[12:03] <_static> to view html code and edit or wat?
[12:03] nuky: i think you mean xchm
[12:04] <_static> cananyone make there konversation trasparent like xchat?
[12:04] <_static> i wanna know how i dont see it
[12:05] ah, nah xchm are for the .chm format.. these are .hlp format (WinHelp)
[12:06] hmmm i found a chm version of the same file so it's ok.. but would be curious for future use..
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[12:14] Hello Room
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[12:15] re
[12:15] je disais donc
[12:15] i think the answer is obvious, but i'll ask in case someone has any idea. I just installed a wifi card in my kubuntu, hardware seems detected ok (i get a ra0 wireless interface), but when i issue 'sudo dhclient' just after the client return, my kernel freeze!!
[12:15] Got a newbie question: How do I allow access to /dev/hdc6? I can enable it in kcontrol but I cannot access it from my user account.
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[12:16] hi
[12:16] how can I make KDE _not_ open a window automatically when I plug in a USB Stick?
[12:17] Celeste: edit your fstab deleting the /media/usb line
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[12:18] ninHer_, if I delete this line, I will not be able to find the usb stick on /media/usbdisk any more
[12:19] What package contains the man-pages for C functions, like printf etc.?
[12:20] Sorry, that is C stdlib functions ;>
[12:20] How do I allow access to /media/hdc6 for my user account. Can only access it from root.
[12:21] if you don't need the usb stick, don't plug it in
[12:22] i don't understad why you plug it in but don't need it
[12:22] That's like saying you don't understand why someone fills up his car with car, but then doesn't procede to drive around.
[12:22] *gas
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[12:23] it is a nonsense anyway
[12:23] imho
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[12:25] i've set up very simple apache web server that i can access over a lan but when i type my public ip address into a browser i just get my router setup page
[12:25] i've been trying for a week now and i'm pretty desperate now
[12:26] i'm sure that my problem is my router is not set upt properly
[12:27] simian__: go to /etc/apache2/ports.conf and set replace Listen 127.0.0.1 with Listen 80
[12:27] simian__: you will also have to forward port 80 on your router
[12:28] me2win: ok
[12:28] me2win: i have forwarded port 80 on my router but i havn't touched the ports.conf
[12:28] simian__: ah, yeah sometimes ports .conf isnt configured correctly
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[12:29] me2win: ports.conf says listen 80
[12:30] simian__: k, then make sure you are forwaring 80 to the correct inet addr
[12:30] if your comp is sitting on 192.168.1.100, then you need for forware 80 to .100 if its sitting on .101 then you need to forward 80 to .101
[12:30] if you type ifconfig
[12:30] in a console
[12:30] you should see what your inet addr is
[12:31] for some reason, my apache server doesnt respond unless I am on .100
[12:31] so you may have to get your computer on .100
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[12:32] me2win: on my router i have set up a firewall rule to say that inbound port 80 trafic should always be sent to 192.168.0.3
[12:32] thats probably your problem
[12:32] what inet are you sitting on?
[12:32] simian__: do you also have a static IP with your router?
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[12:34] even with dynamic IP it should work fine
[12:34] as far as i know
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[12:35] Could a bad mouse driver cause KDE to crash?
[12:35] well if he forwards port 80 to 192.168.0.3 he needs to always have that IP adress (internaly)
[12:35] frank23: tr00
[12:35] Word: did you do a dist-upgrade?
[12:35] i think the answer is obvious, but i'll ask in case someone has any idea. I just installed a wifi card in my kubuntu, hardware seems detected ok (i get a ra0 wireless interface), but when i issue 'sudo dhclient' just after the client return, my kernel freeze!!
[12:35] It appears whenever I resize a window or move my mouse to fast through the K Menu or use the mouse wheel to fast through Konquerer it locks up
[12:35] Meaning...? Adept full upgrade?
[12:36] Word: nah, actually typing dist-upgrade
[12:36] Word: that is strange...
[12:36] I lost a machine to a dist-upgrade, as did many people, but I dunno, doesn't sound a symptom of it i suppose
[12:36] a bad dist-upgrade that is
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[12:37] Where do I type dist-upgrade? KTerminal?
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[12:37] Word: dont do one
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[12:37] its only when you want to upgrade the distribution release/files
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[12:37] like when dapper is released
[12:38] Word: like Dasnipa`
[12:38] said*
[12:38] w00t
[12:38] w00t
[12:38] Windows sucks!
