[12:03] <frank23> travail101: um it's easier if you follow the "quick and dirty way" and then create the symlinks for the plugins
[12:03] <Jrwa> good evening all
[12:03] <_redondo_> I tested dapper drake flight 4, and the kernel doesn't support my pctel modem
[12:04] <frank23> _redondo_: is that a winmodem?
[12:04] <_redondo_> yes, of course...
[12:04] <_harm> can i haveCOMPOSITE things via X.org in KDE?
[12:04] <frank23> !winmodem
[12:04] <ubotu> from memory, winmodem is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto for instructions on setting up your modem (including winmodems). Additional info can be found at http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[12:05] <_redondo_> that's a problem... I have to stay there...
[12:05] <_redondo_> with breezy
[12:05] <frank23> _harm: try asking #ubuntu+1 or #xgl
[12:06] <Jrwa> I've come because a RAM memory on my dapper
[12:06] <frank23> _redondo_: oh its working in breezy but not dapper?
[12:07] <Jrwa> since I upgraded from my breezy, I'm running out of RAM (1Gb). KDE starts with over 700Mb used, and it starts growing til the pc freezes on 920Mb of ram used
[12:07] <Jrwa> I wonder if there's a known bug that's causing that
[12:07] <frank23> Jrwa: what process is using the ram?  gam_server?
[12:08] <Jrwa> root      4612  3.0 41.8 438800 433084 tty7    SLs+ 09:32  26:11 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:
[12:08] <Jrwa> that's the X server with the 41% of the whole ram, I dunno if that's normal
[12:08] <_redondo_> frank23: yes, yes...
[12:09] <frank23> Jrwa: no that's alot. X is using 15% of 1 GB RAM for me
[12:09] <Jrwa> It worked correctly on breezy
[12:09] <frank23> _redondo_: not sure... check #dapper+1   try flight 5.  everything that worked on breezy *should* work on dapper. If not it's a bug
[12:10] <_redondo_> no... because when you compile a driver... it is designed for a special range of kernels...
[12:10] <_redondo_> it's the kernel...
[12:10] <frank23> _redondo_: where does the driver come from?
[12:12] <_redondo_> what do you mean ?
[12:12] <Jrwa> so no one knows anything about X eating ram? :)
[12:12] <frank23> _redondo_: where does the kernel source come from?
[12:12] <_redondo_> can be the architecture...
[12:12] <frank23> _redondo_: I mean module
[12:12] <_redondo_> wich is ??
[12:12] <allyourrejects> i can't get /etc/init.d/setserial   to work.  I have  /dev/ttyS0 port 0x0338 irq 4 autoconfig      in /etc/serial.config  am i missing something?
[12:13] <_redondo_> from the pctel driver for linux page
[12:13] <_redondo_> a .gz with the code
[12:13] <_redondo_> I explain the error...
[12:14] <_redondo_> when I compile it on dapper kernel, I make:
[12:14] <_redondo_> modprobe pctel
[12:14] <_redondo_> and all is ok
[12:14] <_redondo_> now, I have to do modprobe pctel_hw
[12:15] <_redondo_> there, modprobe freezes and give me segmentation fault...
[12:15] <frank23> _redondo_: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto#head-0164869cfd1c39a2bdff939835094630ba26bdef  I think your modem should be supported by the conexant driver
[12:15] <_redondo_> conexant...
[12:15] <Kr4t05> Question
[12:15] <_redondo_> but... my modem is pctel..
[12:15] <Kr4t05> How do I get Kopete to log in?
[12:16] <_redondo_> what supports conexant ?
[12:16] <_redondo_> krt4t05: go to configure, look out for: new account
[12:16] <_redondo_> you won't need to give your passwd each time you log in}
[12:16] <nuky> is there a way to create a session that gets loaded when you start kde? in the session manager, there's an option to restore manually saved session, but how do you manually save a session?
[12:16] <Kr4t05> I have all my accounts in, but I can't make it sign on.
[12:17] <frank23> _redondo_: yes but according to http://www.modemsite.com/56k/pctel.asp  they have conexant hardware
[12:17] <Kr4t05> nvm
[12:17] <_redondo_> ahh ok
[12:17] <frank23> _redondo_: do a little research to confirm that for your specific modem
[12:18] <_redondo_> ok, I'll look out
[12:18] <_redondo_> thanks
[12:18] <Jrwa> I bet _redondo_'s spanish :)
[12:19] <_redondo_> jajaj
[12:19] <_redondo_> hah
[12:19] <_redondo_> yes
[12:19] <_redondo_> sorry
[12:19] <Jrwa> si es que se nos nota mazo, jajajaja
[12:19] <_redondo_> inevitablemente
[12:19] <_redondo_> jej
[12:22] <wsjunior> sup guys, i've just upgraded to kde 3.5.2 now my konqueror looks like this -> http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6061/konqueror9dq.jpg
[12:22] <wsjunior> how to fix that?
[12:23] <frank23> wsjunior: that's normal if you start from the button in the taskbar.
[12:24] <wsjunior> frank23: normal?
[12:24] <wsjunior> two google bars?
[12:24] <frank23> wsjunior: just type in an adress
[12:24] <frank23> wsjunior: oh... didn't notice
[12:24] <wsjunior> :)
[12:25] <frank23> wsjunior: hmmm... I also have 2 google bars. never noticed it before ;)
[12:25] <frank23> I guess that tells alot about my attention to detail!
[12:25] <Jrwa> XDD
[12:25] <wsjunior> heh.
[12:25] <wsjunior> :-p
[12:27] <wsjunior> frank23: fixed. konqueror/settings/configure extesions
[12:27] <Kyral> Meh...I think my connection to my server is being slowed by multiple IPTables rules...
[12:27] <wsjunior> frank23: there are two google bar plugins
[12:34] <_shane> does anyone know how to change a USB flash drive from mounting 'noexec' to mounting 'exec'?
[12:36] <Kyral> make a fstab entry with its /dev entry and specify "exec"?
[12:37] <_shane> Kyral: but there is no entry for USB drives in fstab
[12:38] <_shane> Kyral: does an entry override the auto config?
[12:38] <nuky> hey, how do i know what folder my kde is installed in? it's needed for a configuration of a program i want to install from source..
[12:38] <Kyral> nuky: you mean kde-prefix?
[12:38] <_shane> nuky: <home>.kde
[12:38] <Kyral> _shane: thats the settings
[12:39] <Kyral> nuky: does it want to know the prefix?
[12:39] <Kyral> or the location?
[12:39] <ninniuz> kde-config --prefix ?
[12:39] <Kyral> well
[12:39] <Kyral> ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`
[12:39] <nuky> Kyral: yeah, it wants it ike this: ./configure --prefix= here directory path of your KDE3
[12:39] <Kyral> the backticks are important
[12:40] <nuky> oh, thanks!
[12:40] <Kyral> what proggy?
[12:40] <nuky> kbilliards <enter embarrassed smiley> sorry
[12:41] <Kyral> lol sokay
[12:41] <nuky> thanks :)
[12:46] <wsjunior> why i can't use admin mode in kcontrol?
[12:47] <wsjunior> is anybody here able to use admin mode in kcontrol?
[12:48] <doml> wsjunior: yes, it takes a minute after giving it my password but works okay for me
[12:48] <_shane> does anyone know how to setup udev/hotplug to mount a USB flash drive 'exec' not 'noexec'?
[12:48] <wsjunior> kde 3.5.2?
[12:48] <wsjunior> doml: here it only shows loading..
[12:49] <doml> wsjunior: KDE: 3.4.3
[12:49] <wsjunior> hum..
[12:49] <wsjunior> i'm trying with kde 3.5.2
[12:56] <doml> The   device   will   be   mounted   with    the    following    flags:
[12:56] <doml>        async,atime,nodev,noexec,noauto,nosuid,user,rw
[12:56] <doml> _shane: you can try adding the device to /etc/fstab but the pmount man page says that
[12:56] <doml> so check out pmount and go from there
[01:00] -banbot:#kubuntu- lol g, join #bantown and get hugs visit http://binrev.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #kubuntu SUCKS
[01:01] <Dasnipa`> erm how bout an addband for him
[01:01] <Dasnipa`> addban*
[01:02] <doml> are there any mods on the channel?
[01:03] <doml> w007 anarchy!
[01:04] <frank23> doml: they're here but only take ops if needed
[01:05] <Dasnipa`> yeah but n=banbot@tor/session/x-98b498c6a8c37e23 needs a ban
[01:06] <frank23> !ops
[01:06] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:06] <doml> heh, that's handy
[01:07] <nalioth> frank23: may i help you?
[01:07] <nalioth> frank23: n/m
[01:07] <frank23> oh that banbot left already
[01:07] <nalioth> doesnt matter
[01:08] <_shane> doml: I couldn't find in any mention of being able to change how it mounts the drive.
[01:10] <doml> _shane: yeah, just glancing at that briefly, my guess is that you would have to add /dev/sda1 or whatever to fstab and explicitly mount/umount it which seems a little heavy-handed considering
[01:11] <Tm_T> nalioth: yay!
[01:12] <doml> I wonder how many folks here are tor users...
[01:13] <Snake__> tor?
[01:14] <doml> anonymizer/proxy for networking
[01:14] <Snake__> o ok
[01:14] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[01:14] <Kr4t05> that could be useful. :P
[01:14] <doml> it's pretty cool.  but that bot is the reason why there's many channels, and now this one, that don't allow tor
[01:15] <Kr4t05> that has to suck.
[01:16] <Myxomatosis> Can anyone help me with some gcc issues on Kubuntu?
[01:16] <doml> speaking of sucking, I can't get revelation (password manager) to run under kde in kubuntu...
[01:18] <Snake__> Myxomatosis: whatcha got
[01:18] <Snake__> doml: whats wrong with kwallet (I think its called)
[01:19] <Snake__> doml: kwalletmanager**
[01:19] <me2win> !lart Dr_House
[01:19] <Myxomatosis> Well when I try and compile a program using gcc it won't recognize stdio.h
[01:19] <Snake__> Myxomatosis: whats the error
[01:20] <Myxomatosis> test.c:1:18: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[01:20] <doml> snake__: kwallet doesn't have all my passwords in it.  i need to decrypt my existing revelation file
[01:20] <Myxomatosis> This is what it says.
[01:20] <Myxomatosis> I'm thinking maybe I'm just missing a certain package but I have no idea which one to get.
[01:20] <Snake__> Myxomatosis: hmm not sure :(
[01:20] <Snake__> doml: ah
[01:21] <Myxomatosis> Damn this is really bothering me. The only reason I got kubuntu was so I could do assignments from home and I can't even do that.
[01:21] <doml> snake__: yeah, see, that's the rub.  it's just an AES encrypted XML file... Idda thought that stuff like this would be standardized enough for me to keep a file across applications
[01:22] <Snake__> doml: I dunno how much HDD space you got, but perhaps install ubuntu and get your passwords?
[01:23] <doml> myxomatosis: if stdio doesn't exist, then you're missing a lot of the development libraries etc
[01:23] <doml> or that's what it sounds like
[01:23] <Myxomatosis> I figured, I'm just not sure which libraries I need to get.
[01:24] <doml> probably a lot of them
[01:24] <Myxomatosis> I tried looking through the synaptic package manager but there were so many I wasn't sure what I needed.
[01:24] <doml> start with gcc, look at the recommended packages, and install those too.  just go from there
[01:24] <nalioth> Kr4t05: doml: exceptions to any blanket ban on the list can be assigned to a user who has a legitimate need for tor
[01:25] <lwelyn> Gute Nacht.
[01:27] <doml> argh!  so i finnally got all the dependancies sorted out so i could "compile" revelation and I still get the same error
[01:27] <Snake__> Myxomatosis: have you gotten build-essential ?
[01:27] <Myxomatosis> I'm not sure, let me check.
[01:28] <Myxomatosis> No I didn't, installing it now though.
[01:28] <Snake__> Get that
[01:29] <_shane> what command do I use in a scipt to put something in /var/log/messages ?
[01:30] <Myxomatosis> Ah! It worked! Thank you so much.
[01:30] <Snake__> Yep :)
[01:30] <Myxomatosis> Thank god, now I actually can justify having this OS on my second hard drive. Thanks.
[01:30] <Snake__> lol
[01:32] <pike> sblive soundcard distupgrade to dapper.. no sound help :)
[01:32] <doml> _shane: that's syslog, I haven't bothered to send stuff to syslog from a script, but you must be able to
[01:34] <wsjunior> how to play .avi and .mpeg videos with kaffeine and gstreamer?
[01:34] <_shane> doml: found it, it is logger
[01:34] <doml> logger?  sounds handy
[01:35] <shawn___> hey
[01:35] <shawn___> what do I change to get read access to my ntfs partition as user
[01:36] <shawn___> I tried looking around changing the line in fstab but no luck
[01:36] <pike> shawn___: mount -o umask=0000 /dev etc. will work
[01:36] <pike> shawn___: or just specify umask=000,defautls in fstab or something
[01:36] <Snake__> ubotu: tell wsjunior about restrictedformats
[01:39] <pike> anyone using dapper? i cant seem to get sound working after dist-upgrade
[01:39] <shawn___> pike: no luck with that
[01:40] <wsjunior> Snake__: thanks.
[01:40] <pike> shawn___: umask option didnt work?
[01:40] <shawn___> no
[01:41] <Snake__> wsjunior: no prob
[01:41] <pike> shawn___: well i havent had an ntfs partition in a while but that should work 'sudo mount -o /dev/hda1 /mnt/directory'
[01:42] <pike> shawn___: well i havent had an ntfs partition in a while but that should work 'sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/directory'
[01:43] <Ardarandir> Gute Nacht
[01:43] <lars_g> Hi all.
[01:43] <lars_g> Is 3.5.2 a known breezy killer?
[01:44] <lars_g> I mean, I installed it, it seemed to work fine
[01:44] <lars_g> I just now moved the machine and I have a very odd behaviour.
[01:44] <lars_g> if I use kdm, the machine freezes with no error or trace
[01:44] <lars_g> Or, if I use gdm, and then enter kde, it freezes
[01:44] <Snake__> lars_g: if you use the cutting edge, expect to bleed, its diffrent results for everyong
[01:44] <lars_g> and sometimes just booting to gdm, it freezes after a short while (sometimes)
[01:45] <lars_g> But, at least I think it's not my driver (nvidia) because in rescue mode, I can do a startx and use it normally.
[01:45] <lars_g> Snake__: Perfect, I am not asking not to bleed. I am asking for help in bandaging it. yes?
[01:45] <shawn___> pike: no luck
[01:46] <Snake__> lars_g: wish I could help, but I have no idea :(
[01:46] <lars_g> Ok, thanks anyhow
[01:46] <lars_g> I'll see if I can dig something off my kernel logs, this is too odd
[01:46] <lars_g> I moved the machine around just now so I am affraid it be video card overheating, but then why does it work with startx in recovery mode? sigh
[01:46] <lars_g> I'll check a few logs
[01:47] <pike> shawn___: what error are you getting?
[01:47] <shawn___> bash: cd: /media/sda3: Permission denied
[01:47] <shawn___> not much
[01:48] <knill> why cant i install kdeveloper in breezy?
[01:48] <pike> shawn___: and you did sudo umount /media/sda3 and then remounted with above commands?
[01:49] <shawn___> yay
[01:49] <shawn___> works now
[01:49] <pike> :)
[01:49] <knill> hi
[01:50] <shawn___> sorry linux just isn't my strong suit, we're barely scratching the surface in class but soon enough I'll know alot
[01:50] <shawn___> my college has a fairly strong appretiation for linux
[01:53] <pike> shawn___: np hope you enjoy kubuntu
[01:53] <knill> what version of kdeveloper can i install in breezy?
[01:54] <jmarrero> someone here kwons if I can intall xgl and compiz in  kubuntu dapper drake and it work nice, just like in gnome?
[01:56] <wsjunior> does anybody here with KDE 3.5.2 is able to run admin mode in kcontrol?
[01:56] <Snake__> jmarrero: I never got xgl to work in gnome :(
[01:56] <jmarrero> Snake__ and in kubuntu?
[01:56] <Snake__> Never tried
[01:57] <jmarrero> Isee
[01:57] <Snake__> jmarrero: I would assume it would work just as easily but with compiz-kde instead of compiz-gnome (I think it is)
[01:57] <jmarrero> nice thankx
[01:58] <Snake__> knill: whatever version is in the repos works best
[01:58] <knill> the version in repose dont install
[01:59] <knill> trying with a previous version
[01:59] <wsjunior> jmarrero: http://triligon.org/triligon/blog/xgl_on_kubuntu
[02:00] <jmarrero> wsjunior now I love u!
[02:01] <Snake__> knill: Is this what you want? kdevelop3
[02:01] <Snake__> !info kdevelop3
[02:01] <ubotu> kdevelop3: (An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.2.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1053 kB, Installed size: 3500 kB
[02:02] <pike> common sound problems in kde under dapper? anyone else have a problem?
[02:02] <Snake__> pike: its dapper, do a bug search
[02:05] <RogueJediX> Anyone here? I have a quick question. Just converted my windows partition from NTFS to FAT32 so I can write on it properly from my Linux partition. So now I just have to update /etc/fstab, right? Or is there more?
[02:06] <Snake__> RogueJediX: sounds bout right
[02:06] <RogueJediX> Cool, thanks
[02:07] <RogueJediX> Should I change ntfs to fat or fat32?
[02:07] <Snake__> Hmmmmmm..
[02:07] <Snake__> I think...
[02:07] <Snake__> !fat
[02:07] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snake__
[02:07] <Snake__> Ehh not sure
[02:08] <tristanmike> it gives you an option for either, I thought it was only fat32 for xp
[02:08] <RogueJediX> Ah, nevermind. I just remembered seeing a list in the mount man pages
[02:08] <Snake__> RogueJediX: vfat I believe
[02:08] <RogueJediX> Snake__: Thanks again
[02:09] <pike> ok this is going to sound foolish but.. howto toggle between onboard ac97 and sblive? gnome has a gui for this but not sure under kde
[02:12] <knill> yeah i want kdevelop3
[02:12] <Is_907> is ntfs write support not included in kubuntu? (do i need to recompile my kernel or is there a module available somewhere for it?)
[02:14] <Snake__> Is_907: No ntfs write support standard
[02:14] <Snake__> !ntfs
[02:14] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:14] <tristanmike> write support is sketchy and not reccommended
[02:14] <Snake__> Hmm...
[02:15] <RogueJediX> How come fat32 write support works better anyway?
[02:15] <Is_907> tristanmike: i know... i've used it in gentoo and debian... i just really need it to work so i can fix my XP installation (have to copy  the ntldr file from the cd... my stupid programming course is windows-bound)
[02:15] <RogueJediX> Snake__: It was vfat as you said, by the way
[02:15] <darkmatter137> hello
[02:15] <Snake__> RogueJediX: fat32 is open source, ntfs is propritety, so we need to break their code before we can use it
[02:16] <RogueJediX> Snake__: I thought fat32 was proprietary as well?
