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staalehi. I have this major problem; Im a total newbie to Linux especsially when it comes to Ubuntu. I have installed Cedega (newest version), I got a nVidia Point Of View Geforce 6800 Ultra grapich card, witch should manage Battlefield 2 running on Cedega. But the vesa grapicard drivers where automaticly installed during the debian/ubuntu installer configureing the system. I have now found out i need the nvidia drivers. So i tried to do "sudo12:12
slow-motionn812:12
staaleSomeone... Please?12:13
Tm_Tstaale: oh well12:14
Tm_T!nvidia12:14
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:14
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staaleTm_T: I think you misunderstood me... My problem is that i can't do any "apt-get install" because it says that cedega, wich was the last application installed, is depending on a package.. I dont care about cedega package anymore, cuz cedega works, i forced it to by typing "sudo dpkg -force -i /path/to/cedega...12:16
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staaleTm_T: Do you see my problem here?12:17
Tm_Twell12:17
Tm_Tuse kubuntu.pastebin.com12:17
staalehmm12:17
Tm_Tand paste output of "apt-get upgrade"12:17
Tm_Tsudo of course12:17
staaleTm_T: Im in the command-line, and as i said before, im a total newb, dunno how to paste or even get to pastbin by the commandline...12:18
Tm_Thm12:18
staaleTm_T: As you may understand, im not in kde12:18
Tm_Taaaah12:18
Tm_Tnow I see12:18
staaleIm in x running irssi12:18
Tm_Tirssi <312:18
staaleTm_T: Totaly agree:)12:18
Tm_Tah, norge12:19
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staaleTm_T: yes, you too?12:19
Tm_Tnope, Finland12:19
Tm_Tstaale: ok, I need to know exact error you have12:19
staaleTm_T: Aight, well, im a 15 year old student from norway, so sory for my bad english12:19
Tm_Tno problemo12:20
Tm_Tyour english is just fine12:20
staaleTm_T: It tells me that cedega depends on xlibs.. But for me it makes no sense12:20
staaleTm_T: because I'm not trying to install cedega, im trying to install nvidia-glx...12:21
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Tm_Tyeah, that's why I need to know exact error, "It tells me that cedega depends on xlibs" doesn't tell me much ;)12:21
KyralHehe Lilo is evil12:21
Tm_Tit prolly means cedega isn't installed, because it's missing xlibs package12:22
Tm_TKyral: indeed12:22
staaleTm_T: As you allready know, im in X cuz i did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i chose nv drivers, so kde wont run...12:22
KyralSurely everyone got the PMSG from him :D12:22
Tm_Twell, I got the messages, but those are not PMSG:s12:23
staaleTm_T: Cedega is installed, and working. I know that because ive tested it. Thats why i need nvidia drivers, my game wont run with vesa drivers...12:23
Kyralhmm12:23
Tm_Tstaale: then apt-get shouldn't whine about cedega anymore12:23
Kyralhow am I using 100 less MB of RAM with Arch under the same conditions as Ubuntu...12:23
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Tm_TKyral: because it's not the same12:23
Tm_TKyral: also, how you measure it12:24
KyralTm_T: same way12:24
KyralI used free12:24
staaleTm_T: But it does... Maybe its because i forced it?12:24
Tm_Tstaale: how you forced?12:24
KyralI know, prolly because Arch is only starting the services I need to run the computer :P12:24
Tm_TKyral: and what numbers you were looking from output of free?12:24
staaleTm_T: Cedega whined about xlibs package.. So I did --force install12:24
Kyralthe +/- buffers/cache12:25
Kyralthe one I always look at12:25
staaleand now cedega runs fine..12:25
Tm_TKyral: oh, and you look only the first number there?12:25
Kyralalso I don't have Cedega12:25
Tm_Tstaale: ah, there you go12:25
Kyralerr12:25
KyralDAMN YOU!12:25
KyralI meant to say a DM running12:25
staaleKyral: Please behave..12:25
Kyralstaale: it was in joking12:26
Kyraljeez12:26
Tm_T:)12:26
staaleKyral: okey:P Fine then:)12:26
Tm_Tstaale: he's behaving pretty fine :)12:26
Tm_Tstaale: anyway, forcing is not good, especially when you don't know what you're doing ;)12:26
staaleTm_T: Relaxe. Its me, I haven't slept in about 24 hours12:26
staaleTm_T: Cant do anything about it now, done is done;P12:27
Tm_Tstaale: my advise is to remove cedega, install nvidia drivers, test them, after that installcedega again12:27
staaleTm_T: It must be a way to clean it12:27
staaleTm_T: Okey, I will trie that, thanks for the advice... Bye.12:27
Tm_Tstaale: np12:27
Tm_Twhoo, happy customer <312:28
Tm_TKyral: what's up12:28
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Dasnipa`too expensive12:28
KyralTm_T: I was gonna say "DM" but he put "Cedega" in my mind12:29
Dasnipa`15$ is too expensive?12:29
Dasnipa`crazy12:29
Tm_Tyup, for nothing12:29
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Tm_T;)12:29
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Tm_Tand yeah, too expensive, students have student's budget ;)12:30
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Tm_TKyral: busy?12:31
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fatejudger!samba12:32
uboturumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently12:32
Sinikhi, quick question, I'm trying to install kubuntu using the dvd version, and soon after I choose install to hard disk, I get "/dev/ram/ does not exit, dropping to shell"12:33
Sinikanyone has any suggestions?12:33
SinikI googled it, but I didn't find much12:33
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Tm_Thmm, Breezy?12:33
Sinikyes12:33
Tm_Tok12:33
Tm_TI've heard about that problem before, no idea to fix it though12:34
Tm_TI'd say burn install cd :/12:34
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Sinikok, thanks :)12:34
Tm_Tyou can also keep retrying (hey, we all bang our heads to the wall sometimes)12:35
Tm_T;)12:35
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imr3ohi12:41
imr3ocan i use a video projector attached to my laptop running kubuntu breezy?12:42
imr3ocause i'm having a presentation on monday i don't wanna mess it up by not being able to present it12:43
imr3opressing fn+f4 does make my screen go blank on my fujitsu siemens amilo. does that mean anything?12:43
Tm_Twell...12:44
Tm_Tbest way to make sure it works, is testing12:44
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imr3oTm_T: i would, but the next time i'll be near a projector will be the presentation12:45
Tm_Tthen we all hope it works12:45
imr3oso i'm actually thinking about bringing along my gf's laptop running windows12:45
Tm_TI expect it to work, but nothing's sure12:45
imr3obut i think it should work12:45
imr3oTm_T: i know that :)12:45
imr3oi've googled and couldn't find any complaints12:46
Tm_Tyeah, it _should_ work just fine12:46
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imr3othanks12:47
imr3oit's so great to be back to linux12:48
imr3oi went back to windows for one app. but i couldn't stand it so i'm dualbooting and only using win for the one app12:48
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dualityis there any software for taking screenshots in ubuntu?12:50
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XVampireXHi12:50
dualityhey12:50
XVampireXjust a sec, need to configure colours12:51
_spiritzduality: ksnapshot12:51
My8osduality: there is ksnapshot12:51
dualityk12:51
dualitycant take screens with of the xgl effects12:51
XVampireXOk, I tried enabling translucency but it doesn't work12:53
XVampireXI crashed (Because of thunder)12:53
imr3oduality: there is ksnapshot12:53
XVampireXUhm, and when I got back it said that Composite Manager failed12:54
XVampireXSo what am I supposed to do?12:56
XVampireXCan anyone help?12:57
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cinteranyone have any luck with the BCM4306 wifi b/g adapter?01:00
familyyes here01:01
family:)01:01
familywith ndiswrapper on my turion64 notebook01:02
XVampireXCan anyone help me with translucency?!01:02
ParkotronXVampireX: What exactly did yo try to do to enable it?01:03
XVampireXI went to window settings01:03
XVampireXwindow behavior^01:03
ParkotronOh. OK.01:03
ParkotronWhat kind of video card do you have?01:03
XVampireXBut because of thunder my  computer restarted and when I logged back in it said that composite manager failed01:04
XVampireXGeforce FX 520001:04
ParkotronDid KDE start up fine, just no composite?01:05
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cinterfamily: i used ndiswrapper as well , it reports driver loaded hardware present , but im still not finding in kde's settings01:05
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XVampireXYeah, KDE started fine01:05
ParkotronXVampireX: Do you know how edit your xorg.conf?01:05
XVampireXSomewhat, last time I checked xorg.conf was empty01:06
ParkotronXVampireX: I don't really thinks that's possible. Run "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"01:06
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familycinter: are you using dapper?01:07
cinterdapper?01:07
XVampireXAh, lol, yeah, now it works01:08
familyubuntu dapper?01:08
familykubuntu, sry :)01:08
XVampireXIt's because of linux's case sensitivity01:08
cinterno i believe its breezy badger01:08
familymhhh01:08
XVampireXI meant xorg.conf works01:08
XVampireXSo uhm what am I supposed to do?01:08
ParkotronXVampireX: Find the "Device" section. It should say some stuff about your video card.01:08
familydo you use wep or wpa?01:08
cinterwpa01:09
cinteri hace an open network i can test on01:09
XVampireXIt says stuff about it alright, what now?01:09
cinterhace=have01:09
ParkotronXVampireX: Add a line to that that say 'Option"RenderAccel""true"'01:09
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familyfirst time I got wpa under kubuntu running was with dapper and v. 0.6.1 of knetworkmanager :(01:09
familybut you could try the older networkmanager of course01:10
XVampireXWith all the signs too?01:10
familybut only with wep01:10
family:(01:10
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ParkotronXVampireX: Here, it's way easier to use pastbin. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/63495801:11
lancehey does there an easy way to java chat?01:12
ParkotronXVampireX: Add those to sections to your device section.01:12
XVampireXthanks01:12
XVampireXnow save?01:12
cinterfamily: thanks01:12
XVampireXdo I have to restart X now?01:13
ParkotronXVampireX: Then add this to the very bottom of the file: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/63496301:13
XVampireXalright01:13
lancehey is there an easy way to get java chat to work?01:13
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ParkotronXVampireX: Then save the file. Logout. Restart X. And see what happens.01:13
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XVampireXAlright, thanks, brb01:14
lanceno huh?01:14
Parkotronlance: Sorry, never used java chat.01:15
lancerats and they say linux is easy to use01:15
lancethanx for the responce01:15
Parkotronlance: What is Java Chat anyway?01:16
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lancea app that runs under java01:16
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XVampireXParkotron: It works, thank you!01:17
lanceand  a lot of people can sign in and chat in a room01:17
Parkotronlance: Have you installed Java?01:17
lanceyep01:17
lancemost of all the pakages i found01:18
Parkotronlance: Is it a web applet or a separate application?01:18
lancei used adept01:18
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lancei think it's a applet that needs java librarys01:19
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lancei used winblows and just enable java to get it to work01:20
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XVampireXHey, it treats the panel as window too, I don't need that01:20
Parkotronlance: I'm not really sure what to tell you, you may want to try on ubuntuforums.org.01:21
lancei've had it work with Xandros01:21
ParkotronXVampireX: Whaddaya mean?01:21
XVampireXI mean, it has the translucency effect too01:21
Parkotronlance: Try following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754&highlight=java01:21
lancenice sounds like you've got a good vid card01:21
lancethanx01:21
ParkotronXVampireX: That shouldn't be happening.01:22
ParkotronXVampireX: Are you using the default panel?01:23
kev1ni need lots of assistance to get a Dvico TV tuner card to work on kubuntu01:24
XVampireXUhm, using Crystal theme for it01:24
XVampireXWell, whatever came with it, lol01:24
ParkotronXVampireX: Alright fine. There are some fancy replacements you can install. I was just checking.01:25
XVampireXAh, nevermind, lol01:25
XVampireXI enabled translucency for it too, I forgot that, haha01:25
XVampireXOr wait, I didn't...01:25
ParkotronXVampireX: Turn off the composite with "dcop kwin KWinInterface stopKompmgr".01:26
kev1nanybody able to assist with the TV Tuner card question?01:26
ParkotronXVampireX: Then turn it back on with "dcop kwin KWinInterface startKompmgr".01:26
Parkotronkev1n: I've never played with tuner cards under Linux. Sorry. That's a pretty particular problem, you may want to try the forums.01:27
XVampireXlets see01:27
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kimo_what's the equiv of network manager for kubuntu 101:27
DeeZiDknetworkmanager :)01:28
kev1nPakotro I have a link that will fix iI hope but it may as well as been  written in russian for all it means to me....   http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/01:28
Parkotronkev1n: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99647&highlight=dvico01:28
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kimo_DeeZiD: umm :) no really is there something ?01:29
kev1nthanks Pakotron01:29
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ParkotronXVampireX: Did that help? Composite is pretty bug at this point in time. It helps if you install the latest nVidia driver, though.01:30
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kuzmasteri have downloaded the java.bin file off the sun java website, but how to do i install it01:30
DeeZiDnetwork-manager-kde01:30
kuzmaster???01:31
dualitykuzmaster, do "sudo chmod +x javafile.bin"01:31
dualitythen "./javafile.bin"01:31
XVampireXParkotron: I installed the video drivers few days ago01:31
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kuzmasterdo i need to type in the full directory of the file01:32
DeeZiD@XVampireX: Do you want to use kcompmgr with a NVIDIA card?01:32
kuzmasteror just the file name01:32
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kimo_DeeZiD: I can't find this utility either!01:32
kimo_DeeZiD: I am a newbie on kubuntu01:32
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XVampireXDeeZiD: What do you mean?01:33
JohnFluxHey all01:33
JohnFluxI upgrade to dapper, but now xorg doesn't work.  It says that it failed to load the 'nvidia' module.01:33
DeeZiDI don't suggest you to use composite with a nvidia card01:33
DeeZiDits too unstable01:33
JohnFluxI have the kernel restricted modules01:33
XVampireXWell I fixed my problems01:33
JohnFluxwhat I'm forgetting to do?01:33
JohnFlux!nvidia01:34
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736801:34
Tm_TJohnFlux: reinstall nvidia stuff01:34
JohnFluxTm_T: the kernel restricted modules?01:34
Tm_Teverything01:34
Tm_T;)01:34
JohnFluxTm_T ;001:34
kimo_DeeZiD: is there any form of net manager seriously ?01:35
DeeZiDI only know network-manager01:35
ParkotronXVampireX: Every now and then kompmgr (KDE composite) will act up and start doing funky things. I wrote a script to eailty allow me to turn it off and on.01:35
DeeZiD I use network manager 0.6.1 under kubuntu dapper01:35
DeeZiDand it works pretty well with my broadcom and wpa :)01:36
kimo_DeeZiD: that's not in kubuntu, right01:36
XVampireXParkotron: Where do I get it? Just in case I need it :P01:36
DeeZiDyou can use network-manager with the knetworkmanager applet: sudo apt-get install network-manager-kde01:36
DeeZiDno problem01:36
DeeZiDhere01:36
DeeZiDbut theres another new tool :)01:37
DeeZiDwait01:37
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ParkotronXVampireX: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/63499901:37
kimo_ohh thnx01:37
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XVampireXthanks01:37
ParkotronXVampireX: I use KHotkeys to assign it a keyboard shortcut.01:37
DeeZiDkimo_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37041&PHPSESSID=5063baa6fc12ad1dbbdc5e4a81e0953601:37
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XVampireXoh?01:38
Parkotronkimo_: Wireless networking is one of the things that's getting a lot of work for the next Kubuntu release.01:38
XVampireXDo I need to get this khotkeys program?01:38
XVampireXOr is it already installed in kubuntu01:38
ParkotronXVampireX: No no. You have it already.01:39
kimo_I am on dapper :)01:39
XVampireXWhere is it?01:39
DeeZiDkewl01:39
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ParkotronXVampireX: KControl > Regional and Accessability > Input Actions01:39
XVampireXthanks01:39
XVampireXHow do I add the script?01:42
JohnFluxTm_T ah I'm missing nvidia-glx01:42
Tm_TJohnFlux: what I said01:42
JohnFluxTm_T you said "nvidia stuff" :P01:42
Tm_Tyeah, that's nvidia stuff01:43
ParkotronXVampireX: Save it to a file (I called mine komptoggle) and make it executable. Try running it in a sheel to make sure it works.01:43
XVampireXthanks :)01:44
ParkotronXVampireX: Then under Input Actions, click New Action.01:44
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XVampireXYeah, I think I can figure out how to do it now01:45
ParkotronXVampireX: Name it, choose Action Type: Keyboard Shortcur -> Command URl.01:45
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ParkotronXVampireX: Alright. Ask if you have trouble.01:45
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XVampireXlets see if it works01:47
serkan_calismy dvd-rw is scd0 for kubuntu, why?01:47
serkan_calisit is not scsi i think01:48
XVampireXAh, it opens up kate01:48
XVampireXwith the file01:48
XVampireXoh, lol, nevermind01:49
XVampireXsupposed to do chmod +x01:49
XVampireXworks :)01:50
ParkotronXVampireX: Excellent. Glad I could help.01:51
XVampireXYes, thank you very much :)01:51
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ParkotronXVampireX: Personally I use Input Actions for everything. I'm a bit addicted to the Windows key. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12000101:52
XVampireXlinux is so awesome with its customizeability01:53
XVampireXWith this it can make the life of a gamer so much easier, lol01:53
XVampireXActually, it's easier than windows when you learn all the tricks01:54
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ipfwhttp://freshmeat.net/redir/fox/2819/url_homepage/www.fox-toolkit.com <- anyone else have trouble with the FM site & FireFox-1.0.7 (Ubuntu-Breezy), wanting to Open/Save the link as a File instead of a website ?01:54
XVampireXWOW! Just gave me an awesome idea for a script01:54
ParkotronXVampireX: If you're nerdy enough to figure it out, Linux is better than every other OS on pretty much every front.01:54
XVampireXCan I make a script to launch 2 things one after another in the konsole?01:55
XVampireXsudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade01:55
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ParkotronXVampireX: Yes. Bash scripting can be pretty handy.01:56
ipfwXVampireX:  thats weak ;)01:56
XVampireX:P Need to figure out how to do that script now01:56
ipfwXVampireX:  go read the basic/advanced bash scripting howto's at http://tldp.org01:56
ipfwXVampireX:  command1 && command201:57
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ipfwXVampireX:  that will run the first, and if it completes with no errros, does the next01:57
ParkotronXVampireX: If you have the time, reading through the HOWTO ipfw  recommended is good advice.01:57
XVampireXthank you :)01:58
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Parkotronipfw: That link works here, but I'm running Firefox 1.5.01:58
ipfwParkotron:  dapper ?01:58
ipfwParkotron:  I had 1.5 before I blew my part away by mistake (long story)01:59
Parkotronipfw: Nope, just custom installed in Breezy.01:59
ipfwParkotron:  from source, or by wiki ?01:59
Parkotronipfw: Just downloaded from mozilla.org.02:00
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_deathhello can anyone help me?02:01
ipfw_death:  I doubt it, but we might try02:01
vinboyhi02:01
_deathlol ok02:01
Parkotron_death: Maybe. It's hard to say if we don't know your problem.02:01
_deathits really simple i think im a noob02:01
_deathok02:01
vinboycan i install amarok2.0 via the package manager?02:01
_deathi need to install winetools02:01
ipfwParkotron:  you take a pm from me ?02:01
ipfwvinboy:  sure02:01
DeeZiDamarok 2.0 ? LOL02:02
Tm_TDeeZiD: yes?02:02
_deathi got it dled and everything02:02
