[12:05] _mvo_: yes [12:05] mdke: okay, thanks [12:06] _mvo_: I just want a cd iso === Rotund [n=joe@d1-180.rb2.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:09] _mvo_: you know where I can download one? [12:10] sivang: ISO of what? [12:10] oh, cool [12:10] eh - wrong window ;) [12:10] Pygi: 5.10 [12:11] Pygi: breezy, not DVD. releases.ubuntu.com has only DVD images [12:11] sivang, I believe that is due to the isntaller vuln [12:11] Burgwork: okay, so I better start downloading... [12:11] sivang: uh? http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ ? [12:11] sivang: torrents? [12:12] Mithrandir: I arrived at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ from cdimage.u.c [12:12] Mithrandir: thanks === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _jdong [n=jdong@d192-24-132-154.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crippledcanary [n=crippled@81-224-25-41-o1006.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jcole is now known as jcole_awy === jcole_awy [n=jcole@palrel1.hp.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:37] damn, espresso just failed to install ubuntu :( [12:39] people, wake up...flight 6 doesn't work [12:41] Pygi: how did it fail? [12:42] Pygi: what error messages were there? Can you please file a bug at: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/espresso/+filebug === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] sladen: grub installation failed, and once I fixed it, the system refused to boot at all === Harti [n=Harti@dslb-082-083-210-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:44] sladen: I fixed everything with live cd, but Xserver refuses to load [12:47] good night all! [12:48] night sivang [12:49] bah, nevermind, drop that failing things, etc. [12:49] everyone is sleeping mostly anyway or working :P === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-64-134.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] Does anyone know why I am having trouble linking against code compiled with the libstdc++5 things and gcc-3.3? Is this a bug that I need to file with you guys? [01:01] you should recompile - everything in Ubuntu is compiled with 4.0 which is abi-incompatible with 3.3 [01:03] Well, the whole point is to compile against the 3.3 things. I am trying out pathscale, which is based on 3.3 [01:06] What made me think I might trouble you guys with it was, that dapper provides the 3.3-things, so I guess it should be possible to use it [01:08] Actually, it compiles fine, but fails on referenced in section `.rodata' of seti_boinc-schema_master.o: defined in discarded section [01:08] when linking === shawarma [i=foobar@ubuntu/member/shawarma] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] However, I won't hold it aginst you if you tell me to seek advice elsewhere :-) === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.145.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:13] I'm no C++ expert, but as I understand it it's not possible to do what you want === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:14] Hmm, that's sort of a let-down. Can I ask you some questions in private about this, or are you busy? [01:15] ... and/or not interested :-P [01:20] neither busy nor interested - but I'm off anyway (bedtime) === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4207620.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] Fair enough. Thanks for your time anyway :-) === rgl [i=Rui@217.129.151.190] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] And sleep well === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Aegir [n=richard@d58-105-36-34.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@dslb-082-083-210-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["-] === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hua [n=hua_@222.50.182.221] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:07] does anyone else get a warning dialog between the time they open the theme preference dialog and the time it appears but it goes away automatically? === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port163-222.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yves [n=yves@unaffiliated/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-160-183.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hwyvar [i=Joe@cp106356-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@201.22.15.189.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:43] guys, no Ubuntu april fools joke yet? [02:45] a few [02:45] @#ubuntu-motu: has canonical merged with mandriva/ [02:45] :-D [02:47] I'm waiting for the joke gdm splash like last time. :D [02:49] I've just helped this canonical/mandriva merge joke to spread hehe === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wjb [n=warren@c220-237-176-23.