[02:16] <Snake__> RogueJediX: Well..not open source, but we know how fat32 works, information is avalible on that, NTFS is windows standard only
[02:16] <RogueJediX> Snake__: Ah, I see
[02:16] <Snake__> RogueJediX: and MS doesnt want to give it up
[02:17] <Is_907> so is there an easier way to have ntfs write support in dapper? i'd rather not have to compile a new kernel right now
[02:17] <darkmatter137> hey, does anyone know of any free linux drivers for belkin usb 802.11g adapters?
[02:18] <RogueJediX> Snake__: Isn't MS developing yet another proprietary filesystem for Vista?
[02:18] <Snake__> RogueJediX: yulp
[02:18] <Snake__> WinFS
[02:18] <RogueJediX> Joy. I think I'll stick with fat32 for now
[02:19] <RogueJediX> Incidentally, anyone know the max partition size fat32 supports?
[02:20] <Snake__> I believe 2tb?
[02:20] <Snake__> RogueJediX: in windows, only 32gigs
[02:20] <Snake__> RogueJediX: they locked it so that people would go to NTFS
[02:20] <darkmatter137> has anyone tried a linuxant driverloader?
[02:21] <Snake__> RogueJediX: yes the max size is 2 tb
[02:21] <RogueJediX> Snake__: Thanks. Because I remember trying to get a 100 GB partition formatted with fat32, but I never got the option
[02:21] <RogueJediX> Snake__: Any way to unlock it?
[02:21] <Snake__> RogueJediX: in windows XP, the max size is 4gb
[02:21] <Snake__> oops
[02:21] <Snake__> I mean 32
[02:21] <Snake__> Max FILE size is 4 gigs
[02:21] <Snake__> http://opera.answers.com/fat32
[02:21] <Snake__> RogueJediX: not that im aware of
[02:21] <h3sp4wn> darkmatter137: what model is it
[02:22] <darkmatter137> it is a Belkin FSD7050
[02:22] <darkmatter137> which is 802.11g 54mbps USB
[02:22] <darkmatter137> and, its listen on the linuxant page
[02:22] <darkmatter137> but, im really a noob to linux, so i need to know how to install
[02:22] <darkmatter137> and if its free or not
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=43
[02:23] <darkmatter137> ?
[02:23] <darkmatter137> whats that
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> the name of the driver you need to use and a post telling you how to do it
[02:24] <darkmatter137> ok, thank you  :)
[02:25] <darkmatter137> I love it when I had easy questions, yesterday it was "MY COMPUTER WONT BOOT"
[02:25] <darkmatter137> have*
[02:25] <darkmatter137> not had
[02:27] <wsjunior> wow. my pc restart when i start kopete
[02:27] <wsjunior> with kde 3.5.2
[02:27] <wsjunior> odd
[02:28] <theine> Hi, is network-manager-kde available somewhere?
[02:28] <wsjunior> ya at Kcontrol
[02:29] <wsjunior> but i can't open it here with kde 3.5.2
[02:30] <wsjunior> theine: alt+f2, type kcontrol, go to net, after net configuration
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> darkmatter137: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` - before you start to try compiling it
[02:34] <darkmatter137> ?
[02:34] <raphink> anybody with a ppc here?
[02:34] <RogueJediX> Am I missing something here? I've made sure multiverse and universe repos are uncommented and did apt-get update and yet when I search for mplayer all I get is mga-vid-source and mozilla-mplayer
[02:34] <darkmatter137> h3, what does that do?
[02:35] <RogueJediX> !mplayer
[02:35] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:35] <jmarrero> ubuntu Breezy for i386 PCs with KDE 3.5.2 and KOffice 1.5 RC 1, created on 2006-03-26 this live cd is in english?
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> darkmatter137: installs the requirements that you need to build the kernel module
[02:35] <theine> wsjunior: are you quite sure that's a network-manager frontend?
[02:36] <_wsjunior> is anybody here having problems with kde 3.5.2 and kopete?
[02:36] <darkmatter137> how can it install something if i have no internet connection?
[02:36] <Snake__> RogueJediX: whta kind of PC are you on? i386?
[02:36] <RogueJediX> Snake__: Yes. AMD Duron
[02:36] <darkmatter137> i type that into the terminal?
[02:36] <Snake__> RogueJediX: sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[02:37] <RogueJediX> Snake__: Already tried that. No go.
[02:37] <Snake__> RogueJediX: pastebin your sources.list
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> darkmatter137: Do you have the ubuntu cd in the machine - those files should be on that - you will have to get the tarball you download onto the machine by cd or floppy or usbkey or something
[02:38] <theine> maybe i should rephrase... does anybody know where knetworkmanager is supposed to end up? it used to be avaliable at kubunty.no-ip.org, but is not anymore
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> darkmatter137: you must have some internet connection or else you wouldn't be on here
[02:38] <darkmatter137> im dual booting
[02:38] <darkmatter137> im on my winxp system
[02:39] <darkmatter137> darn, i really have no clue how to do any of this
[02:39] <RogueJediX> Snake__: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/631847
[02:39] <darkmatter137> im going to try to find an easier one
[02:40] <ep> I just sucessfully built qt 4.1.2 from source.  Now I need to I extend my environment varibles.  The readme says I need to add a couple of lines to ".profile" but I don't think kubuntu uses this.
[02:40] <ep> How do I do this (PATH=) so it works in all terminals including X terminals?
[02:41] <theine_> oops, sorry, network-manager-kde is of course available at kubunty.no-ip.org
[02:41] <Snake__> RogueJediX: 1 sec, checking
[02:41] <RogueJediX> Snake__: No rush
[02:42] <Snake__> RogueJediX: and you apt-get updated you said?
[02:42] <RogueJediX> Snake__: Yes, two minutes or so ago
[02:43] <Snake__> RogueJediX: ...hmmm
[02:43] <Snake__> im not sure... ><
[02:43] <Snake__> sorry man
[02:43] <RogueJediX> Snake__: No prob. You already helped me with that whole fat32 things, so thanks for that
[02:43] <RogueJediX> *thing
[02:44] <Snake__> kik
[02:44] <Snake__> lol*
[02:47] <h3sp4wn> darkmatter137: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846&highlight=rt2570 - that one might be easier for you to follow download the rt2570-1.1.0-b1.tar.gz to your windows partition and have the cd ready because you will need it for the packages you need
[02:47] <darkmatter137> im trying the linuxant one
[02:47] <darkmatter137> its only a trial, but i dun care
[02:48] <darkmatter137> if i really need it ill buy it or ask a friend to crack it
[02:48] <darkmatter137> if it works, im happy
[02:59] <wsjunior> is anybody here running kde 3.5.2?
[02:59] <wsjunior> when i open kopete the system freeze and i have to reboot...
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> wsjunior: you have kopete open on start?
[03:03] <yuriy> wsjunior: not happening to me
[03:03] <LeeJunFan> wsjunior: I had that problem, and opening kopete only after the desktop started fixed it. Or don't have kopete auto connect.
[03:04] <wsjunior> LeeJunFan: i have auto connect
[03:04] <wsjunior> LeeJunFan: i can't open it to unselect
[03:04] <wsjunior> LeeJunFan: :(
[03:04] <wsjunior> i'll have to remove kopete config files..
[03:05] <wsjunior> done. lemme try now..
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> wsjunior: no, you didn't have to do that.
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> wsjunior: just change one line in kopeterc
[03:06] <wsjunior> i did
[03:06] <wsjunior> worked
[03:06] <wsjunior> odd.. i'd like to have autoconnect :/
[03:07] <LeeJunFan> wsjunior: do you have wireless?
[03:08] <LeeJunFan> wsjunior: wondering because I had a theory that it might have been due to timing of my wireless being configed while kopete was trying to connect.
[03:09] <_wsjunior> damn. i had to restart. not fixed.
[03:12] <_wsjunior> now it is. the problem was the spca5xx module. this module doesn't work i forgot. i dunno why it comes with kubuntu anyways..
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> _wsjunior: I had the hangs with .11 version of kubuntu but since I've been using .12 from svn it's fine. I also have spca5xx, but I have my own kernel too.
[03:14] <wasp_ems> hello i am having a problem with kopete..the other person sees the foto i have in msn on windows and cannot see my foto in linux...also i cannot send files..any ideas?
[03:17] <_wsjunior> well.. u can't send image files through kopete. msn issue. not kopete fault.
[03:18] <wasp_ems> aha..but i cannot even send txt files
[03:18] <wasp_ems> if i run msn through wine might that work?
[03:19] <_wsjunior> wasp_ems: to select ur photo to be showed u have to right click the butterfly/ proprieties/ user info/ and select the photo
[03:19] <_wsjunior> wasp_ems: dunno... never tried.
[03:19] <_wsjunior> wasp_ems: try aMSN u'll probablly like it.
[03:19] <_wsjunior> wasp_ems: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[03:19] <wasp_ems> can i send image files with that?or is gaim better?
[03:20] <_wsjunior> no, amsn seems with msn
[03:20] <_wsjunior> i don't like gaim by the way..
[03:20] <wasp_ems> ok but image files can be sent?
[03:21] <wasp_ems> so do i download 32 or 64 bit?
[03:22] <_wsjunior> wasp_ems: are u running a 64bit machine?
[03:23] <wasp_ems> no
[03:23] <LeeJunFan> wasp_ems:
[03:24] <LeeJunFan> oops. heh
[03:24] <wasp_ems> or i dont know actually
[03:24] <wasp_ems> :)
[03:24] <LeeJunFan> wasp_ems: if you didn't install amd64 version of kubuntu then you want 32 bit.
[03:24] <wasp_ems> ok
[03:24] <wasp_ems> :)
[03:24] <wasp_ems> thanx
[03:25] <wasp_ems> one last question...do u know how i can make voipbuster run with wine?
[03:26] <_wsjunior> no, i don't.
[03:27] <wasp_ems> ok thanx
[03:29] <wasp_ems> i did it through adept if thats ok
[03:30] <wsjunior> wasp_ems: ya. i was writing right now that u dont need to compile it just install using apt-get..
[03:31] <wasp_ems> ok cool
[03:32] <wsjunior> wasp_ems: this new version has webcam support, i dunno if the apt version has webcam support too..
[03:34] <wasp_ems> yeah i am looking at that now..so which do i download?ubuntu one, autopackage?
[03:42] <wasp_ems> does anyone know which file to download?
[03:43] <Kyral> for?
[03:44] <wasp_ems> amsn
[03:44] <Kyral> ICK
[03:44] <Kyral> !info amsn
[03:44] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[03:44] <Kyral> Its in the Repos
[03:44] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install amsn
[03:44] <wasp_ems> i did that
[03:44] <wasp_ems> i got it
[03:44] <wasp_ems> but i want to get the update
[03:44] <Kyral> dunno then
[03:44] <Kyral> !info amsn dapper
[03:44] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.95-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 2233 kB, Installed size: 7852 kB
[03:45] <Kyral> the new version is in Dapper
[03:45] <admrl> kopete also has webcam support
[03:45] <wasp_ems> yes but kopete does not support sending image files
[03:45] <admrl> yes it does
[03:45] <Kyral> whats the difference between a "normal" file and an image file?
[03:45] <admrl> you drag it into the window
[03:45] <Kyral> they are the same thing
[03:46] <admrl> try dragging it into the window
[03:46] <wasp_ems> i tried it with kopete and it did not work and a guy here told me it does not suport it
[03:46] <admrl> what version are you using..?
[03:46] <wasp_ems> and i cannot find the wecam support either on kopete
[03:46] <wasp_ems> one sedc
[03:47] <admrl> wasp_ems: you need to upgrade 2 kde 3.5 for it
[03:47] <wasp_ems> how do i do that?
[03:48] <admrl> well have you ever added a repo to your sources.list
[03:49] <wasp_ems> yes
[03:49] <wasp_ems> but to tell you the truth the last time i tried i failed..when trying to do it manually..if i do it through adept i think it will be fine
[03:50] <admrl> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[03:50] <admrl> htis is for 3.5
[03:50] <admrl> not 3.5.1 or 3.5.2
[03:50] <admrl> im using 3.5.2
[03:50] <admrl> but i dont think its gotten any more stable
[03:51] <wasp_ems> ok thanx i will try it
[03:51] <admrl> :) yep
[03:52] <wasp_ems> admrl: then do i go through adept and upgrade?
[03:54] <Kyral> Holy cow there are a lot of updates today
[03:54] <Kyral> in Dapper
[03:55] <admrl> update and upgrade
[03:55] <admrl> i do it from the commandline
[03:55] <wasp_ems> ok
[03:57] <wasp_ems> admrl: cool i did it..lets see now if it works:)
[03:58] <admrl> :) you hsould probably restart kde
[03:58] <admrl> so just logout and back in
[03:58] <wasp_ems> do i just sign out and in again?
[03:58] <wasp_ems> ok cool
[03:58] <wasp_ems> :)
[03:58] <wasp_ems> thanx
[03:58] <admrl> yep
[04:01] <wasp_ems> admrl: do i now have to update again for kopete to be updated?
[04:02] <admrl> wait you upgraded already didnt you..?
[04:02] <wasp_ems> yes
[04:02] <admrl> i thought you must have a really fast internet connection to upgrade that fast
[04:02] <admrl> not just update
[04:02] <wasp_ems> but nothing seems to have change
[04:02] <admrl> you upgraded
[04:03] <wasp_ems> i have 10mbit connection
[04:03] <wasp_ems> it didnt really have any updates just upgrade
[04:03] <admrl> haha you need to update after you add the repo
[04:04] <admrl> then upgrade
[04:04] <wasp_ems> i did that
[04:04] <wasp_ems> but nothing really was updated from what i saw
[04:04] <wasp_ems> and i tried even now and there is nothing
[04:05] <admrl> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[04:05] <admrl> that line was added to your sources.list
[04:05] <wasp_ems> yep
[04:06] <wasp_ems> ok were can i see what version i have already?
[04:06] <_shane> is there a way in a script to put up a dialog asking a question and act on the answer in the script?
[04:06] <admrl> open up kate and check /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <wasp_ems> when i upgraded it asked me if i wanted to install or not
[04:08] <admrl> you said yes correct..?
[04:08] <wasp_ems> yep
[04:08] <admrl> your using konversation i saw so click the help menu then click about kde or whatever
[04:09] <admrl> that will tell you what version of kde your using
[04:09] <wasp_ems> 3.4.3
[04:09] <wasp_ems> :(
[04:09] <admrl> ya..
[04:09] <admrl> you didnt do it right
[04:09] <admrl> open /etc/apt/sources.list in kate
[04:09] <wasp_ems> i did
[04:10] <admrl> did you see the line..?
[04:10] <admrl> thats not commented
[04:10] <wasp_ems> yes but it has next to what u wrote above breezy main
[04:10] <wasp_ems> and yes there is no #
[04:13] <wasp_ems> any ideas?
[04:13] <admrl> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[04:13] <admrl> it should look just like that
[04:13] <admrl> but i just gotta call and must go for a bit brb
[04:13] <wasp_ems> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[04:14] <wasp_ems> thats is what i have
[04:14] <wasp_ems> okz
[04:24] <wasp_ems> ok be back in a minute..loggin out and in to see
[04:31] <wasp_ems> ok im back
[04:31] <wasp_ems> admrl: now i have 3.5.2
[04:34] <wasp_ems> admrl: thanks allot it should work now
[04:35] <wasp_ems> does anyone know were i can find games and install them having them also in k menu?
[04:52] <wasp_ems> admrl: do u possibly know how i can install games or make wine work wih voipbuster?
[04:52] <wasp_ems> or anyone know how to setup dc++?
[04:53] <wasp_ems> oh and for some reason i cannot see some video files i have..any solutions?
[04:54] <jmarrero> someone knows a nice website were I can download nice videos about linux or nice computher raleted movies?
[05:17] <robotgeek> wasp_ems, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:19] <wasp_ems> robotgeek: thnx
[05:19] <wasp_ems> robotgeek: no that is not what i mean
[05:20] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: okay, what do you mean :)
[05:20] <wasp_ems> i mean that although i have the files i cannot see them in the folder they should be in..whereas in windows i can
[05:20] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: i am not following you. where are the files again?
[05:21] <wasp_ems> i have an external hard drive which i use in windows to store all the files i have...movies music etc...and i have a folder which contains some video files but in linux it seems to have only one file..not the video ones
[05:22] <wasp_ems> any ideas?
[05:22] <robotgeek> jmarrero: yes, to your question in #kubuntu-devel
[05:23] <jmarrero> robotgeek : thankx
[05:23] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: what is the partition method?
[05:23] <wasp_ems> ntfs
[05:23] <jmarrero> robotgeek : u using dapper?
[05:23] <robotgeek> jmarrero: yes
[05:23] <jmarrero> working nice?
[05:23] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: i am not sure, you might want to read something on the wiki
[05:24] <jmarrero> btw : my system is just a multimidia fun and c*ap doing machine by now
[05:24] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell wasp_ems about ntfs
[05:24] <robotgeek> jmarrero: works fine
[05:24] <jmarrero> so no important stuff in it
[05:24] <wasp_ems> thanx but that is not the problem as i can see and play all the rest of my files
[05:24] <jmarrero> nice thinking on installing via esppresso to see the new prosses
[05:24] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: okay, i have no clue :(
[05:24] <wasp_ems> thanx though:)
[05:25] <wasp_ems> any ideas about games etc that i can download?
[05:29] <wasp_ems> ok question
[05:31] <wasp_ems> ok i am so confused now
[05:32] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: ask
[05:32] <wasp_ems> i made a taskbar at the top of my desktop mac style which i cannot find where i made it from and anyway it has taken off my conquer the file, edit, insert etc and has put them there..how can i make them go back?
[05:33] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: there should be a "default" button near all those settings
[05:34] <wasp_ems> i just want that tskbar up there so i can have some applications not the file edit etx
[05:34] <wasp_ems> etc
[05:35] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: right click on the taskbar, then configure panel
[05:35] <Kyral> hehe
[05:35] <Kyral> I set KAlarm as my Alarm Clock
[05:35] <wasp_ems> well there is no configure there
[05:36] <wasp_ems> but i found where i set it up from
[05:36] <Kyral> at 7:45 AM the computer is gonna play the KDE startup theme as loud as possible :P
[05:36] <kosh> my neighbors would complain if I did that
[05:37] <Kyral> Well, not as loud as possible
[05:37] <wasp_ems> ok everything is back as normal.now is there any chance i can make another taskbar but which will only have what i put in it?
[05:37] <regeya> the kde startup sound woudl do it for me...I hate that sound
[05:37] <Kyral> lol
[05:37] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: you acn pretty much controol everything, add another panel maybe
[05:38] <wasp_ems> anyway i am going to bed...got a lecture tomorrow..goodnight and thanx for all the help
[05:39] <robotgeek> wasp_ems: cya later
[05:39] <wsjunior> i'm with ugly fonts even with antialias.. does anybody knows what to do to get better fonts?
[05:39] <Kyral> hmmm
[05:40] <robotgeek> Kyral: someone had done that in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:41] <Kyral> I thought this was allowed to be offtopic....