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_deathand i have it in a folder02:02
DeeZiDthat was an aprils joke ;)02:02
vinboyipfw: how do I do tat?? bcoz i think the package is not on the server yet?02:02
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Tm_Tvinboy: package of what?02:02
_deathin the konsole how do i change to that directory and execute it02:02
_deaththe install command?02:03
Parkotronipfw: What's this about a pm?02:03
serkan_calisi have two question, 1. i cant enable dma, it gives me the error HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device, 2. mplayer cant use alsa02:03
vinboyTm_T:  amarok2.002:03
ipfwParkotron:  just wanted to know if you mind, if I msg you02:03
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XVampireXYeah, amarok2.0? :O02:04
vinboyyup02:04
vinboyjust released today02:04
vinboyor yesterday02:05
DeeZiDonly a joke ;)02:05
Parkotronipfw: Well, I just started on IRC three weeks ago, so I have no idea how  private messages work.02:05
serkan_calisdoes kubuntu have a forum02:05
_deathi dunno02:06
ipfwParkotron:  not a bit issue, I was just going to tell you how much I hate the term "noob, newbie, n00b" or any incarnation of it02:06
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ipfwserkan_calis:  google.com is your friend02:06
Parkotronserkan_calis: www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/02:06
Parkotronserkan_calis: I prefer the first.02:07
ipfwserkan_calis:  make sure you have alsa 1.0.x or higher for mplayer support, and not every device needs DMA support :)02:07
serkan_calisok it is not dma i know02:07
serkan_calisbtw i googled ipfw02:07
serkan_calisi did a fresh install02:07
Tm_Tvinboy: to say the truth, amaroK 2.0 won't be in repositories until early 2007, if we are lucky02:08
ipfwserkan_calis:  "ipfw" -> Internet Packet FireWall ... Everyone knows that (poor humor joke) *Grin*02:08
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ipfwTm_T:  whats the big deal with amarok anyway ?02:09
kimo_I wanna download something to test my bandwidth .. :)02:09
Tm_Tipfw: amaroK is just more than playe02:09
Tm_Tr02:09
Tm_Tipfw: I love it, some people don't02:09
fuzzymonsterHi, can someone help with unrar multipart files?02:10
fuzzymonsterunrar x filename.rar.00102:11
fuzzymonsterthat's all I know what to do, but get an error message02:11
Parkotronfuzzymonster: What's the error?02:11
ipfwTm_T:  so, what does it do ? its a media player... anything special ?02:11
Parkotronipfw: It has a VERY nice music library system.02:12
Tm_Tit's damn good music centre02:12
XVampireXYes02:12
XVampireXVery memory efficient02:12
vinboyTm_T: oh... tat is bad.... maybe i'll go get the .deb file myself02:12
XVampireXYou could compare amarok to foobar02:13
Tm_Tvinboy: uh, deb package from april fool, good idea ;)02:13
vinboylol02:13
kimo_can wget multi-connect to some server02:13
XVampireXIf you're coming from windows you know what foobar is02:13
vinboyany website teach u how to tune up ubuntu or kubuntu system?02:14
vinboyi think my kubuntu has alot of useless running processes02:14
fuzzymonsterParkotron: Encrypted file:  CRC failed in foster.avi (password incorrect ?)02:14
fuzzymonsterUnexpected end of archive02:14
fuzzymonsterTotal errors: 202:14
XVampireXI just got fooled today once02:14
Parkotronfuzzymonster: The file requires a password. Do you have it?02:14
fuzzymonsteryes02:14
Tm_Tvinboy: define useless02:15
fuzzymonsterI thought maybe it had something to do with being multipart, but I unrar the lowest file number02:15
XVampireXYou know how I got fooled?02:15
Tm_TXVampireX: no, but I expect you to tell me02:16
XVampireXyes, just a sec02:16
Parkotronfuzzymonster: I've had no trouble in the past with multipart encrypted rars.02:16
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XVampireXhttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=119702:16
vinboyTm_T: processes that i dun need ..........02:16
XVampireXI got fooled by that02:16
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Parkotronfuzzymonster: I have had problems with forgetting to captialise specific letters in passwords before.02:17
XVampireXYou can see my comment in the comments area02:17
fuzzymonsterno, it's all lowercase02:17
Tm_Tvinboy: ah, and why you have to get rid of them? lowend system? running out of memory?02:17
XVampireXI'm the one with the fairly long comment though :P02:17
vinboymemory issue02:17
Tm_Tvinboy: ah, tell me more, what kind of memory issue02:18
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XVampireXCheck this out: http://monolith.sourceforge.net/02:19
Parkotronfuzzymonster: My best guess is that the file's become corrupt or something. Sorry I couldn't help.02:19
vinboyi find the system consume about 80% of memory without running memory intensive app02:19
fuzzymonsterParkotron:  Thank you anyway02:19
Tm_Tvinboy: how you measure it?02:19
vinboyhow do I disable window animation during maximizing and minimizing?02:19
vinboyTm_T: the Ksysguard02:20
Tm_Tvinboy: ok, open Konsole and say "free"02:20
Tm_Tvinboy: I get this kind of row: -/+ buffers/cache:     434488     60018002:20
vinboyTm_T: yup...02:20
Tm_Twhat's yours?02:21
Tm_Tand tell me also how much you have ram02:21
vinboy-/+ buffers/cache:     234760     80188802:21
Tm_T:)02:21
vinboyi have 1gb ram02:21
vinboyabout 1.5gb swap02:21
vinboyi would like to see how it goes when i run eclipse02:21
Tm_Tcongrats, you are using 230 M ram and rest is just buffers and cache02:21
vinboy:D02:21
Tm_Tyeah, only 23002:22
Tm_Tso no worries, pal02:22
vinboyoh ic02:22
Tm_T;)02:22
vinboyso 230 is the system?02:22
vinboyhm....... i dun have alot of programs running though02:22
Tm_Tsystem and all programs02:22
vinboyic02:22
vinboythanks Tm_T02:23
Tm_Trest is just using empty mem02:23
Tm_Tnp :)02:23
vinboyi'm new to linux :)02:23
Tm_Theh02:23
Tm_Tyou know, even I can't get my 1 G ram full02:23
Tm_Tand I'm heavy user02:23
vinboygood on u02:24
vinboyi'm a java developer02:24
vinboyi constant run big java IDE02:24
SinikYou could always switch to windows for a bit, and put that lazy unused ram to work :P02:24
vinboyhope it won't kill my linux02:24
vinboyhehehee02:24
vinboywindows' ram management is good i think02:24
Tm_Tit's far from good =)02:25
vinboyok how do I disable animation during maximizing and minimizing?02:25
vinboyi bet u ppl know it....02:25
ParkotronI put two gigs into my computer when I bought it. Just after that I switched to Linux. My swap partition hasn't been touched since. If I'd only know, I could have saved some money.02:25
Tm_Tvinboy: run kcontrol02:25
Tm_Tvinboy: it's all there02:25
Tm_Tvinboy: if you can't find it, poke me and I'll tell you ;)02:26
vinboywow02:26
vinboynice02:26
vinboyitis weird that it doesn't put kcontrol in my menu02:26
Tm_Tyeah, it's "replaced" by systemsettings02:26
vinboyic02:27
vinboyOK02:27
ParkotronIs any one else running KDE 3.5.2?02:27
Tm_Talt-F2 gives rundialog, use it ;)02:27
vinboyI GOT IT!!!02:27
vinboythanks much Tm_T02:27
Tm_TParkotron: yeah02:27
Tm_Tvinboy: np02:27
vinboykcontrol is handy02:27
Sergi0Parkotron: yup02:27
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Tm_Tvinboy: it's good, powerful, but some people find it "messy"02:28
vinboyit is simple and powerful02:28
ParkotronTm_T & Sergi0 : Can you guys duplicate a file in Konqueror by copying it to it's original directory?02:28
Tallia1Kubuntusomeone here can use tightvnc?02:29
ParkotronUnder 3.5.1 doing this told me there was a filename conflict and gave me the opportunity to rename it. Under 3.5.2 it just gives me an error.02:29
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: I have vnc running, why?02:30
Sergi0Parkotron: i get that message now02:30
ParkotronSergi0: Which, the rename dialog or the error?02:30
Sergi0Parkotron: :P the rename dialog :)02:31
Tallia1KubuntuParkotron: what do you use to startup it? i can't give to the server command the X:0 window server because it is useb by another process(kde)02:31
Tallia1KubuntuParkotron: and if i try to use :1 and in the client i use the same.. i get only a grey X window...02:31
ParkotronSergi0: Well damn, that means the problems with my setup. Thanks.02:31
Tallia1KubuntuParkotron: how can i see my KDE currently running screen?02:31
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: KDE comes with a built in VNC server. If you don't have specific needs use it.02:32
Tallia1Kubuntui know02:32
Tallia1Kubuntui already use it02:32
Tallia1Kubuntubut i want something that is runnable from terminal02:32
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Oh. Then try x11vnc. It's designed to share you're current screen.02:33
Tallia1Kubuntuisn't possible to use tightvnc?02:33
Tm_TParkotron: yeah, it should be fixed though02:33
Tallia1Kubuntusince it says it is a FAST way of transiming data02:33
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noiesmohello all, When I restart my computer after it has been turned off my screen resolution is 640x480 after a couple of kill x gdm and reboots it goes back to 1024x768 resolution. any suggestions to help with this problem?02:34
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: x11vnc supports the full tightvnc protocol.02:34
Tallia1Kubuntui see02:34
Tm_TParkotron: yup, fixed02:34
Tallia1Kubuntuok i will try it now02:34
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: It has a boatload of options, so I'd almost guarentee that you can make it suit your exact needs.02:34
Tm_TParkotron: upgrade and restart kde (fixed in dapper atleast)02:35
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Tallia1KubuntuI fixed the problem with the gray vnc screen and x cursor by going to Login Screen Setup->Security->Enable XDMCP. <--- WHAT is this?02:36
Tallia1KubuntuXDMCP?02:36
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Tallia1Kubuntuthis is for tightvnc02:36
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ParkotronTm_T: Thanks, I'm on Breezy. I have a test Dapper installation, though. I'll check for updates to Breezy tough.02:36
McScrufflo all02:36
kev1nMcScruff: Lo02:37
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Are you trying to vnc to a headless box?02:37
Tallia1Kubuntuno02:37
Tallia1Kubuntuit's my laptop02:37
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ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: XDMCP = X (window) Display Manager Control Protocol02:39
McScruffwhy the fook did dell put broadcom chipsets in this lappy!!!!!! i need to do my updates but noooooooooooooo i cant coz i cant get online to get the windows driver!!! im havin to use windows!!02:39
Tallia1Kubuntuthat was for ubuntu02:39
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i enable it for kubuntu02:39
XVampireXAre there any viruses for linux at all?02:41
McScruffyes02:42
Tallia1Kubuntuvery few02:42
ParkotronTm_T: No go. There aren't any updates for the Breezy KDE3.5.2 packages. Thanks anyway.02:42
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: What exactly are you trying to set up with your VNC?02:43
Tallia1Kubuntusee my current kde desktop02:43
Tallia1Kubuntuthat should be X:002:43
connhi, how do I reconfigure the system handling of time? I chose in the installer UTC time, but it keeps setting my time an hour ahead, how do I reconfigure on a running system?02:43
Tallia1Kubuntubut i can't create a vnc on X:002:43
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Are you trying to do this automatically on startup?02:44
Tallia1Kubuntunope02:45
Tallia1Kubuntufrom a terminal inside kde02:45
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Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7VNHqO42.html02:45
Daemon_roxalguem sabe a senha do root no kubuntu?02:46
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: I'm pretty sure the the standard vnc and tightvnc server can only create new screens. They can't share you're current one.02:46
Tallia1Kubuntuoo02:47
Tallia1Kubuntui see02:47
Tm_TParkotron: then wait upgrade ;)02:47
murph2481tried download Amarok 1.4 beta2 and still cannot play MP3's back :(02:47
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Sharing the current screen is x11vnc's specialty.02:47
Tallia1Kubuntuok, in this case i will try the one you told me before02:47
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Tallia1KubuntuTm_T: i tried to install the new kopete that you give me yesterday (very nice :) ) but now i have a broken package because dependancies are not up to date02:48
Tallia1Kubuntuparticularly i got:02:48
murph2481!amarok02:48
ubotu[amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/02:48
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: what?02:48
Tm_Twhat dependencies02:48
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/PBHwl445.html02:49
Tallia1Kubuntulook there02:49
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: ...youre running dapper?02:49
Tallia1Kubuntunope02:49
Tm_Texactly02:50
Tallia1Kubuntudo you suggest me to upgrade? is it safe?02:50
Tm_Tit's pretty safe02:50
Tallia1Kubuntuok02:50
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Tallia1Kubuntucan you give me the new reps?02:50
Tm_Twell, sure02:50
Tm_T!upgrade02:50
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.02:50
Tm_T:)02:51
Tallia1Kubunturemember it may break??02:51
Tm_Tyes02:51
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to come back in case of problems?02:51
Tallia1Kubuntui have only this linux machine :(02:51
Tm_Twell, if there's something broken, it will be fixed asap02:51
Tallia1Kubuntuoooo :=02:51
Tallia1Kubuntui thaught broken like.. you will not boot anymore02:52
Tm_Thehe02:52
Tm_Tnot anymore02:52
murph2481i have been using dapper for a while02:52
murph2481with little to no issues02:52
murph2481anyone good with Amarok?02:52
Tallia1Kubuntulittle?02:52
Tm_TI've been using about 5-6 months dapper02:52
murph2481yea i had some CUPS issues02:52
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murph2481and some stability issues02:52
Tm_Tmurph2481: amaroK <302:52
Tallia1Kubuntuoo02:52
murph2481nothing major02:52
Parkotronmurph2481: What player engine are you using?02:53
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat is <3 ??02:53
Tm_Theart02:53
murph2481amarok 1.4 beta2 with xine02:53
Tallia1Kubuntuooo02:53
Tallia1Kubuntu:)02:53
Tallia1Kubuntuok, i will try dapper02:53
DeeZiDdapper works great here02:53
DeeZiDexcept the problems with cups02:53
Tm_TI don't have cups, no manboobs here02:54
murph2481cups is a huge pain in the ass02:54
DeeZiDand Xgl works great too =)02:54
Tm_TXgl is waste of time imo =)02:54
Tm_Toh well, some people like02:54
DeeZiDIt works on any other distro without problems here ;)02:54
murph2481haven't added XGL as I cannot find a big use for it02:54
Tm_Tto me it's just annoyance02:54
Tm_Tmurph2481: yup, I rather compile KDE4 stuff like now02:55
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fatejudger!dma02:55
dyrnesome of us need to justify our $300 graphics cards02:55
ParkotronXGL is fun to play with, but really not as big a deal as many make it out to be. It's the reason a have a separate Dapper testing installation.02:55
Tm_Theh02:55
XVampireXHey, for all you people wanting to know a little secret in Konqueror web browser you should press ctrl while you're on some website02:56
Tallia1Kubuntumhh02:56
ParkotronEvery few weeks I boot into it, upgrade to the latest XGL stuff, play around, and reboot into Breezy.02:56
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Tallia1Kubuntueheh: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/V6z7vI95.html02:56
XVampireXTm_T: I only got 256mb ram so don't complain02:56
murph2481thats what the swap is for :)02:56
XVampireX:P02:57
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Tm_TXVampireX: 1G here but I could easily use 302:57
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XVampireXTm_T: You don't need that much02:57
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: then just uncomment all non-ubuntu repositories and change ubuntu ones from breezy to dapper02:57
Tm_TXVampireX: because...02:57
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XVampireXTm_T: Because that's too much.02:58
Tm_Tyeah, 1G ram and 1.5G swapfully used and 0.2fps, not good02:58
murph2481alright anyone good with KMAIL?02:58
pastrynessim using ubuntu, how do i get kde to work on it? in the sessions tab at login, i dont have a choice to use kde... ?02:58
XVampireXI do pretty much fine with just 25602:58
Tm_TXVampireX: it's not02:58
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Tm_Tpastryness: and kde is installed?02:58
XVampireXTm_T: Install video drivers02:58
pastrynessthats what i wanna know, how to install it02:59
murph2481pastryness check out: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#installfromubuntu02:59
XVampireXOr who's having the 0.2fps stuff?02:59
Tm_TXVampireX: installed, doesn't help when you have to handle few gigs of textures02:59
murph2481for all my video i just downloaded VLC02:59
murph2481and i can view all videos02:59
XVampireXWhy so much?02:59
Tm_Tmurph2481: Kmail too03:00
XVampireX:P03:00
Tm_TXVampireX: because I have to03:00
Tm_T...if I don't wan't to look blurry textures03:00
murph2481Tm_T i just reinstall dapper, long story, anywho i saved the maildir with all my emails i cannot get kmail to recoginze it03:00
Tm_Tmurph2481: hmm, sounds interesting03:00
Tm_Tmurph2481: import?03:01
murph2481Tm_T: if i move the saved folder to the /~Mail directory it shows up in kmail but when i open the email it is blank :(03:01
murph2481import is never available it is always disabled??03:01
Tm_Tsounds bad03:01
Tm_Tno idea03:01
Tm_TI compile KMail myself03:01
murph2481hmmm ill keep trying03:01
Tm_TXVampireX: you can test it too, install newest Celestia, download some accurate textures to earth, get some flyby... wheeee03:02
Tm_TXVampireX: it could easily hog over 2G of ram03:03
XVampireXCelestia?03:03
Tm_Tyup03:03
Tallia1Kubuntuwhy the upgrade to dapper remove OpenOffice2???03:03
XVampireXThat's pretty :P03:03
XVampireXI'll get celestia sometime03:04
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: because... just go on and check it after upgrade03:04
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Tallia1Kubuntu.....?03:04
ParkotronCan anyone here tell Spanish from Portugese from Italian from ... ?03:04
Tallia1Kubuntuye03:04
Tallia1Kubuntuii can03:05
Parkotron"Sempre discordamos. Vamos mudar de assunto."03:05
Tallia1KubuntuSempre..03:05
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: well, openoffice2 packages are replaced by openoffice packages03:05
Tallia1Kubuntuin spanish is siempre03:05
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: youget same stuff, different packagenames03:05
Tallia1Kubuntuso i suppose i portoguese03:05
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Thanks.03:05
Tallia1Kubuntu:)03:05
Tallia1Kubuntuanyway, absolutely not italian :)03:06
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Babelfish agrees with you. It's Portugese. Thanks.03:07
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhere would you put a passfile in your system?03:11
Tallia1Kubuntui have to create a passfile for vnc but i dunno a good place where to put is..03:11
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ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Like a VNC password file?03:12
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a standard one?03:12
Tallia1Kubuntuyes03:12
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Mine's in ~/.vncpass03:12
ParkotronI don't think there's astandard for that.03:12
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Tallia1Kubuntuwow.. i was going in infinite loop of VNC03:14
Tallia1Kubuntu:)03:14
Tallia1Kubuntuseeing a window inside the other.:)03:14
Tallia1Kubuntuit works anyway so thanks a lots03:14
Tallia1Kubuntu!x11vnc03:14
ParkotronI've done that before. If you want to make it even scarier, apply a scale to it.03:15
Tallia1Kubuntuscale?03:16
Tallia1Kubuntuhowever..03:16
Tallia1Kubuntuanother question..03:16
Parkotronhttp://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/recurse_x11vnc.jpg03:16
Tallia1Kubuntumy font in kde is disgusting.. i can't see the difference between dot and comma...03:17
Tallia1Kubuntucan you suggest me a good one? i am on a laptop tft screen :)03:17
seth|lappyTallia1Kubuntu, I suggest the Bitstream series03:17
Tallia1Kubuntuok, let me try03:18
ParkotronI'm assuming your using Deja Vu? I like it a lot, but you're right, there's only a single pixels difference between commas and periods.03:18
Tallia1Kubuntui have for03:18
Tallia1KubuntuDeja Vu?03:18
Tallia1Kubuntuno Sans Serif03:18
Tallia1KubuntuSans Serif 1103:18
ParkotronDeja Vu is the default. It's just an opensource version of the Bitstream series.03:19
Tallia1Kubuntuthere are 4 bitstream03:19
Tallia1Kubuntuwhich one do you suggest me?03:19
