[12:05] research and development is still on tha way [12:05] which is by the school it self [12:05] the school pay this project [12:05] and i'm dead because solo lol ;p [12:07] the system also come with mobile checking [12:07] need major php brain in this [12:08] are you looking for people to help you on your project? [12:08] yes i am lol [12:08] is this project open source? [12:08] help wanted ;p [12:09] i can make it an open source [12:09] because it's mine ;p [12:09] it's really my solo work .. no kidding [12:10] but as you see i'm not good in php [12:11] if you guys can help me please give me an idea before it has to be commercial [12:11] python better ;) [12:12] ok ;) [12:12] anyways thank you for your time :) [12:12] hm, ok, listen [12:13] why don't you put ur project on sourceforge, give specs, invite people to help you out? [12:14] i started the research since 1999 and this is the key to malaysia government [12:14] if it's fall into the wrong hand they gonna make money [12:14] that's y :) === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [12:15] pls read moe.gov.my [12:15] read the ICT project [12:16] also i have apply 5% of the software in kelantan government and i won [12:17] http://www.kelantan.gov.my/ppst/pemenangaplikasi05.htm [12:17] isomania, I am still a little confused about how we can help you [12:18] edubuntu can only support free and open source software and we (edubuntu) already has a school management tool, schooltool [12:18] i say at the school they install your edubuntu [12:18] say = saw lol [12:18] if you are looking for people to help you, as Pygi mentioned, list it on sourceforge [12:18] and interested the way you guys work .. i just trying my luck with the best team :) [12:19] :-P [12:20] anyway thanks :) all the best guys .. [12:21] ok guys i'm tired need some sleep thanks for your time [12:22] if you guys change your mind please contact me at my email and i'll be glad to give you more info [12:22] ery@eonline.com.my [12:22] isomania, it is not a matter of changing our mind. I am not certain what you need [12:23] it is a question of not understanding [12:23] oh [12:23] my motif is trying to get another edubuntu for malaysia school [12:23] which is integrated with my sms (school management system) [12:24] ah, so you need edubuntu to be able to support your sms? [12:24] yeah with a bit of little work [12:24] I would suggest emailing edubuntu-devel with a list of what edubuntu lacks [12:25] ah that's a great idiea [12:26] with the understanding that edubuntu can only support free and open source software in edubuntu itself [12:26] ie, if you need a pieces to get your sms to run that is not FLOSS, you will need to provide it yourself [12:27] sorry for my bugging and fast explaining because i'm in a state between comercialysing or opensource [12:27] np [12:27] I would try and break your application into distinct pieces, so you can open source the majority and have closed source plugins [12:28] this sms is gonna memoradom of understanding with india & us company if i not try to open-source it [12:28] they also will provide the fund that's y i'm so fast explaining lol [12:30] what do you need from mee database structure? [12:34] ie, if you need a pieces to get your sms to run that is not FLOSS, you will need to provide it yourself <== oh [12:35] kk.. i try the edubuntu and make it intergrated [12:35] i'll be contacting you later and see what can be done so the merging can be solve [12:36] Thank you burgwork for explaining === banbot [n=banbot@tor/session/x-bbc14166fd963e8d] has joined #edubuntu [01:09] -banbot:#edubuntu- lol g, join #bant0wn and get hugs visit http://binrev.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #edubuntu SUCKS === banbot [n=banbot@tor/session/x-bbc14166fd963e8d] has left #edubuntu [] [01:09] hmm, interesting [01:09] disappointing [01:11] Hey I am using GAIM for IRC and I don't like it, can anyone suggest a good IRC client other than Xchat ? === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.101.223] has joined #edubuntu [01:11] iGotNoTime: do you want a GUI? [01:11] LaserJock: I assume it is easier to work with? [01:11] LaserJock: do you use a CLI? [01:12] I would be willing to try one out :) [01:12] iGotNoTime: a lot of people use irssi which is CLI [01:12] ok will try that one :) [01:12] it is incredibly powerful especially when you use it with screen [01:12] with screen? [01:13] I usually use xchat (if I feel GUI) or irssi (if I want to ssh into another box and chat) [01:13] can I have it run as my desktop background? [01:13] apt-cache show screen [01:13] like behind my gnome widget? [01:13] :D [01:13] thanks [01:14] screen is a really cool app if you do things CLI or ssh into your box [01:14] no never [01:15] but will look anyhow :) [01:15] if you do KDE it all konversation is a great irc client [01:15] ok [01:15] thanks for the help :) [01:16] np === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu === IGNT [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === IGNT [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === IGNT [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu [01:29] iGotNoTime: how's the testing going? [01:29] I gave up :P [01:29] Xchat it is [01:29] I don't like leaving terminal open === p4olo [n=linux@217-133-1-186.