[12:00] <Xenguy> RQ: damn small linux
[12:00] <delire> Xenguy: i don't know the innards of D.S.L all that well however..
[12:00] <memphis_> how can i check my NTFS drive for ERRORS ? (don't able to do this with fsck (!?) ) because i can NOT make partitions
[12:00] <mrhyd3> tielliot: Just ask your questions, someone might answer...
[12:00] <RQ> Xenguy, ah
[12:00] <RQ> ok
[12:00] <mrhyd3> memphis_: boot up windows xp or bartpe and perfrom a scandisk
[12:00] <Xenguy> delire: thanks again, this may have given my pal's laptop new hope other than W98 :-)
[12:01] <memphis_> mrhyd3: i have win2000 and it doesn't detect any errors
[12:01] <mrhyd3> memphis_: well, maybe you dont have any errors
[12:01] !lilo:*! it seems to be birthday....day. 8) cds also wanted to wish lscd a happy birthday :)
[12:01] <memphis_> mrhyd3: so why can i not make partitions :-( !??
[12:01] <mrhyd3> memphis_: what makes you believe there is
[12:01] <delire> Xenguy: a pleasure .. (also see http://www.puppyos.com/ for a comparable solution)
[12:01] <RQ> memphis_, what is your current partition layout?
[12:01] <patrick52222> Fissy: hows it goin
[12:02] <mrhyd3> prolly has too many primary parts
[12:02] <fissy> patrick52222: having a lot of trouble getting swat to start
[12:02] <delire> memphis_: you have ntfsprogs installed as another person mentioned?
[12:02] <memphis_> i have 2 HDs one with windows and the other (ntfs, 120 GB) with files, and i want ubuntu on the 2nd one.
[12:02] <memphis_> delire: yes
[12:03] <delire> memphis_: are you ensuring you're not trying to partition the mounted root partition?
[12:03] <memphis_> 100% sure
[12:03] <delire> memphis_: what is the output error?
[12:03] <mrhyd3> memphis_: not using windows encryption are you?
[12:03] <memphis_> nope
[12:03] <delire> mrhyd3: good thought nonetheless.
[12:03] <memphis_> there's no error message
[12:03] <delire> memphis_: so what happens?
[12:03] <tielliot> the on-screen keyboard isn't working properly.
[12:04] <Xenguy> delire: would you recommend one over the other?
[12:04] <delire> Xenguy: i've only tried DSL..
[12:04] <memphis_> only in qtparted i get "an error occurred", and in ubuntu install cd / Gparted, NOTHING happens with the partitons, it's sitll 120 GB
[12:04] <mrhyd3> delire: figure I get all the q/a's in the open before diggn further
[12:04] !lilo:*! and yet *another* request, this one from steveb, sending a happy birthday notice to djm 8)
[12:04] <Xenguy> delire: cool
[12:04] <delire> mrhyd3: wise ;)
[12:04] !lilo:*! you people all seem to have birthdays tonight 8)
[12:05] <memphis_> delire:  in qtparted i get "an error occurred", and in ubuntu install cd / Gparted, NOTHING happens with the partitons, it's sitll 120 GB altough i have applied settings
[12:05] <RQ> memphis_, try resizing the ntfs partition in windows
[12:05] <songo> help install java j2se jdk with apt-get
[12:05] <RQ> then creating your linux partitions in linux
[12:05] <mrhyd3> memphis_: so u want to repartition the 2nd HD which is formatted NTFS so you can install ubuntu correct?
[12:05] !lilo:*! djm suggests it might have been better to wait a few months until it's actually his birthday, so I guess I'd better stop taking those requests now 8)
[12:06] <memphis_> yes
[12:06] <RQ> !java
[12:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:06] <RQ> !tell songo about java
[12:06] <RQ> !tell songo about javadebs
[12:06] <memphis_> RQ, which tool can do this on win2000?
[12:06] <duelboot> delire, Nickgarvey, arrick, tonyyrarusso, what's the differnce between FrostWire and LimeWire beside the colors?
[12:06] <mrhyd3> memphis_: i'd just copy the data on the 2nd drive, and format the 2nd drive using ubuntu...
[12:06] <RQ> memphis_, partition magic
[12:06] <mrhyd3> memphis_: save you time
[12:06] <RQ> memphis_, not sure about the others :)
[12:07] <theshibboleth> how do I eject a cd when I get an eject error without logging out?
[12:07] <memphis_> 2nd drive is only 40GB, mrhyd3
[12:07] <Jan__> Hi I had a quick question and was wondering if anybody knew the answer. I need a kernel to work without initrd image. Therefore need to have everything compiled directly in the kernel without modules. Is it possible to use a compile option so that all the modules from the config automatically get changed from module to directly compile into the kernel?
[12:07] <mrhyd3> RQ: suggested that earlier <shrug>
[12:07] <delire> duelboot: i don't use Limewire anymore, and i haven't tried the other. i use 'nicotine', eMule and btdownloadcurses for my file-migrating needs.
[12:07] <RQ> Jan__, you don't need everything in the kernel
[12:07] <duelboot> delire, Nickgarvey, arrick, tonyyrarusso, how can I have an app write to an encrypted mount point...tried chowning, it did it, but still can't write to it...any ideas?
[12:08] <RQ> just your hdd controller, fs driver and maybe a few other modules
[12:08] <xstation> hi
[12:08] <memphis_> mrhyd3, what exactly is your solution?
[12:08] <RQ> not everything
[12:08] <Jan__> I know not normally. But need it in this case. I' compiling a custom kernel for g4l. A boot cd image...
[12:08] <delire> duelboot: you'll need to decrypt it, so it is writeable.
[12:08] <Ongo> hi people. I get temporary failure ina name resolution error on both, ubuntu i386 and amd64. I have Pny Nvidia Quadro FX1100 (dual monitors). Any ideas?
[12:08] <xstation> is there a progemme to enhance memory performance
[12:08] <mrhyd3> theshibboleth, unmount the cdrom
[12:08] <mrhyd3> umount that is
[12:08] <mrhyd3> xstation: sleep, vitamins
[12:08] <duelboot> delire, defeats the purpose doesn't it...cause when I would mount to it, I won't be able to see it
[12:09] <delire> duelboot: is it a win32 encrypted HDD?
[12:09] <memphis_> hmm so how can i resize this damn partition :-) !!??
[12:09] <xstation> mrhyd: and meditation
[12:09] <RQ> Jan__, well as i said, i think just a few drivers are enough, not all of them. However, if you want it so much, you can just run a magic command that alters your .config file
[12:09] <duelboot> delire, no should it be?  I made it ext2
[12:09] <mrhyd3> memphis_: 3rd party software (partition magic)
[12:09] <delire> duelboot: why is it encrypted? did you encrypt it?
[12:09] <RQ> memphis_, stop reasking.
[12:09] <duelboot> delire, I created an encrypted bin, then mounted it...bestcrypt
[12:10] <RQ> memphis_, use partition magic, or some other tool that claims to resize ntfs
[12:10] <schloob> does anyone know if the lexmark z735 works on linux? (so far it doesn't look like it does, but what does google know? :] )
[12:10] <RQ> memphis_, google for it
[12:10] <xstation> mrhyd3; and meditation///////////////
[12:10] <RQ> schloob, tried linuxprinting.org?
[12:10] <duelboot> google and jeves know all
[12:10] <memphis_> RQ, do you know why it DOESN'T work with the ubuntu isntall cds like in this Guide: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm ?
[12:10] <delire> duelboot: right.. i've never done this, but i have worked with encrypted file-systems. it sounds like what you're upto is different. don't think i can help.
[12:10] <mrhyd3> xstation: yes, meditation works
[12:10] <duelboot> delire, thx anyway...you gonna sleep tonight?
[12:11] <delire> going out clubbing now ;)
[12:11] <delire> night all
[12:11] <mrhyd3> l8r
[12:11] <duelboot> delire, just what is you nick anyway?
[12:11] <duelboot> your
[12:11] <Jan__> thanks for the answer. Probably can get rid of most of the drivers. But I try with magic. Never tried it. Thanks a lot for the tip and the help!
[12:11] <fissy> patrick52222: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105525&highlight=swat try using that
[12:11] <schloob> RQ: yeah, it's not listed in the supported printers thing, that's why i'm wondering if it works.
[12:11] <fissy> patrick52222: it doesn't work for me, which might because i'm using dapper
[12:12] <fissy> patrick52222: either way, ubuntu is a shit server os
[12:12] <xstation> mrhyd3: its not that it works it works even without you knwing its not a material  thing issubjective anyway what about my question
[12:12] <patrick52222> Fissy: ok cheers anyways
[12:12] <Ongo> hi people. I get temporary failure in name resolution error on both, ubuntu i386 and amd64. I have Pny Nvidia Quadro FX1100 (dual monitors). Any ideas?
[12:12] <kbrooks> fissy, ubuntu server exists
[12:12] <kbrooks> #ubuntu-server
[12:12] <cooper> anyone know how i can install wmcodecs
[12:12] <kbrooks> !ubuntu server
[12:12] <ubotu> kbrooks: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:12] <kbrooks> !server
[12:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[12:12] <_jason> cooper: you mean w32codecs?
[12:12] <cooper> exactly
[12:13] <xstation> fissy: debian sarge rules as server
[12:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell cooper about w32codecs
[12:13] <fissy> kbrooks: it's not a "server" question for a user to want to share files
[12:13] <ericz> anybody know of a progam in the repositories that you can edit tags on WMA files with?
[12:13] <RQ> Jan__, `magic` is not a command ;D
[12:13] <cooper> is it a long process?
[12:13] <_jason> cooper: no, one command (maybe 2?)
[12:13] <cooper> cheers
[12:14] <Jan__> aha was doing man magic and it found something. was assuming it was some kind of text manipulator
[12:14] <fissy> no os that blindly starts server daemons with default configs can be called a good server imo
[12:14] <Jan__> anyway
[12:14] <Jan__> I will just reduce the kernel
[12:14] <xstation> fluxt: good morning
[12:15] <theshibboleth> I had to force unmount the cdrom with "sudo umount /media/cdrom0/ -l
[12:15] <theshibboleth> ", but the disc still shows up on my desktop as though it were in the drive
[12:15] <Ongo> 02:08]  <Ongo> hi people. I get temporary failure ina name resolution error on both, ubuntu i386 and amd64. I have Pny Nvidia Quadro FX1100 (dual monitors). Any ideas?
[12:15] <fluxt> xstation: hello
[12:16] <Zakoota> Ongo, monitors should have no affect on networking
[12:16] <MarioC> Hello, any idea for setting the default music player?
[12:18] <fissy> MarioC: file associations can be set by going on a file's properties and choosing the Open With tab
[12:19] <MarioC> fissy, GNOME has a keyboard shortcuts, when setting "media player" runs some player, I would like to change that
[12:19] <MarioC> I should ask in #gnome
[12:20] <_jason> MarioC: if you find out, I'd really like to know too if you don't mind :)
[12:20] <angryfix> is there a way to completely disable the system beep, whether it's a terminal or in VIM?
[12:20] <cooper> hello
[12:21] <cooper> i'm trying to burn mp3 files to audio cd anyone know why my serpentine writing program wont let me add the files
[12:22] <_jason> angryfix: xset -b doesn't turn it off in vim?  You can always just mute the pc speaker in volume prefs
[12:22] <fissy> MarioC: does it open up rhythmbox?
[12:22] <reaps> Help ..ERROR loading OS..
[12:22] <angryfix> _jason: everything is muted. I was able to mute the beep in the terminal through the profile settings, but it's still there in the GUI version of VIM
[12:23] <MarioC> fissy, yes,
[12:23] <angryfix> i was wondering if there was global setting that would disable it for all apps using the beep
[12:23] <_jason> angryfix: did you try 'xset -b'
[12:23] <scared> how do I install manpages for common library functions ?
[12:23] <_jason> scared: manpages-dev
[12:24] <ericz> anybody know of a progam in the repositories that you can edit tags on WMA files with?
[12:24] <angryfix> _jason: it says -xset -b isn't a command in vim
[12:24] <ericz> or a program at all, repos or not
[12:24] <_jason> angryfix: no in a terminal I meant
[12:25] <cooper> _jason do you know how to burn audio cd's
[12:25] <_jason> angryfix: or I suppose you could do :!xset -b in vim :)
[12:25] <angryfix> _jason: that worked. It's now mute in both the terminal and VIM
[12:25] <angryfix> thanks
[12:25] <kcbanner> Question: Has ANYONE ever succefully ran MYOB accouting through wine on linux
[12:25] <_jason> cooper: I have never done it, have you looked at k3b?
[12:26] <cooper> yeah i got it but when i add files said mp3 is not supported
[12:26] <reaps> HELP "error booting OS"...
[12:26] <angryfix> _jason: where could I throw 'xset -b' so that it's executed automatically at boot?
[12:27] <_jason> angryfix: put it in your ~/.gnomerc, I don't know if you need to though
[12:27] <niner> anyone have luck getting grub to install on a secondary harddrive?   I need to keep grub out of the mbr of my win2k drive, but i wanted to use my BIOS to boot 2nd IDE HD.
[12:27] <kel39ru> ive been studied some years ago, and there ive learned/opened Linux for me, it was suse 8.0 (kde), so thats the way i see it. someones joke about suse changing default desctop for gnome like "it's the same as ferrari changes emblem for a duck" it's the way i see it, so now after some time (ive been all the time on XP..) ive got suse 10.0 oss. i had configured all for playing my mp3's and so, but, ive downl oaded GNU/Hurd live cd jsut to tak
[12:27] <kel39ru> e a look at .. and readed some documentation there, as they were advising GNU/Debian, so at the time ive been reading info about it ive discovered that this Ubuntu (alredy saw liveCD [looked nice to me] ) is a debian based popular distro. as i saw by popularity 1: Ubuntu 2:Suse 3:.        But as i see now , all blame Ubuntu for user (newbie) oriented, and meaning that it becoming kinda Windowsway
[12:27] <_jason> angryfix: that will execute it on login to gnome only
[12:28] <angryfix> ok
[12:29] <_jason> kel39ru: ok?
[12:32] <hhh> /bin/sh: gmake: command not found,    what package do i need to install gmake?, please
[12:32] <fissy> MarioC: if you get really desperate, removing rhythmbox from /usr/bin and putting a symlink to the media player of your choice seems to work
[12:32] <hhh> im trying to inctall nachOS
[12:32] <_jason> cooper: install k3b-mp3
[12:32] <MarioC> fissy, Yes.. :) https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/4265
[12:33] <newbie> from where i can download dapper ?
[12:33] <_jason> !dapper
[12:33] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:33] <_jason> !upgrade
[12:33] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[12:33] <fissy> MarioC: how lame they hard coded that in :( I didn't think rhythmbox was even a standard part of gnome!
[12:34] <svu> When I am using Dapper as NFS server, I am getting ENOLCK errors. Is it known problem?
[12:34] <tritium> fissy: it's not hard coded into anything
[12:34] <MarioC> _jason, solution is here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/4265 ... or some-kind of solution
[12:34] <_jason> svu: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[12:34] <_jason> MarioC: ah thanks
[12:34] <svu> _jason, thanks
[12:34] <fissy> tritium: ++ execute ("rhythmbox", FALSE); not hardcoded in?
[12:37] <dabaR> _jason: yeah, kel39ru was studied some years ago.
[12:37] <dabaR> That is a known fact.
[12:38] <phiber_optic> does anybody know how to see all the processes that are runinng and how much cpu utilization are they taking?
[12:38] <fissy> top
[12:39] <Shimonn> hi
[12:39] <fissy> or ps ax; or gnome-system-monitor
[12:39] <Ezter> ngon som knner till nn bra guide fr gnupg i ubuntu?
[12:39] <Shimonn> i'm trying to remove a package, but i get this error
[12:39] <jvai> @ optic - use "top" in terminl
[12:39] <Shimonn> Suppression de xorg-driver-fglrx ...
[12:39] <Shimonn> dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to
[12:39] <Shimonn>   when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[12:39] <Shimonn>   found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[12:39] <_jason> dabaR: :)
[12:39] <phiber_optic> jvai thank you...
[12:40] <phiber_optic> jvai do you know why whyen Imn idle my cpu is not in iddle ? like somehting is running
[12:40] <nigro> hello
[12:41] <nigro> anybody?
[12:41] <fissy> hi
[12:41] <alpha255> hi
[12:41] <jvai> x is running, & othr small things
[12:42] <tazman> how to get frostwire working in ubuntu
[12:42] <redguy> !anybody
[12:42] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[12:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell tazman about frostwire
[12:42] <jvai> top will show all these things
[12:42] <phiber_optic> frost wire freezes my computer for some reason
[12:42] <nigro> anybody know transex3?
[12:42] <diesel> does automount no longer work in dapper?
[12:43] <MarioC> works for me
[12:43] <jvai> <-- stuk on hoary
[12:43] <tazman> any other mp3 server with ubuntu
[12:44] <imr3o> hi
[12:44] <imr3o> anyone active?
[12:44] <kevin21> does wine have a gui?
[12:44] <MaynardK> greetings
[12:44] <kevin21> and if it does, how do i run it?
[12:45] <spine> i hope not allot of people from here did ht e aprils fools joke, OFTC banned me
[12:45] <spine> :(
[12:45] <tazman> any help with mp3 on ubuntu
[12:45] <b_e_n_z> what is OFTC
[12:45] <kevin21> how do i run wine?
[12:45] <MaynardK> tazman, what do you mean?
[12:45] <kevin21> i've installed it and everything
[12:45] <kaarlo> kevin21: Have u tried wincfg or wineconfig?
[12:45] <spine> http://www.oftc.net/
[12:46] <Madpilot> !tell tazman about mp3
[12:46] <kevin21> no
[12:46] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, wine my.exe
[12:46] <spine> the network that almost got DOS
[12:46] <kevin21> my.exe?
[12:46] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, in command
[12:46] <_jason> spine: can you tell me about the joke in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[12:46] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, in command give sommand wine followed by the name of ur exe sotware
[12:46] <imr3o> can i use a video projector attached to my laptop running breezy?
[12:46] <linuxboyfriend> software
[12:46] <kevin21> yeah but i can't see it because the folder is hidden
[12:47] <imr3o> i tried fn+f4 and my screen does go blank on my fujitsu siems amilo.
[12:47] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, then cd .hidden_folder
[12:47] <tazman> tring to play mp3 and download software
[12:47] <imr3o> the problem is that i got a presentation on monday and i can't test it til then
[12:48] <spine> _jason: i guess i could but ur not on
[12:48] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, ls -la will show u all the dirs
[12:48] <Stormx2> What can I use to view videos and such in firefox?
[12:48] <kevin21> ok hang on
[12:48] <_jason> spine: I am
[12:48] <fissy> imr3o: can you find a CRT monitor to do a test?
[12:48] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, :)
[12:48] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, ok
[12:48] <_jason> spine: #ubuntu-offtopic maybe the ? messed it up
[12:48] <valdir> alguma gatinha do Brasil?
[12:48] <_jason> !br
[12:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:49] <kevin21> it's in .wine
[12:49] <kevin21> so do i just cd .wine?
[12:49] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, ok "cd .wine"
[12:49] <imr3o> fissy: no, unfortunately
[12:49] <imr3o> fissy: but i'll try tomorrow
[12:49] <tazman> what can i use to download mp2
[12:49] <imr3o> fissy: good idea, thanks
[12:49] <tazman> 3
[12:49] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, then follow the dir in which the software installed
[12:49] <fissy> imr3o: np
[12:50] <kevin21> is there no gui for this? it's an arse to do this whenever i want to run a program
[12:50] <valdir> como eu fao?
[12:51] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, do run winecfg
[12:51] <linuxboyfriend> kevin21, first u have to run this command
[12:51] <gnomefreak> kevin21: for wine just run wine file.exe  whatever the file is say IE it will be in gui form
[12:51] <_jason> valdir: escreve assim: /join #ubuntu-br
[12:51] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, hi
[12:51] <PlantPerson> what's the minimum amount of space needed for ubuntu?
[12:51] <kcbanner> kevin21: wine "c:\program files\program\program.exe"
[12:51] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, do get my message?
[12:51] <kcbanner> quotes make it look like windows
[12:51] <valdir> legal
[12:51] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: yes it works fine
[12:51] <kevin21> winecfg doesn't work
[12:51] <juztin> can someone tell me what a metacity is?
[12:52] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, :) so u r enjoying it :)
[12:52] <PlantPerson> My disk says 1.8 GB minimum but the wiki says 10
[12:52] <kevin21> yes it does sorry
[12:52] <redguy> juztin: *the* matacity is a window manager
[12:52] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: i dont listen to music much on pc
[12:52] <PlantPerson> which is correct
[12:53] <fissy> the lower one
[12:53] <gnomefreak> !metacity
[12:53] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:53] <PlantPerson> 1.8 GB is the true minimum?
[12:53] <Eleaf> got hit by a windmill
[12:53] <gnomefreak> i always do :(
[12:53] <jadaz87> !botsnack
[12:53] <ubotu> :)
[12:54] <fissy> PlantPerson: there's only one cd to ubuntu, they can't expand that to 10GB :D. However, what do you want to do after install? you need a little space free to install and run programs in, as well as space for your users
[12:54] <jadaz87> what is a good wysiwyg web ide for linux?
[12:54] <delire_out> jadaz87: nvu, bluefish, quanta
[12:54] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: nvu
[12:54] <Eleaf> How do I make a tar archive that contains empty forlders?  Whenever I make an archive, it just removes any blank directory.  (These blank directories are crucial) =(..
[12:54] <Eleaf> folders*
[12:54] <gnomefreak> bluefish :)
[12:54] <_spiritz> jadaz87: nvu; but I would not say this is as good as Dreamweaver or whatever;
[12:55] <jadaz87> is bluefish wysiwyg? right now i am doing html coding
[12:55] <delire> _spiritz: dreamweaver writes awful bloated HTML.
[12:55] <dabaR> jadaz87: no
[12:55] <mikeblamires> bluefish isn't WYSIWYG
[12:55] <Eleaf> nvu is
[12:55] <_spiritz> delire: I know but I guess a newbie don't mind about how cute is his code.
[12:55] <mikeblamires> but it is great :)
[12:55] <PlantPerson> What's the minimum space you'd suggest? I want to set up a dual boot and I only have 20 GB hard drive
[12:55] <jadaz87> oh ok
[12:56] <PlantPerson> I'm not planning to do anything complicated
[12:56] <delire> _spiritz: many webshops refuse to allow authoring in dreamweaver..
[12:56] <_spiritz> PlantPerson: 20bg is ok
[12:56] <delire> _spiritz: sure..
[12:56] <jadaz87> i will also install nvu then too :-)
[12:56] <TheFuzzball> would anyone know why kxdocker keeps crashing?
[12:56] <delire> jadaz87: AFAIK nvu is the only truly wysiwyg editor
[12:56] <jadaz87> delire oh ok
[12:57] <delire> jadaz87: FYI http://www.nvu.com/
[12:57] <patrick52222> fissy:
[12:57] <fissy> PlantPerson: 3GB?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: i use mozilla composer and nvu with bluefish sometimes
[12:57] <PlantPerson> I was planning four GB. So, that should do very nicely.
[12:57] <_spiritz> I don't think that there's that much demand for wysiwyg :) Most of ppl running linux used more advanced softwares.
[12:57] <PlantPerson> thanks fissy
[12:58] <gnomefreak> i just cant remember if composer and bluefish are wysiwyg
[12:58] <delire> <-- prefers vim for writing HTML
[12:58] <jadaz87> gnomefreak i like bluefish because of its layout
[12:58] <patrick52222> fissy: got swat working i was typing http://localhost/901    but its http://localhost:901
[12:58] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: i do also
[12:58] <fissy> patrick52222: lol
[12:58] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, yes bluefish is wysiwyg
[12:58] <fissy> patrick52222: are you on ubuntu 5.10?
[12:58] <patrick52222> fissy: thanks for helping
[12:59] <gnomefreak> i dont have it installed atm
[12:59] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, i have
[12:59] <gabbah> hi. I when installed linux (ubuntu) I had faulty RAM, which I have now replaced. Could it be the case that my whole installation is buggy because of bad RAM? I've been having problems with bad filesystem and crashes. And now, after an update to the latest ubuntu dapper, It's sp fcsked up I can't start GDM.. it's in an endless loop trying to start it. :/
[12:59] <patrick52222> fissy: yep 5.10 i was on dapper but i had some probs so i cam back 5.10
[12:59] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, and its GUI
[12:59] <gnomefreak> i will before nights over :)
[12:59] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: yes i know i use it
[12:59] <TheFuzzball> how do Install  XGL?
[12:59] <fissy> patrick52222: fair enough. I tried loads of things on dapper, but without success
[12:59] <jadaz87> !xgl
[12:59] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:00] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: something crapped out so i had to fix and that was one of the packages to go
[01:00] <jadaz87> !botsnack
[01:00] <ubotu> :)
[01:00] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, no, acutally i was confirming you that bluefish is wysiwyg
[01:00] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, i have installed though i dont know how to use it :)
[01:00] <TheFuzzball> thats good, I have dapper
[01:00] <gnomefreak> lol linuxboyfriend open it and start
[01:01] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, lemme check
[01:01] <gnomefreak> TheFuzzball: dapper talk in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:01] <patrick52222> fissy: i will go back to dapper, but i will gte use to ubuntu first
[01:01] <TheFuzzball> k
[01:02] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, its a web editor for experience users and i dont know even simple codes :)
[01:04] <alpha255> ubotu tell alpha255 about drapper
[01:04] <GeorgeAScott> hello
[01:04] <alpha255> ubotu tell alpha255 about apt
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell alpha255 about msg the bot
[01:05] <gnomefreak> hello GeorgeAScott
[01:05] <alpha255> gnomefreak: sorry got it
[01:05] <jadaz87> !dapper
[01:05] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:05] <alpha255> gnomefreak: can i just change the pointer in the sources file to flight 6 if I'm using flight 5 ?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> alpha255: just sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:06] <jadaz87> does ubuntu have anyother backgrounds other than the Ubuntu Lagoon?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> alpha255: once a flight is installed there is no flight number you get the updates that the flights get
[01:06] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: yes
[01:07] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: there is a package of backgronds under gnome in synaptic (sure kde has them too)
[01:07] <alpha255> gnomefreak: so any installed flight will update to the lates flight... nice :)
[01:07] <gnomefreak> alpha255: yes
[01:07] <alpha255> thnx ! :)
[01:07] <gnomefreak> alpha255: to get kernel updates either use the update manager or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:08] <Bob_Dobbs_Sucks>  :)
[01:08] <gnomefreak> whois Bob_Dobbs_Sucks
[01:10] <jadaz87> oh thank goodness the Ubuntu Lagoon is depressing
[01:10] <GeorgeAScott> is there any place with pre made usplash images?
[01:11] <phiber_optic> anybody knows how to copy a file from a remote computer to my own computer?
[01:11] <LathropWells> http://gnomelook.org
[01:12] <_jason> phiber_optic: do you have ssh access?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: and GeorgeAScott  try the site that LathropWells gave
[01:12] <siimo> hi my dapper openoffice has no spell check dictionaries can anyone help please?
[01:12] <GeorgeAScott> can grub 4.7 handle splash images?
[01:12] <delire> phiber_optic: 'scp you@remotehost:/path/to/file .'
[01:12] <LathropWells> phiber_optic - i haven't used vnc or tightvnc, scp but i hear them mentioned often
[01:13] <phiber_optic> _jason I do have ssh
[01:13] <Elly> hmm
[01:13] <delire> phiber_optic: scp can be used to copy file(s) to a remote computer by reversing the command: 'scp /path/to/file you@remotehost:.'
[01:14] <Elly> configure dies with 'the C compiler cannot create executables', but I have gcc 4.0.2 installed, ?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> Elly: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:15] <siimo> damn i think i broke my system, adjusted the clock and now cant sudo it says timestamp too far in future
[01:15] <palomer> what's a good application to backup my home directory to an external disk?
[01:15] <Elly> palomer: tar
[01:15] <gnomefreak> siimo: you need to use ntp or just change it in your bios ;)
[01:15] <axisys> hi all .. i connected my samsung sports camcorder to my usb.. how do i access it now?
[01:16] <_jason> phiber_optic: I was going to say what delire said about scp, you can use nautilus too just go to file > connect to server
[01:16] <oxygene_> gnome-vfs is slow with sftp
[01:16] <siimo> gnomefreak, it was set wrong and i fixed it and now i can no longer sudo
[01:16] <delire> _jason: wow.. didn't know nautilus has support for this now..
[01:16] <oxygene_> this is known
[01:16] <siimo> do i need to reboot
[01:16] <phiber_optic> _jason how do I use nautilus
[01:16] <gnomefreak> siimo: if you set it with ntp no
[01:16] <delire> palomer: i use rsync for this.
[01:17] <oxygene_> delire: don't expect the same speed as with konqueror fish://
[01:17] <delire> palomer: there are gui backup utilities also, as rsync isn't.
[01:17] <gnomefreak> !backup
[01:17] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[01:18] <delire> oxygene_: i don't use Gnome or KDE, but i do run konqueror for this purpose. light years ahead of any other application of it's class on any OS.
[01:18] <_jason> phiber_optic: file > connect to server... then it will show up in the tree on the left.  Just use it like a folder on your computer
[01:18] <alpha255> i've had good luck with gnome and browsing ssh on remote machines
[01:18] <delire> _jason: does it use SSH for the transfer and handshake?
[01:18] <embrik> hi, i'm a debian user just installed ubuntu on my lapto. It works just fine. how do i open console do I use apt-get in ubuntu as in debian?
[01:18] <phiber_optic> whats the default port for ssh?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> 22
[01:18] <_jason> delire: yes, just choose ssh from the server type
[01:18] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic: ^^
[01:18] <delire> embrik: open a terminal
[01:18] <delire> _jason: excellent to know, cheers.
[01:19] <Madpilot> embrik, apt-get works - terminal is at Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[01:19] <delire> embrik: 'sudo apt-get install foo' just as in debian
[01:19] <phiber_optic> _jason I click on connect and nothing happens
[01:19] <phiber_optic> :(
[01:19] <palomer> delire: know of any gui based ones?
[01:19] <patrick52222> wat do i get .rpm or tar.gz
[01:20] <alpha255> embrik: it is under applications pull down
[01:20] <delire> palomer: 'apt-cache search backup gui'
[01:20] <gnomefreak> patrick52222: a .deb if you can
[01:20] <alpha255> i think accessories
[01:20] <embrik> great, is it possible to install kde?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> patrick52222: what package is it?
[01:20] <patrick52222> Webmin
[01:20] <jadaz87> embrik sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <delire> palomer: if you find something interesting 'apt-cache show interestingThing' for more information.
[01:20] <axisys> !samsung
[01:20] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[01:20] <axisys> !camcorder
[01:20] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[01:20] <embrik> thanks
[01:21] <axisys> !usb
[01:21] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[01:21] <gnomefreak> patrick52222: i think webmin is in the repos
[01:21] <patrick52222> ok i will look
[01:21] <alpha255> is an openssh server found on the drapper drake flight 5 disk?
[01:21] <axisys> anyone played with samsung camcorder? i connected to my usb but do not see it conneced?
[01:21] <Madpilot> axisys, asking an actual question of the humans here might get better responses than the bot :P
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell patrick52222 about webmin
[01:21] <alpha255> or do i do an apt-get install openssh-server
[01:21] <alpha255> ?
[01:21] <delire> palomer: i would look into bacula-console-gnome and sbackup
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: thank you for fixing that java part on the wiki
[01:22] <alpha255> axisys: take a look at the logs and see what is there..
[01:22] <freebird> gday boys
[01:22] <alpha255> axisys: i sometime do a tail -f /path/to/log/logfile
[01:22] <Quenyar> Any flash experts online now?
[01:22] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, which part? Don't think I've messed with RestrictedFormats in a while
[01:23] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: no the ww2d
[01:23] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, oh right - I often do proofreading runs thru new pages like that
[01:23] <Quenyar> I have a peculiar behavior - flash plugin loaded, background image plays, but text doesn't.
[01:23] <axisys> alpha255: i did and this is all i got http://pastebin.com/634982
[01:23] <Bob_Dobbs_Sucks>  :)
[01:25] <axisys> alpha255: any other idea?
[01:26] <phiber_optic> _jason do you know how to mount a volume automatically... like the one I just did
[01:26] <alpha255> axisys: hang on
[01:27] <Quenyar> When I go to other flash test sites, they seem to work, but this flash animation doesn't.  Any ideas?
[01:27] <Dr_House> hey everyone
[01:27] <Madpilot> Quenyar, install the MS font package, some flash thing need those fonts for text display
[01:27] <LathropWells> http://smorgasbord.net/files/winmac_fstab <<- this script will locate available partitions and mount them automatically
[01:27] <Dr_House> i've got breezy installed and i'm trying to install windows x64 to dualboot .. i just installed windows off the CD and when it restarts, i get "operating system not found"
[01:28] <Dr_House> anyone know why i can't dual boot?
[01:28] <Madpilot> Dr_House, probably because Windows screwed something up - it's good at that
[01:28] <alpha255> dr_house: install the less of the two operating systems first
[01:28] <alpha255> aka windows
[01:29] <alpha255> window will wipe out he master boot record
[01:29] <Dr_House> alpha .. i did it that way a while ago
[01:29] <nick89> hi all
[01:29] <Dr_House> i had windows on and i tried installing linux .. i got the same error
[01:29] <LathropWells> Dr_House - Windows doesn't see other oses and overwrote your boot loader "grub" use the CD to reinstall your boot loader
[01:29] <Dr_House> so i just formatted everything and put lniux on alone
[01:29] <nick89> can someone enlighten me to what client ubuntu uses for smb?
[01:29] <alpha255> dr_house: is this on sata drive?
[01:30] <thingfish> smbclient?
[01:30] <Dr_House> alpha255, yes
[01:30] <LathropWells> << installed Ubuntu to the restore partition. (likes to live life on the edge. - lol)))
[01:30] <nick89> so does anyone know how to an smbmount (smbmount is a samba feature)
[01:30] <alpha255> axisys: dunno what could be the problem
[01:30] <jmhodges> anyone know a good way to figure out why a certain page is crashing firefox?
[01:30] <YusukeLinux> onde q eu acho um exemplo de source.list maneiro pro ubuntu?????
[01:31] <alpha255> axisys: might try looking at permissions the devices file in the filesystem
[01:31] <freebird> <-newbie, hey guys i was checkin out different features on my new system and found this chat site
[01:31] <delire> jmhodges: FF is a tad rubbish these days. happens on all OS's.
[01:31] <alpha255> dr_house: did you isntall the mbr on the 1st sata drive?
[01:31] <LathropWells> Welcome freebird. shh.. Don't tell anyone else.
[01:31] <thingfish> YusukeLinux: ninguem aqui fala portugues.  Fala em ingles.
[01:32] <Dr_House> alpha255 when i was installing linux, that particular SATA drive was the only one i had plugged in
[01:32] <oxygene_> did you add a drive later?
[01:32] <LathropWells> !ubotu portugues
[01:32] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LathropWells
[01:32] <jmhodges> delire: yeah, but i was hoping to figure out some specifics to see if its been fixed and/or reported already
[01:32] <nick89> so does anyone know how to mount an smb resource?
[01:32] <axisys> alpha255: http://pastebin.com/634993 this shows i do have a usb.. i guess i am looking for a driver now
[01:32] <gnomefreak> !pr
[01:32] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:32] <jadaz87> !es
[01:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:32] <jadaz87> !fr
[01:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:32] <thingfish> !br
[01:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:32] <LathropWells> that isn't the good link
[01:32] <delire> jmhodges: i think it has memory management issues. sadly there doesn't seem to be a debug mode as there is with Opera and others.
[01:32] <YusukeLinux> thingfish valeu
[01:32] <thingfish> om, it should be "Obrigado".
[01:33] <thingfish> unless ubotu is female.
[01:33] <delire> jmhodges: difficult to get output on such things. tried running it from the term and visiting the page? may provide output you could pass on to the FF devs.
[01:33] <Quenyar> Thank you - adding MSfonts did in fact do the trick...
[01:34] <freebird> i downloaded a flash player linux.tar.gz and cant get the web site to recognize it
[01:34] <esj> anybody have any experience with bit torrent and specifically launchmany-console?
[01:34] <delire> freebird: did you go through the installation procedure on the macromedia page?
[01:35] <freebird> i have the page up but cant follow
[01:35] <delire> esj: no, though i do use btdownloadcurses.
[01:35] <esj> hmmm
[01:36] <delire> esj: what's up? i can try it here now, though i'm on Debian currently.
[01:36] <duelboot> delire, thought you were going to sleep, or did you take a power nap?
[01:36] <esj> the problem I'm having is that I can't get launchmany-console to load up as a seeder
[01:36] <delire> duelboot: i was going to go out with my GF but it turns out the club was closed down.
[01:37] <esj> I have the torrent file locally and I can connect the tracker.  Both launchmany-console and my client can see the tracker and the seeder but I can't get the seeder to know about the files related to the torrents
[01:37] <freebird> yes delire i did
[01:37] <palomer> grr, sbackup doesn't work
[01:37] <freebird> its installed, but i cant get it to initalize
[01:38] <delire> esj: i see. that's a tricky one and a bit specific for this channel perhaps. why not look for forums on the software?
[01:38] <duelboot> delire, have I mentioned that I REALLY like Ubuntu?  I have everything working now...BTW, I fixed my Write probelm, by just setting the app to start with root priv
[01:38] <esj> delire: I have.  Nobody's awake
[01:38] <embrik> this was interesting (ubuntu i mean). I'm using skolelinux (debian-edu) at my school on the stationaries, but I haven't been able to get it to wok onthe laptops. Ubuntu did out of the box :-)
[01:38] <mirak> is there a channel for dapper ?
[01:39] <mirak> I have a problem with manpages
[01:39] <duelboot> embrik, you got it in a box?  :)
[01:39] <esj> and most of the bit torrent forums are for filesharing.  There is nothing for technical and the mailing list has been shutdown
[01:39] <mirak> I don't have /usr/bin/man
[01:39] <mirak> though I installed the packages
[01:40] <delire> duelboot: excellent. it's a great OS. alot of freedom and alot of functionality..
[01:40] <embrik> duelboot: a box? No, it means; it worked without any need for extra fixings with drivers, wireless cards, graphic cards...
[01:41] <mantono> How do I force an install of an i386 package on amd64?
[01:41] <duelboot> embrik, i get it...notice the :)
[01:41] <delire> esj: hmm a shame. these things sometimes take time. i'd look into an alternative in the meantime if your confident that you've gone right through the man pages.
[01:41] <embrik> :-)
[01:41] <delire> mantono: you don't need to force it AFAIK
[01:41] <sfar> anyone know how to make special characters (like ) work in xmms?
[01:41] <duelboot> delire, it's the first time I got my webcam to work...now if only I can get my wireless going when I get back home...it shouldn't be a prob
[01:41] <esj> delire: there are no man pages
[01:41] <delire> mirak: #ubuntu+1
[01:41] <mantono> delire: how do I install then?
[01:41] <delire> duelboot: what's the card?
[01:41] <mirak> #ubuntu+1
[01:41] <esj> and I really need to set up the service
[01:42] <nick89> anyone know how to mount an smb drive?
[01:42] <esj> okay.  I will struggle with it on my own
[01:42] <delire> mantono: just stick the x86-i386 CD in and away you go.
[01:42] <alpha255> nick89: samb.org and look at the book section on the left colum
[01:42] <embrik> can I install kaffeine as well. The mediaplayer didn't work on aspx-files
[01:42] <delire> esj: sorry.. i would try a couple of other linux channels, even look for a bittorrent channel specifically.
[01:43] <CodyDH> When was Ubuntu 5.10 released?
[01:43] <mantono> delire: You mean install i386-ubuntu?
[01:43] <duelboot> delire, wusb54g...linksys USB...how will ndiswrapper handle it?  I couldn't get ndis to work with Mandr***, so I bought driverloader and it worked...presume it'll work with Ubuntu if I can't get ndis to work...not at home now...on business trip
[01:43] <delire> esj: also see freshmeat.net for other bt tracker/seeder solutions.
[01:43] <gnomefreak> CodyDH: oct 2005
[01:43] <nick89> alpha255: i've had a look and found the smbmount command, but i get a bash: command not found when i try it
[01:43] <CodyDH> gnomefreak: : Cool... when will the new one come out?
[01:43] <alpha255> nick89: if you are on a private network w/o a dns server enter info in the /etc/hosts file that will speed things up
[01:43] <Vinn> Does anyone know how to turn off the binary backups of SQL querries for mysql? One of my hosted gaming sites is filling my servers drive up fairly rapidly, http://www.thenexuscore.com
[01:43] <gnomefreak> june 1st
[01:43] <delire> mantono: yes, x86-64 is just a superset of x86-i386. no harm done installing a version that supports less bits.
[01:43] <CodyDH> OK
[01:43] <alpha255> nick89: you're doing that as root right?
[01:44] <duelboot> embrik, yes you can install kaffeine
[01:44] <alpha255> sudo -s for a root prompt
[01:44] <nick89> alpha255: yeah
[01:44] <CodyDH> gnomefreak: When the new version comes out, will I be able to specify the new repos and upgrade easily that way?
[01:44] <alpha255> hang on
[01:44] <mantono> delire: well, kind of late now. And I know that it is possible to do it, I just can't remember how.
[01:44] <esj> delire: I have already been through two different implementations that have both failed because of a miserable lack of documentation. 1 IRC channel that fails and it's making me mutter things about "heat death of the open-source universe closer than it appears"
[01:44] <steve_> i'm trying to install music-applet from source, but configure is complaining: no package 'libpanel-applet-2.0' found.  But I have 'libpanel-applet2-0' .....  what's wrong?
[01:44] <carrarro> Hello, I need some help installing an application that I just downloaded.
[01:44] <delire> duelboot: that sounds fine to me.. i'd look in the Ubuntu wiki for other people's experiences with that card. i've been lucky enough to use prism54 and now a Centrino (ipw2200) so have never dealt with ndiswrapper personally.
[01:45] <YusukeLinux> who in this chat speak in portuguese?
[01:45] <krazykit> steve_: check to see if you have the -dev package, if there is one
[01:45] <freebird> does ubuntu have its own flash media? or do i need to add application??
[01:45] <delire> esj: far from dying my friend. unless you pay for support you can't complain ;)
[01:45] <IamEthos> there are no maximum size requirements on an ext3 partition, right?
[01:45] <steve_> krazykit, i don't.  is that what it's asking for?
[01:45] <YusukeLinux> today i m with want to rest...
[01:45] <axisys> anyone else had luck with camcorder? trying to upload into my laptop
[01:45] <krazykit> steve_: probably
[01:45] <esj> I would pay for support if it was possible to find someone in many circumstances
[01:45] <YusukeLinux> anyone else?
[01:46] <esj> I have customers that would gladly pay for it but many times it just isn't available
[01:46] <krazykit> IamEthos: no, not realistically
[01:46] <delire> esj: much is experimental software, some made in th bedroom. some is made by IBM..
[01:46] <esj> but this is a discussion we can have off-line
[01:46] <CodyDH> IamEthos: Maximum size???
[01:46] <BlueHeron> how do i turn gam_server off for good
[01:46] <gnomefreak> CodyDH: there will be an update tool
[01:46] <steve_> krazykit, ok. installing a bunch of packages now.  Thanks.  I'll be back if it doesn't work. :)
[01:46] <delire> esj: i'm sure you'll find support for this torrent software you're using somewhere.
[01:46] <IamEthos> CodyDH: I know, that wouldn't make much sense to me either, but PM was getting an unknown error
[01:47] <IdleOne> BlueHeron, remove it
[01:47] <CodyDH> IamEthos: What size were you going for?
[01:47] <BlueHeron> IdleOne: how
[01:47] <axisys> YusukeLinux: i meant anyone else tried?
[01:47] <IamEthos> not very huge
[01:47] <IamEthos> not "HUGE" at all, really
[01:47] <IamEthos> 120 GB
[01:47] <IdleOne> BlueHeron, sudo apt-get --purge remove package name
[01:47] <thingfish> YusukeLinux: faca /join #ubuntu-br.  Falam portugues ai.
[01:48] <carrarro> How do you install an application?
[01:48] <thingfish> carrarro: apt-get install foo
[01:48] <steve_> carrarro, what are you trying to install?
[01:48] <IdleOne> carrarro, what application?
[01:48] <delire> !tell carrarro about apt
[01:48] <IdleOne> !tell carrarro about universe
[01:48] <BlueHeron> IdleOne: lol it wants to remove all my programs lmfao
[01:48] <IdleOne> !tell carrarro about cli
[01:49] <carrarro> oaky it's Linux PSP Manager
[01:49] <BlueHeron> IdleOne: all my programs came up when i tried to remove it
[01:49] <steve_> System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[01:49] <IdleOne> BlueHeron, hmmm not good
[01:49] <Luzer> woot
[01:49] <gnomefreak> !tell carrarro about synatpic
[01:49] <delire> BlueHeron: what is the program?
[01:49] <BlueHeron> gamin
[01:49] <delire> gnomefreak: oops typo
[01:49] <carrarro> yup...
[01:49] <IamEthos> can anyone recommend any music production applications
[01:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell carrarro about synaptic
[01:49] <IamEthos> along the lines of Reason and FLStudio for windows?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> ty guys saw that ;)
[01:49] <delire> IamEthos: LMMS, Hydrogen, Audacity, Ardour
[01:50] <IdleOne> IamEthos, look on packages.ubuntu.com
[01:50] <BlueHeron> IdleOne: what should i do
[01:50] <delire> IamEthos: the first two are sequencers, the first of those is like 'fruityloops'.
[01:50] <IdleOne> BlueHeron,  I dont know
[01:50] <IamEthos> delire: is there anything better than audacity for Linux?
[01:50] <delire> IamEthos: the last two are used for editing audio, the latter is a fully featured 'Pro-Tools' like DAW.
[01:51] <delire> IamEthos: http://ardour.org
[01:51] <tanuki_> is it possible to access my linux partition in windows?
[01:51] <IamEthos> it just doesn't have the waveform editing capabilities and all of the bells and whistles that Adobe Audition has
[01:51] <thingfish> tanuki_: explore2fs
[01:51] <delire> IamEthos: and for LMMS: http://lmms.sf.net
[01:51] <carrarro> Thank you guys.
[01:51] <delire> IamEthos: ardour is a good application, a learning curve but powerful. also runs on 64 bit workstations.. the first of it's kind.
[01:51] <BlueHeron> is ext3 better then ext2 ?
[01:52] <tanuki_> thingfish: where can i get thqt?
[01:52] <IamEthos> delire: hmm
[01:52] <IamEthos> looks interesting
[01:52] <Viking667> BlueHeron: not really. Has journalling on top of ext2, that's pretty much it.
[01:52] <IamEthos> if not tricky
[01:52] <delire> BlueHeron: yes, it's a 'journalled' version of ext2 meaning it makes regular 'backups' of fs contents. in this way it's safer if your machine powers off suddenly or whatever.
[01:52] <IamEthos> I'll have to give it a try
[01:52] <BlueHeron> delire: oh good
[01:52] <Bambino> Goodevning guys sorry for disturbing when so many questions is up in the air, but I am about to rip my head off, indeed I am cause I dont understand much :P I am totally new to linux whatsoever, first time i see it running is now when i installd it. I want to install the broadcom for my acer aspire 5024 laptop. Now, i read how to, and i downloaded the zip file that is needed plus the instructions. However, it says that I need "Make, Gnu, Install" as well. 
[01:53] <thingfish> tanuki_: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[01:53] <BlueHeron> Bambino: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:53] <MisterN> n8
[01:53] <alpha255> bambino: you're doing really well for a first time user
[01:53] <delire> Bambino: BlueHeron is giving you a command to write into the terminal to get necessary tools to compile software.
[01:54] <alpha255> bambino: it's a takes  little while to get the hang of things
[01:54] <BlueHeron> Bambino: yep
[01:54] <eth0-noob> does anyone know how to make a popup(warning popup w/ok thing)?
[01:54] <krazykit> hmmm....
[01:54] <delire> Bambino: you can also aquire the 'build-essential' tools using the graphical frontend for installing software called 'synaptic'.
[01:54] <IamEthos> delire: are these in packages in synaptec?
[01:54] <IamEthos> or do I have to install them on my own?
[01:54] <krazykit> maybe the problem is that i'm missing /usr...
[01:54] <NRG88> hi, how can i enable caps lock at system startup?
[01:54] <kditty> eth0-noob, regarding to what?
[01:54] <tanuki_> thingfish: is it possible to write to the linux partition with this program?
[01:54] <delire> IamEthos: i don't know.. i'm using Debian here right now so cannot check.
[01:54] <eth0-noob> just a popup
[01:54] <ipfw> http://freshmeat.net/redir/fox/2819/url_homepage/www.fox-toolkit.com <- anyone else have trouble with the FM site & FireFox-1.0.7 (Ubuntu-Breezy), wanting to Open/Save the link as a File instead of a website ?
[01:54] <alpha255> did I hear      synAPTic ! :)
[01:54] <eth0-noob> that you hve to hit ok
[01:54] <eth0-noob> brb
[01:54] <thingfish> tanuki_: not sure.  Didn't used to be able to.
[01:54] <kditty> web?
[01:55] <IamEthos> gotcha
[01:55] <eth0-noob> ...
[01:55] <delire> IamEthos: 'apt-cache search ardour lmms' will tell all
[01:55] <Bambino> Ok guys, all who answered thats one of the questions so thanks ;) What about the codecs + the GNU, install and make?
[01:55] <IamEthos> yeah
[01:55] <IamEthos> thanks
[01:55] <tanuki_> can someone tell me what file the hostname for my computer is stored in?
[01:55] <BlueHeron> Bambino: you need codecs also? sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[01:55] <pastryness> is it natural for ubuntu to not let me log onto root? when i type in su and the password, it keeps saying sorry and wont let me
[01:55] <thingfish> tanuki_: look for /etc/hostname
[01:56] <Bambino> BlueHeron, can I do that without having internet connection?
[01:56] <delire> Bambino: as for the broadcom - do things one step at a time and one of us here can walk you through the process. let us know when your build-essential package is installed.
[01:56] <BlueHeron> Bambino: no
[01:56] <thingfish> tanuki_: that's where it is in Debian. :)
[01:56] <alpha255> pastyrness sudo -s
[01:56] <thingfish> pastryness: you should not log in as root.
[01:56] <Bambino> delire, I cant mate. I am on my laptop, and i am running both ubuntu and windows. So I have to log out so its gonna take a while. So I will start with that I guess. brbr
[01:56] <delire> pastryness: avoid logging in as root user.
[01:56] <alpha255> thingfish: sudo instead then?
[01:56] <thingfish> pastryness: log in as a regular user, then if you need to do root stuff, open a terminal, use sudo.
[01:57] <delire> Bambino: see you soon. i might not be around but others that are knowledgable will be.
[01:57] <BlueHeron> anyone know why i can't remove gamin, without it wanting to remove al my programs?
[01:57] <thingfish> alpha255: yes
[01:57] <Bambino> delire, thank you.
[01:57] <tanuki_> thingfish:im having trouble connecting to the internet in ubuntu, and i think it has someonething to do with the hostname that was set during setup, it did not look like it usually looks during setup, ie; my computer name, it gave me an ip address and i have not been able to connect since even though i changed the hostname using the hostname command, any other ideas?
[01:57] <delire> Bambino: no problem.
[01:57] <delire> BlueHeron: that is bad.. can you post the full output in a pastebin?
[01:57] <Bambino> Oh one last question before i log off, anyone have any idea why my "monitor.exe" is causing problems? After the ubuntu instalaltion, its causing an error when i start windows which is causing it to terminate
[01:57] <thingfish> tanuki_: what does /etc/hostname have in it?
[01:57] <BlueHeron> delire: yes one moment
[01:57] <eth0-noob> ok im back
[01:58] <tanuki_> thingfish: the hostname i set using the command
[01:58] <thingfish> tanuki_: it might be /etc/network.../hostname
[01:58] <IdleOne> anybody know of a virtual private server (VPS)?
[01:58] <eth0-noob> how would i make a popup ? one that says a message and has an ok. ??
[01:58] <tanuki_> thingfish: however when i login it does not give me this hostname, it gives me the one set during setup
[01:58] <pastryness> even if i use sudo -s it still keeps saying sorry when i try to log on with root
[01:58] <delire> eth0-noob: in what display environment?
[01:58] <eth0-noob> delire xfce and ggnome
[01:59] <BlueHeron> delire: http://pastebin.com/635026
[01:59] <nick89> I worked out the smbmount :)
[01:59] <eth0-noob> both ( i use both )
[01:59] <thingfish> tanuki_: odd.  what makes you think your lack of internet access has to do with your hostname?
[01:59] <_jason> pastryness: sudo -s is root
[01:59] <tanuki_> i am having trouble connecting to the internet in ubuntu, can someone help me?
[01:59] <delire> eth0-noob: you'll need to look into either GTK or the native XFCE API's and write one. i'd probably use python-gtk.
[01:59] <thingfish> tanuki_: what network card?
[01:59] <_jason> pastryness: you should actually use sudo -i instead
[01:59] <delire> BlueHeron: i'll check.
[01:59] <BlueHeron> delire: thanks
[01:59] <thingfish> tanuki_: you need to give as much detail as possible.
[01:59] <eth0-noob> ok
[02:00] <tanuki_> thingfish: because it looked unusual at setup, it did not look like it has in the past, everytiome i have installed ubuntu it gave me a differentr hostname, this time it gave me a static ip address
[02:00] <tanuki_> thingfish: for example, the hostname usually looks something like: yourname_8927364987 < and an alphanumeric sequence
[02:00] <thingfish> tanuki_: sorry, I've never heard of such behavior before.
[02:00] <tanuki_> thingfish: this time it gave me an ip address: adsl-something.something.something.something
[02:00] <thingfish> tanuki_: again, what does /etc/hostname say?
[02:01] <tanuki_> thingfish: it gives the hostname i set with the hostname command
[02:01] <tanuki_> however i do not get that hostname when i login or boot into ubuntu
[02:01] <kditty> !dualboot
[02:01] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:01] <delire> BlueHeron: hmm.. there will be a core dependency in there that is shared by Gamin and by Gnome by the looks of it. i would try an 'sudo aptitute remove gamin' and see what output you get. do not accept, just tell me what happens.
[02:01] <molinero> !dapper
[02:01] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[02:01] <mqueiros> hi! Is there any GUI for cron available on ubuntu ?
[02:01] <delire> BlueHeron: are you on Dapper?
[02:01] <BlueHeron> delire: breezy
[02:02] <delire> BlueHeron: are you using any unauthorized/unofficial repositories?
[02:02] <thingfish> tanuki_: keep asking.  maybe someone can help you figure out what's going on.  I'd help further, but I'm actually not running ubunut.
[02:02] <thingfish> *ubuntu
[02:02] <BlueHeron> delire: yes
[02:02] <delire> BlueHeron: that is why you're having this problem. what are they?
[02:02] <delire> BlueHeron: (thanks for being honest btw ;)
[02:02] <delire> BlueHeron: nearly everyone says "NO!" and then it turns out they do..
[02:03] <BlueHeron> delire: lol, i know i got em all basicly
[02:03] <BlueHeron> delire: want me to pastebin my sources ?
[02:03] <BlueHeron> delire: and aptitude gives the same output
[02:03] <delire> BlueHeron: perhaps not necessary. i would comment them all out and then 'apt-get update' then try removing it.
[02:03] <tanuki_> can smoeone give me an idea why i might be unable to connect to the internet in ubuntu?
[02:03] <delire> BlueHeron: only comment out the unofficial repos..
[02:03] <BlueHeron> k
[02:04] <thingfish> tanuki_: to get help, you need to give TONS of detail.  State what you've tried, what hardware you have (nic, I mean), etc.
[02:04] <tanuki_> im using a speedstream dsl modem
[02:04] <delire> BlueHeron: a stable package-management system is reliant on versioning. every package is tracked and relationships between versions of each are affirmed.
[02:05] <tanuki_> the only thing i have tried is changing teh hostname, with the hostname command, which did not work
[02:05] <delire> BlueHeron: ironically, this is one of the reasons Debian based OS's don't suck and run forever.
[02:05] <tanuki_> maybe i need to restart the dhcp client
[02:05] <tanuki_> ?
[02:05] <BlueHeron> delire: same problem
[02:05] <delire> BlueHeron: you did a full update and then attempted a purge or remove?
[02:06] <BlueHeron> delire: yep
[02:06] <BlueHeron> delire: i want to get rid of this program because it says it is using 500+MB of virual memory
[02:07] <BlueHeron> that sounds bad
[02:07] <delire> BlueHeron: it may be slightly more serious then.. i would say you'll have to 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' to bring all your packages in sync. do this, making sure all unauth repos are commented out and before saying 'Y' tell me whether it wants to uninstall a ton of stuff.
[02:07] <BlueHeron> k
[02:08] <delire> Debian based systems run super smoothly if you stick with the authorized repos.. i reckon if you're after some fancy software outside of an Ubuntu repo, you should compile it yourself..
[02:09] <delire> BlueHeron: at least then it's in /usr/local/ and you can just nuke the directory when you're sick of it.
[02:09] <BlueHeron> i do compile most stuff
[02:09] <_jason> I am getting the following in dmesg when I put a dvd in my drive: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11280 .  What would cause this and is there anything I can do?  I should mention that I have always had problems with this drive even in windows but the thing is out of warranty now...  It will work find and load the dvd if I reboot a random amount of times and try again.
[02:09] <BlueHeron> i never installed this gamin thing
[02:09] <NoOnEx> will a "sudo apt-get remove kde" remove all of the kde dependencies, or just the dummy main package?
[02:10] <cjones> how would you de a linux ipconfig /renew
[02:10] <cjones> ?
[02:10] <_jason> NoOnEx: just the dummy
[02:10] <delire> BlueHeron: where did it come from?
[02:10] <BlueHeron> delire: i wish i knew so i could show up with a large gun
[02:10] <delire> BlueHeron: hehe i see..
[02:10] <NoOnEx> cjones: i use ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0     but i'm sure there's a better way
[02:10] <whyami> cjones I always do sudo ifdown <interface> && sudo ifup <interface> but there is probably a better way.
[02:10] <arrick> _jason, the message you gave tells me you have a bad dvd, however if it works once in a while maybe the drive has different drivers that update the firmware
[02:10] <cjones> is that in term
[02:10] <BlueHeron> delire: it's website says it's a file monitoring program
[02:10] <cjones> ?
[02:10] <NoOnEx> _jason: is there a way to get rid of them all short of writing it all down?
[02:11] <cjones> noonex is that in the term ?
[02:11] <delire> BlueHeron: hmm.. a bit suspicious. anyone else got access to that box?
[02:11] <whyami> cjones: yes
[02:11] <NoOnEx> cjones: yes
[02:11] <cjones> do you have to be root ?
[02:11] <_jason> NoOnEx: the proper way is apprently to use deborphan.  I just remove the libqt3-mt package and that will take all of kde with it
[02:11] <BlueHeron> delire: nope
[02:11] <delire> BlueHeron: could be used as part of an intrusion detection system i guess.
[02:11] <whyami> cjones: yes
[02:11] <whyami> cjones: (or use sudo of course).
[02:12] <_jason> arrick: when you say bad dvd do you mean the drive or the disc?
[02:12] <arrick> the disc
[02:12] <delire> BlueHeron: i wonder if it's actually considered to be a base package...
[02:12] <NoOnEx> _jason: does that remove all of qt also?    sorry for the round about questioning, i want to try kde, but want to be shure i can get rid of the 640 extra mb if i don't like it
[02:12] <_jason> arrick: yeah I've tried a few dvd's even ones that I have only played like twice and no are fine.  It's just a crummy drive, I was hoping I could do something other than reboot and hope it works next time
[02:13] <BlueHeron> delire: might be
[02:13] <delire> BlueHeron: i have gamin installed here btw.. i think it's part of the base install for Ubuntu (though i'm on debian).
[02:13] <_jason> NoOnEx: if you install kubuntu-desktop using aptitude, a 'sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop' will remove all the deps it installed with it
[02:13] <arrick> _jason have you checked under the manufaturers site and seen if there is a firmware update?
[02:13] <NoOnEx> _jason: i'm on dapper, i dont' think i have aptitude
[02:13] <arrick> you might have to flash it under the windows interface though _jason
[02:13] <delire> BlueHeron: you may have found a bug with Gamin on your box.. and in fact maybe it's very unwise to remove it.
[02:13] <_jason> arrick: I checked dell's site, but not the manufacturers.  I am going to do that now
[02:14] <arrick> what kind of drive is it?
[02:14] <_jason> NoOnEx: try 'aptitude moo'
[02:14] <delire> BlueHeron: i see about 7 packages to be removed if i try to purge it here.
[02:14] <BlueHeron> delire: okay
[02:14] <delire> BlueHeron: but i don't run Gnome...
[02:14] <cjones> it wont come up if i rebooot?
[02:14] <NoOnEx> _jason: aparently i do have it, and there are no easter eggs in it
[02:14] <_jason> NoOnEx: try 'apt-get moo' to understand the reference :)
[02:14] <delire> BlueHeron: tell me about this system memory hogging. how did you discover it?
[02:14] <BlueHeron> can anyone help me with tis
[02:14] <BlueHeron> http://pastebin.com/635048
[02:15] <BlueHeron> delire: my computer has been running slow, so i looked in system monitor in gnome
[02:15] <_jason> NoOnEx: just install kde with 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop' and then you cna easily remove it with 'sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop'
[02:15] <NoOnEx> _jason: haha, thats a great easter egg, and thanks for the help!
[02:16] <_jason> arrick: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-C2612
[02:16] <arrick> ok we'll both look
[02:16] <delire> BlueHeron: i think you have a memory leak.. i'd tell the people about it in #ubuntu-devel
[02:16] <cjones> nevermind i found it in system network
[02:17] <cjones> does anyone know if this supports usb wifi?
