[12:00] <tristanmike> patrick52222: gnome-look.org
[12:00] <TeMagic> hi there!
[12:00] <ernz> gnome-look.org Patrick52222
[12:00] <rem> FYI: http://www.thawte.com/
[12:00] <redguy> sfar-ubu: try running file the_file.tar.bz2
[12:00] <TeMagic> I have an issue, that I need help with
[12:00] <rhythminmind> anyone get smb to work in nautilus in dapper?
[12:00] <ernz> Thanks for your help all.
[12:00] <ernz> Im to bed
[12:00] <mwe> rhythminmind: yeah
[12:00] <kRaKoN> !tell kRaKoN about universe
[12:00] <ernz> Good night
[12:00] <rhythminmind> in broken in all my updated systems
[12:00] <rhythminmind> it's
[12:00] <rebelguys6> ask away TeMagic
[12:00] <Belgain> hi there; quick question - i've got a remote control properly working under breezy, how can i get a certain program to launch on a certain keypress?
[12:01] <TeMagic> how do I run only terminal in ubuntu. I mean how do I close down X, in order to upgrade my display drivers?
[12:01] <rhythminmind> did you have to change anything?
[12:01] <rem> http://www.thawte.com/secure-email/personal-email-certificates/index.html
[12:01] <c0llin> can someone help me with compiling wine(amd64)??
[12:01] <mwe> rhythminmind: I just typed smb:/
[12:01] <Belgain> i'm using the remote in mythtv, but would like to be able to actually use it to launch mythtv as well....
[12:01] <rhythminmind> no go for me.. allot of people are having the same issue as i
[12:01] <mwe> rhythminmind: it's been a while though. might have broken since, I haven't checked lately
[12:01] <redguy> c0llin: wine is not for amd64
[12:02] <mwe> rhythminmind: does it work from CLI or konqueror or something?
[12:02] <TeMagic> anybody know?
[12:02] <c0llin> redguy: is there a way i can use it?
[12:02] <BlueHeron> c0llin, i think you can setup a 32bit chroot
[12:02] <NickGarvey> TeMagic: hold ctrl alt backspace
[12:02] <NickGarvey> that sholud kill x
[12:02] <rhythminmind> mwe - yeah it works with others
[12:02] <BlueHeron> restart X
[12:02] <BlueHeron> :-p
[12:02] <TeMagic> doesn't that just restart X?
[12:02] <BlueHeron> yea
[12:02] <BlueHeron> it restarts it
[12:02] <rhythminmind> i've heard it's a gnome config
[12:03] <mwe> rhythminmind: hmm. sounds like nautilus is broken then :|
[12:03] <TeMagic> I need to shut it down, because I can't upgrade drivers while X is running
[12:03] <NickGarvey> someone told me holding it restarted
[12:03] <rhythminmind> gnome-vfs or something
[12:03] <NickGarvey> killed*
[12:03] <BlueHeron> NickGarvey^ they lied to you :-P
[12:03] <rebelguys6> er no, it kill s
[12:03] <rebelguys6> it kills it,
[12:03] <Belgain> no idea on how to bind IR input events to program launching then...?
[12:03] <rhythminmind> well you fix one thing break anouther
[12:03] <rebelguys6> gdm/kdm restarts it
[12:03] <BlueHeron> no it does not lol, it restarts it :-p
[12:04] <rem> this is what i get when i try to send a signed mail: Enter the password for `NSS User Private Key and Certificate Services'
[12:04] <rambo3> was used to ctrl alt f1
[12:04] <NickGarvey> eh alright, I don't use a gui most of the time
[12:04] <TeMagic> ctrl alt f1?
[12:04] <stegallo> hello
[12:04] <TeMagic> I'll try... thanks!
[12:04] <rem> I searched Everywhere for that @"* NSS user ... :(
[12:04] <mwe> TeMagic: remember alt-f7 brings you back to X
[12:05] <rem> and No One seems to know what it is ... :(
[12:06] <steve_> unable to find printer driver for hp office jet pro k550...not available from hp. ideas?
[12:06] <BlueHeron> steve_^ you tried setting it up in cups ?
[12:06] <mwe> steve_: best bet is to search linuxprinting.org
[12:07] <steve_> tried new printer under administration
[12:07] <BlueHeron> steve_: or set it up in system>administration>printing
[12:07] <BlueHeron> didn't work?
[12:07] <mwe> steve_: that will tell you if any driver works for other people and if so what driver
[12:07] <steve_> nope
[12:07] <rhythminmind> mwe - what smb client would you use
[12:07] <mwe> steve_: go to linuxprinting.org and search the database
[12:07] <BlueHeron> hmm the refresh rate is set to 61hz that's weird
[12:07] <mwe> rhythminmind: smbmount
[12:07] <steve_> linuxprinting.org, here i come!!! thanks!
[12:08] <rhythminmind> ahh yes
[12:08] <flint> Seveas, what up dog?
[12:08] <Seveas> flint, ?
[12:08] <mwe> rhythminmind: smbmount  //HOST/SharedDocs /mnt/share -o password=<secret>
[12:09] <rhythminmind> thanks
[12:09] <flint> Seveas, just passing thru thought I would say hi...
[12:09] <Seveas> hi 
[12:09] <Joetheodd> hi seveas!
[12:10] <flint> Seveas, you are on CET eh?  you should get some sleep...
[12:10] <Rayman> Hey, I'm looking for a cheap 54mb wlan card that'll easily work with linux.
[12:10] <Seveas> flint, true, true - I have 3690 bugmails to go though
[12:10] <matute> Hi!..I'm from argentina and I'm newbe in ubuntu...
[12:11] <Matthewv> hi matute
[12:11] <tristanmike> welcome
[12:11] <matute> Hi all just to say that and read something of your help...
[12:11] <flint> Rayman, i like Belkin cards they are very cheap...
[12:11] <L0ch> Hi everyone. I would like to use both Windows 2000 and Ubuntu on my computer. I was able, years ago, to install five different OS on a harddrive, but I can't remember how I did that (probably a multiboot software). Is there a safe and easy way to do this with Ubuntu? If so, where could I find info on this? Any help welcome!
[12:11] <mwe> Rayman: I hear prism2 based cards should work well
[12:11] <matute> thanks for welcome me...I just open the Xchat IRC window and found all you talking...
[12:11] <rem> found this: That's what I thought. Ok, from what I know (and I'm going to keep poking around to find out more) Evolution 2.0.2 has a bug that's preventing you from importing that certificate
[12:11] <rem> ??
[12:12] <Seveas> L0ch, the ubuntu installer woll do that for you automatically if you install windows before linux
[12:12] <matute> It's like another world behind the window...jeje
[12:12] <dj-fu> L0ch, make seperate partitions.. Install windows on one (it must be a Primary partition), install linux after you install windows
[12:12] <Kovecses> L0ch: just make sure you have the partitions set up and you will be fine
[12:12] <flint> Seveas, you ever heard of a network but in breezy that effects the nic on sony viaos?  I just told someone to just invoke networking again... and that seemed to do it.
[12:12] <dj-fu> grub will auto-detect it, and add it to your boot loader
[12:12] <flint> Seveas, speaking of bugs that is...
[12:12] <rambo3> LOch there is a even video on googlevideo for installing ubuntu and windows
[12:12] <matute> well guys...i'll join another day, thanks for be there. chears! --matute
[12:12] <Seveas> flint, too vague - could you be more sepcific?
[12:12] <flint> :^)
[12:13] <natalie> hello all.  I was wondering if anyone had anysuggestions that might be able to help me.  I have tried different installations of 5.10 and none of them seem to work properly.  They all freeze when it gets to the login screen.  I have tried fixing the video driver, but that doesn't work either.  I could really use any help, thank you.
[12:13] <flint> Seveas, na, I am a smart guy who can spell malone as well as you can... thanks anyway for rattling your brain on it anyway.
[12:13] <rambo3> L0ch, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu
[12:13] <Kovecses> natalie: have any other versions worked?
[12:13] <L0ch> Seveas, Kovecses and rambo3: Thanks a lot for the info :) Windows 2000 is already installed, so I guess I'll try right away, but I'll have a look at the googlevideo before. Thanks again! (Thanks Rambo3)
[12:13] <Rdde> found out what syntax i want to use for the cron but I dont know where the cron conf file is? =)
[12:14] <natalie> Kovecses: I have gotten 4.10 to work fine.
[12:14] <mwe> Rdde: crontab -e for the user crontab
[12:14] <flint> natalie, try typing server at the boot prompt.  That will install a command line only version of the product.  If that works then you may get some insight...
[12:15] <Rdde> mwe, thanks
[12:15] <natalie> flint: Are you reffering to the instalation?
[12:15] <flint> natalie, indeed at the boot: prompt type server...
[12:16] <Rayman> mwe: how could I tell what chip it's using?
[12:17] <mwe> Rayman: a card you don't have?
[12:17] <mwe> Rayman: vendors web page I guess
[12:17] <XVampireX> I can't install Ubuntu (I'm on live cd) I've tried everything, it seems as if my CDrom isn't thinking or perhaps it shouldn't at the time... Is there any step by step guide to installing ubuntu?
[12:17] <natalie> flint:  just to make sure before i do this, you want me to type server when I am attempting to do an install, correct.  Sorry, just want to make sure before I do this
[12:17] <BlueHeron> natalie: type serve for server install :_P
[12:17] <BlueHeron> server*
[12:17] <XVampireX> Anyone knows?
[12:18] <Rayman> mwe: I'd guess too. But at least belkin doesn't mention it. Oh well, googling around. ty.
[12:18] <rebelguys6> XVampireX, shouldn't you use the install cd
[12:18] <rebelguys6> ?
[12:18] <flint> natalie, put the cd in power up the computer watch the initial boot up.  The word boot: will appear in the bottom left hand corner.  type the word "server"
[12:18] <Sergi0> XVampireX, install doesnt work with livecd, download the install cd
[12:18] <XVampireX> Yes, I can't install it
[12:18] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: do you get an error?
[12:18] <natalie> flint, thanks, that should help.
[12:18] <XVampireX> I get an error, yeah
[12:18] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: what error
[12:18] <XVampireX> I didn't write it down so I don't really remember what it was
[12:18] <flint> natalie, no problem...
[12:18] <mwe> XVampireX: you can't install ubuntu from the live cd. you need the install cd
[12:18] <flint> sksk
[12:18] <XVampireX> I know it happens right when I have to install the kernel
[12:19] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: well if you tell us the error we can help better
[12:19] <XVampireX> mwe: I am on live cd BECAUSE I can't install it from the install cd
[12:19] <rem> followd this, but doesnt work: http://www.novell.com/documentation/evolution24/index.html?page=/documentation/evolution24/evolution24/data/encryption.html
[12:19] <rem> :(
[12:19] <mwe> XVampireX: I SEE
[12:19] <green_earz>  /join #loosechange
[12:19] <XVampireX> I can't really tell you the error but it doesn't let me install the kernel
[12:20] <XVampireX> And for some reason I can't eject the CD, because it might be because my cdrom drive is messed up
[12:20] <fiendskull9> !bot
[12:20] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:21] <XVampireX> Can't anyone help me? :'(
[12:21] <Sergi0> XvampireX where did the installer fail?
[12:21] <XVampireX> I already said....
[12:21] <XVampireX> Right when I have to install the kernel
[12:21] <XVampireX> I try to select some kernel and it won't let me
[12:22] <Sergi0> hmm could the cd be corrupt
[12:22] <XVampireX> Nope
[12:22] <XVampireX> Most likely the cdrom drive, because I just got the ubuntu cds in mail today
[12:22] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, you dont have to select kenrel in ubuntu install.
[12:22] <Sergi0> oh, ur using the 5.10 version
[12:22] <XVampireX> yes
[12:23] <Sergi0> but there is no kernel choice in the installer?
[12:23] <XVampireX> there is
[12:23] <Sergi0> hmm
[12:23] <rem> it asks Enter the password for `NSS User Private Key and Certificate Services' when trying to import the certificates in Evolution ..
[12:23] <Sergi0> how did u get there?
[12:23] <XVampireX> When it is supposed to install the base files
[12:23] <Matthewv> XVampireX, you cannot eject a cd when running in live cd mode... and 5.10 has a bug that means that the eject key on a cdrom drive mostoften will not work in ubuntu
[12:23] <XVampireX> after the partitioning
[12:23] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, there is no choice of kernel when installing, ubuntu uses one kernel.
[12:23] <tristanmike> XVampireX: yeah, if it's asking you to choose a kernel, there is something wrong...what type of computer do you have ?
[12:23] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, this isnt slackware :P
[12:23] <Sergi0> :)
[12:23] <tristanmike> ;)
[12:24] <XVampireX> Uhm
[12:24] <artur> do you know some channel with gawk gurus ?
[12:24] <rambo3> debian has that too
[12:24] <XVampireX> 1.5ghz p4
[12:24] <fiendskull9> Sergi0, thats the one thing i hate about installing slack, im always afraid im gonna mess up on the choosing of the kernel
[12:24] <redguy> artur: #awk?
[12:24] <BlueHeron> wget is sexy :-P
[12:24] <fiendskull9> !gawk
[12:24] <ubotu> fiendskull9: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:24] <XVampireX> Perhaps I messed up in the earlier stages, specifically in the partitioning...
[12:24] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, hes talking in general, the cpu wont matter uin this case.
[12:24] <BlueHeron> hm
[12:26] <XVampireX> Well, what am I supposed to say then? 256mbram memory, 128 video mbram geforce 5200, etc...
[12:26] <tristanmike> XVampireX: yeah, just wanted to make sure we weren't dealing with some obscure system
[12:26] <fiendskull9> tristanmike, like a p1 with 40 mb of ram :D
[12:26] <XVampireX> Isn't there some kind of installation guide?
[12:26] <tristanmike> fiendskull9: lol, 386 :P
[12:26] <Sergi0> there is ...
[12:27] <XVampireX> Where?
[12:27] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, its pretty basic, just select partition, and baddabing.
[12:27] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: did you make a swap partition ?
[12:27] <mwe> tristanmike: that's fancy. I stick with a modded commodore 64
[12:27] <XVampireX> Well a friend of mine told me to use 3 partitions
[12:27] <XVampireX> Yes I did
[12:27] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: with 128 ram your going to need a swap of like 768MB or more
[12:27] <XVampireX> I got 256 ram
[12:27] <BlueHeron> okay then 512
[12:28] <mwe> 256MB should be enough
[12:28] <XVampireX> and it asks me for 768 swap
[12:28] <BlueHeron> thats fine
[12:28] <fiendskull9> lol
[12:28] <XVampireX> Well, I followed what my friend told me
[12:28] <XVampireX> 3 partitions....
[12:28] <niki> i just installed some games with synaptic, and the sound isn't working on them...however, the sound works fine in gnome (like the little boop sound it makes when you make a selection), and also in amarok.  any ideas?
[12:28] <XVampireX> 1 for boot, 1 for home and 1 for swap
[12:28] <artur> i've problem with for ( index in array ) { print "e" } loop same times as array size  3x ~ "e e e" , but for ( index in array) { print array[index] } gives no output
[12:28] <BlueHeron> that might be your problem
[12:29] <mwe> XVampireX: well whatever. I keep everything on one partition
[12:29] <BlueHeron> the boot partition
[12:29] <Sergi0> XVampireX whats are the sizes
[12:29] <BlueHeron> do it without the boot partition
[12:29] <L0ch> rambo3: Hahaha, funny video but instructive.
[12:29] <fiendskull9> niki, you cant have amarokgaim/or any other sound apps running whilst playing
[12:29] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: not true
[12:29] <fiendskull9> niki, because they all use dev/dcp
[12:29] <rem> PK11_Authenticate failed
[12:29] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: if you use alsa you can
[12:29] <niki> fiendskull9, i thought about that too...i turned off amarok and had the same problem
[12:29] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: amarok can use alsa.
[12:29] <XVampireX> 5gb for boot 35gb for home and 768 for swap
[12:29] <tanuki> can someone tell me what the following means? umount: it seems /dev/sda2 is mounted multiple times
[12:29] <tanuki> eject: unmount of `/media/ipod' failed
[12:29] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, i know, i always set my audio progs to oss out
[12:29] <BlueHeron> 5GB FOR BOOT
[12:29] <BlueHeron> LOL
[12:29] <XVampireX> That's what he told me
[12:29] <Sergi0> :)
[12:29] <BlueHeron> thats terrible
[12:29] <mwe> XVampireX: why'd you even have a seperate /boot partition?
[12:30] <niki> fiendskull9, what should i do?
[12:30] <XVampireX> not boot partition, I mean plain / partition whatever it's called
[12:30] <BlueHeron> here's my setup 5gb for 10gb for /usr 140 gb for /home 5gb for /tmp
[12:30] <fiendskull9> niki, what games are they
[12:30] <Amaranth> /boot does not need 5gb
[12:30] <mwe> XVampireX: and 50MB or so would probably be more thanb enough
[12:30] <BlueHeron> 5gb for /
[12:30] <Amaranth> oh, you mean /
[12:30] <niki> fiendskull9, supertux and bumprace
[12:30] <BlueHeron> yea
[12:30] <BlueHeron> 5gb is good for
[12:30] <BlueHeron>  /
[12:30] <Amaranth> 5gb for / might be too small
[12:30] <BlueHeron> nah
[12:30] <BlueHeron> it works fine
[12:30] <XVampireX> I only got 40gb
[12:30] <BlueHeron> if /usr is on another part
[12:30] <BlueHeron> and /tmp ...
[12:30] <fiendskull9> niki, see if they have audio options in there prefrences, and set them to use oss (if u can)
[12:31] <mwe> XVampireX: I that case I'd go with just one partition
[12:31] <niki> fiendskull9, in supertux, the sound option was completely grayed out :S
[12:31] <davidmoore83> OK next problem - built in Soundblaster 24
[12:31] <BlueHeron> i have /home /tmp /usr and / on dif partitions
[12:31] <fiendskull9> niki, damn
[12:31] <BlueHeron> no swap
[12:31] <fiendskull9> !alsa
[12:31] <ubotu> I heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[12:31] <mwe> XVampireX: but that's just me. I don't see the point in loads of partitions for a home computer
[12:31] <fiendskull9> !tell niki about alsa
[12:31] <XVampireX> so what should I have?
[12:31] <BlueHeron> i'd go with 2 parts
[12:31] <BlueHeron> one for all system files
[12:31] <BlueHeron> and one for /home
[12:32] <XVampireX> what about swap?
[12:32] <mwe> XVampireX: just one big partition and a swap partition is my advice
[12:32] <BlueHeron> yea and a swap.
[12:32] <BlueHeron> mwe: putting home on a seperate is *always* a good idea
[12:32] <rem> PK11_Authenticate failed -- what is that  ?? thats when it aks for the NSS user ..
[12:32] <void^> i'd go with that BlueHeron recommends
[12:32] <mwe> BlueHeron: why is that?
[12:32] <polpak> XVampireX, I say one small partition < 10GB, one swap, and put the rest on /home
[12:32] <XVampireX> BlueHeron: That's what I did...
[12:32] <rem> in evolution
[12:32] <davidmoore83> BlueHeron: any ideas about built in SB 24?
[12:32] <tanuki> can someone tell me what this means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10932
[12:32] <polpak> mwe, makes reinstalls easier
[12:32] <BlueHeron> davidmoore83: nope
[12:32] <XVampireX> polpak: That's what I did
[12:32] <polpak> mwe, you can format the / partition without mucking up your personal files
[12:32] <fiendskull9> mwe, you dont lose all your documents
[12:33] <mwe> polpak: its easy with once partition as well. you don't have to erase /home because you have just one partition
[12:33] <XVampireX> Also
[12:33] <Sergi0> XvampireX, try to reinstall with another cd (if u have one) and try over, then come back here, and if there is an erro try to remember the info
[12:33] <XVampireX> Am I supposed to use LMV?
[12:33] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: no
[12:33] <XVampireX> or whatever it was
[12:33] <mwe> polpak: you can just rename /home then erase the other stuff from a live cd
[12:33] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: how big is your h
[12:33] <BlueHeron> d
[12:33] <Sergi0> >40gb
[12:33] <tanuki> can someone tell me how to eject my ipod? i already umounted it
[12:34] <mwe> polpak: reformatting should not be necesary
[12:34] <tanuki> but the ipod says do not disconnect
[12:34] <XVampireX> 40gb
[12:34] <void^> it generally helps with fs efficiency if you keep different usage patterns in different fs
[12:34] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: i'd go 10gb / partition and 30gb /home
[12:34] <Sergi0> and a swap ...
[12:34] <XVampireX> what about swap?
[12:34] <BlueHeron> and the swap
[12:34] <XVampireX> how much for swap?
[12:34] <BlueHeron> minuses from the home
[12:34] <BlueHeron> minused*
[12:34] <Sergi0> 512 is fine for u
[12:34] <BlueHeron> umm... 768 should be fine
[12:34] <polpak> XVampireX, supposed to be 2x your physical ram
[12:34] <BlueHeron> 512-768 you make the call
[12:34] <BlueHeron> i have 1gig ram and i never use a swap
[12:34] <BlueHeron> and i never have problems ..
[12:35] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, i have 1 gb of ram, with a 2gb swap.
[12:35] <mwe> polpak: so for 4GB of RAM you should have 8GB swap. I don't think so
[12:35] <void^> 500mb swap is bare minimum with 256mb ram
[12:35] <polpak> mwe, that's what the kernel devs recommend
[12:35] <XVampireX> And what kind of partitioning should I do exactly?
[12:35] <GnarusLeo> how would i go about changing my whole interface from gnome to kde?
[12:35] <XVampireX> You said there is a guide for installation... where?
[12:35] <void^> (unless you never do anything besides webbrowsing)
[12:35] <polpak> GnarusLeo, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <mwe> polpak: who are you refering to here? I never saw linus or andrew or someone like that say that
[12:35] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: that's a waste
[12:36] <BlueHeron> mwe: nope you shouldn't if you have 4gb of ram you don't need a swap lol
[12:36] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, ive got a 500 gb harddrive, lol. waste isnt a word in my case.
[12:36] <mwe> BlueHeron: exactly my point
[12:36] <redguy> BlueHeron: not true
[12:36] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: it can actually reduce performance though
[12:36] <void^> if it's a heavy load db server you might still need swap..
[12:36] <fiendskull9> polpak, kubuntu desktop apt0-get will install all kde programs
[12:36] <BlueHeron> void^: lol but it isn
[12:36] <natalie> hello again, I went ahead and installed the server version of 5.10 and it installed fine.
[12:36] <BlueHeron> :_P
[12:36] <tanuki> can someone explain to me how to eject my ipod?
[12:36] <BlueHeron> all i know is with 1gb of ram i have never needed a swap.
[12:37] <fiendskull9> GnarusLeo, do sudo apt-get install kdebase
[12:37] <BlueHeron> tanuki: sudo umount /dev/ipod
[12:37] <BlueHeron> wherever it's mounted
[12:37] <BlueHeron> use mount to find out
[12:37] <tanuki> i already unmounted it
[12:37] <natalie> is there anyway to change a server version in to a normal version?
[12:37] <BlueHeron> then just pull it out
[12:37] <tanuki> it was mounted twice for some reason
[12:37] <tanuki> but my ipod still says do not disconnect
[12:37] <natalie> without re-installing
[12:37] <BlueHeron> tanuki: it will always say that
[12:37] <polpak> mwe,  http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0101.3/1225.html
[12:37] <tanuki> great
[12:37] <Sergi0> natalie> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <frank23> natalie: yes:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:38] <redguy> BlueHeron: if you would have swap you could use more of your memory. Rarely used memory pages would get swapped
[12:38] <XVampireX> So is there a guide to install or not?
[12:38] <natalie> here is a question though, If I was having problems before with it freezing, is there any way to ensure that I won't have the same problem?
[12:38] <fiendskull9> polpak, whenever someone asks about changing kde interface, confirm they want ALL the kde programs, kubuntu-desktop install all its programs too, if they just want kde interface, then do apt-get kdebase.
[12:38] <mwe> polpak: did you read the post?
[12:38] <BlueHeron> redguy: swap is not needed with 1gb of ram +
[12:38] <XVampireX> Meh, bye
[12:38] <patrick52222> how do i install icon themes
[12:39] <mwe> polpak: linus says "But there really is no "fixed" rule: it can depend a lot on your usage patterns"
[12:39] <patrick52222> /home/patrick/Desktop/32146-glass-icons.tar.gz
[12:39] <patrick52222>  this is the format
[12:39] <polpak> mwe,  he also said ""memory x 2" is probably a good rule. With normal usage patterns, at the
[12:39] <polpak> point you fully use up your swap, you _want_ the system to start killing
[12:39] <polpak> things off due to out-of-memory errors."
[12:39] <void^> well, needed, reasonable, useful, there are a few small differences there..
[12:39] <tristanmike> patrick52222: open up the theme manager and install, then select "theme details" to select the icons
[12:39] <polpak> grr
[12:39] <frank23> natalie: trying the live cd is probably the best way to check if ubuntu will work correctly
[12:39] <polpak> I don't know why xchat did that
[12:39] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: how do you imagine your ram spent if 15x kernels spent at 1x time?
[12:39] <nootrope> should BB boot up and automatically find a 10BaseT network connection? i have my laptop plugged into a router but have to "Activate" eth0 everytime i boot into Ubuntu.
[12:39] <BlueHeron> patrick52222: go to theme's and theme details then icons and drag that file into the window
[12:39] <redguy> BlueHeron: as I said: not true. Googling for proof
[12:39] <mwe> polpak: he's been wrong before. 8GB swap for 4GB of RAM is way over dimensioned
[12:40] <BlueHeron> kingspawn: dunno what you are saying
[12:40] <natalie> frank23, what i don't get is why it will work if i run the gdm from recovery mode, but won't otherwise.
[12:40] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, i play UT2004, on high performance, usually with TS in bg, and i have 1 gb of ram. i used to not have swap, and it lagged, i added swap, and it doesnt lag. i feel it nescessary to have swap. its personal usage prefrence/
[12:40] <patrick52222> cheers works now tahnks you all
[12:40] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: i don't play games, but i do burn dvd's .. and i have never had a problem
[12:40] <mwe> polpak: and for 64 MB of RAM you want 256 swap or more
[12:40] <frank23> natalie: not sure what could be the cause
[12:40] <polpak> mwe, well without delving into the details of what the OP was going to be doing with his computer I was attempting to give him a general case.
[12:40] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: how do you image your ram is spent if 50.000 proesses wants resources at one time?
[12:40] <BlueHeron> kingspawn: i run a learn system.
[12:40] <BlueHeron> lean*
[12:40] <natalie> frank23: alright, well, i'll just give it a try.
[12:41] <polpak> mwe, but if you want to know all the backstory and pug it into your magical formula for swap arbitration, don't let me stop you
[12:41] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: meaning?
[12:41] <taotime> hi folks anybody know how to get mp3 files (ringtones) to my motorola V551 GSM phone
[12:41] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, UT2004 on extreme settings is MUCH more demanding then dvd burnig, lol. it uses about 1.5 gb of ram on full settings.
[12:41] <BlueHeron> kingspawn: i don't run stuff for no reason
[12:41] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: stilll, you are on irc.
[12:41] <redguy> BlueHeron: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202
[12:41] <void^> it seems you buy ram for no reason :P
[12:41] <mwe> polpak: yeah. probably an ok rule of thumb, but a _very_ general rule
[12:41] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: again i don't play games... i just know i don't need a swap, and i have played games on pc's with noswap
[12:41] <polpak> mwe, I simply stated that 2x your ram is what's recommended by the kernel devs. And you claimed that they said no such thing. So I pointed out that they had, etc.
[12:42] <polpak> mwe, I didn't say it would blow up your computer if you used less/more than that
[12:42] <fiendskull9> redguy, you owned him with that link, lol.
[12:42] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: later, swap will be useless -> now it is used.
[12:42] <polpak> mwe, that's just waht they reccommend
[12:42] <mwe> polpak: linus is they?
[12:42] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: owned? grow up please. swap is not needed
[12:42] <polpak> mwe, I've read it elsewhere also
[12:43] <polpak> mwe,  it was just the first thread I could find
[12:43] <BlueHeron> This said, numerous Linux users do report success running a swapless system.
[12:43] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, lol, okay. im gonna make a survey. and run a benchmark :P just to be a smart ass.
[12:43] <mwe> polpak: it's still a very very general rule. just like linus himself suggests in the same post
[12:43] <redguy> BlueHeron: sure, you got more expertise that the guy who wrote one of the i/o shedulers for linux
[12:43] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, the linux users they surveyed must just use it to check there email.
[12:43] <BlueHeron> redguy: i got enough to know what works and i run no swap. period end of story /ignoring the word
[12:44] <BlueHeron> swap
[12:44] <budluva> does anyone here have a working broadcom wireless card (integrated) using breezy????? i have a broadcom 4318 card and was wondering if i have to use ndiswrapper or does the .deb from cafuego work??? im reading from the wiki and there are 2 methods, ndiswrapper and a .deb, just wondering which method people have had more luck with
[12:44] <fiendskull9> !wireless
[12:44] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:44] <polpak> mwe, I didn't say it wasn't a general rule.. I just said that that's the recommedation (which is therefore a general rule). If I wanted to get into the nitty gritty of each individual person's machine and what apps they're going to run etc. I'd never get anything done
[12:44] <budluva> fiendskull9, thanks bro
[12:44] <fiendskull9> lol
[12:44] <fiendskull9> np
[12:45] <Rayman> fiendskull9: I just installed ubuntu dapper with XFCE to a PII 256 ram and it works like a charm.. barely swaps any. The thing is, after upgrading 64mb -> 256mb, windows 98 did not speed up at all.
[12:45] <mwe> polpak: I think it's too general to be a good recomendation, but maybe that's just me
[12:45] <Rayman> and yes, linux does use ram much more efficiently than windows. Of that I'm sure of.
[12:45] <Animole> moo
[12:45] <polpak> mwe, well than what general rule would you recommend?
[12:45] <mwe> polpak: none
[12:45] <Rayman> I've read some posts about microsoft forcing swap for spying purposes etc ;<
[12:45] <mwe> polpak: I'd look at the system in question
[12:45] <BlueHeron> i'd say if you have more then 1gb you don't need a swap.
[12:46] <Animole> Quick question.... I have an old Compaq laptop with a D-Link wireless card, will Ubuntu support that card?
[12:46] <fiendskull9> !wireless
[12:46] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:46] <DBO> Rayman, you can take off your tinfoil hat...
[12:46] <BlueHeron> haha
[12:46] <fiendskull9> 2 wireless questions in less than 2 mins :_/
[12:46] <Rayman> DBO: you never know :f
[12:47] <polpak> mwe, well then you have far more free time than I do
[12:47] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: they never stop
[12:47] <BlueHeron> i dunno why people bother using wireless
[12:47] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, lol.
[12:47] <mwe> polpak: whatever. let's drop it
[12:47] <polpak> I'll just point anyone asking about swap in your direction
[12:47] <niki> hello....i am not getting any sound when i run games (supertux), but sounds work fine in gnome.  i followed the directions given by !alsa, but i'm still having the same problem...any ideas?
[12:47] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, exactly, its slow. ineffecient. goes down alot
[12:47] <DBO> Rayman, yeah, well you can definately disable it if you want... but it will just swap file in RAM then
[12:47] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: yep
[12:47] <Blippe> BlueHeron, cause it is so easy to set up?
[12:47] <BlueHeron> Blippe: wireless is?
[12:47] <fiendskull9> Blippe, not as easy as pluggin in a wire.
[12:47] <BlueHeron> Blippe: not from what i've seen..
[12:47] <conn> I'm streaming a dvd with vlc, and the cpu usage is about 20-30% and 70% idle cpu, but moving windows is very choppy. DMA is enabled for the DVD drive, can someone suggest another solution to the choppiness?
[12:48] <Wulstan> please help. i have an onboard nvidia soundcard, i've never used ubuntu before, and i have no sound. i've swapped stuff around in the multimedia system selector, and sound preferences. that's all i can think of to try.
[12:48] <polpak> niki, one sec
[12:48] <niki> polpak, k :)
[12:48] <BlueHeron> conn: how much ram
[12:48] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, well, linksys is pretty easy. but the routers overheat ALOT.
[12:48] <conn> BlueHeron: 1gb
[12:48] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: i have a linksys router, and a dlink switch both work great
[12:48] <toni_> hi ,,,,, is there a free software for linux which i can read pdf and edit in the same time ?
[12:48] <nootrope> yes no question: should BB boot up and automatically find a 10BaseT network connection? i have my laptop plugged into a router but have to "Activate" eth0 everytime i boot into Ubuntu.
[12:48] <BlueHeron> nootrope: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[12:48] <fiendskull9> !pdf
[12:48] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[12:48] <fiendskull9> hmm
[12:48] <_mick> i have an install problem, when installing the base system, it stalls at 6%, the machien is a p3 550, with 256m ram. can anyone help me with this?
[12:48] <mwe> toni_: you can convert to pdf from other formats
[12:49] <narg> this is odd. I'm on a breezy box, but there is no /etc/shadow...
[12:49] <nootrope> thanx BlueHeron!
[12:49] <fiendskull9> toni_, i dunno of any editors. you can try wine and adobe acrobat.
[12:49] <toni_> !pdf ?
[12:49] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, toni_
[12:49] <gn0me> Hello! I have a symbolic link in my homedir to a scripts directory on another harddrive. Basically, sometimes my homedir gets cluttered (I try to use a tmp/ dir for almost everything, but things don't always stay clean) and to clean my homedir, I perform a "rm *" in it, it deletes everything except the dirs.. but also takes the symbolic link with it. I have a script to do the cleaning and rebuild the link, but I was wondering if there's a better way to set 
[12:49] <BlueHeron> nootrope: do you have auto eth0 in that file somewhere ?
[12:49] <toni_> adobe is not free
[12:49] <Hal9000> how can i see how big the contents of a directory are, in shell?
[12:49] <niki> toni_, i got a pdf reader using automatix
[12:49] <toni_> ok ... i will check it
[12:49] <BlueHeron> Hal9000: ls -l i believe
[12:49] <nootrope> lemme check, BlueHeron
[12:49] <fiendskull9> toni_, gimme a sec, ill look up a pdf editor.
[12:49] <narg> Hal9000: ls -lh dir will do it
[12:49] <toni_> ok
[12:50] <toni_> thx ,,
[12:50] <rebelguys6> du .
[12:50] <BlueHeron> narg: thanks i knew i was missing a letter
[12:50] <BlueHeron> :-P
[12:50] <polpak> mwe, sorry if I came off argumentative. I just take offence when my attempts to inform people is discounted as being "rediculous", and my sources are called into question.
[12:50] <polpak> bah
[12:50] <Hal9000> BlueHeron: i mean something like df -h, but for a directory. i want to know the size of the directory, with all its content and subdirs
[12:50] <nootrope> BlueHeron, nope. no auto eth0
[12:50] <narg> BlueHeron: h isn't needed, but it gives it in kBs or MBs, not in bytes :p
[12:50] <fiendskull9> toni_, sudo apt-get install kword
[12:50] <niki> polpak, did you have an idea for me?
[12:50] <rebelguys6> du -sh Hal9000
[12:50] <fiendskull9> toni_, enjoy :)
[12:50] <Sergi0> Hal9000: du -h name-of-dir
[12:50] <BlueHeron> nootrope: on the bottom add auto eth0
[12:51] <Hal9000> thanks
[12:51] <polpak> niki, yes
[12:51] <BlueHeron> nootrope: save it and reboot see if it works
[12:51] <nootrope> cool. thanks, BlueHeron!
[12:51] <nootrope> ok
[12:51] <Wulstan> please help. i have an onboard nvidia soundcard, i've never used ubuntu before, and i have no sound. i've swapped stuff around in the multimedia system selector, and sound preferences. that's all i can think of to try.
[12:51] <fiendskull9> Wulstan, hmmmm.
[12:51] <toni_> ....
[12:51] <fiendskull9> !nvidia
[12:51] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:51] <toni_> sudo apt-get install kword
[12:51] <fiendskull9> toni_, yes.
[12:51] <toni_> is stoping and wants a cd
[12:52] <fiendskull9> toni_, what!?
[12:52] <fiendskull9> toni_, thats not right.... hmm
[12:52] <tristanmike> toni_: put the cd in
[12:52] <niki> toni_, don' tyou have the cd?
[12:52] <fiendskull9> tristanmike, its a free program
[12:52] <redguy> gn0me: ls -1 | grep -v the_link_filename | xargs rm
[12:52] <toni_> ok i will do
[12:52] <polpak> niki, try sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-esd
[12:52] <tristanmike> toni_: then comment that line out of your sources.list to avoid that
[12:52] <Bog_> can anyone here suggest a list manager for sending out monthly news letters?
[12:52] <fiendskull9> niki & tristanmike, its a apt-get program. kword. free.
[12:52] <gn0me> redguy: Ooh, thank you. :)
[12:53] <Bog_> and managing subscriptions
[12:53] <tristanmike> fiendskull9: yeah, it wants the ubuntu cd
[12:53] <michael> what channel was for scripters?
[12:53] <fiendskull9> tristanmike, ok.
[12:53] <niki> polpak, trying, ty :)
[12:53] <toni_> ok
[12:53] <toni_> now is working
[12:53] <fiendskull9> michael, as in OO programming?
[12:53] <michael> yea
[12:53] <fiendskull9> michael, any specific language?
[12:53] <nootrope> BlueHeron: sorry, the line *was* there all along. So i guess it's not the problem.
[12:53] <polpak> niki, if that doesn't help you can also try libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[12:53] <michael> .sh file kinda thing
[12:53] <fiendskull9> michael, #sh
[12:53] <niki> polpak, k :)
[12:53] <tristanmike> toni_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   put a # in front of the cd line, and ctrl-x to save
[12:53] <BlueHeron> nootrope: okay do me a favor, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:54] <fiendskull9> michael, one guy there
[12:54] <nootrope> yep. brb
[12:54] <fiendskull9> michael, #scripting
[12:54] <michael> O, i remember #bash  - thanks though
[12:54] <taotime> i m running ubuntu on a dell inspiron 5160 with a wireless network card. i put in the card but how will i know it is working
[12:54] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, here we go again :O lol.
[12:54] <fiendskull9> taotime, umm, open firefox?
[12:54] <toni_> why ?
[12:55] <clemyeats> taotime : type iwconfig
[12:55] <fiendskull9> toni_, itll get kword from the repos instead of cd
[12:55] <toni_>  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list what does it mean
[12:55] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: lol
[12:55] <toni_> ok
[12:55] <BlueHeron> toni_: run it in terminal ..
[12:55] <tristanmike> toni_: me? to avoid that pesky "asks for the cd" thing
[12:55] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, im gonna keep count
[12:55] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: lol
[12:55] <toni_> ah
[12:55] <tristanmike> toni_: that edits your "sources.list" file
[12:55] <toni_> but now is working and installing
[12:55] <narg> I'm configuring webmin, and in the miniserv.conf file, it has allow=127.0.0.1. I changed it to *, but it still denies nonlocalhosters. Do I need to run something?
[12:55] <Wulstan>  please help. i have an onboard nvidia soundcard, i've never used ubuntu before, and i have no sound. i've swapped stuff around in the multimedia system selector, and sound preferences. that's all i can think of to try. it's sound.
[12:56] <toni_> so i will wait ,,, until it finished the work
[12:56] <tristanmike> toni_: yeah, when you install stuff in the future though
[12:56] <toni_> ok ... thats a good tip
[12:56] <tristanmike> toni_: just a suggestion ;)
[12:56] <toni_> yes ... thats goood ,, thanks
[12:56] <nootrope> BlueHeron: http://pastebin.com/625985
[12:56] <redguy> Wulstan: could you paste the output of aumix -c 0 to the patebin?
[12:57] <redguy> !tell Wulstan about pastebin
[12:57] <BlueHeron> nootrope: what kind of connection is it, cable wired or.. ?
[12:57] <taotime> fiendskull9 :  clem_yeats : i tried both but nothing is happening
[12:57] <Wulstan> redguy, i'm afraid that means nothing to me.
[12:57] <redguy> Wulstan: do you know how to open a terminal?
[12:57] <nootrope> BlueHeron: ethernet cable to a Linksys router => DSL modem
[12:57] <Wulstan> redguy, yes
[12:57] <polpak> narg, are you sure that it's webmin that's denyting the access?
[12:58] <niki> polpak, that worked, thank you very much!
[12:58] <polpak> niki, =)
[12:58] <redguy> Wulstan: enter amixer -c 0 in the terminal
[12:58] <narg> polpak: Error - Access denied for 63.173.190.179 <- this is all I get.
[12:58] <BlueHeron> nootrope: then it uses pppoe, one second
[12:58] <BlueHeron> !pppoe
[12:58] <ubotu> well, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:58] <polpak> niki, it's cause some of the oss drivers don't work well with certain cards
[12:58] <redguy> Wulstan: copy the output of that command and paste it to the pastebin
[12:58] <redguy> Wulstan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:58] <niki> polpak, gotcha....thanks again....now i can play supertux all night with sound w00t
[12:58] <polpak> niki, and oss is what is installed by default for sdl lib (which is used by most games)
[12:59] <polpak> niki, it'll get solarwolf sound working too
[12:59] <redguy> Wulstan: and give me the link to the pasted output so that I can see it
[12:59] <nootrope> BlueHeron: but the router does the PPPoE connection, no?
[12:59] <niki> polpak, good...thats another i downloaded...haven't played it yet tho :)
[12:59] <echostorm> hi... can anyone assist me in getting my svideo tv-out working with ubuntu? I have the nvidia drivers installed and working properly... and get tv out during post and boot, but nothing until ubuntu begins shutdown.
[12:59] <BlueHeron> nootrope: do you have it set to do the conf?
[12:59] <polpak> narg, hrm.. don't know much about webmin I'm afraid
[12:59] <nootrope> ubuntu doesn't need to login via PPPoE if it's plugged into one of the router's ethernet ports, yes/no?
[01:00] <narg> polpak: does that look like a filewall error to you, or a webmin error?
[01:00] <patrick52222> how do i change the screensplash picture
[01:00] <BlueHeron> nootrope: is the router set to do the configuer of pppoe ?
[01:00] <nootrope> BlueHeron: yes.
[01:00] <polpak> narg, where are you seeing the error? is it in the browser, or a popup, or a log?
[01:00] <Wulstan> redguy, i think it's there, hang on and i'll find the link...
[01:00] <BlueHeron> nootrope: ok do ifconfig -a in a term and pastebin the results
[01:00] <narg> polpak: browser.
[01:00] <toni_> wow .... kword is working ......
[01:00] <patrick52222> how do i change the screensplash picture in gnome
[01:00] <toni_> thanks
[01:00] <nootrope> BlueHeron: ok. brb
[01:01] <Wulstan> redguy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10934
[01:01] <bimberi> !splash
[01:01] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[01:01] <Wulstan> redguy, i really don't know that i've done that correctly...
[01:01] <redguy> Wulstan: you did, wait a sec
[01:03] <Stormx2> eek... how do I symlink again/
[01:03] <nootrope> BlueHeron: http://pastebin.com/625987
[01:03] <XVampireX> I'm back with the error message
[01:03] <redguy> Stormx2: man ln
[01:03] <nootrope> BlueHeron: please note that i'm currently connected but only because i manually activated the Ethernet connection
[01:04] <XVampireX> "An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system.
[01:04] <XVampireX> "
[01:04] <XVampireX> Could anyone help me?
[01:05] <giuliano> ok ok ma qualcuno mi vede e mi saluta grazie
[01:05] <Stormx2> I guess... ln -s /path/to/current/directory /path/to/symlink ?
[01:05] <redguy> Wulstan: hmm, everything looks fine. You might try turning off the IEC958 output
[01:05] <redguy> Stormx2: ln -s /path/to/the/target /path/to/symlink
[01:05] <Wulstan> redguy: specifically where? (sorry)
[01:05] <XVampireX> The people I talked to just a few seconds ago....
[01:05] <XVampireX> "An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system."
[01:05] <Bog_> anyone know of a preinstalled ubuntu virtual machine?
[01:06] <fiendskull9> does anyone know what "window maker" will be in the repos? will it be apt-get wm?
[01:06] <redguy> Wulstan: in the mixer settings, there should be a speaker icon in top right cornet of your desktop
[01:06] <giuliano> by by
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> How to "disable the check for a default display manager"?
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> fiendskull9: wmaker
[01:07] <fiendskull9> tonyyarusso, thanks man
[01:07] <chavo> Bog there's one for vmware
[01:07] <polpak> XVampireX, my guess is either not enough disk space, or bad cd.. ?
[01:07] <fiendskull9> tonyyarusso, im thinking bout trying it out, they talked about it in tux december 2005 issue.
[01:07] <redguy> Wulstan: if it's not that, sorry I can't help you
[01:07] <XVampireX> Can't be not enough diskspace
[01:07] <XVampireX> most likely bad cdrom
[01:07] <XVampireX> Can't be bad cd
[01:07] <fiendskull9> toots] 
[01:07] <Bog_> chavo: I'm looking for server applications, not workstation
[01:08] <Bog_> chavo: I know vmware has an appliance download which is a user desktop
[01:08] <Wulstan> redguy: i see the 'mixer', but nothing with "IEC958 output" to be seen.
[01:08] <redguy> Bog_: you might have luck with xen I suppose
[01:08] <msid> can anybody tell me any video capture applications besides kino which is for i394 devices and xawtv which i am already aware of ?
[01:08] <^Odd^> is there anyone who can tell me why ubuntu will not run my agp bus which is powered by a SiS 746 chipset? it used to but something changed in the updates.....not even vesa works right. can anyone point me in the right direction ubuntu will not see the chipset or the agp bus but suse does O_o....
[01:08] <chavo> yeah I don't know of any
[01:08] <Bog_> redguy: I am looking for a vmware virtual machine with ubuntu preinstalled
[01:08] <Wulstan> redguy: i mean 'volume control'
[01:09] <XVampireX> So there's no fix?
[01:09] <cappiz> someone here that could help me out with some sed?
[01:09] <vladuz976> anybody here know how to use banshee with ipod?
[01:09] <matej_> i have this yellow icons in start menu in icewm if i pick up any of theme but Infadel! Why?
[01:10] <jerware> jerware
[01:10] <polpak> XVampireX, did you run the tests on the CD?
[01:10] <XVampireX> what tests?
[01:10] <polpak> XVampireX, when you first start the install it offers to test the CD
[01:10] <Bog_> is it easy to perform a text mode ubuntu install with just server components?
[01:11] <^Odd^> so know one has any ideas what might be causein my issue with my agp?
[01:11] <XVampireX> It doesn't?
[01:11] <XVampireX> I mean, it doesn't for me...
[01:11] <polpak> Bog_, fairly easy yes
[01:11] <matej_> i have this yellow icons in start menu in icewm if i pick up any of theme but Infadel! Why?
[01:11] <XVampireX> I don't think it's corrupt, I received it today in the mail!
[01:11] <redguy> Wulstan: sorry buddy, don't have gnome here, so I can't check and tell you what to set. Propably someone else in here might help you. By the command output I can tell, that your card is recognized, so all you have to do is to mess with the mixer and/or setup
[01:11] <Bog_> polpak: is there a text-mode software update feature?
[01:11] <polpak> Bog_, yes, apt-get
[01:12] <redguy> Wulstan: setup of sound in gnome
[01:12] <Bog_> polpak: does that tell me what patches are missing?
[01:12] <redguy> Bog_: yes, aptitude
[01:12] <polpak> Bog_, not sure what you mean by "patches are missing" ..
[01:12] <Wulstan> redguy: cheers. i'm still lost i'm afraid. i'll keep messing about...
[01:12] <XVampireX> I guess I'll have to try this "test cd" feature or whatever
[01:13] <Bog_> pol: will it automatically detect updates I'm missing?
[01:13] <polpak> Bog_, yes
[01:13] <tristanmike> TeChGuY-Canadian: linuxcommand.org
[01:13] <redguy> !tell Wulstan about sound
[01:13] <CosmoDad> if I reboot my machine, it instead powers down. How'd I fix that?
[01:13] <dyrne> say i have 2 active connections eth0 and eth1 is there a way to have my ftp program use eth1 while regular internet access is using eth0?
[01:13] <polpak> !tell TeChGuY-Canadian about CLI
[01:13] <redguy> Wulstan: see the link ubotu sent you, maybe that will help
[01:13] <Bog_> pol: ok, I'll try creating a virtual machine and installing ubuntu
[01:14] <niki^afk> every time i run apt-get, at the end, it tries to get something called msttcorefonts and it messes up...this happens no matter what i'm trying to apt-get.  any ideas?
[01:14] <CosmoDad> dyrne: you might be able to use iptables
[01:14] <Wulstan> redguy: thanks. i'll try... god this is confusing, but i'm not going back to xp. i swear it.
[01:15] <BlueHeron> where is the best place to add ifconfig eth0 up
[01:15] <BlueHeron> ?
[01:15] <BlueHeron> for loading a network interface on boot
[01:15] <dyrne> CosmoDad: no real experience with iptables guess its time to google :)
[01:15] <BlueHeron> dyrne: use firestarter
[01:15] <BlueHeron> dyrne: it gives it a gui
[01:15] <redguy> Wulstan: try in here later, maybe someone else will be able to help you
[01:15] <Wulstan> redguy: will do. thanks.
[01:15] <dyrne> k
[01:16] <Bog_> anyone in Toronto with an install CD?
[01:16] <redguy> BlueHeron: you might be interested in ifplugd
[01:17] <HOEHAVER> can someone gave me the link for the place you go when you have to type alot
[01:17] <BlueHeron> pastebin.com
[01:17] <redguy> BlueHeron: or, just edit /etc/network/interfaces and put a line with 'auto eth0'
[01:17] <HOEHAVER> thanks
[01:17] <BlueHeron> redguy: yea i'm helping somone and that didn't work
[01:17] <BlueHeron> redguy: it's a deeper problem then that
[01:18] <TheFaction20> can anyone help me with usb drivers?
[01:18] <redguy> BlueHeron: hmm ifconfig eth0 up is kindof a workaround...
[01:18] <BlueHeron> redguy: yea but if it works whats the problem0
[01:18] <BlueHeron> ;-)
[01:19] <BlueHeron> redguy: and it worked so problem solved
[01:19] <nootrope> thanks BlueHeron, and redguy!
[01:19] <corvax> just add a few lines to /etc/network/onterfaces to do that automatically
[01:19] <corvax> inter*
[01:19] <BlueHeron> nootrope: yep
[01:19] <niki> every time i run apt-get, at the end, it tries to get something called msttcorefonts and it messes up...this happens no matter what i'm trying to apt-get.  any ideas?
[01:20] <BlueHeron> niki: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:20] <TheFaction20> can someone help me get usb drivers so i can use my external drive?
[01:20] <polpak> niki, what error does it give?
[01:20] <niki> erm
[01:20] <TheFaction20> it will recognize it when i initially plug it in. but then seems to d/c after a minute or too
[01:20] <redguy> TheFaction20: hmm doesn't it work out of the box?
[01:20] <niki> hold on, trying BlueHeron's solution :)
[01:21] <TheFaction20> redguy: it does when in window
[01:21] <TheFaction20> s
[01:21] <TheFaction20> redguy: but for some reason it isn't beeing recognized my ubuntu on the install unless its named something else. b/c i want to install it on there
[01:21] <niki> polpak, now i'm not getting sound in chromium lol
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> How to take screenshots of X in general?  So I could get ones of the login screen, for instance.
[01:21] <polpak> niki, what is chromium?
[01:22] <niki> polpak, a game i got from synaptic
[01:22] <schloob> anyone care to list some reasons for switching from gentoo to ubuntu? after a little over a year of being a gentoo user, i'm kind of tired of the compile times and such. what does everyone like about ubuntu? :\
[01:22] <niki> polpak, scrolling space shooter kinda game
[01:22] <polpak> !info chromium
[01:22] <ubotu> chromium: (Fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 424 kB
[01:22] <wermut> tonyyarusso: use a camera (it is impossible as far as i know)
[01:22] <redguy> TheFaction20: "unless its named something else." <- could you elaborate on this?
[01:22] <tristanmike> schloob: "it just works" TM
[01:22] <CosmoDad> if I reboot my machine, it instead powers down. How'd I fix that?
[01:22] <nazty> i have a external hard drive mounted too /media/200gig does anyone know why i cant change to group owner
[01:22] <niki> CosmoDad, i have that same problem
[01:22] <Wulstan> redguy: done it. thanks for the help. i'm not sure what did it, but it works now. cheers.
[01:22] <BlueHeron> CosmoDad: try using sudo shutdown -r now
[01:22] <corvax> hey nice
[01:23] <BlueHeron> CosmoDad: in a terminal
[01:23] <corvax> a new game for the kids to play
[01:23] <corvax> hehe
[01:23] <redguy> Wulstan: yay! :-)
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> wermut: Hmm.  'k.  I thought there was some command-line thing integrated with Gimp that would take an image from a set display.
[01:23] <schloob> tristanmike: eh, that sounds good enough for me :)
[01:23] <TheFaction20> redguy:i was looking for the name of the device "wd mybook" or something like that. but there was nothing like that.  so i was unawre what was what
[01:23] <nootrope> BlueHeron: i closed our priv window and failed to note the name of the file we changed. it was in /etc/init.d
[01:23] <schloob> maybe i'll try it in vmware first, and if i like it i'll just go with it
[01:23] <CosmoDad>  BlueHeron: I did sudo reboot which is supposedly the same
[01:24] <redguy> TheFaction20: it might be called sda.
[01:24] <nootrope> bootmisc.sh?
[01:24] <tristanmike> schloob: i mean, this is a support channel, but I've naught had a problem, well, one that wasn't my own stupidity ;)
[01:24] <nootrope> BlueHeron: never mind. sorry :\
[01:24] <TheFaction20> redguy:is there a way i can see what hardware is connected?
[01:24] <NickGarvey> whats a good media player guys?
[01:24] <redguy> TheFaction20: in the installer?
[01:24] <BlueHeron> nootrope: you get it?
[01:25] <redguy> TheFaction20: we are talking about the installer, right?
[01:25] <TheFaction20> redguy:no, while im using the live cd
[01:25] <Sergi0> NickGarver: vlc plays almost all
[01:25] <wermut> tonyyarusso: I'm not totally sure it it is impossible, but the screenshots of login screens I've seen so far were taken with a camera.
[01:25] <NickGarvey> !vlc
[01:25] <ubotu> well, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[01:25] <redguy> TheFaction20: are you using it right now?
[01:25] <NickGarvey> !xmms
[01:25] <ubotu> I guess xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[01:25] <schloob> tristanmike: oh, it is a support channel. i'm kind of used to chatting in distrobution channels :P anyways i'll  give it a try. thanks and bye!
[01:25] <TheFaction20> redguy:yes
[01:25] <corvax> Mplayer  or  vlc
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> wermut: Well, I have that option too, so if I don't hear something else soon, I can go with that.
[01:25] <nootrope> BlueHeron: yep. thanks
[01:25] <nazty> i have a external hard drive mounted too /media/200gig does anyone know why i cant change to group owner
[01:26] <BlueHeron> nazty: what a weird mount spot
[01:26] <nazty> whys that
[01:26] <BlueHeron> 200gig lol
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> wermut: Maybe this is what I'm looking for... 'man import'
[01:26] <BlueHeron> :-P
[01:26] <nazty> :)
[01:26] <nazty> it specifys the drive
[01:26] <corvax> nah you can preview a login screen
[01:26] <nazty> ;D
[01:26] <BlueHeron> hehe
[01:26] <corvax> then do a screenshot
[01:26] <nazty> im trying to chgrp it from root
[01:26] <nazty> and it wont let me
[01:26] <nazty> chgrp: changing group of `200gig': Operation not permitted
[01:26] <BlueHeron> nazty: did you use sudosu ?
[01:26] <BlueHeron> nazty: sudo su first
[01:27] <redguy> TheFaction20: run tail -f /var/log/messages in a terminal, plug in the drive and paste the output to pastebin.com please
[01:27] <nazty> yea
[01:27] <nazty> im su'ed in as root
[01:27] <nazty> root can write to it
[01:27] <nazty> read from ti
[01:27] <^Odd^> i have a question the updated version of ubuntu dosen't see my agp bus or be able to use it....but the live cd can is there a way to figure out why?
[01:27] <nazty> my user cant write jsut read
[01:27] <redguy> nazty: what filesystem is on the drive?
[01:27] <wermut> tonyyarusso: It seems that I was wrong, indeed.
[01:27] <nazty> fat32
[01:27] <nazty> its a vfat
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> wermut: I guess we both learn something :)
[01:28] <void^> you cannot change permissions or owner because fat32 doesn't support permissions or owner
[01:28] <BlueHeron> !ati
[01:28] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:28] <redguy> nazty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> How to install kdm theme from tarball?
[01:28] <nazty> yeah
[01:28] <polpak> void^, you can.. you just have to remount it
[01:28] <corvax> apt-get install kdm
[01:28] <nazty> but i cant change to permissions of the directory?
[01:28] <corvax> instead
[01:28] <BlueHeron> question: if i download the drivers from ati and use those will i get better performance ???
[01:28] <patrick52222> drag them into the window i think
[01:29] <polpak> BlueHeron, follow the wiki..
[01:29] <^Odd^> so does anyone have any idea about what is causeing my agp slot not to work after a fresh ubuntu inastall but the live cd runs it fine?
[01:29] <tonyyarusso> corvax: A theme, not the program.
[01:29] <polpak> BlueHeron, the drivers tend to be pretty well up to date
[01:29] <corvax> ah
[01:30] <corvax> untar it and then open the theme manager or whatever
[01:30] <redguy> nazty: vfat doesn't have ownership, does it?
[01:30] <corvax> and point to it
[01:30] <BlueHeron> polpak: i'm using the fglrx and ic an't do anything i 3ndi t's all very slow
[01:30] <corvax> i forget where the themes a files are located
[01:30] <corvax> you can move it there
[01:30] <corvax> the folder if you want'
[01:30] <polpak> redguy, you can specify which uid and gid to use as the owner and group for the files when you mount it
[01:31] <harm_>  /j #linuxgaming.net
[01:31] <polpak> BlueHeron, what video card, and what app?
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> corvax: Okay, I'll try that.
[01:31] <redguy> polpak: that was a rhetorical question :-)
[01:31] <BlueHeron> polpak: ati x700 pro 256MB pci-express and any 3d game like chromium or tuxracer
[01:31] <TheFaction20> redguy:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10936
[01:31] <polpak> BlueHeron, what is the output of glxinfo | grep -i direct
[01:32] <redguy> TheFaction20: so it's sdc now
[01:32] <redguy> TheFaction20: you should be able to access it
[01:32] <polpak> BlueHeron, you don't have the fglrx drivers installed
[01:32] <redguy> TheFaction20: provided that you have any partitions on it
[01:32] <BlueHeron> polpak: i'm using them... ??
[01:33] <budluva> hey everyone, just got my ati drivers working...8.16.20, was using "ati" driver before and had beautiful widescreen resolution, but am now stuck at 1024x768, tried editing xorg.conf but still wont let me go into widescreen res....anyone have a work around besides running latest ati drivers?
[01:33] <Aaron_Mason> !mp3
[01:33] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:33] <CarlF1> where is a description of what "recovery mode" is?
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> corvax: I'm not seeing an add option in the login manager part of kcontrol...
[01:33] <TheFaction20> redguy: now i get this after
[01:33] <polpak> !tell BlueHeron about ati
[01:33] <TheFaction20> redguy:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10938
[01:34] <redguy> TheFaction20: hmmm
[01:34] <redguy> TheFaction20: no idea what this means, sorry
[01:35] <TheFaction20> redguy:damn
[01:35] <polpak> CarlF1, recovery mode (as in from the grub menu) is just booting to a root prompt
[01:35] <whnp> hey anyone got a good resource for making the bcm43xx driver work on breezy?
[01:35] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, anyone know anything about Enemy Territory ?
[01:35] <Seveas> whnp, yes, it goes like this: 1) upgrade to dapper 2) done
[01:36] <whnp> seveas I am on dapper
[01:36] <budluva> whnp, let me know, just got fglrx working on my lappy, broadcom drivers are next for me :p
[01:36] <Seveas> whnp, then why do you ask about breezy?
[01:36] <whnp> when I upgraded it broke my ndiswrapper setup
[01:36] <patrick52222> where can i get an epson stylus photo r300 drivers for ubuntu
[01:36] <whnp> Seveas, opps ... sorry
[01:36] <Seveas> if you blacklist bcm43xx you can use ndiswrapper
[01:36] <nazty> is there a way to reload /etc/ftsab
[01:36] <redguy> TheFaction20: sorry have to go to sleep, kindof late in here...
[01:37] <^Odd^> does the ubuntu live cd allow you to install the i686 kernel from the cd?
[01:37] <TheFaction20> redguy:ok thanks for trying
[01:37] <CarlF1> polpak: thanks
[01:37] <Frogzoo> nazty: reboot
[01:37] <nazty> Frogzoo: besides rebooting
[01:37] <HOEHAVER> ok this really isnt a ubuntu question but it will have to do with it in the end bc im going to have a deul booter and if and one know what room to go to to answer my question that would be great
[01:37] <whnp> Seveas, just did a fresh install of flight5 since my interfaces file was borked beyond repair
[01:37] <Frogzoo> nazty: mount -a
[01:37] <HOEHAVER> lol sorry i didnt know it would that long
[01:37] <HOEHAVER> but yeah heres a link if you can help http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=626035
[01:37] <redguy> nazty: unmount /media/200gig && mount -a
[01:38] <whnp> Seveas, I am still getting the ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready error
[01:38] <patrick52222> where can i get epson stylus photo r300 drivers for ubuntu
[01:38] <whnp> I don't know where to take the debuging from there
[01:38] <TheFaction20> can anyone help me getting my western digital external drive to stay active?
[01:38] <Frogzoo> whnp: probly google on that error string
[01:38] <^Odd^> so is it possible to install i686 as the kernel from the ubuntu install cd instead of the i386 kernel?
[01:38] <budluva> Seveas, so broadcom drivers work in dapper?
[01:40] <sredna|konversat> how do i get sound in mpeg files in ubuntu (dapper)?
[01:40] <polpak> !tell sredna|konversat  about restricted
[01:40] <Name141> Any idea where I can get (what is equivlent to) drivers, for: NIC: Microsoft PCI Adaptor MN-130 , Printer: Dell Photo Printer 540 , Modem:  56K PCI Voice Modem SF-1156IV R9A
[01:41] <Pretto> hi guys
[01:41] <whnp> Frogzoo, been there
[01:41] <Pretto> i think that someone here could help me installing gaim2.0 beta
[01:41] <whnp> and in the ubuntu forums
[01:41] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, anyone play ET here ?
[01:41] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat join Ubuntu+1 they will help with dapper
[01:41] <Pretto> i got a .deb packcage from a website.. i installed it, but i have problems about ssl to make it work with msn account
[01:42] <TheFaction20> Can anyone help me in keeping my western digital external drive recognized?
[01:42] <Pretto> anyone could help me?
[01:42] <sredna|konversat> polpak: well, following those instructions does not work
[01:42] <sredna|konversat> i installed gstreamer-plugins-ugly, acode-mpeg, restarted arts and the video player, no luck
[01:42] <sredna|konversat> then i tried the older gstreamer version, no luck either
[01:43] <polpak> sredna|konversat, are you getting any sound to work?
[01:43] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat "  wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[01:43] <patrick52222>   sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i38"
[01:43] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, I am trying to run a game that says it requires directx, yet also says it's linux compatible... is there such a thing as linux directx ?
[01:43] <sredna|konversat> and all the yelling about restricted formats are nice, but i have to deal with the idiotic real work
[01:43] <patrick52222> sorry for long code
[01:43] <sredna|konversat> polpak: yes, ogg files works fine
[01:43] <Klowner> RemyLaptop: what game?
[01:43] <patrick52222> thats the mpeg codes
[01:43] <vladuz976> can someone help me connect an i pod so i can use it with gtkpod?
[01:43] <sredna|konversat> Klowner: it does not work, no sound in mpeg files/mp3
[01:44] <vladuz976> what filesystem do i use to mount the ipod?
[01:44] <SpecialBuddy> did the repositories change?
[01:44] <amonkey> is there a program that will let me take a window and put it in the tray?
[01:44] <^Odd^> so nobody knows if the ubuntu cd is capable of installing the i686 kernel from the cd at install? as maybe one of the boot options?
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> How to install kdm theme from tarball?  I don't see that option in kcontrol...
[01:44] <polpak> sredna|konversat, you need to follow the instructions on the wiki.. It does work, if you install everything it says
[01:44] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat: what are you using to play your files in
[01:44] <rebelguys6> !ipod
[01:44] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[01:44] <RemyLaptop> Klowner, Enemy Territory
[01:44] <sredna|konversat> polpak: and then do what with that file?
[01:45] <polpak> sredna|konversat, which file?
[01:45] <Klowner> RemyLaptop: download the linux version, it uses opengl, not directx
[01:45] <vladuz976> rebelguys6: that is what i was following
[01:45] <RemyLaptop> Klowner, I have...  when I start the game I can't see anything though...
[01:45] <vladuz976> but it's not being mounted
[01:45] <RemyLaptop> Only hear sound
[01:45] <rebelguys6> vladuz976, oh ok good
[01:45] <sredna|konversat> polpak: i can't see what i left out
[01:45] <SpecialBuddy> are there any examples of how the repositories configuration file should look?
[01:45] <Klowner> RemyLaptop: it's probably switching to a refresh rate that your monitor hates
[01:46] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat: what are you using to play your files in
[01:46] <sredna|konversat> who adviced me to get a deb package?
[01:46] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: i use kaffeine
[01:46] <RemyLaptop> Klowner, probably! (I'm using a laptop...) any idea how to fix it ?
[01:46] <HOEHAVER> can some one help me for real
[01:46] <RemyLaptop> seeing as how I can't actually get into the game to change the settings there :-P
[01:46] <Frogzoo> !tell RemyLaptop about res
[01:46] <HOEHAVER> like do you know what room atleast to go in to get the help i need
[01:46] <HOEHAVER> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=626035
[01:46] <Klowner> RemyLaptop: if you can launch it in windowed mode or something
[01:46] <RemyLaptop> hm
[01:46] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  i think i did not sure
[01:47] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: what to do with it?
[01:47] <patrick52222> run it in the terminal
[01:47] <vladuz976> has anybody here successfully connected and mounted an ipod and is using it with gtkpod? please let me know what the trick is. i don't know what filesystem so specify to mount it. it isnot mounting automatically
[01:47] <Joetheodd> Is it possible to schedule a task to begin at a certain time, as a certain user?
[01:47] <patrick52222> just paste the code in a termianl and it should install the codes to rum mpegs
[01:47] <Frogzoo> Joetheodd: -> man cron
[01:48] <Klowner> aaaph, crap I gotta run
[01:48] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: run it?
[01:48] <sredna|konversat> ./<ling file name> ?
[01:48] <Amaranth> vladuz976: try rhythmbox or banshee
[01:48] <SpecialBuddy> did they change the repositories because synaptic is saying there is something wrong with the file?
[01:48] <rebelguys6> HOEHAVER, you need to get either MagicISO or Alcohol to burn mdf files
[01:48] <conn> if dmesg reports "Hyper-Threading is disabled", does that imply the processor supports HT? I have a Dell system and I see no BIOS option to enable HT, can I force it to be enabled under linux?
[01:48] <polpak> sredna|konversat, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:48] <conn> if dmesg reports "Hyper-Threading is disabled", does that imply the processor supports HT? I have a Dell system and I see no BIOS option to enable HT, can I force it to be enabled under linux?
[01:48] <vladuz976> Amaranth: i tried banshee, how do you make banshee show the ipod?
[01:49] <Joetheodd> Frogzoo: Thanks. Is cron running by default in warty?
[01:49] <conn> sorry for the double post :(
[01:49] <HOEHAVER> thanks man for real
[01:49] <HOEHAVER> you have helped alot
[01:49] <rebelguys6> good luck :)
[01:49] <Amaranth> vladuz976: it should have just showed up
[01:49] <vladuz976> Amaranth: it's not
[01:49] <dj-fu> cron does run by default yea
[01:49] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  just paste the commands from here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10939 ina terminal
[01:49] <Amaranth> vladuz976: sorry, i dunno what else to do as i don't have an ipod
[01:49] <BlueHeron> !ati
[01:49] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:49] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: sure, did that
[01:50] <patrick52222> then it should work
[01:50] <sredna|konversat> i still have no sound though
[01:50] <purple^haze> whats a good newsgroups client software ?
[01:50] <sredna|konversat> sigh
[01:51] <sredna|konversat> does anyone know a working distro?
[01:51] <av8> how can i change the looks of ubuntu to look like kde ?
[01:51] <djk_> sredna|konversat: debian, gentoo :)
[01:51] <sredna|konversat> that does not require me to compile everything?
[01:51] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  can you see the movie
[01:51] <dj-fu> ubuntu, sredna|konversat :] 
[01:51] <rebelguys6> fedora sredna|konversat
[01:51] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: sure
[01:51] <rebelguys6> :/
[01:51] <rebelguys6> av8, why not just download kde? :)
[01:51] <av8> from where?
[01:51] <riddlebox> I just did like 37 updates to my pc and now the second user I have on the machine cannot login to gnome, I can log into the failsafe console  but nothin that involves gnome, once I am in on the failsafe console I can call gui apps and they work?
[01:51] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  have you tried to run it in another media player
[01:51] <sredna|konversat> i did try rpm based distros some years ago
[01:52] <purple^haze> whats a good newsgroups client software ?
[01:52] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: amarok can't play mp3 files either
[01:52] <dj-fu> pan
[01:52] <av8> rebelguy i m kinda new to this
[01:52] <dj-fu> amarok is b0rked
[01:52] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: that is about what i have i believe
[01:52] <rebelguys6> !tell av8 about kde
[01:52] <djk_> dj-fu: b0rked?
[01:52] <dj-fu> yep
[01:52] <dj-fu> I couldn't get it to output sound, on dapper anyway
[01:53] <djk_> dj-fu: meaning 'the greatest app ever'? ;)
[01:53] <dj-fu> sif
[01:53] <dj-fu> riddimbox pisses on it
[01:53] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:   have you enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[01:53] <djk_> lol, sure.
[01:53] <ab0rted> using ubuntu makes u look sexy
[01:54] <dj-fu> only if you have xgl & compiz
[01:54] <dj-fu> ;] 
[01:54] <ab0rted> lol
[01:54] <Joetheodd> How do I change my console text editor from vi to pico?
[01:54] <fiendskull9> how do i run shell scripts?
[01:54] <dj-fu> Joetheodd, `pico file` instead of `vi file`
[01:54] <dj-fu> fiendskull9, chmod +x script && ./script
[01:54] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: i enabled universe + the corresponding source ones, which is what the wiki page said to do
[01:54] <Joetheodd> dj-fu I need to change it for things like crontab -e
[01:55] <dj-fu> The -e option is used to edit the  current  crontab  using  the  editor
[01:55] <dj-fu>        specified  by  the  VISUAL  or EDITOR environment variables.
[01:55] <dj-fu> man page ftw
[01:55] <sredna|konversat> artsplay can play them
[01:55] <sredna|konversat> interresting
[01:55] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  ok, what are you running KDE or Gnome
[01:56] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: kde
[01:56] <dj-fu> Joetheodd, if neither of $VISUAL or $EDITOR are defined, it uses /usr/bin/editor.
[01:56] <dj-fu> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2006-03-23 01:40 /usr/bin/editor -> /etc/alternatives/editor
[01:56] <dj-fu> which is of course VIM by default
[01:56] <Joetheodd> dj-fu how do I set $EDITOR to /usr/bin/pico?
[01:56] <dj-fu> export EDITOR=/usr/bin/pico
[01:56] <dj-fu> crontab -e
[01:57] <purple^haze> anybody know any good newsgroups client ?
[01:57] <TheFaction20> can someone help me getting my external drive to say active?
[01:57] <fiendskull9> whats the command to remove a folder
[01:57] <dj-fu> or `EDITOR=/usr/bin/pico crontab -e`
[01:57] <rebelguys6> fiendskull9, rmdir
[01:57] <dj-fu> fiendskull9, rm -rf <dir>
[01:57] <ifr> Hi, Y'all compiling question: I am patching a kernel and need to add a patch to the source following steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 I need to add the patch at some point. Is it as simple as unzipping the source linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 then doing patch -p0 < patch.file then make oldconfig and so on?
[01:57] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  have you installed the akode-mpeg package for amarok mp3 problem
[01:57] <rebelguys6> rm -rf is dangerous tho fiendskull9
[01:57] <dj-fu> ifr, yes, it's as simple as doing that.
[01:57] <ifr> dj-fu, thanks
[01:57] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: i installed what looked most like that
[01:57] <fiendskull9> rebelguys6, thanks for telling me after i ran the command :D
[01:58] <rebelguys6> :/
[01:58] <dj-fu> ifr, if the .patch file was generated in the the directory that is created when you intar linux-source, of course
[01:58] <sredna|konversat> the name wasn't exact
[01:58] <polpak> rebelguys6, sudo rm -rf is more dangerous =p
[01:58] <rebelguys6> that's true
[01:58] <dj-fu> It's not really dangerous, only if you use it unwisely
[01:58] <IamEthos> hey
[01:58] <zyellowman2> where can i get PS/2 mouse drivers, my mouse has slow response time
[01:58] <dj-fu> like, rm -rf /* instead of rm -rf ./*
[01:58] <ifr> dj-fu when you say generated you mean I copied that file into the same directory as the linux-source?
[01:58] <RemyLaptop> !opengl
[01:58] <ubotu> RemyLaptop: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:58] <rebelguys6> dj-fu, that's right, rmdir is completely benign though, much safer
[01:58] <polpak> RemyLaptop, what's the question?
[01:58] <dj-fu> ifr, yes, the patch file may have been made on the directory up or down from the untar directory, you may need to try patch -p1, p0 etc.
[01:59] <bryan> ubuntu-es  please
[01:59] <IamEthos> is there anyway for my workspaces to only show icons on the desktop they were created on?
[01:59] <RemyLaptop> hey friendly ubuntuers, would anyone have any great insights into how I can check whether I have opengl drivers installed?
[01:59] <bryan> in  spanish
[01:59] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat: sorry i cant help you any more as im use to Gnome and i only know a little about KDE
[01:59] <Joetheodd> Will cron run for root as well?
[01:59] <ifr> I see. Many thanks dj-fu. You say it's relatively painless?
[01:59] <dj-fu> ifr, relatively
[01:59] <polpak> RemyLaptop, glxinfo | grep direct
[01:59] <ifr> :)
[01:59] <ifr> thanks much. Wish me luck...
[01:59] <Joetheodd> dj-fu, Thanks man, vim was really confusing =p
[01:59] <dj-fu> RemyLaptop, `glxinfo`
[01:59] <polpak> RemyLaptop, will tell you if you have 3d accelleration
[01:59] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: mp3 support isn't related to the toolkit of your apps
[01:59] <dj-fu> Joetheodd, hehe :)
[01:59] <zyellowman2> anyone know where i can get PS/2 Mouse drivers?
[01:59] <bryan> habla algien espaol???
[01:59] <IamEthos> anyone?
[01:59] <dj-fu> !es
[01:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:59] <TheFaction20> does anyone have a usb drive working?
[02:00] <dj-fu> TheFaction20, yes
[02:00] <RemyLaptop> polpak it came back: "direct rendering: yes"
[02:00] <zyellowman2> Hablo un poco
[02:00] <dj-fu> iPod works too
[02:00] <IamEthos> also, window managers... what the heck is going on?
[02:00] <bryan> gracias
[02:00] <polpak> RemyLaptop, then you have 3d accellerated drivers
[02:00] <bryan> bye
[02:00] <RemyLaptop> ahk
[02:00] <RemyLaptop> thanks :)
[02:00] <TheFaction20> dj-fu:did you have to do anything special to keep it functioning? because my usb drive will be recognized then seem to disconnect
[02:00] <polpak> RemyLaptop, bust out the warcraft3, and ut2004 =p
[02:00] <IamEthos> what is the default window manager? I see a lot of utilities for window maker... should I use that?
[02:01] <IamEthos> I installed wmaker from synaptic
[02:01] <dj-fu> IamEthos, gdm ships by default with ubuntu
[02:01] <dj-fu> the gnome desktop
[02:01] <IamEthos> not sure if that was intelligent
[02:01] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat: im getting all my info from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and you have tried it all ant you
[02:01] <dj-fu> TheFaction20, no, works fine
[02:01] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, you might want to try 'dmesg' to see if there are any errors
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> polpak, are they free?
[02:01] <rishi> heloooo
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> :)
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> ET is ;-)
[02:01] <IamEthos> dj-fu: is Window Maker better/worse?
[02:01] <rishi> Can i Use easyubuntu in dapper?
[02:01] <dj-fu> A whole crapload worse
[02:01] <polpak> RemyLaptop, they're free as in I already payed for them... ;p
[02:02] <dj-fu> unless you really like it over GDM
[02:02] <RemyLaptop> actually, I think I have wc3 somewhere, windows version though...
[02:02] <IamEthos> dj-fu: is anything better?
[02:02] <polpak> RemyLaptop, works great with wine
[02:02] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:can u decipher what i get if i put it on pastebin?
[02:02] <IamEthos> I'm not sure what to look for in these things?
[02:02] <RemyLaptop> cool
[02:02] <dj-fu> IamEthos, gnome, kde?
[02:02] <dj-fu> those are the major ones
[02:02] <RemyLaptop> if I get really desperate I'll go find it :)
[02:02] <dj-fu> even xfce4
[02:02] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, yeah go for it
[02:02] <rebelguys6> well maybe :)
[02:03] <IamEthos> how does kde stackup to gnome?
[02:03] <dj-fu> I like Gnome, the localisation support is excellent
[02:03] <rishi> i like gnome
[02:03] <dj-fu> Personal opinion, IamEthos - both do nearly the same thing
[02:03] <rebelguys6> http://www.google.com/search?q=kde+vs+gnome
[02:03] <rishi> haha
[02:03] <IamEthos> isn't Kubuntu just a KDE-default Ubuntu?
[02:03] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: thanks for your help anyways ;)
[02:03] <IamEthos> or am I confused...
[02:03] <rebelguys6> IamEthos, yes
[02:03] <polpak> IamEthos, yes it is
[02:04] <IamEthos> do I need to install that to use kde?
[02:04] <rishi> Does anyone know if easy ubuntu will work with Dapper?
[02:04] <rebelguys6> IamEthos, no
[02:04] <patrick52222> no problem i hope you get it sorted
[02:04] <rishi> i asked the other channel but no one is answering
[02:04] <niki> hi, i got sound working in almost every game, but not in chromium.....i pasted my chromium config file, can someone look at it and tell me if i need to change something?  its pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10940
[02:04] <rebelguys6> !tell IamEthos about kde
[02:04] <RemyLaptop> is there any way to check the video specs of my laptop ?
[02:04] <rebelguys6> :D
[02:04] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10941
[02:04] <dj-fu> http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=kde&word2=gnome
[02:04] <dj-fu> ;'(
[02:04] <dj-fu> kde wins ;'(
[02:04] <RemyLaptop> something like the "system" window in windows?
[02:04] <patrick52222> but you should trie the #ubuntu+1 channel they might be able to help
[02:04] <IamEthos> can both be installed at the same time?
[02:04] <VRWarper> of course kde wins ;)
[02:04] <IamEthos> and just used seperately?
[02:04] <rebelguys6> yes IamEthos
[02:04] <djk_> dj-fu: the better always wins.
[02:05] <dj-fu> djk_, get stuffed ;P
[02:05] <rebelguys6> yeah you choose which one you want when you login
[02:05] <djk_> dj-fu: even wmii owns gnome ;)
[02:05] <rishi> RemyLaptop: try the device manager under system
[02:05] <IamEthos> aah
[02:05] <jadaz87> hello everyone i had a question about the w32 codecs i was wondering hwo do i install them
[02:05] <dj-fu> more hits on google = more people complaining, and I quote, "omg, kde is so buggy and sucky"
[02:05] <IamEthos> I have Linux installed on a 5gb drive
[02:05] <VRWarper> or more people praising
[02:05] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20,does your drive use an external power adapter?
[02:05] <VRWarper> :] 
[02:05] <VRWarper> or more people posting about new features
[02:05] <IamEthos> is adding both to play around with for a bit going to cause problems?
[02:06] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:yes
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> can anyone help me out with getting synaptic to work
[02:06] <VRWarper> sure kde may not be as rock solid as gnome
[02:06] <VRWarper> but then again..
[02:06] <VRWarper> im using xgl and compiz
[02:06] <dj-fu> synaptic works out of the box
[02:06] <dj-fu> ;P
[02:06] <VRWarper> so...
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> no
[02:06] <djk_> VRWarper: most likely. what would there be to post about gnome ;)
[02:06] <dj-fu> *cough* kde-window-decorator
[02:06] <VRWarper> stability isnt exactly on my... top prority list
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> I'm having repositories problems
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> did they change or something?
[02:06] <IamEthos> and will I need to reinstall software (or install new software to work with KDE?)
[02:06] <void^> i have 2 small external power supplies for harddisks, and they're both crap. :)
[02:06] <VRWarper> bah, thats only because the guy at novell uses gnome
[02:06] <VRWarper> >:|
[02:06] <polpak> SpecialBuddy, define "problems"
[02:06] <VRWarper> look at composite
[02:06] <dj-fu> VRWarper, what's because it's better :p
[02:07] <VRWarper> kde has a rock solid composite manager
[02:07] <VRWarper> and what does gnome have?
[02:07] <dj-fu> #ubuntu-offtopic to continue this discussion
[02:07] <SpecialBuddy> well it's not accepting what I have so is there an example somewhere that I can copy
[02:07] <polpak> IamEthos, you don't need to reinstall anything, gnome apps work in kde, and kde apps work in gnome
[02:07] <polpak> !sources
[02:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:07] <dj-fu> !easysource is good
[02:07] <ubotu> ...but easysource is already something else...
[02:07] <dj-fu> ;[
[02:07] <IamEthos> I see
[02:08] <IamEthos> sorry about all of these trivial questions
[02:08] <polpak> IamEthos, I'm more sorry for the trivial answers.. ;p
[02:08] <CSWookie> Does the ubuntu live CD come with Gnucash?
[02:08] <ifr> dj-fu, one more question before I do this: does running  sudo dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.10-custom_10.00.Custom_i386.deb automatically update grub so I can reboot and select the standard or custom kernel - provided I don't remove the original?
[02:08] <IamEthos> I'm considering switching to linux on a more permanent basis
[02:08] <jadaz87> does anyone know how to install the w32 codex so i can play the nonfree codec formats?
[02:08] <BlueHeron> !ati
[02:08] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:08] <IamEthos> and I want to know everything I need to before I make a decision
[02:08] <ifr> IamEthos good on ya
[02:08] <dj-fu> ifr, Not sure - You may want to rerun grub-install
[02:08] <IamEthos> how about Pocket PC support?
[02:08] <dj-fu> dj-fu, and/or manually edit the grub file - I hope it would configure it automagically, though
[02:08] <ifr> thanks, is that just sudo grub-install ?
[02:09] <polpak> IamEthos, I made the switch 6 months ago.. Haven't looked back
[02:09] <IamEthos> does it exist?
[02:09] <dj-fu> ifr, yes
[02:09] <tristil> Anyone tracking Dapper have really diminished sound output?
[02:09] <dj-fu> pocket pc works
[02:09] <jadaz87> dj-fu how do you get Pocket PC to work on ubuntu?
[02:10] <sredna|konversat> not working
[02:10] <dj-fu> well, works on dapper ;[
[02:10] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, well, i don't know for sure
[02:10] <dj-fu> my palm works anyway
[02:10] <rishi> tristil: i don't think i have any problems with sound
[02:11] <SpecialBuddy> Is dapper drake coming out soon
[02:11] <polpak> !dapper
[02:11] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[02:11] <patrick52222> june
[02:11] <jadaz87> dj-fu whould you be able to tell me how to install the w32 codecs so i can play non free formats on ubuntu?
[02:11] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, it maybe that your drive doesn't have complete linux support
[02:11] <polpak> !tell jadaz87 about restricted
[02:11] <patrick52222> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:11] <MrRio> anyone got a usb headset?
[02:11] <tristil> rishi, It started after last reboot. Well, I'll reboot and see if it's a fluke.
[02:11] <dj-fu> jadaz87, if you read that link that patrick52222 just posted, it details how to do it
[02:11] <tristanmike> MrRio: I got a PS2 usb headset that works fine
[02:11] <XVampireX> Mission Impossible
[02:12] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:lovely.....
[02:12] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, its a SATA drive in an external enclosure... right?
[02:12] <MrRio> tristanmike: know anywhere i can find a list of headsets supported under ubuntu/linux
[02:12] <ifr> Great. dj-fu, Manually, I'll be editing /boot/grub/menu.lst to see if it's in? Anm I looking in the automaiz section?>I guess I mean< how can I be sure that my custom will appear as an option in grub manually before rebooting?
[02:12] <tristanmike> MrRio: i have no idea, it took me a bit to set it up here with teamspeak
[02:13] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:no its a western digital mybook essential ehd
[02:13] <Sergi0> XVampireX, u got any step ahead?
[02:13] <tristanmike> MrRio: what are you trying to use it with ?
[02:13] <XVampireX> Sergi0, nope
[02:13] <ifr> dj-fu sorry: s/automaiz/automagic
[02:13] <BlueHeron> !ati
[02:13] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:13] <dj-fu> ifr, just search down for kernel lines, you should be able to see it, alternatively check your /boot folder for the image names etc and check if they appear in the menu
[02:13] <MrRio> tristanmike: ekiga
[02:13] <XVampireX> I tried everything
[02:13] <ifr> Ahhh.
[02:13] <Leotoothpick> hey anybody can gimme a hand here everytime i open synaptic i get this warning:
[02:13] <Leotoothpick>  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:13] <Leotoothpick> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:13] <ifr> Gotchya. Thanks!
[02:13] <MrRio> tristanmike: aka. GnomeMeeting
[02:14] <XVampireX> I posted on the forums
[02:15] <patrick52222> leotoothpick: iv you post it on here we can see it more clearly http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:15] <tristanmike> MrRio: hmm, I had to change my settings to use /dev/dsp1
[02:15] <XVampireX> I posted some more info on the forum
[02:15] <Toma-> patrick52222: flooded off. lawl!
[02:15] <aduckie> lollolol
[02:15] <XVampireX> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151363
[02:15] <RemyLaptop> Guys, I've just installed new drivers for my intel chipset, how do I install them ?
[02:15] <MrRio> tristanmike: i havn't bought a headset yet, was looking for a way to save myself some pain and get the right one
[02:15] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, well, i'm sorry, i don't know for sure
[02:16] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: you just did. :D
[02:16] <XVampireX> :P
[02:16] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, you may want to try again when dapper comes out :/
[02:16] <RemyLaptop> rofl
[02:16] <RemyLaptop> make that "downloaded"
[02:16] <RemyLaptop> :D
[02:16] <Toma-> ahh ok :)
[02:16] <revolutionary> hey
[02:16] <j2daosh> anyone in here know how to encode a movie file from .ogm to .iso?
[02:17] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: if i were you, id get ndisgtk. its an awesome frontend to ndiswrapper that makes loading/swaping drivers a snap
[02:17] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:yah too bad thats a couple months away
[02:17] <tristanmike> MrRio: oh, I would think they should pretty much work, it's just a simple mic and speaker in one, mine is for the PS2 and it works
[02:17] <Toma-> j2daosh: iso isnt a video format
[02:17] <Toma-> j2daosh: you want a vcd or dvd?
[02:17] <j2daosh> i want to burn it to a dvd from .ogm
[02:17] <biovore> iso is a filesystem
[02:17] <nickrud> Leotoothpick, welcome back, and try hitting the reload button on synaptic as a first step :)
[02:17] <RemyLaptop> Toma, I've installed it, how do i run it?
[02:17] <revolutionary> anyone know how to grab(capture) the audio of a streaming realplayer file? do i just need to use jack and a recorder like audacity or gnome sound recorder?
[02:18] <RemyLaptop> ls
[02:18] <corvax> xvampirex ypu cant eject the cd?
[02:18] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:18] <RemyLaptop> Toma, what do those commands do ?
[02:18] <corvax> did i read that correctly?
[02:18] <Toma-> j2daosh: youll need a dvdauthoring program like qdvdauthor
[02:18] <XVampireX> corvax: No
[02:18] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: unloads ndiswrapper and starts it up again with the new driver
[02:18] <RemyLaptop> ahk
[02:19] <XVampireX> corvax: Yes you did read it correctly
[02:19] <corvax> why cant you eject it?
