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| LaserJock | Burgwork: really? | 12:22 |
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| Burgwork | me publisher bought it for me. Industrial espionage | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | nice | 12:23 |
| Burgwork | too bad they Ubuntu Linux and not Ubuntu, which is our actual name | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | my grandpa used to take my grandma around the country on industrial espionage trips ;-) | 12:24 |
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| k31th | yo | 12:30 |
| k31th | right | 12:31 |
| k31th | shall i write some thing on wlan | 12:31 |
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| -banbot:#ubuntu-doc- lol g, join #bant0wn and get hugs visit http://binrev.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #ubuntu-doc SUCKS | 01:09 | |
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| k31th | hum does kate work with docbook? | 02:49 |
| LaserJock | I don't see why it wouldn't | 02:52 |
| Burgwork | k31th, yes | 02:53 |
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| robotgeek | Burgundavia: wth was the banbot? | 05:14 |
| Burgundavia | robotgeek: no idea, it was some random troll hitting a bunch of chans | 05:14 |
| robotgeek | tor abuser | 05:15 |
| Burgundavia | sadly yes | 05:17 |
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| robotgeek | mdke_: does the omf file in kubuntu direcotyr serve any purpose, it's very outta shape :) | 06:21 |
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| robotgeek | howdy Madpilot | 07:31 |
| Madpilot | hi robotgeek | 07:31 |
| robotgeek | brb, need to reload screen | 07:31 |
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| robotgeek | howdy LaserJock | 07:43 |
| Madpilot | EasyUbuntu made LWN.net | 07:45 |
| robotgeek | damn | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | hi robotgeek | 07:45 |
| Burgundavia | very good | 07:45 |
| Madpilot | actually linux.com, but lwn picked it up | 07:46 |
| Madpilot | http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/03/23/1653209 | 07:46 |
| robotgeek | oh well, the improvements are all in svn. | 07:47 |
| robotgeek | Madpilot: thanks for the info. i gotta get back to proofreading now | 07:56 |
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| mdke_ | robotgeek, no purpose | 08:33 |
| robotgeek | mdke_: okay, just doing some cleanup of desktop guide before meeting tommorow | 08:33 |
| mdke_ | mpt, what do you mean by "the way its authors are grouped"? | 08:34 |
| mdke_ | robotgeek, the equivalent of the omf files for kubuntu are in khelpdesktop | 08:51 |
| robotgeek | cool, as long as i don't have to mess wit hit :) | 08:52 |
| mdke_ | no | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I'll give a status report on the packaging guide at the doc team meeting tomorrow, ok? | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | mdke: work is kicking my butt :( however, I got a little help from raphink yesterday and today. | 08:55 |
| mdke | LaserJock, you don't have to ask my permission :) that's great | 08:55 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: saw lots of work in one commit | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I'm updating the status attributes as I go so the status report should be fairly current | 08:55 |
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| mdke | rock | 08:56 |
| mdke | mpt_, did you get my hilight above? | 08:56 |
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| irvin | Madpilot, ping? | 09:34 |
| Madpilot | irvin, hi | 09:35 |
| irvin | hi! are you the maintainer of the desktop guide on doc.ubuntu.com ? | 09:35 |
| Madpilot | irvin, I'm one of them - mdke is the other | 09:35 |
| irvin | is the guide targeted for dapper? i found one issue on installing the flash plugin | 09:36 |
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| irvin | the guide points out installing flashplayer-mozilla but the package does not exist in dapper | 09:37 |
| irvin | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=flashplayer-mozilla&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all | 09:37 |
