| Riddell | Tonio_: uploaded knetworkmanager, thanks for doing that. thanks Lure too, you both rock | 12:05 |
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| kmon | a round of applause :) | 12:06 |
| === Pygi applauses | ||
| === OdyX applauses even. | ||
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| OdyX | Tm_T: thinking of an issue in your version of Kopete | 12:10 |
| Riddell | hello My8os | 12:11 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: in speaking dialog (MSN contact), webcam can be sent (I have no one) and received (my contact doesn't have any) - This should be detected.... | 12:11 |
| Lure | Riddell: will Flight6 include kde 3.5.2? | 12:12 |
| Riddell | Lure: yes | 12:12 |
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| Riddell | My8os: could you make a wiki page for KubuntuGreece | 12:12 |
| Lure | great - I hope it will install on my notebook (Flight 5 did not...) | 12:13 |
| raphink | mornfall: adept translated into french :) | 12:14 |
| My8os | Riddell: i'll give it a try | 12:14 |
| raphink | thanks to OdyX :) | 12:15 |
| My8os | just give me a pattern and i should write | 12:15 |
| Riddell | My8os: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuGreece | 12:15 |
| Riddell | Create new empty page | 12:15 |
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| Riddell | and put something in greek there along the lines of "#kubuntu-gr is the channel for the greek kubuntu community" | 12:16 |
| Riddell | put it in english too | 12:16 |
| OdyX | raphink: and to marseillai | 12:16 |
| raphink | yes, too : | 12:16 |
| raphink | ) | 12:16 |
| Riddell | then I'll put it on kubuntu.org | 12:16 |
| My8os | ok | 12:16 |
| Pygi | Lure: I need your help ...ping? | 12:17 |
| Lure | Pygi: pong | 12:18 |
| Pygi | Lure: please update dappernetworkmanager page for info on how to install vpn properties, and more info that is needed | 12:18 |
| Pygi | a lot of new info arisen | 12:18 |
| Lure | Pygi: better done by Tonio_ - he tested knm with VPN and it works nicely (seen some screenshots) | 12:19 |
| Pygi | Lure: yes, perhaps...but network-manager-gnome needs info as well | 12:19 |
| Lure | Pygi: issue is that n-m-vpn packages need to be accepted into Ubuntu - I think we need to ping Keybuk tommorow | 12:19 |
| Lure | probably together with 0.6.2 UVFe | 12:19 |
| Pygi | Lure: they are already accepted I think..:? | 12:20 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: approved! http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2215 | 12:21 |
| Lure | Pygi: only VPN code in n-m was left, but additional packages (add-ons) need to get in | 12:21 |
| kmon | kerry will be included in the default dekstop installation or it will need to be instaled from the repo? | 12:21 |
| Riddell | kmon: it'll be in universe like beagle | 12:21 |
| kmon | Riddell: ok, thanxs | 12:22 |
| Lure | Riddell: since beagle is cool, we may want to look into how to split it to multiple packages | 12:22 |
| Lure | I would like to reduce GNOME packages on my Kubuntu ;-) | 12:22 |
| kmon | That would be great :) | 12:22 |
| Lure | currently beagle package has everything... | 12:22 |
| Riddell | Lure: yes. it's not immediately obvious which packages are part of the gtk frontend, but it shouldn't be hard to find out if you know anything about mono | 12:22 |
| Riddell | s/packages/files/ | 12:22 |
| Lure | Riddell: I have some .NET developers as work that may help ;-) | 12:23 |
| Lure | actually I have thought to maybe research SuSE a bit as they might have already done it properly for RPM | 12:23 |
| kmon | There's a kind of review of kubuntu dapper in the editor's blog of tux magazine: http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000187 | 12:25 |
| Pygi | Lure: do we only need to include nm-vpn properties? | 12:26 |
| kmon | The last paragraph is quite nice. | 12:27 |
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| kmon | good night everyone | 12:29 |
| Riddell | "This brings up two questions: what does this five year number mean, and, well, why?" what in il-informed author | 12:30 |
| mornfall | raphink: does it work too? | 12:31 |
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| raphink | mornfall: what? | 12:38 |
| My8os | Riddell: ready ;) | 12:38 |
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| Riddell | My8os: can you add a title to that page, saying "Kubuntu Greece" but in Greek | 12:48 |
| mornfall | raphink: the translation | 12:49 |
| raphink | mornfall: untill the lang packages are rebuilt, I don't know | 12:49 |
| raphink | but it should | 12:49 |
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| My8os | Riddell: done | 12:53 |
| LeeJunFan | seems as though either hal or kde picked up a new bug over the last day or two with mounting usb devices. My mp3 player mounts and opens the window with it's contents, but the "mounting /dev/sdb1" window doesn't go away. | 12:54 |
| Riddell | My8os: http://kubuntu.org/ | 12:54 |
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| Riddell | night Lure | 12:55 |
| My8os | thats nice...thank u :) | 12:55 |
| Riddell | My8os: have you told the greek ubuntu people about #kubuntu-gr? | 12:56 |
| My8os | we (me and NoDgr) just started the hole effort. | 12:59 |
| My8os | so we will now spread the word | 01:00 |
| Riddell | !gr | 01:00 |
| Riddell | hmm, no bot | 01:00 |
| Riddell | My8os: you need to work out how to program ubotu | 01:03 |
| Riddell | to reply to !gr | 01:03 |
| Riddell | but I can never work out how to do that | 01:03 |
| Riddell | My8os: make sure the #ubuntu-gr people know about #kubuntu-gr, it's important for communities to stay in contact | 01:03 |
| My8os | ok | 01:04 |
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| Riddell | My8os: thanks for starting the kubuntu greece community :) | 01:04 |
| My8os | its our pleasure :) | 01:05 |
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| My8os | Riddell: if in the future we add a greek forum and i update the KubuntuGreece wiki, will it be shown automatically at kubuntu.org or should i contact u? | 01:22 |
| Riddell | My8os: just contact me | 01:23 |
| My8os | ok...and a last question...u said that i need to program ubotu, how do i do that ? :) | 01:24 |
| Riddell | My8os: see #kubuntu | 01:28 |
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| hendry | Riddell: lo? | 01:55 |
| Riddell | hendry: hi | 02:09 |
| hendry | Riddell: is expresso in Kubuntu live dailys? | 02:13 |
| Riddell | hendry: yes | 02:14 |
| Riddell | kdesu espresso kde-ui | 02:15 |
| Riddell | but only use it on a computer where you don't care about the contents of the hard disk | 02:15 |
| hendry | Riddell: ok | 02:17 |
| raphink | when is DF6 released ? | 02:23 |
| Riddell | raphink: tomorrow | 02:34 |
| raphink | really? :) | 02:34 |
| raphink | Riddell: are you doing it? | 02:34 |
| Riddell | raphink: please download iso images tonight then you can rsync them tomorrow morning and help test | 02:34 |
| raphink | Riddell: do you want my april wallpaper in ? | 02:35 |
| Riddell | raphink: Mithrandir is | 02:35 |
| raphink | if so, I can upload it tonight | 02:35 |
| raphink | well now I mean | 02:35 |
| Riddell | raphink: hmm, no, leave that for the dist-upgraders :) | 02:35 |
| raphink | hehe ok :) | 02:35 |
| raphink | so I'll put it tomorrow evening | 02:35 |
| raphink | :) | 02:35 |
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| Riddell | do we have kexi mdb packages? | 02:52 |
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| seth | so, is knetworkmanager in universe now? | 03:00 |
| seth | or is it still building, or what | 03:00 |
| Riddell | probably still in NEW | 03:00 |
| seth | ah | 03:01 |
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| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i have a question, not sure if it's for you or lure... | 03:36 |
