugins on firefox10:44
nismothe only plugin that shows up is the flash one10:45
chuckypnismo, I'm able to watch videos off of it I install flash accoriding to the restricted wiki page.10:45
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arrickdoubletwist, when I open the sda1 folder there is nothing showing, and its 160 gigs of music10:45
nismoi did that chucky :(10:45
arrickwhy is that?10:45
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tristanmikenismo: so you installed blackdown java? or the one from sun's site ?10:45
chuckypCryoTox, sudo apt-get install build-essential   its a package that will install most of the compiliers you need for installing from source.10:45
nismoer from synaptic10:45
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chuckypCryoTox, what app are you trying to install it may already be in the sources.10:46
doubletwistarrick It doesn't show the individual files. You just check the box next to the sda1 and it will automatically load all the music that is in there.10:46
tristanmikenismo: but using the wiki I assume10:46
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CryoToxthanks, and I'm trying to install Synchronet BBS10:46
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nismoi used the wiki10:46
davidmoore83my cd drive wont eject now!10:46
nismoabsolutly no help at all lol10:46
CryoToxbbl10:47
nismoi did what it said10:47
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nismoi installed the stuff10:47
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nismoetc etc but still cant watch vids10:47
ipfaffHey! Has anyone had anyluck with the Lexmark X7170? I just purchased this printer and can not get it to print. I went to System->Admin->Printing.....ubuntu discovered the printer and recommended the appropriate drivers; however, when I try to print nothing happens and I do not recieve error messages? Please Help!!!10:47
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chuckypCryoTox, maybe try apt-cache search synchronet see if you find anything in the repos or use synaptic to search if not then install build essentials to build it from source.10:47
tristanmikenismo: do you have the w32codec ?10:47
nismoyea i got them10:47
nismowget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb10:47
nismo  sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb10:47
chuckypnismo, I would just make sure you have java installed according to the page as well.10:47
tristanmikeyou are using Breezy ?10:47
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nismolemme try that chucky10:48
nismomight as well right :)10:48
arrickdoubletwist, ok, what about if they're in folders in there>?10:48
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doubletwistarrick It will load everything under them. As a matter of fact, if you just checked the box next to the root , it would load every music file on your entire system [might take awhile to scan though :) ] 10:48
arrickdoubletwist, each cd is a folder10:48
ipfaffHey! Has anyone had anyluck with the Lexmark X7170? I just purchased this printer and can not get it to print. I went to System->Admin->Printing.....ubuntu discovered the printer and recommended the appropriate drivers; however, when I try to print nothing happens and I do not recieve error messages? Please Help!!!10:48
doubletwistarrick it doesn't show those CD folders either though?10:49
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arrickdoubletwist, or is it taking a while to seach the drive? nope10:49
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doubletwisthmmm10:49
nismo....10:49
arrickbut I can click on the desktop and it opens right up10:49
doubletwistarrick Dunno then. But you can view it via Nautilus [or whatever filemanager] 10:49
doubletwistUm...10:49
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doubletwistGot me stumped :)10:49
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Herointumpty tumpty tump :D KDE is up and running10:50
ipfaffHey! Has anyone had anyluck with the Lexmark X7170? I just purchased this printer and can not get it to print. I went to System->Admin->Printing.....ubuntu discovered the printer and recommended the appropriate drivers; however, when I try to print nothing happens and I do not recieve error messages? Please Help!!!10:50
arrickanybody been following doubletwist and arrick's conversations?10:50
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Heroinsometimes10:50
soundrayipfaff, can you check that cupsd is running pls10:50
doubletwistarrick just for grins you can try xmms or beep-media-player [or rhythmbox but I had trouble getting it to work with some codecs like flac] 10:50
arrickThe lexmark x7170 only has a developers distribution available for a driver and it dont work on mine10:51
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arrickok10:51
nismohmm10:51
kbrookshow doi find the current version of gstreamer installed thru the cli?10:51
nismoi think its possible that i didnt have java10:51
arrickipfaff, did you see my post10:51
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chuckypkbrooks, dpkg -l | grep gstreamer10:51
arrickThe lexmark x7170 only has a developers distribution available for a driver and it dont work on mine10:51
nismoon the sun site, the file is 46 mb, on synaptic it was much smaller10:51
ipfaffreally10:51
ipfaffso no luck then10:52
arricknope10:52
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nismowell since its 46 mb, ima get a drink, brb10:52
arricknot unless you want to develope a driver10:52
ipfafflast two days of vacation10:52
lampshadeseriously, ANYONE, Hibernation?10:52
ipfaffprobably not10:52
chuckyplampshade, hibernation works for me on my laptop.10:53
doubletwistlampshade I haven't messed with hibernation in linxu yet10:53
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boci^ breezy to drapper10:53
delphiukis hibernation supposed to work on dekstops?10:53
doubletwistarrick Good luck with that. I need to focus and get some work done, so I'll just be lurking for awhile...10:53
boci^hi10:53
chuckyplampshade, but i'm using dapper so i'm not much help to you i'm sure.10:53
