=== Burgwork now owns Ubuntu Linux: From Novice to Professional [12:22] Burgwork: really? [12:23] me publisher bought it for me. Industrial espionage [12:23] nice [12:24] too bad they Ubuntu Linux and not Ubuntu, which is our actual name [12:24] my grandpa used to take my grandma around the country on industrial espionage trips ;-) === Kyral [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:30] yo [12:31] right [12:31] shall i write some thing on wlan === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === banbot [n=banbot@tor/session/x-bbc14166fd963e8d] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:09] -banbot:#ubuntu-doc- lol g, join #bant0wn and get hugs visit http://binrev.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #ubuntu-doc SUCKS === banbot [n=banbot@tor/session/x-bbc14166fd963e8d] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@219-89-140-58.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:49] hum does kate work with docbook? [02:52] I don't see why it wouldn't [02:53] k31th, yes === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.228.86] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-142-121.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-130-92.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-167-82.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:14] Burgundavia: wth was the banbot? [05:14] robotgeek: no idea, it was some random troll hitting a bunch of chans [05:15] tor abuser [05:17] sadly yes === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:21] mdke_: does the omf file in kubuntu direcotyr serve any purpose, it's very outta shape :) === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@219-89-147-84.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:31] howdy Madpilot [07:31] hi robotgeek [07:31] brb, need to reload screen === robotgeek [i=venkat@digital.celebris.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:43] howdy LaserJock [07:45] EasyUbuntu made LWN.net [07:45] damn [07:45] hi robotgeek [07:45] very good [07:46] actually linux.com, but lwn picked it up [07:46] http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/03/23/1653209 [07:47] oh well, the improvements are all in svn. [07:56] Madpilot: thanks for the info. i gotta get back to proofreading now === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:33] robotgeek, no purpose [08:33] mdke_: okay, just doing some cleanup of desktop guide before meeting tommorow [08:34] mpt, what do you mean by "the way its authors are grouped"? [08:51] robotgeek, the equivalent of the omf files for kubuntu are in khelpdesktop [08:52] cool, as long as i don't have to mess wit hit :) [08:53] no [08:54] mdke: I'll give a status report on the packaging guide at the doc team meeting tomorrow, ok? [08:55] mdke: work is kicking my butt :( however, I got a little help from raphink yesterday and today. [08:55] LaserJock, you don't have to ask my permission :) that's great [08:55] LaserJock: saw lots of work in one commit [08:55] mdke: I'm updating the status attributes as I go so the status report should be fairly current === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-155-119.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:56] rock [08:56] mpt_, did you get my hilight above? === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:34] Madpilot, ping? [09:35] irvin, hi [09:35] hi! are you the maintainer of the desktop guide on doc.ubuntu.com ? [09:35] irvin, I'm one of them - mdke is the other [09:36] is the guide targeted for dapper? i found one issue on installing the flash plugin === robotgeek listens in [09:37] the guide points out installing flashplayer-mozilla but the package does not exist in dapper [09:37] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=flashplayer-mozilla&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all [09:37] irvin, the one in our SVN & at doc.ubuntu.com is for Dapper [09:37] it does however exists in breezy [09:37] flashplayer-mozilla was removed upon my request because it is 1) illegal to distribute from our repos in binary format, 2) obsoleted by flashplugin-nonfree [09:38] OK [09:38] crimsun, yup, flashplugin-nonfree would be the package for dapper [09:38] ty [09:39] :) [09:39] I'm not yet running Dapper myself - but it's just a swap of flashplugin-nonfree for the -mozilla package? [09:39] Madpilot, yes. but it's worth checking the java plugin too [09:41] mdke, as in, the people working on the Foo Guide, the people working on the Bar Guide, the people working on the Hum Guide [09:42] mpt_, ?? [09:42] for various values of Foo, Bar, and Hum [09:42] I'm not explaining myself