| Madpilot | irvin, the one in our SVN & at doc.ubuntu.com is for Dapper | 09:37 |
| irvin | it does however exists in breezy | 09:37 |
| crimsun | flashplayer-mozilla was removed upon my request because it is 1) illegal to distribute from our repos in binary format, 2) obsoleted by flashplugin-nonfree | 09:37 |
| Madpilot | OK | 09:38 |
| irvin | crimsun, yup, flashplugin-nonfree would be the package for dapper | 09:38 |
| robotgeek | ty | 09:38 |
| irvin | :) | 09:39 |
| Madpilot | I'm not yet running Dapper myself - but it's just a swap of flashplugin-nonfree for the -mozilla package? | 09:39 |
| irvin | Madpilot, yes. but it's worth checking the java plugin too | 09:39 |
| mpt_ | mdke, as in, the people working on the Foo Guide, the people working on the Bar Guide, the people working on the Hum Guide | 09:41 |
| Madpilot | mpt_, ?? | 09:42 |
| mpt_ | for various values of Foo, Bar, and Hum | 09:42 |
| mpt_ | I'm not explaining myself well, am I :-/ | 09:42 |
| robotgeek | mpt_: nope | 09:42 |
| mpt_ | clear as mud | 09:43 |
| mpt_ | ok | 09:43 |
| robotgeek | irvin: i take it that it's only x86 | 09:44 |
| irvin | robotgeek, yes | 09:44 |
| Madpilot | robotgeek, if you update the Flash stuff for KDG, I'll just borrow for UDG - thanks | 09:45 |
| mpt_ | mdke, what I'm trying to say is that I'd still like to see one day, opening the help viewer, to see things like "Adding & Removing Programs", "Getting online", "Printing", "Troubleshooting", etc *on the front page* | 09:45 |
| Madpilot | mpt_, so have the desktop guide open rather than the current top level of Yelp? | 09:45 |
| mpt_ | Madpilot, I don't particularly care *how* it's implemented | 09:46 |
| robotgeek | Madpilot: i have konq stuff, you might have to search replace | 09:46 |
| Madpilot | robotgeek, I'll plunder, probably over the weekend, unless Matt gets to it first | 09:47 |
| mpt_ | Madpilot, maybe instead of a "Desktop Guide" there could be a "Getting Online Guide" and a "Printing Guide" and a "Troubleshooting Guide" and so on | 09:47 |
| mpt_ | and then just drop the word "Guide" from all of them :-) | 09:47 |
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| robotgeek | mpt_: maybe too late in the game? | 09:50 |
| Madpilot | mpt_, the desktop guide could do with a large shakeup for Dapper+1 - start a spec so we can argue about it | 09:50 |
| Madpilot | irvin, what do you mean about the Java guide, btw? | 09:51 |
| irvin | Madpilot, hold on for a sec, i'll double check first | 09:51 |
| mpt_ | robotgeek, Madpilot, I wrote the spec at UDU | 09:51 |
| Madpilot | mpt_, URL? | 09:52 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot: where are we at with the desktop guide? can I play with reviewing this weekend? | 09:52 |
| irvin | Madpilot, oops... false alarm. | 09:52 |
| mpt_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpfulHelp | 09:53 |
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| Madpilot | Burgundavia, as far as I can tell, the Ubuntu DG is done, barring typos & some changes like this flash plugin thing | 09:53 |
| mpt_ | see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHelp/Contents | 09:53 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot: ok, I will peer at it on Sat or Sunday | 09:53 |
| mpt_ | but yeah, Dapper+n I guess | 09:54 |
| Burgundavia | can we create a pseudo-document to use as the main page, instead of the current listing | 09:54 |
| Burgundavia | I seem to remember some sort of technical issue with having a document as the main page | 09:54 |
| Madpilot | mpt_, we've got most of the content for /UbuntuHelp/Contents, just arranged differently from that spec | 09:55 |
| mpt_ | great | 09:56 |
| irvin | anyway i'm off guys...sorry for the noise ;) | 09:58 |
| robotgeek | irvin: later, thanks :) | 09:58 |
| robotgeek | Madpilot: it's just a oneliner :) | 09:59 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot: the instructions in the dvd playback section are not enough to get dvds playing | 10:00 |
