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frank23travail101: um it's easier if you follow the "quick and dirty way" and then create the symlinks for the plugins12:03
Jrwagood evening all12:03
_redondo_I tested dapper drake flight 4, and the kernel doesn't support my pctel modem12:03
frank23_redondo_: is that a winmodem?12:04
_redondo_yes, of course...12:04
_harmcan i haveCOMPOSITE things via X.org in KDE?12:04
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frank23!winmodem12:04
ubotufrom memory, winmodem is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto for instructions on setting up your modem (including winmodems). Additional info can be found at http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/12:04
_redondo_that's a problem... I have to stay there...12:05
_redondo_with breezy12:05
frank23_harm: try asking #ubuntu+1 or #xgl12:05
JrwaI've come because a RAM memory on my dapper12:06
frank23_redondo_: oh its working in breezy but not dapper?12:06
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Jrwasince I upgraded from my breezy, I'm running out of RAM (1Gb). KDE starts with over 700Mb used, and it starts growing til the pc freezes on 920Mb of ram used12:07
JrwaI wonder if there's a known bug that's causing that12:07
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frank23Jrwa: what process is using the ram?  gam_server?12:07
Jrwaroot      4612  3.0 41.8 438800 433084 tty7    SLs+ 09:32  26:11 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:12:08
Jrwathat's the X server with the 41% of the whole ram, I dunno if that's normal12:08
_redondo_frank23: yes, yes...12:08
frank23Jrwa: no that's alot. X is using 15% of 1 GB RAM for me12:09
JrwaIt worked correctly on breezy12:09
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frank23_redondo_: not sure... check #dapper+1   try flight 5.  everything that worked on breezy *should* work on dapper. If not it's a bug12:09
_redondo_no... because when you compile a driver... it is designed for a special range of kernels...12:10
_redondo_it's the kernel...12:10
frank23_redondo_: where does the driver come from?12:10
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_redondo_what do you mean ?12:12
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Jrwaso no one knows anything about X eating ram? :)12:12
frank23_redondo_: where does the kernel source come from?12:12
_redondo_can be the architecture...12:12
frank23_redondo_: I mean module12:12
_redondo_wich is ??12:12
allyourrejectsi can't get /etc/init.d/setserial   to work.  I have  /dev/ttyS0 port 0x0338 irq 4 autoconfig      in /etc/serial.config  am i missing something?12:12
_redondo_from the pctel driver for linux page12:13
_redondo_a .gz with the code12:13
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_redondo_I explain the error...12:13
_redondo_when I compile it on dapper kernel, I make:12:14
_redondo_modprobe pctel12:14
_redondo_and all is ok12:14
_redondo_now, I have to do modprobe pctel_hw12:14
_redondo_there, modprobe freezes and give me segmentation fault...12:15
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frank23_redondo_: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto#head-0164869cfd1c39a2bdff939835094630ba26bdef  I think your modem should be supported by the conexant driver12:15
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_redondo_conexant...12:15
Kr4t05Question12:15
_redondo_but... my modem is pctel..12:15
Kr4t05How do I get Kopete to log in?12:15
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_redondo_what supports conexant ?12:16
_redondo_krt4t05: go to configure, look out for: new account12:16
_redondo_you won't need to give your passwd each time you log in}12:16
nukyis there a way to create a session that gets loaded when you start kde? in the session manager, there's an option to restore manually saved session, but how do you manually save a session?12:16
Kr4t05I have all my accounts in, but I can't make it sign on.12:16
frank23_redondo_: yes but according to http://www.modemsite.com/56k/pctel.asp  they have conexant hardware12:17
Kr4t05nvm12:17
_redondo_ahh ok12:17
frank23_redondo_: do a little research to confirm that for your specific modem12:17
_redondo_ok, I'll look out12:18
_redondo_thanks12:18
JrwaI bet _redondo_'s spanish :)12:18
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_redondo_jajaj12:19
_redondo_hah12:19
_redondo_yes12:19
_redondo_sorry12:19
Jrwasi es que se nos nota mazo, jajajaja12:19
_redondo_inevitablemente12:19
_redondo_jej12:19
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wsjuniorsup guys, i've just upgraded to kde 3.5.2 now my konqueror looks like this -> http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6061/konqueror9dq.jpg12:22
wsjuniorhow to fix that?12:22
frank23wsjunior: that's normal if you start from the button in the taskbar.12:23
wsjuniorfrank23: normal?12:24
wsjuniortwo google bars?12:24
frank23wsjunior: just type in an adress12:24
frank23wsjunior: oh... didn't notice12:24
wsjunior:)12:24
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frank23wsjunior: hmmm... I also have 2 google bars. never noticed it before ;)12:25
frank23I guess that tells alot about my attention to detail!12:25
JrwaXDD12:25
wsjuniorheh.12:25
wsjunior:-p12:25
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wsjuniorfrank23: fixed. konqueror/settings/configure extesions12:27
KyralMeh...I think my connection to my server is being slowed by multiple IPTables rules...12:27
wsjuniorfrank23: there are two google bar plugins12:27
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_shanedoes anyone know how to change a USB flash drive from mounting 'noexec' to mounting 'exec'?12:34
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Kyralmake a fstab entry with its /dev entry and specify "exec"?12:36
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_shaneKyral: but there is no entry for USB drives in fstab12:37
_shaneKyral: does an entry override the auto config?12:38
nukyhey, how do i know what folder my kde is installed in? it's needed for a configuration of a program i want to install from source..12:38
Kyralnuky: you mean kde-prefix?12:38
_shanenuky: <home>.kde12:38
Kyral_shane: thats the settings12:38
Kyralnuky: does it want to know the prefix?12:39
Kyralor the location?12:39
ninniuzkde-config --prefix ?12:39
Kyralwell12:39
Kyral./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`12:39
nukyKyral: yeah, it wants it ike this: ./configure --prefix= here directory path of your KDE312:39
Kyralthe backticks are important12:39
nukyoh, thanks!12:40
Kyralwhat proggy?12:40
nukykbilliards <enter embarrassed smiley> sorry12:40
Kyrallol sokay12:41
nukythanks :)12:41
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wsjuniorwhy i can't use admin mode in kcontrol?12:46
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wsjunioris anybody here able to use admin mode in kcontrol?12:47
domlwsjunior: yes, it takes a minute after giving it my password but works okay for me12:48
_shanedoes anyone know how to setup udev/hotplug to mount a USB flash drive 'exec' not 'noexec'?12:48
wsjuniorkde 3.5.2?12:48
wsjuniordoml: here it only shows loading..12:48
domlwsjunior: KDE: 3.4.312:49
wsjuniorhum..12:49
wsjuniori'm trying with kde 3.5.212:49
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domlThe   device   will   be   mounted   with    the    following    flags:12:56
doml       async,atime,nodev,noexec,noauto,nosuid,user,rw12:56
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doml_shane: you can try adding the device to /etc/fstab but the pmount man page says that12:56
domlso check out pmount and go from there12:56
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-banbot:#kubuntu- lol g, join #bantown and get hugs visit http://binrev.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #kubuntu SUCKS01:00
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Dasnipa`erm how bout an addband for him01:01
Dasnipa`addban*01:01
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domlare there any mods on the channel?01:02
domlw007 anarchy!01:03
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frank23doml: they're here but only take ops if needed01:04
Dasnipa`yeah but n=banbot@tor/session/x-98b498c6a8c37e23 needs a ban01:05
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frank23!ops01:06
ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee01:06
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domlheh, that's handy01:06
naliothfrank23: may i help you?01:07
naliothfrank23: n/m01:07
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frank23oh that banbot left already01:07
naliothdoesnt matter01:07
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_shanedoml: I couldn't find in any mention of being able to change how it mounts the drive.01:08
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doml_shane: yeah, just glancing at that briefly, my guess is that you would have to add /dev/sda1 or whatever to fstab and explicitly mount/umount it which seems a little heavy-handed considering01:10
Tm_Tnalioth: yay!01:11
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domlI wonder how many folks here are tor users...01:12
Snake__tor?01:13
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domlanonymizer/proxy for networking01:14
Snake__o ok01:14
Kr4t05Hrm...01:14
Kr4t05that could be useful. :P01:14
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domlit's pretty cool.  but that bot is the reason why there's many channels, and now this one, that don't allow tor01:14
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Kr4t05that has to suck.01:15
MyxomatosisCan anyone help me with some gcc issues on Kubuntu?01:16
domlspeaking of sucking, I can't get revelation (password manager) to run under kde in kubuntu...01:16
Snake__Myxomatosis: whatcha got01:18
Snake__doml: whats wrong with kwallet (I think its called)01:18
Snake__doml: kwalletmanager**01:19
me2win!lart Dr_House01:19
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MyxomatosisWell when I try and compile a program using gcc it won't recognize stdio.h01:19
Snake__Myxomatosis: whats the error01:19
Myxomatosistest.c:1:18: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory01:20
domlsnake__: kwallet doesn't have all my passwords in it.  i need to decrypt my existing revelation file01:20
MyxomatosisThis is what it says.01:20
MyxomatosisI'm thinking maybe I'm just missing a certain package but I have no idea which one to get.01:20
Snake__Myxomatosis: hmm not sure :(01:20
Snake__doml: ah01:20
MyxomatosisDamn this is really bothering me. The only reason I got kubuntu was so I could do assignments from home and I can't even do that.01:21
domlsnake__: yeah, see, that's the rub.  it's just an AES encrypted XML file... Idda thought that stuff like this would be standardized enough for me to keep a file across applications01:21
Snake__doml: I dunno how much HDD space you got, but perhaps install ubuntu and get your passwords?01:22
domlmyxomatosis: if stdio doesn't exist, then you're missing a lot of the development libraries etc01:23
domlor that's what it sounds like01:23
MyxomatosisI figured, I'm just not sure which libraries I need to get.01:23
domlprobably a lot of them01:24
MyxomatosisI tried looking through the synaptic package manager but there were so many I wasn't sure what I needed.01:24
domlstart with gcc, look at the recommended packages, and install those too.  just go from there01:24
naliothKr4t05: doml: exceptions to any blanket ban on the list can be assigned to a user who has a legitimate need for tor01:24
lwelynGute Nacht.01:25
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domlargh!  so i finnally got all the dependancies sorted out so i could "compile" revelation and I still get the same error01:27
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Snake__Myxomatosis: have you gotten build-essential ?01:27
MyxomatosisI'm not sure, let me check.01:27
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MyxomatosisNo I didn't, installing it now though.01:28
Snake__Get that01:28
_shanewhat command do I use in a scipt to put something in /var/log/messages ?01:29
MyxomatosisAh! It worked! Thank you so much.01:30
Snake__Yep :)01:30
MyxomatosisThank god, now I actually can justify having this OS on my second hard drive. Thanks.01:30
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Snake__lol01:30
pikesblive soundcard distupgrade to dapper.. no sound help :)01:32
doml_shane: that's syslog, I haven't bothered to send stuff to syslog from a script, but you must be able to01:32
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wsjuniorhow to play .avi and .mpeg videos with kaffeine and gstreamer?01:34
_shanedoml: found it, it is logger01:34
domllogger?  sounds handy01:34
shawn___hey01:35
shawn___what do I change to get read access to my ntfs partition as user01:35
shawn___I tried looking around changing the line in fstab but no luck01:36
pikeshawn___: mount -o umask=0000 /dev etc. will work01:36
pikeshawn___: or just specify umask=000,defautls in fstab or something01:36
Snake__ubotu: tell wsjunior about restrictedformats01:36
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pikeanyone using dapper? i cant seem to get sound working after dist-upgrade01:39
shawn___pike: no luck with that01:39
wsjuniorSnake__: thanks.01:40
pikeshawn___: umask option didnt work?01:40
shawn___no01:40
Snake__wsjunior: no prob01:41
pikeshawn___: well i havent had an ntfs partition in a while but that should work 'sudo mount -o /dev/hda1 /mnt/directory'01:41
pikeshawn___: well i havent had an ntfs partition in a while but that should work 'sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/directory'01:42
ArdarandirGute Nacht01:43
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lars_gHi all.01:43
lars_gIs 3.5.2 a known breezy killer?01:43
lars_gI mean, I installed it, it seemed to work fine01:44
lars_gI just now moved the machine and I have a very odd behaviour.01:44
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lars_gif I use kdm, the machine freezes with no error or trace01:44
lars_gOr, if I use gdm, and then enter kde, it freezes01:44
Snake__lars_g: if you use the cutting edge, expect to bleed, its diffrent results for everyong01:44
lars_gand sometimes just booting to gdm, it freezes after a short while (sometimes)01:44
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lars_gBut, at least I think it's not my driver (nvidia) because in rescue mode, I can do a startx and use it normally.01:45
lars_gSnake__: Perfect, I am not asking not to bleed. I am asking for help in bandaging it. yes?01:45
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shawn___pike: no luck01:45
Snake__lars_g: wish I could help, but I have no idea :(01:46
lars_gOk, thanks anyhow01:46
lars_gI'll see if I can dig something off my kernel logs, this is too odd01:46
lars_gI moved the machine around just now so I am affraid it be video card overheating, but then why does it work with startx in recovery mode? sigh01:46
lars_gI'll check a few logs01:46
pikeshawn___: what error are you getting?01:47
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shawn___bash: cd: /media/sda3: Permission denied01:47
shawn___not much01:47
knillwhy cant i install kdeveloper in breezy?01:48
pikeshawn___: and you did sudo umount /media/sda3 and then remounted with above commands?01:48
shawn___yay01:49
shawn___works now01:49
pike:)01:49
knillhi01:49
shawn___sorry linux just isn't my strong suit, we're barely scratching the surface in class but soon enough I'll know alot01:50
shawn___my college has a fairly strong appretiation for linux01:50
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pikeshawn___: np hope you enjoy kubuntu01:53
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knillwhat version of kdeveloper can i install in breezy?01:53
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jmarrerosomeone here kwons if I can intall xgl and compiz in  kubuntu dapper drake and it work nice, just like in gnome?01:54
wsjuniordoes anybody here with KDE 3.5.2 is able to run admin mode in kcontrol?01:56
Snake__jmarrero: I never got xgl to work in gnome :(01:56
jmarreroSnake__ and in kubuntu?01:56
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Snake__Never tried01:56
jmarreroIsee01:57
Snake__jmarrero: I would assume it would work just as easily but with compiz-kde instead of compiz-gnome (I think it is)01:57
jmarreronice thankx01:57
Snake__knill: whatever version is in the repos works best01:58
knillthe version in repose dont install01:58
knilltrying with a previous version01:59
wsjuniorjmarrero: http://triligon.org/triligon/blog/xgl_on_kubuntu01:59
jmarrerowsjunior now I love u!02:00
Snake__knill: Is this what you want? kdevelop302:01
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Snake__!info kdevelop302:01
ubotukdevelop3: (An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.2.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1053 kB, Installed size: 3500 kB02:01
pikecommon sound problems in kde under dapper? anyone else have a problem?02:02
Snake__pike: its dapper, do a bug search02:02
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RogueJediXAnyone here? I have a quick question. Just converted my windows partition from NTFS to FAT32 so I can write on it properly from my Linux partition. So now I just have to update /etc/fstab, right? Or is there more?02:05
Snake__RogueJediX: sounds bout right02:06
RogueJediXCool, thanks02:06
RogueJediXShould I change ntfs to fat or fat32?02:07
Snake__Hmmmmmm..02:07
Snake__I think...02:07
Snake__!fat02:07
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snake__02:07
Snake__Ehh not sure02:07
tristanmikeit gives you an option for either, I thought it was only fat32 for xp02:08
RogueJediXAh, nevermind. I just remembered seeing a list in the mount man pages02:08
Snake__RogueJediX: vfat I believe02:08
RogueJediXSnake__: Thanks again02:08
pikeok this is going to sound foolish but.. howto toggle between onboard ac97 and sblive? gnome has a gui for this but not sure under kde02:09
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knillyeah i want kdevelop302:12
Is_907is ntfs write support not included in kubuntu? (do i need to recompile my kernel or is there a module available somewhere for it?)02:12
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Snake__Is_907: No ntfs write support standard02:14
Snake__!ntfs02:14
ubotu[ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:14
tristanmikewrite support is sketchy and not reccommended02:14
Snake__Hmm...02:14
RogueJediXHow come fat32 write support works better anyway?02:15
Is_907tristanmike: i know... i've used it in gentoo and debian... i just really need it to work so i can fix my XP installation (have to copy  the ntldr file from the cd... my stupid programming course is windows-bound)02:15
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RogueJediXSnake__: It was vfat as you said, by the way02:15
darkmatter137hello02:15
Snake__RogueJediX: fat32 is open source, ntfs is propritety, so we need to break their code before we can use it02:15
RogueJediXSnake__: I thought fat32 was proprietary as well?02:16
Snake__RogueJediX: Well..not open source, but we know how fat32 works, information is avalible on that, NTFS is windows standard only02:16
RogueJediXSnake__: Ah, I see02:16
Snake__RogueJediX: and MS doesnt want to give it up02:16
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Is_907so is there an easier way to have ntfs write support in dapper? i'd rather not have to compile a new kernel right now02:17