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #edubuntu [01:30] http://linux-club.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=829 === p4olo [n=linux@217-133-1-186.b2b.tiscali.it] has left #edubuntu ["Sto] [01:31] iGotNoTime: lol, I live in terminals. 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[07:19] Anybody have a URL to some nice pictures, presentations, slideshows or the like for Edubuntu? I have a demonstration tomorrow for it and I'd like some nice shtuff to show off... [07:22] LNS, did you check the wiki_ [07:22] ? [07:23] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Presentations [07:23] or ConferenceAppereance [07:23] or something [07:23] like that [07:23] LNS: I have only in spanish,and not here but at the office [07:24] thank you mhz [07:24] sorry for not helping you [07:25] no that was good, i'll check those out =) thanks!! i'm gonna try and make one too i think, a nice pdf === LNS is now known as LNS_afk === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === LNS_afk is now known as LNS === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-217-175.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-217-175.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:00] spacey: ping [09:00] WenaJ iH [09:01] highvoltage: are you bored on a Friday? [09:01] semitemos :aivadnagruB [09:02] i really, really needed another hour or two worth of sleep === highvoltage suspects that this will be a low-concentration day [09:06] JaneW: pong [09:06] early [09:08] hi [09:08] egatlovhgiH olleH [09:08] spacey: I just wanted to ask about the cookbook [09:09] pigy said he sent you a mail [09:09] Pygi wasn;t very happy about the meeting [09:09] but i don't know whats in there [09:09] :p [09:09] meeting was quite useless [09:09] pigy and i were the only ones who prepared [09:09] fwded mail to you [09:10] do you think it can still happen? [09:10] ofcourse flint was starting rambling about other stuff as usual [09:10] we got some small suggestions from kjcole and hedgemage [09:10] but thats it [09:10] not real input [09:10] so [09:11] i was thinking about a small work meeting [09:11] JaneW: i agree with some of the things you said in your email [09:11] the cookbook project needs a strong leader, i don't know if we have someone that has really stepped up to that yet [09:11] with you, me, piggy and highvoltage or something [09:12] ah [09:12] see the mail now [09:12] not sure why he didn't sent it to me:p [09:12] highvoltage: that implies that you didn't agree with others...? ;) [09:13] he is probably not too happy with me :P [09:13] spacey: ah I feared flint would have been there! [09:13] damn [09:13] look this is a community project and anyone can and may speak up [09:13] BUT flint hasn't taken ownership of anything [09:14] and has explicitly told me he won't either [09:14] so I think we should disregard him when he is merely being disruptive and causing trouble [09:14] he enjoys conflict [09:14] and we simply don;t have the time or resources to continually indulge in circular debates [09:15] I am of the opinion that we get the damn thing done [09:15] JaneW: i actually just spead-read through it, so i can't say yet that I 100% agree with everything (yet) [09:15] (as I have said numerous times) [09:15] highvoltage: read through what? [09:15] it doesn;t have to be perfect [09:15] spacey: jane's mail [09:15] it just has to be FINISHED [09:15] once it is finished we can always improve on it [09:15] ah [09:15] there's a bunch of people who have food intentions that we shoudn't entirely exclude [09:15] damn, I wish I had time to help you guys [09:15] i forgot to read the response [09:16] (good intentions) [09:16] but to date we really have nothing to show after more than 6 months [09:16] jsgotangco made a good start initially, but simply didn;t have the time to commit to it [09:16] Burgundavia: do it! ;) [09:17] highvoltage: are you hungry? [09:17] i don't have time to help manage the edubuntu cookbook either :( if i had, i would've sorted it out ages ago [09:17] yup [09:17] JaneW: perhaps more of a force of habit ;) [09:17] so we need to either find [09:17] 1) One person who has the time and ability to do it [09:17] or [09:17] JaneW: my editor would kill me [09:17] JaneW: i'm not sure what pygi's problem is with me. i find it wierd that he didn't sent the mail to me, maybe he misunderstands me, or was not happy how i handled the meeting. [09:17] 2) A small group who are able to work together and split the load between them, to finish it together [09:18] spacey: I dunno... [09:22] i think a very small group should just get *a* version done, doesn't have to be big, doesn't have to be fancy [09:23] then a larger group can work on polish and specific sections that they are interested in. [09:23] that would be both the fastest way, and... [09:23] and i've lost my train of though. === highvoltage get some orange juice === winanga [n=andrew@203-206-178-115.