[12:00] <arrick> hey, guys I'm trying to install beep-media-player, and the turorial at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-33213.html
[12:00] <ic56> zebarbu: yes, you can use ~/.bashrc
[12:00] <Ohm> yessssssss"
[12:00] <NickGarvey> !bmp
[12:00] <ubotu> methinks bmp is a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[12:00] <bimberi> McJerry: grep searchword file
[12:00] <Kasuko> I really need to fix my x-server
[12:00] <zebarbu> ic56: nope, because it is canceled in /etc/bash.bashrc (a test for PS1 empty or not)
[12:00] <Ohm> hehehe NickGarvey, Sorry my english
[12:01] <McJerry> bimeri, i need the entire files contents printed in a terminal
[12:01] <arrick> tells me to do it through terminal, however i get this message 'checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[12:01] <arrick> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[12:01] <arrick> checking for gawk... no
[12:01] <arrick> checking for mawk... mawk
[12:01] <arrick> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[12:01] <Ohm> NickGarvey, you know any program?
[12:01] <arrick> checking for gcc... no
[12:01] <arrick> checking for cc... no
[12:01] <arrick> checking for cc... no
[12:01] <arrick> checking for cl... no
[12:01] <arrick> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:01] <arrick> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:01] <arrick> '
[12:01] <_jason> arrick: /part please
[12:01] <arrick> any help
[12:01] <Matthewv> use pastebin
[12:01] <arrick> sorry, didnt mean to spam it
[12:02] <bimberi> McJerry: cat file   ??
[12:02] <arrick> _jason?
[12:02] <ic56> zebarbu: incorrect.  ~/.bashrc gets read after /etc/bash.bashrc regardless of what does when it's read.
[12:02] <McJerry> k, thanks
[12:02] <_jason> arrick: thought your paste was longer, install build-essential
[12:02] <ic56> zebarbu: incorrect.  ~/.bashrc gets read after /etc/bash.bashrc regardless of what the latter does when it's read.
[12:02] <bimberi> arrick: (don't paste) and install build-essential
[12:02] <arrick> what are you saying
[12:02] <arrick> ok
[12:02] <krietor> how can i get the privileges to read and WRITE on NTFS hard drives that contain my data????
[12:02] <ubuntu> hola
[12:02] <arrick> _jason, I use sudo for that rigth?
[12:02] <_jason> krietor: are you using fstab?
[12:03] <_jason> arrick: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[12:03] <poningru_> krietor, dont write to ntfs thats dangerous
[12:03] <Ohm> Hey,  someone knows a client MSN who has control of transparency? ????
[12:03] <poningru_> you can corrupt your entire data
[12:03] <arrick> just wanted to make sure
[12:03] <poningru_> err entire drive
[12:03] <tristanmike> krietor: you "can't"  well you can, but you very seriously risk compromising your ntfs drive
[12:03] <arrick> ic56, sorry it wa achecking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[12:03] <arrick> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[12:03] <arrick> checking for gawk... no
[12:03] <arrick> checking for mawk... mawk
[12:03] <arrick> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[12:03] <chuckyp> Ohm, what have you tried? so far?
[12:03] <arrick> checking for gcc... no
[12:03] <arrick> checking for cc... no
[12:03] <NickGarvey> !paste
[12:03] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:03] <arrick> checking for cc... no
[12:03] <_jason> arrick: come on...
[12:03] <krietor> awww
[12:03] <arrick> checking for cl... no
[12:03] <chuckyp> Ohm, I don't see that option in gaim.
[12:03] <arrick> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:04] <arrick> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:04] <chuckyp> Ohm, maybe kopete
[12:04] <krietor> damn
[12:04] <arrick> longn accident, didnt think it was that
[12:04] <krietor> :(
[12:04] <no_gatez_fan> krietor/ no write on ntfs
[12:04] <arrick> crap
[12:04] <NickGarvey> !tell arrick about paste
[12:04] <arrick> sorry
[12:04] <FreckledP> arick, you suck
[12:04] <NickGarvey> oh alrighty
[12:04] <tristanmike> arrick: don't paste in here please
[12:04] <chuckyp> !tell arrick about build-essential
[12:04] <arrick> the touch pad was on and I accidently hit it
[12:04] <FreckledP> !tell arrick I hate him
[12:04] <arrick> sorry
[12:04] <no_gatez_fan> might toast (corupt) hd ntfs is on
[12:04] <NickGarvey> FreckledP: mm no need to be mean it was an accident
[12:04] <bimberi> !tell FreckledP about conduct
[12:04] <arrick> FreckledP, why? never make a mistake?
[12:05] <FreckledP> :) sorry, I have a near terminal case of "asshole" today.
[12:05] <tristanmike> arrick: don't respond to rude comments like that
[12:05] <FreckledP> my apologies
[12:05] <tristanmike> !language
[12:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:05] <chuckyp> lol
[12:05] <arrick> ok
[12:05] <tristanmike> FreckledP: this is a very public irc room, kids are in here
[12:06] <poningru_> krietor, if you still want to do it I can get you the link
[12:06] <poningru_> but its very very risky
[12:06] <krietor> nahh
[12:06] <zebarbu> ic56: you're sleepy? see your private messages, I answerd...
[12:06] <krietor> i guess ill dula boot
[12:06] <FreckledP> let me rephrase:  I have a near terminal case of "not very smart"
[12:06] <krietor> dual boot with winxp
[12:06] <poningru_> krietor, good idea
[12:06] <tristanmike> krietor: I like to have a FAT partition for shared files
[12:06] <poningru_> yeah
[12:06] <krietor> fat is no problem?
[12:06] <poningru_> make a fat32 partition
[12:06] <tristanmike> krietor: not at all
[12:06] <poningru_> no problemo at all
[12:06] <krietor> but fat cant andle 4gb files
[12:06] <krietor> ....
[12:07] <krietor> hummm
[12:07] <tristanmike> what single file is over 4 gig
[12:07] <poningru_> tristanmike, many vid files
[12:07] <chuckyp> tristanmike, dvd movie
[12:07] <krietor> ermm
[12:07] <krietor> dvds
[12:07] <NickGarvey> file splitter!
[12:07] <tristanmike> iso'd
[12:07] <krietor> isos
[12:07] <krietor> rars
[12:07] <NickGarvey> !enter
[12:07] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:07] <arrick> hey thanks _jason, it went through this time
[12:07] <_jason> arrick: np
[12:07] <krietor> will be a fix up in a near future?
[12:08] <tristanmike> krietor: they're working on it
[12:08] <chuckyp> krietor, A fix of fat?
[12:08] <tristanmike> i think he might mean ntfs
[12:08] <krietor> a fix of writing NTFS without toasting
[12:08] <poningru_> krietor, yes look at bug #1 on malone
[12:08] <chuckyp> yeah its being worked on.
[12:08] <poningru_> they plan to fix it real good
[12:08] <krietor> good :D
[12:08] <tristanmike> lol @ poningru
[12:08] <tristanmike> lol @ poningru_
[12:08] <krietor> well i guess ill have to wait then :D
[12:08] <krietor> btw guys
[12:09] <krietor> i got a lilttle question
[12:09] <poningru_> :D
[12:09] <krietor> ive downloaded cedega
[12:09] <krietor> how can i install it
[12:09] <tristanmike> !cedega
[12:09] <krietor> *me  = n00b*
[12:09] <poningru_> ubotu, cedega
[12:09] <tristanmike> !cedega+
[12:09] <ubotu> tristanmike: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:09] <talentumprotalen> hey does anyone have any recomendations as far as robotics controller scripts particularly arms and stepper motors?
[12:09] <tristanmike> !+cedega
[12:09] <ubotu> somebody said cedega was (formerly known as WineX) is TransGaming Technologies' proprietary fork of Wine, which is designed specifically for running games written for Microsoft Windows under Linux. As such, its primary focus is implementing the DirectX API. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[12:09] <tristanmike> heh
[12:09] <poningru_> krietor, what are you trying to do?
[12:09] <talentumprotalen> google is helping me but i thought id try at the collective intelligence herein
[12:10] <krietor> that doesnt help me at all
[12:10] <rkalsi_VS> Hello, Has anyone seen any problem installing from ubuntu 5. CD
[12:10] <krietor> im trying to understand how can i install new software
[12:10] <rkalsi_VS> I am stuck at ;Install the base system'
[12:10] <_jason> arrick: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and link everyone.  That way everyone can try to help you out
[12:10] <krietor> that i download from internet
[12:10] <poningru_> talentumprotalen, if you find an answer can you let me know about it?
[12:10] <tristanmike> krietor: what type of file is it ? a deb ?
[12:10] <rkalsi_VS> It says, it is tryin gto download sthing..& then gets stuck!!!
[12:10] <krietor> humm
[12:10] <krietor> the come ziped
[12:10] <krietor> like gz
[12:10] <krietor> then i extract
[12:10] <krietor> and im stuck
[12:10] <tristanmike> krietor: Cedega is a "pay for program
[12:10] <tristanmike> "
[12:11] <bimberi> !enter
[12:11] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:11] <poningru_> krietor, what did you download?
[12:11] <NickGarvey> krietor: mm you might not want to have to compile things
[12:11] <krietor> hummm
[12:11] <krietor> for example i want to install winx
[12:11] <LinuxJones> talentumprotalen: what language python ?
[12:11] <krietor> wine
[12:11] <krietor> i eman
[12:11] <krietor> mean*
[12:11] <arrick> _jason, I sent you a pm so I wouldnt flood
[12:11] <patrick52222> 
[12:12] <krietor> i got the package
[12:12] <arrick> ok
[12:12] <krietor> but then i dunno how to install it at all
[12:12] <krietor> :(
[12:12] <tristanmike> krietor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[12:12] <_jason> arrick: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and link everyone.  That way everyone can try to help you out
[12:12] <patrick52222> cant you get cedega for free some how
[12:12] <_jason> arrick: what are you trying to compile anyway?
[12:12] <talentumprotalen> absolutely poningru_ so far eccma.org seems like quite a good source yet i havent looked to thouroughly at it.
[12:12] <krietor> but what is that sudo command?
[12:12] <NickGarvey> is cedega open source?
[12:12] <krietor> should u open a terminal?
[12:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell krietor about sudo
[12:13] <tristanmike> krietor: you mean "dpkg -i ....." ?
[12:13] <patrick52222> you can compile it your self, i dont know who to
[12:13] <poningru_> NickGarvey, no its not
[12:13] <poningru_> talentumprotalen, thanks
[12:13] <arrick> I am trying to install beep media, so I can play my .wma music, and get them into the library
[12:13] <_jason> arrick: beep is in the repos.  Does that one not play wma?
[12:14] <arrick> nope
[12:14] <talentumprotalen> Python would indeed be a wonderful option LinuxJones though i would probably base my system around the right code
[12:14] <talentumprotalen> you bet poningru_
[12:14] <arrick> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-33213.html says you have to do all this other modification, and the last step failed
[12:15] <poningru_> talentumprotalen, hmm that doesnt really seem to have much
[12:16] <_jason> arrick: can you pastebin what you /msg'd me?
[12:16] <swmiller6> I have dapper installed on mt laptop and I am having a wierd problem maybe some one here can help. The sound comes and goes, sometime when I start the laptop it is there next time it is not, if I mute it and reboot then unmute it is back...
[12:16] <arrick> yeah
[12:16] <arrick> hang on
[12:16] <arrick> !pastebin
[12:16] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - You can install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar
[12:16] <DJ_Tobias> anybody know of any good docs for building a routing server?
[12:16] <LinuxJones> talentumprotalen:  a quick google search spit out this although there is not much on the site >> http://emergent.brynmawr.edu/~dblank/pyro/ . Pop into #python there are some very knowlegable folks in there.
[12:17] <arrick> I sent it under everyone
[12:17] <talentumprotalen> wonderful thank you LinuxJones
[12:18] <_jason> arrick: ok first off don't use sudo make install, you are going to use sudo checkinstall instead.  That will create a package so you can easily remove it using synaptic later if you want.  do this 'sudo aptitude install checkinstall'
[12:18] <jacky_> yop
[12:18] <arrick> ok
[12:18] <jacky_> ya des francais ici?
[12:18] <_jason> !fr
[12:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:18] <Seveas> !fr
[12:18] <talentumprotalen> no it doesnt does it poningru_ sorry i was only able to glance at it....oh i see it requres membership
[12:18] <poningru_> talentumprotalen, yeah :(
[12:19] <poningru_> talentumprotalen, I wanted to build an auto cd burner thing
[12:19] <poningru_> actually hold on
[12:19] <ardinary> How do I find information on my processor?
[12:20] <_jason> arrick: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:20] <_jason> ardinary: ^
[12:20] <poningru_> talentumprotalen, www.geocities.jp/takascience/lego/fabs_en.html
[12:20] <arrick> you send to the wrong person?
[12:20] <LinuxJones> talentumprotalen:  here's some more info >>  http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:3GgX18x9iWEJ:www.cs.uml.edu/~holly/papers/pyro-JERIC-05.pdf+python+robotics+control&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=14&client=firefox
[12:20] <ardinary> uh huh :P thanks _jason
[12:20] <_jason> arrick: ignore the above, is checkinstall done isntalling?
[12:20] <arrick> _jason, and still no wma plays
[12:20] <arrick> yeh
[12:21] <_jason> arrick: yes, we aren't done.  Now do this: 'sudo apt-get build-dep beep-media-player'
[12:21] <arrick> ok
[12:21] <_jason> arrick: that install the dependencies needed for building beep from the repos
[12:21] <ardinary> buh bye! <3
[12:21] <arrick> ok
[12:22] <arrick> _j
[12:22] <arrick> _jason, how do I make the beep controller bigger, so I can see it?
[12:22] <_jason> arrick: you did this already: 'sudo apt-get install beep-media-player-dev beep-media-player'?
[12:22] <_jason> arrick: I have no idea
[12:22] <arrick> hang on
[12:23] <talentumprotalen> omg thats incredible Legos! that guy is a genius poningru_
[12:23] <arrick> _jason, I did that without the beep-media-player on the end, though
[12:24] <arrick> _jason, I did both seperately
[12:24] <talentumprotalen> great resource thank you LinuxJones
[12:24] <_jason> arrick: ok that's fine.  Now do ./configure and see if there are any errors
[12:24] <LinuxJones> aye
[12:25] <poningru_> talentumprotalen, I know right
[12:25] <skysel> hoy, i have problem partitioning.. if i do guided partitioning with ext3/swap and software raid out of 2 sata disks, when i try to format raid1 partition according to guide, it formats then says failed to create filesystem
[12:25] <Martinymen> alguem fala portuga
[12:25] <talentumprotalen> the reason i ask is im interested in developing a gem cutting machine if i can pull it off >he he he
[12:25] <_jason> !pt
[12:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:25] <skysel> im puzzled, however if i manualy create ext3/any kind of partition
[12:25] <skysel> system will go on installing
[12:26] <poningru_> talentumprotalen, woah dude
[12:26] <arrick> _jason, would it say error near the end of the 300 lines?
[12:26] <krietor> does anyone know how to put subtitles into played movies?
[12:26] <_jason> arrick: maybe... maybe not
[12:26] <krietor> like .sub or .srt
[12:26] <talentumprotalen> should be interesting. lol
[12:26] <Martinymen> oix vice versa
[12:26] <arrick> ok I'll look string by string thn
[12:26] <_jason> arrick: just pastebin if you want
[12:27] <AceOfHertz> Hi, I'm running a dual-boot windows/ubuntu desktop.  I accidentally formatted a partition without grabbing a file off it, how can I recover this file?
[12:27] <arrick> ok
[12:28] <arrick> _jason, its under everyone
[12:28] <_jason> arrick: it's easier if you just give a link next time, but I found it
[12:29] <arrick> how do I give a link?
[12:29] <arrick> found it
[12:29] <arrick> sorry
[12:29] <soundray> AceOfHertz: you'd be very lucky if you can recover that. What type of file was it?
[12:30] <AceOfHertz> it was actually a directory full of files
[12:30] <_jason> arrick: ok now 'make'
[12:30] <arrick> there are errors on line 157 and 158
[12:30] <Fear_of_god> I know a recovery tool unfortunately its a torton tool
[12:30] <arrick> 165
[12:30] <soundray> AceOfHertz: what type of files?
[12:30] <Fear_of_god> norton*
[12:30] <arrick> 175
[12:30] <ic56> AceOfHertz: Was that a Linux filesystem or a Windows one/
[12:30] <AceOfHertz> ext3
[12:31] <AceOfHertz> it was /dev/sda1
[12:31] <_jason> arrick: those are from before though.  You pasted more than just your last ./configure.  See it?  Your ./configure begins at 286 afaict
[12:31] <arrick> ok
[12:31] <mjb> Hey Ubuntuans, Is there any way I can stop a metacity window from gaining focus when alt+tabbing.. (ie only by clicking?)
[12:32] <_jason> arrick: on 463 it says `` bmp-wma version 0.1.1 configured successfully.'' that's how you know it configured ok
[12:32] <Newbieee> who can help my to install ndiswrapper but not with tutorial...because i`ve tried everithing from here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation and is not working
[12:32] <Fear_of_god> I canot get cedega too run :-( what am I doing wrong?
[12:32] <arrick> _jason, this is the link to the make
[12:32] <arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11008
[12:32] <Fear_of_god> I instaleld bloodscape but just sits tehre when I tell it too play
[12:33] <_jason> arrick: make clean && make
[12:33] <arrick> ok
[12:34] <Fear_of_god> I am running kubuntu & need 2 get cedega too run, how do I install bloodscape using cedea & get too stay installed?
[12:34] <Fear_of_god> ceega*
[12:34] <Fear_of_god> Oops cedega*
[12:34] <arrick> here is the new link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11009
[12:34] <tristanmike> Fear_of_god: you can try #cedega
[12:34] <arrick> after the make clean & make
[12:35] <_jason> arrick: let me try to build it
[12:35] <marcello> anyone can help me wth DataBase?
[12:35] <arrick> ok
[12:35] <Fear_of_god> nobody in cedega mosty of time
[12:35] <krietor> does anyone know how to add subtitles to movies played by VLC player?
[12:36] <arrick> what about database, got  book here for them
[12:36] <alan|laptop> hi all
[12:36] <tristanmike> Fear_of_god: really, I went in and was helped with 2 problems right away
[12:36] <frank23> Fear_of_god: for installing and using games in cedega check the transgaming forums
[12:36] <tristanmike> tell Fear_of_god about cedega
[12:36] <alan|laptop> i downloaded a .rar file which is protected by a password, and of course i do not have this password... :/ is there a way to bypass this password ?
[12:37] <tristanmike> Fear_of_god: also check the pm from ubotu for some more information
[12:37] <_jason> alan|laptop: start guessing
[12:37] <krietor> i don think so
[12:37] <arrick> contact the place you got the file from
[12:37] <Fear_of_god> i have cedega nI need too run it, its installed!
[12:37] <alan|laptop> arrick, i did, but the author won't answer my mails...
[12:38] <Fear_of_god> !tell tristan about using bots pissing ppl off
[12:38] <Fear_of_god> : )
[12:38] <Fear_of_god> I got bot ignored :)
[12:38] <tristanmike> !conduct
[12:38] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:38] <tristanmike> !language
[12:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:38] <migaloo> Hello, is anyone using emacs + xft?
[12:38] <tristanmike> i'm just trying to help :(
[12:38] <_jason> arrick: interestingly enough, I get the same error.  It only works if I use gcc-3.4
[12:38] <Fear_of_god> thats not bad language Grow up
[12:39] <Fear_of_god> way rom Keyboard
[12:39] <marcello> hi arrick
[12:39] <_jason> arrick: sudo aptitude install gcc-3.4
[12:39] <marcello> postgree is fine
[12:39] <marcello> ;)
[12:39] <alan|laptop> mmm... looks like _jason was write : i guessed the password :)
[12:39] <Newbieee>  who can help my to install ndiswrapper but not with tutorial...because i`ve tried everithing from here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation and is not working
[12:39] <migaloo> .. I keep getting "No fonts found" when trying to start it (emacs)
[12:39] <arrick> ok
[12:39] <_jason> alan|laptop: wow, I'm impressed
[12:40] <soundray> Will xubuntu run with 64MB of RAM?
[12:40] <_jason> arrick: 'export CC=gcc-3.4', then './configure' and then 'make'
[12:40] <alan|laptop> _jason, it was the author's mail adress ^^
[12:40] <arrick> ok
[12:40] <murph2481> anyone good with CUPS?
[12:40] <murph2481> I have many issues....
[12:40] <DBO> soundray, yes, but its pushing it
[12:40] <murph2481> mainly it doesn't work :)
[12:40] <soundray> DBO: thanks
[12:40] <krietor> does anyone know how to add subtitles to movies played by VLC player?
[12:40] <arrick> alan|laptop, get the whois on the author and get his phone number
[12:41] <DBO> soundray, there are much less RAM intensive distros that might be a better choice with such minimal RAM
[12:41] <alan|laptop> murph2481, can you see your printer in http://localhost:631
[12:41] <alan|laptop> ?
[12:41] <arrick> wow
[12:41] <arrick> murph2481, what kind of printer do you have?
[12:42] <murph2481> alan|laptop nope says my CUPS server isn't running....i get an error exited signal 11 when i try to start cupsys
[12:42] <Toran> Are there any programs in linux taht I could use to check stock prices in real time?
[12:42] <alan|laptop> mmm... too hard for me, sorry murph2481
[12:42] <murph2481> epson R320.....it works with my other computer running CUPS, but something happend with this one and I cannot figure out how to fix it
[12:42] <murph2481> i have tried completly removing CUPS and reinstalling to no luck
[12:42] <DBO> Toran, there is a stock ticker built right into the gnome UI
[12:42] <arrick> did you set users in CUPS?
[12:43] <DavyO> hello people
[12:43] <Toran> DBO: Yes, but is its source updated in real time?
[12:43] <Toran> As the stock price changes?
[12:43] <murph2481> arrick what do you mean? when i try to start CUPS i get an error and it cannot start
[12:43] <DBO> within 15 or so minutes since the prices are grabbed from the web
[12:43] <DBO> it updates every 5 minutes, but you can shorten that time
[12:44] <arrick> that happened to me the other day too
[12:44] <arrick> cant remember what the fix was though
[12:44] <DavyO> i am new to linux and gnome, can someone help me with a icon theme :)
[12:44] <murph2481> i have no idea how to fix it....i dont want to reinstall ubuntu to fix it i will loose all my emails and settings and crap
[12:44] <munkie2> quick question...how do you change virtual desktops(besides mouse)?  i try alt + # and it doesnt work : |
[12:44] <gridblock> what player is playing mp3 files for gnome?
[12:45] <murph2481> but my laptop runs CUPS and ubuntu fine
[12:46] <Toran> DBO: Yeah, where does it grab those prices from, though?
[12:46] <bimberi> munkie2: ctrl-alt-<left or right arrow>
[12:46] <Toran> I mean, most places are only updated every 2 hours or so
[12:46] <DBO> erm... oh heck if I know...
[12:47] <DavyO> has anyone installed the Tango icon theme with synaptic?
[12:47] <Ohm> hey someone knows a client MSN that run in TERMINAL KONSOLE???????
[12:47] <_jason> arrick: is it working for you now?
[12:47] <arrick> nope
[12:47] <arrick> should I try rebooting?
[12:48] <munkie2> bimberi, thanks!
[12:48] <arrick> hang on
[12:48] <_jason> arrick: even after you did the export thing?
[12:48] <bimberi> munkie2: yw :)
[12:48] <Delvien> Help ! i cannot do any updates without rebooting, says the E: Unable to lock the download directory
[12:48] <mheath> Ohm: Please rephrase your question. I don't understand.
[12:48] <alonsod> hi..how are you??
[12:48] <Ohm> osk
[12:48] <DBO> Toran, I believe it is yahoo
[12:48] <_jason> arrick: actually, you should get the latest version at http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2308 because that thread is almost a year old
[12:48] <arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11010
[12:48] <arrick> ok
[12:49] <alonsod> does anybody knows how to configure a client Vpn...
[12:49] <DBO> which to my recolection is updated every 10 minutes
[12:49] <_jason> arrick: never mind doesn't seem to have been updated :)
[12:49] <alan|laptop> good night all
[12:49] <arrick> ok
[12:49] <DBO> Toran, if you are looking to do day trading, the stock ticker isnt the best one to use anyhow
[12:49] <Ohm> mheath, do you know a client MSN "messenger program" that RUN in KONSOLE, I want a Cliente MSN that run in text mode, do you understand?
[12:49] <_jason> arrick: it compiled, now you need to install it.  close beep, 'sudo checkinstall', open beep when it finishes
[12:50] <soundray> DBO: I know about DSL Linux. Do you have something else in mind for small RAM?
[12:50] <bimberi> Ohm: centericq
[12:50] <k31th> yo..
[12:50] <arrick> ok, I just uninstalled it, ouch
[12:50] <Ohm> bimberi, I am downloading now ;) thanks
[12:50] <trujass> wave69 gracias!
[12:51] <bimberi> Ohm: np
[12:51] <DBO> soundray, not really, I could look around at distros
[12:51] <Ohm> bimberi, Can I user my MSN accont in this program?
[12:51] <soundray> DBO: no, don't worry
[12:51] <bimberi> Ohm: never used it sorry
[12:51] <Ohm> oks
[12:51] <patrick52222> how do install this   "sh WineCVS.sh
[12:51] <patrick52222> "
[12:51] <DBO> soundray, ram is cheap, it wouldnt be hard to get another 128 in there
[12:52] <AngryElf> how do i check root's email?
[12:52] <DBO> AngryElf, sudo -s
[12:52] <DBO> then mail
[12:52] <soundray> DBO: I was just helping a guy with 64MB of RAM, 366MHz CPU and an old S3 card... we got it going, but he's shopping for RAM now :)
[12:52] <juanramon> quit
[12:53] <DBO> actually, you can just do "sudo mail"
[12:53] <arrick> _jason
[12:53] <mheath> By the way, has anyone managed to get DRI acceleration working in 5.10 with a Matrox MGA G200?
[12:53] <patrick52222> how do i get this running in a terminal  sh WineCVS.sh
[12:53] <_jason> arrick: ?
[12:53] <arrick> _jason, which link of the many should I be using on that page?
[12:53] <DBO> soundray, good deal
[12:53] <mheath> Only found some older forum posts on it; it was outdated, and none of the suggestions worked.
[12:53] <_jason> arrick: ignore it, it's the same as the one you have.  Just type 'sudo checkinstall' in your window and hit enter at the prompts until it finishes
[12:54] <tristanmike> patrick52222: you would need to download the package that contains it, change directory to the location of it, and type that command in a terminal
[12:54] <mheath> patrick52222: What do you mean? "sh WineCVS.sh" is a command you would type into the terminal. It would run a script, a file called WineCVS.sh. What are you trying to do?
[12:54] <_jason> arrick: I just did that and my beep now opens wma
[12:54] <arrick> _jason I uninstalled it while you were sending that link, too quick with the fingers
[12:54] <patrick52222> wheath: see how easy it is to compile cedega
[12:54] <arrick> I did reinstall, but need to do all that over again now
[12:55] <_jason> arrick: uninstalled what? beep?
[12:55] <skysel> at 1gb ram, do i need swap partition?
[12:55] <mheath> patrick52222: OK. Did you download the file WineCVS.sh?
[12:55] <skysel> i have tmpfs ~440mb
[12:55] <patrick52222> the WineCVS.sh
[12:55] <patrick52222>  file is on my desktop and my user is patrick, so wat command would i have to use
[12:55] <skysel> is that oke?
[12:55] <_jason> patrick52222: to run it you would do 'sh ~/Desktop/WineCVS.sh'
[12:55] <mheath> patrick52222: Open up the terminal, and run "cd Desktop". Then, run "./WineCVS.sh
[12:56] <void^> skysel: use a small swap partition, like 256mb
[12:56] <arrick> _jason yeah
[12:56] <patrick52222> cheers all
[12:56] <arrick> beep
[12:56] <_jason> arrick: so just do sudo aptitude install beep-media-player
[12:56] <arrick> I reinstalled it, and is wont work still
[12:56] <ifdev> hi all... when installation ubuntu (5.10) it reaches the bootloader installation stage (i have winxp professional on another partition) and it fails.. any ideas about how can i install the bootloader on the root partition (hdd10).. tried rescue mood and did an "grub-install /dev/hdd10".. it installed gurbed but it doesn't boot.. any ideas?
[12:56] <arrick> ok
[12:57] <skysel> void^ i cannot use any swap partition, since install procedure (partitioning) won't let me on because of error "failed to create filesytem"..
[12:57] <mheath> Hmm, does Ubuntu not have any international IRC channels? Most other distros have like  #*-es, -nl, etc. Kind of hard to understand some users attempts at English.
[12:57] <skysel> if i create manualy 1 filesystem only, it installs
[12:57] <tristanmike> ifdev: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto/
[12:57] <arrick> _jason, Next step?
[12:57] <tristanmike> ifdev: try that
[12:57] <_jason> arrick: go to the directory where you are compiling and type 'sudo checkinstall'
[12:57] <arrick> ok
[12:58] <patrick52222> what winex should i pick  winex330, winex320, winex310
[12:58] <arrick> _jason I still get that error
[12:59] <_jason> arrick: what error
[12:59] <ifdev> tristanmike: i have the extipl bot manager already installed on the MBR... so i can select to boot hdd10 .. grub opens fine.. but it doesn't boot ubuntu
[12:59] <ifdev> s/bot/boot
[12:59] <arrick> unable to play files, make sure you have the pluginns required
[01:00] <_jason> arrick: after the checkinstall command did you answer the questions it asked?
[01:00] <tristanmike> ifdev: oh, sorry, I way misunderstood
[01:00] <ifdev> tristanmike: it's okay
[01:00] <arrick> _jason, you mean the one that asks you to make a directory?
[01:00] <_jason> arrick: it asks a few.  At the end did it say ``Done. The new package has been installed and saved to...'' ?
[01:00] <tristanmike> ifdev: so when you select the ubuntu option in grub it goes to a black screen and that's it, no text ?
[01:01] <arrick> nope
[01:01] <pounard> salut les moules
[01:01] <_jason> arrick: are you back at a prompt in your terminal?
[01:01] <pounard> hi
[01:01] <pounard> sorry for the french
[01:01] <tristanmike> !fr
[01:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:01] <arrick> not in the default, I;m in the directory
[01:01] <ifdev> tristanmike: no options whatsoever... just a prompt... typing "boot" doesn't work either and complains about an unloaded kernel
[01:01] <arrick> cd ..
[01:01] <arrick> not there
[01:01] <Alan71> hi pounard
[01:02] <pounard> hey Alan71
[01:02] <tristanmike> ifdev: so grub doesn't work ? I'm confused now :P
[01:02] <_jason> arrick: you are confusing me :)  can you pastebin the last thing you did as well as the output?
[01:02] <arrick> ok
[01:02] <ifdev> tristanmike: i just need to find a way to install a bootloader that actually boots ubuntu off hdd10
[01:03] <dumezil> i accidentally removed myself from all groups except src...  now i can't do much...  no sudo, no sound, etc...  what should i do?
[01:03] <dyrne> dumezil: you forgot to type in the entire group list when you added one?
[01:04] <dumezil> dyrne exactly
[01:04] <arrick> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11013
[01:04] <tristanmike> ifdev: oh, I think I understand now, it's in /boot/grub/menu.lst iirc
[01:04] <_jason> dumezil: use addgroup to add yourself to groups.  As for your problem, boot in recovery and do 'adduser your_normal_username admin' then boot normal and use sudo to give yourself membership to all the other stuff
[01:04] <pounard> dumezil> you can always boot in single mode to put you into theses groups again
[01:04] <mheath> dumezil: You had no root password set?
[01:05] <ifdev> tristanmike: so i should do what?
[01:05] <dumezil> mheath i thought the ubuntu idea was that root was disabled
[01:05] <Dr`Keo> My graphics screw up if I use nvidia-glx-config enable, but if it's disabled, the gfx are normal. I'm using an nvidia geforce 6200.
[01:05] <mheath> dumezil: You can enable it, and lots of users do. I asked because fixing this would be easy if you could directly login to root.
[01:05] <wsjunior> guys, which kernel should i use for an athlon xp? k7 or 686?
[01:06] <danc3> I can't take this group any more.  When does noob hour end?
[01:06] <trappist> wsjunior: k7
[01:06] <_jason> arrick: make clean && export CC=gcc-3.4 && ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[01:06] <Who_> wsjunior - you want K7
[01:06] <arrick> ok
[01:07] <wsjunior> transgress, Who_ thanks. i saw this thread and now i'm confused ->http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22218.html
[01:07] <Who_> TeChGuY - installing things in Ubuntu is done either using synaptic (System-->Admistration-->Syanptic Package Manager), where you can search for and select a whole load of pre-compiled packages
[01:07] <wsjunior> i'll try k7 anyways.. thanks
[01:08] <tristanmike> ifdev: hmmm..this isn't really my strong suit, and I don't want to bring you down the wrong path, you should ask again....sorry :(
[01:08] <Cyorxamp> Can someone help me print?  I have the drivers and that set up in CUPS but i get the client-error-not-possible message
[01:08] <Cyorxamp> CUPS seems to cancel the print job for me, when I try and retry the print job I get that message
[01:08] <ifdev> tristanmike: it's okay.. thanks alot for trying
[01:08] <Dr`Keo> My graphics screw up if I use nvidia-glx-config enable, but if it's disabled, the gfx are normal. I'm using an nvidia geforce 6200.
[01:08] <Cyorxamp> Not sure if the log I have here (i set CUPS to debug) mode means anything tho
[01:08] <FliesLikeABrick> what part of the system is responsible for displaying the Ubuntu splash screen at boot, and where would I find errors given by this?  My splash doesn't display at boot, it simply goes grub --> black screen for a bit --> login
[01:09] <trappist> Cyorxamp: how are you printing
[01:09] <Cyorxamp> how?
[01:09] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know of any Video DVD Authoring with burning programs for linux?
[01:09] <ic56> !ubotu splash
[01:09] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[01:10] <ifdev> so well guys.. i wanna reinstall the ubuntu bootloader on hdd10... any ideas?
[01:10] <trappist> Cyorxamp: like, from an application's print dialog? lp? lpr? remotely or locally?
[01:10] <Cyorxamp> app's dialog box
[01:10] <Cyorxamp> Tried gThumb and gEdit so far
[01:10] <arrick> _jason, im post to pastebin again, its not working
[01:10] <waterbottle> how can i change the resolution of ubuntu after installing?
[01:10] <jadaz87> !resolution
[01:10] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:10] <trappist> Cyorxamp: what if you say "lp <some txt file>" on the command line
[01:10] <_jason> arrick: ok
[01:10] <ifdev> !bootloader
[01:10] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ifdev
[01:11] <ifdev> !boot loader
[01:11] <ubotu> ifdev: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:11] <trappist> !grub
[01:11] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:11] <dyrne> ifdev: sudo grub, root (hd*,*), setup (hd*)?
[01:12] <arrick> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11014
[01:12] <Cyorxamp> trappist - well the web interface says its 'processing' but nothing coming out
[01:12] <Cyorxamp> trappist - unlike past print jobs where it just shows it as 'aborted'
[01:12] <arrick> _jason, i'm gonna reboot right quick, brb
[01:12] <trappist> Cyorxamp: and lp doesn't say client-error-not-possible?
[01:12] <_jason> arrick: noooooo
[01:12] <arrick> ok
[01:12] <k31th> taring will keep perms ?
[01:13] <Cyorxamp> trappist - ok, nevermind it's gone to 'aborted' now
[01:13] <trappist> Cyorxamp: have a look at your /var/log/cups/error_log
[01:13] <Cyorxamp> trappist - I already have looked at that file
[01:13] <arrick> _jason,  got your message
[01:13] <trappist> Cyorxamp: and?
[01:13] <Cyorxamp> trappist - I get the client-error-not-possible message when I click 'retry job' on the web interface
[01:13] <ic56> k31th: yes, tar preserves permissions.
[01:13] <Cyorxamp> trappist - want me to paste the bits to pastebin?
[01:13] <Dr`Keo> My graphics screw up if I use nvidia-glx-config enable, but if it's disabled, the gfx are normal. I'm using an nvidia geforce 6200. Can someone help? I'd like to get back to beatin' those windoze users on Quake 3... =)
[01:13] <_jason> arrick: you didn't use the command I gave you.  You forgot the 'export CC=gcc-3.4' before configuring and checkinstalling
[01:13] <arrick> id just didnt show up I did do it
[01:14] <arrick> ill do it again though if you want me too
[01:14] <dyrne> ifdev: bear in mind grub starts at 0 not 1 so hda1 is hd0,0
[01:14] <_jason> arrick: what does 'echo $CC' say?
[01:14] <trappist> Cyorxamp: that'd be great
[01:14] <arrick> not found
[01:14] <arrick> sorry, typo
[01:15] <arrick> it dowsnt say anything
[01:15] <ifdev> dyrne: so root(hd3,9) for hdd10?
[01:15] <Cyorxamp> trappist - http://pastebin.com/627799
[01:15] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know of any Video DVD Authoring with burning programs for linux?
[01:15] <_jason> arrick: that means 'export CC=gcc-3.4' didn't get set, can you try again?
[01:15] <Cyorxamp> trappist - that is the last dozen or so lines in the log from when I tried to print an image
[01:15] <Cyorxamp> trappist - I set the LogLevel in the config file from info to debug in the hopes of getting more information
[01:16] <arrick> ok
[01:16] <_jason> arrick: if you do that command I gave you before all on one line with the && included, it should work
[01:16] <trappist> Cyorxamp: debug2 is even more verbose if that's not enough, but lemme look...
[01:16] <arrick> all the command, startint with yeah
[01:16] <arrick> ok
[01:17] <yessy_13> DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[01:17] <arrick> ok thats done
[01:17] <arrick> echo $CC shows gcc-3.4
[01:17] <fiendskull9> arrick, whats up man
[01:17] <trappist> Cyorxamp: I sure don't see anything helpful in that log :/
[01:18] <_jason> arrick: ok now ./configure
[01:18] <Cyorxamp> trappist - me neither, what do you suggest?
[01:18] <arrick> friendskull9, not much
[01:18] <arrick> ok
[01:18] <_jason> arrick: ok now make
[01:18] <fiendskull9> arrick, fie <tab> to get my name right :P
[01:18] <rishi> whats up all
[01:18] <arrick> fiendskull9, I hit the r by accident
[01:19] <trappist> Cyorxamp: bump your LogLevel up to debug2
[01:19] <rishi> fiendskull9: whatup
[01:19] <trappist> Cyorxamp: and paste the entire section of the log relating to the job (job 5 in the previous case)
[01:19] <rishi> does anyone use a del 700m here?
[01:19] <rishi> dell
[01:19] <arrick> ok _jason
[01:19] <arrick> next
[01:19] <_jason> arrick: ok now sudo checkinstall
[01:20] <arrick> ok done, now what?
[01:20] <_jason> arrick: now try beep
[01:20] <arrick> ok
[01:20] <_jason> arrick: your computer is fast... want to trade?
[01:20] <rishi> how do i get the WDSL for google in the DeskBar?
[01:21] <k31th> Seems bzip2'ing 40 gigs of small files strains this celeron D 2.5ghz hard :p
[01:21] <arrick> _jason, same message
[01:21] <_jason> arrick: you have to be kidding
[01:21] <_jason> :)
[01:21] <Eleaf> ?
[01:21] <arrick> hang on, I'm gonna do it again, cause I didnt realize thet it was still open when I was doing all that before
[01:22] <_jason> arrick: just close beep and open it again
[01:22] <rishi> no one knows how to get the WDSL thing in Desk Bar?
[01:23] <Guestakkio> hi
[01:23] <Cyorxamp> trappist - yeah I am trying to but gEdit sucks donkey dick when it comes to reading it quickly :s
[01:23] <Guestakkio> qualcuno parla italiano?
[01:23] <rishi> !language
[01:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[01:23] <Cyorxamp> trappist-  I noticed a few bits at the start of the log too - want those too?
[01:23] <_jason> !it
[01:23] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:24] <arrick> _jason, by the way this is my slow computer
[01:24] <trappist> Cyorxamp: couldn't heart
[01:24] <_jason> arrick: is it working now?
[01:24] <trappist> err
[01:24] <trappist> couldn't hurt
[01:24] <sHaDe> night all
[01:24] <arrick> _Jason should I make clean before make?
[01:25] <_jason> arrick: did you try just closing beep and opening it again?
[01:25] <arrick> yeah
[01:26] <bubblebuddy> hi
[01:26] <corwin> I need some help with pure-ftpd, if anyone wouldn't mind, it seems I have everything set up okay, including the forwarded port range, but when I connect to my FTP remotely, it connects then tells me it sent the command PASV, then it disconects and says timeout detected
[01:26] <bubblebuddy> whats the main porpus of this
[01:27] <_jason> arrick: ok, we have to be missing something because it worked just fine here...  I want you to enter exactly this and then pastebin it if it still doesn't work: 'make clean && export CC=gcc-3.4 && ./configure && sudo checkinstall'
[01:27] <Cyorxamp> ok trappist - I am uploading it to cyorxamp.info/error_log
[01:27] <trappist> corwin: you need to modprobe ip_nat_ftp on the machine it's forwarded through
[01:27] <FlannelKing>  bubblebuddy main purpose of what?
[01:27] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know of any Video DVD Authoring with burning programs for linux?
[01:27] <trappist> corwin: and say iptables -I FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[01:27] <arrick> ok
[01:28] <trappist> Cyorxamp: looks empty
[01:28] <arrick> _jason, this is the last line 'checking for bmp >= 0.9.7... configure: error: BMP >= 0.9.7 development package not installed
[01:28] <arrick> '
[01:28] <_jason> arrick: install it
[01:28] <rishi> haha
[01:28] <arrick> ok
[01:28] <Cyorxamp> trappist - it's still uploading :S
[01:28] <arrick> is that the .dev from earlier?
[01:28] <corwin> trappist: it still disconnects
[01:28] <_jason> arrick: beep-media-player-dev
[01:29] <wd3> how do i automount my cd and dvd?
[01:29] <trappist> corwin: are you using port 21 all the way through?
[01:29] <trappist> corwin: also, what port range?
[01:29] <arrick> _jason, 'sudo apt-get beep-media-player-dev' right?
[01:29] <MrRio> hey, i have a local subversion server, how do i allow anonymous read/write to this?
[01:30] <arrick> it says invalid operation
[01:30] <MrRio> read is good
[01:30] <_jason> arrick: sudo aptitude install beep-media-player-dev
[01:30] <MrRio> just won't let me write
[01:30] <arrick> ok
[01:30] <corwin> trappist: There was already someone forwarding ports for some win ftp that didn't blow over, so I just edited the table a litle to forward 21-21 and the FTP Pasv was set up to 4000-6500 on the other box, so I just switched it to mine
[01:31] <juztin> where do i change my icon theme at?
[01:31] <Cyorxamp> hey trappist - I'm gonna start over by deleting this error-log file and resending the job
[01:31] <Cyorxamp> the file is 2mb!
[01:31] <rishi> arrick: why do you want BMP?
[01:31] <corwin> trappist: Actually, PASV is the command filezilla is running that disconnects it, maybe the Pasv ports are wrong?
[01:31] <dyrne> MrRio: i have no idea about subversion but its normally a config file under /etc/ and an entry to allow write access
[01:31] <arrick> yeah
[01:31] <_jason> arrick: ?
[01:31] <arrick> _jason, I got it installed, now do it all over again?
[01:31] <MrRio> dyrne: yeah, i added some entries to apache to serve this up properly
[01:31] <trappist> corwin: oh my.  you'll have to either undo that or modprobe ip_nat_ftp with some arguments to tell it what pasv ports to use
[01:31] <_jason> arrick: now enter that long command I gave you again
[01:31] <polpak> juztin, System->Preferences->Theme
[01:32] <arrick> ok
[01:32] <corwin> trappist: do you know the defaults for pure-ftpd? It would save me messing with network configuration, something I'm horrible at.
[01:32] <FlannelKing> MrRio: you'll want to setup a dav_svn.authz file.
[01:33] <FlannelKing> MrRio: where you can set user level permissions for r/w, and you can just allow right to everyone.
[01:33] <Cyorxamp> trappist - I deleted error_log and sent a print job - and it doesnt seem to have re-made error_log :S
[01:33] <Cyorxamp> This is just plain retarded
[01:33] <trappist> corwin: I'm pretty sure the defaults are universal among standards-compliant ftp servers.  I run pure-ftpd at home and I don't mess with ports.  I just let the kernel's conntrack helper do its job.
[01:33] <FlannelKing> MrRio: well, assuming you're going through apache, which I think you just mentioned.
[01:33] <trappist> Cyorxamp: usually you want to echo "" > error_log instead of deleting it
[01:34] <Cyorxamp> like "copy con error_log" + cntl+Z in DOS :P
[01:34] <arrick> _jason, It asks me if I want to list files that are inside the home directory? yes or no?
[01:34] <_jason> arrick: just press enter for all the questions
[01:34] <arrick> ok
[01:34] <corwin> trappist: do you have any ports forwarded through your router for pasv?
[01:34] <_jason> arrick: you should read them though, and ask me if you want to understand what they mean
[01:35] <arrick> thats the first itme it asked me those questions
[01:35] <_jason> arrick: good :)
[01:35] <trappist> corwin: is the "router" here a linux box or something else?
[01:35] <arrick> now what do I do?
[01:35] <Cyorxamp> trappist - just keeps saying 'permission denied' when I try that command
[01:35] <_jason> arrick: now try beep.  This time please remember to cross your fingers
[01:35] <corwin> trappist: syslink 4-port cat 5 box router
[01:35] <arrick> ok
[01:35] <trappist> Cyorxamp: yeah you have to be root (sudo won't cut it)
[01:36] <arrick> Hey it added them
[01:36] <trappist> corwin: oh, I can't help you with that.  linux knows how to forward all traffic associated with an ftp connection if you just forward 21.  I dunno about your router.
[01:36] <arrick> and played, thanks Jason
[01:36] <_jason> arrick: great, see we forgot the finger crossing before
[01:36] <Cyorxamp> trappist - whats the command for making a root password - I forget
[01:36] <arrick> yeah
[01:36] <trappist> corwin: you could try forwarding 20 too - that's the command port
[01:36] <Cyorxamp> trappist - what I did do instead was get gEdit to make an empty file called error_log - will that not do?
[01:37] <corwin> trappist: lol, okay. I'll try that
[01:37] <trappist> Cyorxamp: just say sudo su -
[01:37] <arrick> helps if all the peices are there
[01:37] <trappist> well I'm out fellas - good luck to ya
[01:37] <amorphous_> hiya!
[01:37] <rishi> has anyone tried to install BMPx?
[01:38] <Cyorxamp> trappist 'sudo su echo "" > error_log' gives permission denied
[01:38] <amorphous_> Anyone know anything about Quota?
[01:39] <Cyorxamp> ok nm done it
[01:39] <Cyorxamp> trappist - ok I can the echo thing as proper root... sent my print job and the error_log is still empty
[01:40] <hope> hey room
[01:40] <amorphous_> no? am I to believe nobody here uses Quota?
[01:40] <rishi> haha
[01:40] <Cyorxamp> trappist - nm I restarted cupsys and now I'm getting something
[01:40] <rishi> i'm not getting anything either amorphous_
[01:41] <amorphous_> Hmm... they don't like talking to strangers in here much, rishi...
[01:41] <void^> bah, there is nothing worse than slightly defective memory.
[01:41] <MrRio> FlannelKing: I've made a dav_svn.authz file, pointed to it in my apache config, i can turn turn read access on and off, but still can'twrite to it
[01:41] <amorphous_> well... i say that...
[01:41] <wd3> what's the easiest way to automount my cdrw and dvdrw?
[01:41] <MrRio> FlannelKing, done * = rw
[01:41] <amorphous_> in retrospect it's probably just me being paranoid
[01:42] <rishi> amorphous_: agreed
[01:42] <FlannelKing> MrRio: no idea, ask over at #svn, they should know.
[01:42] <blrich_> can someone tell me where I set my PATH in ubuntu?
[01:42] <blrich_> /etc/profile?
[01:42] <rishi> amorphous_: agreed about the not talking to strangers part, not the you're paranoid
[01:43] <Cyorxamp> ok uploading file to pastebin now trappist
[01:43] <arrick> Hey, how do I add a folder full of folders to to enter in the files for beep?
[01:43] <amorphous_> rishi - used to be ok for newbies, but nowa days theres only a few that will lower themselves to helping us mere mortals... :(
[01:43] <DJ_Tobias> how do you start a computer if its not plugged into the case and you cant push the button?
[01:43] <arrick> rishi,
[01:44] <rishi> arrick: ?
[01:44] <amorphous_> rishi - the few that do though are worth waiting for ;)
[01:44] <arrick> rishi, I have a folder full of folders that hold all my songs, how do I enter them all in the beep library?
[01:44] <rishi> amorphous_: agreed, there are a few who are amazing
[01:45] <rishi> arrick: i have no idea, i was trying to figure out why your trying to get beep...are you using bmp or bmpx?
[01:45] <amorphous_> yeah - can sort out anything with just a sniff of a symptom...
[01:45] <amorphous_> rishi -= but not i...
[01:45] <arrick> I am using beep media player to play my wma files
[01:45] <amorphous_> rishi - is beep small?
[01:45] <blrich_> /etc/profile?
[01:46] <blrich_> can someone tell me where I set my PATH in ubuntu?
[01:46] <amorphous_> blrich - it's a variable....
[01:46] <lowroad> hi, I just installed InitNG and my boot time is a LOT faster.  but problem is, now my networkmanager (nm-applet) doesn't start up in the taskbar and my wireless connection isn't on by default, any thought?
[01:46] <rishi> amorphous_: beep is like winamp...but the developers recently dropped beep to work on its successor, BMPx
 can someone tell me where I set my PATH in ubuntu?  <-- DefaultPath  on  gdm.conf
[01:46] <rishi> amorphous_: so they gave it to audacious
[01:46] <lowroad> nm-applet does show up in my system monitor though, but i cant get it to show up in my taskbar
[01:47] <arrick> lowroad, you can set your wireless to default by setting it up in network settings
[01:47] <amorphous_> blrich - assign it a value: ie PATH=$PATH;new_directory_to_add"
[01:47] <rishi> arrick: i thought rhythmbox player or totem can do that...i dunno how to move the files
[01:47] <blrich_> leonel, thanks =)
[01:47] <lowroad> arrick, my defualt gateway in network settings is set to wlan0
[01:47] <amorphous_> blrich_, that'll take the PATH var and add the new dir on the end of the list of paths...
[01:48] <lowroad> arrick, i think it's somehow related to why my network manager (nm-applet) wont show up either
[01:48] <amorphous_> you can show the var using:  echo $PATH
[01:48] <wd3> how do i run hal
[01:48] <gnomefreak> wd3: its running
[01:49] <wd3> gnomefreak, hey it's been a while how r u?
[01:49] <lowroad> hi, I just installed InitNG and my boot time is a LOT faster.  but problem is, now my networkmanager (nm-applet) doesn't start up in the taskbar and my wireless connection isn't on by default, any thought?
[01:49] <Sergi0> lowroad, hmm why initng?
[01:49] <blrich_> amorphous_, i'm just having trouble getting java apps to load with sun java 1.5 and i need my path to look like: PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$JAVA_HOME/jre/bin:$PATH
[01:49] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know of any Video DVD Authoring with burning programs for linux?
[01:49] <Cyorxamp> Can someone help me print?  I have the drivers and that set up in CUPS.
[01:49] <Cyorxamp> When I print something it gets classed as 'aborted' in the web admin page and when retrying it it just says client-error-not-possible
[01:49] <Cyorxamp> I set the config file LogLevel to debug2 and a copy of the log file can be found at http://cyorxamp.info/error_log.txt - Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[01:49] <lowroad> Sergi0, my boot took several minutes, wanted something faster.  had GREAT results with InitNG
[01:50] <amorphous_> blrich_,  - and does it work with the leonel thing?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> wd3: im good just working  on something
[01:50] <lowroad> Sergi0, my boot went from a couple of minutes (because it would always get stuck on the configuring network part of the boot, to 40-45 seconds
[01:50] <amorphous_> blrich_, gdm.conf?
[01:50] <purplefeltangel> i am on breezy and when i try to log in i get a REALLY weird error! it says something like "your $HOME/.drmi folder has insufficient permissions and will be ignored. this will prevent your language and session settings. this folder sould have 644 permissions." then the screen goes brown as if it's going to log in, but it goes back to the login screen.
[01:50] <Cyorxamp> trappist - if your still there - http://cyorxamp.info/error_log.txt
[01:51] <amorphous_> lowroad - you have a gateway set up on a network?
[01:51] <arrick> Help with Beep Media Player please?
[01:51] <Sergi0> lowroad, initng basicly works yes, but these are alot of isues like u have -and will have-   hack the initscript yourself :)
[01:51] <wd3> gnomefreak, basically i want to automount my cdr and dvdr. i have to go to disks mgr, enable them and read contents and play media. when i want to eject it doesn't. I have to disable, then eject. how can i automount them?
[01:51] <blrich_> amorphous_, well in gdm.conf it has the path setting lines commented and says they'll be overidden by startup scripts or /etc/default/login (doesn't exist)
[01:52] <gnomefreak> wd3: that i dont know all i know is hal should awalys be running ;)
[01:52] <lowroad> amorphous_, i dont know exactly what u mean, when i open up my network connections app under system, there's a pulldown bar at the bottom that says default gateway :  either eth0 or wlan0
[01:52] <lowroad> Sergi0, then is there anyway else to make my boot start faster, minutes are driving me crazy
[01:52] <amorphous_> blrich_,  - i'm a newbie really and know very little, but ~/.bashrc and ~/bashprofile are a good bet to get something in at startup...
[01:52] <wd3> gnomefreak, curious, what r u pushing?
[01:52] <scottyr> say blrich and amorphous, Thank y'all!!
[01:52] <lowroad> Sergi0, and it's always because of that network config step in the boot that freezes up my startup forever
[01:53] <Sergi0> lowroad, u got dhcp network then?
[01:53] <lowroad> Sergi0, yes
[01:54] <amorphous_> lowroad, i dont know what I mean either.... I'm trying to get my xp box to recognise my gateway - but trying to do it on a min install - no gnome... so it's a bit of a challenge...
 blrich_,  - and does it work with the leonel thing? <-- You need to restart  gdm
[01:54] <blrich_> amorphous_, i'll check it out
[01:55] <lowroad> Sergi0, i did end up getting my connection to work now.  im not sure how, but i ended up disabling my eth0 then re-enabling wlan0 then manually putting in my SSID (the wrong one was there by default)
[01:55] <Cyorxamp> I need help printing, drivers are installed in CUPS and when I send a job in the CUPS web page it shows as aborted, when clicking resend it says client-error-not-possible.  I set the CUPS config file LogLevel to debug2 and my error_log can be found at http://cyorxamp.info/error_log.txt - Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[01:55] <amorphous_> blrichyou see that leonel message? re: restart gdm....
[01:55] <lowroad> Sergi0, the main thing i'm confused about is why nm-applet wont start
[01:55] <lowroad> Sergi0, my network manager program wont start up, it says in my system monitor that it's sleeping but i cant get it to show up
[01:56] <rishi> aaaaah!
[01:56] <lowroad> amorphous_, sorry man, i wish i could help.  if i were more proficient with computers, i wouldn't have this problem =(
[01:56] <amorphous_> nm-applet
[01:56] <budluva> !dist-upgrade
[01:56] <ubotu> budluva: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:56] <budluva> !dapper
[01:56] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:56] <rishi> !dapper
[01:56] <amorphous_> lowroad, know that feelin' ;)
[01:56] <rishi> !upgrade
[01:56] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[01:57] <healot> importante Dapper is a buggy-ride
[01:57] <budluva> i've heard dapper supports my broadcom wireless out of the box, i have to give it a shot :P
[01:58] <orp> some one haked a hotspot ?
[01:58] <orp> wireless
[01:58] <WaterBottle> how can i get nautilius to read root folders?
[01:58] <healot> orp: that's an act of noobs :)
[01:58] <healot> but a good effort to learn network security
[01:58] <DJ_Tobias> anybody know how to turn on a computer without the case ?
[01:58] <healot> "/root", WaterBottle ?
[01:58] <healot> then sudo
[01:59] <void^> DJ_Tobias: use a screwdriver to connect the 2 pins you'd normally plug the power switch to
[01:59] <Sergi0> lowroad you could try to set the ip static, it will boot faster, the network startup script is waiting for something that isnt there at the moment
[01:59] <Sergi0> lowroad thereis a timeout 120 config /etc/init.d/networking, you could try something like 20 orso,
[02:00] <orp> ok i see the wiki but i ask for a router
[02:00] <lowroad> Sergi0, i switch between different networks is the problem
[02:00] <xanavim> is there an Ubuntu app which handles the protocol Funk uses, or otherwise can connect to a Funk Host?
[02:00] <lowroad> Sergi0, oh ok! that sounds like a good idea, thanks!
[02:00] <WaterBottle> healot, im not sure what you mean?
[02:00] <healot> neither do I understand what you mean
[02:00] <DJ_Tobias> void^, i thought there was more to it than that?
[02:00] <lowroad> Sergi0, what effect will shortening the time out have besides (hopefully) lessening boot time?
[02:01] <healot> "gksudo nautilius"
[02:01] <void^> DJ_Tobias: well, connect the power supply and cpu fan first:P
[02:01] <Dark_pahnt0m> ??
[02:01] <WaterBottle> is there no way to do it within nautilius?
[02:01] <Sergi0> lowroad if the dhcp/wireless gateway/network isnt sending you any info the network isnt up at boot, but if u used to the applet thingie then you can setup with that i think
[02:02] <Fear_linux_god> who told me 2 goto cedega
[02:02] <healot> WaterBottle: normal user to access "/root" no
[02:02] <budluva> anyone point me to a dapper dist-upgrade howto?
[02:02] <healot> unless you chmod "/root" to be readable by others
[02:02] <budluva> or just like always, change all breezy entries to dapper in my sources.list and apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:02] <lowroad> Sergi0, yeah, but i cant get my network manager to boot right now =(
[02:02] <Fear_linux_god> why use dapper?? sounds liek a pain, alot of ppl having problems with dapper
[02:03] <void^> it's bleeding edge!!11
[02:03] <Sergi0> lowroad isnt that because of initng?
[02:03] <Cyorxamp> I need help printing, drivers are installed in CUPS and when I send a job in the CUPS web page it shows as aborted, when clicking resend it says client-error-not-possible.  I set the CUPS config file LogLevel to debug2 and my error_log can be found at http://cyorxamp.info/error_log.txt - Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[02:03] <no0tic> best isn't included in dapper beagle package?
[02:03] <healot> Fear_linux_god: it's a testing release for the next version of [KX] ubuntu
[02:03] <lowroad> Sergi0, yes, so i'm trying to fix the boot so i can run the program
[02:04] <Fear_linux_god> I need 2 get cedega workign & the channel is full of morons who banned me for my nickname.. My name was not inapropreiate & the little reject banned me anyway
[02:04] <lowroad> Sergi0, i can't eve run it manually now, i type nm-applet into the terminal and it just lags there, another instance of nm-applet shows up in my system monitor but the program itself doesn't show up anywhere
[02:04] <The_Answer> just installed ubuntu new to linux I came home and my mom went to check her mail and firefox asked her to create a new user, well she did and now icons pop up on the desktop everytime I sign on mozilla, I already tried uninstalling it... any ideas?
[02:04] <Enthusiast78> How can I make rhytmbox show files based on their filenames and directories instead of that crappy information stored on them?
[02:04] <rishi> Fear_linux_god: what's the big thing with dapper, i haven't had any problems...it might be a lil slow...but that's it
[02:04] <Sergi0> lowroad, startup without initng
[02:04] <Sergi0> lowroad, using breezy?
[02:05] <matthias> Hi
[02:05] <Fear_linux_god> I have cedega running I need 2 get bloodscape 2 run on it, *nothing I just noticed alot of ppl using dapper has alot of errors
[02:05] <rishi> How do i remove a program i've installed?
[02:05] <Fear_linux_god> Yes I am using breezy
[02:05] <lowroad> Sergi0, without initng it's fine, everything works, but it takes too long so i installed initng.   Initng works GREAT except this problem.  Yes, usuing 5.10
[02:05] <Rubin> whats the name of that nifty tool that imprints a transparent shaded live updated 'tail -f' equivelent in gnome?
[02:05] <Fear_linux_god> I have cedega installed how do I get it 2 function? I instaleld the game but it will not run
[02:05] <_jason> rishi: how did you install it?
[02:06] <Sergi0> im been running the fight release dapper, from boot to desktop login isnt that long anymore, they speeded up alot
[02:06] <Rubin> (on the root window)
[02:06] <rishi> _jason: by apt-get
[02:06] <_jason> rishi: apt-get remove packagename
[02:06] <Fear_linux_god> me?? It was installed on kde using the GUI, its a shell scriot
[02:06] <healot> rishi: the most basic command "apt-get remove <packagename>", but for start, use synaptic
[02:06] <Fear_linux_god> scpript*
[02:06] <rishi> _jason: for real? that's awesome
[02:06] <The_Answer> just installed ubuntu (breezy badger) new to linux I came home and my mom went to check her mail and firefox asked her to create a new user, well she did and now icons pop up on the desktop everytime I sign on mozilla, I already tried uninstalling it... any ideas?
[02:06] <_jason> rishi: indeed
[02:07] <Cyorxamp> I need help printing, drivers are installed in CUPS and when I send a job in the CUPS web page it shows as aborted, when clicking resend it says client-error-not-possible.  I set the CUPS config file LogLevel to debug2 and my error_log can be found at http://cyorxamp.info/error_log.txt - Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[02:07] <rightcoast> The_Answer, what are some icon names?
[02:07] <rishi> _jason, healot: if i've installed something in apt-get, can i remove it via synaptic?
[02:07] <void^> yes
[02:07] <Fear_linux_god> yep yep
[02:07] <healot> The_Answer: just create a new user profile, so you and your mom wouldn't have to share your porn site history :)
[02:08] <The_Answer> haha lol
[02:08] <rightcoast> healot,  but why are all the icons created when he opens firefox
[02:08] <healot> it jusk ask for a profile... maybe because the default profile is locked...
[02:08] <healot> what icons?
[02:08] <rishi> void^: was that yes for me?
[02:09] <rightcoast> he said its creating a bunch of icons...
[02:09] <void^> rishi: yes
[02:09] <The_Answer> xul.mfasl localstore.rdf compreg.dat history.dat and many others
[02:09] <healot> The_Answer: well, just delete the folder ".firefox"
[02:09] <healot> dang a fresh restart all over :)
[02:10] <healot> "~/.mozilla/firefox/" to be exact
[02:12] <The_Answer> tx
[02:13] <WaterBottle> when i try to install applications using the Add Applications feature of ubuntu i get dependency errors
[02:13] <rishi> beep!
[02:13] <arrick> hey _jason is the vesion of bmp that I have bmpx or the old one?
[02:13] <_jason> arrick: just bmp
[02:13] <Riko> Can someone tell me how to make Ubuntu's package manager & Apt-get download programs from the web instead of trying to install from cd?
[02:14] <Cyorxamp> I need help printing, drivers are installed in CUPS and when I send a job in the CUPS web page it shows as aborted, when clicking resend it says client-error-not-possible.  I set the CUPS config file LogLevel to debug2 and my error_log can be found at http://cyorxamp.info/error_log.txt - Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[02:14] <rishi> arrick: that's what i was asking!
[02:14] <rishi> haha
[02:14] <arrick> how do I get BMPx?
[02:14] <arrick> oh ok
[02:14] <arrick> I didnt know
[02:14] <rishi> arrick: the BMPx is still in development...i dunno how to get it either
[02:14] <The_Answer> haha thx healot your a pimp
[02:14] <nrymiguel> my ubuntu only starts in Failsafe GNOME, help pls
[02:14] <rishi> healot is a pimp
[02:14] <Sergi0> Riko change the sources list, /etc/apt/sources.list or u can do that from within synaptic package-source, look for it
[02:14] <tristanmike> Riko: you need to edit your sources.list and comment out the cd line. "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" should be the first one, save it and run "apt-get update"
[02:15] <healot> I am wizard not a pimp
[02:15] <arrick> http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/BMPx_Homepage
[02:15] <Riko> thanks guys!
[02:15] <vladuz976> what does ACLOCAL_FLAGS do ?
[02:15] <dyrne> arrick: no one needs anything but mplayer. hippie
[02:15] <shrewduser> anyone know an IRC where i can ask about java???
[02:15] <rishi> how bout a pimp wizard
[02:15] <healot> try #java maybe?
[02:15] <healot> or you can ask me?
[02:16] <rishi> oh shit, i do have a big question
[02:16] <rishi> healot: i installed flash, but i can't see text, what's up with that?
[02:16] <BWD> can someone tell how to download the source code .deb for xchat?
[02:16] <BWD> or how to apt-get that
[02:16] <WaterBottle> for instance when i try to install vlc i get a cannot install error
[02:16] <shrewduser> ta healot, brb....
[02:16] <healot> Cyorxamp: a network printer?
[02:16] <nrymiguel> my ubuntu only starts in Failsafe GNOME, help pls
[02:16] <Cyorxamp> No, local
[02:16] <WaterBottle> what repositories are needed for synaptic to work?
[02:17] <tristanmike> BWD: Applications-Internet-Xchat
[02:17] <healot> rishi: which flash? the ubuntu's GPL, or the official Flash player?
[02:17] <rishi> waterbottle: there are no specific repos
[02:17] <rishi> healot: i think its the official flash...i went on the wiki
[02:17] <arrick> whos a hippie
[02:17] <siriusnova> hello
[02:17] <arrick> I play wma, and mplayer wont plat them for me
[02:17] <WaterBottle> I seem to be getting all sorts of unresolvable dependencies when trying to use Synaptic
[02:17] <siriusnova> is there any way i can update x.org in 5.10 to x.org 6.9 ?
[02:17] <_jason> arrick: install w32codecs
[02:17] <BWD> tristanmike, yes i understand where to find the application. i mean, where can i download the source code .deb? i need to modify xchat for something. where at in the deb-src repository is it?
[02:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell arrick about w32codecs
[02:18] <healot> WaterBottle: you need to expand your repository to "main universe multiverse"
[02:18] <arrick> I already did thats Why i went to beep remember _jason
[02:18] <tristanmike> BWD: sorry, misunderstood, my apologies
[02:18] <Raul654> I need to install the f95 fortran compiler
[02:18] <_jason> arrick: my mplayer plays wma
[02:18] <healot> rishi: what site and what kind version of flash movie are you trying to play
[02:18] <siriusnova> because i cant get dri to work on my radeon 7500 Mobility in my ibm thinkpad t30
[02:18] <siriusnova> help pls :(
[02:18] <WaterBottle> healot, how would io do that?
[02:18] <Raul654> how do I tell what package that's in?
[02:19] <healot> if it is for Flash 8? you may get some errors, as the Flash player is version 7, rishi
[02:19] <Raul654> sudo apt-get install ---what--- ?
[02:19] <siriusnova> glxinfo shows that dri is not enabled
[02:19] <rishi> waterbottle: hit gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:19] <healot> WaterBottle: type "!repos"
[02:19] <Sergi0> Raul654 try seach with synaptic
[02:19] <rishi> that too
[02:19] <Raul654> Sergio - I am doing this remoately
[02:19] <Raul654> remotely, even
[02:19] <rishi> Healot: the package is the flashplugin-nonfree
[02:19] <Raul654> (from a non-ubuntu system)
[02:19] <healot> with a "sudo" first, WaterBottle "sudo"
[02:19] <Sergi0> Raul654, then seach local, install remote :P
[02:20] <rishi> healot: and i was going to a game on newgrounds.com
[02:20] <healot> rishi: it's version 7, maybe the flash movie was for Flash 8...
[02:20] <rishi> healot: oh snap: do i just need to upgrade?
[02:20] <Cyorxamp> I need help printing, drivers are installed in CUPS and when I send a job in the CUPS web page it shows as aborted, when clicking resend it says client-error-not-possible.  I set the CUPS config file LogLevel to debug2 and my error_log can be found at http://cyorxamp.info/error_log.txt - Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[02:20] <WaterBottle> ah i figured it out using synaptic, thanks!
[02:21] <healot> flash version 8 for linux isn't available yet, I think, rishi
[02:21] <siriusnova> is there any way to update to x.org 6.9 in Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[02:21] <arrick> >
[02:21] <healot> so gotta switch to a different browser, most for windows, you know what I mean
[02:21] <rishi> healot: really?  so there will be some flash thingies that i can't see
[02:21] <Raul654> anyway, does anyone know the name of hte package to apt-get to install f95?
[02:21] <rishi> healot: i don't actually know what you mean? i'm using mozilla right now
[02:22] <healot> siriusnova: if you have the packages for xorx 6.9... you may uninstalled the whole ubuntu's X or just upgrade?
[02:22] <rishi> Raul654: check in synaptic to see if its there
[02:22] <Raul654> rishi - as I said, I am doing this remotely and don't have an X connection to the machine
[02:22] <siriusnova> healot - i dont have the packages, i just want to upgrade
[02:22] <healot> rishi: I was talking about the movie.... some Flash movie is for Shockwave/Flash 8
[02:22] <siriusnova> because my radeon 7500 mobility and dri dont work
[02:22] <siriusnova> and apparently work in 6.9
[02:22] <siriusnova> :(
[02:23] <healot> the default Flash 7 for ubuntu/all GNU/Linux cannot support/display some Flash 8 movies well, rishi
[02:23] <rishi> healot: which only windows browsers have...i see what you mean
[02:23] <healot> siriusnova: try PCLinuxOS, they have xorg 6.9
[02:23] <rishi> healot:hmm...i shall research into this more, gimme a sec
[02:24] <siriusnova> id much prefer Ubuntu healot lol
[02:24] <siriusnova> if therre was a way to add a repository that will allow me to update to x.org 6.9 id be happy
[02:24] <healot> well, for now, go for Dapper... siriusnova, but it is a testing version, not officially supported though
[02:24] <siriusnova> how do i update to dapper from 5.10
[02:24] <healot> apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:24] <siriusnova> aside from installing from scratch ;p
[02:25] <siriusnova> what repository do i have to enable?
[02:25] <ubuntu> I just booted from the live CD, can anyone tell me what they think about this?
[02:25] <healot> but ,may brake your breezy, I recommend fresh CD install, at different partition...
[02:25] <healot> siriusnova: just replace "breezy" to "dapper"
[02:25] <rishi> !tell siriusnova about upgrade
[02:25] <healot> hehe
[02:25] <Sergi0> ubuntu ehm, what do you think?
[02:26] <ubuntu> so far it is running very smooth
[02:26] <BobC2> Hi, I was wondering if Ubunto comes with a news reader?
[02:26] <ubuntu> but what about driver issues?
[02:26] <healot> ubuntu: there isn't anything wrong with booting LiveCD
[02:26] <ubuntu> or aplication issues?
[02:27] <healot> infact it's a good start, you can copy most config file to another disk and save it later for a  full install
[02:27] <Cyorxamp> I need help printing, drivers are installed in CUPS and when I send a job in the CUPS web page it shows as aborted, when clicking resend it says client-error-not-possible.  I set the CUPS config file LogLevel to debug2 and my error_log can be found at http://cyorxamp.info/error_log.txt - Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[02:28] <ubuntu> has anyone tried a dual boot with this?
[02:28] <shrewduser> what does "You need to be identified to join that channel" mean?
[02:28] <Sergi0> ubuntu specific isue u having then? its running from cd, so its alot slower than normal, but you can acces almost everything (if not all)
[02:28] <healot> duel boot with?
[02:28] <FlannelKing> shrewduser: you have to identify with nickserv
[02:28] <rishi> ubuntu: i used to dual boot with windows
[02:28] <rishi> its great
[02:28] <ubuntu> ubuntu
[02:28] <healot> shrewduser: you need to register a nick. identify before joining a channel :)
[02:29] <rishi> ubuntu: i stopped though, because ubuntu is badass.
[02:29] <_SD_Keo> Hello, I need to re-do the Xorg configs after I got a new graphics card, anyone care to help?
[02:29] <rishi> HEAR HEAR!
[02:29] <rishi> haha
[02:29] <shrewduser> thanks guys, does that mean with freenode or with the particular channel??
[02:29] <rishi> with freenode
[02:29] <shrewduser> ta muchly :)
[02:29] <healot> we do... duel boot [XK] |"edu"ubuntu with Windows
[02:29] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know about the .lang files gedit uses?
[02:30] <FrankO> ok, has anyone done a dual boot using this OS?
[02:30] <rishi> haha
[02:30] <_SD_Keo> Using Ubuntu?
[02:30] <pianoboy3333> Me!
[02:30] <rishi> FrankO: we were just talking about it
[02:30] <FrankO> yeah
[02:30] <FlannelKing> FrankO: what other OS?
[02:30] <rishi> FrankO: i dual boot with windows
[02:30] <iGotNoTime> yes FrankO with XP
[02:30] <FrankO> ok, that would be what I was talking about
[02:30] <_SD_Keo> I'm using ubuntu with a broken (not suprising) XP install
[02:30] <ana> Cyorxamp, i have not much idea with ubuntu but as far as a HP 400 is concerned, there is no hope... issue has been reported to the relevant forum already and there is no solution yet. but if your printer is competely different... just go on trying ;-)
[02:30] <healot> there is two ways... first let ubuntu take over your MBR... or just let Windows NT loader do that
[02:30] <FrankO> but with an actual install, not the live D right?
[02:31] <FrankO> *CD
[02:31] <iGotNoTime> After only a month though you feel confident enough to run only this
[02:31] <iGotNoTime> you would be surprised how capable wine is
[02:31] <healot> wine gets you drunk
[02:31] <FlannelKing> FrankO: a liveCD doesn't really count as dual booting.
[02:31] <Cyorxamp> ana - it is a Lexmark I3 - but like I said... drivers are already installed
[02:31] <iGotNoTime> healot that's what I am saying
[02:31] <FrankO> I know that, just wasn't sure if everyone else did
[02:31] <rishi> FrankO: the liveCD isn't a real HD boot
[02:31] <iGotNoTime> gives confidence :P
[02:31] <_SD_Keo> Oh cedega is the bomb for gamers.. If you're willing to pay
[02:31] <BobC2> Does anyone know if there is a News Reader (News Groups) for Unbuntu?
[02:31] <FrankO> ok, I know that
[02:31] <ana> yeah drivers are already installed with ubuntu for hp400 and it's not working
[02:31] <iGotNoTime> I only run XP if I NEED dreamweaver
[02:32] <FrankO> no graphics issues?
[02:32] <rishi> FrankO: if your thinking about it, install xp then ubuntu..cuz its easiest
[02:32] <iGotNoTime> none for me on any of the three cards I have
[02:32] <rishi> FrankO: none that i've ever seen
[02:32] <_SD_Keo> Frank0, it is
[02:32] <iGotNoTime> none on the laptop either
[02:32] <rishi> iGotNoTime: what laptop?
[02:32] <FlannelKing> BobC2: there are plenty, searching for "newgroup" in synaptic reveals about 20 entries.
[02:32] <iGotNoTime> Averatec 3200 series
[02:32] <rishi> nice! how do you like those
[02:32] <FlannelKing> BobC2: of course, a few of them are libraries and daemons, but there are clients in there too
[02:32] <Sergi0> _SH_Keo does it the job it should do cadega, im not a fan of paying for software but for my little brother is might do the trick
[02:33] <me2win> anybody know if there is a way to change your inet addr?
[02:33] <iGotNoTime> rishi: awesome! best one I have owned yet out of 6
[02:33] <FrankO> who's running 64 bit processors?
[02:33] <healot> FrankO: i am on Athlon XP 64
[02:33] <rishi> iGotNoTime: for real?  they are pretty cheap too, i saw them at BB for just a few hundred
[02:33] <BobC2> FlannelKing  Ahhhh OK  my third day with Linux (Ubuntu)
[02:33] <iGotNoTime> rishi: horrible paint job though, my palms have worn the siler down to the base plastic white LOL
[02:33] <healot> running Kubuntu 64
[02:33] <_SD_Keo> Alright I need to fix my GLX issues..
[02:33] <rishi> iGotNoTime: aren't they made to resemble a mac kinda?
[02:33] <iGotNoTime> silver*
[02:34] <FlannelKing> BobC2: heh, um, I don't knwo of one offhand, but yeah, best place to look is well, the forums, but if you want straight from source, go to synaptic, and try searchign for stuff ;)
[02:34] <iGotNoTime> the weight resembles a mac :P
[02:34] <FrankO> so ubuntu isn't 64 bit compatible?
[02:34] <neighborhoodNerd> me2win: do u have a static ip you want to change?
[02:34] <rishi> iGotNoTimeHA
[02:34] <healot> YES... it is x86_64 compatible
[02:34] <rishi> FrankO: there is an x64 version
[02:34] <FrankO> ok
[02:34] <iGotNoTime> If you are looking for a laptop I highly suggest giving them a shot
[02:34] <FrankO> still all free?
[02:34] <iGotNoTime> My next one will be their tablet
[02:34] <rishi> iGotNoTime: i'm always looking for one...i am a big nerd
[02:35] <me2win> neighborhoodNerd, i just want to switch from .101 to .100
[02:35] <rishi> iGotNoTime: my brother got the x41 tablet...SUCKS
[02:35] <iGotNoTime> of course FrankO :)
[02:35] <FlannelKing> BobC2: if the info about the package (oh, you'll probably want to turn package info on, in synaptic settings, to see details of the packages) and then google about the apps themselves, if they don't list a URL
[02:35] <BobC2> FlannelKing I tried adding help form there for Gimp last night ..no joy..but the CLI worked after coming her to ask how
[02:35] <FrankO> of course you say
[02:35] <FrankO> lol
[02:35] <FrankO> Toshiba makes a good laptop
[02:35] <siriusnova> !ubotu apt
[02:35] <ubotu> methinks apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[02:35] <neighborhoodNerd> me2win ... from the system menu-> administration -> networking?
[02:35] <iGotNoTime> rishi: the battery-life ain't too bad either, running Edubuntu I get almost 3:20
[02:36] <siriusnova> what was the website for the apt sources.list generator?
[02:36] <healot> IBM gives better Linux compatibilities
[02:36] <siriusnova> !ubotu sources.lst
[02:36] <FrankO> really?
[02:36] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, siriusnova
[02:36] <BobC2> FlannelKing OK thanks... I'll poke around just needed a hint lol
[02:36] <siriusnova> !ubotu sources.list
[02:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:36] <rishi> iGotNoTime: that's pretty good
[02:36] <healot> apt-setup is enough, siriusnova
[02:36] <tristanmike> !sources
[02:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:36] <iGotNoTime> I liked my Toshiba, but it was HEAVY in comparison
[02:36] <healot> should I say Lenovo :)
[02:36] <rishi> iGotNoTime: i have a dell 700m right now...i'm still on windows, trying to figure out if i can put ubuntu on it without problems
[02:36] <FrankO> but they are very reliable though
[02:36] <FrankO> so I have found anyway
[02:36] <iGotNoTime> looking back the toshiba felt like I was lugging around my desktop LOL
[02:36] <iGotNoTime> but yes it ran well :)
[02:36] <rishi> haha
[02:37] <healot> iGotNoTime: you'd say "Damn Japanese"
[02:37] <rishi> healot: lenovo is crap.
[02:37] <healot> btw, ubuntu questions please :)
[02:37] <iGotNoTime> healot: :P
[02:37] <iGotNoTime> yes :)
[02:37] <siriusnova> healot - there was a website that generated a sources.lst
[02:37] <iGotNoTime> sorry for going off topic
[02:37] <HaRaGno> Esto esta bueno
[02:37] <HaRaGno> Bye
[02:37] <rishi> healot: does ubuntu have support for tablets?
[02:37] <iGotNoTime> it was sort of related :P
[02:37] <_SD_Keo> Alright I need to fix my GLX issues.. Someone help or I'll sick my zerglings on you..
[02:37] <FrankO> is ubuntu easy to wear?
[02:37] <_jason> !easysource
[02:37] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:37] <FrankO> does it go with anything?
[02:38] <MrRio> /usr/lib/mount.davfs-2.6: You must be member of group users
[02:38] <FrankO> lol
[02:38] <rishi> Frank0: it chafes in the crotch a little, but its pretty comfy
[02:38] <MrRio> Unfortunatly, I already am a member a group 'users'
[02:38] <FrankO> ok cool
[02:38] <FrankO> ty
[02:38] <iGotNoTime> great question rishi, I know Xandros does but never asked about ubuntu
[02:38] <healot> rishi... yeah, there are some non-free drivers for those
[02:38] <_jason> MrRio: if you recently added yourself you may need to logout and login
[02:38] <MrRio> _jason: oh ok
[02:38] <healot> or free, which I can't recall
[02:38] <rishi> healot, for tablet support?  where can i look that stuff up?
[02:39] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know of any Video DVD Authoring with burning programs for linux?
[02:39] <healot> what kind of tablet? wavelet?
[02:39] <iGotNoTime> I think free, since Xandros doesn't charge and they have commercial releases
[02:39] <rishi> healot: i dunno, its whatever the lenovo uses
[02:39] <iGotNoTime> I am sure you could find something
[02:39] <FrankO> well, I just recieved 20 sets of the CDs today and this is my first time trying ubuntu
[02:39] <healot> great
[02:39] <chs_> why did you order 20 then?
[02:40] <k31th> Wat would you guys use to tar up 40 gigs of dirs & files ? bzip2 ?
[02:40] <FrankO> lots faster and smoother than microshot
[02:40] <healot> liveCD first... preferred
[02:40] <rishi> !tablet
[02:40] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rishi
[02:40] <FrankO> I own a computer store
[02:40] <lullabud> bzip2 would be a good choice.
[02:40] <iGotNoTime> FrankO I think you should stick with this one.... It is one of the best ranked distros out there now
[02:40] <healot> FrankO: two different platform with two different approach, technically uncomparable
[02:40] <rishi> healot, where can i find out more about the tablet support, wiki?
[02:40] <iGotNoTime> certainly the best community of support, very friendly and willing to help when you need it
[02:40] <FrankO> cool
[02:40] <dyrne> FrankO: maybe create an image with codec support installed
[02:41] <rishi> yeah...ubuntu is great for help...when you can get nice people to help you
[02:41] <healot> yeah... ubuntu's wiki, as I don't own any tablet, I havent look for that yet
[02:41] <iGotNoTime> FrankO we even are at the top of the download list on distro-watch
[02:41] <iGotNoTime> woo hoo
[02:42] <iGotNoTime> I think I over did it :D
[02:42] <_SD_Keo> HOLY SHIT MY MONITOR IS EXPLODING BECAUSE NOBODY IS HELPING MY WITH MY GLX PROBLEM!
[02:42] <iGotNoTime> anyway back to reading the benefits of using XP   LOL
[02:42] <iGotNoTime> I'll be back soon it is only a couple lines :)
[02:42] <Toma-> _SD_Keo: no-one will help you when you use caps >_>
[02:43] <Joetheodd> _SD_Keo: Please refrain from using profanity and all caps in this channel.