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darkmatter137hey, does anyone know of any free linux drivers for belkin usb 802.11g adapters?02:17
RogueJediXSnake__: Isn't MS developing yet another proprietary filesystem for Vista?02:18
Snake__RogueJediX: yulp02:18
Snake__WinFS02:18
RogueJediXJoy. I think I'll stick with fat32 for now02:18
RogueJediXIncidentally, anyone know the max partition size fat32 supports?02:19
Snake__I believe 2tb?02:20
Snake__RogueJediX: in windows, only 32gigs02:20
Snake__RogueJediX: they locked it so that people would go to NTFS02:20
darkmatter137has anyone tried a linuxant driverloader?02:20
Snake__RogueJediX: yes the max size is 2 tb02:21
RogueJediXSnake__: Thanks. Because I remember trying to get a 100 GB partition formatted with fat32, but I never got the option02:21
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RogueJediXSnake__: Any way to unlock it?02:21
Snake__RogueJediX: in windows XP, the max size is 4gb02:21
Snake__oops02:21
Snake__I mean 3202:21
Snake__Max FILE size is 4 gigs02:21
Snake__http://opera.answers.com/fat3202:21
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Snake__RogueJediX: not that im aware of02:21
h3sp4wndarkmatter137: what model is it02:21
darkmatter137it is a Belkin FSD705002:22
darkmatter137which is 802.11g 54mbps USB02:22
darkmatter137and, its listen on the linuxant page02:22
darkmatter137but, im really a noob to linux, so i need to know how to install02:22
darkmatter137and if its free or not02:22
h3sp4wnhttp://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4302:22
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darkmatter137?02:23
darkmatter137whats that02:23
h3sp4wnthe name of the driver you need to use and a post telling you how to do it02:24
darkmatter137ok, thank you  :)02:24
darkmatter137I love it when I had easy questions, yesterday it was "MY COMPUTER WONT BOOT"02:25
darkmatter137have*02:25
darkmatter137not had02:25
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wsjuniorwow. my pc restart when i start kopete02:27
wsjuniorwith kde 3.5.202:27
wsjuniorodd02:27
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theineHi, is network-manager-kde available somewhere?02:28
wsjuniorya at Kcontrol02:28
wsjuniorbut i can't open it here with kde 3.5.202:29
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wsjuniortheine: alt+f2, type kcontrol, go to net, after net configuration02:30
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h3sp4wndarkmatter137: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` - before you start to try compiling it02:34
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darkmatter137?02:34
raphinkanybody with a ppc here?02:34
RogueJediXAm I missing something here? I've made sure multiverse and universe repos are uncommented and did apt-get update and yet when I search for mplayer all I get is mga-vid-source and mozilla-mplayer02:34
darkmatter137h3, what does that do?02:34
RogueJediX!mplayer02:35
ubotusomebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106102:35
jmarreroubuntu Breezy for i386 PCs with KDE 3.5.2 and KOffice 1.5 RC 1, created on 2006-03-26 this live cd is in english?02:35
h3sp4wndarkmatter137: installs the requirements that you need to build the kernel module02:35
theinewsjunior: are you quite sure that's a network-manager frontend?02:35
_wsjunioris anybody here having problems with kde 3.5.2 and kopete?02:36
darkmatter137how can it install something if i have no internet connection?02:36
Snake__RogueJediX: whta kind of PC are you on? i386?02:36
RogueJediXSnake__: Yes. AMD Duron02:36
darkmatter137i type that into the terminal?02:36
Snake__RogueJediX: sudo apt-get install mplayer-38602:36
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RogueJediXSnake__: Already tried that. No go.02:37
Snake__RogueJediX: pastebin your sources.list02:37
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h3sp4wndarkmatter137: Do you have the ubuntu cd in the machine - those files should be on that - you will have to get the tarball you download onto the machine by cd or floppy or usbkey or something02:37
theinemaybe i should rephrase... does anybody know where knetworkmanager is supposed to end up? it used to be avaliable at kubunty.no-ip.org, but is not anymore02:38
h3sp4wndarkmatter137: you must have some internet connection or else you wouldn't be on here02:38
darkmatter137im dual booting02:38
darkmatter137im on my winxp system02:38
darkmatter137darn, i really have no clue how to do any of this02:39
RogueJediXSnake__: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/63184702:39
darkmatter137im going to try to find an easier one02:39
epI just sucessfully built qt 4.1.2 from source.  Now I need to I extend my environment varibles.  The readme says I need to add a couple of lines to ".profile" but I don't think kubuntu uses this.02:40
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epHow do I do this (PATH=) so it works in all terminals including X terminals?02:40
theine_oops, sorry, network-manager-kde is of course available at kubunty.no-ip.org02:41
Snake__RogueJediX: 1 sec, checking02:41
RogueJediXSnake__: No rush02:41
Snake__RogueJediX: and you apt-get updated you said?02:42
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RogueJediXSnake__: Yes, two minutes or so ago02:42
Snake__RogueJediX: ...hmmm02:43
Snake__im not sure... ><02:43
Snake__sorry man02:43
RogueJediXSnake__: No prob. You already helped me with that whole fat32 things, so thanks for that02:43
RogueJediX*thing02:43
Snake__kik02:44
Snake__lol*02:44
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h3sp4wndarkmatter137: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846&highlight=rt2570 - that one might be easier for you to follow download the rt2570-1.1.0-b1.tar.gz to your windows partition and have the cd ready because you will need it for the packages you need02:47
darkmatter137im trying the linuxant one02:47
darkmatter137its only a trial, but i dun care02:47
darkmatter137if i really need it ill buy it or ask a friend to crack it02:48
darkmatter137if it works, im happy02:48
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wsjunioris anybody here running kde 3.5.2?02:59
wsjuniorwhen i open kopete the system freeze and i have to reboot...02:59
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LeeJunFanwsjunior: you have kopete open on start?03:02
yuriywsjunior: not happening to me03:03
LeeJunFanwsjunior: I had that problem, and opening kopete only after the desktop started fixed it. Or don't have kopete auto connect.03:03
wsjuniorLeeJunFan: i have auto connect03:04
wsjuniorLeeJunFan: i can't open it to unselect03:04
wsjuniorLeeJunFan: :(03:04
wsjuniori'll have to remove kopete config files..03:04
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wsjuniordone. lemme try now..03:05
LeeJunFanwsjunior: no, you didn't have to do that.03:06
LeeJunFanwsjunior: just change one line in kopeterc03:06
wsjuniori did03:06
wsjuniorworked03:06
wsjuniorodd.. i'd like to have autoconnect :/03:06
LeeJunFanwsjunior: do you have wireless?03:07
LeeJunFanwsjunior: wondering because I had a theory that it might have been due to timing of my wireless being configed while kopete was trying to connect.03:08
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_wsjuniordamn. i had to restart. not fixed.03:09
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_wsjuniornow it is. the problem was the spca5xx module. this module doesn't work i forgot. i dunno why it comes with kubuntu anyways..03:12
LeeJunFan_wsjunior: I had the hangs with .11 version of kubuntu but since I've been using .12 from svn it's fine. I also have spca5xx, but I have my own kernel too.03:14
wasp_emshello i am having a problem with kopete..the other person sees the foto i have in msn on windows and cannot see my foto in linux...also i cannot send files..any ideas?03:14
_wsjuniorwell.. u can't send image files through kopete. msn issue. not kopete fault.03:17
wasp_emsaha..but i cannot even send txt files03:18
wasp_emsif i run msn through wine might that work?03:18
_wsjuniorwasp_ems: to select ur photo to be showed u have to right click the butterfly/ proprieties/ user info/ and select the photo03:19
_wsjuniorwasp_ems: dunno... never tried.03:19
_wsjuniorwasp_ems: try aMSN u'll probablly like it.03:19
_wsjuniorwasp_ems: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/03:19
wasp_emscan i send image files with that?or is gaim better?03:19
_wsjuniorno, amsn seems with msn03:20
_wsjuniori don't like gaim by the way..03:20
wasp_emsok but image files can be sent?03:20
wasp_emsso do i download 32 or 64 bit?03:21
_wsjuniorwasp_ems: are u running a 64bit machine?03:22
wasp_emsno03:23
LeeJunFanwasp_ems:03:23
LeeJunFanoops. heh03:24
wasp_emsor i dont know actually03:24
wasp_ems:)03:24
LeeJunFanwasp_ems: if you didn't install amd64 version of kubuntu then you want 32 bit.03:24
wasp_emsok03:24
wasp_ems:)03:24
wasp_emsthanx03:24
wasp_emsone last question...do u know how i can make voipbuster run with wine?03:25
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_wsjuniorno, i don't.03:26
wasp_emsok thanx03:27
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wasp_emsi did it through adept if thats ok03:29
wsjuniorwasp_ems: ya. i was writing right now that u dont need to compile it just install using apt-get..03:30
wasp_emsok cool03:31
wsjuniorwasp_ems: this new version has webcam support, i dunno if the apt version has webcam support too..03:32
wasp_emsyeah i am looking at that now..so which do i download?ubuntu one, autopackage?03:34
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wasp_emsdoes anyone know which file to download?03:42
Kyralfor?03:43
wasp_emsamsn03:44
KyralICK03:44
Kyral!info amsn03:44
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB03:44
KyralIts in the Repos03:44
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Kyralsudo apt-get install amsn03:44
wasp_emsi did that03:44
wasp_emsi got it03:44
wasp_emsbut i want to get the update03:44
Kyraldunno then03:44
Kyral!info amsn dapper03:44
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.95-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 2233 kB, Installed size: 7852 kB03:44
Kyralthe new version is in Dapper03:45
admrlkopete also has webcam support03:45
wasp_emsyes but kopete does not support sending image files03:45
admrlyes it does03:45
Kyralwhats the difference between a "normal" file and an image file?03:45
admrlyou drag it into the window03:45
Kyralthey are the same thing03:45
admrltry dragging it into the window03:46
wasp_emsi tried it with kopete and it did not work and a guy here told me it does not suport it03:46
admrlwhat version are you using..?03:46
wasp_emsand i cannot find the wecam support either on kopete03:46
wasp_emsone sedc03:46
admrlwasp_ems: you need to upgrade 2 kde 3.5 for it03:47
wasp_emshow do i do that?03:47
admrlwell have you ever added a repo to your sources.list03:48
wasp_emsyes03:49
wasp_emsbut to tell you the truth the last time i tried i failed..when trying to do it manually..if i do it through adept i think it will be fine03:49
admrlhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php03:50
admrlhtis is for 3.503:50
admrlnot 3.5.1 or 3.5.203:50
admrlim using 3.5.203:50
admrlbut i dont think its gotten any more stable03:50
wasp_emsok thanx i will try it03:51
admrl:) yep03:51
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wasp_emsadmrl: then do i go through adept and upgrade?03:52
KyralHoly cow there are a lot of updates today03:54
Kyralin Dapper03:54
admrlupdate and upgrade03:55
admrli do it from the commandline03:55
wasp_emsok03:55
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wasp_emsadmrl: cool i did it..lets see now if it works:)03:57
admrl:) you hsould probably restart kde03:58
admrlso just logout and back in03:58
wasp_emsdo i just sign out and in again?03:58
wasp_emsok cool03:58
wasp_ems:)03:58
wasp_emsthanx03:58
admrlyep03:58
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wasp_emsadmrl: do i now have to update again for kopete to be updated?04:01
admrlwait you upgraded already didnt you..?04:02
wasp_emsyes04:02
admrli thought you must have a really fast internet connection to upgrade that fast04:02
admrlnot just update04:02
wasp_emsbut nothing seems to have change04:02
admrlyou upgraded04:02
wasp_emsi have 10mbit connection04:03
wasp_emsit didnt really have any updates just upgrade04:03
admrlhaha you need to update after you add the repo04:03
admrlthen upgrade04:04
wasp_emsi did that04:04
wasp_emsbut nothing really was updated from what i saw04:04
wasp_emsand i tried even now and there is nothing04:04
admrldeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main04:05
admrlthat line was added to your sources.list04:05
wasp_emsyep04:05
wasp_emsok were can i see what version i have already?04:06
_shaneis there a way in a script to put up a dialog asking a question and act on the answer in the script?04:06
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admrlopen up kate and check /etc/apt/sources.list04:06
wasp_emswhen i upgraded it asked me if i wanted to install or not04:07
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admrlyou said yes correct..?04:08
wasp_emsyep04:08
admrlyour using konversation i saw so click the help menu then click about kde or whatever04:08
admrlthat will tell you what version of kde your using04:09
wasp_ems3.4.304:09
wasp_ems:(04:09
admrlya..04:09
admrlyou didnt do it right04:09
admrlopen /etc/apt/sources.list in kate04:09
wasp_emsi did04:09
admrldid you see the line..?04:10
admrlthats not commented04:10
wasp_emsyes but it has next to what u wrote above breezy main04:10
wasp_emsand yes there is no #04:10
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wasp_emsany ideas?04:13
admrldeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main04:13
admrlit should look just like that04:13
admrlbut i just gotta call and must go for a bit brb04:13
wasp_emsdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main04:13
wasp_emsthats is what i have04:14
wasp_emsokz04:14
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wasp_emsok be back in a minute..loggin out and in to see04:24
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wasp_emsok im back04:31
wasp_emsadmrl: now i have 3.5.204:31
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wasp_emsadmrl: thanks allot it should work now04:34
wasp_emsdoes anyone know were i can find games and install them having them also in k menu?04:35
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wasp_emsadmrl: do u possibly know how i can install games or make wine work wih voipbuster?04:52
wasp_emsor anyone know how to setup dc++?04:52
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wasp_emsoh and for some reason i cannot see some video files i have..any solutions?04:53
jmarrerosomeone knows a nice website were I can download nice videos about linux or nice computher raleted movies?04:54
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robotgeekwasp_ems, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:17
wasp_emsrobotgeek: thnx05:19
wasp_emsrobotgeek: no that is not what i mean05:19
robotgeekwasp_ems: okay, what do you mean :)05:20
wasp_emsi mean that although i have the files i cannot see them in the folder they should be in..whereas in windows i can05:20
robotgeekwasp_ems: i am not following you. where are the files again?05:20
wasp_emsi have an external hard drive which i use in windows to store all the files i have...movies music etc...and i have a folder which contains some video files but in linux it seems to have only one file..not the video ones05:21
wasp_emsany ideas?05:22
robotgeekjmarrero: yes, to your question in #kubuntu-devel05:22
jmarrerorobotgeek : thankx05:23
robotgeekwasp_ems: what is the partition method?05:23
wasp_emsntfs05:23
jmarrerorobotgeek : u using dapper?05:23
robotgeekjmarrero: yes05:23
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jmarreroworking nice?05:23
robotgeekwasp_ems: i am not sure, you might want to read something on the wiki05:23
jmarrerobtw : my system is just a multimidia fun and c*ap doing machine by now05:24
robotgeekubotu: tell wasp_ems about ntfs05:24
robotgeekjmarrero: works fine05:24
jmarreroso no important stuff in it05:24
wasp_emsthanx but that is not the problem as i can see and play all the rest of my files05:24
jmarreronice thinking on installing via esppresso to see the new prosses05:24
robotgeekwasp_ems: okay, i have no clue :(05:24
wasp_emsthanx though:)05:24
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wasp_emsany ideas about games etc that i can download?05:25
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wasp_emsok question05:29
wasp_emsok i am so confused now05:31
robotgeekwasp_ems: ask05:32
wasp_emsi made a taskbar at the top of my desktop mac style which i cannot find where i made it from and anyway it has taken off my conquer the file, edit, insert etc and has put them there..how can i make them go back?05:32
robotgeekwasp_ems: there should be a "default" button near all those settings05:33
wasp_emsi just want that tskbar up there so i can have some applications not the file edit etx05:34
wasp_emsetc05:34
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robotgeekwasp_ems: right click on the taskbar, then configure panel05:35
Kyralhehe05:35
KyralI set KAlarm as my Alarm Clock05:35
wasp_emswell there is no configure there05:35
wasp_emsbut i found where i set it up from05:36
Kyralat 7:45 AM the computer is gonna play the KDE startup theme as loud as possible :P05:36
koshmy neighbors would complain if I did that05:36
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KyralWell, not as loud as possible05:37
wasp_emsok everything is back as normal.now is there any chance i can make another taskbar but which will only have what i put in it?05:37
regeyathe kde startup sound woudl do it for me...I hate that sound05:37
Kyrallol05:37
robotgeekwasp_ems: you acn pretty much controol everything, add another panel maybe05:37
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wasp_emsanyway i am going to bed...got a lecture tomorrow..goodnight and thanx for all the help05:38
robotgeekwasp_ems: cya later05:39
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wsjuniori'm with ugly fonts even with antialias.. does anybody knows what to do to get better fonts?05:39
Kyralhmmm05:39
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robotgeekKyral: someone had done that in #kubuntu-offtopic05:40
KyralI thought this was allowed to be offtopic....05:41
robotgeekit looked like 90% XP05:41
Kyrallol05:41
KyralI'd love to do that to my Linux friends05:41
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Kyral"WTF?! YOU CHANGED BACK TO XP?!"05:41
wsjuniorhttp://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2509/uglyfonts4lt.jpg05:42
wsjuniorsomeone could help me to get better font aspect?05:42
KyralI didn't look at the pic05:43
robotgeekwsjunior: not my strong area, sorry05:43
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robotgeek_root: not a good idea to be on irc as root05:45
KyralI think XChat flat out doesn't let you do it05:45
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geo-1nda ada org indonesia di sini ?05:46
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Kr4t05hrm05:54
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ubotujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia05:54
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fatejudgerso has the default Kubuntu Dapper theme been fixed yet?06:06
Kyralwhoa the Universal Taskbar is cool06:08
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arnI'm having an issue with adept updater06:13