well, am I :-/ [09:42] mpt_: nope [09:43] clear as mud [09:43] ok [09:44] irvin: i take it that it's only x86 [09:44] robotgeek, yes [09:45] robotgeek, if you update the Flash stuff for KDG, I'll just borrow for UDG - thanks [09:45] mdke, what I'm trying to say is that I'd still like to see one day, opening the help viewer, to see things like "Adding & Removing Programs", "Getting online", "Printing", "Troubleshooting", etc *on the front page* [09:45] mpt_, so have the desktop guide open rather than the current top level of Yelp? [09:46] Madpilot, I don't particularly care *how* it's implemented [09:46] Madpilot: i have konq stuff, you might have to search replace [09:47] robotgeek, I'll plunder, probably over the weekend, unless Matt gets to it first [09:47] Madpilot, maybe instead of a "Desktop Guide" there could be a "Getting Online Guide" and a "Printing Guide" and a "Troubleshooting Guide" and so on [09:47] and then just drop the word "Guide" from all of them :-) === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:50] mpt_: maybe too late in the game? [09:50] mpt_, the desktop guide could do with a large shakeup for Dapper+1 - start a spec so we can argue about it [09:51] irvin, what do you mean about the Java guide, btw? [09:51] Madpilot, hold on for a sec, i'll double check first [09:51] robotgeek, Madpilot, I wrote the spec at UDU [09:52] mpt_, URL? [09:52] Madpilot: where are we at with the desktop guide? can I play with reviewing this weekend? [09:52] Madpilot, oops... false alarm. [09:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpfulHelp === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@ppp201-15.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:53] Burgundavia, as far as I can tell, the Ubuntu DG is done, barring typos & some changes like this flash plugin thing [09:53] see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHelp/Contents [09:53] Madpilot: ok, I will peer at it on Sat or Sunday [09:54] but yeah, Dapper+n I guess [09:54] can we create a pseudo-document to use as the main page, instead of the current listing [09:54] I seem to remember some sort of technical issue with having a document as the main page [09:55] mpt_, we've got most of the content for /UbuntuHelp/Contents, just arranged differently from that spec [09:56] great [09:58] anyway i'm off guys...sorry for the noise ;) [09:58] irvin: later, thanks :) [09:59] Madpilot: it's just a oneliner :) [10:00] Madpilot: the instructions in the dvd playback section are not enough to get dvds playing === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:02] mpt_, the one big hole in our desktop guide is the networking section - there's zip about linking to other machines (with any OS) - compared to the UbuntuHelp spec [10:02] mpt_, oh right. Surely you have a copy of dapper and you can see that isn't implemented yet [10:03] Madpilot, robotgeek, the mozilla flash plugin might still be shipped with dapper. Infinity is contacting macromedia about it [10:04] mdke, OK, I'll leave that for now [10:04] mdke: konq doesn't need a plugin :) [10:04] ok [10:04] i can't verify it anyways, i'll mark as Help! [10:05] if infinity doesn't manage to get the plugin back, we can include instructions about installing from the install package [10:06] gah. Flash is such a damned irritation... :P [10:06] yep [10:07] yes, but it's not too hard to install [10:07] we have a serious issue with dvd that we are going to need to address asap [10:07] Burgundavia, in the guide? [10:07] yes [10:07] argh. what issue? [10:07] the instructions don't work, I just tried them [10:07] Burgundavia, hmm. "insert DVD, wait for Totem to start" doesn't work in Dapper? [10:07] Madpilot, the instructions include the libdvdcss stuff [10:07] i think Kubuntu will be fine as we don't use gstreamer [10:08] right [10:08] yes, they don't include the logic to link gstreamer with the dvd stuff [10:08] Burgundavia, what is the logic? [10:08] we can add it [10:08] gstreamer0.10-dvd, which doesn't exist yet [10:08] ok [10:09] we may have to recommend another player for dvds then [10:09] we'll see if it exists or not [10:09] so people would be using totem-xine with libdvdcss? [10:09] not been ported because Fluendo cannot pay someone to do it, for fear of opening themselves up [10:09] let me play. I may have a solution yet [10:09] robotgeek, I would favour just installing xine [10:09] no need to play around with mucking up totem-gstreamer [10:10] anyway, need sleep. I'll catch up on patent stupidity & media player entertainment tomorrow... [10:10] heh, night [10:10] let me see if gxine works [10:10] it plays fine in breezy, i watched