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boci^I upgraded breezy to drapper, but it's say QMAIL_DIR is a wrong environment variable10:53
boci^because I want to use maildir , not the shit mbox10:54
chuckypdelphiuk, I don't see why it wouldn't let me try it brb.10:54
tristanmikenismo: if you don't absolutely need the bleeding edge java, I'd stick with the "blackdown" one, it's easier, I've not to experience a problem with it yet10:54
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lampshadewell it isn't that it didn't work at all, it was working, then I was reading a forum post, so then I uninstalled it as that post said, or actually I should say I took out laptop-mode and when that package left, I lost hibernation and suspend in one swoop.  Now I got nothing10:54
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deejrosshello, I am having a problem getting my jabber server to work...can anyone help me?10:54
concept10what package will remove all of the afce desktop10:54
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nismowell i have the blackdown 110:54
soundraylampshade: reinstall laptop-mode-tools then?10:54
nismobut apparently it doesnt seem to work10:55
concept10err.. thats the XFCE desktop10:55
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delphiukchuckyp: thanks. i should have mentioned that I was playing with dapper10:55
lampshadesoundray, no help :-/10:55
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tristanmike!dapper10:55
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)10:55
levanderIsn't there a macos channel on freenode?  I just can't remember it's specific name.10:55
soundraylampshade: do you remember whether you hibernated via ACPI or you suspended via the kernel swsusp stuff?10:55
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lampshadesoundray, couldn't tell you, it worked out of the box-- the usual hibernate and suspend on the logout menu.10:56
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deejrosshello????10:56
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_harmah10:56
_harmcan some one tell me howto upgrade from 5.04 to 5.1?10:56
soundraylampshade: you're so lucky... you should never have messed with it.10:56
nickrud!upgrade10:56
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.10:56
soundraylampshade: anyway, have you looked at the acpi stuff in /etc/default/ ?10:57
lampshadesoundray, you are telling me, I had second thoughts about doing it, but the battery life the forum post promised sounded really good so I just went with it and removed laptop-mode and installed laptop-mode-tools like the post said :-/10:57
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chuckypNope didn't like that too much10:57
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chuckypThe hibernation that is on my desktop; however, was asking.10:58
CountZare the nVidia problems I am having a dapper only issue? I mean, if I download the latest "stable" ubuntu, will my nVidia card work fine?10:58
soundraylampshade: I see, if that's what you did, you probably just have to edit /etc/default/acpi-support10:58
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athcsxHi all, I recently upgraded my entire system to dapper, however when I upgrade the kernel-image, when I reboot all I get is a busybox terminal. Any ideas?10:58
soundraylampshade, and /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf10:58
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CountZi'm talking about the binary vs. non-binary driver talks i'm seeing all over google/forums/wikis10:58
tristanmike!tell athcsx about dapper10:59
deejrossthis is the support channel is it not?10:59
chuckypathcsx, dapper discussion is #ubuntu+110:59
tristanmikeathcsx: see you're pm from ubotu for best support with dapper10:59
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mikelourencoi need help on running an .rpm program10:59
athcsxtristanmike: thanks10:59
mikelourencowhy wont it launch10:59
chuckyp!tell mikelourenco about alien10:59
CountZmikelourenco: use alien10:59
mikelourencothanks11:00
greenpenguin13my friend has a very odd error with his new ubuntu installation11:00
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chuckypmikelourenco, what app are you trying to install?11:00
tristanmikemikelourenco: what program ?11:00
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deejrossOMFG IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT CAN SPEAK TO ME11:00
mikelourencolime wire11:00
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lampshadesoundray, hmm  alright, at least that's something I can start toying with, I was running on nothing, lemme mess around with those and see what I can find out11:00
greenpenguin13apparently it tells him his xserver is not installed11:00
tristanmike!tell deejross about patience11:00
CountZdeejross: i'm sure we could all speak to you11:00
chuckypdeefzi, yes ask a question11:00
tristanmike!tell mikelourenco about limewire11:00
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greenpenguin13even though the .deb's are installed11:00
chuckypdeefzi, sry meant deejross11:00
gnomefreakdeejross: lose the caps and ask a question please11:00
deejrosswell, ive watched like 4 people come and go with questions and not one person has even responded to me11:00
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mikelourencocan i download alien from ubuntu?11:00
cello_raspyep11:00
dyrnedeejross: what was your question11:00
tristanmikemikelourenco: see you're pm for safer and easier instructions11:01
sfardeejross, yes this is the support channel11:01
greenpenguin13sudo apt-get install alien11:01
CountZdeejross: i must have showed up after your question was asked11:01
deejrossmy problem is that I can't get jabber server to work right11:01
lampshadedeejross, Jabber isn't really the rooms deal as much as it might be like a jabber channels deal I would imagine, but if it is an ubuntu question than yeah go for it11:01
soundraylampshade: for further related config files, look at the output of dpkg -L laptop-mode-tools | grep etc11:01
tristanmike!patience11:01
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.11:01