[02:17] <delire> BlueHeron: have you got anything constantly using or modifying a directory?
[02:17] <BlueHeron> delire: dunno.
[02:17] <delire> BlueHeron: tell ppl about it in the dev channel. this shouldn't be happening.
[02:17] <BlueHeron> k
[02:17] <arrick> _jason, check this out http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/103810
[02:18] <delire> BlueHeron: tell them that gamin is using 500mb of system memory, that system-monitor tells you so.
[02:18] <skorm> me again, lol
[02:18] <tanuki_> can someone tell me why when i change my hostname using the hostname command the hostname does not change? do i need to restart my dhcp client?
[02:18] <skorm> i using xubuntu, and ive installed samba, how do i mount a network share>
[02:19] <_jason> tanuki_: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts if you want it to be permanent
[02:19] <tanuki_> thank you
[02:19] <pastryness> whats a windows share browser for gnome?
[02:19] <pastryness> i mean the name of an app please
[02:20] <BlueHeron> delire: noone is home
[02:20] <deefzi> is it possible to rewind/forward videos with mplayer if they're not fully downloaded
[02:20] <skorm> naturils does it
[02:20] <delire> BlueHeron: they are, just coding. have to be a bit patient. someone will get back.
[02:20] <deefzi> (they aren't corrupted to play but they're incomplete. whatever)
[02:21] <skorm> pastryness,  naturilis or w/e that comes with ubuntu
[02:22] <fuzzymonster> help please, I have a question regarding unrar(ing) files, do I only unrar the first of the multipart files?
[02:22] <skorm> so how do i mount a windows share? i got samba
[02:23] <Bambino> Hi again guys, I did as suggested, sudo apt-get install build-essential worked fine, what did it do now again?
[02:23] <deefzi> oh, forceidx. thank you
[02:23] <Bambino> however, for the codecs, sudo apt-get install w32codecs, did not work it could not find it
[02:23] <gnomefreak> Bambino: build-essential is a package of build/compiling tools
[02:23] <_jason> !w32codecs
[02:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:23] <cjones> does ony one know how to use a usb wifi on a ubuntu laptop
[02:24] <alpha255> aren't there some open source ones like ogg is for music?
[02:24] <alpha255> something wiht an in it
[02:24] <alpha255> with
[02:24] <arrick> _jason, according to what I read in that last page, you got a crappy drive, and are not going to get it to run right at all times period
[02:24] <troytroy> hi how do i download a file using curl
[02:25] <arrick> !wifi
[02:25] <ubotu> methinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:25] <arrick> cjones^^
[02:25] <cjones> thanks
[02:25] <axisys> my samsumg camcorder is working... eeehhaaa
[02:25] <_jason> arrick: yeah, that's what I have read on the dell forums in the past.  But the fact that rebooting fixes it sometimes is annoying
[02:25] <arrick> np :-)
[02:25] <alpha255> trytroy: why not use wget?
[02:25] <axisys> i am uploading all the pics and videos
[02:25] <cjones> no does anyone know of a real good cdriper? opensource and free
[02:25] <_jason> arrick: thanks for the help
[02:25] <alpha255> cjones: soundjuicer?
[02:25] <troytroy> wget not installed
[02:25] <Bambino> so guys, how do i gret, "Make, Gnu , Install" ? I need those to make my wireless broadband work
[02:25] <IdleOne> gnomebacker
[02:26] <troytroy> have curl installed
[02:26] <IdleOne> k3b
[02:26] <alpha255> trytroy: ahh
[02:26] <arrick> _jason, yeah rebooting can actually reset the drivers on boot, that is why it sometimes works
[02:26] <gnomefreak> troytroy: its installed by default
[02:26] <arrick> brb
[02:26] <troytroy> so how do i use wget then
[02:26] <cafuego_> wget <url>
[02:26] <gnomefreak> troytroy: wget <url>
[02:26] <BlueHeron> delire: i figured out the problem it has to do with amarok
[02:26] <cafuego_> the manpage is fairly clear
[02:26] <BlueHeron> delire: i think it uses gam_server
[02:26] <Viking667> or "curl <url" if you have that
[02:27] <cjones> i am useing soundjouicer but i want to have it in mp3 and not ogg?
[02:27] <alpha255> gnomefreak: me too... I think anaconda uses in during network installs though
[02:28] <cjones> and its stuck on 2.5x
[02:28] <delire> BlueHeron: interesting...
[02:28] <BlueHeron> delire: it does scan a dir to see if files are added/removed
[02:28] <delire> BlueHeron: i guess it might actually, given that amarok will want to watch a directory for file and subfolder modifications..
[02:28] <Bambino> !gnu
[02:28] <ubotu> from memory, gnu is gnu's not unix, see http://www.gnu.org
[02:28] <BlueHeron> delire: yep
[02:28] <delire> BlueHeron: precisely.. good debugging BlueHeron
[02:28] <BlueHeron> delire: i'm compiling the new amarok now
[02:28] <delire> BlueHeron: nice 1
[02:29] <Bambino> delire, I did the apt install essential built. Now I need "make, gnu and install" to.. where do I actually get them from?
[02:29] <BlueHeron> delire: it's done let's see if it works better ;-0
[02:29] <Bambino> I downloaded btw VLC media player for linux, i unpacked it, but there is no exe file to run the software.. How come? :P
[02:29] <delire> Bambino: they are all scripts.. have you unpacked the archive you downloaded yet?
[02:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> has someone here ever configured tightVNC?
[02:29] <_jason> Bambino: vlc is in universe
[02:30] <delire> Bambino: i think VLC has a version for Ubuntu doesn't it?
[02:30] <Bambino> delire, I did not download any archive.. ? what you mean
[02:30] <delire> BlueHeron: ;) you're doing things right.. lemme know how it goes.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Bambino: build-essential has make in it
[02:30] <Bambino> Oh
[02:30] <delire> Bambino: you went to the VLC site and downloaded VLC for Linux?
[02:30] <Bambino> Yes
[02:30] <gnomefreak> !build-essential
[02:30] <ubotu> I guess build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[02:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell Bambino about universe
[02:30] <delire> Bambino: there are versions on that site for Ubuntu i believe.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> well that wasnt what i was looking for
[02:30] <_jason> Bambino: enable universe and then just search synaptic for vlc
[02:30] <alpha255> does apt keep the packages it downloads?
[02:31] <alpha255> in the /var/cache area?
[02:31] <_jason> alpha255: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:31] <Bambino> _jason, do i need internet for that? cause i dont have internet quiet yet
[02:31] <cjones> well i found out how to do mp3 in sound juicer does anyone know hot speed it up ?
[02:31] <alpha255> apt.conf didn't have anyplace to configure to save or not
[02:31] <_jason> Bambino: yeah, you need internet
[02:31] <carrarro> I just down loaded  qpspmanager-1.2.1.tar.gz but I don't know how to install it
[02:31] <delire> Bambino: nope, just Debian. grab that and well see if it installs. Ubuntu is Debian based..
[02:31] <alpha255> apt-get install qpspmanager
[02:32] <carrarro> okay let me try that.
[02:32] <delire> Bambino: right.. i can download it here and DCC it to you know. you can copy it onto a USB stick and install it. sounds a bit dodgy but it'll work.
[02:32] <alpha255> carrarro: that looks to be a gzip tar archive
[02:32] <_jason> Bambino, delire: well he can get the ubuntu deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:32] <carrarro> that is like a zip file, correct.
[02:32] <Bambino> Why does this sound chinese to me? :P
[02:33] <_jason> Bambino: which part sounds chinese, we'll try to translage :)
[02:33] <carrarro> so, is there a proble with the comand: apt-get install qpspmanager
[02:33] <delire> Bambino: well i guess you can just download it where you are and copy it onto the non-online box yes?
[02:33] <_jason> translate even
[02:33] <dabaR> ubotu: no, GNU is Not Unix. See http://www.gnu.org
[02:33] <ubotu> dabaR: okay
[02:33] <delire> Bambino: sorry, don't know your setup..
[02:33] <kbrooks> !GNU
[02:33] <ubotu> somebody said gnu was Not Unix. See http://www.gnu.org
[02:33] <Bambino> _jason, well i am not sure what you all are answering at :P
[02:33] <Bambino> delire, i downloaded it on my windows harddrive
[02:33] <alpha255> rms
[02:34] <kbrooks> ubotu, s/Not/GNU's Not Unix
[02:34] <ubotu> kbrooks: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:34] <Bambino> then i transfered it from my win hdd, to the linux one, whilst in linux
[02:34] <Bambino> and double cliked on it and packed it up
[02:34] <_jason> Bambino: I don't think I am quite sure either... packages.ubuntu.com is a place where you can get all the .deb's for the packages in ubuntu's repositories
[02:34] <pastryness> cant i choose to use kde desktop on ubuntu? i dont see where to choose it
[02:34] <delire> Bambino: right.. the windows HDD is on the same machine as Ubuntu it?
[02:34] <kbrooks> ubotu, GNU =~ s/Not/GNU's Not Unix/
[02:34] <ubotu> OK, kbrooks
[02:34] <Bambino> delire, that is correct, yes
[02:34] <gnomefreak> pastryness: install kubuntu-desktop than on the log in screen under sessions
[02:34] <delire> Bambino: do you have the open folder in front of you there?
[02:34] <_jason> kbrooks: now it's broken...
[02:34] <LathropWells> pastryness - try "sessions" in the login screen
[02:34] <dabaR> chill, Ill do it in private
[02:34] <molinero> !shipit
[02:34] <ubotu> For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[02:34] <Bambino> delire, open folder for vlc?
[02:35] <delire> Bambino: i still think the easiest way is to install it from a debian package.. but ok. let's do this.
[02:35] <pastryness> ok ty i'll try now
[02:35] <Bambino> *scratches my head* I asked about the broadcom as well, but are we talking about vlc or broadcom? :p
[02:35] <delire> Bambino: can you do this for me first though? 'apt-cache search vlc'
[02:36] <arrick> _jason, man, no matter how many of those crummy drives you buy, you still pay$100, they dont even have a discount after 50 of them
[02:36] <Bambino> delire, ok i will, restarting pc again
[02:36] <Bambino> brb
[02:36] <_jason> arrick: ha, yeah well I guess I'll try a reboot now
[02:36] <Bambino> restarting to log on ubuntu that is ;)
[02:36] <arrick> ok
[02:37] <TrustyChords> can anyone help me get wpa supplicant up and running (i'm pretty much a complete noob)
[02:37] <carrarro> I can't istall the application.
[02:38] <carrarro> I extracted the files to a folder in Desktop and tried to run the "apt-get install qpspmanager" command
[02:38] <IdleOne> carrarro, thats not how it works
[02:38] <pastryness> there is no kde choise when i click on 'sessions' in the login menu... just gnome and some failsafe choices.. how can i get kde?
[02:38] <carrarro> would you  please guide me to the way it works?
[02:38] <delire> carpediem: hmm.. you have it a bit the wrong way around. good start though.. did you download a debian package? eg ending with *.deb?
[02:39] <delire> carpediem: soz.. meant for carrarro
[02:39] <carrarro> nope
[02:39] <delire> carrarro: hmm.. you have it a bit the wrong way around. good start though.. did you download a debian package? eg ending with .deb?
[02:39] <delire> carrarro: what was the file name you downloaded?
[02:39] <delire> (.. the name of the file i should say)
[02:40] <carrarro> it was an independent platform file
[02:40] <arrick> pastryness, at login go to the terminal mode, then type start kde and try that
[02:40] <apoc_> hey everyone
[02:40] <folki> hi all...can anybody say me what should I do if I want install a software from bin file?
[02:40] <IdleOne> hey
[02:40] <luis_> HELP! i was installing packages of openoffice and now it says some are broken, but to remove them it says I should remove everything else from the system!!!
[02:40] <apoc_> how do i run eterm?
[02:40] <dyrne> folki: sudo sh filename.bin probably
[02:40] <carrarro> the file name is:  qpspmanager-1.2.1.tar.gz
[02:40] <delire> carrarro: so you've unpacked it.. and a folder has appeared.
[02:40] <IdleOne> luis_, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:41] <arrick> luis_, sounds like your system is playing an april fools joke on you
[02:41] <carrarro> yes
[02:41] <dyrne> folki: : or chmod +x filename.bin then ./filename.bin
[02:41] <delire> carrarro: do you have a terminal open? to compile it we
[02:41] <luis_> yes but it will remove lots of packages, including nautilus, gnome, etc etc...
[02:41] <carrarro> yes
[02:41] <delire> carrarro: .. we'll need one of those
[02:41] <delire> carrarro: ok.. where is the folder, on your desktop?
[02:41] <carrarro> yes
[02:42] <TrustyChords> hello all...
[02:42] <IdleOne> hello
[02:42] <apoc_> i installed eterm when using apt, but when i type eterm in the terminal, it doesnt work
[02:42] <TrustyChords> does anyone have experience setting up wpa_supplicant?
[02:42] <carrarro> welcome TrustyChords
[02:42] <TrustyChords> hey carrarro
[02:42] <IdleOne> apoc_, man eterm
[02:42] <arrick> TrustyChords, I can get you a link for it
[02:42] <delire> carrarro: ok note the name of the folder and let's cd into that folder 'cd ~/Desktop/nameofthefolder'
[02:42] <arrick> !wpa_supplicant
[02:42] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[02:42] <luis_> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[02:42] <luis_>   amarok-engines amarok-gstreamer bluez-pin bsh bug-buddy capplets-data
[02:42] <luis_>   contact-lookup-applet cpp cpp-4.0 eog evince evolution evolution-data-server
[02:42] <luis_>   evolution-exchange evolution-plugins evolution-webcal file-roller firefox
[02:42] <luis_>   firefox-gnome-support gcalctool gconf-editor gconf2 gdm gedit gij gij-4.0
[02:42] <luis_>   gnome-about gnome-app-install gnome-applets gnome-applets-data
[02:42] <cjones> my ati sound on my laptop doesent work and device manager says its unknowen hardweredoes anybody know how to make it work
[02:42] <luis_>   gnome-btdownload gnome-control-center gnome-cups-manager gnome-games
[02:42] <luis_>   gnome-media gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-nettool gnome-panel
[02:42] <arrick> ok, hag on
[02:42] <luis_>   gnome-panel-data gnome-pilot gnome-pilot-conduits gnome-session gnome-spell
[02:42] <dabaR> luis_: once you are shown which packages will be removed, copy and paste that to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and then after it is done fixing the package system, you can first install ubuntu-desktop, or xubuntu, edubutu, or whatever you have, and then go back to your pastebin, and reinstall any otgher packages you want back. it is necessary to remove all those to ifix the mess.
[02:42] <luis_>   gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal gnome-utils
[02:42] <arrick> hang
[02:42] <delire> luis_: don't flood mate
[02:42] <luis_>   gnome-volume-manager gnomemeeting gstreamer0.8-gnomevfs gstreamer0.8-lame
[02:42] <luis_>   gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-vorbis gthumb gtkhtml3.8
[02:42] <luis_>   gucharmap hal-device-manager hwdb-client java-gcj-compat libbonobo2-0
[02:42] <luis_>   libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libcamel1.2-6 libebook1.2-5 libecal1.2-3
[02:43] <luis_>   libedata-book1.2-2 libedata-cal1.2-1 libedataserver1.2-4
[02:43] <tanuki_> can someone tell me how to install an icon theme? when i drag the tarball into the theme window it says the file format is invallid
[02:43] <luis_>   libedataserverui1.2-6 libeel2-2 libegroupwise1.2-8 libexchange-storage1.2-0
[02:43] <luis_>   libgcj6 libgcj6-common libgconf2-4 libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome2-0
[02:43] <jadaz87> !pastebin
[02:43] <IdleOne> luis_, basta
[02:43] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[02:43] <folki> ok, thanks
[02:43] <luis_>   libgnome2-common libgnome2-perl libgnome2-vfs-perl libgnomecupsui1.0-1
[02:43] <delire> luis_: you're spamming the channel. don't do that.
[02:43] <luis_>   libgnomeui-0 libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnucrypto-java
[02:43] <carrarro> delire: I'm there
[02:43] <luis_>   libgnujaxp-java libgsf-1 libgstreamer-gconf0.8-0 libgtkhtml3.8-15
[02:43] <luis_>   libgucharmap4 libhsqldb-java libidl0 libjaxp1.2-java libjessie-java
[02:43] <luis_>   liblpint-bonobo0 libmetacity0 libnautilus-extension1 liborbit2
[02:43] <arrick> hey TrustyChords are you using breezy?
[02:43] <IdleOne> !ops
[02:43] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[02:43] <luis_>   libpanel-applet2-0 librsvg2-common libservlet2.3-java libtotem-plparser0
[02:43] <Gokz> hey guys i really need some help.
[02:43] <_jason> luis_: /part
[02:43] <luis_>   libxalan2-java libxerces2-java libxt-java metacity mozilla-mplayer nautilus
[02:43] <conn> hi, how do I reconfigure the system handling of time? I chose in the installer UTC time, but it keeps setting my time an hour ahead, how do I reconfigure on a running system?
[02:43] <luis_>   nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-sendto openoffice.org-base
[02:43] <luis_>   openoffice.org-java-common openoffice.org-writer python-gnome2
[02:43] <BlueHeron> ban
[02:43] <delire> carrarro: cool.. we'll wait for luis_ to stop messing up our screens..
[02:43] <jadaz87> !ops
[02:43] <Gokz> My Computer Running Ubuntu was shut down, and now in tools, networking I cant find my RT2500 card
[02:43] <Gokz> and so i cant connect to the interent
[02:43] <Gokz> does anyone know what to do
[02:43] <delire> carrarro: ok..
[02:43] <carrarro> okay...
[02:43] <arrick> Thanks guys
[02:43] <Madpilot> jadaz87, someone already used the "ops" tell - no need to experiment with it...
[02:44] <rob> oops..
[02:44] <delire> carrarro: now 'ls'.. do you see a file called INSTALL or README there? if so which?
[02:44] <TrustyChords> yes, arrick, i am
[02:44] <tkup> apoc_, it's case sensitive: Eterm not eterm
[02:44] <arrick> hey TrustyChords check this page out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90450
[02:44] <delire> carrarro: ls means 'list'
[02:44] <axisys> is there a tool i can use to test my webcam?
[02:44] <Gokz> Anyone?
[02:44] <TrustyChords> i've found the help page on the wiki....the problem is i have no experience with the terminal
[02:44] <cjones> how do you make a ati ixp 150 ac'97 audio controler work
[02:44] <jadaz87> i was not experimenting madpilot i could not see that someone already said it because of luis' spamming and thank you but ubotu told me
[02:44] <delire> axisys: gnomemeeting, camorama
[02:44] <apoc_> thanks
[02:44] <arrick> hey TrustyChords check this page out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90450
[02:45] <nalioth> luis_: please do not paste in here, use a pastebin instead
[02:45] <arrick> sorry didnt mean to post twice,
[02:45] <delire> axisys: many others. apt-cache search webcam
[02:45] <TrustyChords> thanks arrick, i will
[02:45] <luis_> what's the matter with you guys.. I'm desperate for help and you kick me off?!
[02:45] <TrustyChords> i'll see how far i can get
[02:45] <delire> luis_: you were flooding luis_
[02:45] <dabaR> !pastebin
[02:45] <axisys> delire: cool let me check it out
[02:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[02:45] <Madpilot> luis_, you got kicked for that gigantic flood
[02:45] <arrick> how do I change the color of the stuf I write in this window?
[02:45] <carrarro> delire: I see a README file, a qpspmanager.pro file, and a src directory
[02:45] <jadaz87> luis_ learn to use pastebin
[02:45] <dyrne> Gokz: simple reboot doesnt fix it?
[02:45] <arrick> I cna see the grey very well
[02:45] <Gokz> dyrne - no
[02:45] <_jason> arrick: what client are you using?
[02:45] <dabaR> luis_: once you are shown which packages will be removed, copy and paste that to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and then after it is done fixing the package system, you can first install ubuntu-desktop, or xubuntu, edubutu, or whatever you have, and then go back to your pastebin, and reinstall any otgher packages you want back. it is necessary to remove all those to ifix the mess.
[02:45] <IdleOne> !tell luis_ about paste
[02:45] <arrick> breezy xchat
[02:45] <Gokz> it was rebooted and thats why i cant find the card anymore in the networking pace
[02:45] <_jason> arrick: should be in prefs somewhere
[02:46] <delire> carrarro: first read the README file. look for any specific install instructions. if you like, copy the contents of that file to a pastebin so i can view it.
[02:46] <arrick> ok
[02:46] <Madpilot> arrick, Settings->Preferences - then Color - your posts use colors 30 & 31
[02:46] <Gokz> when it was freshly installed it worked fine, but then it was shutdown and rebooted and now i cant find it
[02:46] <delire> carrarro: reading README's first may save you a heap of time later.
[02:46] <axisys> delire: so many of them .. which is one has best review/
[02:46] <axisys> ?
[02:46] <carrarro> delire: pastebin? I don't know those
[02:46] <luis_> how will I install manually everything from the system?!
[02:46] <dyrne> Gokz: this is a reg ethernet card or wireless?
[02:47] <luis_> those must be hundreds of packages
[02:47] <dabaR> luis_: ubuntu-desktop will get most of the stuff for you.
[02:47] <Gokz> wireless it plugs into the pci slot
[02:47] <delire> axisys: i like ekiga/gnomemeeting myself. camorama is pretty good also, though basic.
[02:47] <IdleOne> luis_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <dabaR> luis_: also, paste the what you pasted ehre onto a pastebin so you can go back to it after.
[02:47] <luis_> oh right, I'll try that just now, thx
[02:47] <luis_> and sorry for the huge flood
[02:47] <Joetheodd> arrick, not here today either =(
[02:47] <axisys> delire: let me try gnomemeeting thanks.. never heard of the rest
[02:48] <IdleOne> luis_, dont do that now...do it after it removes everything
[02:48] <Joetheodd> arrick, well, let me look quick
[02:48] <dyrne> Gokz: if you lspci -V does it show it in output?
[02:48] <nalioth> dabaR: will this help luis_ ?  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html
[02:48] <delire> carrarro: ok.. this is a site for posting output and text for other people to view with you. go to this URL and post the contents of the README file, if it does in fact, contain installation instructions: http://pastebin.com/
[02:48] <dyrne> Gokz: lspci -v not V
[02:48] <Gokz> dyrne - okay ill try, is there anyway we can do a private chat?
[02:48] <delire> carrarro: send me the URL when you have pasted the file. learning to use a pastebin is a very cool thing to know. will help you alot later..
[02:48] <dabaR> nalioth: he broke his packages, so he will have to -f, which will remove ubuntu-desktop, and so on.
[02:48] <dyrne> Gokz: im about off work so maybe best in here
[02:49] <carrarro> Understood... thanks
[02:49] <troytroy> is it possible to resume downlaod using wget
[02:49] <troytroy> is it possible to resume downlaod using wget?
[02:49] <arrick> Joetheodd, I found out my wife didnt send it out, I found it in her van today and took to the post office sorry :-(:::::
[02:49] <axisys> delire: hmm it says no input video device found
[02:49] <arrick> she said she had sent it out monday morning Joetheodd
[02:50] <Gokz> -dyrne alright ill reply once the computer is ready, (its in another room). But if i do see something ra0 for instance what would i do?
[02:50] <luis_> that's very sad.. I was just trying to install the latest version of openoffice...
[02:50] <LathropWells> !wifi
[02:50] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:50] <dabaR> luis_: happens, no big deal, really.
[02:50] <arrick> but good evening Joetheodd
[02:50] <luis_> thx for the support anyway
[02:50] <troytroy> hi is it possible to resume downlaod using wget?
[02:50] <Bambino> delire, ok mate i am back
[02:50] <tkup> troytroy, yes
[02:50] <arrick> !wget
[02:50] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[02:50] <tanuki_> can someone tell me how to install a new icon theme?
[02:50] <delire> axisys: camera is plugged in and you know it works? choose video-for-linux device in preferences.. see if it's there.
[02:50] <IdleOne> troytroy, man wget might help you
[02:50] <arrick> !icon
[02:50] <ubotu> for icon see icons (and msg the bot i.e. >>/msg ubotu icon<< it does not spam the channel)
[02:50] <Bambino> delire, i did as you said, the apt-cache search thing, nothing happend. I just got a new line, empty
[02:51] <delire> Bambino: right.. have you enabled the multiverse repositories?
[02:51] <Gokz> -dyrne, are you there?
[02:51] <arrick> good to see you back _jason
[02:51] <carrarro> delire: the url is: http://pastebin.com/635088
[02:51] <Bambino> crap i forgot that :P
[02:51] <delire> carrarro: thanks
[02:51] <tkup> troytroy, 'man wget' will show you how to do that and more (--continue)
[02:51] <Bambino> How was it I did that?
[02:51] <Ratty_> hi
[02:52] <jadaz87> hello
[02:52] <dabaR> nalioth: and that could help, but there is other ways to do the same, I will try that command now...
[02:52] <delire> Bambino: ;) i think vlc may be in multiverse.. you perhaps can just apt-get install vlc
[02:52] <dyrne> Gokz: maybe nictools-pci or something depends on if it sees it
[02:52] <delire> Bambino: after an update of course..
[02:52] <troytroy> ok will do that later
[02:52] <axisys> delire: camera wors.. i tooks soo many movies and pics and uploaded to my laptop.. now i connected as PC cam mode
[02:52] <axisys> using usb
[02:52] <dyrne> Gokz: im sorry ill have to go
[02:52] <Ratty_> i've tried every flight of dapper, but none will work. i get the boot up logo thing, but where i should get GDM i just get a black screen and it appears frozen
[02:52] <delire> carrarro: cool, well done..
[02:52] <Ratty_> is this a known issue?
[02:52] <Bambino> delire, well i cant make an update without internet :P Ineed GNU and install, where do i get that from?
[02:52] <delire> carrarro: note it says "#
[02:52] <delire> First, be sure you have the QT3 Development files, then just type"
[02:52] <troytroy> need to pause download now and resume later am leaving office
[02:52] <axisys> delire: v4l and v4l2 none detects it
[02:52] <orbin> tanuki_: sys>prefs>theme>install.
[02:53] <_jason> arrick: argh, still not working... I think I'll try a few more reboots...
[02:53] <troytroy> please how do i pause and resume?
[02:53] <arrick> Ratty_, what are your system specs?
[02:53] <luis_> now it doesn't want to install ubuntu-desktop, it says there are unsolved dependencies
[02:53] <Madpilot> troytroy, in which application?
[02:53] <IdleOne> troytroy, type man wget
[02:53] <Ratty_> amd64, radeon x800
[02:53] <carrarro> delire: where does it say that?
[02:53] <orbin> troytroy: you're asking pretty generic questions.  you'd get a quicker answer by just googling
[02:53] <Ratty_> all previous versions work
[02:53] <delire> carrarro: we need the "qt development files". we have to find them first. 'apt-cache search libqt dev'
[02:53] <tkup> troytroy, if it's in the background, type 'fg' at the terminal where you launched it and then ctrl-z. that should stop it until you need it
[02:53] <Ratty_> just 6 that fails
[02:53] <delire> carrarro: the first line..
[02:54] <maskd> anyone here using initng?
[02:54] <IdleOne> luis_, paste the error to pastebin
[02:54] <carrarro> I already did the QT3 package thing.
[02:54] <troytroy> its in fg
[02:54] <IdleOne> luis_, then give us the url
[02:54] <luis_> ok, wait a moment
[02:54] <Bambino> Anyone know? I am installing broadcom and it said i need make, gnu and install. Appearently i have make. now i need gnu and install and i cant find a howto get them on the net :p
[02:54] <tkup> troytroy, otherwise you could just kill the wget session and then wget --continue URL
[02:54] <delire> carrarro: apt-cache search searches the repository for anything to do with dev (short for 'development') and libqt (short for quicktime)
[02:54] <Bambino> Plus, i searched for how to enable for mp3 and mpegs, doing this*
[02:54] <Bambino> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[02:54] <Bambino> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:54] <errpast41> hi, quick noobie question, is this the place
[02:54] <troytroy> tkup: and if i later want to resume
[02:55] <tkup> troytroy, then just ctrl-z to suspend it
[02:55] <mc|amb> can anyone give a few where i can get fonts that will work 100% in linux??
[02:55] <carrarro> delire: that part is done.
[02:55] <Bambino> but both times it tells me its not finding the package =(
[02:55] <troytroy> tkup: and if i later want to resume
[02:55] <IdleOne> Bambino, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:55] <delire> axisys: that's weird i'd try camorama and see how far you get..
[02:55] <Bambino> IdleOne, already done that
[02:55] <luis_> ok, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11282
[02:55] <Bambino> IdleOne, that gives me GNU and install aswell?
[02:55] <delire> Bambino: ahah.. the Ubuntu box isn't online at all..
[02:55] <tkup> troytroy, you just send a 'fg' or 'bg' at the terminal
[02:55] <Ratty_> amd64 and x86 versions both don't work
[02:55] <arrick> IdleOne, how about sources list?
[02:56] <Bambino> delire, In windows language please :P what does it mean ?
[02:56] <delire> carrarro: cool.. so you have the qt3 development libraries installed already?
[02:56] <tkup> troytroy, you can still "locate" that job using 'jobs'
[02:56] <troytroy> tkup: eg wget fg url
[02:56] <cafuego_> Bambino: You don't.
[02:56] <cafuego_> !bcm43xx
[02:56] <ubotu> Firmware packages for 4306 controllers are at http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[02:56] <carrarro> delire: yes.
[02:56] <holycow> what the hell is up with dapper icons? god the trashcan one sucks
[02:56] <holycow> heh
[02:56] <Joetheodd> Bambino: Translation - Ah, the ubuntu computer can't access the internet at all
[02:56] <delire> Bambino: are you in Ubuntu now, and are you online in Ubuntu.
[02:56] <IdleOne> luis_, wow
[02:56] <dabaR> cafuego_: :P for dapperinho?
[02:56] <luis_> yes, wow :P
[02:56] <Cooner750> How do I allow my Mac access to my Ubuntu box via SMB? It will connect from the Mac but says the login is incorrect
[02:56] <cafuego_> dabaR: yes
[02:56] <delire> carrarro: right.. so type 'qmake'
[02:57] <troytroy> tkup: eg "wget fg url" ?
[02:57] <delire> carrarro: (as per the REAMDE file)
[02:57] <dabaR> cafuego_: and it works on airport extremes?
[02:57] <cafuego_> dabaR: works fine on mine :-)
[02:57] <IdleOne> luis_, that looks like I would put in my install cd and start fresh
[02:57] <IdleOne> arrick, what about sources.list?
[02:57] <dabaR> cafuego_: :P thank you.
[02:57] <arrick> holycow, go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[02:57] <cafuego_> dabaR: I used my to leech data off Redhat at LinuxWorld last week ;-)
[02:57] <carrarro> delire: done.
[02:57] <holycow> arrick: shove it
[02:57] <Cjf> Hey, I have windows, and I am just wondering, is there anything that ubuntu will help me set up a Internet sharing connection thats better?
[02:57] <Joetheodd> attick: USPS = slower than pony express. It's still not here, rofl.
[02:57] <luis_> ahh but everything that was perfectly installed :'(
[02:57] <delire> carrarro any errors?
[02:57] <Bambino> delire, Mate, i am running ubuntu and windows on this laptop, a 64bit amd. I am not online at all because i only have access to wireless connection and it did not detect my wireless connectin and i need to install the wireless. to do so, i read a file and downloaded neccessary drives, how ever it said i need gnu ad install. and i dont know if i have them or not, nor how to get them. as this is the first time in my life i see linux
[02:58] <IdleOne> holycow, thats the official dapper help channel #ubuntu+1
[02:58] <holycow> IdleOne: ditto
[02:58] <Bambino> and if i need ubuntu, i need to reboot to go back to ubuntu ;)
[02:58] <IdleOne> lol
[02:58] <Joetheodd> arrick: USPS = slower than pony express. It's still not here, rofl.
[02:58] <iGotNoTime> Can anyone tell me what I edit to activate my USB wifi card to use as a Ra0 connection?
[02:58] <IdleOne> holycow, your gonna get plenty of help
[02:58] <IdleOne> holycow, good luck
[02:58] <tkup> troytroy, if you have suspended as I said earlier you don't have to run wget again. simply, send the command 'bg' or 'fg'
[02:58] <carrarro> delire: as my Unix instructor said "no news is good news," so good news.
[02:58] <arrick> somebody want to ban holycow fo rhis attitude?
[02:58] <holycow> *yawn*
[02:59] <Joetheodd> /msg sysadmin gline holycow please
[02:59] <dabaR> hehe. chill all.
[02:59] <troytroy> tkup: please give command syntax
[02:59] <Madpilot> holycow, cool it, all right?
[02:59] <arrick> nalioth, can you ban someone for a bit?
[02:59] <orbin> holycow: so change them
[02:59] <Cjf> will ubuntu help me set up a faster internet sharing connection than what windows can do?
[02:59] <Madpilot> arrick, you cool it to
[02:59] <delire> Bambino: ouch i see.. so you want to build vlc from sourcecode as a result of not being able to grab it from a repository.. i would focus on getting online first..
[02:59] <delire> carrarro: hehe
[02:59] <delire> carrarro: he's right ;)
[02:59] <IdleOne> arrick, cant ban every person who isnt as polite as we may like
[02:59] <tkup> troytroy, I'm sending you a snapshot
[02:59] <thenuke> arrick: ?? what's his attitude?
[02:59] <delire> carrarro: ok. now type make, to build the software.
[03:00] <Joetheodd> thenuke: <holycow> arrick, shove it
[03:00] <cafuego_> ubotu: No, bcm43xx is <reply> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[03:00] <ubotu> cafuego_: okay
[03:00] <delire> carrarro: sorry type 'make' (without apostrophe's of course).
[03:00] <carrarro> delire: error, command not found
[03:00] <hovinen> I'm having trouble with NetworkMagic: I have two laptops sitting side by side, both running Dapper Drake with all of the latest updates. I can use NetworkMagic to access our wireless network just fine on the left laptop, but, on the right laptop, the applet refuses to connect. The network is wireless and uses a WEP 128-bit hex key. It shows up on the list on both laptops. On the right laptop, the applet reports t
[03:00] <hovinen> hat there is no network connexion immediately after we enter the WEP key. There is no error message of any kind, even in the logs. We are certain that the WEP key is correct. Any ideas?
[03:00] <delire> Bambino: you have the VLC source code there>
[03:00] <Bambino> delire, thats what i am trying to focus on, but i asked a question about the broadcom 10 times but no answer on that, so i moved on on my "most important thing to install list" the question i had for my stupid broadcom that is not detected, is that it says i need GNU and install to be able to install the stuff I have. I downloaded a zip file and some other file too for it. HOWEVER, i have NO idea how to install the zip file, as it does not say in the instr
[03:00] <Joetheodd> carrano: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:00] <nalioth> arrick: what is up?
[03:00] <maxedout> Hello: I am running Ubuntu right now, I installed it today from the Installation CD. It says I have 7 GB Free in the Computer Menu, while my drive is 160.0GB. I had Windows XP insalled before this, and still have it installed. When I reboot I see the grub screen and it goes straight to Ubuntu. How can I Find out if I still have Windows XP Left on my machine, because I Know I installed Ubuntu as a partition. Thank yo
[03:01] <Cjf> can ubuntu run windows in the background like SuSe?
[03:01] <delire> carrarro: you typed: make
[03:01] <delire> ?
[03:01] <tkup> troytroy, you could just kill wget now. Later on, just run as you would normally but with the flag '--continue'
[03:01] <Joetheodd> nalioth: holycow seems to have something blunt stuck where the sun don't shine.
[03:01] <arrick> Joetheodd, I found out my wife didnt send it out, I found it in her van today and took to the post office sorry :-(:::::
[03:01] <carrarro> delire: yes, but showed me that error.
[03:01] <delire> carrarro: 'ls' and tell me if you see a file called "Makefile'
[03:01] <Joetheodd> arrick: LOL, np.
[03:01] <cafuego_> Cjf: of course; run the command a stick a '&' at the end.
[03:01] <dabaR> Joetheodd: we cleared that up already.
[03:01] <Joetheodd> dabaR: oh ok.
[03:01] <Cjf> ok
[03:02] <Cjf> How big is the ubuntu live cd?
[03:02] <Joetheodd> Cjf: 600MB-ish
[03:02] <nalioth> holycow: it is best to be friendly here (smiles make the world go round)
[03:02] <tkup> troytroy, how do you have wget running?
[03:02] <cafuego_> 120mm across
[03:02] <hovinen> Does anyone here know anything about NetworkMagic or NetworkManager?
[03:02] <holycow> lol
[03:02] <maxedout> hello, how i can i tell if i still have windows xp on my system? it does not show up in my grub screen
[03:02] <holycow> man some of you are pansies
[03:02] <harisund> what are you trying to do with it hovinen?
[03:02] <carrarro> delire: I can see it.
[03:02] <troytroy> tkup: "wget url"
[03:03] <hovinen> harisund, Please see my messages above.
[03:03] <delire> Bambino: right.. is the VLC archive unpacked onto your Desktop?
[03:03] <cafuego_> maxedout: run 'sudo fdisk -l' and see if it list an NTFS partition.
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> maxedout: See if a ntfs partition still exists.
[03:03] <holycow> maxedout: one way is to do fdisk -l
[03:03] <maxedout> ok
[03:03] <harisund> I am afraid I just joined now :-(
[03:03] <tkup> troytroy, go ahead and kill it now. when you want it to resume do 'wget --continue url'
[03:03] <delire> carrarro: i think you need to install some software for compiling software. you need the Gnu C Compiler etc.
[03:03] <molinero> !hoary
[03:03] <ubotu> hmm... hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[03:03] <maxedout> this is what i get :
[03:03] <hovinen> harisund, Okay, I will resend
[03:03] <cjones_> does any body know how to install sharaza
[03:03] <maxedout> Disk /dev/hda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[03:03] <maxedout> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[03:03] <maxedout> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:03] <maxedout>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:03] <maxedout> /dev/hda1           18242       19457     9767520    5  Extended
[03:03] <maxedout> /dev/hda5           18243       19457     9759487+  83  Linux
[03:03] <delire> carrarro: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:03] <hovinen> I'm having trouble with NetworkMagic: I have two laptops sitting side by side, both running Dapper Drake with all of the latest updates. I can use NetworkMagic to access our wireless network just fine on the left laptop, but, on the right laptop, the applet refuses to connect. The network is wireless and uses a WEP 128-bit hex key. It shows up on the list on both laptops.
[03:03] <tkup> troytroy, make sure you start in the same dir you had started it before so that wget can find that file
[03:04] <hovinen> On the right laptop, the applet reports that there is no network connexion immediately after we enter the WEP key. There is no error message of any kind, even in the logs. We are certain that the WEP key is correct. Any ideas?
[03:04] <cafuego_> maxedout: Please don't paste here.
[03:04] <holycow> maxedout: no posting please, use pastebin.com
[03:04] <maxedout> sorry
[03:04] <nalioth> maxedout: please dont paste in here
[03:04] <delire> maxedout: don't flood
[03:04] <Bambino> delire, see , no one answeres the broadcom question :P uhm, i put it in my home directory, where i see the "desctop" folder. i double clicked on it, and unpacked it into the home directory, now i have a BUNCH of files there, folders with i.e. deb , etc.. but how to actually install it i have nooo idea ;)
[03:04] <thenuke> maxedout: yes please. paste more.
[03:04] <cafuego_> maxedout: If that's all it lists; your WinXP is gone.
[03:04] <troytroy> tkup: thks very much
[03:04] <holycow> maxedout: based on that it looks like there is no windows parition on that drive
[03:04] <delire> maxedout: you risk being kicked out of necessity
[03:04] <harisund> hm... hovinen, if I were you I would try the command line for the same.
[03:04] <maxedout> i apologized
[03:04] <maxedout> you can stop
[03:04] <maxedout> thank you holycow
[03:04] <harisund> I too have a wireless connection with a WEP connection.
[03:04] <thenuke> maxedout: I complained.
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> hovinen: You should ask Dapper questions in #ubuntu+1, they'll be better suited to answer there.
[03:04] <maxedout> great
[03:05] <cafuego_> Bambino: See the wiki broadcom page for all the info you'll ever need.
[03:05] <troytroy> tkup: am currently downloading dapper 6.06
[03:05] <hovinen> tonyyarusso, Thanks.
[03:05] <delire> Bambino: so you have a file ending in .deb there? where did you get that from?
[03:05] <molinero> !xubuntu
[03:05] <ubotu> hmm... xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:05] <arrick> cjones, are you really trying to install shareza?
[03:05] <Joetheodd> !pastebin
[03:05] <ubotu> [pastebin]  Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[03:05] <hovinen> harisund, What command allows me to control NetworkManager?
[03:05] <Bambino> cafuego, i did, it said i need GNU and install thingy, where do i get that from?
[03:05] <delire> Bambino: you can install a debian package locally with 'sudo dpkg -i file.deb'
[03:05] <carrarro> delire: error, E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:05] <tkup> troytroy, I have made a screen shot of the whole process but you're not accepting my DCC's
[03:05] <delire> Bambino: or use a graphical front end.
[03:05] <thenuke> maxedout: doing stupid things and then saying "you dont have to complain!" is a very very stupid thing :D
[03:06] <maxedout> thenuke: i did not say you don't have to complain
[03:06] <delire> carrarro: did you use sudo, or is, in fact, another process using apt. is synaptic open?
[03:06] <cafuego_> Bambino: You shouldn't need to compile anything; either on Breezy or on Dapper.
[03:06] <maxedout> i said i said sorry,  i got the message the first time
[03:06] <maxedout> thats all..
[03:06] <troytroy> tkup: think its my setting in the xirc
[03:06] <tkup> ah
[03:06] <thenuke> maxedout: uff, U did say it anyway
[03:06] <troytroy> tkup: hold let me fix it
[03:06] <delire> cafuego_: he's not online so can't install VLC  - which he wants to install.
[03:06] <carrarro> delire: yes synaptic is open... woops!
[03:06] <delire> carrarro: ;)
[03:06] <Bambino> delire, there is no .deb file. only a debian folder
[03:06] <cafuego_> delire: I thought he wanted to use his broadcom...?
[03:07] <Bambino> Yes i do!
[03:07] <delire> cafuego_: he needs some help doing so, something i have no experience setting up sadly.
[03:07] <carrarro> delire: IT'S WORKING!
[03:07] <delire> Bambino: as i said, i think you should focus on getting online first.. as cafuego_ suggests, you shouldn't need to compile anything on breezy..
[03:07] <Bambino> cafuego, i read the manual fo how to intall it, it said i need make, GNU , Install and 2 files.
[03:07] <delire> carrarro: :)
[03:08] <Bambino> i downloaded the 2 files.
[03:08] <carrarro> delire: Thank you so much for all the walking me through, Very much appreciated.
[03:08] <cafuego_> Bambino: On breezy, the broadcom works with ndiswrapper. You need to obtain 2 files; and have ndiswrapper-utils installed.
[03:08] <troytroy> tkup: can u please send screenshot again
[03:08] <Bambino> delire, please excuse me, i am a expert in windows, but i have NO IDEA whatsoever about linux, trying to understand it as we speak, i installed it 3 hrs ago and thats the first thing ive ever done, seen, linux
[03:08] <carrarro> delire: It stoped doing things.
[03:08] <delire> Bambino: compiling software is always going to be tricky and should be avoided unless necessary.. but if you really want to.. then look for a README or INSTALL in the unpacked folders.
[03:09] <delire> carrarro: right.. any error output??
[03:09] <cafuego_> Bambino: Ok, you have bcmwl5.sys and .inf there?
[03:09] <holycow> Bambino: hehe neat
[03:09] <Bambino> cafuego_, yes thats what i downloaded, in a zip file, but how to unpack it, i have no idea.
[03:09] <cjones> yeah do you know a better place for free music?
[03:09] <holycow> Bambino: welcome to linux
[03:09] <carrarro> delire: nope.
[03:09] <cafuego_> Bambino: unzip <zipfile>
[03:09] <delire> Bambino: no need to be excused! you're doing super well. you've made a big jump and are in the deep end. good on you. learning stuff.
[03:09] <Bambino> holycow, you mean welcome to hell? :P
[03:09] <arrick> cjones, what country are you in?
[03:09] <delire> carrarro: cool :)
[03:10] <delire> carrarro: now 'sudo make install' to install the binary you've compiled.
[03:10] <IdleOne> Bambino, in a few days your going to be wondering why you never tried linux before :)
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> Bambino: Nah, you just need a moment to get used to it.  No hell.  Sounds like you're doing pretty well, so keep at it and you'll see.
[03:10] <carrarro> delire: let me try that.
[03:10] <troytroy> tkup: am new to linux environ
[03:10] <troytroy> tkup: try to accept and get told failed
[03:11] <carrarro> delire: make: *** No rule to make target `isnstall'.  Stop.
[03:11] <tkup> troytroy, it could be a firewall issue too
[03:11] <Skinux> Bambino: The wireless stuff is the worst ... mostly down hill from there
[03:11] <delire> carrarro: typo?
[03:11] <delire> carrarro: ;)
[03:11] <cafuego_> carrarro: 'install', not 'isnstall'
[03:11] <troytroy> tkup: on my system or router:
[03:11] <Bambino> heh well at least linux guys seems nice :P
[03:11] <delire> Skinux: aww it's not so bad. easy on a Intel Centrino  and (errm) around half the prism54 chipsets..
[03:11] <carrarro> delire: nothig scapes you man... ; )
[03:12] <Zakoota> man I think ubutnu sounds cooler than ubuntu
[03:12] <Zakoota> but thas just me :)
[03:12] <delire> carrarro: hehe ok
[03:12] <Bambino> cafuego, this is what its says on the installation file, You will need a C compiler, some basic development utilities (GNU make, install), and the kernel headers installed. i dont know if i have those stuf its asking me about
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> Skinux: My wireless worked ootb :)
[03:12] <holycow> Bambino: the first thing that hoses most windows users is the sheer quantity of freedom and choice, on windows one never compiles, on linux you have the option ...
[03:12] <holycow> Bambino: the biggest trick is taking the time to understand the full spectrum of all the choices available, then categorizing your knowledge
[03:13] <carrarro> dilire: things are happening.
[03:13] <holycow> Bambino: as they said, generally you should look for precompiled packages for your particular distro, compiling is something doned either by programmers, system admins or if no package exists already
[03:13] <cafuego_> Bambino: That's fine; the docs you're using are _not_ correct for Ubuntu. All you need is the inf and sys files, as well as precompiled packages.
[03:13] <delire> tonyyarusso: me too (even on a mac)..
[03:13] <Skinux> delire: it has gotten better since Warty, I must say. Alot of the problems are just plain silly, vendors have v1 and v2 cards. Tracking down the correct drivers is annoying.
[03:13] <cafuego_> Skinux: The biggest PITA (broadcom) is supported (fairly well) in the next Ubuntu release.
[03:13] <harisund> I agree, within DLink DWL 650, there are around 3 versions, with different drivers for each
[03:13] <delire> Skinux: the problem's at the vendor end for sure.. if they opened their driver source we'd be laughing..
[03:14] <delire> Skinux: you can always wait around for Dapper.. things are looking up for your chipset.
[03:14] <harisund> I am told the Broadcomm drivers have been reverse engineered, and that ndiswrapper wouldn't be needed anymore
[03:14] <Bambino> cafuego, hmm.. so what should I do then?
[03:14] <carrarro> delire: is there any chance to move all this files and directories to a safer place than my Desktop?
[03:14] <cafuego_> harisund: That's correct.
[03:14] <ralpho> I worked at dlink
[03:14] <ralpho> the engineers are good
[03:14] <harisund> ralpho, the support is quite good under Windows, yes.
[03:14] <ralpho> support people sux
[03:14] <cafuego_> Bambino: If you unzipped the file, you should now be able to run 'sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf'
[03:14] <delire> carrarro: sure.. i like to have a 'working' or when programming 'devel' directory in  /home/me (~/)
[03:15] <Skinux> delire: I heard that will be nice. I did an IBM Thinkpad with a PCMCIA card (Breezy) and it was a dream. The real cheap USB ones are the ones that are tough. I use them, well because, I am cheap
[03:15] <harisund> No hassles, I have a router and a wireless card too..
[03:15] <troytroy> tkup: thks
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> Skinux: IBM here too.
[03:15] <holycow> Bambino: no, welcome to freedom.  in windows you are encouraged to remain a moron.  on linux you are encouraged to stretch your wings and learn new things.  the latter is harder than the former, primarily because windows users expect linux to be windows (something it will never be)
[03:15] <alpha255> \q
[03:15] <alpha255> oops sorry
[03:15] <delire> carrarro: use nautilus, or the command 'mv' to relocate it..
[03:15] <alpha255> nice chatting
[03:15] <troytroy> tkup: are u an EE student of u texas
[03:15] <tanuki_> can someone tell me how to mount my windows partitions and include them on the desktop?
[03:15] <tkup> troytroy, I was
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell tanuki_ about mountwindows
[03:15] <delire> Skinux: hmm... my next lappie will be a thinkpad..
[03:16] <Bambino> holycow, well you are right I guess, but the thing is, just the installation is taking hours, imagine later , jesus :P
[03:16] <gen> im on a thinkpad
[03:16] <delire> gen: bastardos
[03:16] <ralpho> if you call and sak how to open a port to play a game I bet only 2 in 10 could tell you how
[03:16] <troytroy> tkup: ok
[03:16] <delire> gen: my lappie is lovely.. but not lovely enough!
[03:16] <Bambino> cafuego, ok but where should i unzip the file to be able to run that command?
[03:16] <harisund> people, which brand of laptops do you think are supported best under Linux? I mean drivers for wireless, audio/video and so on..
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> delire: They're quite nice!  (Only hardware not ootb was smartmodem, works w/ Conexant driver)
[03:16] <gen> a 5 yr old one, but still :)
[03:16] <delire> tonyyarusso: hmm
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> harisund: ThinkPad here, see ^^.
[03:16] <delire> i'd love a t42p
[03:16] <holycow> tanuki_: all you need to do is: a) create folder on desktop for mounting the partition and b) find your win partitions with sudo fdisk -l, and c) add proper lines to /etc/fstab and mount them .
[03:17] <cafuego_> Bambino: anywhere, just make sure you run that command in the directory where the unzipped files end up.
[03:17] <delire> carrarro: does the software run?
[03:17] <_jason> harisund: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[03:17] <holycow> tanuki_: to find the proper line for your /etc/fstab file, you need to knowyour windows partition file system type, then google fstab and mounting windows to find the right syntax
[03:17] <ralpho> did i tellyou guys flight 6 mounts my sd card :)
[03:17] <Bambino> oh ok
[03:17] <delire> carrarro: hey and good job. compiling software aint for wimps..
[03:17] <harisund> uh thanks _jason, I didn't know the wiki had a compatibility list .... I knew about individual laptop pages..
[03:18] <cafuego_> Bambino: When you run it, all required files are copied into the system settings dir.
[03:18] <tanuki_> can someone tell me why i get the following error when i try to unmount my ipod? eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[03:18] <Bambino> cafuego, ok and after that?
[03:18] <holycow> Bambino: only because you don't know, or don't have the proper mental schema to have it installed quickly.  for me linux is super easy for most things, there are very few situations where windowsinstalls are faster or simpler.  that being the case, you could be trying something rather strange.  what are you installing?
[03:18] <cafuego_> tanuki_: Running breezy?
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> ralpho: Can you give more specifics?  I'm wondering if a friends multi-card-reader on an HP Pavillion.
[03:18] <tanuki_> cafuego: yes i believe so
[03:18] <delire> tanuki_: what about 'sudo umount -l /mountpoint'?
[03:18] <cafuego_> Bambino: After that, run 'sudo ndiswrapper -m'
[03:19] <cafuego_> tanuki_: Then it happens due to non-100% support. Just unplug it.
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> ralpho: *would work
[03:19] <carrarro> delire: things are done. Any further action needed>
[03:19] <tanuki_> cafuego, thank you
[03:19] <Bambino> holycow, my broadcom to get a internet connection..
[03:19] <ralpho> I have pavillion zv 6000
[03:19] <digitalquirk> Is anyone familiar with running Ubuntu on a Toshiba Satellite?  I can't seem to get the sound to work.
[03:19] <ralpho> its 64 bit
[03:19] <delire> carrarro: none
[03:19] <ralpho> but i am using 386
[03:19] <Bambino> alright, i am restarting to log on ubuntu. brb after i tried suggested stuff
[03:20] <harisund> I hve a compaq presario ralpho, I think quite similar in specs atleast to your machine.
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> ralpho: So it's still the multiple type card reader from TI probably?
[03:20] <holycow> Bambino: depending on which broadcom chip, it should work automatically.  you may wish to wait a month or so for dapper, it has broadcom built in for you ... but follow their instructions, they are good
[03:20] <cjones> arric usa why ?
[03:20] <harisund> 58885
[03:20] <carrarro> delire: Thanks again, but... now what do I do>
[03:20] <ralpho> did a expert install mounted nffs partition as /windows
[03:20] <ralpho> ntfs
[03:20] <delire> carrarro: hey i don't even know what you were compiling ;)
[03:20] <carrarro> jajajajaja
[03:20] <ralpho> and in media /sdmmc there it was
[03:21] <holycow> >_>
[03:21] <IdleOne> perceptive :P
[03:21] <harisund> Are you running dapper ralpho?
[03:21] <carrarro> delire: okay... I'll work my way around now. Thank you.
[03:21] <delire> holycow: possibly right ;)
[03:21] <ralpho> dapper flight 6
[03:21] <delire> carrarro: muy bien
[03:21] <molinero> !dapper
[03:21] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:21] <harisund> flight 6 awesome,can't wait for it. Looks like it will support HP / Compaq laptops ootb, something even Windows doesn't do.
[03:22] <tanuki_> is nicotine a safe program to use?
[03:22] <delire> tanuki_: yes i love it.
[03:22] <tanuki_> but is it safe
[03:22] <ralpho> even my broadcom wifi worked out of the box
[03:22] <ralpho> no ndiswrapper
[03:22] <delire> tanuki_: smoking it is somewhat dangerous however.
[03:22] <harisund> what about the resolutin?
[03:22] <holycow> ralpho: i know, it surprised me too
[03:22] <harisund> It's a widescreen, right?
[03:22] <holycow> dapper is looking really great
[03:22] <harisund> 1280x768?
[03:23] <ralpho> this is the best distro ever
[03:23] <IdleOne> Amen!
[03:23] <delire> tanuki_: i've looked at it's performance with netstat and a few other utils. it looks safe to me.
[03:23] <harisund> ralpho, what X.org drivers are you using?
[03:23] <holycow> ralpho: so far so good, i'm happy about them wanting to be lsb compliant too, i think thats great
[03:23] <orbin> harisund: really?  this compaq is working ok
[03:23] <ralpho> that is not worked out yet but i have a ati 200 m and i kno i can make it work
[03:24] <ralpho> I did it in gentoo befor
[03:24] <harisund> Is that ATI Radeon Xpress 200m?
[03:24] <ralpho> yes
[03:24] <delire> hehe
[03:24] <arrick> evening orbin
[03:24] <harisund> Yeah, I have the same card on my compaq presario, and I am using fglrx.
[03:24] <orbin> arrick: afternoon
[03:24] <harisund> Get an ok frame rate, don't know if that is what is the best for my card.
[03:24] <delire> harisund: what framerate are you getting btw with glxgears?
[03:24] <ralpho> fglrx is there a how too
[03:25] <harisund> delire: I am running Breezy with fglrx drivers. It is 1280x768. With glxgears I get a mere 800fps.
[03:25] <delire> ralpho: yes.. BinaryDriverHowto
[03:25] <ralpho> for gentoo i had found one
[03:25] <dillama> Question: If I installed Flight 5, what's the best way to upgrade to the latest and greatest? Should I upgrade with Flight 6 or should I just keep packages up to date?
[03:25] <holycow> ralpho: on wiki.ubuntulinux.org ... yes
[03:25] <harisund> however, if the gears window is hidden, the fps goes up to around 1900..
[03:25] <ralpho> thanks
[03:25] <delire> harisund: could be better i suppose, but not bad..
[03:25] <holycow> ralpho: most questions are actually answered there, this channels wiki info is really really great
[03:25] <holycow> this distros wiki anyway
[03:25] <delire> ralpho: it's in the wiki. follow it exactly..
[03:25] <IdleOne> dillama, dist-upgrade doesnt work?
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> dillama: apt-get upgrade will do the trick.  The Flights are simply snapshots of current package status, so you will achieve the same thing by keeping the updated.
[03:25] <ralpho> will do
[03:25] <harisund> Yep delire, as far as I am concerned, that is sufficient for me.
[03:25] <orbin> ubotu: tell ralpho about ati
[03:25] <tanuki_> is it possible to use itunes under wine?
[03:26] <delire> harisund: enough for quake3 and blender ;)
[03:26] <dillama> Thanks!
[03:26] <ralpho> thanks
[03:26] <harisund> Oh. Nice to know that, unfortunately I am not a gamer, nor a computer graphics person..
[03:26] <orbin> ralpho: you can't use the repos driver b/c the version is too old.  use the one off ati.com or the one in seveas' repos if your on a 32bit sys.
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: If not, you can use something else instead; here...
[03:26] <delire> harisund: in that case you are wealthy with frames.
[03:27] <IdleOne> tanuki_, try SharpMusique
[03:27] <harisund> Yes..Earlier, my fix was to add the "Option noaccel: true" to the xorg.conf file.
[03:27] <harisund> but that was real bad. Then I came to know about the actual fglrx driver, and it is much better..
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: Wait a minute, I think that factoid is incorrect.  Google for SharpMusique and they have a Breezy .deb there.  I'll get on updating the bot.
[03:27] <tanuki_> k, thanks
[03:27] <delire> tonyyarusso: IdleOne i don't own an iPod, but how does that compare to gtkpod?
[03:27] <_jason> arrick: I just spent the last 30 minutes opening and closing my dvd drive and it just loaded now...
[03:27] <ralpho> whats funny is it works out of the box on debian
[03:28] <IdleOne> !tell delire about sharpmusique
[03:28] <orbin> harisund: does suspend work for you?
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> delire: I've never used gtkpod.  SM is just an interface to the iTunes store as far as I've bothered to experience, which isn't much.
[03:28] <harisund> I believe it works, but doesn't resume ;-) Technically therefore, the answer is no
[03:28] <delire> tonyyarusso: IdleOne: family members run Ubuntu and own iPods so interested to know.
[03:28] <arrick> _jason, thats funny, at least it works once in a while
[03:28] <IdleOne> delire, I dont use it but it does everything itunes does apperently
[03:29] <tanuki_> is it possible to make my trash icon appear on the desktop?
[03:29] <kingspawn> using itunes is like using quicktime and realmedia: it must never - ever - be done
[03:29] <delire> tonyyarusso: IdleOne: cheers both.
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> delire: Ah.  Well, you might just have to try it and check things out for yourself, since I don't have an iPod to try for you with.
[03:29] <tanuki_> tonyyarusso, how do i install the deb package? im new.
[03:29] <_jason> arrick: this thing is near the end of its life...
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell tanuki_ about deb
[03:29] <orbin> harisund: apparently the problem was fixed w/ the later driver.  what version of fglrx are you running?
[03:29] <holycow> tanuki_: yes, open up gconf editor, its in there somewhere.  google up gconf editor trashcan on desktop ...
[03:29] <holycow> tanuki_: oh even better, open up gconf editor and search for trash can ... you will find the check bo
[03:29] <holycow> x
[03:29] <arrick> yeah I know
[03:30] <harisund> oh. I am sorry, I am not sure (I am not on that laptop right now and I don't have it with me :0( )
[03:30] <harisund> Anyway orbin, what version am I supposed to be running?
[03:30] <delire> hah DVDJon wrote SharpMusique.. fantastic..
[03:30] <orbin> harisund: the latest probably :P
[03:30] <harisund> uh.. thanks for the suggestion, and no I doubt I have the latest.
[03:30] <orbin> harisund: just asking b/c i get the same problem (won't wake up from suspend).  i'm not using the latest driver though
[03:31] <tanuki_> tonyyarusso, i enabled it but it still does not appear on the desktop
[03:31] <harisund> Uh ok. I will be documenting my experiences with the presario v2000z on the ubuntu wiki soon..
[03:31] <holycow> tanuki_: restart nautilus maybe?
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: Right-click and add a Launcher with sharpmusique as the command.
[03:31] <delire> harisund: nice one..
[03:32] <tanuki_> sharpmusique?
[03:32] <tanuki_> or trashcan
[03:32] <orbin> anyway, question: where can we see changelogs?  i'd like to know what package upgrades actually fix
[03:32] <delire> tanuki_: check out gtkpod also.. though no interface to the iTunes music store..
[03:33] <tanuki_> holycow, how do i restart nautilus?
[03:33] <harisund> thanks delire and orbin.. I will be leaving now Bye !
[03:33] <harisund> quit Thanks again !
[03:33] <AngryElf> what's a quick way to find out of a program is running?
[03:34] <holycow> tanuki_: in gnome terminal type in sudo killall nautilus
[03:34] <orbin> AngryElf: ps | aux grep <program>
[03:34] <holycow> tanuki_: it will restart automatically, but imay have misread when you guys were chatting, so not sure if it will fix your issue
[03:34] <delire> orbin: this is normally done before packaging, further upstream.
[03:34] <tanuki_> im trying to put my trashcan on the desktop
[03:35] <tanuki_> i did it previously in gconf but i cannot find it now
[03:35] <molinero> !xgl
[03:35] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:35] <delire> orbin: changelogs are usually maintained by the developers, not so much the maintainers (though on occassion this is so).
[03:36] <orbin> delire: oh.  so where should i look for what was changed/fixed?
