[12:05] Tonio_: uploaded knetworkmanager, thanks for doing that. thanks Lure too, you both rock [12:06] a round of applause :) === Pygi applauses === OdyX applauses even. === My8os [n=My8os@ppp83-adsl-69.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [12:10] Tm_T: thinking of an issue in your version of Kopete [12:11] hello My8os [12:11] Tm_T: in speaking dialog (MSN contact), webcam can be sent (I have no one) and received (my contact doesn't have any) - This should be detected.... [12:12] Riddell: will Flight6 include kde 3.5.2? [12:12] Lure: yes === mario_ [n=mario@83-131-254-145.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:12] My8os: could you make a wiki page for KubuntuGreece [12:13] great - I hope it will install on my notebook (Flight 5 did not...) [12:14] mornfall: adept translated into french :) [12:14] Riddell: i'll give it a try [12:15] thanks to OdyX :) [12:15] just give me a pattern and i should write [12:15] My8os: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuGreece [12:15] Create new empty page === OdyX feels glory giving energy. [12:16] and put something in greek there along the lines of "#kubuntu-gr is the channel for the greek kubuntu community" [12:16] put it in english too [12:16] raphink: and to marseillai [12:16] yes, too : [12:16] ) [12:16] then I'll put it on kubuntu.org [12:16] ok [12:17] Lure: I need your help ...ping? [12:18] Pygi: pong [12:18] Lure: please update dappernetworkmanager page for info on how to install vpn properties, and more info that is needed [12:18] a lot of new info arisen [12:19] Pygi: better done by Tonio_ - he tested knm with VPN and it works nicely (seen some screenshots) [12:19] Lure: yes, perhaps...but network-manager-gnome needs info as well [12:19] Pygi: issue is that n-m-vpn packages need to be accepted into Ubuntu - I think we need to ping Keybuk tommorow [12:19] probably together with 0.6.2 UVFe [12:20] Lure: they are already accepted I think..:? [12:21] Tonio_: approved! http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2215 [12:21] Pygi: only VPN code in n-m was left, but additional packages (add-ons) need to get in [12:21] kerry will be included in the default dekstop installation or it will need to be instaled from the repo? [12:21] kmon: it'll be in universe like beagle [12:22] Riddell: ok, thanxs [12:22] Riddell: since beagle is cool, we may want to look into how to split it to multiple packages [12:22] I would like to reduce GNOME packages on my Kubuntu ;-) [12:22] That would be great :) [12:22] currently beagle package has everything... [12:22] Lure: yes. it's not immediately obvious which packages are part of the gtk frontend, but it shouldn't be hard to find out if you know anything about mono [12:22] s/packages/files/ [12:23] Riddell: I have some .NET developers as work that may help ;-) [12:23] actually I have thought to maybe research SuSE a bit as they might have already done it properly for RPM [12:25] There's a kind of review of kubuntu dapper in the editor's blog of tux magazine: http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000187 [12:26] Lure: do we only need to include nm-vpn properties? [12:27] The last paragraph is quite nice. === kmon leaves [12:29] good night everyone [12:30] "This brings up two questions: what does this five year number mean, and, well, why?" what in il-informed author [12:31] raphink: does it work too? === NoDgr [n=nod@ppp6-adsl-221.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:38] mornfall: what? [12:38] Riddell: ready ;) === Jozo__ [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:48] My8os: can you add a title to that page, saying "Kubuntu Greece" but in Greek [12:49] raphink: the translation [12:49] mornfall: untill the lang packages are rebuilt, I don't know [12:49] but it should === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] Riddell: done [12:54] seems as though either hal or kde picked up a new bug over the last day or two with mounting usb devices. My mp3 player mounts and opens the window with it's contents, but the "mounting /dev/sdb1" window doesn't go away. [12:54] My8os: http://kubuntu.org/ === Lure crawls to bed - good nite all [12:55] night Lure [12:55] thats nice...thank u :) [12:56] My8os: have you told the greek ubuntu people about #kubuntu-gr? [12:59] we (me and NoDgr) just started the hole effort. [01:00] so we will now spread the word [01:00] !gr [01:00] hmm, no bot [01:03] My8os: you need to work out how to program ubotu [01:03] to reply to !gr [01:03] but I can never work out how to do that [01:03] My8os: make sure the #ubuntu-gr people know about #kubuntu-gr, it's important for communities to stay in contact [01:04] ok === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:04] My8os: thanks for starting the kubuntu greece community :) [01:05] its our pleasure :) === Jozo_ [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-55-122.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:22] Riddell: if in the future we add a greek forum and i update the KubuntuGreece wiki, will it be shown automatically at kubuntu.org or should i contact u? [01:23] My8os: just contact me [01:24] ok...and a last question...u said that i need to program ubotu, how do i do that ? :) [01:28] My8os: see #kubuntu === spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.41.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:55] Riddell: lo? [02:09] hendry: hi [02:13] Riddell: is expresso in Kubuntu live dailys? [02:14] hendry: yes [02:15] kdesu espresso kde-ui [02:15] but only use it on a computer where you don't care about the contents of the hard disk [02:17] Riddell: ok [02:23] when is DF6 released ? [02:34] raphink: tomorrow [02:34] really? :) [02:34] Riddell: are you doing it? [02:34] raphink: please download iso images tonight then you can rsync them tomorrow morning and help test [02:35] Riddell: do you want my april wallpaper in ? [02:35] raphink: Mithrandir is [02:35] if so, I can upload it tonight [02:35] well now I mean [02:35] raphink: hmm, no, leave that for the dist-upgraders :) [02:35] hehe ok :) [02:35] so I'll put it tomorrow evening [02:35] :) === NoDgr [n=nod@ppp6-adsl-221.