[02:43] <rishi> iGotNoTime: what rock did you find that under?
[02:43] <rishi> haha
[02:43] <lullabud> _SD_Keo: and when nobody helps you you can always help yourself...
[02:43] <healot> _SD_Keo: GLX is a testing version, use it at your own risk
[02:43] <_SD_Keo> This room is like whispering at a rock concert, I've been in here for about 10 minutes asking
[02:43] <healot> they said so in their license :)
[02:43] <_SD_Keo> Blah, n00b hour's still going.
[02:43] <Toma-> glx isnt testing... xgl is
[02:43] <iGotNoTime> rishi: it was on one of those For Dummies sites, found it on MSN search engine LOL
[02:43] <lullabud> _SD_Keo: actually, i think this room is more like the kitchen of 420 paper street when project mayhem was doing their thing.
[02:43] <FlannelKing> glx is ATIs drivers.  And he's gone already.
[02:44] <rishi> iGotNoTime: ZING!  XP: 0  iGotNoTime: 1
[02:44] <FlannelKing> he really should be complaining to ATI though, it's their fault.
[02:44] <iGotNoTime> Hello HedgeMage :)
[02:44] <void^> glx is opengl extensions. fglrx is ati's driver.
[02:44] <iGotNoTime> hehe
[02:44] <lullabud> he really shouldn't be complaining at all, it's free software and free support when you can get it.
[02:44] <healot> nevermind... ATi/Nvidia sucked at release proprietary drivers, it tainted the kernel hard
[02:44] <Toma-> someone should have told him to get a refund
[02:44] <brandon3> i need help installing my ubuntu
[02:44] <rishi> hahaha
[02:44] <lullabud> hahaha
[02:44] <rishi> hahah
[02:44] <iGotNoTime> I get tons of support, I just come in as Lisa for support :)
[02:44] <Toma-> :)
[02:45] <lullabud> haha, nice iGotNoTime
[02:45] <rishi> iGotNoTime: GOOD CALL...how do i change my nick
[02:45] <dyrne> brandon3: what was the problem?
[02:45] <healot> "/nick newnick"
[02:45] <iGotNoTime> :D
[02:45] <rishi> i did that, it didn't work
[02:45] <brandon3> dyrne can i pm you?
[02:45] <brandon3> this is a rather lenghty issue
[02:45] <iGotNoTime> ./setnick ?
[02:45] <corwin> more problems with pure-ftpd... when I try to connect to my ftp locally, it connects just fine... but when I connect to it remotely, my FTP client tells me that it can't acces the directory listing and times out: http://pastebin.com/627911
[02:46] <babewithbigboobs> Helllooo boys
[02:46] <dyrne> brandon3: yes but your chances are better if you keep it in the channel
[02:46] <babewithbigboobs> hahaha
[02:46] <lullabud> hi babewithbigboobs !!
[02:46] <Firebird8> anyone know why my "there is an update" popups went away?
[02:46] <brandon3> alrighty well
[02:46] <BlueHeron> ./configure nick && make nick && sudo checkinstall nick
[02:46] <lullabud> babewithbigboobs: need tech support?!?!  *DROOOOOOL*
[02:46] <BlueHeron> :-P
[02:46] <meagain> hey there babewithbigboobsyou need any tech support?
[02:46] <Toma-> Firebird8: because you updated?
[02:46] <BlueHeron> LOOK AT ALL THE GEEKS
[02:46] <BlueHeron> YOU KNOW THATS A MAN
[02:46] <iGotNoTime> see how good that works!
[02:46] <lullabud> hahahaha
[02:46] <babewithbigboobs> haha YESS i do, and i will pay you back baby
[02:46] <babewithbigboobs> haha
[02:46] <jramsey> ok that does it; i am changing my nic so i get fast response
[02:46] <Firebird8> Toma-, no im updating thru the console cause it did not show up
[02:47] <rishi> jramsey: what's up
[02:47] <LesbianCockSmoke> k
[02:47] <LesbianCockSmoke> can i get some support
[02:47] <cesiel1993> k
[02:47] <iGotNoTime> LMAO
[02:47] <jramsey> i am kidding ... ubuntu life is good
[02:47] <iGotNoTime> I love this place
[02:47] <rishi> ditto
[02:47] <LesbianCockSmoke> let me stop b4 i get baned
[02:47] <iGotNoTime> haha
[02:47] <rishi> i still don't know how to get the GOOGLE WDSL for Desk Bar
[02:47] <BlueHeron> k thats better.
[02:47] <iGotNoTime> WDSL?
[02:47] <rishi> yeah
[02:47] <healot> dudes
[02:47] <iGotNoTime> rishi: what is that?
[02:47] <BlueHeron> WDSL whats that
[02:48] <cesiel1993> has anyone installed ventrilo on linux ?
[02:48] <rishi> iGotNoTime: lemme make sure i got it right
[02:48] <brandon3> when i start up my computer after my ubuntu is installed it asked me my login and passowrd in a dos looking like screen so i type in my password and junk and this comes up "ubuntu comes with no warratny, to the extent permitted by law then this comes up brandon@blk-224-139-212:~ and a blinking underscore
[02:48] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know about the .lang xml files gedit uses for syntax highlighting? How can I make gedit or some text editor read a .lang file that I made?
[02:48] <iGotNoTime> cesiel1993: not me I use TS
[02:48] <brandon3> and when i type yes all these y's go down my screen and it never stops
[02:48] <cesiel1993> oo
[02:48] <brandon3> im on the live version right now
[02:48] <corwin> I need some help with strange pure-ftpd issues: when I try to connect to my ftp locally, it connects just fine... but when I connect to it remotely, my FTP client tells me that it can't acces the directory listing and times out: http://pastebin.com/627911
[02:48] <useruser> brandon3: press control-c
[02:48] <iGotNoTime> scary huh brandon3 :)
[02:49] <healot> pianoboy3333: it's somewhere inside "~/.gedit" directory?
[02:49] <cesiel1993> IGotNoTime: Me and my friend have a gigantic ventrilo server that i needed
[02:49] <brandon3> all i have to do is press control-c?
[02:49] <cesiel1993> to get into
[02:49] <cesiel1993> u can do it on Cedega
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> healot: no
[02:49] <lullabud> hey, where'd that babe with the big boobs go?  i had to run to the bathroom real quick
[02:49] <useruser> brandon3: that'll stop the neverending y's
[02:49] <osiris> corwin, tried checking your firewalls
[02:49] <dyrne> brandon3: np that just means that its formatting your HD
[02:49] <lullabud> she didn't leave did she?!
[02:49] <cesiel1993> http://slinux.net/how-to-install-ventrilo-2-3-on-linux
[02:49] <BlueHeron> lullabud: she did
[02:49] <BlueHeron> *s*he
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> healot: /usr/share/gtksourceview-1.0/language-specs/
[02:49] <rishi> Healot, iGotNoTime, All: here's the thing, I am trying to add Google to the Desk bar, and when i highlight it, it says i need the Google WSDL file
[02:49] <lullabud> omg, she left as i came, how disappointing.
[02:49] <brandon3> but will my computer start? lol
[02:49] <corwin> osiris: none running. Could it have something to do with my port forwarding?
[02:49] <osiris> yep
[02:49] <healot> great, find it there then.... pianoboy3333
[02:49] <useruser> brandon3: it already has
[02:49] <brandon3> oh alrighty ill give it a try
[02:50] <iGotNoTime> cesiel1993: you mean want to install the server itself?
[02:50] <osiris> or router if aplicable
[02:50] <brandon3> thank you all i appreciate the help
[02:50] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > May someone PM me to help me?
[02:50] <iGotNoTime> rishi: I wish I could help, I have never heard of it, is it something you get from Google?
[02:50] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > Can someone help me?
[02:50] <pianoboy3333> healot: but how can I make a text editor read a .lang file I WROTE!
[02:50] <rishi> iGotNoTimei have no idea...i shall look into the gnome page
[02:50] <useruser> kpLaX[oldcomp] : can't you just ask your question?
[02:51] <btdown> yes it it...click on google search in the deskbar and click MORE button..it give you info on what to do
[02:51] <BlueHeron> pianoboy3333: is it plain text
[02:51] <lullabud> useruser: i think that was his question.
[02:51] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > my friend told me ubuntu is linux, and im dling it now, do i need it on a cd to install it?
[02:51] <pianoboy3333> BlueHeron: no, it's in the same xml format that the others are in
[02:51] <lullabud> kpLaX[oldcomp] : yes, somebody can help you.   next?
[02:51] <pianoboy3333> ...
[02:51] <BlueHeron> pianoboy3333: well open it then
[02:51] <kpLaX[oldcomp] >  hi
[02:51] <LadyNikon> has anyone reported any firefox crashes in breezy badger?
[02:51] <healot> XML files are text files...
[02:51] <BlueHeron> yea
[02:51] <BlueHeron> genious
[02:51] <useruser> kpLaX[oldcomp] : it's probably easiest if you burn it to a cd
[02:51] <Cyorxamp> I need help printing, drivers are installed in CUPS and when I send a job in the CUPS web page it shows as aborted, when clicking resend it says client-error-not-possible.  I set the CUPS config file LogLevel to debug2 and my error_log can be found at http://cyorxamp.info/error_log.txt - Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[02:51] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > my friend told me ubuntu is linux, and im dling it now, do i need it on a cd to install it?
[02:51] <osiris> kpLaX[oldcomp] , yes
[02:52] <healot> you can use a plain text editor... or any XML/HTML editor out there
[02:52] <Riko> what does it mean if my pc grinds to a halt practically when i load ndiswrapper with my DWL-G510?
[02:52] <alexk_> LadyNikon, it happened to me today actually
[02:52] <useruser> kpLaX[oldcomp] : there are other ways, but you need to know what you're doing
[02:52] <Raul654> Ok, question - I got fortran working on my system (g77). Now I need to install MPI. What do I do? I've looked through the documentation and can't find anything
[02:52] <corwin> osiris, are there any particular PASV ports I should get my router to forward?
[02:52] <LadyNikon> alexk_: seems like its not very happy.
[02:52] <alexk_> LadyNikon, I did not report though
[02:52] <BlueHeron> healot: you could even use a bar knapkin and lipstick
[02:52] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > im really good on windows, is ubuntu more complicated?
[02:52] <ipfw> where does Ubuntu/Debian (whatever) put the pkg-config files for Glib, Glib2, GTK etc ?
[02:52] <pianoboy3333> BlueHeron: I'm asking how can I get a text editor to USE the highlighting in that document, such as in gedit, where you do view->highlight mode
[02:52] <osiris> corwin, i believe fpt is 21 and 22 tcp
[02:52] <useruser> kpLaX[oldcomp] : yes and no
[02:52] <healot> LadyNikon: if it is Flash for x64, then... there is one in the launchpad
[02:52] <BlueHeron> pianoboy3333: use bluefish
[02:52] <useruser> kpLaX[oldcomp] : depends what you want to do with it
[02:52] <osiris> corwin, ftp i mean
[02:52] <rishi> kpLaX[oldcomp] : it is different...not really more complicated
[02:52] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > i want to install it
[02:53] <healot> BlueHeron: I prefer condom :)
[02:53] <LadyNikon> healot: nope. dual p3
[02:53] <iGotNoTime> rishi: it is from the Google API?
[02:53] <pianoboy3333> BlueHeron: bluefish can use syntax I made?
[02:53] <corwin> osiris, I'm actually using 42... there's no other ports I need to open?
[02:53] <useruser> kpLaX[oldcomp] : if everything goes smoothly, it's easier than installing windows
[02:53] <rishi> kpLaX[oldcomp] : haha: what do you want to do with it once installed
[02:53] <healot> sorry... try to look for that in ubuntu's launchpad
[02:53] <rishi> iGotNoTime: google api? hmm
[02:53] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > but, i dont have it on a disc
[02:53] <iGotNoTime> rishi: http://www.google.com/apis/download.html
[02:53] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > is this going to be a problem?
[02:53] <useruser> kpLaX[oldcomp] : put it on a disc, then!
[02:53] <healot> google deskbar? it requires file from Google API's site
[02:53] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > i dont have a disc lol
[02:54] <useruser> kpLaX[oldcomp] : yes, that'll probably be a problem
[02:54] <iGotNoTime> You are a power googler rishi
[02:54] <osiris> corwin, if you are using 42, make sure you configured ftp to use 42, and forward 42, through both the software firewall, and router (if applicable)
[02:54] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > brb gonna call my friend
[02:54] <osiris> corwin, for simplicity sake i would stick to default ports until you get the configuration correct
[02:55] <corwin> osiris: can't, cox blocks port 21 :P I ran /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd -S 192.168.1.107,42 & to start the server, and I have 42 forwarded on my router
[02:55] <rishi> iGotNoTime: dude, you are a genius.
[02:56] <rishi> i dunno what to do once i got that though...hahaha.
[02:56] <btdown> lol
[02:56] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > hey um i cant open .iso files
[02:56] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > wat program do i need
[02:56] <Riko> so what does it mean if ndiswrapper grinds my pc to a halt when i load my wifi card?
[02:56] <pianoboy3333> BlueHeron: where can I choose in blufish to use another syntax highlighting I have created?
[02:56] <healot> A CD burnder kpLaX[oldcomp] 
[02:56] <rishi> kpLaX[oldcomp] : nero, alchohol, something
[02:56] <healot> for example, gnomebaker? nautilus is sufficient enough
[02:57] <healot> or you can do it the hard way, mount it on a loopback file system, or use "cdrecord" on the command line
[02:57] <useruser> Raul654: i know nothing about fortran or mpi, but maybe apt-get install mpich will do the trick?
[02:57] <sorush21> guys hwere is my java directory
[02:57] <sorush21> where is my java directory
[02:58] <Comrade_Sergei> why isnt my sound working
[02:58] <healot> ask Sun Microsystem
[02:58] <Steve^> sorush21, where did you install java?
[02:58] <rishi> Comrade_Sergei: what sound isn't working
[02:58] <Raul654> useruser - ok, lemme try that
[02:58] <healot> Java isn't installed by default in ubuntu
[02:58] <rishi> Comrade_Sergei: all of it?
[02:58] <pianoboy3333> sorush21: next to the capiccuino directory
[02:58] <rishi> hahaha
[02:58] <Steve^> sorush21,  have a look in /usr/lib and /opt
[02:58] <useruser> sorush21: find / -type d -name 'j2r*'
[02:58] <Comrade_Sergei> rishi when i turned my computer on cranked up amarok it just didnt work?
[02:58] <healot> sorush21: invoke "java"
[02:59] <Comrade_Sergei> all of it!
[02:59] <sorush21> thanks guys
[02:59] <pianoboy3333> I'm telling you, it's next to the cappuccino directory!
[02:59] <rishi> Comrade_Sergei: so when you log into ubuntu, you don't hear anything?
[02:59] <Comrade_Sergei> nope
[02:59] <rishi> sorush21: java isn't installed by default, you have to install it post install
[02:59] <rishi> Comrade_Sergei: what card do you have?
[02:59] <Raul654> user - it installed mpich; but what's the MPI compiler called?
[03:00] <Comrade_Sergei> i think my driver may have done something stupid but how do i check rishi
[03:00] <sorush21> but there are packages in the repository..
[03:00] <Comrade_Sergei> integrated
[03:00] <healot> Raul654: take a look on the package list, somewhere in /usr/bin
[03:00] <useruser> Raul654: no idea... like i say, i wouldn't know a line of fortran if it bit me in the ass
[03:00] <rishi> do you know the model?
[03:00] <pjv> is there a way i can make evolution be place at the systems tray just like gaim or kmail?
[03:00] <Comrade_Sergei> rishi its integrated as in built onto the board
[03:00] <healot> you use Fotran and you should be more familiar about Fotran
[03:01] <kRaKoN> why I can't open mp3 files on Rhythmbox ?
[03:01] <useruser> Raul654: dpkg -L mpich | grep bin
[03:01] <useruser> Raul654: perhaps
[03:01] <rishi> Comrade_Sergei: then what's the board model
[03:01] <Raul654> Healot - I don't use fortran. I'm trying to run a benchmark written in fortran
[03:01] <useruser> Raul654: and look in /usr/share/doc/mpich
[03:01] <Steve^> If I just installed Java 1.5 from the sun website, how do I tell ubuntu to use the new 1.5 compiler rather than the old 1.4?
[03:01] <healot> well, you ARe trying to use it...
[03:01] <Comrade_Sergei> whats it matter rishi
[03:01] <Steve^> The list provided by 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' doesn't have my new install
[03:01] <rishi> Comrade_Sergei: so you can look it up on the wiki and figure it out
[03:01] <brenner> kRaKoN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:02] <iGotNoTime> Is all this Java talk for Azureus?
[03:02] <rishi> Comrade_Sergei: there could be known problems
[03:02] <Comrade_Sergei> its not the board im quite confident
[03:02] <healot> Steve^: if it is the binary distrib from Sun, you need to install "make-jpkg" package to make the debian package from that binary
[03:02] <rishi> Comrade_Sergei: i'm not sure then, try to do a clean install again; it should just detect it
[03:02] <Steve^> healot, well, that didn't work. So I installed it manually by executing the file..
[03:02] <Comrade_Sergei> um no im too far in for that
[03:02] <kRaKoN> brenner: thanks for the link ;) is there anyway i can reproduct this kind of files?
[03:03] <Comrade_Sergei> NEXT!
[03:03] <healot> and after you installed the debian package, it should be somewhere in "/usr/lib/jdk<>"
[03:03] <brandon3> am i suppose to type anything when it says... brandon@blk-224-139-212:~$?
[03:03] <sambagirl> what is the current version of ubuntu? breezy?
[03:03] <brandon3> it has a blinking underscore
[03:03] <brenner> kRaKoN: reproduct what kind of files?
[03:03] <brandon3> but i don't know what to type
[03:03] <rishi> damn, somebody's got a stick up their ass
[03:03] <Steve^> healot, well because I did it seperately, it is actually in /opt/bla
[03:03] <brenner> sambagirl: yep, most recent stable is breezy
[03:03] <Comrade_Sergei> CHALLENGE what could be wrong with my sound it do=esnt work nothing i think its a driver issue
[03:03] <healot> Steve^: it worked for me... and mostly for anybody
[03:03] <useruser> brandon3: maybe startx will work
[03:03] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[03:03] <Raul654> aha
[03:03] <Raul654> mpif77
[03:03] <healot> well, invoke the java from that folder then...
[03:03] <Steve^> healot, well I tried everything the wiki page said.. I don't see what else I could do...
[03:04] <brandon3> i've tried start but not startx
[03:04] <Steve^> healot, the new install works through eclipse, I just need it to be used when I typed java in the console
[03:04] <healot> "/usr/bin/mpiff77", Raul654 ?
[03:04] <brandon3> says something about sh level
[03:04] <kRaKoN> brenner: I just got the answer on the link you gave thanks a lot
[03:04] <rishi> utorrent needs to come out for linux
[03:04] <ardinary> I have a font issue: Looking at the wikipedia page for X there's a list of Unicode non-letter symbols that resemble X and all of them but the symbol for vector cross product have a symbol; vcp has a unicode box 2A2F.  How do I get this box to be replaced with a symbol?
[03:04] <Raul654> healot - yes
[03:04] <Raul654> healot - it requires f77
[03:04] <Raul654> which I was unsucessful at installing
[03:04] <Raul654> because I don't know the pacakge name
[03:04] <healot> it's a Fotran 77 compiler right?
[03:04] <Blippe> how do i start an application within a terminal?
[03:04] <Raul654> healot - yes
[03:05] <Raul654> E: Couldn't find package f77
[03:05] <useruser> Blippe: type the name of the executable and press enter
[03:05] <healot> Microsoft/Borland have Fotran 90 compilers...
[03:05] <useruser> Blippe: assuming it's in your path, that is
[03:05] <Comrade_Sergei> come on! what could be wrong with my sound it do=esnt work nothing i think its a driver issue
[03:06] <iGotNoTime> so this Google on the desktop that rishi was talking about, does anyone here already use it?
[03:06] <rishi> iGotNoTime: its the deskbar thing that gnome 2.14 has
[03:06] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, does anyone here have a PCI card for ATA133 interface?
[03:06] <healot> Comrade_Sergei: you must tell us the model/brand of your card first, even it is a died-chip
[03:06] <Blippe> useruser i mean, i want to start a terminal, AND start an application within the terminal
[03:06] <healot> Comrade_Sergei: "lspci"
[03:06] <rishi> healot: THANK YOU
[03:06] <Comrade_Sergei> no card integrated its a driver problem!
[03:06] <Blippe> useruser, with one command
[03:06] <iGotNoTime> rishi: I assumed it was a widget :)
[03:06] <useruser> Blippe: xterm -e program
[03:06] <jadaz87> google on the desktop copies all of certain types of documents to their servers unless you turn that option off
[03:06] <Blippe> useruser, thanks!
[03:06] <useruser> Blippe: dunno about gnome-terminal or others, you can read the manpages
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 03)
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 03)
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 12)
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 12)
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 12)
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 12)
[03:07] <useruser> Comrade_Sergei: oi
[03:07] <rishi> iGotNoTime: i wish it was, i like that whole dashboard-y thing
[03:07] <iGotNoTime> whoa
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 12)
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 12)
[03:07] <brenner> Blippe: use screen, or run it in the bg with an &
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 12)
[03:07] <iGotNoTime> pastebin
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF
[03:07] <iGotNoTime> please
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> 0000:02:08.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10)
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> andrew@mgdam:~$
[03:07] <brenner> e.g. 'gedit &'
[03:07] <iGotNoTime> damn I log this
[03:07] <gnu2it2> i want to setup a small mail system for home network. what is light, fast, easy for smtp and pop3?
[03:07] <Comrade_Sergei> u saw that i meant it to be a pm
[03:08] <GTroy> is it nuts to think you'll get a faster computer, though take longer to setup using nothing but source pkgs?
[03:08] <rishi> hahaha
[03:08] <iGotNoTime> is there a desklet that does the same thing rishi?
[03:08] <NytWuff> Could someone (or several) give me their views on partitions? Specifically for sizes and which to use (for example, instead of having one ext3 and one swap, have several for different directories)
[03:08] <useruser> GTroy: you talking about gentoo?
[03:08] <GTroy> I don't wanna switch
[03:08] <rishi> GTroy, how do you do that purple thing?
[03:08] <GTroy> what purple thing?
[03:08] <NytWuff> rishi: /me
[03:08] <rishi> yeah!
[03:08] <GTroy>   /me
[03:08] <rishi> ok
[03:09] <rishi> haha he's Baaaack!
[03:09] <rishi> haha
[03:09] <Comrade_Sergei> sory
[03:09] <ardinary> I want a linux project about linux and human languages in general...
[03:09] <iGotNoTime> no probl Comrade_Sergei :)
[03:09] <FlannelKing> useruser: PLF has restricted things available, it's what easyubuntu uses.
[03:09] <useruser> ardinary: eh?
[03:10] <rishi> wait, GTroy, that didn't work right
[03:10] <brenner> NytWuff: well for me, / is ~10GB, /home is ~30GB, swap is 512Mb
[03:10] <useruser> FlannelKing: yeah, but it should all be available by default for non-us users
[03:10] <useruser> FlannelKing: (not that i know what plf is)
[03:10] <juztin> can anyone recommend a good game from synaptic that two players can play from one keyboard...like frozen bubble?
[03:10] <rishi> how come mine doesn't stay purple?
[03:10] <iGotNoTime> rishi: comes with the head some have said :P
[03:10] <rishi> iGotNoTime: hahaha
[03:11] <schloob> does anyone have a clue why my terminals might be colorless? the only colored text i see is from the ls command. any ideas?
[03:11] <iGotNoTime> so rishi is there a desklet that does the same thing yet or no?
[03:11] <NytWuff> brenner: Thanks. What would you recommend for a two hard drive system (a 10 gig and a 160gig)
[03:11] <rishi> iGotNoTime is my /me command look proper or no?
[03:11] <iGotNoTime> yes
[03:11] <useruser> schloob: where do you expect color and not see it?
[03:11] <iGotNoTime> purple on my screen just not yours
[03:11] <rishi> iGotNoTime: are you referring to a dashboard type thing?
[03:11] <iGotNoTime> ya
[03:11] <schloob> useruser: like.. in vim
[03:11] <useruser> schloob: dunno about vim
[03:11] <daaku> i'm trying to install a packge on a dapper install, and i'm having some packge version issues: perl: Depends: perl-base (= 5.8.7-5ubuntu1.2) but 5.8.7-10ubuntu1 is to be installed - anyone know how i can get around it? (or if i can get the new version from somewhere)
[03:11] <schloob> useruser: or usually my prompts (like user@host:~$) are green
[03:11] <useruser> schloob: does it work on the console in color?
[03:12] <rishi> iGotNoTime: not that i've seen, konfab is win only, and desktop x is xp and stupid
[03:12] <kRaKoN> i can get root access with sudo on the terminal, can i get it from a visual mode so i can access "folders" that i have no permission? (whit out login as root)
[03:12] <schloob> useruser: what? -.-
[03:12] <useruser> schloob: which terminal emulator are you using? i get good results with xterm
[03:12] <iGotNoTime> rishi: gDesklets for gnome ?
[03:12] <useruser> schloob: i mean on the linux console, the one at control-alt-f2 (hit alt-f7 to return to the gui)
[03:12] <brenner> NytWuff: up to you, but i'd jjust do the 10 gig as / and /home as the 160gb.  you might want to split it up into partitions like you said though
[03:12] <juztin> kRaKoN, you can run konqueror from term with sudo command
[03:12] <rishi> iGotNoTime: oh i dunno, the only one i know about now is the deskbar thing
[03:12] <schloob> useruser: aterm, but neither xterm or gnome-terminal work either.. (oh, i'll try my tty's)
[03:13] <juztin> kRaKoN, there might be an easier way...but thats how i do it :P
[03:13] <useruser> schloob: it's probably a vim issue, i guess
[03:13] <iGotNoTime> rishi: you don't use them?
[03:13] <schloob> useruser: nope, nothing for my tty terminals either.
[03:13] <NytWuff> Alrighty
[03:13] <iGotNoTime> rishi: they are sooooo nice
[03:13] <Comrade_Sergei> healot?
[03:13] <schloob> useruser: i know it's not a vim issue, it's not only vim
[03:13] <healot> daaku: flight 5?
[03:13] <schloob> useruser: that was just an example
[03:13] <healot> don't flood, Comrade_Sergei :-|
[03:13] <kRaKoN> juztin: how do i run it ?(sorry i am a newbe)
[03:13] <useruser> schloob: oh, ok. dunno then
[03:13] <schloob> useruser :[
[03:14] <jadaz87> does anyone know of a music creation program Like Propellerheads Reason for linux?
[03:14] <chuckyp> test
[03:14] <juztin> kRaKoN, i meant nautilus, sorry
[03:14] <schloob> another question, how do i like add the unstable branch to my list thingy? i want aterm 1.0, but it's not in the breezy tree
[03:14] <juztin> kRaKoN, in term, type : sudo nautilus
[03:15] <kRaKoN> justin, thanks a lot
[03:15] <juztin> kRaKoN, but, like i said, there might be an easier way...that's just how i do it if i want to do root actions in gui :)
[03:15] <juztin> can anyone recommend a good game from synaptic that two players can play from one keyboard...like frozen bubble?
[03:15] <healot> jadaz87: tried "wired" before?
[03:16] <gnu2it2> when you have perl 5.6 and 5.8, how do you point to the one you want to use?
[03:16] <useruser> schloob: try this: perl -MTerm::ANSIColor -e 'print color green; print "foo\n"'
[03:16] <Brandon3> my ubuntu still wont load
[03:16] <schloob> useruser: yeah, that works
[03:16] <juztin> jadaz87, someone posted a link to a wiki page for ubuntu earlier...it was about setting up ubuntu for music editing and recording and such, like a computer studio...have you seen that page?
[03:16] <useruser> schloob: hm
[03:17] <rishi> iGotNoTime: wait, i have no idea anymore about what you're talking about
[03:17] <kRaKoN> juztin works exccelent for me.. now i know why linux is o sucesfull the help between users is great
[03:17] <juztin> jadaz87, cuz i'm interested in doing the same thing...just haven't moved my _main_ computer over to this house yet :P
[03:17] <Comrade_Sergei> healot that was a accident r u still gonna help me?
[03:17] <iGotNoTime> rishi:  hehe
[03:17] <useruser> schloob: maybe something's wrong with your curses installation.. or something
[03:17] <xanavim> !funk
[03:17] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xanavim
[03:17] <healot> yeah
[03:17] <xanavim> blah
[03:17] <juztin> kRaKoN, np :)
[03:17] <schloob> useruser: i don't see why curses would be the problem
[03:17] <healot> paste it on pastebin, by the way try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base" first
[03:18] <grace_>  fghfgfghfg
[03:18] <rishi> iGotNoTime: please share your knowledge, oh gdesklet master!
[03:18] <Brandon3> does anyone know what this mean brandon@blk-224-139-212:~$
[03:18] <healot> Comrade_Sergei: "ls -s /dev/dsp" first, if there is such a file, then you have sound card working, maybe muted?
[03:18] <FliesLikeALap> is there a command that can be used to tell the system to hibernate/suspend
[03:18] <FliesLikeALap> ?
[03:18] <Sergi0> Brandon3 thats the command line
[03:18] <Brandon3> what do i type?
[03:18] <juztin> FliesLikeABrick, System/Log Out/Hibernate
[03:19] <nickrud> Brandon3, when you installed you did not specify a host name for the machine, so the installer used your active network for the hostname
[03:19] <healot> "ls -l", Comrade_Sergei
[03:19] <grace_> hey  brandon its ur loaction   login name and hostname got it
[03:19] <schloob> useruser: while i'm talking to you, do you know if it's possible to add the dapper list of packages to my list of repositories? i'm using breezy 5.10
[03:19] <FliesLikeALap> juztin no I'm asking specifically for a command line command to do it
[03:19] <Brandon3> how do i get past it?
[03:19] <juztin> FliesLikeABrick, oh, sorry :P
[03:19] <juztin> FliesLikeABrick, dunno
[03:19] <Sergi0> Brandon3 how did u install ubuntu?
[03:19] <nickrud> Brandon3, 'get past it?'
[03:19] <warthawg> i've installed tftpd, but can't seem to get it to run.  is there a trick?  the executable is in /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
[03:20] <grace_> brandon if u have built in intel network card ur toast
[03:20] <Sergi0> nickrud he's stuck in terminal
[03:20] <Brandon3> well theres a blinking underscore at the end like it wants me to type something
[03:20] <juztin> Brandon3, type startx
[03:20] <nickrud> Brandon3, try typing ls /
[03:20] <Sergi0> Brandon3 how did u install ubuntu?
[03:20] <iGotNoTime> rishi: I am sorry I was reading....
[03:20] <Brandon3> tried startx
[03:20] <Brandon3> didn't work
[03:20] <iGotNoTime> did you get a chance to see what they basically were?
[03:20] <juztin> Brandon3, did you do a server install?
[03:20] <nickrud> doh
[03:20] <Brandon3> i intalled ubuntu from a cd they sent me
[03:21] <rishi> iGotNoTime: no, where should i look?
[03:21] <Brandon3> i did a basic i think because i was getting too many errors with the default
[03:21] <juztin> Brandon3, at the install boot prompt, did you just press enter, or did you type server and press enter?
[03:21] <nickrud> Brandon3, type groups where the cursor is flashing, and paste the one line that comes back here
[03:21] <iGotNoTime> rishi: here is a google image search result....   http://www.grimstveit.no/jakob/files/screenshots/gdesklet3.png
[03:21] <Brandon3> i typed server
[03:21] <Brandon3> i do recollect
[03:22] <nickrud> Brandon3, you want the full blown ubuntu desktop?
[03:22] <iGotNoTime> rishi:  they are basically mini-apps and scripts that "float" on your desktop
[03:22] <Brandon3> i would prefer it
[03:22] <rishi> iGotNoTime: wait a minute; there ARE dashboardy things??!
[03:22] <Brandon3> but when i tried to install it i got a lot of errors
[03:22] <iGotNoTime> rishi: and are dynamic. The uses are almost limitless
[03:22] <grace_> anyone know how to install an acer scanner on ubuntu
[03:23] <Brandon3> i just wanted to get it installed because im sick of running the live version lol
[03:23] <iGotNoTime> rishi: yes you can use for system stats, email, rss, weather, news, media player controller
[03:23] <rishi> iGotNoTimewhere to research and install all this goodness?
[03:23] <iGotNoTime> rishi: they use a little ram but not much else
[03:23] <don> I dosen't can install real player, somehere can help me?
[03:23] <Sergi0> Brandon3 u need to reinstall just the normal version, what errors did u get before?
[03:23] <rishi> iGotNoTime: and is the set up in the pic using gnome? its skinned all wierd
[03:23] <Dr_House> can anyone help me? i'm in breezy and i've edited my fstab to mount two HDDs (http://me2win.pastebin.com/627953) .. i did sudo mount -a and the hdds seem to have mounted .. but the ntfs one is completely locked .. when i try to acess it in /mnt/120, it says i do not have the right permissions .. and as for the ext3 one, i can't do anything in it except write text files with "sudo gedit"
[03:23] <iGotNoTime> rishi: use Synaptic and search for gdesklet then install :)
[03:24] <iGotNoTime> rishi: yes sir
[03:24] <Brandon3> i can't remember i've been on this for like 3 weeks ill try and reinstall and write down any errors i get and bring them back here
[03:24] <FlannelKing> rishi: don't install the data though, that's old and bad.
[03:24] <rishi> what data?
[03:24] <iGotNoTime> rishi: they are pretty easy to customize, and very useful
[03:25] <Dr_House> anyone know how unlock a folder?
[03:25] <iGotNoTime> FlannelKing: you mean the default desklets using sensors while the engine no longer supports them?
[03:25] <nickrud> Brandon3, before you do that, you could try a couple of things since you have a server install already running
[03:26] <grace_> hey brandon the problem is ur hardware evem though it works on microsoft linux demands perfect hardware performance, unlike windows wich can compensate for inconsistencies
[03:26] <brenner> ubotu: tell don about restricted
[03:27] <nickrud> Dr_House, you need to change the permissions on the folder
[03:27] <Sergi0> Brandon3 for a try: 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' type the text withing the ' in the teminal behinde the @text
[03:27] <FlannelKing> iGotNoTime: hmm? no, there's the desklets package, and the desklets data pcakage, or something like that, the data package is old versions.
[03:27] <Dr_House> nickrud, how can i do that as root?
[03:27] <grace_> dr house you need to add permisions or ownership via xterm
[03:27] <brenner> Dr_House: check out the fstab section here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions ... basically, you need to edit the ntfs options so it's made accessible to all users instead of just default
[03:27] <nickrud> Dr_House, chmod is the command, and what folder is it, by the way?
[03:27] <Sergi0> Brandon3 typo 'sudo apt-get install'
[03:27] <Sergi0> Brandon3 typo 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[03:27] <iGotNoTime> I see FlannelKing :)
[03:27] <Dr_House> nickrud it's the folder where i mounted an NTFS hdd
[03:27] <nickrud> Brandon3 is gone
[03:28] <rishi> oh...okay
[03:28] <rishi> brb iGotNoTime, etc.
[03:28] <iGotNoTime> :)
[03:28] <Sergi0> hmm, well hopefully he's running an normal install, since he's not a systemadmin of any sort :)
[03:28] <FlannelKing> iGotNoTime: all of the stuff in "data" is in the normal package though.  It's just a remnanat package... from who knows when, orwhy.
[03:28] <grace_> anyone know how to install an acer scanner on ubuntu
[03:28] <bouncing> I'm trying to write some documentation on setting up servers. Does anyone know how to get a list of packages installed which are not part of the default installation?
[03:29] <linux_user40035> after using partition magic to try to back up my data before installing linux, something in windows may have got corrupt because i get an error "missing  or corrupt hal.dll". I put in ubuntu livecd to try to recover my data. When i try to mount /dev/hda1 I get the message "special device /dev/hda1 does not exist" What can I do??? I have  been able to recover my data before through knoppix and other linux live cds.
[03:29] <nickrud> Dr_House, to read an ntfs partition, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:30] <Dr_House> nickrud sure
[03:31] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > 6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
[03:31] <juztin> jadaz87, someone posted a link to a wiki page for ubuntu earlier...it was about setting up ubuntu for music editing and recording and such, like a computer studio...have you seen that page?
[03:31] <Dr_House> nickrud i changed the fstab as the site told me and restarted X, but i still get the same problem
[03:31] <juztin> oops
[03:31] <thomas__> anyone know how to partition my mac computer so i can install ubuntu without losing my files?
[03:31] <juztin> jadaz87, ignore last post lol
[03:31] <jadaz87> lol
[03:32] <jadaz87> no i did not see it
[03:32] <nickrud> Dr_House, a sec, I'll walk you through it
[03:32] <jadaz87> healot what is wired?
[03:32] <healot> "wired", try that yet?
[03:32] <Dr_House> nickrud thanks
[03:32] <daaku> healot: sorry, steped out.. i used debootstrap to setup the system, and its fresh (nothing added after the debootstrap)
[03:32] <daaku> healot: (reg the packge version problem with perl-base)
[03:33] <rishi> iGotNoTime: so, i installed...and when i click the program...nothing happens.
[03:33] <IamEthos> hey, I'm having trouble with my broadcom wifi adapter. I followed the instructions, but I'm not sure if it's working
[03:33] <iGotNoTime> right rishi you need to choose which one's to activate
[03:33] <juztin> can anyone recommend a good game from synaptic that two players can play from one keyboard...like frozen bubble?
[03:34] <rishi> iGotNoTime: any idea on how to make that happen?
[03:34] <iGotNoTime> you double click them and then place them where you want them rishi
[03:34] <nickrud> Dr_House, ok, could you post your /etc/fstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:34] <roune> hi, im having some problems. there is some programs that wont start, like mozilla, gkrellm. nothing happens when i type like "gkrellm" in aterm, or mozilla..
[03:34] <f8> what packet do i get for jave envoirment?
[03:34] <f8> *java
[03:34] <biovore> !twl f8 about java
[03:34] <ubotu> biovore: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:34] <iGotNoTime> rishi:  Do you use SIP or Skype by chance?
[03:34] <biovore> !tell f8 about java
[03:34] <healot> jadaz87: you want a music studio rright? then try "wired"
[03:34] <brandon3> alright i typed groups in
[03:34] <rishi> double click what though...nothing happens, the mouse goes to circle for a couple seconds, and that's it
[03:34] <IamEthos> when I change default gateway to wlan0 and click okay on the network settings page, nothing happens
[03:34] <brandon3> this is what came back
[03:34] <rishi> i have neither...sorry iGotNoTime
[03:34] <iGotNoTime> I will IM you then
[03:34] <Dr_House> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11015
[03:35] <IamEthos> the network icon in my notification area still says "eth0
[03:35] <IamEthos> "
[03:35] <brandon3> brandon adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[03:35] <brenner> thomas__: i think gparted can resize hfs partitions
[03:35] <nickrud> Dr_House, in a terminal type sudo mount -o remount /dev/hda1
[03:35] <Dr_House> done
[03:36] <nickrud> brandon3, that's good you already have an admin account, that makes this easier
[03:36] <shadeofgrey> can somebody paste the lkink to the page with information on how to download and install libdvdcss
[03:36] <Dr_House> still not enough permissions
[03:36] <shadeofgrey> please
[03:36] <jadaz87> healot do you have a link to its homepage?
[03:36] <f8> biovore, is the bloackdown java complarble to the sun?
[03:36] <brandon3> alrighty thats what i like to hear
[03:36] <healot> wait
[03:36] <brandon3> whats next?
[03:37] <IamEthos> even with eth0 disabled, it won't let me select wlan0
[03:37] <nickrud> Dr_House, I'm lazy, here's my section instead of the rw....    defaults,umask=0000
[03:37] <nickrud> Dr_House, hacky :)
[03:37] <IamEthos> even with eth0 disabled it won't let me select wlan0 as the default gateway
[03:37] <rishi> holllaaaa!
[03:37] <IamEthos> any idea how to make this work?
[03:37] <Dr_House> hehe, nickrud i replaced it with your section and its still locked
[03:38] <nickrud> brandon3, now, dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop ; are the first two characters ii ?
[03:38] <nickrud> Dr_House, then sudo umount /dev/hda1  && sudo mount /dev/hda1
[03:38] <jadaz87> juztin do you know where i can get to that page? i tried looking on the wiki site
[03:38] <iGotNoTime> rishi: you got it?
[03:38] <brandon3> do i have to restart and type that in to find out?
[03:38] <rishi> iGotNoTime: got what? haha.
[03:39] <brenner> shadeofgrey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[03:39] <Dr_House> nickrud, that did it!
[03:39] <juztin> jadaz87, gimme a sec to hunt it down k?
[03:39] <iGotNoTime> I sent you like 10 lines of private messages
[03:39] <nickrud> brandon3, just type it in a terminal, like you did for the groups command
[03:39] <rishi> iGotNoTime: none of them got to me?
[03:39] <iGotNoTime> ha
[03:39] <healot> jadaz87: it's available in Debian's repos... ubuntu hasn;t package it yet
[03:39] <brandon3> but im on the live version
[03:39] <Dr_House> nickrud is there any way to make it mount automatically in fstab and work?
[03:40] <iGotNoTime> do you have any instant messenger yet rishi?
[03:40] <healot> jadaz87: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Wired-3349.shtml
[03:40] <rishi> yeah, aim
[03:40] <rishi> and irc
[03:40] <rishi> obviously, haha
[03:40] <nickrud> Dr_House, with auto in the fstab, it will mount every time you boot, and use the mask permissions you just set
[03:40] <ab0rted> hey could i spam something real quick? its shell hosting I offer
[03:40] <ab0rted> webhosting and IRCd hosting
[03:40] <crimsun> ab0rted: absolutely not?
[03:40] <juztin> jadaz87, it's http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Welcome%2C_Musicians!
[03:40] <healot> jadaz87: you can actually "google" for it :)
[03:40] <ab0rted> ok then thanks
[03:40] <pjv> is there a graphical scp client for gnome?
[03:40] <nickrud> Dr_House, the umount & mount thing only needed to be done to test, and get it available during this boot cycle.
[03:40] <Dr_House> so , nickrud, if i restart X and it automatically mounts from fstab, will i still have to sudo umount and sudo mount?
[03:40] <iGotNoTime> rishi come to #secretmeeting :)
[03:41] <rishi> hahaha
[03:41] <nickrud> Dr_House, it gets mounted *long before X starts
[03:41] <jadaz87> HOLY CRAP this looks almost like Reason i think i am going to like this
[03:41] <Dr_House> so for each boot cycle, i have to umount and mount?
[03:41] <jadaz87> juztin thanks :-)
[03:41] <iGotNoTime> password is secret LOL
[03:41] <juztin> jadaz87, i found it by googling music studio ubuntu...you lazy bastard lol :P
[03:41] <iGotNoTime> don't tell these guys
[03:41] <nickrud> Dr_House, no, with auto in the fstab, it will mount every time you boot
[03:41] <rishi> keep it on the DL
[03:41] <nickrud> correctly
[03:41] <jadaz87> juztin i was searching on the actually ubuntu wiki site
[03:41] <jadaz87> juztin i put in muic studio and it did not come up with nothing
[03:41] <Dr_House> nickrud but it was locked before i did the umount and mount cycle just now .. so that leads me to believe i will have to do that each time i reboot
[03:42] <juztin> jadaz87, its cool :)
[03:42] <jadaz87> juztin 0 results of about 9090 pages. (0.29 seconds) haha
[03:42] <juztin> whats up with that :P
[03:42] <nickrud> Dr_House, reboot and see, I'd guess. as long as you have the fstab you showed me, you should be fine
[03:43] <brandon3> ok i got it
[03:43] <healot> jadaz87: http://www.gnomefiles.org/category.php?cat_id=1 >> all your musik freak application is there :)
[03:43] <brandon3> ii ubuntudesktop 0.80
[03:43] <Dr_House> nickrud, alright .. if you look at my fstab, you'll see /dev/hdb1 .. it's an ext3 partition that i can get to but i dont have privaleges to delete files or copy into that hdd .. how can i fix that?
[03:43] <nickrud> brandon3, great.
[03:43] <brandon3> sorry im a little slow
[03:44] <nickrud> brandon3, np, so am I. now, type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; that should reset your x server. If there's a question you don't understand, ask
[03:44] <brandon3> can i do this all on the live cd?
[03:44] <brandon3> or do i have to restart and do it from there
[03:45] <brandon3> without the live cd
[03:45] <nickrud> Dr_House, now that's a different kettle, that's where chmod comes in. Do you want everyone to be able to read & write that partition
[03:45] <magno> ola
[03:45] <Dr_House> nickrud sure
[03:45] <BitNinja707> i'm having a small issue with XAMPP...can someone direct me to the right config file which would tell me where the default web folder is?
[03:45] <Dr_House> i'm the only one who uses this computer .. shouldnt be a problem ;)
[03:46] <IamEthos> jadaz87: what are you guys talking about?
[03:46] <michael> what are some good programs for network security/hacking/administration
[03:46] <nickrud> brandon3, restart, do it from the install. And, those commands, groups and dpkg -i ubuntu-desktop need to be done on the installed version :) Sorry
[03:46] <makaveli> whats a good dvd ripper for gnome?
[03:46] <michael> not illegal hacking
[03:46] <brandon3> makaveli?
[03:47] <nickrud> Dr_House, then sudo chmod +rw /mnt/barracuda
[03:47] <brandon3> that sounds familar
[03:47] <holycow> use windows for cracking pls
[03:47] <roune> ;P
[03:47] <makaveli> brandon3, yes . i need a dvd ripper
[03:47] <brandon3> no i your name lol
[03:47] <rishi> makaveli:
[03:47] <brandon3> did you used to be on dalnet?
[03:47] <ab0rted> could someone please send me dapper when its released? the shipit disks take too long to get here
[03:47] <michael> holycow, i want to test the security of my home network
[03:47] <rishi> search digg...there was a great script about dvd ripping
[03:48] <Dr_House> nickrud that didn't work :(
[03:48] <makaveli> brandon3,  im on dalnet. but not with this nickname
[03:48] <makaveli> i never used it on dalnet.,
[03:48] <brenner> makaveli: dvdrip or acidrip maybe
[03:48] <brandon3> oh nevermind then my bad
[03:48] <biovore> makaveli: mencoder will do it too
[03:49] <makaveli> brenner,  thank u
[03:49] <makaveli> brenner,  which one are u using ? :D
[03:49] <nickrud> Dr_House, type touch /mnt/barracuda/testfile , then ls /mnt/barracuda
[03:49] <brenner> makaveli: neither.  just saw them recommended a few times
[03:50] <ab0rted> i have ubuntu 5.04 and ordered 5.10 long ago from shipit and its been over 4 months and not here yet
[03:50] <ab0rted> and 5.04 took very long to arrive i must add to that
[03:50] <clocks> Where do I set an MX record in ubuntu?
[03:51] <BitNinja707> has anyone here used XAMPP
[03:51] <BitNinja707> ?
[03:51] <Dr_House> nickrud, the touch command would only work with "sudo"
[03:51] <Dr_House> otherwise, i get permission denied
[03:52] <brenner> ab0rted: where are you?
[03:52] <crouchingMonkey> what program can i use to make an image of a CD ?
[03:52] <arrick> !pastebin
[03:52] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - You can install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar
[03:54] <Dr_House> nickrud, i did a sudo chmod 777 /mnt/barracuda and it seems to work
[03:54] <nickrud> Dr_House, sudo chmod  a+rw /mnt/barracuda   (typo, sorry)
[03:55] <brenner> crouchingMonkey: gcombust
[03:55] <Dr_House> nickrud, can i add 777 or a+rw to the options in fstab so it does this automatically?
[03:55] <brenner> crouchingMonkey: there's also k3b and gnomebaker (not sure if it does images though)
[03:55] <Dr_House> nickrud for options, can i do defaults,777 ?
[03:55] <ab0rted> brenner i am in San Juan Puerto Rico
[03:55] <nickrud> Dr_House, permissions are permanent, they won't change until you change them yourself
[03:56] <Dr_House> nickrud, ah cool .. thanks for all your help
[03:56] <Riko> Hi guys, can anyone point me in the direction for info on howto share my wireless connection thru my NIC?
[03:56] <nickrud> Dr_House, sorry for the runaround
[03:56] <brenner> ab0rted: well, hoary took ~4 mths for me here in aus.
[03:57] <Dr_House> nickrud no problem .. i'm just starting with linux so i'm very used to it ;)
[03:57] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey, I usually do dd if=/dev/cdromX of=file.iso bs=1024
[03:57] <ab0rted> yes brenner but I dont want to wait so much
[03:57] <Dr_House> ab0rted why can't you just download the image?
[03:57] <ab0rted> Dr_House no can do
[03:58] <ab0rted> Dr_House i dont have a cd-r
[03:58] <Dr_House> ab0rted i can mail you the distro you want
[03:58] <jadaz87> IamEthos music production for ubuntu
[03:58] <Joetheodd> Dr_House: Hey, can I get a breezy CD too? =p. The shipit ones we're corrupt.
[03:58] <ab0rted> Dr_House cool
[03:58] <jadaz87> IamEthos i am a music producer and i use programs like Reason and Cubase and Nuendo but they are all for windows
[03:58] <pjv> is this right to copy a directory from a remote server and placing it in the localserver "scp foo@example.com:/etc/dir/  /etc/"
[03:58] <Dr_House> Joetheodd, you can't download it ?
[03:58] <iGotNoTime> _jason:  I think I scared him away :P
[03:58] <Joetheodd> Dr_House: 56k =(, lol
[03:59] <Dr_House> :(
[03:59] <Riko> can anyone help me share my wifi connection thru my nic?
[03:59] <jadaz87> IamEthos i am looking to have a music production pc based off of linux
[03:59] <Joetheodd> Dr_House: Don't worry about it, I'll end up dist-upgrading soon, was joking about it =p
[03:59] <Dr_House> ;)
[03:59] <Joetheodd> !tell Riko about wifi
[03:59] <pjv> i can copy a file but not a directory with scp
[03:59] <arrick> Hey guys BMPx is pretty decent, no plugins to add for wma or anything
[03:59] <Joetheodd> pjv: zip, scp, and then ssh to unzip?
[04:00] <brenner> arrick: bmpx?
[04:00] <Riko> i have wifi working, my question is can i make my ubuntu box work as a gateway for all my other wired computers?
[04:00] <nickrud> ab0rted, Joetheodd if you check for local linux user groups, you could probably get a copy tomorrow
[04:00] <arrick> yeah beep-media-player next generation
[04:00] <kRaKoN> to start httpd service isn't "service httpd start" ? why i get a message that service command not found?
[04:00] <harisund> pjv, I think scp has a -r directive that you can use to recursively copy directories
[04:00] <LinuxJones> Riko: install firestarter it has a wizard that can help you set it up
[04:01] <pjv> ahh it's ok i found it
[04:01] <Joetheodd> nickrud: Neighbor has like 10x breezy CD's, but he got his from shipit so I think they're corrupt.
[04:01] <pjv> ty anyway
[04:01] <Riko> LinuxJones, thx
[04:01] <brenner> Joetheodd: corrupt how?
[04:01] <arrick> brenner, good evening
[04:01] <crimsun> jadaz87: dolson may have some pointers for you regarding a music production studio
[04:01] <ab0rted> nickrud there isnt any that i know of here in Puerto Rico, i have searched for some and found none
[04:01] <LinuxJones> Riko: good luck
[04:01] <nickrud> Joetheodd, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[04:01] <brenner> arrick: afternoon :)
[04:02] <brenner> arrick: you're a regular in here now
[04:02] <arrick> man it took me all day to get the beep-media-player to play my files
[04:02] <Riko> is it hard to setup?
[04:02] <Joetheodd> brenner: It'd get halfway through the install and say something about a package not meeting it's checksum or something like that.
[04:02] <dolson> jadaz87: do you already run Ubuntu?
[04:02] <arrick> yeah, gotta learn it, the banks changing over their network to linux
[04:02] <arrick> joetheodd, you need to redownload it, you got a bad copy
[04:02] <brenner> Joetheodd: ouch
[04:02] <kRaKoN> to start httpd service isn't "service httpd start" ? why i get a message that service command not found?
[04:02] <jadaz87> dolson yes i do
[04:03] <juztin> jadaz87, can i PM you?
[04:03] <jadaz87> juztin sure
[04:03] <JUNKPHREAK> anyone running ubuntu and dell c400  laptop ?
[04:03] <Joetheodd> arrick: I got 10 bad copies. They were shipit CD's. =p
[04:03] <jadaz87> dolson i am proud to say i have been using ubuntu for two weeks
[04:03] <dolson> jadaz87: I run the ubuntustudio.com site
[04:03] <arrick> mine are all good, where you located at?
[04:03] <biovore> kRaKoN: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:03] <jadaz87> dolson really?
[04:03] <Joetheodd> JUNKPHREAK: I'm running ubuntu on a Dell D2400 desktop, if that even comes close to helping.
[04:03] <dolson> jadaz87: we also have our own channel here, #ubuntu-studio
[04:03] <Joetheodd> arrick: Baraboo WI USA
[04:03] <kRaKoN> biovore thanks a lot
[04:04] <arrick> ubuntu right?
[04:04] <nickrud> Joetheodd, let wget spend a few nights getting the iso for you :)
[04:04] <arrick> I can ship you a good copy and it will be there in 2 days
[04:04] <Riko> LinuxJones, firestarter is a firewall tho, it'll let me setup sharing thru that?
[04:04] <JUNKPHREAK> just go this little laptop and wanted to see if it worked well with wifi and webcam
[04:04] <rcmiv> dolson: great resource, that
[04:04] <jadaz87> dolson oh ok
[04:04] <arrick> wnat it?
[04:04] <Joetheodd> arrick: Yep, Ubuntu Breezy Badger
[04:04] <dolson> thanks, rcmiv :)
[04:04] <JUNKPHREAK> go er... got
[04:05] <Joetheodd> arrick: Hey, sure. I'll PM address
[04:05] <arrick> pm me with your addy, i'll ship in the morning
[04:05] <dolson> jadaz87: it has some info about kernels and whatnot. it's a wiki, and I'm planning on adding even more soon
[04:05] <nickrud> LinuxJones, did you ever have success with the spell thing?
[04:05] <LinuxJones> Riko: yeah
[04:05] <rcmiv> dolson: I've been working through some of the information there, preemption and jackctl, etc...very cool
[04:05] <jadaz87> dolson i will be sure to check that site out
[04:05] <LinuxJones> nickrud: you need to recompile from source
[04:05] <Riko> crazy, thx
[04:06] <nickrud> LinuxJones, change some configure options I take it
[04:06] <Riko> LinuxJones, where does it install to?
[04:07] <dolson> jadaz87: feel free to join us in our channel too if you wanna chat about our project, because I'm not always in this channel.. crimsun caught me at a good time :) do you have any questions or anything right now that I can help you with?
[04:07] <LinuxJones> nickrud: I have been too busy to do it today but yeah it would have to be compiled with libsexy option
[04:07] <LinuxJones> Riko: you can find out where any installed app is by doing whereis appname
[04:07] <dolson> rcmiv: cool, glad to know I'm not the only one who uses the site. :) also, there will be a multimedia-oriented Ubuntu derivative (I assume like Kubuntu or Edubuntu) at the time of Dapper+1
[04:07] <daaku> anyone know of any `tricks` to move a running process into a screen session?
[04:07] <jadaz87> dolson is there a way to plug up M-Audio products to utilize in Ubuntu?
[04:07] <nickrud> LinuxJones, I'd like spell checking, now I have to think about whether or not I could live with xchat-gnome :) Thanks
[04:08] <DogStar> omg help... i can't find my kernel and when i try the make file it's telling me to setkernelpath
[04:08] <Riko> oooo, thx jeebus
[04:08] <DogStar> pls.
[04:08] <dolson> jadaz87: yeah, some people have good luck with them, others don't. which one do you have?
[04:08] <LinuxJones> nickrud: :D
[04:08] <rcmiv> dolson: I'm no expert, so I don't have much to contribute, but I do find the information _very_ useful
[04:08] <LinuxJones> nickrud: what are you using now ?
[04:09] <jadaz87> dolson well i am wonder about my mobile one  for my laptop which is the M Audio Fast Track
[04:09] <nickrud> LinuxJones, xchat
[04:09] <Joetheodd> As random as this may sound, "I love cron."
[04:09] <LinuxJones> nickrud: I quite like it, seems much less cluttered
[04:09] <dolson> jadaz87: is this a sound card or a MIDI controller? I assume the former?
[04:09] <DogStar> where is the location of my kernel in ubuntu?
[04:09] <rcmiv> dolson: actually, I went through yesterday and compiled a list of web links and much longer descriptions of all of the software listed in your setup list
[04:09] <DogStar> i'm seeing nothing in /usr/src
[04:09] <DogStar> absolutely nothing ><
[04:09] <jadaz87> dolson yes as a sound card
[04:10] <nickrud> LinuxJones, I like the auto text replace, I don't see a gui tool to add/change in xchat-gnome
[04:10] <DogStar> hello?
[04:10] <dolson> jadaz87: I've never heard of it before... but have you heard of it working on Linux at all?
[04:10] <LinuxJones> nickrud: what is that ?
[04:10] <nickrud> LinuxJones, then there's no right-click open dialog window, I don't wanna learn all the irc commands. Seems to defeat the point of a gui, learning commands
[04:11] <jadaz87> dolson no i have not i have heard of the bigger ones working though
[04:11] <nickrud> I type geditsources, and it's replaced with in a terminal, gksudo gedit /etc/sources.list . Delete the # at the beginning lines 19 & 20, add the word multiverse at the ends of lines 19 & 20, and save.
[04:11] <LinuxJones> nickrud: for web links that's it yeah
[04:11] <dolson> jadaz87: do you have any output relating to the sound card when you plug it in and run dmesg? is it USB, firewire, PCMCIA?
[04:11] <DogStar> LinuxJones, got a second?
[04:12] <LinuxJones> nickrud: that's cool, maybe I will be moving back to xchat :D
[04:12] <LinuxJones> DogStar: sure
[04:12] <brenner> DogStar: did you install the relevant linux-source package
[04:12] <jadaz87> dolson no i mean i have not tried attempting to plug it up because i did not want to mess up ubuntu
[04:12] <DogStar> root@Namaste:/# uname -r
[04:12] <DogStar> 2.6.12-10-686
[04:12] <LinuxJones> DogStar: your logged in a root ?
[04:12] <steven_laptop> anyone here using vmware with 6.06?
[04:13] <dolson> jadaz87: ah, you won't mess up ubuntu :) plug it in and see what happens. check the output of dmesg and see if it has anything about the module being loaded
[04:13] <DogStar> i haven't made a custom kernel - just used synaptic to get i686
[04:13] <DogStar> yes root
[04:13] <LinuxJones> DogStar: dude don't do that your asking for trouble
[04:13] <nickrud> DogStar, you may only need to do sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) , a lot of things only need headers and not the full source
[04:14] <DogStar> k it's working
[04:14] <DogStar> d/l'ing
[04:14] <painkiler> hey guys
[04:14] <DogStar> if i need the source as well how do i get those?
[04:14] <painkiler> when i try to open synaptic i get an error message
[04:14] <steven_laptop> well looks like im going to have to drop back to 5.10 :(
[04:14] <painkiler> it says it can't find my Xauthorisation file
[04:14] <DogStar> k headers went in ok
[04:15] <LinuxJones> painkiler: do you happen to have the update-notifier gui open as well ?
[04:15] <painkiler> no
[04:15] <painkiler> i upgraded to xgl though...
[04:15] <DogStar> i'm still getting an error when i try a make command in /home/osiris/madwifi-ng
[04:15] <painkiler> that could be a reason
[04:16] <DogStar> failed kernel config check
[04:16] <osiris> DogStar, why are you trying those commands in my /~  ?
[04:16] <DogStar> haha
[04:16] <DogStar> remain calm
[04:16] <osiris> lmao
[04:16] <DogStar> i'm coming to your house to pwn you :P
[04:16] <biovore> lolz
[04:16] <osiris> roflmao
[04:17] <osiris> this i gotta see
[04:17] <DogStar> atari teenage riot - speed.mp3 ;)
[04:17] <DogStar> sounds wikked when he says that..
[04:17] <DogStar> Checking kernel configuration... FAILED
[04:17] <DogStar> Only kernel versions 2.4.x and above are supported.
[04:17] <DogStar> You have .
[04:17] <DogStar> make: *** [configcheck]  Error 1
[04:18] <DogStar> blah
[04:18] <biovore> DogStar: what you tring to build?
[04:18] <DogStar> madwifi
[04:18] <DogStar> what about make setkernelpath=
[04:18] <DogStar> ?
[04:18] <DogStar> where is my kernel?!?!
[04:18] <arrick> Joetheodd, did you get the message about it being in a brown taped up package (the actual sleve, covered in tape)?
[04:19] <biovore> dose that make a kernel module?
[04:19] <DogStar> yeah
[04:19] <biovore> you will need the complete kernel source
[04:19] <DogStar> ok how can i get that?
[04:19] <DogStar> i'm surprised it's not there
[04:19] <DogStar> :(
[04:19] <biovore> make sure /lib/<kernel_version>/build points to the source tree
[04:19] <biovore> linux-kernel-source
[04:20] <zippy> hi guys.. pls
[04:20] <biovore> I think is the name of the package
[04:20] <zippy> i just installed ubuntu.. how i set a root password?
[04:20] <nickrud> linux-source-2.6.12 for breezy
[04:20] <bimberi> DogStar, biovore: linux-source-2.6.12
[04:20] <biovore> normaly ubuntu dosn't have a root password. we use sudo
[04:20] <bimberi> !tell zippy about root
[04:20] <biovore> sudo -s to get to a root terminal
[04:21] <tritium> or sudo -i
[04:21] <DogStar> ugh
[04:21] <zippy> ty
[04:21] <DogStar> i don't get it - there is no folder in /lib like that
[04:21] <zippy> so.. i can set root password using passwd on root terminal?
[04:21] <DogStar> sudo chpass
[04:21] <FlannelKing> zippy: you can, but its not recommended
[04:21] <DogStar> i ghink
[04:21] <DogStar> er sudo passwd
[04:21] <FlannelKing> zippy: I've heard that it breaks things.
[04:21] <DogStar> yeah
[04:22] <DogStar> ls
[04:22] <nickrud> sudo -i or sudo -s : to see the difference, do an env | sort after each of sudo -i & sudo -s.  sudo -i is safer.
[04:22] <zippy> ok.. i just need change it.. i dont will play at root
[04:22] <DogStar> osiris@Namaste:/lib/linux-restricted-modules$ ls
[04:22] <DogStar> 2.6.12-10-386  2.6.12-10-686  2.6.12-9-386
[04:23] <DogStar> is this looking like the right place?
[04:23] <Riko> woohoo
[04:23] <Riko> LinuxJones, you're the man, that was super easy
[04:23] <FlannelKing> zippy: like I said, I've heard that setting a root password breaks things.
[04:23] <biovore> look at uname -a
[04:23] <FlannelKing> nickrud: you'd know.  does it?
[04:23] <vipaca> I've got a simple networking issue
[04:23] <DogStar> i've set a root password and no ill effects so far
[04:23] <biovore> yeah.. you can set root password
[04:23] <nickrud> FlannelKing, no, no problems with root.
[04:24] <DogStar> Linux Namaste 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Sat Mar 11 16:22:51 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:24] <FlannelKing> nickrud: hmm, wonder where I heard it then.
[04:24] <vipaca> I'm not getting a IP does anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:24] <salah> hi,
[04:24] <biovore> look to see if this exists: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build
[04:24] <DogStar> k
[04:24] <bwlang> a root password is not a good idea... it's better to do everything by sudo... that way you have a log of root's actions
[04:24] <nickrud> FlannelKing, Personally, I've been using sudo for several years.
[04:24] <biovore> build should be a simlink to /usr/src/kernel_source_dir
[04:25] <dj-fu> It's personal preference
[04:25] <salah> How can I setup chess in Ubuntu?
[04:25] <dj-fu> I, for example, like to have a root terminal open so I don't have to prefix every god damn thing with sudo
[04:25] <vipaca> I've edited resolv to reflect my name servers and restarted /etc/networking
[04:25] <biovore> sudo -s
[04:25] <biovore> bamd your root
[04:25] <DogStar> pwd
[04:25] <vipaca> everything goes fine but I can't pull an IP
[04:25] <Xenguy> dj-fu: sudo -i (and sometimes sudo -s)
[04:25] <DogStar> k yeah i have it
[04:25] <DogStar> i'm in the dir
[04:25] <dj-fu> Thanks for telling me something I didn't want to know
[04:25] <biovore> build?
[04:25] <nickrud> dj-fu, I used to have a glaring red root terminal, then I disabled the password checking in sudo and was happy :)
[04:26] <DogStar> yeah
[04:26] <biovore> is there kenel source in there/
[04:26] <DogStar> there is a dr called kernel
[04:26] <dj-fu> nickrud, I just usually run terminal with two+ tabs open, one root, rest user
[04:26] <DogStar> arch     drivers  init    lib       Module.symvers  security
[04:26] <DogStar> cluster  fs       ipc     Makefile  net             sound
[04:26] <DogStar> crypto   include  kernel  mm        scripts         usr
[04:26] <vipaca> Is there anyway to renew your IP?
[04:26] <bwlang> dj-fu: there's not that much you have to do as root...
[04:26] <tritium> vipaca: bring the interface down and then back up
[04:26] <biovore> in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/ there should be a simlink called build that points to
[04:26] <biovore> the source tree
[04:27] <tritium> symlink, that is
[04:27] <dj-fu> bwlang, I disagree, there is plenty that I do as root
[04:27] <nickrud> dj-fu, I did too, until I rm'd /etc in my root partition when I meant to do it to my home partition
[04:27] <tritium> sym(bolic) link
[04:27] <dj-fu> been a while since I've made any mistake like that ;p
[04:27] <DogStar> ok
[04:27] <biovore> you may need to do a make on the kernel to get eveything setup
[04:27] <bwlang> dj-fu: I'm not saying you don't do lots of things as root, i'm saying you dont *have* to do most admin tasks as root...
[04:27] <Xenguy> bwlang: I actually find I use root all the time; I always have a root window or two open (but everybody works differently)
[04:27] <biovore> (note the kernel config must match that of the kernel your running)
[04:27] <bimberi> salah: do a (Description and Name) search in Synaptic for chess.  Then take your pick
[04:28] <DogStar> i don't know what to do here...
[04:28] <dj-fu> Xenguy, you've got the right idea - sucks only have a user term up, "insufficient privs". I'm always trying new packages, breaking things, fixing things
[04:28] <DogStar> my brain isn't working
[04:28] <dj-fu> It's half the fun
[04:28] <dj-fu> :P
[04:28] <vipaca> CAN SOMEONE PLZ HELP
[04:28] <bwlang> everyone does work differently... i think we can all agree that it's best to run with the least privledge necessary...
[04:28] <crimsun> vipaca: ECAPS
[04:29] <vladuz976> can someone help me? i am using grip to rip japanese cds. the fonts display fine in grip, but or some reason it only rips the songs of the cd that don't contain japanese font in the title
[04:29] <vipaca> I've got a networking issue.
[04:29] <Xenguy> dj-fu: well anyway, I've taken to doing things 'the Ubu way' and I find sudo -i works just as well as su -  :-)
[04:29] <DogStar> ummm...
[04:29] <DogStar> ?
[04:29] <dj-fu> lol ;] 
[04:29] <vipaca> when type ifconfig I have no IP how should I get one behind DHCP
[04:29] <DogStar> fuck
[04:29] <Joetheodd> @ryanmarcus hi!
[04:29] <miss_no0b> whats up ppl.  any ideas what would cause 64bit ubuntu running on 64 athlon to freeze after booting at the brown screen with ubuntu on it?
[04:29] <vipaca> and NAT
[04:30] <ryanmarcus> @ joe hey!
[04:30] <DogStar> those linux headers are messing with me now
[04:30] <nickrud> vipaca, oh, NAT, forget me :)
[04:30] <Steil> oh wow
[04:30] <Steil> network manager > *
[04:30] <Xenguy> DogStar: .oO(they tend to frown on such language here :-)
[04:30] <ryanmarcus> Anybody tried getting Ubuntu to run on an eMac? I could get Hoory Hedgehog to work, but not the most recent one
[04:30] <DogStar> sorry
[04:30] <DogStar> can someone help me though?
[04:30] <tritium> DogStar: language
[04:30] <DogStar> i have no clue what to fo
[04:31] <DogStar> do *
[04:31] <DogStar> sorry
[04:31] <vipaca> With Nat w/out Nat
[04:31] <DogStar> !
[04:31] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DogStar
[04:31] <Xenguy> !enter
[04:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:31] <vipaca> still can't get an IP
[04:31] <DogStar> this is #$%in me off.
[04:31] <Joetheodd> ryanmarcus: It'd work just fine, but I think the first shipit CDs to come out were corrupt. Might want dist-upgrade to breezy.
[04:31] <tritium> DogStar: what are you trying to do?
[04:31] <miss_no0b> any ideas what would cause 64bit ubuntu running on 64 athlon to freeze after booting at the brown screen with ubuntu on it?
[04:31] <vipaca> a little attention please
[04:32] <DogStar> i can't find my kernel
[04:32] <brenner> miss_no0b: best bet is to search ubuntuforums.org ... but maybe try appending noapic to the end of the kernel line in grub
[04:32] <miss_no0b> i cant find my bong
[04:32] <Skinux> vipaca: where is the dchp server (do you have a home router / appliance or something)
[04:32] <tritium> miss_no0b: none of that here, please
[04:32] <DogStar> when i try make (madwifi) it's giving an error - can't find kernel source - please use setkernelpath
[04:32] <nickrud> vipaca, I get a IP from my dsl modem with two lines in /etc/network/interfaces ; auto eth0     and iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:32] <ryanmarcus> @ joe I don't have it installed anymore
[04:32] <tritium> DogStar: your kernel image?
[04:32] <DogStar> i686
[04:32] <ryanmarcus> @ joe I was trying to use Live CDs
[04:32] <vipaca> No I'm in one of those apartments that has wall jacks
[04:32] <miss_no0b> geez lighten up
[04:33] <miss_no0b> alright thnx mate
[04:33] <Joetheodd> @ryanmarcus Well that obviously won't work! Download the latest install ISO + install it.
[04:33] <tritium> DogStar: what are you compiling your own?
[04:33] <dj-fu> vipaca, Try `dhclient <interface>`
[04:33] <Skinux> vipaca: net card configured for dhcp?
[04:33] <Joetheodd> @ryanmarcus And you have to type my full name or it won't show up yellowish. =)
[04:33] <DogStar> huh? i'm trying to install madwifi drivers for my atheros wifi card
[04:33] <tritium> vipaca: please cat /etc/network/interfaces | grep auto
[04:34] <Milk> good evening
[04:34] <vipaca> yes /etc/network/interfaces card say eth0 inet dhcp
[04:34] <vipaca> so I think the card is ready
[04:34] <tritium> vipaca: but does it say "auto eth0" anywhere?
[04:35] <Milk> my quick question is... gnome-pty-helper, why do I have 20-25 instances of it?
[04:35] <DogStar> tritium, someone told me to 'apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[04:35] <vipaca> well it say auto lo
[04:35] <DogStar> and that has changed the error message but not helped
[04:35] <dj-fu> vipaca, what does `dhclient eth0` say?
[04:35] <tritium> vipaca: if you want eth0 to come up automatically, you need "auto eth0" in there
[04:35] <Milk> the reason I ask is that my system seems a bit sluggish recently
[04:36] <tritium> vipaca: sudo ifup eth0 should bring it up.  What happens when you try?
[04:36] <vipaca> well I got tge dhclient to run lots of info here
[04:36] <DogStar> tritium?
[04:36] <tritium> DogStar: yes?
[04:37] <DogStar> are you helping me or not?
[04:37] <signature16> when i try to start proftpd it says, "unable to determine IP address of 'linuxtest' ...no valid server configured" whats wrong?
[04:37] <tritium> DogStar: so you installed the headers.  Are you building a kernel with make-kpkg?
[04:37] <purplefeltangel> is it ontopic to ask for Naim help here?
[04:37] <ubuntulnx> does any one use the rhythmbox applet?
[04:37] <DogStar> i'm not trying to make a kernel - i'm trying to install madwifi drivers.
[04:38] <Milk> any thoughts on a sluggish system or this gnome-pty-helper
[04:38] <DogStar> the make error is the problem
[04:38] <vipaca> alright well the dhclient eth0 actually grabbed an IP
[04:38] <DogStar> i just need the source i think
[04:38] <DogStar> not sure though..
[04:38] <ubuntulnx> does anyone know the command to start rhythmbox applet?
[04:39] <tritium> DogStar: you probably just want to build the module, in which case you only need the headers.  To build a new kernel, you'd need the full source.
[04:39] <Milk> ubuntulnx, what applet?  are you refering to rythmbox itself?
[04:39] <brenner> Milk: do you know what the executable is?
[04:39] <DogStar> ok
[04:39] <vipaca> so, Why is this not working at boot should add this command to my rc3.d scripts or something
[04:39] <ubuntulnx> milk, no the package in synaptic
[04:39] <tritium> vipaca: I told you already
[04:39] <ubuntulnx> milk, you can control rhythmbox from the panel
[04:39] <Milk> brenner, it doesn't say.. just says gnome-pty-helper
[04:40] <nickrud> vipaca, add a line with auto eth0 to right above iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:40] <Milk> ubuntulnx, so you want to start the panel aplet for rythmbox control?
[04:40] <Joetheodd> Is there a way I can read /var/mail/USERNAME in Mozilla Thunderbird?
[04:40] <ubuntulnx> Milk, yes
[04:40] <XVampireX> How do I switch to Kubuntu?
[04:40] <purplefeltangel> XVampireX: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <tritium> XVampireX: the answer you were given in #ubuntu+1
[04:40] <ubuntulnx> XVampireX, install kde and then there will be an option in the login screen
[04:40] <vladuz976> does anybody know a distro that originated in japan?
[04:40] <DogStar> this is the error tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11017
[04:40] <purplefeltangel> XVampireX: then at the login screen choose "session" and it will give you the option of selecting KDE.
[04:41] <Milk> ubuntulnx, I didn't know that exicted, other than the try icon when you start rythmbox
[04:41] <Skinux> vipaca: should be no need, just check /etc/network/interfaces, should have a line like iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:41] <ubuntulnx> Milk, no it's a little more complicated
[04:41] <ubuntulnx> Milk, but i can't figure out how to start it
[04:41] <tritium> DogStar: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:41] <Milk> ubuntulnx, have you had it working before?
[04:41] <ubuntulnx> Anyone else know how to start the rhythmbox applet?
[04:41] <ubuntulnx> Milk, no just installed today
[04:41] <DogStar> ok working
[04:41] <brenner> ubuntulnx: right-click on panel>add to panel
[04:42] <tritium> vipaca: understand?
[04:42] <ubuntulnx> brenner, it doesn't show up as a choice
[04:42] <XVampireX> purplefeltangel: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or what is it?
[04:42] <Milk> ubuntulnx, synaptic should tell you what the executable is
[04:42] <tritium> yes, XVampireX
[04:42] <ubuntulnx> brenner, nevermind
[04:42] <purplefeltangel> XVampireX: that's what you type in the terminal.
[04:42] <ubuntulnx> milk, i got it
[04:42] <ubuntulnx> thx
[04:42] <purplefeltangel> XVampireX: or go into synaptic and search for kubuntu-desktop.
[04:42] <tritium> ardinary: it's in the menu
[04:43] <jesusxp> hey guys!! i dont know my root password!
[04:43] <tritium> !tell jesusxp about root
[04:43] <jesusxp> I never got prompted to enter one, I updated my system and it asked for the password but it didnt work
[04:43] <ardinary> !tell ardinary about root
[04:43] <XVampireX> alright thanks
[04:43] <tritium> jesusxp: read what ubotu sent you
[04:43] <jesusxp> thanks
[04:43] <DogStar> make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686'
[04:43] <DogStar> make[1] : *** [all]  Error 2
[04:44] <DogStar> more errors
[04:44] <tritium> DogStar: don't paste here
[04:44] <DogStar> k
[04:44] <DogStar> but now what?
[04:45] <Jeffrae> hi all
[04:45] <tritium> DogStar: depends on the errors
[04:45] <Chris_C> Is there a way in Ubuntu/Gnome to take a screenshot (to the clipboard) like PrintScreen / Alt-PrintScreen does in Window$?
[04:45] <DogStar> k i took out the headers
[04:45] <tritium> Chris_C: just like you suggest
[04:45] <DogStar> and back to the same original error message
[04:46] <Chris_C> yeah, duh, it's late :)
[04:46] <brenner> where can we read changelogs? i.e. i'd like to know why i should update certain packages
[04:46] <DogStar> /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[04:46] <DogStar> one line pastes ok eh?
[04:46] <miguel> i've just installed my ubuntu. witch is the basic package with C development stuff. like gcc, make....
[04:46] <Chris_C> google fu :)
[04:46] <tritium> miguel: build-essential
[04:46] <Joetheodd> Is there a way I can read /var/mail/USERNAME in Mozilla Thunderbird?
[04:47] <ctooley|770> The live-dvd keeps crashing saying it can't find /dev/ram when trying to do an install
[04:47] <DogStar> any ideas?
[04:47] <Jeffrae> has anyone here compiled a kernel module before?
[04:47] <biovore> I have
[04:47] <nickrud> Joetheodd, set up an mbox account, and point it at /var/mail/username
[04:47] <DogStar> biovore!
[04:47] <tritium> DogStar: did you install the linux-headers package?  What did it install?
[04:47] <DogStar> lol
[04:48] <DogStar> i did
[04:48] <DogStar> they weren't right though
[04:48] <DogStar> i removed them
[04:48] <Jeffrae> biovore, Cool mind if I ask a question that I have been trying to get answered for weeks
[04:48] <tritium> DogStar: what do you mean that they weren't right?
[04:48] <biovore> DogStar: I have never had any luck using ubuntu's stock kernel stuff.. I always have to custom build a kernel
[04:48] <DogStar> hmm
[04:48] <Joetheodd> nickrud: What's mbox?
[04:49] <DogStar> tritium, the headers weren't the problem from the start
[04:49] <tritium> biovore: that's odd
[04:49] <biovore> mbox is a local email storage system
[04:49] <DogStar> its that the make can't find kernel path
[04:49] <tritium> DogStar: no, it's looking for the headers according to your error
[04:49] <biovore> it been said that it works.. but I never seem to have any luck
[04:49] <DogStar> so why don't we try KERNELPATH=
[04:49] <Jeffrae> Everhytime I try to compile the lirc module it asks tons and tons of questions that are unrelated to the module..
[04:49] <vladuz976> is there a website that talks about changes in dapper?
[04:49] <tritium> DogStar: because you need the headers installed
[04:49] <miguel> tritium: thanks
[04:50] <DogStar> then i just get nothing but errors regarding the headers.
[04:50] <Jeffrae> I am use make-kpkg
[04:50] <ctooley|770> This 770 is my only debian based  box.  Looks like it will stay that way
[04:50] <biovore> make kpkg works for me too :-)
[04:50] <erofee> Hi Everybody
[04:50] <Jeffrae> I have just put the .config file in my linux src directory
[04:50] <tritium> Jeffrae: good
[04:50] <Jeffrae> that made many of the questions go away
[04:50] <erofee> Has anyone here setup LAMP on Breezy?
[04:50] <nickrud> Joetheodd,
[04:50] <Jeffrae> but I still get ones lik    PNP EIDE support (BLK_DEV_IDEPNP) [N/y/?]  (NEW) make[2] : *** [oldconfig]  Int
[04:50] <Fortunato> can someone help me ?
[04:50] <Jeffrae> and etc
[04:50] <Jeffrae> hundreds of questions
[04:51] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5
[04:51] <Fortunato> i need to transfer some files from my windows computer over my router and samba isnt working right... says i need octet or something.
[04:51] <Fortunato> ?
[04:51] <tritium> Jeffrae: you don't need to compile a kernel just for the lirc modules
[04:51] <Fortunato> i searched apt-get for octet and only found a text2html so i dont know what i need.
[04:51] <Joetheodd> nickrund: hm?
[04:51] <Joetheodd> nickrud: hm?
[04:52] <jadaz87> how do i get Wired without compiling i am not good at that
[04:52] <nickrud> Joetheodd, a sec, I have someone in the office
[04:52] <nick|here> when i try to start gnome display manager it fails? how can i get details?
[04:52] <Joetheodd> nickrud: Awesome, you have an office! =p
[04:52] <Fortunato> hm
[04:53] <vipaca> thank you for the hlpe tritium I'm running to ubuntu servers out of VMWARE GSX beta
[04:53] <brenner> nick|here: what happens?
[04:53] <nick|here> nothing
[04:53] <vipaca> they are bridged and pinging the net
[04:53] <nick|here> brenner: root@sarifil:/# /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:53] <nick|here>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                                       [fail] 
[04:53] <jur1st> can someone help me troubleshoot a samba share?
[04:53] <vipaca> I have one question why would the time sych be failing?
[04:53] <tritium> vipaca: sure
[04:54] <brenner> nick|here: how'd you install ubuntu?
[04:54] <jur1st> my mac and my windows machine can see the shared folder but won't connect
[04:54] <nick|here> brenner: ??
[04:54] <truz24> Where is the correct place update the PATH variable?
[04:54] <brenner> nick|here: did you do a default or server install?
[04:54] <Joetheodd> jur1st: Because Linux rocks and they aren't worthy of Linux's shared folders. =p
[04:54] <nick|here> brenner: default
[04:55] <brenner> nick|here: what happens when you boot normally?
[04:55] <Jeffrae> tritium, I know that
[04:55] <brenner> (i assume that's the recovery console above)
[04:55] <jur1st> Joetheodd:  thank you...while the windows machine can go to hell, the macbook seems pretty worthy considering it runs bash
[04:55] <Jeffrae> udo make-kpkg --revision 2.6.12-10.30 modules_image
[04:55] <tritium> Jeffrae: just making sure.  You could simply build the modules against the headers
[04:55] <alimh> I need some help! I wss trying to install Expocity and now I don't have a window manager... aaah!
[04:55] <DogStar> i found the problem
[04:55] <Jeffrae> sudo make-kpkg --revision 2.6.12-10.30 modules_image
[04:55] <Jeffrae> that is wht I used
[04:55] <DogStar> the symlink 'build' is broken
[04:55] <DogStar> how can i repair it?
[04:55] <nick|here> brenner: i'm running gnome now. i have problem with this machine. only gnome display manager fails
[04:56] <tritium> DogStar: you installed the headers again?
[04:56] <Joetheodd> jur1st: Hm, bash cool. Bash rock. Me love bash. =)
[04:56] <vipaca> is it recommended to apt-get update after installation?
[04:56] <vipaca> Or just leave as the base layout
[04:56] <DogStar> umm one sec
[04:56] <holycow> dogstar, love the nick
[04:57] <jur1st> Joetheodd:  as do I ... I am also growing an afinity for VI, however it does me no good if i can't upload my scripts to my apache testing server
[04:57] <DogStar> thanks
[04:57] <DogStar> yeah headers in
[04:57] <Joetheodd> jur1st: I don't like vi. It's mean to me and doesn't let me type sometimes. nano/pico ftw.