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yves is now known as nictuku === YokoZar [n=scott@c-24-10-31-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@201.22.15.189.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === YokoZar [n=scott@c-24-10-31-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] anyone seen this yet? http://linustorvalds.typepad.com/the_kernel_blog/2006/04/account_created.html sounds like an April's fool joke to me === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:50] no kidding :) === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@c-67-166-206-241.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dark_light [n=dark@20132231153.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dark_light [n=dark@20132231153.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Fui] === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gonffen [i=gonffen@unaffiliated/gonffen] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:11] oh noes nubuntu [04:12] English please on here [04:17] Keybuk: nubuntu is no more [04:17] is that good for you? [04:17] what was nubuntu? === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:17] nubuntu.org [04:17] maybe it's part of this whole conical/mandirva merger? [04:18] this is all a bit off-topic for this channel [04:18] you sure? [04:18] it is related to the development of ubuntu [04:18] or did I get the topic wrong? === Aegir [n=richard@d58-105-36-34.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:19] it doesn't matter too much at this time of night and weekend of course, I guess [04:19] most people are asleep or being forced to spend time with their partners :p [04:20] nubuntu was ubuntu for script kiddies? [04:20] Amaranth: heh, that was my opinion at first glance too :) I thought I'd be more diplomatic though [04:20] lol [04:20] ubuntu is linux for people who don't want to learn it :) [04:21] windows is for people who don't want to learn DOS [04:21] blenders are for people who don't want to use a whisk [04:21] a keyboard is for people who don't want to learn how to flip switches to generate hex codes [04:21] [04:21] windows is for people too stupid to learn dos [04:22] a dog is for life, not just for christmas [04:22] never heard that one before :) [04:22] hehe [04:22] If you're going to be annoying and try to 'r00t' me at least know what you're doing [04:22] lol [04:22] ya I hear ya [04:23] Amaranth: I just set my root password to "god" [04:23] for some reason, kiddies never try that oine [04:23] haha [04:23] that and sex [04:23] yeah, script kiddies never try sex [04:23] it explains a lot about them [04:23] I make all my secure passwords sex [04:23] 'password' works for me [04:24] "...so, would her holiness mind changing her password?" [04:24] wow it's sad when you can actually quote Hackers :\ [04:25] I can quote pretty much any film I've seen, or any book I've read [04:25] you'd think it' [04:25] hi Keybuk [04:25] d be useful at dinner parties, but it usually results in me getting stapped [04:25] stabbed too [04:25] whiprush: heyhey [04:25] lol [04:25] you think bug 37128 is a dupe of 37084? [04:25] Malone bug 37128 in network-manager network-manager-gnome "nm-applet doesnt start" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/37128 [04:26] I've no idea [04:26] I must admit that I've tended to ignore most nm bugs [04:26] It's currently crashing when there are entries in /etc/network/interfaces. [04:26] whiprush: Not entries, entries with extra info in the iface stanza. [04:26] looks the same [04:27] and looks like the bug infinity told me about [04:27] whiprush: (ie: anything more than just "iface eth1 inet dhcp") [04:27] I fixed 95% of my n-m problems by replacing the madwifi in my X40 with an ipw2200. I recommend spending the money. [04:27] infinity: k. [04:27] So should I dupe these reports or .. ? [04:27] yeah if you like [04:27] fix it too :) === infinity figures that if Keybuk doesn't fix it in the next week, he will. [04:28] the firmware needed for the latest ipw2200 driver isn't redistributable, is it? [04:28] Amaranth: No less so than any previous version we've shipped. [04:29] infinity: I've pretty much decided NM isn't getting seeded at this point [04:29] infinity: It sounds like older vesions were ok [04:29] so I'm kinda slacking on bugs in it, and instead looking at better fruit [04:29] yeah [04:29] from this blog i'm reading [04:29] Keybuk: ... To desktop, or do you mean you're removing it from suported? [04:29] *my* patch to disable interfaces was fine [04:29] looks like the upstream functionality isn't [04:29] infinity: leave it in supported, just not in a meta package [04:29] Right, I assumed that's how it would end up. [04:30] (Well, it still seems a good fit for live... [04:30] ) [04:30] Amaranth: And where is this blog? [04:30] yeah, less user configuration to get in the way of [04:30] NM is just *such* a bitch