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === enfact [n=enfact@c-24-63-70-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:52] do we have kexi mdb packages? === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=OdyX@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [03:00] so, is knetworkmanager in universe now? [03:00] or is it still building, or what [03:00] probably still in NEW [03:01] ah === _jdong [n=jdong@d192-24-132-154.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:36] Tonio_: i have a question, not sure if it's for you or lure... [03:37] I think Tonio_ is asleep [03:37] fair enough [03:38] hi Riddell, btw - this seems odd... [03:38] what does? [03:39] having you online, and awake, at this time of day [03:43] team meeting in 20 minutes [03:43] poor old continental europeans have to wait until 04:00 [03:43] which team? [03:43] ubuntu core-dev [03:43] ah, fun [03:45] Has the problem with the Display module been fixed in the Breezy 3.5.2 packages yet? [03:46] we've replaced the display module in dapper [03:47] I'm aware, but I've been told that the Display module is missing entirely in the Breezy packages. [03:47] Parkotron: indeed, i found that out last night - tried to point someone to a non-existant location. [03:47] I'm currently upgrading, so I can't confirm that yet. [03:48] Is there a workaround or fix? === NoD[away] [n=pi8ikas@ppp6-adsl-221.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:02] Riddell: er...what the heck did you do to the rss feed? it just gave me a really odd post... [04:02] hmm? [04:02] kubuntu.org rss feed [04:02] - "" " Kubuntu " " ", " irc: #kubuntu-gr ", servers " irc.freenode.netThe Greek kubuntu community now has its own IRC channel: #kubuntu-gr at irc.freenode.net [04:03] that'll be the greek :) [04:03] ah...so those symbols *would* actually be a language? [04:03] hmm, it's not doing utf8 correctly [04:03] ok, fixed [04:03] Riddell: shall we add the "Display Desktop" shotcuts [04:04] freeflying: to what? [04:04] hehe [04:04] Riddell: *that* looks better! === Hobbsee didnt really thing that fractions were letters in greek... [04:05] Riddell: taskbar [04:05] freeflying: that'd be good :D [04:06] Hobbsee: hehe [04:07] freeflying: well we don't have anything on the desktop by default so it's not needed :) [04:08] Riddell: it be used often by endusers after all , and they will put something on desktop [04:15] freeflying: I'm unconvinced I'm afraid [04:15] Hobbsee: I went first, you missed my report :) === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:15] Riddell: darn! that was the one i wanted! === Hobbsee will go look up the logs :P [04:16] you're usually last, which is great! [04:16] today is a reverse day [04:16] ugh, again? [04:17] yeah I know, and I shouldn't even be at the end for some reason I'm after seb128 [04:17] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/630114 [04:18] hmm, just noticed silly typo I made in the last line there [04:18] thanks :) - logs arent updated yet :( [04:19] heh, yeah [04:19] did kde 3.5.2 end up going into main? [04:19] yep === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:19] oh goody, so i can remove one more non-standard repo === Parkotron [n=parker@fctnnbsc16w-156034209119.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:20] Riddell: i killed 3 of the kdenetwork bugs yesterday, and set a few more to need info :) [04:21] yay :) [04:21] friday is bug day I think [04:22] Hobbsee: Did you find a workaround for the Display bug? === Hobbsee looks down at the calender [04:22] Parkotron: no i didnt, sorry [04:22] oh yeah, i wont be around on my friday, probably no one else's either [04:22] darn uni, then work. and they mark my programming assignment - eek! [04:22] Hobbsee: That's alright, I use KRandRTray anyway. [04:24] Hobbsee: what's the assignment? [04:25] hooray for 3.5.2 in main, it works a ton better [04:25] now if we can just shove kopete 0.12 in there I'll do a dance [04:25] Riddell: http://online.mq.edu.au/pub/COMP115/assignments/ass.html - assignment 1 we submitted about a week ago, assignment 2 is due in a month and a half, or something [04:26] they're doing style marking tomorrow - ack. [04:28] wow, a uni that still teache C++ === My8os[Away] [n=My8os@ppp89-adsl-180.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [04:29] Riddell: yeah. what should they be teaching? [04:31] if they can teach c++ that's all good, but the low level details of c++ would have got in the way of learing actual programming techniques with the cleverness of most of the people at my uni [04:31] ah ok [04:32] Riddell: the problem I've told like this issue http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=114340511411469&w=2 [04:32] Hobbsee: and python or ruby makes things about 3 times faster to code :) [04:33] hehe === Hobbsee figures that anything she learns in the course will be more than she currently knows [04:33] and besides that, i probably wont use it much in optoelectronics anyway... [04:33] freeflying: hmm, could be the window decoration, for which we have a fix [04:34] Riddell: but now , if the page have image , konq become damn slowly [04:34] s/image/ big image [04:36] freeflying: are you getting that problem? [04:37] Riddell: ye [04:37] freeflying: got an example webpage that causes the issue? [04:37] Riddell: just a moment [04:42] Riddell: when did we have that fix ? [04:42] which fix? === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.76] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:43] Riddell: konqueror's slow [04:43] Riddell: I can not reproduce it now [04:44] :) [04:45] hehe [04:45] mornfall must have been playing with it [04:45] seeing as adept was screwed, then as soon as he wants to know about it, and we get an upgrade, it works fine, and no one can reproduce! === My8os[Away] [n=My8os@ppp81-adsl-155.