mikelourencothanks alot11:01
chuckypmikelourenco, isn't there a limewire/gnutella client in synaptic11:01
CountZdeejross: then you need to read the docs and try some more, i am successfuly running a jabber server and am using it right now11:01
deefzichuckyp, okay, i'll ask.11:01
deejrosswell, I went to the jabber channel, and they told me to ome here11:01
greenpenguin13gtk-gnutella11:01
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cello_raspi'm looking for a itunes replacement for breezy that -supports the shuffle- (my emphasis)11:01
deefzichuckyp, could jesus microware a burrito so hot, that he himself could not eat it?11:01
tristanmikepunt11:01
mikelourencowill look11:01
chuckypdeefzi, sure he could.11:01
deejrosswell, i can connect to it fine from the machine it's on, but not from other machines...the firewall is open and the other machines respond with stream errors11:02
Cyorxamphey doubletwist11:02
deefzichuckyp, okay. what about... could jesus beat dr. phil in melee combat?11:02
tristanmikechuckyp: he can get bleeding edge easy peasy11:02
greenpenguin13error about no xserver installed familiar to anyone?11:02
CyorxampI followed those instructions (obviously changing the rpm's to debs)11:02
chuckypdeefzi, dr. phil is pretty tuff.11:02
CyorxampCUPS looks set up properly with the driver and the usb location11:02
CountZdeefzi: a better question yet is: what would Roy Boytanno do?11:02
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abredeejross, is it listening on the right interface?11:02
CyorxampBut whenever gedit sends (or gthumb) a job... it times out :S11:02
deefzichuckyp, what are the odds?11:02
ifrANyone know of a way to record streaming video?11:02
Cyorxampthe CUPS web admin page can see it tho11:02
chuckypCountZ, bryan boytanno you mean?11:02
soundray!offtopic11:02
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!11:02
deejrosshow do i know if it or not...there was not an option...so I would assume it is...apache doesnt have a problem11:03
deefzichuckyp, either way, i'll put 50 on phil11:03
chuckypdeefzi, i'd give dr. phil 3 to 111:03
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ifrAnyone know of a way to record streaming video UNDER BREEZY??11:03
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CountZchuckyp: Ah yes, Bryan...!11:03
CyorxampLo ifr - shoutcast?11:03
ifrHey Cyorxamp, thanks!11:03
CyorxampNo its not a recommendation!11:03
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CyorxampJust asking if the video is being broadcasted using shoutcast11:04
deefzichuckyp, phil's gonna be so dead, if jesus is going to do one of his miracles again11:04
tristanmikeplease take all Dr. Phil discussion to offtopic11:04
elvynubuntu en es panol11:04
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Seveas!es11:04
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:04
Seveas^-- elvyn11:04
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elvynSeveas,  Gracias y me puedes ayudar con mi Wireless11:05
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lampshadesoundray, You wouldn't happen to know what controls the logout menu and such?  So that the options for hibernating and such are11:05
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Seveaselvyn, yo no hablo espanol, va en #ubuntu-es por favor11:06
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nismowell ive done all those steps11:06
nismowith java and blah blah blah11:06
nismostill no luck11:06
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chuckypSeveas, habla I believe would be more proper11:06
knanandPlease help me i have a major problem! I am not able to add any applications i can see the list > I select pacakges to install > It downloads all > Prepares to install > Then gives an error : Failed to apply all changes see terminal buffer to see what went wrong. I see all pacakges unpacked.. > I get another error window that reads like this " E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgcj6-common_4.0.1-4ubuntu9_all.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package11:06
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chuckypSeveas, something like no habla espanol, va en #ubuntu-es por favor11:07
tristanmikenismo: what are you running ? amd64 ? Dapper ?  Something isn't right11:07
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Josh43Can anyone tell me where to find the setting so that my files and folders are NOT sorted with caps first?11:07
Seveasknanand, try this after closing all package manager: sudo apt-get clean11:07
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Seveaschuckyp, as I said: I don't speak spanish ;)11:07
soundraylampshade: what I do know is that some of the options there call scripts in /etc/acpi11:07
chuckypSeveas, lol true11:07
talldavehello any one know if i can set mozilla plugins to use realplayer for audio and mplayer for video?11:08
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blacknightlo ompaul11:08
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ompaulevening bk11:09
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knanandThough I got that error i find they are installed is it OK??11:09
abretalldave, RestrictedFormats on the wiki11:09
lampshadesoundray, the other thing is that now when I try just the command "hibernate" on bash, it replies to me that my kernel does not have support for it?  Is hibernate the command that is used?  Or is that something different?11:09
tristanmiketalldave: you can try a firefox plugin called "mediaplayerconnectivity"11:10
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talldavetristanmike thanks i will try that11:10
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soundraylampshade: I think you can do something like 'echo sleep >/sys/power/state' on the command line, but I'm really not on home ground here.11:11
elvynhola quien me puede ayudar con mi Wireless orinoco, por que no tengo mucha ayuda en ubuntu-es11:11
blacknightelvyn, que le pasa?11:12
lampshadesoundray, fair enough, you are still more help then I've found on google and on the ubuntu forums11:12
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grogoreohi11:12
