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[05:06] <bluetux_tbook> hi
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[11:17] <dimension128> Is there a webpage, wiki, or anything I can go to, to see what specific artwork is still needed for dapper?
[11:45] <bluetux_tbook> dimension128, i don't know well, but do yo check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/TodoList ?
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[12:00] <dimension128> yes found that after a while, but thank you.
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[12:52] <andreasn> bluetux_tbook: are you good at icons?
[01:02] <bluetux_tbook> andreasn, a little.
[01:04] <bluetux_tbook> andreasn, i am just amature, making icon is just hobby.
[01:05] <andreasn> there are some icons that could made looking better in dapper
[01:06] <bluetux_tbook> where i find them?
[01:06] <andreasn> well, I only made a little list of my own
[01:07] <andreasn> System info under Applications/System Tools could be improved
[01:08] <bluetux_tbook> I will try
[01:09] <andreasn> and some icons in Add to Panel is not in tango-style yet
[01:09] <bluetux_tbook> oh, tango-style.
[01:11] <andreasn> well, you could make them in some other style, but that would be less usable upstream
[01:12] <bluetux_tbook> I will try to, as i can.
[01:15] <bluetux_tbook> andreasn, do you konw I make some icon theme?
[01:16] <andreasn> how do you mean?
[01:16] <andreasn> here are the tango-guidelines btw, http://tango-project.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines
[01:17] <bluetux_tbook> andreasn, i c and my mean I make jini icon theme (http://jini.kldp.net) 
[01:18] <bluetux_tbook> oh, that guideline is very detail.
[01:19] <andreasn> making sure stuff get consitent
[01:25] <andreasn> nice icons
[01:30] <bluetux_tbook> thanks
[02:01] <nomed> andreasn, your opinion about this ... ?
[02:01] <nomed> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperXubuntuGtkTheme
[02:01] <nomed> i ask here .. i suppose it's better :)
[02:01] <andreasn> looks great!
[02:02] <andreasn> does tango-aliminium depend on tango-icon-theme, or is all the icons in there already?
[02:02] <nomed> andreasn, all icons in there
[02:03] <andreasn> ok, good
[02:03] <nomed> andreasn, anyway i think that if the xubuntu icons theme will be complete ... 
[02:03] <nomed> there shouldn't be problem ..
[02:04] <nomed> i mean it 's possible to include all the icons within the theme pkge
[02:04] <andreasn> yes
[02:04] <nomed> it'll be just a tango like theme
[02:04] <nomed> as for edubuntu .. but i should ask better ...
[02:05] <nomed> i'll test even how it looks graphite+green
[02:05] <nomed> instead of blue ...
[02:19] <andreasn> cool
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[02:20] <Firebird8> hello
[02:23] <Firebird8> how would i join this art work team?
[02:24] <bluetux_tbook> Firebird8, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam
[02:24] <andreasn> there is some page in the wiki where you can add your name
[02:24] <andreasn> what stuff are you interested in?
[02:24] <Firebird8> im looking at it
[02:24] <Firebird8> icons splashscreen desktop
[02:26] <Firebird8> how do i run the widget factory
[02:26] <Firebird8> or does that not exist
[02:28] <Firebird8> do i just edit the member list
[02:28] <andreasn> yep
[02:29] <Firebird8> that simple...
[02:29] <Firebird8> and how do i upload work for ppls to see..
[02:30] <andreasn> put it on some webspace somewhere and post a mail to the ubuntu-art mailing list
[02:34] <andreasn> if you are interested in icons, you could track down application icons not using tango-style yet and redo those
[02:34] <Firebird8> umk
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[02:35] <andreasn> interesting
[02:35] <Firebird8> oh the cd icon needs the tango theme
[02:36] <Firebird8> interesting?
[02:36] <andreasn> I think jimmac used blender in the process when making some icons
[02:36] <andreasn> I never heard anyone that used blender only when making icons
[02:36] <Firebird8> i render it and post process in gimp
[02:37] <Firebird8> and blender makes it easier .. um for me
[02:37] <andreasn> is it possible to export svg's from blender?
[02:37] <Firebird8> lemme check
[02:37] <Firebird8> or ill export it from gimp
[02:37] <Firebird8> no svg
[02:37] <Firebird8> this is retarted
[02:37] <Firebird8> brb
[02:38] <Firebird8> bak
[02:38] <Firebird8> all my icons went on top of eachother
[02:38] <Firebird8> where are the human tango icons located
[02:39] <andreasn> http://xoomer.virgilio.it/bat/orango-tango/orango-tango-0.0.3.tar.bz2
[02:39] <Firebird8> no on the system
[02:39] <Firebird8> im running Flight 6
[02:39] <Firebird8> Dapper
[02:39] <Firebird8> or do i still have to download it
[02:40] <andreasn> I have sent them of to dholbach and I think he was going to make a package of them
[02:40] <andreasn> but I'm not sure he has gotten around to it yet
[02:44] <Firebird8> maybe tango should come in a variety of colors
[02:45] <andreasn> there are lots of color variations over at gnome-look.org
[02:45] <Firebird8> lots of those icoons in the package aren't being used...
[02:46] <Firebird8> i mean the human tango
[02:46] <Firebird8> to come in diff colors
[02:46] <andreasn> why do you think that?
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[02:47] <Firebird8> ah wel
[02:48] <andreasn> human tango was made in order to make it blend in better with the human gtk and metacity-theme
[02:48] <Firebird8> ah ok
[02:48] <andreasn> and it's pretty easy to find and download color modifications on theming-sites
[02:48] <Firebird8> how do i install the package i just downloaded
[02:49] <Firebird8> http://xoomer.virgilio.it/bat/orango-tango/orango-tango-0.0.3.tar.bz2
[02:49] <Firebird8> ^
[02:49] <Firebird8> compile?