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-205-203.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === tttme [n=chatzill@63-172-73-35-adsl.toledotel.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:30] hello everybody [11:32] hello lns === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [11:37] leave bye [11:39] http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg === tdjb [n=tdjb@216.222.48.32] has joined #edubuntu === tdjb [n=tdjb@216.222.48.32] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=co@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=co@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.101.223] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@200.55.195.158] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [06:13] channel ping [06:15] highvoltage: whats up ? [06:16] Yagisan: friday afternoon, just chilling a bit :) [06:18] Yagisan: and you? [06:19] highvoltage: saturday morning here. have a 1062MB upgrade to do :( [06:19] highvoltage: and I'm spearheading a copyright and license audit of a FLOSS project [06:20] geez! [06:20] Yagisan: happy april fools day to you then :) [06:20] is it ? [06:20] damm - I'm really out of it then [06:21] highvoltage: do you like auditing licenses ? [06:22] Yagisan: i haven't done it before, but from what i've read, it can get tedious, depending on what you have to do === venkat [n=venkat@24-148-25-238.nwb-bsr1.chi-nwb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #edubuntu === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-246-208.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [06:23] Yagisan: does that include things like, checking the code for parts that belongs under an incompatible license? [06:23] spacey: around? [06:25] JaneW: ping [06:25] highvoltage: oh yes. exactly like that. http://deng.sourceforge.net/blog/?p=33 [06:27] highvoltage: here? [06:28] Pygi: yep [06:28] Yagisan: looking... [06:28] whats up? [06:30] getting ready for the weekend [06:30] i have lots of work planned for myself. need to get that organised. [06:36] highvoltage: ah, we need to have a meeting soon === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [06:37] kiki click on "Edit", but it doesn't give me a place to change the user (by a co-incidence, ogra) into an administrator :/ [06:37] bah, wrong window [06:38] ogra: you here? [06:41] highvoltage: have you rea new mail I just sent? [06:41] s/rea/read [06:41] Pygi: let me check.. my mail is still downloading... should be here in a minute or so. [06:43] highvoltage: as you can see "fun" times ahead for me [06:44] Yagisan: yep, yep === axl000 [n=axl@210-48-89.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [06:47] ogra: what is happenning to you? :P [06:48] ogra must have some heavy IRC withdrawel symptoms :) [06:49] Pygi: got it [06:49] Pygi: read it [06:50] highvoltage: k, mind to respond if you have time? [06:50] Pygi: i feel that we should include everyone who wants to contribute, even though i do agree that a small team should dedicate some time to get the 1st version up [06:50] ok, will reply by e-mail [06:51] highvoltage: I am still for the thing that we should write the book (three or four of us) [06:51] highvoltage: will be much better.... [06:52] Pygi: there is a time constraint problem though :/ [06:52] highvoltage: bah, we can make it ^_^ [06:52] Pygi: if we all had a solid 2/3 days, we could do it easily [06:52] highvoltage: we can do it this way as well, just a bit more tougher === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-205-203.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [06:53] Pygi: i suppose i'll have to think about this in more depth, i never got involved with the edubuntu cookbook, since i assumed flint was handling it [06:53] well that sucked. gaim suddenly quit [06:54] highvoltage: ah,k [06:54] Pygi: i am interested, though, i did big parts of the tuxlab cookbook, on which the edubuntu cookbook would be based on [06:55] ah :) [06:55] Pygi: i've been tempted to skip sleep this weekend and just adapt the software module update to V2.00 to a edubuntu cookbook draft, but i'm not 100% sure that i'm up to that quite yet :) [06:55] :-P === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:10] ogra: how are things? we miss you. [07:11] highvoltage, not so good ... [07:13] ogra: how so? [07:13] we had a fatality in my GFs family ... my life is a bit upside down atm [07:13] :( [07:13] i'm sorry to hear that [07:13] and will get worse predictably [07:14] me too oliver [07:14] geez. was it direct family member? [07:14] her mother [07:14] really unhappy to hear