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.76] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:37] weird, apt-get keeps upgrading kaddressbook [05:41] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/630183 [05:41] it someone can confirm, it might be a bug in apt? === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-55-122.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dasnipa` [n=Dasnipa@bravobravo.stev195.eiu.edu] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:57] robotgeek: i don't have any probs with kaddressbook [08:03] seaLne: neither do i, my problem went abway after a "apt-get clean" and "apt-get upgrade" [08:04] strange [08:05] i have absolutely no idea what was wrong :P === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne wonders why the version of scribus in ubuntu is so old [08:43] seaLne: upgrade it :) [08:43] uvf [08:43] but i'm going to build a package [08:44] seaLne: work on which now ? [08:45] sorry i'm not sure what you mean? [08:46] seaLne: scribus [08:46] sorry i'm still not sure what you mean [08:47] seaLne: nothing at all :) [08:47] now i'm even more confused :P [08:49] bah patches don't apply === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:03] robotgeek: i'm getting similar problems now with kdelirc and konsolekalendar [09:04] robotgeek: so i think its unlikely its the actual packages... [09:04] seaLne: apt-get clean, apt-get update and apt-get install :) [09:05] still [09:06] seaLne: no idea then :) [09:10] Hobbsee: you suggest people to use adept now? %) [09:11] mornfall: well...sometimes... [09:11] hehe [09:12] i dont for big stuff like dist-upgrades [09:13] mornfall: adept does a good job === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:14] mornfall: actually, the reason i tend to get people to use apt-get, is that if stuff is having trouble for some reason, then it's easier to get them to paste the stuff in the console, rather than a screenshot/description of the adept window [09:16] Hobbsee: that should be fixable -- if you can remind me, it'd be nice thing to have a log accessible in gui [09:16] Hobbsee: so people will have stuff to paste ;) [09:16] ooh yes please :D [09:16] when do you want to be reminded of that? [09:16] IIRC, the gnome updater does that [09:16] but in kde, it just shows that i'ts gonna break, but doesnt show much else [09:16] when i get back from lectures maybe (afternoon), or well, when you are around and i am around ;) [09:17] i need to record that somewhere [09:17] okay [09:17] cus i forget [09:17] will do [09:17] want me to email it to you? [09:17] my brain works like a badly underpowered RAM [09:17] hehe [09:17] losing data all the time [09:17] me@mornfall.net would be fine too === ZuZubuntu-fr [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-22-130.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:18] thanks :) [09:20] sent :) [09:25] anybody seeing this bug 37286 [09:25] mornfall: does adept also handle special configuration variables? like -o=? Set an arbitary configuration option, eg -o dir::cache=/tmp [09:25] Malone bug 37286 in kde-systemsettings "Network settings asks for platform" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/37286 [09:25] Lure: used to ask me, i selected something appropriate and it went away === robotgeek waits for mornfall to beat him up for bugging him :) [09:26] Lure: yes. it's just come up again. must have been in hte last few days that htis has happened [09:26] Lure: maybe since they changed the version number? [09:27] robotgeek: true - you need to tick "Do not ask me again" both for regula ruser as for admin mode and it goes away [09:27] Lure: so the issue is that i don't remember what i selected :) [09:28] Lure: about network-manager-kde - if that controls the network, and doesnt start till we login to kde, what happens if we have no X, or something, for wireless connections [09:28] is there any way that we can make it start at boot, somehow using nm or somethign? i dont know, but it does seem a bit crazy [09:28] Hobbsee: ne network... :-( [09:29] good is that wpasupplicant is now much better integrated into Debian config files, so you can switch to "static WPA" conig [09:29] Lure: :( [09:29] oh really? [09:29] robotgeek: not at all [09:30] robotgeek: (not supported that is) [09:30] Hobbsee: read this /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes [09:30] mornfall: hmm, okay. i thought i was feeling lucky today :) [09:32] ah ok, interesting [09:33] Lure: and do we know if that'll interfere with KNM? [09:36] Hobbsee: yes, it is either static (in /e/n/i) or dynamic (knm) - this only allows fallback in case no X [09:36] ah ok === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:48] Lure: ugh! === ubijtsa2 [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:48] it still *does* have an effect - the network doesnt connect! === _spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.41.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:10] Hobbsee: with knm? === nael [n=nael@adsl-71-141-10-64.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:15] Lure: yes === |NoD| [n=pi8ikas@ppp104-adsl-9.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.182.63] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Den [n=knoppix@dhcp-40-162.EECS.Berkeley.EDU] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lwelyn [n=lwelyn@p549A664F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp43-adsl-244.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-22-98.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] hello :) [12:59] <-- bored [12:59] algorithm design lecture === alerim [n=alexis@rimbaud.net1.