[12:12] <staale> hi. I have this major problem; Im a total newbie to Linux especsially when it comes to Ubuntu. I have installed Cedega (newest version), I got a nVidia Point Of View Geforce 6800 Ultra grapich card, witch should manage Battlefield 2 running on Cedega. But the vesa grapicard drivers where automaticly installed during the debian/ubuntu installer configureing the system. I have now found out i need the nvidia drivers. So i tried to do "sudo
[12:12] <slow-motion> n8
[12:13] <staale> Someone... Please?
[12:14] <Tm_T> staale: oh well
[12:14] <Tm_T> !nvidia
[12:14] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:16] <staale> Tm_T: I think you misunderstood me... My problem is that i can't do any "apt-get install" because it says that cedega, wich was the last application installed, is depending on a package.. I dont care about cedega package anymore, cuz cedega works, i forced it to by typing "sudo dpkg -force -i /path/to/cedega...
[12:17] <staale> Tm_T: Do you see my problem here?
[12:17] <Tm_T> well
[12:17] <Tm_T> use kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:17] <staale> hmm
[12:17] <Tm_T> and paste output of "apt-get upgrade"
[12:17] <Tm_T> sudo of course
[12:18] <staale> Tm_T: Im in the command-line, and as i said before, im a total newb, dunno how to paste or even get to pastbin by the commandline...
[12:18] <Tm_T> hm
[12:18] <staale> Tm_T: As you may understand, im not in kde
[12:18] <Tm_T> aaaah
[12:18] <Tm_T> now I see
[12:18] <staale> Im in x running irssi
[12:18] <Tm_T> irssi <3
[12:18] <staale> Tm_T: Totaly agree:)
[12:19] <Tm_T> ah, norge
[12:19] <staale> Tm_T: yes, you too?
[12:19] <Tm_T> nope, Finland
[12:19] <Tm_T> staale: ok, I need to know exact error you have
[12:19] <staale> Tm_T: Aight, well, im a 15 year old student from norway, so sory for my bad english
[12:20] <Tm_T> no problemo
[12:20] <Tm_T> your english is just fine
[12:20] <staale> Tm_T: It tells me that cedega depends on xlibs.. But for me it makes no sense
[12:21] <staale> Tm_T: because I'm not trying to install cedega, im trying to install nvidia-glx...
[12:21] <Tm_T> yeah, that's why I need to know exact error, "It tells me that cedega depends on xlibs" doesn't tell me much ;)
[12:21] <Kyral> Hehe Lilo is evil
[12:22] <Tm_T> it prolly means cedega isn't installed, because it's missing xlibs package
[12:22] <Tm_T> Kyral: indeed
[12:22] <staale> Tm_T: As you allready know, im in X cuz i did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i chose nv drivers, so kde wont run...
[12:22] <Kyral> Surely everyone got the PMSG from him :D
[12:23] <Tm_T> well, I got the messages, but those are not PMSG:s
[12:23] <staale> Tm_T: Cedega is installed, and working. I know that because ive tested it. Thats why i need nvidia drivers, my game wont run with vesa drivers...
[12:23] <Kyral> hmm
[12:23] <Tm_T> staale: then apt-get shouldn't whine about cedega anymore
[12:23] <Kyral> how am I using 100 less MB of RAM with Arch under the same conditions as Ubuntu...
[12:23] <Tm_T> Kyral: because it's not the same
[12:24] <Tm_T> Kyral: also, how you measure it
[12:24] <Kyral> Tm_T: same way
[12:24] <Kyral> I used free
[12:24] <staale> Tm_T: But it does... Maybe its because i forced it?
[12:24] <Tm_T> staale: how you forced?
[12:24] <Kyral> I know, prolly because Arch is only starting the services I need to run the computer :P
[12:24] <Tm_T> Kyral: and what numbers you were looking from output of free?
[12:24] <staale> Tm_T: Cedega whined about xlibs package.. So I did --force install
[12:25] <Kyral> the +/- buffers/cache
[12:25] <Kyral> the one I always look at
[12:25] <staale> and now cedega runs fine..
[12:25] <Tm_T> Kyral: oh, and you look only the first number there?
[12:25] <Kyral> also I don't have Cedega
[12:25] <Tm_T> staale: ah, there you go
[12:25] <Kyral> err
[12:25] <Kyral> DAMN YOU!
[12:25] <Kyral> I meant to say a DM running
[12:25] <staale> Kyral: Please behave..
[12:26] <Kyral> staale: it was in joking
[12:26] <Kyral> jeez
[12:26] <Tm_T> :)
[12:26] <staale> Kyral: okey:P Fine then:)
[12:26] <Tm_T> staale: he's behaving pretty fine :)
[12:26] <Tm_T> staale: anyway, forcing is not good, especially when you don't know what you're doing ;)
[12:26] <staale> Tm_T: Relaxe. Its me, I haven't slept in about 24 hours
[12:27] <staale> Tm_T: Cant do anything about it now, done is done;P
[12:27] <Tm_T> staale: my advise is to remove cedega, install nvidia drivers, test them, after that installcedega again
[12:27] <staale> Tm_T: It must be a way to clean it
[12:27] <staale> Tm_T: Okey, I will trie that, thanks for the advice... Bye.
[12:27] <Tm_T> staale: np
[12:28] <Tm_T> whoo, happy customer <3
[12:28] <Tm_T> Kyral: what's up
[12:28] <Dasnipa`> too expensive
[12:29] <Kyral> Tm_T: I was gonna say "DM" but he put "Cedega" in my mind
[12:29] <Dasnipa`> 15$ is too expensive?
[12:29] <Dasnipa`> crazy
[12:29] <Tm_T> yup, for nothing
[12:29] <Tm_T> ;)
[12:30] <Tm_T> and yeah, too expensive, students have student's budget ;)
[12:31] <Tm_T> Kyral: busy?
[12:32] <fatejudger> !samba
[12:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:33] <Sinik> hi, quick question, I'm trying to install kubuntu using the dvd version, and soon after I choose install to hard disk, I get "/dev/ram/ does not exit, dropping to shell"
[12:33] <Sinik> anyone has any suggestions?
[12:33] <Sinik> I googled it, but I didn't find much
[12:33] <Tm_T> hmm, Breezy?
[12:33] <Sinik> yes
[12:33] <Tm_T> ok
[12:34] <Tm_T> I've heard about that problem before, no idea to fix it though
[12:34] <Tm_T> I'd say burn install cd :/
[12:34] <Sinik> ok, thanks :)
[12:35] <Tm_T> you can also keep retrying (hey, we all bang our heads to the wall sometimes)
[12:35] <Tm_T> ;)
[12:41] <imr3o> hi
[12:42] <imr3o> can i use a video projector attached to my laptop running kubuntu breezy?
[12:43] <imr3o> cause i'm having a presentation on monday i don't wanna mess it up by not being able to present it
[12:43] <imr3o> pressing fn+f4 does make my screen go blank on my fujitsu siemens amilo. does that mean anything?
[12:44] <Tm_T> well...
[12:44] <Tm_T> best way to make sure it works, is testing
[12:45] <imr3o> Tm_T: i would, but the next time i'll be near a projector will be the presentation
[12:45] <Tm_T> then we all hope it works
[12:45] <imr3o> so i'm actually thinking about bringing along my gf's laptop running windows
[12:45] <Tm_T> I expect it to work, but nothing's sure
[12:45] <imr3o> but i think it should work
[12:45] <imr3o> Tm_T: i know that :)
[12:46] <imr3o> i've googled and couldn't find any complaints
[12:46] <Tm_T> yeah, it _should_ work just fine
[12:47] <imr3o> thanks
[12:48] <imr3o> it's so great to be back to linux
[12:48] <imr3o> i went back to windows for one app. but i couldn't stand it so i'm dualbooting and only using win for the one app
[12:50] <duality> is there any software for taking screenshots in ubuntu?
[12:50] <XVampireX> Hi
[12:50] <duality> hey
[12:51] <XVampireX> just a sec, need to configure colours
[12:51] <_spiritz> duality: ksnapshot
[12:51] <My8os> duality: there is ksnapshot
[12:51] <duality> k
[12:51] <duality> cant take screens with of the xgl effects
[12:53] <XVampireX> Ok, I tried enabling translucency but it doesn't work
[12:53] <XVampireX> I crashed (Because of thunder)
[12:53] <imr3o> duality: there is ksnapshot
[12:54] <XVampireX> Uhm, and when I got back it said that Composite Manager failed
[12:56] <XVampireX> So what am I supposed to do?
[12:57] <XVampireX> Can anyone help?
[01:00] <cinter> anyone have any luck with the BCM4306 wifi b/g adapter?
[01:01] <family> yes here
[01:01] <family> :)
[01:02] <family> with ndiswrapper on my turion64 notebook
[01:02] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me with translucency?!
[01:03] <Parkotron> XVampireX: What exactly did yo try to do to enable it?
[01:03] <XVampireX> I went to window settings
[01:03] <XVampireX> window behavior^
[01:03] <Parkotron> Oh. OK.
[01:03] <Parkotron> What kind of video card do you have?
[01:04] <XVampireX> But because of thunder my  computer restarted and when I logged back in it said that composite manager failed
[01:04] <XVampireX> Geforce FX 5200
[01:05] <Parkotron> Did KDE start up fine, just no composite?
[01:05] <cinter> family: i used ndiswrapper as well , it reports driver loaded hardware present , but im still not finding in kde's settings
[01:05] <XVampireX> Yeah, KDE started fine
[01:05] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Do you know how edit your xorg.conf?
[01:06] <XVampireX> Somewhat, last time I checked xorg.conf was empty
[01:06] <Parkotron> XVampireX: I don't really thinks that's possible. Run "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:07] <family> cinter: are you using dapper?
[01:07] <cinter> dapper?
[01:08] <XVampireX> Ah, lol, yeah, now it works
[01:08] <family> ubuntu dapper?
[01:08] <family> kubuntu, sry :)
[01:08] <XVampireX> It's because of linux's case sensitivity
[01:08] <cinter> no i believe its breezy badger
[01:08] <family> mhhh
[01:08] <XVampireX> I meant xorg.conf works
[01:08] <XVampireX> So uhm what am I supposed to do?
[01:08] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Find the "Device" section. It should say some stuff about your video card.
[01:08] <family> do you use wep or wpa?
[01:09] <cinter> wpa
[01:09] <cinter> i hace an open network i can test on
[01:09] <XVampireX> It says stuff about it alright, what now?
[01:09] <cinter> hace=have
[01:09] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Add a line to that that say 'Option		"RenderAccel"	"true"'
[01:09] <family> first time I got wpa under kubuntu running was with dapper and v. 0.6.1 of knetworkmanager :(
[01:10] <family> but you could try the older networkmanager of course
[01:10] <XVampireX> With all the signs too?
[01:10] <family> but only with wep
[01:10] <family> :(
[01:11] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Here, it's way easier to use pastbin. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/634958
[01:12] <lance> hey does there an easy way to java chat?
[01:12] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Add those to sections to your device section.
[01:12] <XVampireX> thanks
[01:12] <XVampireX> now save?
[01:12] <cinter> family: thanks
[01:13] <XVampireX> do I have to restart X now?
[01:13] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Then add this to the very bottom of the file: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/634963
[01:13] <XVampireX> alright
[01:13] <lance> hey is there an easy way to get java chat to work?
[01:13] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Then save the file. Logout. Restart X. And see what happens.
[01:14] <XVampireX> Alright, thanks, brb
[01:14] <lance> no huh?
[01:15] <Parkotron> lance: Sorry, never used java chat.
[01:15] <lance> rats and they say linux is easy to use
[01:15] <lance> thanx for the responce
[01:16] <Parkotron> lance: What is Java Chat anyway?
[01:16] <lance> a app that runs under java
[01:17] <XVampireX> Parkotron: It works, thank you!
[01:17] <lance> and  a lot of people can sign in and chat in a room
[01:17] <Parkotron> lance: Have you installed Java?
[01:17] <lance> yep
[01:18] <lance> most of all the pakages i found
[01:18] <Parkotron> lance: Is it a web applet or a separate application?
[01:18] <lance> i used adept
[01:19] <lance> i think it's a applet that needs java librarys
[01:20] <lance> i used winblows and just enable java to get it to work
[01:20] <XVampireX> Hey, it treats the panel as window too, I don't need that
[01:21] <Parkotron> lance: I'm not really sure what to tell you, you may want to try on ubuntuforums.org.
[01:21] <lance> i've had it work with Xandros
[01:21] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Whaddaya mean?
[01:21] <XVampireX> I mean, it has the translucency effect too
[01:21] <Parkotron> lance: Try following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754&highlight=java
[01:21] <lance> nice sounds like you've got a good vid card
[01:21] <lance> thanx
[01:22] <Parkotron> XVampireX: That shouldn't be happening.
[01:23] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Are you using the default panel?
[01:24] <kev1n> i need lots of assistance to get a Dvico TV tuner card to work on kubuntu
[01:24] <XVampireX> Uhm, using Crystal theme for it
[01:24] <XVampireX> Well, whatever came with it, lol
[01:25] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Alright fine. There are some fancy replacements you can install. I was just checking.
[01:25] <XVampireX> Ah, nevermind, lol
[01:25] <XVampireX> I enabled translucency for it too, I forgot that, haha
[01:25] <XVampireX> Or wait, I didn't...
[01:26] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Turn off the composite with "dcop kwin KWinInterface stopKompmgr".
[01:26] <kev1n> anybody able to assist with the TV Tuner card question?
[01:26] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Then turn it back on with "dcop kwin KWinInterface startKompmgr".
[01:27] <Parkotron> kev1n: I've never played with tuner cards under Linux. Sorry. That's a pretty particular problem, you may want to try the forums.
[01:27] <XVampireX> lets see
[01:27] <kimo_> what's the equiv of network manager for kubuntu 1
[01:28] <DeeZiD> knetworkmanager :)
[01:28] <kev1n> Pakotro I have a link that will fix iI hope but it may as well as been  written in russian for all it means to me....   http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/
[01:28] <Parkotron> kev1n: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99647&highlight=dvico
[01:29] <kimo_> DeeZiD: umm :) no really is there something ?
[01:29] <kev1n> thanks Pakotron
[01:30] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Did that help? Composite is pretty bug at this point in time. It helps if you install the latest nVidia driver, though.
[01:30] <kuzmaster> i have downloaded the java.bin file off the sun java website, but how to do i install it
[01:30] <DeeZiD> network-manager-kde
[01:31] <kuzmaster> ???
[01:31] <duality> kuzmaster, do "sudo chmod +x javafile.bin"
[01:31] <duality> then "./javafile.bin"
[01:31] <XVampireX> Parkotron: I installed the video drivers few days ago
[01:32] <kuzmaster> do i need to type in the full directory of the file
[01:32] <DeeZiD> @XVampireX: Do you want to use kcompmgr with a NVIDIA card?
[01:32] <kuzmaster> or just the file name
[01:32] <kimo_> DeeZiD: I can't find this utility either!
[01:32] <kimo_> DeeZiD: I am a newbie on kubuntu
[01:33] <XVampireX> DeeZiD: What do you mean?
[01:33] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[01:33] <JohnFlux> I upgrade to dapper, but now xorg doesn't work.  It says that it failed to load the 'nvidia' module.
[01:33] <DeeZiD> I don't suggest you to use composite with a nvidia card
[01:33] <DeeZiD> its too unstable
[01:33] <JohnFlux> I have the kernel restricted modules
[01:33] <XVampireX> Well I fixed my problems
[01:33] <JohnFlux> what I'm forgetting to do?
[01:34] <JohnFlux> !nvidia
[01:34] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:34] <Tm_T> JohnFlux: reinstall nvidia stuff
[01:34] <JohnFlux> Tm_T: the kernel restricted modules?
[01:34] <Tm_T> everything
[01:34] <Tm_T> ;)
[01:34] <JohnFlux> Tm_T ;0
[01:35] <kimo_> DeeZiD: is there any form of net manager seriously ?
[01:35] <DeeZiD> I only know network-manager
[01:35] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Every now and then kompmgr (KDE composite) will act up and start doing funky things. I wrote a script to eailty allow me to turn it off and on.
[01:35] <DeeZiD>  I use network manager 0.6.1 under kubuntu dapper
[01:36] <DeeZiD> and it works pretty well with my broadcom and wpa :)
[01:36] <kimo_> DeeZiD: that's not in kubuntu, right
[01:36] <XVampireX> Parkotron: Where do I get it? Just in case I need it :P
[01:36] <DeeZiD> you can use network-manager with the knetworkmanager applet: sudo apt-get install network-manager-kde
[01:36] <DeeZiD> no problem
[01:36] <DeeZiD> here
[01:37] <DeeZiD> but theres another new tool :)
[01:37] <DeeZiD> wait
[01:37] <Parkotron> XVampireX: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/634999
[01:37] <kimo_> ohh thnx
[01:37] <XVampireX> thanks
[01:37] <Parkotron> XVampireX: I use KHotkeys to assign it a keyboard shortcut.
[01:37] <DeeZiD> kimo_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37041&PHPSESSID=5063baa6fc12ad1dbbdc5e4a81e09536
[01:38] <XVampireX> oh?
[01:38] <Parkotron> kimo_: Wireless networking is one of the things that's getting a lot of work for the next Kubuntu release.
[01:38] <XVampireX> Do I need to get this khotkeys program?
[01:38] <XVampireX> Or is it already installed in kubuntu
[01:39] <Parkotron> XVampireX: No no. You have it already.
[01:39] <kimo_> I am on dapper :)
[01:39] <XVampireX> Where is it?
[01:39] <DeeZiD> kewl
[01:39] <Parkotron> XVampireX: KControl > Regional and Accessability > Input Actions
[01:39] <XVampireX> thanks
[01:42] <XVampireX> How do I add the script?
[01:42] <JohnFlux> Tm_T ah I'm missing nvidia-glx
[01:42] <Tm_T> JohnFlux: what I said
[01:42] <JohnFlux> Tm_T you said "nvidia stuff" :P
[01:43] <Tm_T> yeah, that's nvidia stuff
[01:43] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Save it to a file (I called mine komptoggle) and make it executable. Try running it in a sheel to make sure it works.
[01:44] <XVampireX> thanks :)
[01:44] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Then under Input Actions, click New Action.
[01:45] <XVampireX> Yeah, I think I can figure out how to do it now
[01:45] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Name it, choose Action Type: Keyboard Shortcur -> Command URl.
[01:45] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Alright. Ask if you have trouble.
[01:47] <XVampireX> lets see if it works
[01:47] <serkan_calis> my dvd-rw is scd0 for kubuntu, why?
[01:48] <serkan_calis> it is not scsi i think
[01:48] <XVampireX> Ah, it opens up kate
[01:48] <XVampireX> with the file
[01:49] <XVampireX> oh, lol, nevermind
[01:49] <XVampireX> supposed to do chmod +x
[01:50] <XVampireX> works :)
[01:51] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Excellent. Glad I could help.
[01:51] <XVampireX> Yes, thank you very much :)
[01:52] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Personally I use Input Actions for everything. I'm a bit addicted to the Windows key. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120001
[01:53] <XVampireX> linux is so awesome with its customizeability
[01:53] <XVampireX> With this it can make the life of a gamer so much easier, lol
[01:54] <XVampireX> Actually, it's easier than windows when you learn all the tricks
[01:54] <ipfw> http://freshmeat.net/redir/fox/2819/url_homepage/www.fox-toolkit.com <- anyone else have trouble with the FM site & FireFox-1.0.7 (Ubuntu-Breezy), wanting to Open/Save the link as a File instead of a website ?
[01:54] <XVampireX> WOW! Just gave me an awesome idea for a script
[01:54] <Parkotron> XVampireX: If you're nerdy enough to figure it out, Linux is better than every other OS on pretty much every front.
[01:55] <XVampireX> Can I make a script to launch 2 things one after another in the konsole?
[01:55] <XVampireX> sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:56] <Parkotron> XVampireX: Yes. Bash scripting can be pretty handy.
[01:56] <ipfw> XVampireX:  thats weak ;)
[01:56] <XVampireX> :P Need to figure out how to do that script now
[01:56] <ipfw> XVampireX:  go read the basic/advanced bash scripting howto's at http://tldp.org
[01:57] <ipfw> XVampireX:  command1 && command2
[01:57] <ipfw> XVampireX:  that will run the first, and if it completes with no errros, does the next
[01:57] <Parkotron> XVampireX: If you have the time, reading through the HOWTO ipfw  recommended is good advice.
[01:58] <XVampireX> thank you :)
[01:58] <Parkotron> ipfw: That link works here, but I'm running Firefox 1.5.
[01:58] <ipfw> Parkotron:  dapper ?
[01:59] <ipfw> Parkotron:  I had 1.5 before I blew my part away by mistake (long story)
[01:59] <Parkotron> ipfw: Nope, just custom installed in Breezy.
[01:59] <ipfw> Parkotron:  from source, or by wiki ?
[02:00] <Parkotron> ipfw: Just downloaded from mozilla.org.
[02:01] <_death> hello can anyone help me?
[02:01] <ipfw> _death:  I doubt it, but we might try
[02:01] <vinboy> hi
[02:01] <_death> lol ok
[02:01] <Parkotron> _death: Maybe. It's hard to say if we don't know your problem.
[02:01] <_death> its really simple i think im a noob
[02:01] <_death> ok
[02:01] <vinboy> can i install amarok2.0 via the package manager?
[02:01] <_death> i need to install winetools
[02:01] <ipfw> Parkotron:  you take a pm from me ?
[02:01] <ipfw> vinboy:  sure
[02:02] <DeeZiD> amarok 2.0 ? LOL
[02:02] <Tm_T> DeeZiD: yes?
[02:02] <_death> i got it dled and everything
[02:02] <_death> and i have it in a folder
[02:02] <DeeZiD> that was an aprils joke ;)
[02:02] <vinboy> ipfw: how do I do tat?? bcoz i think the package is not on the server yet?
[02:02] <Tm_T> vinboy: package of what?
[02:02] <_death> in the konsole how do i change to that directory and execute it
[02:03] <_death> the install command?
[02:03] <Parkotron> ipfw: What's this about a pm?
[02:03] <serkan_calis> i have two question, 1. i cant enable dma, it gives me the error HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device, 2. mplayer cant use alsa
[02:03] <vinboy> Tm_T:  amarok2.0
[02:03] <ipfw> Parkotron:  just wanted to know if you mind, if I msg you
[02:04] <XVampireX> Yeah, amarok2.0? :O
[02:04] <vinboy> yup
[02:04] <vinboy> just released today
[02:05] <vinboy> or yesterday
[02:05] <DeeZiD> only a joke ;)
[02:05] <Parkotron> ipfw: Well, I just started on IRC three weeks ago, so I have no idea how  private messages work.
[02:05] <serkan_calis> does kubuntu have a forum
[02:06] <_death> i dunno
[02:06] <ipfw> Parkotron:  not a bit issue, I was just going to tell you how much I hate the term "noob, newbie, n00b" or any incarnation of it
[02:06] <ipfw> serkan_calis:  google.com is your friend
[02:06] <Parkotron> serkan_calis: www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/
[02:07] <Parkotron> serkan_calis: I prefer the first.
[02:07] <ipfw> serkan_calis:  make sure you have alsa 1.0.x or higher for mplayer support, and not every device needs DMA support :)
[02:07] <serkan_calis> ok it is not dma i know
[02:07] <serkan_calis> btw i googled ipfw
[02:07] <serkan_calis> i did a fresh install
[02:08] <Tm_T> vinboy: to say the truth, amaroK 2.0 won't be in repositories until early 2007, if we are lucky
[02:08] <ipfw> serkan_calis:  "ipfw" -> Internet Packet FireWall ... Everyone knows that (poor humor joke) *Grin*
[02:09] <ipfw> Tm_T:  whats the big deal with amarok anyway ?
[02:09] <kimo_> I wanna download something to test my bandwidth .. :)
[02:09] <Tm_T> ipfw: amaroK is just more than playe
[02:09] <Tm_T> r
[02:09] <Tm_T> ipfw: I love it, some people don't
[02:10] <fuzzymonster> Hi, can someone help with unrar multipart files?
[02:11] <fuzzymonster> unrar x filename.rar.001
[02:11] <fuzzymonster> that's all I know what to do, but get an error message
[02:11] <Parkotron> fuzzymonster: What's the error?
[02:11] <ipfw> Tm_T:  so, what does it do ? its a media player... anything special ?
[02:12] <Parkotron> ipfw: It has a VERY nice music library system.