XVampireXParkotron: Is it also possible to automate tasks through time?03:19
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: There names should be obvious. You probably don't want serifs or monospacing. So go with sans.03:20
ParkotronXVampireX: You mean have a script run at a set interval?03:20
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat does those names means?03:20
XVampireXparkotron, yes03:20
ipfwParkotron:  whats the proper way to make my system use the new ff1.5.0.1 instead of the default 1.0.7-ubuntu ?03:20
ParkotronWow! Everyone's talking to me at once!03:20
ipfwParkotron:  just put /opt/firefox/ higher in the path, is that good enough ?03:20
XVampireX:P03:21
ParkotronIt's almost like I'm popular.03:21
ipfwParkotron:  your popular03:21
XVampireXYou're helpful :P03:21
ipfwParkotron:  tell you what, I'll answer a few questions, and you answer mine ;)03:21
ipfwok Parkotron people, I'm now taking Parkotron style questions for the next 10min :P03:21
Tallia1KubuntuBItstream Vera Serif :)03:22
ipfwXVampireX:  you're still around, shouldn't you be reading _something_ ?03:22
XVampireX:P03:22
XVampireXReading what?03:22
ParkotronXVampireX: I think you want to use cron for that, but I don't know anything about it.03:22
ipfwXVampireX:  I don't know, maybe those bash/shell programming howto's at tldp ?03:22
XVampireXAh, you mean bash stuff03:22
XVampireXAh, yeah, Kron! That's what I needed :) lol03:23
XVampireXYeah, I'll check it out I bookmarked it03:23
ipfwXVampireX:  cron will run events over and over at certain times/intervals, "at" will run them one time, at a given time03:23
ipfwXVampireX:  just telling you, it answers most of these questions03:23
XVampireXat?03:23
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Serif fonts have extra little lines one them that make them look fancier. For example Times New Roman is a serif font. Arial is a sans serif font.03:23
Tallia1Kubuntusans?03:24
XVampireXWhat do you mean by "at"?03:24
ipfwXVampireX:  yes, "man at" && "man cron" && "man crontab"03:24
ipfwXVampireX:  oh, and "man bash" for that matter !03:24
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: In a monospace font each character is the same width, so characters line up well in columns. It's what's used in text editors.03:25
XVampireXIs that some utility or a shell command?03:25
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: Sans is latin for without, it I remember correctly03:25
ipfwParkotron:  anyway, did you update the kde links to firefox with properties by hand, or just put the new firefox dir higher in your path ?03:25
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: I guess I figure someone who reads Spanish would recognise the word.03:25
Parkotronipfw: Sorry, I'm looking for a good howto to give you.03:26
ipfwXVampireX:  man, is a command to display manpages (manual pages), if you run "man" on the things I gave, it will explain what they are, and how they work03:26
Tallia1KubuntuParkotron: ? that phrase is a bit messy03:26
XVampireXOh, thanks.03:26
ipfwParkotron:  honestly, I don't need a howto, I have the ff working, I just want to know what route you took ... a overview, doesn't have to be wordy either :)03:26
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Parkotronipfw: I think I just linked /usr/bin/firefox to the new version.03:27
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat's the structure  of a good password?03:27
ipfwParkotron:  in fact, I might just grep the .kde for "firefox", and have a sed/grep/blah replace doen to /opt/firefox/firefox03:27
Tallia1Kubuntui need a new one.. and i have to create it now03:27
ipfwParkotron:  crap, that would be a _much_ easier approach :P03:28
ipfw<- doesn't apply KISS03:28
Tm_Taaaah03:28
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat's the structure of a good password?03:30
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: There's a program called pwgen in the repositories that's suppose to generate good passwords for you.03:31
Tallia1KubuntuParkotron: again a fast and good answer :)03:31
Tallia1Kubuntui like those !! :)03:32
seth|lappyTallia1Kubuntu, http://www.sethkinast.com/files/strength-o-meter/ will perform some simple checks to see how good your password is :P03:32
ipfwParkotron:  I did a backup of /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox (tarBall), and then mv'd it to .ubuntu && cp -Rvfp'd /opt/firefox ./mozilla-firefox to bring in the new one, it worked... so it seems... Thanks for the advice03:32
Tallia1Kubuntui love this channel :)03:32
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: I've never used pwgen. Could you give us an example? (Preferably not the one you plan to use for your vnc server.)03:33
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Tallia1KubuntuZechei4T03:33
Tallia1KubuntuBaekor5D03:33
Tallia1Kubuntui like them...... because they are readable :)03:34
ParkotronThat's why a reccomended it. It said it generated pronouncable passwords.03:34
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  Military has a Reg for passwords, it wants you to use at least 9 characters, 2 Caps, 2 Special chars, 2 Numbers .. Something like &Teh*Crash$03:35
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  not saying thats the best, just one guide03:35
seth|lappyReally you should just use 3 out of the 4 charsets: lowercase, uppercase, numbers, punctuation03:36
ipfwI personally like pass phrases03:36
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seth|lappythat + >= 7 letters will give you a practically unbeatable password03:36
seth|lappyI like taking a word and turning it into 133703:36
ipfwseth|lappy:  yeah, I forgot my punctuation03:36
ParkotronPersonally, I just like to used misspelled dictionary words. I know it's not the most secure, but I don't have major security worries.03:36
seth|lappyso like, sup3rp4$$w0rd!03:36
seth|lappyI find those to be the easiest to remember for me03:37
ipfwseth|lappy:  naw, 133+ passwords are common cracks03:37
seth|lappynot if you inconsistently 1337 it :P03:37
seth|lappysup3r vs. s00p3r, etc.03:37
ipfwawww03:37
seth|lappybut again, none of us has governmental secrets I bet03:37
seth|lappyhehe03:37
ipfwseth|lappy:  I have a few, fairly well kept ;)03:38
Tallia1Kubuntuipfw: yes but they take half an hour to type it :)03:39
ipfwthe secret to keeping them safe, external drives, normally umounted, cyrpted files, nonstandard compression, nonstandard fs, and wild dir structure03:39
Tallia1Kubuntuipfw: keeping what?03:39
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  If I told you, it wouldn't be a secret -- Now would it !03:40
ipfwgeez !03:40
ipfw<- rotflmao03:40
kev1nLOL03:40
Tallia1Kubuntu? sorry i lose the point of the discussion,... i was at the washroom03:40
Tallia1Kubuntu:)03:40
kev1npasswords were the the point of the discussion03:41
ipfwyeah, I just tacked on general security03:41
Tallia1Kubuntu:)03:42
ipfwbest way to safeguard data is to keep it far away from Net access, and physically locked up, of possible03:42
ipfwsuch as my external drives, I only physically hook them up, and use them when I need to, and I unplug the cat5 before they get mounted03:43
ipfwof course, I don't handle _all_ my data that way, just important stuff03:43
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Tallia1Kubuntuanybody wrote a script for starting x11vnc at boot?03:46
Tallia1Kubuntuand for tunneling in ssh too .. :)?03:46
ParkotronTallia1Kubuntu: That's beyond my realm of knowledge.03:49
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ParkotronThis has to be, by far, my favourite of all the April Fool's jokes: www.google.com/romance04:01
ipfwParkotron:  yeah, it is a good one04:02
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  its waiting for you to write it... to easy :)04:02
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glickscuse me does anyone here use audacity?04:08
glickim trying to racord something but when i mess up and press stop04:08
glickand then try to over record it records it all slow and stupid04:08
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ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  let me guess, you want me to write one for you ? *Grin*04:09
Dannycan anyone help me make my user account have root privlages?04:09
Dannyso that I can set up my wireless connection04:09
Dannyetc04:09
ipfwDanny:  I could ... can you tell me why you need/want one ?04:09
Dannyso I can add users, set up my wireless connection, edit system settings04:09
Tallia1KubuntuDanny: sudo command .........04:10
ipfwDanny:  ok... just let me get this straight, you want to activate the root user account, so you can "be root" instead of having to sudo everything ?04:10
Dannywhen I access the system settings04:10
Dannyand click on "Users..."04:10
Dannyand click on "Admin Mode"04:11
Dannyit gives me an error04:11
Dannyso basically yes04:11
ipfwDanny:  "sudo su" <password> && passwd         ............. will run su with sudo, su to root, and the passwd command will set a root pass, to activate root, but even doing all that doesn't mean your apps will run as root when under X as a user, and other complications04:12
Tallia1Kubuntuinstead of changin admin mode inside it04:12
Tallia1Kubuntujust do "sudo kcontrol" and type the password04:12
Tallia1Kubuntuor do "kdesu kcontrol"04:12
ipfwDanny:  Tallia1Kubuntu has a better idea, try sudo <appName> first to see if that works04:12
Tallia1Kubuntui had the same problem in hoary04:12
ipfwDanny:  because chances are, what I displayed will only help you to root around in consoles (CLI commands)04:13
Tallia1Kubuntuwhen i changed to admin mode dynamically ..... it never worked and it always bring me to the option subdirectory description04:13
Dannyok thanks04:13
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  cool to see your answering questions too :)04:14
Dannyso...I do..(In a terminal..?) sudo kcontrol?04:14
Dannyand root pass?04:14
Dannyand that should let me have admin privs for it?04:14
Sergi0Danny: yes04:14
Dannyok thanks04:14
ipfwDanny:  from a xterm I think it would be sudo <app> privUserPass04:14
DannyI'll be back in a bit and tell you if it worked04:15
Tallia1Kubuntuipfw: i always do when i can answer :)04:15
ipfwmight be rootPass though04:15
ipfwDanny:  I'm not sudo savy04:15
Tallia1Kubuntuhowver.. somebody can tell me what's gam_server? it's using 400MB of ram04:15
Dannyor "sudo kcontrol (rootpass)password04:15
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  sounds like some gnome pile of crap to me ... Kill it and see what goes down :P04:15
ipfwDanny:  just keep stabbing at it, until it works ! :)04:16
Tallia1Kubuntuyep... i'd like to know why it was running04:16
Dannyok thanks04:16
Dannybbiab04:16
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  some crappy program linked to crappy gnomelibs probably ran its 400Meg lib !04:16
Nomad411!gam_server04:17
ubotuNomad411: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:17
Tallia1Kubuntuthe only active gnome program is synaptics04:17
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  these stupid hundred meg desktop lib deps are getting on my nerves04:17
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  probably it, I know synaptics requires gnomelibs04:17
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  some reason people can't just use glib/gtk these days :P04:17
Tallia1Kubuntui tried to compile them once04:18
Tallia1Kubuntui haven't been lucky..04:18
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  compile what ?04:18
Tallia1Kubuntugtk+04:18
Tallia1Kubuntuto get audacity working04:18
ipfwumm, you make that sound hard :)04:18
Tallia1Kubuntuyep04:18
Tallia1Kubuntui had very hard time04:18
Tallia1Kubuntuand i gave up in the end04:19
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  actually though, there is a glib-dev gtk+-dev to provide the libs, I'm sure04:19
Tallia1Kubuntui needed the last lib version04:19
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  so, you want to make this program work ?04:19
ipfwTallia1Kubuntu:  hop to #unbuntu-offtopic04:20
ipfwthat might as well be my primary channel :P04:20
Tallia1Kubuntunaa04:20
Tallia1Kubuntui am using music studios in my university theater04:20
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Tallia1Kubuntui will wait for a working debian package04:20
ipfwumm, ok.. whatever that is04:20
ipfwI've ran slack for years, so building software is something I can normally do in my sleep04:21
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xanzaAnyone able to lend me some help? Newbie to Kubuntu.04:29
dualitysure04:30
dualityill try04:30
xanzaI just used Adept and downloaded A bittorrent program, and now i cant find out how to use it.04:30
xanzalol04:30
xanzaIve allready tried typeing its name into the Konsole, and looking for it under the Startmenue thingy.04:30
dualitydo you need software for bittorrents?04:31
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xanzaNope, i got the GUI one.04:31
dualitywhat bittorrent program were you reffering to?04:32
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xanzaBittornado04:32
xanzalol04:33
dualitystrange04:34
dualityits not there after install =S04:34
dualitysry i dont know04:34
xanzalol yea i noticed. :P04:35
xanzalol04:35
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xanzathanks anyways. :D04:35
DannyIt didn't work..:(04:35
Dannyi got this error:04:35
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Dannysudo: unable to lookup dknoppix via gethostbyname()04:35
xanzaOh, your on KNOPPIX. lol.04:36
Dannyno04:36
Dannythats my username elsewhere04:36
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DannyI'm on kubuntu04:36
xanzalol oh04:36
xanzaxD04:36
Sergi0:)04:36
Dannylol04:36
dualitylol04:36
xanzalike i said, linux newb. :P04:37
Dannylol04:37
xanzalol!04:38
xanzaOh its GUI, dont i have to log out or something?04:38
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Dannyso, any ideas?04:41
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Dannyipfw?04:42
DannyTallia1Kubuntu?04:42
Tallia1Kubuntuyes04:42
Dannyany ideas?04:42
Tallia1Kubuntuon what?04:42
Dannywhy it isn't working04:42
Dannyand the error?04:42
Tallia1Kubuntuthe thing is said you before?04:43
Dannyyes04:43
ipfwDanny:  whats the issue ?04:43
Danny[09:35:35]  <Danny> sudo: unable to lookup dknoppix via gethostbyname()04:43
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Tallia1Kubuntuosshat04:43
Tallia1Kubuntudunno what's that04:43
DannyI tried sudo kcontrol04:43
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Sergi0Danny: do u have other users on your system?04:45
danahatatest04:46
Dannyno04:47
Sergi0Danny: did you cange your hostname?04:48
Dannyi dunno04:48
Dannyi just made my hostname dknoppix04:48
Sergi0check /etc/hosts04:48
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Dannylooking atm04:50
Danny127.0.0.1 localhost04:51
Dannyhow bout hostname?04:51
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Sergi0make the line like this '127.0.0.1 localhost dknoppix'04:52
Dannyok04:53
Dannythen try the sudo?04:53
Sergi0yep04:53
Dannyok04:53
Dannylemme boot into kubuntu :)04:53
Dannythanks04:53
Sergi0ehm04:53
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temiHey, can anyone help out? Im trying to get WMP files on internet to load, i installed w32codex but it still doesnt work05:02
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Sergi0temi: try vlc05:03
Sergi0!vlc05:03
ubotuvlc is, like, totally, a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)05:03
temithanks :D05:03
Sergi0temi: search synaptic, its there somewhere05:04
temisearch in what?05:05
Sergi0temi: or the easy way terminal: 'sudo apt-get install vlc'05:06
Sergi0s/easy/lazy/05:06
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temiit said couldnt find package05:07
Sergi0u will need the universe sources i guess05:07
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Dannyuh...05:16
Dannyhow can I edit my etc/hosts file05:17
Dannyit says I don't have permission to edit it05:17
tristanmikeuse "sudo"05:17
Sergi0hmm05:17
Sergi0use sude05:17
Sergi0o*05:17
Dannyhow?05:17
Dannywhats the edit command in the terminal?05:17
Dannyand it gives me a sudo error05:17
Dannythats why I need too05:17
VRWarper<Danny> [09:35:35]  <Danny> sudo: unable to lookup dknoppix via gethostbyname()05:17
VRWarperyoure pretty f*05:17
VRWarperthats one thing i dont like about not setting a root password and depending on sudo05:18
VRWarperif you accidentally screw up the host name05:18
Sergi0VRWarper: u got a point there05:18
VRWarperyoull have to boot your machine with init=/bin/bash05:18
DannyI did set a root pass05:18
Sergi0Danny: try in terminal 'su - '05:18
Dannywhat'll that do?05:19
Sergi0try a root login for terminal session05:19
VRWarperoh05:19
VRWarperrofl then just log in as root05:19
Sergi0Danny: how did u change your hostname? just wondering05:19
VRWarperthen go about doing stuff05:19
Dannyso.."Ctrl-Alt-F6"05:19
DannyI dunno05:19
Dannywhen I rebooted, it asked me what my hostname was05:20
VRWarperprobably /etc/hostname05:20
Dannythe default was ubuntu05:20
Dannyhow do I login as root?05:20
OdyXCan somebody confirm Flight6 is released ?05:20
Tm_Tit is05:20
poningruyes05:20
Sergi0Danny: yes, login as root, change the /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts05:20
poningruit has05:20
Tm_TOdyX: topic05:20
Dannychange the hostname to what?05:20
OdyXTm_T: thanks05:20
Dannyi know aobout the hosts05:20
OdyXTm_T: Kubuntu even ?05:20
Sergi0Danny: just check it then :) it should be your hostname05:20
Tm_TOdyX: topic ;)05:21
Dannywhat is my host name?05:21
Dannysorry for being a noob05:21
OdyXTm_T: OK => Downloading by Torrent05:21
Sergi0Danny: np's05:21
OdyXTm_T: I should really go to sleep...05:21
Dannychange hosts to: 127.0.0.1 localhost dknoppix05:21
Dannyand hostname to..?05:21
Sergi0Danny: dknoppix05:21
Dannyok05:21
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Dannyand if I edit it via dknoppix it says no permission05:21
Dannyif i do a ctrl alt f6, then login as root05:22
Tm_TOdyX: I can't anymore, it's morning05:22
VRWarperbrb05:22
Dannyshould I cd to /etc05:22
Dannythen how do I edit hosts?05:22
OdyXTm_T: GMT+1 ?05:22
Sergi0Danny: what dknoppix?05:22
Tm_TOdyX: spent whole night compiling KDE4, still doing it05:22
Tm_TOdyX: +2 or +305:22
OdyXTm_T: haven't slept yet05:22
Dannythats my username05:22
OdyXTm_T: packagin' it for Kubuntu ? :P05:22
Tm_TOdyX: nope, atleast not this time ;)05:22
Sergi0so, ur username is dknoppix and the hostname is dknoppix ? thats wat ur telling me05:22
OdyXTm_T: OKay...05:23
OdyXTm_T: some compile.. some other go out for drink(sss) :D05:23
Tm_TOdyX: maybe next year05:23
Dannyhow do I edit the file?05:23
Dannyafter I do the ctrl alt f605:23
OdyXTm_T: for when is final KDE4 planned ?05:23
Dannyand cd to /etc05:23
Tm_TOdyX: no restrictive plans yet, prolly early 2007, maybe sooner05:24
Sergi0type 'nano /etc/hosts'05:24
Dannyok thanks05:24
OdyXTm_T: so Dapper +1 or +2 ?05:24
Dannybrb05:24
Sergi0Danny: u are logged in as root05:24
Tm_TOdyX: +205:24
OdyXTm_T: fine !05:24
DannyI will be05:24
DannyI know how to do that :)05:25
Dannybrb05:25
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temiYo, i got the stuff you guys said for WMP files but theyre still not running05:25
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Sergi0temi: whats the link of the file?05:27
Sergi0temi: url05:27
temilol..05:28
temilemme find it05:28
temiit was a movie on putfile05:28
Tm_Toh yes!05:29
temiit says05:29
temiCan't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one...05:29
temiNo useable audio-driver found! (alsasink)05:29
temihm05:29
temiok05:29
temiim stupid05:29
temilol05:29
Tm_Taah, KDE4 <305:29
temiwhich is?05:30
Tm_Thttp://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/blog/kde4-kate_01.png05:31
Tm_TOdyX: I can't wait, as you can see05:31
ryanakca!enter05:31
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.05:31
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temianyone know why it cant initialise my audio driver?05:33
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OdyXTm_T: what do you mean with "KDE4 < 3" ? Regression ?05:34
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Tm_TOdyX: <3 as a heart05:35
OdyX?05:35
temilolol05:35
OdyXit's a smiley ?05:35
temiit so doenst look like one05:35
OdyXSeems more like a "prout" if you understand what I mean...05:35
OdyXWell... You like it... ?05:36
OdyX:D05:36
Tm_TI do I do05:37
temiHey how do i know what audio driver im using?05:38
OdyXTm_T: fast, efficient? (I mean "faster than KDE 3.5" )05:38
Tm_Tcan't say05:38
Tm_Tbut it will be05:38
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OdyXTm_T: I like to hear it... :D05:39
=== OdyX loves the power of FLOSS.