[03:36] <nickrud> orbin, each package has a dir, /usr/share/doc/<package> changelogs can be found there
[03:36] <th0un> hello all
[03:36] <carrarro> delire: I can see part of the application, but I think I'm going to review the process and maybe try again later.
[03:36] <tanuki_> can someone tell me how to put my trashcan on the desktop?
[03:36] <IamEthos> okay
[03:36] <orbin> nickrud: ah, yes. forgot about that. thankyou
[03:36] <carrarro> delire: Muchas gracias por la ayuda.
[03:36] <delire> carrarro: nada
[03:36] <IamEthos> so lmms has a binary for Ubuntu
[03:36] <IamEthos> but it's a .deb file
[03:36] <th0un> could someone step me through installing the kernal source for 2.6.12-10-386?
[03:36] <ortner> How do i mount a portable harddrive in linux/ubuntu?
[03:36] <IamEthos> wtf do I do with that?
[03:36] <ortner> So i can read it.
[03:37] <kingspawn> IamEthos: dpkg -i file.deb
[03:37] <IdleOne> IamEthos, dpkg -i file.deb
[03:37] <bigmoe> i have an internet connection via rj45 regular network i have configured the ips and everything but i could access the internet? i can ping myself but neither one on the network!! could someone tell me what the problem might be??
[03:37] <IamEthos> thanks guys
[03:37] <tanuki_> can someone give me an idea of what went wrong here while trying to install sharpmusique? http://pastebin.com/635143
[03:37] <molinero> !dpkg
[03:37] <kingspawn> hehe
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: I believe in gconf it's under Apps > Nautilus > something about show desktop trash
[03:37] <delire> orbin: i have never done this with ubuntu, but for many years i have gone to packages.debian.org to view changelogs often via lins therein.
[03:37] <sHaDe> n8 all
[03:37] <Bambino> cafuego, hey man am back, ok did everything until the soda ndiswrapper -m, now what? ;)
[03:37] <ralpho> I think I just changed to fglrx if my gears get 2000 i will be happy
[03:38] <tanuki_> tonyyarusso, thank you, that worked
[03:38] <th0un> could someone step me through installing the kernal source for 2.6.12-10-386?
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: For the dpkg errors, try manually installing those dependencies (with apt-get, aptitude, or Synaptic), the try the dpkg -i again.
[03:38] <orbin> delire: thankyou.  i'll look at pacakges.ubuntu.com too
[03:38] <tanuki_> tonyyarusso, what dependancies?
[03:39] <delire> orbin: no doubt there are also changelogs in many debs. check it out yep.
[03:39] <th0un> delire: is there a way with apt-get to install kernal sources?
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: Everything that it says "depends foo", "foo is not installed".
[03:39] <nick|here> ubuntu recognized my soundcard well, but i can't control volume.. gnome volume control tells me  No Sound Hardware/Device Found. :(
[03:39] <tanuki_> ok, thank you
[03:40] <orbin> th0un: search for linux-source.  you might just need the headers though rather than the full source
[03:41] <Bambino> when installing Ubuntu, i got the screen to choose which resolutions i want. Now i thought by pressing enter you choose the resolution, unfrotunetaly it did not. any way to get it to install so i could use it with 1280x800? because now when i do that, the screen gets kinda into two pieces, if anyone knows what i mean
[03:41] <delire> th0un: yes
[03:41] <th0un> delire: w00t, thanks!
[03:41] <delire> th0un: 'apt-cache search kernel source'
[03:42] <th0un> delire: ok
[03:42] <titanium_platypu> I can't get sound to work in some applications....I had this problem last time I installed Ubuntu, and I fixed it by following the directions at ubuntuguide.org for "how to get sound to work properly in Gnome".  This time, I followed the directions, and still don't get sound from a lot of programs :(
[03:42] <titanium_platypu> can anybody help me?
[03:42] <th0un> delire: hmm, I started apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 <-- its downloading a 40mb file, should i stop and issue that command?
[03:42] <IamEthos> delire: I tried installing LMMS and a lot of the files it needs are out of date
[03:43] <orbin> Bambino: what's the issue?  do you want to change the res of the installer or the res of gnome
[03:43] <IamEthos> is there an easy way to update all of them?
[03:43] <MysticJeff> I had 3 HDDs in the machine that I installed ubuntu on to. Previously, it had Xandros on it. The file systems are ext3. I seem to have some permissions on these disks that don't have an owner. The result of which is that I can't delete them or put new stuff into those folders using the GUI. Help! I'm a noob when it comes to command line stuff. I just need to either reset all permissions...
[03:43] <MysticJeff> ...throughout the drives to the current user or delete them completely so the drive is wide open (preferred). Any help is appreciated.
[03:43] <Bambino> orbin, whats gnome? No i wanna change the resolution of the interface, but when i do that, it gets split into 2 sreens
[03:43] <delire> orbin: hmm.. take a look at 'apt-listchanges'. install that if not installed already
[03:44] <orbin> Bambino: the interface of the installer?
[03:44] <delire> orbin: that will enable you to view changelogs before installing..
[03:44] <philips> k
[03:44] <bthornton> I'm trying to install a DEB file using 'gdebi' on my Turion64 system, and it's reporting "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'".  i386 Should run on x86_64, however, and the vendor doesn't distribute x86_64 binaries for this reason.  How can I install this DEB?
[03:44] <holycow> MysticJeff: sudo chown user.usergroup -R /some/device
[03:44] <delire> IamEthos: it installed here ok, but I am primarily on Debian pure.
[03:45] <holycow> MysticJeff: user.group of  course being your user and group, usually the same name
[03:45] <delire> IamEthos: there will no doubt be packages for Ubuntu soon, if not packaged already.
[03:45] <MysticJeff> thanks holycow... thanks; i don't know if i have a group set? LOL
[03:45] <Bambino> orbin, i already installed ubuntu, after you login, you know the screen there with the background, if i go for 1280 (which i can use with windows) then the screen gets divided almost, so if i click on system , it shows up on the right side awell.
[03:45] <IamEthos> also, what's this jackd thing all about?
[03:45] <IamEthos> I'm confused about that
[03:45] <delire> th0un: no, that sounds about right. the sources are kind of large..
[03:45] <holycow> MysticJeff: if your logged in as a user, by default you belong to a group, the group name is the same as the user name
[03:46] <bthornton> How do I install an 'i386' *.deb package on my x86_64 system?
[03:46] <t1nl0tus> exit
[03:46] <holycow> MysticJeff: so if your logged in as user1 the group will mostlikely be user1
[03:46] <delire> th0un: supporting jet aircraft, embedded devices, robots, phones.. oh and desktop computers ;)
[03:46] <orbin> delire: thanks.  will have a look at it
[03:46] <delire> orbin: np
[03:46] <MysticJeff> thx holy
[03:46] <th0un> delire: alright source said it is installed (seemed kind of too fast)
[03:46] <th0un> delire: haha, the support guru here
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> bthornton: I'm not sure if it's a gdebi specific problem or not.  Have you tried doing it cli yet too?
[03:47] <orbin> Bambino: so, gnome basically (ubuntu's desktop environment)
[03:47] <nickrud> bthornton, is that deb build for debian?
[03:47] <orbin> ubotu: tell Bambino about fixres
[03:47] <th0un> delire: I <3 robots - im a mentor in the FIRST robotics competition
[03:47] <IamEthos> I've heard people in here suggest that I install Linux on my Pocket PC
[03:47] <delire> th0un: now you will see a *.bz2 archive in /usr/src/
[03:47] <orbin> Bambino: have a look at the page ubotu sent you
[03:47] <IamEthos> has anyone seen this done on a Dell Axim?
[03:47] <tanuki_> sharpmusique does not work for me, it wont let me login with my existing apple account, anyone else have this problem?
[03:47] <delire> th0un: nice one ;) my sister is a robotic engineer..
[03:47] <bthornton> tonyyarusso: No, I simply clicked the file in Firefox and had it open it with the default action, which was to use this graphical installer.
[03:48] <th0un> delire: unpacking now - awesome, what company?
[03:48] <molinero> !netinstall
[03:48] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, molinero
[03:48] <delire> th0un: military mostly.
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> bthornton: Okay.
[03:48] <bthornton> nickrud: Yes, it says "For i386/AMD64 Debian GNU/Linux Sarge, Ubuntu 5.04/5.10".  I'm running Dapper, but I don't think that should cause this problem.
[03:48] <th0un> delire: ooooo < thats exciting!
[03:48] <delire> th0un: .. at times disturbing to be honest.
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> bthornton: Try what ubotu said and report back.
[03:49] <bthornton> m'kay
[03:49] <Dreamcatcher> Serpentine hangs when I try to burn a music cd.  Any thoughts?
[03:49] <nickrud> bthornton, hm, it might. But try installing it from the command line
[03:49] <delire> th0un: so, you need to unpack the bz2. cd into /usr/src
[03:49] <th0un> delire: okay I unpacked the bz2
[03:49] <delire> th0un: ls and you should see it there.
[03:49] <delire> th0un: cool..
[03:50] <IamEthos> what FTP clients work well for Linux?
[03:50] <IamEthos> I know it comes with one
[03:50] <th0un> delire: really? why disturbing?
[03:50] <delire> th0un: so you want to compile your own kernel.. for the machine you're running?
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> !ftp
[03:50] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[03:50] <IamEthos> but I prefer something that runs in one window
[03:50] <bthornton> dpkg sez: "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"
[03:50] <th0un> delire: nah, im trying to install ndiswrapper but its complaining about the sources not installed
[03:50] <bthornton> (duh, dpkg!)
[03:50] <delire> th0un: ahah right.. well then you don't need to do anymore. you might need the kernel-headers also..
[03:50] <bthornton> might this be Dapper-specific behavior?
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> bthornton: But you're assured it should work for both?  Maybe dpkg has a force option...
[03:51] <th0un> delire: how do I come about getting the kernel-headers? =-O
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> bthornton: You could find out in #ubuntu+1.
[03:51] <MysticJeff> thanks holycow that worked beautifully! :)
[03:51] <bthornton> Yeah, it says so right here: http://www.nomachine.com/download_product.php?Prod_Id=10
[03:51] <bthornton> will try; thanks
[03:52] <holycow> no worries
[03:52] <delire> th0un: apt-cache search kernel headers
[03:52] <delire> th0un: naturally grab the headers for your kernel version.
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> bthornton: dpkg --force-architecture
[03:53] <nickrud> bthornton, have you tried looking around their support database, maybe this has come up before
[03:53] <tkup> tanuki_, it looks like it's not possible. You can't add applets to the desktop but you can add them on the panel.
[03:53] <delire> th0un: i'm off.. tis late.
[03:53] <th0un> delire: hmm, there was no output for apt-cache search
[03:53] <delire> night all
[03:53] <th0un> delire: okay, goodnight
[03:54] <delire_zz> th0un: (try linux headers) night..
[03:54] <Dreamcatcher> Any suggestions for burning a cd?
[03:54] <chris_> k3b rulz even in gnome
[03:54] <nickrud> Dreamcatcher, k3b, gnomebaker
[03:55] <tkup> tanuki_, but you can do this from the command line and it'd be the same (you can drag and drop file you want to trash): ln ~/.Trash ~/Desktop/Trash
[03:55] <Dreamcatcher> Thank you!
[03:55] <tkup> tanuki_, rather ln -s ~/.Trash ~/Desktop/Trash
[03:55] <nickrud> tanuki_, in gconf-editor you can enable the trash on the desktop, a sec
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: You still stuck on getting the trash on the desktop?
[03:56] <nickrud> tanuki_, it's apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible
[03:56] <Sven_vB> re
[03:57] <Sven_vB> is there sth like kteatime for gnome?
[03:57] <dderr> I am trying to play an mp3 stream (somafm.com) in rythmbox, but it is not working, any suggestions?
[03:57] <dderr> end of stream error
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: On that same screen, the one for Documents visible, what is the Documents directory anyway?
[03:57] <chris_> installing lame might fix it ... maybe mpg321 (or mpg123) as well
[03:58] <orbin> Sven_vB: yeah, teatime
[03:58] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, ~/Documents I think
[03:58] <BuiSyPhong> Hi everybody
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: If such a thing existed, I take it.
[03:58] <dderr> chris_: thx
[03:58] <Sven_vB> thx. an what is the gnome version of kde-su?
[03:58] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, in earlier versions, it created it, just like Destop
[03:59] <orbin> Sven_vB: gksu if i know what you're talking about
[03:59] <orbin> gksudo, sorry
[03:59] <Sven_vB> sudo was the 3rd thing i would have asked :)
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Ah.
[04:00] <jcmcbeth> hey i'm having trouble setting up phpmyadmin, can someone help me?
[04:01] <orbin> Sven_vB: equivalent for sudo?  sudo is DE independent :)
[04:01] <holycow> jcmcbeth: thats a php/apache/phpmyadmin question unfortunately, not appropriate for here
[04:01] <nickrud> Sven_vB, there'a actually a thing called gksu as well
[04:02] <Sven_vB> well, synaptic doesn't find "teatime", only "kteatime". :| where do i get the gnome teatime?
[04:02] <nickrud> Sven_vB, I don't think there is one
[04:02] <dderr> sometimes its just easier to open up your make and start streaming radio..sigh.
[04:02] <orbin> Sven_vB: you need to enable universe
[04:02] <orbin> ubotu: tell Sven_vB about repos
[04:03] <Sven_vB> uh. i dont want the universe =)
[04:03] <dderr> s/make/Mac
[04:03] <Sven_vB> i'll use sleep && xmessage
[04:03] <Sven_vB> thx
[04:03] <nickrud> oh, there is one :)
[04:03] <titanium_platypu> apparently, it's only DosBox that won't give me sound :(
[04:03] <molinero> !kubuntu
[04:03] <ubotu> somebody said kubuntu was Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[04:04] <BuiSyPhong> !kde
[04:04] <ubotu> kde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[04:04] <BuiSyPhong> cool, very cool bot :)
[04:04] <Sven_vB> hm. i just discovered that there's a real tea timer next to my monitor. im too much if a geek
[04:04] <jonny> Hi
[04:05] <Dreamcatcher> Is there any way to get gnome to include a "kill" in the window context menu?
[04:05] <nickrud> nowotny, that is just precious
[04:05] <nickrud> errpast, *now
[04:05] <nickrud> tab completion hell
[04:06] <titanium_platypu> hi Codename_V
[04:06] <Codename_V> hi
[04:06] <orbin> Dreamcatcher: as opposed to clicking on close?
[04:06] <Dreamcatcher> When serpentine hung on the burn earlier, the X and close, and alt+F4 all failed.  Kill would have been very fine.
[04:07] <orbin> Dreamcatcher: you could always do alt+f2 then an 'xkill'
[04:07] <nickrud> Dreamcatcher, a simple workaround for that is Alt-f2 , xkill and click the window you wnat dead
[04:07] <Dreamcatcher> Thank you!
[04:07] <Xenguy> Dreamcatcher: yeah, windowmaker has that feature -- I always appreciated it
[04:07] <bthornton> Anyone know where I can find instructions on "exchanging" my 64-bit Firefox for a 32-bit version (so that I can use things like Flash and Sun's Java)?
[04:07] <user_> Does anyone know of a Free IDE for Gnome?
[04:07] <Dreamcatcher> I had windowmaker on my Gentoo box. :)  I'm trying out Ubuntu.
[04:08] <Xenguy> Dreamcatcher: well you can run what WM you want of course
[04:08] <holycow> *ooo*
[04:08] <holycow> firefox beta 2 is kinda nifty
[04:08] <arrick> hey guys I have a copy of windows XP Server 2003, and I need to burn an iso image, how do I do it?
[04:08] <arrick> 2003 server that is
[04:08] <Codename_V> arrick: k3b would be my recommendation
[04:08] <quacker> Dreamcatcher, Alt+Bkspc is an explicit X-server kill
[04:08] <Dreamcatcher> I thought it would be fun to try the default install for a bit.  It gives me something to learn.
[04:08] <Codename_V> user_: anjuta I'm thinking.
[04:09] <Xenguy> Dreamcatcher: but yeah, xkill is probably your best option otherwise
[04:09] <Dreamcatcher> Thank you!
[04:09] <Red-Sox> is there a windows theme for gnome?
[04:09] <rmlightning> i doubt that this is the place to post this question, but hopefully someone will be able to point me in the right direction.  i have a printer installed on my ubuntu system and it is networked to my winxp laptop.  however, when setting it up on my laptop, i need another driver as the driver that i have requires that the printer be attached directly to that computer.  anyone know of a compatible winxp driver for a hp psc-1510?
[04:09] <user_> user_: its called "anjuta" ?
[04:09] <quacker> Xenguy, he might not have xkil;l installed
[04:09] <Codename_V> user_: I'm thinking.  maybe that's not it though.  me, I just use glade.
[04:09] <Xenguy> quacker: I assumed it was there by default
[04:10] <Xenguy> !info xkill
[04:10] <ubotu> xkill: (X client - xkill), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.99.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 60 kB
[04:10] <Xenguy> apparently not
[04:10] <user_> codename_v: what is "glade"?
[04:10] <quacker>   $~/# sudo apt-get install xkill
[04:10] <Codename_V> user_: you build a user interface with glade.  and yeah, anjuta is the name of the gnome ide.  or that's one of them at least.
[04:11] <Dreamcatcher> Ok.  Thanks!
[04:11] <orbin> Codename_V: looks pretty useful.  i was gonna learn gtk+
[04:11] <user_> codename_v: where can I get it?
[04:11] <nickrud> I think xkill is, I
[04:11] <Codename_V> user_: apt-get I'd imagine.  I mean, you're on ubuntu, no?
[04:12] <Codename_V> orbin: I'd recommend going the gtk sharp route these days.
[04:12] <Xenguy> nickrud: I always thought so, but apparently it is listed as 'optional'
[04:12] <Codename_V> orbin: mono and all that nonsense.
[04:12] <user_> codename_va: Yes, Sir.
[04:12] <rmlightning> nickrud: thanx for ur help lastnight.  i got the printer working today :)
[04:12] <Codename_V> user_: so yeah, "apt-get install anjuta" or something along those lines.
[04:12] <nickrud> rmlightning, great
[04:13] <Codename_V> user_: or just fire up synaptic.  isn't that the apt frontend?
[04:13] <klaxian> is there anywhere to find out the new changes/enhancements that will be in dapper?
[04:13] <orbin> Codename_V: well, i'd like to just make some simple games/apps.  so mono's the go?
[04:13] <nickrud> Xenguy, I must have installed it, but don't remember doing so.
[04:13] <orbin> Codename_V: what distro are you running right now?
[04:13] <arrick> !iso
[04:13] <ubotu> iso is, like, download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[04:13] <mauper> orbin: mono is pure evil as satan made c# ;)
[04:14] <Xenguy> nickrud: that's the way it feels for me; I just always thought it was there
[04:14] <Codename_V> orbin: c# and gtk# and all that is what I'd recommed if you're wanting to get into gnome development these days, yeah.
[04:14] <nickrud> Xenguy, nautilus is optional as well :)
[04:14] <Xenguy> nickrud: aha
[04:14] <Codename_V> orbin: me?  depends on the machine.  on this particular one here, it's not even Linux.  mostly Rocks and Fedora at my work though.
[04:14] <Xenguy> nickrud: so it may very well be there by default
[04:14] <user_> how do I activate multivers again?
[04:14] <Xenguy> !repos
[04:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:15] <molinero> !edubuntu
[04:15] <ubotu> it has been said that edubuntu is an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu
[04:15] <user_> Thank you.
[04:15] <mauper> !kubuntu
[04:15] <ubotu> [kubuntu]  Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[04:15] <ralpho> Well fglrx switch hosed the whole thing
[04:16] <nickrud> Xenguy, I was looking at the dependencies; xbase-clients depends on it, and vncserver & a bunch of stuff depends on xbase-clients ...
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> How to set a value back to <no value> in gonf-editor?
[04:16] <orbin> Codename_V, mauper: would you happen to know what the gameset in gnome are coded in?
[04:16] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, leave it blank?
[04:16] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, delete the key, it will fall back on the default in /etc/gconf
[04:16] <Codename_V> orbin: gnome games?  C mostly I'd imagine.
[04:16] <mauper> orbin: nope, and honestly, I don't want to know ;)
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: But then I don't have the key there to remember that such a thing exists.
[04:16] <ralpho> wrong channel lol
[04:17] <IamEthos> hey, I installed Jack and now I can't hear anything?
[04:17] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, close and reopen gconf-editor :)
[04:17] <martyv> orbin, "apt-get source mygnomegame"
[04:17] <orbin> martyv: ah, thanks.
[04:17] <IamEthos> anyone have any idea why?
[04:17] <Ohm> Hey somebody here uses the QUCS program? it is a program for simulating circuits
[04:18] <nickrud> IamEthos, jack probably took over the sound devices
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Oooh...!
[04:18] <arrick> hey orbin, I am looking at the wiki on iso's and the iso option does not come up in my system? any help?
[04:18] <orbin> Codename_V: well, i've done c, and those games are sort of what i think i should start with.  would glade be sufficient to make those sort of interfaces?
[04:18] <nickrud> arrick, you still trying to copy that cd?
[04:18] <Ohm> Hey somebody here uses the QUCS program? it is a program for simulating circuits
[04:18] <arrick> I'm trying to burn an iso of win 2003 server in ubuntu orbin
[04:18] <arrick> yeah
[04:18] <orbin> arrick: url?
[04:19] <arrick> its on my external drive
[04:19] <nickrud> arrick, to get the cd into an iso, dd if=/dev/cdromX of=file.ios bs=1024
[04:19] <arrick> ok
[04:19] <orbin> martyv: that requires deb-src lines no?
[04:19] <Codename_V> orbin: sure.  I mean, you wouldn't even need glade.  what do you mean by start with those games though?  just reading the source and trying to understand them?
[04:19] <pjb> Hi!  I'm trying to find the installation guide for Ubuntu for a naive user, and can't find it.  Will it really be as simple and automatic as booting the Ubuntu install CD?
[04:20] <nickrud> arrick, then right click the iso file & write to disk.
[04:20] <Codename_V> pjb: yep.
[04:20] <orbin> Codename_V: well, i've never made an interface besides ahem, opengl text displays :)
[04:20] <arrick> nickrud, do I need to change anything in that command for my system?
[04:20] <kurei> hi
[04:20] <IamEthos> nickrud: i've tried stopping jack and I still don't hear anything
[04:20] <arrick> pjb, yep
[04:20] <martyv> orbin, yep that's it
[04:20] <nickrud> arrick, the /dev/cdromX <-- choose the right X
[04:21] <arrick> ok
[04:21] <pjb> Hope so. I'll be remote driving my brother to install it on his ThinkPad.  I'll guess I'll have to install it in a VM here before...
[04:21] <arrick> did that
[04:21] <arrick> anything else?
[04:21] <klaxian> was Dapper really delayed until June?
[04:21] <holycow> heh firefox 2.0 beta behaves more like epiphany, weird
[04:21] <nickrud> arrick, no, it's just a raw copy to your hard drive, very low level
[04:21] <holycow> klaxian: yep, and thankfully so
[04:21] <arrick> ok
[04:21] <klaxian> holycow: i'm sure there's a good reason, but i was all excited to get a new release soon ;)
[04:21] <Codename_V> orbin: first thing I'd do is just try and make a few simple apps with various toolkits.  gtk, qt, wxwindows, etc.  kinda get your feet wet so to speak.  should be pretty straight forward if you follow the tutorials floating around.
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> pjb: Unless you want to set it up dual-boot.  If you just want Ubuntu, it's very self explanatory.
[04:22] <nickrud> IamEthos, I have very fuzzy memories of jack, mostly of it conflicting with esd. Possibly it's still running, ps aux | grep jack
[04:22] <Codename_V> oops.  I'm talking to thin air apparently.
[04:22] <pjb> No, that'll be a pure Linux installation. What will be the step to format the whole disk for Linux?
[04:22] <holycow> klaxian: it was a public dealy, mark wanted to take some extra time and add polish.  i thought it was a great idea, ubuntu goals are quite high
[04:22] <klaxian> holycow: yes, i understand
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> pjb: Hit enter.
[04:23] <madcat`> hey
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> pjb: A lot.
[04:23] <nickrud> holycow, epiphany is as named :)
[04:23] <rafael_> hey cut somebady help to configure propftpd?
[04:23] <pjb> tonyyarusso: Ok. :-)
[04:23] <arrick> 0+0 records in
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[04:23] <Fluten> how easy is ubuntu for users new to linux in terms of installing and use? just point and click with no command line needed?
[04:23] <BlueHeron> Fluten: install = no command line needed
[04:23] <rafael_> ProFTPD 1.2.10 tgis version
[04:23] <BlueHeron> Fluten: it's gui
[04:23] <Codename_V> Fluten: installing is dead simple.  using is pretty simple too depending on what you mean by using it.
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> pjb: Just read, as there are little explanations of things along the way, so they'll tell you what to do as needed.
[04:24] <arrick> cause the cdrom is /dev/hdc in fstab
[04:24] <Fluten> and can extra packages not on the base cd be installed from debian's apt repository?
[04:24] <eternaljoy-> hey hey
[04:24] <Codename_V> Fluten: yep.
[04:24] <pjb> tonyyarusso: yes, the only problem is that I don't have a physical computer on which to try it before my brother 2000 km away will do it on his computer...
[04:24] <eternaljoy-> if I delete a file, and then empty trashcan!  Is there any way to get the file back and undelete it?
[04:24] <nickrud> arrick, I was just bit by the udev naming, it shifted out from under me again, use whatever your cd is
[04:24] <Nameeater> how can I create an icon to make cedega run a certain game so I dont have to type it out? just putting cedega /foo/foo.exe in the command box doesnt work
[04:24] <Codename_V> eternaljoy-: nope
[04:25] <Madpilot> Fluten, Ubuntu runs it's own repositories - using straight Debian stuff can break your Ubuntu...
[04:25] <BlueHeron> Fluten: ubuntu has it's own repo's
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> pjb: How old / experienced is this brother?  And does he have a second box to IM you with while doing it?
[04:25] <arrick> ok
[04:25] <eternaljoy-> Codename_V: its easy in MS windows :P why not Ubuntu?
[04:25] <pjb> tonyyarusso: totally newbie.
[04:25] <Codename_V> eternaljoy-: well, not unless you're willing to spend lots of money on data recovery.
[04:25] <Fluten> upgrading packages in windows is hell
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> pjb: Any way of keeping in contact?
[04:25] <pjb> Yes, fortunately he has a second computer.
[04:25] <Madpilot> eternaljoy-, Linux assumes you know what you're doing :P
[04:25] <eternaljoy-> Codename_V: so how come Ubuntu is so secure in deleting files?
[04:26] <mauper> eternaljoy: for ext2 there are tools afaik, forgot the name though
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> pjb: Bingo.  Just have him log onto I'm or IRC to this room, and begin the process.
[04:26] <Codename_V> eternaljoy-: hmm.  I wasn't aware that was so easy in windows.  I mean, it's easy before you empty the trash, sure.  that's what the trash is for.  but when you empty the trash, that's it.  you've permanently deleted your files.
[04:26] <holycow> eternaljoy-: it depends on your file system, most file systems just delete the pointer to the file and you can use various tools to read the platter and sometimes find your file.  generally its something you want to try as a last resort
[04:26] <tayon> why cant I install the 73 updates !??!?
[04:26] <pjb> Ok.  We'll be there when he'll install it. Thank you.
[04:26] <tkup> eternaljoy-, how many files did you delete?
[04:26] <th0un> tonnyarusso: Hey man, could you help me troubleshoot a problem i have when i ifconfig eth2 up ?
[04:26] <eternaljoy-> mauper: but I think im use ext3!  can I still undelete file?
[04:26] <Fluten> the user i'm looking for an easy linux distro also has an x86 mac mini. will the 386 image boot and install on it?
[04:26] <mauper> eternaljoy: avoid disk i.o. at all cost until recovery ;)
[04:27] <eternaljoy-> holycow: ok
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> th0un: Depends.
[04:27] <tkup> eternaljoy-, or should I say how many files is it that you want to recover
[04:27] <mauper> eternaljoy: ext3 is ext2 with journal so to speak (afaik)
[04:27] <eternaljoy-> tkup: 3 files I need to undelete
[04:27] <Codename_V> Fluten: doubt it.  macs have a different sorta bios
[04:27] <eternaljoy-> mauper: what tools are aviable for me to recover my 3 files?
[04:27] <th0un> tonnyarusso: does ubuntu already have the information for a Netgear WG511 Prism GT chipset PCMCIA card?
[04:28] <tkup> eternaljoy-, when was the last time you had them open?
[04:28] <Codename_V> actually the way I understand it, ext3 zeros a bunch of stuff out after a file delete.  so file recovery is way more difficult as compared to ext2.
[04:28] <tayon> why cant I install the 73 updates !??!?
[04:28] <mauper> eternaljoy: hang on a sec
[04:28] <eternaljoy-> Codename_V: mauper says I can undelete the files but you say no! who is right? :P
[04:28] <tayon> msg me plz...
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> th0un: I don't know that specific one, but Prisms are 50/50 or so I think.
[04:28] <eternaljoy-> mauper: ok
[04:28] <eternaljoy-> tkup: I had them open 5 mins ago
[04:28] <Codename_V> eternaljoy-: well, listen to me or not.  you're not going to be able to do it yourself.  not without a whole lot of effort anyhow.  if at all.  if you're willing to spend a bunch of money, then maybe...
[04:29] <eternaljoy-> Codename_V: but mauper says there are tools for free
[04:29] <th0un> tonnyarusso: hmm, it says... root@osiris:/usr/src# ifconfig eth2 up
[04:29] <th0un> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Timer expired
[04:29] <eternaljoy-> Codename_V: is he right?
[04:29] <Codename_V> eternaljoy-: nope.
[04:29] <mauper> Codename_V: wow, you are so damn sure ;)
[04:29] <tkup> eternaljoy-, I wrote a tool not too long ago that recovers them from memory, but it's very unstable. if you feel like a guinea pig right now...
[04:29] <eternaljoy-> Codename_V: so mauper is talking nonsense? :P
[04:29] <eternaljoy-> mauper: im listening :)
[04:29] <Codename_V> eternaljoy-: he's probably talking about an ext2 recovery tool.
[04:29] <mauper> gtkrecover seems to be a frontend of some sort :)
[04:29] <eternaljoy-> tkup: no thanks :)
[04:29] <Codename_V> eternaljoy-: it's big news to me if there's something out for ext3.
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> th0un: I don't know.  You need to find someone that knows about your card.  I'm not the person for this question; ask the channel, check the wiki and the forums.
[04:30] <McPants> spinrite
[04:30] <eternaljoy-> Codename_V: wont a ext2 recovery tool undelete my files?
[04:30] <McPants> it covers ext3
[04:30] <eternaljoy-> Codename_V: isnt ext2 and ext3 the same to recover files?
[04:30] <th0un> tonyyarusso: Alright thanks a lot
[04:30] <Codename_V> eternaljoy-: scroll up man.
[04:30] <chris_> yes it is the same.... You shouldve unmounted the disk ASAP and used knoppix
[04:30] <mauper> eternaljoy: and "recover" seems to be just the thing you are looking for ... and with gtkrecover you seem to have a gui ... never tried both though ...
[04:31] <tanuki_> cantcan someone tell me what plugins i need to play mpeg files in totem?
[04:31] <eternaljoy-> mauper: where can I get the tool?
[04:31] <th0un> EVERYONE: Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone here has a  Netgear WG511 Prism GT chipset PCMCIA wireless NIC <-- I am having issues ifconfig eth2 up with it
[04:31] <CodyDH> Is there a program in the default ubuntu repos that allows for graphical configuration of ndiswrapper?
[04:31] <mauper> it's in the standard repository ... you shouldn't install it on your harddrive from which you are trying to recover files ...
[04:32] <arrick> help with iso burn>
[04:32] <eternaljoy-> mauper: ok thanks
[04:32] <eternaljoy-> later
[04:32] <Skinux> th0un: I had very good luck with my WG511 ....
[04:32] <holycow> th0un: i do.  in breezy by default you cant start it up automatically.  you need to download the prism FIRMWARE and put it in the right place,then ifup will work.  google up the prism website firmware and they will have instructions for this on there
[04:32] <tanuki_> can someone tell me what plugins i need to play mpeg files in totem?
[04:32] <Codename_V> mauper: apparently revover is just a front end to an ext2 recovery app.  I stills say it's not going to work.
[04:32] <Madpilot> !tell tanuki_ about restricted
[04:33] <tanuki_> !freeformats
[04:33] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[04:33] <mauper> Codename_V: yay, you are right ... but I remember clearly a way of recovering for ext3 ...
[04:34] <th0un> holycow: thank god! You are an angel on earth haha, ive been tackling this issue for a few hours now - okay so I have the firmware, do you know where to put it and what to call it? the wiki isnt specifying
[04:34] <Codename_V> mauper: I'm not saying it's impossible.  I still say it would be expensive.
[04:35] <holycow> th0un: no i forget, its on their website, its a directory nested like 5 dirs deep or something
[04:35] <th0un> holycow: alright, remember the website?
[04:35] <mauper> Codename_V: looks like ext3 zeros out the pointers ... sigh ... but it still has ext2 architecture underneath ... so grep for it ;)
[04:35] <th0un> holycow: just want to make sure im not going to the wrong one
[04:35] <holycow> th0un: yes, google
[04:35] <holycow> damnit!
[04:35] <holycow> :)
[04:36] <^reapser> Well after REbooting My windows...Because i messed my UBUNTU install..I give up..
[04:36] <th0un> holycow: does prism54.org ring a bell?
[04:36] <slew> dont give up!!
[04:36] <holycow> something like that
[04:36] <heinouskyle> why is it so damn difficult to get a logitech mouse working properly?
[04:36] <AngryElf> i deleted other users home directories and all of a sudden i can't log into the normal Gnome session w/o it locking up after "nautilus"......i'm in failsafe right now
[04:37] <thenuke> heinouskyle: dont know, and you are not helping anyone to figure it out
[04:37] <th0un> holycow: okay, i know im being annoying right about now, but I was wondering if you know if it is a softMAC, freeMAC, or fullMAC driver
[04:37] <tanuki_> can someone tell me why i am having this error? E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:37] <dabaR> AngryElf: did not anything to session startup?
[04:37] <McPants> and ironically my microsoft mouse worked fine
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> ^reapser: Don't give up!  What happened?
[04:37] <dabaR> add^
[04:37] <arrick> tanuki_, follow the multivers wiki
[04:37] <arrick> !multiverse
[04:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:38] <holycow> th0un: dude, just research it, i'm not gonna do it for you :) the info i gave is really the framework of the schema you need finish up the task, just go forth and google
[04:38] <AngryElf> not that i'm aware of
[04:38] <tanuki_> i already enabled multiverse repos though
[04:38] <tanuki_> it should be there
[04:38] <th0un> holycow: ighty ight ight
[04:38] <^reapser> I messed up my Windows...couldnt reboot on windows after partition..
[04:38] <arrick> ok, you need more than I can give then tanuki_
[04:38] <arrick> sorry :-(:::
[04:39] <McPants> what would be a good linux compatible video card besides nvidia?
[04:39] <Codename_V> ^reapser: what happens exactly?
[04:39] <^reapser> i deleted all my files on one of my hard drives..
[04:39] <Codename_V> McPants: stick with nvidia
[04:39] <noiesmo> McPants, I have system with ATI 9800pro goes ok but always used nvidia
[04:39] <^reapser> I messed up my Windows...couldnt reboot on windows after partitioning Ubuntu.
[04:39] <Codename_V> ^reapser: I thought you said you merely partitioned.
[04:40] <da5id_> Hi all...my first IRC session, ever, on Ubuntu!
[04:40] <^reapser> yea like 10gigs.
[04:40] <Codename_V> ^reapser: grub won't boot windows?  or what?
[04:40] <McPants> that's what I suspected, there really is none besides nvidia
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> da5id_: Welcome.  Be sure to read the /topic.
[04:40] <^reapser> but i couldnt figure it out
[04:40] <da5id_> read /topic
[04:40] <Codename_V> McPants: older ati and matrox cards work grand.  but if you want something fairly modern that's supported, nvidia is the way to go.
[04:40] <kurei> hi
[04:41] <Xenguy> da5id_: welcome to Dante's Inferno :-)
[04:41] <McPants> I just need something that will support vertex/pixel shader
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> ^reapser: You'll need to give more specific information of exactly what you did and what happened so people can understand.
[04:41] <kurei> hi guys, how do i play mp3 and divx in ubuntu?
[04:41] <mauper> !mp3
[04:41] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:42] <mauper> !divx
[04:42] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:42] <nickrud> tanuki_, does apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse show any candidiate?
[04:42] <kurei> tnx
[04:42] <AngryElf> yea, it's freezing at Nautilus......any ideas why this might be happening?
[04:42] <AngryElf> where can i check for errors on a previous log in?
[04:42] <kurei> is ubotu a bot?
[04:42] <bigmoe> if i am on a network but i cant ping anyone in it what is the problem???
[04:42] <^reapser> I messed up my Windows...couldnt reboot on windows after partitioning  10 Gigs for Ubuntu, so I had to reformat one of my HD's
[04:42] <mauper> !ubotu
[04:42] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:43] <bigmoe> could someone help??
[04:43] <McPants> any recommends of a model for a cheap one with this pixel/vertex shader maybe about $100us
[04:43] <dabaR> bigmoe: can you surf?
[04:43] <Codename_V> bigmoe: your network card isn't configured right?  your cables aren't plugged in?
[04:43] <da5id_> reading faqonirc brb
[04:43] <kurei> cool @ubotu
[04:43] <^reapser> is not so easy..and im not that dumb in computers..
[04:43] <bigmoe> everything is configured and plugged
[04:43] <bigmoe> i cant surf
[04:43] <dabaR> bigmoe: well no fun at the beach then.
[04:44] <Codename_V> bigmoe: what's ifconfig say about your ip address, netmask, etc and what kinda network are you on?
[04:44] <bigmoe> what?
[04:44] <dabaR> how did you get the IP, whose network is it?
[04:44] <Skinux> bigmoe: Accessories->Terminal then type ifconfig
[04:44] <Codename_V> bigmoe: open up a terminal and type this: sudo ifconfig
[04:44] <bigmoe> it is a static ip from the isp
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> ^reapser: a) Had you installed Ubuntu yet after the partitioning but before the reboot, b) Did you read the dual-boot wiki page?
[04:45] <arrick> bigmoe, who is your ISP?
[04:45] <bigmoe> and i did put the gateway also
[04:45] <madcat`> doh, gotta run
[04:45] <AngryElf> when I log in as my regular user, gnome hangs at "nautilus"  i'm on failsafe gnome right now........any ideas???
[04:45] <arrick> and how much do you pay a month?
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> ^reapser: Also, what did you use to partition?
[04:45] <arrick> to get a static IP
[04:45] <bigmoe> it is an ip
[04:46] <bigmoe> i have configured the card with ifconfig
[04:46] <Heirak-Makri> Makri Team Salute!
[04:46] <Neprok-Makri> SALUTE!
[04:46] <nick|here> i want to uninstall esound but when i try apt-get remove esound. tells me a lot of package will be removed too. how can i remove only esound?
[04:46] <Mufatsihama-Makr> SALUTE!
[04:46] <dabaR> :-/:-D
[04:47] <Codename_V> nick|here: why would you want to do that?
[04:47] <Skinux> bigmoe: look at the Gateway address, can you ping that address by number
[04:47] <mauper> AngryElf: mabye it has something todo with the gnome session management ?
[04:47] <^reapser> tonyyarusso ..I read for like 2 days ...but no can do...
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> reapser: No one can do what?  If you mean install dual-boot, sure they can.
[04:47] <bigmoe> i have a proxy and a gateway and i cannot ping either one
[04:47] <AngryElf> maybe, something was strange in there
[04:47] <AngryElf> brb
[04:48] <nick|here> Codename_V: i want to make my sound configuration working properly, and i have been told to remove esound
[04:48] <Codename_V> bigmoe: if ya want my help, you oughta answer the questions I'm asking man.
[04:48] <fmasi> hi i like to know how to recreate the file phpinfo.php
[04:48] <bigmoe> ok then please ask me
[04:48] <reapser> i dunno tonyyarusso if I had a Video that will be very helpfull
[04:48] <Codename_V> bigmoe: run ifconfig and tell us what the output is as far as ip and netmask and whatnot goes.
[04:49] <QMario> Does GMail Drive work with Linux?
[04:49] <bigmoe> ok
[04:49] <Codename_V> bigmoe: rafb.net/paste is useful in these situations.
[04:49] <dabaR> he should set up his interface in /etc/network/interfaces.
[04:49] <reapser> after i install even more Questions ..rite...
[04:49] <Codename_V> nick|here: don't see how removing that would make a difference.
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> reapser: There is one actually, I might have a URL.
[04:49] <Codename_V> dabaR: probably.  I just figure he oughta tell us what it says currently if he's expecting it to work and it doesn't.
[04:50] <bigmoe> link encap:Ethernet HWaddr: 00:50:BA:D8:D6:7E
[04:50] <fmasi> hi i like to know how to recreate the file phpinfo.php in apache ?
[04:50] <reapser> cool..if you can pass it up..
[04:50] <reapser> sweet..
[04:50] <bigmoe> inet addr: 192.168.0.171 Bcast 192.168.0.255 Mask: 255.255.255.0
[04:50] <QMario> Okay, I found a better package!!! gmailfs!!! Yay!!! :)
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> reapser: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[04:50] <bigmoe> and all the other values are zero
[04:50] <reapser> tonyyarusso ..funny is thats how I was with MIRC when I was learning it..
[04:51] <dabaR> such as http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11283
[04:51] <Codename_V> bigmoe: and you're on a private network like that?  with 192.168.0.0 addresses?
[04:51] <bigmoe> adn the last line is Interrupt: 5 Base address:0xe800
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> reapser: That video assumes you're doing both installs from scratch first.
[04:51] <bigmoe> yes
[04:51] <Codename_V> bigmoe: next time just use rafb.net/paste please.  it's polite.
[04:52] <mauper> !pastebin
[04:52] <ubotu> [pastebin]  Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> reapser: So you'll just be doing the Linux half of it.
[04:52] <Codename_V> bigmoe: such as what else is on this network?
[04:52] <bigmoe> im using another pc
[04:52] <bigmoe> the pc im fixing doesnt have internet
[04:52] <reapser> ok..big help you were ..thanks..lets see if I can do it now.
[04:52] <Red-Sox> after you apt-get something, where do they go?
[04:52] <Skinux> bigmoe: what does the ifconfig look like for the other PC
[04:52] <bigmoe> so how can i past it to this form
[04:52] <Codename_V> bigmoe: and what's its setup?  this other pc?  it works and can ping things and whatnot?
[04:53] <Codename_V> bigmoe: how'd you paste it to the channel?
[04:53] <bigmoe> no i can ping myself only no other
[04:53] <dabaR> fmasi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP check out the status section a little after installation instructions
[04:53] <mauper> Codename_V: dns problem maybe ?
[04:53] <Red-Sox> Codename_V, pastebin
[04:53] <fmasi> dabaR thx
[04:53] <bigmoe> i didnt get u Codename_V
[04:53] <dabaR> bigmoe: have you set up your interaces file yet? and then restarted the interface?
[04:53] <opter> what file holds my enviornment variables?
[04:54] <Codename_V> bigmoe: doesn't matter.  so this other pc.  it works?  can access the network, the internet, that sorta thing?
[04:54] <mauper> bigmoe: try "ping 216.239.57.104"
[04:54] <bigmoe> no
[04:54] <reapser> anybody type my NICK pls..
[04:54] <Codename_V> mauper: dunno why he wouldn't be able to ping hosts local to his network then.  but maybe...
[04:54] <reapser> see if highlite feature on mirc works
[04:54] <mauper> Codename_V: google allows pings for sure ;)
[04:54] <Codename_V> bigmoe: so nothing on your local network works?  how is it you know the 192 range is the right one to put?
[04:55] <bigmoe> Destination host unreachable from 192.168.0.171
[04:55] <Skinux> reapser: highlight?
[04:55] <bigmoe> because the internet guy gave me the ip
[04:55] <opter> what file holds my enviornment variables?
[04:55] <reapser> yea there is feature on mirc where if someone types your name it hightltes it
[04:56] <Madpilot> reapser, XChat does that too - I think it's pretty standard for IRC clients, actually :P
[04:56] <bigmoe> the connection was working fine on the winbox
[04:56] <Codename_V> bigmoe: with the same settings and all?
[04:56] <bigmoe> but i installed ubuntu and nothing went right
[04:57] <bigmoe> yes
[04:57] <Codename_V> bigmoe: I still don't get what you were trying to ping here.  what is it you can't ping?
[04:57] <kbrooks> I wwant to sign the Ubuntu COC.
[04:57] <bigmoe> everything on the network accept myself
[04:57] <Madpilot> kbrooks, got a Launchpad page w/ your GPG key added?
[04:57] <arrick> How do I turn a file into a bootable ISO image, so I can burn it to disc?
[04:57] <Codename_V> bigmoe: and what else is on the network?
[04:58] <Dreamcatcher> What should I use to convert .wav to .mp3?  Wht happened to lame?
[04:58] <kbrooks> Madpilot, oops
[04:58] <Codename_V> (jeez this is getting painful)
[04:58] <reapser> im not using Scripts though..
[04:58] <Madpilot> kbrooks, if you've got a Ubuntu wiki account, you'll have an LP page too
[04:58] <bigmoe> on the winbox there i could ping the dns to see if the internet is working
[04:58] <reapser> not for now
[04:58] <McPants> Dreamcatcher: I use audacity
[04:58] <kbrooks> hang on Madpilot
[04:58] <bigmoe> now i cant even surf the internet
[04:59] <Codename_V> bigmoe: so there's a windows machine on the network?  and this thing works?  it can ping other machines, browse the internet, that sorta thing?
[04:59] <Dreamcatcher> That seems like a rather lot of steps to do for each file.
[04:59] <Xenguy> Dreamcatcher: lame should work fine
[04:59] <McPants> I think you can batch somehow
[04:59] <mauper> Xenguy: it not only should, it does :)
[04:59] <bigmoe> Codename_V: yes and if i just plug the net cable on the winbox it directly works
[04:59] <Dreamcatcher> I don't see lame in the add applications or the synaptic program manager?
[04:59] <Xenguy> mauper: yes indeed
[05:00] <Xenguy> !find lame
[05:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'lame' (9 shown): flamethrower ;; glame ;; gstreamer0.8-lame ;; lame ;; lame-extras ;; liblame-dev ;; liblame0 ;; systemimager-server-flamethrowerd ;; toolame.
[05:00] <Codename_V> bigmoe: great.  so what's this windows machine's setup?  ip and whatnot.
[05:00] <Xenguy> ha
[05:00] <Xenguy> !lame
[05:00] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Xenguy
[05:00] <Skinux> bigmoe: do ipconfig on the winbox
[05:00] <mauper> Dreamcatcher: add the additional repositories
[05:00] <SpookyET> hi
[05:00] <bigmoe> the ip u mean
[05:00] <Xenguy> .oO(batting a thousand...)
[05:00] <Codename_V> bigmoe: did I stutter?
[05:00] <SpookyET> Does Writer supports one paragraph in English, another in French?  There is no Set Language like in MS Word.
[05:00] <arrick> How do I turn a file into a bootable ISO image, so I can burn it to disc?
[05:01] <arrick> or even turn the file into a iso image
[05:01] <bigmoe> the same ip iam using the same settings
[05:01] <Codename_V> bigmoe: and you know this how?
[05:01] <SpookyET> I'm talking about OpenOffice Writer
[05:02] <Dreamcatcher> I thought I had added the additional repositories.  I'll go look.
[05:02] <Codename_V> arrick: one sec.
[05:02] <arrick> ok, Codename_V
[05:02] <Madpilot> SpookyET, what settings does the change-lang. thing in MS Off. actually change?
[05:02] <bigmoe> when the first time the cable guy gave me an ip and the dns ip and proxy
[05:02] <arrick> bigmoe which cable company?
[05:03] <Codename_V> arrick: I have this in my notes: mkisofs -J -r -b floppy_image . > /tmp/iso_image
[05:03] <bigmoe> i am in the middle east if i told u the name u wouldnt know
[05:03] <arrick> wasnt Jim Carey was it? cable guy?
[05:03] <McPants> they dont even care around here. I could probably steal it and go years without being noticed
[05:03] <arrick> Codename_V, is this to make a file on the pc into an iso?
[05:03] <arrick> for CD?
[05:03] <Codename_V> arrick: yep.  a bootable floppy image.
[05:03] <arrick> will it work for cD?
[05:03] <Codename_V> arrick: dunno if that will help you or not, but there it is.
[05:03] <arrick> ok
[05:04] <arrick> this files a bit big for floppy
[05:04] <SpookyET> Madpilot: In MS Word, You select, a sentence, a word, a pargraph, etc. and go to "Set Language" and you select a language for spell checking.  Thus, it allows you to have multiple languages in the same document.
[05:04] <Codename_V> bigmoe: let me ask you this.  when you try and ping say your gateway or whatever.  do any lights on your switch or whatever blink?
[05:04] <SpookyET> It remembers which text is in what language
[05:04] <Madpilot> SpookyET, ah, for spellchecking - not sure if OOo supports that (I'm unilingual, so it's not a concern of mine...)
[05:04] <bigmoe> Codename_V: yea just the first time then it stops
[05:05] <Madpilot> SpookyET, try #openoffice.org
[05:05] <Codename_V> bigmoe: your network cable has worked with another machine before?
[05:05] <GatoLoko> hi
[05:06] <dabaR> Hello crazy cat
[05:06] <bigmoe> yes with winbox and laptop using ubuntu
[05:06] <SpookyET> The channel is dead
[05:06] <Codename_V> bigmoe: try dhcp and see if you get a 192 range address.  that's what I'd suggest at this point.  or try tcpdump and see what addresses are coming down the pipe.
[05:06] <Codename_V> if any
[05:07] <dabaR> SpookyET: it's still breathing. look, it moved...
[05:07] <GatoLoko> somebody knows if there is a problem with the fridge?
[05:07] <dabaR> GatoLoko: ya, I have some dead animals in there.
[05:07] <dabaR> however, http://fridge.ubuntu.com loads here.
[05:07] <McPants> would the nVidia GeForce 6600 GT fully work in linux?
[05:08] <GatoLoko> dabaR it loads but is blank
[05:08] <GatoLoko> no new events
[05:08] <Codename_V> McPants: yep
[05:08] <Codename_V> McPants: with drivers put out by nvidia of course.
[05:08] <dabaR> Kubuntu in the press is the latest news. Clear your cache.
[05:08] <nick|here> where should be  .bin files for an usb device?(now located in a directory inside  /usr/local/share/usb)
[05:08] <McPants> yes of course, I have an MX card working fine now, just no pixel shaders
[05:08] <AngryElf> alright, it's not gdmsetup that's causing the problems.......something is just hanging......where do logs go for the login process?
[05:09] <arrick> hey Codename_V can I pm, or can you go to #flood?
[05:09] <GatoLoko> dabaR sorry, i talk about calendar view
[05:09] <McPants> here's hoping, I just bought it online
[05:09] <Codename_V> arrick: knock yourself out
[05:09] <bigmoe> i dont use dhcp but the tcpdump returned tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
[05:09] <bigmoe> and then froze
[05:10] <Codename_V> bigmoe: well yeah, you want to wait and see if any traffic hits your machine with tcpdump.
[05:10] <Codename_V> it's not frozen.  just hit control C to kill it.
[05:10] <bigmoe> nothing am still waiting
[05:10] <Codename_V> and I know you're not using dhcp.  but I suggest you try it and see what happens.
[05:11] <Family_Gal19> I have a question regarding the install of the newest ubuntu.
[05:11] <daniel3333> breazy??
[05:11] <bigmoe> i just type dhcp?? on terminal
[05:11] <bigmoe> or what
[05:11] <Family_Gal19> yes the breezy badger
[05:11] <Codename_V> bigmoe: probably that /etc/sysconfig/network file or whatever that someone mentioned earlier.
[05:11] <Family_Gal19> I am following the install, I do not get prompted for a root password. I do not know what the default is, or if I missed something.
[05:12] <Codename_V> bigmoe: I couldn't say for sure off the top of my head.  I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to debian.
[05:12] <Xenguy> !tell Family_Gal19 about root
[05:12] <Codename_V> arrick: where are you running this at?
[05:12] <AngryElf> anybody, where do logs from the login process.........gnome is freezing up at "nautilus"
[05:13] <Codename_V> you weren't kidding abuot the private message by the way.
[05:13] <Codename_V> yikes
[05:13] <bigmoe> but the thing is even when i unplug the cable it still show that it is connected
[05:13] <Xenguy> AngryElf: dmesg maybe  ?
[05:13] <Codename_V> bigmoe: what still shows you're connected?
[05:14] <Family_Gal19> THanks a ton! that's a piece of cake!!
[05:14] <arrick> Codename_V, you get yoru pm?
[05:14] <bigmoe> i have the connection icon on my ubuntu
[05:14] <arrick> terminal
[05:14] <arrick> home dir
[05:14] <arrick> yeah
[05:14] <arrick> I didnt want to flood the channel
[05:14] <bigmoe> so it still shows that it is connected
[05:14] <Codename_V> arrick: if I remember right, you want to run that command I told ya in a directory that contains nothing but the file you're wanting to turn into an iso
[05:15] <arrick> ok
[05:15] <arrick> thanks
[05:15] <arrick> I hope it does cds
[05:15] <AngryElf> Xenguy, it's from the previous login........this login worked (Failsafe)
[05:15] <arrick> this is 200mg file i need into an iso image
[05:16] <Xenguy> AngryElf: i c
[05:16] <Codename_V> arrick: what is this file if I may?
[05:16] <arrick> WinServPro2003
[05:17] <Codename_V> arrick: then it's already an iso I'd imagine.
[05:17] <Sven|blubb> re
[05:17] <arrick> nope
[05:17] <Codename_V> arrick: or maybe a zip file?
[05:17] <arrick> nope
[05:17] <Codename_V> arrick: then what?  what's this tell ya: file windows_junk
[05:17] <arrick> I've upgraded 2000 to 2003 server with my external drive, and have to create a iso to make a cd of it
[05:17] <brandon_> if i want to apt-get upgrade, but i want to exclude one package that the system would like to upgrade, is there a switch for that? maybe "--keep back" or something?
[05:18] <bigmoe> i have to restart the networking each time a change something or it will automaticaly change
[05:18] <arrick> I had to do the upgrade cause I didnt know how to burn iso images
[05:18] <Codename_V> bigmoe: you'd need to restart it.
[05:18] <Codename_V> arrick: so I still don't get what type of file this is, and why you'd want to make a cd out of it.
[05:19] <arrick> exe, and has to be a iso cd to boot from the cd
[05:19] <Codename_V> arrick: so you have a windows exectuable?  that's what the file command tells you?  something along the lines of this you'd run: file foo.exe
[05:20] <arrick> yeah
[05:20] <Codename_V> arrick: yeah?  what's it tell you?
[05:20] <Codename_V> arrick: exe is just a name.  files can be anything regardless of their names.
[05:20] <arrick> ok hangon
[05:20] <bigmoe> Codename_V: but that pc doesnt have an audio card could this be a problem
[05:20] <bigmoe> ??
[05:21] <Codename_V> bigmoe: what would sound have to do with your network?
[05:21] <geargolem> correct me if I'm wrong but if I want to install ubuntu on a second hd as well as the first I can pop in an install cd and direct it to install on hd2?
[05:21] <arrick> hey Codename_V I get arrick@ubuntu:~$ file foo.exe
[05:21] <arrick> foo.exe: ERROR: cannot open `foo.exe' (No such file or directory)
[05:21] <Codename_V> geargolem: yep
[05:22] <geargolem> ok, thankyou Codename_V
[05:22] <Codename_V> arrick: well yeah ya dummy.  you'd replace the "foo.exe" with the actual name of the file.
[05:22] <arrick> oh oh
[05:22] <Codename_V> =)
[05:22] <Eleaf> lol
[05:24] <nick|here> any idea howto install m-audio usb on ubuntu??
[05:24] <Cooner750_> Ubuntu won't allow me to write to my FAT32 hard drive. It states since I'm not the owner I can't change the permissions
[05:24] <Cooner750_> hda1
[05:24] <arrick> hey Codename_V check the private
[05:24] <Codename_V> Cooner750_: root could probably write to it.
[05:25] <Codename_V> Cooner750_: but if you want a normal user to be able to, youd pass umask=777 or something like that as an option when you mount it.
[05:25] <Codename_V> or just user=bob or something.
[05:25] <Codename_V> arrick: put some quotes around your file name.
[05:25] <arrick> ok
[05:26] <nick|here> i can listen to music, but i can't control the volume :(  anybody know how to install  sound drivers?
[05:26] <Eleaf> ?
[05:26] <arrick> its in private Codename_V
[05:26] <Eleaf> nick|here, you can't move the volume slider?
[05:26] <Codename_V> arrick: so yeah, looks like that file you have there is a video of some sort.
[05:27] <arrick> nope, its the server os
[05:27] <Codename_V> arrick: probably something you don't want to look at if you downloaded it thinking it was a copy of windows 2003 server.
[05:27] <nick|here> Eleaf: I can move it but work's not
[05:27] <arrick> ok
[05:27] <arrick> Ive loaded it on the server at the college
[05:28] <Codename_V> arrick: the file command doesn't lie
[05:28] <arrick> ok
[05:28] <Codename_V> least it never does on my end
[05:28] <nick|here> Eleaf: And the gnome volume control at the systray tells me there isn't any soun device?
[05:28] <arrick> Codename_V, that mean it might be a virus?
[05:29] <Codename_V> arrick: no, I mean it might be a video of something you don't want to look at.
[05:29] <arrick> ok
[05:29] <arrick> Codename_V, that might be why totem want to open it then
[05:29] <Codename_V> well, I spose it could be a trojaned video too.  but I wouldn't worry too much if I wasn't on windows.
[05:29] <arrick> ok
[05:30] <Cooner750_> What's the command to mount hda1 with umask 777?
[05:30] <Codename_V> or maybe it is a virus and they're doing something fancy with it.  I mean, it does end in .exe and all.
[05:30] <nick|here> Cooner750_:  mount ---help
[05:30] <Codename_V> arrick: next time before you try and pirate windows, you could get it for free you know.  like a 3 month trial or whatever.
[05:31] <CarlK> !paste
[05:31] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[05:31] <IamEthos> okay, so I installed and removed Jack
[05:31] <IamEthos> and now my sound is horrible
[05:31] <IamEthos> it's distorting
[05:31] <IamEthos> it was distorting while Jack was still installed
[05:31] <IamEthos> does anyone have a clue about how to get things back to the way they were?
[05:31] <arrick> Codename_V, thats what it was supposed to be, got it froma microsoft tech's link for use with elarning 2003 at the college
[05:32] <arrick> I dont do pirates, but I will do demos Codename_V
[05:32] <Codename_V> arrick: hey man, what ever lets you sleep at night.
[05:32] <nick|here> IamEthos: Have you got any idea howto install usb soundcards?
[05:33] <arrick> Codename_V, I ould lose my license from microsoft if I was pirating
[05:33] <IamEthos> ooh
[05:33] <IamEthos>  I think I just had the PCM volume up to high in the volume control
[05:33] <arrick> and it pays my check most of the time
[05:33] <digs> hi, I'm trying to install totem-xine and it sets to remove ubuntu-desktop, is there any problem to remove this?
[05:33] <IamEthos> nick|here: no clue
[05:33] <IamEthos> I've never used one
[05:33] <digs> it says
[05:34] <_jason> digs: no, just be sure to install it before a dist-upgrade
[05:34] <nick|here> IamEthos: thanks
[05:34] <digs> _jason, right, thanks!
[05:34] <arrick> so off deleting I shall go and calling microsoft on monday I shall do, thnks for trying to help me out Codename_V and nickrud
[05:35] <IamEthos> are there any media players that are more like Winamp 5.x?
[05:35] <IamEthos> with a media library, CD burning built in and so on?
[05:36] <arrick> ok later guys
[05:38] <harisund> hello everyone, I was wondering about the lack of instructions for Firefox 1.5 configurations in the wiki.
[05:38] <_jason> harisund: what do you mean?
[05:38] <harisund> I am trying to get the plugins.
[05:39] <harisund> I did a fresh install of Ubuntu, and the first thing I did was a "sudo aptitude install libstdc++5"
[05:39] <fiendskull9> hey
[05:39] <fiendskull9> firefox is using ALOT of ram in Gnome
[05:39] <fiendskull9> like 100-300 mb of it
[05:39] <grievre> how much is ALOT
[05:39] <grievre> oh
[05:39] <harisund> Then I downloaded firefox 1.5, extracted it in /opt/firefox, made /usr/bin/firefox and /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox symlinks to /opt/firefox/firefox
[05:39] <grievre> harisund: why? :(
[05:40] <fiendskull9> but ive heard other people with the same prob
[05:40] <_jason> harisund: what problem are you having?
[05:40] <grievre> harisund: why not just apt-get install firefox
[05:40] <mauper> fiendskull9: yep: known problem: a) webpages use a lot of memory b) it has memory leaks
[05:40] <harisund> Does that give me 1.5?
[05:40] <grievre> maybe
[05:40] <_jason> harisund: it does if you are on dapper
[05:40] <mauper> harisund: nope
[05:40] <fiendskull9> mauper, is there a newer version that i can update too?
[05:40] <fiendskull9> mauper, im using the shipped one with breezy right now.
[05:40] <grievre> yeah you might want to disable the history caching thing
[05:40] <grievre> it caches rendered pages which eats a lot of RAM
[05:40] <harisund> That's what I was afraid of .. I am used to having 1.5.whatever_is_the_latest
[05:40] <mauper> fiendskull9: manually install the new binaries, doesn't solve the memory problem though ;)
[05:41] <fiendskull9> mauper, ight
[05:41] <fiendskull9> mauper, im gonna start using opera anyways
[05:41] <iGotNoTime> I am getting an error that reads: Can not mount drive, could not determine file system type, and none was specified....
