[12:22] <LaserJock> Burgwork: really?
[12:23] <Burgwork> me publisher bought it for me. Industrial espionage
[12:23] <LaserJock> nice
[12:24] <Burgwork> too bad they Ubuntu Linux and not Ubuntu, which is our actual name
[12:24] <LaserJock> my grandpa used to take my grandma around the country on industrial espionage trips ;-)
[12:30] <k31th> yo
[12:31] <k31th> right
[12:31] <k31th> shall i write some thing on wlan
[01:09] -banbot:#ubuntu-doc- lol g, join #bant0wn and get hugs visit http://binrev.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #ubuntu-doc SUCKS
[02:49] <k31th> hum does kate work with docbook?
[02:52] <LaserJock> I don't see why it wouldn't
[02:53] <Burgwork> k31th, yes
[05:14] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: wth was the banbot?
[05:14] <Burgundavia> robotgeek: no idea, it was some random troll hitting a bunch of chans
[05:15] <robotgeek> tor abuser
[05:17] <Burgundavia> sadly yes
[06:21] <robotgeek> mdke_: does the omf file in kubuntu direcotyr serve any purpose, it's very outta shape :)
[07:31] <robotgeek> howdy Madpilot 
[07:31] <Madpilot> hi robotgeek 
[07:31] <robotgeek> brb, need to reload screen
[07:43] <robotgeek> howdy LaserJock 
[07:45] <Madpilot> EasyUbuntu made LWN.net
[07:45] <robotgeek> damn
[07:45] <LaserJock> hi robotgeek 
[07:45] <Burgundavia> very good
[07:46] <Madpilot> actually linux.com, but lwn picked it up
[07:46] <Madpilot> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/03/23/1653209
[07:47] <robotgeek> oh well, the improvements are all in svn. 
[07:56] <robotgeek> Madpilot: thanks for the info. i gotta get back to proofreading now
[08:33] <mdke_> robotgeek, no purpose
[08:33] <robotgeek> mdke_: okay, just doing some cleanup of desktop guide before meeting tommorow
[08:34] <mdke_> mpt, what do you mean by "the way its authors are grouped"?
[08:51] <mdke_> robotgeek, the equivalent of the omf files for kubuntu are in khelpdesktop
[08:52] <robotgeek> cool, as long as i don't have to mess wit hit :)
[08:53] <mdke_> no
[08:54] <LaserJock> mdke: I'll give a status report on the packaging guide at the doc team meeting tomorrow, ok?
[08:55] <LaserJock> mdke: work is kicking my butt :(  however, I got a little help from raphink yesterday and today.
[08:55] <mdke> LaserJock, you don't have to ask my permission :) that's great
[08:55] <robotgeek> LaserJock: saw lots of work in one commit
[08:55] <LaserJock> mdke: I'm updating the status attributes as I go so the status report should be fairly current
[08:56] <mdke> rock
[08:56] <mdke> mpt_, did you get my hilight above?
[09:34] <irvin> Madpilot, ping?
[09:35] <Madpilot> irvin, hi
[09:35] <irvin> hi! are you the maintainer of the desktop guide on doc.ubuntu.com ?
[09:35] <Madpilot> irvin, I'm one of them - mdke is the other
[09:36] <irvin> is the guide targeted for dapper? i found one issue on installing the flash plugin
[09:37] <irvin> the guide points out installing flashplayer-mozilla but the package does not exist in dapper
[09:37] <irvin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=flashplayer-mozilla&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[09:37] <Madpilot> irvin, the one in our SVN & at doc.ubuntu.com is for Dapper
[09:37] <irvin> it does however exists in breezy
[09:37] <crimsun> flashplayer-mozilla was removed upon my request because it is 1) illegal to distribute from our repos in binary format, 2) obsoleted by flashplugin-nonfree
[09:38] <Madpilot> OK
[09:38] <irvin> crimsun, yup, flashplugin-nonfree would be the package for dapper
[09:38] <robotgeek> ty
[09:39] <irvin> :)
[09:39] <Madpilot> I'm not yet running Dapper myself - but it's just a swap of flashplugin-nonfree for the -mozilla package?
[09:39] <irvin> Madpilot, yes. but it's worth checking the java plugin too 
[09:41] <mpt_> mdke, as in, the people working on the Foo Guide, the people working on the Bar Guide, the people working on the Hum Guide
[09:42] <Madpilot> mpt_, ??
[09:42] <mpt_> for various values of Foo, Bar, and Hum
[09:42] <mpt_> I'm not explaining myself well, am I :-/
[09:42] <robotgeek> mpt_: nope
[09:43] <mpt_> clear as mud
[09:43] <mpt_> ok
[09:44] <robotgeek> irvin: i take it that it's only x86
[09:44] <irvin> robotgeek, yes
[09:45] <Madpilot> robotgeek, if you update the Flash stuff for KDG, I'll just borrow for UDG - thanks
[09:45] <mpt_> mdke, what I'm trying to say is that I'd still like to see one day, opening the help viewer, to see things like "Adding & Removing Programs", "Getting online", "Printing", "Troubleshooting", etc *on the front page*
[09:45] <Madpilot> mpt_, so have the desktop guide open rather than the current top level of Yelp?
[09:46] <mpt_> Madpilot, I don't particularly care *how* it's implemented
[09:46] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i have konq stuff, you might have to search replace
[09:47] <Madpilot> robotgeek, I'll plunder, probably over the weekend, unless Matt gets to it first
[09:47] <mpt_> Madpilot, maybe instead of a "Desktop Guide" there could be a "Getting Online Guide" and a "Printing Guide" and a "Troubleshooting Guide" and so on
[09:47] <mpt_> and then just drop the word "Guide" from all of them :-)
[09:50] <robotgeek> mpt_: maybe too late in the game?
[09:50] <Madpilot> mpt_, the desktop guide could do with a large shakeup for Dapper+1 - start a spec so we can argue about it
[09:51] <Madpilot> irvin, what do you mean about the Java guide, btw?
[09:51] <irvin> Madpilot, hold on for a sec, i'll double check first
[09:51] <mpt_> robotgeek, Madpilot, I wrote the spec at UDU
[09:52] <Madpilot> mpt_, URL?
[09:52] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: where are we at with the desktop guide? can I play with reviewing this weekend?
[09:52] <irvin> Madpilot, oops... false alarm.
[09:53] <mpt_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpfulHelp
[09:53] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, as far as I can tell, the Ubuntu DG is done, barring typos & some changes like this flash plugin thing
[09:53] <mpt_> see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHelp/Contents
[09:53] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: ok, I will peer at it on Sat or Sunday
[09:54] <mpt_> but yeah, Dapper+n I guess
[09:54] <Burgundavia> can we create a pseudo-document to use as the main page, instead of the current listing
[09:54] <Burgundavia> I seem to remember some sort of technical issue with having a document as the main page
[09:55] <Madpilot> mpt_, we've got most of the content for /UbuntuHelp/Contents, just arranged differently from that spec
[09:56] <mpt_> great
[09:58] <irvin> anyway i'm off guys...sorry for the noise ;)
[09:58] <robotgeek> irvin: later, thanks :)
[09:59] <robotgeek> Madpilot: it's just a oneliner :)
[10:00] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: the instructions in the dvd playback section are not enough to get dvds playing
[10:02] <Madpilot> mpt_, the one big hole in our desktop guide is the networking section - there's zip about linking to other machines (with any OS) - compared to the UbuntuHelp spec
[10:02] <mdke> mpt_, oh right. Surely you have a copy of dapper and you can see that isn't implemented yet
[10:03] <mdke> Madpilot, robotgeek, the mozilla flash plugin might still be shipped with dapper. Infinity is contacting macromedia about it
[10:04] <Madpilot> mdke, OK, I'll leave that for now
[10:04] <robotgeek> mdke: konq doesn't need a plugin :)
[10:04] <mdke> ok
[10:04] <robotgeek> i can't verify it anyways, i'll mark as Help!
[10:05] <mdke> if infinity doesn't manage to get the plugin back, we can include instructions about installing from the install package
[10:06] <Madpilot> gah. Flash is such a damned irritation... :P
[10:06] <Burgundavia> yep
[10:07] <mdke> yes, but it's not too hard to install
[10:07] <Burgundavia> we have a serious issue with dvd that we are going to need to address asap
[10:07] <mdke> Burgundavia, in the guide?
[10:07] <Burgundavia> yes
[10:07] <mdke> argh. what issue?
[10:07] <Burgundavia> the instructions don't work, I just tried them
[10:07] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, hmm. "insert DVD, wait for Totem to start" doesn't work in Dapper?
[10:07] <mdke> Madpilot, the instructions include the libdvdcss stuff
[10:07] <robotgeek> i think Kubuntu will be fine as we don't use gstreamer
[10:08] <Madpilot> right
[10:08] <Burgundavia> yes, they don't include the logic to link gstreamer with the dvd stuff
[10:08] <mdke> Burgundavia, what is the logic?
[10:08] <mdke> we can add it
[10:08] <Burgundavia> gstreamer0.10-dvd, which doesn't exist yet
[10:08] <mdke> ok
[10:09] <mdke> we may have to recommend another player for dvds then
[10:09] <mdke> we'll see if it exists or not
[10:09] <robotgeek> so people would be using totem-xine with libdvdcss?
[10:09] <Burgundavia> not been ported because Fluendo cannot pay someone to do it, for fear of opening themselves up
[10:09] <Burgundavia> let me play. I may have a solution yet
[10:09] <mdke> robotgeek, I would favour just installing xine
[10:09] <mdke> no need to play around with mucking up totem-gstreamer
[10:10] <Madpilot> anyway, need sleep. I'll catch up on patent stupidity & media player entertainment tomorrow...
[10:10] <mdke> heh, night
[10:10] <Burgundavia> let me see if gxine works
[10:10] <robotgeek> it plays fine in breezy, i watched a season of "X" in it 
[10:10] <robotgeek> i forgot what X is, Ray Romano
[10:10] <Burgundavia> robotgeek: gstreamer has changed major versions since breezyt
[10:10] <mdke>  [09:10:31]  < mdke> is there any sign of a gstreamer0.10-dvd from upstream?
[10:10] <mdke>  [09:10:38]  < seb128_> no
[10:11] <mdke> he's so blunt, gotta love im
[10:11] <robotgeek> Everybody Loves Raymond. <sigh>
[10:11] <mdke> Burgundavia, does totem work if you install -ugly?
[10:12] <Burgundavia> mdke: nope
[10:12] <mdke> seb says it does
[10:12] <Burgundavia> hmm, let me confirm
[10:12] <Burgundavia> I have all of ugly installed. I will confirm with a fresh flight 6 tomorrow
[10:12] <mdke> i'll check too
[10:14] <Burgundavia> so much work, so little time
[10:15] <Burgundavia> mdke: what do you think of swapping out kino for pitivi for video editing?
[10:16] <mdke> Burgundavia, I have no experience with either of em. which is better?
[10:16] <Burgundavia> pitivi is newer
[10:16] <Burgundavia> nicer UI, but I have no idea which is more stable
[10:17] <mdke> maybe we should include both, so people can compare
[10:17] <robotgeek> create a wiki page and point them there
[10:18] <mdke> i prefer including things in the guide, if possible
[10:18] <Burgundavia> ick
[10:19] <Burgundavia> maybe we should leave kino in for this release
[10:19] <Burgundavia> pitivi devs say it is alpha quality
[10:19] <mdke> ok. maybe a oneliner at the end saying, these other applications exist for video editing: X, Y
[10:20] <mdke> ?
[10:23] <Burgundavia> ya
[10:23] <mdke> are there any other applications that are good we could mention?
[10:23] <Burgundavia> ok, I truly regret ignoring the desktop guide until now
[10:23] <mdke> no problem, you have a week :)
[10:24] <Burgundavia> right
[10:24] <robotgeek> hmm, sound sucks in both the guides
[10:26] <Burgundavia> sound sucks in linux in general, tbh
[10:38] <mdke> Burgundavia, so will you do the pitivi addition, or shall I?
[10:38] <robotgeek> alrite, me bed. later
[10:39] <robotgeek> okay, let me add to agenda :)
[10:42] <robotgeek> alrite, cya all at the meeting tommorow :)
[10:43] <Burgundavia> mdke: you can. I don't have write access from this box
[10:43] <mdke> ok
[10:44] <mdke> Burgundavia, I've written this:
You can also try the <application>PiTiVi</application video editor by installing the <application>pitivi</application package from the <emphasis>Universe</emphasis> repository (see <xref linkend="add-applications"/>). <application>PiTiVi</application> is a video editor for the GNOME desktop. It is still in fairly early development, but worth a try.</para>
[10:44] <mdke> tell me if that's ok
[10:44] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[10:46] <mdke> ok
[10:49] <mdke> tell me if you see anything else
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> i noticed that the wiki team email is the doc team email - does that mean i ask questions about the wiki here?
[02:25] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, yes
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. I was a bit confused about making subpages on the wiki - if you want a page to branch off from another page do you prefix it with / ? and the other question was 'which software runs the ubuntu wiki'?
[03:05] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, moinmoin is the answer to q2
[03:05] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, as for a subpage, are you talking about creating one, or linking to one?