[04:57] <nickrud> Joetheodd, now that I think of it, that's why I stuck with evolution, I couldn't figure it out either (and a quick look now didn't help)
[04:57] <Jeffrae> sudo make-kpkg --revision 2.6.12-10.30 modules_image  <-  IS this wrong for compiling the modules?
[04:57] <Joetheodd> nickrud: Hehe, alright.
[04:58] <jur1st> Joetheodd:  how would i redefine which workgroup the linux box is part of?
[04:58] <alimh> how do configure gnome to use metacity as the window manager?
[04:58] <Jeffrae> jur1st, in a wondows workgroup?
[04:58] <Joetheodd> nickrud: I only need it to get messages from root's crontab, so running evolution won't do anything to hurt this 2.8GHz 1GB RAM hunk of badassness. =p
[04:58] <nickrud> vipaca, update and upgrade, there are some security & bug fixes that aren't on the cd
[04:58] <Joetheodd> jur1st: Ick, not a clue.
[04:59] <Jeffrae> jur1st, Samba's smb.conf has as a section for workgroup...
[04:59] <jur1st> Jeffrae:  i suppose so...i have one each of linux, mac, and windows all sharing over samba...i can see the folder i want to share but not access it for some reason
[04:59] <tritium> alimh: it already does
[04:59] <alimh> tritium: but i screwded it up some how...
[04:59] <Jeffrae> Buckethead!
[04:59] <nickrud> Joetheodd, use dovecot to run an imap server locally, you can redirect mail from /var/mail/usr to your imap and use any client
[05:00] <jur1st> Jeffrae:  where is that config file located?
[05:00] <alimh> tritium: do you know where the file is it config the default window manager?
[05:00] <Jeffrae> jur /etc/samba/
[05:01] <Jeffrae> jur1st, /etc/samba/
[05:01] <tritium> alimh: no, sorry
[05:01] <jur1st> Jeffrae:  looks like i've changed it to match the rest of the machines....do i need to restart samba?
[05:02] <Jeffrae> i beleive so
[05:02] <jur1st> Jeffrae:  sudo samba restart?
[05:03] <Jeffrae> jur1st, I don't remember.. last time I dud it was on my SUSE pSeries
[05:03] <Jeffrae> and that was probably different
[05:03] <Jeffrae> i think you can go to system services though
[05:04] <llukax> hey what do i put in my fstab to make all my drives writeable by my user account?
[05:05] <jur1st> jeffrae:  that worked....now it's asking for a U/P when none is defined
[05:05] <brenner> llukax: what FS are they?
[05:05] <Jeffrae> hmm
[05:05] <nickrud> llukax, for ntfs & vfat, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions , for ext3 set the permissions with chmod
[05:05] <llukax> hfs
[05:05] <Jeffrae> last time I did it was for a domain
[05:05] <Jeffrae> so I do not exactly rememer
[05:05] <llukax> and ext2
[05:05] <Jeffrae> sorry
[05:06] <MikeStyle> hey guys, just made myself a 160 gig external hdd...mounted it in ubuntu by editing fstab and making /mnt/usbdrive ...but permissions are all screwie...how do i set it so my linux user(not root) can read and write to it?
[05:06] <brenner> MikeStyle: what FS is it?
[05:06] <MikeStyle> FS?
[05:06] <ardchoille> File System
[05:07] <MikeStyle> oh im not exactly sure
[05:07] <Joetheodd> nickrud: I've taken a first-sight liking to evolution, actually.
[05:07] <nickrud> llukax, same wiki page for hfs, ext2 is done with chmod as well
[05:07] <MikeStyle> Brenner, can i pm you?
[05:07] <llukax> thnx
[05:07] <nickrud> Joetheodd, I've been using evo since it was beta, I like it well.
[05:08] <MikeStyle> 0       0
[05:08] <brenner> MikeStyle: best to keep it in channel. nickrud will probably help you out anyway.  my battery's almost dead. sorry
[05:08] <MikeStyle> k
[05:08] <Jeffrae> /usr/src/linux$ sudo make-kpkg --revision 2.6.12-10.30 modules_image  <-- is the the proper way to compile a kernel module?
[05:08] <brenner> MikeStyle: good luck
[05:08] <nickrud> mounting seems to be the issue tonight :)
[05:08] <vladuz976> does the upgrading from one release to the next work pretty smooth in ubuntu?
[05:09] <nickrud> MikeStyle, do you just want one user to be able to write to the partition?
[05:09] <MikeStyle> nickrud, yea
[05:09] <nickrud> MikeStyle, brb, office time
[05:09] <MikeStyle> k
[05:10] <MikeStyle> wait...office?
[05:10] <Jeffrae> hello does anyone know of another ubuntu channel where people can help me with my module copiling issue?
[05:10] <MikeStyle> Jeffrae whats the problem
[05:11] <Jeffrae> I am trying to compile a kernel module and I am getting asked all sorts of questions.. hundreds..
[05:11] <MikeStyle> ohh
[05:11] <Jeffrae> but I still get ones lik    PNP EIDE support (BLK_DEV_IDEPNP) [N/y/?]  (NEW) make[2] : *** [oldconfig]  Int
[05:11] <MikeStyle> lol
[05:11] <MikeStyle> whats ur computer
[05:12] <Jeffrae> homebuilt
[05:12] <Jeffrae> It asked less question after adding the .config to my kernel source directory
[05:12] <MikeStyle> specs of mobo + hdd?
[05:12] <Jeffrae> why should it even ask this?
[05:12] <Jeffrae> It is asking hundreds of different questions
[05:12] <MikeStyle> i have no idea 0_o
[05:12] <Jeffrae> like latency cycle and etc
[05:12] <Jeffrae> i am just trying to get lirc working :)
[05:12] <nickrud> MikeStyle, what type of fileysystem did you put on the usb drive
[05:13] <MikeStyle> nickrud...i forget
[05:13] <MikeStyle> nfts?
[05:13] <Jeffrae> fat32
[05:13] <Jeffrae> if you want to use it on windows too
[05:13] <MikeStyle> well i set it up from my windows box with the cd they gave me
[05:14] <Jeffrae> MikeStyle, thanks for the compassion though :)
[05:14] <Joetheodd> Woo, now I'm mad at my school. They block external Novel GroupWise email accessing. =p
[05:14] <DBO> Novell
[05:14] <MikeStyle> im in high school...they use citrix thin clients...they suck
[05:14] <Jeffrae> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20952.html  <--  The bottom posts are my problems with compiling a kernel module..
[05:14] <Joetheodd> DBO: Same thing. =p
[05:15] <DBO> =P
[05:15] <MikeStyle> anyone tried enterprise desktop 10 yet?
[05:15] <DBO> thin clients... why cant they just call them dumb terminals like they used to?
[05:16] <MikeStyle> anyway...how can i find out the FS of my ehdd?
[05:16] <MikeStyle> lol
[05:16] <MikeStyle> i do
[05:16] <MikeStyle> they think more highly of them
[05:16] <Jeffrae> Because dump terminals were more on the Char only days?
[05:16] <Jeffrae> I dubnno
[05:16] <Jeffrae> hehe
[05:16] <DBO> oooh, they add GUI and suddenly its less dumb?
[05:17] <Jeffrae> hehe
[05:17] <nickrud> MikeStyle, mount | sort lists all your mounted drives with some info about them
[05:17] <Jeffrae> dunno dude
[05:17] <Jeffrae> My workplace uses Windows CE as terminals
[05:17] <MikeStyle> "mount | sort" ?
[05:17] <DBO> enter it into a command prompt
[05:18] <crouchingMonkey> i need a simple to use GUI ftp client, any ideas ?
[05:18] <DBO> which OS?
[05:19] <DBO> GNOME has a built in FTP client
[05:19] <DBO> simple and easy to use
[05:21] <makaveli> crouchingMonkey,  i use gFTP
[05:21] <ardchoille> " MEPIS Linux, an easy-to-use distribution for Linux beginners, have switched their base system from Debian to Ubuntu Linux. "
[05:21] <ardchoille> w00t!
[05:21] <Joetheodd> Woo!
[05:21] <FliesLikeALap> can anyone tell me how to disable my touch pad on my laptop?
[05:21] <fiendskull9> howdy
[05:21] <DBO> howdy
[05:21] <fiendskull9> anyone using dapper?
[05:21] <FliesLikeALap> fiendskull9  #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[05:22] <nickrud> all kinds of anyone's in #ubuntu+1
[05:22] <jesusxp> I cant get to synaptic in console, I used sudo -i
[05:22] <jesusxp> and then typed synaptic
[05:22] <nickrud> jesusxp, exactly, you cannot do that
[05:22] <fiendskull9> jesusxp, sudo synaptic
[05:22] <nickrud> jesusxp, if you want to call synaptic from the command line, use gksudo synaptic , note gksudo
[05:22] <jesusxp> I need gnu make to install a toolchain, and I already thought apt-get -t testing install automake would do it
[05:23] <nickrud> jesusxp, wrong distro :)
[05:23] <jesusxp> thanks .. so I shouldn't have used sudo -i and apt-get
[05:23] <jesusxp> :S
[05:23] <nickrud> lol
[05:23] <jesusxp> what have I done :(
[05:24] <DBO> its easier if you dont ask those questions, hurts less
[05:24] <nickrud> jesusxp, you need apt-get install build-essential , that pulls in gnu make & some other stuff
[05:24] <gn0me> Has anyone been unable to use CTRL-ALT-+ to change resolutions?
[05:24] <gn0me> Mine stopped working.
[05:24] <jesusxp> merci
[05:25] <jesusxp> and i can use that as sudo -i
[05:25] <jesusxp> or should i gksudo
[05:25] <nickrud> jesusxp, sudo -i for command line stuff, gksudo for gui stuff
[05:25] <jesusxp> thanks
[05:25] <nickrud> jesusxp, it's a home directory permission protection scheme :)
[05:25] <jesusxp> Im new to ubuntu and you guys are great!
[05:26] <jesusxp> I used synaptic
[05:26] <Fortunato> mike?
[05:26] <Fortunato> oh
[05:26] <jesusxp> after i sudo -i I noticed im in a wierd dir, I cd .. out of it and im in the home
[05:26] <Fortunato> nvm
[05:26] <jesusxp> is that ok?
[05:26] <Fortunato> ubuntu ...
[05:26] <Fortunato> hm
[05:26] <nickrud> sudo -i or sudo -s : to see the difference, do an env | sort after each of sudo -i & sudo -s.  sudo -i is safer.
[05:26] <fiveiron> anyone running an nvidia card with tv out?
[05:26] <Fortunato> everyone should get xfce
[05:26] <Fortunato> or the new gnome.
[05:26] <Fortunato> the new gnome is supposed to be as fast as xfce.
[05:26] <Fortunato> bye now.
[05:26] <gn0me> New gnome isn't much different.
[05:27] <gn0me> :-\
[05:27] <fiendskull9> the new kde is gonna rock
[05:27] <fiendskull9> 3.5
[05:27] <gn0me> :)
[05:27] <fiendskull9> i love gnome
[05:27] <nickrud> point releases of gnome never change a whole lot, but there's always something done well
[05:27] <fiendskull9> but the new kde looks sweet
[05:28] <gn0me> Had anyone ever had CTR-ALT-+ and - not work? I only recently noticed mine stopped working, and it used to.. just wondering if anyone knows how to fix that.
[05:28] <fiendskull9> gn0me, mine doesnt work either :-/
[05:28] <gn0me> aha!
[05:29] <biovore> gn0me: well it dosn't change if you only have 1 resolution on the xorg.conf
[05:29] <fiendskull9> CONSPIRACY@
[05:29] <prime38> what kernel does the most recent stable release have?
[05:29] <fiendskull9> OHHHHH
[05:29] <gn0me> Yeah, I have multiple in there.
[05:29] <jesusxp> whats archive manager from the command line?> Im trying to install amsn, and its not letting the .ubuntu.deb open as my regular jesusxp user
[05:29] <biovore> prime38: 2.6.156 I think
[05:29] <fiendskull9> i found the best server machine (cheap) iveever seen
[05:29] <biovore> 16
[05:29] <NickGarvey> .
[05:29] <gn0me> You'd have to "sudo dpkg -i amsn.deb" I think
[05:29] <prime38> biovore: thank you
[05:29] <gn0me> But I'm not sure.
[05:30] <bhoman> ls
[05:30] <fiendskull9> its old gateway (99' i think) but it was before they started oputtinjg out shit. and its got amd athlon fx 64 (upgraded after mobo fry). 200 mb of ram (upgradeable to 4 gb) and a cheap ass gfx card
[05:30] <nickrud> whatever the deb is, sudo dpkg -i <deb> yeah
[05:30] <fiendskull9> and gigabit ethernet card
[05:30] <bhoman> h
[05:30] <fiendskull9> definately gonna grab it and put fedora 3 on it
[05:30] <jesusxp> yeah i was thinking dpkg might work too.. thanks
[05:30] <fiendskull9> and run http server on it :)
[05:30] <fiendskull9> brb
[05:32] <jesusxp> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amsn:
[05:32] <slavik> wine is awesome :D
[05:32] <nickrud> jesusxp, if it says you need a package, install the package and try again
[05:33] <fiveiron> anyone running an nvidia card with tv out?
[05:33] <WebMaven> Hi folks. I have plugged in a USB HP 4200c scanner, and it shows up in the device manager, but XSane says it can't find any available devices. What do I do to get my scanner working under Ubuntu (Breezy)?
[05:34] <jesusxp> hm... dpkg is installed tho
[05:34] <nickrud> jesusxp, no, it's saying that dpkg found some problems with the package you tried to install, not that dpkg is not there
[05:35] <nickrud> jesusxp, you could post the error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:35] <schloob> anyone know what the server is for sound?
[05:35] <fiveiron> esd
[05:35] <bhoman> q
[05:35] <fiveiron> ?
[05:35] <schloob> it's alsasound on any normal distro, ubuntu does it weird :x
[05:35] <jesusxp> k. thanks
[05:36] <WebMaven> So, any advice/help with my scanner?
[05:36] <crimsun> schloob: no, we do it the sane way.
[05:36] <slavik> WebMaven: plug your scanner in and reboot
[05:36] <crimsun> schloob: what's your sound issue?
[05:36] <schloob> crimsun: i've got no sound :x trying to do cat /usr/bin/gcc > /dev/dsp gives me "no such device"
[05:36] <WebMaven> slavik: reboot?
[05:37] <crimsun> schloob: is your computer new or old?
[05:37] <WebMaven> slavik: will I have to do that every time I want to plug it in?
[05:37] <slavik> yes ... you know, that procedure you did/do with windows to keep it sane?
[05:37] <schloob> it worked before i upgraded to dapper drake (i just realized there's a separate channel for this, checking there now)
[05:37] <slavik> WebMaven: maybe, but try it
[05:37] <nickrud> lol
[05:37] <bulot> Hey Guys. Guys do You kno, if there is something funky with Ubuntu 5.10 and Touch Pad in Laptops...???
[05:38] <WebMaven> I *know* what rebooting is, I'm just surprised.
[05:38] <holycow> bulot: nope, always worked here
[05:38] <WebMaven> slavik: Do you know why this is necessary, given that the device is showing up in the device manager?
[05:38] <bulot> Mine Ubuntu/Gnome is working weird is opening windows, looks like is super sensitive
[05:38] <Gau> We need a liveCD with fsck.uf  :9
[05:38] <yvette> is there a software that plays MP3 files for ubuntu linux?
[05:39] <jesusxp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11019
[05:39] <bulot> Hey yvette
[05:39] <WebMaven> yvette: yes, but not by defsult.
[05:39] <bulot> xmms...
[05:39] <slavik> WebMaven: I dunno, just try it
[05:39] <bulot> but you need to do somethig else
[05:39] <slavik> WebMaven: if it works, then you know there is something to do with proper detection and such
[05:39] <WebMaven> slavik: OK. see y'all in a bit.
[05:40] <Wo|f> Was wondering if anyone could help me with a little script I'm working on
[05:40] <yvette> ahh linux newbie, and i've been trying to learn it
[05:40] <yvette> what is XMMS?
[05:40] <pab1> who here can explain some things to me about ssh?
[05:40] <bulot> Go here Yvette http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-33071.html
[05:40] <biovore> XMMS == Winamp
[05:40] <yvette> bulot: thanks
[05:40] <yvette> biovore: thanks
[05:40] <bulot> xmms is a media player
[05:41] <Wo|f> I've got xplanet and xplanet-images installed
[05:41] <Wo|f> and the script does what it's supposed to for the most part
[05:41] <Wo|f> just can't figure out one small detail
[05:41] <slavik> breezy uses totem-xine or totem-gstreamer ?
[05:41] <mlalkaka> i have an idea for the ubuntu wiki: we should create a page called UbuntuTutorials. On that page, as you probably expect, there would be tutorials on how to use Ubuntu Linux. but the tutorials should be video tutorials (with a narrator). programs like xvidcap or istanbul could be used to record the audio/video, and we could save it in ogg theora, so there are no patent problems.
[05:41] <mlalkaka> what do you people think?
[05:41] <Jeffrae> hi
[05:41] <mlalkaka> hi Jeffrae
[05:42] <biovore> mlalkaka: I think exist already somewhere
[05:42] <crimsun> slavik: by default? the latter
[05:42] <slavik> crimsun: no clue, hence the question :P
[05:42] <slavik> oh, nvm
[05:42] <mlalkaka> biovore, oh? lemme google
[05:42] <slavik> not on the ball today :P
[05:42] <Jeffrae> Has anyone done this cammand before..?? --> sudo make CC=gcc-3.4
[05:43] <slavik> what is apic and lapic for?
[05:43] <biovore> mlalkaka: wiki and forums.. ussualy covers just about everything
[05:43] <slavik> Jeffrae: no
[05:43] <holobyted> how can I config gnome to open all dialog windows (input boxes, message boxes, etc) in the center of the screen? they seem to open up on random places
[05:43] <nickrud> Jeffrae, it would be CC=gcc-3.4 make
[05:43] <biovore> export CC=gcc-3.4  && make
[05:43] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:43] <nickrud> Jeffrae, you shouldn't use sudo with make, not good practice
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> How to compile a deb and then (separately) install it, with a customized name so it doesn't conflict?  (I want to play around with building firefox, without messing up the real one.)
[05:43] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:44] <nickrud> biovore, I like mine better ;P it goes away
[05:44] <Jeffrae> so to set my gcc enviroment to 3.4 I should do ---->    CC=gcc-3.4 make
[05:44] <biovore> yeah.. something like that
[05:44] <nickrud> Jeffrae, yes, if you export it it stays active for further commands, if you use it on the same command line without export, it only applies for that one command
[05:45] <mlalkaka> biovore, i know wiki's and forum's have a wealth of knowledge -- more than can ever be recorded in videos. but for new ubuntu users, i think video tutorials look professional. it shows the quality of community support ubuntu has to offer
[05:45] <Jeffrae> when I do that it asks me 101 questions that I don't know how to answer
[05:45] <biovore> mlalkaka: never though of doing that..
[05:45] <nickrud> mlalkaka, you should ask about that on #ubuntu-doc
[05:45] <slavik> tonyyarusso: you can't
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> slavik: How come?  It must be possible at some level.
[05:46] <slavik> tonyyarusso: unless you comepile in a diff dir ... you don't need to do "make install" ... as 'make' should ciompile everything
[05:46] <mlalkaka> NickGarvey, thanks i will.
[05:46] <slavik> alternatively, use the prefix parameter for configure
[05:46] <gamma> i'm very impressed with dapper right now.. i see no reason why people what have trouble switching from windows to linux.. there's no command line involved it seems
[05:46] <slavik> tonyyarusso: are you compiling from deb or you have a tarball?
[05:46] <slavik> gamma: how long have you used dapper?
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Ah, so that will give me something I can run, but not a package.
[05:46] <nickrud> lmao, gamma until something goes wrong
[05:47] <slavik> tonyyarusso: if you use the prefix command, it should install ALL files (don't quote me on that) into the dir you specify
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Tarball.  I'm changing random stuff in some files just for kicks.  (It's evil...)
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Hmm...okay.
[05:47] <slavik> tonyyarusso: use the prefix parameter to configure
[05:47] <slavik> like: ./configure --prefix=/opt/evilfox
[05:47] <slavik> or something
[05:48] <jax0m>             _,.-----.,_
[05:48] <jax0m>          ,-             -.
[05:48] <jax0m>        ,^___           ___^.
[05:48] <jax0m>       / "    "   .   "    " \  .--------------------.
[05:48] <jax0m>      |  ,--._    |    _.--.  | |      CAUTION       |
[05:48] <jax0m>      | /  _   -.   ,-   _  \ | |--------------------|
[05:48] <slavik> then make && make install
[05:48] <jax0m>     _| |((o))))/   \((((o))| |_|  Packets are being |
[05:48] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, there are mechanisms for that, take a look at the debian new maintainer's gude
[05:48] <jax0m>   .'   (__,.--" .^. "--.,__)   '. recieved.         |
[05:48] <jax0m>  (           / /   \ \           )                  |
[05:48] <jax0m>   \_____ _  /  \/"\/  \  _ _____/ What course of    |
[05:48] <jax0m>    \_ _ _                 _ _ _/  action do you     |
[05:48] <nickrud> !ops
[05:48] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[05:48] <jax0m>      |  ||  \  |   |  /  ||  | |  wish to take?     |
[05:48] <slavik> jax0m: never do that again please
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[05:48] <jax0m>         \  '-----------'  /
[05:48] <rob> bah
[05:48] <Kyral> ....whow thats something you don't see evertday
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> slavik: I'll give it a shot.
[05:48] <GNU_Style> FREAKY!
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Thanks.
[05:48] <Jeffrae> where is the thing to paste output?
[05:49] <Jeffrae> what is that site
[05:49] <slavik> noirequus: thank you.
[05:49] <slavik> !pastebin
[05:49] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - You can install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar
[05:49] <jesusxp> noone knows my dependecy problem?
[05:49] <Jeffrae> so I don't act like jax0m and flood the chanel
[05:49] <slavik> jesusxp: what dependancy trouble?
[05:49] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, ask on -motu, there's a simple way to bump a package version. I just don't know how without some research again
[05:49] <Wo|f> Well, I posted it as Wolf
[05:49] <Wo|f> my script that is
[05:49] <Wo|f> :)
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: What would bumping the version do?
[05:51] <fiveiron> YES!!
[05:51] <fiveiron> i got my tv output working!!
[05:51] <gamma> slavik: i've been using dapper for kubuntu for 4 months, with ubuntu for like 2 weeks, gentoo for the last 5 years
[05:51] <Wo|f> ^5's fiveiron
[05:51] <gamma> nickrud: yea.. true then you're screweed :
[05:51] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, it would change the package verison (for example -0ubuntu1 to -0ubuntu1.1) and your package would not be replaced by ubuntu until a new, higher version was released
[05:51] <frank23> gamma: why did you switch to ubuntu?
[05:51] <nickrud> gamma, speak for yourself ;P
[05:51] <lampshade> Anyone happen to know in here since #mplayer is dead, what file I need to edit so that mplayer STOPS trying to use xv and instead uses somethiing like gl
[05:51] <slavik> gamma: I hear gentoo is very efficient :P
[05:51] <lampshade> because it isn't the obvious answer like mplayer.conf (>_<)
[05:52] <slavik> gamma: are you running an old PC?
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: I want to be able to install them side by side.  I want to *keep* the Ubuntu one, and just tinker with this.
[05:52] <nickrud> lampshade, ~/.mplayer/config I think, see !mplayer
[05:52] <gamma> frank23: i was sick of waiting an hour to compile x
[05:52] <gamma> slavik: pentium 4, 3ghz 512 ram :P 3 years old, but not much has changed
[05:52] <Jeffrae> here..
[05:52] <slavik> gamma: no wifi?
[05:52] <holobyted> lampshade, /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf gives a vo=XXX answer... you can use vo=gl ?
[05:52] <Jeffrae> I am trying to compile a kernel module...
[05:52] <slavik> connecting to a wap point?
[05:52] <Jeffrae> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11024
[05:52] <slavik> wpa point
[05:52] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, that's not so simple. Truely. Better to config to /opt :)
[05:53] <gamma> slavik: yea i've got wifi, but i know how to get that working since i did everything from scratch with gentoo
[05:53] <frank23> lampshade: ~/.mplayer/config  maybe.... not really sure
[05:53] <gamma> ndiswrapper
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: 'k.
[05:53] <gamma> i've even broken my system on dapper, but through command line and previous knowledge fixed it
[05:53] <nickrud> holobyted, try mplayer -vo help  it lists a lot
[05:53] <holobyted> I know that, wasn't my question though :p
[05:54] <slavik> gamma: my wifi workk too, but I can't for the life of me figure out wpa_supplicant business
[05:54] <lampshade> holobyted, vo=gl has traditionally only been the option that has worked on this machine :-/  I don't know.  I used the wiki guide to go to ff 1.5 and it broke a lot of mplayer plugin stuff and right now it keeps bitching that I don't have support for xv which before even it didn't work well
[05:54] <lampshade> slavik, what's the problem with it?  do you have wifi working for unencrypted stuff?
[05:54] <holobyted> check /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf ?
[05:54] <nickrud> holobyted, doh
[05:54] <Cyorxamp> Lo, what can use windows Drivers... but is not Windows ?
[05:54] <slavik> lampshade: and for wep
[05:54] <gamma> slavik: get networkmanager... makes wifi easy
[05:55] <slavik> I can't figure it out for wpa stuff
[05:55] <slavik> gamma: that's for dapper
[05:55] <slavik> I am using breezy
[05:55] <gamma> oh you're on breezy?
[05:55] <slavik> won't upgrade till dapper goes final
[05:55] <jur1st> would anyone know why my macbook would not connect to a linux samba share?
[05:55] <gamma> slavik: aww.. how come? it's stable now..
[05:55] <HeatBlazer> hello
[05:55] <jur1st> when i try to connect it says the location of the alias is no longer there
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> What exactly is the difference between 'make' and 'make install'?
[05:55] <HeatBlazer> I need an urgent help
[05:56] <slavik> gamma: flight5 != final
[05:56] <slavik> :)
[05:56] <holobyted> tonyyarusso, make just compiles the package... make install actually installs it
[05:56] <_jason> tonyyarusso: make just compiles, make install will put the files in /
[05:56] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, make builds the program & support goodies, make install actually moves stuff to the locations you set in config
[05:56] <holobyted> HA! I win
[05:56] <slavik> tonyyarusso: make calls make which will look for Makefile and use commands for some "standard" process (ie: compile everything)
[05:56] <llukax> where is the kernel directory in kubuntu?
[05:56] <llukax> :/
[05:56] <slavik> make install will do commands listed under target "install"
[05:57] <slavik> which is usually just copying files and adding to system variables
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> holobyted, _jason, nickrud, slavik: Okay, I think that makes sense.  Thanks all.
[05:57] <nickrud> better info, takes longer. slavik wins :)
[05:57] <holobyted> :(
[05:57] <holobyted> holobyted++
[05:57] <_jason> he used enter 3 times though, 1 point deduction
[05:57] <lampshade> slavik, ummm for me it was fairly easy, just followed the guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90450&highlight=wpa+ipw2200 and it worked like a charm
[05:57] <lampshade> did someone mention that WPA is included with Dapper????
[05:57] <lampshade> tha'ts nuts if true
[05:57] <Jeffrae> Who here has really compiled a kernel module?
[05:57] <slavik> lampshade: I am using ndiswrapper
[05:58] <slavik> and my wpa config has to be different
[05:58] <slavik> my school runs wpa-ttls or whatever
[05:58] <slavik> with eap-pap
[05:58] <holobyted> so... how can I config gnome to open all dialog windows (input boxes, message boxes, etc) in the center of the screen? they seem to open up on random places
[05:58] <slavik> not wpa-psk
[05:58] <nickrud> lampshade, Candidate: 0.4.8-0ubuntu2 for wpasupplicant
[05:59] <JAyRULE> hey all!! im still trying to get my ethernet card to work... can anyone help me out?! ref http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10893
[06:00] <slavik> also, since I forget things, what's the command to restart x server without killing it and starting it again (I want it to re-read the config file)
[06:00] <MistaED> ctrl+alt+backspace? *shrugs* that kills it though but it restarts automagically
[06:00] <Gau> For some reason I can't launch Synaptic (it's saying that aptitude or apt-get or something is already open, even though it doesn't seem to be...how can I fix this?
[06:01] <jadaz87_> hey guys is it a bad idea to enable Breezy Backports? What if ubuntu now says there are updates after i enables them? :-Z
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> How to paste into a textbox in any cli web browser you know how to for?
[06:01] <MistaED> gau: is the auto-update program open?
[06:02] <Gau> I'm not sure...how can I tell?
[06:02] <Wo|f> Hrm. Well, I guess if anyone likes my script, they're welcome to try it out. Do with it what you will
[06:02] <slavik> tonyyarusso: I don't think it's possible ...
[06:02] <Gau> what's the process name?
[06:02] <Wo|f> just doesn't update the background image automatically
[06:02] <Wo|f> *shrugs*
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Dang.  (I have a suspicious looking thing from .configure)
[06:02] <slavik> jadaz87_: you are smarter than ubuntu :) you pick should be installed ...
[06:02] <nickrud> JAyRULE, I don't see an ethernet card in lspci, without it showing there linux cannot use it
[06:02] <Wo|f> on the desktop that is
[06:02] <st3v3dnd> Does anyone know why Firefox crashes when I right click on a flash animation? I'm running FF 1.5.0.1, flashplayer-mozilla is 7.0.25.
[06:02] <slavik> tonyyarusso: better start typing :P
[06:02] <Wo|f> you have to manually change it
[06:02] <Gau> MistaED: do you know the process name?
[06:02] <Wo|f> :)
[06:02] <MistaED> gau: i can't remember, sorry
[06:02] <jjinux> Hi, I'm ssh'ing to another box and running gvim from there.  The fonts are *huge*...
[06:03] <slavik> wait, you want to paste from command-line into a GUI browser?
[06:03] <jadaz87_> slavik i do not know what should be install :-(
[06:03] <slavik> ie: firefox?
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> slavik: :)
[06:03] <jjinux> It didn't act like this in Fedora.  Any clues?
[06:03] <MistaED> gau: i'm in opensuse atm, so i can't check
[06:03] <Kritical> Anyone know the command to reset network interfaces?
[06:03] <slavik> jadaz87_: don't install it then
[06:03] <Luzer> da, xgl
[06:03] <Kritical> sudo invoke-rc.d network reset? something like that?
[06:03] <slavik> Kritical: ifconfig eth0 down and then ifconfig eth0 up
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> slavik: That's what I'm going to do instead, gotta run in a GUI shell to do that though (or screen it).
[06:03] <Jeffrae> Anyone know how to compile a kernel module?
[06:04] <Kritical> slavik: I'm doing it remotely, know a way that wont knock me offline?
[06:04] <WebMaven> slavik: still no joy after rebooting.
[06:04] <slavik> tonyyarusso: you can redirect the stuff from configure
[06:04] <Jeffrae>  am trying to use  make-kpkg --revision 2.6.12-10.30 modules_image
[06:04] <JAyRULE> nickrud: well, isnt there a way to enable it, somehow?
[06:04] <slavik> WebMaven: then I dunno what to say ...
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> slavik: With a > or somthing?
[06:04] <slavik> hmm, should try my scanner
[06:04] <slavik> tonyyarusso: yes
[06:04] <slavik> and 2>
[06:04] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, try searching for python pastebin script on google, one of those might help
[06:04] <WebMaven> slavik: is there something I should have installed or configured?
[06:04] <slavik> you want to put the errors somewhere else
[06:04] <Mixx> Is there a way to recover the MBR with an Ubuntu install disc?
[06:04] <jadaz87_> slavik but it says new versions what are backports for anyway?
[06:04] <Wo|f> !xgl
[06:04] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Will look into that later.
[06:04] <slavik> WebMaven: from what I know, it should work
[06:05] <nickrud> JAyRULE, it's a hardware problem, either it's not socketed properly, it's bad, it's disabled in bios, or some such
[06:05] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need help
[06:05] <Wo|f> ah crud, I'm runnin' Breezy still
[06:05] <slavik> jadaz87_: I have no clue what backports are for, I think they are safe though
[06:05] <Wo|f> :(
[06:05] <Kritical> Anyone know the command to reset network interfaces? (a way that will work through ssh?)
[06:05] <jadaz87_> !backports  ??
[06:05] <ubotu> well, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[06:05] <jadaz87_> !botsnack
[06:05] <ubotu> thanks jadaz87_ :)
[06:06] <Wo|f> !botsnack
[06:06] <nickrud> Kritical, sudo invoke-rc.d network restart <--- I think would work
[06:06] <shadeofgrey> my system is reporting the wrong time.  is there a way to force my machine to synchronize with the time servers ive chosen?  the button to do that is greyed out even though i installed ntp support...  whats the command that i can run through a command prompt to make it syncronize the time properly?
[06:06] <nickrud> Kritical, but of course you'd lose the current session
[06:06] <JAyRULE> nickrud: currently, win98 and ubuntu and installed.... the ethernet works perfectly fine under win 98...
[06:06] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: make your connection static
[06:06] <slavik> nickrud: what's the command to restart the x server?
[06:07] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: how do i make my connection static?
[06:07] <nickrud> JAyRULE, why it doesn't show in lspci then I don't know
[06:07] <Kritical> nickrud: cheers =)
[06:07] <nickrud> slavik, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart (you should do that from a virtual console, not inside X)
[06:08] <WebMaven> slavik: OK, so how do I diagnose this further?
[06:08] <NickGarvey> !static
[06:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, static is you can set your connection to static to help solve DHCP problems, here is a sample interfaces config http://www.sematopia.com/?p=50
[06:08] <NickGarvey> !ext2win
[06:08] <ubotu> it has been said that ext2win is You can view ext2 and ext3 on windows by using this http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:08] <nickrud> shadeofgrey, if it's set up right, sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate start
[06:08] <WebMaven> !scanner
[06:08] <slavik> nickrud: ty
[06:08] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[06:09] <slavik> WebMaven: I have no idea ...
[06:09] <joevandyk> How do I start the network manager applet?
[06:09] <slavik> WebMaven: disconnect your scanner
[06:09] <joevandyk> (in dapper)
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> slavik or any others: Okay, my output snippet from ./configure is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11025 - what's it mean?
[06:09] <slavik> tonyyarusso: install libgtk2-dev
[06:09] <Jeffrae>  make-kpkg --revision 2.6.12-10.30 modules_image   <-- How do I do this?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> slavik: That's an easy answer.  :)
[06:09] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, install libgtk2.0-dev
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Thanks to you too.
[06:10] <slavik> ran into same problem today with a epsxe plugin
[06:10] <BlueHeron> what the hell am i supposed to do with a set of .rar's that have an .exe on them
[06:10] <slavik> WebMaven: then do 'dmsg' from terminal
[06:10] <Kritical> When initializing network interfaces fails.. what file contains the logs?
[06:10] <bimberi> joevandyk: 'nmapplet &'    (iirc)
[06:10] <slavik> then connect your scanner, wait like 10 second and do the same command
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> slavik, nickrud: Oh my.  That has a few dependencies!
[06:10] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, yup. big time
[06:10] <slavik> yes it does, it's a dev package
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> slavik, nickrud: Shouldn't there be a better way of informing people what -dev package they need from these errors?  How are you supposed to know?
[06:11] <slavik> I was thinking of a tool that would show you all the packages that are not depended on
[06:11] <nickrud> Kritical, /var/log/syslog
[06:11] <slavik> tonyyarusso: it tells you right there
[06:11] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, it does, it does!
[06:11] <slavik> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found
[06:11] <bimberi> !tell joevandyk about network-manager
[06:11] <crimsun> slavik: apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[06:12] <bimberi> joevandyk: 'nm-applet &' rather
[06:12] <Cyorxamp> Hi, could I lend someone experienced with cups (the printing service) to help me work out why my printer will not work?  If so just PM me... than
[06:12] <slavik> crimsun: not me, tonyyarusso :P
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> slavik, nickrud: So just put lib in front, take out the +-, and add -dev on the end.
[06:12] <slavik> tonyyarusso: use synaptic
[06:12] <slavik> and search for gtk2
[06:12] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, pretty much. That gets you very close, if not exactly correct, most every time
[06:12] <fiveiron> bleh
[06:12] <slavik> libgtk2-dev I think
[06:12] <slavik> hold on
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> slavik, nickrud: Okay.
[06:12] <WebMaven> slavik: there are detailed instructions for my scanner on this page, which I just found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo
[06:12] <fiveiron> VLC doesn't like to be opened on a desktop other than the main one...
[06:13] <unL33Tn00b> !dapper
[06:13] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:13] <slavik> WebMaven: even better :D
[06:13] <TorChile> how many of you use Dapper flight 5?
[06:13] <jur1st> I'm having some issues with samba sharing between ubuntu and my mac...i can see the shares but can't make a connection...would i need to enable something else in the config file?
[06:13] <unL33Tn00b> !channel
[06:13] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, unL33Tn00b
[06:13] <joevandyk> bimberi, nm-applet doesn't seem to do anything.
[06:13] <crimsun> Flight 5 is outdated. =)
[06:14] <TorChile> crimsun: ??
[06:14] <joevandyk> i run nm-applet and nothing happens
[06:14] <GnomeWrecker21> I have a question about LTSP
[06:14] <shadeofgrey> ntp ntpdate ntpserver and ntp-simple are all installed
[06:14] <crimsun> TorChile: a bunch of fixes have been applied since Flight 5 was released.
[06:14] <TorChile> oh
[06:14] <bimberi> joevandyk: kk, have a look at that wiki page and see if has any clues
[06:14] <shadeofgrey> do i need to remove them and reinstall them before i can synchronize my time and date properly?
[06:14] <GnomeWrecker21> I have my Terminal server up and running at home
[06:14] <TorChile> if I dist-upgrade to Dapper now, is anything likely to break??
[06:15] <nickrud> TorChile, but they're only a apt-get dist-upgrade away
[06:15] <GnomeWrecker21> it's working great!
[06:15] <joevandyk> bimberi, I did, and it doesn't say why nothing would happen when I run the nm-applet command.
[06:15] <swiadek> How to configure an Ad-Hoc mode for an Intel Pro 2915ABG wireless NIC in Ubuntu v5.1 ?
[06:15] <bimberi> joevandyk: have you got an extra icon in the notification area?
[06:15] <TorChile> dist-upgrade from breezy to Dapper
[06:15] <GnomeWrecker21> but when i open the terminal on the server and type "who" or "w" it only shows me being logged in, why? someone is logged in on the thin client
[06:15] <TorChile> ??
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> slavik, nickrud: Okay, what about this one?: configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required
[06:15] <slavik> tonyyarusso: libgtk2.0-dev
[06:16] <joevandyk> bimberi, no
[06:16] <slavik> that's a parameter
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Got the package.  What's the parameter bit mean?
[06:16] <TorChile> is dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper safe??
[06:16] <TorChile> now
[06:16] <TorChile> ??
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Do I need to manually preface with that for it to work?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> I wouldent do it. :P
[06:16] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, any other info
[06:16] <joevandyk> bimberi, (i'm using dapper and network-manager 0.61, btw
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> i tend to do clean installs.
[06:16] <TorChile> me too
[06:17] <bimberi> joevandyk: hm, 'ps aux | grep nm-applet' show anything?
[06:17] <TorChile> but I'm curious
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Yeah.  I'll do another paste.
[06:17] <fiveiron> hmm
[06:17] <fiveiron> whats a good video player other than vlc?
[06:17] <fiveiron> and mplayer
[06:17] <frank23> fiveiron: xine (like totem-xine and kaffeine-xine)
[06:18] <jesusxp> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kx0NvA84.html
[06:18] <TorChile> how many of you dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper??
[06:18] <jesusxp> anyone understand why the make doesnt make
[06:18] <bimberi> joevandyk: ah, dapper, try this page then - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperNetworkManager
[06:18] <joevandyk> bimberi, yes, it's running
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> nickrud, slavik: Another paste, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11026
[06:18] <slavik> ./configure --enable-application=APP --prefix=...
[06:18] <joevandyk> bimberi, i already was referring to that page
[06:18] <jur1st> TorChile:  considering the issues i'm having right now i'm thinking about doing it in the next few minutes
[06:19] <bimberi> joevandyk: you're ahead of me then :) sorry, out of ideas :|
[06:19] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, try ./configure --help , that may give you some indication of what that is
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Okay.  So it's smart, but not enough to then add that on it's own.
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Will look.
[06:19] <rybuntu> anyone know how i can find the location of my printer .. im trying to setup a smb printer through swat
[06:20] <bimberi> jesusxp: make isn't installed by default - 'sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:20] <bimberi> '
[06:20] <slavik> tonyyarusso: Linux and Unix don't do things for you
[06:20] <slavik> they tell you what to do
[06:20] <slavik> they are like the greek gods ...
[06:20] <slavik> they don't force you to do things, they make you want to do things
[06:20] <dev_imut> hai
[06:20] <TorChile> hear hear
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Embrace the Penguin!
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Point.
[06:21] <slavik> dev_imut: goto #ubuntu-jp :P
[06:21] <dev_imut> hai
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> slavik: I like the analogy, btw.
[06:21] <slavik> BAKA!!!
[06:21] <slavik> tonyyarusso: it's what it is ...
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Phear the Penguinista!
[06:21] <jesusxp> I have build-essential
[06:22] <jesusxp> thats why im so wierded out
[06:22] <pyromith> anyone know what files in a user's directory gnome-window-decorator uses?
[06:22] <slavik> build-essential should come by default until all of ubuntu is off gcc3.x
[06:22] <TorChile> if I want to dist-upgrade
[06:22] <slavik> no idea
[06:23] <slavik> TorChile: backup your data
[06:23] <TorChile> should I change the breezy info in the CD as well
[06:23] <drcode> hi all
[06:23] <TorChile> I mean the cd entry in sources.list
[06:23] <devians> in a cron job, if i have command > file.txt, is it possible to do it so command > file$timestamp.txt ?
[06:23] <TorChile> I have a separate home partition
[06:23] <pyromith> hmm, anyone else?
[06:23] <nickrud> TorChile, there's an app to help with upgrading to dapper, see ubotu below
[06:23] <crimsun> jesusxp: do you have autoconf and automake1.9 installed?
[06:23] <nickrud> !upgrade
[06:23] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[06:24] <slavik> TorChile: back it up anyway
[06:24] <dev_imut> haoi
[06:24] <jesusxp> oh yeah
[06:24] <jesusxp> i certainly do my friend
[06:24] <TorChile> thanks
[06:24] <bur[n] er> anyone else think it would be a lot cooler if bugs.ubuntu.org pointed to launchpad?  so many apps are bugs.blah.org
[06:24] <slavik> haoi = blue, isn't it?
[06:24] <crimsun> jesusxp: it looks like the pspsdk is just broken
[06:24] <slavik> bur[n] er: easier for you, not devs :P
[06:25] <jesusxp> nonsense:P its worked many a times for me on other flavors
[06:25] <bur[n] er> slavik: it could just be a redirect :)
[06:25] <jesusxp> I even installed lower automakes to make sure i caught everything i could
[06:26] <slavik> bur[n] er: good point, then someone is lazy
[06:26] <bur[n] er> slavik: any idea who could hold the power to make that change?
[06:27] <pyromith> hmm, is there a way I can monitor which files a process accesses?
[06:27] <AngryElf> what package do i need to get qmake?
[06:27] <crimsun> jesusxp: no, it really does look like it's broken in that current directory
[06:27] <nickrud> pyromith, lsof and fuser
[06:28] <crimsun> jesusxp: please start with a fresh untar and bootstrap it
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> slavik, nickrud: It looks like it's working now, btw.
[06:28] <pyromith> thanks, nickrud
[06:28] <jesusxp> will do
[06:28] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, ./configure, fix, ./configure, fix, ...... :)
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Yep!
[06:29] <jesusxp> its svn tho
[06:29] <jesusxp> not tar
[06:29] <youngpilgrim> hello
[06:29] <frank23> AngryElf: Not sure... you can probably use make instead of qmake
[06:29] <youngpilgrim> i have a question
[06:29] <crimsun> jesusxp: so check it out again
[06:29] <youngpilgrim> how do i get verdana and other web fonts installed on ubuntu?
[06:29] <youngpilgrim> and how come they are installed by default
[06:29] <nickrud> youngpilgrim, install msttcorefonts
[06:29] <youngpilgrim> okay
[06:29] <youngpilgrim> can i do that with synaptic?
[06:29] <bur[n] er> yes
[06:30] <nickrud> youngpilgrim, yes. You may need to enable the universe & multiverse repos if you haven't already
[06:30] <slavik> youngpilgrim: ubuntu people are not allowed to distribute them I think
[06:30] <dev_imut> hai
[06:30] <slavik> dev_imut: shin nu kudasai!!!
[06:31] <jur1st> torchile:  i'm going to dapper as we speak
[06:31] <youngpilgrim> oh okay thanks
[06:32] <youngpilgrim> i just want the binary ones right
[06:32] <MachineScrew> why do I have Britsh English in GNOME on Dapper Drake
[06:32] <nickrud> youngpilgrim, they're the only ones you need, yes.
[06:33] <nickrud> MachineScrew, you can choose your language at the login screen
[06:33] <MachineScrew> oh didn't see that I thought it defaulted to US English
[06:33] <elbixio> hi everybody. just a doubt. is the dvd u can download from ubuntu mirrors a live cd?
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> I take it back...it looked like it was working, but I have a zillion errors from "gtk2xtbin.c"  :(
[06:34] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, I usually bailed out there, unless I could guess about a library that wasn't properly checked with configure
[06:35] <slavik> tonyyarusso: there is always a time to learn
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: It sounds like it's complaining about the code syntax, but I didn't touch any of that.  It's Mozilla's - it must work.
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Yeah, it's called summer. :)
[06:35] <MachineScrew> Ok but I have us english selected as default but yet I still see thing in Like the tab for GNOME Terminal is Colour but shoud be Color
[06:36] <slavik> in one of my programs I forgot to put a ; after a class definition ... gave me trouble in the header file following mine
[06:36] <nickrud> or was
[06:36] <MachineScrew> GAIM's default message is "Sorry old chap, I've stepped out for a while!"
[06:36] <youngpilgrim> well i enabled both the universe and multiverse repositiories
[06:36] <youngpilgrim> and refreshed
[06:36] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, I used to compile mozilla so I could compile galeon, and that piece of software is far out of my league by every measure.
[06:37] <youngpilgrim> but when i search for mstt i only get an xserver-driver package
[06:37] <slavik> MachineScrew: must be a UK version
[06:37] <nickrud> youngpilgrim, try searching for java-package , if you enabled multiverse properly that will show up
[06:37] <MachineScrew> slavik: Thats what I thought
[06:37] <youngpilgrim> no it doesnt
[06:38] <youngpilgrim> let me try setting the pref again
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Yeah, all I did though was change things like what the Help > About box's text was, nothing code-related, so I don't know what's wrong here.
[06:38] <nickrud> youngpilgrim, if you can't find that, put your /etc/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:38] <MachineScrew> eather that or US English is screwy
[06:39] <nickrud> MachineScrew, what does locale in a terminal give you as your language?
[06:39] <slavik> MachineScrew: I guess the aussies get "be back later, mate"
[06:39] <slavik> and canucks: "be back later, nice goal, eh?"
[06:39] <MachineScrew> right
[06:40] <IdleOne> slavik, theres more then just hockey in Canada, we have polar bears also :P
[06:40] <hannele> don't forget trees and rocks and rocks and trees...
[06:40] <jesusxp> goddamn error again
[06:40] <jesusxp> same one
[06:40] <TokenBad> in xchat on ubuntu all of a sudden for some reason instead of msg tabs or whatever all I am seeing is like notices in the channel...anyone know how to fix that?
[06:40] <youngpilgrim> java-package is still not showing up even though all the repositories are checked and refreshed
[06:41] <youngpilgrim> weird
[06:41] <slavik> IdleOne: do you have one in your backyard?
[06:41] <nickrud> youngpilgrim, in a terminal, gksudo gedit /etc/sources.list . Delete the # at the beginning lines 19 & 20, add the word multiverse at the ends of lines 19 & 20, and save.
[06:41] <MachineScrew> nickrud: this might be the problem line LANGUAGE=en_US:en_GB:en
[06:41] <IdleOne> TokenBad, check in Settings>preferences
[06:41] <slavik> when I watch south park, I get the feeling that canada was made for US to make fun off
[06:41] <IdleOne> slavik, asa matter of fact I do and his name is fluffy
[06:41] <nickrud> MachineScrew, it looks like you don't have en_US installed, so it's falling back to en_GB . odd.
[06:41] <TokenBad> IdleOne, I did...didn't see anything in there related to that...
[06:41] <youngpilgrim> when i do   pico /etc/sources.list  it creates a new file..
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> slavik: And vice versa.
[06:41] <MachineScrew> nickrud: no I have it
[06:42] <hannele> tonyyarusso: amen ^_^
[06:42] <slavik> IdleOne: is it the kind of fluffy like in harry potter?
[06:42] <nickrud> youngpilgrim, sorry, /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:42] <MachineScrew> nickrud: this is first LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[06:42] <slavik> I hear the frenchies there like to smoke ...
[06:42] <hannele> slavik: ever heard of a little segment called "talking to americans"?
[06:42] <CryoTox> Can any one recommend a good Alarm Clock type application.
[06:42] <IdleOne> TokenBad, under tabs in preferences at the bottom left
[06:42] <IdleOne> slavik, yeah
[06:43] <slavik> I actually read about that ...
[06:43] <nickrud> MachineScrew, same as mine, and I have color
[06:43] <slavik> makes me sad
[06:43] <TokenBad> IdleOne, in tabs I have it set to open dialogs in tabs...its been set that way..
[06:43] <slavik> hannele: when iraq "war" started, someone took a survey and found that mroe people knew where iraw was than new jersey ...
[06:43] <slavik> sad, really
[06:43] <GTroy> how do I force kill xmms when killall -9 doesn't work?
[06:43] <MachineScrew> I did have Dapper Filght 5 from CD but did an upgrade recently
[06:44] <IdleOne> TokenBad, change it then change it back see if that helps
[06:44] <hannele> neh, i should stop ragging.
[06:44] <CryoTox> Can any one recommend a good Alarm Clock type application?
[06:44] <MachineScrew> it might also depend on if you just apt-get dist-upgrade or CD install of Dapper
[06:44] <slavik> hannele: I mean, look at our president ...
[06:44] <IdleOne> TokenBad, is you Tabs Location set to Hidden?
[06:45] <nickrud> CryoTox, apt-cache search alarm clock shows a few ...
[06:45] <swiadek> How to change NIC to an Ad-Hoc mode permanently ?
[06:45] <CryoTox> Thanks
[06:46] <michael_> aight, quick question... getting opera to work with java and flash
[06:46] <TokenBad> IdleOne, no..says its set to bottom
[06:47] <TokenBad> IdleOne, I changed it...pressed ok...then went back in..changed it back...and pressed ok again...and still only in channel..
[06:47] <IdleOne> TokenBad, have you installed any pluggins lately that might have changed something around?
[06:47] <TokenBad> IdleOne, no...
[06:47] <MachineScrew> so for US english it should be "Yo mofo, I's out for wile bbl"
[06:47] <IdleOne> TokenBad, try asking in #xchat they might be able to help more
[06:47] <TokenBad> ok
[06:48] <slavik> MachineScrew: wtf?
[06:48] <nickrud> !oper
[06:48] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[06:48] <IdleOne> TokenBad, I know that if you have to many tabs open it will send /notice in main window
[06:48] <nickrud> !opera
[06:48] <ubotu> opera is, like, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[06:49] <TokenBad> IdleOne, this only started yesterday..was working before that
[06:49] <MachineScrew> slavik my gaim message ... thats what is should be for US english
[06:49] <MachineScrew> lol
[06:49] <nickrud> michael_, the wiki page from ubotu above talks about java & the like under opera
[06:49] <IdleOne> TokenBad, sorry I dont know what could cause it
[06:49] <slavik> MachineScrew: no
[06:50] <slavik> MachineScrew: US = Rap is thought in too many places
[06:50] <michael_> ty
[06:50] <MachineScrew> slavik: I was j/k
[06:50] <slavik> I went onto a russian channel on rusnet and was told that my english sucked ...
[06:50] <TokenBad> IdleOne, asked in xchat..just waiting on answer
[06:50] <MachineScrew> slavik: I don't even like rap and I can't spell a country accent
[06:50] <slavik> I live in US for almost 10 years ... I use it every fucking day and they tell me it sucks?
[06:50] <slavik> you can't spell a country accent?
[06:50] <painkiler> hey guys
[06:51] <painkiler> could you tell me where I could find libmozjs.so?
[06:51] <IdleOne> TokenBad, be patient :)
[06:51] <_jason> !find libmozjs.so
[06:51] <TokenBad> IdleOne, yep
[06:51] <TokenBad> heheh
[06:51] <MachineScrew> slavik: of course I don't like country eather I am more of a Rock/Goth kind of guy
[06:51] <slavik> MachineScrew: go cut yourself then ...
[06:51] <slavik> mainstream > goth!!! :D
[06:52] <nickrud> MachineScrew, I was told on #ubuntu+1 , look at system-admin-language support
[06:52] <slavik> power to the mainstream!!!
[06:52] <_jason> painkiler: web/mozilla-browser universe/web/nvu web/firefox and mail/mozilla-thunderbird according to ubotu
[06:52] <MachineScrew> nickrud: did that US English is default
[06:52] <wsjunior> how to start a new session?
[06:52] <painkiler> thanx _jason
[06:52] <_jason> painkiler: you could install the apt-file package and search yourself as well
[06:52] <MachineScrew> nickrud: whent into Synaptic and also all locales for english are there installed
[06:53] <wsjunior> i'd like to start a new session from gnome, is it possible?
[06:53] <MachineScrew> slavik: already did not to kill my self but for body mods ;)
[06:53] <_jason> wsjunior: system tools > new login ?
[06:54] <painkiler> _jason: how do i search in apt-file?
[06:54] <wsjunior> jason_, can't see that option
[06:54] <_jason> painkiler: first sudo apt-file update, then just do apt-file search filename
[06:54] <MachineScrew> slavik: some day I will have them outlined via tattoo
[06:54] <slavik> MachineScrew: go fuck marilyn manson in the ass, he has boobs, too :P
[06:55] <MachineScrew> slavik: don't like MM he is a poser
[06:55] <crimsun> ok, that's way off-topic.
[06:55] <slavik> so, goth people are into linux because they want to be "uncomformist" ?
[06:55] <slavik> sorry, crimsun, nothing else to talk about
[06:55] <painkiler> hmm
[06:55] <painkiler> yeah
[06:55] <MachineScrew> slavik: yep
[06:56] <slavik> crimsun, do you think that calculating 25^1312000 is worthwhile?
[06:56] <slavik> basically, parallelizing FFT
[06:56] <MachineScrew> slavik: I also like that free software evolves more quickly than comercial software
[06:56] <wsjunior> _jason, got it. thanks.
[06:57] <crimsun> slavik: I think I have a ton of bugs to help fix, and so that question is very, very low priority.
[06:57] <MachineScrew> slavik: as well I don't have the mony to buy software nor do I wish to pirate any
[06:58] <TokenBad> IdleOne, person in xchat helped..thanks
[06:59] <IdleOne> TokenBad, glad they helped :)
[07:00] <TokenBad> had to use this command from in xchat..the settings in menu wasn't working
[07:01] <slavik> can I switch modes for x server on the fly?
[07:01] <slavik> I am in 24bpp mode, I want to switch to 16bpp mode
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> slavik,  Hmm.. seen where ya can change res on the fly.. never noticed bpp changes
[07:02] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know of any file transfer tools that will let me interface with the memory on my PDA (Palm OS) ?  The system is able to find it with the Palm Devices tool in preferences, but I can't bring up it's filesystem in any way
[07:02] <clever> when i was using wine it was able to change my res on the flu
[07:02] <clever> fly*
[07:03] <Luzer> peace
[07:05] <linux5> lol
[07:07] <bill__> hello!     How do i create a desktop shortcut to open a samba share?
[07:10] <NsOmNiAc> I need a list of the up to date repositories
[07:11] <NsOmNiAc> !ubotu repositories
[07:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:11] <pulgoki> proftpd the best ftpd choice at the time?
[07:11] <pulgoki> and is the fact that it doesnt currently support encrypted passwords been an issue?
[07:12] <bill__> i tried adding smb://computer_name/D  to a launcher and it didn't open the drive.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> in many cases you can use ssh - and never need ftp these days
[07:12] <pulgoki> ive never transfered files over ssh
[07:12] <bill__> Dr Willis - .How do i create a desktop shortcut to open a samba share?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> bill__,  sure its not smb:/// or was it smb:\\\
[07:12] <pulgoki> is it simple?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> bill__,  i just go to the share and set a bookmark
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> i hate icons ont he desktop
[07:12] <dcheng> transfering files over ssh is most easily done via command scp
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> for windows to linux.. winscp is handy.
[07:13] <pulgoki> scp?
[07:13] <pulgoki> i'll read
[07:13] <dcheng> more or less same syntax as cp
[07:13] <bill__> Okay. let me do that instead.
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> ssh is well worth learning the ins and outs of.
[07:13] <dj-fu> tar copying files down a ssh tunnel = the winner
[07:14] <bill__> still with samba already working - all i wanted to do was drag a shortcut to my desk. (shrug)
[07:14] <Jeffrae> hi
[07:14] <bill__> It begins copying the entire 300 gig drive over the network when i try. - lol
[07:15] <pulgoki> Dr_Willis: im looking to transfer files from a remote location.  still possible using scp?
[07:15] <charles`> I'm ripping a dvd with dvd shrink and it is putting my system into 100% proc use (almost all IO wait).  My whole UI is getting unresponsive.  This is with a USB drive, so I can't use dma can I?.  I'm running on a dual core 2.8ghz, why is file IO making the UI totally unresponsive?
[07:15] <bill__> scp is what i have been told is the thing to use.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> pulgoki,  scp is always a good idea. :P
[07:15] <Frogzoo> which is better - wget or curl?
[07:16] <bill__> and something else calledd "fuse" is worth googling. - heard that also
[07:16] <dcheng> example syntax: scp -r /home/user/test user@host:/home/user/test
[07:16] <dcheng> or use rsync for backups / copies.
[07:17] <Frogzoo> I like: tar zcf - /home | scp user@host:/home/user
[07:18] <|Wey|> how i can to another people for ssh connect to my shell?
[07:18] <|Wey|> of my computer
[07:18] <Frogzoo> we0: ssh person@machine
[07:19] <|Wey|> but..
[07:19] <|Wey|> is my pc
[07:19] <jesusxp> i got the subversion, tried ./toolchain.sh , and again, it f'd, something about autoconf
[07:19] <jesusxp> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kx0NvA84.html
[07:19] <|Wey|> another people he want to conect
[07:19] <Jeffrae> hi
[07:19] <Jeffrae> how can i list the installed modules?
[07:19] <TokenBad> what was command for installing a deb file?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> a lot of programs have a ftp-like interface to ssh also.
[07:19] <Frogzoo> Jeffrae: tough one this: lsmod
[07:19] <|Wey|> but how?
[07:20] <Frogzoo> !deb
[07:20] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[07:20] <|Wey|> becausse my friend will be puit in putty my ip he dont joined
[07:20] <Jeffrae> thanks
[07:20] <Frogzoo> np
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> if hes using windows - have him use winscp
[07:21] <dcheng> |Wey|, just have sshd running and your friend should be able to ssh to you.
[07:21] <Jeffrae> Frogzoo, thanks dude
[07:25] <timmytheturtle> hello, anyone around?
[07:26] <rus1> I'm around.
[07:26] <timmytheturtle> Would you be able to help me?
[07:26] <rus1> But I don't know if I can help you.
[07:26] <timmytheturtle> Do you now anything about mounting hard drives?
[07:26] <rus1> timmytheturtle: Usually the best thing to do around here is just say your question, and if someone knows the answer, they'll tell you.
[07:26] <rus1> timmytheturtle: I know enough to mount the one I have in my computer. What are you wondering about?
[07:27] <timmytheturtle> ahh okay
[07:27] <timmytheturtle> Okay, I just installed ubuntu on the family computer (dual boot w/ XP), I can mount hard drives fine (i use ubuntu on the computer in my room), even though the drive is mounted. I can't access it (only root can)
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> :(
[07:28] <timmytheturtle> Ahh, so it's  common problem?
[07:29] <rus1> Dr_Willis: Did you want to field that question, then?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> timmytheturtle,  use the 'user' (or was it users) option in the fstab - to let users mount the hd's
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:29] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[07:29] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:30] <sfar> something cool: a friend sent me a file yesterday.. we got 500kb/sek when he was in linux.. and 100kb/sek from windows :)
[07:30] <sfar> we tried several times
[07:30] <sfar> \o/
[07:33] <unL33Tn00b> Question Am trying to update to Dapper... Looks like it finished downloading..then term dislpays http://pastebin.com/628223
[07:33] <unL33Tn00b> Could somebody take a look and tell me if I'm correct and I want to type "Y"?
[07:34] <FlannelKing> unL33Tn00b: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> id say replace it.
[07:34] <sfar> yea id press y
[07:34] <unL33Tn00b> Thanks guys.
[07:35] <sfar> unL33Tn00b, try googleing "login.defs" :)
[07:35] <unL33Tn00b> Sorry for using incorrect channel FlannleKing.  Thought that was like Dapper Chat and this was "OMFG, is it broke? Help!"
[07:35] <harisund> Hey everyone, is there a way I can turn off animations in Gnome? For example, when I minimize, I don't want to have a genie effect, and instead want it to just vanish
[07:35] <bimberi> unL33Tn00b: unless i know i've modified the file myself i go with Y in that situation
[07:35] <unL33Tn00b> Thanks again.
[07:37] <timmytheturtle> Alright got my drive's mounted. Thanks people
[07:37] <bill__> bimberi - Can you show me how to edit a launcher to open a samba share?
[07:37] <babo> Hi guys, I have an SQL statement like this   SELECT VALUE WHERE DATE1=$DATE OR DATE2=$DATE OR DATE3=$DATE OR DATE4=$DATE ...    what's the easiest way to find out which of the columns has matched my date ? ie. DATE2 ? DATE3 ?
[07:39] <bimberi> bill__: not sure about that one i'm afraid.  If you connect to a share (via Places -> Connec to Server...) it will add an icon to the Desktop
[07:40] <bill__> Okay, I will try that.  places network servers didn't give me that.
[07:40] <harisund> is there a way I can change the default Gnome window manager from metacity to something else?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> harisund,  yes you can change it. :p
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> harisund,  what ya wanting to change it to - is the big Q.
[07:42] <bimberi> bill__: if they're not showing then make sure the following setting is checked in the Configuration Editor (Apps -> System Tools) /appl/nautilus/desktop, volumes_visible
[07:42] <harisund> Yes, Dr_Willis, I was assuming I could.. Could you please explain how?
[07:42] <charles`> ocate gamin | grep bin  returns nothing, anyone know the name of the gamin executable?
[07:42] <charles`> err locate
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> harisund,  i think ya just fire up the gconf editor and chagne it in there some where.. ive had bad luck changeing it in the past.
[07:42] <bill__> bimberi. - Ah - good tip. - didn't know to check that.
[07:42] <beaver_> how do I install debian packages ?
[07:43] <intrade> hi whats the live cd from ubuntu ?
[07:43] <intrade> is it merphix
[07:43] <bimberi> intrade: ubuntu has its own LiveCD
[07:43] <intrade> ok some guy says it freezes
[07:43] <intrade> can you install the live cd after?
[07:44] <bimberi> beaver_: 'sudo dpkg -i file.deb'
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> I hear the dapper live cd is installable.. but never tried it
[07:44] <beaver_> thx
[07:44] <intrade> HELP with ubuntu linux
[07:44] <intrade> 	i'm running the live version. after everything loads and a brown screen with ubuntu appears it just freezes and my mouse no longer moves. any suggestions. the ubuntu forums are pretty much useles
[07:44] <intrade> thats what he wrote
[07:44] <bimberi> beaver_: try to find an ubuntu package first though :)
[07:44] <rishi> sup yall
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> intrade,   could test out the dapper live cd.. see if it works better
[07:45] <intrade> any way of testing his cd for faults?
[07:45] <bimberi> intrade: the LiveCD has various boot options (accessible using the Function keys at the boot prompt) that could be tried
[07:45] <rishi> hey, how hard is it to install the new gnome onto breezy?
[07:45] <intrade> ok i pass info on
[07:45] <intrade> i never used  ubuntu
[07:46] <bimberi> intrade: you should :P
[07:46] <dj-fu> intrade, there's an option on the boot menu to check cd for defects
[07:46] <dj-fu> on dapper anyway
[07:47] <rishi> anyone?  how hard is it to install gnome? easy/hard?
[07:47] <intrade> na i got a better version of debian but i pass it on
[07:47] <Hexidigital> hey guys... what do the green markings next to the top two names in this channel mean? admins?
[07:47] <bill__> bimberi. - Aw heck,  lol - configutration editor > apps >> sticky notes  (blanks for system?)   totem.  - i guess using a firefox to open that directory isn't too bad. - grin
[07:47] <intrade> whats default on ubuntu now kde?
[07:47] <Hexidigital> intrade, last i installed, gnome
[07:47] <timmytheturtle> gnome on ubuntu
[07:47] <rishi> intrade: depends on which install you get
[07:47] <jmartini> intrade: its gnome for ubuntu and kde for kubuntu
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Kubuntu = kde.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu=gnome
[07:48] <bill__> was hoping to edit a launcher to open nautilus. - heh
[07:48] <sks>  When I try to start gok, I get the error : " GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified  are supported and host-based authentication failed. ** ERROR **: Could not locate registry"  What is the problem ? (Breezy)
[07:48] <harisund> Sorry Dr_Willis, I lost connection, could you probably guide me through making Gnome use fluxbox instead of metacity?
[07:48] <bimberi> bill__: :)
[07:48] <intrade> ok all i run here is kanotix
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> harisund,  i say check the ubuntu wiki/forums
[07:48] <intrade> soe does linus torwalds
[07:48] <Hexidigital> intrade, get Kubuntu
[07:48] <harisund> Oh, ok will do ..
[07:49] <intrade> na i stick with kanotix
[07:49] <rishi> what is kanotix?
[07:49] <Hexidigital> rishi beat me to it
[07:49] <intrade> Host/Kernel/OS  "bh02" running Linux 2.6.11-kanotix-7 i686 [ KANOTIX 2005-02 ] 
[07:49] <intrade> CPU Info        AMD Duron clocked at [ 1294.560 MHz ] 
[07:49] <intrade> Videocard       nVidia NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]   XFree86 4.3.0.1  [ 1024x768 @75hz ] 
[07:49] <intrade> Network cards   Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet, at port: d400
[07:49] <intrade> Processes 96 | Uptime 25days | Memory 497.625/502.75MB | HDD ST320014A,ST3120026A Size 140GB (24%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! | GLX Version 1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.74 | Client X-Chat 2.6.1 | Infobash v2.50rc10
[07:49] <bill__> ""
[07:49] <bill__> !paste
[07:49] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:49] <rishi> oh lord...don't flood
[07:49] <rishi> haha
[07:49] <intrade> only infobash we always do it
[07:50] <intrade>  /join #kanotix
[07:50] <intrade> will get you there
[07:50] <intrade> its debian sid
[07:50] <intrade> klaus knopper is also in there
[07:50] <rishi> has someone updated gnome on their breezy?
[07:50] <bimberi> cannotix :P
[07:50] <Hexidigital> no thanks, intrade, i like my ubuntu
[07:51] <intrade> ok same here
[07:51] <Hexidigital> it's nice to me
[07:51] <Hexidigital> :)
[07:51] <intrade> il pass the info on
[07:51] <intrade> i dislike ubuntu as they seem to go down the track of billy boy gates
[07:51] <rishi> you can't ask for a better community...when they answer your question! :)
[07:51] <Hexidigital> why do you say that?
[07:52] <Hexidigital> rishi, i concur... these people are the best... and most of them will go out of their way to help
[07:52] <bimberi> intrade: that's a very interesting remark, please elaborate
[07:52] <zach> hey everyone i was wondering....does ubuntu have support for multiple monitors...my windows system has 3 and i was thinking bout putting ubuntu on it...also is there any way to play games like the sims2 or aoe2 on ubuntu?
[07:52] <Hexidigital> yes, intrade, i am also looking for some elaboration
[07:53] <intrade> no ubuntu make there pakets so they are incompatible with any other debian
[07:53] <Hexidigital> will fixres help zach?
[07:53] <rishi> zach: there should be support, although i haven't searched for it
[07:53] <Hexidigital> !tell zach about fixres
[07:53] <timmytheturtle> I've goten 2 dual displays to work through moding my xorg.conf
[07:53] <Hexidigital> zach, try that
[07:53] <unperson> I want to setup an FTP server to let a few friends (on Windows systems) get a file now and again.  My thought was to install an ftp server (probably vsftp) on a non-standard port and setup a fake user just for this purpose, say "robertpaulsin".  In the /etc/passwd file I'd set robertpaulsin's shell to /dev/null.  Is this a resonable thing to do, or is there a bit security issue with this?
[07:53] <zach> okay
[07:53] <rishi> zach: you should be able to play those games with a lil tweaking using wine, its one hell of an emulator
[07:53] <iGotNoTime> welcome back rishi :)
[07:53] <b3nw> I just loaded the new 6.04 and did the upgrades, and after it stuck me in a resolution lower than 800x600, is it possible to undo the last round of updates or should I just wipe it and use 5.10?
[07:53] <intrade> i seen some swearing of kanotix users who tryed to use ubuntu.debs
[07:53] <rishi> iGotNoTime: sup man, how you doin
[07:54] <zach> okay i will try that i wasent shure if wine would run them
[07:54] <iGotNoTime> :P
[07:54] <iGotNoTime> bout to go offline to setup my asterisk
[07:54] <intrade> kanotix pakets run fine on  ubuntu kano makes it full debian compatible
[07:54] <rishi> iGotNoTime: i forgot to change my nick to a girls name so i can get help.
[07:54] <iGotNoTime> haha
[07:54] <rishi> iGotNoTime: what's asterisk
[07:54] <intrade> ok then laters i tell the guy to get mirc and come here him self
[07:55] <Frogzoo> intrade: debian compatible != ubuntu compatible
[07:55] <sfar> asterisk and obelisk
[07:55] <Hexidigital> what guy?
[07:55] <iGotNoTime> rishi: you are newer to this than me!
[07:55] <bimberi> intrade: that is definitely not the intention of what ubuntu does
[07:55] <intrade> some guy who  tryed to run ubuntu
[07:55] <rishi> iGotNoTime: damn right i am...i am a straight up n00b
[07:55] <Hexidigital> intrade, oh
[07:55] <ralpho> I just got ubuntu up and holy cow dapper found my broadcom wireless
[07:56] <bimberi> intrade: this page has information about its relationship with debian, i'm not sure if it explains that particular issue but might be worth a read anyway - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[07:56] <intrade> ok bimberi  it seemd to me as 5the pakets where non compatible they way they where stripped down or something
[07:56] <iGotNoTime> rishi: well you know how you have a phone company, and then you have Vonage....
[07:56] <rishi> iGotNoTime: right...asterisks is a VOIP provider?
[07:56] <bimberi> intrade: kk
[07:56] <iGotNoTime> rishi: with Asterisk basically you pay 10% of what Vonage costs and you operate the phone company from linux
[07:56] <intrade> k seyas
[07:57] <Frogzoo> rishi: asterisk is an open source voip engine
[07:57] <bimberi> intrade: cya :)
[07:57] <rishi> iGotNoTime: woah...SWEEEEET!
[07:57] <iGotNoTime> so basically I can setup 30 different phone lines at my house for free
[07:57] <rishi> iGotNoTime: now that is pretty badass.
[07:57] <iGotNoTime> all with extensions and every feature imaginable
[07:57] <bill__> let's hear it for FOSS!
[07:57] <rishi> iGotNoTime: but why do you need it?
[07:57] <iGotNoTime> rishi: it cuts my phone bill from $900 per year to $40 per year
[07:57] <ralpho> the first release of win 98 had voip for free then it was blocked about 1/2 year later
[07:58] <Frogzoo> ralpho: codec licensing I"m guessing
[07:58] <httpdss> can someone tell me howto avoid this message when i search the ubuntu forum ?? (message: "In order to accept POST request originating from this domain, the admin must add this domain to the whitelist.")
[07:58] <rishi> iGotNoTime: what in the shit are you spending 900 dollars on?
[07:58] <ralpho> phone companys shitting
[07:58] <julio_> hi , im noobi in ubuntu and i think i ruin the sources.list , because i cant install anything, how can i fixed
[07:58] <beaver_> thx a lot for the help -managed to install the programs I intended.Have a good day
[07:59] <esc_ape> how do you hook a phone to your comp? headset?
[07:59] <Frogzoo> httpdss: contact the web master I'd guess
[07:59] <iGotNoTime> rishi: my phone bill was 68 dollars a month with the features, tax and long distance charges
[07:59] <unperson> Er, so I see talk of setting up vitual users and stuff for ftp, but if I basically just want one account for a few people to use communally, is there any good reason not to just create a user with the shell /dev/null?
[07:59] <rishi> julio: hit sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and get rid of the comments around the debs
[07:59] <rishi> iGotNoTime: wow...that's pretty hardcore...mines 40
[07:59] <bill__> julio - i think there is a working example posted in the forums.
[07:59] <ralpho> at that time you diled from software and tolked into your mic
[07:59] <bill__> !apt
[07:59] <ubotu> it has been said that apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[08:00] <Frogzoo> esc_ape: head set + mike - or just phone with FXO adapter
[08:00] <iGotNoTime> rishi: 2 lines here probably did alot
[08:00] <bill__> !sources
[08:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:00] <iGotNoTime> rishi: now I can have 10 if I want
[08:00] <ralpho> new stuff has phone you plug into usb
[08:00] <iGotNoTime> rishi: all calling different people at the same time
[08:00] <iGotNoTime> rishi: as an added bonus... SIP calls (like Skype and Gizmo) now ring on my home phone.
[08:00] <rishi> iGotNoTime: for sure...you might as well take advantage right
[08:00] <rishi> iGotNoTime: no way
[08:00] <iGotNoTime> rishi: for real
[08:00] <rishi> iGotNoTime: you can give girls numbers based on their looks
[08:01] <iGotNoTime> haha
[08:01] <rishi> iGotNoTime: if she's a 10 give her the "10" number
[08:01] <iGotNoTime> rishi: I can program the caller ID to anything I want too LOL
[08:01] <crimsun> uh, this conversation is really straying off-topic.
[08:01] <Zibao_ocupado> tem alguem q fala portugues aki????
[08:01] <rishi> iGotNoTime: but, if she's a "1", and you can't get rid of her...at least you'll never have to answer the phone!
[08:01] <rishi> haha
[08:01] <iGotNoTime> rishi: no joke you become the phone company
[08:01] <bimberi> !pt
[08:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:02] <rishi> iGotNoTime: that's sweet, you should sell service to your friends
[08:02] <rishi> hahaha
[08:02] <iGotNoTime> ha
[08:02] <iGotNoTime> need to get it working first
[08:02] <iGotNoTime> it is only working on my wifi sip phone now
[08:02] <rishi> iGotNoTime: well, get to it! i'll talk to you lata.
[08:02] <Frogzoo> rishi: iGotNoTime ok, nuff chatter -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:02] <iGotNoTime> not the home phone yet
[08:02] <Zibao_ocupado> euheuehue
[08:02] <iGotNoTime> rishi: but yes it works great with ubunutu
[08:02] <rishi> Frogzoo: i've been looking for help, can you tell me if you've upgraded to gnome 2.14
[08:03] <Frogzoo> rishi: negative
[08:03] <iGotNoTime> ubuntu makes install wonderful too
[08:03] <rishi> iGotNoTime: that's sweet man..props to you
[08:03] <iGotNoTime> LOL
[08:03] <Zibao_ocupado> blz ubotu
[08:03] <iGotNoTime> Frogzoo: sorry for the sarcasm :)
[08:03] <iGotNoTime> anyway I need to get back to my thing :)
[08:03] <rishi> frogzoo: how do you do it
[08:03] <rishi> iGotNoTime: take it easy man...lata.
[08:03] <Frogzoo> rishi: like I say - I haven't done it
[08:03] <rishi> aight...has ANYONE! :)
[08:04] <zorba64> rishi: as in Dapper ??...sure
[08:05] <poningru> rishi: whats wrong?
[08:05] <rishi> no, i want to put it into breezy, but i just don't know how
[08:05] <poningru> rishi: I have upgraded to the newest gnome
[08:05] <poningru> why not just upgrade to dapper?
[08:05] <zorba64> rishi: good luck with that.....
[08:06] <rishi> poningru: i was on dapper, there were little things that i wanted to play with that dapper wouldn't let me, but breezy will
[08:06] <rishi> poningru: is it a difficult update?  any tutorial for gnome 2.14 upgrade?
[08:06] <julio_> i have a question, can i install macromedia using wine?
[08:06] <poningru> rishi: dont think so
[08:07] <Hexidigital> julio, i dont think you can
[08:07] <rishi> julio_: nope, i don't think that'll work
[08:07] <rishi> poningru: so you're telling me i'm kinda outta luck for right now?
[08:07] <julio_> why?
[08:07] <zorba64> julio_: you can always try..in the interest of scientific endeavours....
[08:07] <poningru> rishi: what couldnt you do with dapper?
[08:07] <rishi> julio_: i dunno, something with the way the program is
[08:08] <julio_> ok
[08:08] <rishi> poningru: i wanted to play with the desklets, which weren't working, and there were other small things that i peeved me a little bit..though if you were to ask me now i wouldn't remember
[08:09] <poningru> gdesklets?] 
[08:09] <rishi> yeah
[08:09] <poningru> pretty playable for me
[08:09] <rishi> on dapper?
[08:09] <rishi> really?
[08:09] <poningru> yeah
[08:09] <rishi> damn...i dunno what the problem was then
[08:09] <phos-phoros> how do I kill an unkillable process in the D state? kill -9 pid isn't working :(, my disc was not being
[08:09] <phos-phoros> recognized, and k3b ended up locking up. I'm hoping on killing it without having to reboot.
[08:09] <poningru> dude when did you try it?
[08:09] <Hexidigital> anyone try to install firefox 2.0 yet?
[08:10] <rishi> poningru: i tried it earlier today, and what would happen is i installed from synaptics fine...then i would open it...and nothing would happen
[08:10] <zorba64> Hexidigital: bon echo...yeah
[08:10] <Hexidigital> zorba64, any problems with it yet?
[08:11] <Hexidigital> on your end?
[08:11] <poningru> rishi: where did you download it from?
[08:11] <poningru> give me the exact link
[08:11] <rishi> i dunno, i went through synaptics
[08:12] <rishi> i clicked on the gdesklets, not gdesklets data
[08:12] <ZeromusMog> Hello, does anyone have any experience setting up laptop broadcom wireless cards, espcially for Dell Inspirons? I am trying to follow the instructions in ubuntuforums,org/showthread.php?t=25683 but it doesn't seem to be working right at all
[08:12] <iGotNoTime> what is the TFTP root directory by default in UBUNTU?
[08:12] <kRaKoN> is there anyway to run the macromedia aplications with out wine?
[08:12] <Frogzoo> phos-phoros: if you read the man page for ps, D=uninterruptible sleep - ie you can't kill it - it's waiting on IO for some reason
[08:12] <poningru> rishi: I meant where did you install the dapper from
[08:12] <poningru> and how did you install it?
[08:12] <rishi> ohh
[08:12] <poningru> auto update or did you burn a cd or what
[08:12] <zorba64> asides with it being alpha...not really
[08:12] <rishi> poningru: i installed natively from a disc
[08:13] <poningru> where did you download the iso?
[08:13] <Hexidigital> zorba64, did you download the CVS or compile your own?
[08:13] <rishi> ubuntu's flight 5 page
[08:13] <poningru> hmm ic
[08:13] <poningru> that is what I wanted to find out
[08:13] <ZeromusMog> After running the weird for conffile... part (which I had to sudo -s) and doing sudo modprobe ndiswrapper after rebooting nothing shows up in system->administration->networking
[08:13] <iGotNoTime> rishi: what is Flight 5? Everyone is talking about it
[08:13] <phos-phoros> Frogzoo, that's the info I'm finding also. I was hoping someone might be aware of an alternative than having to reboot.
[08:13] <poningru> whether or not you used flight 5
[08:13] <rishi> yeah
[08:13] <iGotNoTime> rishi: you have link to that page?
[08:13] <tritium> iGotNoTime: dapper development release
[08:14] <poningru> iGotNoTime: its the newest ubuntu
[08:14] <zorba64> neither...downloaded tar.gz and unpacked in ~
[08:14] <rishi> iGotNoTime: dapper flight 5? its the bleeding edge distro of ubuntu
[08:14] <poningru> but its not so stable
[08:14] <rishi> !tell iGotNoTime about dapper
[08:14] <iGotNoTime> ohhh I always just seen dapper :)
[08:14] <rishi> oh, haha.
[08:14] <Hexidigital> zorba64, thanks :)
[08:14] <iGotNoTime> I guess I just knew it by the shortened name
[08:14] <rishi> yah
[08:14] <zorba64> Hexidigital: np
[08:14] <rishi> poningru: can you tell me how to check if wine installed correctly?
[08:14] <mrjoel> question about keyboard mapping - anyone know how to get the keys on a multimedia keyboard recognized at the kernel level? I'd like to be able to run a script from the console when pressing the buttons
[08:15] <bill__> If history is any example. flight five will work well enough to slightly annoy you. - lol
[08:15] <poningru> sorry dude dont have much experience with wine
[08:15] <rishi> no prob
[08:15] <rishi> can Anyone tell me how to check if Wine was installed properly?
[08:15] <zorba64> Hexidigital: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/  ...if you dont have it
[08:16] <ron_> Hello, How do you look at your drivers?
[08:17] <Hexidigital> thanks zorba64, i just googled it :)
[08:17] <Hexidigital> you were 1 step ahead
[08:17] <rishi> ron_: under system > administration > device manager
[08:17] <zorba64> !drivers
[08:17] <ubotu> drivers is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[08:17] <ron_> ty
[08:19] <venky> how can i open connection manager to change my wireless in kde
[08:19] <Dempsy> hey all
[08:19] <kRaKoN> I am trying to install JAVA JDK but i get this error "sh: gcc: command not found
[08:19] <kRaKoN> "
[08:20] <Toran> Hey guys, how can I add photos to my iPod in linux?
[08:20] <_daniel_> Toran, try gtkpod
[08:20] <zorba64> kRaKoN: sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot java-package
[08:20] <_daniel_> or banshee
[08:20] <ron_> kRaKon build-essentials
[08:20] <venky> i am unable to connect to gaim MSn because there i s no ssh
[08:20] <ron_> oh too late
[08:20] <Toran> gtkpod, I try adding a photo and it doesn't work
[08:20] <Toran> I don't think it supports them
[08:20] <zorba64> !java
[08:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:21] <zorba64> !javadebs
[08:21] <_daniel_> Toran, get latest version
[08:21] <_daniel_> it does support it
[08:21] <Toran> I have an svn version
[08:21] <Toran> How do you add them?