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| Madpilot | mpt_, the one big hole in our desktop guide is the networking section - there's zip about linking to other machines (with any OS) - compared to the UbuntuHelp spec | 10:02 |
| mdke | mpt_, oh right. Surely you have a copy of dapper and you can see that isn't implemented yet | 10:02 |
| mdke | Madpilot, robotgeek, the mozilla flash plugin might still be shipped with dapper. Infinity is contacting macromedia about it | 10:03 |
| Madpilot | mdke, OK, I'll leave that for now | 10:04 |
| robotgeek | mdke: konq doesn't need a plugin :) | 10:04 |
| mdke | ok | 10:04 |
| robotgeek | i can't verify it anyways, i'll mark as Help! | 10:04 |
| mdke | if infinity doesn't manage to get the plugin back, we can include instructions about installing from the install package | 10:05 |
| Madpilot | gah. Flash is such a damned irritation... :P | 10:06 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 10:06 |
| mdke | yes, but it's not too hard to install | 10:07 |
| Burgundavia | we have a serious issue with dvd that we are going to need to address asap | 10:07 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, in the guide? | 10:07 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 10:07 |
| mdke | argh. what issue? | 10:07 |
| Burgundavia | the instructions don't work, I just tried them | 10:07 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia, hmm. "insert DVD, wait for Totem to start" doesn't work in Dapper? | 10:07 |
| mdke | Madpilot, the instructions include the libdvdcss stuff | 10:07 |
| robotgeek | i think Kubuntu will be fine as we don't use gstreamer | 10:07 |
| Madpilot | right | 10:08 |
| Burgundavia | yes, they don't include the logic to link gstreamer with the dvd stuff | 10:08 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, what is the logic? | 10:08 |
| mdke | we can add it | 10:08 |
| Burgundavia | gstreamer0.10-dvd, which doesn't exist yet | 10:08 |
| mdke | ok | 10:08 |
| mdke | we may have to recommend another player for dvds then | 10:09 |
| mdke | we'll see if it exists or not | 10:09 |
| robotgeek | so people would be using totem-xine with libdvdcss? | 10:09 |
| Burgundavia | not been ported because Fluendo cannot pay someone to do it, for fear of opening themselves up | 10:09 |
| Burgundavia | let me play. I may have a solution yet | 10:09 |
| mdke | robotgeek, I would favour just installing xine | 10:09 |
| mdke | no need to play around with mucking up totem-gstreamer | 10:09 |
| Madpilot | anyway, need sleep. I'll catch up on patent stupidity & media player entertainment tomorrow... | 10:10 |
| mdke | heh, night | 10:10 |
| Burgundavia | let me see if gxine works | 10:10 |
| robotgeek | it plays fine in breezy, i watched a season of "X" in it | 10:10 |
| robotgeek | i forgot what X is, Ray Romano | 10:10 |
| Burgundavia | robotgeek: gstreamer has changed major versions since breezyt | 10:10 |
| mdke | [09:10:31] < mdke> is there any sign of a gstreamer0.10-dvd from upstream? | 10:10 |
| mdke | [09:10:38] < seb128_> no | 10:10 |
| mdke | he's so blunt, gotta love im | 10:11 |
| robotgeek | Everybody Loves Raymond. <sigh> | 10:11 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, does totem work if you install -ugly? | 10:11 |
| Burgundavia | mdke: nope | 10:12 |
| mdke | seb says it does | 10:12 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, let me confirm | 10:12 |
| Burgundavia | I have all of ugly installed. I will confirm with a fresh flight 6 tomorrow | 10:12 |
| mdke | i'll check too | 10:12 |
| Burgundavia | so much work, so little time | 10:14 |
| Burgundavia | mdke: what do you think of swapping out kino for pitivi for video editing? | 10:15 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, I have no experience with either of em. which is better? | 10:16 |
| Burgundavia | pitivi is newer | 10:16 |
| Burgundavia | nicer UI, but I have no idea which is more stable | 10:16 |
| mdke | maybe we should include both, so people can compare | 10:17 |
| robotgeek | create a wiki page and point them there | 10:17 |
| mdke | i prefer including things in the guide, if possible | 10:18 |
| Burgundavia | ick | 10:18 |