[05:41] <robotgeek> it looked like 90% XP
[05:41] <Kyral> lol
[05:41] <Kyral> I'd love to do that to my Linux friends
[05:41] <Kyral> "WTF?! YOU CHANGED BACK TO XP?!"
[05:42] <wsjunior> http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2509/uglyfonts4lt.jpg
[05:42] <wsjunior> someone could help me to get better font aspect?
[05:43] <Kyral> I didn't look at the pic
[05:43] <robotgeek> wsjunior: not my strong area, sorry
[05:45] <robotgeek> _root: not a good idea to be on irc as root
[05:45] <Kyral> I think XChat flat out doesn't let you do it
[05:46] <geo-1> nda ada org indonesia di sini ?
[05:54] <Kr4t05> hrm
[05:54] <Kr4t05> Ok
[05:54] <frank23> !id
[05:54] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[06:06] <fatejudger> so has the default Kubuntu Dapper theme been fixed yet?
[06:08] <Kyral> whoa the Universal Taskbar is cool
[06:13] <arn> I'm having an issue with adept updater
[06:13] <arn> it was running an update and seems to be stalled on Removing kdm
[06:13] <fatejudger> arn: how long?
[06:13] <arn> Should I just let it go or kill it?
[06:13] <arn> 15 minutes
[06:14] <fatejudger> arn: you can kill it, you'll just have to apt-get -f install after
[06:14] <arn> The app isn't frozen or anything
[06:15] <arn> I think I could just exit it - but didn't know how it would affect the update
[06:16] <arn> Then again, maybe not :)
[06:17] <arn> what does the -f install do?
[06:17] <Kyral> fix
[06:17] <Kyral> basically
[06:18] <arn> Kyral: then why the install option?
[06:19] <Kyral> uhh
[06:19] <arn> not questioning you, just trying to learn
[06:19] <Kyral> lemme man apt-get for a second :P
[06:19] <arn> since I was doing an update
[06:19] <arn> upgrade sorry
[06:19] <arn> those two terms still get me mixed around
[06:19] <Kyral> -f, --fix-broken Fix;  attempt  to  correct  a system with broken dependencies in place. This option, when used with install/remove, can omit  any packages  to permit APT to deduce a likely solution. Any Package that are specified must completely correct the problem. The  op tion is sometimes necessary when running APT for the first time;
[06:19] <Kyral>  APT itself doesnot allow broken package dependencies  to  exsist on a system. It is possible that a systems dependency structure can be so corrupt as to require manual intervention (which  usu ally  means  using dselect(8) or dpkg --remove to eliminate some of the offending packages). Use of this option together with  -m may  produce  an  error  in some situations. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Fix-Broken.
[06:19] <Kyral> sorry for the paste
[06:20] <arn> k, gonna try it
[06:21] <arn> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:21] <arn> doesn't sound good
[06:22] <robotgeek> arn: just do what apt-get/dpkg tells you, you'll be fine
[06:22] <arn> I did
[06:22] <arn> and it ws
[06:22] <arn> was
[06:23] <arn> apt-get -f install didn't do anything
[06:23] <arn> gonna try an apt-get upgrade
[06:24] <arn> how come apt-get shows a different number of packages to be upgraded than adept did?
[06:24] <arn> thought they looked at the same repositories
[06:24] <arn> adept showed 92 and apt-get 78
[06:27] <frank23> arn adept is probably doing a dist-upgrade and apt-get just an upgrade
[06:28] <frank23> arn dist-upgrade is usually ok. the synaptic "smart upgrade" is a dist-upgrade
[06:34] <ports-> hey
[06:35] <ports-> has anyone installed ms office on kubuntu?
[06:35] <me2win> no
[06:35] <ports-> lol why
[06:35] <me2win> it comes default with open office
[06:35] <me2win> and if you dont like open office
[06:35] <me2win> KOffice is really really nice
[06:35] <fatejudger> KOffice is the best
[06:36] <Kaiser_Sleeps> you need crossover office to be able to use mso
[06:36] <fatejudger> ports-: if there is something that is mission-critical that you absolutely need MS Office for, there are ways of install it
[06:36] <fatejudger> ports-: like Kaiser says, Crossover is the best way to do that
[06:36] <ports-> k
[06:36] <fatejudger> ports-: Crossover costs money though
[06:36] <frank23> ports-: crossover office / wine can run MS Office but I find Open Office great. Never tried Koffice
[06:36] <ports-> the only thing that i need Outlook
[06:36] <fatejudger> ports-: and it's recommented that people use KOffice or something to that effect
[06:36] <ports-> err is Outlook
[06:36] <fatejudger> ports-: try using Kontact
[06:36] <ports-> because im attached to that e-mail database
[06:37] <arn> umm - kinda got broken from my update
[06:37] <fatejudger> ports-: are you sure Kmail doesn't work with outlook database?
[06:37] <fatejudger> ports-: and Crossover doesn't work with Outlook
[06:37] <arn> apt-get tells me that 58 packages were held back from the upgrade
[06:37] <ports-> i havent tried kmail
[06:37] <arn> now kde doesn't work
[06:37] <frank23> arn adept is probably doing a dist-upgrade and apt-get just an upgrade
[06:37] <frank23> arn dist-upgrade is usually ok. the synaptic "smart upgrade" is a dist-upgrade
[06:38] <arn> new problem now though frank23
[06:38] <ports-> Hobbsee:  i got my wireless working
[06:38] <ports-> it was an issue with dhclient....
[06:38] <ports-> it was seeing that my router existed... but it wasnt accepting DHCP from it
[06:38] <Hobbsee> hey
[06:38] <Hobbsee> ah right
[06:38] <Hobbsee> heh great
[06:38] <arn> many of the packages apt-get is holding back are kde packages
[06:39] <arn> I'm figuring that's a good portion of my problem
[06:39] <arn> not sure how to fix though
[06:39] <arn> thought about doing a --force-yes but wasn't sure if there was a better/easier way to remedy this
[06:39] <ports-> Hobbsee:  now to start running kismet and stealing wifi... on campus.. lol
[06:40] <Hobbsee> ports-: breezy, or dapper?  i've forgotten
[06:40] <ports-> breezy
[06:40] <ports-> is dapper 6.0 ?
[06:40] <arn> any one have any suggestions before I break things more? :)
[06:41] <Hobbsee> ports-: 6.06, yeah
[06:41] <Hobbsee> ports-: hmmm...yeah, not sure what the best program is to use for that
[06:41] <ports-> Hobbsee:  ah.. i was readin the kubuntu site a few weeks back and some people had trouble with Dapper.. so i just got Breezy
[06:41] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[06:42] <dyrne> ok this is irritating i have to reset amixer settings everytime i log into kde in dapper or have no sound
[06:42] <dyrne> its a lot to type..
[06:43] <crimsun> not really.
[06:43] <dyrne> ah youre everywhere!
[06:44] <dyrne> :)
[06:44] <crimsun> set your mixer settings as you like, then: sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo alsactl store
[06:44] <crimsun> it should work fine henceforth
[06:44] <dyrne> ok ill give it a try thx
[06:44] <crimsun> if it doesn't, please file a bug on malone against the alsa-utils package
[06:45] <dyrne> ok
[06:45] <wsjunior> hey, i'd like to have that home icon at kicker, how to do that?
[06:45] <ports-> oh thank god~
[06:45] <wsjunior> i want a filemanager like in original kde
[06:47] <wsjunior> does anybody knows how to do that?
[06:48] <arn> original kde?
[06:48] <arn> like kde2 or something?
[06:48] <wsjunior> like kde 3 without mods
[06:48] <wsjunior> do u know that house icon at kicker?
[06:49] <wsjunior> i want that icon with that link
[06:51] <arn> crap, still broken
[06:51] <ports-> fatejudger:  hey
[06:51] <fatejudger> ports-: yes?
[06:52] <Word> Hi, is there a history of Gaim causing Kubuntu to crash? there seems to be a pattern with my use of Gaim and Kubuntu locking up..
[06:52] <ports-> fatejudger:  Kmail is an extra app... beyond what Kontact does right?
[06:52] <arn> ok, totally just broke kde
[06:52] <arn> can't start kde
[06:52] <arn> can login to failsafe is all
[06:52] <fatejudger> ports-: Kmail is part of the Kontact suite of applications I believe
[06:53] <frank23> wsjunior: you have konqueror look like in other distros?
[06:53] <ports-> fatejudger:  ok... it showed up as an upgradeable component in Adept
[06:54] <wsjunior> frank23: yes, i want
[06:54] <wsjunior> just the filemanager
[06:54] <fatejudger> Word: you might want to try Kopete
[06:54] <fatejudger> Word: it's a native KDE app just like Gaim
[06:54] <fatejudger> Word: quite a bit nicer looking IMO
[06:55] <ports-> Word Kopete crashes in Breezy as soon as you get signed on...
[06:55] <frank23> wsjunior: I'm not sure how to do it but you need to choose the default profile.  kubuntu uses profiles that are different from the kde default
[06:55] <Word> Ok, I'll restart with a new session so gaim doesn't open up and see if while using Kopete there isn't a problem. Hopefully I'll be coming back using the IRC in Kbuutnu. :D
[06:55] <ports-> Word: but if you install Gaim from Adept on Breezy it works fine
[06:55] <Hobbsee> ports-: which version of kopete?
[06:55] <Word> Oh?
[06:55] <fatejudger> ports-: Koepte shouldn't crash
[06:55] <fatejudger> *Kopete
[06:55] <ports-> it dies
[06:55] <ports-> on me
[06:55] <Hobbsee> which versoin?
[06:55] <fatejudger> ports-: that's not normal
[06:56] <Word> What IS normal? :P
[06:56] <ports-> 4.3.4.3
[06:56] <arn> rebooting - not holding out much hope
[06:56] <fatejudger> Word: I've used Kopete since Breezy
[06:56] <fatejudger> Word: it works great
[06:56] <fatejudger> Word: never crashes
[06:56] <Hobbsee> ports-: ah ok
[06:56] <ports-> fatejudger:  apparently iti s... im running the Kopete off of the Breezy install cd
[06:56] <fatejudger> ports-: then upgrade to the newer version of KDE
[06:56] <Word> Alright, I'll see how this goes be back in a few.
[06:56] <ports-> k
[06:56] <fatejudger> ports-: they have KDE 3.5.2 out now
[06:56] <ports-> whats new in the "new" kde?
[06:57] <fatejudger> ports-: bug fixes and upgrades
[06:57] <ports-> k
[06:57] <fatejudger> ports-: KHTML is much faster
[06:57] <fatejudger> ports-: performance things
[06:57] <fatejudger> ports-: it's a great upgrade
[06:57] <fatejudger> ports-: UI changes
[06:57] <Hobbsee> yeah, kde 3.4.3 would never connect kopete for me - not sure why
[06:58] <ports-> k
[06:58] <fatejudger> 3.4.3 was crappy
[06:58] <fatejudger> well
[06:58] <Hobbsee> havent used it for ages though, so...
[06:58] <fatejudger> buggy
[06:58] <ports-> where do i get the new KDE
[06:58] <fatejudger> ports-: www.kubuntu.org
[06:58] <ports-> i see a lot of extra packages on Adept i dont need
[06:59] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[06:59] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[06:59] <frank23> ports-: I had no problems with kde 3.5.1 but there is a problem with kde 3.5.2: you can't change resolution with kde.  You might want to use kde 3.5.1 instead of the latest
[06:59] <ports-> k
[06:59] <ports-> next question
[06:59] <ports-> on Kubuntu.org there is supposed to be an html bar that goes across the top
[07:00] <ports-> in Konuerer.. i only see a text list.... thats bad... what component am i missing?
[07:02] <solo> hello, anyone can help to configure my wireless?
[07:02] <Hobbsee> !wifi
[07:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:02] <solo> I checked there
[07:03] <solo> as my wireless card had no driver for linux
[07:03] <ports-> solo you might be able to use ndiswrapper
[07:03] <solo> I used ndiswrapper to wrap my windows driver
[07:04] <solo> and now ndiswrapper tell me there is a module sis163u installed
[07:04] <arn> and you did a modprobe ndiswrapper?
[07:04] <solo> then I depmod -a
[07:04] <solo> and modprobe
[07:05] <ports-> frank23:  what do i need to download?
[07:05] <solo> I can even see wlan0 using iwconfig
[07:05] <frank23> solo: that's good. the hardware part seems to be working
[07:06] <frank23> ports-: for what? kde 3.5.1?
[07:06] <ports-> yeah
[07:06] <solo> yeah, then I cant do dhclient wlan0
[07:06] <frank23> !kde3.5.1
[07:06] <ubotu> frank23: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:06] <ports-> solo and whats "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" get
[07:06] <ports-> !kde
[07:06] <ubotu> kde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:07] <word> Hmm...
[07:07] <word> well it seems that Gaim wasn't the problem
[07:07] <frank23> ports-: go here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[07:08] <word> I turned it off logged out to save it in the session went back in and when i started flipping through the K menu it crashed.
[07:08] <ports-> Word ah
[07:08] <frank23> ports-: the resolution thing in kde 3.5.2 is annoying but 3.5.1 worked perfectly for me
[07:08] <solo> frank23: how to configure /etc/network/interfaces  properly?
[07:08] <word> Is there any reason that navigating the K menu should cause a problem?
[07:09] <frank23> solo: I just used the system settings network config tool
[07:09] <word> Also, I shut down Akregator just to be safe aand it seems that I don't have a problem anymore :-/ Could it have been that?
[07:10] <solo> I cant use root on that tool?
[07:10] <solo> dont let me change any thing
[07:10] <word> fatefudger left >< the only one who knew a lot ><
[07:11] <frank23> solo: you mean go to administrator doesnt work?
[07:11] <word> Yay, fatejudger um, has Akregator been known to cause problems when navigating the K menu?
[07:12] <word> Because shutting down Gaim didn't seem to have an effect but shutting down akregator looks like it fixed the crashing problem
[07:12] <fatejudger> word: don't know
[07:12] <solo> tell you what I dont even have adminisrator to choose from
[07:12] <fatejudger> word: I use the latest KDE in Dapper, so it might be different for you
[07:12] <word> Theres an update for Akregator lol...that might fix it ;)
[07:12] <frank23> solo: you system-settings->Network Config-> you dont see administrator mode on the bottom?
[07:13] <solo> if you mean settings, yes, i cant modify network setting
[07:13] <word> How stable is Dapper right now fatejudger?
[07:13] <fatejudger> word: just as stable as Breezy IMO
[07:13] <me2win> word: pretty stable
[07:13] <fatejudger> word: maybe even more
[07:13] <frank23> solo: can you activate administrator mode?
[07:14] <fatejudger> things WILL break every so often though
[07:14] <me2win> fatejudger: my kdesu konqueror finally works :P
[07:14] <fatejudger> config files get get reset
[07:14] <fatejudger> me2win: lol
[07:14] <fatejudger> me2win: that's worked for weeks for me
[07:14] <me2win> fatejudger: yeh i know
[07:14] <me2win> UberUser: tell fatejudger about porterhouse steaks
[07:14] <word> Is Konquerer upgraded to support ajax etc. in Dapper?
[07:14] <me2win> ubotu: : tell fatejudger about porterhouse steaks
[07:14] <me2win> lol
[07:14] <fatejudger> it doesn't work that way
[07:15] <fatejudger> you'd have to say
[07:15] <robotgeek> word: it works even in breezy
[07:15] <fatejudger> porterhousesteaks is such and such
[07:15] <word> Really? What functionality is it missing for google then? o.O
[07:15] <me2win> fatejudger: I know, I was just telling ubotu to tell you about them even though i KNOW ubotu doesnt know about them
[07:15] <word> Gmail*
[07:16] <robotgeek> word: gmail, try using with safari browser identification
[07:16] <word> Actually, it's probably more that Google doesn't have it on it's list of browsers that support it's scripting so it defaults to the html version...
[07:16] <fatejudger> robotgeek: firefox
[07:16] <me2win> firefox FTW
[07:16] <fatejudger> robotgeek: safari identification doesn't work
[07:16] <robotgeek> fatejudger: he is on breezy
[07:16] <fatejudger> robotgeek: I know
[07:16] <robotgeek> http://mail.google.com/mail/?nocherowser or use that :)
[07:17] <robotgeek> http://mail.google.com/mail/?nocheckbrowser
[07:17] <ports-> frank23:  ok i added the new repos
[07:17] <word> The second link makes more sense lol ;)
[07:17] <cptn_morgan> how do i check what version of KDE i'm running?
[07:18] <frank23> ports-: you can use adept to do the upgrade then.
[07:18] <robotgeek> i think i found a bug in screen :)
[07:18] <frank23> cptn_morgan: any help->about kde
[07:18] <ports-> frank23:  what packages do i get
[07:18] <frank23> ports-: just do "full upgrade" then check preview upgrade to make sure it makes sense
[07:19] <ports-> bah
[07:19] <ports-> too much to look through
[07:19] <ports-> Full Upgrade and wish me luck
[07:20] <word> lol, i was going through and individually clicking them and i g uess i accidently installed 3 new ones too heh
[07:20] <ports-> well that didnt work
[07:20] <word> commit changes then
[07:20] <_solo> hello, frank23 are you still there?
[07:21] <frank23> ports-: just as long as you don't uninstall your whole system. people have done that with adept by mistake because they didn't check the preview changes
[07:21] <frank23> _solo: not for long...
[07:21] <ports-> lol
[07:21] <_solo> so, I tried to setup in the tool
[07:21] <ports-> frank23:  uninstall it all?
[07:22] <_solo> but still I cant get any wireless detected
[07:22] <word> Ha, using the partitioner was such a pain on 2 hours sleep...the 10 minutes or so would between actions would just fly by and before I knew it I had to go to school ><
[07:22] <cptn_morgan> how do i upgrade to KDE 3.5?
[07:22] <frank23> cptn_morgan: just ask your questions in the main channel
[07:22] <_solo> and also tried KwifiManager to search
[07:23] <ports-> this is gunna take forever
[07:23] <ports-> im getting a lot of updates for breezy
[07:23] <word> What are you on dial up?
[07:23] <frank23> ports-: yeah some package with strange dependancies remove kdelibs for example and they don't notice
[07:23] <frank23> ports-: I hope you have a good connection ;)
[07:23] <frank23> good night all
[07:23] <word> G
[07:23] <ports-> frank campus dorm
[07:23] <word> G'nite*
[07:23] <_solo> Good night
[07:24] <cptn_morgan> frank, is there a specific spot i should ask about upgrading KDE?
[07:24] <frank23> cptn_morgan: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php or http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[07:24] <_solo> cptn_morgan: dont you just do that by sudo apt-get install kde?
[07:25] <cptn_morgan> _solo i have no idea what you just said...
[07:26] <_solo> sory, I mean you can upgrade kde by typing "sudo apt-get ..."
[07:27] <frank23> cptn_morgan: _solo: that's not how to do it. installing  the kde package would install a whole lot of kde apps. many more than are in kubuntu by default
[07:32] <pradeepto> robotgeek: yo!