[02:19] <XVampireX> I can eject it, just not during the setup
[02:19] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: very good questioning the sudo commands :) something everyone should do
[02:19] <RemyLaptop> Toma, I get: ERROR: Module ndiswrapper doesnot exist in /proc/modules
[02:19] <RemyLaptop> when trying to run the first one :)
[02:19] <RemyLaptop> Toma, I've buggered enough things up with random sudo commands in the past ;)
[02:20] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: ahh. did you use ndiswrapper for the drivers before?
[02:20] <XVampireX> I tried partitioning in every way, tried everything....
[02:20] <RemyLaptop> Toma, I've never installed any drivers...
[02:20] <corvax> i dont know why youd need to eject it
[02:20] <RemyLaptop> it's all running off the ubuntu defaults
[02:20] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: i c
[02:20] <Toma-> might wanna read !ndiswrapper
[02:20] <corvax> but ddid you check the cdroms md5
[02:20] <corvax> ?
[02:20] <RemyLaptop> k
[02:20] <Toma-> ubotu: tell RemyLaptop about ndiswrapper
[02:20] <amorphous_> I have a nightmare to solve - any takers?
[02:21] <kai> Can anyone help me with the installation of the new Nvidia drivers
[02:21] <rishi> !ndiswrapper
[02:21] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:21] <amorphous_> (it could be a really simple nightmare...
[02:21] <Toma-> ahhhh wait RemyLaptop. im an idiot.
[02:21] <tristanmike> !nvidia
[02:21] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:21] <XVampireX> corvax, I didn't
[02:21] <batman> anyone know if its possible to install fluxbox for the desktop environment?
[02:21] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: when you say intel chipset drivers, i assumed u ment wireless card.
[02:21] <kai> ya but the precompiled headers arnt there
[02:21] <corvax> well restart the install
[02:21] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: what are these drivers for exactly? :D
[02:21] <corvax> then  check the integrity of the disk
[02:21] <XVampireX> There was no such option for md5
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> Toma, video
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> :D
[02:22] <Prohibited> Hey, can anyone help me out.  I run a DigiChat server and some script kiddies keep flooding my chat with exploits. I need to ban a few ISP's from DigiChat's port...can anyone recommend a good firewall that will allow me to do this?
[02:22] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: ok. forget all the ndiswrapper stuff.
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> :D
[02:22] <Toma->  :|
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> it's ok
[02:22] <Toma-> hey, its 8:22am here
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> the drivers seem to come with some sort of installation...
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> I'll rofl, practically dawn !
[02:22] <Misnix> batman, fluxbox is in the repositories
[02:22] <amorphous_> Does anybody have the same problem? I have (on every ubuntu installation so far - on numerous different machines... had random (and unreadable) mouse pointers... is this common?
[02:23] <Sergi0> corvax: XvampireX has the ship-it cd, should be fine i guess
[02:23] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: youll probably need "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" to compile them
[02:23] <lwizardl> hi
[02:23] <batman> Misnix, think i could use the graphical ndiswrapper on gnome then install fluxbux and the wifi work still?
[02:23] <XVampireX> Yeah, should be fine... most likely my CDrom
[02:23] <Sergi0> could be
[02:23] <j2daosh> i got dvdauthor but it wont recognize the .ogm format... what program do i use to encode from .ogm to .mpeg/.avi?
[02:23] <Toma-> j2daosh: mencoder
[02:23] <amorphous_> anyone?
[02:24] <Toma-> j2daosh: have you installed transcode? qdvdauthor should be able to use ogm..
[02:24] <Misnix> batman,  no idea, I use utp cables :-)
[02:24] <corvax> sergio NO
[02:24] <amorphous_> am i the only person in the world that gets messed up mouse pointers????  constantly???
[02:24] <biovore> from ogm to avi?
[02:24] <biovore> why?
[02:24] <j2daosh> no i dont even know what transcode is
[02:24] <batman> Misnix, bleh i'll just attempt it i guess >.< hehe
[02:24] <corvax> ive heard alot of people whove gotten bad ship it cd's
[02:24] <amorphous_> on four/five different machines?
[02:24] <XVampireX> So what am I supposed to do?
[02:24] <amorphous_> please???
[02:24] <biovore> DVD to ogm?
[02:24] <j2daosh> because dvd author dont see .ogm files on my comp
[02:25] <j2daosh> no other way around
[02:25] <j2daosh> ogm to dvd
[02:25] <amorphous_> i've hunted it on google loads... but no joy whatsoever
[02:25] <Toma-> j2daosh: avidemux will change it
[02:25] <Toma-> its a frontend to mencoder
[02:25] <amorphous_> and am getting really pi***d off with not being able to see what I'm pointing at...
[02:25] <corvax> in the install menu
[02:25] <j2daosh> by frontend u mean graphical?
[02:25] <corvax> youll see check integrity of disk
[02:26] <corvax> choose it
[02:26] <XVampireX> I don't see that option
[02:26] <amorphous_> and it's not the best of adverts for visitors checking out my ubuntu box!
[02:26] <XVampireX> Where exactly?
[02:26] <amorphous_> anyone? please?
[02:26] <j2daosh> toma... so if i install transcode dvd author will recognize the .ogm file?
[02:26] <corvax> heh im going to have to brak out a disk to go along
[02:27] <corvax> with yA
[02:27] <XVampireX> brak?
[02:27] <Toma-> amorphous_: how do you mean "messed up"?
[02:27] <Toma-> j2daosh: lets hope so. also get mencoder
[02:27] <biovore> mencoder will do DVD to avi then you can go to mkv or ogm from there
[02:28] <corvax> or
[02:28] <biovore> works well for that
[02:28] <Toma-> j2daosh: i havent used ogm before, but since its a free format, transcode and mencoder should be able to support it
[02:28] <corvax> you can even check it from windows
[02:28] <corvax> too
[02:28] <TheFaction20> im trying to get the usb driver located here ---->http://www2.one-eyed-alien.net/~mdharm/linux-usb/    yet idk how i should go about getting it
[02:28] <Toma-> biovore: hes going from ogm to dvd.
[02:28] <amorphous_> just random graphics - loks like it could be a tyremark... there seems to be no order to it
[02:28] <amorphous_> it's just a square mess, Toma-
[02:28] <biovore> well dvd is mepg1..  the main problems is vob container
[02:28] <Toma-> amorphous_: thats just the mouse pointer?
[02:29] <polpak> wb niki
[02:29] <void^> TheFaction20: that's what the kernel uses
[02:29] <Prohibited> Hey guys, I need to ban a few ISP's (eg. shawcable) from a server a run on, does anyone know any good firewalls that can let me do this? When I was using Windows to host the server, there was a program called "BlackIce", I need a firewall like that...
[02:29] <j2daosh> so how do i do it without trouble then bio
[02:29] <j2daosh> ?
[02:29] <Toma-> biovore: hence the dvdauthor :) without it you have no menu
[02:29] <niki> polpak, thanks...check this out...when i launch chromium from term, sound works...when i launch it from gnome menu, it doesn't...what gives?
[02:29] <TheFaction20> void^:mean the kernel already has that driver?
[02:29] <Toma-> Prohibited: firestarter
[02:29] <task> help!
[02:29] <task> my cursor is gone!
[02:29] <task> :(
[02:30] <polpak> niki, check the launcher that the menu is using, what args (if any) does it pass?
[02:30] <void^> TheFaction20: not only are a few kernel devs listed on that page, it notes "The source code is provided with the standard linux kernel distribution"
[02:30] <XVampireX> corvax: check pm
[02:30] <Toma-> amorphous_: can you plz run "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[02:30] <amorphous_> yeah - only the mouse pointer, Toma-  - and sometimes it's ok in some states (ie eggtimer sometimes... standard arrow poiter other times, but always most states are just a square mess
[02:30] <Prohibited> Toma, how do I start firestarter up by SSH and add ips though?
[02:30] <niki> polpak, i'm new with gnome...how do i check?
[02:30] <task> :(
[02:30] <task> my cursor is gone!
[02:30] <TheFaction20> void^: o cuz im trying to get a mass storage device to work
[02:30] <Toma-> Prohibited: youll need X tunneling, as its a gui...
[02:31] <polpak> niki, right click and add the launcher to the desktop
[02:31] <void^> TheFaction20: try rmmod ehci-hcd, see if it works better (just slow)
[02:31] <Kritical> With a proxy server... is the client computer restricted in any way?
[02:31] <Toma-> Prohibited: i dont actually use it, but its a pretty tight firewall
[02:31] <void^> TheFaction20: (disconnect before rmmod)
[02:31] <polpak> niki, then you can right click it on the desktop and go to properties
[02:31] <j2daosh> is there a graphical one?
[02:31] <Prohibited> I can't use that. (It takes up more resources, and DC + the amount of users  I get.. that will be laggy and crash DC)
[02:31] <Toma-> j2daosh: one of what?
[02:31] <polpak> niki, go to the launcher tab
[02:31] <task> is there a way for bringing back my cursor?! :(
[02:31] <niki> polpak, the command is just the same as i send from term, : chromium
[02:32] <j2daosh> encoder/decoder... i dont know what option im supposed to chose from the transcode thing
[02:32] <Toma-> Prohibited: well you can add iptables settings from command line... the kernel has a builtin firewall called iptables
[02:32] <corvax> press f1
[02:32] <niki> polpak, could it be the permissions?
[02:32] <Toma-> j2daosh: qdvdauthor has it built in
[02:32] <niki> polpak, nevermind...just checked, its not :P
[02:32] <Toma-> !iptables
[02:32] <polpak> hrm... it could be, but in both cases it'd be running as your user
[02:32] <Prohibited> Okay thanks. :-)
[02:32] <TheFaction20> void^:it says its not permitted
[02:32] <amorphous_> Toma-, (EE) MGA: Failed to load module "mga_hal" (module does not exist. 0)
[02:32] <void^> TheFaction20: ... add a sudo before the command
[02:32] <j2daosh> but dvd author dont recognize .ogm files..... thats what i need to change the movie from
[02:33] <Toma-> amorphous_: interesting...
[02:33] <void^> mga_hal is required for 3d accel only, provided with matrox' binary drivers
[02:33] <amorphous_> Toma-, yeah
[02:33] <amorphous_> ?
[02:33] <PuMp> hi everyone
[02:33] <amorphous_> could this be another shipping issue?
[02:33] <TheFaction20> void^:nothing....
[02:33] <polpak> niki, it must be something with your environment variables or some such
[02:34] <PuMp> it's me again
[02:34] <amorphous_> I've installed on a few machines, Toma-
[02:34] <void^> TheFaction20: now connect the device and see what it does.
[02:34] <Toma-> amorphous_: possibly a bad install of the mouse graphic
[02:34] <Toma-> amorphous_: same media?
[02:34] <niki> polpak, any idea what i should read or look at?
[02:34] <amorphous_> Toma-, on 5 separate machines?
[02:34] <polpak> niki, as a workaround you could make a bash script in your ~/bin directory that just runs the chromium command, then point the launcher at that
[02:34] <PuMp> I've installed flight 5, but i have a problem with the screen resolution
[02:34] <niki> polpak, i've never written a script before...
[02:35] <amorphous_> 4 from a hoary shipped disk, but the latest from a d/loaded breezy disk????
[02:35] <Toma-> !find ogmtools
[02:35] <polpak> niki, I'll pastebin it for you
[02:35] <ubotu> ogmtools: (Tools for manipulating Ogg multimedia streams), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:1.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 160 kB, Installed size: 468 kB
[02:35] <amorphous_> Toma-, 4 from a hoary shipped disk, but the latest from a d/loaded breezy disk????
[02:35] <jd_> re. lirc sous dapper, a parle  quelqu'un ?
[02:35] <Toma-> j2daosh: there you go
[02:35] <Toma-> grab that package
[02:35] <niki> polpak, thanks!
[02:35] <Toma-> amorphous_: all different installs?!
[02:35] <XVampireX> Here's another person having the same problems
[02:35] <XVampireX> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initrd-tools/+bug/31627
[02:35] <amorphous_> Toma-, any idea how I load them up? it's not a file i can apt-get :(
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, yes!
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, that's why I'm so stumped with it
[02:36] <lampshade> I recently uninstalled laptop-mode and installed laptop-mode-tools in an attempt at getting better power management, well, in the process I took out my ability to hibernate, etc, does anyone know what package I need to reinstall that laptop-mode took with it so I can get hibernation back?  Is anyone with a laptop here brave enough to apt-get remove laptop-mode but then just cancel it but give me the names of the packages it will also be
[02:36] <lampshade>  removing?
[02:36] <amorphous_> I've upgraded aswell
[02:36] <Toma-> amorphous_: are all these machines equipped with a matrox card?
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, and different machines
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, yes
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, i think they have been
[02:36] <polpak> niki, http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=626127, save that as something like start_chromium.sh
[02:36] <corvax> its eaither a bad cd or a bad cdrom
[02:37] <PuMp> I've just installed flight 5, on the gnome panel i can only select 1280*1024, though i selected other modes on the xorg.conf. Any idea?
[02:37] <Toma-> amorphous_: i dare say there is the achilles heel of the problem...
[02:37] <amorphous_> Toma-, impressive shot!!!!
[02:37] <corvax> we want to find out
[02:37] <JayBachatero> Hello.
[02:37] <Toma-> amorphous_: lets see what google has to say. brb
[02:37] <amorphous_> tom - i felt the rush of success as it came up on my screen...
[02:37] <TheFaction20> void^:nothing
[02:37] <corvax> xvampirex what os are you in right now
[02:37] <XVampireX> Another one: http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2005/10/msg00035.html
[02:38] <XVampireX> Live CD ubuntu
[02:38] <JayBachatero> I tried to install Fedora Core 5 and it messed up my GRUB.
[02:38] <corvax> ah
[02:38] <corvax> ok
[02:38] <PuMp> this is ubuntu support
[02:38] <void^> TheFaction20: similar errors in dmesg?
[02:38] <TheFaction20> void^:actually says ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo rmmod ehci-hcd
[02:38] <TheFaction20> ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules
[02:38] <JayBachatero> I know it's Ubuntu.
[02:38] <JayBachatero> I want my Ubuntu back.
[02:38] <XVampireX> so what am I supposed to do?!
[02:39] <JayBachatero> I checked everything and all my Ubuntu stuff is there.
[02:39] <Toma-> amorphous_: using pastebin, can you put up a copy of your xorg.conf file?
[02:39] <Toma-> ubotu tell amorphous_ about pastebin
[02:39] <ifr> anyone know where I can get Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?
[02:39] <PuMp> what problem does amorphous_ have?
[02:39] <ian_> !format
[02:39] <ubotu> ian_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:39] <ian_> !formatting
[02:39] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ian_
[02:40] <polpak> niki, then put it in your bin directory under home and chmod +x the file
[02:40] <ifr> !kernel
[02:40] <lampshade> Any brave souls?
[02:40] <Toma-> PuMp: mouse pointer is garbage. suspect it is the video driver as hes installed on all sorts of different machines but theyve all got matrox's
[02:40] <ifr> Where I can get Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?
[02:40] <ian_> Anyone able to walk me through formatting my second HD (which has XP on it)?  I want to be rid of XP permanently...
[02:40] <Leotoothpick> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:40] <polpak> niki, then you can change your launcher using the Applications->System Tools->Applications Menu Editor
[02:40] <Leotoothpick> anybody know why i keep getting this warning
[02:40] <Leotoothpick> after i open synaptic
[02:41] <liable> Leotoothpick: run update again
[02:41] <TheFaction20> void^:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10943
[02:41] <Toma-> ian_: do you know what /dev entry it has?
[02:41] <useruser> ian_: do you know the device name
[02:41] <niki> polpak, doing all that now :)
[02:41] <TheFaction20> void^:its what i get under usb when i do dmesg
[02:41] <ifr> Leotoothpick because the listing in /etc/apt/sources.list needs to be checked for typos then run sudo apt-get update
[02:41] <LinuxJones> Anybody know offhand how to get spell checking working in gnome apps by default ?
[02:41] <ian_> Toma- and useruser: You mean like "Maxtor Blah Blah"?
[02:41] <ifr> Going thrice: Where I can get Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?
[02:41] <PuMp> I have a problem with the screen resolution and gnome
[02:41] <niki> polpak, didn't work :(
[02:42] <Toma-> ian_: no, like /dev/hdb
[02:42] <PuMp> can anybody please help me?
[02:42] <useruser> ian_: no, like in the output of the command dmesg|grep hd[a-f] 
[02:42] <niki> polpak, still no sound
[02:42] <soundmaster80> i have a network question
[02:42] <ifr> PuMp what is the problem?
[02:42] <PuMp> i can only select 1280x1024
[02:42] <polpak> niki, that is most peculiar.. but you say it does work when you run it from a terminal?
[02:42] <liable> !packages
[02:42] <ubotu> [packages]  You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com .  It also has a nifty file search feature.
[02:42] <PuMp> though i add several modes in the xorg.conf
[02:42] <liable> ifr: ^^
[02:42] <ifr> You want higher or lowes?
[02:42] <Toma-> ubotu tell PuMp about fixres
[02:42] <corvax> vampire  i think its under f1
[02:42] <PuMp> lowe
[02:42] <soundmaster80> i have dual nics on my motherboard, both are enabled with dhcp...can this cause problems browsing the internet?
[02:42] <corvax> when you boot
[02:42] <ian_> Toma- I'm a total n00b.  I do have an icon for it in Place> Computer....I think.
[02:42] <corvax> there are more options
[02:43] <niki> polpak, yeah...i just double checked to make sure, sound still works fine if i run it from term
[02:43] <Toma-> ian_: whats the icon called?
[02:43] <corvax> and one is to check disk
[02:43] <touji> does ne1 know a gif making program?
[02:43] <touji> for linux
[02:43] <polpak> niki, I've never heard of that before
[02:43] <JayBachatero> I tried to install Fedora Core 5 and it messed up my GRUB.  I had Ubuntu 5.10 to start with but now Ubuntu is not on the list.  I tried editing FC5's grub to load Ubuntu but it wont load.  I tried grub-install /dev/hda but didn't fix the partitions.
[02:43] <useruser> touji: doesn't the gimp do it nowadays?
[02:43] <void^> TheFaction20: ok, it seems it's not a problem with the usb driver.. does the device usually work, on windows or other pcs?
[02:43] <ian_> Toma- Floppy1...
[02:43] <PuMp> when it loads it uses 1280x1024 too
[02:43] <Toma-> touji: gimp is a fully featured one...
[02:43] <nickrud> LinuxJones, I think it's gnome-spell
[02:43] <XVampireX> I checked under f1, there was only help index
[02:43] <Toma-> ian_: thats not the windows drive.
[02:43] <ifr> PuMp you need to look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and search for the monitor section; there you will find resolution settings. If it doesn't have lower resolutions you can re-run the xorg config script....one sec
[02:44] <useruser> ian_: load a terminal and type dmesg|grep hd[a-f]  into it and press enter
[02:44] <PuMp> i did that already
[02:44] <corvax> yes
[02:44] <touji> ill look around gimp for a while
[02:44] <TheFaction20> void^:yes it does work fine on windows
[02:44] <PuMp> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:44] <ian_> useruser- Ok, hold on a sec, plz.
[02:44] <corvax> it tells you what to inter
[02:44] <corvax> enter
[02:44] <corvax> ugh ill have to find the command
[02:44] <XVampireX> ok
[02:44] <XVampireX> But how would it help me?
[02:44] <jilocasin> evening all
[02:44] <LinuxJones> nickrud: yeah it's installed but I don't know how to enable it :D
[02:45] <jilocasin> can anyone point me in the correct direction to securely delete files in linux?
[02:45] <void^> TheFaction20: did you actually power off the device before the last test?
[02:45] <XVampireX> I'll try it again and I'll be right back unless it somehow performs a miracle and it starts working
[02:45] <useruser> jilocasin: try shred
[02:45] <XVampireX> brb
[02:45] <ifr> That;s it PuMp
[02:45] <TheFaction20> void^:yes
[02:45] <amorphous_> Toma-, pasted - under amorphous
[02:45] <ifr> It didn't take?
[02:45] <useruser> jilocasin: although the standard response is to vaporize the hard disk drive :)
[02:45] <ian_> useruser- No resonse.  Just an identicle command line opening below it.
[02:45] <nickrud> LinuxJones, I think you need to do it on a per app basis, and while you're at it, how about a plugin for xchat :)
[02:46] <useruser> ian_: hmm, you typed that exactly as I had it?
[02:46] <amorphous_> Toma-, sorry about the delay - I not too good with all this - and my pointer is hardly visible at the mo... :(
[02:46] <useruser> ian_: can you copy and paste the command you typed?
[02:46] <ifr> Sorry about this: dumb question PuMp, are you trying to set the res at Systenm -Admin - Screen resolution/
[02:46] <ian_> useruser- I copied and pasted it directly.
[02:46] <void^> TheFaction20: strange - i'd try with a different kernel version, they've messed around with the usb code a lot recently.. but i can't tell you how to do that on ubuntu
[02:46] <useruser> ian_: ok, that's odd
[02:46] <Toma-> np
[02:46] <lampshade> Hey,  I was trying to tweak out battery stuff on my laptop, so I uninstalled laptop-mode and then installed laptop-mode-tools, however when I did I lost Hibernate, Suspend, etc from the logout menu.  What do I need to install to get them back?
[02:46] <PuMp> yes ifr, but it's the same
[02:46] <touji> okay i cant find something that makes gifs in gimp
[02:46] <PuMp> i can only chose one resolution
[02:46] <jilocasin> useruser shred does not work with journalled filesystems.
[02:46] <PuMp> *choose
[02:46] <ifr> Bummer. Did you look in the xor.conf file for those other resolution values?
[02:46] <useruser> jilocasin: ok
[02:47] <useruser> ian_: try this instead: grep 'hd[a-f] ' /var/log/syslog
[02:47] <liable> touji: of course it makes gifs.. just make it, save it as foo.gif...
[02:47] <LinuxJones> nickrud: I had fedora core 5 installed for 5 minutes before re-installing Ubuntu. It was setup as default in all gnome apps including Gnome-Xchat. It was spectacular, something Ubuntu ought to consider as a default.
[02:47] <Leotoothpick> thanx guys
[02:47] <PuMp> yes
[02:47] <PuMp> want to have a look at my xorg.conf?
[02:47] <TheFaction20> void^:any direction you can point me in to look for an answer?
[02:47] <ifr> Someone more skilled than I do will certainly want a look at the monitor section. You should put it into a pastebin and come back and ask again.
[02:48] <soundmaster80> my apologies for bothering everyone. could someone help me with my question again?
[02:48] <soundmaster80> i have dual nics on my motherboard, both are enabled with dhcp...can this cause problems browsing the internet?
[02:48] <ian_> useruser: Again, no response.  Jsut the same prompt line as before...
[02:48] <ifr> And Now my question again: where can I download Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?
[02:48] <crimsun> ifr: linux-tree-2.6.10
[02:48] <useruser> ian_: ok. you said it was a maxtor?
[02:48] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?
[02:48] <void^> TheFaction20: sorry, no further ideas.
[02:48] <useruser> ian_: try dmesg|grep -i maxtor
[02:48] <liable> soundmaster80: yes, why are both configured? your kernel will be trying to route through both.
[02:48] <soundmaster80> thank you liable
[02:48] <purple^haze> anybody know any good newsgroups client ?
[02:48] <soundmaster80> well, one was up for vmware
[02:48] <crimsun> purple^haze: Pan
[02:48] <nickrud> LinuxJones, amazing. I've only seen it used in evolution & gedit before. Maybe I'll give gnome-xchat another look
[02:49] <purple^haze> crimsun,  thank u
[02:49] <ifr> crimsun that you!!
[02:49] <ifr> THANK YOU I mean
[02:49] <ian_> useruser: I -think-
[02:49] <soundmaster80> that's what dawned on me today...I've been having problems, i just wanted to nail that as the cause
[02:49] <Toma-> amorphous_: problem solved i think.... mga driver doesnt like alpha cursors, and the ubuntu default is alpha... lets get a new cursor theme to test... hang tight
[02:49] <useruser> ian_: alright, another strategy
[02:49] <ian_> useruser: Samsame.
[02:49] <useruser> ian_: ls /proc/ide
[02:49] <liable> soundmaster80: check the output of 'route' if you see to UG then thats your problem
[02:49] <PuMp> now that i see the gnome panel again it just let me choose 60hz, and i configured the xorg.conf with higher values
[02:49] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:49] <amorphous_> Toma-, i shall be a model hanger...!
[02:50] <liable> two
[02:50] <LinuxJones> nickrud: it was putting the red line under the misspelled words, right click and select the correct spelling. I have to get this working for xchat if nothing else. My typing skills are so bad :)
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> I need some help installing a KDM theme.  How's that work?
[02:50] <lampshade> soundmaster80, you should be able to see in /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the card you don't want to auto start up
[02:50] <touji> ne1 know where i can get the gimp help files?
[02:50] <ian_> useruser: New response.... "hda  hdb  hdc  hdd  ide0  ide1
[02:50] <ian_> "
[02:50] <Toma-> !info gcursor
[02:50] <ubotu> gcursor: (gnome cursor theme managing software), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.061-ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 152 kB
[02:50] <soundmaster80> yeah, i did that and things are working solid again....it was driving me nuts
[02:50] <useruser> ian_: good. it's going to be one of those :)
[02:50] <Toma-> grab that package amorphous_
[02:50] <_jason> touji: apt-cache search gimp help
[02:50] <soundmaster80> i just wanted someone smarter than me to verify it :-)
[02:50] <purple^haze> crimsun,  is it a gui ?
[02:51] <purple^haze> it is!
[02:51] <lampshade> anyone with a laptop with hibernation?
[02:51] <ian_> useruser <nods>
[02:51] <taotime> hi folks i need help with a non ubuntu problem.
[02:51] <amorphous_> Toma-,  !info gcursor? apt-get it?
[02:51] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:51] <PuMp> how can i do to choose 1024x768?
[02:51] <Toma-> amorphous_: you bet. 'sudo apt-get install gcursor'
[02:51] <PuMp> i hate this resolution
[02:51] <soundmaster80> thank you all for your help, have a great night or day where ever you are :)
[02:51] <useruser> ian_: find /proc/ide/ -name model -exec cat {} ';'
[02:51] <NeighborhoodNer1> touji: apt-get install gimp-help-en
[02:52] <useruser> ian_: oh, wait
[02:52] <Marcin_> Evening. Seeking help with WPA with wpa_supplicant.
[02:52] <amorphous_> Toma-, on it's way... ;)
[02:52] <PuMp> somebody can help me please?
[02:52] <useruser> ian_: find /proc/ide/ -name model -ls -exec cat {} ';'
[02:52] <PuMp> if you want to take a look to my xorg.conf i'll pastebin it
[02:52] <Toma-> PuMp: did you read the fixres i showed you?
[02:52] <taotime> does anybody know how to email to a cell phone?
[02:53] <lampshade> If anyone has a laptop, and would like to apt-get remove laptop-mode, but not actually uninstall it and just tell me what packages it wants to remove, that would be awesome.  I removed them at one time and now I need them back for hibernation support
[02:53] <amorphous_> Toma-, mbox seems to be the only theme avail - i try that?
[02:53] <PuMp> but they are for hoary, aren't they?
[02:53] <useruser> ian_: look for your hard disk model. the device should be the hda/hdb/hdc/hdd bit in the previous line
[02:53] <Toma-> amorphous_: try anything
[02:53] <ian_> useruser Ok, that listed every type of drive I have.  It's either my Maxtor or My Quantum Bigfoot.
[02:53] <nismo> I seem to have a problem with Firefox and amarok, if i have both of these programs running, one of the usually shuts down, this happens once every 10-20 mintues and its quite annoying, any1 have any ideas?
[02:53] <lampshade> Marcin_, I'm using it right now, I might be some help but I'm usually not much
[02:53] <amorphous_> Toma-, i am - trust me!
[02:53] <useruser> ian_: you don't know which one you want to nuke?
[02:54] <Marcin_> lampshade: I'll take any help I can get :) Did you go by this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto or some other source?
[02:54] <ian_> useruser I have no idea which of the two it is that's got XP on it without switching over to XP and checking.
[02:54] <useruser> ian_: heh
[02:54] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:54] <PuMp> Toma- Aren't thoses fixes for hoary?
[02:54] <Toma-> PuMp: nope
[02:54] <PuMp> it says This Howto is intended for those who have installed or upgraded to Hoary,
[02:54] <nismo> ?! :(
[02:54] <nismo> I seem to have a problem with Firefox and amarok, if i have both of these programs running, one of the usually shuts down, this happens once every 10-20 mintues and its quite annoying, any1 have any ideas?
[02:54] <useruser> ian_: ok, type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-d] 
[02:54] <Toma-> PuMp: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will fix up your problem
[02:54] <ian_> useruser Sorry, just switched to Linux 3 days ago...I could easilly perform this in Windows, but I'm having to relearn in this vastly superior OS. ;)
[02:54] <majd> Hey, this is awkward, i have a link in my menu that runs cd /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudioClient-5.1.0/bin && sudo ./ZDE     but the terminal pops up for a second and then disapears...then when i copy the command and paste it, it works
[02:54] <PuMp> i have tried that
[02:55] <useruser> ian_: if only one of them has ntfs or other windowsy partitions on it, then that's the one you want
[02:55] <Toma-> PuMp: tried hitting ctl-alt-+ or - on the keypad?
[02:55] <useruser> ian_: nah, that's ok
[02:55] <PuMp> nothing happens
[02:55] <useruser> ian_: note: be careful to get that command exactly right!
[02:55] <useruser> ian_: fdisk is a scarily powerful beast
[02:56] <Toma-> PuMp: how odd. a copy of xorg.conf and 'tail -50 /var/log/Xorg.0.log' on pastebin
[02:56] <Toma-> plz!
[02:56] <ian_> useruser I'm copying directly so as to avoid accidents. ;) I believe, based on that last response, it's hdb2
[02:56] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:56] <useruser> ian_: ok, just one partition then? not the whole of /dev/hdb?
[02:56] <ian_> useruser Which reads: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-d] 
[02:56] <ian_> useruser Eek.  Opps.
[02:56] <Marcin_> lampshade: I guess more speciically, how di dyou find out what your network driver is? Or did you install a new one? And if so...how do I do it? :D
[02:56] <lampshade> Marcin_, somewhere else, but I still might be able to help you.  Some of the biggest pitfalls that I ran into some stuff along the way.  I use WPA with Intel Centrino on my laptop so I followed the guide in the forums, but even with that there was some minor glitches I had to overcome
[02:57] <ian_> useruser It reads: /dev/hdb2              32        1057     8241345    5  Extended
[02:57] <useruser> ian_: what else does it say is on /dev/hdb?
[02:57] <Toma-> useruser: might have been quicker to 'cat /etc/fstab | grep windows' or something :)
[02:57] <Marcin_> lampshade: guide in the forums? Link?
[02:57] <ian_> useruser the others read Linux or Linux DVM.
[02:57] <PuMp> ok, Toma-
[02:57] <useruser> Toma-: yeah, probably :) i don't know my way around ubuntu so well yet
[02:57] <useruser> ian_: ok, you probably want to keep that one then
[02:57] <lampshade> Marcin_, the network driver is whatever yoru card is using, do you have wireles in a non encrypted area even?  The guide was for Intel Centrino, I think but yeah I'll see if I can find it.
[02:58] <Toma-> ian_: can you put a copy of fstab on pastebin?
[02:58] <PuMp> here is my xorg.conf Toma-
[02:58] <PuMp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10945
[02:58] <fortunato> hello
[02:58] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:58] <Marcin_> lampshade: the wpa_supplicant thing only lists like uh, 6 drivers. I have a Belkin card, and Ubuntu just autodetected it. I didn't have to do anything so I'm not sure what the driver is :D
[02:59] <lampshade> Marcin_, this one is what I used.  Got me going very nicely once I stopped making typos and shit
[02:59] <ifr> Okay I asked this before but now I am asking again specifically: KERNEL CONFIG QUESTION:  I downloaded the source tree for the kernel.  I am going to do make oldconfig to get me halfway there. BEFORE I do make oldconfig should I apply the patch by doing p0 < patch-name.patch in the source directory of the kernel I'm compiling?
[02:59] <GTroy> anyone think this is a bad idea?
[02:59] <useruser> ian_: yeah, let's have a looksie at /etc/fstab on pastebin
[02:59] <GTroy> http://flavor8.com/index.php/2006/03/26/how-to-back-up-your-dvds-in-ubuntu/
[02:59] <ian_> useruser Ok, wait.  Two of the 3 listed on that last response have similar ammount of blocks.  Almost identicle.  Both my HD's are almost exactly same size.
[02:59] <useruser> ian_: it's not the number of blocks that are interesting, it's the partition types
[02:59] <fortunato> hm
[02:59] <ian_> useruser XP-drive is not partitioned.
[02:59] <lampshade> Marcin_, what type of card?
[03:00] <Toma-> PuMp: are they your monitors Hsync a Vrefresh?
[03:00] <fortunato> yay
[03:00] <nickrud> LinuxJones, it seems that libsexy is what gives spell checking to xchat-gnome
[03:00] <useruser> ian_: what does df / say?
[03:00] <useruser> ian_: that'll be a partition you want to keep :)
[03:00] <PuMp> yes
[03:00] <ian_> useruser DF?
[03:00] <PuMp> and in the panel it just let me choose 65hz
[03:00] <Toma-> PuMp: having wrong values there can often lead to xorg not letting you change res, simply because it can blow your monitor
[03:00] <LinuxJones> nickrud: I a looking at that right now, it's installed by Dapper by default but into on how to enable it are rather sparse
[03:00] <useruser> ian_: yes, in lowercase (run that command)
[03:00] <fortunato> HEY! does anyone know of a program thats easy to use that can limit bandwidth over a router?
[03:00] <Marcin_> Belkin PCMCIA wireless G
[03:01] <fortunato> ive found one.. but costs. and another i dont understand.
[03:01] <chuckyp> Marcin_, what chipset is it using?
[03:01] <LinuxJones> nickrud: see why I need a spell checker :(
[03:01] <Marcin_> chuckyp: how do I tell?
[03:01] <useruser> or better still, paste the output of df -T somewhere I can take a look like pastebin
[03:01] <nickrud> LinuxJones, I wouldn't be suprised it linking was disabled in the ubuntu build. I'm in breezy at the moment, but you could get the source and look at the debian directory, see what's up
[03:01] <chuckyp> Wasn't there an issue with the broadcomm chipsets something they needed to rem out before they could just ndiswrapper
[03:01] <PuMp> Toma-, before they were both values on 60 and it was the same
[03:01] <ian_> useruser I can paste you the text, but I don't remember the url for pastebin..
[03:02] <useruser> ian_: neither do i , but i'm certain google has a pretty strong opinion on the matter
[03:02] <ian_> useruser ;)
[03:02] <CSWookie> Can someone direct me to a page on making my own ubuntu livecd?
[03:02] <nickrud> LinuxJones, into and info are equal to a spell checker ;P
[03:02] <fortunato> can
[03:02] <fortunato> someone help me find a program that can limit the bandwidth over my router?
[03:03] <chuckyp> Marcin_, I know you need to use the ndiswrapper driver's but you need to stop the default broadcomm module from loading can't remember how right now.
[03:03] <LinuxJones> nickrud: yeah well I'm on strong medication for a few more days ;(
[03:03] <PuMp> Toma- should i put smaller values?
[03:03] <Toma-> PuMp: try setting Hsync to 30-70 an Vrefresh to 50-160 then remove all the modes under the 24bit Depth section to have only "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[03:03] <ian_> useruser Ok, gimme a sec, opening pastebin now...
[03:03] <fortunato> the other computer (windows) is using all bandwidth
[03:03] <useruser> ian_: ok
[03:03] <Toma-> PuMp: thats going from the offical spec sheet of your monitor
[03:03] <PuMp> ok
[03:04] <chuckyp> fortunato, What do you want to do now?
[03:04] <fortunato> stupid gnutella clients left on.. i keep getting kicked off and having to use dhclient all too often.
[03:04] <wafei> hello
[03:04] <PuMp> i remove all the dephts, and i just leave 24?
[03:04] <Toma-> PuMp: if that doesnt fix anything, a copy of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log will be required
[03:04] <useruser> fortunato: wikipedia suggests this: http://www.mastershaper.org/tiki-index.php
[03:04] <fortunato> ok
[03:04] <fortunato> thanks
[03:04] <XVampireX> yo
[03:04] <PuMp> ok, i did that
[03:04] <lampshade> Marcin_, if your wireless works out of the box on unencrypted stuff, I would just do a dmesg | grep -i wireless and see if you can see which driver nabs it
[03:04] <XVampireX> I did the integrity check
[03:05] <Toma-> PuMp: NO. leave all the other depth sections, just change the selectable options under the 24bit section
[03:05] <PuMp> should i reboot or just with CTRL+ALT+BSPACE its ok?
[03:05] <XVampireX> It indeed is defective
[03:05] <ian_> useruser http://pastebin.com/626166
[03:05] <useruser> ian_: ok, got it
[03:05] <jepler> How does Ubuntu do with nforce chipset systems?  I'm shopping for a socket 939 system, and the majority of them seem to be nforce.  Here's one example: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=MB-BA21473
[03:05] <Toma-> PuMp: ctl-alt-bkspce
[03:05] <PuMp> ok
[03:05] <PuMp> i'll be right back
[03:05] <lampshade> mine says ipw2200 and that's what I use then with ipw in the command to get WPA working
[03:05] <XVampireX> All I can do now is get a cdr working, lol
[03:05] <useruser> ian_: ok, it's /dev/hda
[03:05] <useruser> ian_: it's got the ntfs partition on it
[03:06] <useruser> ian_: and as you say, there's just one partition on that drive
[03:06] <PuMp> same thing Toma- :S
[03:06] <ian_> useruser If you say so. ;)  You know better than I!
[03:06] <lampshade> quite frankly I hope Ubuntu Dapper has WPA support built in because otherwise that's a horrible flaw... I mean this is something that works out of the box with WIndows and OSX so yeah... I see so many people that have issues with it sigh
[03:06] <majd> Hey, this is awkward, i have a link in my menu that runs cd /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudioClient-5.1.0/bin && sudo ./ZDE     but the terminal pops up for a second and then disapears...then when i copy the command and paste it, it works
[03:06] <Marcin_> that would be nice :/
[03:06] <XVampireX> Or order some more CDs
[03:06] <PuMp> what file do you need now Toma-?
[03:06] <XVampireX> corvax, yo
[03:06] <Toma-> PuMp: if that doesnt fix anything, a copy of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log will be required
[03:06] <Marcin_> I'll brb then and change back to unencrypted to find out what the drivers are.
[03:07] <ian_> useruser Ok, now we've identified which one I want to nuke...How do I go about erasing it?
[03:07] <useruser> ian_: run cfdisk /dev/hda
[03:07] <jepler> It seems like all the nforce-related forum posts, etc, are about nforce problems -- but if not nforce, what is a good chipset for a socket 939 system?
[03:07] <Toma-> PuMp: and ctl-alt-+ doesnt change the resolution?
[03:07] <ian_> useruser Type that including "run"?
[03:07] <niki> when i run gstreamer-properties, and i click the test button on Default Source (set for ALSA), i get this error: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA-Advanced Linux Sound Architecture' ....  any ideas?
[03:07] <useruser> ian_: nah, starting with cfdisk
[03:07] <ifr> Okay I asked this before but now I am asking again specifically: KERNEL CONFIG QUESTION:  I downloaded the source tree for the kernel.  I am going to do make oldconfig to get me halfway there. BEFORE I do make oldconfig should I apply the patch by doing patch -p0 < patch-name.patch in the source directory of the kernel I'm compiling?
[03:07] <PuMp> no Toma-, it doesn't change it
[03:07] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know how I can get sshd on my computer
[03:07] <mestre> anyone portuguese?
[03:08] <Bowsa> anyone know why i cant eject my cd
[03:08] <useruser> ian_: hm, scratch that
[03:08] <_jason> !pt
[03:08] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:08] <Toma-> PuMp: ok
[03:08] <PuMp> here it is
[03:08] <PuMp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10947
[03:08] <useruser> ian_: no wait you probably to have to do that :P
[03:08] <ian_> useruser FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[03:08] <ian_>    Press any key to exit cfdisk
[03:08] <mestre> you have to make a clic on the icon and choose eject
[03:08] <Toma-> PuMp: dapper?
[03:08] <useruser> ian_: oops, run sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[03:08] <Toma-> wait...
[03:08] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know how I get sshd on my computer
[03:08] <ifr> sudo apt-get instakll open-ssh
[03:08] <Toma-> PuMp: you have xorg7.0 on breezy?!?!
[03:09] <ifr> something like that
[03:09] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[03:09] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[03:09] <Toma-> oh nah.. its dapper
[03:09] <Bowsa> anyone know why i cant open my cd drive
[03:09] <PuMp> it's dappper
[03:09] <useruser> ian_: do you want to repartition the drive, or just have one big partition still?
[03:09] <ifr> apt-cache search ssh SpecialBuddy
[03:09] <amorphous_> Toma-, this may make me sound completely useless but - where do i get more themes? i cant find any >:(
[03:09] <niki> when i run gstreamer-properties, and i click the test button on Default Source (set for ALSA), i get this error: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA-Advanced Linux Sound Architecture' ....  any ideas?
[03:09] <ian_> useruser I want XP off it and to be able to use the space for the Ubuntu I'm running now.
[03:09] <Toma-> amorphous_: www.gnome-look.org
[03:09] <useruser> ian_: ok, i guess one big partition is fine then
[03:10] <Kritical> does anyone know a program which can monitor network bandwidth on a per ip basis? also needs to give me monthly usage statistics for lan ips?
[03:10] <PuMp> It's Dapper Drake Toma-
[03:10] <ian_> useruser <nodnods>
[03:10] <Toma-> PuMp: filed a bug yet?
[03:10] <useruser> ian_: hit t and type 82 to change it to a linux partition
[03:10] <PuMp> no
[03:10] <ifr> Really, no one on this list can help with the kernel compiling problem?
[03:10] <useruser> ian_: oops, it's 83, not 82
[03:10] <jilocasin> can anyone point me in the correct direction to securely delete files in linux?
[03:10] <Syco54645> can anyone tell me how to selected a range of numbers with a case statement in bash.  i cannot find it anywhere
[03:11] <ian_> useruser I don't see an option for 83...
[03:11] <useruser> ian_: then use the right arrow key to hightlight "Write" and press enter
[03:11] <useruser> ian_: you have to press t first
[03:11] <SpecialBuddy> I have ssh but I need sshd
[03:11] <PuMp> what can I do Toma-?
[03:11] <ifr> Right, SpecialBuddy but searching for sshd will show you the name one sec
[03:11] <corvax> just use rm -rf
[03:11] <suyog> my ubuntu is very sliggish on an 800 Mhz system. how can i speed things up? any tips?
[03:11] <useruser> suyog: xubuntu?
[03:12] <Kyral> !xubuntu
[03:12] <ubotu> from memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:12] <corvax> suyog more ram
[03:12] <corvax> heh
[03:12] <ifr> SpecialBuddy, it's sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:12] <ian_> useruser I did.  82 is Linux swap/ Solaris
[03:12] <suyog> :(
[03:12] <ifr> Sorry about that
[03:12] <ifr> That will do it
[03:12] <corvax> im running dapper on a  450 mhz with 256 mb
[03:12] <useruser> ian_: yes, select 83 instead
[03:12] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[03:12] <corvax> its not THAT sluggish
[03:12] <suyog> can't i just remove some startup services to free up more ram?
[03:12] <useruser> ian_: should just say "Linux"
[03:12] <ifr> No worries
[03:13] <useruser> suyog: you can see what's eating ram with top or the system monitor (which itself sucks up insane amounts of system resources)
[03:13] <Toma-> PuMp: like is aid before, bad hsync-vrefresh rates...... which is WEIRD MAN! umm. you definitly have a SyncMaster 794MB?
[03:13] <Toma-> suyog: initng
[03:13] <NeighborhoodNer1> Kritical: ethereal might be a start .... I don't know about the monthly stats though, perhaps some perl scripts on CPAN
[03:13] <ian_> useruser Are you sure?  It says Hda1 is Linux FS...?
[03:13] <PuMp> yes
[03:13] <suyog> i'll do that, useruser. And after I find that program, how do i remove it from my startup initialization?
[03:13] <PuMp> Samsung 794MB and a Radeon 9200
[03:14] <PuMp> what refresh should i set?
[03:14] <useruser> ian_: oh, it does?
[03:14] <suyog> can i just delete things from inside /.etc/init.d/ ?
[03:14] <Toma-> PuMp: from what this log says, radeon driver is saying you cant use 1024.768
[03:14] <ian_> useruser Aye.
[03:14] <useruser> ian_: in that pastebin output, it said that /dev/hda1 is HPFS/NTFS
[03:14] <useruser> ian_: maybe you changed it already?
[03:14] <PuMp> how can that be?
[03:14] <SpecialBuddy> don't I just start sshd by going to /etc/init.d/sshd start?
[03:15] <PuMp> i can't use 1024x768 but i can use 1024x960
[03:15] <Toma-> I dare say, its a sooky driver. :)
[03:15] <lampshade> anyone with a laptop who is feeling brave who would like to help me out by doing an apt-get remove laptop-mode and then pressing N and not removing it, but tell me what packages it is going to remove with it?  I removed mine already and I need some of those packages back :-/
[03:15] <useruser> lampshade: you could run apt-get install laptop-mode and press control-c
[03:15] <PuMp> :S
[03:15] <ian_> useruser Neg.  Says Linux.
[03:15] <PuMp> another thing
[03:15] <niki> i don't know what i've done...but sudo isn't working for me now.  for instance...if i type : sudo apt-get update , it prompts me for a password...then returns me to the prompt.   help!
[03:15] <Toma-> PuMp: just a minute. file a bug in the meantime
[03:15] <useruser> ian_: ok, well it sounds like you're good to go then
[03:16] <useruser> ian_: exit cfdisk (hit q)
[03:16] <Hwyvar> so, I know it's trivial, but I'd like my xmatrix screensaver slower, and its slowest in the options. Can I add something like -speedXX in the commandline of advanced options without wrecking it? thnx in advance
[03:16] <useruser> ian_: then run mke2fs -j /dev/hda1
[03:16] <nickrud> PuMp, sudo ddcprobe should give you the monitor range at the bottom, those are the (horizsyc & vertrefresh) values you want
[03:16] <useruser> ian_: er, sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hda1
[03:16] <lampshade> useruser, no, cause it just reinstalls laptop-mode, but doesn't tell me the other things that it took out when I uninstalled it.  It will just reinstall laptop-mode and not the other packages :-/  that's my frustration
[03:16] <nickrud> PuMp, I haven't seen your xorg.conf, so if they're already there, never mind :)
[03:16] <suyog> anyone? how do i stop services from starting during bootup?
[03:16] <MarcinM> Ok, grepping DMESG for wireless returned nothing. Grepping it for my interface returned "no ipv6 routers present". Now what.....
[03:16] <useruser> ian_: that'll reformat that partition with a linux filesystem (ext3)
[03:16] <lwizardl> can someone help me with xdvdshrink
[03:16] <niki> i don't know what i've done...but sudo isn't working for me now.  for instance...if i type : sudo apt-get update , it prompts me for a password...then returns me to the prompt.   if i run sudo vi filename....it does the same thing, never opens vi.  HELP PLEASE!
[03:17] <Toma-> lwizardl: whats the problem?
[03:17] <PuMp> another thing, how do i made a ntfs partition readable for all users on dapper?
[03:17] <lwizardl> Toma-, i have the rpm used alien to generate a deb. then used the package manager to install it. but when i try and open it nothing happens
[03:17] <Toma-> suyog: remove services wont speed u up much. lookinto the program initng
[03:17] <nickrud> !tell PuMp about mountwindows
[03:18] <Toma-> PuMp: you should be asking all this in #ubuntu+1
[03:18] <lampshade> lwizardl, where did you get that?  That's not in the repo is it?
[03:18] <ian_> useruser mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[03:18] <ian_> mke2fs: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size
[03:18] <Toma-> lwizardl: you can get xdvdshrink from plf
[03:18] <Toma-> !plf
[03:18] <ubotu> [plf]  the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[03:18] <useruser> ian_: did you run it with the sudo?
[03:19] <ian_> useruser Rather, using second string it reads : er, sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hda1
[03:19] <jadaz87> hello guys what is a program that you guys whould recommend for Music TAG Editting?
[03:19] <suyog> what is program initng? how do i use it, Toma-
[03:19] <lwizardl> lampshade, i got it from their sourceforge site
[03:20] <useruser> ian_: odd
[03:20] <ian_> useruser Sorry again...One sec...
[03:20] <nickrud> jadaz87, easytag
[03:20] <Toma-> PuMp: try to not use the radeon driver and/or try changing the vsync and hsync
[03:20] <Toma-> !initng
[03:20] <ubotu> Toma-: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:20] <lampshade> Toma-, I have that in my sources, but I don't see it with a cache search.  hmm
[03:20] <niki> HELP PLEASE!  my sudo command isn't working!
[03:20] <Toma-> who keeps deleting my info bits? :(
[03:20] <ian_> useruser It reads: /dev/hda is entire device, not just one partition!
[03:20] <corvax> !bum
[03:20] <ubotu> bum is, like, totally, a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[03:20] <PuMp> if i change the drivers, i'll lose the direct rendering?
[03:20] <jadaz87> nickrud can that do mass editting?
[03:20] <ian_> useruser Using sudo.
[03:21] <ian_> !sudo
[03:21] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:21] <Toma-> lampshade: its in the dvdshrink package
[03:21] <jose> hi everybody
[03:21] <Toma-> i thinks
[03:21] <PuMp> Toma-, if i change the radeon's drivers, i'll lose the direct rendering?
[03:21] <MarcinM> Hm. So ... hm.
[03:21] <Toma-> PuMp: yes, but itll prove that its the nasty radeon or not
[03:21] <nickrud> jadaz87, I just renamed about 15gb of mp3's because the names were too long for joliet, so yes :)
[03:21] <PuMp> ok
[03:21] <niki> HELP PLEASE!  my sudo command isn't working! when i run a command with sudo, i get prompted for my password, then nothing!  the program doesn't run!  please help!
[03:21] <lwizardl> Toma-, HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[03:21] <lwizardl> 20:21:35 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[03:22] <Toma-> what the heck.
[03:22] <lampshade> Toma-, ?  DVD shrink returns no results for me?  Are there more than one PLF or something?  Just checked in my sources and I do have PLF repos in there :-/
[03:22] <_jason> niki: did you do an expert install?
[03:22] <corvax> enter your password
[03:22] <nazty> anyone know why my terminal is lacking ansi characters?
[03:22] <Amaranth> sorry
[03:22] <niki> _jason, no...and it's been working fine all day
[03:22] <corvax> lol
[03:22] <lwizardl> lampshade, xdvdshrink
[03:22] <jadaz87> nickrud HUZZAH thank you so much
[03:22] <ian_> useruser ?
[03:22] <_jason> niki: strange, what is the output of 'groups'?
[03:22] <jose> somebody knows about how to unistall ubuntu ?
[03:22] <PuMp> dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs      auto,ro,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=000,nls=utf8  0       0
[03:22] <PuMp> is that ok?
[03:22] <lampshade> I tried that too  I didn't see that in the repos either
[03:22] <niki> _jason, niki and audio
[03:22] <useruser> ian_: i don't understand that error :/
[03:23] <ian_> useruser Which one?
[03:23] <_jason> niki: this is the user you created during the install process?
[03:23] <useruser> ian_: the permission denied one
[03:23] <niki> _jason, yes
[03:23] <useruser> ian_: what does fdisk -l /dev/hda1 say?
[03:23] <nazty> test
[03:23] <_jason> niki: well somehow your user got removed from the admin group.  Users in the admin group are the only ones that can use sudo
[03:23] <useruser> ian_: erm, wrong again
[03:23] <ian_> useruser No, I messed up because I forgot to use sudo.  When I typed with sudo I got:
[03:23] <lwizardl> Toma-, can you test the link and see if it works for you?
[03:23] <niki> _jason, how can i repair this?
[03:23] <ian_> useruser mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[03:23] <ian_> /dev/hda is entire device, not just one partition!
[03:23] <ian_> Proceed anyway? (y,n)
[03:23] <useruser> ian_: oh, ok
[03:24] <Toma-> !plf
[03:24] <ubotu> it has been said that plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[03:24] <useruser> ian_: no, don't proceed :)
[03:24] <_jason> niki: did you ever set a root password by any chance?
[03:24] <ian_> useruser Sorry about the miscom.
[03:24] <useruser> ian_: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hda1
[03:24] <niki> _jason, nope, just gave the userpass that was asked for in the install
[03:24] <PuMp> dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs      auto,ro,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=000,nls=utf8  0       0 is this line ok?
[03:24] <useruser> ian_: that should do the trick - I think you missed the final 1 when copying :)
[03:24] <corvax> sudo passwd
[03:24] <Toma-> ubotu: no, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[03:24] <ubotu> okay, Toma-
[03:24] <Toma-> !plf
[03:24] <ubotu> methinks plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[03:24] <Toma-> try again
[03:24] <nazty> anyone one know how i can get ansi type characters to display?
[03:25] <brendan_> hey, can someone tell me how to install a game? like a .run file?
[03:25] <useruser> brendan_: which game?
[03:25] <Toma-> brendan_: sh nameoffile.run
[03:25] <_jason> niki: that's ok, you will have to do this: reboot and select 'recovery mode' from the grub menu.  Then when you get a root prompt, enter the command 'adduser your_normal_username admin', then reboot again and you should have sudo working again
[03:25] <brendan_> alien arena
[03:25] <nazty> anyone one know how i can get ansi type characters to dis in a terminal?!
[03:25] <ian_> useruser That looks like it is working...
[03:25] <useruser> ian_: cool
[03:25] <jadaz87> nickrud if i use easy tag to retag file whould RhythmBox update do you think?
[03:25] <useruser> nazty: which ansi characters did you have in mind?
[03:25] <ian_> useruser Reads: his filesystem will be automatically checked every 28 mounts or
[03:25] <ian_> 180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
[03:25] <nazty> ever use bitchx?
[03:26] <useruser> ian_: yeah, it's all good
[03:26] <niki> _jason, ok, will give it a shot...thanks :)
[03:26] <nazty> the ansi arts look like blocks
[03:26] <nazty> instead of characters
[03:26] <useruser> ian_: you now want to edit /etc/fstab to add your new partition to the filesystem
[03:26] <nickrud> jadaz87, good question, but I think rhythmbox notes if a music directory has changed and rereads it. I just offloaded all the music, so I can't check myself
[03:26] <useruser> ian_: run sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:26] <ian_> useruser Thanks man.  Sorry it was so hard (because I'm new).  Do you know where I'll be able to find the blank HD now?  So I can drop files into it?
[03:27] <useruser> ian_: it's not over yet :P
[03:27] <nazty> useruser:whatever it takes for bitchx to look right
[03:27] <jadaz87> nickrud oh ok i will try and see i might just have to reimport 33 hours of music oh well hahahahaha
[03:27] <useruser> nazty: bitchx? isn't that an X app?
[03:27] <davidmoore83> anyone know how to extract tar.gz files in xubuntu it doesnt seem to have a gui extract cmd
[03:27] <lampshade> Toma-, wow, I have no idea why they aren't in my repo if they are in yours, I do have the PLF in my sources and I did apt-get update, I have no idea but it doesn't show up for me in an apt-cache search at all
[03:27] <nazty> nah
[03:27] <nazty> terminal
[03:27] <ian_> useruser Oh, k, one sec..
[03:27] <useruser> nazty: oh, ok. i use irssi with xterm and things generally seem to work
[03:27] <davidmoore83> Toma-, know how to extract tar.gz files in xubuntu it doesnt seem to have a gui extract cmd
[03:27] <ian_> useruser Ok, new window (gedit) popped...
[03:28] <nazty> yeah but the ascii/ansi art looks like straight up blocks
[03:28] <jadaz87> davidmoore83 you use : "tar zxvf <nameofarchivehere>.tar.gz
[03:28] <nazty> can i send u a screenshot?
[03:28] <Jamsi> elloo llllelleloo
[03:28] <useruser> ian_: find the line for /dev/hdb1 and copy it to the end
[03:28] <nickrud> davidmoore83, applications->accessories->archive manager
[03:28] <Toma-> davidmoore83: ^^ tar -zxf filename.tar.gz
[03:28] <brendan_> ok that worked...it uncpmpress then went back to proompt?
[03:28] <Jamsi> Is it just me ... or does Ubuntu rock my socks.
[03:28] <IamEthos> how do I install stuff in Ubuntu
[03:28] <Jamsi> IamEthos, apt-get
[03:28] <IamEthos> stuff that isn't in repositories
[03:28] <Jamsi> Compile it?
[03:28] <nazty> useruser:u a screenshot?
[03:28] <corvax> your socks must be happy
[03:28] <useruser> nazty: of what? xterm?
[03:28] <Toma-> lampshade: i get it... look for dvdshrink
[03:29] <useruser> nazty: it's kinda ubiquitous
[03:29] <davidmoore83> nickrud, this is xcfe
[03:29] <Jamsi> corvax, sure are man. Installed ubuntu on a laptop and went 100% fine. No hiccups.
[03:29] <ian_> useruser /dev/hdb1       /boot           ext3    defaults        0       2
[03:29] <geargolem> how can I find out where I set my pythonpath?
[03:29] <Jamsi> corvax, more and more user friendly every day
[03:29] <ian_> useruser That one?
[03:29] <corvax> yeah
[03:29] <arrick>  do I perform a dual boot with XP PRO and ubuntu?
[03:29] <IamEthos> Jamsi: how do I compile source?
[03:29] <useruser> ian_: oops, no
[03:29] <IamEthos> is there a tutorial on this somewhere?
[03:29] <useruser> ian_: try the one for /dev/hdb5 instead
[03:29] <corvax> but now you get to fiddle with it
[03:29] <Jamsi> IamEthos, download the source file for the software (most likely .tar.gz)
[03:29] <jadaz87> !compile
[03:29] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[03:29] <davidmoore83> arrick, did i not explain that last night?
[03:29] <corvax> till it breaks :)
[03:29] <corvax> lol
[03:29] <nickrud> davidmoore83, you could install it, it's called file-roller. works in xfce I would think
[03:30] <Jamsi> IamEthos, ungzip it (ungzip filename.tar.gz), then untar it (tar xvf filename.tar) then read the install file.
[03:30] <arrick> I wasnt doing that, I was setting up a print server, so I didnt see
[03:30] <ian_> useruser Don't see it listed.
[03:30] <arrick> got a link?
[03:30] <corvax> you cant help but fiddle with stuff in linux its fun
[03:30] <IamEthos> !tell iamethos about repos
[03:30] <nickrud> IamEthos, really, really try to find a deb before compiling :)
[03:30] <cristof> Hi. I got as P-IV 3.0GHz, HT. When I put a kernel with SMP to run (even the ubunu smp kernel), the X server locks the machine. Does anyone knows how can I avoid this keeping the smp feature?
[03:30] <useruser> ian_: ok.. do you have another line starting /dev/hdb<something> ?
[03:30] <arrick> Hows it going davidmoore83
[03:30] <truz24> i have two ubuntu boxes and one windows box; from the windows box, i can ping 1 of the ubuntu boxes by hostname, and the other i cannot, what can be the cause of hostname lookup failures?
[03:30] <useruser> ian_: that's the one I'm trying to get hold of
[03:30] <lampshade> Toma-, hahah I tried that, and other permutations of the name, got no results back ??  That's really weird.  I mean I can see the plf source in my sources list
[03:31] <Abnix> anyone have a crash-course howto for setting up bind on ubuntu?
[03:31] <ian_> useruser Neg.
[03:31] <jadaz87> !bind
[03:31] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[03:31] <rnd_null> I am having a problem connecting to my computer with my Palm T2 over bluetooth.  I can push files over form the PC just fine, and I can also connect from the PC just fine, however I am unable to connect to the PC from the Palm...I get a PPP timeout 0x1231 error every time...help
[03:31] <useruser> ian_: can you pastebin the fstab file?
[03:31] <Toma-> lampshade: whats the exact line for plf u have?
[03:31] <arrick> davidmoore83, I gave up on the printserver, no good drivers, si U want to dual boot my laptop to learn lnux
[03:31] <ian_> useruser Just did.
[03:31] <Abnix> my isp's dns is beyond insanely-slow....I'd like to run my own dns....
[03:31] <nazty>  close useruser
[03:31] <ian_> useruser http://pastebin.com/626190
[03:31] <IamEthos> nickrud: where do I look for debs beside the developer's website?
[03:31] <lampshade> Toma-, deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free  which is what is on their site too  I also have the source one right under it
[03:32] <nickrud> IamEthos, what application?
[03:32] <useruser> ian_: ok, ubuntu is weirder than i thought :)
[03:32] <Toma-> hangon... lampshade, dvdshrink is in ubuntu repos
[03:32] <Toma-> !info dvdshrink
[03:32] <geargolem> how can I refind the file I used to set my pythonpath?
[03:32] <IamEthos> is there some secret website to find repositories no included with Ubuntu
[03:32] <useruser> ian_: never mind, add a line like this to that file:
[03:32] <ian_> useruser :)
[03:32] <Toma-> or not...
[03:32] <NovaScorpio> Just wondering - is there any way to know *why* the update-notifier wants me to reboot? I know that it's because /var/run/reboot-required got touched, but there's nothing in /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d or /var/run/ that seems to indicate why I'm rebooting...
[03:32] <CreatureOfLegend> Hello. I have a question:  Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't.  What do I do to mount it manually?
[03:32] <IamEthos> I don't have anything in mind at the moment
[03:32] <ian_> useruser at bottom?
[03:32] <Toma-> *scratches head*
[03:32] <arrick> davidmoore83, you have a refernce link for me?
[03:32] <lampshade> Toma-, their site also says it is in the repo.... :-/  I'm as puzzled as you
[03:32] <useruser> ian_: /dev/hda1       /mnt/stuff           ext3    defaults        0       0
[03:32] <useruser> ian_: yeah, anywhere you like
[03:33] <IamEthos> but I've seen things like Xpad that don't have repos link on their site. If it  wasn't included in Ubuntu, where would I look?
[03:33] <useruser> ian_: you can change /mnt/stuff to where you want the disk to be mounted
[03:33] <ian_> useruser Then save and close?
[03:33] <useruser> ian_: yes
[03:33] <davidmoore83> err sorry arrick no - sure i gave you one last night?
[03:33] <useruser> ian_: then sudo mkdir /mnt/stuff
[03:33] <useruser> ian_: and sudo mount -a
[03:33] <arrick> nope
[03:33] <corvax> secret webite
[03:33] <corvax> lol
[03:33] <av8> when i tried to install kde using this command - "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:33] <av8> "
[03:33] <CreatureOfLegend> Hello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?
[03:33] <arrick> not for that, I was getting printers setup fo for the last three days
[03:33] <corvax> sorry
[03:33] <ian_> useruser How do you mean shnge /mnt/stuff to where I want it mounted?
[03:33] <Toma-> why the hell do i have dvdshrink in my repos with such a bare sources.list...
[03:33] <arrick> !dualboot
[03:33] <ubotu> well, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[03:34] <av8> i got this message - "kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[03:34] <av8> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 131 not upgraded.
[03:34] <av8> bash: ISOs:: command not found
[03:34] <av8> "
[03:34] <Jamsi> Anyone know how to add two exchange accounts on evolution?
[03:34] <useruser> ian_: well the way i've suggested will have the partition mounted (ie accessible) at the dir /mnt/stuff
[03:34] <useruser> ian_: you can give it a better name if you like
[03:34] <CreatureOfLegend> Hello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?
[03:34] <av8> what do i need to do in order to install it ?
[03:34] <arrick> If I have a working printer on xp, can I set it so it will network to ubuntu?
[03:34] <ian_> useruser I'd like it in Places> Computer  with Name "Slave" minus quotes...
[03:35] <Toma-> well im baffled.
[03:35] <ian_> useruser inside location Computer.
[03:35] <glick> excuse me what packages do i need to install to run qt applications?
[03:35] <corvax> mount /dev/sda
[03:35] <Desh> can anyone here help me with kubuntu, no one on that channel responds
[03:35] <useruser> ian_: ok, i'm not sure about places>computer, but I think /mnt/slave is a good name then
[03:35] <nickrud> glick, just install the qt app you want, you'll get the packages you need
[03:35] <IamEthos> is there any way to hide all of the icons in a workspace?
[03:35] <Toma-> glick: build or run qt apps...
[03:35] <_jason> glick: just install any qt application using synaptic and it will automatically get the dependencies you need
[03:35] <corvax> right?
[03:35] <jadaz87> nickrud how do i get easy tag to not modify files automatically :-\
[03:35] <IamEthos> ideally, I'd like to have 1 workspace for stickies, one for icons and two for applications
[03:36] <CreatureOfLegend> Hello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?
[03:36] <glick> _jason: the person just wants to run a qt app that i wrote
[03:36] <ian_> useruser So.... sudo mkdir /mnt/Slave first?
[03:36] <CreatureOfLegend> Hello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?
[03:36] <IamEthos> but for the application workspaces to be blank
[03:36] <Desh> can anyone help me with kubuntu?
[03:36] <green_earz> Abnix: have a look at " aptitude show pdnsd  " it may be more suited to your needs ?
[03:36] <useruser> ian_: before mount -a, yes
[03:36] <riddlebox> I ran like 37 updates and now my second user cannot log into gnome it can log into failsafe console but not gnome?
[03:36] <useruser> *sudo
[03:36] <Desh> it has to do more with adept really
[03:36] <IdleOne> !tell Desh about ask
[03:36] <FliesLikeALap> what command can I use to see how fast this network drop is (I'm on a laptop and think it is 100mbit but want to check)
[03:36] <lampshade> Toma-, under closer inspection of the apt-get update output, I noticed that it is saying ign:  for the plf sources,  why is it being ignored??
[03:36] <Toma-> no idea
[03:36] <FliesLikeALap> lampshade  maybe because he updated very recently?
[03:36] <Toma-> bbl
[03:37] <_jason> glick: try #kubuntu too, I don't know much about qt/kde myself
[03:37] <nickrud> jadaz87, not sure what you mean
[03:37] <CreatureOfLegend> Excuse me, could somebody please point me to Ubuntu support IRC group?
[03:37] <useruser> lampshade: i expect you have a line in /etc/apt/sources.list which shouldn't be there (or should be in a comment)
[03:37] <davidmoore83> CreatureOfLegend, ur here
[03:37] <glick> Desh: whats the problem?
[03:37] <ian_> useruser Ok I did that but terminal didn't send confirm or anything...Is this normal?
[03:37] <jadaz87> nickrud when the program open it scans the directories and starts modifying files i want to modify them manually
[03:37] <niki> _jason, your solution worked, i can use sudo now...thanks so much!
[03:37] <useruser> ian_: yeah
[03:37] <CreatureOfLegend> davidmoore83: How do you get support here?
[03:37] <Desh> Ok, I tried getting USB drives to work so i used adget to install hotplug but it failed and a full update failed, so I erstart hoping it will work next time and now Kubuntu wont load bast the battery info check, pressing alt f4 i can login to command line, using startx doest work
[03:37] <_jason> niki: np
[03:37] <Kritical> I've just edited /etc/network/interfaces ... anyone know the command to activate the changes?
[03:37] <ian_> useruser And will simply looking for my newly nuked HD work now?
[03:37] <arrick> thanks guys
[03:37] <davidmoore83> i'm buggered if i can get open office to work in xcfe
[03:37] <useruser> ian_: type df and see if the partition shows up
[03:38] <arrick> I'll be back
[03:38] <davidmoore83> CreatureOfLegend,  you ask a question!
[03:38] <useruser> ian_: dunno about the gui side of things
[03:38] <CreatureOfLegend> davidmoore83: I did. 3 times ^_^
[03:38] <CreatureOfLegend> Hello. I have a question: Sometimes when I plug my USB removable storage drive in, it automatically mounts. But more often it doesn't. What do I do to mount it manually?
[03:38] <useruser> ian_: probably, if it's any good :)
[03:38] <nickrud> jadaz87, ok, that's easytag updating tags to a later standard for tagging if I remember right
[03:38] <IdleOne> !tell CreatureOfLegend about patience
[03:38] <av8> anyone??
[03:38] <av8> please..
[03:38] <davidmoore83> CreatureOfLegend, this is IRC thats how it operates. Be patient keep repeating ur Q every so often and eventually someone will help
[03:39] <neo911> hi does any1 remember the name of pkg to install for the application post-it-note on the desktop? thx
[03:39] <IamEthos> is there any way to make Gaim dock to the side of my desktop?
[03:39] <av8> i want to install kde on ubuntu
[03:39] <glick> Desh: then simply try to uninstall what you installed
[03:39] <_jason> !kde
[03:39] <ubotu> it has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:39] <introvert> av8: Apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <Desh>  Ok, I tried getting USB drives to work so i used adget to install hotplug but it failed and a full update failed, so I erstart hoping it will work next time and now Kubuntu wont load bast the battery info check, pressing alt f4 i can login to command line, using startx doest work
[03:39] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: dmesg | tail to find out the device name, then mount it with the mount command
[03:39] <ian_> useruser Sent copy of DF to Pastebin
[03:39] <IdleOne> av8, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <NeighborhoodNer1> Kritical: can u do ifconfig ethx down
[03:39] <jadaz87> nickrud because the Tag and File Name Scan window is open and it set on fill tag when the program opens and starts modifying files what does that mean?
[03:39] <NeighborhoodNer1> followed by ifconfig ethx up?
[03:39] <useruser> ian_: rats, it's not there
[03:39] <neo911> hi does any1 remember the name of pkg to install for the application post-it-note on the desktop? thx
[03:40] <_jason> av8: use aptitude if you want to be able to easily remove it in the future: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:40] <useruser> ian_: can you paste the new /etc/fstab too?
[03:40] <green_earz> Kritical: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[03:40] <ifr> Another kernel config question: if I have patched the source can I still do make-oldconfig or must I do make-config?
[03:40] <_jason> !kde =~ s/apt-get/aptitude/
[03:40] <ubotu> OK, _jason
[03:40] <IdleOne> neo911, I think you mean gdesklets
[03:40] <Desh> no one has any clues?
[03:40] <bhoman> hey i got gtkwifi how to i have it run as root on the panel?
[03:40] <ifr> gksudo gtkwifi?
[03:40] <Desh> Why would my OS stop booting after a restart?
[03:40] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: I get a lot of info from dmesg | tail gives me a lot of info. what does a device name look like?
[03:40] <ifr> Cause the power is off?
[03:40] <ian_> useruser ian@KingWolf:~$ /etc/fstab
[03:40] <ian_> bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied
[03:41] <bhoman> would that make is run as root all the time?
[03:41] <av8> what do i do after that?
[03:41] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: /dev/sr0, /dev/sda, etc
[03:41] <NovaScorpio> Anyone know why update-notifier would tell me to reboot if I didn't update the kernel?
[03:41] <ifr> ian_ sudo
[03:41] <Desh> Its a laptop and power is not off
[03:41] <cabajgtr> Can someone help me add users to Samba, it wont take when I 'smbpasswd -a' my original user works fine
[03:41] <useruser> ian_: sorry, i mean sudo gedit /etc/fstab, copy and paste it in
[03:41] <neo911> IdleOne, k thx ill try it out
[03:41] <nickrud> jadaz87, try closing the the scanner, and running without it. Or, let it try to write the first tag; it'll ask for permission and tell you exactly what it wants to do
[03:41] <ifr> Desh, sorry, I was just being a wiseass. Does it restart when you push the power button on and the only problem is it won't automatically work when you do sudo init 6
[03:41] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: It's dev/sda but when I type mount /dev/sda I get can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab error message
[03:41] <corvax> if its  the usb drive is fat try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:42] <lampshade> useruser, I don't think there is an error, not that I can see, it also tends to ignore the places that are more unofficial it seems, like the opera repo it also is ignoring
[03:42] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: right, you need to use sudo
[03:42] <NovaScorpio> cabajgtr: Have you seen and read http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver ?
[03:42] <Desh> well in command prompt startx returns with errors
[03:42] <Kritical> green_earz: reconfiguring network interfaces - fail
[03:42] <useruser> lampshade: ok. it's a pretty odd error message though
[03:42] <Desh> is there a way to reinstall the SO w/o losing the info on my drive?
[03:42] <nazty> .quit
[03:42] <ian_> useruser K, one sec
[03:43] <IamEthos> Desh: did you fuck up your xorg.conf file?
[03:43] <useruser> ian_: got it
[03:43] <nickrud> jadaz87, or, try scanning just a subdirectory of what you're opening on. Or, tell easytag not to scan any directory on startup. (things I remember doing)
[03:43] <ian_> useruser Sent
[03:43] <Desh> I think so
[03:43] <IamEthos> if so, fixingthat up might not be too dificult
[03:43] <Desh> i didnt touch it tho
[03:43] <useruser> ian_: i don't see that new /dev/hda1 line i asked you to add there
[03:43] <IamEthos> the hotfix or whatever you ran may have
[03:43] <useruser> ian_: /dev/hda1       /mnt/stuff           ext3    defaults        0       0
[03:43] <Desh> ok
[03:43] <Desh> thanks, i'll see to fixing it
[03:43] <IamEthos> that's what it was when I couldn't start X
[03:44] <CreatureOfLegend> corvax: It says wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, missing codepage or other error in some cases useful info is found in syslog -try dmesg | tail or so
[03:44] <useruser> ian_: paste it into gedit and save the file (change /mnt/stuff to /mnt/Slave)
[03:44] <IamEthos> I think X is what I couldn't start, anyway
[03:44] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: try /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda
[03:44] <IamEthos> I'm still new to this
[03:44] <IamEthos> lol
[03:44] <CreatureOfLegend> ok
[03:44] <ian_> useruser Ok, pasted and saved.  Then closed..
[03:44] <useruser> ian_: cool. now try sudo mount -a -v
[03:44] <Vineet> can somebody help me with real audio streaming music?
[03:44] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: I did that and it didn't give me an error message. But I don't see the drive icon popping up either
[03:45] <ian_> useruser not Sudo mkdir /mnt/Slave first?
[03:45] <corvax> creature do
[03:45] <corvax> sudo fdisk -l
[03:45] <useruser> ian_: didn't you do that already?
[03:45] <NovaScorpio> Hey, does anyone know why update-notifier would tell me to reboot if I didn't update the kernel?
[03:45] <nickrud> !realplayer
[03:45] <ubotu> from memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:45] <green_earz> Kritical: so the edit you did to the network interface most be wrong. you can use the app etherconf to setup the network ether inface to static or dynamic.
[03:45] <useruser> ian_: that creates the mount point and only needs to be done once
[03:45] <useruser> ian_: ld -ld /mnt/Slave to check
[03:45] <useruser> ian_: oops
[03:45] <CreatureOfLegend> corvax: I did. And it gives me a bunch of stuff
[03:45] <useruser> ian_: ls -ld /mnt/Slave to check
[03:45] <Khaaaaan> hey guys
[03:46] <davidmoore83> how many of you use xcfe?
[03:46] <Kritical> green_earz: I deleted what I added.. and it still failed.. whoops.. I'll use etherconf.. but it doesn't do ip aliasing
[03:46] <corvax> do you see an instasnces of sda or sda1?
[03:46] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: i dunno about the gui, it's too clever for its own good
[03:46] <CreatureOfLegend> What am I looking for?
[03:46] <Khaaaaan> How am I supposed to read E books in Linux?
[03:46] <Khaaaaan> Adobe shits the bed when I try
[03:46] <IamEthos> does anyone know of a dock program that mimics OS X's dock for Linux?
[03:46] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: just navigate to the mount point using nautilus
[03:46] <green_earz> Kritical: ok
[03:46] <IamEthos> I saw some when I googled earlier, but can't find them again
[03:46] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: what's nautilus and how to I get to it?
[03:46] <ian_> useruser Check says: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2006-03-27 17:24 /mnt/Slave
[03:46] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: Places > Computer
[03:46] <useruser> ian_: that's all good
[03:46] <lwizardl> Toma-, you try that?
[03:46] <useruser> ian_: now run sudo mount -a -v
[03:47] <riddlebox> does anyone know why after doing updates my other users cannot log into gnome?
[03:47] <davidmoore83> Toma-, you tried xcfe?
[03:47] <Toma-> what?
[03:47] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: Ok. I'm there, but it doesn't have the flash drive.
[03:47] <Toma-> davidmoore83: yep. nice little DE
[03:47] <Vineet> I am able to listen to real audio from hard disk...but if I try to open sites which stream real audio...it does not work
[03:47] <ian_> useruser Says nothing was mounted
[03:47] <useruser> ian_: darn
[03:47] <Khaaaaan> This sucks, stupid DRM... I switch from Windows to Linux and now all my Ebooks have shit the bed
[03:47] <Khaaaaan> :(
[03:47] <davidmoore83> Toma-, you installed open office under it?
[03:47] <useruser> ian_: can you paste that file again?
[03:47] <ian_> useruser <shakes head> It's got to be me screwing something up... ID10T error...
[03:48] <Toma-> davidmoore83: no... why use a light desktop with a heavy editor? :/ if youre just typing, use abiword
[03:48] <IdleOne> !tell Khaaaaan about restrictedformats
[03:48] <useruser> ian_: maybe, could just as easily be me :)
[03:48] <davidmoore83> Toma-, i need this for work
[03:48] <Bowsa> is liquid weather available for ubuntu
[03:48] <davidmoore83> Toma-, yet the office pc is crap :)
[03:48] <leslie> anyone know what would cause this error on wine? "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."
[03:48] <corvax> when you did ail -f /var/log/messages  did you sdee
[03:48] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: did you navigate to the mount point?
[03:48] <PuMp> Toma-
[03:48] <Toma-> davidmoore83: need to save to MS format?
[03:48] <Toma-> hi there
[03:48] <PuMp> i could make it work :D
[03:48] <corvax> anything
[03:49] <corvax> likle this
[03:49] <Toma-> PuMp: :O good stuff! :D
[03:49] <PuMp> they were the refresh
[03:49] <corvax> Attached scsi removable disk sda at
[03:49] <PuMp> values
[03:49] <davidmoore83> Toma-, yes and could do with excel functionallity and powerpoint
[03:49] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: what do you mean to the mount point?  I'm in Places > computer and it doesn't say anything about mount
[03:49] <Vineet> Am I missing something here? I installed realplayer, copied the plugins to firefox directory, but still firefox doesn't stream real-audio
[03:49] <Khaaaaan> pdf is a restricted format?
[03:49] <Khaaaaan> hrm
[03:49] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: what command did you type to mount the drive?
[03:49] <Bowsa> is liquid weather available for ubuntu
[03:49] <Toma-> PuMp: thought so. weird how the offical specs are not favorable with xorg!
[03:49] <useruser> Khaaaaan: shorely not
[03:49] <ian_> useruser Sent
[03:49] <PuMp> now i just need to know how to enable nat
[03:49] <CreatureOfLegend> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:49] <Khaaaaan> Apparently so...
[03:49] <Toma-> davidmoore83: ahh ok. well you can get a preloaded of openoffice to make it start quicker
[03:50] <PuMp> dapper recognize one of my ethernet that breezy didn't
[03:50] <corvax> if its not fat that
[03:50] <Toma-> *preloader
[03:50] <corvax> wont work
[03:50] <Vineet> ok guys..bbye
[03:50] <davidmoore83> Toma-, what do you mean by that? - having realy issues installing it
[03:50] <davidmoore83> Searching for the openofficeorg installation ...
[03:50] <davidmoore83> openoffice.org-en-GB-2.0.1-1.i586.sh: line 72: rpm: command not found
[03:50] <davidmoore83> Where do you want to install the language pack ? [] 
[03:50] <useruser> ian_: if you load the file in gedit and press control-end, is the cursor at the start of a blank line?
[03:50] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: after I try this "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt" it says it's already mounted. but I can't see it :(
[03:50] <green_earz> Kritical:http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html  > 10.6.1.7 Configuring virtual interfaces > iface eth0:0   the link may be of help ?
[03:50] <useruser> ian_: if not, then hit enter
[03:50] <ian_> maruchan Think I know you....
[03:50] <Toma-> davidmoore83: oh... installing? rpm? what the..
[03:50] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: in nautilus, type /mnt and press enter
[03:50] <Khaaaaan> I wonder if I would have better luck with XPDF
[03:51] <NewU> lo all
[03:51] <davidmoore83> Toma-, see the error i recieved?
[03:51] <useruser> Khaaaaan: what are you trying to do?
[03:51] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: "/mnt: is a directory
[03:51] <CreatureOfLegend> that's what it says when I do that
[03:51] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: in nautilus, not in a terminal
[03:51] <ian_> useruser I think I'm confused....About that last part...
[03:51] <NewU> can anyone help me with 3d accel on a ati card??
[03:51] <Toma-> davidmoore83: try "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2-base"
[03:51] <useruser> ian_: ok, do you still have the file loaded in gedit?
[03:51] <Khaaaaan> useruser: read an ebook that I once had on my windows PC
[03:51] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: you said I get to nautilus by going to Places > computer.  That's like mycomputer in windows. It doesn't have anywhere to type in stuff.
[03:52] <Toma-> davidmoore83: woops.....
[03:52] <PuMp> anybody knows how to enable nat?
[03:52] <Toma-> davidmoore83: try "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2"
[03:52] <Khaaaaan> I moved to linux, and I cannot register it
[03:52] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: correct
[03:52] <Toma-> no -base
[03:52] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: just do it anyway
[03:52] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: prepare to be amazed.... :P
[03:52] <ian_> useuser After I pasted that dev... into gedit I saved and quit gedit.
[03:52] <useruser> ian_: ok. load the file in gedit again
[03:52] <Toma-> ubotu: tell NewU about ati
[03:52] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: how can I type /mnt somewhere when there is nowhere to type it in?
[03:52] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: just type without worrying about that
[03:52] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: pretend there's a nice big edit box if it makes you happy
[03:53] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: ok. Nothing happens
[03:53] <lwizardl> whats the paste page for ubuntu
[03:53] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: heh
[03:53] <Khaaaaan> useruser: It says I can't read it "in it's current state", then something about plugins
[03:53] <davidmoore83> Toma-, nice cheers mate - where you located btw?
[03:53] <_jason> lwizardl: /topic
[03:53] <Toma-> davidmoore83: australia
[03:53] <no0tic> is there any ndiswrapper mantainer?
[03:53] <davidmoore83> Toma-, ex pat or aus born?
[03:53] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: ah, i forgot something :)
[03:53] <Toma-> no0tic: id say so. otherwise the package wouldnt exist
[03:53] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: press control-l first, then type
[03:53] <Khaaaaan> I can't seem to find any other Adobe versions in synaptic....
[03:53] <Toma-> davidmoore83: au born :) im only 22
[03:53] <CreatureOfLegend> ok. Ill try that
[03:54] <ian_> useruser Gedit opened...
[03:54] <CreatureOfLegend> useruser: Ok that works. Thank you
[03:54] <davidmoore83> Toma-, i'm only 23 but i will be ex pat somewhere shortly need out the UK hell hole :)
[03:54] <no0tic> Toadstool, here, I mean
[03:54] <useruser> CreatureOfLegend: np
[03:54] <nickrud> useruser, that's the gtk file selector dialog, and yeah, it's great isn't it
[03:54] <NewU> didnt help
[03:54] <no0tic> Toma-, here, I mean
[03:54] <NewU> have already read that guide
[03:54] <useruser> ian_: ok, now press control-end
[03:54] <NewU> problem is that ati driver install keeps throwing me out
[03:54] <Toma-> no0tic: no, but you can email him Maintainer: Andres Salomon <dilinger@debian.org>
[03:54] <lwizardl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10949
[03:54] <useruser> ian_: does the cursor go to the end of the last line, or the start of a blank line?
[03:54] <ian_> useruser Cursor went to bottom of gedit
[03:54] <no0tic> Toma-, thanks
[03:55] <Toma-> no0tic: np
[03:55] <useruser> ian_: (i'm grasping at straws here, by the way)
[03:55] <Toma-> NewU: what are the errors?
[03:55] <ian_> useruser <appreciates it> Cursor went to last line.
[03:55] <NewU> sry to be unspecific buts its a generic error
[03:55] <TheFaction20> hey guys....i'm having an issue with my western digital external hard drive
[03:55] <Khaaaaan> Well this stinks... useruser, should I try XPDF?
[03:55] <useruser> ian_: is the last line blank, or is it the line you pasted?
[03:55] <NewU> have looked over it with more experienceed heads
[03:55] <ian_> useruser Blank
[03:56] <useruser> ian_: ok, that's as it should be
[03:56] <ian_> useruser <is glad!>
[03:56] <useruser> ian_: hm
[03:56] <corvax> is this external hardriveday?
[03:56] <corvax> or what
[03:56] <TheFaction20> lol corvax
[03:56] <leslie> anyone know how I might fix this wine error? "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."
[03:56] <useruser> ian_: and df still says nothing about /dev/hda1 ?
[03:56] <davidmoore83> Toma-, how do i get the other office packages?
[03:56] <NewU> Toma: the consensus is that i gotta uninstall the exsisting ati stuff that ships with Ub 5.10
[03:56] <TheFaction20> i've been trying forever trying to get this thing to work
[03:56] <ian_> useruser HM?
[03:56] <Toma-> NewU: what is this generic error? look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:57] <NewU> I have
[03:57] <TheFaction20> i always get to a different point whenever i get some one new
[03:57] <NewU> Toma: can't remember off-hand (not on system now)
[03:57] <Toma-> davidmoore83: run "apt-cache search openoffice.org2"
[03:57] <useruser> ian_: that is, when you type df into a terminal (that program tells you about free hard disk space, and mentions all mounted filesystems) .. there's nothing about /dev/hda1?
[03:57] <rob138> is there a terminal command that will send a message to all users logged into the computer?
[03:57] <NewU> but its next to useless
[03:57] <Toma-> NewU: well thats not really going to help.
[03:57] <glick> is libstdc++6 available on hoary?
[03:57] <ian_> useruser Good news: DF reports Slave.  Bad news: I have no idea what you meant with HM..
[03:57] <useruser> ian_: ok, never mind
[03:57] <NewU> appreciated, hang on
[03:57] <useruser> ian_: that means it's all working!
[03:57] <Toma-> ok
[03:58] <ian_> useruser Can I smoke a victory cigarette now? ;)
[03:58] <useruser> ian_: you should see 9 or 10 gigs of free disk space on /dev/hda1 reported by df
[03:58] <useruser> ian_: sure, if you want CANCER :P
[03:58] <ian_> useruser :P
[03:58] <Toma-> davidmoore83: getting the openoffice.org2 package will get the suite, meaning most/all of the programs
[03:59] <neo911> what application (sort of organizer app) do you guys use to put your todo list in? and what pkg is it? thx
[03:59] <davidmoore83> Toma-, thanks
[03:59] <ian_> useruser /dev/hda1              9249520    131228   8648440   2% /mnt/Slave
[03:59] <rambo2981> it's been months since i first installed ubuntu and finally i've my project; silly me i forget the root password and also my user password (dumb); anyway i can reset it?
[03:59] <useruser> ian_: i dunno if it'll appear in places > computer or on the desktop or not
[03:59] <nickrud> rob138, wall
[03:59] <ian_> useruser I don't see it, but I haven't used Search for files...
[03:59] <Khaaaaan> Where would Acroread files be located in my Filesystem??
[03:59] <Toma-> !mnemo
[03:59] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Toma-
[03:59] <lwizardl> can someone take a look at the error i'm getting from a page on plf
[03:59] <Toma-> !info mnemo
[04:00] <ubotu> mnemo: (Notes and Memo Application), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.1-2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 171 kB, Installed size: 1072 kB
[04:00] <Toma-> neo911: ^^
[04:00] <corvax> !moo
[04:00] <ubotu> moo is, like, totally, moo
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> Anyone have experience with the 'import' command?  Please join us in -offtopic.
[04:00] <neo911> Toma- was that for me?
[04:00] <useruser> ian_: ok. you could open places > computer, hit control-l and type /mnt, then drag Slave with the middle mouse button to the desktop and select link here
[04:00] <neo911> oh ok thx
[04:00] <ian_> useruser I think it says I only have 2% free...
[04:00] <Toma-> neo911: yeh, never used it tho
[04:00] <lbf> ?
[04:00] <useruser> ian_: nah, that's 2% used
[04:00] <Toma-> neo911: or even gtodo
[04:00] <Khaaaaan> Like if I wanted to navigate to it>??