[05:41] <iGotNoTime> do I fix that in fstab?
[05:41] <_jason> harisund: if you follow the instructions, you should end up with the same plugins you had in 1.07
[05:41] <mauper> fiendskull9: yuck
[05:41] <fiendskull9> mauper, and alot of the time i cant select stuff thats in [code]  tags in IPB boards
[05:41] <fiendskull9> mauper, it just eats a bunch of ram
[05:42] <harisund> _jason, I never had any plugins in 1.07 . That's the problems
[05:42] <fiendskull9> mauper, then hangs. damnit, im using enter too much
[05:42] <mauper> fiendskull9: one gets used to it ...
[05:42] <mauper> ;)
[05:42] <_jason> harisund: which plugins do you want now?
[05:42] <fiendskull9> mauper, well i used to be a long time opera user in *cough* microslush.
[05:42] <harisund> The first thing I did was install firefox 1.5.0.1
[05:42] <harisund> Basically totem or xine?
[05:42] <mauper> kick out all unecessary plugins, like flash, java etc. ;)
[05:42] <fiendskull9> mauper, and i basically customize everything to be the same as firefox, but i wish it had about:config. but i here the new opera wikll have it.
[05:43] <iGotNoTime> just a yes or no would make me happy. :) I just don't want to mess up my drives by assuming too much
[05:43] <harisund> anyway, that apart, what are the most popular / good video players on Ubuntu?
[05:43] <mauper> iGotNoTime: when do you get this error ?
[05:43] <_jason> harisund: well I use mplayer so I can't really help you.  Easiest way is to follow the instructions for installing them on firefox1.07 and then repeat the symlinking of the plugins directory on the wiki
[05:43] <_jason> harisund: I like mplayer
[05:43] <blanky> man how come
[05:43] <harisund> mplayer is good?
[05:43] <harisund> Ok thanks.. I will try that out now ..
[05:43] <blanky> when I join #slackware it's messed up
[05:44] <iGotNoTime> mauper, when I try use the gnome panel add on to mount the drive from a USB external case
[05:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell harisund about mplayer
[05:44] <blanky> like, it keeps saying 'unknown command' lol
[05:44] <iGotNoTime> mauper, it sees the drive, I just don't know if fstab is where I fix it
[05:44] <mauper> iGotNoTime: this should be handled by hotplug, so no fstab
[05:44] <iGotNoTime> ok
[05:44] <harisund> hey _jason, that was neat.. thanks
[05:44] <harisund> :D
[05:44] <iGotNoTime> I am happy I asked then
[05:44] <iGotNoTime> thanks mauper  :)
[05:45] <digs> is there anyway to install gnome's new clearlooks theme on breezy?
[05:46] <malone9> HELLO
[05:46] <malone9> oops
[05:47] <QMario> Does GMailFS work for anyone here?
[05:49] <QMario> How do I change my leaving message?
[05:49] <QMario> s/leaving/quitting/
[05:49] <Xenguy> QMario: /quit message
[05:50] <QMario> Won't the quit command make me log out of this channel?
[05:50] <trask> :) ubuntu roxxx (-:
[05:50] <Xenguy> QMario: typically, yes
[05:50] <mauper> QMario: yup, but you were asking how to change your quit - message ;)
[05:50] <IdleOne> QMario, /part to leave channel /quit to leave irc you can append a message to either command
[05:51] <Xenguy> QMario: what client?
[05:51] <QMario> GAIM.
[05:51] <Eleaf> QMario, you can also edit your default one in Settings, Preferences, general or something in xchat
[05:51] <Eleaf> ;_)
[05:53] <QMario> :) !!!lla uoy knahT
[05:53] <harisund> anyway, _jason, what is "totem"
[05:53] <__mikem> hey, it worked
[05:53] <harisund> I see both a totem-xine and a totem-gstreamer. What does totem mean?
[05:53] <_jason> harisund: it's the standard movie player in gnome
[05:54] <_jason> harisund: gstreamer and xine are each backends for totem
[05:54] <harisund> backends?
[05:54] <harisund> Oh, so totem is the front end?
[05:54] <_jason> harisund: ha yes, I guess
[05:54] <harisund> I see.. ok that makes a lot more sense now..
[05:54] <IdleOne> what can I use to convert .wav to .mp3 or ogg?
[05:55] <harisund> thanks again. just looking around the web now, basically looking at Ubuntu wiki, and official Firefox Linux plugins installation instructions.. thanks again
[05:55] <Killgore> does anyone know how to make ubuntu type startx automatically after i log in?
[05:55] <Xenguy> IdleOne: lame and oggenc work
[05:55] <IdleOne> both in repos?
[05:55] <harisund> And you know "sudo aptitude search totem" reveals "ttem is merely a dummy package ! I guess you are right, it is a front end
[05:55] <Xenguy> IdleOne: lame -h -V 4 x.wav x.mp3
[05:56] <Xenguy> oggenc x.wav
[05:56] <Xenguy> IdleOne: ^^
[05:56] <chenjf> Killgore,just put 'startx' in the end of your ~/.bashrc
[05:56] <mauper> Killgore: gdm ?
[05:56] <Killgore> the very end
[05:56] <Killgore> no
[05:56] <Killgore> i did a server install
[05:56] <chenjf> yes
[05:57] <harisund> Killgore, did you do an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop after a server install?
[05:57] <IdleOne> Xenguy, ty
[05:57] <Killgore> harisund: no
[05:58] <Xenguy> IdleOne: yw
[05:58] <Killgore> harisund: i installed X and blackbox
[05:58] <nickrud> chenjf, that's not good, it'll try to start an x session every time you open a terminal
[05:58] <IdleOne> Xenguy, apt-cache says lame iant a mp3 encoder?
[05:58] <IdleOne> aint*
[05:58] <harisund> Oh. Then ok, you would have to add startx to the very end. You could do "echo startx >> ~/.bashrc"
[05:59] <mauper> Killgore: no gdm then ;)
[05:59] <Killgore> ok thanks
[05:59] <Xenguy> IdleOne: hrm dunno about that; it works for me
[05:59] <Killgore> will i need to restart the computer to test if it works?
[05:59] <IdleOne> ok Ill give it a shot
[05:59] <nickrud> Killgore, no, just relogin
[05:59] <Killgore> k
[06:00] <Xenguy> IdleOne: looks like humour AFAICT
[06:00] <CarlK> I am trying to compile xvidcap.sf.net and get: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext
[06:00] <CarlK> anyone know what that is about?
[06:00] <Xenguy> IdleOne: April Fools :-)
[06:00] <IdleOne> heh
[06:00] <Eleaf> I need to linke /home/ftp/.rendered to /var/www/rendered.  Whenever I try and softlink, it doesn't do anything!  Can somebody give me the appropriate command to do this?
[06:00] <Killgore> heheh it works
[06:00] <IdleOne> I hate April 1st
[06:00] <Eleaf> link*
[06:00] <nickrud> Xenguy, IdleOne it's a recursive definition, like gnu (gnu's not unix)
[06:01] <harisund> Eleaf, what is the command you use to symlink?
[06:01] <Eleaf> ln -s /home/ftp/.rendered /var/www/rendered
[06:01] <Xenguy> nickrud: or 'wine is not an emulator'
[06:01] <nickrud> Xenguy, exactly :)
[06:01] <Xenguy> hehe, I like those
[06:01] <harisund> That means /home/ftp/.rendered is the original file?
[06:01] <Eleaf> yes
[06:01] <Eleaf> I tried it backwards as well.
[06:01] <nickrud> Killgore, now open a couple of terminals in blackbox
[06:02] <Killgore> yah
[06:02] <harisund> Well, AFAI it is "ln -s <original> <duplicate>"
[06:02] <Eleaf> every time it just makes a linked directory IN /home/ftp/.rendered (/home/ftp/.rendered/rendered)
[06:02] <harisund> Ok do one thing, go to /var/www
[06:02] <Eleaf> yes.
[06:02] <harisund> And then do "ln -s /home/ftp/.rendered rendered"
[06:03] <Eleaf> harisund, mmk..
[06:03] <Killgore> is it bad that my terminals say this
[06:03] <Eleaf> yikes
[06:03] <Killgore> X: User not authorised to run the X server
[06:03] <Eleaf> harisund, it makes the rendered directory, but...
[06:03] <Eleaf> harisund, it is in red text with black highlight,,.
[06:03] <Killgore> xinit: Server error
[06:03] <Eleaf> looks deadly
[06:03] <mauper> Killgore: because it is in bashrc, it tries to startx again ;)
[06:04] <Killgore> ahh
[06:04] <mauper> Killgore: whenever you start a terminal as well ...
[06:04] <Killgore> does that matter
[06:04] <mauper> Killgore: nope, but it is ugly ;)
[06:04] <Killgore> can i make that be non-echoed?
[06:04] <nickrud> well, it ain't elegant :)
[06:04] <harisund> Eleaf, if it is in red text with black highlight, that would generally mean it was not able to create the symlink
[06:04] <fiendskull9> hi
[06:05] <Eleaf> what should I do then harisund ?
[06:05] <MrKeuner> help
[06:05] <MrKeuner> !help
[06:05] <fiendskull9> how do i specify where the loading icons go if i were to make a splash screen?
[06:05] <nickrud> Killgore, you could install gdm and set it to autologin
[06:05] <roy> hi, question
[06:05] <harisund> let me see.. is .rendered a directory or a file?
[06:05] <Killgore> nickrud: no im low on space: 1.2gb hd
[06:05] <roy> how do I change what applications open images on double-click in gnome?
[06:06] <nickrud> Killgore, ah, you have a point there
[06:06] <Eleaf> harisund, what could be the problem...?
[06:06] <Eleaf> oohh lol nevermind
[06:06] <Eleaf> lol
[06:06] <mauper> roy: System->Preferences->Preferred Apps ...
[06:06] <harisund> Is .rendered a directory or a file?
[06:06] <mauper> roy: from memory
[06:06] <harisund> nickrud: Do you think Killgore could add startx to the init scripts in rc6.d?
[06:06] <fiendskull9> whats the package name that i can use to change the splash?
[06:06] <harisund> Eleaf: Maybe security?
[06:06] <roy> mauper: it only shows options for web browser, mail reader and terminal
[06:07] <nickrud> harisund, that's not a bad solution at all
[06:07] <mauper> roy: huh ... one sec ...
[06:07] <harisund> Eleaf: any effect if you try with sudo?
[06:07] <systemofadown> hello
[06:07] <Eleaf> harisund, got it working, /home/ftp/.rendered wasn't the EXACT path. ;)
[06:07] <nickrud> harisund, only it'd be /etc/rc2.d
[06:07] <systemofadown> anyone here use gtkpod?
[06:07] <harisund> Glad to hear that.. every thing fine?
[06:07] <mauper> roy: dang, you are right ... bad memory ...
[06:07] <Eleaf> yes.
[06:07] <fiendskull9> !splash
[06:07] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[06:08] <nickrud> harisund, or not really, he still needs to log in
[06:08] <harisund> Hmm..that is there too..
[06:08] <UbuntuAdvice> Hello, could anyone list the various ways of getting a USB modem to work with Ububtu ? Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm writing an article for the wiki abot this. Thanks
[06:08] <nickrud> does xdm have autologin?
[06:08] <harisund> Is he using xdm?
[06:08] <mauper> roy: right-click on a file and "open with" doesn't do the trick ?
[06:08] <Sven_vB> how do i configure the color of my ttys?
[06:09] <nickrud> xdm is only about a half meg installed
[06:09] <roy> mauper: yes it does, but I'm lazy and don't want to right-click all the time :p
[06:09] <fiendskull9> UbuntuAdvice, by having it running and plugged in whilst installing ubuntu.
[06:09] <Killgore> ill look into xdm, but i dont mind not having a graphical login
[06:10] <UbuntuAdvice> fiendskull9 : will that work for any / most / all usb modems ?
[06:10] <mauper> roy: you have a point there ... I thought it remembered the association ... hmmm ...
[06:10] <harisund> nickrud: Even if he had xdm, it would simply show a login screen, and not automatically log him in ..
[06:10] <nickrud> harisund, unless it has an autologin feature
[06:10] <fiendskull9> UbuntuAdvice, i beleive. it usually works for ALL usb devices. such as my logitech webcam.
[06:10] <UbuntuAdvice> fiendskull9  : can you get this working after installatio n?
[06:11] <fiendskull9> UbuntuAdvice, im sure you can config. one after installation.
[06:11] <fiendskull9> UbuntuAdvice, such as looking for drivers, and doing a modprobe/
[06:11] <roy> mauper: thanks anyway
[06:11] <harisund> I doubt it.. If I am not much mistaken with any form of Linux, it never auto logs in .. you will have to log in
[06:11] <mauper> roy: np ... wish I could only remember where I saw it ... sigh ...
[06:12] <UbuntuAdvice> I'll check into that, thanks. I thought you would have to insall drivers manually, depending on modem type.
[06:12] <harisund> And again, anywhere if you were to put a startx, every log in will do a startx, even if you try through SSH etc.
[06:12] <Xenguy> roy: nautilus  ?
[06:12] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, file manager
[06:12] <IdleOne> how long does it normaly take to rip a cd?
[06:12] <harisund> nickrud: Perhaps a script could execute startx, by first checking if a Xsession is allready in progress or not
[06:13] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: yes
[06:13] <Xenguy> roy: I don't have gnome running ATM unfortunately
[06:13] <nickrud> harisund, yes, there's probably something that could be written ...
[06:13] <Killgore> i guess im happy with the way it is now
[06:13] <Xenguy> roy: either that or look somewhere under Places
[06:13] <roy> Xenguy: sorry, I'm kind of a newbie here, what's a nautilus?
[06:14] <Xenguy> roy: file manager
[06:14] <Xenguy> roy: Alt-F2 and type nautilus
[06:15] <harisund> Otherwise nickrud, if a startx is added at the end of .bashrc or something, every login would try and execute a startx, even if you do so through ssh
[06:15] <roy> Xenguy: that's the file manager I'm using, couldn't find it in the prefs there either
[06:15] <Xenguy> roy: either that or look somewhere under Places
[06:15] <JRlinux> I understood that Dapper live would run Broadcom wireless.  But it doesn't run my BCM4318.  Anyone know why not?
[06:15] <harisund> so Killgore, either you would have to write a script that checks if an xsession is already running (and if not "startx")
[06:16] <systemofadown> anyone here have an ipod
[06:16] <harisund> Or manually do a "startx &"
[06:16] <nickrud> harisund, yes, I think that is the point of all this :)
[06:16] <Xenguy> roy: mauper is right, it can be done, but perhaps memory is failing ATM
[06:16] <Steil> JRlinux: You need broadcom firmware
[06:16] <Killgore> harisund: would bashrc call that script at the very end? ie where i just put startx
[06:16] <Steil> systemofadown: I have a shuffle
[06:17] <systemofadown> Steil, do you use gtkpod?
[06:17] <harisund> Killgore: Typically it would do that, but the problem is everytime .bashrc is called, it would try and do a startx again
[06:17] <Xenguy> roy:  a bad hack: install krusader, right-click > Properties
[06:17] <Xenguy> roy:  if you get desperate ;-)
[06:17] <Killgore> Steil: i found a great python script to update the shuffles music database
[06:17] <JRlinux> Steil, firmware.  Sorry, I don't understand.
[06:17] <nickrud> Killgore, until you decide, you could use startx 2> /dev/null  to not see the error
[06:17] <IamEthos> I'm trying to resize a partition
[06:17] <IamEthos> using GParted
[06:17] <Steil> systemofadown: I used to, but now I use either banshee or amarok
[06:17] <IamEthos> and it's just not working
[06:17] <IamEthos> any ideas?
[06:18] <Xenguy> !not working
[06:18] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:18] <Killgore> nickrud: just add that stuff after startx?
[06:18] <roy> Xenguy: well, I'll dig around a bit more, it's probably here somewhere :p
[06:18] <Killgore> nickrud: can you explain what it does? might as well learn now
[06:18] <Xenguy> roy: nod
[06:18] <systemofadown> Steil, do you have any ideas how i can have itunes not delete files i upload with gtkpod
[06:18] <IamEthos> lol
[06:18] <IamEthos> sorry
[06:18] <nickrud> Killgore, yes, that sends any error messages to the bit bucket
[06:18] <IamEthos> but really, there's not much more to it
[06:18] <IamEthos> a status bar comes up
[06:19] <Steil> systemofadown: not really...itunes typically deletes everything not in your local database
[06:19] <IamEthos> and bounces back and forth
[06:19] <nickrud> Killgore, for more, man bash & search for redirect
[06:19] <IamEthos> and says the changes are being applied.
[06:19] <Steil> Killgore: have a link to the script?
[06:19] <systemofadown> Steil, great
[06:19] <Killgore> Steil: hang on
[06:19] <IamEthos> and an error message comes up that says "Be aware that the failure to apply this operation could affect ohter operations on the list.
[06:20] <Killgore> Steil: here you go, http://shuffle-db.sourceforge.net/
[06:20] <drew> I'm trying to make a boot script interactive and #!/bin/bash -i doesn't seem to work... any ideas?
[06:21] <majd> Hey, i just ran vncviewer (i didn't even know it was installed on my computer
[06:21] <CNAP> any suggestions for a good bit torrent client?
[06:21] <majd> how do i run it? i just clicked on the icon and it gave me a textbox...i have no idea what to put in
[06:21] <Sven_vB> can i make bash execute a script whenever a user logs out from a TTY? e.g. clear the screen
[06:22] <drew> majd: do you know what VNC is?
[06:22] <majd> yeah
[06:22] <majd> i think
[06:22] <nickrud> Sven_vB, you can use .bash_logout in your home directory
[06:22] <majd> access a computer from another computer
[06:22] <Xenguy> Sven_vB: ~/.logout  ?
[06:22] <IamEthos> what's the process name for gparted?
[06:22] <Xenguy> Sven_vB: what nickrud said
[06:22] <fluvvell> majd, you just put vncviewer 0.0.0.0 where the number is the ip address you are looking for
[06:22] <_jason> majd: ~/.bash_logout
[06:23] <Sven_vB> i want it for all users. i have created /etc/bash_logout according to "man bash", but it does not work.
[06:23] <drew> majd: yeah, that's right. you type the hostname or IP address of the machine (running a vnc server) you'd like to log into
[06:23] <JRlinux> Sven_vB, you might try #bash
[06:23] <Killgore> majd: make sure that computer is running a VNC server otherwise nothing will happen
[06:24] <drew> majd: gnome can run a vnc server my default (System > Preferences > Remote Desktop)
[06:24] <majd> oh ok
[06:24] <Davey> drew: does that work with Xgl btw? :)
[06:24] <Killgore> Davey: i assume it will be a lot more sluggish
[06:24] <drew> Davey: haven't tried. should do.
[06:25] <majd> can i access my computer from a windows machine through lan/internet?
[06:25] <nickrud> Sven_vB, that should be /etc/bash.logout
[06:25] <drew> majd: yep. I was doing it all the time when I was living on campus at uni
[06:26] <Killgore> majd: that is one of the main features of VNC
[06:26] <Killgore> drew: what uni were you at?
[06:26] <Tedd> Can someone help me make something not-read-only?
[06:26] <Tedd> It's a FreeBSD iso
[06:26] <Tedd> I copied it from my other hdd and it's got the lock symbol
[06:27] <drew> majd: I compressed (with upx) the win32 vncviewer here: http://athene.csu.edu.au/~akerr09/files/vncviewer.exe
[06:27] <Tedd> What would the CHMod command be?
[06:27] <Madpilot> Tedd, right-click on it, check the permissions
[06:27] <drew> Killgore: Charles Sturt Uni, Wagga Wagga, Australia.
[06:27] <Tedd> Madpilot, I can do that with the GUI?
[06:27] <Tedd> Hum.
[06:27] <Killgore> chmod 777 will make it read-write-execture
[06:27] <Madpilot> Tedd, you should be able to
[06:27] <majd> thanks drew
[06:27] <Tedd> Madpilot, thanks
[06:28] <drew> majd: that's the tiniest vncviewer around
[06:28] <Killgore> Tedd: i found i could only change the permissions if i started nautilus with sudo
[06:28] <RemyLaptop> !dapper
[06:28] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:28] <drew> majd: you can even tunnel vnc through ssh to secure it or get through firewalls (that's what I had to do)
[06:28] <Tedd> Killgore, worked fine for me
[06:29] <drew> majd: but it gets complicated!
[06:29] <nickrud> Killgore, that's because you didn't own the file you were trying to change the permissions for
[06:29] <Madpilot> Killgore, if the file is owned by root, that'll be true. If it's owned by $USER, Nautilus w/o root should be fine
[06:29] <Tedd> Later kids
[06:29] <Killgore> mkay then
[06:29] <IamEthos> hey
[06:29] <IamEthos> so I tried it again
[06:30] <Killgore> majd: i found TightVNC is a great win32 VNC server
[06:30] <majd> drew, it's not as easy as typin in my IP?
[06:30] <IamEthos> (I had forgotten to swapoff my swap partition first)
[06:30] <majd> what about realvnc?
[06:30] <IamEthos> and still no dice
[06:30] <IamEthos> this time it went a little further
[06:30] <Sven_vB> nickrud: i have tried bash.logout, it did not work either
[06:30] <IamEthos> ran fs2ck for a while
[06:30] <IamEthos> and then nothing
[06:31] <Killgore> majd: yes those are the main 2 VNC servers
[06:31] <nickrud> Sven_vB, then #bash it is :)  I just doublechecked the bash man page for the file name
[06:31] <drew> majd: oh it usually is, I just had some tricky curcumstances with some firewalls...
[06:31] <Xenguy> majd: you should definitely tunnel vnc thru ssh.  Also, depending on your needs, 'x11vnc' is worth a look
[06:31] <Killgore> majd: yeah SSH is fun
[06:31] <Eleaf> What!?!?!
[06:32] <drew> majd: gnome's vino server works well out of the box
[06:32] <Eleaf> Why did the ubuntuforums get rid of that fancy color scheme?!
[06:32] <Killgore> im rick james bitch
[06:32] <Eleaf> Who did this?!
[06:32] <Xenguy> majd: for ssh tunneling, look for the '-via' option with, for example, tightvncviewer
[06:32] <Madpilot> Eleaf, because it was hideous? (and because April Fool's Day is over (in UTC, anyway) thank Dog...)
[06:32] <Killgore> Xenguy: but wouldnt there have to be an SSH server on the host computer?
[06:33] <majd> well i only need to control my mouse and keyboard on my other computer
[06:33] <Eleaf> Madpilot, that's horrible.  I wanna stand up for this horribleness.  Those were incredible colors.
[06:33] <drew> majd: on windows the best ssh tool is putty, which can forward vnc ports and such...
[06:33] <Xenguy> Killgore: yep
[06:33] <IdleOne> can someone give me a hand with my USB mp3 player..I want to upload some mp3's to it but I dont not know where it is or how to access it ?
[06:33] <Eleaf> Madpilot, who can I contact to fix back the colors to normal goodness?
[06:33] <IdleOne> s/dont/do
[06:33] <Eleaf> lol
[06:33] <Killgore> IdleOne: just plug it in? what happens then
[06:33] <Madpilot> IdleOne, send it to me, I'll sort it out and get it back to you (eventually...) :P
[06:33] <IdleOne> Killgore, nothing that I can see
[06:34] <Killgore> IdleOne: it will probably be in /media/usb
[06:34] <majd> i gotta do some reading...i don't even know what ssh is or what it's doing
[06:34] <Madpilot> !ssh
[06:34] <ubotu> hmm... ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[06:34] <Killgore> majd: what is it exactly that you want to do?
[06:34] <majd> Killgore, get some work done on my laptop while watching TV
[06:34] <th0un> hey how do you search for a particular file in a filesystem @ a prompt?
[06:34] <Xenguy> majd: you want ssh; indispensible :-)
[06:34] <majd> just need mouse and keyboard
[06:34] <Xenguy> th0un: locate or find
[06:35] <IdleOne> Killgore,  cd /media/usb
[06:35] <IdleOne>  bash: cd: /media/usb: No such file or directory
[06:35] <Xenguy> th0un: sudo updatedb && locate file
[06:35] <daniel3333> anyone know how to setup the myth tv backend and ip address
[06:35] <Killgore> majd: so you are on your laptop in front of your tv? then you probably just need vnc
[06:35] <Xenguy> th0un: or, sudo find / -iname filename
[06:36] <Killgore> IdleOne: open nautilus and navigate there and open the folder that looks like it could be the usb device
[06:36] <nickrud> th0un, or places->search for files
[06:36] <majd> Killgore, i'd hope so...i just need something like www.logmein.com but for linux
[06:36] <Xenguy> nickrud: heh, right, the gui, doh
[06:37] <vinboy> I could ping 192.168.0.1 (the gateway) but not anything else on the net
[06:37] <nickrud> Xenguy, but, I see (after writing) that th0un said,  @ a prompt (doh)
[06:37] <vinboy> and I tried to connect to the yahoo's ip but didn't work
[06:37] <vinboy> any idea?
[06:37] <IdleOne> Killgore, I have cdrom cdrom0 floppy and floppy0 in the /media folder
[06:37] <majd> wow
[06:37] <majd> it worked
[06:37] <Xenguy> th0un: my suggestions are command-line; nickrud has the gui solution
[06:37] <majd> it's really low quality though
[06:37] <Xenguy> nickrud: oh
[06:37] <majd> and there are scroll bars
[06:37] <Xenguy> nickrud: gah, it must be getting late for my poor brain :-)
[06:37] <nickrud> Xenguy, so you win by default :)
[06:37] <Killgore> IdleOne: ubuntu usually automounts things when you put them in
[06:38] <Xenguy> nickrud: mwaha ;-)
[06:38] <th0un> Xenguy: so to search for the fils islpci_dev.c in / you would type in find islpci_dev.c /    ?
[06:38] <vinboy> which mean i'm connected to the gateway machine but not to the net
[06:38] <vinboy> the gateway machine is connected to the net
[06:38] <IdleOne> Killgore, lsusb list 3 devices one is my mouse the other is what I think might be the mp3 player and the third I dont know
[06:38] <majd> it has patches of good quality...but the rest is reallllll crappy
[06:38] <overrider> is it possible with an internal dns server to have local boxes, say 1.mydomain.com and 2.mydomain.com, and then have a few boxes which are on dynamic ip`s somewhere on the internet? i guess what i need bind to do is to forward the request when it cant find the box..
[06:39] <AngryElf> where do the logs go from process run from /etc/rc2.d/?
[06:39] <Xenguy> th0un: find / filename <-- might work; find / -iname filename <-- definitely works.  Try a test :-)
[06:39] <Killgore> IdleOne: you could try mounting it automatically
[06:39] <majd> it's like...i have to move it/press it/resize it to get it high quality
[06:39] <Killgore> IdleOne: manually
[06:39] <IdleOne> Killgore, how do I do that?
[06:39] <nickrud> AngryElf, /var/log/syslog will have whatever's available
[06:40] <Killgore> IdleOne: first we need a folder to mount it in
[06:40] <Killgore> IdleOne: sudo mkdir /media/Mp3Player
[06:40] <Xnos> hi i have a dell inspiron 6400 with dapper, but when play videos, it play slowly
[06:40] <Killgore> IdleOne: then the mounting begins
[06:40] <IdleOne> ok folder made
[06:40] <Killgore> IdleOne: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/Mp3Player
[06:40] <nickrud> AngryElf, a lot will just go into the ether
[06:41] <Xenguy> th0un: the '/' tells find where to start; if you want to start in the current directory, then use '.' instead
[06:41] <IdleOne> Killgore, done
[06:41] <[muttox] > anyone here tried getting Xgl running on dapper?
[06:41] <Killgore> IdleOne: did it give you any error messages?
[06:41] <IdleOne> !xgl
[06:41] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:41] <IdleOne> Killgore, none
[06:41] <[muttox] > yeah been there
[06:41] <[muttox] > followed everything
[06:41] <[muttox] > doesnt do anything :P
[06:42] <IdleOne> #xgl-ubuntu
[06:42] <Killgore> IdleOne: you should be able to do cd /media/Mp3Player then
[06:42] <IdleOne> Killgore, yup
[06:42] <Xenguy> [muttox] : /join #ubuntu+1
[06:42] <majd> there's no way to hook up my pocket pc to my ubuntu right?
[06:42] <[muttox] > ta
[06:43] <Killgore> IdleOne: so can you see all your files then?
[06:43] <IdleOne> Killgore, yes
[06:43] <Killgore> IdleOne: now just move things via nautilus
[06:43] <IdleOne> Killgore, ty
[06:43] <AngryElf> i wrote a script that i stuck in /etc/rc2.d/  part of it does one thing......that is working......another part....which starts up lircd doesn't work.......if i get into X and then run the script again -- everything works.....why would it do that???
[06:43] <Killgore> IdleOne: im not sure y it didnt automount tho
[06:44] <IdleOne> Killgore, not sure but this will do for now
[06:46] <nickrud> AngryElf, not a clue, but you could add some echo <somestuff> >> errorfile to see what's going on
[06:47] <rob_p> AngryElf: You might try just changing the starting priority to something lower (higher number) to see if that helps.  I've had startup scripts that only worked after adjusting their starting priority.
[06:47] <IamEthos> can anyone suggest why resizing a partition might fail?
[06:47] <IamEthos> it keeps failing
[06:47] <IamEthos> and I have no idea why
[06:47] <nickrud> AngryElf, or do what rob_p said :)
[06:47] <rob> hehe
[06:47] <IamEthos> PM and GParted both didn't give me any information about why
[06:47] <Killgore> nickrud: i cant run any terminals now!!!
[06:48] <nickrud> Killgore, why am I not suprised
[06:48] <Killgore> nickrud: because nothing in linux is simple :P
[06:48] <nickrud> Killgore, try hitting ctl-c in one of the terminals
[06:48] <Killgore> yer
[06:49] <nickrud> Killgore, but it is, it is :P
[06:49] <Killgore> xinit: unecpected signal 2
[06:49] <nickrud> Killgore, did you get back the prompt?
[06:49] <Killgore> hmm thats crap i dont want to have to do that every time
[06:49] <Killgore> nickrud: yeah
[06:50] <nickrud> Killgore, you're gonna have to write a script to see if X is already running, probably some other error checking, maybe just logging in is simpler
[06:50] <Killgore> probably
[06:50] <Killgore> sign
[06:51] <ricardo> a kernel question: I can't start in vga=0x317 in custom kernel, what is missing?
[06:51] <SpookyET> I asked earlier about multilingual openoffice documents
[06:51] <SpookyET> I found the answer.
[06:51] <SpookyET> It's burried.
[06:51] <SpookyET> it sucks
[06:51] <Killgore> nickrud: could i be missing anything from my server install that would stop me from mounting things?
[06:51] <SpookyET> select the text, right click select "Character"
[06:51] <SpookyET> then you'll see a dropdown
[06:51] <SpookyET> bah
[06:52] <Killgore> nickrud: because when i mount my ipod it says the folder i mounted it in is empty
[06:52] <nickrud> Killgore, ipods are not something I know anything about. I see lots of people here asking similar questions, though.
[06:52] <Killgore> nickrud: imagine its a Flash drive then :P
[06:53] <ddonky> Killgore - reboot with the ipod in the dock, or plugged in to the usb
[06:53] <UbuntuAdvice> I've just quickly added a page "Connecting to Internet" to the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetHowto . Just in case anyone is feeling up to correcting / completing...
[06:53] <harisund> nickrud: sorry to bother you again, but how do I get w32codecs? What is the repository?
[06:54] <Killgore> ddonky: ok but what if i need to plug it in after ive booted up?
[06:54] <nickrud> harisund, go here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[06:54] <harisund> oh restricted formats.. ok .. thanks a lot again
[06:54] <rob_p> Killgore:  Are you sure it's being mounted?  It sounds to me like it doesn't get mounted, hence the mount point shows empty.  Check /etc/mtab after mounting it.  If there's no entry for it, then it didn't get mounted.  Check your syslog for clues as to why.
[06:54] <Killgore> thanks
[06:56] <Killgore> rob_p: what will it be listed as in mtab?
[06:56] <Killgore> rob_p: and tail syslog?
[06:56] <ddonky> Killgore - I suggested a troubleshooting step, that's all. I don't really know how to answer your question. I guess you plug it in after you've booted up then.
[06:58] <rob_p> Killgore:  It should list the block device and then the mount point.  And yes, tail /var/log/messages or tail /var/log/syslog should help.
[06:58] <Stargazers> Hi. "Disablin IRQ #14. Try bootin with irqpoll option" <--- What is this? What does it means?
[06:58] <Stargazers> And why it says something like that on Breezy
[06:58] <Stargazers> On kernel 10-12-386
[07:00] <Killgore> rob_p: i cant see it in mtab but syslog and messages seem to indicate it has been mounted properly
[07:00] <Codename_V> Killgore: whats df say?
[07:01] <Codename_V> Stargazers: I wouldn't worry too much about it unless something doesn't work.
[07:01] <Stargazers> Well, it seems that it wont boot
[07:01] <Stargazers> At least it says it over 10x
[07:01] <Stargazers> And boot is still going on...
[07:01] <Killgore> Codename_V: doesnt list any dev/sda1
[07:02] <farous> hi all
[07:03] <Stargazers> Hi
[07:03] <Codename_V> Killgore: so wait, what makes you think it's mounted again?
[07:03] <Killgore> Codename_V: the things in messages and syslog
[07:03] <Killgore> Codename_V: i could be reading them wrong tho
[07:04] <Codename_V> stardash: dunno.  guess I'd try a nacip or something or whatever that irqpoll thing it's talking about with grub.
[07:04] <Codename_V> Killgore: such as?
[07:04] <Codename_V> Killgore: what I really meant though, did you run the mount command or something?  if so, what did it spit out?
[07:05] <Killgore> Codename_V: the mount command runs as if it has been mounted succesfully ie no error messages but when i look in the folder it is empty
[07:05] <Codename_V> Killgore: what's dmesg say?
[07:05] <Stargazers> How I can use irqpoll option?
[07:05] <Killgore> what part?
[07:05] <Killgore> there is a lot
[07:05] <IdleOne> Killgore, how do I make /media/Mp3Player read/write?
[07:05] <Toma-> pastebin ftw
[07:06] <Codename_V> Stargazers: beats me.  the thing still isn't booting though?
[07:06] <Stargazers> Yep
[07:06] <ricardo> a kernel question: I can't start in vga=0x317 in custom kernel, what is missing?
[07:06] <Stargazers> I can't boot...
[07:06] <Stargazers> It just says that error over and over again
[07:07] <Killgore> Codename_V: ok that made all my files come up
[07:07] <Toma-> ricardo: usplash
[07:07] <Killgore> IdleOne: uhh
[07:07] <Codename_V> Stargazers: looks like you just append an irqpoll on the end of your kernel line at the grub prompt.  or is this the boot cd we're talking?
[07:07] <Codename_V> Killgore: say what?  what made all your files come up?
[07:08] <Stargazers> Well, I just made apt-get update & dist-upgrade. It upated my kernel and after that it says that. But if I try older kernel - No problems
[07:08] <Stargazers> So how I can enable "irqpoll"?
[07:08] <IdleOne> Killgore, i cant copy over the files I want to the media player
[07:08] <Stargazers> On grub somehow?
[07:08] <Codename_V> Stargazers: so yeah, at the grub prompt.  I just told you.  you append "irqpoll" to the kernel line.
[07:09] <Stargazers> On kernel line?
[07:09] <Stargazers> What is "kernel line"?
[07:09] <Stargazers> First I must press "e" for edit?
[07:09] <Killgore> Codename_V: after i ran dsmeg i can now see the files that are on the ipod
[07:09] <Codename_V> Stargazers: you hit e (for edit I guess).  head to the kernel line.  hit e again.  append an irqpoll.  hit b for boot.  you're set.
[07:09] <Codename_V> Killgore: well that makes no sense.  but ok.
[07:09] <Killgore> IdleOne: umm im not really sure what to do
[07:09] <Killgore> Codename_V: lol im happy tho
[07:10] <Stargazers> Oh, ok. Have to try.
[07:10] <Codename_V> IdleOne: you have an mp3 player mounted or something and you want to copy files to it?  what makes you think it's mounted read write?
[07:10] <Killgore> IdleOne: im having the same problem
[07:10] <IdleOne> Codename_V, I want to be able to copy files to my media player but it isnt letting me
[07:11] <ubuntu> whatz up
[07:11] <Codename_V> IdleOne: what's the relavent output of "mount" say?
[07:11] <IdleOne> Codename_V, ????
[07:11] <Killgore> Codename_V: mtab suggests it is mounted as rw
[07:12] <Stargazers> Oh hell yeah, at least it skipped that part when it last crashed. Thank you very much, Codename_V
[07:12] <ipfw> !root
[07:12] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:12] <rishi> sup all
[07:12] <Codename_V> IdleOne: I'm going to take a wild guess here and assume it's mounted read write but only root has permissions because it's a fat filesystem.  that means either mount it so users can read/write or copy stuff as root.
[07:12] <Eleaf> Is anybody familiar with the workings of the livecd?
[07:12] <Stargazers> Can I ask you one question still? What is that irqpoll thing anyway?
[07:12] <IdleOne> Codename_V, usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[07:12] <rishi> Can i get updated to Flight 6 via the updater thing in Flight 5?
[07:12] <IdleOne> Codename_V, how do I mount it so users can read/write?
[07:13] <Codename_V> hmm.  odd.  usbfs.  new one to me.  anyway, it's mounted read/write.  perhaps it's similar to vfat though where only root can write to it unless you specify otherwise.
[07:13] <jin> i need help!
[07:13] <Codename_V> IdleOne: you'd need to check the mount man page for that.  specifically the section on usbfs.  I certainly couldn't tell ya off the top of my head anyhow.
[07:14] <jin> i installed a nvidia geforce in my comp and i get an error when i boot up
[07:14] <Codename_V> IdleOne: looks like you want to pass devmode=666 actually.
[07:14] <Eleaf> I need information on the build process of the ubuntu livecd!
[07:14] <Eleaf> yes.
[07:14] <Codename_V> IdleOne: or like I say, just copy stuff as root.
[07:14] <Killgore> Codename_V: yes all the files on the ipod are owned by root
[07:14] <seth> anyone have a Broadcom 4306 successfully working with the bcm43xx stuff? (not ndiswrapper)
[07:15] <root> hello i need help with forewall
[07:15] <nickrud> jin, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:15] <jin> k
[07:15] <rishi> yeah, i was gonna say
[07:15] <Codename_V> Killgore: something along the lines of this would help (assuming yours is usbfs too): mount -o devmode=666 /dev/foo /mnt/someplace
[07:16] <root> how to start automaticlly in boot my script
[07:16] <root> ?
[07:16] <Killgore> Codename_V: i was trying that ther other night but couldnt get it to work. Should it be 777?
[07:16] <rishi> yeah, i was gonna say
[07:16] <Kyral> root, don't run IRC as root
[07:16] <rishi> Hey, Can i get updated to Flight 6 via the updater thing in Flight 5?
[07:17] <Codename_V> Killgore: maybe.  or maybe just devuid=bob or whatever.
[07:17] <nickrud> rishi, just run sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:17] <Codename_V> Kyral: what if it's mirc?
[07:17] <Kyral> Codename_V: ahh nevermind.,....
[07:17] <Codename_V> =)
[07:17] <Killgore> Codename_V: lol when i add that option in and it doesnt mount anymore
[07:17] <Killgore> Codename_V: ill just copy stuff as root
[07:17] <Codename_V> I'm just saying, I'd feel pretty safe about running mirc as root.
[07:18] <Codename_V> Killgore: well is yours even usbfs?
[07:18] <Killgore> vfat
[07:18] <Killgore> i added in -t vfat
[07:18] <nomad111> hi every1 i just installed how do i update everything and get the new kernel
[07:18] <Codename_V> Killgore: well yeah, then you'd want something along the lines of this: mount -t vfat -o umask=666 /dev/foo /mnt/bar
[07:18] <root> Kyral; hoe to change my user vname
[07:19] <Eleaf> Where is the hostname and username set in the livecd??
[07:19] <Killgore> Codename_V: is there a differnce between fat and fat32? in the mount options
[07:19] <root> Kyral; how to change my user name
[07:19] <tyche> Hey everyone.
[07:19] <Eleaf> root, /nick newname
[07:19] <Codename_V> Killgore: beats me, but if you say vfat then fat32 would be the default I would hope.  so there wouldn't be any need.
[07:19] <nickrud> nomad111, first complete the link ubotu's about to mention, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:20] <Killgore> Codename_V: yeah the man page only lists vfat
[07:20] <jin> does 2560kb = 256mb????
[07:20] <Killgore> nope
[07:20] <Stargazers> jin: Nope
[07:20] <Shukhrat> how to start automaticlly in boot my script
[07:20] <Killgore> 2,5mb
[07:20] <jin> 2 more 0 right
[07:20] <nickrud> !repos
[07:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:20] <tyche> I'm hoping there are some network card gurus here.
[07:20] <rishi> jin
[07:20] <nomad111> nickrud, where is the link
[07:20] <rishi> just leave that blank
[07:20] <jin> yea
[07:20] <nickrud> nomad111, just above :)
[07:20] <rishi> it will automatically figure it out
[07:20] <jin> ooo
[07:21] <nomad111> nickrud, ill hav a look
[07:21] <tyche> I have a IBM laptop with a xircom card, the device manager shows it there and knows what type of card it is...but no internet connectivity.
[07:21] <Shukhrat> i have script how run it in boot time ?
[07:21] <nickrud> jin, and for later, 256MB = 256*1024KB
[07:21] <Codename_V> Shukhrat: /etc/inittab controls what init runs
[07:22] <Codename_V> Shukhrat: hehe, that would be the long way of going about things though.  I'm not altogether familiar with debian, but I'll take a wild guess and say /etc/rc.d/rc.local.  if you have that file, throw things in there.
[07:23] <Shukhrat> Codename_V: i have Deian
[07:23] <tyche> Does having IP6 running cause any issues if I'm not using it?
[07:23] <Shukhrat> Codename_V: i have Debian
[07:23] <nickrud> Codename_V, that doesn't exist in breezy (it's /etc/rc.local in dapper)
[07:23] <Codename_V> nickrud: alrighty.  so there ya go Shukhrat.  /etc/rc.local.
[07:24] <Shukhrat> i have script how run it in boot time ? please help
[07:24] <nomad111> nickrud, say a new version of firefox is out how do i replace it with the old version is there a command
[07:24] <Codename_V> Shukhrat: uh...didn't we just go over that?
[07:25] <nickrud> Shukhrat, put it in /etc/init.d , then type sudo update-rc.d <name of script> defaults 99
[07:25] <GNU_Style> whos on pclinuxos here?
[07:25] <nickrud> !tell nomad111 about ff1.5
[07:25] <minerale> dude, installing AMD64 version was a huge mistake... I can't view any videos at all
[07:25] <nickrud> nomad111, you should have a pm from ubotu
[07:25] <Shukhrat> nickrud: it will start auto. in boot time
[07:25] <Shukhrat> ?
[07:25] <Codename_V> GNU_Style: lay off the crack please
[07:25] <nickrud> Shukhrat, yes
[07:25] <nomad111> nickrud, ye i just got it thx
[07:26] <tyche> The only compatible network card list was pretty small...does anyone have an extensive list of PC Card network cards that will work with Ubuntu?
[07:26] <GNU_Style> Codename_V: what are you refering as a CRACK?
[07:26] <minerale> GNU_Style: You just entered a christian church and asked for people who are reading the Koran
[07:27] <Killgore> lol
[07:27] <dli> is www.ubuntu.com also available in other language? in Chinese, say
[07:27] <Eleaf> yes dli
[07:27] <dli> Eleaf, what's the link? how to find it?
[07:27] <freestone> Hi - Whats the URL for the Paste website?
[07:27] <nickrud> !paste
[07:27] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:28] <GNU_Style> can I run ghost recon on linux?
[07:28] <Codename_V> dli: I'd probably look into red flag if I was chinese though.  least my coworkers seem to like it.
[07:28] <Killgore> Codename_V: i found it
[07:28] <Codename_V> GNU_Style: depends.
[07:28] <Killgore> Codename_V: u use -o uid=your username
[07:28] <nomad111> !tellme grub
[07:28] <GNU_Style> wine can do the trick or I need cedega?
[07:28] <Codename_V> Killgore: sure, that would work too.
[07:28] <Eleaf> dli, you can download localized versions from the download page...
[07:28] <dli> Codename_V, red flag sucks
[07:28] <rishi> !tell me bittorrent
[07:28] <nomad111> !tellme boot
[07:28] <Codename_V> dli: alrighty.  =)
[07:28] <Eleaf> dli, actually, on install you can choose your language
[07:29] <dli> Codename_V, it reminds me of communists
[07:29] <rishi> !tell me about bittorrent
[07:29] <nomad111> nickrud, are u familiar with livna repository
[07:29] <tyche> can people at least see my messages?
[07:29] <nickrud> nomad111, not at all
[07:29] <nomad111> nickrud, k its for fedora
[07:29] <nickrud> tyche, yes
[07:29] <nickrud> nomad111, ew ;)
[07:29] <nomad111> nickrud, lol
[07:30] <nomad111> nickrud, thats why i just installed ubuntu
[07:30] <nomad111> but it looks harder than fc5
[07:30] <dli> Eleaf, www.debian.org has a Chinese version http://www.us.debian.org/index.zh-cn.html
[07:30] <nickrud> nomad111, rpmfind whas what chased me to debian
[07:30] <Eleaf> dli, ok..
[07:30] <Eleaf> dli, you mean a different language of ubuntu.org?
[07:30] <nomad111> wat does that do
[07:30] <Eleaf> dli, or do you mean the language of the operating system?
[07:30] <Codename_V> nickrud: don't spread rpm fud here or I'll call ya on it man.
[07:31] <dli> Eleaf, yes, I'm talking about the website, not the distribution itself
[07:31] <Eleaf> ohj
[07:31] <nomad111> wat does it do 'rpmfind'
[07:31] <Codename_V> nomad111: it's a website
[07:31] <nickrud> nomad111, it was the place you went to find rpms before there was yum or anything like that. Codename_V not fud, just personal experience about 5 years ago.
[07:31] <nomad111> well im thinking of installing yum
[07:31] <nomad111> i dunno if its a good idea
[07:32] <nomad111> but im more familiar with it
[07:32] <freestone> nickrud: Thx
[07:32] <nomad111> compared to apt
[07:32] <nickrud> nomad111, try synaptic, it's a pretty decent gui frontend to apt
[07:32] <Codename_V> nomad111: or just learn apt.  the basics aren't too hard to get used to.
[07:32] <dli> nickrud, I heard they never got up2date work, yum was a response to the failure of up2date
[07:32] <nomad111> i prefer to learn how to use terminal though
[07:32] <Codename_V> dli: up2date works just fine on all my rhel machines.
[07:33] <Eleaf> dli, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/forums  there they have different languages of forums...  (I would assume that the main page would have different languages too though).
[07:33] <dli> Codename_V, by the Red Flag standard, maybe
[07:33] <nomad111> nickrud, is ubuntu a debian project or something
[07:33] <nickrud> !offtopc
[07:33] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[07:33] <Codename_V> dli: right...
[07:33] <nickrud> !offtopic
[07:33] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:33] <nomad111> nickrud, i really dunno wat i just asked
[07:33] <IamEthos> has anyone here gotten kxdocker to work in Ubuntu?
[07:33] <Madpilot> nomad111, yes, Ubuntu is a Debian deriv
[07:33] <IamEthos> *work properly...
[07:34] <Eleaf> dli, if you get rid of the forum part before.  it has the domains of some ubuntu localized sites. like ubuntu.de etc.
[07:34] <nomad111> ah k
[07:34] <dli> Eleaf, they should follow the debian way, the website itself should be available in your own language :(
[07:34] <nomad111> well im gonna reboot i just update my system
[07:34] <nickrud> nomad111, not a debian project, but it couldn't exist without debian
[07:34] <Eleaf> ubuntu-fi.org dli etc.
[07:36] <Eleaf> dli, I found this chinese one.  http://ubuntu.org.cn/  (not all the localized sites follow the same layout though.
[07:36] <dli> Eleaf, I think www.debian.org detects your language settings of your browser, and uses the language detected
[07:36] <Eleaf> I see.  cool.
[07:36] <eclipse_> hello
[07:37] <eclipse_> I installed a Wireless card trought ndiswripper
[07:37] <dli> Eleaf, I found it, http://www.ubuntu.org.tw/
[07:37] <eclipse_> Installed ndis drivers:
[07:37] <eclipse_> netbc564        driver present
[07:37] <Eleaf> cool dli
[07:37] <eclipse_> but when I does a IWCONFIG
[07:37] <eclipse_> it shows me nothing detected
[07:37] <eclipse_> no wireless extenctions..
[07:37] <eclipse_> what could I do ?
[07:38] <dli> Eleaf, anyway, it should be automatic in the future, since only n00bs are looking for localized pages
[07:38] <Eleaf> .olo
[07:39] <Killgore> lol
[07:40] <Killgore> aparantely my usb drive has -64 zetabytes free
[07:40] <Kyral> lol
[07:40] <Kyral> df -h now :D
[07:41] <pierre-> hello. How can i setup new environmental variables?
[07:42] <dli> pierre-, you may put in ~/.bashrc
[07:43] <Killgore> do you know what ive noticed? i cant unmount my ipod but if i pull it out there are no ill effects
[07:44] <logical_mark> does anyone here know how to mount my HighPoint RAID 5 card?
[07:44] <dt-oz-gc> pierre-, or .bash_profile or /etc/profile which are only run each login, not every time you get a new shell as is the case with .bashrc. It depends on how often the variable needs to be set.
[07:45] <Killgore> dt-oz-gc: so does that mean if i add startx to my .bash_profile it will only try to startx when i log in?
[07:45] <dt-oz-gc> Yes
[07:45] <Killgore> woot
[07:45] <Killgore> that solves my problem
[07:45] <Killgore> thanks
[07:46] <dt-oz-gc> ... but if you are running ubuntu as set up, this is unecessary, and not a good idea
[07:46] <pierre-> dli: thx, .bashrc works fine for me
[07:46] <Killgore> dt-oz-gc: im running X with blackbox because i did a server install
[07:46] <unL33Tn00b> Question:  If I have built a website on my own computer, how do I get MYSTUFF.com here name?
[07:46] <pierre-> dt-oz-gc: thx for explanation
[07:47] <dt-oz-gc> The way ubuntu is set up, x is already started and gdm is run under it to give you the graphical login screen
[07:47] <unL33Tn00b> For a dynamic IP address?
[07:47] <logical_mark> does anyone here know how to mount my HighPoint RAID 5 card?
[07:47] <Killgore> dt-oz-gc: well i start at a terminal so X isnt loaded yet
[07:47] <Akshunhiro> Hi All
[07:47] <Codename_V> unL33Tn00b: register a domain
[07:47] <Akshunhiro> I have a quick and simple question
[07:48] <Eleaf> hum
[07:48] <Akshunhiro> I am trying to run an install of ubuntu on an ext usb drive
[07:48] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: you can get free ones at .tk
[07:48] <Akshunhiro> and I googled it
[07:48] <alex_> hello
[07:48] <dt-oz-gc> oKtosiTe, killgore, then you might be better to have X started from the init.d, ie rcS.d directory, ie via system startup
[07:48] <Mickael> hello
[07:48] <Codename_V> unL33Tn00b: you'd need something like dyndns.org or whatever for an ip that's not static
[07:48] <Akshunhiro> and need to edit /mkinitramfs/modules and /mkinitramfs/mkinitramfs.conf
[07:48] <alex_> i cant seem to get x-chat to connect to esper.net
[07:48] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: but you need to get your website hosted. Does your ISP have any webspace support?
[07:48] <alex_> any idea?>
[07:49] <unL33Tn00b> Kilgore: Aha!  I was just there...But it asks me to input an addy...If I don't have one yet..how am I supposed to set up a domain?
[07:49] <unL33Tn00b> killgore Nope.
[07:49] <Akshunhiro> and I read to mount -tproc proc /target/proc, chroot /target and su
[07:49] <Akshunhiro> but it still says permission denied when I go to edit the files
[07:49] <Akshunhiro> can someone please fill me in
[07:49] <geniusvicks> how do you get java working in Mozilla
[07:49] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: once you get it hosted somewhere, it will be something like http://hostingcompany.com/username/website but you can put that in a .tk name
[07:50] <Mickael> Hello, I need your help for remove the zd1221 original driver of ubuntu. Can yoiu help me ?
[07:50] <Codename_V> geniusvicks: link to the plugin in your .mozilla/plugins folder or whatever.
[07:50] <unL33Tn00b> One can't host their own website?
[07:50] <pierre-> can i allow mounting drives for non-root users?
[07:50] <geniusvicks> I did that but it ain't working
[07:50] <Killgore> dt-oz-gc: any particular reason why it would be better to start X from a runlevel rather than a bash profile?
[07:50] <dt-oz-gc> geniusvicks, good question. I cant get it to work in Firefox either, even thought java is installed
[07:50] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: It's not actually a website though.  It's an MU*.
[07:50] <Codename_V> unL33Tn00b: nevermind anything I just told ya guy...
[07:50] <_jason> pierre-: yes, use the 'user' option
[07:50] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: whats taht
[07:51] <pierre-> _jason: in 'mount' ?
[07:51] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: I have it compiled and so on, but I need people like you to be able to connect without typing XX.XXX.XXX.XX port XXXX
[07:51] <Killgore> ok
[07:51] <Killgore> thats easy
[07:51] <_jason> pierre-: in fstab, add ``user'' to the options column
[07:51] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: Game run using clients similar to telnet.
[07:51] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: are you on ubuntu? just checking
[07:51] <Akshunhiro> can nayone help me please
[07:51] <pierre-> _jason: thx
[07:52] <Mickael> Hello, I need your help for remove the zd1221 original driver of ubuntu. Can yoiu help me ?
[07:52] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: Ayup.  Dapper.
[07:52] <Lyajun> how to build a conlse project like "hello world!"in anjuda?
[07:52] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore MU* is a MUD, MUX, MUSH, or MOO.
[07:52] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: what would the permissions be on these particular files you're trying to edit?  what type of filesystem?  mounted how?
[07:52] <dli> Mickael, http://zd1211.ath.cx/
[07:52] <IamEthos> okay, is the bottom taskbar in Gnome stuck there?
[07:52] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: course I dunno why you'd need to mount proc and chroot just to edit a file.
[07:53] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: just edit away.  forget about that mounting proc and chroot stuff.
[07:53] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: well im on breezy but im sure it will be similar. You need a package called ddclient and to register at DynDNS
[07:53] <Akshunhiro> Codename_V I am a complete Linux nub and I am happy with Live ununtu but want to install to ext usb HD
[07:53] <Akshunhiro> I can't edit them at all
[07:53] <Akshunhiro> I have tried so many times
[07:53] <dt-oz-gc> killg, I dunno. 10 yrs ago I DID used to start it via .profile, as unix boxes did not have desktop configurations as default, and X was an 'addon'.
[07:54] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore Ok, I've been to DyDNS.  I registered there.  But they cost $$ and I'm a poor SoB. ;)
[07:54] <Akshunhiro> I read I have to do it by Alt Ctrl F2 after detecting Hardware in a rescue mode
[07:54] <Killgore> no
[07:54] <Killgore> its free
[07:54] <Akshunhiro> but it won't let me edit
[07:54] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: so again, what filesystem?  what files?  how's the file system mounted?  what are the permissions on the files?
[07:54] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: I'd be happy to search for a free one myself on google if you'll suggest the search peramiter?
[07:54] <dt-oz-gc> Killgore, Hmmm that was 20 years ago :-). Lord time flies.
[07:54] <Mickael> dli, thx, but i
[07:54] <fmasi> how do i change the default startup page os apache2
[07:55] <Akshunhiro> I don't know the permissions, the HD is autodetected
[07:55] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: no its free if you get some random domain name. For example mine is grahamr.homeip.net
[07:55] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: And I've noticed no major dif's between Breezy and Dapper thusfar.  (Also has Linux Bible 2006 in lap).
[07:55] <Akshunhiro> is it extf2 FS?
[07:55] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: run "mount" and find out.
[07:56] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: So if I have a free domain name, and DynDNS registered, then...
[07:56] <moonstone> Hi everyone!
[07:56] <Eleaf> hi
[07:56] <Akshunhiro> can I do that in live? would I be able to edit the files and have x chat open on Live?
[07:56] <moonstone> I need help with encode2mpeg program.
[07:56] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore ...?
[07:56] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: don't see why not.
[07:56] <Akshunhiro> ok brb
[07:56] <moonstone> Is there somekind of GUI for it?
[07:57] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: i have not done it on ubuntu so i wouldnt know the configuration steps
[07:57] <Codename_V> moonstone: I'd guess no.
[07:57] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: Hmm, where to get a free domain name then...
[07:57] <harisund> Does anybody here know how to switch of the monitor while in command line?
[07:57] <moonstone> Codename_V, ok... thanks
[07:57] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: but you will have to set up a prgram to update you computers IP address with the free domain name
[07:57] <fmasi> how do i change the default startup page os apache2
[07:58] <Codename_V> harisund: switch it off?
[07:58] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: ill log in and see where to go
[07:58] <Codename_V> harisund: the power button usually works.
[07:58] <harisund> fmasi, the default folder for apache2 is /var/www. Add a index.html and that is the start page.
[07:58] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: Basiicly I need to figure out how to get people to be able to connect to my computer without typing XXXX.XXX.XXX.XXX port XXXX (and type unl33t.com port 6666)
[07:58] <molinero> !sudo
[07:58] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:58] <harisund> Codename_V, I wish my monitor had a power button :-) I am using a laptop, you see.
[07:58] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore I DL'd a prog to do that...
[07:58] <rishi> i'm trying to play m4a media, and i installed the faad codec, but it only plays in VLC, any idea what's wrong?
[07:59] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: your not going to get unl33t.com unless you pay
[07:59] <Tidus> unL33Tn00b: go to http://www.dyndns.org and create an account... standard dyndns services which include a hostname are free
[07:59] <Codename_V> harisund: ah, gotcha.
[07:59] <harisund> Under X, I do "xset dpms force off" and that immediately switches off my monitor
[07:59] <pierre-> rishi: what's bad with VLC?
[07:59] <Codename_V> harisund: you can't just close the lid or something?
[07:59] <fmasi> harisund i what to get one of the meny sites in /var/ww to be the defaul page of apache how to do it
[07:59] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: ok log in and then click services
[07:59] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore I'd settle for 4$$h0le.com if I could figure out how to do it! ;)
[07:59] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: then DNS services
[07:59] <harisund> fmasi, the default page is always index.html, or index.php if you have one
[07:59] <fmasi> harisund since normaly it goes to apache2-default some thing
[08:00] <moonstone> Codename_V, how i can take image from dvd easily? Graveman-program does no make dvd-iso files, so do i just tell to bash cat /dev/hdc > movie.iso ?
[08:00] <fmasi> harisund i will check on that thx
[08:00] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: At DynDS.com?
[08:00] <liquidindian> Hi, has anyone ever had a USB drive change it's place in dev almost at random?
[08:00] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: yes. btw do you have a static or dynamic IP?
[08:00] <harisund> no no, in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, you will find a listing. You can change the /var/www to point to any directory you want (with appropriate permissions)
[08:00] <harisund> fmasi: no no, in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, you will find a listing. You can change the /var/www to point to any directory you want (with appropriate permissions)
[08:01] <Codename_V> moonstone: images?  hmm.  pause it and take a screen shot and then crop it?  I dunno.  sorry.
[08:01] <harisund> fmasi: But wherever you want apache to serve, index.html will always be default
[08:01] <fmasi> harisund thx very mutx
[08:01] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: To be honest I'm uncertain..(hence the name).  I'm going to guess Dynamic (as per the Linux Bible).
[08:01] <rob_p> moonstone:  use dd
[08:01] <rishi> i'm trying to play m4a media, and i installed the faad codec, but it only plays in VLC, any idea what's wrong?
[08:01] <liquidindian> ie from /dev/sdb1 to /dev/sda1 ?
[08:01] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: In fact, relatively certain.
[08:01] <Luzer> .
[08:01] <moonstone> rob_p, ok, thanks
[08:02] <harisund> unL33tn00b, do you have a cable connection? I believe it is from comcast.net?
[08:02] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: what kind of internet do you have
[08:02] <rob_p> moonstone:  dd if=/media/cdrom of=/some/file.iso
[08:02] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: you usually have to pay more for a static IP
[08:02] <unL33Tn00b> harissund Yep...
[08:02] <Killgore> on adsl
[08:02] <moonstone> rob_p, lets see.. moment
[08:02] <Killgore> cable is a static IP no?
[08:02] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: Cable from comcast.
[08:02] <harisund> If it is cable connection, it generally remains static, but technically it is not static.
[08:02] <harisund> I mean, occasionally it could change.
[08:03] <Codename_V> moonstone: hehe, ah.  those type of images.  yeah, I dunno about that with dvds.  because they're encrypted I don't think it's as simple as dd.  dvdrip was good for making little files I could watch on my hard drive though.  and a few other apps I can't think the names of.
[08:03] <Killgore> harisund: safer to go with a dynamic DNS then?
[08:03] <unL33Tn00b> killgore It's dynamic.  Bible says "If you didn't pay for it, and it's homeuse broadband...it's dynamic.
[08:03] <harisund> Yep. I had a similar setup.
[08:03] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: have you gotten to where i told you to go?
[08:03] <unL33Tn00b> killgore Oh yeah, logged in.
[08:04] <harisund> Yes, dynamic DNS is the best way. I used to use a service from no-ip.com, since it gave a Linux script to automatically update the DNS servers whenevr my IP address changes. But DynDNS is also another good service
[08:04] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: there should be a table with services that have prices and details
[08:04] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: DynDNS.com: logged in: myservices.