[07:33] <robotgeek> hey pradeepto , morning
[07:33] <pradeepto> robotgeek: evening :)
[07:33] <robotgeek> :)
[07:34] <pradeepto> robotgeek: you really need to work on those channel auto join thing :P
[07:35] <robotgeek> pradeepto: just quit my screen
[07:35] <cptn_morgan> frank
[07:35] <pradeepto> w00t the k3b horn!!!
[07:35] <cptn_morgan> can you talk to me in pm?
[07:37] <pradeepto> robotgeek: btw somebody was asking if easyubuntu works on kubuntu or not.
[07:38] <pradeepto> you were away at that time
[07:38] <robotgeek> pradeepto: not yet. shortly.
[07:38] <pradeepto> more power to you
[07:39] <cptn_morgan> i can upgrade all the KDE componants from Adept right?
[07:39] <patrix> heyyyy
[07:39] <patrix> after 2 weeks dabbling with GNOME, I'm back to KDE! ;) ;) ;)
[07:39] <patrix> and its' good to be back ;)
[07:39] <pradeepto> patrix: yo there
[07:39] <pradeepto> cptn_morgan: yes you can
[07:40] <patrix> although now I'll have a few issues to fix, such as kdm not logigng me in, konversation nto showing nick changes, etc
[07:40] <patrix> but that's for later
[07:40] <_solo> anyone can help me to get wireless??
[07:41] <_solo> I configured the ndiswrapper correctly
[07:41] <cptn_morgan> all i have to do is follow this: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php right?
[07:41] <_solo> but using dhclient wlan0, I just cant find the network
[07:42] <pradeepto> cptn_morgan: yup
[07:42] <robotgeek> _solo: iwconfig scan wlan0
[07:43] <robotgeek> _solo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:43] <_solo> I tried there
[07:43] <_solo> said unrecognized request 'wlan0'
[07:44] <_solo> is that mean wlan is not setuped properly?
[07:44] <cptn_morgan> when i tell adept which packages to upgrade, it says: BREAK (upgrade)
[07:44] <robotgeek> _solo: okay, iwconfig wlan0 scan
[07:44] <robotgeek> cptn_morgan: probably it means that it will break your system :)
[07:45] <cptn_morgan> that doesn't sound good :-\
[07:45] <robotgeek> cptn_morgan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:46] <pradeepto> robotgeek: what does "Install in OEM mode" mean?
[07:48] <robotgeek> pradeepto: after installation, it asks to enter your details and stuff
[07:49] <pradeepto> like what?
[07:49] <robotgeek> pradeepto: username, password and other details probably. so that vendor can install it for you, and you enter the rest
[07:49] <aw> hi all... i just installed kubunto, and it's pretty nice... the only thing is that if i switch to ctrl-alt-f1, i get a never ending warning of: Incompatible medium installed. Failed reading Cd/Dvd capacity... there is no media in cddrive
[07:49] <pradeepto> hmmmm
[07:52] <aw> it si so bad that this 2gig 3700+ amd 64 is starting to really slow down now
[07:54] <aw> anyone?
[07:54] <Kyral> zzz
[07:56] <aw> k.. .i'll try again tomorrow... ty!
[08:08] <pradeepto> arn: ?
[08:08] <arn> yes
[08:08] <pradeepto> suggest  me some cool host names
[08:09] <arn> lol
[08:09] <pradeepto> for my new kubuntu box
[08:09] <arn> I named mine bochs
[08:22] <arn> alright pradeepto - my sleep time now
[08:22] <pradeepto> arn: good night buddy
[08:22] <arn> gn
[08:25] <ports-> hrm
[08:25] <ports-> i wonder if its done
[08:27] <ports-> hrm
[08:27] <ports-> i ran Adept and did a full upgrade for KDE
[08:27] <ports-> but About KDE still says 3.4.3
[08:29] <pradeepto> ports-: you didnot reboot did you?
[08:30] <ports-> nope
[08:30] <ports-> i cant just take down KDE and reload it?
[08:31] <pradeepto> ports-: reboot please :)
[08:31] <ports-> pradeepto:  lol ok
[08:32] <ports-> once KOffice is done i will
[08:32] <ports-> im really liking Adept
[08:32] <pradeepto> ports-: I hope you are installing KOffice 1.5RC1
[08:34] <ports-> erm
[08:34] <ports-> whatevers on Adept
[08:42] <ankur> pradeepto: it didnt work
[08:42] <ports-> KDE still reports 3.4.3
[08:42] <pradeepto> ports-: did it download anything in first place
[08:42] <ports-> lol
[08:42] <ports-> it spent half an hour downloading
[08:43] <robotgeek> ports-: did you restart kde
[08:43] <pradeepto> robotgeek: he rebooted back to
[08:43] <pradeepto> too
[08:44] <ports-> yes
[08:44] <robotgeek> hmm, weird
[08:44] <pradeepto> I am guessing he didnot change the links in the sources.list perhaps
[08:44] <ports-> eh i did
[08:45] <pradeepto> ports-: what did you change?
[08:45] <ports-> i added in the repos from the announce page
[08:47] <ports-> ill try again
[08:47] <pradeepto> ports-: did you sudo apt-get update/ fetch updates after that
[08:48] <ports-> i added the deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main   to Adept
[08:48] <pradeepto> and then
[08:48] <ports-> Fetch Updates, Full Upgrade.. Preview Changes... looked at all the packages for KDE it added...  Commit Changes
[08:48] <pradeepto> ports btw you might change that to kde352
[08:49] <ports-> ah someone told me to use 3.5.1
[08:49] <ports-> they had issues with 3.5.2
[08:49] <pradeepto> what issues?
[08:49] <pradeepto> I am using 3.5.2? I think so is robotgeek
[08:49] <pradeepto> and many others
[08:50] <robotgeek> i had one minor glitch, but it went away
[08:51] <wsjunior> does anybody here run teamspeak on kubuntu?
[08:52] <ports-> hrm i cant find it now
[08:52] <ports-> but it was frank23
[08:52] <pradeepto> never mind that ports-
[08:52] <ports-> he had trouble with 3.5.2 so he reverted to 3.5.1
[08:52] <morzel> hi
[08:52] <ports-> 70% done downloading updates for KDE 3.5.1
[08:52] <ports-> we'll see if it works this time
[08:54] <ports-> pradeepto: whats different about the new version of Koffice?
[08:54] <pradeepto> that depends which version you are using
[08:54] <ports-> k
[08:54] <ports-> !koffice
[08:54] <ubotu> KOffice is a free, integrated office suite for KDE. Included is word processing, spreadsheet, flowcharting, image manipulation applications and many more. See http://koffice.kde.org
[08:55] <ports-> great
[08:55] <ports-> konquerer wont launch
[08:55] <ports-> thank god i have firefox
[08:58] <ports-> pradeepto:  ok Adept says its done
[08:58] <ports-> now do i just reboot
[08:59] <robotgeek> ports-: just restart kde, no need to reboot
[08:59] <ports-> how do i do that
[08:59] <pradeepto> robotgeek: I have seen it doesnot work that way.
[08:59] <zaba_> ports-: end session then start new
[08:59] <robotgeek> pradeepto: really, it worked for me?
[09:00] <pradeepto> I had to rebook my laptop for everything to be *proper*
[09:00] <pradeepto> after a dist-upgrade that is
[09:01] <robotgeek> pradeepto: i don't think i've rebooted my laptop since i upgraded to kde 3.5.2 , rebooting is not a solution in linux
[09:01] <kpaolo> pradeepto: this is my third time...
[09:02] <kpaolo> this time i'm going to keep dapper save for almost a week...
[09:02] <kpaolo> will i manage???
[09:03] <pradeepto> kpaolo: what? come again?
[09:03] <kpaolo> yeah
[09:03] <kpaolo> last time (yesterday) i've installed the new fglrx drivers
[09:04] <kpaolo> in spite i had the direct rendering yet..
[09:04] <kpaolo> so...as it usually does with me...X died again...
[09:06] <Red_Herring> heh... fglrx sucks
[09:06] <ankur> hey it worked
[09:06] <pradeepto> kpaolo: sorry dude cant be of much help on that
[09:07] <Red_Herring> is it possible to OD on altoids?
[09:07] <kpaolo> hiihihih...this time i feel lucky
[09:07] <wsjunior> could anybody help me with teamspeak? it's a voip program like skype but it uses oss. doesnt work with alsa or esound. it worked with ubuntu, but it isnt working with kubuntu and a don't know why. as i said it uses oss. i can hear people talkin but can't speak. does anybody knows anything about it? using mic to talk by oss?
[09:07] <Red_Herring> wsjunior: teamspeak isnt for linux... or so i thought
[09:07] <pradeepto> ports-: good
[09:07] <Red_Herring> you using WINE for it?
[09:07] <wsjunior> no
[09:07] <Red_Herring> hmm...
[09:07] <wsjunior> there's a linux client
[09:08] <wsjunior> and server too
[09:08] <Red_Herring> well, Ubuntu uses OSS whereas Kubuntu and KDE uses aRTs
[09:08] <ports-> pradeepto:  where do i access the startup script from
[09:08] <Red_Herring> so theres the problem
[09:08] <wsjunior> http://www.goteamspeak.com/
[09:08] <wsjunior> i killed artsd and esd
[09:08] <Red_Herring> hrm
[09:08] <wsjunior> i can hear the people talking
[09:08] <Red_Herring> did you configure your mic right?
[09:08] <wsjunior> but nobody can hear me
[09:08] <Red_Herring> like i said
[09:08] <wsjunior> yes, the mic works with skype
[09:08] <Red_Herring> did you configure your mic using KDE?
[09:08] <Red_Herring> hrm
[09:09] <Red_Herring> did you compile it?
[09:09] <wsjunior> there's nothing to configure the mic. just plugged and it works.
[09:09] <wsjunior> what?
[09:09] <wsjunior> teamspeak?
[09:09] <Red_Herring> hrm...
[09:09] <Red_Herring> yea
[09:10] <wsjunior> no i used the teamspeak installer
[09:10] <ports-> pradeepto:  where do i access the startup script from
[09:10] <wsjunior> see, it works with ubuntu. the same package, same installation.
[09:10] <pradeepto> what/which startup script
[09:10] <Red_Herring> wsjunior: i would look in their help forums, because it appears the problem is with teamspeak
[09:10] <wsjunior> i did.
[09:11] <ports-> pradeepto:  i want to add the commands to initialize ndiswrapper, and dhclient to boot
[09:11] <wsjunior> it's a problem with some package to talk using oss
[09:11] <wsjunior> dunno which one
[09:11] <Red_Herring> hrm
[09:11] <Red_Herring> lemme check
[09:12] <kpaolo> hey..am i the one who has the 3D Accell by default??? [pool] 
[09:13] <ports-> pradeepto:  i want to add the commands to initialize ndiswrapper, and dhclient to boot
[09:14] <|epineph|> this is not fun.
[09:15] <Red_Herring> wsjunior: grrrr... this livecd sucks, sorry, i cant find any
[09:18] <Red_Herring> wsjunior: come back later, im sure someone here knows, just not me
[09:18] <wsjunior> Red_Herring: ok, thanks anyways.
[09:19] <wsjunior> i found this -> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Sound
[09:21] <Red_Herring> wsjunior: wow... did you try it yet?
[09:22] <pradeepto> ports-: sorry mate I am not sure about that. please somebody else about that.
[09:22] <wsjunior> i'm reading it right now
[09:22] <ports-> you edit etc/modules
[09:22] <pradeepto> thanks so that was quiz? :P
[09:22] <ports-> no
[09:22] <ports-> i just found the answer
[09:23] <pradeepto> heh ok
[09:25] <ankur> it worked
[09:25] <ports-> just add the commands you want to run  to /etc/modules
[09:26] <pradeepto> ok
[09:26] <sredna> Hello
[09:27] <pradeepto> hello sredna
[09:27] <sredna> I have a problem with printing, when I try to add a printer I get an error message about a connection errer with the cups server
[09:27] <sredna> (using dapper)
[09:31] <ports-> sredna:  have you looked in te forums/
[09:31] <sredna> ports-: No
[09:31] <sredna> Let me try that
[09:32] <ports-> because im new to Kubuntu too
[09:32] <ports-> and im findin the kubuntu/ubuntu forums really useful
[09:32] <Red_Herring> its a great place to go
[09:32] <Red_Herring> we need to make it more accessable under kubuntu
[09:34] <sredna> I'm not the biggest fan of web forumns
[09:34] <sredna> It is very time consuming to pull informatino out of them
[09:35] <ports-> sredna:  not really
[09:35] <ports-> you need to learn how to use Google and Forum searches
[09:35] <epinephrine> ok, bugger it
[09:35] <epinephrine> on the laptop gos kubuntu!
[09:35] <epinephrine> goes too
[09:37] <sredna> ports-: It's still a lot of reading to find a thread that is relevant, and even then it's not nessecarily a help
[09:39] <sredna> Like here, something that looked relevant isn't
[09:39] <ports-> lol
[09:39] <ports-> sredna:  find it yourself
[09:40] <sredna> ports-: The idea of this channel is that I can ask a question and someone might know an answer. So leave me alone if you don't
[09:40] <ports-> no one else answered.. i told you where to find help
[09:40] <sredna> Bah
[09:41] <ports-> lol
[09:41] <pradeepto> ports-: honestly that was't funny at all
[09:43] <ports-> pradeepto: i have an odd sense of humor
[09:43] <ports-> i asked a question.  you didnt know the answer.
[09:43] <ports-> i didnt get mad at you.. i read the forums and found it
[09:43] <ports-> sredna just wanted someone else to do the work
[09:44] <pradeepto> ports-: are you sure about that?
[09:44] <ports-> pradeepto:  ive been working in help channels for 10 years...
[09:45] <pradeepto> have you ever considered that fact that he might have had a genuine case and was not a foobar guy asking for help
[09:45] <ports-> i didnt say fubar
[09:45] <pradeepto> perhaps could have been a core kde developer who might have had some real issues
[09:45] <robotgeek> ports-: if you can help
[09:46] <pradeepto> guess what ports- he was a core kde developer
[09:46] <ports-> http://www.mepis.org/node/8963 <- similar issue.
[09:46] <ports-> his issue was with the hosts file being damaged.
[09:48] <robotgeek> ports-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules
[09:51] <ports-> pradeepto:  a core developer eh.
[09:55] <pradeepto> ports-: any reason you dont believe that
[09:56] <danimo> does anyone know the archive that references network-manager-kde? (aka knetworkmanager)
[09:57] <robotgeek> ports-: look at his host mask
[09:57] <pradeepto> yo! danimo
[09:57] <ports-> pradeepto:  it doesnt make a difference if i do or dont
[09:57] <robotgeek> danimo: kubuntu.no-ip.org ?
[09:57] <pradeepto> ports-: I will not debate with you on this topic, as robotgeek pointed out look at his host mask
[09:58] <robotgeek> ports-: anyways, please refrain from being rude with people
[09:58] <danimo> robotgeek: just found it, tnx
[09:58] <danimo> heya pradeepto
[10:00] <ports-> lol ok
[10:01] <pradeepto> ports-: I will save you the trouble of doing a search, anders is a kate developer :)
[10:01] <pradeepto> danimo: how is it going?
[10:02] <danimo> pradeepto: quite good :)
[10:02] <ports-> Anders Lund
[10:02] <pradeepto> yes
[10:02] <ports-> pradeepto looked it up a while ago :)
[10:02] <pradeepto> good to know ports-
[10:02] <ports-> thats why i said it didnt matter. whether i believe in reality or not doesnt mean that getting hit with a baseball bat wouldnt hurt.
[10:04] <pradeepto> that was too long a sentence for me to comprehend :(
[10:05] <ports-> lol
[10:05] <ports-> kids these days,,,, short attentions spans :P
[10:09] <ports-> hrm i knew i forgot to install something. gcc :)
[10:10] <pradeepto> short attentions spans eh? :P
[10:11] <ports-> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:11] <robotgeek> ports-: build-essential
[10:16] <ports-> build-essential?
[10:18] <ports-> yikes
[10:18] <ports-> ive sent a lot of time on this tonight
[10:26] <simian__> is there a program for kde to convert ogg to mp3
[10:26] <simian__> because my wifes just bought me an mp3 player and it can't play ogg :(
[10:28] <robotgeek> simian__: should be possible, i am not sure if there is gui program
[10:30] <robotgeek> simian__: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12608
[10:31] <robotgeek> simian__: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=25766
[10:31] <simian__> robotgeek: thanks i'll take a look
[10:31] <FallenHitokiri> for what exactly do i need skim / scim?
[10:31] <robotgeek> FallenHitokiri: if you need to type non-latin characters
[10:31] <FallenHitokiri> robotgeek: that's everything?
[10:32] <robotgeek> FallenHitokiri: i guess so :)
[10:32] <mindspin> Hi, when I download large files or browse a network drive in Konqueror, my networking stops and randomly the whole system seem to "freeze" any ideas?
[10:33] <FallenHitokiri> robotgeek: thanks...
[10:33] <Sp4rKy> hi
[10:34] <Sp4rKy> how must i set the QTDIR var please ?
[10:34] <simian__> neither audiokonverter or pac are available on adept, that means i'll have to get my hands dirty
[10:37] <pradeepto> Sp4rKy: export QTDIR="/path/to/qt"
[10:37] <pradeepto> assuming you are on bash
[10:37] <pradeepto> or else use setenv
[10:41] <Sp4rKy> ok , i'm asking about the location, but i've found it :)
[10:41] <Sp4rKy> thx
[10:54] <pulsar_> Hallo!
[10:56] <pulsar_> Anyone using KMail? It's awfully slow here. :(:
[11:10] <JakubS> i'm using kmail, works ok for me
[11:11] <kakalto> !dapper
[11:11] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[11:12] <pulsar_> JakubS: Well, I think it's slow... It takes 2 minutes to fetch 40 mails from local Maildir.
[11:13] <JakubS> hm,
[11:13] <JakubS> definitely slow
[11:13] <JakubS> it takes several seconds at most to go into local maildir containing 15,000 messages
[11:14] <FallenHitokiri> i just setup dapper with kmail and 6 imap-accounts. works really fine and fast
[11:14] <JakubS> with imap all stuff is stored on server, right?
[11:15] <kosh> hmm I have never seen it that slow
[11:15] <JakubS> pulsar_: does it take all CPU while fetching messages
[11:15] <JakubS> ?
[11:15] <kosh> I have some maildir folders with 50K messages in them that only take a second or so to load up
[11:15] <pulsar_> Well, I think I found the problem... It's bogofilter.
[11:16] <FallenHitokiri> JakubS: yes
[11:18] <_nelson> need help with kubuntu ???
[11:18] <_nelson> need help with kubuntu
[11:19] <pulsar_> _nelson: What is your problem?
[11:23] <fatejudger> is there a way to share directories between users?
[11:28] <_harm> Any ideas how to enable transparency and other goodies on my windows?