[08:21] <venky> can anyone help me with getting ssh to work in gaim 2 beta 2
[08:21] <Piete> !javadebs
[08:22] <Toran> I went to "add files" and clicked on one of my pictures, but it failed to add it to my 'pod
[08:22] <_daniel_> Hm Toran maybe then it doesnt
[08:23] <_daniel_> I dont use the picture thing
[08:23] <_daniel_> you can use it as a hard drive though
[08:23] <_daniel_> like just put the picture somewere
[08:23] <kRaKoN> zorba64 i was running: "fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-nb-5_0-linux.bin
[08:23] <kRaKoN> Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.XXXXm7zzov
[08:23] <kRaKoN> Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk.sh
[08:23] <kRaKoN> sh: gcc: command not found
[08:23] <kRaKoN> "
[08:23] <suyog> anyone knows how i can get audio previews in nautilus windows?
[08:23] <kRaKoN> (sorry for the flood)
[08:23] <crimsun> install build-essential, kRaKoN
[08:23] <Madpilot> kRaKoN, next time, pastebin that - thanks...
[08:23] <kRaKoN> ok crumsun thank you
[08:23] <suyog> i get audio previews of wav files but not of ogg or mp3s. any solution?
[08:24] <zorba64> kRaKoN: so apt-get install build-essential and try it then
[08:24] <Dempsy> are the default sources for apt-get online or just from the CD?
[08:24] <NiklasH_work> suyog: try installing gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[08:24] <suyog> i see. thanks NiklasH_work
[08:25] <venky> hello can anyone help me
[08:25] <dj-fu> possibly
[08:25] <dj-fu> it's usually good to say your problem
[08:25] <venky> i asked a few dobts 2 times
[08:25] <suyog> and another thing, my video files play choppy on totem. but they play fine on xine. any plugin for that as well?
[08:25] <dj-fu> plugin = use xine instead fo totem
[08:25] <bill__> nice totem/
[08:26] <NiklasH_work> Dempsy: just comment out the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list. Then apt only uses the online repositories
[08:26] <Hexidigital> zorba64, thanks again... just finished install... and only 1 of my extensions are not compatible... i can deal with that
[08:26] <zorba64> Hexidigital: congrats...:)
[08:26] <venky> ???
[08:26] <Hexidigital> gotta run
[08:27] <venky> ubugtu can u help me
[08:27] <venky> ?
[08:27] <Rotund> Has anyone looked into a "fallback" xorg.conf if something gets messed up?
[08:27] <Rotund> Something that after the 3rd attempt of GDM/KDM would be tried once.
[08:27] <zach> i found my info on the multi monitors and i am downloading wine as we speak...i hope i can get it to play my games...if i can i will be doing away with windows compleatly..
[08:28] <Dempsy> NiklasH_work, should i uncomment all the repositories? or just the supported ones?
[08:29] <cmatheson> i'm trying to compile some code that uses inotify that i found in a lj article, but i get the following errors: undefined reference to `inotify_init' ... this happens in dapper and breezy, seems like this should be implemented in glibc, any ideas?
[08:29] <NiklasH_work> Dempsy: i have all repositories uncommented. works fine for me :)
[08:30] <Rotund> cmatheson: that code should be in the kernel headers I believe
[08:30] <cmatheson> Rotund: yeah, the headers are there, so there aren't errors w/ the code, there's just nothing to link it against
[08:30] <NiklasH_work> you might want to add multiverse to the repositories, if you don't have them. just add multiverse at the end of each deb line
[08:31] <NiklasH_work> and universe, too
[08:31] <venky> ???
[08:31] <cmatheson> Rotund: er, i mean when I was giving it the wrong path for the headers <sys/inotify.h> instead of kernel/inotify.h, then i would get errors about implicit decleration of functions and what not
[08:31] <venky> can anyone read what iam typing
[08:31] <defrysk> venky, no
[08:31] <GeorgeAScott> hi
[08:31] <cmatheson> Rotund: can the functions be implemented in headers?
[08:32] <venky> ok can anyone help me with ssh installation for gaim 2 beta 2
[08:32] <venky> itsdoesnt allow me to connect to google talk
[08:32] <defrysk> venky, if anyone could you would know by now
[08:32] <venky> oh ok
[08:33] <Rotund> cmatheson: Looks like glibc just implemented inotify at that level recently.  http://cvs.savannah.nongnu.org/viewcvs/libc/libc/NEWS?rev=1.159
[08:33] <venky> do u know how to get to network connections in KDE
[08:33] <Rotund> cmatheson: I'm going to look in gamin's source and see how they do it.
[08:33] <defrysk> venky, #ubuntu iss most gnome oriented, #kubuntu is most kde oriented
[08:33] <cmatheson> Rotund: thanks
[08:34] <GeorgeAScott> is there a way to change the color of the background during the splash screen?  between the time that it shows my desktop and the other thing i want to change ( where the modules load)
[08:34] <venky> how to change the cannel to kubuntu
[08:34] <defrysk>  /j #kubuntu
[08:34] <Rotund> GeorgeAScott: yes.  Set the background color
[08:34] <Rotund> GeorgeAScott: such questions should really be asked on #ubuntu though
[08:34] <GeorgeAScott> i've done that...it still comes up looking like fecal matter smeard on my screen
[08:35] <Rotund> May need to set the color in GDM
[08:35] <Madpilot> Rotund, um, this is #ubuntu :P
[08:35] <wd3> hey guys i have no sound help
[08:35] <shukhrat> hello all
[08:35] <Rotund> aw crap/  I thought I was on #ubuntu-devel
[08:35] <Rotund> mad =)
[08:35] <Rotund> Madpilot: =)
[08:35] <shukhrat> Madpilot: hello man
[08:35] <Madpilot> GeorgeAScott, System -> Admin -> Splash Screen Setup
[08:36] <crimsun> wd3: that's not even useful for starters.
[08:36] <Madpilot> GeorgeAScott, sorry, Login Screen Setup
[08:36] <GeorgeAScott> i only have a splash screen set up in pref
[08:36] <Hexidigital> zorba64, how do you get bon echo to start in terminal?  1.07 is still loading as default when i click my quick launch panel
[08:36] <GeorgeAScott> no the login is set the way i want it... it between that and the desktop where it switches back to brown
[08:36] <Madpilot> GeorgeAScott, then go to "GTK+ Greeter" and pick a background colour - lower right corner
[08:37] <cmatheson> Rotund: hmm, yeah, dapper only has glibc 2.3.6... i suppose something as major as glibc probably won't get updated til the next one around huh?
[08:37] <crimsun> wd3: sound hardware, lspci -nv && lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0  pastebinned is
[08:37] <Madpilot> GeorgeAScott, what colour is your actual desktop background set up to?
[08:37] <shukhrat> my apache not regonize russian lan ? why
[08:37] <wd3> Crimsun, thanks. i uninstalled xfce and now i have no sound.
[08:37] <zach> ok i have a prob...just downloaded wine and i can not find it
[08:37] <vladuz976> is there a way to adjust the size(thickness) of the scrollbars of gtk2 windows?
[08:37] <dj-fu> zach, might help to know what you are looking for
[08:37] <BlueHeron> whats the apt-get cmd to completely remove an appt?
[08:38] <GeorgeAScott> and i can't get my grub splash screen to work either
[08:38] <crimsun> wd3: please pastebin the info that I asked for
[08:38] <zach> the program
[08:38] <zach> wine
[08:38] <wd3> crimsun, yes sir
[08:38] <Rotund> cmatheson: I'm wondering if one doesn't link against the file in the kernel... though that seems odd.
[08:38] <Madpilot> GeorgeAScott, hmm - I don't know anything about Grub splashscreens - sorry
[08:38] <dj-fu> zach, I do believe it installs to /usr/bin, but it should be in your $PATH anyway - type 'wine'
[08:38] <zach> i downloaded it and installed it and i cant find it
[08:38] <zach> okay
[08:38] <shukhrat> my apache not regonize russian lang ? why
[08:39] <dj-fu> shukhrat, you may not have the locale installed for russian, perhaps?
[08:39] <GeorgeAScott> what about the screen where it says ubuntu on top (i've seen it changed to kubuntu) is there a way to change the color scheme on that?
[08:39] <Petronal> I suck with fstabs, why can I read my vfat partition as a normal user but not my ntfs partition? here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/628279
[08:39] <Madpilot> GeorgeAScott, the startup stuff w/ all the scrolling brown text?
[08:39] <GeorgeAScott> yes!
[08:39] <dj-fu> !tell Petronal about ntfs
[08:39] <Hexidigital> anyone install firefox 2.0 yet?
[08:39] <BlueHeron> whats the apt-get cmd to completely remove an appt?
[08:39] <GeorgeAScott> exactly what i would like to change
[08:40] <Petronal> dj-fu, nice try but its already mounted
[08:40] <Petronal> ;)
[08:40] <dj-fu> Petronal, edit your fstab as the file says ;)
[08:40] <Madpilot> GeorgeAScott, I'm not sure, but I think that part is controlled by 'usplash'
[08:40] <cmatheson> Rotund: i think i saw some code on ibmworks that was actually reading/writing to /dev/inotify instead of using the syscalls.. maybe that is the best route for now?
[08:40] <shukhrat> dj-fu: how install locale for Russian ?
[08:40] <dj-fu> Petronal, /dev/hda1       /media/ntfs     ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:40] <Rotund> cmatheson: That makes sense.
[08:40] <wd3> crimsun,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11032
[08:40] <dj-fu> shukhrat, No idea, sorry. In soviet russia, apache installs locale for you.
[08:41] <Hexidigital> lol
[08:41] <Rotund> cmatheson: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gamin/server/gam_inotify.c?rev=1.49&view=markup
[08:41] <GeorgeAScott> thanks... i'll look into
[08:41] <dj-fu> Petronal, when someone asks ubotu to tell you something, there's usually a good reason.
[08:41] <zach> okay i found it thanks
[08:42] <tdillman> howdy all
[08:43] <Hexidigital> !firefox
[08:43] <Petronal> dj-fu: well usually "defaults" for options covers it
[08:43] <Hexidigital> !firefox1.5
[08:43] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:43] <BlueHeron> whats the apt-get cmd to completely remove an appt?
[08:43] <Petronal> I guess this isn't the case with ubuntu
[08:43] <Petronal> apt-get remove
[08:43] <crimsun> wd3: that's a zero [0] , not a lowercase 'oh'
[08:44] <crimsun> wd3: so, amixer -c0
[08:44] <BlueHeron> petitohaime|: no
[08:44] <BlueHeron> Petronal: nope
[08:44] <dj-fu> Petronal, it's the same with any distro
[08:44] <dj-fu> `man /etc/fstab`
[08:44] <Petronal> lmao
[08:44] <Petronal> i love the n00b treastment
[08:44] <highvoltage> does nexenta have all the same packages as ubuntu? would i be able to install edubuntu-desktop on nexenta?
[08:44] <wd3> crimsun, ok done
[08:44] <dj-fu> rather, `man fstab`.
[08:44] <Petronal>    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:44] <Petronal> that usually isnt needed
[08:45] <Petronal> as "deafults" covers it
[08:45] <crimsun> wd3: url?
[08:45] <dj-fu> defaults != ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:45] <Petronal> ya
[08:45] <GeorgeAScott> how do i list my disks and partitions to get this form: (hd1,0) rather than hda
[08:45] <Petronal> so thaty isnt my problem
[08:45] <Petronal> obviously
[08:45] <wd3> crimsun, pasting now
[08:46] <Petronal> dj-fu: Maybe if you listened to my question before brushing me off with a noob answer you would realize that
[08:46] <shukhrat> dj-fu: i put this in <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1251"> for auto. load russian lang, when i open my file with browser it is open without problem, but when i open with my http://localhost it's going wrong why ? :(
[08:46] <Dempsy> hey, anyone have any experiance with the fglrx driver? i keep getting htis error message "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"
[08:46] <wd3> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11033
[08:46] <tdillman> dempsy: no experience, but i might be able to help...
 I suck with fstabs, why can I read my vfat partition as a normal user but not my ntfs partition? here is my fstab
[08:46] <Petronal> read the link
[08:46] <shukhrat> dj-fu: is it problem with my Apache2 ?
[08:47] <Petronal> that you failed to paste
[08:47] <crimsun> wd3: unmute 'PCM', and increase its volume
[08:47] <dj-fu> gah, bad attitude windows kiddy on the lose guys
[08:47] <Prak> does anyone know how to setup the internet on ubuntu through ethernet using dhcp?
[08:47] <dj-fu> !tell Petronal about ntfs
[08:47] <Petronal> dj-fu: not a bad attitude, just learn to read
[08:47] <eriktown> prak: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:47] <Petronal> you just told me defaults=   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:47] <dj-fu> Update your fstab with the options from that file, it will work fine.
[08:47] <Petronal> lmao
[08:48] <wd3> crimsun, pcm only shows in capture, is that for playback as well?
[08:48] <dj-fu> Petronal, No, I didn't. Read.
 defaults != ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:48] <dj-fu> That's boolean for IS-NOT-EQUAL
[08:48] <dj-fu> righto?
[08:48] <Dempsy> tdillman, alright, i used this guide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 and i got that error message i posted earlier.
[08:48] <dj-fu> Learn to read, please.
[08:48] <Petronal> dj-fu: dj-fu: defaults != ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:48] <crimsun> wd3: yes
 That's boolean for IS-NOT-EQUAL
[08:48] <crimsun> wd3: amixer sset 'PCM' on
[08:49] <eriktown> I've got a weirdly persistent bad route in my routing table that I can't delete. Anyone know how I can blow it away completely? route flush doesn't work.
[08:49] <brammator> where i can find page about differences between kubuntu and kubuntu flight? also, is "dapper" just next release as "breazy" and "hoary", or slightly different branch like "kubuntu" and "edubuntu"?
[08:49] <dj-fu> brammator, dapper is next release like breezy and hoary
[08:49] <shukhrat> dj-fu: i put this in <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1251"> for auto. load russian lang, when i open my file with browser it is open without problem, but when i open with my http://localhost it's going wrong why ? :(
[08:49] <brammator> dj-fu thanks. and what about "flight" thing?
[08:50] <dj-fu> brammator, Flight refers to the "build" number of the dapper images, flight 5 refers to the last image created, the fifth flight
[08:50] <dj-fu> just a tricky naming convention i guess. instead of just coming with a version number, the pre-releases are flights
[08:50] <bill__> !tell bill__ ntfs
[08:50] <crimsun> flights are milestones.
[08:50] <Dempsy> tdillman,  just found another guide that seems a lil newer, let me try this rq.
[08:52] <eriktown> My machine keeps sending out ARP requests for 172.16.72.1, even though my default route is configured as 172.16.73.1. How can I fix this?
[08:52] <wd3> crimsun, ok i'm going to sound now. thanks. (amixer sset "pcm" on)?  i looked at the page, man, where is that? i see capture off, r u refering to that line?
[08:52] <eriktown> My IP is 172.16.73.20/23.
[08:53] <bosco> http://udderweb.com/~bosco/
[08:53] <bosco> srry
[08:53] <bosco> did not mean to post that
[08:53] <crimsun> wd3: no, type precisely what I gave you verbatim
[08:53] <bosco> working on something
[08:53] <eriktown> Is there some config file where routes are kept?
[08:53] <bosco> working on my website
[08:53] <bosco> redoing it
[08:53] <bosco> from the server
[08:53] <wd3> crimsun, oh sorry, in terminal?
[08:53] <bosco> blah bte
[08:53] <crimsun> wd3: yes
[08:53] <bosco> 
[08:54] <wd3> crimsun, ok
[08:55] <eriktown> Is there a way to re-run the initial ubuntu setup utility?
[08:55] <brammator> dj-fu so if i get you right, one of flights will be dapper? or next release after dapper?
[08:55] <wd3> crimsun, walter@ubuntu:~$ amixer sset 'pcm' on
[08:55] <wd3> amixer: Unable to find simple control 'pcm',0
[08:55] <dj-fu> brammator, Dapper flight 5 is out now
[08:56] <dj-fu> brammator, that's the fifth pressed CD image released for testing, it's in "feature freeze" now
[08:56] <crimsun> wd3: amixer -c0 sset 'PCM',0 on
[08:56] <crimsun> wd3: I mean EXACTLY what I typed. Case is important.
[08:57] <cmatheson> Rotund: thanks for the link
[08:57] <brammator> dj-fu thanks.
[08:59] <wd3> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11034
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[09:01] <htrp> hey
[09:01] <crimsun> wd3: now, amixer -c0 sset 'PCM',0 28
[09:01] <wd3> crimsun, i just went to sound and turned up pcm, thanks ur great. i just got fed up with xfce, so i'm back. the guys on #xfce were a little less patient as you, so i said forget it, let me go back to gnome. i'm
[09:01] <htrp> how do you know when is the time you installed ubuntu?
[09:02] <wd3> crimsun,  ok i'll do it now
[09:02] <crimsun> wd3: no need, if sound is audible don't bother
[09:02] <wd3> crimsun, ok thanks
[09:02] <wsjunior> trying to install mplayer i get: depends on mplayer-k7 (>= 1.0-pre5) but it cannot be installed. i've already added universe and multiuniverse repositories. how to install it?
[09:03] <crimsun> wsjunior: pastebin ``apt-cache policy mplayer-k7''
[09:04] <wsjunior> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11035
[09:05] <crimsun> wsjunior: you don't have multiverse enabled.
[09:05] <crimsun> !info mplayer-k7
[09:05] <ubotu> mplayer-k7: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[09:05] <crimsun> see?
[09:05] <crimsun> wsjunior: make sure you didn't goof and enable only universe and multiverse for _breezy-backports_
[09:05] <wsjunior> crimsun, how to correctly enable it?
[09:05] <crimsun> wsjunior: change your sources.list, or use Synaptic
[09:06] <bosco> if i just made a script  part of it is ping google.com then it is sopposed to go to ping boscoslife.com well it does not stop pinging google.com how do i tell it to after 10 pings of each and then stop after boscolife.com
[09:06] <wsjunior> crimsun, deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:06] <wsjunior> crimsun, is it right?
[09:06] <crimsun> uhh...hoary?
[09:06] <crimsun> are you using hoary or breezy?
[09:07] <crimsun> lsb_release -r
[09:07] <kRaKoN> where is the wine folder by default?
[09:07] <doro> hello
[09:07] <zmo> bosco: ping -c 10
[09:07] <G0SUB> bosco: `ping -c 3'
[09:08] <doro> might someone be able to help me? i'm looking for a program or a way to mount a bin/cue CD image
[09:08] <G0SUB> doro: you can play it with mplayer I guess ... why do you want to mount it?
[09:08] <wsjunior> crimsun, breezy, i fixed it but still doesnt work
[09:09] <sstchur> I goofed up when trying to install firefox 1.5 in ubuntu.  So I rolled back everything I did (or so I though) and upon my second attempt, I'm getting:  dpkg-divert: `local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu' clashes with `local diversion of /user/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu'
[09:09] <bosco> zmo,  so ping -c 10
[09:09] <sstchur> obviously a typo there, but how do I correc it now?
[09:10] <wsjunior> crimsun, could u paste me the repository to add?
[09:10] <bosco> zmo,  i want to ping google.com 10 times then ping boscoslife.com 10 times then stop
[09:10] <doro> gosub: to install the program, it came in bin/cue and i haven't had to deal with that in linux yet
[09:10] <dj-fu> ping -c 10 google.com && ping -c 10 boscoslife.com
[09:10] <Prak> i'm currently reinstalling my ubuntu right now; it can't detect my dhcp protocol
[09:10] <Prak> is there anything i can do?
[09:11] <bosco> dj-fu,  thank you
[09:12] <kRaKoN> !wine
[09:13] <wsjunior> crimsun, thank u
[09:13] <suyog> i can't get audio previews in nautilus even after installing gstreamer multiverse plugins :( any help?
[09:13] <wd3> crimsun, what browser do u use?
[09:19] <blacking> hello all
[09:19] <blacking> i got problem with yaboot while install Hoary on my external USB..
[09:19] <blacking> is there anyone can help me a lot?
[09:19] <crimsun> wd3: epiphany
[09:19] <wd3> crimsun, jus wondered what a ubuntu master would be using so i can get it :)
[09:19] <crimsun> wd3: I'm hardly a "ubuntu master"
[09:19] <bill__> lol@crimsun
[09:19] <Hobbsee> crimsun: sure you are
[09:19] <crimsun> wd3: besides, it's more about sane choices. Pick a Web browser, and use it.
[09:19] <crimsun> lies
[09:20] <wd3> crimsun, well, i have firefox but can't update it to 1.5, and forget about the web instructions. why epiphany?
[09:20] <crimsun> wd3: in breezy, firefox is frozen at 1.0.7
[09:21] <wd3> crimsun, yes, so i'm stuck with that? can u update epiphany?
[09:21] <crimsun> wd3: I use epiphany in dapper because it's more to my liking (tertiary-click lock for scrolling, etc.)
[09:21] <crimsun> wd3: if you wish to use the version of firefox in Ubuntu, yes, you're "stuck" with 1.0.7 in breezy. There are instructions for installing 1.5.x manually.
[09:22] <crimsun> wd3: epiphany in Ubuntu uses firefox for its backend [gecko] .
[09:22] <ca38aspear> to run firefox 1.5 extract the file from mozzila and click on firefox
[09:23] <me2win> crimsun, isnt it a backport?
[09:23] <wd3> crimsun, thanks
[09:24] <wd3> ca38aspear, thanks click on firefox which file? so download it, and click which file?
[09:24] <crimsun> me2win: not that I see, no.
[09:24] <liable> the one the instructions say to?
[09:24] <me2win> /me shrugs
[09:24] <wd3> liable thanks
[09:25] <liable> wd3: you're welcome
[09:26] <htrp> how can you tell how long ubuntu been installed on your computer?
[09:27] <doro> so does anyone know an application to run bin/cue cd images?
[09:28] <htrp> run or burn?
[09:28] <LathropWells> the file creation date stamp on grub? or did you mean hours of runtime?
[09:28] <doro> mount as a virtual drive preferably, though burning would be a second choice
[09:31] <Prak> does anyone know how to get dhcp to work on an ubuntu pc with ethernet connection?
[09:32] <harisund> Prak, typically your machine should automatically pick up an IP address.
[09:32] <tdillman> doro: bchunk
[09:32] <crimsun> Prak: it should "just work"
[09:32] <Prak> it doesn't
[09:32] <notos> does any equivalent to windows alt+164 for special character on linux ?
[09:32] <harisund> prak, what is your configuration?
[09:32] <Prak> that's why i'm asking this question
[09:33] <Prak> i'm currently reinstalling it now
[09:33] <Prak> configuration is now set to static ip
[09:33] <harisund> you have a pc, that is connected to ethernet through a cable modem from your service provider?
[09:33] <Prak> through a adsl
[09:34] <harisund> oh.. I have never dealt with adsl before, but as far as I know it, if it is ADSL and your ethernet nic is seen (as in eth0 or something similar) then you can connect, but you shouldn't be setting it static for ADSL
[09:34] <htrp> what's the package name for macromedia plugin for firefox?
[09:35] <Prak> it didn't work when i set it to dhcp
[09:36] <Prak> i'll retry dhcp
[09:36] <Prak> i doubt it will work
[09:36] <harisund> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11544 here is a thread on configuring adsl in ubuntu, prak. As I said, I am not familiar with adsl connections
[09:36] <blacking> hem sorry
[09:36] <Prak> i'll take a look
[09:36] <harisund> So I am sorry, you will have to figure it out yourself :-(
[09:37] <ZeroKun> sigh what a bad day...
[09:37] <ZeroKun> anywho, i get a grub 15 error not to mention an error during installation of the dapper flight 5 livecd
[09:39] <blacking> is tehre support here for Ubuntu ppc olatform??
[09:39] <Madpilot> blacking, yes
[09:39] <blacking> thanks..
[09:40] <jayd> hi
[09:40] <jayd> helo to all
[09:41] <blacking> my prob is that while install Hoary on my external usb drive, yaboot explain an generic error
[09:41] <blacking> impossible install yaboot, stop
[09:41] <shukhrat> how Ubuntu work with russian lunguage ?
[09:41] <me2win> shukhrat, not sure
[09:41] <doro> wow, how the hell do people use this? it's so difficult to do everything?
[09:42] <harisund> In the Ubuntu Fridge events, what time zones are the events mentioned in? For example it says on March 30th there is a Edubuntu meeting from 16:00 to 18:00.. in what time zone?
[09:42] <me2win> doro, use what?
[09:42] <doro> linux
[09:42] <me2win> doro, the fun part is learning
[09:42] <doro> seems that every time i try to do something, i read for 2 hours
[09:42] <Madpilot> harisund, UTC/Zulu, probably
[09:42] <Gau> ...is there a way to get a root terminal window on the latest Ubuntu LiveCD?
[09:43] <harisund> Hmm, ok thanks Madpilot.. maybe I can just check and find out :D
[09:43] <ZeroKun> you can use sudo
[09:43] <me2win> Gau, you dont need a root terminal window, use sudo
[09:44] <shukhrat> me2win: i have htm.file my apache don't see cyrrilic ?
[09:44] <Gau> um...I don't understand how sudo works?
[09:44] <Madpilot> !sudo
[09:44] <ubotu> sudo is probably a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:44] <doro> time to reformat so that i might get something accomplished, thanks for the help though
[09:44] <Madpilot> Gau, see the URL the bot just posted above ^^^
[09:44] <Gau> thanks
[09:44] <pmallapp> any idea about the seamonkey debs
[09:44] <me2win> !rs
[09:44] <ubotu> me2win: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:44] <Madpilot> !botsnack
[09:44] <ubotu> thanks madpilot :)
[09:44] <me2win> !ru
[09:44] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[09:45] <shukhrat> ubotu: locale ru
[09:45] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shukhrat
[09:46] <harisund> Anyone know how I can get a good assembler for Ubuntu? I want to try out some 8086 codes I am learning in class :D
[09:46] <solo> hello, any one can help with kernel questions
[09:47] <solo> I need to compile a driver and the source code ask me for kernel path
[09:48] <zmo> !kernel-source
[09:48] <me2win> !kernel-src
[09:48] <zmo> !kernel-source
[09:48] <ubotu> me2win: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:48] <Chodder> !en
[09:48] <ubotu> well, en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[09:48] <liable> solo: if you just need to compile a module, install kernel headers
[09:49] <Gau> Graah..I just need to change permissions on one freaking directory
[09:51] <Polygon> anyone avaiable to help me real fast?
[09:51] <Madpilot> Gau, chmod is your friend
[09:51] <Eleaf> I dunno
[09:51] <variant> Polygon: just ask your question
[09:51] <Madpilot> Polygon, if you ask an actual question, actual help may be forthcoming :P
[09:52] <Polygon> lol
[09:52] <Polygon> ok... so in my quest to make my internet more stable
[09:52] <Polygon> i came across these "madwifi" drivers
[09:52] <Polygon> and.. i need to compile them before i can install them
[09:52] <Polygon> (im new at ubuntu btw)
[09:53] <liable> Polygon: please, try and put it all on one line, try using punctuation.
[09:53] <Polygon> and i read through the guide and made sure that all the stuff is installed, and its giving me an error
[09:53] <Polygon> mark@ubuntu:~/madwifi-ng$ make
[09:53] <Polygon> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory
[09:53] <Polygon> Makefile.inc:95: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[09:53] <solo> how do I install kernel header?
[09:53] <liable> Polygon: the madwifi web site has some good docs for new users.
[09:53] <solo> liable: how do I install kernel headers
[09:53] <liable> Polygon: install kernel headers. also build-essential
[09:54] <Polygon> build essential, ill check that
[09:54] <liable> solo: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:54] <liable> solo: the same way you install almost everything in ubuntu
[09:54] <kleinlappies> hi there
[09:54] <Polygon> it says i have it installed
[09:54] <kleinlappies> is automatix any good?
[09:55] <liable> Polygon: you need kernel headers too.
[09:55] <grr34> quick question, which packages install the original xorg's libglx.a and libglcore.a ? my nvidia driver deleted them, and i want them back coz i reinstalled my ati drivers with another video card
[09:55] <liable> Polygon: see what i just told solo
[09:55] <kleinlappies> i want to install nvidia drivers and the multimedia stuff (codecs and players)
[09:55] <solo> liable: ask me to get a version to install
[09:55] <grr34> if anybody can do a dpkg -S, so that i can see perhaps ?
[09:55] <Madpilot> !automatix
[09:55] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[09:56] <liable> solo: huh? use synaptic and search for linux-headers
[09:56] <Madpilot> !tell kleinlappies about restricted
[09:56] <Polygon> one sec
[09:56] <Madpilot> !tell kleinlappies about nvidia
[09:56] <Madpilot> kleinlappies, there you go - better than automatix! ;)
[09:56] <solo>   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7-smp 2.6.12-9.23
[09:56] <solo>   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7 2.6.12-9.23
[09:56] <solo>   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686-smp 2.6.12-9.23
[09:56] <solo>   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686 2.6.12-9.23
[09:56] <solo>   linux-headers-2.6.12-9 2.6.12-9.23
[09:56] <solo>   linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 2.6.12-9.23
[09:56] <liable> solo: dont paste here...
[09:57] <solo> sorry
[09:57] <liable> solo: install the ones that match your running kernel...
[09:57] <zmo> solo: uname -r
[09:57] <solo> o I see
[09:57] <Polygon> hmmm.. it seems that i didnt have those installed
[09:57] <kleinlappies> yes sorry man kinda newbie here what must i do?
[09:57] <Madpilot> solo, see what liable told you about apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) -- that'll get you exactly the right headers...
[09:58] <liable> solo: the first command i gave should have done it for you
[09:58] <Polygon> thanks for the help
[09:58] <Polygon> bye
[09:58] <solo> ok
[09:58] <Madpilot> kleinlappies, the bot should have sent you a pair of messages
[09:58] <wuzzy> good morning! why can't i connect to the remote desktop on my dapper machine? it seems like vnc is not listening on the machine and the settings are correct in System/prefs/Remote Desktop???
[09:58] <solo> nice, installing in progress, thx ppl
[09:59] <kleinlappies> Madpilot did not get anything where must i look (sorry for the 101 Q&A)
[09:59] <me2win> solo, told ya
[09:59] <solo> yeah, thank you too, me2win
[10:00] <Madpilot> kleinlappies, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:00] <me2win> solo, np
[10:00] <kleinlappies> Madpilot thanks a mil (this help a appreciate allot)
[10:00] <Madpilot> kleinlappies, no problem
[10:00] <htrp> is there a shockwave player available?
[10:01] <variant> htrp: no
[10:01] <Madpilot> htrp, no. Blame Macromedia
[10:01] <Gau> thanks; problem was bad chmod syntax -_-
[10:01] <htrp> so there's no way to play this lil game i have
[10:02] <Frogzoo> htrp: -> kqemu
[10:02] <wuzzy> anyone: how can i tell if the remote desktop process is running on my machine?
[10:02] <Delicates> what FS would you format a 500GB home storage drive?
[10:02] <Chodder> that depends
[10:02] <Frogzoo> Delicates: ext3 no question
[10:02] <htrp> what you mean?
[10:03] <Chodder> Are you to be sharing it with other operating systems?
[10:03] <Delicates> Frogzoo: why not ReiserFS?
[10:03] <htrp> no
[10:03] <Frogzoo> htrp: you can run doze under kqemu
[10:03] <Chodder> htrp: not talking to you
[10:03] <variant> Delicates: XFS is very nice
[10:03] <variant> Delicates: reiserfs is also nice.. its up to you..
[10:03] <Frogzoo> Delicates: only because ext3 is well understood & totally stable, & the difference between reiser & ext3 is sfa
[10:03] <Zoo> hi on
[10:03] <Zoo> :)
[10:04] <Zoo> guess what system I on :-)
[10:04] <Shadowpillar> quick question
[10:04] <variant> Delicates: format it as each and test it with lots of small files and a couple of big ones.. see what works best for you
[10:04] <Zoo> :P
[10:04] <Delicates> bah
[10:04] <Shadowpillar> I set up a samba share via the share program in gnome
[10:04] <Shadowpillar> however, one windows, it asks for a password
[10:04] <Zoo> ^_^
[10:04] <Zoo> ^_^
[10:04] <Shadowpillar> how do I fix this?
[10:05] <Delicates> I'm also considering sometimes opening that FS with Windows IFSD
[10:05] <variant> Delicates: the fs you choose depends mostly on whether you really need that extra 0.5% performance and the size and type of files you will be useing
[10:05] <Chodder> use swat ;)  (if you don't want edit the config file yourself)
[10:05] <Chodder> or webmin
[10:05] <Zoo> BSD blowin ubuntu away, I got tired of bugs :-)
[10:05] <variant> Delicates: in that case you can only use fat32/ntfs or ext2 (not ext3)
[10:05] <Zoo> hi all btw :D
[10:06] <Chodder> huh
[10:06] <Zoo> I had to stop in, say hello ;-)
[10:06] <Chodder> ext3 is supported in doze
[10:06] <Chodder> ...
[10:06] <Delicates> variant: ext3 is backwards compatible with ext3
[10:06] <Frogzoo> Delicates: I don't believe it
[10:06] <Delicates> hahaha
[10:06] <Chodder> heh
[10:06] <Delicates> with ext2 even
[10:07] <variant> Delicates: with ext2 yes but you cant mount it under windows
[10:07] <Frogzoo> :)
[10:07] <Delicates> variant: you can mount it as ext2
[10:07] <variant> Delicates: you can mount ext2 or ext3 if you disable the journal (back to ext2)
[10:07] <Frogzoo> only drawback with ext3 is file recovery IS NOT POSSIBLE
[10:07] <Delicates> huh?
[10:08] <Zoo> see you all in bit :-)
[10:08] <variant> Delicates: you would have to disable the journal under ubuntu first which would be a bit of a pain in the as
[10:08] <Delicates> Frogzoo: why wouldn't it be possible?
[10:08] <variant> s
[10:08] <Frogzoo> maybe reiser, xfs are better if you intend to unintentionally delete files & want to retrive them
[10:08] <Zoo> if I were people, I would wait for next ubuntu :P
[10:08] <Delicates> variant: which IFSD driver are you talking about?
[10:08] <variant> Delicates: because its not.. there is no ext3 undelete but you can use file recovery tools like magic rescue
[10:08] <Zoo> hi Delicates  :-
[10:08] <Zoo> :)
[10:08] <Frogzoo> Delicates: ext3 deletes the inode - so when you delete the file, there's nothing for recovery tools to match against to restore your data
[10:09] <Delicates> Frogzoo: and ext2 doesn't?
[10:09] <Frogzoo> Delicates: correct
[10:09] <variant> Delicates: what is ifsd?
[10:09] <Delicates> variant: Installable File System Driver for Windows
[10:09] <variant> Delicates: there is one for ext2 but not anything else afaik
[10:10] <variant> Delicates: you totaly just made up that acronym
[10:10] <variant> :P
[10:10] <Delicates> variant: http://rfsd.sourceforge.net/
[10:11] <variant> Delicates: i would not rely on that to provide you with access.. i would be suprised if it works in its current state
[10:12] <Delicates> variant: I'm not planning to use it with Windows immediately... some time in the future maybe
[10:12] <ploom> damn you people of choice - who can tell what to use - ext3 or reiser -- all that for a simple home-computer use??
[10:12] <variant> Delicates: it would appear to be "not quite dead" as it says on the project page
[10:12] <variant> ploom: just one or the other.. it really doesnt make any difference to the average user
[10:13] <Delicates> Well I appreciate the compilation speed uder Reiser4
[10:13] <Delicates> makes hell of a difference
[10:13] <Prak> harisund, are you still there?
[10:14] <fek> moin
[10:14] <LathropWells> What command lets you keep an application running even after closing the terminal window you ran the command from?
[10:14] <ploom> variant, their both still journalling and etc... right? Just one sometimes is faster: ext3 on creating files and reiser on deleting or what way was that?
[10:15] <variant> ploom: depends on how your using it.. both can be tuned a little and it depends on the size/quantitiy of files etc
[10:15] <ploom> ok, thanks
[10:15] <variant> ploom: i think that for the average user there will be no difference whatsoever in useage
[10:16] <redguy> LathropWells: you can etiher run the comannd in screen (man screen) or run the command with "nohup command"
[10:16] <ssam> just use ext3. if the ubuntu devs have decided its the best default, then trust them
[10:16] <variant> ploom: personaly, if i didnt have the faintest idea about it, i would go with ext3 because it has a really good reputation and has been around al ong time (not that reiser is much different in that respect :P)
[10:17] <mark_> hello, i am still trying to install the madwifi drivers, and i did make and make install and its saying that "cp: cannot stat 'wlan.ko': no such file or directory
[10:17] <LathropWells> redguy - nohup - that is ist. Thank you.
[10:17] <variant> mark_: you need to follow some sort of instructions for doing it.. there is probably a tutorial
[10:18] <redguy> ploom: http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html <-- you can read the filesystem's benchmarks here
[10:18] <mark_> i am following A tutorial
[10:18] <ploom> redguy, thanks - just the thing I was looking for :-)
[10:18] <mark_> ill go through it again though
[10:19] <ploom> its actually almost the same as Gnome vs Kde except only half the disk gets usable :-p
[10:19] <hawaisurf> hi! I have a problem with my mouse cursor it changes to black after the screensaver turned on and then never changes back to white...kan I avoid this?
[10:19] <redguy> ploom: AFAIR there was a comparision at IBM's developerworks as well. look for "Advanced filesystem implemantators guide", note that this is 10+ articles about filesystems
[10:19] <redguy> ploom: oddly, when I last read it it didn't mention IBM's jfs :/
[10:21] <stoned> !amarok-xchat
[10:21] <ubotu> stoned: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:21] <timfrost> !info amarok-xchat
[10:22] <variant> I personally favour XFS at the momment
[10:22] <gridblock> Hello everyone, i have a question: What is the best firewall for Ubuntu Linux?
[10:22] <variant> gridblock: apt-get install firestarter and work with that. or learn iptables and be a real man :P
[10:22] <gridblock> thanks
[10:22] <gridblock> i already know some iptables :)
[10:23] <variant> meh :P
[10:23] <variant> i gotta go to work
[10:23] <variant> later all
[10:23] <redguy> variant: xfs is said to intensively use file cache both for reading and writing, so if you do not have a UPS you might get into trouble if you are in the middle of a power outage...
[10:23] <redguy> !firewall
[10:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[10:23] <mark_> i have gone through the tutorials for getting madwifi to install and it is still saying  cf: cannot stat 'wlan.ko': no such file or directory
[10:24] <mark_> **cp:
[10:24] <brammator> i have installed 5.10 and setup 'root' and 'user' accounts, logged in to gnome as 'user' and try to run synaptic. it asks me for a password, but none of them (root's and user's) doing nothing (no error messages on screen). what's wrong?
[10:25] <redguy> brammator: when did you set up the root account? did you do a server or expert install?
[10:25] <Madpilot> brammator, you didn't need to set up a root pw... Ubuntu is set up do use sudo + user pw...
[10:25] <brammator> expert one
[10:25] <Frogzoo> anybody using gfs? just curious
[10:25] <gridblock> yeah guys. i have a 3com office connect wlan card and i have been told to blacklist prism54 and let ndiswrapper do the work but... i cant find the 3com card driver folder
[10:25] <Madpilot> !tell brammator about sudo
[10:25] <redguy> Frogzoo: gfs? googlefs?
[10:25] <Frogzoo> redguy: redhat's global file system (it's a clustered fs)
[10:25] <jesusxp> is there a way to get ubuntu to recognize windows xp partitions and access them
[10:26] <Frogzoo> !tell jesusxp about ntfs
[10:26] <redguy> brammator: if you want to make the 'user' account be able to use sudo add that user to the admin group
[10:26] <Frogzoo> jesusxp: ntfs is read only, btw
[10:26] <brammator> redguy yeah, thanks, reading about it.
[10:26] <LathropWells> jes google for a bash script written by seveas  "winmac_fstab"
[10:26] <Seveas> LathropWells, that has been given a less crackful name
[10:27] <tjobingo> hello, i'm a newbe who realy would like to try out ubuntu and I have some questions about how to dualboot with windows... could someone give me a short walktrough?
[10:27] <redguy> !tell tjobingo about dualboot
[10:27] <LathropWells> that would explain why it is getting more difficult to find. - grin
[10:28] <gridblock> ..
[10:28] <gridblock> !tell gridblock about ntfs
[10:28] <LathropWells> !tell me about ntfs
[10:29] <solo> anyone wish to help to config kernels?
[10:29] <ompaul> well its not really a good file system
[10:29] <ompaul> (cough)
[10:29] <gridblock> me like ubotu
[10:29] <redguy> gridblock, LathropWells : /msg ubotu ntfs would give you the same...
[10:29] <gridblock> yeah
[10:30] <solo> anyone help to config kernels?
[10:30] <redguy> solo: ask your question
[10:30] <solo> ok...
[10:31] <ompaul> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[10:31] <solo> i need to "make config"
[10:31] <solo> for the kernel
[10:32] <liable> solo: why do you need to compile a kernel now?
[10:32] <gridblock> hehe :P No training lecture loaded.
[10:32] <solo> the ZD1211 driver need me to config kernel
[10:32] <Sonobana> hi!
[10:32] <tjobingo> i have a ati mobility radeon 9600 video card... would I have any trouble finding drivers for it when I'm using ubuntu?
[10:33] <Sonobana> My wlan hangs up after few minutes
[10:33] <Sonobana> is there solution for this?
[10:33] <redguy> !tell tjobingo about ati
[10:34] <solo> it says " to built zd1211 you need configured kernel source code for the kernel you are runnin"
[10:34] <redguy> solo: well, then you just need linux-headers package installed
[10:34] <Shadowpillar> anyone here do windows shares in ubuntu?
[10:34] <redguy> solo: if you are running ubuntu stock kernel
[10:35] <ploom> redguy, i believe they didnt mention jfs because of one of two (or both): the apartment making the advanced filesystem implementor's guide was other than the one dealing with jfs; ibm has FUSE now for implementing filesystems :-)
[10:35] <timfrost> !expert
[10:35] <ubotu> No working sudo after expert install? as root: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin
[10:36] <Madpilot> timfrost, nice - did you just add that?
[10:36] <redguy> ploom: FUSE is from IBM? didn't know that...
[10:36] <redguy> !tell Shadowpillar about ask
[10:39] <timfrost> Madpilot, no.  Not sure when that was added (by cafuego?), but it has been there a while because of thew number of people caught by broken sudo after expert installs.  I just remembered it in the context of the problem that brammator describes
[10:39] <ploom> redguy: no it does not have to be from IBM - they just have discovered it :-)
[10:39] <Madpilot> timfrost, yeah, I wish I'd know about that tell a few days ago, we had about three people in a row who'd broken their sudo...
[10:39] <ploom> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fuse/
[10:40] <ploom> did anyone know that google does not appear to be indexing ibm-s developerworks?
[10:41] <timfrost> !tell Shadowpillar -about samba
[10:42] <vladuz976> hi, does anybody know how i can use sed or something else to strip off part of a filename? i have a bunch of file like "- 149.jpg" and wanna strip off the "- " part
[10:43] <Phlosten> vladuz976, look for something that does 'batch renaming'
[10:43] <vladuz976> ok
[10:44] <dj-fu> rename s/\-1???$// *.jpg
[10:44] <dj-fu> I think.
[10:44] <Frogzoo> vladuz976: echo blah - blah | sed -e 's/\(-.*\)//'
[10:44] <dj-fu> ah, there ya go
[10:44] <Madpilot> vladuz976, there's a "rename" command
[10:44] <dj-fu> rename 's/\(-.*\)//' *.jpg
[10:44] <dj-fu> ^^
[10:44] <alejandro_> :)
[10:44] <llukax> hey can someone tell me whats wrong with this fstab line? : /dev/sda3       /mnt/Secondary  ext3    defaults,rw,exec,sync,umask=0000 0       0
[10:45] <dj-fu> actually that didn't work, ponder
[10:45] <Frogzoo> llukax: does /mnt/Secondary exist?
[10:45] <Phlosten> llukax, what problem do you have with it?
[10:45] <vladuz976> oh i didn't know a bout rename
[10:45] <llukax> yes it exists
[10:46] <dj-fu> rename is just like mv with sed built in :p
[10:46] <llukax> it comes up with an error about missing codepage
[10:46] <llukax> and if i put code page it says wrong file system :/
[10:46] <Frogzoo> llukax: as far as I can see - there's nothing wrong there
[10:46] <llukax> this is what i had before
[10:46] <Shadowpillar> timfrost: okay, that doesn't help me at all
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> vladuz976: rename 's/- //g' *
[10:47] <llukax> /dev/sda3       /mnt/Secondary        ext3    auto,user,ro,exec,sync 0        0
[10:47] <Shadowpillar> timfrost: there is no windows networking option under network settings
[10:47] <yahya> I need help with configuring my sound card. I think I've got the drivers set up ok..
[10:47] <Frogzoo> llukax: ext3 doesn't take umask as an option -> man page
[10:47] <llukax> and that worked
[10:47] <yahya>  but I got a wierd motherboard with six jacks in the back, in Windows I there was a utility to select one for stereo output
[10:47] <yahya> is there a way to do that in linux?
[10:47] <llukax> ah
[10:47] <llukax> any way i can chmod it?
[10:47] <vladuz976> yeah the rename thing worked fine, thanks
[10:48] <stocksy> I'm having a problem with the breezy ppc kernel on an old world mac - is anyone willing to help me?
[10:48] <stocksy> 2.6.10-5 works but 2.6.12-10 doesn't
[10:49] <IsilZha> hi. i'm currently installing ubuntu. one strange thing though: after reboot it is installing the remaining packages. around that end of that process (89%) he sets up the environment for my language. he basically hangs right there since pretty some time and is allocation more and more space on my root partition. about 4gb yet and counting...
[10:49] <Shadowpillar> [2006/03/29 00:49:41, 1]  auth/auth_util.c:make_server_info_sam(840)
[10:49] <Shadowpillar>   User Default in passdb, but getpwnam() fails!
[10:49] <IsilZha> *allocating
[10:50] <IsilZha> i hope somebody can help me before there is no more space left. i doubt i could continue chatting then
[10:51] <stocksy> lsilZha: i think tty4 give you some more info about what is happening
[10:52] <IsilZha> ohhhhhh right there is a huge load of messages there
[10:52] <IsilZha> why tty4?
[10:52] <d-o-b> Will there be a Dapper Flight 6?
[10:52] <brammator> timfrost is that way better than just add '$user (ALL)[etc] ' line to /etc/sudoers through visudo?
[10:53] <FlannelKing> d-o-b: definately.  If nothing else, it'll be released april 20.
[10:53] <stocksy> lsilZha: I dunno - I'm a relative noob ;)
[10:53] <stocksy> i know jsut enough to screw things up *properly*
[10:53] <IsilZha> stocksy: he asks for some input continuesly. how would i provide him with the input he wants?
[10:53] <llukax> thats odd
[10:53] <llukax> it just worked
[10:53] <llukax> even without umask
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> d-o-b: Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[10:54] <llukax> or any chmodding
[10:54] <llukax> :/
[10:54] <LathropWells> will there be frequent flier miles? special chat lobby and fast check in?
[10:54] <LathropWells> (flight 5)
[10:54] <stocksy> lsilZha: what is it asking for?
[10:55] <IsilZha> stocksy: it asks me to either say yes or no
[10:55] <timfrost> brammator, either technique will work.  Just make sure the group exists before you run visudo if you use that
[10:55] <stocksy> lsilZha: is it apt asking if you want to continue installing packages?
[10:56] <wd3> hey i just installed opeara first by apt get but there was no icon i menu, so i reinstalled with synaptic and same thing; how do i get the icon on panel?
[10:56] <IsilZha> stocksy: yes
[10:56] <msaffer> Hi - Does anyone know how I can capture MPlayer output or do a video capture of what my xclient is seeing - that is, record the whole screen??
[10:56] <stocksy> lsilZha: then make it happy, say 'yes'
[10:56] <jesusxp> how do you add something to your PATH so that evertime you open a terminal, your path is set
[10:56] <brammator> timfrost i mean, adding '$user' to sudoers will work fine without any new groups, right? or there may be any glitches?
[10:57] <GTroy> hey guys, how do I change my localhost.localdomain name?
[10:57] <IsilZha> stocksy: how? in tty1? or 4? i tried both already...
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> d-o-b: There is actually a DapperFlight6 page on the wiki as well.
[10:57] <jesusxp> i looked in bashrc (as sudo -i) and I wasnt sure where to put it
[10:57] <wd3> i resinstalled opera with synaptic, i have no start icon on panel.
[10:58] <stocksy> lsilZha: ah, tty4 isn't accepting input from the keyboard?
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> wd3: You gotta fetch an icon yourself with Google image search, put it in your pixmaps directory, and edit the menu to use the icon.
[10:58] <IsilZha> stocksy: no it's just littering my hd with posting this question twice a second...
[10:58] <wd3> tonyyarusso, aaaaaugh
[10:58] <GTroy> anyone know how to change your localhost.localdomain name?
[10:58] <Madpilot> wd3, tonyyarusso Opera ships with it's own icons
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I didn't see 'em.  Care to enlighten me?
[10:59] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/opera.xpm
[10:59] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, I think there are more around, that's just the first one I found when I installed opera
[10:59] <timfrost> brammator, you need the group if you expect multiple users to need sudo rights.  But yes, on one machine, I explicitly added the user.  Don't put '$user' literally in /etc/sudoers
[10:59] <stocksy> lsilZha: sorry, but I've not seen that before
[10:59] <stocksy> does anyone else know?
[10:59] <IsilZha> stocksy: my remaining space reaches 1 gb... is there a way to clear up what was wrote to tty4 so far?
[11:00] <wd3> tonyyarusso, when i edit the menu which file is the exec?
[11:00] <brammator> timfrost yeah, thanks.
[11:00] <wd3> Madpilot, thanks same question.
[11:00] <Madpilot> wd3, for opera, just put "opera" in the command spot
[11:00] <stocksy> lsilZha: sorry dude, I don't know
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Well I'll be...
[11:00] <wd3> Madpilot, was it there?
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I wonder why I didn't think to look there...oh, right, b/c no other icons are stored there.  Heh.
[11:01] <Madpilot> wd3, you don't need to put the full string (subdirectories & such), just the name of the app
[11:01] <Shadowpillar> GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
[11:01] <Shadowpillar> WHY WONT THIS SHIT WORK
[11:01] <redguy> !caps
[11:01] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[11:01] <IsilZha> anybody got an idea? i'm running short of time....
[11:01] <liable> hah, calm down petal :)
[11:01] <mumbles> in an hour and a 1/2
[11:02] <wd3> tonyyarusso, Madpilot , do i always have to do this when installing apps, darn it
[11:02] <Shadowpillar> ...
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> wd3: No.
[11:02] <Madpilot> wd3, not always, most will put themselves into the menus
[11:02] <liable> Shadowpillar: the coc, mumble the coc to yourself..
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> wd3: I've only done maybe one other besides Opera.
[11:02] <Shadowpillar> instead of kicking me and spamming me with bots, can I please get some help with samba?
[11:02] <GTroy> I added my.name where localhost.localdomain was....help!!
[11:02] <wd3> tonyyarusso, so u use opera?
[11:02] <Shadowpillar> it's a strange error I get every time I start samba
[11:03] <stocksy> lsilZha: in the absence of other ideas, maybe just terminate the install and restart it?
[11:03] <Shadowpillar> causes the server to die
[11:03] <Madpilot> Shadowpillar, instead of using caps & swearing, how about asking an actual question?
[11:03] <Shadowpillar> ..I just did
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> wd3: Sometimes.  I vary.  FF1.07, FF1.5, Opera, Konqueror, links2, w3m, elinks, Dillo, Amaya, and a few others.
[11:03] <Shadowpillar> instead of kicking me and spamming me with bots, can I please get some help with samba?
[11:04] <Shadowpillar> er
[11:04] <Hexidigital> is there a list of packages you can install using apt-get? i want to find out what i've been missing out on
[11:04] <Shadowpillar> whoops
[11:04] <redguy> Shadowpillar: so why don't you tell us where did you paste your smb.conf? pastebin.com? paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[11:04] <variant> redguy: thats true.. i have a ups though.. its somthing to consider if you dont thats for sure
[11:04] <redguy> Shadowpillar: and no, nobody is spamming you with bots
[11:04] <Shadowpillar> redguy: I know it's not an error with smb.conf
[11:04] <wd3> tonyyarusso, ive been trying to install ff 1.5 for weeks, still unsuccsful. i just installed opera and man it's fast...
[11:04] <Madpilot> Hexidigital, you can search in Synaptic, or use packages.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <Shadowpillar> [2006/03/29 01:00:20, 1]  auth/auth_util.c:make_server_info_sam(840)
[11:04] <Shadowpillar>   User Default in passdb, but getpwnam() fails!
[11:04] <Hexidigital> thanks madpilot
[11:04] <FlannelKing> Hexidigital: if you're using X, you can go through synaptic, there's a webpage with them, if youre using a terminal you can use aptitude, I don't recommend using apt directly though.
[11:05] <Shadowpillar> thing is, there is no user default in samba's config file at all
[11:05] <IsilZha> stocksy: the problem is that he runs this automatically. it would give me more time... but it wouldn't solve the problem
[11:05] <stocksy> any powerpc users here that can help me with my kernel problem?
[11:05] <Shadowpillar> and where is the samba pass db?
[11:05] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, just FYI, /usr/share/opera/images also has a whole bunch of Opera icons
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> wd3: Definitely takes the cake for fast.  My thing for Firefox is that I'm a bit of an extension, um, hogger, so I still use that primarily.  Recommended Opera for people that just want fast and stable in my blog post yesterday though.
[11:06] <jsestri2> has anyone ever seen this before: I'm using the network for either ftp or ssh, and all of a sudden the network stops working. It says that the eth0 interface is still active, but it clearly does not work. All I have to do is deactivate then activate it again and it starts it right back up. The problem does not occur everytime i use ftp or ssh though or in the exact same places.
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> wd3: I hope you've seen the wiki for your 1.5 troubles?
[11:06] <stocksy> does 2.6.12-10 even support old world openfirmware?
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I must be blind.  Oh well.
[11:06] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, <grin> amazing what Places->Search Files can find for you
[11:06] <GTroy> anyone good with using ubunut as a server?
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I guess.
[11:07] <GTroy> *ubuntu even*
[11:07] <stocksy> GTroy: that's a pretty broad question
[11:07] <stocksy> what kind?
[11:07] <wd3> tonyyarusso, yes but still man it's rough. i'll stick with opera for now. ok so first i have to go to panel and put a installer there with opera in the command line right? then choose an icon for it and voila?
[11:07] <IsilZha> stocksy: i got to go anyway... thanks for trying to help me out
[11:07] <stocksy> lsilZha: sorry I couldn't help more
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> wd3: Launcher, not installer.  But otherwise, yeah.
[11:08] <GTroy> stocksy: I installed apache2 mysql-server php5 php5-gd php5-mysql and id3v2
[11:08] <wd3> tonyyarusso, ok u helped me again.
[11:08] <wd3> Madpilot, u too.
[11:08] <GTroy> and when it asked for localhost.localdomain I used 'my.name'
[11:08] <Madpilot> wd3, no problem
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> wd3: You can add it to the panel, menu, or both, btw.  Right-click the little Ubuntu icon next to "Applications" to edit the menu.
[11:08] <julien> hi !
[11:09] <wd3> tonyyarusso, oh ok.
[11:09] <GTroy> stocksy: maybe you can help me figure out what/how to fix that
[11:09] <julien> I need some help : i need to set en environment variable before X starts
[11:09] <julien> anyone got an idea ?
[11:09] <stocksy> GTroy: is it complaining that my.name doesn't resolve?
[11:09] <GTroy> I get 404 error
[11:09] <Sonobana> /etc/hostname
[11:10] <Sonobana> i guess :o
[11:10] <Sonobana> remember to edit /etc/hosts after or before editing /etc/hostname
[11:10] <stocksy> GTroy: which package asked for a hostname?
[11:10] <GTroy> I don't know it went into a graphical interface
[11:11] <wd3> tonyyarusso, where it says command put "opera"?
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> wd3: Correct.
[11:11] <wd3> tonyyarusso, ok
[11:11] <redguy> Shadowpillar: where the pass db depends on the password backend which is specified in your smb.conf
[11:12] <redguy> s/pass db/ pass db is/
[11:12] <GTroy> stocksy: any ideas what I should do?  maybe reset the hostname?
[11:13] <stocksy> GTroy: I was thinking more along the lines of reconfiguring the package you installed to use the localhost.localdomain hostname for the time being
[11:13] <Shadowpillar> redguy:    passdb backend = tdbsam guest
[11:13] <GTroy> stocksy: I tried to reinstall them with no luck
[11:14] <stocksy> GTroy: did you use dpkg-reconfigure?
[11:14] <balay> in ubuntu/linux where are my usb devices? (/dev/?)
[11:14] <GTroy> stocksy: all of the packages?
[11:14] <GTroy> but to answer your question no
[11:15] <dj-fu> http://www.rauotehuia.co.nz/Screenshot.png
[11:15] <stocksy> GTroy: i don't know which package asked for the hostname, but $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package> will step you through the configuration again for each package
[11:15] <stocksy> maybe this will help
[11:16] <GTroy> stocksy: ok, what should I use as localhost.localdomain?
[11:16] <stocksy> GTroy: leave it as localhost.localdomain for now
[11:17] <GTroy> ok cool
[11:17] <gilianima> what FTP server do you suggest me to install ?
[11:18] <redguy> Shadowpillar: more info needed: did you install samba from the repos? are you running breezy?
[11:18] <Shadowpillar> redguy: yes
[11:18] <wd3> tonyyarusso, everything went well except this on exectution...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11036
[11:19] <Shadowpillar> redguy: thing is, the errors here dont reflect the settings in smb.conf
[11:19] <Shadowpillar> at all
[11:19] <Shadowpillar> and they were working
[11:19] <CryoTox> How do I change the name of a disk?
[11:19] <Shadowpillar> also, no instances of samba are running
[11:19] <Shadowpillar> or nmbd
[11:19] <bimberi> gilianima: vsftpd is in the ubuntu main repository (hence it gets security updates from the core ubumt devs)
[11:20] <redguy> Shadowpillar: it would really help me if you pasted testparm -s output into the pastebin
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> wd3: Taking a look...
[11:20] <redguy> Shadowpillar: no, they are not working if you can't run samba
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> redguy: they were before
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> see, samba was running
[11:21] <redguy> Shadowpillar: and?
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> then it decided to stop and kept giving that reason
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> and even uninstalled, did a clear wipe, and redid the config again, I even backtraced what I did
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> and it still keeps giving me the same error
[11:22] <redguy> Shadowpillar: what do you mean by "clear wipe" ?
[11:22] <Irving> Cool, I sshed through 3 sytems to chat here. God I'm a nerd.
[11:22] <Shadowpillar> redguy: uninstalled samba, uninstalled all configs and basically wiped the package from the system, then reinstalled samba fresh
[11:23] <redguy> Shadowpillar: you are still not precise: does "clear wipe" mean apt-get remove --purge samba ?
[11:23] <Shadowpillar> yes
[11:23] <Irving> How can I be notified when people attempt to, or succeed in, sshing or otherwise logging in my computer?
[11:23] <redguy> Shadowpillar: how about that testparm -s output?
[11:24] <Sonobana> res
[11:24] <CryoTox> Could anyone kindly tell me the command to change a disks name?
[11:24] <Sonobana> CryoTox: what you mean?
[11:25] <Sonobana> floppy disk?
[11:25] <Frogzoo> CryoTox: change the volume label? hdparm
[11:25] <CryoTox> Thank you
[11:25] <Eleaf> lol
[11:25] <Frogzoo> CryoTox: oops - tune2fs
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> wd3: I think I just pointed the path to my Firefox plugins to fix that; not sure about the proper approach.  Maybe the wiki mentions Opera plugins?
[11:26] <Shadowpillar> redguy: http://pastebin.com/628396
[11:26] <wd3> tonyyarusso, thanks
[11:26] <CryoTox> Okay
[11:26] <Shadowpillar> redguy: refresh that
[11:27] <Shadowpillar> it decided to paste some unecessary extra crap
[11:27] <SKoRM> my Ubuntu install is hanging on installing packages at 0% after restart
[11:28] <SKoRM> thnkz for any help
[11:28] <GTroy> anyone used ubuntu center?
[11:28] <HeatBlazer> hello hackers!
[11:28] <GTroy> stocksy: that was why I installed those packages
[11:29] <HeatBlazer> I need some info on using wine
[11:29] <HeatBlazer> I`ve comiled it but some programs are not right,why`s that?
[11:29] <ragunath> how to find which kernal verison i am running
[11:29] <bimberi> ragunath: uname -r
[11:29] <redguy> Shadowpillar: your problem is strange indeed
[11:30] <Shadowpillar> redguy: know where the passdb is located?
[11:30] <SKoRM> .google xresprobe ubuntu install fail
[11:30] <intelikey> HeatBlazer why did you compile it might be a better question
[11:30] <intelikey> !info wine
[11:30] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[11:30] <HeatBlazer> yeah
[11:30] <variant> SKoRM: how long do you wait?
[11:30] <variant> SKoRM: that part of the isntall can take a while fi you have slow internet
[11:31] <SKoRM> along time
[11:31] <SKoRM> probly 15min's
[11:31] <redguy> Shadowline: wait a sec, so that I install samba
[11:31] <stocksy> GTroy: not heard of it - what does it do?
[11:31] <HeatBlazer> I wanted to use my MAME32...just to test it I have GXMAME but I was interested in Wine-Mame32
[11:31] <SKoRM> brb
 !info wine
 wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[11:31] <Shadowpillar> btw
[11:31] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:31] <Shadowpillar> I'd use the repo that they supply for wine
[11:31] <Shadowpillar> the ubuntu one is dated and not functional at all compared to the official wine builds
[11:32] <SKoRM> k back
[11:32] <Shadowpillar> the latest anyway
[11:32] <intelikey> HeatBlazer ok.  now what errors are you getting?
[11:32] <HeatBlazer> Well it just stuck on the loading screen
[11:32] <Shadowpillar> the one ubuntu has is an alpha cvs build and the current one is a mid-beta build
[11:32] <redguy> Shadowpillar: sould be in /var/lib/samba/passdb.tdb
[11:32] <SKoRM> i tryed killing xresprobe or w/e from installing but its on a loop and just restarts trying to install
[11:32] <HeatBlazer> I am loading a ROM(GAME) and it stuck...I have to press alt+ctrl+BCK
[11:32] <linuxboyfriend> what option should i give with "find" so that it not only find the desired filetype (.gz) but can also copy them to some destination (~/mysoftwares)?
[11:33] <roylez> hi all, i use gcc-4.0 to compile a fortran 90 file, but it gives me a lot of errors like "undefined reference to `_gfortran_line'". If using gfortran , it would be okay, anybody know why?
[11:33] <baut> hola buenos dias alguien de la provincia de jaen
[11:33] <HeatBlazer> I want to compile xmame-0.104...Should I or it`s better to wait the synaptic?
[11:34] <Shadowpillar> redguy: thanks, that was the problem, there were several "default" entries in there.
[11:34] <baut> no hay nadie de jaen o provincia
[11:34] <redguy> Shadowpillar: you can also manipulate it with pdbedit, pdbedit -Lv for example will give you detailed info about the account names vaild in samba
[11:35] <redguy> Shadowpillar: so it starts now?
[11:35] <HeatBlazer> if there is anybody working for UBUNTU,please refresh MAME emulators more often!
[11:35] <Shadowpillar> yes
[11:35] <HeatBlazer> I have a version from 2004
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> !es
[11:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:35] <HeatBlazer> :(
[11:36] <HeatBlazer> I am very happy to play via the LINUX but the game support is poor
[11:36] <SKoRM> so did anyone get arround to working out my problem?
[11:36] <redguy> HeatBlazer: try to ask in #ubuntu-motu
[11:36] <pjv> hi is there a call logging software on linux, for helpdesk purposes?
[11:36] <HeatBlazer> THANX certanly I will
[11:37] <variant> pjv: like a technical support helpdesk software kind of thing?
[11:37] <chemaja> pjv: i'm looking for the same thing
[11:37] <teleyinex> hi
[11:38] <chemaja> pjv: closest i've come is enterprise-focused wiki's ie. twiki
[11:38] <teleyinex> one question
[11:38] <pjv> yes
[11:38] <chemaja> haven't installed yet.
[11:38] <redguy> pjv: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=call+logging+linux
[11:38] <teleyinex> i have formatted my usb stick with a LUKS format
[11:38] <pjv> chemaja: url for that?
[11:38] <HeatBlazer> is this a developer`s room?
[11:38] <chemaja> pjv: yes, one sec... i have it here somewhere... aaah yes:    http://justfuckinggoogleit.com
[11:38] <chemaja> ;-)
[11:39] <variant> pjv: lots of info here: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20helpdesk%20software
[11:39] <sreal> hola
[11:39] <variant> chemaja: thats pretty offensive
[11:39] <GTroy> stocksy: sorry left a question on the forums for the author
[11:39] <teleyinex> when i plug it, breezy ask me for a password and then mounts it, but I cant write or delete from it because i dont have permissions
[11:39] <redguy> !es
[11:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:39] <chemaja> variant: yes, or humourous
[11:39] <stocksy> cool
[11:39] <teleyinex> how can  I fix this?
[11:39] <sreal> prueba
[11:39] <GTroy> stocksy: it lets you access certain files from your ubuntu from any web browser anywhere
[11:40] <redguy> teleyinex: what is a LUKS format?
[11:40] <GTroy> music,photos, whatever
[11:40] <SKoRM> !en
[11:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[11:40] <stocksy> GTroy: I googled it, but didn't find a lot, is there a url?
[11:40] <teleyinex> LUKS is a format for encrypted file systems
[11:40] <pjv> yeah well i was just wondering if people here have worked with any, that's all :) ty
[11:40] <GTroy> stocksy: https://ubuntucenter.bountysource.com/
[11:40] <stocksy> thx :)
[11:41] <GTroy> thanks for helping me
[11:41] <sreal> de nada
[11:41] <stocksy> np
[11:41] <teleyinex> the problem here is that gnome-volume-manager doesnt put the rigth permissions
[11:41] <HeatBlazer> ubuntu-motu are a bit cold
[11:42] <Nolt> hi
[11:42] <variant> hi
[11:42] <Nolt> can u help me ?
[11:42] <variant> just ask your question
[11:42] <Nolt> i have little problem with sound
[11:42] <Nolt> i dont have sound in any game in games dir
[11:43] <variant> can you play music mp3 etc?
[11:43] <Nolt> i have soundcard integrated with motherboard
[11:43] <Assassin5> how do I edit the launcher entires in the System->Administration menu
[11:43] <Nolt> yea i have sound in xmms, mplayer everywhere
[11:43] <Nolt> but no in games
[11:43] <variant> Nolt: most of the default games dont come with any sounds (card games etc)
[11:43] <variant> Nolt: what games you playing?
[11:43] <HeatBlazer> I have encountered a problem with GAIM...it doesen`t "want" to transfer files
[11:44] <HeatBlazer> ::(
[11:44] <redguy> !tell Nolt about sound
[11:44] <HeatBlazer> is it a bug?
[11:44] <Nolt> wormux
[11:44] <redguy> Nolt: hi there, ubotu's link might also be helpful
[11:44] <Nolt> :)
[11:44] <Nolt> ok redguy :)
[11:44] <Nolt> ill try
[11:45] <redguy> Nolt: also, wormux is not in the repos, did you compile it?
[11:45] <variant> Nolt: is there any error message? have you tried other games as well or just wormux?
[11:45] <Nolt> hmm i dont remeber name of the game but when i run it i get msg there is no sound card installed
[11:46] <intelikey> ls -l /dev/dsp
[11:46] <stocksy> i'm sorry to be a PITA, but can anyone help with PPC specific problems?  Is there a more appropriate chan to ask in?
[11:46] <Nolt> in sof i dont have sound too but when i go to options klick on default alsa sound my sound is on strange ;/
[11:47] <intelikey> cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:48] <Hexidigital> !antivirus
[11:48] <ubotu> you propably don't need antivirus software. If you are really paranoid you might want to install chkrootkit. Also see !clamav.
[11:48] <Nolt> and with wormux: i installed this game from repos
[11:48] <intelikey> !calmav
[11:48] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[11:48] <Hexidigital> !clamav
[11:48] <ubotu> ClamAV is not required. It purpose is to check files for virii on a server shared with Windows users (eg: mail server). For those that need it for that purpose, it is available in universe.
[11:48] <intelikey> !clamav
[11:49] <Hexidigital> intelikey, clamav won't install for me
[11:49] <tjobingo> I have just installed ubuntu and I have no idea how to install drivers for my wlan card... please help me
[11:49] <Nolt> variant: i tryied now a trigger game and no sound too
[11:49] <stocksy> !ppc
[11:49] <ubotu> somebody said ppc was PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer than Intel.
[11:49] <variant> Nolt: fire up a mixer and make sure all the levels are up
[11:49] <stocksy> ... well I knew that
[11:49] <intelikey> Hexidigital did you search the repos for av software ?
[11:50] <redguy> stocksy: there is #ubuntu-ppc, but there are 4 users there. Try asking in here
[11:50] <Assassin5> tjobingo, what type of card is it?
[11:50] <Hexidigital> intelikey, yes... clamav was the only one i saw... i'm going to try that chkrootkit
[11:50] <Nolt> ok
[11:50] <stocksy> redguy: thanks
[11:50] <Hexidigital> IBM is powerpc?
[11:50] <tjobingo> I have the drivers I just don't now how to install them
[11:50] <intelikey>  Amavis
[11:50] <tjobingo> it's a realtek 8180
[11:51] <stocksy> my problem is with with the most recent kernel not booting
[11:51] <redguy> Hexidigital: IBM *makes* powerpc
[11:51] <stocksy> doesn't seem to like my scsi drives
[11:51] <redguy> stocksy: ouch!
[11:51] <Hexidigital> thanks redguy... i was confused fora  moment
[11:51] <Hexidigital> intelikey, amavis gui based or command line?
[11:51] <stocksy> it works with the hoary kernel, but the breezy one just drops me into busybox
[11:51] <redguy> Hexidigital: but I'm sure that they sell boxen with PPC in them
[11:51] <intelikey> idk
[11:52] <Hexidigital> ty for your help :)  i'll try amavis
[11:52] <intelikey> Hexidigital i was just looking in the repos for you.
[11:52] <redguy> Hexidigital: propalby CLI, but there might be a GUI front-end
[11:52] <Hexidigital> redguy, thanks for both answers :)
[11:52] <redguy> Hexidigital: np
[11:52] <intelikey> amavis-stats - Virus statistics RRDtool frontend for Amavis
[11:52] <intelikey> amavisd-new - Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content filters
[11:52] <brammator> Hexidigital amavis isn't AV itself
[11:53] <brammator> Hexidigital it's interface (see above)
[11:53] <intelikey> Hexidigital why would clamAV not install for you ?
[11:54] <intelikey> what error did it give ?
[11:54] <tjobingo> does anyone know how i install the drivers for my realtek 8180 wlan card?
[11:55] <Hexidigital> hmmm...
[11:55] <Yoric> tjobingo, are these drivers included in Ubuntu or are you planning to use the Windows drivers ?
[11:55] <Yoric> (or any other solution)
[11:55] <Hexidigital> lemme see intelikey
[11:55] <tjobingo> I have downloaded linux drivers form their web site
[11:56] <intelikey> aegis-virus-scanner - A virus scanner for Linux/Unix systems
[11:56] <intelikey> Hexidigital ^
[11:56] <intelikey> prolly not usable for your purpose
[11:57] <Nolt> ok thanks for help i think is good now
[11:57] <gridblock> iam at lv 9 in Xbill :D
[11:57] <Hexidigital> !paste
[11:57] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:58] <variant> tjobingo: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2681.html
[11:58] <intelikey> Hexidigital who flooded ?
[11:58] <sfar> i wonder that too
[11:58] <Hexidigital> intelikey, no one... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11037
[11:58] <intelikey> oh hehhe i see. Hexidigital was just grabbing the rul
[11:59] <Hexidigital> hehe
[11:59] <Hexidigital> i had to bookmark it
[11:59] <Hexidigital> intelikey, aegis-virus-scanner is exactly what i needed.. thank you very much
[11:59] <sfar> you can do "/msg ubotu paste" next tame
[11:59] <sfar> time
[11:59] <intelikey> Hexidigital np
[12:00] <racter> hexidigital is a pretty good nick :)
[12:00] <Hexidigital> thanks sfar
[12:00] <variant> tjobingo: http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/
[12:00] <Hexidigital> thanks racter... i only have 6 fingers
[12:00] <variant> tjobingo: that might be of more use
[12:00] <racter> :)
[12:00] <Hexidigital> :)
[12:00] <intelikey> Hexidigital as for the screen shot.   i don't think i want to start a gui just to look at it, seeing that you are not even "needing" to fix it now.
[12:00] <racter> there was a robot contestant on the program 'robot wars' named 'hexidecimator'
[12:02] <Hexidigital> no... i wanted GUI if i had a problem in the future
[12:02] <Hexidigital> this is just to run a scan once in a while
[12:03] <intelikey> anyone know the exact number of *nix virii ?
[12:04] <redguy_> exact?
[12:04] <intelikey> is it 6 or 5 ?
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: I heard 5.
[12:04] <Hexidigital> hehehe
[12:04] <Hexidigital> i get the point
[12:04] <Hexidigital> :)
[12:04] <racter> with wine + dosbox, we can run all the good virii now
[12:04] <racter> so linux has totally caught up in that arena
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital: We're quite serious, btw.  I just saw that number in something I was reading yesterday.
[12:05] <Hexidigital> my favorite brand of spyware is AOL
[12:05] <Hexidigital> are you saying i should nix my *nix av install?
[12:05] <capull0> buenas
[12:05] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i heard 5 also but the source was, well less than trustworthy; then someone else said 6 so wasn't sure....
[12:05] <capull0> alguien sabe como rular el kde en espaol? eske lo instale sobre el ubuntu
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital: Do you run Apache, VNC, or anything like that?
[12:06] <redguy_> Hexidigital: http://www.f-prot.com/virusinfo/unix.html
[12:06] <Hexidigital> tonyyarusso, not yet
[12:06] <stocksy> racter: that's all well and good for you, but how can those of us on non-x86 run the latest viruses? qemu is too slow :P
[12:06] <Hexidigital> redguy_, 2 virii?
[12:06] <intelikey> Hexidigital no i wasn't trying to lead you in any dirrection on that.   just asking.
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital: Then I'd vote hold off until you do.
[12:06] <Hexidigital> is that since 2002?
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital: You can still do it, but you might just cut back on scan frequency or something.
[12:07] <Hexidigital> ok
[12:07] <redguy_> Hexidigital: the page says that this is not all...
[12:07] <redguy_> Hexidigital: but the order of magnitude is somewhat correct
[12:07] <Hexidigital> hehe... i feel like a junkie who's peers are trying to get me away from doing heroin or something :)
[12:08] <BlueHeron> are their any ps2 emulators?
[12:08] <capull0> someboy knows how to change the kde default language? thanx ;)
[12:09] <ufo> can i use wine with 64bit ubuntu?
[12:10] <cdo> can anyone tell me how to make eth0 take a ip that i want on lan
[12:10] <foxpaul> anyone know if there are any plans for macbook pro support?
[12:10] <redguy_> ufo: MOST PROPABLY NOT
[12:10] <foxpaul> from ubuntu :)
[12:10] <redguy_> cdo: you mean that you want a static interface configuration?
[12:11] <cdo> redguy_ yea
[12:11] <redguy_> cdo: read man interfaces and edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:11] <redguy_> cdo: there should be a GUI way to do it as well...
[12:12] <intelikey> capull0 menu configure kde    maybe ?
[12:13] <intelikey> xman ?
[12:13] <cdo> redguy_ i installed ubuntu in server mode ..
[12:13] <capull0> intelykey sorry i have not xplain correctly mine, i installed kde on ubuntu so all packages are in english, but i had installed kubuntu and i coul use it in spanish
[12:14] <redguy> cdo: so then do waht I told you
[12:14] <capull0> i don't know what packages like kde-base-es... i should download for
[12:15] <capull0> sorry for my english people
[12:15] <intelikey> capull0 in terminal    sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales      && restart X   ?
[12:16] <redguy> capull0: how about apt-get install language-pack-es ?
[12:17] <capull0> intelikey my default language is spanish, in gnome i use spanish, but i have installed kde and it's in english, so i think i should download some packages for the kde specially but i don't know what packages are those
[12:18] <intelikey> redguy yeah i didn't think that the es language pack might not be installed.  good call there.  or scratch that......
[12:18] <redguy> intelikey: your solution is more likely to work
[12:18] <intelikey> capull0 try what i said ^ up there.
[12:19] <intelikey> capull0 in terminal    sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales && sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[12:19] <capull0> intelikey i'm reconfiguring locales now
[12:21] <intelikey> that should set it for you. capull0   if not, you will have to use the kconfig app that kde supplies.
[12:21] <capull0> well that's done
[12:21] <intelikey> or do it by hand in ./*kde*/<something>
[12:22] <intelikey> capull0 restarting x will cause it to take effect.
[12:22] <milan> I have a question.. I installed the latest ATi drivers, but Direct Rendering is still No. How can I enable it?
[12:23] <intelikey> you check the wiki on that ?
[12:23] <intelikey> !ati
[12:23] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:24] <milan> oh thnx, I checked google the whole day but not the wiki :)
[12:24] <intelikey> :)
[12:24] <BlueHeron> hmm
[12:24] <BlueHeron> are their any n64 emulators for linux?
[12:25] <intelikey> yeah that is generally how google works for me..... waste 6 hours then ask some body.
[12:25] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: try vmware
[12:25] <Healot> yes... section "entertainment/games->multiverse/universe"
[12:25] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: i said n64 emulator, not windows garbage
[12:25] <graveson> does anyone have any ideas,i started using  web downloader for X and it just keeps crashing ,after a while app window just dissapears
[12:26] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: oh i c - dunno
[12:26] <cdo> right ... can anyone tell me how to make eth0 take a static ip
[12:26] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: found it anyway
[12:26] <Frogzoo> graveson: wget ?
[12:27] <Frogzoo> cdo: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:27] <stocksy> cdo: in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:27] <redguy> how to make ps display nice values?
[12:27] <phreak97> where do i go to customize my icons?
[12:27] <graveson> frogzon ,is that an alternative
[12:27] <phreak97> under gnome
[12:27] <redguy> cdo: I told you already
[12:27] <capull0> intelikey well the solution was to change language settings in kde menu
[12:27] <Frogzoo> graveson: alternative to?
[12:28] <cdo> redguy i dont use the X interface .. .. if u told me again i wasnt checking sorry ... if so tell me again
[12:28] <intelikey> capull0 yes i though that was the first thing i said.
[12:28] <capull0> intelikey but i also have iso charset so there's no bad thing ;)
[12:28] <Frogzoo> redguy: ps -l
[12:28] <BlueHeron> downloading the full n64 romset ^^
[12:28] <graveson> frogzoo,alternative to downloader for X
[12:28] <capull0> intelikey thanks ;)
[12:28] <intelikey> any time
[12:28] <Frogzoo> graveson: yes - wget is really very nice for mirroring sites
[12:29] <phreak97> someone?
[12:29] <intelikey> and the -c option for continuing a get....
[12:29] <stocksy> cdo: just google /etc/network/interfaces - there are many examples you could adapt (or try man interfaces)
[12:29] <graveson> frogzoo:ok thanks
[12:29] <cdo> stardash_ thanks
[12:29] <phreak97> intelikey, know where to change icons?
[12:29] <cdo> stocksy **
[12:29] <redguy> cdo: np, but i first told you how to do that in CLI, then mentioned that there might be a GUI way to do it
[12:29] <redguy> Frogzoo: thanks
[12:30] <intelikey> phreak97 well in what ?   and probably not, i'm not even running a gui.
[12:30] <concept10> what is this for in sessions? nm-applet --sm-disable  .. I know what nm-applet is but not the disable part
[12:30] <phreak97> in gnome
[12:31] <styx2006> can i somehow active acpi on my toshiba m40?
[12:31] <intelikey> phreak97 gnome ok.    check for theems  in the menus.
[12:31] <BlueHeron> !ace
[12:31] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueHeron
[12:31] <BlueHeron> does archive manager open .ace?
[12:31] <Hexidigital> phreak97, try http://art.gnome.org/
[12:31] <BlueHeron> i'll just rename it to .rar maybe that will work o.O
[12:32] <redguy> BlueHeron: it won't
[12:32] <BlueHeron> redguy: ahh, does .ace work on linux @ all/
[12:32] <BlueHeron> ?
[12:32] <petriai> BlueHeron: doint renaming like that is renaming your c:\windows to c:\ubuntu_linux :)
[12:32] <redguy> BlueHeron: uncompressing .ace files is possible when you install the unace package
[12:33] <BlueHeron> redguy: unace okay
[12:33] <BlueHeron> redguy: i had it the whole time :-P
[12:34] <phreak97> Hexidigital, i found an icon set i like, but it doesnt have some icons, i want to use icons from another set for those
[12:34] <phreak97> so i need to customize icons for just a few file types
[12:34] <intelikey> c:\windows  hehhe
[12:34] <redguy> !ace
[12:34] <ubotu> Uncompressing .ace files is possible when you install the unace package, which is in the universe repository. Also ask me about restricted.
[12:34] <Hexidigital> phreak, i see
[12:35] <redguy> hmm the restricted part is not necessary :/
[12:35] <intelikey> phreak97 gnome configuration editor maybe ?
[12:35] <intelikey> how ever it's called.
[12:35] <Hexidigital> when i had windows, i used winamp to stream music while i did my computer stuff... is there an equivalent to that in ubuntu?
[12:36] <cdo> redguy how to restart the eth0 device ?
[12:36] <BlueHeron> Hexidigital: xmms can stream music
[12:36] <BlueHeron> Hexidigital: most players can
[12:36] <redguy> cdo: if you want to have it start automatically at boot don't forget to put a 'auto eth0' line in your interfaces file
[12:37] <Hexidigital> thanks blueheron, i dont think i have any music players installed yet
[12:37] <redguy> cdo: to start the device you should use ifup eth0
[12:37] <cdo> redguy sure
[12:37] <BlueHeron> Hexidigital: i think rhythymbox comes default, and it can stream music
[12:37] <redguy> cdo: to bring it down you should use ifdown eth0
[12:37] <Hexidigital> thanks intelikey also
[12:38] <redguy> cdo: AFAIK ifconfig doesn't use the interfaces file, so you should stick with ifup and ifdown for manaiging the interface
[12:38] <damousys> hey peeps
[12:40] <protocol1> hows it going
[12:40] <damousys> ive got a problem i accedently chowned /etc/run/sudo to www-data
[12:40] <damousys> how can i change that?
[12:40] <phreak97> intelikey, where do i find thaT?