to get going when it's decided to be horrid [04:30] oh, i read it wrong [04:30] the problem is just that it needed new firmware [04:30] requires a degree in advanced fuckery just to get a working machine [04:31] the wpa bugs keep piling up too. [04:31] wpa bugs? [04:31] on NM or suppository? [04:31] on NM I mean [04:31] yeah [04:31] I still can't get it to work [04:32] It worked over here, in testing. [04:32] it's worked for some people [04:32] It works great for some people [04:33] but for me, it just sits in a "yeah, associated, BUT NO CIGAR" state [04:33] I think it's NM being stupid === infinity nods. [04:33] because WPA works perfectly if I just put the appropriate suppository stanzas in /e/n/i [04:33] Well, "it works great for some people" seems to be a good argument for the "ship it, but don't install it by default" state. [04:34] with the changes to wpasuppository itself though, I'm entirely happy for that to be seeded [04:34] want it in the minimal seed [04:34] along with wireless-tools [04:36] Keybuk: a month ago you were kind of against this whole nm .6 thing. And at the time I thought you were crazy. [04:36] I'm still against it [04:36] Now I'm thinking you were probably right [04:37] :o) [04:37] now people assume that dapper will have working gui WPA support and whatnot. [04:37] now you guys are kind of screwed. :-/ [04:37] my experience of NM is not good [04:37] it's some of the worst code I've ever seen [04:37] I really do not like it [04:37] but hey [04:37] it's the second coming apparently [04:37] so I guess we have to ship it [04:38] though, I think those guys from the community working on the problem is a good thing. [04:38] Pity they weren't around like, 2 cycles ago. :-/ [04:42] what ever happened to wifigui or whatever that project was called [04:43] it an ubuntuforums community project thing, written in python [04:44] gtkwifi [04:45] what did it do? [04:45] http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=132677&ssid=18920 [04:46] not dapper material but maybe something to take a look at for dapper+1 === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:46] last release was almost a year ago though :/ [04:46] May 15th, 2005 [04:47] comments like "good job bsoft, works perfectly and is lighter weight the networkmanager" make me interested [04:48] that looks like what NM is trying to solve [04:48] and I don't see how that's addressed the permissions problems [04:48] sure, it has it's own problems [04:49] but it actually seems to work :P === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.5.224.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr0n [i=cn@dsl-165-231-90.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:24] mdz: Was requesting X SWAT membership and then deactivating same an intentional thing? [05:25] infinity: that is the only way for me to add bug contacts right now [05:25] by temporarily joining the team [05:25] Oh, special. === jlje [n=agp@cpe-204-210-33-233.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:51] Kamion: preseed - partitioner is stuck in a loop or something [05:52] http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/temp/Mar31/d/ [06:04] <_TomB> http://ubuntuforums.org/ [06:16] is it trying to be gentoo? [06:17] <_TomB> it's changed again [06:18] purple and green, same as the first time i looked [06:18] hmm, some sort of sick April 1st joke? [06:19] <_TomB> purple and musturdy color for me === Aegir [n=richard@d58-105-36-34.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.213.198] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:16] does anyone here know something about reprepro? === j^_ [n=j@e178004046.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:35] hello [07:35] did you guys see the news, microsoft is buying cannonical! === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:37] <_TomB> lol [07:37] ah ok [07:37] zyga: got a link? 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[10:05] And we don't! [10:05] ubuntuforums.org has powerpuff girls [10:05] TomB|: that's not a pony! [10:06] haha [10:07] hehe [10:10] haha === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cn [i=cn@c1-28-6.wblv.isadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:13] slashdot is pink?! [10:13] UbuntuStudio, a wiki for using Ubuntu Linux for a digital music studio, redirects to FruityLoops.com, a Windows application. [10:13] ... http://www.nubuntu.org/ [10:14] hehe === mark105 [n=nnscript@60-234-132-105.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:15] yeah go canonical go to a suing spree === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:17] What's it with all these sites turning pink and ponyish :) [10:17] Lots of sites seem share the same joke :) [10:18] because its the new trend [10:19] its becoming pretty lame after a few hours though === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] jsgotangco: yeah..it's only funny once.. if at all [10:20] the first one i saw was with /. and it was funny [10:20] but when i saw the forums have strange colors i wasn't that much surprised at all [10:21] there's also the one with planet debian having linus === jlje [n=agp@cpe-204-210-33-233.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.182.221] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr0n [i=cn@dsl-146-223-20.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spoob [n=steve@202-6-153-223.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:45] Is jdub aruond these days? Or is he away overseas? === gouchi [n=Doudou@ASt-Lambert-153-1-45-124.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:07] Mithrandir: I believe you just give ports/daily as the source rather than daily and publish-release will work the rest out for itself [11:07] Mithrandir: oh, and you'll probably need to say ARCHES='hppa ia64 sparc' === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:21] morning all [11:22] Mithrandir: sorry, went to bed early. the cron job is running now, and ubuntu seems to have been synced, working on kubuntu now === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-64-134.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54B29EEC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:57] is flight 6 the daily from yesterday? === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-123-158.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:00] giftnudel: yeah [12:00] thanks [12:00] my download suddenly died [12:00] :/ [12:06] no flight 6 announcement ? or is my mailserver dizzy ? [12:06] ogra: waiting for me [12:06] ah, k [12:07] my mirroring should be done in 15 minutes or so, then it is up to Mithrandir, Kamion or someone else to push out a release [12:07] cdimage is horribly slow to mirror from, otherwise the croned mirror would be done by now [12:07] i didnt want to be pushy :) just noted there is no announcement yet :) [12:08] I meant to be pushy wrt cdimage slowness. ;) [12:11] heh [12:12] Not everyone has more free academic bandwidth than they know what to do with. :P [12:13] infinity: just wait till we have 10G :-) [12:13] torkel, wait until we drop CDs and switch to DVDs :P [12:18] oh, if you install, pay attention that you don't select the wrong partition to be formatted [12:19] (at least for me, it did select the wrong as default ...) [12:19] Hm, isn't cdmirror a hefty little machine? [12:19] main archive is still pretty snappy. [12:19] HiddenWolf: Nothing wrong with the machines, the bandwidth out of the DC is crap. [12:20] infinity: oh, fun. [12:20] (You may think it's great, but you don't have as much of a pipe as maswan does...) [12:20] infinity, I couldn't care less, I have a straight 100mbit line to the isp across the street, which has a mirror. :) [12:21] Living in a converted office building across the street from my isp. ;) [12:22] I was just imagining what the dapper release would do, when we look at the stats from breezy. :) === maskd [n=jake@dsl-203-33-161-234.NSW.netspace.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:24] maswan: yeah, I noticed. No worries. :-) [12:24] Kamion: ok, let's try that, then. :-) [12:25] ogra: the announcement was sent several hours ago, but it needs to be approved. [12:25] ah === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === martink [n=martin@p54B387A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:31] Mithrandir: done [12:32] infinity: you guys should get more mirrors to take the load, and perhaps a mozilla-style bouncer for the images? :) [12:33] maswan: we should, yes. [12:33] Mithrandir: Can it be the "OMG!! Ducklings!" release? ;) [12:34] maswan: haha. Dragonettes if so. [12:34] Mithrandir: any plans in that direction? === Fjodor [n=sune@0x55510b65.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:34] Mithrandir: the site was dead-slow for a week after breezy, imagine what Dapper will do. [12:34] Mithrandir: pfft. the poll on the fridge clearly showed that the dapper drake is a duck. :) [12:34] HiddenWolf: not that I know of. Flight 6, while announced today was released yesterday and is a very real release. [12:34] maswan : It's slow not because of the data centre bandwidth but because one of the cdimage machines has poor disk IO. [12:34] maswan : We plan to upgrade the machine in the next few days. [12:35] Znarl: Ah, ok. Great. [12:35] maswan: that's just the plebe talking. [12:35] Znarl: What kind of new storage are you putting in? [12:35] Znarl: now that we're doing some sort of QoS-ing, would it be possible to put maswan in the "free bandwidth" class? [12:36] Mithrandir: That'd only help network though, not disk [12:36] Mithrandir : We are not yet doing QoS either. [12:36] maswan: true, but I think network is a limiting factor. [12:36] Znarl: we're