| Riddell | I think Tonio_ is asleep | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | fair enough | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | hi Riddell, btw - this seems odd... | 03:38 |
| Riddell | what does? | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | having you online, and awake, at this time of day | 03:39 |
| Riddell | team meeting in 20 minutes | 03:43 |
| Riddell | poor old continental europeans have to wait until 04:00 | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | which team? | 03:43 |
| Riddell | ubuntu core-dev | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | ah, fun | 03:43 |
| Parkotron | Has the problem with the Display module been fixed in the Breezy 3.5.2 packages yet? | 03:45 |
| Riddell | we've replaced the display module in dapper | 03:46 |
| Parkotron | I'm aware, but I've been told that the Display module is missing entirely in the Breezy packages. | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | Parkotron: indeed, i found that out last night - tried to point someone to a non-existant location. | 03:47 |
| Parkotron | I'm currently upgrading, so I can't confirm that yet. | 03:47 |
| Parkotron | Is there a workaround or fix? | 03:48 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: er...what the heck did you do to the rss feed? it just gave me a really odd post... | 04:02 |
| Riddell | hmm? | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | kubuntu.org rss feed | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | - "" " Kubuntu " " ", " irc: #kubuntu-gr ", servers " irc.freenode.netThe Greek kubuntu community now has its own IRC channel: #kubuntu-gr at irc.freenode.net | 04:02 |
| Riddell | that'll be the greek :) | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | ah...so those symbols *would* actually be a language? | 04:03 |
| Riddell | hmm, it's not doing utf8 correctly | 04:03 |
| Riddell | ok, fixed | 04:03 |
| freeflying | Riddell: shall we add the "Display Desktop" shotcuts | 04:03 |
| Riddell | freeflying: to what? | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: *that* looks better! | 04:04 |
| === Hobbsee didnt really thing that fractions were letters in greek... | ||
| freeflying | Riddell: taskbar | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: that'd be good :D | 04:05 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: hehe | 04:06 |
| Riddell | freeflying: well we don't have anything on the desktop by default so it's not needed :) | 04:07 |
| freeflying | Riddell: it be used often by endusers after all , and they will put something on desktop | 04:08 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I'm unconvinced I'm afraid | 04:15 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: I went first, you missed my report :) | 04:15 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: darn! that was the one i wanted! | 04:15 |
| === Hobbsee will go look up the logs :P | ||
| Hobbsee | you're usually last, which is great! | 04:16 |
| Riddell | today is a reverse day | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | ugh, again? | 04:16 |
| Riddell | yeah I know, and I shouldn't even be at the end for some reason I'm after seb128 | 04:17 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/630114 | 04:17 |
| Riddell | hmm, just noticed silly typo I made in the last line there | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | thanks :) - logs arent updated yet :( | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | heh, yeah | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | did kde 3.5.2 end up going into main? | 04:19 |
| Riddell | yep | 04:19 |
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| Hobbsee | oh goody, so i can remove one more non-standard repo | 04:19 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: i killed 3 of the kdenetwork bugs yesterday, and set a few more to need info :) | 04:20 |
| Riddell | yay :) | 04:21 |
| Riddell | friday is bug day I think | 04:21 |
| Parkotron | Hobbsee: Did you find a workaround for the Display bug? | 04:22 |
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| Hobbsee | Parkotron: no i didnt, sorry | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah, i wont be around on my friday, probably no one else's either | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | darn uni, then work. and they mark my programming assignment - eek! | 04:22 |
| Parkotron | Hobbsee: That's alright, I use KRandRTray anyway. | 04:22 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: what's the assignment? | 04:24 |
| seth | hooray for 3.5.2 in main, it works a ton better | 04:25 |
| seth | now if we can just shove kopete 0.12 in there I'll do a dance | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: http://online.mq.edu.au/pub/COMP115/assignments/ass.html - assignment 1 we submitted about a week ago, assignment 2 is due in a month and a half, or something | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | they're doing style marking tomorrow - ack. | 04:26 |
| Riddell | wow, a uni that still teache C++ | 04:28 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah. what should they be teaching? | 04:29 |
| Riddell | if they can teach c++ that's all good, but the low level details of c++ would have got in the way of learing actual programming techniques with the cleverness of most of the people at my uni | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok | 04:31 |
| freeflying | Riddell: the problem I've told like this issue http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=114340511411469&w=2 | 04:32 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: and python or ruby makes things about 3 times faster to code :) | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:33 |
| === Hobbsee figures that anything she learns in the course will be more than she currently knows | ||
| Hobbsee | and besides that, i probably wont use it much in optoelectronics anyway... | 04:33 |
| Riddell | freeflying: hmm, could be the window decoration, for which we have a fix | 04:33 |
| freeflying | Riddell: but now , if the page have image , konq become damn slowly | 04:34 |
| freeflying | s/image/ big image | 04:34 |
| Riddell | freeflying: are you getting that problem? | 04:36 |
| freeflying | Riddell: ye | 04:37 |
| Riddell | freeflying: got an example webpage that causes the issue? | 04:37 |
| freeflying | Riddell: just a moment | 04:37 |
| freeflying | Riddell: when did we have that fix ? | 04:42 |
| Riddell | which fix? | 04:42 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: konqueror's slow | 04:43 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I can not reproduce it now | 04:43 |
| Riddell | :) | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall must have been playing with it | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as adept was screwed, then as soon as he wants to know about it, and we get an upgrade, it works fine, and no one can reproduce! | 04:45 |
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| robotgeek | weird, apt-get keeps upgrading kaddressbook | 05:37 |
| robotgeek | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/630183 | 05:41 |
| robotgeek | it someone can confirm, it might be a bug in apt? | 05:41 |
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| seaLne | robotgeek: i don't have any probs with kaddressbook | 07:57 |
| robotgeek | seaLne: neither do i, my problem went abway after a "apt-get clean" and "apt-get upgrade" | 08:03 |
| seaLne | strange | 08:04 |
| robotgeek | i have absolutely no idea what was wrong :P | 08:05 |
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| === seaLne wonders why the version of scribus in ubuntu is so old | ||