grogoreoI'm using an rsync commad to copy my music from an mp3 player to my computer and vise versa but it seems to only copy from PC to Player:   rsync -v -r --size-only ~/Documents/Multimedia/Music/ /media/IAUDIO/MUSIC     I'm putting this in a script; should I have another copy of this but switch the directories around?11:12
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soundraylampshade, generic advice: look in /usr/share/doc/packagename. Surprising amounts of info can be buried there :)11:13
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soundraylampshade: e.g. /usr/share/doc/laptop-mode-tools11:13
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_daniel_anyone knows if a package of helix-dbus-server exists and under what name ?11:14
theD3viLanyone have some wdm themes ?11:14
elvynblacknight, el led solo esta prendido11:14
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apollo2011hi everyone11:14
apollo2011I just tried upgrading one of my systems to dapper and I rebooted and X is messed up (no surprise)11:14
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elvynblacknight, no tengo conexion con mi Access Point11:14
apollo2011can someone help me fix it?11:14
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soundrayapollo2011: go to #ubuntu+1 for addvice about that. Be very precise when you describe the problem.11:15
ntollhi, how do I get beagle to work in Ubuntu. I have it installed, the beagled is running but when I type a search term it doesn't find anything (even though I'm searching for stuff I know is there). It kinda looks like it hasn't indexed my home dir... how do I get it to do this?11:15
apollo2011soundray, ok11:15
elvynCreo que es que ubuntu no tiene y/o no entiende11:15
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ntollFor example, I have an OOo file with the word Manifesto in the title. Searching for "Manifesto" should find it right?11:16
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arrickapollo2011, go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper support11:16
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soundrayntoll: if you're searching for filenames, you might as well use locate11:17
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tes1hello11:17
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tes1question: what firewall does Firestarter use? iptables? or is it like zonealarm?11:17
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ntollsoundray, its not the filename. The word "Manifesto" is the on the title page of the doc.11:18
knanandcan i use the data on NTFS partitions? how can i mount them..?11:18
tes1!ntfs11:18
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:18
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void^tes1: iptables11:18
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ntollknanand, mount -t ntfs /dev/???? /mnt/??? as read only11:18
lampshadeknanand, you can read them, but writing to them is not so greatly supported as it is mostly rev engineered as I understand it11:18
tes1@void^ thank you!11:18
arrickhow do I uninstall unwanted media players like xmms?11:18
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quellhorstwhat faxing service should i use?11:18
tes1sudo apt-get remove xmms11:19
arrickthanks11:19
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tes1or via synaptic11:19
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quellhorsti am looking for a free fax service that i can view in linux11:19
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soundrayntoll: apt-cache show beagle doesn't mention OOo support...11:19
alexis_bonjour, je viens d'arriver sous linux11:19
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alexis_et je souhaiterai connatre un antivirus et un firewall  installer11:19
tristanmike!fr11:20
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:20
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knanandwriting to NTFS is not so greatly supported means it is not reliable or it is not at all possible...11:20
ntollhmmm... but it does support pdf reading too via poppler right?11:20
tristanmikesil vous plait11:20
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gloria#easyubuntu11:20
ntollnot finding stuff from pdf's either11:20
chuckypquellhorst, did you try searching  synaptic I see a few possibles efax maybe?11:20
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LinuxJonesquellhorst: >> http://www.gnomefiles.org/shots/efax.png11:21
bobulatorhey, if im backing up all the user files to do a system reinstall, is there any other files i need to backup to save the users database?11:21
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quellhorstLinuxJones, chuckyp thanks11:21
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bobulatoras in, is there anything not stored in the home directory i need to keep?11:21
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gnomefreakknanand: its not safe to write to ntfs but im sure if you dont mind losing everything you can do it. (i wouldnt nor would i ever recommend it)11:21
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MisterNn811:21
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tes1@bobulator: every data you saved somewhere else and want to keep!11:22
nismoeeep, firefox keeps shutting down for no apparent reason11:22
bobulatorbut i mean, i want to keep the same users and passwords data... are there any other files i need to hang on to?11:22
tu-emif anyone knows... plz respond : having ubuntu distro (running apache2 & ssh) in a network behind NAT,, on the router apache2 & ssh ports are forwarded to the ubuntu box,, when connected from inet it works sometime, and then just hangs... and not accesible till box restart (physicaly going there),, thought it was the router (levelOne) whole the time.. but it seems not... :\11:22
ic56Josh43: re: case-insensitive filename sorting.  You have 2 options: (1) write yourself a one-line script like so: ls "0" |sort .  (2) set the internationalization environment variables.  I forget the name of the variable now but it will cause all of unix to obey human-language rules for sorting.11:22