[12:41] <Nolt> hey
[12:41] <nathanj> wheres the wikipage for dualmonitors?
[12:41] <redguy> damousys: /etc/run/sudo?? you could propably change it when root, if sudo is broken now boot in the emergency mode
[12:41] <intelikey> phreak97 system admin ?
[12:41] <redguy> !dualhead
[12:41] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, redguy
[12:42] <redguy> hrm
[12:42] <intelikey> damousys chown it to root
[12:42] <phreak97> intelikey, nope
[12:42] <Nolt> i have problem with apache: on windows ppl download from my server with about 40kb/s and on linux same apache with standard configuration same files they have speed about 5kb/s what is wrong? somthing is blocking or what ?? PLEASE HELP
[12:44] <Nolt> anybody ?
[12:44] <ragunath> i want to install gsoap package in ubuntu , but when i install i get lot of errors
[12:44] <ragunath> gcc -Wall -O2 -I../..  -o handler handler.c soapC.c soapClient.c soapServer.c ../../stdsoap2.c -lpthread
[12:44] <ragunath> In file included from soapH.h:10,
[12:44] <ragunath>                  from handler.c:31:
[12:44] <ragunath> soapStub.h:37: error: syntax error before public
[12:44] <intelikey> phreak97 i don't like gnome.  don't have it installed.  and don't remember just where the  gnome configuration editor  is located in the menu.    sorry if this sounds mean or anything, but surely you can find it.  you have it right in front of you.
[12:44] <damousys> intelikey - I cant do that because my sudo is broken
[12:45] <damousys> redguy - owke and what should i do when i am in emergency mode ?
[12:45] <intelikey> damousys sure you can reboot to single mode fix it and restart.
[12:45] <nathanj> how do i get shortcuts to apps on my desktop in a nice little maxosx like bar? ;p
[12:46] <Frogzoo> nathanj: take a look at gdesklets
[12:46] <redguy> damousys: chown it to root. when you boot in the rescue mode you will be root, so you don't need to use sudo.
[12:47] <redguy> damousys: note that there is no /erc/run/sudo on my system. Maybe you meant /var/run/sudo ?
[12:47] <nathanj> Frogzoo: yeah but dunno which desklet to use :)~
[12:48] <xstation> hi
[12:48] <damousys> redguy - yes i meant @ var owke but ive got a problem with it it is a server @ datacenter so and no X
[12:48] <xstation> anyone ever used fdisk
[12:48] <redguy> xstation: use cfdisk
[12:48] <damousys> redguy - how can i reboot
[12:48] <SplashTK> Hey.,
[12:48] <Frogzoo> xstation: fdisk has been known to work
[12:48] <xstation> redguy: cfdisk?
[12:49] <redguy> damousys: hmm, no sudo you say
[12:49] <SplashTK> I was wondering if someone could answer a few questions for me regarding installing unbuntu.
[12:49] <damousys> redguy - yep
[12:49] <phreak97> intelikey, i found it, but it didnt help me
[12:49] <babo> Hi guys, I have an SQL statement like this   SELECT VALUE WHERE DATE1=$DATE OR DATE2=$DATE OR DATE3=$DATE OR DATE4=$DATE ...    what's the easiest way to find out which of the columns has matched my date ? ie. DATE2 ? DATE3 ?
[12:49] <Frogzoo> SplashTK: that's why this chan exists - just ask
[12:49] <bimberi> SplashTK: ask away, if some can help they'll answer
[12:49] <xstation> what is the difference between cfdisk and fdisk?
[12:50] <Frogzoo> xstation: -> man cfdisk, man fdisk :D
[12:50] <redguy> damousys: you should be able to reboot it when you hit ctrl-alt-del on a keyboard attached to the box
[12:50] <SplashTK> Frogzoo, thanks. Well I have a PC right, with Windows XP on it, I was wondering if I could install Unbuntu and still keep WIndows XP, so I can dual boot them?
[12:51] <damousys> yes but then i need to travel 100 KM to do that
[12:51] <intelikey> Frogzoo can you help phreak97 change icons in gnome for certan types ?
[12:51] <Frogzoo> SplashTK: yes indeed - it's easiest if you already have a partition spare > 20gig, otherwise you'll need to shrink the xp partition - be sure to defrag before shrinking
[12:51] <Frogzoo> intelikey: phreak97 hmm... lemme see
[12:52] <redguy> damousys: well, how do you intend to select anything in GRUB if youre not physically at the box?
[12:52] <SplashTK> Frogzoo, What would you recomend I partiotion with?
[12:52] <damousys> i thought maybe with a command
[12:52] <hili> 
[12:53] <phreak97> Frogzoo, ?
[12:53] <redguy> damousys: no sudo at all? try sudo -u www-data -i
[12:53] <ompaul> hili, this is an english language channel there may be a #ubuntu-il
[12:54] <damousys> luckely it is an virtual vmware machine but i can't acces that so i need to go to my boss
[12:54] <Frogzoo> SplashTK: fdisk has worked perfectly for the last 10 years, so that's what I stick with
[12:54] <redguy> damousys: or sudo -u www-data chmod root:root /var/run/sudo
[12:54] <SplashTK> Frogzoo, are there any risks in partitioning my drive?
[12:54] <redguy> damousys: maybe sudo will let you su to www-data
[12:55] <nornagon> mpc is acting up:
[12:55] <redguy> damousys: try the sudo with chmod, this might work
[12:55] <nornagon> echo $MPD_HOST:$MPD_PORT
[12:55] <nornagon> 192.168.0.20:6600
[12:55] <nornagon> mpc
[12:55] <nornagon> MPD_HOST and/or MPD_PORT environment variables are not set
[12:55] <LinuxNoob> Hi! I'm new to Ubuntu. Does any1 have a minute to explain some basics about installing new programs? Tnx
[12:55] <damousys> i call my chief to fix it he has acces to vmware esx
[12:56] <damousys> i can't get an ssh connection now
[12:56] <kbrooks> LinuxNoob, We al do.
[12:56] <nathanj> i want dual monitors but on the second want all i want to do is be able to play movies and maybe have rhythm box open (its a old bunky 15")
[12:56] <patrick52222> wat would i be better of doing formating a spare 250gig in to wat format for storage
[12:56] <kbrooks> LinuxNoob, what program do you want to install?
[12:56] <nathanj> i have nvidia card do i use twinview or xinerama/
[12:56] <geniusvicks> is there a separate channel for open office?
[12:56] <redguy> !tell LinuxNoob abuit installing
[12:56] <redguy> !tell LinuxNoob about installing
[12:56] <kbrooks> redguy, noooooooooooooo
[12:56] <LinuxNoob> Hehe but I don't even know how to install a new firefox
[12:56] <LinuxNoob> hehe
[12:56] <redguy> kbrooks: why not?
[12:56] <kbrooks> redguy, 1. no flooding
[12:57] <kbrooks> LinuxNoob, why do you want the newest?
[12:57] <SplashTK> Frogzoo, are there any risks in partitioning my drive?
[12:57] <bimberi> geniusvicks: #openoffice.org
[12:57] <redguy> kbrooks: hmm, there was a typo in the first !tell, hence the flood
[12:57] <geniusvicks> Thank you
[12:57] <kbrooks> LinuxNoob, the firefoxin your ubuntu versio should work for you
[12:58] <LinuxNoob> kbrooks, : because its better?
[12:58] <redguy> damousys: you still there?
[12:58] <damousys> yep
[12:58] <kbrooks> LinuxNoob, thats not a reason,imo
[12:58] <Hexidigital> LinuxNoob, you trying to install firefox 2.0?
[12:58] <LinuxNoob> kbrooks, : I want the newest + thunderbird
[12:58] <patrick52222> wat format should i make my spare 250gigbyte hard drive
[12:58] <redguy> damousys: no luck with sudo -u www-data?
[12:58] <cdo> how to change the computer name ?
[12:58] <kbrooks> Hexidigital, huh? firefox 2.0?
[12:58] <geniusvicks> How do I paste the text I typed in Open Office Math to the document in Open office writer
[12:58] <Hobbsee> Hexidigital: probably 1.5
[12:58] <Hexidigital> uh, oh... i guess i shouldn'tve said anything
[12:58] <damousys> nope i can't get connected with ssh
[12:58] <LinuxNoob> Hexidigital, : I've got fire 1.0.7...i know there is at newer 1. Not the 2.0
[12:59] <Hobbsee> !tell LinuxNoob about firefo1.5
[12:59] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[12:59] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:59] <Hobbsee> !tell LinuxNoob about firefox1.5
[12:59] <LinuxNoob> tnx
[12:59] <Hexidigital> hold on.. i know the project name
[12:59] <phreak97> Frogzoo, i need to change icons for certain filetypes in gnome
[12:59] <SplashTK> How do I partition my HDD with Fdisk?
[12:59] <BlueHeron> .ace format sucks
[12:59] <BlueHeron> -_-
[12:59] <redguy> SplashTK: use cfdisk
[12:59] <gimmulf> How do i find out the ip of my router?
[12:59] <Frogzoo> phreak97: yep, I took a bit of a look but can't see anything obvious - maybe check the gnome docs
[12:59] <Hexidigital> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/releases/2.0a1.html
[01:00] <SplashTK> redguy, where do I find that?
[01:00] <Frogzoo> SplashTK: is this a new disk?
[01:00] <phreak97> Frogzoo, gnome docs?
[01:00] <Hexidigital> it's a pre-alpha to a point
[01:00] <SplashTK> Frogzoo, no.
[01:00] <cdo> someone tell me how to change the domain in the ubuntu from localhost.localdomain to something else
[01:00] <SplashTK> Frogzoo, it's the one I am using now.
[01:00] <Frogzoo> phreak97: gnome.org
[01:01] <redguy> SplashTK: run cfdisk from the terminal
[01:01] <ompaul> cdo  hostname - show or set the systems host name
[01:01] <redguy> SplashTK: you are running ubuntu, aren't you?
[01:01] <cdo> obsvuugj set the systems host name
[01:01] <cdo> ompaul set the systems host name
[01:01] <redguy> SplashTK: note that cfdisk won't resize partitions for you
[01:01] <SplashTK> redguy, no I am in windows XP atm, I want to install unbuntu
[01:02] <redguy> SplashTK: you can repartition in the installer
[01:02] <redguy> SplashTK: no need to prepare partitions before
[01:02] <ompaul> cdo  program: hostname does this> show or set the systems host name syntax>> hostname newname
[01:02] <Frogzoo> SplashTK: just please defrag before resizing any windows partitions
[01:02] <painkiler> hey, any guide for installing flock on ubuntu?
[01:02] <redguy> SplashTK: be warned that you should backup all your data before installing
[01:02] <cdo> ompaul ok thanks
[01:03] <patrick52222> wat format should i make my spare 250gigbyte hard drive, it will be used for linux
[01:03] <painkiler> they really don't have sources... its a little hard
[01:03] <Frogzoo> patrick52222: you've asked this before - ext3
[01:03] <SplashTK> Okay, thanks for helping :)_
[01:03] <SplashTK> I will defrag, backup and install.
[01:03] <patrick52222> did i, ow sorry
[01:04] <SplashTK> ANd in the installer it will let me partition?
[01:04] <patrick52222> ow yeh, and i asked if windows could view linux partitions didnt i
[01:05] <cdo> ompaul how to remove the localhost.localdomain thing ?
[01:06] <ompaul> cdo, from what
[01:06] <intelikey> phreak97 brain storm just hit.   one could use these three steps.     1. make a backup copy of the pic's that gnome is now using.   2. copy the pic's you want over the ones now being displiyed   3. restart gnome.    viola new icons
[01:06] <ompaul> cdo, hostname changes that but what program is telling you that
[01:06] <cdo> ompaul ah its ok now
[01:07] <phreak97> intelikey, i thought of that, i think i might do it
[01:07] <intelikey> phreak97 they will be some place in /usr/X11/   i assume.
[01:08] <phreak97> yeah, ill do it tomorrow
[01:08] <intelikey> now by to my syntax error....
[01:08] <phreak97> thanks
[01:08] <LinuxNoob> How come I always get a don't have permission to write and so on every time I try to copy files to a folder?
[01:08] <intelikey> :)
[01:08] <LinuxNoob> to the opt/ folder
[01:10] <intelikey> LinuxNoob because it is owned by root and set  755    you could  sudo cp file /opt/  or chown /opt  (bad idea)    or chmod /opt (another bad idea)
[01:10] <shukhrat> who can hrlp with apache2
[01:10] <shukhrat> *help
[01:10] <shukhrat> who can help with apache2
[01:11] <GnarusLeo> shukhrat, just ask the freakin q's ...
[01:11] <lilon> HI
[01:11] <intelikey> maybe shukhrat is just taking a poll
[01:11] <lilon> 
[01:11] <GnarusLeo> seems like it :)
[01:12] <GnarusLeo> lilon, ching ching right back at ya
[01:12] <GURT> hey now
[01:12] <shukhrat> intelikey: my Apache don't regonize cyrillic
[01:12] <Assassin5> how do I edit the system menu on my desktop?
[01:13] <GnarusLeo> Assassin5, gnome has a feature for that, look around in menus
[01:13] <Nookie^> right klick on system -> edit
[01:14] <intelikey> Nookie^ i thought M$ patented 'right click' so no one else could use it......
[01:15] <Robbster> lo all. I've started using the eclipse packaged for dapper. I think that it is in multiverse, but the performance is hisseous under the blackdown jvm. using the sun jvm fixed the perf. issue. Who should I let know?
[01:15] <Robbster> s/hisseous/hideous/
[01:15] <intelikey> shukhrat i know nothing about http:  sorry.
[01:16] <shukhrat> intelikey: :(
[01:16] <shukhrat> how apache2 work with cyrrilic
[01:16] <shukhrat> ?
[01:16] <shukhrat> how apache2 work with cyrillic?
[01:16] <Assassin5> Nookie^, you mean 'Edit Menus'? Cause that only lets you edit the Applications menu.
[01:16] <Frogzoo> shukhrat: yes, we hear you
[01:17] <shukhrat> Frogzoo: how apache2 work with cyrillic?
[01:17] <d-o-b> whoa. 360mb + of updates for Dapper Flight 5 alone!?
[01:18] <Hexidigital> !splash
[01:18] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[01:19] <Healot> shukhrat: , change the codepage to iso8859-15?
[01:19] <shukhrat> Healot: Hello Dear Friend
[01:19] <shukhrat> Healot: i already change no efect !
[01:20] <intelikey> d-o-b  that aint bad just installing gnome here says  ---> After unpacking 619MB of additional disk space will be used.
[01:20] <Healot> hey... restart apache
[01:21] <shukhrat> Healot: restarted no way !
[01:21] <intelikey> hehhe 619m  that's bigger than my hd
[01:21] <shukhrat> Healot: <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1251"> this in my page is ti rigth ?
[01:22] <d-o-b> I hope it fixes the OOo menu transparency. :-)
[01:23] <Healot> no... "koi8-r" should be more compatible with Russian characters
[01:23] <Nolt> hey i need help
[01:23] <Nolt> again with this sound in games
[01:23] <shukhrat> Healot: youe advise change to KOI8-r ?
[01:24] <Nolt> i enabled all mixers
[01:24] <shukhrat> Healot: your advise change to KOI8-r ?
[01:24] <toufixm> slt
[01:24] <Nolt> and when i run lbreakout2 i have this
[01:24] <toufixm> kelkun parle francais ici
[01:24] <phreak97> omfg, i dont want to do it that way just on princepal, that's utterly stupid
[01:24] <Nolt> Couldn't open /usr/share/games/lbreakout2/sounds/menu_motion.wav (Audio device hasn't been opened)
[01:24] <Nolt> wtf :/.
[01:24] <phreak97> some tell me a REAL way to change icons of individual files
[01:24] <phreak97> or even how to edit an icon set with a third party app
[01:25] <phreak97> i dont care
[01:25] <Healot> yes... your russian characterset should be koi8-r
[01:25] <dre|> noob here, would you guys say that ubuntu is the most popular linux distrubtion
[01:25] <phreak97> someone*
[01:25] <toufixm> do you speak french please??
[01:25] <Healot> checkon the apache manual for which characterset that apache support, shukhrat
[01:25] <GnarusLeo> dre|, indeed ... and the most user friendly :)
[01:25] <Healot> toufixm: , je parle francais, un peut
[01:25] <aerich> I have a really tricky problem, can someone help? trying to install the 'cmap-adobe-cns1' package, which has chinese fonts for adobe reader; but when the package installs, i get this error line: "Can't exec "/usr/bin/mkcfm": No such file or directory at /var/lib/defoma/scripts/x-ttcidfont-conf.defoma line 791"   there is no 'mkcfm's anywhere on my system. it seems like it should be part of xorg, and has been moved from x11r6/libs
[01:25] <aerich>  to /usr/bin. can anyone shed some light on this? it seems completely broken in ubuntu, but i can't find any support on it because it's such an obscure thing.
[01:26] <aerich> x11r6/bin soryr
[01:26] <aerich> er, sorry
[01:26] <aerich> * spelling
[01:26] <dre|> GnarusLeo: thanks
[01:27] <shukhrat> Healot: when i open my file in browser (without apache2 (i mean localhost) ) it's work good but problem is when i open in localhost instead cyrillic .....  something else
[01:28] <babo> hi guys, I have a text box that I want to preload with some text ... I've put my text into the 'value' part, but it doesn't show on the page ... ?
[01:28] <Healot> i am not really expert on apache, but there is something wrong with your apache conf, teh charset part
[01:28] <babo> oh wait , there it is
[01:28] <ompaul> aerich, apt-cache search mkcfm shows this >>x-ttcidfont-conf - Configure TrueType and CID fonts for X<< so I guess install x-ttcidfont-conf
[01:29] <Assassin5> anyone know how to edit the system menu?
[01:29] <redguy> babo: why not ask on #html ?
[01:29] <babo> redguy: there's no-one on #html
[01:30] <aerich> ompaul, did that, no go
[01:30] <redguy> babo: I saw ~100 nicks there
[01:30] <protocol1> !beer
[01:30] <GnarusLeo> *drewls*
[01:30] <ompaul> !bot
[01:30] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:30] <babo> redguy: I know ... I asked there before here and there has been no replies or chatter ..
[01:31] <ompaul> aerich, I am now stuck for ideas
[01:31] <darkbaron> i have a problem whit ubuntu who can help me?
[01:31] <ompaul> !anyone
[01:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[01:31] <darkbaron> why cant start port 22 on my machine?
[01:31] <redguy> babo: strange.. :/
[01:31] <darkbaron> whit sshd?
[01:32] <mudtub> very strange... I agree
[01:32] <darkbaron> if i try to open port 22 on my machine
[01:32] <babo> redguy: yeah I know ... it's ok anyway though I got it ... thanks :-)
[01:32] <darkbaron> done me error
[01:32] <aerich> ompaul, =P
[01:32] <visik7> why there are 2 version of eric in repo ? eric and eric3 ?
[01:32] <GnarusLeo> darkbaron, which error?
[01:32] <ompaul> aerich, defoma have you got defoma installed?
[01:32] <Assassin5> babo, try #web, much detter web developer channel
[01:32] <GnarusLeo> visik7, versions
[01:32] <visik7> GnarusLeo: they are both eric 3.x
[01:32] <babo> Assassin5: thanks
[01:32] <darkbaron> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[01:32] <visik7> GnarusLeo: one eric 3.7 and the other eric 3.4
[01:33] <GnarusLeo> visik7, then just different compiler packages ... both are probably suitable, get the 3.7
[01:33] <visik7> oook
[01:33] <aerich> ompaul, yes
[01:33] <visik7> GnarusLeo: do u use it ?
[01:33] <GnarusLeo> visik7, no
[01:34] <ompaul> aerich, guess its time to poke in here --> defoma-doc - Debian Font Manager documentation
[01:35] <phreak97> anyone here actually USE ubuntu?
[01:35] <ompaul> aerich, you know your launchpad account? bug report?
[01:35] <tortho> Anyone who can help with enabling wireless card with Ralink 2500. The card does show up, but does not pick up ip adr. (DHCP)
[01:35] <GnarusLeo> phreak97, umm ... yeah? prob 80% (i hope)
[01:35] <doigmaonemobil> hello, im having trouble activating universe and multiverse repositorys
[01:36] <GnarusLeo> tortho, try "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[01:36] <darkbaron> GnarusLeo : whit which comand i can start ssh 22 on my machine?
[01:36] <phreak97> GnarusLeo, wouldnt you think someone would have changed an icon?
[01:36] <phreak97> like i need to
[01:36] <shukhrat> Healot: solved !
[01:36] <Healot> great, how did you do that?
[01:36] <aerich> ompaul, i might file one, i'm just thinking now which X package would provide mkcfm, maybe i can reinstall it or something
[01:36] <GnarusLeo> dark, /etc/init.d/sshd start (or /etc/init.d/open-ssh start) or whatever .. remember sudo
[01:36] <GnarusLeo> phreak97, for what?
[01:37] <tortho> GnarusLeo: I have the network manager, and have set it to use dhcp... bla bla... but when I Activate, it says that its is activated, but NO, it doesn't have any IP, and is not working...
[01:37] <doigmaonemobil> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11039 - there is my sources.list file
[01:37] <shukhrat> Healot: did'nt touch anything but roblem is gone :)
[01:37] <GnarusLeo> tortho, what does you "ifconfig" say? is it up?
[01:37] <ompaul> aerich, well my search showed only one thing - and that did not seem to work for you
[01:37] <shukhrat> Healot: did'nt touch anything but problem is gone :)
[01:37] <Healot> shukhrat: , weird
[01:37] <GnarusLeo> tortho, try "sudo ifconfig ethX up" Where X is the adapter number
[01:37] <shukhrat> Healot: magic !
[01:38] <Ramunas> hello
[01:38] <Healot> it;s the browser cache, shukhrat :)
[01:38] <Ramunas> i have one problem http://my.opera.com/Ramunas/blog/show.dml/199779
[01:38] <graveson> can anyone help me to set the http proxy variable for wget
[01:38] <tortho> GnarusLeo: Yes, but without any IP. I have tryed the ifconfig ra0 up, and it can't get any ip from dhcp. Also if I set a ip manually, it cant detect my nettwork..
[01:38] <Ramunas> can anybody help me with this?
[01:39] <GnarusLeo> tortho, then it might be a network setting .. (does other computers work at WAN) ?
[01:39] <kijun> hi
[01:39] <shukhrat> Healot: no
[01:39] <kijun> ha ha ha
[01:39] <Assassin5> on my system if a program is launched with gksu it works, with gksudo it doesn't. Aren't these the same thing?
[01:39] <GnarusLeo> Ramunas, have you tried "pmount /dev/XXX" ?
[01:40] <shukhrat> Healot: now my apache work correct
[01:40] <Healot> Ramunas: does your disk has a write lock?
[01:40] <kijun> does anyone know when new version of ubuntu will be released?
[01:40] <GnarusLeo> Ramunas, pmount lets normal users rw to external storrage
[01:40] <tortho> GnarusLeo: The card was not detected at install of Ubuntu, but did show up  in the netwrk manager after a reboot... So I guess it is a driver issue... My other computers does work just fine. Is using my laptop to write this message through wireless...
[01:40] <Frogzoo> kijun: june 1
[01:40] <Ramunas> GnarusLeo nope, i haven`t
[01:40] <Healot> kijun: , 06/04
[01:40] <kijun> Thank you Frogzoo
[01:40] <Healot> 06/06 sorry, delayed
[01:40] <GnarusLeo> tortho, aha, wich card?
[01:41] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[01:41] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:41] <kijun> Thank you Healot too ^^
[01:41] <shukhrat> Healot: anyway Many Thanks !
[01:41] <tortho> GnarusLeo: Is there any firmare... C-Net CWP-854 with Raling 2500 chipset
[01:41] <GnarusLeo> tortho, never heard of it .. btw, is it listed in "lspci" ?
[01:41] <Frogzoo> Healot: hmmm... does ubotu need an update?
[01:41] <Healot> shukhrat: teach me russian/cyrillic
[01:41] <GnarusLeo> tortho, Ill snoop around .. hold a sec
[01:42] <Pitersburgs> hi, I just wondering, Ubuntu powerpc version is ready for 64-bit G5 cpus or not?
[01:42] <Healot> ppc?
[01:42] <Healot> i guess so?
[01:42] <graveson> anyone know hot set the http proxy variable for wget
[01:42] <kijun> Of course... every distro need to be updated
[01:43] <tortho> GnarusLeo: Yes it is in the lspci. Is there any firmware or something on this that might be in the wrong path? I had some trouble with that on my laptop earlier.. but can't really remember how it was solved.
[01:43] <shukhrat> Healot: no problem !
[01:43] <LinuxNoob> Why doesn't this work. Said so on FireFox: sudo -C  /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz
[01:43] <GnarusLeo> tortho, perhaps ... seems like your not the only one with this problem .. hold on a sec
[01:43] <cdo> hey guys i think i made a blunder with the /etc/network/interfaces
[01:43] <Healot> Apple iBook and Powerbook, G4 and G5 >> Pitersburgs
[01:43] <shukhrat> Healot: are you really want lean russian ?
[01:43] <LinuxNoob> The -C does seem to be right
[01:43] <cdo> i set /etc/network/interfaces to take a specific host .. now the box is not getting net access
[01:44] <Healot> yeah... mostly how to read cyrillic alphabets, this would the first
[01:44] <kijun> How can I make my DSL connection on boot time?
[01:44] <ubushine> cdo, how and what did you ad?
[01:44] <Pitersburgs> Healot: I meant new 64-bit G5
[01:44] <phreak97> GnarusLeo, a few different filetipes
[01:44] <Pitersburgs> Healot: there is no problem with them?
[01:44] <cdo> Ubugtu ok w8
[01:44] <shukhrat> Healot: Where are from ?
[01:44] <Healot> Pitersburgs can new G5 runs 32 bit Mac app?
[01:44] <shukhrat> Healot: Where are you from ?
[01:44] <ompaul> kijun, system administration networking (unless you have some mad wifi)
[01:44] <Pitersburgs> Healot: sure
[01:44] <Healot> me... I am from China :)
[01:45] <GnarusLeo> phreak97?
[01:45] <koobi> is anyone here familiar with the ubuntu guide's entry on fixing sound on gnome? i want to know if i can apply that same patch to a kubuntu system for my friend?
[01:45] <Healot> Pitersburgs: , then it should be able to run 32bit Mac app/OS like x64 does
[01:45] <shukhrat> Healot: :) we are neiboors !
[01:45] <GnarusLeo> tortho, have you the rt2500 driver? Its suppose to work with that
[01:45] <ompaul> !ubuntuguie
[01:45] <ubotu> ompaul: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:45] <Healot> shukhrat, kidding, Malaysia
[01:45] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[01:45] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:45] <kijun> Ompaul:  I tried it many times
[01:45] <Pitersburgs> Healot: I hope so, thanks for comment
[01:46] <ompaul> kijun, is it ethernet or something else?
[01:46] <cdo> ubushine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11041
[01:46] <kijun> ompaul: but it never worked.. so I have to do "pppoeconf" every time
[01:46] <shukhrat> Healot: good
[01:46] <LinuxNoob> How come the -C command doesn't seem to work ?   "
[01:46] <LinuxNoob> sudo -C  /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz"
[01:46] <GnarusLeo> tortho, have a look here: http://home.bb-zone.com/index.php/Ralink_RT2500_Linux_Howto
[01:46] <kijun> ompaul:  ethernet
[01:46] <shukhrat> Healot: i like Malaysia
[01:46] <tortho> GnarusLeo: I guess so, ... the card does also show up in the Device Manager under Gnome, and it looks like it has all the info it needs...
[01:46] <Healot> do you have the liveCD/installCD for PPC, Pitersburgs?
[01:46] <ompaul> kijun, is the router running dhcp?
[01:47] <kijun> ompaul, yes I do
[01:47] <Healot> shukhrat: been anywhere out of mother Russia?
[01:47] <GnarusLeo> tortho, yep, try reconfigure the module with that adress I gave you ..
[01:47] <koobi> does anyone know if the ubuntu guide's fix for sound on gnome will work on Kubuntu as well?
[01:47] <cdo> ubushine
[01:47] <shukhrat> Healot: apakhabar
[01:47] <GnarusLeo> tortho, nevermind :) use this one instead! http://www.flamingspork.com/blog/2005/01/14/rt2500-wireless-pci-card-on-ubuntu/
[01:47] <kijun> ompaul:  I use DSL service, and I only use DSL modem
[01:47] <stocksy> LinuxNoob: do you mean sudo tar -xzvf firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz -C /opt ?
[01:47] <phreak97> GnarusLeo, i need to change the icons associated with a few different filetypes
[01:48] <Healot> baik... sihat///
[01:48] <kijun> ompaul:  it use DHCP in software manner
[01:48] <ubushine> cdo, you don't have auto eth0, and try adding broadcast 192/168.0.255
[01:48] <ubushine>  and network 192.168.0.0
[01:48] <snowblink> how can I see all the files in a directory which are not symlinks?
[01:48] <cdo> ubushine ok sure
[01:48] <GnarusLeo> phreak97, as far as I know, its changed conserning wich application is set to use the filetype .. so I think its an app issue .. (NOT sure)
[01:48] <ubushine> sorry broadcast 192.168.0.255
[01:48] <shukhrat> Healot: Uzbekistan
[01:49] <shukhrat> Kirgistan
[01:49] <cdo> ubushine ok sure
[01:49] <LinuxNoob> stocksy, : My hero :D
[01:49] <nathanj> anyone know why this is happening? http://pastebin.com/628551
[01:49] <phreak97> GnarusLeo, it isnt
[01:49] <ompaul> kijun, it is strange that it does not pickup the network straight off, in the only case I ever had of that it was a faulty network card, try this move the network card to a different slot it _may_ help
[01:49] <shukhrat> Healot: Kirgistan
[01:49] <ubushine> cdo, is gateway 192.168.0.102 your router?
[01:49] <GnarusLeo> phreak97, in that case I dont know .. im a kde user myself
[01:49] <stocksy> LinuxNoob: np
[01:49] <phreak97> ok
[01:49] <cdo> ubushine the router is 192.168.0.1
[01:49] <GnarusLeo> phreak97, but that MUST be on google, dont you think?
[01:49] <kijun> ompaul: Oh~ yes... it might be
[01:49] <Healot> shukhrat: , off-topic yea :)
[01:49] <ompaul> kijun, if it does not then I would suggest replacing the ethernet card
[01:49] <ubushine> cdo, that's not what your gateway address is???
[01:49] <kijun> ompaul: hmm....
[01:50] <shukhrat> Healot: APAKHABAR do you khow what is it?
[01:50] <cdo> ubushine ah i made a blunder there .. leme fix it
[01:50] <doigmaonemobil> what is better, gnome or kde? discuss.
[01:50] <kijun> ompaul:  the problem is... I am using a laptop computer... so it is not that easy to replace the network card.
[01:50] <GnarusLeo> doigmaonemobil, very individual ... google ALL the gnome vs kde wars
[01:50] <shukhrat> Healot: i'am from Tajikistan
[01:50] <Healot> shukhrat i do... but that's off-topic though =)
[01:50] <ubushine> doigmaonemobil, ask Linus and get lost
[01:51] <kijun> oh~~ what;s going on here
[01:51] <ompaul> doigmaonemobil, that is a matter of opinion if you want to discuss that please move to #ubuntu-offtopic it is flame bait
[01:51] <shukhrat> Healot: :) got it
[01:51] <Healot> kijun can you state the network card model/brand? via using "lspci" or your mobo's manual :)
[01:51] <Assassin5> doigmaonemobil, neither, command prompt is best.
[01:51] <kijun> Healot: wait a minute....
[01:52] <kenas> how can i disable the USB device ?
[01:52] <Healot> shukhrat:  pm me if you wanna talk...
[01:52] <Frogzoo> Healot: Dapper's official release date is 1st June: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[01:52] <Healot> yes, 06/06
[01:52] <Healot> that's what I just said
[01:52] <ubushine> kenas, disable how do you mean?
[01:52] <Healot> sorry for the short date
[01:52] <Frogzoo> Healot: cool
[01:53] <Healot> kenas: , disabling the device or the whole controller itself?
[01:53] <kijun> Healot: 0000:00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01)
[01:53] <kijun> ....
[01:53] <kijun> 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]  (rev 74)
[01:53] <ubushine> cdo, you get it working yet. i gotta run soon
[01:53] <shukhrat> ok i have to go !
[01:53] <kenas> my problem is..
[01:53] <shukhrat> Healot: see you
[01:53] <kenas> i need to disable the devie so it caan work under VMware
[01:54] <shukhrat> Healot: see you friend
[01:54] <Healot> try "lspci -n -vv -m"
[01:54] <cdo> ubushine well ive changed the gateway to the router address its still not working eh
[01:54] <tortho> GnarusLeo: Thanks for the help and the Links. But I can see it is acctually loading the driver rt2500 1.1.0 at startup...
[01:54] <Healot> ok, see you later, shukhrat
[01:54] <kenas> the other way round its not a problem..
[01:54] <ubushine> cdo, did you /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[01:54] <Healot> hey kijun, apt-get the rt2500 driver, it's in the repos
[01:54] <cdo> ubushineh no let me do that
[01:55] <cdo> ubushine thanks its fine now
[01:55] <Healot> or you can compile the source using "rt2500-source" package, may the source be with you
[01:55] <ubushine> cdo, good
[01:55] <GnarusLeo> tortho, so back to basis, the ifconfig shows the card with no errors, and the rt2500 is in place .. but you cant dhcp the adress? while using wired nettwork, it does?
[01:55] <mrazster> damn this xchat app
[01:56] <kijun> Healot: OK, I will do it right now.
[01:56] <mrazster> is there anyway to make the "user list box" transparent to..??
[01:56] <tortho> GnarusLeo: I dont have any wired on this computer. It is a fresh install as well, and the driver does show up in the /var/logmessages file.
[01:56] <Healot> kijun: that would require, kernel-source, kernel headers and some other files... synaptic may solve that for you
[01:57] <GnarusLeo> tortho, try "sudo dhcpd restart"
[01:57] <kijun> Healot: I am working on it... Thank you for your help
[01:57] <GnarusLeo> tortho, no, nevermind :)
[01:57] <Healot> helping ubuntu users while actually using windows, haha, funny me
[01:58] <kijun> Healot:  I will reboot my system now... hopefully it does work. ^^
[01:58] <LinuxNoob> Can some1 give me the link to the firefox update 1.5 again. Didn't work here :(
[01:58] <GnarusLeo> tortho, also check this link http://nixdoc.net/files/forum/about60737.html&highlight=
[01:59] <Frogzoo> !tell LinuxNoob about ff1.5
[01:59] <GnarusLeo> !firefox1.5
[01:59] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:59] <thefish> whats the name of the upgrade manager app for breezy->dapper?
[01:59] <thefish> im sure i saw some x upgrade manager somewhere
[02:00] <Frogzoo> thefish: apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:00] <Frogzoo> !upgrade
[02:00] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:00] <thefish> no mate, there was a checker
[02:00] <ompaul> ping cafuego
[02:00] <thefish> i know how to do a dist-upgrade, thanks - i am looking for the pre-upgrade checker
[02:00] <pepsi> hi there
[02:01] <thefish> thats it in the bot message, cheers
[02:01] <thefish> and the url gives a 404 :'(
[02:01] <graveson> does anyone know of a good torrent application for ubuntu
[02:01] <Frogzoo> graveson: azureus is unbeatable
[02:02] <GnarusLeo> Cant wait to get my ipod, heard amarok is well suitable with ipod :)
[02:02] <ragunath> hi what does "turn off static compilation
[02:02] <ragunath> " in Makefile mean?
[02:02] <pepsi> is there a way to install without burning a CD? could i copy the ISO contents to a flash drive somehow? or use another ubuntu install CD to load the iso from a flash drive?
[02:02] <tortho> GnarusLeo: The last link does look quite similar to my setup / messages, except for 2 things. I don't use wpa/wep, and I dont have the nice words inet adr: xxx.xxx.xxx.xx :-)
[02:03] <bimberi> thefish: works ok here - linebreak issue?
[02:03] <Frogzoo> ragunath: I'm guessing somewhere in the makefile, there's a '-static' flag
[02:03] <GnarusLeo> tortho, with dhcp you should'nt need that ... :) then I hounestly dont know .. it would be better if you could wire it up to see if you can get dhcp with wired connection
[02:04] <Frogzoo> pepsi: this will much more difficult than finding a cd burner
[02:04] <_Rappy_> to search for a file in terminal, I can use "locate". anything else?
[02:04] <rafael> ucer
[02:04] <Healot> pepsi: you can make an ubuntu usbdisk, and later install using the ISO image by loading "iso image" udeb installer
[02:04] <Frogzoo> _Rappy_: find . -name 'regexp'
[02:04] <Healot> but I am not clear on how to do this...
[02:04] <rafael> reregtterr
[02:04] <d-o-b> I'm in the middle of a system update(downloading file 330 of 360+) and then my PC starts to Lag... bad lag! And its a Dual Core 2.8...
[02:04] <pepsi> Healot, aha.. okay.. see cause i saw that iso udeb thing
[02:05] <Healot> good
[02:05] <pepsi> i have no more blank media left and no money to buy more
[02:05] <pepsi> :)
[02:05] <thefish> bimberi: it was the trailing . - cheers
[02:05] <Healot> because I am not familiar with that actually
[02:05] <kenas> how can i disable a usb device ?
[02:05] <GnarusLeo> d-o-b, depends on what your downloading .. some downloads require compiling (wich takes a huge amount of cpu)
[02:05] <intelikey> pepsi maybe web install   search for knoppix install or net install on the web.  it can be done.  but unless you have lots of time to tinker, it's not worth it.
[02:05] <pepsi> blarg
[02:05] <tortho> GnarusLeo: Thanks for your help. I don't have any spare cards.. so.. I'll think I will uninstall it again. I have 2 other laptops, running over wireless to the same access point, and it works. This firmware thing... where is it stored, and where is it supposede to be?
[02:05] <Healot> d-o-b: GCC isn't optimized for duel core CPU yet
[02:06] <GnarusLeo> tortho, beats me :)
[02:06] <intelikey> kenas unplug it ?
[02:06] <Healot> try compilign with intel's compiler instead :)
[02:06] <bimberi> thefish: :)
[02:06] <kenas> yeah well..
[02:06] <kenas> but i need it pluged
[02:06] <d-o-b> Ah I see. But should it be like this: I can still move the mouse but its like doing great leaps (ala high frame skip)
[02:07] <d-o-b> When I try to click nothing responds.
[02:07] <intelikey> you need it plugged in, but you want the computer to not know it is plugged in..... kenas why ?
[02:07] <Healot> sure... it focusing on the dl...
[02:07] <sivo> irc.bonGster.de
[02:08] <Healot> renicing it would be okay... or risky... up to you
[02:08] <redguy> does anyone know where does bootlogd write its log?
[02:08] <kenas> because to use the usb under vmware it has to be disabled from the primary OS
[02:08] <thefish> is there a possibility to upgrade from an install CD?
[02:08] <GnarusLeo> red-tag, /var/log/
[02:08] <thefish> breezy -> dapper upgrade
[02:09] <intelikey> hmmm /etc/usb/ something  maybe kenas
[02:09] <Healot> kenas you can actually remove/disable the usb device in guest OS using VMware
[02:09] <Healot> read somemore of Vmware documentation
[02:09] <redguy> GnarusLeo: uhm, which file?
[02:10] <kenas> i need to add in guest operating system
[02:10] <redguy> GnarusLeo: ther is no /var/log/boot which is the default
[02:10] <kenas> not disablel it from there
[02:10] <redguy> :/
[02:10] <pepsi> aha
[02:10] <kenas> but yeah.. if i had to disable it in the guest operating system is not a problem
[02:10] <pepsi> a USB flash drive install will be perfect
[02:10] <pepsi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:10] <LinuxNoob> that firefox 1.5 page doesn't work. It still starts the 1.0.7 version
[02:10] <GnarusLeo> red-tag, /var/log/messages
[02:11] <Healot> what the hell are you trying to do anyways, kenas?
[02:11] <sfari> LinuxNoob, worked for me!
[02:11] <sfari> try again :)
[02:11] <LinuxNoob> sfar, : I've done it twice and still doesn't work
[02:11] <GnarusLeo> redguy, no sorry .. the dafult would be /var/log/boot ... try bootligd -l /var/log/boot
[02:11] <imc_> what's scrolkeeper-up and why is it burning up my cpu cycles?
[02:11] <sfari> LinuxNoob: got any errors when typing commands in the terminal?
[02:12] <ribbo> hi, does anyone know if there is a .torrent file for Dapper flight 5 ?
[02:12] <kenas> a usb telephone for skype
[02:12] <ribbo> When i try and download the file, I get redirected to the .iso
[02:12] <Healot> it's on the dl site, ribbo
[02:12] <kenas> running under windows..
[02:12] <LinuxNoob> sfar, : yeah folder something
[02:12] <kenas> if i plug it.. under ubuntu..
[02:12] <kenas> skype in windows does not detect it..
[02:13] <ribbo> Healot: as I said, I get redirected - wget starts downloading the .iso
[02:13] <Healot> kenas there is an option not to plug usb controller in guest OS using vmware
[02:13] <intelikey> this is correct for the local loop back  "ifconfig lo up 127.0.0.1 "   isn't it ?
[02:13] <redguy> GnarusLeo: hmm, no -l option in /etc/init.d/bootlog
[02:13] <Healot> ribbo: , click right on the link and save AS?
[02:13] <GnarusLeo> intelikey, yes
[02:13] <imc_> what's scrolkeeper-up and why is it burning up my cpu cycles?
[02:13] <intelikey> k
[02:13] <ribbo> same
[02:13] <ribbo> Healot: same result.
[02:14] <sfari> LinuxNoob, be sure that you are getting the _whole_ commands from the page.. some commands are split up on 2 lines in the page
[02:14] <GnarusLeo> redguy, really? I just man bootlogd ... and it said so ... remember: bootlogd not bootlog
[02:14] <Healot> you don;t have to disable usb controllers in Windows
[02:14] <kenas> yeah..
[02:14] <kenas> that is the default
[02:14] <intelikey> i added that to my init script for sshd, maybe now it will work when i start it.....
[02:14] <kenas> but i want for guest operating system to get the usb
[02:14] <Healot> kenas: , you need to work out on your VMware... btw, vmware isn't supported here :)
[02:15] <LinuxNoob> sfar, : I'll give it 1 more go and if that doesn't work the CP will be thrown out the window.... or the cat... not sure yet :D
[02:15] <sfari> LinuxNoob :)
[02:15] <puntitachico> wenas
[02:15] <Healot> just add the controller on the Guest OS... Keleksi
[02:15] <Healot> kenas
[02:15] <GnarusLeo> LinuxNoob, i would choose the cat
[02:15] <redguy> GnarusLeo: less /etc/init.d/bootlogd then. It is started almost immediately after init is started.
[02:16] <kenas> The specified device appears to be claimed by another driver (snd-usb-audio) on the host operating system which means that the device may be in use. To continue, the device will first be disconnected from its current driver.
[02:16] <sfari> LinuxNoob, for example "cp bookmarks.html cert8.db cookies.txt formhistory.dat key3.db signons.txt history.dat mimeTypes.rdf ~/Desktop/ffsettings" should be on 1 line.. not 2 as it is on the page
[02:16] <nocturn> Hi all
[02:16] <Godsey> is there a way to get the kernel to pause after kernel panic and not just reboot via grub?
[02:17] <nocturn> Does anyone know if it is possible to have Evolution save calendar entries in UTC time internally?
[02:17] <graveson> frogzoo:where can i get azureus from ?
[02:17] <GnarusLeo> redguy, aha ... you see it is by default given to /dev/null ... try changing that to a file
[02:17] <Godsey> I'm trying to setup Xen but it's having some sort of problem w/ my dm-mod/raid1 and it cycles too fast for me to scroll lock
[02:17] <Healot> Linus should be panicing if his kernel is panicing :)
[02:17] <ben42> what bittorrent-client are you recommending for breezy?
[02:17] <Angel_Dex> I need help I accedenty draged a pic onto my pannal and now my pannel is like all that pic
[02:17] <Angel_Dex> how doi go back to defualt
[02:17] <Frogzoo> ben42: azureus
[02:18] <GnarusLeo> redguy, sudo /sbins/bootlogd -l /var/log/boot
[02:18] <ben42> Frogzoo: but that is not in the repository, is it?
[02:18] <Frogzoo> !tell ben42 about azureus
[02:18] <GnarusLeo> redguy, and make sure you create a /var/log/boot of course
[02:18] <Frogzoo> Angel_Dex: right click -> properties -> background
[02:18] <ribbo> Healot: see: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11042
[02:19] <Healot> jsut get azureus from it's official site and get jre from Sun
[02:19] <redguy> GnarusLeo: so why run bootlogd in the first place if the logs are not saved anywhere??
[02:19] <Angel_Dex> Frogzoo many thanks
[02:19] <Frogzoo> Angel_Dex: yw
[02:19] <redguy> GnarusLeo: cat /etc/default/bootlogd explains everything
[02:19] <GnarusLeo> redguy, beats me ... its kinda stupid (it said in the log file that it was stored in the memory, have no idea what was ment by that ..)
[02:19] <ben42> Frogzoo: thanksn, but i asked ubotu already.... but i thought maybe there is a cause why it is not being in the repositiry
[02:19] <Frogzoo> ben42: good question - for which I have no answer
[02:20] <Healot> ribbo: use a bittorrent client!
[02:20] <GnarusLeo> redguy, haha!
[02:20] <Healot> not wget@
[02:20] <ben42> Frogzoo: thanks
[02:20] <redguy> GnarusLeo: I would like to understand why this is the default
[02:21] <LinuxNoob> sfar, : But thats only for the backup of bookmarks ? I havent got any
[02:21] <GnarusLeo> redguy, me too, but some (or most) ubuntu users dont actually care about logs and mans (as seen in this channel)
[02:21] <Healot> dl the torretnt file from browser... don;'t use "wget", ribbo
[02:22] <ribbo> Healot: can you try it form your end, please. I have tried via the browser .. also leads to .iso file
[02:22] <intelikey> some body test ssh connection for me ?
[02:22] <Healot> i got a torrent file
[02:22] <Healot> not redirected
[02:22] <GnarusLeo> intelikey, doesnt work
[02:22] <GnarusLeo> intelikey, never mind :) it did ..
[02:22] <ribbo> Healot: thanks, must be some issue on our side
[02:23] <sfari> LinuxNoob, okay i guess you can skip that step :)
[02:23] <Healot> ribo.... what browser are u using? Konqueror?
[02:23] <ribbo> firefox
[02:23] <sfari> but be sure to not skip any step you actually need to do
[02:23] <cilkay> Hello. Where did the Window menu go in Konqueror? I don't see it in Kubuntu 5.10 and I miss the ability to split the window terribly.
[02:24] <LinuxNoob> sfar, : ehm.... come here citty citty..... meeeow... damn didnt work
[02:24] <ribbo> Healot: trying epiphany now
[02:24] <Healot> cilkay: top left icon, on the titlebar
[02:24] <Healot> ribbo: use FF
[02:24] <nocturn> Does anyone know if it is possible to have Evolution save calendar entries in UTC time internally?
[02:24] <ribbo> highvoltage: can you get the .torrent file for flight 5?
[02:24] <nocturn> Or, is there anything to convert ical file to have UTC times inside?
[02:25] <apokryphos> cilkay: #kubuntu
[02:25] <highvoltage> ribbo: flight 5 specifically? flight6 would probably be available by tomorrow morning
[02:25] <cilkay> Healot: mine just has the "Show Navigation Panel" button.
[02:25] <highvoltage> ribbo: i would get that instead
[02:26] <Healot> cilkay: what window style are you using|?
[02:26] <cilkay> Healot: I see it in the "Configure Toolbars" dialog.
[02:26] <ribbo> highvoltage: just as a test, I get redirected to .iso file
[02:26] <ribbo> Healot: highvoltage and I work in the same office block
[02:27] <Healot> haha
[02:27] <IsilZha> hi
[02:27] <Otaku> hi, got a problem with amsn, my webcam isn't found, i'm using a ..logitech one (don't know precise specs)
[02:27] <Healot> cilkay: btw, what are you referring about? the window menu of what? the window? kde control panel?
[02:28] <cilkay> Healot: window menu in Konqueror
[02:28] <Healot> the titlebar menu or the window menu?
[02:28] <cilkay> Healot: it might have been removed in KDE 3.5.
[02:28] <cilkay> Healot: window menu
[02:28] <Healot> 3.5
[02:28] <Healot> haven't tried that yet
[02:28] <Healot> read more on the changelog... cilkay
[02:29] <GnarusLeo> Otaku, http://spca50x.sourceforge.net/
[02:29] <cilkay> It would be pretty stupid if they removed it. It's a useful feature.
[02:29] <Otaku> GnarusLeo, thx
[02:30] <GnarusLeo> yw
[02:30] <IsilZha> i have a problem right after installing ubuntu. it is when it first boots up of its own. then it will install some more packages. the issue now: while this seems to make progress there is a message posted to tty4 repetedly. it asks to answer yes or no. to bad though it is posted twice a second and i don't have a chance answering. as this makes the system hang on the long run (15 to 20 mins) it will never finish installing those packages due to lack of memo
[02:30] <IsilZha> ... my spelling again... sorry for that
[02:30] <nathanj> i have used the -g function with alltray however i can get it to move to the correct xy coord any ideas why?
[02:31] <GnarusLeo> IsilZha, I remember a friend of mine had that problem ... he got so sick of it and reinstalled the whole thing (never fixed it) I couldnt either
[02:31] <IsilZha> GnarusLeo: the thing is: it is my second time already
[02:31] <GnarusLeo> due to the same problem IsilZha ?
[02:32] <IsilZha> GnarusLeo: yes
[02:32] <LinuxNoob> how can i delete a folder with its content? rm ?
[02:32] <jeddy3> rm -r
[02:32] <GnarusLeo> LinuxNoob, rm -rf
[02:32] <jmartini> rm -r
[02:32] <jmartini> bah rm -rf
[02:32] <GnarusLeo> IsilZha, that sucks .. like I said, couldn never figure out why, sorry
[02:32] <jeddy3> =)
[02:32] <LinuxNoob> tnx
[02:32] <nathanj> any sucressfully got transpernt terms stuck to desktop without borders?
[02:33] <IsilZha> GnarusLeo: hmmm. is there a way to clear that console from maybe tty2? in this case the memory issue would be solved at least
[02:33] <cilkay> LinuxNoob: be very careful. Always specify absolute paths and watch for spaces.
[02:33] <apokryphos> nathanj: you can do that with e/aterm
[02:33] <iofreak> I'm having trouble running a shell script, keep getting 'command not found'
[02:33] <useruser> iofreak: ./scripname
[02:34] <GnarusLeo> IsilZha, wouldnt it still leack mem in the BG?
[02:34] <nathanj> apokryphos: howto?
[02:35] <IsilZha> GnarusLeo: i hope it's gone after the setup finished. it's more the physical memory that bothers me. it consumes 6gb like nothing this way...
[02:35] <orlando> hola
[02:35] <HElpMePlEase> hey
[02:35] <apokryphos> nathanj: Google.
[02:35] <HElpMePlEase> !HELP -=] 
[02:35] <HElpMePlEase> I have Ati Radeon X1300pro
[02:35] <phreak97> UGH
[02:35] <useruser> !ask
[02:35] <HElpMePlEase> and i can't start X
[02:36] <orlando> alguien hala espaol
[02:36] <phreak97> drawbacks of ubuntu are really starting to outwweigh the good things
[02:36] <nathanj> apokryphos: :o i just want a terminal stuck to my desktop and not able to come above other windows
[02:36] <sfari> !es
[02:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:36] <GnarusLeo> !tell HElpMePlEase about fglrx
[02:36] <apokryphos> nathanj: yup, just google -- I'm quite sure you can do all that.
[02:36] <phreak97> #kubuntu
[02:36] <phreak97> oops
[02:36] <iofreak> useruser: thanks!
[02:37] <nathanj> apokryphos: ;s
[02:38] <useruser> iofreak: np
[02:38] <IsilZha> or maybe if i paste that answer over? including a linebreak? might be that gets it the answer it searches for. though... i got no idea how to c&p in console...
[02:38] <chrisbudden14> Is anyone here having trouble starting the new network manager?
[02:38] <kuja> On some desktops, instead of the long "Applications | Places | Systems" applet, I see a simple Ubuntu icon. How's that done? Is that an actual menu?
[02:38] <kuja> (on the panel)
[02:39] <chrisbudden14> its the menu list you want to add as apposed to menu bar
[02:39] <sfari> rightclick an empty spot on the panel and click "add"
[02:39] <chrisbudden14> right click -> add to panel
[02:40] <kuja> Ah yes, I see now. Thank you :)
[02:40] <nathanj> apokryphos: no luck
[02:41] <apokryphos> nathanj: actually, I think it's even all in the man page
[02:41] <olive> Hello! Is there scheduled conference packs of Dapper ? It's about installparty and conference the 10th June, Paris
[02:41] <IsilZha> actually the setup asks me if i want to install the packages _anyway_ without mentioning what it was refering to. maybe it is related to the erorr it brings up about filesystems not being mounted properly (or something similar can't recall)? i asked it to mount ext3 and fat32. shouldn't be an issue?
[02:41] <GnarusLeo> when I type a program in console, how can I tell the terminal to put it in the background?
[02:42] <apokryphos> nathanj: though Google brings up *loads* of links with easy walkthroughs... not sure how you didn't have luck with those.
[02:42] <nathanj> apokryphos: what you searching :s
[02:42] <apokryphos> http://linuxreviews.org/software/x11-terms/aterm/         http://suseroot.com/suse-linux-tweaks/aterm.php          http://freebsdhowtos.com/70.html
[02:42] <IsilZha> 1.2gb left here btw. so if i'm out soon you know why ;)
[02:42] <LadyNikon> ew suse
[02:43] <apokryphos> LadyNikon: what's bad about suse?
[02:43] <nathanj> apokryphos: thats not what im looking for i wnt it "stuck" to my desktop
[02:43] <LadyNikon> for one it didnt like my laptop
[02:43] <bb1013> Help! After ntfs resize, winxp doesn't use the extra free space. Any ideas?
[02:43] <LinuxNoob> sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz      This don't work. Whats the correct command?
[02:43] <LadyNikon> i kept getting some hardware error that I have never had with any other OS
[02:44] <Hexidigital> bb1013, that should be asked in a windows channel, not linux
[02:44] <bb1013> I used linux to do it.
[02:44] <apokryphos> nathanj: that's not all you said. You said borderless etc.. but anyhow, it being "stuck" to the desktop is an issue of the window manager. On KDE you can just alt+f3 on a window and set that from there
[02:44] <apokryphos> perhaps something similar on gnome
[02:44] <sfari> LinuxNoob, whats the error msg?
[02:44] <LadyNikon> bb1013: did you go into windows and format it?
[02:44] <nathanj> apokryphos: yeah i basically want console text on my desktop
[02:44] <apokryphos> LadyNikon: interesting; in general I found that suse had better laptop support than any other, but hey.
[02:45] <bb1013> No, it's windows C with xp on it.
[02:45] <LadyNikon> apokryphos: ubuntu worked right away.
[02:45] <apokryphos> nathanj: well that guide describes how to make it transparent and borderless
[02:45] <LadyNikon> bb1013: dunno what that is.
[02:45] <LadyNikon> bb1013: dunno what that
[02:45] <nathanj> apokryphos: yeah the question is pinning it :D
[02:45] <Hexidigital> bb1013, you didn't ERASE the partition, did you?
[02:45] <overrider> is there anything decent in the rss reader / podcast/videopodcast software section?
[02:45] <LadyNikon> shower time
[02:46] <LadyNikon> see everyone at work.
[02:46] <Hexidigital> enjoy
[02:46] <bb1013> Resized /dev/hda1 (windows xp ntfs) from 1.6GB to 2.6GB. Now XP says C is 2.6GB but the capacity is still max 1.6GB
[02:46] <apokryphos> nathanj: which is handled by the window manager, as I said. Not running gnome so can't check for sure, but perhaps try clicking the icon on the very top-left of the window (normally  next to File, Edit etc)
[02:46] <onkarshinde> overrider: I found Blam good for RSS. Don't know about podcasts.
[02:46] <nathanj> apokryphos: i got the terminal up and running but i cant position it correctly for some reason i set the geomotery but i doesnt comply
[02:47] <Hexidigital> bb1013, i dont know... i would suggest partition magic or something... maybe that would help you
[02:47] <nathanj> is there a key combo to move windows?
[02:47] <bb1013> Ok, tried running chkdsk /F, but it doesn't detect the extra space
[02:47] <Hexidigital> alt+f7
[02:47] <onkarshinde> nathanj: I guess Alt+F7
[02:48] <LinuxNoob> sfar,
[02:48] <nathanj> onkarshinde: problem is xwininfo seems to be reporting wrong location.
[02:48] <bb1013> I thought winxp would be happy on 1.6GB, but nooo - it has to have more and more...
[02:48] <LinuxNoob> sfari,: read private msg
[02:49] <sfari> LinuxNoob, i did not get any :) You cant send private messages unless you are registered
[02:49] <Hexidigital> bb1013, windows is never happy
[02:49] <LadyNikon> heh
[02:49] <sfari> if its 3 lines or less, paste here.. more than 3 lines use pastebin (!paste)
[02:49] <kleinlappies> hi
[02:50] <Hexidigital> bb1013, windows Vista minimum requirements for full "thrill" is a 256MB video card AGP8x (so i read)
[02:50] <bb1013> shouldn't have installed it. Had win98 until most games wanted 2000 or xp - like Oblivion and thief3
[02:50] <bb1013> dual booting ubuntu/win98
[02:50] <LinuxNoob> !paste
[02:50] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:50] <kleinlappies> i have this old computer with ubuntu and kde on it it has 256mb of ram in it, is this ok or not?
[02:51] <Hexidigital> kleinlappies... should be fine... what are you using it for?
[02:51] <LinuxNoob> sfari: its pasted
[02:52] <LinuxNoob> sfari,  I get it when using: sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz
[02:52] <kleinlappies> man i want to make it my multimedia pc at home of checking my movies on my pc and for listening to my music.
[02:53] <zaibiechu> is there a word recognize soft under linux
[02:53] <onkarshinde> kleinlappies: 256 MB RAM is fine.
[02:53] <sfari> LinuxNoob: url? :)
[02:53] <useruser> kleinlappies: you want ot make sure you have a reasonable and supported video card, though
[02:54] <kleinlappies> thanks guys
[02:54] <kleinlappies> well i have a geforce 9800 128mb card
[02:54] <IdleOne> !tell LinuxNoob about ff1.5
[02:54] <useruser> zaibiechu: you mean a program that can open MS Word files? Openoffice.
[02:54] <bb1013> Ok, got something. Enlargement of ntfs partitions has to be done in two steps. cfdisk + ntfsresize should do the trick. Thanks for the advice.
[02:55] <sfari> LinuxNoob, paste it in #flood .. i'll go there now
[02:55] <Hexidigital> bb1013, let us know how it works
[02:55] <LinuxNoob> sfari: I made it work
[02:55] <sfari> \o/ :)
[02:55] <LinuxNoob> tnx anyway
[02:55] <zaibiechu> useruser, no from jpeg to txt
[02:55] <mirsh> i want to use a directory on one of my extra harddrives as /home. i've mounted /dev/hdd to /mnt/hdd - how can i use /mnt/hdd/home as /home?
[02:55] <kleinlappies> to load dyndns on a linux machine, how do i do it?
[02:55] <Hexidigital> jpeg to txt?
[02:56] <useruser> zaibiechu: ah. you could try gocr
[02:56] <Frogzoo> mirsh: just mount it on /home
[02:56] <zaibiechu> useruser, does that support chinese
[02:56] <useruser> zaibiechu: no idea.
[02:57] <kleinlappies> useruser i put on the nvidia drivers and it works now i just need to do the tv-out thing. is i a mission or is i quite easy?
[02:57] <useruser> kleinlappies: should be easy, i think
[02:57] <useruser> kleinlappies: i don't know how to do it, though :)
[02:57] <kleinlappies> useruser thanks will go and look around ;)
[02:58] <mirsh> Frogzoo: yea, but i cant mount /mnt/hdd/home - "mount: /mnt/hdd/home is not a block device"
[02:58] <Fassa> hello?
[02:58] <ifr> Hello
[02:59] <zaibiechu> useruser, is there a gui soft for ocr?
[02:59] <onkarshinde> mirsh: Instead of mounting /mnt/hdd/home to /home, directly mount that device to your /home
[02:59] <ifr> Prolly a good idea to state your problem and ask a question, Fassa
[02:59] <LinuxNoob> Well did the FirefoxNewVersion tutorial now without getting error messages.... but doesnt install the 1.5... I give up... tnx anyway guys
[02:59] <Fassa> quick question what would yall reccomend to burn movies to dvd im used to using nerovision and since im total linux now i cant use it
[02:59] <_jason> LinuxNoob: close all firefox and run /opt/firefox/firefox in a terminal
[03:00] <nathanj> <does anyone know how to fixate a terminal to your desktop?
[03:00] <ifr> Fassa K3b?
[03:00] <ifr> nathanj, what's fixate mean?
[03:00] <Fassa> K3B wont burn avi to dvd in the proper format
[03:00] <IsilZha> hi once more
[03:00] <Fassa> tried alread y lol
[03:00] <ifr> Bummer, Fassa, sorry
[03:00] <mirsh> onkarshinde: i guess i could do that, but i used /mnt/hdd/home as /home before (just forgot how i did it). well, thanks, i'll do it the easy way :)
[03:00] <useruser> Fassa: you mean to create regular dvds that can be played in a dvd player?
[03:00] <nathanj> ifr: like make it look like the text is just on your desktop so it cant move, eg for running a irssi session or reading logs
[03:00] <Fassa> yes useruser
[03:01] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  *doh* why doesnt it start as default browser?
[03:01] <_jason> LinuxNoob: ok now type 'which firefox'
[03:01] <ifr> Oh, I see nathanj. That would be cool, almost like setting the terminal as the background to the screen?
[03:01] <nathanj> ifr: yeah :)
[03:01] <HelpMePlease> i asked 5 minutes ago about Ati..
[03:01] <HelpMePlease> some guy give me some link
[03:01] <IsilZha> is there a browser preinstalled capable of textmode? since... i can't install anything as apt is blocked by something i explained earlier. with that though i have no chance to search a solution for my problem
[03:02] <HelpMePlease> i did everything buy i still dont have X
[03:02] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  /usr/bin/firefox
[03:02] <HelpMePlease> !helo
[03:02] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HelpMePlease
[03:02] <ifr> If you want a real terminal you can just hit ALT+CTRL+F[1-6 or 8-9] , hit ALT+CTRL+F7 to return to Gnome. But that's not what you want
[03:02] <ifr> Wow. SOunds like it could be useful nathanj.
[03:02] <_jason> LinuxNoob: you seem to have missed the dpkg-divert command followed by an ln -s command.  Do you see them on the wiki page?
[03:02] <HelpMePlease> !help
[03:02] <ifr> By the way nathanj have you tried multitail?
[03:02] <useruser> Fassa: do you have an iso image?
[03:02] <nathanj> ifr: yeah i got it to a point where i can create the terminal but not make it stay :)
[03:03] <Fassa> nope they are .avi's
[03:03] <nathanj> ifr: thats the plane
[03:03] <nathanj> plan
[03:03] <ifr> Sorry, wish I could help more.
[03:03] <LinuxNoob> _jason, : Yes, i'll try it again
[03:03] <HelpMePlease> Someone please help I'm Trying to install my ATi Radeon X1300pro
[03:03] <Godsey> I think I have a bug in my mkinitrd script
[03:03] <sniz> hi
[03:03] <sniz> HELLO FROM BELARUS
[03:04] <useruser> Fassa: dunno then, sorry. you somehow need to convert the movies into the correct format for dvd players and burn that, but i'm not sure how to do that
[03:04] <IsilZha> anybody please? i have limited time as this "issue" fills up my disk pretty fast :/
[03:04] <onkarshinde> Fassa: dvdauthor will make DVD ISO from mpeg2 stream. Not sure if it will work with .avi
[03:04] <Cubies> Fills up your disk?
[03:04] <NicePics> Yes! ntfsresize enlarged the file system to the full partition size. It worked perfectly.
[03:04] <Cubies> Get a bigger disk.
[03:04] <Fassa> useruser: ok thanks for the help anyway it is appreciated
[03:04] <useruser> Fassa: ah, ok. and you can convert .avi to mpeg2 with mencoder
[03:04] <_jason> !ru
[03:04] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[03:04] <IsilZha> Cubies: yes sure... very funny.
[03:04] <sniz> okok
[03:04] <sniz> ^)
[03:04] <sniz> :)
[03:04] <useruser> Fassa: although it's got a cryptic command-line interface
[03:04] <HelpMePlease> SOMEONE BULGARIAN ?
[03:04] <ptlo> IsilZha: lynx, w3m, links, wget (commandline)
[03:05] <nathanj> ifr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TransparentTerminals but i cant get it to position itself correctly
[03:05] <IsilZha> ptlo: thank you!
[03:05] <LinuxNoob> _jason, : Ok did it, and type firefox.... still runs the old version
[03:05] <Fassa> onkarshinde: ive tried dvd author and it always locks up on me lol
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> anyone know of a way to do apt-get upgrades w/o it restarting services? ie. I don't want it to restart the cups in my chroot and take over my primary cups when I update my chroot environment.
[03:05] <_jason> LinuxNoob: you did `` sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox'' ?
[03:06] <Godsey> is there a way to force a package to reinstall?
[03:06] <ifr> Checking...
[03:06] <useruser> Fassa: this looks pretty nice.. http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=242455
[03:06] <Fassa> useruser : ok thanks will have a look now
[03:06] <nathanj> ifr: you running breezy?
[03:07] <ifr> Yes nathanj, breezy on this machine, dapper Flight 5 on a couple others.
[03:07] <LinuxNoob> _jason, : yes
[03:07] <IsilZha> ptlo: seems lynx and links are not there actually.
[03:07] <HelpMePlease> Help i can't startx on my ubunto my videocard is ATi Radeon x1300pri
[03:07] <HelpMePlease> *pro
[03:07] <ifr> That looks VERY cool. I am actually aboard a train at the moment so my internet connection isn't so fast but I would like to check this out
[03:08] <nathanj> ifr: want to see if you can get it working with breezy
[03:08] <Cubies> !captainco 04-missy_elliot-work_it-evighet.mp3
[03:08] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cubies
[03:09] <sniz> SUKI
[03:09] <_jason> LinuxNoob: do you mind pastebinning what you did and the output?  as well as 'readlink -f $(which firefox)' ?
[03:09] <nick|here> i have just installed ubuntu, then tried to boot, but grub gives me error 15?
[03:09] <ifr> nathanj, I'll get it going in the next couple of days and we can meet again here? I'm on pretty much every day.
[03:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell LinuxNoob about pastebin
[03:10] <nathanj> ifr: ok
[03:10] <Cubies> !Catalyst Missy_Elliott_-_So_Addictive_-_05_-_Get_Ur_Freak_On.mp3
[03:10] <ubotu> Cubies: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:10] <nathanj> ifr: dont do the second one just the first the other is too complex and not really useful
[03:10] <onkarshinde> nick|here: is there any more info?
[03:10] <Cubies> !Catalyst Missy_Elliott_-_Supa_Dupa_Fly_-_04_-_The_Rain_.mp3
[03:10] <ubotu> Cubies: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:10] <HelpMePlease> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:10] <HelpMePlease> 10x for d help guys
[03:11] <nick|here> onkarshinde: nothing.system tries to boot. Grub Stage 1.5 Loading. then a Error 15 output
[03:11] <_jason> HelpMePlease: try vesa as the driver
[03:11] <LinuxNoob> _jason, : its in the pastebin
[03:11] <HelpMePlease> _jason: vesa ?
[03:11] <kleinlappies> what are some of the 101 ways to speedup kde
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> HelpMePlease: did it ever work?
[03:12] <HelpMePlease> no
[03:12] <HelpMePlease> never
[03:12] <_jason> LinuxNoob: what does 'which firefox' say now?
[03:12] <HelpMePlease> i tryed everithing
[03:12] <prudhvi> i got a strange Problem. i installed Debian Sarge and then, when ever i start any deamon i get " Fake Start-stop demon called doing nothing" ? what is that?
[03:12] <HelpMePlease> i didn't sleep all night..
[03:12] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  /usr/bin/firefox
[03:13] <_jason> LinuxNoob: and did you do `` sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox'' ?
[03:13] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  ln: `/usr/bin/firefox': File exists
[03:13] <_jason> HelpMePlease: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose vesa.  That should get you X and let you search the wiki/forums for what other users with radeon do
[03:14] <HelpMePlease> change ati to vesa ?
[03:14] <_jason> HelpMePlease: yeah
[03:15] <_jason> LinuxNoob: 'ls /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu' what does that say?
[03:16] <ifr> nathanj, okay. Thanks for turnin me on to this it looks very cool
[03:16] <LinuxNoob> _jason, ls: /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu: No such file or directory
[03:17] <_jason> LinuxNoob: give me a sec to read man dpkg-divert, I want to do this the right way
[03:17] <root_> wow
[03:17] <HelpMePlease1> That worked
[03:17] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  Tnx mate
[03:17] <nathanj> ifr: :)
[03:17] <HelpMePlease1> now i'm with gnome
[03:17] <HelpMePlease1> -=] 
[03:17] <nathanj> ifr: ill have to use it and just move the window for now :D
[03:17] <Nogimics> Can someone recommend a good newsgroup Reader that supports .nzb's for ubuntu please
[03:18] <HelpMePlease1> who told me to change to vesa?
[03:18] <HelpMePlease1> and can u give me the links for the forums ?
[03:18] <_jason> LinuxNoob: dpkg-divert --list '*firefox*', pastebin if it's more than 2 lines
[03:19] <_jason> HelpMePlease: wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org
[03:19] <HelpMePlease> k
[03:19] <HelpMePlease> 10x
[03:19] <sad> how do i install .deb files?
[03:19] <_jason> !deb
[03:19] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:19] <vini> hi, how can I configure my video? Now is "vesa" but it's slow
[03:19] <_jason> vini: what video card do you have?
[03:19] <nathanj> anyone usin alltray?
[03:20] <HelpMePlease> reboot
[03:20] <HelpMePlease> 00ps
[03:20] <vini> _jason: i don't know, maybe "Savage"
[03:20] <_jason> vini: is that ati or nvidia?
[03:20] <nathanj> ifr: i got it :D
[03:21] <_jason> or ``other''?
[03:21] <vini> _jason: other :P
[03:21] <vini> _jason: onboard
[03:21] <sad> how do i install tar.gz files?
[03:22] <sad> how do i install tar.gz files?
[03:22] <_jason> sad: read the README inside on how to compile it.  It is usualyl best to get software from the repositories.  What are you trying to install?
[03:22] <LinuxNoob> _jason, pastbin :D
[03:23] <_jason> vini: don't know what you need to do for that card, wait a few minutes and then try asking again or search wiki.ubuntu.com and/or ubuntuforums.org
[03:23] <vini> _jason: thanks
[03:24] <_jason> LinuxNoob: it's usually easier if you just give the url to your paste, but I got it
[03:24] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11045
[03:24] <Godsey> how is the initrd auto created?
[03:24] <Godsey> when I run mkinitrd, I get something trying to use devfs
[03:25] <Godsey> the /boot/initrd I get is a cpio archive not using devfs
[03:25] <_jason> LinuxNoob: what does `` sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/bin/firefox'' do?
[03:26] <LinuxNoob> No diversion `any diversion of /usr/bin/firefox', none removed
[03:26] <_jason> it just said you had a diversion... hrmm
[03:26] <LinuxJones> Morning everybody !
[03:26] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  hehe
[03:28] <nathanj> wheres "man X"
[03:28] <nathanj> doesnt exsits
[03:31] <_jason> nathanj: xorg-common: /usr/X11R6/man/man7/X.7x.gz, should give you man X
[03:32] <_jason> LinuxNoob: heh I see what happened
[03:32] <_jason> LinuxNoob: you typed 'user' instead of 'usr' when you diverted
[03:32] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  oh?
[03:33] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  so how do I fix it?
[03:33] <_jason> LinuxNoob: what does `` sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /user/bin/firefox'' do?
[03:33] <LinuxNoob> _jason, Removing `local diversion of /user/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu'
[03:34] <_jason> LinuxNoob: what does `` sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /user/bin/mozilla-firefox'' do?
[03:34] <nathanj> how can i run alltray -x -st -g +6+646 "gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=TT --geometry=159x25" everytime i log into gnome the startup sessions thingo stripes the ""
[03:34] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  Removing `local diversion of /user/bin/mozilla-firefox to /user/bin/mozilla-firefox-ubuntu'
[03:34] <_jason> LinuxNoob: now ' sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox'
[03:35] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  ok and after that?
[03:35] <_jason> LinuxNoob:  sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[03:35] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  ok and?
[03:35] <_jason> LinuxNoob: now close all firefox and try 'firefox'
[03:36] <nsmith> hello
[03:36] <nsmith> ?
[03:36] <Mr_Incredible> hi everyone! i got a gnome/mesa/ati problem. when starting xterm only (without gnome) and doing a "glxinfo | grep direct" i have direct rendering on - so, my xorg.conf and ati drivers are running - and no mesa. when i log on with gnome, i get direct rendering no, and mesa is my opengl lib - i dont want mesa, i want direct rendering. any idea ?
[03:36] <sfari> nsmith, sorry i dont know the answer to that
[03:37] <nsmith> I am a new ubuntu user and am downloading the W32 codecs does anyone know how big that file is?
[03:37] <IdleOne> !info w32codecs
[03:37] <_jason> nsmith: ~13mb
[03:37] <gnomefreak> its like 30mb isnt it
[03:37] <LinuxNoob> _jason,  tnx
[03:37] <gnomefreak> oops yeah 13ish
[03:37] <nsmith> thanks
[03:38] <BludY> Hello
[03:38] <sfari> nsmith: 13228654 bytes
[03:38] <nsmith> I also cannot play MP3 s.  Will this codecs take care of that problem?
[03:38] <nsmith> thanks sfari
[03:38] <sfari> !mp3
[03:38] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:38] <gnomefreak> nsmith: no
[03:39] <_jason> nsmith: no, they won't.  See what ubotu said ^
[03:39] <gnomefreak> ^^^ that will though ;)
[03:39] <Mr_Incredible> noone got an idea, how to get rid of mesa ? i cant just apt-get remove it, cause of the depenecies
[03:39] <nsmith> I read the restricted formats and tried copying mp3 restricted format into the terminal but it will not allow me
[03:39] <IronBlood> can anyone help me ... i ve got an audio problem ...sound is coming like distorted ...ubuntu 5.10 AC'97
[03:40] <nsmith> it gives me an error
[03:40] <_jason> nsmith: paste the command you used and the error
[03:40] <geargolem> help!  I am without my x display!
[03:40] <gnomefreak> nsmith: you need to enable whatever repos it says to first
[03:40] <nsmith> give me one second
[03:40] <_jason> nsmith: if it is small.  If it is big, put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link
[03:40] <geargolem> I used a Dapper repository and now my PCMCIA won't work
[03:40] <_jason> !dapper
[03:40] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:40] <gnomefreak> geargolem: are you using breezy with dapper repos?
[03:40] <geargolem> yes
[03:41] <gnomefreak> thats very very bad
[03:41] <geargolem> tell me about it
[03:41] <stratty-> :O
[03:41] <stratty-> omg
[03:41] <gnomefreak> geargolem: what does uname -r say
[03:41] <stratty-> many people
[03:41] <geargolem> I will have to disconnect to find out.
[03:41] <geargolem> brb
[03:41] <nsmith> Reading package lists... Done
[03:41] <nsmith> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:41] <nsmith> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:41] <nsmith> nsmith@ubuntu:~$
[03:42] <_jason> nsmith: did you enable universe?
[03:42] <nsmith> sorry do not know what universe is
[03:42] <sfari> !repos
[03:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:42] <nsmith> I am still verry knew to linux and ubuntu
[03:42] <_jason> nsmith: the restricted formats page should have explained it in the mp3 section, but just see what ubotu said above
[03:42] <stratty-> can i setup ubuntu to dual boot?
[03:42] <graveson> !eassource
[03:42] <ubotu> graveson: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:42] <sfari> yes stratty-
[03:43] <sfari> !dualboot
[03:43] <ubotu> somebody said dualboot was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[03:43] <stratty-> nice
[03:43] <geargolem> it says $ 2.6.12-10-386
[03:43] <stratty-> you rock man!!!
[03:43] <geargolem> gnomefreak:
[03:43] <sfari> i hope it helps :)
[03:43] <smartass> I have a problem.. I don understand how to install programs? When I have download it how do I make the installation?
[03:43] <smartass> (Beginner of Linux)
[03:43] <_jason> smartass: you should use synaptic to install things
[03:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell smartass about synaptic
[03:44] <gnomefreak> geargolem: ok heres you choices you can either reinstall breezy or you can upgrade to dapper what one would you like to do (mind you dapper is still in aplha stages and may break)
[03:44] <geargolem> upgrade
[03:44] <smartass> synaptic?
[03:44] <sfari> system -> administration -> synaptic
[03:44] <smartass> thanks
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ok geargolem the link that follows the second one i need you to follow that ok
[03:45] <sfari> (its like apt-get with a gui :)
[03:45] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[03:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[03:45] <IronBlood> how can i configure my sound settings
[03:46] <gnomefreak> geargolem: im also gonna suggest removing all breezy repos and just keep dapper ones if you have all the dapper repos
[03:46] <geargolem> gnomefreak: ok i will when I upgrade.  How do I follow the link without a display?
[03:46] <gnomefreak> geargolem: you have no X thats right :(
[03:47] <geargolem> gnomefreak: yea
[03:47] <sfari> apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:47] <gnomefreak> ok heres what we can do
[03:47] <gen> hello
[03:47] <sfari> hello gen
[03:47] <nsmith> ok thanks I will see how this works
[03:47] <gnomefreak> open you /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure all you have in there is the dapper repos
[03:48] <kleinlappies> can anyone tell me how to play 2 sounds at once?
[03:48] <geargolem> gnomefreak: ok
[03:48] <gnomefreak> geargolem: let me know when your done
[03:48] <sfari> ubotu, tell kleinlappies about sound
[03:48] <geargolem> gnomefreak: will do immediately.  Thankyou
[03:48] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:48] <kleinlappies> sfari thanks
[03:49] <sfari> i think it is mentioned in one of those pages :)
[03:49] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: i think you have to use esd for multi sounds
[03:50] <lilon> 
[03:50] <gnomefreak> whois lilon
[03:50] <gnomefreak> lilon: do you speak english?
[03:51] <geargolem> gnomefreak: I can't gedit sources.list without display
[03:51] <gnomefreak> geargolem: your right you dont have gnome you need to use nano
[03:51] <overrider> lilon nu hui shuo ying wen ma?
[03:51] <A10n> hey guys
[03:51] <A10n> for some reason my /var/apt/lists are dissapearing
[03:51] <geargolem> gnomefreak: ok, is it safe to assume it works like gedit?
[03:51] <smartass> How do I make the microphone work? I have plugged in the mic into the right "hole" and cheked the soundoptions but still it dosnt work
[03:51] <gnomefreak> geargolem: not really
[03:52] <geargolem> gnomefreak: I'll man page it
[03:52] <A10n> any one know any reason why the lists in /var/apt/lists are getting deleted on a daily bases? security issue ?
[03:52] <geargolem> brb
[03:52] <arrick> Is there a way to access all the messages you have given in this chat room in like the last 4 days?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> geargolem: it will open as gedit would but you need to use the commands at bottom to write ir (save it) and exit i think ctrl+w will save it and ctrl+x will exit it
[03:52] <zoexii> hello, I need to put a date stamp in a filename within a shell script.  how do I do this?
[03:52] <londonboi2k3> Hi everyone, since we moved our pcs at work over to ubuntu, I was now woundring if there was a pice of GPL software that would allow me to create my staff rotas on that could be web/intranet based, have searched but can seem to only find windows stuff, Any Ideas??
[03:53] <Han> hi, I got this message while installing packages: perl: Depends: perl-base (= 5.8.7-5ubuntu1) but 5.8.7-5ubuntu1.2 is to be installed; is this a temporary error?
[03:53] <arrick> A10n, they get deleted cause they are variables
[03:53] <zoexii> gnomefreak, contol o is save
[03:53] <gnomefreak> zoexii: ty
[03:53] <A10n> arrick, my apt-lists are variables?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> many vim is ctrl+w?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> maybe*
[03:53] <LinuxJones> londonboi2k3: what is a rotas ?
[03:53] <gen> arrick : have you activated the log in the preferences ?
[03:53] <A10n> i thought they stay on my puter and i just keep up updating them with apt-get update
[03:54] <arrick> /var/apt/lists is a variable folder
[03:54] <arrick> hence the var
[03:54] <londonboi2k3> LinuxJones its a rota is what you use to set shifts for staff, so everyone knows what time they start work and finish work
[03:54] <arrick> nope
[03:54] <A10n> arrick, i dont know what that means, so everythign is temporary?
[03:54] <arrick> how
[03:54] <arrick> yeah
[03:55] <A10n> i see...
[03:55] <sfari> what would you prefer in a AMD 750MHZ... 256*133mhz ram, or 512*100mhz ram?
[03:55] <LinuxJones> londonboi2k3: oh, you could use openoffice to create a database and have users open the file from a network share. Let me find you an example.
[03:55] <zoexii> Hello, I need to know how to put a date stamp in a filename!
[03:55] <arrick> 133 anll the way
[03:56] <kleinlappies> gnomefreak and if i run kde on ubuntu?
[03:56] <arrick> sfari, The 133 is the speed of the frontside BUS, which is the bottleneck no matter how much ram you have
[03:57] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: you can run kde on ubuntu if you like
[03:57] <arrick> sfari, you have to check to see which ic compatible with your motherboard and processor as well, or you might not even get a boot
[03:58] <kleinlappies> gnomefreak am i then using kdearts or must i still use esd
[03:58] <nathanj> how do i put a trash icon on my desktop
[03:58] <_jason> !desktoptrash
[03:58] <ubotu> desktoptrash is, like, applications menu-> system tools-> configuration editor: /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible
[03:58] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: that i dont know
[03:58] <nathanj> _jason: ta
[03:58] <nathanj> _jason: from neverside?
[03:59] <_jason> nathanj: ?
[03:59] <nathanj> .com?
[03:59] <geniusvicks> how do I add songs to a particular folder in a rewritable CD ?
[03:59] <_jason> nathanj: nope
[03:59] <kleinlappies> gnomefreak thanks gonna go and check if i can c which im using
[04:00] <nathanj> i dont have "config edit"
[04:00] <Narada> Is there php 5.1.2 yet?
[04:00] <gen> zoexii, did you find out?
[04:00] <_jason> nathanj: are you using breezy?
[04:00] <nathanj> _jason: hrmm no dapper sorry :)
[04:00] <_jason> nathanj: run gconf-editor from a terminal
[04:00] <Frogzoo> suggestions for how to view a .chm file? (windows help file format)
[04:00] <Narada> What version of PHP latest does the ubuntu tree have?