OdyXTm_T: So.. I'll stop taking your precious time and throw me in my bed (taking shutdown time to confirm all those "no shutdown" bugs :D )05:40
temiDoes anyone know what "Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink'" means?05:40
OdyXSo. Have a good night guys (I mean "sleep" - GMT+1 here9!05:40
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Dannyok...it works05:41
Dannya bit05:41
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Dannyit asks me for my password05:41
Dannyso I enter my root password05:42
Dannyit doesn't work05:42
Dannythen I enter my user pass05:42
Dannyit doesn't work05:42
temilol05:42
Dannybut I know its the correct user password05:42
Dannyer05:42
Dannycorrect root pass05:42
temiits the same apssword as the one you use to login05:42
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Dannybecause I can login via the terminal05:42
Dannyuser password05:42
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Dannyor root pass?05:42
DannyI tried both05:42
robotgeekubotu: tell Danny about root05:43
Dannythanks05:45
Dannywhat is gksudo?05:45
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Dannyanywho..brb05:46
temiso05:46
temianyone know what "Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink'" means?05:46
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burepeI want to install Ktorrent 1.2 because my 1.0 doesn't work. 1.2 is not available in adept so could someone tell me how to install 1.2?05:50
Tm_Tburepe: svn05:50
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VRWarperworse suggestion ever05:50
burepewhat is that?05:50
VRWarperupgrade to 3.5.205:51
VRWarperkde 3.5.205:51
burepedo I do that through adept?05:51
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VRWarpererg05:52
VRWarper3.5.2 already made it into the official apt servers05:52
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burepecool thanks05:52
VRWarperso 1.2 should be in adept05:52
VRWarperjust let adept upgrade everything05:52
burepeI tried to do update but the option was not available05:52
burepeok05:52
VRWarperoh wait05:52
VRWarperbreezy or dapper05:52
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burepebreezy05:53
VRWarperbad assumption05:53
VRWarperyeah..05:53
VRWarperokay you need to add an apt server that has the latest kde05:53
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burepeok05:53
VRWarperhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:54
burepehow do I check if I have breezy or dapper. I think it is brezey but I am like wait a sec05:54
VRWarperits probably breezy :)05:54
VRWarperotherwise you would have the upgrade option05:54
burepeok05:54
VRWarperanyway05:54
burepecool thanks05:54
VRWarperfollow source-o-matic and generate a new sources.list05:55
VRWarperjust make sure you have kubuntu.org packages for latest kde version checked05:55
burepeyeah05:55
burepeshould I update kde or just ktorrent?05:56
VRWarperup to you05:56
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DannyI did (In a regular terminal) sudo kcontrol (password)06:04
Dannyand it seemed to work06:04
Dannythen I went to the network connections, and then it asked for my password06:04
Dannyand I entered it, and it said it was wrong06:05
robotgeekDanny: did you enable root?06:05
Dannyand it said something about su -06:05
Dannyhow?06:05
robotgeekDanny: ok, then you probably din't :)06:05
robotgeekDanny: did you type "your" password?06:05
Dannyyes06:05
Dannyboth06:05
DannyI went into Ctrl alt f606:05
Dannyand logged in as root06:06
Dannybut when I did sudo kcontrol06:06
robotgeekDanny: okay, did you mean user:root?06:06
Dannyit said something about display06:06
Dannyyes06:06
robotgeekDanny: if you enabled the root user, then gui tools will not work06:06
Dannyso should I use kdesu when I'm in the root terminal?06:07
Dannykdesu kcontrol06:07
robotgeekDanny: how did you enabled root user? did you do an expert install?06:07
Dannyyes06:07
robotgeekDanny: gui tools will not work, sorry06:07
Danny:(06:08
Dannyso what can I do?06:08
robotgeekDanny: hmm, you might be able to disable the root account, but i am nit sure06:08
Dannywhy would I want to do that?06:08
robotgeekDanny: cause you don't look like an expert user to me, no offense06:09
Dannyyes06:09
DannyI know06:09
Dannyi wasn't sure if and expert install would format my windows disk06:10
Dannybecause I still need that06:10
Dannyor will it take me to the partition manager?06:10
robotgeekDanny: you can still do admin stuff without being root account06:10
Dannybut it won't let me..06:10
robotgeekDanny: havent you installed kubuntu yet?06:10
ryanakcahttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Dovecot says that there should be a file called /etc/ssl/certs/dovecot.pem that's created when dovecot is installed. I installed dovecot, yet that file does not seem to exist, how do I create it?06:10
Dannyyes06:10
DannyI have06:10
robotgeekDanny: read the wiki page about root sudo, it tells you how to disable the root account. then, gui admin tools will work06:11
Dannykk thanks :)06:11
Dannyok...brb :)06:12
Snake|ONAIRhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000A3XRSO/sr=1-1/qid=1143950595/ref=sr_1_1/104-7723534-9433536?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=audio-video06:13
Snake|ONAIRoops06:13
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XVampireXHey, can anyone help me running native Eternal Lands?06:14
XVampireXThe website says "chmod to 775 and execute el.x86.linux.bin"06:14
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XVampireXWhat's chmod to 775?06:15
tristanmikeit changes the permissions on the file06:15
XVampireXhow do  I do the 775 thing then?06:15
XVampireXchmod +775 (file) ?06:16
tristanmikechmod 775 el.x86.linux.bin06:16
XVampireXah ok06:16
XVampireXDoesn't seem to be working06:17
tristanmikewhat are you doing after the chmod ?06:18
XVampireXI am trying to execute it06:18
XVampireXnot through console though06:18
tristanmikeahh, you should probably do it through a console06:18
XVampireX"bash: el.x86.linux.bin: command not found"06:19
tristanmike./el.x86.linux.bin06:19
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XVampireXah06:19
XVampireXyeah works that way, thanks06:20
tristanmikenp :)06:20
XVampireX:)06:20
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burepeVRWarper, I added the kde-latest repo but it does not say there is an update available06:30
burepeWhat to do?06:30
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vinboyhi06:35
vinboyhelp~~06:35
vinboyafter restart kubuntu06:35
vinboyI could ping 192.168.0.1 (the gateway) but nothing on the net06:36
vinboyand I tried to connect to the yahoo's ip but didn't work06:36
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macprohello whats the right driver to use with wpa_supplicant for broadcom 43xxx06:48
macprobtw im talkin about DF606:48
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Dannyok..I'm reinstalling Kubuntu06:52
Dannywithout the expert command06:52
Dannysee if that helps06:53
DannyI might need some help setting up my wireless connection though06:53
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ralphoHow do i log in as root07:04
ipfwralpho:  you don't07:04
faroussudo will do the trick07:04
ralphoneed to setup networks07:04
faroussudo will give you root prival07:04
farous!tell ralpho about root07:04
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ipfw!root07:12
ipfw!sudo07:12
ipfwthink the bot is broke07:12
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:12
ubotu[sudo]  a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:12
me2win!grub07:12
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting07:12
Dannyok07:13
Dannyhow do I connect to a wireless network?07:13
Kyral!wireless07:14
ubotumethinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers07:14
Dannyty07:14
Kyralnow I go shower07:14
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Kyralhey nalioth07:15
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Dannywhat if it doesn't have my model?07:16
naliothhi y'all07:16
Tm_Tnalioth: Hobbsee_: hello hello :)07:16
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Hobbsee_hi07:16
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KyralSysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-ARCH running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2700+ at 2166 MHz (4339 bogomips), , RAM: 990/1011MB, 80 proc's, 3.29h up07:16
Tm_T:o07:16
Tm_They now!07:17
me2winmetallica damnit!07:17
me2winS&M07:17
me2wincmon!07:17
Kyralhuh?07:17
me2winllol07:17
me2winwrong channel07:17
Tm_Tindeed07:17
KyralO_O07:17
me2winlol07:17
KyralYah I have to think about THAT in the shower..thats07:17
Kyralthanks evem07:17
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Tm_TWho - A Quick One, While He's Away07:18
Tm_THobbsee: hehe07:18
Tm_THobbsee: I'm fighting with kde4 stuff07:18
Hobbseeugh07:18
Tm_Tugh indeed =)07:18
sethanyone have a Broadcom 4306 successfully working with the bcm43xx stuff? (not ndiswrapper)07:19
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee_away:  you on Jabber?07:20
Dannyhello?07:22
Dannycan anyone help me with a wg111 usb card?07:24
GNU_Stylewhos on PCLINUX HERE?07:25
me2win?07:28
GNU_Stylecan I run ghost recon on linux?07:29
XVampireXGNU_Style: If there is a native version then yes, if not you will have to try Wine which might not work with ghost recon.07:29
Dannythis is dumb..but if I have a tarball, how do I install the program?07:31
XVampireXUhm, it depends07:32
Dannylike ndiswrapper07:32
Dannyor firefox07:32
XVampireXSome tars are source and some are binary07:33
XVampireXWouldn't you rather just install firefox through the repositories?07:33
Dannyhow?07:33
DannyI'm a total noob :/07:33
XVampireXgo to konsole and type in sudo apt-get install firefox07:33
Dannywell07:33
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Dannyfirst I need to get my wireless connection to work07:34
XVampireXwait, that's not the package07:34
Kyralwell, I have good and bad news07:34
ralphoI got root07:34
XVampireXah, it is07:34
Dannycan I do that with07:34
Dannyndiswrapper?07:34
XVampireXsec, let me see07:34
Kyral1) its the Nvidia driver causing my computer to f&&k up07:34
Kyraland not Kubuntu07:35
naliothDanny: you should use the repos as much as you can07:35
Dannyits a wb111 usb adapter07:35
XVampireXIf you want you can search for packages through apt-cache search package07:35
nalioth!ndiswrapper07:35
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper07:35
Dannywhats repos?07:35
Kyralhowever...I'm gonna use Arch until Dapper+1 opens :D07:35
naliothDanny: watch your private messages, most everything you will want is in them (over 17,000 programs)07:35
naliothDanny: you'll want to enable universe and multiverse repos07:35
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XVampireX!universe07:36
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:36
XVampireXThere you go danny07:36
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Dannyuh...07:40
Dannynvm07:40
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Dannyhow do I set up an ethernet connection?07:42
Kyral!ethernet07:43
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kyral07:43
HobbseeDanny: an ethernet connection?  set it up?07:43
Hobbseewasnt it already set up by default?07:43
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Dannyyes07:43
Dannydunno07:44
Kyralyou plug one end into the wall, the other end into the computer....07:44
Dannyyeah07:44
Dannydid that07:44
Kyral:P07:44
KyralI was just being an ass :P07:44
Hobbseehehe07:44
Hobbseecheck if it's already there in ifconfig07:44
Dannyi know :P07:44
Hobbseedunno why a *wired* connection wouldnt be connected though...07:44
Dannynope07:45
Kyrallike this07:45
Dannyits connected07:45
KyralINCOMING07:45
Kyraleth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:2F:ED:2B:3907:45
Dannybut I try to access the admin thing in the connections but its not letting me gah07:45
Kyral          inet addr:128.153.197.150  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.254.007:45
Kyral          inet6 addr: fe80::211:2fff:feed:2b39/64 Scope:Link07:45
Kyral          UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:107:45
Kyral          RX packets:41333839 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:007:45
Kyral          TX packets:18526916 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:007:45
Kyral          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100007:45
Kyral          RX bytes:2803354336 (2673.4 Mb)  TX bytes:1226201342 (1169.3 Mb)07:45
Kyral          Interrupt:20 Base address:0x880007:45
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Kyrallo        Link encap:Local Loopback07:45
Kyral          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.007:45
Kyral          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host07:45
Kyral          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:107:45
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Kyral          RX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:007:45
Kyral          TX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:007:45
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HobbseeKyral: you should know better!07:45
Hobbseeuse the pastebin!07:45
Hobbseei'm already having trouble with my connection, then you go and flood it!07:46
robotgeeksad07:46
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Kyrallol sorry07:46
Dannyand when I enter my password07:46
=== Hobbsee thwaks Kyral
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Dannyit doesn't work07:46
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Hobbseehehe07:46
KyralWork with me I'm on 3 hours of sleep here07:46
KyralOW!!07:46
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Hobbseeah, glad that clone left...07:46
KyralJeez....as per anime regulations07:46
Kyralonly women are allowed to smack me when I do something stupid!07:47
Hobbseehehe07:47
robotgeekyou have a problem, cause i don't watch anime07:47
Dannywhy aren't any of my admin thing doing?07:47
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robotgeekDanny: did the root thing work for you?07:48
Kyralchmod +wk robotgeek?07:48
DannyI reinstalled07:48
Dannythen it worked07:48
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Dannythen I rebooted07:48
Dannynow it works07:48
Kyraluhoh...07:48
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Kyralsorry sorry sorry07:48
Dannyer07:48
Dannynow it doesn't work07:48
robotgeekDanny: hmm, okay. is this dapper?07:49
Dannyno07:49
Dannyits kubuntu07:49
robotgeekDanny: okay, what gui admin app doesn't work?07:49
Dannyeverything07:49
DannyI enter my password07:49
Dannyand it doesn't do anything07:50
robotgeekDanny: try "kdesu konqueror" frpm a terminal07:50
Dannykk07:50
Dannyi just rebooted hold on a sec07:50
Dannyit asked me for my pass07:51
Dannyok..it openede07:52
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DannyI can open kuser in terminal07:53
Dannyvia kdesu07:53
robotgeekDanny: then it should work with the admin tools also07:53
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HobbseeKyral: horrible....07:53
Kyralhuh?07:53
Hobbseeyour flood probably killed my connection...07:54
Hobbseeit's rather fragile today...07:54
Kyralsorry!!!!!!!!07:54
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Kyralhappy?07:54
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Hobbseehmmm....what's that?07:54
Dannysoo?07:54
KyralRitual Suicide07:54
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robotgeekDanny: so it works?07:55
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Dannyyes07:56
Dannybut nothing else works07:56
robotgeekDanny: tru kdesu adept?07:56
Hobbseeah07:57
Danny"There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was:07:57
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DannyAuthentication Rejected, reason: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed07:58
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DannyPlease check that the "dcopserver" program is running!07:58
Dannyafter that07:58
Dannyit opened07:58
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Danny?08:01
HobbseeDanny: run dcopserver in a terminal, then?08:01
Dannyit says that its already running, and if I know its not running, to delete something08:02
Hobbseeah ok08:02
Hobbseewell, are you talking thru a terminal, or do you have kde running?08:03
Dannyboth08:03
Dannya terminal in kde08:03
Dannyi just did thru a terminal08:03
Hobbseeah ype08:03
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Danny?08:06
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Dannyhello?08:09
cuevahola08:09
robotgeekDanny: yes, do what it tell you to do08:09
Dannywhat?08:09
Dannyadept?08:09
robotgeekDanny: the dcopserver thing?08:10
Dannyoh08:10
Dannyi rebooted and didn't get that error08:10
robotgeekDanny: kk08:10
Dannyso?08:11
cuevaadios08:12
robotgeekDanny: so what?08:12
Dannywhat do I do?08:13
DannyI can't do any of the admin settings..08:13
robotgeekDanny: do you get a window which asks for your password?08:13
Dannyyes08:14
DannyI enter it and it works08:14
robotgeekDanny: then what is the issue?08:14
Dannybut not for when I click on "Administrator Moade"08:14
robotgeekah..08:14
Dannythen I enter it08:14
Dannyand it just refreshes and does nothing08:14
robotgeekDanny: click administrator mode, and try clicking on the window after that08:15
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Dannyand enter my pass?08:15
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robotgeekDanny: yup08:16
Hobbseehehe08:16
Dannyok08:16
Dannythen it just goes to the window without enabling me to do anything08:16
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robotgeekDanny: you will be in admin mode then, i think08:17
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Dannybut I'm not08:17
temiDoes anyone have an HP computer?08:17
DannyI can't edit it08:18
ipfwwhats the name of the xlibs package for ubuntu ?08:18
robotgeekDanny: weird, i don't know what to say :P08:18
robotgeek!xincludes08:18
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev08:18
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Dannywhats that08:18
ipfwthanks08:18
robotgeekthat's for ipfw08:18
Dannyoh08:19
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Dannyits like a su setting error or something08:21
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Dannyaha..08:23
DannyI took a look at my sudoers file08:23
Dannyand it says08:23
Danny"%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL"08:23
Dannyshouldn't that be changed?08:24
robotgeekDanny: i'm sorry, i don't know. lemme peek into mine08:24
Dannykk08:24
DannyI can't edit it...08:24
robotgeekDanny: visudo , i think08:24
Dannymy user doesn't have enough permission08:24
Dannyoh08:24
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Dannypermission denied08:25
DannyI tried nano sudoers08:25
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Dannyand got permission denied08:25
GullyFoylesudo nano sudoers08:26
robotgeeki have a root    ALL=(ALL) ALL in addition to your line08:26
Dannyare you root?08:26
Dannyand how do I edit it?08:26
Dannywhats teh default pass?08:26
Dannyfor root?08:26
robotgeekDanny: okay, i cam confused. did you read the wiki page about sudo and root?08:26
robotgeekDanny: root is disabled in kubuntu08:27
Dannythen how am I supposed to edit it?08:27
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robotgeekDanny: sudo visudo, i think08:30
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Dannylets see if I can write to it..08:30
nico__hi08:31
robotgeekDanny: don't mess with it, you can botch your system08:31
Dannytoo late08:31
nico__anybody know how to setup ati dual sceen ?08:31
Dannyits been the same issue08:31
Dannyjust my luck08:31
DannyI've installed ubuntu on my desktop and lappy before08:31
Dannyand same sudo problem08:31
ipfwwhy do people keep fighting this root thing08:31
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ipfwif you need root, just enable it ;)08:31
ipfwsudo was a wet dream when I started using linux :P08:32
Dannylol08:32
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ipfwI think the whole sudo thing is *cute*, but give me a break ;)08:33
Dannywhats the point?08:33
robotgeekDanny: you installed normally this time right, not expoert mode?08:33
Dannyyes08:33
ipfwDanny:  someone told me there is a guide to enabling root, after I had already done so08:33
ipfwtook me less than 5min to put on my "got r00+" t-shirt :P08:34
robotgeekDanny: weird. sudo works, but not administrator mode08:34
robotgeekmight be weird kde issue, upgrade to kde3.5.2 :)08:34
ipfwrobotgeek:  you on dapper ?08:35
Dannyhow?08:35
Dannyi don't  have access to the internet08:35
robotgeekipfw: yes08:36
Dannyhow do i enable root?08:36
ipfwDanny:  you seem to be on the net right now ?08:36
robotgeek3.5.2 is on breezy too08:36
robotgeekubotu: tell Danny about root08:36
ipfwrobotgeek:  I must have a crappy sources.list again08:36
robotgeekDanny: read that link08:36
Dannykk08:36
ipfw!root08:36
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:36
robotgeekipfw: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php08:37
ipfwDanny:  I did this: sudo su <passwd> and that su'd me to root user, then passwd <newPass> to set a root passwd, enabling the account ... seemed to work for me ;)08:37
ipfwDanny:  but again, I've never read the doc, it might explain better08:37
robotgeekipfw: he can read, you don't need to paste in here08:38
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Dannykk08:41
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kuzmasterhow do i mount my ntfs drive in kubuntu 5.1008:48
kuzmaster?????08:48
robotgeek!ntfs08:48
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:48
ipfwkuzmaster:  "man mount" should help explain08:48
ipfwwow, that bot has everything08:48
kuzmasterso wat would i type into konsole08:48
Hobbseea lot, yes08:48
Dannywell08:49
robotgeekkuzmaster: can you please read that link08:49
DannyI'm logged in as root08:49
kuzmasterok08:49
Dannyand I can edit everything :P08:49
Dannyso...08:50
DannyI made my primary membergroup root08:50
DenHi - Can anyone here help me with a wifi connection problem in Dapper?08:51
robotgeekDen: sure08:52
robotgeek!wireless08:52
uboturumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers08:52
robotgeek!wifi08:52
ubotumethinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:52
robotgeekDen: read those links, and if you need further help, let me know08:53
Denrobotgeek: Would you like to start with a pastebin of me tring to get it working?08:53
robotgeekDen: k08:53
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Denrobotgeek: Thanks - let me read the links now, & I'll come back if that doesn't solve it! :)08:53
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Denrobotgeek: Do you know if there are any known problems with wifi in Dapper?08:54
HobbseeDen: there are some, why?08:55
Dannyhow do I hook up an ethernet connection?08:55
DenHobbsee: I am only able to get wifi connected in Dapper about 10% of the time.  But, I get connections 100% in Breezy - so I think Dapper has some problem.08:55
HobbseeDen: with ndiswrapper?  what encryption?08:56
DenHobbsee: I'd like to find out if there are any known issues that might be causing this.08:56
DenHobbsee: no ndisw, no enc08:56
Hobbseehmmm08:56
zabaDen: Dapper is quite unstabile today ;-)08:56
Hobbseehehe - that's true08:57
Denzaba: I'm using an apt update from about 2 days ago.08:57
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Denzaba: Unstable in the networking area today?08:57
zabaDen: it's unstabile at all08:58
Denzaba: Unstable with respect to what?  And, very briefly (one sentence) why?08:58
zabaDen: it's in testing08:58
zabaDen: I'm using Breezy without problems08:59
zaba(with KDE 3.5.208:59
zaba)08:59
Denzaba: I'm surprised at that, though I'm not a computer sw person.  But, I thought that with just 2 monts to go, and Breezy being stable, there shouldnt be BIG unstability issues, true?08:59
zabaDen: yup09:00
zabaDen: but there can be some issues that can be fixed in next revesions09:00
zabaDen: including network issues09:00
Denzaba: Ah, kde.  Yes.  I think this is not a KDE issue, though.  I'm only asking this question in this KDE forum cause noone in #ubuntu+1 was able to help me on it.09:00
HobbseeDen: it is semi stable - in that we havent lost X for weeks.  but there are still plenty of bugs09:01
Dannywhy isn't my ethernet connection working?09:01
martin_Is flight 6 out??? If so, where can I find it?09:01
zabamartin_: flight 5 is latest09:02
martin_Ok09:02
Denzaba: Hobbsee Anyone - anyone have any comments about what to check out on wifi?09:02
robotgeekzaba: err, f6 is out09:02
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martin_Where do you get it? Couldn't find it on kubuntu.org09:02
HobbseeDen: all of it - with the console section, not the gnome section09:02
zabarobotgeek: really? why akregator didnt say it to me???09:02
Hobbseemartin_: then kubuntu flight 6 is likely not out yet09:02
DenHobbsee: ?? Meaning?09:02
robotgeekhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/09:02
Hobbseeoh really?09:02
Hobbsee!tell Den about wifi09:03
robotgeekHobbsee: got it from raphinks blog09:03
Hobbseethere's a sectoin about configuring wifi by the console - you want that09:03
Hobbseerobotgeek: ah ok...09:03
martin_OMG, thanks dude. So Flight 6 really is out, weee, time to burn :D09:03
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Dannycan anyone help with my ethernet connection?09:04
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Dannynite robotgeek09:04
DenHobbsee: What were you tryig to communicate about "the console section..."?09:05
XVampireXmartin_: Why don't you just upgrade?09:05
zabaDanny: I think u should ask this question on foruns ;-)09:05
martin_Like a dist-upgrade?09:05
XVampireXI guess09:05
HobbseeDen: the section entitled:  Using the command Line09:05
martin_Hmmm09:05
XVampireXI don't know what dist-upgrade is all about09:06
DenHobbsee: the section _of what_?09:06
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Hobbsee!wifi09:06
ubotumethinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto09:06
zabaDanny: forums (i meant)09:07
XVampireXBy the way, can I report a bug here or something? Cause I noticed a little bug with kubuntu and kopete where when I am on any application and right click on a desktop item immediately, it crashes kopete and desktop functions won't work until I close kopete09:08
Dannyi'm the master09:08
DannyI turned on the root account09:08
Dannythen switched the username to my old one09:08
Dannymwahaha09:08
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martin_Any idea if there are any plans to add options for file system encryption in the installation programs?09:09
DenIf I have Dapper installed, I can just use Adept package mgr to upgrade & I'll have the latest stuff  that's in filght6 - I don't need to reinstall with the flight 6 cd, correct?09:09
Hobbsee!tell XVampireX about bugs09:09
Hobbsee!tell XVampireX about bug09:10
XVampireXthanks09:10
zabaDen: i'm not sure but I think that u can09:10
Denzaba: thx09:11
zabaDen: just try to do that09:12
DenIs there a way to completely erase a posting from pastebin?09:19
zabaDen: no09:20
zabaDen: i think09:20
DenWho manages or developed pastebin?  Who do I contact to request that they make an improvement?09:21
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zabaon pastebin.com "send feedback"09:22
Hobbseewhat improvement?09:22
Hobbseeout of curiosity09:22
zabaHobbsee: deleting posts manually09:22
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Hobbseeah ok09:23
DenHobbsee: Hobbsee: deleting posts manually09:23
Hobbseelol09:23
Denzaba: Thx for "send feed" info.09:23
DenAnyone know who maintains http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?09:24
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Dannyhow do I install firefox from a tar?09:34
Dannywhich file do I run09:34
deviantuse the adept tool, danny09:35
deviantclick on start, then system09:35
DannyI have no internet09:35
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deviantthen are you using a thumbdrive or something to copy to your other comp?09:36
Hobbsee!firefox1.509:36
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:36
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Dannyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=883976#post88397609:38
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srednaHm, kopete is crashing while just sitting in the systray :(09:48
matt__my dell mini pci wireless doesn't seem to be working09:48
matt__any suggestions?09:48
me2winkopete sucks :D09:48
me2windell sucks :D09:48
matt__me2win: faggot09:48
matt__me2win: I hate you09:48
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vinboyhi09:49
vinboywat bittorent client do u guys use?09:49
me2winmatt__: im not sure about pci wireless, never used it before, try asking in #ubuntu09:50
matt__me2win: #beancity ?09:50
me2winvinboy: utorrent is good, but I use usenet so =/09:50
me2winmatt__: you can join there for an ass kicking09:50
Hobbsee!coc09:51
ubotucoc is, like, totally, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:51
srednavinboy: Ktorrent09:51
NeoChaosXKTorrent09:51
me2winmatt__: why arent you answering your IMs09:51