| freeflying-ibook | seaLne: upgrade it :) | 08:43 |
| seaLne | uvf | 08:43 |
| seaLne | but i'm going to build a package | 08:43 |
| freeflying-ibook | seaLne: work on which now ? | 08:44 |
| seaLne | sorry i'm not sure what you mean? | 08:45 |
| freeflying-ibook | seaLne: scribus | 08:46 |
| seaLne | sorry i'm still not sure what you mean | 08:46 |
| freeflying-ibook | seaLne: nothing at all :) | 08:47 |
| seaLne | now i'm even more confused :P | 08:47 |
| seaLne | bah patches don't apply | 08:49 |
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| seaLne | robotgeek: i'm getting similar problems now with kdelirc and konsolekalendar | 09:03 |
| seaLne | robotgeek: so i think its unlikely its the actual packages... | 09:04 |
| robotgeek | seaLne: apt-get clean, apt-get update and apt-get install :) | 09:04 |
| seaLne | still | 09:05 |
| robotgeek | seaLne: no idea then :) | 09:06 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: you suggest people to use adept now? %) | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: well...sometimes... | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | i dont for big stuff like dist-upgrades | 09:12 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: adept does a good job | 09:13 |
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| Hobbsee | mornfall: actually, the reason i tend to get people to use apt-get, is that if stuff is having trouble for some reason, then it's easier to get them to paste the stuff in the console, rather than a screenshot/description of the adept window | 09:14 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: that should be fixable -- if you can remind me, it'd be nice thing to have a log accessible in gui | 09:16 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: so people will have stuff to paste ;) | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | ooh yes please :D | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | when do you want to be reminded of that? | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | IIRC, the gnome updater does that | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | but in kde, it just shows that i'ts gonna break, but doesnt show much else | 09:16 |
| mornfall | when i get back from lectures maybe (afternoon), or well, when you are around and i am around ;) | 09:16 |
| mornfall | i need to record that somewhere | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | okay | 09:17 |
| mornfall | cus i forget | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | will do | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | want me to email it to you? | 09:17 |
| mornfall | my brain works like a badly underpowered RAM | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:17 |
| mornfall | losing data all the time | 09:17 |
| mornfall | me@mornfall.net would be fine too | 09:17 |
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| mornfall | thanks :) | 09:18 |
| Hobbsee | sent :) | 09:20 |
| Lure | anybody seeing this bug 37286 | 09:25 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: does adept also handle special configuration variables? like -o=? Set an arbitary configuration option, eg -o dir::cache=/tmp | 09:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 37286 in kde-systemsettings "Network settings asks for platform" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/37286 | 09:25 |
| robotgeek | Lure: used to ask me, i selected something appropriate and it went away | 09:25 |
| === robotgeek waits for mornfall to beat him up for bugging him :) | ||
| Hobbsee | Lure: yes. it's just come up again. must have been in hte last few days that htis has happened | 09:26 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: maybe since they changed the version number? | 09:26 |
| Lure | robotgeek: true - you need to tick "Do not ask me again" both for regula ruser as for admin mode and it goes away | 09:27 |
| robotgeek | Lure: so the issue is that i don't remember what i selected :) | 09:27 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: about network-manager-kde - if that controls the network, and doesnt start till we login to kde, what happens if we have no X, or something, for wireless connections | 09:28 |
| Hobbsee | is there any way that we can make it start at boot, somehow using nm or somethign? i dont know, but it does seem a bit crazy | 09:28 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: ne network... :-( | 09:28 |
| Lure | good is that wpasupplicant is now much better integrated into Debian config files, so you can switch to "static WPA" conig | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: :( | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | oh really? | 09:29 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: not at all | 09:29 |
| mornfall | robotgeek: (not supported that is) | 09:30 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: read this /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes | 09:30 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: hmm, okay. i thought i was feeling lucky today :) | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok, interesting | 09:32 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: and do we know if that'll interfere with KNM? | 09:33 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: yes, it is either static (in /e/n/i) or dynamic (knm) - this only allows fallback in case no X | 09:36 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok | 09:36 |
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| Hobbsee_ | Lure: ugh! | 09:48 |
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| Hobbsee | it still *does* have an effect - the network doesnt connect! | 09:48 |
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| Lure | Hobbsee: with knm? | 10:10 |
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| Hobbsee | Lure: yes | 10:15 |
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| mornfall | hello :) | 12:59 |
| mornfall | <-- bored | 12:59 |
| mornfall | algorithm design lecture | 12:59 |
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| Hobbsee | mornfall: ugh | 01:01 |
| Hobbsee | do my maths assignment instead??? | 01:01 |
| mornfall | bah | 01:01 |
| mornfall | i don't do calculus :] | 01:01 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 01:01 |
| seaLne | mornfall: did adept_notifier change recently to only show in kicker when there were updates? | 01:15 |
| mornfall | seaLne: recently? depends on definition of recently | 01:16 |
| seaLne | this week? i no longer have a shiny green icon when there are no updates | 01:17 |
| mornfall | seaLne: 1.91 | 01:17 |
| seaLne | just checking if that was the intended behaviour | 01:17 |
| mornfall | yes | 01:17 |
| seaLne | k, thanks | 01:17 |
| mornfall | no green led icon no more | 01:17 |
| Riddell | seaLne: that was orders from the sabfl | 01:18 |
| Riddell | sabdfl | 01:18 |
| mornfall | people think systray is too crowded | 01:18 |
| seaLne | but it was such a nice shiny icon :) | 01:18 |
| mornfall | sabdfl? i thought it was the ubuntu cabal (since there is no cabal) | 01:18 |
| Riddell | sabdfl is the cabal | 01:18 |
| Riddell | Self-Appointed Benevolent Dictator for Life | 01:19 |
| === Hobbsee agrees with sabdfl, in this | ||
| === Hobbsee already has 4 icons - dont need any more! | ||
| === Hobbsee beds - night all | ||
| mornfall | night Hobbsee | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | not much i can do with launchpad down, and the searches borked, anywya | 01:23 |
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| OdyX | Tm_T: ping | 02:03 |
| OdyX | Tm_T: got another issue with your version of Kopete | 02:03 |
| Tm_T | shoot | 02:05 |
| OdyX | bubbles | 02:05 |
| OdyX | appear in the center of my screen | 02:05 |
| OdyX | That's some bizarre | 02:05 |