[02:12] <Tm_T> it's damn good music centre
[02:12] <XVampireX> Yes
[02:12] <XVampireX> Very memory efficient
[02:12] <vinboy> Tm_T: oh... tat is bad.... maybe i'll go get the .deb file myself
[02:13] <XVampireX> You could compare amarok to foobar
[02:13] <Tm_T> vinboy: uh, deb package from april fool, good idea ;)
[02:13] <vinboy> lol
[02:13] <kimo_> can wget multi-connect to some server
[02:13] <XVampireX> If you're coming from windows you know what foobar is
[02:14] <vinboy> any website teach u how to tune up ubuntu or kubuntu system?
[02:14] <vinboy> i think my kubuntu has alot of useless running processes
[02:14] <fuzzymonster> Parkotron: Encrypted file:  CRC failed in foster.avi (password incorrect ?)
[02:14] <fuzzymonster> Unexpected end of archive
[02:14] <fuzzymonster> Total errors: 2
[02:14] <XVampireX> I just got fooled today once
[02:14] <Parkotron> fuzzymonster: The file requires a password. Do you have it?
[02:14] <fuzzymonster> yes
[02:15] <Tm_T> vinboy: define useless
[02:15] <fuzzymonster> I thought maybe it had something to do with being multipart, but I unrar the lowest file number
[02:15] <XVampireX> You know how I got fooled?
[02:16] <Tm_T> XVampireX: no, but I expect you to tell me
[02:16] <XVampireX> yes, just a sec
[02:16] <Parkotron> fuzzymonster: I've had no trouble in the past with multipart encrypted rars.
[02:16] <XVampireX> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1197
[02:16] <vinboy> Tm_T: processes that i dun need ..........
[02:16] <XVampireX> I got fooled by that
[02:17] <Parkotron> fuzzymonster: I have had problems with forgetting to captialise specific letters in passwords before.
[02:17] <XVampireX> You can see my comment in the comments area
[02:17] <fuzzymonster> no, it's all lowercase
[02:17] <Tm_T> vinboy: ah, and why you have to get rid of them? lowend system? running out of memory?
[02:17] <XVampireX> I'm the one with the fairly long comment though :P
[02:17] <vinboy> memory issue
[02:18] <Tm_T> vinboy: ah, tell me more, what kind of memory issue
[02:19] <XVampireX> Check this out: http://monolith.sourceforge.net/
[02:19] <Parkotron> fuzzymonster: My best guess is that the file's become corrupt or something. Sorry I couldn't help.
[02:19] <vinboy> i find the system consume about 80% of memory without running memory intensive app
[02:19] <fuzzymonster> Parkotron:  Thank you anyway
[02:19] <Tm_T> vinboy: how you measure it?
[02:19] <vinboy> how do I disable window animation during maximizing and minimizing?
[02:20] <vinboy> Tm_T: the Ksysguard
[02:20] <Tm_T> vinboy: ok, open Konsole and say "free"
[02:20] <Tm_T> vinboy: I get this kind of row: -/+ buffers/cache:     434488     600180
[02:20] <vinboy> Tm_T: yup...
[02:21] <Tm_T> what's yours?
[02:21] <Tm_T> and tell me also how much you have ram
[02:21] <vinboy> -/+ buffers/cache:     234760     801888
[02:21] <Tm_T> :)
[02:21] <vinboy> i have 1gb ram
[02:21] <vinboy> about 1.5gb swap
[02:21] <vinboy> i would like to see how it goes when i run eclipse
[02:21] <Tm_T> congrats, you are using 230 M ram and rest is just buffers and cache
[02:21] <vinboy> :D
[02:22] <Tm_T> yeah, only 230
[02:22] <Tm_T> so no worries, pal
[02:22] <vinboy> oh ic
[02:22] <Tm_T> ;)
[02:22] <vinboy> so 230 is the system?
[02:22] <vinboy> hm....... i dun have alot of programs running though
[02:22] <Tm_T> system and all programs
[02:22] <vinboy> ic
[02:23] <vinboy> thanks Tm_T
[02:23] <Tm_T> rest is just using empty mem
[02:23] <Tm_T> np :)
[02:23] <vinboy> i'm new to linux :)
[02:23] <Tm_T> heh
[02:23] <Tm_T> you know, even I can't get my 1 G ram full
[02:23] <Tm_T> and I'm heavy user
[02:24] <vinboy> good on u
[02:24] <vinboy> i'm a java developer
[02:24] <vinboy> i constant run big java IDE
[02:24] <Sinik> You could always switch to windows for a bit, and put that lazy unused ram to work :P
[02:24] <vinboy> hope it won't kill my linux
[02:24] <vinboy> hehehee
[02:24] <vinboy> windows' ram management is good i think
[02:25] <Tm_T> it's far from good =)
[02:25] <vinboy> ok how do I disable animation during maximizing and minimizing?
[02:25] <vinboy> i bet u ppl know it....
[02:25] <Parkotron> I put two gigs into my computer when I bought it. Just after that I switched to Linux. My swap partition hasn't been touched since. If I'd only know, I could have saved some money.
[02:25] <Tm_T> vinboy: run kcontrol
[02:25] <Tm_T> vinboy: it's all there
[02:26] <Tm_T> vinboy: if you can't find it, poke me and I'll tell you ;)
[02:26] <vinboy> wow
[02:26] <vinboy> nice
[02:26] <vinboy> itis weird that it doesn't put kcontrol in my menu
[02:26] <Tm_T> yeah, it's "replaced" by systemsettings
[02:27] <vinboy> ic
[02:27] <vinboy> OK
[02:27] <Parkotron> Is any one else running KDE 3.5.2?
[02:27] <Tm_T> alt-F2 gives rundialog, use it ;)
[02:27] <vinboy> I GOT IT!!!
[02:27] <vinboy> thanks much Tm_T
[02:27] <Tm_T> Parkotron: yeah
[02:27] <Tm_T> vinboy: np
[02:27] <vinboy> kcontrol is handy
[02:27] <Sergi0> Parkotron: yup
[02:28] <Tm_T> vinboy: it's good, powerful, but some people find it "messy"
[02:28] <vinboy> it is simple and powerful
[02:28] <Parkotron> Tm_T & Sergi0 : Can you guys duplicate a file in Konqueror by copying it to it's original directory?
[02:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone here can use tightvnc?
[02:29] <Parkotron> Under 3.5.1 doing this told me there was a filename conflict and gave me the opportunity to rename it. Under 3.5.2 it just gives me an error.
[02:30] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: I have vnc running, why?
[02:30] <Sergi0> Parkotron: i get that message now
[02:30] <Parkotron> Sergi0: Which, the rename dialog or the error?
[02:31] <Sergi0> Parkotron: :P the rename dialog :)
[02:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Parkotron: what do you use to startup it? i can't give to the server command the X:0 window server because it is useb by another process(kde)
[02:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Parkotron: and if i try to use :1 and in the client i use the same.. i get only a grey X window...
[02:31] <Parkotron> Sergi0: Well damn, that means the problems with my setup. Thanks.
[02:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Parkotron: how can i see my KDE currently running screen?
[02:32] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: KDE comes with a built in VNC server. If you don't have specific needs use it.
[02:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i know
[02:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i already use it
[02:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i want something that is runnable from terminal
[02:33] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Oh. Then try x11vnc. It's designed to share you're current screen.
[02:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> isn't possible to use tightvnc?
[02:33] <Tm_T> Parkotron: yeah, it should be fixed though
[02:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> since it says it is a FAST way of transiming data
[02:34] <noiesmo> hello all, When I restart my computer after it has been turned off my screen resolution is 640x480 after a couple of kill x gdm and reboots it goes back to 1024x768 resolution. any suggestions to help with this problem?
[02:34] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: x11vnc supports the full tightvnc protocol.
[02:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[02:34] <Tm_T> Parkotron: yup, fixed
[02:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok i will try it now
[02:34] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: It has a boatload of options, so I'd almost guarentee that you can make it suit your exact needs.
[02:35] <Tm_T> Parkotron: upgrade and restart kde (fixed in dapper atleast)
[02:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> I fixed the problem with the gray vnc screen and x cursor by going to Login Screen Setup->Security->Enable XDMCP. <--- WHAT is this?
[02:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> XDMCP?
[02:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this is for tightvnc
[02:36] <Parkotron> Tm_T: Thanks, I'm on Breezy. I have a test Dapper installation, though. I'll check for updates to Breezy tough.
[02:36] <McScruff> lo all
[02:37] <kev1n> McScruff: Lo
[02:37] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Are you trying to vnc to a headless box?
[02:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no
[02:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's my laptop
[02:39] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: XDMCP = X (window) Display Manager Control Protocol
[02:39] <McScruff> why the fook did dell put broadcom chipsets in this lappy!!!!!! i need to do my updates but noooooooooooooo i cant coz i cant get online to get the windows driver!!! im havin to use windows!!
[02:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that was for ubuntu
[02:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i enable it for kubuntu
[02:41] <XVampireX> Are there any viruses for linux at all?
[02:42] <McScruff> yes
[02:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> very few
[02:42] <Parkotron> Tm_T: No go. There aren't any updates for the Breezy KDE3.5.2 packages. Thanks anyway.
[02:43] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: What exactly are you trying to set up with your VNC?
[02:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> see my current kde desktop
[02:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that should be X:0
[02:43] <conn> hi, how do I reconfigure the system handling of time? I chose in the installer UTC time, but it keeps setting my time an hour ahead, how do I reconfigure on a running system?
[02:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i can't create a vnc on X:0
[02:44] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Are you trying to do this automatically on startup?
[02:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nope
[02:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> from a terminal inside kde
[02:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7VNHqO42.html
[02:46] <Daemon_rox> alguem sabe a senha do root no kubuntu?
[02:46] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: I'm pretty sure the the standard vnc and tightvnc server can only create new screens. They can't share you're current one.
[02:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oo
[02:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[02:47] <Tm_T> Parkotron: then wait upgrade ;)
[02:47] <murph2481> tried download Amarok 1.4 beta2 and still cannot play MP3's back :(
[02:47] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Sharing the current screen is x11vnc's specialty.
[02:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok, in this case i will try the one you told me before
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Tm_T: i tried to install the new kopete that you give me yesterday (very nice :) ) but now i have a broken package because dependancies are not up to date
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> particularly i got:
[02:48] <murph2481> !amarok
[02:48] <ubotu> [amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[02:48] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: what?
[02:48] <Tm_T> what dependencies
[02:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/PBHwl445.html
[02:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> look there
[02:49] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: ...youre running dapper?
[02:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nope
[02:50] <Tm_T> exactly
[02:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you suggest me to upgrade? is it safe?
[02:50] <Tm_T> it's pretty safe
[02:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[02:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can you give me the new reps?
[02:50] <Tm_T> well, sure
[02:50] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[02:50] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:51] <Tm_T> :)
[02:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> remember it may break??
[02:51] <Tm_T> yes
[02:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to come back in case of problems?
[02:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have only this linux machine :(
[02:51] <Tm_T> well, if there's something broken, it will be fixed asap
[02:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oooo :=
[02:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i thaught broken like.. you will not boot anymore
[02:52] <Tm_T> hehe
[02:52] <Tm_T> not anymore
[02:52] <murph2481> i have been using dapper for a while
[02:52] <murph2481> with little to no issues
[02:52] <murph2481> anyone good with Amarok?
[02:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> little?
[02:52] <Tm_T> I've been using about 5-6 months dapper
[02:52] <murph2481> yea i had some CUPS issues
[02:52] <murph2481> and some stability issues
[02:52] <Tm_T> murph2481: amaroK <3
[02:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oo
[02:52] <murph2481> nothing major
[02:53] <Parkotron> murph2481: What player engine are you using?
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what is <3 ??
[02:53] <Tm_T> heart
[02:53] <murph2481> amarok 1.4 beta2 with xine
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ooo
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok, i will try dapper
[02:53] <DeeZiD> dapper works great here
[02:53] <DeeZiD> except the problems with cups
[02:54] <Tm_T> I don't have cups, no manboobs here
[02:54] <murph2481> cups is a huge pain in the ass
[02:54] <DeeZiD> and Xgl works great too =)
[02:54] <Tm_T> Xgl is waste of time imo =)
[02:54] <Tm_T> oh well, some people like
[02:54] <DeeZiD> It works on any other distro without problems here ;)
[02:54] <murph2481> haven't added XGL as I cannot find a big use for it
[02:54] <Tm_T> to me it's just annoyance
[02:55] <Tm_T> murph2481: yup, I rather compile KDE4 stuff like now
[02:55] <fatejudger> !dma
[02:55] <dyrne> some of us need to justify our $300 graphics cards
[02:55] <Parkotron> XGL is fun to play with, but really not as big a deal as many make it out to be. It's the reason a have a separate Dapper testing installation.
[02:55] <Tm_T> heh
[02:56] <XVampireX> Hey, for all you people wanting to know a little secret in Konqueror web browser you should press ctrl while you're on some website
[02:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh
[02:56] <Parkotron> Every few weeks I boot into it, upgrade to the latest XGL stuff, play around, and reboot into Breezy.
[02:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> eheh: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/V6z7vI95.html
[02:56] <XVampireX> Tm_T: I only got 256mb ram so don't complain
[02:56] <murph2481> thats what the swap is for :)
[02:57] <XVampireX> :P
[02:57] <Tm_T> XVampireX: 1G here but I could easily use 3
[02:57] <XVampireX> Tm_T: You don't need that much
[02:57] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: then just uncomment all non-ubuntu repositories and change ubuntu ones from breezy to dapper
[02:57] <Tm_T> XVampireX: because...
[02:58] <XVampireX> Tm_T: Because that's too much.
[02:58] <Tm_T> yeah, 1G ram and 1.5G swapfully used and 0.2fps, not good
[02:58] <murph2481> alright anyone good with KMAIL?
[02:58] <pastryness> im using ubuntu, how do i get kde to work on it? in the sessions tab at login, i dont have a choice to use kde... ?
[02:58] <XVampireX> I do pretty much fine with just 256
[02:58] <Tm_T> XVampireX: it's not
[02:58] <Tm_T> pastryness: and kde is installed?
[02:58] <XVampireX> Tm_T: Install video drivers
[02:59] <pastryness> thats what i wanna know, how to install it
[02:59] <murph2481> pastryness check out: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#installfromubuntu
[02:59] <XVampireX> Or who's having the 0.2fps stuff?
[02:59] <Tm_T> XVampireX: installed, doesn't help when you have to handle few gigs of textures
[02:59] <murph2481> for all my video i just downloaded VLC
[02:59] <murph2481> and i can view all videos
[02:59] <XVampireX> Why so much?
[03:00] <Tm_T> murph2481: Kmail too
[03:00] <XVampireX> :P
[03:00] <Tm_T> XVampireX: because I have to
[03:00] <Tm_T> ...if I don't wan't to look blurry textures
[03:00] <murph2481> Tm_T i just reinstall dapper, long story, anywho i saved the maildir with all my emails i cannot get kmail to recoginze it
[03:00] <Tm_T> murph2481: hmm, sounds interesting
[03:01] <Tm_T> murph2481: import?
[03:01] <murph2481> Tm_T: if i move the saved folder to the /~Mail directory it shows up in kmail but when i open the email it is blank :(
[03:01] <murph2481> import is never available it is always disabled??
[03:01] <Tm_T> sounds bad
[03:01] <Tm_T> no idea
[03:01] <Tm_T> I compile KMail myself
[03:01] <murph2481> hmmm ill keep trying
[03:02] <Tm_T> XVampireX: you can test it too, install newest Celestia, download some accurate textures to earth, get some flyby... wheeee
[03:03] <Tm_T> XVampireX: it could easily hog over 2G of ram
[03:03] <XVampireX> Celestia?
[03:03] <Tm_T> yup
[03:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why the upgrade to dapper remove OpenOffice2???
[03:03] <XVampireX> That's pretty :P
[03:04] <XVampireX> I'll get celestia sometime
[03:04] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: because... just go on and check it after upgrade
[03:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> .....?
[03:04] <Parkotron> Can anyone here tell Spanish from Portugese from Italian from ... ?
[03:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ye
[03:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ii can
[03:05] <Parkotron> "Sempre discordamos. Vamos mudar de assunto."
[03:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Sempre..
[03:05] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: well, openoffice2 packages are replaced by openoffice packages
[03:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in spanish is siempre
[03:05] <Tm_T> Tallia1Kubuntu: youget same stuff, different packagenames
[03:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so i suppose i portoguese
[03:05] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Thanks.
[03:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[03:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anyway, absolutely not italian :)
[03:07] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Babelfish agrees with you. It's Portugese. Thanks.
[03:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> where would you put a passfile in your system?
[03:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have to create a passfile for vnc but i dunno a good place where to put is..
[03:12] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Like a VNC password file?
[03:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a standard one?
[03:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[03:12] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Mine's in ~/.vncpass
[03:12] <Parkotron> I don't think there's astandard for that.
[03:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wow.. i was going in infinite loop of VNC
[03:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[03:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> seeing a window inside the other.:)
[03:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it works anyway so thanks a lots
[03:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !x11vnc
[03:15] <Parkotron> I've done that before. If you want to make it even scarier, apply a scale to it.
[03:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> scale?
[03:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> however..
[03:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> another question..
[03:16] <Parkotron> http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/recurse_x11vnc.jpg
[03:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> my font in kde is disgusting.. i can't see the difference between dot and comma...
[03:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can you suggest me a good one? i am on a laptop tft screen :)
[03:17] <seth|lappy> Tallia1Kubuntu, I suggest the Bitstream series
[03:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok, let me try
[03:18] <Parkotron> I'm assuming your using Deja Vu? I like it a lot, but you're right, there's only a single pixels difference between commas and periods.
[03:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have for
[03:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Deja Vu?
[03:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no Sans Serif
[03:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Sans Serif 11
[03:19] <Parkotron> Deja Vu is the default. It's just an opensource version of the Bitstream series.
[03:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> there are 4 bitstream
[03:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> which one do you suggest me?
[03:19] <XVampireX> Parkotron: Is it also possible to automate tasks through time?
[03:20] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: There names should be obvious. You probably don't want serifs or monospacing. So go with sans.
[03:20] <Parkotron> XVampireX: You mean have a script run at a set interval?
[03:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what does those names means?
[03:20] <XVampireX> parkotron, yes
[03:20] <ipfw> Parkotron:  whats the proper way to make my system use the new ff1.5.0.1 instead of the default 1.0.7-ubuntu ?
[03:20] <Parkotron> Wow! Everyone's talking to me at once!
[03:20] <ipfw> Parkotron:  just put /opt/firefox/ higher in the path, is that good enough ?
[03:21] <XVampireX> :P
[03:21] <Parkotron> It's almost like I'm popular.
[03:21] <ipfw> Parkotron:  your popular
[03:21] <XVampireX> You're helpful :P
[03:21] <ipfw> Parkotron:  tell you what, I'll answer a few questions, and you answer mine ;)
[03:21] <ipfw> ok Parkotron people, I'm now taking Parkotron style questions for the next 10min :P
[03:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> BItstream Vera Serif :)
[03:22] <ipfw> XVampireX:  you're still around, shouldn't you be reading _something_ ?
[03:22] <XVampireX> :P
[03:22] <XVampireX> Reading what?
[03:22] <Parkotron> XVampireX: I think you want to use cron for that, but I don't know anything about it.
[03:22] <ipfw> XVampireX:  I don't know, maybe those bash/shell programming howto's at tldp ?
[03:22] <XVampireX> Ah, you mean bash stuff
[03:23] <XVampireX> Ah, yeah, Kron! That's what I needed :) lol
[03:23] <XVampireX> Yeah, I'll check it out I bookmarked it
[03:23] <ipfw> XVampireX:  cron will run events over and over at certain times/intervals, "at" will run them one time, at a given time
[03:23] <ipfw> XVampireX:  just telling you, it answers most of these questions
[03:23] <XVampireX> at?
[03:23] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Serif fonts have extra little lines one them that make them look fancier. For example Times New Roman is a serif font. Arial is a sans serif font.
[03:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sans?
[03:24] <XVampireX> What do you mean by "at"?
[03:24] <ipfw> XVampireX:  yes, "man at" && "man cron" && "man crontab"
[03:24] <ipfw> XVampireX:  oh, and "man bash" for that matter !
[03:25] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: In a monospace font each character is the same width, so characters line up well in columns. It's what's used in text editors.
[03:25] <XVampireX> Is that some utility or a shell command?
[03:25] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: Sans is latin for without, it I remember correctly
[03:25] <ipfw> Parkotron:  anyway, did you update the kde links to firefox with properties by hand, or just put the new firefox dir higher in your path ?
[03:25] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: I guess I figure someone who reads Spanish would recognise the word.
[03:26] <Parkotron> ipfw: Sorry, I'm looking for a good howto to give you.
[03:26] <ipfw> XVampireX:  man, is a command to display manpages (manual pages), if you run "man" on the things I gave, it will explain what they are, and how they work
[03:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Parkotron: ? that phrase is a bit messy
[03:26] <XVampireX> Oh, thanks.
[03:26] <ipfw> Parkotron:  honestly, I don't need a howto, I have the ff working, I just want to know what route you took ... a overview, doesn't have to be wordy either :)
[03:27] <Parkotron> ipfw: I think I just linked /usr/bin/firefox to the new version.
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's the structure  of a good password?
[03:27] <ipfw> Parkotron:  in fact, I might just grep the .kde for "firefox", and have a sed/grep/blah replace doen to /opt/firefox/firefox
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i need a new one.. and i have to create it now
[03:28] <ipfw> Parkotron:  crap, that would be a _much_ easier approach :P
[03:28] <ipfw> <- doesn't apply KISS
[03:28] <Tm_T> aaaah
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's the structure of a good password?
[03:31] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: There's a program called pwgen in the repositories that's suppose to generate good passwords for you.
[03:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Parkotron: again a fast and good answer :)
[03:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i like those !! :)
[03:32] <seth|lappy> Tallia1Kubuntu, http://www.sethkinast.com/files/strength-o-meter/ will perform some simple checks to see how good your password is :P
[03:32] <ipfw> Parkotron:  I did a backup of /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox (tarBall), and then mv'd it to .ubuntu && cp -Rvfp'd /opt/firefox ./mozilla-firefox to bring in the new one, it worked... so it seems... Thanks for the advice
[03:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i love this channel :)
[03:33] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: I've never used pwgen. Could you give us an example? (Preferably not the one you plan to use for your vnc server.)
[03:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Zechei4T
[03:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Baekor5D
[03:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i like them...... because they are readable :)
[03:34] <Parkotron> That's why a reccomended it. It said it generated pronouncable passwords.
[03:35] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  Military has a Reg for passwords, it wants you to use at least 9 characters, 2 Caps, 2 Special chars, 2 Numbers .. Something like &Teh*Crash$
[03:35] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  not saying thats the best, just one guide
[03:36] <seth|lappy> Really you should just use 3 out of the 4 charsets: lowercase, uppercase, numbers, punctuation
[03:36] <ipfw> I personally like pass phrases
[03:36] <seth|lappy> that + >= 7 letters will give you a practically unbeatable password
[03:36] <seth|lappy> I like taking a word and turning it into 1337
[03:36] <ipfw> seth|lappy:  yeah, I forgot my punctuation
[03:36] <Parkotron> Personally, I just like to used misspelled dictionary words. I know it's not the most secure, but I don't have major security worries.
[03:36] <seth|lappy> so like, sup3rp4$$w0rd!
[03:37] <seth|lappy> I find those to be the easiest to remember for me
[03:37] <ipfw> seth|lappy:  naw, 133+ passwords are common cracks
[03:37] <seth|lappy> not if you inconsistently 1337 it :P
[03:37] <seth|lappy> sup3r vs. s00p3r, etc.
[03:37] <ipfw> awww
[03:37] <seth|lappy> but again, none of us has governmental secrets I bet
[03:37] <seth|lappy> hehe
[03:38] <ipfw> seth|lappy:  I have a few, fairly well kept ;)
[03:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ipfw: yes but they take half an hour to type it :)
[03:39] <ipfw> the secret to keeping them safe, external drives, normally umounted, cyrpted files, nonstandard compression, nonstandard fs, and wild dir structure
[03:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ipfw: keeping what?
[03:40] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  If I told you, it wouldn't be a secret -- Now would it !
[03:40] <ipfw> geez !