Hobbseematt__: please dont curse other people09:51
matt__me2win: lol, I gave it away09:51
me2winHobbsee: my bad :D, (hes my friend)09:51
vinboythanks me2win09:51
Hobbseethe same appies to me2win09:51
vinboythanks sredna09:52
me2winHobbsee: my bad :D, (hes my friend)09:52
matt__Hobbsee: Hobbsee, I'm just screwing with him09:52
Hobbseelol ok then09:52
matt__Hobbsee: I'm actually fatejudger09:52
matt__Hobbsee: on a friend's computer09:52
Hobbseeoh fair enough09:52
matt__this wireless error is weird though09:52
matt__SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory09:52
matt__it's like networking is broken in flight 609:52
matt__I haven't tried it with flight 509:53
Hobbseeah yeah - i ignored that, and it still worked OK09:53
matt__well I don't get that on my laptop09:53
matt__I use a wireless card though09:53
matt__none of this mini pci stuff09:53
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me2winmini pci ftl09:53
matt__when I try and get the IP through DHCP it doesn't work09:53
matt__so I can't really ignore it09:54
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srednaKopete crashed again :(09:55
srednaMaybe if I disable icq it would work09:55
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vinboywat password manager do u guys use?10:00
kev1nI am trying to install Realplayer10gold and having all sorts of problems. I am using Dapper10:01
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kev1ncan anybody help me10:05
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crimsunit would help if you pastebinned the errors10:09
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kev1ncrimsun...OK... will do10:11
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kev1n./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:14
crimsunso install libstdc++510:14
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kev1ni am a newbie.... i used adept to load everything... should that not be part of the original install if RealPlayer is looking for it?10:15
crimsunrealplayer is _not_ part of the original install.10:15
kev1nand where do i install it to?10:16
crimsuninstall what where?10:16
fatejudgercrimsun: so how's that Audigy 2 fix coming?10:16
kev1nwhat directory?10:16
crimsunfatejudger: stop bugging me, even if you are being facetious.10:16
fatejudgercrimsun: lol10:16
kev1nlibstdc++10:16
crimsunkev1n: just use Adept to install it.10:16
kev1nOK.. thanks crimsun10:16
crimsun(or open a Konsole and type: sudo aptitude install libstdc+5)10:16
crimsunlibstdc++5, rather10:17
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glickhey is anyone here a kubuntu/ubuntu developer?10:18
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crimsunglick: several are, why?10:22
glickwell im talking in #ubuntu-devel about a broken package that has never been upgrade10:24
glickd10:24
glickspecifically the gtk-gnutella version that comes with breezy10:25
glickit no longer connects to the network on purpose to force everyone to upgrade10:25
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DenHi - Where can I get the package   "network-admin"   mentioined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto   Ubuntu ships with a fantastic GUI network tool called network-admin. It can be run from a terminal but it is also readily available under the system menu. (System)->(Administration)->(Networking).10:29
kpaoloanyone use code::blocks for C???10:33
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naliothDen: alt-f2 > network-admin (you may have to install it, it's in gnome)10:40
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chaoticgeekhey all, I was having some issues with Kubuntu so I swiched back to ubuntu. I was wondering something about kubuntu. I had the problem where I installed firefox and wanted to use it but it would not allow me to use my mouse wheel, and I could not double click in the address bar to highlight the entire address. DId anyone else have a problem like that in 5.14 I think it was?10:43
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Dennalioth:  Do you know the name of the package I'd need to install to get it?  I searched for "network-admin" in the Adept package manager, & got no results.  Would I have to install the entire 'gnome system'tools' package?10:44
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naliothyes, you will need gnome-system-tools10:45
Denanyone know how kynaptic compares to adept functionality or ease of use or other wise?10:46
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chaoticgeekor does anyone know if you can get exstentions for konquor like you can in firefox? I love mouse gestures and the download them all extention10:48
chaoticgeekand I can not spell today...10:49
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chaoticgeekok.... Maybe I should come back later when more people would be awake...10:50
lukemaybe10:51
chaoticgeekI really like KDE, but I love firefox. I just wish they could work together like I want them to work together.10:52
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epinephrineis it possible that kubuntu loaded the wrong sound drivers?10:53
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andrea_hi guys10:53
andrea_i am in trouble10:54
andrea_my system is down after changing the reps to dapper10:54
andrea_can somebody help me?10:54
epinephrinein what way is it down? what doesn't work?10:54
andrea_the X system10:54
andrea_kde doesn't start10:54
andrea_i have tried to startx10:55
andrea_and i get an error, i can copy it partially by hand10:55
epinephrineis this after apt-get dist-upgrade?10:55
andrea_epinephrine: nope... i just used synaptics10:55
andrea_i changed the sources names from breezy to dapper10:55
andrea_and then i launched a smart upgrade all10:56
epinephrinesee what sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does10:56
andrea_ok let me try10:56
epinephrineI'm not familiar with synaptic10:56
andrea_tnx in the meantime10:56
andrea_ok i tried it10:57
naliothandrea_: join #ubuntu+1 to get help with dapper10:57
andrea_a lots of *** depends on *** but not installed10:57
epinephrinedid it want to upgrade or install anything?10:57
naliothandrea_: dapper is broken (and will be until june)10:57
epinephrinedapper works fine here10:57
naliothandrea_: if your new dapper system has network, i'd wait a couple of days and upgrade it10:57
naliothepinephrine: dapper upgrades killed 2 of my test boxesw10:58
epinephrine:o10:58
andrea_what do you mean killed?10:58
andrea_i need my laptop back to life10:58
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andrea_what's the kde basic package name?10:59
andrea_it seems most of dependancies for kde are missing10:59
epinephrinetry letting dis-uprade do its thing10:59
epinephrinedist even11:00
andrea_it doesn't do anything11:00
andrea_it says simply missing stuff11:00
andrea_the error i told you before11:00
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naliothandrea_: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install" from a terminal?11:05
andrea_i am trying it now!! :)11:06
andrea_i launched it just before you told me11:06
naliothandrea_: a big problem with upgrading to dapper is that some pkgs don't keep up with their dependencies11:07
andrea_i see11:07
andrea_maybe my sources file is wrong ..11:07
naliothone should wait until after it finalizes to upgrade (at least wait til a Release Candidate appears)11:07
andrea_can you take a look?11:07
andrea_yes, as soon as i can get back to have a working kde i will come back to breezy11:08
andrea_:)11:08
nalioth!paste11:08
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.11:08
naliothandrea_: put it in a pastebin please ^^^11:08
andrea_nalioth: i can't paste :)11:08
andrea_i will just make a copy and link it in my http server11:09
andrea_cp /etc/apt/sources.list /home/andrea/shared-folder/sources.lis11:09
andrea_damn it.. wrong place to write :)11:09
DenHi - How do I find out what myencryption settings are for my wifi, which is eth0, on my laptop? (I suspect it might be the problem that on Dapper I can't connect to the net, and ifconfig shows all RX packets are errors.) I'm asking here cause I got no response on #u+1.  Any ideas?11:09
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naliothDen: it is best not to use encryption11:09
JohnFluxnalioth say what11:10
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Dennalioth: Yes, but my wifi is not working, I never tried to set encryption, and iwconfig shows all RX packets are errors, so I'm thinking somenow Kub Dapper has set encryption without my knowing it, and that's why I can't connect.  Any ideas how to fix it?11:11
naliothi doubt very much anything has been set by dapper11:12
kpaolodoes anybody use ntfs with ubuntu??11:12
andrea_nalioth: http://tallia1.myftp.org/shared-folder/sources.list11:12
kpaololibntfs i mean11:12
naliothmore likely you've been hit with the same effect a lot of us have11:12
kpaolodoes it work properly?11:12
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naliothandrea_: did you happen to upgrade from hoary to dapper?11:13
DenIs there a "network-manager-kde" ?  How do I get to "network-manager-kde"?11:14
andrea_nalioth: no, from breezy to dapper11:14
andrea_the first entry was the first ubuntu cd that i had11:14
Dennalioth: Was your comment "more likely you've been hit with the same effect a lot of us have" addressed to me?  If yes, what are you referring to?11:15
naliothjust asking. andrea_11:15
andrea_nalioth: it says something no X screen11:15
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naliothDen: i had 2 test machines lose their networking abilities due to dapper upgrades11:15
naliothandrea_: install kubuntu-desktop11:15
Dennalioth: When? Is there a bug report on that?  Do you know if anyone is urgently working on getting that fixed?11:16
andrea_osshit there are 300 MB to download11:16
andrea_:)11:16
naliothDen: of course they are11:16
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Dennalioth: Great!  Where do I look to find out ASAP if there is a fix for it?11:17
naliothDen: ask in #ubuntu11:17
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Dennalioth: When was the first time the Dapper update lost networking on your boxes?11:18
naliothfor the amd64 box, a month ago, for the ppc box 5 days back11:19
Dennalioth: Thx -11:19
DenAnyone know if networking is messed up in the current Dapper  for ?X8611:20
naliothDen: my x86 test box is still functioning fine11:20
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Dennalioth: You're confusing me.  You said "more likely you've been hit with the same effect a lot of us have", but then said "my x86 test box is still functioning fine". - So, is networking operating OK or not?11:23
alfatauhello, i'm trying to get the names of the upgradeable packages and upgrade priority for using them in a script. can you help me? i tried grep-dctrl but i'm unable to get info about only upgradeable packages.11:23
naliothmy x86 dapper test box is fully functional11:23
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Dennalioth: Ok, so what then did you mean about "being hit with the same effect ..."???   How is your networking finctional, if you've been hit with that effect?11:26
naliothDen: my ppc and amd64 boxes both lost their networking11:27
naliothi've talked to folks who run x86 dapper boxes who've lost networking11:27
Dennalioth: So, you havent' updated your box since you heard others lost their networkin?  Ie, yours still works cause you have refrained from updating it?11:28
naliothDen: there are people in #ubuntu+1 now11:28
naliothDen: i update it every day11:28
naliothhow else am i gonna file bugs?11:28
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Dennalioth: I'm trying to understand you, but I can't understand how you hypothesize I've "been hit with the same efface a lot of us havee" when your own box is working.  Would you clarify that inconsistency for me?11:30
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Dennalioth: How could your box be working if it's "been hit with the same effect"?11:32
naliothDen: my personal x86 box is still functioning fine. i know a few users (who i know run x86) who have experienced the 'network loss' due to upgrade. my amd64 and ppc boxen have also fallen to it11:32
naliothDen: i started with three (3) test boxes11:32
naliothi now have one left that is still working11:33
nalioth2 of them lost their networking11:33
Dennalioth: Well, how could there be an ongoing "effect" if your x86 box is still working, and has been updated to the latest apt-get?11:34
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naliothDen: i lost 2 boxes (and all the daily image attempts to bring back the network have been for naught)11:34
Dennalioth: So, why didn't your x86 box get lost , if there is still an "effect"?  That's what I don't understand about what you've said.11:36
naliothDen: there are millions of combinations of hardware. some are gonna have problems that others do not.11:36
alfatauhello, i'm trying to get the names of the upgradeable packages and upgrade priority for using them in a script. can you help me? i tried grep-dctrl but i'm unable to get info about only upgradeable packages.11:37
naliothalfatau: ask in #ubuntu11:38
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__filip_How do i turn off the icon that jumping when i start a program?11:41
hugelmopf__filip_: only for a certain program or for all programs?11:43
__filip_For all programs.11:43
hugelmopfSystem Settings -- Panel -- Launch Feedback (?) (i don't know exactly, what it is called in english)11:44
__filip_Okey, i dont either have English.11:45
__filip_I found it.11:45
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n3stormHi everyone11:46
naliothhi11:47
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JohnFluxhas anyone got scim working in dapper?11:50
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srednaAnybody got printing with CUPS working in dapper?12:30
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srednaI need to print something12:37
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pastrynesswhenever i add mp3s to my amarok playlist it keeps saying 'Some media could not be loaded (Not playable)' .... what can i do to fix this? its mp3s, it should be playable12:45
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n3stormsredna: what is your problem with cups? I may help...12:48
n3stormI'm not using Dapper, though12:48
srednan3storm: Kdeprinter cant connect, ipp error it claims12:48
srednan3storm: The config seems right, the server is at localhost:63112:49
n3stormtry  the web interface http://localhost:63112:49
erikstiHey guys.  My "Network Settings" crash when I try to configure a network interface .. anyone else having this problem?  What's the alternative way to configure it?12:49
srednaAnd the permissions for the admin location is fine, and I am a member of all relevant groups12:49
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srednan3storm: I haven't found a way to add a printer there12:50
srednaMaybe I need to state my username12:50
n3stormclick on Administration12:50
n3stormwhat does it say?12:51
_harmhi, i want to copy a folder via consule how do i do this?12:51
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n3stormcp -R foldername destinantion, _harm12:52
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andrea_guys12:52
andrea_little problem12:52
srednan3storm: It claims to have found 2 printers that I do not have12:52
andrea_if i want to come back to breezy from dapper?12:52
andrea_i changed back the sources.list to the breezy ones12:52
n3stormsredna: are you on a network?12:53
srednaA epson and a canon, both on parralel port #112:53
andrea_anybody can give me an hint?12:53
srednan3storm: Well, I have a router here12:53
n3stormandrea_: you can't or is almost impossible12:53
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srednaAnd there are other PCs connected to it12:53
andrea_......osshit12:53
andrea_so i HAVE to fix dapper12:53
andrea_nice...12:53
XVampireX_What do I do with .sh files?12:53
n3stormsredna: those are the printers12:53
_harmharm@debian:/media/data/Backup/Downloads$ /media/data/Backup/Downloads/AnyWear(1).rar12:53
_harmbash: syntax error near unexpected token `1'12:53
XVampireX_It's a game I downloaded12:53
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srednan3storm: I dont' want them, I want my hp that is in parallel port 1 HERE12:54
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srednaMaybe if I put in a usb cable instead12:54
_harmok.. konqeurer automatically loads any index.html file even from local harddrive how do i disable that?12:54
n3stormhave you messed with the cups.conf file?12:54
srednan3storm: No12:54
n3stormthe problem is there, cups is trying to discover all printers in you network12:55
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srednaI dont' want it to12:55
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n3stormsredna: go to /etc/cups/12:55
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n3stormsrednan: where did you uncheck that?12:56
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n3stormsredan: where did you uncheck that?12:56
srednan3storm: The admin page in the web interface12:56
srednaBut ti doesnt do shit, they are still there12:56
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n3stormso dapper is using cups 1.212:56
n3stormgreat12:56
_nathan_Can any body help me with a root password problem?12:56
n3storm_nathan_: maybe12:57
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n3stormbut there a lot of people asking questions here before reading anything on the web12:57
n3stormI hope your problem is a real problem ;)12:57
texjoachimhi there!12:57
n3stormgo ahead, _nathan_12:57
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_nathan_I installed in expert mode an entered a password... Now I don't seem to be able to access anything that requires one.12:58
srednaI miss the correct usb cable12:58
srednan3storm: What should I do in /etc/cups?12:59
n3stormparallel or usb?12:59
srednaMy printer is parrallel (hp 5550)12:59
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n3stormsredna: nothing nothing, dapper seems to be using cups1.2rc which includes more options on the web interface12:59
purplefeltangelwhy is KDE better than Gnome?12:59
srednan3storm: But printing does not work here12:59
andrea_anybody answered me?12:59
andrea_i can't go up and check :(12:59
srednapurplefeltangel: Who says it is?01:00
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_harmok.. konqeurer automatically loads any index.html file even from local harddrive how do i disable that?01:00
purplefeltangelsredna: Linus Torvalds, for one01:00
srednapurplefeltangel: But basically because it's more consistent and better integrated01:00
n3storm_nathan_, try "sudo touch file" on your konsole01:00
andrea_!dapper01:00
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)01:00
purplefeltangelsredna: how so?01:00
andrea_exit01:00
srednapurplefeltangel: Really, see for yourself01:00
andrea_\j #ubuntu+101:00
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tvosshi all01:00
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purplefeltangelsredna: i've tried KDE but i can't get over how  ugly it is :S01:00
andrea_q01:00
srednapurplefeltangel: Then maybe it's not for you01:01
purplefeltangelsredna: to me it looks like a really tacky, flashy cross between Luna and Quartz Compositor01:01
tvosspurplefeltangel: Try the qtCurve-debs from kde-look.org :-)01:01
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n3stormpurplefeltangel: people using kubuntu ""likes"" more KDE than Gnome01:01
purplefeltangelsredna: everyone seems to love it though01:01
ccc_purplefeltangel: it's very configurable. just change the looks.01:01
purplefeltangeln3storm: pardon?01:01
andrea_quit01:01
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_nathan_ok01:01
tvosspurplefeltangel: Gives a nice gnomeish l'n'f:-)01:01
purplefeltangeltvo: l'n'f?01:01
ccc_purplefeltangel: my kde looks nothing like the standard kubuntu one. you can change just about anything.01:01
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tvosspurplefeltangel: look'n'feel01:01
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n3stormandrea is "/part"01:02
srednan3storm: I have the following problems with it: It does not detect my printer (on gentoo it did), and there appears to be no way to add it01:02
tvossDoes anyone know if there is a kde-port of the new dapper-gnome-icon-theme?01:02
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n3stormpurplefeltangel: I mean, there must be as many reasons as persons for that, in the end is a likes dislikes question01:03
n3stormin my opinion01:03
_nathan_What is "sudo touch file"?01:03
_nathan_Supposed to do?01:03
sredna_nathan_: Update the mtime of the file on behalf of root01:03
n3stormsredna: have a look at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf01:04
n3stormis the config file01:04
n3stormand also have a look at the following url01:04
srednan3storm: I have no idea what to look for01:04
srednaIt's a apache type config file, that was now changed by the web interface, which makes it more unreadable if that is possible01:05
_nathan_is there a way to reset the root password so that it is like a normal install?01:05
n3stormsredna: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/01:06
tvoss_nathan_: That means you want to have a normal root user?01:07
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_nathan_I think so... I am new to all of this. a shadow password01:07
_nathan_Funny thing is that I can see it here /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat01:08
_nathan_So I tryed to access it using the recover command from the install cd01:08
_nathan_Cannot log into the root account either... At least not from kde login screen01:09
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freakedhi all. how can i install the nvidia driver in kubuntu?01:09
_nathan_adept01:09
bhnafreaked: sart adept and search for nvidia01:10
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tvoss_nathan_: There is no "regular" root account in (k)ubuntu available ... to create one, open a terminal and type 'sudo passwd'.01:10
_nathan_ok01:10
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freakedwhat is a smp kernel for?01:11
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_nathan_then what log in as root?01:11
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tvoss_nathan_: Logging in from the login manager as 'root' is disabled by default...you have to enable it by reconfiguring kdm or gdm, don't know which one u r using!01:12
bhna_nathan_: with your user password01:12
srednaThe concept of discarding the main control panel when a function is chosen is really odd01:12
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_nathan_How do I access kdm gdm?01:13
tvosssredna: Same for me :-)01:13
bhnasredna: alt-f2 kcontrol01:13
srednaI know, bhna :)01:13
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_nathan_su returned an error01:13
tvoss_nathan_: What does the error message say?01:14
bhna_nathan_: sudo01:14
sredna_nathan_: sudo -i will give you a root shell. Kdesu <command> will run whichever GUI app as root01:14
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freakedcan someone please point me to the wiki page where the installation of the nvidia driver is described?01:15
srednaCan I downgrade the annoying ***** to something that works?01:15
_nathan_This is pissing me off I guess I will reinstall again...01:17
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pastrynessfreaked, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8178.html01:17
Tallia1Kubuntuyes01:17
Tallia1Kubuntunow it works01:17
Tallia1Kubuntudapper -> error with ATI drivers :(01:17
_nathan_It takes for ever01:17
Tallia1Kubuntureboot time though01:17
_nathan_is there anyway to install from the hardrive instead of CD01:18
_nathan_I don't have access to the net all of the time and I would like to be able to recover the packages I install when I have to reinstall01:19
srednaDAMNED01:19
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srednaDoes anyone know a distro with a working CUPS system?01:19
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pastrynessim having trouble getting 4 channels to work. i pick 4 channels on kmix but still only 2 of my speakers get sound out. im using nForce 201:20
srednaAnd it seems useless to do anything about this at all, since it does not seem to pick up my printer anyways. But why on earth not?01:21
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ubuntuHi. Is anyone free to help with a problem?01:23
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Kamping_Kaiserdeclan:  ask the question, and if someone knows, they will answer01:23
Riddelldeclan: just ask01:23
declanYou are gonna sigh at the newbie, but I upgraded from breezy to dapper using apt01:24
djibhey, what are the "proposed" repos ?01:24
declanLooks like the GUI wont load  and I dont know how to get back01:24
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Kamping_Kaiserwb Hobbsee01:25
mikeblamiresdeclan, you don't have an old nvidia card do you?01:25
Riddelldeclan: does X work?01:25
Hobbseehi Kamping_Kaiser01:25
declani dont think x is working. It says it had a problem with display01:25
Hobbseeevening Riddell01:25
declani have a prosavage s3 integrated01:25
Riddellmorning Hobbsee01:25
Riddelldeclan: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:26
Riddellyou can try and see if X is working with the command `X` and quitting with control-alt-backspace01:26
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declanthanks. I am running off the live cd at the moment so i can use my machine.01:28
declanIs there anything else I can try?01:28
srednaI appear to have a lot of stuff loaded that I dont' need - bluetooth for example01:29
Riddellsredna: cups in dapper is broken, in the released 5.10 (breezy) it should work fine01:29
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Riddellsredna: don't use it then01:29
srednaRiddell: It appears that that is the solution01:30
Riddelldeclan: copy the xorg.conf files from the working live CD01:30
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Riddelldeclan: and make sure you have fully upgraded and kubuntu-desktop is still installed?01:31
Riddellsredna: where does bluetooth appear?01:31
declanerm.... how do I do that? I am still a newb (I know, i shouldnt have got dapper!)01:31
srednaRiddell: I was looking at dmesg output, to see if there was something about my printer01:32
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HobbseeRiddell: is there something that makes the bluetooth stuff not automatically be installed, at the first install?01:32
_nathanHow do I turn off the root password01:32
Hobbseeseems a bit silly, if one does not have any bluetooth devices01:32
srednaRiddell: There is a whole bunch of lines saying  '[4308274.421000]  lp0: ECP mode' btw, but I have no idea what that means01:32
RiddellHobbsee: no, but the bluetooth stuff should keep itself hidden on the GUI until it detects a bluetooth device01:32
_nathanNiether the root nor the my user pass get me access to any of the control systems.01:32
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HobbseeRiddell: hmmm...there are still programs in the kmenu for it...01:33
Riddell_nathan: in breezy?01:33
_nathanyes01:33
_nathannot upgraded01:33
_nathancan't access adept01:33
RiddellHobbsee: sure, but there's lots of programmes installed you don't use, we can't pick a perfect selection of programmes :)01:33
Riddell_nathan: make sure breezy-updates is installed01:34
_nathanI know that there has got to be a way to fix this with out reinstalling01:34
_nathanCan't update without access to adept.01:34
_nathancan I update from a console? I seem to be able to access root there01:34
Riddelldeclan: copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere it won't disappear when you reboot01:34
Riddell_nathan: yes01:35
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_nathanwhat is the command?01:35
Riddell_nathan: edit  /etc/apt/sources.list to enable breezy-updates and security  ; sudo apt-get update;  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:35
_nathanOk...01:35
HobbseeRiddell: that is true.01:36
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declanis there an easy way to go back to breezy once I have used dist-upgrade?01:40
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Flosofthey01:41
Flosofthow do I create a network boot server on my Kubuntu?01:41
Flosoftso that pcs can boot an network image from it?01:41
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Riddelldeclan: no01:43
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_nathanThank you it seems to be working01:44
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declanOh dear. In that case, whats the best way to backup my data and reinstall Kubuntu(breezy)?01:45
_nathanseems faster than using adept01:45
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_nathanIs it possible to reset the root password to the default in a normal install?01:47
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=== OdyX needs people seeding Kubuntu Flight 6 in *.torrent.