knanandok i get you... thanx11:22
arrickgnomefreak, why isnt it safe to write to NTFS? I do it all the time and the banks partitions are all NTFS, and they run a linux package for their systems11:22
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soundrayntoll: have you seen http://beaglewiki.org/Ubuntu_Installation ?11:23
ic56Josh43: s/"0"/"$@"/11:23
niomihello all, thanks for your time -- i changed every instance to 'breezy' to 'dapper' in sources.lst, and did the apt-get dist upgrade. then i rebooted. it's going into a grub CLI, what do i do now?11:23
arrickgnomefreak, just wondering11:23
chuckyptu-em, which distro are you running ?11:23
ntollsoundray, nope... looking now... thx11:23
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tes1question: how can i rename my eth0 to eth1 and vice versa?11:23
chuckyptu-em, i.e. hoary, breezy, or dapper?11:23
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soundrayntoll: ty for reminding me of beagle - I've been meaning to try it out :)11:24
tu-emdl-ed it about 2 weeks ago (it was the latest), 5.x11:24
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tu-emcant remember exact11:24
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Josh43ic56; Wow, that's intense for a small change like that.. I will probly change it in internationalization, but where would I put that script if I wanted nautilus and every open file dialog to respect it?11:24
ThomSjoin #ubuntu=dev11:24
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ntollsoundray, well I hope it works for you!11:24
tu-emchuckyp : :S,, sorry, dont know between those 311:24
nismoim trying to reinstall firefox, but every time i go to synaptic or the terminal it tells me that i need the cd, I think the problem i have with firefox is that the version from the cd doesnt seem to be working properly11:24
chuckyptu-em, hrm... maybe hunt arround int he logs and see whats going on in /var/log  when it start denying network connections thats wierd.  Is the box physically locked when you go to locally restart it?11:24
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nismois there a way were i can completly remve any trace of firefox11:24
krietorhi guys11:24
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gnomefreakiirc arrick its a microsoft securtiy concern for ntfs writing11:25
nismoand that reinstall it using terminal or synaptic (without it asking me for a cd)11:25
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arrickok11:25
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monteiro_where can i change the refresh of my monitor , it's 60hertz and i wanted to make it 70, anyone knows ?11:25
tu-emchuckyp : no, thats antoher thing i forgot, all works & apache and ssh are available within the network11:25
chuckypnismo, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines that are referencing the cd.11:25
soundrayntoll: oh, you need extended attributes support. See /usr/share/doc/beagle/README.debian11:25
chuckypnismo, then sudo apt-get update11:25
nismo...11:25
Jhairnismo: sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox11:25
arrickHow do I play .wma on Amorak?11:25
dyrnenismo: comment out cd entery at top of /etc/apt/sources.list. as for firefox see wiki.ubuntu.com11:25
chuckyptu-em, that has to be router based then.  Thats just goofy.11:25
ntollsoundray, just found that too11:25
krietorhey guys i got a question11:26
redguykrietor: shoot11:26
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chuckyp!tell arrick about restricted11:26
gnomefreak!wma11:26
uboturumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats11:26
krietorive downloaded MPlayer-1.0pre7try2, and i wanted to install that11:26
krietorhow do it do it11:26
krietoromg im  such a n00b11:26
gnomefreakubotu tell krietor about mplayer11:26
ic56Josh43: assuming nautilus and others are using ls rather than calling libc directly (not likely, but it's worth a shot), try this: mv /bin/ls /bin/ls.bin; echo /bin/ls.bin \"\$@\" |sort -i > /bin/ls11:26
tu-emchuckyp : one interesting thing,, when i leave the ubuntu on the login screen, then its the highest probability that it wont work, but when i log in, and lock the keyboard, then it works (for sometime)11:27
gnomefreakkrietor: the easy way is in your pm11:27
juanmaalguien espaol?11:27
redguy!es11:27
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:27
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krietorthat has DIVx support also?11:27
tu-emchuckyp : i'll check the logs, thnx for the hint11:27
monteiro_krietor : activate multiverse repositories and sudo apt-get install mplayer-xxx the xxx are 386, 586...11:27
krietorthat mplayer?11:27
chuckyptu-em, I wouldn't even know where to begin It definately seems like the router is hiccuping or your internal address is changing somehow then the port forwards are getting messed up.11:28
krietorok thx11:28
arrickok, restricted got me the w32 codec, but I cant get them to load on amarok11:28
rkalsi_VSHello, anybody willing to help a newbie install ubuntu ?11:28
ic56Josh43: found it!  You want to modify LC_COLLATE.11:28
tes1!wine11:28
nismoya im like a noob11:28
nismoso...11:28
gnomefreakubotu tell krietor about divx11:28
nismowhen it coems to editing the sources.list11:28
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nismowhat do i use11:28
arrickrkalsi_VS, put the disk in the drive and go11:28
chuckyprkalsi_VS, download the cd and install  I would read the wiki11:28
tu-emanyone tryed XGL on ubuntu ?11:28
arrickit will pretty much do all the work itself11:28
tristanmikenismo: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"11:28
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redguy!tell tu-em about xgl11:28
dyrnenismo: or sudo gedit11:29
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ifrtu-em #ubuntu-xgl11:29
delphiuktristanmike: can't it be done via synaptic as well?11:29
tristanmikenismo: put a # in front of the cd line, then hit ctrl+x to save and enter to exit11:29
chuckyprkalsi_VS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation11:29
tu-emah, theres a spec. channel :)11:29
tu-emsry11:29
arrick!freeformats11:29