[04:01] <gen> zoexii, look around the var "  $(date)   "  to do that in bash scripting.
[04:01] <_jason> !info php5
[04:01] <ubotu> php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB
[04:01] <sethk> geniusvicks, they are only rewritable as a unit.  You have to copy the files to disk,  add your files, and thenwrite the new image
[04:01] <geniusvicks> Ic
[04:01] <Narada> lol ubotu
[04:01] <Narada> good one
[04:01] <geargolem> gnomefreak: successfully updated 'sources.list'
[04:01] <sethk> geniusvicks, there is another spec that allows something more like what you are asking, but it's  much better to do it the normal way
[04:01] <Frogzoo> !tell Narada about ubotu
[04:02] <geniusvicks> sethk: Thank you
[04:02] <gnomefreak> geargolem: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:02] <marcin_> hello
[04:02] <geargolem> gnomefreak: ok, brb
[04:02] <geniusvicks> How do I change my password for the nickname in freenode?
[04:02] <Nestquick> hi
[04:02] <winexxx> hi
[04:03] <Nestquick> is there an frensh channel for ubuntu ?
[04:03] <Narada> Frogzoo: heh yeah i know it's a bot; i just found the name hilarious and ingenious
[04:03] <LoCusF> !fr
[04:03] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:03] <gen> zoexii, for exemple, use $(date +%Y/%m/%d)
[04:03] <trappist> Nestquick: #ubuntu-fr
[04:03] <Nestquick> thanks a lot
[04:04] <Nestquick> by all, thanks
[04:04] <geniusvicks> delete geniusvicks
[04:05] !lilo:*! There may be some old clonebot/spambot reconnects in a moment. Please bear with us.
[04:05] <geniusvicks> how do I unregister or change my password
[04:06] <chamo>  /msg nickserv link geniium 5009
[04:06] <chamo> ooO
[04:07] <geniusvicks> change password
[04:07] <marcin_> sorry about my english . Can somebody help me with instalation of gd2 ?
[04:09] <ubuntu> can someone please tell me the password for the ubuntu WM appliance
[04:09] <A10n> thanks for the help guys
[04:10] <axisys> should i be able to use a minolta color driver 2430 to print on a black and white minolta 350?
[04:10] <axisys> ubuntu: sudo -s
[04:10] <axisys> put your password
[04:10] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[04:11] <axisys> now u r root
[04:11] <axisys> now if u like to change/unlock root password (not recommended) you just run passwd root
[04:12] <ubuntu> I understand, thank you very much.
[04:12] <nathanj> how do i  bind <windowskey><d> to desktop? everytime i hit windows key it wont let me hit the second key
[04:13] <chamo> nathanj, I have the same problem. I think its a bug.
[04:13] <geniusvicks> How do I change the ownership of /media/hda4
[04:13] <th0rndike> hi ppl :p
[04:13] <geniusvicks> I keep getting errors
[04:13] <chamo> geniusvicks, use chown
[04:13] <th0rndike> or UID
[04:14] <nathanj> chamo: probably can manually edit a text file give me a sec
[04:14] <LinuxJones> geniusvicks: you mean all files on the partition ?
[04:14] <nickrud> geniusvicks, what partition type is geniusvicks
[04:14] <gridblock> hey
[04:14] <Frogzoo> geniusvicks: sudo chown
[04:14] <nickrud> gergle, geniusvicks ntfs or what :)
[04:15] <th0rndike> guys im programming some concurrent thing in java... however when i compile it says it doesnt have java.util.concurrent.Locks... any package i need to install?
[04:15] <axisys> is there an irc chnl where i can get some help on linux printing?
[04:16] <nathanj> where are keyboard shortcuts stored?
[04:16] <arrick> !printing
[04:16] <ubotu> from memory, printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[04:16] <axisys> i did not find minolta 350 driver anywhere
[04:16] <axisys> arrick: that site did not have the driver
[04:16] <geniusvicks> the partition is vfat
[04:16] <arrick> axisys, are you running ubuntu?
[04:16] <axisys> arrick: yeap
[04:16] <arrick> which printer?
[04:16] <geniusvicks> changing group of `/media/hda5': Operation not permitted
[04:16] <axisys> minolta 350/250/200
[04:16] <geniusvicks> this is what I get
[04:16] <nickrud> geniusvicks, then you need to edit the /etc/fstab (file system table)
[04:16] <arrick> hang on
[04:17] <geniusvicks> i c
[04:17] <th0rndike> geniusvicks,  try on console echo $UID
[04:17] <Cubies> I've partitioned my master IDE harddrive into two partitions, 20GB each. How do I format the second partition to ext3 so that I can install Ubuntu and duel boot?
[04:17] <th0rndike> see ur id
[04:17] <nickrud> geniusvicks, if you'll put yours on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:17] <LinuxJones> axisys: I usually pick the driver that's closes to the model printer I'm trying to setup. It works most of the time.
[04:17] <th0rndike> then edit fstab with UID=(ur id)
[04:17] <axisys> LinuxJones: could not find anything close to minolta 350/250/200
[04:18] <LinuxJones> axisys: do you know if your printer does postcript ?
[04:18] <axisys> LinuxJones: it does
[04:18] <vook> Cubies, the Ubuntu installer will take care of the format and the dual booting.
[04:18] <Cubies> I want to format the second partition to ext3.
[04:18] <th0rndike> no one knows what im asking?
[04:18] <RMeist> ehr
[04:19] <Cubies> It says it will format and lose all data on the partitions for the IDE harddrive.
[04:19] <Cubies> I'm worried it will format Windiws.
[04:19] <Cubies> Windows.
[04:19] <geniusvicks> nickrud I pasted it
[04:19] <MrCollins> hey guys
[04:20] <arrick> hey Cubies it will autoatically format the drive if you let it
[04:20] <MrCollins> got a question.... I installed ubuntu base, for an ftp server box....
[04:20] <vook> Cubies, if you have two partitions, only select the second.  If windows is on hda1 (assumably), do not install there.  Only allow Ubuntu to install to hda2 or something other than hda1
[04:20] <arrick> axisys, even google doesn't help for that printer
[04:20] <MrCollins> I cant do anything.... apt get... sudo....
[04:20] <axisys> arrick: question or fact?
[04:20] <MrCollins> I cant even login as root..
[04:20] <arrick> fact
[04:20] <Cubies> It's a bit confusing cos I have two IDE harddrives, the first one is partitioned into two 20GB partitions.
[04:20] <arrick> I just performed it
[04:20] <axisys> arrick: yeap :-(
[04:21] <Cubies> One for Windows, the other for Ubuntu.
[04:21] <arrick> Google has only four option with the printer listed
[04:21] <MrCollins> how do I give my user access to apt-get and such.... like a terminal version or IRC
[04:21] <axisys> arrick: hehe
[04:21] <th0rndike> any channel i can ask about java programming?
[04:21] <twager> Hi ?
[04:21] <MrCollins> I installed Breezy Badger
[04:21] <axisys> http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Minolta this one has couple .. may be i can do trial and error
[04:21] <arrick> cubies hang on
[04:21] <Cubies> Thankies.
[04:22] <vook> Cubies, the second drive will be something like hdb hdc or hdd (depending on what your cd-rom drive is)
[04:22] <nickrud> geniusvicks, change that to read  .... defaults,uid=1000   (or replace 1000 with the results of  echo $UID if it's different)
[04:22] <Cubies> I have C: D: G:
[04:22] <geniusvicks> I want to change the group to 100
[04:22] <Ignoramus> ignoramus
[04:22] <geniusvicks> nickrud I want to change the group to 100
[04:22] <Cubies> C: = 20GB Partition, D: Slave IDE, G: = 20GB Partition
[04:22] <arrick> !dualboot
[04:22] <ubotu> from memory, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:23] <Cubies> !partitioning
[04:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, partitioning is best done using gparted, gparted, or fdisk. You must unmount a disk before it can be partitioned. Use the LiveCD for this.
[04:23] <arrick> Cubies, i followed the wiki to the t and everything went thhrough fine yeserday morning
[04:23] <Cubies> !wiki
[04:23] <arrick> !dualboot
[04:23] <ubotu> well, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:23] <nickrud> geniusvicks, you can give it any uid you want, (100 on my machine is cups)
[04:23] <vook> Cubies, D: = /dev/hdb1, G: = /dev/hdb2 (probably)
[04:23] <Cubies> Thanks.
[04:23] <arrick> Cubies, follow the dualboot page
[04:23] <arrick> ok
[04:23] <th0rndike> aawwww i get no attention :(
[04:24] <arrick> np :) I had to sk too
[04:24] <arrick> ask
[04:24] <geniusvicks> I have two users
[04:24] <MrCollins> hey th0rndike you just wait I asked...
[04:24] <_jason> th0rndike: #java
[04:24] <geniusvicks> They belong to group "users" number is 100 is the the same
[04:24] <vook> Cubies, if you already have the partitioning taken care of, Ubuntu will automagically set up dual booting.
[04:24] <geniusvicks> command
[04:25] <arrick> th0rndike, go to #Java
[04:25] <Cubies> It's the partitioning I'm having problems with.
[04:25] <MrCollins> did you guys see my question? just wondering..
[04:25] <nickrud> geniusvicks, then you want something a bit different: rw,auto,fmask=0117,dmask=0007,gid=1002
[04:25] <Cubies> I want it to change G: from NTFS to EXT3.
[04:25] <Healot> or to the Sun (Microsystem)
[04:25] <arrick> th0rndike, even ##Java
[04:25] <Cubies> Then I can install Ubuntu to G: and duelboot.
[04:25] <nickrud> geniusvicks, or a variation on that (replace 1002) with 100
[04:26] <geniusvicks> thanks
[04:26] <th0rndike> lol thx :(
[04:26] <arrick> Cubies, you should be able to tell it to do that once you get to the manual change partitions part
[04:26] <Healot> Cubies: duel with me :)
[04:26] <arrick> dualboot Cubies
[04:26] <arrick> not duel
[04:26] <geniusvicks> nickrud, should I replace the defaults with what you gave or append it with a comma to defaults
[04:26] <Hexidigital> cubies was challenged to a duel boot
[04:26] <arrick> hahah
[04:26] <vook> Cubies, in that case, just delete g:, you don't need to change anything.  You don't need to format anything prior to an install.  The install takes care of the formatting.
[04:27] <arrick> yep
[04:27] <nickrud> geniusvicks, that's one I'm using on a vfat, and i replaced defaults with that
[04:27] <Cubies> I'm going to delete the partitions that Ubuntu has created when I was messing about. Then I'll manuelly partition the G: Drive to EXT3 then install Ubuntu to G: drive???
[04:27] <geniusvicks> thanks
[04:27] <arrick> hey cu
[04:27] <Cubies> That's a good idea.
[04:27] <gabbah> I installed a HTML editor program, and now if I click links in my chat program they open in that new program instead of in a browser... how do I change that?
[04:27] <kleinlappies> hi
[04:27] <th0rndike> i need to register my stupid nick to enter java... whats the server?
[04:27] <th0rndike> nickserv?
[04:27] <Cubies> Have a 20GB NTFS partition on a 40GB harddrive and allow Ubuntu to create the other 20GB itselt.
[04:28] <arrick> hey Cubies leav the part you want to be ubuntu unpartitioned and then tell ubuntu to load into the free space, and it wil lpartition it for you
[04:28] <Cubies> itself.
[04:28] <Hexidigital> th0rndike, yes
[04:28] <vook> Cubies, exactly
[04:28] <nickrud> gabbah, find an html file on your system, right click it and select properties. the open with tab will let you select the default program
[04:28] <Cubies> Good thinking.
[04:28] <arrick> !NickServ
[04:28] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[04:28] <nickrud> !register
[04:28] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:28] <arrick> yeah that too
[04:28] <kleinlappies> can i make x-chat stay running while i do an logoff and logon
[04:28] <Cubies> Only get windmills in Holland.
[04:28] <Cubies> To make cheese.
[04:28] <Cubies> And clogs.
[04:29] <arrick> yeha
[04:29] <twager> What do Ubuntu users use instead of Azureus ?
[04:29] <Cubies> Bittorront?
[04:29] <ragunath> i am having problems with PATH , is there a file to check it
[04:29] <twager> Command line ?
[04:29] <Cubies> I can't seem to use '/' in Linux filenaming.
[04:29] <nickrud> kleinlappies, xchat quits when gnome quits. Just the way it works.
[04:29] <Healot> gnome-bittorrent is sufficient enough
[04:29] <Cubies> I understand why.
[04:29] <Cubies> Shame it's the only character I can't use.
[04:29] <LinuxJones> gabbah: check system >> preferences >> prefered applications
[04:29] <kleinlappies> shoot
[04:29] <Healot> Cubies it's the mother of UNIX based file system
[04:29] <vook> ragunath, just type "set" with nothing else to view, to change you use the "export" command
[04:29] <blekos> hello again :)
[04:30] <kleinlappies> are there any cmd line ones
[04:30] <Cubies> I wanted to name a folder http://
[04:30] <arrick> Cubies, try ./ in filenames
[04:30] <Healot> Imagine a tree
[04:30] <Cubies> I am a tree.
[04:30] <vook> ragunath, actually type 'echo $PATH"
[04:30] <blekos> ci've pluged a bluetooth dogle in an usb, how do i start this service?
[04:30] <variant> kleinlappies: irssi in screen
[04:30] <arrick> then grow leafs?
[04:30] <nickrud> kleinlappies, you could look into irssi
[04:30] <variant> kleinlappies: i have not disconnected from irc for weeks because im useing irssi remotely via ssh/screen
[04:30] <variant>  15:04:45 up 69 days, 15:29,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00
[04:30] <Cubies> When I hear bluetooth I imagine someone with a blue tooth.
[04:30] <Hexidigital> cubies, or if you dont need / just.do.something.like.this
[04:31] <Cubies> Front tooth at that.
[04:31] <kleinlappies> thanks gonna check it out
[04:31] <blekos> lol
[04:31] <arrick> blekos, try rebooting with it plugged in the first time you use it, it''s plug n pray
[04:31] <blekos> i c, thnx :)
[04:31] <vook> ragunath, make changes to $PATH permanent in /etc/bash.bashrc or /home/username/.bashrc
[04:31] <nickrud> variant, that's almost disgusting, uptime on irc ;)
[04:31] <Cubies> I'm gonna have to change internet provider if I'm to use broadband on Linux.
[04:31] <Hexidigital> why?
[04:32] <Cubies> AOL don't support Linux. :P
[04:32] <Hexidigital> ah
[04:32] <arrick> ouch
[04:32] <Cubies> I could emulate AOL using WINE.
[04:32] <Cubies> XD
[04:32] <Hexidigital> what about there oscar.login.whatever server?
[04:32] <Hexidigital> yes
[04:32] <ragunath> thanks vook i will try it
[04:32] <GnarusLeo> Of all the things I have heard bad about (including freakin M$), AOL tops the list!
[04:32] <Cubies> brb
[04:33] <nickrud> Cubies, look at penggy
[04:33] <Healot> Microsoft is just good as any other companies even better I might say
[04:33] <vook> ragunath, to change path in bash.bashrc it'd be something like 'export PATH=$PATH:/this/is/the/additionalpath (otherwise you'll delete your old path as well, you just want to append to the existing one)
[04:34] <GnarusLeo> Healot, concerning business, I agreed .. concerning user policies, i really dont :)
[04:34] <Healot> well... what do you think I was talking about?
[04:34] <Healot> I worked with Microsoft...
[04:34] <GnarusLeo> beats me, I just made a point concerning companies spoken bad off ..
[04:35] <gabbah> LinuxJones, I did check where you said... but couldn't find how to change it back. i can set the preffered browser there and that's all.
[04:35] <arrick> me too,
[04:35] <molinero> Hi to all ubuntu users!
[04:35] <GnarusLeo> Healot, good for you .. guess the paycheck's kinda allright :)
[04:35] <th0rndike> anyone knows why i cant install java 1.5 on ubuntu?
[04:35] <nickrud>  gabbah, find an html file on your system, right click it and select properties. the open with tab will let you select the default program
[04:35] <aspro> bonjour tout le monde
[04:35] <Healot> yup, GnarusLeo :)
[04:35] <arrick> th0rndike, ##Jave
[04:36] <Frogzoo> !tell th0rndike about java
[04:36] <arrick> ##Java
[04:36] <GnarusLeo> !tell aspro about fr
[04:36] <th0rndike> lol
[04:36] <gabbah> nickrud, ah thanks.. that should work
[04:36] <nickrud> th0rndike, why not?
[04:36] <lamhamdi> coco
[04:36] <Frogzoo> th0rndike: just follow the instructions & install Sun's jre - very straightforward
[04:36] <th0rndike> it wont let me!
[04:36] <nickrud> (<Tab> means press the Tab Key) In the directory where you downloaded the sun jre, type sudo aptitude install java-package ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre<Tab> ; sudo dpkg -i sun<Tab>
[04:36] <Hexidigital> th0rndike, i got help with that same problem
[04:36] <arrick> ok later guys, gotto go to aninterview
[04:36] <Hexidigital> i went to the ##java channel
[04:36] <Frogzoo> th0rndike: yes it will, if you follow the instructions correctly
[04:36] <arrick> #java?
[04:37] <Hexidigital> arrick, to switch channels, type /join #channelname
[04:37] <LinuxJones> gabbah: just type in firefox32 %s
[04:38] <gabbah> LinuxJones, where?
[04:39] <redLAW> where can i download myth tv packages, beside apt-gett
[04:39] <redLAW> becuase i'm on 56k
[04:39] <gabbah> nickrud, html files where set to open with firefox... but if i click the link http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc it still opens with bluefish :/
[04:39] <LinuxJones> gabbah: in >> preferences >> prefered applications >> webbrowser >> command
[04:39] <GnarusLeo> redLAW, then you probably would get the highest speed
[04:39] <GnarusLeo> at apt-get
[04:39] <gabbah> LinuxJones, ok
[04:39] <LinuxJones> gabbah: it should say bluefish in there now
[04:39] <redLAW> i want to install it manually
[04:40] <Healot> via HTTP... redLAW
[04:40] <redLAW> i need link
[04:40] <nickrud> gabbah, did you try changing as LinuxJones said (different place, not a file association)
[04:40] <GnarusLeo> redLAW, then just google it omg
[04:40] <gabbah> LinuxJones, it says irefox -remote "openurl(%s,new-tab)" there right now
[04:40] <Healot> even worse because you need to read/link the dependecies manually, redLAW
[04:40] <Healot> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <LinuxJones> gabbah: I dunno what's up with that
[04:41] <deefzi> wicked, my panels just disappeared
[04:41] <gabbah> nickrud,  what filetype does http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc return though?
[04:41] <nickrud> gabbah, one or the other should do what you're asking, I'm stumped also
[04:41] <LinuxNoob> _jason, guess what... I managed to install Thunderbird without nagging you c",)
[04:41] <gabbah> nickrud, or perhaps it's php?
[04:41] <_jason> LinuxNoob: cool
[04:42] <LostKat> Compiling after Synaptic? Help??
[04:42] <LinuxJones> gabbah: if that doesn't work right click a .html file (from somewhere on your computer) and selct firefox to open with and click the checkbox to remember this.
[04:42] <gabbah> LinuxJones, yep it's already set to firefox if i do that :/
[04:43] <LostKat> !compiling
[04:43] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[04:44] <nickrud> gabbah, where are you clicking on this link you're opening?
[04:44] <th0rndike> !tell me about java
[04:44] <gabbah> nickrud, i found a html page on my HD
[04:44] <nickrud> noxo, the faqonirc one
[04:45] <gabbah> nickrud, oh you mean when i want it to open in FF? it's in Koversation, my chat client
[04:45] <nickrud> sorry noxo; gabbah look for an option in kde then :)
[04:45] <bSON> hi
[04:45] <jahshua> !themes
[04:45] <nickrud> gabbah, I don't run kde, but I think you can find it in kcontrol
[04:45] <gabbah> nickrud, in kde?
[04:46] <gabbah> nickrud, i run gnome
[04:46] <LinuxJones> gabbah: your running KDE ?
[04:46] <bSON> is there some way to get ubuntu dapper to eject mounted cd/dvd drives when pressing the eject button?
[04:46] <nickrud> gabbah, kde uses a different file association that gnome
[04:46] <LinuxJones> bSON: you have to right click the desktop cdrom icon and select eject
[04:46] <nickrud> gabbah, look in konverstation's options, and/or run kcontrol from a terminal and look in there
[04:47] <bSON> LinuxJones: so there is no way
[04:47] <MrCollins> I installed Ubuntu (Breezy) and I can not get root.. I cant do apt-get, I cant sudo or su or anything...
[04:47] <LinuxJones> bSON: notifications from cd/dvd drives eject button have never worked for a mounted disk in Linux as far as I know :(
[04:47] <MrCollins> can someone help me
[04:48] <GnarusLeo> MrCollins, you cant sudo??
[04:48] <MrCollins> no...
[04:48] <nickrud> MrCollins, did you type your own password when you tried sudo?
[04:48] <MrCollins> yes
[04:48] <GnarusLeo> MrCollins, how did that happen???
[04:48] <MrCollins> I installed base system... I typed server at install
[04:48] <Frogzoo> MrCollins: if you can't run sudo, you'll need to boot to recovery mode & fix the problem
[04:48] <MrCollins> and it asked for a user name i typed my user name then it asked for a password
[04:49] <gabbah> nickrud,
[04:49] <gabbah> gabbah@gabbah:~$ kcontrol
[04:49] <gabbah> bash: kcontrol: command not found
[04:49] <GnarusLeo> gabbah, "sudo apt-get install kcontrol"
[04:49] <Quinch> Quick question; how do I install a .deb file, again?
[04:49] <Frogzoo> !deb
[04:49] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[04:49] <GnarusLeo> Quinch, dpkg -i
[04:49] <Quinch> Thankyou.
[04:49] <snowblink> !tell MrCollins about expert
[04:49] <LinuxJones> Quinch: dpkg -i package.deb (from within the directory the .deb file is in)
[04:49] <nickrud> gabbah, I'd ask on #kubuntu for that question, it is a kde thing you need to fix ;)
[04:49] <LostKat> How do I find apps that I've installed from Synaptic?
[04:49] <GnarusLeo> !tell GnarusLeo about expert
[04:49] <snowblink> MrCollins, that might help you.
[04:49] <gabbah> bleh.. should i really need to install kcontrol to fix this? just because i installed bluefish??
[04:49] <MrCollins> I cant even login as root snowblink
[04:50] <LinuxJones> LostKat: whereis appname
[04:50] <Frogzoo> LostKat: ls /usr/bin   ???
[04:50] <snowblink> MrCollins, root is a locked account. You have to reboot in single user and issue those commands.
[04:50] <nickrud> gabbah, no, because you're using konversation. You need to use the kde method of file associations for a kde app. Gnome tools might not be sufficient
[04:50] <MrCollins> how do I boot as single user?
[04:51] <LostKat> LinuxJones/Frogzoo: Danke. Okay.. found. Other issue: They're not showing up in my Applications.
[04:51] <harisund> MrCollins, when you reboot your computer, you will see a message "Press esc in 5 seconds for GRUB menu"
[04:51] <MrCollins> I see
[04:51] <LinuxJones> LostKat: what app did you install ?
[04:51] <harisund> Press ESC, and then you will see a GRUB menu. There will be a memtest option, a single user option, and a regular option
[04:51] <LostKat> LinuxJones: Heh, various mud clients.
[04:51] <harisund> You will need to choose the single user option. This will take you to a console, and you will already be logged in as root.
[04:51] <MrCollins> I see thx harisund
[04:51] <bSON> LinuxJones: i meant, by pressing the eject button
[04:52] <MrCollins> ok thx harisund
[04:52] <harisund> You can then edit your /etc/sudoers file. use the command visudo
[04:52] <MrCollins> and all thx all
[04:52] <harisund> sure no problem
[04:52] <LinuxJones> LostKat: did you install from the ubuntu repos or from a .deb file ?
[04:52] <LostKat> LinuxJones: Repos.
[04:52] <gabbah> nickrud, a weird thing is that i can't remove bluefish from the "open with" list... firefox is checked, but I can't remove bluefish from that list still.
[04:53] <conn> sorry for the crazy question, but what does "<<" signify, for example in this line: v_inc = (src_h << 20) / drw_h;
[04:53] <tucoz> hello, is there a tool to tune the synaptic touchpad available for gnome?
[04:53] <nickrud> gabbah, that's ok, it's just an alternative. If you click it in the file manager, it should open with firefox, not bluefish.
[04:54] <LinuxJones> LostKat: you can run the menu editor and add them yourself.
[04:54] <gabbah> nickrud, yeah it does open in firefox.. so that part is ok.
[04:54] <nickrud> gabbah, so, it's all about konversation. An option there, or if necessary, kcontrol ;(
[04:54] <LostKat> LinuxJones: *facepalms* Thank you. Still not awake... I'll blame it on that.. yea.
[04:55] <gabbah> nickrud, couldn't find anything in Konversation
[04:55] <MrCollins> I will probably be back with more questions lol
[04:55] <LinuxJones> LostKat: apps should be added to the menu though as part of the install.
[04:55] <LostKat> LinuxJones: Hrm. Do I need to configure it to add them or should it do it automatically? Nothing I've installed w/Synaptic has auto-added to the AppList.
[04:56] <tucoz> I am looking for a frontend to the synaptic driver for xorg
[04:56] <gabbah> nickrud, you are right that it's only in Konversation... so what happens if I uninstall bluefish?
[04:56] <nickrud> gabbah, I have no idea how kde controls file associations, but if you're gonna run kde apps, kcontrol is worth having.
[04:57] <Quinch> 'ello, me again. Question; is there a way to "chain" commands? For example, "do this" then "do that" followed by "do something else", all in the same line?
[04:57] <gabbah> nickrud, ok.. I couldn't even see that bluefish was a kde app.. i installed it via synaptic
[04:57] <mds\> Quinch, you can use ; between each command
[04:57] <LinuxJones> LostKat: it "should" but that has to be added as part of the installation
[04:57] <xstation> hello
[04:57] <tucoz> Quinch, sure. configure; make; make install
[04:57] <nickrud> Quinch, use ; between, or && to test for ok execution before continuing
[04:58] <Quinch> mds\: Thanks. Tucoz, wrong address?
[04:58] <harisund> Quinch, you can either use ; or use a && between commands. Doing it the latter way will perform a second command only if the first one was a success
[04:58] <gnomefreak> anyone remember the direct rendering command for glxgears?
[04:58] <Quinch> Thanks everyone.
[04:58] <dylan_> how do i hdparm my /dev/hda so it reads faster and removes the bottleneck?
[04:58] <LostKat> LinuxJones: You know, I've not seen a option for it, otherwise I'd have told it to do so. Devious installer, bah. Suggestions?
[04:58] <harisund> gnomefreak, what are you looking at?
[04:58] <xstation> what lines do i add to my sources list for kde 3.5.2
[04:58] <_zippy_> pls.. how i can install java? i installed all java com apt-get and when i try to run a java aplicattion i got this error: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ....... PS: i'm on AMD64
[04:58] <plunder> I have sometrouble moungin a HD, can some1 help me?
[04:59] <gnomefreak> harisund: nothing right now i need to know if direct rendering is enabled
[04:59] <tucoz> join #ubuntu+1
[04:59] <gnomefreak> and theres is a command for it just cant remmeber it
[04:59] <LinuxJones> LostKat: like I said you can add an entry using the menu editor
[04:59] <mds\> xstation: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[04:59] <harisund> gnomefreak, I would simply try glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:59] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:59] <harisund> You should see either a "yes" or "no
[05:00] <LostKat> LinuxJones: That's the plan. Thank you, again. You're my hero for this morning.  ;P
[05:00] <gogo_> Hi guys, how do i log in with superuser rights?
[05:00] <xstation> mds\: thanks I have gnome at the moment so just add the line you suggested and apt-get update and apt-get install kde?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> ok its glxinfo | grep direct
[05:00] <harisund> Did that work for you? (gnomefreak)
[05:01] <gnomefreak> ^^^ that did
[05:01] <mds\> xstation, I *think* you'll want to apt-get install kubuntu-dektop
[05:01] <sergevn> @gogo_ In the shell type "su"
[05:01] <plunder> (did I talk, or am I muted? )
[05:01] <harisund> good to hear that gnomefreak
[05:01] <mds\> then add those lines and apt-get update, and apt-get-upgrade
[05:01] <gnomefreak> plunder: your not muted
[05:01] <Narada> Hmm php locale is not working and it is because php was not compiled with libgcc enabled.  Any workaround?
[05:01] <xstation> mds\ yes thanks but what what lines are nedded in my sources list
[05:01] <gogo_> sorry i don't have much experience here, shell?
[05:02] <plunder> thanks gnome, then can I ask for help here? or is there a special room for that?
[05:02] <ic56> conn: << in C means do a binary shift left.  Eg 3<<1 = 5
[05:02] <ic56>   2<<2 = 8
[05:02] <gnomefreak> shell = terminal
[05:02] <harisund> Wait gogo_, did you mean log into the desktop using root?
[05:02] <mds\> xstation: it tells you on that page (deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main)
[05:02] <Narada> gogo_: "sudo su -" in the shell without the quotes or "su -"
[05:02] <mds\> but you don't need to add any to install kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <mds\> only to upgrade it
[05:02] <ds[de] > ic56: wouldn't 3<<1 be 6? ;)
[05:03] <gogo_> i want to edit menu1st. so i need special rights
[05:03] <gnomefreak> or install the 3.5 cleanly
[05:03] <gnomefreak> gogo_: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:03] <gnomefreak> ^^ that list?
[05:03] <ic56> conn: oops: 3<<1 = 6.  Thanks ds[de]  !
[05:03] <gogo_> thanx guys
[05:03] <sergevn> @gnomefreak Nice, i think he now understands :)
[05:04] <gnomefreak> sergevn: can only hope ;)
[05:04] <sergevn> @gogo_ yw :)
[05:04] <harisund> Anyone using irssi for chatting here? I really  want it to disable showing me who has just logged in, and who has just logged out and instead just show me the conversations
[05:04] <xstation> mds\ thanks yes it does, only thing now is to stop the curser bounceing up and down like zebadie from the magic roundabout
[05:05] <gnomefreak> harisund: type /help   i cant remember command off hand
[05:05] <gabbah> nickrud, i fixed it with kcontrol... but they do open slow...
[05:05] <harisund> Hmm,, am trying that..thanks
[05:05] <nickrud> gabbah, it should be faster now, you needed to load up all the kde support libs the first time
[05:05] <xstation> mds\ when I installed a version ok kde some time ago curser looks like it has a spring attached to it
[05:06] <_jason> harisund: /help ignore, I think something like /ignore #UBUNTU JOIN PARTS works but check...
[05:06] <LinuxJones> LostKat: :)
[05:06] <gnomefreak> _jason: thats it
[05:07] <gnomefreak> plunder: please dont pm me without asking
[05:07] <harisund> Ah ok , let me check
[05:07] <sergevn> Man, i love ubuntu :)
[05:07] <plunder> sorry, I'm a bit new here, and I kinda need help =(
[05:07] <gnomefreak> right now im not liking as much as i did yesterday
[05:07] <gnomefreak> plunder: tell the room your issues
[05:08] <gabbah> nickrud, actually the thing that bugsme is that it opens a new taskbar entry that says "opening firefox", but it also opens the link in a new tab in the already existing firefox like it should. After a few seconds the new taskbar entry dissapears. I guess the actual opening of the link in the existing firefox is as fast as it can be though.
[05:08] <_jason> harisund: /help levels, will be helpful too since it is JOINS not JOIN
[05:08] <harisund> hehe, yes I noticed that.
[05:09] <harisund> thanks a lot anyway.. from my school machines I ssh back home and use irssi .. other wise I use somethign like Gaim ..
[05:09] <nickrud> gabbah, kde & gnome interactions are sometimes not well defined, as long as the end result is what you need ...
[05:09] <harisund> thanks a lot again.
[05:09] <gabbah> is there any reason that "keyboard shortcuts" in ubuntu can't contol xmms? I set a button do act as play/pause, but it has no effect?
[05:09] <gabbah> nickrud, i guess i will have to live with it then.
[05:10] <plunder> I have just installed ubuntu, and I need to mount my other partitions, I succeeded in mounting 2 of my 3 partitions (full access and stuff), however my third drive gives an error when I want to do something on it (Read-only device/read-only disk it says). I did mount this device just the same way as the other 2 pertitions
[05:10] <digitalSurgeon> can a patent be challenged in court ?
[05:10] <Keleksi> what happen if u install Xfce4?
[05:10] <Keleksi> i*
[05:10] <geargolem> gnomefreak: hello
[05:10] <gabbah> plunder, perhaps the third one is ntfs?
[05:10] <ds[de] > plunder: what filesystem is on that disk?
[05:10] <Google__Firefox> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[05:10] <plunder> they are all fat 32
[05:10] <Frogzoo> digitalSurgeon: kind of offtopic, but yes, of course
[05:11] <digitalSurgeon> good
[05:11] <digitalSurgeon> thanks
[05:11] <ds[de] > plunder: did you try to mount them manually or via /etc/fstab ?
[05:12] <ompaul> opme
[05:12] <ompaul> doh
[05:12] <quellhorst> how can i install a redhat source rpm on ubuntu?
[05:12] <plunder> @ ds[de]  yes
[05:12] <ds[de] > quellhorst: you can use 'alien' to convert the package to .deb
[05:12] <ds[de] > plunder; yes what?
[05:12] <plunder> the 3rd partition is another HD
[05:12] <geargolem> hello I lost my X Display and reset my repositories to dapper.  Is there anything else to do to get my display working?
[05:12] <plunder> yes; I tried mounting them with fstab
[05:13] <ds[de] > plunder; can you paste your /etc/fstab on pastebin.com or in query?
[05:13] <hamdiz> hi..
[05:13] <quellhorst> ds[de] , done, now how do i install the src .deb  ?
[05:13] <hamdiz> ... :)
[05:13] <variant> plunder: do you have options in fstab "rm,users"?
[05:13] <geargolem> gnomefreak: are you available?
[05:13] <ds[de] > quellhorst: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:13] <variant> plunder: sorry, rw,users
[05:14] <gogo_> I don't know my superuser password. How do i get it?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> yes sorry
[05:14] <bSON> why is it that, in 2006, you can't unmount cd drives by just pressing the eject button?
[05:14] <ds[de] > gogo_, are you sure you have set one?
[05:14] <variant> gogo_: sudo su
[05:14] <variant> gogo_: then passwd
[05:14] <nickrud> !tell gogo_ about root
[05:14] <geargolem> gnomefreak: no problem.  I got the updates done
[05:14] <ompaul> !tell gogo about root
[05:14] <variant> gogo_: that will change the password
[05:14] <gogo_> i don't remember setting one actually
[05:14] <ompaul> !root
[05:14] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:14] <geargolem> lol
[05:14] <gnomefreak> geargolem: reboot into new kernel please
[05:14] <quellhorst> ds[de] , that doesnt seem to have compiled anything
[05:14] <geargolem> ok gnomefreak
[05:14] <ds[de] > gogo_; then try what variant said, sudo passwd
[05:14] <plunder> I mounted with the following command ->  /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o umask=000
[05:14] <azurehuesofblue> in channels that require you to /msg IDENTIFY, do you really have to type out your password with no astericks or anything?
[05:14] <ompaul> variant, you don't pass that on you pass that url on and then the user can make their own mind up
[05:14] <geargolem> brb
[05:15] <plunder> (and then adapted to my own settings)
[05:15] <LinuxJones> geargolem: did you install ati or nvidia binary drivers ?
[05:15] <ds[de] > azurehuesofblue; yes
[05:15] <azurehuesofblue> :-/ that's not cool... oh well.
[05:15] <kleinlappies> what is fedora best used for server or workstation?
[05:15] <nickrud> frisbee
[05:15] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: step stool
[05:15] <MrCollins> ok
[05:15] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: i would ask in #fedora
[05:16] <MrCollins> is there a text irc so I can chat to you guys from ubuntu, this is from a win32 box.
[05:16] <gnomefreak> MrCollins: irssi
[05:16] <nickrud> MrCollins, irssi
[05:16] <MrCollins> I do not have X installed on ubuntu. ah ok
[05:16] <kleinlappies> why? i want to make and office with ubuntu workstations but don't know what to use as a server
[05:16] <ds[de] > quellhorst; sorry, I missed that "source" in "source rpm"
[05:16] <gnomefreak> there are others but that seems best for me
[05:16] <MrCollins> I was lookin for BitchX but apt-get didnt have that pkg... thx!
[05:16] <nickrud> kleinlappies, use ubuntu server install
[05:16] <bSON> did somebody see my post?
[05:16] <nickrud> kleinlappies, same tools, same structure, only need to know in detail one distro
[05:17] <kleinlappies> isn't it quite new and unpolished?
[05:17] <jahshua> BitchX sucks anyway
[05:17] <gnomefreak> MrCollins: i think bitchx is in universe repo
[05:17] <kleinlappies> nickkrud thanks thats gonna help
[05:17] <gnomefreak> !info bitchx
[05:17] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1466 kB, Installed size: 6484 kB
[05:17] <gnomefreak> yep ;)
[05:18] <jahshua> irssi rules
[05:18] <MrCollins> hehe
[05:18] <MrCollins> ok it says irssi has no installation candidate
[05:18] <jahshua> it should already be installed?
[05:18] <kleinlappies> jahshua im gonna check it out now busy downloading
[05:18] <jahshua> i think
[05:18] <MrCollins> *checks*
[05:18] <geargolem> gnomefreak: back.
[05:18] <gnomefreak> geargolem: ok type uname -r and tell me what it says
[05:18] <nickrud> !tell MrCollins about repositories
[05:19] <jahshua> #1 tip for irssi  ... use ctrl n and ctrl p to change channels  :)
[05:19] <bSON> hello?
[05:19] <geargolem> gnomefreak: its still the same kernel; 2.6.12-10-386
[05:19] <jahshua> Linux higher 2.6.15-18-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Mar 9 14:41:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:19] <plunder> variant: I Copy/pasted in a PM
[05:19] <gnomefreak> geargolem: than there is something not right with your sources.list file
[05:19] <geargolem> gnomefreak: I think I messed the upgrade up
[05:20] <gnomefreak> geargolem: you still have breezy sources im betting
[05:20] <Stork> how can i tell what version of nvidia drivers i have installed?
[05:20] <geargolem> gnomefreak: I'll check
[05:20] <geargolem> brb
[05:20] <MrCollins> nickrud i do not have X installed...
[05:20] <quellhorst> how can i install a redhat source rpm on ubuntu?
[05:20] <MrCollins> and irssi is not installed....
[05:21] <gnomefreak> quellhorst: you cant
[05:21] <nickrud> in a terminal, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list . Delete the # at the beginning lines 19 & 20, add the word multiverse at the ends of lines 19 & 20, and save.
[05:21] <jahshua> sudo apt-get install irssi
[05:21] <quellhorst> I tried alien but it doesnt seem to compile
[05:21] <jahshua> should work?
[05:21] <nickrud> MrCollins, that post above was for you
[05:21] <ompaul> quellhorst, what do you want to install
[05:21] <defrysk> quellhorst, sudo apt-get source -b blah.src.rpm
[05:21] <gnomefreak> quellhorst: read my comment above
[05:21] <MrCollins> ok thx nick!
[05:21] <Frogzoo> !tell quellhorst about alien
[05:21] <defrysk> then alien blah.rpm
[05:21] <MrCollins> jahshua it doesnt work
[05:21] <jahshua> odd
[05:21] <defrysk>  then install blah.deb
[05:22] <ompaul> !tell quellhorst about repos
[05:22] <defrysk> sudo rpmbuild -b blah.src.rpm it is i beleive
[05:22] <defrysk> then use aliien to install the rpm
[05:22] <kleinlappies> jahshua when i open it up (irssi) how do i get to ubuntu irc? prob a silly Q but im a newbie
[05:23] <gnomefreak> MrCollins: for irssi its already installed for bitchx first enable universe than apt-get update than apt-get install bitchx
[05:23] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: /connect chat.freenode.net
[05:23] <xstation> hello
[05:23] <smartass> I have a problem! Whats the password for the root? I havnt chosen anyone...
[05:23] <Frogzoo> quellhorst: what is this RPM you need so badly?
[05:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell smartass about root
[05:24] <kingspawn> !root
[05:24] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:24] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: than if you want to be identifyed  its /msg nickserv identify password than /j #ubuntu
[05:24] <nickrud> !tell smartass about root
[05:24] <xstation> what is the line in sudo apt-get for installing kde desktop
[05:24] <ompaul> quellhorst, it is suggested that you tell us what the program is RH != Ubuntu there are differences
[05:24] <gimmulf>  How do i format a harddrive in fat32 ?
[05:24] <Frogzoo> try sudo smartass
[05:24] <gimmulf> fdisk?
[05:24] <nickrud> xstation, kubuntu-desktop
[05:24] <gnomefreak> xstation: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:24] <bSON> nobody wanna answer me?
[05:24] <ompaul> quellhorst, we may be able to point you to a specific version that will work for you
[05:24] <Frogzoo> lastnode: bSON:
[05:24] <kleinlap1ies> gnomefreak sending this from irssi thanks :)
[05:25] <jahshua> bSON: repeat plz
[05:25] <quellhorst> im trying to install lighttpd 1.4.11
[05:25] <gnomefreak> i didnt see the nick smartass
[05:25] <nickrud> gnomefreak, if the shoe fits ;)
[05:25] <gnomefreak> ;)
[05:25] <bSON> why is it that, in 2006, you can't unmount cd drives by just pressing the eject button?
[05:25] <xstation> nickrud/gnomefreak: thanks and the soultion to stop curser bouncing like a spring in kde?
[05:25] <nsmith> I have installed the w32codecs and I get sound but no video when playing mpeg files.  Any solutions?
[05:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell nsmith about multimedia
[05:25] <nickrud> xstation, no kde here, sorry
[05:25] <jahshua> bSON: i dont know, sorry, i havent experienced that issue
[05:25] <gnomefreak> i cant seem to break it again :(
[05:26] <cdo> !bind
[05:26] <ubotu> cdo: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:26] <bSON> jahshua: does that mean you can eject a mounted cd drive with just hitting the drive's eject button?
[05:26] <nickrud> bSON, same principle as usb devices, it's removable so handle it the same way.
[05:26] <ompaul> bSON, because the drive is mounted go to your desktop right click on the CD and choose (A) umount or (B) eject)
[05:26] <GudyUbuntu_> Hi, has anyone been able to compile cyberlink for c++ on ubuntu?
[05:26] <nsmith> ubotu was that directud to me?
[05:26] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nsmith
[05:27] <ompaul> !ubotu
[05:27] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[05:27] <kleinlap1ies> hi now speaking to you all from irssi (gonna give it a bash)
[05:27] <nsmith> thanks
[05:27] <jbroome> kleinlap1ies: woohoo!
[05:27] <joeljkp> join #gimp
[05:27] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: after you get little better at it you will love what it can do ;)
[05:28] <bSON> ompaul: but why don't automate it with gnome-volume-manager or so? that would make a better end-user experience, for windows users expect a drive to open if they press eject button
[05:28] <MrCollins> hmm it said could not stat source pkg list *insert long url here* - stat (2 no such file or directory) irssi has no candidiate
[05:28] <_jason> nsmith: yes, checout the link to codecs ubotu sent you
[05:28] <kleinlap1ies> how would i get a hp networked printer working?
[05:28] <nickrud> MrCollins, sudo apt-get update , then try again
[05:28] <MrCollins> nickrud i did it already
[05:29] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: im sorry but i dont think irssi can help with that ;) j/k
[05:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kleinlappies about print
[05:29] <GudyUbuntu_> I'll try a different question then, has anyone got this error when running a configure script :
[05:29] <ic56> gimmulf: mkfs -t vfat /dev/hda2 (hda2 = 2nd partition in 1st harddisk)
[05:29] <nickrud> MrCollins, you may have had an error while editing the sources.list ;(
[05:29] <giard> anyone know how I could set ubuntu to turn networking (general and a specific device) on by default when I boot?
[05:29] <MrCollins> ahhh
[05:29] <MrCollins> ok
[05:29] <MrCollins> let me go back... and double check
[05:29] <GudyUbuntu_> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:29] <GudyUbuntu_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:29] <C-O-L-T> why is mplayer slower on my machine than totem
[05:29] <C-O-L-T> ?
[05:30] <_jason> GudyUbuntu_: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[05:30] <ompaul> bSON, this is not windows and we dont do things that way, if something is mounted it is locked that may change if you want to request it as a feature go to launchpad.net and report is as a feature request against "mount" but there are "good" linux reasons not to do that
[05:30] <gnomefreak> GudyUbuntu_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:30] <GudyUbuntu_> thanks, will try that
[05:31] <jenda> Anyone here have an Acer Travelmate?
[05:31] <bSON> ompaul: don't think so... if the device is in use, such a feature naturally would report that instead of ejecting the cd... the behaivior should be exactly the same as if you had chosen Eject in nautilus
[05:31] <MrCollins> package irssi has no installation candidate
[05:31] <MrCollins> it says irssi is not available...
[05:32] <gnomefreak> MrCollins: in terminal type irssi
[05:32] <gnomefreak> MrCollins: its preinstalled
[05:32] <_jason> MrCollins: irssi-text is the package but it should be installed as gnomefreak says
[05:33] <GudyUbuntu_> _jason, gnomefreak : thanks, it helped a bit :)
[05:33] <MrCollins> command not found
[05:33] <ompaul> bSON, it is a physical world thing, the nautilus thing umounts sweetly the request would have to do a umount -f may not be good for users on a multiuser machine
[05:33] <nickrud> MrCollins, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin is a script you can use to put stuff on a pastebin from a terminal ; you need to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <MrCollins> nickrud
[05:33] <MrCollins> its on a different box
[05:34] <ompaul> bSON, where should it report?
[05:34] <Linux_Kong> can someone try and ssh to staging.homeunix.net please, just testing my ssh forwarding in my router and my dyndns setup, thanks
[05:34] <bSON> through a dialog window, as the Eject command of nautilus does?
[05:35] <nickrud> MrCollins, then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11052 is a minimal sources.list, should get you back up and running for apt anyway
[05:36] <zeus> hola
[05:36] <Frogzoo> bSON: my guess is that it's because linux handles mounts in user space, and the eject button would have to be handled by the kernel, so you'd need the kernel to call user space routines - which isn't typically how linux works
[05:36] <MrCollins|irssi> yay!
[05:36] <bSON> Frogzoo: but hal runs user space, doesn't it?
[05:36] <MrCollins|irssi> i had to type apt-get install irssi-text
[05:37] <Frogzoo> bSON: hal is currently undergoing a complete rewrite, I understand
[05:37] <bSON> Frogzoo: at least gnome-volume-manager does, and must anyway be the invoker of the eject
[05:37] <MrCollins|irssi> thanks guys!
[05:38] <MrCollins|irssi> where is a good general ubuntu howto....
[05:38] <Frogzoo> !tell MrCollins|irssi about doc
[05:38] <ompaul> bSON, I think this is well beyond the releams of a support channel why not talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:38] <bSON> ok
[05:38] <nnonix> I'm getting audio but no video from VLC. w32codecs are installed. Ideas?
[05:39] <MrCollins|irssi> I want to install an ftp server on this box.. as well as get samba working...
[05:39] <MrCollins|irssi> which should I tackle first samba? or ftp?
[05:39] <nnonix> P.S. with wmv files. OGG play fine
[05:39] <Frogzoo> MrCollins|irssi: 'sudo apt-get install samba' - now decide on your ftp server :)
[05:39] <MrCollins|irssi> hehe Frogzoo
[05:40] <bon_> i am have problems mounting my digtal camera i have kubuntu 5.10 and a cannon eso 300d, it see the camera when i lisst th usb devices but then i switch it on for the first time it does'nt take any action exept then i change the camera communication mode to ptp indsteaad of normal
[05:40] <MrCollins|irssi> bon_ what error does mount give you
[05:41] <bon_> no device when switched to ptp
[05:42] <plunder> I have a third partition (2nd HD) I try to mount, I succeed in mounting, however ubuntu says it is a read-only disk/device when I try to modify some files there. ds[de]  can confirm I mounted the right way
[05:42] <MrCollins|irssi> hmm. someone more experienced will have to help you.. I had a problem once with a dig camera... all I did was switch to a different USB hub.
[05:42] <bon_> Unknown error
[05:42] <bon_>  Bad parameters
[05:42] <Frogzoo> bon_: in gnome you can run gthumbviewer (probably can under KDE too) & then run "import photos" & have it detect your camera
[05:43] <nickrud> plunder, please put up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org the output of mount | sort and the contents of /etc/fstab
[05:43] <MrCollins|irssi> hey Frogzoo which ftp should I install?
[05:43] <jcorz25> new user here
[05:43] <jcorz25> can someone answer a hardware question for me?
[05:44] <MrCollins|irssi> what just happened
[05:44] <MrCollins|irssi> lol
[05:44] <escavias> hola
[05:45] <jcorz25> how do you add a webcam to ubuntu?
[05:45] <Frogzoo> MrCollins|irssi: I don't run ftp - but proftpd looks fairly comprehensive
[05:45] <Frogzoo> jcorz25: run gthumbviewer & 'import  photos" to have your camera detected
[05:45] <MrCollins|irssi> ahh thx Frogzoo
[05:46] <MrCollins|irssi> Frogzoo how do I search for package names
[05:46] <MrCollins|irssi> I just tried proftpd in apt and it says package doesnt exist.
[05:47] <Manny> MrCollins|irssi, what command did you use, and did you read man apt-get?
[05:47] <Manny> ugh, man apt-cache
[05:47] <jcorz25> Frogzoo: it saw it as an unknown model.
[05:47] <jcorz25> Any other ideas?
[05:47] <MrCollins|irssi> Manny i did sudo apt-get install proftpd
[05:48] <Frogzoo> MrCollins|irssi: apt-cache search string
[05:48] <Manny> MrCollins|irssi, this should definitly have worked. I suppose you misspelled it (besides, I recommend vsftpd :)
[05:48] <VR_> MrCollins|irssi: you may have to enable universe/multiverse repos
[05:48] <MrCollins|irssi> VR_ i did in source.list file!
[05:48] <MrCollins|irssi> thank you Frogzoo
[05:48] <VR_> MrCollins|irssi: you could have done it in synaptic also
[05:49] <Frogzoo> MrCollins|irssi: yw
[05:49] <GudyUbuntu_> ha, I've got a new error (when compiling VLC this time) : configure: error: Cannot find development headers for libfaad...
[05:49] <MrCollins|irssi> ok VR_
[05:49] <MrCollins|irssi> vsftpd better?
[05:49] <GudyUbuntu_> and apt-cache search doesn't give any result for libfaad or faad ...
[05:49] <MrCollins|irssi> sorry.
[05:49] <Frogzoo> jcorz25: then probly's it's off to google 'model + linux'
[05:49] <MrCollins|irssi> Manny: vsftpd better?
[05:49] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: it does for me
[05:49] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: unless youre using dapper?
[05:50] <jcorz25> ty
[05:50] <GudyUbuntu_> how do I know what I'm using?
[05:50] <Frogzoo> MrCollins|irssi: unless your ftp requirements are fairly hardcore, I'd guess any of the ftpd's in the repos will be fine
[05:50] <fcorrea> I am on dapper and I just changed my keyboard to a Microsoft Media Pro. How do I reconfigure it? Any app to run? on straigh on xorg.conf?
[05:51] <MrCollins|irssi> ok Frogzoo thank you!
[05:51] <Frogzoo> MrCollins|irssi: the thing to be really careful about is security, as running ftpd is a big weakness
[05:51] <MrCollins|irssi> Frogzoo: how so?
[05:51] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: which distro did you install?
[05:51] <GudyUbuntu_> no idea ;p
[05:52] <VR_> hehe
[05:52] <Frogzoo> MrCollins|irssi: it's about the biggest vector for 'nix after rpc
[05:52] <GudyUbuntu_> something from october 2005
[05:52] <ardchoille> What is the official dapper channel?
[05:52] <holycow> fcorrea: you know, i've had trouble just making that piece of crap to run on windows ...  recommend buying a real keyboard my self ... other than that no ideas :/
[05:52] <MrCollins|irssi> I see.
[05:52] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: go to system > about gnome
[05:52] <Frogzoo> ardchoille: #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: see which version it is
[05:52] <ardchoille> Frogzoo: thanks
[05:52] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <GudyUbuntu_> 2.12.1
[05:52] <MrCollins|irssi> well... security is not a big issue... because if this install botchs etc.. I will just reinstall. the data will be on a cd
[05:53] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: yeah, that's breezy, not dapper.
[05:53] <GudyUbuntu_> sounds right :)
[05:53] <gnomefreak> !version
[05:53] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[05:53] <gnomefreak> ^^^ that will tell you what version ;)
[05:53] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: open a terminal, type sudo synaptic, then enter your password if it asks you to
[05:53] <MrCollins|irssi> I mean let me rephras that Frogzoo
[05:53] <GudyUbuntu_> I'm root in my terminal ;p
[05:53] <gnomefreak> VR_: gksudo
[05:54] <GudyUbuntu_> done
[05:54] <MrCollins|irssi> Security IS a BIG issue.. but it is not something I am worried about in this instance?
[05:54] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: go to settings > repositories
[05:54] <GudyUbuntu_> done
[05:54] <Frogzoo> MrCollins|irssi: it's best if you can run ftp in a chroot jail - so that's something to look for
[05:54] <MrCollins|irssi> if I was running a web server for a company or something.. I would anal hardcore about security... this is just for some data some people need access too...
[05:55] <GudyUbuntu_> "add" > done :)
[05:55] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: click on "add" yes
[05:55] <GudyUbuntu_> now, I don't know what else to do ;)
[05:55] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: check "universe" and "multiverse"
[05:55] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: then click ok
[05:56] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: then click yes
[05:56] <jsanchez> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:56] <GudyUbuntu_> ha, great
[05:56] <GudyUbuntu_> thanks a lot :)
[05:56] <Frogzoo> MrCollins|irssi: given that pure-ftpd is the only ftpd with a listing in the wiki, might be best to go with that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PureFTP?highlight=%28ftp%29
[05:56] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: now when you go a search for "faad" it'll show up
[05:57] <GudyUbuntu_> yep, thanks a lot VR_ :)
[05:57] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: no problem. i'm not exactly sure which one you will need for vlc. it may be the one that says gstreamer-faad or something
[05:57] <GudyUbuntu_> VR_ : (I in fact grabbed the libfaad2 and -dec packages ...)
[05:57] <GudyUbuntu_> dev*
[05:57] <idefix> GIMP question: the inverting of images doesn't work :-(
[05:57] <idefix> how can I make it work?
[05:58] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: it should work if you got them
[05:58] <idefix> oh wait, when you invert you invert the selection, not the image!!
[05:58] <GudyUbuntu_> VR_ : yep, new error ... libmpeg2 ...
[05:58] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: now you need that lib.
[05:58] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: btw, you're compiling from source, right?
[05:58] <smartass> Someone who speak swedish?
[05:58] <GudyUbuntu_> that's like the 7th time I've got add a new lib ... those scripts could test ALL dependencies ;)
[05:58] <GudyUbuntu_> from the svn version ;p
[05:59] <idefix> jag talar inte svenska
[05:59] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: if you haven't, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:59] <GudyUbuntu_> VR_, can't tell you how many things you've got to install simply to compile 1 app right after a linux install ... heh, at least I don't have to recompile my kernel ;p
[05:59] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: that may save you a bunch of problems down the road
[05:59] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: well, those are all the codecs and whatnot
[05:59] <GudyUbuntu_> VR_, I had to do it for cyberlink library ...
[06:00] <plunder> nickrud, where can I send my problem with that pastebin
[06:00] <VR_> GudyUbuntu_: you may wanna check the ubuntu wiki for codecs.
[06:00] <Akonkwa> I'm trying to access my windows FAT partition, using a 5.10 live cd, but when I "fdisk" my har drive, it shows the partition as an NTFS file system, and I KNOW, it's not an NTFS file system... can anyone help? does anyone know why this error occurs?
[06:00] <Frogzoo> Akonkwa: I'm guessing it's NTFS then...
[06:01] <ic56> twn Akonkwa
[06:01] <Akonkwa> ic56: twn?
[06:01] <Trae> What is the absolute best Desktop PCI 802.11g card for Ubuntu Linux?
[06:01] <ic56> Akonkwa: fdisk doesn't know about filesystems.  It only knows about the partitions in which filesystems live. (twn was a typo)
[06:01] <Frogzoo> !tell Trae about hardware
[06:02] <geargolem> gnomefreak: hello
[06:02] <VR_> !tell VR_ about hardware
[06:02] <Frogzoo> ic56: fdisk reads the partition table, which marks the type of partition
[06:02] <Akonkwa> ic56,  but then how come when I mount the partition, I can't write on it?
[06:03] <MrBaia> i somebody knows how can i remove ubuntu boot?!? (or tell me italian ubuntu channel on irc?!?) TNX!
[06:03] <Frogzoo> Akonkwa: when it's mounted, is it mounted as vfat or ntfs?
[06:03] <oskude> Trae, dunno if its 802.11g, but i had very good experience with prism3 chip. theres a huge linux-wlan list, should i digg it ?
[06:03] <Akonkwa> Frogzoo,  vfat
[06:03] <MrBaia> i somebody knows how can i remove ubuntu boot?!? (or tell me italian ubuntu channel on irc?!?) TNX!
[06:03] <gnomefreak> geargolem: im here
[06:03] <Trae> oskude, well...
[06:03] <gabbah> hi. I can't get the search bar wider... I've added #search-container, #searchbar{-moz-box-flex: 400 !important;} to  userChrome.css but no to no avail :(
[06:03] <Trae> I'm sorta looking for something I can just plug into breezy and have it work.
[06:03] <geargolem> gnomefreak: I redid sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but still same kernel
[06:03] <gabbah> and i've restarted ff too
[06:03] <Frogzoo> Akonkwa: well then it's vfat
[06:03] <gnomefreak> MrBaia: #ubuntu-it
[06:03] <MrCollins> ehehe there i go lol
[06:03] <Trae> without having to search around and recompile kerneels and crap
[06:03] <Trae> :/
[06:04] <VR_> Trae: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:04] <oskude> Trae, as i said, prism chips are good supported...
[06:04] <Akonkwa> Frogzoo, : meaning?
[06:04] <cerberusbe> anyone have an idea how i can connect to shared folders at my windows pc by a direct UTP link?
[06:04] <Trae> VR_, yeah, I'm there now
[06:04] <Akonkwa> Frogzoo, : Why can't I write on it?
[06:04] <Frogzoo> Akonkwa: dunno, if it's mounted it as vfat, it should be r/w
[06:05] <gnomefreak> geargolem: i hate doing this but im gonna suggest you reinstall breezy this way we start clean :(
[06:05] <geargolem> ack
[06:05] <Frogzoo> Akonkwa: mount | grep MOUNTPOINT
[06:05] <oskude> Trae, heres the huge list, but its from 2004 :( http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[06:05] <Trae> oskude, heh, for instance, if it were me and I know wgrt3411 heh worked fine, I'd recommend that to someone  give them the exact model # so they could have the same flawless experience.   Do you have an exact module # card?  Or just a "chipset" recommendation?
[06:05] <geargolem> gnomefreak: ok :(
[06:05] <geargolem> brb
[06:05] <Howitzer> How do i make the menubar in nautilus go away?
[06:06] <smetjen> hi evryone
[06:06] <oskude> Trae, because manufacturers change chips even in the same model, i would look if the chip is supported...
[06:06] <cerberusbe> yo
[06:06] <gnomefreak> Howitzer: view
[06:06] <Trae> oskude, that's evil.  :(  (about the manufactures that is)
[06:07] <smetjen> i've a problem, fucked up my hd's afther deleting ubuntu, and now i can't boot anny OS :s
[06:07] <oskude> Trae, or if youre buying from your local store, try it, when it doesnt work, test the next one, until you find one that works :)
[06:07] <gnomefreak> smetjen: language please
[06:07] <Frogzoo> !tell smetjen about grub
[06:07] <Howitzer> gnomefreak:  doesn't mention the menu. (I mean the 'file, edit, view, go, ..' menu)
[06:07] <Trae> oskude, heh
[06:07] <gnomefreak> oh you mean the upper menu?
[06:07] <plunder> how can I remove a whole directory with everything in it?
[06:07] <Frogzoo> smetjen: maybe you just need to reinstall grub? the bootloader
[06:07] <VR_> Howitzer: i dont think you can hide that
[06:08] <Howitzer> damn
[06:08] <smetjen> could be
[06:08] <Howitzer> really want it to go away
[06:08] <lopi> how are you
[06:08] <smetjen> i've deleted all my linux looking partitions (i'm a noob)
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Howitzer: that i dont know if you can without hacking the crap out of it
[06:08] <ic56> Frogzoo: you are correct that fdisk knows about partition types but note that it doesn't know about Linux filesystems.  Some OSs, especially Microsoft ones, don't distinguish between partition and the filesystem that's contained inside it.  Thus, the partition type also implies the filesystem type.  Not so for Linux filesystems.
[06:08] <VR_> Howitzer: use the console :)
[06:08] <darkriser> plunder: man rmdir
[06:08] <oskude> Trae, but the smoothes way would be to google first with linux and the model youre going to test..
[06:08] <Howitzer> ack
[06:08] <Trae> D-Link DWL-520+ acx100
[06:08] <Trae> Yes Yes Yes
[06:08] <Trae> Just Works, only distro that autodetects this one
[06:08] <Trae> ugh, thought I took out the spaces. :(
[06:09] <plunder> darkrise rmdir does not wor
[06:09] <Howitzer> and is it normal that firefox click-buttons look so damn ugly? (Like the 'im feeling lucky' box on google for example)
[06:09] <Trae> I've got an ACX111 that WAS working, but stopped working on me after a while.
[06:09] <Trae> :/
[06:10] <plunder> how can I remove a whole directory with everything in it? (rmdir does not work? )
[06:10] <ic56> plunder: rm -r
[06:11] <oskude> Trae, have you seen this: http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=357
[06:11] <gnomefreak> plunder: what about rm -r /pathe/to/dir
[06:11] <plunder> thanks!
[06:11] <Trae> oskude, sec, let me look
[06:11] <IamEthos> okay
[06:11] <IamEthos> so I followed the steps to set up Flash
[06:11] <aspro> Wil truc es parti ? :s
[06:11] <IamEthos> but it still isn'tw orking
[06:11] <IamEthos> I installed Firefox 1.5
[06:12] <VR_> i need a cheap card
[06:12] <stocksy> does anybody here use ubuntu on ppc?
[06:12] <VR_> netgear cards are $50
[06:12] <Trae> oskude, :/  yeah... I'm almost wish I could figure out how to get cat5 to my desktop instead.  heh.
[06:12] <IamEthos> oh
[06:12] <IamEthos> nevermind
[06:12] <Trae> and also run cat5 to my laptop area... in case I need to do fast file transfers.
[06:13] <MrCollins> is sshd installed by default by ubuntu breezy?
[06:13] <Trae> moving movies over wireless is a pain
[06:13] <stocksy> mrcollins: no
[06:13] <stocksy> apt-get install openssh-server
[06:13] <alfredo> :O
[06:13] <MrCollins> strocksy ok thx
[06:14] <VR_> stocksy: i've tried ubuntu on ppc
[06:14] <VR_> but i doubt that helps you
[06:14] <gnomefreak> my nic card was 15 dollars ;)
[06:15] <VR_> gnomefreak: what brand
[06:15] <stocksy> VR_: there doesn't seem to be a lot of mac oriented documentation for ubuntu
[06:15] <VR_> linksys
[06:15] <VR_> ?
[06:15] <stocksy> any tips?
[06:15] <gnomefreak> im not sure it was at walmart
[06:15] <stocksy> as in where to look for docs?
[06:16] <VR_> stocksy: yeah, there's very little. i just fiddled with the livecd a few times, hoping it would auto-detect my airport extreme connection, but no dice
[06:16] <VR_> gnomefreak: you gotta open up your box and let me know the brand. im shopping for a card right now
[06:16] <gnomefreak> VR_: yes its  alinksys
[06:16] <VR_> oh there ya go
[06:16] <VR_> hehe
[06:17] <stocksy> VR_: if it uses airport extreme, it's a wee bit newer than what I'm dealing with :P
[06:17] <gnomefreak> VR_: model NC100U
[06:17] <Consty> I'm having problems using gnomebaker to copy data dvd's.. anyone know if its possible with the current release in the repositories?
[06:18] <plunder> I really really have a strange problem :S
[06:18] <plunder> blah
[06:18] <VR_> gnomefreak: did it work out of the box?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> yep ;)
[06:18] <gnomefreak> plug in and go
[06:18] <VR_> gnomefreak: i dont see it on linksys.com
[06:18] <VR_> gnomefreak: is that breezy?
[06:18] <Frogzoo> !tell plunder about helpme
[06:18] <gnomefreak> VR_: hoary breezy and dapper
[06:18] <VR_> sweet
[06:18] <oskude> Trae, i assume you know this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:18] <VR_> im getting that
[06:19] <gnomefreak> let me see if i can find it
[06:19] <VR_> gnomefreak: i'll look at newegg or something
[06:19] <G0SUB> gnomefreak: which package has windows fonts?
[06:20] <VR_> G0SUB: msttcorefonts
[06:20] <G0SUB> ok
[06:20] <MrCollins> sweet
[06:20] <plunder> The Problem:
[06:20] <plunder> I have 3 partitions from a previous windows installation. Now I tried to mount then in ubuntu. 2 of the 3 partitions mount the way you expect them to. The third partition however is a seperate HD and gives an error when I modify files, saying the device is read-only. I mounted this device exactly the way I should, thus there are no problems in my command line. also as root I cannot edit files.
[06:20] <plunder> Suddenly I may add 1 extra little thing, When I delete a file just after I mounted in a terminal it removes without a problem. When when I open the device with my file-browsing program (forgot the name, just the default one) I suddenly can nolonger delete :S (not in file browsing program as in terminal) I can delete , and then after I did a ls I canno longer delete (or modify) :S
[06:20] <MrCollins> linux is so freaking sweet
[06:20] <evilmonkey> hi
[06:21] <MrCollins> ssh rules
[06:21] <VR_> gnomefreak: if you find that card, let me know.
[06:21] <gnomefreak> i will
[06:21] <VR_> thanks
[06:21] <_jason> plunder: what filesystem?
[06:21] <gnomefreak> VR_: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/search-ng.gsp?search_constraint=3944&search_query=linksys+nic+card&Continue.x=0&Continue.y=0&Continue=Find&ics=20&ico=0
[06:21] <VR_> thats a pci, right?
[06:21] <plunder> _jason, fat32
[06:22] <gnomefreak> yep ;)
[06:22] <VR_> gnomefreak: that's not wireless though right?
[06:22] <Trae> oskude, my WG311v2 is supposed to work ootb too... and did at one time.
[06:22] <ic56> plunder: what is the device name for the problematic partition?
[06:22] <Trae> it's no longer working
[06:22] <Trae> :/
[06:22] <_jason> plunder: can you 'sudo touch foo' on there?
[06:22] <Trae> anyway
[06:22] <Trae> oskude, thanks for all your help!
[06:23] <Trunkz> Errm, I just installed the icecast2 package off apt-get.. where is it actually installed? I need to edit the .conf file :o
[06:23] <gnomefreak> VR_: no its not but the w-m at end im assuming means they have a wireless one
[06:23] <variant> MrCollins: try screen with ssh now (it makes ssh even more usfull :P)
[06:23] <variant> MrCollins: or screen/ssh/irssi for an ideal combination on a remote host
[06:23] <arrick> Hey guys, Im back
[06:23] <VR_> gnomefreak: ah ok, see i need a wireless card
[06:24] <VR_> i doubt i'll find that for $15
[06:24] <bluefoxicy> ubotu gparted
[06:24] <ubotu> hmm... gparted is a partition editor. As always when manipulating partitions, backup your important data. When resizing NTFS partitions PLEASE defrag first to avoid potential data loss. There is a gparted livecd at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[06:24] <plunder> ic56, what do you mean, it's a normal HD
[06:24] <bluefoxicy> gparted is at 0.2.3
[06:24] <gnomefreak> VR_: i doubt it too
[06:24] <bluefoxicy> DAPPER HAS 0.1
[06:24] <bluefoxicy> BREEZY HAS 0.8
[06:24] <arrick> IDE or SCSI?
[06:24] <bluefoxicy> ERR.  0.0.8
[06:24] <ic56> plunder: what is listed in the first column of df's output for that filesystem?
[06:25] <arrick> Hey I like the fact that I can edit files on my NTFS partition without booting into it
[06:25] <plunder> plunder@55pc202:/media/hd3/Sympo$ sudo touch foo
[06:25] <plunder> touch: cannot touch `foo': Read-only file system
[06:25] <arrick> easier to change settings
[06:25] <schloob> ehh... does anyone know a way to get the host prompt for terminals (i.e. user@host:~$) to be like the usual greenish color? mine's white.. :\
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  i would NOT put too much TRUST in that.
[06:26] <arrick> Dr_Willis, only for changing text files, not anything else
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  even then. I wouldent trust it very much. Backup your Critical data :)
[06:26] <arrick> I have
[06:26] <ic56> plunder: why is it in /media?  is this a removable disk?  is it mounted over the network?
[06:26] <jcorz25_> Frogzoo: linux doesnt support my webcam. Is there a good one for linux?
[06:26] <Frogzoo> schloob: you need to put colour escapes in PS1 - but this is a bad thing to do really
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> make a 2nd and 5th backup then! :po
[06:26] <arrick> I'm changing slpash screen settings and stuff for my xp partition
[06:26] <arrick> haha
[06:27] <oskude> !webcam
[06:27] <ubotu> methinks webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[06:27] <plunder> ic56, I don't know why there, but I don't think it really makes a diffrence
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> jcorz25_,  ive tried 3 webcams none of mine work.. sadly. May want to do some googling and research befor ya buy a new one.
[06:27] <Frogzoo> jcorz25_: I'm sure there must be hundreds
[06:27] <seba> witam, mam panowie problem z internetem
[06:27] <seba> moze mi ktos pomoc?
[06:27] <plunder> ic56, It's a normal HD
[06:27] <Frogzoo> seba: what language do you speak?
[06:27] <_jason> plunder: can you paste the mount command?
[06:27] <arrick> !english
[06:27] <ubotu> arrick: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:27] <gnomefreak> i saw a post about intel chipset webcams (getting them working on ubuntu)
[06:27] <oskude> jcorz25_, this could help too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:27] <_jason> plunder: and/or fstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:28] <arrick> seba: we dont understand your language
[06:28] <schloob> Frogzoo: ah, i've got it. thanks :)
[06:28] <gnomefreak> it was on ubuntuforums.org
[06:28] <ic56> plunder: this is wierd.  did you setup the mount yourself or did Ubuntu do it automatically?
[06:28] <seba> sprechen Sie Deutsch?
[06:28] <plunder> the mound commands are correct, as are the fstab stuff
[06:28] <oskude> !de
[06:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:28] <plunder> I did it myself with help from some people
[06:28] <_jason> plunder: ok, just wanted to make sure, but if you are confident that is not the problem, I don't know what else to try
[06:28] <jcorz25_> oskude: thanx
[06:29] <plunder> how can I send the problem over that //paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[06:29] <ic56> plunder: the commands may have been correct but if you don't tell us what commands you used, how can we help you?
[06:29] <plunder> I have my whole text ready, but there is no send buttom
[06:29] <plunder> one second I will copy paste them
[06:29] <_jason> plunder: the send button is up top next to name
[06:30] <plunder> sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /media/hd3 -t vfat -o umask=000
[06:30] <plunder> that was my command
[06:30] <_jason> plunder: is there anything in fstab?
[06:31] <plunder> _jason, all info is now on pastebin of the link you gave
[06:31] <plunder> also the fstab is there
[06:31] <ic56> plunder: what is that link please?
[06:31] <plunder> I pasted under the name "plunder" =)
[06:32] <plunder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11055
[06:32] <arrick> Plunde thanks
[06:32] <arrick> plunder, thanks
[06:32] <GudyUbuntu_> VR_, I thought it would work ...
[06:32] <plunder> sorry for the crappy layout =)
[06:34] <_jason> plunder: got me, I'm stumped
[06:34] <twirpie> mkay i have all my audio and video setup and working great, i have burning cd and vcd all setup. pretty much all my multimedia needs are done. question is what else can i do with ubuntu?
[06:34] <GigaClon> anything you want
[06:34] <void^> plunder: does fdisk show hdb twice or is it just pasted twice?
[06:34] <xai> I installed 5.10 on a linux-certified laptop. When I start icewm, my virtual consoles go crazy when I go back. I can only see 2 lines of text, but i think getty is restarting in continously. I can still type "startx" from the originating console, but I can't ever get back to a stable console.
[06:35] <twirpie> been trying to get clamav to work even though i was told it wasnt needed but it says its a level 6 and level 7 is needed what do i do?
[06:35] <AnsiC> hello
[06:35] <GudyUbuntu_> VR_, but when running "make " (configure finaly worked), I'm getting this error : ffmpeg.c:49:44: erreur: libpostproc/postprocess.h : Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce t ype
[06:35] <GudyUbuntu_>  (which means no file or folder found of this type)
[06:35] <plunder> void^, pasted twice
[06:35] <plunder> going to reboot
[06:36] <void^> plunder: ok, check dmesg for device errors
[06:36] <AnsiC> i'm looking for a translator English-Italian that translate best compare to google
[06:36] <oskude> plunder, you could try to use "rw" (but should be default) in options "rw,umask=000"
[06:36] <AnsiC> google make a terrible tranlating
[06:36] <crimsun> GudyUbuntu_: is libpostproc-dev installed?
[06:36] <AnsiC> translating
[06:36] <ic56> plunder: what does `mount' say for the /dev/hdb5 ?
[06:36] <christophe> slt
[06:36] <GudyUbuntu_> crimsun, yeah I tried it, didn't work, also installed libpostproc0
[06:36] <plunder> [4302520.059000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev hdb5)
[06:36] <plunder> [4302520.059000]      fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
[06:36] <plunder> [4302520.059000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev hdb5)
[06:36] <plunder> [4302520.059000]      fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
[06:37] <crimsun> GudyUbuntu_: what are you trying to compile/
[06:37] <twirpie> been trying to get clamav to work even though i was told it wasnt needed but it says its a level 6 and level 7 is needed. what do i do?
[06:37] <plunder> getting somewhere now =)
[06:37] <GudyUbuntu_> crimsun, VLC with UPnP AV support ... if you know where to get an i386 binary, I'll take it :)
[06:37] <gilianima> is there a command to run another command at a given time and during a given amount of time ?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> 'at' another time ' at command'
[06:37] <oskude> plunder, are you using breezy ?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> given amount of time - Not seen such a thing.
[06:38] <crimsun> GudyUbuntu_: upstream makes nightly binaries available
[06:38] <crimsun> GudyUbuntu_: click the 'beta' link
[06:38] <_jason> Dr_Willis: he can kill it with at after 10 minutes too, or just use sleep
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> twirpie,  you scanning your windows drives/network with clamv?
[06:38] <ic56> plunder: sounds like a corrupt filesystem.  umount it and try fsck on it.
[06:38] <GudyUbuntu_> crimsun, but I need this UPnP AV support ...
[06:38] <twirpie> tryin to install it
[06:38] <plunder> oskude, yes breezy
[06:39] <gnomefreak> !info clamav
[06:39] <ubotu> clamav: (antivirus scanner for Unix), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.87-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 188 kB
[06:39] <gnomefreak> twirpie: its in universe repo
[06:40] <gilianima> Dr_Willis: how to do that;  run "ping 192.168.0.1" at 18:45 during one minute ?
[06:40] <GudyUbuntu_> crimsun, : beta of? (are you talking of VLC?)
[06:40] <thomas> anyone know why my mplayer wont go fullscreen when i play a video in it it just stays small screen in buttomleft corner of my screen?
[06:40] <ic56> does anyone know how to make the taskbar icons smaller?
[06:40] <_jason> thomas: use xv as the video output
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> gilianima,  man ping  it has a count option
[06:40] <nathanj> how can i stop a application appearing in the window list?
[06:40] <crimsun> GudyUbuntu_: yes?
[06:41] <smetjen> didn't succeed to install a grub :(
[06:41] <GudyUbuntu_> crimsun, can't find this beta link ... I can get to a forum post, but there are windows / os x versions there ...
[06:42] <gilianima> Dr_Willis: ping was a simple example, i don't need it for the ping command especially, but for encode actually
[06:42] <plunder> ic56, see your pm
[06:42] <smetjen> someone speaks dutch?
[06:42] <crimsun> #ubuntu-nl
[06:43] <GudyUbuntu_> crimsun, I guess I found it ... developers website ...
[06:43] <ic56> plunder: I thought fsck would auto-detect the filesystem type but it didn't, or perhaps it doesn't know about FAT.  Try fsck -t vfat
[06:43] <arrick> Hey guys & gals, I used to have a vistaprint business card that i could attach in M$Outlook, but the progam to install is is a .exe, is there any way I can get this into Evolution mail?
[06:43] <oskude> plunder, you could try "dosfsck" on the partition...
[06:44] <arrick> plunder you could do a dos boot, and run chkdisk
[06:44] <shaya> so I've moved an old laptop from an old unstable to dapper.  Its working, but there are old unstable packages that have higher versions than dapper
[06:44] <shaya> anyway to list those?
[06:44] <shaya> i.e. in aptitude or something?
[06:45] <arrick> shaya, go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[06:45] <crimsun> shaya: not easily [unless only Ubuntu's main was involved] 
[06:46] <plunder> plunder@55pc202:/$ sudo dosfsck /dev/hdb5/
[06:46] <plunder> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[06:46] <plunder> open /dev/hdb5/:Not a directory
[06:46] <shaya> arrick: this isn't a dapper Q
[06:46] <shaya> I already did the transition
[06:46] <shaya> just need to list which packages didn't get transitioned
[06:46] <arrick> ok
[06:46] <shaya> i.e. which packages have a higher rev installed
[06:46] <twirpie> okay im trying to get clamav going just for giggles but i get this error when i clamfresh to update defanisions.....
[06:46] <shaya> is there a way to list that/
[06:46] <void^> plunder: /dev/hdb5 is not a directory
[06:46] <twirpie> ERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
[06:46] <Storkme> how can i make a program use gcc-3.4 instead of gcc-4.0 ?
[06:46] <twirpie> any ideas?
[06:46] <ic56> plunder: remove the trailing slash.
[06:47] <trappist> twirpie: sudo freshclam
[06:47] <crimsun> shaya: again, not easily. There's probably deselect or apt-cache policy finagling that can be done, but it will require scripting.
[06:47] <twirpie> oh crap sorry :)
[06:47] <crimsun> dselect^
[06:47] <plunder> ic56, in your PM again (so I don't mess up the room)
[06:47] <twirpie> thanks trappist :)
[06:48] <shaya> hmm
[06:48] <arrick> Is there a Trig program out there for ubuntu that I can use for College?
[06:48] <Metallitux> anyone seen a driver for enabling the extra buttons on wireless m$ keyboard and mouse?
[06:49] <ic56> plunder: so, did fsck -t vfat exit immediately and you're showing me output from dosfsck?
[06:49] <Storkme> how can i compile with gcc-3.4 instead of 4.0?
[06:49] <arrick> something similar to the TI-83 Graphing Calculator?
[06:49] <trappist> arrick: there are ti calculator emulators for linux
[06:49] <void^> Storkme: try export CC=gcc-3.4
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  chech freshmeat.net
[06:50] <arrick> ok
[06:50] <plunder> ic56, the fsck -t vfat was an accident, you may ignore that, this is output of dosfsck
[06:50] <mojojojo_> hi there
[06:50] <Storkme> thanks void^
[06:51] <trappist> arrick: calcoo is pretty ok too
[06:51] <arrick> ok
[06:51] <ic56> plunder: well, dosfsck did find a problem in your boot sector and is now asking you what it should do.  Try 3 - no action.  If you're unlucky, you'll have to repeat this multiple times.  The object is to find out how badly damaged the filesystem is.
[06:51] <anika> hola
[06:53] <mojojojo_> At the moment I ran Ubuntu Gnome hangs for a couple of minutes doing nothing :(... I checke the CPU usage and it's not like anything is being processed, plus apps which I have running at autostart - they run immediately... What might be the cause? It looks as if some program is waiting for sth... Any ideas?
[06:53] <gabbah> is there a way to get the taskbar entires to have a fixed width instead of taking up all the space available?
[06:53] <gabbah> like in windows.
[06:53] <DBO> gabbah, you can set their size in their preferences
[06:54] <plunder> ic56, still one this message, but it's not done searching yet
[06:54] <ic56> plunder: if it turns out that the boot sector is the only problem, then make a backup copy of it with dd, re-run dosfsck, and tell it to overwrite it, this time, with the backup.  Then fsck again and, if no errors, mount it and see if things work.  If they don't restore the original boot sector from the copy you made with dd and try chkdsk under windows or try a commercial windows utility.
[06:54] <DBO> right click on the little bar... oh darn cant describe, its a little bar on the left of your first entry
[06:54] <DBO> and go to preferences
[06:54] <gabbah> DBO, i don't see no preference in the context menu?
[06:54] <plunder> ic56, yes only that problem is there
[06:55] <gabbah> DBO, found it
[06:55] <DBO> good, now tell me how to describe it...
[06:55] <arrick> Hey guys & gals, I used to have a vistaprint business card that i could attach in M$Outlook, but the progam to install is is a .exe, is there any way I can get this into Evolution mail?
[06:55] <plunder> ic56, I only have ubuntu atm (my windows was a bit really really really really broken)
[06:55] <ic56> plunder: well, seeing as you already overwrote the original boot sector.  Try dosfsck again -- are all problems gone?
[06:56] <gabbah> DBO, lol.. i think like you said was the best way actually :P
[06:56] <DBO> gabbah, I was afraid that was the case
[06:56] <plunder> ic56, nope =( I just installed ubuntu, I'm afraid the problem was already there when I was running windows
[06:56] <solid_liq> can I install a package built for debian on ubuntu?
[06:57] <DBO> yes
[06:57] <ic56> plunder: so the problem persists?
[06:57] <solid_liq> DBO: I should prefer one built for debian 3.1 over 3.0?
[06:57] <DBO> yes
[06:57] <arrick> plunder: are you trying to keep windows?
[06:57] <plunder> ic56, could it work to boot on a bootdisk of windows and do a chkdsk
[06:58] <arrick> plunder, yes
[06:58] <plunder> I have no windows anymore
[06:58] <arrick> plunder, so you are wiping the partitions right?
[06:58] <solid_liq> DBO: it's a package for kolab though, could that be a problem since it depends upon postfix, cyrus-imap, openldap, sasl and apache?
[06:58] <DBO> only if you dont already have those installed
[06:59] <LinuxNoob> How do I change Icons ?
[06:59] <oskude> solid_liq, AFAIK, ubuntu is based on debian unstable/sid ...
[06:59] <solid_liq> DBO: you don't think there'll be any version conflicts?