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:01] mornfall: ugh [01:01] do my maths assignment instead??? [01:01] bah [01:01] i don't do calculus :] [01:01] :P [01:15] mornfall: did adept_notifier change recently to only show in kicker when there were updates? [01:16] seaLne: recently? depends on definition of recently [01:17] this week? i no longer have a shiny green icon when there are no updates [01:17] seaLne: 1.91 [01:17] just checking if that was the intended behaviour [01:17] yes [01:17] k, thanks [01:17] no green led icon no more [01:18] seaLne: that was orders from the sabfl [01:18] sabdfl [01:18] people think systray is too crowded [01:18] but it was such a nice shiny icon :) [01:18] sabdfl? i thought it was the ubuntu cabal (since there is no cabal) [01:18] sabdfl is the cabal [01:19] Self-Appointed Benevolent Dictator for Life === Hobbsee agrees with sabdfl, in this === Hobbsee already has 4 icons - dont need any more! === Hobbsee beds - night all [01:23] night Hobbsee [01:23] not much i can do with launchpad down, and the searches borked, anywya === OdyX [n=OdyX@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] Tm_T: ping [02:03] Tm_T: got another issue with your version of Kopete [02:05] shoot [02:05] bubbles [02:05] appear in the center of my screen [02:05] That's some bizarre === alerim [n=alexis@rimbaud.net1.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:05] hmm, check your notification settings [02:06] hum [02:06] just got one now... [02:07] these are the ones with [Read] and [Ignore] [02:07] ok, "bubbles" works ok here [02:08] I got a huge screen (WUXGA - 1920x1200) if that could be what [02:09] I doubt [02:09] do you have systray icon enabled? [02:10] Yep === OdyX is very happy to see "avatars" recognised by Kopete for Jabber, but will later complain on automaticly getting them [02:13] =) === ubijtsa2 grumbles *loudly* about Adaptec (i2o/dpt 2005S) SmartRAID V controllers and Dappers (Flight5) inability to handle them [02:18] only ruddy driver that appears to work is dpt_i2o which when loaded creates /dev/sdXY, not /dev/i2o/hdXY [02:19] so install works, boot fails and subsequent kernel updates (after some hacking to get it to boot) fail as update-grub can't find the root fs [02:28] which appear to be related to the fstab containing the strange device names === My8os [n=My8os@ppp94-adsl-68.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-253-80.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@83-65-237-189.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:13] Riddell: knm is still not in universe - where can I see the status (it is not in build queue either) - probably because it is new? [03:18] Lure: confusingly the status doesn't seem to be publicly available for such things, but it'll be in NEW [03:19] Riddell: I thought so... [03:30] mornfall: i love the changes to adept updater, everytime i connect my laptop in the monring to the network bam red triangle in the corner :) [03:30] otherwise its gone i love it [03:36] anyone tried to use KURLRequester to select multiple files? it only seems to be returning the directory they are in not the files, which dosen't seem right is it? [03:41] Riddell: is Component chooser missing from KDE components only in KDE 3.5.2 or I did not notice this before? [03:41] Riddell: no way to change default mail/browser app... [03:41] beside kcontrol [03:46] User Account -> Default Applications [03:50] Riddell: thank - never dived into this... [03:50] ;-) === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp doesn't like beagle [04:08] jeroenvrp: why not? [04:08] it locked up my whole desktop after I was away [04:09] and when I used beagle-shutdown it first said there was no beagle daemon running and than my whole kde-session went away [04:11] anyhow, I? still alive :-) [04:20] jjesse [04:20] hmmm it keeps saying my nickname is in use, how do i kick myself out? [04:21] jjesse_: you should use the GHOST command [04:21] GHOST [04:21] try /msg nickserv help [04:21] thank you [04:32] jjesse: how are the docs doing? should I do another snapshot upload? [04:33] Riddell: let me check and get back to you [04:33] mornfall: everytime i open adept i get this error: could not find mime type application/octet-stream [04:34] jjesse: close adept, run kbuildsycoca and run it again, does that fix it? [04:35] lalala [04:35] i don't hear you jjesse ;-) [04:35] Riddell: no it doesn't fix it should i run kbuildsycoca with a sudo? [04:35] i know it's there and i am also fairly sure it's not my fault [04:36] jjesse: definitely not sudo, maybe kdesu but well, dunnow [04:36] jjesse: yes, try that [04:36] yes kdesu [04:37] get errors when i run it kdesu, http://pastebin.com/630813 [04:38] mornfall: did you see that i like the changes to how the adept-update-notifier works? [04:38] jjesse: yes, and that's fine :) [04:39] jjesse: and does it fix it? === jtshaw [n=jshaw@65.207.116.250] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:42] Riddell: nope, i get an error, see the pastebin location [04:43] jjesse: try editing adept.desktop so that Exec=kdesu adept [04:46] Riddell: instead of adept %i %m -caption "%c" === jtshaw [n=jshaw@65.207.116.250] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [04:47] yes [04:48] that solved it [04:48] well, I'm confused [04:49] edited the one located in /usr/share/applications/kde/ === mornfall grrs [04:49] evil evil bug [04:49] i will eventually have to go and debug it [04:49] however, the only way i was able to get the dialog was rm-ing ksycoca and the mimetype [04:49] so that's probably not it :) === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shentey [n=shentey@dslb-088-073-014-138.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne [n=seaLne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:56] does anyone know where to find the default kubuntu ad-block-list for konqueror [05:56] ? [05:56] or am I asking a stupid question now :-) ? [05:57] kubuntu-default-settings [05:57] Riddell: ok I will take a look, thanks === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@pD95093B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alerim [n=alexis@rimbaud.net1.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:09] uhm [06:09] something needs to be done === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:09] i suspect that the amount of people asking me about application/octet-stream is growing non-linearly === faked [n=faked@83-65-237-189.