ubotuThere are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats11:29
tristanmikedelphiuk: yeah, absolutely11:29
tes1what name is 5.10? brreeeezey?11:29
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delphiuktes1: yes11:29
_harmsudo gedit /etc/fstab11:29
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nismowell there doesnt seem to be anything referring to the cd11:29
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chuckyptes1, yes breezy11:29
_harmhow would i mount:11:29
gnomefreaktes1: breezy badger11:29
redguytes1: no, breezy badger is the name11:29
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_harmhow do i mount11:30
_harmsudo gedit /etc/fstab11:30
_harmsudo gedit /etc/fstab11:30
tristanmikedelphiuk: if you've got the option to disable/enable software sources enabled11:30
rkalsi_VShaving some pblm at Install the base package section11:30
_harmO.o11:30
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chuckyp_harm, what are you trying to mount?11:30
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dyrnenismo: on a default install the very top line should always be for the cd i would think11:30
tes1thx11:30
_harm<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">11:30
_harm<body>sudo gedit /etc/fstab11:30
_harm</body>11:30
rkalsi_VSIt says, cant download bal bka,...11:30
_harmWhat the hell11:30
delphiuktristanmike: right, what's the default then?11:30
chuckyp!tell _harm about pastebin11:30
nismodeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted11:30
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redguy_harm: ??11:30
rkalsi_VSanybudy ?11:30
_harm i want to mount this /dev/hdb1               1        9964    80035798+  42  SFS11:30
nismowell its already uncommented11:30
tristanmikedelphiuk: that option is not default, and neither is show disabled software sources11:30
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_harmbut its SFS.. so what the heck is tha NTFS?11:30
tes1how can i add something to "autostart"11:30
tes1with sudo11:31
nismohmmmmm11:31
dyrnenismo: comment it out and then save changes then type sudo apt-get update11:31
tristanmikedelphiuk: as well universe and mulitverse are not accessable by default11:31
nismoso wait, u want me to put in comments ?11:31
delphiuktristanmike: sure11:31
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chuckyp_harm, did you follow the mounting guide?11:31
dyrnenismo: #deb etc yes11:31
chuckyp!tell _harm about ntfs11:31
nismook11:31
chuckyp_harm, on that page is directions for different file systems also11:31
_harmi tried but the script didnt get it and fstab didnt do it11:32
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rkalsi_VSGuys, a newbie trying to install ubuntu. Stuck at install the base system...After partitioning, it tried to install but got stuck & errors were like: could not download....11:32
rkalsi_VSI would have thot that everything is on CD ??11:32
delphiukrkalsi_VS: have you checked your cd?11:32
nismook11:32
nismodid that11:32
nismowhats nxt11:32
knanandgnomefreak, now that i have mounted will i have difficulties in reading encrypted files on NTFS media?11:32
rkalsi_VSdid an integrity heck11:32
chuckyp_harm, if you do a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb  what tyep of partition is it?11:32
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rkalsi_VSit was fine.11:32
poningru_rkalsi_VS, it is what cd did you download?11:32
dyrnenismo: then sudo apt-get update and it should work11:32
rkalsi_VSi did not download..got it via post11:32
poningru_oh wow11:32
tristanmikerkalsi_VS: did you verify the md5sum of the downloaded file you burnt ?11:32
rkalsi_VSthe one which says - Install C11:33
_harmchuckyp system SFS11:33
tristanmikerkalsi_VS: never mind then :P11:33
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dyrnenismo: while youre messing with sources.list might as well uncomment all the urls at the bottom11:33
rkalsi_VStrista* I got it via post..11:33
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tristanmikerkalsi_VS: yea I saw that a split second after I hit enter, srry11:33
nismothey r all uncommented11:33
dyrnenismo: ok11:33
rkalsi_VSaby other ideas >11:33
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rkalsi_VSany*11:33
tristanmikerkalsi_VS: try another cd, I assume you didn't get just one11:34
delphiukrkalsi_VS: do you have the option of retry?11:34
poningru_rkalsi_VS, you should be good to go it just ignore the error11:34
rkalsi_VSI got 2 - the other was Live  one ..11:34
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rkalsi_VSNah..it wont go11:34
poningru_hmm11:34
rkalsi_VSIts not progressing furthur11:34
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tristanmikerkalsi_VS: no, I mean, you only recieved one set of cd's ?11:34
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chuckyprkalsi_VS, I would download the cd from the link I sent you.11:34
rkalsi_VSYeah ?11:34
nismo...11:34
delphiukrkalsi_VS: tried ejecting the cd, and then re-inserting before the retry?11:34
_harmAh i got it to work :P11:34
nismoloading firefox11:34
rkalsi_VSIs there more ?11:34
knanandwill i have difficulties in reading encrypted files on NTFS media?11:34
_harmmount point was messed up11:34
rkalsi_VSLet me check, what u syggested delphiuk..11:35
ThomSIs there any way of reinstalling ubuntu without losing my files/data?11:35
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gnomefreakknanand: dont know i dont use windows and the others in house dont use linux ;)11:36
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rkalsi_VSbizarre, CD wont eject ???11:36
_harmiam going to reboot.. brb11:36
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nismook11:36
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chuckyprkalsi_VS, because its mounted you would have to umount it to eject it.11:37
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nismoCRAP11:37
nismofirefox keeps shutting down11:37
nismowhat garbage11:38
rkalsi_VSoh, ok, one sec...11:38
dyrnenismo: breezy or dapper11:38
chuckypnismo, what did you do now?  remove firefox?  then how did you install it?11:38
dyrne?11:38