[12:38] Xanza: windows rocks.
[12:38] windows has its place... in my trashcan
[12:38] <.<
[12:39] Don't lie to the children!
[12:39] Any idea why a mouse could cause it to freeze?
[12:39] me2win: actually dist-upgrade is needed anytime a newer package wants to uninstall an older one. the synaptic "smart upgrade" is actually a dist-upgrade
[12:39] frank23: ah i see
[12:39] me2win: sorry i got disconeted when playing with my router
[12:39] simian_: any progress?
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[12:40] me2win: no forwarded to 192.168.0.4 and the same thing happens
[12:40] public ip just displays router setup
[12:40] I used to have that error, and all I did was Listen 80 and it worked
[12:41] like I said the only other thing I could imagine is needing to be on .100
[12:41] but im pretty sure thats just something IM missing
[12:41] simian_what is the problem exactly?
[12:41] me2win: i'll try it
[12:41] simian_: tell frank23 your problem first, prehaps he knows a solution
[12:42] frank23: i've set up very simple apache web server that i can access over a lan but when i type my public ip address into a browser i just get my router setup page
[12:42] frank23: i've been trying for a week now and i'm pretty desperate now
[12:42] simian_ what is the public ip adress?
[12:42] 81.155.232.45
[12:43] I get a page
[12:43] bward.co.uk
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[12:43] wow
[12:43] but i can't see it from here
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[12:43] simian_: type localhost
[12:43] see what happens
[12:43] Does anyone know how to get bitpim to work in Linux?
[12:44] simian_I get melissa's photo album
[12:45] thanks guy it was working all along, i just didn't see it
[12:45] lol now i'm embarrased about my crappy pages
[12:45] simian_: lol
[12:45] simian_: I've already forgotten th ip ;)
[12:45] simian_: they're better than some of the offerings on mysapce
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[12:47] hi
[12:48] I just installed the program "kamera" but I cannot start it (command not found)
[12:48] what shall I do?
[12:48] simian_ I just checked and my router behaves the same way.
[12:49] frank23: so chances are my router is set up correctly then?
[12:49] frank23: its odd, i type in my ip and i get the server
[12:49] simian_ just access your webserver via localhost to test it
[12:49] i even have dyndns set up for it
[12:50] that's my next step, i have to assign a name the that ip address, is that simple?
[12:50] How can I upgrade wine from the repositories because it only installs 0.9.9
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[12:51] simian_: try this one http://www.no-ip.com/
[12:51] simian_: or dyndns.org
[12:52] vge: ok thanks
[12:52] simian_: i like dyndns because its built in support for most routers
[12:53] simian_: since you're behind a router it might be a bit harder to do the dyndns updates. because your computer doesn't know what your external ip adress is. some routers can be setup with a dyndns client directly
[12:54] yeah, as soon as my router grabs an internet connetion, it updates with dyndns
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[12:55] ok htanks for the help guys
[12:55] thats 54.99 USD
[12:55] me2win: does it also update it periodically?
[12:56] frank23: it updates if my IP changes at all
[12:56] me2win: but what if it stays the same for a very long time?
[12:57] I have dynamic IP, so everytime my connection resets (usually manually) it will update the IP, if it stays the same, then it stays the same
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[01:09] <_shane> hi i am trying to get a laptop serial port to work, '/proc/tty/driver/serial' has a line in it "0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:0 rx:0 CTS|DSR|CD|RI" does this mean it is reconized?
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[01:12] Does anyone know how to use bitpim
[01:12] ?
[01:13] Hey, you people want to support a little endeavor? I want to try to cause a global switch (Where many people will start switching to linux).
[01:13] What does it entail?
[01:13] How do you plan on accomplishing this?
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[01:14] Alot
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[01:15] First of all Linux needs a wiki that will explain everything in every possible way.
[01:15] Second we need to do some changes to the Ubuntu core, specifically the installation part.
[01:16] I did a little research and there are 3 factors why people do not switch to linux yet: Compatibility, Fear, Knowledge.
[01:16] Very specifically the Partitioner ;)
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[01:16] Word: No
[01:16] hi is there a free c++ compiler for linux or what do i use to comple .h files and code c++?
[01:16] I had a friend over today and the only reason he isn't switching to Linux is that his business relies on a program only available in Windows.
[01:17] This is compatibility, lol.
[01:17] Yup
[01:17] When I installed it was the most annoying and somewhat confusing step Vampire..