_harmI need to disable the auto open index.html! i cant view a folder cuz everytime konqeurer just opens the index01:49
jindLong time until dapper is released? ca?01:50
_nathanI would like to check out gnome will installing it hurt kde01:50
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erikstiCould anyone send me sources.list?  I've messed it up, and I'm not able to receive the keys when using the Srouces.list generator01:52
Hobbsee!repos01:52
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:52
erikstithanks, Hobbsee, I'll check it out01:53
FlosoftOdyX ... wheres the torrent?01:53
FlosoftI can also put it onto my mirror server01:53
OdyXFlosoft: im looking for the live => http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-live-i386.iso.torrent01:54
OdyXand for the install => http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-install-i386.iso.torrent01:54
Flosoftok01:54
Flosoftone sec01:54
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Flosofti'll add it to my torrent server and mirrors01:55
knoppixTallia1hi there01:55
bimberi_nathan: no, should be fine, you can install ubuntu-desktop to get the full ubuntu gnome setup01:55
knoppixTallia1i still have a problem with dapper01:55
knoppixTallia1when i did the upgrade i dunno why the plug and play system have been uninstalled01:55
bimberi_nathan: the root password isn't set during the normal install (hence disabling login to the root account)01:55
Flosoftok ... added both of them01:56
knoppixTallia1is it easy to "create" the eth device?01:56
ccc_jind: june 1st01:56
OdyXFlosoft: Cool01:56
knoppixTallia1as hotplug do?01:56
Flosoftupload limit per torrent: 4096 kbit/s01:56
jindccc_, thanks!01:56
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Flosoftok ... they're running01:57
n3stormsredna: one thing, the cups version you have installed on dapper is a beta or release candidate01:57
Flosoftbrb01:57
n3stormI think you will find many more problems and without more background on debian system....01:58
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n3stormin my point of view you should move to kubuntu breezy, the stable release01:58
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knoppixTallia1in dapper, which are the packages that do plug and play?01:58
|Flosoft|hey again01:59
knoppixTallia1mine are uninstalled, so i can't even connect to the net and download them....01:59
knoppixTallia1plz i need help01:59
_nathanBbimberi: I realize that but now that it is activated I would like to deactivate it01:59
srednan3storm: Had I foreseen this I would have tried that. I was adviced that there was no serious problems left with dapper01:59
ubuntumy system won't boot i've dapper01:59
Hobbseen3storm: sredna's a developer...he can probably cope...01:59
n3stormknoppixTallia1: please stop installing Dapper as your first linux distribution, is unstable yet, try Kubuntu Breezy01:59
ubuntuhave other people the same problem01:59
n3stormsredna: are you reeding knoppixTallia1 prob?02:00
sredna?02:00
knoppixTallia1n3storm, i updated breezy02:00
knoppixTallia1and they tell me there's no way of coming back02:01
knoppixTallia1the problem is that i have no plug and play02:01
knoppixTallia1that is i can't connect to the net02:01
n3stormHobbsee: but he "needs" to print and he is using a beta distro in a production enviroment02:01
Hobbseen3storm: true.02:01
n3stormknoppixTallia1: try installing hotplug and udev packages...02:01
Hobbseeprinting is one of the few places with great big errors, on everyone's system02:01
_nathanStill getting the su problem... perhaps a reboot02:02
n3stormHobbsee: mmm, not in mandriva, sorry to say02:02
n3stormand Breezy is behaving perfectly in my system02:02
Hobbseen3storm: knoppixTallia1's getting help in #ubuntu+1 as well, FYI02:02
n3stormHobbsee: thanks very much02:02
Hobbseen3storm: i meant within the people running kubuntu dapper02:02
Hobbseealthough mine's working - no idea why -02:02
Hobbseesometimes it works if you upgrade off earlier versions, i dont know why02:03
Hobbseeoh well02:03
n3stormHobbsee: Dapper is using cups beta too, so it's a beta over a beta!!! ;)02:03
Hobbseehehe02:03
knoppixTallia1Hobbsee, what's the "new" hotplug for dapper?02:03
Hobbseeoh so we do have the beta in there now?  that must be why02:03
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knoppixTallia1Hobbsee, i need to download it...02:03
Hobbseegot no idea - i dont think they were having one02:03
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n3stormI just compiled cups 1.2rc1 to help sredna02:04
srednaWow02:04
n3stormand it goes very nice02:04
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knoppixTallia1Hobbsee, so how plug and play is made?02:04
Hobbseei'm not sure02:04
srednaCome to DK, and I'll buy you a beer02:04
knoppixTallia1Tm_T, hey.... dapper is not really working as you said..02:04
knoppixTallia1Tm_T, i have no more plug and play02:04
Hobbseebut you can plug in a USB mouse or whatever, and it'll work02:04
n3stormsredna: it went very easy, and I'm a kind of printing system migration expert at my job02:05
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knoppixTallia1Hobbsee, no i can't02:05
knoppixTallia1Hobbsee, no plug and play02:05
knoppixTallia1Hobbsee, on ubuntu+1 they say "udev"02:05
Hobbseewell, usually it's possible02:05
Hobbseeyeah, i'm in that room as well02:06
Hobbseehave you installed udev, and tried it yet?02:06
knoppixTallia1i can't02:06
knoppixTallia1i have no connection under kubuntu02:06
knoppixTallia1i have to download them by hand02:06
Hobbseepackages.ubuntu.org02:06
knoppixTallia1thnx :)02:06
asranielanyone knows how to dowload music from the ipod with amarok?02:07
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srednan3storm: Do you suggest that I do that (compile) as well?02:07
Hobbseeasraniel: ask that in #amarok if you get no answer here02:07
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avinoamHey guys, I'm trying to setup an ad-hoc wireless network so that my laptop with ubuntu can host internet for my friend's laptop with windows xp. I couldn't find a howto. Any ideas?02:07
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n3stormsredna: no, I don't think so02:08
n3stormmmmm02:08
srednaOk02:08
n3stormsredna: have you created a root user?02:08
srednan3storm: No02:08
n3stormplease do02:08
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srednaSodo adduser root?02:08
srednaSudo02:08
simian__i've been playing doom3 but when i exit my screen resolution is all wrong02:08
n3storm"sudo passwd"02:08
simian__is there a command i can type to fix this02:09
srednan3storm: Done02:09
geniorealhi i just switch yo kubuntu, how can i add a /home/ icon on the desktop?02:09
n3stormtry to do "su" now02:09
srednaWorks02:09
Hobbseegenioreal: right click on desktop, create new, link to location02:09
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n3stormgo to administration again02:09
n3stormtry this link http://localhost:631/admin?op=add-printer02:10
n3stormsredna:02:10
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bh4twyou could create an image of the harddrive for easy recovery02:12
bh4twsorry wrong post02:12
srednan3storm: I can do that, waiting for it to list ppd files02:14
n3stormok02:15
srednaI selected HP(HPLIP)02:15
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n3stormok02:15
srednaWith HP, the model was not listed02:15
n3stormwait02:15
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n3storm990C model is the equivalent02:16
n3stormsredna: did you find it?02:17
srednaYes02:17
srednaIt works02:17
srednaThank you very much02:17
srednaIt prints a test page02:17
n3stormsredna: great!02:17
srednaYou are my hero of the day, truely02:17
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n3stormhahaha02:17
n3stormnot at all02:17
n3stormI'm happy too02:17
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srednan3storm: Interrestingly, the kde printing system is now working as well02:22
srednaMust have been the missing root account02:23
n3stormI am sure02:23
n3stormI always enable it as soon as I can02:23
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srednaWell, there are a few places where it is required02:23
geniorealis the Kubuntu Flight 6 stable yet?02:24
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Hobbseegenioreal: dapper is not stable.02:24
n3stormgenioreal: no it isn't02:24
n3stormHobbsee: :)02:24
geniorealok02:24
Hobbsee:P02:24
Hobbseedapper is not stable, and if you try to use an exploit, then i will ban you.  both of these are very simple facts.  lol02:25
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_nathanBack again I am still getting the "su returned an error" after the upgrade...02:26
Hobbsee_nathan: why not use sudo -s?02:26
srednaNow I fixed it to use the hpjis driver, so I'm one happy chap02:28
n3stormhplip is the substitute of the hpjis sredna02:28
_nathan?02:28
n3stormhplip, in fact, includes hpjis02:28
srednan3storm: I used the HP (HPLIP) group in the kde add pritner wizard, which gave me the driver combination Foomatic/hpjis for my model02:29
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n3stormok ok02:29
_nathanHobbsee: I want to launch adept or kcontrol02:29
n3stormif it works for you go ahead02:29
Hobbsee_nathan: kdesu appname?02:30
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GNU_Style is microsoft really patenting the ONES and ZEROS?02:30
Hobbseeor sudo -s in a shell, to get a root shell, and then the app name02:30
leonidisgood moring every one02:30
leonidisi am a new kubuntu user02:30
VRWarperno, just the real number set02:30
n3stormHobbsee: I dont't agree02:30
leonidislocated in greece02:31
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leonidisand i would lik some  help02:31
n3stormyou can't run X apps from su, do you?02:31
Hobbseesu doesnt work on kubuntu - from sudo -s, yes you can02:31
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Hobbseei think so, anywya02:31
leonidisi would like to play radio statios from network but how can i do that?????02:31
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Hobbseen3storm: looks like you can02:32
n3stormI can't02:32
_nathanI just want this to work... Click on adept -> enter password -> get quanta or 3d chess or what ever02:32
n3storm:(02:32
Hobbseeweird02:32
VRWarper:| just sudo adept02:32
VRWarperor if that doesnt work you can try02:33
VRWarperkdesu adept02:33
_nathanok02:33
VRWarperthey appear to do the same thing except kdesu is something part of kde02:33
VRWarper^^ oh well02:33
Hobbsee!+kdesu02:34
ubotuUse kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"02:34
VRWarpermeh i guess you are suppose to use kdesu02:35
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_nathanI already ran the update to no avail02:36
_nathanThe problem has something to do with the fact that I enabled the root password02:36
VRWarperdoes it?02:36
VRWarperi have root enabled too02:37
VRWarperand sudo/kdesu works fine for me02:37
VRWarperwhat happens when you do kdesu adept02:37
_nathanI enter my password and the "su conversation fails"02:38
_nathanI did not have this problem last time I installed and I have installed a lot and I am tired of it.02:38
GNU_Styleany names of good and simple FTP anf HTTP server for windows?02:38
_nathanactually I did but the update seemed to fix it02:39
_nathanMaybe if I log in as root and run the update again02:39
_nathansudo apt-updater does not seem to do anything02:40
_nathanjust returns the prompt02:40
VRWarperGNU_Style: why are you asking that in a linux channel -_-02:41
_nathanMaybe becaue it will work02:41
ChousukeGNU_Style: a windows port of ftpd? :p02:42
GNU_Stylecuz i want GNU, yes if theres a port what name?02:42
ChousukeGNU_Style: have you used google? :P02:43
GNU_StyleChousuke, yes, but I want peoples opinion02:44
ChousukeHmm :/02:44
ChousukeWell I have no idea what is a good windows FTP server.02:44
vinboybulletproof ftp server02:45
_nathanIs there some way to launch gui stuff from a root shell. I seem to have access there02:45
Chousukevinboy: that's not GNU stuff though. ;P02:45
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vinboyooooopsss02:45
vinboysorry i didn't read above02:46
vinboyhaha02:46
vinboyyea bulletproof isn't gnu02:46
Chousukeif you want GNU stuff you'd be better off using a Free operating system for starters.02:46
_nathanwhat does touch file do?02:46
Chousuke_nathan: it's the same as if you had edited the file02:47
Chousukealso, a file by that name will be created if it didn't already exist02:48
_nathanI don't understand... Like a save as? Some file has been modified now "touch file" tells the system02:48
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sponzorhow to start sshd in kubuntu?02:48
vinboyi feel that kubuntu is nicer than ubuntu02:48
vinboyand ubuntu is much better than many other linux os out there02:48
Chousuke_nathan: touch just simulates modification.02:48
_nathanFrom where, who manipulated it?02:49
Chousuke_nathan: good for doing stuff which depends on file modification times and other stuff.02:49
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_nathanlike what changing a password?02:49
natashahow can I change my user name?02:49
sponzorhow to start ssh server in kubuntu?02:49
sponzor?02:49
Chousuke_nathan: no.02:49
_nathanI am lost here I have no access to any of the administrative tools in kde. What good is this system02:50
Chousuke_nathan: sometimes you want a file to appear as if it had been modified, without actually opening it in an application and saving it.02:50
Chousuke_nathan: touch simply does that.02:50
Blippesponzor, get "open ssh server" from synaptic...02:50
Chousuke_nathan: use sudo02:50
_nathanDamn I am whining...02:50
_nathansudo what02:50
Chousukewell, sudo apt-get install <application> for example02:51
Chousuketo install apps02:51
_nathansudo kcontrol does nothing and i cannot figure out how to launch it from a console02:51
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Chousukeall of the GUI application should prompt for a password when needed02:51
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Chousukeapplications*'02:51
_nathanwhat the hell good is a gui front end for apt-get if I can't get to it02:52
Chousuke_nathan: why can't you?02:53
Chousuke_nathan: it should be in the menus.02:53
Chousukewhat's wrong with it02:53
sponzorBlippe synaptic?02:53
_nathanThe gui apps ask for a password tell me it's wrong and do nothing02:53
Chousuke_nathan: are you giving it the correct password (your own)02:53
Blippesponzor, sorry, i meant adept02:54
Chousukealso, are you an administrator user?02:54
_nathanThis time it did not even get that far just "su returned with an error"02:54
_nathanI am the only user02:54
Chousukedid you do a regular install?02:54
_nathancreated by me not more than a half hour ago02:54
Chousukeoh, hmm02:55
sponzorBlippe i m lost now how to open ssh server in shell02:55
sponzor?02:55
Chousukeso it wasn't created during install?02:55
_nathanno i did not and i entered a root password02:55
Chousukeno wonder then02:55
ChousukeIIRC, for sudo to work, you must belong to the wheel group02:55
_nathanwhat02:55
Blippesponzor, if it is installed, just type "ssh [username] @[server] " in konsole02:55
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Chousuke_nathan: kUbuntu uses sudo for root by default.02:56
Blippesponzor, you could try it with "ssh localhost"02:56
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Chousuke_nathan: most applications assume that instead of root you have a proper sudo setup02:56
_nathanHow can i get them to "un-assume" that02:56
sponzork02:56
Chousuke_nathan: I have no idea.02:56
_nathan**** this guess its reinstall time02:57
Chousukenah.02:57
Chousuke_nathan: You should just use sudo. It doesn't have any disadvantages over root02:57
_nathansudo for what it doesn't do anything02:57
Blippe_nathan, it gives you root-priviligies02:58
Chousukelog in as root and add your regular user to the wheel grou02:58
sponzorok i installed ssh with apt-get install ssh :P02:58
Blippe!sudo02:58
ubotusudo is, like, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:58
sponzorhow to start it now02:58
_nathanI can't log in as root02:58
Chousukeum.02:58
_nathanat least I don't know how02:58
Blippesponzor, in konsole type "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"02:58
sponzorok02:58
Chousukerun "su" in a terminal02:59
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Chousukeand give the root password you issued during install02:59
_nathanok02:59
_nathani have a root terminal02:59
Chousukeright.03:00
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slow-motionhallo03:00
Chousuke_nathan: now you should add your regular user to the wheel group03:00
Chousuke_nathan: adduser <username> wheel03:01
sponzorok it works now03:01
_nathank03:01
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Chousukeiirc, wheel users are administrator users with sudo rights.03:01
Chousukethen you must log out and log in again, and sudo should work03:01
Chousukeunless there is something else wrong.03:01
_nathanadduser: The group `wheel' does not exist.03:02
_nathandoes it need to be in brackets03:02
GNU_Styleis there a BASH for windows?03:03
Chousuke_nathan: hm03:03
VRWarpertry cyg-win03:03
ChousukeYour setup really differs from the default :/03:04
ChousukeI wish I was running ubuntu now so I could ascertain a few things. :P03:04
_nathanI don't see how all i did was enter a password for root... Everything else I left the same03:05
Chousukeyou did an expert install?03:05
_nathanyes03:05
ChousukeHmm. :/03:05
ChousukeMaybe that leaves sudo unconfigurred.03:06
Chousuke-r03:06
Chousukemeaning that you will have to create the wheel group and edit /etc/sudoers manually to make it work03:06
_nathanI can't access anywhere that I know of to do thos things.03:06
Chousukewell, you can gain access to a root terminal03:07
Chousukewhich is all you need.03:07
ChousukeWeird though.03:07
ChousukeI'm almost sure that the GUI apps should be able to use plain su if sudo is disabled.03:07
Chousukebut since you did and expert install, the system assumes you know how to configure such things yourself.03:08
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_nathanOh I see03:08
Chousukean*03:08
_nathanI added the group wheel03:09
inc|freakyhi all. i just installed ksmoothdock - how to get rid of the kde kicker?03:09
Chousukeuse visudo to edit /etc/sudoers03:09
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inc|freakywitzhout removing an existing application dock panel?03:09
_nathanshould I add my user name to "wheel"?03:09
Chousukeyes.03:10
Chousukeand then you need to edit /etc/sudoers03:10
Chousukewith visudo!03:10
Chousuke(just run visudo as root)03:10
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_nathanwhat do I add03:10
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Chousukelet's see.03:11
_nathanit looks different from the last install03:11
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sponzorhow to instal .rpm03:12
sponzorin shell?03:12
sponzornmap-4.01-1.x86_64.rpm03:12
Chousuke_nathan: I can't remember sudo's syntax.03:13
Chousukehmm03:13
Chousuke"%wheel ALL = (ALL) ALL" or something03:13
_nathanwhat is "wheel"03:14
Chousukevisudo should complain if that's brokne03:14
Chousuke_nathan: wheel is the group you just created.03:14
Chousukethat line in the sudoers file means that anyone in the wheel group is allowed to run any command as root using sudo03:15
Chousukeso if you want an user to be able to act as an administrator, you can add that user to the wheel group.03:15
zaba_sponzor: I not sure that debian-based systems can install RPMs03:15
_nathanwhy did I name it wheel03:16
_nathanwhynot admin?03:16
Chousuke_nathan: tradition :P03:16
_nathanor something03:16
sponzorhmm sux03:16
_nathanAhh03:16
_nathanTeach the noob03:16
Chousukeadmin would make more sense to me too though. :D03:16
_nathanThat is how it was set up before03:17
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Chousukeoh wel03:17
Chousukewell*03:17
Chousukeit doesn't really matter.03:17
_nathanwhat about this line? user_name ALL=(ALL) ALL03:17
Chousukethat gives a specific user access to sudo03:17
_nathando I need to reboot for this to work?03:17
Chousukeno03:17
Chousukejust log out and log in again03:18
_nathank03:18
_nathanbrb03:18
sponzorchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:20
sponzorSee `config.log' for more details.03:20
sponzor?03:20
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_nathanI think that it is working... Adept is bogging the system03:21
Chousukebogging?03:21
Chousuke:|03:21
Chousukedid it accept your password this time?03:22
_nathanYa limited ram... Adept really slows me down03:22
_nathanyes03:22
_nathanThank you so much03:22
Chousukeah.03:22
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ChousukeWell, glad that it's working now.03:22
_nathanDammit I was readdy to start pulling hair.03:22
_nathanGatta alot to learn...03:23
zaba_sponzor: what's problems? your gcc isn't working correctly...03:23
sponzormuh i dont know this sux03:23
_nathanIf I install gnome will it effect kde03:29
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tristanmike_nathan: no, not at all03:31
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_nathanwill I be able to switch back and forth or only one ata time03:32
tristanmike_nathan: well, in gnome there is an option to start another session, which means you can run ubuntu and kubuntu at the same time, i'm not sure if Kubuntu has the same options03:33
_nathanIs it possible to remove specific componets of kde? Last time I tryed it wanted to remove everything03:35
tristanmikeit depends on what you want to remove, if you want to remove Konqueror, I'd say it's a no go03:35
_nathanThat would not make much sense... In a way konqueror is KDE03:38
tristanmikeI know ;)03:38
tristanmikesome people might want to try and get rid of it03:38
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noteventime:) Is anyone in here using wpa supplicant?03:39
_trojan_how is dapper coming along?  any testers?03:41
_nathanI am still out on it... The integration is nice but it seems like it is trying to do an awful lot.03:42
noteventimeI'm using dapper03:42
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noteventimeWow, the notwork-manager-kde is awsome :d03:42
pradeeptoI am using dapper too03:42
_trojan_any blender users on dapper?03:43
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noteventimeYes03:43
noteventimeme03:43
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pradeeptobtw I installed dapper 5  couple of days back, will apt-get dist-upgrade update it to stuff that is there in df6 ?03:43
danimois ghostscript working properly for all of you with dapper?03:43
danimofor it it constantly runs out of memory with a lot of pdfs03:44
_trojan_how is it working noteventime03:44
noteventimeGreat :D03:44
martQuestion:  Suppose I'm getting rendering problems for certain values of "System Settings->Appearance->GTK styles and fonts" in emacs, what would I file a bug against?03:44
_trojan_noteventime: did you try the python scripts?03:44
noteventimeYes03:45
_trojan_and?03:45
noteventimeWell, not all of them, but the ones i used worked03:45
_trojan_:P03:45
noteventimeI've had no problems at all with blende03:45
noteventimer03:45
_trojan_graphics card?03:45
noteventimeBuilt in Intel ;)03:46
martuh, I should re-phrase that:  suppose I'm getting rendering problems in emacs for certain values of "K-> System Settings-> Appearance-> GTK styles", what would I file a bug against?03:46
_trojan_noteventime: do you use torque?03:46
noteventimeIt's a centrino laptop03:46
noteventimeno, I've used crystal space03:46
_trojan_I may give dapper a whirl03:47
noteventimeDo so03:47
noteventimeGenerally it feels more stable than breezy03:48
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_trojan_no kidding.  I would rather be using 2.4103:48
noteventimeYou know flight 6 is out, right?03:48
_trojan_yep03:49
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_trojan_i have ubuntu breezy on another hd03:50
_trojan_but kubuntu is slick03:51
erikstiwhat must I do to be able to select the gstreamer engine for amarok?  I have installed gstreamer but I can't chose in in the engine tab in amarok03:51
pradeeptoguys I installed df5 couple of days back, will apt-get dist-upgrade get the stuff from df6 too?03:51
erikstican only chose xine and aRts03:52
_trojan_pradeepto: if not just $sudo apt-get03:52
pradeeptohmmmm03:53
pradeeptothanks03:53
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_trojan_yep03:53
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erikstidid the package amarok-gstreamer get a new name or something, or replaced somehow?03:58
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marteriksti: I'm using pool-dapper/amarok-gstreamer_1.4-beta1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb03:59
martwhich I guess must be from kubuntu.org, rather than the main tree04:00
erikstido you have full url to it?04:01
marthttp://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta2/pool-dapper/04:01
martdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta2 dapper main04:01
martoh, wait04:02
martI'm using beta104:02
marteriksti: perhaps it's become amarok-engines?04:02
erikstiI have already installed amarok-engines and amarok-engine.. only have xine and aRts04:02
marteriksti: no, you're right, it definately seems to have gone somewhere...04:03
killiancan i upgrade from flight 4 to flight6?04:03
marteriksti: it's there in beta1, but not in beta2 :-S04:03
martbeta1 is at http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta1/pool-dapper/04:03