rkalsi_VSchucky, i wud have to abort the installation then, isnt it ?11:38
tristanmikedyrne: I have yet to peel that answer out11:38
nismoi just installed it using apt-get install11:38
nikican someone recommend an audio player that's got a media library (like amarok), but is not as resource hungry as amarok?11:38
nismoafter the update11:38
NickGarvey.11:38
nismobreezy11:38
chuckypniki, rythmbox11:39
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rkalsi_VSchucky, i wud have to abort the installation then, isnt it ??11:39
delphiuknismo: how did you remove firefox before?11:39
nismosudo apt-get remove firefox11:39
nikithanky you chuckyp11:39
chuckyprkalsi_VS, yes you would have to abort the installation I'm not sure what you are trying to do I'm sorry for interjeting in the middle I haven't been following completely.11:39
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rkalsi_VSI am tryng to install ubuntu, chuckyp11:39
rkalsi_VSfirst timer11:39
CyorxampIs there an IRC channel for opensource.org?  I am trying to decide on a license to use and I could use a hand11:40
rkalsi_VSIn the install the base system section,, i got stuck,,,11:40
nismoany ideas11:40
rkalsi_VSApparantly, its trying to download sthing11:40
rkalsi_VSany idea ?11:40
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nismoit only shutsdown on specific sites though11:40
NickGarveynismo: such as?11:40
chuckyprkalsi_VS, alright where did you get the cds again?11:40
delphiuknismo: an example of a site?11:40
rkalsi_VSfrom ubuntu via post11:40
nismolike if im on a site, and i click on a link it will shutdown,... after it shutsdown andi try to return to the link it will again shutdown11:40
delphiukrkalsi_VS: do you have the ability to download a cd from the web?11:41
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rkalsi_VSdelph, I am doing it now11:41
dyrnenismo: maybe view this as an opportunity.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:41
rkalsi_VSBut, there seems to nothing wrong with that CD...11:41
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nismok11:41
tristanmikenismo: got a link ?11:41
rkalsi_VSdelph, Why wud it try to download sthing ??11:41
chuckyprkalsi_VS, what type of hardware are you installing on?11:41
nismoer lol11:41
tristanmikenismo: maybe these sites aren't firefox friendly11:41
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rkalsi_VSchuckyp, its an AMP processor..11:42
rkalsi_VSAMD*11:42
rkalsi_VSx8611:42
nismowait11:42
nismoim gettin errors11:42
delphiukrkalsi_VS: it might say downloading, even though it is downloadiing from the cd11:42
nismoafter i did sudo apt-get update11:42
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rkalsi_VSoh ok..makes sense..11:42
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gridblockhey11:42
nismodeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted11:42
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chuckyprkalsi_VS, here if you want to see if its trying to download anything just unplug the pc from the net.  Then try you're install that way you definately know its not downloading any packages.11:42
nismowait thats not it11:42
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chuckyprkalsi_VS, you could always update later.11:42
nismoW: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)11:42
NickGarvey!repos11:43
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:43
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rkalsi_VSchuckyp, how can It be connected to net, i am installing ubuntu on it..11:43
nismo Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)11:43
lakaianyone havin firewire wokrin in dapper?11:43
rkalsi_VS& IT11:43
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lakaiwokrin sorry11:43
rkalsi_VSit isnt configured yet..?11:43
lakaiwtf11:43
nismo^^^^ thats what i get after sudo apt-get update11:43
lakaiworking11:43
chuckyprkalsi_VS, because I can do a netinstall froma cd but I don't believe ubuntu does this.11:43
_jasonnismo: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please11:43
tristanmikenismo: do this: "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and paste the result on pastebin11:44
tristanmike!patebin11:44
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tristanmike11:44
tristanmike!pastebin11:44
nismok11:44
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,11:44
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nismoi dont wanna flood11:44
nismohow do u pastebin11:45
_jasonnismo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:45
ic56!pastebin11:45
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,11:45
nismo............11:45
lakaiNONE using firewire currently? :-O11:45
nismok11:45
chuckyprkalsi_VS, well take for instance if you had a router that dhcp'd your network to share the internet connection it would connect after configureing the network.11:45
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Seveas!pastebin =~ s/,//11:45
ubotuOK, Seveas11:45
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Seveas!pastebin =~ s/Install/You can install/11:46
ubotuSeveas: OK11:46
rkalsi_VSchuchyp, yeahm understand, but I am using a wireless conn, & i dont think its connected to that network yet..11:46
Josh43What charcter is that??  ""11:46
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frank23lakai: ask a more precise question. what firewire device are you trying to use and what is the problem11:46
delphiukrkalsi_VS: do you have encription on the wireless connection?11:46
chuckyprkalsi_VS, K11:46
nismook11:46
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nismoafter i go to that link i get the stuff, but there are #'s nxt to it11:46
rkalsi_VSdelph, not at the moment..11:46
nismodo i paste what i get there?11:46
tristanmikenismo: now paste the link11:46
nismook11:47
nismohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1100511:47
delphiukrkalsi_VS: then, it may well be connected11:47
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nismobrb11:47
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nismooh wait11:47
_jasonnismo: ready?11:47
nismono im not leaving :P11:47