| Burgundavia | maybe we should leave kino in for this release | 10:19 |
| Burgundavia | pitivi devs say it is alpha quality | 10:19 |
| mdke | ok. maybe a oneliner at the end saying, these other applications exist for video editing: X, Y | 10:19 |
| mdke | ? | 10:20 |
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| Burgundavia | ya | 10:23 |
| mdke | are there any other applications that are good we could mention? | 10:23 |
| Burgundavia | ok, I truly regret ignoring the desktop guide until now | 10:23 |
| mdke | no problem, you have a week :) | 10:23 |
| Burgundavia | right | 10:24 |
| robotgeek | hmm, sound sucks in both the guides | 10:24 |
| Burgundavia | sound sucks in linux in general, tbh | 10:26 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, so will you do the pitivi addition, or shall I? | 10:38 |
| robotgeek | alrite, me bed. later | 10:38 |
| robotgeek | okay, let me add to agenda :) | 10:39 |
| robotgeek | alrite, cya all at the meeting tommorow :) | 10:42 |
| Burgundavia | mdke: you can. I don't have write access from this box | 10:43 |
| mdke | ok | 10:43 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, I've written this: | 10:44 |
| mdke | <para>You can also try the <application>PiTiVi</application video editor by installing the <application>pitivi</application package from the <emphasis>Universe</emphasis> repository (see <xref linkend="add-applications"/>). <application>PiTiVi</application> is a video editor for the GNOME desktop. It is still in fairly early development, but worth a try.</para> | 10:44 |
| mdke | tell me if that's ok | 10:44 |
| Burgundavia | sounds good | 10:44 |
| mdke | ok | 10:46 |
| mdke | tell me if you see anything else | 10:49 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | i noticed that the wiki team email is the doc team email - does that mean i ask questions about the wiki here? | 01:26 |
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| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, yes | 02:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. I was a bit confused about making subpages on the wiki - if you want a page to branch off from another page do you prefix it with / ? and the other question was 'which software runs the ubuntu wiki'? | 02:27 |
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| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, moinmoin is the answer to q2 | 03:05 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, as for a subpage, are you talking about creating one, or linking to one? | 03:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mdke: making one. i want to add a sub page to my wiki home to put work in progress stuff | 03:06 |
| mdke | ok, just enter the name of the page you want | 03:07 |
| mdke | so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KampingKaiser/NewPageName, for example | 03:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh, that easy? ok. thanks | 03:08 |
| jjesse | anyone else having problems staying logged in onto the wiki? | 03:10 |
| trappist | jjesse: I stay logged into the wiki even between reboots. never have had a problem. | 04:00 |
| jjesse | are you running kubuntu or ubuntu? | 04:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | my god - i just spent 4 hours trying to work out why a doc didnt validate - a space in front of the xml declaration | 04:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | now it's finding other errs. GRR | 04:06 |
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| trappist | jjesse: kubuntu | 04:17 |
| jjesse | trappist: i rebooted and it solved my problem ? | 04:17 |
| jjesse | wierd | 04:17 |
| trappist | I get creeped out when rebooting linux solves a problem like that | 04:17 |
| trappist | if I write a macro for the wiki, who should I send it to? | 04:18 |
| trappist | I was thinking I'd like to write a series of moinmoin macros for making links to launchpad objects like bugs, projects, people etc. | 04:19 |
| mdke | henrik@ | 04:21 |
| mdke | awesome idea btw | 04:21 |
| trappist | that's @ubuntu.com? | 04:21 |
| mdke | yes | 04:21 |
| trappist | cool, thanks | 04:22 |