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:15] mornfall: i started getting this update after i installed kde 3.5.2 [06:16] if i recall correctly [06:16] hmm? i'm not sure i understand [06:19] sorry wasn't clear, after i installed kde 3.5.2 i started getting the application/octect error with adept [06:20] jjesse: shouldn't be related, lots of people get it with .1 too === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:26] UVF exception for kblogger granted: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kblogger/+bug/36787 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2202 [06:26] Malone bug 36787 in kblogger kicker-kblogger "UVF Exception 0.4.1 -> 0.5" [Normal,Confirmed] [06:26] would be cool if someone could check the package and upload :) === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:35] anyone here who triggers the build of the latest kde (and koffice) packages? [06:36] shentey: mm hmm [06:37] it would be nice if there was a symlink to the latest stable kde version (kde-stable) [06:37] does that mean no? [06:38] shentey: done [06:39] thanks, wow! === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:40] thanks for pointing that out [06:41] i felt i must tell you === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:42] it looks like the *-latest symlinks point to the latest versions irrespective if it's a development version === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:43] i wonder if there was possible to add extra symliks *-stable which point to the latest stable releases? [06:45] shentey: trouble is that not all packages are made for every distro version, just which makes sense at the time [06:45] shentey: where should I put in a symlink? [06:47] well, if there *was* a development version of KDE 3.6 that kde-latest link probably pointed at that development version, right? [06:48] yes [06:48] the point is if an user wants to live with the latest stable version (and have that updated automatically) this is not possible right now [06:48] the kde35 link goes to stable kde 3.5 [06:48] i c [06:54] btw, is it possible at all to have the latest development and stable versions installed in parallel by using the repository? [06:54] no [06:55] i think developers would get more feedback this way (as they always whish for) [06:56] well it's not possible without altering every package [06:57] hmm... i think this is a feature request? [06:59] there's no clean way of doing it === toma_ is now known as toma [07:03] as i think about it i also see some problems... it's a pity. [07:04] i was just wondering how to get more people testing new software. i figured this was a major probelm [07:04] for individual apps you can make klik bundles [07:05] yes, you're right... that would probably solve that issue === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-253-80.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [07:09] eeeh [07:09] since when crystalsvg's action arrows are black? === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:47] hello [07:50] afternoon pef [07:53] hello jjesse [07:53] how are things going? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:54] all is fine, I have now enough free time to come back helping Ubuntu :) === vdoever [n=oever@p54979645.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:54] yop [07:55] Riddell: got your mail, thanks for knm :) [07:56] is knetworkmanager in now? [07:57] jjesse: looking ;) [07:57] jjesse: still in the new queue [07:57] jjesse: shouldn't be long [07:58] stupid question is it just for wireless network or all networks? where can i find info/ [07:58] jjesse: it is for all network [07:58] it is also a vpn client [07:58] I'm using it on my desktop for the vpn part for example [07:58] will it work w/ cisco vpn concentrators? [07:59] jjesse: depends [07:59] jjesse: is your vpn is ipsec compatible, the vpnc component should work [07:59] yeah it is ipsec compatible, does it allow for nt authentication after connection? [07:59] if it is ssl vpn (assuming openvpn) then it is dpecific, because not "standard" ipsec [08:00] but that's what I use and that works [08:00] jjesse: dunno for the authentification [08:00] I know sisco is a bit specific [08:00] s/sisco/cisco [08:01] jjesse: better is to try ;) [08:01] I personnaly use openvpn only, because I don't like ipsec [08:01] too complicated, not compatible with most routers etc..... [08:01] ssl is way easier to manage [08:02] and openvpn is universal [08:02] you can use client and server on osx, bsd, linux, windows === toma_ is now known as toma === hunger [n=tobias@p54A6216B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:10] Tonio_: we have a cisco vpn concentrator here so that's what i'm stuck with [08:11] jjesse: as I'm saying, there are 2 vpon components for network-manager : vpnc and openvpn [08:11] vpnc is supposed to feet with ipsec vpn servers [08:11] jjesse: is vpnc a working solution for you actually ? [08:11] cause network-manager-vpnc will do nothing more vpnc can do [08:12] it was working then the component will work, it was not, then the component will not [08:14] Riddell: feel free to build kubuntu docs [08:15] Riddell: I'm patching qtparted, the .desktop is crappy and application doesn't work [08:15] su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/qtparted [08:16] that cannot work [08:16] Tonio_: why not? [08:17] Riddell: because su-to-root doesn't work (at least on my computer) [08:17] Riddell: -l: su-to-root: command not found [08:17] how could it ? [08:18] Riddell: that is the launching command in desktop file, and qtparted simply doesn't launch on any of my computers [08:19] hmm, there used to be a command su-to-root, I wonder where it went to [08:20] Riddell: dunno :) but I suggest patching to use X-KDE-SubstituteUID=true [08:20] Riddell: are you okay ? [08:21] Tonio_: you can consider using X-KDE-SubstitudeUID=true in desktop file [08:21] erf :) [08:21] pef: hehe :) [08:21] it would also need to depend on kdelibs-bin in that case [08:21] Riddell: will do [08:21] groovy [08:21] Riddell: hello Jonathan* [08:21] Riddell: I'm waiting for knetworkmanager to be build and will ask for 3 