[01:17] Yes, it was for me too.
[01:17] THIS is why I suggest a Wiki for ALL things linux.
[01:17] staticunit: if you install the build-essential package, you can compile c++ programs using g++
[01:18] ok does it come with kubuntu i havnt seen it i looked
[01:18] ?
[01:18] <_shane> hi i am trying to get a laptop serial port to work, '/proc/tty/driver/serial' has a line in it "0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:0 rx:0 CTS|DSR|CD|RI" does this mean it is reconized?
[01:18] staticunit, it does.
[01:18] staticunit: you can install it with apt, using: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:18] awesome ok ill browse around ty
[01:18] ty
[01:18] one sec, I'll see if I can find the exact package name...
[01:19] in adept search for build-essential and it will come up.
[01:19] k
[01:20] <_shane> XVampireX: you would need to limit it to one version of linux, then you have the trouble of the thing that change release to release of that version.
[01:20] If you don't see what I mean by the 3 factors: Compatibility - Programs that people got used to on windows can "No longer" be accessed in linux. Fear - Related to Compatibility, the fear of not being able to use linux because it's different. Knowledge - Not knowing that linux exists, not knowing what distro to use and so on.
[01:21] found it
[01:21] _shane: What do you mean by limit it...? Limit what?
[01:21] <_shane> XVampireX: It would be a mamoth wiki and that in itself might deter people changing.
[01:22] Have you seen Microsoft.com?
[01:22] That's what I would call mammoth
[01:23] _shane: No, whenever I research I use wikipedia (Not for everything) which is mammoth in and of itself. And I like it.
[01:23] <_shane> XVampireX: there are too many version of Linux that do things slightly different ways. (e.g. RedHat using yum etc. Debian using apt-get, and others).
[01:23] Yes, this is why I suggest a general linux distro
[01:23] With a package selection during installation
[01:24] And preselected packages in a dropdown menu, selecting packages for specific needs
[01:24] <_shane> XVampireX: I thought that was what Lindose was trying to do.
[01:25] It doesn't do it as good as it was supposed to
[01:25] Lindows is just debian with a fancy synaptic that has commercial software for sale
[01:25] <_shane> XVampireX: so why should yours?
[01:26] Because it would be based on ubuntu
[01:26] And
[01:26] i like the kubuntu update system
[01:26] Compatibility issue could be resolved with a COMPLETE integration of Wine.
[01:27] Instead of having it as a standalone application, integrate it into the kernel or whatever
[01:27] lol
[01:28] <_shane> XVampireX: there are a lot of programs that Wine wont handle, one of the problems is a 95% market share means that a lot of speciality programs aren't considered for anything else.
[01:28] The point is - Make the transition from windows to linux as painless as possible. Keeping in mind the reasons for not switching yet I think it is possible.
[01:28] me2win: dyndns dynamic ip service is free right?
[01:28] _shane: This is why an auto-update menu for all programs would be neccessary
[01:29] It couldn't get less painful, if people would just give it a fair try, windows is painful.
[01:29] So you can switch auto update on and off
[01:29] LeeJunFan: So far, they don't want to get it a try because they fear changing. Since windows is already comfortable for them.
[01:29] i'm just about to create an account but it says:
[01:29] Our basic service offerings are free, but they are supported by
[01:29] our premium services. See http://www.dyndns.com/services/ for a
[01:29] full listing of all of our available services.
[01:29] Not Ctrl-alt-del might be enough to deter a windows user :P I haven't had an OS freeze on me like Kubuntu is (I know it's an isolated issue I just wish it would fix itself) since Win 95
[01:30] No*
[01:30] Yeah, linux never freezes, lol
[01:30] some applications are very unstable though
[01:30] <_shane> XVampireX: It shouldn't be hard to make a front end for apt-get that does that. Maybe you could make one and see if it becomes popular.
[01:30] I think it's my mouse...with no apps open it's fine I think...but then I opened one up and resized it and boom frozen
[01:30] Well I want to do a standalone distro based on Ubuntu
[01:30] then I was just navigating the K menu and boom frozen
[01:31] <_shane> XVampireX: noone is stopping you.
[01:31] Then I want to sell CDs for very little (The money which I will use to work on some other projects of mine that will change the free world)
[01:31] you might not want to make it to heavily based on Ubuntu since some diehard distro fans might not use it just because it's 'based on ubuntu'
[01:32] simian_: yes its free
[01:32] Yeah, so I began asking if anyone would like to support or help out, perhaps forming a company
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[01:32] Depends on how dedicated you are to this
[01:32] Word: We're not talking about distro fans, we're talking about windows fans.