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> mdke: making one. i want to add a sub page to my wiki home to put work in progress stuff 
[03:07] <mdke> ok, just enter the name of the page you want
[03:08] <mdke> so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KampingKaiser/NewPageName, for example
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, that easy? ok. thanks
[03:10] <jjesse> anyone else having problems staying logged in onto the wiki?
[04:00] <trappist> jjesse: I stay logged into the wiki even between reboots.  never have had a problem.
[04:05] <jjesse> are you running kubuntu or ubuntu?
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> my god - i just spent 4 hours trying to work out why a doc didnt validate - a space in front of the xml declaration
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> now it's finding other errs. GRR
[04:17] <trappist> jjesse: kubuntu
[04:17] <jjesse> trappist: i rebooted and it solved my problem ?
[04:17] <jjesse> wierd
[04:17] <trappist> I get creeped out when rebooting linux solves a problem like that
[04:18] <trappist> if I write a macro for the wiki, who should I send it to?
[04:19] <trappist> I was thinking I'd like to write a series of moinmoin macros for making links to launchpad objects like bugs, projects, people etc.
[04:21] <mdke> henrik@
[04:21] <mdke> awesome idea btw
[04:21] <trappist> that's @ubuntu.com?
[04:21] <mdke> yes
[04:22] <trappist> cool, thanks
[04:22] <trappist> I think that'll be a post-freeze project of mine then
[05:48] <mdke> I've been playing with something
[05:48] <jjesse> yeah?
[05:48] <mdke> I've made an index page for the documentation in xml
[05:49] <jjesse> anything good
[05:49] <mdke> and some build scripts to build the whole website
[05:49] <jjesse> sounds like fun
[05:49] <mdke> it looks like this: http://mdke.org/images/help-index.png
[05:50] <mdke> it should mean that that index page is translatable too, and hopefully that making the website with all the translations can be done really simply
[05:50] <jjesse> that would be cool
[05:51] <mdke> i might upload it
[05:54] <mdke> i haven't completely figured out translation though
[06:08] <mdke> let me know what you think: http://help.ubuntu.com/Dapper/
[06:29] <mdke> oh yeah, forgot the install guide
[06:30] <trappist> I expected it to be bigger for some reason
[06:31] <mdke> the index?
[06:33] <trappist> yeah
[06:34] <mdke> what's missing?
[06:35] <trappist> I don't guess anything... I thought the top level list would be longer than that.
[06:37] <mdke> trappist, any idea how to make a script which goes to the archive, fishes out the latest debs of the installation-guide, extracts them, and copies the files to the build directory?
[06:37] <mdke> you're a knowledgeable chap
[06:38] <mdke> actually, I wonder if what we want to do is get the source, apply a few patches and build the documents with the same style as the other docs
[06:38] <mdke> hmm
[06:41] <robotgeek> we should stop building our pages. just use the xml with a style sheet :P
[06:41] <trappist> cool, robotgeek volunteered to write the xsl :)
[06:41] <robotgeek> trappist: lol. 
[06:41] <mdke> the xsl is there, but robotgeek has to teach firefox to read xml
[06:42] <robotgeek> we only need to have a css, and tell the xml file to use the style sheet. 
[06:42] <robotgeek> it won't work in in ie6, i think
[06:43] <robotgeek> i'm not the css/xml/xhtml guru :)
[06:43] <mdke> firefox can convert docbook to html on the fly?
[06:43] <robotgeek> yup. let me pull up a link
[06:44] <robotgeek> http://www.mcs.csuhayward.edu/~grewe/CS6320/Mat/XML/SampleWCSS.html
[06:44] <robotgeek> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/x-dw-x-xmlcss-i.html
[06:45] <mdke> that isn't docbook though, right?
[06:46] <mdke> hrmph, looks clever
[06:47] <robotgeek> i tried to change it, but the xslt stuff was too difficult for me
[09:14] <mdke> dudes: i may not make it to the meeting, have a good one
[09:16] <LaserJock> mdk:!
[09:16] <LaserJock> mdke: bummer dude
[09:16] <mdke> LaserJock, is there something I can help with now?
[09:16] <mdke> by the way, is that doc-base thing fixed?