[02:49] <andreasn> yep
[02:49] <andreasn> ./autogen.sh
[02:49] <andreasn> make
[02:49] <andreasn> make install
[02:51] <Firebird8> do i need su to do the last
[02:51] <andreasn> yes
[02:52] <Firebird8> ok its not gonna compile
[02:52] <Firebird8> it failed to detect something i already have
[02:54] <andreasn> icon-naming-utils?
[02:54] <Firebird8> no
[02:54] <Firebird8> imagemagick
[02:55] <andreasn> do you have the imagemagick-dev package installed?
[02:55] <Firebird8> imagemagick-devE: Package imagemagick-dev has no installation candidate
[02:56] <Firebird8> there is no imagemagick-dev
[02:57] <Firebird8> gonna restart
[02:57] <Firebird8> just updated
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[03:02] <Firebird8> wat type of file does the compile make
[03:07] <andreasn> ??
[03:08] <Firebird8> nvm
[03:08] <Firebird8> it won't compile
[03:13] <andreasn> have you tried libmagick9-dev?
[03:14] <Firebird8> installing..
[03:16] <Firebird8> thanks
[03:16] <Firebird8> compiled..
[03:17] <andreasn> cool
[03:17] <Firebird8> how do i use it now
[03:18] <Firebird8> its not in the icon list
[03:18] <andreasn> it's not?
[03:18] <andreasn> hm...
[03:18] <Firebird8> theres human but thats the old one
[03:19] <andreasn> hm, run ./autogen.sh again
[03:19] <andreasn> and then ./configure --prefix=/usr
[03:20] <andreasn> make
[03:20] <andreasn> make install
[03:20] <andreasn> that might do the trick
[03:20] <Firebird8> maybe ill just replace the old images/icons with the new ones
[03:20] <Firebird8> would that work
[03:20] <Firebird8> /usr/share/icons/Human/
[03:20] <andreasn> not sure, sounds a bit hard
[03:21] <andreasn> compiling it correctly is easier
[03:21] <Firebird8> autogen desn't work
[03:21] <andreasn> theme details > Icons
[03:22] <Firebird8> I did make, ./configure make install
[03:22] <andreasn> no orango tango there?
[03:22] <Firebird8> nope
[03:22] <andreasn> ./configure --prefix=/usr
[03:22] <andreasn> try that instead
[03:22] <Firebird8> nothing
[03:23] <andreasn> strange
[03:23] <Firebird8> ***Error***: some autoconf macros required to build orango-tango-icon-theme
[03:23] <Firebird8>   were not found in your aclocal path, or some forbidden
[03:23] <Firebird8>   macros were found.  Perhaps you need to adjust your
[03:23] <Firebird8>   ACLOCAL_FLAGS?
[03:23] <Firebird8> oh shity
[03:24] <Firebird8> ill drag and drop icons
[03:25] <andreasn> human still use the old naming-scheme though
[03:26] <Firebird8> tango came with Dapper i think
[03:26] <Firebird8> im using it atm
[03:26] <Firebird8> but it doesn't have all the icons
[03:27] <Firebird8> wats the icon file format
[03:27] <Firebird8> where u drag and drop into the icon theme choser
[03:31] <Firebird8> ill go make wallpaper
[03:32] <Firebird8> is there a ubuntu icon that is very large
[03:32] <andreasn> so you can scale it up?
[03:33] <Firebird8> no
[03:33] <Firebird8> so i can model it
[03:33] <andreasn> btw, do you have autotools-dev installed?
[03:33] <Firebird8> i ubuntu icon that is a large image
[03:33] <andreasn> m4 might be usable aswell
[03:33] <Firebird8> its installed
[03:33] <Firebird8> ima look on google image
[03:34] <andreasn> in the orango-tango-set there is a good logo in /scalable/places/start-here.svg
[03:34] <andreasn> hm, there is some package called autoconf-archive aswell
[03:34] <Firebird8> thx
[03:35] <andreasn> not sure if that will make stuff work or not
[03:36] <andreasn> dependency-hell ;)
[03:40] <Firebird8> ok made the ubuntu icon in blender
[03:43] <Firebird8> oH!
[03:43] <Firebird8> i just figured out y the ubuntu cds are colored the way they are
[03:46] <andreasn> oh?
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[04:20] <Firebird8> does this match the theme even though it sucks: http://www.firegfx.byethost7.com/images/test.png
[04:28] <andreasn> what did you change?
[04:29] <Firebird8> the title bar
[04:29] <Firebird8> just a test
[04:32] <Firebird8> how do i edit .theme files or are they just text files
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[06:44] <nomed> do u know if there is a taskmanager icon for gnome ?
[07:02] <Firebird8> there is
[07:02] <Firebird8> nomed, there is an icon
[07:04] <nomed> Firebird8, do u know the name too ?
[07:04] <Firebird8> um no
[07:04] <nomed> and if it's even on ubuntu icons theme ?
[07:04] <Firebird8> i can find it
[07:04] <Firebird8> does flight 6 use the tango theme
[07:05] <Firebird8> nomed, i think its computer.svg
[07:05] <Firebird8> but not sure
[07:05] <nomed> umm
[07:06] <Firebird8> flight 6 is not 100% using tango theme
[07:10] <Firebird8> um
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[07:10] <Firebird8> the HUMAN icon theme which came with Dapper flight 6 is better
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