main inclusions, wlassistant, kmplayer and knetworkmanager [08:21] hi pef baby [08:22] Riddell: if you're okay of course ;) [08:22] Tonio_: I've done wlassistant and kmplayer main inclusion [08:22] su-to-root exists and comes from menu package [08:22] Riddell: ah okay ;) I'm sorry but I was so tired.. I didn't find the strengh to do it as I promissed [08:23] sleeping 3 hours per night isn't something I am able to do from monday to friday ;) [08:24] pef: ah, that's where it is [08:24] I think just using kdesu is nicer than su-to-root in this case === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@pD95093B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:35] Riddell: want the qtparted package ? I can't upload cause it is in main ;) [08:36] Tonio_: yes please [08:36] debdiff [08:36] Riddell: okay :) === Den [n=knoppix@dhcp-40-162.EECS.Berkeley.EDU] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:52] Riddell: you should have gotten the debdiff by email === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-247-18.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:54] Riddell: what happened with n-m-kde? [08:54] Pygi, it is still in NEW [08:54] seth: ah, k, thanks ^_^ [08:55] it'll be there in a few days at most :) [08:55] Pygi: It waits wor building :) [08:55] Tonio_: I just looked ... it isn't building yet... [08:56] Pygi: shouldn't be long :) [08:57] ah, ok ^_^ [08:57] Tonio_: willing to make some work done? ^_^ [08:57] Pygi: tell me more ;) [08:57] Tonio_: we need to make patches for n-m [08:57] 0.6.1 to 0.6.2 [08:58] hurg........... === Pygi pokes Tonio_ [08:58] :) [08:58] Pygi: what is the gretest emergency ? [08:58] don't then :-P [08:58] Tonio_: well, what do you mean? [08:58] upgrading n-m or having the vpn packages in ? [08:58] that's very important too [08:59] upgrading n-m = higher priority [08:59] it is stupid to remove the no-vpn patch and don't include the vpn additionnal components :) [08:59] yes, but upgrading nm is more important now [08:59] Pygi: I can't promiss today (I have other things to work on) [09:00] and I'm not here this WE [09:00] I can start working on this for monday [09:00] ah :-P [09:00] by then we'll probably get it already, but we'll see ^_^ [09:01] Pygi: what is the work to be done ? porting patches ? [09:02] make diffs also [09:03] diffs between what ? [09:03] 0.6.1 and 0.6.2 [09:04] for UVFe ? [09:04] yup :) [09:04] that's not hard to do :) [09:04] still :-P [09:04] but as I said, I have other things to work on toonight ;) [09:04] just work :P [09:05] Pygi: I promiss to help you on that on monday if that's not finished :) [09:05] thanks ^_^ === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E0099B.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@83-65-237-189.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-245-103.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:26] hi Tonio_ [09:27] i'm almost too shy to ask [09:27] do you think cubetest will make it into kubuntu? === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked_ [n=faked@83-65-235-144.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:30] vdoever: honnestly, that's nice and fun, but that's not a priority :) [09:31] so it's on the medium term list? [09:31] vdoever: it's not on any list, it just needs someone to do it [09:31] vdoever: consider that we are in feature freeze, so all applications we are currently adding are exceptions [09:32] because they are needed for the distro and waited by most users [09:32] so i should come bugging after the next release? :-) [09:32] like wireless management applications, or beagle frontends [09:32] vdoever: depends how fast we go with required stuff ;) [09:33] but I can't promiss anything === faked__ [n=faked@85-124-47-208.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:33] vdoever: of course, no pb for dapper+1 [09:33] ah good [09:33] vdoever: you can package it yourself of course [09:33] vdoever: if you can provide a package, that will help, yes :) [09:33] well, i don't want to install every distro and write packages for it [09:34] vdoever: what are you currently using ? [09:34] kubuntu is nice, but i've not grown away from suse yet [09:34] vdoever: yeah, but we're special aren't we? :) [09:34] Riddell: ^^ [09:34] of course, you're astronaut affiliated! === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:35] you should put a sticker on the cds: "Astronaut Affiliated!" [09:35] it will sell like hell! [09:35] vdoever: not designed to be sold ;) [09:35] but yeah, kubuntu's nice but i'm recovering from my last 2 experiences where i hated your installer so much because it did not ask for a root pwd [09:36] and i couldn't log in as root and i was completely helpless [09:36] vdoever: logging as root ????? [09:36] later i found out the truth about what happened to nice mr. root [09:36] but then it was too late [09:36] vdoever: why reproducing windows errors concerning security ? [09:36] pef! [09:36] i'm scared [09:36] Tonio_: i'm fine with using sudo [09:37] vdoever: I prefer to hear this :) [09:37] but i'd have liked it if the installer had told me about it [09:37] pef: there's a really elite application called cubetest that you should package [09:37] vdoever: there are documentations for this :) [09:37] documentation? on a live cd? come on [09:37] no you need an icon on the installed desktop or something [09:38] my first reflex on any install is to fix all hardware [09:38] i need to be root for that [09:38] and i really had never thought about sudo [09:38] i thought the installer was buggy [09:38] Riddell: will look for that :) [09:38] maybe you could add a screen to the install [09:38] with big friendly letters [09:38] for demented old farts like me === faked [n=faked@83-65-236-196.