arnit was running an update and seems to be stalled on Removing kdm06:13
fatejudgerarn: how long?06:13
arnShould I just let it go or kill it?06:13
arn15 minutes06:13
fatejudgerarn: you can kill it, you'll just have to apt-get -f install after06:14
arnThe app isn't frozen or anything06:14
arnI think I could just exit it - but didn't know how it would affect the update06:15
arnThen again, maybe not :)06:16
arnwhat does the -f install do?06:17
Kyralfix06:17
Kyralbasically06:17
arnKyral: then why the install option?06:18
Kyraluhh06:19
arnnot questioning you, just trying to learn06:19
Kyrallemme man apt-get for a second :P06:19
arnsince I was doing an update06:19
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arnupgrade sorry06:19
arnthose two terms still get me mixed around06:19
Kyral-f, --fix-broken Fix;  attempt  to  correct  a system with broken dependencies in place. This option, when used with install/remove, can omit  any packages  to permit APT to deduce a likely solution. Any Package that are specified must completely correct the problem. The  op tion is sometimes necessary when running APT for the first time;06:19
Kyral APT itself doesnot allow broken package dependencies  to  exsist on a system. It is possible that a systems dependency structure can be so corrupt as to require manual intervention (which  usu ally  means  using dselect(8) or dpkg --remove to eliminate some of the offending packages). Use of this option together with  -m may  produce  an  error  in some situations. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Fix-Broken.06:19
Kyralsorry for the paste06:19
arnk, gonna try it06:20
arnE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.06:21
arndoesn't sound good06:21
robotgeekarn: just do what apt-get/dpkg tells you, you'll be fine06:22
arnI did06:22
arnand it ws06:22
arnwas06:22
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arnapt-get -f install didn't do anything06:23
arngonna try an apt-get upgrade06:23
arnhow come apt-get shows a different number of packages to be upgraded than adept did?06:24
arnthought they looked at the same repositories06:24
arnadept showed 92 and apt-get 7806:24
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frank23arn adept is probably doing a dist-upgrade and apt-get just an upgrade06:27
frank23arn dist-upgrade is usually ok. the synaptic "smart upgrade" is a dist-upgrade06:28
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ports-hey06:34
ports-has anyone installed ms office on kubuntu?06:35
me2winno06:35
ports-lol why06:35
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me2winit comes default with open office06:35
me2winand if you dont like open office06:35
me2winKOffice is really really nice06:35
fatejudgerKOffice is the best06:35
Kaiser_Sleepsyou need crossover office to be able to use mso06:36
fatejudgerports-: if there is something that is mission-critical that you absolutely need MS Office for, there are ways of install it06:36
fatejudgerports-: like Kaiser says, Crossover is the best way to do that06:36
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ports-k06:36
fatejudgerports-: Crossover costs money though06:36
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frank23ports-: crossover office / wine can run MS Office but I find Open Office great. Never tried Koffice06:36
ports-the only thing that i need Outlook06:36
fatejudgerports-: and it's recommented that people use KOffice or something to that effect06:36
ports-err is Outlook06:36
fatejudgerports-: try using Kontact06:36
ports-because im attached to that e-mail database06:36
arnumm - kinda got broken from my update06:37
fatejudgerports-: are you sure Kmail doesn't work with outlook database?06:37
fatejudgerports-: and Crossover doesn't work with Outlook06:37
arnapt-get tells me that 58 packages were held back from the upgrade06:37
ports-i havent tried kmail06:37
arnnow kde doesn't work06:37
frank23arn adept is probably doing a dist-upgrade and apt-get just an upgrade06:37
frank23arn dist-upgrade is usually ok. the synaptic "smart upgrade" is a dist-upgrade06:37
arnnew problem now though frank2306:38
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ports-Hobbsee:  i got my wireless working06:38
ports-it was an issue with dhclient....06:38
ports-it was seeing that my router existed... but it wasnt accepting DHCP from it06:38
Hobbseehey06:38
Hobbseeah right06:38
Hobbseeheh great06:38
arnmany of the packages apt-get is holding back are kde packages06:38
arnI'm figuring that's a good portion of my problem06:39
arnnot sure how to fix though06:39
arnthought about doing a --force-yes but wasn't sure if there was a better/easier way to remedy this06:39
ports-Hobbsee:  now to start running kismet and stealing wifi... on campus.. lol06:39
Hobbseeports-: breezy, or dapper?  i've forgotten06:40
ports-breezy06:40
ports-is dapper 6.0 ?06:40
arnany one have any suggestions before I break things more? :)06:40
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Hobbseeports-: 6.06, yeah06:41
Hobbseeports-: hmmm...yeah, not sure what the best program is to use for that06:41
ports-Hobbsee:  ah.. i was readin the kubuntu site a few weeks back and some people had trouble with Dapper.. so i just got Breezy06:41
Hobbseeah ok06:41
dyrneok this is irritating i have to reset amixer settings everytime i log into kde in dapper or have no sound06:42
dyrneits a lot to type..06:42
crimsunnot really.06:43
dyrneah youre everywhere!06:43
dyrne:)06:44
crimsunset your mixer settings as you like, then: sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo alsactl store06:44
crimsunit should work fine henceforth06:44
dyrneok ill give it a try thx06:44
crimsunif it doesn't, please file a bug on malone against the alsa-utils package06:44
dyrneok06:45
wsjuniorhey, i'd like to have that home icon at kicker, how to do that?06:45
ports-oh thank god~06:45
wsjuniori want a filemanager like in original kde06:45
wsjuniordoes anybody knows how to do that?06:47
arnoriginal kde?06:48
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arnlike kde2 or something?06:48
wsjuniorlike kde 3 without mods06:48
wsjuniordo u know that house icon at kicker?06:48
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wsjuniori want that icon with that link06:49
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arncrap, still broken06:51
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ports-fatejudger:  hey06:51
fatejudgerports-: yes?06:51
WordHi, is there a history of Gaim causing Kubuntu to crash? there seems to be a pattern with my use of Gaim and Kubuntu locking up..06:52
ports-fatejudger:  Kmail is an extra app... beyond what Kontact does right?06:52
arnok, totally just broke kde06:52
arncan't start kde06:52
arncan login to failsafe is all06:52
fatejudgerports-: Kmail is part of the Kontact suite of applications I believe06:52
frank23wsjunior: you have konqueror look like in other distros?06:53
ports-fatejudger:  ok... it showed up as an upgradeable component in Adept06:53
wsjuniorfrank23: yes, i want06:54
wsjuniorjust the filemanager06:54
fatejudgerWord: you might want to try Kopete06:54
fatejudgerWord: it's a native KDE app just like Gaim06:54
fatejudgerWord: quite a bit nicer looking IMO06:54
ports-Word Kopete crashes in Breezy as soon as you get signed on...06:55
frank23wsjunior: I'm not sure how to do it but you need to choose the default profile.  kubuntu uses profiles that are different from the kde default06:55
WordOk, I'll restart with a new session so gaim doesn't open up and see if while using Kopete there isn't a problem. Hopefully I'll be coming back using the IRC in Kbuutnu. :D06:55
ports-Word: but if you install Gaim from Adept on Breezy it works fine06:55
Hobbseeports-: which version of kopete?06:55
WordOh?06:55
fatejudgerports-: Koepte shouldn't crash06:55
fatejudger*Kopete06:55
ports-it dies06:55
ports-on me06:55
Hobbseewhich versoin?06:55
fatejudgerports-: that's not normal06:55
WordWhat IS normal? :P06:56
ports-4.3.4.306:56
arnrebooting - not holding out much hope06:56
fatejudgerWord: I've used Kopete since Breezy06:56
fatejudgerWord: it works great06:56
fatejudgerWord: never crashes06:56
Hobbseeports-: ah ok06:56
ports-fatejudger:  apparently iti s... im running the Kopete off of the Breezy install cd06:56
fatejudgerports-: then upgrade to the newer version of KDE06:56
WordAlright, I'll see how this goes be back in a few.06:56
ports-k06:56
fatejudgerports-: they have KDE 3.5.2 out now06:56
ports-whats new in the "new" kde?06:56
fatejudgerports-: bug fixes and upgrades06:57
ports-k06:57
fatejudgerports-: KHTML is much faster06:57
fatejudgerports-: performance things06:57
fatejudgerports-: it's a great upgrade06:57
fatejudgerports-: UI changes06:57
Hobbseeyeah, kde 3.4.3 would never connect kopete for me - not sure why06:57
ports-k06:58
fatejudger3.4.3 was crappy06:58
fatejudgerwell06:58
Hobbseehavent used it for ages though, so...06:58
fatejudgerbuggy06:58
ports-where do i get the new KDE06:58
fatejudgerports-: www.kubuntu.org06:58
ports-i see a lot of extra packages on Adept i dont need06:58
bimberi!kde3.506:59
ubotuTo upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".06:59
frank23ports-: I had no problems with kde 3.5.1 but there is a problem with kde 3.5.2: you can't change resolution with kde.  You might want to use kde 3.5.1 instead of the latest06:59
ports-k06:59
ports-next question06:59
ports-on Kubuntu.org there is supposed to be an html bar that goes across the top06:59
ports-in Konuerer.. i only see a text list.... thats bad... what component am i missing?07:00
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solohello, anyone can help to configure my wireless?07:02
Hobbsee!wifi07:02
uboturumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto07:02
soloI checked there07:02
soloas my wireless card had no driver for linux07:03
ports-solo you might be able to use ndiswrapper07:03
soloI used ndiswrapper to wrap my windows driver07:03
soloand now ndiswrapper tell me there is a module sis163u installed07:04
arnand you did a modprobe ndiswrapper?07:04
solothen I depmod -a07:04
soloand modprobe07:04
ports-frank23:  what do i need to download?07:05
soloI can even see wlan0 using iwconfig07:05
frank23solo: that's good. the hardware part seems to be working07:05
frank23ports-: for what? kde 3.5.1?07:06
ports-yeah07:06
soloyeah, then I cant do dhclient wlan007:06
frank23!kde3.5.107:06
ubotufrank23: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:06
ports-solo and whats "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" get07:06
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ports-!kde07:06
ubotukde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:06
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wordHmm...07:07
wordwell it seems that Gaim wasn't the problem07:07
frank23ports-: go here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php07:07
wordI turned it off logged out to save it in the session went back in and when i started flipping through the K menu it crashed.07:08
ports-Word ah07:08
frank23ports-: the resolution thing in kde 3.5.2 is annoying but 3.5.1 worked perfectly for me07:08
solofrank23: how to configure /etc/network/interfaces  properly?07:08
wordIs there any reason that navigating the K menu should cause a problem?07:08
frank23solo: I just used the system settings network config tool07:09
wordAlso, I shut down Akregator just to be safe aand it seems that I don't have a problem anymore :-/ Could it have been that?07:09
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soloI cant use root on that tool?07:10
solodont let me change any thing07:10
wordfatefudger left >< the only one who knew a lot ><07:10
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frank23solo: you mean go to administrator doesnt work?07:11
wordYay, fatejudger um, has Akregator been known to cause problems when navigating the K menu?07:11
wordBecause shutting down Gaim didn't seem to have an effect but shutting down akregator looks like it fixed the crashing problem07:12
fatejudgerword: don't know07:12
solotell you what I dont even have adminisrator to choose from07:12
fatejudgerword: I use the latest KDE in Dapper, so it might be different for you07:12
wordTheres an update for Akregator lol...that might fix it ;)07:12
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frank23solo: you system-settings->Network Config-> you dont see administrator mode on the bottom?07:12
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soloif you mean settings, yes, i cant modify network setting07:13
wordHow stable is Dapper right now fatejudger?07:13
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fatejudgerword: just as stable as Breezy IMO07:13
me2winword: pretty stable07:13
fatejudgerword: maybe even more07:13
frank23solo: can you activate administrator mode?07:13
fatejudgerthings WILL break every so often though07:14
me2winfatejudger: my kdesu konqueror finally works :P07:14
fatejudgerconfig files get get reset07:14
fatejudgerme2win: lol07:14
fatejudgerme2win: that's worked for weeks for me07:14
me2winfatejudger: yeh i know07:14
me2winUberUser: tell fatejudger about porterhouse steaks07:14
wordIs Konquerer upgraded to support ajax etc. in Dapper?07:14
me2winubotu: : tell fatejudger about porterhouse steaks07:14
me2winlol07:14
fatejudgerit doesn't work that way07:14
fatejudgeryou'd have to say07:15
robotgeekword: it works even in breezy07:15
fatejudgerporterhousesteaks is such and such07:15
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wordReally? What functionality is it missing for google then? o.O07:15
me2winfatejudger: I know, I was just telling ubotu to tell you about them even though i KNOW ubotu doesnt know about them07:15
wordGmail*07:15
robotgeekword: gmail, try using with safari browser identification07:16
wordActually, it's probably more that Google doesn't have it on it's list of browsers that support it's scripting so it defaults to the html version...07:16
fatejudgerrobotgeek: firefox07:16
me2winfirefox FTW07:16
fatejudgerrobotgeek: safari identification doesn't work07:16
robotgeekfatejudger: he is on breezy07:16
fatejudgerrobotgeek: I know07:16
robotgeekhttp://mail.google.com/mail/?nocherowser or use that :)07:16
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robotgeekhttp://mail.google.com/mail/?nocheckbrowser07:17
ports-frank23:  ok i added the new repos07:17
wordThe second link makes more sense lol ;)07:17
cptn_morganhow do i check what version of KDE i'm running?07:17
frank23ports-: you can use adept to do the upgrade then.07:18
robotgeeki think i found a bug in screen :)07:18
frank23cptn_morgan: any help->about kde07:18
ports-frank23:  what packages do i get07:18
frank23ports-: just do "full upgrade" then check preview upgrade to make sure it makes sense07:18
ports-bah07:19
ports-too much to look through07:19
ports-Full Upgrade and wish me luck07:19
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wordlol, i was going through and individually clicking them and i g uess i accidently installed 3 new ones too heh07:20
ports-well that didnt work07:20
wordcommit changes then07:20
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_solohello, frank23 are you still there?07:20
frank23ports-: just as long as you don't uninstall your whole system. people have done that with adept by mistake because they didn't check the preview changes07:21
frank23_solo: not for long...07:21
ports-lol07:21
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_soloso, I tried to setup in the tool07:21
ports-frank23:  uninstall it all?07:21
_solobut still I cant get any wireless detected07:22
wordHa, using the partitioner was such a pain on 2 hours sleep...the 10 minutes or so would between actions would just fly by and before I knew it I had to go to school ><07:22
cptn_morganhow do i upgrade to KDE 3.5?07:22
frank23cptn_morgan: just ask your questions in the main channel07:22
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_soloand also tried KwifiManager to search07:22
ports-this is gunna take forever07:23
ports-im getting a lot of updates for breezy07:23
wordWhat are you on dial up?07:23
frank23ports-: yeah some package with strange dependancies remove kdelibs for example and they don't notice07:23
frank23ports-: I hope you have a good connection ;)07:23
frank23good night all07:23
wordG07:23
ports-frank campus dorm07:23
wordG'nite*07:23
_soloGood night07:23
cptn_morganfrank, is there a specific spot i should ask about upgrading KDE?07:24
frank23cptn_morgan: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php or http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php07:24
_solocptn_morgan: dont you just do that by sudo apt-get install kde?07:24
cptn_morgan_solo i have no idea what you just said...07:25
_solosory, I mean you can upgrade kde by typing "sudo apt-get ..."07:26
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frank23cptn_morgan: _solo: that's not how to do it. installing  the kde package would install a whole lot of kde apps. many more than are in kubuntu by default07:27
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pradeeptorobotgeek: yo!07:32
robotgeekhey pradeepto , morning07:33
pradeeptorobotgeek: evening :)07:33
robotgeek:)07:33
pradeeptorobotgeek: you really need to work on those channel auto join thing :P07:34
robotgeekpradeepto: just quit my screen07:35
cptn_morganfrank07:35
pradeeptow00t the k3b horn!!!07:35
cptn_morgancan you talk to me in pm?07:35
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pradeeptorobotgeek: btw somebody was asking if easyubuntu works on kubuntu or not.07:37
pradeeptoyou were away at that time07:38
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robotgeekpradeepto: not yet. shortly.07:38
pradeeptomore power to you07:38
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cptn_morgani can upgrade all the KDE componants from Adept right?07:39
patrixheyyyy07:39
patrixafter 2 weeks dabbling with GNOME, I'm back to KDE! ;) ;) ;)07:39
patrixand its' good to be back ;)07:39
pradeeptopatrix: yo there07:39
pradeeptocptn_morgan: yes you can07:39
patrixalthough now I'll have a few issues to fix, such as kdm not logigng me in, konversation nto showing nick changes, etc07:40
patrixbut that's for later07:40
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_soloanyone can help me to get wireless??07:40
_soloI configured the ndiswrapper correctly07:41
cptn_morganall i have to do is follow this: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php right?07:41
_solobut using dhclient wlan0, I just cant find the network07:41
pradeeptocptn_morgan: yup07:42
robotgeek_solo: iwconfig scan wlan007:42
robotgeek_solo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto07:43
_soloI tried there07:43
_solosaid unrecognized request 'wlan0'07:43
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_solois that mean wlan is not setuped properly?07:44
cptn_morganwhen i tell adept which packages to upgrade, it says: BREAK (upgrade)07:44
robotgeek_solo: okay, iwconfig wlan0 scan07:44
robotgeekcptn_morgan: probably it means that it will break your system :)07:44
cptn_morganthat doesn't sound good :-\07:45
robotgeekcptn_morgan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:45
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pradeeptorobotgeek: what does "Install in OEM mode" mean?07:46
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robotgeekpradeepto: after installation, it asks to enter your details and stuff07:48
pradeeptolike what?07:49
robotgeekpradeepto: username, password and other details probably. so that vendor can install it for you, and you enter the rest07:49