[03:40] <ipfw> <- rotflmao
[03:40] <kev1n> LOL
[03:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ? sorry i lose the point of the discussion,... i was at the washroom
[03:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[03:41] <kev1n> passwords were the the point of the discussion
[03:41] <ipfw> yeah, I just tacked on general security
[03:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[03:42] <ipfw> best way to safeguard data is to keep it far away from Net access, and physically locked up, of possible
[03:43] <ipfw> such as my external drives, I only physically hook them up, and use them when I need to, and I unplug the cat5 before they get mounted
[03:43] <ipfw> of course, I don't handle _all_ my data that way, just important stuff
[03:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anybody wrote a script for starting x11vnc at boot?
[03:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and for tunneling in ssh too .. :)?
[03:49] <Parkotron> Tallia1Kubuntu: That's beyond my realm of knowledge.
[04:01] <Parkotron> This has to be, by far, my favourite of all the April Fool's jokes: www.google.com/romance
[04:02] <ipfw> Parkotron:  yeah, it is a good one
[04:02] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  its waiting for you to write it... to easy :)
[04:08] <glick> scuse me does anyone here use audacity?
[04:08] <glick> im trying to racord something but when i mess up and press stop
[04:08] <glick> and then try to over record it records it all slow and stupid
[04:09] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  let me guess, you want me to write one for you ? *Grin*
[04:09] <Danny> can anyone help me make my user account have root privlages?
[04:09] <Danny> so that I can set up my wireless connection
[04:09] <Danny> etc
[04:09] <ipfw> Danny:  I could ... can you tell me why you need/want one ?
[04:09] <Danny> so I can add users, set up my wireless connection, edit system settings
[04:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Danny: sudo command .........
[04:10] <ipfw> Danny:  ok... just let me get this straight, you want to activate the root user account, so you can "be root" instead of having to sudo everything ?
[04:10] <Danny> when I access the system settings
[04:10] <Danny> and click on "Users..."
[04:11] <Danny> and click on "Admin Mode"
[04:11] <Danny> it gives me an error
[04:11] <Danny> so basically yes
[04:12] <ipfw> Danny:  "sudo su" <password> && passwd         ............. will run su with sudo, su to root, and the passwd command will set a root pass, to activate root, but even doing all that doesn't mean your apps will run as root when under X as a user, and other complications
[04:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> instead of changin admin mode inside it
[04:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> just do "sudo kcontrol" and type the password
[04:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or do "kdesu kcontrol"
[04:12] <ipfw> Danny:  Tallia1Kubuntu has a better idea, try sudo <appName> first to see if that works
[04:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i had the same problem in hoary
[04:13] <ipfw> Danny:  because chances are, what I displayed will only help you to root around in consoles (CLI commands)
[04:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when i changed to admin mode dynamically ..... it never worked and it always bring me to the option subdirectory description
[04:13] <Danny> ok thanks
[04:14] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  cool to see your answering questions too :)
[04:14] <Danny> so...I do..(In a terminal..?) sudo kcontrol?
[04:14] <Danny> and root pass?
[04:14] <Danny> and that should let me have admin privs for it?
[04:14] <Sergi0> Danny: yes
[04:14] <Danny> ok thanks
[04:14] <ipfw> Danny:  from a xterm I think it would be sudo <app> privUserPass
[04:15] <Danny> I'll be back in a bit and tell you if it worked
[04:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ipfw: i always do when i can answer :)
[04:15] <ipfw> might be rootPass though
[04:15] <ipfw> Danny:  I'm not sudo savy
[04:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> howver.. somebody can tell me what's gam_server? it's using 400MB of ram
[04:15] <Danny> or "sudo kcontrol (rootpass)password
[04:15] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  sounds like some gnome pile of crap to me ... Kill it and see what goes down :P
[04:16] <ipfw> Danny:  just keep stabbing at it, until it works ! :)
[04:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yep... i'd like to know why it was running
[04:16] <Danny> ok thanks
[04:16] <Danny> bbiab
[04:16] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  some crappy program linked to crappy gnomelibs probably ran its 400Meg lib !
[04:17] <Nomad411> !gam_server
[04:17] <ubotu> Nomad411: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the only active gnome program is synaptics
[04:17] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  these stupid hundred meg desktop lib deps are getting on my nerves
[04:17] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  probably it, I know synaptics requires gnomelibs
[04:17] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  some reason people can't just use glib/gtk these days :P
[04:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried to compile them once
[04:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i haven't been lucky..
[04:18] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  compile what ?
[04:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> gtk+
[04:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to get audacity working
[04:18] <ipfw> umm, you make that sound hard :)
[04:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yep
[04:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i had very hard time
[04:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i gave up in the end
[04:19] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  actually though, there is a glib-dev gtk+-dev to provide the libs, I'm sure
[04:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i needed the last lib version
[04:19] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  so, you want to make this program work ?
[04:20] <ipfw> Tallia1Kubuntu:  hop to #unbuntu-offtopic
[04:20] <ipfw> that might as well be my primary channel :P
[04:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> naa
[04:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am using music studios in my university theater
[04:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i will wait for a working debian package
[04:20] <ipfw> umm, ok.. whatever that is
[04:21] <ipfw> I've ran slack for years, so building software is something I can normally do in my sleep
[04:29] <xanza> Anyone able to lend me some help? Newbie to Kubuntu.
[04:30] <duality> sure
[04:30] <duality> ill try
[04:30] <xanza> I just used Adept and downloaded A bittorrent program, and now i cant find out how to use it.
[04:30] <xanza> lol
[04:30] <xanza> Ive allready tried typeing its name into the Konsole, and looking for it under the Startmenue thingy.
[04:31] <duality> do you need software for bittorrents?
[04:31] <xanza> Nope, i got the GUI one.
[04:32] <duality> what bittorrent program were you reffering to?
[04:32] <xanza> Bittornado
[04:33] <xanza> lol
[04:34] <duality> strange
[04:34] <duality> its not there after install =S
[04:34] <duality> sry i dont know
[04:35] <xanza> lol yea i noticed. :P
[04:35] <xanza> lol
[04:35] <xanza> thanks anyways. :D
[04:35] <Danny> It didn't work..:(
[04:35] <Danny> i got this error:
[04:35] <Danny> sudo: unable to lookup dknoppix via gethostbyname()
[04:36] <xanza> Oh, your on KNOPPIX. lol.
[04:36] <Danny> no
[04:36] <Danny> thats my username elsewhere
[04:36] <Danny> I'm on kubuntu
[04:36] <xanza> lol oh
[04:36] <xanza> xD
[04:36] <Sergi0> :)
[04:36] <Danny> lol
[04:36] <duality> lol
[04:37] <xanza> like i said, linux newb. :P
[04:37] <Danny> lol
[04:38] <xanza> lol!
[04:38] <xanza> Oh its GUI, dont i have to log out or something?
[04:41] <Danny> so, any ideas?
[04:42] <Danny> ipfw?
[04:42] <Danny> Tallia1Kubuntu?
[04:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[04:42] <Danny> any ideas?
[04:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> on what?
[04:42] <Danny> why it isn't working
[04:42] <Danny> and the error?
[04:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the thing is said you before?
[04:43] <Danny> yes
[04:43] <ipfw> Danny:  whats the issue ?
[04:43] <Danny> [09:35:35]  <Danny> sudo: unable to lookup dknoppix via gethostbyname()
[04:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> osshat
[04:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dunno what's that
[04:43] <Danny> I tried sudo kcontrol
[04:45] <Sergi0> Danny: do u have other users on your system?
[04:46] <danahata> test
[04:47] <Danny> no
[04:48] <Sergi0> Danny: did you cange your hostname?
[04:48] <Danny> i dunno
[04:48] <Danny> i just made my hostname dknoppix
[04:48] <Sergi0> check /etc/hosts
[04:50] <Danny> looking atm
[04:51] <Danny> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[04:51] <Danny> how bout hostname?
[04:52] <Sergi0> make the line like this '127.0.0.1 localhost dknoppix'
[04:53] <Danny> ok
[04:53] <Danny> then try the sudo?
[04:53] <Sergi0> yep
[04:53] <Danny> ok
[04:53] <Danny> lemme boot into kubuntu :)
[04:53] <Danny> thanks
[04:53] <Sergi0> ehm
[05:02] <temi> Hey, can anyone help out? Im trying to get WMP files on internet to load, i installed w32codex but it still doesnt work
[05:03] <Sergi0> temi: try vlc
[05:03] <Sergi0> !vlc
[05:03] <ubotu> vlc is, like, totally, a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[05:03] <temi> thanks :D
[05:04] <Sergi0> temi: search synaptic, its there somewhere
[05:05] <temi> search in what?
[05:06] <Sergi0> temi: or the easy way terminal: 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[05:06] <Sergi0> s/easy/lazy/
[05:07] <temi> it said couldnt find package
[05:07] <Sergi0> u will need the universe sources i guess
[05:16] <Danny> uh...
[05:17] <Danny> how can I edit my etc/hosts file
[05:17] <Danny> it says I don't have permission to edit it
[05:17] <tristanmike> use "sudo"
[05:17] <Sergi0> hmm
[05:17] <Sergi0> use sude
[05:17] <Sergi0> o*
[05:17] <Danny> how?
[05:17] <Danny> whats the edit command in the terminal?
[05:17] <Danny> and it gives me a sudo error
[05:17] <Danny> thats why I need too
 [09:35:35]  <Danny> sudo: unable to lookup dknoppix via gethostbyname()
[05:17] <VRWarper> youre pretty f*
[05:18] <VRWarper> thats one thing i dont like about not setting a root password and depending on sudo
[05:18] <VRWarper> if you accidentally screw up the host name
[05:18] <Sergi0> VRWarper: u got a point there
[05:18] <VRWarper> youll have to boot your machine with init=/bin/bash
[05:18] <Danny> I did set a root pass
[05:18] <Sergi0> Danny: try in terminal 'su - '
[05:19] <Danny> what'll that do?
[05:19] <Sergi0> try a root login for terminal session
[05:19] <VRWarper> oh
[05:19] <VRWarper> rofl then just log in as root
[05:19] <Sergi0> Danny: how did u change your hostname? just wondering
[05:19] <VRWarper> then go about doing stuff
[05:19] <Danny> so.."Ctrl-Alt-F6"
[05:19] <Danny> I dunno
[05:20] <Danny> when I rebooted, it asked me what my hostname was
[05:20] <VRWarper> probably /etc/hostname
[05:20] <Danny> the default was ubuntu
[05:20] <Danny> how do I login as root?
[05:20] <OdyX> Can somebody confirm Flight6 is released ?
[05:20] <Tm_T> it is
[05:20] <poningru> yes
[05:20] <Sergi0> Danny: yes, login as root, change the /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[05:20] <poningru> it has
[05:20] <Tm_T> OdyX: topic
[05:20] <Danny> change the hostname to what?
[05:20] <OdyX> Tm_T: thanks
[05:20] <Danny> i know aobout the hosts
[05:20] <OdyX> Tm_T: Kubuntu even ?
[05:20] <Sergi0> Danny: just check it then :) it should be your hostname
[05:21] <Tm_T> OdyX: topic ;)
[05:21] <Danny> what is my host name?
[05:21] <Danny> sorry for being a noob
[05:21] <OdyX> Tm_T: OK => Downloading by Torrent
[05:21] <Sergi0> Danny: np's
[05:21] <OdyX> Tm_T: I should really go to sleep...
[05:21] <Danny> change hosts to: 127.0.0.1 localhost dknoppix
[05:21] <Danny> and hostname to..?
[05:21] <Sergi0> Danny: dknoppix
[05:21] <Danny> ok
[05:21] <Danny> and if I edit it via dknoppix it says no permission
[05:22] <Danny> if i do a ctrl alt f6, then login as root
[05:22] <Tm_T> OdyX: I can't anymore, it's morning
[05:22] <VRWarper> brb
[05:22] <Danny> should I cd to /etc
[05:22] <Danny> then how do I edit hosts?
[05:22] <OdyX> Tm_T: GMT+1 ?
[05:22] <Sergi0> Danny: what dknoppix?
[05:22] <Tm_T> OdyX: spent whole night compiling KDE4, still doing it
[05:22] <Tm_T> OdyX: +2 or +3
[05:22] <OdyX> Tm_T: haven't slept yet
[05:22] <Danny> thats my username
[05:22] <OdyX> Tm_T: packagin' it for Kubuntu ? :P
[05:22] <Tm_T> OdyX: nope, atleast not this time ;)
[05:22] <Sergi0> so, ur username is dknoppix and the hostname is dknoppix ? thats wat ur telling me
[05:23] <OdyX> Tm_T: OKay...
[05:23] <OdyX> Tm_T: some compile.. some other go out for drink(sss) :D
[05:23] <Tm_T> OdyX: maybe next year
[05:23] <Danny> how do I edit the file?
[05:23] <Danny> after I do the ctrl alt f6
[05:23] <OdyX> Tm_T: for when is final KDE4 planned ?
[05:23] <Danny> and cd to /etc
[05:24] <Tm_T> OdyX: no restrictive plans yet, prolly early 2007, maybe sooner
[05:24] <Sergi0> type 'nano /etc/hosts'
[05:24] <Danny> ok thanks
[05:24] <OdyX> Tm_T: so Dapper +1 or +2 ?
[05:24] <Danny> brb
[05:24] <Sergi0> Danny: u are logged in as root
[05:24] <Tm_T> OdyX: +2
[05:24] <OdyX> Tm_T: fine !
[05:24] <Danny> I will be
[05:25] <Danny> I know how to do that :)
[05:25] <Danny> brb
[05:25] <temi> Yo, i got the stuff you guys said for WMP files but theyre still not running
[05:27] <Sergi0> temi: whats the link of the file?
[05:27] <Sergi0> temi: url
[05:28] <temi> lol..
[05:28] <temi> lemme find it
[05:28] <temi> it was a movie on putfile
[05:29] <Tm_T> oh yes!
[05:29] <temi> it says
[05:29] <temi> Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one...
[05:29] <temi> No useable audio-driver found! (alsasink)
[05:29] <temi> hm
[05:29] <temi> ok
[05:29] <temi> im stupid
[05:29] <temi> lol
[05:29] <Tm_T> aah, KDE4 <3
[05:30] <temi> which is?
[05:31] <Tm_T> http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/blog/kde4-kate_01.png
[05:31] <Tm_T> OdyX: I can't wait, as you can see
[05:31] <ryanakca> !enter
[05:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:33] <temi> anyone know why it cant initialise my audio driver?
[05:34] <OdyX> Tm_T: what do you mean with "KDE4 < 3" ? Regression ?
[05:35] <Tm_T> OdyX: <3 as a heart
[05:35] <OdyX> ?
[05:35] <temi> lolol
[05:35] <OdyX> it's a smiley ?
[05:35] <temi> it so doenst look like one
[05:35] <OdyX> Seems more like a "prout" if you understand what I mean...
[05:36] <OdyX> Well... You like it... ?
[05:36] <OdyX> :D
[05:37] <Tm_T> I do I do
[05:38] <temi> Hey how do i know what audio driver im using?
[05:38] <OdyX> Tm_T: fast, efficient? (I mean "faster than KDE 3.5" )
[05:38] <Tm_T> can't say
[05:38] <Tm_T> but it will be
[05:39] <OdyX> Tm_T: I like to hear it... :D
[05:40] <OdyX> Tm_T: So.. I'll stop taking your precious time and throw me in my bed (taking shutdown time to confirm all those "no shutdown" bugs :D )
[05:40] <temi> Does anyone know what "Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink'" means?
[05:40] <OdyX> So. Have a good night guys (I mean "sleep" - GMT+1 here9!
[05:41] <Danny> ok...it works
[05:41] <Danny> a bit
[05:41] <Danny> it asks me for my password
[05:42] <Danny> so I enter my root password
[05:42] <Danny> it doesn't work
[05:42] <Danny> then I enter my user pass
[05:42] <Danny> it doesn't work
[05:42] <temi> lol
[05:42] <Danny> but I know its the correct user password
[05:42] <Danny> er
[05:42] <Danny> correct root pass
[05:42] <temi> its the same apssword as the one you use to login
[05:42] <Danny> because I can login via the terminal
[05:42] <Danny> user password
[05:42] <Danny> or root pass?
[05:42] <Danny> I tried both
[05:43] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Danny about root
[05:45] <Danny> thanks
[05:45] <Danny> what is gksudo?
[05:46] <Danny> anywho..brb
[05:46] <temi> so
[05:46] <temi> anyone know what "Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink'" means?
[05:50] <burepe> I want to install Ktorrent 1.2 because my 1.0 doesn't work. 1.2 is not available in adept so could someone tell me how to install 1.2?
[05:50] <Tm_T> burepe: svn
[05:50] <VRWarper> worse suggestion ever
[05:50] <burepe> what is that?
[05:51] <VRWarper> upgrade to 3.5.2
[05:51] <VRWarper> kde 3.5.2
[05:51] <burepe> do I do that through adept?
[05:52] <VRWarper> erg
[05:52] <VRWarper> 3.5.2 already made it into the official apt servers
[05:52] <burepe> cool thanks
[05:52] <VRWarper> so 1.2 should be in adept
[05:52] <VRWarper> just let adept upgrade everything
[05:52] <burepe> I tried to do update but the option was not available
[05:52] <burepe> ok
[05:52] <VRWarper> oh wait
[05:52] <VRWarper> breezy or dapper
[05:53] <burepe> breezy
[05:53] <VRWarper> bad assumption
[05:53] <VRWarper> yeah..
[05:53] <VRWarper> okay you need to add an apt server that has the latest kde
[05:53] <burepe> ok
[05:54] <VRWarper> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:54] <burepe> how do I check if I have breezy or dapper. I think it is brezey but I am like wait a sec
[05:54] <VRWarper> its probably breezy :)
[05:54] <VRWarper> otherwise you would have the upgrade option
[05:54] <burepe> ok
[05:54] <VRWarper> anyway
[05:54] <burepe> cool thanks
[05:55] <VRWarper> follow source-o-matic and generate a new sources.list
[05:55] <VRWarper> just make sure you have kubuntu.org packages for latest kde version checked
[05:55] <burepe> yeah
[05:56] <burepe> should I update kde or just ktorrent?
[05:56] <VRWarper> up to you
[06:04] <Danny> I did (In a regular terminal) sudo kcontrol (password)
[06:04] <Danny> and it seemed to work
[06:04] <Danny> then I went to the network connections, and then it asked for my password
[06:05] <Danny> and I entered it, and it said it was wrong
[06:05] <robotgeek> Danny: did you enable root?
[06:05] <Danny> and it said something about su -
[06:05] <Danny> how?
[06:05] <robotgeek> Danny: ok, then you probably din't :)
[06:05] <robotgeek> Danny: did you type "your" password?
[06:05] <Danny> yes
[06:05] <Danny> both
[06:05] <Danny> I went into Ctrl alt f6
[06:06] <Danny> and logged in as root
[06:06] <Danny> but when I did sudo kcontrol
[06:06] <robotgeek> Danny: okay, did you mean user:root?
[06:06] <Danny> it said something about display
[06:06] <Danny> yes
[06:06] <robotgeek> Danny: if you enabled the root user, then gui tools will not work
[06:07] <Danny> so should I use kdesu when I'm in the root terminal?
[06:07] <Danny> kdesu kcontrol
[06:07] <robotgeek> Danny: how did you enabled root user? did you do an expert install?
[06:07] <Danny> yes
[06:07] <robotgeek> Danny: gui tools will not work, sorry
[06:08] <Danny> :(
[06:08] <Danny> so what can I do?
[06:08] <robotgeek> Danny: hmm, you might be able to disable the root account, but i am nit sure
[06:08] <Danny> why would I want to do that?
[06:09] <robotgeek> Danny: cause you don't look like an expert user to me, no offense
[06:09] <Danny> yes
[06:09] <Danny> I know
[06:10] <Danny> i wasn't sure if and expert install would format my windows disk
[06:10] <Danny> because I still need that
[06:10] <Danny> or will it take me to the partition manager?
[06:10] <robotgeek> Danny: you can still do admin stuff without being root account
[06:10] <Danny> but it won't let me..
[06:10] <robotgeek> Danny: havent you installed kubuntu yet?
[06:10] <ryanakca> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Dovecot says that there should be a file called /etc/ssl/certs/dovecot.pem that's created when dovecot is installed. I installed dovecot, yet that file does not seem to exist, how do I create it?
[06:10] <Danny> yes
[06:10] <Danny> I have
[06:11] <robotgeek> Danny: read the wiki page about root sudo, it tells you how to disable the root account. then, gui admin tools will work
[06:11] <Danny> kk thanks :)
[06:12] <Danny> ok...brb :)
[06:13] <Snake|ONAIR> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000A3XRSO/sr=1-1/qid=1143950595/ref=sr_1_1/104-7723534-9433536?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=audio-video
[06:13] <Snake|ONAIR> oops
[06:14] <XVampireX> Hey, can anyone help me running native Eternal Lands?
[06:14] <XVampireX> The website says "chmod to 775 and execute el.x86.linux.bin"
[06:15] <XVampireX> What's chmod to 775?
[06:15] <tristanmike> it changes the permissions on the file
[06:15] <XVampireX> how do  I do the 775 thing then?
[06:16] <XVampireX> chmod +775 (file) ?
[06:16] <tristanmike> chmod 775 el.x86.linux.bin
[06:16] <XVampireX> ah ok
[06:17] <XVampireX> Doesn't seem to be working
[06:18] <tristanmike> what are you doing after the chmod ?
[06:18] <XVampireX> I am trying to execute it
[06:18] <XVampireX> not through console though
[06:18] <tristanmike> ahh, you should probably do it through a console
[06:19] <XVampireX> "bash: el.x86.linux.bin: command not found"
[06:19] <tristanmike> ./el.x86.linux.bin
[06:19] <XVampireX> ah
[06:20] <XVampireX> yeah works that way, thanks
[06:20] <tristanmike> np :)
[06:20] <XVampireX> :)
[06:30] <burepe> VRWarper, I added the kde-latest repo but it does not say there is an update available
[06:30] <burepe> What to do?
[06:35] <vinboy> hi
[06:35] <vinboy> help~~
[06:35] <vinboy> after restart kubuntu
[06:36] <vinboy> I could ping 192.168.0.1 (the gateway) but nothing on the net
[06:36] <vinboy> and I tried to connect to the yahoo's ip but didn't work
[06:48] <macpro> hello whats the right driver to use with wpa_supplicant for broadcom 43xxx
[06:48] <macpro> btw im talkin about DF6
[06:52] <Danny> ok..I'm reinstalling Kubuntu
[06:52] <Danny> without the expert command
[06:53] <Danny> see if that helps
[06:53] <Danny> I might need some help setting up my wireless connection though
[07:04] <ralpho> How do i log in as root
[07:04] <ipfw> ralpho:  you don't
[07:04] <farous> sudo will do the trick
[07:04] <ralpho> need to setup networks
[07:04] <farous> sudo will give you root prival
[07:04] <farous> !tell ralpho about root
[07:12] <ipfw> !root
[07:12] <ipfw> !sudo
[07:12] <ipfw> think the bot is broke
[07:12] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:12] <ubotu> [sudo]  a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:12] <me2win> !grub
[07:12] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:13] <Danny> ok
[07:13] <Danny> how do I connect to a wireless network?
[07:14] <Kyral> !wireless
[07:14] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[07:14] <Danny> ty
[07:14] <Kyral> now I go shower
[07:15] <Kyral> hey nalioth
[07:16] <Danny> what if it doesn't have my model?
[07:16] <nalioth> hi y'all
[07:16] <Tm_T> nalioth: Hobbsee_: hello hello :)
[07:16] <Hobbsee_> hi
[07:16] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-ARCH running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2700+ at 2166 MHz (4339 bogomips), , RAM: 990/1011MB, 80 proc's, 3.29h up
[07:16] <Tm_T> :o
[07:17] <Tm_T> hey now!
[07:17] <me2win> metallica damnit!
[07:17] <me2win> S&M
[07:17] <me2win> cmon!
[07:17] <Kyral> huh?
[07:17] <me2win> llol
[07:17] <me2win> wrong channel
[07:17] <Tm_T> indeed
[07:17] <Kyral> O_O
[07:17] <me2win> lol
[07:17] <Kyral> Yah I have to think about THAT in the shower..thats
[07:17] <Kyral> thanks evem
[07:18] <Tm_T> Who - A Quick One, While He's Away
[07:18] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: hehe
[07:18] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: I'm fighting with kde4 stuff
[07:18] <Hobbsee> ugh
[07:18] <Tm_T> ugh indeed =)
[07:19] <seth> anyone have a Broadcom 4306 successfully working with the bcm43xx stuff? (not ndiswrapper)
[07:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee_away:  you on Jabber?