erikstiI'll try that one then04:04
marteriksti: I've been using it since it was released with no problems.04:04
not_even_timesharp3d.sourceforge.net04:05
not_even_time^-- Cool, but I cant get it to do anything04:05
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_trojan_noteventime: where did you get flight 6?04:07
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noteventime_trojan_: I'm using flight 5, but wait a minute I'll get the URL04:08
_trojan_thankyou04:08
noteventimehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/04:09
noteventimenp04:09
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marteriksti: from the changlelog:04:09
mart+  * In addition, and after a bit of chit-chat with upstream, follow their wishes and not package aKode at all (bye amarok-arts), and don't include GStreamer 0.10 support for now.04:09
visik7will be breezy -> dapper upgrade painless ?04:10
_trojan_visik7: yep04:10
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erikstimart: I'm trying the beta now, I had 1.3.9 earlier04:13
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visik7_trojan_:  but for example: apps using gstreamer 0.8 will work with gstreamer 0.10 ?04:14
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asranielno, like amarok that does not support gstreamer 0.10 atm04:14
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erikstiso which engines are you using for amaroK guys? I wanna listen to radio and I don't really care as long as it works04:15
_trojan_visik7: if not you just get both04:16
visik7:/04:16
visik7eriksti: I use xine with alsa04:16
marteriksti: xine, also04:16
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erikstiamarok starts hanging and stuff when I try to connect to a stream when using xine04:18
martneed to set a proxy?04:18
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eriksti_ah okay.. I've had my lap for 18 months and today I finally got wireless working.. radio worked when I got off wlan and used normal stuff04:21
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eriksti_wlan was a real pain, but rather easy once I found the solution.  Had to use this: http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tauber/acerhk/04:22
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martyes!!!! Isn't it great when someones already filed the bug for you :)04:23
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inc|freakyhi all. what is a good solution to remotely control a linux pc (KDE or completely) from a computer running windows xp?04:32
inc|freakyGUI04:32
KyralFreeNX? VNC?04:32
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inc|freakywhich one of these is better?04:32
KyralIMHO FreeNX04:33
Kyralbut like all things in this Open Source world, its a matter of opinion :P04:33
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m0ns00nAny good mysql editors for QT other than mysql-navigator04:37
m0ns00nmysql-cc isn't supported anymore and doesn't run stable..04:38
m0ns00nmysql-admin/query browser has black text hard coded, so I can't see it on a black background (I won't let the app dictate my color scheme that's just wrong =))04:38
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shoreflyerhi there, anyone ever got  hibernation working on kubuntu?04:44
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burepeI want to install Ktorrent 1.2 because my 1.0 doesn't work. 1.2 is not available in adept so could someone tell me how to install 1.2?04:48
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shoreflyerburepe: what repositories are in your sources file?04:53
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cryptoboatsHow do I find other channels?04:56
cryptoboatsThis is my 1st time using IRC04:56
MetaMorfoziS/list04:56
MetaMorfoziStype /list04:56
tristanmikebut that will list way too many04:56
MetaMorfoziSyes04:57
martcryptoboats: there's a link in the topic for ubuntu related bugs04:57
MetaMorfoziSthis is a big network04:57
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tristanmike!irc04:57
ubotu[irc]  info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat04:57
martthat's the one.04:57
MetaMorfoziSif you find one current, filter it04:57
MetaMorfoziSif your client support:04:57
MetaMorfoziS/list linux04:57
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tristanmikecheck out the wiki, it will give you a list of ubuntu releated irc rooms04:57
cryptoboatsthanks04:57
MetaMorfoziS/list ubuntu04:58
MetaMorfoziSfor all rooms that name contains *ubuntu*04:58
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burepeshoreflyer I have the latest kde repo but that didn't give me the 1.205:02
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vinboyhi05:12
vinboyis there anything similar to post-it note that I can stick on my desktop?05:12
martknotes05:12
vinboyor sticky note05:12
vinboyoh ok05:12
vinboythanks05:12
martvinboy: but the real thing is much more practical :)05:13
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vinboyi dislike the real thing :)05:13
vinboywaste of paper05:13
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martvinboy: if you use kontact, there's the "Notes" feature in that too.05:13
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vinboyi'll try the knotes first05:14
vinboykontact sound like a big app05:14
martyep.05:14
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tvossHi @ll05:15
tvossDoes anyone know if there's a kde-port of the dapper-gnome-icon-theme?05:15
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bknhi, is there anyone in here running kubuntu on a powerbook and has MOL running?05:17
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vinboyomg05:18
vinboyi'm so impressed with KDE's applications05:18
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nico8481hi05:54
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Snake__Riddell: Ping06:00
n3stormI had compiled an application and I don't know where the make install left the files06:01
n3stormthe app is working though06:01
Snake__ubotu: tell n3storm about checkinstall06:01
Snake__Use that from now on06:01
n3stormthanks ver much06:02
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Snake__Where can I get QT 1.4 Librarys06:10
ruedyhi, im a linux newbie an i need your help: how can i format a participation?06:11
Snake__How do you format a participation?06:11
Snake__You mean a Partition?06:11
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ruedypossible06:12
Snake__heh06:13
Snake__If your in windows, you need something like parition magic, if you in linux, use gparted06:13
ruedyok06:13
ruedy(what is gparted?)06:13
Snake__a program, are you in kubuntu right now?06:13
ruedyjep06:13
Snake__sudo apt-get install gparted06:14
Snake__Wait06:14
Snake__NO06:14
ruedycan i get this program with adept?06:14
Snake__Youll need to get a live disk, you cant have the hard drive mounted06:14
Snake__Do you have a ubuntu live?06:14
ruedy(is this a program too?)06:15
RiddellSnake__: hmm?06:15
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Snake__Riddell: I came across a program called kweather, and I need to know, how in the hell do programs that buggy make the repos????06:15
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Snake__!livecd06:15
Snake__ubotu: tell ruedy about livecd06:16
Snake__ruedy: get that06:16
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Snake__ruedy: get the Ubuntu Live cd, burn it, use it to parition your hard drive06:16
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RiddellSnake__: kweather is part of KDE06:17
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Snake__Riddell: Oh really.. I had to install >.<06:17
Snake__Riddell: Well am I the only one that noticed that is one of the buggiest programs in the whole of KDE?06:17
Snake__I know its only small, but wtf?06:18
vgeanyone know a little gui program that i know em i connected to net or not?06:18
RiddellSnake__: all patches happily accepted06:18
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Snake__Riddell: I wish I could code06:18
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Tm_T:)06:19
martinvge: type ifconfig in a console window. that'll give you information regarding IP etc06:19
vgei know i know06:20
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Snake__Tm_T: wawawa wahhtt??06:20
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vgei just need a program in taskbar that shows is my net down or up?06:20
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Tm_TSnake__: if you enjoy looking crashy buggy and unusable windows' then svn up!06:20
martinsudo apt-get install network-manager-kde (it's in Universe)06:20
Tm_T=)06:20
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Snake__Tm_T: ehhh.....no thanx k06:21
Snake__:)06:21
Tm_T=)06:21
Tm_Twhy not06:22
Tm_Tcome on, some fun06:22
Snake__Tm_T: anywhere I can get some offical screenies tho?06:22
Tm_Tofficial? =)06:22
Snake__Tm_T: ya as in, not concept art06:22
Tm_Thttp://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/blog/kde4-kate_01.png06:22
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Snake__Tm_T: intresting06:23
Tm_Tindeed06:23
Tm_TI'm trying to get kopete compiled06:24
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OdyXTm_T: I'm real bad tester.... The error/bug I gave you (not showing status messages) on Kopete was even a lack of option search. Really sorry.06:35
Tm_Thaha06:36
Tm_Tno worries06:36
xwingsHi Guys .. any idea on Dapper's VLC ? borken ?06:36
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DannyI'm back :)06:51
stanislavj #truehiphop06:51
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Flosofthey06:56
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Flosoftdoes anyone know a good Tag editor?06:56
ccc_Flosoft: id3 tags?06:56
Flosoftyes06:56
ccc_i use amarok, it does the job great06:56
DeeZiDamarok06:56
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Flosoftyes06:56
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Flosoftbut it does not rename files ... and the cddb is bad?  (MusicBrainz)06:57
FlosoftI gotta edit about 770 songs06:57
ccc_well you asked for a tag editor, not a file renamer :)06:58
Flosofttrue ... but the most important thing for me is a fast cddb06:58
Flosoftso I can quickly get all the tags06:58
Flosoftand Amarok is not that good in it06:59
ccc_works fine here, with 1.4 beta206:59
ccc_check out easytag, i think it's alright06:59
Flosofteasy tag is very slow ...06:59
FlosoftI tried that ..06:59
ccc_ok06:59
OdyXSomebody using Ifplugd successfully ?07:00
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alexnicolAnyone around?07:04
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burepehi07:06
burepe!japanese07:06
ubotuburepe: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:06
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dereks__how is the best way to mount a drive so all users have read/write access? what would the fstab entry lool like?07:07
misieqhi! i want to install kubuntu, however i have only kubuntu install cd and ubuntu install dvd (both are breezy). due to lack of space there is no gcc and numerous other useful packages on kubuntu cd. which is the better way to install kubuntu: install it from the dvd amd add kubuntu cd to apt and install kubuntu-desktop or rather start installation from kubuntu cd and install needed packages from ubuntu dvd?07:08
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tvossdereks__: /dev/hd*07:08
tvossdereks__: sorry ... :-) one moment:-)07:08
misieqdereks__: afaik there's option 'users'...07:09
dereks__tvoss: ok, thanks :)07:09
dereks__here is the fstab entry i have currently /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       007:09
tvossdereks__: /dev/hd*  /mountpoint fs-type( vfat, ext3 ) user, exec,umask=0000  0  007:09
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tristanmikemisieq: you can add "ubuntu" repos and and install from that, that should work for you07:09
dereks__so just add the user option?07:09
misieqtristanmike: so should i install from kubuntu cd or ubuntu dvd?07:10
tvossdereks__: right07:10
dereks__do i need the umask?07:10
tvossdereks__: and i would add the umask-entry as well07:10
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dereks__ok07:10
dereks__whats it do?07:10
misieqi'd like to have both, kde and gnome, however i'd rather like to start kde by default07:10
tristanmikemisieq: if I understand you right, I'd install using the Kubuntu CD then when it's install, edit your sources.list file to include Ubuntu repos, then install what you want from there, after Kubuntu is installed07:10
tvossdereks__: umask specifies the octet mask of bytes that are _not_ set07:10
frank23misieq: if you have a decent internet connection, it doesn't matter. everything is available whit the repositories07:10
tristanmikemisieq: oh, that's easy then07:10
dereks__ok07:11
tvossdereks__: umask=0000 just means no byte is not set -> everything is allowed for everyone07:11
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dereks__tvoss: is there a way to "reload" fstab?07:11
tristanmikemisieq: just install Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu, it will ask you which one you want to make default07:11
misieqfrank23: can u call 256kbps dwon a decent connection? ;)07:11
dereks__to check if it worked07:11
misieq*down07:11
tvossdereks__: just unmount the drive and then mount again ...07:11
frank23misieq: much better that modem ;)07:11
dereks__tvoss: will that use the fstab settings?07:12
misieqfrank23: used to have one like 2 years ago...07:12
tristanmikemisieq: you might be able to just add the ubuntu dvd line to your sources.list and pull files from there that way too, that way you won't have to download it, but I've never tried it that way myself07:12
tvossdereks__: for sure ... mount always acts on the current fstab settings.07:12
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dereks__tvoss: it didn't07:12
tvossdereks__: could you post the line of fstab again? as well as the command you used to mount the device?07:13
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tristanmikemisieq: is my way no good to you?07:14
dereks__tvoss: fstab-"/dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,user,umask,exec 0       0"07:14
dereks__tvoss: command-"0"07:14
dereks__tvoss: command-" [13:14]  [dereks__(+i)]  [6:#kubuntu(+cn)]  [Act: 1,3,5,7,8] 07:14
dereks__sorry bout that07:14
dereks__tvoss: command="sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1/"07:14
nukyhey, what to do you use for viewing .svgz and .svg files? is there a .svg or .svgz plugin for gwenview? cos i can't view svg files other than with konqueror which crashes sometimes..07:14
tvossdereks__: you have to remove defaults from your line and specify 'umask=0000'07:15
dereks__tvoss: why don't we want defaults?07:15
tvossdereks__: and try 'mount /mnt/sdb1' without sudo!07:15
dereks__haha07:15
dereks__ok07:15
misieqerrrr... i accidentally just brought up some window called 'katapult' what does that do and how do i bring it up again?07:16
dereks__tvoss: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1/07:16
dereks__mount: only root can do that07:16
tvossdereks__: I'm not completely sure but i think 'defaults' defaults to write-protected for normal users.07:16
frank23misieq: alt-space07:16
tvossdereks__: just try 'mount /mnt/sdb1'07:16
frank23misieq: you can type an app name or document name to open it quickly07:16
tristanmikemisieq: it allows you to start a program without searching the menus07:17
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tvossdereks__: the way you try to do doesn't look up the settings in fstab07:17
misieqoh... that's nice :)07:17
tristanmikemisieq: just push "alt + space" and start typing say, amaroK07:17
tristanmikemisieq: i know, it's great :)07:17
dereks__tvoss: mount /mnt/sdb1/07:17
dereks__mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so07:17
tvossdereks__: that's a little better already ... mount tried to get the mount options from fstab:-)07:18
alexnicolCan anyone help07:18
misieqtristanmike: however i don't think i'm going to use that much on my p2 350 and integrated video card... it's sort of... slow07:18
tvossdereks__: are you sure your drive is formatted with ext3 filesystem??07:19
alexnicolI've managed to balls up my task bar07:19
tvossdereks__: You are trying to mount a usb-stick?07:19
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alexnicolI've lost the system train and the bar for programs07:19
tristanmikemisieq: too bad, it's a neat little thingy :P07:19
dereks__tvoss: Apr  2 13:18:20 localhost kernel: [5829904.460000]  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=000" or missing value07:19
alexnicollooking into the system settings and I cant find where to add it again07:19
alexnicolany ideas?07:19
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dereks__tvoss: i am sure07:19
dereks__tvoss: not a usb key07:19
dereks__the fstab worked before07:19
tvossdereks__: 'umask=0000' four "0"07:19
alexnicolignore that07:20
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tristanmikealexnicol: right click on a panel "add to panel - Panel - Panel07:20
tristanmike"07:20
dereks__tvoss: still no dice07:20
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dereks__ tvoss: Apr  2 13:19:27 localhost kernel: [5829971.958000]  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=0000" or missing value07:20
misieqtristanmike: any other cool eyecandies you can suggest? (i'm installing kubuntu right now on a bit more powerful machine right now)07:20
tvossdereks__: *Confused* Could you give your line from fstab once again??07:21
tristanmikemisieq: you can try umm...what's it called, superkaramba07:21
dereks__tvoss: /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    errors=remount-ro,user,umask=0000,exec 0           007:21
tristanmikemisieq: that's a nice one07:21
misieqtristanmike: mhm, that's nice one. i know also yakuake. is it useful?07:22
tristanmikeyeah, i just installed yakuake and I use it all the time07:22
tristanmikethanx Snake__ ;)07:22
DeeZiDI use it, too07:22
DeeZiDnice program :)07:22
misieqtristanmike: and erm... k... like expose in mac.. what's the name?07:22
DeeZiDscale in compiz :D07:22
tristanmikeI just don't like how it doesn't have "true" transparency07:22
tvossdereks__: alright ... one moment please!07:23
Snake__tristanmike: then go get XGL and stfu :P07:23
dereks__tvoss: ok07:23
misieqSnake__: i'm looking forward to XGL since i saw novell's presentation of it's features on google video.. mmmmmm :)07:24
Snake__misieq: I used it, its awesome07:24
DeeZiDworks great here :D07:24
misieqwhat distro did you use?07:24
DeeZiDkubuntu dapper, AMD 2200+, Geforce6600GT07:24
tvossdereks__: try removing 'umask=0000'07:24
Snake__Dapper07:24
tristanmikeBreezy07:25
misieqyou think it might work on gf2 400 64mb + AXP1800+ qith 768 ram?07:25
Snake__Sure07:25
tristanmikeDapper is broken, and will most likely break07:25
DeeZiDmhh, Xv wont work great with that card, but the rest should be ok :)07:25
Snake__DeeZiD: xv?07:25
DeeZiDXvideo07:26
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tristanmikeit's one of the video modes07:26
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Snake__DeeZiD: which plug in is that?07:26
tristanmikeSnake__: yeah, try mplayer07:26
misieqi'm awaiting official dapper to test xgl... and by the time it gets final i think of trying it on suse...07:26
dereks__tvoss: i tried that, it mounted fine, but didn't give non root users read/write07:26
tristanmikeme too misieq07:26
DeeZiDXvideo? It is hardware acceleration of video07:26
Snake__misieq: you can get the kororaa live cd with it07:26
Snake__DeeZiD: oh >.<07:26
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Snake__:)07:26
tvossdereks__: than one last little addition to the options: 'rw'07:26
DeeZiDSnake__: kororaa is old :p07:26
Snake__DeeZiD: dun matter, its still xgl fun07:27
DeeZiD:D07:27
misieqkororaa? where can i get it? :)07:27
DeeZiDbut the old xgl version didn't work well with nvidia ;)07:27
dereks__tvoss: permission denied07:27
Snake__misieq: goooooooggglllle traaiinn!107:27
DeeZiDand compiz had many problems in kde07:27
Snake__wooo woooo!!07:27
Snake__:)07:27
tristanmikehttp://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-18120307:27
tvossdereks__: permission denied??07:28
Snake__ubotu: needs a built in google search07:28
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snake__07:28
DeeZiDAnd if compiz works you should try cairo-clock :D07:28
denHi - what's the best way to install Skype?  I see many confilicting things from a google search.  I'm using Dapper Kubuntu.  Is there an "official" kubuntu page about doing this?07:28
dereks__tvoss: yea07:28
tristanmike!skype07:28
ubotuI guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/07:28
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tvossdereks__: While adding the option 'rw' to fstab??07:28
dereks__yea07:28
tvossdereks__: try again editing the file with sudo!07:29
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dentristanmike: If you're not a bot you are _very_ fast! :)07:29
dereks__tvoss: i have bben07:29
zblachquick question. how can I automatically backup a partition?07:29
tvossdereks__: Would you mind trying once again?07:29
Snake__den: hes our interpreitor bot07:29
dereks__trying what?07:29
tristanmikeSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ den07:29
Snake__den: then he sends commands to ubotu07:29
tristanmike:P07:30
Snake__its a sweet set up07:30
Snake__tristanmike: halt operation 007:30
Snake__anyone know skype?07:30
misieq4 hours left to test xgl :)07:30
Snake__tristanmike: start operation 007:30
Snake__anyone know skype?07:30
tristanmike!skype07:30
ubotu[skype]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/07:30
DeeZiDyes07:30
tvossSnake__: For sure ...07:30
Snake__w00t07:30
DeeZiDbut doesn't work well (oss)07:30
denSnake__: :)07:31
Snake__Where can I get the live cd?07:31
tristanmike!livecd07:31
tristanmike!+livecd07:31
ubotulivecd is, like, totally, useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it or making any changes to your system. grab one from the download page at http://www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.  To remaster your own, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo .07:31
Snake__<307:31
Snake__I'm gonna go set up xgl07:32
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tristanmike!xgl07:32
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/07:32
denSnake__: Is tristanmike's program (personality, not plumbing) available somewhere?07:32
Snake__den: Its open source, so I would assume so07:32
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Snake__den: not really sure where07:33
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Snake__LOl07:33
Snake__I LOVE THIS BOT07:33
Snake__den: hes our newest addition :)07:33
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denSnake__: Who maintains it, or who whould know about it's code?07:33
dereks__tvoss: out of suggestions?07:33
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=== tristanmike all your tristanmikes are belong to us
zblachkubuntu have anything for backups?07:34
Snake__den: I really not sure :( I wish I knew tho, I wouldn't mind his code either07:34
Snake__I bet his source is amazing tho07:34
tristanmike!backup07:34
ubotuFor information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311 Available packages for backing up are backuppc (web based), backup2l, backup-manager, backupninja, bkp, bacula amongst others07:34
denSnake__: :)07:34
tvossdereks__: Not at all:-) I asked, if you would mind trying to add 'rw' once again.-)07:34
tristanmike!source07:34
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:34
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Snake__tristanmike: you were delayed fool!!!!07:35
Snake__!lart tr07:35
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Snake__!lart tristanmike07:35
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zblachwell, backup isn't exactly what I meant. what I mean is more like this:07:35
zblachi have a 40gig partition, and a seperate 40 gig hdd. how, when I write to that partition, can I write to the other hdd simultaneously?07:36
denDoes anyone here using any VOIP, or voice chat sw?07:36
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tristanmike!skype07:38
ubotuskype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/07:38
misieqzblach: what you want is raid type 1 or 007:39
tristanmike!raid07:39
ubotusomebody said raid was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto07:39
zblachmisieq: i thought it was raid, but does that work for partition > hdd? i thought it was hdd>hdd only07:39
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misieqzblach: don't ask me, i'm not the expert. however try that link provided by ubotu - it may be useful07:40
zblachmisieq: his link is more about hardware and existing raid07:41
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denAnyone here use Ekiga/GnomeMeeting for voice or video conference?07:42
tristanmike!ekiga07:42
ubotu[ekiga]  full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.07:42
misieqzblach: then i have no idea... i don't now if this exists, but you want some 'double-mounted' partition07:43
Snake__tristanmike: who owns you07:43
tristanmikeYou do Snake__07:43
Snake__....07:43
Tm_T=)07:44
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Tm_Tkids...07:44
misieqzblach: why don't you ask in #ubuntu?07:44
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Snake__den: I found his source, want it?07:47