[11:29] <pulsar_> _harm: Well, you need to enable Composite Extensions on the X-Server and then enable Transparency in KWin.
[11:31] <[Nige] > hi all
[11:31] <[Nige] > I upgraded to dapper last night but have now lost my x display
[11:32] <me2win> [Nige] : it was a bad dist-upgrade, many of us lost machines to it
[11:32] <[Nige] > ahh any way to fix?
[11:32] <[Nige] > or do I have to rebuild?
[11:33] <me2win> [Nige] : I had to reinstall completely, but I am not sure about other people
[11:33] <_harm> pulsar i tried doing that but now i get two errors at startup saying it crashed and quit
[11:33] <me2win> you may want to check in #ubuntu
[11:33] <pulsar_> _harm: What graphics driver do you use? ATI cards are known to work bad with composite extensions.
[11:33] <_nelson> I need to change the layout of my keyboard to US with dead keys, how can I do that ???
[11:34] <_harm> pulsar ATI :S
[11:35] <[Nige] > my ati works okay
[11:35] <_harm> pulsar should i update the drivers for my card?
[11:35] <[Nige] > untill i want to install things
[11:35] <[Nige] > or update the drivers
[11:35] <[Nige] > :)
[11:36] <pulsar_> _harm: Well, I think you have to live without transparency so far. :)
[11:36] <pulsar_> Currently, ATI drivers only support *either* composite or 3d acceleration.
[11:36] <_harm> pulsar =X o well its not that great *cries*
[11:36] <pulsar_> And they support composite quite badly. :)
[11:37] <pulsar_> _harm: If you need some really cool eye candy, look out for Xgl.
[11:37] <_nelson> I need to change the layout of my keyboard to US with dead keys, how can I do that ???
[11:37] <_harm> pulsar well i just like pretty things :P
[11:38] <_nelson> I need to change the layout of my keyboard to US with dead keys, how can I do that ???
[11:39] <pulsar_> _nelson: There is a "intl"-Variant which seems to do that.
[11:39] <pulsar_> _harm: Xgl works quite well here on my ATI card, but it doesn't work quite well with KDE. :/
[11:40] <_harm> pulsar .. i have everything that doesnt work well :P
[11:41] <_harm> pulsar but dang i (L) KDE .. gnome is like not fun for me.. ad konqeurer is awsome and konversation is nice and yah iam happy
[11:41] <pulsar_> _harm: Then get a nvidia card. ;-p
[11:42] <_harm> pulsar since when do people who run linux have cash in overflow.. i have a radeon 9200 which i traded for a stolen bike
[11:43] <pulsar_> lol
[11:44] <pulsar_> Live with it. Or wait for better Xgl support.
[11:45] <pulsar_> There's a nice live cd out there. Maybe you want to have a look at that. :) It's called Kororaa.
[11:47] <_harm> well i have a small linux ToDo list i wanne finsh: right now iam at MSN+Webcam
[11:47] <_harm> and i just finished bittorent
[11:49] <pulsar_> :)
[11:50] <_harm> can u send a screensoht of ur desktop 2 me?
[11:54] <pulsar_> _harm: I neither use transparency nor Xgl. :)
[11:54] <_harm> the only thing i miss about windows is my uber bittorent settup
[11:57] <robewald> hi, is there some way of sniffing the data that goes between a process and the serial port?
[12:15] <] Anjo[> How many CDs is Kubuntu?
[12:16] <gsasha__> Anjo: one, the rest you d/l
[12:17] <] Anjo[> Cool.
[12:18] <gsasha__> robewald: yes, it's actually quite easy. You link the process with your own version of open, which, if that's /dev/ttyS*, will store its output to file.
[12:20] <] Anjo[> gsasha__: Does KDE comes with Ubuntu?
[12:26] <gsasha__> Anjo: er, what????
[12:27] <zaba_> ] Anjo[: Kubuntu comes with KDE
[12:49] <] Anjo[> What is the diference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> ] Anjo[: Kubuntu uses KDE
[12:50] <] Anjo[> Cool.
[12:50] <] Anjo[> And Ubuntu Gnome?
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> correct
[12:52] <wsjunior> i'm trying to install mysql-server 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 but i'm getting MD5 incorret with every repositorie, what could be happening?
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> wsjunior: which ones are you trying?
[12:52] <wsjunior> hold on
[12:53] <wsjunior> Kamping_Kaiser: http://pastebin.com/632363
[12:54] <wsjunior> Kamping_Kaiser: i tried others but still get the same error
[12:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> wsjunior: can you attach the output when you 'sudo apt-get update'? the actual md5 errors is what I'm after as well
[12:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> [hi raphink
[12:56] <raphink> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[12:58] <wsjunior> Kamping_Kaiser: http://pastebin.com/632370 ?
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> that looks right
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> (not that i read br. )
[01:01] <wsjunior> ya, it seems to be allright but i get md5sum error :/
[01:01] <Jrwa> good morning all
[01:01] <wsjunior> morning
[01:01] <robewald> gsasha__: how do I do that?
[01:02] <Jrwa> I've come because a problem is driving me crazy on my kubuntu dapper
[01:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> gday Jrwa
[01:02] <robewald> gsasha__: I don't have access to the binary
[01:02] <robewald> gsasha__: no source I mean
[01:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> wsjunior: so you get md5 erros when installing?
[01:02] <Jrwa> My X server is using the 41% of my 1Gb Ram. Is there a known bug that's causing that?
[01:02] <wsjunior> Kamping_Kaiser: just with that package
[01:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> wsjunior: hm
[01:03] <wsjunior> odd
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> Jrwa: i havent seen that problem before that i can remember
[01:03] <Jrwa> here's my free and ps aux outputs, if it helps... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/632380
[01:04] <Jrwa> I guess the X may use about the 15% only
[01:04] <Jrwa> kde starts up with over 750 mb of ram used. then it grows slowly up to 920, and the pc freezes
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> Jrwa: opening top, then using 'm' to sort by memeory useage would be better i expect
[01:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. 44%
[01:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> Jrwa: do you have swap?
[01:05] <Jrwa> nope
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> so when the memeory fills it crashes (perhaps)
[01:06] <Jrwa> but I thought that shouldn't make much trouble
[01:06] <Jrwa> yeah, that's it.
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> Jrwa: can you look in launchpad for a bug against this problem?
[01:06] <gsasha__> robewald: google for "vsound recorder". It's a program that captures sound I/O of a program with this trick. I used it nicely for Skype
[01:07] <Jrwa> Kamping_Kaiser, I'm on it (sorry bout that :) )
[01:07] <robewald> gsasha__: thanks
[01:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Jrwa: np. good luck in your search ;)
[01:08] <nlindblad> yay!
[01:08] <nlindblad> Kaiser Chiefs
[01:09] <v3nUs> helloouwww
[01:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> robewald: what do you want to do? record conversations, or data to serial?
[01:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi v3nUs
[01:10] <wsjunior> Kamping_Kaiser: it worked with a .de rep. lol :)
 cool
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:11] <robewald> Kamping_Kaiser: record conversations
[01:11] <Jrwa> Kamping_Kaiser, there's an unconfirmed bug... just another guy with the same problem: over 440mb of ram used by xorg
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> robewald: IIRC gizmo has an option, if your using sip
[01:12] <Jrwa> I wonder if there's a way to install a working version of xorg
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> Jrwa: add acomment, with some info about your system
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> Jrwa: and you can confirm it if you want
[01:13] <robewald> Kamping_Kaiser: no, sorry my mistake, data conversations on the serial port, like sent raw data and recieved raw data on the ttyS*
[01:13] <Jrwa> ok that
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> robewald: ah ok.
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbl
[01:26] <v3nUs> hellow again!
[01:27] <v3nUs> somebody pleeeeaaaasssseee answer me! :)
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> what did you say?
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb Hobbsee
[01:30] <Hobbsee> hey Kamping_Kaiser
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:30] <Jrwa> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks for the help, I hope it get's fixed soon
[01:30] <Jrwa> bye
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> later Jrwa
[01:31] <rikai> y'knwo, i think i'd be able to deal with kde more if it had all those different "configure *" menus in one dialog with tabs or something x.x
[01:33] <den> Hi - amaroK wont play a file - I installed gstream0.10-alsa - am runniung Dapper test 5 - am I missing something?  What needs to be done to get it to work?
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> den: what file?
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi, btw
[01:34] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: hi :)
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Tm_T :)
[01:35] <Tm_T> den: amarok in dapper doesn't have gst engine afaik
[01:35] <Tm_T> !mp3
[01:35] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:35] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[01:35] <den> Kamping_Kaiser: ladeda.mp3
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> read the link Tm_T gave you
[01:36] <Tm_T> Hobbsee_away: nooo
[01:36] <den> Thanks :)
[01:37] <Hobbsee_away> at 10.37pm!
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Hobbsee_away
[01:37] <Hobbsee_away> hehe
[01:37] <Tm_T> Hobbsee_away: yeah, go away when I come in... I know you're avoiding me!
[01:37] <Hobbsee_away> i just got home from work
[01:37] <Hobbsee_away> Tm_T: as always :P
[01:37] <Tm_T> you can't stand my charm ;)
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[01:38] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: agree =)
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> :}
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> bblish
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> in 40~
[01:43] <andrzej> hi, why when j click on configuration in kopete, er crashed?
[01:45] <andrzej> ??
[01:46] <andrzej> ??
[01:48] <v3nUs> hi, andrzej. :)
[01:48] <andrzej> hi
[01:49] <v3nUs> i'm new here. Are u?
[01:49] <andrzej> too
[01:51] <v3nUs> can i know where r u from? :)
[01:52] <XVampireX> Who?
[01:52] <andrzej> Poland
[01:52] <XVampireX> Aye Aye Cptn
[01:53] <nuky> hi, how can i set up java applets to work in my konqueror? i have java installed, and i have also enabled it in the konqueror settings and provided a full path to java in the "Path to java executable" field.. but when i try to load a page with an applet, it doesn't do anything.. there isn't an error or anything like that.. the applet area just stays blank
[01:53] <v3nUs> waaaw, so far away!
[01:54] <v3nUs> i'm from indonesia (if u wanna know ;)
[01:55] <XVampireX> Is anyone here a Wine developer?
[01:55] <andrzej> i know wher is indonesia :)
[01:55] <XVampireX> I know it's the wrong place to ask, but because I'm using kubuntu, just wanted to ask here because no one is available in the IRC channel :P
[01:57] <v3nUs> and.... ur age? (sorry >_<)
[01:57] <andrzej> 16
[01:57] <nuky> hmmm i unchecked the "Use KIO" optiona nd now it says, "Loadin Applet" in the applet area for aaaages.. but it doesn't load.. i'm trying the example applets from the sun java site http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/CardTest/example1.html any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks you
[01:57] <v3nUs> waw, still young!
[01:58] <andrzej> and you?
[01:58] <andrzej> kopete
[01:58] <andrzej> soorry not here
[01:58] <v3nUs> 19
[01:59] <v3nUs> kopete??? What is that?
[01:59] <arafat> nuky: i have the same problem with konq and java... didn't manage to solve it yet....
[01:59] <andrzej> instant messanger
[01:59] <XVampireX> This is for people who want to paste more than 1 line: http://www.shorttext.com/default.aspx
[01:59] <den> Hi - What is the sound system in Kubuntu - & could I find this out by myself, from the system, without having to ask someone?  If so, how?  Ie, ALSA?  Other?
[01:59] <v3nUs> Hellow XVampireX! :)
[01:59] <nuky> arafat: hmmm, it's so frustrating! i'll let you know if i find anything useful :)
[02:00] <andrzej> j must go bay
[02:00] <nuky> den: if you go to K Menu -> Setting -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound Sytem, in the hardware tab, there's a list of sound systems used..
[02:01] <den> nuky: thx :)
[02:01] <patrix> which reminds me.. how do you select a default sound card in KDE ?
[02:01] <patrix> and kmix
[02:02] <patrix> it's always defaulting to my USB headset instad of my soundcard (for kmix), at least the sound comes out through my speakers though
[02:02] <_kent> poo?
[02:02] <_kent> /nick poo
[02:03] <_kent> :D
[02:03] <_kent> helolo?
[02:03] <_kent> exit
[02:03] <v3nUs> helolo 2 kent!
[02:06] <v3nUs> awwwwwwwwww
[02:06] <v3nUs> gillllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:06] <den> What's up with libxine-extracodecs ?  the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats says it's needed, but in Adept it doesn't show up.  I'd using dapper, and have the universe repositories enabled.  ??
[02:08] <v3nUs> hi _Ace_!
[02:09] <v3nUs> helllooooooooooooow, any body there
[02:09] <v3nUs> ???????????????
[02:10] <mindspin> capslock trouble?
[02:10] <v3nUs> nope
[02:11] <Hobbsee> den: do you have multiverse enabled as well?
[02:11] <Hobbsee> !tell den about multiverse
[02:14] <v3nUs> busyet dah
[02:14] <myndmelder> anyone here?
[02:15] <dark_suic> maybe
[02:15] <mindspin> 188 Nicks
[02:16] <Hobbsee> nope, no one is here
[02:16] <myndmelder> lol
[02:16] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:17] <mindspin> !ask
[02:17] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[02:17] <ubotu> methinks ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[02:17] <mindspin> thanks Hobbsee
[02:17] <myndmelder> Anyone care to help? A second hard drive question and the posts on the forum aren't helping...
[02:18] <Hobbsee> !+mount
[02:18] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:18] <myndmelder> Hey I'm new! And I don't like bothering people
[02:18] <Hobbsee> that help?
[02:18] <Hobbsee> myndmelder: not a problem - and you're not a bother - this is a support channel
[02:18] <den> Hobbsee: Thx, I'm starting to read the link about multiverse. But, do I need multiverse enabled?  If so, that wiki on Restricted formats is inclomplete, cause it doesn't say multiverse is necessary for Kubuntu Dapper, in order to get aramK to play mp3s.  So, does Kub Dap need multiverse enabled?
[02:19] <Hobbsee> den: i dont know exactly what the page says, but yes, you will need multiverse
[02:19] <kimo> kubuntu users can't use easyubuntu, right?
[02:19] <Hobbsee> kimo: ask that in #easyubuntu
[02:19] <Hobbsee> it may be #easy-ubuntu
[02:19] <deviant> hihi
[02:19] <Hobbsee> i dont remember - and i'm not sure of the current answer to that question
[02:19] <Hobbsee> hey deviant
[02:19] <kimo> ohh thnx
[02:20] <deviant> i just want to ask. why does ubuntu sets mount point to /media, instead of the good o' /mnt?
[02:20] <deviant> lol
[02:21] <den> Hobbsee: can you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats section Non-Free Media > Mp3s, and see that it doesn't say multiverse needed, and if it is needed, would you please update that wiki to make it correctly say multiverse is neede also?
[02:22] <dipnlik> deviant: IIRC, deban uses /media
[02:22] <dipnlik> s/deban/debian
[02:22] <deviant> i see
[02:22] <dipnlik> deviant: well, you can always make a link from /mnt to /media :)
[02:23] <deviant> thats.. cheating
[02:23] <deviant> haha
[02:23] <dipnlik> LOL
[02:23] <Hobbsee> den: added.
[02:23] <Hobbsee> it does mention multiverse further up the page
[02:23] <deviant> crap.. i just installed kubuntu.. now have to dig for packages to install
[02:24] <Hobbsee> deviant: use adept.
[02:24] <deviant> i know
[02:24] <den> Hobbsee: thx :)
[02:25] <deviant> i know.. but i still have to dig for stuff like the mp3 packages and win32codecs, etc etc
[02:25] <dipnlik> deviant:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:25] <dipnlik> updated some seconds ago :P
[02:26] <den> Do I need the source debs enabled in Adept if I don't plan on specifically getting or using any source code myself?
[02:26] <mornfall> win32codecs? what's that for :)
[02:26] <deviant> tx but i'm not that noob ^_^
[02:26] <Hobbsee> den: no you dont, just comment them out
[02:26] <deviant> erm.. i used to use gentoo... win32codecs are all the windows codec
[02:27] <deviant> what cha call em in ubuntu?
[02:27] <mornfall> Hobbsee: it's disable in adept -- admittedly adept has a little ... spartan ... sources.list editor :)
[02:27] <Hobbsee> oh really?  i thought i got to try it out..
[02:27] <mornfall> why would anyone want all the windows codecs
[02:27] <mornfall> Hobbsee: you need to use context menu :] 
[02:27] <Hobbsee> right, whatever that is
[02:27] <Blippe> !w32codecs
[02:27] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:28] <Blippe> deviant, |
[02:28] <Hobbsee> in regards to the context menu, that is
[02:29] <XVampireX> http://digg.com/science/Virtual_Cell_Biology_may_help_create_pet_dragons,_gryphons,_and_unicorns
[02:31] <XVampireX> PET DRAGON!!!!!
[02:31] <XVampireX> Fly anywhere you want, LOL!
[02:31] <deviant> how do i throttle the bandwidth that apt-get sucks up? i dont think my room mate would be very amused when he gets lagged in his online game
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> deviant: you may be able to set some QoS in your router.
[02:33] <deviant> man.. i dont think thats at all possible
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> deviant: only other thing then would probably be to setup QoS on your linux machine, you'd have to setup what's called an ingress policy.
[02:33] <deviant> i'm sure there must be a way? just like wget and gentoo's portage can limit bandwidth?
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> deviant: http://lartc.org/
[02:35] <kimo> guys, is there a way (like easyubuntu) to install all proprietary shit, but in kubuntu
[02:36] <hugelmopf> kimo: doesn't automatix do what you want?
[02:36] <Blippe> kimo, you can use easyubuntu in kubuntu, you just need a few packages!
[02:36] <Blippe> hugelmopf, we don't recommend automatix in this channel
[02:37] <Blippe> !automatix
[02:37] <deviant> limit bandwidth? looks promising? http://www.techiesabode.com/show/show_tips_w.php?tip_id=72
[02:37] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:37] <hugelmopf> hmmm... doesn't sound too good.
[02:37] <kimo> automatix is frowned upon, and easyubuntu requires synaptic & gnome-terminal , duh!
[02:37] <hugelmopf> i didn't know that automatix is frowned upon.
[02:37] <Blippe> #easyubuntu does have a few pointers on using easyubuntu on kubuntu
[02:38] <kimo> yeah, like I said, I won't install gnome-terminal for it
[02:38] <den> The Mar 10 Dapper Kubuntu is 6.05, correct?
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> deviant: yeah, that looks easier.
[02:38] <Blippe> kimo, remove them afterwards then?
[02:39] <Blippe> den, not really
[02:39] <Blippe> the final release is 6.06, the cds released before that are called flights
[02:40] <Blippe> den, and mars is the third month so if anything it should be 6.03
[02:41] <den> Blippe: What's the relationship between rev #'s and release date cd's?  http://www.ubuntu.com/developers says 6.04 is the latest version, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing shows Flight 5 is latest cd.  ??
[02:41] <mornfall> automatix is frowned upon for good measure
[02:42] <den> Blippe: Doesn't Flight cd # = 6.0#?