[08:05] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: dynamic DNS
[08:05] <IamEthos> someone make dapper come out sooner
[08:05] <gaz00> okay.
[08:05] <gaz00> since you asked.
[08:05] <gaz00> it's out now.
[08:05] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: Ayup.  I'm with you.
[08:05] <annie> I have 2 machines .. each running ubuntu. I want to move my home account from one to the other ... how do i do this ?
[08:05] <fmasi> harisund so what exacly sould i do whith the /etc/apache2/sites-available/default file i see that i could change the par that say RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/ is that it ?
[08:06] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: add Dynamic DNS
[08:06] <pierre-> i has some alias in bash
[08:06] <harisund> hang on fmasi
[08:06] <yellow35> hi
[08:06] <IamEthos> is it possible for me to use something from the Dapper repos with Breezy?
[08:06] <slavik> yo
[08:06] <slavik> IamEthos: no
[08:06] <molinero> !dapper
[08:06] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:06] <IamEthos> I didn't think so
[08:06] <unL33Tn00b> <--Needs to figure out how to send you guys a beer in the mail for everytime you guys help.  You make *nix so very worth it!
[08:06] <slavik> IamEthos: stuff in Dapper repos depends on newer packages
[08:06] <slavik> unL33Tn00b: where you live, I could come over ...
[08:07] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: so i guess you can take it from here?
[08:07] <slavik> funny thing is that GNU+Linux was designed to compete with Unix, not windows :D
[08:07] <Joetheodd> Seveas, you there?
[08:07] <unL33Tn00b> killgore:  Ok, it says hostname, IP (is that my actual IP?), Enable Wilcard, and Mailexchanger....
[08:07] <unL33Tn00b> slavik How do you know? ;)
[08:07] <IamEthos> does anyone know if there is an updated kxdocker package for Breezy?
[08:07] <pierre-> i has some alias in bash, and i want to make a button for running it on my gnome-panel. How can i do it?
[08:07] <Killgore> bugger i just closed it
[08:07] <harisund> fmasi, shall I pm you to help you configure apache2?
[08:07] <IdleOne> Killgore,  and Codename_V thanks for your help guys with the media player issues :)
[08:07] <rishi> Can somebody help me?  i'm trying to play m4a media, and i installed the faad codec, but it only plays in VLC, any idea what's wrong?
[08:07] <IamEthos> the one that comes with Breezy just doesn't seem to work
[08:08] <unL33Tn00b> slavik You *nix guru's frighten me.  But it would be worth the cost to have a guru on hand.
[08:08] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: the hostname is what you want it to be
[08:08] <fmasi> harisund yes pleas
[08:08] <jianwenp> first time coming here, sounds interesting
[08:08] <IamEthos> at least not with Gnome
[08:08] <unL33Tn00b> slavik :)
[08:08] <slavik> because if you look at the history of Linux, it was created because the license for Unix was crap... and it was expensive
[08:08] <annie> can anyone help a lost newbie ?
[08:08] <harisund> Yes slavik, that is what Torvalds wanted in the first place
[08:08] <slavik> unL33Tn00b: I am stating history
[08:08] <harisund> yes annie, what are you looking at?
[08:08] <slavik> harisund: it's what RMS wanted ... LT came after
[08:08] <unL33Tn00b> Killgore: CyberpunkAnarchy.com?
[08:08] <slavik> but at the right time :)
[08:08] <harisund> slavik: Oh, that's true actually.
[08:08] <annie>  I have 2 machines .. each running ubuntu. I want to move my home account from one to the other ... how do i do this ?
[08:09] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: let me open it back up again hang on a tick
[08:09] <unL33Tn00b> slavik: What do you mean?
[08:09] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: <nods>
[08:09] <harisund> annie: move your home account? What does that mean? Move everything in your home folder?
[08:09] <slavik> unL33Tn00b: RMS started making GNU tools (ls, cp, mv, and the rest)
[08:09] <fmasi> harisund i cant pms
[08:09] <pierre-> annie: maybe just copy your homedir ?
[08:09] <slavik> but they needed a kernel ... a good one
[08:09] <annie> yep .. selected files from mach 1 moved to mach 2
[08:09] <fmasi> harisund where sould i go to register in freenod
[08:09] <slavik> one they had sucked
[08:10] <slavik> then torvalds came with linux ...
[08:10] <harisund> fmasi: Ok don't bother. Anyway, are you editing /etc/apache2/sites-available/default?
[08:10] <harisund> fmasi: What is freenod?
[08:10] <unL33Tn00b> slavik I mean by "Where you live could come over...".  Or was that a quote?
[08:10] <IdleOne> !tell fmasi about register
[08:10] <harisund> unL33tn00b are you in Oregon?
[08:10] <slavik> oh, sure, why not?
[08:10] <slavik> I am in NYC
[08:10] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: ok the IP address doesnt matter atm because it will be updated later. Hostname well, the empty box can be what ever you want. BUT you have to choose a domain from the dropdown box
[08:10] <unL33Tn00b> harisund I am.  Damn you guys frighten n00bs like me. ;)
[08:10] <fmasi> harisund i dident change the file yet
[08:11] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: you can find out where anyone is
[08:11] <harisund> unL33tn00b, don't worry. :D
[08:11] <harisund> So what is freenod, fmasi ?
[08:11] <annie> harisund: yes, i want to move files from machine 1 to machine 2
[08:12] <fmasi> harisund freenode i mean the irc server
[08:12] <harisund> annie: First, are they both connected to the internet, or some form of a network?
[08:12] <annie> i have the 2 mach's connected by a crossover cable .. both ping'd ok
[08:12] <fmasi> harisund but back to apache2 sould i simply change the line RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/
[08:12] <harisund> fmasi: no no. here is what you do
[08:13] <harisund> fmasi: First, aroud the 5th line you will see "/var/www/"
[08:13] <fmasi> harisund i see it[
[08:13] <harisund> fmasi: Edit that to point to whatever you want, (without the quotes of course) and I believe it should end with a /.
[08:13] <fmasi> harisund ok going to try that
[08:13] <minerale> Anyone know of a proxy server for ubuntu? (or a fairly popular one I could download/compile) ?
[08:13] <harisund> fmasi: After that, around the 10th line, you will see it again, edit that to match exactly what you typed earlier
[08:14] <harisund> fmasi: And hey, you are editing it under sudo right?
[08:14] <dli> minerale, squid for http
[08:14] <Killgore> minerale: squid
[08:14] <nomad111> nickrud, can u teach me how to compile a tar package
[08:14] <Killgore> beat ya
[08:14] <Killgore> :P
[08:14] <fmasi> harisund i am the holy root lol
[08:14] <nomad111> wat are the general steps
[08:14] <minerale> Killgore: dli beat you actually
[08:14] <dli> nomad111, is there any .deb avaiable for the package
[08:14] <annie> harisund: i have the 2 mach's connected by a crossover cable .. both ping'd ok
[08:15] <Killgore> minerale: hmm i hate my stupid slow internet
[08:15] <nomad111> dli, no
[08:15] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: It created the hostame@blah.com I wanted...So now when I want peeps to be able to connect to my game box and play it will be that name and the port number and that's all I have to do?
[08:15] <fiendskull9> do u guys know of a filesystem type that is readable/writable by windows and linux?
[08:15] <slavik> so dapper looks to be fricking awesome
[08:15] <Killgore> like in those trivia chans
[08:15] <slavik> with wpa gui config and all
[08:15] <harisund> anne: oh cross over cable.. Hmm.. before that you might have to have some form of networking installed, such as either samba, ftp, or sshd
[08:15] <slavik> fiendskull9: FAT
[08:15] <nomad111> dli, this is wat i hav
[08:15] <dli> nomad111, untar it, in the source folder, look for README, INSTALL
[08:15] <nomad111> dli, octave-2.1.73.tar.gz
[08:15] <fiendskull9> slavik, windows wont read fat will it?
[08:15] <slavik> fiendskull9: FAT32
[08:15] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: no you will need some sort of program that updates the IP address of hostname@blah
[08:15] <GullyFoyle> fiendskull9: fat32 is r/w for windows/linux
[08:15] <dli> nomad111, octave should be in ubuntu
[08:15] <harisund> anne: could you connect any of the machines to internet?
[08:16] <slavik> fiendskull9: think about that for a moment
[08:16] <fiendskull9> GullyFoyle, so if i format my usb HD to fat32 i can write and read it in windows too?
[08:16] <michael> teach me to program in ubuntu, please, preferably in C++, or is it g++. Are they the same thing.
[08:16] <GullyFoyle> yup
[08:16] <annie> harisund: samba on machine 1 ... nothing on machine 2
[08:16] <unL33Tn00b> KIllgore: Ok, I think I have it from here then.  :)  You're ever in PDX, OR...Lemme know and I'd be happy to buy you a beer.
[08:16] <michael> I just need a pointer in the right direction
[08:16] <nomad111> dli, how do i change the default boot option
[08:17] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: check this link out first
[08:17] <nomad111> dli, i want to change to windows
[08:17] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: Or either of my cute gamer g33k roomies will... ;)
[08:17] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/dns-dynamic.htm
[08:17] <nomad111> dli, what file do i edit
[08:17] <harisund> Do you know what the ip addresses of the 2 machines are anne? If so, you could go to Menu->Places->Network servers or Connect to server and work your way from there.
[08:17] <dli> nomad111, change defulat # in /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:17] <slavik> michael: g++ is a compiler
[08:17] <slavik> C++ is a programming language
[08:17] <annie> harisund: ok .. I know the IP's I will try that .. thanks
[08:17] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: Reading it now.
[08:18] <michael> slavik, does g++ compile c++?
[08:18] <slavik> michael: yes it does :)
[08:18] <nickrud> nomad111, octave 2.1.72 is good enough?
[08:18] <nomad111> dli,  there is nuthing in that file
[08:18] <dli> michael, g++ is the c++ compiler
[08:18] <nomad111> nickrud, im over it
[08:18] <slavik> michael: teaching C++ cannot be done in 5min... even the simplest thing
[08:18] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: that might help if you want to use that program
[08:18] <ipfw> whats the name of the xlibs package for ubuntu ?
[08:18] <Codename_V> michael: start with scheme though.  not c++.  or ocaml.
[08:18] <nomad111> nickrud, i just wanna change my default boot to windows
[08:18] <nickrud> nomad111, ok.
[08:18] <nomad111> nickrud, and work with linux later
[08:18] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: You guys are the best...
[08:18] <Killgore> sure anyone can learn C++ in 5 mins
[08:18] <nomad111> nickrud, got tests to study for lol
[08:18] <GullyFoyle> fiendskull9: i have a FAT32 partition which has my firefox/thunderbird prefs and my email etc. is stored. so no matter if i boot windows or linux, it's the same thing
[08:18] <michael> i know c++ a little, but not in linux
[08:18] <nomad111> nickrud, can u tell me wat to edit
[08:19] <slavik> michael: it's the same ;)
[08:19] <Killgore> michael: a language is a languge
[08:19] <slavik> C++ is standard ...
[08:19] <nomad111> nickrud, i think i had the wrong filename /boot/grub/grub.conf?
[08:19] <fmasi> harisund I did exacly what you say and sill got the defaul page the i jus did a # in the line 17 where i find RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/ thx very mutch for the tip now it is neary a perfect apache2
[08:19] <nickrud> nomad111, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:19] <slavik> of course not in MSVC6 ...
[08:19] <annie> harisund: have tried from mach 2 to mach 1 but nothing was found
[08:19] <unL33Tn00b> In fact, anyone on here that knows linux pretty well and lives in PDX, Oregon: I'll supply you with booze for Linux help. ;)
[08:19] <harisund> fmasi, I didn't comment out the RedirectMatch line.
[08:19] <fiendskull9> !mount
[08:19] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:19] <Killgore> damn me and my living in australia unL33Tn00b
[08:19] <michael> slavik, but i don't know where to get started... do I make the file and then use g++ to compile it, because i'm used to a GUI
[08:19] <fiendskull9> !windowsdrives
[08:19] <ubotu> I heard windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:20] <harisund> fmasi: Anyway, index.html is always the first page. any other page you will have to manually do http://localhost/page_name.html
[08:20] <annie> harisund: same thing the other way round too
[08:20] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: btw what game are you hosting?
[08:20] <fmasi> harisund Mabe it is becouse i use debian sarge dont know
[08:20] <zaibiechu> where can i find the source of command "wc"
[08:20] <harisund> annie: What are the ips of the 2 machines. How did you find out? Using ifconfig?
[08:20] <slavik> michael: do "sudo apt-get install anjuta"
[08:20] <slavik> although forget that
[08:20] <slavik> michael: msg me ... so we don't flood
[08:20] <nickrud> nomad111, line 14, change that 0 to the number of the grub stanza you want to run. Count 'title' (start from 0) to the os you want to boot
[08:20] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: I'm going to host Cyberpunk 2020.  Roleplaying via telnet...kinda.  Look up MUSH in google.
[08:20] <fmasi> harisund i got that but what i have in this server is 32 sub folders one for eatch web site they do have index.php or index.html
[08:20] <Codename_V> michael: nah, you want this: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html
[08:21] <harisund> fmasi: Actually, for both Debian and Ubuntu, apache2 has been reconfigured. In general if you compile apache2 from source, or install on windows etc you will have everything in one big file
[08:21] <zaibiechu> of any other small prgrams
[08:21] <annie> harisund: No, I set up the 2 static Ip's .. they both ping ok
[08:21] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: give me the hostname and ill go and get it see what its like
[08:21] <brandon_> anybody know how to exclude a package from apt-get update?
[08:21] <fmasi> harisund i rather stay whith the ubuntu debian style
[08:21] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: I loved the old interlock system (they recently changed Cyberpunk to D20...Grrr)
[08:21] <harisund> fmasi: Oh neat. What you could do is point the apache2 root to the directory above the 32 directories.
[08:21] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: i love rpgs especially d20
[08:21] <harisund> fmasi: then you can do http://localhost/sub_directory_name and it would work
[08:21] <Killgore> join offtopic so we dont ruin the chan
[08:22] <Killgore> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:22] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: I'm using interlock (the original cyberpunk dice system)
[08:22] <fmasi> harisund i did exacly that its perfect now thx
[08:22] <harisund> annie: You have setup static ips?
[08:22] <harisund> fmasi: Glad to know it works.
[08:22] <unL33Tn00b> killgore I'm not a fan of D20... ;)
[08:22] <annie> harisund: yes I have
[08:22] <slavik> when I run gxmame, I get a blank screen and have to kill xserverto get my system back...
[08:22] <fmasi> harisund Just one more thing how to take out all the info aboute the server info etc in an error page
[08:22] <slavik> then I have to switch to another console and restart my system....
[08:23] <harisund> fmasi: I am not sure, but if you search online, you can find informatin for configuring the 404 page of Apache. Let me also check, hold on
[08:23] <fmasi> harisund ok thx once more
[08:23] <rubso> hi guys, i need help in creating a swap partition in ubuntu? :)
[08:23] <Akshunhiro> hey Codename_V
[08:23] <harisund> fmasi: open /etc/apache2/apache2.conf. Go to line 144 I think. You will find a sample. Check it out
[08:23] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: hi
[08:23] <chrismurf> Looking for a folder browser / utility / extension for Nautilus / etc. that gives me clear visual feedback on folder size, via icon size, pie chart, whatever
[08:23] <chrismurf> trying to pare down my filesystem some
[08:24] <fmasi> harisund I will do taht right now
[08:24] <nickrud> annie, install openssh-server on one of the machines, and use scp from the other to copy files back and forth.
[08:24] <harisund> annie: here is what I would do. Connect one machine to the internet. Do a "sudo aptitude install openssh-server"
[08:24] <Akshunhiro> my usb drive is sda1 mounted on /media/usbdisk
[08:24] <Akshunhiro> FS in ext3
[08:24] <chrismurf> there was an extension for KDE for a while that did it via displaying boxes with the correct area
[08:24] <harisund> Can you do that? Or would it be difficult to connect any machinnen to the internet?
[08:24] <harisund> annie: Can you do that? Or would it be difficult to connect any machinnen to the internet?
[08:25] <annie> harisund: machine 1 is connected to the net
[08:25] <Akshunhiro> when I try to edit the files, permission denied
[08:25] <harisund> annie: Oh awesome. Totally awesome. very simple to transfer files then. In mach1 , execute a "sudo aptitude install openssh-server".
[08:26] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: so what's "mount" tell ya?  is the filesystem read write?
[08:26] <slavik> michael: you still want to learn to code?
[08:26] <rubso> any help in creating a swap partition ? :)
[08:26] <Akshunhiro> yes, read write
[08:26] <slavik> rubso: shouldn't it do that automatically?
[08:27] <harisund> So annie, did you do the installation of openssh-server? Any luck with that?
[08:27] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: alrighty.  and you're root I take it?  what are the permissions on these files you're trying to edit?
[08:27] <Akshunhiro> read only at the moment
[08:27] <harisund> fmasi: What happened? Any luck?
[08:27] <annie> harisund: ok .. done that in a term window ... not sure what to do next though
[08:27] <fmasi> harisund aparently i only ads one line to the error page
[08:27] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: If you'll send me you email (I can't private page here yet> I'll update you when I get this sucker online so you can check it out.
[08:27] <Akshunhiro> I read there is no root password though, what do I use in live then/
[08:28] <fmasi> but the botum of the page whith the server version is still ther
[08:28] <harisund> annie: Try doing ssh username@localhost and tell me if you are able to login back to your own machine?
[08:28] <slavik> Akshunhiro: I think it's just blank
[08:28] <harisund> fmasi: Sorry, I didn't quite get you there. What do you mean?
[08:28] <fmasi> harisund but it is ok this is just extra
[08:28] <Akshunhiro> user is ubunut@ubuntu what should I use then?
[08:28] <johnnybezak> hey guys whats the command to find out about how much space it takes up
[08:28] <fmasi> harisund Let me show you
[08:28] <johnnybezak> it being afolder
[08:29] <fmasi> harisund this is the normall error http://200.209.63.4/sda
[08:29] <Akshunhiro> It won't let me authenticate...
[08:29] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: run this: su -
[08:29] <harisund> johnnybezak: du <folder_name>
[08:29] <michael> slavik, when I make a program using c++, i can compile the code to suite windows or red hat as well, can't i?
[08:29] <slavik> sudo su -
[08:29] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: baring that, run: sudo su -
[08:29] <fmasi> harisund Once you have sean it tell me and i will change it
[08:29] <slavik> michael: how complex is your code?
[08:29] <harisund> Yep. I have it in front of me.
[08:29] <defendguin> is anyone else using flight 6?  i got a bit of an issue with my atheros based wireless card
[08:29] <harisund> A simple "the requested url /sda was not found on the server"
[08:29] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: how can i send it, cos i cant PM either lol
[08:29] <slavik> michael: if it is something for a class then most likely
[08:30] <Akshunhiro> Codename_V, did nothing
[08:30] <michael> ok
[08:30] <slavik> even OpenGL will work, but linking is different
[08:30] <fmasi> harisund I did see one line in the php conf about taking the php part out but not the debia
[08:30] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: nothing?  or are you root now?
[08:30] <hrtp> what does 'grep' do?
[08:30] <harisund> !grep
[08:30] <ubotu> harisund: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:30] <slavik> michael: anything in the standard template library should be a simple copy/paste affair
[08:30] <Akshunhiro> I am root now
[08:30] <Akshunhiro> but... Permission Denied
[08:30] <harisund> fmasi: Anyway, did you change the error page?
[08:31] <fmasi> harisund Now i will show you after teking the # out of line 144
[08:31] <harisund> Sure.
[08:31] <fmasi> harisund 2 sec
[08:31] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: Hmm...Search Myspcae.com for HomoCanis (as in latin, not orientation).
[08:31] <michael> slavik, thanks
[08:31] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: and you're sure the filesystem is read/write?  what makes you say that?
[08:31] <harisund> johnnybezak: du <folder_name> Did that work?
[08:31] <unL33Tn00b> killgore You can leave me messages there.
[08:31] <slavik> hrtp: grep will print every line that matches or contains a string
[08:31] <slavik> michael: np
[08:31] <fmasi> harisund done i change it
[08:31] <Akshunhiro> All I need to do is tell grub to search for USB drive... What a fkn nightmare...
[08:31] <fmasi> harisund take a look
[08:31] <hrtp> slavik, like? , mind if you give me an example?
[08:31] <Akshunhiro> FS is read write
[08:31] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: do i need to register?
[08:32] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: and you know this how?
[08:32] <slavik> hrtp: history | grep cd, will show you all the commands you typed out that were remembered that have cd in them
[08:32] <harisund> fmasi: Now it has a "Additionally a 404 not found error...." right?
[08:32] <unL33Tn00b> Mmm, yep.  I think.  But it's fast/easy/free.
[08:32] <fmasi> harisund yes exacly
[08:32] <Akshunhiro> Codename_V, what?
[08:32] <Akshunhiro> what are you talking about...
[08:32] <annie> harisund: ok yes .. the local host thingy worked and I can log out and back in
[08:32] <harisund> fmasi: Hang on, are you simply removing the # on line 404?
[08:32] <Akshunhiro> Tell me how to boot from USB HD then
[08:32] <fmasi> harisund but what i was planing was to take oute the Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/5.0.4-Debian-0.15~sarge1 Server at 200.209.63.4 Port 80
[08:32] <slavik> or, if you have many files in a filder ...you can do: ls | grep .txt and it will show all files that have .txt in name
[08:32] <Akshunhiro> coz that is what I am trying to do
[08:32] <harisund> annie: ok neat. Hang on. In a minute
[08:32] <fmasi> harisund yes what sould i be doing
[08:32] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: what are you editing the files with by the way?  if the filesystem is truely read write, you just do a w! with vi to write the file even when you don't have permission.
[08:32] <Akshunhiro> I have done the install
[08:32] <slavik> Akshunhiro: that is a BIOS option
[08:33] <Akshunhiro> but it won't boot
[08:33] <Akshunhiro> NO IT'S NOT SLAVIK
[08:33] <Akshunhiro> I got past that
[08:33] <Akshunhiro> ...
[08:33] <fmasi> harisund aaa i got it
[08:33] <harisund> fmasi: It is not enough to merely take out the comment. In the line 144, change /missing.html to anything you want
[08:33] <fmasi> harisund i sould indicate it to some page
[08:33] <fmasi> ok ok
[08:34] <harisund> annie: ok. now go ahead and reconnect using cross over cable.
[08:34] <fmasi> harisund thx very mutch i will try it
[08:34] <slavik> Akshunhiro: no need to be so angry :(
[08:34] <harisund> fmasi: Please do, and tell me if it worked.
[08:34] <fmasi> harisund do you know enny place to get a funny 404 error page ?
[08:34] <harisund> fmasi: Hmm... sorry.. I generally dn't like 404 pages ,and consequently don't pay much attention to them :D
[08:34] <slavik> fmasi: I saw one that said that the person'slucky numbers were 4,0,4
[08:34] <Akshunhiro> ...
[08:35] <Akshunhiro> fkn nightmare
[08:35] <slavik> another one you could say is that athens lost a war in 404bc....
[08:35] <harisund> fmasi: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~niven/saltwaterpizza/2004/08/collection-of-interesting-404-error.html
[08:35] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: nah, this is really simple stuff if you know what you're doing.
[08:35] <harisund> slavik: Your last statement made me laugh, really....where did you get that from? /
[08:35] <Akshunhiro> well clearly I don't
[08:35] <Akshunhiro> and you guys aren't much help
[08:35] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: it cant find you
[08:35] <Akshunhiro> I read the pages
[08:35] <Akshunhiro> and I know what I need to do but it won't let me
[08:35] <fmasi> harisund thx i try finding a funny one
[08:35] <harisund> fmasi: The url link I gave you is Google's "I am feeling lucky" for the search term "Interesting 404 pages"
[08:35] <michael> slavik, will the header files I need already be in the right place? for using cin and cout
[08:36] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: uh...Im not helping here?  if you'd answer the question I just asked we'd get somewhere.
[08:36] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: Gimme a sec and I'll send you a link...
[08:36] <fmasi> harisund next time i will trust more in google
[08:36] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: as opposed to sitting there and pouting.
[08:36] <Akshunhiro> what should I be using to edit then/
[08:36] <Akshunhiro> ?
[08:36] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: how is it you know the filesystem is mounted read write?
[08:36] <Akshunhiro> because I do
[08:36] <Akshunhiro> the install formatted it
[08:37] <harisund> fmasi: Uh, I like IRC channels too.. slavik just gave me an awesome error message.. of all things who would think of Athens..
[08:37] <xstation> good morning
[08:37] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: ok.  but that in no way means it's mounted read write at the moment.
[08:37] <Akshunhiro> I will double check
[08:37] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: you run simply "mount".  what's it say?  rw?  or ro?
[08:38] <harisund> ok annie, tell me when you are good to go again
[08:38] <Codename_V> and then assuming rw, again, if it's simply permissions on the files you can force a write with vi.  the w! command.
[08:38] <xstation> xine at apt-get is not there whats the corect apt-get name
[08:38] <Killgore> oh really?
[08:38] <Killgore> can vi do that
[08:38] <harisund> xstation, I believe it is gnome-xine
[08:39] <dli> xstation, xine-ui
[08:39] <dli> xstation, apt-cache search xine
[08:39] <harisund> xstation: and yes, xine-ui true. Thanks dli
[08:39] <minn> Hello, how do i switch channels in irssi?
[08:39] <Codename_V> Killgore: well, if you're root of course.  permissions don't really matter to root.
[08:39] <xstation> harisund:/dli hanks
[08:39] <dli> code_, chmod 000 for root :)
[08:39] <xstation> thanks
[08:40] <Akshunhiro> Codename_V, I checked before (rw)
[08:40] <Akshunhiro> I am saving a download to it now
[08:40] <jbritz22> Can anyone tell me how to burn .daa files?
[08:40] <nathanj> how do i mount a drive through gfnome so its just mounts it everytime (for example i have a /media/storage01 which i setup during install and it just mounts itself to my desktop without a hassle but i dont know how to make the drive i connect just do the same but /media/storage02) i have done it the fstab way but i want it to ahve samenaming as tehother drive
[08:40] <harisund> minn, if you are connected to multiple channels, press Escape, then press a window number. It would go there
[08:40] <Akshunhiro> in the window, the file itself is RO
[08:40] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: alrighty.  so does my next comment make sense then?  are you using vi to edit the thing, or something else?
[08:40] <rob_p> minn:  ctrl-n or ctrl-p depending on which direction you want to cycle...
[08:40] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: which window would this be?
[08:40] <fmasi> harisund it whorks i fixing my page now thx very mutch
[08:40] <slavik> nathanj: it doesn't automount?
[08:40] <Akshunhiro> the explorer window
[08:40] <nathanj> slavik: no
[08:40] <harisund> fmasi: Can I see? :D ;-)
[08:41] <fmasi> yes
[08:41] <flodine> anyone running the new xfce desktop and how is it
[08:41] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: you have a gui or something with this live cd?
[08:41] <annie> harisund: ok ... have ssh on both, both can ssh to "localhost" and both can ping each other but cannot seem to ssh into the other .. it sort of just sits there
[08:41] <xstation> dli: to play mpgs do I need win coecs and can I apt-get them?
[08:41] <fmasi> harisund still gona copy to local but that is alredy what i will but
[08:41] <michael> slavik; when I learned basic C++, I was using 'cout >>;' instead of 'printf();'
[08:41] <minn> rob_p, thanks, it works :)
[08:41] <harisund> Ok. annie here is what you do
[08:41] <rob_p> minn:  welcome
[08:41] <harisund> fmasi Can you post your error page again? I kind of lost it .. sorry :D
[08:42] <Codename_V> Akshunhiro: and like I was saying before, you'll probably need to be root to edit the thing anyway.  so open up a terminal, su to root.  go to your file and try and edit it there.
[08:42] <dli> xstation, apt-cache search w32codes
[08:42] <slavik> michael: printf is in C not C++ :)
[08:42] <fmasi> http://200.209.63.4/jshdsvu
[08:42] <slavik> michael: pm me if you want to talk about code... don't want to flood this channel :)
[08:42] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: You still there?
[08:42] <harisund> annie: On any one machine, go to Places->Connect to server
[08:42] <dli> slavik, C is a subset of C++
[08:42] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: yer
[08:42] <fmasi> harisund the page is like me lots of cofy
[08:42] <harisund> fmasi: Oh coffee. Neat
[08:42] <slavik> dli: no it isn't
[08:42] <slavik> C++ is a superset of C ...
[08:42] <michael> slavik, how do i start a pm in XChat?
[08:43] <Akshunhiro> OK, I will persist...
[08:43] <slavik> .  /msg name message
[08:43] <harisund> dli you can't install w32codecs that way
[08:43] <jbritz22> Can ANYONE help me burn a .daa file, All I see is poweriso, but thats not for linux...
[08:43] <slavik> I think
[08:43] <nathanj> eoes anyone know?
[08:43] <annie> harisund: Mach 2 .. done that
[08:43] <slavik> or right click my name?
[08:43] <slavik> use gaim...
[08:43] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: http://www.myspace.com/homocanis
[08:43] <chris_> setting samba and get a error
[08:43] <harisund> annie: In connect to server, service type SSh, server the ip of your mach 1
[08:43] <harisund> and of course, user name, th euser name in mach1, and name to use, anything you want.
[08:44] <annie> harisund: yep .. done
[08:44] <chris_>  sudo apt-get install samba
[08:44] <chris_> i did that command
[08:44] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: ok i get it i was using caps
[08:44] <chris_> and things failed in the end
[08:44] <xstation> dli: it just returns to prompt
[08:44] <slavik> chris_: use the pastebin to tell us the errors
[08:44] <harisund> xstation: Use this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28w32codecs%29
[08:44] <harisund> fmasi: So everything is good now?
[08:44] <chris_> !pastebin
[08:44] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[08:45] <minn> hello, how do i mount windows smb share? I tried 'mount -t smbfs //server/share /media/smb'
[08:45] <fmasi> harisund yes
[08:45] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: :)
[08:45] <chris_> ok whats the website i forgot
[08:45] <fmasi> harisund thx very mutch
[08:45] <harisund> annie: Once you do that, on your Desktop you will see a new icon with the name that you entered very much
[08:45] <harisund> fmasi: Good to hear that !
[08:45] <Codename_V> minn: sounds about right.  or one way to do it.
[08:45] <minn> it says mount_data version is not supported
[08:45] <slavik> minn: I ran into the same problem and set up an ftp server on my windows system
[08:45] <xstation> hurisund: do i need win32codes to play mpegs?
[08:45] <fmasi> harisund now i nead to lear how to put a dns server up LOL
[08:45] <harisund> xstation: Did you go to the page I talked about?
[08:45] <chris_> pastebin ? whats the website?
[08:45] <Codename_V> minerale: or try smbmount maybe.
[08:45] <harisund> fmasi: sorry, beyond my current knowledge.
[08:45] <slavik> !pastebin
[08:45] <ubotu> well, pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[08:45] <Codename_V> oops.  minn I mean
[08:45] <fmasi> harisund but that another story
[08:45] <annie> harisund: oh wow !! yeah .. very cool !
[08:45] <fmasi> harisund and probably only tomorow
[08:45] <harisund> fmasi: All the best with that quest of yours
[08:46] <annie> harisund: now what ?!?
[08:46] <harisund> annie: Now double click on that icon. It should ask you for mach1's password?
[08:46] <fmasi> harisund do you know enny god howto about bind9
[08:46] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: does it have a link for emailing you? i dont have myspace
[08:46] <rubso> what's wrong with mozilla it crashes everytime i visit a forum !?
[08:46] <chris_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11288
[08:46] <harisund> fmasi: Really sorry.. you will have to find out from a better source than me :0(
[08:46] <minn> Codename_V: sorry, there's no smbmount on my installation, where can i get  that?
[08:46] <harisund> I haven't found the need for a DNS server, so I haven't learnt about that.
[08:47] <fmasi> harisund ok thx see you later
[08:47] <harisund> xstation: Yes, I blieve you do need w32codecs for that.
[08:47] <Codename_V> minn: dunno then.  guess I'm thinking of other linux distros.
[08:47] <harisund> fmasi: Sure ! See ya !
[08:47] <fmasi> asta la vista pepole
[08:47] <harisund> annie: Could you open mach1 from mach2?
[08:47] <annie> harisund: double clicked it and waited ..said it was opening connection then I got the error msge " couldn't display location
[08:47] <Codename_V> minn: here's a guy with the same problem.  he says this: smbfs wasn't installed
[08:48] <rubso> i'll be mad now !!! WHAT'S WRONG WITH FIREFOX !!!?
[08:48] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: Make a myspace account even if you don't want to use it.  Like a disposable emali.  When you've done that, click the message iceon in my profile.  Type your info their.
[08:48] <harisund_> sorry xstation and anne. I got disconnected
[08:49] <harisund_> anne: What happened? Any luck?
[08:49] <chris_> somebody help me with samba?
[08:49] <annie> harisund: no luck .. couldn't connect .. all seemed to work ok but then failed and gave error message "can't display location"
[08:49] <Killgore> unL33Tn00b: lol i wont get raped will i?
[08:49] <harisund_> annie: But you can ping one machine from the other?
[08:50] <unL33Tn00b> killgore: Huh? ;)
[08:50] <annie> harisund: sure can
[08:50] <harisund_> annie: And do ssh into localhost from one another?
[08:50] <annie> harisund: both ways
[08:50] <harisund_> annie: hmm.. that's funny.. let's see..what could probably be wrong?
[08:50] <annie> harisund: hang on .. trying from localhost
[08:50] <CarlK> "Package libavcodec1 is not available, but is referred to by another package." - what should I be installing?
[08:50] <harisund_> annie: try doing so over the command line: execute: "ssh username@mach1.ip"
[08:51] <minn> Codename_V: thanks, apt-get install smbfs solved it.
[08:51] <harisund_> annie: localhost just means "same machine".
[08:52] <michael> slavik; what is std::endl              p.s. I can't pm you
[08:52] <chris_> someone help me with samba!!?
[08:53] <chris_> please
[08:54] <umarmung> CarlK: what are you trying to install?
[08:54] <Codename_V> chris_: probably.  or maybe.  hard to say at this point.
[08:54] <harisund_> annie: Any luck at all?
[08:54] <michael> screw it... i'm too tired to learn... good night everybody
[08:55] <Killgore> whats the difference between binaries and source?
[08:55] <Killgore> im trying to get the gens emulator on ubuntu
[08:55] <Codename_V> Killgore: binaries are compiled source code
[08:55] <annie> harisund: ok .. mach 1 ssh local works, mach 2 ssh local works .. just can't ssh to each other
[08:55] <Killgore> Codename_V: so what shoud i get?
[08:55] <chris_> ohh found a website thank all tho
[08:55] <harisund_> annie:
[08:55] <harisund_> annie: so on mach1 you tried ssh localhost, right?
[08:55] <Codename_V> Killgore: depends.
[08:55] <annie> harisund: yes
[08:55] <harisund_> what happens if you try "ssh user@mach1.ip.address"
[08:55] <moonstone> Buahahaaa, im gonna destroy whole hollywood moviecoulture by backuping my shrek2 movie!
[08:56] <rishi> What CD burning program will rip an iso in linux?
[08:56] <Codename_V> Killgore: you probably oughta just do an "apt-get install gens"
[08:56] <harisund_> if you can ping the ip address of mac1, you should be able to ssh into the ip address of mach1 from mach2 . just try that?
[08:56] <Killgore> Codename_V: no its not in the repos
[08:56] <annie> harisund: also logs in
[08:56] <moonstone> rishi, dd command
[08:56] <Codename_V> Killgore: somehow I doubt that.
[08:56] <harisund_> annie: wait.. hold up ..
[08:56] <harisund_> annie: What did you just say "also logs in" for?
[08:56] <rishi> moonstone: is it in the repos?
[08:56] <Killgore> Codename_V: could not find package gens
[08:56] <chris_> workgroup = MSHOME ? or shud be workgroup?
[08:56] <chris_> in samba?
[08:57] <Killgore> Codename_V: alhtough i only ahve the defualt repos
[08:57] <Codename_V> Killgore: even in the debian junk?
[08:57] <moonstone> rishi, dd if=/dev/hdc of=/home/yourname/file.iso
[08:57] <Killgore> Codename_V: how do i get that?
[08:57] <Codename_V> chris_: sounds like you're a perfect candidate for swat.
[08:57] <rishi> moonstone: that's how you do it?
[08:57] <moonstone> rishi, that command makes one to one copy of your cd-disc
[08:58] <Codename_V> Killgore: just wait a few minutes.  seems like every 5 minutes someone or other does a !repos.
[08:58] <chris_> lol im 17 i have no clue what i am doin
[08:58] <harisund_> annie: Basically here is what you need to try to see if it works. Go to machine2. Type in "ssh username@machine1.ip.address" and this should technically log in to machine1 (from machine2)
[08:58] <harisund_> annie: if the above can happen, then we are good to go.
[08:58] <annie> harisund: just my weird terminology
[08:58] <rishi> moonstone: sweet, i shall try it, thanks man, appreciate it.
[08:58] <Codename_V> chris_: which is why I say you oughta run swat.  you connect to a website to configure your samba server.
[08:58] <harisund_> annie: no no, not at all wierd. quite convenient, if you ask me
[08:59] <Codename_V> chris_: really though you oughta read the book "samba 3 by example".  it's free.  you can find it on samba.org.
[08:59] <Codename_V> chris_: you'd probably only need the first chapter, or maybe the second.
[08:59] <chris_> well thanks
[08:59] <chris_> :)
[08:59] <chris_> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba
[08:59] <chris_> on that now
[09:00] <harisund_> annie: what hapened?
[09:00] <annie> harisund: ok .. I understand what you are saying, I get the connection on both machines BUT when i try to ssh from one to the other, it just doesn't respond ..
[09:00] <xstation> karisund installed xine-ui should it appear in my list of sound and vieio
[09:00] <Killgore> Codename_V: will !repos have the address for debian junk?
[09:00] <xstation> vedio
[09:00] <annie> harisund: from either side of the ssh
[09:00] <Codename_V> Killgore: observe:
[09:00] <Codename_V> !repos
[09:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:00] <harisund_> xstation: try running xine or xine-ui from command line?
[09:01] <harisund_> annie: hmm.. but you are able to ping right? That's funny..
[09:01] <annie> harisund:  very funny ..
[09:01] <anto9us> annie, does "nmap localhost" show port 22 as open?
[09:02] <rishi> moonstone: it didn't work, i get an input/output error
[09:02] <Killgore> Codename_V: thanks
[09:02] <annie> harisund: says nmap command not found
[09:02] <anto9us> annie, sudo apt-get install nmap
[09:02] <harisund_> anto9us: annie says nmap not found. Should he install that?
[09:03] <harisund_> anto9us: the thing is, annie has two machines connected through crossover, and configured with static IPs.
[09:03] <harisund_> anto9us: File transfer can take place this way, right? Atleast it can in Windows for sure.
[09:03] <anto9us> harisund, well, if ping works, other protocols should
[09:03] <Killgore> yep
[09:03] <Killgore> what is the problem wont samba connect
[09:03] <slavik> file sharing = glorified ftp ...
[09:04] <chris_>  netbios name = kenny_smb_server do i change kkenny!?
[09:04] <moonstone> rishi, is /dev/hdc your cd-drive?
[09:04] <harisund_> anto9us: my question was, is ping working simply because it is configured with static?
[09:04] <harisund_> annie: what kind of static ips have you set?
[09:04] <anto9us> harisund, it doesn't make a difference
[09:04] <rishi> moonstone, how do i check?
[09:04] <DBO> Does anyone use Ubuntu with an integrated S3 video, and if so, does it work?
[09:04] <reapser> guys IM using Linux...!!!
[09:04] <chris_>  netbios name = kenny_smb_server do i change kenny to something else?
[09:04] <anto9us> harisund, it might only make a difference with working with domain names instead of ip's
[09:04] <slavik> DBO: you want 3d accelaration?
[09:04] <reapser> i finally did it
[09:05] <slavik> reapser: grats :)
[09:05] <annie> harisund: 192.168.0.9 for m1  and 192.168.0.6 for m2
[09:05] <harisund_> annie: in the static connection, I think you should make sure the default gateways and the subnet masks are the same.
[09:05] <DBO> slavik, no, just to see if hardware support is there at all
[09:05] <moonstone> rishi, use mount command
[09:05] <harisund_> and anto9us: thanks for that domain/ip info.
[09:05] <slavik> reapser: welcome to the company of the other million+ people ...
[09:05] <reapser> but the font is too small
[09:05] <Killgore> Codename_V: where is this debian stuff mentioned? if i add all those repos will i have maximum packages avaliable to me?
[09:05] <slavik> DBO, it should definatelly work
[09:05] <annie> harisund: ok .. i'll check
[09:05] <reapser> hey thanks..
[09:05] <slavik> if S3 supports vesa, which it has to support ...
[09:05] <CarlK> I am trying to install gvidcap.deb- I get "gvidcap depends on libavcodec1 (>= 1:0.4.8); however:  Package libavcodec1 is not installed."
[09:05] <chris_>  netbios name = kenny_smb_server , do you change kenny?
[09:05] <CarlK> butr I cant find libavcodec1
[09:05] <rishi> moonstone: okay, what am i looking for?
[09:06] <DBO> slavik, well I know VESA will work, I was hoping for something about 800x600 though...
[09:06] <Codename_V> Killgore: yeah, but I think I'd be careful with those.  seems like I've heard bad things can happen if you install the wrong things from those repositories.
[09:06] <slavik> vesa is lie ansi-c ... if you don't support it, you're a nazi
[09:06] <moonstone> rishi, something where reads cdrom
[09:06] <slavik> dbo, vesa module goes over that ;)
[09:06] <harisund_> And annie, just curious, are you IRCing from a third machine?
[09:07] <DBO> slavik... where I said about, I meant to say over (rather tired and sick of setting up boxes)
[09:07] <DBO> but yes, you are right
[09:07] <rishi> moonstone, i don't have any cdrom
[09:07] <reapser> how do I make the FONT more larger..
[09:07] <harisund> annie: Could you configure it for same subnet mask?
[09:07] <slavik> dbo, I used vesa with 1024x768
[09:07] <slavik> reapser: where?
[09:07] <xstation> harisund thanks first time I have seen my brothers wedding with sound
[09:08] <reapser> on IRC..
[09:08] <slavik> reapser: what are you using?
[09:08] <harisund> xstation: ? What was the problem earlier?
[09:08] <reapser> ?
[09:08] <harisund> xstation: Oh you mean you are now able to play mpeg files?
[09:08] <calidad> Please: anybody can tell me how to see TV over internet with Ubuntu?
[09:08] <reapser> ubuntu
[09:08] <DBO> xstation, how is everything going?
[09:08] <harisund> xstation: Glad to hear your mplayer is working well
[09:08] <CarlK> rishi: here is *a* way: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[09:09] <slavik> reapser: what program?
[09:09] <xstation> DBO: ok you should be in bed or is it the coffee
[09:09] <annie> harisund: ok .. done
[09:09] <reapser> Xchat IRC i think
[09:09] <harisund> annie: so tell me, earlier were the subnet masks and default gateways different?
[09:09] <rishi> CarlK: thanks, i'll look at it right now
[09:09] <slavikx> ok ... looking at it now
[09:09] <DBO> xstation, oh right, bed... no... SSH + work from home = gaming all day working all night
[09:09] <moonstone> rishi, do you have cd in the cd-rom drive?
[09:09] <Killgore> Codename_V: hmmm its not in there either >_<
[09:09] <rishi> moonstone: should i be worried that there is no cdrom thing when i type in the command mount?
[09:09] <moonstone> rishi, nope
[09:10] <rishi> moonstone: yeah, there is a blank cd in the drive now
[09:10] <slavikx> reapser, have you tried going to settings -> preferences?
[09:10] <xstation> DBO: gaming what type
[09:10] <DBO> reapser, Settings -> Preferences, change the number after the font name to something like 12
[09:10] <reapser> ah ok.
[09:10] <harisund> annie: so tell me, earlier were the subnet masks and default gateways different?
[09:10] <DBO> xstation, Oblivion
[09:10] <Codename_V> Killgore: debian has like 15000 packages.  it would almost have to be in there.  perhaps not though.  you did the multiverse one and all that?
[09:10] <slavik> and use gaim in future
[09:10] <xstation> DBO: well taht will keep you awake
[09:11] <Killgore> Codename_V: none of the updated urls mention debian
[09:11] <slavik> Codename_V: over 17000
[09:11] <reapser> ok
[09:11] <rishi> CarlK, i don't see where it says how to burn an iso on that wiki page
[09:11] <Codename_V> Killgore: universe or multiverse or whatever are debian repositories.
[09:11] <xstation> anybody want a little script so everything starts on boot
[09:11] <moonstone> rishi, sorry but i have to go out with my child now... ask someone for help. You can try out software like "graveman" and "gnometoaster"
[09:11] <DBO> slavik, GAIM is ok for casual IRC use, but a real client works much better for daily usage
[09:12] <slavik> dbo, last time I used a "real" client ... has been a long while ago
[09:12] <rishi> moonstone: thanks so much, i appreciate the help man, i'll try those\
[09:12] <slavik> gaim doesn't have /ctcp stuff though :(
[09:12] <xstation> rishi: are you a rishi
[09:12] <DBO> slavik, I was hoping GAIM 2.0 would fix that, not so much...
[09:12] <CarlK> rishi: I thought you didn't have a cdrom
[09:12] <Killgore> Codename_V: bleh they were commented out
[09:12] <ipfw> slavik:  if it has /raw you could send it that way
[09:13] <slavik> nope
[09:13] <reapser> ah much better guys..
[09:13] <rishi> CarlK: haha no, my problem is that i don't know how to burn an iso to cdrom
[09:13] <slavik> ctcp and raw are only for fserves as far s I am concerned
[09:13] <reapser> is not that I'm blind you know...but too small
[09:13] <reapser> lol
[09:13] <rishi> xstation: i am not a rishi...they are my namesake :)
[09:13] <jackal83_> #ubuntu-it
[09:14] <CarlK> rishi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[09:14] <Overand> hazha
[09:14] <Overand> slavik: ctcp and raw predate fserves
[09:14] <jbritz22> hey whats a good linux program to burn img/sub
[09:14] <slavik> Overand: I know... fserve is the onlyreason I need raw or ctcp
[09:15] <slavik> jbritz22: k3b
[09:15] <harisund> annie, i am sorry I got to go now.. if setting the same subnet mask and same gateway still doesn't allow sshing from one machine to to the other, I am afraid you will have to get help from some body else. I am sure there is only a small fix somewhere. Basically you are doing "ssh user@192.168.0.9" from 192.168.0.6 ..
[09:15] <DBO> jbritz22, k3b should work
[09:15] <Overand> slavik: funny, I use them both all the time, and I haven't used an fserve since i was pubescent
[09:15] <DBO> slavik, gah, keep beating me to it...
[09:15] <jbritz22> how should I use k3b
[09:15] <slavik> Overand: I am not you ...
[09:15] <jbritz22> instructions?
[09:15] <_Fulg> my computer freezes at hotplug subsystem.and if i bypass by pressing ctr+c i cant get my nic WORK!
[09:15] <reapser> oops i went balck
[09:15] <slavik> jbritz22: it's a gui ...
[09:15] <slavik> jbritz22: stop being lazy
[09:15] <jbritz22> ok
[09:15] <Overand> slavik: so don't make sweeping assumptions about protocols
[09:15] <Killgore> annie: maybe i can help
[09:16] <harisund> Thanks Killgore
[09:16] <Overand> "torrent is only good for warez as far as i'm concerned"
[09:16] <hrtp> Can't locate URI/Escape.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .)
[09:16] <Killgore> Overand: then you are lost
[09:16] <hrtp> whatd be the problem of this?
[09:16] <Overand> Killgore: it was a joke
[09:16] <slavik> Overand: so you use torrent only for warez then?
[09:16] <Killgore> Overand: unless thats a quote
[09:16] <Killgore> heheh
[09:16] <jbritz22> k3b only burns iso cues and toc slabik
[09:16] <jbritz22> so...
[09:16] <jbritz22> what now
[09:16] <Overand> Killgore: i'm pointing out the silliness of him saying /raw and /ctcp are only good for fserves
[09:16] <xstation> DBO: take a look at this about eqemu will it help if i have the same realtech 8139 post by DrJgermeister http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=5055&st=20
[09:16] <Killgore> Overand: not very funny tho
[09:16] <reapser> oh man now Im too Green..
[09:16] <Killgore> Overand: now i get it good one
[09:16] <_Fulg> anyone can help please ?
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[09:17] <DBO> xstation, who are you on there?
[09:17] <slavik> Overand: I never said that is all they were good for...
[09:17] <reapser> Question guys..How do I play MP3's..???
[09:17] <slavik> hmm, jbritz22, no img?
[09:17] <DBO> _Fulg, you been looking for an answer all day no?
[09:17] <slavik> reapser: did you install w32codecs?
[09:17] <CarlK> !restricted
[09:17] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:17] <anto9us> ubotu, tell reapser about restrictedformats
[09:17] <_Fulg> yep
[09:17] <xstation> DBO: its a post by  DrJgermeister on 24 feb
[09:18] <_Fulg> and i cant find the solution :(
[09:18] <jbritz22> slavik, no
[09:18] <reapser> i dunno...
[09:18] <patrick52222> how i like webmin to apache2
[09:18] <reapser> where Do i find that
[09:18] <DBO> _Fulg, did you make a forum post?  Those tend to be a better place to stick the really tough ones
[09:18] <anto9us> reapser, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:18] <rishi> Carlk: haha, i have to redownload it...that dd command turned it into a crap 0kb txt
[09:18] <slavik> hmm, have you tried listing all the files and see if it wouldburn it?
[09:18] <patrick52222> how to i link webmin to apache2 on ubuntu
[09:18] <DBO> xstation, Im not going to read all that right now... but I did bookmark it
[09:18] <_Fulg> well ,i thought that i`ll get a response here...
[09:19] <reapser> tonyyarusso IM using Ubuntu...!!
[09:19] <_Fulg> but i think i was wrong .
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> Any way to change the screen resolution at my GRUB menu screen?  It's not particularly attractive right now.
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> reapser, YAY!!
[09:19] <slavik> tony, doubt it
[09:19] <reapser> got it finally
[09:19] <xstation> DBO: its just one post on 24 feb not all of it
[09:19] <DBO> _Fulg, if you make a post on the forums explaining in detail what is going on, Im sure we can figure it out
[09:19] <jbritz22> hey whats a good linux program to burn img/sub
[09:19] <jbritz22> k3b only burns iso cues and toc slabik
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> (By the way, I was going to log in earlier to ask if my clock would change for DST, but saw that it did!)
[09:19] <DBO> xstation, ok
[09:20] <slavik> jbritz22: try gnome baker
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> Slackwise, Dang.  Might I have a bios setting or something even, or is that just set?
[09:20] <jbritz22> slavik ok
[09:20] <root> how would I have apt-get remove a list of files that are in a text file?
[09:20] <xstation> DBO just about the patch
[09:20] <anto9us> _Fulg, are you configured for dhcp?
[09:20] <slavik> !img
[09:20] <ubotu> slavik: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> I tried the grub-splashimage concept, but it doesn't look great.
[09:20] <NickGarvey> !iso
[09:20] <ubotu> iso is, like, totally, download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[09:20] <rishi> slavik: does gnome breaker do more?
[09:20] <slavik> rishi: no clue
[09:20] <rishi> slavik: haha.
[09:20] <xstation> I want to be a bot in my old age
[09:20] <slavik> ubuntu is on my laptop and I don't have  burner here
[09:20] <jbritz22> apt-get install gnome-baker?
[09:21] <slavik> jbritz22: sounds right
[09:21] <jbritz22> doesnt work
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey, You mean you have a list of packages in a text file, and want to remove all of those?
[09:21] <rob_p> rishi:  What are you trying to do?
[09:21] <DBO> xstation, I believe that patch is aimed at mactels no?
[09:21] <slavik> use synaptic and search for baker
[09:21] <jbritz22> ok
[09:21] <rishi> rob_p i am trying to burn the flight 6 iso on to cd
[09:21] <_Fulg> anto9us
[09:21] <_Fulg> nope
[09:21] <_Fulg> is a fresh install
[09:22] <_Fulg> and freezes at hotplug subsystem
[09:22] <calyth> Is there a command to change the resolution of the screen? Breezy used to change the resolution when I run a full-screen app under wine (yes I'm a gamer), but dapper seems a bit less willing
[09:22] <xstation> DBO: ok is it I thoughtit was for realtech 8139 which I have?
[09:22] <NickGarvey> tonyyarusso: exactly
[09:22] <_Fulg> if i bypass it with ctr+c i cand use my nic
[09:22] <_Fulg> cant*
[09:22] <anto9us> _Fulg, try booting with aption noapic and noacpi
[09:22] <patrick52222> how do i link webmin to apache2 on ubuntu, or is there a better admin tool
[09:22] <DBO> xstation, I dont think that will help you
[09:22] <chris_> ok samba problem!!
[09:23] <chris_> windows wont reconize samba
[09:23] <DBO> xstation, of course, you havent even told me what your problem is...
[09:23] <chris_> :(
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey, 'cat /path/to/list.txt | xargs sudo apt-get remove', iirc.
[09:23] <holycow> chris_: ask in #samba then
[09:23] <chris_> i did no response
[09:23] <anto9us> patrick52222, just replace apache with apache2 in module configuration paths
[09:23] <slavik> chris_: is the samba daemon running?
[09:24] <DBO> chris_, have you tried entering "//<IPADDRESS" into your address bar in explorer (not internet explorer)?
[09:24] <patrick52222> anto9us: huh wat do you mean
[09:24] <xstation> DBO: no problem it was just a thought that I have a realtech 8139 and that patch or zip may apply not thinking correctly
[09:24] <annie_> harisund: ok .. back again .. that REALLY didn't work !!
[09:24] <chris_> how do you find out my IP adress? is it tha router settings? adress?
[09:24] <DBO> xstation, if it aint broke, dont fix it, ESPECIALLY in linux...
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> slavik, Dang.  Might I have a bios setting for that or something?  (Maybe?  Trying to make grub-splashimage pretty.)
[09:24] <chris_> im on wireless right now
[09:24] <anto9us> patrick52222, it's easy, go to apache module, module configuration, append 2 wherever you see Apache in the paths
[09:24] <Eleaf> chris_, your local ip address you can find from ifconfig
[09:24] <reapser> OK guys see ya 2morrow with more questions...and thanks all of ya..
[09:25] <xstation> DBO: ok thaks
[09:25] <Eleaf> chris_, your public ip you could find from whatismyipaddress.com
[09:25] <jbritz22> slavik GNOMEBAKER doesnt work either.............arg, this is frusturating
[09:25] <slavik> tonyyarusso: the actual grub boot select thing?
[09:25] <chris_> ok thanks
[09:25] <chris_> got it
[09:25] <annie_> I changed gateway address on mach 1 (this machine)  to match gateway on machine 2 and totally lost the internet connection
[09:25] <chris_> what now?
[09:25] <xstation> DBO: can you look at this script its only a few lines
[09:25] <DBO> chris_, you have your private IP address?
[09:25] <slavik> jbritz22: last resort ... search sourcefrge for "img"
[09:25] <DBO> xstation, sure, pastebin it
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> slavik, Yeah.  You can get a background image for the menu, but it doesn't look all that hot b/c of the vga setting / resolution.
[09:25] <patrick52222> anto9us: where are the apache modules
[09:25] <chris_> 127.0.0.1
[09:25] <jbritz22> fricfk
[09:25] <chris_> :X
[09:25] <anto9us> patrick52222, in webmin :)
[09:25] <DBO> chris_, thats loopback
[09:26] <slavik> tonyyarusso: you can't change the resolution...
[09:26] <chris_> ok yah 10.0.1.33
[09:26] <DBO> chris_, type into console "ifconfig eth0"
[09:26] <DBO> ok thats more like it
[09:26] <DBO> now
[09:26] <slavik> because drivers aren't even loaded at that point
[09:26] <xstation> DBO: remind me is it http://pastebin.ubuntu.nl?
[09:26] <BlueHeron> or pastebin.com
[09:26] <annie_> no .. annie is still here !!
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> slavik, Hmm, all right.  No chance of built in hardware anything?
[09:26] <chris_> on wireless...
[09:26] <chris_> not ethernet
[09:26] <rob_p> rishi:  Sorry for the delay... other things going on at the moment.  Anyway, I've used GnomeBaker for burning images to CD in the past.  It's in the repos.
[09:26] <CarlK> what is the debian repo that islike... malarient?
[09:27] <DBO> go to your windows box chris_ and enter "//10.0.1.33" into the address bar in explorer (the window that opens when you select My Computer)
[09:27] <jbritz22> rob_p do you know how to burn an img/sub?
[09:27] <holycow> !marillat
[09:27] <ubotu> somebody said marillat was If you enable the marillat repoistories, please disable them after you use them as needed. don't overuse them. Consider using !plf or !seveas instead
[09:27] <CarlK> thats teh one... thaks
[09:27] <chris_> lost you DB0
[09:27] <rishi> rob_p: is it one of the better ones out there?
[09:28] <CarlK> !plf
[09:28] <ubotu> well, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[09:28] <DBO> chris_ where did you lose me?  windows box?  explorer?  where to enter it?
[09:28] <jbritz22> ugh
[09:28] <chris_> Type IP adress in windows explorer? or internet explore in whindows?
[09:28] <jbritz22> linux is so frusturating, cant even burn an img/sub
[09:28] <Eleaf> ?
[09:28] <rob_p> jbritz22:  img/sub?  DVD right?
[09:28] <DBO> chris_, windows explorer
[09:28] <jbritz22> no
[09:28] <jbritz22> cdrom
[09:28] <CarlK> !seveas
[09:28] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:28] <jbritz22> 700mb img
[09:28] <rob_p> rishi:  I think so.  There are many though.
[09:28] <jbritz22> and its got a .ccd file with it
[09:28] <xstation> whats the pastebin url please
[09:28] <rishi> rob_p Thanks i will try it
[09:29] <patrick52222> anto9us: im very new to this what file do i do it in
[09:29] <DBO> !pastebin
[09:29] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[09:29] <holycow> jbritz22: wtf is a sub and wtf would anyone want to use that?
[09:29] <chris_> ok ok got something DB0
[09:29] <chris_> :)
[09:29] <anto9us> patrick52222, you have webmin running? Your question was about webmin.
[09:29] <root> lets try again
[09:29] <root> considering I kicked my internet cable and didn't realize
[09:29] <rishi> is K3B only for KDE? or does it work in gnome too?
[09:29] <rob_p> jbritz22:  Are you looking for a command line tool or a gui based tool for burning it to CD?
[09:29] <DBO> chris_, beautiful, you just havent properly configured samba's netBIOS settings, but you dont really need to if you dont mind connecting that way
[09:29] <patrick52222> anto9us: yes but i cant seem to login
[09:29] <NickGarvey> rishi: works in gnome
[09:30] <BlueHeron> DBO: any chance you could help me with my samba ? :-)
[09:30] <jbritz22> rob_p doesnt matter as long as I can burn it
[09:30] <chris_> ok how do i set it up :)
[09:30] <DBO> BlueHeron, hit me with it
[09:30] <Killgore> is there a similar graphical program to synaptic (but not aptitude)
[09:30] <rishi> jbritz22: i found gnomebaker in synaptic, are you sure you have all the repos up?
[09:30] <NickGarvey> tonyyarusso: did you have something to say regarding me and apt-get?
[09:30] <sfar> Hmm, i have installed mozilla-mplayer and various codecs but i can still not see videos in firefox
[09:30] <sfar> what to do? :)
[09:30] <holycow> jbritz22: i think i smell a warez question cleverly disguised
[09:30] <NickGarvey> !mplayer
[09:30] <BlueHeron> DBO: well i have tried ALL the guides and no matter what i can never seem to connect between the two pc's on my network, both running ubuntu
[09:30] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:30] <rob_p> jbritz22:  Then look into GnomeBaker (gui) and cdrecord (cli).
[09:30] <anto9us> patrick52222, yes, it's the root password, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[09:30] <rishi> Killgore: there is YUM? but, i've only heard about it
[09:31] <DBO> chris_, you have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:31] <NickGarvey> !static
[09:31] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[09:31] <xstation> DBO: its pasted
[09:31] <DBO> xstation, link?
[09:31] <anto9us> patrick52222, an alternative is to set a root password and re-install webmin
[09:31] <chris_> whats the command?
[09:31] <DBO> BlueHeron, do you have any windows clients at all?
[09:31] <BlueHeron> DBO: nope
[09:32] <rishi> rob_p will gnomebaker work in dapper?
[09:32] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[09:32] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:32] <xstation> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ---xstation
[09:32] <DBO> chris_, "sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[09:32] <volvoguy> hey folks. anybody know what "Undefined color: "black"" when trying to run emacs means?
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey, Yeah, 'cat /path/to/list.txt | xargs sudo apt-get remove', iirc.
[09:32] <rob_p> rishi:  I suspect it will, yes.  I don't run Dapper though.
[09:32] <chris_> ok i was in her DB0
[09:32] <DBO> xstation, I need the link to where you pasted your script
[09:32] <chris_> here*
[09:32] <volvoguy> i saw it mentioned in the forums, but no answer was given.
[09:32] <slavik> jbritz22: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=11577
[09:32] <rishi> rob_p...okay, i will aptitude it so i can install it fully if it doesn't
[09:33] <chris_> edit what now?