just limiting bandwidth in total? Or did we stop? [12:38] We've stoped limiting bandwidth. We had to limit before because a flight was released and a number of security updates at the same time. We gave the bandwidth to the security updates and limited the flight. [12:38] ah, ok. [12:39] Znarl: Btw, you guys could go back to dumping more of cdimage releases traffic our way. We don't mind. :) [12:39] There's a fast full mirror of cdimage here : http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/ [12:39] Znarl: ftp.heanet.ie? [12:39] maswan : Yes. [12:39] Znarl: is that triggered by publish-release too? [12:39] uh, sync-mirrors [12:39] sorry. [12:40] Mithrandir : Not setup as a trigger or push mirror yet. [12:40] http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ is a mirror in the US that has flights too. === j^_ is now known as j^ === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] hmm, we didn't do ubuntu-server flight 6. Should we? [12:50] id love to test that [12:51] no harm in it, if you want to [12:51] although post-flight-6 uploads have already started [12:51] it'd be fairly untested, but I don't see why not. [12:51] sure, but that seems to mostly be gui stuff [12:51] installer too [12:51] hm, ok [12:51] should be safeish though [12:52] we do kubuntu ports too? [12:52] I'll just tag it and we can we test it and see if it's good. [12:52] not so far, AFAICR [12:52] 1 15 * * * for-project kubuntu cron.ports_daily; for-project kubuntu cron.ports_daily-live === Kamion stands corrected by his own code. :) [12:54] doesn't seem to be in the tree, though [12:54] also, should we do flight releases of the DVDs? (Next time, that is) [12:55] not so keen on that for bandwidth reasons [12:56] ok [12:56] no objection to people actually starting to *test* the damn things, but ... [12:56] we could just publish the torrents and rsync urls for them? === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:57] s/ and rsync urls/ I think [12:58] s/ and rsync urls// I think (er, yeah, mornings) [12:58] Mithrandir: or just publish the ie location? ;) [12:58] well, you might want to ask the mirror admin first, of course [12:58] maswan: if they're fine with that, we could. Else, it would be a bit harsh. :-) [01:00] we don't have ubuntu-server live images? ;-P [01:01] I think they put that on the main image, but I'm not sure [01:02] server live = debsums, chkrootkit, other forensics === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] jsgotangco: do you want to test before or after I mark ubuntu-server as flight-6? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:15] cdimage preformance should improve shortly. === LinuxJones [n=willy@hlfxns01bbh-142177194081.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@dslb-082-083-235-064.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] there, ubuntu-server flight 6 released too [01:20] Mithrandir: should I mirror those too? [01:20] maswan: I doubt we'll have a ton of interest, but please do feel free. Both ports and ubuntu-server would be nice to have. [01:20] hmm.. I don't have an rsync line for ubuntu-server yet. [01:21] it's just edubuntu with s/edubuntu/ubuntu-server/. [01:22] Mithrandir: Yeah, syncing now. Ports first. [01:22] thanks. [01:23] did you just build ubuntu-server on the spot and release it? :) [01:23] or were there sensible dailies available? [01:24] "If it mkisofss, it's releasable - If it boots, it's perfect"? [01:24] speaking of, I hope you at least rebuilt amd64 ... :) [01:25] Mithrandir: So, 1M/s sync speed, you can guess when it's done [01:28] Kamion: I just built it and released it. [01:29] hello. is the package "wpasupplicant" now per default installed? [01:29] based on the "what could possibly go wrong?" assumption [01:29] ekk [01:29] didnt notice [01:29] i'm grabbing it anyway [01:29] sorry [01:30] jsgotangco: if it's utterly broken, I'm not fussed to do flight-6.0.1 for ubuntu-server. [01:30] no worries at least we'll know [01:32] Mithrandir: cool. [01:32] Harti: it will be in dapper; technical problems with the archive maintenance software mean it isn't quite installed by default yet [01:32] (AFAIK) [01:32] Kamion: ok, thx [01:34] (bug 37156, if you care) [01:34] Malone bug 37156 in launchpad-upload-and-queue "can't change sections or priorities with change-override.py" [Major,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/37156 [01:35] oh, hey, actually it's not blocked on that right now because somebody moved wpasupplicant to standard, so a new ubuntu-meta upload would sort it out [01:35] but we really need to get the above bug sorted because wpasupplicant should be alongside wireless-tools in minimal === ploum [n=Ploum@137-200.