a season of "X" in it [10:10] i forgot what X is, Ray Romano [10:10] robotgeek: gstreamer has changed major versions since breezyt [10:10] [09:10:31] < mdke> is there any sign of a gstreamer0.10-dvd from upstream? [10:10] [09:10:38] < seb128_> no [10:11] he's so blunt, gotta love im [10:11] Everybody Loves Raymond. [10:11] Burgundavia, does totem work if you install -ugly? [10:12] mdke: nope [10:12] seb says it does [10:12] hmm, let me confirm [10:12] I have all of ugly installed. I will confirm with a fresh flight 6 tomorrow [10:12] i'll check too [10:14] so much work, so little time [10:15] mdke: what do you think of swapping out kino for pitivi for video editing? [10:16] Burgundavia, I have no experience with either of em. which is better? [10:16] pitivi is newer [10:16] nicer UI, but I have no idea which is more stable [10:17] maybe we should include both, so people can compare [10:17] create a wiki page and point them there [10:18] i prefer including things in the guide, if possible [10:18] ick [10:19] maybe we should leave kino in for this release [10:19] pitivi devs say it is alpha quality [10:19] ok. maybe a oneliner at the end saying, these other applications exist for video editing: X, Y [10:20] ? === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:23] ya [10:23] are there any other applications that are good we could mention? [10:23] ok, I truly regret ignoring the desktop guide until now [10:23] no problem, you have a week :) [10:24] right [10:24] hmm, sound sucks in both the guides [10:26] sound sucks in linux in general, tbh [10:38] Burgundavia, so will you do the pitivi addition, or shall I? [10:38] alrite, me bed. later [10:39] okay, let me add to agenda :) [10:42] alrite, cya all at the meeting tommorow :) [10:43] mdke: you can. I don't have write access from this box [10:43] ok [10:44] Burgundavia, I've written this: [10:44] You can also try the PiTiVipitiviUniverse repository (see ). PiTiVi is a video editor for the GNOME desktop. It is still in fairly early development, but worth a try. [10:44] tell me if that's ok [10:44] sounds good [10:46] ok [10:49] tell me if you see anything else === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:26] i noticed that the wiki team email is the doc team email - does that mean i ask questions about the wiki here? === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:25] Kamping_Kaiser, yes [02:27] ok. I was a bit confused about making subpages on the wiki - if you want a page to branch off from another page do you prefix it with / ? and the other question was 'which software runs the ubuntu wiki'? === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-167.nr.ip.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:05] Kamping_Kaiser, moinmoin is the answer to q2 [03:05] Kamping_Kaiser, as for a subpage, are you talking about creating one, or linking to one? [03:06] mdke: making one. i want to add a sub page to my wiki home to put work in progress stuff [03:07] ok, just enter the name of the page you want [03:08] so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KampingKaiser/NewPageName, for example [03:08] oh, that easy? ok. thanks [03:10] anyone else having problems staying logged in onto the wiki? [04:00] jjesse: I stay logged into the wiki even between reboots. never have had a problem. [04:05] are you running kubuntu or ubuntu? [04:06] my god - i just spent 4 hours trying to work out why a doc didnt validate - a space in front of the xml declaration [04:06] now it's finding other errs. GRR === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:17] jjesse: kubuntu [04:17] trappist: i rebooted and it solved my problem ? [04:17] wierd [04:17] I get creeped out when rebooting linux solves a problem like that [04:18] if I write a macro for the wiki, who should I send it to? [04:19] I was thinking I'd like to write a series of moinmoin macros for making links to launchpad objects like bugs, projects, people etc. [04:21] henrik@ [04:21] awesome idea btw [04:21] that's @ubuntu.com? [04:21] yes [04:22] cool, thanks [04:22] I think that'll be a post-freeze project of mine then === akulah [i=akulah@86.34.246.232] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:48] I've been playing with something [05:48] yeah? [05:48] I've made an index page for the documentation in xml [05:49] anything good [05:49] and some build scripts to build the whole website [05:49] sounds like fun [05:49] it looks like this: http://mdke.org/images/help-index.png [05:50] it should mean that that index page is translatable too, and hopefully that making the website with all the translations can be done really simply [05:50] that would be cool [05:51] i might upload it [05:54] i haven't completely figured out translation though === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke uploads [06:08] let me know what you think: http://help.ubuntu.com/Dapper/ [06:29] oh yeah, forgot the install guide === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:30] I expected it to be bigger for some reason [06:31] the index? [06:33] yeah [06:34] what's missing? [06:35] I don't guess anything... I thought the top level list would be longer than that. [06:37] trappist, any idea how to make a script which goes to the archive, fishes out the latest debs of the installation-guide, extracts them, and copies the files to the build directory? [06:37] you're a knowledgeable chap [06:38] actually, I wonder if what we want to do is get the source, apply a few patches and build the documents with the same style as the other docs [06:38] hmm [06:41] we should stop building our pages. just use the xml with a style sheet :P [06:41] cool, robotgeek volunteered to write the xsl :) [06:41] trappist: lol. [06:41] the xsl is there, but robotgeek has to teach firefox to read xml [06:42] we only need to have a css, and tell the xml file to use the style sheet. [06:42] it won't work in in ie6, i think [06:43] i'm not the css/xml/xhtml guru :) === mdke blinks [06:43] firefox can convert docbook to html on the fly? [06:43] yup. let me pull up a link [06:44] http://www.mcs.csuhayward.edu/~grewe/CS6320/Mat/XML/SampleWCSS.html [06:44] http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/x-dw-x-xmlcss-i.html [06:45] that isn't docbook though, right? [06:46] hrmph, looks clever [06:47] i tried to change it, but the xslt stuff was too difficult for me === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Cturtle [n=Cturtle@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Belutz [n=Belutz@202.155.150.74] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:14] dudes: i may not make it to the meeting, have a good one [09:16] mdk:! [09:16] mdke: bummer dude [09:16] LaserJock, is there something I can help with now? [09:16] by the way, is that doc-base thing fixed? [09:17] mdke: no, I just like it when you are at the meeting ;-) [09:17] the doc-base thing is fixed for Ubuntu [09:18] but not Kubuntu [09:18] ok, fair enough [09:18] got to go now, catch you later maybe [09:19] If I have time I'll certainly try to get the Kubuntu docs done [09:19] they should be easier than the Ubuntu docs [09:36] mdke, the website probably shouldn't be at /dapper/ [09:39] LaserJock: i won't be at the meeting either tonight :( [09:39] ughh [09:39] sorry 2100 UTC is hard to do for me [09:40] hmm wait i did the math wrong i think [09:40] i did i'll be there [09:40] ok, sweet [09:40] 2100 UTC Fridays does kinda suck [09:41] that's quittin' time here [09:41] at -0600 [09:42] trappist: 3:00 ? [09:42] did I do the math wrong too? I thought that meant 5pm [09:42] dang it I did [09:42] so never mind [09:42] 1500 != 5pm === LaserJock hands a calculator to jjesse and trappist [09:43] no kidding [09:43] I cheat and use iCal ;-) [09:43] after 6 years in the marine corps you'd think I could handle a 24 hour clock [09:44] lol [09:45] well, I'm going to have to leave at 22:00 because I've got a meeting to write a constitution for a Chemistry Graduate Student Association [09:52] those things have constitutions? [09:54] if we want official recognition (and money) from the university we do [09:54] cool [09:54] 22:00 UTC is quitting time for me :) [09:54] you guys hiring? ;) [09:54] jjesse: what is that local? [09:54] 5pm [09:55] i'm in EST, -5 GMT [09:55] ah, I'm -8, Pacific [09:59] Burgwork, how come? [10:02] mdke, the official name of the release is 6.06, not dapper [10:02] this has been a major source of confusion before and we should not be perpetuating it [10:03] sabdfl asked for it, but I don't know if he is attached to "Dapper" rather than 6.06 [10:03] I'll ask if it's ok to change it [10:04] so will there be a /6.06 and then a /whateverthenextrelease date is? [10:04] yes, and we'll keep 5.10 too, I would think [10:04] cool, don't forget to add the release notes :) [10:04] is . a valid part of url? [10:05] jjesse, i won't :) [10:05] Burgwork, i don't know [10:05] don't see why not [10:05] ok [10:07] yes, seems to work [10:08] we'll have to change the link in gnome-panel [10:10] are there references in kubuntu to it? [10:12] not in gnome-panel, no [10:13] but are there other references to help.ubuntu.com in anything for kuubntu? [10:14] I have no idea [10:14] on the packaging guide and the server guide is there a way to take out the Ubuntu and