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:39] "you cannot login as root, use sudo" [09:39] (or "sudo bash" if you're careless) [09:39] vdoever: there you go, poke pef politely [09:40] sorry to interupt: but is cubetest so very special that a exceptions is necessary? [09:40] when is edubuntu comming out? [09:40] beter to focus on edubunti, I would say [09:41] jeroenvrp: there's no exception needed for new packages, just that the priority should be on fixing things [09:41] oooh [09:41] than Ik have a few packages [09:41] jeroenvrp: you'd need to ask the edubuntu developers, but it'll come out at the same time as kubuntu and ubuntu [09:41] jeroenvrp: throw them up on revu then [09:41] Riddell: like some DVD apps [09:41] like Devede [09:41] and some Komander-apps === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:42] and how many voip-clients do we have [09:42] like wengophone [09:42] or gizmo? [09:43] jeroenvrp: we have been poking the wengo team for a clean tarball for month....... [09:43] they are not releasing anything [09:43] jeroenvrp: and as the svn is a complete mess, including windows components etc..... [09:43] oh I thought that was opensourced [09:43] mmm, yes [09:44] jeroenvrp: it has not been possible to patch it..... [09:44] jeroenvrp: it is, but the sources are not really usable [09:44] yes I can see [09:44] jeroenvrp: that will change with wengophone-ng, the future version still in developpment [09:44] jeroenvrp: i'm not asking for exceptions, cubetest can wait [09:44] jeroenvrp: there the soruces are very nice, but it is still very unstable....... [09:44] vdoever: oh sorry, ik probeer gewoon een discussie los te weken :-) [09:45] jeroenvrp: leuk geprobeerd :-) [09:45] Tonio_: are there not good alternatives? [09:46] jeroenvrp: not to what I know....... [09:46] wengophone is really nice... [09:46] it's up to them to release a tarball so that we can get it in kubuntu (at least in universe) [09:46] yes it is, allthough it does not work out of the box, I noticed [09:46] I asked on their board, and raphink did too [09:46] ok ok ok :-) [09:47] jeroenvrp: it has dependancies issues I think...... [09:48] Riddell: interested in a voip tool in kubuntu ? ubuntu has ekiga so........ [09:48] Tonio_: of course [09:48] Riddell: let's go insult wengo team on their board ^^ [09:49] hmm, that might not be productive :) [09:49] Riddell: insulting politely ;) hehe [09:49] no, but serriously I will ask once again === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:50] they miss great oportunity if they don't release propper tarball...... [09:50] imagin it gets installed by default on a few distros, they would double their clients in a week...... [09:50] french are so stupid in marketing....... [09:50] haha [09:51] jeroenvrp: that's true !!!!!!! we had so many technologies that we haven't been able to sold...... [09:51] and that were on the top..... [09:51] :-) [09:51] jeroenvrp: ever heard about "minitel" ? [09:51] yes [09:51] ok after some tests [09:51] it was very popular [09:51] kpowersave seems to work pretty well on my powerpc [09:51] _BUT_ [09:52] isn't that a shame that nobody bought the technology ? [09:52] the huge problem is that it locks the session [09:52] and I can't unlock it [09:52] anybody has unlock problems ? [09:52] we here in NL had videotext and that was a cheap version [09:52] jeroenvrp: if it was an american one, it would have been installed all over the world...... [09:52] Tonio_: proberly yes [09:53] jeroenvrp: and the only problem with wengophone is that it is developped by a french company :) [09:53] jeroenvrp: so it can be better than skype, it'll always stay a second zone product..... [09:53] ach [09:54] this seems stupid [09:54] somehow I can't copy file to current folder in different name (konqueror) [09:54] Tm_T: french, even in 2006, still don't know how to promote a good technology....... [09:55] uhhoh, konqueror doesn't offer new name to copied file [09:55] Tm_T: yes, I just said same to raphink [09:55] hmm [09:55] Tm_T: it seems kde removed that functionality [09:55] Tm_T: how stupid ! [09:55] ...wtf [09:55] Tm_T: certainly a new french developper in the kde crew........ [09:55] =) [09:56] I mean, wtf [09:56] wtf ? === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-243-104.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:56] yeah, exactly [09:57] which means ? [09:57] anybody has problems unlocking sessions ? [09:57] I can't unlock the sessions [09:57] raphink: let me check [09:57] wtf = what the f*ck and I rarely am this shocked... [09:57] beware Tonio_ [09:57] I just can't get back from locking a session === pef_ [n=loic@dyn-83-156-86-248.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:57] raphink: no pb here :) [09:57] hmmm [09:58] here it says it cannot unlock [09:58] when I type the password [09:58] so I can't get back from it [09:58] Tm_T: we need to create bug for kde to add that functionnality again ! [09:58] which is pretty annoying ... for the least [09:58] Tm_T: that was so usefull............. [09:59] it's crucial imho [09:59] if you can't multiply files in same folder... [10:00] oh well, I don't use konqueror as my filemanager anyway anymore ;( [10:01] raphink: i lock my workstatation all the time and i have no problems, today's updates [10:01] raphink: any feedback from wengo concerning an eventual tarball ? [10:01] jjesse: i386? [10:02] yes sure [10:02] anyone on powerpc ? [10:02] raphink: maybe [10:02] Riddell: hehe ;) [10:02] toma: ping ? [10:02] Riddell: are you able to lock your session and get back to it? [10:03] Tonio_: please do bug report [10:03] raphink: it's currently running an ubuntu hoary CD, I'll let you know when I have kubuntu installed [10:03] Tm_T: I will ;) I was pinging toma for something else ;) [10:04] ty Riddell [10:04] Tonio_: cool, I go to sleep then ;) [10:05] hehe [10:05] hum.... was the "rename when copy in the same folder" still here ith 3.5.1 ? [10:05] I think yes [10:06] it was === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:07] Tm_T: sometimes kde crew makes strange choices........ I must say I can't understand why removing this...... [10:07] me neither [10:07] Tm_T: "to hard for users" , la gnome ? [10:07] I feel shamed [10:07] Tonio_: no idea, I'll try some find [10:07] linus thorvalds will make an heart attack ;) [10:08] exactly [10:08] okay, posting a but report ;) [10:08] s/but/bug [10:12] Tonio_: qtparted uploaded [10:12] Riddell: thanks ;) [10:13] Tonio_: dfaure is the man behind this [10:13] Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123796 [10:13] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-commits&m=114320704805271&w=2 [10:13] Riddell: couldn't that work ? seems ressembling to our issue [10:13] Tm_T: any opinion ? [10:14] aahh! [10:14] known bug [10:14] Tm_T: yes I searched a bit before posting :) [10:15] bugfix released ;) [10:15] Tonio_: looks ok [10:15] Riddell: is kde supposed to be changed before release ? or should we had the patch ? [10:16] Tonio_: sure, please test the patch and send me a debdiff [10:16] Riddell: doing right now ;) [10:16] Tonio_: uuh, you're precious === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:17] Tm_T: but I'm not a very good motu since I quite never on universe for month..... only main in fact ;) [10:18] heh [10:18] Tonio_: hehe ;) [10:18] Tonio_: So you are Quatermain? === Tm_T hasn't really done anything big yet [10:18] Tm_T: technically, that makes me a bad motu de facto :) [10:19] haha [10:27] Tonio_: pong (had to be idle for 20 minutes to test RSIBreak, other story) [10:28] toma: no pb ;) [10:28] toma: I remember you told me you though about investigating a bit on the kicker systemapplet problem or patch ;) [10:28] toma: any news concerning this ? [10:30] Tonio_: ah, no, it is not possible for me to fix that, unless I spend a massive amount of time to it. The only thing i suggested was to remove it from the konq sidebar... [10:30] toma: that's maybe that will be going to happen :) [10:31] Riddell: would you be okay with that solution ? [10:31] raphink: I had a prolbem like that [10:31] toma: thanks ;) [10:31] in Breezy [10:31] OdyX: with a ppc ? [10:31] well a broken item in the sidebar is useless anyway === OdyX hides - Konversation not down. [10:31] raphink: you mean "lockin and unable to lockout ?" [10:32] raphink: did the patch work out btw? [10:32] yes OdyX [10:32] raphink: had that under breezy [10:32] toma: no [10:32] ;-( [10:32] toma: I gave up eventually [10:32] raphink: but never under Dapper (well.. never locked indeed) === toma is not get a good reputation here [10:32] +ting [10:33] Tonio_: ping me when you have tested the patch [10:33] Tonio_: which? [10:34] Riddell: the problem with the system component in konqsidebar [10:35] Tonio_: yeah, fine [10:35] Riddell: the kicker systemapplet patch creates an issue o that component........ toma was suggesting to remove it, because not very usefull [10:35] Riddell: okay I will patch k-d-s [10:39] new test.. bbi20 [10:41] Riddell: I was looking at rosetta, is it normal all the patches we've applied on universe packages are still not there ? [10:41] kde-pwmanager for example [10:42] Tonio_: how do you mean? [10:42] Riddell: I don't find any of the application I packaged with the kdepotpatch [10:43] Riddell: kdelibs building, will take some time....... [10:43] Tonio_: the rosetta people are still coding the kde support [10:44] "next week" [10:44] Riddell: great ;) just wanted to be sure that wasn't lost job :) === Tonio__ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E0099B.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:56] Riddell: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=114368252628101&w=2 [10:56] Riddell: is this in kubuntu? [10:57] verwilst: no [10:57] ok :) [10:57] didn't know since my rmb's are pretty fast afaik [11:00] bed! === KabelKasper [n=KabelKas@i5387FEE9.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:08] http://forum.wengo.com/viewtopic.php?p=4652 [11:08] feel free to add comments ;) === Tonio_ proves to Riddell he can ask politely :) [11:09] Tonio_: very civilised :) [11:10] Riddell: I authorize you to call french "froggies" if they don't answer ;) [11:13] =) [11:13] Tonio_: hey, what's the situation with the patch? ;) [11:14] Tm_T: building.......... kdelibs isn't short time to package :) [11:14] Tm_T: maybe he's decided to include that menu caching patch verwilst pointed out :) [11:14] Tm_T: and my laptop is a 1.5 ghz celeron...... [11:15] Tonio_: my dad works for a French company, I grew up calling French people frogs :) [11:15] Tonio_: yay! [11:15] mais non, je ne suis pad un roastbeef, je suis un haggis [11:15] Riddell: hahaha [11:15] s/pad/pas/ [11:16] I must say I sometime call english people "rosbeaf" [11:16] but french generally do not [11:16] bah, I was never able to speak french properly [11:17] I do understand it, and can write fairly well, but speaking kills me :P [11:17] Pygi: french is a very hard language [11:17] Tonio_: nah, just speaking is hard... [11:17] Pygi: grammar is horrible [11:18] bah, then you can say like that for italian for example as well [11:18] while italian was easier for me to learn then french [11:18] italian is easier, by far [11:18] ah [11:18] Kako si? Sto se radi? Talijanski je daleko laksi... [11:18] what about this? ;( [11:19] ;)* [11:19] what the f*ck is that ? [11:19] do not insult my language ;) [11:20] sorry !! what is this ? swedish or something ? [11:20] danish ? [11:20] croatian ;) [11:20] k ;) [11:20] coffee time :) [11:21] that's the only thing I'm proud in france ;) best coffee in the world [11:22] Pygi: croatia is a very beautifull country ;) you can proud of it :) [11:22] +be [11:22] Tonio_: bah, ever been here? [11:23] Pygi: about 20 years ago, but according to what I remember, that was really beautifull [11:23] oh, 20 years ago :-P [11:23] hehe yes, I was only 9 [11:23] so maybe that was completly awfull, but beautifull in my child eyes :) [11:23] ^_^ [11:24] ;) === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.183.170] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp81-adsl-23.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === KabelKasper [n=KabelKas@i5387FEE9.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Moin] === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KabelKasper [n=KabelKas@i5387FEE9.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel