[12:07] <KaiL_> Sime, ping?
[12:07] <Sime> hi
[12:07] <KaiL_> you are the guy to ask about kde-guidance or displayconfig
[12:07] <Sime> yes
[12:07] <KaiL_> that tool is not really working, or? ;)
[12:09] <Sime> works here
[12:09] <Sime> although it has some trouble for other people.
[12:09] <KaiL_> I tried to set up a dual-screen-config here
[12:09] <KaiL_> which, uhm, didn't work at all
[12:10] <Sime> feel free to file a bug report
[12:11] <KaiL_> the problem is, that I can't find the REAL problem, which let's it fail here
[12:11] <KaiL_> the config looks quite ok
[12:12] <Seveas> raphink/riddell: ubugtu now also knows bugs.kde.org (eg kde bug 13211)
[12:12] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 13211 in general "KDE Control Center" [Normal,Closed: fixed]  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13211
[12:12] <Tm_T> <3
[12:12] <Tm_T> Seveas: wonderful
[12:12] <Seveas> @bugtracker list
[12:12] <Ubugtu> debian, django, freedesktop, gnome, gnome2, kde, madwifi, malone, mozilla, openoffice, trac, ubuntu, and ximian
[12:13] <Seveas> if you want more bugtrackers added, just poke (only bugzilla/issuezilla/malone/debbugs/trac instances)
[12:13] <KaiL_> Sime, should it work on intel i810, or does it interfer with the chips own "intelligence" to detect dual screens and so on?
[12:14] <Sime> KaiL_: Does it offer dual screen on i810?
[12:14] <KaiL_> yes
[12:15] <Sime> KaiL_: does it produce a valid xinerama xorg.conf for i810?
[12:15] <KaiL_> but even with a config, which looks ok for me, I can't get something else than clone mode (which is NOT set by me)
[12:15] <Pygi> Lure: ping
[12:16] <KaiL_> it looks valid to me. except some smaller issues in the "monitor" sections
[12:16] <Lure> Pygi: pong
[12:16] <Pygi> Lure: what kind of name is that? :-/
[12:17] <KaiL_> the most annoying bug is, that it doesn#t start any more, after you are in Xinerama-mode (due to missing XRANDR)
[12:17] <Pygi> version *
[12:17] <Lure> Pygi: which name?
[12:17] <Pygi> for the network-manager-kde
[12:17] <Pygi> version I meant
[12:17] <Pygi> why are we using "~"?
[12:18] <Lure> no released version, therefore rXXXX and ~ in order to be able to override in case of 0.1 actually get released
[12:18] <Pygi> o joy
[12:18] <Sime> KaiL_: the xrandr problem is being worked on. Did you have anothe monitor connected to the second output when you restart Xorg?
[12:18] <Lure> it is standard ubuntu naming - anyway Tonio_ is the packager
[12:18] <KaiL_> Sime, yes
[12:18] <KaiL_> should I try without?
[12:18] <KaiL_> ..and connect later
[12:19] <Sime> no
[12:19] <Sime> what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[12:24] <Lure> Sime: can you check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=880131
[12:26] <KaiL_> logfile looks ok at first, even detects both screens...
[12:26] <Sime> Lure: xdpyinfo reports the DPI from the X server. This is not the same as the DPI that fontconfig uses.
[12:27] <Sime> Lure: fontconfig uses one set in the X resource thingy database. (xrdb?)
[12:29] <Pygi> Lure: please see the forum, but do not comment pls ;)
[12:32] <KaiL_> http://pastebin.ca/47739
[12:32] <KaiL_> uhm, damn..
[12:34] <Lure> Pygi: ;)
[12:35] <Pygi> Lure: ;)
[12:38] <Lure> Sime|Zzz: true, I forgot that we only hack font DPI...
[01:08] <Riddell> qui est francais?
[01:08] <Riddell> raphink?
[01:08] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/26936
[01:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 26936 in kdebase kate "unindent keyboard shortcut not working in kate" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  
[01:59] <freeflying-ibook> Riddell: ping
[02:00] <freeflying-ibook> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11188
[02:02] <freeflying-ibook> Riddell: I've patched kdebase , and build the module for logout theme
[02:04] <Riddell> freeflying: interesting
[02:04] <Riddell> freeflying: where is the patch from?
[03:34] <Pygi> is espresso available in QT version as well*
[03:34] <Pygi> ?
[03:37] <Lure> Pygi: that is what Riddell is doing last weeks ;)
[03:38] <Pygi> well, is it done?
[03:39] <Lure> thing are never done, but something is included...
[03:39] <Riddell> Pygi: it's available, but still has a long TODO list
[03:39] <Riddell> hello faked, who are you?
[03:40] <Pygi> thanks Riddell ;)
[03:41] <faked> hi Riddell, I don't understand your question. Are you searching for a special faked?
[03:41] <Riddell> faked: /msg
[03:44] <faked> Riddell: can't you read my /msg?
[03:44] <Riddell> faked: I can
[03:44] <faked> ok
[03:48] <Lure> debian bug 351069
[03:48] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 351069 in wnpp "Subject: ITP: knetworkmanager -- system tray applet for controlling NetworkManager" [Wishlist,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/351069
[03:49] <Hobbsee> Lure: do i read the wiki page about knm correctly?
[03:51] <Lure> Hobbsee: probably yes - which part
[03:52] <Hobbsee> that it's in universe?
[03:52] <Lure> That is just April 1st gift... ;-)
[03:52] <Lure> try and see - remove and install
[03:52] <Hobbsee> it's showing with apt-cache search as being from universe
[03:53] <Hobbsee> anyway, it's no longer april 1..
[03:53] <Lure> Hobbsee: not for you...
[03:57] <Hobbsee> tru
[03:57] <Hobbsee> e
[03:57] <Hobbsee> night....
[04:38] <freeflying> Riddell: PING
[04:39] <Riddell> freeflying: hi
[04:39] <freeflying> Riddell: the patch is from kde-apps
[04:40] <freeflying> Riddell: the author is from chinese 
[04:42] <freeflying> Riddell: need it 
[04:43] <Riddell> freeflying: add it to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFutureIdeas
[04:44] <freeflying> Riddell: okey
[04:44] <Riddell> hmm, why have anti aliases fonts stopped working by default
[04:45] <freeflying> Riddell: need work on default kdm fonts , it can not disolay cginese correctly
[04:46] <Riddell> oh?
[04:46] <freeflying> sure
[04:47] <Riddell> is it different from kde proper?
[04:47] <freeflying> the users can diplay correctly , but not kdm's
[05:56] <pradeepto> Riddell: since you said df6 was out? do you want me use this for testing purposes ? I dont see an announcement yet!
[05:58] <Riddell> announcement is stuck in the moderation queue
[05:58] <pradeepto> oke cool
[05:59] <pradeepto> will wait
[07:13] <OdyX> Tm_T: 'got a new issue with your Kopete version ... => No display of "personnal message"
[07:20] <Tm_T> err
[07:21] <Tm_T> you mean "status message" ?
[07:21] <Tm_T> doesn't show status messages of contacts?
[07:21] <Tm_T> or your own?
[07:22] <Tm_T> OdyX: uhm
[07:22] <OdyX> Mine is shown
[07:22] <OdyX> but other's no
[07:22] <Tm_T> hmm
[07:22] <Tm_T> I can see
[07:23] <Tm_T> so don't blame me =)
[07:23] <OdyX> and in fact, I'm sure they have
[07:23] <OdyX> I'm not blaming you.... just reporting bugs (as your version is not in Launchpad)
[07:23] <OdyX> but I could report the regression (GPG...)
[07:26] <Tm_T> hmm
[07:29] <Tm_T> well, I'm not sure is it bug or not
[07:31] <OdyX> well... I don't even know..
[07:31] <OdyX> but it could be occasion to discuss it...
[07:32] <Tm_T> if you can verify it then file a bug to bugs.kde.org
[07:33] <Tm_T> but make sure it really happens, not just "I think there's bug" ;)
[07:36] <OdyX> it what way ?
[07:36] <Tm_T> well, testing
[07:36] <OdyX> I mean... which issue ? not showing "status messages" or "removal of cryptografic plugin" ?
[07:36] <Tm_T> and asking if some other user has same
[07:36] <Tm_T> first
[07:37] <OdyX> OK... Indeed, I'm sure that was on 0.11 => regression..
[07:43] <Tm_T> OdyX: and best place to talk about Kopete related, #kopete ;)
[07:43] <OdyX> Tm_T: thought about it, goin'... Thankd
[07:49] <OdyX> Tm_T: OK. I'm a bad tester => Modules => Cryptography
[07:50] <OdyX> Tm_T: Sorry
[07:52] <Tm_T> =)
[07:52] <Tm_T> it works or what?
[07:55] <OdyX> In fact... not tried yet.. But the module is present..
[07:56] <Tm_T> ok
[08:19] <ubuntu> Hey all. Im writing this from kubuntu flight 6 live cd and I still cant test espresso. Do I have to wait for the beta ?
[08:19] <Pygi> ubuntu: QT port of Espresso is on the way..
[08:20] <ubuntu> ok where can I watch the progress ?
[08:21] <Pygi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEspresso
[08:26] <ubuntu> thanks Pygi
[08:28] <Riddell> ubuntu: why can't you test it?
[08:48] <ubuntu> err i cant find it on the live cd
[08:48] <ubuntu> do i have to download a daily build M
[08:48] <ubuntu> ?
[10:07] <Flosoft> hey
[10:08] <Flosoft> I found a problem in Dapper
[10:08] <Flosoft> I have 2 soundcards .. and it always changes the primary one after a reboot
[11:03] <OdyX> !bug
[11:04] <OdyX> Flosoft: Report the bug => https://www.launchpad.net ...