[07:22] <Danny> hello?
[07:24] <Danny> can anyone help me with a wg111 usb card?
[07:25] <GNU_Style> whos on PCLINUX HERE?
[07:28] <me2win> ?
[07:29] <GNU_Style> can I run ghost recon on linux?
[07:29] <XVampireX> GNU_Style: If there is a native version then yes, if not you will have to try Wine which might not work with ghost recon.
[07:31] <Danny> this is dumb..but if I have a tarball, how do I install the program?
[07:32] <XVampireX> Uhm, it depends
[07:32] <Danny> like ndiswrapper
[07:32] <Danny> or firefox
[07:33] <XVampireX> Some tars are source and some are binary
[07:33] <XVampireX> Wouldn't you rather just install firefox through the repositories?
[07:33] <Danny> how?
[07:33] <Danny> I'm a total noob :/
[07:33] <XVampireX> go to konsole and type in sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:33] <Danny> well
[07:34] <Danny> first I need to get my wireless connection to work
[07:34] <XVampireX> wait, that's not the package
[07:34] <Kyral> well, I have good and bad news
[07:34] <ralpho> I got root
[07:34] <XVampireX> ah, it is
[07:34] <Danny> can I do that with
[07:34] <Danny> ndiswrapper?
[07:34] <XVampireX> sec, let me see
[07:34] <Kyral> 1) its the Nvidia driver causing my computer to f&&k up
[07:35] <Kyral> and not Kubuntu
[07:35] <nalioth> Danny: you should use the repos as much as you can
[07:35] <Danny> its a wb111 usb adapter
[07:35] <XVampireX> If you want you can search for packages through apt-cache search package
[07:35] <nalioth> !ndiswrapper
[07:35] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:35] <Danny> whats repos?
[07:35] <Kyral> however...I'm gonna use Arch until Dapper+1 opens :D
[07:35] <nalioth> Danny: watch your private messages, most everything you will want is in them (over 17,000 programs)
[07:35] <nalioth> Danny: you'll want to enable universe and multiverse repos
[07:36] <XVampireX> !universe
[07:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:36] <XVampireX> There you go danny
[07:40] <Danny> uh...
[07:40] <Danny> nvm
[07:42] <Danny> how do I set up an ethernet connection?
[07:43] <Kyral> !ethernet
[07:43] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kyral
[07:43] <Hobbsee> Danny: an ethernet connection?  set it up?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> wasnt it already set up by default?
[07:43] <Danny> yes
[07:44] <Danny> dunno
[07:44] <Kyral> you plug one end into the wall, the other end into the computer....
[07:44] <Danny> yeah
[07:44] <Danny> did that
[07:44] <Kyral> :P
[07:44] <Kyral> I was just being an ass :P
[07:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:44] <Hobbsee> check if it's already there in ifconfig
[07:44] <Danny> i know :P
[07:44] <Hobbsee> dunno why a *wired* connection wouldnt be connected though...
[07:45] <Danny> nope
[07:45] <Kyral> like this
[07:45] <Danny> its connected
[07:45] <Kyral> INCOMING
[07:45] <Kyral> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:2F:ED:2B:39
[07:45] <Danny> but I try to access the admin thing in the connections but its not letting me gah
[07:45] <Kyral>           inet addr:128.153.197.150  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.254.0
[07:45] <Kyral>           inet6 addr: fe80::211:2fff:feed:2b39/64 Scope:Link
[07:45] <Kyral>           UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[07:45] <Kyral>           RX packets:41333839 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[07:45] <Kyral>           TX packets:18526916 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[07:45] <Kyral>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[07:45] <Kyral>           RX bytes:2803354336 (2673.4 Mb)  TX bytes:1226201342 (1169.3 Mb)
[07:45] <Kyral>           Interrupt:20 Base address:0x8800
[07:45] <Kyral> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[07:45] <Kyral>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[07:45] <Kyral>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[07:45] <Kyral>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[07:45] <Kyral>           RX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[07:45] <Kyral>           TX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[07:45] <Hobbsee> Kyral: you should know better!
[07:45] <Hobbsee> use the pastebin!
[07:46] <Hobbsee> i'm already having trouble with my connection, then you go and flood it!
[07:46] <robotgeek> sad
[07:46] <Kyral> lol sorry
[07:46] <Danny> and when I enter my password
[07:46] <Danny> it doesn't work
[07:46] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:46] <Kyral> Work with me I'm on 3 hours of sleep here
[07:46] <Kyral> OW!!
[07:46] <Hobbsee> ah, glad that clone left...
[07:46] <Kyral> Jeez....as per anime regulations
[07:47] <Kyral> only women are allowed to smack me when I do something stupid!
[07:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:47] <robotgeek> you have a problem, cause i don't watch anime
[07:47] <Danny> why aren't any of my admin thing doing?
[07:48] <robotgeek> Danny: did the root thing work for you?
[07:48] <Kyral> chmod +wk robotgeek?
[07:48] <Danny> I reinstalled
[07:48] <Danny> then it worked
[07:48] <Danny> then I rebooted
[07:48] <Danny> now it works
[07:48] <Kyral> uhoh...
[07:48] <Kyral> sorry sorry sorry
[07:48] <Danny> er
[07:48] <Danny> now it doesn't work
[07:49] <robotgeek> Danny: hmm, okay. is this dapper?
[07:49] <Danny> no
[07:49] <Danny> its kubuntu
[07:49] <robotgeek> Danny: okay, what gui admin app doesn't work?
[07:49] <Danny> everything
[07:49] <Danny> I enter my password
[07:50] <Danny> and it doesn't do anything
[07:50] <robotgeek> Danny: try "kdesu konqueror" frpm a terminal
[07:50] <Danny> kk
[07:50] <Danny> i just rebooted hold on a sec
[07:51] <Danny> it asked me for my pass
[07:52] <Danny> ok..it openede
[07:53] <Danny> I can open kuser in terminal
[07:53] <Danny> via kdesu
[07:53] <robotgeek> Danny: then it should work with the admin tools also
[07:53] <Hobbsee> Kyral: horrible....
[07:53] <Kyral> huh?
[07:54] <Hobbsee> your flood probably killed my connection...
[07:54] <Hobbsee> it's rather fragile today...
[07:54] <Kyral> sorry!!!!!!!!
[07:54] <Kyral> happy?
[07:54] <Hobbsee> hmmm....what's that?
[07:54] <Danny> soo?
[07:54] <Kyral> Ritual Suicide
[07:55] <robotgeek> Danny: so it works?
[07:56] <Danny> yes
[07:56] <Danny> but nothing else works
[07:56] <robotgeek> Danny: tru kdesu adept?
[07:57] <Hobbsee> ah
[07:57] <Danny> "There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was:
[07:58] <Danny> Authentication Rejected, reason: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[07:58] <Danny> Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!
[07:58] <Danny> after that
[07:58] <Danny> it opened
[08:01] <Danny> ?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> Danny: run dcopserver in a terminal, then?
[08:02] <Danny> it says that its already running, and if I know its not running, to delete something
[08:02] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[08:03] <Hobbsee> well, are you talking thru a terminal, or do you have kde running?
[08:03] <Danny> both
[08:03] <Danny> a terminal in kde
[08:03] <Danny> i just did thru a terminal
[08:03] <Hobbsee> ah ype
[08:06] <Danny> ?
[08:09] <Danny> hello?
[08:09] <cueva> hola
[08:09] <robotgeek> Danny: yes, do what it tell you to do
[08:09] <Danny> what?
[08:09] <Danny> adept?
[08:10] <robotgeek> Danny: the dcopserver thing?
[08:10] <Danny> oh
[08:10] <Danny> i rebooted and didn't get that error
[08:10] <robotgeek> Danny: kk
[08:11] <Danny> so?
[08:12] <cueva> adios
[08:12] <robotgeek> Danny: so what?
[08:13] <Danny> what do I do?
[08:13] <Danny> I can't do any of the admin settings..
[08:13] <robotgeek> Danny: do you get a window which asks for your password?
[08:14] <Danny> yes
[08:14] <Danny> I enter it and it works
[08:14] <robotgeek> Danny: then what is the issue?
[08:14] <Danny> but not for when I click on "Administrator Moade"
[08:14] <robotgeek> ah..
[08:14] <Danny> then I enter it
[08:14] <Danny> and it just refreshes and does nothing
[08:15] <robotgeek> Danny: click administrator mode, and try clicking on the window after that
[08:15] <Danny> and enter my pass?
[08:16] <robotgeek> Danny: yup
[08:16] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:16] <Danny> ok
[08:16] <Danny> then it just goes to the window without enabling me to do anything
[08:17] <robotgeek> Danny: you will be in admin mode then, i think
[08:17] <Danny> but I'm not
[08:17] <temi> Does anyone have an HP computer?
[08:18] <Danny> I can't edit it
[08:18] <ipfw> whats the name of the xlibs package for ubuntu ?
[08:18] <robotgeek> Danny: weird, i don't know what to say :P
[08:18] <robotgeek> !xincludes
[08:18] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[08:18] <Danny> whats that
[08:18] <ipfw> thanks
[08:18] <robotgeek> that's for ipfw
[08:19] <Danny> oh
[08:21] <Danny> its like a su setting error or something
[08:23] <Danny> aha..
[08:23] <Danny> I took a look at my sudoers file
[08:23] <Danny> and it says
[08:23] <Danny> "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[08:24] <Danny> shouldn't that be changed?
[08:24] <robotgeek> Danny: i'm sorry, i don't know. lemme peek into mine
[08:24] <Danny> kk
[08:24] <Danny> I can't edit it...
[08:24] <robotgeek> Danny: visudo , i think
[08:24] <Danny> my user doesn't have enough permission
[08:24] <Danny> oh
[08:25] <Danny> permission denied
[08:25] <Danny> I tried nano sudoers
[08:25] <Danny> and got permission denied
[08:26] <GullyFoyle> sudo nano sudoers
[08:26] <robotgeek> i have a root    ALL=(ALL) ALL in addition to your line
[08:26] <Danny> are you root?
[08:26] <Danny> and how do I edit it?
[08:26] <Danny> whats teh default pass?
[08:26] <Danny> for root?
[08:26] <robotgeek> Danny: okay, i cam confused. did you read the wiki page about sudo and root?
[08:27] <robotgeek> Danny: root is disabled in kubuntu
[08:27] <Danny> then how am I supposed to edit it?
[08:30] <robotgeek> Danny: sudo visudo, i think
[08:30] <Danny> lets see if I can write to it..
[08:31] <nico__> hi
[08:31] <robotgeek> Danny: don't mess with it, you can botch your system
[08:31] <Danny> too late
[08:31] <nico__> anybody know how to setup ati dual sceen ?
[08:31] <Danny> its been the same issue
[08:31] <Danny> just my luck
[08:31] <Danny> I've installed ubuntu on my desktop and lappy before
[08:31] <Danny> and same sudo problem
[08:31] <ipfw> why do people keep fighting this root thing
[08:31] <ipfw> if you need root, just enable it ;)
[08:32] <ipfw> sudo was a wet dream when I started using linux :P
[08:32] <Danny> lol
[08:33] <ipfw> I think the whole sudo thing is *cute*, but give me a break ;)
[08:33] <Danny> whats the point?
[08:33] <robotgeek> Danny: you installed normally this time right, not expoert mode?
[08:33] <Danny> yes
[08:33] <ipfw> Danny:  someone told me there is a guide to enabling root, after I had already done so
[08:34] <ipfw> took me less than 5min to put on my "got r00+" t-shirt :P
[08:34] <robotgeek> Danny: weird. sudo works, but not administrator mode
[08:34] <robotgeek> might be weird kde issue, upgrade to kde3.5.2 :)
[08:35] <ipfw> robotgeek:  you on dapper ?
[08:35] <Danny> how?
[08:35] <Danny> i don't  have access to the internet
[08:36] <robotgeek> ipfw: yes
[08:36] <Danny> how do i enable root?
[08:36] <ipfw> Danny:  you seem to be on the net right now ?
[08:36] <robotgeek> 3.5.2 is on breezy too
[08:36] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Danny about root
[08:36] <ipfw> robotgeek:  I must have a crappy sources.list again
[08:36] <robotgeek> Danny: read that link
[08:36] <Danny> kk
[08:36] <ipfw> !root
[08:36] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:37] <robotgeek> ipfw: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[08:37] <ipfw> Danny:  I did this: sudo su <passwd> and that su'd me to root user, then passwd <newPass> to set a root passwd, enabling the account ... seemed to work for me ;)
[08:37] <ipfw> Danny:  but again, I've never read the doc, it might explain better
[08:38] <robotgeek> ipfw: he can read, you don't need to paste in here
[08:41] <Danny> kk
[08:48] <kuzmaster> how do i mount my ntfs drive in kubuntu 5.10
[08:48] <kuzmaster> ?????
[08:48] <robotgeek> !ntfs
[08:48] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:48] <ipfw> kuzmaster:  "man mount" should help explain
[08:48] <ipfw> wow, that bot has everything
[08:48] <kuzmaster> so wat would i type into konsole
[08:48] <Hobbsee> a lot, yes
[08:49] <Danny> well
[08:49] <robotgeek> kuzmaster: can you please read that link
[08:49] <Danny> I'm logged in as root
[08:49] <kuzmaster> ok
[08:49] <Danny> and I can edit everything :P
[08:50] <Danny> so...
[08:50] <Danny> I made my primary membergroup root
[08:51] <Den> Hi - Can anyone here help me with a wifi connection problem in Dapper?
[08:52] <robotgeek> Den: sure
[08:52] <robotgeek> !wireless
[08:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[08:52] <robotgeek> !wifi
[08:52] <ubotu> methinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:53] <robotgeek> Den: read those links, and if you need further help, let me know
[08:53] <Den> robotgeek: Would you like to start with a pastebin of me tring to get it working?
[08:53] <robotgeek> Den: k
[08:53] <Den> robotgeek: Thanks - let me read the links now, & I'll come back if that doesn't solve it! :)
[08:54] <Den> robotgeek: Do you know if there are any known problems with wifi in Dapper?
[08:55] <Hobbsee> Den: there are some, why?
[08:55] <Danny> how do I hook up an ethernet connection?
[08:55] <Den> Hobbsee: I am only able to get wifi connected in Dapper about 10% of the time.  But, I get connections 100% in Breezy - so I think Dapper has some problem.
[08:56] <Hobbsee> Den: with ndiswrapper?  what encryption?
[08:56] <Den> Hobbsee: I'd like to find out if there are any known issues that might be causing this.
[08:56] <Den> Hobbsee: no ndisw, no enc
[08:56] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[08:56] <zaba> Den: Dapper is quite unstabile today ;-)
[08:57] <Hobbsee> hehe - that's true
[08:57] <Den> zaba: I'm using an apt update from about 2 days ago.
[08:57] <Den> zaba: Unstable in the networking area today?
[08:58] <zaba> Den: it's unstabile at all
[08:58] <Den> zaba: Unstable with respect to what?  And, very briefly (one sentence) why?
[08:58] <zaba> Den: it's in testing
[08:59] <zaba> Den: I'm using Breezy without problems
[08:59] <zaba> (with KDE 3.5.2
[08:59] <zaba> )
[08:59] <Den> zaba: I'm surprised at that, though I'm not a computer sw person.  But, I thought that with just 2 monts to go, and Breezy being stable, there shouldnt be BIG unstability issues, true?
[09:00] <zaba> Den: yup
[09:00] <zaba> Den: but there can be some issues that can be fixed in next revesions
[09:00] <zaba> Den: including network issues
[09:00] <Den> zaba: Ah, kde.  Yes.  I think this is not a KDE issue, though.  I'm only asking this question in this KDE forum cause noone in #ubuntu+1 was able to help me on it.
[09:01] <Hobbsee> Den: it is semi stable - in that we havent lost X for weeks.  but there are still plenty of bugs
[09:01] <Danny> why isn't my ethernet connection working?
[09:01] <martin_> Is flight 6 out??? If so, where can I find it?
[09:02] <zaba> martin_: flight 5 is latest
[09:02] <martin_> Ok
[09:02] <Den> zaba: Hobbsee Anyone - anyone have any comments about what to check out on wifi?
[09:02] <robotgeek> zaba: err, f6 is out
[09:02] <martin_> Where do you get it? Couldn't find it on kubuntu.org
[09:02] <Hobbsee> Den: all of it - with the console section, not the gnome section
[09:02] <zaba> robotgeek: really? why akregator didnt say it to me???
[09:02] <Hobbsee> martin_: then kubuntu flight 6 is likely not out yet
[09:02] <Den> Hobbsee: ?? Meaning?
[09:02] <robotgeek> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/
[09:02] <Hobbsee> oh really?
[09:03] <Hobbsee> !tell Den about wifi
[09:03] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: got it from raphinks blog
[09:03] <Hobbsee> there's a sectoin about configuring wifi by the console - you want that
[09:03] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: ah ok...
[09:03] <martin_> OMG, thanks dude. So Flight 6 really is out, weee, time to burn :D
[09:04] <Danny> can anyone help with my ethernet connection?
[09:04] <Danny> nite robotgeek
[09:05] <Den> Hobbsee: What were you tryig to communicate about "the console section..."?
[09:05] <XVampireX> martin_: Why don't you just upgrade?
[09:05] <zaba> Danny: I think u should ask this question on foruns ;-)
[09:05] <martin_> Like a dist-upgrade?
[09:05] <XVampireX> I guess
[09:05] <Hobbsee> Den: the section entitled:  Using the command Line
[09:05] <martin_> Hmmm
[09:06] <XVampireX> I don't know what dist-upgrade is all about
[09:06] <Den> Hobbsee: the section _of what_?
[09:06] <Hobbsee> !wifi
[09:06] <ubotu> methinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:07] <zaba> Danny: forums (i meant)
[09:08] <XVampireX> By the way, can I report a bug here or something? Cause I noticed a little bug with kubuntu and kopete where when I am on any application and right click on a desktop item immediately, it crashes kopete and desktop functions won't work until I close kopete
[09:08] <Danny> i'm the master
[09:08] <Danny> I turned on the root account
[09:08] <Danny> then switched the username to my old one
[09:08] <Danny> mwahaha
[09:09] <martin_> Any idea if there are any plans to add options for file system encryption in the installation programs?
[09:09] <Den> If I have Dapper installed, I can just use Adept package mgr to upgrade & I'll have the latest stuff  that's in filght6 - I don't need to reinstall with the flight 6 cd, correct?
[09:09] <Hobbsee> !tell XVampireX about bugs
[09:10] <Hobbsee> !tell XVampireX about bug
[09:10] <XVampireX> thanks
[09:10] <zaba> Den: i'm not sure but I think that u can
[09:11] <Den> zaba: thx
[09:12] <zaba> Den: just try to do that
[09:19] <Den> Is there a way to completely erase a posting from pastebin?
[09:20] <zaba> Den: no
[09:20] <zaba> Den: i think
[09:21] <Den> Who manages or developed pastebin?  Who do I contact to request that they make an improvement?
[09:22] <zaba> on pastebin.com "send feedback"
[09:22] <Hobbsee> what improvement?
[09:22] <Hobbsee> out of curiosity
[09:22] <zaba> Hobbsee: deleting posts manually
[09:23] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[09:23] <Den> Hobbsee: Hobbsee: deleting posts manually
[09:23] <Hobbsee> lol
[09:23] <Den> zaba: Thx for "send feed" info.
[09:24] <Den> Anyone know who maintains http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[09:34] <Danny> how do I install firefox from a tar?
[09:34] <Danny> which file do I run
[09:35] <deviant> use the adept tool, danny
[09:35] <deviant> click on start, then system
[09:35] <Danny> I have no internet
[09:36] <deviant> then are you using a thumbdrive or something to copy to your other comp?
[09:36] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[09:36] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:38] <Danny> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=883976#post883976
[09:48] <sredna> Hm, kopete is crashing while just sitting in the systray :(
[09:48] <matt__> my dell mini pci wireless doesn't seem to be working
[09:48] <matt__> any suggestions?
[09:48] <me2win> kopete sucks :D
[09:48] <me2win> dell sucks :D
[09:48] <matt__> me2win: faggot
[09:48] <matt__> me2win: I hate you
[09:49] <vinboy> hi
[09:49] <vinboy> wat bittorent client do u guys use?
[09:50] <me2win> matt__: im not sure about pci wireless, never used it before, try asking in #ubuntu
[09:50] <matt__> me2win: #beancity ?
[09:50] <me2win> vinboy: utorrent is good, but I use usenet so =/
[09:50] <me2win> matt__: you can join there for an ass kicking
[09:51] <Hobbsee> !coc
[09:51] <ubotu> coc is, like, totally, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:51] <sredna> vinboy: Ktorrent
[09:51] <NeoChaosX> KTorrent
[09:51] <me2win> matt__: why arent you answering your IMs
[09:51] <Hobbsee> matt__: please dont curse other people
[09:51] <matt__> me2win: lol, I gave it away
[09:51] <me2win> Hobbsee: my bad :D, (hes my friend)
[09:51] <vinboy> thanks me2win
[09:51] <Hobbsee> the same appies to me2win
[09:52] <vinboy> thanks sredna
[09:52] <me2win> Hobbsee: my bad :D, (hes my friend)
[09:52] <matt__> Hobbsee: Hobbsee, I'm just screwing with him
[09:52] <Hobbsee> lol ok then
[09:52] <matt__> Hobbsee: I'm actually fatejudger
[09:52] <matt__> Hobbsee: on a friend's computer
[09:52] <Hobbsee> oh fair enough
[09:52] <matt__> this wireless error is weird though
[09:52] <matt__> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[09:52] <matt__> it's like networking is broken in flight 6
[09:53] <matt__> I haven't tried it with flight 5
[09:53] <Hobbsee> ah yeah - i ignored that, and it still worked OK
[09:53] <matt__> well I don't get that on my laptop
[09:53] <matt__> I use a wireless card though
[09:53] <matt__> none of this mini pci stuff
[09:53] <me2win> mini pci ftl
[09:53] <matt__> when I try and get the IP through DHCP it doesn't work
[09:54] <matt__> so I can't really ignore it
[09:55] <sredna> Kopete crashed again :(
[09:55] <sredna> Maybe if I disable icq it would work
[10:00] <vinboy> wat password manager do u guys use?
[10:01] <kev1n> I am trying to install Realplayer10gold and having all sorts of problems. I am using Dapper
[10:05] <kev1n> can anybody help me
[10:09] <crimsun> it would help if you pastebinned the errors
[10:11] <kev1n> crimsun...OK... will do
[10:14] <kev1n> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:14] <crimsun> so install libstdc++5
[10:15] <kev1n> i am a newbie.... i used adept to load everything... should that not be part of the original install if RealPlayer is looking for it?
[10:15] <crimsun> realplayer is _not_ part of the original install.
[10:16] <kev1n> and where do i install it to?
[10:16] <crimsun> install what where?
[10:16] <fatejudger> crimsun: so how's that Audigy 2 fix coming?
[10:16] <kev1n> what directory?
[10:16] <crimsun> fatejudger: stop bugging me, even if you are being facetious.
[10:16] <fatejudger> crimsun: lol
[10:16] <kev1n> libstdc++
[10:16] <crimsun> kev1n: just use Adept to install it.
[10:16] <kev1n> OK.. thanks crimsun
[10:16] <crimsun> (or open a Konsole and type: sudo aptitude install libstdc+5)
[10:17] <crimsun> libstdc++5, rather
[10:18] <glick> hey is anyone here a kubuntu/ubuntu developer?
[10:22] <crimsun> glick: several are, why?
[10:24] <glick> well im talking in #ubuntu-devel about a broken package that has never been upgrade
[10:24] <glick> d
[10:25] <glick> specifically the gtk-gnutella version that comes with breezy
[10:25] <glick> it no longer connects to the network on purpose to force everyone to upgrade
[10:29] <Den> Hi - Where can I get the package   "network-admin"   mentioined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto   Ubuntu ships with a fantastic GUI network tool called network-admin. It can be run from a terminal but it is also readily available under the system menu. (System)->(Administration)->(Networking).
[10:33] <kpaolo> anyone use code::blocks for C???
[10:40] <nalioth> Den: alt-f2 > network-admin (you may have to install it, it's in gnome)
[10:43] <chaoticgeek> hey all, I was having some issues with Kubuntu so I swiched back to ubuntu. I was wondering something about kubuntu. I had the problem where I installed firefox and wanted to use it but it would not allow me to use my mouse wheel, and I could not double click in the address bar to highlight the entire address. DId anyone else have a problem like that in 5.14 I think it was?
[10:44] <Den> nalioth:  Do you know the name of the package I'd need to install to get it?  I searched for "network-admin" in the Adept package manager, & got no results.  Would I have to install the entire 'gnome system'tools' package?
[10:45] <nalioth> yes, you will need gnome-system-tools
[10:46] <Den> anyone know how kynaptic compares to adept functionality or ease of use or other wise?
[10:48] <chaoticgeek> or does anyone know if you can get exstentions for konquor like you can in firefox? I love mouse gestures and the download them all extention
[10:49] <chaoticgeek> and I can not spell today...
[10:50] <chaoticgeek> ok.... Maybe I should come back later when more people would be awake...
[10:51] <luke> maybe
[10:52] <chaoticgeek> I really like KDE, but I love firefox. I just wish they could work together like I want them to work together.
[10:53] <epinephrine> is it possible that kubuntu loaded the wrong sound drivers?
[10:53] <andrea_> hi guys
[10:54] <andrea_> i am in trouble
[10:54] <andrea_> my system is down after changing the reps to dapper
[10:54] <andrea_> can somebody help me?
[10:54] <epinephrine> in what way is it down? what doesn't work?
[10:54] <andrea_> the X system
[10:54] <andrea_> kde doesn't start
[10:55] <andrea_> i have tried to startx
[10:55] <andrea_> and i get an error, i can copy it partially by hand
[10:55] <epinephrine> is this after apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:55] <andrea_> epinephrine: nope... i just used synaptics
[10:55] <andrea_> i changed the sources names from breezy to dapper
[10:56] <andrea_> and then i launched a smart upgrade all
[10:56] <epinephrine> see what sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does
[10:56] <andrea_> ok let me try
[10:56] <epinephrine> I'm not familiar with synaptic
[10:56] <andrea_> tnx in the meantime
[10:57] <andrea_> ok i tried it
[10:57] <nalioth> andrea_: join #ubuntu+1 to get help with dapper
[10:57] <andrea_> a lots of *** depends on *** but not installed
[10:57] <epinephrine> did it want to upgrade or install anything?
[10:57] <nalioth> andrea_: dapper is broken (and will be until june)
[10:57] <epinephrine> dapper works fine here
[10:57] <nalioth> andrea_: if your new dapper system has network, i'd wait a couple of days and upgrade it
[10:58] <nalioth> epinephrine: dapper upgrades killed 2 of my test boxesw
[10:58] <epinephrine> :o
[10:58] <andrea_> what do you mean killed?
[10:58] <andrea_> i need my laptop back to life
[10:59] <andrea_> what's the kde basic package name?
[10:59] <andrea_> it seems most of dependancies for kde are missing
[10:59] <epinephrine> try letting dis-uprade do its thing
[11:00] <epinephrine> dist even
[11:00] <andrea_> it doesn't do anything
[11:00] <andrea_> it says simply missing stuff
[11:00] <andrea_> the error i told you before
[11:05] <nalioth> andrea_: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install" from a terminal?
[11:06] <andrea_> i am trying it now!! :)
[11:06] <andrea_> i launched it just before you told me
[11:07] <nalioth> andrea_: a big problem with upgrading to dapper is that some pkgs don't keep up with their dependencies
[11:07] <andrea_> i see
[11:07] <andrea_> maybe my sources file is wrong ..
[11:07] <nalioth> one should wait until after it finalizes to upgrade (at least wait til a Release Candidate appears)
[11:07] <andrea_> can you take a look?
[11:08] <andrea_> yes, as soon as i can get back to have a working kde i will come back to breezy
[11:08] <andrea_> :)
[11:08] <nalioth> !paste
[11:08] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:08] <nalioth> andrea_: put it in a pastebin please ^^^
[11:08] <andrea_> nalioth: i can't paste :)
[11:09] <andrea_> i will just make a copy and link it in my http server
[11:09] <andrea_> cp /etc/apt/sources.list /home/andrea/shared-folder/sources.lis
[11:09] <andrea_> damn it.. wrong place to write :)
[11:09] <Den> Hi - How do I find out what myencryption settings are for my wifi, which is eth0, on my laptop? (I suspect it might be the problem that on Dapper I can't connect to the net, and ifconfig shows all RX packets are errors.) I'm asking here cause I got no response on #u+1.  Any ideas?
[11:09] <nalioth> Den: it is best not to use encryption
[11:10] <JohnFlux> nalioth say what
[11:11] <Den> nalioth: Yes, but my wifi is not working, I never tried to set encryption, and iwconfig shows all RX packets are errors, so I'm thinking somenow Kub Dapper has set encryption without my knowing it, and that's why I can't connect.  Any ideas how to fix it?
[11:12] <nalioth> i doubt very much anything has been set by dapper
[11:12] <kpaolo> does anybody use ntfs with ubuntu??
[11:12] <andrea_> nalioth: http://tallia1.myftp.org/shared-folder/sources.list
[11:12] <kpaolo> libntfs i mean
[11:12] <nalioth> more likely you've been hit with the same effect a lot of us have
[11:12] <kpaolo> does it work properly?
[11:13] <nalioth> andrea_: did you happen to upgrade from hoary to dapper?
[11:14] <Den> Is there a "network-manager-kde" ?  How do I get to "network-manager-kde"?
[11:14] <andrea_> nalioth: no, from breezy to dapper
[11:14] <andrea_> the first entry was the first ubuntu cd that i had
[11:15] <Den> nalioth: Was your comment "more likely you've been hit with the same effect a lot of us have" addressed to me?  If yes, what are you referring to?
[11:15] <nalioth> just asking. andrea_
[11:15] <andrea_> nalioth: it says something no X screen
[11:15] <nalioth> Den: i had 2 test machines lose their networking abilities due to dapper upgrades
[11:15] <nalioth> andrea_: install kubuntu-desktop
[11:16] <Den> nalioth: When? Is there a bug report on that?  Do you know if anyone is urgently working on getting that fixed?
[11:16] <andrea_> osshit there are 300 MB to download
[11:16] <andrea_> :)
[11:16] <nalioth> Den: of course they are
[11:17] <Den> nalioth: Great!  Where do I look to find out ASAP if there is a fix for it?
[11:17] <nalioth> Den: ask in #ubuntu
[11:18] <Den> nalioth: When was the first time the Dapper update lost networking on your boxes?
[11:19] <nalioth> for the amd64 box, a month ago, for the ppc box 5 days back
[11:19] <Den> nalioth: Thx -
[11:20] <Den> Anyone know if networking is messed up in the current Dapper  for ?X86
[11:20] <nalioth> Den: my x86 test box is still functioning fine
[11:23] <Den> nalioth: You're confusing me.  You said "more likely you've been hit with the same effect a lot of us have", but then said "my x86 test box is still functioning fine". - So, is networking operating OK or not?
[11:23] <alfatau> hello, i'm trying to get the names of the upgradeable packages and upgrade priority for using them in a script. can you help me? i tried grep-dctrl but i'm unable to get info about only upgradeable packages.
[11:23] <nalioth> my x86 dapper test box is fully functional
[11:26] <Den> nalioth: Ok, so what then did you mean about "being hit with the same effect ..."???   How is your networking finctional, if you've been hit with that effect?
[11:27] <nalioth> Den: my ppc and amd64 boxes both lost their networking
[11:27] <nalioth> i've talked to folks who run x86 dapper boxes who've lost networking
[11:28] <Den> nalioth: So, you havent' updated your box since you heard others lost their networkin?  Ie, yours still works cause you have refrained from updating it?
[11:28] <nalioth> Den: there are people in #ubuntu+1 now
[11:28] <nalioth> Den: i update it every day
[11:28] <nalioth> how else am i gonna file bugs?
[11:30] <Den> nalioth: I'm trying to understand you, but I can't understand how you hypothesize I've "been hit with the same efface a lot of us havee" when your own box is working.  Would you clarify that inconsistency for me?
[11:32] <Den> nalioth: How could your box be working if it's "been hit with the same effect"?
[11:32] <nalioth> Den: my personal x86 box is still functioning fine. i know a few users (who i know run x86) who have experienced the 'network loss' due to upgrade. my amd64 and ppc boxen have also fallen to it
[11:32] <nalioth> Den: i started with three (3) test boxes
[11:33] <nalioth> i now have one left that is still working
[11:33] <nalioth> 2 of them lost their networking
[11:34] <Den> nalioth: Well, how could there be an ongoing "effect" if your x86 box is still working, and has been updated to the latest apt-get?
[11:34] <nalioth> Den: i lost 2 boxes (and all the daily image attempts to bring back the network have been for naught)
[11:36] <Den> nalioth: So, why didn't your x86 box get lost , if there is still an "effect"?  That's what I don't understand about what you've said.
[11:36] <nalioth> Den: there are millions of combinations of hardware. some are gonna have problems that others do not.
[11:37] <alfatau> hello, i'm trying to get the names of the upgradeable packages and upgrade priority for using them in a script. can you help me? i tried grep-dctrl but i'm unable to get info about only upgradeable packages.
[11:38] <nalioth> alfatau: ask in #ubuntu
[11:41] <__filip_> How do i turn off the icon that jumping when i start a program?
[11:43] <hugelmopf> __filip_: only for a certain program or for all programs?
[11:43] <__filip_> For all programs.
[11:44] <hugelmopf> System Settings -- Panel -- Launch Feedback (?) (i don't know exactly, what it is called in english)
[11:45] <__filip_> Okey, i dont either have English.
[11:45] <__filip_> I found it.
[11:46] <n3storm> Hi everyone
[11:47] <nalioth> hi
[11:50] <JohnFlux> has anyone got scim working in dapper?
[12:30] <sredna> Anybody got printing with CUPS working in dapper?
[12:37] <sredna> I need to print something
[12:45] <pastryness> whenever i add mp3s to my amarok playlist it keeps saying 'Some media could not be loaded (Not playable)' .... what can i do to fix this? its mp3s, it should be playable
[12:48] <n3storm> sredna: what is your problem with cups? I may help...
[12:48] <n3storm> I'm not using Dapper, though
[12:48] <sredna> n3storm: Kdeprinter cant connect, ipp error it claims
[12:49] <sredna> n3storm: The config seems right, the server is at localhost:631
[12:49] <n3storm> try  the web interface http://localhost:631
[12:49] <eriksti> Hey guys.  My "Network Settings" crash when I try to configure a network interface .. anyone else having this problem?  What's the alternative way to configure it?
[12:49] <sredna> And the permissions for the admin location is fine, and I am a member of all relevant groups
[12:50] <sredna> n3storm: I haven't found a way to add a printer there
[12:50] <sredna> Maybe I need to state my username
[12:50] <n3storm> click on Administration
[12:51] <n3storm> what does it say?
[12:51] <_harm> hi, i want to copy a folder via consule how do i do this?
[12:52] <n3storm> cp -R foldername destinantion, _harm
[12:52] <andrea_> guys
[12:52] <andrea_> little problem
[12:52] <sredna> n3storm: It claims to have found 2 printers that I do not have
[12:52] <andrea_> if i want to come back to breezy from dapper?
[12:52] <andrea_> i changed back the sources.list to the breezy ones
[12:53] <n3storm> sredna: are you on a network?
[12:53] <sredna> A epson and a canon, both on parralel port #1
[12:53] <andrea_> anybody can give me an hint?
[12:53] <sredna> n3storm: Well, I have a router here
[12:53] <n3storm> andrea_: you can't or is almost impossible
[12:53] <sredna> And there are other PCs connected to it
[12:53] <andrea_> ......osshit
[12:53] <andrea_> so i HAVE to fix dapper
[12:53] <andrea_> nice...
[12:53] <XVampireX_> What do I do with .sh files?
[12:53] <n3storm> sredna: those are the printers
[12:53] <_harm> harm@debian:/media/data/Backup/Downloads$ /media/data/Backup/Downloads/AnyWear(1).rar
[12:53] <_harm> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `1'
[12:53] <XVampireX_> It's a game I downloaded
[12:54] <sredna> n3storm: I dont' want them, I want my hp that is in parallel port 1 HERE
[12:54] <sredna> Maybe if I put in a usb cable instead
[12:54] <_harm> ok.. konqeurer automatically loads any index.html file even from local harddrive how do i disable that?
[12:54] <n3storm> have you messed with the cups.conf file?
[12:54] <sredna> n3storm: No
[12:55] <n3storm> the problem is there, cups is trying to discover all printers in you network
[12:55] <sredna> I dont' want it to
[12:55] <n3storm> sredna: go to /etc/cups/
[12:56] <n3storm> srednan: where did you uncheck that?
[12:56] <n3storm> sredan: where did you uncheck that?
[12:56] <sredna> n3storm: The admin page in the web interface
[12:56] <sredna> But ti doesnt do shit, they are still there
[12:56] <n3storm> so dapper is using cups 1.2
[12:56] <n3storm> great
[12:56] <_nathan_> Can any body help me with a root password problem?
[12:57] <n3storm> _nathan_: maybe
[12:57] <n3storm> but there a lot of people asking questions here before reading anything on the web
[12:57] <n3storm> I hope your problem is a real problem ;)
[12:57] <texjoachim> hi there!
[12:57] <n3storm> go ahead, _nathan_
[12:58] <_nathan_> I installed in expert mode an entered a password... Now I don't seem to be able to access anything that requires one.
[12:58] <sredna> I miss the correct usb cable
[12:59] <sredna> n3storm: What should I do in /etc/cups?
[12:59] <n3storm> parallel or usb?
[12:59] <sredna> My printer is parrallel (hp 5550)
[12:59] <n3storm> sredna: nothing nothing, dapper seems to be using cups1.2rc which includes more options on the web interface
[12:59] <purplefeltangel> why is KDE better than Gnome?
[12:59] <sredna> n3storm: But printing does not work here
[12:59] <andrea_> anybody answered me?
[12:59] <andrea_> i can't go up and check :(
[01:00] <sredna> purplefeltangel: Who says it is?
[01:00] <_harm> ok.. konqeurer automatically loads any index.html file even from local harddrive how do i disable that?
[01:00] <purplefeltangel> sredna: Linus Torvalds, for one
[01:00] <sredna> purplefeltangel: But basically because it's more consistent and better integrated
[01:00] <n3storm> _nathan_, try "sudo touch file" on your konsole
[01:00] <andrea_> !dapper
[01:00] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:00] <purplefeltangel> sredna: how so?
[01:00] <andrea_> exit
[01:00] <sredna> purplefeltangel: Really, see for yourself
[01:00] <andrea_> \j #ubuntu+1
[01:00] <andrea_> exit
[01:00] <tvoss> hi all
[01:00] <andrea_> \exit
[01:00] <purplefeltangel> sredna: i've tried KDE but i can't get over how  ugly it is :S
[01:00] <andrea_> q
[01:01] <sredna> purplefeltangel: Then maybe it's not for you
[01:01] <purplefeltangel> sredna: to me it looks like a really tacky, flashy cross between Luna and Quartz Compositor
[01:01] <tvoss> purplefeltangel: Try the qtCurve-debs from kde-look.org :-)
[01:01] <n3storm> purplefeltangel: people using kubuntu ""likes"" more KDE than Gnome
[01:01] <purplefeltangel> sredna: everyone seems to love it though
[01:01] <ccc_> purplefeltangel: it's very configurable. just change the looks.
[01:01] <purplefeltangel> n3storm: pardon?
[01:01] <andrea_> quit
[01:01] <andrea_> \quit
[01:01] <_nathan_> ok
[01:01] <tvoss> purplefeltangel: Gives a nice gnomeish l'n'f:-)
[01:01] <purplefeltangel> tvo: l'n'f?
[01:01] <ccc_> purplefeltangel: my kde looks nothing like the standard kubuntu one. you can change just about anything.
[01:01] <tvoss> purplefeltangel: look'n'feel
[01:02] <n3storm> andrea is "/part"
[01:02] <sredna> n3storm: I have the following problems with it: It does not detect my printer (on gentoo it did), and there appears to be no way to add it
[01:02] <tvoss> Does anyone know if there is a kde-port of the new dapper-gnome-icon-theme?
[01:02] <_nathan_> Now I am getting su returned an error
[01:03] <n3storm> purplefeltangel: I mean, there must be as many reasons as persons for that, in the end is a likes dislikes question
[01:03] <n3storm> in my opinion
[01:03] <_nathan_> What is "sudo touch file"?
[01:03] <_nathan_> Supposed to do?
[01:03] <sredna> _nathan_: Update the mtime of the file on behalf of root
[01:04] <n3storm> sredna: have a look at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[01:04] <n3storm> is the config file
[01:04] <n3storm> and also have a look at the following url
[01:04] <sredna> n3storm: I have no idea what to look for
[01:05] <sredna> It's a apache type config file, that was now changed by the web interface, which makes it more unreadable if that is possible
[01:05] <_nathan_> is there a way to reset the root password so that it is like a normal install?
[01:06] <n3storm> sredna: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/
[01:07] <tvoss> _nathan_: That means you want to have a normal root user?
[01:07] <_nathan_> I think so... I am new to all of this. a shadow password
[01:08] <_nathan_> Funny thing is that I can see it here /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat
[01:08] <_nathan_> So I tryed to access it using the recover command from the install cd
[01:09] <_nathan_> Cannot log into the root account either... At least not from kde login screen
[01:09] <freaked> hi all. how can i install the nvidia driver in kubuntu?
[01:09] <_nathan_> adept
[01:10] <bhna> freaked: sart adept and search for nvidia
[01:10] <tvoss> _nathan_: There is no "regular" root account in (k)ubuntu available ... to create one, open a terminal and type 'sudo passwd'.
[01:10] <_nathan_> ok
[01:11] <freaked> what is a smp kernel for?
[01:11] <_nathan_> then what log in as root?
[01:12] <tvoss> _nathan_: Logging in from the login manager as 'root' is disabled by default...you have to enable it by reconfiguring kdm or gdm, don't know which one u r using!
[01:12] <bhna> _nathan_: with your user password
[01:12] <sredna> The concept of discarding the main control panel when a function is chosen is really odd
[01:13] <_nathan_> How do I access kdm gdm?
[01:13] <tvoss> sredna: Same for me :-)
[01:13] <bhna> sredna: alt-f2 kcontrol
[01:13] <sredna> I know, bhna :)
[01:13] <_nathan_> su returned an error
[01:14] <tvoss> _nathan_: What does the error message say?
[01:14] <bhna> _nathan_: sudo
[01:14] <sredna> _nathan_: sudo -i will give you a root shell. Kdesu <command> will run whichever GUI app as root
[01:15] <freaked> can someone please point me to the wiki page where the installation of the nvidia driver is described?
[01:15] <sredna> Can I downgrade the annoying ***** to something that works?
[01:17] <_nathan_> This is pissing me off I guess I will reinstall again...
[01:17] <pastryness> freaked, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8178.html
[01:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[01:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> now it works
[01:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dapper -> error with ATI drivers :(
[01:17] <_nathan_> It takes for ever
[01:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> reboot time though
[01:18] <_nathan_> is there anyway to install from the hardrive instead of CD
[01:19] <_nathan_> I don't have access to the net all of the time and I would like to be able to recover the packages I install when I have to reinstall
[01:19] <sredna> DAMNED
[01:19] <sredna> Does anyone know a distro with a working CUPS system?
[01:20] <pastryness> im having trouble getting 4 channels to work. i pick 4 channels on kmix but still only 2 of my speakers get sound out. im using nForce 2
[01:21] <sredna> And it seems useless to do anything about this at all, since it does not seem to pick up my printer anyways. But why on earth not?
[01:23] <ubuntu> Hi. Is anyone free to help with a problem?
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> declan:  ask the question, and if someone knows, they will answer
[01:23] <Riddell> declan: just ask
[01:24] <declan> You are gonna sigh at the newbie, but I upgraded from breezy to dapper using apt
[01:24] <djib> hey, what are the "proposed" repos ?
[01:24] <declan> Looks like the GUI wont load  and I dont know how to get back
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb Hobbsee
[01:25] <mikeblamires> declan, you don't have an old nvidia card do you?
[01:25] <Riddell> declan: does X work?
[01:25] <Hobbsee> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[01:25] <declan> i dont think x is working. It says it had a problem with display
[01:25] <Hobbsee> evening Riddell
[01:25] <declan> i have a prosavage s3 integrated
[01:25] <Riddell> morning Hobbsee
[01:26] <Riddell> declan: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:26] <Riddell> you can try and see if X is working with the command `X` and quitting with control-alt-backspace
[01:28] <declan> thanks. I am running off the live cd at the moment so i can use my machine.
[01:28] <declan> Is there anything else I can try?
[01:29] <sredna> I appear to have a lot of stuff loaded that I dont' need - bluetooth for example
[01:29] <Riddell> sredna: cups in dapper is broken, in the released 5.10 (breezy) it should work fine
[01:29] <Riddell> sredna: don't use it then
[01:30] <sredna> Riddell: It appears that that is the solution
[01:30] <Riddell> declan: copy the xorg.conf files from the working live CD
[01:31] <Riddell> declan: and make sure you have fully upgraded and kubuntu-desktop is still installed?
[01:31] <Riddell> sredna: where does bluetooth appear?
[01:31] <declan> erm.... how do I do that? I am still a newb (I know, i shouldnt have got dapper!)
[01:32] <sredna> Riddell: I was looking at dmesg output, to see if there was something about my printer
[01:32] <Hobbsee> Riddell: is there something that makes the bluetooth stuff not automatically be installed, at the first install?
[01:32] <_nathan> How do I turn off the root password
[01:32] <Hobbsee> seems a bit silly, if one does not have any bluetooth devices
[01:32] <sredna> Riddell: There is a whole bunch of lines saying  '[4308274.421000]  lp0: ECP mode' btw, but I have no idea what that means
[01:32] <Riddell> Hobbsee: no, but the bluetooth stuff should keep itself hidden on the GUI until it detects a bluetooth device
[01:32] <_nathan> Niether the root nor the my user pass get me access to any of the control systems.
[01:33] <Hobbsee> Riddell: hmmm...there are still programs in the kmenu for it...
[01:33] <Riddell> _nathan: in breezy?
[01:33] <_nathan> yes
[01:33] <_nathan> not upgraded
[01:33] <_nathan> can't access adept
[01:33] <Riddell> Hobbsee: sure, but there's lots of programmes installed you don't use, we can't pick a perfect selection of programmes :)
[01:34] <Riddell> _nathan: make sure breezy-updates is installed
[01:34] <_nathan> I know that there has got to be a way to fix this with out reinstalling
[01:34] <_nathan> Can't update without access to adept.
[01:34] <_nathan> can I update from a console? I seem to be able to access root there
[01:34] <Riddell> declan: copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere it won't disappear when you reboot
[01:35] <Riddell> _nathan: yes
[01:35] <_nathan> what is the command?
[01:35] <Riddell> _nathan: edit  /etc/apt/sources.list to enable breezy-updates and security  ; sudo apt-get update;  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:35] <_nathan> Ok...
[01:36] <Hobbsee> Riddell: that is true.
[01:40] <declan> is there an easy way to go back to breezy once I have used dist-upgrade?
[01:41] <Flosoft> hey
[01:41] <Flosoft> how do I create a network boot server on my Kubuntu?
[01:41] <Flosoft> so that pcs can boot an network image from it?
[01:43] <Riddell> declan: no
[01:44] <_nathan> Thank you it seems to be working
[01:45] <declan> Oh dear. In that case, whats the best way to backup my data and reinstall Kubuntu(breezy)?
[01:45] <_nathan> seems faster than using adept
[01:47] <_nathan> Is it possible to reset the root password to the default in a normal install?
[01:49] <_harm> I need to disable the auto open index.html! i cant view a folder cuz everytime konqeurer just opens the index
[01:50] <jind> Long time until dapper is released? ca?
[01:50] <_nathan> I would like to check out gnome will installing it hurt kde
[01:52] <eriksti> Could anyone send me sources.list?  I've messed it up, and I'm not able to receive the keys when using the Srouces.list generator
[01:52] <Hobbsee> !repos
[01:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:53] <eriksti> thanks, Hobbsee, I'll check it out
[01:53] <Flosoft> OdyX ... wheres the torrent?
[01:53] <Flosoft> I can also put it onto my mirror server
[01:54] <OdyX> Flosoft: im looking for the live => http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-live-i386.iso.torrent
[01:54] <OdyX> and for the install => http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-install-i386.iso.torrent
[01:54] <Flosoft> ok
[01:54] <Flosoft> one sec
[01:55] <Flosoft> i'll add it to my torrent server and mirrors
[01:55] <knoppixTallia1> hi there
[01:55] <bimberi> _nathan: no, should be fine, you can install ubuntu-desktop to get the full ubuntu gnome setup
[01:55] <knoppixTallia1> i still have a problem with dapper
[01:55] <knoppixTallia1> when i did the upgrade i dunno why the plug and play system have been uninstalled
[01:55] <bimberi> _nathan: the root password isn't set during the normal install (hence disabling login to the root account)
[01:56] <Flosoft> ok ... added both of them
[01:56] <knoppixTallia1> is it easy to "create" the eth device?
[01:56] <ccc_> jind: june 1st
[01:56] <OdyX> Flosoft: Cool
[01:56] <knoppixTallia1> as hotplug do?
[01:56] <Flosoft> upload limit per torrent: 4096 kbit/s
[01:56] <jind> ccc_, thanks!
[01:57] <Flosoft> ok ... they're running
[01:57] <n3storm> sredna: one thing, the cups version you have installed on dapper is a beta or release candidate
[01:57] <Flosoft> brb
[01:58] <n3storm> I think you will find many more problems and without more background on debian system....
[01:58] <n3storm> in my point of view you should move to kubuntu breezy, the stable release
[01:58] <knoppixTallia1> in dapper, which are the packages that do plug and play?
[01:59] <|Flosoft|> hey again
[01:59] <knoppixTallia1> mine are uninstalled, so i can't even connect to the net and download them....
[01:59] <knoppixTallia1> plz i need help
[01:59] <_nathan> Bbimberi: I realize that but now that it is activated I would like to deactivate it
[01:59] <sredna> n3storm: Had I foreseen this I would have tried that. I was adviced that there was no serious problems left with dapper
[01:59] <ubuntu> my system won't boot i've dapper
[01:59] <Hobbsee> n3storm: sredna's a developer...he can probably cope...
[01:59] <n3storm> knoppixTallia1: please stop installing Dapper as your first linux distribution, is unstable yet, try Kubuntu Breezy
[01:59] <ubuntu> have other people the same problem
[02:00] <n3storm> sredna: are you reeding knoppixTallia1 prob?
[02:00] <sredna> ?
[02:00] <knoppixTallia1> n3storm, i updated breezy
[02:01] <knoppixTallia1> and they tell me there's no way of coming back
[02:01] <knoppixTallia1> the problem is that i have no plug and play
[02:01] <knoppixTallia1> that is i can't connect to the net
[02:01] <n3storm> Hobbsee: but he "needs" to print and he is using a beta distro in a production enviroment
[02:01] <Hobbsee> n3storm: true.
[02:01] <n3storm> knoppixTallia1: try installing hotplug and udev packages...
[02:01] <Hobbsee> printing is one of the few places with great big errors, on everyone's system
[02:02] <_nathan> Still getting the su problem... perhaps a reboot
[02:02] <n3storm> Hobbsee: mmm, not in mandriva, sorry to say
[02:02] <n3storm> and Breezy is behaving perfectly in my system
[02:02] <Hobbsee> n3storm: knoppixTallia1's getting help in #ubuntu+1 as well, FYI
[02:02] <n3storm> Hobbsee: thanks very much
[02:02] <Hobbsee> n3storm: i meant within the people running kubuntu dapper
[02:02] <Hobbsee> although mine's working - no idea why -
[02:03] <Hobbsee> sometimes it works if you upgrade off earlier versions, i dont know why
[02:03] <Hobbsee> oh well
[02:03] <n3storm> Hobbsee: Dapper is using cups beta too, so it's a beta over a beta!!! ;)
[02:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:03] <knoppixTallia1> Hobbsee, what's the "new" hotplug for dapper?
[02:03] <Hobbsee> oh so we do have the beta in there now?  that must be why
[02:03] <knoppixTallia1> Hobbsee, i need to download it...
[02:03] <Hobbsee> got no idea - i dont think they were having one
[02:04] <n3storm> I just compiled cups 1.2rc1 to help sredna
[02:04] <sredna> Wow
[02:04] <n3storm> and it goes very nice
[02:04] <knoppixTallia1> Hobbsee, so how plug and play is made?
[02:04] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure
[02:04] <sredna> Come to DK, and I'll buy you a beer
[02:04] <knoppixTallia1> Tm_T, hey.... dapper is not really working as you said..
[02:04] <knoppixTallia1> Tm_T, i have no more plug and play
[02:04] <Hobbsee> but you can plug in a USB mouse or whatever, and it'll work
[02:05] <n3storm> sredna: it went very easy, and I'm a kind of printing system migration expert at my job
[02:05] <knoppixTallia1> Hobbsee, no i can't
[02:05] <knoppixTallia1> Hobbsee, no plug and play
[02:05] <knoppixTallia1> Hobbsee, on ubuntu+1 they say "udev"
[02:05] <Hobbsee> well, usually it's possible
[02:06] <Hobbsee> yeah, i'm in that room as well
[02:06] <Hobbsee> have you installed udev, and tried it yet?
[02:06] <knoppixTallia1> i can't
[02:06] <knoppixTallia1> i have no connection under kubuntu
[02:06] <knoppixTallia1> i have to download them by hand
[02:06] <Hobbsee> packages.ubuntu.org
[02:06] <knoppixTallia1> thnx :)
[02:07] <asraniel> anyone knows how to dowload music from the ipod with amarok?
[02:07] <sredna> n3storm: Do you suggest that I do that (compile) as well?
[02:07] <Hobbsee> asraniel: ask that in #amarok if you get no answer here
[02:07] <avinoam> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup an ad-hoc wireless network so that my laptop with ubuntu can host internet for my friend's laptop with windows xp. I couldn't find a howto. Any ideas?
[02:08] <n3storm> sredna: no, I don't think so
[02:08] <n3storm> mmmm
[02:08] <sredna> Ok
[02:08] <n3storm> sredna: have you created a root user?
[02:08] <sredna> n3storm: No
[02:08] <n3storm> please do
[02:08] <sredna> Sodo adduser root?
[02:08] <sredna> Sudo
[02:08] <simian__> i've been playing doom3 but when i exit my screen resolution is all wrong
[02:08] <n3storm> "sudo passwd"
[02:09] <simian__> is there a command i can type to fix this
[02:09] <sredna> n3storm: Done
[02:09] <genioreal> hi i just switch yo kubuntu, how can i add a /home/ icon on the desktop?
[02:09] <n3storm> try to do "su" now
[02:09] <sredna> Works
[02:09] <Hobbsee> genioreal: right click on desktop, create new, link to location
[02:09] <n3storm> go to administration again
[02:10] <n3storm> try this link http://localhost:631/admin?op=add-printer
[02:10] <n3storm> sredna:
[02:12] <bh4tw> you could create an image of the harddrive for easy recovery
[02:12] <bh4tw> sorry wrong post
[02:14] <sredna> n3storm: I can do that, waiting for it to list ppd files
[02:15] <n3storm> ok
[02:15] <sredna> I selected HP(HPLIP)
[02:15] <n3storm> ok
[02:15] <sredna> With HP, the model was not listed
[02:15] <n3storm> wait
[02:16] <n3storm> 990C model is the equivalent
[02:17] <n3storm> sredna: did you find it?
[02:17] <sredna> Yes
[02:17] <sredna> It works
[02:17] <sredna> Thank you very much
[02:17] <sredna> It prints a test page
[02:17] <n3storm> sredna: great!
[02:17] <sredna> You are my hero of the day, truely
[02:17] <n3storm> hahaha
[02:17] <n3storm> not at all
[02:17] <n3storm> I'm happy too
[02:22] <sredna> n3storm: Interrestingly, the kde printing system is now working as well
[02:23] <sredna> Must have been the missing root account
[02:23] <n3storm> I am sure
[02:23] <n3storm> I always enable it as soon as I can
[02:23] <sredna> Well, there are a few places where it is required
[02:24] <genioreal> is the Kubuntu Flight 6 stable yet?
[02:24] <Hobbsee> genioreal: dapper is not stable.
[02:24] <n3storm> genioreal: no it isn't
[02:24] <n3storm> Hobbsee: :)
[02:24] <genioreal> ok
[02:24] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:25] <Hobbsee> dapper is not stable, and if you try to use an exploit, then i will ban you.  both of these are very simple facts.  lol
[02:26] <_nathan> Back again I am still getting the "su returned an error" after the upgrade...
[02:26] <Hobbsee> _nathan: why not use sudo -s?
[02:28] <sredna> Now I fixed it to use the hpjis driver, so I'm one happy chap
[02:28] <n3storm> hplip is the substitute of the hpjis sredna
[02:28] <_nathan> ?
[02:28] <n3storm> hplip, in fact, includes hpjis
[02:29] <sredna> n3storm: I used the HP (HPLIP) group in the kde add pritner wizard, which gave me the driver combination Foomatic/hpjis for my model
[02:29] <n3storm> ok ok
[02:29] <_nathan> Hobbsee: I want to launch adept or kcontrol
[02:29] <n3storm> if it works for you go ahead
[02:30] <Hobbsee> _nathan: kdesu appname?
[02:30] <GNU_Style>  is microsoft really patenting the ONES and ZEROS?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> or sudo -s in a shell, to get a root shell, and then the app name
[02:30] <leonidis> good moring every one
[02:30] <leonidis> i am a new kubuntu user
[02:30] <VRWarper> no, just the real number set
[02:30] <n3storm> Hobbsee: I dont't agree
[02:31] <leonidis> located in greece
[02:31] <leonidis> and i would lik some  help
[02:31] <n3storm> you can't run X apps from su, do you?
[02:31] <Hobbsee> su doesnt work on kubuntu - from sudo -s, yes you can
[02:31] <Hobbsee> i think so, anywya
[02:31] <leonidis> i would like to play radio statios from network but how can i do that?????
[02:32] <Hobbsee> n3storm: looks like you can
[02:32] <n3storm> I can't
[02:32] <_nathan> I just want this to work... Click on adept -> enter password -> get quanta or 3d chess or what ever
[02:32] <n3storm> :(
[02:32] <Hobbsee> weird
[02:32] <VRWarper> :| just sudo adept
[02:33] <VRWarper> or if that doesnt work you can try
[02:33] <VRWarper> kdesu adept
[02:33] <_nathan> ok
[02:33] <VRWarper> they appear to do the same thing except kdesu is something part of kde
[02:33] <VRWarper> ^^ oh well
[02:34] <Hobbsee> !+kdesu
[02:34] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"
[02:35] <VRWarper> meh i guess you are suppose to use kdesu
[02:36] <_nathan> I already ran the update to no avail
[02:36] <_nathan> The problem has something to do with the fact that I enabled the root password
[02:36] <VRWarper> does it?
[02:37] <VRWarper> i have root enabled too
[02:37] <VRWarper> and sudo/kdesu works fine for me
[02:37] <VRWarper> what happens when you do kdesu adept
[02:38] <_nathan> I enter my password and the "su conversation fails"
[02:38] <_nathan> I did not have this problem last time I installed and I have installed a lot and I am tired of it.
[02:38] <GNU_Style> any names of good and simple FTP anf HTTP server for windows?
[02:39] <_nathan> actually I did but the update seemed to fix it
[02:39] <_nathan> Maybe if I log in as root and run the update again
[02:40] <_nathan> sudo apt-updater does not seem to do anything
[02:40] <_nathan> just returns the prompt
[02:41] <VRWarper> GNU_Style: why are you asking that in a linux channel -_-
[02:41] <_nathan> Maybe becaue it will work
[02:42] <Chousuke> GNU_Style: a windows port of ftpd? :p
[02:42] <GNU_Style> cuz i want GNU, yes if theres a port what name?
[02:43] <Chousuke> GNU_Style: have you used google? :P
[02:44] <GNU_Style> Chousuke, yes, but I want peoples opinion
[02:44] <Chousuke> Hmm :/
[02:44] <Chousuke> Well I have no idea what is a good windows FTP server.
[02:45] <vinboy> bulletproof ftp server
[02:45] <_nathan> Is there some way to launch gui stuff from a root shell. I seem to have access there
[02:45] <Chousuke> vinboy: that's not GNU stuff though. ;P
[02:45] <vinboy> ooooopsss
[02:46] <vinboy> sorry i didn't read above
[02:46] <vinboy> haha
[02:46] <vinboy> yea bulletproof isn't gnu
[02:46] <Chousuke> if you want GNU stuff you'd be better off using a Free operating system for starters.
[02:46] <_nathan> what does touch file do?
[02:47] <Chousuke> _nathan: it's the same as if you had edited the file
[02:48] <Chousuke> also, a file by that name will be created if it didn't already exist
[02:48] <_nathan> I don't understand... Like a save as? Some file has been modified now "touch file" tells the system
[02:48] <sponzor> how to start sshd in kubuntu?
[02:48] <vinboy> i feel that kubuntu is nicer than ubuntu
[02:48] <vinboy> and ubuntu is much better than many other linux os out there
[02:48] <Chousuke> _nathan: touch just simulates modification.
[02:49] <_nathan> From where, who manipulated it?
[02:49] <Chousuke> _nathan: good for doing stuff which depends on file modification times and other stuff.
[02:49] <_nathan> like what changing a password?
[02:49] <natasha> how can I change my user name?
[02:49] <sponzor> how to start ssh server in kubuntu?
[02:49] <sponzor> ?
[02:49] <Chousuke> _nathan: no.
[02:50] <_nathan> I am lost here I have no access to any of the administrative tools in kde. What good is this system
[02:50] <Chousuke> _nathan: sometimes you want a file to appear as if it had been modified, without actually opening it in an application and saving it.
[02:50] <Chousuke> _nathan: touch simply does that.
[02:50] <Blippe> sponzor, get "open ssh server" from synaptic...
[02:50] <Chousuke> _nathan: use sudo
[02:50] <_nathan> Damn I am whining...
[02:50] <_nathan> sudo what
[02:51] <Chousuke> well, sudo apt-get install <application> for example
[02:51] <Chousuke> to install apps
[02:51] <_nathan> sudo kcontrol does nothing and i cannot figure out how to launch it from a console
[02:51] <Chousuke> all of the GUI application should prompt for a password when needed
[02:51] <Chousuke> applications*'
[02:52] <_nathan> what the hell good is a gui front end for apt-get if I can't get to it
[02:53] <Chousuke> _nathan: why can't you?
[02:53] <Chousuke> _nathan: it should be in the menus.
[02:53] <Chousuke> what's wrong with it
[02:53] <sponzor> Blippe synaptic?
[02:53] <_nathan> The gui apps ask for a password tell me it's wrong and do nothing
[02:53] <Chousuke> _nathan: are you giving it the correct password (your own)
[02:54] <Blippe> sponzor, sorry, i meant adept
[02:54] <Chousuke> also, are you an administrator user?
[02:54] <_nathan> This time it did not even get that far just "su returned with an error"
[02:54] <_nathan> I am the only user
[02:54] <Chousuke> did you do a regular install?
[02:54] <_nathan> created by me not more than a half hour ago
[02:55] <Chousuke> oh, hmm
[02:55] <sponzor> Blippe i m lost now how to open ssh server in shell
[02:55] <sponzor> ?
[02:55] <Chousuke> so it wasn't created during install?
[02:55] <_nathan> no i did not and i entered a root password
[02:55] <Chousuke> no wonder then
[02:55] <Chousuke> IIRC, for sudo to work, you must belong to the wheel group
[02:55] <_nathan> what
[02:55] <Blippe> sponzor, if it is installed, just type "ssh [username] @[server] " in konsole
[02:56] <Chousuke> _nathan: kUbuntu uses sudo for root by default.
[02:56] <Blippe> sponzor, you could try it with "ssh localhost"
[02:56] <Chousuke> _nathan: most applications assume that instead of root you have a proper sudo setup
[02:56] <_nathan> How can i get them to "un-assume" that
[02:56] <sponzor> k
[02:56] <Chousuke> _nathan: I have no idea.
[02:57] <_nathan> **** this guess its reinstall time
[02:57] <Chousuke> nah.
[02:57] <Chousuke> _nathan: You should just use sudo. It doesn't have any disadvantages over root
[02:57] <_nathan> sudo for what it doesn't do anything
[02:58] <Blippe> _nathan, it gives you root-priviligies
[02:58] <Chousuke> log in as root and add your regular user to the wheel grou
[02:58] <sponzor> ok i installed ssh with apt-get install ssh :P
[02:58] <Blippe> !sudo
[02:58] <ubotu> sudo is, like, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:58] <sponzor> how to start it now
[02:58] <_nathan> I can't log in as root
[02:58] <Chousuke> um.
[02:58] <_nathan> at least I don't know how
[02:58] <Blippe> sponzor, in konsole type "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[02:58] <sponzor> ok
[02:59] <Chousuke> run "su" in a terminal
[02:59] <Chousuke> and give the root password you issued during install
[02:59] <_nathan> ok
[02:59] <_nathan> i have a root terminal
[03:00] <Chousuke> right.
[03:00] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:00] <Chousuke> _nathan: now you should add your regular user to the wheel group
[03:01] <Chousuke> _nathan: adduser <username> wheel
[03:01] <sponzor> ok it works now
[03:01] <_nathan> k
[03:01] <Chousuke> iirc, wheel users are administrator users with sudo rights.
[03:01] <Chousuke> then you must log out and log in again, and sudo should work
[03:01] <Chousuke> unless there is something else wrong.
[03:02] <_nathan> adduser: The group `wheel' does not exist.
[03:02] <_nathan> does it need to be in brackets
[03:03] <GNU_Style> is there a BASH for windows?
[03:03] <Chousuke> _nathan: hm
[03:03] <VRWarper> try cyg-win
[03:04] <Chousuke> Your setup really differs from the default :/
[03:04] <Chousuke> I wish I was running ubuntu now so I could ascertain a few things. :P
[03:05] <_nathan> I don't see how all i did was enter a password for root... Everything else I left the same
[03:05] <Chousuke> you did an expert install?
[03:05] <_nathan> yes
[03:05] <Chousuke> Hmm. :/
[03:06] <Chousuke> Maybe that leaves sudo unconfigurred.
[03:06] <Chousuke> -r
[03:06] <Chousuke> meaning that you will have to create the wheel group and edit /etc/sudoers manually to make it work
[03:06] <_nathan> I can't access anywhere that I know of to do thos things.
[03:07] <Chousuke> well, you can gain access to a root terminal
[03:07] <Chousuke> which is all you need.
[03:07] <Chousuke> Weird though.
[03:07] <Chousuke> I'm almost sure that the GUI apps should be able to use plain su if sudo is disabled.
[03:08] <Chousuke> but since you did and expert install, the system assumes you know how to configure such things yourself.
[03:08] <_nathan> Oh I see
[03:08] <Chousuke> an*
[03:09] <_nathan> I added the group wheel
[03:09] <inc|freaky> hi all. i just installed ksmoothdock - how to get rid of the kde kicker?
[03:09] <Chousuke> use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers
[03:09] <inc|freaky> witzhout removing an existing application dock panel?
[03:09] <_nathan> should I add my user name to "wheel"?
[03:10] <Chousuke> yes.
[03:10] <Chousuke> and then you need to edit /etc/sudoers
[03:10] <Chousuke> with visudo!
[03:10] <Chousuke> (just run visudo as root)
[03:10] <_nathan> what do I add
[03:11] <Chousuke> let's see.
[03:11] <_nathan> it looks different from the last install
[03:12] <sponzor> how to instal .rpm
[03:12] <sponzor> in shell?
[03:12] <sponzor> nmap-4.01-1.x86_64.rpm
[03:13] <Chousuke> _nathan: I can't remember sudo's syntax.
[03:13] <Chousuke> hmm
[03:13] <Chousuke> "%wheel ALL = (ALL) ALL" or something
[03:14] <_nathan> what is "wheel"
[03:14] <Chousuke> visudo should complain if that's brokne
[03:14] <Chousuke> _nathan: wheel is the group you just created.
[03:15] <Chousuke> that line in the sudoers file means that anyone in the wheel group is allowed to run any command as root using sudo
[03:15] <Chousuke> so if you want an user to be able to act as an administrator, you can add that user to the wheel group.
[03:15] <zaba_> sponzor: I not sure that debian-based systems can install RPMs
[03:16] <_nathan> why did I name it wheel
[03:16] <_nathan> whynot admin?
[03:16] <Chousuke> _nathan: tradition :P
[03:16] <_nathan> or something
[03:16] <sponzor> hmm sux
[03:16] <_nathan> Ahh
[03:16] <_nathan> Teach the noob
[03:16] <Chousuke> admin would make more sense to me too though. :D
[03:17] <_nathan> That is how it was set up before
[03:17] <Chousuke> oh wel
[03:17] <Chousuke> well*
[03:17] <Chousuke> it doesn't really matter.
[03:17] <_nathan> what about this line? user_name ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:17] <Chousuke> that gives a specific user access to sudo
[03:17] <_nathan> do I need to reboot for this to work?
[03:17] <Chousuke> no
[03:18] <Chousuke> just log out and log in again
[03:18] <_nathan> k
[03:18] <_nathan> brb
[03:20] <sponzor> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:20] <sponzor> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:20] <sponzor> ?
[03:21] <_nathan> I think that it is working... Adept is bogging the system
[03:21] <Chousuke> bogging?
[03:21] <Chousuke> :|
[03:22] <Chousuke> did it accept your password this time?
[03:22] <_nathan> Ya limited ram... Adept really slows me down
[03:22] <_nathan> yes
[03:22] <_nathan> Thank you so much
[03:22] <Chousuke> ah.
[03:22] <Chousuke> Well, glad that it's working now.
[03:22] <_nathan> Dammit I was readdy to start pulling hair.
[03:23] <_nathan> Gatta alot to learn...
[03:23] <zaba_> sponzor: what's problems? your gcc isn't working correctly...
[03:23] <sponzor> muh i dont know this sux
[03:29] <_nathan> If I install gnome will it effect kde
[03:31] <tristanmike> _nathan: no, not at all
[03:32] <_nathan> will I be able to switch back and forth or only one ata time
[03:33] <tristanmike> _nathan: well, in gnome there is an option to start another session, which means you can run ubuntu and kubuntu at the same time, i'm not sure if Kubuntu has the same options
[03:35] <_nathan> Is it possible to remove specific componets of kde? Last time I tryed it wanted to remove everything
[03:35] <tristanmike> it depends on what you want to remove, if you want to remove Konqueror, I'd say it's a no go
[03:38] <_nathan> That would not make much sense... In a way konqueror is KDE
[03:38] <tristanmike> I know ;)
[03:38] <tristanmike> some people might want to try and get rid of it
[03:39] <noteventime> :) Is anyone in here using wpa supplicant?
[03:41] <_trojan_> how is dapper coming along?  any testers?
[03:42] <_nathan> I am still out on it... The integration is nice but it seems like it is trying to do an awful lot.
[03:42] <noteventime> I'm using dapper
[03:42] <noteventime> Wow, the notwork-manager-kde is awsome :d
[03:42] <pradeepto> I am using dapper too
[03:43] <_trojan_> any blender users on dapper?
[03:43] <noteventime> Yes
[03:43] <noteventime> me
[03:43] <pradeepto> btw I installed dapper 5  couple of days back, will apt-get dist-upgrade update it to stuff that is there in df6 ?
[03:43] <danimo> is ghostscript working properly for all of you with dapper?
[03:44] <danimo> for it it constantly runs out of memory with a lot of pdfs
[03:44] <_trojan_> how is it working noteventime
[03:44] <noteventime> Great :D
[03:44] <mart> Question:  Suppose I'm getting rendering problems for certain values of "System Settings->Appearance->GTK styles and fonts" in emacs, what would I file a bug against?
[03:44] <_trojan_> noteventime: did you try the python scripts?
[03:45] <noteventime> Yes
[03:45] <_trojan_> and?
[03:45] <noteventime> Well, not all of them, but the ones i used worked
[03:45] <_trojan_> :P
[03:45] <noteventime> I've had no problems at all with blende
[03:45] <noteventime> r
[03:45] <_trojan_> graphics card?
[03:46] <noteventime> Built in Intel ;)
[03:46] <mart> uh, I should re-phrase that:  suppose I'm getting rendering problems in emacs for certain values of "K-> System Settings-> Appearance-> GTK styles", what would I file a bug against?
[03:46] <_trojan_> noteventime: do you use torque?