[01:32] Aye
[01:33] I'm quite dedicated, but I don't have the programming skill...
[01:33] there are such things out there XVampireX
[01:33] I can provide with my advices and management
[01:33] hello, I hope someone here can help me... I installed zeroconf on my breezy and now it won't boot. Always hangs on "configuring network interfaces"
[01:33] I know C# Visual Basic PHP Html Javascript and know how to use AJAX...nothing down to the OS though.
[01:33] can I somehow boot it without it trying to configure the network stuff?
[01:34] And I meant Ubuntu core, not ubuntu as in gnome and applications.
[01:34] recovery mode?
[01:34] <_shane> StFS: have you got access to the terminals though -- etc.
[01:35] I'm actually signed up for a summer course at DeVry to learn about the different operating systems don't know how detailed it's going to be though
[01:35] Nice
[01:35] _shane: I can switch between tty's (it's not completely frozen) but there's no login prompt there, so no.. I don't have shell access
[01:35] !bitpim
[01:35] NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kr4t05
[01:35] :/
[01:36] StFS: Can you get into the program through the console?
[01:36] i know c, c++, visual basic, API, most assembly / asm , html ,php,css,java script, actions script ,cryptography,networking, server codering to a full application level and more
[01:36] Does anyone know how to get bitpim to detect my phone? (LG VX3200)
[01:36] If you can, try sudo (application name)
[01:36] SQl too opps
[01:36] I don't know that application though so I can give a little bit of general info
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[01:37] XVampireX: what do you mean? I don't have a shell (console) so I can't do anything without somehow figuring out how to turn off the network and rebooting that way
[01:37] <_shane> StFS: maybe you can do something though the 'recovery mode' boot
[01:37] Vampire...I'll definitely help if you can get my Kubuntu working :P
[01:37] When I try to get it to use a port, it gives me "You do not have any com/serial ports on your system".
[01:37] _shane: that's what I'm hoping but I just can't find how I boot up in "recovery mode"
[01:37] Word: What's your problem with kubuntu?
[01:38] StFS: In the login screen
[01:38] There should be some button with either options or I don't know, look for failsafe
[01:38] I made a post about it http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=4369.0
[01:39] Remember, I'm still a linux newbie myself... Just learning more and more everyday
[01:39] _shane: I know I can press Esc when it's booting... but what boot parameters do I supply and how?
[01:39] <_shane> StFS: it in the initial boot screen done by grub just after turning the computer on.
[01:39] XVampireX: ugh... I don't get the login screen!
[01:39] Meh
[01:39] To skip a step in the loading process you press Ctrl+C if that helps..
[01:39] _shane: yeah... I got that far... just don't know what to do after that
[01:40] <_shane> StFS: I have never had to use it, but I would try it without any parameters first.
[01:40] _shane: I think that just boots it up normally
[01:41] Word: Kubuntu freezes completely or just certain programs?
[01:41] <_shane> StFS: it does put you in single user mode.
[01:41] Completely
[01:41] linux:~$ netcat
[01:41] Nothing moves or reacts to clicks only the mouse can mvoe
[01:41] move*
[01:41] Num lock doesn't go on etc.
[01:42] anyone know wget flags?
[01:42] wow... I got in... let's just hope that removing zeroconf solves whatever it is that was causing this
[01:42] corrupt cd?
[01:42] I have an install.
[01:42] Do you have live cd?
[01:42] Yes
[01:42] Word: I pressed ctrl+c repeatedly when booting and it seems to have gotten me past it... thanks for the tip
[01:43] does it work?
[01:43] It would have problems after awhile so I'd have to say no
[01:43] No problem STFS
[01:43] if live cd works and regular install doesn't than Install didn't go well (Corrupt CD)
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[01:44] Is there a way to check to see if the cd is not-corrupt without re installing it?
[01:44] so live cd is having the same problems?
[01:44] not the same but it's still having problems
[01:44] Same problems with Ubuntu
[01:44] Yeah, boot into the install cd and there should be a integrity check there somewhere
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[01:45] ok
[01:45] It sounds like corrupt cd to tell you the truth
[01:45] ><
[01:45] Vampire do you have Aim/Msn/Yim?
[01:45] yes
[01:46] my msn is my nick at gmail.com
[01:46]