awhi all... i just installed kubunto, and it's pretty nice... the only thing is that if i switch to ctrl-alt-f1, i get a never ending warning of: Incompatible medium installed. Failed reading Cd/Dvd capacity... there is no media in cddrive07:49
pradeeptohmmmm07:49
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awit si so bad that this 2gig 3700+ amd 64 is starting to really slow down now07:52
awanyone?07:54
Kyralzzz07:54
awk.. .i'll try again tomorrow... ty!07:56
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pradeeptoarn: ?08:08
arnyes08:08
pradeeptosuggest  me some cool host names08:08
arnlol08:09
pradeeptofor my new kubuntu box08:09
arnI named mine bochs08:09
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arnalright pradeepto - my sleep time now08:22
pradeeptoarn: good night buddy08:22
arngn08:22
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ports-hrm08:25
ports-i wonder if its done08:25
ports-hrm08:27
ports-i ran Adept and did a full upgrade for KDE08:27
ports-but About KDE still says 3.4.308:27
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pradeeptoports-: you didnot reboot did you?08:29
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ports-nope08:30
ports-i cant just take down KDE and reload it?08:30
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pradeeptoports-: reboot please :)08:31
ports-pradeepto:  lol ok08:31
ports-once KOffice is done i will08:32
ports-im really liking Adept08:32
pradeeptoports-: I hope you are installing KOffice 1.5RC108:32
ports-erm08:34
ports-whatevers on Adept08:34
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ankurpradeepto: it didnt work08:42
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ports-KDE still reports 3.4.308:42
pradeeptoports-: did it download anything in first place08:42
ports-lol08:42
ports-it spent half an hour downloading08:42
robotgeekports-: did you restart kde08:43
pradeeptorobotgeek: he rebooted back to08:43
pradeeptotoo08:43
ports-yes08:44
robotgeekhmm, weird08:44
pradeeptoI am guessing he didnot change the links in the sources.list perhaps08:44
ports-eh i did08:44
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pradeeptoports-: what did you change?08:45
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ports-i added in the repos from the announce page08:45
ports-ill try again08:47
pradeeptoports-: did you sudo apt-get update/ fetch updates after that08:47
ports-i added the deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main   to Adept08:48
pradeeptoand then08:48
ports-Fetch Updates, Full Upgrade.. Preview Changes... looked at all the packages for KDE it added...  Commit Changes08:48
pradeeptoports btw you might change that to kde35208:48
ports-ah someone told me to use 3.5.108:49
ports-they had issues with 3.5.208:49
pradeeptowhat issues?08:49
pradeeptoI am using 3.5.2? I think so is robotgeek08:49
pradeeptoand many others08:49
robotgeeki had one minor glitch, but it went away08:50
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wsjuniordoes anybody here run teamspeak on kubuntu?08:51
ports-hrm i cant find it now08:52
ports-but it was frank2308:52
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pradeeptonever mind that ports-08:52
ports-he had trouble with 3.5.2 so he reverted to 3.5.108:52
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morzelhi08:52
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ports-70% done downloading updates for KDE 3.5.108:52
ports-we'll see if it works this time08:52
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ports-pradeepto: whats different about the new version of Koffice?08:54
pradeeptothat depends which version you are using08:54
ports-k08:54
ports-!koffice08:54
ubotuKOffice is a free, integrated office suite for KDE. Included is word processing, spreadsheet, flowcharting, image manipulation applications and many more. See http://koffice.kde.org08:54
ports-great08:55
ports-konquerer wont launch08:55
ports-thank god i have firefox08:55
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ports-pradeepto:  ok Adept says its done08:58
ports-now do i just reboot08:58
robotgeekports-: just restart kde, no need to reboot08:59
ports-how do i do that08:59
pradeeptorobotgeek: I have seen it doesnot work that way.08:59
zaba_ports-: end session then start new08:59
robotgeekpradeepto: really, it worked for me?08:59
pradeeptoI had to rebook my laptop for everything to be *proper*09:00
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pradeeptoafter a dist-upgrade that is09:00
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robotgeekpradeepto: i don't think i've rebooted my laptop since i upgraded to kde 3.5.2 , rebooting is not a solution in linux09:01
kpaolopradeepto: this is my third time...09:01
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kpaolothis time i'm going to keep dapper save for almost a week...09:02
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kpaolowill i manage???09:02
pradeeptokpaolo: what? come again?09:03
kpaoloyeah09:03
kpaololast time (yesterday) i've installed the new fglrx drivers09:03
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kpaoloin spite i had the direct rendering yet..09:04
kpaoloso...as it usually does with me...X died again...09:04
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Red_Herringheh... fglrx sucks09:06
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ankurhey it worked09:06
pradeeptokpaolo: sorry dude cant be of much help on that09:06
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Red_Herringis it possible to OD on altoids?09:07
kpaolohiihihih...this time i feel lucky09:07
wsjuniorcould anybody help me with teamspeak? it's a voip program like skype but it uses oss. doesnt work with alsa or esound. it worked with ubuntu, but it isnt working with kubuntu and a don't know why. as i said it uses oss. i can hear people talkin but can't speak. does anybody knows anything about it? using mic to talk by oss?09:07
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Red_Herringwsjunior: teamspeak isnt for linux... or so i thought09:07
pradeeptoports-: good09:07
Red_Herringyou using WINE for it?09:07
wsjuniorno09:07
Red_Herringhmm...09:07
wsjuniorthere's a linux client09:07
wsjuniorand server too09:08
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Red_Herringwell, Ubuntu uses OSS whereas Kubuntu and KDE uses aRTs09:08
ports-pradeepto:  where do i access the startup script from09:08
Red_Herringso theres the problem09:08
wsjuniorhttp://www.goteamspeak.com/09:08
wsjuniori killed artsd and esd09:08
Red_Herringhrm09:08
wsjuniori can hear the people talking09:08
Red_Herringdid you configure your mic right?09:08
wsjuniorbut nobody can hear me09:08
Red_Herringlike i said09:08
wsjunioryes, the mic works with skype09:08
Red_Herringdid you configure your mic using KDE?09:08
Red_Herringhrm09:08
Red_Herringdid you compile it?09:09
wsjuniorthere's nothing to configure the mic. just plugged and it works.09:09
wsjuniorwhat?09:09
wsjuniorteamspeak?09:09
Red_Herringhrm...09:09
Red_Herringyea09:09
wsjuniorno i used the teamspeak installer09:10
ports-pradeepto:  where do i access the startup script from09:10
wsjuniorsee, it works with ubuntu. the same package, same installation.09:10
pradeeptowhat/which startup script09:10
Red_Herringwsjunior: i would look in their help forums, because it appears the problem is with teamspeak09:10
wsjuniori did.09:10
ports-pradeepto:  i want to add the commands to initialize ndiswrapper, and dhclient to boot09:11
wsjuniorit's a problem with some package to talk using oss09:11
wsjuniordunno which one09:11
Red_Herringhrm09:11
Red_Herringlemme check09:11
kpaolohey..am i the one who has the 3D Accell by default??? [pool] 09:12
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ports-pradeepto:  i want to add the commands to initialize ndiswrapper, and dhclient to boot09:13
|epineph|this is not fun.09:14
Red_Herringwsjunior: grrrr... this livecd sucks, sorry, i cant find any09:15
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Red_Herringwsjunior: come back later, im sure someone here knows, just not me09:18
wsjuniorRed_Herring: ok, thanks anyways.09:18
wsjuniori found this -> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Sound09:19
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Red_Herringwsjunior: wow... did you try it yet?09:21
pradeeptoports-: sorry mate I am not sure about that. please somebody else about that.09:22
wsjuniori'm reading it right now09:22
ports-you edit etc/modules09:22
pradeeptothanks so that was quiz? :P09:22
ports-no09:22
ports-i just found the answer09:22
pradeeptoheh ok09:23
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ankurit worked09:25
ports-just add the commands you want to run  to /etc/modules09:25
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pradeeptook09:26
srednaHello09:26
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pradeeptohello sredna09:27
srednaI have a problem with printing, when I try to add a printer I get an error message about a connection errer with the cups server09:27
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sredna(using dapper)09:27
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ports-sredna:  have you looked in te forums/09:31
srednaports-: No09:31
srednaLet me try that09:31
ports-because im new to Kubuntu too09:32
ports-and im findin the kubuntu/ubuntu forums really useful09:32
Red_Herringits a great place to go09:32
Red_Herringwe need to make it more accessable under kubuntu09:32
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srednaI'm not the biggest fan of web forumns09:34
srednaIt is very time consuming to pull informatino out of them09:34
ports-sredna:  not really09:35
ports-you need to learn how to use Google and Forum searches09:35
epinephrineok, bugger it09:35
epinephrineon the laptop gos kubuntu!09:35
epinephrinegoes too09:35
srednaports-: It's still a lot of reading to find a thread that is relevant, and even then it's not nessecarily a help09:37
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srednaLike here, something that looked relevant isn't09:39
ports-lol09:39
ports-sredna:  find it yourself09:39
srednaports-: The idea of this channel is that I can ask a question and someone might know an answer. So leave me alone if you don't09:40
ports-no one else answered.. i told you where to find help09:40
srednaBah09:40
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ports-lol09:41
pradeeptoports-: honestly that was't funny at all09:41
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ports-pradeepto: i have an odd sense of humor09:43
ports-i asked a question.  you didnt know the answer.09:43
ports-i didnt get mad at you.. i read the forums and found it09:43
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ports-sredna just wanted someone else to do the work09:43
pradeeptoports-: are you sure about that?09:44
ports-pradeepto:  ive been working in help channels for 10 years...09:44
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pradeeptohave you ever considered that fact that he might have had a genuine case and was not a foobar guy asking for help09:45
ports-i didnt say fubar09:45
pradeeptoperhaps could have been a core kde developer who might have had some real issues09:45
robotgeekports-: if you can help09:45
pradeeptoguess what ports- he was a core kde developer09:46
ports-http://www.mepis.org/node/8963 <- similar issue.09:46
ports-his issue was with the hosts file being damaged.09:46
robotgeekports-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules09:48
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ports-pradeepto:  a core developer eh.09:51
pradeeptoports-: any reason you dont believe that09:55
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danimodoes anyone know the archive that references network-manager-kde? (aka knetworkmanager)09:56
robotgeekports-: look at his host mask09:57
pradeeptoyo! danimo09:57
ports-pradeepto:  it doesnt make a difference if i do or dont09:57
robotgeekdanimo: kubuntu.no-ip.org ?09:57
pradeeptoports-: I will not debate with you on this topic, as robotgeek pointed out look at his host mask09:57
robotgeekports-: anyways, please refrain from being rude with people09:58
danimorobotgeek: just found it, tnx09:58
danimoheya pradeepto09:58
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ports-lol ok10:00
pradeeptoports-: I will save you the trouble of doing a search, anders is a kate developer :)10:01
pradeeptodanimo: how is it going?10:01
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danimopradeepto: quite good :)10:02
ports-Anders Lund10:02
pradeeptoyes10:02
ports-pradeepto looked it up a while ago :)10:02
pradeeptogood to know ports-10:02
ports-thats why i said it didnt matter. whether i believe in reality or not doesnt mean that getting hit with a baseball bat wouldnt hurt.10:02
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pradeeptothat was too long a sentence for me to comprehend :(10:04
ports-lol10:05
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ports-kids these days,,,, short attentions spans :P10:05
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ports-hrm i knew i forgot to install something. gcc :)10:09
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pradeeptoshort attentions spans eh? :P10:10
ports-checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables10:11
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robotgeekports-: build-essential10:11
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ports-build-essential?10:16
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ports-yikes10:18
ports-ive sent a lot of time on this tonight10:18
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simian__is there a program for kde to convert ogg to mp310:26
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simian__because my wifes just bought me an mp3 player and it can't play ogg :(10:26
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robotgeeksimian__: should be possible, i am not sure if there is gui program10:28
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robotgeeksimian__: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1260810:30
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robotgeeksimian__: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2576610:31
simian__robotgeek: thanks i'll take a look10:31
FallenHitokirifor what exactly do i need skim / scim?10:31
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robotgeekFallenHitokiri: if you need to type non-latin characters10:31
FallenHitokirirobotgeek: that's everything?10:31
robotgeekFallenHitokiri: i guess so :)10:32
mindspinHi, when I download large files or browse a network drive in Konqueror, my networking stops and randomly the whole system seem to "freeze" any ideas?10:32
FallenHitokirirobotgeek: thanks...10:33
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Sp4rKyhi10:33
Sp4rKyhow must i set the QTDIR var please ?10:34
simian__neither audiokonverter or pac are available on adept, that means i'll have to get my hands dirty10:34
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pradeeptoSp4rKy: export QTDIR="/path/to/qt"10:37
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pradeeptoassuming you are on bash10:37
pradeeptoor else use setenv10:37
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Sp4rKyok , i'm asking about the location, but i've found it :)10:41
Sp4rKythx10:41
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pulsar_Hallo!10:54
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pulsar_Anyone using KMail? It's awfully slow here. :(:10:56
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JakubSi'm using kmail, works ok for me11:10
kakalto!dapper11:11
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)11:11
pulsar_JakubS: Well, I think it's slow... It takes 2 minutes to fetch 40 mails from local Maildir.11:12
JakubShm,11:13
JakubSdefinitely slow11:13
JakubSit takes several seconds at most to go into local maildir containing 15,000 messages11:13
FallenHitokirii just setup dapper with kmail and 6 imap-accounts. works really fine and fast11:14
JakubSwith imap all stuff is stored on server, right?11:14
koshhmm I have never seen it that slow11:15
JakubSpulsar_: does it take all CPU while fetching messages11:15
JakubS?11:15
koshI have some maildir folders with 50K messages in them that only take a second or so to load up11:15
pulsar_Well, I think I found the problem... It's bogofilter.11:15
FallenHitokiriJakubS: yes11:16
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_nelsonneed help with kubuntu ???11:18
_nelsonneed help with kubuntu11:18
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pulsar__nelson: What is your problem?11:19
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fatejudgeris there a way to share directories between users?11:23
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_harmAny ideas how to enable transparency and other goodies on my windows?11:28
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pulsar__harm: Well, you need to enable Composite Extensions on the X-Server and then enable Transparency in KWin.11:29
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[Nige] hi all11:31
[Nige] I upgraded to dapper last night but have now lost my x display11:31
me2win[Nige] : it was a bad dist-upgrade, many of us lost machines to it11:32
[Nige] ahh any way to fix?11:32
[Nige] or do I have to rebuild?11:32
me2win[Nige] : I had to reinstall completely, but I am not sure about other people11:33
_harmpulsar i tried doing that but now i get two errors at startup saying it crashed and quit11:33
me2winyou may want to check in #ubuntu11:33
pulsar__harm: What graphics driver do you use? ATI cards are known to work bad with composite extensions.11:33
_nelsonI need to change the layout of my keyboard to US with dead keys, how can I do that ???11:33
_harmpulsar ATI :S11:34
[Nige] my ati works okay11:35
_harmpulsar should i update the drivers for my card?11:35
[Nige] untill i want to install things11:35
[Nige] or update the drivers11:35
[Nige] :)11:35
pulsar__harm: Well, I think you have to live without transparency so far. :)11:36
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pulsar_Currently, ATI drivers only support *either* composite or 3d acceleration.11:36
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_harmpulsar =X o well its not that great *cries*11:36
pulsar_And they support composite quite badly. :)11:36
pulsar__harm: If you need some really cool eye candy, look out for Xgl.11:37
_nelsonI need to change the layout of my keyboard to US with dead keys, how can I do that ???11:37
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_harmpulsar well i just like pretty things :P11:37
_nelsonI need to change the layout of my keyboard to US with dead keys, how can I do that ???11:38
pulsar__nelson: There is a "intl"-Variant which seems to do that.11:39
pulsar__harm: Xgl works quite well here on my ATI card, but it doesn't work quite well with KDE. :/11:39
_harmpulsar .. i have everything that doesnt work well :P11:40
_harmpulsar but dang i (L) KDE .. gnome is like not fun for me.. ad konqeurer is awsome and konversation is nice and yah iam happy11:41
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pulsar__harm: Then get a nvidia card. ;-p11:41
_harmpulsar since when do people who run linux have cash in overflow.. i have a radeon 9200 which i traded for a stolen bike11:42
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pulsar_lol11:43
pulsar_Live with it. Or wait for better Xgl support.11:44