that things === Yagisan is very sorry to hear that [07:15] ogra: my condolences to you and GF [07:15] Yagisan, thanks i'll forward it ... [07:16] btw, flight-6 is ready [07:16] (not released yet, but should happen the next hours) [07:16] ogra: i know there's nothing i can do to make things better, but my condolences too, i can't imagine what she (and you) must be going through, but she can be glad she has you, i'm also glad that you're putting her first [07:17] ogra, my condolences as well [07:17] highvoltage, my prob is, that its way more than just a dies mother, she cared for my GFs handicapped brother and has a lot of real estate stuff at the other side of the country ... [07:18] highvoltage, i'm currently starting to pack boxes to prepare moving etc ... [07:18] ogra: i'll pvt msg you... [07:18] yep === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [07:35] ogra, what do you think about possibly doing a squeak virtual package that depends on squeak-sources squeak-vm and squeak-image [07:35] as you like :) [07:36] i'm fine with the idea === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:37] could I just tack that binary on to the squeak-vm source package or do I need to make a whole new source package? === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:41] i think its fine in -vm [07:42] I also whipped up a zenity script to handle starting squeak from the menu [07:43] is that really necessary ? [07:43] i'd like to avoid additional complication where possible [07:44] well, basically it was the only way I could find to start the thing from a menu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:44] they do a terrible job of starting the thing up [07:45] hmm, i have started it with the breezy version just fine with the squeak script from the linex dir [07:45] but they actually wanted to include my script in their packages I think (they wanted me to mail it to there ML) [07:45] the problem is the included script is fine from the CLI [07:46] its been fine from the menu as well ... [07:46] really? [07:46] what script did you use? [07:46] at least back whne i built the initial package [07:46] the suqeak script from the linex dir in the squeak-vm source package [07:47] ok, well maybe I'll have a look [07:47] the ones i\ [07:47] I've tried become interactive [07:47] and so in the menu they just go into infinite loops [07:48] there is no need for interaction [07:48] lets just define a fixed location for the image ;) [07:48] hmmm [07:48] ~/.squeak for example [07:49] if its not there, create a default image, else just start with that one [07:49] the thing is that it seems like people often use more than one image [07:50] we can certainly start with a fixed location for sure [07:50] then lets peek your script for a second menu itam we hide by default ... so the "normal" users that just diont care about locations can start ricght away and the advanced ones can enable it with alacarte [07:50] s7peek/keep/ [07:51] or even show them both but call one "squeak" and one "select squeak image" [07:52] ogra: http://pastebin.com/632978 is my zenity script [07:54] it's shorter (and simpler) than the linex script [07:54] i didnt say the linex one is good ;) [07:54] i just said it worked :) [07:55] ok, lets just go with yours [07:55] but dont forget the dependency on zenity ;) [07:55] yes [07:56] I hate to increase the deps but since zenity is installed by default in ubuntu and edubuntu I don't think we are loosing much [07:56] nope [07:56] only if people want suqeak in KDE might be an issue [07:56] yeah [07:57] or in a lightweight environment ... [07:57] but lest see, if we get no bugs, it must be fine ... [07:57] zenity was just the easiest at the time [07:57] yep === ogra wouldnt want xdialog there :) [08:00] anyway, the squeak devs were very interested in the script so I'm hoping this kind of starter will get included upstream so we don't have to worry about it [08:00] yep [08:00] it is somewhat annoying that they don't have a very good way of opening images [08:00] from the menu [08:01] but as i said before, i doubt the package will see many updates anyway [08:01] so we dont need to care too much about upstream ... [08:01] (since ther eis not much active development ) [08:03] ok, so I'm going to add the virtual package and add this zen script as startsqueak or something [08:03] fine [08:03] :) [08:03] and then there will be startsqueak and squeak so everybody is happy [08:04] yep [08:04] and I can close ~ 3 bugs [08:04] :) [08:07] I'm already happy :) [08:08] good, less work for me ;-) [08:08] a few weeks ago someone sent me a link with step by step help for mounting drives in Edubuntu... I have since reformatted [08:09] does anyone have a link I can use to do that again? [08:09] I have 6 drives and 4 are not yet mounted [08:09] http://doc.ubuntu.com/ [08:09] ok :) [08:09] I will bookmark this time :) [08:10] or install ubuntu-dosc, then you have it locally in the help