[09:17] <LaserJock> mdke: no, I just like it when you are at the meeting ;-)
[09:17] <LaserJock> the doc-base thing is fixed for Ubuntu
[09:18] <LaserJock> but not Kubuntu
[09:18] <mdke> ok, fair enough
[09:18] <mdke> got to go now, catch you later maybe
[09:19] <LaserJock> If I have time I'll certainly try to get the Kubuntu docs done
[09:19] <LaserJock> they should be easier than the Ubuntu docs
[09:36] <Burgwork> mdke, the website probably shouldn't be at /dapper/
[09:39] <jjesse> LaserJock: i won't be at the meeting either tonight :(
[09:39] <LaserJock> ughh
[09:39] <jjesse> sorry 2100 UTC is hard to do for me
[09:40] <jjesse> hmm wait i did the math wrong i think 
[09:40] <jjesse> i did i'll be there
[09:40] <LaserJock> ok, sweet
[09:40] <trappist> 2100 UTC Fridays does kinda suck
[09:41] <trappist> that's quittin' time here
[09:41] <trappist> at -0600
[09:42] <LaserJock> trappist: 3:00 ?
[09:42] <trappist> did I do the math wrong too?  I thought that meant 5pm
[09:42] <trappist> dang it I did
[09:42] <trappist> so never mind
[09:42] <trappist> 1500 != 5pm
[09:43] <trappist> no kidding
[09:43] <LaserJock> I cheat and use iCal ;-)
[09:43] <trappist> after 6 years in the marine corps you'd think I could handle a 24 hour clock
[09:44] <LaserJock> lol
[09:45] <LaserJock> well, I'm going to have to leave at 22:00 because I've got a meeting to write a constitution for a Chemistry Graduate Student Association 
[09:52] <trappist> those things have constitutions?
[09:54] <LaserJock> if we want official recognition (and money) from the university we do
[09:54] <trappist> cool
[09:54] <jjesse> 22:00 UTC is quitting time for me :)
[09:54] <trappist> you guys hiring? ;)
[09:54] <LaserJock> jjesse: what is that local?
[09:54] <jjesse> 5pm
[09:55] <jjesse> i'm in EST, -5 GMT
[09:55] <LaserJock> ah, I'm -8, Pacific
[09:59] <mdke> Burgwork, how come?
[10:02] <Burgwork> mdke, the official name of the release is 6.06, not dapper
[10:02] <Burgwork> this has been a major source of confusion before and we should not be perpetuating it
[10:03] <mdke> sabdfl asked for it, but I don't know if he is attached to "Dapper" rather than 6.06
[10:03] <mdke> I'll ask if it's ok to change it
[10:04] <jjesse> so will there be a /6.06 and then a /whateverthenextrelease date is?
[10:04] <mdke> yes, and we'll keep 5.10 too, I would think
[10:04] <jjesse> cool, don't forget to add the release notes :)
[10:04] <Burgwork> is . a valid part of url?
[10:05] <mdke> jjesse, i won't :)
[10:05] <mdke> Burgwork, i don't know
[10:05] <mdke> don't see why not
[10:05] <Burgwork> ok
[10:07] <mdke> yes, seems to work
[10:08] <mdke> we'll have to change the link in gnome-panel
[10:10] <jjesse> are there references in kubuntu to it?
[10:12] <mdke> not in gnome-panel, no
[10:13] <jjesse> but are there other references to help.ubuntu.com in anything for kuubntu?
[10:14] <mdke> I have no idea
[10:14] <jjesse> on the packaging guide and the server guide is there a way to take out the Ubuntu and refer it somehow to theversion that you are using?
[10:15] <jjesse> so it looks like the "Kubuntu Server Guide" and "Kubuntu Packaging Guide" 
[10:15] <jjesse> khelpcenter in the contents section has it as kubuntu server guide, but when you open it up it says "ubuntu server guide"
[10:16] <mdke> I can't think of a way to do that, I'm afraid
[10:17] <jjesse> bummer
[10:17] <mdke> they should probably be called the same thing in the khelpcentre stuff... not sure
[10:17] <mdke> we could change them to "Ubuntu Server/Packaging Guide"
[10:17] <mdke> up to you
[10:18] <LaserJock> yeah, is there a naming scheme that is neutral?
[10:18] <jjesse> could we just call them Server Guide and Packaging Guide
[10:18] <LaserJock> when I say Ubuntu I mean the big umbrella (Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu)
[10:19] <LaserJock> jjesse: we could but there are Ubuntu ( i.e. not Debian) specific things in the Packaging Guide
[10:19] <mdke> LaserJock, yeah. jjesse, I think they need some identification with the operating system
[10:19] <jjesse> mdke:  makes sense that way how do i change khelpcenter?