pulsar_There's a nice live cd out there. Maybe you want to have a look at that. :) It's called Kororaa.11:45
_harmwell i have a small linux ToDo list i wanne finsh: right now iam at MSN+Webcam11:47
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_harmand i just finished bittorent11:47
pulsar_:)11:49
_harmcan u send a screensoht of ur desktop 2 me?11:50
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pulsar__harm: I neither use transparency nor Xgl. :)11:54
_harmthe only thing i miss about windows is my uber bittorent settup11:54
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robewaldhi, is there some way of sniffing the data that goes between a process and the serial port?11:57
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] Anjo[How many CDs is Kubuntu?12:15
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gsasha__Anjo: one, the rest you d/l12:16
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gsasha__robewald: yes, it's actually quite easy. You link the process with your own version of open, which, if that's /dev/ttyS*, will store its output to file.12:18
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gsasha__Anjo: er, what????12:26
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zaba_] Anjo[: Kubuntu comes with KDE12:27
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Kamping_Kaiser] Anjo[: Kubuntu uses KDE12:50
] Anjo[Cool.12:50
] Anjo[And Ubuntu Gnome?12:50
Kamping_Kaisercorrect12:51
wsjuniori'm trying to install mysql-server 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 but i'm getting MD5 incorret with every repositorie, what could be happening?12:52
Kamping_Kaiserwsjunior: which ones are you trying?12:52
wsjuniorhold on12:52
wsjuniorKamping_Kaiser: http://pastebin.com/63236312:53
wsjuniorKamping_Kaiser: i tried others but still get the same error12:54
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Kamping_Kaiserwsjunior: can you attach the output when you 'sudo apt-get update'? the actual md5 errors is what I'm after as well12:55
Kamping_Kaiser[hi raphink12:55
raphinkhi Kamping_Kaiser12:56
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wsjuniorKamping_Kaiser: http://pastebin.com/632370 ?12:58
Kamping_Kaiserthat looks right01:00
Kamping_Kaiser(not that i read br. )01:00
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wsjuniorya, it seems to be allright but i get md5sum error :/01:01
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Jrwagood morning all01:01
wsjuniormorning01:01
robewaldgsasha__: how do I do that?01:01
JrwaI've come because a problem is driving me crazy on my kubuntu dapper01:02
Kamping_Kaisergday Jrwa01:02
robewaldgsasha__: I don't have access to the binary01:02
robewaldgsasha__: no source I mean01:02
Kamping_Kaiserwsjunior: so you get md5 erros when installing?01:02
JrwaMy X server is using the 41% of my 1Gb Ram. Is there a known bug that's causing that?01:02
wsjuniorKamping_Kaiser: just with that package01:02
Kamping_Kaiserwsjunior: hm01:02
wsjuniorodd01:03
Kamping_KaiserJrwa: i havent seen that problem before that i can remember01:03
Jrwahere's my free and ps aux outputs, if it helps... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/63238001:03
JrwaI guess the X may use about the 15% only01:04
Jrwakde starts up with over 750 mb of ram used. then it grows slowly up to 920, and the pc freezes01:04
Kamping_KaiserJrwa: opening top, then using 'm' to sort by memeory useage would be better i expect01:04
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Kamping_Kaiserhm. 44%01:05
Kamping_KaiserJrwa: do you have swap?01:05
Jrwanope01:05
Kamping_Kaiserso when the memeory fills it crashes (perhaps)01:06
Jrwabut I thought that shouldn't make much trouble01:06
Jrwayeah, that's it.01:06
Kamping_KaiserJrwa: can you look in launchpad for a bug against this problem?01:06
gsasha__robewald: google for "vsound recorder". It's a program that captures sound I/O of a program with this trick. I used it nicely for Skype01:06
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JrwaKamping_Kaiser, I'm on it (sorry bout that :) )01:07
robewaldgsasha__: thanks01:07
Kamping_KaiserJrwa: np. good luck in your search ;)01:07
nlindbladyay!01:08
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nlindbladKaiser Chiefs01:08
v3nUshelloouwww01:09
Kamping_Kaiserrobewald: what do you want to do? record conversations, or data to serial?01:09
Kamping_Kaiserhi v3nUs01:09
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wsjuniorKamping_Kaiser: it worked with a .de rep. lol :)01:10
Kamping_Kaiser<GRIN> cool01:11
Kamping_Kaiser:)01:11
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robewaldKamping_Kaiser: record conversations01:11
JrwaKamping_Kaiser, there's an unconfirmed bug... just another guy with the same problem: over 440mb of ram used by xorg01:11
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Kamping_Kaiserrobewald: IIRC gizmo has an option, if your using sip01:12
JrwaI wonder if there's a way to install a working version of xorg01:12
Kamping_KaiserJrwa: add acomment, with some info about your system01:12
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Kamping_KaiserJrwa: and you can confirm it if you want01:13
robewaldKamping_Kaiser: no, sorry my mistake, data conversations on the serial port, like sent raw data and recieved raw data on the ttyS*01:13
Jrwaok that01:13
Kamping_Kaiserrobewald: ah ok.01:13
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Kamping_Kaiserbbl01:14
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v3nUshellow again!01:26
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v3nUssomebody pleeeeaaaasssseee answer me! :)01:27
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Kamping_Kaiserwhat did you say?01:28
Kamping_Kaiserlol01:28
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Kamping_Kaiserwb Hobbsee01:30
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Hobbseehey Kamping_Kaiser01:30
Kamping_Kaiser:)01:30
JrwaKamping_Kaiser, thanks for the help, I hope it get's fixed soon01:30
Jrwabye01:30
Kamping_Kaiserlater Jrwa01:31
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rikaiy'knwo, i think i'd be able to deal with kde more if it had all those different "configure *" menus in one dialog with tabs or something x.x01:31
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denHi - amaroK wont play a file - I installed gstream0.10-alsa - am runniung Dapper test 5 - am I missing something?  What needs to be done to get it to work?01:33
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Kamping_Kaiserden: what file?01:34
Kamping_Kaiserhi, btw01:34
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Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: hi :)01:34
Kamping_Kaiserhi Tm_T :)01:34
Tm_Tden: amarok in dapper doesn't have gst engine afaik01:35
Tm_T!mp301:35
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:35
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped01:35
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denKamping_Kaiser: ladeda.mp301:35
Kamping_Kaiserread the link Tm_T gave you01:36
Tm_THobbsee_away: nooo01:36
denThanks :)01:36
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Hobbsee_awayat 10.37pm!01:37
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Kamping_Kaiserlol Hobbsee_away01:37
Hobbsee_awayhehe01:37
Tm_THobbsee_away: yeah, go away when I come in... I know you're avoiding me!01:37
Hobbsee_awayi just got home from work01:37
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Hobbsee_awayTm_T: as always :P01:37
Tm_Tyou can't stand my charm ;)01:37
Kamping_Kaiserrofl01:38
Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: agree =)01:38
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Kamping_Kaiser:}01:38
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Kamping_Kaiserbblish01:39
Kamping_Kaiserin 40~01:39
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andrzejhi, why when j click on configuration in kopete, er crashed?01:43
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andrzej??01:45
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andrzej??01:46
v3nUshi, andrzej. :)01:48
andrzejhi01:48
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v3nUsi'm new here. Are u?01:49
andrzejtoo01:49
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v3nUscan i know where r u from? :)01:51
XVampireXWho?01:52
andrzejPoland01:52
XVampireXAye Aye Cptn01:52
nukyhi, how can i set up java applets to work in my konqueror? i have java installed, and i have also enabled it in the konqueror settings and provided a full path to java in the "Path to java executable" field.. but when i try to load a page with an applet, it doesn't do anything.. there isn't an error or anything like that.. the applet area just stays blank01:53
v3nUswaaaw, so far away!01:53
v3nUsi'm from indonesia (if u wanna know ;)01:54
XVampireXIs anyone here a Wine developer?01:55
andrzeji know wher is indonesia :)01:55
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XVampireXI know it's the wrong place to ask, but because I'm using kubuntu, just wanted to ask here because no one is available in the IRC channel :P01:55
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v3nUsand.... ur age? (sorry >_<)01:57
andrzej1601:57
nukyhmmm i unchecked the "Use KIO" optiona nd now it says, "Loadin Applet" in the applet area for aaaages.. but it doesn't load.. i'm trying the example applets from the sun java site http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/CardTest/example1.html any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks you01:57
v3nUswaw, still young!01:57
andrzejand you?01:58
andrzejkopete01:58
andrzejsoorry not here01:58
v3nUs1901:58
v3nUskopete??? What is that?01:59
arafatnuky: i have the same problem with konq and java... didn't manage to solve it yet....01:59
andrzejinstant messanger01:59
XVampireXThis is for people who want to paste more than 1 line: http://www.shorttext.com/default.aspx01:59
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denHi - What is the sound system in Kubuntu - & could I find this out by myself, from the system, without having to ask someone?  If so, how?  Ie, ALSA?  Other?01:59
v3nUsHellow XVampireX! :)01:59
nukyarafat: hmmm, it's so frustrating! i'll let you know if i find anything useful :)01:59
andrzejj must go bay02:00
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nukyden: if you go to K Menu -> Setting -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound Sytem, in the hardware tab, there's a list of sound systems used..02:00
dennuky: thx :)02:01
patrixwhich reminds me.. how do you select a default sound card in KDE ?02:01
patrixand kmix02:01
patrixit's always defaulting to my USB headset instad of my soundcard (for kmix), at least the sound comes out through my speakers though02:02
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_kentpoo?02:02
_kent/nick poo02:02
_kent:D02:03
_kenthelolo?02:03
_kentexit02:03
v3nUshelolo 2 kent!02:03
v3nUsawwwwwwwwww02:06
v3nUsgillllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa02:06
denWhat's up with libxine-extracodecs ?  the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats says it's needed, but in Adept it doesn't show up.  I'd using dapper, and have the universe repositories enabled.  ??02:06
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v3nUshi _Ace_!02:08
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v3nUshelllooooooooooooow, any body there02:09
v3nUs???????????????02:09
mindspincapslock trouble?02:10
v3nUsnope02:10
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Hobbseeden: do you have multiverse enabled as well?02:11
Hobbsee!tell den about multiverse02:11
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v3nUsbusyet dah02:14
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myndmelderanyone here?02:14
dark_suicmaybe02:15
mindspin188 Nicks02:15
Hobbseenope, no one is here02:16
myndmelderlol02:16
Hobbsee:P02:16
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mindspin!ask02:17
Hobbsee!+ask02:17
ubotumethinks ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html02:17
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mindspinthanks Hobbsee02:17
myndmelderAnyone care to help? A second hard drive question and the posts on the forum aren't helping...02:17
Hobbsee!+mount02:18
ubotumount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f02:18
myndmelderHey I'm new! And I don't like bothering people02:18
Hobbseethat help?02:18
Hobbseemyndmelder: not a problem - and you're not a bother - this is a support channel02:18
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denHobbsee: Thx, I'm starting to read the link about multiverse. But, do I need multiverse enabled?  If so, that wiki on Restricted formats is inclomplete, cause it doesn't say multiverse is necessary for Kubuntu Dapper, in order to get aramK to play mp3s.  So, does Kub Dap need multiverse enabled?02:18
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Hobbseeden: i dont know exactly what the page says, but yes, you will need multiverse02:19
kimokubuntu users can't use easyubuntu, right?02:19
Hobbseekimo: ask that in #easyubuntu02:19
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Hobbseeit may be #easy-ubuntu02:19
devianthihi02:19
Hobbseei dont remember - and i'm not sure of the current answer to that question02:19
Hobbseehey deviant02:19
kimoohh thnx02:19
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devianti just want to ask. why does ubuntu sets mount point to /media, instead of the good o' /mnt?02:20
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deviantlol02:20
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denHobbsee: can you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats section Non-Free Media > Mp3s, and see that it doesn't say multiverse needed, and if it is needed, would you please update that wiki to make it correctly say multiverse is neede also?02:21
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dipnlikdeviant: IIRC, deban uses /media02:22
dipnliks/deban/debian02:22
devianti see02:22
dipnlikdeviant: well, you can always make a link from /mnt to /media :)02:22
deviantthats.. cheating02:23
devianthaha02:23
dipnlikLOL02:23
Hobbseeden: added.02:23
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Hobbseeit does mention multiverse further up the page02:23
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deviantcrap.. i just installed kubuntu.. now have to dig for packages to install02:23
Hobbseedeviant: use adept.02:24
devianti know02:24
denHobbsee: thx :)02:24
devianti know.. but i still have to dig for stuff like the mp3 packages and win32codecs, etc etc02:25
dipnlikdeviant:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:25
dipnlikupdated some seconds ago :P02:25
denDo I need the source debs enabled in Adept if I don't plan on specifically getting or using any source code myself?02:26
mornfallwin32codecs? what's that for :)02:26
devianttx but i'm not that noob ^_^02:26
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Hobbseeden: no you dont, just comment them out02:26
devianterm.. i used to use gentoo... win32codecs are all the windows codec02:26
deviantwhat cha call em in ubuntu?02:27
mornfallHobbsee: it's disable in adept -- admittedly adept has a little ... spartan ... sources.list editor :)02:27
Hobbseeoh really?  i thought i got to try it out..02:27
mornfallwhy would anyone want all the windows codecs02:27
mornfallHobbsee: you need to use context menu :] 02:27
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Hobbseeright, whatever that is02:27
Blippe!w32codecs02:27
ubotuI guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:27
Blippedeviant, |02:28
Hobbseein regards to the context menu, that is02:28
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XVampireXhttp://digg.com/science/Virtual_Cell_Biology_may_help_create_pet_dragons,_gryphons,_and_unicorns02:29
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XVampireXPET DRAGON!!!!!02:31
XVampireXFly anywhere you want, LOL!02:31
devianthow do i throttle the bandwidth that apt-get sucks up? i dont think my room mate would be very amused when he gets lagged in his online game02:31
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LeeJunFandeviant: you may be able to set some QoS in your router.02:32
deviantman.. i dont think thats at all possible02:33
LeeJunFandeviant: only other thing then would probably be to setup QoS on your linux machine, you'd have to setup what's called an ingress policy.02:33
devianti'm sure there must be a way? just like wget and gentoo's portage can limit bandwidth?02:33
LeeJunFandeviant: http://lartc.org/02:34
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kimoguys, is there a way (like easyubuntu) to install all proprietary shit, but in kubuntu02:35
hugelmopfkimo: doesn't automatix do what you want?02:36
Blippekimo, you can use easyubuntu in kubuntu, you just need a few packages!02:36
Blippehugelmopf, we don't recommend automatix in this channel02:36
Blippe!automatix02:37
deviantlimit bandwidth? looks promising? http://www.techiesabode.com/show/show_tips_w.php?tip_id=7202:37
ubotuit has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.02:37
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hugelmopfhmmm... doesn't sound too good.02:37
kimoautomatix is frowned upon, and easyubuntu requires synaptic & gnome-terminal , duh!02:37
hugelmopfi didn't know that automatix is frowned upon.02:37
Blippe#easyubuntu does have a few pointers on using easyubuntu on kubuntu02:37
kimoyeah, like I said, I won't install gnome-terminal for it02:38
denThe Mar 10 Dapper Kubuntu is 6.05, correct?02:38
LeeJunFandeviant: yeah, that looks easier.02:38
Blippekimo, remove them afterwards then?02:38
Blippeden, not really02:39
Blippethe final release is 6.06, the cds released before that are called flights02:39
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Blippeden, and mars is the third month so if anything it should be 6.0302:40
denBlippe: What's the relationship between rev #'s and release date cd's?  http://www.ubuntu.com/developers says 6.04 is the latest version, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing shows Flight 5 is latest cd.  ??02:41
mornfallautomatix is frowned upon for good measure02:41
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denBlippe: Doesn't Flight cd # = 6.0#?02:42
Blippeden, the developers site is old, and should be updated. The new version they are working on is 6.06 (as it is released june 2006), and the flight 5 is the latest "beta" cd...02:42
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denBlippe: ok, so I have flight 5 cd, what is the Kubuntu version # of that?02:43
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hugelmopfden: it is flight 5 of version 6.06 (dapper)02:44
Blippeden, no the numbering on ubuntu is "yearnumber"."month released" for final versions, and flights for tests. The latest flight (flight 5) is a beta for version 6.06 (which at the point of it's release was supposed to be a 6.04, but has been delayed from april to june)02:44
hugelmopfflight 5 means something like alpha502:44
denhugelmopf: thx :)02:44
hugelmopfor even beta... blippe is right.02:44
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denBlippe: Ths :)02:45
hugelmopfbtw... for total confusion: for the next release, betas won't be called flight anymore, because the release might not be a bird... right?02:45
Blippeis a drake a bird?02:49
HobbseeBlippe: IIRC, it is02:49
Hobbseehugelmopf: yes.  the breezy ones were called colonies02:49
SkrotFFSdrake is a male duck02:50
SkrotFFSyet drapper is not a bird, is it?02:50