[09:33] <rob_p> rishi:  Sounds like a plan. :-)
[09:33] <BlueHeron> DBO: i have no idea why it never works, i have followed all the guies
[09:33] <BlueHeron> DBO: guides*
[09:33] <DBO> chris_, where it says workgroup, you need to change it to whatever your windows boxes workgroup is, or you can change your windows box to be on that workgroup
[09:33] <NickGarvey> tonyyarusso: oh thanks a lot, way over my head to find out alone he
[09:33] <NickGarvey> heh*
[09:33] <rishi> jbritz22: sudo aptitude install gnomebaker
[09:33] <DBO> BlueHeron, for straight linux to linux NFS is probably a better way to go
[09:33] <nathanj> does anyone now how to mount a drive via gnome so that its appears on my dsktop i have tried disk manager but i dosesnt make a appaear on my desktop nor does it save my settings when i reboot
[09:34] <chris_> i made my windows worgroup like samba has it
[09:34] <xstation> DBO:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1129
[09:34] <chris_> :)
[09:34] <BlueHeron> DBO: okay, how do i set that up friend ?
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey, I had it in a saved log from a similar question I asked once ;)
[09:34] <DBO> BlueHeron, all in good time, give me a minute to tie up a couple other loose ends in this channel first
[09:34] <BlueHeron> DBO: okay thanks buddy
[09:34] <patrick52222> anto9us: ARRRRRRRh nope it still wont let me log in
[09:34] <NickGarvey> heh thanks
[09:34] <NickGarvey> and considering I am root running irc.. I'll be going
[09:34] <NickGarvey> bad idea heh
[09:35] <DBO> xstation, I dont think you got the right link, just PM the script to me
[09:35] <NickGarvey> okie
[09:35] <Killgore> what is wrong with the ubuntu package search
[09:35] <chris_> DB0 Want My Pastebin :P
[09:36] <slavik> !dapper
[09:36] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:36] <DBO> chris_, yes
[09:36] <holycow> patrick52222: don't forget to change the default permissions to your samba share in the smb.conffile
[09:36] <chris_> Ok DB0 Give me a minute
[09:36] <DBO> blueheron, ubotu sent you the walkthroughs for nfs, make sure you shut down samba
[09:37] <BlueHeron> DBO: okay, can you tell me how to do that? i think i uninstalled it already
[09:37] <xstation> how to PM anyone  please
[09:37] <patrick52222> holycow: im using swat
[09:37] <Killgore> !pm
[09:37] <ubotu> Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[09:37] <slavik> xstation: /msg name message
[09:37] <NickGarvey> xstation: after registering, /msg nameofperson message
[09:37] <DBO> blueheron "sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf"
[09:37] <holycow> patrick52222: good luck with that then
[09:37] <volvoguy> anyone? emacs? undefined color? :-)
[09:37] <anto9us> patrick52222, uninstall webmin, set a root password with sudo passwd, then re-install webmin
[09:37] <BlueHeron> DBO: done
[09:37] <NickGarvey> samba... web administration..
[09:37] <DBO> BlueHeron, then run "sudo sysv-rc-conf" and make sure samba is unchecked in all your runlevels
[09:37] <NickGarvey> whats the t..
[09:38] <BlueHeron> DBO: okay thanks
[09:38] <NickGarvey> !swat
[09:38] <ubotu> I guess swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[09:38] <NickGarvey> ah ha!
[09:38] <holycow> heh brilliant
[09:38] <xstation> NickGravey/slavik in this window i am now
[09:38] <holycow> setup root account, install webmin
[09:38] <holycow> terrific
[09:38] <NickGarvey> xstation: should work fine
[09:38] <slavik> xstation: /msg name message
[09:38] <BlueHeron> DBO: okay done
[09:38] <slavik> xstation: /msg slavik test
[09:38] <DBO> he needs to post a script and hasnt quite got pastebin down slavik
[09:38] <slavik> do that command
[09:39] <slavik> who?
[09:39] <DBO> BlueHeron, ok, samba is dead
[09:39] <slavik> xstation: ?
[09:39] <DBO> yes
[09:39] <slavik> oh
[09:39] <slavik> !pastebin
[09:39] <ubotu> well, pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[09:39] <BlueHeron> DBO: okay i want each PC to be able to view and share files with the other.
[09:39] <slavik> go to the link xstation
[09:39] <NickGarvey> sleep time, its 3:39 here ;)
[09:39] <DBO> BlueHeron, look at the links ubotu sent you, they explain how to set up NFS
[09:39] <xstation> slavik what link
[09:40] <slavik> !pastebin
[09:40] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[09:40] <holycow> BlueHeron: also google sshfs .. its brilliant and simple to setup and use
[09:40] <slavik> that one
[09:40] <bob2_> hi how do i play wmv ?
[09:40] <bob2_> itssays missing codecs...
[09:40] <chris_> DB0 Heres My PasteBIn http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11292
[09:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi holycow
[09:40] <DBO> holycow, good idea
[09:40] <slavik> bob2_: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:41] <nathanj> does anyone now how to mount a drive via gnome so that its appears on my dsktop i have tried disk manager but i dosesnt make a appaear on my desktop nor does it save my settings when i reboot
[09:41] !lilo:*! Hmmmm. Okay, so apparently, if you are in the US, and you are anywhere in Indiana, you will need to change your clock this morning 8)
[09:41] <slavik> I am outfor the night, gnight all
[09:41] <holycow> bob2_: install totem-xine an dinstall w32codecs ... you can read about restricted formats on ubuntu wiki for install w32codecs
[09:41] !lilo:*! Except if you're in the one county that always did, and then maybe not? *scratches his head*
[09:41] <holycow> hola kaiser!
[09:42] <jbritz22> whats this error mean "aclocal-1.6' is needed, and you do not seem to have it handy on............."
[09:42] <xstation> DBO: the link is ok http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11291
[09:42] <patrick52222> holycow: can i change the permissions in swat
[09:42] <DBO> xstation, you missed the last 1 last time
[09:42] !lilo:*! Oh, and everybody else in the US, with the exception of a state or two, is also doing their yearly switch to Daylight Savings time too. 8) I guess I didn't make that clear.
[09:42] <volvoguy> i'll try elsewhere. thx.
[09:42] <holycow> patrick52222: no idea, i preffer to actually understand what is going on and work in config files
[09:43] !lilo:*! And apparently the same thing is happening in Canada. Jeez, guys, let up! :)
[09:43] <holycow> patrick52222: i only use gui frontends once i understand what is going on, because they are meant just to streamline those things that can be automated or are repetitive
[09:43] !lilo:*! it's scary.... the April Fool's joke was *yesterday*....why does Daylight Savings Time sound so much like April 1 redux? 8)
[09:43] <rishi> Problem...when i try to unmount a cd, it won't let me and says i only root can unmount it.  how do i fix it?
[09:43] <DBO> chris_ yes I saw, and you are saying it doesnt show up in the windows network neighborhood?
[09:43] <holycow> patrick52222: not preaching, just explaining btw, if you need help with swat check google or their mailing lists
[09:43] <bob2_> holycow it says no version for w32codecs?
[09:44] <chris_> how do i allow network neighbor hood to see it?
[09:44] <patrick52222> holycow: ark ok
[09:44] <holycow> bob2_: heres a thought: google
[09:44] !lilo:*! sheesh, some states in Australia fell back today 8)
[09:44] <holycow> bob2_: i had to look it up like 12 minutes ago my self
[09:44] !lilo:*! and if you need the fancy reminder phrase, it's: "Spring Forward, Fall Back." :)
[09:44] <holycow> its one of the first 3 links infact, directly to the wiki
[09:44] <rishi> Problem...when i try to unmount a cd, it won't let me and says i only root can unmount it.  how do i fix it?
[09:45] <DBO> chris_, try commenting out the netbios name bits
[09:45] <holycow> rishi: sudo umount /where/whatever to start
[09:45] <majd> Hey, what's metacity as opposed to GTK?
[09:45] <holycow> rishi: second, don't mount as root maybe?
[09:45] <holycow> majd: your comparison is invalid
[09:45] !lilo:*! I'm told that Ben Franklin first proposed daylight savings time, but that it was first implemented (widely?) in World War II. And someone from Canada tells me that Canada switches to DST "... except Fort St. John, Charlie Lake, Taylor, Dawson Creek, and most of Saskatchewan."
[09:45] <DBO> add # at the front of the line chris_
[09:46] <rishi> holycow: i didn't mount as root....oh, maybe i did while i was installing something...
[09:46] <holycow> majd: your comparing trucks to soccer balls
[09:46] <BlueHeron> holycow: sshfs looks great, gonna try it
[09:46] <holycow> rishi: chances are yes *nod*
[09:46] <BlueHeron> holycow: it has a gui doesn't it?
[09:46] <xstation> DBO: when yo have a minute
[09:46] <DBO> xstation, looks fine to me, but it looks rather wierd
[09:46] !lilo:*! "Little known fact: Daylight Savings Time is not widely observed on Earth's moon."
[09:46] <rishi> holycow: haha...i know it.  Do i umount
[09:46] !lilo:*! (okay, I just threw that in 8)
[09:46] <xstation> DBO: but its ok
[09:46] <DBO> chris_, sorry, infront of the lines that start with "netbios name"
[09:46] <rishi> holycow: /dev/hdc or /media/cdrom0
[09:46] <DBO> xstation, yeah... I suppose it is
[09:46] <majd> holycow, no i know, i just wanna know what each is (sorry about misworded question
[09:46] <holycow> BlueHeron: no, ssh has no gui in the way you are thinking, follow the instructions and set up one share and watch
[09:47] <BlueHeron> holycow: okay
[09:47] <holycow> rishi: /media/whatever
[09:47] <DBO> xstation, then again, my linux scripting is rusty, you could probably add a rm -rf /* in there and I would miss it
[09:47] <holycow> majd: gtk is a toolkit used to create gnome graphical apps
[09:47] <xstation> DBO: so if I put in postfix kequm
[09:48] <rishi> holycow: thanks man, appreciate it.  this whole time i was typing in unmount, not umount
[09:48] <DBO> chris_, for now yes
[09:48] <xstation> etc just a spce after each name
[09:48] <holycow> majd: metacity is a window manager, you write an app in gtk, but when the user runs it, metacity determines how windows are managed and behave
[09:48] <chris_> :)
[09:48] <xstation> DBO: your to modest
[09:48] <holycow> rishi: no worries stupid shit like that always gets ya
[09:48] <DBO> chris_, go see if anything shows up in network neighborhood
[09:48] <Killgore> can i add any random debian repos to my sources.list?
[09:49] <DBO> xstation, no, Im honest, shell scripting always gave me headaches... I suck at following the logic of other peoples scripts
[09:49] <DBO> chris_, Ill pastebin mine and you can see what a working one looks like
[09:49] <chris_> can i use yours :P
[09:50] <patrick52222> replace the asterisk in the first line with the password you aquired from /etc/shadow, i get this root:$1$e/9mjoasd$asdasljjwynSD42   wat do i replace
[09:50] <DBO> chris_ for the most part, yes, you could
[09:51] <chris_> well thanks, gnu agreement thanks
[09:51] <DBO> chris_ all you'll need to look at is the hosts allow bit and of course the share that is defined at the end
[09:51] <DBO> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11293
[09:51] <chris_> ok , lil confused what ur talking about :P
[09:52] <chris_> ok i pasted it into mine
[09:52] <chris_> what shud i change?
[09:53] <DBO> just scan through it, you'll see a line that starts "hosts allow" you probably need to edit that to say "10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1"
[09:53] !lilo:*! Whoops, WWI, not WWII
[09:53] <chris_> DBO Want to PM me?
[09:53] <DBO> chris_, negative
[09:53] <chris_> ok
[09:54] <chris_> found hosts allow
[09:54] <chris_> :)
[09:54] <DBO> chris_, now look at the end, Im sure you can figure out how to change that last bit for your tastes (very last 5 or so lines)
[09:54] <bob2_> sudo/quit
[09:54] <xstation> DBO; i installed the 686 kernel yesterday but I ran the insQEMU.sh BEFORE i installed the kernal what I did to make the sh worh while in 386 kernel was this  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  so what I did I installe the headers the scit worked but NOW i have installed the ACTUAL kernal should I run the script again sorry its a bit long
[09:54] <xstation> DBO: work
[09:54] <chris_> im so confused!
[09:54] <DBO> xstation, you will need to recompile
[09:55] <chris_> want to give me a hand DBO
[09:55] <chris_> :)
[09:55] <chris_> I am on wirless
[09:55] <DBO> chris_, sure, do an ifconfig and tell me your ip and subnet mask
[09:55] <chris_> all my computers are
[09:55] <patrick52222> replace the asterisk in the first line with the password you aquired from /etc/shadow, i get this root:$1$kwO29R4L$1U8cJYwBGV5eTbyd6r5aV/2   wat do i replace
[09:55] <xstation> DBO: run the script again?
[09:55] <BlueHeron> holycow: got it working, thanks so much man
[09:55] <BlueHeron> DBO: sshfs is nicer then NFS :-)
[09:55] <chris_> chris@ubuntu:~$ ifconfig
[09:55] <chris_> ath0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:B5:A4:EE:47
[09:55] <chris_>           inet addr:10.0.1.33  Bcast:10.0.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
[09:55] <chris_>           inet6 addr: fe80::20f:b5ff:fea4:ee47/64 Scope:Link
[09:56] <holycow> BlueHeron: no worries
[09:56] <DBO> BlueHeron, I like it too for small usage, just dont try to deploy that large scale
[09:57] <DBO> chris_, good, now tell me what folder you want to share
[09:57] <BlueHeron> DBO: large scale such as?
[09:57] <holycow>  BlueHeron note one thing: sshfs of course is using ssh, meaning everything is encrypted.  you can mount remote drives over the net if you like depending on your ability to configure firewalls and routing properly
[09:57] <chris_> In Linux?
[09:57] <DBO> file share server
[09:57] <DBO> chris_, yes
[09:57] <chris_> My Home Folder :)
[09:57] <chris_> Has Everything
[09:57] <BlueHeron> holycow: yea, i got my ssh allset up in my router with a port over 1024 :-)
[09:57] <DBO> chris_, what is the path to your home folder?
[09:57] <holycow> and DBO is correct about large usage of course :)
[09:57] <chris_>  / home
[09:57] <xstation> DBO: so run the script again ? what I have done is  sudo mv /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2 /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2.bck
[09:57] <BlueHeron> what do you mean large scale usage?
[09:58] <chris_> i belive
[09:58] <BlueHeron> like big files?
[09:58] <DBO> chris_, well what is your username in linux...
[09:58] <chris_> chris
[09:58] <DBO> ok
[09:58] <holycow> BlueHeron: no for file sharing in companiesw where you have hundreds or thousands of users running it simultaneously
[09:58] <chris_> do i need to change the hosts allow?
[09:58] <BlueHeron> holycow: oh it should work great for my home network right?
[09:58] <chris_> to like 10.0.1.33?
[09:59] <chris_> or 10.0.1.01?
[09:59] <majd> anyone have the VistaBut.tar.gz file handy?
[09:59] <holycow> BlueHeron: yep
[09:59] <DBO> chris_, what workgroup name are you using?
[10:00] <BlueHeron> holycow: how do i have it mount shares at bootup ?
[10:00] <chris_> workgroup
[10:00] <DBO> chris_, I am making a new one for you
[10:00] <chris_> well thanks :)
[10:00] <chris_> DBO I Appreciate it :)
[10:00] <DBO> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11295
[10:00] <DBO> try that
[10:00] <xstation> DBO: run the script insQEMU.sh again
[10:00] <holycow> BlueHeron: i forget the exact sequence ... you need to run it on login in your session manager
[10:00] <DBO> xstation, if you changed your kernel you may have to recompile
[10:00] <BlueHeron> holycow: oh i know how to do that, just use the mount command right?
[10:01] <holycow> BlueHeron: that i can't remember, i remember some funkyness about that, google it
[10:01] <chris_> ok saved it
[10:01] <BlueHeron> holycow: okay
[10:01] <xstation> DBO: recomplie means?
[10:01] <DBO> chris_, once you have it in place, "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[10:01] <DBO> xstation, run the script again...
[10:01] <DBO> xstation, =)
[10:02] <chris_> ok
[10:02] <chris_> omg it worked!!!
[10:02] <chris_> DBO How To Thank You...!!
[10:02] <DBO> chris_, that will be two cups of coffee
[10:02] <chris_> :)
[10:02] <CrashProne> This may be more GNOME than Ubuntu, but... how can I possibly set GNOME so that I can switch virtual desktops with a flick of my mouse scrollwheel?
[10:02] <chris_> Now I Can Interact With Windows And Linux?
[10:02] <chris_> By Sharing?! :)
[10:02] <DBO> yes
[10:02] <chris_> DBO Thank You So Much
[10:03] <CrashProne> You mean Samba?
[10:03] <chris_> *hugs*
[10:03] <xstation> DBO: so doing  sudo mv /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2 /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2.bck
[10:03] <xstation>  is a good idea?
[10:03] <chris_> Your Tha Mand!!!
[10:03] <DBO> chris_, you're gushing
[10:03] <chris_> Man*
[10:03] <Killgore> chris_: hugs???
[10:03] <holycow> CrashProne: put your mouse on the virtual desktop dealy and roll mouse?
[10:03] <DBO> xstation, change the mv to cp
[10:03] <chris_> lol well hand shake
[10:03] <holycow> indeed, you are gushing
[10:04] <cafuego_> CrashProne: you could remap mouse buttons using 'xev' probably.
[10:04] <CrashProne> holycow: Awhh!  That's all well and good, but I had come to love the whole rolling mouse on the background, but that's ok too...
[10:04] <pc22> how do i change a default mediaplayer?  this case: external protocol request: totem,   how do i change this to Mplayer?
[10:04] <Killgore> how do i install a package i just downloaded? it is a .deb
[10:04] <chris_> Thanks again DBO
[10:04] <chris_> :)
[10:04] <xstation> DBO if I have already done  sudo mv /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2 /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2.bck
[10:04] <xstation>  should i Still cp ?
[10:05] <CrashProne> Killgore: 'dpkg -i [package] '
[10:05] <DBO> Killgore, "sudo dpkg -i <file>"
[10:05] <CrashProne> Yeah... with the sudo
[10:06] <DBO> xstation, well the file is no longer at the source now, so your would  have to reverse where the positioning of the .bck is in that command, but yes, you should
[10:06] <annie_> harisund: are you still online ?
[10:06] <DBO> xstation, why do you always ask questions that make my brain hurt?
[10:06] <DBO> =P
[10:07] <xstation> DBO: umm think I understand so the line is  sudo cp /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2 /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2.bck
[10:07] <halfconscious> Hi. I've just installed 5.1 and am confused because I was not promted for root password and don't know what it is! Any ideas please?
[10:07] <DBO> xstation, you already ran the mv command?
[10:07] <xstation> DBO: i will send you some cuons for nice coffee
[10:07] <annie_> can anyone help me solve a networking issue between 2 machines both using ubuntu and connected via a crossover cable ?
[10:07] <xstation> DBO: yes done mv command
[10:07] <DBO> " sudo cp /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2.bck /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2"
[10:08] <xstation> DBO: cupons
[10:08] <DBO> coupons
[10:08] <DBO> its ok, I was just joking about the coffee, I drink mountain dew
[10:08] <xstation> DBO: they get you free cofffee from starbucks
[10:09] <rob_p> halfconscious:  Root login is disabled by default.  There is no root password unless you assign one.  Pretty much everything that requires root privs can be accomplished by using sudo.
[10:09] <annie_> please !
[10:09] <CrashProne> halfconscious: Debian, as well as Ubuntu, operates under the way of the 'sudo' command instead of 'su'... your first account will be able to 'sudo [command] ' to do it as super-user, upon entry of password after you enter the command.
[10:09] <DBO> annie_, did you manually assign IP addresses yet?
[10:09] <chris_> DBO how do i browse windows now?
[10:09] <annie_> DBO: yes, on both machines
[10:09] <tokeman> hello
[10:09] <DBO> chris_, you would have to set up a share on the windows machine
[10:09] <xstation> DBO: sorry to give your brain a push so done the mv command already so now do cp or not?
[10:09] <rob_p> annie_:  Are the machines networked properly?
[10:09] <IamEthos> does anyone know of a compiled release of kxdocker for gnome?
[10:10] <DBO> annie_, ok, can you ping the other machine?
[10:10] <chris_> And how do i browse it with ubuntu?
[10:10] <CrashProne> I should set up a Samba share on my network sometime...
[10:10] <IamEthos> like, an up to date one
[10:10] <CrashProne> Keep procrastinating.
[10:10] <tokeman> I just installed ubuntu,,alike it so far
[10:10] <DBO> chris_, Places -> Network Servers
[10:10] <chris_> whoa!
[10:10] <chris_> there it is!!!
[10:10] <dark_light> how can i convert ogg to mp3?
[10:10] <halfconscious> Thanks! This is first time linux on a laptop for me - is there an easy way to reconfigure the wireless to use encryption? At present it is off
[10:10] <chris_> damn DBO ur good!
[10:11] <BlueHeron> where is the OpenSSH server config file at?
[10:11] <chris_> :) Thanks so much!!
[10:11] <DBO> chris_, yeah that GUI was a sun of a gun... =P
[10:11] <xstation> chris: DBO is the best
[10:11] <BlueHeron> !ssh
[10:11] <ubotu> from memory, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[10:11] <chris_> Revolution.OS.DVDRip.XviD DBO Want Me To Send It !? :)
[10:11] <holycow> dbo, heh
[10:11] <hyphenated> DBO: it's me, I'm your number one fan
[10:11] <chris_> i Owe you!!
[10:12] <kditty> !restricted file
[10:12] <ubotu> kditty: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:12] <kditty> hrm
[10:12] <holycow> DBO: thats whatyou get when answering totally off topic questions :)
[10:12] <xstation> chris coffee cupons
[10:12] <hyphenated> can you share pirated movies in other channels, please? thanks
[10:12] <chris_> where you from DBO !?
[10:12] <patrick52222> still cant login to webmin
[10:12] <kditty> !restricted formats
[10:12] <ubotu> I guess restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[10:12] <DBO> chris_, chill man, its not big deal, Im putting off real work, this is more fun
[10:12] <xstation> DBO:: sorry to give your brain a push so done the mv command already so now do cp or not?
[10:12] <chris_> DBO Well Thank You :)
[10:13] <annie_> DBO: just verifying both can ping each other ..
[10:13] <DBO> xstation, yes
[10:13] <chris_> :P
[10:13] <DBO> annie_, they can?
[10:13] <tag_> Anyone use a USB sound device?
[10:13] <DBO> thanks chris_
[10:13] <chris_> your welcome :)
[10:13] <arne_> hoi
[10:13] <DBO> annie_, I hate to say it, but what makes you think your network ISNT working?
[10:13] <DBO> what are you trying to do?
[10:13] <annie_> DBO: they could, but have lost it since fiddling ... stand by
[10:14] <chris_> have a great night everyone ! thanks for the help and all everyone ;) DBO espically
[10:14] <DBO> standing by
[10:14] <xstation> DBO as in sudo cp /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2 /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2.bc?
[10:14] <arne_> does any body know how to istall limewire on linux ubuntu?
[10:14] <DBO> xstation, no, the command I posted to you earlier
[10:14] <Madpilot> !limewire
[10:14] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[10:14] <chris_> arne i know how!
[10:14] <chris_> :)
[10:14] <chris_> i got the deb
[10:15] <chris_> well you can download the rpm and convert it to deb
[10:15] <chris_> :P
[10:15] <DBO> chris_, converting rpms is risky, good way to break stuff
[10:15] <chris_> DBO i am sorry
[10:15] <chris_> :/
[10:15] <DBO> perfectly alright, we all have to learn some way
[10:15] <chris_> Let You Have The Fun Then :)
[10:15] <chris_> Take care now DBO
[10:16] <chris_> :)
[10:16] <xstation> DBO: you said change mv to cp? i have done mv so now its sudo cp /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2 /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2.bc?
[10:16] <DBO> "sudo cp /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2.bc /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2"
[10:16] <xstation> DBO: thanks
[10:16] <kurei> hi, are terminal and x window the same?
[10:16] <DBO> kurei, no
[10:17] <kurei> tnx dbo
[10:17] <kurei> so where do i find the x window?
[10:17] <DBO> kurei, x window is the whole GUI
[10:17] <annie_> DBO: please let me explain .. machine 1 has ath0 (wireless) and eth0 (wired). My wireless router is 192.168.0.1 which is what the gateway is set for ath0
[10:17] <DBO> well, its the app the gui runs on
[10:17] <kurei> oh... tnx bdo
[10:17] <DBO> annie_, ok, follow so far
[10:18] <annie_> DBO: my eth0 is the one wired using the x-over to machine 2
[10:18] <DBO> and you want to share the internet?
[10:18] <annie_> DBO: no, i want to copy files from machine 1 to machine 2
[10:19] <halfconscious> Anyone, do you know how to reconfigure the wireless to use encryption -  I disabled it to get going..
[10:19] <DBO> annie_, can they ping each other?
[10:19] <kurei> i just installed yahoo messenger... where do i launch it?
[10:20] <DBO> kurei, is it in your applications launcher?
[10:20] <majd> grrrr i want the VistaBut theme.....
[10:20] <kurei> nope
[10:20] <nornagon> I get crackly sound when I play a sound with 'play', but not with 'aplay'. Zsnes also produces crackly sound (like play), though snes9x does not. My sound driver is snd-hda-intel. Can anyone help me make play/zsnes not-crackly?
[10:20] <rob_p> halfconscious:  Use the, "wireless-key" directive in your /etc/network/interfaces file, for the wireless interface.
[10:20] <kurei> but i was able to launch it in the terminal
[10:20] <DBO> kurei, what was that command?
[10:20] <halfconscious> rob_p : Thanks!
[10:20] <annie_> DBO: no .. what should I set the gateway to for machine 1 eth0
[10:21] <kurei> Run /usr/bin/ymessenger from X Window to launch the application.
[10:21] <rob_p> halfconscious:  welc
[10:21] <DBO> annie_, nothing, it crossover wont use it anyhow
[10:21] <annie_> DBO: ok .. so should I leave it empty ?
[10:21] <DBO> kurei, ok, go Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[10:22] <DBO> annie_, yes
[10:22] <DBO> kurei, click on "internet" on the left, then click the new entry button
[10:22] <xstation> DBO: bit of a mess see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11298 sorry DBO
[10:22] <Madpilot> kurei, doesn't gaim work for yahoo messenger too?
[10:23] <patrick52222> eight im now logged into webmin how do i get it to run apaech2
[10:23] <DBO> kurei, name = Yahoo Instant Messanger, Comment = Chat online (or whatever), Command = /usr/bin/ymessenger
[10:23] <DBO> Madpilot, shhh dont open that can of worms
[10:24] <Madpilot> DBO, if there's an app that already does the job, why mess about with something else that doesn't even add itself to the menus?
[10:24] <xstation> Madpilot: its java in liunx I do not like
[10:24] <annie_> DBO:  both machines say the other is unreachable when I ping
[10:24] <Madpilot> xstation, what?
[10:24] <patrick52222> how do i link webmin to apache 2
[10:24] <DBO> Madpilot, because he already installed it, might as well teach him how to make a launcher, he will have to do it sometime
[10:24] <DBO> xstation, I dont know man...
[10:25] <DBO> annie_, what IP's did you set?  and what subnet masks?
[10:25] <annie_> DBO:  my default gateway device is also set to ath0
[10:25] <kurei> tnx dbo, now i know how to add new apps
[10:25] <xstation> DBO: nevermind I will just delete the whole thing and try something else
[10:25] <DBO> xstation, ok
[10:26] <neoxan> moin :)
[10:26] <rob_p> annie_:  When you do, "ifconfig" on each machine, do your wired interfaces show up?
[10:26] <ttyso4> moinmoin!
[10:26] <hrtp> ok, i have a windows partition, which is ntfs, is there any way to mount this, so i can access files from it, i am dual booting
[10:26] <kurei> madpilot, i just preffer yahoo messenger than gaim =)
[10:26] <annie_> machine 1 : eth0 192.168.0.9  ath0 = 192.168.0.7
[10:26] <Frogzoo> hrtp: read only
[10:26] <Madpilot> kurei, fair enough
[10:26] <holycow> !ntfs
[10:26] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:26] <Frogzoo> !tell hrtp about ntfs
[10:26] <annie_> machine 1 .. yes
[10:26] <BlueHeron> holycow: wow sshfs is nice ... to say the least
[10:26] <xstation> DBO: get rid of linux ubuntu go to windows 2000 server install vmware and ubuntu as guest then i am in control holycow
[10:26] <foxpaul> anybody know if xgl+dapper works with xinerama yet?
[10:26] <annie_> DBO: machine 2 yes
[10:26] <kurei> yes hrtp, thats the fist thing i did after installing ubuntu
[10:27] <DBO> annie_, back to the ip's
[10:27] <ttyso4> @hrtp: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdaX /win
[10:27] <hrtp> what's "/win" supposed to be?
[10:27] <Frogzoo> foxpaul: try #ubuntu+1
[10:27] <foxpaul> Frogzoo: ok thanks
[10:27] <DBO> hrtp, thats its mount directory
[10:28] <annie_> DBO: yep .. machine 2 eth0 192.168.0.6
[10:28] <Frogzoo> hrtp: sounds like a mount point for a doze partition - 'sudo mkdir /win'
[10:28] <kurei> but i'll let the experts guide you properly... im just a newbie on this thing :) @hrtp
[10:28] <DBO> you will have to do a "sudo mkdir /win" before that command will work
[10:28] <xstation> Frogzoo: it was you who said mv command testerday now its all a mess
[10:28] <kurei> is dbo a bot?
[10:28] <patrick52222> anyone know how to link webmin to apache2
[10:28] <Frogzoo> xstation: what went wrong?
[10:28] <DBO> annie_, subnet masks?
[10:28] <nornagon> I get crackly sound when I play a sound with 'play', but not with 'aplay'. Zsnes also produces crackly sound (like play), though snes9x does not. My sound driver is snd-hda-intel. Could it possibly be a problem with oss emulation? If so, how can I fix it?
[10:28] <DBO> kurei, some would say yes
[10:28] <annie_> rob_p: yes
[10:29] <rob_p> annie_:  Are both machines in the same subnet (ex: 255.255.255.0)?
[10:29] <kurei> darn, you answer so fast @dbo
[10:29] <annie_> DBO: subnet machine 1: 255.255.255.0 same for machine 2
[10:29] <Frogzoo> nornagon: u using oss or alsa or esd?
[10:29] <DBO> annie_, lets try moving them off the same subnet as your wireless
[10:29] <DBO> change their IP's to 192.168.1.x
[10:30] <nornagon> Frogzoo: alsa
[10:30] <xstation> Frogzoo for starters you told me to do mv as in sudo mv /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2 /root/qemu-src/qemu-0.7.2.bck
[10:30] <xstation>  today I was told BY DBO to do cp  see the mess in  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11298
[10:30] <crimsun> nornagon: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[10:31] <chris_> Samba is working great but 1 thing
[10:31] <DBO> xstation, thats a result of your mv command :-P
[10:31] <Frogzoo> nornagon: not sure what the problem is - but maybe try amarok with the xine engine?
[10:31] <nornagon> crimsun: 0: Realtek ALC880
[10:31] <DBO> xstation, I was just trying to undo your renaming the file (while keeping the backup)
[10:31] <crimsun> nornagon: try following the instructions being sent to you in query
[10:31] <Frogzoo> xstation: finger pointing isn't going to help fix the problem...
[10:31] <chris_> i have music shared , on my windows pc, i shared the hard drive and how do i play the music in linux without the trouble of copying and pasteing it?
[10:32] <BlueHeron> DBO: do you have any idea why when using sshfs it tells me no free space on the remote computer when that;s not the case?
[10:32] <Den> Hi - Where can I get the package   "network-admin"   mentioined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto   Ubuntu ships with a fantastic GUI network tool called network-admin. It can be run from a terminal but it is also readily available under the system menu. (System)->(Administration)->(Networking). - I'm running Kubuntu Dapper.
[10:32] <DBO> BlueHeron, no
[10:32] <xstation> DBO; ok sorry its all my fault I am a dunbo
[10:32] <xstation> DUMBO
[10:32] <nornagon> crimsun: you mean, just build it from source? Why would that help?
[10:32] <kurei> tnx for the help dbo... im outta here
[10:32] <nornagon> (not saying it wouldn't, just wondering)
[10:32] <DBO> xstation, hey man, relax, lets not point fingers at anyone, especially ourselves
[10:32] <Madpilot> Den, try #ubuntu+1 for Dapper, or #kubuntu for Kubuntu questions
[10:33] <purplefeltangel> whoa, 645 users. that comparison matrix dude was right. O_O
[10:33] <Madpilot> purplefeltangel, the who?
[10:33] <Den> Madpilot: thx
[10:33] <xstation> DBO: yes thats true every action has a reaction all thoughts come back to the Self
[10:33] <crimsun> nornagon: read carefully. The instructions are for a newer version of ALSA than what comes in the kernel.
[10:33] <annie_> DBO: excellent .. done ..both ping ok
[10:33] <DBO> annie_, now you need to set up file shares
[10:33] <albacker> guys what is used for reading .tex files ?
[10:33] <chris_> i have music shared , on my windows pc, i shared the hard drive and how do i play the music in linux without the trouble of copying and pasteing it? *I double click the music on the hard drive and it wont play unless i copy and paste it
[10:33] <Frogzoo> xstation: so what's the problem? (btw to copy directories, it's 'cp -r')
[10:34] <DBO> annie_, can you handle that? or do you need help?
[10:34] <purplefeltangel> madpilot: this guy http://www.devx.com/opensource/Article/30781/0/page/2
[10:34] <chris_> in samba network
[10:34] <polopolo> I want help ubuntu
[10:34] <Frogzoo> polopolo: wassup?
[10:34] <annie_> DBO: although they can ping, i cannot get them to fileshare .. i have ssh set up onm both
[10:34] <chaoticgeek> hello all
[10:34] <DBO> chris_, I believe you have to mount the samba share to actually play from network...
[10:34] <DBO> annie_, can you ssh from one PC to the other?
[10:34] <polopolo> I want help the ubuntu team
[10:35] <annie_> DBO:  no
[10:35] <xstation> Frogzoo/DBO thanks for your help so before i run the script again what is the beat way forward please
[10:35] <Frogzoo> polopolo: this is the ubuntu support chan - see the banner ^^
[10:35] <chaoticgeek> 312 updates I have to install, almost done though :)
[10:35] <chris_> DBO Want to walk me through it for anothing coffee :P
[10:35] <albacker> chris_, that's why i use only linux..
[10:35] <chris_> another*
[10:35] <Frogzoo> xstation: make clean; & then run the script
[10:35] <DBO> chris_, walk through what?
[10:35] <nornagon> crimsun: btw, I'm running dapper.
[10:35] <chaoticgeek> I'm running drapper too
[10:35] <chris_> Mounting .mp3's?
[10:35] <crimsun> polopolo: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[10:35] <annie_> DBO:  you mean ssh username@machine2
[10:35] <chris_> on my hard drive into samba
[10:35] <pschulz01> After a 'git clone' how do 'restock' the working directory?
[10:35] <DBO> annie_, I hate to ask the obvious question, but erm, did you account for the new IP's?
[10:36] <crimsun> nornagon: sigh, please discuss in #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <nornagon> crimsun: ah, sorry.
[10:36] <DBO> annie_, do you have sshd running on those machines as well?
[10:36] <pschulz01> sorry.. wrong channel
[10:36] <xstation> Frogzoo: command line to run make clean in which directory please
[10:36] <DBO> chris_, yeah, if I knew how, I will have to google directions and try them out first...
[10:37] <chris_> ok well ill google it :)
[10:37] <DBO> thanks =)
[10:37] <chris_> was going to try that ill do it now thanks
[10:37] <chris_> if i find something ill let you know
[10:37] <annie_> DBO:  yes .. i used the new IP's
[10:37] <DBO> sorry annie_ i just had to make sure, ok
[10:37] <chris_> dont want to mess up the samba script
[10:37] <chris_> :P
[10:37] <Frogzoo> xstation: do you have a copy of the install script?
[10:37] <DBO> annie_, do a "ps -ef | grep sshd"
[10:37] <annie_> DBO:  not sure, but ssh to "localhost" works on both machines
[10:37] <DBO> on one of the boxes
[10:38] <Den> Hi - Anyone heard of this package "network-admin"   mentioined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto   I'm asking here cause I got no response in #ubuntu+1 nor #kubuntu.  Is it a GNOME related package?  Anyone know anything about it?
[10:38] <DBO> ok, so it must be running...
[10:38] <DBO> hmmm, it should be able to connect...
[10:38] <xstation> Frogzoo: no need to make backup you changed your mind a few times yesterday thats fine and I know you mean well but please be sure I have the script which I downloaded if that what you mean
[10:39] <annie_> DBO: not sure how to interpret the result
[10:39] <venky> hello anyone knows how to upgrade to flight 6
[10:39] <DBO> annie_, does anything say sshd?
[10:39] <BlueHeron> anyoner here use SSHFS ?
[10:39] <DBO> other than "grep sshd"
[10:39] <venky> i mean how to set up synaptics to do it
[10:39] <annie_> DBO:  five out of six responses do .. yes
[10:40] <roryy> Den: the file /usr/bin/network-admin is part of the 'gnome-system-tools' package
[10:40] <DBO> annie_, O_O
[10:40] <DBO> pastebin the output please
[10:40] <roryy> Den: i have never used kubuntu, but i'd guess it has a similar thing. Have you asked in #kubuntu ?
[10:40] <xstation> roryy many thanks for yesterday it works fine and I can use nano now thanks
[10:40] <Frogzoo> xstation: ok - first we'll remove the entire build directory 'sudo rm -rf /root/qemu-src/*'
[10:40] <annie_> DBO:  root      8084     1  0 Mar23 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[10:40] <annie_> root     27262  8084  0 16:52 ?        00:00:00 sshd: annie [priv] 
[10:40] <annie_> annie    27273 27262  0 16:52 ?        00:00:00 sshd: annie@pts/2
[10:40] <annie_> root     29134  8084  0 17:42 ?        00:00:00 sshd: annie [priv] 
[10:40] <annie_> annie    29138 29134  0 17:42 ?        00:00:00 sshd: annie@pts/4
[10:40] <annie_> annie    31063 30857  0 18:38 pts/0    00:00:00 grep sshd
[10:41] <Frogzoo> annie_: *my eyes!!*
[10:41] <DBO> annie_, hehe, when I said pastebin I meant the website
[10:41] <Frogzoo> (please don't paste)
[10:41] <Eleaf> MY EYES!
[10:41] <DBO> Frogzoo, I think thats my fault...
[10:41] <Eleaf> I'm just kidding I copied you Frogzoo
[10:41] <Eleaf> just so you know.
[10:41] <venky> does anyone know how to setup synaptics to upgrade to dapper drake flight 6
[10:41] <roryy> xstation: good stuff (i assume you're the partition resizer)
[10:41] <Eleaf> lol
[10:41] <Frogzoo> :)
[10:41] <Den> roryy: Do you know the name of the package I'd need to install to get it?  I searched for "network-admin" in the Adept package manager, & got no results.  Would I have to install the entire 'gnome system'tools' package?
[10:41] <DBO> annie_, you havent been trying to start sshd on your own have you?
[10:41] <annie_> 10,000 apologies
[10:41] <hrtp> do you have to have a faster pc to run qemu?
[10:41] <chris_> DBO check this out! http://blackfin.uclinux.org/frs/shownotes.php?group_id=14&release_id=144
[10:42] <Frogzoo> annie_: s'cool
[10:42] <annie_> DBO: I am not sure
[10:42] <roryy> Den: yeah, and that would entail installing a good chunk of gnome
[10:42] <Eleaf> annie_, ;)
[10:42] <chris_> want to give me a hand :)
[10:42] <tony_> hi I am using Ubuntu, Breezy Badger. My DVD rom is Region - 1. Can I use any of the players to play Region - 3 DVDs?
[10:42] <Frogzoo> !tell chris_ about helpme
[10:42] <annie_> DBO: what is this pastebin website?
[10:42] <DBO> annie_, you have lots of sshd running and Im not exactly sure why
[10:42] <DBO> !paste
[10:42] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:42] <BlueHeron> how do i set a quota of how much space a user can use?
[10:42] <annie_> DBO: me either
[10:42] <hrtp> !qemu
[10:42] <ubotu> well, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[10:43] <xstation> Frogzoo: ok you are in charge here please remember that I have put kequm in the modules folder so its rm -rf /root/qemu-scr/*
[10:43] <chris_> dbo Ho do i set up  NetAudio-patch_2.tar.gz and boa_samba_2.tar.gz.
[10:43] <roryy> DBO: afaik each client connection results in a new sshd process (or perhaps thread? not sure)
[10:43] <annie_> I have been trying to get this link thingy working for a couple of hours .. my brain is fried I think
[10:43] <Den> roryy: How can I find out how much disk space it will take to install it?
[10:43] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: man quotactl - beware quotas suck a lot of cpu
[10:43] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: they do?
[10:43] <chris_> http://blackfin.uclinux.org/frs/shownotes.php?group_id=14&release_id=144
[10:43] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: i just want to give it like 20GB no way to set that in stone like once?
[10:44] <DBO> roryy, I didnt think each client resulted in a new deamon process on the server...
[10:44] <tony_> hi anyone please help me with my DVD play back? Thanks in advance :-)
[10:44] <roryy> Den: the apt tools (I think it's Kynaptic on Kubuntu) should tell you before beginning the install; I know apt-get, on the command-line, does
[10:44] <DBO> roryy, plus she says she cant connect
[10:44] <DBO> chris_, no idear
[10:44] <chris_> DBO ok thanks
[10:44] <Frogzoo> xstation: run that command to blow away the existing build directory, then just run the script again & you're good
[10:44] <roryy> DBO: i think it forks off a process for each connection. I'm 75% sure about this ;)
[10:44] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: give that user a /home that's on a 20gig partition
[10:45] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: hmm, i already have 4 partitions ;\
[10:45] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: all primary?
[10:45] <DBO> annie_, you want to share files right?
[10:45] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: yep
[10:45] <DBO> annie_, why not just use samba or NFS?
[10:45] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: forget the quota i guess ;-(
[10:45] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: what's on hda4 ?
[10:46] <BlueHeron> my /home
[10:46] <annie_> DBO: I want to copy or move files from mach 1 to mach 2
[10:46] <xstation> Frogzoo also in /home/bliss1/qeum which has a os.img in it and the kqemu-0.2.kmdr in it?
[10:46] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: could you back up home & recreate the home partition as an extended partition?
[10:46] <annie_> DBO: i don't know how to do it so I cane here and asked for help
[10:46] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: don't worry about it :-)
[10:46] <DBO> annie_, ok I can walk you through samba setup
[10:47] <BlueHeron> can anyone help me with this ? http://pastebin.com/635450
[10:47] <annie_> DBO:  great ..
[10:47] <Frogzoo> xstation: the kqemu script doesn't touch your home directory, so it makes no difference
[10:47] <DBO> annie_, tell me the IP's of machine 1 and machine 2
[10:47] <annie_> DBO: mach 1 : 192.168.1.9  machine 2: 192.168.
[10:47] <xstation> Frogzoo: ok I will do as suggested
[10:47] <annie_> DBO:  mach 2: 192.168.1.6
[10:48] <DBO> annie_, ok, what folder do you want to share?
[10:48] <roryy> BlueHeron: at a guess you're missing some header files, or the build configuration  (./configure) went wrong
[10:48] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: check the INSTALL & README - you're most likely missing header files
[10:48] <annie_> i want to be able to pick various files off my old machine (1) and put them on my new machine (2)
[10:48] <BlueHeron> how do i get header files
[10:48] <roryy> BlueHeron: fwiw, I see sshfs in the repos, so you might not need to build it
[10:49] <DBO> annie_, so they arent all in one specific folder?
[10:49] <annie_> DBO: no
[10:49] <BlueHeron> roryy: yea but that version has a bug
[10:49] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: you read the docs for what you're building & they'll say what you need - then find the headers in synaptic/apt
[10:49] <roryy> BlueHeron: ah
[10:49] <DBO> ok, so sshfs might be the way to go afterall...  but your ssh deamon is all messed up
[10:49] <DBO> annie_, I know its a rather bad fix, but would you mind rebooting mach 1?
[10:49] <annie_> DBO:  how do I fix it ?
[10:49] <roryy> BlueHeron: try 'apt-get build-dep sshfs' to get all necessary build files (not guaranteed to work) i think you might need the deb-src repos for this to work at all.
[10:50] <BlueHeron> roryy: i did that :-(
[10:50] <xstation> Frogzoo: its done I will run the script agian and take a shower
[10:50] <DBO> annie_, I just want to get your machine back to its normal setup
[10:50] <annie_> DBO: I will lose this connection
[10:50] <roryy> BlueHeron: ah
[10:50] <DBO> oh
[10:50] <annie_> DBO: full reboot or a gui reboot ?
[10:50] <BlueHeron> roryy: i have all the source repo's also
[10:50] <DBO> full reboot, just make sure you come back
[10:50] <annie_> DBO:  ok .. back in a few .. thanks
[10:51] <Frogzoo> anybody running cedega? I have a copy protection issue that won't go away giving 'error 21'
[10:51] <roryy> BlueHeron: are you familiar with C at all?
[10:51] <BlueHeron> roryy: i'd REALLY like to get this to wor
[10:51] <DBO> Frogzoo, what game?
[10:51] <BlueHeron> roryy: not at all
[10:51] <roryy> BlueHeron: hrm. anyway, that very first line of the error is worrying
[10:51] <Frogzoo> DBO: WoW (*blush*)
[10:52] <roryy> BlueHeron: did you paste the *entire* error, or just the last bits?
[10:52] <DBO> Frogzoo, WoW actually runs fine in Wine...  might be easier than messing with cedega
[10:52] <BlueHeron> roryy: one moment i'll paste everything it has
[10:53] <Frogzoo> DBO: no performance issues? I thought cedega was faster?
[10:53] <BlueHeron> roryy: it all seems to have to do with glib 2.0
[10:53] <DBO> Frogzoo, runs fine on my machine, but then again, I have a rather beefy box...
[10:53] <BlueHeron> roryy: http://pastebin.com/635456
[10:54] <DBO> Frogzoo, there is a walkthrough in the forums
[10:54] <Killgore> hey what is the name of the package that contains all the stuff i need for make and configure
[10:54] <xstation> Frogzoo: do i have to install   sudo apt-get install qemu i think not just the script?
[10:54] <Frogzoo> DBO: I've tried 5.1.2, which gives error 21 despite setting legacy_va_layout - I'm d'ling a cedega .deb & if that doesn't work, next stop wine
[10:54] <DBO> killgore build-essentials
[10:55] <DBO> or is it build-essential...
[10:55] <BlueHeron> roryy: i have had problems with glib before..
[10:55] <BlueHeron> DBO: build essential
[10:55] <Frogzoo> DBO: build-essential
[10:55] <roryy> BlueHeron: looks like the compiler hasn't been told where to find the glib include directory
[10:55] <DBO> BlueDevil, thanks for the save =)
[10:55] <Killgore> thanks got it
[10:55] <BlueHeron> roryy: okay, can you help me with that
[10:55] <roryy> BlueHeron: does sshfs havea './configure' script ?
[10:55] <BlueHeron> roryy: yes
[10:55] <roryy> BlueHeron: err, a 'configure' script, that is
[10:56] <roryy> BlueHeron: and it ran without error ?
[10:56] <BlueHeron> yep
[10:56] <sun_> hi i tried adding nerim.net to get w32codecs but it times out, thats the only one on restricted-formats wiki can anyone point me to someplace which hosts w32codecs?
[10:57] <roryy> BlueHeron: you got the tarball here? http://fuse.sourceforge.net/ ?
[10:57] <BlueHeron> yep
[10:57] <annie> DBO: ok .. windows fix complete.. :-)
[10:58] <BlueHeron> roryy: no.. one sec
[10:58] <DBO> haha, annie, at least you have a good sense of humor about this
[10:58] <BlueHeron> roryy: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=121684&package_id=140425
[10:58] <annie> DBO: hee hee .. laugh or cry ..
[10:58] <DBO> ok annie, now do a "ps -ef | grep sshd"
[10:58] <sun_> hi i tried adding nerim.net to get w32codecs but it times out, thats the only one on restricted-formats wiki can anyone point me to someplace which hosts w32codecs?
[10:58] <annie> DBO: ok
[10:58] <BlueHeron> ubotu: tell sun_ about easysource
[10:58] <DBO> annie, any output?
[10:58] <BlueHeron> sun make sure you add the PLF one
[10:59] <roryy> BlueHeron: roughly the same thing
[10:59] <roryy> BlueHeron: fuse-2.5.2.tar.gz ?
[10:59] <BlueHeron> roryy: okay, i think my glib is messed up
[10:59] <annie> DBO: 2 lines ... root and annie
[10:59] <xstation> Frogzoo: do i have to install   sudo apt-get install qemu i think not just the script?
[10:59] <BlueHeron> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/fuse/sshfs-fuse-1.6.tar.gz?download
[10:59] <BlueHeron> that is it roryy
[10:59] <sun_> blueheron what is the plf one?
[10:59] <DBO> again?  have you been adding startup scripts?
[10:59] <BlueHeron> sun_: penguin liberation front
[10:59] <Frogzoo> xstation: no don't do that - the script will do everything
[11:00] <DBO> oh wait annie, is one of them "grep sshd"
[11:00] <roryy> BlueHeron: ok, looking...
[11:00] <xstation> Frogzoo ok thanks
[11:00] <annie> DBO: yes ..on the annie line ..
[11:01] <DBO> annie, good, now try to ssh from mach 2 to mach 1
[11:01] <annie> DBO: done .. no response
[11:02] <DBO> annie, on mach 1 make sure the ip hasnt been reset
[11:02] <DBO> (or do a ping test)
[11:02] <alkalineX> what is the latest version that has Xgl support?
[11:03] <annie> DBO: both machones ping ok
[11:03] <BlueHeron> dapper
[11:03] <Frogzoo> alkalineX: dapper - but it's beta only
[11:03] <DBO> annie, have you set up iptables or firestarter at all?
[11:03] <sun_> how do i install mplayer with all codecs?
[11:03] <alkalineX> thanks :)
[11:03] <annie> DBO: no to both
[11:03] <Frogzoo> !tell sun_ about restricted
[11:03] <annie> DBO: no other firewall installed either asaik
[11:04] <annie> DBO:afaik
[11:04] <Tobbe> Hi guys, I have a headless ubuntu install running. How do I set the system clock?
[11:04] <liable> date
[11:04] <Tobbe> thanks
[11:04] <cipi604> right click Tobbe
[11:05] <wasabi__> is there a tool to flash motherboards for linux? like winflash
[11:05] <DBO> annie, pastebin your /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:05] <Frogzoo> Tobbe: date & then hwclock -w to write to cmos
[11:05] <DBO> annie, to the pastebin website this time please =)
[11:05] <BlueHeron> roryy: any ideas
[11:05] <roryy> BlueHeron: standby; i'm downloading it now
[11:06] <Frogzoo> wasabi__: best stick with whatever the manufacturer provides really
[11:06] <annie> DBO: hee hee ..yes I will do that this time  ... as soon as I work out how to get there ;-)
[11:06] <DBO> !pastebin
[11:06] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[11:06] <DBO> that help?
[11:06] <wasabi__> epox uses winflash. i can't boot into windows without it randomly restarting
[11:06] <annie> DBO: Yes, thanks !
[11:07] <xstation> Frogzoo: yuor a star
[11:07] <DBO> xstation, Im terribly sorry I couldnt help you, glad Frogzoo fixed you up though
[11:07] <n271282> Hello. I'm having problems playing a DVD. (Picture format: 4:3, disc format: DVD-9, Black and white, Audio: mono) I can play other DVDs, why can't I play this one?
[11:08] <wasabi__> thanks anyway
[11:08] <Frogzoo> xstation: lol - it's Fabrice Bellard who's got the l337 skillz
[11:08] <xstation> DBO: thanks umm you sound almost english after the dude remarks yesterday but your a star
[11:09] <xstation> Frogzoo: yes I shuold mail him what a script
[11:09] <hrtp> ey, i disabled my desktop icons, and that was the first day i installed linux, now i don't know how to enable it
[11:09] <DBO> xstation, language skills come and go with sleep deprevation
[11:09] <xstation> DBO: starbuck coffe cupond snail mail?
[11:10] !lilo:*! Remember to spring forward if needed (daylight savings time hit today in various places) and fall back if needed (daylight savings time went off in various other places)
[11:10] <DBO> xstation, save it for frogzoo, the college installed a coffee machine just for me =)
[11:10] <DBO> annie, hows the pastebin coming along?
[11:11] <olin> I'm having a bit of trouble installing ubuntu without an install cd through GRUB. It keeps trying to mount the install cd even though I have put the files on the ISO in a folder and want to use those instead of an install cd
[11:11] <xstation> DBO: college and coffee go well but sleep and excercise is the best
[11:11] <annie> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11299
[11:11] <olin> I've done everything it said to do on here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows
[11:11] <annie> DBO: ok I think ..
[11:11] <DBO> beautiful annie, good work
[11:11] <sun_> to
[11:11] <xstation> Frogzoo; did you use the kqemu 0.2 gui
[11:12] <annie> DBO: Phew !! pleased I didn't get any more Cyber Smacks !!
[11:12] <chris_> DBO whats my network password?
[11:12] <chris_> :P
[11:12] <Eleaf> lol
[11:12] <chris_> I think it'll be helpful
[11:12] <chris_> haha
[11:12] <DBO> chris_, you have to set up samba users
[11:12] <Frogzoo> xstation: nope, no need really
[11:12] <DBO> google will hook you up with that answer quick
[11:12] <bina> how do I find out the names of the block devices on my computer? I've just put another HDD in and want to format it
[11:12] <xstation> Frogzoo; command line?
[11:13] <chris_> DBO i don't have to worry about it
[11:13] <Frogzoo> xstation: get used to doing everything through the CLI
[11:13] <chris_> but hey thanks anyways :)
[11:13] <chris_> would it take long?
[11:13] <DBO> chris_, no
[11:13] <DBO> I can look right now
[11:13] <DBO> I just forgot the command
[11:14] <xstation> Frogzoo: yep way to go thats why I se postfix no gui and want to learn how to use MUTT
[11:14] <xstation> use
[11:14] <DBO> annie, from mach 2 "nmap <IPOFMACHINE1>
[11:14] <nathanj> when i setup a disk to mount in diskmanager how come it doesnt show on my desktop?
[11:14] <chris_> Alrite How many users do i need?
[11:14] <roryy> BlueHeron: ok, now downloading libfuse-dev...
[11:14] <DBO> chris_, just one
[11:14] <BlueHeron> roryy: you on dialup ?
[11:14] <chris_> ok ok :)
[11:14] <chris_> lets try it :)
[11:15] <serkan_calis> i have a wireless lan i can connect it, but i can not configure dhcp client
[11:15] <roryy> BlueHeron: yip. *slow* dialup
[11:15] <BlueHeron> ouch
[11:15] <annie> DBO: nmap not installed on machine 2
[11:16] <mdke> I'm trying to install gnome-doc-utils from CVS and it is giving me an error about some missing m4 macros. Does anyone know where I can get these?
[11:16] <mdke> specifically:
[11:16] <mdke>   glib-gettext.m4 not found
[11:16] <mdke>   intltool.m4 not found
[11:16] <DBO> annie, ok, do it from mach 1, but use its internal IP and not the loopback
[11:16] <DBO> chris_, ok, hold
[11:17] <chris_> Sure :) Enjoy your cup of coffee
[11:17] <DBO> chris_, "smbpasswd -a chris"
[11:17] <chris_> sudo that?
[11:17] <xstation> Frogzoo: just on the side if I am to install debian sarge in this virtuel network not windos who would this line which viper gave me change? qemu -hda os.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -win2k-hack -m 256
[11:17] <DBO> not if you dont ahve to
[11:18] <chris_> ok did it got a list
[11:18] <DBO> a list of?
[11:18] <annie> DBO: says "host seems down" and tells me to try -PO
[11:18] <chris_> add -a adduser
[11:18] <roryy> BlueHeron: hrm. compiles perfectly here
[11:18] <chris_> etc etc
[11:18] <chris_> long list
[11:18] <chris_> :) of options
[11:18] <DBO> annie "nmap -P0 <IP"
[11:18] <BlueHeron> roryy: yea i think my glib is broken what do i do?
[11:18] <DBO> chris_, oh that list
[11:19] <DBO> chris_, sudo it
[11:19] <chris_> thank you DBO
[11:19] <chris_> :)
[11:19] <roryy> BlueHeron: what do your compile commands look like ? importantly, you need to see this somewhere: '-I/usr/include/glib-2.0'
[11:19] <DBO> ok chris, now type "smbpasswd"
[11:19] <DBO> no options
[11:19] <DBO> no sudo
[11:20] <BlueHeron> roryy: i was doing ./compile && make && sudo checkinstall
[11:20] <BlueHeron> roryy: can you give me the command i need to use?
[11:20] <annie> DBO:  i am getting no response
[11:20] <DBO> chris, it will ask you for a password, give it one (not your normal one) and that will be your network password
[11:20] <xstation> Frogzoo; sorry for the speling
[11:20] <DBO> annie, something is wrong with your network still...
[11:20] <annie> DBO: so it seems
[11:21] <chris_> whats my old smb?
[11:21] <roryy> BlueHeron: well, let's check that your './configure' worked
[11:21] <nathanj> does anyone know how to mount a drive ?
[11:21] <DBO> chris_, you shouldnt have one... try your normal password I guess
[11:21] <nathanj> so it comes up on my desktop etc
[11:21] <witless> hi.  how do i erase a cd-rw ?
[11:21] <BlueHeron> roryy: which one ./configure ?
[11:21] <annie> DBO: any suggestions as to how I can figure this out ?
[11:21] <witless> (or blank)
[11:21] <roryy> BlueHeron: what does 'grep ^SSHFS_CFLAGS Makefile' output ?
[11:21] <BlueHeron> roryy: one sec
[11:21] <chris_> machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Wrong Password.
[11:21] <chris_> Failed to change password for chris
[11:21] <liable> annie: doe snetstat -plunt on the server show sshd as up? what does auth.log say??
[11:22] <BlueHeron> SSHFS_CFLAGS = -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/local/include/fuse -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include
[11:22] <DBO> chris_, ok, "sudo smbpasswd chris"
[11:22] <nowhereman_> Hi guys, i know i'm a little ot, does anybody know some pdf viewer allowing me to add sticky notes or to draw over pages? thanx!
[11:22] <DBO> annie, uhhhhh... can you still ping between PC's?
[11:22] <chris_> ok
[11:22] <roryy> BlueHeron: i'd have thought it was /usr/include/... , not /usr/local/include
[11:22] <BlueHeron> roryy: is that the problem ?
[11:22] <roryy> BlueHeron: have you installed newer glib/fuse libraries ?
[11:22] <BlueHeron> roryy: if so how do i fix that bad mofo
[11:23] <BlueHeron> roryy: dunno :-(
[11:23] <DBO> chris, it should work now
[11:23] <liable> annie: err, netestat -plunt..
[11:23] <DBO> username is chris, password is what you just set
[11:23] <chris_> alrite will try
[11:23] <alfatau> hello, i'm trying to get the names of the upgradeable packages and upgrade priority for using them in a script. can you help me? i tried grep-dctrl but i'm unable to get info about only upgradeable packages.
[11:23] <annie> DBO:yes to ping between machines .. still trying to translate other statement
[11:24] <chris_> thanks DBO :)
[11:24] <xstation> DBO: this line with a cup of coffee in ne hand xstations asks if I do not want windows bur debian sarge then how would it alter to acommodate sarge   -qemu -hda os.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -win2k-hack -m 256 thats another cup to frogzoo
[11:24] <roryy> BlueHeron: what does 'pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0' output ?
[11:24] <DBO> what?
[11:24] <annie> liable: I am a major noobie and have no idea how to check your suggestion
[11:24] <BlueHeron> roryy: -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include
[11:24] <DBO> annie, he wants you to enter that in a terminal
[11:24] <liable> annie: on the server, type, sudo netstat -plunt
[11:24] <roryy> BlueHeron: hrm. there's your problem
[11:25] <xstation> DBO: maybe I sholud take up gaming
[11:25] <roryy> BlueHeron: is there anything in those directories ?
[11:25] <BlueHeron> roryy: yay
[11:25] <DBO> xstation, its a good passtime
[11:25] <BlueHeron> roryy: uhh one sec
[11:25] <sfar> does any body know if its possible to make special characters () work in xmms?
[11:25] <xstation> DBO; my brother is never away from interactice gaming a lot of RED
[11:25] <annie> DBO: Liable: did the plunt thingy .. should I paste the result to the pastebin ?
[11:26] <BlueHeron> roryy: /usr/local/include/glib-2.0 has files
[11:26] <DBO> annie, "sudo netstat -plunt | grep 22"
[11:26] <liable> annie: no, is sshd showing?
[11:26] <BlueHeron> roryy: /usr/local/lib has no glib stuff
[11:26] <DBO> liable, it wont say SSH, just that port 22 is listening
[11:26] <annie> DBO: yes .. on port 22
[11:26] <liable> DBO: yes it will
[11:26] <DBO> erm, with sudo it will, sorry, didnt notice you sudod it
[11:27] <roryy> BlueHeron: do you remember doing a 'make install' (or checkinstall) on a glib-2.0 build ?
[11:27] <BlueHeron> roryy: probably did
[11:27] <annie> liable: yes .. on port 22
[11:27] <BlueHeron> roryy: i always use checkinstall
[11:27] <liable> annie: ok, so paste the output of what happens when you try to connect to the server
[11:28] <DBO> heh... what output?
[11:28] <leftist> here is something funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxkr4wS7XqY
[11:28] <chris_> by the way DBO i am using amaroK for samba!
[11:28] <annie> liable: do you mean when I try to ssh to the other machine ?