[10:20] <mdke> edit the files in trunk/kubuntu/khelpdesktop
[10:22] <jjesse> still waiting on password ;)
[10:22] <mdke> ok, I'll do it.
[10:23] <mdke> I haven't emailed yet: I am waiting on a response from luzi and i was going to email all at once
[10:23] <jjesse> ah ok
[10:24] <mdke> if he doesn't respond I'll just send off for you and trappist 
[10:27] <trappist> sorry, I wasn't following the conversation - send off for what?
[10:29] <mdke> commit access
[10:30] <trappist> oh cool
[10:36] <mdke> Burgwork, what's the apress book like?
[10:37] <jjesse> is that the official ubuntu book?
[10:37] <jjesse> or a different one?
[10:37] <mdke> jjesse, i thought your one was the "official" one ;)
[10:38] <mdke> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10086
[10:38] <jjesse> yeah it is, but burgwork is working on it as well
[10:38] <jjesse> i loose track of the different ubuntu books coming out
[10:39] <mdke> heh
[10:39] <jjesse> do a search on amazon 
[10:39] <Burgwork> mdke, not bad. A little techy. My editor bought it for me so we can compare
[10:39] <jjesse> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0132435942/sr=8-2/qid=1143661668/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-0903874-8555820?%5Fencoding=UTF8 is the official book
[10:40] <mdke> Burgwork, someone from apress mailed me and asked me to give it a review on my blog hahaha
[10:41] <jjesse> wasn't it just reviewed on slashdot as well?
[10:41] <mdke> yeah, it got 9/10 apparently
[10:41] <Burgwork> the apress book was technically reviewed by John Hornbeck
[10:41] <trappist> Burgwork: hey were you still looking for that printer guy?
[10:41] <mdke> right, it's been published already
[10:42] <Burgwork> no, I mean it was reviewed by John before it went to press (checked might be a better term)
[10:42] <Burgwork> trappist, not certin
[10:43] <Burgwork> given I am going to be in Lawton, OK at the end of April, I will see if I can meet up with John
[10:45] <mdke> just socially, or for doc related reasons?
[10:45] <Burgwork> socially
[10:50] <robotgeek> meeting in 10 minutes?
[10:52] <mgalvin> hey all, DapperFlight6 is about all done in case anyone has time to give it a quick review
[10:54] <Burgwork> mgalvin, flight 6 just got released, so you had better copy it to the website too
[10:54] <Burgwork> s/too/soon
[10:54] <mgalvin> was the email sent already? i didn't see it yet
[10:54] <jjesse> mgalvin: excellent work as usuall
[10:54] <jjesse> didn't see the email either
[10:54] <mdke> it's not mirrored yet, see -devel
[10:54] <mgalvin> jjesse: thanks :)
[10:54] <jjesse> today's daily kubuntu is flight6 for kubuntu users :)
[10:55] <Burgwork> mail is going to be sent in the morning
[10:55] <jjesse> now if i can just clear somethings out do to the kubuntu flights :)
[11:32] <jjesse> dang it why can i never remember which packages i need to build the docteam stuff?
[11:32] <robotgeek> jjesse: i saw the new docs, yay
[11:33] <jjesse> robotgeek: which new docs?
[11:33] <mdke> jjesse, read kubuntu/debian/control for the packages you need
[11:33] <jjesse> oh in flight6
[11:33] <LaserJock> docbook-xsl
[11:33] <robotgeek> jjesse: the kubuntu-docs package :)
[11:41] <Burgwork> mdke, the idea of migrating everything to docudo really appeals to me, provided it can do docbook, etc.
[11:42] <Burgwork> merging wiki and offline
[11:42] <mdke> i haven't taken a look yet
[11:42] <Burgwork> http://www.turbogears.org/svn/docudo/trunk/doc/todo.txt
[11:45] <mdke> ok, I've added releasenotes and moved the url: http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:48] <trappist> I've got it checked out and prereqs installed but it's kicking my butt
[11:49] <mdke> mm?
[11:50] <Burgwork> trappist, for docudo?
[11:50] <trappist> yeah
[11:51] <trappist> a fresh install of turbogears seems to be missing functions docudo expects to find
[11:51] <Burgwork> might it need cvs versions of turbogears?
[11:52] <trappist> that would suck.  nothing in the docs about that.
[11:53] <Burgwork> ask the TG guys
[12:00] <mdke> night
[12:01] <Burgwork> trappist, you working on dapper or breezy?
[12:02] <robotgeek> hmm, i moved my job search data base to moin :)