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| Tm_T | hmm, check your notification settings | 02:05 |
| OdyX | hum | 02:06 |
| OdyX | just got one now... | 02:06 |
| OdyX | these are the ones with [Read] and [Ignore] | 02:07 |
| Tm_T | ok, "bubbles" works ok here | 02:07 |
| OdyX | I got a huge screen (WUXGA - 1920x1200) if that could be what | 02:08 |
| Tm_T | I doubt | 02:09 |
| Tm_T | do you have systray icon enabled? | 02:09 |
| OdyX | Yep | 02:10 |
| === OdyX is very happy to see "avatars" recognised by Kopete for Jabber, but will later complain on automaticly getting them | ||
| Tm_T | =) | 02:13 |
| === ubijtsa2 grumbles *loudly* about Adaptec (i2o/dpt 2005S) SmartRAID V controllers and Dappers (Flight5) inability to handle them | ||
| ubijtsa2 | only ruddy driver that appears to work is dpt_i2o which when loaded creates /dev/sdXY, not /dev/i2o/hdXY | 02:18 |
| ubijtsa2 | so install works, boot fails and subsequent kernel updates (after some hacking to get it to boot) fail as update-grub can't find the root fs | 02:19 |
| ubijtsa2 | which appear to be related to the fstab containing the strange device names | 02:28 |
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| Lure | Riddell: knm is still not in universe - where can I see the status (it is not in build queue either) - probably because it is new? | 03:13 |
| Riddell | Lure: confusingly the status doesn't seem to be publicly available for such things, but it'll be in NEW | 03:18 |
| Lure | Riddell: I thought so... | 03:19 |
| jjesse_ | mornfall: i love the changes to adept updater, everytime i connect my laptop in the monring to the network bam red triangle in the corner :) | 03:30 |
| jjesse_ | otherwise its gone i love it | 03:30 |
| seaLne | anyone tried to use KURLRequester to select multiple files? it only seems to be returning the directory they are in not the files, which dosen't seem right is it? | 03:36 |
| Lure | Riddell: is Component chooser missing from KDE components only in KDE 3.5.2 or I did not notice this before? | 03:41 |
| Lure | Riddell: no way to change default mail/browser app... | 03:41 |
| Lure | beside kcontrol | 03:41 |
| Riddell | User Account -> Default Applications | 03:46 |
| Lure | Riddell: thank - never dived into this... | 03:50 |
| Lure | ;-) | 03:50 |
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| === jeroenvrp doesn't like beagle | ||
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: why not? | 04:08 |
| jeroenvrp | it locked up my whole desktop after I was away | 04:08 |
| jeroenvrp | and when I used beagle-shutdown it first said there was no beagle daemon running and than my whole kde-session went away | 04:09 |
| jeroenvrp | anyhow, I? still alive :-) | 04:11 |
| jjesse_ | jjesse | 04:20 |
| jjesse_ | hmmm it keeps saying my nickname is in use, how do i kick myself out? | 04:20 |
| jeroenvrp | jjesse_: you should use the GHOST command | 04:21 |
| jjesse_ | GHOST | 04:21 |
| jeroenvrp | try /msg nickserv help | 04:21 |
| jjesse | thank you | 04:21 |
| Riddell | jjesse: how are the docs doing? should I do another snapshot upload? | 04:32 |
| jjesse | Riddell: let me check and get back to you | 04:33 |
| jjesse | mornfall: everytime i open adept i get this error: could not find mime type application/octet-stream | 04:33 |
| Riddell | jjesse: close adept, run kbuildsycoca and run it again, does that fix it? | 04:34 |
| mornfall | lalala | 04:35 |
| mornfall | i don't hear you jjesse ;-) | 04:35 |
| jjesse | Riddell: no it doesn't fix it should i run kbuildsycoca with a sudo? | 04:35 |
| mornfall | i know it's there and i am also fairly sure it's not my fault | 04:35 |
| mornfall | jjesse: definitely not sudo, maybe kdesu but well, dunnow | 04:36 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yes, try that | 04:36 |
| Riddell | yes kdesu | 04:36 |
| jjesse | get errors when i run it kdesu, http://pastebin.com/630813 | 04:37 |
| jjesse | mornfall: did you see that i like the changes to how the adept-update-notifier works? | 04:38 |
| mornfall | jjesse: yes, and that's fine :) | 04:38 |
| Riddell | jjesse: and does it fix it? | 04:39 |
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| jjesse | Riddell: nope, i get an error, see the pastebin location | 04:42 |
| Riddell | jjesse: try editing adept.desktop so that Exec=kdesu adept | 04:43 |
| jjesse | Riddell: instead of adept %i %m -caption "%c" | 04:46 |
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| Riddell | yes | 04:47 |
| jjesse | that solved it | 04:48 |
| Riddell | well, I'm confused | 04:48 |
| jjesse | edited the one located in /usr/share/applications/kde/ | 04:49 |
| === mornfall grrs | ||
| mornfall | evil evil bug | 04:49 |
| mornfall | i will eventually have to go and debug it | 04:49 |
| mornfall | however, the only way i was able to get the dialog was rm-ing ksycoca and the mimetype | 04:49 |
| mornfall | so that's probably not it :) | 04:49 |
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| jeroenvrp | does anyone know where to find the default kubuntu ad-block-list for konqueror | 05:56 |
| jeroenvrp | ? | 05:56 |
| jeroenvrp | or am I asking a stupid question now :-) ? | 05:56 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-default-settings | 05:57 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: ok I will take a look, thanks | 05:57 |
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| mornfall | uhm | 06:09 |
| mornfall | something needs to be done | 06:09 |
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| mornfall | i suspect that the amount of people asking me about application/octet-stream is growing non-linearly | 06:09 |
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| jjesse | mornfall: i started getting this update after i installed kde 3.5.2 | 06:15 |
| jjesse | if i recall correctly | 06:16 |
| mornfall | hmm? i'm not sure i understand | 06:16 |
| jjesse | sorry wasn't clear, after i installed kde 3.5.2 i started getting the application/octect error with adept | 06:19 |
| mornfall | jjesse: shouldn't be related, lots of people get it with .1 too | 06:20 |
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| apachelogger | UVF exception for kblogger granted: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kblogger/+bug/36787 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2202 | 06:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 36787 in kblogger kicker-kblogger "UVF Exception 0.4.1 -> 0.5" [Normal,Confirmed] | 06:26 |
| apachelogger | would be cool if someone could check the package and upload :) | 06:26 |
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| shentey | anyone here who triggers the build of the latest kde (and koffice) packages? | 06:35 |
| Riddell | shentey: mm hmm | 06:36 |
| shentey | it would be nice if there was a symlink to the latest stable kde version (kde-stable) | 06:37 |
| shentey | does that mean no? | 06:37 |
| Riddell | shentey: done | 06:38 |
| shentey | thanks, wow! | 06:39 |
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| Riddell | thanks for pointing that out | 06:40 |
| shentey | i felt i must tell you | 06:41 |
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| shentey | it looks like the *-latest symlinks point to the latest versions irrespective if it's a development version | 06:42 |
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| shentey | i wonder if there was possible to add extra symliks *-stable which point to the latest stable releases? | 06:43 |
| Riddell | shentey: trouble is that not all packages are made for every distro version, just which makes sense at the time | 06:45 |
| Riddell | shentey: where should I put in a symlink? | 06:45 |
| shentey | well, if there *was* a development version of KDE 3.6 that kde-latest link probably pointed at that development version, right? | 06:47 |