[03:46] <noteventime> It's a centrino laptop
[03:46] <noteventime> no, I've used crystal space
[03:47] <_trojan_> I may give dapper a whirl
[03:47] <noteventime> Do so
[03:48] <noteventime> Generally it feels more stable than breezy
[03:48] <_trojan_> no kidding.  I would rather be using 2.41
[03:48] <noteventime> You know flight 6 is out, right?
[03:49] <_trojan_> yep
[03:50] <_trojan_> i have ubuntu breezy on another hd
[03:51] <_trojan_> but kubuntu is slick
[03:51] <eriksti> what must I do to be able to select the gstreamer engine for amarok?  I have installed gstreamer but I can't chose in in the engine tab in amarok
[03:51] <pradeepto> guys I installed df5 couple of days back, will apt-get dist-upgrade get the stuff from df6 too?
[03:52] <eriksti> can only chose xine and aRts
[03:52] <_trojan_> pradeepto: if not just $sudo apt-get
[03:53] <pradeepto> hmmmm
[03:53] <pradeepto> thanks
[03:53] <_trojan_> yep
[03:58] <eriksti> did the package amarok-gstreamer get a new name or something, or replaced somehow?
[03:59] <mart> eriksti: I'm using pool-dapper/amarok-gstreamer_1.4-beta1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:00] <mart> which I guess must be from kubuntu.org, rather than the main tree
[04:01] <eriksti> do you have full url to it?
[04:01] <mart> http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta2/pool-dapper/
[04:01] <mart> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta2 dapper main
[04:02] <mart> oh, wait
[04:02] <mart> I'm using beta1
[04:02] <mart> eriksti: perhaps it's become amarok-engines?
[04:02] <eriksti> I have already installed amarok-engines and amarok-engine.. only have xine and aRts
[04:03] <mart> eriksti: no, you're right, it definately seems to have gone somewhere...
[04:03] <killian> can i upgrade from flight 4 to flight6?
[04:03] <mart> eriksti: it's there in beta1, but not in beta2 :-S
[04:03] <mart> beta1 is at http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta1/pool-dapper/
[04:04] <eriksti> I'll try that one then
[04:04] <mart> eriksti: I've been using it since it was released with no problems.
[04:05] <not_even_time> sharp3d.sourceforge.net
[04:05] <not_even_time> ^-- Cool, but I cant get it to do anything
[04:07] <_trojan_> noteventime: where did you get flight 6?
[04:08] <noteventime> _trojan_: I'm using flight 5, but wait a minute I'll get the URL
[04:08] <_trojan_> thankyou
[04:09] <noteventime> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/
[04:09] <noteventime> np
[04:09] <mart> eriksti: from the changlelog:
[04:09] <mart> +  * In addition, and after a bit of chit-chat with upstream, follow their wishes and not package aKode at all (bye amarok-arts), and don't include GStreamer 0.10 support for now.
[04:10] <visik7> will be breezy -> dapper upgrade painless ?
[04:10] <_trojan_> visik7: yep
[04:13] <eriksti> mart: I'm trying the beta now, I had 1.3.9 earlier
[04:14] <visik7> _trojan_:  but for example: apps using gstreamer 0.8 will work with gstreamer 0.10 ?
[04:14] <asraniel> no, like amarok that does not support gstreamer 0.10 atm
[04:15] <eriksti> so which engines are you using for amaroK guys? I wanna listen to radio and I don't really care as long as it works
[04:16] <_trojan_> visik7: if not you just get both
[04:16] <visik7> :/
[04:16] <visik7> eriksti: I use xine with alsa
[04:16] <mart> eriksti: xine, also
[04:18] <eriksti> amarok starts hanging and stuff when I try to connect to a stream when using xine
[04:18] <mart> need to set a proxy?
[04:21] <eriksti_> ah okay.. I've had my lap for 18 months and today I finally got wireless working.. radio worked when I got off wlan and used normal stuff
[04:22] <eriksti_> wlan was a real pain, but rather easy once I found the solution.  Had to use this: http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tauber/acerhk/
[04:23] <mart> yes!!!! Isn't it great when someones already filed the bug for you :)
[04:32] <inc|freaky> hi all. what is a good solution to remotely control a linux pc (KDE or completely) from a computer running windows xp?
[04:32] <inc|freaky> GUI
[04:32] <Kyral> FreeNX? VNC?
[04:32] <inc|freaky> which one of these is better?
[04:33] <Kyral> IMHO FreeNX
[04:33] <Kyral> but like all things in this Open Source world, its a matter of opinion :P
[04:37] <m0ns00n> Any good mysql editors for QT other than mysql-navigator
[04:38] <m0ns00n> mysql-cc isn't supported anymore and doesn't run stable..
[04:38] <m0ns00n> mysql-admin/query browser has black text hard coded, so I can't see it on a black background (I won't let the app dictate my color scheme that's just wrong =))
[04:44] <shoreflyer> hi there, anyone ever got  hibernation working on kubuntu?
[04:48] <burepe> I want to install Ktorrent 1.2 because my 1.0 doesn't work. 1.2 is not available in adept so could someone tell me how to install 1.2?
[04:53] <shoreflyer> burepe: what repositories are in your sources file?
[04:56] <cryptoboats> How do I find other channels?
[04:56] <cryptoboats> This is my 1st time using IRC
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> /list
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> type /list
[04:56] <tristanmike> but that will list way too many
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[04:57] <mart> cryptoboats: there's a link in the topic for ubuntu related bugs
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> this is a big network
[04:57] <tristanmike> !irc
[04:57] <ubotu> [irc]  info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[04:57] <mart> that's the one.
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> if you find one current, filter it
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> if your client support:
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> /list linux
[04:57] <tristanmike> check out the wiki, it will give you a list of ubuntu releated irc rooms
[04:57] <cryptoboats> thanks
[04:58] <MetaMorfoziS> /list ubuntu
[04:58] <MetaMorfoziS> for all rooms that name contains *ubuntu*
[05:02] <burepe> shoreflyer I have the latest kde repo but that didn't give me the 1.2
[05:12] <vinboy> hi
[05:12] <vinboy> is there anything similar to post-it note that I can stick on my desktop?
[05:12] <mart> knotes
[05:12] <vinboy> or sticky note
[05:12] <vinboy> oh ok
[05:12] <vinboy> thanks
[05:13] <mart> vinboy: but the real thing is much more practical :)
[05:13] <vinboy> i dislike the real thing :)
[05:13] <vinboy> waste of paper
[05:13] <mart> vinboy: if you use kontact, there's the "Notes" feature in that too.
[05:14] <vinboy> i'll try the knotes first
[05:14] <vinboy> kontact sound like a big app
[05:14] <mart> yep.
[05:15] <tvoss> Hi @ll
[05:15] <tvoss> Does anyone know if there's a kde-port of the dapper-gnome-icon-theme?
[05:17] <bkn> hi, is there anyone in here running kubuntu on a powerbook and has MOL running?
[05:18] <vinboy> omg
[05:18] <vinboy> i'm so impressed with KDE's applications
[05:54] <nico8481> hi
[06:00] <Snake__> Riddell: Ping
[06:01] <n3storm> I had compiled an application and I don't know where the make install left the files
[06:01] <n3storm> the app is working though
[06:01] <Snake__> ubotu: tell n3storm about checkinstall
[06:01] <Snake__> Use that from now on
[06:02] <n3storm> thanks ver much
[06:10] <Snake__> Where can I get QT 1.4 Librarys
[06:11] <ruedy> hi, im a linux newbie an i need your help: how can i format a participation?
[06:11] <Snake__> How do you format a participation?
[06:11] <Snake__> You mean a Partition?
[06:12] <ruedy> possible
[06:13] <Snake__> heh
[06:13] <Snake__> If your in windows, you need something like parition magic, if you in linux, use gparted
[06:13] <ruedy> ok
[06:13] <ruedy> (what is gparted?)
[06:13] <Snake__> a program, are you in kubuntu right now?
[06:13] <ruedy> jep
[06:14] <Snake__> sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:14] <Snake__> Wait
[06:14] <Snake__> NO
[06:14] <ruedy> can i get this program with adept?
[06:14] <Snake__> Youll need to get a live disk, you cant have the hard drive mounted
[06:14] <Snake__> Do you have a ubuntu live?
[06:15] <ruedy> (is this a program too?)
[06:15] <Riddell> Snake__: hmm?
[06:15] <Snake__> Riddell: I came across a program called kweather, and I need to know, how in the hell do programs that buggy make the repos????
[06:15] <Snake__> !livecd
[06:16] <Snake__> ubotu: tell ruedy about livecd
[06:16] <Snake__> ruedy: get that
[06:16] <Snake__> ruedy: get the Ubuntu Live cd, burn it, use it to parition your hard drive
[06:17] <Riddell> Snake__: kweather is part of KDE
[06:17] <Snake__> Riddell: Oh really.. I had to install >.<
[06:17] <Snake__> Riddell: Well am I the only one that noticed that is one of the buggiest programs in the whole of KDE?
[06:18] <Snake__> I know its only small, but wtf?
[06:18] <vge> anyone know a little gui program that i know em i connected to net or not?
[06:18] <Riddell> Snake__: all patches happily accepted
[06:18] <Snake__> Riddell: I wish I could code
[06:19] <Tm_T> :)
[06:19] <martin> vge: type ifconfig in a console window. that'll give you information regarding IP etc
[06:20] <vge> i know i know
[06:20] <Snake__> Tm_T: wawawa wahhtt??
[06:20] <vge> i just need a program in taskbar that shows is my net down or up?
[06:20] <Tm_T> Snake__: if you enjoy looking crashy buggy and unusable windows' then svn up!
[06:20] <martin> sudo apt-get install network-manager-kde (it's in Universe)
[06:20] <Tm_T> =)
[06:21] <Snake__> Tm_T: ehhh.....no thanx k
[06:21] <Snake__> :)
[06:21] <Tm_T> =)
[06:22] <Tm_T> why not
[06:22] <Tm_T> come on, some fun
[06:22] <Snake__> Tm_T: anywhere I can get some offical screenies tho?
[06:22] <Tm_T> official? =)
[06:22] <Snake__> Tm_T: ya as in, not concept art
[06:22] <Tm_T> http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/blog/kde4-kate_01.png
[06:23] <Snake__> Tm_T: intresting
[06:23] <Tm_T> indeed
[06:24] <Tm_T> I'm trying to get kopete compiled
[06:35] <OdyX> Tm_T: I'm real bad tester.... The error/bug I gave you (not showing status messages) on Kopete was even a lack of option search. Really sorry.
[06:36] <Tm_T> haha
[06:36] <Tm_T> no worries
[06:36] <xwings> Hi Guys .. any idea on Dapper's VLC ? borken ?
[06:51] <Danny> I'm back :)
[06:51] <stanislav> j #truehiphop
[06:56] <Flosoft> hey
[06:56] <Flosoft> does anyone know a good Tag editor?
[06:56] <ccc_> Flosoft: id3 tags?
[06:56] <Flosoft> yes
[06:56] <ccc_> i use amarok, it does the job great
[06:56] <DeeZiD> amarok
[06:56] <Flosoft> yes
[06:57] <Flosoft> but it does not rename files ... and the cddb is bad?  (MusicBrainz)
[06:57] <Flosoft> I gotta edit about 770 songs
[06:58] <ccc_> well you asked for a tag editor, not a file renamer :)
[06:58] <Flosoft> true ... but the most important thing for me is a fast cddb
[06:58] <Flosoft> so I can quickly get all the tags
[06:59] <Flosoft> and Amarok is not that good in it
[06:59] <ccc_> works fine here, with 1.4 beta2
[06:59] <ccc_> check out easytag, i think it's alright
[06:59] <Flosoft> easy tag is very slow ...
[06:59] <Flosoft> I tried that ..
[06:59] <ccc_> ok
[07:00] <OdyX> Somebody using Ifplugd successfully ?
[07:04] <alexnicol> Anyone around?
[07:06] <burepe> hi
[07:06] <burepe> !japanese
[07:06] <ubotu> burepe: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:07] <dereks__> how is the best way to mount a drive so all users have read/write access? what would the fstab entry lool like?
[07:08] <misieq> hi! i want to install kubuntu, however i have only kubuntu install cd and ubuntu install dvd (both are breezy). due to lack of space there is no gcc and numerous other useful packages on kubuntu cd. which is the better way to install kubuntu: install it from the dvd amd add kubuntu cd to apt and install kubuntu-desktop or rather start installation from kubuntu cd and install needed packages from ubuntu dvd?
[07:08] <tvoss> dereks__: /dev/hd*
[07:08] <tvoss> dereks__: sorry ... :-) one moment:-)
[07:09] <misieq> dereks__: afaik there's option 'users'...
[07:09] <dereks__> tvoss: ok, thanks :)
[07:09] <dereks__> here is the fstab entry i have currently /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       0
[07:09] <tvoss> dereks__: /dev/hd*  /mountpoint fs-type( vfat, ext3 ) user, exec,umask=0000  0  0
[07:09] <tristanmike> misieq: you can add "ubuntu" repos and and install from that, that should work for you
[07:09] <dereks__> so just add the user option?
[07:10] <misieq> tristanmike: so should i install from kubuntu cd or ubuntu dvd?
[07:10] <tvoss> dereks__: right
[07:10] <dereks__> do i need the umask?
[07:10] <tvoss> dereks__: and i would add the umask-entry as well
[07:10] <dereks__> ok
[07:10] <dereks__> whats it do?
[07:10] <misieq> i'd like to have both, kde and gnome, however i'd rather like to start kde by default
[07:10] <tristanmike> misieq: if I understand you right, I'd install using the Kubuntu CD then when it's install, edit your sources.list file to include Ubuntu repos, then install what you want from there, after Kubuntu is installed
[07:10] <tvoss> dereks__: umask specifies the octet mask of bytes that are _not_ set
[07:10] <frank23> misieq: if you have a decent internet connection, it doesn't matter. everything is available whit the repositories
[07:10] <tristanmike> misieq: oh, that's easy then
[07:11] <dereks__> ok
[07:11] <tvoss> dereks__: umask=0000 just means no byte is not set -> everything is allowed for everyone
[07:11] <dereks__> tvoss: is there a way to "reload" fstab?
[07:11] <tristanmike> misieq: just install Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu, it will ask you which one you want to make default
[07:11] <misieq> frank23: can u call 256kbps dwon a decent connection? ;)
[07:11] <dereks__> to check if it worked
[07:11] <misieq> *down
[07:11] <tvoss> dereks__: just unmount the drive and then mount again ...
[07:11] <frank23> misieq: much better that modem ;)
[07:12] <dereks__> tvoss: will that use the fstab settings?
[07:12] <misieq> frank23: used to have one like 2 years ago...
[07:12] <tristanmike> misieq: you might be able to just add the ubuntu dvd line to your sources.list and pull files from there that way too, that way you won't have to download it, but I've never tried it that way myself
[07:12] <tvoss> dereks__: for sure ... mount always acts on the current fstab settings.
[07:12] <dereks__> tvoss: it didn't
[07:13] <tvoss> dereks__: could you post the line of fstab again? as well as the command you used to mount the device?
[07:14] <tristanmike> misieq: is my way no good to you?
[07:14] <dereks__> tvoss: fstab-"/dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,user,umask,exec 0       0"
[07:14] <dereks__> tvoss: command-"0"
[07:14] <dereks__> tvoss: command-" [13:14]  [dereks__(+i)]  [6:#kubuntu(+cn)]  [Act: 1,3,5,7,8] 
[07:14] <dereks__> sorry bout that
[07:14] <dereks__> tvoss: command="sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1/"
[07:14] <nuky> hey, what to do you use for viewing .svgz and .svg files? is there a .svg or .svgz plugin for gwenview? cos i can't view svg files other than with konqueror which crashes sometimes..
[07:15] <tvoss> dereks__: you have to remove defaults from your line and specify 'umask=0000'
[07:15] <dereks__> tvoss: why don't we want defaults?
[07:15] <tvoss> dereks__: and try 'mount /mnt/sdb1' without sudo!
[07:15] <dereks__> haha
[07:15] <dereks__> ok
[07:16] <misieq> errrr... i accidentally just brought up some window called 'katapult' what does that do and how do i bring it up again?
[07:16] <dereks__> tvoss: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1/
[07:16] <dereks__> mount: only root can do that
[07:16] <tvoss> dereks__: I'm not completely sure but i think 'defaults' defaults to write-protected for normal users.
[07:16] <frank23> misieq: alt-space
[07:16] <tvoss> dereks__: just try 'mount /mnt/sdb1'
[07:16] <frank23> misieq: you can type an app name or document name to open it quickly
[07:17] <tristanmike> misieq: it allows you to start a program without searching the menus
[07:17] <tvoss> dereks__: the way you try to do doesn't look up the settings in fstab
[07:17] <misieq> oh... that's nice :)
[07:17] <tristanmike> misieq: just push "alt + space" and start typing say, amaroK
[07:17] <tristanmike> misieq: i know, it's great :)
[07:17] <dereks__> tvoss: mount /mnt/sdb1/
[07:17] <dereks__> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[07:18] <tvoss> dereks__: that's a little better already ... mount tried to get the mount options from fstab:-)
[07:18] <alexnicol> Can anyone help
[07:18] <misieq> tristanmike: however i don't think i'm going to use that much on my p2 350 and integrated video card... it's sort of... slow
[07:19] <tvoss> dereks__: are you sure your drive is formatted with ext3 filesystem??
[07:19] <alexnicol> I've managed to balls up my task bar
[07:19] <tvoss> dereks__: You are trying to mount a usb-stick?
[07:19] <alexnicol> I've lost the system train and the bar for programs
[07:19] <tristanmike> misieq: too bad, it's a neat little thingy :P
[07:19] <dereks__> tvoss: Apr  2 13:18:20 localhost kernel: [5829904.460000]  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=000" or missing value
[07:19] <alexnicol> looking into the system settings and I cant find where to add it again
[07:19] <alexnicol> any ideas?
[07:19] <dereks__> tvoss: i am sure
[07:19] <dereks__> tvoss: not a usb key
[07:19] <dereks__> the fstab worked before
[07:19] <tvoss> dereks__: 'umask=0000' four "0"
[07:20] <alexnicol> ignore that
[07:20] <tristanmike> alexnicol: right click on a panel "add to panel - Panel - Panel
[07:20] <tristanmike> "
[07:20] <dereks__> tvoss: still no dice
[07:20] <dereks__>  tvoss: Apr  2 13:19:27 localhost kernel: [5829971.958000]  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=0000" or missing value
[07:20] <misieq> tristanmike: any other cool eyecandies you can suggest? (i'm installing kubuntu right now on a bit more powerful machine right now)
[07:21] <tvoss> dereks__: *Confused* Could you give your line from fstab once again??
[07:21] <tristanmike> misieq: you can try umm...what's it called, superkaramba
[07:21] <dereks__> tvoss: /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    errors=remount-ro,user,umask=0000,exec 0           0
[07:21] <tristanmike> misieq: that's a nice one
[07:22] <misieq> tristanmike: mhm, that's nice one. i know also yakuake. is it useful?
[07:22] <tristanmike> yeah, i just installed yakuake and I use it all the time
[07:22] <tristanmike> thanx Snake__ ;)
[07:22] <DeeZiD> I use it, too
[07:22] <DeeZiD> nice program :)
[07:22] <misieq> tristanmike: and erm... k... like expose in mac.. what's the name?
[07:22] <DeeZiD> scale in compiz :D
[07:22] <tristanmike> I just don't like how it doesn't have "true" transparency
[07:23] <tvoss> dereks__: alright ... one moment please!
[07:23] <Snake__> tristanmike: then go get XGL and stfu :P
[07:23] <dereks__> tvoss: ok
[07:24] <misieq> Snake__: i'm looking forward to XGL since i saw novell's presentation of it's features on google video.. mmmmmm :)
[07:24] <Snake__> misieq: I used it, its awesome
[07:24] <DeeZiD> works great here :D
[07:24] <misieq> what distro did you use?
[07:24] <DeeZiD> kubuntu dapper, AMD 2200+, Geforce6600GT
[07:24] <tvoss> dereks__: try removing 'umask=0000'
[07:24] <Snake__> Dapper
[07:25] <tristanmike> Breezy
[07:25] <misieq> you think it might work on gf2 400 64mb + AXP1800+ qith 768 ram?
[07:25] <Snake__> Sure
[07:25] <tristanmike> Dapper is broken, and will most likely break
[07:25] <DeeZiD> mhh, Xv wont work great with that card, but the rest should be ok :)
[07:25] <Snake__> DeeZiD: xv?
[07:26] <DeeZiD> Xvideo
[07:26] <tristanmike> it's one of the video modes
[07:26] <Snake__> DeeZiD: which plug in is that?
[07:26] <tristanmike> Snake__: yeah, try mplayer
[07:26] <misieq> i'm awaiting official dapper to test xgl... and by the time it gets final i think of trying it on suse...
[07:26] <dereks__> tvoss: i tried that, it mounted fine, but didn't give non root users read/write
[07:26] <tristanmike> me too misieq
[07:26] <DeeZiD> Xvideo? It is hardware acceleration of video
[07:26] <Snake__> misieq: you can get the kororaa live cd with it
[07:26] <Snake__> DeeZiD: oh >.<
[07:26] <Snake__> :)
[07:26] <tvoss> dereks__: than one last little addition to the options: 'rw'
[07:26] <DeeZiD> Snake__: kororaa is old :p
[07:27] <Snake__> DeeZiD: dun matter, its still xgl fun
[07:27] <DeeZiD> :D
[07:27] <misieq> kororaa? where can i get it? :)
[07:27] <DeeZiD> but the old xgl version didn't work well with nvidia ;)
[07:27] <dereks__> tvoss: permission denied
[07:27] <Snake__> misieq: goooooooggglllle traaiinn!1
[07:27] <DeeZiD> and compiz had many problems in kde
[07:27] <Snake__> wooo woooo!!
[07:27] <Snake__> :)
[07:27] <tristanmike> http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-181203
[07:28] <tvoss> dereks__: permission denied??
[07:28] <Snake__> ubotu: needs a built in google search
[07:28] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snake__
[07:28] <DeeZiD> And if compiz works you should try cairo-clock :D
[07:28] <den> Hi - what's the best way to install Skype?  I see many confilicting things from a google search.  I'm using Dapper Kubuntu.  Is there an "official" kubuntu page about doing this?
[07:28] <dereks__> tvoss: yea
[07:28] <tristanmike> !skype
[07:28] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[07:28] <tvoss> dereks__: While adding the option 'rw' to fstab??
[07:28] <dereks__> yea
[07:29] <tvoss> dereks__: try again editing the file with sudo!
[07:29] <den> tristanmike: If you're not a bot you are _very_ fast! :)
[07:29] <dereks__> tvoss: i have bben
[07:29] <zblach> quick question. how can I automatically backup a partition?
[07:29] <tvoss> dereks__: Would you mind trying once again?
[07:29] <Snake__> den: hes our interpreitor bot
[07:29] <dereks__> trying what?
[07:29] <tristanmike> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ den
[07:29] <Snake__> den: then he sends commands to ubotu
[07:30] <tristanmike> :P
[07:30] <Snake__> its a sweet set up
[07:30] <Snake__> tristanmike: halt operation 0
[07:30] <Snake__> anyone know skype?
[07:30] <misieq> 4 hours left to test xgl :)
[07:30] <Snake__> tristanmike: start operation 0
[07:30] <Snake__> anyone know skype?
[07:30] <tristanmike> !skype
[07:30] <ubotu> [skype]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[07:30] <DeeZiD> yes
[07:30] <tvoss> Snake__: For sure ...
[07:30] <Snake__> w00t
[07:30] <DeeZiD> but doesn't work well (oss)
[07:31] <den> Snake__: :)
[07:31] <Snake__> Where can I get the live cd?
[07:31] <tristanmike> !livecd
[07:31] <tristanmike> !+livecd
[07:31] <ubotu> livecd is, like, totally, useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it or making any changes to your system. grab one from the download page at http://www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.  To remaster your own, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo .
[07:31] <Snake__> <3
[07:32] <Snake__> I'm gonna go set up xgl
[07:32] <tristanmike> !xgl
[07:32] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:32] <den> Snake__: Is tristanmike's program (personality, not plumbing) available somewhere?
[07:32] <Snake__> den: Its open source, so I would assume so
[07:33] <Snake__> den: not really sure where
[07:33] <Snake__> LOl
[07:33] <Snake__> I LOVE THIS BOT
[07:33] <Snake__> den: hes our newest addition :)
[07:33] <den> Snake__: Who maintains it, or who whould know about it's code?
[07:33] <dereks__> tvoss: out of suggestions?