[04:00] <lbf> where?
[04:00] <corvax> new to apt try apt-get install moo
[04:01] <_jason> rambo2981: I would boot with a livecd and set the root password to * in /etc/shadow, then boot in recovery mode and use passwd to set my passwords.  There is probably an easier way that I don't know of too :)
[04:01] <Toma-> neo911: theres even gtodo-applet for the tray :)
[04:01] <ian_> useruser You're correct.  Again. ;)  Trying Control -L
[04:01] <Toma-> corvax: its "apt-get moo"
[04:01] <neo911> Toma-, you mean in mnemo?
[04:01] <Khaaaaan> Guys?
[04:01] <Toma-> neo911: no, gtodo
[04:01] <rambo2981> ok will try that
[04:01] <corvax> sorry
[04:01] <Toma-> corvax: ;D
[04:01] <corvax> havent done it in a long time
[04:01] <NewU> let me ask this. has anyone got 3 acceleration working on an ati card in 5.10???
[04:02] <NewU> for instance to play quake 3 or whatever
[04:02] <ian_> useruser And if I have no middle mouse button?  (has scroll wheel that depresses)
[04:02] <neo911> Toma-, k ill try that one too
[04:02] <Khaaaaan> Okay, let me phrase it this way, where does Adobe reader install too??
[04:02] <Toma-> sorry all, i gotta go
[04:02] <Kritical> green_earz: that's what I've been reading through.. can't understand why it's not accepting the configuration :/ I honestly havn't edited anything.. I've only appended to the end of the file
[04:02] <useruser> ian_: depressing that that *is* presing your middle mouse button :)
[04:02] <ian_> useruser Yep. It worked.
[04:02] <Toma-> cheerio
[04:02] <useruser> ian_: great
[04:02] <ian_> useruser And select Move here?
[04:03] <useruser> ian_: no, link here
[04:03] <michael117> Today when I booted, I was prompted to install updates and when I entered my password and tried to open it, I got this error message: "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root:
[04:03] <michael117>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[04:04] <ian_> useruser Ok, done.  What's the little red padlock simbol next to the link to Slave icon?
[04:04] <neo911> anyone have used Windows Vista trial? is it really better than XP?
[04:04] <useruser> ian_: it probably means you have to use sudo to delete that dir
[04:04] <ian_> neo911 LINUX is better than XP.
[04:04] <green_earz> Kritical: paste the file in #flood or use a pastebin site, so i can have a look at it
[04:05] <michael117> neo911: fuck vista
[04:05] <ian_> useruser Good.
[04:05] <_jason> michael117: what does 'ls -l ~/.{X,ICE}authority' say?
[04:05] <neo911> ian_, i know that alrady
[04:05] <corvax> lol asking about vista in a  linux channel
[04:05] <jax0m> sudo find / -type f -exec grep -Hn your_root_password_here '{}' \;
[04:05] <jax0m> i recommend all of you do that
[04:05] <jax0m> to find the installer bug
[04:05] <ian_> neo911 Then why are you concerned with Vista.  Linux is better than that too.  It's free and not related to G*tes.
[04:05] <jax0m> before someone roots you :P
[04:06] <glick> gates is a cool guy
[04:06] <glick> dont diss gates
[04:06] <ian_> useruser Thank you so much man...
[04:06] <Khaaaaan> Where can I find the adobe acrobat directory?????/
[04:06] <michael117> _jason: -rw-------  1 root    root     118 2006-03-09 17:25 /home/michael/.Xauthority
[04:06] <Khaaaaan> Does anyone know??
[04:06] <corvax> yeah gates is cool
[04:06] <corvax> lol
[04:06] <useruser> ian_: come to think of it, you probably want to run sudo chown `whoami`:`whoami` /mnt/Slave/ so that you don't need sudo to write stuff into that dir
[04:06] <glick> his company is a preditory monster, but gates himself, the man, is a cool an humanitarian dude
[04:06] <_jason> michael117: have you been running gui programs with sudo?
[04:06] <riddlebox> what would cause one user to not be able to log in after a bunch of updates?
[04:06] <useruser> ian_: np
[04:06] <corvax> his mob style tactics are "coo"
[04:06] <useruser> Khaaaaan: did you install it
[04:07] <glick> i admire gates
[04:07] <glick> i dont like what MS does
[04:07] <michael117> _jason: maybe like nautilus a week ago to access some folders belonging to root
[04:07] <glick> but i admire gates
[04:07] <rambo2981> does anyone know how the EU keeps MS in check?
[04:07] <ian_> useruser Should I get a confirm or anything from typing that?
[04:07] <useruser> rambo2981: immense fines?
[04:07] <corvax> rambo it DOESNT
[04:07] <corvax> noone does
[04:07] <rambo2981> nope ... s/w patents are illegal
[04:07] <jadaz87> rambo2981 FINES
[04:07] <useruser> ian_: no, most stuff in unix only complains when stuff goes wrong
[04:07] <_jason> michael117: use gksudo when you do that, not sudo.  Did it say anything for ICEauthority?
[04:07] <ian_> useruser New to Command line interface besides MSDOS.
[04:07] <green_earz> glick: mark shuttleworth is the humanitarian in my eyes
[04:07] <corvax> ms and its lobbyists own the govt
[04:07] <michael117> _jason: -rw-------  1 michael michael 1431 2006-03-27 15:42 /home/michael/.ICEauthority
[04:08] <NewU> does anyone have 3d acceleration enabled on an ati card???
[04:08] <neo911> when you install using synaptic, what location does the app go? i usually have this problem locating how to run the app whenever it doesnt create an icon in the menu
[04:08] <ian_> useruser Ok, last question , and if you'd like to be left alone I can ask somebody else..
[04:08] <_jason> michael117: 'sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.Xauthority'
[04:08] <useruser> ian_: go ahead
[04:08] <corvax> ugh dont get me started
[04:08] <glick> green_earz: mark shuttleworth too, i admire him too
[04:08] <green_earz> np
[04:08] <Drac[Server] > Where are the session desktop files stored for GDM?
[04:08] <ian_> useruser I have a 30G with Darkstar on it.  Not mine.  Previous owner installed it.  When looking through all the HD's given to me I found this out.
[04:09] <nickrud> neo911, it gets parted out in various places ; dpkg -L <packagename> | grep /bin will tell you the executable file names
[04:09] <michael117> _jason: okay, now what?
[04:09] <Sergi0> neo911 within synaptic locate that package, check with the property button on top of the screen, all of the info is there
[04:09] <ian_> useruser I couldn't reformat it (I was using XP then)...It was aslo PW protected...
[04:09] <_jason> michael117: now it should work
[04:09] <ian_> useruser Can I install this HD into my comp and nuke it too?
[04:09] <useruser> ian_: don't see why not
[04:09] <rambo2981> jason i've booted the live cd and in gedit i try to open /etc/shadow but access is denied; also i see a shadow and a shadow-
[04:10] <BlueHeron> ian_: i put an HD into my comp the other day to reformat it :-P
[04:10] <corvax> dban is greak
[04:10] <_jason> rambo2981: make sure you edit the /etc/shadow on your mounted drive.  And use sudo
[04:10] <corvax> great even
[04:10] <BlueHeron> ian_: you can use gparted
[04:10] <Kritical> green_earz: http://pastebin.com/626243
[04:10] <useruser> ian_: unless there's password protection in the hardware (i never heard of that) you should be able to happily nuke just about everything :)
[04:10] <rambo2981> k will try now
[04:10] <neo911> i just installed mnemo and did "dpkg -L mnemo | grep /bin" but it showed nothing
[04:10] <neo911> nickrud,
[04:10] <rambo2981> do i have to manually mount the HD or will the live cd version from cd do that?
[04:10] <_jason> rambo2981: make sure you make a backup of the file before editing it
[04:10] <_jason> rambo2981: manually
[04:10] <ian_> useruser Is there a FAQ or Walk-thru that I can read to do this?  And how do I ensure Ubuntu will load and not the Darkstar?  (had prob of DStar loading no matter what jumper config and not allowing XP to boot)
[04:10] <michael117> _jason: ... it doesn't
[04:11] <Drac[Server] > GDM session files? Anyone?
[04:11] <_jason> michael117: does it still give you the error?
[04:11] <nickrud> Sergi0's method works also neo911
[04:11] <_jason> michael117: (same error)?
[04:11] <useruser> ian_: the booting thing is between your bios and your drive
[04:11] <rambo2981> sorry i am a newby; cmd pls to mount the HD?
[04:11] <bkf> hello!
[04:11] <ian_> useruser  Thought so.  Wondered if I'd forgotten to reconfig bios then.. ;)
[04:11] <Sergi0> hi
[04:11] <useruser> ian_: it depends on your motherboard and so on. i don't know of a howto, but it sounds like gparted is worth a shot
[04:12] <michael117> _jason: indeed. although, the "ls -l ~/.{X,ICE}authority" command that you told me now says that I am the owner of both things
[04:12] <ian_> useruser Gparted?
[04:12] <useruser> ian_: someone else mentioned it just now, it sounds like a nice point and drool gui :)
[04:12] <ian_> useruser Find it in SPM?
[04:12] <michael117> _jason: will it probably affect me next time I boot?
[04:12] <useruser> ian_: more than likely
[04:12] <bkf> i want to install the java plugin...
[04:12] <_jason> michael117: you can try
[04:12] <bkf> how can i make it?
[04:12] <ian_> useruser Ubuntu Breezy compatible?
[04:12] <nickrud> neo911, for example, if I type in a terminal  dpkg -L gedit | grep bin , it tells me the command is /usr/bin/gedit
[04:13] <useruser> ian_: if it's there, probably
[04:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell bkf about java
[04:13] <useruser> ian_: i never used it
[04:13] <shooee> hello
[04:13] <shooee> can you guys help me, i need to setup dialup on ubuntu. but it doesnt see my modem
[04:14] <nickrud> !dialup
[04:14] <ubotu> it has been said that dialup is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[04:14] <fiendskull9> hey
[04:14] <ian_> useruser Okie. If not, I'll ask somebody to walk me through eagain.  Sombody other than you. ;)  I don't want you to spend your whole night helping me. ;)
[04:14] <fiendskull9> is there a command to reset all my sound alsa settings?
[04:14] <Carby> seems to me most of the proplems ppl are having are with xserver (then maybe again i am thinking that because i am not getting into gnome atm)
[04:14] <useruser> ian_: ok:)
[04:14] <ian_> useruser Thank you again.  So glad to have XP finally toasted and gone.
[04:14] <nickrud> shooee, see that ubotu link above, and read it carefully. a lot of modems & linux do not get along because the manufacturer didn't write a driver
[04:14] <useruser> ian_: glad to help
[04:14] <ian_> useruser Am now a full linux convert! ;)
[04:14] <ardchoille> YAY!
[04:14] <shooee> hmm
[04:14] <ian_> useruser Night man.
[04:14] <IdleOne> anybody know how I get quicktime?
[04:14] <useruser> ian_: tata
[04:15] <useruser> IdleOne: don't think you can, not the official one
[04:15] <green_earz> glick: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/mpeg/2005-07-14/ > 02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg  and there is one of the episodes at >http://www.go-opensource.org/go_open/news/download_go_open/   that give a good background into is life
[04:15] <nickrud> shooee, I have to go buy a new external myself
[04:15] <fiendskull9> Mark shuttleworth is my main man.
[04:15] <fiendskull9> !alsa
[04:15] <ubotu> it has been said that alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[04:15] <IdleOne> useruser, there is a libquicktime1 package and I installed it but still cant listen to radio station
[04:16] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  On a new install of breezy, and I am getting an error when trying to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686-smp_2.6.12.4-11.1_i386.deb.  The error is "failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)".  Can anyone please help me?
[04:16] <useruser> IdleOne: dunno, sorry
[04:16] <IdleOne> useruser, np
[04:16] <_jason> michael117: another thing you can try is 'chown -R $USER:$USER ~' to make sure you own all of the stuff in your home directory
[04:16] <useruser> IdleOne: i think quicktime support for linux is very out of date though
[04:16] <useruser> IdleOne: you may have better luck with mplayer
[04:16] <useruser> IdleOne: just a guess
[04:17] <green_earz> fiendskull9: i wish there were more peaple like him
[04:17] <shooee> i was wondering
[04:17] <shooee> is there anyway to load ubuntu on a moded xbox?
[04:18] <neo911> thx Sergi0
[04:18] <fortysixand2> shooee:  this might help:  http://www.xbox-linux.org/
[04:18] <shooee> ok ty
[04:18] <fortysixand2> np
[04:18] <corvax> i  run debian on a modded x box
[04:18] <corvax> man is it slow
[04:19] <corvax> but it works
[04:19] <shooee> =\
[04:19] <shooee> ever tryed 2k?
[04:19] <fiendskull9> green_earz, did u hear ubuntu is gonna start putting more backend into kubuntu. Mark has started using kde as his default desktop.
[04:19] <corvax> i started out with xebian
[04:20] <shooee> dod you use a mod chip, or did you flash the TSOP?
[04:20] <shooee> did*
[04:20] <corvax> neither
[04:20] <corvax> i did a softmod
[04:20] <Carby> ok, i am having a problem getting into gnome, xserver is complaining about some font stuff, but i dont think the thing that makes it incabable of starting
[04:20] <shooee> thats flashing the TSOP
[04:20] <Carby> so if someone has a few moments to glance at my xorg0.log
[04:20] <Carby> http://www.pastebin.be/685/
[04:21] <corvax> hmm
[04:21] <IdleOne> Mplayer issues http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10951
[04:21] <green_earz> fiendskull9: i am a kde user, i do prefer it over gnome. two genral app i use that i find very good are kmail and kconsole
[04:21] <corvax> i did it with a mechassault gamesave
[04:21] <neo911> can i collate all these help, put it in a text publish it in a book and  collect royalties? :-)
[04:22] <corvax> sure
[04:22] <green_earz> fiendskull9: kconsole is very good with its tabbing option
[04:23] <Carby> i'm gonna move over to kde because of kate
[04:23] <neo911> who is kate?
[04:23] <djs_2_6> lol @ neo911
[04:23] <Carby> kate is the editor for kde
[04:23] <neo911> kate doesnt like gnome?
[04:23] <corvax> you can install kate
[04:23] <Carby> i have it in my gnome now
[04:24] <Carby> but i dont like having kde apps installed on gnome for some reason
[04:24] <corvax> loll
[04:24] <neo911> djs_2_6, i was just kidding
[04:24] <brenner> carby: so you can run other DEs then
[04:24] <djs_2_6> neo911 - I had figured...
[04:24] <TTT_Travis> how do I read windows formatted floppies?
[04:24] <brendan_> hey how do add repositories?
[04:24] <TTT_Travis> I have a floppy disk and it won't let me access it
[04:24] <gabbah_ubuntu> anyone running dapper and compiz/Xlg and has an nvidia card?
[04:24] <green_earz> fiendskull9: thanks for that i just aptitude show it and looks intresting
[04:25] <Carby> i am pretty much new to linux and i dont know yet what things will generally cause problems, if installing kde packages will make trouble in for gnome f.ex.
[04:25] <neo911> TTT_Travis, in Synaptic->Settings->Repositories
[04:25] <neo911> !repository
[04:25] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo911
[04:25] <neo911> !repositories
[04:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:25] <TTT_Travis> neo911 I only have command line
[04:25] <TTT_Travis> I have those enabled
[04:25] <TTT_Travis> whats the package called?
[04:26] <htrp> what is that thing called, so you can run windows on linux?
[04:26] <corvax> apt
[04:26] <htrp> or vice versa
[04:26] <neo911> try installing Synaptic if you havent already, it's much s
[04:26] <Amaranth> htrp: wine
[04:26] <neo911> easier and safer i think
[04:26] <htrp> no
[04:26] <fortysixand2> htrp:  VMWare?
[04:26] <void^> vmware, qemu
[04:26] <htrp> qemu!
[04:26] <corvax> nano etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <Amaranth> but all you need for 'windows' floppy support is vfat, which we have
[04:26] <Amaranth> so a floppy should work fine
[04:26] <TTT_Travis> k
[04:26] <TTT_Travis> I'll try
[04:26] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, I just figured out my error, and have no idea how to fix it.  I ran out of room on /.  I partitioned the drive using the max for it, 294MB, and it is now full...
[04:27] <neo911> can you alt-tab from windows to linux and vice versa using VMWare?
[04:27] <corvax> its sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:27] <GNU_Style> when I boot it say module minix not found, why?
[04:28] <Carby> no one has any ideas on my xserver problem?
[04:28] <Carby> http://www.pastebin.be/685/
[04:28] <Carby> :/
[04:29] <IdleOne> Mplayer issues http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10951
[04:30] <TTT_Travis> what is the command to mount a vfat floppy?
[04:30] <rambo2981> jason i try to mount the file system where i think /etc/shadow is and the mount fails with "cant find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab"
[04:30] <void^> IdleOne: create a symlink ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf to a font of your choice
[04:30] <djs_2_6> Anyone have any ideas for me?  Am I sol?
[04:31] <IdleOne> void^, gotta decent font I could use?
[04:31] <useruser> djs_2_6: that's uncomfortably small for a linux installation
[04:32] <void^> IdleOne: hrm, i'm using luximr.ttf here, not sure if it's decent. can't remember if i watched anything subbed on this machine yet.
[04:32] <GNU_Style> is flight 5 safe to install?
[04:33] <djs_2_6> useruser - I did it based off of what debian had laid out.  I have /usr, /var, /tmp, /home, and /.  Is that not right?  Does ubuntu act so differently from debian?
[04:33] <_damian> hi
[04:33] <Khaaaaan> hmmm anyone know how to crack Adobe DRM?
[04:33] <IdleOne> void^, can you give me the command ?
[04:33] <rambo2981> anyone know how to mount the HD linux partition so i can clear out the root password in /etc/shadow? i booted from the live cd
[04:33] <djs_2_6> Khaaaaan - Bad question to ask in public...
[04:33] <Khaaaaan> Yea, but it gets attention and I need help
[04:34] <void^> IdleOne: in .mplayer, ln -s /usr/some/font.ttf subfont.ttf
[04:34] <useruser> Khaaaaan: it's a hard problem, i think
[04:34] <levander> When I 'lsof /var/lib/dpkg' I get: "WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev".  Does lsof not support ext3?
[04:34] <Khaaaaan> useruser: But is it possible?
[04:34] <useruser> Khaaaaan: probably not
[04:34] <fortysixand2> rambo2981: mount /dev/<your partition> -t <file system type> /mnt/<directory you want to use>
[04:34] <GNU_Style> a litle help here please:
[04:34] <neo911> anyone using gtodo? have you tried snych'ing your todo list in one machine and another? thx
[04:35] <Khaaaaan> useruser: I did find this...
[04:35] <Khaaaaan> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/01/msg02427.html
[04:35] <Carby> well i guess i will have to come back another time
[04:35] <punkrockguy318> If i wanted to check for a package in a certain repository, how would I do that?
[04:35] <Carby> maybe there is someone on who knows this stuff
[04:35] <Carby> later guys
[04:35] <_damian> how do i stop ubuntu from automatically configuring network settings at startup problem is im changing my dns settings in the network confog box (networking) and they work but opn startup ubuntu is detecting the wrong ones and resetting them
[04:35] <IdleOne> void^, sorry but that didnt help me and there is no fonts under ./mplayer
[04:35] <sachi> fhmcm
[04:35] <sachi> fuck
[04:36] <djs_2_6> useruser, did I totally screw up?  If so, is it possible to fix without a reinstall?
[04:36] <void^> IdleOne: yes, that's why you need to create a link to a font there.
[04:36] <glick> cool video green_earz
[04:36] <useruser> djs_2_6: maybe you could use gparted or something similar to expand the partition?
[04:36] <Bowsa> hello can anyone tell me how to install a skz file
[04:36] <BlueHeron> whats the cmd to get out of a full screen app without closing it?
[04:36] <useruser> Khaaaaan: are you trying to open a pdf?
[04:37] <djs_2_6> useruser - So, in spite of the other partitions, I still need a larger / ??
[04:37] <useruser> Khaaaaan: because acrobat 6.0 for linux now exists
[04:37] <useruser> Khaaaaan:  you could try that
[04:37] <rambo2981> 46+2 says only root can do that; i thought booting from the live cd would make me root
[04:37] <useruser> djs_2_6: oh, i dunno
[04:37] <gn0me> Lately I've been unable to change resolutions with ctrl+alt+plus or minus. Anyone else getting that?
[04:37] <useruser> djs_2_6: i was assuming you meant that / is full
[04:37] <Khaaaaan> useruser: Gotta pay thought correct?
[04:37] <fortysixand2> rambo2981: have you tried using sudo?
[04:37] <djs_2_6> useruser - It is, according to the resource manager
[04:37] <useruser> Khaaaaan: no, not for acrobat reader
[04:37] <void^> IdleOne: if you don't know where your fonts are, i suppose you could run find /usr -name "*ttf"
[04:37] <BlueHeron> whats the cmd to get out of a full screen app without closing it?
[04:37] <useruser> djs_2_6: well you should expand that then unless you want to do hairy tricks with mounting
[04:37] <TheMinion> when i try to load totem it tells me that it cannot load because the output device is in use by another program
[04:38] <rambo2981> no ... where can i find it? in the system dropdown?
[04:38] <Bowsa> hello
[04:38] <Bowsa> does anyone know what a skz file is for
[04:38] <punkrockguy318> found my own answer.. apt-cache showpkg
[04:38] <Kritical> Does anyone know a way to restore the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[04:38] <Khaaaaan> eh I am done here for now... later guys
[04:38] <_damian> how do i stop ubuntu from automatically configuring network settings at startup problem is im changing my dns settings in the network confog box (networking) and they work but opn startup ubuntu is detecting the wrong ones and resetting them
[04:38] <mc|amb> hi, can anyone tell me what is the plug-in gnomebaker needs to handle mp3s??
[04:39] <Khaaaaan> thanks for your help useruser :)
[04:39] <fortysixand2> rambo:  try adding sudo to the command I showed you, and enclose the original command in double quotes
[04:39] <green_earz> glick: thanks
[04:39] <fortysixand2> rambo2981: sudo goes at the beginning, btw
[04:39] <rambo2981> i found it
[04:40] <rambo2981> ok sudo mounted it; but i dont think it did it right; i entered
[04:40] <brenner> Bowsa: try 'file <filename>'
[04:40] <rambo2981> sudo mount /dev/hda1 -t ext3 /etc
[04:40] <nathanael> hello
[04:41] <Bowsa> brenner: do you know if liquid weather works with ubuntu
[04:41] <fortysixand2> rambo2981: try this  mkdir /mnt/disk
[04:41] <IdleOne> void^, ty
[04:41] <fortysixand2> rambo2981: then sudo "mount /dev/hda1 -t ext3 /mnt/disk"
[04:41] <rambo2981> sheesh; permission denied
[04:42] <fortysixand2> sudo mkdir /mnt/disk
[04:42] <newtoubuntu> hey can anyone recomend a dummy proof p2p for ubuntu
[04:42] <GigaClon> bit torrent
[04:42] <green_earz> fortysixand2: thanks i just been playing about with kate and fish in konqueror, looks intresting. it looks like fish for ssh can run direct from kate ?
[04:42] <rambo2981> uid 1000 does not exist in the passwd file
[04:42] <rambo2981> when i sudo mkdir /mnt/disk
[04:42] <Timeline> Hey everyone
[04:42] <fortysixand2> riiiiiiiiight.  hmmm
[04:42] <djs_2_6> Is there any way to forcibly unmount / so that I can resize it?
[04:42] <newtoubuntu> I've tried it and too many files don't have hosts, somthing more along the limewire line
[04:43] <brenner> Bowsa: no
[04:43] <IdleOne> I can only here Ubuntu sounds. cant here anything when using mplayer?
[04:43] <rambo2981> basically i forgot the root passwd and am trying to scrub it in /etc/shadow
[04:43] <fortysixand2> rambo2981: can you get to a root shell in the live cd?  "su -"
[04:44] <rambo2981> :) "sorry"
[04:44] <newtoubuntu> rambo: there is no root pass word in ubuntu type "sudo" and then your passeord
[04:44] <ian_> Would somebody be willing to help a n00b with formatting a HD?
[04:44] <fortysixand2> newtoubuntu: there is if you set one and then forget it
[04:44] <Pablo> I can prolly ian_
[04:44] <djs_2_6> ian_ - Install gparted, and the rest is easy...
[04:44] <rambo2981> i forgot ALL passwords!!! i installed it 2 months ago and finally have the the project i installed it for
[04:44] <rambo2981> like a moron i didnt write them down
[04:45] <newtoubuntu> I never got one I just use "sudo" whatever
[04:45] <Pablo> lol
[04:45] <mebeownsugah> WAZ up wvweybody
[04:45] <fortysixand2> rambo2981: so can you not get a root shell?
[04:45] <rambo2981> nope
[04:45] <fortysixand2> maybe try "sudo bash"
[04:45] <rambo2981> says "Sorry."
[04:45] <newtoubuntu> so any good p2ps
[04:45] <Pablo> try a boot disk and edit the /etc/shadow
[04:45] <rambo2981> same uid 1000 error
[04:45] <ian_> Pablo: Ok, here's the scenario...I have a 30G (I believe) HD that has a PW locked Darkstar Linux OS on it.  I was given the HD in a box with other stuff and it's time to wipe this drive and use it, or throw it away..
[04:45] <djs_2_6> useruser - Is it possible to unmount / forcibly to resize it?  If so, how?
[04:46] <niki> newtoubuntu, check out frostwire (limewire) and nicotine (slsk)
[04:46] <ian_> djs_2_6: I've Done so.
[04:46] <Cyorxamp> Ok folks - (deep end time) - I want to recompile my kernel - How?
[04:46] <newtoubuntu> frost wire I'm having troble intalling , what command do I use in the terminal
[04:46] <gn0me> Has anyone else been unable to change resolutions using the keyboard hotkeys?
[04:46] <fortysixand2> rambo2981: so sudo no longer works in the Live CD?  Have you rebooted and tried again?
[04:46] <niki> newtoubuntu, i got it from Automatix
[04:46] <nootrope> um... is Automatix a bad out-loud word around here?
[04:46] <rambo2981> i will
[04:47] <default06> For Gaia's sake, the questions it burns us!
[04:47] <newtoubuntu> what is automatix?
[04:47] <niki> automatix rocks
[04:47] <fortysixand2> sudo should work
[04:47] <Timeline> Is there a way I can SSH files directly to my var/www folder?
[04:47] <newtoubuntu> what does it do?
[04:47] <niki> newtoubuntu, its a program that installs a whole buncha crap for you in one shot...i run it when i first install
[04:47] <nootrope> does anyone know if Automatix creates a log during its run?
[04:47] <newtoubuntu> oh cool, good crap right, it doesn't bog down your system
[04:47] <brenner> gn0me: why would you anyway...i seem to just get a zoom in/out of the top left corner effect.  better to just use the randr gui tool
[04:47] <niki> newtoubuntu, things like codecs, p2ps, firefox plugins...
[04:48] <Syco54645> can anyone help me out with a case statement in bash.  i cannot figure out how to select ranges like 10 to 20
[04:48] <niki> newtoubuntu, it didn't bog down mine, just saved me a buncha time
[04:48] <nootrope> newtoubuntu: it downloads and instals a lot of extras...like multimedia apps
[04:48] <ian_> Pablo and Djs_2_6: I've installed Gparted, and when I open it up I see error message "The kernel is unable to re-read the partitiontables on the following devices:
[04:48] <ian_> - /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[04:48] <ian_> Because of this you will only have limited access to these devices.
[04:48] <ian_> Unmount all mounted partitions on a device to get full access."
[04:48] <newtoubuntu> nice i'll check it out thanx
[04:48] <default06> Ok people I'm not going to add to your misery, I'll just say that I think you are doing a terrific job by helping with ubuntu troubleshoting
[04:48] <gn0me> brenner: Because in the TwinView metamodes I can turn off one monitor and stuff, good for gaming. Just wondering why the hotkeys don't work.
[04:48] <knoppix> hey
[04:48] <default06> contratulations and off I go
[04:49] <IdleOne> can someone give me a little shove with sound issues? I can here ubuntu system sounds but nothing else
[04:49] <djs_2_6> ian_ - I personally, when I have a stubborn hard disk, I boot from an OBSD cd and run fdisk on it.  Nothing has failed so far...
[04:49] <knoppix> dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr bs=512 count=1 --it says /dev/sda device not found why?
[04:49] <useruser> djs_2_6: you could probably use the live cd to do it, assuming the partition tool is on it
[04:50] <djs_2_6> Hmm
[04:50] <ian_> djs_2_6: OBSD?
[04:50] <Timeline> Can anyone answer my question about SSH?
[04:50] <djs_2_6> ian_ - OpenBSD
[04:50] <ian_> djs_2_6: <--Is truly a Linux n00b...Don't know how to compile yet.  Still reading the readme....
[04:51] <green_earz> fortysixand2: the export html in kate is very handy. just been checking it out
[04:51] <ian_> djs_2_6 However I've had to use fdisk several times now in terminal (i think)
[04:51] <fortysixand2> yeah?
[04:51] <michael> I think my system is a little messed up, i followed the directions of something not to long ago about using an iPod.
[04:51] <knoppix> does anybody know how to dd?
[04:51] <michael> When I try to connect my iPod it loads in the /mnt directory
[04:51] <djs_2_6> ian_ - No compiling, just burn the base install on a cd and boot from it...
[04:51] <root> can someone tell me where i can edit the grub config file?
[04:52] <root> hello?
[04:52] <root> lag
[04:52] <riddlebox> what would cause one user to not be able to log in after a bunch of updates?
[04:52] <steven_laptop> hello all
[04:52] <root> hello
[04:52] <brenner> root: geeze, be patient
[04:52] <ian_> djs_2_6 Is there another way to do this?  My badwidth sucks... And I don't have anything to burn on (cdrs or diskettes).
[04:52] <brenner> root: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:52] <Jamsi> Anyone a evolution genius here
[04:52] <ian_> djs_2_6 <--Is poor as well as n00b.
[04:53] <root> thanks
[04:53] <niki> can someone help me?  when i run certain games, such as planetpenguin-racer, it runs rrrrrrrrrrreal slow...any ideas?
[04:53] <steven_laptop> 6.06 is nice
[04:54] <djs_2_6> ian_ - Go an find a disk tools disk from one of the hard drive manufacturers.  Their software is one disk you can boot from, and usually will kill most partitions...
[04:55] <jax0m> cmds.c:1071: error: label at end of compound statement
[04:55] <jax0m> make: *** [cmds.o]  Error 1
[04:55] <jax0m> any idea how i can fix this?
[04:55] <steven_laptop> niki: its got to do with you video or disply setting
[04:55] <jax0m> i'm missing some dev files but i'm not sure what
[04:55] <djs_2_6> ian_ - You should be able to find their images to download from the manufacturers sites.  Western Digital had a decent for a long time...
[04:55] <brenner> niki: is the game 3d?
[04:55] <ian_> djs_2_6 Is there a help file this ubotu can point me to for formatting?
[04:55] <niki> brenner, yes
[04:55] <ian_> !Format
[04:55] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ian_
[04:56] <ian_> !Format Hard drive
[04:56] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ian_
[04:56] <brenner> niki: have you set up your video drivers?
[04:56] <niki> brenner, no, how do i do this?
[04:57] <brendan_> ok im installign soe packages and i get,  Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?, what do i do to say yes?
[04:57] <Timeline> How can I SSH files to the /var/www folder?
[04:57] <brenner> niki: what card do you have?
[04:57] <Nameeater> does ubuntu have tho arts package?
[04:57] <neo911> what to do / organizer app do you use for ubuntu? i installed gtodo but it seems it doesnt save to file.
[04:58] <Timeline> brendan: type y and press enter
[04:58] <niki> brenner, i'm not really sure....my dad just gave me this computer
[04:58] <neo911> !windows vista
[04:58] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo911
[04:58] <neo911> !windows
[04:58] <ubotu> neo911: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:58] <brenner> niki: pastebin the output of 'lspci'
[04:59] <Jamsi> Timeline, umm .. yes. Using SCP
[04:59] <Jamsi> Prefered way is FTP ..
[04:59] <mary-kate> how do i set up virtual hosts in ubuntu, Breezy Badger? (or do i need some kind of software)
[04:59] <Timeline> what's SCP
[04:59] <Matty> secure ftp
[04:59] <fortunato> huh
[05:00] <ian_> Anyone know a good Walk-thru on formatting a HD for Ubuntu?
[05:00] <Timeline> NickGarvey told me to SSH/SFTP them to /home, but I want to put them directly into the var/www
[05:00] <fortunato> then do it
[05:00] <fortunato> goodbye
[05:00] <neo911> what to do / organizer app do you use for ubuntu? i installed gtodo but it seems it doesnt save to file.
[05:00] <brenner> ian_: you doing a dualboot system?
[05:00] <Timeline> it won't let ne
[05:00] <Jamsi> Timeline, is this your machine
[05:00] <Jamsi> Or someone elses
[05:00] <ian_> brenner Nope.  I just wiped (with help from here) my old XP dualboot HD.
[05:01] <Timeline> It won't let me SFTP anything into the /var/www
[05:01] <mary-kate> there should be somewhere on the ubuntu cd that says resize
[05:01] <Timeline> It's my web server
[05:01] <niki> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10955
[05:01] <ian_> brenner: I just want to wipe another hard drive for use with Ubuntu.
[05:01] <ian_> brenner One big empty space for storage...Make sense?
[05:01] <mary-kate> i wiped both my laptops for ubuntu
[05:01] <cubikdice> thats how we do it
[05:01] <cubikdice> linux gangstas
[05:01] <cubikdice> lol
[05:02] <niki> w0rd
[05:02] <neo911> mary-kate, :-)
[05:02] <neo911> hey anyone know a good to-do app/organizer for ubuntu?
[05:02] <brenner> ian_: you can format the drive when you install ubuntu
[05:02] <Timeline> So how do I change the permissions, or whatever, to allow me to SFTP into the /var/www
[05:02] <TheFaction20> hi...in the past few days i've been trying to get my external usb hard drive to function but it won't work
[05:03] <mary-kate> there's resize and erase
[05:03] <brendan_> what dp i do when it asks me this??:  Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[05:03] <mary-kate> i just pick erase hehe
[05:03] <Jamsi> Timeline, where are the files that you want to put in the /var/www
[05:03] <god> join ubuntu.cn
[05:03] <Jamsi> Are the files on another computer?
[05:03] <_jason> brendan_: if you want to continue, you press Y, if you don't, you press n
[05:03] <god> :join ubuntu.cn
[05:03] <_jason> brendan_: followed by enter
[05:03] <Cyorxamp> Ok folks sorry about this but this is the last time I'll be in here
[05:03] <mary-kate> do you want to continue?
[05:03] <sean> Timeline: You only need to sign in as a user that can access those files
[05:03] <mary-kate> if yes, press Y
[05:03] <Cyorxamp> I'm going back to windows - linux just is not ready
[05:03] <_jason> god: try with a /join #ubuntu.cn
[05:04] <sean> Timeline: Try logging in as wwwdata
[05:04] <god> thanks
[05:04] <brendan_> i do press y...and it aborts..
[05:04] <niki> Cyorxamp, quitters never win!
[05:04] <_jason> brendan_: capital Y maybe
[05:04] <ian_> brenner Do I want to install Ubuntu twice?  I'm running Ubuntu from my current (of 3) HD.  I have a second HD which I use as storage, and now I'd like to nuke my 3rd for the same purpose.
[05:04] <Timeline> Jamsi: Yes, I'm using winSCP
[05:04] <mary-kate> pardon me while i gag at windows, LOL
[05:04] <neo911> Cyorxamp, maybe you're not ready for linux
[05:04] <Jamsi> Timeline, if the files are on another computer (windows pc), download a program called WinSCP and login using the root account. Then you can drag/drop the files from local PC to your website
[05:04] <Cyorxamp> No Linux is not ready
[05:04] <TheFaction20> neo911:lol
[05:04] <Cyorxamp> I have my facts down to a T
[05:04] <niki> brenner, did you get that pastebin i posted?
[05:04] <Jamsi> Timeline, using winSCP, login using the root account
[05:04] <brendan_> tried both y n Y
[05:04] <Jamsi> Timeline, should fix all your problems :P
[05:05] <_jason> brendan_: what are you trying to do?
[05:05] <Timeline> Jamsi: Oh, I didn't know I could login as root with WinSCP
[05:05] <TheFaction20> cyorxamp: theres a "s" in facts so u dont have all of them
[05:05] <brenner> ian_: ah, i see.  in that case, just use a partitioning tool (the gparted livecd is nice apparently) to format it, then mount it in ubuntu
[05:05] <neo911> Cyorxamp, say that again and i will ban you on the intarweb
[05:05] <Timeline> Jamsi: Is that safe?
[05:05] <mary-kate> hey a while back, i WAS gonna come in and ask for help with installing wireless using ndiswrapper
[05:05] <mary-kate> but i found a webpage that took me through it using even pictures
[05:05] <ian_> brenner: I installed Gparted but I get an error when it loads...One sec and I'll have the error for you.
[05:05] <brendan_> install some packages, codec to be precise
[05:05] <Cyorxamp> It's cabability to use and configure drivers is just plain shite
[05:06] <Cyorxamp> *capability
[05:06] <brendan_> infact whatever i write..it aborts
[05:06] <niki> Cyorxamp, ok...see ya
[05:06] <brenner> brendan_: what packages? what codecs?
[05:06] <_jason> brendan_: pastsebin exactly what you are doing and the output please
[05:06] <Jamsi> Timeline, its your machine
[05:06] <neo911> i will tell my friends at the pentagon to ban you from the intarweb
[05:06] <Jamsi> Of course its safe as long as you don't start deleting things
[05:06] <niki> brenner, did you get that pastebin i posted?
[05:06] <brenner> ian_: don't bother, i'm not a gparted guy.
[05:07] <TheFaction20> can anyone help me with getting my usb external drive to work right?
[05:07] <neo911> so you cannot villify linux ever again
[05:07] <useruser> using the ubuntu live cd, is there a way to save my session data to restore on reboot?
[05:07] <Jamsi> Your SSH server "may" be configured not to accept root logins, but it should ..
[05:07] <Jamsi> If not, have a look through the sshd_config
[05:07] <brendan_>  sudo apt-get install mjpegtools
[05:07] <mary-kate> what's SSHJ?
[05:07] <mary-kate> SSH?
[05:07] <Jamsi> ..
[05:07] <brenner> niki: no, sorry, overlooked it.  my client's highlighting seems to have turned off.  post it again if you wish
[05:07] <Matty> useruser -- rather than use the liveCD -- may I suggest you goto VMWare.Com,and get the VMWare Player + the Ubuntu Virtual Machine?
[05:07] <ian_> brenner: Ok, is there another way for me to format this drive?  Just a clean nuke and mount?
[05:07] <Jamsi> mary-kate, leave .. now. :P
[05:07] <niki> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10955
[05:07] <brendan_> Need to get 850kB of archives.
[05:07] <brendan_>  After unpacking 2339kB of additional disk space will be used.
[05:07] <brendan_>  Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[05:07] <mary-kate> why
[05:08] <_jason> brendan_: it really should work with capital Y :/
[05:08] <mary-kate> is this how you treat people who wanna learn about ubuntu?
[05:08] <Jamsi> brendan_, press caps key, hit Y, press caps key
[05:08] <Jamsi> mary-kate, with a name like yours, I'm happy to help :)
[05:08] <TheFaction20> Matty, what do those things allow you to do?
[05:08] <brenner> niki: looking now
[05:08] <Jamsi> hmm .. olsen twins ..
[05:08] <alasdair> Good morning! :D
[05:08] <Jamsi> mornign!
[05:08] <mary-kate> why do i need to leave?
[05:09] <brenner> brendan_: you should be able to just press enter.  the capital Y means it's the default choice
[05:09] <Matty> TheFaction20 -- Allows you to run a full Ubuntu install from within a virtual machine, so that you can try it out/use without having to worry about procuring an actual hard drive/dual boot.
[05:09] <brenner> not to press capital Y
[05:09] <CreatureOfLegend> Hello. It's me again. Question: does the command: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 make the computer connect to the internet to install the headers thing?
[05:09] <brendan_> nope and nope.
[05:09] <neo911> CreatureOfLegend, it's not headers thing... it's headers thingy
[05:10] <CreatureOfLegend> Ok ^_^ headers thingy
[05:10] <ian_> brenner ?
[05:10] <TheFaction20> Matty:how much ram do they use up when ur running it?
[05:10] <Matty> TheFaction20 - you can spec what you want.
[05:10] <Jamsi> mary-kate, just kidding. How can I help you?
[05:10] <brenner> niki: you've got an ati card: install instructions here:
[05:10] <brenner> [14:10]  *** Now talking to ubotu
[05:10] <brenner> [14:10]  <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:10] <brenner> [14:10]  ubotu is n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au Ubuntu Bot
[05:10] <brenner> [14:10]  ubotu on #ubuntu
[05:10] <brenner> [14:10]  ubotu using irc.freenode.net http://freenode.net/
[05:10] <zerocool> hi everyone :-)
[05:10] <Matty> I wouldn't suggest less than 256...512 as a minimum
[05:10] <brenner> [14:10]  ubotu is identified to services
[05:10] <brenner> crap
[05:10] <brenner> sorry guys
[05:11] <CreatureOfLegend> neo911: because I've got a whole bunch of errors that says no such file or directory and list URLs like http://security.ubuntu.com or us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <niki> brendan_, thx :)
[05:11] <CreatureOfLegend> Does that mean it's connecting to the net?
[05:11] <mary-kate> i wanna learn how to set my own virtual host in Breezy Badger, but don't know how
[05:11] <niki> oops
[05:11] <niki> brenner, thx :)
[05:11] <brenner> ian_: that's what i was saying to do.  format the drive and then just mount it
[05:11] <Drac[Server] > Okay, I need to make sure a user can't edit its own settings. How can I do this?
[05:11] <Timeline> Jamsi: It's asking for session password, but I never set a password on the /
[05:12] <khanman02> anyone know of a file manager that lets me see where most of my dada is being stored, my hd is full and i don't know where
[05:12] <ian_> brenner: Right, I need somebody to walk me thru this...I'm a total n00b to linux, but I love it already.
[05:12] <Atomsk> does anyone have any suggestions for hard disk cloning?
[05:12] <riddlebox> what would cause one user to not be able to log in after a bunch of updates?
[05:12] <Matty> Atomsk -- Norton Ghost
[05:12] <khanman02> i saw this one which had a 3d pie chart of which your largest directories had the largest portion, something like that would be nice...
[05:12] <Atomsk> Matty: hmmm...I'd like something free :)
[05:13] <bvrael> DCC SEND "JIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADIJIHADI" 0 0 0
[05:13] <Matty> Atomsk -- Sorry. Can't really help with that :)
[05:13] <Matty> lol
[05:13] <CreatureOfLegend> Question: does the command: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 make the computer connect to the internet to install the headers thing?
[05:13] <Matty> stupid NAV
[05:13] <NickGarvey> !apt
[05:13] <ubotu> from memory, apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[05:13] <brenner> niki: the easiest method for you would be to use seveas' repos method i would think.  i doubt the driver version in the repos would work for you
[05:14] <GNU_Style> NickGarvey, hello, my linux hdd failed
[05:14] <niki> brenner, you kinda lost me....
[05:14] <Jamsi> Timeline, set a root password then..
[05:15] <Jamsi> passwd root
[05:15] <Jamsi> I think.
[05:15] <Timeline> ok
[05:15] <Jamsi> Yeah
[05:15] <batman> can someone please tell me where the x.session fluxbox would be at?
[05:15] <CreatureOfLegend> ubotu: it says it installs a new file but it does not say if it connects to the internet to do it.  Does it necessarily connect to the internet?
[05:15] <ubotu> CreatureOfLegend: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:15] <NickGarvey> GNU_Style: what do you mean failed?
[05:16] <brenner> niki: hang on, do you have a 64bit cpu?
[05:16] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: unless you have the CD in, yes it connects to the internet
[05:16] <niki> brenner, not sure, how can i check?
[05:16] <CreatureOfLegend> NickGarvey: I do have the cd in. Is there anyway to tell it to go to the CD instaed of the internet?
[05:16] <brenner> niki: cat /proc/cpuinfo and just tell us the cpu name
[05:16] <Timeline> Hi NickGarvey
[05:17] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: check /etc/apt/sources
[05:17] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: check /etc/apt/sources.lst or something
[05:17] <NickGarvey> hello Timeline
[05:17] <niki> brenner, Pentium III (Coppermine)
[05:17] <Jamsi> CreatureOfLegend, delete everything in /etc/apt/sources then type "apt-setup" and choose CD rom. follow the instructions.
[05:18] <brenner> niki: ok.  i've just re-read your lspci output.  you have a radeon 7000 it seems.  i don't think your card is supported by fglrx
[05:18] <brenner> can someone confirm this?
[05:18] <ian_> <--needs help formatting a HD without Gparted please.
[05:18] <niki> brenner, ok...so what should i do then?
[05:18] <ian_> <--Is a n00b and would like somebody to guide him thru it.
[05:18] <mary-kate> <--wants to create a virtual host in ubuntu for IRC such as freenode or undernet
[05:18] <NickGarvey> ian_: without gparted?
[05:19] <Timeline> Jamsi: It's still not taking the password through SCP
[05:19] <Matty> ian -- http://bootdisk.com/
[05:19] <Jamsi> Timeline, what does it say?
[05:19] <ian_> NickGarvey: Yeah, I get a wierd error when I load gparted...
[05:19] <CreatureOfLegend> Jamsi: /etc/apt/sources.list is a text file. Should I leave the file there and make it empty, or should I delete the file itself? (there is no sources directory that I can see in /etc/apt)
[05:19] <Timeline> I changed the password ok, but winSCP just keeps reopening the password box
[05:19] <Jamsi> CreatureOfLegend, make the text file empty
[05:19] <CreatureOfLegend> ok
[05:19] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: I'd back it up before you do any of those things
[05:19] <mary-kate> this channel is going a little quick
[05:20] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: move sources sources_bak
[05:20] <Timeline> do I type / or root as the username?
[05:20] <ian_> NickGarvey: The kernel is unable to re-read the partitiontables on the following devices:
[05:20] <ian_> - /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[05:20] <ian_> Because of this you will only have limited access to these devices.
[05:20] <ian_> Unmount all mounted partitions on a device to get full access.
[05:20] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: mv* not move
[05:20] <NickGarvey> !paste
[05:20] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[05:20] <Jamsi> mary-kate, yep. Get used to it :)
[05:20] <Jamsi> Timeline, "root" as the username
[05:20] <Jamsi> Without quotes ..
[05:20] <NickGarvey> then touch sources
[05:20] <brenner> niki: i suggest searching for radeon 7000 at ubuntuforums.org
[05:20] <niki> brenner, ok, thanks :)
[05:20] <NickGarvey> ian_: unmount it
[05:21] <ian_> NickGarvey: How? ;)
[05:21] <dydimustk> is there an ubuntu-security channel?
[05:21] <Timeline> Jamsi: That got me in
[05:21] <niki> anyone else seeing these same few user names log in and out of the channel?
[05:21] <Jamsi> Timeline, glad to hear it.
[05:22] <Jamsi> Yep niki
[05:22] <msanders> probably that gay dcc exploit
[05:22] <Jamsi> Can we get them banned?
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[05:22] <trogg> DID IT LOL    
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[05:22] <trogg>          
[05:22] <_jason> !ops
[05:22] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[05:22] <Eleaf> muh
[05:23] <ian_> What's going on?
[05:23] <niki> god someone do something
[05:23] <niki> about these lamers
[05:23] <ian_> Assault on channel?
[05:23] <NickGarvey> ian_: kill x and use umount
[05:23] <msanders> probably another channel they're in
[05:23] <niki> ian_, looks like it, huh? :)
[05:23] <Amaranth> niki: Like what? Track them down and kill them?
[05:23] <niki> Amaranth, i was more thinking someone could alert the ops :P
[05:23] <brenner> heh. i missed it
[05:24] <Amaranth> pra5ad: Fix your router.
[05:24] <ian_> NickGarvey: Where can I find an explicit (for absolute n00bs) explanation of that instruction?
[05:24] <Amaranth> winXperts: Fix your router.
[05:24] <steven_laptop> anyone on 6.06 with vmware loaded?
[05:24] <gamester|> lol  DCC CHAT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS WWW.JEWSDIDWTC.COM NOW!
[05:24] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[05:24] <Rug> Howdy all
[05:24] <j-linux> My ThinkPad is configured with two hard drives... There is a 40GB drive (sda1) with Windows in the main hard drive slot, and a 60GB Ubuntu drive on sdb1.  Ironically I can access my Linux drive while inside windows but not my windows drive from linux.  I tried sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 and that works, but if I try to "cd" into /mnt/sda1 it tells me that I don't have enough permissions... any ideas?
[05:24] <NickGarvey> !umount
[05:24] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[05:24] <jax0m> lol
[05:25] <msanders> wtf.
[05:25] <Amaranth> Ubugtu: Dude, start working.
[05:25] <msanders> i took offense in that
[05:25] <msanders> i'm jewish
[05:25] <Matty> steven_laptop -- I'm running 6.06 in VMware...does that count? :)
[05:25] <CreatureOfLegend> Ok, I did that. then I typed apt-setup but now it says it can't find the cd rom. How can this be when I installed the OS via CD rom?
[05:25] <TheFaction20> Can someone help me with my external drive that likes to play hide and seek?
[05:25] <_jason> Amaranth: he only works with ``send'' not ``chat'' apparently
[05:25] <NickGarvey> ian_: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/umount.htm
[05:25] <Amaranth> ok, that's enough of that
[05:25] <BlueHeron> what can i use on ubuntu so that i can use my nyko gamepad
[05:25] <BlueHeron> ?
[05:25] <Timeline> What is the proper way to shut down a ubuntu box? Do I need to type any commands, or can I just hit the switch?
[05:25] <Amaranth> when they ask to get back in tell them to fix their router first
[05:26] <BlueHeron> Timeline: sudo shutdown now  -- use that
[05:26] <unity> !info openoffieg.org
[05:26] <sean> Does this channel always get flodded with spammers such as that?
[05:26] <steven_laptop> Matty: im trying figure out y vmware wont loaded and if someone else has had this problem
[05:26] <BlueHeron> sean: some times
[05:26] <CreatureOfLegend> the cd rom is even mounted and I can see its contents in the file browser
[05:26] <brenner> j-linux, check out the fstab section here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:26] <Matty> steven_laptop -- won't install or won't run?
[05:26] <steven_laptop> wont run
[05:26] <niki> ty ops
[05:26] <Timeline> BlueHeron Thanks
[05:26] <j-linux> brenner: thanks I will read that.
[05:26] <unity> !info openoffice.org
[05:27] <ubotu> openoffice.org: (high-quality office productivity suite), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 1.1.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6707 kB, Installed size: 28920 kB
[05:27] <steven_laptop> Matty: it locks this thing up
[05:27] <NickGarvey> whats the difference between halt and shutdown?
[05:28] <Matty> steven_laptop - ew...checked the logs?
[05:28] <ian_> NickGarvey: Thank you.  I'll log back in if I need addition assistance.
[05:28] <NickGarvey> okie
[05:28] <NickGarvey> good luck
[05:28] <steven_laptop> I did kernal locks up
[05:28] <brenner> niki: this one might be useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135052
[05:29] <j-linux> brenner: it's not a partition.. it's a separate hard drive.  I don't understand... I can mount it... the windows drive is already mounted.  I just can't "cd" into it because it says I don't have permissions.
[05:29] <Matty> steven_laptop -- hrm...lemme try to install, gimme a minute
[05:29] <niki> brenner, thanks, will read it now
[05:29] <j-linux> I can "sudo nautilus" and get into it, but that makes errors in nautilus
[05:29] <thegladiator> what command do you give when ur installation terminated halfway ? some dpkg -configure -a  command ?
[05:29] <nalioth> sean: misguided folks love to get their points across in highly populated channels
[05:29] <thegladiator> I forget the exact command though
[05:29] <brenner> j-linux: that's the thing.  it might be mounted with the wrong permissions.  so edit fstab so that it's accessible to you
[05:30] <j-linux> brenner: ok... I'll check that out... thanks
[05:31] <thegladiator> please someone?
[05:31] <slythergirl> hello
[05:31] <thegladiator> dpkg-reconfigure-a or somthing like that
[05:32] <thegladiator> I cant recollect it
[05:32] <_jason> thegladiator: man dpkg probably has it
[05:32] <slythergirl> what?
[05:32] <j-linux> brenner: my fstab says /dev/sda1, type ext3 (it's ntfs).  Is that something I should change?
[05:32] <thegladiator> yep
[05:32] <imc1> Anyone else running a Verizon EVDO card under Ubuntu?
[05:33] <khanman02> hello
[05:33] <brenner> j-linux: if it's ntfs then yeah, probably
[05:33] <j-linux> I'm going to backup fstab and make some changes to sda1 (the windows partition).  :S  hope this works..
[05:33] <niki> brenner, where is the xorg.conf file i have to edit?
[05:33] <brenner> niki: /etc/X11/
[05:33] <Matty> steven_laptop -- this is GSX Server, right?
[05:34] <imc1>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[05:34] <brenner> niki: you can use locate <filename>
[05:34] <niki> brenner, ah, ok, thx
[05:34] <PseudoPlacebo> Have any of you read Ender's Game & Speaker for the Dead?
[05:34] <steven_laptop> Matty: 5.5 workstation
[05:34] <BlueHeron> what can i use on ubuntu so that i can use my nyko gamepad
[05:34] <unity> does anyone know if there is a way to extract all the text, not the formatting, from an ooffice 1.1.5 document, without ooffice?
[05:34] <Matty> ohhhhh
[05:35] <Matty> heh
[05:35] <Matty> I don't have a linux version of workstation, sorry
[05:35] <steven_laptop> :)\
[05:35] <unL33Tn00b> What is the command in terminal to list all drives?
[05:35] <j-linux> What does it mean if my fstab does not match the partition names (sda1, etc) in fdisk -l?
[05:36] <brenner> j-linux: pastebin both
[05:36] <j-linux> unL33Tn00b: sudo fdisk -
[05:36] <j-linux> sorry... sudo fdisk -l
[05:36] <j-linux> (letter L, lowercase)
[05:37] <dle> What is the Ubuntu webpage that mentions the decision re the delay of dapper?
[05:38] <_jason> !dapper
[05:38] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:38] <unL33Tn00b> j-linux, Says unable to open?
[05:38] <TheFaction20> What are some good lunux books you guys would reccomend
[05:38] <NickGarvey> TheFaction20: O'Reilly is usually pretty good
[05:38] <j-linux> brenner: http://pastebin.com/626309
[05:38] <CreatureOfLegend> Ok the installation seemed to go well. Thank you all!  BUt I have one more question: I'm doing the pppconfig thing and it asks whether I want to use a static or dynamic DNS (or none). I'm not sure which to choose. I'm connecting dialup to an internet provider, Which should I choose?
[05:38] <j-linux> unL33Tn00b: what did you type?
[05:39] <unL33Tn00b> j-linx sudo fdisk -
[05:39] <j-linux> sudo fdisk -l
[05:39] <j-linux> (letter L, but lowercase
[05:39] <unL33Tn00b> ahh
[05:39] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: I'd do dynamic
[05:39] <CreatureOfLegend> Ok.
[05:39] <dle> thanks, _jason.
[05:40] <j-linux> unL33Tn00b: also do $ man fdisk
[05:40] <CreatureOfLegend> NickGarvey: what about the authontication method?  It says either PAP, Chat or CHAP.
[05:40] <brenner> j-linux: pastebin mount's output too
[05:41] <j-linux> brenner: ok,,, just a sec
[05:41] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: and thats where you lost me
[05:41] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: not a dial up person, who is your ISP?
[05:41] <CreatureOfLegend> NickGarvey: It's Highstream
[05:41] <michael> hey peeps, i got my laptop working with my jukebox... now i need to get my ipod working on it... I tried a few command line things to get it to work b4 i realised it's nearly plug and play... When I attatch my iPod it shows up in /mnt instead of /media
[05:42] <michael> and none of my progs read/write to it descent enough to work
[05:42] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: use pap or chat
[05:42] <j-linux> brenner: http://pastebin.com/626317
[05:42] <NickGarvey> chap***
[05:42] <CreatureOfLegend> Ok.
[05:42] <NickGarvey> I wolud use CHAP though
[05:42] <brenner> j-linux: no, just type 'mount'
[05:42] <mike1> lo
[05:42] <j-linux> ok
[05:42] <NickGarvey> CreatureOfLegend: http://www.highstream.net/support/linux.asp
[05:43] <mike1> hey how do I get rid of my XP partition?
[05:43] <j-linux> brenner: http://pastebin.com/626317
[05:43] <CreatureOfLegend> NickGarvey: Oh wow! Thanks!! ^_^
[05:43] <NickGarvey> hmm..
[05:43] <NickGarvey> mike1: just format it
[05:43] <NickGarvey> mike1: use like qtparted or something
[05:44] <cerebrix> anyone here gone thru the cleartype-like fonts faq located at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976&page=1&pp=10
[05:45] <brenner> j-linux: er, why has your NTFS partition been mounted as / ?
[05:45] <j-linux> I don't know
[05:46] <j-linux> brenner: my hard drives are strange.. it's a thinkpad.  The windows drive is in the main hard drive slot.  The linux one is in the ultrabay -- an adapter that sits where a CD drive normally would.  I don't have a cd drive
[05:46] <unL33Tn00b> Would somebody be willing to look at http://pastebin.com/626321 and tell me if they see a 30g HD in the list?
[05:46] <j-linux> brenner: I would have kept ubuntu in the main hard drive slot, but windows would not run from the ultrabay... so the ultrabay is my main os, and the regular hard drive slot is for windows.
[05:46] <NickGarvey> mm nope
[05:46] <NickGarvey> let me double check though unL33Tn00b
[05:47] <brenner> j-linux: well, all i'm gonna say is that afaik, fstab should match fdisk.
[05:47] <NickGarvey> nope, I see a 8.5 gig and a 9.5 gig
[05:47] <j-linux> brenner: yeah... looks strange.  Maybe for now I will just reboot into windows to get my files and then go back to linux... :S
[05:47] <NickGarvey> 9.4*
[05:47] <unL33Tn00b> NickGarvey: I should have 2 8-10Gb HD's with Ubuntu and one and nothing much on the other. It should be formatted for Ubuntu to use though....
[05:47] <Jamsi> unL33Tn00b,  .. no
[05:48] <j-linux> I would hate to accidentally destroy my ntfs partition.
[05:48] <NickGarvey> unL33Tn00b: its not finding it
[05:48] <unL33Tn00b> NickGarvey: Ok, well, it be physically connected to my 'puter, but I can't get Ubuntu to see it...
[05:48] <NickGarvey> unL33Tn00b: does your BIOS see it?
[05:48] <unL33Tn00b> NickGarvey Yep...
[05:48] <brenner> j-linux: good idea
[05:48] <NickGarvey> unL33Tn00b: IDE channel 2 master?
[05:49] <j-linux> brenner: thanks for your help... i will read up on fstab later and try to figure something out :S
[05:49] <unL33Tn00b> NickGarvey: I have no idea what you just said. :)
[05:49] <NickGarvey> unL33Tn00b: oh well its not on the same cable as the other 2 hard drives right?
[05:49] <NickGarvey> unL33Tn00b: and you know your BIOS sees it?
[05:50] <NickGarvey> unL33Tn00b: like what makes you say it sees it
[05:50] <cerebrix> anyone here gone thru the cleartype-like fonts faq located at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976&page=1&pp=10
[05:50] <unL33Tn00b> nickgarvey Correct. It's where my second CD Drive used to be.  I have Yamaha CD Burner connected as well.
[05:50] <NickGarvey> unL33Tn00b: heh same thing I did
[05:50] <NickGarvey> !lspci
[05:50] <ubotu> NickGarvey: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:51] <NickGarvey> hmm, have you tried a boot cd?
[05:51] <unL33Tn00b> NickGarvey In BIOS it shows a second Maxtor HD.  I have One Maxtor ~10G, One Quantum Bigfoot HD (also~10G), and this new Maxtor (30G?) I just connected.
[05:52] <unL33Tn00b> NickGarvey Oh, and my Yamaha CD Burner...
[05:52] <NickGarvey> should be 3rd on the list? 4th?
[05:52] <unL33Tn00b> NickGarvey I diconned my cd drive (nonburner) so I could fit the 30G HD in there...
[05:53] <arrick> NickGarvey: I finally gave up and put ubuntu on my laptop, and put XP PRo back on my server for the print server
[05:53] <NickGarvey> what is the hard drive jumper set to
[05:53] <Mythril> when I run 'ifup eth0'  I get the following error: sit0 unknown hardware address type 776
[05:53] <NickGarvey> arrick: you were working on samba?
[05:53] <lubo> hello, can anyone help me please with my internet connection problem?
[05:53] <arrick> now how do I get my Belkin wirelessG card going?
[05:53] <arrick> yes
[05:53] <CreatureOfLegend> Oh dear. I think I configured it ok. What do I type to connect to the internet?  The guide says pon or poff, but I type it and nothing happens, no error message except only when I typed it for the very first time, it said "No pppd is running. None stopped."  Now when I type it in just gives me another prompt line and no errors.
[05:53] <NickGarvey> lubo: whats not working?
[05:53] <unL33Tn00b> NickGarvey: Ack, I'd have to shutdown to check...
[05:53] <NickGarvey> unL33Tn00b: eh not that important
[05:53] <unL33Tn00b> NickGravey: I have a FrankenBox. ;)
[05:54] <NickGarvey> unL33Tn00b: I'd try a boot CD and see if it sees it
[05:54] <lubo> internet coneection was working no problem... I got new route dsl-g604t
[05:54] <NickGarvey> I need to make up on some sleep though
[05:54] <lubo> now the problem is the internet is very slow... slow response
[05:54] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to burn .daa files under linux ?
[05:54] <unL33Tn00b> NickGarvey I have My Breezy CD Handy...Plug it in and...?
[05:54] <arrick> NickGarvey: you mean you sleep?
[05:54] <lubo> connection is working but is not as it should
[05:55] <NickGarvey> arrick: every so often, not much last night though, 1 and a half hours
[05:55] <arrick> !wireleee
[05:55] <ubotu> arrick: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:55] <arrick> me too
[05:55] <arrick> !wireless
[05:55] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:55] <shadeofgrey> where do i go to get the latest build of dapper?
[05:55] <brendan_> hey what windows emulators are good for trying to run games?
[05:55] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[05:55] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:55] <unL33Tn00b> ;ubo Check net settings, under DNS delete IP starting with 168...
[05:55] <NickGarvey> !upgrade
[05:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[05:55] <lubo> for exmaple I'm using this connection for this IRC however I'm not able to go to www.google.com
[05:55] <lubo> :-))
[05:56] <logical_mark> Hey guys I think I made a VERY amature mistake. I was playing around and typed "sudo chown -R (myusername) /etc" and now I can't run anything sudo b/c it says it is owned by my userid and not root's.
[05:56] <lubo> I have dapper now:-)
[05:56] <NickGarvey> lubo: set your connection to static
[05:56] <lubo> nick I did that...
[05:56] <logical_mark> This is what appears now when I try and fix it: mark@1024Mark:~$ sudo chown -R root /etc
[05:56] <logical_mark> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0
[05:56] <NickGarvey> still no google?
[05:56] <lubo> some pages are working some dont
[05:56] <logical_mark> Can someone help?
[05:56] <lubo> no !!
[05:56] <NickGarvey> lubo: odd.. try to ping it
[05:57] <lubo> I tryied roter with windows machine and no problems..
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> logical_mark,  time to boot to single user mode, or use a live cd.
[05:57] <logical_mark> Dr_Willis, what does that mean. Where do I go from there?
[05:57] <lubo> 64 bytes from www.google.com (66.102.7.147): icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=181 ms
[05:57] <lubo> ping works..
[05:57] <lubo> this is really strange..
[05:57] <NickGarvey> lubo: um try refreshing?
[05:57] <NickGarvey> lubo: realllly should be working
[05:57] <lubo> it seems like something else is in the middle
[05:58] <NickGarvey> lubo: can you plug your linux machine directly to the internet? no router?
[05:58] <lubo> I get this error :- The server at gmail.google.com is taking too long to respond.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> logical_mark,  you 'some how' get to the /etc/ dir from a live cd/single user mode and use the correct chmod command to set things back
[05:58] <NickGarvey> lubo: just for trouble shooting purposes
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> logical_mark,  r--r----- 1 root root 403 2006-03-26 14:12 sudoers  - is the permissions needed on suders file
[05:59] <lubo> Nick: the router workis with windows no problem..
[05:59] <arrick> How to install Belkin Wireless G model F5D7010?
[05:59] <arrick> on ubunt
[05:59] <arrick> ubuntu
[05:59] <NickGarvey> lubo: yeah, but if that works then we know its the router, if it doesn't then we know its not
[05:59] <robertj> how do you remove a file named "-i"?
[06:00] <NickGarvey> robertj: rm "-i"
[06:00] <Dr_Willis>  rm '-i'
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> or rm -- -i
[06:00] <robertj> Dr_Willis: got it, the other doesn't work ;)
[06:00] <lubo> I can try to use other router and get external IP to my comp... is that what you want me to try?
[06:00] <NickGarvey> heh that would be mean to make a bunch of files named --help all over someones system
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> robertj,  it should.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:01] <robertj> Dr: it doesn't
[06:01] <robertj> see the latest post on p.gnome.org
[06:01] <_jason> Dr_Willis: nope, never worked for me either
[06:01] <lubo> also as you can see this chat is working no problem as well:-))
[06:01] <NickGarvey> lubo: mm I need to sleep tonight
[06:01] <NickGarvey> lubo: not sure whats not working.. someone else might be able to help
[06:01] <jetscreamer> lies
[06:01] <NickGarvey> night guys
[06:01] <jetscreamer> sleep when you're dead
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> _jason,  somthings odd then. I found a site that mentioned all the methods like that.
[06:01] <michael> I have a question - if m4a is supposed to be a better format... why is it that ripping to m4a produces better quality after converting to mp3  -  not a question, just a rant
[06:01] <lubo> thanks anyway
[06:01] <jetscreamer> wuss!
[06:02] <_jason> Dr_Willis: is there a way to escape the -, the -- method is the only thing I know that works
[06:02] <lubo> anyone else with good knowledge who can help me fix this problem with internet connection? please
[06:02] <Cyorxamp> Will 2.6.13 kernel (or later) be available in the repo's for Breezy Badger?  if so any ideas on when?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> _jason,  heh - i was thinking the quotes worked.. heck  touch '-foo' and "-foo" dont work either
[06:03] <_jason> Dr_Willis: ha yeah
[06:03] <_jason> Dr_Willis: I suppose one way, would be with the inode
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> touch '"-foo"'
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> :P now i got a file with Quotes in the name! :P
[06:03] <symlink> where can i find the release schedule for ubuntu
[06:04] <_jason> Dr_Willis: rm ./-i works :)
[06:04] <ushiro> i have a proble with ubuntu. When I try to enter the graphic mode, there appear lines all over the screen. Any idea why this happen
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> the -- method seems to be the most reliable
[06:04] <arrick> Help, according to 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards' my wireless card is set to go out of the box on installed system, how do I turn it one?
[06:05] <bimberi> symlink: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[06:05] <michael> so, whats a good prog to rip cds to mp3
[06:05] <Jamsi> michael, theres one that comes with ubuntu
[06:05] <brenner> ushiro: try reconfigging xorg
[06:05] <Jamsi> Standard install, forget the name.
[06:05] <symlink> bimberi, thank you
[06:05] <brenner> ubotu: tell ushiro about xorg
[06:05] <bimberi> symlink: np :)
[06:06] <ushiro> benner, but which might be the problem?
[06:06] <michael> Jamsi, is it a CL proggy or w/ GUI
[06:06] <arrick> brenner, good evening
[06:06] <arrick> how are you tonight?
[06:06] <ushiro> brenner, but which might be the problem?
[06:06] <brenner> arrick: afternoon.  sorry to hear you gave up on the server
[06:07] <brenner> ushiro: guessing it's a display issue
[06:07] <arrick> I'm doing better, thats fine, I decided to run it on my laptop instead, and run the printer on xp
[06:07] <Cyorxamp> Will 2.6.13 kernel (or later) be available in the repo's for Breezy Badger?  if so any ideas on when?
[06:07] <ushiro> brenner, how can I configure the xorg again
[06:07] <crimsun> Cyorxamp: no, so no.
[06:07] <arrick> running ubuntu on something I can actually have go fast
[06:07] <brenner> ushiro: check your msgs
[06:08] <Cyorxamp> crimsun - what!?
[06:08] <Cyorxamp> 'updates for up to 18 months' - and none of those updates is a newer kernel?
[06:09] <crimsun> Cyorxamp: what what? It's a frozen distro. Only security updates and major no-brainer updates are applied. A newer kernel version fits neither category.
[06:09] <bimberi> Cyorxamp: *security* updates
[06:09] <Cyorxamp> :(
[06:09] <Cyorxamp> So I gotta wait for dapper?
[06:10] <liable> no, you can compile any kernel you want..
[06:10] <Cyorxamp> But I don't know how!
[06:10] <Cyorxamp> If only there was a nice guide out there
[06:10] <crimsun> there is called 'kernel-package'
[06:10] <FunnyHat> Anyone here setup grub to dual boot linux and OS X?
[06:10] <crimsun> besides, you could always help test current Dapper
[06:10] <liable> if only there was a search engine out there..
[06:10] <Cyorxamp> crimsun - so your saying just go to the repo's?
[06:10] <frank23> Cyorxamp: if you actually a need of one of the new features, sure you can do it but I doubt that's the case
[06:10] <bimberi> !kernelcompile
[06:10] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[06:11] <Cyorxamp> frank23 - I do need one of the new features
[06:11] <Cyorxamp> 2.6.13 has something 2.6.12 does not
[06:12] <frank23> Cyorxamp: what? maybe you can just grab the dapper kernel. not sure if it's as easy as that though
[06:12] <Gaturro> I need help!!!
[06:12] <Gaturro> Can anybody help me?
[06:12] <Jamsi> FunnyHat, OS X .. eek
[06:12] <Jamsi> Gaturro, whats up?
[06:12] <Gaturro> well, I've this ubuntu copy
[06:13] <Gaturro> that i'm trying to install
[06:13] <Gaturro> but i'm having some problems
[06:13] <Gaturro> :(
[06:13] <Jamsi> Like?
[06:13] <Gaturro> well
[06:13] <Gaturro> i have an old computer
[06:14] <Gaturro> which doesn't support cd boot
[06:14] <Gaturro> and i know i need to boot from floppy
[06:14] <frank23> Gaturro: ouch that must be pretty damn old ;)
[06:14] <Jamsi> Gaturro, hmm. That mind be tricky
[06:14] <signature16> is ubuntu good for both desktop, game server and web server use?
[06:14] <Jamsi> might*
[06:14] <Gaturro> with a SBM prog that is in the ubuntu cd
[06:15] <Gaturro> yeap., it's pretty old. pentium 60 mhz
[06:15] <Gaturro> :P
[06:15] <Jamsi> signature16, server use you may prefer to go with something like freebsd or debian.
[06:15] <Cyorxamp> OK... What is the dapper repo address I can add to synaptic to get the dapper kernel?
[06:15] <brenner> heh
[06:15] <Jamsi> Gaturro, I once installed debian on p90 laptop with 16meg of ram
[06:15] <frank23> Gaturro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation?highlight=%28installation%29
[06:15] <Jamsi> Using 14 floppy disks.
[06:15] <Gaturro> jo jooooooooo jo
[06:15] <Gaturro> risky
[06:16] <Gaturro> i used to install win 95 with 12 flops
[06:16] <Gaturro> :P
[06:16] <signature16> does ubuntu have support for XGL? and is it stable?
[06:16] <Gaturro> or were 14? anyway
[06:16] <void^> os/2warp had, what, 30+ floppies?
[06:16] <_divan_> hello everybody
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> signature16,  its a work in progresss.. and its not stable anywhere. :P
[06:16] <Gaturro> well, i have an image of this sbm program
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> signature16,  dapper has support for it.. (sort of)
[06:16] <brenner> ubotu: tell signature16 about xgl
[06:17] <Gaturro> but i cannot use it. i don't have linux in any of mi pc0s
[06:17] <frank23> Cyorxamp: note that I don't actually know if this will work.   just change the sources.list lines  from breezy to dapper.   install the kernel (make sure you don't upgrade the whole system) and revert to the old sources.list
[06:17] <Gaturro> any idea?
[06:17] <brenner> Gaturro: what's sbm?
[06:17] <Gaturro> Smart Boot Program
[06:17] <signature16> is ubuntu based of debian?
[06:18] <Gaturro> let's boot from cd in old machines
[06:18] <brenner> ah
[06:18] <bimberi> signature16: yes - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> signature16,  you may want to  read their web site. :P
[06:18] <Gaturro> brenner, brenner
[06:18] <Gaturro> ingenieria?
[06:18] <_divan_> Does anybody know how to solve a problem with hotplug in Ubuntu 5.10?
[06:18] <frank23> Gaturro: maybe this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[06:18] <Gaturro> jamsi
[06:18] <Gaturro> mmm, don't know
[06:18] <bbrown> I am trying to figure this out:
[06:18] <bbrown> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151446
[06:19] <bbrown> my question, when I install 5.10, I specify a 386 kernel
[06:19] <bbrown> at the install prompt
[06:19] <Gaturro> daniel brenner?
[06:20] <brenner> Gaturro: i've got no idea what you're on about
[06:20] <michael> good night all of you loving birdies (no pun intended)
[06:20] <Gaturro> ok
[06:20] <Gaturro> nevermind
[06:20] <frank23> bbrown: what kernel are you using in i386?
[06:21] <frank23> bbrown: what kernel are you using in ubuntu 5.04 sorry
[06:21] <bbrown> frank23: I dont know, whatever the default is.  that is my question, how can I specify at the 'boot:' prompt
[06:22] <bbrown> specify what kernel
[06:22] <Jamsi> Gaturro, can't help sorry
[06:22] <frank23> bbrown: I don't think you have a choice i386 is probably the only kernel on the install cd anyways
[06:22] <bbrown> frank23: shoot, I will try dapper and see if that works
[06:23] <Gaturro> doesn't matter
[06:23] <frank23> bbrown: that VIA processor is pretty rare. you'll probably won't find many people who have experience with it
[06:23] <narg> how would you recursivly chmod only directories? chmod 770 */ perhaps?
[06:23] <frank23> narg: not sure... check out  man chmod
[06:24] <brenner> narg: chmod -R  make sure you know what you're doing though
[06:24] <brenner> narg: actually, that's wrong
[06:24] <narg> brenner: yea, that does it all :p
[06:24] <Cyorxamp> frank23 - hey I installed the 2.6.15 one - but its not showing in the GRUB menu - do I need to add it ?
[06:24] <brenner> yeah, sorry misread you
[06:25] <frank23> Cyorxamp: it doesn't show up in grub? it should....   if not you might need to add it yourself to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:25] <tritium> Cyorxamp: ubuntu linux-image packages are automatically setup in grub.
[06:25] <frank23> Cyorxamp: what package did you install exactly?
[06:25] <_jason> narg: find . -type d -exec chmod <bleh> '{}' \;      should do it I think
[06:25] <Cyorxamp> linux-386
[06:25] <Cyorxamp> well I 'upgraded'
[06:26] <Cyorxamp> from 2.6.12 to 2.6.15 - but its not showing
[06:26] <narg> _jason: will that do it from . downwards, or the whole system?
[06:26] <_jason> narg: . downwards
[06:26] <narg> ok, good
[06:26] <_jason> narg: you can replace . with what you wish or just cd to the directory
[06:27] <frank23> Cyorxamp: you upgraded  linux-686  or something like that?
[06:27] <Cyorxamp> umm... yeah
[06:27] <Cyorxamp> it was already installed (i.e. green in synaptic) so I clicked it and clicked upgrade
[06:27] <tritium> Cyorxamp: put your /boot/grub/menu.lst on pastebin please
[06:27] <narg> _jason: thanks, it worked.
[06:28] <_jason> narg: np
[06:28] <Cyorxamp> it got it, isntalled it, then I put my repo's back to breezy
[06:28] <Cyorxamp> and restarted
[06:28] <jon_> Hi I'm trying to compile rxvt-unicode 7.7 with 32 bit depth supporte.
[06:28] <jon_> support*
[06:28] <jon_> http://pastebin.com/626368
[06:28] <jon_> That is my problem. . . >_>
[06:29] <crimsun> jon_: it'll help if you enable the deb/deb-src repo for universe, and apt-get build-dep rxvt-unicode
[06:29] <arrick> hey I finally fixed a problem on my own::))
[06:29] <crimsun> jon_: note that the perl dependency is a newer one as of v6.x
[06:30] <brenner> arrick: awesome
[06:31] <nazty> does anyone know how to change alternative irc's?
[06:31] <michael> ok this is importaint right now - my friend is usinf MSN Messenger and want's to video chat, how do i do that?? i'm using gaim right now
[06:31] <jon_> crimsun, Thanks.
[06:31] <nazty> i forget the command to change alternatives
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> michael,  video chatting in gaim is  sort of a work in progress i hear.
[06:31] <arrick> brenner, is the accounting program for ubuntu called acct?
[06:32] <michael> any good proggy for it? i tried amsn, but that sucks
[06:32] <brenner> arrick: never had the need to use one, sorry
[06:32] <arrick> ok
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> michael,  i dont 'video' chat.. :P i text chat.. the way its MENT to be done.
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> ;p;
[06:32] <arrick> anybody know what the name of the accounting package is for ubuntu?
[06:32] <michael> k, thanks
[06:32] <jon_> Could anyone point me to a list of repositories for Dapper?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  go to freshmeat.net and search for accounting programs.
[06:32] <bimberi> arrick: gnucash is one
[06:33] <arrick> ok
[06:33] <liable> what happened to bob2??
[06:33] <arrick> Dr_Willis, bimberi, thanks
[06:35] <bimberi> liable: /msg nickserv info bob2 -> Last Seen: 14 weeks 1 day (3h 53m 52s) ago
[06:36] <Cyorxamp> frank23 - ummm it's not in /boot
[06:36] <Cyorxamp> vmlinux that is
[06:36] <liable> bimberi: i know he's gone a while :) wondered where he's gone :)
[06:37] <bimberi> liable: me too
[06:38] <frank23>  CyorxampL I don't really know...
[06:38] <jon_> crimsun, If you use xcompmgr, rxvt-unicode has support for terminals with a transparent background yet fully opaque foreground.
[06:38] <liable> vmlinux or vmlinuz?
[06:38] <Cyorxamp> vmlinuz
[06:38] <jon_> crimsun, If you're interested . .
[06:39] <crimsun> jon_: yes, I follow upstream development.
[06:39] <jon_> crimsun, Damn, same problem.
[06:39] <arrick> hey all, I have quickbooks pro 2002, is it compatible with ubuntu?
[06:39] <arrick> how about photoshop 7.0?
[06:39] <Cyorxamp> lol
[06:39] <jon_> arrick, Yes, use crossover office for those.
[06:39] <arrick> ok thanks
[06:40] <arrick> !crossover
[06:40] <ubotu> arrick: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:40] <liable> or wine does photoshop//
[06:40] <jon_> arrick, It's better to use The GIMP though.
[06:40] <arrick> ubuto: be nice
[06:40] <arrick> thats better than Photoshop 7.0?
[06:41] <crimsun> jon_: is libperl-dev installed?
[06:41] <arrick> jon_, man I juts looked at gimp, its pretty powerful
[06:41] <bimberi> on Linux it is :)
[06:42] <jon_> Ah, no, but am installing it now.
[06:42] <greenwom> is NDISWRAPPER on the install CD????
[06:42] <greenwom> I forget
[06:42] <jon_> greenwom, If you want a _real_ wifi card, get a proxim 8470-wd
[06:45] <jon_> crimsun, Thank you, that did it.
[06:45] <arrick> !wireless
[06:45] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:45] <knownbad> !samba
[06:45] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:46] <arrick> greenwom, this link under !wireless will guide you through getting ndiswrapper
[06:46] <SoapOSX> 'lo
[06:47] <greenwom> I know how to use it but I'm going to wipe my box, if ndiswrapper is on the install cd then I don't need to go to my neigbors and use the router to plug in :)
[06:47] <arrick> greenwom, the Belkin F5D7010 is supported by default, automatically on too
[06:47] <arrick> wirelessG
[06:47] <arrick> oh ok
[06:47] <SoapOSX> could someone help me with an issue? ubuntu 5.10 amd64 is locking up on me
[06:47] <greenwom> Ya I have three boxes running wireless, I share a connection with my tenant
[06:47] <arrick> !64
[06:47] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[06:48] <arrick> !amd64
[06:48] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[06:48] <arrick> ok, night all
[06:49] <SoapOSX> there are zero error messages when it's booting up, however...when i get to the login window and type my name and pass, it plays the welcome noise but just locks up to a brown screen (but the cursor is moveable)...if i try to change the session, it locks up when i select a different session.....any clues?
[06:50] <liujie> fjkl
[06:51] <SoapOSX> also i was told that it could be because i have an SATA hdd
[06:55] <crimsun> poningru: well, there's nothing wrong per se with their using it. On the other hand, I wouldn't readily recommend it, although people certainly are free to break their own systems in their own interesting ways...
[06:55] <poningru> well yes but we shouldnt be recomending it
[06:55] <poningru> and I thought ubuntu forums was part of ubuntu
[06:56] <poningru> since the whole paying money/bandwidth thing
[06:56] <crimsun> frankly people are free to recommend it, but I personally recommend an alternative
[06:56] <young> need help installing an rpm on ubuntu...anyone got time to help me?
[06:56] <Kyral> !alien
[06:56] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:57] <young> really, hmmm...how about limewire?
[06:57] <poningru> young: sorry?
[06:57] <Kyral> !limewire
[06:57] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[06:57] <poningru> !java
[06:57] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:57] <poningru> etc.
[06:57] <young> awesome. will do and thanks! the support on this is incredible...=)
[06:57] <poningru> oh I guess it says it already
[06:57] <poningru> but try frostwire
[06:58] <Kyral> !botsnack
[06:58] <ubotu> thanks kyral :)
[07:00] <CreatureOfLegend> Hello again.  I think I configured everything ok, but I'm still having trouble connecting to the net.  I'm trying wvdial and I'm getting a message that says there is no dialtone. But that is very much not true.  The phone that is connected to the same modem has a dialtone.  And I'm using the same line to be connected right now (via Windows laptop).
[07:00] <punkmonkey> Is there a way to have ubuntu redetect the boot devices for menu.lst?
[07:01] <punkmonkey> I've installed a new drive, and the sequencing of the devices seems to have changed. And I don't know how to address my serial ata drive.
[07:01] <Kyral> punkmonkey: sudo update-grub
[07:01] <dle> Any opinions/experiences with dapper and ati cards?  The 9200 in particular?
[07:02] <punkmonkey> Hmm, that only updated the Linux kernels -- it's the Windows one I'm trying to get it to boot to.
[07:02] <tritium> dle: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:02] <punkmonkey> Kyral, any way of telling it to rescan for Windows stuff?
[07:02] <Kyral> why would you want to? j/k :P
[07:03] <dle> tritium: okay, thanks.
[07:04] <punkmonkey> Kyral, balance of stability and pain, mostly.
[07:04] <punkmonkey> My serial ata drive used to be (hd1,0) -- that seems to have changed with a new IDE drive being added. Not sure why.
[07:04] <CreatureOfLegend> what should I do if I get an error w/ wvdial that says there is no dialtone when there indeed is a dialtone?  Where might the problem lie?
[07:05] <punkmonkey> CreatureOfLegend, you probably have it hooked up to the wrong serial device or the modem isn't configured.
[07:05] <liable> punkmonkey: your sata drive was hd1?
[07:06] <punkmonkey> liable, that's how it's configured in grub, and it used to work.
[07:06] <CreatureOfLegend> punkmonkey: I went through the steps to configure, it though.  And the wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf says it can detect it.
[07:06] <CreatureOfLegend> What do you mean to the wrong serial device?  Like hardware-wise in the mother board?
[07:06] <punkmonkey> CreatureOfLegend, Could you have more than one modem/modem-like device installed?
[07:07] <CreatureOfLegend> punkmonkey: Nope only one
[07:07] <punkmonkey> CreatureOfLegend, hm, not sure, it's been a while since I used wvdialconf
[07:07] <CreatureOfLegend> Ok. Thank you anyway :)
[07:07] <punkmonkey> anyone... list of hdX,Y devices?
[07:08] <imc1> hey I'm installing vmware and it wants to know if I want to use host-only networking in my VMs. What';s that?
[07:09] <liable> punkmonkey: /boot/grub/device.map
[07:11] <AngryElf> hey all, anyone know of a program that rotates background images?
[07:11] <punkmonkey> liable, it looks like it's ok then.
[07:11] <BlueHeron> imc1: no you don't
[07:11] <punkmonkey> liable, sda is hd1, and hd1 is what I'm configured to boot from.
[07:11] <BlueHeron> imc1: it means the VM can only access the host computer, not the net
[07:12] <liable> punkmonkey: and it wont boot?
[07:12] <punkmonkey> it will not.
[07:12] <jon_> crimsun, If you're still there, when I start urxvt with 32 bit depth, xcompmgr doesn't draw shadows for it. Is there a way I can have it do that . .
[07:12] <liable> punkmonkey: is the sata drive on a card controller and the ata onboard?
[07:12] <punkmonkey> I think it whined about the filesystem... I can try and check again.
[07:12] <punkmonkey> Maybe it is getting to the Windows MBR and that's gone?
[07:13] <punkmonkey> The serial ata and the ide/ata are both onboard.
[07:13] <Eleaf> hi
[07:14] <CreatureOfLegend> Hi, Eleaf
[07:14] <punkmonkey> liable, I'm going to try a quick reboot and try stuff. Thanks for your help. Might brb.
[07:14] <Eleaf> hmm hi
[07:14] <Eleaf> lol
[07:14] <liable> punkmonkey: gl
[07:14] <CreatureOfLegend> Eleaf: You said hi, I said hi back. :p
[07:15] <CreatureOfLegend> does anyone else know why wvdial gives me a nodialtone message when there is a dialtone?
[07:15] <Eleaf> yes CreatureOfLegend hi.
[07:16] <dygta> hello
[07:16] <CreatureOfLegend> Eleaf: Hello ^_^ (this is fun!)
[07:17] <Eleaf> lol
[07:17] <Eleaf> ;>
[07:17] <CreatureOfLegend> Bienvenidos! (sp?)
[07:17] <xsquared> hi, i am just thinking about upgrading to dapper
[07:17] <budluva> anyone know how to slow down ET???????
[07:17] <xsquared> by upgrading to dapper, what should i expect?
[07:17] <wastrel> ubuntu
[07:18] <crimsun> jon_: I don't know offhand (haven't used urxvt in a long time)
[07:18] <wastrel> rxvt eh
[07:18] <mecca> hi
[07:18] <_jason> budluva: take away his skittles?  what do you mean by ET?
[07:18] <budluva> enemy territory
[07:19] <budluva> seems waaayyyyy too fast
[07:19] <budluva> dunno how to show fps
[07:19] <budluva> but i have details on high, everything as high as it will go and seems like the game is on speed
[07:19] <xsquared> budluva, dude
[07:19] <xsquared> you have to disable powernowd
[07:19] <liable> thats good isnt it?
[07:20] <xsquared> budluva, sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[07:20] <budluva> what is powernowd?
[07:20] <xsquared> then restart ET
[07:20] <budluva> !powernowd
[07:20] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, budluva
[07:20] <frank23> xsquared: how does powernowd affect ET?
[07:20] <xsquared> it just does
[07:20] <xsquared> and counterstrike
[07:21] <liable> the .. um .. daemon, to give .. err .. p0w4h .. n0w?
[07:21] <wastrel> !info powernowd
[07:21] <ubotu> powernowd: (control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.96-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
[07:21] <xsquared> liable, do you run dapper?
[07:21] <budluva> haha first time i've ever had to slow down newer games :P
[07:21] <liable> xsquared: unfortunately, no.
[07:22] <xsquared> what do you run?
[07:22] <liable> xsquared: sid :)
[07:22] <frank23> budluva: disabling powernowd will make your cpu run at full speed all the time, not slow it dows
[07:22] <xsquared> is there alot of dependancy problems in debian sid?