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lakaifrank23: i have an ipod and another external firewire disk, none works11:47
rkalsi_VSdelph, ok, let me discnnect it then...11:47
lakai(anymore)11:47
nismoready?11:47
nismofor que11:47
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nismowhats up11:47
root_Can anyone help me set up the Nvidia drivers11:47
lakaii just plug it in and get no response from anything..11:47
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_jasonnismo: for the answer, 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and delete the last two nonempty lines then run apt-get update again11:48
nismook11:48
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rkalsi_VSdelph, i have reconfigured network & supplied a wrong gateway,11:48
chuckyprkalsi_VS, yeah it may be connecting11:48
rkalsi_VSdelph, that shud take care of it, isnt it ??11:48
_jasonnismo: delete lines 4 and 5 too11:49
nismook11:49
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nismook11:50
nismono more errors11:50
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nismoso should i reinstall firefox?11:50
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KasukoAnyone?11:50
mirakthere is a problem with dapper and gdm11:51
mirakand login11:51
dyrnenismo: it might be taking a chance but dapper is so close to release might consider just dist-upgrading11:51
Stormx2Oh wow the dependancies on the Skype deb have been fixed... at last!11:51
_jasonnismo: sure11:51
mirakI switched session and there was the login prompt, but the taskbar where totally accessible11:51
SeveasStormx2, ah cool, one more package I can remove from my repo11:51
nismowell11:52
tristanmikemirak: visit #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion11:52
nismofirefox STILL shutsdown11:52
nismooh well11:52
Stormx2Seveas: I havn't tested it out yet mind. They got a new PM of the linux sector of skype and I think its going places at last 11:52
tristanmikenismo: can I please have the link11:52
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miraktristanmike: merci beaucoup much very11:52
nismoto the site?11:52
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rkalsi_VSChuckyp, starting from scratch :(11:52
nismoer it was like multiple sites11:52
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nismodigg.com for example11:52
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nismosigh11:54
nismoi really dont wanna keep hassaling with this11:54
nismoim gonna go take a break11:54
nismothanks for the help11:54
tristanmikemirak: du rein11:54
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KasukoCan someone help me get my precompiled headers from terminal11:55
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Red-Sox|HL1hi11:55
zebarbuhi, I've a question about bash init scripts.11:55
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OhmHey guys someone know a client MSN that have a invisible aparency?11:56
NickGarvey!bash11:56
ubotuFor a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands11:56
NickGarveymm11:56
rybuntui have a creative zen pmc.. ive been trying to mount it in vmware.. but i need the blockstatus of it etc... /dec/whatever there doesnt seem to be one though is this possible?11:56
NickGarveynot what I was hoping11:56
zebarbuin /etc/profile, we do nothing if it is NOT an interractive mode (PS1 empty)11:56
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arrickhow do I change the default download location?11:56
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zebarbuwhat bash script is loaded in non-interractive mode?11:56
soundrayNickGarvey: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ any better?11:56
tristanmikearrick: in what, firefox?11:57
rybuntuwhat do you guys recommend using breezy or dapper?11:57
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ic56twn zebarbu11:57
arrickin terminal11:57
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tristanmikearrick: you mean for wget ?11:57
soundrayrybuntu: breezy if you want to work. Dapper if you want to troubleshoot :)11:57
ic56zebarbu: there is no special script for non-interactive mode.11:57
arrickeverything goes on the desktop11:57
arrickyeah11:57
rybuntuahum11:57
soundrayrybuntu: seriously, dapper is reasonably stable now.11:57
KasukoCan anyone help me get my precompiled headers to install Nvidia drivers or atleast reset them to my old one11:57
tristanmikearrick: I always thought it was current directory11:58
soundrayrybuntu: but not considered production quality.11:58
rybuntusoundray: im using dapper.. but just until recently11:58
Keleksi25.4. is day of the dapper's release? :P11:58
OhmHey,  someone knows a client MSN who has control of visibility? ????11:58
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tristanmikearrick: are you in the Desktop directory each time you wget ?11:58
ic56zebarbu: just branch-out from /etc/profile depending on the mode.11:58
NickGarveyOhm: what do you mean visibility?11:58
arricknope, home diretory11:58
rybuntusoundray: when is it a good time to start using the unstable11:58
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Ohmlet me see11:58
rybuntusoundray: around flight 3?11:58
zebarbuic56: so, i'm supposed to modify file in /etc ?!?11:58
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zebarbuic56: there is no script in 'user space' in non-interractive?!?11:59
Ohma program that when is maximized you can see the desktop for example11:59
tombshi all11:59
soundrayrybuntu: that's impossible to answer. It's a matter of taste, and it depends on how good you are at troubleshooting.11:59
McJerrywhat is the command to grep a files contents and output in terminal11:59
OhmNickGarvey, do you understand?11:59
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rybuntusoundray: breezy has a lot of old versions in its repos i like dappers better11:59
_jasonMcJerry: grep?11:59
NickGarveyOhm: ah you want transparency!11:59
ic56zebarbu: note, however, that /etc/profile is only read *once* -- when you login.  /etc/bash.bashrc gets read by all shells, whether login or not.11:59
NickGarveyriht?11:59
NickGarveyright*11:59

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