[02:42] <Blippe> den, the developers site is old, and should be updated. The new version they are working on is 6.06 (as it is released june 2006), and the flight 5 is the latest "beta" cd...
[02:43] <den> Blippe: ok, so I have flight 5 cd, what is the Kubuntu version # of that?
[02:44] <hugelmopf> den: it is flight 5 of version 6.06 (dapper)
[02:44] <Blippe> den, no the numbering on ubuntu is "yearnumber"."month released" for final versions, and flights for tests. The latest flight (flight 5) is a beta for version 6.06 (which at the point of it's release was supposed to be a 6.04, but has been delayed from april to june)
[02:44] <hugelmopf> flight 5 means something like alpha5
[02:44] <den> hugelmopf: thx :)
[02:44] <hugelmopf> or even beta... blippe is right.
[02:45] <den> Blippe: Ths :)
[02:45] <hugelmopf> btw... for total confusion: for the next release, betas won't be called flight anymore, because the release might not be a bird... right?
[02:49] <Blippe> is a drake a bird?
[02:49] <Hobbsee> Blippe: IIRC, it is
[02:49] <Hobbsee> hugelmopf: yes.  the breezy ones were called colonies
[02:50] <SkrotFFS> drake is a male duck
[02:50] <SkrotFFS> yet drapper is not a bird, is it?
[02:50] <raphink> drapper is an adjective
[02:50] <raphink> just as breezy
[02:50] <raphink> s/drapper/dapper/
[02:51] <Blippe> breezy badger, dapper drake
[02:51] <SkrotFFS> yeah
[02:51] <mornfall> dapper =~ smart (looks)
[02:51] <Blippe> warty warthog
[02:51] <Tm_T> hullo
[02:51] <den> What is the easiest way to get common/important  multimedia/etc functions enabled in Kub?  I'd read & been told somethig about, I think, automatix, but I just saw the above comments.  ???
[02:51] <mornfall> punk's dead
[02:51] <Blippe> easiest is to install easyubuntu and what is needed and then remove all of it again when it is all finished!
[02:52] <raphink> Blippe: no please
[02:52] <Blippe> best: to it all by hand.
[02:52] <raphink> !restrictedformats
[02:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:52] <raphink> den: look there
[02:52] <asraniel> hi there, anyone knows how to change the dpi settings in x.org? i cant find the doc about it
[02:52] <raphink> please don't use easyubuntu
[02:52] <mornfall> god kills kittens every time you ask about important multimedia functions and you mean w32codecs
[02:53] <mornfall> raphink: what's easyubuntu?
[02:53] <raphink> mornfall: a set of scripts that install multiverse and plf stuff
[02:53] <raphink> it's rather dirty
[02:53] <mornfall> another one?
[02:53] <raphink> but used by a lot of people
[02:53] <mornfall> i thought automatix was the villain :)
[02:53] <mornfall> either way
[02:53] <raphink> well automatix is a bitt more powerful than easyubuntu even
[02:53] <raphink> ;)
[02:54] <mornfall> it basically means people give crap about freedom
[02:54] <raphink> asraniel: i think you can set it in kdmrc
[02:54] <mornfall> they want their games
[02:54] <raphink> mornfall: yes
[02:54] <Blippe> it is a prog that installs all that stuff automatix does, but without breaking anything. It has been done since tons of people used automatix when they were to lazy to do the stuff themselves
[02:54] <mornfall> (they have enough bread to die of overeating)
[02:54] <raphink> most users are more concerned about free than open-source in FOSS
[02:54] <mornfall> raphink: free beer :)
[02:54] <raphink> Blippe: without breaking anything is your point
[02:54] <mornfall> raphink: or, for this matter, free entertainment
[02:54] <raphink> it is not mine
[02:55] <raphink> Blippe: it doesn't use apt-get properly to install, so the system loses track of what's installed
[02:55] <raphink> it's not what I call clean
[02:55] <raphink> mornfall: yep ;)
[02:55] <Blippe> raphink, no "easy"... he asked for easy...
[02:55] <myndmelder> grrr... Sorry. I had to reboot... What was that webpage with the info on how to mount a second HD in Kubuntu?
[02:56] <mornfall> mankind is a bunch of losers :|
[02:56] <raphink> mornfall: lol
[02:58] <mornfall> seems that was a good way to silence the channel :)
[02:58] <Hobbsee> mornfall: indeed..hehe
[02:59] <Hobbsee> !tell myndmelder about mount
[02:59] <mornfall> hush don't tell them, ignorance is bliss
[02:59] <mornfall> :] 
[02:59] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:00] <myndmelder> ...
[03:00] <mornfall> myndmelder: sorry nothing personal
[03:00] <den> raphink: What are the specific reasons you said "please don't use easyubuntu"?  And, reading whe Restricted formats wiki, which you suggested, & I've been working on for an hour now, isn't too "easy".
[03:00] <myndmelder> No prob, I got my answer.
[03:00] <mornfall> install gentoo :)
[03:00] <raphink> huhu
[03:01] <mornfall> that was to den
[03:01] <den> mornfall: :(
[03:01] <mornfall> let me see what's in restrictedformats
[03:02] <den> raphink: ??
[03:02] <mornfall> well
[03:02] <mornfall> no matter people complain it's hard
[03:02] <mornfall> if someone spent the time devoted to writing that wikipage thinking
[03:03] <raphink> the wikipage is pretty easy to use imo
[03:03] <raphink> it takes about 15minutes to type these stuff
[03:03] <raphink> all you have to do is copy and paste what is there
[03:03] <mornfall> there could be a nice script that drops multiverse+restricted into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, apt-get update
[03:03] <raphink> actually I'm pretty sure most people don't want to know that this is forbidden in their country, too
[03:03] <mornfall> and a metapackage that would depend on the nonfree things
[03:04] <raphink> mornfall: this is basically what easyubuntu does imo
[03:04] <mornfall> raphink: someone said it doesn't use apt-get
[03:04] <raphink> except iirc it doesn't "drop multiverse+restricted"
[03:04] <raphink> but it modifies apt-get instead
[03:04] <raphink> mornfall: it doesn't use apt-get for everything
[03:05] <raphink> it basically modifies your sourcees.list
[03:05] <raphink> without parsing it
[03:05] <raphink> just replacing with another file
[03:05] <raphink> then apt-get update
[03:05] <mornfall> hehe
[03:05] <raphink> install some stuff
[03:05] <raphink> but then w32codecs can't be installed with apt-get
[03:05] <raphink> except from plf
[03:05] <mornfall> what's plf
[03:05] <raphink> so I think it downloads the .deb
[03:05] <raphink> plf is the penguin liberation front
[03:05] <mornfall> well, downloading deb and dpkg-ing it is nothing criminal
[03:05] <raphink> http://plf.zarb.org/
[03:06] <raphink> anyway
[03:06] <raphink> in dapper we can now have most restrictedformats with libxine-extracodecs
[03:07] <mornfall> raphink: even the wiki page suggests to get the deb and dpkg it
[03:07] <raphink> except for wmv and such
[03:07] <mornfall> raphink: i don't see how following the wiki is less broken than executing a script that does it
[03:07] <Chameleon22> does anyone know how to export mail from Evolution mail client into KMail?
[03:07] <mornfall> if you think the extra work will stop people from using restricted codecs, you are naive
[03:07] <raphink> well from what I remember easyubuntu borks your sources.list
[03:08] <mornfall> raphink: that's so easy to fix...
[03:08] <asraniel> Hobbsee: works great with the default 96. i locked on the web and saw that my laptop screen has a dpi of 129. when i set that, everything is too big, with 96 its perfect :-)
[03:08] <Hobbsee> hehe yay!
[03:08] <raphink> :)
[03:08] <raphink> asraniel: kubuntu dapper has 96 forced :)
[03:09] <mornfall> raphink: actually, doing mkdir -p /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ; cat > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/restricted <<EOF\n the bad sources list lines\nEOFadept_batch --install foo bar baz packages would be fairly nice script
[03:09] <mornfall> raphink: (put kdesu and sudo at right places in it)
[03:09] <raphink> hehe
[03:09] <raphink> ;)
[03:10] <mornfall> and remove -- from --install
[03:10] <Eaze> i have a problem installing kubuntu, it give a blank screen and hangs after the first prompt, i use a Asus m6n... ???
[03:10] <raphink> Riddell suggested me to make a .desktop for adept_installer
[03:10] <raphink> for libxine-extracodecs
[03:10] <raphink> so people could install mp3, etc.. support from it
[03:10] <mornfall> raphink: hmm?
[03:10] <mornfall> ah right
[03:10] <raphink> bt then the tags don't make it easy
[03:11] <mornfall> raphink: that's because ubuntu is a fork and does not support debtags
[03:11] <raphink> mhm
[03:11] <mornfall> you can distribute a debdiff i believe
[03:11] <mornfall> but i'm not sure it's supported currently other than ~/.debtags/patch
[03:12] <mornfall> --> meeting
[03:12] <mornfall> laters
[03:14] <hugelmopf> Chameleon22: look at kmailcvt
[03:14] <hugelmopf> Chameleon22: it should give you options to import different message formats into kmail
[03:14] <Chameleon22> hugelmopf, thanks, about to check it out
[03:20] <hugelmopf> Chameleon22: once you have it installed, restart kontact (or kmail), and the Extras - Import Messages option should appear
[03:21] <Chameleon22> hugelmopf, ye importing now, thanks. Will see what happens :)
[03:21] <hugelmopf> i am actually surprised that kmailcvt is not installed by default. importing messages should be a common task for a kubuntu beginner.
[03:21] <Chameleon22> i was suggested to do it vi an imapd which is a logical option, but your suggestion is the first choise so trying it first
[03:21] <Chameleon22> :)
[03:22] <hugelmopf> it is not even in main...
[03:22] <den> I am unable to get aramoK to play an mp3 file using the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats   I installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and libxine-extracodecs .   I was unable to install akode-mpeg because adept doesn't show it existing.  Adept does show libakode2 is installed, and libakode2-mpeg exists but isn't installed.  Should that be installed, and the wiki page updated?  Any suggestions, please?
[03:23] <hugelmopf> the wiki page is probably about the stable version, breezy. are you talking about dapper?
[03:23] <den> hugelmopf: dapper flight 5 kubuntu
[03:23] <tristanmike> !dapper
[03:23] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:24] <hugelmopf> then you are right about trying libakode2-mpeg, but do not change the wiki page. after all, breezy is the current version.
[03:24] <tristanmike> it's best to join that ^^ channel for any dapper discussion
[03:24] <lukasz> PLEASE HELP ME !
[03:24] <den> tristanmike: are you suggesting I ask that question in #ubuntu+?
[03:24] <tristanmike> den: yes my friend, they would be better suited to help you :)
[03:25] <lukasz> tell my how to instal program : GNU GADU ( www.gadu.gnu.pl
[03:25] <den> hugelmopf: actually that wiki page does have info for Dapper - those instructions seem to be indicating that they are complete instructions for dapper.
[03:26] <hugelmopf> i see.
[03:26] <tristanmike> but since dapper is still in testing, it may, and most likely *will* break, so what worked to today, may not work tomorrow
[03:27] <hugelmopf> lukasz: are you trying to connect to the gadu-gadu network? you can try kopete!
[03:27] <tristanmike> and then it might work again the next day
[03:27] <lukasz> i only want have a gg and tlen
[03:28] <lukasz> and it does't metter how program i use . BUT I want have it
[03:28] <den> Is there anyone here who has used dapper flight & gotten mp3 playiing to work?
[03:28] <lukasz> i will back for 3 minutes
[03:28] <Hobbsee> den: yes, with installing libxine-extracodecs, and using the xine engine
[03:29] <den> Hobbsee: what do I have to do to "use the xine engine"?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> den: which program are you using to play mp3's?
[03:29] <Scarslife> i'm back ( i'm lukas)
[03:30] <den> Hobbsee: aramoK
[03:30] <Hobbsee> den: settings, configure amarok, engines, xine engine
[03:30] <hugelmopf> Scarslife: this guy seems to have packages for ubuntu breezy: http://nowak.eu.org/ubuntu
[03:30] <hugelmopf> i'm off for a bit
[03:30] <Scarslife> ok i will see
[03:30] <Hobbsee> Scarslife: please dont private message without permission first...
[03:30] <Scarslife> but how to install this ?
[03:31] <Scarslife> ok ok :P sorry :)
[03:31] <Hobbsee> soon, anyway
[03:31] <Hobbsee> and i dont know the answer to everything
[03:32] <Scarslife> realy ;P ? :P
[03:33] <Hobbsee> Scarslife: sure :P
[03:33] <vijay> hi all, i want to install dapper test release, will it erase my old kubuntu settings? or just does the upgrade?
[03:33] <Scarslife> ok ok :P
[03:33] <Hobbsee> vijay: dist-upgrade, or off a flight cd?
[03:33] <vijay> means my files and all those things
[03:34] <vijay> Hobbsee:flight cd
[03:35] <Scarslife> than somone can tell me how to instal this program : www.gadu.gnu.pl ?
[03:35] <den> Hobbsee: I checked the amarok settings, the engine is set to xine.  I have libxine-extracodecx installed.  when I click on a filename of an mp3 in amarok, & press play, no sound occurs, and a note pops up saying "playlist finished"  - Any idea how to get amarok to play mp3's???
[03:35] <Scarslife> please
[03:35] <Hobbsee> den: hmm...that's weird.
[03:35] <dipnlik> hi all. installed thunar on my machine, but it doesnt't run. the error msg is: Gtk-WARNING **: Theme file for kubuntu has no directories . any ideas?
[03:36] <den> Hobbsee: Any suggestions?
[03:36] <Chameleon22> hugelmopf, kmailcvt.... worked great. Thanks a lot :)
[03:36] <Hobbsee> !tell Scarslife about compile
[03:37] <Hobbsee> not currently...
[03:37] <Hobbsee> vijay: is your /home on a separate partitoin?
[03:39] <vijay> Hobbsee:no
[03:40] <Hobbsee> vijay: backup your /home, and then you'll be able to copy it over
[03:40] <vijay> Hobbsee:everything is on my hdb4
[03:40] <vijay> Hobbsee:ok, what about my installed softwares?
[03:40] <Hobbsee> remove ~/.kde/*tmp*, ice authority, x authority, and DCOP*
[03:41] <Hobbsee> seeing as those files dont copy over properly
[03:41] <Hobbsee> vijay: you'll have to reinstall it
[03:41] <den> Is there a "remote access" program that lets someone see the gui on a remote computer, and interact (kbd, mouse) with it, for kubuntu?
[03:41] <vijay> Hobbsee:ok
[03:42] <zaba_> den: i'm interenting in this, too
[03:42] <Hobbsee> den: i believe that krdc and krfb do that
[03:42] <zaba_> Hobbsee: really?
[03:42] <zaba_> Hobbsee: can it connect to windows hosts?
[03:43] <Hobbsee> according to the descriptions on my kmenu, yes
[03:43] <Hobbsee> got no idea
[03:50] <MaterMaravillae> hey guys
[03:51] <MaterMaravillae> do any of you use vmware?
[03:52] <r-hold> Hi i am missing a default /etc/inetd.conf in all inetd-packages. Can anyone help?
[03:54] <zaba_> I'm using VMWARE
[03:54] <zaba_> MaterMaravillae: i'm using vmware workstation 5.5.1
[03:54] <MaterMaravillae> hi zaba_
[03:55] <MaterMaravillae> thx for answering
[03:55] <MaterMaravillae> my question is simple
[03:55] <MaterMaravillae> :
[03:55] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[03:55] <ubotu> I guess ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[03:56] <MaterMaravillae> if i save a (for example) a recently installed ubuntu on vmware, can i run it on other computers (different hardware) using vmware?
[03:56] <zaba_> yup
[03:56] <MaterMaravillae> really?
[03:56] <zaba_> vmware EMULATES all hardware
[03:57] <MaterMaravillae> that is awesome
[03:57] <zaba_> also the best is to run VM on different computer using (free) VMWare player
[03:57] <ricardo> ae galera to com um problema aqui, acabei de instalar o kubuntu, mas no consigo fazer o apt funcionar direito, ele s t querendo procurar no cd, como eu fao pra liberar a procura na net?
[03:58] <MaterMaravillae> so if i have a license for a program that can be installed only once (hipothetically), i can install it on vmware and share that saved OS in my other computers
[03:58] <zaba_> yup :-)
[03:58] <MaterMaravillae> oh yes
[03:58] <MaterMaravillae> thank you zaba_
[03:58] <MaterMaravillae> that was all
[03:58] <MaterMaravillae> :-DDD
[03:58] <zaba_> :-] 
[03:58] <zaba_> (: -^ D )
[03:59] <MaterMaravillae> 8[03:59] <MaterMaravillae> :P
[03:59] <zaba_> ( 8 -^ ]  )
[03:59] <zaba_> ( B -^ S )
[04:00] <mindspin> !tell me ndiswrapper
[04:03] <ricardo> someone can help me?
[04:05] <Sergi0> ricardo, maybe someone can
[04:08] <ricardo> thx... i have some problem with apt
[04:09] <ricardo> i tried to get mozilla from it , but it just search at the cd, and not at internet
[04:09] <ricardo> i tried to uncomment the lines in the sources list. but it was not enough
[04:10] <ricardo> how can i change this
[04:11] <Sergi0> ricardo uncomment the cdrom line in sources.list, then 'sudo apt-get update', then u will be fine
[04:11] <Sergi0> ricardo the update will read all package info, else it will not use the new config file
[04:13] <ricardo> i already uncommendted the source list, but i want to get things from teh internet, nor just from cd
[04:13] <ricardo> i get this error afeter doing that
[04:13] <ricardo>  E: No foi possvel obter trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11      
[04:13] <ricardo>    Recurso temporariamente indisponvel) E: Impossvel criar lock no       
[04:13] <ricardo>    diretrio de listas
[04:14] <Sergi0> ricardo did u use the update?
[04:14] <ricardo>  E: No foi possvel obter trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11      
[04:14] <ricardo>    Recurso temporariamente indisponvel) E: Impossvel criar lock no       
[04:14] <ricardo>    diretrio de listas
[04:14] <ricardo> yes
[04:14] <Sergi0> then just pres 'reload' in synaptic (probaly allready running?)
[04:15] <ricardo> sorry im new in linux, and dont now all the names et
[04:15] <ricardo> what is synapic?
[04:17] <MaterMaravillae> ricardo: sistema>administrador experto
[04:17] <MaterMaravillae> (if u use kubuntu, synaptic is in Ubuntu)
[04:18] <ricardo> i use kubuntu
[04:18] <MaterMaravillae> i mean: kubuntu--->package manager (administrador experto) (Adept) ; ubuntu--->Synaptic
[04:19] <ricardo> i think adept is the kde version for synaptic, right?
