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| CDigger | Hi All | 12:41 |
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| LaserJock | hi CDigger | 12:43 |
| Se7h | hi | 12:45 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 12:56 |
| LaserJock | hi phanatic | 12:57 |
| phanatic | hey LaserJock | 12:58 |
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| truz24 | hi phanatic | 12:58 |
| phanatic | hey truz24 :) | 12:58 |
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| -banbot:#ubuntu-motu- lol g, join #bant0wn and get hugs visit http://binrev.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #ubuntu-motu SUCKS | 01:06 | |
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| Erlang | -_o | 01:07 |
| Tm_T | yeah, spambot! | 01:08 |
| Erlang | don't visit that URL. | 01:09 |
| Tm_T | ofcourse not | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | seems as if banbot hit all the ubuntu channels, how odd | 01:10 |
| Tm_T | noone of us is that stupid, right guys? | 01:10 |
| phanatic | what's behind that url? :) | 01:10 |
| Tm_T | guys? | 01:10 |
| Erlang | phanatic: you don't wanna know. | 01:10 |
| Erlang | I thought it was somewhat related to the channel it was advertising. | 01:11 |
| phanatic | ok | 01:11 |
| Tm_T | Erlang: =) | 01:11 |
| Erlang | it's not...... | 01:11 |
| Erlang | I think I might be lucky I run Linux and not Windows with IE. | 01:12 |
| Tm_T | surprise, it's spam afterall | 01:12 |
| Erlang | that'll teach me. | 01:13 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I wonder how they decide which channels to hit? | 01:14 |
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| kbrooks | feature freeze... | 01:31 |
| === LaserJock is frozen :-) | ||
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| Se7h | im gonna in the middle just to ask a small thing. Why doesn't the pbuilder detect some libs he's supposed to ? (some build-dep maybe) | 02:29 |
| LaserJock | Se7h: pbuilder only uses what you give it | 02:31 |
| Se7h | ye i know | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | Se7h: if you don't have the build deps right then it won't look for them | 02:31 |
| Se7h | OpenSSL: no, using built-in SHA1 implementation | 02:31 |
| Se7h | GTK+: no | 02:31 |
| Se7h | thats the thing | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | yep, looks like you need to add some deps | 02:32 |
| Se7h | i figured, but what deps? | 02:32 |
| Erlang | check config.log | 02:32 |
| Erlang | to see that it's trying to find, and how. | 02:32 |
| Se7h | wheres that? | 02:33 |
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| Erlang | it's in the project root of autotooled upstream packages. | 02:33 |
| LaserJock | I'm guessing something like libgtk2.0-dev and libssl-dev | 02:34 |
| LaserJock | Se7h: usually you can also check the INSTALL file or the apps homepage | 02:34 |
| Erlang | well of course those are the steps that goes before-checking-config.log | 02:36 |
| Se7h | oh, so the build-deps are always libraries needed for building the program in the shell ? | 02:36 |
| LaserJock | Se7h: they are all the dependencies that are needed to build the app + anything that you need for the packaging (debhelper for example) | 02:38 |
| Erlang | build-deps are anything you'd need to build the program on a freshly installed base system. | 02:38 |
| Se7h | oh ok | 02:43 |
| Se7h | much clear now :) | 02:43 |
| LaserJock | hmm, is simple-patchsys only used with cdbs? | 02:56 |
| tseng | yes | 02:56 |
| CDigger | I try to find any russian-speaking people in ubuntu developers community | 02:59 |
| CDigger | . Do you help me? | 02:59 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:56 |
| Kyral | bddebian!!! | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | hi Kyral and bddebian | 04:00 |
| Kyral | hey LJ | 04:00 |
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| LaserJock | anybody familiar with the Debian Python Policy? | 04:01 |
| Kyral | uhh | 04:01 |
| Kyral | oh god | 04:01 |
| Kyral | I remember something about site-python | 04:01 |
| Kyral | but I looked over it briefly | 04:01 |
| Kyral | prolly just wanna check the manual itself | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | yeah, a package I have in Debian installs a few .py files but it can be used by either 2.3 or 2.4 | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | so I'm wondering if I should install the files to /usr/lib/site-python/ rather than /usr/lib/python2.X/site-packages/ | 04:02 |
| Kyral | ask in #debian-mentors... | 04:03 |
| bddebian | Heya Kyral, LaserJock | 04:05 |
| bddebian | How'd I get a Karma of 5K? I haven't done shit lately :-( | 04:12 |
| tseng | you've done more than me, apperantly | 04:13 |
| tseng | i only have a few hundred points | 04:13 |
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| Amaranth | i think i have 300 | 04:32 |
| bddebian | Holy crap there are a lot of bugs out there.. :-( | 04:33 |
| Amaranth | Karma: 697 | 04:33 |
| Amaranth | ooh | 04:33 |
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| bddebian | Gah, looking at this bug list makes me remember how stupid I really am.. :-( | 04:43 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: please stop describing yourself as stupid | 04:46 |
| bddebian | ignorant? | 04:47 |
| bddebian | idiot? | 04:47 |
| ajmitch | just don't | 04:47 |
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| zakame | hi all | 05:28 |
| bddebian | Hello zakame | 05:28 |
| zakame | hi bddebian! | 05:29 |
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| kelmo | g'day | 09:58 |
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| siretart | kelmo: hi there! | 10:33 |
| siretart | kelmo: Yesterday, I had a quite stressful query with Scott, we really wanted some changes, which I reverted back | 10:34 |
| siretart | kelmo: I sent a summary of changes to pkg-wpa-devel, would be great if I could hear if you are okay with these changes | 10:35 |
| kelmo | hi siretart | 10:35 |
| kelmo | looking at them now | 10:35 |
| siretart | ok | 10:35 |
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| siretart | I tried to be quite detailed in the email | 10:36 |
| kelmo | the change to ifupdown script is most important to me personally, and it is fine | 10:37 |
| kelmo | i just cleaned it up a bit more | 10:37 |
| siretart | puh. then I'm delighted :) | 10:37 |
| kelmo | he could have removed more, but maybe was being too nice ; ) | 10:37 |
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| kelmo | oh | 10:38 |
| kelmo | well | 10:38 |
| kelmo | the symlinking | 10:38 |
| kelmo | hmm | 10:38 |
| siretart | yes, I was quite unsure about this point as well | 10:38 |
| siretart | but he has a point, if we don't break other packages, they won't be fixed | 10:39 |
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| siretart | hm. your last commit took away the support for this 'wpa-conf managed' completely | 10:40 |
| siretart | since we never released or advertised that, I'm okay | 10:40 |
| kelmo | well, wpa-conf is not even required with last changes | 10:40 |
| kelmo | so i just remove it | 10:40 |
| kelmo | ok, symlinks look ok, i have no problems with those | 10:41 |
| siretart | it wasn't required, it was even deprecated. but existing configs with that stanzas wouldn't break. now they do. but I don't have a bad concience with that | 10:41 |
| siretart | ok, I'm glad in particular that he helped us with the maintainer scripts. | 10:42 |
| siretart | espc. since he maintained dpkg for a while ;) | 10:42 |
| kelmo | how would they break wpa-conf X stanza's? | 10:43 |
| kelmo | (haven't tested yet) | 10:43 |
| kelmo | i would think the option would just be ignored | 10:43 |
| siretart | I mean if someone has a stanza 'wpa-conf ignored' | 10:43 |
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| kelmo | yeah | 10:43 |
| siretart | then the script will now notice that there is no file 'ignored' and bail out | 10:43 |
| kelmo | no | 10:44 |
| kelmo | if | 10:44 |
| kelmo | elif | 10:44 |
| kelmo | elif will catch it | 10:44 |
| siretart | argl. you are right | 10:44 |
| siretart | I'm wrong. everyone happy :) | 10:44 |
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| kelmo | well, the maintainer scripts, ok, i am happy he gave them some love | 10:44 |
| kelmo | and maybe the only other major change is the removal of the compat symlink to the binaries | 10:46 |
| kelmo | no probs with that here | 10:46 |
| lucas | raaah launchpad sucks | 10:49 |
| lucas | it is supposed to be xhtml | 10:49 |
| lucas | but isn't valid xml | 10:49 |
| siretart | lucas: tell #launchpad | 10:49 |
| lucas | yeah I know | 10:49 |
| lucas | just wanted to share by disapointment ;) | 10:50 |
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| kelmo | siretart: an important point is this: wpa-ssid is required for any meaninful e/n/i stanzas | 10:50 |
| kelmo | siretart: unless you plan to manuall self configure with wpa_{cli,gui} | 10:51 |
| kelmo | manually* | 10:51 |
| kelmo | all in all, it looks quite good, good enough for public consumption | 10:52 |
| siretart | kelmo: well, yes, but do we really need to handle this cornercase? I think that perhaps a note about this in README.modes should be sufficient | 10:56 |
| kelmo | siretart: no, i was just mentioning it, its not something that i am concerned about at all | 10:57 |
| siretart | ok. great :) | 10:57 |
| siretart | dapper/main is still in freeze | 10:57 |
| siretart | hmm | 10:57 |
| kelmo | i am really happy with all of it right now, thanks siretart (and Scott) | 10:58 |
| siretart | :) | 10:58 |
| siretart | ok, I'm off to uni now, and will see if I can upload wpasupplicant from there | 10:59 |
| siretart | will again retest wpasupplicant there, and ask nobse to upload it to debian then, ok? | 10:59 |
| kelmo | fine with me | 11:00 |
| siretart | ok. cu later, bye | 11:00 |
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| lucas | http://tiber.tauware.de/~lucas/t.html | 11:33 |
| lucas | multidistrotools now has build status :) | 11:33 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 12:27 |
| Gloubiboulga | hey phanatic | 12:28 |
| phanatic | hey Gloubiboulga :) | 12:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | Is it still time to package something NEW which won't need anything else for dapper? | 12:33 |
| Mithrandir | Gloubiboulga: yes | 12:33 |
| Gloubiboulga | cool :) | 12:33 |
| Gloubiboulga | I was thinking about listen, the gnome music player | 12:34 |
| Gloubiboulga | s/gnome/GNOME ;) | 12:34 |
| Toadstool | well not exactly THE GNOME music player but a promising GNOME equivalent to amaroK :) | 12:35 |
| Gloubiboulga | Toadstool, +1, it wasn't very clear | 12:36 |
| Toadstool | :) | 12:36 |
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| Gloubiboulga | can I use use a foo.install.in file to create the .install file during the build, or is it a policy violation or something? | 12:46 |
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| slomo__ | Gloubiboulga: why would you want to do that anyway? ;) but sounds like a policy violation imho... | 12:59 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo__, because the .install files for this package need to be updated for every new release | 01:01 |
| Gloubiboulga | some automated stuff could be cool, but it won't be enough in that case anyway | 01:01 |
| slomo__ | Gloubiboulga: why is that? is the version number in some path? | 01:01 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo__, yep | 01:01 |
| slomo__ | Gloubiboulga: use * ;) can you paste your .install file somewhere? just to take a look at it | 01:02 |
| Gloubiboulga | well, I've updated the version... | 01:02 |
| Gloubiboulga | debian/rules needs to be updated too | 01:03 |
| slomo__ | perfect ;) sounds very ugly | 01:03 |
| Gloubiboulga | it's for bug 32363 | 01:03 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 32363 in libccscript3 "libccscript3-1.0-0 has an unmet dep" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32363 | 01:03 |
| slomo__ | you can get the version in rules with something like this: UPVERSION = $(shell dpkg-parsechangelog | grep ^Vers | cut -d\ -f2 | sed 's,-.*,,') | 01:04 |
| slomo__ | and you could call dh_install directly in rules for the files/directories that have the version number somewhere | 01:05 |
| Gloubiboulga | yes, it could be a solution | 01:07 |
| Gloubiboulga | buit I think I'll attached a debdiff with harcoded version, and maybe work on this later and send a patch to the debian maintainer | 01:08 |
| slomo__ | Gloubiboulga: as long as it works... :) | 01:08 |
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| ajmitch | hi Hobbsee, raphink | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | hey ajmitch | 01:36 |
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| raphink | hi ajmitch :) | 01:36 |
| ajmitch | heh | 01:36 |
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| ajmitch | Hobbsee: enjoy dinner? | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yep :) - attempted to do the sudoku while munching, but it screwed up | 02:15 |
| ajmitch | heh | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | pasta bake - reheated from last night | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | I think bug triage while eating is better | 02:16 |
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| Hobbsee | :( | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: it could have been, but it was kinda messy, and i didnt want it over my keyboard | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | heh | 02:17 |
| ajmitch | it's rather annoying have to clean the keyboard after dinner | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | true | 02:19 |
| ajmitch | hm, looks like most of the RAM in this box is being used | 02:19 |
| ajmitch | closing firefox would probably free up 1GB or so | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | ah, 521M for firefix, 775M for galeon | 02:20 |
| Yagisan | evening all | 02:21 |
| ajmitch | hi Yagisan | 02:22 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: hows it going ? | 02:22 |
| ajmitch | good, how about you? | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | how's your wife going now? | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | hey Yagisan | 02:24 |
| Yagisan | physicall the same, but getting more depressed | 02:24 |
| Yagisan | evening Hobbsee | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 02:24 |
| Yagisan | I've been trying to build things with my nice shiny gcc41 but I must have a mistake in my test .debs rules file | 02:25 |
| Yagisan | I have an "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.1" | 02:26 |
| Yagisan | but the app dies with | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | CXX? | 02:26 |
| Yagisan | checking for i486-linux-gnu-gcc... /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 | 02:26 |
| Yagisan | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | hm | 02:26 |
| Mithrandir | Yagisan: do you have build-essential installed? | 02:26 |
| Yagisan | Mithrandir: yep. it's in a pbuilder | 02:26 |
| Mithrandir | oh, gcc 4.1 | 02:26 |
| Mithrandir | what does config.log look like? | 02:27 |
| Yagisan | no idea. pbuilder unhelpfully erased it, so I need to login and run it again | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: someone's complaining about zope in #ubuntu+1 | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: great | 02:29 |
| === ajmitch doesn't feel like joining another channel right now | ||
| Hobbsee | did you want to go speak to htem, on what they can do? | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | heh ok | 02:29 |
| === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee | ||
| Hobbsee | ack! | 02:30 |
| === Hobbsee is jumped on | ||
| ajmitch | not particularly, since they can't do much with zope 2.x right now | 02:30 |
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| Hobbsee | okay | 02:30 |
| ajmitch | not until some new packages are thrown into universe | 02:30 |
| === Hobbsee tickles StevenK, then defenestrates him | ||
| === StevenK pouts, picking broken glass out of his clothes. | ||
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you went easy on him today | 02:32 |
| === StevenK requeues the first track from the new RevCo album. | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | yes, only for today | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | darn...i always get the tab and enter keys around the wrong way... | 02:32 |
| StevenK | Oh, I can see how you could confuse them. | 02:32 |
| === Hobbsee has been to work, you see | ||
| ajmitch | you say my name, and I suddenly think you're about to say some horribly important statement | 02:32 |
| StevenK | You know, them being so close together. | 02:32 |
| === Hobbsee thwaps StevenK! | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe sorry ajmitch :) | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: i tend to hit aj<tab>, enter, enter | 02:33 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Hah | 02:33 |
| === ajmitch should change to something different | ||
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Only because you're stalking him. | 02:33 |
| === Hobbsee isnt stalking anyone! | ||
| StevenK | Oh damn, I wasn't supposed to tell. | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:34 |
| === StevenK introduces Hobbsee to the "'". | ||
| ajmitch | you could probably find out where I live, etc in about 10 minutes | 02:34 |
| === Hobbsee thinks the ' is overrated | ||
| StevenK | ajmitch: Less for me. :-P | 02:34 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: yes but you're special :P | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: probably, most people give way too much info over the net. | 02:34 |
| === Hobbsee is unfindable | ||
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you've got more reason to be unfindable | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | yes, i know | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | more at stake | 02:35 |
| ajmitch | most guys don't get harassed | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | yes...lucky them | 02:35 |
| === StevenK protects Hobbsee. | ||
| === Hobbsee smiles, and hides behind StevenK | ||
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: we can find you. it's only about 2 million places to door knock | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 02:36 |
| Yagisan | ;) | 02:36 |
| StevenK | Slightly less, since I know what suburb about she lives in. | 02:36 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: is 'protects' some euphemism for 'jumps on'? | 02:36 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: I'll pick you up and we can start tonight? :-P | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | we had to call security tonight - some random thugs were going around in the shopping centre, stealing stuff... | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:36 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: Certainly not. | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: i only gave you an approx suburb :P | 02:36 |
| StevenK | It narrows it down to roughly a 5km radius instead of 'the whole of Sydney' | 02:37 |
| Yagisan | StevenK: I can't :( It takes the babysitter about 14 hours to fly over, so I need advance planning | 02:37 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:37 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: :-P | 02:37 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: ok, I'll take your place then? | 02:37 |
| === Hobbsee would suggest that instead of trying to find her house, people try to find her uni | ||
| StevenK | I don't need to try. | 02:38 |
| StevenK | My sister goes to MQ | 02:38 |
| Mithrandir | there are only like five of those in Sydney? | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | then you'd only have a few buildings to search through. | 02:38 |
| StevenK | Mithrandir: Um, more like 12 | 02:38 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: my place is on my website. hell, I can even give you the google maps link if you want | 02:38 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: and we know what you're studying | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yeah, that gives it away | 02:38 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: but do they know what you look like? | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | guess you could find what subjects i do, therefore what rooms i'm in for the lectures | 02:39 |
| StevenK | No, but we have her name, so we'll just have to ask to see everyon's ID. | 02:39 |
| Yagisan | yep. a chick. should be easy to find. | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: not that i recall - i dont think i've given pics out around here | 02:39 |
| StevenK | Er, everyone | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 02:39 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: :-P | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: there's more than one chick, hehe! | 02:39 |
| StevenK | There'll only be like four of them | 02:39 |
| Yagisan | and only one with an Ubuntu system | 02:39 |
| Yagisan | easy. | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:39 |
| StevenK | Ah hah, a clue | 02:39 |
| === StevenK high fives Yagisan | ||
| Hobbsee | when i actually take in my laptop, yes | 02:40 |
| === Hobbsee would probably happily meet up with you people, as long as you signed my key! | ||
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: they'll stalk the building for weeks, then | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:41 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: as long as you could prove you really are who you say you are | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: sure. drivers licence, and student ID for uni. | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | 2 forms of photo id. | 02:41 |
| === ajmitch might go through sydney in july or october or both | ||
| ajmitch | since there's no longer direct flights to melbourne from dunedin | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | ugh. | 02:42 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: I need my new key signed, so I'm sure I could meet you at some stage | 02:42 |
| ajmitch | either that or I'll fly christchurch->melbourne | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | pft, who wants to go to melbourne anyway? :P | 02:43 |
| Mithrandir | they got decent beer in Melbourne, don't they? | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | Mithrandir: speaking of keys, I've still got your business card on my desk :) | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | decent beer? in australia? | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:43 |
| Mithrandir | ajmitch: cooper's good | 02:43 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt drink beer anyway, so wouldnt know - too dangerous | ||
| Mithrandir | beer is good. | 02:44 |
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| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: what's dangerous about beer? | 02:44 |
| ajmitch | at least you didn't say fosters was good | 02:44 |
| Mithrandir | beer, I said. | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: well, probably me drinking it....which could lead to other things that i'd prefer not to think about... | 02:44 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: you know, there's somewhere between "sober" and "completely wasted and doesn't remember anything the next day". :-P | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | well, to be perfectly honest, i was more thinking along the lines of being groped and/or harrassed, but yeah, i see your point :P | 02:45 |
| === Hobbsee wants a change in subject! | ||
| === ajmitch wonders what can be more on-topic than beer | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | the beer i can cope with - the other...i'd prefer not to go there | 02:46 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 02:47 |
| ajmitch | you could always just fix bugs | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | that is true | 02:47 |
| Yagisan | beer. that tastes like crap. | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | and create more in the process | 02:47 |
| Yagisan | sprits are much better | 02:48 |
| Yagisan | :) | 02:48 |
| Yagisan | gcc4.1 is mocking me | 02:48 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: depends on the type - eg I wouldn't drink nasty cheap vodka | 02:48 |
| === StevenK wonders if Al Jourgesmann can actually form a band that doesn't at least sound a little like the others he has formed. | ||
| StevenK | Al Jourgensen, that is | 02:49 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: I rather like umeshu (japanese plum wine) and midori (japanese melon liquor - apparently a chicks drink, but I haven't been out in like 6 years now) | 02:50 |
| StevenK | Yes, Midori is a chick drink. | 02:50 |
| === StevenK has a fondness for scotch. | ||
| ajmitch | StevenK: good taste | 02:50 |
| Yagisan | but it tastes so nice. I can easy drink the whole bottle, and still be sober | 02:51 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: And you wonder why it's a chick drink? | 02:51 |
| Yagisan | I like a good bourbon myself | 02:51 |
| StevenK | I have bourbon too | 02:51 |
| === ajmitch hasn't had bourbon for quite awhile | ||
| ajmitch | probably years :) | 02:51 |
| StevenK | And vodka, tequila, etc ... | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 02:52 |
| === ajmitch rarely has much to drink | ||
| === Hobbsee has pretended to be drunk before - was quite amusing | ||
| Yagisan | StevenK: mate, 6 years since I've been out. midori does have a relatively high alcohol content though | 02:52 |
| Yagisan | hmm. my rules file mus be stuffed. gcc4.1 works inside the pbuilder manually, but not in an autobuild setup | 02:54 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: while pretending, where there any guys that *didn't* hit on you ? | 02:54 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: The gay ones? :-P | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: that was with the girls... | 02:54 |
| StevenK | Muahahaha, did any of them attempt it? :-P | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | i never did get hit on much thru school though - only wiht people since i left... | 02:55 |
| === StevenK hides. | ||
| === Hobbsee THWACKS StevenK! | ||
| StevenK | But I'm hiding! | 02:55 |
| tseng | phew | 02:55 |
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| Hobbsee | we never had any girls like that! at least, that i know of! | 02:55 |
| tseng | good morning to you lot, too | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | hey tseng | 02:55 |
| StevenK | Heh | 02:55 |
| ajmitch | hello tseng | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | doesnt mean i cant find you StevenK... | 02:55 |
| === StevenK shrouds himself. | ||
| Hobbsee | good luck! | 02:58 |
| tseng | anyone have a decent terminal emulator for win32? | 02:59 |
| tseng | i am getting pretty sick of putty | 02:59 |
| tseng | urxvt looks much nicer | 02:59 |
| Yagisan | tseng: cygwin ? | 03:00 |
| tseng | cygwin isnt much better imo | 03:00 |
| Yagisan | tseng: no it isn't, but just a thought | 03:00 |
| tseng | oh yeah | 03:00 |
| tseng | Xterm has | 03:00 |
| tseng | AA now | 03:00 |
| tseng | maybe the cygwin version will be okayish | 03:00 |
| Yagisan | hmm, my system is mocking me | 03:07 |
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| Yagisan | interesting, CC= is set in config.log, but CPP etc is empty | 03:21 |
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| MrFaber | hi all | 03:33 |
| MrFaber | I have problems with all vnc versions with amd64 Brezzy and Dapper | 03:33 |
| MrFaber | And vnc4 isn't in repository | 03:34 |
| Yagisan | ahh. I worked out why gcc4.1 was dying on me | 03:34 |
| MrFaber | at least vnc3 and tightvnc | 03:34 |
| MrFaber | any reason why there is no vnc4? | 03:34 |
| Yagisan | configure:2541: /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 -Wall -g3 -fstack-protector -O2 -mtune=i686 conftest.c >&5 | 03:34 |
| Yagisan | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssp_nonshared | 03:34 |
| Yagisan | looks like it was a PEBKAC error (again) | 03:35 |
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| Hobbsee | night all, Yagisan, StevenK | 03:49 |
| Yagisan | Night Hobbsee | 03:50 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:33 |
| === Yagisan contemplates dist-upgrading his main box | ||
| bddebian | Do it.. :-) | 04:39 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: it will involve a transition from uim to scim | 04:41 |
| bddebian | Ah | 04:41 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: it my wife can't type japanese, I may as well cut my own nuts off now | 04:41 |
| jamessan | heh | 04:41 |
| bddebian | Hehe | 04:41 |
| Yagisan | ok. I'll multi-stage it. scim first, then nvidia binary crap, then evolution. if they go well, rest of system. | 04:43 |
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| adn | hi again | 05:01 |
| bddebian | Hello adn | 05:01 |
| adn | still me and the vlc package | 05:01 |
| adn | I did not get any answer from scott | 05:02 |
| adn | hey, buxy! | 05:02 |
| adn | hi bddebian | 05:02 |
| buxy | hey adn :) | 05:02 |
| infinito | Kyral: ping | 05:07 |
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| infinito | doen anyone know if pkgs on revu.tauware.net can enter dapper yet? | 05:08 |
| infinito | s/doen/does | 05:11 |
| lucas | new packages ? | 05:12 |
| lucas | or updated ones ? | 05:12 |
| siretart | infinito: revu.tauware.de is some sort of presentation place. you it to show your work to others | 05:12 |
| infinito | thats 'cause someone (kyral) uploaded and old version of my applet to revu, and its still there | 05:13 |
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| infinito | ans i would to know if i can upload my own pkg to revu | 05:13 |
| infinito | altought there's a previous version there | 05:13 |
| siretart | infinito: there is no automatic progress from revu to dapper. and yes, everyone can upload packages to revu | 05:13 |
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| infinito | siretart: i mean, it already on revu, but an old version, and i want to upload the latest | 05:14 |
| siretart | infinito: then just do it. revu doesn't care for version numbers. only upload date | 05:15 |
| infinito | siretart: ok, im gonna do it | 05:15 |
| Yagisan | infinito: remember, source only uploads to revu | 05:15 |
| infinito | Yagisan: yes, i did already, but a long ago, so i need to reread the docs... | 05:16 |
| Yagisan | infinito: iirc, it's just a -S to the build opts in pbuilderrc | 05:16 |
| infinito | Yagisan: my pbuilder needs to be against dapper right? | 05:18 |
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| Yagisan | siretart: while I spearhead the correct licensing efforts of deng, can I still do uploads of deng for packaging revu ? | 05:18 |
| Yagisan | infinito: source only uploads don't matter so much, but it helps to have a dapper pbuilder for binary testing | 05:19 |
| siretart | Yagisan: in principle yes, but please make sure to add a big TODO note in debian/copyright to not confuse reviewers | 05:19 |
| Yagisan | siretart: sure. It is a big notice. upstream was rather happy I audited the code. | 05:20 |
| siretart | I image | 05:21 |
| infinito | one silly question... to have a dapper pbuilder ina breezy environment, do i ned to install bootstrap from dapper? | 05:28 |
| bddebian | Damn, I feel sooo out of the game :-( | 05:28 |
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| Yagisan | infinito: no | 05:30 |
| Yagisan | infinito: in pbuilderrc "DISTRIBUTION=dapper" | 05:31 |
| siretart | infinito: installing debstrap from dapper is a good idea anyway, however | 05:32 |
| infinito | siretart, Yagisan: ok thanks, im updating pbuilder to dapper... | 05:35 |
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| freeflying | hi motus, can I use the project name in a package's for the author , because there are too many guys contribute to it | 05:43 |
| Yagisan | cough cough choke choke 1062MB to upgrade ??? | 05:43 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 05:47 |
| phanatic | hey raphink, Gloubiboulga | 05:47 |
| freeflying | siretart: hi | 05:47 |
| raphink | hi phanatic | 05:47 |
| freeflying | raphink: ping | 05:47 |
| raphink | hi freeflying | 05:47 |
| freeflying | raphink: how about my problem above | 05:48 |
| raphink | there is usually one original/main author | 05:48 |
| raphink | and there can be many contributors | 05:48 |
| raphink | just give the name of the main devs | 05:48 |
| raphink | and let alone the contributors | 05:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi phanatic | 05:48 |
| raphink | yop Gloubiboulga | 05:49 |
| freeflying | raphink: thx | 05:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | salut raphink | 05:49 |
| raphink | a roule Gloubiboulga? | 05:50 |
| Gloubiboulga | yes, et toi ? | 05:50 |
| raphink | ouep a peut aller :) | 05:50 |
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| phanatic | hi G0SUB | 06:05 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: hello! | 06:06 |
| phanatic | G0SUB: can i /msg you? | 06:06 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: sure | 06:06 |
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| Meyer | can anyone review the last update from roundcube-webmail?? the new upstream has nice enhancements over the one already on universe.. it's just a new upstream version of a package already uploaded to universe... | 06:17 |
| G0SUB | Meyer: are there any critical bug fixes? | 06:20 |
| Meyer | nope | 06:21 |
| Meyer | i guess just feature enhancements | 06:21 |
| G0SUB | Meyer: we are in a Feature freeze now ... only bug fixes will make it | 06:21 |
| G0SUB | IMO | 06:21 |
| Meyer | ohh.. i tought that w/ the delay the FF wasnt in yet | 06:22 |
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| Zdra | hi ! is there a reason why gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse is in universe ?? shouldn't it be renamed to gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-universe then ? | 06:27 |
| pef | does someone knows something about "terrasoftsolutions.com" company ? not very renown in eu | 06:27 |
| infinito | is it possible to have 2 pbuilders, one for breezy and another for dapper? | 06:28 |
| phanatic | infinito: you need two config files imho | 06:28 |
| infinito | phanatic: and will they not interfer each other on /var/cache/pbuilder? | 06:28 |
| Se7h | hum, 'spe' as been bug fixed and not yet revised tho.. | 06:29 |
| phanatic | infinito: no idea :( but it should work i think... | 06:30 |
| Gloubiboulga | infinito, I have 3 pbuilders here | 06:30 |
| Gloubiboulga | dapper/breezy/sid | 06:31 |
| infinito | Gloubiboulga: how to do it? | 06:31 |
| Gloubiboulga | I've created several pbuilderrc files | 06:31 |
| Yagisan | Gloubiboulga: pfft - only 3 | 06:31 |
| Gloubiboulga | and you can choose wich one you want to use with `pbuilder --configfile file' | 06:31 |
| Gloubiboulga | Yagisan, yes, I'm a beginner ;) | 06:32 |
| infinito | Gloubiboulga, phanatic : thank u very much :) | 06:32 |
| Erlang | infinito: just don't forget to specify a different .tgz file for each in /var/cache/pbuilder | 06:32 |
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| infinito | Gloubiboulga: and the files inside apt.config?? | 06:32 |
| Yagisan | Gloubiboulga: I've got 8 so far. | 06:33 |
| Gloubiboulga | infinito, iirc you can set the dir that contains those files in pbuilderrc | 06:33 |
| Erlang | 8 pbuilders? | 06:33 |
| infinito | Gloubiboulga: ok, i see, thanks! | 06:33 |
| Gloubiboulga | infinito, np :) | 06:34 |
| infinito | one more stupid question, is it possible to login in a pbuilder chroot and execute gnome, for example? | 06:34 |
| Erlang | warty, hoary, breezy, dapper, etch, sid, but what else? | 06:34 |
| Yagisan | Erlang: yep. an amd64 and an i386 each of Sarge, Breezy, Dapper, and a Research project based on Dapper | 06:35 |
| Erlang | oh | 06:35 |
| Gloubiboulga | infinito, I don't think so, but i'm really not sure for this | 06:35 |
| Erlang | you run AMD64? how did you create an i386 pbuilder of Breezy? | 06:35 |
| Yagisan | Erlang: Research project is essentially an "Harderned Ubuntu" | 06:36 |
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| Erlang | infinito: You need to set DISPLAY for sure but probably other things. | 06:36 |
| Yagisan | Erlang: --arch i386 | 06:36 |
| Erlang | that never worked for me... | 06:36 |
| Erlang | it does now... wtf | 06:38 |
| Yagisan | Erlang: the other way was to build an i386 chroot and install in there | 06:38 |
| Yagisan | Erlang: don't ask, just enjoy | 06:38 |
| Erlang | well it seems to be working with --debbuiltopts --arch i386, but whenever I tried that it failed with a strange error message. | 06:39 |
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| Chris_ | can someone help me out? | 06:41 |
| Chris_ | :( ubuntu crashed today. . | 06:41 |
| Chris_ | it freezes and beeps twice before hand | 06:41 |
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| Chris_ | and i can't really go into the desktop | 06:42 |
| jpatrick | Chris_: #ubuntu | 06:42 |
| Chris_ | and i am clueless what to do! | 06:42 |
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| Erlang | Yagisan: It doesn't work. It just made a Breezy 64 bit chroot... | 06:43 |
| Yagisan | Erlang: I built mine in my i386 chroot. | 06:45 |
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| Erlang | ah | 06:46 |
| Erlang | that's the typical way to proceed it seems | 06:46 |
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| Erlang | because I get E: No such script: http://archive.ubuntu.com, otherwise | 06:46 |
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| Se7h | what the hell | 07:18 |
| Se7h | why isnt the app going into the gnome menu ? o.0 | 07:18 |
| Se7h | the menu file looks ok | 07:18 |
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| goslackware | Se7h, save all of what you're doing then, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart | 07:22 |
| Se7h | do i need to restart gdm ? | 07:23 |
| Se7h | i havent till now | 07:23 |
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| goslackware | or, actually first you can try, killlall gnome-panel | 07:24 |
| Se7h | goslackware yes i know, i was trying to avoid it | 07:25 |
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| Se7h | oh well gnome-panel all screwd up and the app still isnt there | 07:26 |
| Se7h | brb | 07:26 |
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| goslackware | Se7h, did it work? | 07:33 |
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| Se7h | goslackware nop | 07:35 |
| goslackware | I think `killall gnome-panel` to restart your panel or `killall nautilus` may have also given you what you wanted | 07:35 |
| goslackware | ok, what your issue exactly? | 07:35 |
| Se7h | i cant figure why is wont go there | 07:35 |
| goslackware | um, which app? | 07:36 |
| goslackware | I just got on IRC a min ago | 07:36 |
| Se7h | transmission | 07:36 |
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| goslackware | what's/where's that? | 07:37 |
| Se7h | http://transmission.m0k.org/ | 07:37 |
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| goslackware | did you do a source build? | 07:39 |
| Se7h | a..ye | 07:40 |
| goslackware | oh, you did.... | 07:40 |
| goslackware | I would suggest use apt-get instead | 07:41 |
| goslackware | I'll install it myself and see it | 07:41 |
| LaserJock | hi azeem | 07:42 |
| Se7h | hi LaserJock | 07:43 |
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| jpatrick | hola jinty | 07:45 |
| Se7h | goslackware any luck with the apt-get? :p | 07:45 |
| jinty | heya jpatrick | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | hi Se7h | 07:46 |
| goslackware | um.... | 07:47 |
| goslackware | they have an rpm package using apt | 07:48 |
| Se7h | so ? | 07:51 |
| Se7h | LaserJock can u give a hand here? | 07:51 |
| goslackware | I just got it installed from the rpm | 07:52 |
| goslackware | now I'm checking to see what it did | 07:52 |
| goslackware | wget http://naturidentisch.de/packages/fc4/transmission/transmission-0.5-2.cru.i386.rpm | 07:52 |
| goslackware | sudo alien transmission-0.5-2.cru.i386.rpm | 07:52 |
| goslackware | sudo dpkg -i transmission_0.5-3_i386.deb | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | Se7h: perhaps, I'm pretty busy at the moment | 07:53 |
| Se7h | goslackware that no source package :) | 07:54 |
| Se7h | LaserJock the little thing here is that the app isnt going into the gnome menu, dunno why | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | does it have a .desktop file? | 07:54 |
| Se7h | oh right..no | 07:55 |
| goslackware | doing the three commands above I now have a shortcut | 07:55 |
| Se7h | isnt the menu file enought ? | 07:55 |
| goslackware | but... | 07:55 |
| goslackware | I get a slient error when trying to run it | 07:55 |
| goslackware | depenecy error I think | 07:56 |
| Se7h | goslackware ;) | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | Se7h: Use alacarte to add it to your menu | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | or add a .desktop file to the source package | 07:57 |
| Se7h | i'll go for the second | 07:57 |
| Se7h | i dont know who to create such file tho | 07:57 |
| Se7h | *how | 07:57 |
| Amaranth | freedesktop.org has a specification for it | 07:58 |
| Se7h | ok, ty | 07:58 |
| Amaranth | but it's probably easier to look at the desktop file for another program | 07:58 |
| Amaranth | modify it, then use the spec to figure out what to put in for Categories | 07:58 |
| Se7h | Amaranth i have on of those here, i cant edit it tho | 08:04 |
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| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | hiya bddebian and ajmitch | 08:05 |
| bddebian | Hi LaserJock | 08:05 |
| Se7h | *one | 08:06 |
| Se7h | damm im dislexic | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | Se7h: just copy a .desktop from /usr/share/applications and modify it | 08:06 |
| goslackware | ok, got it to work | 08:09 |
| goslackware | I would have been done sooner but I made a type in my cli | 08:10 |
| goslackware | *typo | 08:10 |
| goslackware | ok, | 08:11 |
| goslackware | after you do the three command from above then do: | 08:11 |
| goslackware | sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libcrypto.so /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.5 | 08:11 |
| goslackware | so, like this: | 08:12 |
| goslackware | wget http://naturidentisch.de/packages/fc4/transmission/transmission-0.5-2.cru.i386.rpm | 08:12 |
| goslackware | sudo alien transmission-0.5-2.cru.i386.rpm | 08:12 |
| goslackware | sudo dpkg -i transmission_0.5-3_i386.deb | 08:12 |
| goslackware | sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libcrypto.so /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.5 | 08:12 |
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| goslackware | oh, and then: | 08:14 |
| goslackware | killall gnome-panel | 08:14 |
| goslackware | amaranth is alacarte better than smeg? | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | it is the new smeg I think | 08:16 |
| ogra | goslackware, is OO | 08:16 |
| goslackware | 00? | 08:16 |
| ogra | .O2 better than OO.O1 ? | 08:16 |
| ogra | (open office) :) | 08:16 |
| goslackware | oh, is oo.o 2 better than oo.o 1 you mean? | 08:17 |
| Amaranth | yeah, alacarte is the latest version of smeg | 08:17 |
| ogra | yes ... | 08:17 |
| goslackware | ok, I'll try it, smeg sucks | 08:17 |
| Amaranth | *cough* | 08:17 |
| Amaranth | (i wrote both) | 08:18 |
| goslackware | oh | 08:18 |
| goslackware | I'm very glad you're continuing developement | 08:18 |
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| LaserJock | I think smeg is the only reason I didn't ditch Gnome when I first came to Ubuntu | 08:21 |
| Amaranth | :D | 08:21 |
| Amaranth | i'm going to try to get 0.9 into gnome 2.16 | 08:21 |
| goslackware | yeah alacarte is better | 08:22 |
| Amaranth | goslackware: except for the icon selector | 08:22 |
| Amaranth | goslackware: the gnome widget i use sucks, i didn't discover this until after i released | 08:22 |
| goslackware | and that would be fd.o? | 08:23 |
| Amaranth | ? | 08:23 |
| Amaranth | the icon selector has nothing to do with freedesktop.org | 08:23 |
| goslackware | oh, nevermind | 08:23 |
| goslackware | ok | 08:24 |
| goslackware | do you have the 0.9 hosted somewhere? | 08:26 |
| goslackware | or a cvs | 08:27 |
| goslackware | nevermind looking at the site now | 08:28 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 09:00 |
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| jpatrick | hi phanatic | 09:20 |
| phanatic | hey jpatrick | 09:20 |
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| raphink | siretart: hehe | 09:33 |
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| siretart | raphink: :) | 09:35 |
| siretart | raphink: I used that oppurtunity to update our email template here: http://tiber.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/KeyImport | 09:35 |
| raphink | ah ok siretart | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | :/ Pbuilder is failing today on something I didn't change | 09:39 |
| raphink | ah :( | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | http://pastebin.com/633139 | 09:40 |
| raphink | knm building :) | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | I don't understand why it would fail today | 09:44 |
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| freeflying-ibook | raphink: ping | 10:35 |
| raphink | freeflying-ibook: pong | 10:35 |
| freeflying-ibook | raphink: plz drop this one http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2229 | 10:36 |
| raphink | archive ? | 10:36 |
| freeflying-ibook | raphink: I upload wrong version | 10:36 |
| freeflying-ibook | raphink: remove them | 10:36 |
| raphink | do you want me to nuke it ? | 10:37 |
| freeflying-ibook | raphink: nuke ? | 10:37 |
| raphink | nuke = remove it permanently | 10:37 |
| freeflying-ibook | raphink: up to you | 10:37 |
| raphink | ok I'll nuke it | 10:38 |
| raphink | done | 10:38 |
| freeflying-ibook | raphink: have time reviewing ? | 10:38 |
| raphink | not right now | 10:38 |
| raphink | I have to prepare something to eat | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | raphink: can you nuke something real quick for me? | 10:38 |
| freeflying-ibook | raphink: me too :) | 10:39 |
| raphink | LaserJock: what? | 10:39 |
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| LaserJock | raphink: squeak-image | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | I uploaded it to show ogra but it is the repo now | 10:39 |
| raphink | nuked LaserJock | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | raphink: thanks | 10:40 |
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| LaserJock | raphink: ping? | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | morning | 11:16 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 11:17 |
| ajmitch | what's new? | 11:17 |
| LaserJock | Bug Day | 11:18 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:18 |
| ajmitch | not new :) | 11:18 |
| LaserJock | new bugs, sometimes | 11:18 |
| ajmitch | sigh, people who assign to an upstream product in malone | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | hopefully the bug watch code will pick up the status properly | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: I really don't understand the bug watch stuff | 11:22 |
| ajmitch | it's not meant to be understood :) | 11:24 |
| LaserJock | I wish we had a way of clicking on something in Malone and have it file the bug in Debian (or something similar) although maybe that would lead to trouble | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | it could lead to a lot of trouble | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | I guess I just need to develop an efficient technique for pushing stuff to Debian, I hate having to carry deltas ;-) | 11:30 |
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