raphinkdrapper is an adjective02:50
raphinkjust as breezy02:50
raphinks/drapper/dapper/02:50
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Blippebreezy badger, dapper drake02:51
SkrotFFSyeah02:51
mornfalldapper =~ smart (looks)02:51
Blippewarty warthog02:51
Tm_Thullo02:51
denWhat is the easiest way to get common/important  multimedia/etc functions enabled in Kub?  I'd read & been told somethig about, I think, automatix, but I just saw the above comments.  ???02:51
mornfallpunk's dead02:51
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Blippeeasiest is to install easyubuntu and what is needed and then remove all of it again when it is all finished!02:51
raphinkBlippe: no please02:52
Blippebest: to it all by hand.02:52
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raphink!restrictedformats02:52
uboturumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats02:52
raphinkden: look there02:52
asranielhi there, anyone knows how to change the dpi settings in x.org? i cant find the doc about it02:52
raphinkplease don't use easyubuntu02:52
mornfallgod kills kittens every time you ask about important multimedia functions and you mean w32codecs02:52
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mornfallraphink: what's easyubuntu?02:53
raphinkmornfall: a set of scripts that install multiverse and plf stuff02:53
raphinkit's rather dirty02:53
mornfallanother one?02:53
raphinkbut used by a lot of people02:53
mornfalli thought automatix was the villain :)02:53
mornfalleither way02:53
raphinkwell automatix is a bitt more powerful than easyubuntu even02:53
raphink;)02:53
mornfallit basically means people give crap about freedom02:54
raphinkasraniel: i think you can set it in kdmrc02:54
mornfallthey want their games02:54
raphinkmornfall: yes02:54
Blippeit is a prog that installs all that stuff automatix does, but without breaking anything. It has been done since tons of people used automatix when they were to lazy to do the stuff themselves02:54
mornfall(they have enough bread to die of overeating)02:54
raphinkmost users are more concerned about free than open-source in FOSS02:54
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mornfallraphink: free beer :)02:54
raphinkBlippe: without breaking anything is your point02:54
mornfallraphink: or, for this matter, free entertainment02:54
raphinkit is not mine02:54
raphinkBlippe: it doesn't use apt-get properly to install, so the system loses track of what's installed02:55
raphinkit's not what I call clean02:55
raphinkmornfall: yep ;)02:55
Blipperaphink, no "easy"... he asked for easy...02:55
myndmeldergrrr... Sorry. I had to reboot... What was that webpage with the info on how to mount a second HD in Kubuntu?02:55
mornfallmankind is a bunch of losers :|02:56
raphinkmornfall: lol02:56
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mornfallseems that was a good way to silence the channel :)02:58
Hobbseemornfall: indeed..hehe02:58
Hobbsee!tell myndmelder about mount02:59
mornfallhush don't tell them, ignorance is bliss02:59
mornfall:] 02:59
Hobbsee:P02:59
myndmelder...03:00
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mornfallmyndmelder: sorry nothing personal03:00
denraphink: What are the specific reasons you said "please don't use easyubuntu"?  And, reading whe Restricted formats wiki, which you suggested, & I've been working on for an hour now, isn't too "easy".03:00
myndmelderNo prob, I got my answer.03:00
mornfallinstall gentoo :)03:00
raphinkhuhu03:00
mornfallthat was to den03:01
denmornfall: :(03:01
mornfalllet me see what's in restrictedformats03:01
denraphink: ??03:02
mornfallwell03:02
mornfallno matter people complain it's hard03:02
mornfallif someone spent the time devoted to writing that wikipage thinking03:02
raphinkthe wikipage is pretty easy to use imo03:03
raphinkit takes about 15minutes to type these stuff03:03
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raphinkall you have to do is copy and paste what is there03:03
mornfallthere could be a nice script that drops multiverse+restricted into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, apt-get update03:03
raphinkactually I'm pretty sure most people don't want to know that this is forbidden in their country, too03:03
mornfalland a metapackage that would depend on the nonfree things03:03
raphinkmornfall: this is basically what easyubuntu does imo03:04
mornfallraphink: someone said it doesn't use apt-get03:04
raphinkexcept iirc it doesn't "drop multiverse+restricted"03:04
raphinkbut it modifies apt-get instead03:04
raphinkmornfall: it doesn't use apt-get for everything03:04
raphinkit basically modifies your sourcees.list03:05
raphinkwithout parsing it03:05
raphinkjust replacing with another file03:05
raphinkthen apt-get update03:05
mornfallhehe03:05
raphinkinstall some stuff03:05
raphinkbut then w32codecs can't be installed with apt-get03:05
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raphinkexcept from plf03:05
mornfallwhat's plf03:05
raphinkso I think it downloads the .deb03:05
raphinkplf is the penguin liberation front03:05
mornfallwell, downloading deb and dpkg-ing it is nothing criminal03:05
raphinkhttp://plf.zarb.org/03:05
raphinkanyway03:06
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raphinkin dapper we can now have most restrictedformats with libxine-extracodecs03:06
mornfallraphink: even the wiki page suggests to get the deb and dpkg it03:07
raphinkexcept for wmv and such03:07
mornfallraphink: i don't see how following the wiki is less broken than executing a script that does it03:07
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Chameleon22does anyone know how to export mail from Evolution mail client into KMail?03:07
mornfallif you think the extra work will stop people from using restricted codecs, you are naive03:07
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raphinkwell from what I remember easyubuntu borks your sources.list03:07
mornfallraphink: that's so easy to fix...03:08
asranielHobbsee: works great with the default 96. i locked on the web and saw that my laptop screen has a dpi of 129. when i set that, everything is too big, with 96 its perfect :-)03:08
Hobbseehehe yay!03:08
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raphink:)03:08
raphinkasraniel: kubuntu dapper has 96 forced :)03:08
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mornfallraphink: actually, doing mkdir -p /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ; cat > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/restricted <<EOF\n the bad sources list lines\nEOFadept_batch --install foo bar baz packages would be fairly nice script03:09
mornfallraphink: (put kdesu and sudo at right places in it)03:09
raphinkhehe03:09
raphink;)03:09
mornfalland remove -- from --install03:10
Eazei have a problem installing kubuntu, it give a blank screen and hangs after the first prompt, i use a Asus m6n... ???03:10
raphinkRiddell suggested me to make a .desktop for adept_installer03:10
raphinkfor libxine-extracodecs03:10
raphinkso people could install mp3, etc.. support from it03:10
mornfallraphink: hmm?03:10
mornfallah right03:10
raphinkbt then the tags don't make it easy03:10
mornfallraphink: that's because ubuntu is a fork and does not support debtags03:11
raphinkmhm03:11
mornfallyou can distribute a debdiff i believe03:11
mornfallbut i'm not sure it's supported currently other than ~/.debtags/patch03:11
mornfall--> meeting03:12
mornfalllaters03:12
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hugelmopfChameleon22: look at kmailcvt03:14
hugelmopfChameleon22: it should give you options to import different message formats into kmail03:14
Chameleon22hugelmopf, thanks, about to check it out03:14
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hugelmopfChameleon22: once you have it installed, restart kontact (or kmail), and the Extras - Import Messages option should appear03:20
Chameleon22hugelmopf, ye importing now, thanks. Will see what happens :)03:21
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hugelmopfi am actually surprised that kmailcvt is not installed by default. importing messages should be a common task for a kubuntu beginner.03:21
Chameleon22i was suggested to do it vi an imapd which is a logical option, but your suggestion is the first choise so trying it first03:21
Chameleon22:)03:21
hugelmopfit is not even in main...03:22
denI am unable to get aramoK to play an mp3 file using the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats   I installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and libxine-extracodecs .   I was unable to install akode-mpeg because adept doesn't show it existing.  Adept does show libakode2 is installed, and libakode2-mpeg exists but isn't installed.  Should that be installed, and the wiki page updated?  Any suggestions, please?03:22
hugelmopfthe wiki page is probably about the stable version, breezy. are you talking about dapper?03:23
denhugelmopf: dapper flight 5 kubuntu03:23
tristanmike!dapper03:23
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)03:23
hugelmopfthen you are right about trying libakode2-mpeg, but do not change the wiki page. after all, breezy is the current version.03:24
tristanmikeit's best to join that ^^ channel for any dapper discussion03:24
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lukaszPLEASE HELP ME !03:24
dentristanmike: are you suggesting I ask that question in #ubuntu+?03:24
tristanmikeden: yes my friend, they would be better suited to help you :)03:24
lukasztell my how to instal program : GNU GADU ( www.gadu.gnu.pl03:25
denhugelmopf: actually that wiki page does have info for Dapper - those instructions seem to be indicating that they are complete instructions for dapper.03:25
hugelmopfi see.03:26
tristanmikebut since dapper is still in testing, it may, and most likely *will* break, so what worked to today, may not work tomorrow03:26
hugelmopflukasz: are you trying to connect to the gadu-gadu network? you can try kopete!03:27
tristanmikeand then it might work again the next day03:27
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lukaszi only want have a gg and tlen03:27
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lukaszand it does't metter how program i use . BUT I want have it03:28
denIs there anyone here who has used dapper flight & gotten mp3 playiing to work?03:28
lukaszi will back for 3 minutes03:28
Hobbseeden: yes, with installing libxine-extracodecs, and using the xine engine03:28
denHobbsee: what do I have to do to "use the xine engine"?03:29
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Hobbseeden: which program are you using to play mp3's?03:29
Scarslifei'm back ( i'm lukas)03:29
denHobbsee: aramoK03:30
Hobbseeden: settings, configure amarok, engines, xine engine03:30
hugelmopfScarslife: this guy seems to have packages for ubuntu breezy: http://nowak.eu.org/ubuntu03:30
hugelmopfi'm off for a bit03:30
Scarslifeok i will see03:30
HobbseeScarslife: please dont private message without permission first...03:30
Scarslifebut how to install this ?03:30
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Scarslifeok ok :P sorry :)03:31
Hobbseesoon, anyway03:31
Hobbseeand i dont know the answer to everything03:31
Scarsliferealy ;P ? :P03:32
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HobbseeScarslife: sure :P03:33
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vijayhi all, i want to install dapper test release, will it erase my old kubuntu settings? or just does the upgrade?03:33
Scarslifeok ok :P03:33
Hobbseevijay: dist-upgrade, or off a flight cd?03:33
vijaymeans my files and all those things03:33
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vijayHobbsee:flight cd03:34
Scarslifethan somone can tell me how to instal this program : www.gadu.gnu.pl ?03:35
denHobbsee: I checked the amarok settings, the engine is set to xine.  I have libxine-extracodecx installed.  when I click on a filename of an mp3 in amarok, & press play, no sound occurs, and a note pops up saying "playlist finished"  - Any idea how to get amarok to play mp3's???03:35
Scarslifeplease03:35
Hobbseeden: hmm...that's weird.03:35
dipnlikhi all. installed thunar on my machine, but it doesnt't run. the error msg is: Gtk-WARNING **: Theme file for kubuntu has no directories . any ideas?03:35
denHobbsee: Any suggestions?03:36
Chameleon22hugelmopf, kmailcvt.... worked great. Thanks a lot :)03:36
Hobbsee!tell Scarslife about compile03:36
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Hobbseenot currently...03:37
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Hobbseevijay: is your /home on a separate partitoin?03:37
vijayHobbsee:no03:39
Hobbseevijay: backup your /home, and then you'll be able to copy it over03:40
vijayHobbsee:everything is on my hdb403:40
vijayHobbsee:ok, what about my installed softwares?03:40
Hobbseeremove ~/.kde/*tmp*, ice authority, x authority, and DCOP*03:40
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Hobbseeseeing as those files dont copy over properly03:41
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Hobbseevijay: you'll have to reinstall it03:41
denIs there a "remote access" program that lets someone see the gui on a remote computer, and interact (kbd, mouse) with it, for kubuntu?03:41
vijayHobbsee:ok03:41
zaba_den: i'm interenting in this, too03:42
Hobbseeden: i believe that krdc and krfb do that03:42
zaba_Hobbsee: really?03:42
zaba_Hobbsee: can it connect to windows hosts?03:42
Hobbseeaccording to the descriptions on my kmenu, yes03:43
Hobbseegot no idea03:43
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MaterMaravillaehey guys03:50
MaterMaravillaedo any of you use vmware?03:51
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r-holdHi i am missing a default /etc/inetd.conf in all inetd-packages. Can anyone help?03:52
zaba_I'm using VMWARE03:54
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zaba_MaterMaravillae: i'm using vmware workstation 5.5.103:54
MaterMaravillaehi zaba_03:54
MaterMaravillaethx for answering03:55
MaterMaravillaemy question is simple03:55
MaterMaravillae:03:55
Hobbsee!+ask03:55
ubotuI guess ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html03:55
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MaterMaravillaeif i save a (for example) a recently installed ubuntu on vmware, can i run it on other computers (different hardware) using vmware?03:56
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zaba_yup03:56
MaterMaravillaereally?03:56
zaba_vmware EMULATES all hardware03:56
MaterMaravillaethat is awesome03:57
zaba_also the best is to run VM on different computer using (free) VMWare player03:57
ricardoae galera to com um problema aqui, acabei de instalar o kubuntu, mas no consigo fazer o apt funcionar direito, ele s t querendo procurar no cd, como eu fao pra liberar a procura na net?03:57
MaterMaravillaeso if i have a license for a program that can be installed only once (hipothetically), i can install it on vmware and share that saved OS in my other computers03:58
zaba_yup :-)03:58
MaterMaravillaeoh yes03:58
MaterMaravillaethank you zaba_03:58
MaterMaravillaethat was all03:58
MaterMaravillae:-DDD03:58
zaba_:-] 03:58
zaba_(: -^ D )03:58
MaterMaravillae8===D03:59
MaterMaravillae:P03:59
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zaba_( 8 -^ ]  )03:59
zaba_( B -^ S )03:59
mindspin!tell me ndiswrapper04:00
ricardosomeone can help me?04:03
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Sergi0ricardo, maybe someone can04:05
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ricardothx... i have some problem with apt04:08
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ricardoi tried to get mozilla from it , but it just search at the cd, and not at internet04:09
ricardoi tried to uncomment the lines in the sources list. but it was not enough04:09
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ricardohow can i change this04:10
Sergi0ricardo uncomment the cdrom line in sources.list, then 'sudo apt-get update', then u will be fine04:11
Sergi0ricardo the update will read all package info, else it will not use the new config file04:11
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ricardoi already uncommendted the source list, but i want to get things from teh internet, nor just from cd04:13
ricardoi get this error afeter doing that04:13
ricardo E: No foi possvel obter trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11      04:13
ricardo   Recurso temporariamente indisponvel) E: Impossvel criar lock no       04:13
ricardo   diretrio de listas04:13
Sergi0ricardo did u use the update?04:14
ricardo E: No foi possvel obter trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11      04:14
ricardo   Recurso temporariamente indisponvel) E: Impossvel criar lock no       04:14
ricardo   diretrio de listas04:14
ricardoyes04:14
Sergi0then just pres 'reload' in synaptic (probaly allready running?)04:14
ricardosorry im new in linux, and dont now all the names et04:15
ricardowhat is synapic?04:15
MaterMaravillaericardo: sistema>administrador experto04:17
MaterMaravillae(if u use kubuntu, synaptic is in Ubuntu)04:17
ricardoi use kubuntu04:18
MaterMaravillaei mean: kubuntu--->package manager (administrador experto) (Adept) ; ubuntu--->Synaptic04:18
ricardoi think adept is the kde version for synaptic, right?04:19
MaterMaravillaemore or less04:19
MaterMaravillaeif you rather speaking spanish, you can come to #kubuntu-es04:19
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ricardoi speak portuguese04:22
MaterMaravillaeoh ok04:22
ricardopero jo compreendo espanol04:22
MaterMaravillaewith that name, i thought you were spanish04:22
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ricardobrasilian04:23
MaterMaravillaeok04:23
ricardoo problema  que eu no consigo fazer o apt funcionar para internet04:24
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MaterMaravillaedid you uncomment the lines?04:25
dipnlikricardo: english only here, you can /join #ubuntu-br (ubuntu and kubuntu discussion there)04:25
ricardothx04:26
Riddell** flight 6 candidates for testing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060331/  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060331.1/04:26
ricardoyes i uncomment the line04:26
ricardobut i get this error when i try to uptade the source04:27
ricardo E: No foi possvel obter trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11      04:27
ricardo   Recurso temporariamente indisponvel) E: Impossvel criar lock no       04:27
ricardo   diretrio de listas04:27
Sergi0ricardo are u using sudo? like 'sudo apt-get update'04:28
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ricardoi tried everway04:28
trappistricardo: ps aux | grep apt04:29
Sergi0are u running other program that access the sources?04:29
ricardono04:29
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ricardoso, i typed this, mh retur was04:30
ricardoroot      9010 87.1  1.5   7200  4000 ?        R    10:39  42:49 apt-get install mozilla-browser04:31
ricardoroot      9012  0.0  0.5   4796  1484 ?        S    10:39   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/cdrom04:31
ricardoricardo   9068  0.0  4.7  25496 12152 ?        S    10:45   0:00 kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list04:31
ricardoricardo   9141  0.0  4.7  25496 12164 ?        S    10:49   0:00 kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list04:31
ricardoricardo   9151  0.0  4.7  25496 12164 ?        S    10:50   0:00 kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list04:31
ricardoricardo   9279  0.6  9.4  66816 24304 ?        S    10:55   0:13 konversation -caption Konversation -icon konversation -miniicon konversation04:31