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:37] Hello.. [01:37] I think this bug must be adressed before Dapper release : [01:37] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/37579 [01:38] Malone bug 37579 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu doesn't urge enough users to contribute to OpenSource" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [01:39] ploum 2006-04-01 [01:46] nice advocay bug though [01:47] i'd download an ubuntu server to fix that :P === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:53] ploum: is that a april fools joke? === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-64-3-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:55] hm, my network manager is insiting on using /sbin/wpa_supplicant [01:55] not /usr/sbin [01:56] thusly failing on all encrypted networks === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:58] tseng: that is correct - install wpasupplicant from offical repo [01:59] Lure: ah, I knew it had to be that pre stuff [01:59] i checked version on nm only [01:59] tseng: I think even version is the same - remove and install again and it should work [01:59] G0SUB, guess... [01:59] thanks, couldnt find a bug report. [02:00] hm, what happened to the buildds? [02:00] ploum: oh! I am a fool ... I rejected the bug :( === Jobman [n=Jobman@p508E72CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:02] slomo_: looks like they all fell over with socket errors - https://launchpad.net/+builds [02:02] infinity: around? === giftnudel [n=mb@p54B29EEC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:04] where can I file bugs against the live cd? (under which component) === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-245-172.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:05] giftnudel: casper if it's the live CD startup process; if it's a particular application on the live CD, then just file on that application [02:07] cool [02:07] thanks [02:07] than I will write some bug reports [02:08] then [02:09] lol someone from the united nations list picked up the nubuntu joke [02:11] jsgotangco, what is the nubuntu joke ? === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:11] ploum: it's supposed to be a "security tools" version of ubuntu [02:11] G0SUB, any objection that I mark this bug as confirmed for today ? [02:12] er ... nubuntu has been around for a while longer than April 1 === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:12] well, it seems so.. I don't understand where the joke is [02:12] Kamion, yeah but check out the site [02:13] Canonical has asked for nUbuntu to Cease Development [02:13] ah, heh [02:14] how long is it supposed to take gconf2 (2.14.0-1ubuntu1) to set up ? it's 20 minutes so far on a 2GHz amd64 [02:15] Yagisan: gconf2 doesn't compute the answer to the question about life, the universe and everything [02:15] jsgotangco: is that the same guy who thought canonical was going to fund and host his project any day? [02:16] nahhh [02:16] there are two projects called nubuntu, btw [02:16] oh? [02:16] yeah. [02:16] <_ion> azeem: Of course not, that would be rather redundant. [02:16] <_ion> Instead it is computing the question. [02:16] _ion: hi :) [02:16] <_ion> Hi Pygi [02:16] <_ion> What's up? [02:17] jsgotangco: .com and .org [02:17] wait, the nubuntu thing is an april fools? (I saw it on digg hours ago, but was waiting to see what the word from canonical was, but didn't see anything on the lists) [02:17] _ion: nothing, made a joke on forum about nm ;) [02:17] <_ion> pygi: URL please? :-) [02:17] tseng, oh that's him then, doing the joke (.org) === _ion is lazy. [02:17] azeem: it would be nice if it works soon. I'd like to use that box for motu related work [02:17] _ion: sec pls [02:18] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=881226#post881226 [02:18] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=881416#post881416 [02:18] find it somewhere pls [02:18] I'll be back asap ;) [02:18] bpuccio: guess [02:18] Yagisan: is it hung, or does it take up CPU tie? [02:18] time [02:19] <_ion> pygi: Hehe. [02:19] <_ion> Thomann (a company i ordered monitor speakers from) made a nice april fools joke. http://johan.kiviniemi.name/pictures/monitorit/ [02:19] azeem: I think it's hung === ssam [n=ssam@80-41-93-124.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:27] ploum: please go ahead [02:34] _ion: what is the joke in damaged speakers? [02:36] Mithrandir: ports done, doing server now [02:36] _ion: by monday, we need 0.6.2 ;) [02:36] <_ion> g0sub: Well, i ordered non-damaged speakers. :-) [02:36] _ion: bah! [02:37] <_ion> The speakers in the pictures are actually the ones they sent after i returned the ones they sent initially those were faulty. :-D [02:38] agh! [02:38] _ion: the fault was with the courier guys I guess [02:40] <_ion> g0sub: I wouldn't blame the postal service. Thomann had neglected to put some protective styrox over the speakers inside the cardboard box. === Pygi waits for ion_s commented [02:40]