| trappist | I think that'll be a post-freeze project of mine then | 04:22 |
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| mdke | I've been playing with something | 05:48 |
| jjesse | yeah? | 05:48 |
| mdke | I've made an index page for the documentation in xml | 05:48 |
| jjesse | anything good | 05:49 |
| mdke | and some build scripts to build the whole website | 05:49 |
| jjesse | sounds like fun | 05:49 |
| mdke | it looks like this: http://mdke.org/images/help-index.png | 05:49 |
| mdke | it should mean that that index page is translatable too, and hopefully that making the website with all the translations can be done really simply | 05:50 |
| jjesse | that would be cool | 05:50 |
| mdke | i might upload it | 05:51 |
| mdke | i haven't completely figured out translation though | 05:54 |
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| mdke | let me know what you think: http://help.ubuntu.com/Dapper/ | 06:08 |
| mdke | oh yeah, forgot the install guide | 06:29 |
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| trappist | I expected it to be bigger for some reason | 06:30 |
| mdke | the index? | 06:31 |
| trappist | yeah | 06:33 |
| mdke | what's missing? | 06:34 |
| trappist | I don't guess anything... I thought the top level list would be longer than that. | 06:35 |
| mdke | trappist, any idea how to make a script which goes to the archive, fishes out the latest debs of the installation-guide, extracts them, and copies the files to the build directory? | 06:37 |
| mdke | you're a knowledgeable chap | 06:37 |
| mdke | actually, I wonder if what we want to do is get the source, apply a few patches and build the documents with the same style as the other docs | 06:38 |
| mdke | hmm | 06:38 |
| robotgeek | we should stop building our pages. just use the xml with a style sheet :P | 06:41 |
| trappist | cool, robotgeek volunteered to write the xsl :) | 06:41 |
| robotgeek | trappist: lol. | 06:41 |
| mdke | the xsl is there, but robotgeek has to teach firefox to read xml | 06:41 |
| robotgeek | we only need to have a css, and tell the xml file to use the style sheet. | 06:42 |
| robotgeek | it won't work in in ie6, i think | 06:42 |
| robotgeek | i'm not the css/xml/xhtml guru :) | 06:43 |
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| mdke | firefox can convert docbook to html on the fly? | 06:43 |
| robotgeek | yup. let me pull up a link | 06:43 |
| robotgeek | http://www.mcs.csuhayward.edu/~grewe/CS6320/Mat/XML/SampleWCSS.html | 06:44 |
| robotgeek | http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/x-dw-x-xmlcss-i.html | 06:44 |
| mdke | that isn't docbook though, right? | 06:45 |
| mdke | hrmph, looks clever | 06:46 |
| robotgeek | i tried to change it, but the xslt stuff was too difficult for me | 06:47 |
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| mdke | dudes: i may not make it to the meeting, have a good one | 09:14 |
| LaserJock | mdk:! | 09:16 |
| LaserJock | mdke: bummer dude | 09:16 |
| mdke | LaserJock, is there something I can help with now? | 09:16 |
| mdke | by the way, is that doc-base thing fixed? | 09:16 |
| LaserJock | mdke: no, I just like it when you are at the meeting ;-) | 09:17 |
| LaserJock | the doc-base thing is fixed for Ubuntu | 09:17 |
| LaserJock | but not Kubuntu | 09:18 |
| mdke | ok, fair enough | 09:18 |
| mdke | got to go now, catch you later maybe | 09:18 |
| LaserJock | If I have time I'll certainly try to get the Kubuntu docs done | 09:19 |
| LaserJock | they should be easier than the Ubuntu docs | 09:19 |
| Burgwork | mdke, the website probably shouldn't be at /dapper/ | 09:36 |
| jjesse | LaserJock: i won't be at the meeting either tonight :( | 09:39 |
| LaserJock | ughh | 09:39 |
| jjesse | sorry 2100 UTC is hard to do for me | 09:39 |
| jjesse | hmm wait i did the math wrong i think | 09:40 |
| jjesse | i did i'll be there | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | ok, sweet | 09:40 |
| trappist | 2100 UTC Fridays does kinda suck | 09:40 |
| trappist | that's quittin' time here | 09:41 |
| trappist | at -0600 | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | trappist: 3:00 ? | 09:42 |