| Riddell | yes | 06:48 |
| shentey | the point is if an user wants to live with the latest stable version (and have that updated automatically) this is not possible right now | 06:48 |
| Riddell | the kde35 link goes to stable kde 3.5 | 06:48 |
| shentey | i c | 06:48 |
| shentey | btw, is it possible at all to have the latest development and stable versions installed in parallel by using the repository? | 06:54 |
| Riddell | no | 06:54 |
| shentey | i think developers would get more feedback this way (as they always whish for) | 06:55 |
| Riddell | well it's not possible without altering every package | 06:56 |
| shentey | hmm... i think this is a feature request? | 06:57 |
| Riddell | there's no clean way of doing it | 06:59 |
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| shentey | as i think about it i also see some problems... it's a pity. | 07:03 |
| shentey | i was just wondering how to get more people testing new software. i figured this was a major probelm | 07:04 |
| Riddell | for individual apps you can make klik bundles | 07:04 |
| shentey | yes, you're right... that would probably solve that issue | 07:05 |
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| Tm_T | eeeh | 07:09 |
| Tm_T | since when crystalsvg's action arrows are black? | 07:09 |
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| pef | hello | 07:47 |
| jjesse | afternoon pef | 07:50 |
| pef | hello jjesse | 07:53 |
| jjesse | how are things going? | 07:53 |
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| pef | all is fine, I have now enough free time to come back helping Ubuntu :) | 07:54 |
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| Tonio_ | yop | 07:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: got your mail, thanks for knm :) | 07:55 |
| jjesse | is knetworkmanager in now? | 07:56 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: looking ;) | 07:57 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: still in the new queue | 07:57 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: shouldn't be long | 07:57 |
| jjesse | stupid question is it just for wireless network or all networks? where can i find info/ | 07:58 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: it is for all network | 07:58 |
| Tonio_ | it is also a vpn client | 07:58 |
| Tonio_ | I'm using it on my desktop for the vpn part for example | 07:58 |
| jjesse | will it work w/ cisco vpn concentrators? | 07:58 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: depends | 07:59 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: is your vpn is ipsec compatible, the vpnc component should work | 07:59 |
| jjesse | yeah it is ipsec compatible, does it allow for nt authentication after connection? | 07:59 |
| Tonio_ | if it is ssl vpn (assuming openvpn) then it is dpecific, because not "standard" ipsec | 07:59 |
| Tonio_ | but that's what I use and that works | 08:00 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: dunno for the authentification | 08:00 |
| Tonio_ | I know sisco is a bit specific | 08:00 |
| Tonio_ | s/sisco/cisco | 08:00 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: better is to try ;) | 08:01 |
| Tonio_ | I personnaly use openvpn only, because I don't like ipsec | 08:01 |
| Tonio_ | too complicated, not compatible with most routers etc..... | 08:01 |
| Tonio_ | ssl is way easier to manage | 08:01 |
| Tonio_ | and openvpn is universal | 08:02 |
| Tonio_ | you can use client and server on osx, bsd, linux, windows | 08:02 |
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| jjesse | Tonio_: we have a cisco vpn concentrator here so that's what i'm stuck with | 08:10 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: as I'm saying, there are 2 vpon components for network-manager : vpnc and openvpn | 08:11 |
| Tonio_ | vpnc is supposed to feet with ipsec vpn servers | 08:11 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: is vpnc a working solution for you actually ? | 08:11 |
| Tonio_ | cause network-manager-vpnc will do nothing more vpnc can do | 08:11 |
| Tonio_ | it was working then the component will work, it was not, then the component will not | 08:12 |
| jjesse | Riddell: feel free to build kubuntu docs | 08:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm patching qtparted, the .desktop is crappy and application doesn't work | 08:15 |
| Tonio_ | su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/qtparted | 08:15 |
| Tonio_ | that cannot work | 08:16 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: why not? | 08:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: because su-to-root doesn't work (at least on my computer) | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: -l: su-to-root: command not found | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | how could it ? | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that is the launching command in desktop file, and qtparted simply doesn't launch on any of my computers | 08:18 |
| Riddell | hmm, there used to be a command su-to-root, I wonder where it went to | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dunno :) but I suggest patching to use X-KDE-SubstituteUID=true | 08:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: are you okay ? | 08:20 |
| pef | Tonio_: you can consider using X-KDE-SubstitudeUID=true in desktop file | 08:21 |
| pef | erf :) | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | pef: hehe :) | 08:21 |
| Riddell | it would also need to depend on kdelibs-bin in that case | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will do | 08:21 |
| Riddell | groovy | 08:21 |
| pef | Riddell: hello Jonathan* | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm waiting for knetworkmanager to be build and will ask for 3 main inclusions, wlassistant, kmplayer and knetworkmanager | 08:21 |
| Riddell | hi pef baby | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if you're okay of course ;) | 08:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I've done wlassistant and kmplayer main inclusion | 08:22 |
| pef | su-to-root exists and comes from menu package | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah okay ;) I'm sorry but I was so tired.. I didn't find the strengh to do it as I promissed | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | sleeping 3 hours per night isn't something I am able to do from monday to friday ;) | 08:23 |
| Riddell | pef: ah, that's where it is | 08:24 |
| Riddell | I think just using kdesu is nicer than su-to-root in this case | 08:24 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: want the qtparted package ? I can't upload cause it is in main ;) | 08:35 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes please | 08:36 |
| Riddell | debdiff | 08:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay :) | 08:36 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: you should have gotten the debdiff by email | 08:52 |
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| Pygi | Riddell: what happened with n-m-kde? | 08:54 |
| seth|away | Pygi, it is still in NEW | 08:54 |
| Pygi | seth: ah, k, thanks ^_^ | 08:54 |
| seth | it'll be there in a few days at most :) | 08:55 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: It waits wor building :) | 08:55 |
| Pygi | Tonio_: I just looked ... it isn't building yet... | 08:55 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: shouldn't be long :) | 08:56 |
| Pygi | ah, ok ^_^ | 08:57 |
| Pygi | Tonio_: willing to make some work done? ^_^ | 08:57 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: tell me more ;) | 08:57 |
| Pygi | Tonio_: we need to make patches for n-m | 08:57 |
| Pygi | 0.6.1 to 0.6.2 | 08:57 |
| Tonio_ | hurg........... | 08:58 |