[06:59] <arrick> !icons
[06:59] <ubotu> If you have missing icons after upgrading to Breezy, change theme at System -> Preferences -> Theme
[06:59] <plunder> arrick, no I'm trying to mount a partition, bu it seems like the bootsector of that HD is broken
[06:59] <ic56> plunder: it is very difficult to help you if you don't tell us what is happening.  Does the problem persist when you run dosfsck again? Is it identical or is it now different?
[07:00] <DBO> solid_liq, the dependancies should include versions IIRC
[07:00] <arrick> use the windows boot disk and run chkdisk, it will tell you if the disk is any good anymore
[07:00] <DBO> (if it matters)
[07:00] <plunder> ic56, it is the same problem, is not solved
[07:00] <solid_liq> DBO: sweet, thanks!
[07:00] <ic56> plunder: it's not the bootsector of the HD but of the partition.  They are different things in different places on the disk.
[07:00] <DBO> solid_liq, have you considered using a repository instead?
[07:01] <arrick> ic56, is this a different disk alltogether, or is it an additional partition?
[07:01] <plunder> it is 1 partition on 1 diffrent HD
[07:01] <solid_liq> DBO: I don't know where I could find one for kolab.  Is there any way to search for one?
[07:01] <plunder> But I really gotta go now; I thank you all for your help!!!
[07:02] <arrick> are there other partitions that mount on the same drive?
[07:02] <plunder> (I'm already 1 hour late)
[07:02] <ic56> plunder: this makes no sense.  Let's recap.  You ran dosfsck on /dev/hdb5.  It said the boot sector differed from its backup copy and offered you a choice of options.  You chose to overwrite the master copy with the backup.  Thus the two should now be identical.  Now, you run dosfsck again and it *still* says the two are different ???
[07:02] <DBO> solid_liq, Im sure there is, just not sure how...
[07:02] <Se7h> o.0
[07:02] <plunder> ic56, yes
[07:02] <solid_liq> DBO: k, thanks
[07:02] <mumbles> ?
[07:03] <_harm> hi all, does some one know a way to get games, such as cs1.6, running without cedega?
[07:04] <oskude> plunder, and why do you have that partition as extended partition ?
[07:04] <Seveas> _harm, yes, use windows..
[07:04] <arrick> can I run thei chat room from a windows platform, Iw ant to work on my XP install, while I watch this chat and learn
[07:04] <_harm> ok.. thank you seveas... any other ideas that arnt useless?
[07:04] <jbroome> what?
[07:04] <plunder> Sory I have to go now =(
[07:05] <hedge> lol
[07:05] <arrick> later plunder
[07:05] <Seveas> _harm, it's either wine, cedega or windows.
[07:05] <ic56> plunder: if you're in a hurry, this is a bad time to be working on it.  You will be tempted to take shortcuts and will cause things to get worse.
[07:05] <plunder> thank you for your help!!
[07:05] <ic56> plunder: one more thing:
[07:05] <plunder> ic56, I was already meddling with this problem for a couple of hours
[07:05] <DBO> _harm... or if you could try vmware...
[07:05] <ic56> plunder: you could, instead of trying to repair it, just copy all the files into a different place, then just format the partition.
[07:06] <_harm> DBO.. ill try that
[07:06] <arrick> yeah, thats my suggestion
[07:06] <ic56> plunder: seeing as you are able to read-only mount.
[07:06] <DBO> _harm, it will be slow as all getout
[07:06] <plunder> =)
[07:06] <arrick> thanks ic56, I didnt want to interfere much more than I already had
[07:07] <plunder> ic56, thank you for your advise, I'll take it with me. Sounds like a good option (tho as last resort) and thank you for all other advise you gave!
[07:07] <plunder> gone now
[07:07] <_harm> DBO i dont want it to be slow :S
[07:08] <DBO> then the only options are Wine, Cedega (wich you can compile from CVS for free), or Windows...
[07:08] <DBO> sorry
[07:08] <arrick> can I run thei chat room from a windows platform, Iw ant to work on my XP install, while I watch this chat and learn
[07:08] <jbroome> arrick: yes, there are windows irc clients
[07:09] <Seveas> arrick, sure, get x-chat for windows 
[07:09] <twirpie> deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu hoary how do i add this from the terminal?
[07:09] <_harm> DBO free cedega? thats intresting.. anyplace ican read up on that?
[07:09] <jbroome> or hydrairc
[07:09] <DBO> yes, in the forums
[07:09] <DBO> lemme see if I can find the linkers
[07:09] <hawaisurf> hi! what about to install skype on ubuntu? I read somewhere that one have to mess with the kernel....can I fix it easy somehow?
[07:09] <_harm> DBO much appreciated :)
[07:10] <oskude> twirpie, its for hoary, are you using hoary ?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell hawaisurf about skype
[07:10] <jbroome> !skype
[07:10] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[07:10] <twirpie> yes
[07:10] <gnomefreak> hawaisurf: use the deb link
[07:10] <twirpie> i need to add to source.list
[07:10] <oskude> twirpie, omg, ok the "lines" are stored in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:10] <rambo3> gnomefreak any idea on dapper upgrade that i posted in ubuntu+1 ?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> twirpie: it is not recommended to use it instead use Seveas repo
[07:10] <gnomefreak> rambo3: hold on let me see it
[07:11] <Seveas> gnomefreak, I heard skype fixed their .deb
[07:11] <hawaisurf> gnomefreak: ok thx.
[07:11] <twirpie> seveas repo? whats that?
[07:11] <DBO> _harm
[07:11] <DBO> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine
[07:11] <DBO> use at your own risk
[07:11] <LinuxNoob> If i want to extract a tar file to the folder: usr/share/themes    What do I write?
[07:11] <quellhorst> I do apt-cache search. but it cant find lighttpd... how can i install Package: lighttpd (1.4.11-3ubuntu1) [universe] 
[07:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell twirpie about Seveas
[07:12] <gnomefreak> ty Seveas
[07:12] <twirpie> k but how do i edit sources.list? seems it wont let me type in it
[07:12] <arrick> thanks seaveas
[07:12] <arrick> seveas
[07:13] <gnomefreak> twirpie: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:13] <twirpie> thx
[07:13] <sfar> "and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky" <- what does that echoing-thing do? (automatix)
[07:13] <oskude> twirpie, you need root rights outside your home directory so use "sudo" before your command (or gksudo;)
[07:13] <intelikey> E: totem could not start.             trying to play *.mpg
[07:13] <arrick> for super user do
[07:13] <LinuxNoob> If i want to extract a tar file to the folder: usr/share/themes    What do I write?
[07:13] <intelikey> is this a common thing ?
[07:14] <Falstius> sfar, it assumes those are the correct answers to whatever question might being asked.  the echo feeds in the characters as input.
[07:14] <gnomefreak> Seveas: is playboy repo still down?
[07:14] <oskude> LinuxNoob, sure you need to extract that file ? try dragging the file to the theme manager
[07:14] <GNU_Style> gnomefreak, theres a playboy repo?
[07:14] <Seveas> gnomefreak, not down at all
[07:14] <tristanmike> !tar
[07:14] <gnomefreak> i cant seem to pull nothing from it
[07:14] <GNU_Style> really?
[07:14] <GNU_Style> wats in there?
[07:15] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about tar
[07:15] <gnomefreak> ok let me see what i can do here than
[07:15] <intelikey> i've got w32codecs installed,  why cant totem start ?
[07:15] <Seveas> gnomefreak, errors->pastebin
[07:15] <LinuxNoob> oskude, : Not this 1 :(
[07:15] <rambo3> fedora core annd firefox
[07:15] <GNU_Style> porn software?
[07:15] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: just check you're pm from ubotu for all the tarry goodness
[07:15] <gnomefreak> Seveas: i will when i get them again
[07:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell GNU_Style about Seveas
[07:15] <oskude> LinuxNoob, you should have got a pm from ubot about tar, read it
[07:16] <idefix> is it already possible to use your webcam live with GAIM?
[07:16] <GNU_Style> gnomefreak, wat has playboy have to do with that?
[07:16] <intelikey> trying to use vlc it returns "could not add application to application database"   ?
[07:16] <gnomefreak> GNU_Style: its the name of the repo not naked women
[07:16] <DBO> idefix, not yet
[07:17] <julian> Hi. Whenever I restart to WinXP after rebooting from Ubuntu, XP crashes in the user logon screen... any ideas?
[07:17] <GNU_Style> gnomefreak, ohh
[07:17] <intelikey> julian power off first.
[07:17] <intelikey> julian soft reboot doesn't clear all code from ram.
[07:17] <gnomefreak> ok it was only erroring with that one package :( i will open synaptic in a few and try again
[07:18] <LinuxNoob> oskude, : ok but if i want to files extracted to a folder...   /user/share/themes ?
[07:19] <julian> thanks intelikey but I used to be able a few months ago, then I formatted, reinstalled ubuntu, and now I have this problem
[07:19] <arrick> LinuxNoob, cd /user/share/themes
[07:19] <arrick> then perform the extraction
[07:19] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you need to use "sudo"
[07:19] <intelikey> somebody tell me why .mpg files wont play ?
[07:19] <arrick> no plugins
[07:19] <ompaul> !tell intelikey about restricted
[07:19] <intelikey> arrick which plugin ?
[07:19] <arrick> ubutu: tell intelikey about restricted
[07:20] <oskude> LinuxNoob, doesnt just adding the dir where to extract as the last argument work ? man page says about "-c /path/where/to/extract/"
[07:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: the only way to write to any folder outside of your /home folder you must use "sudo" however, there is a "themes" folder in your home folder, but it's "/.themes"  notice the "." that means it's hidden
[07:20] <arrick> did it post to you intelikey ?
[07:20] <arrick> ompaul, thanks
[07:20] <gnomefreak> anyone know how to use the quote function in sylpheed gtk2?
[07:21] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : so how do i copy it there?
[07:21] <Stormx2> how can i tell what apps are using the net?
[07:21] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: so if you "show hidden files and folders" you should see it, and you can install your themes there, there is also one called "/.icons"
[07:21] <hedge> I have been trying to get Kino to work with my camcorder on ieee 1394, I read in the forums that only root could access the 1394, so tried Kino as root and still can not connect to the camers. Has anyone had the same trouble or know of a work around?
[07:21] <ompaul> arrick, well there was a somebody there
[07:21] <arrick> ok
[07:21] <intelikey> no.  ompaul beet you to it.  but that is not what i'm asking about.  i know about w32codecs i have them installed.   why cant vlc or totem open ?
[07:22] <intelikey> arrick ^
[07:22] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: I missed it, is it just a tar? or a tar.gz or tar.bz2, sorry I missed it above and can't locate
[07:22] <arrick> intelikey, it was ompaul that
[07:22] <arrick> ok sorry
[07:22] <gnomefreak> crap 13hours:(
[07:22] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : tar.gz
[07:22] <UsefulIdiot> Anyone familiar with dual booting ubuntu and osx on ppc?
[07:23] <baconbacon> pers. i use gxine for videos w/ w32codecs
[07:23] <Stormx2> How can I check what applications are using the internet?
[07:23] <gnomefreak> !dualboot
[07:23] <ubotu> hmm... dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:23] <gnomefreak> ^^^ you should find it there
[07:23] <UsefulIdiot> Im on an ibook
[07:23] <oskude> Stormx2, one way could be: netstat --inet -pa
[07:23] <LinuxNoob> ah...fixed :D
[07:23] <LinuxNoob> tnx guys
[07:24] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: so you change directory to where the tar.gz is, and you would type "tar -xvzf filename /home/<usrname>/.themes
[07:24] <tristanmike> "
[07:24] <arrick> thanks tristanmike, I needed that yesterday
[07:24] <wizardyoung> I need help,when I play rmvb files useing realplayer10,why no audio?
[07:24] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: err.... you would type "tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz /home/<usrname>/.themes" rather
[07:25] <Stormx2> I have something called "wish" open o.O apparently
[07:25] <tristanmike> !tell arrick about tar
[07:25] <Stormx2> oh its amsn
[07:25] <ompaul> UsefulIdiot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:25] <tristanmike> arrick: check you pm for a quick tar guide
[07:25] <frank23> I had a bug on Malone that disappeared. It's not in the reported by me list anymore. What could have happened?
[07:26] <LinuxNoob> So the home directory is the folder where I should put all my files, mp3, divx, avi etc ?
[07:26] <Stormx2> LinuxNoob: Depends
[07:26] <Stormx2> LinuxNoob: Usually, yes, unless you use another drive to store mp3s and videos (like I do)
[07:26] <gnomefreak> frank23: if it was duplicate it might not be by you anymore i would search the bug list for like (gnome bugs or xserver bugs) whatever your app bug was
[07:27] <ompaul> gnomefreak, dualboot now includes mac :-)
[07:27] <folki> hi, can anybody help me what codec or plugin I have to install if I want to play .wmv files?
[07:27] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul
[07:27] <arrick> tristanmike, I already had that, however, I didnt know how to change the directory, cause I was to lazy to read all of it
[07:27] <oskude> !wmv
[07:27] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:27] <LinuxNoob> Stormx2, : Ok but I only got 1 drive
[07:27] <ompaul> folki, ^^^
[07:27] <arrick> brb
[07:28] <folki> ?
[07:28] <ompaul> folki, read up the screen a few lines
[07:28] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: so you might want to create folders in your home directory, that is /home/<username>  as opposed to just /home
[07:28] <intelikey> oss error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[07:28] <intelikey> main error: couldn't find a filter for the conversion
[07:28] <intelikey> main error: couldn't set an output pipeline
[07:28] <VR_> whats a good terminal/text-based file browser?
[07:28] <intelikey> there it is.
[07:29] <ic56> How do I make taskbar icons (ideally all icons) smaller?
[07:29] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: in that case with one drive, home is pretty much where you want to keep everything
[07:29] <intelikey> now why is it doing that ?
[07:29] <gnomefreak> VR_: i use whatever terminal im in atm
[07:29] <Stormx2> LinuxNoob: Put it in your home then
[07:29] <frank23> gnomefreak: yeah it was a duplicate. I had actually referenced the other bug report but I thought it should be different because my bug was in breezy and the other in dapper. It's still annoying that I have to find it again. something should have aleerted me of that in Malone
[07:29] <VR_> gnomefreak: you're too hardcore
[07:29] <gnomefreak> cd <dir> than ls to view files or ls -a and depends what i would like to do from there
[07:30] <carbo> hi, I can't seem to access any URLs that have two consecutive dashes (http://blah--.blah.com)... how do I fix this?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> frank23: if you keep track of the numbers search the number and it will show you iirc malone is still being worked on so that might be something they will have
[07:30] <intelikey> anybody hip on this audio error ?
[07:31] <LinuxNoob> But why doesn't the themes I stored in /.themes show in  System->Preferences->themes ?
[07:31] <ic56> ic
[07:32] <intelikey> ok if not what app do you use/recomend for viewing .mpg ?
[07:33] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: they should if you restart it
[07:33] <niki> how do i check to make sure i have the newest version of java?
[07:33] <intelikey> help sure is easier to get at night!
[07:34] <ompaul> intelikey,  mplayer and why do you think you should irc as root? please quit and come back as an ordinary user
[07:34] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: did you know that the "themes" program you are talking about can do the installing for you, just click on "Install Themes" and it will extract and install for you, accepts "tar, tar.gz and tar.bz2" if I'm not mistaken, so you don't need to do the extracting yourself, if you like to however then go for it but it's not needed :)
[07:34] <intelikey> ompaul if i was root i would.
[07:35] <ompaul> hehe
[07:35] <niki> can anyone tell me how to make sure that i have the newest version of java installed?
[07:35] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Extract to ~/.themes
[07:35] <LinuxNoob> because the gnome-theme-manager may not install all themes from the tarball.
[07:35] <ompaul> intelikey, its what your whois says about you
[07:36] <folki> I have instaled all gstreamer plugins but I always cannot play .wmv files
[07:36] <gnomefreak> hes right it does say root
[07:36] <intelikey> i know.      is it mplayer-<arc>  ?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> yes
[07:36] <intelikey> k
[07:36] <gnomefreak> mplayer-386
[07:36] <carbo> why can't I access any URLs with two consecutive dashes?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> or whatever arch
[07:37] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: really, not from just a tar..? that's weird, but yeah, extract to that place you said
[07:37] <intelikey> crap that's huge.   dl 18m on dialup.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> carbo,  access with what program?
[07:37] <gnomefreak> folki: you need w32codecs
[07:37] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you may need to click on Theme Details to select your "theme" sometimes they say "theme" but usually it's just a "window boarder" or "controls" something like that
[07:37] <folki> I have installed w32codecs
[07:37] <ic56> carbo: give us an example of such a URL.  And which browser exhibits the problem?
[07:38] <carbo> Dr_Willis: firefox. It says it can't find the server
[07:38] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: it took me a while and an awful lot of installed "themes" to realize that :P
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> carbo,  and the url is?
[07:38] <DaSkreec1> helo
[07:38] <alteroo> quiet!!
[07:39] <alteroo> thats whats making the noise!
[07:39] <Maniqui> what is exactly the "chainloader+1" in the GRUB file?
[07:39] <carbo> err lets see
[07:40] <quellhorst> how can i install http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/lighttpd ?
[07:40] <quellhorst> do i need to change my apt sources?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Maniqui,  tells grub to load that drives mbr and pass controll to it. i think
[07:40] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : It didn't have a index.theme file.... maybe thats why it's so messy?
[07:41] <Maniqui> Dr_Willis, could it be related with the crashes that I have when choosing WinXP *after* rebooting from Ubuntu?
[07:41] <gnomefreak> how do you unidentify yourself from freenode without losing connection?
[07:41] <ompaul> quellhorst, you should be running dapper for that, if your not then you take a risk with it, and dapper is dev software and talk about it you should be in #unbutun+1
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Maniqui,  i doubt it
[07:41] <ompaul> quellhorst, #unbutu+1
[07:41] <folki> can anybody tell me where is the probelm when I hve installed w32codecs but I still cannot play .wmv files?
[07:41] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1
[07:42] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: perhaps, I've never gotten into making my own themes, but it was pretty confusing for me at first
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> folki,  could bhe that wmv is some codec not included yet
[07:42] <bence_> hi
[07:42] <quellhorst> ompaul: oh. Im on ubuntu breezy badger
[07:42] <ompaul> folki, did you install them as it says on the ubuntu wiki
[07:42] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: are you sorted, did you find the "theme" you were looking for ?
[07:42] <intelikey> folki if they do tell you i'm gona take notes...
[07:42] <bence_> van itt magyar?
[07:43] <folki> I used Synaptic Manager to install them
[07:43] <folki> I have installed w32codecs and all gstreamer plugins
[07:44] <nickrud> !hu
[07:44] <ubotu> it has been said that hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t.
[07:44] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Most of the theme on the site I'm looking at are uncool..... but many nice icons..... Do I install them the same way?
[07:44] <nickrud> eh, #debian.hu?
[07:44] <ompaul> quellhorst, so if you can run unstable dapper go ahead if you can't wait until the release if you want to take a chance you might get that package to run on 5.10 but frankly I would wait until it dapper is released
[07:45] <ompaul> bence_ #ubuntu-hr ?
[07:45] <quellhorst> ompaul, its required by my job to have it going and the application needs this version... the other option is to install from .tar.gz
[07:45] <ompaul> nickrud, did you fixt that
[07:46] <nickrud> ompaul, about to, I just checked to be sure it existed
[07:46] <intelikey> ubuntu is going to dapper out in about 3 months ?
[07:46] <_tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yup
[07:46] <_tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you're using gnome-look.org I assume ?
[07:46] <ompaul> quellhorst, well to compile stuff >>sudo apt-get install build essential<< before you go installing it
[07:47] <ompaul> gnomefreak, u there?
[07:47] <gnomefreak> yeah kind of
[07:47] <ompaul> see the pm from a little while ago
[07:47] <arrick> hey I'm finally on thgough XP pro
[07:47] <gnomefreak> i didnt get one
[07:47] <michoelc> hi all. last night i managed to start ubuntu for the first time. now i would like to connect to my wireless network. the ubuntu install did not recognize the card (NETGEAR WG111v2 wireless usb). it shows up in device manager as unkown usb device. any one can help me?
[07:48] <_tristanmike> arrick: you're on xp pro? this is a good thing ? :P
[07:48] <LinuxNoob> _tristanmike, : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32146    did the same thing...but how do I enable it so all the icons change?
[07:48] <arrick> _tristanmike, man I work with xp pro everyday, and I needed to set my dual boot up so I could work, but I wanted to be in here learning at the same time
[07:50] <Kasei^> Hi I am having some problem with torrentd.
[07:51] <_tristanmike> LinuxNoob: well, hmm, same way, go to "Theme Details" and select "Icons" after it's installed, but the only icons that will change are the icons in the theme, I've yet to get an icon theme that just works, it's usually missing some important thing, like an icon for "show desktop" so all I end up getting is a page with an "x" for an icon, like it's broken, but they should be there
[07:51] <JazzCrazed> hey everybody
[07:51] <arrick> !ICON
[07:51] <ubotu> arrick: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:51] <arrick> !icon
[07:51] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[07:52] <arrick> !icons
[07:52] <ubotu> If you have missing icons after upgrading to Breezy, change theme at System -> Preferences -> Theme
[07:52] <Kasei^> I mean I looked at my bro's windows screen while he was downloading siomething with azureus. And now i turned to kubuntu, and took the same torrent in bittornado. My bro's one was moving around 40 kb/s and my is 0. What is going on? I'ts not the first time when linux torrent is slower than windows one. Maybe the reasoon is that i am using old version of bittornado from respos?
[07:53] <jbroome> Kasei^: are the BT ports forwarded to your bro's computer?
[07:53] <jbroome> Kasei^: you're probably not getting through your firewall
[07:53] <arrick> hey guys, mIRC for windows is shareware, is there a freeware version anywhere that I can get for my XP client?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> free version of mirc? Ugh.
[07:53] <trappist> arrick: wrong channel man
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> I use xchat under windows.
[07:54] <jbroome> arrick: xchat or hydrairc
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> "Friends dont let friends use mIRC"
[07:54] <arrick> yeah I want to run the chat in here, so I can learn while working in xp
[07:54] <arrick> ok
[07:54] <LinuxNoob> _tristanmike, : Sweet !
[07:54] <Kasei^> jbroome, so how can i switch off firewall in kubuntu?
[07:54] <LinuxNoob> _tristanmike, : These Icons look amazing c",)
[07:54] <arrick> I odnt even like the interface of mIRC, thats why I want something else
[07:54] <jbroome> Kasei^: not in kubuntu
[07:55] <Raquelita> hola
[07:55] <Raquelita> hello
[07:55] <jbroome> Kasei^: what ever is between your broadband device and the rest of your lan
[07:55] <JazzCrazed> can i use symlink to make two hard drives appear as one samba share?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  theres free versions of xchat for windows - the 'official' windows xchat version is not free. *yes its odd*
[07:56] <trappist> in windows I just use putty to connect my screened irssi session
[07:56] <Kasei^> jbroome, so what schould i to make torrents go faster
[07:56] <Kasei^> '?
[07:56] <rkalsi> Hi Guys. first timer installing ubuntu. Got stuck at Installing the base system step...
[07:56] <arrick> Dr_Willis, you have a link for the free?
[07:56] <_tristanmike> LinuxNoob: can I have a link, I'm always on the lookout for cool icon themes :)
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  google.com :P
[07:56] <trappist> rkalsi: first guess there is 'bad cd'
[07:57] <Col> hey all
[07:57] <rkalsi> At about 6%, it complains about not being able to download smome package & then gives an error & stops
[07:57] <rkalsi> trappist, i tried with 2 different CDs
[07:57] <rkalsi> inboth cases, it gets stuck at 6%
[07:57] <LinuxNoob> _tristanmike, : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32146
[07:57] <rkalsi> so there is surely, sthing else going wrong
[07:57] <trappist> rkalsi: you burned these yourself?
[07:57] <arrick> rkalsi, did you run the checksum thing?
[07:57] <rkalsi> One via post, the other i burned frm iso..
[07:58] <trappist> rkalsi: if the cd's are good, my next guess is bad hard drive or damaged filesystem - you could try reformatting
[07:58] <rkalsi> I did,, that doesnt complain at all..
[07:58] <rkalsi> formatting seems all good.
[07:58] <jbroome> Kasei^: check out the docs for your FW to see how to forward ports
[07:58] <arrick> ok, brb
[07:58] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: tank ya =)
[07:58] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[07:58] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: wut a coincidence, i'm using those icons right now
[07:58] <trappist> rkalsi: happen to know what package and the text of the error message?
[07:58] <pounard> yop
[07:58] <rkalsi>  question ? WHat are the basic partitions needed ?
[07:59] <rkalsi> I have root, /home & swap memory
[07:59] <trappist> rkalsi: you can get away with just / - how to partition depends on how you plan to use it
[07:59] <rkalsi> trappist, the errors go of too fast, cant really tell which one is the first
[07:59] <rkalsi> it seems to be some ;libraries..
[07:59] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : They are very smooth :D
[07:59] <tristanmike> JethroTull: love the nic :)
[07:59] <JethroTull> Def.
[07:59] <JazzCrazed> yea, i'm a big fan so far
[08:00] <rkalsi> trappist: any other ideas, other than bad disk,?
[08:00] <JethroTull> I'm more of a Beatles/Bob Dylan guy though...
[08:00] <LinuxNoob> but I can't seem to change the icons in the top bar..... just that boring firefox and gaim icons
[08:00] <Arrick> ok, Dr_Willis, thats better, thanks
[08:00] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you should be able to right click, select properties, and change individually
[08:00] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: i think it's because there are no icons for it in the glass icon set
[08:01] <trappist> rkalsi: bad cdrom drive?  it totally sounds like the problem is with getting a package from the cd to the hard drive, in which case it's either the media or a hardware issue
[08:01] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: or his reason works too :P
[08:01] <patrick52222> how do i mount a usb hdd
[08:01] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: i gave the reason, u gave the solution :)
[08:01] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu Badger LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:01] <LinuxNoob> And I've install Thunderbird, but how do I put it on the top panel and in Applications -> internet?
[08:01] <trappist> rkalsi: you could try flight5 and see if you have better luck with that
[08:01] <rkalsi> flight5 ?
[08:01] <patrick52222> dapper drake flight 5
[08:01] <trappist> rkalsi: sort of a preview of the next version
[08:01] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: also, u can edit ~/.icons/glass-icons/index.theme
[08:01] <rkalsi> oh ok.
[08:02] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: if it doesn't get added after you restart the gnome panel, then you can use Applications-SystemTool-Menu Editor to add one
[08:02] <userone> hello everybody...I just found a user 'nobody' under home '/nonexistent' on my machine. Can someone explain what this is?
[08:02] <rkalsi> I am intalling 5.01 i think the breezer one..
[08:02] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : I did that but It's not possible to choose the new icons :(
[08:02] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: there's a line that says "Inherits=gnome"
[08:02] <patrick52222> how do i make ubuntu5.10 mount a usb hdd
[08:02] <trappist> userone: the nobody user has basically no privileges.  some processes run as him for security reasons.
[08:02] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: after the = sign, u can put other icon themes that it shud inherit
[08:03] <Falstius> trappist: nobody is not supposed to have a home directory though ...
[08:03] <oskude> patrick52222, it should do it automaticly when you plug it in...
[08:03] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: ...new icons? JazzCrazed suggested there are no "glass" icons for those you want
[08:03] <Karlprof> i686... software marked with that will work on i386 Ubuntu, right?
[08:03] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: i use glass icons as my main, inheriting nuoveXT-1.6 to fill in the blanks
[08:03] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : There is no menu editor there
[08:03] <yaguado> hola
[08:03] <trappist> Falstius: he has one listed in /etc/passwd but /nonexistent shouldn't exist
[08:03] <userone> trappist: thanks..for a minute there i thought spyware had come to Linux!
[08:03] <yaguado> hola
[08:03] <trappist> Falstius: unless you tell pam to create home dirs
[08:03] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: yea, there aren't any...i'm using the nuoveXT icons for FF, evolution, and gaim
[08:03] <patrick52222> it does if i restart the pc, but if i take it out then plug it bk in it doesnt show
[08:03] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: what version of Ubuntu are you using...?
[08:04] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: Hoary...or even worse....Warty ?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> Amomeba!
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> the earliest ed.
[08:04] <oskude> patrick52222, you have to unmount it before taking out!
[08:04] <patrick52222> ah no
[08:04] <Falstius> trappist: I misunderstood what he said he found, I thought he found an actuall /home/nonexcistant directory.
[08:04] <patrick52222> do i have to
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> patrick52222,  unmounting a device befor removing it - is a good idea. :P
[08:05] <Snarkfish> Helloooo!
[08:05] <patrick52222> dah wat should i do
[08:05] <trappist> Falstius: yeah the wording was a little funny
[08:05] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : ehm... the newest one
[08:05] <LinuxNoob> 5.10?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> patrick52222,  try to unmount it.
[08:06] <oskude> patrick52222, try right click on the drive icon on the desktop and select "eject" (if usb drives have that)
[08:06] <patrick52222> how, wat after i restart it
[08:06] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: then there has to be a menu editor
[08:06] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: It's called "Smeg"
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> How to get international phonetic alphabet support in OOo?
[08:06] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: can't u also right-click, go to properties, and change the individual icon there?
[08:07] <carbo> anyone knows how to fix this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=642206&highlight=dash+hyphen
[08:07] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, find a unicode font that includes them, and install it. try unifonts.org
[08:07] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: or am i thinkin bout somethin else
[08:07] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Okay.
[08:07] <Snarkfish> Hey, I don't suppose anyone here has a spare Socket-A Processor laying around? :X
[08:07] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, you touched something I'm working on, getting a fairly complete unicode set
[08:08] <Arrick> is there any way to write on line for joining the channel, and identifying at the same time?
[08:08] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: oh, yeah, for sure
[08:08] <gilianima> how to know the pid of a task launched with crontab, so that I can kill it with crontab ?
[08:08] <Arrick> one line
[08:08] <trappist> carbo: sounds like a browser bug
[08:08] <trappist> carbo: or possibly - isn't valid at the beginning of a dns name
[08:08] <nickrud> Arrick, you identify to the server network, not the channel; you can set up irssi or xchat to identify as soon as you connect to the network
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Would xfonts-intl-phonetic do it?  So is your project on that site you pointed me to?
[08:08] <carbo> trappist: it happens with both firefox and opera, and seems i'm not the only one with the problem
[08:08] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: but I'm not sure, if say you change the icon for ff in your Internet menu, but also have one on the panel or desktop, if it carries the changes over to them or if you have to do them all manually
[08:08] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ok found it, so i just fint /.thunderbird and what file?
[08:09] <Arrick> Which processor is socket A? I cant remember, I have som many of them
[08:09] <carbo> trappist: it also happens with dashes _after_ part of a url, ie. blah--.com
[08:09] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: i'm gonna see if that's the case right now :)
[08:09] <JethroTull> Can someone please help me?
[08:09] <Arrick> ok how to do that in xchat? nickrud
[08:09] <meisam> hi guys
[08:09] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[08:09] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[08:09] <meisam> how can i install sql in ubuntu?
[08:09] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, no, no, it's good info. I don't know if that font fills out unicode spots
[08:10] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: and no, it isn't...i was actually completely wrong...it seems whatever your gnome theme specifies overrides custom settings
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: unifonts.org 404d on me...
[08:10] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, I may have the name wrong, a sec
[08:10] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: which is...weird...
[08:10] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: I'm sorry I don't understand that last statement, what is "fint" ?
[08:10] <meisam> ys
[08:10] <meisam> guys
[08:10] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : So insted of Inherits=gnome    ----  Inherits=nuoveXT-1.6 ?
[08:10] <JethroTull> I need Ubuntu badger LiveCD to recognize my belkin wireless card.
[08:10] <userone> trappist: so does Ubuntu have a 'built-in' firewall? I have a hardware firewall on my router but, I was thinking, if I connect my machine to my friends network (she is currently on XP) do I need to do anything to 'protect' my machine?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> meisam: sudo apt-get install mysql
[08:10] <trappist> carbo: RFC 1034 section 3.5 says domain name labels "must start with a letter, end with a letter or digit, and have as interior characters only letters, digits, and hyphen."
[08:10] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Find hehe
[08:10] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: the point of inherit is to add another theme to use as a backup in case the theme u're using lacks certain icons
[08:10] <nickrud> Arrick, on the menu bar, Xchat->Server list, select ubuntu servers, and edit. you can set password and autojoin channels there
[08:11] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: so make sure that whatever u put in there is a theme that you have installed
[08:11] <trappist> userone: it has builtin firewalling ability but it's not firewalled out of the box
[08:11] <gnomefreak> brb
[08:11] <Falstius> carbo: if it makes you feel better, it seems to be a problem in the linux name resolution, not in firefox.
[08:11] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, http://www.unifont.org/
[08:11] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : This will work ->   Inherits=nuoveXT-1.6
[08:11] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: u shud leave gnome there, because it's the default theme, and if any theme will have all the icons, it'll be gnome
[08:11] <carbo> trappist: i know... but still there are urls out there with dashes all over, and they work fine with other OSes
[08:11] <ic56> the update icon on the task bar shows me some items that aren't available.  Their package names include words like `ubuntu1.2'.  Are these really updates for the wrong version of ubuntu (I'm on breezy -- 5.10)?  If so, why are they listed?
[08:11] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: only if you have nuovext-1.6 installed
[08:11] <userone> trappist: so what do I need to do to set that up? Is there a 'sticky' on the forums?
[08:11] <patrick52222> how i check to see if the pc doesnt think the usbhdd is still mounted
[08:11] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you just open Smeg, select the application you want to edit the icon on, and click properties, then click on the icon, it should let you browse, iirc
[08:11] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : Install :D
[08:11] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: mine says, "Inherits=nuoveXT-1.6,gnome"
[08:11] <carbo> Falstius: yeah that's what I figured... so I'm wondering if there's a fix
[08:12] <meisam> hi guys
[08:12] <trappist> userone: the rfc was later relaxed to allow a digit at the first letter.  some people will do unsupported stuff, like apostrophes in email addresses, and some client software will support it, but it's not valid per the standard.
[08:12] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: are you saying that if I change the ff icon, it won't take because the installed theme is overriding it ?
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Ah, looks good.
[08:12] <Falstius> carbo, you can add it to your /etc/hosts file with the correct address.
[08:12] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card???
[08:12] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: i'm not sure...i just tried changing the icon for gaim in my gnome panel, but it didn't change
[08:12] <oskude> patrick52222, running "mount" without any arguments, shows the mounted partitions
[08:12] <Falstius> ofcourse, that won't work depending on how DNS is set up for deviantart.com
[08:12] <carbo> Falstius: as in fix the IP address for that URL?
[08:13] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: for instance, what it's using is the gaim icon in nuovext-1.6, but the properties dialog shows it as using the custom icon i chose
[08:13] <Arrick> Nice, thanks nickrud
[08:13] <nickrud> Arrick, yw
[08:13] <Falstius> carbo, yes.  I didn't say it was a GOOD solution :)
[08:13] <Arrick> well, gotta go to school
[08:13] <patrick52222> wats this usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (
[08:13] <Arrick> yuck
[08:13] <meisam> anybody here?
[08:13] <steffen> is here anyone who know wich command that will make a folder from the terminal ?
[08:13] <carbo> Falstius: well there's still the problem of finding the IP address, since I can't ping URLs that start or end in dashes
[08:13] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: that is weird, there were icons I changed, not that particular one but I have changed icons in the menu before and they took...strange, I'm kubuntu right now so i can't check but now you've sparked my intrest so I will the first available opportunity
[08:13] <Arrick> mkdir
[08:14] <nickrud> steffen, mkdir ?
[08:14] <Jack-Dan> mdir
[08:14] <ic56> carbo: the URL names are illegal.  A "fix" would be thought of as a bug, in the open source world.  You're unlikely to find a patch that change the behaviour of the resolver libraries, though there's nothing stopping you from trying to modify the code yourself.
[08:14] <steffen> thx
[08:14] <Arrick> mkdir
[08:14] <trappist> carbo: those are not valid URLs.
[08:14] <meisam> i need to install sql oon my ubuntu
[08:14] <steffen> i just love this irc:D
[08:14] <Col> anyone know how to fix this? FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/net/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[08:14] <oskude> patrick52222, dunno (exactly) but it aint your usb hd
[08:14] <Falstius> carbo, find it on a windows box ... but trappist is probably right.  You should have a - in a URL.
[08:14] <Falstius> er shoudn't have.
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> Should Not ?
[08:14] <Jack-Dan> exit
[08:14] <patrick52222> wat would the hdd probly be
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:14] <trappist> Col: dmsg | tail
[08:14] <trappist> err dmesg | tail
[08:14] <Arrick> asin the terminator I'll be back
[08:14] <carbo> i get that they're not valid URLs :( but they're still in use and I was just hoping to access them
[08:14] <carbo> oh well
[08:14] <oskude> patrick52222, your usb device should be something like /dev/sd**
[08:15] <Col> trappist, bunch of unknown symbols
[08:15] <_jason> carbo: I had a similar problem once with a url starting with a - and was told in deviant art's channel that it was b/c linux follows some standard and it was against that standard, while ms ignores it
[08:15] <trappist> Col: where'd you get your atheros drivers?
[08:15] <meisam> any body knows how to ibstall sql
[08:15] <meisam> ?
[08:15] <oskude> patrick52222, if its the first device, it should be /dev/sda
[08:15] <meisam> on ubuntu
[08:15] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: weird again...seems to be variable... i just managed to successfully change the icon for another app in my gnome panel via the properties dialog
[08:15] <patrick52222> this /dev/sda on /media/usbdisk
[08:15] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: ....strange :P
[08:15] <oskude> patrick52222, that could be it
[08:15] <patrick52222> how do i unmount it
[08:15] <userone> trappist: thanks for your help!
[08:15] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : Works :D
[08:16] <Col> trappist,  sudo svn checkout http://svn.madwifi.org/trunk madwifi-ng
[08:16] <oskude> patrick52222, umount /media/usbdisk
[08:16] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:16] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: great, glad to hear it :)
[08:16] <meisam> SQL on ubuntu?
[08:16] <Col> trappist, following a guide on the forums
[08:16] <meisam> ANY IDEA
[08:16] <meisam> ?
[08:16] <nickrud> !lamp
[08:16] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:16] <trappist> Col: that stuff is unstable.  the madwifi drivers are available as packages in ubuntu
[08:16] <meisam> any body knows about sql on ubuntu?
[08:16] <Falstius> carbo: even replacing the '-' with '%2' doesn't seem to help.
[08:16] <JohnLennon> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:17] <Col> trappist, hmm i thought they were restricted, happen to know the package name?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> anyone know how to qoute in sylpheed-gtk2?
[08:17] <trappist> meisam: what do you mean by sql?  it's a language, not a piece of software.
[08:17] <ic56> carbo: the IP address is 69.28.181.43
[08:17] <carbo> Falstius: ah... is there no way to escape the dash or whatever its called
[08:17] <trappist> Col: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) if you have the universe repository enabled
[08:17] <oskude> meisam, try apt-cache search sql ;) what flavour sql you want ?
[08:17] <meisam> trappist i know any softwware that i can use sql
[08:17] <JohnLennon> If it's a really stupid question or something just say so.
[08:17] <JohnLennon> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:17] <nickrud> meisam, there's mysql, postgresql (sp?) you can even get oracle to work, I hear
[08:17] <trappist> meisam: sqlite, postgresql, mysql...
[08:18] <meisam> nickrud all right how can i get oracle?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> mysql beint the more well known imo
[08:18] <Col> trappist, says its already the newest version
[08:18] <trappist> nickrud: oracle supports redhat and suse I think.  and it checks.
[08:18] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ok I'm in the menu editor....So I click on the new entry and how do I choose thunderbird...
[08:18] <steffen> when i open the terminal i start in my home folder, but how do i then cd backward to usr ?
[08:18] <trappist> Col: I hope you didn't clobber it with what you installed.
[08:18] <JohnLennon> :-0
[08:18] <ic56> carbo: I used:  host -- -method-.deviantart.com   host is in the bind9-host package.  It is a tool for investigating DNS problems.
[08:18] <trappist> Col: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[08:18] <meisam> trappist do  know the differences? what if i wanna have them all?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> !oracle
[08:18] <ubotu> hmm... oracle is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Oracle10g
[08:19] <Col> trappist, heres the guide i followed
[08:19] <carbo> ic56: ah i see..
[08:19] <trappist> meisam: no, you don't know the differences.   you can have them all if you like.
[08:19] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you need an icon
[08:19] <trappist> Col: if you got it from svn you got unstable code.
[08:19] <carbo> ic56: well the ip address you obtained would be just deviantart.com not -method-.deviantart.com right?
[08:19] <meisam> trappistall right do u know the commands
[08:19] <nickrud> trappist, http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/oracle10g/index.html
[08:19] <meisam> trappist how can i install them
[08:19] <JohnLennon> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:19] <meisam> ?
[08:20] <Col> trappist, if i try and modprobe it after i install that restricted package i get the same error
[08:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: and mostly all program executeables that are shared are in /usr/bin
[08:20] <gnomefreak> meisam: sudo apt-get install mysql   will install mysql ;)
[08:20] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : I've got one for thunderbird
[08:20] <runelind> JohnLennon: find out what chipset it uses and load the appropriate drivers, if any exist
[08:20] <Col> trappist, let me uninstall the svn and try the package again
[08:20] <gnomefreak> runelind: lspci should tell you
[08:20] <meisam> gnomefreak thanks
[08:20] <gnomefreak> meisam: yw
[08:20] <steffen> when i open a terminal i start in my home folder, and from ther i can cd to folder in my home folder, but who do i then get to a folder there is not in my home folder ?
[08:20] <trappist> meisam: sudo apt-get install postgresql mysql sqlite3
[08:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: so it should be pretty straightforward, you select an icon, you point it to the executeable, and save, you're good to go
[08:21] <runelind> man this channel moves fast ;-)
[08:21] <gnomefreak> meisam: for oracle please read the wiki posted above
[08:21] <ic56> carbo: it turns out that both domains map to the same IP number.
[08:21] <Falstius> carbo: if you put the address "host" gives you in /etc/hosts it does work.  cute puppy.
[08:21] <erez> the other machine here had windows on it, and the file sharing used to work fine, but now that i have reinstall the windws there the file sharing doesn't work, but the network is connected (i connect the internet through there ) , what might be the problem?
[08:21] <Col> trappist, same error
[08:21] <JohnLennon> runelind: I Pmed you.
[08:21] <runelind> why?
[08:21] <meisam> trappist its tellin me a wierd message during installation
[08:21] <JohnLennon> Uh.... just a question...
[08:22] <carbo> Falstius: okay, hmm
[08:22] <trappist> Col: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -name ath_pci.ko
[08:22] <runelind> and I didn't get it
[08:22] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Whats the executable for ubuntu... ?  like exe files in windows
[08:22] <JohnLennon> So I find the drivers for it and put them on like a flash drive and then I use them in Ubuntu, right?
[08:22] <ic56> Falstius: yes.  /etc/hosts does not follow the DNS standard -- that facility is older than DNS.
[08:22] <tristanmike> JohnLennon: it's best to keep all questions in the channel so we can all have a shot at helping you ;)
[08:22] <JohnLennon> Oh, alright.
[08:22] <meisam> trappist its tellin me the package its not available
[08:22] <trappist> LinuxNoob: linux doesn't care so much about file extensions
[08:22] <Col> /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[08:22] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you will usually find them in /usr/bin
[08:22] <Col> trappist, /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[08:22] <carbo> ah, i think i'll use Google cache to view all these silly URLs
[08:22] <steffen> isnt here anyine who know how to cd to a folder there is not in the home folder, becuarse my terminal start in my home folder ?
[08:22] <Falstius> ic56: yeah, its an ugly workaround.  thanks for the heads up on host, I didn't know that one.
[08:23] <trappist> meisam: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[08:23] <tristanmike> trappist: he's just trying to find the executeable for a program he installed so he can get a menu entry
[08:23] <carbo> thanks for the help, Falstius, ic56
[08:23] <Falstius> steffen: cd /other/folder
[08:23] <steffen> thx
[08:23] <meisam> trappist did u get what i mean?
[08:24] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Nice :D
[08:24] <trappist> Col: maybe sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/madwifi && sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:24] <Col> meisam, have you uncommented the internet sources for apt-get?
[08:24] <trappist> meisam: yes.
[08:24] <meisam> Col i think yes
[08:25] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: usually if it's a "bin" directory, like /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin or even /bin, that's where the main executeables are located ;)
[08:25] <meisam> trappist its working and asking me to insert the cd breezy
[08:25] <C-O-L-T> why is mplayer slower on my machine than totem, or xine ?
[08:25] <nickrud> LinuxNoob, a quicky way to find out what's executable in a package is   dpkg -l <package> | grep bin, sometimes you're lucky & there's only one
[08:25] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: /bin is for "root" specific executeables iirc, and /usr/bin is shared for anyone on the system, again, iirc
[08:25] <trappist> C-O-L-T: could be a lot of things.  could be it's using a software vo driver and the other aren't, or it's using different codecs, etc.
[08:25] <UsefuLldiot> what is edubuntu?
[08:26] <tristanmike> nickrud: thanx :)
[08:26] <mve> can anyone help me add m4a files to the Amarok collaction?
[08:26] <nickrud>  /bin is for apps that need to be available, even if usr is not mounted
[08:26] <nickrud> like nano :)
[08:26] <C-O-L-T> trappist: but everybody says that mplayer is the best and sometimes I need it's webbrowser plugins but it plays so slow like on a pentium I
[08:26] <Col> trappist, hmm ath_hal will modprobe but ath_pci wont..
[08:26] <Col> trappist, still unknown symbols
[08:26] <trappist> C-O-L-T: I use mplayer for everything
[08:26] <tristanmike> nickrud: is that -l an "L" or an | ?
[08:26] <meisam> trappist friend what is the difference between the server one and the sql
[08:27] <Col> trappist, want a PM of dmesg | tail?
[08:27] <LinuxJones> UsefuLldiot: it's a terminal services project for educational institutions
[08:27] <trappist> Col: it could be those modules are just busticated, but I haven't heard the problem before
[08:27] <C-O-L-T> trappist: you use with the basic settings. You install and works without probelms?
[08:27] <nickrud> heh, typo, you beat me tristanmike it's -L and the pipe
[08:27] <trappist> Col: sure, but I doubt it'll help much
[08:27] <nickrud> dpkg -L <package> | grep bin
[08:27] <tristanmike> nickrud: capital ? or doesn't matter ?
[08:28] <UsefuLldiot> CAn i use apt to update edubuntu to regular ubuntu? accidentally downloaded wrong iso :X
[08:28] <LinuxNoob> Finally things are looking good here.... now I just need cool programs :D
[08:28] <nickrud> tristanmike, does matter, capital L ; lower case l lists packages matching the file glob ; dpkg -l gnome*
[08:28] <C-O-L-T> trappist: what should I do? Configure it, there are a lot of video and sound drivers in it. Switching to other could help ?
[08:28] <tristanmike> nickrud: merci beaucoup :)
[08:28] <trappist> C-O-L-T: www.linuxkungfu.org/files/home/dot_mplayer/config  <-- that's what I use
[08:28] <GigaClon> !fr
[08:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:28] <GigaClon> ;)
[08:28] <ic56> !edubuntu
[08:28] <ubotu> edubuntu is, like, an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu
[08:29] <C-O-L-T> trappist: thanks I will take a look at ti
[08:29] <trappist> C-O-L-T: for ~/.mplayer/config
[08:29] <meisam> trappist what is difference between sudo apt-get install mysql and mysql-server?
[08:29] <LinuxJones> UsefuLldiot: did you install the server or desktop ?
[08:29] <trappist> meisam: the mysql package is apparently bogus.
[08:29] <GigaClon> UsefuLldiot, just install ubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <meisam> trappist i dun get u...all right u dun have to wxplain that..i try to find it out
[08:30] <UsefuLldiot> I downloaded edubuntu dapper drake flight 5 powerpc iso
[08:30] <LinuxJones> UsefuLldiot: it's installed already ?
[08:30] <UsefuLldiot> Installing as we speak
[08:31] <GigaClon> UsefuLldiot, you should just be able to install ubuntu-desktop and be fine
[08:31] <LinuxNoob> I see that the VLC player has diferent downloads for dif linux. So which 1 for ubuntu ? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[08:31] <GigaClon> LinuxNoob, use apt-get or synaptic
[08:31] <LinuxJones> UsefuLldiot: well I suppose you could install ubuntu-desktop then do a dis-upgrade. It would be best to download the proper cd .iso though.
[08:31] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you can "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[08:31] <Sergi0> LinuxNoob just use synaptic
[08:31] <mve> can anyone help me add m4a files to the Amarok collaction?
[08:31] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about vlc
[08:31] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: check the good ole pm from ubotu
[08:32] <tristanmike> meh, nevermind that factoid is useless :P
[08:32] <steffen> do you guys know a linux game irc ?
[08:32] <pridkett> is there a standard protocol for filing bugs related to dapper?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> steffen,  Huh?
[08:32] <GigaClon> game irc?
[08:32] <tristanmike> pridkett: check out Launchpad
[08:32] <pridkett> tristanmike: just wanted to make sure
[08:32] <steffen> a irc for talking about linux games, does such one exist ?
[08:33] <naxxtor> How do I figure out what port my mobile phone is connected to?  I'm trying to use GPRS Easy Connect
[08:33] <tristanmike> pridkett: you can also check out #ubuntu+1 for all dapper related discussion in case you didn't know :)
[08:33] <twirpie> this is off topic but does anyone know how to surf the net through a proxy server for free??
[08:33] <nickrud> pridkett, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:33] <tristanmike> twirpie: take it to -offtopic then ;)
[08:33] <trainer> Hi, I'm getting a strange error trying to install a plugin for the GIMP, can anyone help me out? http://pastebin.com/629281
[08:33] <twirpie> is it not allowed here?
[08:33] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Say whats synaptic ? lol :D
[08:33] <oskude> twirpie, how about askig google exactly the same question :)
[08:34] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about Synaptic
[08:34] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: that pm is a little more informative :)
[08:34] <JohnLennon> If I have this wireless card: http://web.belkin.com/support/download.asp?download=F5D7010&lang=1&mode= can I use it on Ubuntu?????
[08:34] <ubuntu_> i am trying to resize my root partion and i was wondering if i should make the unalocated space primary or extended
[08:35] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: basically you know when you do "apt-get" stuff ? well Synaptic is the graphical "frontend" to that...gots lots of buttons and stuff to point and click :P
[08:35] <oskude> JohnLennon, have you looked here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:36] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : oh.... me like point and click :D
[08:36] <GigaClon> me too:)
[08:36] <GigaClon> its under System -> Admin
[08:36] <mve> can anyone help me add m4a files to the Amarok collaction?
[08:36] <ubuntu_> i am trying to resize my root partion and i was wondering if i should make the unalocated space primary-ex3 or extended-logic-ex3
[08:37] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: I thought you might :P
[08:37] <ubuntu_> i am trying to resize my root partion and i was wondering if i should make the unalocated space primary-ex3 or extended-logic-ex3
[08:37] <ubuntu_> anyone?
[08:38] <trainer> Can someone help me with this error message:  http://pastebin.com/629287
[08:39] <oskude> ubuntu_, primary partitions are limited to 4. there are not really another differences you need to know for linux...
[08:39] <Falstius> ubuntu_: that depends on many many things.  Although generally free extended space is more flexible than free primary space.
[08:39] <ic56> steffen: try #linux-gamers.net
[08:39] <LinuxJones> ubuntu_: how much free space will you have left over ?
[08:40] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : *doh* everything depends on thing... have to install 30 other things for vlc to be installed
[08:40] <naxxtor> how do i work out what port my phone is plugged into?
[08:40] <ubuntu_> i am resizeing the root pation to 20 gb and the rest is going to be 40gb
[08:40] <jcorz25_> oskude: got a driver for cam, thanx. what is the easiest way to install it.
[08:40] <oskude> ubuntu_, but if you have 4 primary partitions, you cant make any extended partitions anymore, so allways do only maximal 3 primary partitions
[08:40] <naxxtor> it could be /dev/ttyACM0 but it's not responding to anything
[08:41] <oskude> ubuntu_, so your gonna only have 2 partitions on your harddisk ? (remember, swap is alls 1 partition)
[08:41] <Kyn> Are there mods for ubuntu+1?
[08:42] <oskude> jcorz25_, the makers of the drivers mostly know that...
[08:42] <ubuntu_> theres window kubuntu - extra space for home and swap
[08:42] <ubuntu_> windows*
[08:42] <Col> trappist, ok, i went ot the website and grabbed the old package, make clean make, make install, and it installs ath_hal, but not ath_pci, it says module not found now =/
[08:42] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: ya gotta do whatcha gotta do :p
[08:43] <oskude> ubuntu_, seems you have used all your primary partitions, so make extended partition (and as i said, linux "doesnt care" if its primary or extended partition)
[08:43] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Well to bad the files that it depends on are not in the list... even if I search :(
[08:43] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: did you enable the universe and mulitverse ?
[08:43] <meisam> trappist back to u..the installation is finished
[08:43] <nickrud> kyncani, yes there are, why? (I'm not)
[08:43] <meisam> trappist how can i use it?
[08:43] <ic56> ubotu tell trainer about build
[08:43] <Col> can i use a .deb to install things?
[08:43] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: vlc uses some dubiously-free codecs, so u'll have to enable other repositories to access them
[08:44] <ubuntu_> oskude: thanks i will make it extended then
[08:44] <ubuntu_> :)
[08:44] <oskude> Col, yes, but be sure its for ubuntu of your choice...
[08:44] <meisam> trappist back to u..the installation is finished
[08:44] <meisam> meisam trappist how can i use it?
[08:45] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : universe and multi?
[08:45] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about universe
[08:45] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: there you go, the golden pm from ubotu :P
[08:45] <naxxtor> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0fce:d017 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB
[08:45] <naxxtor>  <-- can i use that to work out what /dev/blah entry I need to use to connect to it?
[08:46] <ladofnod> this effects all my players...video plays back with audio however the video is playing at 1/2 speed. any ideas?
[08:46] <SaNtO> #argentina
[08:47] <meisam> guys hi..i have installed the package mysql-server just now..how can i use it?
[08:47] <meisam> i mean how can i write my sql?
[08:47] <meisam> where should i write them?
[08:47] <UsefuLldiot> mysql in terminal
[08:48] <meisam> im writting but its telling me access denied
[08:48] <LadyNikon> meisam: man mysql
[08:48] <meisam> yes mysql
[08:48] <LadyNikon> meisam: mysql requires a passwd
[08:48] <LadyNikon> in console type "man mysql"
[08:48] <nickrud> !tell santo about es
[08:48] <meisam> LadyNikon i have not set any password
[08:49] <LadyNikon> meisam: you still have to log into it
[08:49] <JazzCrazed> hey mako, i remember you from the firefox 1.0 party in nyc
[08:49] <meisam> LadyNikon how?
[08:49] <trappist> LadyNikon: did you used to hang out in #mandrake?
[08:49] <LadyNikon> trappist: LOOMNNNNG time ago.
[08:49] <trappist> LadyNikon: :)
[08:49] <mako> JazzCrazed: ok
[08:49] <LadyNikon> meisam: man mysql for help
[08:50] <meisam> LadyNikon all right hols on
[08:50] <JazzCrazed> mako: your friend daf introduced me to ubuntu
[08:50] <trappist> meisam: you'll find it easier to get help if you do some research on your own first and can say "I read this and tried this but this happened"
[08:51] <meisam> trappist u r right..but when sth is wierd to me..?!?!?
[08:51] <LadyNikon> its just alot easier.. that and I am a newb to mysql
[08:51] <LadyNikon> sth?
[08:51] <trappist> meisam: google is your friend
[08:51] <meisam> something
[08:52] <meisam> trappist sure...sorry
[08:52] <meisam> trappist im sorry
[08:52] <LadyNikon> meisam: thats why can use man mysql.. if that gets crazy ( which it can) try googling something like mysql howto.. or something
[08:52] <meisam> trappist LadyNikon sure
[08:52] <newbuntie> anyway to listen to wax files?
[08:52] <trappist> newbuntie: I never heard of a wax file
[08:53] <newbuntie> it's the extention you get when trying to listen to npr on internet, if you chose windows media
[08:53] <shimmmy> newbuntie: use mplayer
[08:53] <naxxtor> ugh - i can detect my phone with lsusb, but i still have no idea how to talk to it with GPRS Easy Connect, because I can't find out what port it's sitting on!
[08:53] <trappist> newbuntie: your best but is to install w32codecs and try mplayer
[08:53] <LadyNikon> newbuntie: i listen to npr.. some of the stations crash IE' heh
[08:53] <trappist> *bet
[08:53] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Think I got It, but still VLC doesnt install
[08:55] <JazzCrazed> is anyone in here using mythtv and the mythvideo and mythmusic plugins?
[08:55] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: hmm....what's a brief discription of the error ?
[08:55] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Needs some lib5 file or something. Search but didnt find the file
[08:56] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: do a "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and copy all of that and post it on pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/) and paste that link here for us to see
[08:58] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11061
[08:59] <LadyNikon> Where is the kernel located?
[08:59] <trappist> in /boot
[08:59] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: ok, those are wrong....did you check the link ubotu sent you about "universe" ?
[08:59] <LadyNikon> I want to set up vpnc on my laptop but you have add the path of the kernel to it.
[08:59] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: well, not "wrong" but not up to their full potential
[08:59] <HedgeMage> LadyNikon: in /boot, and in /usr/src/linux/arch/<your architecture>/boot/
[08:59] <LadyNikon> HedgeMage: thanks
[09:00] <HedgeMage> LadyNikon: are you looking for the *kernel* or the *kernel*source* ?
[09:00] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: go here
[09:00] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: woops, go here...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[09:01] <LadyNikon> HedgeMage: probably the source
[09:01] <jcole> um, i have lvm installed on breezy where it installed lilo... for some reason, after upgrading the kernel and running lilo, my system will not boot... i've booted and chrooted using the livecd and trying to fugure out how to fix this
[09:01] <jcole> figure
[09:01] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : and ?
[09:01] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: when you get there, do this "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak"
[09:01] <LadyNikon> why did you say *kernel* like that?
[09:01] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: in a terminal of course ;)
[09:02] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : ok and?
[09:02] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: then "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  then copy everything on that link I gave you, and paste it over everything in your sources.list
[09:02] <jcole> LadyNikon: me?
[09:03] <JazzCrazed> i'm trying to chmod -R a folder and its contents... i don't get any errors, but the chmod doesn't seem to bear an effect...anybody have an idea why that might be?
[09:03] <evilmonkey> hi, i am tryinf to install java sun sdk 1.4 onto breezy, but i am having a few problems, anyone know a good tut for installing it?
[09:03] <cdubya> so I have asked this before, but I'm hoping I can get a more clear understanding.....I'm running FF 1.5 from a verbatim install according to the wiki......but I abandoned it due to constant hangs and slowness. I've had some tell me it's flash and java's fault. My question is why does it work fine in Epiphany then when it's looking to the same plugins?
[09:03] <jcole> JazzCrazed: sudo chmod -R $USER:$USER {dir}
[09:03] <JazzCrazed> jcole: did that, but still had no effect
[09:04] <jcole> JazzCrazed: -R is recursive
[09:04] <JazzCrazed> i kno, thas y i used it
[09:04] <JazzCrazed> cause it's a folder
[09:04] <jcole> JazzCrazed: do you want chown (not chmod)?
[09:04] <JazzCrazed> i think chmod since i want to share this folder via samba
[09:04] <jcole> JazzCrazed: sudo chmod -R 777 $USER:$USER {dir}
[09:05] <jcole> er
[09:05] <jcole> JazzCrazed: sudo chmod -R 744 $USER:$USER {dir}
[09:05] <jcole> i'm an idiot today
[09:05] <JazzCrazed> jcole: thx, i'll try that right now
[09:05] <jcole> JazzCrazed: chmod -R 744 {dir}/
[09:05] <jcole> *sigh*
[09:05] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: how are we comming along, did you get that link pasted, oh, and by the way, make sure you don't copy the "line numbers" in the top version, use the bottom one, the one in the text box
[09:05] <cdubya> shouldn't you be able to handle all that in the samba config for the most part.....?
[09:05] <HedgeMage> LadyNikon: /usr/src/linux should be your current kernel source
[09:06] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike,  how do i exit and save
[09:06] <MonsieurBon> good evening
[09:06] <ernz> Holy crap! I left this running all night
[09:06] <jessy_> je vais regarder la nouvelle star
[09:06] <trappist> HedgeMage: no
[09:06] <ernz> My bad
[09:06] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: when that's done, save the file by hitting ctrl+x  then enter to save as the current file name.  Then when all that's done, do this "sudo apt-get update"
[09:06] <newbuntie> when you install mplayer in synaptic, is the default skin blue with this tiny control panel?
[09:07] <pierre__> hello.
[09:07] <MonsieurBon> can I somehow tell apps like eog or evince to open with a maximised window instead of such a tiny one?
[09:07] <pierre__> i've just installed ubuntu linux v5.10
[09:07] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Done :D
[09:07] <trappist> the only way to get the actual source of your running kernel is to apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:07] <HedgeMage> trappist: long time no see
[09:07] <tristanmike> newbuntie: you need to add skins to /usr/share/mplayer/Skin
[09:08] <pierre__> how can i enable the middle button in firefox for scrolling as in windows?
[09:08] <newbuntie> tristanmike: how?
[09:08] <JazzCrazed> jcole: i did that, with no error, and i still get permission denied trying to access the folder
[09:08] <trappist> HedgeMage: hudat
[09:08] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: after the "sudo apt-get update" try installing again
[09:08] <HedgeMage> trappist: silly me, I am not used to this downloading a kernel binary thing yet
[09:09] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, you're trying to share a folder via samba for access from another machine?
[09:09] <tristanmike> newbuntie: find a skin you like, download and extract to desktop and then in a terminal "sudo cp ~/Desktop/<file> /usr/share/mplayer/Skin" and you should be good to go
[09:09] <tristanmike> newbuntie: where <file> is the exact name of the skin file
[09:09] <JazzCrazed> jcole: ultimately, yea, but i right now i'm trying to access the folder as another user on the local machine
[09:10] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ok ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11063
[09:10] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, and the ownership and perms are correct on the dir?
[09:10] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: close either Synaptic or Update Manager
[09:10] <JohnLennon> Whoever referred me to that list of wireless cards compatible with Linux, THAANNNKKK YOUUUUU!
[09:10] <jcole> JazzCrazed: sudo chmod -R 744 {dir}/
[09:11] <JazzCrazed> jcole: apparently they aren't...here's what ls -l shows: drwx------ 115 administrator administrator 16384 2006-03-29 13:33 JAZZYFLICKS
[09:11] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: when you run "apt-get" you can't have Synaptic or the Update Manager open, they are virually the same thing
[09:11] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Its starting to download... do i need to do the sudo thing again?
[09:11] <pierre__> so, noone knows?
[09:11] <Falstius> jcole:  you need to have excute rights on the directories in order to list their contents.
[09:11] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: no, just wait to see if errors, should work :)
[09:11] <trappist> Falstius++
[09:11] <prxq> hello. Is there a way to repartition my hard drive without wiping/reinstalling ubuntu?
[09:11] <JazzCrazed> oops, i just realized it was cdubya who asked me, not jcole :)
[09:11] <trappist> chmod a+rX dir
[09:11] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ok so how does this help me with VLC player?
[09:11] <LinuxNoob> :D
[09:11] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: rather, yes, sorry, after you closed Synaptic run "sudo apt-get update" again, sorry
[09:12] <JazzCrazed> jcole: thx, but i did that already
[09:12] <GNU_Style> whats the gnome version of SUDO and KDESU?
[09:12] <jcole> JazzCrazed: look at trappist comment
[09:12] <trappist> GNU_Style: gksu I think
[09:12] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: is it a file on a fat partition?
[09:12] <GNU_Style> trappist, will try
[09:12] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, np. try what jcole said - sudo chmod -R 744 /dir
[09:12] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: did "sudo apt-get update" work this time ?
[09:12] <newbuntie> does anyone know which mplayer skin is most like media player classic? ( the open source player for windows)
[09:12] <oskude> GNU_Style, gksudo (afaik)
[09:12] <JazzCrazed> trappist: no error, but still permission denied
[09:12] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, and make sure that you've added that user via smbpasswd
[09:12] <JazzCrazed> falstius: yes, it is a fat drive - a usb drive, in fact
[09:12] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : yes
[09:13] <pierre__> please help me: how can i enable the middle button in firefox for scrolling as in windows?
[09:13] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: ok, try "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[09:13] <jcole> JazzCrazed: doh!
[09:13] <JazzCrazed> falstius: auto-mounted into /media/
[09:13] <Falstius> trappist: +X adds +x to directories only?  cool ... I usually used find -type ;)
[09:13] <JazzCrazed> cdubya: done and done
[09:13] <cdubya> heh
[09:13] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: you need to change the mount options.
[09:13] <JazzCrazed> cdubya: but that's for when i finally add this to smb.conf, right?
[09:13] <MonsieurBon> no one knows about the apps?
[09:14] <trappist> pierre__: I doubt you can
[09:14] <JazzCrazed> falstius: in fstab?
[09:14] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, smbpasswd always got me when I setup new samba users....forgot to do it and was banging my head till I realized I forgot to do that.....added them and it worked fine. Course I wasn't using the setup you are with a different drive.....;)
[09:14] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: well, if it is automounted I'm not sure how to do it.  I mean, I know how to do it once but it won't take effect when you plug it in again.
[09:14] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : It's downloading :D Me like
[09:14] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about components
[09:15] <pierre__> trappist: pfff... i'm disappointed about linux's power
[09:15] <JazzCrazed> cdubya: trudat...in fact, i btr make sure i did it now that i think about it :)
[09:15] <trappist> pierre__: mkay
[09:15] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: check out that pm from ubotu for some good reading
[09:15] <prxq> so, no way of repartitioning a hard drive without reinstalling?
[09:15] <Falstius> prxq: huh?  toss in a live CD and run gparted.
[09:15] <trappist> pierre__: how about this for power: if you don't like it, you have the source code.  fix it.
[09:15] <JazzCrazed> falstius: i think i could add it to fstab, no? tho i do kno that auto-mounted usb drives can have their mount point changed via the properties dialog
[09:15] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: when it's done with no errors you should find VLC in Applications-Sound&Video-VLC
[09:15] <LinuxNoob> I'll bookmark it and read it later.... got to make dinner.... at 21.15 haha
[09:15] <naxxtor> is there no way to find out what device (/dev/) a USB device is sitting on?  and test it?
[09:16] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: if you do it in fstab it won't automount though I believe.
[09:16] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: I recommend :)  did you get it ?
[09:16] <pierre__> trappist: i'll try
[09:16] <JazzCrazed> falstius: but it will mount on boot, or after i run "mount -a," right?
[09:16] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: vlc that is ?
[09:16] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: yes it will
[09:16] <JazzCrazed> falstius: i won't be removing the usb drive, so it's no big deal :)
[09:16] <JazzCrazed> falstius: ok, thx, i'll try that
[09:16] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, ; Yes... tnx mate :D
[09:16] <Falstius> what is the point of having a usb drive if you don't remove it ...
[09:16] <pierre__> trappist: but if i'll fail, i'm going to switch back to windows...
[09:17] <oskude> naxxtor, you could try "lsusb", but i dont know if it shows the /dev/ device...
[09:17] <naxxtor> i've got this K600i sitting on a usb cable, and i have no idea how to work out where it is, so i can put the port into another program which supposedly supports this phone
[09:17] <prxq> Falstius: there's a catch. My CD drive is in very bad shape. I had to sweat bug time to install ubuntu in the first place (it had to be the network install mini iso, and that had to be booted many times before it worked).
[09:17] <JazzCrazed> falstius: my file server is a shuttle XPC
[09:17] <naxxtor> oskude, it doesn't, i did that earlier
[09:17] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: glad to hear it, with those sources, you should be uber-good-to-go =)
[09:17] <spiritz> when is flight 6 scheduled?
[09:17] <JazzCrazed> falstius: with no room for more than one drive...so for more drives, i use usb enclosures
[09:17] <naxxtor> i also tryed getting output of dmesg and that didn't help either
[09:17] <Falstius> anyway, you need to add umask=000 to the mount options.  Or better yet, fmask=111,dmask=000
[09:17] <oskude> naxxtor, ist it a usb flash drive ?
[09:17] <naxxtor> no, it's a phon
[09:17] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : how come its so complicated to install programs in ubuntu compared to windows?
[09:17] <naxxtor> *phone
[09:17] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: you should check out eSata if you're going to do that.
[09:17] <prxq> Falstius: so running a live cd won't necessarily work.
[09:18] <oskude> naxxtor, well, that sound like you need drivers for it...
[09:18] <JazzCrazed> falstius: for external drives?
[09:18] <naxxtor> [4300128.760000]  cdc_acm 1-1:1.3: ttyACM1: USB ACM device
[09:18] <naxxtor> that's what it says
[09:18] <JazzCrazed> jcole: thx for your help, too
[09:18] <JazzCrazed> and trappist
[09:18] <Falstius> prxq: is this a laptop?  Otherwise, I've got a whole pile of CDrom drives. You can have one if you'll come pick it up.
[09:18] <naxxtor> i'll be dammed if i can find anyone with Linux drivers for this thin
[09:18] <DBO> LinuxNoob, because you arent using synamptics?
[09:19] <JazzCrazed> and cdubya...thx for ur help
[09:19] <prxq> Falstius: yep, a laptop. And thanks :-)
[09:19] <Enthusiast78> What does it mean when a package shows 'A' when listed with aptitude?
[09:19] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: yeah, its sweet.  SATA speads, external drive enclosures.  And its compatible with internal SATA, you just need a converter which most of the enclosures come with.
[09:19] <naxxtor> http://www.gprsec.hu/modules/phones/view.php?id=330 <-- supposedly it is a supported device
[09:19] <oskude> naxxtor, does the manufacturer have linux drivers ?
[09:19] <Falstius> prxq: you can run gparted without the live disk, but you can't resize the root drive.
[09:19] <prxq> hm...
[09:19] <Enthusiast78> It shows 'i A' in the beginning of the line.
[09:19] <naxxtor> sony? hahaaaa no
[09:19] <Falstius> er root partition.
[09:19] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: well, you see, there are tons of reason, and I could go on for hours, but the easiest is that a) the support by companies is low b) Ubuntu being an absolutely "free" distro, can't include, by it's very nature, things that are proprietary, or cost money, furthermore, if the source code is not available they will not accept it either...like DVD or mp3 playback for instance. You would be surprised to find out how many popular cod
[09:19] <reon> Anyone here know of Outdoor Router client software for Agere cards ???
[09:20] <JazzCrazed> falstius: i will definitely look into it, thx...main issue is i'm usin a pre-sata shuttle xpc, but i could always add a pci adapter
[09:20] <prxq> Falstius: even if I but into some ram based thing? I've got enough ram, I think?
[09:20] <Enthusiast78> Like: 'i A bacula-common                   - Network backup, recovery and verification'
[09:20] <oskude> naxxtor, you mean its a cellphone ? (i was thinking on usb voip phones... doh)
[09:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: anyways, now that you have those sources, you should find installation gets easier now, unless you want to build from source, that's a whole nother ballgame :P
[09:20] <Falstius> prxq: uhm, you're getting awfully fancy there.  It would be faster to back everything up and reinstall.
[09:20] <MonsieurBon> no help here.... :(
[09:21] <trappist> pierre__: found the answer to your question.
[09:21] <pau> #amule
[09:21] <Falstius> prxq: you could boot off a USB memory stick.
[09:21] <naxxtor> yes, it's a cellphone
[09:21] <prxq> Falstius: hm. Probably.
[09:21] <naxxtor> a Sony Ericsson K600i to be precise
[09:21] <prxq> Falstius: I don't know if my old dell does that
[09:21] <prxq> I've got a 160 GB 'stick', so it would be an option
[09:21] <pierre__> trappist: thx! what's the answer?
[09:22] <prxq> hm.... lemme check. Thanks Falstius.
[09:22] <trappist> pierre__: check "Use autoscrolling" in edit->preferences->advanced->general
[09:22] <oskude> naxxtor, well, i dont have a cellphone so i dont have a clue how to use that, if it hasnt any "flash" drive, you cant just mount it, and you may need some special software to even communicate with it...
[09:22] <Falstius> prxq: you can get a floppy or CD that will then load a boot loader you can use to boot the memory stick.
[09:22] <trappist> pierre__: or go to about:config and set general.autoScroll to true
[09:22] <michoelc> hi all. another begginer question. how do i start configuring my sound card? how do i find out what sound card i have. tia
[09:23] <polpak> michoelc, lspci should list your sound card
[09:23] <trappist> michoelc: lspci should give you a hint as to what sound card you have
[09:23] <pierre__> trappist: thank you much! great thx
[09:23] <naxxtor> oskude, strange - the grpsec site didn't seem to think you needed any extra drivers
[09:23] <prxq> Falstius: any links / google kw on how to do that?
[09:23] <michoelc> i saw that on the internet and tried but i dont think it says anything about it
[09:23] <michoelc> what would it be called?
[09:23] <oskude> naxxtor, dunno
[09:23] <hid3> I have a router which does HTB-based traffic shaping for my network. in `ifconfig` I see large number in 'errors:' section, on bot devices, the internal one, and the external one. What can be wrong? What can cause those errors? Is there any way I can investigate that?
[09:23] <polpak> michoelc, why don't you pastebin the output from lspci and give us the URL ?
[09:23] <Falstius> prxq: check out "damn small linux", they'll have the floppy/cds there.
[09:24] <naxxtor> it's really annoying
[09:24] <oskude> naxxtor, you didnt even say what you wanna do with linux and the device...
[09:24] <naxxtor> well, i want to use it as a modem
[09:24] <naxxtor> but before i can get that far i need to know where it's connected
[09:25] <Falstius> naxxtor: there was a howto for setting up udev that had some tools for search the /sys tree .. that might help.
[09:25] <michoelc> how do i do pastebin?
[09:25] <michoelc> forget that i saw in the topic
[09:25] <oskude> naxxtor, i just know that the first usb flash disk would be at /dev/sda
[09:25] <sfar> do i need a firewall? :)
[09:26] <trappist> sfar: couldn't surt
[09:26] <polpak> sfar, that's a good question.. Do you?
[09:26] <trappist> or hurt
[09:26] <Falstius> sfar, if you're not running any services you don't (don't install ssh, samba, etc)
[09:26] <ron_> incase of fires
[09:26] <polpak> trappist, well, it could.. if he wanted to allow people to connect to him.
[09:26] <trappist> but if you're doing everything else right, it won't help either
[09:26] <naxxtor> oskude, well, it's not a flash disk.  I've mounted them before - like my camera - fairly easily.  I don't care too much about transferring pictures to the phone I just want to use it as a modem
[09:26] <trappist> polpak: not if he set it up properly
[09:26] <sfar> polpak, in windows i do :)
[09:26] <sfar> Falstius, aight
[09:27] <oskude> naxxtor, doesnt the site have any howtow ?
[09:27] <naxxtor> not that's specific to my phone
[09:27] <ron_> you could just keep a bucket of water near your computer
[09:27] <naxxtor> it puts a lot of faith in the not terribly well translated gui
[09:27] <ron_> thats what i do
[09:28] <naxxtor> it has an exceedingly annoying error box
[09:28] <trappist> sfar: are you behind a router?
[09:28] <sfar> nopes
[09:28] <naxxtor> it says "Perhaps you did not switch on your mobile, did you?"
[09:29] <oskude> lsusb
[09:29] <trappist> sfar: then the only thing you have open to the outside world is your dhcp server
[09:29] <oskude> hups, sry (forgot alt-tab:)
[09:29] <MonsieurBon> can I somehow tell apps like eog or evince to open with a maximised window instead of such a tiny one?
[09:30] <IamEthos> is there a better AIM client than GAIM?
[09:30] <IamEthos> I must say, I'm just not a fan of it
[09:30] <IamEthos> I used Trillian on Windows
[09:30] <IamEthos> so if there is anything that is more like that, that'd be cool
[09:30] <IamEthos> any ideas?
[09:30] <blacknight> what;s wrong with gaim?
[09:30] <IamEthos> I don't know
[09:30] <pierre__> IamEthos: maybe meebo? :-)
[09:30] <IamEthos> I can't really put my finger on it
[09:30] <MonsieurBon> IamEthos, gaim is the best you can get
[09:31] <IamEthos> it seems sort of bulky sometimes
[09:31] <trappist> MonsieurBon: in kde you'd use kstart.  maybe there's a gnome equivalent.
[09:31] <IamEthos> like the IM windows seem huge
[09:31] <blacknight> resize them
[09:31] <blacknight> problem solved
[09:31] <michoelc> ive sent the pastein now, can someone help pls. i want to know what sound card i have to configure it. thnx
[09:31] <Falstius> IamEthos: shrink the font and resize?
[09:31] <trappist> IamEthos: I use bitlbee, which is an irc proxy to im servers, so I do im chat in my irc client
[09:31] <IamEthos> I had a minimal interface for my IM windows on Trillian (a menu, an input box and a display box) and it was lovely
[09:31] <pepsi> turnoff the silly formatting bar
[09:31] <pepsi> and resize the entry box :P
[09:32] <naxxtor> i go into /dev
[09:32] <naxxtor> ls | grep ACM
[09:32] <crimsun> michoelc: how new is your machine?
[09:32] <naxxtor> I get ttyACM0 and 1
[09:32] <michoelc> not at all new
[09:32] <newbuntie> what's the switch in cp command for cpying a directory?
[09:32] <trappist> newbuntie: -R
[09:32] <michoelc> probably 6-8 years old - 336Mhz
[09:32] <naxxtor> yet for some reason, neither of these are actually connected to the phone
[09:32] <Falstius> newbuntie: cp -r
[09:32] <newbuntie> thx
[09:32] <trappist> newbuntie: cp has a man page, too ;)
[09:33] <crimsun> michoelc: pastebin ``lspnp -v''
[09:33] <newbuntie> trappist: I know, but you guys are so much quicker :)
[09:33] <oskude> naxxtor, i see in the forums of "gprs easy connect" that someone is using "/dev/ttyUSB1" ...
[09:33] <michoelc> k one sex\c
[09:33] <newbuntie> didn't know there is a list :)
[09:33] <naxxtor> oskude, can you point me a link?
[09:33] <trappist> newbuntie: I keep a list of people who like to be spoonfed, so I know not to indulge them
[09:33] <oskude> naxxtor, http://www.gprsec.hu/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12
[09:33] <IamEthos> what about the bottom bar/
[09:33] <trappist> newbuntie: tough love, you see
[09:34] <IamEthos> can I get rid of that/
[09:34] <elad_> I installed ubuntu alongside winxp. shouldn't winxp be mounted next to ubuntu's partition by default? and if not, then how do I take care of that? is it possible to mount into in non-read-only?
[09:34] <Falstius> trappist: you just need a "RTFMP" button.
[09:34] <IamEthos> elad: Linux can't read NTFS
[09:34] <trappist> IamEthos: yes it can.
[09:34] <IamEthos> *can't write
[09:34] <elad_> IamEthos, you must be behind the times.
[09:34] <IamEthos> sorry
[09:34] <elad_> ah
[09:34] <newbuntie> trappist: ok remove me and I promise not to ask anymore of the easy questions :) still there should be a faster way than reading the damn man page, like a quick search engine for the common questions or something
[09:34] <naxxtor> /dev/USB1 doesn't exist
[09:34] <trappist> IamEthos: it can be coaxed into writing to it, too
[09:35] <Falstius> IamEthos: it can write too actually, but that is more complicated.
[09:35] <IamEthos> trappist: I've always heard that it is not too safe to do
[09:35] <elad_> Well, hasn't anyone written an unofficial, perhaps even illegal, but most importantly - available - module for writing to NTFS?
[09:35] <IamEthos> and never dared to try it
[09:35] <oskude> naxxtor, read it again...
[09:35] <trappist> IamEthos: the in-kernel write support is dangerous and destructive, but there are other solutions
[09:35] <Falstius> elad_: they have, but it doesn't work very well.
[09:35] <elad_> Well, forget writing for the moment. How do I mount it for reading? It could be mounted already. Where should I look for it?
[09:36] <michoelc> k ive posted it, crimson
[09:36] <Falstius> elad_: type "mount" and see if it is there.
[09:36] <trappist> newbuntie: for things like that, you'll learn pretty quick - for example, -R works for most commands, meaning 'recursive', and if it's not -R it's -r, as in scp
[09:36] <crimsun> michoelc: please spell my nick correctly to trigger the highlight
[09:36] <naxxtor> /dev/ttyUSB1 doesn't exist either :p
[09:36] <michoelc> im sorry
[09:36] <trappist> elad_: google for captive ntfs
[09:36] <tristanmike> elad_: there are things out there to help you write to ntfs, but if you want to risk losing that drive, go ahead
[09:36] <Falstius> some commands are -R and -r (like cp)
[09:36] <crimsun> michoelc: where did you post it?
[09:36] <IamEthos> elad: you have to go to System->Admin->Disks to read it
[09:36] <oskude> naxxtor, well now you can search there for yourself, or post your question there... i dont have a clue...
[09:36] <IamEthos> or access it as sudo
[09:37] <trappist> Falstius: the man page notwithstanding, -r and -R aren't equivalent
[09:37] <IamEthos> I don't think you can read it as anything less than root
[09:37] <michoelc> same place as the other one
[09:37] <michoelc> 11065
[09:37] <hawaisurf> hi! I am trying to install latex pakages and I get a probrem with "multex-bin" I get an error like this:"E: multex-bin: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" can anybody explain me what the problem is? thx..
[09:37] <crimsun> michoelc: (urls are helpful, as I'm quite busy atm)
[09:38] <michoelc> one sec, im going to go and use irc on the computer im talking about then
[09:38] <IamEthos> alright, I'm off to class
[09:38] <IamEthos> later
[09:39] <elad_> Working, thanks!
[09:40] <Whale> I have a Dell Optiplex 260 with 2.2 GHz PIV and 250MB ram that will go through the whole installation process then stop with kernel panic. Any ideas?
[09:41] <michoelc> crimsun ive relogged in on the box im asking about
[09:41] <michoelc> heres the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11065
[09:41] <elad_> I've got linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 installed. I'm running on a P4. Should I install 686 instead?
[09:42] <Falstius> trappist: what is the difference between -R and -r?  I always use -r for cp.
[09:42] <oskude> elad_, you can, but youre not "forced" to :) (the installer has only 386 kernel cause of space and compability, afaik)
[09:43] <elad_> oskude, what about performance? Will I gain any?
[09:43] <[cro] smiley> how can I automaticly run a bash command at 7:30:00 every day?
[09:43] <crimsun> michoelc: pastebin ``lspci -v''
[09:43] <trappist> Falstius: iirc -R won't copy special files like device files, socket files, etc.