[07:22] <budluva> is dapper stable now? last time i checked it wasn't for everyday desktop use
[07:22] <frank23> budluva: dapper will be released on June 1st
[07:22] <budluva> whoa
[07:23] <xsquared> too far away
[07:23] <budluva> i've been in the bush too long
[07:23] <liable> xsquared: atm its not to bad. but i dont really have a lot of shit installed.
[07:23] <budluva> any gui changes to dapper?
[07:23] <xsquared> im just pissed off about some things in ubuntu
[07:23] <budluva> frank23, bcm43xx work in dapper out of the box?
[07:23] <tritium> xsquared: take it easy
[07:23] <xsquared> i.e. the kernel is compiled with a different version of gcc than what is provided in the repos
[07:23] <budluva> only thing i cant get working on my new lappy is broadcom wireless
[07:24] <frank23> budluva: I have no Idea.
[07:24] <liable> xsquared: it is unstable after all..
[07:24] <xsquared> ubuntu breezy?
[07:24] <frank23> xsquared: that's because it was (still is?) impossible to compile the kernel with gcc-4
[07:25] <liable> xsquared: no, dapper
[07:25] <void^> hm, i've compiled my linux kernels with gcc4 for some time now
[07:25] <xsquared> i see frank23
[07:25] <arrick> hey, If I have a printer installed on a networked windows xp machine, that is not supported by ubuntu, and am working on a networked ubuntu machine, is there a way for me to print over the network?
[07:25] <xsquared> its just a pain sometimes
[07:25] <frank23> void^: was it possible when breezy was released?
[07:25] <bimberi> !xpprint
[07:25] <ubotu> Printing from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[07:26] <xsquared> also, where can i get a backport for lighttpd?
[07:26] <xsquared> i can't find that package for breexy anywhere
[07:26] <void^> frank23: no idea. was it released last.. autumn?
[07:27] <joseph> hello
[07:27] <tritium> !info lighttpd
[07:27] <hondadarrell> Is there a way to fix Synaptic or Update-manager? Update-manager froze during an update. Now all synaptic says is "Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root: Wrong password.". I tried using the terminal with sudo apt-get update, but I get "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.". Is there a way I can get to a shell and update or is there a way around the error I get
[07:27] <hondadarrell>  in the terminal? Thanks
[07:27] <frank23> void^: october 2005 I think. but the choice of kernel compiler would have been made before that
[07:27] <tritium> !info lighttpd dapper
[07:27] <ubotu> lighttpd: (A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.4.11-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 272 kB, Installed size: 816 kB
[07:27] <joseph> I need help.  I accidently formatted the wrong hard drive with all my files on it.  Is there any way that I can recover it?
[07:27] <xsquared> trying to install the dapper package results with errors
[07:27] <xsquared> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:27] <xsquared>   lighttpd: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8a-1) but it is not installable
[07:27] <xsquared>             Depends: lsb-base (>= 3.0-3) but 3.0-1ubuntu8 is to be installed
[07:28] <arrick> bimberi, this thing is asking for a driver, and the printer is not supported, any way around this?
[07:28] <tritium> xsquared: don't paste it here please
[07:28] <void^> frank23: but why did they make gcc4 the default compiler?
[07:28] <xsquared> dude, its 3 lines
[07:28] <xsquared> i wouldn't paste any more than 3 lines
[07:28] <tritium> xsquared: dude, please don't
[07:28] <bimberi> arrick: possibly not, try a model number that looks close
[07:28] <xsquared> heh
[07:29] <frank23> void^: not sure why exactly... they could compile everything else with it. I know ubuntu cleared alot of the way for the gcc4 transition for debian
[07:29] <arrick> there are none, not even the z600le that is supposed to be the same
[07:29] <arrick> bimberi, how do I crossover a windows driver for the printer?
[07:30] <joseph> Can anyone hear me?
[07:30] <tritium> joseph: no, but I can see your words
[07:30] <dj-fu> I can read what you are typing
[07:30] <dj-fu> :)
[07:30] <joseph> I need help.  I accidently formatted the wrong hard drive with all my files on it.  Is there any way that I can recover it?
[07:30] <arrick> file recovery.com
[07:30] <frank23> joseph: the only way I know how is with recovery programs. GetDataBack for windows is the only one I know
[07:30] <void^> frank23: i see.. sometimes it's good to force new things :)
[07:30] <bimberi> arrick: idk and i doubt it's possible
[07:30] <joseph> frank23: do they work with ext3?
[07:31] <hondadarrell> what can I do about the error, "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[07:31] <odat> anyone know why a 512 memory chip is coming up as 516?
[07:31] <frank23> joseph: no. what was the filesystem you accidentally formated? ext3?
[07:31] <joseph> yes ext3
[07:31] <arrick> bimberi, yeah me too, maybe I'll download the lexmark developers tool and take a stab then, thanks
[07:31] <hondadarrell> *I'm running sudo apt-get update.
[07:31] <tty5> need help on floppy mounting
[07:31] <bimberi> arrick: kk :)
[07:31] <frank23> joseph: oh. maybe there are linux recovery tools for that
[07:32] <bimberi> tty5: what's the problem?
[07:32] <joseph> frank23: maybe?
[07:32] <ca38aspear> joseph do not write any new data on the hard drive with the new recovery program
[07:32] <frank23> joseph: I don't know. I never tried to recover files like that
[07:32] <tty5> root@matrix:/media# pmount /media/floppy
[07:32] <tty5> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:32] <wastrel> odat:  it's normal.
[07:33] <tty5> whats the win fstype? ntfs/fat right
[07:33] <philc> someone asked me this weird question -- is a 256-bit video card more likely to be CISC or RISC, and why?
[07:33] <bbrown> what is the simplest way to enable my writer to work, it says I need scsi loaded in the kernel
[07:33] <bbrown> this is with breezy
[07:33] <bimberi> tty5: try 'pmount -t msdos /media/floppy'
[07:33] <tty5> ya
[07:33] <odat> wastrel, ok i think i just maxed out this old compaq deskpro en   i wanted to put the 512 and 256 but it says its too much memory and i thought that may have something to do with it
[07:34] <tty5> bimberi,same output
[07:34] <bimberi> tty5: hm, try another disk?
[07:35] <arrick> 1>
[07:35] <tty5> u mean another floppy? i need to save some data from this floppy :(
[07:35] <arrick> !printers
[07:35] <ubotu> methinks printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[07:35] <imc1> No sound in a new breezy install - little help please? Xorg running and I get system beeps but not sound
[07:36] <imc1> Sound worked under DAPPER of all things, but not under this breezy install
[07:36] <frank23> arrick what lexmark printer do you have?  I don't think you can use windows drivers in any way
[07:36] <bimberi> tty5: just trying to see what the issue is.  Have you tried mounting it via nautilus? - Places -> Computer, right-click on Floppy, Mount Volume
[07:37] <tty5> im not using xwin
[07:37] <tty5> nvm
[07:37] <bimberi> tty5: ah :|
[07:37] <tty5> mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy is the solution
[07:37] <tty5> thanks bimberi
[07:37] <wastrel> imc1:  you've unmuted your channels in alsamixer? (have to ask)
[07:37] <tty5> ;)
[07:38] <imc1> Yes! ;)
[07:38] <bimberi> tty5: ha, you've tought me :)
[07:38] <imc1> IT's a Realtec ALC 883 chipset
[07:38] <kuja> Spring cleaning, eh
[07:39] <tty5> bimberi,i think by dfault breezy configures the floppy diskette drive /dev/fd0
[07:39] <wastrel> imc1:  your card is listed in lspci?  you have a /dev/dsp?  you're in the audio group?  your sound modules are loaded?  all that happy jazz...
[07:39] <imc1> wastrel, thanks, neede that nudge...one sec
[07:40] <imc1> lspci no!
[07:40] <imc1> So I guess it's not gettin loaded . . .
[07:41] <budluva> anyone here using ati 8.16.20 drivers and stuck in 1024x768???
[07:41] <bimberi> tty5: yes, looks like it
[07:42] <imc1> wastrel, no lspci, yes user in audio group, yes /dev/dsp soundcore is loaded
[07:42] <dj-fu> Anyone know of a program like FRAPS for linux? to capture video of my desk?
[07:42] <budluva> seems these drivers wont let me go past 1024x768 even after manually editing xorg.conf, i could go higher when using "ati" drivers in xorg.conf but stuck in 1024x768 after switching to "fglrx" driver
[07:44] <imc> wastrel?
[07:44] <wastrel> yup, just a mo
[07:44] <imc> :)
[07:45] <wastrel> imc so if your card isn't being recognized, is the correct driver being loaded?
[07:46] <imc> I don't think so wastrel.
[07:46] <imc>  lsmod | grep sound shows soundcore as being loaded
[07:47] <imc> I know the sound card on the machine works because it worked under dapper
[07:47] <crimsun> imc: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[07:48] <IamEthos> anyone know of an OS X style dock for Linux?
[07:48] <imc> Hi, crimsun. Wow, cool: 0: Realtek ID 883
[07:48] <crimsun> imc: that doesn't work under breezy.
[07:48] <imc> Ah.
[07:48] <imc> IamEthos gxdocker or something like thatr
[07:48] <crimsun> imc: follow the directions being sent to you.
[07:49] <imc> THANK YOU crimsum!
[07:49] <ca38aspear> xfce is the closes thing i have seen to osx 'apt-get install xfce4'
[07:49] <wastrel> heh google loses i guess :]   gl imc
[07:49] <crimsun> imc: if you encounter an error, please run ``sudo apt-get -f install''. When you reach the dpkg-reconfigure stage, answer "yes" to PnP and debug.
[07:49] <weasel__> hey guys
[07:50] <dj-fu> Is there something like fraps for linux?
[07:50] <wastrel> what's fraps?
[07:50] <imc> okay, crimsun, thanks again, much appreciated
[07:50] <weasel__> If I have a stupid tech question, would this be the place to ask ?
[07:50] <ca38aspear> yes
[07:50] <_jason> weasel__: just try asking it :)
[07:51] <weasel__> heh, allright :)
[07:51] <dj-fu> Fraps is a desktop video capture program
[07:51] <dj-fu> so I could capture a video of me chatting here, or whatever.
[07:51] <IamEthos> imc: nothing on google for that
[07:52] <IamEthos> is there a way to hide all of the icons on a workspace
[07:52] <weasel__> My second CD drive (the burner) is "not there". When I try doubleclicking on the icon, it refuses and gives me "mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist"
[07:52] <IamEthos> (I want to have one workspace with icons
[07:52] <IamEthos> one with stickys
[07:52] <IamEthos> and the other two for applications
[07:52] <weasel__> the first CD drive works just fine, and this worked untill recently.
[07:52] <AngryElf> okay, this is totally killing me, I thought this was maybe related to the fact that my server was FC4 and my client was breezy, but it's not.........whenever I mount a NFS share, it takes 1-2 minutes....no error messages, it works fine in the end, file transfers are fine etc.......but the mount command takes forever.........what gives?
[07:52] <adminsdfads> ?
[07:52] <Psyk> what is the name of the package for developer man pages?
[07:53] <ca38aspear> weasel_ are you a super user when you do this
[07:53] <weasel__> this is just through the GUI, for trying to access things on a CD
[07:53] <wastrel> Psyk:  manpages-dev
[07:54] <Psyk> thank you
[07:54] <wastrel> IamEthos:  i don't think that's possible with gnome.  could be wrong tho
[07:55] <imc1> IamEthos http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php
[07:55] <imc1> It's a K app but works under gnome, cool, like the mac docker, mouse over and it gets big.
[07:56] <IamEthos> imcl: I saw this one earlier
[07:56] <IamEthos> but I couldn't remember what I googled for
[07:56] <IamEthos> and couldn't find it again
[07:56] <imc1> It works - I run it
[07:56] <imc1> Watch the movie
[07:57] <IamEthos> imcl: is it in a repos? how do I install it on Ubuntu?
[07:58] <wastrel> IamEthos:  apt-cache search docker
[07:59] <imc> crimsun, it seemed to install without errors; last I was it was "loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc."
[07:59] <imc> Uh, but now how can I access the menu? ALT+F@ and ALSA only shows me the deb pkg
[08:00] <weasel__> when I check /etc/fstab, everything looks the same for the 2 drives. But one doesnt work, when you actually insert a CD, for some reason
[08:00] <crimsun> imc: ok, good. cat /proc/asound/version
[08:00] <VonGuard> hey
[08:00] <VonGuard> anyone used gnome-art?
[08:00] <VonGuard> is it downloading everything? geez, seems like overkill
[08:00] <imc> IamEthos, you need to download and build it - piece of cake
[08:00] <imc> crimsun - w00t: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.
[08:00] <imc> Compiled on Mar 28 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-10-386.
[08:02] <imc> IamEthos, on the downloads page are all the linkis to the packages
[08:02] <imc> You;ll need the base KDE libs I think as well
[08:02] <wastrel> anyone got a good mp3 player that works well with lunix (not ipod) ?
[08:02] <VonGuard> rios
[08:03] <VonGuard> not very large though
[08:03] <void^> any mp3 player that works as usb storage
[08:03] <johanbr> wastrel: I'm pretty happy with my Creative Muvo^2.
[08:03] <imc> crimsun, should I go get gnome-alsamixer?
[08:03] <weasel__> doesn't amaroK give ipod support ?
[08:03] <crimsun> imc: pastebin the output from ``amixer -c0''
[08:03] <imc> okay
[08:04] <kevman> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Athlon 850. Whenever it gets to "partition disks" it pops up with a dialog box with nothing but "???? ????" and "go back" and "contunie"
[08:04] <pulgoki> are any of the alternatives to windows emmulators any better than wine?
[08:04] <kevman> Anyone know what THAT could be?
[08:05] <imc> crimsun, thanks, I'm grateful: http://pastebin.com/626433
[08:05] <kevman> pulgoki, cedega, maybe.
[08:05] <kevman> But its payware.
[08:05] <pulgoki> yea
[08:05] <pulgoki> ive been reading into that
[08:05] <pulgoki> i'd be glad to pay if it works well
[08:05] <weasel__> cedega works pretty well, though I havent run a lot of stuff off it
[08:05] <pulgoki> weasel__: you know much about the demo?
[08:06] <pulgoki> is it limited other than time?
[08:06] <weasel__> As far as I know, its just that you cant get updates past its expiry
[08:06] <weasel__> Im not sure though. I just paid for the regular one. Its kinda cheap
[08:06] <crimsun> imc: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' produce audible sound?
[08:06] <pulgoki> hrm
[08:06] <pulgoki> that sounds strange
[08:07] <kevman> Hmm.... Maybe the partition table was just corrupted.
[08:07] <pulgoki> weasel__:  how many apps have you tried in it?? just a few?? sorry for so many questions
[08:07] <imc> crimsun: yes it does!!!!
[08:08] <imc> Cheers. Shouts of joy.
[08:08] <crimsun> imc: excellent.
[08:09] <imc> Yes indded! Thanks!!! So now how can I get that mixer happening?
[08:09] <weasel__> pulgoki: the only things I have tried with it are Halflife, hearts of iron, soldier of fortune (didnt work) and delta force land warrior (didnt work). Not much else, sorry
[08:09] <crimsun> imc: you just need to adjust PCM using the Volume Control
[08:09] <kevman> Can somone tell me what this "LVM" selection is on the partitioner?
[08:09] <kRaKoN> Hi where is  Synaptic ?
[08:09] <imc> Right, except there is no visible volume control anywhere
[08:10] <crimsun> imc: not in the system tray area?
[08:10] <crimsun> (upper right corner)
[08:10] <kevman> Or ignore me.
[08:10] <kRaKoN> I wanto to install wine according to http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb but i cannot find the option "repositories"
[08:10] <imc> It was there but disappeared when ALSA installed. But wit, I can try adding it to the panel
[08:11] <crimsun> kevman: take a look on the wiki
[08:11] <imc> YES!
[08:11] <imc> Thanks VERY much crimsun. This is the second time you've walked me through something and I am most grateful.
[08:11] <crimsun> right, part of the upgrade process killed all apps accessing the old drivers prior to unloading them.
[08:11] <kRaKoN> oh i got ir
[08:11] <kRaKoN> thank you
[08:11] <kevman> I figured it out, crimsun. Its a matter of principle :P
[08:12] <imc> have a great night, crimsun!
[08:12] <kevman> #Gentoo is BAD for ignoring me :( Though sometimes they'll help you out.
[08:12] <crimsun> kevman: people don't intentionally ignore you. Some of us just can't answer every question as it's asked.
[08:12] <crimsun> imc: you, too
[08:12] <kevman> Ack, cold spot on this food.
[08:12] <BunnyBoy> Hello everyone! I need support!
[08:13] <weasel__> kevman: Nuke till done :)
[08:13] <anstei> !tell BunnyBoy about anyone
[08:13] <tritium> BunnyBoy: go ahead and state the problem
[08:13] <kevman> New to IRC, hm?
[08:14] <weasel__> this is the first time I've been on IRC so.. yeah.. kinda...
[08:14] <BunnyBoy> yes I'm very new
[08:14] <Klowner> irc, where the men are boys and the women are men
[08:14] <weasel__> and the mice have guns ?
[08:14] <Klowner> yes
[08:15] <Klowner> I thought you said you were new to irc
[08:15] <Klowner> :)
[08:15] <anstei> and the boys are fbi agents :P
[08:15] <weasel__> I saw one of them on hte way in..
[08:15] <anstei> anyways, back to topic.
[08:16] <IamEthos> I'm using kxdocker
[08:17] <spencerk> is there a safe way to reformat windows without loosing grub?
[08:18] <anstei> spencerk: you can recover grub after reinstalling windows
[08:18] <anstei> !tell spencerk about grub
[08:18] <spencerk> boot disk?
[08:18] <weasel__> did anyone have an idea on my "mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[08:18] <weasel__> " problem ?
[08:18] <anstei> the second link should do it
[08:19] <spencerk> anstei, do i apt-get a boot-disk app or something
[08:20] <spencerk> ahh thanks
[08:20] <anstei> spencerk: as long as you haven't installed grub on the partition you want to format you should be safe to install windows
[08:20] <Blue-Steel> how come when  i type my root passwd when asked by adept gui  it fails  to accept it but it works if  i do it in the console
[08:21] <spencerk> anstei, that !tell script is so cool
[08:21] <spencerk> thank you
[08:21] <anstei> 
[08:22] <IamEthos> i'm using kxdocker and everytime I mouse over it, a black bar appears at the bottom of the screen
[08:22] <nem> what program can i used for put my screen on TV
[08:22] <anstei> weasel__: you can't mount a hard disk itself. you have to mount a partition of a drive
[08:22] <nem> i have nvidia
[08:23] <weasel__> Hm, this comes up when I try to access my second CD rom drive.
[08:25] <anstei> weasel__: maybe it has another name. on my computers they are always something like /dev/cdrom. you could do an "ls /dev | grep cd" to find out whether there is something named like that
[08:26] <weasel__> anstei: that gave me cdrom, ptycd and ttycd
[08:26] <anstei> weasel__: so try to mount /dev/cdrom
[08:28] <NytWolf> Wow... theres a few Ubuntu users here.
[08:28] <weasel__> anstei: it displayed No medium found, if there's no CD in there. With a CD, it gives /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[08:28] <NytWolf> Just a few.
[08:29] <weasel__> thats for the cdrom thats working, though.
[08:29] <NytWolf> Could someone offer advice on recommended partitions to use with Ubuntu (rather than just have a swap and an everything-else partition?)
[08:30] <chalcedony> ~$ makedir myname
[08:30] <chalcedony> bash: makedir: command not found
[08:30] <chalcedony> ~$
[08:30] <chalcedony> what do i do ?
[08:31] <NytWolf> mkdir
[08:31] <chalcedony> ahh
[08:31] <chalcedony> no a
[08:31] <chalcedony> tired..
[08:31] <NytWolf> =3
[08:31] <chalcedony> ~$ mkedir court
[08:31] <chalcedony> bash: mkedir: command not found
[08:31] <chalcedony> ~$
[08:31] <NytWolf> No e either =P
[08:31] <chalcedony> ~$ mkdir court
[08:31] <chalcedony> mkdir: cannot create directory `court': File exists
[08:31] <chalcedony> ~$
[08:32] <NytWolf> Thats obvious
[08:32] <chalcedony> grin
[08:32] <chalcedony> ok..
[08:32] <wastrel> yay
[08:33] <NytWolf> And, if anyone is listening about my parition question... I have a recommended strategy for it, but I'm afraid I don't know the sizes I should give each parition, aside from the /boot and swap partitions
[08:33] <Karmander> hello everybody
[08:33] <wastrel> NytWolf:  how much free space on your drive?
[08:33] <volcom_b0i> can anyone point me to the file that winecfg edits?  I want to edit the file manually
[08:33] <Karmander> i love my ubuntu :)
[08:33] <Fujitsu> volcom_b0i, it's the registry files. Recommended to use winecfg!
[08:33] <chalcedony> Karmander: don't we all?
[08:33] <Karmander> can you help me to make my gnome more functional?
[08:33] <NytWolf> Wastrel: I've got two drives, a 10 gig, and a 160 gig... this is the strategy I was going to use: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO-31.html
[08:34] <Karmander> chalcedony you're right
[08:34] <NytWolf> The first of two on the page
[08:34] <volcom_b0i> winecfg crashes when I trye to edit the audio tab
[08:34] <Karmander> i need help to make my ubuntu run faster (like a ferrari)
[08:34] <volcom_b0i> I just want to edit the sound hardware acceleration to emulation.
[08:35] <wastrel> NytWolf:  seems complicated.  i'd put / on the 10gig and /home on the 160, give yourself some swap if you need/want it from the 10gig.
[08:35] <Karmander> can you help me?
[08:35] <andrina> can somone tell me what this means please
[08:36] <volcom_b0i> oh... I see, not like the old wine configs at all....
[08:36] <Fujitsu> No, changed in mid-2005, volcom_b0i.
[08:36] <NytWolf> Wastrel: My question is, using the configuration listed on that page, what sizes should I make each partition
[08:36] <andrina> hp5400_scanner.c: In function hp5400_bulk_read:
[08:36] <andrina> hp5400_scanner.c:245: warning: initializer element is not computable at load time
[08:36] <andrina> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lusb
[08:36] <andrina> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[08:36] <andrina> make: *** [hp5400]  Error 1
[08:36] <volcom_b0i> bummer, my fault for running dapper :)  I can wait I suppose for it to be fixed.
[08:36] <Karmander> ok thank you
[08:36] <Fujitsu> Install libusb-dev, andrina.
[08:37] <wastrel> NytWolf:  you're actually going to split your drives into 11 different partitions?
[08:37] <wastrel> NytWolf:  is this a server setup?
[08:37] <NytWolf> Wastrel: Yep
[08:37] <andrina> thanks
[08:38] <volcom_b0i> Does this look familiar to anyone? Fix? open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[08:38] <NytWolf> Wastrel: I'm not working with much of a system and I've read several sources that say this is a good idea. I figured since I don't have much of a machine, I could at least make the drives as efficient as possible
[08:39] <joevandyk> Who do I talk to to get support in Dapper for the ipw3495 wireless NIC?
[08:39] <thoreauputic_> volcom_b0i: sudo modprobe snd_seq  if I remember correctly will fix that
[08:39] <NytWolf> Then again, a crappy system for Windows XP is an awesome system for linux :x
[08:39] <joevandyk> (I'm willing to help package / test it)
[08:39] <volcom_b0i> ok, so if that works, should I add it to my modprobe on boot?
[08:39] <thoreauputic_> volcom_b0i: add it to /etc/modules
[08:40] <weasel__> if the first cdrom is hdc, what should the second one generally be ?
[08:40] <kevman> Damn thing crashed.
[08:40] <weasel__> is there any general logic to how that works or ?
[08:40] <NytWolf> Wastrel: I'm not desperate at the moment, so I could wait until its not 12:40 at night and ask when more people are available
[08:40] <NytWolf> If you can't help me, that is.
[08:40] <thoreauputic_> volcom_b0i: if you are trying to use midi, there's a howto on the wiki
[08:40] <thoreauputic_> !midi
[08:40] <ubotu> from memory, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:41] <volcom_b0i> no, I am trying to edit my audio properties in winecfg and it throws that at me when I click the tab.
[08:41] <wastrel> NytWolf:  you don't need swap on both drives, and you don't need a news partition.  ubuntu doesn't use a separate boot partition normally either.
[08:41] <thoreauputic_> volcom_b0i: ah, can't help with wine I'm afraid - maybe someone familiar with it can...
[08:41] <wastrel> NytWolf:  swap is typically 2x RAM nowadays, up to a total of 1gb swap.
[08:42] <Fujitsu> weasel__, hda is the Primary Master, hdb is Primary Slave, hdc is Secondary Master, and hdd is Secondary Slave.
[08:42] <volcom_b0i> yeah, not a big deal, just trying to get it working because it won't :)
[08:42] <NytWolf> Wastrel: Yah, I wasn't sure what the heck the news partition was o.o
[08:42] <wastrel> NytWolf:  for /root you need a minimum of about 4 gb, 8-10 to be more comfortable
[08:43] <wastrel> er  for /   not /root
[08:43] <weasel__> Fujitsu, Thanks. so for a second cdrom, hdd would be correct ?
[08:43] <Fujitsu> If it is the slave on the secondary IDE channel, yes.
[08:44] <weasel__> It is. Allright, so far so good
[08:44] <andrina> Hi, Im conpiling something and getting errors. problewm is there off screen in gterm so i can read them they go past as far upwards as i can scroll how would i fix this...ive seen a buffer option before but i cant find it nbow
[08:44] <andrina> cant read them*
[08:44] <wastrel> though splitting out /usr /var and /lib will shrink /  .. i dunno honestly it seems baroque and unnecessary - for a desktop system.  :] 
[08:44] <wastrel> i'm going to bed :] 
[08:45] <weasel__> Everytime I try to mount anything, or just insert a cd in that drive, absolutely nothing happens.
[08:45] <NytWolf> G'night, thanks =3
[08:45] <sfaris> gaaaaasp
[08:45] <sfaris> :(
[08:45] <sfaris> mornin
[08:46] <shanky> good morning, is ther a specific channel for ubuntu-server ?
[08:46] <andrina> Hi, Im conpiling something and getting errors. problewm is there off screen in gterm so i can read them they go past as far upwards as i can scroll how would i fix this...ive seen a buffer option before but i cant find it nbow
[08:46] <MoeTief> moin
[08:46] <AngryElf> hmmmm, so under Services > Admin > Networking, I changed the Hostname of the computer, and it wanred me I wouldn't be able to open apps till after logging back in......but i've done that, and now i can't get root access.....why why why? :(
[08:46] <andrina> xterm is the same everythings off screen
[08:46] <MoeTief> some people fron germany here
[08:47] <thoreauputic_> !de
[08:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> What's the kde trash location?
[08:48] <n4cht> andrina,  gterm->edit->current profile->scrolling tab.   set the scrollback higher.  also, make sure you've got the build-essential package installed.  (apt-get install build-essential)
[08:49] <volcom_b0i> sweet got it to work.  I had to MALLOC_CHECK_=0 to get it work work... Bug somewhere ...
[08:52] <joevandyk> Hi, Who do I talk to get to ipw3945 wireless support in Dapper?
[08:52] <andrina> thanks
[08:53] <crimsun> joevandyk: it's a WIP
[08:53] <ricardo_> how can i get a faster gnome startup?
[08:53] <ricardo_> help me to disable unusefull applications
[08:55] <sethk> ricardo_, look around in $HOME/.gnome2, but it is not easy to do
[08:56] <ricardo_> sethk which parameters should i change
[08:56] <ricardo_> sethk i'm not an expert
[08:57] <ricardo_> i'll appreciate if you give some steps to follow
[09:00] <ricardo_> can you help me please
[09:00] <GNU_Style> i just installed ubuntu flight, cant boot to my xp now
[09:00] <andrina> hi what package is sanei included in? im having compile problems cant find that file
[09:01] <andrina> welll its sane.o or something
[09:01] <sethk> ricardo_, I'll see if I can find a starting point for you...
[09:01] <andrina> welll its sanei.o or something
[09:01] <andrina> !sanei
[09:01] <ubotu> andrina: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:01] <sethk> andrina, a .o file is a build product, created from some sort of source, typically a .c
[09:01] <sethk> andrina, so you can have a link problem because of a missing .o, but not a compile problem
[09:02] <andrina> i just found out sanei is internal routines whats that?
[09:02] <NytWolf> ricardo_: Have you attempted to search places like Google?
[09:03] <_wingede> sanei is related to scanners aint it??
[09:03] <andrina> anyone know a driver or know how to get the Hp Scanjet 4500c scanner woring in ubuntu?
[09:03] <andrina> yes
[09:03] <NytWolf> ricardo_: You'd be surprised how much information is already documented.
[09:05] <unamerican> hi
[09:05] <unamerican> anybudy around? or on?
[09:05] <unamerican> rather not idle?
[09:06] <MistaED> andrina: sane says unsupported :( http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/hp-scanjet-4500c.html
[09:07] <kleinlappies> hi there
[09:07] <ricardo_> NytWolf thank you i'm looking for but there is a lot and it makes it confussing
[09:07] <kleinlappies> im at work now so let the fun begin
[09:07] <ricardo_> NytWolf also there is too much information for advanced users
[09:09] <ricardo_> i have a amd k6-500 and i'm installing the linux-image-k7 and modules, can it make it work better? is it ok?
[09:10] <MistaED> ricardo: something tells me a k7 kernel will be incompatible with a k6
[09:10] <nick|here> some lines appering at the middle of window suddenly? then disappears
[09:10] <MistaED> possibly a 686 kernel might be better
[09:12] <ricardo_> it will be incompatible?
[09:12] <ricardo_> it won't work
[09:12] <ricardo_> are you sure
[09:12] <void^> you're free to try
[09:12] <sfaris> i dont think its different kernels for K6 and K7 just for fun
[09:13] <sfaris> there must be some reason :)
[09:13] <sethk> sfaris, sometimes one kernel will perform better than another, but both will work
[09:13] <void^> learning by doing, experience is the best teacher, and so on.
[09:13] <sethk> sfaris, I'm not sure whether the k6/k7 is like that, but it could be
[09:13] <sfaris> might be worth a try
[09:13] <ricardo_> yes but i would like to keep my ubuntu working
[09:14] <thoreauputic_> afaik k6 is equivalent to i586 so I don't think a k7 kernel will work
[09:14] <thoreauputic_> I may be wrong however...
[09:14] <ricardo_> actually i have a 386 kernel
[09:14] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: it really won't make much difference
[09:14] <ricardo_> but i couldn't find a k6 kernel, why?
[09:15] <sethk> ricardo_, you can easily build one
[09:15] <ricardo_> how?
[09:15] <ricardo_> in case it doesn't work what should i do?
[09:16] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: your original kernel will still be there
[09:16] <MistaED> i'd just go with 686, a k6 i think was comparable to a pentium 2 and that's 686
[09:16] <sfaris> i use grub, so i can choose kernel at startup
[09:16] <ricardo_> sfaris i also have grub
[09:17] <ricardo_> so it will appear at the startup?
[09:17] <sfaris> does for me
[09:17] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: frankly changing from the i386 kernel is unlikely to make a big difference
[09:18] <void^> yes, it's just not worth it
[09:18] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ so it doesn't matter too much
[09:18] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: exactly
[09:18] <ricardo_> makes me feel better
[09:18] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: I wouldn't bother personally
[09:19] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ so where should i start to make my so more functional?
[09:19] <void^> use a leighter desktop environment, xfce oder fluxbox even.
[09:19] <void^> -e
[09:19] <ricardo_> void how can i get it
[09:20] <ricardo_> can it coexist with gnome?
[09:20] <ricardo_> can i have at the same time gnome and flux?
[09:20] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: for xfce , install xubuntu-desktop or xfce4
[09:20] <andrina> hi what package would these files be in
[09:20] <andrina> gcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/.libs/sane_strstatus.o: No  such file or directory
[09:20] <andrina> gcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/../sanei/.libs/sanei_init_ debug.o: No such file or directory
[09:20] <andrina> gcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/../sanei/.libs/sanei_confi g.o: No such file or directory
[09:20] <andrina> gcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/../sanei/.libs/sanei_usb.o : No such file or directory
[09:20] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: sure - you choose the session you want at login
[09:21] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ does xfce4 request too much resources?
[09:21] <mdke> can i run sshd and apache on the same port? are they clever enough to figure out which incoming requests are which?
[09:21] <void^> no.
[09:22] <aeolist> mdke no
[09:22] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: no, it is quite snappy - I had it running on a pentium 200 mmx with 64 MB RAm
[09:22] <ricardo_> woaw
[09:22] <ricardo_> amazing so how can i try it
[09:23] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: either install xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: I would recommend xubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <ricardo_> why?
[09:23] <ricardo_> isn't it a kde desktop?
[09:23] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: it comes with some nice light apps like abiword and rox filer
[09:23] <ricardo_> no sorry kubuntu
[09:24] <mdke> aeolist, every service has to be on a different port?
[09:24] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ how can i get xubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <aeolist> it's best mdke
[09:24] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: just   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <thoreauputic_> assuming you have universe enabled
[09:25] <thoreauputic_> !info xubuntu-desktop
[09:25] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[09:25] <ricardo_> how many hd space needs?
[09:25] <mdke> aeolist, do you mean it won't work if I run two services on the same port, or that it's a good idea not to?
[09:25] <ricardo_> woaw
[09:25] <ricardo_> 32kb!!!
[09:25] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: that's only the metapackage
[09:25] <void^> mdke: it's not possible.
[09:25] <mdke> void^, damn
[09:25] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: apt will tell you how much space it needs
[09:25] <aeolist> mdke, if you dont use different ports, how will the software be able to discern between the tcp/ip packages?
[09:26] <ricardo_> 113MB!
[09:26] <ricardo_> i don't have anought space
[09:26] <mdke> aeolist, I wondered if it was clever and could do it
[09:26] <aeolist> ricardo_, sit back and relax
[09:26] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: how much space do you have?
[09:26] <aeolist> mdke, nah... the whole purpose of ports is that they are to be used by single services
[09:26] <aeolist> i guess
[09:27] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ wait i'm looking
[09:27] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: if you have less than 100MB you won't be able to do much anyway...
[09:27] <void^> mdke: it doesn't work like that by design. no matter how clever you are, you cannot walk through the wall, you have to take the door.
[09:27] <mdke> void^, right, thanks
[09:27] <aeolist> void^, actually there is a slight chance to walk through the wall
[09:27] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: df -h will tell you
[09:27] <void^> aeolist: not in my lifetime
[09:27] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ 21 mb
[09:27] <sfaris> :)
[09:28] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: how big is your hard drive?
[09:28] <aeolist> thoreauputic_, i thought apt-get checked for free space before downloading & installing
[09:28] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ 2gb
[09:28] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ 228 mb for swapping
[09:28] <aeolist> ricardo_, do a server install
[09:28] <AngryElf> if i've got a share mounted, then the server goes down, when i try umounting the share i get "/directory: device is busy"......how do i umount it???
[09:28] <aeolist> and then do a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: in that case you probably need to do a server install and add stuff with apt-get
[09:29] <thoreauputic_> aeolist: :)
[09:29] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ yes i did that
[09:29] <aeolist> thoreauputic_, i am faster.eat my dirt
[09:29] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: erm - and you installed ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:29] <ricardo_> i installed then the desktop
[09:29] <ricardo_> yes
[09:29] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: don't do that
[09:29] <ricardo_> why?
[09:29] <ricardo_> what's wrong?
[09:30] <void^> AngryElf: may want to mount nfs with soft,intr ;)
[09:30] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: do a server install then install xubuntu-desktop
[09:30] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: it will take much less room
[09:30] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ it's gona take a long time
[09:30] <ricardo_> how much less?
[09:30] <AngryElf> void^, what about for right now? :)
[09:30] <mdke> or better, a minimal install then install xubuntu-desktop
[09:31] <void^> AngryElf: get the server back up :P
[09:31] <AngryElf> it is back up, but i still can't umount it, reboot?
[09:31] <ricardo_> can i uninstall some not usefull applications
[09:31] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: well, ubuntu-desktop takes 1.8 G including the base - so if xubuntu takes only 113 MB...
[09:31] <void^> heh.. if it's reachable it should fix itself automagically
[09:31] <andrina> gcc: /usr/local/src/sane/sane-backends-1.0.13/backend/../sanei/.libs/sanei_usb.o : No such file or directory
[09:31] <ricardo_> why that difference?
[09:32] <andrina> what package would this be in?
[09:32] <andrina> what package would this be in?
[09:32] <andrina> sane-hp5400.c:35:24: error: sane/sanei.h: No such file or directory
[09:32] <andrina> sane-hp5400.c:36:32: error: sane/sanei_backend.h: No such file or directory
[09:32] <andrina> sane-hp5400.c:37:31: error: sane/sanei_config.h: No such file or directory
[09:32] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: becuase ubuntu-desktop installs a lot of apps
[09:32] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ like what?
[09:32] <thoreauputic_> andrina: stop repeating please
[09:32] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ does xubuntu have openoffice?
[09:32] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_:  apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop   to see
[09:32] <ricardo_> stop andrina it makes me krazy
[09:33] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: no
[09:33] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ yes i have a list
[09:34] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_:  apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop to see the difference
[09:34] <krishna> hey
[09:34] <krishna> can anyone help me configure grub?
[09:35] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ yes i see
[09:35] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: xubuntu-desktop is pretty nice
[09:35] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: and if you want to play with fluxbox you can install that as well - it's tiny
[09:35] <krishna> i don't even know where to start.... i would like to add another entry for windows... i have two windows partitions  and ubuntu only detected one
[09:36] <patrick52222> i just downloaded this "jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin" how do i install it
[09:36] <aeolist> krishna, the manual is really helpful & straightforward... just google "grub manual"
[09:36] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ how can i get fluxbox
[09:36] <thoreauputic_> !java
[09:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:36] <nick|here> lines appear in de screen like this: http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ekrangoruntusu8tn.jpg
[09:36] <nick|here> how can i fix it??
[09:36] <krishna> k... thanks
[09:36] <aeolist> krishna, you'll have to edit a file called menu.lst in the grub directory which is in the boot directory
[09:36] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_:  sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[09:36] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: apt is your friend :)
[09:36] <aeolist> krishna, that's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:37] <krishna> alright, no wysiwyg prog for grub config?
[09:37] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: just be sure to enable the repositories
[09:37] <shukhrat> hello, everyone!
[09:37] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ yes i'm getting familiar with it
[09:37] <ashley3453> if i have to run depmod -a  and ifup ra0 each time i reboot to get my wlan working what have I set up wrong ?
[09:37] <clever> nick|here,  those look likeproblems with your lcd pannel
[09:37] <FlannelKing> krishna: it's really simple
[09:37] <FlannelKing> krishna: honest
[09:37] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ sorry but where is the difference between fluxbox and xubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <krishna> lol okay... i just get nervous about messing with the boot stuff
[09:38] <nick|here> clever: i'm using CRT
[09:38] <clever> nick|here,  then it may be the video card
[09:38] <FlannelKing> krishna: well, if you don't remove the old options, you can always select them at the grub menu.
[09:38] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: big difference - xubuntu-desktop pulls in other apps - fluxbox is just a window manager
[09:38] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ is fluxbox a good option
[09:38] <clever> nick|here, are they moving or constant?
[09:38] <krishna> I don't have a floppy drive and getting it to work after is going to be a problem..
[09:38] <krishna> alright... i'll give it a try, thanks guys
[09:38] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: I suggest you try xubuntu-desktop first
[09:39] <nick|here> clever: they are still, and appears when moving a window or resizing
[09:39] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ how can i make space keeping gnome (for the moment)
[09:39] <clever> could be linux then
[09:39] <patrick52222> when i try to install java i get this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10958
[09:39] <clever> i was thinking it was similar to my problem
[09:39] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: you can uminstall apps that you don't think you need
[09:39] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!
[09:39] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ if i get fluxbox how the other appl work?
[09:39] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: use synaptic or apt
[09:39] <clever> i have horizontal lines that are copys of x pixels to the right
[09:40] <clever> that randomly jump about
[09:40] <nick|here> clever: yep, the same
[09:40] <clever> causing the screen to show double
[09:40] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: all apps will work with any window manager
[09:40] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ can i run my actual appl from fluxbox?
[09:40] <thoreauputic_> sure
[09:40] <ricardo_> ahh ok
[09:40] <clever> also it goes away when i turn up the res on the card
[09:40] <sethk> ricardo_, almost everything doesn't care.  there are a few unimportant things (panel applets, and such) that might.
[09:40] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: I'm running fluxbox here right now
[09:40] <clever> redhat9 got rid of it by running at max res
[09:40] <patrick52222> when i try to install java i get this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10958
[09:40] <clever> ubuntu doesnt have it at all
[09:41] <patrick52222> im getting the help from the restricted format page but i get errors
[09:41] <nick|here> clever: i'm running at 1280x1024 and its the last
[09:41] <clever> and one of my live cd's defaults to the mode that causes it
[09:41] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!
[09:41] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ how can i change to fluxbox now?
[09:41] <thoreauputic_> sethk: true - of course if you want to you can run gnome-panel in fluxbox - though I don't know why you would
[09:41] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ i have to restart?
[09:41] <sethk> patrick52222, it tells you it can't find java-package.  So that's probably not the correct name
[09:42] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: log out, choose it from "Sessions"
[09:42] <sethk> thoreauputic_, that's true
[09:42] <thoreauputic_> on the login screen
[09:42] <ricardo_> ok
[09:42] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: fluxbox is pretty minimal :)
[09:43] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!
[09:43] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ i know i can be heavy but tell me the advantages of having fluxbox or xubuntu
[09:43] <void^> fluxbox eats virtually no ram and takes virtually no time to start
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> How to run Firefox 1.07 while 1.5 is installed a la wiki?
[09:43] <patrick52222> it is the right name as it says it on the restricted format page
[09:43] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ what does it mean that fluxbox is only a window manager? what it can't do?
[09:43] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: advantages of xubuntu-desktop : easier, more features - adv of flux - light on resources and configurable
[09:44] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ but xubuntu can do things that flux can't?
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Never mind.  I just found it.  :P
[09:44] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: it doesn't have "desktop" features like network config GUI, GUI for various other things...
[09:44] <void^> it's basically a matter of look and feel. just try it.
[09:45] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: yes xubuntu-desktop has more features
[09:45] <patrick52222> or is ther any other help for java other than the restricted format page
[09:45] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ so for this things flux will use gnome, is it ok?
[09:45] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: fluxbox can do whatever you want it to, but requires more configuration and knowledge
[09:46] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!
[09:46] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: no, flux doesn't use gnome
[09:46] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: you are confused I think
[09:46] <ricardo_> yes a bit
[09:46] <sfaris> :)
[09:46] <ricardo_> but i'm learning
[09:46] <patrick52222> or is ther any other help for java other than the restricted format page
[09:46] <ricardo_> and i like it
[09:46] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: you can run gnome apps in fluxbox
[09:46] <ricardo_> if you don't matter i would like to continue
[09:47] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!
[09:47] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!
[09:47] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!
[09:47] <ricardo_> ah like xmms and open office?
[09:47] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: it's just a different way to control your desktop - and looks and feels different
[09:47] <sfaris> shukhrat: please
[09:47] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: just try it and see
[09:47] <ricardo_> well i'm looking for something very functional and it looks like it
[09:47] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: http://fluxbox.org  for more information
[09:48] <AngryElf> what is the file to edit group information?
[09:48] <krishna> hey guys... just a quick question about grub:  ubuntu thinks my second windows partition is on /dev/hda5, however it is actually the second partition on the hard drive, so does that make the "root" "(hd0,4)"  or "(hd0,1)"?
[09:48] <krishna> and what does "savedefault" do?
[09:49] <sethk> AngryElf, /etc/group, but don't change it directly, using the utilities
[09:49] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_ i'm using x-chat there is a way to send you messages without writing your nick
[09:49] <AngryElf> sethk, is the user 'root' a member of group 'root' I can't get that from the utils
[09:49] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: why ? what do you need to do that for?
[09:50] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: the answer is yes , of course...
[09:50] <ricardo_> because it tires me
[09:50] <sethk> AngryElf, sure you can.  just log in as root and run groups or id
[09:50] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_:   thore <tab>
[09:50] <ricardo_> always writing a nick at the beggining
[09:50] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: tocomplete nicks hit tab
[09:50] <ricardo_> what?
[09:51] <ricardo_> so how i put the nick
[09:51] <clever> type thore then hit the tab key
[09:51] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: try   typing   thore <tan>
[09:51] <thoreauputic_> um <tab>
[09:51] <clever> the key that says tab on it:P
[09:51] <ricardo_> thore <tab>
[09:51] <AngryElf> sethk, so, how come when logged in as root I get 'permission denied' when trying to view some NFS shares that are owned by user=me group=root?
[09:51] <sfaris> :)
[09:51] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: haha - no - press th tab key
[09:51] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_,
[09:51] <ricardo_> yes
[09:51] <ricardo_> hahaha
[09:51] <ricardo_> very funny
[09:51] <thoreauputic_> ricardo_: you got it :)
[09:51] <ricardo_> :)
[09:52] <ricardo_> thoreauputic_,  yes i see
[09:52] <sethk> AngryElf, because the permissions don't allow you to see them.
[09:52] <clever> xchat adds the , if the msg is starting with the name
[09:52] <Kennie> tnx god ther is tab :), more easy to dir throught linux eg /usr/lo [tab]  etc
[09:52] <ricardo_> thoreauputic thank you
[09:52] <AngryElf> sethk, but i can't change the permissions
[09:52] <sfaris> if its more than one nick beginning with the given letters you can press <tab> several times.. ie tho<tab><tab><tab><tab><tab>
[09:52] <thoreauputic> ricardo_: no problem :)
[09:52] <sfaris> :)
[09:53] <ricardo_> thoreauputic,  i'll be back in a second and i'll tell you what i think about flux
[09:53] <clever> also xchat wont finish if theres too many like t<tab> causes
[09:53] <sethk> AngryElf, I'd have to see the specifics to tell you why, but as root you can change the ownership or permissions.  It's possible the problem is user id or group id mapping by mount
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ricardo_: right  click for  menu in flux
[09:53] <clever> instead it lists all the posible choices for you in the window
[09:53] <ricardo_> ok
[09:53] <sfaris> clever: works for me
[09:53] <sfaris> oh, never mind :)
[09:54] <sfaris> im at work.. using mIRC :|
[09:54] <clever> i know mirc alot better
[09:54] <clever> mirc doesnt care how many start with what you typed and just forces you thru the list of 500 t names:P
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:54] <clever> im only using xchat because ubuntu doesnt like wine
[09:54] <clever> ubuntu+wine=crash
[09:55] <clever> just like driving+beer=crash
[09:55] <AngryElf> sethk, as root it gives me perm denied when i try to do anything (on the client)......on the server everything is me:root 744......and the UIDs for me are 1000 on both boxes
[09:55] <thefish> clever: check out konversation, its pretty cool as well
[09:55] <Mika_i> clever: :D
[09:55] <void^> use irssi
[09:55] <clever> i only use irssi when the x server isnt up
[09:55] <nick|here> clever: have you got any solution for me?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> !start an IRC client war
[09:55] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:56] <thoreauputic> bah, ubotu is no fun
[09:56] <sethk> AngryElf, you can't even do ls?
[09:56] <clever> havent found my screenshot yet nick|here :S
[09:56] <thoreauputic> someone removed the "war" factoids :(
[09:56] <AngryElf> it gives me perm denied
[09:56] <sethk> AngryElf, it's possible to map a user id to another user id when something is mounted.  So, it might map 1000 to something else, which could make it invisible to you.
[09:57] <sfaris> nick|here, i think you might have got it wrong.. "nick here" means that you should have your nickname there ;D
[09:57] <sethk> AngryElf, that's one possible reason.
[09:57] <sethk> AngryElf, do you have root on the box where you can't see them?
[09:57] <AngryElf> sethk, yes, UID=0
[09:57] <clever> nick|here, http://clever.mine.nu/download/laptop.jpg is a copy of my problem
[09:57] <AngryElf> same on the server
[09:57] <nick|here> sfaris: it's my decision
[09:57] <sethk> AngryElf, logged in as root, then, can you ls?
[09:57] <clever> nick|here, in the shot you can see 3 mouse pointers
[09:57] <AngryElf> no
[09:57] <sfaris> i know.. j/k :)
[09:58] <AngryElf> sethk, pm
[09:58] <nick|here> clever: not that bad. i have only 1 px thin black lines
[09:58] <harm_> hi iam sorry, i avtn presearched this qeustion, but how do i switch from gnome to KDE?
[09:58] <clever> nick|here, when on lower res's the edges of my distortions are moving randomly
[09:59] <thoreauputic> n4cht: please turn you away script off
[09:59] <clever> nick|here, with 1pixel tall bits jumping in/out from the main line
[10:01] <overrider> is there a way i can monitor the file deletions made to a samba fileserver? so when someone comes and says the file is gone, i can see who deleted it?
[10:01] <clever> where by default is the xserver conf file?
[10:02] <thoreauputic> clever: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:02] <clever> :D
[10:03] <harm_> how can i remove openoffice1, because i have 1 and 2 :P
[10:03] <boci^> hi
[10:03] <boci^> How can I upgrade ruby to 1.8.4 in ubuntu?
[10:03] <thoreauputic> greetings boci^
[10:04] <boci^> (rails 1.1 not work with 1.8.3)
[10:04] <sethk> boci^, is there a package for it?  If not you'll have to build it from a tarball
[10:04] <Seveas> boci^, lart the ruby/rails developers so they care about backwards compatability
[10:04] <sethk> boci^, which isn't difficult but the package manager won't know about it.
[10:04] <harm_> how can i switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[10:04] <Seveas> boci^, ruby/ror are on serious crack
[10:05] <boci^> :/
[10:05] <thoreauputic> harm_: install kubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <harm_> thx
[10:05] <thoreauputic> harm_: that gives you the choice then of gnome or KDE
[10:05] <REyM> nm
[10:06] <harm_> can i install KDE and then remove GNOME? i seriously hate it
[10:06] <Eleaf> join #frosted
[10:06] <Eleaf> OMMom
[10:07] <thoreauputic> harm_: possible but tricky
[10:07] <Seveas> !removegnome
[10:07] <ubotu> Want to remove gnome/kde completely? Look at debfoster, it's a great help
[10:07] <Eleaf> hmm
[10:07] <harm_> its hard?
[10:07] <harm_> =X well i mean if it really is hard its going to be a debian net install
[10:07] <thoreauputic> harm_: debfoster will help, as Seveas points out
[10:08] <thoreauputic> harm_: alternatively, install kubuntu from a kubuntu CD
[10:09] <harm_> i dont have a kubuntu CD, and i dont feel like burning it just for the sake of it
[10:09] <thoreauputic> harm_: then install kubuntu-desktop
[10:09] <thoreauputic> harm_: and use debfoster to remove gnome
[10:10] <nick|here> clever: i have reinstalled my nvidia drivers, but when i try "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" getting error: Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[10:10] <harm_> i cant use synaptic manager?
[10:10] <thoreauputic> harm_: sure you can - to install kubuntu-desktop
[10:10] <clever> i havent installed video drives on linux before
[10:10] <thoreauputic> harm_: to uninstall as well, if you wish
[10:11] <thoreauputic> harm_: but you will probably need debfoster as well
[10:11] <nick|here> thoreauputic: can you help me?
[10:11] <philc> can I use modrewrite to rewrite a domain? I have domain forwarding on, so it's domain.com/page, and I want to rewrite that as "newdomain.com/page2" or something
[10:11] <philc> is that possible?
[10:11] <intelikey> morning folks.
[10:11] <harm_> there :) works like a charm i used synaptic and it asked mt prefered gnome or kde :)
[10:11] <thoreauputic> nick|here: I have no idea if I can or not... what is your issue ?
[10:11] <thoreauputic> harm_: right
[10:11] <nick|here> thoreauputic: i have reinstalled my nvidia drivers, but when i try "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" getting error: Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[10:12] <harm_> thoreaputic thanks, you seem very knowledgeable about linux
[10:12] <thoreauputic> nick|here: sorry, i don't know about nvidia - have you read the wiki page?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[10:12] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:12] <nick|here> yep i followed the instructions at the wiki
[10:12] <nick|here> then i get the error
[10:13] <gypsymauro> hello, I'v einstalled a gtk1.2 app but fonts look so ugly and big..any hint?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> nick|here: just picked a few things up over the last few years ;)
[10:13] <harm_> :P
[10:13] <fek> moin
[10:13] <thoreauputic> umm nick|here sorry that was for someone else
[10:14] <boci^> sethk, Seveas : ruby 1.8.3 is very buggy...
[10:14] <thoreauputic> harm_: mostly about ubuntu and debian ( but I'm no guru I'm afraid)
[10:14] <sethk> boci^, ok, then use the newer one.
[10:14] <harm_> iam a lot beter off with debian net install actually
[10:15] <sethk> boci^, I build it from source, and it isn't a problem, at least for me.
[10:15] <harm_> but iam very sucky at linux
[10:15] <thoreauputic> harm_: whatever works for you - Debian is a fine distro of corse
[10:15] <thoreauputic> *course
[10:15] <harm_> thoreaputic ubuntu is debian-like, but i wanne give kubuntu a go.. how do i switch from Gnome to KDe once installed?
[10:15] <sethk> harm_, ubuntu is so much simpler to install.  If you can install debian, you can surely learn to install ubuntu in an hour or two.
[10:16] <boci^> sethk: ok, but rails 1.1 (released) is not work with 1.8.3
[10:16] <thoreauputic> harm_: Not really much difference in operation between Ubuntu and Debian
[10:16] <boci^> agh I install from source...
[10:16] <boci^> thnx
[10:16] <sethk> harm_, at the login screen, click on sessions
[10:16] <RMeist> ah I already found it:)
[10:16] <harm_> ok thank tou sethk
[10:16] <RMeist> didnt even had have to ask:P
[10:16] <thoreauputic> harm_: just choose the KDE session as sethk says
[10:16] <harm_> let me log back in
[10:16] <BlueHeron> man epsxe
[10:16] <BlueHeron> is great
[10:16] <harm_> brb
[10:16] !lilo:*! (small regional server ping out and reconnect; affected users, about 247)
[10:18] <intelikey> hmmm quiet morning or am i disconnected ?
[10:19] <harm_> it worked :D
[10:19] <Seveas> intelikey, you're disconnected
[10:19] <sethk> intelikey, both, probably
[10:19] <thoreauputic> harm_: of course ;-)
[10:20] <intelikey> yeah i noticed that Seveas when harm_ piped up, but thanks for confirming it for me  :)
[10:20] <thoreauputic> intelikey: most of the channel has you on /ignore, that's all ;-)
[10:21] <Seveas> thoreauputic, that was a secret!
[10:21] <harm_> however it does appear that i cant simply remove gnome
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Seveas: oops!
[10:21] <intelikey> i saw the server notice from lilo and then nothing for about a minute,,, made me wonder.
[10:21] <sethk> thoreauputic, if you put me on ignore, I'll never speak to you again!   :)
[10:21] <intelikey> thoreauputic :)
[10:21] <harm_> lol
[10:21] <thoreauputic> sethk: aww... ;-)
[10:22] <intelikey> i got banned for putting a chan op on ignore one time...
[10:22] <Seveas> /ignore *!*@* ALL
[10:22] <Seveas> ignorance is bliss
[10:22] <intelikey> Seveas i've done that :)
[10:22] <harm_> Seveas sounds like your quite the chatter
[10:23] <thoreauputic> harm_: oh no - he's a dangerous disciplinarian ;-)
[10:23] <harm_> i can run and hide like a six year old
[10:23] <intelikey> heh
[10:23] <thoreauputic> harm_: Seveas will find you! Resistance is futile!
[10:24] <Seveas> thoreauputic, au contraire - I'm leaving 
[10:24] <Seveas> Have to look at a hoary server which takes 15 mins to reboot
[10:24] <Teh_unfindable> now lets see if he finds me
[10:24] <Seveas> ciao bambini
[10:25] <Chillien> *Hi, just installed Ubuntu yesterday, I wanted a challenge compared to Windows. But I need some help mounting my HD and organizing folders, thanks in advance
[10:25] <intelikey> !ntfs
[10:25] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:26] <AngryElf> how would I make links to every file in /directory/ without doing each one individually?
[10:26] <intelikey> Chillien ^
[10:26] <intelikey> AngryElf link the folder ?
[10:26] <Teh_unfindable> Ah chillien yesterday i found a nice guide which got it working for me
[10:26] <JDahl> I have a partly broken network in Dapper/AMD64. There's a nameclash between eth1 and eth0, so I always have to type "sudo ifup eth1=eth0" to get the network running. Any ideas on what to look for for fixing it?
[10:26] <AngryElf> no i want links to every file
[10:26] <Plug> AngryElf: for i in /foo/*; do ln -s $i . ; done
[10:27] <Chillien> I would like to format my HD to a non windows parti, how?
[10:27] <Nabiki> Are there any Japanese friendly IRC clients for Linux?
[10:27] <intelikey> AngryElf no way without doing every one then,  that i know of.  but you could do with a for statement.
[10:27] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: you can symlink the whole dir - same effect
[10:27] <intelikey> let the system repete the process for you.
[10:28] <variant> Chillien: mkreiserfs /dev/hd<partition number>
[10:28] <intelikey> thoreauputic i just said that.
[10:28] <AngryElf> Plug,  that worked, thanx!
[10:28] <intelikey> :)
[10:28] <Plug> np
[10:28] <thoreauputic> intelikey: erm, yes OK - sorry for breathing ;)
[10:28] <intelikey> lol
[10:29] <intelikey> it's not whether or not you breath. it's how your breath smells   :)
[10:29] <thoreauputic> intelikey: you don't want to know...
[10:29] <intelikey> no
[10:29] <Chillien> thanks, working on it
[10:30] <intelikey> let's don't go there thoreauputic :)
[10:30] <BobC2> Hello, Like Chillien my 2nd day with Linux (Ubunto is amazing!) I'd like to used Gimp Help say I need to load "Gimphelp-en" ..How, where please?
[10:30] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[10:30] <intelikey> yo  toss the blunt  homey
[10:31] <variant> BobC2: apt-get install gimphelp-en i guess
[10:31] <wezzer> BobC2: open up synaptic and search there
[10:31] <thoreauputic> BobC2: sudo apt-get install gimp-help-en
[10:31] <young> in what directory should I install java in?
[10:31] <home2> Man I love this software!!!!\
[10:31] <thoreauputic> BobC2: to find that I did  apt-cache search gimp | grep help
[10:31] <intelikey> !java
[10:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:32] <intelikey> !javadeb
[10:32] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:32] <Chillien> I actually found  Automatix or something yesterday, now THAT was a cool utility
[10:32] <young> thank you
[10:32] <AngryElf> Plug, 'done' ends the for loop, yes?.......
[10:32] <home2> Does anyone know What I put in to connect to aol instant messanger?
[10:32] <BobC2> variant wezzer thoreauputic thanks but I don't know what means?  On google thoreauputic?
[10:32] <Plug> yes
[10:32] <Plug> (it ends the 'do' loop)
[10:33] <sfaris> BobC2: no, in the terminal :)
[10:33] <JDahl> my /etc/network/interfaces is configured for eth0, but eth0 cannot be activated, rather I have to map it to eth1 via "sudo ifup eth1=eth0" - any clues on where to dig in to fix it?
[10:33] <vladuz976> one question, how hard is it to get ipod with gtkpod working under ubuntu?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> BobC2: in a termianl, type  sudo apt-get install gimp-help-en
[10:33] <BobC2> sfaris ahh OK
[10:33] <sfaris> BobC2: You can use synaptic (system -> admin -> synaptic) to search for packages
[10:34] <Chillien> I am so lost, whats the point with the filesystem and all that?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> BobC2: synaptic is an easier way to find software if you prefer to point and click :)
[10:34] <BobC2> thoreauputic sfaris gottcha thanks
[10:34] <home2> I would like to connect and get my buddy list in aol instant messange I don't know the address to put it this xchat
[10:34] <intelikey> Chillien ?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> Chillien: everything is below /
[10:34] <BobC2> thoreauputic thanks I am a GUI kinda guy!
[10:34] <thoreauputic> Chillien: the root of the filesysytem
[10:35] <intelikey> BobC2 that wont last long
[10:35] <thoreauputic> *filesystem
[10:35] <Chillien> Well, I am used to having  C and D etc, browse these two discs, have one with programs and the other  disc with media files
[10:35] <phantomcircuit> if your ex is making out with someone in front of you, and the guy is doign it because he's a) to stupid b) is tryign to piss me off, do you think id be justified in cutting his achilles tendon and watchign him flop around liek a fish out of water
[10:35] <Plug> JDahl: do you have a module mapped to eth1 in /etc/modules.conf ?
[10:35] <rnd_null> does anyone use bluetooth with ubuntu?
[10:35] <thoreauputic> Chillien: yes, you are indoctrinated ;)
[10:36] <thoreauputic> Chillien: linux uses a different model, that's all
[10:36] <intelikey> BobC2 i said the same exact words "I am a GUI kinda guy!" about two years ago.   i don't even start x anymore unless i need to look at a picture.   and don't have to for that.
[10:36] <home2> anyone get there autocad working on the Ubuntu Yet?
[10:36] <BobC2> intelikey lol Well as an old Amiga head that had a nice CLI I still am..perhaps Ubunto might change that!
[10:36] <Chillien> After typing inside the Terminal: mkreiserfs /dev/hd<1>     A new thing came up, hdd1 but I cant do anything with it
[10:36] <JDahl> Plug, no. In fact, I only have /etc/modules, which doesnt have it either. This is a new problem after I dist-upgraded to dapper a week back
[10:37] <thoreauputic> Chillien: what are you actually tring to do?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> *trying
[10:37] <JDahl> Plug, "sudo ifup eth0" tells me: "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[10:37] <BobC2> intelikey Ahhh 2 years  maybe..just maybe!  lol
[10:37] <intelikey> :)
[10:37] <Plug> pastebin the /etc/network/interface file?
[10:37] <BobC2> Thank all for ther help and kind words!
[10:37] <rnd_null> i need help with PPP, I have a device that I cannot get to connect via bluetooth, I keep getting a timeout 0x1231 error.  Does anyone know anything about this?
[10:37] <Chillien> I just wish that there werent so many folders laying randomly around
[10:38] <sfaris> does anybody know a good site where the filesystem is explained (what lost+found, /etc, /boot, /dev is for e.t.c)?
[10:38] <Plug> sfaris: FHS
[10:38] <sfaris> fhs?
[10:38] <Plug> hang on
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Chillien: nothing random about it - you just don't understand it yet
[10:38] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:38] <home2> Are you pretty good with know setting on this Ubuntu and Xchat
[10:38] <Chillien> I also have a 250GB HD which is always locked when I try to modify it
[10:38] <Plug> http://www.wlug.org.nz/FileSystemHierarchy
[10:38] <AngryElf> Plug, can you take a look at somethin for me? pm?
[10:38] <BlueHeron> Chillien: from a live-cd ?
[10:38] <sethk> JDahl, at one time there must have been an eth0 in your box, that is now removed, broken, disabled in bios, or something like that.
[10:38] <Plug> AngryElf: tell the channel
[10:38] <Chillien> nope, I installed the whole thing
[10:38] <JDahl> Plug, it looks fine, the relevant line is: "iface eth0 inet dhcp"... by googling I saw a few threads with people having the same Dapper problem for wireless LANs - apparently it's a udev problem, I was just hoping there's an easy fix
[10:38] <sfaris> 10x 2 Plug!!!1 ;D
[10:38] <Chillien> THere is a lock on the folder I mount it to
[10:38] <AngryElf> pm
[10:39] <JDahl> sethk, yes - I've always used eth0
[10:39] <Plug> AngryElf: no, the channel can help too
[10:39] <BlueHeron> Chillien: sudo chmod 777 /dir/name
[10:39] <home2> I'll give someone a piece of software if they help me!
[10:39] <AngryElf> oh, i didn't want to paste code, it's not much tho
[10:39] <BlueHeron> home2: oooh oooh pick me
[10:40] <Plug> JDahl: never done much with udev, can't help you sorry
[10:40] <home2> god no one would help unless the goods are given out...
[10:40] <Plug> ahh
[10:40] <home2> I need help setting up my xchat to talk to my aol friends with there istant messgers
[10:40] <Plug> JDahl: /etc/iftab
[10:40] <JDahl> the strange thing is how eth1 came into the picture - if it's not in /etc/network/interface, where would it be defined?
[10:41] <kleinlappies> is ubuntu good for making it my multimedia pc eg. watching movies (vis tv out on my t.v) palying  music etc.
[10:41] <BlueHeron> home2: lol, xchat doesnt' do AIM
[10:41] <BlueHeron> home2: sudo apt-get install gaim
[10:41] <Plug> it will probably map your MAC to eth1
[10:41] <Chillien> But so, when I format my HD there are so many options!  Format Type, access path bla bla
[10:41] <Chillien> what should I do, please?
[10:41] <selinium> home2, gaim
[10:41] <rnd_null> kleinlappies, yes
[10:41] <Eleaf> gaim should already be installed anyways BlueHeron ;)
[10:41] <Plug> AngryElf: use the pastebin in the topic
[10:41] <selinium> home2, there is no need to bribe people, just ask the question!
[10:41] <home2> in the repository
[10:42] <thoreauputic> Chillien: you need to be much more specific - I suggest you read a bit about the linux filesystem
[10:42] <Chillien> btw, I ahve my music on my iPod, I used to use Winamp to extract the mp3's from the iPod onto my comp
[10:42] <kleinlappies> rnd_null can you maybe tell me what is the best movie player?
[10:42] <selinium> home2 check your Applications/Internet dropdown menus..
[10:42] <BlueHeron> Eleaf: good point it's 3:42 AM here, i forgot :-P
[10:42] <thoreauputic> Chillien: try looking at   http://help.ubuntu.com and google
[10:42] <home2> thank you...
[10:42] <AngryElf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10964  I'm basically trying to flatten the directory tree, but that code's giving me an error with the 2nd for loop.......i'm not to shell scripting, what'd i do wrong?
[10:42] <AngryElf> *new
[10:42] <Eleaf> BlueHeron, hehe.
[10:42] <Plug> Flatten the tree?
[10:43] <kleinlappies> i want to sit infront of the t.v and via bluettoth remote watch my movies and series
[10:43] <Plug> Oh, I see
[10:43] <JDahl> Plug, actually the mac address for eth0 in /etc/iftab doesnt match the output from ifconfig.
[10:43] <rnd_null> kleinlappies, i use totem and vlc, between those 2 just about any format video i want to play will play (except for some wm9 and wm10 encoded videos)
[10:43] <Plug> you need a do/done around the foj
[10:43] <Chillien> Well ok, I have a 80GB which is now 60GB after ubuntu taking up 20 GB for some reason. I also have a 250GB which a want to mount and have my media files. Now how would I format it and *install* it?
[10:43] <Plug> for j
[10:43] <AngryElf> i want every file beneath pictures to be linked to in links
[10:43] <Plug> for i in *; do for j in *; do foo; done; done;
[10:43] <home2> ok gaim I know got...that was fast
[10:43] <liable> Chillien: what? ubuntu has actually *used* 20G??
[10:43] <Plug> JDahl: that probably means it can't assign eth0
[10:43] <rnd_null> kleinlappies, oh, they will also cover dvd playing as well
[10:43] <Plug> cos its not the right card
[10:43] <home2> Now do you know the server input
[10:44] <kleinlappies> rnd_null ah who needs those win formats anywahys
[10:44] <Chillien> yes liable
[10:44] <thoreauputic> Chillien: is the 250GB already holding files? In ntfs filesystem ?
[10:44] <BlueHeron> home2: server input ?
[10:44] <Chillien> I guess it was a windows parti before I installed Linux, but thats possible to change?
[10:44] <Chillien> I have no problems formating it
[10:44] <rnd_null> kleinlappies my tv card works great too, i use TVTime with absolutely no problems
[10:45] <BlueHeron> Chillien: if the drive isn't in use yet format it to EXT3
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Chillien: there's no way that Ubuntu has filled 20GB in a default install
[10:45] <JDahl> Plug, I feel kind of stupid now... I had my motherboard with onboard netcard replaced due to malfunction - but I still managed to dist-upgrade with the new netcard before things went sour
[10:45] <BlueHeron> JDahl: lol
[10:45] <home2> I see its the aol instant messanger
[10:45] <Plug> JDahl: don't worry :)  That fixed it?
[10:45] <BlueHeron> home2: just put in your account name / password
[10:45] <kleinlappies> rnd_null sorry what is TVTime?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Chillien: you just need to identify it ( try sudo fdisk -l in a terminal)
[10:45] <Chillien> the "Original" size of the disc is 73, it has now 63gb left
[10:45] <kleinlappies> i have a nvidia card
[10:46] <rnd_null> kleinlappies its a program that runs your tv card so you can watch tv on your computer
[10:46] <kleinlappies> rnd_null oh
[10:46] <BlueHeron> Chillien: in a terminal do this please, sudo tune2fs -m 0
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Chillien: that would be 10G then? Is that the size you specified on install ?
[10:46] <selinium> home2: Take a look at the home page, Oodles of info http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
[10:46] <BlueHeron> Chillien: then tell us the free space
[10:46] <BlueHeron> thoreauputic: i think he is reserving 5%
[10:46] <JDahl> Plug, I dont know the right way to configure the MAC of eth0... I doubt manually editing /etc/iftab is recommended
[10:46] <Plug> Remove the line
[10:46] <Plug> udev will say "can't allocate eth0" and go to eth1
[10:46] <Chillien> I didnt specify anything, it just started installing after I formatted the 80Gig
[10:47] <Plug> see what I mean?
[10:47] <BlueHeron> Chillien: do that command please
[10:47] <BlueHeron> Chillien: in a terminal do this please, sudo tune2fs -m 0
[10:47] <kleinlappies> rnd_null i live in south afica and here we can do that but we can't get the shedule of programs from our sattelite service
[10:47] <odat> i am having audio / video sync problems in any player
[10:47] <rnd_null> kleinlappies o
[10:47] <Chillien> I am now formating the 250GB , extend 3 or whatever
[10:47] <BlueHeron> Chillien: if you listen to me you can save some more space ..
[10:47] <Chillien> I will try to command after I formatted it Extend 3
[10:48] <BlueHeron> Chillien: do that on all your HD's
[10:48] <Chillien> k
[10:48] <kleinlappies> rnd_null its a pain --i can watch tv but not setup a shedule to record for the day
[10:48] <BlueHeron> it will increase the free space
[10:48] <home2> Thank you...It works very well!
[10:48] <odat> i am having audio / video sync problems in any player
[10:48] <Chillien> thanks for reply
[10:49] <Chillien> when I chose extend 3 it auto choses extend 2?
[10:49] <kleinlappies> rnd_null im gonna take this one step at a time -- want to make a windows media centre style pc for the home
[10:49] <home2> I have never used such great software until recently! How come more people don't use this linux
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Chillien: ext3 is just ext2 plus a journal
[10:49] <intelikey> BlueHeron you talking about reducing reserved block percentage on extfs  or what ?
[10:50] <BlueHeron> intelikey: yea
[10:50] <JDahl> Plug, thanks - that probably fixes it!  I will restart the network and see what happens
[10:50] <intelikey> k
[10:50] <BlueHeron> intelikey: what would cause my delete key to stop auto-repeating like i gotta hit it over and over? is that xserver ?
[10:50] <odat> i am having audio / video sync problems in any player  ubuntu on a p3 1.0 ghz 512 ram
[10:50] <BlueHeron> intelikey: can i just reconfigure xserver ?
[10:50] <Chillien> now the 250GB is Windows NTFS, I dunno if that makes sense. But ok, where should I mount to
[10:50] <BlueHeron> Chillien: /media/storage or /mnt/storage or something
[10:51] <nick|here> /etc/init.d/gdm start fails but startx starts the X server?
[10:51] <Chillien> ok
[10:51] <intelikey> BlueHeron yeah.  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:51] <BlueHeron> Chillien: but if it's NTFS you need to format it
[10:51] <Chillien> I have formatted it 6 times now but it always comes out as windows
[10:51] <BlueHeron> intelikey: is the ATI official drivers show as fglrx also?
[10:51] <sethk> BlueHeron, mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd??
[10:52] <selinium> home2: people buy computers with Windows installed as standard, they never get to see other software.
[10:52] <intelikey> Chillien use cfdisk and change the partition type.
[10:52] <Chillien> k, ty
[10:52] <BlueHeron> intelikey: i can't remember
[10:52] <odat> i am having audio / video sync problems in any player  ubuntu on a p3 1.0 ghz 512 ram
[10:52] <home2> What are you having trouble with regarding Windows I might know
[10:52] <intelikey> BlueHeron idk
[10:52] <sethk> BlueHeron, sorry, wrong nick
[10:52] <intelikey> !ati
[10:52] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:52] <BlueHeron> sethk: no problem
[10:52] <intelikey> maybe there listed ^
[10:52] <thoreauputic> odat: don't repeat - we saw the first time
[10:52] <Chillien> FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disc drive, when writing :cfdisk
[10:52] <thoreauputic> odat: please be more specific
[10:52] <kleinlappies> hi
[10:53] <intelikey> Chillien as root
[10:53] <AngryElf> if i do -> for i in pictures/*; then for j in $i.........it won't interpret $i as a directory, but it's not giving an error either
[10:53] <thoreauputic> odat: have you set dma on your hard drive?
[10:53] <sethk> Chillien, either you have a serious problem (unlikely), or you used the wrong partition name or you aren't root
[10:53] <thoreauputic> !dma
[10:53] <odat> audio vid sync is fine with the same file on a different   faster machine
[10:53] <home2> your logical drives are setup correctly
[10:53] <kleinlappies> for connecting to the net via pppoe what is the best tool to use at the moment im using the pppoeconf command
[10:53] <thoreauputic> !tell odat about dma
[10:53] <Plug> AngryElf: you could do for j in `ls $i`
[10:54] <painkiler> hey guys
[10:54] <Chillien> The HD name is /dev/hdd1
[10:54] <sethk> AngryElf, in that syntax, $i is a list, not a directory.  a directory happens to be a list of files, but the relevant property is list.
[10:54] <intelikey> Chillien no
[10:54] <intelikey> leave the 1 off
[10:54] <sethk> AngryElf, as plug said  $(ls $i) will turn it into a list if it is the name of a directory
[10:54] <painkiler> whats the gnome-art thing called again?
[10:54] <sethk> AngryElf, use $(), not ``
[10:54] <Chillien> how?
[10:54] <painkiler> the one you apt-get
[10:54] <intelikey> Chillien sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd
[10:55] <Chillien> ah!
[10:55] <sethk> Chillien, if you already have a partition, you don't need to run fdisk/cfdisk/whatever-fdisk
[10:55] <painkiler> i need to install a splash screen
[10:55] <Chillien> Then I chose delete?
[10:55] <BlueHeron> painkiler: gnome-art
[10:55] <sethk> Chillien, you just need to format the partition
[10:55] <painkiler> not there
[10:55] <sethk> Chillien, to delete what?  why?
[10:55] <intelikey> sethk it's ntfs partition and it is causing problems
[10:55] <Chillien> I acutally managed to install splash screen :D
[10:55] <BlueHeron> painkiler: you got a good sources.list ?
[10:55] <manichino> art-manager
[10:55] <home2> if your not formated and or partioned correctly you will always get that fatal error
[10:55] <Chillien> I get a menu with, boot, delete, write bla bla
[10:55] <painkiler> yeah, latest dapper
[10:56] <sethk> intelikey, then he can change the partition type
[10:56] <intelikey> that's what i instructed ^ up there sethk
[10:56] <painkiler> im going to se if i have
[10:56] <sethk> Chillien, you want it to be a linux partition, change the partition type.
[10:56] <intelikey> 83
[10:56] <cdo> can anyone tell me where sources.list is located at ?
[10:56] <BlueHeron>  /etc/apt
[10:56] <Fujitsu> /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <sethk> Chillien, in fdisk it is "t".  Not sure about cfdisk, which I generally don't use.
[10:56] <home2> I've had a system take a operating system and fatal error everytime while running
[10:56] <Chillien> Then I get a 100 choices
[10:57] <cdo> Fujitsu thanks
[10:57] <kleinlappies> painkiller there is a app in sysaptic do a search its name is gnome-spash-?
[10:57] <intelikey> cdo yep everyone in here it seems can tell that.
[10:57] <cdo> intelikey yeah im new .. sorry
[10:57] <sethk> Chillien, intelikey told you.  it is hex 83, linux.  there are only two you care about, linux, and linux swap.
[10:57] <hawaisurf> hi I have a problem with my screen resolution....it seems that I just can choose 640x480 in my screenresolution menu...how I can change it?
[10:57] <home2> I had to have the right format done and then after partioned it stopped
[10:57] <BlueHeron> most people don't know about tune2f
[10:57] <BlueHeron> s
[10:57] <vladuz976> how can i change the ownership of a directory?
[10:57] <sfaris> intelikey: thank you very much
[10:57] <home2> it's in applications
[10:57] <BlueHeron> vladuz976: chown
[10:57] <Chillien> Then just quit?
[10:57] <home2> I saw it
[10:58] <intelikey> sfaris np
[10:58] <manichino> preferences resolutin screen
[10:58] <sethk> hawaisurf, usually that means that your monitor was not recognized and the x config program doesn't know what resolutions it supports
[10:58] <intelikey> Chillien write to disk and quit
[10:58] <odat> its not dma
[10:58] <home2> I run this ubuntu on my new Gateway
[10:58] <Chillien> thank you :D!
[10:59] <vladuz976> like chown +x ?
[10:59] <vladuz976> to make a directory writable?
[10:59] <hawaisurf> sethk: but in the last sesion was everything working ok...how can I change it then?
[10:59] <intelikey> "chown +x ?"   :)
[10:59] <home2> I have 3 operating systems on there own partions Ubuntu is my favorite by far....I only wish I had the same applications I;m use to>
[10:59] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: chown -R username:groupname <dir>
[10:59] <Chillien> "No primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this.
[10:59] <Chillien>                  Toggle bootable flag of the current partition
[10:59] <Chillien> "
[10:59] <odat> i am having audio / video sync problems in any player  ubuntu on a p3 1.0 ghz 512 ram
[10:59] <Chillien> euuu, after using write "yes"
[11:00] <intelikey> dos can't boot ext3 anyway
[11:00] <JDahl> Plug, you're a lifesaver - it solved my problem!
[11:00] <Chillien> but I am done?
[11:00] <intelikey> yeah
[11:00] <home2> if you get that far with the boot flag you should just delete reformat with correct format type: I like number 3 It always seems to work the best
[11:01] <Chillien> lal, still says Windows NTFS in the  Disks program
[11:01] <painkiler> man, it seems that gnome has been removed underneath my feet.
[11:01] <painkiler> that sucks
[11:01] <intelikey> Chillien did you close it and restart it ?
[11:01] <Chillien> restart?
[11:02] <intelikey> the "Disks program"
[11:02] <Chillien> yep
[11:02] <intelikey> pastebin your fstab
[11:02] <intelikey> !paste
[11:02] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:02] <intelikey>  /etc/fstab
[11:02] <home2> I need to get my Wirless Card Setup and One have a clue...Its a belkin
[11:03] <home2> In ubuntu...Linspire Does it so I;m convience Ubuntu can too..
[11:03] <Chillien> !paste
[11:03] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:03] <intelikey> i don't know anything about the "Disks program"  but i know how to make linux mount ext3 partitions
[11:04] <Chillien> ah, this is why I hate linux, Everything becomes so damn complicated
[11:04] <Chillien> I tried getting Wine to work yesterday too but no good
[11:04] <home2> Oh....You need to go here chillen....I just remembered!
[11:04] <GTroy> ok, ok I love XGL, BUT the nvidia card says don't use in under 300watt power supply and mine is only a 250
[11:04] <home2> it is called Ultimate Boot Disk....get the image and burn to cd and then boot full of disk utilitys the best I love it
[11:05] <GTroy> HELP!!!
[11:05] <sethk> Chillien, if you hate it, why do you use it?
[11:05] <Chillien> because I want something new
[11:05] <GTroy> Chillien: ubuntu rocks like nothing else
[11:05] <Chillien> so tired of Windows
[11:05] <Chillien> but then again windows is the only option, except mac but thats just expensive
[11:05] <jouke> Hi, I just install ubuntu and I am experimenting with nis. I can login with nis already and stuff, but now I want to give audio rights to nis users. how do I do that?
[11:06] <sethk> Chillien, your problem is you are trying to find an "easy" way to do it.  You can do the whole job with a couple of utilities in a few minutes.  Just run fdisk /dev/hdd, then choose change partition type, put in the partition number, and set the type to 83.  done
[11:06] <Chillien> k
[11:06] <intelikey> Chillien as you learn how and why it get's less and less "so damn complicated"
[11:06] <neoxan> Chillien, theres a #ubuntu-fr channel :))
[11:06] <Chillien> I am Norwegian
[11:06] <Chillien> I live in PAris
[11:06] <neoxan> #ubuntu-no
[11:06] <GTroy> I've got more done in ubuntu in 7 months than with windows in 10 years
[11:06] <neoxan> ;)
[11:06] <neoxan> :D
[11:07] <Chillien> fdisk /dev/hdd
[11:07] <Chillien> unable to open fdisk /dev/hdd
[11:07] <intelikey> sudo
[11:08] <home2> I've just started using it for my server..I've been buying domains check out my store www.StopOneShop.Com
[11:08] <GTroy> will my computer blow chunks if I use a card that requires too much power?
[11:08] <Chillien> after doing fdisk, then what?
[11:08] <home2> The only way to do Email and Ecommerce.
[11:08] <GTroy> card box says 300W I've got 250....
[11:08] <GTroy> damn!
[11:09] <GTroy> oops sorry!
[11:09] <intelikey> GTroy no.  the ps will 'give up the ghost' tho
[11:09] <home2> The Only Software....Ubuntu
[11:09] <GTroy> well since I can't fix the ps, I'd better not
[11:09] <Chillien> First cylinder (1-30401, default 1):
[11:09] <Chillien> ?
[11:09] <GTroy> time for a new box!!!
[11:09] <intelikey> 1
[11:10] <Chillien> Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-30401, default 30401):
[11:10] <Chillien>  lol, what is all this?
[11:10] <home2> Anyone Check out My Store Yet...Http://www.StopOneShop.Com
[11:10] <jouke> Chillien,
[11:11] <intelikey> 30401
[11:11] <jouke> what do you want to do?
[11:11] <jouke> make one big partition?
[11:11] <liable> mintle??
[11:11] <Chillien> I want my HD, 250GB to become a non Windows HD. I can browse it and add media to it
[11:11] <home2> It being setup But I'll take Suggestions....anyone good with Creating Awsome Web Pages
[11:11] <intelikey> very mintle  yes liable,   i road the short bus. leave me alone.
[11:11] <agalavis> Chillien: regarding the price of macs, you can still get a mac mini... but then again, i used to use osX and now that i use linux i don't see the point in going back :D
[11:12] <Chillien>  /cry
[11:12] <home2> I run my linux and windows on the same Laptop
[11:12] <home2> I think it is going to blow up
[11:12] <Chillien> It must be the disc programs that came along Ubuntu that just sucks
[11:13] <liable> intelikey: you're a kiwi? :)
[11:13] <Chillien> I guess I should install it all over again, or just go to Win again...
[11:14] <intelikey> home2 me too,  i dual boot linux and win95 on my lappy.  it's a 80486 with 24m ram and  356m hd            kiwi ?
[11:14] <home2> I found when installing other linux before ubuntu it messes up the Boot loader, so Ubuntu Always has to be setup last
[11:14] <intelikey> err 256m hd
[11:14] <liable> new zullander...
[11:14] <GTroy> intelikey: that's crazy old
[11:15] <intelikey> GTroy yeah.  i  installed both via floppy disks
[11:15] <Chillien> argh, I am so confused
[11:15] <variant> Chillien: just run mkreiserfs /dev/hdd1
[11:15] <home2> Does anyone know wether or not the I686 is Better than the i386 I've ran both and cant tell the difference
[11:15] <GTroy> home2: slight difference
[11:15] <Chillien> haeheahae: Failed to open '/dev/hdd1': Permission denied.
[11:15] <GTroy> hardly noticable though
[11:15] <variant> Chillien: try it as root
[11:16] <Chillien> root?
[11:16] <intelikey> home2 only if you need i686 for some driver or app.
[11:16] <variant> sudo mkreiserfs /dev/hdd1
[11:16] <intelikey> !root
[11:16] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:16] <AngryElf> how do i do "for j-1 in /foo" etc...
[11:16] <intelikey> !sudo
[11:16] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:16] <Chillien> It is doing something now at least
[11:16] <variant> i really hate sudo.. but its good for new users i guess
[11:17] <Chillien> ReiserFS is successfully created on /dev/hdd1.
[11:17] <home2> How many people here run there Ubuntu off there laptop
[11:17] <variant> Chillien: now you can mount the partition.. add it to fstab to make it always mount
[11:17] <rob> home2, I do
[11:17] <intelikey> AngryElf     for  this in `ls -1 dir`  ;do echo $this ;done    <--- that is the syntax.
[11:17] <Chillien> IT said I had to RS
[11:17] <variant> Chillien: rs?
[11:17] <Chillien> isnt there a way to fast restart?
[11:18] <NiklasH_work> ok, anyone know what has happened to se.archive.ubuntu.com? All the files seem to have gone
[11:18] <home2> I need help with My Wireless Card For going wireless at hotspots...to get it to be recognized...
[11:18] <Chillien> fstab?
[11:18] <YukiCuss> NiklasH_work, are you using dapper?
[11:18] <variant> Chillien: you dont need to, only if you fdisked it
[11:18] <NiklasH_work> yep
[11:18] <YukiCuss> The Dapper mirrors often go down, and are unstable.
[11:18] <variant> Chillien: just type mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt
[11:18] <intelikey> the    `ls -1 dir`    would be executed and all the information it returned would then be ran in the echo command one line at a time.
[11:18] <YukiCuss> Due to people updating them.
[11:18] <home2> Ubuntu can't run it yet
[11:18] <Chillien> Well, ok, but the program told me to rs the comp
[11:18] <variant> home2: what card is it?
[11:18] <NiklasH_work> but when i look at the archive, there are no files at all there
[11:18] <variant> Chillien: yeah, ignore that
[11:18] <home2> I need it to Run it...a Belkin
[11:18] <Tapiwanashe> hello
[11:18] <YukiCuss> NiklasH_work, it does happen.
[11:19] <Chillien> should i do "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt" or just "mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt"?
[11:19] <home2> 802.11
[11:19] <NiklasH_work> that even the breezy files disappear?
[11:19] <YukiCuss> NiklasH_work, consider adding archive.ubuntu.com as a mirror for dapper, until it's released, or just wait until it gets files again.
[11:19] <variant> Chillien: it says "if you modified dos partitons you need to reboot adfter fdisk" you didnt do that so you dont need to
[11:19] <AngryElf> intelikey, I've got it working, except that "for j in blah" is running one too many times which produces a dead link........so i want to run it j-1 times.......but when i do "for j-1 blah" it says j-1 isn't a proper identifier
[11:19] <YukiCuss> NiklasH_work, ooooh...
[11:19] <YukiCuss> ..well!
[11:19] <variant> Chillien: sudo
[11:19] <YukiCuss> NiklasH_work, I stand mistaken and corrected. :)
[11:19] <NiklasH_work> :)
[11:19] <variant> Chillien: the better way is to set up the partition in /etc/fstab
[11:19] <Chillien> if it wasnt for this IRC channel I would have given up
[11:19] <NiklasH_work> ok, i'll just use archive.ubuntu.com in the meantime.
[11:19] <intelikey> this is NOT micro-$oft reboot windows.
[11:20] <intelikey> AngryElf j-1  or j -1    ?
[11:20] <AngryElf> j-1
[11:20] <AngryElf> white space?
[11:20] <Chillien> lol
[11:20] <sethk> AngryElf, j-1 is an expression, not an identifier
[11:20] <sethk> AngryElf, it isn't a variable in the sense of an integer in a programming language
[11:21] <sethk> AngryElf, usually when you are having this sort of problem, you've chosen the wrong language
[11:21] <Chillien> Nothing different..
[11:22] <NiklasH_work> damn, archive.ubuntu.com is SLOOOWWWW....
[11:22] <YukiCuss> NiklasH_work, depends where you live, I suppose. For me, too. :)
[11:22] <Chillien> and why is there a hdd1 under  computer:///
[11:22] <Chillien> and I cant access it
[11:22] <K2man> Great ubuntu upgrade to day - faster gnome - less memory used in desktop.  Brilliant.