viewer [08:10] good plan :) [08:10] *ubuntu-docs indeed [08:11] ogra: is there an edubuntu-docs package? [08:11] yes, but not much content yet [08:11] and its neither in main nor is it a dep of edubuntu-desktop yet [08:11] there is on the WiKi why not copy and paste? [08:11] but thats planned for dapper [08:11] iGotNoTime: believe me, it's not that easy ;-) [08:12] we want edubuntu specific documentation in edubuntu-docs, not the common stuff thats in ubuntu-docs [08:12] why? I mean is it simply a man-power thing? [08:12] I see [08:12] because that would duplicate the efforts [08:13] iGotNoTime: your name implies some of the problems :) [08:13] highvoltage, that's what i assumed the issue was [08:13] iGotNoTime: kinda, and then docs are usually written in DocBook and you have to make sure you got everything right [08:13] you guys know the most helpful page I have seen is the Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide [08:13] It had all the questions I wanted answered in there [08:13] ogra, who is working on a basic install guide for edubuntu? [08:14] iGotNoTime: try the Ubuntu Desktop Guide on doc.ubuntu.com [08:14] Burgwork, that'd be me on my TODO i guess [08:14] yes am there now LaserJock :) [08:14] ogra, ok, I will add it to my todo [08:14] Burgwork, oh, wow, thanks a lot !! [08:17] is there work started somewhere? [08:17] ogra: where should i find the edubuntu inst guide on my installation again? i looked in /usr/share/doc/edubuntu-docs, but there's just two files in there :/ [08:18] Burgwork, EdubuntuInstallNotes [08:18] ok [08:18] we want something in docbook? [08:18] yelp can html, no ? [08:19] if not, then yes, we want docbook [08:19] yelp can do html or docbook [08:19] docbook gets us pdf [08:20] which, in this market, is a major win [08:20] blah pdf LOL [08:20] Burgwork: is docboook easier for translation? [08:20] but docbook is harder for contributors [08:21] i'd prefer that anyone can contribute ... doing it with nvu or openoffice html editor for example ... [08:21] yes and yes, LaserJock and ogra [08:21] yes, it is a problem but if they provide content, it can be added [08:21] otherwise you need to learn docbook or an editor for it first [08:22] OO can export xml if that helps at all [08:22] i think for now i'm fine with either, we'll see if people have problems# [08:22] its the first time we ship any docs anyway ... === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-247-181.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [08:22] we can change it in later releases [08:22] yes [08:23] docbook means I can use the existing ubuntu/kubuntu doc toolchain [08:23] i'm preparing a ltsp howto that i'll keep in html for example (simply because you can read it with lynx in a terminal) [08:24] but for desktop only docs, docbook should be fine [08:24] ogra: i just got vmware, which seems much smoother than qemu. i can get updated screenshots and instructions for the installation section [08:24] cool [08:24] qemu is a pain [08:26] I agree [08:26] highvoltage: which version ? [08:26] qemu is better than nothing, i think it will improve with time. [08:26] Yagisan: vmware? it's 5.5 [08:27] highvoltage: trial, paid or "extended trial >:)" [08:28] trial. will be paid by end of next week. [08:28] qemu need to be a bit more user friendly. That's my problem [08:28] i could've saved many, many hours if i had it earlier. [08:28] qemu and networking causes me so many issues. [08:29] wish it was as easy as vmware to set up [08:40] how indepth should this install guide by. Should it be "Box to Desktop?" [08:41] ogra: i'm going to combine that 'software' and 'technical' part, then we'll just call it 'Getting started with Edubuntu', that fine? [08:41] yep [08:42] Burgwork, i think just adaptin dapper specifics into the InstallNotes is enough ... [08:43] ok [08:43] so from putting in the Cd until ltsp is running :) [08:44] ok === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-160-183.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-205-203.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [09:03] w00t failed dapper upgrade :( [09:05] I have a dialog box. The title is question. There is no content, but until it's gone, my gnome panels wont start. If I force quit it, it just restarts. :( [09:06] I'm very glad I had an icon for xterm on the desktop. It's the only thing that works. === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-220-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:31] spacey, janew: around? [09:52] ogra: the current "Install a server" option, is that a minimal setup, or a bare edubuntu server setup? [10:10] my word. i've forgotten how much there is to write about installing edubuntu. just the boot option screen for the cd boot has a lot to write about. [10:18] yup === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-247-181.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [10:42] spacey: around? [10:45] just got in [10:46]