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Snake__u alive?07:48
Snake__lol07:48
denSnake: Txh - actually, tristanmike told me what I wanted - the url here:  Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ den07:48
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Snake__den: ah, well thats not the source tho, I got what runs tristanmike07:49
denSnake: yes, thanks though! :)07:49
Snake__hehe07:50
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zblachalright. i've read a few tutorials, but they don't really cover what I'm trying to do. I'm only interested in backing up my /home directory (seperate partition)07:53
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firewireso... back it up07:54
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zblachfirewire: that's exactly what i'm interested in doing07:54
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Snake__zblach: why not just have dcop cp it at a certain time every night?07:55
zblachSnake__: wouldn07:55
zblach't that kill my drive really fast?07:55
Snake__mmmm cant say for certain07:56
firewirezblach: so do it07:57
firewirecopy it somewhere else07:58
firewireor use tar to copy and compress it07:58
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slow-motionn808:11
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Dannycan anyone help with my networking in kubuntu?08:12
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P3L|C4N0greetings08:16
__StarScreamhey ll08:16
__StarScreamall08:16
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n3stormhi everyone08:17
__StarScreamhey n3storm08:18
vgehow do i change what my forward/backward mousebuttons does? they work, but i cant assing functions to em?08:19
tristanmike!mouse08:20
ubotumouse is probably Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev08:20
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__StarScream!seen mhall08:23
ubotumhall <n=mhall@uop-9-213.pacific.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-bots, 15h 33m 24s ago, saying: '~gensplash'.08:23
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ricardoHey gus, im having a problems with some windows here, no, not the OS, cause some of them dont fit the screen size, theyre bigger, and i cant resize them, any clue?08:25
tristanmikeright click the title bar and select resize ?08:25
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ricardoI tried this, but doesnt work at all08:27
n3stormricardo: what application is that?08:29
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ricardoIts not an application, is some operational windows, like the printer setup, and some others at system configuration08:30
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srednaricardo: The ability to resize windows can be set as an argument to the X server, and in some cases it's undesirable seen from the programmers POV08:31
srednaricardo: You can move the windows using ALT + left mouse button08:32
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ricardosredna, no, that didnt work either08:33
srednaricardo: That is the default action, but it can be changed, and if you are not using KWIN it's not nessecarily supported by your window manager08:34
ricardoNo, the alt +left button works, but the windows remains the same size, thas was before, i can let the window bigger, an then let smaller, but not more than i have now08:36
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n3stormricardo, which resolution is your screen?08:47
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staaleHi everyone, Im a total newb in kubuntu. I would like to know howto adjust the screen resolution? Any idea?08:48
ricardo1024X76808:48
staalericardo: yes08:48
staaleanyone any idea?08:50
staaleCmn ppls08:50
MetaMorfoziS!resolution08:50
ubotufrom memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:50
MetaMorfoziSwhere it uses "gedit" you may use nano08:51
MetaMorfoziSgedit and nano is texteditors08:51
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staaleMetaMorfoziS: ok08:51
MetaMorfoziSbut gedit is gnome-based nano is a cmdline texteditor08:51
n3stormricardo: which version of ubuntu are you using?08:52
ricardoKubuntu 5.1008:52
staaleMetaMorfoziS:08:53
staalestaale@lilminime:~$ sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'08:53
staalesh: /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum: No such file or directory08:53
staaleI'm Using kubuntu with KDE not ubuntu with gnome08:53
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staalewhat do i do to set default scrn res?08:54
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ricardoso n3storm, any clue?08:55
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n3stormmmm, ricardo, is quite strange08:55
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ricardou tell me?? :D08:56
n3stormXD08:56
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n3stormricardo, are you there?08:57
ricardoyeah08:57
staaleCan enyone plz help me?08:57
n3stormricardo: can you reach the configure window behaviour08:57
RaRerandom qustion: do you sometimes run a program (kwrite, firefox, konq, etc.) and it loads for a long time, and after a certain time the program just don't run and the loading bar is gone08:58
n3stormright click on the window title08:58
nico8481RaRe: it often happens to me with kaffeine, although the first time i run it it usually runs fine08:59
ricardoRaRe, it happened once08:59
burepeReRe I am just having that with firefox08:59
burepeit won't start08:59
ricardoYes n3storm08:59
RaReoh thanx :D just wondering if it's something i did with my kubuntu08:59
RaReis this a bug?08:59
burepejust started happening08:59
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burepeI don't know. I want to know how to fix it.09:00
RaReit usually happens when im doing a lot of stuffs09:00
ricardothis windows is also bigger than the screen size n3storm09:00
n3stormricardo: go to actions09:00
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IamEthoshey09:01
IamEthosI'm stuck in a shell09:01
IamEthosrunning irssi09:01
IamEthosbecause X can't start09:01
IamEthosI just installed KDE09:01
IamEthosand now I seem to be in some trouble09:01
ricardowhere is that? n3storm09:02
n3stormis the second icon on the left09:02
IamEthosI think I can get the error messages if someone can tell me how to get to a terminal without exiting irssi and how to run x09:02
n3storm(i am translating)09:02
staalehanks for all great support people (ironic)09:02
Snake__IamEthos: type Alt+Ctrl F209:03
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ricardoAt setup desktop?09:04
n3stormRicardo: just to be sure, have you changed your window decorations?09:04
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ricardoYes, but the problems was here before09:04
n3stormricardo, nop I mean right click over the window title09:04
MilaNLHello :) My internet connection doesn't work in Dapper Drake09:04
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ricardoi see09:06
n3stormyou see the actions icon now?09:07
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ricardoNo, i think im the wrong place09:08
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IamEthoswell09:10
IamEthosthat is interesting09:10
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ricardoCan we restart n3storm?09:12
n3stormyeap09:12
IamEthosokay09:12
IamEthosnow, how do I start X?09:12
IamEthosor restart it as the case may be09:12
tristanmike"startx"09:12
n3stormclick with the right buttom of your mouse on any window title09:12
n3stormsudo /etc/init.d/kdm start09:13
n3stormIamEthos: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start09:13
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ricardosetup window behavior? i found n3storm09:14
n3stormricardo: yes09:14
n3stormnow09:14
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IamEthosn3storm: kdm command not found09:15
n3stormtell me what is the name of the window decoration09:15
n3stormIamEthos: apt-get install kdm09:15
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IamEthosn3storm: that's what got me into this mess in the first place09:15
ricardon3storm, KDE209:15
n3stormplease choose plastik by the moment, ok?09:16
ricardook09:16
n3stormthen go to actions09:16
ricardook09:17
burepeMy firefox stopped working. Can anyone tell me how to fix it? I click the icon and it tries to load and nothing happens.09:17
n3stormburepe: open a konsole and run firefox09:17
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n3stormricardo: what do you have on double click?09:18
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ricardomaximize09:18
n3stormok09:18
n3stormand on maximize button?09:19
burepen3storm, nothing happens.09:19
n3stormcan you read anything?09:19
n3stormburepe?09:19
burepeyeah09:19
burepeno09:19
burepenothing09:20
n3stormricardo click with the right buttom of your mouse on the maximize buttom of a window09:20
n3stormburepe: have you restarted your x window session?09:20
burepeI have 3 occurances of firefox-bin09:20
burepewould restarting the session do that?09:21
n3stormburepe: killall firefox-bin09:21
n3stormburepe yes09:21
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burepeI have done that  a bunch09:21
ricardon3storm, on miximize buton: left buttom cross, middle buttom, up-donw, right buttom left-right, sizes09:22
n3stormricardo: can you use those actions on your windows?09:22
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ricardoJust a little09:23
n3stormmmm09:23
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burepen3storm this is what I got09:23
burepesudo touch ~/.gnome2/session-manual09:23
burepeecho "[Default] " >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual09:23
burepeecho "num_clients=1" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual09:23
burepeecho "0,RestartStyleHint=3" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual09:23
burepeecho "0,Priority=50" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual09:23
burepeecho "0,RestartCommand=scim -d" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual09:24
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burepeecho "0,Program=scim" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual09:24
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burepesorry, little more than I thought it was09:24
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n3stormricardo, does it work for you ctrl+alt+Plus"+" of the numerickeyboard?09:24
_robertDoes anyone know why kubuntu insists on reseting itself to 640x480 resolution every time I reboot?09:24
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_robertAnd forgets that I've reconfigured it up to at least 1024x768?09:25
ricardoit seems that the window have a minimun size, that i cant go further09:25
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n3stormricardo, one idea09:25
n3stormcreate a new user09:25
ricardon3storm, yes it works09:25
n3stormand log in as the new user09:25
n3stormricardo have you recently made an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade?09:26
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bobbleHi, I'm looking for a recommendation for a good ftp daemon, easy to use in KDE etc09:26
ricardoupdate yes, today, when i got my nvidia driver, but the problem was alread here09:27
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_robertIs there any way to permanently set the maxiumum resolution for a 19" monitor?09:29
n3stormricardo, when did everything started?09:29
ricardoWhen i installed the kubuntu09:30
burepen3storm, any ideas on that firfox error?09:30
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n3stormburepe, have you alredy done the "killall firefox-bin"?09:32
burepeyeah09:32
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n3stormburepe: don't know what to say09:32
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n3stormricardo: don't know what to say :)09:33
n3storm:(09:33
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burepeI just got it to start with command line. Strange.09:33
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n3stormburepe: so it's working now?09:34
burepelooks like I am back in business09:34
burepeyeah09:34
burepedon't know why.09:35
n3stormburepe: you killed firefox processes that got stucked somehow09:35
n3stormtoo much flash animations in your navigation ;)?09:35
ricardon3storm, thanks man i ll look at forums!09:36
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n3stormricardo: goodlook09:37
n3stormricardo: good luck :)09:37
ricardon3estorm, thx09:37
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vgedang i love when i get something to work :P09:39
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vgealltought somebody may say that getting your thumbuttons to work is easy :)09:39
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slow-motionre09:46
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mrproperdoes the live cd always use the "vesa" driver or does it use something else when the driver is supported?09:56
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ricardohey killall kdm-panel is the kde version of killall gnome-panel?09:59
burepeI am trying to install japanese input and I am following faq but I am getting permission denied errors10:01
burepelike this10:02
burepe echo 'export XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM"' >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup10:02
burepeecho 'export GTK_IM_MODULE="scim"' >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup10:02
burepeecho 'export XIM_PROGRAM="scim -d"' >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup10:02
burepeecho 'export QT_IM_MODULE="scim"' >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup10:02
burepesudo chmod 644 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup10:02
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burepeAny suggestions?10:03
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mrproperis this release of dapper the final one?10:06
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naliothmrproper: it is not.10:08
_harmi cant get any sound while playing video stuff in konqeurer10:08
naliothmrproper: it will release June 1st10:08
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fatejudgerhow do I use this new "Kerry" search tool?10:09
xanzaAnyone know if CS is Linux native?10:09
fatejudgerCS?10:09
_harmxanza i got it to work with wine10:09
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xanzaCounter Strike10:09
fatejudgerah10:09
xanzaHumm...10:09
_harmbut sometimes it just freezes for a couple of seconds :S might be driver10:09
xanzaMaby.10:10
xanzaDo you use Wine, or WineX?10:10
fatejudgerWine should run it fairly well10:10
fatejudgerand winex doesn't exist anymore10:10
_harmWine10:10
fatejudgeronly Cedega10:10
xanzai figured as much.10:10
xanzak thanks.10:10
_harmwww.linux-gamers.net has a tut10:10
xanzalol ya i was just there. :)10:10
_harmjust also place the font in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts10:10
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xanzaAhh10:11
xanzak thanks. :D10:11
xanzaOh, is CS a good game?10:11
_harmyes10:12
_harm... omg its the best10:12
_harmits that or starcraft for me :p10:12
_harmcs1.5 was good aswell10:12
_harmbut anyone know how i can get sound from internet video;s?10:12
xanzalol10:13
xanzahumm..10:13
xanzayou have to be careful, some times they dont work for me either. lol.10:13
xanzabut i was just at google video, and it works for me there.10:13
xanzaTry that out.10:13
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xanzaAlso, if you have an integrated sound card, it might not support multi sound.10:14
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fatejudgerxanza: it should10:16
burepeCan anyone help with Japanese input?10:16
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burepeDriving me crazy.10:16
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nukyhi, i was wandering if anyone could help me, i set my fstab to mount a partition on a second drive to /home/inuka/main/ but when i do df -Th /home/inuka/main, it tells me that it is on a different partition! my situation is shown here in terminal commands, http://pastebin.com/636440  any help would be greatly appreciated!10:21
arrinmurrburepe: i guess that should be possible with scim?10:22
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arnany one setup a scanner in dapper yet?10:26
arnscsi scanner10:26
xanzaAnyone know were i can download a counter strike (linux native) demo?10:26
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temiHey im getting an "Unexpected return code: 127" while running EasyBreezy. Anyone know what im doing wrong?10:38
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wordI'm trying to use the tutorial to install Shockwave ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-6ec2118de3b2280f446b008e04177f50de6a9a45 ) and it seems to be made for ubuntu...so what should I u se instead of gedit?10:44
arnkate10:45
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wordWhen I did that it said kate has crashed blah blah10:45
arndid you do it as sudo, word?10:45
wordyup10:46
arnhmm10:46
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temiHey im getting an "Unexpected return code: 127" while running EasyBreezy. Anyone know what im doing wrong?10:46
wordI'm going to try andsee if restarting the session will do anything be back in a bit10:46
arncan you just run kate?10:46
wordI was able to....but it doesn't look like it anymore 15 seconds into trying to  load it up...nope10:47
arngedit is just a text editor, you should be able to use any text editor10:47
arnvi, kate, etc10:47
wordok i'll brb and see if restarting the session fixes anything10:47
temiAnyone know how to use easybreezy?10:48
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PeirCan I jump in with a quick question?10:48
temican you?10:49
PeirJust set up Kubuntu for the first time, never got an option to set up a root password.  Does it have a default or did I miss a step somewhere?10:49
temiyou missed a step10:49
arnno root user10:49
Peirsorry, first time in here, wasn't sure about rules10:49
temiit asks you twice10:49
arntemi is teasing10:49
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temilol10:50
arnyou use sudo for most commands and your password will work for administrative purposes10:50
temiWhen you install kubuntu it asks you to enter one after yo uenter your name10:50
word"/var/tmp/kdecache-word" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.10:50
wordLink points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"10:50
arnnot a root password temi10:50
temioh10:50
wordI get that error when I run the command again10:51
temiwell thats what he asked for..10:51
arn<Peir> Just set up Kubuntu for the first time, never got an option to set up a root password.  Does it have a default or did I miss a step somewhere?10:51
arnroot password10:51
PeirWhen I ran the installer, it asked me to set up another user account, other than root.  At which point I entered a user name, login, and password for that user.    That login doesnt work for administrative purposes10:51
arndunno word10:51
wordwierd....10:52
arnit should Peir10:52
arnwhat are you trying to do that needs admin?10:52
Peirnetworking.  Wont let me do it under normal user login10:52
PeirI may be mistyping something though.10:53
wordLol arn I just navigated to the file and right clicked -> open as root and it works10:53
arnsweet, word10:53
arn:)10:53
PeirPerhaps I need to go back and just screw around with it.  Or threaten it until it works.10:53
wordthanks :D10:53
PeirAnyway, thanks.10:53
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arnnp10:53
temiDoes anyone know how to run easybreezy?10:56
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MetaMorfoziSeasybreezy is a different program?10:57
MetaMorfoziSwhat is it?10:57
ryanakca!easybreezy10:59
uboturumour has it, easybreezy is a dead project now, although still available at easybreezy.robotgeek.org - you should check out easyubuntu. Ask me.10:59
temiits fro robotgeek10:59
ryanakcatemi: try easyubuntu10:59
temiya i heard10:59
ryanakcatell temi about easyubuntu11:00
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pwolfequick question if anyone can help.  How do I give konsole read/write access to PTY devices?11:03
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pwolfejoin #streamtuner11:06
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bdmpMy power cut out and now when I log in to kubuntu it just loops me back to the log in screen. I can get to the failsafe log in but I don't know what to do once I get there. How can I fix this?11:07
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fatejudgersomehow ubotus listing for the qt includes got removed11:16
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fatejudgerdoes anyone know the package for qt includes?11:17
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Chousukelibqt-dev or something similar.11:18
hugelmopf!qt11:18
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package11:18
fatejudgerhugelmopf: thanks11:18
hugelmopfbdmp: you can login at the failsafe login? what about starting kdm from there with "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"? it's difficult to solve your problem like this, you'll have to poke around.11:20
bdmpI was installing something when the power cut out. Could that be the reason it won't start?11:22
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bdmpIm gonna try what you said, one sec11:22
hugelmopfbdmp: what did you install?11:23
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hugelmopfbdmp: you can login at the failsafe prompt and finish your install, probably by doing "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if it was an upgrade.11:23
bdmpkdm already running11:24
bdmpI was installing uim for japanese input11:25
bdmpit said kdm is already running11:25
hugelmopfbdmp: you can try "restart" instead of "start", but most likely it won't help. you will need to fix whatever you tried to install.11:26
hugelmopfbdmp: try for example "sudo apt-get --reinstall install uim"11:28
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bdmpoki11:28
possiehello i have a problem installing mythgame, i get the messages: mythgame: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but it is not installable    anyone know how i can fix this?11:28
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Sergi0possie: does this only happen with mythgame? or with the other plugins also?11:30
hugelmopfpossie: seems like a bug in that package? it should probably depend on libqt3-mt?11:30
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possiehugelmopf, ah okee11:30
hugelmopfpossie: just my guess though. there is no easy way for you to fix it.11:31
Sergi0possie: it could (just a small hope) be a mirror?11:31
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hugelmopfpossi: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mythgame/+bug/3748411:31
hugelmopfpossie: ^^ there it is11:31
Sergi0hugelmopf: ah11:31
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possiehugelmopf, thans a lot! how did you find it so fast?11:32
rosariobuenas!!11:32
Sergi0hmm why is only version 0.18 in the repros? version 0.19.1 is the latest stable11:33
hugelmopfpossie: and the same here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mythgame/+bug/537111:33
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possiehugelmopf, so i guess it's just waiting until it gets fixed right?11:34
hugelmopfpossie: i searched for mythgame in launchpad https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs11:35
hugelmopfpossie: that will probably last til dapper.11:35
ryanakcaI should be able to go "mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0", right?11:35
hugelmopfryanakca: try pmount or use it with sudo11:35
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ryanakcahugelmopf: hmmm... fd0 doesn't exist... fb0 exists, as well as fb...11:36
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hugelmopfryanakca: probably /dev/fd/0 ? i don't have a floppy drive anymore...11:37
ryanakcahugelmopf: nope...11:38
possiehugelmopf, damn :-)11:38
possiehugelmopf, was there a release date for dapper allready?11:38
hugelmopfpossie: june 111:39
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hugelmopfpossie: you can install libqt3c-mt (and the other dependencies) manually and then force the installation of mythgame. but as soon as you want to install something else, you will have to remove mythgame and force-install it afterwards again.11:40
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possiehugelmopf, --force-yes ? :-)11:44
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nouse66i've got wine .9.10 installed and when i try to run winecfg or a windows program like dvdshrink it just sits there for several minutes before anything comes up.  anyone know what causes that?11:51
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Rayman!wlan11:54
ubotuRayman: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:54
Rayman!wireless11:54
ubotusomebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers11:54
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rdthello, folks11:58
temiyo11:58
rdtI have a question - whats the easiest way to upgrade from flight-5 to flight-6 ?11:59
declanoHi guys. I stupidly upgraded from breezy to dapper and now x server xorg is not working11:59
declanocan anyone help?11:59
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