[11:22] <NiklasH_work> yeah, hope se.archive... gets on its feet again soon
[11:22] <variant> Chillien: just ubuntu/gnome trying to make things easy and failing
[11:22] <sethk> Chillien, you could have done this at least 20 times by now if you didn't keep trying to find an "easier" way
[11:23] <Chillien> is there a way in going back?
[11:23] <variant> Chillien: go back to where?
[11:23] <K2man> ok tony - I get it.
[11:23] <Chillien> I dunno, to when I installed this damn thing
[11:23] <variant> Chillien: in gnome add a panel applet called disk mounter.. its pretty good
[11:24] <variant> Chillien: whats the problem?
[11:24] <Chillien> its all messed up, the hdd1, it thinks its the primary I want to mount not the free 250GB one
[11:24] <Chillien> so I cant do anything, of course
[11:25] <sethk> Chillien, what thinks what is "the primary?"  your disk has 1 to 4 primary partitions.
[11:25] <variant> huh? you mount whatever you want.. dont use teh file manager that will never work right
[11:25] <sethk> Chillien, if you've changed the partition type, now all you need to do is:   mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdd1
[11:25] <variant> Chillien: mkdir /media/hdd1
[11:26] <Chillien> I have my 80 B which I installed ubuntu on
[11:26] <Chillien> which is "Primary" i guess
[11:26] <variant> Chillien: sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1
[11:26] <variant> Chillien: then you can put files in /media/hdd1 which will be stored on that filesystem
[11:26] <sethk> Chillien, I think you are confusing primary/secondary IDE with primary/extended partition.  The two have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
[11:26] <jax0m> who knows anything about wireless?
[11:27] <sethk> jax0m, I know it's a PITA  :)
[11:27] <jax0m> heh
[11:27] <sethk> jax0m, you'll have better luck if you ask a specific question
[11:27] <kameron> if i want to sort through a list of files and show files that do not contain a certain string, how would i do this?
[11:27] <sethk> kameron, grep -v string filenames
[11:28] <sethk> kameron, sorry, I forgot -l
[11:28] <sethk> kameron, grep -l -v string filenames
[11:28] <sethk> kameron, is in:  grep -l -v xyz abc*
 I have my 80 B which I installed ubuntu on  <Chillien> which is "Primary" i guess  <--- if it's not  you have already messed the install.  but if i standunder you.  that is not the case.   primary hd  will be  /dev/hda   and from what i've seen you havent tuched that yet.
[11:28] <sethk> kameron, the -l says list files, don't show strings, and the -v says invert the sense, meaning files without string
[11:29] <sethk> Chillien, intelikey is correct.  by virtue of it being hdd, it is secondary slave
[11:29] <kameron> sethk, thanks a lot manggggg
[11:30] <sethk> Chillien, primary/second master/slave, for ide drives, is a function of how they are cabled and jumpered.  nothing you can do in software has any effect on that.
[11:30] <sethk> Chillien, well, grub sort of tries to fake out an effect, but don't worry about that  :)
[11:31] <onesandzeros> guys... have any of you used the install-via-Knoppix method?  I'm looking at the wiki page here, and it doesn't look like a problem, except for one thing--I want to install Kubuntu.  Will I run into trouble here?
[11:31] <JDahl> dmesg gives me alot of "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)".. is there a good reason to boot with apic, or should I should remove it in grub with pci=noacpi?
[11:31] <intelikey> onesandzeros shouldn't.
[11:32] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have pdfmaker program like Adobe acrobat professional? thanks!
[11:32] <oskude> onesandzeros, kubuntu is "just" "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in a normal ubuntu...
[11:32] <AngryElf> if anyone is interested in my noob-like ability to write shell scripts......http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10966  ...it works now
[11:32] <onesandzeros> intelikey, oskude : ok, thanks.  I'll see how it goes...
[11:32] <NiklasH_work> shukhrat: openoffice can save files av pdf
[11:32] <NiklasH_work> shukhrat: don't know if that's what you want, though... :)
[11:34] <shukhrat> Niklash_work: i want save my Gimp's projects in PDF
[11:34] <sethk> AngryElf, good.  when you have some time look into python as an alternative for this sort of thing
[11:35] <sethk> onesandzeros, not really, you can install ubuntu and then install the KDE desktop.
[11:35] <sethk> onesandzeros, it is much much much much easier to install ubuntu with the ubuntu installer.
[11:35] <sethk> onesandzeros, why you would do it any other way is mystifying
[11:36] <onesandzeros> sethk, switching to kdm from gdm won't take much wil it?
[11:36] <onesandzeros> yeah....
[11:36] <onesandzeros> I have a cd here, but something's wrong with it.  Maybe I'll just download another one
[11:36] <sethk> onesandzeros, no, switching to kdm isn't a problem, although it also doesn't buy you anything.
[11:36] <sethk> onesandzeros, yes, download another cd.  it will take a while but your install will be a snap
[11:37] <oskude> shukhrat, pdf is no image format, but it can contain images, so maybe save your image in gimp, and then open it in openoffice and save as pdf (but i think there are allso command line tools to make this, or a python script for gimp...)
[11:38] <shukhrat> oskude: first in Gimp then openoffice then PDF ? no it's way long ? can jimp convert files to PDF ?
[11:39] <chillien_>  /cry
[11:40] <oskude> shukhrat, dunno, as i said, pdf is no image format, so i cant understand why you do this... try the gimp homepage to see if there are any pdf plugins/scripts (or google)
[11:41] <onesandzeros> sethk, I'm only seeing dvd torrents on torrent.ubuntu.org.  Are cd torrents out there?
[11:41] <shukhrat> oskude: Thanks
[11:42] <sethk> onesandzeros, I imagine, but I just use straight downloads, I haven't used the torrents with ubuntu
[11:43] <chillien_> Can I send my screenshot to someone so that they can check what the f*** is worng with this thing?
[11:43] <jeddy3> onesandzeros, ordinary cd torrents is on cdimage.ubuntu.com
[11:44] <chillien_> please!?
[11:45] <intelikey> chillien_ sure.
[11:45] <chillien_> n1
[11:46] <chillien_> are u getting the file because u never accept?
[11:46] <intelikey> i don't see any offer.
[11:46] <user_> hello
[11:46] <chillien_> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!
[11:46] <chillien_> great...
[11:46] <^Odd^> anyone here a hardware geek? and good with ubuntu? i have a question
[11:46] <user_> hello
[11:47] <chillien_> hello...lol
[11:47] <chillien_> intelikely, msn?
[11:47] <intelikey> bitchx
[11:47] <intelikey> !ask
[11:48] <user_> yeah
[11:48] <jeddy3> ^Odd^, shoot
[11:49] <chillien_>   /CRY!
[11:49] <chillien_> Why do I have to regg to send private msgs
[11:50] <intelikey> wb
[11:51] <^Odd^> jeddy3, ok my problem started when i ran a dmesg and discoverd that with my last few recent installs that the agp bus was not functioning as it should all support for 3d was busted and the "vesa" drivers did not work....then i messed with the bios reinstalled ubuntu and discoverd that now the agp bus was detected and does kinda seem to be working but it seems that something is still lagging the hell outta it.....if you cover glx gears
[11:51] <^Odd^>  with something like another app windows my fps is normal but if the gears are showing then >.< any ideas?
[11:51] <^Odd^> whoa sorry for long post >.<
[11:51] <^Odd^> diden't mean to flood
[11:51] <bimberi> chillien_: you can pastebin a screenshot to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:52] <intelikey> -:- DCC Priveleged port attempt [0]  <--- Chillien ahh that wont work.
[11:52] <Chillien> god..
[11:52] <Chillien> why is everything so complicated?
[11:52] <ob> I have a problem running dapper. i can't figure out if it's a dapper config-error or xorg error. I run dualhead setup, and when the monitors goes into standby-mode, they just blank. And I need to restart my computer holding the powerbutton for 5 secs.
[11:52] <^Odd^> Chillien, are you new to ubuntu and a previous windoze user
[11:52] <^Odd^> ?
[11:52] <intelikey> because you have never seen a computer before.
[11:52] <skypa> greetings
[11:53] <jeddy3> ^Odd^, what kind of card do you have, and are you sure dri is enabled?
[11:53] <Chillien> previous Windows user
[11:53] <Chillien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i10967
[11:53] <JackAce> hi
[11:54] <^Odd^> jeddy3, i have a VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR]  (rev b2)
[11:54] <^Odd^> ....now i know it dosen't seem like much but in windoze it kicks arse in games and it used to in ubuntu till something changed.
[11:54] <intelikey> well actually that is close to true.   every thing you learned in windows it copy righted patened and restricted.   (thank you M$)  so every thing you learned there is useless here.   it is as if you have never seen a computer before.
[11:55] <Chillien> omg... now thats cool to hear
[11:55] <^Odd^> yea but once you get used to it it rocks and you might even start to hate windoze
[11:55] <Chillien> but any idea on the screenshot?
[11:55] <skypa> guys, what do I have to do to get usplash showing apart from installing the package?
[11:55] <^Odd^> jeddy3 you get that?
[11:56] <JackAce> I'm having a NAT problem: I'm behing ISP NAT, how do I use Socat to bypass it, say to get some incoming connections on BitTorrennt?  tried some commands but it didnt work....
[11:56] <variant> Chillien: that shows that you have a windows ntfs partition on /dev/hdd1 however we formated it as reiserfs so that is no longer true
[11:56] <Chillien> So I should just give up and become a salve for win again?
[11:56] <^Odd^> NO!
[11:56] <jeddy3> ^Odd^, sorry, i'm no good at nvidia so i don't know if i can help...users tend to have _less_ problem with nvidia though =)
[11:56] <^Odd^> yea iknow XD
[11:56] <Chillien> Well I have now spent about 10 hours just to mount a fucking drive
[11:56] <JackAce> BTW, if there is a dedicated Socat channel I will ask there (if there is, it's not called #socat anyway)
[11:57] <fish> irc://irc.QcNet.org/warezfrancais
[11:57] <fish> oopx
[11:57] <fish> *s
[11:57] <variant> Chillien: which disk are you trying to mount hdd1 or hda1?
[11:57] <Buffy_BITCH> hagga
[11:57] <jeddy3> ^Odd^, you have installed and confirmed drivers and everythings like that?
[11:57] <variant> Chillien: from that screenshot its not clear which one your trying to mount
[11:57] <Chillien> I dunno... I have one 80GB which ubuntu installed itself on, then I have a 250GB one which I have no idea what to do with
[11:57] <^Odd^> Chillien, you need to have patience man.....i am haveing a mystry agp buss issue but as i take my time and go over my work mistakes become clear and things start working as they should ^_^
[11:57] <variant> Chillien: if you had done what i said int he first place this wouldnt be happening
[11:58] <Chillien> I did what people said
[11:58] <^Odd^> jeddy3 yes i have the nvidia-glx drivers and have made sure that the changes to xorg.conf have been made
[11:58] <variant> Chillien: type sudo fdisk -l
[11:58] <variant> that will tell you what disk is what partition etc
[11:59] <jeddy3> ^Odd^, and "glxinfo | grep -i opengl" says?
[11:59] <^Odd^> Chillien, that may be true but there are lots of factors involved also be aware that linux is syntax sencitive
[11:59] <jeddy3> vendor string?
[11:59] <Chillien> I am just gonna post screenshot from now on
[11:59] <^Odd^> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[11:59] <^Odd^> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
[11:59] <^Odd^> OpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 76.67
[11:59] <^Odd^> damnit
[12:00] <Chillien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i10968
[12:00] <^Odd^> *sigh* sorry guys been up for 24hrs+ trying to fix this issue with my agp
[12:00] <sethk> variant, he needs sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd
[12:00] <sethk> variant, if we are still taking about hdd
[12:00] <variant> sethk: he doesnt know which disk he is talking about
[12:01] <jeddy3> ^Odd^, should work fine, afaik, but then again i don't have a nvidia card
[12:01] <^Odd^> jeddy3, the opengl extensions list is not showing anything
[12:01] <sethk> variant, well, ok ....  :)
[12:01] <jeddy3> ^Odd^, don't think they need to
[12:01] <^Odd^> OpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 76.67
[12:01] <^Odd^> OpenGL extensions:
[12:01] <^Odd^> shane@FoamY:~$
[12:01] <^Odd^> see nothing there
[12:01] <Chillien> I just want to mount the damn 250gb and use as storage...TT
[12:02] <sethk> ^Odd^, is that text from /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:02] <^Odd^> Chillien, calm down man we will get it worked out
[12:02] <^Odd^> no that is from a command
[12:02] <variant> Chillien: sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt
[12:02] <jeddy3> ^Odd^, no, but it's cut with grep...if you look at whole glxinfo output it's there
[12:02] <variant> Chillien: put what you want to store in /mnt
[12:02] <^Odd^> sethk, glxinfo | grep -i opengl
[12:02] <Chillien> at least the support here is super compared to others where u actually pay
[12:02] <variant> Chillien: add it to fstab with "users" option to allow access from non root users
[12:03] <intelikey> Chillien from what the screen shot looks like to me.  you also messed the partition type on /dev/hda1  to 82 rather than 83  it's calling it swap now.  mounted on /    that's an issue.     now before i confues you any more, let sethk or who ever it is helping you finish helping.
[12:03] <Chillien> do I need to add anything to the command:sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt
[12:03] <JackAce> he he.. I got my mother to switch to Linux, at the age of 65. she tried Ubuntu and toght it wasnt so diffiult to use after all, and she is feels good about not having to give any money to the richest man on earth, feels good to use a computer without supporting monopolystic big corps and stuff like that. You dont hear many 70 year old ladies talking like that (not many of them using computers in the first place)
[12:03] <sethk> ^Odd^, the place to look is /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  you will see the modules load, or you will see a message telling you why it didn't load
[12:03] <JackAce> but anyway
[12:03] <variant> Chillien: no
[12:03] <JackAce> I was here to ask about Socat
[12:03] <jeddy3> JackAce, haha nice =)
[12:03] <variant> Chillien: that will mount it so taht only root can write to that disk.
[12:04] <sethk> Chillien, that will work.  /mnt/something is better; but for now it is ok
[12:04] <^Odd^> sethk thank you
[12:04] <variant> Chillien: if you want your user account to be able to do it then you should add the partition to /etc/fstab
[12:04] <JackAce> Anyone knows how to get incoming connections despite ISP NAT?
[12:04] <Chillien> hmm, so I did sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt it thought for a while and then I could eneter a new command
[12:04] <variant> Chillien: just copy one of the existing lines making sure that you have auto,rw,users in the options line
[12:04] <variant> Chillien: thats it mounted
[12:04] <variant> Chillien: you can now add files to /mnt (only as root though)
[12:05] <Chillien> after that, I write :/mnt/stuff?
[12:05] <jeddy3> JackAce, but often it seems that people with less computer experience tend to do great with linux...as opposed to those with windows habits
[12:05] <JackAce> woah I typed mom's age wrong -twice! that's 67 (like if someone cares, ok...)
[12:06] <Chillien> I dont want to continue after typing in  sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt   cause I just know I will do something wrong
[12:06] <intelikey> JackAce dito that.  put my mother on mdk 10   cause i got tired of fixing her M$ crap all the time.   that was a year ago when she turned 64  i'v had to take the printer off pause is the only thing she has called me for sense.
[12:07] <JackAce> jeddy3 I used windows myself for years, I started thinking about linux like 2-3 years ago but I actually did the switch only last november (and it feels like 2 -3 years too late)
[12:07] <YukiCuss> jeddy3, you're absolutely right.
[12:07] <intelikey> jeddy3 prezactly.    thinking you know about windows makes you unable to function on linux....
[12:07] <YukiCuss> jeddy3, you may like to read this, just for fun: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:07] <Chillien> variant I dont want to continue after typing in  sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt   cause I just know I will do something wrong
[12:07] <JackAce> one of the biggest problems about linux is that people who never tried or even seen it, are "sure" it difficult to use and for-geeks-only.
[12:08] <variant> Chillien: that just means that the partition has been mounted to /mnt
[12:08] <variant> Chillien: and anything you put in /mnt will be stored on that disk
[12:08] <Chillien> ok...
[12:08] <YukiCuss> JackAce, the trick is to get someone with no experience with computers at all; hopefully they won't know the difference between Linux or Windows, and accept everything as `given' :
[12:08] <Chillien> but thats a silly name?
[12:08] <YukiCuss> :)*
[12:08] <variant> Chillien: type mount on its own to tell you what is mounted where and with what options
[12:09] <variant> Chillien: whats silly?
[12:09] <intelikey> be back in a bit.
[12:09] <Chillien> It is inside a fodler called mnt?
[12:09] <pedrocr> how do I correctly mount a CD with a iso8859-1 encoding for filenames?
[12:09] <variant> Chillien: you can mount anything anywhere so its entirely up to you what its called and where it is
[12:09] <variant> Chillien: kinda yeah
[12:09] <Chillien> lol, how cofusing
[12:09] <variant> pedrocr: mount /dev/cdrom
[12:09] <jeddy3> JackAce, yeah me to...but apart from us who knows computers GOOD, and those who have little experience...the ones who gets problems is the ones that have/think they have some experience...those are the ones who whine about word and photoshop and whatnot :P
[12:10] <variant> pedrocr: the mount command will do what is reuired
[12:10] <Chillien> but I cant find  the fodler /mnt
[12:10] <jeddy3> JackAce, if i'm making any sense =)
[12:10] <variant> Chillien: ls /mnt
[12:10] <JackAce> bad pubblicity. I do promote Ubuntu as a very good first distro, and even offer to install and configure it (on dual boot if requested) "completely free", still no one  inrested so far
[12:10] <variant> Chillien: or ls /
[12:10] <Chillien> nothing happened
[12:10] <variant> Chillien: remember that "/" is right at the top so /mnt is the next down
[12:10] <JackAce> jeddy3 I get it
[12:10] <pedrocr> variant: it's not working
[12:10] <variant> Chillien: thats because its empty
[12:10] <variant> pedrocr: what errror?
[12:10] <pedrocr> variant: no, error, just broken filenames
[12:11] <variant> pedrocr: in what way broken?
[12:11] <jeddy3> JackAce, it's always fun to here experiences like that, anyway =)
[12:11] <pedrocr> variant: in nautilus they appear with ?? in place of accented characters and (Invalid Encoding) at the end
[12:11] <JackAce> it "is" actually like that. I'kinda "advanched user" andf have screwed up my computer way more times than the average cant-do-nothing user
[12:11] <Chillien>   omg, but if I cant find or browse it how the hell would I store stuff in it?
[12:11] <pedrocr> variant: in the shell it's just the ??
[12:11] <variant> pedrocr: if they have a lot of "?" in them its because you dont have support for those characters
[12:12] <Chillien> I found it, but it has to be that name, and is it still   Windows NTFS?
[12:12] <jeddy3> JackAce, thats what makes you learn :)
[12:12] <JackAce> jeddy3 you know anything about how to get past ISP NAT?
[12:12] <sethk> JackAce, really?  I messed up on a first installation, after that I chose expert mode and I've had not a single error over a substantial period of time.
[12:12] <variant> Chillien: in nautilus go up untill you come to / then click on /mnt
[12:12] <ibooij> hi, is anybody here running PostgreSQL server 8.1 on their Ubuntu dapper machine?
[12:12] <pedrocr> variant: no, that's not it, they're just latin1 characters
[12:12] <pitti> ibooij: yes, me, I'm the psql dude for Debian and Ubuntu :)
[12:12] <variant> pedrocr: trust me it is.. nautilus is lacking support in your case
[12:12] <JackAce> jeddy3 yes. I learned virtually everything I know about computer by screwing up stupp
[12:13] <sethk> JackAce, I do, but why do you want to get past it?
[12:13] <ibooij> I'm having trouble installing. package postgresql-common is giving preconfigure errors..
[12:13] <jeddy3> JackAce, sorry no, i have the fredom to configure my own firewall/NAT
[12:13] <pedrocr> variant: I can name filenames with the characters that are not there
[12:13] <Chillien> Variant, so it says 250GB free space, but how do I know that its not Windows NTFS?
[12:13] <pitti> ibooij: yep, I fixed that this morning
[12:13] <variant> Chillien: right click and select properties
[12:13] <pitti> ibooij: try 48ubuntu3
[12:13] <Chillien> variant and there is a hdd1 on / which I cant access bugging the shit out of me
[12:13] <pedrocr> variant: so how can that be?
[12:13] <variant> Chillien: or type mount on the command line and it will list /dev/hdd1 /mnt type etc
[12:14] <variant> Chillien: thats just a folder
[12:14] <ibooij> pitti: I'll have a look at what version I'm trying to instaal
[12:14] <odat> how do i make a script?
[12:14] <variant> Chillien: that you have created
[12:14] <variant> Chillien: you can delete it
[12:14] <Chillien> Variant there is nothing in mnt properties
[12:14] <JackAce> jeddy3 to get incoming connections is the "official" answer, like getting faster BitTorrent and stuff, but the "real" reason is....
[12:14] <variant> Chillien: or its the way nautilus is trying to make things easy for you but only confusing you instead
[12:14] <ibooij> pitti: I see it. My mirror has 48ubuntu2
[12:14] <variant> Chillien: type mount on the cmmand line
[12:14] <pedrocr> variant: got it to work, passing iocharset=utf8 in the comand line
[12:14] <Chillien> ok...
[12:14] <variant> pedrocr: cool
[12:15] <oskude> odat, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[12:15] <pitti> ibooij: yep; dapper version number has recently been changed from 6.04 to 6.06, and p-common stumbled over that (it still expected 6.04)
[12:15] <Chillien> Inside the terminal?
[12:15] <pitti> ibooij: I made that more robust for future changes, too
[12:15] <Chillien> variant Type mount in the terminal?
[12:16] <JackAce> jeddy3 the real reason is that my ISP is a real a***ole; they wont let me port forward: to get incoming connections I have to send a request *and they charge* 4 euros a day (!) or 50 euro-cents an hour (!!) for being accessible from the ouside
[12:16] <variant> Chillien: yes
[12:16] <jeddy3> JackAce, eh?, man that sucks
[12:16] <Chillien> variant /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:16] <ibooij> pitti: ok, that figures. Thanks for the help, I appreciate it!
[12:17] <Hirvinen_> JackAce: In which country?
[12:17] <JackAce> jeddy3, so the reason is, that I think they shouldnt be doing that, and I want to be able to get at least a couple of symbolic incomung connections, just to say "I did it, you bastard"
[12:17] <oskude> JackAce, OMG
[12:17] <Chillien> varaint /dev/hdd1 on /mnt type reiserfs (rw)
[12:17] <JackAce> oskude OMG?
[12:18] <variant> Chillien: which one is it?
[12:18] <jeddy3> JackAce, hehe, sounds like a good statement =)...but i don't know ho to help you there...
[12:18] <Chillien> variant /dev/hdd1 on /mnt type reiserfs (rw)
[12:18] <Chillien>  that one
[12:18] <variant> Chillien: oh never mind.. yeah
[12:18] <variant> Chillien: cool.. everything is fine then
[12:18] <pnookster> hiya, i'm trying to compile some C - I keep getting an error that I'm missing /usr/bin/ld
[12:18] <pnookster> but i've installed binutils
[12:18] <Chillien> but, Cant I have the discs as  C and D bla bla
[12:18] <JackAce> jeddy3 I was thinking about Socat. I tried a couple of lines but it didnt really worked (I tested using Azureus)
[12:19] <Chillien> variant that has fun names etc
[12:19] <pnookster> what package am I missing that has ld in it?
[12:19] <variant> Chillien: no, this is not windows.. you can name them whatever you want
[12:19] <Chillien> variant and what about the annyoing hdd1 which is bugging the shit out of me
[12:19] <JackAce> jeddy3 "test using Azureus, I mean I did run Azureus to see if I could get some incoming connections using Socat. Didnt work
[12:19] <variant> Chillien: my friend has disks named big_momma etc
[12:19] <variant> Chillien: where is that ?
[12:20] <Chillien> variant under computer:///
[12:20] <variant> Chillien: thats just nautilus being extreemly gay
[12:20] <Chillien> variant how do I delete it?
[12:20] <variant> Chillien: dunno.. its probably a config option
[12:20] <variant> Chillien: i hate nautilus
[12:21] <Chillien> variant fuck it! how stupid, I hate having folders and stuff I cant modify OR delete
[12:21] <Chillien>   /cry
[12:21] <variant> Chillien: they are really trying to hide the way things really work from users in favour of rubbish like computer:///// which doesnt actualy mean anything or relate to any part of your system. its just confusing
[12:21] <pnookster> varient: what do you think of rox?
[12:22] <pnookster> er..variant. sorry. been up way too long :D
[12:22] <jeddy3> JackAce, yeah i got that...but sorry, i have no experiences of ISP nat/portforwarding
[12:22] <Chillien> variant but u have no idea how to get ridd of it?
[12:22] <variant> pnookster: its ok, not used it for a couple of years though.. has it improved?
[12:22] <pnookster> i dunno.
[12:22] <pnookster> haha.
[12:22] <variant> Chillien: no.. im on a windows box at work so i cant check for you
[12:22] <pnookster> i'm trying to set up fluxbox + fluxspace
[12:22] <variant> pnookster: not a bad idea
[12:22] <pnookster> to try it out
[12:22] <Chillien> variant, I need to reboot, cya
[12:22] <variant> Chillien: later
[12:22] <JackAce> I have gotten Gnome to look better following a HowTo on ubuntuforum.org (dont have the exact URL) title was: stealing kde's eye candy. really worth it
[12:22] <pnookster> i've used fluxbox a bit, but never with fluxspace/rox
[12:23] <Chillien> variant thanks for the help preciate it
[12:23] <variant> im going for my break
[12:23] <variant> later all
[12:23] <JackAce> jeddy3 no problem. maybe you have some idea about a better channel to ask such a quesion? something like less crowded, more port-forward-oriented (?) something like that...
[12:24] <jeddy3> JackAce, no idea :/
[12:24] <JackAce> ok
[12:24] <JackAce> hmmm+
[12:25] <ic56> pnookster: AFAIK, ld should be in binutils.  The package description says so.  Maybe something went wrong during the binutils install?
[12:25] <pnookster> you'd think it would be, considering the desc of the package
[12:25] <pnookster> i found it though, it's in libc6
[12:26] <JackAce> yeah there was another question
[12:26] <Chillien> haehaeh, variant after a reboot I dont have the space inside the folder anymore
[12:26] <pnookster> gah. apparently fluxspace needs x11, not x.org
[12:26] <pnookster> laame
[12:26] <ic56> pnookster: what's the exact path?
[12:26] <Chillien> omg, how retarded, I give up
[12:27] <pnookster>  /usr/bin/ld
[12:27] <JackAce> about a "make" error. Now I have to re-run "make" so I can post the exact output line
[12:27] <pnookster> but like i said, i found it
[12:27] <patrick52222> im having problems with java  does any one no how to get java working other than the restricted format page
[12:27] <pnookster> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[12:27] <ic56> pnookster: where did you find it?
[12:27] <pnookster> libc6-dev
[12:28] <ic56> pnookster: where did you find it?  what *path*?
[12:28] <oskude> !build-essential
[12:28] <ubotu> somebody said build-essential was a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[12:28] <pnookster> Oh.
[12:28] <Chillien> When a opearting system can make u cry, its bad
[12:28] <pnookster> It's where it's supposed to be now, i just didn't know the package it was in.
[12:28] <sethk> pnookster, it works with both of them
[12:28] <marik_> how do i change the dhcp timeout ?
[12:28] <Aisi> Chillien: getting support over IRC can make one weep. giving can be just as hard :S
[12:28] <pnookster> hmm
[12:29] <marik_> i dont like having to wait so long while booting
[12:29] <Chillien> Well, I cant see a better way. I dont know anyone that uses linux and lives nearby
[12:29] <pnookster> im getting an error on /.config saying it can't find X, though
[12:29] <Chillien> but I must say its not realy user friendly, lol
[12:29] <patrick52222> how do i install java for stuff like limewire
[12:30] <JackAce> Anybody knows what package I need to install to be able to run the command "gmake"? (I installed something called "gmake, still that command doesnt work, and yess the directory is in the path)
[12:30] <patrick52222> wat gmake] 
[12:31] <marik_> anyone know how to change the default timeout time for dhcp in the init scripts?
[12:31] <Chillien> Windows here I come, I need a media drive and to play CS. I cant take all this frustration
[12:31] <pnookster> brb
[12:31] <Aisi> Chillien: nothing is. giving support for any system over IRC usually end up with three or for people giving different instructions, and the person on the receiving side often ends up with a half done mess. best to start as you did, then pick the most helpful person and take it to another more private channel. <finishes being longwinded>
[12:31] <JackAce> I ask that about gmake because the installing instructions for a packege called cheops-ng specifically say to run gmake after ./configure
[12:31] <Chillien> well, now the whole syste mis messed up
[12:31] <patrick52222> by cs you mean counter strike yeh
[12:31] <Chillien> yes
[12:32] <pnookster> sorry, whoever queried me - forgot i couldnt change to queries in xterm / irssi heh
[12:32] <Chillien> I tried installing wine on my own last night, lol it was a nightmare, I just deleted the folder in the end
[12:32] <JackAce> jeddy3 you know anything qabout gmake? (sorry I keep bugging you, that's because you are the only one who answers to me)
[12:32] <patrick52222> wat about Cedega
[12:32] <Aisi> Chillien: hehe. wine isn't for beginners, no matter what people might tell you :p
[12:33] <patrick52222> chillien: have you tried Cedega
[12:33] <Aisi> Chillien: indeed a lot of things aren't :(
[12:33] <Chillien> Thats what I hate about Linux
[12:33] <patrick52222> how do i install java for stuff like limewire
[12:33] <pnookster> but yeah, sethk - fluxspace does work with x.org?
[12:33] <Chillien> everything becomes harder to do, now why would I want that?
[12:33] <Aisi> best to start with small expectations... say, using it for messing about with for a while
[12:34] <oskude> JackAce, i have never heard about "gmake" and "apt-cache search gmake" dont find it, so maybe its a script that came with the package you got...
[12:34] <sfaris> Chillien, its not harder :)
[12:34] <skypa> crw-rw----  1 root video 81, 0 2006-03-28 04:59 /dev/video0
[12:34] <pnookster> not harder.. just different :D
[12:34] <skypa> a user which is in the group video should have access to that, shouldn't he?
[12:34] <JackAce> oskude, no it did not
[12:34] <Chillien> it is, u have go through all these commandoes and shit just to run or install a program. When in Win u just double click an icon
[12:34] <Aisi> it is harder. especially because so many people don't know how to use it, and less can teach it
[12:35] <oskude> Chillien, whats hard on synaptic ?
[12:35] <pnookster> mm, for everyday tasks, not including installing and configuring software, i'd say ubuntu is a lot easier than windows
[12:35] <pnookster> at least, if you don't want to use wireless g.. eheh
[12:35] <sfaris> once you LEARN its not hard
[12:35] <oskude> just use "linux friendly" hardware...
[12:35] <Khamael> is pocketpc`s (winCE) supported in ubuntu?
[12:35] <JackAce> and the package is not really a package, sorry, I typed wrong. I was actually talking about a souce code that needed to compile. (cheops-ng) there is a pre-compiled cheops package in repositories,but that's not -ng (new generation)
[12:36] <ic56> skypa: yes, a user in group video should have read and write access.
[12:36] <oskude> Khamael, no, but there are other linux pocket pc distros, try google
[12:36] <JackAce> (previous msg was to oskude)
[12:36] <pnookster> oskude: heh, unfortunately i got my linksys g card before I tried out ubuntu. ndiswrapper was fun to try and set up before it was in apt, lemme tell ya.....
[12:36] <Chillien> I dont have synaptic or wahtever
[12:36] <sfaris> Chillien: System -> ADministration -> synaptics
[12:36] <Chillien> I had to use automatix to easily install stuff I needed
[12:36] <oskude> !automatix
[12:36] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:36] <Khamael> oskude: don`t want linux on my pocketpc, I want to sync documents and mail
[12:36] <Chillien> well, there is nothing I need in Synaptic
[12:37] <sfaris> err?
[12:37] <oskude> Khamael, hmm, dunno. maybe there are program to do that...
[12:37] <skypa> ic56, ty
[12:37] <matt_> hello
[12:37] <sfaris> almost everything you need is actually in Synaptic :)
[12:37] <JackAce> anyway, I ran the "classic" make and make install and it look like itr worked (I did get error yesterday, I must have installed some missing package in the meantime... but I dont know what package) OK, going to try if it works...
[12:37] <bobbyd_> hi
[12:38] <bobbyd_> what's the best way to get a 2.16.15 kernel on breezy?
[12:38] <matt_> anyone answer a question about Xgl?
[12:38] <bobbyd_> matt: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:38] <oskude> !xgl
[12:38] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[12:38] <heatxsink> matt_:  I think there's a dedicated Xgl ubuntu channel for that
[12:38] <skypa> bobby, google for the 2.6.15 ubuntu dapper sources and build it yourself
[12:38] <heatxsink> bobby:  :-) thanks
[12:38] <matt_> yeah nobody talking there
[12:39] <JackAce> yes it works. I must have installed the missing package and didnt even know...
[12:39] <Chillien> sfaris  Synaptic doesnt have  Wine or cedega installs, only noob apps
[12:39] <bobbyd_> skypa: can't I just pin that package and grab the dapper one somehow?
[12:39] <skypa> nah, iirc there are a _lot_ unmet deps
[12:39] <skypa> +of
[12:40] <oskude> Chillien, wine is not needed in linux... its just for compability...
[12:40] <patrick52222> can some one help me on this error
[12:40] <oskude> !wine
[12:40] <bobbyd_> skypa: ok ta
[12:40] <patrick52222> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10969
[12:40] <Killgore> its helpful
[12:40] <oskude> Chillien, and wine IS in ubuntu repos...
[12:41] <Chillien> repos?
[12:41] <oskude> !repos
[12:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:41] <Killgore> hey everyone are there drivers for old non-ati/nvida video cards?
[12:41] <Chillien> oskude I said cedega or whatever the name was
[12:41] <patrick52222> can some one help me on this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10969, its a java installing problem
[12:41] <bobbyd_> Killgore unfortunatly, yes :)
[12:42] <bobbyd_> Killgore most of them will just work
[12:42] <Killgore> bobbyd: i need them. I think
[12:42] <oskude> patrick52222, you need "multiverse" for "java-package" (says my apt-cache)
[12:42] <bobbyd_> Killgore what's your card?
[12:42] <Killgore> patrick52222: you dont have th
[12:42] <Killgore> bobbyd: SiS Trident Blade 3D
[12:42] <intelikey> i back
[12:42] <vladuz976> is anybody here operating an ipod nano successfully on ubuntu?
[12:42] <bobbyd_> Killgore and it doesn't work?
[12:42] <matt_> nobody in the Xgl channel.. anyone here with experience?
[12:42] <oskude> Chillien, and wine.... cedega has copyrights for inluding, so you have to compile it yourslef from cvs, or buy it...
[12:43] <Killgore> bobbyd_: im trying to get higher resolutions
[12:43] <Chillien> Well, I dunno what type of    WINE TO USE since there are 20 different things I can check for download
[12:43] <patrick52222> killgore: i dont have wat?
[12:43] <Killgore> patrick52222: multiverse and universe repositories
[12:43] <Killgore> !repo
[12:43] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Killgore
[12:43] <oskude> Chillien, apt-cache show wine
[12:43] <Killgore> !repositories
[12:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:43] <intelikey> repos   ^
[12:43] <Killgore> patrick52222: use that first link and follow the guide
[12:44] <patrick52222> i have enable multi and universe from  the link on the restricted format page
[12:44] <oskude> patrick52222, then you need to do "sudo apt-get update" to get the list of new things...
[12:44] <intelikey> patrick52222 update and then install
[12:44] <oskude> patrick52222, and then install normally
[12:44] <Chillien> I tried to follow the HOW TO tut but I didnt get it, I managed to open steam install but after that...
[12:45] <vladuz976> anybody here using gtkpod successfully? please let me know how
[12:45] <ubushine> vladuz976, depends what you mean by 'successfully'?
[12:45] <patrick52222> nope still keep getting same error
[12:45] <Killgore> tried it but it was too slow
[12:45] <Killgore> after sudo apt-get update?
[12:46] <vladuz976> ubushine: i can't write to the ipod, i get permission denied
[12:46] <vladuz976> don't know what else to try
[12:46] <patrick52222> yeh after sudo apt-get update
[12:46] <_jason> patrick52222: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[12:46] <ubushine> vladuz976, that's a mounting problem, not gtkpod probelm
[12:46] <Chillien> U need to be a magician to get  ubuntu to work...lol
[12:46] <vladuz976> ubushine: true, but still i only have it using gtkpod, and only with ipod, so i am looking for a solution
[12:47] <patrick52222> _jason: it say permision denied how do i get in
[12:47] <_jason> patrick52222: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:47] <Killgore> sudo
[12:47] <Killgore> well
[12:47] <pnookster> or nano
[12:47] <Killgore> i guess not becuase he only has to read it
[12:47] <pnookster> <3 nano for a quick edit
[12:47] <Chillien> after installing  Wine, where do I find it?
[12:47] <ubushine> vladuz976, after you solve your mounting problem, you may want to try yamipod: http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/home/
[12:47] <bobbyd_> Killgore: your problem will be your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/
[12:48] <bobbyd_> Killgore: find the cirect hsync and vsync params for your monitor
[12:48] <bobbyd_> Killgore: and put them in there
[12:48] <patrick52222> _jason: here ya go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10970
[12:48] <Killgore> bobbyd_:  yes ive looked there and added in new resolutions but X wont let me go over 1024/768
[12:48] <bobbyd_> Killgore: have you set up your monitor correctly?
[12:48] <Killgore> bobbyd_:  it already has values in there. Could they be wrong?
[12:48] <bobbyd_> Killgore: what does the X log say
[12:48] <_jason> patrick52222: you have only enabled multiverse for backports.  You don't have breezy multiverse.  Do you want ot fix this using synaptic or by editing the file directly?
[12:49] <vladuz976> ubushine: it actually mounts fine
[12:49] <bobbyd_> Killgore: yes definitely, google for your monitor make and model and "hsync"
[12:49] <Aisi> Chillien: join me in #aisi
[12:49] <Killgore> bobbyd_: thanks ill try that
[12:49] <patrick52222> _jason: synaptic
[12:49] <ubushine> vladuz976, oh? you can write to it with nautalis or from terminal?
[12:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell patrick52222 about repos
[12:49] <intelikey> monitorworld.com
[12:50] <_jason> patrick52222: read the wiki page carefully.  It may help to press ctrl+f, type multiverse, and then read every sentence that contains the word multiverse
[12:50] <oskude> intelikey, nice site, thnx :)
[12:50] <intelikey> oskude helps to know where to look.
[12:51] <intelikey> google dont like me
[12:52] <Killgore> wow my monitor is old -> December 1996
[12:52] <X3N_> How would one go about moving my ubuntu installation to another hard disk ?
[12:52] <pnookster> i dont WANT to know how old my monitor is eheh
[12:52] <vladuz976> ubushine: no actually  not even that way
[12:52] <pnookster> viewsonic 19" ... who knows
[12:52] <vladuz976> ubushine: any idea how i can change that
[12:52] <pnookster> all i know is that it's going bad ;-; haha
[12:52] <ubushine> vladuz976, so it's not mounting properly is it?
[12:52] <intelikey> Killgore it may not do more than 1024 then
[12:52] <patrick52222> _jason: cheers it now doin the install thanks for ya help
[12:52] <vladuz976> ubushine: correct, something wrong iwth permisssions
[12:53] <_jason> patrick52222: np
[12:53] <ubushine> vladuz976, what format does the ipod have?
[12:53] <vladuz976> ubushine: vfat
[12:53] <ubushine> vladuz976, how are you mounting it?
[12:53] <patrick52222> _jason: is there away to check it java installed
[12:53] <Killgore> intelikey: no ive gone up to 1280x1024 in windows
[12:53] <_jason> patrick52222: 'java -version'
[12:53] <vladuz976> ubushine: i mean i mount it to /mnt/ipod, root owns /mnt
[12:53] <Healot> ""auto"" is a better option
[12:54] <ubushine> vladuz976, and again. how are you mounting it?
[12:54] <intelikey> Killgore windows lies to you also.....
[12:54] <vladuz976> ubushine: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/ipod /mnt/ipod
[12:54] <Killgore> intelikey: but it makes things smaller ;) unlike linux
[12:54] <vladuz976> ubushine: /dev/ipod is actually /dev/sda2
[12:54] <pnookster> my poor little 6gb hard drive.. sigh
[12:55] <pnookster> its going to die with all the development headers i'm installing xD i think im up to 60mb of these guys so far
[12:55] <intelikey> Killgore yeah.   fonts size may help you there.
[12:55] <marik_> no one knows how to change the timeout of dhcp during the boot process?
[12:55] <marik_> dhcpcd*
[12:55] <vladuz976> ubushine: i put /dev/ipod  /mnt/ipod  vfat  sync,nodev,nosuid,user,rw,noauto 0 0
[12:55] <pnookster> sorry, no clue... i usually just ctrl-c it if i know it's not gonna be successful
[12:55] <vladuz976> ubushine: in my fstab and mount with sudo mount /mnt/ipod
[12:56] <intelikey> marik_ i would think that you would need to get into the init scripts for that.  but there maybe a way in network/
[12:57] <marik_> intelikey, all i need to do is append -t 15 to the dhcpcd command..
[12:57] <ubushine> you have /dev/ipod /mnt/ipod in your fstab file?
[12:57] <vladuz976> ubushine: yes
[12:57] <pnookster> YAY fluxspace successfully compiled
[12:57] <pnookster> i feel like i need a cig after that
[12:57] <pnookster> haha
[12:57] <intelikey> marik_ i don't run init.d/network at boot but that might be the place.    edit with caution.
[12:58] <ubushine> vladuz976, what's /dev/ipod? is there such a thing? isn't it /dev/sdax?
[12:58] <patrick52222> how do i make the terminal go to desktop is it like cd ~/Desktop
[12:58] <pnookster> ~/.Desktop i do believe
[12:58] <intelikey> yep
[12:58] <patrick52222> ok
[12:58] <BlueHeron> just ~/Desktop
[12:58] <vladuz976> ubushine: it's actually /dev/sda2 but i wanna reserver those for the digicam,  i am using udev to create /dev/ipod
[12:58] <pnookster> ah
[12:58] <pnookster> i dont like sticking things on my desktop, so i hardly ever drop to terminal there .. .sry for the bad info ;)
[12:59] <ubushine> vladuz976, ah.
[12:59] <patrick52222> ~/Desktop dont work
[12:59] <vladuz976> ubushine: i tried with /dev/sda2 before but same problem
[12:59] <intelikey> i don't have a desktop  so i never have that problem
[12:59] <pnookster> haha
[12:59] <pnookster> the only thing i like about having a desktop is having my removable drives show up there
[12:59] <patrick52222> cd ~/Desktop   did
[12:59] <ubushine> vladuz976, have you tried vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 instead of all the other options you give in fstab?
[01:00] <vladuz976> ubushine: no
[01:00] <intelikey> patrick52222 use   ls -A       it will show you the name.
[01:00] <ubushine> vladuz976, that's all i have and it writes no problem
[01:00] <vladuz976> ubushine: you using ipod ?
[01:00] <ubushine> vladuz976, yup. formated with hfs first then vfat. both worked about the same
[01:00] <sungod> how use my ppc at ubuntu
[01:01] <Killgore> does the vsync and hsync values change with whatever graphics card is being used?
[01:01] <vladuz976> ubushine: what's the difference?
[01:01] <Killgore> for example a better graphics card can output higher values?
[01:01] <intelikey> Killgore no   they are monitor specific
[01:01] <Killgore> because im getting a lot of different values for v and hsync from different sites
[01:01] <BlueHeron> uhh uhh uhh
[01:01] <BlueHeron> back up chump!
[01:01] <vladuz976> how can i get the new fstab working without reboot?
[01:02] <Killgore> intelikey: should i go with the ones on the Dell website then?
[01:02] <ubushine> vladuz976, hfs is Mac specific and the other is for windows. in case i want to use a Mac to transfer files, i wanted to play with it.
[01:02] <intelikey> if it lists your monitor, yes Killgore
[01:02] <Killgore> k
[01:02] <Killgore> vladuz976: sudo umount -a
[01:02] <Killgore> then sudo mount -a
[01:02] <vladuz976> ubushine: u know how i can get the edited fstab working
[01:02] <ubushine> vladuz976, i've never played with udev though. i just usually let ubuntu take care of mounting it with /dev/sdax
[01:03] <ubushine> vladuz976, what do you mean?
[01:03] <vladuz976> says device busy
[01:03] <vladuz976> for umount -a
[01:03] <Killgore> stop busying it then ;)
[01:03] <Killgore> do you have any programs open that are using it?
[01:03] <vladuz976> not the ipod
[01:03] <intelikey> Killgore how you "stop busying" /    ?
[01:03] <ubushine> vladuz976, get out of the directory?
[01:04] <variant> vladuz976: what have you added to the fstab?
[01:04] <Killgore> intelikey: dunno :P
[01:04] <vladuz976> variant: /dev/ipod /mnt/ipod ....
[01:04] <variant> vladuz976: so, the new fstab takes effect the instant you save it
[01:04] <vladuz976> oh cool
[01:05] <pnookster> oh FUDGE
[01:05] <sfaris> Chillien: and you are not a noob then?
[01:05] <Khamael> can I get creative zen touch to appear in rhythmbox?
[01:05] <variant> vladuz976: mount /mnt/ipod should now mount your ipod on /mnt/ipod
[01:05] <pnookster> it wasjust the ./configure that worked.
[01:05] <Chillien> ?
[01:05] <Chillien> sfaris ?
[01:05] <vladuz976> variant: ok i'll try
[01:05] <ubushine> vladuz976, try the vfat options i gave you and make your /mnt/ipod directory world readable/writeable and try again
[01:05] <Chillien> sfaris I figured I will give ubuntu up and install Win XP
[01:06] <theine> pnookster: what error message does make give?
[01:06] <sfaris> you said synaptics was for noob apps :)
[01:06] <pnookster> Menu.cc:496: error: no matching function for call to 'FbTk::FbPixmap::FbPixmap(FbTk::FbPixmap)'
[01:06] <Killgore> my friend said make isnt on ubuntu
[01:06] <vladuz976> ubushine: i can write to the dir as user now
[01:06] <Killgore> and i tend to belive him
[01:06] <_jason> Killgore: just install build-essential
[01:06] <theine> pnookster: hmmm, no idea...
[01:06] <vladuz976> ubushine: i don't know how to make it world readalbe
[01:06] <intelikey> Killgore it isn't by default.  you have to install it.
[01:07] <ubushine> vladuz976, it works?
[01:07] <theine> Killgore: your friend is wrong
[01:07] <Killgore> _jason: that would be a better idea than just installing gcc right?
[01:07] <_jason> Killgore: yep
[01:07] <intelikey> theine no
[01:07] <pnookster> yeah
[01:07] <theine> intelikey: what?
[01:07] <pnookster> you can't build executables with just gcc
[01:07] <Toka> Hi everybody
[01:07] <intelikey> -bash: make: command not found
[01:07] <Toka> Anyone care to do a little bit of noob hand holding?
[01:07] <pnookster> i learned that the hard way :D
[01:07] <theine> intelikey: sudo apt-get install make
[01:07] <intelikey> theine unless you install it it isn't there.
[01:07] <theine> intelikey: so?
[01:08] <sfaris> Chillien, ubuntu/linux might seem a bit harder, but all it takes is some learning and you will do fine.. you cant know everything from start, you need experience.. How long have you tried linux/ubuntu?
[01:08] <Killgore> while where on the subject of monitors/graphics cards what happens if i put a new one in? will ubuntu auto-detect it?
[01:08] <ubushine> Toka, just ask
[01:08] <intelikey> and theine don't install make install build-essential
[01:08] <manut> /j #ndiswrapper
[01:08] <vladuz976> ubushine: it works!!!
[01:08] <theine> intelikey: say again?
[01:08] <vladuz976> thanks
[01:08] <manut> uups
[01:08] <ubushine> vladuz976, sweet.
[01:08] <ubushine> vladuz976, what changes did you make?
[01:08] <Chillien> sfaris I am going to use linux to write essays, chat, use Ventrilo and play a game called Counter Strike
[01:08] <intelikey> theine don't install or tell others to install make install build-essential
[01:09] <vladuz976> ubushine: thanks a lot. i was trying to get it to work for a long time today
[01:09] <theine> intelikey: why not?
[01:09] <intelikey> !b-e
[01:09] <ubotu> I guess b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[01:09] <vladuz976> ubushine: the options in fstab
[01:09] <sungod> ....................
[01:09] <vladuz976> ubushine: you told me
[01:09] <Toka> k ubushine
[01:09] <ubushine> vladuz976, cool. congrats. it's fun to play when things work
[01:09] <theine> intelikey: there is no package called "install" by the way...
[01:09] <Toka> I need to reinstall my drivers...well i think i need to
[01:09] <vladuz976> ubushine: you use yumipod?
[01:09] <Toka> My display has defaulted back to 640X480
[01:09] <dealt> greetings
[01:09] <sungod> ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
[01:09] <Toka> and my xorg.conf looks like it did before the driver was installed
[01:10] <ubushine> vladuz976, i play with them both. yami and gtkpod
[01:10] <theine> intelikey: hey! just give me a reason, ok?
[01:10] <theine> intelikey: just saying "don't do it" is not a very strong argument
[01:10] <Killgore> Toka: X doesnt like me either
[01:10] <Toka> lol
[01:11] <Toka> I didn't realise Ubuntu got personal
[01:11] <theine> intelikey: and "install make install build-essential" *doesn't* make sense
[01:11] <Killgore> heheh
[01:11] <Killgore> oh it does
[01:11] <ubushine> Toka, more info please. card type, drivers you used. what you did?
[01:11] <Killgore> theine: tru dat
[01:11] <pnookster> bbiab.. gonna try loading my session with fb :D
[01:11] <intelikey> because if you install make then try to compile something it will fail and you will have to install all the other crap.   b-e is a meta package that depends on all the things that you need to compile software.
[01:11] <dealt> im using ubuntu 5.10. tried installing gforge via grazian.gforge.org/debian source, but i apt says it cannot be installed
[01:11] <intelikey> theine ^
[01:11] <Toka> The NVIDIA installer wants me to kill X but I'm a bit scared if things don't go to plan it's nver gonna start again
[01:12] <Killgore> Toka: startx
[01:12] <manut> hello !
[01:12] <dealt> is this because the packages in grazian are for debian?
[01:12] <ubushine> Toka, always back up xorg.conf!
[01:12] <Toka> eh? It's that simple if things go pearshaped
[01:12] <Toka> k
[01:12] <theine> intelikey: ah! so you want me to recommend "sudo apt-get install build-essential" instead of "sudo apt-get install make", etc...?
[01:12] <manut> I'm trying to install a conceptronic c54rc pcmcia card in my laptop
[01:12] <Toka> So if things go pearshaped I'll get a CL
[01:12] <jmborre> wenas!!
[01:12] <Killgore> Toka: yer and if its really screwed sudo dpkg-reconfigure -i xorg (or something like that)
[01:13] <intelikey> theine don't install, or tell others to install; make.  install build-essential  <--- if punctuation is that important.
[01:13] <theine> intelikey: well that's what i *always* do
[01:13] <ubushine> Toka, so!
[01:13] <Toka> and then i can jus do startx
[01:13] <manut> I've tried both using the native driver and ndiswrapper too, but with any success
[01:13] <Killgore> Toka: CL ftw
[01:13] <theine> intelikey: i just wrote "sudo apt-get install make" to make a point that make is available on Ubuntu
[01:13] <manut> apparently the card is simply never detected, and suspiciously the leds of the card are never on
[01:14] <theine> intelikey: if you want to compile stuff, you should *of course* install build-essential
[01:14] <Killgore> manut: hardware problem?
[01:14] <snowblink> theine, apt-cache search make may be more appropriate in that case
[01:14] <Titan> How come frostwire always messes up on the files I download. Ever single file I download it tells me there is a corruption in the file and when it finishes and listen to the music it allways skips like a record with a scratch. Has anyone had this problem before?
[01:14] <intelikey> glad you finnally got there theine :)
[01:14] <Killgore> awww
[01:14] <theine> snowblink: yeah, or apt-cache show make, or whatever, dood...
[01:15] <Killgore> Titan: whats frostwire?
[01:15] <theine> intelikey: i have been `there' a long time ago
[01:15] <Killgore> !frostwire
[01:15] <intelikey> glad you finnally got there theine :)
[01:15] <manut> Killgore: in windows it works beautifully
[01:15] <Killgore> k
[01:15] <theine> intelikey: you just need to work on your english, man
[01:15] <Titan> Killgore: frostwire is a free version of what Limewire is.
[01:15] <Killgore> manut: Hmmm
[01:15] <theine> intelikey: or grammar, or whatever
[01:15] <Killgore> Titan: ubotu enlightened me ;)
[01:15] <intelikey> i do
[01:15] <theine> intelikey: it's really hard to make sense out of your sentences
[01:16] <Killgore> manut: on laptop right? i guess its a PCMCIA card then
[01:16] <Healot> manut: giving up already?
[01:17] <Titan> What is ubotu? Is it like a bot that has automatic answers to certain questions?
[01:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell Titan about yourself
[01:17] <Killgore> Could frostwire have a similar option to Azures for fat32 on linux?
[01:17] <Toka> ok thanks guys - i think you've given me enough confidence to try and reinstall these drivers
[01:17] <Killgore> Toka: embrace the command line
[01:17] <Toka> I'll no doubt drop in again for your expertise :)
[01:17] <Toka> lol
[01:17] <ubushine> Toka, best luck
[01:17] <Titan> That's cool
[01:18] <Killgore> yay!
[01:18] <Toka> thanks ubushine
[01:18] <Healot> manut: try to output "lsusb" and "lspci" for me, maybe I can help :)
[01:18] <Toka> later all
[01:18] <HaRDaWaY> hi all!!
[01:18] <Killgore> Healot: is he using a PCMCIA card or a usb card
[01:18] <Healot> PC card
[01:19] <giany911> guys can u tell me some good bt client?
[01:19] <Killgore> Healot: maybe the pc card service has been disabled or is not running
[01:19] <Healot> conceptronic c54rc pcmcia card
[01:19] <intelikey> card and socket services ?
[01:19] <Healot> the original Bittorrent is more than enough
[01:19] <Talon> ei, whats a good software for editing videos???
[01:19] <jeddy3> giany911, i use latest official
[01:19] <JuICe> hi
[01:19] <Healot> maybe... he disabled it?
[01:19] <manut> Healot:
[01:19] <HaRDaWaY> mm i have a question...can you help me please? when i try to run some xmms display from gdesklets its return me this message: control for this display not found..(some display as xmms-corner control)..any idea?
[01:19] <Killgore> giany911: there are hundreds ill give you a link to the common ones
[01:19] <manut> lspci | tail -n1
[01:19] <manut> 0000:03:00.0 Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 0302
[01:19] <giany911> ok ty
[01:20] <manut> it's a pcmcia
[01:20] <intelikey> what is modprobe cs-core   ?
[01:20] <Healot> okay.... manut stick with... it's gonna get completed... after this
[01:20] <Healot> conceptronic c54rc pcmcia card
[01:20] <Talon> is Avidemux good?
[01:20] <manut> Healot: ok I'll wait :)
[01:20] <intelikey> err i don't use pcmcia so i forgot what module it is.
[01:21] <JohannesenPB> hi
[01:21] <Healot> manut "dmesg | tail" >> lemme checkout the product/manufacturer id
[01:21] <Killgore> manut: you havent done that Howto on the ubuntu forums about speeding up boot times by any chance?
[01:21] <ubushine> giany911, try azureus. it's very nice. http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
[01:21] <Talon> who here is from the philippines
[01:21] <manut> Killgore: no
[01:21] <Healot> "lsmod", manut, get any "pcmcia"?
[01:21] <giany911> ubushine big resource eater
[01:21] <JohannesenPB> anyone on powerpc here??
[01:21] <manut> Healot: yes
[01:21] <Titan> !tell Titan -about automatix
[01:22] <theine> !automatix
[01:22] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[01:22] <manut> Healot: let's get the product/manufacturer id
[01:22] <ubushine> giany911, yup. uses java... want small. then use CLI. original bt
[01:22] <theine> yeah, that's what i want to hera
[01:22] <giany911> ubushine cli ?
[01:22] <intelikey> so where can i get automatix ?
[01:22] <NiklasH_work> !tell NiklasH_work -about EasyUbunut
[01:22] <ubushine> giany911, command line. terminal. no gui.
[01:22] <Killgore> intelikey: dont
[01:22] <giany911> oo
[01:22] <Healot> yes... manut, what the output  of "dmesg | tail"?
[01:22] <theine> intelikey: read what ubotu said
[01:22] <Killgore> intelikey: get autoubuntu i think its called
[01:22] <intelikey> Killgore ah come on.
[01:22] <giany911> not that good in ubuntu
[01:23] <Killgore> !autoubuntu
[01:23] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Killgore
[01:23] <NiklasH_work> easyubuntu seems more safe
[01:23] <Killgore> ahhh thats it
[01:23] <intelikey> theine yes that's why i asked
[01:23] <Killgore> !easyubuntu
[01:23] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:23] <NiklasH_work> doesn't have to mess with your config files
[01:23] <Healot> manut, try to do this "modprobe pcmcia vendor=0x<manufacturer id> product=0x<product id>"
[01:23] <giany911> ubushine if i use azureus will i need jre? .. i think i can find it in synaptic ?
[01:24] <intelikey> ok if no one will tell me, google "MIGHT" tell me where to get automatix.
[01:24] <theine> intelikey: because you want to use something that is unsafe, overwrites configuration files, and does things that are considered risky? yeah, that's tempting
[01:24] <patrick52222> _jason: after installing the java it says its an older versionthan what i installed
[01:24] <Titan> ubotu tell titan about autoubuntu
[01:24] <Killgore> who was asking about bittorent?
[01:24] <Healot> or "modprobe usbserial vendor=0x<manufacturer id> product=0x<product id>"
[01:24] <ab0rted> hey wouldnt it be better if ubuntu said "linux for humanoid carbon units" instead of "linux for human beings"? ;p
[01:24] <NiklasH_work> intelikey: why not easyubuntu?
[01:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell patrick52222 about multijava
[01:24] <manut> Healot: nothing important in dmesg 1 tail, just a epeated and annoying message: "[4297567.568000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[01:24] <manut> [4297567.568000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known."
[01:24] <intelikey> NiklasH_work no bugs there.
[01:24] <Healot> ab0rted:  you geek
[01:24] <JohannesenPB> someone using WPA and wifi-radar here?
[01:24] <ab0rted> lol
[01:24] <NiklasH_work> ok, lol
[01:24] <egis> :))
[01:24] <ubushine> giany911, i'm pretty sure you need jre. it's an easy download. even from java.com it's simple. use the .bin (binary) file to install
[01:24] <Killgore> anyway here are some popular bittorent clients http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_software
[01:25] <Healot> manut, try to get the manufacturer id and product id of your pc card controller?
[01:25] <NiklasH_work> i'm waiting for the 'Connection reset' from intelikey ... :)
[01:25] <Healot> please do so, and probe the hardware using that command i gave you previously
[01:25] <NiklasH_work> !java-package
[01:25] <ubotu> NiklasH_work: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:25] <NiklasH_work> !make-jpkg
[01:25] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NiklasH_work
[01:25] <Killgore> brb restarting X
[01:26] <theine> !java-package
[01:26] <Healot> !javadebs
[01:26] <manut> Healot: the problem to me is how to do that. I'd better put in pastebin.com the dmesg complete output
[01:26] <Healot> sure
[01:26] <Healot> do that
[01:26] <NiklasH_work> giany911: download the java package, then run make-jpkg on it
[01:26] <patrick52222> _jason: nope still not working im trying to run limewire
[01:26] <intelikey> NiklasH_work it will probably happen.  but not why you expect it to...   my isp resets about this time errr no maybe i was off line when it did it this morning.
[01:26] <theine> I guess ubuto does not know about packages in multiverse?
[01:26] <Healot> don't tail the dmesg output, would be good, manut
[01:26] <_jason> patrick52222: use frostwire instead of limewire would be first recommendation
[01:27] <patrick52222> _jason: will give it ago
[01:27] <Healot> or no p2p
[01:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell patrick52222 about frostwire
[01:27] <Healot> as it is illegal in some countries
[01:27] <Titan> Ok, personal opinion here, what do you guys think is the best bittorent client out there?
[01:27] <_jason> Healot: p2p is illegal where?
[01:27] <Killgore> well thats one X problem solved
[01:27] <Killgore> Titan: look earlier at the link
[01:28] <NiklasH_work> btdownloadcurses. you can run it in a screen session
[01:28] <Killgore> now i have a nice high 85hz refresh rate!
[01:28] <Titan> Killgore: I seen that link but it does not say what is the best or most commonly used.
[01:28] <FredTech> titan: utorrent. will work in linux with the next wine version
[01:28] <patrick52222> _jason: will give it ago
[01:28] <Healot> in china :)
[01:28] <patrick52222> _jason: how will i install it after it is downloaded
[01:28] <_jason> !deb
[01:28] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[01:28] <NiklasH_work> in china, music downloads YOU! :)
[01:28] <manut> Healot: http://pastebin.com/626681
[01:29] <Killgore> Titan: its personal preference. What do you need to do? for example my friend has a Command line BT client to monitor downloads while he is away
[01:29] <giany911> i have pretty complicated problem with a tv tuner
[01:29] <_jason> Healot: ah did not know that
[01:29] <Killgore> NiklasH_work: no its "In soviet russia, music downloads YOU!
[01:29] <NiklasH_work> yah, i know. i was making a clever reference :)
[01:29] <Titan> Killgore: I like to download Music and software. I have not found a good one for downloading software in quite some time though.
[01:29] <Killgore> oh /me taps nose
[01:29] <ubushine> !deb
[01:29] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[01:29] <NiklasH_work> :D
[01:30] <BlueHeron> Titan: azureus
[01:30] <Killgore> Titan: just try the BitTorrent client that comes with ubuntu
[01:30] <Healot> manut: , please do "lspci" AND "lsusb" for me will you?
[01:30] <Killgore> Titan: if you dont like it try Azureus
[01:31] <Killgore> Titan: and what you can download doesnt depend on the client, you have to find the torrents first
[01:31] <Titan> Killgore: ya, I looked at the one that comes with ubuntu, lol don't even know how to get the thing to connect =P
[01:31] <NiklasH_work> piratebay.org is illegal in some countries, don't go there! :)
[01:31] <Titan> Killgore: what is the best place to search for torrents?
[01:31] <theine> and don't go to isohunt.com either!
[01:32] <sfaris> this is off topic
[01:32] <Killgore> Titan: i dont think i should tell you in the public chan
[01:32] <NiklasH_work> but is it illegal to just download the torrent?
[01:32] <Healot> nay
[01:32] <soo> hello
[01:32] <Killgore> no
[01:32] <Healot> but download/sharing the actual content via torrent network may be illegal
[01:33] <Killgore> because all it contains is hash information
[01:33] <pnookster> hrrrm
[01:33] <Healot> as you have not have the right to copy the actual content
[01:33] <pnookster> that was weird.
[01:33] <Killgore> torrents = a bunch of letters and numbes
[01:33] <Killgore> but back on to ubuntu
[01:33] <Healot> as our lawyers said :)
[01:33] <BlueHeron> Killgore: it's called hash :-P
[01:33] <pnookster> mmm hash
[01:33] <pnookster> i mean what?
[01:33] <BlueHeron> < has 4 illegal torrents going now
[01:33] <pnookster> >_>;
[01:33] <giany911> dudes how can i make a file in /etc/modprobe.d ? i need to write something in it
[01:33] <sfaris> Killgore: whats not a bunch of letters and numbers? :)
[01:33] <Killgore> torrents
[01:33] <intelikey> well they certenly made automatix hard enough to get.
[01:34] <Killgore> oh lol
[01:34] <theine> Titan: if you just want to see how bittorrent works, go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ and click on one of the .torrent links
[01:34] <pnookster> so have any of you gotten fluxbox working in ubuntu :D
[01:34] <BlueHeron> automatix sucks thats why
[01:34] <theine> Titan: that's perfectly legal
[01:34] <Killgore> didnt read it properly sfaris ;P
[01:34] <intelikey> oh it's only in breezy.  that's why.  heh
[01:34] <NiklasH_work> intelikey: you still here? I thought your computer would have crashed and burned by now ;)
[01:34] <manut> Healot: http://pastebin.com/626685
[01:34] <BlueHeron> automatix is obviously the devil
[01:34] <Killgore> pnookster: im using blackbox i assume its similar
[01:34] <pnookster> ya, fluxbox is blackbox++
[01:34] <manut> Healot: notice that my card is pcmcia
[01:34] <intelikey> NiklasH_work :)
[01:34] <manut> so usb doesn't seem that interesting I think :P
[01:34] <theine> pnookster: it's in the repositories, isn't it?
[01:35] <pnookster> unfortunately when i choose fluxbox as my session, i just get a blank screen with a mouse
[01:35] <pnookster> sigh
[01:35] <pnookster> yeah, that's where I got it from
[01:35] <Killgore> pnookster: i was recommended to blackbox becuase fluxbox was based on a real early version of blackbox
[01:35] <NiklasH_work> aah, it's great to have opinions about something i don't know anything about (like automatix) :)
[01:35] <intelikey> NiklasH_work i reload my computers os twice a weak whether it needs it or not......
[01:35] <Killgore> pnookster: lol
[01:35] <Healot> nay, manut, some kernels detect pc card as usbserials :)
[01:35] <pnookster> ah.. i haven't looked at blackbox recently
[01:35] <Killgore> pnookster: thats all it is
[01:35] <BlueHeron> intelikey: why
[01:35] <pnookster> killgore: i've used fluxbox before
[01:35] <Enthusiast78> Hi! I have installed ubuntu-desktop over xubuntu-desktop and my terminal is still xfce's terminal. How do I change it to gnome-terminal?
[01:35] <pnookster> this was not fluxbox :>
[01:35] <Killgore> pnookster: try right-clicking :p
[01:36] <intelikey> BlueHeron it was a joke son, a joke.
[01:36] <theine> pnookster: may be try starting it using "startx" and ~/.xinitrc
[01:36] <BlueHeron> intelikey: son lol ?
[01:36] <HaRDaWaY> any howto to install xgl with dapper+ati ?
[01:36] <Healot> "cat /var/log/messages" can't see the ID in lspci
[01:36] <pnookster> killgore: i'm familiar with how fluxbox works..
[01:36] <_jason> Enthusiast78: are you in gnome?
[01:36] <theine> pnookster: might give you a clue about why it's not working
[01:36] <Killgore> pnookster: sorry
[01:36] <pnookster> theine: startx and ~/.xinitrc?
[01:36] <Killgore> from the command line
[01:36] <pnookster> Killgore: no ;)
[01:36] <manut> Healot: ok
[01:36] <Enthusiast78> _jason, No, in xfce. But I have installed xubuntu-desktop over ubuntu-desktop before (the inverse situation) and I got gnome-terminal...
[01:36] <pnookster> np
[01:37] <pnookster> i meant
[01:37] <pnookster> brm. gonna restart this on one of my base terminals. brb.
[01:37] <_jason> Enthusiast78: oh, don't know about xfce
[01:37] <Killgore> there is a place to specify the defauly terminal isnt ther?
[01:37] <Enthusiast78> _jason, I believe there's something about this in the alternatives thing, but I don't know how to use alternatives... Do you have any tips about it?
[01:37] <theine> pnookster: go to the console (ALT-CTRL-F1] ) and type "echo exec $(which fluxbox) > ~/.xinitrc" and then "startx -- :2"
[01:37] <_jason> Enthusiast78: it's system > prefereces > preferred applications in gnome
[01:38] <Killgore> theine: can i have blackbox on one terminal fluxbox, etc etc (i assume it will take up a crap load of ram)
[01:38] <manut> Healot: http://pastebin.com/626686
[01:38] <Enthusiast78> _jason, Not exaclt what I want. I mean that tool that manages the links in /etc/alternatives
[01:38] <_jason> Enthusiast78: well you use update-alternatives like this (with java as an example): sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:38] <theine> Killgore: you sure can
[01:39] <Enthusiast78> _jason, Thanks!
[01:39] <sfaris> wich version of gaim comes with the ubuntu install-cd?
[01:39] <Killgore> sweet
[01:40] <gimmulf> !nvidia
[01:40] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:40] <Enthusiast78> _jason, sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator does it. ;)
[01:40] <Killgore> anyone know if MirandaIM works on linux?
[01:40] <intelikey> oooh nice error...  "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."   hehhe  i forgot i cant use startx.
[01:40] <Healot> tried reinserting the card, manut?
[01:40] <_jason> Enthusiast78: ah, so it does.  good to know
[01:41] <bimberi> sfaris: 1.5.0
[01:41] <jind> The text that appears under boot, is this stored somewhere so I can read exactly what stood there after the boot?
[01:41] <sfaris> thnks
[01:41] <Healot> then do "dmseg | tail", just to make sure
[01:42] <brendan_> help with installing xine, i type sudo apt-get install xine-ui, but it says i need libxine1c2, i try to install that , but i cant
[01:42] <intelikey> jind dmesg   is the command you asked about
[01:43] <_jason> !info libxine1c2
[01:43] <ubotu> libxine1c2: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu10.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3909 kB, Installed size: 10284 kB
[01:43] <jind> I am aware of dmesg :)
[01:43] <_jason> brendan_: do you have the main repository enabled?
[01:43] <jind> But dmesg does not contain the same text. Much is missing
[01:43] <patrick52222> _jason: frostwire doesnt load once its installed
[01:43] <_jason> patrick52222: what happens in a terminal?
[01:43] <brendan_> how do i check?
[01:43] <manut> Healot: no luck
[01:44] <_jason> brendan_: /etc/apt/sources.list , pastebin it if you aren't sure how it works and I'll take a look
[01:44] <patrick52222> _jason: its looks for java
[01:44] <intelikey> jind dmesg contains down to the starting of init.
[01:44] <cion> hey all, I need to use my tv out anyone can help me?
[01:44] <Healot> manut:, I don't car e about luck, just reinsert the card, "dmesg | tail"
[01:44] <_jason> patrick52222: did you follow the special instructions in ubotu's private message?
[01:45] <GnarusLeo> Hi! how would I go about to change my interface from gnome to kde? I have done "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop" ... but shouldnt I change my repos or something?
[01:45] <intelikey> jind anything after init starts MIGHT be found in /var/log/*
[01:45] <jind> intelikey: okai. I didn't know that
[01:45] <_jason> GnarusLeo: did you install kubuntu-desktop you mean?
[01:45] <patrick52222> _jason: where do i get dos2unix to convert
[01:45] <_jason> patrick52222: the sysutils package
[01:46] <GnarusLeo> _jason, yes
[01:46] <brendan_> ok its come up, what am i lookin for here?
[01:46] <_jason> GnarusLeo: when gdm or kdm starts, choose kde from the sessions menu
[01:46] <manut> Healot: I've don't exaclty that, and dmesg showed no new output, that's what I was refering to
[01:46] <GnarusLeo> _jason, Its ok .. im running in kde now .. but some programs dont work (like azureus) and sucj
[01:46] <intelikey> jind less is very good filter for things like that    dmesg | less          less /var/log/messages
[01:46] <_jason> GnarusLeo: hrmm, might want to try #kubuntu
[01:47] <GnarusLeo> patrick52222, you dont need dos2unix ... use nano, ctrl - o, and alt - d to change format :)
[01:47] <sfaris> whats the easies way to shut down X?
[01:47] <Healot> sfaris: , the button :)
[01:47] <sfaris> well, that closes down everything
[01:47] <sfaris> :)
[01:47] <ys76> Hello out there: Could somebody name me a working SCSI-U320-Controller for PCI Express? My Adaptec 29320-ALP is not working properly...
[01:47] <sfaris> whats the easies way to shut down only X?
[01:47] <sfaris> :D
[01:48] <brendan_> whats the main repository
[01:48] <Sergi0> sfaris, ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[01:48] <Enthusiast78> sfaris, add a button that shuts down your window manager...
[01:48] <intelikey> sfaris sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[01:48] <GnarusLeo> sfar-ubu, ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:48] <jind> intelikey: thanks. I'll take that under advisement
[01:48] <bimberi> !components
[01:48] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[01:48] <Killgore> GnarusLeo: that restarts the window manager
[01:48] <sfaris> thanks intelikey
[01:49] <sfaris> ive been told "init 11" also.. would that work?
[01:49] <patrick52222> i just installed sysutils but i cant find it
[01:49] <intelikey> GnarusLeo that wont shut x down. it will only reset it.   not sure which he wants.
[01:49] <Killgore> how do i get gaim to flash the "taskbar" icons like in windows MSN
[01:49] <GnarusLeo> Killgore, it restarts X yes ... also "ps aux | grep X" get the proper pid and "kill -9 <pid>"
[01:49] <Enthusiast78> sfaris, ctrl-alt-bk KILLS X.
[01:49] <_jason> brendan_: can you pastebin it? it's easier to explain that way
[01:49] <Killgore> GnarusLeo: tru dat, pipes rule
[01:49] <_jason> brendan_: and if you preface your messages with my name, I won't miss what you say :)
[01:49] <GnarusLeo> Enthusiast78, no, intelikey's right ... it restarts it
[01:49] <Healot> Enthusiast78: it restarts X,,, does not stop it
[01:50] <Healot> kill the desktop manager script that start X would be the best way
[01:50] <brendan_> _jason okokokk
[01:50] <Enthusiast78> Healot, No, it kills X. It will restart if a login manager is running.
[01:50] <intelikey> does this answer your question sfaris tty1 [root#~]  init 11
[01:50] <intelikey> Usage: init 0123456SsQqAaBbCcUu
[01:50] <Enthusiast78> sfaris, ctrl-alt-bkspace is something 'mean' to do. ;)
[01:51] <Healot> Enthusiast78:  and off course there IS a running dm...
[01:51] <Killgore> who uses gaim here?
[01:51] <intelikey> err could have just said NO.
[01:51] <Healot> then it WILL restarts X
[01:51] <Enthusiast78> Healot, Yup, but still it KILLS X.
[01:51] <Healot> and the dm restart X
[01:51] <sfaris> :)
[01:51] <Healot> hence Ctrl+Alt+<- restart X
[01:52] <sfaris> you are both right, i understand
[01:52] <sfaris> you also understand each other
[01:52] <sfaris> move on
[01:52] <Killgore> lol
[01:52] <sfaris> :)
[01:52] <bimberi> sfaris: you tell them!
[01:52] <intelikey> but it's so much fun to argue the same point for hours......
[01:52] <Killgore> give em a clip over the ears and send em on their way
[01:52] <Killgore> lol @ intelikey
[01:52] <intelikey> spoil sports.
[01:53] <sfaris> haha
[01:53] <Killgore> so gaim
[01:53] <Killgore> who uses it
[01:53] <intelikey> !pool
[01:53] <ubotu> [pool]  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[01:53] <Healot> gaim... me... but not for now
[01:53] <intelikey> !poll
[01:54] <Killgore> !poll?
[01:54] <ubotu> [poll]  asking a question to figure out who is running what in a channel with over 500 in is of questionable value - given that someone wrote something somewhere somewhere is most likely running it, is there anything specific you wanted to ask?
[01:54] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, I use it.
[01:54] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: what kind of message notifications do you use?
[01:54] <NiklasH_work> !poll xterm
[01:54] <ubotu> NiklasH_work: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:55] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, I use that '(*)' in the window title when there's a new message. Also hide new messages in the system tray icon until I click it.
[01:55] <intelikey> the bot used to have the cute !start a blah war   quotes and someone dismissed them....
[01:55] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: how do i do that?
[01:55] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: where in the preferences
[01:56] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, Do you have the Message Notification plugin enabled?
[01:56] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: yeo
[01:57] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: oh tru i see that thanks
[01:57] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, Then go to Message Notification and there you'll find these features. Also on the System Tray Icon preferences there's the hiding feature.
[01:59] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: thanks
[01:59] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, No problem.
[02:00] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: what does the tray icon look like if there is a message waiting
[02:00] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, It blinks with a stick note in it.
[02:01] <Killgore> gimme some questions to answer
[02:01] <_Rappy_> which size should I make /   when /boot and /home has own partitions?
[02:01] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, I've heard about something called 'guifications' that should enable cooler notification methods, but I haven't tried it yet.
[02:02] <ssam> _Rappy_, minimum of 2 gb
[02:02] <Killgore> _Rappy_: / is everything that will be on the drive
[02:02] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: ill look that up
[02:02] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, I'm installing the gaim-guifications package right now... Let's see what it does!
[02:03] <Killgore> _Rappy_: like ssam said minimum of 2gb but realistically it should be about 5-10gb if your planning on having a lot of programs things like that
[02:03] <gimmulf> Hi im having 2 identical tft monitors and is trying to configure xorg.conf with Twinview (new nvidia card) but i only get one of the monitors running.. Would be great if someone could help me getting the other one to work also... This is what my xorg.conf looks like: http://pastebin.com/626715  and this is my Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/626716
[02:04] <Killgore> gimmulf: i wish all questioneers could be this thourough
[02:04] <gimmulf> Killgore:  what? :)
[02:04] <Killgore> gimmulf: you only have one monitor in there
[02:04] <Killgore> gimmulf: oh sorry
[02:05] <Killgore> gimmulf: installed the nvidia drivers?
[02:05] <gimmulf>  the first is in section "monitor" and the second specified in "device"
[02:06] <Killgore> gimmulf: yer i saw that when i read down some more
[02:06] <_Rappy_> Killgore : probably not. It's for an nice old lady I'm setting this up. But then again, she's not likely to have much on /home either. So I'll set it to 10
[02:06] <_Rappy_> tnx ssam and Killgore
[02:06] <gimmulf> Killgore:  i installed nvidia-settings & nvidia-glx .. 10 minutes ago i used an ATI card but i guess it automatically use the nvidia drivers when i installed them
[02:07] <applejack> hello folks
[02:07] <intelikey> !info automatix
[02:07] <idleone_> having sound issues.
[02:07] <idleone_> I can here ubuntu system sounds
[02:07] <idleone_> www.985fm.ca I can listen to np wmmr.com I cant seem to listen to and neither can I listen to shoutcast.com or www.chom.com can someone tell me why?
[02:07] <Killgore> _Rappy_: see old people wont care if they are using XP or linux
[02:07] <applejack> any way to get an ITE8212 IDE controller to work with the boot-cd ?
[02:07] <Killgore> gimmulf: sorry not much experience with dual monitors, just getting my head around configuring xorg
[02:08] <void^> ah, ite8212. be sure to use an 80 pin cable, it doesn't like old cables.
[02:08] <intelikey> idleone_ different format ?
[02:08] <idleone_> intelikey, yes they are all diff formats
[02:08] <graveson> does anyone by chance know how to improve a an audio casette tape recording using audacity
[02:08] <applejack> void^, it doesn't work at all tho,... there doesn't seem to be a driver for it
[02:09] <idleone_> intelikey, but I cant seem to get any of those sites to play for me
[02:09] <void^> applejack: yes, the problem is, the driver hasn't been in the kernel for long..
[02:09] <intelikey> you have the win32codecs installed for restricted formats ?
[02:09] <Killgore> idleone_: what kind of. yeah i was about to say that
[02:09] <idleone_> intelikey, yup I do
[02:09] <applejack> hmmm,....
[02:10] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, I'm trying guifications right now... Really not what I expected... Just some small windows in the corner, like Thunderbird's.
[02:10] <intelikey> idleone_ you just ran me out of aces.  i fold.
[02:10] <applejack> bugger
[02:10] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: and the name had me so worked up :)
[02:10] <idleone_> intelikey, you fold but I'm stuck with a 2H and 4C and Im all in :/
[02:10] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, :)
[02:11] <pedrocr> ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize my keyboard's function keys, anything I can do about it?
[02:11] <cdo> can anyone tell me a C compiler
[02:11] <_jason> cdo: gcc
[02:11] <kbrooks> !faq
[02:11] <ubotu> The most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look - see also !desktopguide
[02:11] <cdo> _jason thanks
[02:11] <kbrooks> !desktopguide
[02:11] <ubotu> [desktopguide]  found on http://help.ubuntu.com and is the definitive guide to configuring your Ubuntu PC!
[02:11] <intelikey> cdo gcc
[02:11] <_jason> cdo: install build-essential to get everything you need to compile stuff
[02:11] <intelikey> oh sorry.  i'm slow.
[02:11] <_Rappy_> Killgore : yep, that's true. It's easier to make non-IT people use linux than IT-profeesionals :)
[02:12] <cdo> _jason thanks again a lot :D
[02:12] <idleone_> how do I check and see if w32codecs is installed properly?
[02:12] <Killgore> _Rappy_: at least we are learning it at uni. just in a really retarded way. The people who have never used linux before are going WTF!!!
[02:13] <_jason> idleone_: did you use the deb?
[02:13] <patrick52222> still cant get java to install the jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-1.bin
[02:13] <idleone_> _jason, easyubuntu
[02:13] <kbrooks> idleone_, um.
[02:13] <intelikey> _Rappy_ that was the scuttel butt about 4 hours ago.   easier to put your granny on linux than a collage kid used to M$ windows.
[02:13] <kbrooks> idleone_, easyubuntu DOES NOT have that feature yet
[02:13] <_jason> idleone_: hrmm, make sure there are a bunch of dll's  in /usr/lib/win32/
[02:13] <kbrooks> idleone_, #easyubuntu
[02:13] <kbrooks> _jason, #easyubuntu
[02:14] <kbrooks> :)
[02:14] <pedrocr> I've solved it for the particular key I wanted with setkeycodes, but why aren't these recognized by default?
[02:15] <idleone_> _jason, there is .dll .ax . and a few .so files
[02:15] <Killgore> hey i found another ubuntu distro last night called nubuntu
[02:15] <Killgore> its network ubuntu
[02:15] <_jason> idleone_: you are probably find then :), just try playing stuff 9sorry for the wrong channel )
[02:16] <kbrooks> Killgore, kewl
[02:16] <Blippe> Killgore, a nice package with sniffers and everything you need :D
[02:16] <idleone_> _jason, I have tried playing them online radio stations but they dont play
[02:16] <Killgore> handy
[02:17] <Killgore> it also has blackbox or fluxbox which is how i found it in the first place
[02:19] <intelikey> well i need to dump about 50m of software.......  this won't be easy.
[02:19] <kbrooks> intelikey, "dump"?
[02:19] <Killgore> usb drive?
[02:19] <Killgore> intelikey: FLOPPY RAID!!!
[02:19] <patrick52222> still cant get java to install the jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-1.bin
[02:20] <Blippe> intelikey, "apt-get clean"
[02:20] <intelikey> hmmm any way to list packages by installation date?
[02:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell patrick52222 about javadebs
[02:20] <intelikey> kbrooks yeah i need the disk space.
[02:20] <intelikey> Killgore almost
[02:21] <intelikey> Blippe hehhe yeah like that would do something here.
[02:21] <Killgore> Floppy raids f'ing rule!!!
[02:22] <oskari> untu-fi
[02:22] <Blippe> intelikey, newly installed?
[02:24] <intelikey> blippe custom installed.  not very resent.  but i know what apt-get clean does.  there is nothing in /var/cache/apt/
[02:24] <NiklasH_work> patrick52222: install java-package, then do make-jpkg jre...
[02:24] <Killgore> finding remaining hd space from console "df -h" pretty cool
[02:24] <Killgore> apt-get clean?
[02:24] <intelikey> Killgore du -s is cool too
[02:25] <intelikey> Killgore yeah clean.
[02:25] <NiklasH_work> du -s | sort -g gets them in size order
[02:25] <Killgore> intelikey: what does it do
[02:25] <idleone_> Killgore, try discus sudo apt-get install discus then disucus -d
[02:25] <intelikey> man apt-get for all the sorted details
[02:25] <idleone_> discus*
[02:25] <Khamael> will dapper have more features than updated packages?
[02:25] <intelikey> it cleans out /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:25] <Killgore> NiklasH_work: someone knows their piping
[02:26] <Killgore> hmm ill just use my new command to see how much space that dir is taking up
[02:26] <xerophyte> how can i change only the directory and sub-directory permission to chmod 777 some_directory tree ?
[02:27] <_jason> xerophyte: all sub-directories or just the first level?
[02:27] <idleone_> how do I enter another users /home from terminal?
[02:27] <NiklasH_work> Killgore: piping: a way of living :)
[02:27] <Killgore> what is in there anyway? archives you downloaded or ones you dont need
[02:27] <_jason> idleone_: cd /home/another_user, usually
[02:28] <intelikey> xerophyte for this in `ls -1R blah` ;do if [ -d $this ]  ;then chmod 777 $this ;fi ;done
[02:28] <Killgore> NiklasH_work: we had to explain named pipes for one of our assignment questions.........totally lost after persistant pipes
[02:28] <xerophyte> thx got it find . -type d -exec chmod -R 775 {} \;
[02:28] <idleone_> _jason, Permission denied
[02:28] <intelikey> xerophyte blah being the base dir of corse
[02:28] <_jason> idleone_: that means you don't have permission :)
[02:28] <intelikey> that too
[02:29] <idleone_> _jason, it's my other user
[02:29] <_jason> idleone_: you can 'su other_user' to login as the other user
[02:29] <NiklasH_work> i never got the hang of fifos and that crap: command line pipes are the way to go :)
[02:29] <Killgore> intelikey: what is in apt/archives
[02:29] <_jason> idleone_: or change the permissions, or use sudo
[02:29] <Killgore> NiklasH_work: wooo go the FIFO
[02:30] <NiklasH_work> tried it once, never again. it gave me a rash
[02:30] <intelikey> Killgore what ever you installed sense the last time you cleaned it.... like the packages of you whole system maybe....
[02:30] <Killgore> intelikey: so does that mean its contents are important? oh i get it....dw
[02:31] <Killgore> im looking to get some hd space back what can i get rid of?
[02:32] <NiklasH_work> Killgore: i guess you've done apt-cache clean?
[02:32] <NiklasH_work> *apt-get
[02:32] <Killgore> no not yet
[02:32] <Killgore> ive got 207mb free and 61mb in apt
[02:33] <mds\> Is it safe to assume that if I want a newer kernel than 2.6.12-10-686-smp (this version doesn't detect all of the d945g mobo resources properly) that I will have to compile it myself?
[02:33] <intelikey> i've got 27m free.  but want to install an app that requires 46m ...... i'm not sure i can trim that much....
[02:34] <intelikey> mds\ i think so.
[02:34] <Killgore> can i pipe to a pipe to a pipe?
[02:34] <mds\> ouch
[02:34] <visik7> how can I use a vanilla kernel withoutbroken ubuntu ?
[02:35] <intelikey> ls | sort | less         or yes.
[02:35] <Killgore> intelikey: just out of curiosity are u running of a usb drive?
[02:35] <Killgore> woot
[02:35] <mds\> Killgore; yeah lke |grep <ahtever> |more
[02:35] <intelikey> no no usb drive here.
[02:35] <intelikey> more ?    yuch
[02:35] <Killgore> how big is your hard drive
[02:35] <GnarusLeo> Hi ... I have some "volume down - volume uo - mute" buttons on my laptop .. these worked great with gnome, but not with kde ... how do I enable these again?
[02:35] <Killgore> less > more
[02:35] <intelikey> less is more than more.
[02:35] <Killgore> zomg
[02:36] <Killgore> the logic
[02:36] <Killgore> watch the ubotu bot explode
[02:36] <mds\> it was an example :P
[02:36] <mds\> not that I'm cool enough to know the diff yet anyway
[02:36] <intelikey> oh 610m   hehhe i missed that Q
[02:36] <Aisi> !explode
[02:36] <ubotu> Aisi: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:36] <Aisi> damn
[02:37] <Killgore> intelikey: man i got twice as much storgage as you
[02:37] <intelikey> :)
[02:37] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: is there an equivalent for right-click send instant message in msn for gaim?
[02:37] <intelikey> well i have a 104m hdc but it has windows....
[02:38] <variant> Killgore: ask in #gaim
[02:38] <Killgore> on freenode
[02:38] <Enthusiast78> Killgore, Sure. Right-click, IM.
[02:38] <variant> intelikey: use gparted to resize the windows partition and shrink it
[02:38] <jimcooncat> installing current extensions in default breezy firefox help?