refer it somehow to theversion that you are using? [10:15] so it looks like the "Kubuntu Server Guide" and "Kubuntu Packaging Guide" [10:15] khelpcenter in the contents section has it as kubuntu server guide, but when you open it up it says "ubuntu server guide" [10:16] I can't think of a way to do that, I'm afraid [10:17] bummer [10:17] they should probably be called the same thing in the khelpcentre stuff... not sure [10:17] we could change them to "Ubuntu Server/Packaging Guide" [10:17] up to you [10:18] yeah, is there a naming scheme that is neutral? [10:18] could we just call them Server Guide and Packaging Guide [10:18] when I say Ubuntu I mean the big umbrella (Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu) [10:19] jjesse: we could but there are Ubuntu ( i.e. not Debian) specific things in the Packaging Guide [10:19] LaserJock, yeah. jjesse, I think they need some identification with the operating system [10:19] mdke: makes sense that way how do i change khelpcenter? [10:20] edit the files in trunk/kubuntu/khelpdesktop [10:22] still waiting on password ;) [10:22] ok, I'll do it. [10:23] I haven't emailed yet: I am waiting on a response from luzi and i was going to email all at once [10:23] ah ok [10:24] if he doesn't respond I'll just send off for you and trappist [10:27] sorry, I wasn't following the conversation - send off for what? [10:29] commit access [10:30] oh cool [10:36] Burgwork, what's the apress book like? [10:37] is that the official ubuntu book? [10:37] or a different one? [10:37] jjesse, i thought your one was the "official" one ;) [10:38] http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10086 [10:38] yeah it is, but burgwork is working on it as well [10:38] i loose track of the different ubuntu books coming out [10:39] heh [10:39] do a search on amazon [10:39] mdke, not bad. A little techy. My editor bought it for me so we can compare [10:39] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0132435942/sr=8-2/qid=1143661668/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-0903874-8555820?%5Fencoding=UTF8 is the official book [10:40] Burgwork, someone from apress mailed me and asked me to give it a review on my blog hahaha [10:41] wasn't it just reviewed on slashdot as well? [10:41] yeah, it got 9/10 apparently [10:41] the apress book was technically reviewed by John Hornbeck [10:41] Burgwork: hey were you still looking for that printer guy? [10:41] right, it's been published already [10:42] no, I mean it was reviewed by John before it went to press (checked might be a better term) [10:42] trappist, not certin [10:43] given I am going to be in Lawton, OK at the end of April, I will see if I can meet up with John [10:45] just socially, or for doc related reasons? [10:45] socially [10:50] meeting in 10 minutes? [10:52] hey all, DapperFlight6 is about all done in case anyone has time to give it a quick review [10:54] mgalvin, flight 6 just got released, so you had better copy it to the website too [10:54] s/too/soon [10:54] was the email sent already? i didn't see it yet [10:54] mgalvin: excellent work as usuall [10:54] didn't see the email either [10:54] it's not mirrored yet, see -devel [10:54] jjesse: thanks :) [10:54] today's daily kubuntu is flight6 for kubuntu users :) [10:55] mail is going to be sent in the morning [10:55] now if i can just clear somethings out do to the kubuntu flights :) === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:32] dang it why can i never remember which packages i need to build the docteam stuff? [11:32] jjesse: i saw the new docs, yay [11:33] robotgeek: which new docs? [11:33] jjesse, read kubuntu/debian/control for the packages you need [11:33] oh in flight6 [11:33] docbook-xsl [11:33] jjesse: the kubuntu-docs package :) [11:41] mdke, the idea of migrating everything to docudo really appeals to me, provided it can do docbook, etc. [11:42] merging wiki and offline [11:42] i haven't taken a look yet [11:42] http://www.turbogears.org/svn/docudo/trunk/doc/todo.txt [11:45] ok, I've added releasenotes and moved the url: http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ [11:48] I've got it checked out and prereqs installed but it's kicking my butt [11:49] mm? [11:50] trappist, for docudo? [11:50] yeah [11:51] a fresh install of turbogears seems to be missing functions docudo expects to find [11:51] might it need cvs versions of turbogears? [11:52] that would suck. nothing in the docs about that. [11:53] ask the TG guys [12:00] night [12:01] trappist, you working on dapper or breezy? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:02] hmm, i moved my job search data base to moin :)