ricardoricardo   9534  0.1  5.5  26912 14252 ?        S    11:18   0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept '-icon' 'adept' '-miniicon' 'adept' -caption "Adept"04:31
ricardoroot      9545  2.4 11.7  60992 30076 ?        Ss   11:18   0:15 adept -icon adept -miniicon adept -caption Adept04:31
ricardoricardo   9624  0.0  0.2   2952   756 pts/2    R+   11:29   0:00 grep apt04:31
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Tm_T!paste04:32
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.04:32
hugelmopfRiddell: wouldn't it make sense to include kmailcvt in main and kubuntu-desktop, so that users can import their emails into kontact?04:32
Sergi0ricardo :) 'sudo killall -9 apt && killall -9 adept'04:32
Riddellhugelmopf: where do I find it?04:33
hugelmopfit is in universe04:33
hugelmopfand when it is installed, the Extras -- Import Messages in kmail works04:33
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ricardoi did, but there was none opened!04:34
ricardowhats now? i need to chance some file at04:35
Sergi0ricardo? im not sure what the problem is now? just reboot to make sure nothing is using the sources, after reboot type the 'sudo apt-get update'04:36
ricardook04:37
ricardobe back soon04:37
Sergi0ricardo probaly it will work then04:37
hugelmopfRiddell: it's part of the official KDE pim module, so it should be reliable.04:40
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ricardoHey sergio, now its working04:41
Sergi0ricardo, any luck04:41
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Sergi0ricardo oh okay, good for you :)04:42
Sergi0i go now, bye04:42
ricardothx man04:42
ricardobey04:42
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ricardonow i have another problem, well i have some, but ill sa this one first, if anyone can help, ill be glad04:54
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Kamping_Kaiserricardo: ask, and people might be able to help04:55
ricardoi want to enable, acsess to my hd, but as user not only as root04:56
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ricardoi tried at system configuration, but it seems that, i havent put the right things in the options04:57
Kamping_Kaiserwhat did you put in?04:58
ricardoi put enable/disable for all user, but when i checked at konqueror, it appears only for root and group, but not for user04:59
Kamping_Kaiserricardo: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab04:59
ricardosure, just a moment04:59
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ricardo# /etc/fstab: static file system information.05:00
ricardo#05:00
ricardo# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>05:00
Kamping_Kaiserah not here!05:00
ricardoproc /proc proc defaults 0 005:00
Kamping_Kaiser:S05:01
ricardo/dev/hda4 / reiserfs notail,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser 0 105:01
ricardo/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,users 0 005:01
ricardo/dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat defaults,uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,users 0 005:01
ricardo/dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat defaults,uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,users 0 005:01
ricardo/dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 005:01
ricardo/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       005:01
ricardo/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       005:01
ricardo/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto ,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid,user 0 005:01
dipnlikricardo: he said pastebin!, not paste here!05:01
Kamping_Kaiser!mount05:02
ubotuwell, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f05:02
Kamping_Kaiser!tell ricardo about mount05:02
Kamping_Kaiser!tell ricardo about pastebin05:02
Tm_Toh well05:02
Kamping_Kaiserit happens05:02
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Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: +sh05:02
Kamping_Kaiserwhich is that?05:03
ricardosorry, i dont know irc, is the firt time i use this05:03
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Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: add s and h to your sentence05:05
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Kamping_Kaiser<grin>05:06
Kamping_Kaiseri thought you were refering to channel modes :$05:06
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xanax`hello05:24
xanax`where can I find a big flat kubuntu logo ?05:24
xanax`google images doesn't give me any (big ones)05:24
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_Allz-hello can someone help me please?05:36
_Allz-#window05:36
_Allz-#ubuntu05:37
_Allz-#windows05:37
Kaiser_Sleepscan someone help you?05:37
Kaiser_Sleepstry  /join05:37
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_Allz-please hellp me05:38
_Allz-i need help ;(05:38
Kaiser_Sleepsbut what *with*?05:39
taloschenhow can i run as root in kubuntu?05:39
Kaiser_Sleeps!tell taloschen about root05:39
_Allz-i am trying to let eggdrop bot work on window05:39
_Allz-can someone help me05:39
Kaiser_Sleepsdon't know anything about it05:39
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golanhi guys. I am facing a problem with kubuntu drapper that I don't really know if it is related to kubuntu or ubuntu (probably the base distribution) or any misconfiguration by my side.05:43
golanThe thing is that I am connecting a network via dhcp and, although I get a right IP address, the netmask assigned is 255.255.255.25505:44
golanwhich leaves me with no connection at all05:44
golanhave you faced this before? any hints?05:44
burepeAnyone know how to change ports in qtorrent?05:48
_intelanyone have current experience installing mythtv on kubuntu 5.10?05:50
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taloscheni wanna use something like "kdesu konqueror" to run Konqueror with root permmition, can anybody tell me the correct command?05:53
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_intelTawhen I used Debian it had something that allow anything ran from the sektop to be ran ass root05:54
trappisttaloschen: that sounds like the right command05:54
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taloschenbut it was wrong, because i cannot browse files05:55
taloschenit says "cannot ... klaucher"05:55
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taloschensomething like this, i cannot remember05:56
trappistif I do that I can browse root-owned, root-only-browsable directories05:57
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taloschen"cannot communicate with Klauncher"05:58
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ricardohey how can i set up X for root?06:01
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trappistricardo: don't do that06:03
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ricardowhy not?06:03
trappistricardo: not running around as root is what separates us, security-wise, from windows.  it's why there are no effective viruses for linux.06:03
BaosenI got Kubuntu 5.04, How do I update it to 5.10? I have read the FAQ but it only says for Ubuntu :)06:04
trappist!upgrade06:04
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.06:04
Baosentnx06:04
trappistBaosen: the instructions for ubuntu are the same as for kubuntu06:04
Baosenoh06:04
BaosenBut I thought, aren't the KDE design different with GNOME?06:04
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trappistthe upgrade instructions are the same06:05
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trappistit's the same os, just different package selections06:05
Baosenoh06:05
trappistif you install ubuntu and say apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and select kdm as your display manager and kde as your desktop, you're now running kubuntu06:06
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ricardoi know, i dont want to run as root al the time, is just to open some programs once in a while06:06
BaosenWhat about Vice Versa?06:07
GNU_Styleif im running kubuntu and aot-get gnome-desktop and use kdm am I in UBUNTU now?06:07
trappistricardo: use sudo or kdesu for that06:07
trappistGNU_Style: it's ubuntu-desktop.  the lines are a little blurry.06:07
trappistBaosen: vice versa is the same06:07
GNU_Styletrappist, why blurry? hardware support?06:08
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ricardohow can i kill a program?06:08
jpatrickkillall programname06:08
trappistno, it's just because kubuntu vs. ubuntu is mostly a matter of package selection.  you can mix and match by installing both and using gdm+kde or kdm+gnome, in which case you can call it whatever you like06:08
trappistif anybody is running kubuntu dapper, could you install (if you haven't already) eterm and try running Eterm -x06:10
trappiston my machine I get a warning and Eterm won't accept focus06:10
BaosenI got the 5.04 iso, any way to just convert it to 5.10 or do I need to DL the new one again? Tnx for your answers :)06:10
trappistBaosen: you can install it and dist-upgrade to 5.10 but you're better off getting a new iso06:10
trappistit'll take less time06:10
MetaMorfoziSBaosen: install it, and upgrade06:10
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trappistand probably less bandwidth06:11
MetaMorfoziSyes.06:11
Baosenoh tnx!06:11
ricardothx06:11
trappistand you'll avoid any upgrade-related bugs06:11
BaosenGonna get off now, gonna get off tnx for all your help :)06:11
MetaMorfoziSlike kde 3.4 to 3.5:D06:11
MetaMorfoziSit has many..:)06:11
InGpAoguys...can breezy be upgraded to KDE 3.5.2???06:12
MetaMorfoziS3.5.2 is out?06:12
MetaMorfoziSInGpAo:  yes...06:12
InGpAoyes..06:12
InGpAowow...06:12
MetaMorfoziSbut it's bogous.06:12
MetaMorfoziSso you need aware06:13
InGpAobogous?06:13
GNU_StyleMetaMorfoziS, what do you mean bogus?06:13
MetaMorfoziSi had many problem when i upgrade 3.4 to 3.5.106:13
MetaMorfoziSlike the keyboard mapping06:13
InGpAohave you made it @ init3??06:13
MetaMorfoziSand some settings...06:13
MetaMorfoziS3.5.2 is stable?06:14
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InGpAoyes06:14
InGpAobetter than 35106:14
MetaMorfoziSi'm upgrading06:15
MetaMorfoziSQt: 3.3.406:15
MetaMorfoziSKDE: 3.5.106:15
MetaMorfoziSkde-config: 1.006:15
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minnhi, i have a ubuntu boot problem can anyone help? I've installed kubuntu and have been using it for a while now, yesterday I tried to shut down but it won't so i held the power button till it turns off. now when i turn on it won't boot into ubuntu. it tries to get to the boot gui screen then jumps out again with a bunch of status report06:16
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GNU_StyleMetaMorfoziS, wats QT?06:17
jpatrickQ Toolkit06:17
MetaMorfoziS/kdeversion06:18
MetaMorfoziS(in konversation)06:18
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MetaMorfoziSre06:28
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MetaMorfoziShuh it needs to downlad 210mb06:28
MetaMorfoziSi hope it has many bugfixes:D06:29
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ubuntuhi06:36
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r3nzI just tried to install from a 6.04 install/live dvd (really common hardware, worked with other distributions), but failed after the initial menu with a tty error06:38
r3nzany ideas?06:38
r3nzI'm currently using the live mode06:38
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r3nztypical linuxoid behaviour06:42
r3nzbye06:42
jpatrickblah06:43
robotgeekhey jpatrick06:43
jpatrickhey robotgeek06:43
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MetaMorfoziSmy kde upgrade is at 62%!!!:) I'm waiting horribly it06:46
MetaMorfoziS:))06:46
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gouchiHi07:00
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gouchidon't know if the news has been reported07:00
gouchiulteo will use Kubuntu for beta test07:00
gouchiaccording to the post of GD : http://ulteo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2307:00
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gouchicommunity website : http://ulteo.org - Official website : http://www.ulteo.com/07:01
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FoodcomanMorning07:03
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MetaMorfoziSQt: 3.3.407:06
MetaMorfoziSKDE: 3.5.107:06
MetaMorfoziSkde-config: 1.007:06
MetaMorfoziSwhy 3.5.1?!!!!07:06
MetaMorfoziSi do a reboot.07:06
trappistdon't bother rebooting07:06
trappistor, reboot07:06
epinephrine"omg, something doesn't work, reboot!"07:07
epinephrine-07:07
epinephrinethe windiws way :p07:07
epinephrineugh.. windows07:07
trappistin all my years I've seen reboots of linux fix 2 things.  it creeped me out both times.07:08
epinephrineheh07:08
trappistone was a cups issue.  I forgot what the other one was.07:08
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oxezkernel upgrade :p07:10
Dasnipa`kernAl07:10
Dasnipa`kernel is like popping corn07:10
jtshawheh, I've crashed the kernal about a billion times.. seams like everytime I touch the code I crash it:)07:11
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vijayhi all, how to install MRTG?07:12
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trappistvijay: sudo apt-get install mrtg ?07:16
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vijaytrappist: installed but, unable to add devices to it07:20
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MetaMorfoziSQt: 3.3.407:22
MetaMorfoziSKDE: 3.5.207:22
MetaMorfoziSkde-config: 1.007:22
MetaMorfoziSwoho07:22
MetaMorfoziSyeah07:22
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Echohi07:33
EchoNeed help with a compiler for kub07:33
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EchoI tried to indatall xmms but I cant "make"07:34
epinephrineamarok. ;)07:34
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Echoanything, could somebody helpme please?07:34
robotgeekEcho: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:34
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slow-motionhallo07:36
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MacAnthonyisn't xmms in a ubuntu repository?07:39
pradeeptoah MacAnthony07:40
MacAnthonyhey pradeepto07:40
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MacAnthonybroke my kubuntu install last night07:40
pradeeptoMacAnthony: I got xmms default on my dapper07:40
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pradeeptosorry breezy07:40
MacAnthonynot my question, I was more refering to Echo's question07:40
apollo2011I just added the KDE 3.5.2 repos to my sources.list and did a smart upgrade in Synaptic and nothing happens. It should want to upgrade all of the kde packages...any ideas?07:41
MacAnthonytrying to install xmms from make install07:41
pradeeptooh sorry07:41
pradeeptoMacAnthony: btw I am running breezy with 3.5.2, till now happy with it.07:41
MacAnthonycool07:42
MacAnthonywhen I updated to 3.5.2 last night, kde wouldn't start :)07:42
pradeeptotry it07:42
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pradeeptohmmmm07:42
MacAnthonythat's whay I was doing in the #kde channel last night07:43
MacAnthonyor, this morning for you07:43
pradeeptook07:43
MacAnthonynever did get it to work07:43
MacAnthonyI think I might just start over since it's only been installed 2 days07:43
apollo2011are you on Breezy or Dapper? I am trying to do it on Dapper07:43
MacAnthonydapper - but this isn't a normal issue with dapper apollo201107:44
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MacAnthonyI'm the only one I know of :)07:44
pradeeptoMacAnthony: I generally update kde using non-X session.07:44
MacAnthonyI didn't realize it was updating kde - at first at least07:44
MacAnthonyand didn't actually get 3.5.2 installed until I did it without kde running07:45
apollo2011MacAnthony: yeah i know07:45
MacAnthonyI was just doing an update from adept-updater - which stalled, froze and crashed07:45
MacAnthonythat's what started it all07:46
MacAnthonyI started out just trying to get my printer hooked up and ended up spending a fruitless hour and a half getting kde back up and running :)07:47
MacAnthonynice evening for me07:47
nlindbladupgrading to Dapper went smooth07:47
nlindbladas in, only ten broken packages07:47
jpatrickhi nlindblad07:48
nlindbladhi jpatrick07:48
apollo2011apparently the 3.5.2 packages are in the normal dapper repos07:48
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jpatrickapollo2011: yes07:48
nlindbladjpatrick: the cute girl was here earlier!07:48
trappistonly one broken here, and it wouldn't have been broken for most people07:48
jpatricknlindblad: don't talk to me about that area, thanks07:49
nlindbladjpatrick: why not? :(07:49
trappista) it's offtopic07:49
Sergi0gouchi what is ulteo going to be?07:50
MacAnthonyI saw Riddell announced a new test of flight 6 - thought about installing a very bleading edge version :)07:50
patrixulteo's gonna make 2006 the year of the Linux Desktop (tm)! just like 2005 was... 2004.. 2003.. etc ;)07:51
zielonyHey mates I have xgl working on Breezy ; D07:51
patrixLOL07:51
patrixzielony, congrats...07:51
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zielonypatrix: thx ; ] 07:51
patrixzielony, funny thing is I set my xchat to color the nicknames, and yours came out green. either xchat is intelligent, or this is one damn coincidence :D07:51
zielonypatrix: haha zielony in polish =green ; D07:52
patrixyes I know, hence the funny part :)07:52
patrixhence why I laughed,  Imean07:52
jjesse!kerry07:53
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jjesse07:53
jpatrick!info kerry07:53
nlindbladgirls being off-topic?07:53
jpatrickjjesse: strange07:54
Sergi0patrix hmm anywhay, i just need a simple-to-use system for my parents :)07:54
patrixSergi0, pen and paper? ;)07:54
Sergi0:D07:54
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patrixyea I'm also curious to see what Ulteo's gonna be like07:56
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patrixbut huh.. I was never a fan of Mandrake linux anyway07:56
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pradeeptoMacAnthony: where did you see that announcement07:59
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MacAnthony<Riddell>** flight 6 candidates for testing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060331/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060331.1/08:00
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MacAnthonydoes ubotu repeat people's chats?08:01
MacAnthonylike last?08:02
pradeeptothanks08:02
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p01n7Kate is THE BEST editor i've ever used in my life!08:09
p01n7:)08:09
jpatrickp01n7: yep08:09
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p01n7jpatrick, built in temrinal access.. line numbering.. syntax highlighting... file system browser... document browser.. project browser.. and alot more i haven't usd yet08:10
jpatrickI love it too08:10
p01n7props to the dev's on that project08:10
p01n7sure beats the hell out of IDLE for python projects08:11
p01n7o, and for python.. it automatically indents for you08:11
p01n7:D08:11
robotgeekkokurya^afk: can you please turn off public aways?08:12
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p01n7jpatrick,is there anything better then kate?08:12
robotgeekvim :)08:12
jpatrickp01n7: not that i know of08:13
pradeeptoheh08:13
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p01n7pffft... vim is handy08:13
p01n7not great08:13
p01n7theres a diff08:13
pradeeptowhere are the emacs users when you need them :P08:13