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| Pygi | :) | 08:58 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: what is the gretest emergency ? | 08:58 |
| Pygi | don't then :-P | 08:58 |
| Pygi | Tonio_: well, what do you mean? | 08:58 |
| Tonio_ | upgrading n-m or having the vpn packages in ? | 08:58 |
| Tonio_ | that's very important too | 08:58 |
| Pygi | upgrading n-m = higher priority | 08:59 |
| Tonio_ | it is stupid to remove the no-vpn patch and don't include the vpn additionnal components :) | 08:59 |
| Pygi | yes, but upgrading nm is more important now | 08:59 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: I can't promiss today (I have other things to work on) | 08:59 |
| Tonio_ | and I'm not here this WE | 09:00 |
| Tonio_ | I can start working on this for monday | 09:00 |
| Pygi | ah :-P | 09:00 |
| Pygi | by then we'll probably get it already, but we'll see ^_^ | 09:00 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: what is the work to be done ? porting patches ? | 09:01 |
| Pygi | make diffs also | 09:02 |
| Tonio_ | diffs between what ? | 09:03 |
| Pygi | 0.6.1 and 0.6.2 | 09:03 |
| Tonio_ | for UVFe ? | 09:04 |
| Pygi | yup :) | 09:04 |
| Tonio_ | that's not hard to do :) | 09:04 |
| Pygi | still :-P | 09:04 |
| Tonio_ | but as I said, I have other things to work on toonight ;) | 09:04 |
| Pygi | just work :P | 09:04 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: I promiss to help you on that on monday if that's not finished :) | 09:05 |
| Pygi | thanks ^_^ | 09:05 |
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| vdoever | hi Tonio_ | 09:26 |
| vdoever | i'm almost too shy to ask | 09:27 |
| vdoever | do you think cubetest will make it into kubuntu? | 09:27 |
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| Tonio_ | vdoever: honnestly, that's nice and fun, but that's not a priority :) | 09:30 |
| vdoever | so it's on the medium term list? | 09:31 |
| Riddell | vdoever: it's not on any list, it just needs someone to do it | 09:31 |
| Tonio_ | vdoever: consider that we are in feature freeze, so all applications we are currently adding are exceptions | 09:31 |
| Tonio_ | because they are needed for the distro and waited by most users | 09:32 |
| vdoever | so i should come bugging after the next release? :-) | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | like wireless management applications, or beagle frontends | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | vdoever: depends how fast we go with required stuff ;) | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | but I can't promiss anything | 09:33 |
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| Tonio_ | vdoever: of course, no pb for dapper+1 | 09:33 |
| vdoever | ah good | 09:33 |
| Riddell | vdoever: you can package it yourself of course | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | vdoever: if you can provide a package, that will help, yes :) | 09:33 |
| vdoever | well, i don't want to install every distro and write packages for it | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | vdoever: what are you currently using ? | 09:34 |
| vdoever | kubuntu is nice, but i've not grown away from suse yet | 09:34 |
| Riddell | vdoever: yeah, but we're special aren't we? :) | 09:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ^^ | 09:34 |
| vdoever | of course, you're astronaut affiliated! | 09:34 |
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| vdoever | you should put a sticker on the cds: "Astronaut Affiliated!" | 09:35 |
| vdoever | it will sell like hell! | 09:35 |
| Tonio_ | vdoever: not designed to be sold ;) | 09:35 |
| vdoever | but yeah, kubuntu's nice but i'm recovering from my last 2 experiences where i hated your installer so much because it did not ask for a root pwd | 09:35 |
| vdoever | and i couldn't log in as root and i was completely helpless | 09:36 |
| Tonio_ | vdoever: logging as root ????? | 09:36 |
| vdoever | later i found out the truth about what happened to nice mr. root | 09:36 |
| vdoever | but then it was too late | 09:36 |
| Tonio_ | vdoever: why reproducing windows errors concerning security ? | 09:36 |
| Riddell | pef! | 09:36 |
| vdoever | i'm scared | 09:36 |
| vdoever | Tonio_: i'm fine with using sudo | 09:36 |
| Tonio_ | vdoever: I prefer to hear this :) | 09:37 |
| vdoever | but i'd have liked it if the installer had told me about it | 09:37 |
| Riddell | pef: there's a really elite application called cubetest that you should package | 09:37 |
| Tonio_ | vdoever: there are documentations for this :) | 09:37 |
| vdoever | documentation? on a live cd? come on | 09:37 |
| vdoever | no you need an icon on the installed desktop or something | 09:37 |
| vdoever | my first reflex on any install is to fix all hardware | 09:38 |
| vdoever | i need to be root for that | 09:38 |
| vdoever | and i really had never thought about sudo | 09:38 |
| vdoever | i thought the installer was buggy | 09:38 |
| pef | Riddell: will look for that :) | 09:38 |
| vdoever | maybe you could add a screen to the install | 09:38 |
| vdoever | with big friendly letters | 09:38 |
| vdoever | for demented old farts like me | 09:38 |
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| vdoever | "you cannot login as root, use sudo" | 09:39 |
| vdoever | (or "sudo bash" if you're careless) | 09:39 |
| Riddell | vdoever: there you go, poke pef politely | 09:39 |
| jeroenvrp | sorry to interupt: but is cubetest so very special that a exceptions is necessary? | 09:40 |
| jeroenvrp | when is edubuntu comming out? | 09:40 |
| jeroenvrp | beter to focus on edubunti, I would say | 09:40 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: there's no exception needed for new packages, just that the priority should be on fixing things | 09:41 |
| jeroenvrp | oooh | 09:41 |
| jeroenvrp | than Ik have a few packages | 09:41 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: you'd need to ask the edubuntu developers, but it'll come out at the same time as kubuntu and ubuntu | 09:41 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: throw them up on revu then | 09:41 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: like some DVD apps | 09:41 |
| jeroenvrp | like Devede | 09:41 |
| jeroenvrp | and some Komander-apps | 09:41 |
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| jeroenvrp | and how many voip-clients do we have | 09:42 |
| jeroenvrp | like wengophone | 09:42 |
| jeroenvrp | or gizmo? | 09:42 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: we have been poking the wengo team for a clean tarball for month....... | 09:43 |
| Tonio_ | they are not releasing anything | 09:43 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: and as the svn is a complete mess, including windows components etc..... | 09:43 |
| jeroenvrp | oh I thought that was opensourced | 09:43 |
| jeroenvrp | mmm, yes | 09:43 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: it has not been possible to patch it..... | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: it is, but the sources are not really usable | 09:44 |
| jeroenvrp | yes I can see | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: that will change with wengophone-ng, the future version still in developpment | 09:44 |
| vdoever | jeroenvrp: i'm not asking for exceptions, cubetest can wait | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: there the soruces are very nice, but it is still very unstable....... | 09:44 |
| jeroenvrp | vdoever: oh sorry, ik probeer gewoon een discussie los te weken :-) | 09:44 |
| vdoever | jeroenvrp: leuk geprobeerd :-) | 09:45 |
| jeroenvrp | Tonio_: are there not good alternatives? | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: not to what I know....... | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | wengophone is really nice... | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | it's up to them to release a tarball so that we can get it in kubuntu (at least in universe) | 09:46 |