[09:43] <trappist> [cro] smiley: man crontab
[09:43] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : New question :D I've downloaded xmms-1.2.10.tar.gz.  How do I install it from a .tar.gz file ? How do I go about it :D
[09:43] <[cro] smiley> trappist, thanx
[09:44] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[09:44] <oskude> elad_, i havent noticed any speed gains... but you can have as many kernels as you like, you can select them on the boot time
[09:44] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: toss that file you downloaded
[09:45] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : But can I do so with all programs? Limewire, utorrent etc etc ?
[09:45] <oskude> elad_, and before you really notice speed gains, also the software should be compiled for "686" ...
[09:45] <michoelc> crimsun: ive done it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11066
[09:45] <trappist> [cro] smiley: 30 7 * * * somecommand  <-- put that in your crontab (by running crontab -e)
[09:45] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: pretty much, you'd be surprised, you can check Synaptic now, and you'll see a lot of new stuff
[09:45] <crimsun> michoelc: what make & model?
[09:46] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: just do a "Search" for a package name, like "xmms" and see what comes up
[09:46] <oskude> elad_, but if youre now confused, i got 686 in my p3 and k7 in my duron
[09:46] <michoelc> crimsun: its a celeron 336Mhz
[09:46] <[cro] smiley> trappist, I'll try that
[09:46] <deefzi> how to install those gdm-themes? not with gnome-theme-manager i guess?
[09:46] <savage> hello ubuntu network!
[09:46] <crimsun> michoelc: no, make & model
[09:46] <elad_> oskude, the conclusion being?
[09:46] <michoelc> crimsun: im not sure what u mean then; the soundcard?
[09:46] <crimsun> michoelc: computer
[09:47] <oskude> elad_, i use the "highest" kernel for my processor, ive i dont see any speed gain :)
[09:47] <michoelc> crimsun: where can i find that out?
[09:47] <crimsun> michoelc: look on the case?
[09:47] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: i don't think they have utorrent for linux...i think i just heard someone say that earlier today, I use azureus...but that's just my preference
[09:48] <oskude> elad_, you can install 686 kernel and compare it yourself :)
[09:48] <savage> join #birkenau
[09:48] <seraphire> Is this the right place to ask a question about Ubuntu installation?
[09:48] <michoelc> crimsun, im sorry for sounding stupid. i looked on the case. it said celeron. it also says XYLO
[09:48] <soundray> seraphire: yes
[09:48] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, :  bittornado ? good?
[09:48] <crimsun> michoelc: is this a generic self-made machine or a Dell/Gateway/Compaq/HP/Packard Bell/etc.?
[09:49] <[cro] smiley> trappist, i did. can i see somehow that it will work?
[09:49] <sfar> ktorrent is nice imo :)
[09:49] <michoelc> crimsun; i think its an intel
[09:49] <unL33Tn00b> Can anyone tell me how to make sure synaptic isn't running?  I never opened it and I can't get to my updates because it says it's running.
[09:49] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: if you like it, then yes, never used, strictly an Azureus user, been so for at least 2 years now, another client would have to prove itself very well to convince me to switch, but again, it's only personal preference
[09:49] <crimsun> michoelc: ok, you're not understanding me at all.
[09:49] <crimsun> michoelc: please pastebin /var/log/dmesg
[09:49] <seraphire> Can anyone tell me how to check if my video drivers are setup correctly?  My mouse looses the pointer, and I'm left with just a shadow where the pointer should be.
[09:50] <michoelc> crimsun; im really sorry
[09:50] <sfar> unL33Tn00b, ps aux | grep synaptic
[09:50] <tru> so if I have a .deb for sarge that I would like to port to drapper. Is there a guide or something somewhere?
[09:50] <soundray> michoelc: don't worry. Like I said, we've all been there.
[09:50] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : and azureus dosen't come with the apt-get ?
[09:50] <_michael_> is anybody firmiliar with DRBL and clonezilla??
[09:50] <sfar> unL33Tn00b, "sudo killall synaptic" might work :)
[09:50] <_michael_> please pm me if so
[09:51] <[cro] smiley> trappist, do i have to run crontab at every startup or ...?
[09:51] <michoelc> crimsun, it's permission denied
[09:51] <michoelc> soundray: thanks to u im on it now!
[09:51] <crimsun> michoelc: no, ``cat /var/log/dmesg''
[09:51] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yes, that's true, however.....if you look here.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:52] <Jaga> A question: When I run synaptic the buttons/list boxes/other gui controls don't match the rest of the system. Have I screwed that up somehow or does synaptic usually do its own thing?
[09:52] <tristanmike> Jaga: that's normal because Synaptic runs as root, and you run mostly everything else as "user"
[09:52] <tristanmike> Jaga: there is a fix for that if you wanna give me a second.....
[09:52] <unL33Tn00b> sfar When I tried killall it said "no process killed"
[09:53] <soundray> seraphire, have you done the installation, or are you on a live CD?
[09:53] <Jaga> tristanmike: ahah yes. that explains it
[09:53] <michoelc> k crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11067
[09:54] <Whale>  I have a Dell Optiplex GX260 with 2.2 GHz PIV /w 250 ram that will go through the whole Ubuntu installation process then fail boot-up with kernel panic. Any ideas?
[09:54] <unL33Tn00b> sfar ps aux..... returns "5602  0.0  0.2   2880   796 pts/0    R+   11:53   0:00 grep synaptic"
[09:54] <seraphire> soundray: I installed it on a DELL box, and all the graphics appear correct in general usage (windows and such) except the mouse pointer and some screen savers.
[09:55] <sfar> unL33Tn00b, that is weird... is it when you do "apt-get" that its says its already running?
[09:55] <newbuntie> does this play for anyone?
[09:55] <crimsun> michoelc: ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[09:55] <newbuntie> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3312137
[09:55] <soundray> seraphire: how is your mouse connected?
[09:55] <tristanmike> Jaga: ...still looking, I stumbled accross it the last time I did it...
[09:55] <michoelc> crimsun: cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[09:55] <Jaga> tristanmike: no problem.. I know the feeling
[09:56] <crimsun> michoelc: ``sudo modprobe snd-es18xx''
[09:56] <seraphire> erez, It's a Microsoft USB mouse.  the mouse itself works correctly.  Just the image disappears periodically, I haven't figured out how to make it go away, but if I click the title bar of a window, it restores the image temporarily.
[09:56] <unL33Tn00b> sfar I clicked on update notifier because it says I have updates...it asks for my PW...tries to load and then presents error.
[09:56] <sfar> is it closing after the error?
[09:56] <Jaga> anyone know which colour number it is for my own text in x-chat?
[09:56] <Jaga> I set the background to black and I can hardly see my own text
[09:56] <michoelc> crimsun: ive done that
[09:57] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Old java 1.4 :)
[09:57] <seraphire> Whoops, soundray, that was directed to you, not erez.  I misread the screen.
[09:57] <crimsun> michoelc: ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[09:57] <sfar> unL33Tn00b, i've gotten that error too.. but i can still install the updates :)
[09:57] <sfar> try "ps aux | grep apt" and "ps aux  | grep dpkg" also
[09:57] <sfar> see if there is any processes running
[09:58] <nickrud> Jaga, 30
[09:58] <michoelc> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11068
[09:58] <crimsun> michoelc: ``amixer -c0''
[09:59] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : dpkg -i azureus_2.3.0.6-1_all.deb ....  -> requested operation requires superuser privilege
[09:59] <Jaga> nickrud: thanks!
[09:59] <seraphire> My video card, according to lspci is: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF
[09:59] <soundray> seraphire: which X driver are you using? (Find out with grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- most likely the third line of output)
[09:59] <spiritz> LinuxNoob: add sudo before
[09:59] <_michael_> is anybody firmiliar with DRBL and clonezilla?? I can't figure out the right way to work it... it is installed correctly
[10:00] <seraphire> soundray: Driver "ati"
[10:00] <ladofnod> When I play a non-dvd source with any of my player (gxine,mplayer,etc) it is very slow on the video with I think normal audio. My computer has not had a problem before playing files. Any ideas?
[10:00] <newbuntie> can anyone here listen to npr or any other wax files?
[10:00] <warhawk> yop
[10:00] <michoelc> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11069
[10:00] <kenoby31> alguien habla castellano?
[10:01] <crimsun> michoelc: now log out of GNOME and back in
[10:01] <michoelc> ok. ill have to quit this then...
[10:01] <kenoby31> hola
[10:01] <oskude> seraphire, you could try "r128" driver (man r128)
[10:01] <kenoby31> hello
[10:01] <nickrud> newbuntie, I just checked, mplayer plugin played npr for me
[10:01] <frank23> !ex
[10:01] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, frank23
[10:02] <frank23> !es
[10:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:02] <seraphire> oskude: I'm check the man page. Thanks.
[10:02] <kenoby31> thankiu
[10:02] <sergevn> Has anyone got WoW to work on ubuntu ? :)
[10:02] <tristanmike> Jaga: crap it all....I need to start bookmarking more...I'll get it...:P
[10:02] <GingerDog> upon upgrading a breezy to a dapper, bootup seems to hang on a 'waiting for root filesystem' ... any ideas?
[10:02] <Jaga> tristanmike: I think I might have found it.... just reading now
[10:03] <soundray> seraphire: good hint from oskude.
[10:03] <tristanmike> Jaga: link please ?
[10:03] <frank23> sergevn: it worked with cedega for me
[10:03] <crimsun> GingerDog: you may have to wait up to 3 minutes
[10:03] <Falstius> GingerDog: sounds like you're missing your initrd maybe.
[10:03] <Falstius> GingerDog: or listen to crimsun, I know nothing :)
[10:03] <Jaga> tristanmike: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23798
[10:03] <unL33Tn00b> There are a few places where it'll take a while...just let it run.
[10:03] <GingerDog> k, thanks :) initrd definately exists.
[10:04] <GingerDog> i've waited for some time, but perhaps not 3 minutes
[10:04] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, :  save opened torrents to ->  .Azureus/torrents  but then its hidden?
[10:04] <unL33Tn00b> New one: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:04] <Arrick> hello all, I'm back for a while
[10:05] <ron_> veiw > show hidden files
[10:05] <ron_> or view
[10:05] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yeah, but in Nautilus (gnome file browser) you can "ctrl+h) to show/hide, but I said bollocks to that, and made my own in my home/<usrname> directory
[10:05] <seraphire> Hrm.  After skimming the MAN for r128, I'm using an LCD monitor.  Would that cause issue?
[10:05] <oskude> seraphim, btw, the symptoms you describe, are the same i get when i have batteries inserted in my dell latitude c800 latptop (my battery charging circuit is broke)
[10:05] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: that's "ctrl+h" my fingers are all crazy :P
[10:05] <oskude> seraphim, sry ment seraphire
[10:05] <tristanmike> Jaga: that's it, dang you :P
[10:05] <Jaga> tristanmike: ah, might I be right in saying that as long as you use a standard theme then root aps will work, but if you use a self-installed theme it doesn't...
[10:06] <everette> can someone help me?
[10:06] <unL33Tn00b> doing so returns "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege"
[10:06] <seraphim> yeah, thx for the 2nd hl too :P
[10:06] <capiCrimm> I added some exports to /etc/profile, and did $bash, but the variables don't seem to exist?
[10:06] <Jaga> tristanmike: that would explain why I think it was working until recently
[10:06] <Jaga> tristanmike: :)
[10:06] <tristanmike> Jaga: wait, i lied, that's for hoary
[10:06] <seraphire> oskude: Interesting.  I'm running on a Dell Dimension 4300s desktop.
[10:06] <everette> I need help getting my Mp3 player to mount
[10:06] <tristanmike> Jaga: there was one for breezy and I use a customized theme and it works just fine
[10:06] <Jaga> tristanmike: oh... we're still looking then?
[10:07] <tristanmike> Jaga: yup yup :P
[10:07] <soundray> everette, what make and model is it?
[10:07] <redwolf> everette: does it give an error when you try to mount, or is it just not showing up?
[10:07] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Is Nautilus already installed?
[10:07] <capiCrimm> what do I need to do to get bash to reload and read /etc/profile?
[10:07] <sfar> is it possible to make some kind of script to run in terminal that will execute a load of commands (and only execute when the prior command is done)
[10:07] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : sorry..my bad :D
[10:07] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yeah, it's the default file browser
[10:07] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: no worries at all :)
[10:07] <seraphire> soundray: Sorry, missed your comment.  thanks.
[10:07] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Yeah hehe found that out :D
[10:07] <soundray> capiCrimm: 'source /etc/profile' -- no need to reload
[10:07] <Falstius> capiCrimm: source /etc/profile
[10:07] <everette> not showing uop
[10:08] <everette> it's a creative zen microphoto
[10:08] <capiCrimm> sfar, use ||'s to link the commands.
[10:08] <seraphire> oskude: I'll try swapping out the driver in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:08] <lampshade> what is the name of the file that I can add stuff to to have it auto loaded on boot.  It is modprobe something  I need to add modprobe i8k force=1 to it
[10:08] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Any tips on useful programs?  I'm looking for something like iCal for mac
[10:08] <sfar> capiCrimm, do you know if its possible to put them in some kind of file that i can execute?
[10:08] <elad_> VLC is stuck, and I can't close it. Help?
[10:08] <redwolf> everette: hmm, I believe creative zens need their own software to work
[10:08] <Falstius> sfar, use && to link the commands, || will only run the second if the first fails.
[10:09] <nickrud> lampshade, somewhere in /etc/modprobe.d
[10:09] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: i've rarely had the opportunity to work on a mac, unfortuantely, what's iCal ?
[10:09] <elad_> oh. Why was vlc running with root permissions?
[10:09] <everette> well I found this website on the Ubuntu forum and it shows how to get the Creative USB to work
[10:09] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : A planner, organizer...
[10:09] <everette> and I followed the steps but it's still not working
[10:09] <Falstius> sfar, if you make a text file with a list of commands, you can just run that.  you need to "chmod +x myscript" to make it runnable (do once) and then "./myscript" to run it.
[10:10] <redwolf> everette: let me see that page
[10:10] <crimsun> everette: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[10:10] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: hmmm, I don't know the layout, but Evolution does that kinda stuff I think, that's the default mail client....but I have a paper and pen for that stuff, I still haven't jumped into the technological pool for my appointments and stuff :P
[10:10] <sfar> Falstius, but i shall still put "command && command && command" in the text file right?
[10:10] <papichulo> is this where the worlds smartest linux geeks chat?
[10:10] <nickrud> sfar, the first line in that script needs to be exactly,  #! /bin/bash
[10:10] <Falstius> sfar, no just put each command on its own line.
[10:11] <sfar> ah, nice :)
[10:11] <Falstius> nickrud: not really ...
[10:11] <lampshade> nickrud, what do you mean somewhere in modprobe?
[10:11] <sfar> will try it out, thanks
[10:11] <soundray> everette, you can't load music onto this device with anything other than Windows software.
[10:11] <lampshade> just create a file there with the command I want in it?
[10:11] <Falstius> sfar, if you want to make it fancy (with if statements and such) you should check out a scripting guide.
[10:11] <MisterN> hi
[10:11] <soundray> everette: apparently you can partition it to hold data, but it won't play from that partition.
[10:11] <nickrud> lampshade, you can create a file in /etc/modprobe.d , and add that line to it. Use one of the files already there as an example
[10:11] <neoxan> re :p
[10:12] <everette> oh
[10:12] <oskude> did i heard bash scripting guide ? :) http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[10:12] <mock> Is there a flac-plugin for bmp?
[10:12] <AstralJava> Hey guys, how could I make sure I've got NFS file system support in my kernel?
[10:12] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : hehe ok :D So any other program that are good?
[10:12] <kRaKoN> is there anyway to contact an ircop of this server?
[10:12] <nickrud> Falstius, I was taught that, I'm open to learning more
[10:12] <crimsun> AstralJava: you do.
[10:12] <crimsun> AstralJava: (if you're using a default Ubuntu kernel)
[10:12] <AstralJava> Thanks crimsun, I am. :)
[10:12] <svenne> how to install vlcplayer?
[10:12] <redwolf> everette: I don't have much experience with the zens, but you might be able to get it to work
[10:13] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: whacha lookin' to do..? I really like mplayer now, I used to be a vlc advoate, but mplayer is doing me better
[10:13] <crimsun> svenne: enable universe and install it.
[10:13] <everette> how?
[10:13] <tjansson> I would like to install dapper on my laptop - which only has floppy acces? Is there any netinstall diskettes availeble?
[10:13] <svenne> crimsun; how to do that?
[10:13] <Jaga> tristanmike: i just tried the hoary one - it works. i think it's just because the info to make the theme is only in /home/user/.themes. copy that to /usr/share/themes and it works straight away
[10:13] <oskude> tjansson, sadly no (but debian does)
[10:13] <holobyted> how can I config gnome to open all dialog windows (input boxes, message boxes, etc) in the center of the screen? they seem to open up on random places
[10:13] <redwolf> everette: try using Gnomad2 to interface with it
[10:13] <tristanmike> Jaga: ...maybe i did too, snuck past me...:P
[10:13] <svenne> crimsun: svenne@svenne:~$ apt-get install vlc
[10:13] <svenne> E: Kunne ikke pne lsefila /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Ikke tilgang)
[10:13] <svenne> E: Kan ikke lse listemappa
[10:14] <crimsun> svenne: you were sent instructions. Read them, please.
[10:14] <redwolf> everette: it lists the microphoto as an 'experiemental support' device
[10:14] <Jaga> tristanmike: :)
[10:14] <svenne> okay
[10:14] <svenne> thx
[10:14] <everette> I DID and when I run gnomad2 it says "no jukebox device found"
[10:14] <Sergi0> svenne : try sudo apt-get insatll vlc
[10:14] <tjansson> oskude: what a shame - could I use the ones for brezy and upgrade?
[10:14] <tjansson> oskude: What that be the same?
[10:15] <everette> where do I find the lists of gnomad2 devices
[10:15] <oskude> tjansson, hmm, i doubt it works... but it may be possible to repair..
[10:15] <michoelc> ok crismun, im back; ive rebooted
[10:15] <kRaKoN> is there anyway to contact an ircop of this server?
[10:15] <crimsun> michoelc: erm, you weren't supposed to reboot
[10:15] <crimsun> kRaKoN: #freenode
[10:16] <michoelc> crimsun, what was i supposed to do?
[10:16] <redwolf> everette: http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
[10:16] <kRaKoN> crimsum thank you
[10:16] <tjansson> oskude: merde - I will be stuck with mandriva forever :D
[10:16] <crimsun> michoelc: log out of and back into GNOME
[10:16] <oskude> tjansson, but you could install a small debian, and then debootstrap ubuntu on another partition
[10:16] <redwolf> everette: what version of gnomad do you have, because only the very newest versions support it
[10:16] <michoelc> crimsun, when i clicked log off it rebooted
[10:16] <svenne> crimsun; i cant fin the hoary thing
[10:16] <svenne> find*
[10:16] <oskude> tjansson, you have a linux in it running ?
[10:16] <tjansson> oskude: yes - mandriva
[10:16] <crimsun> svenne: you're using breezy, aren't you?
[10:16] <michoelc> crimsun, well anyway at least u got a break from my nagging!
[10:17] <redwolf> everette: it looks very experimental though, no data files or playlists
[10:17] <crimsun> michoelc: echo snd-es18xx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[10:17] <_michael_> Nobody in here yet that knows how to use DRBL or clonezilla?
[10:17] <oskude> tjansson, hmm, then you could have couple possibilities to install ubuntu from that...
[10:17] <Arrick> Hey all, I run Registry Mechanic on Windows XP Pro all the time, is there any reason for, or any app that does the same thing in ubuntu?
[10:17] <Jaga> tristanmike: I wouldn't have found it but for what you said.. so team effort :) And I've managed to get fonts to look ok today !!
[10:17] <everette> 2.8.0
[10:17] <svenne> crimsun; can i msg you?
[10:17] <tjansson> oskude: really? sounds nice - how would one do that?
[10:17] <Sergi0> Arrick what does Registry Mechanic do?
[10:17] <crimsun> svenne: no.
[10:17] <holobyted> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/2000-July/msg00101.html gives some info on "making dialog boxes pop up centered," but I can't find this preference anywhere. can anyone help?
[10:17] <oskude> tjansson, but i dont know if theres any easy ways to do it
[10:18] <Arrick> I cleans out old registry entries, that dont get deleted when you remove a program
[10:18] <elad_> Is there an easy way for me to install the new GNOME?
[10:18] <tjansson> oskude: If u know and article og webpage on that
[10:18] <redwolf> everette: k, 2.8.3 is the version that has support for your player
[10:18] <svenne> how to chose to use breezy?i can find the breezy thing..
[10:18] <svenne> i see many breezy thnigs;P
[10:18] <crimsun> svenne: what "breezy thing" are you talking about?
[10:18] <michoelc> crimsun: it's: snd-es18xx
[10:18] <crimsun> michoelc: good, now log out and back in
[10:18] <Sergi0> Arrick, you dont need a tool for that in linux, there is no registry in linux
[10:18] <oskude> tjansson, i wonder if theres a way to boot a cd image from grub... do you have grub or lilo ?
[10:18] <redwolf> everette: if you got gnomad from the ubuntu servers/apt, it might be best to uninstall it and get the version off the gnomad website
[10:18] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : I'll check it out
[10:18] <tjansson> lilo
[10:18] <Arrick> Sergi0, ok
[10:18] <svenne> cd ubuntu 5.10 "breezy badger"
[10:18] <svenne> etc..
[10:18] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: how did the azuerus thing go ?
[10:19] <tjansson> oskude: lilo - not as advanced i guess
[10:19] <michoelc> crimsun, can u tell me this time what to do exactly.  what is log off as aposed to reboot
[10:19] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Works great :D
[10:19] <crimsun> michoelc: System> Log out
[10:19] <Arrick> Sergi0, I want to learn to write programs in linux, are there any good books for reference?
[10:19] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: good to hear
[10:19] <crimsun> svenne: all you need to do is enable the universe (Community Supported) repository using Synaptic
[10:19] <oskude> tjansson, sec ill gooogle a little...
[10:19] <seraphire> Okay, before I change my xorg.conf file Device section from "ati" to "r128"  Do I need to keep or remove the 'BusID "PCI:1:0:0"' in the file?
[10:19] <soundray> michoelc: if you're not working on any unsaved data, you can just Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[10:19] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Just many restarts :D
[10:20] <tjansson> oskude: i will to - thx alot :D
[10:20] <seraphire> I'm working on this machine and don't want to crash it so I can't get back into it to ask questions later ;-)
[10:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you don't have to restart anything in Linux =)
[10:20] <svenne> how to enable that?
[10:20] <svenne> ;P
[10:20] <michoelc> soundray, and then to get back in?
[10:20] <svenne> i cant find a enable button..
[10:20] <Mister> alguien habla espaol?
[10:20] <Mister> alguien habla espaol?
[10:20] <Mister> aaaaa?
[10:20] <{alejandro}> Hey, whenever I run a fullscreen OpenGL or SDL game I am getting a kernel panic
[10:20] <soundray> michoelc: log in as usual.
[10:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: the only time you should ever need a restart is when you install a kernel update...otherwise, install, uninstall, use, whatever, this ain't windows ;)
[10:20] <runelind> lo siento senor
[10:20] <_jason> !es
[10:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:21] <{alejandro}> which is kind of yikes
[10:21] <everette> oh ok
[10:21] <Mister> windows es 8[10:21] <everette> hablo espanol
[10:21] <elad_> Is there an easy way for me to install the new GNOME on Ubuntu? Maybe some repository for bleeding-edge packages, from which I can apt-get install 2.14?
[10:21] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Whick mplayer version ? 386=
[10:21] <{alejandro}> it trancends the language barrier!
[10:21] <Mister> everette de donde eres?
[10:21] <tristanmike> Jaga: HAHAHA!! found it....lol  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148325&highlight=synaptic
[10:21] <oskude> tjansson, heres even one for ubuntu (but they are just chrooting to it, not replacing grub and so on...) http://lug.iit.edu/Ubuntu_Debootstrap
[10:21] <Sergi0> Arick dont ask me about books :)
[10:22] <tjansson> oskude: nice
[10:22] <elad_> !gnome
[10:22] <{alejandro}> anyone know about my fullscreen issue
[10:22] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1
[10:22] <LinuxNoob>  ?
[10:22] <{alejandro}> why would I get a kernel panic
[10:22] <tjansson> oskude: found this my self -maybe usefull - http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/quantian/howto_lilogrub.html
[10:22] <bon_> hi can any help me i am have trouble mounting a new partion i just created "hda5" my fstab file ->http://pastebin.com/629541
[10:22] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yeah, that's good
[10:22] <everette> yo soy de brasil pero vivo en los eeuu
[10:22] <redwolf> bon_: k, lemme take a look
[10:23] <seraphire> oskude: I don't see the BusID in the config setting in the xorg.conf file documentation.  Should I leave it in the configuration?
[10:23] <crimsun> everette: this channel communicates using English.
[10:23] <Mister> aaa de brazil e
[10:23] <usefulidiot> Is there any way to edit linux partitions inside of osx?
[10:23] <[cro] smiley> trappist, i have set up crontab, but it doesn't work
[10:23] <trappist> everette: #ubuntu-pt
[10:23] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : could find package...hmm
[10:23] <Arrick> I want to learn to write programs in linux, are there any good books for reference?
[10:23] <trappist> [cro] smiley: what's the output of crontab -l
[10:24] <Mister> aqui son todos computines
[10:24] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : fixed it
[10:24] <Mister> d'oh!
[10:24] <hawaisurf> hi I have a problem with the multex-bin package for installing TeTex can anybody help me?
[10:24] <[cro] smiley> trappist, 16 20 * * * evolution
[10:24] <elad_> Automatix is crazy. I ask for backup tools, it installs DC++. I ask for Firefox 1.5.0.1, it install Java.
[10:24] <redwolf> bon_:  k, what problems are you having with it?
[10:24] <Arrick> Mister, english
[10:24] <oskude> seraphim, mine is "0000:01:00.0" in lspci, and BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in xorg.conf
[10:24] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: good for you, that's fantastic, see, you're catching on...=)
[10:24] <bon_> redwolf: does it look ok
[10:24] <Jaga> tristanmike: yep. that's an even better solution.. hatsofftoyasir :)
[10:24] <Mister> no
[10:24] <everette> crimsun: I didn't initiate the conversation
[10:24] <Mister> spanish
[10:25] <crimsun> everette: irrelevant.
[10:25] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : And finally the big question... how can i access my c:\ windows part?
[10:25] <[cro] smiley> trappist, i tried * * * * * but it doesn't also work
[10:25] <bon_> redwolf: it didnt mount at boot
[10:25] <Arrick> !spanish
[10:25] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Arrick
[10:25] <seraphim> not a 4th please now :D
[10:25] <Sergi0> !es
[10:25] <Mister> chilean
[10:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:25] <redwolf> bon_: I would probably take out the noexec part...
[10:25] <everette> get over it
[10:25] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : hda1
[10:25] <everette> anyway
[10:25] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about windows
[10:25] <trappist> [cro] smiley: for a gui app, try making your command DISPLAY=:0 evolution
[10:25] <elad_> !hebrew
[10:25] <ubotu> elad_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:25] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: check your pm for a script to automount partitions
[10:25] <seraphire> oskude: Thanks. I'll leave that line in then.
[10:25] <redwolf> bon_: also take out 'noauto'
[10:25] <Arrick> !he
[10:25] <ubotu> Arrick: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:25] <bon_> redwolf: ok, do you thinnk that would stop it mountying
[10:25] <[cro] smiley> trappist, oh, ok
[10:25] <redwolf> bon_: that's probably why it's not booting
[10:25] <Mister> 8[10:25] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : I'll check it out... beginning to catch on here
[10:25] <Eleaf> uhh
[10:25] <Mister> xD
[10:25] <hawaisurf> anybody can help me with Latex packages issues?
[10:25] <Arrick> I want to learn to write programs in linux, are there any good books for reference?
[10:26] <oskude> tjansson, heres a complete for debian, but they use lilo (ubuntu prefers grub) http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html
[10:26] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: sorry, wrong pm
[10:26] <redwolf> bon_: wait, do you want it to mount at boot or not?
[10:26] <_jason> hawaisurf: just state the issues you are having
[10:26] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : ok?
[10:26] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: here's the right onw
[10:26] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about ntfs
[10:26] <bon_> redwolf: yes
[10:26] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: there ya go ;)
[10:26] <michoelc> crimsun; k this time i just loggef of and back on :-)
[10:26] <redwolf> bon_: k, lemme rework your line a little bit, it's a bit contradictary
[10:26] <hawaisurf> _jason: when I install the multex-bin package i get an error on Synaptic
[10:27] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : tnx
[10:27] <crimsun> michoelc: ok, then you need to ``sudo modprobe snd-es18xx'', then log out and back in again
[10:27] <_jason> hawaisurf: what would that error be?
[10:27] <svenne> crimsun svenne: all you need to do is enable the universe (Community Supported) repository using Synaptic
[10:27] <svenne> oskude tjansson, sec ill gooogle a little...
[10:27] <redwolf> bon_: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext2 auto,atime,rw,nodev,users
[10:27] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about cli
[10:27] <svenne> how to do that='
[10:27] <oskude> tjansson, oh the wiki has something about debootstrap (but for chroot) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[10:27] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: there's some more good reading :)
[10:27] <redwolf> bon_: add a '0 0' to the end of that
[10:27] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : cli?
[10:27] <bon_> redwolf: o dok
[10:27] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: command line interface
[10:27] <hawaisurf> _jason: the error:  E: multex-bin: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:28] <_jason> svenne: system > administration > synaptic, then follow the directions on the wiki page
[10:28] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: check your pm for some nice tutorial sites to help you along in your Linux journey
[10:28] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Oh my... I've got alot to read :D
[10:28] <redwolf> bon_: you'll probably want suid, since it's a desktop, auto means it mounts at boottime, and you'll def. want to be able to execute stuff from that directory
[10:28] <Mister> beeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:28] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yes you do my friend ;)
[10:28] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: new world here, much cleaner and safer though ;)
[10:28] <bon_> redwolf: is there any way to test it without rebooting
[10:28] <_jason> svenne: hoary, breezy are names for the versions of ubuntu.  You only follow the section that applies to your current version
[10:28] <redwolf> bon_: yes, just change the fstab
[10:28] <tjansson> oskude: thx - will look into it
[10:28] <tjansson> :D
[10:28] <redwolf> bbon_: and try mount /dev/hda5
[10:29] <crimsun> svenne: instructions were sent to you. Read them, please.
[10:29] <svenne> i have read it..
[10:29] <Mister> puedo havlar en espaol alas mierdas y  o me van a entender
[10:29] <tristanmike> !es
[10:29] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:29] <_jason> Mister: /join #ubuntu-es
[10:29] <redwolf> bon_: you won't know whether or not it will boot for sure without restarting, but there's no reason it shouldn't if the mount command works
[10:30] <crimsun> svenne: those instructions lead you to Web sites that describe how to add it
[10:30] <oskude> tjansson, this is allso interesting, but slight offtopic :) http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/179
[10:30] <svenne> the hoary hedgedogs arrent there..
[10:30] <elad_> !he
[10:30] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elad_
[10:30] <elad_> !hw
[10:30] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elad_
[10:30] <bon_> redwolf: ok
[10:30] <__mikem> Hey
[10:30] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : oh... firewall?  is firestarter ok?
[10:30] <_jason> hawaisurf: sudo apt-get install --reinstall multex-bin, put it on pastebin if you get errors
[10:31] <debian__> How to transfer musics to Sony Network Walkman in linux? any idea? (for info sony uses proprietary software to transfer musics)
[10:31] <_jason> hawaisurf: I write latex and don't need the package, all I need is the tetex stuff by the way
[10:31] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: no firewall needed in Linux :)
[10:31] <[cro] smiley> trappist, thank you It's working now :)
[10:31] <crimsun> svenne: are you using breezy or hoary?
[10:31] <bon_> redwolf: sudo mount -t /dev/hda5 /Home
[10:31] <hawaisurf> _jason: aha ok then I can skip this package?
[10:32] <svenne> breezy
[10:32] <trappist> [cro] smiley: awesome
[10:32] <svenne> i think :O
[10:32] <crimsun> svenne: lsb_release -r
[10:32] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Amen :D
[10:32] <svenne> lsb_release -r
[10:32] <redwolf> bon_: don't give it -t or anything, just try mount /home/bon or mount /dev/hda5
[10:32] <svenne> Release:        5.10
[10:32] <redwolf> bon_: you need to make sure the changes applied to fstab
[10:32] <crimsun> svenne: that's breezy, so don't worry about hoary.
[10:32] <_jason> hawaisurf: yeah I wouldn't bother with it, just remove it.  You just need tetex-bin and tetex-base... maybe tetex-extra as well
[10:32] <svenne> oaky
[10:32] <svenne> whats nexT?:p
[10:32] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: and a virus scanner is only need to protect our windows brethern :)
[10:32] <oskude> tjansson, btw, ubuntuforums.org gives many results for "debootstrap" too (even when only searching titles)
[10:32] <crimsun> svenne: now, follow the directions for breezy
[10:33] <hawaisurf> _jason: ok thank you very much!
[10:33] <yorksha> any one any idea why i can't get to vncserver:1 on a basic install of breezy badger?
[10:33] <tjansson> oskude: have you done a debootstrap yourself?
[10:34] <sfar> how can i pack 3 files from a folder to a .tar?
[10:34] <seraphire> Okay, I'm going to try a reboot and see if it works. Thanks for the help everyone.
[10:34] <michoelc> crimsun: good news: i heard the intro sound when i logged in and the volume control works. looks like its working. anything else i still need to do?
[10:34] <bon_> redwolf: it apearded to work brb going for reboot
[10:34] <crimsun> michoelc: nope. It works from hereon.
[10:34] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: so if you ran like a mail server that hosted windows users, you may want a virus scanner to scan the incomming mail so that it doesn't get transfered to your windows users, but for Linux, for the most part, unneeded
[10:34] <redwolf> bon_: k
[10:34] <michoelc> crimsun, so a million thanks
[10:34] <crimsun> np
[10:35] <michoelc> crimsun, and sorry for being such an idiot
[10:35] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: welcome to the wonderfull world of Linux where the air is fresh and the ground is clean ;)
[10:35] <aeolist> michoelc, tips are always welcome!
[10:35] <debian__> Has anybody tested Dapper on HP nc6120 notebook?
[10:35] <michoelc> lol
[10:35] <crimsun> debian__: check the laptoptestingteam page
[10:35] <oskude> tjansson, yup, but for debian, and last time 2 years ago... (installed debian remotely through suse, and a ide flash debian server)
[10:35] <aeolist> debian__, go to #ubuntu+1 and ask
[10:35] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: weird analogy
[10:35] <michoelc> i hope on day i can give back what ive got
[10:35] <tjansson> oskude: maybe I should do a pxe install - ones tried that in mandriva
[10:35] <UsefuLldiot> when running ubuntu rescue mode, why is vim soo .. odd?
[10:36] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: =)
[10:36] <oskude> tjansson, that would be less hassle
[10:36] <aeolist> michoelc, newbie-ness?
[10:36] <Firebird8> any one know why everything on ubuntu is laggy?
[10:36] <Firebird8> like my web browser and openoffice
[10:36] <simonpca> Openoffice.org: normal :P
[10:36] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, :  Damn.... I'm deleting windows hehe
[10:36] <oskude> tjansson, but that debootstrap is good to know, you can install debian/ubuntu nicely over ssh :)
[10:36] <debian__> crimsun: is there laptoptestingteam IRC channel?
[10:36] <aeolist> Firebird8, these stuff are laggy cause they are laggy... you can search for guides to make'em load faster... not gonna make a huge difference though
[10:36] <crimsun> debian__: #ubuntu-laptop
[10:36] <michoelc> aeolist, its my first time with linux
[10:37] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: =)
[10:37] <BlueHeron> omfg
[10:37] <BlueHeron> the ati control panel spelled graphics wron
[10:37] <BlueHeron> g
[10:37] <BlueHeron> what the hell
[10:37] <UsefuLldiot> What text editors are available in rescure mode?
[10:37] <BlueHeron> it says grafics
[10:37] <BlueHeron> LOL
[10:37] <aeolist> michoelc, dont worry, everybody goes through that
[10:37] <tjansson> oskude: over ssh - that sound very nice indeed
[10:37] <sfar> you spelled wrong wrong
[10:37] <michoelc> aeolist, ive wanted to for ages, now my brother got a new laptop and ive hijacked his old box
[10:37] <BlueHeron> sfar: i know lol
[10:37] <sfar> :)
[10:37] <BlueHeron> but they did
[10:37] <debian__> crimsun: 10x
[10:37] <michoelc> aeolist: thanks
[10:37] <BlueHeron> spell graphics wrong lol
[10:37] <yorksha> any one any idea why i can't get to vncserver:1 on a basic install of breezy badger?
[10:37] <aeolist> michoelc, that's the spirit... claim what's yours
[10:38] <aeolist> UsefuLldiot, vi of course
[10:38] <MrCollins> hmm
[10:38] <BlueHeron> UsefuLldiot: nano
[10:38] <Firebird8> so things on linux are just laggy?
[10:38] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: that's ati for you
[10:38] <oskude> tjansson, my first external "root" server had suse in, so i googled ways to install debian and found debootstrap (and i found a nice script to it too)
[10:38] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: lol my card is great
[10:38] <tjansson> oskude: also just found that - hd-media/boot.img.gz -- 123 mb image (compressed) for USB memory stick
[10:38] <UsefuLldiot> nano: error opening terminal: bterm
[10:38] <Falstius> Firebird8: no .. firefox and openoffice are.
[10:39] <aeolist> Firebird8, no things on linux are not laggy, what hardware are you running on?
[10:39] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: lucky guy :P
[10:39] <tjansson> seems there are severeal ways
[10:39] <MrCollins> cant connect to my ubuntu ssh server OpenSSH
[10:39] <Firebird8> aeolist, 512mb ram 2.4GHz P4, ATI AIW 2006
[10:39] <MrCollins> im using PUTTY... can someone help me?
[10:39] <oskude> tjansson, if your machine can boot from usb
[10:39] <michoelc> ok ive got a quick question now. i want to play a song thats on the network. how can i access networked shared files from the open dialog?
[10:39] <Arrick> I want to learn to write programs in linux, are there any good books for reference?
[10:39] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: lol
[10:39] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: you ever use EPSXE ?
[10:40] <MrCollins> putty on a win32 box.
[10:40] <Eleaf> I have an old server (quite interesting) But I'm having trouble getting it to detect the network card!
[10:40] <aeolist> Firebird8, if you want top top top speed, you have to fiddle around with ubuntu... ubuntu is a general distro... not a racing car. cant please them all (support all those different stuff) AND keep it small and fast
[10:40] <Eleaf> What does the gnome network-admin do whenever you "configure the card"  what is the command?
[10:40] <aeolist> Firebird8, that's more than enough really
[10:40] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: yeah, not fully on Linux yet
[10:40] <gabbah> evolution will only open link if firefox is already started, but not if it's closed. Then nothing happens. How can I fix that?
[10:40] <Eleaf> ifup eth0 doesn't work because eth0 doesn't exist
[10:40] <oskude> tjansson, and also netboot must be supported by your bios (but maybe these 2 can be allso be done with a boot floppy)
[10:40] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: oh i use it all the time
[10:40] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: i have like 30GB of all my favorite old games :-P
[10:41] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: tony hawks pro skater 3 :-)))
[10:41] <tjansson> oskude: I know it supports pxe - so guess its the same?
[10:41] <oskude> tjansson, yup
[10:41] <antisocial_boris> can someone give me some commands to open programs from the terminal?
[10:41] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: you mean Tony Crack's ProSkater :P
[10:41] <Eleaf> lol
[10:41] <BlueHeron> antisocial_boris: type in the name of the program
[10:42] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: what do you mean?
[10:42] <Eleaf> Is anybody even listening to me?
[10:42] <redguy> !tell antisocial_boris about cli
[10:42] <Falstius> antisocial_boris: well, "vi" will open a text editor.
[10:42] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: I mean that Tony Hawk is so addictive it's like crack :P
[10:42] <BlueHeron> haha
[10:42] <BlueHeron> i love Resident evil 1 directors ccut
[10:42] <rambo3> antisocial_boris, alias what?="i will read wiki more " && what?
[10:42] <BlueHeron> i've played this game on every system
[10:42] <Falstius> Eleaf: it probably modifies the network config file and then just restarts the network.
[10:42] <BlueHeron> i can beat it in like an hour
[10:42] <oskude> !enter
[10:42] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:43] <ara> BlueHeron: Yeah. IT's a classic and even harder than RE 2
[10:43] <BlueHeron> yea re2 is ez
[10:43] <antisocial_boris> i mean things like "firefox &"
[10:43] <Eleaf> Falstius, I can't get ubuntu to recognize my network card.  (I can't open gnome network-admin because X doesn't start, no matter what I do)
[10:43] <ara> the good old days
[10:43] <BlueHeron> re3 can be hard or easy depending if you fight that fag or not.
[10:43] <Amaranth> Language.
[10:43] <BlueHeron> i have all the r3 iso's
[10:43] <Falstius> Eleaf: if you type /sbin/ifconfig does it list a "eth" card?
[10:43] <BlueHeron> resident evil*
[10:43] <rambo3> aha & is just to keep them running
[10:43] <Eleaf> Falstius, I don't believe so
[10:43] <Amaranth> BlueHeron: Please do not discuss illegal acts here.
[10:43] <Eleaf> Falstius, no only lo.
[10:43] <tristanmike> let's bring games conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:43] <oskude> Eleaf, can you see your network card/chip when you type "lspci" ?
[10:43] <redguy> BlueHeron: please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:43] <Eleaf> loop
[10:43] <BlueHeron> Amaranth: not illegal since i own the games
[10:44] <BlueHeron> redguy: okay sorry
[10:44] <redguy> BlueHeron: np
[10:44] <sfar> antisocial_boris, press tab twice :)
[10:44] <Eleaf> oskude, I'm actually not sure.  But on boot it "configures network devices" ok.  (The machine isn't booted right now).
[10:44] <Eleaf> It takes like 20 minutes to start lol
[10:44] <rambo3> antisocial_boris, for he most part you could just search google for "job control linux"
[10:45] <redguy> Eleaf: WHAT KIND OF NETWORK CARD IS IT?
[10:45] <Eleaf> redguy, ... hold on.
[10:45] <Amaranth> redguy: Please don't shout.
[10:45] <redguy> whoops, sorry
[10:45] <sgtbaker> Cooooookies
[10:45] <cdubya> heh
[10:45] <redguy> caps too close to tab :/
[10:45] <cdubya> hope it's oreos
[10:46] <sgtbaker> me too
[10:46] <sgtbaker> Well there appears to be nothing going wrong with anybodys distro of Ubuntu at the moment!
[10:46] <redwolf> nope, gj everyone
[10:46] <aeolist> sgtbaker, dont say that, i have 5 ppl on my msn list complaining atm
[10:47] <sgtbaker> hahahahahaha
[10:47] <osfameron> any suggestions for compiling Vim7 with perl interace?
[10:47] <osfameron> checking if compile and link flags for Perl are sane... no: PERL DISABLED
[10:47] <htrp> what's the package name for php?
[10:48] <osfameron> (is the error I'm getting)
[10:48] <Eleaf> redguy, I don't know, doesn't say.  Why should it matter?
[10:48] <Eleaf> redguy, it's built in ethernet.
[10:48] <svenne> _Jason: how to enable it?i dont get IT!
[10:48] <svenne> :/
[10:49] <redwolf> anyone got that page for compiling E17 on ubuntu?
[10:49] <svenne> i did it ;)
[10:49] <redwolf> E17 = new enlightenment
[10:49] <redguy> !tell redwolf about e17
[10:49] <gridblock> redwolf, Enlightenment suck :P
[10:49] <svenne> how to install a burnprogram?
[10:50] <redwolf> thx redguy
[10:50] <redwolf> gridblock: I haven't tried it yet...I'm sure I'll find out
[10:50] <redguy> Eleaf: well, propably it matters which ethernet card is it, since it doesn't work as far as I understand
[10:50] <Eleaf> uhm?
[10:50] <Eleaf> lol
[10:51] <Eleaf> I just need to know the command gnome-network-admin uses to 'configure' a card.
[10:51] <rambo3> svenne, http://ubuntu-se.org/Wiki/K3B?highlight=%28k3b%29
[10:51] <Eleaf> writes eth0 in ifconfig
[10:51] <harm> i apt-get install wine.. but it doesnt show the ~/.wine/etc..
[10:51] <harm> what now?
[10:51] <redguy> Eleaf: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:51] <cdubya> htrp, which version?
[10:51] <Eleaf> eek
[10:51] <redguy> Eleaf: but try to read man config before that
[10:51] <redguy> erm
[10:52] <redguy> Eleaf: man interfaces
[10:52] <Blippe> should i buy an ati or a nvidea card?
[10:52] <htrp> cdubya, already got it
[10:52] <htrp> installed php5
[10:52] <arrick> hey, If I downloaded a .tar file to a ntfs partition, why can't I access it through the file manager in ubuntu?
[10:52] <redguy> Eleaf: if you want it to come up at boot remember to put an 'auto eth0' line in the interfaces file
[10:52] <tristanmike> Blippe: nVidia
[10:52] <Eleaf> k thanks..
[10:52] <arrick> I can view the file in XP, but not ubuntu
[10:52] <cdubya> htrp, k.
[10:53] <Falstius> arrick: permissions.
[10:53] <redguy> Eleaf: and use ifup and ifdown to bring the interface up or down, not ifconfig, since AFAIK it doesn't use the interfaces file
[10:53] <antisocial_boris> basically what i need to know are the bash commands to open things like my music player etc
[10:53] <Eleaf> redguy, yes I know
[10:54] <arrick> Falstius, nope set that last night so I could view the drive, and I can see everything else, and downloaded it while in ubuntu
[10:54] <arrick> but cna tsee it in here
[10:54] <budluva> anyone here using dapper, and the newest ATI fglrx drivers (8.23.7), im looking through my Xorg.0.log after a system lock up, and im seeing that its having a bunch of problems loading DRI and DRM....complete Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.com/629627 could someone please take a look at see what is going on? i think the errors could be because i added a symlink to get accellerated opengl as stated in the ati howto...but i don't know how t
[10:54] <budluva> o reverse or remove a symlink, any help?
[10:54] <Falstius> arrick: I bet it is still a permissions problem in one way or another :)
[10:54] <arrick> ok
[10:55] <redguy> !tell budluva about dapper
[10:55] <sfar> how do i apply .diff patches?
[10:55] <rambo3> >
[10:55] <roune> whats the easiest way to get SDL working on ubuntu?
[10:55] <Falstius> arrick: you could go there in the terminal and try "tar tf file.tar" that will list its contents.
[10:55] <arrick> ok
[10:55] <pierre__> roune: sudo apt-get install SDL
[10:56] <seraphire> anyone got a recommendation for a streaming MP3 player for ubuntu?
[10:56] <arrick> how do I change directory into the drive? Falstius
[10:56] <roune> "coudltn fine the package SDL"
[10:56] <Andrulo> wwwha
[10:56] <roune> find*
[10:56] <Falstius> arrick: cd /windowsdrive
[10:56] <arrick> ok
[10:56] <capiCrimm> can someone past an /etc/profile script to pastebin for me. I just overwrote mine. :\
[10:56] <cafuego_> jut reinstall it
[10:57] <rambo3> sfar, i think its : patch -p1 < name.diff
[10:57] <seraphire> capiCrimm: I would but I don't know how to do that yet.
[10:57] <pierre__> roune: sudo apt-get install libSDL1.2-all
[10:57] <pierre__> roune: try this
[10:58] <rambo3> !patch
[10:58] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo3
[10:58] <arrick> Falstius, if I type in 'cd /media/portable' that should change me to the directory right?
[10:58] <Falstius> arrick: that looks right
[10:58] <kRaKoN> !server
[10:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[10:58] <arrick> says there is no such directory
[10:58] <bon__> is there a wolf in here
[10:58] <redwolf> bon_: howl
[10:59] <Ez> hey, guys. this is probably a really dumb question, but how do i install linux?
[10:59] <Falstius> arrick: try "mount" it should tell you where everything is mounted.
[10:59] <Falstius> Ez, put the CD in the slot and hit enter.
[10:59] <Ez> sweet
[10:59] <bon__> redwolf: no joy it would load kde
[10:59] <arrick> ok
[10:59] <Falstius> Ez, then follow the instructions ;)
[10:59] <redwolf> bon_: so it's still not loading at boot?
[11:00] <Ez> thank you
[11:00] <arrick> ok got it
[11:00] <Ez> does it do that when i boot up my computer?
[11:00] <cdubya> Ez, as long as your CD is the first boot drive
[11:00] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ehm... didn't get much out of the mount thing..... Still can't se files in windows
[11:00] <Ez> alright, thank you.
[11:00] <seraphire> so, no takers on the streaming MP3 program?
[11:01] <redwolf> bon_: let me see your new fstab
[11:01] <bon__> redwolf: dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,atime,rw,no,dev,user 0 0
[11:01] <roune> pierre__ well, it looked like it downloaded some stuff ;D , but, i tried the code from http://lazyfooproductions.com/SDL_tutorials/lesson01/linux/cli/index.php , and that doesnt work.. maybe im doing something wrong? ^^
[11:01] <arrick> Falstius, man its not coming up still,
[11:01] <Nogimics> Is there a way to see how much Internet Bandwidth my Ubuntu box is using from commandline? I am SSH into it?
[11:01] <redwolf> bon_: nvm
[11:01] <arrick> I'll redownload
[11:01] <josean> hola
[11:01] <arrick> its rute's exposition
[11:01] <redwolf> bon_: take out that 'no' in there
[11:01] <josean> from spain
[11:01] <cdubya> !es
[11:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:01] <bon__> redwolf: nvm?
[11:01] <pierre__> roune: you must install also SDL-devel
[11:01] <redwolf> bon_: and you might want to change to 'noatime' instead
[11:01] <redguy> seraphire: http://www.google.com/search?q=streaming+MP3+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[11:01] <Nogimics> Is there a way to see how much Internet Bandwidth my Ubuntu box is using from commandline? I am SSH into it? some sort of bandwidth monitor
[11:02] <capiCrimm> no one can paste their /etc/profile?
[11:02] <redwolf> bon_: I was asking you to show the fstab, but you showed that lime
[11:02] <kRaKoN> how can I sincronize a PALM with ubuntu?
[11:02] <josean> quein habla espaol
[11:02] <seraphire> capiCrimm: just did.
[11:02] <redguy> !es
[11:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:02] <seraphire> It took me a bit to figure it out.
[11:02] <seraphire> wrong name tho.  It's listed as being posted but /etc/profile *duh*
[11:02] <roune> pierre__ is there a apt-get thing for that to? ^^
[11:02] <redwolf> bon_: in other words, line should read: dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime,rw,dev,user 0 0
[11:02] <bon__> redwolf: i will just take it out then
[11:02] <kbrooks> is ther a gst-register (not gst-register-0.8) in ubuntu?
[11:03] <kbrooks> !find gst-register
[11:03] <kRaKoN> josean yo
[11:03] <kRaKoN> josean puedes entrar a #ubuntu-es
[11:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'gst-register' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/gst-register-0.8) in libs/libgstreamer0.8-0.
[11:03] <seraphire> thanks redguy
[11:03] <kRaKoN> how can I sincronize a PALM with ubuntu?
[11:03] <cdubya> JPilot?
[11:03] <redwolf> bon__: noatime makes the filesystem a bit faster... other than that, it should boot with ubuntu
[11:04] <redwolf> bon__: take that back...*even with that* it should boot with ubuntuy
[11:04] <capiCrimm> seraphire, thanks :D
[11:04] <cdubya> kRaKoN, JPilot maybe?
[11:04] <bon__> redwolf: is it something to do with permisions
[11:04] <seraphire> Glad I could help.
[11:04] <redwolf> bon__: is the mount command still working?
[11:05] <kRaKoN> cdubya but how do I mount the USB port on /dev/pilot?
[11:06] <siriusnova> Hello is there any way to update x.org to 6.9 in 5.10 so that dri works?
[11:06] <Nogimics> Is there a way to see how much Internet Bandwidth my Ubuntu box is using from commandline? I am SSH into it? some sort of bandwidth monitor
[11:06] <redwolf> kRaKoN: trying to mount a palm pilot?
[11:06] <Spec> Nogimics: mtr
[11:07] <Spec> wait, wait
[11:07] <oskude> Nogimics, "iptraf" could help
[11:07] <Spec> I meant, mrtg
[11:07] <kRaKoN> redwolf: yes could you help me?
[11:07] <redwolf> kRaKoN: sure
[11:07] <cdubya> kRaKoN, sorry, I'm no help on that one....just knew you could try that app with it. :(
[11:07] <Spec> ethstatus - console based ethernet statistics monitor
[11:08] <redwolf> kRaKoN: first of all, get jpilot...it's the most reliable program with the palm
[11:08] <bon__> redwolf: its not working cos i cant remeber how i had it before cos i had to delte it to get into kde
[11:08] <Nogimics> just ran mtr, not quite sure what its doing mind lol, iptraf any better?
[11:08] <kRaKoN> cdubya, thanks anyway
[11:08] <kRaKoN> redwolf, okay
[11:08] <redwolf> bon__: oh, you deleted all your config files and such?
[11:09] <bon__> redwolf: no just that line
[11:09] <redwolf> kRaKoN: k, now... it will mount to /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1
[11:09] <bon__> /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,atime,rw,no,dev,user 0 0
[11:09] <redwolf> set jpilot to read from one..and change to the other if it doesn't work
[11:09] <bon__> redwolf: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,atime,rw,no,dev,user 0 0
[11:09] <sfar> phew, i just read the gcc manual ...
[11:09] <hawaisurf> jason_: hi again...now it works but I installed Nedit too but now I cannot find the application in my menu......:) you know why?
[11:09] <redwolf> it won't see it unless yout start the sync command on the palm BEFORE on jpilot
[11:10] <redwolf> bon__: lemme see
[11:10] <kRaKoN> redwolf, thanks a lot bro, I can start with that.. c ya around!
[11:10] <redwolf> bon__: so that's the line you have now
[11:10] <siriusnova> can anyone help me getting dri to work on my ati radeon 7500 mobility ?
[11:10] <redwolf> kRaKoN: np
[11:10] <bon__> redwolf: yip
[11:10] <redwolf> kRaKoN: lemme know if you have problems
[11:10] <redwolf> bon__: k
[11:10] <siriusnova> it doesnt work in 5.10 and ive been "told" to update to x.org. 6.9 to get it to work
[11:10] <redwolf> bon__: line should read: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime, rw,user
[11:11] <redwolf> err, scratch that
[11:11] <redwolf> bon__: line should read: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime, rw,user 0 0
[11:11] <bon__> redwolf: ok
[11:11] <redwolf> bon__: are you sure it's ext3...you told me it was ext2 earlier?
[11:12] <hawaisurf> I installed one aplication in Synaptic but I cannot find the program in my menu...anybody can help me? thx..
[11:13] <bon__> redwolf :yeah i am sure, it says its already mounted
[11:14] <wd3> just installed fluxbox with synaptic and when i ran it at terminal i got this .....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11071
[11:14] <redwolf> bon__: k, then that line should do it
[11:14] <bon__> redwolf : ok i try it agian
[11:14] <heroin> is there a way to upgrade openoffice1.x to 2.x or should i remove and install it?
[11:15] <doubletwist> heroin I think when you install oo.o2, it asks if you want to convert your settings and what not the first time you run it [at least it did this in Windows, I haven't tried in Linux yet] 
[11:16] <Root_Of_All_Evil> wd3 did you try to start fluxbox from a terminal while gnome or kde is still runnign?
[11:16] <heroin> so just apt-get 2 and hope its overrides 1?
[11:16] <Eleaf> yar
[11:17] <wd3> Root_Of_All_Evil, terminal while gnome still running.
[11:17] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Need help with mounting.... wont work *booohooo*
[11:17] <doubletwist> heroin Why, do you have a lot of custom settings for 1?
[11:17] <Eleaf> What are the configuration options for proftpd to 'masquaret' (whatever it is called) and choose the passive port range?
[11:17] <Eleaf> for ftp
[11:18] <soundray> heroin, OOo 1 and 2 coexist peacefully in breezy.
[11:18] <Root_Of_All_Evil> wd3 allright thats it. fluxbox is a window manager like gnome, you should not be able to run both. you might want to log out, and switch your gdm session to fluxbox, then log in again
[11:19] <heroin> doubletwist i have no custom settings
[11:19] <heroin> soundray i just want 2 :)
[11:19] <wd3> Root_Of_All_Evil, oh ok, so everytime i log in will i have to choose fluxbox session?
[11:19] <doubletwist> heroin Then there is no 'upgrading' that needs to be done. just apt-get install 2 [and if you want apt-get remove 1] 
[11:19] <doubletwist> er wait
[11:19] <arrick> Anyone know how I can download a copy of Rute's Book through terminal?
[11:20] <soundray> heroin: I second doubletwist
[11:20] <Root_Of_All_Evil> wd3: if you switch to fluxbox in gdm session menu, it will ask you whether you wish to default to fluxbox or not
[11:20] <heroin> soundray and doubletwist thank you for your wisdom :)
[11:20] <doubletwist> Hah! Wisdom he says. :)
[11:20] <soundray> lol
[11:20] <heroin> :)
[11:20] <Root_Of_All_Evil> wd3: if you like fluxbox, just say yes
[11:21] <heroin> its beter then no thanks
[11:21] <bon_> redwolf: think i am doing something wrong it comes up with [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab  ---->   /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime, rw,user 0 0
[11:21] <redwolf> bon__: pastebin your entire /etc/fstab
[11:21] <bon_> ok
[11:22] <TSCHAK> is there a listing of minimum processor and ram requirements for ubuntu ?
[11:22] <soundray> bon_, just add a newline (hit return) at the end of the last line of /etc/fstab
[11:22] <oskude> bon_, warnings are mostly not crucial, errors are bad... and that warning sais it all, you "need" an empty line in the end of that file
[11:22] <soundray> TSCHAK: no, because it's a bit of a moving target
[11:22] <bon_> redwolf: lol is that it
[11:22] <bon_> redwolf: http://pastebin.com/629681
[11:22] <redwolf> bon__: try it, probably is
[11:22] <soundray> TSCHAK: it depends on what you want to do with it.
[11:23] <cva> which file does cups write it's webuser authentication to?
[11:23] <redwolf> bon__: also, you have a space in there
[11:23] <wd3> Root_Of_All_Evil,  thanks i'll try that.
[11:23] <TSCHAK> soundray, basic office machine.
[11:23] <redwolf> bon__: between noatime, and rw
[11:23] <soundray> TSCHAK: tell us what you have, and we can tell you what you can do with it&ubuntu.
[11:23] <redwolf> bon__: get rid of it
[11:24] <TSCHAK> soundray, i am installing it on my fiancee's machine until she can get a new box.. it's a 300mhz P2 with 200 megs of ram.
[11:24] <bon_> redwolf: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime,rw,user 0 0 ---->[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:24] <arrick> how do I search my entire drive for a file?
[11:24] <redwolf> bon__: and do what soundary and oskude do...
[11:24] <arrick> when I dont know the name?
[11:24] <soundray> TSCHAK: I have a Celeron 300MHz laptop and 192 MB of RAM. It crawls with gnome, but it's okay with XFCE (xubuntu).
[11:25] <redwolf> err, say to do
[11:25] <DJ_Tobias> what line do you put in menu.lst to make the boot text smaller.. /vesafs ?
[11:25] <Mister> #ubuntu-es
[11:25] <tahband> DCC SEND "RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE" 0 0 0
[11:25] <tahband> DCC SEND "RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE" 0 0 0
[11:25] <tahband> DCC SEND "RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE" 0 0 0
[11:25] <tahband> DCC SEND "RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE" 0 0 0
[11:25] <Spudchat> anyone know of a game like worms for linux?
[11:25] <tahband> DCC SEND "RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE" 0 0 0
[11:25] <Spudchat> dude
[11:25] <redwolf> oww, it bleeds
[11:25] <Mister> 8[11:25] <Spudchat> you suck
[11:25] <cva> arrick, do you know part of the name?
[11:25] <arrick> tahband: cut it out
[11:25] <arrick> yeah rute's
[11:25] <TSCHAK> soundray, problem is, XFCE sucks...so....baaadlly.
[11:25] <arrick> its his boom
[11:26] <arrick> but its zipped, and not in home directory
[11:26] <cva> locate rute
[11:26] <arrick> ok
[11:26] <soundray> TSCHAK: I haven't tried fluxbox, but some people here like it.
[11:26] <cva> is that part of the zip file name?
[11:26] <arrick> yeah
[11:26] <redwolf> TSCHAK: fluxbox = nice
[11:26] <TSCHAK> soundray, i have, and have known all the *boxes ever since Blackbox
[11:26] <bon_> redwolf: sorry what did they say - i rebooted
[11:26] <TSCHAK> this is for my girlfriend
[11:26] <TSCHAK> not for me
[11:26] <arrick> nothing
[11:26] <bobbyd> Spudchat, worms? under wine?
[11:26] <doubletwist> TSCHAK XFCE Rocks! What's wrong with you? :)
[11:27] <redwolf> bon_: add an extra blank line to the end of /etc/fstab
[11:27] <Spudchat> bobbyd so far its a no go for me
[11:27] <Spudchat> looks like its workin, then dies
[11:27] <bon_> redwolf: i did that still no joy
[11:27] <TSCHAK> doubletwist, my mom couldn't use it... my mom can use gnome. ergo, i don't think my girlfriend can approach XFCE, but she can approach gnome.
[11:27] <redwolf> bon_: hmm, still gives that error?
[11:27] <bobbyd> Spudchat, cedega
[11:27] <arrick> cva It didnt bring anything up in terminal
[11:27] <Spudchat> hmm ok thanks ill check into it
[11:27] <soundray> TSCHAK: well, my ex-girlfriend uses that Celeron, and she's happy with it and gnome.
[11:27] <TSCHAK> soundray, i'll try it.
[11:28] <doubletwist> Why can't your mom use it? It's kind of similar to a MAC [especially if you have something running to put icons on the desktop] .
[11:28] <xerophyte> say if i have the package name how can i get description of the package .. from apt ?? whichis not installed
[11:28] <redwolf> bon_: and it's not mounting by default
[11:28] <soundray> TSCHAK, but then, she had a Mac Color Classic with 16MHz before that...
[11:28] <redwolf> ?
[11:28] <Eleaf> hey...
[11:28] <doubletwist> Not only that, but since when is 'my mom couldn't figure it out' the measuring stick for when something sucks? :)
[11:28] <calamari> hi
[11:28] <Eleaf> Is anybody using nmapfe?
[11:28] <doubletwist> My mom can barely figure out the telephone, doesn't mean they suck. hehe
[11:29] <cva> arrick, how long has the file been on your system? more than a day?
[11:29] <bon_> redwolf: http://pastebin.com/629693
[11:29] <arrick> about 10 minutes
[11:29] <arrick> downloaded through firefox
[11:29] <takoman> Hello ! somebody can help me ? I have some problems with ATI video card !
[11:29] <redwolf> bon_: k, hang on
[11:29] <cva> arrick, find ~|grep rute
[11:29] <TSCHAK> doubletwist, no trashcan, no file manager, no integration, a program launcher does NOT a desktop make.
[11:30] <doubletwist> TSCHAK Funny, my XFCE came with a file manager.
[11:30] <takoman> I have X600SE Radeon 254MG ATI
[11:30] <takoman> I have problems help me please
[11:30] <arrick> permission denied cva
[11:30] <doubletwist> TSCHAK and no integration with what?
[11:30] <ablyss> anyone have problems w/ gam_server and ubuntu + konqueror?
[11:30] <DJ_Tobias> anybody know the line to add in menu.lst that makes the text smaller on boot? is it /vesafs ?
[11:30] <calamari> doubletwist: does xfce allow movable desktop icons?
[11:31] <Jaga> How do I get sound working without latency? xmms shows a delay, games especially
[11:31] <takoman> somebody can help me ?
[11:31] <redwolf> bon_: replace your /etc/fstab with this:
[11:31] <TSCHAK> oh sorry, my stuff got mixed.. yeah, xfce comes with one, but it's so... clunky... it feels like something a technical person would use.
[11:31] <ablyss> takoman whats the problem
[11:31] <redwolf> bon_:http://pastebin.com/629698
[11:31] <holobyted> anyone know where to get this metacity patch? (for 2.12) -- http://home.uchicago.edu/~chad/metacity/
[11:31] <ds[de] > takoman: why don't you just ask the question, then people will see whether they can help you or not
[11:31] <TSCHAK> I mixed the conversation about fluxbox with the conversation about xfce
[11:31] <doubletwist> calamari The next version will, and there is software to allow it in current versions. Some people use ROX. Personally, I use a nautilus desktop with XFCE to give me the desktop icons and file-manager. Not a great solution, but it's still better than a full gnome desktop for me.
[11:31] <TSCHAK> :-D
[11:32] <cva> arrick, sudo /etc/cron.daily/slocate ; locate rute
[11:32] <dargon> hi, ya im a noob on ubuntu,, but is it possible to install msn, Know that the ordienery "microsoft" dosent work
[11:32] <doubletwist> hehe
[11:32] <TSCHAK> and ROX is as insane as the RiscOS it replicates
[11:32] <arrick> cva, I downloaded a html file of Rute's exposoition, adn i cant find it
[11:32] <oskude> DJ_Tobias, if you add "vga=791" to the end of the "kernel" line, your text modus will be 1024x768x32bit (or was it 800x600) ...
[11:32] <arrick> thanks
[11:32] <ablyss> takoman, you shouldn't ask to ask... just ask and someone will help if they know the answer
[11:32] <calamari> doubletwist: cool!
[11:32] <htrp> if you got something in rpm, how do you install it in debian-based os?
[11:32] <TSCHAK> htrp, sudo apt-get install alien
[11:32] <DJ_Tobias> oskude, isnt there something with vesafs ?
[11:32] <ds[de] > dargon: I think you can use gaim to chat with people on msnm, but I might be wrong
[11:32] <TSCHAK> htrp, then sudo alien <package.rpm>
[11:32] <oskude> DJ_Tobias, dunno
[11:33] <doubletwist> TSCHAK & calamari: Seriously, try XFCE with a nautilus desktop running [you'll have to ad the XFCE menu to the panel] . It works great, esp with gnome-volume-manager running to automount cd's and usb drives.
[11:33] <TSCHAK> htrp, then sudo dpkg -i <new_package.deb>
[11:33] <dargon> okej
[11:33] <bon_> redwolf: ok i try reboot agian
[11:33] <redwolf> bon_: wait
[11:33] <TSCHAK> doubletwist, ok
[11:33] <cva> dargon, gaim does msn
[11:33] <redwolf> bon_: try just a mount first
[11:33] <arrick> cva nothing showed up
[11:33] <htrp> TSCHAK, then after that, what do i do?
[11:33] <calamari> doubletwist: so I can just apt-get it?  will it screw up gnome?
[11:33] <doubletwist> or you can try the latest XFCE by installing 'zenwalk'
[11:33] <TSCHAK> htrp, I gave ya the instructions above...  once you run alien, it creates a .deb package that you can install with dpkg -i
[11:34] <dargon> okej,, i already got gaim on the computer,, :p
[11:34] <bostro> A lot of pussy here?
[11:34] <cva> arrick, locate -i rute
[11:34] <bon_> redwolf: it comes up with [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:34] <bon_> mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /home/bon busy
[11:34] <bon_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda5 is already mounted on /home/bon
[11:34] <TSCHAK> htrp, it works best if you use Fedora Core 4 packages
[11:34] <bon_> oops
[11:34] <dargon> but i cnat install the sh*t
[11:34] <doubletwist> calamari Yeah you can apt-get install xubuntu-desktop if you want [in universe] . It won't effect your gnome. You'll just have to select the session from gdm when you log in.
[11:34] <TSCHAK> htrp, particularly commercial apps that package in that format, i.e. Skype and Limewire
[11:34] <bostro> ok. Goodbay.
[11:34] <arrick> nada cva
[11:34] <ablyss> TSCHAK, you can do sudo alien --install filename.rpm and not worry about dpkg
[11:34] <calamari> doubletwist: ahh, excellent
[11:34] <TSCHAK> htrp, that way you get your desktop icons in the right place.
[11:34] <redwolf> bon_: k, first unmount /dev/hda5
[11:34] <TSCHAK> ablyss, ohhh cool, i didn't know that
[11:34] <htrp> ic
[11:34] <ds[de] > dargon: install what, you said it's already on the computer ?!
[11:34] <htrp> ill try it
[11:34] <redwolf> bon_: then make sure that blank line is at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:35] <cva> arrick, then that isn't part of the file name. why not dl it again?
[11:35] <arrick> cva, I had to drop the - from the i
[11:35] <dargon> yes,, well i got the damn .rar file or whats its called in ubuntu :p
[11:35] <doubletwist> calamari although installing xubuntu-desktop will change the boot graphics to say Xubuntu. :) if you don't want that you can just install xfce4 [and search in Synaptic for "xfce" to install various utilities, toys, themes etc] 
[11:35] <calamari> I created a .crontab file as root, and ran crontab .crontab.. does this cancel out the entries set in /etc/crontab ?
[11:35] <ds[de] > dargon; I don't get it, are we still talking about gaim?
[11:35] <dargon> yes,:p hehe
[11:35] <doubletwist> arrick What issue are you having now? :)
[11:36] <DJ_Tobias> '/vmlinuz-2.6.15.6 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash video=vesafb  vga=791' look good?
[11:36] <calamari> doubletwist: ahh, that's a better solution probably :)
[11:36] <redwolf> bon_: then try mounting again
[11:36] <dargon> i have downloaded the file, its a compressed file,,
[11:36] <ds[de] > dargon; as you said, it is already installed if you did a normal install
[11:36] <soundray> calamari: weird idea. I suspect it runs both crontabs.
[11:36] <dargon> dont you havto un zip it and install ore what!
[11:36] <cva> arrick, it should work with -i meaning not case sensitive
[11:36] <ds[de] > dargon; Applications -> Internet -> ... it should show up here
[11:36] <doubletwist> calamari re crontab: I have no idea. I usually just run 'crontab -e' to edit my personal crontab.
[11:36] <rekrutacja> hi i have a problem with sound on my laptop - it's dead. i do not remeber me doing anything dangerous. system is vanilla breezy. how to check what is wrong?
[11:36] <dargon> okej,, freaky,,
[11:36] <dargon> it did :p
[11:36] <ds[de] > dargon; lol it's not freaky ;)
[11:37] <soundray> rekrutacja: follow ubotu's links
[11:37] <soundray> !sound
[11:37] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:37] <haha> hey i need help ... how do u burn a data cd?
[11:37] <arrick> doubletwist, cant find the file I downloaded of rutes book, cva the - had to be taken off the i to get the command to work
[11:37] <dargon> im used to windows, atleast 5 min install :P
[11:37] <ds[de] > dargon; well, opening your eyes sometimes helps alot ;)
[11:37] <harm> hi all
[11:37] <doubletwist> arrick Have you changed the default in Firefox? It defaults to putting the file on your Desktop
[11:37] <haha> how do u burn a data cd?
[11:37] <bjron> by default, ubuntu does not look in /usr/local/lib for shared libraries, is that correct?
[11:37] <soundray> haha: try k3b or gnomebaker
[11:37] <arrick> man all the links are broken to the pdf file
[11:38] <arrick> not on my desktop doubletwist
[11:38] <haha> where do i find that?
[11:38] <cva> arrick, locate -V
[11:38] <dargon> hehe,, hoho thx alot there :p, well its the first time i intall ore even se some one operating linux:P
[11:38] <arrick> doubletwist, the only way I can get the file is a zipped htl
[11:38] <calamari> haha: synaptic
[11:39] <takoman> hello ablyss yestesday I was installing the last driver of ATI but when I changed in the xorg.conf the vesa driver I could'nt see someting in my machine
[11:39] <doubletwist> arrick Well, last resort you can run 'updatedb' wait for it to finish then run 'locate $FILENAME'
[11:39] <heroin> iam having a hard time deciding if i like X-chat or Konversation more :D
[11:39] <arrick> ok
[11:39] <doubletwist> heroin Which do you use as a desktop, gnome or kde? [or other] 
[11:39] <cva> doubletwist,  I had him run /etc/cron.daily/slocate
[11:39] <Ph03n1x> KDE
[11:39] <doubletwist> cva ok that works too :)
[11:40] <Ph03n1x> doubletwist i use KDE.. but i like the ident feature a lot
[11:40] <bon_> redwolf: sorry my bro's got computer problem too - spyware hahaha - how do you unmount
[11:40] <dargon> how the fuck do i change the keybord,, want swedish stile,, cant youse som special leters
[11:40] <haha> it didnt find it
[11:40] <redwolf> bon_: umount /dev/hda5
[11:40] <haha> now what do i do?
[11:40] <takoman> somebody has some experience wih ATI X600se
[11:40] <takoman> ?
[11:40] <redwolf> bon_: it's okay, I'm not going anywhere for a while
[11:40] <arrick> hey doubletwist, I tried that and it said fatal error: updatedb: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!
[11:40] <doubletwist> arrick oops, need 'sudo updatedb' gotta be root. Sorry
[11:40] <arrick> ok
[11:41] <doubletwist> arrick but if you ran the slocate, it's already up-to-date.
[11:41] <bon_> bash: unmount/dev/hda5: No such file or directory
[11:41] <haha> help me please!
[11:41] <polpak> takoman, what's the problem?
[11:41] <polpak> !patience
[11:41] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[11:41] <arrick> I didnt know I ran it
[11:41] <bon_> redwol: bash: unmount/dev/hda5: No such file or directory
[11:41] <Blippe> haha, what are you up to?
[11:41] <doubletwist> arrick Ah, cva said he suggested you run /etc/cron.daily/slocate [as root]  does the same as updatedb
[11:41] <LinuxNoob> finally i found a perfect way to mount a windows ntfs partition
[11:42] <soc10path> anyone have any comments on ubuntu on a vaio
[11:42] <arrick> oh ok
[11:42] <redwolf> bon_: umount
[11:42] <LinuxNoob> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php
[11:42] <redwolf> bon_: not unmount
[11:42] <soundray> haha: do you know about repositories?
[11:42] <ds[de] > bon_ and put a space between umount and /dev/hda5
[11:42] <haha> i need to burn a data cd
[11:42] <arrick> i'll re dl
[11:42] <takoman> somebody has experience with ATI drivers X600se ?
[11:42] <cva> arrick, why not redownload the file? it sounds like it isn't or you have the name wrong
[11:42] <haha> with pictures and files
[11:42] <doubletwist> takoman Sorry, I only use nVidia cards.
[11:42] <bon_> redwol: bash: unmount/dev/hda5: No such file or directory
[11:43] <haha> i need to burn cds with images and documents
[11:43] <soundray> haha: do you know about repositories?
[11:43] <haha> no
[11:43] <polpak> haha, nautilus can do it..
[11:43] <Blippe> if you start synaptic (in ubuntu) or adept (in kubuntu) you will be able to find and install gnomebaker or k3b and from that program burn a datacd!
[11:43] <redwolf> bon: um....
[11:43] <haha> i tried it doesnt work
[11:43] <redwolf> bon_: umount, not unmount
[11:43] <polpak> haha, just double click your cdrom drive under Places->Computer
[11:43] <haha> ok
[11:43] <redwolf> bon_: the command is: umount /dev/hda5
[11:44] <bon_> oh hahah
[11:44] <polpak> haha, it'll open a window you can drag/drop files into
[11:44] <haha> u serious
[11:44] <haha> ?
[11:44] <polpak> haha, then just click burn cd
[11:44] <haha> sweet thanx dude
[11:44] <HelloKnoppix> hello? i have a problem. my problem concerns the harddrive im trying to install kubuntu onto, it shows up as 8gb in win, bios and in knoppix, but during the kubuntu install (and partition) its only 2.1gb. does anyone know a way to change this?
[11:44] <polpak> haha, it'll work so long as you have a writable CD in the drive
[11:44] <cva> which file does cups store it's webuser authentication to?
[11:45] <ds[de] > polpak, I didn't know about that, thanks alot ;)
[11:45] <polpak> ds[de] , =)
[11:45] <bon_> device is bizy
[11:46] <bon_> redwolf: device is bizy
[11:46] <redwolf> bon_: make sure nothing is in /home/bon, not even terminals
[11:46] <mcquaid> trying to get this old voodoo3 working, as my gf4 burnt out
[11:46] <cva> bon_, sudo lsof | grep hda5
[11:46] <redwolf> bon_: hmm, also
[11:46] <takoman> anyperson has a ATI Video CARD ?
[11:46] <haha> yeah thx polpak
[11:46] <redwolf> bon_: you may have to log out if your user uses that directory...I'm guessing you do
[11:46] <haha> ure good help .. thanx man
[11:47] <polpak> haha, no problem
[11:47] <mcquaid> all opengl apps are giving me this error: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x25... but yet glxinfo says direct rendering is enabled
[11:47] <soundray> mcquaid: using the tdfx driver?
[11:47] <mcquaid> yes
[11:47] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: I'm sorry, I had to step away from my keyboard for a few minutes, did you get sorted out ?
[11:47] <arrick> how do I hide a folder on my desktop?
[11:47] <bobbyd_> hi
[11:48] <bon_> ok logout then come back in and umount /dev/hda5
[11:48] <redwolf> bon_: you know what
[11:48] <redwolf> bon_: it's too much trouble to do it that way
[11:48] <bobbyd_> is there a way to make apt-get ignore a broken package? (i.e. I want to keep a broken package but still update...)
[11:48] <TSCHAK> arrick, rename it, and put a period in front of it, mind you, you will not be able to see it once you do that again, without renaming it from the terminal.
[11:48] <mcquaid> everything seems set up correctly, xorg logs say dri is enabled, glxinfo says direct rendering yes but i get these opengl errors and then opengl apps crap out
[11:48] <soundray> mcquaid, have you seen this forum thread:
[11:48] <redwolf> bon_: as long as you put my /etc/fstab in
[11:48] <soundray> !forums 75512
[11:48] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 75512 is: OpenGL with Voodoo3 - Ubuntu Forums
[11:48] <arrick> ok
[11:48] <astral_cyborg> hello, I have installed ubuntu on a usb portable hard disk. My system's hard disk has windows installed. When I reboot the computer, how do I get the option to choose which OS I will use? (The GRUB is installed in the portable disk) Can I edit the boot.ini file from windows to make it work? If yes, what should I add there?
[11:48] <redwolf> bon_: just restart and see how it goes
[11:49] <bon_> ok
[11:49] <bon_> brb
[11:49] <mcquaid> soundray, probably, i've looked at every post i could find on v3 on ubuntu, gentoo boards, mailing lists
[11:49] <htrp> when i try to install 'alien', why do i get these messages:
[11:49] <htrp> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[11:49] <htrp>  'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)'
[11:49] <htrp> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[11:49] <htrp> sorry bout the paste
[11:49] <arrick> ok, I renamed it, how do I refresh so it doesnt show up?
[11:49] <roune> im having some larger problems, i cant start programs, (some programs) like firefox.. nothing happens when i try to start them.. any suggestions?
[11:49] <soundray> mcquaid: and did you heed the advice about 16 rather than 24 as the color depth?
[11:49] <mcquaid> yep
[11:50] <mcquaid> only have 16 listed in x.org
[11:50] <soundray> mcquaid: call me shallow, that's all I can think of.
[11:50] <ds[de] > astral_cyborg; I think this could help you out: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311578&sd=tech
[11:50] <mcquaid> heh np
[11:50] <mcquaid> soundray, do u have a voodoo card?
[11:50] <soundray> mcquaid: just one more thing: tdfx has kernel support...
[11:50] <rekrutacja> welcome bask. sound on my laptop is dead and general fix provided by ubbotu doesnt work. do you know how to check whats wrong?
[11:51] <soundray> mcquaid: yes, but it's been sitting in a drawer for a few years now.
[11:51] <rekrutacja> welcome back :-)
[11:51] <mcquaid> ok
[11:51] <soundray> mcquaid: somehow I developed a preference for onboard graphics...
[11:51] <takoman> Somebody Can help me with my ATI RADEON X600SE ?
[11:51] <crimsun> rekrutacja: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[11:51] <mcquaid> why did you mention tdfx with kernel support?
[11:51] <soundray> mcquaid: you may be more lucky with a fbdev setup.
[11:52] <soundray> mcquaid: or have you tried that too?
[11:52] <LinuxNoob> what program can extract rar files in linux?
[11:52] <frank23> !rar
[11:52] <ubotu> [rar]  a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[11:52] <mcquaid> no haven't tried fb
[11:52] <rekrutacja> crimsun, 0 [I440MX         ] : ICH - Intel 440MX
[11:52] <rekrutacja>                      Intel 440MX with STAC9756,57 at 0x2000, irq 10
[11:52] <mcquaid> thought fb was for hardware overlay for 2d stuff
[11:52] <rekrutacja> crimsun, it was working properly yesterday
[11:53] <sanpera> hello, anybody happen to know what package dvi2pdf is in?
[11:53] <arrick> ok, I renamed it, how do I refresh so it doesnt show up? TSCHAK
[11:53] <niki> help!  what should i do if i get this error??  :  configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:53] <soundray> mcquaid: now that you're saying it, I used fb drivers to get TV-out to work.
[11:53] <soundray> niki: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:54] <niki> soundray, ty :)
[11:54] <cva> arrick, logout and back in
[11:54] <arrick> ok
[11:55] <Jambon> why won't gnome let me use png files that aren't in /usr/share/pixmaps for an app launcher?
[11:55] <crimsun> rekrutacja: pastebin ``amixer -c0''
[11:55] <soundray> sanpera: are you sure there is such a program?
[11:56] <soundray> sanpera: I suggest you use pdftex/pdflatex, or the dvips - ps2pdf combination
[11:56] <rekrutacja> crimsun, this is a lot of data. paste it here?
[11:56] <sanpera> soundray: well I know its a program but i just don't know if its in ubuntu
[11:57] <sanpera> i have a debian user who wants to use it on our system
[11:57] <sanpera> so apparently its in debian, but i can't verify that
[11:57] <polpak> Jambon, it will. you just have to specify the path
[11:58] <Jambon> i tried
[11:58] <Jambon> i select browse, but all the png files are blocked out
[11:58] <Jambon> i can't select them
[11:58] <crimsun> rekrutacja: do not flood me in query
[11:58] <pulver> hi! im looking for graphical tool for noobs (preferably client side) to add "stuff" (like titles,text,images,documents) to a website without messing up the structure or layout. is there such a tool?
[11:58] <Blippe> pulver some uses screem
[11:58] <crimsun> rekrutacja: use the pastebin Web site; see the factoid
[11:59] <soundray> sanpera: I don't think it's in tetex, which is the TeX distribution that comes with Ubuntu.
[11:59] <polpak> Jambon, I have no problems with it..
[11:59] <ATIpro> somebody speak spanish ?
[11:59] <sanpera> soundray: ok thanks, i'll suggest to him to try out your pdflatex solution
[11:59] <Blippe> !es
[11:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:59] <pulver> Blippe: thanks for the tip, will check it out
[12:00] <rekrutacja> crimsun, sorry didn't know how to send you all results of command you provided
[12:00] <rekrutacja> crimsun, thank you http://pastebin.com/629757