[04:19] <MaterMaravillae> more or less
[04:19] <MaterMaravillae> if you rather speaking spanish, you can come to #kubuntu-es
[04:22] <ricardo> i speak portuguese
[04:22] <MaterMaravillae> oh ok
[04:22] <ricardo> pero jo compreendo espanol
[04:22] <MaterMaravillae> with that name, i thought you were spanish
[04:23] <ricardo> brasilian
[04:23] <MaterMaravillae> ok
[04:24] <ricardo> o problema  que eu no consigo fazer o apt funcionar para internet
[04:25] <MaterMaravillae> did you uncomment the lines?
[04:25] <dipnlik> ricardo: english only here, you can /join #ubuntu-br (ubuntu and kubuntu discussion there)
[04:26] <ricardo> thx
[04:26] <Riddell> ** flight 6 candidates for testing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060331/  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060331.1/
[04:26] <ricardo> yes i uncomment the line
[04:27] <ricardo> but i get this error when i try to uptade the source
[04:27] <ricardo>  E: No foi possvel obter trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11      
[04:27] <ricardo>    Recurso temporariamente indisponvel) E: Impossvel criar lock no       
[04:27] <ricardo>    diretrio de listas
[04:28] <Sergi0> ricardo are u using sudo? like 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:28] <ricardo> i tried everway
[04:29] <trappist> ricardo: ps aux | grep apt
[04:29] <Sergi0> are u running other program that access the sources?
[04:29] <ricardo> no
[04:30] <ricardo> so, i typed this, mh retur was
[04:31] <ricardo> root      9010 87.1  1.5   7200  4000 ?        R    10:39  42:49 apt-get install mozilla-browser
[04:31] <ricardo> root      9012  0.0  0.5   4796  1484 ?        S    10:39   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/cdrom
[04:31] <ricardo> ricardo   9068  0.0  4.7  25496 12152 ?        S    10:45   0:00 kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <ricardo> ricardo   9141  0.0  4.7  25496 12164 ?        S    10:49   0:00 kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <ricardo> ricardo   9151  0.0  4.7  25496 12164 ?        S    10:50   0:00 kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <ricardo> ricardo   9279  0.6  9.4  66816 24304 ?        S    10:55   0:13 konversation -caption Konversation -icon konversation -miniicon konversation
[04:31] <ricardo> ricardo   9534  0.1  5.5  26912 14252 ?        S    11:18   0:00 kdesu -u root -c adept '-icon' 'adept' '-miniicon' 'adept' -caption "Adept"
[04:31] <ricardo> root      9545  2.4 11.7  60992 30076 ?        Ss   11:18   0:15 adept -icon adept -miniicon adept -caption Adept
[04:31] <ricardo> ricardo   9624  0.0  0.2   2952   756 pts/2    R+   11:29   0:00 grep apt
[04:32] <Tm_T> !paste
[04:32] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:32] <hugelmopf> Riddell: wouldn't it make sense to include kmailcvt in main and kubuntu-desktop, so that users can import their emails into kontact?
[04:32] <Sergi0> ricardo :) 'sudo killall -9 apt && killall -9 adept'
[04:33] <Riddell> hugelmopf: where do I find it?
[04:33] <hugelmopf> it is in universe
[04:33] <hugelmopf> and when it is installed, the Extras -- Import Messages in kmail works
[04:34] <ricardo> i did, but there was none opened!
[04:35] <ricardo> whats now? i need to chance some file at
[04:36] <Sergi0> ricardo? im not sure what the problem is now? just reboot to make sure nothing is using the sources, after reboot type the 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:37] <ricardo> ok
[04:37] <ricardo> be back soon
[04:37] <Sergi0> ricardo probaly it will work then
[04:40] <hugelmopf> Riddell: it's part of the official KDE pim module, so it should be reliable.
[04:41] <ricardo> Hey sergio, now its working
[04:41] <Sergi0> ricardo, any luck
[04:42] <Sergi0> ricardo oh okay, good for you :)
[04:42] <Sergi0> i go now, bye
[04:42] <ricardo> thx man
[04:42] <ricardo> bey
[04:54] <ricardo> now i have another problem, well i have some, but ill sa this one first, if anyone can help, ill be glad
[04:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ricardo: ask, and people might be able to help
[04:56] <ricardo> i want to enable, acsess to my hd, but as user not only as root
[04:57] <ricardo> i tried at system configuration, but it seems that, i havent put the right things in the options
[04:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> what did you put in?
[04:59] <ricardo> i put enable/disable for all user, but when i checked at konqueror, it appears only for root and group, but not for user
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> ricardo: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab
[04:59] <ricardo> sure, just a moment
[05:00] <ricardo> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[05:00] <ricardo> #
[05:00] <ricardo> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah not here!
[05:00] <ricardo> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> :S
[05:01] <ricardo> /dev/hda4 / reiserfs notail,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser 0 1
[05:01] <ricardo> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,uid=0,gid=0,auto,ro,users 0 0
[05:01] <ricardo> /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat defaults,uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,users 0 0
[05:01] <ricardo> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat defaults,uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,users 0 0
[05:01] <ricardo> /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0
[05:01] <ricardo> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:01] <ricardo> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:01] <ricardo> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto ,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid,user 0 0
[05:01] <dipnlik> ricardo: he said pastebin!, not paste here!
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> !mount
[05:02] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell ricardo about mount
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell ricardo about pastebin
[05:02] <Tm_T> oh well
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> it happens
[05:02] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: +sh
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> which is that?
[05:03] <ricardo> sorry, i dont know irc, is the firt time i use this
[05:05] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: add s and h to your sentence
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[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought you were refering to channel modes :$
[05:24] <xanax`> hello
[05:24] <xanax`> where can I find a big flat kubuntu logo ?
[05:24] <xanax`> google images doesn't give me any (big ones)
[05:36] <_Allz-> hello can someone help me please?
[05:36] <_Allz-> #window
[05:37] <_Allz-> #ubuntu
[05:37] <_Allz-> #windows
[05:37] <Kaiser_Sleeps> can someone help you?
[05:37] <Kaiser_Sleeps> try  /join
[05:38] <_Allz-> please hellp me
[05:38] <_Allz-> i need help ;(
[05:39] <Kaiser_Sleeps> but what *with*?
[05:39] <taloschen> how can i run as root in kubuntu?
[05:39] <Kaiser_Sleeps> !tell taloschen about root
[05:39] <_Allz-> i am trying to let eggdrop bot work on window
[05:39] <_Allz-> can someone help me
[05:39] <Kaiser_Sleeps> don't know anything about it
[05:43] <golan> hi guys. I am facing a problem with kubuntu drapper that I don't really know if it is related to kubuntu or ubuntu (probably the base distribution) or any misconfiguration by my side.
[05:44] <golan> The thing is that I am connecting a network via dhcp and, although I get a right IP address, the netmask assigned is 255.255.255.255
[05:44] <golan> which leaves me with no connection at all
[05:44] <golan> have you faced this before? any hints?
[05:48] <burepe> Anyone know how to change ports in qtorrent?
[05:50] <_intel> anyone have current experience installing mythtv on kubuntu 5.10?
[05:53] <taloschen> i wanna use something like "kdesu konqueror" to run Konqueror with root permmition, can anybody tell me the correct command?
[05:54] <_intel> Tawhen I used Debian it had something that allow anything ran from the sektop to be ran ass root
[05:54] <trappist> taloschen: that sounds like the right command
[05:55] <taloschen> but it was wrong, because i cannot browse files
[05:55] <taloschen> it says "cannot ... klaucher"
[05:56] <taloschen> something like this, i cannot remember
[05:57] <trappist> if I do that I can browse root-owned, root-only-browsable directories
[05:58] <taloschen> "cannot communicate with Klauncher"
[06:01] <ricardo> hey how can i set up X for root?
[06:03] <trappist> ricardo: don't do that
[06:03] <ricardo> why not?
[06:03] <trappist> ricardo: not running around as root is what separates us, security-wise, from windows.  it's why there are no effective viruses for linux.
[06:04] <Baosen> I got Kubuntu 5.04, How do I update it to 5.10? I have read the FAQ but it only says for Ubuntu :)
[06:04] <trappist> !upgrade
[06:04] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[06:04] <Baosen> tnx
[06:04] <trappist> Baosen: the instructions for ubuntu are the same as for kubuntu
[06:04] <Baosen> oh
[06:04] <Baosen> But I thought, aren't the KDE design different with GNOME?
[06:05] <trappist> the upgrade instructions are the same
[06:05] <trappist> it's the same os, just different package selections
[06:05] <Baosen> oh
[06:06] <trappist> if you install ubuntu and say apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and select kdm as your display manager and kde as your desktop, you're now running kubuntu
[06:06] <ricardo> i know, i dont want to run as root al the time, is just to open some programs once in a while
[06:07] <Baosen> What about Vice Versa?
[06:07] <GNU_Style> if im running kubuntu and aot-get gnome-desktop and use kdm am I in UBUNTU now?
[06:07] <trappist> ricardo: use sudo or kdesu for that
[06:07] <trappist> GNU_Style: it's ubuntu-desktop.  the lines are a little blurry.
[06:07] <trappist> Baosen: vice versa is the same
[06:08] <GNU_Style> trappist, why blurry? hardware support?
[06:08] <ricardo> how can i kill a program?
[06:08] <jpatrick> killall programname
[06:08] <trappist> no, it's just because kubuntu vs. ubuntu is mostly a matter of package selection.  you can mix and match by installing both and using gdm+kde or kdm+gnome, in which case you can call it whatever you like
[06:10] <trappist> if anybody is running kubuntu dapper, could you install (if you haven't already) eterm and try running Eterm -x
[06:10] <trappist> on my machine I get a warning and Eterm won't accept focus
[06:10] <Baosen> I got the 5.04 iso, any way to just convert it to 5.10 or do I need to DL the new one again? Tnx for your answers :)
[06:10] <trappist> Baosen: you can install it and dist-upgrade to 5.10 but you're better off getting a new iso
[06:10] <trappist> it'll take less time
[06:10] <MetaMorfoziS> Baosen: install it, and upgrade
[06:11] <trappist> and probably less bandwidth
[06:11] <MetaMorfoziS> yes.
[06:11] <Baosen> oh tnx!
[06:11] <ricardo> thx
[06:11] <trappist> and you'll avoid any upgrade-related bugs
[06:11] <Baosen> Gonna get off now, gonna get off tnx for all your help :)
[06:11] <MetaMorfoziS> like kde 3.4 to 3.5:D
[06:11] <MetaMorfoziS> it has many..:)
[06:12] <InGpAo> guys...can breezy be upgraded to KDE 3.5.2???
[06:12] <MetaMorfoziS> 3.5.2 is out?
[06:12] <MetaMorfoziS> InGpAo:  yes...
[06:12] <InGpAo> yes..
[06:12] <InGpAo> wow...
[06:12] <MetaMorfoziS> but it's bogous.
[06:13] <MetaMorfoziS> so you need aware
[06:13] <InGpAo> bogous?
[06:13] <GNU_Style> MetaMorfoziS, what do you mean bogus?
[06:13] <MetaMorfoziS> i had many problem when i upgrade 3.4 to 3.5.1
[06:13] <MetaMorfoziS> like the keyboard mapping
[06:13] <InGpAo> have you made it @ init3??
[06:13] <MetaMorfoziS> and some settings...
[06:14] <MetaMorfoziS> 3.5.2 is stable?
[06:14] <InGpAo> yes
[06:14] <InGpAo> better than 351
[06:15] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm upgrading
[06:15] <MetaMorfoziS> Qt: 3.3.4
[06:15] <MetaMorfoziS> KDE: 3.5.1
[06:15] <MetaMorfoziS> kde-config: 1.0
[06:16] <minn> hi, i have a ubuntu boot problem can anyone help? I've installed kubuntu and have been using it for a while now, yesterday I tried to shut down but it won't so i held the power button till it turns off. now when i turn on it won't boot into ubuntu. it tries to get to the boot gui screen then jumps out again with a bunch of status report
[06:17] <GNU_Style> MetaMorfoziS, wats QT?
[06:17] <jpatrick> Q Toolkit
[06:18] <MetaMorfoziS> /kdeversion
[06:18] <MetaMorfoziS> (in konversation)
[06:28] <MetaMorfoziS> re
[06:28] <MetaMorfoziS> huh it needs to downlad 210mb
[06:29] <MetaMorfoziS> i hope it has many bugfixes:D
[06:36] <ubuntu> hi
[06:38] <r3nz> I just tried to install from a 6.04 install/live dvd (really common hardware, worked with other distributions), but failed after the initial menu with a tty error
[06:38] <r3nz> any ideas?
[06:38] <r3nz> I'm currently using the live mode
[06:42] <r3nz> typical linuxoid behaviour
[06:42] <r3nz> bye
[06:43] <jpatrick> blah
[06:43] <robotgeek> hey jpatrick
[06:43] <jpatrick> hey robotgeek
[06:46] <MetaMorfoziS> my kde upgrade is at 62%!!!:) I'm waiting horribly it
[06:46] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[07:00] <gouchi> Hi
[07:00] <gouchi> don't know if the news has been reported
[07:00] <gouchi> ulteo will use Kubuntu for beta test
[07:00] <gouchi> according to the post of GD : http://ulteo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=23
[07:01] <gouchi> community website : http://ulteo.org - Official website : http://www.ulteo.com/
[07:03] <Foodcoman> Morning
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> Qt: 3.3.4
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> KDE: 3.5.1
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> kde-config: 1.0
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> why 3.5.1?!!!!
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> i do a reboot.
[07:06] <trappist> don't bother rebooting
[07:06] <trappist> or, reboot
[07:07] <epinephrine> "omg, something doesn't work, reboot!"
[07:07] <epinephrine> -
[07:07] <epinephrine> the windiws way :p
[07:07] <epinephrine> ugh.. windows
[07:08] <trappist> in all my years I've seen reboots of linux fix 2 things.  it creeped me out both times.
[07:08] <epinephrine> heh
[07:08] <trappist> one was a cups issue.  I forgot what the other one was.
[07:10] <oxez> kernel upgrade :p
[07:10] <Dasnipa`> kernAl
[07:10] <Dasnipa`> kernel is like popping corn
[07:11] <jtshaw> heh, I've crashed the kernal about a billion times.. seams like everytime I touch the code I crash it:)
[07:12] <vijay> hi all, how to install MRTG?
[07:16] <trappist> vijay: sudo apt-get install mrtg ?
[07:20] <vijay> trappist: installed but, unable to add devices to it
[07:22] <MetaMorfoziS> Qt: 3.3.4
[07:22] <MetaMorfoziS> KDE: 3.5.2
[07:22] <MetaMorfoziS> kde-config: 1.0
[07:22] <MetaMorfoziS> woho
[07:22] <MetaMorfoziS> yeah
[07:33] <Echo> hi
[07:33] <Echo> Need help with a compiler for kub
[07:34] <Echo> I tried to indatall xmms but I cant "make"
[07:34] <epinephrine> amarok. ;)
[07:34] <Echo> anything, could somebody helpme please?
[07:34] <robotgeek> Echo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:36] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:39] <MacAnthony> isn't xmms in a ubuntu repository?
[07:40] <pradeepto> ah MacAnthony
[07:40] <MacAnthony> hey pradeepto
[07:40] <MacAnthony> broke my kubuntu install last night
[07:40] <pradeepto> MacAnthony: I got xmms default on my dapper
[07:40] <pradeepto> sorry breezy
[07:40] <MacAnthony> not my question, I was more refering to Echo's question
[07:41] <apollo2011> I just added the KDE 3.5.2 repos to my sources.list and did a smart upgrade in Synaptic and nothing happens. It should want to upgrade all of the kde packages...any ideas?
[07:41] <MacAnthony> trying to install xmms from make install
[07:41] <pradeepto> oh sorry
[07:41] <pradeepto> MacAnthony: btw I am running breezy with 3.5.2, till now happy with it.
[07:42] <MacAnthony> cool
[07:42] <MacAnthony> when I updated to 3.5.2 last night, kde wouldn't start :)
[07:42] <pradeepto> try it
[07:42] <pradeepto> hmmmm
[07:43] <MacAnthony> that's whay I was doing in the #kde channel last night
[07:43] <MacAnthony> or, this morning for you
[07:43] <pradeepto> ok
[07:43] <MacAnthony> never did get it to work
[07:43] <MacAnthony> I think I might just start over since it's only been installed 2 days
[07:43] <apollo2011> are you on Breezy or Dapper? I am trying to do it on Dapper
[07:44] <MacAnthony> dapper - but this isn't a normal issue with dapper apollo2011
[07:44] <MacAnthony> I'm the only one I know of :)
[07:44] <pradeepto> MacAnthony: I generally update kde using non-X session.
[07:44] <MacAnthony> I didn't realize it was updating kde - at first at least
[07:45] <MacAnthony> and didn't actually get 3.5.2 installed until I did it without kde running
[07:45] <apollo2011> MacAnthony: yeah i know
[07:45] <MacAnthony> I was just doing an update from adept-updater - which stalled, froze and crashed
[07:46] <MacAnthony> that's what started it all
[07:47] <MacAnthony> I started out just trying to get my printer hooked up and ended up spending a fruitless hour and a half getting kde back up and running :)
[07:47] <MacAnthony> nice evening for me
[07:47] <nlindblad> upgrading to Dapper went smooth
[07:47] <nlindblad> as in, only ten broken packages
[07:48] <jpatrick> hi nlindblad
[07:48] <nlindblad> hi jpatrick
[07:48] <apollo2011> apparently the 3.5.2 packages are in the normal dapper repos
[07:48] <jpatrick> apollo2011: yes
[07:48] <nlindblad> jpatrick: the cute girl was here earlier!
[07:48] <trappist> only one broken here, and it wouldn't have been broken for most people
[07:49] <jpatrick> nlindblad: don't talk to me about that area, thanks
[07:49] <nlindblad> jpatrick: why not? :(
[07:49] <trappist> a) it's offtopic
[07:50] <Sergi0> gouchi what is ulteo going to be?
[07:50] <MacAnthony> I saw Riddell announced a new test of flight 6 - thought about installing a very bleading edge version :)
[07:51] <patrix> ulteo's gonna make 2006 the year of the Linux Desktop (tm)! just like 2005 was... 2004.. 2003.. etc ;)
[07:51] <zielony> Hey mates I have xgl working on Breezy ; D
[07:51] <patrix> LOL
[07:51] <patrix> zielony, congrats...
[07:51] <zielony> patrix: thx ; ] 
[07:51] <patrix> zielony, funny thing is I set my xchat to color the nicknames, and yours came out green. either xchat is intelligent, or this is one damn coincidence :D
[07:52] <zielony> patrix: haha zielony in polish =green ; D
[07:52] <patrix> yes I know, hence the funny part :)
[07:52] <patrix> hence why I laughed,  Imean
[07:53] <jjesse> !kerry
[07:53] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jjesse
[07:53] <jpatrick> !info kerry
[07:53] <nlindblad> girls being off-topic?