| jeroenvrp | yes it is, allthough it does not work out of the box, I noticed | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | I asked on their board, and raphink did too | 09:46 |
| jeroenvrp | ok ok ok :-) | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: it has dependancies issues I think...... | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: interested in a voip tool in kubuntu ? ubuntu has ekiga so........ | 09:48 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: of course | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: let's go insult wengo team on their board ^^ | 09:48 |
| Riddell | hmm, that might not be productive :) | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: insulting politely ;) hehe | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | no, but serriously I will ask once again | 09:49 |
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| Tonio_ | they miss great oportunity if they don't release propper tarball...... | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | imagin it gets installed by default on a few distros, they would double their clients in a week...... | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | french are so stupid in marketing....... | 09:50 |
| jeroenvrp | haha | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: that's true !!!!!!! we had so many technologies that we haven't been able to sold...... | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | and that were on the top..... | 09:51 |
| jeroenvrp | :-) | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: ever heard about "minitel" ? | 09:51 |
| jeroenvrp | yes | 09:51 |
| raphink | ok after some tests | 09:51 |
| jeroenvrp | it was very popular | 09:51 |
| raphink | kpowersave seems to work pretty well on my powerpc | 09:51 |
| raphink | _BUT_ | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | isn't that a shame that nobody bought the technology ? | 09:52 |
| raphink | the huge problem is that it locks the session | 09:52 |
| raphink | and I can't unlock it | 09:52 |
| raphink | anybody has unlock problems ? | 09:52 |
| jeroenvrp | we here in NL had videotext and that was a cheap version | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: if it was an american one, it would have been installed all over the world...... | 09:52 |
| jeroenvrp | Tonio_: proberly yes | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: and the only problem with wengophone is that it is developped by a french company :) | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | jeroenvrp: so it can be better than skype, it'll always stay a second zone product..... | 09:53 |
| Tm_T | ach | 09:53 |
| Tm_T | this seems stupid | 09:54 |
| Tm_T | somehow I can't copy file to current folder in different name (konqueror) | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: french, even in 2006, still don't know how to promote a good technology....... | 09:54 |
| Tm_T | uhhoh, konqueror doesn't offer new name to copied file | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: yes, I just said same to raphink | 09:55 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: it seems kde removed that functionality | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: how stupid ! | 09:55 |
| Tm_T | ...wtf | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: certainly a new french developper in the kde crew........ | 09:55 |
| Tm_T | =) | 09:55 |
| Tm_T | I mean, wtf | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | wtf ? | 09:56 |
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| Tm_T | yeah, exactly | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | which means ? | 09:57 |
| raphink | anybody has problems unlocking sessions ? | 09:57 |
| raphink | I can't unlock the sessions | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: let me check | 09:57 |
| Tm_T | wtf = what the f*ck and I rarely am this shocked... | 09:57 |
| raphink | beware Tonio_ | 09:57 |
| raphink | I just can't get back from locking a session | 09:57 |
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| Tonio_ | raphink: no pb here :) | 09:57 |
| raphink | hmmm | 09:57 |
| raphink | here it says it cannot unlock | 09:58 |
| raphink | when I type the password | 09:58 |
| raphink | so I can't get back from it | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: we need to create bug for kde to add that functionnality again ! | 09:58 |
| raphink | which is pretty annoying ... for the least | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: that was so usefull............. | 09:58 |
| Tm_T | it's crucial imho | 09:59 |
| Tm_T | if you can't multiply files in same folder... | 09:59 |
| Tm_T | oh well, I don't use konqueror as my filemanager anyway anymore ;( | 10:00 |
| jjesse | raphink: i lock my workstatation all the time and i have no problems, today's updates | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: any feedback from wengo concerning an eventual tarball ? | 10:01 |
| raphink | jjesse: i386? | 10:01 |
| jjesse | yes sure | 10:02 |
| raphink | anyone on powerpc ? | 10:02 |
| Riddell | raphink: maybe | 10:02 |
| raphink | Riddell: hehe ;) | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | toma: ping ? | 10:02 |
| raphink | Riddell: are you able to lock your session and get back to it? | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: please do bug report | 10:03 |
| Riddell | raphink: it's currently running an ubuntu hoary CD, I'll let you know when I have kubuntu installed | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: I will ;) I was pinging toma for something else ;) | 10:03 |
| raphink | ty Riddell | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: cool, I go to sleep then ;) | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | hum.... was the "rename when copy in the same folder" still here ith 3.5.1 ? | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | I think yes | 10:05 |
| Tm_T | it was | 10:06 |
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| Tonio_ | Tm_T: sometimes kde crew makes strange choices........ I must say I can't understand why removing this...... | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | me neither | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: "to hard for users" , la gnome ? | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | I feel shamed | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: no idea, I'll try some find | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | linus thorvalds will make an heart attack ;) | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | exactly | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | okay, posting a but report ;) | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | s/but/bug | 10:08 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: qtparted uploaded | 10:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks ;) | 10:12 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: dfaure is the man behind this | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123796 | 10:13 |
| Tm_T | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-commits&m=114320704805271&w=2 | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: couldn't that work ? seems ressembling to our issue | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: any opinion ? | 10:13 |
| Tm_T | aahh! | 10:14 |
| Tm_T | known bug | 10:14 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: yes I searched a bit before posting :) | 10:14 |