| trappist | did I do the math wrong too? I thought that meant 5pm | 09:42 |
| trappist | dang it I did | 09:42 |
| trappist | so never mind | 09:42 |
| trappist | 1500 != 5pm | 09:42 |
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| trappist | no kidding | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | I cheat and use iCal ;-) | 09:43 |
| trappist | after 6 years in the marine corps you'd think I could handle a 24 hour clock | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | lol | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm going to have to leave at 22:00 because I've got a meeting to write a constitution for a Chemistry Graduate Student Association | 09:45 |
| trappist | those things have constitutions? | 09:52 |
| LaserJock | if we want official recognition (and money) from the university we do | 09:54 |
| trappist | cool | 09:54 |
| jjesse | 22:00 UTC is quitting time for me :) | 09:54 |
| trappist | you guys hiring? ;) | 09:54 |
| LaserJock | jjesse: what is that local? | 09:54 |
| jjesse | 5pm | 09:54 |
| jjesse | i'm in EST, -5 GMT | 09:55 |
| LaserJock | ah, I'm -8, Pacific | 09:55 |
| mdke | Burgwork, how come? | 09:59 |
| Burgwork | mdke, the official name of the release is 6.06, not dapper | 10:02 |
| Burgwork | this has been a major source of confusion before and we should not be perpetuating it | 10:02 |
| mdke | sabdfl asked for it, but I don't know if he is attached to "Dapper" rather than 6.06 | 10:03 |
| mdke | I'll ask if it's ok to change it | 10:03 |
| jjesse | so will there be a /6.06 and then a /whateverthenextrelease date is? | 10:04 |
| mdke | yes, and we'll keep 5.10 too, I would think | 10:04 |
| jjesse | cool, don't forget to add the release notes :) | 10:04 |
| Burgwork | is . a valid part of url? | 10:04 |
| mdke | jjesse, i won't :) | 10:05 |
| mdke | Burgwork, i don't know | 10:05 |
| mdke | don't see why not | 10:05 |
| Burgwork | ok | 10:05 |
| mdke | yes, seems to work | 10:07 |
| mdke | we'll have to change the link in gnome-panel | 10:08 |
| jjesse | are there references in kubuntu to it? | 10:10 |
| mdke | not in gnome-panel, no | 10:12 |
| jjesse | but are there other references to help.ubuntu.com in anything for kuubntu? | 10:13 |
| mdke | I have no idea | 10:14 |
| jjesse | on the packaging guide and the server guide is there a way to take out the Ubuntu and refer it somehow to theversion that you are using? | 10:14 |
| jjesse | so it looks like the "Kubuntu Server Guide" and "Kubuntu Packaging Guide" | 10:15 |
| jjesse | khelpcenter in the contents section has it as kubuntu server guide, but when you open it up it says "ubuntu server guide" | 10:15 |
| mdke | I can't think of a way to do that, I'm afraid | 10:16 |
| jjesse | bummer | 10:17 |
| mdke | they should probably be called the same thing in the khelpcentre stuff... not sure | 10:17 |
| mdke | we could change them to "Ubuntu Server/Packaging Guide" | 10:17 |
| mdke | up to you | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | yeah, is there a naming scheme that is neutral? | 10:18 |
| jjesse | could we just call them Server Guide and Packaging Guide | 10:18 |
| LaserJock | when I say Ubuntu I mean the big umbrella (Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu) | 10:18 |
| LaserJock | jjesse: we could but there are Ubuntu ( i.e. not Debian) specific things in the Packaging Guide | 10:19 |
| mdke | LaserJock, yeah. jjesse, I think they need some identification with the operating system | 10:19 |
| jjesse | mdke: makes sense that way how do i change khelpcenter? | 10:19 |
| mdke | edit the files in trunk/kubuntu/khelpdesktop | 10:20 |
| jjesse | still waiting on password ;) | 10:22 |
| mdke | ok, I'll do it. | 10:22 |
| mdke | I haven't emailed yet: I am waiting on a response from luzi and i was going to email all at once | 10:23 |
| jjesse | ah ok | 10:23 |
| mdke | if he doesn't respond I'll just send off for you and trappist | 10:24 |
| trappist | sorry, I wasn't following the conversation - send off for what? | 10:27 |
| mdke | commit access | 10:29 |
| trappist | oh cool | 10:30 |