[11:28] <roryy> BlueHeron: I'd suggest uninstalling those versions of libglib2.0-dev and libfuse-dev
[11:28] <liable> yes
[11:28] <roryy> BlueHeron: and install the ones from the repos, then try again
[11:28] <chris_> :) my music player
[11:28] <annie> liable : or do you mean the result of the plunt thingy
[11:28] <BlueHeron> roryy: okay
[11:28] <DBO> annie, he means when you try to connect
[11:28] <roryy> BlueHeron: if you used checkinstall, i think you can use dpkg to uninstall them (or perhaps even apt-get)
[11:28] <liable> annie: what does ssh say when you try and connect?
[11:29] <BlueHeron> roryy: glib-2.10.1 - Package created with checkinstall 1.5.3
[11:29] <BlueHeron> roryy: yea apt
[11:29] <arne_> wie kan me helpen ? hoe kan ik wine instaleren
[11:29] <roryy> BlueHeron: do you know if a newer version is needed?
[11:29] <annie> DBO : Liable: nothing happens .. it doesn't respond
[11:29] <roryy> !nl
[11:29] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[11:29] <BlueHeron> roryy: older ver
[11:29] <BlueHeron> that is the newest ver
[11:30] <liable> annie: what exactly is your command?
[11:30] <DBO> liable, thats why I thought it might be a firewall, but she says shes not running iptables, and her sshd_config looks good too...
[11:30] <arne_> does any body know how to instal wine
[11:30] <chris_> DBO do you have a myspace?
[11:30] <roryy> BlueHeron: yeah, i know -- i mean, do you know if the bugfix you were referring to earlier requires upgrading glib?
[11:30] <DBO> chris_, no
[11:30] <liable> DBO: generally you get a connection refused with a firewall or daemon problem, methinks it a command error maybe.
[11:30] <arne_> ?
[11:30] <chris_> ok well thanks
[11:31] <Frogzoo> arne_: 'sudo apt-get install wine' & then d/l install winetools & go through the setup is easiest approach
[11:31] <BlueHeron> roryy: that fixed me up
[11:31] <BlueHeron> roryy: thanks mate!
[11:31] <roryy> arne_: /join #ubuntu-nl  -- or please use english here
[11:31] <DBO> pebcak?
[11:31] <roryy> BlueHeron: no problem
[11:31] <annie> liable: 10 mins ago I had no response, had to "cntrlC" to get back to prompt. I just tried it then on machine 2  and it said " port 22 network is unreachable" but it still pings ok
[11:31] <xstation> DBO: this line with a cup of coffee in ne hand xstations asks if I do not want windows bur debian sarge then how would it alter to acommodate sarge   -qemu -hda os.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -win2k-hack -m 256
[11:31] <DBO> I suppose, I never did check her command... probably should have done that
[11:31] <roryy> arne_: oops, sorry
[11:31] <chris_> DBO is a genious! okwell have a good night -.- 6am
[11:31] <Frogzoo> arne_: but really depends on what you're planning to run?
[11:32] <annie> DBO: should I do the "sudo netstat -plunt | grep 22" ??
[11:32] <DBO> xstation, I cant understand your first sentence... the english stinks
[11:32] <DBO> annie, no
[11:32] <BlueHeron> roryy: does that mean checkinstall is bad to use? i heard it was better for ubuntu
[11:32] <DBO> we are passed that
[11:32] <Frogzoo> xstation: probly remove the -win2k-hack & away you go
[11:32] <liable> annie: is this all done within a lan or over the net?
[11:32] <DBO> annie, what command are you typing to do the ssh?
[11:33] <DBO> liable, crossover cable
[11:33] <liable> oh
[11:33] <annie> laible: sorry: the command is "ssh username@othermachine"
[11:33] <DBO> annie, post the exact command you are entering
[11:33] <annie> liable dbo: done over LAN cross over cable
[11:33] <BlueHeron> annie: if you are using sshfs it should look like this sshfs steven@192.168.1.9: /media/network -p 1101
[11:34] <Frogzoo> xstation: or consider using a different img file, so you can run both xp & sarge
[11:34] <DBO> BlueHeron, we arent quite there yet
[11:34] <liable> annie: have you tried user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx??
[11:34] <BlueHeron> DBO: oh okay sorry.
[11:34] <roryy> BlueHeron: no, checkinstall is fine -- in fact, it help you uninstall here
[11:34] <annie> DBO: Liable: ssh annie@192.168.1.6
[11:34] <ZupZupper> hello
[11:34] <roryy> BlueHeron: you never really needed to run checkinstall for glib or fuse, though
[11:34] <BlueHeron> roryy: oh okay
[11:34] <DBO> liable, looks ok to me?
[11:34] <xstation> DBO: yes its not my best english at all --I find at times I say things without spelling and full stops and such seem to run away from alas I am good and clear when speaking to clients of the human kind
[11:34] <liable> yeah
[11:35] <DBO> xstation, you need some sleep man
[11:35] <annie> Liable: DBO: Does Ubuntu have a default firewall that I am not aware of ?
[11:35] <nalioth> annie: it does not.
[11:35] <DBO> liable, perhaps the SSH client isnt listening on her wired interface
[11:35] <liable> annie: pastebin 'ifconfig -a' and 'route' output
[11:35] <DBO> annie, no
[11:35] <BlueHeron> roryy: uh oh now i'm getting fuse errors
[11:35] <bina> how easy is it to move /home/ to anoder hard disk? is it just a case of copying the files accross and then automatically mounting the device on boot?
[11:36] <xstation> DOB; can you believe i do not drink coffee
[11:36] <liable> DBO: point.
[11:36] <ZupZupper> bina: yes, however you should also make a link to the new location
[11:36] <BlueHeron> roryy: sshfs: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: version `FUSE_2.5' not found (required by sshfs) .... but i know i have it installed
[11:36] <Frogzoo> bina: yep, be careful to preserve permissions though - so use tar, not copy
[11:36] <ZupZupper> so /home is still accessible
[11:36] <xstation> Frogzoo: I have one 15gig image file for sarge what about win2000 server?
[11:36] <roryy> BlueHeron: what does 'dpkg -l libfuse2' say ?
[11:36] <arne_> how does I instal wine
[11:37] <arne_> ?
[11:37] <maskd> arne_: sudo apt-get wine
[11:37] <liable> annie: apt-get install wine
[11:37] <DBO> liable, she has a wireless interface as well, that I bet is her primary (so to speak), but i didnt see anything in her /etc/ssh/sshd_config to lead me to believe it wouldnt listen to eth0...
[11:37] <bina> ZupZupper: if I mount the device in /home/ would I still need to do that
[11:37] <maskd> oh dear, i forgot install =/
[11:37] <liable> DBO: its a routing problem methinks
[11:37] <ZupZupper> bina: no
[11:37] <BlueHeron> roryy: http://pastebin.com/635503
[11:37] <maskd> arne_: sudo apt-get install wine, then winecfg
[11:37] <DBO> annie, dont install wine, he maint to say arne
[11:37] <bina> Frogzoo: oh right, thanks.  good thinkg you told me, i would have just used cp :P
[11:37] <alfatau> hello, i'm trying to get the names of the upgradeable packages and upgrade priority for using them in a script. can you help me? i tried grep-dctrl but i'm unable to get info about only upgradeable packages.
[11:37] <Frogzoo> xstation: I have a working xp img that's only 3.5 gig - don't expect to install much though
[11:38] <DBO> liable, pings are getting through though
[11:38] <annie> DBO: ok .. but wine is installed on machine 1 , does that matter ?
[11:38] <DBO> haha, annie, I was just, ignore the whole wine thing
[11:38] <roryy> BlueHeron: hmm. looks like you need to upgrade fuse as well
[11:38] <annie> DBO: Liable: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11301
[11:38] <BlueHeron> roryy: when i try i get this
[11:39] <BlueHeron> http://pastebin.com/635506
[11:39] <Frogzoo> bina: symlinks as well - hard links will cause problems regardless, but that's the user's problem (or use cpio)
[11:39] <DBO> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11301 (no random d annie)
[11:39] <arne_> I need wine were can I download it
[11:39] <kode4u> when will version 6.04 release?
[11:39] <maskd> hey got a question; is there a way to tell the update manager to 'ignore' certain packages, i alien'd the rpm of gaim2.0beta3 from sourceforge, and now it wants to 'upgrade
[11:39] <maskd> 2.0 to 1.5
[11:39] <Frogzoo> arne_: wine is in multiverse
[11:39] <maskd> kode4u: dapper drake is set to be released on june 1st
[11:40] <DBO> maskd, yes, you have to switch to advanced mode
[11:40] <Frogzoo> maskd: yes it can be done
[11:40] <arne_> what
[11:40] <roryy> BlueHeron: where'd you get that deb from? I'd recommend building fuse from source (fuse.sf.net is where you can get it)
[11:40] <maskd> cheers dbo
[11:40] <annie> dbo: sorry, you lost me ..please clarify
[11:40] <xstation> Frogzoo: here is my silly plan you will roll all over  install sarge when I find the correct command line then follow this to put inside sarge  http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_xen3_debian
[11:40] <kode4u> maskd, I didn't find it on ubuntu home page.
[11:40] <BlueHeron> roryy: i did build it from source, checkinstall makes a .deb and then installs it
[11:40] <liable> annie: i need the output from 'route' command too.
[11:40] <BlueHeron> roryy: thats why it's easy to uninstall later
[11:41] <DBO> liable, her pings are getting through, if the routing was broke, that wouldnt work at all
[11:41] <roryy> BlueHeron: ah
[11:41] <liable> DBO: i want to see it.
[11:41] <Frogzoo> xstation: sounds like a plan
[11:41] <DBO> liable, ok
[11:41] <roryy> BlueHeron: i think dpkg has some 'force' options, though obviously they should be used with care
[11:41] <BlueHeron> roryy: and when i use make install it all goes without error but then i get the same error from sshfs asking for Fuse 2.5
[11:41] <annie> liable: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11302
[11:42] <xstation> Frogzoo its crazy but the command line to install sarge would be a big bonus for me stop me useing the gui
[11:42] <bina> Frogzoo: So I should tar -cpsf /media/hdb/ /home/* ?
[11:43] <Frogzoo> xstation: it's not in that link you mentioned?
[11:43] <roryy> BlueHeron: yeah, you'd need to point sshfs at the installed-from-source fuse
[11:43] <bina> then extract that to /media/hdb, which is where i have it mountet temporarily
[11:43] <don_toni> hi
[11:43] <maskd> ah bugger, the update manger for breezy is different than dapper
[11:43] <BlueHeron> roryy: how do i do that please.
[11:44] <don_toni> i need a little help for firefox 1.5
[11:44] <Frogzoo> bina: this would best be done running single user mode, with /home mounted ro
[11:44] <DBO> maskd, you need help locking the package?
[11:44] <bina> Frogzoo: oh right, how do i get down to single user mode?
[11:44] <misieq> !torrent
[11:44] <ubotu> misieq: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:44] <xstation> Frogzoo; no thats after I install sarge I was given that line i used you know you siad change it for sage but not sure
[11:44] <roryy> BlueHeron: Um. first uninstall your sshfs and ubuntu's libfuse2
[11:44] <DBO> maskd just click on the package in advanced mode, go to package at the top of the window, and select "lock version"
[11:45] <BlueHeron> roryy: okay.
[11:45] <roryy> BlueHeron: and libfuse-dev
[11:45] <annie> laible: did you get it ? does it make any sense ?
[11:45] <maskd> DBO: how do you get to advanced mode though
[11:45] <Frogzoo> bina: reboot & choose recovery mode (which is single user)
[11:45] <DBO> File -> advanced
[11:45] <roryy> BlueHeron: use checkinstall to install a built-from-source libfuse2 *and* libfuse-dev package.  This should put stuff in /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/include
[11:46] <liable> annie: thanks. does ping -I eth0 192.168.1.6 work??
[11:46] <xstation> Frogzoo:qemu -hda os.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -sarge -m 256?
[11:46] <maskd> DBO: I found it in Synaptic, thanks for your help
[11:46] <roryy> BlueHeron: i'm not sure if checkinstall will distinguish between normal and -dev packages -- probably not
[11:46] <Frogzoo> xstation: try it & see if it works :)
[11:46] <annie> liable: yes it does
[11:46] <misieq> are there any bittorrent clients worth using that work in console mode or do _not_ use java?
[11:47] <xstation> Frogzoo; I think I need to find out what the name is of the sarge DVD
[11:47] <BlueHeron> roryy: same error about broken pipe .......................
[11:47] <roryy> BlueHeron: yeah, you're going to need to force the install
[11:47] <BlueHeron> roryy: okay how
[11:47] <roryy> BlueHeron: I'm not sure of the wisdom of this
[11:47] <Frogzoo> xstation: no, you just need to boot the cd  - remove the -sarge flag (qemu -h shows valid options)
[11:47] <misieq> because on p2 350 with 256 mb ram azureus takes about 5 minutes to load and refuses to download anything
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> misieq: the default client that comes with bittorrent. Since bittorrent is python, you can run it from the cli :)
[11:48] <DBO> liable, we must be overlooking something bloody simple...
[11:48] <roryy> BlueHeron: i think '--force-overwrite' is the magic incantation
[11:48] <xstation> Frogzoo; sorry so the line would be what please
[11:48] <bina> Frogzoo: oh right, thanks
[11:48] <ZupZupper> misieq: http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/vivek/blogger/2005/03/linux-command-line-bittorrent-client.php
[11:48] <misieq> fyrestrtr, right, and what's the package name? 'bittorrent'?
[11:48] <annie> liable: DBO: That makes three of us
[11:48] <liable> DBO: indeed, network related though
[11:48] <BlueHeron> roryy: worked
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> misieq: indeed :)
[11:48] <roryy> BlueHeron: and hopefully didn't break anything
[11:48] <stockholm> are there backports for newer wireless drivers to breezy available somewhere?
[11:48] <BlueHeron> roryy: i don't have the -dev source.. only the normal fuse 2.5.2
[11:48] <stockholm> preferably packaged?
[11:49] <roryy> BlueHeron: kernel upgrades may fail now
[11:49] <DBO> liable, yeah, its got to be somewhere between the deamon and the nic...
[11:49] <BlueHeron> roryy: uhh.. i surely hope not man
[11:49] <roryy> BlueHeron: i'm guessing checkinstall will put everything in the same dev
[11:49] <liable> annie: the server box is only connected to the other box? no other connection at all?
[11:49] <BlueHeron> roryy: can i install sshfs now then?
[11:49] <DBO> liable, server box also has a wlan0
[11:49] <BlueHeron> roryy: and if they do fail later how do i fix it
[11:49] <jc-denton> what's the status of beagle in dapper?
[11:49] <roryy> BlueHeron: are there fuse* files in /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/include ?
[11:50] <liable> huh?
[11:50] <Jemt> Greetings. Does anyone know how to setup multiple monitors with an ATI Video Card? I can only find HowTos for nVidia cards. I would like each monitor to represent two different desktops so I can have source code on my external TFT monitor and previews on my "internale" laptop monitor
[11:50] <DBO> liable, wireless, it has a wireless interface on it as well, thats how she is online
[11:50] <BlueHeron> roryy: i think so
[11:50] <liable> annie: why are you doing this over a crossover when both boxes are on the lan?
[11:50] <annie> liable: no .. machine 1 (server) is connected to the net on ath0 (wireless) ... this is what I am using to chat to you on
[11:50] <Jemt> I would like each monitor to represent ONE desktop each :)
[11:50] <roryy> BlueHeron: i'd guess a similar sort of 'force-overwrite' option, though I'm not sure; alternatively, uninstall libfuse before kernel upgrades
[11:50] <misieq> fyrestrtr, and can i change downloading/uploading speed when it's running? i assume it is able to resume downloads after i turn my pc off and on?
[11:50] <liable> annie: and the client?
[11:50] <xstation> Frogzoo; qemu -hda os.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d  -m 256?
[11:50] <roryy> BlueHeron: and, if you *do* do a kernel upgrade, you'll need to reinstall fuse to get the updated fuse.ko file
[11:51] <roryy> BlueHeron: or, at least, so i suspect
[11:51] <chris_> could you share my windows partion in samba?
[11:51] <misieq> fyrestrtr, can it run as daemon?
[11:51] <Frogzoo> xstation: try it & see
[11:51] <DBO> chris_, yes
[11:51] <BlueHeron> roryy: stiill wants /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: omfg this is so annoying
[11:51] <annie> liable: ok .. Machine 1, on the internet and a wireless network, Machine 2, my new machine I want to transfer files onto, connected to machine 1 via crossover until i get my files on it,
[11:51] <chris_> i am in ubuntu now with grub bootloader
[11:51] <roryy> BlueHeron: you need to rebuild sshfs
[11:51] <xstation> Frogzoo; it does not make sence
[11:51] <BlueHeron> roryy: what the hell ami supposed to do
[11:51] <BlueHeron> roryy: i just did
[11:51] <chris_> DBO your amazing!
[11:51] <roryy> BlueHeron: wipe the old build tree, rebuild
[11:52] <BlueHeron> roryy: how do i whipe the tree
[11:52] <chris_> how would i do it? will it take long?
[11:52] <DBO> chris_, have you mounted the windows drive?
[11:52] <roryy> BlueHeron: erase the directory -- something like 'rm -rf' (be careful!)
[11:52] <fyrestrtr> misieq: all execellent questions to find out the answers to in the man page. Resuming is a feature of the bt protocol, not bt clients.
[11:52] <Frogzoo> xstation: try google maybe?
[11:52] <annie> liable : I think the client is machine 2 .. connected via crossover only
[11:52] <chris_> never have mounted it before
[11:52] <liable> annie: ok, so the server can ping the client? and the client can ping the server?
[11:52] <BlueHeron> roryy: which dir, the source? i re-downloaded it
[11:52] <chris_> I'm so excited!!
[11:52] <roryy> BlueHeron: no, where you ran './configure' and 'make'
[11:52] <roryy> BlueHeron: err, that is, probably yes
[11:52] <BlueHeron> roryy: i ran them in the source dir ..
[11:53] <xstation> Frogzoo: goole umm thought you use the command line when you did it?
[11:53] <olin> Hi I was wondering, how do I partition the drive so that I can install ubuntu and keep my original windows installation?
[11:53] <BlueHeron> roryy: i just reinstalled it fresh same error bro
[11:53] <roryy> hmm
[11:53] <DBO> chris_, hold on, let me get straight hat we want to do here chris_, you have a windows partition on your ubuntu box you want to share across the network?
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> olin: use partition magic.
[11:53] <annie> liable: ping, yes .. both ways
[11:53] <chris_> yes correct
[11:53] <olin> are there any free programs?
[11:53] <DBO> chris, is the drive formatted NTFS or FAT?
[11:53] <kev1n> has anyone installed a Dvico TV card recently?
[11:54] <BlueHeron> roryy: can you just send me the libfuse.so.2 ?
[11:54] <Frogzoo> xstation: -> www.google.com & enter 'install qemu sarge'
[11:54] <DBO> liable, real dome buster huh?
[11:54] <roryy> BlueHeron: are there any /usr/lib/libfuse* files?
[11:54] <misieq> fyrestrtr, one last question: is it safe to install bittorrent as described here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/vivek/blogger/2005/03/linux-command-line-bittorrent-client.php ? because ubuntu's bittorrent seems to be quite old...
[11:54] <roryy> BlueHeron: that won't really help -- it needs to find the file in /usr/local/lib
[11:54] <BlueHeron> roryy: i can paste it their
[11:54] <DBO> chris_, go to system -> aministration -> disks
[11:54] <roryy> BlueHeron: during the build process, the compile needs to use the stuff in /usr/local for fuse
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> misieq: you can have many version of the bittorrent client running. I always use the latest "official" client from bittorent itself.  It tends to have all the new features in it.
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> misieq: obviously, they can't all be listening on the same port.
[11:55] <DBO> chris_, in there you will see a list of your hard drives, how many hard drives do you have?
[11:55] <BlueHeron> roryy: okay what i'm trying to say is sshfs installs fine, but when i run it i get the error, not when i compile it
[11:55] <BlueHeron> roryy: thats the problem
[11:55] <roryy> BlueHeron: so, if you run 'grep ^SSHFS_CFLAGS Makefile' you should see a reference to /usr/local/include/fuse
[11:55] <roryy> BlueHeron: oh
[11:55] <chris_> i have 2
[11:55] <annie> DBO: Liable: and I thought Linux Networking worked !! Pfft !
[11:55] <BlueHeron> roryy: yea, how do i fix it
[11:55] <chris_> DBO: 2
[11:56] <misieq> fyrestrtr, using .deb or you compile it?
[11:56] <fyrestrtr> I compiled it.
[11:56] <DBO> annie, =( Im really sorry...
[11:56] <DBO> chris_, ok, you see the partition tab?  click on that
[11:56] <chris_> yes
[11:56] <annie> DBO: It is not YOUR fault .. I really appreciate your help .. but my brain hurts !!
[11:56] <DBO> chris_, now click through the partitions till you find the one whose file system is NTFS
[11:56] <roryy> BlueHeron: run 'sudo ldconfig /usr/local/lib'
[11:56] <DBO> annie, yours and mine both, I think the big issue here is with the crossover cable
[11:57] <BlueHeron> roryy: got it nice
[11:57] <chris_> Ok Found the one with NTFS
[11:57] <roryy> BlueHeron: i'd recommend putting creating a file /etc/ld.so.conf, with the single line '/usr/local/lib' -- this will prevent ldconfig from ignoring /usr/local/lib when it is run in the future
[11:57] <DBO> ok, what is its device? (e.g. /dev/hda1)
[11:57] <BlueHeron> roryy: yea i did that earlier, i forgot to tell you i read it on google
[11:57] <Frogzoo> DBO: annie if the crossover cable is good - you'll get a link light on the nics (if they have one)
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> annie: can you summarize your problem?
[11:57] <xstation> Frogzoo: something like http://www.overselfresearch.com/kb/qemu.html
[11:57] <roryy> BlueHeron: cool. so it's working now?
[11:57] <DBO> Frogzoo, we can even ping
[11:57] <sun_> hi when i play wmv sometimes the picture is "diagonally distorted."  i can see the picture but it is "stretched" diagonally.  i foudn w32codecs etc from mplayer.hu website an instsalled. how do i correct this "diagonal" eeffect?
[11:57] <BlueHeron> roryy: yep
[11:57] <misieq> fyrestrtr, thanks, you were most helpful
[11:58] <DBO> chris_, what is the device?
[11:58] <annie> DBO: ok ... so is there a way I can do this wothout using a crossover cable ?
[11:58] <Frogzoo> xstation: man, I think you need some sleep dude
[11:58] <chris_> hold on ill take snap shot
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> misieq: there are many other command line bt clients (not just the 'official' one). Just google for a bit.
[11:58] <Jemt> Does anyone know how to get the picture back on a laptop when an external monitor is connected? The monitors display has been turned off while the external is on. Pressing fn+F7 dosn't work. Is there a script I can run from /etc/acpi ??
[11:58] <annie> FrogZoo ... NIC lights on both .. and the ping works too
[11:58] <DBO> annie, yes, hook both boxes up to your network
[11:58] <chris_> image shack
[11:58] <xstation> Frogzoo: that bad  hy
[11:58] <BlueHeron> roryy: my problem was that i had usr/local/lib and not /usr/local/lib oh stupid me, thanks for the tonnnns of help man
[11:58] <DBO> chris_, ok, that will work
[11:58] <BlueHeron> roryy: all that for a / haha
[11:58] <roryy> BlueHeron: no problem
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> Jemt: is it fn+f7 for your monitor?
[11:59] <Jemt> fyrestrt1: Yes, it's fn+F7 for my laptop
[11:59] <annie> DBO: Can't .. network is wireless and machine 2 has no wireless card
[11:59] <sun_> hi when i play wmv sometimes the picture is "diagonally distorted."  i can see the picture but it is "stretched" diagonally.  i foudn w32codecs etc from mplayer.hu website an instsalled. how do i correct this "diagonal" eeffect?
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> Jemt: sorry, I meant is it fn+f7 or your laptop.
[11:59] <Jemt> fyrestrt1: (IBM laptop :)
[11:59] <DBO> annie, there are no hardwire ports at the router?
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> ah yah -- just like mine :D
[11:59] <liable> annie: ok, so ping from client to server works. ssh client to server hangs or gets network unreachable or what?
[11:59] <Jemt> fyrestrt1: Hehe :)
[11:59] <Jemt> fyrestrt1: The funny thing is - when I switch to a console, there is no problems - picture on both monitors
[12:00] <BlueHeron> roryy: LOL the bug i was trying to fix by using this version instead of showing 0 free space bytes now it shows like 7000gigs .....
[12:00] <BlueHeron> roryy: lol that's horrible
[12:00] <xstation> bye all
[12:00] <Jemt> fyrestrt1: So I thought it was a resolution problem and switched back to 1024x768 which both monitors support - no good
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> Jemt: you have the xinerama extention working for X?
[12:00] <annie> liable: gets unreachable or just hangs
[12:00] <chris_> DBO http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/434/screenshot1dj.png
[12:00] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: cool - d/l the whole net..
[12:00] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: gonna :-0
[12:00] <roryy> BlueHeron: bizarre
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> Jemt: xinerama = dual screen for X
[12:01] <liable> annie: but you can definately ping from client to server?
[12:01] <BlueHeron> roryy: but i can transfer files now, i don't care what it says about freespace so the problem is fixed ;-)
[12:01] <BlueHeron> roryy: thank you sir
[12:01] <annie> DBO: Yes, the router has hardwire ports, but it is too far away from these machines
[12:01] <DBO> chris_, ok, we need to make an entry in your /etc/fstab file
[12:01] <annie> Liable: I will check again ...
[12:01] <Jemt> fyrestrt1: Don't thing so
[12:01] <DBO> chris_, but first, "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows"
[12:01] <Jemt> fyrestrt1: How do I enable it?
[12:02] <annie> liable : Yes .. ping works fine
[12:02] <Jemt> fyrestrt1: I just add it as an 'Option' within xorg.conf, right?
[12:02] <chris_> "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows"
[12:02] <chris_> chris@ubuntu:~$ "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows"
[12:02] <chris_> bash: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows: No such file or directory
[12:02] <chris_> chris@ubuntu:~$
[12:02] <DBO> you have no mnt directory?
[12:02] <DBO> weird...
[12:03] <DBO> chris_, "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/windows"
[12:03] <sKaBoy> chris_: without the ""
[12:03] <BlueHeron> roryy: i emailed the author about the bug
[12:03] <chris_> ok
[12:03] <DBO> sKaBoy, ha, good catch, didnt notice
[12:04] <chris_> ohh yah!
[12:04] <chris_> i didnt see that soorry
[12:04] <chris_> sudo mkdir -p /mnt/windows :P
[12:04] <chris_> ill do that now
[12:04] <Jemt> fyrestrt1: ?
[12:05] <BlueHeron> !mysql
[12:05] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:05] <DBO> chris_, now we want to edit the fstab "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[12:05] <DBO> chris_, you need to add this line to it
[12:05] <DBO> /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows  ntfs    ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[12:06] <DBO> chris_, then save and quit gedit
[12:07] <chris_> ok
[12:07] <DBO> chris_, ok now do a "mount -a"
[12:07] <chris_> sudo that :P
[12:07] <DBO> uhhh probably
[12:07] <liable> annie: ok, take a look in /var/log/auth.log on the server, do you see anything
[12:08] <DBO> ok, now you should see your drives on your desktop
[12:08] <chris_> see nothing ...
[12:08] <chris_> hold on
[12:08] <DBO> chris_, did mount -a give an error?
[12:09] <stockholm> i just had a kernel crash with the lastest kernel for breezy (security upgraded)
[12:09] <annie> liable: yes i can see pages of stuff
[12:10] <stockholm> is that a common problem?
[12:10] <chris_> no error wont show up
[12:10] <DBO> chris_, it should also now be showing under places
[12:10] <liable> annie: anything about ssh?
[12:10] <DBO> chris_, "ls /mnt/windows"
[12:10] <chris_> nothing...
[12:10] <DBO> does it show your windows drive?
[12:10] <root_> ):
[12:10] <annie> liable: yes, a few
[12:11] <chris_> nothing
[12:11] <liable> annie: from the client? what does it say?
[12:11] <DBO> chris_, "cat /etc/fstab"
[12:11] <DBO> is the entry I told you to put in there still there?
[12:12] <chris_> yes
[12:12] <chris_> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[12:12] <chris_> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[12:12] <chris_> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:12] <chris_> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:12] <chris_> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,unhide,noauto     0       0
[12:12] <chris_> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[12:12] <DBO> chris_, dont paste in here please
[12:12] <chris_> ok sorry
[12:12] <DBO> chris_, I dont see it
[12:12] <chris_> me either, its hidding
[12:12] <DBO> ...no its not, you didnt save the file =P
[12:13] <DBO> "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[12:13] <wickedpuppy> lol
[12:13] <healot> !ati
[12:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:13] <chenjf> Does anybody know where can I get a bmp-cueinfo package for Dapper?
[12:13] <chris_> ok
[12:13] <DBO> /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows  ntfs    ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[12:13] <DBO> add that line
[12:13] <annie> liable: from the client : sshd did not receive identification string from 192.168.0.9 (it seems to be using the OLD ip address)
[12:13] <DBO> chris_, put it in right after hda5's listing
[12:13] <BlueHeron> how do i create a mysql databse on mysql 4.1 ?
[12:14] <BlueHeron> also what is the default username/password
[12:14] <wickedpuppy> BlueHeron, ask in #mysql ?
[12:14] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: no one alive
[12:14] <annie> liable: from the server to the client: sshd[8345] : Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22
[12:14] <wickedpuppy> btw its create database <database-name>;
[12:14] <DBO> chris_, did you put it in there?
[12:14] <chris_> how
[12:14] <wickedpuppy> BlueHeron, to login to mysql ... type "mysql -u root"
[12:15] <chris_> like before before /dev/hb
[12:15] <wickedpuppy> default shouldn't have a pass
[12:15] <annie> DBO: Liable: Have eliminated the crossover and placed a switch between machine 1 and 2 .. both still ping, ssh fails
[12:15] <chris_> ok yah
[12:15] <chris_> its in there saved
[12:15] <liable> annie: um, whats the clients ip?
[12:15] <chris_> :)
[12:15] <DBO> chris_, yes, just make sure its on its own line
[12:15] <DigitalLF> how do i use the app "patch"?
[12:15] <DBO> good
[12:15] <DBO> now "sudo mount -a"
[12:16] <annie> liable: client ip = 192.168.1.6
[12:16] <chris_> nothing...
[12:16] <DBO> annie, I wonder what mechinism is causing it to remember the old IP
[12:16] <DBO> chris_, "cat /etc/fstab"
[12:16] <root__> how to change the mac address in ubuntu?
[12:16] <DBO> is the new entry in there?
[12:16] <DigitalLF> i got the source and im in /usr/src/ and the file that needs the patching is in /usr/src/somename/ and the patch is in /usr/src/
[12:16] <DBO> root__, you would have to spoof it
[12:17] <annie> DBO: i could be in the wrong log .. there are a few auth.log files .. each has a number following the auth.jog
[12:17] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: when i try the grantall cmd i get a --> and nothing happens
[12:17] <DBO> annie, oh
[12:17] <chris_> i see windows!
[12:17] <liable> annie: you want the one without a number
[12:17] <chris_> in the termnial
[12:17] <liable> annie: that is the latest
[12:17] <annie> DBO ..yes, that's the one I read
[12:18] <deefzi> what does 'qt' mean?
[12:18] <DBO> chris, "ls /mnt/windows"
[12:18] <chenjf> deefzi,'qt' is a GUI library
[12:18] <wickedpuppy> BlueHeron, type "create database  test;" and see what you get
[12:18] <chris_> yes!!
[12:18] <chris_> :)
[12:18] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: i can create a DB the grant all cmd doesn't work
[12:18] <DBO> chris_, good, now to make the share
[12:19] <chris_> yes
[12:19] <chris_> :)
[12:19] <geo> how to turn off WEP? i only see options for hex and ascii
[12:19] <DBO> what is the full path of what you want to share chris_/
[12:19] <annie> Liable: DBO : have found another line in the server auth.log ... "sshd[8716] : fatal: Timeout before authentication for 192.168.1.6"
[12:19] <chris_> need my script for appache?
[12:19] <root__> thanks ,what the excatly measures should be taken?
[12:19] <chris_> or samba
[12:19] <chris_> i want to share my windows and linux
[12:19] <DBO> chris_, no, I will just give you stuff to tak onto the end of it
[12:19] <chris_> partions
[12:19] <DBO> chris_, the WHOLE thing?
[12:19] <wickedpuppy> BlueHeron, what did you type for grant all command ?
[12:20] <chenjf> geo:I think you can put anything into the WEP key field
[12:20] <chris_> the whole windows
[12:20] <chris_> :)
[12:20] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: in the mysql terminal
[12:20] <DBO> chris, ok
[12:20] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: mysql> create database music2;
[12:20] <BlueHeron> Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec)
[12:20] <DBO> chris_, give me 2 mins to write the stuffers
[12:20] <chris_> you did good job with my linux partiton :P
[12:20] <chenjf> If your WLan doesn't need WEP
[12:20] <chris_> ok thanks DBO
[12:20] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: GRANT ALL ON music2.* TO user@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "password" <---- is that right ?
[12:20] <liable> annie: change them all to the same subnet, 192.168.1.x
[12:21] <chenjf> It jsut need a WEP key to init the card
[12:21] <annie> liable: they are already the same
[12:22] <annie> liable: machine one and machine 2 are the same that is, apart from ath0 which I need to stay online
[12:22] <DBO> chris_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11304
[12:22] <DBO> chris_, add that to the end of your /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[12:22] <chris_> well thanks DBO
[12:22] <DBO> (can you do that or do you need terminal commands?)
[12:23] <wickedpuppy> BlueHeron, you have that database ?
[12:23] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: music2 ? yes
[12:23] <chris_> got the command to edit the samba?
[12:23] <DBO> chris_, "sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[12:24] <Xnos> i someone have succesfully indtalled the ipw3945 drivers ...
[12:24] <chris_> 1 more thing
[12:24] <chris_> not writeable?
[12:24] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: it aint working man
[12:24] <wickedpuppy> BlueHeron, you have that user as well ?
[12:24] <annie> liable: please clarify .. you said change them to the same SUBNET .. 192.168.1.x  .. the subnet is currently 255.255.255.0 on both
[12:24] <liable> annie: when you pasted, ath0 was 192.168.0.7, and eth0 was 192.168.1.9, put eth0 on 192.168.0.10 and the client 192.168.0.11
[12:24] <wickedpuppy> the command is right
[12:25] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: yes
[12:25] <DBO> chris_, did you use the sudo?
[12:25] <wickedpuppy> you have user called user ?
[12:25] <DBO> oh, you mean the share
[12:25] <chris_> yes
[12:25] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: yes
[12:25] <DBO> chris_, yeah, NTFS is not writable (safely) from linux, so I mounted your drive read only
[12:25] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: when i put in the command all i get is a -->
[12:25] <chris_> ok thanks DBO
[12:26] <wickedpuppy> no error message ?
[12:26] <chris_> now theres 1 more thing after i save right?
[12:26] <DBO> chris_, do a "/etc/init.d/samba restart"
[12:26] <chris_> thanks
[12:26] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: nope
[12:26] <wickedpuppy> BlueHeron, and you think the command didn't work because ?
[12:26] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: no message or anything
[12:27] <chris_> fail
[12:27] <chris_> :/
[12:27] <DBO> chris_, what failed?
[12:27] <BlueHeron> wickedpuppy: and i can't use the DB in amarok it makes amarok crash
[12:27] <DBO> oh yeah
[12:27] <DBO> chris_, do a "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[12:27] <wickedpuppy> DB in amarok ?
[12:28] <DBO> Database
[12:28] <chris_> ok
[12:28] <wickedpuppy> i don't know amarok can use db ... lol ... amazing
[12:28] <chris_> :) worked no fails on that command
[12:28] <DBO> chris_, good, now go check if the share worked
[12:28] <chris_> your a genious! dbo!!
[12:29] <DBO> hey Frogzoo, whats the billing policy here?  Is it "whatever I feel like?"
[12:29] <DBO> =P
[12:29] <bina> Whenever I try to mount /dev/hdb1 (even when booting I get the error) mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /misc busy.  /dev/hdb1 according to mount is not already mounted, but I dont know what could be using /misc.  Is there a way to find out?
[12:29] <chris_> :)
[12:29] <chris_> how to thank you
[12:29] <Frogzoo> DBO: yep - & if they won't pay - you write it off your tax :)
[12:29] <DBO> enjoy it, thats thanks enough =)
[12:29] <DBO> Frogzoo, great idea
[12:29] <MenZa> chris_: I think I ought to go to bed. I read that as "* chris_ passes another coffee" :\
[12:30] <annie> liable: ok .. changed them to 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11 ... now they do not ping ... checked in ifconfig and all seems ok on new IP's
[12:30] <DBO> MenZa, yeah, you do need bed
[12:30] <chris_> :\ DBO paypal :)
[12:30] <MenZa> DBO: It's 12:30am :\
[12:30] <DBO> chris_, I was kidding man
[12:30] <DBO> MenZa, really, its 6:30 AM here
[12:31] <chris_> same here!!
[12:31] <chris_> :P
[12:31] <MenZa> Oh god
[12:31] <MenZa> Notice how many people are in this chan
[12:31] <chris_> ohh man DBO like me a owl!
[12:31] <liable> annie: neitherway?
[12:31] <MenZa> six-hundred-and-sixty-six. Well, was.
[12:31] <DBO> liable, her other network runs on that subnet, the crossover wont work like that
[12:31] <annie> DBO: 6:30am ?? OMG .. are u in the states or something ?
[12:31] <DBO> annie, yes
[12:31] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: I've had a similiar problem with the db crapping out in amarok - think it's caused by bad tags or unplayable files, deleted a some suspect files & it came good
[12:31] <chris_> same time here!
[12:31] <chris_> same time zone east side!
[12:31] <chris_> lol
[12:32] <annie> Liable: nope .. neither way .. both say "destination host unreachable"
[12:32] <chris_> tired..
[12:32] <chris_> but excited!!
[12:32] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: it needs to be compiled in, that's what my problem was
[12:32] <chris_> thanks EBO!!
[12:32] <BlueHeron> Frogzoo: and the cmd was missing a ;
[12:32] <chris_> DBO*
[12:32] <chris_> :P
[12:32] <DBO> BlueHeron, had the same problem, ran all the tags through EasyTAG (took forever), fixed the issue
[12:32] <annie> DBO: cool .. good morning USA .. hope your Sunday is as nice as ours has been
[12:32] <DBO> annie, meh, storms are always nice
[12:33] <jemt> Greetings (again). I am trying to get dual monitors work on Ubuntu. But after modifying xorg.conf to have it work with Xinerama, GDM will no longer start. The error messages stats there is an error in xorg.conf (it could not parse the file). Can anyone see whats wrong? http://powerzone.dk/xorg.conf.txt
[12:33] <Frogzoo> jemt: which vid card?
[12:34] <embrik> I can't instal my printer, HP Laserjet 1020. Is there something I should be aware of. Do I have to have root priviligies to install and print? Where do I find the log wich gives me the error message?
[12:34] <jemt> Frogzoo: ATI Mobility M6
[12:34] <Frogzoo> embrik: r u using the right cups driver?
[12:34] <annie> Liable: just to clarify, we have eliminated the crossover cable and put in a switch between machine 1 and 2
[12:34] <jemt> Frogzoo: Btw - I havn't installed any additional packages - don't know if I need to
[12:34] <Frogzoo> jemt: tried fireglcontrolpanel?
[12:34] <embrik> I'm using the HP Laserjet 1015 and have tried 1022. But nothing happens..
[12:35] <jemt> Frogzoo: Nope. Graphical solution ?
[12:35] <DBO> annie, all that does is verify that the crossover cable wasnt the issue =P
[12:35] <DBO> though, not a bad idea...
[12:35] <annie> DBO .. yeah .. but I knew that  ;-)
[12:35] <DBO> smart girl
[12:35] <gnomefreak> embrik: does it list your printer in the cups list?
[12:36] <Frogzoo> jemt: give install 'fglrx-control' a spin
[12:36] <annie> DBO: Wish I knew what the problem is ... then I could go cook dinner !
[12:36] <jemt> Frogzoo: Will do :)
[12:36] <DBO> dinner!  thats what I forgot
[12:36] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:36] <annie> DBO .. bit late for that now .. just skip to breakkie
[12:37] <embrik> gnoefreak: The cups list is the list apearing when you choose Add Printer. If that's right I can only find laserjet 1015 and 1022. I have 1020.
[12:37] <DBO> annie, so how much trouble would it be to get that box hardwired to the router?
[12:37] <bina> is there any way you can find out what is using a certain Dir, when trying to mount /dev/hdb1 I keep getting an eror saying that its already mounted (which it isnt according to mtab) or the mount point is busy
[12:37] <aaA^> hi everyone, when i open synaptic package manager i get the following warning... and so the programs im looking for in the list arent there... could anyone help me out?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11305
[12:37] <rob_p> annie:  There was no need to put them on the same subnet as your wireless interface.  In fact, that  creates routing issues for the machine with the 2 interfaces unless you specify a custom routing table.  That's probably why they aren't pinging each other anymore.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> embrik: thats normally not a good sign. neither of those work with yours?
[12:38] <annie> DBO: Heaps .. they will be too far away from the office
[12:38] <rob_p> annie:  Once you had them pinging each other, you were 90% there.  The rest was probably just an ssh problem.  I'd go back to your previous network configuration and proceed from there.
[12:38] <embrik> gnomefreak: Doesn't seem like they work. Nothing happens..
[12:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell embrik about print
[12:39] <DBO> annie, would you be willing to just set up Samba?
[12:39] <annie> rob_p .. correct .. ok .. what does Liable and DBO have to say about your suggestion?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> embrik: try that link they might say you can add drivers for it
[12:39] <annie> DBO : I think so, but don't I have to specify which file I want to share in Samba ?
[12:39] <bimberi> aaA^: try hitting the Reload button
[12:39] <DBO> I mean, we would pretty much end up sharing your whole drive since you want to pick a choose stuff, but we could do it
[12:39] <GTroy> how close is flight 6 to 6.06?
[12:39] <aaA^> which reload button?
[12:40] <embrik> been to linuxprinting.org, my printer is on their list, but I'll try the other link you gave me.Thanks
[12:40] <aaA^> oh that one
[12:40] <DBO> annie, no we can share pretty much anything, its just not a very good idea to share an entire drive
[12:40] <GTroy> and I'm wondering if I should wait untill 06 comes
[12:40] <bimberi> aaA^: yes, that one :)
[12:40] <liable> annie: ok, on the server, can you telnet 127.0.0.1 22 ??
[12:40] <aaA^> bimberi: it says could not download repository indexes
[12:40] <aaA^> my bad
[12:40] <jablotronk> Hi guys, is there anyone who using Quodlibet in ubuntu 5.04 ? i cant start it, some problem with old gstreamer ?
[12:40] <annie> DBO: All I want to do is pull the files across from the old machine to the new machine .. it's only a temporary share
[12:41] <DBO> annie, I know, but I dont like making gaping security holes, it makes me feel like microsoft...
[12:42] <DBO> liable, what do you think about abandoning SSH and going for a giant samba share?
[12:42] <annie> DBO .. hee hee not good ... n e way .. telnet said: " could not resolve 127.0.0.1:22/telnet: Name or service not known"
[12:42] <aaA^> bimberi: it then says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:42] <aaA^> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:42] <DBO> Frogzoo, large club?
[12:43] <liable> DBO: the challenge! :)
[12:43] <liable> annie: no, telnet 127.0.0.1 22
[12:43] <DBO> liable, there are only so many challenges I will take a 6AM
[12:43] <Frogzoo> seriously jablotronk, it will make your life much easier
[12:43] <bimberi> aaA^: hm, is there another apt process running (eg. an apt-get in a terminal?)
[12:43] <liable> DBO: heh
[12:43] <aaA^> nope
[12:43] <DBO> liable, just tell me when you are ready to go to samba, Ill have the configuration ready to role
[12:43] <aaA^> just started the machine
[12:43] <liable> hah
[12:44] <healot> aaA^, synaptic?
[12:44] <jablotronk> Frogzoo, how much unstable it is ?
[12:44] <aaA^> yeah
[12:44] <annie> liable .. says "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.1p1 Debian-7ubuntu4.1"
[12:44] <Frogzoo> jablotronk: 5.10 is breezy - it's latest stable release
[12:44] <liable> annie: good, type quit
[12:44] <Jemt_Jy> Frogzoo: Should I use "2 screens - one framebuffer" or "2 screens - two drivers" to get different content on my two screens? Please note that both screens is connected when I'm home but I'm only using the "build-in" laptop screen when I'm on work
[12:44] <GG> hi, I have been so stupid an removed /etc/postfix and now i cant install it again, please help me
[12:44] <annie> liable: done
[12:45] <liable> annie: set your ip's back and try from client side
[12:45] <healot> jablotronk, or you would prefer Fedora Core 5, the coolest Fedora Core around
[12:45] <gnomefreak> aaA^: dapper?
[12:45] <jablotronk> Frogzoo, sorry i was confused, i have Breezy
[12:45] <bimberi> aaA^: does 'sudo fuser /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' output anything?
[12:45] <DBO> liable, you think perhaps her ssh client could be fubar?
[12:45] <aaA^> breezy badger 5.10
[12:45] <liable> DBO: frankly, i dont know what to think atm.
[12:46] <jablotronk> Frogzoo,  yeah 5.10 not 5.06
[12:46] <liable> annie: with the ip, not 127..
[12:46] <gnomefreak> aaA^: try opening the updater than closing it and see if that helps
[12:46] <Frogzoo> Jemt_Jy: not really sure, try & see
[12:46] <gnomefreak> jablotronk: you want 5.10 no 6.06
[12:46] <Jemt_Jy> Frogzoo: Roger :)
[12:46] <DBO> annie, are you running ubuntu 5.10 on mach 2?
[12:46] <aaA^> bimberi it says /var/lib/apt/lists/lock:  7778
[12:46] <aaA^> gnomefreak: which updater?
[12:46] <bina> is there any way you can find out what is using a certain Dir, when trying to mount /dev/hdb1 I keep getting an eror saying that its already mounted (which it isnt according to mtab) or the mount point is busy
[12:47] <gnomefreak> aaA^: system>admin>updatemanager
[12:47] <DBO> bina, does it mount it properly?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> aaA^: once its done searching close it than try synaptic again
[12:47] <healot> bina type "mount" to list all the mounted partitions
[12:47] <bina> DBO: it doesnt seem to do anything
[12:47] <gnomefreak> aaA^: ^^^ thats the work around on dapper atleast
[12:48] <DBO> so the error is just cosmetic, or its not mounting it?
[12:48] <bina> healot: no /dev/hdb1 in there
[12:48] <bina> DBO: it isnt mounting it
[12:49] <aaA^> gnomefreak: still does the same thing... i didnt install the updates.. just let it search then hit "closE"
[12:49] <DBO> bina, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[12:49] <DBO> lets take a look at it
[12:49] <annie> liable: yes, on same dist on both and ping now works both ways with server set to 192.168.1.10 and client on 192.168.1.11
[12:49] <healot> bina, because there is no partition node "/dev/hdb1"!
[12:49] <jablotronk> i cant uninstall that Quodlibet player, after i #sudo make uninstall it says No rule to make target `uninstall'
[12:49] <bimberi> aaA^: check what that process is - 'ps aux | grep 7778'
[12:50] <annie> liable and DBO ... gotta go get kids .. I will come back here in about an hour
[12:50] <DBO> annie, I will be asleep... I hope
[12:50] <bina> healot: I could mount /dev/hdb1 in single user mode
[12:50] <aaA^> wait
[12:51] <annie> DBO: thanks for so much help and time ... enjoy your sleep
[12:51] <aaA^> suddenly sypnatic is working
[12:51] <aaA^> whatever made it work
[12:51] <linlin> what would be a good way to monitor if my machine is being portscanned and if anoyone tries to connect to a port
[12:51] <aaA^> who knows
[12:51] <bina> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11306
[12:51] <aaA^> but thanx anyways guys
[12:51] <DBO> linlin, ethereal if you want to do it manually
[12:51] <DBO> snort if you want to automate it
[12:51] <NRG88> is there a safe way to install gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[12:51] <linlin> hmm ethereal...elaborate?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> NRG88: no
[12:52] <aaA^> thanx bimberi and gnomefreak
[12:52] <DBO> linlin "sudo apt-get install ethereal"
[12:52] <bimberi> aaA^: yw :)
[12:52] <DBO> its a packet sniffer, it reads all the traffic that arrives at your box and lets you see it
[12:52] <GG> how can I install the postfix conf files again????
[12:52] <tokeman> if you have USB support on your cable modem it makes it very easy no need for messing aroud with the card if its giving you trouble
[12:53] <gnomefreak> aaA^: your welcome  can you run it in terminal? apt-get update or does it fail with same error?
[12:53] <bimberi> bina: do you have a terminal open with /Music as its working directory?
[12:53] <linlin> yes i'm framiliar with ethereal, im just wondering what specifically im looking for in ethereal
[12:53] <aaA^> gnomefreak: it works in terminal now... it wasnt working b4
[12:54] <linlin> just start it up and let it do its thing?
[12:54] <liable> GG: you deleted them??
[12:54] <DBO> linlin, yes and no, but you would have to know how to read its traffic
[12:54] <GG> liable, yeah deltede /etc/postfix
[12:54] <gnomefreak> aaA^: after running that in term it should work in synaptic now too
[12:54] <liable> GG: why?
[12:54] <bina> bimberi: not as far as I'm aware, it failed on boot too
[12:54] <linlin> i think ill give it a try i guess
[12:55] <GG> liable, wanted start from scrach but that what not the right way to do it
[12:55] <aaA^> gnomefreak: yeah they both work now
[12:55] <gnomefreak> ;)
[12:55] <GG> liable, got some strange errors in my mail log
[12:55] <Frogzoo> linlin: snort is a good traffic monitor for security
[12:55] <_harm> ok.. konqeurer automatically loads any index.html file even from local harddrive how do i disable that?
[12:55] <aaA^> thanx
[12:55] <aaA^> im asking ubugtu about mp3s
[12:55] <DBO> linlin, "sudo apt-get install snort"
[12:55] <linlin> is snort apt-gettable?
[12:55] <aaA^> but s/he isnt telling me anything
[12:55] <linlin> k
[12:55] <liable> GG: anyway.. make that dir again, and install the postfix .deb (from /var/cache/apt/) with --confmiss option
[12:55] <aaA^> or it
[12:55] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[12:55] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:55] <bimberi> aaA^: try ubotu
[12:55] <aaA^> oh thats the one
[12:56] <aaA^> thanks
[12:56] <DBO> linlin, what are you worried for?
[12:56] <healot> linlin, and a good to pull a few smoke :)
[12:56] <gnomefreak> aaA^: Ubugtu doesnt have the factoid set up yet
[12:56] <bina> bimberi, DBO: it wouldn't be because I haven't compiled something into my kernel would it?  / uses the same filesystem as /Music should do
[12:56] <linlin> nothing in perticular, just curious to see what kind of traffic flows past my machine
[12:56] <healot> aaA^, encoding/ripping or just want to play mp3 audio files?
[12:57] <tokeman> I'm having trouble loading up aMSN
[12:57] <[derek] > a silly question from newbie
[12:57] <DBO> bina, it should work, but you could try and see what happens if you try to mount it in /mnt/music (make the folder first of course)
[12:57] <[derek] > sudo apt-get install j2rel.4
[12:57] <[derek] > Password:
[12:57] <[derek] > Reading package lists... Done
[12:57] <[derek] > Building dependency tree... Done
[12:57] <[derek] > E: Couldn't find package j2rel.4
[12:57] <healot> for an enjoyable play time do it with "xmms"
[12:57] <DBO> !paste
[12:57] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:57] <_harm> tokeman i found gaim beter then amsn :P
[12:57] <bimberi> bina: does 'sudo fdisk /dev/hdb' list the partition?
[12:57] <[derek] > why i can't download the file ?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> [derek] : use javadebs site
[12:57] <gnomefreak> !javadebs
[12:57] <aaA^> heatlot: playing
[12:57] <liable> [derek] : never heard of apt-cache search??
[12:57] <tokeman> lol thanks but can you go on the microcrap servers?
[12:58] <bina> bimberi: yeah /dev/hdb1               1       39703    20010280+  83  Linux
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell [derek]  about javadebs
[12:58] <[derek] > liable: i am totally new to ubuntu
[12:58] <bimberi> [derek] : multiverse enabled?  not using ppc?
[12:58] <healot> [derek] , expand your repos
[12:58] <shukhrat> Hello dear all
[12:58] <bimberi> !tell [derek]  about multiverse
[12:58] <gnomefreak> is there anything that ubuntu has that will decode a dvd so i can burn it?
[12:58] <healot> !repos
[12:58] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:58] <[derek] > thank you thnaks for the help
[12:58] <polopolo> My ubuntu cannot read a fat32 partition
[12:59] <gnomefreak> !fat32
[12:59] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:59] <bina> DBO: mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /mnt/music busy  when I do sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/music
[12:59] <shukhrat> i have troble with php5
[12:59] <_harm> ok.. konqeurer automatically loads any index.html file even from local harddrive how do i disable that?
[12:59] <shukhrat> !php
[12:59] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:59] <healot> polopolo, sure it doesn't, you haven't properly mount that partition yet///
[01:00] <GTroy> hey guys can you sudo apt-get distro upgrade from breezy to drake fl.6?
[01:00] <aaA^> heatlot: one step ahead of you already downoading it .. thanks :)
[01:00] <polopolo> Must I mount it first?
[01:00] <GTroy> I'm guessing you can't
[01:00] <bina> DBO, bimberi: I'll try booting a proper Ubuntu kernel, see if that makes any difference. brb
[01:00] <embrik> I'm not able to run make install, trying to install printerdrivers for hplaserjet 1020
[01:00] <healot> polopolo, guess if you don;t? sure "mount" it first
[01:00] <GTroy> !upgrade
[01:00] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[01:00] <embrik> I do this: sudo make install
[01:01] <GG> liable, can you give me the exact way of typing it, please can seem to do it right
[01:01] <aaA^> another problem im having
[01:01] <tokeman> ok I feel dumb now..I did not know gaim had a msn option
[01:01] <_harm> tokeman it does and its good :)
[01:02] <DBO> yep, thats a dummy move
[01:02] <jemt> Hm, I have just successfully created a xorg.conf file with support for multiple monitors - except that there is only a picture on the secondary screen. http://powerzone.dk/xorg.conf.txt  <==  Any suggestions ?
[01:02] <bug_> \j #unbuntufr
[01:02] <gnomefreak> aaA^: whats that?
[01:02] <healot> embrik, thre driver is available in ubuntu... checkout your cups printer manager
[01:02] <tokeman> it is very good thank you:)
[01:02] <aaA^> i need gcj for java but when i attempt to compile with the gcj command it says gcj: libgcj.spec: No such file or directory
[01:02] <tjansson> How do I run networkmanager after I installed it - I can't find it
[01:02] <_harm> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' <-- what does this mean? its pissing me off :P
[01:02] <DBO> dont worry tokeman, I once erased my entire disk once with the rm -rf / command (forgot to finish the path)
[01:02] <shukhrat> how enaible in php extension gd
[01:02] <shukhrat> ?
[01:02] <tokeman> hehe
[01:02] <tokeman> well i'm new to the linux world
[01:03] <gnomefreak> _harm: it means there is a stray mark in the script or sources.list or where ever the path it gives you
[01:03] <DBO> GAIM is windows too =)
[01:03] <bimberi> !find libgcj.spec
[01:03] <tokeman> so I hear
[01:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libgcj.spec' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libgcj.spec) in libdevel/libgcj6-dev ;; (/usr/lib/gcc-snapshot/lib/libgcj.spec) in universe/devel/gcc-snapshot.
[01:03] <bimberi> aaA^: install libgcj6-dev
[01:03] <embrik> healot: I could only find 1015 and 1022. None of them worked..
[01:04] <shukhrat> need help in php Please
[01:04] <_harm> gnomefreak how do i solve this its rather vital its the website for my company which i need to unrar.. but konqeurer wont display a folder content cuz there is a .index in it and it loads that. And i cant seem to copy the folder via consule
[01:04] <DBO> alright ladies a germs, Im outa here!
[01:04] <DBO> BED HERE I COME!
[01:04] <aaA^> alright thanks man
[01:04] <aaA^> so i cant type that too or not ?
[01:04] <aaA^> lets see
[01:04] <embrik> healot: have yu succeded in installing this printer?
[01:04] <aaA^> !find libgcj.spec
[01:04] <aaA^> damn
[01:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libgcj.spec' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libgcj.spec) in libdevel/libgcj6-dev ;; (/usr/lib/gcc-snapshot/lib/libgcj.spec) in universe/devel/gcc-snapshot.
[01:05] <bimberi> aaA^: note that you can do contents searches like that at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <bimberi> aaA^: patience :)
[01:05] <aaA^> hehe
[01:05] <aaA^> fo sho
[01:05] <gnomefreak> _harm: make sure the command you are using is right (to start with)
[01:05] <shukhrat> need help in php Please
[01:05] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[01:05] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:05] <aaA^> dont worry im a sports fan i have plenty of patience
[01:05] <aaA^> :)
[01:05] <_harm> gnomefreak iam just using unrar /path/ /destination
[01:05] <bimberi> aaA^: :)
[01:06] <bina> bimberi, DBO: V odd, its working now :) wonder whether its the kernel or just because I rebooted
[01:06] <gnomefreak> _harm: any ' ` there that maybe shouldnt be?
[01:06] <bina> I'll experiement next time i reboot :)
[01:06] <gnomefreak> near a (
[01:06] <_harm> nope perhaps its the ( or a )?
[01:06] <_harm> lemme check 2 b sure
[01:06] <bina> bimberi, DBO: thanks for your help
[01:06] <gnomefreak> _harm: it could be
[01:06] <shukhrat> how enaible gd lib. in php5 ?
[01:06] <bimberi> bina: i lean towards the reboot - np :)
[01:07] <_harm> gnomefreak /media/data/Backup/Downloads/AnyWear(1).rar
[01:07] <gnomefreak> _harm: did taking the ( away help?
[01:07] <GG> how do I force apt-get to reinstall postfix config files?
[01:07] <_harm> huh? its in the filepath..
[01:08] <gnomefreak> GG: sudo apt-get install --reinstall postfix
[01:08] <_harm> its on a ntsf harddrive.. and i need to copy it from there or unrar it from there =X
[01:08] <GTroy> what/how do you change your sources.list to move from 5.10 to 6.06?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> GTroy: use the updater tool please
[01:09] <GTroy> gnomefreak: I've never used it, where is it?
[01:09] <bimberi> !upgrade
[01:09] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[01:09] <GG> gnomefreak, postfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/postfix-script: No such file or directory
[01:09] <liable> GG: dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/foo.deb
[01:09] <gnomefreak> _harm: i avoid ntfs like the plege
[01:10] <[derek] > wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/gnome-clipboard-daemon-1.0.bin.tar.bz2
[01:10] <[derek] > ops sorry
[01:10] <gnomefreak> [derek] :  no
[01:10] <[derek] >  wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/gnome-clipboard-daemon-1.0.bin.tar.bz2
[01:10] <[derek] > --19:07:57--  http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/gnome-clipboard-daemon-1.0.bin.tar.bz2
[01:10] <[derek] >            => `gnome-clipboard-daemon-1.0.bin.tar.bz2'
[01:10] <[derek] > Resolving frankandjacq.com... 66.246.156.115
[01:10] <[derek] > Connecting to frankandjacq.com|66.246.156.115|:80... connected.
[01:10] <[derek] > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[01:10] <shukhrat> how enaible GD Grafical Lib in php5 ?
[01:10] <[derek] > 19:08:00 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[01:10] <gnomefreak> dont use that guide and please dont ever advise it in this channel
[01:10] <gnomefreak> and dont paste
[01:10] <bimberi> hat trick :P
[01:10] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:11] <[derek] > i follow the guide from http://ubuntuguige.squarecows.com
[01:11] <gnomefreak> [derek] : thats your first mistake
[01:11] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[01:11] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:11] <gnomefreak> use the offical ones please
[01:11] <GG> liable, thx
[01:11] <[derek] > i see
[01:11] <[derek] >  thanks very much
[01:12] <_harm> how can i stop konqeurer from loading index.* files from harddrive?
[01:14] <[derek] > another stupid and silly question what is the different between ubuntu and wiki ubuntu ?
[01:15] <pjv> is there a way i can send evolution on the systems tray?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> [derek] : wikis are maintained and wrote by ubuntu users/members
[01:16] <gnomefreak> [derek] : there is a team that looks over them and makes sure they work and are good
[01:17] <gnomefreak> pjv: i think there is a package in synaptic for that
[01:18] <pjv> gnomefreak: i have been searching in google and asking in freenode about it for the atleast several days, i can't seem to find one, and i'm still looking at google
[01:18] <GTroy> !upgrade
[01:18] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[01:19] <GTroy> whenever I add that last line to my sources.list I get a lock!!!
[01:19] <pjv> gnomefreak: if you could remember the app, i would greatly appreciate it
[01:19] <GTroy> and since I added it via software updater I can't remove it
[01:20] <[derek] > gnomefreak: thanks for your precious information really thanks you very much
[01:20] <[derek] > i am going off line now
[01:20] <gnomefreak> pjv: i will let you know what mine is called if i find it
[01:20] <pjv> ok ty
[01:22] <gnomefreak> pjv: see if you have this package evolution-plugins
[01:22] <pjv> i'll look for it
[01:23] <shukhrat> !tar.gz
[01:23] <ubotu> hmm... tar.gz is a compressed archive similar to a zip file.  tar zxvf filename.tar.gz to extract.