[02:38] <Killgore> intelikey: what windows 0.o
[02:38] <mds\> so does ubuntu provide the source for later kernels anywhere?  Being that I'm a complete newb I need a sort of fail-safe way to compile a kernel
[02:39] <intelikey> variant lol....   it's kinda full.
[02:39] <Killgore> Enthusiast78: but i have to know their email for that
[02:39] <intelikey> Killgore 95
[02:39] <intelikey> 95 A   that is.
[02:39] <Killgore> intelikey: nice i didnt think it would fit. Oh of course A is far superior to the common 95 hmm yes yes <- in a funny british accent
[02:40] <intelikey> :)
[02:40] <intelikey> Killgore the install is 17 3.5 floppys  :)
[02:40] <Killgore> 0.0
[02:40] <alan_> hi all
[02:41] <Killgore> intelikey: how tedious to sit there and put in floppy after floppy
[02:41] <intelikey> not as bad as installing a modern linux by floppies.
[02:42] <NiklasH_work> floppies are soo 20:th century...
[02:42] <Killgore> once gain 0.0
[02:42] <intelikey> i installed mdk9.0 on a 486 lappy with no network and no cd drive.
[02:43] <Killgore> intelikey: where do you find this awesome hardware. Seriously
[02:43] <intelikey> they throw away some really nice computers now days.
[02:44] <Killgore> intelikey: where do you get them? buisness's that dont want them?
[02:44] <GnarusLeo> !hotkey
[02:44] <ubotu> GnarusLeo: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:44] <Killgore> intelikey: btw where do you live
[02:44] <GnarusLeo> !hotkeys
[02:44] <ubotu> GnarusLeo: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:44] <patrick52222> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error
[02:44] <aluno> fala a galerinha
[02:44] <intelikey> Killgore /whois tells a lot about where people are.
[02:44] <dj-fu> !msgthebot
[02:44] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:44] <aluno> oi
[02:45] <intelikey> actually mine is wrong.  but it still tells a lot..... :)
[02:45] <Killgore> intelikey: what does mine say then?
[02:45] <Hamman> mds\: you could get the kernel source for the kernel used in dapper
[02:45] <Killgore> it says from that, that you are in texas?
[02:45] <patrick52222> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error
[02:45] <aluno> OI BANDO DE RAPARIGAS
[02:45] <Killgore> what language is that?
[02:45] <Killgore> !es
[02:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:46] <intelikey> descr:        Internet Services Network
[02:46] <intelikey> country:      AU
[02:46] <aluno> MI LINGUAJE S DE MI PAIS
[02:46] <intelikey> Killgore ^
[02:46] <aluno> BRASIL
[02:46] <aluno> JEJJEJEJEJEJE
[02:46] <aluno> PENTA CAMPEON
[02:46] <GnarusLeo> Hi ... I have some "volume down - volume uo - mute" buttons on my laptop .. these worked great with gnome, but not with kde ... how do I enable these again?
[02:46] <GnarusLeo> I cant start hotkey-setup
[02:46] <sonevei> opa!
[02:46] <aluno> RARA RURU O BRASIL  NOSSO
[02:47] <IdleOne> !ops
[02:47] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[02:47] <sonevei> alguem ai afim de tc?!?!
[02:47] <IdleOne> aluno, and sonevei are clones
[02:47] <Hobbsee> aluno: english only please
[02:47] <Hamman> mds\: but compiling a kernel is quite a chore, you might want to consider updating to dapper
[02:47] <sonevei> what!?
[02:47] <aluno> NO SE INGLS
[02:47] <sonevei> iim brazinlian boy
[02:47] <Hamman> although it still has some bugs :/
[02:48] <aluno> HEELOW
[02:48] <aluno> HELLOW
[02:48] <eStar> hello, everyone, my ubuntu screen resolution is 3200x600.....how can I change it to normal?
[02:48] <IdleOne> !br
[02:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:48] <aluno> BOYS
[02:48] <aluno> GIRLS
[02:48] <aluno> BANDO DE SAFADOS
[02:48] <intelikey> Killgore you know "person:       Richard Coombe
[02:48] <intelikey> ?
[02:49] <Killgore> intelikey: no
[02:49] <intelikey> just wondered.  he owns your net block.
[02:49] <Hobbsee> ack, always get called away from the computer at the most annoying times...
[02:49] <Killgore> intelikey: what do you mean? net block
[02:50] <ubuntu> gfbfg
[02:50] <ubuntu> ll
[02:50] <intelikey> the ip address you use is regestered to or should i say through him
[02:51] <Killgore> intelikey: as in he is my server? what exactly does that mean
[02:51] <GnarusLeo> If I press a hot-key, where can I see what the hot key produces?
[02:51] <NiklasH_work> Killgore: it just means that he's the one registered to the ip range your computer has an ip in
[02:51] <NiklasH_work> Killgore: probably some guy at your isp
[02:52] <IdleOne> GnarusLeo, try #kubuntu for help with kde and I think you should be able to assign functions for you volume buttons using keybord shortcut
[02:52] <intelikey> yup  like the sysadmin at your isp
[02:52] <NiklasH_work> !whois
[02:52] <ubotu> NiklasH_work: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:52] <Killgore> ok cool
[02:52] <Killgore> hand info
[02:52] <intelikey> !info whois
[02:52] <ubotu> whois: (the GNU whois client), section net, is optional. Version: 4.7.5 (breezy), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 232 kB
[02:53] <NiklasH_work> check whois for info on who is assigned to a specific ip
[02:53] <kbrooks> !find cat
[02:53] <kbrooks> !more
[02:53] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks
[02:53] <NiklasH_work> !man whois
[02:53] <ubotu> NiklasH_work: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:54] <intelikey> maybe !help would help you.
[02:54] <Killgore> man whois
[02:54] <jessy_> vend site (pro) de tournoi complet (design / codage : web2.0 / AJAX) simple d'utilisation, pratique, classement des joueurs, gestion des equipes, news, regles...
[02:54] <Killgore> are there chans where linux commands workl?
[02:54] <Killgore> !fr
[02:54] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:55] <intelikey> Killgore there are probably bots that "some" commands will work through.   the channel is not what give !info   the eggdrop bot ubotu is.
[02:55] <GnarusLeo> IdleOne, noone there to answer ...
[02:55] <GnarusLeo> IdleOne, have had this problem for about 3 hours with no help :)
[02:57] <IdleOne> GnarusLeo, look for keyboard shortcuts and see if you can assign functions to the buttons
[02:57] <IdleOne> !fishing
[02:57] <ubotu> somebody said fishing was ramdomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help either !ask in the channel or msg the bot :)
[02:58] <Killgore> intelikey: i know about the bots but can IRC itslef accept commands?
[02:58] <Killgore> GnarusLeo: what problem again?
[02:58] <intelikey> Killgore that would be very unsafe.  so no.
[02:58] <GnarusLeo> Killgore, I have hotkeys on my laptop wich I cant get to work after kubuntu install (Worked ok with gnome) ... its the volume buttons (up, down, mute)
[02:59] <intelikey> keymapper - Keyboard map decision tree builder and interpreter  <--- possably ?
[03:00] <Killgore> GnarusLeo: becuase gnome comes with a program to map keys and kde doesnt? am i right people
[03:00] <Killgore> did we establish whether the buttons were actually working
[03:00] <GnarusLeo> Killgore, beats me ..
[03:01] <Killgore> run xev in a console and press the keys
[03:01] <Killgore> but dont move the mouse
[03:01] <Killgore> well you can
[03:01] <Killgore> like press the volume key and so on
[03:01] <Killgore> it will tell you if any kepresses are being registered
[03:02] <intelikey> hmmm kde has it's own app for configuring that stuff  i think.    check the kconfig menu
[03:02] <x3aro> join #debian
[03:02] <x3aro> oha -.-"
[03:02] <intelikey>  /
[03:03] <intelikey> /join #debian      <--- :)
[03:03] <x3aro> aso ^^ /ja
[03:03] <x3aro> thx
[03:03] <Killgore> : /j #debian for uber fastness and less typeing
[03:03] <intelikey> /part #ubuntu
[03:03] <toni_DeNapoli> hi
[03:03] <sfaris> \debian# jion
[03:04] <sfaris> not w0rk!
[03:04] <toni_DeNapoli> i would like to start 3ddesk with F keys
[03:04] <intelikey> Killgore that assumes that the irc client has that alias.
[03:04] <toni_DeNapoli> how can i use shortcuts for it ? ?
[03:04] <Killgore> true true
[03:05] <GnarusLeo> Killgore, yes ... it respnds while pressing hotkeys
[03:05] <niki> how do i reinstall without losing my home directory?
[03:05] <GnarusLeo> Killgore, what do I do with those=? :)
[03:05] <GnarusLeo> intelikey, cant seem to find anything in there
[03:06] <x3aro> i search a packet-app / i hate it to install .deb or .rpm via terminal /someone know such a programm?
[03:06] <intelikey> GnarusLeo sorry i have 101 key    don't play with that stuff much.
[03:06] <GnarusLeo> ok, couse I found the key codes for them ...
[03:06] <GnarusLeo> 160, 171, 174 ..
[03:06] <toni_DeNapoli> for what
[03:07] <GnarusLeo> For my hotkeys .. but dont know how to activate them
[03:07] <intelikey> xbindkeys-config - An easy to use gtk program for configuring Xbindkeys.
[03:07] <intelikey> xkeycaps - Manipulate X keymaps (for xmodmap) graphically.
[03:07] <intelikey> xkeysw - A keyboard layout switch for the X Window System
[03:07] <toni_DeNapoli> yes . i put a  copy of the programm of my desktop
[03:08] <intelikey> just searching the package manager for you....
[03:08] <x3aro> test
[03:08] <toni_DeNapoli> but there is no option to edit it using shortcuts
[03:08] <NiklasH_work> x3aro: just try right-clicking on it and see what options you get
[03:08] <NiklasH_work> i get 3 programs that can open it
[03:08] <toni_DeNapoli> i konw ... no options about shortcuts
[03:08] <GnarusLeo> thanks intelikey  ... Ill look into that :)
[03:08] <intelikey> well it's time for me to scram.    see  jall nes' time.
[03:09] <x3aro> @NiklasH_work h? xD
[03:11] <BlueHeron> o.O
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[05:21] (thoreauputic/#ubuntu) Karlprof: I would try a test user - adduser test then try that user to login
[05:21] (Karlprof/#ubuntu) Hmm.
[05:22] (sfar-ubu/#ubuntu) i've downloaded mozilla-mplayer but i cant still view videos in firefox, do i need to do something else? (firefox 1.0.7)
[05:22] (Karlprof/#ubuntu) clear
[05:22] (Karlprof/#ubuntu) Ahem, that was meant to go in the console.
[05:22] (thoreauputic/#ubuntu) Karlprof: if the test user can login you just have a problem in your own .gnome and or .gconf
[05:22] <sfar-ubu> mplayer doesnt even start in firefox..
[05:22] <sfar-ubu> (so its not the codecs)
[05:23] <soundray> sfar-ubu: restart firefox
[05:23] <gabbah_> Dr_Willis, yeah, that's often the case. But one could for instance require sudo to create such open shares... then it would be easy to use AND secure, no?
[05:23] <Karlprof> Aaargh, my massive xchat window is covering up the adduser terminal window.
[05:23] <soundray> sfar-ubu: and check 'about:plugins' to see if the plugin is there.
[05:23] <gnomefreak> anyone remember the lib that kde depends on?
[05:24] <Raovq> i don't suppose there is a way to have different backgrounds for workspaces?
[05:24] <soundray> gnomefreak: *the* lib?
[05:24] <laffer_pt> how do I turn off the scrensaver from the terminal? and how do I force change the resolution throught the terminal too?
[05:24] <thoreauputic> Raovq: not in gnome
[05:24] <arrick> hey has anyone checked out thet linux XP Pro version of linux?
[05:24] <soundray> gnomefreak: do you mean qt?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> gabbah_,  this is linux.. its proberly possable and done befor. :P ya just gotta find it.   - I just edit the file and create the few shares i like and am done with it. I was able to do all i wanted by chapter 3 of that book I think.
[05:24] <Raovq> damn
[05:24] <thoreauputic> Raovq: without special hacks ;)
[05:24] <niki> arrick, say whaaaat?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> soundray: yes the lib there is one lib you can remove to get rid of kde and depends
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> gabbah_,  ive seen some dang neat tricks done with samba
[05:25] <gnomefreak> its libqt3-mt isnt it
[05:25] <usuario> OLA
[05:25] <thoreauputic> Raovq: it *is* possible but I forget the way - some people have written scripts etc for it
[05:25] <gnomefreak> thats the one ;)
[05:25] <gnomefreak> ty soundray
[05:26] <soundray> gnomefreak: according to apt-cache showpkg libqt3-mt it could well be
[05:26] <karlprof> Yay! Test thingy worked!
[05:26] <laffer_pt> how do I turn off the scrensaver from the terminal? and how do I force change the resolution throught the terminal too?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> soundray: its getting rid of them ;)
[05:26] <thoreauputic> karlprof: OK so your gnome dot files had a problem it seems
[05:27] <FredeFup> how do I check which ip I got, e.g. which one assigned from DHCP?
[05:27] <gabbah_> Dr_Willis, like what? what could be so cool? :)
[05:27] <karlprof> Is there any way I can just rebuilt my .gnome files?
[05:27] <thoreauputic> karlprof: you can either se up a new user and move your files or delete your .gnome* and .gconf stuff and try again
[05:27] <soundray> laffer_pt: check out xvidtune -next to switch resolution
[05:27] <arrick> niki, I just went on ebay and typed in linux, and a guy has what he calls Linux XP Pro for sale on there, and I thought it was kind of funny
[05:27] <thoreauputic> karlprof: they regenerate
[05:27] <thoreauputic> on login
[05:28] <karlprof> In which case.
[05:28] <karlprof> *chmods, deletes*
[05:28] <arrick> niki, how do you mix a good os with microsoft?
[05:28] <sfar-ubu> soundray, its there and firefox have been restarted.. still wont work
[05:28] <arrick> hehe
[05:28] <mahangu> sexi, what do you want? please dont private message me without asking. if you have a question, ask in here
[05:28] <David_Mills> Hi all, I'd like to know what to do with this bug I've discovered (or not): When I boot a dapper 5 live CD, I can't get static networking to work. I've looked in bugzilla.gnome.org, where they say the bug is fixed, but I can't see any trace of said fix getting into Dapper. I'va already asked on #launchpad, and they told me to come here.
[05:28] <arrick> that should get some comments
[05:28] <mahangu> David_Mills, #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <mahangu> David_Mills, sorry for the second redirection of the day, but the dapper channel is that :)
[05:29] <arrick> David_Mills, #ubuntu+1 is the place you want to ask questions about dapper
[05:29] <David_Mills> mahangu + arrick : thanks, on my way :)
[05:29] <arrick> ok
[05:29] <soundray> sfar-ubu: does mplayer work on the command line?
[05:29] <niki> arrick, you got the url for that linux xp thing?  i wanna see :P
[05:30] <cycus_zwisus> how to make gnome apps (while using kde)  use other than default icon sets?
[05:30] <karlprof> So, thoreauputic, do I just go mad and delete everything with 'gnome' in the filename?
[05:30] <Misnix> arrick, did you see this?  http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Welcome%2C_Musicians%21
[05:30] <karlprof> Or is there some sort of list?
[05:30] <thoreauputic> karlprof: heh - .gnome and .gconf files I think
[05:31] <thoreauputic> karlprof: maybe also .gtkrc files
[05:31] <soundray> karlprof: maybe also .gnome2
[05:31] <thoreauputic> karlprof: that should give you a default desktop on next login IIRC
[05:31] <karlprof> Okeydokey.
[05:31] <tholmes> Hi folks -- im having a bit of a problem compiling a program from source here -- it keeps erroring out wit the following error
[05:31] <tholmes> checking for gnome-config... no
[05:31] <tholmes> checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
[05:31] <tholmes> configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install
[05:32] <thoreauputic> soundray: right .gnome* includes .gnome2 :)
[05:32] <tholmes> can someone please point me in the right direction
[05:32] <_jason> !find gnomeConf.sh
[05:32] <Turicas> hello. anyone from Canada?
[05:32] <Toby_Newbie> how to setup a twinhan vision dvb tc card?
[05:32] <soundray> thoreauputic: that's not what you said, though :)
[05:32] <spiderworm> oskude: still around?
[05:32] <thoreauputic> soundray: originally I did
[05:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'gnomeConf.sh' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/gnomeConf.sh) in libdevel/libgnome-dev.
[05:32] <thoreauputic> soundray: but a while back..
[05:33] <_jason> tholmes: see what ubotu said :)
[05:33] <tholmes> Hi _jason thanks -- didnt know the bot could do that
[05:33] <soundray> thoreauputic: just clarifying.
[05:33] <tholmes> _jason, ya -- i see that -- very cool -- working on it now
[05:33] <thoreauputic> soundray: sure :)
[05:33] <_jason> tholmes: yeah, it's best to install apt-file and use that instead though.  Just do apt-file update and then apt-file search filename
[05:33] <arrick> Hey I thought people werent allowed to sell Ubuntu software?
[05:33] <tholmes> _jason, rather than synaptic????
[05:33] <thoreauputic> arrick: sure they can
[05:33] <oskude> spiderworm, yup
[05:33] <spiderworm> oskude: sweet :)
[05:34] <_jason> tholmes: synaptic can't search for which package contains a given file
[05:34] <arrick> thoreauputic, how, if it is open source?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> arrick:  Free as in Freedom, not as in gratis necessarily
[05:34] <arrick> ok
[05:34] <tholmes> _jason, ok -- never used apt-file --
[05:34] <thoreauputic> arrick: you can sell Open Source software
[05:34] <tholmes> !find apt-file
[05:34] <ubotu> apt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 2.0.7ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[05:34] <arrick> ok
[05:34] <spiderworm> do you know of another package that does what I'm trying to do?  I've tried vnc2swf but didnt like it because I don't want Flash movies, and Istanbul, but didn't like it because it was crashy & buggy
[05:34] <thoreauputic> arrick: it's a confusion of "free" with "freedom"
[05:35] <arrick> ok
[05:35] <spiderworm> we should all just say libre instead of free
[05:35] <karlprof> Well, I've deleted every GNOME-related file I could find in /home/karl
[05:35] <karlprof> Wish me luck
[05:35] <soundray> Toby_Newbie: what version of Ubuntu?
[05:36] <Toby_Newbie> breezy 5.10
[05:36] <thoreauputic> arrick: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/
[05:36] <oskude> spiderworm, if you dont really need it for vnc, try gvidcap (you may need to build it from cvs to it to work right)
[05:36] <tholmes> _jason, it turns out that that libgnome-dev was not installed, so im gonna do that first and hope it gets it before i complicate my life any more
[05:36] <oskude> spiderworm, http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/
[05:36] <_jason> tholmes: yeah, that's probably what you need
[05:37] <spiderworm> oskude: i dont need it for vnc, I just need a stable desktop session recorder so I can make some Blender video tutes
[05:37] <tholmes> _jason, thanks a bunch -- i really appreciate it
[05:37] <_jason> tholmes: np
[05:37] <spiderworm> oskude: you think gvidcap will work?  will try
[05:37] <soundray> Toby_Newbie: as far as I know, DVB support in breezy is a bit patchy, especially if it comes to new cards like yours.
[05:37] <soundray> Toby_Newbie: is it a dual receiver (terrestrial plus cable)?
[05:37] <Karlprof> Soundray, thoreauputic.
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Karlprof: ?
[05:38] <GnarusLeo> Hi, I have a problem with amarok using xine-engine, when I try to choose it it says: "xine was unable to load any audio-drivers" ... if I try about 10 times ittl work at the end ... any ideas?
[05:38] <Karlprof> You two are more awesome than something that's so awesome it transcends awesome and becomes almost God-like.
[05:38] <Karlprof> <3
[05:38] <speg> Im trying to build a source package, and just installed build-essential, but i get an error thta /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build is missing. the build folder does miss, but everything else is there. where do i get that from ?
[05:38] <oskude> spiderworm, oh yeah, i love video tutorials :) i tried the last g/xvidcap from cvs back in hoary and it even worked (xvidcap was actually "dead") but ive seen some activity on the forums lately so cvs should be uptodate...
[05:38] <soundray> Karlprof: and that's no exaggeration at all! :)
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Karlprof: heheh - parse error in line one *grin*
[05:38] <spiderworm> oskude: thanks, i look forward to getting this then :)
[05:39] <oskude> spiderworm, i gotta go to kiosk, brb, ill compile gvidcap too then :)
[05:39] <spiderworm> cool :)
[05:39] <FredeFup> I'm trying to get my wireless network running with WPA. I need to know which driver to use, e.g. madwifi and so, for setting up wpa_supplicant. How do I determine this?
[05:40] <wijn> hi folks
[05:40] <niki> hi wijn
[05:41] <gnomefreak> sexi: are you a bot?
[05:41] <wijn> Has anyone in here got any experience with configuring wireless internet via the console?
[05:41] <soundray> Toby_Newbie: still here?
[05:41] <Njal> Lo all
[05:41] <arrick> !wireless
[05:41] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:41] <Njal> I'm having some networking problems was wondering if anyone might be able to help me
[05:42] <arrick> wijn, that lask link was for you
[05:42] <pulgoki> has anyone been able to get age of empires II working on linux?
[05:42] <wijn> right, let me read that
[05:42] <wijn> thanks
[05:42] <arrick> ok
[05:42] <pulgoki> i just tried cedega with no luck
[05:42] <arrick> good luck
[05:42] <wijn> oh I forget to mention that i'm running Kubuntu, put they redirected me to here
[05:42] <spiderworm> oskude: found a debian package here: http://www.jarre-de-the.net/computing/debian/  .... seems to work, i had to install libpng2
[05:42] <Njal> does anyone know how to set up NFS?
[05:42] <wijn> but I assume the console is roughly the same?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> wijn,  should be the same. :P
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Njal,  theres a nfs wiki or 2 at the ubuntu site.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Njal,  and ooodles of nfs howtos online.
[05:43] <Njal> yes but the NFS tutorials i have tried have not worked
[05:43] <arrick> !NFS
[05:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:43] <axl000> anyone can help me, i have no sound whit my centrino
[05:43] <Njal> i wish i knew WHY but they didn't
[05:43] <axl000> sorry for my english
[05:44] <sfar-ubu> soundray, yes
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Njal,  most likely - you donthave some service running they needed.
[05:44] <soundray> !tell axl000 about sound
[05:44] <axl000> ok
[05:44] <soundray> axl000: look out for a message from ubotu.
[05:44] <axl000> i have a centrino, realtek sound card
[05:45] <axl000> and i have no sound
[05:45] <GnarusLeo> Hi, I have a problem with amarok using xine-engine, when I try to choose it it says: "xine was unable to load any audio-drivers" ... if I try about 10 times ittl work at the end ... any ideas?
[05:45] <mahangu> in ubuntu power management, how can i set it so the machine goes on standby, but doesnt switch off? im upgrading from breezy -> dapper and want it on during the night
[05:45] <Njal> ok looking at it i have seen the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo  page before and i ended up in circless
[05:45] <oskude> spiderworm, ok, nice
[05:45] <Toby_Newbie> yes
[05:45] <axl000> in wiki.ubuntu.com is a howto, but i doesnt work for my (sorry for my english)
[05:45] <spiderworm> oskude: hmmm maybe a little buggy, i think i might compile after all
[05:46] <Toby_Newbie> soundtray its a card with cable (DVB-S)
[05:46] <soundray> axl000: try the troubleshooting pages you got from ubotu. If it's still not working, come back and describe the problem exactly.
[05:47] <Raovq> im trying to install java, and i have the rpm file, but i have no idea how to extract it
[05:47] <axl000> i look thtat pages
[05:47] <oskude> spiderworm, ill huntdown the cvs oneliner... you could get build-essential and subversion packages
[05:47] <soundray> Toby_Newbie: for DVB, it's usually best to install a dedicated distribution. I recommend c't VDR.
[05:48] <sfar-ubu> my sound is not working at all.. where to start? :)
[05:48] <Toby_Newbie> oh ok thanks for help
[05:48] <abonilla> OK, I'm desperate. Is anyone having trouble with gaim on the MSN protocol? I have 4 Ubuntu systems and they all fail, at this location. But everyone is good working on Windows
[05:48] <Njal> ok it's probably worth noting that i am starting out in networking endevours so LDAP and NIS makes no sense to me atm
[05:48] <arrick> sfar-ubu, make sure you have the driver installed
[05:49] <arrick> Njal, use samba
[05:49] <Njal> see i thought i should use that in the first place but was told NFS would be easier
[05:49] <arrick> wasnt for me
[05:49] <Njal> since my laptop OSX has samba built in
[05:50] <soundray> Toby_Newbie: the Kanotix VDR Live-CD is very good for testing.
[05:50] <christhemonkey> Njal i found samba really easy to set up
[05:50] <arrick> yep
[05:50] <axl000> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto?highlight=%28sound%29%7C%28intel%29 i follow that howto, but i dont know hw to install the realtek package
[05:50] <GnarusLeo> !xine-engine
[05:50] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GnarusLeo
[05:50] <Njal> ok as far as i am aware i have more than enough samba packages installed
[05:50] <arrick> I am able ok
[05:50] <oskude> spiderworm, sorry, we dont need "subversion" we need "cvs" :)
[05:50] <Njal> i have smb, samba (a gui i think), libsmb and some others
[05:51] <arrick> make sure you have smbfs installed tough
[05:51] <Njal> yep it is
[05:51] <arrick> ok
[05:51] <Njal> it's a dependancy and was installed when smb was installed
[05:51] <arrick> thats all you need
[05:51] <arrick> !samba
[05:51] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:51] <spiderworm> oskude: heh of course :)
[05:51] <arrick> will get you headed in the rigth direction
[05:51] <Njal> it's not windows i wanna use though
[05:51] <arrick> what do y uwant to use, mac?
[05:51] <Njal> i simply wanna use a desktop to back up an OSX machine
[05:52] <Karlprof> Is ubuntu inetd ir xinetd?
[05:52] <Karlprof> *or
[05:52] <arrick> use the link
[05:52] <arrick> it helped e ou on mine
[05:52] <arrick> me out on mine that is
[05:52] <tholmes> !find GnomeVFS
[05:52] <soundray> axl000: ignore the update section on top for now. Follow the rest of the page and see how far you get.
[05:52] <Toby_Newbie> Hi how to install xgl under breezy 5.10
[05:52] <oskude> spiderworm, then you could make dir like "myprogs" in your home dir and "cd"ing in to it and then getting the xvidcap source code with "cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/xvidcap co ."
[05:52] <dinamizador> hgdf
[05:52] <gnomefreak> Toby_Newbie: you cant
[05:53] <gnomefreak> !xgl
[05:53] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:53] <Toby_Newbie> wehy that
[05:53] <gnomefreak> ^^tob
[05:53] <Kyral> because its XOrg 7
[05:53] <Njal> no it doesn't
[05:53] <christhemonkey> Karlprof: initd
[05:53] <gnomefreak> Toby_Newbie: its because of the version of xorg
[05:53] <Njal> i had XGL working on breezy
[05:53] <Kyral> and no way in HELL are we gonna backport XOrg 7
[05:53] <spiderworm> ok... actually oskude i have the source already... im trying to get it to compile
[05:53] <Karlprof> Thanks, Chris.
[05:53] <christhemonkey> xgl works in breezy
[05:53] <ruvia99> ola
[05:53] <Kyral> if it does its sketchy
[05:53] <spiderworm> its not finding my avcodec.h file ....
[05:53] <axl000> i do that and alsa 1.0.10 dont work for my
[05:53] <ubuntu2> nice
[05:53] <ruvia99> lon km
[05:54] <ruvia99> ,kll
[05:54] <Kyral> You'd need to backport XOrg 7
[05:54] <soundray> Toby_Newbie: you could install the required packages, but it's easier to install dapper (Ubuntu testing version)
[05:54] <gnomefreak> its not advised at all
[05:54] <Njal> it's ok as long as the graphics card is good
[05:54] <oskude> spiderworm, then cd to the xvidcap dir and running "./configure --with-gtk2"
[05:54] <spiderworm> ok
[05:54] <Kyral> Stop confusing the guy!
[05:54] <Kyral> Its possible yes
[05:54] <Njal> i had it running ok-ish on and old intel i810 video card
[05:54] <Kyral> but then again installing the HURD is possible!@
[05:54] <Kyral> that doesn't mean its EASY
[05:54] <ruvia99> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:55] <gnomefreak> or worth it
[05:55] <tholmes> !find gnomevfs
[05:55] <_jason> ruvia99: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:55] <Kyral> Though I'll do the HURD this weekend because I'm bored :P
[05:55] <oskude> spiderworm, i think we need this "libgtk2.0-dev" package
[05:55] <Kyral> in a Qemu image though
[05:55] <spiderworm> oskude: its throwing me the same error
[05:55] <soundray> Toby_Newbie: if you test dapper, there's also a good chance you'll get your DVB card to work.
[05:56] <Kyral> mmm the HURD....
[05:56] <christhemonkey> whats HURD?
[05:56] <soundray> !hurd
[05:56] <ubotu> soundray: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:56] <soundray> Didn't think so :)
[05:56] <Kyral> lol
[05:56] <oskude> spiderworm, if ./configure complains about packages, it mostly that we need the "dev" packages from it
[05:56] <arrick> ruvia99 , quit spammin
[05:56] <Kyral> The HURD is the GNU Kernel
[05:56] <spiderworm> oskude: right
[05:56] <Kyral> as opposed to Linux
[05:56] <Njal> ok what would my domain name be, bearing in mind everything is running on DHCP
[05:56] <Kyral> (Hence why Linux is properly "GNU/Linux")
[05:57] <Njal> i got ifconfig up
[05:57] <arrick> the name of the pc you are trying th accedd
[05:57] <arrick> to access
[05:57] <Kyral> Its a microkernel (right now based on Mach)
[05:57] <oskude> spiderworm, ok, my configure seemed to run ok...
[05:57] <Njal> so
[05:57] <nathanj> is it better to install the mplayer-codecs pack over w32codecs?
[05:57] <Njal> desktop is seraphim laptop is serenty
[05:57] <Kyral> as opposed to a Monolithic kernel (like Linux)
[05:57] <arrick> you should set static
[05:57] <arrick> for the one only though
[05:57] <Kyral> Debian is the only distro that also offers HURD support
[05:57] <soundray> Kyral: I know all that -- I wonder if anyone else *wants* to know... ;)
[05:58] <Kyral> lol
[05:58] <Njal> my host name for the desktop is automatically filled in as seraphim, it's domain name is
[05:58] <christhemonkey> o ok
[05:58] <spiderworm> oskude: im trying to get liblame installed....
[05:58] <oskude> spiderworm, damn, make gives errors :) (looking)
[05:58] <Kyral> The HURD can be much more powerful than Linux....
[05:58] <Kyral> once they get the bugs out....
[05:58] <spiderworm> oskude: heh :) it happens
[05:58] <Kyral> The HURD is what the GNU project was developing for a Kernel before Linus got Linux working first
[05:59] <oskude> spiderworm, dpkg -l shows me only "liblame0"
[05:59] <soundray> Kyral: Linus won by approx. 13 years, didn't he?
[05:59] <Kyral> lol
[05:59] <Kyral> yes
[05:59] <Kyral> but the HURD's design has more potential
[05:59] <spiderworm> oskude: im not finding anything on liblame at all
[05:59] <tholmes> This program is now asking for gnomevfs development, however synaptic shows it as installed now what do i do?
[06:00] <spiderworm> oskude: do you know what repo you're getting it from?
[06:00] <Kyral> And this is also why "Linux" properly refers to the Kernel only
[06:00] <edulix> hi !
[06:00] <Kyral> and why "GNU/Linux" is the proper term for what people normally think of as Linux
[06:00] <oskude> spiderworm, multiverse
[06:00] <soundray> Kyral: the HURD is incredibly well thought through and principled. But sometimes it takes a Linus-Torvalds-approach to get things that *work*.
[06:00] <Kyral> soundray: you mean the Bazaar?
[06:00] <davidmoore83> heh just running windows in Ubuntu Dapper :)
[06:01] <edulix> where can I set the java enviromental variables in ubuntu ? (eclipse is using gij when I'd like it to use sun jre, and I want it to choose to do so in a global way not just eclipse)
[06:01] <soundray> Kyral: no, I mean a pragmatic way of thinking.
[06:01] <Kyral> heh there are plenty of HURD hackers
[06:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell edulix about multijava
[06:01] <Kyral> most of them in the Debian community
[06:01] <spiderworm> oskude: odd, i have the multiverse repos enabled and working....
[06:01] <Njal> ok I'm just a bit lost here
[06:01] <Kyral> Like I said, the microkernel design has much more potential than the monolitchic kernel
[06:01] <mds\> ubotu: tell mds\ about multijava
[06:01] <Kyral> OS X runs on Mach
[06:02] <Kyral> which is a microkernel
[06:02] <Njal> i have my computer name and domain name set up in linux
[06:02] <Njal> but in OSX it's unclear as to where i should go from there
[06:03] <edulix> eclipse
[06:03] <edulix> searching for compatible vm...
[06:03] <edulix>   testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...found
[06:03] <edulix> it's still not using sun jre
[06:03] <Kyral> According to bddebian...wireless networking in HURD sucks right now
[06:03] <Turicas> hello. anyone from Canada?
[06:03] <Raovq> im from australia, thats almost canada
[06:03] <Kyral> oh and a side note
[06:04] <patrick52222> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error
[06:04] <dsr> I have a small question, i know it should be ask elsewhere but I bet someone can answer quickly.. Whenever I use the command line "time" to measure ressources usage, I cant seem to be able to pass any options to it. It just seems to treat the options as the COMMAND to run
[06:04] <davidmoore83> Turicas: why are you going round ALL the channels asking this?
[06:04] <soundray> Turicas: ask a Ubuntu related question.
[06:04] <oskude> spiderworm, well, i get liblame0 and liblame-dev with apt-cache search liblame
[06:04] <Kyral> The HURD is the only known mutually recursive acronym
[06:04] <spiderworm> oskude: wtf... with apt-file -l search liblame I get both of those as well, but with apt-cache search liblame I get nothing
[06:04] <christhemonkey> is there better latency with HURD for audio?
[06:04] <Kyral> with the H in HURD standing for HIRD and the H in HIRD standing for HURD
[06:04] <oskude> spiderworm, and youre using breezy ?
[06:04] <spiderworm> oskude: and of course, apt-get install liblame says there's no package either
[06:05] <spiderworm> oskude: yeah
[06:05] <venky> hello I am trying to install gaim but iam getting an error "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"  what shud i do?
[06:05] <Turicas> davidmoore83, because i need to talk with an ubuntu user from canada ;)
[06:05] <davidmoore83> Turicas: why? all ubuntu users from anywhere are the same LOL
[06:05] <spiderworm> why would apt-file show liblame package but not apt-cache ?
[06:05] <Kyral> venky: why compiling?
[06:05] <oskude> spiderworm, very weird... i got my from here : deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[06:05] <christhemonkey> there are plenty of mutually recursive acronyms?
[06:06] <spiderworm> i'll download it manually
[06:06] <christhemonkey> JACK; the JACK audio connection kit
[06:06] <edulix>  /etc/eclipse/java_home that's the file I had to change
[06:06] <Turicas> davidmoore83, i'm brazilian and want to go to Canada
[06:06] <venky> iam trying to install beta 2
[06:06] <Kyral> christhemonkey: thats a recursive
[06:06] <edulix> now it seems to work. man was gij slow lol
[06:06] <Kyral> err
[06:06] <Kyral> single recursive
[06:06] <Kyral> like GNU is GNU's Not Unix
[06:06] <patrick52222> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error
[06:06] <davidmoore83> Turicas: what has that got to do with ubuntu? no offence my man but these channels are for help on ubuntu
[06:06] <nathanj> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - anyone used this to install packages is it safe?
[06:07] <Kyral> HURD means "HIRD (something tjhing thing)
[06:07] <Kyral> and HIRD means "HURD something something something
[06:07] <Kyral> see the difference?
[06:07] <christhemonkey> oh i get it know
[06:08] <Karlprof> Hey again. Sorry to be annoying (no doubt you're sick of answering my questions)... but how would I go about restarting inetd?
[06:08] <edulix> thanks, bye!
[06:08] <Njal> sudo inetd restart?
[06:08] <spiderworm> oskude: manually installed.... that was all very odd
[06:08] <Njal> no wait
[06:08] <venky> is there a way i can install it , i mean do i have to install some C compiler whats $PATH
[06:08] <Njal> sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart?
[06:08] <Kyral> venky: why are you compiling GAIM?
[06:08] <Kyral> its in the repos
[06:09] <dsr> I have a small question, i know it should be ask elsewhere but I bet someone can answer quickly.. Whenever I use the command line "time" to measure ressources usage, I cant seem to be able to pass any options to it. It just seems to treat the options as the COMMAND to run. Anyone know why?
[06:09] <Kyral> dsr: its something with BASH
[06:09] <venky> i dont know just following the install instructions
[06:09] <Kyral> you see, Bash has its own time thing
[06:09] <spiderworm> oskude: yeah ok i'm getting make errors too
[06:09] <Njal> ok i have switched my network over to manual IP addressing
[06:09] <venky> its not the usual GAIM..its gaim 2 beta2
[06:09] <Kyral> so to use Linux's you have to do /usr/bin/time
[06:09] <oskude> spiderworm, btw, i reconfigured with "./configure --with-gtk2 --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg" so we dont have to mess with ffmpeg
[06:09] <Kyral> ah
[06:09] <niki> Kyral, does HURD have it's own OS?
[06:09] <dsr> ahh
[06:09] <Kyral> niki: its just a Kernel
[06:09] <niki> Kyral, oh, ok
[06:09] <soundray> dsr: try calling /usr/bin/time -a ls
[06:09] <Kyral> like Linux
[06:09] <Njal> how would i now go about creating a samba share
[06:10] <Njal> um hurd's a file system not a kernel
[06:10] <spiderworm> oskude:  :) sounds good... dont forget to make clean
[06:10] <niki> Kyral, gotcha
[06:10] <Kyral> X can run on it, as can KDE and GNOME
[06:10] <Kyral> Njal: GNU/HURD
[06:10] <oskude> spiderworm, and makeing the ffmpeg library seemed to work here, on to gvidcap
[06:10] <Njal> yes
[06:10] <niki> Kyral, have you tried it?
[06:10] <Njal> i know the convention
[06:10] <patrick52222> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10971 what could be making this error
[06:10] <Kyral> Njal: its a kernel
[06:10] <spiderworm> XD sweet!
[06:10] <Kyral> I know it
[06:10] <Njal> but the 'hurd' system uses mach as a kernel
[06:10] <Kyral> yah
[06:10] <Kyral> well, as its base :P
[06:10] <oskude> spiderworm, means, the configure script maked the ffmeg library when used with the flag
[06:10] <Kyral> I haven't tried it
[06:10] <Njal> so hurd is a hybrid of mach?
[06:10] <Kyral> I wanna use Qemu for it
[06:11] <Kyral> I dunno really
[06:11] <spiderworm> oskude: hmm i'm getting another make error now...
[06:11] <Frogzoo> Kyral: kqemu is better
[06:11] <oskude> spiderworm, post on pastebin
[06:11] <Kyral> venky: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:11] <Njal> on the hurd site is claims the whole system uses mach as it's kernel and hurd as it's file system
[06:11] <patrick52222> i need java but the restricted format way doesnt work is there another way
[06:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell patrick52222 about javadebs
[06:11] <Kyral> Njal: I haven't searched that much on it
[06:12] <Njal> i looked into it a while back
[06:12] <niki> it sounds like good reading
[06:12] <Kyral> yah
[06:12] <Njal> they claim hurd is a file system which confused the hell outa me
[06:12] <Kyral> It looks like fun :D
[06:12] <GnarusLeo> Hi, I have a problem with amarok using xine-engine, when I try to choose it it says: "xine was unable to load any audio-drivers" ... if I try about 10 times ittl work at the end ... any ideas?
[06:12] <Njal> coz i though hurd should be the kernel
[06:12] <oskude> spiderworm, and i remember you had to use "make gvidcap" for gvidcap, but cant find it mentioned anywhere in the docs...
[06:12] <Frogzoo> patrick52222: wrong - the restricted java (ie Sun's) works like a champion
[06:12] <christhemonkey> Hurd stands for "Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons," and "Hird" stands for "Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth."
[06:12] <Kyral> christhemonkey: see? :P
[06:12] <patrick52222> yeh but i need jre for limewire
[06:13] <spiderworm> oskude: hmm thats interesting
[06:13] <arrick> I forgot, how do I use Quickbooks Pro 2002 on ubuntu?
[06:13] <niki> christhemonkey, wow...that's deep :D
[06:13] <_jason> christhemonkey: they keep getting more clever with the names huh
[06:13] <arrick> cross something
[06:13] <Kyral> crossover office
[06:13] <trappist> arrick: crossover office
[06:13] <arrick> thanks
[06:13] <trappist> arrick: www.codeweavers.com
[06:13] <skeeto> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a server that has SCSI hard drives, and for some reason its not seeing the drive when it gets to the partition screen
[06:13] <arrick> is that installed on ubuntu default?
[06:13] <gpafv> ytryty
[06:13] <gpafv> makiana
[06:14] <oskude> spiderworm, i had to install "libxmu-headers" tho get past the first error: ../Xw/Box.h:26:32: error: X11/Xmu/Converters.h: No such file or directory
[06:14] <christhemonkey> ye lol
[06:14] <soundray> skeeto: is it an Adaptec card?
[06:14] <skeeto> yes
[06:14] <spiderworm> oskude: http://pastebin.com/627042 <---- and i of course usr/include/ffmpeg/common.h esists....
[06:14] <Kyral> Rumors had it that the rumored "Gnubuntu" would be Ubuntu/HURD
[06:14] <skeeto> AIC 7890
[06:14] <Njal> ok, the hurd is just add on's to the mach kernel
[06:14] <soundray> skeeto: have you enabled the card's bios?
[06:14] <GnarusLeo> +c
[06:14] <Njal> for file system implementation and such
[06:14] <spiderworm> oskude: http://pastebin.com/627042 <---- and of course usr/include/ffmpeg/common.h exists....
[06:14] <Frogzoo> patrick52222: frostwire runs fine with 1.5.0_06 - haven't tried limewire though, but likely the same
[06:14] <trappist> spiderworm: sudo apt-get install tendra
[06:15] <Njal> Introduction to the Hurd
[06:15] <Njal> The GNU Hurd is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. The Hurd is a collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel to implement file systems, network protocols, file access control, and other features that are implemented by the Unix kernel or similar kernels (such as Linux).
[06:15] <skeeto> yes, I even setup a logical drive and formatted the physical drives
[06:15] <niki> oooohhh, Debian GNU/HURD
[06:15] <arrick> is xoffice free?
[06:15] <spiderworm> trappist: ok, thanks....
[06:15] <oskude> spiderworm, did you do "./configure --with-gtk2 --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg" ?
[06:15] <patrick52222> frogzoo:it does work with that one but i cant seem to get it installed
[06:15] <spiderworm> oskude: yeah
[06:15] <soundray> skeeto: I see, a RAID config?
[06:15] <trappist> spiderworm: tendra: usr/lib/TenDRA/lib/include/x5/mu.api/X11/Xmu/Converters.h
[06:15] <Kyral> the crosshurd package is in Ubuntu
[06:15] <skeeto> yeah raid 5
[06:15] <arrick> Frogzoo, morning
[06:15] <oskude> spiderworm, well, you said you didnt get the package from cvs, so maybe its not included ?
[06:16] <niki> Kyral, crosshurd?
[06:16] <Kyral> its the install method of HURD
[06:16] <spiderworm> oskude: its possible, actually, let me check
[06:16] <Frogzoo> arrick: hi
[06:16] <Kyral> you have to install it in a method similar to LFS
[06:16] <christhemonkey> so is it possible to run ubuntu on HURD?
[06:16] <skeeto> soundray: I know they work cuz I had win2k server on it
[06:16] <Kyral> christhemonkey: no idea :P
[06:16] <arrick> Frogzoo, is crossover office a free app, and where do i get it?
[06:16] <pulgoki> do you need to have the smbfs installed to use samba as a server?
[06:16] <niki> christhemonkey, you should try it and tell us :D
[06:16] <Frogzoo> !tell patrick52222 about frostwire
[06:16] <Kyral> that could be an interesting experiment
[06:16] <Njal> yes
[06:16] <trappist> arrick: no, and www.codeweavers.com
[06:16] <Kyral> I mean its not Linux
[06:16] <Frogzoo> arrick: crossover office costs real money
[06:16] <christhemonkey> lol :p
[06:16] <Kyral> the HURD I mean
[06:17] <soundray> skeeto: if the installer kernel doesn't recognize your RAID, it's going to be difficult to install without major trickery. Would installing the ubuntu root on a separate, non-RAID drive be an option?
[06:17] <Njal> you need smbfs for a samba server
[06:17] <Kyral> Debian Sid has packages for HURD
[06:17] <niki> Kyral, it's not UNIX based?
[06:17] <silasj> hello
[06:17] <Njal> now, how do you set up a samba share?
[06:17] <Kyral> niki: It was intended to be a free replacement of Unix
[06:17] <soundray> skeeto: you can probably then make the RAID work for data after you've installed the base system.
[06:17] <spiderworm> oskude: looks like you're right... let me try with system ffmpeg and if that doesnt work i'll grab cvs checkout
[06:17] <XVampireX> Yello :)
[06:17] <axel> hi
[06:17] <niki> Kyral, ohhhhhh
[06:17] <arrick> Frogzoo, is there a free version? I want to run quickbooks pro in ubuntu
[06:17] <Kyral> Hell, the entire GNU project is
[06:17] <patrick52222> frogzoo:how do i do  the convert bit
[06:17] <silasj> how can I get the encoding of a file? the [file]  command doesn't return anything about.
[06:18] <skeeto> soundray: let me see if I can do that
[06:18] <oskude> spiderworm, roger, btw, looks better "libxmu-dev"
[06:18] <XVampireX> Hey, I got a question.... Will I be able to play Mods of games such as Diablo 2 if I run it through Wine?
[06:18] <arrick> XVampireX, morning
[06:18] <axel> have port 22 open have openssh server installed can trace and ping but get refused from remote connection any ideads
[06:18] <christhemonkey> http://www.pick.ucam.org/~mcv21/hurd.html
[06:18] <spiderworm> oskude: eh?
[06:18] <XVampireX> arrick: More like evening here
[06:19] <arrick> Frogzoo, any other app, maybee that works similiar?
[06:19] <arrick> ok
[06:19] <arrick> morning here
[06:19] <Frogzoo> arrick: try wine - best to install wine & then install winetools to configure it
[06:19] <arrick> ok
[06:19] <niki> hey, there's a #hurd on freenode :)
[06:19] <trappist> arrick: afaik that's the only way to run quickbooks
[06:19] <Kyral> niki: no kiddin'
[06:19] <oskude> spiderworm, i had to install "libxmu-headers" tho get past the first error: ../Xw/Box.h:26:32: error: X11/Xmu/Converters.h: No such file or directory, needs "libxmu-dev" too/instead
[06:19] <arrick> afaik?
[06:19] <axel> niki: your telling me
[06:19] <trappist> arrick: except something like vmware, where you run the whole windows
[06:19] <trappist> arrick: As Far As I Know
[06:19] <arrick> ok
[06:19] <arrick> you mean wine right?
[06:19] <spiderworm> dammit, oskude can you paste the command to grab a cvs checkout again?
[06:19] <XVampireX> Frogzoo,  talking to me perhaps? :P
[06:19] <niki> kyral, axel, i didn't know it was there :P
[06:20] <trappist> arrick: crossover office is wine on steroids
[06:20] <spiderworm> oskude: oh ok :) yeah i already had that one installed
[06:20] <trappist> vmware is something completely different
[06:20] <arrick> oh ok
[06:20] <oskude> spiderworm, damn, i now get the same error as i got back in hoary first... main.c:543: error: CAP_AVI undeclared (first use in this function)
[06:20] <oskude> spiderworm, then you could make dir like "myprogs" in your home dir and "cd"ing in to it and then getting the xvidcap source code with "cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/xvidcap co ."
[06:20] <christhemonkey> theres also a debian mailing list for HURD
[06:20] <trappist> arrick: wine lets you run windows software.  vmware lets you run windows.
[06:21] <arrick> Frogzoo, do i use 'sudo apt-get install wine' for that?
[06:21] <arrick> ok trappist, thanks
[06:21] <sgrgc> !ping
[06:21] <ubotu> pong
[06:21] <spiderworm> thanks oskude getting it now
[06:21] <christhemonkey> going to go now an try to get an ubuntu HURD box going :D
[06:21] <christhemonkey> thanks for the idea!
[06:22] <niki> christhemonkey, come back and tell us how it goes :D:D
[06:22] <arrick> !wine
[06:22] <christhemonkey> :D will do!
[06:22] <christhemonkey> bye
[06:22] <XVampireX> Hey
[06:22] <niki> bye!
[06:22] <XVampireX> Can I run game mods from Wine?
[06:23] <sgrgc> !pong
[06:23] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sgrgc
[06:23] <Frogzoo> arrick: yes - mixed success for quickbooks reported on the wine app db: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=493
[06:23] <venky> i have installed gaimbeta2 but i dont know how to run it
[06:23] <venky> i dont see a shortcut
[06:23] <Kyral> venky: its in /usr/local/bin
[06:23] <Kyral> it will replace GAIM
[06:23] <Kyral> automatically
[06:23] <Kyral> due to $PATH
[06:23] <arrick> ok
[06:23] <indypende> hi all
[06:24] <arrick> thanks
[06:24] <XVampireX> "XVampireX Can I run game mods from Wine?"
[06:24] <venky> how shud i go to the directory
[06:24] <sgrgc> !rq
[06:24] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sgrgc
[06:24] <spiderworm> oskude: damn, this is one loooong configure
[06:24] <niki> venky, cd /usr/local/bin
[06:25] <soundray> XVampireX: feeling ignored?
[06:25] <Kyral> venky: the menu shortcut will launch it
[06:25] <oskude> spiderworm, it compiles the included ffmpeg library...
[06:25] <skeeto> soundjay: yeah I can do that
[06:25] <soundray> skeeto: is it a solution for you?
[06:25] <XVampireX> soundray: Indeed
[06:26] <soundray> XVampireX: I'd try to help if I knew what you meant by game mods.
[06:26] <XVampireX> modifications of games
[06:26] <giggsey> I've just put in a new gfx card in my dapper, and now X won't load.
[06:26] <venky> there is nothing inside that directory
[06:26] <XVampireX> So you can change the gameplay of a game
[06:26] <soundray> XVampireX: if the original game runs, I don't see why the mod shouldn't.
[06:26] <skeeto> soundray: yeah, It will have too cuz it seems like its not gonna work with the SCSI
[06:26] <patrick52222> im having probs with java its seems to install but when i check version it no thte one
[06:26] <skeeto> soundray: thanks for your help man
[06:26] <XVampireX> For example, to get a Diablo 2: LoD mod running I need to replace several files
[06:26] <soundray> skeeto: one thing you should consider is doing a software RAID
[06:27] <XVampireX> DLLS and the main gameplay file Patch_D2.mpq
[06:27] <_jason> giggsey: #ubuntu+1 for dapper, something to try would be 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:27] <soundray> skeeto: instead of leaving it to the adapter.
[06:27] <nury> ola
[06:27] <niki> XVampireX, game mods work for UT linux
[06:27] <XVampireX> Yeah, But I mean Wine games
[06:27] <niki> XVampireX, oh...
[06:27] <XVampireX> As in, Windows Games used with  Wine on Linux
[06:27] <giggsey> _jason: Thanks
[06:27] <nury> ola
[06:27] <skeeto> soundray: yeah that sounds like a good idea
[06:28] <venky> i did make install and then make clean
[06:28] <XVampireX> So will I be able to run game mods? Does Wine run games EXACTLY like it runs on Windows?
[06:29] <fyrebat> hey all, does anyone know what lex is, or how to install a 'flex' package?
[06:29] <mephis1987> what command that send message to the user in my system
[06:29] <soundray> fyrebat: 'sudo apt-get install flex'
[06:29] <Frogzoo> mephis1987: wall ?
[06:29] <fyrebat> thx man
[06:29] <lkd-efs> little help getting my audigy working?
[06:29] <Frogzoo> wall boo
[06:29] <lkd-efs> i get sound but it's intermittent
[06:29] <_jason> mephis1987: write
[06:30] <truz24> How can I delete files that are created/modified before a certain date?
[06:30] <soundray> !tell lkd-efs about sound
[06:30] <jetKins> hi, how do i know if apm is on in ubuntu?
[06:30] <nono> plop all
[06:30] <_jason> mephis1987: you can use wall for everyone to see
[06:30] <nono> Comment editer le fichier que gere grub ?
[06:30] <nono> pour le choix du systeme au demarage ?
[06:30] <_jason> !fr
[06:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:30] <nono> (pour ventuellement, mettre Windows par defaut)
[06:30] <nono> k
[06:30] <Passion> I've used recent dapper on my laptop so far.  since some days ago, the fonts on the program using TTF Font (Windows Font called Gulim) have looked broken, but if i move the mouse cursor over the area, it looks well. The problem's occuring only to me or not.
[06:30] <spiderworm> oskude: getting errors like this: xt_control.c:110: error: AppData has no member named fps
[06:30] <lkd-efs> thanks soiundray i'll give it a whirl
[06:31] <oskude> spiderworm, error or warning ?
[06:31] <venky> iam wondering what happened to my installation
[06:31] <spiderworm> oskude: errors
[06:31] <jetKins> hi... what is the command do i use so that i will know if my APM is on
[06:32] <oskude> spiderworm, the error i get (and lot others) seems to have something to do with ffmpeg, ill try compiling it manuall...
[06:32] <Frogzoo> Passion: -> ubuntu+1
[06:32] <oskude> spiderworm, post your errors in pastebin
[06:33] <GnarusLeo> anyone have an idea on my problem?
[06:33] <GnarusLeo> +c
[06:33] <GnarusLeo> Hi, I have a problem with amarok using xine-engine, when I try to choose it it says: "xine was unable to load any audio-drivers" ... if I try about 10 times ittl work at the end ... any ideas?
[06:33] <spiderworm> oskude: http://pastebin.com/627081
[06:34] <doubletwist> GnarusLeo I could only get it to work well with the gstreamer engine.
[06:34] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: check your audio card is detected in /var/log/messages
[06:34] <jortega> alguien sabe como meterse en los chat de las ciudades
[06:34] <venky> i am trying to install gaim beta 2 , i installed it with make install but i dont find anything in /usr/local/bin directory
[06:34] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, it works sometimes ... doubletwist: Does that play mp3?
[06:34] <venky> how shud i launch the program
[06:35] <oskude> spiderworm, do ctrl+c after running the command and the first error comes and paste all (including the command)
[06:35] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: /var/log/messages is first place to look...
[06:35] <GnarusLeo> venky, an easier way would be "sudo apt-get install gaim"
[06:35] <LoCusF> !naama velli split 7" pulkka-avanto
[06:35] <ubotu> LoCusF: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:35] <venky> ya but thats not beta 2
[06:35] <icaro> hi
[06:35] <linuhxmastah> you suck
[06:35] <spiderworm> oskude: what you have there is the first error and all the errors after
[06:35] <linuhxmastah> all of you!
[06:36] <spiderworm> linuhxmastah: who told?
[06:36] <linuhxmastah> shame on you!
[06:36] <arrick> linuhxmastah, why you geting crazy?
[06:36] <nathanj> where do i extract the mplayer-essentials?
[06:36] <arrick> best help Iv had was from in here
[06:36] <linuhxmastah> we should all support one port
[06:36] <Frogzoo>  /ignore linuhxmastah
[06:36] <niki> linuhxmastah, that's boring
[06:36] <oskude> spiderworm, hmm
[06:36] <niki> linuhxmastah, i like to try lots of different ports...it's fun :)
[06:36] <jmartini> which port? port 80? port 25?
[06:37] <venky> kyral r u there?
[06:37] <Kyral> hmm?
[06:37] <Kyral> venky did you do sudo make install?
[06:37] <oskude> spiderworm, http://www.jarre-de-the.net/faq/index.php?aktion=artikel&rubrik=002&id=5&lang=en
[06:37] <arrick> or do you mean channel? #ubuntu rocks, working with ports sucks at times
[06:37] <icaro> I have a kind of problem with a printer, once I install the driver and conect the usb driver the gnome-printer program doesn't work
[06:38] <venky> oh ok
[06:38] <Kyral> !compile
[06:38] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[06:38] <arrick> linuhxmastah, whats your question, or are you just complaining?
[06:38] <linuhxmastah> im complaining
[06:38] <spiderworm> oskude: hmmm, reading, thanks
[06:38] <arrick> I thought so,
[06:38] <inruza5> naaaaaaas
[06:38] <arrick> you want to try a channel that sucks go to #wine, man they're pretty rude in ther
[06:39] <niki> linuhxmastah, you should complain in #ubuntu-offtopic .... this is a support channel :)
[06:39] <arrick> #winehq
[06:39] <fyrebat> anyone know how to install x development headers? "sudo apt-get install x development headers" ?
[06:39] <niki> arrick, yeah, or #slackware .... they banned me just for _asking_ about wireless networking
[06:39] <arrick> Hahah
[06:39] <patrick52222> java now says i have to run this to install "dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb" but it wont allow me
[06:40] <Cubies> WOW! This is a lot of Ubuntu users.
[06:40] <jmartini> niki: Bob hates wireless... no slack
[06:40] <XVampireX> :P
[06:40] <patrick52222> wat should i do
[06:40] <Cubies> Hi, I'm one of those annoying noobs you read about. I'm stuck using Windows now I want to start learning Unbuntu to cross into the realms of the other side.
[06:40] <niki> Cubies, that's because ubuntu is teH force!
[06:40] <Rubin> patrick52222: are you using sudo?
[06:40] <jmartini> patrick52222: what error do you get when you try to run it?
[06:40] <oskude> spiderworm, ok, i got "checking for img_convert in -lavcodec... no" too...
[06:40] <spiderworm> fyrebat: problably apt-get install X11-dev or something
[06:41] <fyrebat> thx, I'll try that
[06:41] <Cubies> Well not really 'annoying'.
[06:41] <patrick52222> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[06:41] <Cubies> More...
[06:41] <arrick> cubies, your following in my footsteps from friday
[06:41] <arrick> I just started using ubuntu friday morning
[06:41] <_jason> Cubies: no a noob who reads cannot be annoying
[06:41] <patrick52222> but no password promt comes up
[06:41] <_jason> Cubies: welcome :)
[06:41] <Rubin> patrick52222: put sudo in front
[06:41] <Fracture> how do I release a DVD recorded when cdrecord crashed while writing a disk ?  I can't eject it, and it reckons its not mounted.
[06:41] <oskude> spiderworm, ill try ubuntus ffmpeg, sec..
[06:41] <arrick> Cubies, whats your question?
[06:42] <Mabus06> How can I configure my system so I am alerted to ssh login attempts?
[06:42] <patrick52222> ok
[06:42] <patrick52222> nah now it working
[06:42] <spiderworm> oskude: ok
[06:42] <Rubin> Fracture: thats one of my biggest pet peves about ubuntu.
[06:42] <doubletwist> Fracture: Use a paper-clip or reboot.
[06:42] <msid> is there any guide available on how to configure smartmontools on ubuntu ?
[06:42] <Cubies> I'm looking forward to customising my Unbuntu GUI so it 'ownz' (I too can be 'elite') I've tried customising Winblows, but there are too many limitations.
[06:42] <Fracture> well those answers suck
[06:42] <Fracture> :(
[06:42] <Fracture> hehe
[06:42] <fyrebat> spiderworm: couldn't find the package, how would I find the name I'm looking for?
[06:42] <Rubin> Mabus06: if you install logwatch you'll get a daily email
[06:42] <doubletwist> Fracture : Actually sometimes if I do a 'sudo eject' it will then let me manually eject by pushing the button on the drive.
[06:42] <Cubies> Oh! I don't really have any questions just a few queries.
[06:43] <doubletwist> Fracture but that's a 50/50 shot at best.
[06:43] <Fracture> so far I have had more crashes and reboots with ubuntu than I did with xp :(
[06:43] <Cubies> RTFM?
[06:43] <Cubies> o.o
[06:43] <Frogzoo> msid: /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/examples/
[06:43] <Mabus06> Rubin: Thanks, but I'd like to be alerted so I can shut it down if it's malicious, I've been having problems with people trying to bruteforce me.
[06:43] <spiderworm> fyrebat: maybe apt-cache search X11  ......  and look for something that looks correctish
[06:43] <mds\> Fracture; is your install fully updated?
[06:43] <msid> thanx Frogzoo :)
[06:43] <BitNinja707> how do i start FTP on Breezy?
[06:43] <mds\> I had the same probs until I installed the latest
[06:44] <patrick52222> yey it worked cheers all
[06:44] <arrick> !RTFM
[06:44] <ubotu> arrick: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:44] <fdesar> Mabus06: have a look at logcheck package. ssh logs thru syslog...
[06:44] <spiderworm> whoa, lots of results
[06:44] <Cubies> I'm just wondering if I can still play my mass collection of mp3 albums I've ripped to my secondary harddrive.
[06:44] <Fracture> mds\: yeah, I was using a fully updated breezy.  i've since switched to dapper (fully updated) and its actually been more stable !
[06:44] <Rubin> Mabus06: its not you. Every ip on the internet gets attacked.
[06:44] <Rubin> Mabus06: if you choose good passwords, you can ignore it
[06:44] <venky> ok it is connected but says ssl support is needed
[06:44] <venky> how shud i install that
[06:44] <mds\> Fracture; is this a new machine?  new mobo etc?
[06:44] <arrick> !mp3
[06:44] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <Rubin> Mabus06: short of that I reccomend a hosts.allow setup, or iptables rules, or maybe change what port ssh runs on
[06:44] <sfar-ubu> !sound
[06:44] <ubotu> I heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:44] <Cubies> Nifty!
[06:44] <Rubin> Mabus06: but mostly i suggest ignoring it
[06:44] <Cubies> !soda
[06:44] <ubotu> Cubies: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:45] <arrick> Cubies, read
[06:45] <Cubies> !pizza
[06:45] <ubotu> Cubies: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:45] <spiderworm> fyrebat: here you go:   libx11-dev    <---- prolly the package you're looking for
[06:45] <arrick> !mp3
[06:45] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:45] <Fracture> mds\: new as at feb last year - amd 64 3500+ cpu, asus a8n-sli deluxe mobo
[06:45] <Cubies> If in doubt, Wiki.
[06:45] <arrick> yeah
[06:45] <Cubies> I'm looking forward to using Unbuntu LiveCD for the very first time.
[06:46] <Cubies> Yes! I am a Ubuntu virgin.
[06:46] <arrick> man I installed it so I could have it all the time, i liked it so well
[06:46] <mds\> I'm moving to dapper now since my hardware isn't properly recognized in breezy..  that might have been your problem too
[06:46] <LinuxJones> Cubies: you've used linux before though ?
[06:46] <arrick> dual booted with XP Pro
[06:46] <Cubies> Nope.
[06:46] <Cubies> I'm a Windower.
[06:46] <LinuxJones> Cubies: It jsut takes a little getting used to after a month you will probably not bother booting into windows unless your a gamer.
[06:46] <Cubies> I've used OSX before.
[06:47] <arrick> yep
[06:47] <Fracture> mds\: yeah, I think so
[06:47] <Frogzoo> mp3s ate my doze partition ^_^
[06:47] <Fracture> mds\: though, i've still had a few FROZEN crashes
[06:47] <rhalff_> hi anyone experienced distorted video output with ogle in dapper ? I
[06:47] <rhalff_> and my know what could be the problem :)
[06:48] <mds\> well dapper isn
[06:48] <arrick> rhalff_, use the @ubuntu+1
[06:48] <rhalff_> might
[06:48] <mds\> well dapper isn't stable yet :)
[06:48] <Cubies> I just need to find alternatives to, mIRC, Winamp and VideoLAN.
[06:48] <niki> Cubies, done, done, and done
[06:48] <arrick> yep
[06:48] <seraphim> xchat, xmms, vlc
[06:48] <rhalff_> arrick, what is the @ubuntu+!
[06:48] <Cubies> Exellent.
[06:48] <arrick> much better in ubuntu
[06:48] <niki> _much_
[06:48] <Fracture> Cubies: mIrc -> gnome-xchat, winamp -> totem / vlc
[06:48] <arrick> thats the dapper support page
[06:48] <oskude> spiderworm, hmm, still -lavcodec and -lavformat no" ...
[06:48] <rhalff_> ah ok
[06:48] <Cubies> So many to choose from.
[06:48] <doubletwist> Cubies : Winamp: xmms or beep media player; mirc: xchat, VideoLAN: VideoLan or gxine
[06:48] <LinuxJones> Cubies: vlc is available for linux, xchat-gnome and there are tons of music players
[06:49] <seraphim> rhythmobox is the default music-player in ubuntu
[06:49] <spiderworm> hmmm i wonder if we're gonna be able to get this working
[06:49] <Cubies> I know the best software for Windows, but not for Linux.
[06:49] <niki> Cubies, get amarok, it's my favorite...but i have like 10 different ones installed :P
[06:49] <doubletwist> I've been using amarok for music though
[06:49] <harisund> talking about music, I have GnuMP3D streaming my music. It streams in a .pls WinAmp playlist format
[06:49] <budluva> anyone know if broadcom wireless drivers work out of the box in dapper?
[06:50] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> Hey something new in the ubuntu community?
[06:50] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> :D
[06:50] <Cubies> Yes, me. :P
[06:50] <niki> haha
[06:50] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> cool
[06:50] <LinuxJones> budluva: in dapper it's ready to use but I don't have a wireless network to test it on.
[06:50] <arrick> how do I get my external drive working in ubuntu, when it is ntfs partitions?
[06:50] <giany911> u guys saw dapper drake screenshots?
[06:50] <Cubies> Hit it with a hammer.
[06:50] <giany911> looks nice
[06:50] <Cubies> Shouting profanities also helps.
[06:50] <oskude> spiderworm, i got it under hoary, with the same error... just cant remember what i did :)
[06:50] <budluva> LinuxJones, bcm43xx works out of the box?
[06:50] <niki> arrick, i plugged mine in and rebooted
[06:50] <arrick> ok, thanks
[06:50] <arrick> brb
[06:50] <niki> arrick, worked fine, there was an icon on the desktop for it
[06:50] <arrick> ok
[06:50] <Fracture> anyone here managed to get a dvb card working on dapper ?
[06:50] <niki> :D
[06:51] <spiderworm> oskude: you begged it kindly?  you offered it money?
[06:51] <harisund> people, how do you rate Dapper Drake against FC 5? I believe that is pretty good too..
[06:51] <arrick> there was with the live cd, but not here, brb
[06:51] <harisund> Only it comes on 5 CDs!
[06:51] <oskude> spiderworm, i hacked it my self :)
[06:51] <budluva> LinuxJones, did you just dist-upgrade to dapper?
[06:51] <Cubies> Don't belittle yourself by bribing harddrive into working for you
[06:51] <spiderworm> oskude: ah :)
[06:51] <Cubies> Brute force and ignorance is the way forward.
[06:51] <LinuxJones> budluva: it's available in network-admin but just needs to be configured. I can't verify if it works though. I't uses the native kernel module from 2.1.16 tree.
[06:51] <RMeist> 0
[06:52] <Cubies> 01
[06:52] <Cubies> We talkin' in binary now?
[06:52] <budluva> LinuxJones, hrmm...ill have to check it and let you know
[06:52] <LinuxJones> budluva: I did a clean install yesterday and the installer found it automagically
[06:52] <Cubies> Haha.
[06:52] <Cubies> Automagically.
[06:52] <budluva> LinuxJones, what about sound?
[06:52] <Cubies> You crazy Linux people.
[06:53] <niki> :/
[06:53] <thoreauputic> Cubies: and proud of it ! :)
[06:53] <Cubies> :D
[06:53] <LinuxJones> budluva: I have an Acer Aspire 5002 everything except for synaptics touchpad is working great
[06:53] <fyrebat> spicerworm: thanx, just got your mssg, I"ll try libx11-dev
[06:53] <budluva> LinuxJones, breezy see's my ac97 atiixp card and every thing seems ok, modules, sound volume, but still no sound on my lappy in breezy
[06:53] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:53] <Cubies> I'm just relified to not find you all talkin' in l33t speak.
[06:54] <LinuxJones> budluva: what kind of laptop is it ?
[06:54] <mds\> real 1337 ppl don't do that
[06:54] <thoreauputic> Cubies: l33t speak is really uncool around here ;)
[06:54] <budluva> LinuxJones, gateway mx7525
[06:54] <fyrebat> spiderworm: thanx, just got your mssg, I"ll try libx11-dev
[06:54] <Cubies> I'm glad the trend has passed.
[06:54] <budluva> LinuxJones, my synaptics touchpad works out of the box in breezy
[06:54] <oskude> spiderworm, im now trying to compile the included ffmpeg with : ./configure --enable-gpl --enable-mp3lame --enable-libogg --enable-vorbis --enable-theora --enable-xvid
[06:54] <athayde> Hello, I've installed the ubuntu... I like so much of the distro that I'm gonna format my windows version
[06:54] <doubletwist> Personally I consider properly spoken/written Enlish to be 'elite speak' :)
[06:54] <spiderworm> fyrebat: sheesh, i wrote that three days ago.  try to keep up ;)
[06:54] <spiderworm> oskude: whoa you crazy flag man
[06:54] <thoreauputic> doubletwist: you just failed on a typo :)
[06:54] <fyrebat> spiderworm: heh, I was reading through that uber x11 list
[06:54] <niki> lol
[06:55] <doubletwist> oops
[06:55] <Cubies> Like using capitalisation and grammar?
[06:55] <thoreauputic> heh
[06:55] <Fracture> scan
[06:55] <pulgoki> anyone here using swat in ubuntu and how to get it running without inetd?
[06:55] <oskude> spiderworm, you can have more if you like :) ./configure --help
[06:55] <athayde> I've some musics into windows... How should I pick that musics and bring to ubuntu ? Can anyone help me with ?
[06:55] <doubletwist> Gimme a break I'm splitting my time between two keybards, and watching a video intently. :)P
[06:55] <spiderworm> oskude: sure why not, let's pile them all on
[06:55] <thoreauputic> Cubies: capitalisation is going too far
[06:55] <XVampireX> athayde, you'll need to access your windows file system
[06:55] <spiderworm> let's see if the --fast-math flag will work :)
[06:56] <Cubies> I'm must be ultra elite to you people.
[06:56] <oskude> spiderworm, :) i thought for starters we could use mp3/ogg and theora/xvid
[06:56] <XVampireX> athayde, what file system are you using?
[06:56] <athayde> XVampireX,  fat32
[06:56] <LinuxJones> budluva: let me see if i can find some info
[06:56] <XVampireX> Oh
[06:56] <Cubies> I know where the 'shift' key is on my keyboard.
[06:56] <Cubies> I'm so elite.
[06:56] <Mabus06> q
[06:56] <XVampireX> I know I was able to use NTFS but I don't know about FAT32
[06:56] <harisund_> Cubies, I know where both the shift keys are !
[06:56] <Cubies> There's two???
[06:56] <Cubies> :O
[06:56] <spiderworm> athayde: what are you trying to do?
[06:56] <thoreauputic> Cubies: wow - and you don't have it stuck on capslock!
[06:56] <seraphim> you can use fat32 better than ntfs
[06:57] <Cubies> XD
[06:57] <doubletwist> Cubies Yeah, two AND a capslock!
[06:57] <Enthusiast78> Any clue how do I set postfix to use smarthost with authentication?
[06:57] <Eleaf> hihi
[06:57] <Cubies> I do, do annoying smilies though.
[06:57] <athayde> spiderworm, bring my musics to ubuntu
[06:57] <spiderworm> athayde: MP3s on a windows drive or partition I take it?
[06:57] <doubletwist> And too many commas apparrently. :)
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Cubies:  ^_^
[06:57] <harisund_> So cubiues, what other elite stuff do you know?
[06:57] <Cubies> ^.^
[06:57] <msid> Frogzoo: how can i start the smartd daemons from /etc/inid.t/ on boot ?
[06:57] <oskude> spiderworm, ffmpeg seems to compile fine (well, some "minor" warnings)
[06:57] <giany911> hey dudes where are firefox bookmarks saved ?
[06:57] <Cubies> You, can never, have too, many, commas.
[06:58] <athayde> spiderworm, on a partition when I need take it
[06:58] <spiderworm> athayde: cd /media/
[06:58] <FredeFup> have a problem with my wireless connection. I've managed to set up the wpa_supplicant, I'm using WPA encryption. Everything looks fine, the key is auth'ed, I get an IP adress from my DHCP. But the network is just not working. I'm not receiving anything. Any ideas on the next step in my troubleshooting?
[06:58] <doubletwist> Cubies Not if you want to look like you're William Shatner!
[06:58] <spiderworm> athayde: then do a "ls" in there
[06:58] <harisund_> giany911, you can export your firefox books to a file..
[06:58] <athayde> ok
[06:58] <spiderworm> athayde: what do you have in /media ?
[06:58] <Cubies> From Star Trek?
[06:58] <doubletwist> Yes from Star Trek.
[06:58] <niki> Cubies, that would be him...
[06:58] <harisund_> But other wise, they can be found in ~/.mozilla I think. In there you will find another folder
[06:58] <Cubies> I... Can't seem to... Use the... Machine.
[06:58] <athayde> cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  windows
[06:58] <giany911> harisund i wanna load my bookmarks ..and i dont know where to put the file
[06:58] <msid> how can i add something to run on boot from /etc/init.d ?
[06:58] <arrick> niki: I rebooted, and cant view the contents?
[06:59] <harisund_> Oh, you can go to Firefox, bookmarks, manage bookmarks
[06:59] <harisund_> And then import them from an external file
[06:59] <harisund_> msid, look up a command named update-rc.d
[06:59] <spiderworm> athayde: cd /media/windows
[06:59] <niki> arrick, make sure it's mounted
[06:59] <Cubies> I know how to abbreviate video game titles into letters.
[06:59] <Cubies> FFXII.
[06:59] <niki> arrick, mine mounted automatically
[06:59] <harisund_> giyan911, did you get what I was trying to say>?
[06:59] <arrick> how do you mount?
[06:59] <spiderworm> athayde: that should be your windows drive... take a look around and copy the files over
[07:00] <Cubies> With antisipation.
[07:00] <MenZa> Cubies: Final Fantasy Twelve?
[07:00] <Cubies> Yes.
[07:00] <MenZa> Congrats.
[07:00] <niki> arrick, it's mount /dev/yourdevice i think :P
[07:00] <giany911> harisund loud and clear ty
[07:00] <seraphim> To mount a FAT 32 partition with Read/Write permissions, do this: "sudo mount /dev/hdd# /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"
[07:00] <harisund_> Great !
[07:00] <niki> arrick, sudo
[07:00] <athayde> okay
[07:00] <msid> harisund: thanks
[07:00] <Fracture> i've installed my dvb driver, yet I don't have a device /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
[07:00] <davidmoore83> heh - sat here smug that i am running XP in Ubuntu :)
[07:00] <Cubies> I get cookies for being elite.
[07:00] <Cubies> That is elite
[07:00] <harisund_> msid, you know about run levels, right?
[07:00] <Zunino> Hello. Could anybody help me in installing the cvs package? I haven't been able to do it because as I run 'sudo apt-get install cvs', apt-get requests me to insert the Breezy installation CDROM, which I don't have with me. Thank you.
[07:00] <giany911> now ..about something else ..can anyone help me install my tuner?
[07:00] <LinuxJones> budluva: there may be some info here >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=421354
[07:00] <harisund_> YOu will need to know about them if you want to add scripts to startup...
[07:00] <venky> i am not able to install SSh for gaim
[07:01] <venky> dont kow whats the issue
[07:01] <budluva> LinuxJones, thanks bro
[07:01] <IamEthos> which compiler should I use?
[07:01] <Cubies> I read SSH as, sssshshhhhhhh.
[07:01] <thoreauputic> Cubies: claiming to be elite disqualifies your eliteness by definition ;-)
[07:01] <venky> ya SSH sorry
[07:01] <IamEthos> to compile kxdocker
[07:01] <IamEthos> it needs a c compiler
[07:01] <Cubies> C#
[07:01] <spiderworm> athayde: of course, instead of using the command line, now that you know where the windows drive is mounted on your ubuntu OS, you can use the file browser to copy the files over
[07:01] <maczek> hello everybody, this is maczek from poland speaking :)
[07:01] <Cubies> Then how would people know I'm elite?
[07:01] <gnomefreak> IamEthos: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:02] <doubletwist> Zunino: You can remove the cdrom entry from /etc/apt/sources.list either manually or using synaptic. Then do 'sudo apt-get update' [or use synaptic to update]  and it should stop asking for the cd.
[07:02] <niki> hello, maczek from poland
[07:02] <ubuntu> spiderworm,  MM
[07:02] <ubuntu> yes
[07:02] <thoreauputic> Cubies: by your actions and knowledge?
[07:02] <fyrebat> spiderworm: ah, I thought it was working- I'm installing wine, and it was installing for a long time. Then it aborted the install with the message "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext"
[07:02] <Zunino> doubletwist, thank you very much. I will give it a shot.
[07:02] <Cubies> I'll wear a crown.
[07:02] <spiderworm> ubuntu: eh?
[07:02] <harisund_> Wow ! There is so much activity going on at any given time, how do people keep track without going nuts?
[07:02] <athayde> spiderworm,   apt-get search mplayer
[07:02] <athayde>  this is right ?
[07:02] <doubletwist> harisund_ read faster :)
[07:02] <spiderworm> fyrebat: how are you going about installing wine?
[07:02] <thoreauputic> harisund: this is quiet
[07:02] <niki> harisund, you pretty much have to address the person you're talking to by name :D
[07:03] <doubletwist> yeah that too.
[07:03] <davidmoore83> harisund buy typing names so things highlight
[07:03] <harisund_> Wow ! cool..
[07:03] <niki> awesome! yeah!
[07:03] <harisund_> things highlight? Which IRC client is that?
[07:03] <harisund_> I am using irssi through the command line .
[07:03] <spiderworm> athayde: if you want to install mplayer, use synaptic .... it's in the menu System > Administration
[07:03] <niki> harisund, i'm using xchat, it highlights
[07:03] <Cubies> People will know I'm elite when I load Unbuntu.
[07:03] <athayde> ok
[07:03] <fyrebat> spiderworm: I downloaded a wine folder, then from command line I type: "./tools/wineinstall
[07:03] <davidmoore83> harisund xchat
[07:03] <harisund_> Xchat. Ok.. will try that ..thanks a lot !
[07:03] <spiderworm> fyrebat: oh dearie me
[07:03] <Cubies> Then will go "Ooooooh!" 'cos they will think I know Linux.
[07:03] <spiderworm> fyrebat: one sec
[07:03] <IamEthos> configure: error: Can't find X includes.  Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:03] <IamEthos> I got that
[07:03] <thoreauputic> harisund: irssi also hightlights if so configured
[07:03] <fyrebat> spiderworm: k
[07:04] <harisund_> It does? Hmm.. ok guys, I will be signing off for a while and checking out how to configure irssi..
[07:04] <IamEthos> Cubuies: Ubuntu is remarkably easy to install
[07:04] <XVampireX> Woops.... for a moment I thought Wine was a DirectX Layer for Linux.... turns out it's a Windows Layer...
[07:04] <niki> harisund, hasta!
[07:04] <harisund_> see ya soon !
[07:04] <davidmoore83> yh harisund without highlight IRC is a sod
[07:04] <IamEthos> that's sort of the idea behind it
[07:04] <spiderworm> good gollie there is a lot of help for noobs that needs to happen in here
[07:04] <Cubies> On what kind of partition?
[07:04] <doubletwist> I don't have highlighting set up in Bitchx which I'm using now.
[07:04] <thoreauputic> harisund: try typing /help in irssi :)
[07:04] <IamEthos> no one will think you're leet
[07:04] <Cubies> Can I use NTFS partition?
[07:04] <niki> Cubies, as read-only
[07:04] <Cubies> Yes they will.
[07:05] <IamEthos> (shudder- I hate saying things like that.)
[07:05] <spiderworm> fyrebat: go to this page: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb  .... there's instructions there for getting the precompiled binaries using apt & synaptic
[07:05] <doubletwist> I'm too 'leet' to require highlighting. Yeah that's what it is! [not] 
[07:05] <Cubies> 'Cos you're lieing.
[07:05] <IamEthos> I'm pretty sure you can't instally it on an NTFS partition
[07:05] <zaibiechu> what is "ppklite.api"
[07:05] <athayde> spiderworm, I can't find any packet for mplayer
[07:05] <spiderworm> fyrebat: basically you need to add some repos, then update, then install wine with synaptic
[07:05] <Cubies> FAT32?
[07:05] <niki> no, you can't install on ntfs or fat32
[07:05] <gitanita> helloooooooooooooooooooo
[07:05] <IamEthos> oh
[07:05] <IamEthos> that's right
[07:05] <Cubies> Hummm.
[07:06] <Zunino> doubletwist: that did the trick; I have now successfully installed cvs from a network repository. Thanks again.
[07:06] <IamEthos> because it needs to create a root user
[07:06] <maczek> guys, I need some help regarding the ati radeon 9550 xorg.conf file. Is there anybody who can help me?
[07:06] <IamEthos> and fat32 doesn't support users
[07:06] <doubletwist> Zunino No problem, glad I could help.
[07:06] <niki> because it needs to be installed on a linux partition :P
[07:06] <zaibiechu> there was an error while loading the plug-in 'ppklite.api' the plutin failed to initialize
[07:06] <IamEthos> or permissions
[07:06] <niki> or something lol
[07:06] <zaibiechu> what shall i do
[07:06] <gitanita> hola soy yo!!!
[07:06] <Cubies> What kind of Linux partition?
[07:06] <spiderworm> athayde: yeah it looks like i cant find it either
[07:06] <gitanita> y ella
[07:06] <Cubies> (I only know Windows relation stuff.)
[07:06] <IamEthos> ext3
[07:06] <gitanita> tu y ella
[07:06] <athayde> "sudo mount /dev/hdd# /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"
[07:06] <gitanita> ke pasaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:06] <oskude> spiderworm, yeah, i have "yes" in lavcodec :)
[07:06] <spiderworm> athayde: what do you want mplayer for?  playing music or watching videos or what?
[07:06] <gitanita> nadie habla
[07:06] <athayde> that command doesn't work
[07:06] <gitanita> ke sois inglexses
[07:06] <thoreauputic> gitanita: stop please
[07:07] <spiderworm> oskude: nice!  what did you have to do
[07:07] <athayde> spiderworm,  both
[07:07] <Cubies> Cool.
[07:07] <Zunino> A second question: what's the right package or packages to get in order to be able to play WMV files properly?
[07:07] <athayde> but first listening some musics
[07:07] <fromvega> Where can I read how to create a cron job?
[07:07] <spiderworm> athayde: for music, try apt-get install amarok
[07:07] <gitanita> yo stop
[07:07] <jenda> !es
[07:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:07] <gitanita> hola leyenda
[07:07] <IamEthos> Cubies: if you want to dual boot, I suggest you find a program like partition magic to resize your NTFS partition non-destructively and create an ext3 partition
[07:07] <fyrebat> spiderworm: I installed ubuntu last week, so plz excuse my ignorance. What is a repo, and what is synaptic?
[07:07] <gitanita> hola
[07:07] <Cubies> I've got Partition Magic.
[07:07] <ubuntu> fyrebat,  why do you hl me ?
[07:07] <Cubies> Also got two partitions.
[07:08] <GigaClon> !tell gitanita about es
[07:08] <maczek> does anybody use Ati Radeon 9550 card?
[07:08] <fyrebat> ubunu: hl?
[07:08] <oskude> spiderworm, i compiled the included ffmpeg in its directory with long command i gave, and then make in it directory too, and then back to xvidcap dir and "make gvidcap"
[07:08] <wd3> where can i find the codec to play all formats in totem, vlc? pretty much all the players?
[07:08] <IamEthos> cubies: if you want to go linux all the way, just format your whole drive, delete the NTFS partition and create ext3
[07:08] <Cubies> Just didn't know what to format the second partition to, so I decided to download Unbuntu LiveCD for now.
[07:08] <Cubies> Thankies.
[07:08] <niki> Cubies, what IamEthos said
[07:08] <IamEthos> back up your data because you will lose anything on a partition when you change it's format
[07:08] <spiderworm> oskude: i think i just passed out.  you did what???
[07:08] <hawaisurf> hi! I have a problem with my mouse cursor....is changing from white to black sometimes I want to avoid this changes how can I set it ?
[07:08] <gitanita> ke dices ?
[07:08] <gitanita> eske soy espaola
[07:08] <spiderworm> oskude: any chance you'll just send my your binary? :)  i'm on an intel architecture here...
[07:09] <Cubies> My mouse cursor used to change into a black squre.
[07:09] <thoreauputic> gitanita: per favor, /join #ubuntu-es
[07:09] <Cubies> square
[07:09] <spiderworm> gitanita: espanola o gitana?  cual eres
[07:09] <oskude> spiderworm, i have error atm, but if/when i get it done, why not...
[07:09] <doubletwist> spiderworm Don't think you want to trust random binaries from folks on IRC :)
[07:09] <maczek> does anybody use Ati Radeon 9550 card? I need an example of xorg.conf file
[07:09] <IamEthos> Cubies: ext3 is what you should go with, I prefer to use PM if I'm keeping windows just because I feel safer, but allegedly you can do all of that in the Ubuntu installer as well
[07:09] <spiderworm> doubletwist: yes i do
[07:09] <spiderworm> oskude: thank you dude
[07:09] <wd3> where can i find w32 codecs in synaptic?
[07:10] <Cubies> Ubuntu duel boots, yes?
[07:10] <arrick> I have a external drive, connected by USB with ntfs partition and when I click on the icon it says I don not have the necessary permissions to view the files on 'usb0', any help
[07:10] <gitanita> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:10] <gitanita> helloooooooooooooooooo
[07:10] <mario123> hola
[07:10] <jenda> !ops
[07:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[07:10] <Tripke> hi all
[07:10] <gitanita> hola mario
[07:10] <arrick> quit writing unecessary junk
[07:10] <hawaisurf> hi anybody knows how to fix the color set for the mouse cursor??
[07:10] <niki> finally
[07:10] <Cubies> Almost forgot.
[07:10] <Cubies> Hay niki you so fine, you so fine you blow my mind.
[07:11] <doubletwist> hawaisurf Sorry can't help you
[07:11] <Tripke> all ubuntu users ?
[07:11] <Amaranth__> !es
[07:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:11] <Cubies> No.
[07:11] <jenda> Tripke: most probably
[07:11] <Cubies> I use Winblows.
[07:11] <davidmoore83> oh crap! i have just installed all my software and made ubuntu look good and now i need to change the kernal!
[07:11] <Josh43> Can anyone tell me where to find the setting so that my files and folders are NOT sorted with caps first?
[07:11] <maczek>  I need an example of xorg.conf file with Ati radeon 9550 card - can you help me?
[07:11] <hawaisurf> doubletwist: ok :)
[07:11] <Tripke> jenda: u know alot about ubuntu ?
[07:11] <niki> um...
[07:11] <Tripke> i buyed a wifi and it aint working
[07:11] <Cubies> Is a Kernal like a Cherrif?
[07:12] <IamEthos> I'm installing kxdocker on ubuntu, can anyone help me out?
[07:12] <arrick> no
[07:12] <jenda> Tripke: there are others who know more - about wifi, I know nothing at all.
[07:12] <davidmoore83> Cubies: do you not use linux?
[07:12] <IamEthos> I'm having trouble with the whole compiling process
[07:12] <niki> lame
[07:12] <Cubies> Never used it before.
[07:12] <Cubies> I am a Linux virgin.
[07:12] <IamEthos> Cubies: a kernel is like the basic component of the operating system
[07:12] <davidmoore83> Cubies: why are you in the ubuntu support channel then?
[07:13] <Cubies> Cos I use Windows.
[07:13] <mabus> How do you change your username in irssi? Not your nickname but the username.