robotgeekp01n7: wait till you use it with screen.08:13
p01n7auto indenting for pyhon?08:13
p01n7file system browser?08:13
p01n7project browser? ( oither then screen )08:14
p01n7?08:14
p01n7:)08:14
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robotgeekp01n7: auto-indent, yes. file system browser, yes. project browser (not sure)08:15
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p01n7o?08:15
pradeeptop01n7: you cant win with robotgeek, I tell ya, I have tried it before. ;)08:15
slow-motion<pradeepto> where are the emacs users when you need them :P < learning strange shortcuts08:15
p01n7robotgeek, obviously doesn't understand how much kate OWNS vim08:15
p01n7:)08:15
p01n7for gui, anyway08:15
pradeeptoslow-motion: heh08:15
robotgeekp01n7: i am from the "kill the rodent" side of things08:15
pradeeptoheh08:16
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fabienname X3n0n08:17
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nico8481hi08:25
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ricardoAnyone here have cedega installed?08:46
jpatrickricardo: not me, sorry08:52
nukyarafat: hey, if you're still around, i think i have a solution for the java applet thing in konqueror... i got mine to work..08:55
ricardothx08:58
nukyarafat: well, i hope you get this later, i found out through the ##java channel, basically i was using the path i got returned when i did "which java" in the konq settings, but by defatult, that's the gcl java, not the sun sdk java.. so you have to change the path to sun's java, for me it was /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java and it works great now.. i hope this helps you too :)09:00
frank23nuky: did you change the link manually?09:01
frank23!java09:01
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:01
frank23nuky: the last step to install sun java :  sudo update-alternatives --config java    it changes to symlink to sun java09:02
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ricardodonwload it from the sun site09:02
JohannesHi, anyone managed to upgrade to latest KDE? (using breezy badger)09:03
nukyoh i installed it through aptitude and it didn't change it.. and arafat was having probs with viewing applets too, so i thought this MIGHT be the case for him too09:03
Johanneswhen i try to login now it says "dcopserver not started" and then it restarts.09:03
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frank23nuky: the deb doesn't change the link, you have to do it with update-alternatives --config java09:03
frank23Johannes: did the upgrade complete successfuly?09:04
ricardoi just intalled the sun java from web and t was ok09:04
nukyfrank23: ooooh i see. thanks! :)09:04
frank23ricardo: with the sun installer? it works but its usually better to install .deb packages if you can09:05
Johannesfrank23: i didnt see any errors. is there a log in /var/logs..?09:05
frank23Johannes: not sure.. you restarted X?09:05
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Johannesfrank23: yes. restarted x, restarted my pc... and now im without kde :(09:06
Johannesfrank23: i cant start dcopserver either when i try. "no supported protocols"09:06
Johannesits hard to google without a decent browser :)09:06
frank23Johannes: you upgraded to kde 3.5.2?  not sure what the problem is09:06
ricardoi always used the package from the site, and never got problem09:06
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frank23ricardo: yes but if you use the seveas repository for sun java for example, you'll get upgrades automatically and you never have to worry about it09:07
Johannesfrank23: yes, i upgraded to 3.5.209:08
ricardoi see09:08
frank23Johannes: does kdm start?09:08
Johannesfrank23: i used mirror #3.09:08
frank23Johannes: the mirrors should all be identical09:09
nukyabout the upgrade to 3.5.2, is there a solution to the double google search bars in konqueror after the upgrade? or the konsole settings error messages? i checked the kde forum but no mention of it..09:09
Johannesfrank23: i can start kde, but after i login i get my progress-bar.. and it just stalls.09:09
ricardoim having problems to install my printer?  Its a Epson stylus color 67009:09
frank23Johannes: try  cd ~09:09
Johannesfrank23: and after like 30 seconds or so, it says dcopserver isnt started, try again, and it restarts x.09:09
frank23Johannes: mv .kde .kdebackup09:09
Johannesfrank23: done09:10
Johannesand then reboot?09:10
frank23nuky: try to find the extensions configuration, and remove the 2nd google bar09:10
frank23Johannes: no just try to log in again09:10
Johannesfrank23: ok. gotto start kde then. brb.09:11
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johannes_ok09:15
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johannes_unfortunately it worked09:15
johannes_:)09:15
frank23johannes_: unfortunately?09:15
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johannes_frank23: yes, because all my personal settings are gone.09:16
johannes_frank23: :)09:16
johannes_frank23: ie; kde looks like crap09:16
callieanyone here run enemy territory?09:16
johannes_callie: yes09:16
frank23johannes_: yeah I know....  maybe you can figure out the specific problem and restore your .kdebackup09:16
calliejohannes_, any sound problems? what soundcard do you use?09:16
johannes_frank23: yupp.09:16
johannes_callie: its a common problem. the fix is in the ubuntu-wiki09:17
johannes_callie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory09:18
calliethanks johannes_  just got there ;)09:18
johannes_frank23: it seems to be a common problem; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239109:21
calliejohannes_, i've tried all that before, i get this error /dev/dsp: Invalid argument09:21
callieCould not set /dev/dsp to stereo=2------------------------------------ any clues ?09:21
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frank23johannes_: I didn't have that problem..09:22
oxezhi, when I mount my usb drive (or mp3 player) on my computer, kde mounts it automatically, and everything works fine. But, when I delete a file on the usb drive itself, kde creates a .Trash inside the drive. How would I prevent this?09:22
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johannes_callie: nope, if that didnt help i dont know.09:23
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johannes_frank23: wrong link form me. this is the right one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15204709:23
calliethanks anyway johannes_ :D09:23
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nukyfrank23: thanks!!! i just removed one of the googlebar plugins.. any suggestions about the konsole setting error? when i go to Settings -> Configure Konsole, I get this: http://www.learningspirit.co.uk/konsole_error.png09:32
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frank23nuky: I have no idea. I don't have that problem. If you want to try a cool alternative console, try yakuake.   its a console that slides from the top of the screen when you need it, like in quake09:34
trappistnuky: you have konsole installed?09:34
trappistnuky: if so you should have /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la09:35
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nukytrappist: i have konsole installed, but i don't have that file for some reason.. i have a whole load of other files starting kcm_* in that folder though.. i'll try reinstalling konsole and see maybe.. but it should be a broken package in this case?09:39
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trappistnuky: maybe it was fixed in dapper or in kde3.5.209:40
trappistwhich is what I'm running09:40
nukyfrank23: thanks, i'll try it out.. i love fun consoles.. i used to have the transparent on my desktop, that was nice too!09:40
captainbrailleHi, where do I go to find out what type of video card I have and how to set up OpenGL?09:40
nukytrappist: ah.. i'll google around, i know what i'm looking for a little more now.. thanks..09:41
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trappistspeaking of consoles - could one of you guys install (if necessary) eterm and run 'Eterm -x' in kde and tell me if it accepts focus?09:42
calliecaptainbraille, lspci is your friend here09:42
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calliecaptainbraille, in a console enter lspci09:42
captainbraillecallie: Thanks, okay, entered09:43
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calliecaptainbraille, so you can see something that looks like a graphics card in that list?09:43
calliesomething like this ??? 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)09:44
nukytrappist: i just installed it, and yeah.. it accepts focus09:44
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trappistweird09:45
captainbraillecallie: yes, I see something about like that09:45
trappistnuky: thanks09:45
trappistI have to tweak the source a bit and rebuild for it to work right here09:45
calliecaptainbraille, wicked, thats your gfx card then ;)09:45
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captainbraillecallie: awesome =) thanks, how do I learn about OpenGL then?09:45
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calliecaptainbraille, what kind of card is it?09:46
captainbraillecallie: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01)09:46
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calliecaptainbraille, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-via09:49
calliecaptainbraille, im not sure if that card supports open gl (i dont know that card) but thats the driver so if it does i imagine using that will sort it out for you09:49
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captainbraillecallie, okay thank you very much09:51
calliecaptainbraille, thank me when its working ;)09:51
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captainbraillelol09:51
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sonicHi there, can anyone tell me how to check the group apache is running under?09:54
nukyfrank23: hey, yakuake is really nice!! just trying to configure it.. thanks!09:55
frank23nuky: Yeah I noticed I always had a konsole open on every desktop so that keeps them hidden away but easily accessible09:56
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trappistsonic: grep ^Group /etc/apache2/apache2.conf09:58
smooshhi, someones know how to run acrobat reader on amd64, without chroot32?10:00
pradeeptonuky: frank23 heh yukuake is really cool10:01
pradeeptoawesome10:01
sonictrappist: thanks v much :-)10:02
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nukydoes anyone here mind showing me their kcm_konsole.la? i'm trying to create one to put it in the /usr/lib/kde3/ folder.. but i'm not getting very far finding one online!10:03
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MetaMorfoziShey10:05
MetaMorfoziSanybody use the xmm kicker applet?10:05
MetaMorfoziSanybody use any aplet in kicker?10:05
MetaMorfoziShow can i move it?10:05
MetaMorfoziSi want to reposition it10:05
MetaMorfoziSbut with rightclikc i get the applet's popup10:06
Tm_Tthere should be handle in left side of applet10:06
MetaMorfoziS?10:06
pradeeptofrank23: how can I start yakuake automagicall when I login10:06
Tm_Tif not, then reenable handle and then move10:06
MetaMorfoziSyou thinking the lock panels?10:06
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MetaMorfoziSit's disabled10:06
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: no, not locking10:06
MetaMorfoziSwhere can i enable the handle?10:07
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Tm_Trightclick kicker -> configure panel10:07
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: Appearance -> Advanced Options10:07
MetaMorfoziSql10:08
MetaMorfoziSthank you10:08
Snake__Hey guys, I installed "The Hardware Book" from the repos, where did it install to/how can I access it??10:08
jpatrick /usr/share/doc/packagename probably10:09
Snake__jpatrick: thanks! :)10:10
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MetaMorfoziSI love increase the eyecandy!:)10:11
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MetaMorfoziSat thistime i have this: http://metamorfozis.hu/p/desk.png10:14
MetaMorfoziS:)10:14
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Tm_T:/10:15
trappistnuky: .la files aren't text files.  you can't just create one.10:15
jpatrickMetaMorfoziS: too dark for my liking10:16
frank23pradeepto: if it's on when you log out, I think it starts back when you log in10:17
MetaMorfoziSyes, you say good10:17
MetaMorfoziSbut i'm very little time's saw my wallpaper:D10:17
pradeeptofrank23: thanks10:17
nukytrappist: yeah, i realised.. i had an old linux system on a hard drive (long story!) i copied the kcm_konsole.la and kcm_konsole.so from there and the settings dialog is back to normal now! tried the main changes that i wanted to make and it's not crashed on me or anything so will leave it till a better solution comes along.. thanks for pointing me in the right direction!10:18
MetaMorfoziSand i fet fed up this picture fast:) and search other10:18
MetaMorfoziS:)10:18
MetaMorfoziSbut today its better.10:18
trappistnuky: awesome10:22
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Otisevening chaps ... any idea why it takes ~1 minute for krdc to connect to the remote krfb ?10:30
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__domhello10:39
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PetecakesCan someone direct me to a guide for mounting flashdrives?10:55
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ninHerhi all10:57
robotgeekPetecakes: it should automount?10:57
robotgeekin /media/10:57
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Petecakesrobotgeek; it hasn't automounted10:59
robotgeekPetecakes: plug and unplug your usb, and type this in Konsole "dmesg | tail -f"11:00
Petecakesdoesn't work11:02
robotgeekPetecakes: what does dmesg tell you?11:02
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BlissexPetecakes: there is a USB flash HOWTO, just do a search with the obvious keywords.11:03
ninHerPetecakes: what about your fstab ?11:05
PetecakesninHer; what about it?11:05
ninHerhave you writed one line to config /media/usb?11:06
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PetecakesninHer; no, not yet.11:06
ninHerit was required in my Kubuntu Dapper to work11:06
PetecakesHeh, I should really get around to getting the 'net on my Kubuntu PC...all this running back and forward is annoying <_<11:07
ninHerPetecakes: something like.....11:07
ninHer######/dev/sda1       /media/usb      vfat defaults,user,noauto 0     011:07
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robotgeekmyndmelder: please turn off public aways11:09
Kr4t05mkay11:10
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zizai got a strange problem here: in konqueror, when you do a right click on a folder you can choose in the "Move to" sub-menu where you want to move it. But it's not there anymore!!! Neither "Copy to" is!11:12
zizamaybe it was disabled by an update (using Dapper), does anybody know where I can enable this again? i already looked in the konqueror settings...11:13
robotgeekziza: weird.11:14
zizaindeed :)11:14
ninHerlol11:14
zizaok, I restarted my Konqueror instance, and all is fine now!11:15
zizaincredible11:15
vgehmm, whats a good gui program to check how mutch data im downloading?11:18
ninHeriptraf is just right11:19
PetecakesninHer, I've added it to fstab now, and it's appearing under Storage Media and automounting onto my desktop, but when I click it I get a "Special device /media/sda1 does not exist" error. I've also tried renaming it to sdb1, it doesn't work either.11:20
PetecakesWhen I do sudo lsusb, I can see that my flash drive is under "Bus 002 Device 005", if that's any help11:20
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ninHerPetecakes: ...then, go to the desktop and right click//new device//hard drive and...11:22
ninHerwhen created, open Properties and set /media/usb11:23
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tchizeHello11:25
ninHerhi tchize11:25
ninHerbye tchize11:25
Kr4t05!alien11:26
ubotumethinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/11:26
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PetecakesninHer; same error still: "Special device /dev/sda1 does not exist"11:28
ninHerso, may be some module has to be installed11:29
ninHertry usbmgr or usbtools11:30
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tchizehi11:41
zizahi11:41
Kyralhmm11:41
zizais there a tool that can vacuum clean a vmdk-file? (Virtual Machine Disk)11:41
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Kyralwould I be a traitor if I changed my desktop over to ArchLinux?11:42
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tchizei think the answer is obvious, but i'll ask in case someone has any idea. I just installed a wifi card in my kubuntu, hardware seems detected ok (i get a ra0 wireless interface), but when i issue 'sudo dhclient' just after the client return, my kernel freeze!!11:42
BlippeKyral, yes, we would have to find you and "take care" of you!11:43
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azurehuesofbluethis is sort of a n00b question, but in Firefox 1.5 it says the plugins quicktime, windows media player, and shockwave are unavailable... so how do I get around that?11:44
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KyralI don't wanna, but for some reason its randomly seizin up on me11:47
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_jeffhey guys11:47
_jeffis the package for flash libflash-mozplugin?11:48
Kyralonly started after a fresh install of Flight 511:48
_jeffwhats flight %?11:49
_jeffdapper?11:49
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Kyral511:49
_jeffwhats the package you need to view flash in konqueror?11:49
_jefflibflash-mozplugin?11:50
_staticsame package i think as mozilla11:51
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xstationhello11:51
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robotgeek_jeff: flashplayer-nonfree , maybe?11:52
_jeffthanks, ill try it11:52
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xstationjust like to know how to use KGpg so that encrypts a message with not your key but with the recepients key read the man but cannot find a solution11:53
zizacool, i managed to make some sub-menus in the right-click context menu in Konqueror to disappear, again :)11:56
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zizadoes somebody have KDE 3.5.2? i want him/her to try confirming this bug11:57
_staticnope11:57
_jeffhow do you get it?11:58
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zizai open an archive11:58
robotgeekziza: what?11:58
zizawith ark11:58
_staticisnt thaT in beta?11:58
zizabeta? it's a bug fix release11:58
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zizathen you drag a random file from ark to Konqueror11:59
_staticanyone noticed the right click bug you right click and the menu appares for a second then dissapears?/11:59
zizaand afterwards the bug should manifest :)11:59
zizai think i'm going to try it again11:59
robotgeekziza: nope, can't reproduce12:00
zizahm, restarting konqueror helped to remove the bug, but now it doesn't work anymore12:01
zizaif i right-click on a folder/file some sub-menus are missing12:01
nukyhi, is there a windows html help viwer for linux? i have a windows html help version of the java documentation and would be nice if i could view it.. search and the like are a little easier with it..12:02
_staticbluefish?12:02

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