[07:34] <zblach> kubuntu have anything for backups?
[07:34] <Snake__> den: I really not sure :( I wish I knew tho, I wouldn't mind his code either
[07:34] <Snake__> I bet his source is amazing tho
[07:34] <tristanmike> !backup
[07:34] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311 Available packages for backing up are backuppc (web based), backup2l, backup-manager, backupninja, bkp, bacula amongst others
[07:34] <den> Snake__: :)
[07:34] <tvoss> dereks__: Not at all:-) I asked, if you would mind trying to add 'rw' once again.-)
[07:34] <tristanmike> !source
[07:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:35] <Snake__> tristanmike: you were delayed fool!!!!
[07:35] <Snake__> !lart tr
[07:35] <Snake__> !lart tristanmike
[07:35] <zblach> well, backup isn't exactly what I meant. what I mean is more like this:
[07:36] <zblach> i have a 40gig partition, and a seperate 40 gig hdd. how, when I write to that partition, can I write to the other hdd simultaneously?
[07:36] <den> Does anyone here using any VOIP, or voice chat sw?
[07:38] <tristanmike> !skype
[07:38] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[07:39] <misieq> zblach: what you want is raid type 1 or 0
[07:39] <tristanmike> !raid
[07:39] <ubotu> somebody said raid was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[07:39] <zblach> misieq: i thought it was raid, but does that work for partition > hdd? i thought it was hdd>hdd only
[07:40] <misieq> zblach: don't ask me, i'm not the expert. however try that link provided by ubotu - it may be useful
[07:41] <zblach> misieq: his link is more about hardware and existing raid
[07:42] <den> Anyone here use Ekiga/GnomeMeeting for voice or video conference?
[07:42] <tristanmike> !ekiga
[07:42] <ubotu> [ekiga]  full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[07:43] <misieq> zblach: then i have no idea... i don't now if this exists, but you want some 'double-mounted' partition
[07:43] <Snake__> tristanmike: who owns you
[07:43] <tristanmike> You do Snake__
[07:43] <Snake__> ....
[07:44] <Tm_T> =)
[07:44] <Tm_T> kids...
[07:44] <misieq> zblach: why don't you ask in #ubuntu?
[07:47] <Snake__> den: I found his source, want it?
[07:48] <Snake__> u alive?
[07:48] <Snake__> lol
[07:48] <den> Snake: Txh - actually, tristanmike told me what I wanted - the url here:  Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ den
[07:49] <Snake__> den: ah, well thats not the source tho, I got what runs tristanmike
[07:49] <den> Snake: yes, thanks though! :)
[07:50] <Snake__> hehe
[07:53] <zblach> alright. i've read a few tutorials, but they don't really cover what I'm trying to do. I'm only interested in backing up my /home directory (seperate partition)
[07:54] <firewire> so... back it up
[07:54] <zblach> firewire: that's exactly what i'm interested in doing
[07:55] <Snake__> zblach: why not just have dcop cp it at a certain time every night?
[07:55] <zblach> Snake__: wouldn
[07:55] <zblach> 't that kill my drive really fast?
[07:56] <Snake__> mmmm cant say for certain
[07:57] <firewire> zblach: so do it
[07:58] <firewire> copy it somewhere else
[07:58] <firewire> or use tar to copy and compress it
[08:11] <slow-motion> n8
[08:12] <Danny> can anyone help with my networking in kubuntu?
[08:16] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[08:16] <__StarScream> hey ll
[08:16] <__StarScream> all
[08:17] <n3storm> hi everyone
[08:18] <__StarScream> hey n3storm
[08:19] <vge> how do i change what my forward/backward mousebuttons does? they work, but i cant assing functions to em?
[08:20] <tristanmike> !mouse
[08:20] <ubotu> mouse is probably Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[08:23] <__StarScream> !seen mhall
[08:23] <ubotu> mhall <n=mhall@uop-9-213.pacific.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-bots, 15h 33m 24s ago, saying: '~gensplash'.
[08:25] <ricardo> Hey gus, im having a problems with some windows here, no, not the OS, cause some of them dont fit the screen size, theyre bigger, and i cant resize them, any clue?
[08:25] <tristanmike> right click the title bar and select resize ?
[08:27] <ricardo> I tried this, but doesnt work at all
[08:29] <n3storm> ricardo: what application is that?
[08:30] <ricardo> Its not an application, is some operational windows, like the printer setup, and some others at system configuration
[08:31] <sredna> ricardo: The ability to resize windows can be set as an argument to the X server, and in some cases it's undesirable seen from the programmers POV
[08:32] <sredna> ricardo: You can move the windows using ALT + left mouse button
[08:33] <ricardo> sredna, no, that didnt work either
[08:34] <sredna> ricardo: That is the default action, but it can be changed, and if you are not using KWIN it's not nessecarily supported by your window manager
[08:36] <ricardo> No, the alt +left button works, but the windows remains the same size, thas was before, i can let the window bigger, an then let smaller, but not more than i have now
[08:47] <n3storm> ricardo, which resolution is your screen?
[08:48] <staale> Hi everyone, Im a total newb in kubuntu. I would like to know howto adjust the screen resolution? Any idea?
[08:48] <ricardo> 1024X768
[08:48] <staale> ricardo: yes
[08:50] <staale> anyone any idea?
[08:50] <staale> Cmn ppls
[08:50] <MetaMorfoziS> !resolution
[08:50] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:51] <MetaMorfoziS> where it uses "gedit" you may use nano
[08:51] <MetaMorfoziS> gedit and nano is texteditors
[08:51] <staale> MetaMorfoziS: ok
[08:51] <MetaMorfoziS> but gedit is gnome-based nano is a cmdline texteditor
[08:52] <n3storm> ricardo: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:52] <ricardo> Kubuntu 5.10
[08:53] <staale> MetaMorfoziS:
[08:53] <staale> staale@lilminime:~$ sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[08:53] <staale> sh: /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum: No such file or directory
[08:53] <staale> I'm Using kubuntu with KDE not ubuntu with gnome
[08:54] <staale> what do i do to set default scrn res?
[08:55] <ricardo> so n3storm, any clue?
[08:55] <n3storm> mmm, ricardo, is quite strange
[08:56] <ricardo> u tell me?? :D
[08:56] <n3storm> XD
[08:57] <n3storm> ricardo, are you there?
[08:57] <ricardo> yeah
[08:57] <staale> Can enyone plz help me?
[08:57] <n3storm> ricardo: can you reach the configure window behaviour
[08:58] <RaRe> random qustion: do you sometimes run a program (kwrite, firefox, konq, etc.) and it loads for a long time, and after a certain time the program just don't run and the loading bar is gone
[08:58] <n3storm> right click on the window title
[08:59] <nico8481> RaRe: it often happens to me with kaffeine, although the first time i run it it usually runs fine
[08:59] <ricardo> RaRe, it happened once
[08:59] <burepe> ReRe I am just having that with firefox
[08:59] <burepe> it won't start
[08:59] <ricardo> Yes n3storm
[08:59] <RaRe> oh thanx :D just wondering if it's something i did with my kubuntu
[08:59] <RaRe> is this a bug?
[08:59] <burepe> just started happening
[09:00] <burepe> I don't know. I want to know how to fix it.
[09:00] <RaRe> it usually happens when im doing a lot of stuffs
[09:00] <ricardo> this windows is also bigger than the screen size n3storm
[09:00] <n3storm> ricardo: go to actions
[09:01] <IamEthos> hey
[09:01] <IamEthos> I'm stuck in a shell
[09:01] <IamEthos> running irssi
[09:01] <IamEthos> because X can't start
[09:01] <IamEthos> I just installed KDE
[09:01] <IamEthos> and now I seem to be in some trouble
[09:02] <ricardo> where is that? n3storm
[09:02] <n3storm> is the second icon on the left
[09:02] <IamEthos> I think I can get the error messages if someone can tell me how to get to a terminal without exiting irssi and how to run x
[09:02] <n3storm> (i am translating)
[09:02] <staale> hanks for all great support people (ironic)
[09:03] <Snake__> IamEthos: type Alt+Ctrl F2
[09:04] <ricardo> At setup desktop?
[09:04] <n3storm> Ricardo: just to be sure, have you changed your window decorations?
[09:04] <ricardo> Yes, but the problems was here before
[09:04] <n3storm> ricardo, nop I mean right click over the window title
[09:04] <MilaNL> Hello :) My internet connection doesn't work in Dapper Drake
[09:06] <ricardo> i see
[09:07] <n3storm> you see the actions icon now?
[09:08] <ricardo> No, i think im the wrong place
[09:10] <IamEthos> well
[09:10] <IamEthos> that is interesting
[09:12] <ricardo> Can we restart n3storm?
[09:12] <n3storm> yeap
[09:12] <IamEthos> okay
[09:12] <IamEthos> now, how do I start X?
[09:12] <IamEthos> or restart it as the case may be
[09:12] <tristanmike> "startx"
[09:12] <n3storm> click with the right buttom of your mouse on any window title
[09:13] <n3storm> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[09:13] <n3storm> IamEthos: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[09:14] <ricardo> setup window behavior? i found n3storm
[09:14] <n3storm> ricardo: yes
[09:14] <n3storm> now
[09:15] <IamEthos> n3storm: kdm command not found
[09:15] <n3storm> tell me what is the name of the window decoration
[09:15] <n3storm> IamEthos: apt-get install kdm
[09:15] <IamEthos> n3storm: that's what got me into this mess in the first place
[09:15] <ricardo> n3storm, KDE2
[09:16] <n3storm> please choose plastik by the moment, ok?
[09:16] <ricardo> ok
[09:16] <n3storm> then go to actions
[09:17] <ricardo> ok
[09:17] <burepe> My firefox stopped working. Can anyone tell me how to fix it? I click the icon and it tries to load and nothing happens.
[09:17] <n3storm> burepe: open a konsole and run firefox
[09:18] <n3storm> ricardo: what do you have on double click?
[09:18] <ricardo> maximize
[09:18] <n3storm> ok
[09:19] <n3storm> and on maximize button?
[09:19] <burepe> n3storm, nothing happens.
[09:19] <n3storm> can you read anything?
[09:19] <n3storm> burepe?
[09:19] <burepe> yeah
[09:19] <burepe> no
[09:20] <burepe> nothing
[09:20] <n3storm> ricardo click with the right buttom of your mouse on the maximize buttom of a window
[09:20] <n3storm> burepe: have you restarted your x window session?
[09:20] <burepe> I have 3 occurances of firefox-bin
[09:21] <burepe> would restarting the session do that?
[09:21] <n3storm> burepe: killall firefox-bin
[09:21] <n3storm> burepe yes
[09:21] <burepe> I have done that  a bunch
[09:22] <ricardo> n3storm, on miximize buton: left buttom cross, middle buttom, up-donw, right buttom left-right, sizes
[09:22] <n3storm> ricardo: can you use those actions on your windows?
[09:23] <ricardo> Just a little
[09:23] <n3storm> mmm
[09:23] <burepe> n3storm this is what I got
[09:23] <burepe> sudo touch ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[09:23] <burepe> echo "[Default] " >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[09:23] <burepe> echo "num_clients=1" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[09:23] <burepe> echo "0,RestartStyleHint=3" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[09:23] <burepe> echo "0,Priority=50" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[09:24] <burepe> echo "0,RestartCommand=scim -d" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[09:24] <burepe> echo "0,Program=scim" >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[09:24] <burepe> sorry, little more than I thought it was
[09:24] <n3storm> ricardo, does it work for you ctrl+alt+Plus"+" of the numerickeyboard?
[09:24] <_robert> Does anyone know why kubuntu insists on reseting itself to 640x480 resolution every time I reboot?
[09:25] <_robert> And forgets that I've reconfigured it up to at least 1024x768?
[09:25] <ricardo> it seems that the window have a minimun size, that i cant go further
[09:25] <n3storm> ricardo, one idea
[09:25] <n3storm> create a new user
[09:25] <ricardo> n3storm, yes it works
[09:25] <n3storm> and log in as the new user
[09:26] <n3storm> ricardo have you recently made an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade?
[09:26] <bobble> Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation for a good ftp daemon, easy to use in KDE etc
[09:27] <ricardo> update yes, today, when i got my nvidia driver, but the problem was alread here
[09:29] <_robert> Is there any way to permanently set the maxiumum resolution for a 19" monitor?
[09:29] <n3storm> ricardo, when did everything started?
[09:30] <ricardo> When i installed the kubuntu
[09:30] <burepe> n3storm, any ideas on that firfox error?
[09:32] <n3storm> burepe, have you alredy done the "killall firefox-bin"?
[09:32] <burepe> yeah
[09:32] <n3storm> burepe: don't know what to say
[09:33] <n3storm> ricardo: don't know what to say :)
[09:33] <n3storm> :(
[09:33] <burepe> I just got it to start with command line. Strange.
[09:34] <n3storm> burepe: so it's working now?
[09:34] <burepe> looks like I am back in business
[09:34] <burepe> yeah
[09:35] <burepe> don't know why.
[09:35] <n3storm> burepe: you killed firefox processes that got stucked somehow
[09:35] <n3storm> too much flash animations in your navigation ;)?
[09:36] <ricardo> n3storm, thanks man i ll look at forums!
[09:37] <n3storm> ricardo: goodlook
[09:37] <n3storm> ricardo: good luck :)
[09:37] <ricardo> n3estorm, thx
[09:39] <vge> dang i love when i get something to work :P
[09:39] <vge> alltought somebody may say that getting your thumbuttons to work is easy :)
[09:46] <slow-motion> re
[09:56] <mrproper> does the live cd always use the "vesa" driver or does it use something else when the driver is supported?
[09:59] <ricardo> hey killall kdm-panel is the kde version of killall gnome-panel?
[10:01] <burepe> I am trying to install japanese input and I am following faq but I am getting permission denied errors
[10:02] <burepe> like this
[10:02] <burepe>  echo 'export XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM"' >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup
[10:02] <burepe> echo 'export GTK_IM_MODULE="scim"' >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup
[10:02] <burepe> echo 'export XIM_PROGRAM="scim -d"' >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup
[10:02] <burepe> echo 'export QT_IM_MODULE="scim"' >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup
[10:02] <burepe> sudo chmod 644 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/74custom-scim_startup
[10:03] <burepe> Any suggestions?
[10:06] <mrproper> is this release of dapper the final one?
[10:08] <nalioth> mrproper: it is not.
[10:08] <_harm> i cant get any sound while playing video stuff in konqeurer
[10:08] <nalioth> mrproper: it will release June 1st
[10:09] <fatejudger> how do I use this new "Kerry" search tool?
[10:09] <xanza> Anyone know if CS is Linux native?
[10:09] <fatejudger> CS?
[10:09] <_harm> xanza i got it to work with wine
[10:09] <xanza> Counter Strike
[10:09] <fatejudger> ah
[10:09] <xanza> Humm...
[10:09] <_harm> but sometimes it just freezes for a couple of seconds :S might be driver
[10:10] <xanza> Maby.
[10:10] <xanza> Do you use Wine, or WineX?
[10:10] <fatejudger> Wine should run it fairly well
[10:10] <fatejudger> and winex doesn't exist anymore
[10:10] <_harm> Wine
[10:10] <fatejudger> only Cedega
[10:10] <xanza> i figured as much.
[10:10] <xanza> k thanks.
[10:10] <_harm> www.linux-gamers.net has a tut
[10:10] <xanza> lol ya i was just there. :)
[10:10] <_harm> just also place the font in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[10:11] <xanza> Ahh
[10:11] <xanza> k thanks. :D
[10:11] <xanza> Oh, is CS a good game?
[10:12] <_harm> yes
[10:12] <_harm> ... omg its the best
[10:12] <_harm> its that or starcraft for me :p
[10:12] <_harm> cs1.5 was good aswell
[10:12] <_harm> but anyone know how i can get sound from internet video;s?
[10:13] <xanza> lol
[10:13] <xanza> humm..
[10:13] <xanza> you have to be careful, some times they dont work for me either. lol.
[10:13] <xanza> but i was just at google video, and it works for me there.
[10:13] <xanza> Try that out.
[10:14] <xanza> Also, if you have an integrated sound card, it might not support multi sound.
[10:16] <fatejudger> xanza: it should
[10:16] <burepe> Can anyone help with Japanese input?
[10:16] <burepe> Driving me crazy.
[10:21] <nuky> hi, i was wandering if anyone could help me, i set my fstab to mount a partition on a second drive to /home/inuka/main/ but when i do df -Th /home/inuka/main, it tells me that it is on a different partition! my situation is shown here in terminal commands, http://pastebin.com/636440  any help would be greatly appreciated!
[10:22] <arrinmurr> burepe: i guess that should be possible with scim?
[10:26] <arn> any one setup a scanner in dapper yet?
[10:26] <arn> scsi scanner
[10:26] <xanza> Anyone know were i can download a counter strike (linux native) demo?
[10:38] <temi> Hey im getting an "Unexpected return code: 127" while running EasyBreezy. Anyone know what im doing wrong?
[10:44] <word> I'm trying to use the tutorial to install Shockwave ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-6ec2118de3b2280f446b008e04177f50de6a9a45 ) and it seems to be made for ubuntu...so what should I u se instead of gedit?
[10:45] <arn> kate
[10:45] <word> When I did that it said kate has crashed blah blah
[10:45] <arn> did you do it as sudo, word?
[10:46] <word> yup
[10:46] <arn> hmm
[10:46] <temi> Hey im getting an "Unexpected return code: 127" while running EasyBreezy. Anyone know what im doing wrong?
[10:46] <word> I'm going to try andsee if restarting the session will do anything be back in a bit
[10:46] <arn> can you just run kate?
[10:47] <word> I was able to....but it doesn't look like it anymore 15 seconds into trying to  load it up...nope
[10:47] <arn> gedit is just a text editor, you should be able to use any text editor
[10:47] <arn> vi, kate, etc
[10:47] <word> ok i'll brb and see if restarting the session fixes anything
[10:48] <temi> Anyone know how to use easybreezy?
[10:48] <Peir> Can I jump in with a quick question?
[10:49] <temi> can you?
[10:49] <Peir> Just set up Kubuntu for the first time, never got an option to set up a root password.  Does it have a default or did I miss a step somewhere?
[10:49] <temi> you missed a step
[10:49] <arn> no root user
[10:49] <Peir> sorry, first time in here, wasn't sure about rules
[10:49] <temi> it asks you twice
[10:49] <arn> temi is teasing
[10:50] <temi> lol
[10:50] <arn> you use sudo for most commands and your password will work for administrative purposes
[10:50] <temi> When you install kubuntu it asks you to enter one after yo uenter your name
[10:50] <word> "/var/tmp/kdecache-word" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[10:50] <word> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[10:50] <arn> not a root password temi
[10:50] <temi> oh
[10:51] <word> I get that error when I run the command again
[10:51] <temi> well thats what he asked for..
 Just set up Kubuntu for the first time, never got an option to set up a root password.  Does it have a default or did I miss a step somewhere?
[10:51] <arn> root password
[10:51] <Peir> When I ran the installer, it asked me to set up another user account, other than root.  At which point I entered a user name, login, and password for that user.    That login doesnt work for administrative purposes
[10:51] <arn> dunno word
[10:52] <word> wierd....
[10:52] <arn> it should Peir
[10:52] <arn> what are you trying to do that needs admin?
[10:52] <Peir> networking.  Wont let me do it under normal user login
[10:53] <Peir> I may be mistyping something though.
[10:53] <word> Lol arn I just navigated to the file and right clicked -> open as root and it works
[10:53] <arn> sweet, word
[10:53] <arn> :)
[10:53] <Peir> Perhaps I need to go back and just screw around with it.  Or threaten it until it works.
[10:53] <word> thanks :D
[10:53] <Peir> Anyway, thanks.
[10:53] <arn> np
[10:56] <temi> Does anyone know how to run easybreezy?
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> easybreezy is a different program?
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> what is it?
[10:59] <ryanakca> !easybreezy
[10:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, easybreezy is a dead project now, although still available at easybreezy.robotgeek.org - you should check out easyubuntu. Ask me.
[10:59] <temi> its fro robotgeek
[10:59] <ryanakca> temi: try easyubuntu
[10:59] <temi> ya i heard
[11:00] <ryanakca> tell temi about easyubuntu
[11:03] <pwolfe> quick question if anyone can help.  How do I give konsole read/write access to PTY devices?
[11:06] <pwolfe> join #streamtuner
[11:07] <bdmp> My power cut out and now when I log in to kubuntu it just loops me back to the log in screen. I can get to the failsafe log in but I don't know what to do once I get there. How can I fix this?
[11:16] <fatejudger> somehow ubotus listing for the qt includes got removed
[11:17] <fatejudger> does anyone know the package for qt includes?
[11:18] <Chousuke> libqt-dev or something similar.
[11:18] <hugelmopf> !qt
[11:18] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[11:18] <fatejudger> hugelmopf: thanks
[11:20] <hugelmopf> bdmp: you can login at the failsafe login? what about starting kdm from there with "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"? it's difficult to solve your problem like this, you'll have to poke around.
[11:22] <bdmp> I was installing something when the power cut out. Could that be the reason it won't start?
[11:22] <bdmp> Im gonna try what you said, one sec
[11:23] <hugelmopf> bdmp: what did you install?
[11:23] <hugelmopf> bdmp: you can login at the failsafe prompt and finish your install, probably by doing "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if it was an upgrade.
[11:24] <bdmp> kdm already running
[11:25] <bdmp> I was installing uim for japanese input
[11:25] <bdmp> it said kdm is already running
[11:26] <hugelmopf> bdmp: you can try "restart" instead of "start", but most likely it won't help. you will need to fix whatever you tried to install.
[11:28] <hugelmopf> bdmp: try for example "sudo apt-get --reinstall install uim"
[11:28] <bdmp> oki
[11:28] <possie> hello i have a problem installing mythgame, i get the messages: mythgame: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but it is not installable    anyone know how i can fix this?
[11:30] <Sergi0> possie: does this only happen with mythgame? or with the other plugins also?
[11:30] <hugelmopf> possie: seems like a bug in that package? it should probably depend on libqt3-mt?
[11:30] <possie> hugelmopf, ah okee
[11:31] <hugelmopf> possie: just my guess though. there is no easy way for you to fix it.
[11:31] <Sergi0> possie: it could (just a small hope) be a mirror?
[11:31] <hugelmopf> possi: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mythgame/+bug/37484
[11:31] <hugelmopf> possie: ^^ there it is
[11:31] <Sergi0> hugelmopf: ah
[11:32] <possie> hugelmopf, thans a lot! how did you find it so fast?
[11:32] <rosario> buenas!!
[11:33] <Sergi0> hmm why is only version 0.18 in the repros? version 0.19.1 is the latest stable
[11:33] <hugelmopf> possie: and the same here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mythgame/+bug/5371
[11:34] <possie> hugelmopf, so i guess it's just waiting until it gets fixed right?
[11:35] <hugelmopf> possie: i searched for mythgame in launchpad https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[11:35] <hugelmopf> possie: that will probably last til dapper.
[11:35] <ryanakca> I should be able to go "mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0", right?
[11:35] <hugelmopf> ryanakca: try pmount or use it with sudo
[11:36] <ryanakca> hugelmopf: hmmm... fd0 doesn't exist... fb0 exists, as well as fb...
[11:37] <hugelmopf> ryanakca: probably /dev/fd/0 ? i don't have a floppy drive anymore...
[11:38] <ryanakca> hugelmopf: nope...
[11:38] <possie> hugelmopf, damn :-)
[11:38] <possie> hugelmopf, was there a release date for dapper allready?
[11:39] <hugelmopf> possie: june 1
[11:40] <hugelmopf> possie: you can install libqt3c-mt (and the other dependencies) manually and then force the installation of mythgame. but as soon as you want to install something else, you will have to remove mythgame and force-install it afterwards again.
[11:44] <possie> hugelmopf, --force-yes ? :-)
[11:51] <nouse66> i've got wine .9.10 installed and when i try to run winecfg or a windows program like dvdshrink it just sits there for several minutes before anything comes up.  anyone know what causes that?
[11:54] <Rayman> !wlan
[11:54] <ubotu> Rayman: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <Rayman> !wireless
[11:54] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[11:58] <rdt> hello, folks
[11:58] <temi> yo
[11:59] <rdt> I have a question - whats the easiest way to upgrade from flight-5 to flight-6 ?
[11:59] <declano> Hi guys. I stupidly upgraded from breezy to dapper and now x server xorg is not working
[11:59] <declano> can anyone help?