[07:13] <jenda> how do I grep to find out which files contain a string? (nto which lines, just the files)
[07:13] <IamEthos> davidmoore83: he's thinking of switching to Ubuntu
[07:13] <Tripke> my wifi card aint working -> got level one wpc0300
[07:13] <Josh43> jenda, Probabyly: cat files|grep thing
[07:13] <davidmoore83> IamEthos: ah ok, surely he should just dual boot and actually try it instead of watching text here :)
[07:13] <Cubies> Just gotta burn Unbuntu LiveCD to a CD now.
[07:13] <XVampireX> I'm running on a Live CD right now :P
[07:13] <Cubies> I was waiting for it to download.
[07:13] <Cubies> o.o
[07:14] <davidmoore83> Cubies: yeah get it done! :)
[07:14] <IamEthos> yeah, try the LiveCD first Cubies
[07:14] <IamEthos> if you like that
[07:14] <jmartini> jenda: grep files string
[07:14] <darkriser> jenda, grep works with filesw directly
[07:14] <XVampireX> Ubuntu rocks!
[07:14] <oskude> spiderworm, now i get the expact same error as you :)
[07:14] <niki> Cubies, if you are just here for chat, there is a #ubuntu-offtopic channel that is perfect for that :)
[07:14] <wd3> command for automount cdrw = dev/hdb and dvd = dev/hdd ?
[07:14] <IamEthos> (or think you might like it) then try dual booting Ubuntu
[07:14] <davidmoore83> Cubies: i have windows running in ubuntu ;)
[07:14] <Cubies> I'd love a PC that can go faster than I can use it.
[07:14] <Frogzoo> jenda: grep -H
[07:14] <arrick> haha
[07:14] <no8hl> XVampireX,  no.gentoo rocks/
[07:14] <XVampireX> Very easy to use and has most programs you need
[07:14] <IamEthos> if you still like it, you can go all the way
[07:14] <wd3> davidmoore83,  how?
[07:14] <arrick> Cubies, I never have gotten that
[07:14] <jenda> thanks Frogzoo s that's what i needed.
[07:14] <IamEthos> which is actually easier than dual booting
[07:15] <IamEthos> so you should be prepped for that
[07:15] <Josh43> no8hl, Then why are you ni the ubuntu channel?
[07:15] <davidmoore83> wd3: vmware with 1 core for XP and 1GB ram allocated ;)
[07:15] <Cubies> Can't I talk general chat here?
[07:15] <oskude> spiderworm, ok that was because i didnt use "make gvidcap" i did just "make"
[07:15] <XVampireX> Ye, why? :P
[07:15] <arrick> nope
[07:15] <wd3> davidmoore83, wow
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Cubies:  #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:15] <niki> Cubies, to an extent...but this is a support channel :)
[07:15] <arrick> this is a support channel
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Cubies: this is a support channel
[07:15] <niki> whew
[07:15] <AskHL> mabus, how about /set user_name newname
[07:15] <IamEthos> no8hl: Ubuntu just rocks differently than Gentoo
[07:15] <fyrebat> spiderworm: thanx for all your help man, I gotta go, but I'll read up on that site link you gave me
[07:15] <arrick> I have a external drive, connected by USB with ntfs partition and when I click on the icon it says I don not have the necessary permissions to view the files on 'usb0', any help
[07:15] <maczek> hello, can anyone help me regarding ati 9550 problem?
[07:16] <wd3> davidmoore83, do u know command in term to automount my cdrw and dvd on startup?
[07:16] <IamEthos> Ubuntu rocks in that friendly "human" easy to install sort of way
[07:16] <ekok> Is there some one, who is good in java?
[07:16] <Josh43> Cubies, It;s better to stay on topic to the channel you are in, otherwise there would be no point in having different channels at all
[07:16] <IamEthos> Gentoo rocks in that do anything you want, 3 months to fully install kind of way
[07:16] <IamEthos> from what I hear
[07:16] <Josh43> lol
[07:16] <AskHL> ekok, if it does not have anything to do with ubuntu I recommend the quakenet #java channel
[07:16] <davidmoore83> wd3: nope but i have seen somthing about it on the forum search that
[07:16] <Josh43> Can anyone tell me where to find the setting so that my files and folders are NOT sorted with caps first?
[07:17] <davidmoore83> IamEthos: you can install in 2hrs
[07:17] <darkriser> wd3: edit /etc/fstab file
[07:17] <IamEthos> davidmoore83: I know, I was exagerating, but I've heard it's a pain in the ass
[07:17] <rohan_bisht> i am having prob. in  multithreading using  python ... error:can't start new thread can anyone tell how to solve this
[07:17] <davidmoore83> IamEthos: not in the new 2006.0 release its a GUI
[07:17] <IamEthos> installing Gentoo is like the Rubiks Cube of the linux world
[07:17] <ekok> thanx AskHL
[07:17] <IamEthos> oh really?
[07:17] <IamEthos> wow
[07:18] <davidmoore83> IamEthos: yup - i am giving it a few months then i will try it
[07:18] <Seveas> davidmoore83, IamEthos: please take off-topic discussions elsewhere
[07:18] <Seveas> this channel is for ubuntu support
[07:18] <arrick> I have a external drive, connected by USB with ntfs partition and when I click on the icon it says I don not have the necessary permissions to view the files on 'usb0', any help
[07:18] <mabus> How do you change your username in irssi? Not your nickname but the username.
[07:18] <IamEthos> Seveas: whoops, sorry, we started sort of on-topic
[07:18] <Profichilla> davidmoore83, but the GUI is kind of broken.
[07:18] <FreshPrince> moin
[07:19] <davidmoore83> Profichilla: worked ok for me on a mates machine - anyway its not support talk so shuhs ;)
[07:19] <davidmoore83> *shush
[07:19] <rohan_bisht> can anyone tell where shud i put queries related to python
[07:20] <roico> how can i use my tv-out with my fx5200 on ubuntu?
[07:20] <Sprawl> ciao a tutti
[07:20] <doubletwist> rohan_bisht in #python perhaps?
[07:20] <athayde> spiderworm, have you find any answer ?
[07:20] <[FR33_B33R] > !beer
[07:20] <mongie> hi fuys
[07:21] <[FR33_B33R] > okay.. anyone here has JACK working?
[07:21] <mongie> guys
[07:21] <roico> !beer
[07:21] <oskude> spiderworm, i gotta get some food :) ill try later more...
[07:21] <[FR33_B33R] > hahha
[07:21] <arrick> I need to get my external usb drive working
[07:21] <[FR33_B33R] > everyone wants beer!
[07:21] <mongie> does anyone here, know how to make a script that makes a wget like 100 times, changing just the filename?
[07:21] <roico> !beer
[07:21] <[FR33_B33R] > alright... getting back to some serious stuff....
[07:21] <arrick> !off Topic
[07:21] <ubotu> arrick: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:22] <roico> how can i use my tv-out with my fx5200 on ubuntu?
[07:22] <mongie> 4 example: wget www.g.com/1.jpg , wget www.g.com/2.jpg , etc
[07:22] <arrick> !external
[07:22] <ubotu> I guess external is For installing to external USB drives, the MAY WORK for you. You have been warned. Read the instructions and requirements carefully.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[07:22] <thoreauputic> mongie: just put the url s in a file and use the -i flage
[07:22] <thoreauputic> *flag
[07:22] <IamEthos> who develops synaptic?
[07:22] <spiderworm> oskude: thats fine dude
[07:22] <mongie> thoreauputic, would you explain it a litte bit more?
[07:22] <[FR33_B33R] > j_ack, can you help me with JACK audio connection kit?
[07:23] <[FR33_B33R] > hahhha
[07:23] <thoreauputic> mongie: it's in the manual - but basically -i tells wget to look inthe file you specify
[07:23] <XVampireX> By the way people, for those of you who want a good website to download linux stuff manually: http://linux.softpedia.com
[07:23] <[FR33_B33R] > !jack
[07:23] <ubotu> [FR33_B33R] : I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:23] <[FR33_B33R] > !asla
[07:23] <ubotu> [FR33_B33R] : Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:23] <[FR33_B33R] > !alsa
[07:23] <ubotu> I guess alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[07:23] <pinkisntwell> I see nvidia has released a new version of their driver, should I install it? it's not in the repos
[07:23] <mongie> thoreauputic, but i mean, i wanna see pics from my friends
[07:24] <mongie> that are stored as follows:  www.g.com/1/1.jpg
[07:24] <rohan_bisht> hey i m new to this so pls help me out n tell me where should i put my python related queries
[07:24] <thoreauputic> mongie: so you just create a file with the URLs and point wget at it
[07:24] <mongie> www.g.com/1/2.jpg
[07:24] <Frogzoo> [FR33_B33R] : please just /msg the bot instead of messing in the chan
[07:24] <roico> how can i use my tv-out with my fx5200 on ubuntu?
[07:24] <[FR33_B33R] > Frogzoo, okay... sorry
[07:24] <mongie> like in c it was: www.g.com/i/j,jpg
[07:24] <mongie> where 1 goes from 1 to 100
[07:24] <mongie> and j, from 1 to 30
[07:24] <fromvega> I'm trying to execute a CLI PHP file, but I'm receiving this message: /usr/bin/php^M: bad interpreter: No shuch file or directory.   I'm using this at the top of the script #!/usr/bin/php
[07:25] <giany911> hey how can i edit a .txt
[07:25] <thoreauputic> [FR33_B33R] : on the verge of botabuse you are...
[07:25] <giany911> i mean whats the console command ?
[07:25] <rodrigo> Frogzoo, try "whereis php"
[07:25] <[FR33_B33R] > thoreauputic, not quite yet! :D
[07:25] <HiTech69> giany911, vim or gedit probably
[07:26] <fromvega> rodrigo: php: /usr/bin/php /usr/bin/X11/php ...
[07:26] <Seveas> !forget sirex
[07:26] <ubotu> i forgot sirex, Seveas
[07:26] <Seveas> !forget sirex2
[07:26] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot sirex2
[07:26] <giany911> hitech69 ty i was writing gpedit :))
[07:26] <Seveas> !forget Karlprof
[07:26] <ubotu> i forgot karlprof, Seveas
[07:26] <Seveas> !forget some files
[07:26] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot some files
[07:26] <rodrigo> Frogzoo, so, delete ^M
[07:26] <rohan_bisht> i m having prob. in python somebody help
[07:27] <Seveas> ^-- that is what happens if you abuse the bot
[07:27] <fromvega> rodrigo: I do not know from where this ^M is comming from
[07:27] <monica82> thoreauputic, u know?
[07:27] <HiTech69> lol
[07:27] <[FR33_B33R] > oh... and i had gotten really close :D
[07:27] <sire1> Seveas: what?
[07:27] <rodrigo> fromvega, from copy&paste
[07:27] <fromvega> tks
[07:27] <Seveas> that.
[07:27] <fromvega> rodrigo: what is this ^M?
[07:27] <monica82> thoreauputic, i just do not want to type all the numbers, i'ma lazy girl ^^
[07:27] <fromvega> rodrigo: what does it mean?
[07:28] <rodrigo> fromvega, its like <enter>
[07:28] <jmartini> fromvega: That is the carriage return
[07:28] <fromvega> rodrigo: where are you from?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> monica82: you can write a bash script to do it for you....
[07:28] <[FR33_B33R] > umm... would JACK work if i was a woman?
[07:28] <jmartini> fromvega: windows uses a CRNL for end of line and unix just uses NL
[07:28] <[FR33_B33R] > :D
[07:28] <rodrigo> fromvega, brasil
[07:28] <monica82> thoreauputic, that's what i want! where can i look to learn how to do it?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> monica82: heh - but I guess you don't want that either :)
[07:28] <fromvega> rodrigo: from where in Brazil?
[07:28] <rodrigo> fromvega, sao paulo
[07:28] <thoreauputic> monica82: bash scripting?
[07:29] <monica82> www.google.com
[07:29] <thoreauputic> monica82: I'll see if I can find a URL
[07:29] <rodrigo> fromvega, u?
[07:29] <fromvega> rodrigo: I'm from Campinas.
[07:30] <rodrigo> fromvega, oh, ok... Im from Bauru... not near.... :p
[07:30] <thoreauputic> monica82:  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[07:30] <monica82> thoreauputic, must not be ery hard, no?
[07:30] <arrick> how do I view an ntfs partition in ubuntu?
[07:30] <fromvega> rodrigo: ;)
[07:30] <rohan_bisht> NEED HELP
[07:30] <rohan_bisht> IN PYTHON
[07:30] <Seveas> !yell
[07:30] <ubotu> caps is, like, FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[07:30] <darkriser> monica82, http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[07:31] <Seveas> !no caps is <reply> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[07:31] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[07:31] <Frogzoo> !tell arrick about ntfs
[07:31] <doubletwist> rohan_bisht As I suggested, you're more likely to get good python help in #python
[07:31] <monica82> 
[07:31] <monica82> 
[07:31] <monica82>             #!/bin/bash
[07:31] <monica82>             STR="Hello World!"
[07:31] <monica82>             echo $STR
[07:31] <monica82> like thart
[07:31] <monica82> lol
[07:31] <arrick> thanks Frogzoo
[07:31] <thoreauputic> monica82: it's as hard as you want to make it :)
[07:31] <rohan_bisht> how to move to #python
[07:31] <sylvain_> #ubuntu-fr
[07:31] <rohan_bisht> doubletwist
[07:31] <thoreauputic> monica82: *cough* don't paste please
[07:31] <doubletwist> rohan_bisht type  /join #python
[07:31] <Seveas> monica82, don't paste in here. ever.
[07:32] <monica82> sorrry
[07:32] <monica82> really sorry guys
[07:32] <thoreauputic> monica82: with a smile :)
[07:32] <Seveas> thoreauputic, you're not ubotu 
[07:32] <jmartini> monica82: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ tp paste
[07:32] <monica82> nah, i won't paste again
[07:32] <monica82> lol
[07:32] <thoreauputic> Seveas: did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:32] <monica82> easier
[07:33] <oskude> spiderworm, i just did "./configure && make clean && make" in the ffmpeg dir and then compiled gvidcap again with "./configure --with-gtk2 --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg && make clean && make gvidcap. compiled and runs, ill test more after i had something to eat, back in 15min or so...
[07:33] <Seveas> thoreauputic, some people juggle gees...
[07:33] <Seveas> geese even
[07:33] <rohan_bisht> nothing is happening doubletwist
[07:33] <doubletwist> haha
[07:33] <doubletwist> rohan_bisht What irc client are you using?
[07:33] <[FR33_B33R] > umm... for the last time... has anyone gotten JACK audio connection kit working?
[07:33] <mike-e> how do i turn off these drum sounds every time i click something in ubuntu
[07:33] <doubletwist> Seveas good episode :)
[07:33] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:34] <rohan_bisht> x chat 2.4.4
[07:34] <monica82> how can i make a variable?
[07:34] <rohan_bisht> doubletwist
[07:34] <monica82> X=1?
[07:34] <monica82> por example
[07:34] <thoreauputic> [FR33_B33R] : evidently not...
[07:34] <[FR33_B33R] > mike-e, system>>preferences>>sounds>>Sound Events
[07:34] <monica82> and invoking it as: $X
[07:34] <monica82> ?
[07:34] <doubletwist> rohan_bisht It's been awhile since I used xchat but I think when you type /join #python it should create a new Tab for that channel.
[07:34] <Seveas> monica82, first you get 2 parent variables and then you call the mate function to make new ones
[07:34] <monica82> Seveas, slooooooowly guy
[07:34] <monica82> lol
[07:35] <jmartini> doubletwist: #python requires an identified nick
[07:35] <thoreauputic> Seveas: but you ge an endless loop that way...
[07:35] <doubletwist> jmartini Oh, didn't realize that.
[07:35] <Seveas> monica82, if you seek bash scripting help: search for the "advanced bash scripting guide" on tldp.org
[07:35] <monica82> i don  want advanced bash scripting
[07:35] <Frogzoo> listvalues
[07:35] <monica82> just want to make a lil script, veeeeeery easy
[07:35] <Frogzoo> oops
[07:35] <thoreauputic> monica82: I gave you a link to a basic one
[07:35] <doubletwist> rohan_bisht Guess you'll have to register your nick with Nickserv
[07:35] <venin> hi ppl
[07:35] <lamego> monica82, what do you want to do ?
[07:36] <venin> anyone got an url or something for a new kernel in .deb? :)
[07:36] <Seveas> monica82, the absg starts with easy scripts ;)
[07:36] <pinkisntwell> I see nvidia has released a new version of their driver, should I install it? it's not in the repos
[07:36] <monica82> that dowloads   "wget  www.g.com/%i/%j.jpg"
[07:36] <monica82> changing i and j
[07:36] <spiderworm> oskude: cool!
[07:37] <rohan_bisht> i dont know wat to do now its not happening
[07:37] <lamego> monica82, $i=something;$j=another;wget "www.g.com$i/$j.jpg"
[07:37] <monica82> conditionals go, with []   instead of brakets?
[07:37] <doubletwist> rohan_bisht You have to register your nick with nickserv [type /msg nickserv help
[07:37] <piernik> each time i start tethereal i  get error "Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted" how to fix it?
[07:37] <monica82> lamego, yeah, but i want to increase i & j
[07:38] <lamego> monica82, get a shell scripting tutorial, not advanced, basic :)
[07:38] <venin> when i used fedora there were lots of precompiled kernels in .rpm .. why isnt there any for ubuntu? im googling but cant find
[07:38] <rohan_bisht> [type /msg nickserv help
[07:38] <thoreauputic> venin: apt-cache search linux-image
[07:38] <monica82> lamego, i'm looking in wich thoreauputic said
[07:39] <monica82> but i do not want to read a whoooole guide
[07:39] <aeolist> take me to your leader!
[07:39] <monica82> for that stupid script
[07:39] <monica82> lol
[07:39] <venin> uhm
[07:39] <venin> thoreauputic, uhm, then what? i have 2.6.12-9
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> egads having to read a whold guide!
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:40] <monica82> lol
[07:40] <monica82> laaaaaaazy girl
[07:40] <thoreauputic> venin: just type that then decide which one you want and install it
[07:40] <venin> thoreauputic, i see nothing newer
[07:40] <monica82> beaaaaaaaautiful day outside
[07:40] <monica82> mix everything...
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> monica82,  wet and cold here.
[07:40] <Eleaf> lol
[07:40] <Eleaf> sureee
[07:40] <venin> thoreauputic, yeh, but there rnt any newer than the kernel i already have
[07:40] <thoreauputic> venin: if you want a later kernel, install dapper
[07:41] <lamego> monica82, i=`expr $i + 1`; echo $i
[07:41] <Frogzoo> venin: 2.6.12-10-686
[07:41] <venin> linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[07:41] <venin> i was thinking of installing a newer kernel since my cpu scaling doesnt work
[07:41] <monica82> lamego, i do not understand really that, that is equal to i=i++?
[07:41] <thoreauputic> venin: ubuntu stays with one version for 6 months except for security updates
[07:41] <OmniColos> is anyone here using video with ekiga?
[07:41] <lamego> monger, thats equal to: i++;
[07:41] <venin> i c
[07:41] <truz24> how can I send the results of "find" to "ls"?
[07:41] <doubletwist> Anyone here have experience using firewire as a network connection? [using eth1394]  in Ubuntu?
[07:41] <nubbe> Does firestarter changes persist, or should it be started at every boot/login?
[07:41] <lamego> ops i mean monica82
[07:42] <rohan_bisht> doubletwist its saying nickname rohan_bisht is already registered
[07:42] <monica82> lamego, cool
[07:42] <darkriser> nubbe, persist
[07:42] <thoreauputic> nubbe: it starts by default in the background
[07:42] <harisund> truz24, what are you trying to do?
[07:42] <lamego> monger, using expr you can do math on the shell
[07:42] <lamego> grr, i mean monica82
[07:42] <harisund> I didn't quite understand your question, truz24
[07:42] <doubletwist> I tried it the other day and I could assign an IP address, but as soon as I tried to ping from the ubuntu box to the debian box [the other system with firewire] , the ubuntu box would hard freeze instantly.
[07:42] <venin> thoreauputic, so dynamic scaling should work on this version of my kernel?
[07:42] <truz24> find files in a directory that have a certain modified time ( modified in 2005 ) and i want to see what files find found
[07:42] <budluva> anyone here ever had a k3b error where it fails to change write speed?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> venin: no idea, sorry
[07:43] <doubletwist> rohan_bisht Then either you've registered before and need to log in, or you will need to pick another nickname.
[07:43] <harisund> You can simply use the find command with the right switches. It automatically lists the files, right?
[07:43] <truz24> I can get the list... but it only shows the file name and not the modified date.
[07:43] <[FR33_B33R] > hid3, where can i edit the alsa configuration file?
[07:43] <monica82> lamego, and how, i use the variable in a commmand? i mean wget www.g.com/VARIABLE.jpg
[07:43] <truz24> Find does not seem to have an option to print the file's modified date.
[07:44] <harisund> truz24 you can do ls -l `find ...`
[07:44] <nubbe> darkriser, ok thanks
[07:44] <doubletwist> truz24 or find ... -exec ls -l () \;
[07:44] <harisund> ah ! -exec.. that is correct, thanks doubletwist
[07:44] <nubbe> thoreauputic, not as far as I can see
[07:44] <truz24> the ls -l `find...` method worked.
[07:45] <truz24> Are there negative reprocussions to that method?
[07:45] <Frogzoo> truz24: man find -> -newer
[07:45] <darkriser> nubbe, firestarter service starts automatically, frontend on demand
[07:45] <harisund> truz24, I am not sure that's the right method (though it did work this time around)
[07:45] <lamego> truz24, its the correct method
[07:45] <harisund> I think it will only work if you are in the same directory as the one you are searching, and files are not within a sub directory
[07:45] <doubletwist> THat eth1394 issue is driving me nuts.
[07:45] <lamego> it will workg with ls no matter the place
[07:46] <harisund> Oh really? thanks for that lamego.
[07:46] <harisund> Will remember it next time (both lamego and truz24)
[07:46] <lamego> np :)
[07:46] <truz24> thx
[07:46] <doubletwist> harisund yeah because find gives the full path so you're list ls'ing the full path
[07:47] <nubbe> darkriser, what's it called?  ps aux | grep fire  gives me only firefox stuff...
[07:47] <Frogzoo> nubbe: sudo iptables -L -v
[07:47] <lamp_> does anyone know what i must change to my /etc/X11/xorg for a lcd monitor,
[07:48] <Frogzoo> !tell lamp_ about xorg
[07:49] <lamp_> i don't get the question in with dpkg
[07:49] <lamego> lamp_, the best configuration depends on your LCD specification
[07:49] <monica82> lamego, ?
[07:49] <lamego> the reconfigure will try to guess the best options
[07:50] <Frogzoo> lamp_: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:50] <lamego> monica82, see the private, this is not a shell scripting channel :P
[07:50] <monica82> lamego, i already told u in the private.. i am waiting...
[07:50] <lamp_> idd i know that one
[07:50] <venin>  * Starting powernowd...  * CPU frequency scaling not supported
[07:50] <venin> any ideas?
[07:50] <lamego> monica82, didn't got any message...
[07:51] <monica82> they are being blocked
[07:51] <LabThug> Ok, I know head does the first part of a file and tail does the last.  Is there anything that can extract the middle of a file (i.e. mid StartLine EndLine FileName)?
[07:51] <monica82> cuz i am not a registered user
[07:51] <lamego> bad luck :P
[07:51] <monica82> ...
[07:51] <lamego> LabThug, you can specify the offsset with tal or head and get the middle
[07:51] <lamego> offset
[07:51] <whaley_work> using apt-get/apt-cache, is there a way I can try to find previous versions of a package?
[07:51] <LabThug> lamego: I know, I'm trying to avoid that (it's slow)
[07:51] <whaley_work> it doesn't seem obvious from the man pages
[07:52] <doubletwist> lamp_ I think you can try xorgconfig [I think? ]  to reconfigure it too, although it doesn't do any autodetection.
[07:52] <lamego> LabThug, using head the is best you can do, there is no way to get a particular line without walking over the file...
[07:52] <arrick> Frogzoo, I followed the link you gave me earlier, and still no access to the usb external drive, it says I don't have permission to view it. Any help?
[07:52] <doubletwist> LabThug You might be able to use sed too.
[07:52] <monica82> thoreauputic, really can't findd where to start...
[07:53] <arrick> Frogzoo, although I now can access the xp partition on the hda now
[07:53] <jmartini> monica82: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10985
[07:53] <nubbe> Frogzoo, that gives me a good long list, but what does it mean?  :)
[07:54] <monica82> jmartini, thx!!!!!!!!!!
[07:54] <jmartini> monica82: I didn't actually test that but its pretty close to what you want
[07:54] <monica82> i am sure it will work
[07:54] <monica82> really thx
[07:54] <monica82> nice guy
[07:55] <DBO> arrick, have you tried chowning the directory where you mounted the thumb drive?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> normally you dont chown the dir you are mounting  filesystems to.
[07:57] <DBO> well he could also use the root account (or sudo) to chown a subdirectory and give world read
[07:57] <DBO> is that prefered?
[07:57] <lamego> mount permisions are not related to file system permitions
[07:57] <BludY> monica?
[07:57] <lamego> mount permitions are usually related to the umask option
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> if its an ext3 or other linux file system he could.. dont think that will work with vfat/ntfs
[07:57] <BludY> monica82??????
[07:57] <BludY> asd
[07:57] <whaley_work> using apt-get/apt-cache, is there a way I can try to find previous versions of a package?
[07:58] <lamego> whaley_work, don't tink so, unless apt keeps some logs of the upgrades
[07:58] <Whatever> hi all
[07:58] <BludY> Do you have game on Linux??? For example Counter Strike Source?
[07:59] <Whatever> I need help with my ati radeon and fglrx drivers
[07:59] <lamego> i have Enemy Territory
[07:59] <whaley_work> lamego: ack! that's not good as I need to install an older version of a particular package
[07:59] <whaley_work> i'd rather not do it manually
[07:59] <Whatever> anyone?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> "Rocks & Diamonds" rulez
[07:59] <Zanga> !skype
[07:59] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[07:59] <whaley_work> Whatever: i'd offer guidance but i'm an nvidia user
[07:59] <whaley_work> soz :(
[08:00] <lamego> Whatever, I have installed flgrx from the ubuntu repos and then just changed the xorg.conf to use it
[08:00] <doubletwist> BludY Enemy Territory, Quake 1,2,3,4, Doom 2 or three, America's Army, a lots more.
[08:00] <michoelc> hi all. im trying to install ubuntu, but as soon as it finishes and is about to start then the screen just gets blank and nothing happens (i left it all night) anyone can help?
[08:00] <lamego> !tell about ati to Whatever
[08:00] <Whatever> I've done lotta things I found in ubuntuforums but none of them worked
[08:00] <venin> anyone know how to enable powernowd to use it with centrino?
[08:01] <lamego> michal`, does it gets blank after the install is over ?
[08:01] <venin> i tried modprobe speedstep-centrino
[08:01] <lamego> during the first boot ?
[08:01] <michoelc> yes at the end
[08:01] <lamego> michoelc, but, after installing ?
[08:01] <michoelc> after the cd comes out then it configures packages
[08:01] <michoelc> after it finishes it gets blank
[08:01] <michal`> lamego: it is working with offb
[08:01] <lamego> michal`, switch to the console with CTRL-ALT-F1
[08:01] <lamego> ops i mean michoelc
[08:02] <michoelc> im getting confused whos who!
[08:02] <lamego> then login with your user
[08:02] <michal`> ups not thischannel lol
[08:02] <lamego> and try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:02] <lamego> michoelc, CTRL-ALT-F1, login, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:02] <michoelc> ill be back in one sec, im gonna try now
[08:02] <Whatever> the problem is when I try to install flgrx in synaptic it says E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu16.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0
[08:03] <Whatever> so it just can't install it
[08:03] <Whatever> what should I do?
[08:04] <venin> i got FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): No such device
[08:04] <venin>  when i tried modprobe speedstep-centrino
[08:04] <venin> any clues ?
[08:04] <elyxi> what is the best apps if i want to connect to a vnc server?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> elyxi,  depends on the specifics of what you are doing.
[08:05] <michoelc> lamego: should i autodetect vidio hardware or not?
[08:05] <Zanga> does anyone know were i can get skype for ubuntu
[08:05] <Zanga> ??
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> elyxi,  kde  and gnome both have theor own variants of vncclients,  or the standard tightvnc,
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[08:05] <ubotu> from memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:05] <zipper|> !xgl
[08:05] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:06] <gean> i have a usb.2.0 disk, that it is always properly munted by ubuntu as /media/usbdisk , but it makes problems sometimes, when files are copied from it... (nothing happens after Mbyte 222666 of something with 666222 MB) What can i do ? is there any chance to format (fsdisk) it ?! How ?!
[08:06] <bengoa> Hi... I'm having problem to get my pcmcia wifi card to work on ubuntu. Can someone help?
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> gean,  you can alwyas fdisk and format it. but that will  erase all the data
[08:07] <joevandyk> How do I get a script to run when my laptop resumes after sleeping?
[08:07] <elyxi> Dr_Willis my problem is that i only can connect to vnc when i turn of all security..
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> elyxi,  vnc does use several ports.
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> elyxi,  so you need forward/unblock the ones ou need.
[08:08] <mds\> what about tunneling in via ssh and then using vnc
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> ssh tunnles is doable also
[08:08] <Frogzoo> gean: run fsck over it while unmounted just to check the file system
[08:09] <alteroo> somehow <Shift>+Backspace restarts my gdm. Where can I go to reconfigure this. Keyboard Shortcuts doesnt seem to help
[08:09] <LabThug> doubletwist: yes, sed '1,Line-1D;Line+1,$D' filename works.  It's still slow, but that's what I get for messing with files that are 122576247 lines long :-)
[08:09] <XVampireX> Time to install dapper drake
[08:10] <doubletwist> LabThug Uh, yeah I can see why it is slow. :)
[08:11] <mds\> thanks to whomever clued me in to less this morning..  less > more
[08:11] <LabThug> doubletwist: The best thing about these big files is that I can use them to convince my boss I need a better computer to handle them ;-)
[08:12] <venin> whats the opposite of modprobe?
[08:12] <ubuntu> Frogzoo, why can I acces my external drive with the liveCD, but not with the local installation, when I performed a default install?
[08:12] <joevandyk> How do I make a script suid?
[08:13] <venin> 90% questions 10% answers
[08:13] <aimaz> +s?
[08:13] <carthik> venin, rmmod
[08:13] <venin> thank u
[08:13] <carthik> ubuntu, head to the wiki and search for USB torubleshooting
[08:13] <carthik> !usb
[08:13] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, carthik
[08:13] <oskude> spiderworm, *burb*, hups sry :) post your errors at pastebin that you get when doing "./configure" in ffmpeg dir, if none, do "make" there and post errors if any
[08:13] <ubuntu> venin, it takes time for some people to find the info you need
[08:13] <vandenoever> hello, i've an application that would be great for ubuntu
[08:13] <venin> :)
[08:13] <vandenoever> how can i propose it?
[08:14] <jbroome> take it to dinner, and get down on one knee
[08:15] <vandenoever> jbroome: do i need rings or gold teeth?
[08:15] <bicky> hello, I had ubuntu and windows on 1 partition, with grub as boot. now I reinstalled windows and it overwrote the mbr, how do I get this back to grub ?.. I'm on the live CD now
[08:15] <vandenoever> seriously: the app uses qt3, is that ok for ubuntu?
[08:15] <arrick> Frogzoo, it was me a minute ago asking  about the drive issue
[08:15] <alteroo> somehow <Shift>+Backspace restarts my gdm. Where can I go to reconfigure this. Keyboard Shortcuts doesnt seem to help
[08:15] <Frogzoo> !tell bicky about fixgrub
[08:15] <arrick> didnt realize i signed in a ubuntu
[08:16] <bicky> !tell bicky about fixgrub
[08:16] <Frogzoo> !tell bicky about grub
[08:16] <aimaz> are there any guides on setting the framebuffer resolution? for use on tty1 -> 6
[08:17] <arrick> bicky, there should be page with the name ubuto on it down by ubuntu, that tells you about the links
[08:17] <ajisdeath> hi
[08:18] <arrick> Why can I access my external hard drive through the LiveCD, but not through local installation?
[08:18] <ajisdeath> dont no
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  mount the thing
[08:18] <joevandyk> How do I make a script suid?
[08:18] <arrick> its mounted
[08:18] <arrick> says I dont have permission to view it
[08:18] <Hexidigital> !ntfs
[08:18] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> joevandyk,  normally you dont.
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  mount it correctly then. :P
[08:18] <arrick> how?
[08:18] <joevandyk> Dr_Willis, yes, but I need to restart wireless after my notebook resumes from sleep
[08:19] <polpak> joevandyk, linux doesn't really support suid scripts
[08:19] <ajisdeath> hurry up then
[08:19] <joevandyk> polpak, oh.
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> notice the  bot url just posted arrick ? :P edit your fstab and make the proper changes
[08:19] <polpak> joevandyk, course you could write a small app in C that just calls your script, and set the binary program suid
[08:20] <arrick> I already did that
[08:20] <joevandyk> polpak, so how do i set the binary program suid?
[08:20] <pulgoki> can anyone tell me in lamens terms what the pam restriction options are for in the stock smb.conf file?
[08:20] <polpak> joevandyk, chmod u+s /path/to/file
[08:20] <ajisdeath> asl every1
[08:21] <vincent_> hi
[08:21] <polpak> ajisdeath, 26/y/anywhere ;p
[08:21] <oskude> spiderworm, ok, seems to work, even record to divx4, but i cant test audio atm..
[08:21] <polpak> whoops, I'm 27 now
[08:22] <niki> what's that command to open your sound configuration thingy?
[08:22] <polpak> niki, which sound configuration thingy?
[08:22] <niki> lol
[08:22] <niki> the one where you can change the output device from alsa
[08:23] <polpak> niki, system->preferences->multimedia systems selector ?
[08:23] <arrick> how do I look at the fstab that is on the LiveCD?
[08:23] <niki> polpak, that's the one, thx :)
[08:23] <venin> isnt there a 2.6.10 kernel in .deb format?
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  boot the live cd and look at /etc/fstab
[08:24] <Frogzoo> niki: system -> prefs -> multimedia selector?
[08:24] <niki> Frogzoo, yup, thx :)
[08:25] <arrick> !pastebin
[08:25] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[08:25] <spiderworm> oskude: sorry was afk.... actually what were the steps you took to get it to work?
[08:25] <niki> after using the multimedia selector, do i have to do anything for the changes to take place (e.g. logoff, restart) or do they go into effect immediately?
[08:25] <polpak> niki, should take effect right away
[08:26] <niki> k
[08:26] <oskude> spiderworm, do "./configure" in the ffmpeg directory (its in the xvidcap dir)
[08:26] <spiderworm> oskude: ok
[08:27] <rebroad> i am so impressed with ubuntu. I just upgraded from Hoary to Breezy with no problems at all, even crossover office still works after the upgrade!
[08:27] <polpak> ubuntu.. it's what's for dinner
[08:27] <spiderworm> oskude: done
[08:27] <budluva> rebroad, soon it'll be breezy to dapper
[08:27] <budluva> :P
[08:27] <alteroo> what;s then name of the key in the Configuration Editor that restarts gdm
[08:27] <alteroo> ?
[08:28] <oskude> spiderworm, then do "make" in there too
[08:28] <fred_> bonsoir
[08:28] <anstei> so, my laptop crashed, now i got some problems with rebooting. besides the desktop everything is fine - the syslog says "gdm[3977] : Error reinitilizing server". where could i find more about that error?
[08:28] <oskude> spiderworm, then do "make" in there too (with "make clean" before that is:)
[08:28] <fred_> hi
[08:28] <rebroad> budluva, well, i remember trying the dist-upgrade when breezy was still in beta and it didn't work so well, so maybe I'll wait until dapper is release, or even some months after that (in case it makes a difference)...
[08:28] <niki> hmmm...in the Multimedia Systems Selector, under Audio, whenever i do a Test sound for Default Source, no sound plays...then when i click ok to end the test, it crashes the multimedia systems selector...on top of that, sound doesn't work for supertux
[08:29] <joevandyk> a
[08:29] <rebroad> it's a shame voipcheap and googletalk don't work on ubuntu.. :(
[08:30] <sfar-ubu> i cant hear no sound what so ever.. what to do? the device is installed.. nothing is muted
[08:30] <mds\> use kopete or gaim..  you can chat with google chat users
[08:30] <spiderworm> oskude: thanks, it's making now
[08:30] <rebroad> oh! cool. thanks mds\
[08:31] <mds\> and any other chat service you'll ever want to use :)
[08:31] <doubletwist> And a bunch you never will :)
[08:31] <mds\> bingo!
[08:31] <rebroad> google's not showing up as an option in gaim....
[08:31] <mds\> it's jabber
[08:31] <lamego> its jabber
[08:31] <mds\> one sec
[08:31] <mds\> I'll try and find a help url
[08:32] <rebroad> ah, thanks mds\
[08:32] <doubletwist> if you google for google chat gaim you'll come up with instructions
[08:32] <mds\> http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[08:32] <spiderworm> oskude: sucess... now configure in the parent directory?
[08:32] <oskude> spiderworm, after that go back to xvidcap dir and do "./configure --with-gtk2 --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg"
[08:33] <oskude> spiderworm, and look that you have lavcodec yes and the other too
[08:33] <crimsun> niki: default _source_ won't work, because it needs to be set to either esd or oss
[08:33] <crimsun> niki: for sdl games, make sure you have libsdl1.2debian-alsa installed
[08:33] <ubuntu> hiii
[08:34] <niki> crimsun, getting it now, thanks :)
[08:34] <niki> crimsun, what's an 'sdl game'?
[08:34] <polpak> crimsun, or libsdl1.2debian-esd works too.. (at least I've had success with it)
[08:35] <crimsun> polpak: -alsa is recommended over -esd
[08:35] <rebroad> mds\, got it working. thanks!
[08:35] <crimsun> niki: any game that uses sdl as its base
[08:35] <polpak> niki, a game that uses the "simple directmedia library"
[08:35] <spiderworm> oskude: working....
[08:35] <jmartini> Bah! Nothing like tearing apart the sound configuration and poking around the kernel modules to fix your sound when the volume slider is set to 0...
[08:35] <niki> crimsun, polpak, how do you know if a game is SDL?
[08:35] <oskude> spiderworm, and then "make clean" and "make gvidcap" if all goes well, you can start it from there with "./src/gvidcap"
[08:35] <venin> isnt there an easier way to get a newer kernel than http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 ?
[08:35] <crimsun> niki: look at its dependencies for libsdl
[08:35] <niki> crimsun, ok thx :)
[08:36] <crimsun> jmartini: which driver?
[08:36] <polpak> niki, or pygame
[08:36] <oskude> spiderworm, and when it runs, preferences is rightclick on filename
[08:36] <marco_> hi
[08:36] <jmartini> crimsun: it was an id: 10T error
[08:36] <marco_> anybody speak spanish??
[08:36] <oskude> spiderworm, my gf want to go rent a movie, ill be back in 15min or so...
[08:36] <_michael_> how can i make a folder on my account shared and then connect into it via IP from a remote computer using Ubuntu on both systems?
[08:36] <crimsun> jmartini: right, but which driver?
[08:36] <Frogzoo> !es
[08:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:37] <spiderworm> oskude: thanks dude!
[08:37] <spiderworm> say hi to the gf!
[08:37] <polpak> _michael_, you either need to use nfs, or samba
[08:37] <jmartini> jmartini: snd-emu10k1 but that doesn't help when you have the speakers turned off
[08:37] <polpak> _michael_, see system->administration->shared folders
[08:37] <crimsun> jmartini: I've already submitted a patch against alsa-utils to alleviate that in Dapper
[08:37] <Jaga> Hello all, I don't want to start an editor war here, but I would like some recommendations... I am looking for an editor for ubuntu that resembles textpad for windows. gnome 2.14's gedit looks like it might be on track but I running breezy...
[08:37] <polpak> Jaga, Jedit
[08:38] <jbroome> Jaga: breezy's gedit doesn't work for you?
[08:38] <jmartini> crimsun: Dapper will tell me when I've turned off my speakers? Cool!
[08:38] <crimsun> jmartini: the problem of course is that the various codecs used with the emu10ks are so disastrously hopeless that one setting doesn't work for all
[08:38] <polpak> Jaga, looks very similiar to textpad
[08:38] <spiderworm> oskude: success!
[08:38] <Frogzoo> Jaga: vi is available on all 'nix platforms, worth learning if only the basics
[08:39] <polpak> jbroome, gedit is more like notepad or wordpad. textpad is a whole different ballpark
[08:39] <polpak> jbroome, though the next version of gedit will be much closer
[08:39] <_michael_> polpak; I added /home/michael to that list with nfs, how do i connect to it
[08:39] <Jaga> polpak, I will have a look for jedit, thanks
[08:39] <gilianima> hi, I have got an two images, one is called foo.PNG and another called bar.TIF, both are "Macintosh BinHex", I can I display them on Linux ?
[08:40] <Zanga> !skype
[08:40] <ubotu> [skype]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:40] <Jaga> Frogzoo, yeah. I know enough vi to a) edit a file in a real emergency, and b) to hate it
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> gilianima,  yes.
[08:40] <Frogzoo> gilianima: open them with gimp
[08:40] <polpak> Jaga, it's pretty easy to install (it has a repo for debian/ubuntu) but you have to have java
[08:40] <polpak> Jaga, specifically you have to have Sun's java
[08:40] <jbroome> polpak: gotcha
[08:40] <doubletwist> Hate vi? I love it :)
[08:40] <gilianima> Frogzoo, Dr_Willis: that would be to easy... it doesn't work of course
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> gilianima,  then either the files are currupted. or are compressed.
[08:41] <Jaga> polpak, heh, weird. I have sun java tho so I will give it a try. tho it might take too much cpu for this slow machine if it's java
[08:41] <Frogzoo> gilianima: not even the png???
[08:41] <polpak> Jaga, it's actually not terrible
[08:41] <doubletwist> Granted its the least intuitive software ever made by man, but I love it anyway. hehe
[08:42] <polpak> Jaga, you can also use the swig theme so it matches your GTK apps (java widgets are so sterile)
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> i find vi very intuitive.. :P once i bothered to rtfm
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:42] <Jaga> polpak, ah thats good.
[08:42] <polpak> Dr_Willis, I think that's the opposite of intuitive
[08:42] <dhawk312> hey does anyone know how to get a microsoft 3 button optic mouse to work properly in drapper?
[08:43] <polpak> Dr_Willis, intuitive would mean you wouldn't have to rtfm to use it ;p
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> polpak,  you are too used to being assumed to be  'moron' by MS then. :P
[08:43] <_michael_> I added /home/michael to that list with nfs, how do i connect to it
[08:43] <spiderworm> soooo we must be getting pretty close to the next ubuntu release?  anyone know of a date?
[08:43] <robinmdh> does ubuntu "dapper" suport a ,multiheaded/multideated configuration?
[08:43] <_michael_> from a remote pc
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> polpak,  nah..  that definitinon imples MS logic.
[08:43] <gilianima> Frogzoo: not even...
[08:43] <spiderworm> well, approximate date
[08:43] <Frogzoo> spiderworm: june 1
[08:43] <doubletwist> dhawk312 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44191&highlight=intellimouse
[08:43] <gilianima> Frogzoo: but the files are readable on mac, so it's not corrupted
[08:43] <spiderworm> Frogzoo: sweet, thanks
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> gilianima,  now are you trasfering the files?
[08:44] <Jaga> lol... it's the unix virus... nobody can mention text editors without a vi argument :)
[08:44] <polpak> Dr_Willis, no.. intuit : know or grasp by intuition or feeling
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> Jaga,  Emacs rules!
[08:44] <doubletwist> dhawk312 although instead of using ~/.imwheelrc I use /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc
[08:44] <polpak> Dr_Willis, not  intuit : to know or grasp by reading the manual
[08:44] <gilianima> Dr_Willis:  transfering the files ? I have it on my desktop...
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> polpak,  with that logic. text editors should emulate typewriters. :P
[08:44] <dhawk312> thanks let me try that
[08:44] <michal`> what's good dvd player under gnome ? (i have movies in iso images)
[08:44] <doubletwist> Dr_Willis Pico forever! [hehe just kidding] 
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> gilianima,  it came from a mac - you just said.
[08:45] <Jaga> Dr_Willis, yeah, I keep thinking about emacs, but last time I tried it wasn't for quite the same reasons as I want now. maybe a xemacs (gemacs??) would do for me now
[08:45] <polpak> Dr_Willis, no.. intuitive text editors should emulate typewriters.. I didn't say that intuitive interfaces were nessicaraly best. I just said that if an interface was intuitive it wouldn't require a manual
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> Jaga,  i can edit so fast in vi - its scary
[08:45] <gilianima> Dr_Willis: yes, it comes from macos 9
[08:45] <fARbROr^KaLL3> hi :) does anyone know any digi-tv card (pcmcia) that works with ubuntu? :)
[08:45] <gilianima> Dr_Willis: but i'm on linux on a pc right now
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> gilianima,  the 'binhex' is a clue.  ya got that from 'file whatever.PNG'  right?
[08:46] <Jaga> Dr_Willis, hmmmmm! I am trying my best not to get into a vi argument here... :)
[08:46] <eizesus> hi all, how do i decompress RAR files?
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> Jaga,  i actually like FTE. and I miss CygnysED on my AMIGA
[08:46] <eizesus> i have ARK installed
[08:46] <doubletwist> eizesus you need unrar installed
[08:46] <rebroad> eizesus, winrar under wine?
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> eizesus,  install Rar or unrar
[08:46] <Jaga> Dr_Willis, FTE?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> winrar doew work under wine.
[08:47] <eizesus> no, not under wine...
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> Jaga,  yea. its a nice alternative editor in many ways
[08:47] <eizesus> from where to ger unrar?
[08:47] <rebroad> winrar works under cedega,
[08:47] <blacking> hello all
[08:47] <eizesus> syneptic?
[08:47] <rebroad> sorry. i meant crossover office
[08:47] <blacking> is there a specific room for Ubuntu ppc?
[08:48] <Jaga> Is there such a thing as gemacs ?
[08:48] <gilianima> Dr_Willis: i produced the file with a software (export to image...), it's well recognized on the mac i used
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> gilianima,  'binhex' is a compressed thing on the mac i thought.
[08:48] <doubletwist> gilianima Is it possible that the software automatically compressed the file [without changing the extension] ?
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> gilianima,   also on apple stuff - each file has 2 'parts' that data part and a meta-data part. perhaps it some how got copied wrongly
[08:49] <Yoric> Dr_Willis, actually, not compressed. It's the mac equivalent to uucode.
[08:49] <robinmdh> does ubuntu(dapper) suport a multiheaded/multideated configuration?
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Yoric,  ok :P
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> robinmdh,  clarify that. :P i think the answer is YES  most disrtos do/can
[08:49] <doubletwist> gilianima I think there's a 'macutils' package that can give you the tools to deal with those binhex files.
[08:49] <doubletwist> At least there is in debian sarge.
[08:50] <curley_sue> !hosts
[08:50] <ubotu> curley_sue: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:50] <robinmdh> Dr_Willis, I'm asking becouse of: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/33369
[08:51] <solid_liquor> where is the file for configuring repositories at again?
[08:51] <gilianima> doubletwist:i tried it already, but unsuccessfully
[08:51] <_michael_> what is the ipconfig equivilant in linux?
[08:51] <solid_liquor> _michael_: ifconfig
[08:51] <_michael_> ty
[08:51] <doubletwist> gilianima What about uudeview?
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> robinmdh,  that site/post  makes no sence. :P
[08:51] <solid_liquor> iotw, how do I enable world?
[08:51] <curley_sue> hi, I have no SUDO. probably accidently distroyed my /etc/hosts . any ideas on how to recover it ?
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> robinmdh,  i can confiugure Ubuntu (or any linux) to use dual monitors
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> robinmdh,  now i dont knwo what 'multiseat' means
[08:52] <arrick> !pastebin
[08:52] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[08:52] <solid_liquor> does anyone know which file in /etc I have to edit to enable world?
[08:52] <solid_liquor> !world
[08:52] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, solid_liquor
[08:52] <solid_liquor> !apt
[08:52] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[08:53] <mrproper> !vpn
[08:53] <ubotu> it has been said that vpn is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[08:53] <doubletwist> robinmdh here's someinfo on a multi-seat system: http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html
[08:53] <Spudchat> hi, whats the file i modify so that i can refer to local machines as their hostnames instead of ips?
[08:53] <solid_liquor> Spudchat: /etc/hosts
[08:53] <Spudchat> thanks
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> - /etc/hosts
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Spurising name eh?
[08:53] <Spudchat> :P
[08:53] <mrproper> how do I set up an VPN?
[08:54] <solid_liquor> Dr_Willis: do you know what file to edit for enabling world?
[08:54] <mds\> saaaaay that multi-head thing is neat
[08:54] <doubletwist> solid_liquor what do you mean by 'enabling world'?
[08:54] <solid_liquor> Dr_Willis: I can't remember the name
[08:54] <curley_sue> HELP  I have no SUDO. I probably accidently distroyed my /etc/hosts . any ideas on how to recover it ?
[08:54] <robinmdh> Dr_Willis, I'll clarify, I'm trieing to run a 4 seated config with 2 nvidia card, currently my monitor clains "input out of range" but i didn't toutch the resolution or the sync rates
[08:54] <Zanga> how can i deleete a file when i don`t have the option delete ??
[08:54] <blacking> i got an yaboot error while install Hoary 5.04..
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> solid_liquor,  - /etc/apt/sources.lst or somthing
[08:54] <robinmdh> *claims
[08:54] <solid_liquor> doubletwist: my sources for apt
[08:54] <lullabud> curley_sue: do you have /etc/sudoers ?
[08:54] <solid_liquor> Dr_Willis: thanks
[08:54] <Profichilla> ALSA complains when starting Guitar Pro with Wine. May someone look at why it does?-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10988
[08:54] <doubletwist> solid_liquor either edit /etc/apt/sources.list or use synaptics.
[08:54] <curley_sue> lullabud, looking
[08:55] <doubletwist> Synaptic rather.
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> robinmdh,  i still have no clue what 'seated' means. :P  I use dual monitors/tv out all the time - with Twinview. and a lot of tweaking.
[08:55] <lullabud> curley_sue: try dpkg-reconfigure sudo
[08:55] <_michael_> I need help with file sharing down to the basics, is anybody willing to help me in pm?
[08:55] <blacking> an apple experts here?
[08:55] <flodine> is there anyone here running torsmo that can help me
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Any good software fore making calendars for printing?
[08:55] <lullabud> blacking: not sure about expert, but i use os x.
[08:55] <doubletwist> Dr_Willis I think he means 4 monitors, 4 mice and 4 keyboards on one box like described at http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html
[08:55] <solid_liquor> oh, I guess I meant universe :D
[08:55] <robinmdh> Dr_Willis, it means having multiple x servers on multiple screens with multiple keyboards/mouses
[08:55] <solid_liquor> !universe
[08:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:56] <curley_sue> lullabud, I dont have /etc/sudoers
[08:56] <curley_sue> lullabud,  the dpkg must b run as root
[08:56] <lullabud> curley_sue: definitely try `dpkg-reconfigure sudo`
[08:56] <robinmdh> Dr_Willis it uses Twinview but as separate screens
[08:56] <lullabud> curley_sue: hmmm... yeah.  haha
[08:56] <meisam> hi guys i have some difficulties on eclipse
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> robinmdh,  ahh.. - I just use cheap 'x terminal' that way :P
[08:56] <robinmdh> Dr_Willis, but it's not working exactly as it should
[08:57] <XVampireX> Hello
[08:57] <XVampireX> I'm back and better than ever :D
[08:57] <curley_sue> lullabud, ok, how is that done? have no root priv (having no sudo...)
[08:57] <Yoric> Is anyone here familiar with unison ?
[08:57] <XVampireX> Am on Dapper Drake
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> robinmdh,  ive seen where ya can have more then 1 X on differnet monitotrs. but never had the need for multi mice/kbrds.. that would be a very cluttered area :P
[08:57] <doubletwist> How well would an x-terminal work over an 11mbit 802.11b network?
[08:57] <arrick> Dr_Willis, can you check out pastebin, find my two last entries, compare them and tell me what to change to get my external drive up?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> XVampireX: use #ubuntu+1 for dapperdrake issues please
[08:57] <lullabud> curley_sue: that's tough.  might have to reboot into single-user mode.
[08:57] <doubletwist> Would that be too slow for general websurfing?
[08:57] <arrick> they bothe have the name Arrick on them, in the last half hour
[08:57] <XVampireX> I got no issues
[08:57] <solid_liquor> anyone know which kernel I need for amd64 smp? (dualcore X2)
[08:57] <curley_sue> lullabud, I'll try, thanx!
[08:58] <XVampireX> This is the general ubuntu chatroom so I'm here ;)
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  i gotta run to work..  - i tend to use the options   'user,users,umask=022' for my ntfs partitions
[08:58] <robinmdh> Dr_Willis, the keyboard are set, it's the multy screen output wich isn't working
[08:58] <niki> how do i close a program that refuses to close?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> good luck.. work time for me.
[08:58] <solid_liquor> the amd64-generic (default kernel) doesn't have SMP support
[08:58] <gilianima> doubletwist: it works... thanks!! ..can you explain why ?
[08:58] <_michael_> fine then... is there any wiki about sharing folders in ubuntu?
[08:58] <meisam> guys i need some help on  :eclipse
[08:59] <solid_liquor> meisam: then why not ask in #eclipse?
[08:59] <doubletwist> gilianima Just the funky way your Mac software saves its files. It doesn't save as a proper png or tiff I guess.
[08:59] <meisam> sure
[08:59] <doubletwist> gilianima There might be an option in the software to make it stop doing that, but I'm not really familiar with anything on macs.
[08:59] <niki> can someone tell me how to end a program that has crashed and will not close by clicking 'close' on the window?
[08:59] <solid_liquor> anyone know which kernel I need for amd64 SMP? (dualcore X2)
[08:59] <lullabud> niki: xkill
[08:59] <doubletwist> Niki xkill
[09:00] <arrick> please help
[09:00] <meisam> solid_liquor: no one is answering friend
[09:00] <wd3> my sound in totem and vlc just stopped, can't get sound for movies, and dvd.
[09:00] <niki> lullabud, doubletwist, ty!
[09:00] <alhambra_> hi, i use ubuntu5.10. my desktop panel's context menu disappeard, now i can't add or delete or move any items on it, who knows what to do with this?
[09:00] <arrick> I have been tryng to get my external drive working through the installed ubuntu, and can't get it up, and I can view it all through liveCD
[09:00] <Frogzoo> gilianima: I guess if uudeview works it, the files must be uu encoded - wierd!
[09:01] <_michael_> how do i connect to a folder being shared with NFS???
[09:01] <doubletwist> Frogzoo No they are encoded with binhex. uudeview works for that too.
[09:01] <Frogzoo> _michael_: you might find setting up samba file sharing simpler
[09:01] <Frogzoo> doubletwist: ah i c
[09:01] <doubletwist> Similar concept though I believe.
[09:01] <Heroin> i have an ubuntu install disk (5.04) can i install it without gnome ?
[09:01] <doubletwist> uudeview deals with uuencode, xxencode, BASE64, quoted printable, and
[09:01] <doubletwist>  BinHex
[09:02] <meisam> guys...i can not use my wireless connection?
[09:02] <Heroin> i got the ubuntu disk from a friend but i want kubuntu
[09:02] <meisam> what should i do?
[09:02] <Frogzoo> Heroin: please do yourself a favour & get a 5.10 cd...
[09:02] <ompaul> Heroin, you can, and then you should upgrade to 5.10 and then install kubuntu
[09:02] <_michael_> Frogzoo; how do i set up samba?
[09:02] <_jason> Heroin: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, in applications > accessories > terminal will give you kubuntu
[09:02] <Frogzoo> !tell _michael_ about samba
[09:02] <arrick> !samba
[09:02] <ubotu> [samba]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:02] <Heroin> ompual.. i can tell it to do a minimal install or something and the apt-get KDE?
[09:03] <meisam> wireless connection
[09:03] <_jason> Heroin: you can do a server install and then do the command I said before
[09:03] <ompaul> Heroin, as the machine boots it pauses at that point choose custom - you will figure it out (I can't remember that it was a year ago :))
[09:03] <Heroin> server install comes with apache and stuff?
[09:03] <ompaul> Heroin, no it does not install apache as default you can however install that with no problem
[09:04] <Heroin> ok.. so server install is more or less a debian-net install?
[09:04] <Profichilla> ALSA complains when starting Guitar Pro with Wine. May someone look at why it does?-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10988
[09:04] <ompaul> yeap
[09:04] <meisam> hey guys....no one is ganna answer me back?
[09:04] <ompaul> Heroin, clue we don't do root passwords here all is done through sudo and works rather well
[09:04] <ompaul> !tell Heroin about root
[09:04] <arrick> meisan: sometimes it takes a minute for researching the dusty bins of the mind to find answers
[09:04] <Heroin> ok i know about sudo :P
[09:05] <ompaul> Heroin, enjoy :)
[09:05] <Heroin> i think i wont :p
[09:05] <arrick> meisam: sometimes it takes a minute for researching the dusty bins of the mind to find answers
[09:05] <Heroin> see problem is debian net install isnt picking up DHCP
[09:05] <_jason> Heroin: you should upgrade the server install to 5.10 and then install kubuntu probably
[09:05] <Heroin> ah k jason
[09:05] <oskude> spiderworm, back, and, does it work ?
[09:05] <Heroin> apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell Heroin about breezy
[09:05] <ompaul> Heroin, with a sudo yeap
[09:06] <arrick> _jason, you good with external usb drives?
[09:06] <deefzi> smoothwall or firestarter? opinions?
[09:06] <doubletwist> Heroin of course you'll need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list first.
[09:06] <moparfan90> how do compile a .java program on ubuntu?
[09:06] <_jason> arrick: not really
[09:06] <arrick> anyone here good with external usb drives?
[09:06] <arrick> ok
[09:06] <curley_sue> lullabud, ok I have /etc/sudoers and still have the same sudo problem. I do belive I destroyed my /etc/hosts...
[09:06] <spiderworm> oskude: yeah, seems to work great!
[09:06] <ompaul> deefzi, what are you defending?
[09:06] <doubletwist> arrick My USB/Firewire drives work fine for me.
[09:06] <Frogzoo> moparfan90: javac
[09:06] <moparfan90> ok
[09:06] <deefzi> ompaul, my computer from evil paladins and dragons.
[09:06] <spiderworm> oskude: i couldnt "make install" unfortunately
[09:06] <doubletwist> arrick They mount and are writable out of the box.
[09:06] <_michael_> how do I connect to a folder with samba, i don't want to mount it permenatly, I can't figure out how to access it
[09:07] <Spudchat> arrick: mine appers on the desktop and it mounts on its own
[09:07] <meisam> arrick and sometimes it takes a sec to answer some people
[09:07] <spiderworm> oskude: you think i can just copy the executable to /usr/bin and have it work there?
[09:07] <oskude> spiderworm, i wouldnt do "make install" from cvs stuff, it works as normal locally...
[09:07] <arrick> doubletwist, it wont let me view them through the installed ubuntu, but it allows it through the LiveCD
[09:07] <meisam> arrick and of course sometimes it takes half second to shut some people up
[09:07] <doubletwist> arrick Do they not automount as soon as you plug them in?
[09:07] <ompaul> deefzi, then you need a tin foil hat, I asked the question for a reason, if you care to answer it, and say it is a desktop not running services then that gets one answer that gets one answer etc
[09:07] <deefzi> ompaul, nah, just a desktop machine. i'm "familiar" with iptables, but i thought i'd install some GUI-based front-end for it (hope they both use iptables) just for the ease
[09:07] <arrick> yeah
[09:07] <nawkn> i like ubuntu a lot
[09:07] <Heroin> ok nice thx guys
[09:08] <Heroin> i g2g
[09:08] <curley_sue> _michael_, using nautilus u can go to location smb:///
[09:08] <foxmate> elo all
[09:08] <deefzi> ompaul, sorry i was talking irl :-)
[09:08] <curley_sue> lullabud, r u with me?
[09:08] <arrick> meisam, sorry
[09:08] <AngryElf> hey all, i created an app launcher on my panel that has a command of "sh script.sh"  but the script doesn't run when i click it, am i missing something?
[09:08] <doubletwist> arrick You might try and make sure that gnome-volume-manager is running [ps auxwww |grep gnome-volume ] 
[09:08] <foxmate> me
[09:08] <RPG_> I made the mistake of installing Windows XP on my dual-boot system after I installed Ubuntu, and the XP bootloader overwrote Ubuntu's bootloader. How can I boot into Ubuntu?
[09:08] <ompaul> deefzi, they do use iptables, youd me mad to do anything else on ubuntu, but if its a desktop then why the firewall nothing exposed
[09:08] <_michael_> curley_sue, i tried but the passwords i know aren't working
[09:08] <meisam> arrick i just asked a simle question im havin`
[09:08] <oskude> spiderworm, btw, for better frame rate, make your screen 800 or 640 and then do fullscreen record
[09:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell RPG_ about grub
[09:08] <meisam> arrick thats all
[09:09] <arrick> ok
[09:09] <RPG_> ty
[09:09] <deefzi> ompaul, you're right, but still. i feel more comfortable with unnecessary ports being closed
[09:09] <spiderworm> oskude: yeah :)
[09:09] <doubletwist> arrick If it isn't running just run it from a termina like:  gnome-volume-manager&
[09:09] <curley_sue> HELP "sudo: unable to lookup EA via gethostbyname()"  (EA is my comp-name) I belive I have corrupted my /etc/hosts. any ideas?
[09:09] <oskude> spiderworm, i did a whole new user for recording, with less stuff running, low screen res and so on...
[09:09] <doubletwist> arrick Then re-plug in the drive.
[09:09] <yohan> i just recompiled the kernel and sound doesnt work, particularly not alsa...is there anyway to reinstall the alsa module?
[09:09] <_jason> curley_sue: paste the first lines of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname please
[09:09] <meisam> _jason hi..back to u jason
[09:09] <doubletwist> hrm
[09:10] <nawkn> who use fluxbox?
[09:10] <_jason> meisam: ?
[09:10] <curley_sue> _michael_,  sorry, dont know more than that
[09:10] <_jason> nawkn: just ask please :)
[09:10] <nawkn> i'm having problem with this gui
[09:10] <arrick> doubletwist, chekc the message I posted you,
[09:10] <arrick> it shows what I saw
[09:10] <doubletwist> arrick I see it...
[09:10] <arrick> ok
[09:10] <arrick> is it on>?
[09:10] <meisam> _jason would u help me to tell me how can i have my wireless connection connected
[09:10] <doubletwist> arrick looks like it is running ok. DUnno what to tell you...
[09:10] <spiderworm> oskude: thanks so much!  this is great!
[09:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell meisam about wireless
[09:11] <curley_sue> _jason, no need for paste in my case:
[09:11] <Yoric> meisam, I have little experience, but what's the problem ?
[09:11] <curley_sue> _jason, ~$ more /etc/hosts
[09:11] <curley_sue> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[09:11] <_jason> meisam: I never set one up, all I can do is refer you to the bot
[09:11] <arrick> doubletwist, it just tells me I dont have permissions when i click on it
[09:11] <oskude> spiderworm, and i allso tested those vnc thingies and istanbul... gvidcap seems the best...
[09:11] <_jason> curley_sue: and what is in /etc/hostname?
[09:11] <curley_sue> _jason, EA (my comp-name)
[09:11] <meisam> Yoric thanks....
[09:11] <arrick> I posted the live fstab and my current fstab to the pastebin under my name, could you see if i need to change something?
[09:11] <meisam> Yoric u know what..
[09:12] <oskude> spiderworm, and the developer is waking up again :) (no hes just busy) (last update on 2006-01-02)
[09:12] <meisam> Yoric when i go to the wireless  environment
[09:12] <curley_sue> _jason, I deleted so lines using Network-admin. I guess played too much with it
[09:12] <_jason> curley_sue: ok you will need to either su to root if you have access to root or boot in recovery mode and insert this line at the beginning of /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost EA
[09:12] <doubletwist> arrick I'd need to look at how mine is set up but that machine is not on at the moment [otherwise I could log in from work and check it out]  Sorry.
[09:12] <spiderworm> oskude: yeah, i had probs with istanbul and vnc2swf gives flash files... why would anyone want a flash movie?  but i digress
[09:12] <meisam> im connected but i can not recieve pages
[09:12] <arrick> ok
[09:12] <_jason> curley_sue: do you know how to edit files in cli?
[09:12] <Yoric> meisam, how do you check that you're connected ?
[09:13] <curley_sue> _jason, ok I already rebooted as root, I'll try that. don't know cli. I use vim.
[09:13] <meisam> i check the status
[09:13] <meisam> Yoric i mean the icon on top
[09:13] <_jason> curley_sue: heh that's what I mean, cli is just command line interface :)
[09:13] <Yoric> meisam, with iwconfig ?
[09:13] <Yoric> ok
[09:13] <meisam> Yoric no
[09:13] <Yoric> meisam, did you do what's necessary for encryption ?
[09:14] <Yoric> (in case your network is encrypted)
[09:14] <oskude> spiderworm, im slowly staritng interested on blender, so if you get any nice tutorials done, say hi at #ubuntu-offtopic, im allmost daily there...
[09:14] <arrick> !pastebin
[09:14] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[09:14] <meisam> Yoric no
[09:14] <ompaul> deefzi, firestarter then
[09:14] <meisam> Yoric whats that?
[09:14] <Yoric> meisam, do you know if your network is encrypted ?
[09:15] <meisam> Yoric aha
[09:15] <ompaul> arrick, who is that for?
[09:15] <meisam> Yoric no no i dun think the problem is about the network
[09:15] <arrick> me
[09:15] <curley_sue> _jason, well, newbie (7 months and still - newbie ;-)
[09:15] <arrick> ompaul, me
[09:15] <Yoric> meisam, have you looked at the instructions on this page
[09:15] <meisam> Yoric i think im havin the problem in IP configuration
[09:15] <Yoric> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:15] <Yoric> ?
[09:15] <lullabud> curley_sue: sorry, was working on something.  you don't have an /etc/hosts file?
[09:15] <spiderworm> oskude: damn straight i've got tutorials done.  google blender 3D noob to pro
[09:16] <curley_sue> _jason, got my sudo bak :)!
[09:16] <monteiro> i've two pc's in my network ,, how do i access to their files with samba ?
[09:16] <_jason> curley_sue: great
[09:16] <doubletwist> arrick what is the url you pasted for your fstab?
[09:16] <arrick> doubletwist, i sent a screen shot to the pastebin with your name on it, its what i get when I try to open the external drive
[09:16] <curley_sue> lullabud, got help from _jason , working on it, thanx!
[09:17] <lullabud> curley_sue: oh, cool.  was it /etc/hosts ?
[09:17] <arrick> the last two were under Arrick
[09:17] <arrick> hang on
[09:17] <oskude> spiderworm, roger
[09:17] <neoxan> re :)
[09:18] <spiderworm> oskude: .... and when you find it, look for my name among the authors
[09:18] <meisam> Yoric no. no, im tryin` to do so.
[09:18] <_michael_> I'm trying to transfer MP3 files to my nomad but gnomad2 crashes when i try to open my folder of MP3s, there's about 1500 songs in it
[09:18] <Yoric> meisam, well, that pages knows *much* more than me :)
[09:18] <curley_sue> lullabud, _jason : ok, the sudo problem is fixed (adding the localhost to /etc/host) but that's the only line I have there. shouldn't there be anything else (it used to be much longer filled with fe00:: ... and so on
[09:18] <arrick> doubletwist, I reposted them for you
[09:18] <arrick> under your name
[09:18] <meisam> Yoric thanks anyway
[09:18] <oskude> spiderworm, nice to meet you :)
[09:18] <solid_liquid> anyone else been able to get their X server to work with a PCI Express ATI chipset on an amd64?
[09:19] <Yoric> Good luck.
[09:19] <klm> what is a three-dimensional hologram called? (as those in Half-Life)
[09:19] <solid_liquid> my X server won't start
[09:19] <_jason> curley_sue: probably some ipv6 stuff?  to tell you the truth I don't know what it does, but I have it in mine if you want me to pastebin it...
[09:19] <arrick> 3d image
[09:19] <doubletwist> arrick Yeah but don't I need the url? I'm not finding any way to search on pastebin [unless I'm just blind] 
[09:19] <hitman> hipanos???
[09:19] <_jason> !es
[09:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:19] <arrick> doubletwist, look to the rigth side of the pastebin for your name
[09:20] <solid_liquid> anyone experienced any ATI problems with PCI Express period?
[09:20] <arrick> !pastebin
[09:20] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[09:20] <curley_sue> _jason, any idea which prog creates it? which should be there?
[09:20] <arrick> ubotu, tell doubletwist about pastebin
[09:20] <doubletwist> Ah duh, I wsas just going to pastebin.com
[09:20] <_jason> curley_sue: I have one line taht reads # (added automatically by netbase upgrade), so maybe a dpkg-reconfigure of netbase will do it, but I am speculating
[09:21] <solid_liquid> anyone here have an ATI video card working?
[09:21] <spiderworm> oskude: you too :-D
[09:21] <doubletwist> arrick You know I don't think I even have entries for my usb drives in fstab at all.
[09:21] <doubletwist> arrick I know I don't for my thumbdrive, and it automounts just fine.
[09:22] <doubletwist> arrick I think you don't need any entries for usb drives in fstab, [and if you've installed a diskmounter utility you don't need that either] 
[09:22] <arrick> ok
[09:22] <oskude> spiderworm, im still on search for a codec that can 2fps video with audio synced, im even thinking on rec/play seperately...
[09:22] <arrick> the usb entry loaded automatically
[09:23] <doubletwist> arrick Are you using breezy or dapper?
[09:23] <arrick> breezy
[09:23] <doubletwist> ok
[09:24] <curley_sue> _jason, u did it again! 'dpkg-reconfigure netbase' (root-priv) and there back! thanx again!
[09:24] <spiderworm> oskude: im not aware of anything.... i'm gonna be using Audacity to record the audio while gvidcap records video, and use Blender to put the two together correctly :D
[09:24] <somthao> Hi, does anyone know why i cant get artwiz font-pack working?
[09:24] <deizi> how do i set screensaver OFF on kubuntu?
[09:24] <moret> hi all!!
[09:24] <doubletwist> arrick Actually if it is automounting, but you just can't access it...
[09:24] <arrick> doubletwist, yeah?
[09:24] <somthao> Hi, does anyone know why i cant get artwiz font-pack working?
[09:24] <arrick> thats what is happening
[09:24] <doubletwist> arrick you could add "uid=arrick,gid=arrick" to the entries in fstab. That will mount it owned by you [but no other users could access] 
[09:24] <somthao> no matter what i try, it fails to work
[09:25] <arrick> where ate int eh fstab?
[09:25] <hitman> hispanos..'''???
[09:25] <oskude> spiderworm, what fps are you gonna use ? (maybe we should go to #ubuntu-offtopic)
[09:25] <moret> hitman: yo mismo
[09:25] <doubletwist> arrick right after the ro bit. You don't need some of that other stuff either. Just use:
[09:25] <spiderworm> oskude: 30 FPS at about 960x600 resolution.... i'm pretty sure this machine can handle it
[09:25] <axisys> hey guys.. my work just got a bizhub konica minolta 250.. where can I get a driver.. the cd comes with xp driver only?
[09:25] <somthao> hello, any help please?
[09:25] <doubletwist> use this:  /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs ro,uid=arrick,gid=arrick 0 0
[09:26] <krietor> hey guys
[09:26] <spiderworm> oskude: i want to make professional videos (yes, large) with all the bells & whistles
[09:26] <patrick52222> Does any one know what norton ghost is, i was wondering if there was one like that for linux, so i can make a backup version with all drivers and formats included
[09:26] <curley_sue> lullabud, _jason last problem for this evening: when I unmount my usb-disk its link-light does not go off. any ideas?
[09:26] <soundray> Looking for ideas: I want to remotely switch on a PC that doesn't support Wake-on-LAN. ???
[09:26] <krietor> could anyone help me out here
[09:26] <hitman> sabes la direccion del servidor ubuntu - es??
[09:26] <somthao> i tried reading up but it wont help much...there's the way to install xfonts-artwiz
[09:26] <somthao> but thats all about there is to it- does it work on ubuntu anyway?
[09:26] <oskude> spiderworm, ah, so not for the internet ?
[09:26] <doubletwist> arrick of course change 'arrick' to whatever username you log in as :)
[09:26] <arrick> its arrick like you though
[09:26] <nismo> How do I get mplayer? Ive tried synaptic but it doesnt appear there
[09:26] <somthao> !xfonts
[09:26] <ubotu> somthao: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:27] <doubletwist> arrick That's the options I always have to use to get my user to be able to access ntfs drives.
[09:27] <krietor> ive installed now ubuntu, and i got 2 Hard drives with NTFS which got all my old data which i dont want to delete
[09:27] <lullabud> curley_sue: i don't know for sure about that... my guess is that when you dismount it linux is leaving the power to the port on.
[09:27] <somthao> !font
[09:27] <ubotu> methinks font is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:27] <krietor> now the problem is
[09:27] <soundray> !info mplayer
[09:27] <lullabud> curley_sue: mine's the same way in linux.
[09:27] <krietor> i cant access to it
[09:27] <nismo> ?
[09:27] <oskude> spiderworm, cause i was testing that a screen video tutorial doesnt need more that 2fps (for video)
[09:27] <soundray> !info mplayer-686
[09:27] <nismo> !info mplayer
[09:27] <nismo> rawr
[09:27] <ubotu> mplayer-686: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[09:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell nismo about mplayer
[09:27] <nismo> thanks
[09:27] <patrick52222> is there a type of norton ghost for linux
[09:27] <curley_sue> lullabud, how can u tell it was umounted correctly?
[09:27] <lullabud> patrick52222: partimage
[09:28] <knanand> I have problem Adding Applications (I installed it just now!)....:(
[09:28] <krietor> i cant acess to my NTFS hard drives
[09:28] <lullabud> curley_sue: `mount` or `tail /var/log/syslog` or `dmesg` ?
[09:28] <krietor> can anyone explain to me please
[09:28] <mattw_> ubuntu
[09:28] <hitman> algun servidor en espaol'''???
[09:28] <_jason> !es
[09:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:28] <krietor> !pt
[09:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:28] <arrick> doubletwist, it didnt change anything
[09:28] <soundray> !tell krietor about ntfs
[09:28] <polpak> !tell krietor about mount
[09:28] <axisys> !printer
[09:28] <ubotu> printer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:29] <polpak> !tell krietor about windowsdrives
[09:29] <spiderworm> oskude: yes for the internet first.... i work for a major CDN :)
[09:29] <soundray> krietor: now you've got stuff to read :)
[09:29] <doubletwist> arrick even after you unmount and remount it?
[09:29] <spiderworm> oskude: also ordered & shipped on disc later
[09:29] <patrick52222> lullabud: what version do i get
[09:29] <duelboot> how do I get all my default fonts back in Ubuntu...I have kubuntu-desktop installed as well...went into KDE, made some changes (to include fonts) and then went back to gnome...fonts changed...went back to KDE and put all fonts to default...went back to gnome, they changed but are not default...any help?
[09:29] <arrick> doubletwist, havent tried that yet, how please
[09:29] <knanand> PLEASE HELP ME I CANNOT ADD APPLICATIONS
[09:29] <blacking> i found support for Ubuntu ppc
[09:30] <oskude> spiderworm, btw, to get better quality videos (and AFAIK more fps) save "video" as seperate images (every frame) and then make the video from them afterwards...
[09:30] <_jason> knanand: your caps lock seems to be broken
[09:30] <nismo> ok when i did the command it gives you "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586" in the terminal, i than get "Pakage mplayer-586 is not available, but is referred to by another pakage. This may mean that the pakage is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from abother source" E: Pakage mplayer-586 has no installation candidate"
[09:30] <lullabud> patrick52222: the newest one...?
[09:30] <doubletwist> arrick run "umount /media/sda1" then I guess unplug it and plug it back in.
[09:30] <arrick> knanand, you using a gui or the terminal
[09:30] <arrick> ok
[09:30] <lullabud> patrick52222: in my experience it's not as nice as ghost.  you can't image an entire disk, just partitions.
[09:30] <knanand> I use GUI
[09:30] <spiderworm> oskude: oh ok, cool!   thanks for the tip
[09:30] <curley_sue> !tell me about paste
[09:30] <nismo> am i missing the universe repositories?
[09:30] <doubletwist> if you want to image an entire disk, just use dd :)
[09:30] <oskude> spiderworm, or in whatever uncompressed format, then you can recode that to what ever quality you need
[09:31] <polpak> nismo, yeah, or multiverse
[09:31] <polpak> nismo, but probably just universe
[09:31] <patrick52222> thats all i want as linux takes a while to get back to the way ya had it
[09:31] <polpak> !tell nismo about repos
[09:31] <nismo> well ive done what it tells me about them
[09:31] <nismo> on synaptic
[09:31] <nismo> but mplayer wont show
[09:31] <somthao> is there anywhere i can download the entire ubuntu wiki?
[09:31] <_jason> nismo: you need multiverse
[09:31] <oskude> spiderworm, i somewhere read that the fastest record was to use that x image format, standard when you start gvidcap, you can read the faqs on xvidcaps site
[09:31] <patrick52222> lullabud: how do i install the "partimage-0.6.4-static.tar.bz2"
[09:31] <krietor> OMG its working
[09:32] <krietor> THX A LOT GUYS
[09:32] <krietor> :D
[09:32] <soundray> Can you recommend a solution for turning on a computer remotely, other than Wake-on-LAN?
[09:32] <polpak> !info  mplayer-586
[09:32] <nismo> how do i do multiverse?
[09:32] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3526 kB, Installed size: 7940 kB
[09:32] <avi> 1
[09:32] <spiderworm> oskude: cool, i'll be sure i check i tout
[09:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell nismo about multiverse
[09:32] <doubletwist> soundray Call someone to push the button? :)
[09:32] <avi> hello
[09:32] <xst> Why is mousepad tapping not enabled for labtops in ubuntu as default? (How do I enable it?)
[09:32] <_jason> nismo: press ctrl+f and search for multiverse on the wiki page, read every sentence carefully
[09:32] <soundray> doubletwist: excellent, I should have thought of that.
[09:32] <ernz> Hello again everyone
[09:32] <polpak> xst, it is on mine.. much to my annoyance
[09:32] <nismo> kj
[09:32] <soundray> doubletwist: problem is the lag, of course...
[09:32] <doubletwist> soundray I'm here to help hehe
[09:33] <lullabud> patrick52222: not sure.
[09:33] <ernz> Another quick question: How can I set Mozilla to play WMV files?
[09:33] <xeonwales> can any1 tell me how to 'clone' my root account?
[09:33] <lullabud> patrick52222: just enable more repositories and install it like a normal app.
[09:33] <knanand> It says Unable to get exclusive lock
[09:33] <polpak> !tell ernz about restricted
[09:33] <knanand> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first
[09:33] <doubletwist> soundray APC makes power-strips that have a modem attached and you can dial in to turn on specific outlets [assuming your machine will auto-start when power is applied] 
[09:33] <doubletwist> soundray Not cheap of course.
[09:33] <polpak> !tell erez you need to follow the wiki and get the mplayer plugin
[09:33] <xeonwales> can any1 tell me how to 'clone' my root account?
[09:33] <polpak> err
[09:33] <doubletwist> arrick Did that work?
[09:33] <polpak> erez,  you need to follow the wiki and get the mplayer plugin
[09:34] <lullabud> xeonwales: clone your root account?
[09:34] <soundray> doubletwist: interesting. That's the APC that makes UPSs, isn't it? I'll look it up.
[09:34] <lullabud> xeonwales: ...are you trying to do something else, and you think cloning your root account is the way to go?
[09:34] <patrick52222> can i get it through synaptic
[09:34] <curley_sue> lullabud, _jason I'll appreciate u taking look at this outputs (after 'umount /media/Flash_disk/) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10997
[09:34] <doubletwist> soundray Yeah that's them
[09:34] <xeonwales> i have a root account that i was using, but have just set-up other users. i want settings / programs to be available to all
[09:35] <ernz> Polpak, I managed to install 'multimedia plugin for Mozilla based on VLC' using synaptic, but how do I set VLC as the default player?
[09:35] <oskude> spiderworm, that xwd format (X11 Window Dump) shold be the fastest to get images from X and i assume that quality is not used with this...
[09:35] <_jason> curley_sue: I looked at it but I don't really know why your light wouldn't turn off.  Does it turn off after a few minutes?  maybe it is finishing writing something
[09:35] <knanand> PLEASE HELP ME!!!
[09:35] <_jason> knanand: drop the caps
[09:35] <doubletwist> soundray Or Sun Netra's serial console works even when the machine is turned off [as long as power is applied of course]  and you can serial console in and turn them on. :)
[09:35] <oskude> spiderworm, neither compression of course... so it may need much hd space :)
[09:36] <xeonwales> i have a root account that i was using, but have just set-up other users. i want settings / programs to be available to all
[09:36] <dydimustk> what would regexp be to exclude a directory in a mv * command
[09:36] <LinuxJones> knanand: what's the problem ?
[09:36] <doubletwist> soundray I'm sure there are OOB admin cards for servers than you can get that would allow you to do that too. Don't know of any brands though.
[09:36] <niki> when installing j2re1.4, should i "Grant the 'stopthread' RunTimePermission"?
[09:37] <knanand> when i try to add applications i get and error that reads It says Unable to get exclusive lock
[09:37] <knanand> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first
[09:37] <ernz> Is there a way of setting default application for a filetype?
[09:37] <_jason> knanand: do you have synaptic open?
[09:37] <erez> polpak: err.. you must wanted to tell it to someone else..
[09:37] <curley_sue> _jason, it's this way for longer than ten min. It is not supposed to be writing anything
[09:37] <_jason> !defaultapp
[09:37] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[09:37] <xeonwales> i have a root account that i was using, but have just set-up other users. i want settings / programs to be available to all
[09:37] <soundray> doubletwist: it must be cheaper than ca. $200 (which is what a decent mainboard with WOL would cost...)
[09:37] <xeonwales> any1 know how?
[09:37] <oskude> spiderworm, btw, blender uses hardware opengl for the gui, right ? hope gvidcap can capture that...
[09:37] <doubletwist> soundray Ah... I think you're screwed then :)
[09:37] <spiderworm> oskude: yeah i figure as much.  i wonder if ther would be a problem writing to a remove machine instead of locally?  this machine's hd is a little small
[09:37] <ernz> Where's nautilis? :)
[09:37] <doubletwist> soundray SOlution: don't turn off the machine. :)
[09:37] <spiderworm> oskude: yeah it does, i think it should work, let me test
[09:38] <_jason> ernz: it's the name of the filebrowser
[09:38] <knanand> wats synaptic. i'm not sure... i just installed this today
[09:38] <gnomefreak> ernz: places>home
[09:38] <_jason> knanand: system > administration > synaptic
[09:38] <ernz> Ya Gnomefreak
[09:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell knanand about synaptic
[09:38] <AngryElf> what command makes cron recheck the crontab?
[09:38] <ernz> Just says 'File Browser'
[09:38] <LinuxJones> knanand: it's the graphical packge update/installer
[09:38] <patrick52222> lullabud: its saying the partion is unknow
[09:38] <ernz> Soz
[09:38] <ernz> It is Nautilis
[09:38] <doubletwist> AngryElf it does it automatically
[09:38] <gnomefreak> ernz: thats nautilus
[09:38] <ernz> Man - I am such noob
[09:38] <oskude> spiderworm, you could do a nfs partition on the remote machine and mount it on the gvidcap machine...
[09:38] <ernz> lol
[09:38] <ernz> ty GnomeFreak
[09:39] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:39] <mdke> i'd like to insert multiple ports in my sshd_config, do I do one line per port number, or comma separated?
[09:39] <lawine> AngryElf: cron does check that automagically, there's no command needed
[09:39] <knanand> that also shows an error.... E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:39] <AngryElf> ok then, where do errors from crontab-run commands end up?
[09:39] <soundray> doubletwist: I considered that. Problem is, it's fairly unstable (running experimental VDR software) and I want it to boot on an as-needed basis to have the best chance of recording the shows I want to watch.
[09:39] <lawine> AngryElf: usually, they are mailed to root
[09:39] <_jason> knanand: close everything, open a terminal and run that command
[09:39] <LinuxJones> knanand: follow those instructions and run the command
[09:39] <spiderworm> oskude: it captures 30 FPS with Blender just fine :D
[09:40] <oskude> spiderworm, nice
[09:40] <Kybishop> I've got a labtech optical usb mouse with two buttons and a scroll wheel (that you can click) when im using the mouse, it randomly jumps to the corners of the screen (about once every 5 minutes or so, sometimes more often)
[09:40] <oskude> spiderworm, btw, audio recording should work too
[09:40] <spiderworm> oskude: oh really?  i didnt know it recorded mike at the same time.  are you sure?
[09:40] <curley_sue> _jason, lullabud got to go. thanx for all the help!
[09:40] <doubletwist> soundray good luck with that...
[09:41] <oskude> spiderworm, look in the preferences, there you can set audio too
[09:41] <spiderworm> omg you are right.  crazy :)
[09:41] <Kyral> meh anyone know how to reset the status bar in Irssi?
[09:41] <spiderworm> WHY is there no ubuntu package of this app????!
[09:41] <ernz> GnomeFreak, I have set VLC as default player, but it still comes up in Mozilla as 'No Picture' where the WMV component is... :(
[09:41] <LinuxJones> spiderworm: what app ?
[09:41] <knanand> says i need superuser privilege... but i have it
[09:41] <polpak> spiderworm, which app?
[09:41] <_jason> knanand: put sudo in fron to of the command
[09:41] <oskude> spiderworm, you can set the audio device from command line (as all other settings too) with "--audio_in"
[09:42] <ernz> I have set VLC as default player, but it still comes up in Mozilla as 'No Picture' where the WMV component is... :(
[09:42] <htrp> when you see somethin like this: load average: 0.04, 0.25, 0.15
[09:42] <knanand> bash: sudu: command not found
[09:42] <oskude> spiderworm, ah, i somehow remembered ther where no device selection in the gui, but seems i forgot wrong
[09:42] <htrp> which one is which?
[09:42] <LinuxJones> ernz: WMV is a piece of crap
[09:42] <htrp> i mean what is 0.04
[09:42] <soundray> doubletwist: I had no idea how cheap Socket A boards have become... I think one of them is going to be the answer.
[09:43] <htrp> and what is 0.25 and 0.15
[09:43] <tarzeau> htrp: 15,5,1, man uptime
[09:43] <tarzeau> htrp: load average
[09:43] <ernz> LinuxJones, I am aware of this....But it doesn't help my problem.
[09:43] <htrp> i know
[09:43] <htrp> what are those three?
[09:43] <patrick52222> is there a type of norton ghost for linux
[09:43] <sfar-ubu> whats the command to kill every process with the name "totem" ?
[09:43] <doubletwist> soundray oh yeah they're cheap now...
[09:43] <ernz> Linux is supposed to be able to support everything (Yes, even crap)
[09:43] <sfar-ubu> or *totem*
[09:43] <LinuxJones> patrick52222: mondo
[09:43] <_jason> sfar-ubu: killall totem
[09:43] <oskude> spiderworm, maybe the developer of x/gvidcap would be inspired if he get an email from ubuntu :)
[09:43] <sfar-ubu> thank you mistar
[09:43] <spiderworm> oskude: heh maybe
[09:44] <lawine> ernz: could be that it's unsupported codec. also mplayer has trouble with certain types of WMV
[09:44] <spiderworm> if i knew how to do it myself, i'd package it right up
[09:44] <knanand> Error again - bash: sudu: command not found
[09:44] <axisys> where can I find a linux driver for konica minolata 250? http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Minolta dont have that
[09:44] <htrp> tarzeau!
[09:44] <ernz> Ahhh
[09:44] <_jason> Karlprof: s u d o
[09:44] <axisys> or should i be able to use anyone?
[09:44] <lawine> knanand: SUDO
[09:44] <_jason> knanand: ^
[09:44] <oskude> spiderworm, but he writes (in forum) hes just too busy to work on gvidcap
[09:44] <ernz> How would I go about installing this..."Mplayer" in Ubuntu?
[09:44] <_jason> Karlprof: apologies :)
[09:44] <Karlprof> _jason?