| mdke | Burgwork, what's the apress book like? | 10:36 |
| jjesse | is that the official ubuntu book? | 10:37 |
| jjesse | or a different one? | 10:37 |
| mdke | jjesse, i thought your one was the "official" one ;) | 10:37 |
| mdke | http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10086 | 10:38 |
| jjesse | yeah it is, but burgwork is working on it as well | 10:38 |
| jjesse | i loose track of the different ubuntu books coming out | 10:38 |
| mdke | heh | 10:39 |
| jjesse | do a search on amazon | 10:39 |
| Burgwork | mdke, not bad. A little techy. My editor bought it for me so we can compare | 10:39 |
| jjesse | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0132435942/sr=8-2/qid=1143661668/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-0903874-8555820?%5Fencoding=UTF8 is the official book | 10:39 |
| mdke | Burgwork, someone from apress mailed me and asked me to give it a review on my blog hahaha | 10:40 |
| jjesse | wasn't it just reviewed on slashdot as well? | 10:41 |
| mdke | yeah, it got 9/10 apparently | 10:41 |
| Burgwork | the apress book was technically reviewed by John Hornbeck | 10:41 |
| trappist | Burgwork: hey were you still looking for that printer guy? | 10:41 |
| mdke | right, it's been published already | 10:41 |
| Burgwork | no, I mean it was reviewed by John before it went to press (checked might be a better term) | 10:42 |
| Burgwork | trappist, not certin | 10:42 |
| Burgwork | given I am going to be in Lawton, OK at the end of April, I will see if I can meet up with John | 10:43 |
| mdke | just socially, or for doc related reasons? | 10:45 |
| Burgwork | socially | 10:45 |
| robotgeek | meeting in 10 minutes? | 10:50 |
| mgalvin | hey all, DapperFlight6 is about all done in case anyone has time to give it a quick review | 10:52 |
| Burgwork | mgalvin, flight 6 just got released, so you had better copy it to the website too | 10:54 |
| Burgwork | s/too/soon | 10:54 |
| mgalvin | was the email sent already? i didn't see it yet | 10:54 |
| jjesse | mgalvin: excellent work as usuall | 10:54 |
| jjesse | didn't see the email either | 10:54 |
| mdke | it's not mirrored yet, see -devel | 10:54 |
| mgalvin | jjesse: thanks :) | 10:54 |
| jjesse | today's daily kubuntu is flight6 for kubuntu users :) | 10:54 |
| Burgwork | mail is going to be sent in the morning | 10:55 |
| jjesse | now if i can just clear somethings out do to the kubuntu flights :) | 10:55 |
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| jjesse | dang it why can i never remember which packages i need to build the docteam stuff? | 11:32 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: i saw the new docs, yay | 11:32 |
| jjesse | robotgeek: which new docs? | 11:33 |
| mdke | jjesse, read kubuntu/debian/control for the packages you need | 11:33 |
| jjesse | oh in flight6 | 11:33 |
| LaserJock | docbook-xsl | 11:33 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: the kubuntu-docs package :) | 11:33 |
| Burgwork | mdke, the idea of migrating everything to docudo really appeals to me, provided it can do docbook, etc. | 11:41 |
| Burgwork | merging wiki and offline | 11:42 |
| mdke | i haven't taken a look yet | 11:42 |
| Burgwork | http://www.turbogears.org/svn/docudo/trunk/doc/todo.txt | 11:42 |
| mdke | ok, I've added releasenotes and moved the url: http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ | 11:45 |
| trappist | I've got it checked out and prereqs installed but it's kicking my butt | 11:48 |
| mdke | mm? | 11:49 |
| Burgwork | trappist, for docudo? | 11:50 |
| trappist | yeah | 11:50 |
| trappist | a fresh install of turbogears seems to be missing functions docudo expects to find | 11:51 |
| Burgwork | might it need cvs versions of turbogears? | 11:51 |
| trappist | that would suck. nothing in the docs about that. | 11:52 |
| Burgwork | ask the TG guys | 11:53 |
| mdke | night | 12:00 |
| Burgwork | trappist, you working on dapper or breezy? | 12:01 |
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| robotgeek | hmm, i moved my job search data base to moin :) | 12:02 |
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