| Tonio_ | bugfix released ;) | 10:15 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: looks ok | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is kde supposed to be changed before release ? or should we had the patch ? | 10:15 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sure, please test the patch and send me a debdiff | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: doing right now ;) | 10:16 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: uuh, you're precious | 10:16 |
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| Tonio_ | Tm_T: but I'm not a very good motu since I quite never on universe for month..... only main in fact ;) | 10:17 |
| Tm_T | heh | 10:18 |
| Pygi | Tonio_: hehe ;) | 10:18 |
| hunger | Tonio_: So you are Quatermain? | 10:18 |
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| Tonio_ | Tm_T: technically, that makes me a bad motu de facto :) | 10:18 |
| Tm_T | haha | 10:19 |
| toma | Tonio_: pong (had to be idle for 20 minutes to test RSIBreak, other story) | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | toma: no pb ;) | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | toma: I remember you told me you though about investigating a bit on the kicker systemapplet problem or patch ;) | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | toma: any news concerning this ? | 10:28 |
| toma | Tonio_: ah, no, it is not possible for me to fix that, unless I spend a massive amount of time to it. The only thing i suggested was to remove it from the konq sidebar... | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | toma: that's maybe that will be going to happen :) | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: would you be okay with that solution ? | 10:31 |
| OdyX | raphink: I had a prolbem like that | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | toma: thanks ;) | 10:31 |
| OdyX | in Breezy | 10:31 |
| raphink | OdyX: with a ppc ? | 10:31 |
| toma | well a broken item in the sidebar is useless anyway | 10:31 |
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| OdyX | raphink: you mean "lockin and unable to lockout ?" | 10:31 |
| toma | raphink: did the patch work out btw? | 10:32 |
| raphink | yes OdyX | 10:32 |
| OdyX | raphink: had that under breezy | 10:32 |
| raphink | toma: no | 10:32 |
| toma | ;-( | 10:32 |
| raphink | toma: I gave up eventually | 10:32 |
| OdyX | raphink: but never under Dapper (well.. never locked indeed) | 10:32 |
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| toma | +ting | 10:32 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: ping me when you have tested the patch | 10:33 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: which? | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the problem with the system component in konqsidebar | 10:34 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yeah, fine | 10:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the kicker systemapplet patch creates an issue o that component........ toma was suggesting to remove it, because not very usefull | 10:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay I will patch k-d-s | 10:35 |
| toma | new test.. bbi20 | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I was looking at rosetta, is it normal all the patches we've applied on universe packages are still not there ? | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | kde-pwmanager for example | 10:41 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: how do you mean? | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I don't find any of the application I packaged with the kdepotpatch | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kdelibs building, will take some time....... | 10:43 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: the rosetta people are still coding the kde support | 10:43 |
| Riddell | "next week" | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: great ;) just wanted to be sure that wasn't lost job :) | 10:44 |
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| verwilst | Riddell: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=114368252628101&w=2 | 10:56 |
| verwilst | Riddell: is this in kubuntu? | 10:56 |
| Riddell | verwilst: no | 10:57 |
| verwilst | ok :) | 10:57 |
| verwilst | didn't know since my rmb's are pretty fast afaik | 10:57 |
| verwilst | bed! | 11:00 |
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| Tonio_ | http://forum.wengo.com/viewtopic.php?p=4652 | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | feel free to add comments ;) | 11:08 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: very civilised :) | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I authorize you to call french "froggies" if they don't answer ;) | 11:10 |
| Tm_T | =) | 11:13 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: hey, what's the situation with the patch? ;) | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: building.......... kdelibs isn't short time to package :) | 11:14 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: maybe he's decided to include that menu caching patch verwilst pointed out :) | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: and my laptop is a 1.5 ghz celeron...... | 11:14 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: my dad works for a French company, I grew up calling French people frogs :) | 11:15 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: yay! | 11:15 |
| Riddell | mais non, je ne suis pad un roastbeef, je suis un haggis | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hahaha | 11:15 |
| Riddell | s/pad/pas/ | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | I must say I sometime call english people "rosbeaf" | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | but french generally do not | 11:16 |
| Pygi | bah, I was never able to speak french properly | 11:16 |
| Pygi | I do understand it, and can write fairly well, but speaking kills me :P | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: french is a very hard language | 11:17 |
| Pygi | Tonio_: nah, just speaking is hard... | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: grammar is horrible | 11:17 |
| Pygi | bah, then you can say like that for italian for example as well | 11:18 |
| Pygi | while italian was easier for me to learn then french | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | italian is easier, by far | 11:18 |
| Pygi | ah | 11:18 |
| Pygi | Kako si? Sto se radi? Talijanski je daleko laksi... | 11:18 |
| Pygi | what about this? ;( | 11:18 |
| Pygi | ;)* | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | what the f*ck is that ? | 11:19 |
| Pygi | do not insult my language ;) | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | sorry !! what is this ? swedish or something ? | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | danish ? | 11:20 |
| Pygi | croatian ;) | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | k ;) | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | coffee time :) | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | that's the only thing I'm proud in france ;) best coffee in the world | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: croatia is a very beautifull country ;) you can proud of it :) | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | +be | 11:22 |
| Pygi | Tonio_: bah, ever been here? | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | Pygi: about 20 years ago, but according to what I remember, that was really beautifull | 11:23 |
| Pygi | oh, 20 years ago :-P | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | hehe yes, I was only 9 | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | so maybe that was completly awfull, but beautifull in my child eyes :) | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | ^_^ | 11:23 |
| Pygi | ;) | 11:24 |
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