[07:54] <jpatrick> jjesse: strange
[07:54] <Sergi0> patrix hmm anywhay, i just need a simple-to-use system for my parents :)
[07:54] <patrix> Sergi0, pen and paper? ;)
[07:54] <Sergi0> :D
[07:56] <patrix> yea I'm also curious to see what Ulteo's gonna be like
[07:56] <patrix> but huh.. I was never a fan of Mandrake linux anyway
[07:59] <pradeepto> MacAnthony: where did you see that announcement
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[08:01] <MacAnthony> does ubotu repeat people's chats?
[08:02] <MacAnthony> like last?
[08:02] <pradeepto> thanks
[08:09] <p01n7> Kate is THE BEST editor i've ever used in my life!
[08:09] <p01n7> :)
[08:09] <jpatrick> p01n7: yep
[08:10] <p01n7> jpatrick, built in temrinal access.. line numbering.. syntax highlighting... file system browser... document browser.. project browser.. and alot more i haven't usd yet
[08:10] <jpatrick> I love it too
[08:10] <p01n7> props to the dev's on that project
[08:11] <p01n7> sure beats the hell out of IDLE for python projects
[08:11] <p01n7> o, and for python.. it automatically indents for you
[08:11] <p01n7> :D
[08:12] <robotgeek> kokurya^afk: can you please turn off public aways?
[08:12] <p01n7> jpatrick,is there anything better then kate?
[08:12] <robotgeek> vim :)
[08:13] <jpatrick> p01n7: not that i know of
[08:13] <pradeepto> heh
[08:13] <p01n7> pffft... vim is handy
[08:13] <p01n7> not great
[08:13] <p01n7> theres a diff
[08:13] <pradeepto> where are the emacs users when you need them :P
[08:13] <robotgeek> p01n7: wait till you use it with screen.
[08:13] <p01n7> auto indenting for pyhon?
[08:13] <p01n7> file system browser?
[08:14] <p01n7> project browser? ( oither then screen )
[08:14] <p01n7> ?
[08:14] <p01n7> :)
[08:15] <robotgeek> p01n7: auto-indent, yes. file system browser, yes. project browser (not sure)
[08:15] <p01n7> o?
[08:15] <pradeepto> p01n7: you cant win with robotgeek, I tell ya, I have tried it before. ;)
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[08:15] <p01n7> robotgeek, obviously doesn't understand how much kate OWNS vim
[08:15] <p01n7> :)
[08:15] <p01n7> for gui, anyway
[08:15] <pradeepto> slow-motion: heh
[08:15] <robotgeek> p01n7: i am from the "kill the rodent" side of things
[08:16] <pradeepto> heh
[08:17] <fabien> name X3n0n
[08:25] <nico8481> hi
[08:46] <ricardo> Anyone here have cedega installed?
[08:52] <jpatrick> ricardo: not me, sorry
[08:55] <nuky> arafat: hey, if you're still around, i think i have a solution for the java applet thing in konqueror... i got mine to work..
[08:58] <ricardo> thx
[09:00] <nuky> arafat: well, i hope you get this later, i found out through the ##java channel, basically i was using the path i got returned when i did "which java" in the konq settings, but by defatult, that's the gcl java, not the sun sdk java.. so you have to change the path to sun's java, for me it was /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java and it works great now.. i hope this helps you too :)
[09:01] <frank23> nuky: did you change the link manually?
[09:01] <frank23> !java
[09:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:02] <frank23> nuky: the last step to install sun java :  sudo update-alternatives --config java    it changes to symlink to sun java
[09:02] <ricardo> donwload it from the sun site
[09:03] <Johannes> Hi, anyone managed to upgrade to latest KDE? (using breezy badger)
[09:03] <nuky> oh i installed it through aptitude and it didn't change it.. and arafat was having probs with viewing applets too, so i thought this MIGHT be the case for him too
[09:03] <Johannes> when i try to login now it says "dcopserver not started" and then it restarts.
[09:03] <frank23> nuky: the deb doesn't change the link, you have to do it with update-alternatives --config java
[09:04] <frank23> Johannes: did the upgrade complete successfuly?
[09:04] <ricardo> i just intalled the sun java from web and t was ok
[09:04] <nuky> frank23: ooooh i see. thanks! :)
[09:05] <frank23> ricardo: with the sun installer? it works but its usually better to install .deb packages if you can
[09:05] <Johannes> frank23: i didnt see any errors. is there a log in /var/logs..?
[09:05] <frank23> Johannes: not sure.. you restarted X?
[09:06] <Johannes> frank23: yes. restarted x, restarted my pc... and now im without kde :(
[09:06] <Johannes> frank23: i cant start dcopserver either when i try. "no supported protocols"
[09:06] <Johannes> its hard to google without a decent browser :)
[09:06] <frank23> Johannes: you upgraded to kde 3.5.2?  not sure what the problem is
[09:06] <ricardo> i always used the package from the site, and never got problem
[09:07] <frank23> ricardo: yes but if you use the seveas repository for sun java for example, you'll get upgrades automatically and you never have to worry about it
[09:08] <Johannes> frank23: yes, i upgraded to 3.5.2
[09:08] <ricardo> i see
[09:08] <frank23> Johannes: does kdm start?
[09:08] <Johannes> frank23: i used mirror #3.
[09:09] <frank23> Johannes: the mirrors should all be identical
[09:09] <nuky> about the upgrade to 3.5.2, is there a solution to the double google search bars in konqueror after the upgrade? or the konsole settings error messages? i checked the kde forum but no mention of it..
[09:09] <Johannes> frank23: i can start kde, but after i login i get my progress-bar.. and it just stalls.
[09:09] <ricardo> im having problems to install my printer?  Its a Epson stylus color 670
[09:09] <frank23> Johannes: try  cd ~
[09:09] <Johannes> frank23: and after like 30 seconds or so, it says dcopserver isnt started, try again, and it restarts x.
[09:09] <frank23> Johannes: mv .kde .kdebackup
[09:10] <Johannes> frank23: done
[09:10] <Johannes> and then reboot?
[09:10] <frank23> nuky: try to find the extensions configuration, and remove the 2nd google bar
[09:10] <frank23> Johannes: no just try to log in again
[09:11] <Johannes> frank23: ok. gotto start kde then. brb.
[09:15] <johannes_> ok
[09:15] <johannes_> unfortunately it worked
[09:15] <johannes_> :)
[09:15] <frank23> johannes_: unfortunately?
[09:16] <johannes_> frank23: yes, because all my personal settings are gone.
[09:16] <johannes_> frank23: :)
[09:16] <johannes_> frank23: ie; kde looks like crap
[09:16] <callie> anyone here run enemy territory?
[09:16] <johannes_> callie: yes
[09:16] <frank23> johannes_: yeah I know....  maybe you can figure out the specific problem and restore your .kdebackup
[09:16] <callie> johannes_, any sound problems? what soundcard do you use?
[09:16] <johannes_> frank23: yupp.
[09:17] <johannes_> callie: its a common problem. the fix is in the ubuntu-wiki
[09:18] <johannes_> callie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[09:18] <callie> thanks johannes_  just got there ;)
[09:21] <johannes_> frank23: it seems to be a common problem; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22391
[09:21] <callie> johannes_, i've tried all that before, i get this error /dev/dsp: Invalid argument
[09:21] <callie> Could not set /dev/dsp to stereo=2------------------------------------ any clues ?
[09:22] <frank23> johannes_: I didn't have that problem..
[09:22] <oxez> hi, when I mount my usb drive (or mp3 player) on my computer, kde mounts it automatically, and everything works fine. But, when I delete a file on the usb drive itself, kde creates a .Trash inside the drive. How would I prevent this?
[09:23] <johannes_> callie: nope, if that didnt help i dont know.
[09:23] <johannes_> frank23: wrong link form me. this is the right one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152047
[09:23] <callie> thanks anyway johannes_ :D
[09:32] <nuky> frank23: thanks!!! i just removed one of the googlebar plugins.. any suggestions about the konsole setting error? when i go to Settings -> Configure Konsole, I get this: http://www.learningspirit.co.uk/konsole_error.png
[09:34] <frank23> nuky: I have no idea. I don't have that problem. If you want to try a cool alternative console, try yakuake.   its a console that slides from the top of the screen when you need it, like in quake
[09:34] <trappist> nuky: you have konsole installed?
[09:35] <trappist> nuky: if so you should have /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la
[09:39] <nuky> trappist: i have konsole installed, but i don't have that file for some reason.. i have a whole load of other files starting kcm_* in that folder though.. i'll try reinstalling konsole and see maybe.. but it should be a broken package in this case?
[09:40] <trappist> nuky: maybe it was fixed in dapper or in kde3.5.2
[09:40] <trappist> which is what I'm running
[09:40] <nuky> frank23: thanks, i'll try it out.. i love fun consoles.. i used to have the transparent on my desktop, that was nice too!
[09:40] <captainbraille> Hi, where do I go to find out what type of video card I have and how to set up OpenGL?
[09:41] <nuky> trappist: ah.. i'll google around, i know what i'm looking for a little more now.. thanks..
[09:42] <trappist> speaking of consoles - could one of you guys install (if necessary) eterm and run 'Eterm -x' in kde and tell me if it accepts focus?
[09:42] <callie> captainbraille, lspci is your friend here
[09:42] <callie> captainbraille, in a console enter lspci
[09:43] <captainbraille> callie: Thanks, okay, entered
[09:43] <callie> captainbraille, so you can see something that looks like a graphics card in that list?
[09:44] <callie> something like this ??? 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[09:44] <nuky> trappist: i just installed it, and yeah.. it accepts focus
[09:45] <trappist> weird
[09:45] <captainbraille> callie: yes, I see something about like that
[09:45] <trappist> nuky: thanks
[09:45] <trappist> I have to tweak the source a bit and rebuild for it to work right here
[09:45] <callie> captainbraille, wicked, thats your gfx card then ;)
[09:45] <captainbraille> callie: awesome =) thanks, how do I learn about OpenGL then?
[09:46] <callie> captainbraille, what kind of card is it?
[09:46] <captainbraille> callie: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01)
[09:49] <callie> captainbraille, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-via
[09:49] <callie> captainbraille, im not sure if that card supports open gl (i dont know that card) but thats the driver so if it does i imagine using that will sort it out for you
[09:51] <captainbraille> callie, okay thank you very much
[09:51] <callie> captainbraille, thank me when its working ;)
[09:51] <captainbraille> lol
[09:54] <sonic> Hi there, can anyone tell me how to check the group apache is running under?
[09:55] <nuky> frank23: hey, yakuake is really nice!! just trying to configure it.. thanks!
[09:56] <frank23> nuky: Yeah I noticed I always had a konsole open on every desktop so that keeps them hidden away but easily accessible
[09:58] <trappist> sonic: grep ^Group /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:00] <smoosh> hi, someones know how to run acrobat reader on amd64, without chroot32?
[10:01] <pradeepto> nuky: frank23 heh yukuake is really cool
[10:01] <pradeepto> awesome
[10:02] <sonic> trappist: thanks v much :-)
[10:03] <nuky> does anyone here mind showing me their kcm_konsole.la? i'm trying to create one to put it in the /usr/lib/kde3/ folder.. but i'm not getting very far finding one online!
[10:05] <MetaMorfoziS> hey
[10:05] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody use the xmm kicker applet?
[10:05] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody use any aplet in kicker?
[10:05] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i move it?
[10:05] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to reposition it
[10:06] <MetaMorfoziS> but with rightclikc i get the applet's popup
[10:06] <Tm_T> there should be handle in left side of applet
[10:06] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[10:06] <pradeepto> frank23: how can I start yakuake automagicall when I login
[10:06] <Tm_T> if not, then reenable handle and then move
[10:06] <MetaMorfoziS> you thinking the lock panels?
[10:06] <MetaMorfoziS> it's disabled
[10:06] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: no, not locking
[10:07] <MetaMorfoziS> where can i enable the handle?
[10:07] <Tm_T> rightclick kicker -> configure panel
[10:07] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: Appearance -> Advanced Options
[10:08] <MetaMorfoziS> ql
[10:08] <MetaMorfoziS> thank you
[10:08] <Snake__> Hey guys, I installed "The Hardware Book" from the repos, where did it install to/how can I access it??
[10:09] <jpatrick>  /usr/share/doc/packagename probably
[10:10] <Snake__> jpatrick: thanks! :)
[10:11] <MetaMorfoziS> I love increase the eyecandy!:)
[10:14] <MetaMorfoziS> at thistime i have this: http://metamorfozis.hu/p/desk.png
[10:14] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:15] <Tm_T> :/
[10:15] <trappist> nuky: .la files aren't text files.  you can't just create one.
[10:16] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: too dark for my liking
[10:17] <frank23> pradeepto: if it's on when you log out, I think it starts back when you log in
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, you say good
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> but i'm very little time's saw my wallpaper:D
[10:17] <pradeepto> frank23: thanks
[10:18] <nuky> trappist: yeah, i realised.. i had an old linux system on a hard drive (long story!) i copied the kcm_konsole.la and kcm_konsole.so from there and the settings dialog is back to normal now! tried the main changes that i wanted to make and it's not crashed on me or anything so will leave it till a better solution comes along.. thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> and i fet fed up this picture fast:) and search other
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> but today its better.
[10:22] <trappist> nuky: awesome
[10:30] <Otis> evening chaps ... any idea why it takes ~1 minute for krdc to connect to the remote krfb ?
[10:39] <__dom> hello
[10:55] <Petecakes> Can someone direct me to a guide for mounting flashdrives?
[10:57] <ninHer> hi all
[10:57] <robotgeek> Petecakes: it should automount?
[10:57] <robotgeek> in /media/
[10:59] <Petecakes> robotgeek; it hasn't automounted
[11:00] <robotgeek> Petecakes: plug and unplug your usb, and type this in Konsole "dmesg | tail -f"
[11:02] <Petecakes> doesn't work
[11:02] <robotgeek> Petecakes: what does dmesg tell you?
[11:03] <Blissex> Petecakes: there is a USB flash HOWTO, just do a search with the obvious keywords.
[11:05] <ninHer> Petecakes: what about your fstab ?
[11:05] <Petecakes> ninHer; what about it?
[11:06] <ninHer> have you writed one line to config /media/usb?
[11:06] <Petecakes> ninHer; no, not yet.
[11:06] <ninHer> it was required in my Kubuntu Dapper to work
[11:07] <Petecakes> Heh, I should really get around to getting the 'net on my Kubuntu PC...all this running back and forward is annoying <_<
[11:07] <ninHer> Petecakes: something like.....
[11:07] <ninHer> ######/dev/sda1       /media/usb      vfat defaults,user,noauto 0     0
[11:09] <robotgeek> myndmelder: please turn off public aways
[11:10] <Kr4t05> mkay
[11:12] <ziza> i got a strange problem here: in konqueror, when you do a right click on a folder you can choose in the "Move to" sub-menu where you want to move it. But it's not there anymore!!! Neither "Copy to" is!
[11:13] <ziza> maybe it was disabled by an update (using Dapper), does anybody know where I can enable this again? i already looked in the konqueror settings...
[11:14] <robotgeek> ziza: weird.
[11:14] <ziza> indeed :)
[11:14] <ninHer> lol
[11:15] <ziza> ok, I restarted my Konqueror instance, and all is fine now!
[11:15] <ziza> incredible
[11:18] <vge> hmm, whats a good gui program to check how mutch data im downloading?
[11:19] <ninHer> iptraf is just right
[11:20] <Petecakes> ninHer, I've added it to fstab now, and it's appearing under Storage Media and automounting onto my desktop, but when I click it I get a "Special device /media/sda1 does not exist" error. I've also tried renaming it to sdb1, it doesn't work either.
[11:20] <Petecakes> When I do sudo lsusb, I can see that my flash drive is under "Bus 002 Device 005", if that's any help
[11:22] <ninHer> Petecakes: ...then, go to the desktop and right click//new device//hard drive and...
[11:23] <ninHer> when created, open Properties and set /media/usb
[11:25] <tchize> Hello
[11:25] <ninHer> hi tchize
[11:25] <ninHer> bye tchize
[11:26] <Kr4t05> !alien
[11:26] <ubotu> methinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[11:28] <Petecakes> ninHer; same error still: "Special device /dev/sda1 does not exist"
[11:29] <ninHer> so, may be some module has to be installed
[11:30] <ninHer> try usbmgr or usbtools
[11:41] <tchize> hi
[11:41] <ziza> hi
[11:41] <Kyral> hmm
[11:41] <ziza> is there a tool that can vacuum clean a vmdk-file? (Virtual Machine Disk)
[11:42] <Kyral> would I be a traitor if I changed my desktop over to ArchLinux?
[11:42] <tchize> i think the answer is obvious, but i'll ask in case someone has any idea. I just installed a wifi card in my kubuntu, hardware seems detected ok (i get a ra0 wireless interface), but when i issue 'sudo dhclient' just after the client return, my kernel freeze!!
[11:43] <Blippe> Kyral, yes, we would have to find you and "take care" of you!
[11:44] <azurehuesofblue> this is sort of a n00b question, but in Firefox 1.5 it says the plugins quicktime, windows media player, and shockwave are unavailable... so how do I get around that?
[11:47] <Kyral> I don't wanna, but for some reason its randomly seizin up on me
[11:47] <_jeff> hey guys
[11:48] <_jeff> is the package for flash libflash-mozplugin?
[11:48] <Kyral> only started after a fresh install of Flight 5
[11:49] <_jeff> whats flight %?
[11:49] <_jeff> dapper?
[11:49] <Kyral> 5
[11:49] <_jeff> whats the package you need to view flash in konqueror?
[11:50] <_jeff> libflash-mozplugin?
[11:51] <_static> same package i think as mozilla
[11:51] <xstation> hello
[11:52] <robotgeek> _jeff: flashplayer-nonfree , maybe?
[11:52] <_jeff> thanks, ill try it
[11:53] <xstation> just like to know how to use KGpg so that encrypts a message with not your key but with the recepients key read the man but cannot find a solution
[11:56] <ziza> cool, i managed to make some sub-menus in the right-click context menu in Konqueror to disappear, again :)
[11:57] <ziza> does somebody have KDE 3.5.2? i want him/her to try confirming this bug
[11:57] <_static> nope
[11:58] <_jeff> how do you get it?
[11:58] <ziza> i open an archive
[11:58] <robotgeek> ziza: what?
[11:58] <ziza> with ark
[11:58] <_static> isnt thaT in beta?
[11:58] <ziza> beta? it's a bug fix release
[11:59] <ziza> then you drag a random file from ark to Konqueror
[11:59] <_static> anyone noticed the right click bug you right click and the menu appares for a second then dissapears?/
[11:59] <ziza> and afterwards the bug should manifest :)
[11:59] <ziza> i think i'm going to try it again
[12:00] <robotgeek> ziza: nope, can't reproduce
[12:01] <ziza> hm, restarting konqueror helped to remove the bug, but now it doesn't work anymore
[12:01] <ziza> if i right-click on a folder/file some sub-menus are missing
[12:02] <nuky> hi, is there a windows html help viwer for linux? i have a windows html help version of the java documentation and would be nice if i could view it.. search and the like are a little easier with it..
[12:02] <_static> bluefish?