[09:44] <Karlprof> Oh
[09:44] <Karlprof> K
[09:44] <LinuxJones> patrick52222:  >> http://oldwww.mondorescue.org/index.html
[09:44] <sfar-ubu> _jason, that didnt work for me tho.. even with "sudo killall totem"
[09:45] <lawine> ernz: mplayer is in the Universe or Multiverse repo
[09:45] <axisys> ernz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MPlayerCVS?highlight=%28mplayer%29
[09:45] <_jason> lawine: multiverse
[09:45] <_jason> sfar-ubu: kill -9 it
[09:45] <axisys> ernz: that is what i followed to install
[09:45] <knanand> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of java-gcj-compat:
[09:45] <tarzeau> htrp: man uptime
[09:45] <sfar-ubu> kill -9 <pid>, right?
[09:45] <doubletwist> sfar-ubu also make sure the running process doesn't have a different name like 'totem-bin' or something. run  "ps auxwww |grep totem" to see
[09:46] <arrick> doubletwist, thansk I got it now, I had to reboot
[09:46] <yohan> i just compiled 2.6.16 and alsa doesnt work...it returs alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device....do i need to recompile the kernel or can i add alsa somehow?
[09:46] <doubletwist> arrick Ah... and it works?
[09:46] <arrick> yeah
[09:46] <doubletwist> arrick Sweeeet
[09:46] <protocol1> whats the bare minimum an ubuntu os can run on?
[09:46] <axisys> so can i use another minolta printer driver since they don't have the one i am looking for?
[09:46] <arrick> it rebuilt the fstab after I deleted the usb entry
[09:46] <ernz> Excellent Axisys - I will give it a shot and let you know how I do.
[09:46] <axisys> ernz: np
[09:46] <sfar-ubu> doubletwist, i looked it up without the "www",, what does that do? (btw it was only called totem)
[09:47] <radio> Help
[09:47] <arrick> doubletwist, how do you play .wav files in ubuntu?
[09:47] <sfar-ubu> "root     21130  0.0  1.5  20212  8144 pts/0    T    20:35   0:00 totem
[09:47] <sfar-ubu> " <- shouldnt "sudo killall totem" work for that?
[09:47] <sfar-ubu> ops
[09:47] <doubletwist> sfar-ubu it just forces it to show the entire command and wrap it to the next line if it is too long to fit on the screen.
[09:47] <radio> How can i Install Winamp in .rpm?
[09:47] <tristanmike> !tell arrick about w32codecs
[09:47] <knanand> This is wat i get - dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of java-gcj-compat:
[09:47] <arrick> wma that is
[09:47] <axisys> ernz: if this one `fakeroot debian/rules binary' does not work just skip it..
[09:47] <doubletwist> sfar-ubu without the www it just shows what it can fit on one line.
[09:47] <soundray> protocol1, it'll install on a 486 probably. But if you actually want to do something, you need something beefier. It depends on *what* you want to do, though.
[09:48] <doubletwist> sfar-ubu probably only 1 or 2 w's are needed but I got in the habit of using www. :)
[09:48] <sfar-ubu> =D
[09:48] <radio> How can i Install Winamp in .rpm?
[09:48] <doubletwist> arrick You'll need the w32codecs
[09:48] <yohan> i just compiled 2.6.16 and alsa doesnt work...it returs alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device....do i need to recompile the kernel or can i add alsa somehow? anyone know a guide to alsa?
[09:48] <Kybishop> does anyone know a reasource for correct mouse configurations under xorg.config
[09:48] <radio> Can somone help me?
[09:48] <axisys> radio: do u have the .rpm file?
[09:49] <ernz> Axisys - Where is Sources.list?
[09:49] <protocol1> soundray, installing fluxbox on it for a low-end machine....something around 200mhz
[09:49] <radio> Yeas
[09:49] <soundray> protocol1: I have a 300MHz Celeron machine with 192 MB. It's too slow for gnome, okay for XFCE.
[09:49] <radio> Hang on
[09:49] <duelboot> help please:  when I go to logout, nothing gets highlighted on mouseover and when I click I can't see the button (or any buttons on the choices)...It does let me logout, but I can't see the option checked
[09:49] <MadRush> ernz: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:49] <axisys> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:49] <GNU_Style> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:49] <ernz> Tanx Madrush
[09:49] <protocol1> or 233mhx
[09:49] <GNU_Style> which is better for desktop?
[09:49] <protocol1> 233mhz*
[09:49] <doubletwist> radio You sure its winamp? That's just a windows program. XMMS or beep-media-player are clones.
[09:49] <sfar-ubu> [3] -  Killed  sudo totem
[09:49] <sfar-ubu>  <- might that be why "killall totem" didn't work? because it was called "sudo totem" or something? :)
[09:49] <axisys> radio: just run this
[09:49] <doubletwist> I'm a big fan of XFCE...
[09:49] <doubletwist> I use it even on my beefy machines.
[09:49] <axisys> radio: dpkg -i <rpm file>
[09:50] <radio> :S:S
[09:50] <doubletwist> sfar-ubu yeah
[09:50] <axisys> radio:  scratch that
[09:50] <bimberi> GNU_Style: a matter of opinion, try both and decide for yourself :)
[09:50] <axisys> radio: alien -i <rpm>
[09:50] <radio> I am littelbit Confused this is my first time at Linux
[09:50] <sfar-ubu> doubletwist, so .. why didnt ps aux say that? :)
[09:50] <arrick> what media player do I want in order to play wma files?
[09:50] <axisys> then use the deb pkg that alien is create to install like this dpkg -i <deb pkg>
[09:50] <knanand>  _jason: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of java-gcj-compat
[09:50] <soundray> protocol1, ubuntu is probably not the ideal distribution for that kind of hardware.
[09:50] <doubletwist> sfar-ubu DUnno
[09:51] <knanand> also says : Package libgcj6-common is not installed.
[09:51] <radio> How can i Unzipe .rpm
[09:51] <radio> ?
[09:51] <ernz> Madrush / Axisys - It is saying I am not the owner, so I can't edit the sources.list file - What the hell?
[09:51] <doubletwist> arrick Once you have the w32codecs installed, just about any audio player should work I think.
[09:51] <LinuxJones> radio, we have all been there ;)
[09:51] <arrick> ok thanks
[09:51] <protocol1> k
[09:51] <axisys> doubletwist: hwo do u like xfce?
[09:51] <doubletwist> radio you don't unzip it...
[09:51] <doubletwist> axisys I love XFCE :)
[09:51] <axisys> doubletwist: may be i should give it a shot
[09:51] <radio> Hey Who can help me add me on MSN at daniboy86hotmail.com
[09:51] <LinuxJones> radio, Debian based systems don't use .rpm packages by default what package are you trying to install ?
[09:52] <radio> What then'
[09:52] <radio> '
[09:52] <radio> ?
[09:52] <doubletwist> axisys You can take a look at it at http://www.xfce.org
[09:52] <duelboot> ernz did you sudo?
[09:52] <oskude> spiderworm, btw, here are the latest news about gvidcap, http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1412583&forum_id=342698
[09:52] <knanand> ???
[09:52] <axisys> doubletwist: i know.. just nvr got arnd it
[09:52] <LinuxJones> radio, what app are you trying to install ?
[09:52] <radio> I am trying to Install a Winamp
[09:52] <doubletwist> axisys I customize it a little bit though
[09:52] <spiderworm> oskude: thank you!
[09:52] <ernz> Duelboot?
[09:52] <arrick> doubletwist, is there no audio player for saved music installed by default?
[09:52] <axisys> radio: just do this `alien -i <rpm pkg>'
[09:52] <knanand> help me plzzz
[09:52] <radio> Where?
[09:52] <radio> :S
[09:52] <LinuxJones> radio, have you tried Linux based music players ?
[09:53] <radio> no
[09:53] <Kybishop> is it possible to download sndconfig for ubuntu?
[09:53] <kyncani> radio: yon don't want winamp, you want something like amarok, xmms, gxine, rhythmbox, ...
[09:53] <axisys> do u have the rpm file?
[09:53] <soundray> radio, any reason why you don't want a nice Linux player?
[09:53] <radio> Yeas
[09:53] <duelboot> ernz:  came in late to your discussion...how are you trying to update the list?
[09:53] <Kybishop> or is it a red hat only program
[09:53] <doubletwist> axisys Since XFCE doesn't support icons on the desktop [it will in the future] , I run Nautilus as the desktop [and filemanager]  and make sure that gnome-volume-manager is running in the background to automount usb/cd drives.
[09:53] <ernz> Using a txteditor
[09:53] <axisys> radio: so run this command on your terminal .. alien -i <rpm pkg>
[09:53] <doubletwist> radio from a terminal run "sudo apt-get install xmms" and it will install a clone of winamp.
[09:53] <oskude> spiderworm, and as it looks like to be a gnome program, ubuntu could get interested :) (maybe they can hire him;)
[09:53] <duelboot> ernz did you sudo to the txteditor?
[09:53] <ernz> What does that mean Duelboot?
[09:54] <doubletwist> arrick Um.. I think ubuntu defaults to using Totem. But I don't like it much.
[09:54] <arrick> doubletwist, whats a good one?
[09:54] <ernz> Sudo sources.list?
[09:54] <duelboot> ernz: did you get to it from a terminal window?
[09:54] <ernz> No
[09:54] <ernz> Nautilis
[09:54] <doubletwist> arrick I've been using amarok to play my music [which is all in Flac format] . Otherwise I use xmms or beep-media-player.
[09:54] <duelboot> ernz:  dunno then...sorry
[09:54] <doubletwist> arrick gxine [which I use for video]  also plays audio though.
[09:54] <ernz> k
[09:55] <arrick> all mine is in the windows media player format, wma, cause i just switched over to ubuntu
[09:55] <patrick52222> how do i run mondo
[09:55] <ernz> Duelboot - I am trying to install mplayer or some other media player to play WMV (Shit files) through Mozilla
[09:55] <radio> :S:S
[09:55] <knanand> please help me : i have problem adding apps plz
[09:55] <radio> When shut i run this?
[09:55] <LinuxJones> patrick52222: did you install it from teh universe repo ?
[09:55] <doubletwist> arrick The cool thin about amarok is that it can use several different codec engines [xine, gstreamer etc]  to play the songs.
[09:55] <patrick52222> i got it from synaptics
[09:56] <doubletwist> arrick Did you get the w32codecs? [I think they're in universe or multiverse] 
[09:56] <Snake__> Has anyone gotten ubuntu to run on a Compaq Presario 1900? (It isnt listed on the wiki)
[09:56] <niki> is there another limewire client for linux besides frostwire?  frostwire doesn't seem to want to get along with my computer for some reason...
[09:56] <duelboot> ernz:  you can use synaptic:  search for plugins...and look for the mplayer plugin and install
[09:56] <bimberi> !tell niki about limewire
[09:56] <niki> bimberi, ah, thank you :)
[09:56] <radio> How can i run .rpm?:S:S
[09:56] <arrick> yeah, they're finishing now
[09:56] <ernz> I tried that duelboot
[09:56] <Snake__> My apologized, a Compaq Presario 2100
[09:57] <patrick52222> linuxjones: i got it from synaptic
[09:57] <bimberi> niki: np :)
[09:57] <sfar-ubu> what does this mean when i try to play an mp3 in totem: "totem could not play blabla.mp3. Failed to play: Could not open resource for writing." ?
[09:57] <ernz> Said something about incompatible
[09:57] <LinuxJones> patrick52222: best to read the howto on the mondo website
[09:57] <doubletwist> radio You can't "run" an rpm. It is a package to install software. You need to install it using "alien"
[09:57] <bimberi> !tell radio about alien
[09:57] <duelboot> ernz...hmmmmm
[09:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sfar-ubu about bp3
[09:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sfar-ubu about mp3
[09:57] <doubletwist> sfar-ubu Perhaps you don't have permissions to /dev/dsp?
[09:58] <bimberi> radio: btw alien can be installed from the ubuntu repositories
[09:58] <sfar-ubu> gnomefreak, been there :)
[09:58] <sfar-ubu> doubletwist, so "sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp" might do the trick?
[09:58] <ernz> I was able to install FDD show before using LiveCD, but not using the proper install to the hard disk
[09:58] <soundray> sfar-ubu: it could be a hanging program hogging your sound device. Rebooting often helps.
[09:58] <radio> Where do i go to Install it?
[09:58] <bimberi> !tell rado about install
[09:59] <Ramzies> Help please
[09:59] <soundray> !helpme
[09:59] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> radio: sudo apt-get install alien   but i would see if you can find a .deb instead of an .rpm
[09:59] <oskude> spiderworm, ok, ill go to lurk in #ubuntu-offtopic and watch tv, cu and gl :)
[09:59] <arrick> doubletwist, I have them installed, how do I get a music player?
[09:59] <sfar-ubu> soundray, do you know if its possible to check if something is hogging my sound device?
[10:00] <spiderworm> oskude: thanks for your help, & have fun!
[10:00] <soundray> sfar-ubu: with lsof apparently, but I don't know the syntax
[10:00] <doubletwist> arrick well you could just apt-get install whichever one you like. You might go ahead and try it in totem first though just to see if it works.
[10:01] <sfar-ubu> soundray, thanks ill check it out
[10:01] <Ramzies> sudo /home/endru/hiks/hiks.exe
[10:01] <Ramzies> bash: hiks.exe: command not fond
[10:01] <arrick> ok
[10:01] <Ramzies> Whu?
[10:01] <doubletwist> arrick Or try gxine which I know at least works fine with windows video codecs.
[10:01] <timmy334> how do I change the ubuntu logo on the Applications menu in Gnome?
[10:01] <shadow> Can someone tell me when the fstab bug will be fixed, so i don't keep getting 7 unmountable floppies
[10:01] <doubletwist> arrick or of course you can search for them in Synaptic to install them from the GUI, but I find the CLI is much faster :)
[10:02] <shadow> i tried latest flight fully updated but it stil shows 7 floppies
[10:02] <r0bby_> Ramzies: you DO know that linux doesn;t run windows executables right? well it does but you have to use an emulator such as wine
[10:02] <radio> How can i install .rpm files?
[10:02] <r0bby_> man rpm
[10:02] <soundray> Ramzies: sounds like you are trying to run a Windows or DOS program. Ubuntu runs Linux programs.
[10:02] <doubletwist> radio We've been answering you for 20 minutes. Why do you keep asking the same question?
[10:02] <arrick> doubletwist, totem says there were not codecs installed to handle them
[10:03] <ernz> Why do I keep getting "bash: cvs: command not found
[10:03] <ernz> "
[10:03] <radio> i am confused in linux
[10:03] <r0bby_> doubletwist: try the direct approach: type "man rpm"
[10:03] <doubletwist> arrick try installing gxine [and maybe gstreamer-xine] 
[10:03] <r0bby_> w/o quotyes
[10:03] <LinuxJones> radio, sudo apt-get install alien (enter your user password)
[10:03] <r0bby_> and read it
[10:03] <r0bby_> take notes
[10:03] <Ramzies> soundray The program for Linux!
[10:03] <arrick> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[10:03] <r0bby_> then follow directions
[10:03] <arrick> ok
[10:03] <soundray> Ramzies: if it was, it wouldn't end in .exe
[10:04] <LinuxJones> radio, this probably won't work btw :)
[10:04] <r0bby_> best advice i can give you radio
[10:04] <doubletwist> Radio If you are confused by this, then I think you need to take a step back, and do some reading on the basics of ubuntu [or debian on which it is based]  and linux in general.
[10:04] <arrick> doubletwist, no such package
[10:04] <arrick> you got a link?
[10:04] <shadow> can anyone help me?
[10:04] <doubletwist> For which, gxine or the gstreamer one?
[10:04] <soundray> !helpme
[10:04] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:04] <r0bby_> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:04] <Ramzies> soundray If I press 2 times on the program. All works
[10:04] <r0bby_> search for the packaeg :)
[10:05] <r0bby_> package*
[10:05] <doubletwist> arrick oops I think gstreamer one is like gstreamer0.8-xine [you can do an "apt-cache search gstreamer" ]  to get a list of what's available.
[10:05] <kreegee> hm, what do i need to play shoutcast with rhythmbox ?
[10:05] <kreegee> i don't get it working
[10:05] <arrick> ok
[10:05] <shadow> gstreamer-mad
[10:05] <kreegee> xmms plays fine so far
[10:05] <kreegee> mp3-files play too
[10:05] <DarthShrine> Is there any way to stop text-wrapping in nano
[10:05] <kreegee> well, will try that
[10:05] <LinuxJones> kreegee: probably mp3 playback codecs
[10:05] <kreegee> got them
[10:05] <shadow> gstreamer-mad will allow shoutcast
[10:05] <soundray> Ramzies: and now you want to run it with root permissions?
[10:06] <Ramzies> soundray She needs to be started through root. Whu?
[10:06] <LinuxJones> kreegee: do you know what kind of stream it is (what codec their using )
[10:06] <tristanmike> gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:06] <kreegee> mp3
[10:06] <kreegee> well, it's radioparadise.com
[10:06] <Ramzies> soundray YES
[10:06] <kreegee> they have a variety of codecs
[10:06] <kreegee> mp3/aac/ram/wma
[10:06] <kreegee> i guess mp3 is the easiest on linux
[10:06] <doubletwist> radio: rpm files are made for Redhat [and dirivitives] . They are not made to be used in Ubuntu...
[10:07] <radio> ok
[10:07] <doubletwist> radio: Because of that in order to install it in Ubuntu, you need to convert it to a format that Ubuntu understands
[10:07] <Ramzies> soundray  How to start?
[10:07] <doubletwist> radio: The program that does that is called 'alien'
[10:08] <radio> Is that in the Ubuntu?
[10:08] <soundray> Ramzies: try 'sudo -i ; cd /home/endru/hiks ; ./hiks.exe'
[10:08] <r0bby_> sudo apt-get install alien
[10:08] <kreegee> installed mad (was onyl available for gstreamer0.8) - no change
[10:08] <kreegee> what do i need on dapper?
[10:08] <doubletwist> radio: in order to install alien, you need either use Synaptic [available in the menus somewhere, I forget :) ]  or use a terminal window [like the DOS prompt] 
[10:08] <Ramzies> soundray thanks
[10:08] <r0bby_> somebody should explain that linux doesn't execute windows/dos apps
[10:08] <shadow> buso, asking again, the bug in Dapper, which results in 7 floppies showing, how can i fix it, i removed all extras from fstab and /media...but still nothing changes...i even tried my fsta from Breezy...nothing worked, still show 7 unmountable floppies
[10:08] <MadRush> okay shoot me for newbism but can i install a i386 package on my x86_64 system?
[10:08] <analfabeta_> hi! how can i listen mp3 in kubuntu drapper?
[10:08] <soundray> r0bby_ we're past that stage.
[10:09] <doubletwist> arrick Doh my bad... just install gxine
[10:09] <tristanmike> !dapper
[10:09] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:09] <duelboot> ernz:  go read this   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:09] <doubletwist> radio if you use the terminal, the command to install alien is [without the quotes]  "sudo apt-get install alien"
[10:09] <MisterN> hi
[10:09] <arrick> I tried 'sudo apt-get install gxine' and no such animal
[10:09] <Kyral> Mhe anyone know a good graphing program
[10:09] <analfabeta_> !mp3
[10:09] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:10] <r0bby_> to search a list of packages you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:10] <doubletwist> arrick Hrm... maybe it's just in universe? Can't remember now
[10:10] <Kyral> I really don't wanna use MSOffice
[10:10] <r0bby_> it's really neat :)
[10:10] <arrick> how do I find it?
[10:10] <r0bby_> it'll tell you what repository it's in
[10:10] <doubletwist> arrick I know it work for me though :)
[10:10] <arrick> google?
[10:10] <soundray> Kyral: I've tried a lot of them, stuck with gnumeric in the end.
[10:11] <eggzeck> arrick, apt-cache :)
[10:11] <Heroin> hi
[10:11] <eggzeck> arrick, apt-cache search xine
[10:11] <doubletwist> arrick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gxine&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[10:11] <deizi> anyone? i have some problems with azuerus/kubuntu... when i try to open ports, it says it's in use etc.
[10:11] <Kyral> soundray: given a spreadsheet, can it graph a best-fit line?
[10:12] <JoeMorris> do you u bun tu
[10:12] <talentumprotalen> hello fellow ubuntians
[10:12] <talentumprotalen> i bun too
[10:12] <Heroin> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop, but if i want to upgrade do i chance it to kubuntu-base kubuntu-desktop?
[10:12] <soundray> Kyral: it has a linest function if that's what you mean.
[10:12] <doubletwist> Heroin I think you just need to use kubuntu-desktop
[10:13] <Heroin> ubuntu base is universal?
[10:13] <MadRush> yesh
[10:13] <Kyral> yah
[10:13] <Heroin> ah ok.. thank you
[10:13] <doubletwist> Heroin it is depended on b kubuntu-desktop so it will install automatically.
[10:13] <Kyral> ouch
[10:13] <gnomefreak> wont ubuntu-desktop bring  in ubuntu-base?
[10:13] <Heroin> ubuntu-desktop is gnome which i despise
[10:13] <ubuntu> hello
[10:14] <MadRush> kubuntu-desktop is ... kde
[10:14] <doubletwist> Heroin I use xubuntu-desktop [XFCE]  which I love :)
[10:14] <ubuntu> oh well
[10:14] <gnomefreak> Heroin: ok kubuntu-desktop should bring in kde-base
[10:14] <Kyral> the Desktop packages all depend on Ubuntu-base and -minimal
[10:14] <michoelc> hi all. i was here a few hours ago, i cant get xserver to start after i installed ubuntu. how do i fimnd out what my video card is etc to do the sudo xserver reconfigure. thanks
[10:14] <Cyorxamp> Hi, I want to install my printer... how do I do that?
[10:14] <Cyorxamp> !printer
[10:14] <ubotu> printer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:14] <Cyorxamp> Ah ha!
[10:14] <talentumprotalen> i prefer kde to gnome so i bet ku**** is great? scale of 1 to 10?
[10:15] <eggzeck> I prefer gnome :)
[10:15] <arrick> dou
[10:15] <doubletwist> michoelc Try "lspci" can give you a clue as to what video card is installed. Or dmesg |more
[10:15] <jadams> I prefer gnome
[10:15] <hostello> Hi, how can I get some plug-ins to view mpeg files?
[10:15] <jadams> I didn't like kubuntu in breezy
[10:15] <doubletwist> michoelc Last resort, open the case and look at the video card :)
[10:15] <jadams> haven't tried it in dapper
[10:15] <eggzeck> that's two for gnome :)
[10:15] <MadRush> i only use kde because i sat down one day and had to decide which to remove to free up space
[10:15] <chuckyp> !tell hostello about restricted
[10:15] <arrick> doubletwist, do I want the i386 or the powerpc user version?
[10:15] <MadRush> if your on an intel computer i386
[10:15] <MadRush> if your on a mac powerpc
[10:15] <doubletwist> arrick powerpc will only be if you're on a mac
[10:15] <Eleaf> hi
[10:15] <talentumprotalen> gnome i definitely do not "despise" but i like power over my verbosity
[10:16] <Heroin> i dont know.. i just really dont like using gnome
[10:16] <chuckyp> They're both the same
[10:16] <talentumprotalen> which gnome attempts to snag from me (chuckle)
[10:16] <arrick> ok
[10:16] <doubletwist> arrick But as long as the universe entries in /etc/apt/sources.list are uncommented [and you then run apt-get update]  then apt-get install gxine should work fine.
[10:16] <__filip_> Somebody know how to get utf-8 in gnome-commander?
[10:16] <talentumprotalen> i dont know if id go that far. similiar but not the same
[10:17] <ravioli> hi, xmms does not work on my ubuntu. it says "check that 1. your sound card is configured properly etc."
[10:17] <chuckyp> Its all the same the are becomming closer and closer together.  I prefere gnome just because I like they less bells and whistles look.  Also once you see the speed of 2.14 you will agree.
[10:17] <MadRush> i dont prefer either, i just use kde because i needed to pick one
[10:17] <sfar-ubu> how do i get gdesklets to start automatically when i log in to x?
[10:18] <chuckyp> sfar-ubu, add it to .gnomerc if you are using gnome
[10:18] <soundray> sfar-ubu: System-Preferences-Session
[10:18] <arrick> ok
[10:18] <ravioli> however, sounds work on another account.
[10:18] <ravioli> any ideas, anyone?
[10:18] <arrick> doubletwist, I forgot about that on this install
[10:18] <soundray> ravioli: sudo adduser ravioli audio
[10:18] <chuckyp> sfar-ubu, or soundray's way
[10:18] <doubletwist> ravioli Maybe you need to add the user to audio
[10:18] <doubletwist> the audio group
[10:18] <sfar-ubu> :) thank yous
[10:18] <doubletwist> yeah what soundray said.
[10:19] <michoelc> doubletwist: what it says im pretty sure is what it detected in the reconfigure. but still a blank screen. where else could the problem be? or is it maybe diff and i should try what u say and open the case?
[10:19] <scoopex> how can i play dvds with xine on ubuntu ? it seems that xine doesn`t know how to handle dvds, do i need to install some libraries ?
[10:20] <lullabud> !dvd
[10:20] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:20] <doubletwist> michoelc Check /var/log/Xorg.log.0 [I think that's the filename] . Near the end of that file it might give clues as to why it isn't displaying.
[10:20] <soundray> michoelc: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Towards the end of the file, you may see an error message...
[10:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell scoopex about restricted
[10:21] <soundray> doubletwist: you overtook me in mid-sentence. :)
[10:21] <Cyorxamp> Ok... so my Lexmark I3 is not listed in the list - now what?
[10:21] <doubletwist> hehe
[10:21] <doubletwist> I've been chatting online for 15 years.. I've had a lot of practice.
[10:21] <doubletwist> Lexmark? My condolences.
[10:21] <Heroin> 15years!?
[10:22] <Heroin> so u used talk and stuff?
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> doubletwist - this ones actually rather nice
[10:22] <doubletwist> hehe Well I started on local BBS's.
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> it's -not- a top loader
[10:22] <chs_> irc is ~15 years old
[10:22] <snoopy_> i have a default installation of ubuntu 5.10 breezy and it does not put /home in a seperate partition (correct?) and i was wondering if i could change that now and put it on a separate partition so i dont lose anything when updating etc..
[10:22] <davidmoore83> my cdrom is not being recognised how can i make sure its mounted and recognised?
[10:22] <gustavo__> estoy intentando installar kde
[10:22] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp My problem with them is the highly proprietary nature of Lexmark itself.
[10:22] <arrick> doubletwist, helps if i updat apt-get at the same time right?
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> doubletwist - Ah I see
[10:22] <doubletwist> snoopy_ Yes you can do that.
[10:22] <talentumprotalen> telnet
[10:22] <doubletwist> arrick Yes
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> So much for dapper :S
[10:23] <chuckyp> doubletwist, bbs's rocked I remembered a local one the other day went hunting around for it sadly its long gone.  but I found references to it on the net.  I should write the owner that I want my 5$ lifetime membership fee back.
[10:23] <arrick> doubletwist, o I need to restart apt-get as well after the update?
[10:23] <doubletwist> snoopy_ Well maybe you can do that...
[10:23] <ravioli> soundray: ok now i got some sound.. so the mixer works. still no success with xmms
[10:23] <davidmoore83> FAILED - could not access cdrom:
[10:23] <davidmoore83> Either create a symbolic link /dev/cdrom pointing to your cdrom device or set your cdrom device in the preferences dialog.
[10:23] <Cyorxamp> Think I'm gonna have to go bad to windows folks - I can't abandon my new printer
[10:23] <doubletwist> arrick uh, what do you mean?
[10:23] <michoelc> k checked that log. ends of as follows: mouse configuration sucessfulll. then a bunch of warning about font renderners alllready registered.
[10:23] <Cyorxamp> Software should work for hardware - not other way around
[10:23] <talentumprotalen> Windows! Noooo.
[10:23] <Cyorxamp> Sorry!
[10:23] <Cyorxamp> lol
[10:23] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp I agree. But Lexmark won't let it
[10:23] <talentumprotalen> say it aint so (wink)
[10:23] <soundray> ravioli: configure xmms to use esd sound output. Better yet, use beep-media-player instead :)
[10:23] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp Which is why I hate Lexmark.
[10:23] <chuckyp> talentumprotalen, what do you want to do?
[10:23] <tristanmike> Cyorxamp: how new...? returnable? :P
[10:24] <Cyorxamp> I aint much for them but this model was cheap and it didn't have the quality that most lexmarks did - top loading
[10:24] <Cyorxamp> it's like a set-top box - fits underneath my pc :P
[10:24] <arrick> doubletwist, after the update, is it done or do I somehow have to restart the spt-get program?
[10:24] <Heroin> sorry to ask another qeustion, but when i dist-upgrade it doesnt install a new gnome right?
[10:24] <talentumprotalen> im just goofin around i know well the necessity for microsoft at times.
[10:24] <doubletwist> snoopy_ If you have another HD that you can use, then you can. But just resizing the partitions on a single HD to do that, I think it is possible, but beyond my knowledge.
[10:24] <davidmoore83> FAILED - could not access cdrom:
[10:24] <davidmoore83> Either create a symbolic link /dev/cdrom pointing to your cdrom device or set your cdrom device in the preferences dialog.
[10:24] <tristanmike> Heroin: yes it does, if you're upgrading
[10:24] <doubletwist> arrick No, once the apt-get update is complete, you're ready to go.
[10:24] <arrick> ok
[10:24] <arrick> thanks
[10:24] <arrick> davidmoore83, morning
[10:24] <Heroin> tristanmike does it get gnome if i dont have it installed?
[10:25] <nillax> what linux distro would you guys recommend for a SOHO router/web server/db server?
[10:25] <vladuz976> what's a good cd ripper to mp3 ?
[10:25] <Cyorxamp> Call me stupid but.... Network Driver wrapper - ok plausable (and done).... a graphics card one - veeery difficult.... but surely a windows printer driver wrapper should not be hard?!
[10:25] <davidmoore83> arrick: evening
[10:25] <tristanmike> Heroin: i wouldn't think so
[10:25] <soundray> vladuz976: abcde
[10:25] <Heroin> nillax for my webserver i did a debian net install, and then loaded it with apache and such
[10:25] <tristanmike> Heroin: you mean if you installed Kubuntu and removed Ubuntu ?
[10:25] <Swedish_Chef> argh
[10:25] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp Dunno, I'm not a programmer.
[10:25] <arrick> davidmoore83, I forgot you were north of me not east or west
[10:25] <Swedish_Chef> my scroll wheel has become hypersensitive lately...
[10:25] <Heroin> well i did a server install of ubuntu, iam not installing KDE-desktop, and iam then going to dist upgrade :P
[10:25] <chuckyp> Ubuntu needs a net install
[10:26] <Heroin> not = now*
[10:26] <davidmoore83> you got a solution to my cdrom issue arrick?
[10:26] <nillax> heroin..do you have any thoughs on FreeBSD?
[10:26] <Swedish_Chef> clicking it once when i have something in buffer will paste it 3-4 times instead of just once
[10:26] <arrick> didnt catch it
[10:26] <ravioli> soundray: i have oss driver, esound output , disk writer  and alsa output. esound is the choice of the day?
[10:26] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp I have a very nice Brother HL-1440 laser printer that works GREAT in linux. I think you can get them for < $100 now.
[10:26] <Swedish_Chef> is there any way to configure that?
[10:26] <arrick> whats your issue?
[10:26] <Heroin> chuckyp , Server install is a net install
[10:26] <davidmoore83> arrick: FAILED - could not access cdrom:
[10:26] <davidmoore83> Either create a symbolic link /dev/cdrom pointing to your cdrom device or set your cdrom device in the preferences dialog.
[10:26] <chuckyp> Heroin, it still copies packages from the cd.
[10:26] <Heroin> ah ok :S
[10:26] <arrick> hang on, check you fstab, or heve you mounted it?
[10:26] <nillax> I have a brother HL-1440...I found it on the street...works great
[10:26] <chuckyp> Heroin, i'm talking about a complete net install dl'ng any package needed.
[10:26] <Heroin> then a net install would be usefull
[10:26] <vladuz976> soundray: what?
[10:26] <void^> 24.5 fps in glxgears :(
[10:27] <tristanmike> Heroin: then you should be good to go, I wouldn't think that it would install anything that you don't already have installed unless it's a dependency
[10:27] <chuckyp> Heroin, like the debian netinstall.  Like the 9mb mini-iso
[10:27] <Heroin> chuckyp yes that would be awsome
[10:27] <Cyorxamp> doubletwist - I got this one (new) for 30 including postage off eBay
[10:27] <michoelc> soundray: u got anyother suggestions?
[10:27] <soundray> ravioli: try that. Alternatively alsa, but then you should disable esd in System-Prefs-Sound
[10:27] <soundray> vladuz976: abcde
[10:27] <soundray> !info abcde
[10:27] <ubotu> abcde: (A Better CD Encoder), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.2.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[10:27] <doubletwist> nillax Yeah, I bought mine when they were like $140 new [and even that was CHEAP then] ... I've gotten my money's worth out of it. Had it for like 3 yrs now.
[10:27] <vladuz976> soundray: moron?
[10:28] <nillax> i got this PC i using now from the trash too
[10:28] <soundray> vladuz976: did you or did you not want to know about a program for encoding CDs?
[10:28] <nismo> Im trying to watch a video using firefox, i have the mplayer plugin but i cant seem to view it, any suggestions?
[10:28] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp You might get some clues to using the Lexmark at http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/lex.html
[10:28] <chuckyp> nismo, you need to install the codecs for whatever stream it is
[10:28] <chuckyp> !tell nismo about restricted
[10:28] <vladuz976> soundray: what is abcde supposed to be?
[10:28] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp Looksl ike a few lexmark models have drivers for linux directly from lexmark?
[10:28] <soundray> !info abcde
[10:28] <ubotu> abcde: (A Better CD Encoder), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.2.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[10:28] <Cyorxamp> do they!?
[10:28] <nismo> k ima check em out
[10:29] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp They seem to for a Z604 model anyway
[10:29] <vladuz976> soundray: sorry then
[10:29] <soundray> vladuz976: be a *bit* more careful.
[10:29] <vladuz976> soundray: true
[10:29] <YourNickname> Is anyone here familiar with Evolution that could help me troubleshoot?
[10:30] <soundray> michoelc: sorry what's the latest on your prob?
[10:30] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, Ive installed java sdk 1.5, but netbeans still loads 1.4, any ideas or suggestions?
[10:30] <shu> hello
[10:30] <arrick> davidmoore83, I sent you a pm with some info
[10:30] <chuckyp> !tell YourNickname about anyone
[10:30] <SaLoMoN> re
[10:30] <michoelc> i wrote what the log  says, its still got a blank screem
[10:30] <SaLoMoN> gn8
[10:30] <shu> i want to display the spec of my system
[10:30] <shu> anyone know how
[10:30] <chuckyp> shu, in irc?
[10:31] <Jhair> shu: the spec? what is that.
[10:31] <doubletwist> shu display what about the spec? You can get some info by running "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[10:31] <shu> specification of my computer
[10:31] <chuckyp> shu, where do you want ot display them?
[10:31] <shu> anywhere
[10:31] <shu> i jus want to know how much ghz and ram i have3
[10:32] <arrick> doubletwist, hey i got music, thanks for your help
[10:32] <soundray> michoelc: this is before you get a chance to log in, correct?
[10:32] <doubletwist> shu from a terminal "cat /proc/cpuinfo" will show your cpu. and 'free' will show your ram
[10:32] <doubletwist> arrick Cool. No problem :)
[10:32] <arrick> doubletwist, how do I ad to the library for gxine?
[10:32] <axisys> anyone here used squid.. i am looking for a very very simple config to test
[10:32] <Heroin> axisys i dont use it, but iam wondering what it is :P
[10:33] <chuckyp> shu, you can use hdparm or something for you hardrive specs if you want.
[10:33] <michoelc> i can log into the console but not into xserver
[10:33] <doubletwist> arrick I dunno, I don't use gxine for music. Now that you've tested it and it works though, you can install amarok and it shoudl work [you might have to tell it in settings to use the xine engine] 
[10:33] <axisys> i guess it is kind a offtopic..sorry about that
[10:33] <arrick> ok
[10:33] <Heroin> no problem but what kind of prgm is it?
[10:33] <chuckyp> michoelc, do you get any errors
[10:33] <YourNickname> chuckyp: how about "why is Evolution generating a generic/cryptic error when confronted with a 207 multi-status response containing a 200 OK in XML format from an OWA interface when using the connector?"
[10:33] <shu> thanks
[10:33] <rene> hi ho
[10:33] <axisys> Heroin: squid mainly used as a web rpoxy/caching/filter server
[10:33] <doubletwist> axisys I've used squid in the past [it's been awhile] . Don't think you are gonna find a 'SIMPLE' config :)
[10:33] <axisys> doubletwist: guess not
[10:33] <chuckyp> YourNickname, I don't know perhaps someone else will if you ask the them.
[10:34] <doubletwist> axisys But you might see if there is an example config in /usr/share/docs/squid
[10:34] <help> people how to enable the root on the live cd ??/
[10:34] <michoelc> no errors just a blank screen
[10:34] <rene> can anyone assist??
[10:34] <axisys> doubletwist: thnx
[10:34] <chuckyp> YourNickname, Just direct questions with out a name in the front then if someone knows they will mostlikely answer.
[10:34] <tristanmike> !ask
[10:34] <help> ???
[10:34] <arrick> davidmoore83, did the pm help you out, or did you fall off the map?
[10:34] <YourNickname> why is Evolution generating a generic/cryptic error when confronted with a 207 multi-status response containing a 200 OK in XML format from an OWA interface when using the connector?
[10:34] <help> people how to enable the root on the live cd ??/
[10:34] <help> people how to enable the root on the live cd ??/
[10:35] <tristanmike> !tell help about root
[10:35] <rene> i just installed ubuntu and tried to start an administration task but root pw will not accepted
[10:35] <nismo> chuckyp that didnt seem to help me
[10:35] <doubletwist> rene You can't log in as root. You need to use sudo.
[10:35] <help> !tell help about root
[10:35] <rene> login via command line works fine
[10:35] <help> chears
[10:35] <davidmoore83> arrick:  i have written to you in the PM
[10:35] <arrick> ok
[10:35] <doubletwist> rene if you absolutely insist on needing a root password you can do a "sudo passwd root" from your user account to set a password.
[10:36] <arrick> id didnt come through
[10:36] <helfrez> anyone else disturbed by the radeon x1900 graphics cards from blizzard that are water cooled and draw 150W lol
[10:36] <rene> ok
[10:36] <mariux> "Memory split (3G/1G user/kernel split (for full 1G low memory))" means that i can disable "high memory" on my 1gb ram system, correct?
[10:36] <Heroin> 150W!?
[10:36] <d0uglas> debian rulez bitches
[10:36] <rene> means what?
[10:36] <helfrez> yep
[10:36] <helfrez> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/03/27/review_sapphire_blizzard/
[10:36] <mariux> helfrez: was that me you yesed?
[10:36] <Heroin> well 150 for the card and the water cooling.. or does the water cooler need a powerthing aswell?
[10:37] <Eleaf> meow
[10:37] <JoeMorris> Ehud Olmert!
[10:37] <Seveas> Eleaf, woof
[10:37] <doubletwist> debian does rule! But so does Ubuntu, and slackware, and zenwalk etc... :)
[10:37] <kbrooks> hey Seveas
[10:37] <Eleaf> MEOW
[10:37] <Eleaf> oh I already said that..
[10:37] <Eleaf> lol
[10:37] <YourNickname> does Evolution not deal well with XML HTTP responses?
[10:37] <kbrooks> Seveas: whats new?
[10:37] <helfrez> Heroin, looks like for the whole shabang
[10:37] <rene> ehm where can i do sudo_
[10:37] <nismo> Im trying to watch a video using firefox, i have the mplayer plugin but i cant seem to view it, any suggestions?
[10:37] <Heroin> well i mean a waterpump could use some power
[10:37] <lampshade> Hey, what do I need to be able to do hibernation, etc?  Basically I uninstalled laptop-mode for something, then I reinstalled it, but I did not recover the features
[10:37] <kbrooks> Seveas: some news from easyubuntu for you: we got the documentation in our SVN
[10:38] <Heroin> nismo some already said u need codecs
[10:38] <nismo> Ive done the restricted formats stuff
[10:38] <helfrez> but i can sympathize with them and the other 5800 users
[10:38] <nismo> yea ive done the codecs
[10:38] <nismo> still no dice
[10:38] <Heroin> nismo perhaps its a quicktime or realplayer steam?
[10:38] <helfrez> i have a 5800 Ultra that comes OClocked from the factory
[10:38] <helfrez> and its extremely loud lol
[10:38] <helfrez> but fast
[10:38] <nismo> its a flash player stream i belive
[10:39] <Seveas> kbrooks, "what's new"? check the ubuntu-users list, arnieboy has made a complete fool of himslef
[10:39] <Seveas> oh wait, that's nothing new...
[10:39] <arrick> doubletwist, Hey, I cant add stuff from my external to the library in Amarok?
[10:39] <kbrooks> Seveas, I know.
[10:39] <CryoTox> Can anyone help me with this, I accidently removed the trash icon and the green button that minimizes all windows from my bar at the bottom, any ideas how to get them back?
[10:39] <rene> ok i did a sudo passwd root but now i cannot start networking anymore?
[10:39] <nismo> Im wondering, do any of you guys use firefox???
[10:39] <kbrooks> Seveas, He hasnt yet responded to any of those questions
[10:39] <doubletwist> arrick You should be able to
[10:40] <nismo> For those that do use firefox. are you able to watch videos from youtube or metacafe?
[10:40] <rene> su
[10:40] <kbrooks> Seveas, hwe just throws crap balls at us
[10:40] <arrick> it only sees the root, and desktop
[10:40] <JoeMorris> do you, ubuntu? :P
[10:40] <Seveas> kbrooks, let me repeat: "oh wait, that's nothing new..."
[10:40] <davidmoore83> arrick: you on msn?
[10:40] <kbrooks> Seveas, what's nothing new?
[10:40] <nismo> :(
[10:40] <Seveas> arnieboy waving his bullshit wand
[10:40] <Heroin> lol
[10:40] <CryoTox> Any ideas?
[10:40] <tristanmike> nismo: I can from youtube
[10:41] <kbrooks> Seveas, umm, excuse me for the language, but i think arnieboy is an asshole
[10:41] <arrick> no
[10:41] <davidmoore83> arrick: any messenger progs?
[10:41] <chuckyp> Seveas, have you seen some of the problems with 2.6.15-19-686 kernel?
[10:41] <arrick> im on verizon dsl
[10:41] <Seveas> kbrooks, please watch your language
[10:41] <rene> Sorry asking agein for help but if i now try to start up for example add aplication nothing happens
[10:41] <arrick> yeah
[10:41] <kbrooks> Seveas, he ripped off keyes
[10:41] <arrick> yahoo
[10:41] <doubletwist> arrick It'll be under root. like /media/sda1
[10:41] <nismo> are most of the videos from youtube flash ?
[10:41] <arrick> ok
[10:41] <tristanmike> nismo: no, this one I'm watching now is a video
[10:41] <CryoTox> Also, does anyone know what I need for the command gmake to work?
[10:42] <nismo> what type of video?
[10:42] <tristanmike> nismo: I don't know, it just started playing
[10:42] <chuckyp> CryoTox, what are you trying to do?
[10:42] <Cyorxamp> !deb
[10:42] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[10:42] <rene> sorry cryotox dont know
[10:42] <nismo> well how did u get youtube working
[10:42] <nismo> i cant do it :(
[10:42] <arrick> ok dound it
[10:42] <arrick> found it
[10:42] <nismo> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player, click here to get the latest flash player.
[10:42] <Cyorxamp> CryoTox - like the name :P
[10:42] <nismo> Thats what i get at youtube
[10:42] <tristanmike> nismo: my guess, "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[10:43] <nismo> for any video
[10:43] <nismo> ive done that
[10:43] <tristanmike> nismo: gimme the link
[10:43] <nismo> but no dice
[10:43] <nismo> http://youtube.com/watch?v=PsRkU7FV4aw
[10:43] <CryoTox> chuckyp: I have a source and I need the command gmake, but it says it doens't exist (the scommand) so I was wondering if there was an app i need.
[10:43] <Heroin> nismo restart firefox?
[10:43] <nismo> thats just a random 1
[10:43] <Heroin> or reboot?
[10:43] <chuckyp> nismo, I beleieve youtube uses flash but I may be mistaken
[10:43] <nismo> er reboot?
[10:43] <chuckyp> CryoTox, install build-essential
[10:43] <nismo> youtube does use flash, but tristan is able to watch videos off it
[10:43] <gnomefreak> oh crap i didnt see that before
[10:43] <tristanmike> nismo: that's a video, oddly enough that's the one I was watching :P
[10:43] <rene> bye
[10:43] <rene> quit
[10:43] <nismo> when i go on youtube
[10:44] <nismo> this is the error i get
[10:44] <nismo> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player, click here to get the latest flash player.
[10:44] <tristanmike> nismo: so do you have flash and java installed ?
[10:44] <nismo> yes
[10:44] <tristanmike> how?
[10:44] <CryoTox> chuckyp: "install to few arguments'
[10:44] <tristanmike> ....please don't say automatix
[10:44] <nismo> oddly enough though
[10:44] <Shameejais> Hi
[10:44] <nismo> when i go to about:plugins on firefox
[10:45] <nismo> the only plugin that shows up is the flash one
[10:45] <chuckyp> nismo, I'm able to watch videos off of it I install flash accoriding to the restricted wiki page.
[10:45] <arrick> doubletwist, when I open the sda1 folder there is nothing showing, and its 160 gigs of music
[10:45] <nismo> i did that chucky :(
[10:45] <arrick> why is that?
[10:45] <tristanmike> nismo: so you installed blackdown java? or the one from sun's site ?
[10:45] <chuckyp> CryoTox, sudo apt-get install build-essential   its a package that will install most of the compiliers you need for installing from source.
[10:45] <nismo> er from synaptic
[10:46] <chuckyp> CryoTox, what app are you trying to install it may already be in the sources.
[10:46] <doubletwist> arrick It doesn't show the individual files. You just check the box next to the sda1 and it will automatically load all the music that is in there.
[10:46] <tristanmike> nismo: but using the wiki I assume
[10:46] <CryoTox> thanks, and I'm trying to install Synchronet BBS
[10:46] <nismo> i used the wiki
[10:46] <davidmoore83> my cd drive wont eject now!
[10:46] <nismo> absolutly no help at all lol
[10:47] <CryoTox> bbl
[10:47] <nismo> i did what it said
[10:47] <nismo> i installed the stuff
[10:47] <nismo> etc etc but still cant watch vids
[10:47] <ipfaff> Hey! Has anyone had anyluck with the Lexmark X7170? I just purchased this printer and can not get it to print. I went to System->Admin->Printing.....ubuntu discovered the printer and recommended the appropriate drivers; however, when I try to print nothing happens and I do not recieve error messages? Please Help!!!
[10:47] <chuckyp> CryoTox, maybe try apt-cache search synchronet see if you find anything in the repos or use synaptic to search if not then install build essentials to build it from source.
[10:47] <tristanmike> nismo: do you have the w32codec ?
[10:47] <nismo> yea i got them
[10:47] <nismo> wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:47] <nismo>   sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:47] <chuckyp> nismo, I would just make sure you have java installed according to the page as well.
[10:47] <tristanmike> you are using Breezy ?
[10:48] <nismo> lemme try that chucky
[10:48] <nismo> might as well right :)
[10:48] <arrick> doubletwist, ok, what about if they're in folders in there>?
[10:48] <doubletwist> arrick It will load everything under them. As a matter of fact, if you just checked the box next to the root , it would load every music file on your entire system [might take awhile to scan though :) ] 
[10:48] <arrick> doubletwist, each cd is a folder
[10:48] <ipfaff> Hey! Has anyone had anyluck with the Lexmark X7170? I just purchased this printer and can not get it to print. I went to System->Admin->Printing.....ubuntu discovered the printer and recommended the appropriate drivers; however, when I try to print nothing happens and I do not recieve error messages? Please Help!!!
[10:49] <doubletwist> arrick it doesn't show those CD folders either though?
[10:49] <arrick> doubletwist, or is it taking a while to seach the drive? nope
[10:49] <doubletwist> hmmm
[10:49] <nismo> ....
[10:49] <arrick> but I can click on the desktop and it opens right up
[10:49] <doubletwist> arrick Dunno then. But you can view it via Nautilus [or whatever filemanager] 
[10:49] <doubletwist> Um...
[10:49] <doubletwist> Got me stumped :)
[10:50] <Heroin> tumpty tumpty tump :D KDE is up and running
[10:50] <ipfaff> Hey! Has anyone had anyluck with the Lexmark X7170? I just purchased this printer and can not get it to print. I went to System->Admin->Printing.....ubuntu discovered the printer and recommended the appropriate drivers; however, when I try to print nothing happens and I do not recieve error messages? Please Help!!!
[10:50] <arrick> anybody been following doubletwist and arrick's conversations?
[10:50] <Heroin> sometimes
[10:50] <soundray> ipfaff, can you check that cupsd is running pls
[10:50] <doubletwist> arrick just for grins you can try xmms or beep-media-player [or rhythmbox but I had trouble getting it to work with some codecs like flac] 
[10:51] <arrick> The lexmark x7170 only has a developers distribution available for a driver and it dont work on mine
[10:51] <arrick> ok
[10:51] <nismo> hmm
[10:51] <kbrooks> how doi find the current version of gstreamer installed thru the cli?
[10:51] <nismo> i think its possible that i didnt have java
[10:51] <arrick> ipfaff, did you see my post
[10:51] <chuckyp> kbrooks, dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
[10:51] <arrick> The lexmark x7170 only has a developers distribution available for a driver and it dont work on mine
[10:51] <nismo> on the sun site, the file is 46 mb, on synaptic it was much smaller
[10:51] <ipfaff> really
[10:52] <ipfaff> so no luck then
[10:52] <arrick> nope
[10:52] <nismo> well since its 46 mb, ima get a drink, brb
[10:52] <arrick> not unless you want to develope a driver
[10:52] <ipfaff> last two days of vacation
[10:52] <lampshade> seriously, ANYONE, Hibernation?
[10:52] <ipfaff> probably not
[10:53] <chuckyp> lampshade, hibernation works for me on my laptop.
[10:53] <doubletwist> lampshade I haven't messed with hibernation in linxu yet
[10:53] <boci^>  breezy to drapper
[10:53] <delphiuk> is hibernation supposed to work on dekstops?
[10:53] <doubletwist> arrick Good luck with that. I need to focus and get some work done, so I'll just be lurking for awhile...
[10:53] <boci^> hi
[10:53] <chuckyp> lampshade, but i'm using dapper so i'm not much help to you i'm sure.
[10:53] <boci^> I upgraded breezy to drapper, but it's say QMAIL_DIR is a wrong environment variable
[10:54] <boci^> because I want to use maildir , not the shit mbox
[10:54] <chuckyp> delphiuk, I don't see why it wouldn't let me try it brb.
[10:54] <tristanmike> nismo: if you don't absolutely need the bleeding edge java, I'd stick with the "blackdown" one, it's easier, I've not to experience a problem with it yet
[10:54] <lampshade> well it isn't that it didn't work at all, it was working, then I was reading a forum post, so then I uninstalled it as that post said, or actually I should say I took out laptop-mode and when that package left, I lost hibernation and suspend in one swoop.  Now I got nothing
[10:54] <deejross> hello, I am having a problem getting my jabber server to work...can anyone help me?
[10:54] <concept10> what package will remove all of the afce desktop
[10:54] <nismo> well i have the blackdown 1
[10:54] <soundray> lampshade: reinstall laptop-mode-tools then?
[10:55] <nismo> but apparently it doesnt seem to work
[10:55] <concept10> err.. thats the XFCE desktop
[10:55] <delphiuk> chuckyp: thanks. i should have mentioned that I was playing with dapper
[10:55] <lampshade> soundray, no help :-/
[10:55] <tristanmike> !dapper
[10:55] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:55] <levander> Isn't there a macos channel on freenode?  I just can't remember it's specific name.
[10:55] <soundray> lampshade: do you remember whether you hibernated via ACPI or you suspended via the kernel swsusp stuff?
[10:56] <lampshade> soundray, couldn't tell you, it worked out of the box-- the usual hibernate and suspend on the logout menu.
[10:56] <deejross> hello????
[10:56] <_harm> ah
[10:56] <_harm> can some one tell me howto upgrade from 5.04 to 5.1?
[10:56] <soundray> lampshade: you're so lucky... you should never have messed with it.
[10:56] <nickrud> !upgrade
[10:56] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[10:57] <soundray> lampshade: anyway, have you looked at the acpi stuff in /etc/default/ ?
[10:57] <lampshade> soundray, you are telling me, I had second thoughts about doing it, but the battery life the forum post promised sounded really good so I just went with it and removed laptop-mode and installed laptop-mode-tools like the post said :-/
[10:57] <chuckyp> Nope didn't like that too much
[10:58] <chuckyp> The hibernation that is on my desktop; however, was asking.
[10:58] <CountZ> are the nVidia problems I am having a dapper only issue? I mean, if I download the latest "stable" ubuntu, will my nVidia card work fine?
[10:58] <soundray> lampshade: I see, if that's what you did, you probably just have to edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[10:58] <athcsx> Hi all, I recently upgraded my entire system to dapper, however when I upgrade the kernel-image, when I reboot all I get is a busybox terminal. Any ideas?
[10:58] <soundray> lampshade, and /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[10:58] <CountZ> i'm talking about the binary vs. non-binary driver talks i'm seeing all over google/forums/wikis
[10:59] <tristanmike> !tell athcsx about dapper
[10:59] <deejross> this is the support channel is it not?
[10:59] <chuckyp> athcsx, dapper discussion is #ubuntu+1
[10:59] <tristanmike> athcsx: see you're pm from ubotu for best support with dapper
[10:59] <mikelourenco> i need help on running an .rpm program
[10:59] <athcsx> tristanmike: thanks
[10:59] <mikelourenco> why wont it launch
[10:59] <chuckyp> !tell mikelourenco about alien
[10:59] <CountZ> mikelourenco: use alien
[11:00] <mikelourenco> thanks
[11:00] <greenpenguin13> my friend has a very odd error with his new ubuntu installation
[11:00] <chuckyp> mikelourenco, what app are you trying to install?
[11:00] <tristanmike> mikelourenco: what program ?
[11:00] <deejross> OMFG IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT CAN SPEAK TO ME
[11:00] <mikelourenco> lime wire
[11:00] <lampshade> soundray, hmm  alright, at least that's something I can start toying with, I was running on nothing, lemme mess around with those and see what I can find out
[11:00] <greenpenguin13> apparently it tells him his xserver is not installed
[11:00] <tristanmike> !tell deejross about patience
[11:00] <CountZ> deejross: i'm sure we could all speak to you
[11:00] <chuckyp> deefzi, yes ask a question
[11:00] <tristanmike> !tell mikelourenco about limewire
[11:00] <greenpenguin13> even though the .deb's are installed
[11:00] <chuckyp> deefzi, sry meant deejross
[11:00] <gnomefreak> deejross: lose the caps and ask a question please
[11:00] <deejross> well, ive watched like 4 people come and go with questions and not one person has even responded to me
[11:00] <mikelourenco> can i download alien from ubuntu?
[11:00] <cello_rasp> yep
[11:00] <dyrne> deejross: what was your question
[11:01] <tristanmike> mikelourenco: see you're pm for safer and easier instructions
[11:01] <sfar> deejross, yes this is the support channel
[11:01] <greenpenguin13> sudo apt-get install alien
[11:01] <CountZ> deejross: i must have showed up after your question was asked
[11:01] <deejross> my problem is that I can't get jabber server to work right
[11:01] <lampshade> deejross, Jabber isn't really the rooms deal as much as it might be like a jabber channels deal I would imagine, but if it is an ubuntu question than yeah go for it
[11:01] <soundray> lampshade: for further related config files, look at the output of dpkg -L laptop-mode-tools | grep etc
[11:01] <tristanmike> !patience
[11:01] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[11:01] <mikelourenco> thanks alot
[11:01] <chuckyp> mikelourenco, isn't there a limewire/gnutella client in synaptic
[11:01] <CountZ> deejross: then you need to read the docs and try some more, i am successfuly running a jabber server and am using it right now
[11:01] <deefzi> chuckyp, okay, i'll ask.
[11:01] <deejross> well, I went to the jabber channel, and they told me to ome here
[11:01] <greenpenguin13> gtk-gnutella
[11:01] <cello_rasp> i'm looking for a itunes replacement for breezy that -supports the shuffle- (my emphasis)
[11:01] <deefzi> chuckyp, could jesus microware a burrito so hot, that he himself could not eat it?
[11:01] <tristanmike> punt
[11:01] <mikelourenco> will look
[11:01] <chuckyp> deefzi, sure he could.
[11:02] <deejross> well, i can connect to it fine from the machine it's on, but not from other machines...the firewall is open and the other machines respond with stream errors
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> hey doubletwist
[11:02] <deefzi> chuckyp, okay. what about... could jesus beat dr. phil in melee combat?
[11:02] <tristanmike> chuckyp: he can get bleeding edge easy peasy
[11:02] <greenpenguin13> error about no xserver installed familiar to anyone?
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> I followed those instructions (obviously changing the rpm's to debs)
[11:02] <chuckyp> deefzi, dr. phil is pretty tuff.
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> CUPS looks set up properly with the driver and the usb location
[11:02] <CountZ> deefzi: a better question yet is: what would Roy Boytanno do?
[11:02] <abre> deejross, is it listening on the right interface?
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> But whenever gedit sends (or gthumb) a job... it times out :S
[11:02] <deefzi> chuckyp, what are the odds?
[11:02] <ifr> ANyone know of a way to record streaming video?
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> the CUPS web admin page can see it tho
[11:02] <chuckyp> CountZ, bryan boytanno you mean?
[11:02] <soundray> !offtopic
[11:02] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:03] <deejross> how do i know if it or not...there was not an option...so I would assume it is...apache doesnt have a problem
[11:03] <deefzi> chuckyp, either way, i'll put 50 on phil
[11:03] <chuckyp> deefzi, i'd give dr. phil 3 to 1
[11:03] <ifr> Anyone know of a way to record streaming video UNDER BREEZY??
[11:03] <CountZ> chuckyp: Ah yes, Bryan...!
[11:03] <Cyorxamp> Lo ifr - shoutcast?
[11:03] <ifr> Hey Cyorxamp, thanks!
[11:03] <Cyorxamp> No its not a recommendation!
[11:04] <Cyorxamp> Just asking if the video is being broadcasted using shoutcast
[11:04] <deefzi> chuckyp, phil's gonna be so dead, if jesus is going to do one of his miracles again
[11:04] <tristanmike> please take all Dr. Phil discussion to offtopic
[11:04] <elvyn> ubuntu en es panol
[11:04] <Seveas> !es
[11:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:04] <Seveas> ^-- elvyn
[11:05] <elvyn> Seveas,  Gracias y me puedes ayudar con mi Wireless
[11:05] <lampshade> soundray, You wouldn't happen to know what controls the logout menu and such?  So that the options for hibernating and such are
[11:06] <Seveas> elvyn, yo no hablo espanol, va en #ubuntu-es por favor
[11:06] <nismo> well ive done all those steps
[11:06] <nismo> with java and blah blah blah
[11:06] <nismo> still no luck
[11:06] <chuckyp> Seveas, habla I believe would be more proper
[11:06] <knanand> Please help me i have a major problem! I am not able to add any applications i can see the list > I select pacakges to install > It downloads all > Prepares to install > Then gives an error : Failed to apply all changes see terminal buffer to see what went wrong. I see all pacakges unpacked.. > I get another error window that reads like this " E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgcj6-common_4.0.1-4ubuntu9_all.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package
[11:07] <chuckyp> Seveas, something like no habla espanol, va en #ubuntu-es por favor
[11:07] <tristanmike> nismo: what are you running ? amd64 ? Dapper ?  Something isn't right
[11:07] <Josh43> Can anyone tell me where to find the setting so that my files and folders are NOT sorted with caps first?
[11:07] <Seveas> knanand, try this after closing all package manager: sudo apt-get clean
[11:07] <Seveas> chuckyp, as I said: I don't speak spanish ;)
[11:07] <soundray> lampshade: what I do know is that some of the options there call scripts in /etc/acpi
[11:07] <chuckyp> Seveas, lol true
[11:08] <talldave> hello any one know if i can set mozilla plugins to use realplayer for audio and mplayer for video?
[11:08] <blacknight> lo ompaul
[11:09] <ompaul> evening bk
[11:09] <knanand> Though I got that error i find they are installed is it OK??
[11:09] <abre> talldave, RestrictedFormats on the wiki
[11:09] <lampshade> soundray, the other thing is that now when I try just the command "hibernate" on bash, it replies to me that my kernel does not have support for it?  Is hibernate the command that is used?  Or is that something different?
[11:10] <tristanmike> talldave: you can try a firefox plugin called "mediaplayerconnectivity"
[11:10] <talldave> tristanmike thanks i will try that
[11:11] <soundray> lampshade: I think you can do something like 'echo sleep >/sys/power/state' on the command line, but I'm really not on home ground here.
[11:11] <elvyn> hola quien me puede ayudar con mi Wireless orinoco, por que no tengo mucha ayuda en ubuntu-es
[11:12] <blacknight> elvyn, que le pasa?
[11:12] <lampshade> soundray, fair enough, you are still more help then I've found on google and on the ubuntu forums
[11:12] <grogoreo> hi
[11:12] <grogoreo> I'm using an rsync commad to copy my music from an mp3 player to my computer and vise versa but it seems to only copy from PC to Player:   rsync -v -r --size-only ~/Documents/Multimedia/Music/ /media/IAUDIO/MUSIC     I'm putting this in a script; should I have another copy of this but switch the directories around?
[11:13] <soundray> lampshade, generic advice: look in /usr/share/doc/packagename. Surprising amounts of info can be buried there :)
[11:13] <soundray> lampshade: e.g. /usr/share/doc/laptop-mode-tools
[11:14] <_daniel_> anyone knows if a package of helix-dbus-server exists and under what name ?
[11:14] <theD3viL> anyone have some wdm themes ?
[11:14] <elvyn> blacknight, el led solo esta prendido
[11:14] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[11:14] <apollo2011> I just tried upgrading one of my systems to dapper and I rebooted and X is messed up (no surprise)
[11:14] <elvyn> blacknight, no tengo conexion con mi Access Point
[11:14] <apollo2011> can someone help me fix it?
[11:15] <soundray> apollo2011: go to #ubuntu+1 for addvice about that. Be very precise when you describe the problem.
[11:15] <ntoll> hi, how do I get beagle to work in Ubuntu. I have it installed, the beagled is running but when I type a search term it doesn't find anything (even though I'm searching for stuff I know is there). It kinda looks like it hasn't indexed my home dir... how do I get it to do this?
[11:15] <apollo2011> soundray, ok
[11:15] <elvyn> Creo que es que ubuntu no tiene y/o no entiende
[11:16] <ntoll> For example, I have an OOo file with the word Manifesto in the title. Searching for "Manifesto" should find it right?
[11:16] <arrick> apollo2011, go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[11:17] <soundray> ntoll: if you're searching for filenames, you might as well use locate
[11:17] <tes1> hello
[11:17] <tes1> question: what firewall does Firestarter use? iptables? or is it like zonealarm?
[11:18] <ntoll> soundray, its not the filename. The word "Manifesto" is the on the title page of the doc.
[11:18] <knanand> can i use the data on NTFS partitions? how can i mount them..?
[11:18] <tes1> !ntfs
[11:18] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:18] <void^> tes1: iptables
[11:18] <ntoll> knanand, mount -t ntfs /dev/???? /mnt/??? as read only
[11:18] <lampshade> knanand, you can read them, but writing to them is not so greatly supported as it is mostly rev engineered as I understand it
[11:18] <tes1> @void^ thank you!
[11:18] <arrick> how do I uninstall unwanted media players like xmms?
[11:18] <quellhorst> what faxing service should i use?
[11:19] <tes1> sudo apt-get remove xmms
[11:19] <arrick> thanks
[11:19] <tes1> or via synaptic
[11:19] <quellhorst> i am looking for a free fax service that i can view in linux
[11:19] <soundray> ntoll: apt-cache show beagle doesn't mention OOo support...
[11:19] <alexis_> bonjour, je viens d'arriver sous linux
[11:19] <alexis_> et je souhaiterai connatre un antivirus et un firewall  installer
[11:20] <tristanmike> !fr
[11:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:20] <knanand> writing to NTFS is not so greatly supported means it is not reliable or it is not at all possible...
[11:20] <ntoll> hmmm... but it does support pdf reading too via poppler right?
[11:20] <tristanmike> sil vous plait
[11:20] <gloria> #easyubuntu
[11:20] <ntoll> not finding stuff from pdf's either
[11:20] <chuckyp> quellhorst, did you try searching  synaptic I see a few possibles efax maybe?
[11:21] <LinuxJones> quellhorst: >> http://www.gnomefiles.org/shots/efax.png
[11:21] <bobulator> hey, if im backing up all the user files to do a system reinstall, is there any other files i need to backup to save the users database?
[11:21] <quellhorst> LinuxJones, chuckyp thanks
[11:21] <bobulator> as in, is there anything not stored in the home directory i need to keep?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> knanand: its not safe to write to ntfs but im sure if you dont mind losing everything you can do it. (i wouldnt nor would i ever recommend it)
[11:21] <MisterN> n8
[11:22] <tes1> @bobulator: every data you saved somewhere else and want to keep!
[11:22] <nismo> eeep, firefox keeps shutting down for no apparent reason
[11:22] <bobulator> but i mean, i want to keep the same users and passwords data... are there any other files i need to hang on to?
[11:22] <tu-em> if anyone knows... plz respond : having ubuntu distro (running apache2 & ssh) in a network behind NAT,, on the router apache2 & ssh ports are forwarded to the ubuntu box,, when connected from inet it works sometime, and then just hangs... and not accesible till box restart (physicaly going there),, thought it was the router (levelOne) whole the time.. but it seems not... :\
[11:22] <ic56> Josh43: re: case-insensitive filename sorting.  You have 2 options: (1) write yourself a one-line script like so: ls "0" |sort .  (2) set the internationalization environment variables.  I forget the name of the variable now but it will cause all of unix to obey human-language rules for sorting.
[11:22] <knanand> ok i get you... thanx
[11:22] <arrick> gnomefreak, why isnt it safe to write to NTFS? I do it all the time and the banks partitions are all NTFS, and they run a linux package for their systems
[11:23] <soundray> ntoll: have you seen http://beaglewiki.org/Ubuntu_Installation ?
[11:23] <ic56> Josh43: s/"0"/"$@"/
[11:23] <niomi> hello all, thanks for your time -- i changed every instance to 'breezy' to 'dapper' in sources.lst, and did the apt-get dist upgrade. then i rebooted. it's going into a grub CLI, what do i do now?
[11:23] <arrick> gnomefreak, just wondering
[11:23] <chuckyp> tu-em, which distro are you running ?
[11:23] <ntoll> soundray, nope... looking now... thx
[11:23] <tes1> question: how can i rename my eth0 to eth1 and vice versa?
[11:23] <chuckyp> tu-em, i.e. hoary, breezy, or dapper?
[11:24] <soundray> ntoll: ty for reminding me of beagle - I've been meaning to try it out :)
[11:24] <tu-em> dl-ed it about 2 weeks ago (it was the latest), 5.x
[11:24] <tu-em> cant remember exact
[11:24] <Josh43> ic56; Wow, that's intense for a small change like that.. I will probly change it in internationalization, but where would I put that script if I wanted nautilus and every open file dialog to respect it?
[11:24] <ThomS> join #ubuntu=dev
[11:24] <ntoll> soundray, well I hope it works for you!
[11:24] <tu-em> chuckyp : :S,, sorry, dont know between those 3
[11:24] <nismo> im trying to reinstall firefox, but every time i go to synaptic or the terminal it tells me that i need the cd, I think the problem i have with firefox is that the version from the cd doesnt seem to be working properly
[11:24] <chuckyp> tu-em, hrm... maybe hunt arround int he logs and see whats going on in /var/log  when it start denying network connections thats wierd.  Is the box physically locked when you go to locally restart it?
[11:24] <nismo> is there a way were i can completly remve any trace of firefox
[11:24] <krietor> hi guys
[11:25] <gnomefreak> iirc arrick its a microsoft securtiy concern for ntfs writing
[11:25] <nismo> and that reinstall it using terminal or synaptic (without it asking me for a cd)
[11:25] <arrick> ok
[11:25] <monteiro_> where can i change the refresh of my monitor , it's 60hertz and i wanted to make it 70, anyone knows ?
[11:25] <tu-em> chuckyp : no, thats antoher thing i forgot, all works & apache and ssh are available within the network
[11:25] <chuckyp> nismo, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines that are referencing the cd.
[11:25] <soundray> ntoll: oh, you need extended attributes support. See /usr/share/doc/beagle/README.debian
[11:25] <chuckyp> nismo, then sudo apt-get update
[11:25] <nismo> ...
[11:25] <Jhair> nismo: sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox
[11:25] <arrick> How do I play .wma on Amorak?
[11:25] <dyrne> nismo: comment out cd entery at top of /etc/apt/sources.list. as for firefox see wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <chuckyp> tu-em, that has to be router based then.  Thats just goofy.
[11:25] <ntoll> soundray, just found that too
[11:26] <krietor> hey guys i got a question
[11:26] <redguy> krietor: shoot
[11:26] <chuckyp> !tell arrick about restricted
[11:26] <gnomefreak> !wma
[11:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:26] <krietor> ive downloaded MPlayer-1.0pre7try2, and i wanted to install that
[11:26] <krietor> how do it do it
[11:26] <krietor> omg im  such a n00b
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell krietor about mplayer
[11:26] <ic56> Josh43: assuming nautilus and others are using ls rather than calling libc directly (not likely, but it's worth a shot), try this: mv /bin/ls /bin/ls.bin; echo /bin/ls.bin \"\$@\" |sort -i > /bin/ls
[11:27] <tu-em> chuckyp : one interesting thing,, when i leave the ubuntu on the login screen, then its the highest probability that it wont work, but when i log in, and lock the keyboard, then it works (for sometime)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> krietor: the easy way is in your pm
[11:27] <juanma> alguien espaol?
[11:27] <redguy> !es
[11:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:27] <krietor> that has DIVx support also?
[11:27] <tu-em> chuckyp : i'll check the logs, thnx for the hint
[11:27] <monteiro_> krietor : activate multiverse repositories and sudo apt-get install mplayer-xxx the xxx are 386, 586...
[11:27] <krietor> that mplayer?
[11:28] <chuckyp> tu-em, I wouldn't even know where to begin It definately seems like the router is hiccuping or your internal address is changing somehow then the port forwards are getting messed up.
[11:28] <krietor> ok thx
[11:28] <arrick> ok, restricted got me the w32 codec, but I cant get them to load on amarok
[11:28] <rkalsi_VS> Hello, anybody willing to help a newbie install ubuntu ?
[11:28] <ic56> Josh43: found it!  You want to modify LC_COLLATE.
[11:28] <tes1> !wine
[11:28] <nismo> ya im like a noob
[11:28] <nismo> so...
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell krietor about divx
[11:28] <nismo> when it coems to editing the sources.list
[11:28] <nismo> what do i use
[11:28] <arrick> rkalsi_VS, put the disk in the drive and go
[11:28] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, download the cd and install  I would read the wiki
[11:28] <tu-em> anyone tryed XGL on ubuntu ?
[11:28] <arrick> it will pretty much do all the work itself
[11:28] <tristanmike> nismo: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:28] <redguy> !tell tu-em about xgl
[11:29] <dyrne> nismo: or sudo gedit
[11:29] <ifr> tu-em #ubuntu-xgl
[11:29] <delphiuk> tristanmike: can't it be done via synaptic as well?
[11:29] <tristanmike> nismo: put a # in front of the cd line, then hit ctrl+x to save and enter to exit
[11:29] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[11:29] <tu-em> ah, theres a spec. channel :)
[11:29] <tu-em> sry
[11:29] <arrick> !freeformats
[11:29] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:29] <tristanmike> delphiuk: yeah, absolutely
[11:29] <tes1> what name is 5.10? brreeeezey?
[11:29] <delphiuk> tes1: yes
[11:29] <_harm> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:29] <nismo> well there doesnt seem to be anything referring to the cd
[11:29] <chuckyp> tes1, yes breezy
[11:29] <_harm> how would i mount:
[11:29] <gnomefreak> tes1: breezy badger
[11:29] <redguy> tes1: no, breezy badger is the name
[11:30] <_harm> how do i mount
[11:30] <_harm> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:30] <_harm> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:30] <tristanmike> delphiuk: if you've got the option to disable/enable software sources enabled
[11:30] <rkalsi_VS> having some pblm at Install the base package section
[11:30] <_harm> O.o
[11:30] <chuckyp> _harm, what are you trying to mount?
[11:30] <dyrne> nismo: on a default install the very top line should always be for the cd i would think
[11:30] <tes1> thx
[11:30] <_harm> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
sudo gedit /etc/fstab
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[11:30] <rkalsi_VS> It says, cant download bal bka,...
[11:30] <_harm> What the hell
[11:30] <delphiuk> tristanmike: right, what's the default then?
[11:30] <chuckyp> !tell _harm about pastebin
[11:30] <nismo> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[11:30] <redguy> _harm: ??
[11:30] <rkalsi_VS> anybudy ?
[11:30] <_harm>  i want to mount this /dev/hdb1               1        9964    80035798+  42  SFS
[11:30] <nismo> well its already uncommented
[11:30] <tristanmike> delphiuk: that option is not default, and neither is show disabled software sources
[11:30] <_harm> but its SFS.. so what the heck is tha NTFS?
[11:30] <tes1> how can i add something to "autostart"
[11:31] <tes1> with sudo
[11:31] <nismo> hmmmmm
[11:31] <dyrne> nismo: comment it out and then save changes then type sudo apt-get update
[11:31] <tristanmike> delphiuk: as well universe and mulitverse are not accessable by default
[11:31] <nismo> so wait, u want me to put in comments ?
[11:31] <delphiuk> tristanmike: sure
[11:31] <chuckyp> _harm, did you follow the mounting guide?
[11:31] <dyrne> nismo: #deb etc yes
[11:31] <chuckyp> !tell _harm about ntfs
[11:31] <nismo> ok
[11:31] <chuckyp> _harm, on that page is directions for different file systems also
[11:32] <_harm> i tried but the script didnt get it and fstab didnt do it
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> Guys, a newbie trying to install ubuntu. Stuck at install the base system...After partitioning, it tried to install but got stuck & errors were like: could not download....
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> I would have thot that everything is on CD ??
[11:32] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: have you checked your cd?
[11:32] <nismo> ok
[11:32] <nismo> did that
[11:32] <nismo> whats nxt
[11:32] <knanand> gnomefreak, now that i have mounted will i have difficulties in reading encrypted files on NTFS media?
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> did an integrity heck
[11:32] <chuckyp> _harm, if you do a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb  what tyep of partition is it?
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> it was fine.
[11:32] <poningru_> rkalsi_VS, it is what cd did you download?
[11:32] <dyrne> nismo: then sudo apt-get update and it should work
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> i did not download..got it via post
[11:32] <poningru_> oh wow
[11:32] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: did you verify the md5sum of the downloaded file you burnt ?
[11:33] <rkalsi_VS> the one which says - Install C
[11:33] <_harm> chuckyp system SFS
[11:33] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: never mind then :P
[11:33] <dyrne> nismo: while youre messing with sources.list might as well uncomment all the urls at the bottom
[11:33] <rkalsi_VS> trista* I got it via post..
[11:33] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: yea I saw that a split second after I hit enter, srry
[11:33] <nismo> they r all uncommented
[11:33] <dyrne> nismo: ok
[11:33] <rkalsi_VS> aby other ideas >
[11:33] <rkalsi_VS> any*
[11:34] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: try another cd, I assume you didn't get just one
[11:34] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: do you have the option of retry?
[11:34] <poningru_> rkalsi_VS, you should be good to go it just ignore the error
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> I got 2 - the other was Live  one ..
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> Nah..it wont go
[11:34] <poningru_> hmm
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> Its not progressing furthur
[11:34] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: no, I mean, you only recieved one set of cd's ?
[11:34] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, I would download the cd from the link I sent you.
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> Yeah ?
[11:34] <nismo> ...
[11:34] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: tried ejecting the cd, and then re-inserting before the retry?
[11:34] <_harm> Ah i got it to work :P
[11:34] <nismo> loading firefox
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> Is there more ?
[11:34] <knanand> will i have difficulties in reading encrypted files on NTFS media?
[11:34] <_harm> mount point was messed up
[11:35] <rkalsi_VS> Let me check, what u syggested delphiuk..
[11:35] <ThomS> Is there any way of reinstalling ubuntu without losing my files/data?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> knanand: dont know i dont use windows and the others in house dont use linux ;)
[11:36] <rkalsi_VS> bizarre, CD wont eject ???
[11:36] <_harm> iam going to reboot.. brb
[11:36] <nismo> ok
[11:37] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, because its mounted you would have to umount it to eject it.
[11:37] <nismo> CRAP
[11:37] <nismo> firefox keeps shutting down
[11:38] <nismo> what garbage
[11:38] <rkalsi_VS> oh, ok, one sec...
[11:38] <dyrne> nismo: breezy or dapper
[11:38] <chuckyp> nismo, what did you do now?  remove firefox?  then how did you install it?
[11:38] <dyrne> ?
[11:38] <rkalsi_VS> chucky, i wud have to abort the installation then, isnt it ?
[11:38] <tristanmike> dyrne: I have yet to peel that answer out
[11:38] <nismo> i just installed it using apt-get install
[11:38] <niki> can someone recommend an audio player that's got a media library (like amarok), but is not as resource hungry as amarok?
[11:38] <nismo> after the update
[11:38] <NickGarvey> .
[11:38] <nismo> breezy
[11:39] <chuckyp> niki, rythmbox
[11:39] <rkalsi_VS> chucky, i wud have to abort the installation then, isnt it ??
[11:39] <delphiuk> nismo: how did you remove firefox before?
[11:39] <nismo> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[11:39] <niki> thanky you chuckyp
[11:39] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, yes you would have to abort the installation I'm not sure what you are trying to do I'm sorry for interjeting in the middle I haven't been following completely.
[11:39] <rkalsi_VS> I am tryng to install ubuntu, chuckyp
[11:39] <rkalsi_VS> first timer
[11:40] <Cyorxamp> Is there an IRC channel for opensource.org?  I am trying to decide on a license to use and I could use a hand
[11:40] <rkalsi_VS> In the install the base system section,, i got stuck,,,
[11:40] <nismo> any ideas
[11:40] <rkalsi_VS> Apparantly, its trying to download sthing
[11:40] <rkalsi_VS> any idea ?
[11:40] <nismo> it only shutsdown on specific sites though
[11:40] <NickGarvey> nismo: such as?
[11:40] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, alright where did you get the cds again?
[11:40] <delphiuk> nismo: an example of a site?
[11:40] <rkalsi_VS> from ubuntu via post
[11:40] <nismo> like if im on a site, and i click on a link it will shutdown,... after it shutsdown andi try to return to the link it will again shutdown
[11:41] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: do you have the ability to download a cd from the web?
[11:41] <rkalsi_VS> delph, I am doing it now
[11:41] <dyrne> nismo: maybe view this as an opportunity.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:41] <rkalsi_VS> But, there seems to nothing wrong with that CD...
[11:41] <nismo> k
[11:41] <tristanmike> nismo: got a link ?
[11:41] <rkalsi_VS> delph, Why wud it try to download sthing ??
[11:41] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, what type of hardware are you installing on?
[11:41] <nismo> er lol
[11:41] <tristanmike> nismo: maybe these sites aren't firefox friendly
[11:42] <rkalsi_VS> chuckyp, its an AMP processor..
[11:42] <rkalsi_VS> AMD*
[11:42] <rkalsi_VS> x86
[11:42] <nismo> wait
[11:42] <nismo> im gettin errors
[11:42] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: it might say downloading, even though it is downloadiing from the cd
[11:42] <nismo> after i did sudo apt-get update
[11:42] <rkalsi_VS> oh ok..makes sense..
[11:42] <gridblock> hey
[11:42] <nismo> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[11:42] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, here if you want to see if its trying to download anything just unplug the pc from the net.  Then try you're install that way you definately know its not downloading any packages.
[11:42] <nismo> wait thats not it
[11:42] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, you could always update later.
[11:42] <nismo> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:43] <NickGarvey> !repos
[11:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:43] <rkalsi_VS> chuckyp, how can It be connected to net, i am installing ubuntu on it..
[11:43] <nismo>  Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[11:43] <lakai> anyone havin firewire wokrin in dapper?
[11:43] <rkalsi_VS> & IT
[11:43] <lakai> wokrin sorry
[11:43] <rkalsi_VS> it isnt configured yet..?
[11:43] <lakai> wtf
[11:43] <nismo> ^^^^ thats what i get after sudo apt-get update
[11:43] <lakai> working
[11:43] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, because I can do a netinstall froma cd but I don't believe ubuntu does this.
[11:43] <_jason> nismo: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:44] <tristanmike> nismo: do this: "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and paste the result on pastebin
[11:44] <tristanmike> !patebin
[11:44] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tristanmike
[11:44] <tristanmike> !pastebin
[11:44] <nismo> k
[11:44] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[11:44] <nismo> i dont wanna flood
[11:45] <nismo> how do u pastebin
[11:45] <_jason> nismo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:45] <ic56> !pastebin
[11:45] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[11:45] <nismo> ............
[11:45] <lakai> NONE using firewire currently? :-O
[11:45] <nismo> k
[11:45] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, well take for instance if you had a router that dhcp'd your network to share the internet connection it would connect after configureing the network.
[11:45] <Seveas> !pastebin =~ s/,//
[11:45] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[11:46] <Seveas> !pastebin =~ s/Install/You can install/
[11:46] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[11:46] <rkalsi_VS> chuchyp, yeahm understand, but I am using a wireless conn, & i dont think its connected to that network yet..
[11:46] <Josh43> What charcter is that??  ""
[11:46] <frank23> lakai: ask a more precise question. what firewire device are you trying to use and what is the problem
[11:46] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: do you have encription on the wireless connection?
[11:46] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, K
[11:46] <nismo> ok
[11:46] <nismo> after i go to that link i get the stuff, but there are #'s nxt to it
[11:46] <rkalsi_VS> delph, not at the moment..
[11:46] <nismo> do i paste what i get there?
[11:46] <tristanmike> nismo: now paste the link
[11:47] <nismo> ok
[11:47] <nismo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11005
[11:47] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: then, it may well be connected
[11:47] <nismo> brb
[11:47] <nismo> oh wait
[11:47] <_jason> nismo: ready?
[11:47] <nismo> no im not leaving :P
[11:47] <lakai> frank23: i have an ipod and another external firewire disk, none works
[11:47] <rkalsi_VS> delph, ok, let me discnnect it then...
[11:47] <lakai> (anymore)
[11:47] <nismo> ready?
[11:47] <nismo> for que
[11:47] <nismo> whats up
[11:47] <root_> Can anyone help me set up the Nvidia drivers
[11:47] <lakai> i just plug it in and get no response from anything..
[11:48] <_jason> nismo: for the answer, 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and delete the last two nonempty lines then run apt-get update again
[11:48] <nismo> ok
[11:48] <rkalsi_VS> delph, i have reconfigured network & supplied a wrong gateway,
[11:48] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, yeah it may be connecting
[11:48] <rkalsi_VS> delph, that shud take care of it, isnt it ??
[11:49] <_jason> nismo: delete lines 4 and 5 too
[11:49] <nismo> ok
[11:50] <nismo> ok
[11:50] <nismo> no more errors
[11:50] <nismo> so should i reinstall firefox?
[11:50] <Kasuko> Anyone?
[11:51] <mirak> there is a problem with dapper and gdm
[11:51] <mirak> and login
[11:51] <dyrne> nismo: it might be taking a chance but dapper is so close to release might consider just dist-upgrading
[11:51] <Stormx2> Oh wow the dependancies on the Skype deb have been fixed... at last!
[11:51] <_jason> nismo: sure
[11:51] <mirak> I switched session and there was the login prompt, but the taskbar where totally accessible
[11:51] <Seveas> Stormx2, ah cool, one more package I can remove from my repo
[11:52] <nismo> well
[11:52] <tristanmike> mirak: visit #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion
[11:52] <nismo> firefox STILL shutsdown
[11:52] <nismo> oh well
[11:52] <Stormx2> Seveas: I havn't tested it out yet mind. They got a new PM of the linux sector of skype and I think its going places at last 
[11:52] <tristanmike> nismo: can I please have the link
[11:52] <mirak> tristanmike: merci beaucoup much very
[11:52] <nismo> to the site?
[11:52] <rkalsi_VS> Chuckyp, starting from scratch :(
[11:52] <nismo> er it was like multiple sites
[11:52] <nismo> digg.com for example
[11:54] <nismo> sigh
[11:54] <nismo> i really dont wanna keep hassaling with this
[11:54] <nismo> im gonna go take a break
[11:54] <nismo> thanks for the help
[11:54] <tristanmike> mirak: du rein
[11:55] <Kasuko> Can someone help me get my precompiled headers from terminal
[11:55] <Red-Sox|HL1> hi
[11:55] <zebarbu> hi, I've a question about bash init scripts.
[11:56] <Ohm> Hey guys someone know a client MSN that have a invisible aparency?
[11:56] <NickGarvey> !bash
[11:56] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[11:56] <NickGarvey> mm
[11:56] <rybuntu> i have a creative zen pmc.. ive been trying to mount it in vmware.. but i need the blockstatus of it etc... /dec/whatever there doesnt seem to be one though is this possible?
[11:56] <NickGarvey> not what I was hoping
[11:56] <zebarbu> in /etc/profile, we do nothing if it is NOT an interractive mode (PS1 empty)
[11:56] <arrick> how do I change the default download location?
[11:56] <zebarbu> what bash script is loaded in non-interractive mode?
[11:56] <soundray> NickGarvey: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ any better?
[11:57] <tristanmike> arrick: in what, firefox?
[11:57] <rybuntu> what do you guys recommend using breezy or dapper?
[11:57] <ic56> twn zebarbu
[11:57] <arrick> in terminal
[11:57] <tristanmike> arrick: you mean for wget ?
[11:57] <soundray> rybuntu: breezy if you want to work. Dapper if you want to troubleshoot :)
[11:57] <ic56> zebarbu: there is no special script for non-interactive mode.
[11:57] <arrick> everything goes on the desktop
[11:57] <arrick> yeah
[11:57] <rybuntu> ahum
[11:57] <soundray> rybuntu: seriously, dapper is reasonably stable now.
[11:57] <Kasuko> Can anyone help me get my precompiled headers to install Nvidia drivers or atleast reset them to my old one
[11:58] <tristanmike> arrick: I always thought it was current directory
[11:58] <soundray> rybuntu: but not considered production quality.
[11:58] <rybuntu> soundray: im using dapper.. but just until recently
[11:58] <Keleksi> 25.4. is day of the dapper's release? :P
[11:58] <Ohm> Hey,  someone knows a client MSN who has control of visibility? ????
[11:58] <tristanmike> arrick: are you in the Desktop directory each time you wget ?
[11:58] <ic56> zebarbu: just branch-out from /etc/profile depending on the mode.
[11:58] <NickGarvey> Ohm: what do you mean visibility?
[11:58] <arrick> nope, home diretory
[11:58] <rybuntu> soundray: when is it a good time to start using the unstable
[11:58] <Ohm> let me see
[11:58] <rybuntu> soundray: around flight 3?
[11:58] <zebarbu> ic56: so, i'm supposed to modify file in /etc ?!?
[11:59] <zebarbu> ic56: there is no script in 'user space' in non-interractive?!?
[11:59] <Ohm> a program that when is maximized you can see the desktop for example
[11:59] <tombs> hi all
[11:59] <soundray> rybuntu: that's impossible to answer. It's a matter of taste, and it depends on how good you are at troubleshooting.
[11:59] <McJerry> what is the command to grep a files contents and output in terminal
[11:59] <Ohm> NickGarvey, do you understand?
[11:59] <rybuntu> soundray: breezy has a lot of old versions in its repos i like dappers better
[11:59] <_jason> McJerry: grep?
[11:59] <NickGarvey> Ohm: ah you want transparency!
[11:59] <ic56> zebarbu: note, however, that /etc/profile is only read *once* -- when you login.  /etc/bash.bashrc gets read by all shells, whether login or not.
[11:59] <NickGarvey> riht?
[11:59] <NickGarvey> right*