[01:24] <shukhrat> !GD Graphics Library
[01:24] <ubotu> shukhrat: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:24] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:25] <DerHeller> sers
[01:25] <DerHeller> hat einer von euch n scanner am laufen von acer am usb?irgendwie haut das bei mir net so recht hin
[01:25] <pjv> gnomefreak: i don't seem to have it, but i will look for it
[01:25] <pjv> ty
[01:26] <Bambino> anyone here good with installing wireless? Cause i am not getting mine to work
[01:27] <bimberi> !wifi
[01:27] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:27] <bimberi> Bambino: hopefully something there ^^^^ will help
[01:27] <shukhrat> how enaible GD Graphics Library in php
[01:27] <Bambino> bimberi, i read that one but i am stillnot getting it to detect it =(
[01:28] <aaA^> thanks for the help everyone
[01:28] <aaA^> peace
[01:28] <remke> goedemiddag allemaal ,,,
[01:29] <remke> Is er iemand die mij wellicht kan helpen met het mounten van een firewire drive ... Ik heb gelezen, gegoogled en wat al niet meer maar kan het niet vinden ...
[01:30] <Misnix> !nl
[01:30] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[01:30] <bimberi> Bambino: sorry all i can do is point you to wiki pages ...
[01:30] <bimberi> !wireless
[01:30] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[01:31] <embrik> anybody with success installing hp laserjet1020?
[01:32] <remke> I'm having trouble mounting a firewire hdd with ubuntu .... is there someone who wants to help me ?
[01:33] <remke> brb
[01:33] <CBTC> which kernel does Ubuntu install from 5.10 cd
[01:33] <GG> how do I active remote desktop for ubutnu from console(vnc)
[01:33] <bimberi> CBTC: 2.6.12
[01:34] <CBTC> bimberi: Thanks
[01:34] <bimberi> CBTC: yw :)
[01:34] <Arafangi1n> Where can I find the documentation for openoffice.org2-dev-doc?
[01:34] <Arafangi1n> It's NOT in /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org2-dev-doc/
[01:35] <Baranpl> czesc
[01:35] <Baranpl> jest jakis polak?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> Arafangi1n: apt-cache search openoffice.org2   you should see it there if you can get it
[01:35] <gnomefreak> !pl
[01:35] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[01:35] <Arafangi1n> gnomefreak: And yes, I've already installed openoffice.org2-dev-doc
[01:36] <Arafangi1n> gnomefreak: It was a 4.8MB download, and there were no errors.
[01:36] <Arafangi1n> gnomefreak: Tiny, because the windows SDK was 40 MB compressed, but anyway, my question now is "Where are the files?"
[01:36] <jablotronk> is normal to have multiple usr/bin/esd -nobeeps runned at one time ?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> Arafangi1n: im not sure wher eyou would find that if its not in usr/share/docs
[01:36] <bimberi> Arafangi1n: dpkg -L openoffice.org2-dev-doc
[01:37] <Arafangi1n> bimberi: Thanks, I'll try that.
[01:38] <Arafangi1n> Hmm, in /usr/lib/openoffice2/sdk... well, whatever rocks their boat, I guess.
[01:38] <Arafangi1n> Thanks bimberi for that hint.
[01:38] <bimberi> Arafangi1n: np :)
[01:40] <bimberi> GG: when i run the remote desktop ps auxww shows me "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_RemoteDesktopServer --oaf-ior-fd=61" (running as my user)
[01:41] <Bambino> JESUS CHRIST MAN I HATE UBUNTU
[01:41] <Bambino> i wanted to change my resolution
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Bambino: language please
[01:41] <GG> bimberi, hmm oki
[01:41] <gnomefreak> !fixres
[01:41] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:41] <Bambino> so i got a tip on how to, i did everything in the consol with something called xorg (I am a newbie, saw linx for the first timei n my life yesterday
[01:42] <Bambino> yes gnomefreak, thats the link i got
[01:42] <_GaNgStA_> help me pls
[01:42] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[01:42] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:42] <_GaNgStA_> about gnome 2.14
[01:42] <gnomefreak> Bambino: you lost your gui?
[01:42] <_GaNgStA_> private
[01:42] <gnomefreak> _GaNgStA_: little more info please
[01:42] <Bambino> i did like it said, but it fixes more then just resolution, it asks you about the keyboard, about how much memory my video card has, etc, etc
[01:42] <gnomefreak> _GaNgStA_: if you are running 5.10 you cant have gnome 2.14
[01:42] <Bambino> and i am clueless so i "guessed" my way to everything, and the keyboard settings as well
[01:43] <Bambino> I am on a swedish keyboard.
[01:43] <Bambino> now only the , the swedish signs works. i cant even log in :P
[01:43] <_GaNgStA_> yeap
[01:43] <_GaNgStA_> private
[01:43] <gnomefreak> Bambino: yes thats the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ;)
[01:43] <gnomefreak> _GaNgStA_: no in channel please
[01:43] <Bambino> gnomefreak, so why did it stop working, the keyboard?
[01:43] <Bambino> i cant even log in anymore so i need to reinstall, for the 4th time.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> Bambino: you changed a setting you shouldnt have (whats not working)?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> Bambino: is it just the keyboard?>
[01:44] <yanvan> hi
[01:44] <_GaNgStA_> I wont the replace gnome 2.14 wht gnome2.14
[01:44] <_GaNgStA_> I wont the replace gnome 2.12 wht gnome2.14
[01:45] <gnomefreak> _GaNgStA_: on ubuntu5.10 you cant
[01:45] <vinboy> hi
[01:45] <_GaNgStA_> no
[01:45] <Bambino> gnomefreak, well i cant log in, and the keyboard is not working. for some reason the configuration asked me for my keyboard settings twice, and both times i added "se" for swedish
[01:45] <vinboy> how do I convert my NTFS partition to ext3 or ext 2 without formatting?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> _GaNgStA_: without breaking your system there is no way to do that
[01:45] <sfar_> whats the best program to use if i want to limit my bandwidth?
[01:45] <_GaNgStA_> 10x
[01:46] <_GaNgStA_> thanks
[01:46] <_GaNgStA_> man
[01:46] <_GaNgStA_> i`m in bulgaria
[01:46] <gnomefreak> Bambino: what was it set on to begin with?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> vinboy: not sure
[01:46] <ccc_> Bambino: why did you change things? just press enter at each dialog to use the current settings.
[01:47] <vinboy> gnomefreak: thx :)
[01:47] <vinboy> during setup, should I choose ext3 or ext2?
[01:47] <vinboy> i'm not sure about the difference
[01:47] <gnomefreak> vinboy: your welcome sorry wish i knew someone may be in here hiding that knows though ;)
[01:47] <_GaNgStA_> thanks to the care
[01:47] <Bambino> gnomefreak, it was set to se the first time, and second time , nothing, blanc
[01:47] <vinboy> many idlers here
[01:47] <Bambino> ccc_, it was blanc and it asked me to choose
[01:48] <gnomefreak> Bambino: run throught he command again and see if changing it to se helps (it might not have stuck)
[01:48] <gnomefreak> -t
[01:48] <Bambino> gnomefreak, i cant, i cant even log in ;)
[01:49] <Bambino> gnomefreak, cayse only 3 keys works and thats the swedish . plus the numeric keys works
[01:49] <gnomefreak> Bambino: where does it leave you? at a tty?
[01:49] <_harm> I need to disable the auto open index.html! i cant view a folder cuz everytime konqeurer just opens the index
[01:49] <vinboy> argh... just found out that ext3 is slower than ext2 :(
[01:49] <gnomefreak> Bambino: try unplugging and plugging the keyboard back in
[01:50] <vinboy> how do I convert my ext3 to ext2?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> vinboy: ext3 is ext2 with journeling
[01:50] <_harm> gnomefreak can u please help me?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> _harm: with?
[01:50] <vinboy> gnomefreak: and so it is slower rite?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> vinboy: i never saw it being slower
[01:51] <vinboy> oh ok
[01:51] <Bambino> gnomefreak, its a laptop ;)
[01:51] <_harm> well konqeurer opens any index.html it finds so i have a folder /home/site and it just auto loads the index how do i disable this?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> Bambino: im not a laptop kind of guy sorry
[01:51] <BlueHeron> how do i remove a program isntalled from source
[01:51] <BlueHeron> ?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: you installed from tar?
[01:52] <BlueHeron> yea
[01:52] <gnomefreak> get rid of the tar first than sudo dpkg -r file.deb
[01:52] <BlueHeron> their is no .deb
[01:52] <Bambino> Oki, well i will reinstall no prob
[01:52] <gnomefreak> _harm: im assuming your on kubuntu
[01:52] <_harm> yes
[01:52] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: why isnt there?
[01:52] <_harm> well ubuntu server install with KDE ;)
[01:52] <BlueHeron> i installed from source
[01:52] <BlueHeron> ..
[01:53] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: what does make install do?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> makes a .deb
[01:53] <Bambino> Now i have another question. Setting up my wirelss,i am needed to download gcc-3.4-base_3.4.4-6ubuntu8_amd64.deb but in the package site, i only see it without the 64bit... does anyone know where i can find the 64bit?
[01:53] <ompaul> _harm, try this >> /usr/share/doc/python2.4/html/ <<
[01:53] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: trust me when you compile something it makes a deb so it can be installed
[01:53] <BlueHeron> gnomefreak: actually thats check install isn't it ..
[01:53] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: checkinstall does it also
[01:53] <jackal83_> #ubuntu-it
[01:54] <BlueHeron> gnomefreak: synaptic is showing no amarok installed but i have it
[01:54] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: you cant install non debs
[01:54] <ompaul> _harm, that works for me with a default knoqueror - if that trailing / fails then I suggest you go to #kubuntu where there are over a hundred and fifty kubuntu users
[01:54] <gnomefreak> alien changes .rpm to deb compiling takes tar and changes it to deb
[01:54] <_harm> iam there but no one seems to know :S
[01:54] <_harm> argh :S
[01:54] <_harm> thx anyway :)
[01:55] <ompaul> Bambino, have a look on the wiki for chroot it explains it miles better than irc ever will
[01:55] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: apt-cache policy packagename
[01:55] <BlueHeron> gnomefreak: well i don't know where the .deb is .
[01:55] <gnomefreak> ^^ first run that
[01:55] <BlueHeron> says none installed
[01:55] <BlueHeron> but i can run it ..
[01:55] <ompaul> _harm, did you read what I wrote make sure the put in the directory in full with the trailing /
[01:56] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: ok now thats weird
[01:56] <gnomefreak> if you can use it its installed
[01:56] <Bambino> ompaul, considering i never used linux, or even seen it before, that wont help me much ;)
[01:56] <Ints> Hey all
[01:56] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: what app is it?
[01:56] <BlueHeron> amarok
[01:56] <Ints> Could anyone where I could get some help for my problem with a realtek 8029 nic
[01:57] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: and apt-cache policy amarok says its not there?
[01:57] <_harm> ompual you know a good FPT client?
[01:57] <BlueHeron> gnomefreak: yes
[01:57] <ompaul> Bambino, it explains in detail each step to take to get from here to there - all I would do with you is echo that page in here - it is detailed and exact in its instructions
[01:57] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: try locate amarok.deb    BlueHeron btw amarok is in the repos why did you compile it?
[01:57] <BlueHeron> gnomefreak: for ipod support
[01:58] <maxd> hello all
[01:58] <gnomefreak> oh i see
[01:58] <GG> is there a way to start and setup vino via ssh?
[01:58] <maxd> a quick question to save me for downloading onother iso. I have dapper flight5 .. can be upgrade to flight6 using apt ?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> BlueHeron: there has to be a deb on the system for it if your able to use it locate should find it
[01:59] <_Hz> What is finland's hub?
[01:59] <_Hz> Ubuntu-FI?
[01:59] <gnomefreak> maxd: once a flight is installed you just get the updates that the iso has
[01:59] <bimberi> !fi
[01:59] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[01:59] <Bambino> !se
[01:59] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[01:59] <gnomefreak> using your updater or dist-upgrade or upgrade will make you current
[02:00] <maxd> gnomefreak, thats a yes ? apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will do the job ?
[02:00] <nahoj> a question, how do i put password protection on files or archives?
[02:01] <bimberi> maxd: dist-upgrade would be best, you'll then be fully up to date, probably ahead of flight6 :)
[02:02] <maxd> thanks alot boys :) btw flash on 64 bit needs work :) other than that great work with 6 :):)
[02:02] <rob_p> nahoj:  You can use gnupg to encrypt them, thus requiring a passphrase to decrypt them.
[02:03] <gnomefreak> maxd: me i use dist-upgrade just because it grabs everything plus any new kernels that dapper has
[02:03] <Ints> could somoene help me, my realtek 8029 isn't working on Ubuntu... is there a way to make it work?
[02:03] <maxd> see you all in a few
[02:04] <Ints> its a network card
[02:04] <gnomefreak> Ints: you might need drivers see if your card is on the hardware site
[02:04] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[02:04] <ubotu> hardware is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:05] <avinoam> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup an ad-hoc wireless network so that my laptop with ubuntu can host internet for my friend's laptop with windows xp. I couldn't find a howto. Any ideas?
[02:05] <nahoj> rob_p: so there is no easy way to just request a password everytime someone wants to browse or open it?
[02:06] <maxd> Intangir, 8029 ? 10 mbit ? should work its like a standar | i had a problem though with 8029 in the past and it had to do with the ACPI - i disable it swithc it to APM an worked
[02:07] <Bambino> Does this exist: gcc-4.4-base_3.4.4-6ubuntu8 ?
[02:07] <maxd> not on ubuntu though
[02:08] <Speedlink|war> Im abit hangover, what was the command to check the process list?
[02:08] <sfar_> ps aux
[02:08] <Speedlink|war> thanks
[02:08] <Speedlink|war> exactly what i was looking for
[02:08] <Speedlink|war> an
[02:08] <Speedlink|war> and*
[02:08] <Ints> gnomefreak: it says it should autodetect and all, but it doesn't... :(
[02:08] <Hobbsee> Bambino: i dont think so, but check on packages.ubuntu.org
[02:08] <Speedlink|war> How do i set the clock on ubuntu server correct?
[02:08] <Bambino> Hobbsee, i was there. I cant find it. Maybe the guy who wrote this guide made an error, this is what he wrote:
[02:09] <Hobbsee> must have
[02:09] <Speedlink|war> How to set my clock correct on ubuntu-server? As it's wrong
[02:09] <samoht> hi
[02:10] <Bambino> Hobbsee, Download these packages from Ubuntu :gcc-3.4-base_3.4.4-6ubuntu8_amd64.deb (i found this one).. this one though i did not see in the package list gcc-4.4-base_3.4.4-6ubuntu8_amd64.de
[02:10] <Hobbsee> must be a typo
[02:10] <samoht> i switched from archlinux to ubuntu yesterday :)
[02:10] <Bambino> Well i thought so too, cause he wants me to download 2 other things:
[02:10] <Bambino> #
[02:10] <Bambino> cpp-3.4_3.4.4-6ubuntu8_amd64.deb
[02:10] <Bambino> #
[02:10] <Bambino> gcc-3.4_3.4.4-6ubuntu8_amd64.deb
[02:10] <Hobbsee> afaik, there is no gcc 4.4 yet...
[02:11] <Bambino> So what you think?
[02:11] <samoht> everythings fine but my alsa-config is crappy
[02:11] <samoht> gstreamer + dmix doesn't work
[02:11] <samoht> the sound stutters
[02:11] <Bambino> its for installing gcc 3.4.. so how should i install it? Do you know?
[02:11] <Speedlink|war> How to set my clock correct on ubuntu-server? As it's wrong
[02:12] <avinoam> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup an ad-hoc wireless network so that my laptop with ubuntu can host internet for my friend's laptop with windows xp. I couldn't find a howto. Any ideas?
[02:12] <Hobbsee> Bambino: install gcc-3.4
[02:12] <Bambino> Hobbsee, from where? I dont have a internet connection
[02:12] <annie> liable: are you still online ?
[02:12] <Hobbsee> packages.ubuntu.com - or maybe .org.
[02:13] <Bambino> Hobbsee, only wireless which i am on now from windows. i am trying to get the wireless to work on ubuntu
[02:13] <warty_> Sha Na Na Bunkweeda Sobekwan Ubuntu
[02:13] <Hobbsee> Bambino: ah yes, fun. do you need ndiswrapper for it?
[02:13] <warty_> Las Vegas
[02:13] <Bambino> Hobbsee, yes, though ndiswrapper i have it on the cd or something so it can be installed
[02:13] <Speedlink|war> gah, someone help me out ?
[02:14] <Hobbsee> Bambino: yes, so why do you need gcc to compile anything?
[02:14] <warty_> Help me get out
[02:14] <Bambino> Hobbsee, hmm i have no idea man. I am new to this, i got introduced to linux yesterday
[02:15] <Bambino> Hobbsee, and to set up my wireless i am following a guide, and there it tells me to download 4 things. However, i only found the first one, the econd one doesnt exist. so trying the third and 4th one now
[02:15] <Hobbsee> Bambino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-ca33fd114571c6d6326d1e7dc9e97d1c0a64ffe1
[02:15] <warty_> 13 x 5 corner to corner division proves that you cannot trust anything
[02:15] <Hobbsee> Bambino: you shouldnt need the latest ndiswrapper - you're on breezy?
[02:16] <warty_> Does anyone in here enjoy breaking/smashing things
[02:16] <Bambino> Hobbsee, uhm, how do I know if i am on breezy?
[02:17] <Hobbsee> Bambino: uname -r - does it say 2.6.10* or 2.6.15*
[02:18] <Hobbsee> no..wait...
[02:18] <Bambino> Hobbsee, good question to find out that i need to restart my laptop to log on ubuntu ;)
[02:18] <Hobbsee> Bambino: when you installed it, did you have a graphical installer at the start?
[02:18] <Bambino> Hobbsee, however i had the ndiswrapper and it worked when i wrapped a inf file that i should
[02:18] <Hobbsee> yes, so why are you compiling, if that wont work?
[02:18] <Hobbsee> !wifi
[02:18] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:18] <Hobbsee> follow that guide :P
[02:19] <Bambino> Hobbsee, Hmm? Mate, i need a gcc compiler, i am following a guide to install a broadcom wireless.
[02:19] <Bambino> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Acer5021WLMi_Amd64?action=show&redirect=WiFiHowto%2FAcer5021WLMiConfiguration this guide
[02:20] <LocoLappy> hello
[02:20] <Hobbsee> Bambino: well there you go.  gcc should be part of build-essentials
[02:21] <LocoLappy> lost power here at the house and turns out my laptop battery was not charged enough
[02:21] <LocoLappy> :(
[02:21] <Bambino> Hobbsee, oh ok
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Bambino: you'll also need to install  linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:21] <Bambino> can i do that without downloading anything, hobbse?
[02:23] <avinoam> yeah i'm using dnsmasq
[02:24] <Hobbsee> Bambino: no, you'll need to download them
[02:24] <equador> how do, on the desktop is showing trash, and home icons ?
[02:24] <DaS_CoAcH> hi@all
[02:25] <sfar_> hi@you
[02:25] <DaS_CoAcH> my k3b doesn't want to burn a data dvd, what shall i do?
[02:25] <bimberi> equador: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor, /apps/nautilus/desktop, check home_icon_visible and trash_icon_visible
[02:27] <DaS_CoAcH> does anyone have an idea?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> DaS_CoAcH, do you have lidvdcss installed?
[02:27] <devzero> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a hp nx8220 laptop, when i boot it runs a lot of stuff, then i get black screen and nothing happens, any idea what I can do about it?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> libdvdcss
[02:28] <gnomefreak> das or any other dvd stuff?
[02:28] <DaS_CoAcH> i don't know, let's see
[02:28] <DaS_CoAcH> ...
[02:28] <gnomefreak> DaS_CoAcH, here ill give you a site
[02:28] <DaS_CoAcH> no, i don't even have this in my repository
[02:28] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[02:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:29] <bimberi> _data_ dvd though
[02:29] <gnomefreak> bimberi, its still dvd format though no?
[02:30] <GNU_Style>  is microsoft really patenting the ONES and ZEROS?
[02:30] <LocoLappy> whats that url for the sudo stuff after an install
[02:30] <bimberi> gnomefreak: i'm pretty sure that libdvdcss isn't needed to burn a data dvd
[02:30] <shukhrat> !ttf
[02:31] <ubotu> shukhrat: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:31] <bimberi> !sudo
[02:31] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> !rootsudo
[02:31] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:31] <LocoLappy> thanks bimberi
[02:31] <gnomefreak> ^^^ that one?
[02:31] <DaS_CoAcH> it says something like: failed to change writing speed
[02:31] <LocoLappy> thanks uboto
[02:31] <LocoLappy> ubotu***
[02:31] <DaS_CoAcH> error on startup: unknown argument (i think, i've got an german-message=P)
[02:31] <gnomefreak> DaS_CoAcH, what was the error that it gives you when trying to burn the data?
[02:32] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have true type fonts for
[02:32] <DaS_CoAcH> gnomefreak: look above
[02:32] <bimberi> LocoLappy: yw :)   (ubotu is a bot btw - say 'ubuto thanks' to it :) )
[02:32] <bimberi> *ubotu thanks     (sorry)
[02:32] <gnomefreak> DaS_CoAcH, see if you can do it using nautilus if you are on gnome
[02:33] <DaS_CoAcH> how does it work with nautilus???O_o???
[02:33] <avinoam> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup an ad-hoc wireless network so that my laptop with ubuntu can host internet for my friend's laptop with windows xp. I couldn't find a howto. Any ideas?
[02:33] <DaS_CoAcH> oh, i see
[02:34] <gnomefreak> DaS_CoAcH, stick the blank dvd in and it should show a make dvd? popup
[02:34] <DaS_CoAcH> i disabled this feature, but i found it again^^
[02:35] <LocoLappy> ubotu thanks
[02:35] <ubotu> de rien, LocoLappy
[02:35] <LocoLappy> :L
[02:35] <LocoLappy> heh
[02:35] <shukhrat> does ubuntu have true type fonts for php ?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> thats right today is turn the clocks ahead :(
[02:35] <bimberi> LocoLappy: :)
[02:35] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[02:35] <ubotu> [fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[02:36] <avinoam> come on someone's gotta know
[02:36] <DaS_CoAcH> avinoam, no, i'm sry
[02:38] <gnomefreak> avinoam, if i had to guess thats _not_ gonna be a very easy (fun) thing to do
[02:38] <htinn> ad-hoc takes a bit more work, but you can do it
[02:38] <avinoam> htinn, i just don't have a router
[02:38] <rinke> Where can I find a Linux PPD driver for the Lexmark 45Z?
[02:39] <avinoam> htinn, gnomefreak, i just wanna serve wireless
[02:39] <htinn> i understand, avinoam (i had the same situation once)
[02:39] <htinn> avinoam, you can setup Firestarter to share your connection
[02:39] <gnomefreak> avinoam, does he not have an isp for his connection?
[02:39] <fish_> re
[02:39] <avinoam> htinn, i don't want to
[02:39] <avinoam> gnomefreak, no, he's my flatmate and wants to share my internet
[02:40] <DaS_CoAcH> gnomefreak, it works, thx
[02:41] <gnomefreak> avinoam, get a router and call it a day other wise your looking at getting another nic card for your pc and running his through yours and i would say thats not a good idea it will slow yours down alot and his also plus all the wires
[02:41] <gnomefreak> what worked?
[02:41] <avinoam> gnomefreak, i have a network card for my cable internet connection and a wireless card for the network
[02:42] <flac0x> bug in mkisofs?
[02:43] <flac0x> on breezy 64bit???
[02:43] <flac0x> with k3b?
[02:43] <avinoam> gnomefreak, i guess i'll give up and try firestarter
[02:43] <gnomefreak> avinoam, you have a wireless card but no router?
[02:43] <avinoam> gnomefreak, exactly
[02:44] <gnomefreak> explain to me how that works?
[02:44] <shukhrat> !game
[02:44] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shukhrat
[02:44] <avinoam> gnomefreak, what's the problem?
[02:44] <madewokherd> how do I get permission to run an X server?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> avinoam, how does the wireless card work without a router
[02:45] <avinoam> gnomefreak, usually i use it at access points
[02:45] <htinn> gnomefreak, it's the magic of ad-hoc mode :)
[02:45] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[02:45] <avinoam> but yeah i wanna ad-hoc it
[02:45] <avinoam> let's see what firestarter can do
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ok brb gonna boot back to ubuntu
[02:46] <htinn> firestarter is nice for sharing :)
[02:46] <madewokherd> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[02:46] <madewokherd> how do I make the user authorized?
[02:47] <avinoam> htinn, that's what i'm currently trying
[02:47] <avinoam> for some reason dhcp is grayed out though
[02:47] <htinn> so, just use static IP
[02:47] <LocoLappy> what are some good source urls to put into the source.list
[02:48] <SGershon> !easysource
[02:48] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:48] <avinoam> hmm it says that wlan0 is not ready
[02:49] <htinn> avinoam, network is a two-way street
[02:49] <htinn> and ad-hoc needs both ends working first
[02:50] <avinoam> htinn, i see
[02:50] <LocoLappy> thanks SGershon
[02:50] <sfar_> what can be wrong if i burn an ISO in linux and its not readable in windows?
[02:50] <htinn> once you have two ad-hoc connections, then you have a working network
[02:51] <avinoam> htinn, well how do i do that?
[02:51] <htinn> avinoam, you share out their IP, and they set the gateway to be your IP
[02:52] <avinoam> htinn, i set up dhcp
[02:52] <htinn> okay, so they can connect with DHCP :)
[02:52] <natasha> how do I change my user name?
[02:53] <avinoam> hmm let's see
[02:53] <Thug-N-Me>  what would be a good fronted client ftp ?
[02:54] <engla> Thug-N-Me: perhaps gftp, but I think it's ugly
[02:54] <engla> :/
[02:54] <wango> hi
[02:54] <sebastian> i have a conexant hsf modem... i installed the linuxant driver but it is only 14 Kbps speed!? how to get serial number to unlock it?
[02:54] <engla> Thug-N-Me: nautilus can act frontend too, but not the best one. May be enough for simple purposes
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> natasha,  System -> Administration -> Users and Groups
[02:55] <Thug-N-Me> engla thanks
[02:55] <jenda> anyone here using last.fm?
[03:00] <GNU_Style> hey
[03:02] <LadyNikon> morning class
[03:02] <LocoLappy> :L
[03:02] <bnoog> hello, how can I change my default desktop to KDE? I tried switchdesk, but the command wasn't found
[03:02] <LocoLappy> heh
[03:03] <bnoog> I use Breezy
[03:03] <GNU_Style> is there a BASH for windows?
[03:03] <bnoog> GNU_Style, yes
[03:03] <LadyNikon> do you have KDE installed bnoog ?
[03:03] <GNU_Style> bnoog, wats the name?
[03:03] <bnoog> LadyNikon, yes
[03:03] <bnoog> GNU_Style, um, bash, but there is a GNU environment for Windows, but I forgot its name
[03:04] <LadyNikon> when you boot up.. you dont have a menu?
[03:04] <void^> cygwin
[03:04] <gnomefreak> bnoog: log out of gnome than on login screen click sessions and choose kde
[03:04] <bnoog> LadyNikon, Well, a login manager, yeah, I can change it from that?
[03:04] <bnoog> gnomefreak, ok, thanks :)
[03:04] <LadyNikon> yeah
[03:04] <LadyNikon> you can select which one you want as default
[03:04] <bnoog> excellent
[03:04] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[03:04] <bnoog> this is all I needed :) thank you very much :)
[03:05] <avinoam> htinn, do i need the give the windows computer a gateway?
[03:05] <Seatux> i wonder if it's possible to damage a laptop just by running it through airport x ray machines?
[03:06] <htinn> avinoam, you just need to have a DHCP client on the client machine
[03:06] <avinoam> htinn, it's windows, it has
[03:06] <LocoLappy> it could wreck a wifi
[03:06] <LocoLappy> not sure about the entire laptop tho
[03:06] <avinoam> htinn, so why aren't they talking?
[03:07] <htinn> avinoam, you still need to set up the devices
[03:07] <htinn> iwconfig, ifconfig, etc.
[03:07] <htinn> make sure they're in ad-hoc mode
[03:07] <Diablo_> good morning
[03:07] <LocoLappy> what cp command copies a dir and its entire structure plus all perms
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> cp -a
[03:07] <void^> cp -a
[03:07] <Diablo_> somebody tell me please how i do to run a script on boot?
[03:07] <LocoLappy> tyty
[03:07] <avinoam> htinn, ok, how do i do that?
[03:08] <paulo> Hello. Does anybody knows how to install plugins to Totem? Documentation refers to a "install plugins" button, but I could not find it anywhere.
[03:08] <Mr-Falkor>  What can I do with a navtel box ?
[03:08] <htinn> avinoam, in Windows there should be a Control Panel or Add/Remove Network wizard for that
[03:08] <Diablo_> somebody tell me please how i do to run a script on boot?
[03:08] <alan|laptop> hi all
[03:09] <htinn> avinoam, in Linux you use the System/Admin/Networking tool
[03:09] <avinoam> htinn, you wanna tell me that the networking tool has an option for ad-hoc?
[03:09] <htinn> actually, avinoam you probably need to edit the /etc/networking/interfaces
[03:10] <htinn> err, /etc/network/interfaces
[03:10] <Diablo_> avinoam you know the command to run a script on boot?
[03:10] <Diablo_> i want to run a iptables script
[03:10] <htinn> and add a "iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc"
[03:11] <avinoam> htinn, if i wanna go outside and use an access point will i have to kill that line?
[03:11] <htinn> avinoam, i think so
[03:11] <Diablo_> htinn you know the command to run a script on boot?
[03:11] <laffer-pt> hi. why doesn't \\192.168.1.21 witch is the ip for my other machine doens't work in opera or firefox?
[03:11] <avinoam> htinn, ok i inserted that line
[03:12] <jenda> Anyone here using last.fm? How do I install it?
[03:13] <devzero> any help on getting ati x600 mobile working with ubuntu?
[03:13] <Dreamglider> good day
[03:13] <HaRDaWaY> devzero, i have x300 mobile, if it can help
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> last.fm is a program ?
[03:13] <devzero> hardaway: probably the same
[03:14] <devzero> got any hints?
[03:14] <avinoam> htinn, now what?
[03:14] <htinn> avinoam, restart the network (sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart)
[03:14] <Kuprin> Hey everybody - has anyone ever fiddled with the Minix FS before?
[03:15] <Kuprin> I have a question regarding one of many undocumented things XD
[03:15] <HaRDaWaY> devzero, no, no problem, i have run it with fglrx drivers and i have direct rendering
[03:15] <devzero> my X server crashes so i have to setup with terminal, how do i do that?
[03:15] <Azertyuuu> hey all, i can format a Floppy, but i can't access the data on it ?
[03:15] <Azertyuuu> please help me,
[03:16] <laffer-pt> hi. why doesn't \\192.168.1.21 witch is the ip for my other machine doens't work in opera or firefox?
[03:16] <avinoam> htinn, ok so now both laptops are set to ad-hoc
[03:16] <Dreamglider> i have a WLAN 11G usb Adapter, how can  get ubuntu to detect it when i insert it ?
[03:16] <HaRDaWaY> devzero, i do: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and then only change driver "ati" to driver "fglrx" on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:16] <HaRDaWaY> and its run nice
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> Dreamglider, have you inserted it to see ubuntu detects it or not ?
[03:17] <Dreamglider> wickedpuppy, when i insert it nothing happens, i dont think it's detedced
[03:17] <avinoam> htinn, i need to tell windows to look for my IP for dhcp settings, right?
[03:18] <Seveas> PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: watch out for the flood 
[03:18] <devzero> ill try that, thanx hardaway
[03:18] <paulo> Azertuuu - Have you mounted the floppy file system?
[03:18] <LocoLappy> what is the purpose of 'ubuntu-desltop' && 'ubuntu-standard' ?
[03:18] <htinn> avinoam, windows needs to scan for your essid
[03:19] <avinoam> htinn, hmm....
[03:19] <wickedpuppy> Dreamglider, try this ... uninsert it ... type dmesg ... insert it and dmesg again see if anything is detected
[03:19] <paulo> Hello. Does anybody knows how to install plugins to Totem? Documentation refers to a "install plugins" button, but I could not find it anywhere.
[03:20] <me0w> I can't seem to be able to play wmv/mpg files with totem (missing plugins) .. what should I install ?
[03:20] <avinoam> htinn, how do i set that on both sides?
[03:20] <htinn> avinoam, you just need to set the essid on your side, then scan for it on the other
[03:20] <Dreamglider> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[03:20] <avinoam> htinn, how?
[03:21] <paulo> me0w - I have the same problems as you.
[03:21] <avinoam> htinn, iwconfig something?
[03:21] <Dreamglider> ok its seen, but how can i see it in the network connetions ?
[03:21] <htinn> "iwconfig wlan0 essid somename"
[03:21] <Kuprin> o.O Sev
[03:21] <htinn> ban list was getting full O.o
[03:21] <Seveas> Done 
[03:21] <avinoam> htinn, ok got it through the UI
[03:21] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Seveas: you have a few more rooms to go
[03:22] <htinn> need a timer on those bans
[03:23] <deefzi> what is the MIME-type of torrent-files?
[03:24] <deefzi> all of sudden, opera starts opening them by default (with opera...) and not asking whether i want to save 'em or open
[03:24] <avinoam> htinn, i run that command and then run iwconfig and it still says essid: off/any
[03:24] <paulo> Hello. Does anybody know where can I get info to install plugins to Totem? Documentation refers to a "install plugins" button, but I could not find it anywhere.
[03:24] <htinn> avinoam, is the mode ad-hoc?
[03:25] <avinoam> htinn, actually no it says managed
[03:25] <htinn> make sure to nail down the mode again :P
[03:25] <avinoam> htinn, ok i did it through iwconfig
[03:25] <void^> you also need ifconfig dev up or it won't do squat
[03:25] <agabus> could someone please help me getting mp3 support on the latest dapper release?
[03:26] <avinoam> still says off
[03:26] <htinn> avinoam, you'll want to sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:26] <ardchoille> is there a command that I canuse to check a hard drive for problem or errors?
[03:27] <drummer87> hi, could someone help me with sound in flash/FF with dapper? it has lag when using the symlink trick, but I can't get it to work any other way :(
[03:27] <avinoam> void^, who were you talking to?
[03:27] <tristanmike> !dapper
[03:27] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[03:27] <void^> avinoam: a general notice to wlan users trying to setup adhoc mode :P
[03:27] <gnomefreak> agabus: please join me in #ubuntu+1
[03:28] <avinoam> htinn, i did that, still just blinking
[03:28] <htinn> ad-hoc does blink a LOT
[03:28] <avinoam> and still no essid
[03:28] <htinn> of course, it needs to
[03:28] <Seveas> @reload bantracker
[03:28] <paulo> ardchoile - Try fsck -h. That will show you the available options
[03:28] <ardchoille> paulo: thank you
[03:29] <kristi> l.net
[03:29] <avinoam> i mean the type of blinking that shows that no data is being transfered
[03:29] <paulo> youe welcome
[03:29] <htinn> avinoam, try sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:29] <Seveas> @reload bantracker
[03:29] <devzero> does anybody know how to setup rw access to NTFS filesystems in ubuntu
[03:29] <rambo3> writing to ntfs is not a good idea
[03:30] <k0rf> Anyone know how to solve the problem between Samba and Windows where the password prompt appears but i have guest ok = Yes and public = yes ???
[03:30] <Frogzoo> ok - anybody running ff1.5 install the Reveal extension - it's so good it should be compulsory :)
[03:30] <avinoam> htinn, no scan results
[03:30] <rambo3> i think you need some experimental modules for that , that could posibly destroy partition table on ntfs
[03:31] <avinoam> ooo i got something
[03:31] <devzero> ntfsmount is supposed to do it safe, just wondered if there was a ubuntu install guide
[03:31] <Frogzoo> devzero: it's not really supported but google for 'captive ntfs' or take a look at Paragon
[03:31] <htinn> avinoam, getting past this part is the tough part :P
[03:31] <avinoam> i see that they are connected now
[03:31] <htinn> oh, they are?
[03:32] <Frogzoo> devzero: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[03:32] <avinoam> yup
[03:32] <htinn> cool
[03:32] <LocoLappy> would ${base-dir} mean the dir I am currently working in?
[03:32] <avinoam> htinn, doesn't share though
[03:32] <htinn> avinoam, can the windows side ping you?
[03:33] <avinoam> htinn, i'm checking one sec
[03:33] <Frogzoo> devzero: ntfs r/w is extremely experimental & I wouldn't advise anyone trust their data to it
[03:33] <CrocoJet> good morning nice people !
[03:34] <CrocoJet> i have one question
[03:34] <CrocoJet> I have one english course (software) for windows 3.1 and win 98
[03:34] <Frogzoo> devzero: captive ntfs is different because it uses a real MS driver
[03:34] <devzero> frogzoo i dont have a choice if im going to continue using linux, unless you know of another filsystem that supports 10+gb files and can be writen to by both windows and linux
[03:34] <CrocoJet> is possible run ubuntu also ?
[03:35] <Frogzoo> devzero: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ or Paragon's similiar (commercial) product
[03:35] <paulo> Does anybody know how to install plugins to Totem? Documentation refers to a "install plugins" button, but I could not find it anywhere.
[03:35] <CrocoJet> run win 3.1, win 95 and win 98
[03:35] <Frogzoo> !tell devzero about winext
[03:35] <CrocoJet> e ai Paulo
[03:35] <CrocoJet> tudo bem ?
[03:35] <nto_> im trying to compile a app but firt i have to ./configure (says the README) but att i get in response is "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:35] <nto_> "
[03:35] <Frogzoo> !tell devzero about winext2
[03:36] <LocoLappy> would ${base-dir} mean the dir I am currently working in?
[03:36] <me0w> so .. a player for mpg ?
[03:36] <me0w> anyone ?
[03:36] <Frogzoo> me0w: gxine
[03:36] <CrocoJet> paulo, d uma olhada http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/get.html
[03:36] <paulo> Crocojet - Tudook.
[03:36] <ablyss> me0w, xfmedia
[03:36] <LocoLappy> mplayer for mpg   or   vlc
[03:37] <rambo3> echo ${base-dir} , would guess base dir is what you get when you type cd
[03:37] <paulo> Crocojet - Valeu!
[03:37] <Dreamglider> vlc, go for vlc.
[03:37] <CrocoJet> paulo, isso instala todos os codecs .. etc etc
[03:37] <gnomefreak> CrocoJet: and paulo please use english in this channel
[03:37] <ardchoille> CrocoJet: can you use English please so the rest of us can learn from the conversation?
[03:37] <CrocoJet> gnomefreak, ok Sir !
[03:37] <Frogzoo> Dreamglider: have you tried gxine? gxine vs vlc ?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:37] <CrocoJet> :)
[03:38] <rambo3> abla ongata?
[03:38] <CrocoJet> we are talking about codecs :)
[03:38] <Dreamglider> xine, and totem-xine
[03:38] <ardchoille> CrocoJet: no, we're talking about Ubuntu
[03:38] <Dreamglider> not gxine i belive
[03:38] <LocoLappy> rambo3 the reason I ask is that I have this sh script and it is supposed to dl a package to ${base-dir}${packagename-dir} but the url failed, I want to put the file into that place and then continue the script
[03:38] <CrocoJet> yes, you have reason
[03:38] <paulo> gnomefreak - I was about to advise it to crocojet, sorry.
[03:38] <Frogzoo> Dreamglider: gxine is a decided improvement, but I might give vlc a spin
[03:39] <CrocoJet> and about run one program for win 95 / win 98 ... in ubuntu, is possible ?
[03:39] <fmasi> enny one know a good dns howto ? i nead to put a master and a slave dns server up as soon as humanly possible
[03:39] <CrocoJet> does anyone knows ?
[03:40] <CrocoJet> it is software engoish course multimedia
[03:40] <CrocoJet> ops .. english
[03:40] <ablyss> CrocoJet, considering i'm running mirc on ubuntu now.. i would think so
[03:40] <CrocoJet> wow
[03:40] <graveson> i am looking for good backup solution for my ubunu.y ubuntu desktop is starting to become critical
[03:40] <gnomefreak> CrocoJet: you can try wine see if it will run that program
[03:40] <rambo3> CrocoJet: /j #winehq and search wine application database
[03:40] <LocoLappy> fmasi: if you dont want to get your hands dirty with bind, then I suggest using webmin as it makes dns managing quite easy
[03:40] <gnomefreak> !backup
[03:40] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[03:40] <CrocoJet> ablyss, how to do that?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> ^^^ graveson
[03:40] <paulo> Crocojet - I was using Kurumin 2.2 with wine and it was working fine. On Ubuntu I did not install it yet.
[03:41] <CrocoJet> cool
[03:41] <CrocoJet> let me look ... wine
[03:41] <gnomefreak> !wine
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell CrocoJet about wine
[03:41] <graveson> !backup
[03:41] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[03:41] <CrocoJet> thanks
[03:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:42] <LocoLappy> rambo3: so if I were running the sh script in '/opt' then ${base-dir}${packagename-dir} would be here -->  /packagename-dir/   ... is this right?
[03:42] <ablyss> anyone think timed backups a bad idea besides me?
[03:42] <rambo3> !steam
[03:42] <ubotu> from memory, steam is at http://www.steampowered,com
[03:42] <fmasi> LocoLappy i dont know if i want to install webmin this is a server whith texmode only
[03:42] <LocoLappy> fmasi: you dont need a gui to run webmin, you can access your webmin from any PC with internet and gui
[03:43] <fmasi> LocoLappy And dont know if i should put more then what oi nead is webmin whorth it ?
[03:43] <Frogzoo> actually there's a few different packages for doing backups that are probably better than tar
[03:43] <LocoLappy> fmasi: I use webmin for a good amount of things, it administers alot of stuff
[03:43] <fmasi> LocoLappy I know but what i mean is iis it safe webmin  i just what to have a saft webmin
[03:43] <ablyss> i enjoy just using zip as my primary backup solution
[03:43] <fmasi> LocoLappy can i create all the entrys in bind9 whith it ?
[03:44] <LocoLappy> fmasi: yes
[03:44] <fmasi> LocoLappy enny whay i may try it do you have a god howto on it or on bind9
[03:44] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: graveson backuppc looks promising, but haven't got around to setting it up yet
[03:44] <kbrooks> whoo. i just signed the ubuntu COC. :)
[03:44] <gnomefreak> congrats kbrooks
[03:44] <LocoLappy> fmasi: I suggest going to the webmin site, they got alot of good info there
[03:45] <graveson> frogzoo:arkeia looks very good as well.
[03:45] <fmasi> LocoLappy ok i will take a try
[03:45] <ania> hi :). Since hotplug is absent in dapper, how can I execute a command on a usb device insertion event?
[03:45] <fmasi> but enny one have eny howto on bind9 ?
[03:45] <fmasi> more info is alweis good
[03:45] <Frogzoo> graveson: I might add something to the bot to that effect
[03:45] <LocoLappy> bind site has a great howto
[03:45] <gnomefreak> i will look at it
[03:46] <ania> I'd like ADSL connection to be started automatically after modem insrtion
[03:46] <k0rf> Anyone know how to add a public share when security = user in samba? I want to access the folder from Win XP!
[03:46] <test-77-82> hi
[03:46] <htinn> ania, the hotplug in Dapper is all in the kernel
[03:47] <ania> htinn, so how can I execute /etc/init.d/foo start on my modem insertion?
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak: apt-get install apache :)
[03:47] <bigGrim> where are all teh header files like stdlib.h?
[03:47] <htinn> ania, i have no idea :P
[03:48] <ann> #ubuntu-es
[03:48] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: installing it isnt the issue its configuring it and what and how to use it (i know its a server app)
[03:48] <Seveas> !tell bigGrim about compiling
[03:48] <htinn> ania, you might want to check out network-manager
[03:48] <jramsey> after a fresh install, what's the root password?  i've tried nothing, root and ubuntu and no luck
[03:48] <ania> htinn, I tried placing it in modprobe.d, but it seems that udev uses insmod or modprobe without scanning modprobe.d, because this won't work: install eagle-usb /sbin/modprobe ppp-async; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install eagle-usb ; /etc/init.d/eagle-usb start
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak: what's the issue?
[03:48] <Xenguy> !tell jramsey about root
[03:49] <test-77-82> someone tried kguitar? (with ubuntu gnome) i cant't see numbers in the tabulatur and in the score only symbols... someone know how to fix it?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> once installed what do i do with it lol
[03:49] <graveson> frogzoo:i could be mistaken but as far as i know arkeia provides is the only enterprise backup solution that supports bare metal restore .
[03:49] <jramsey> any takers on the root password??
[03:49] <avinoam> htinn, i crashed :(
[03:49] <folki> how can I add new path to system variable $PATH at the beginning?
[03:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell jramsey about root
[03:50] <Xenguy> jramsey: see the /msg from ubotu
[03:50] <gnomefreak> jramsey: your user password and its sudo not su
[03:50] <htinn> avinoam, wow that sucks
[03:50] <avinoam> htinn, no pinging
[03:50] <avinoam> htinn, now i'm connected with no ping
[03:50] <jramsey> you mean the same password i set up as my initial user is the same as the root password?
[03:50] <htinn> avinoam, maybe your driver doesn't support ad-hoc properly
[03:50] <Xenguy> jramsey: also you may find 'sudo -i' useful
[03:50] <gnomefreak> jramsey: yes but use sudo not su
[03:51] <avinoam> htinn, i don't think that's it
[03:51] <avinoam> htinn, i bet i could get it to work if i had the windows laptop serving
[03:51] <avinoam> but i don't want that
[03:51] <jramsey> ok; one more dumb questions about usage of irc; how do i get the user name in front of my response/question??
[03:51] <_jason> jramsey: it's not the root password, but your user has sudo access.  The root password is locked
[03:51] <gnomefreak> jramsey: if you look closley nothing in ubuntu standard install asks for root password
[03:51] <_jason> jramsey: type the beginning of someones name and press <tab>
[03:51] <folki> can anybody help me please...i need t oadd new path to $PATH at the beginning...how can I do that?
[03:51] <htinn> avinoam, windows serving is just asking for problems :P
[03:51] <jramsey> _jason, it's magic
[03:51] <_jason> jramsey: :)
[03:52] <gnomefreak> jramsey: type /me for your own name
[03:52] <shukhrat> i want to create png image with php and gd library but it dislay only chart and text is invisible
[03:52] <jramsey> _jason, btw you helped me a bunch on minicom and i got it working with this ARM embedded adapter
[03:52] <jramsey> the null modem cable was bad
[03:52] <Frogzoo> folki: add to $PATH in ~/.gnomerc
[03:52] <shukhrat> and php info doesn't show gd library
[03:52] <_jason> jramsey: I think you might be thinking of someone else, I don't remember that at all
[03:52] <shukhrat> please help
[03:53] <jramsey> maybe ... all i know is i remember ur name when i was frustrated with a silly serial setup
[03:53] <shukhrat> healot:
[03:53] <gnomefreak> i remember someone the other day with a minicom issue but cant remember who helped the person (i wasnt me)
[03:53] <gnomefreak> it*
[03:53] <avinoam> htinn, yeah and this linux serving is working beautifully
[03:53] <jramsey> yeah and, amazing, minicom is easier to use than hyperterminal
[03:53] <DigitalLF> hello im trying to compile my new kernel 2.6.16 but i have a little problem what arch should i select i have a Intel Duo Core (SMP)
[03:54] <Frogzoo> jramsey: kermit :)
[03:54] <shukhrat> gnomefreak: have u ever worked with php and gd library?
[03:54] <htinn> avinoam, ad-hoc is a pain to set up
[03:54] <_jason> jramsey: do you mind telling me what 'sudo head -1 /etc/shadow' says?  I just want to see if the root password really is locked or if it is empty on a default install
[03:54] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: nope not i
[03:54] <DigitalLF> Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/Xeon  ?
[03:54] <jramsey> _jason, brb
[03:54] <gnomefreak> DigitalLF: smp
[03:54] <gnomefreak> DigitalLF: warning people have had issues with that kernel
[03:55] <Frogzoo> _jason: root:*:13114:0:99999:7:::
[03:55] <LocoLappy> so if I were running the sh script in '/opt' then ${base-dir}${packagename-dir} would be here -->  /packagename-dir/   ... is this right?
[03:55] <_jason> Frogzoo: ok thanks, so it's empty
[03:55] <DigitalLF> gnomefreak, okey i will still give it a try so i will keep my old one
[03:55] <Frogzoo> _jason: empty as
[03:55] <avinoam> htinn, what was the scan command?
[03:55] <htinn> avinoam, iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:55] <folki> there is no file .gnomerc
[03:56] <DigitalLF> htinn for me its easy to to setup my Ad-Hoc just needed to set my ESSID and then iwconfig eth1 mode Ad-Hoc and it was all done
[03:56] <jramsey> _jason, root:*:13235:0:99999:7:::
[03:56] <_jason> folki: you can create it
[03:56] <_jason> jramsey: thanks
[03:56] <jramsey> what exactly does that mean?
[03:56] <AstralJava> folki: Then you can do 'export PATH=<new dir>:$PATH'
[03:56] <htinn> DigitalLF, it would be easy for me too (in person)
[03:56] <Frogzoo> folki: well that's the one you want, so create it
[03:56] <avinoam> htinn, the IP on my linux laptop should be my eth0 ip right?
[03:56] <DigitalLF> htinn, ahh okey :)
[03:57] <DigitalLF> gnomefreak, you wrote SMP but where do i select SMP?
[03:57] <htinn> avinoam, your IP is your inet addr (which you can find in ifconfig)
[03:57] <Frogzoo> h0nuS: you realise you address shows when you join/leave, yes?
[03:58] <void^> avinoam: it should be on a different net or routing may get complicated
[03:58] <Frogzoo> lol
[03:58] <DigitalLF> gnomefreak, in arch menu (make oldconfig; make menuconfig) "Pentium-Pro" is selected should i keep it that way with my Intel Duo Core?
[03:58] <avinoam> htinn, void^ it is
[03:58] <obli> !mouse
[03:58] <ubotu> [mouse]  Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[03:58] <DigitalLF> gnomefreak, and just add "[*]  Symmetric multi-processing support"
[03:59] <avinoam> htinn, but still no pinging
[03:59] <htinn> avinoam, what does the status in Firestarter say?
[03:59] <avinoam> htinn, it's weird, it says that wlan0 is not ready
[04:00] <void^> avinoam: perhaps pastebin output of ifconfig -a, iwconfig and route -n
[04:00] <htinn> that would explain the ping problem
[04:00] <Rogerio> I have a problem for install java in Ubuntu
[04:00] <Rogerio> I set the variables in profile or bashrc or bash.bashrc but doesnt works
[04:00] <Rogerio> why the problem ?!
[04:01] <avinoam> htinn, ok so what now?
[04:01] <rambo3> DigitalLF: yes, but there are already smp kernels in repos. and i have the same processor only that it doesnt work well with wifi drivers
[04:01] <folki> and how can I delete some entry form $PATH?
[04:01] <AstralJava> Rogerio: I got classpath and other variables working when I set them in ~/.bashrc
[04:01] <htinn> avinoam, maybe a pastebin of your iwconfig etc.
[04:01] <avinoam> yeah i'll do that right now
[04:01] <_jason> Rogerio: maybe it would help if you put what you did on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and gave us a link
[04:02] <Rogerio> AstralJava: ok Im try now, thank you
[04:02] <AstralJava> folki: There must be better ways, but I just type echo $PATH, then type 'export PATH=____' and cut&paste what I want as new PATH.
[04:02] <DigitalLF> rambo3 what wifi card do you got? i have Intel 3945
[04:03] <DigitalLF> rambo3, i need the 2.6.16 to get hardware rendering and subwoofer to work as far as i know
[04:03] <AstralJava> folki: Sorry that was a poor explanation, new PATH value goes to that underline part. So I cut&paste the values I want after the equal sign.
[04:03] <_jason> AstralJava: you can do something like export PATH=foo:bar:$PATH
[04:04] <avinoam> htinn, void^ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11311
[04:04] <AstralJava> _jason: Yeah, I know, but if I want something removed from current $PATH.
[04:04] <DigitalLF> rambo3, btw what do you mean by "repos"
[04:04] <jramsey> anyone have any experience with TIPC??
[04:04] <avinoam> avinoam
[04:04] <avinoam> lol
[04:04] <Frogzoo> DigitalLF: are there libc or other dependencies? I'm considering upgrading my kernel, wondering if moving to 2.6.16 will break anything ?
[04:04] <_jason> AstralJava: ah, then I guess you do something like ${PATH//:foo}, but would have to experiment...
[04:04] <folki> ok but I still don` t understand what is .gnomerc file for?
[04:05] <void^> avinoam: eh, your wlan0 doesn't have an ip.
[04:05] <avinoam> void^, where should it get one from?
[04:05] <avinoam> void^, i'll input one
[04:05] <void^> avinoam: something like ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.1 up
[04:05] <avinoam> ok now it does
[04:05] <rambo3> DigitalLF: its just diferent kernel config file. i have ralink wifi card rt61 driver
[04:05] <AstralJava> _jason: If you find out a better way, please inform me. I don't really like that cut&pasting. :)
[04:06] <Unworthy> Hi everyone, I have a stupid question
[04:06] <avinoam> void^, still unreachable
[04:06] <void^> avinoam: now your windows box needs a similar ip, or use firestarter to run a dhcp server on wlan0
[04:06] <Frogzoo> Unworthy: ok, we can give you a stupid answer :)
[04:06] <DigitalLF> Frogzoo, i dont get what your saying... i guess im to much of a rookie
[04:06] <avinoam> void^, it's running a dhcp server
[04:06] <kurei> hi, i just installed java 1.5 but my os still uses the default jre... how do i point my os to use my recently installed java5?
[04:06] <rambo3> !repos
[04:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:06] <Unworthy> How do I start ubuntu in super user mode? I've even set my account (the only one) to be in the ROOT user group :S
[04:07] <veracon_> Any idea why Epiphany doesn't feel like starting? :/
[04:07] <void^> avinoam: really? netstat -l -n -p | grep dhcp
[04:07] <DigitalLF> rambo3, so if i just enable SMP in fine?
[04:07] <Frogzoo> DigitalLF: the kernel doesn't exist in isolation - when you change it, it can impact other parts of the system (deleteriously)
[04:07] <ilias> hello
[04:07] <avinoam> void^, ok so then firestarter is messed up then
[04:07] <_jason> AstralJava: experiment with echo ${PATH/:\/usr\/local:/:} to make sure it works
[04:07] <htinn> avinoam, it must be the windows side
[04:07] <void^> avinoam: you'll have to restart it at least, or possibly configure it
[04:07] <htinn> that's all i can think
[04:08] <DigitalLF> Frogzoo, so i might break the system even if i change back if it dont work out?
[04:08] <kurei> Unworthy, you can use sudo passwd... type it in the terminal
[04:08] <_jason> AstralJava: erm I guess we should experiment with something actually in the PATH :) echo ${PATH/:\/usr\/local\/bin:/:}
[04:08] <Unworthy> ooh do i need a command before that, or just type the pw?
[04:08] <Frogzoo> DigitalLF: no, you just reboot a different kernel & you 'should' be good to go again
[04:08] <rambo3> DigitalLF:  2.6.16 to get hardware rendering and subwoofer to work as far as i know . <- i dont think so, smp has got nothing to do with this. you need restricted modules and alsamixer
[04:08] <DigitalLF> Frogzoo, or isent it possible in the time being to upgrade to 2.6.16?
[04:08] <AstralJava> _jason: :) Okay I'll fiddle with it for a while.
[04:09] <lowroad> Does anyone know how I can turn off the region code stuff for dvds so I can watch dvds from all regions?
[04:09] <avinoam> void^, i get some unkown error when i try restarting it
[04:09] <DigitalLF> rambo3, i know that smp is only for my 2core cpu
[04:09] <Frogzoo> DigitalLF: that was my question to you lol - I don't know if it will break anything
[04:09] <_jason> AstralJava: syntax is ${variable/pattern/string} to replace pattern with string, but it get's annoying because you ahve to escape /'s
[04:09] <htinn> ...
[04:09] <ilias> I'm trying to password protect a folder.. what I did is changed all the permissions to owner only and then set the owner to root. Is there a way for me now to access the directory (through gnome) with a user with sudo permissions?
[04:09] <Unworthy> @ lowroad: use dvd-x-player, I 'm not sure if there is an linux version though
[04:09] <kurei> simply type "sudo passwd" (enter) then key-in yur current user password... then set yur new root password @ Unworthy
[04:09] <DigitalLF> Frogzoo, LOL okey dident get that
[04:09] <rambo3> DigitalLF: i dont see any 2.6.16 in dapper reposotories.
[04:09] <void^> avinoam: does `which dhcpd` work?
[04:09] <lowroad> Unworthy, I'm looking for a solution for ubuntu
[04:10] <avinoam> void^, comes back empty
[04:10] <Frogzoo> rambo3: you running 2.6.16 on breezy or dapper?
[04:10] <avinoam> lemme try apt-get
[04:10] <kurei> hi, i just installed java 1.5 but my os still uses the default jre... how do i point my os to use my recently installed java5?
[04:10] <Dreamglider> i'd like to ger a wlan usb adapter to work in ubuntu, need some help-
[04:10] <DigitalLF> rambo3, no but wont vanilla work?
[04:10] <rambo3> i am running 2.6.15-19-386on dapper
[04:10] <_jason> AstralJava: and I just realized that wouldn't work if it is at the beginning or end, but you can take care of that too.  At least it's a place to start
[04:10] <Frogzoo> rambo3: thx
[04:11] <gnomefreak> kurei: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:11] <gnomefreak> kurei: and shoose the one you want ubuntu to use
[04:11] <DigitalLF> rambo3, Linux TheBox 2.6.15-19-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 20 17:33:20 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:11] <gnomefreak> s/shoose/choose
[04:11] <kurei> gnomefreak: tnx
[04:11] <gnomefreak> kurei: yw
[04:12] <DigitalLF> gnomefreak, i wrote a few lines a short time back to you scroll upp a little bit
[04:12] <rick324132> Hey, does anyone know how to remove a file beginning with a hyphen(-) from the terminal?
[04:12] <rambo3> rm /-~
[04:13] <lowroad> Anyone know how to make it so I can play any region dvd?
[04:13] <avinoam> void^, htinn dhcpd failed to startttttttttttttttttt
[04:13] <nickrud> rick324132, rm -- -file
[04:13] <gnomefreak> DigitalLF: the question was answered by rambo3
[04:13] <gnomefreak> so i left it alone
[04:13] <DigitalLF> gnomefreak, okey
[04:13] <Matic`Makovec> !tell lowroad  about w32codecs
[04:13] <htinn> avinoam, you're using firestarter right?
[04:13] <rick324132> rambo3: If the file is called -home-rick.tar.gz, would i do rm /-home-rick.tar.gz ?
[04:13] <avinoam> htinn, yeah
[04:13] <DigitalLF> gnomefreak, =)
[04:13] <htinn> so of course dhcpd will fail
[04:13] <void^> rick324132: rm -- -fileblah
[04:13] <arrick> morning all
[04:14] <arrick> somebody pass me a cough drop will yah?
[04:14] <rick324132> void^: thanks
[04:14] <DigitalLF> rambo3, do you know what arch i should select with Intel Duo Core?
[04:14] <avinoam> htinn, it was off at the time
[04:15] <rambo3> you just answerd your self DigitalLF a couple of lines before
[04:15] <arrick> DigitalLF, should be the arch on the right foot
[04:15] <htinn> avinoam, firestarter doesn't need to be "on" to block dhcpd
[04:15] <avinoam> htinn, i see
[04:15] <Frogzoo> rick324132: rm -- -home-rick.tar.gz
[04:15] <DigitalLF> rambo3, i did?
[04:15] <void^> avinoam: get into firestarter's config and set internal/external interfaces correctly and activate dhcpd configuration.. perhaps it'll work then
[04:15] <nick|here> i'm using latest kernel package in the repositiries and using athlon xp 1700+. i am going to install vanilla kernel , do i have to do something spesific?(for k7 )
[04:16] <rambo3> linux-image-2.6.15-19-686
[04:16] <rambo3> on dapper
[04:16] <avinoam> void^, i did that ages ago
[04:16] <rambo3> on breezy its still smp i think , the new ones dont seam to have smp extention
[04:16] <void^> avinoam: yes, probably before you even configured your interfaces correctly
[04:16] <avinoam> void^, i've tried again and again
[04:17] <DigitalLF> rambo3, i guess im using the wrong word (sry for my english) but i meant cpu family
[04:17] <Unworthy> I'm 100% new to ubunut, and I'm running trying to run a program as super user, but It still isn't working
[04:17] <Frogzoo> Unworthy: sudo program
[04:17] <lowroad> Matic`Makovec, i've installed w32codecs before, i want to play a different regions dvd though
[04:17] <Unworthy> o lol.. *tries*
[04:17] <CrocoJet> how can I mount one file  ".iso" ?
[04:18] <ilias> anyone have any other ideas are a solution to my question? I'm trying to password protect a folder.. what I did is changed all the permissions to owner only and then set the owner to root. Is there a way for me now to access the directory (through gnome) with a user with sudo permissions?
[04:18] <CrocoJet> it is vfat iso, I think
[04:18] <shukhrat> problem with php please help, my php cannot regonize ttf
[04:18] <Unworthy> omg thanks :D
[04:18] <Frogzoo> CrocoJet: 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loopback blah.iso /mnt'
[04:18] <CrocoJet> Frogzoo, thanks :)
[04:18] <Frogzoo> yw
[04:18] <DigitalLF> rambo3, should i select "Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/Xeon" or should i stay with "Pentium-Pro" and that selection is made by make oldconfig
[04:18] <AstralJava> _jason: yes you were right, it needed backticks so it was runnable as one clause. haven't fixed the beginning or the end thing yet.
[04:19] <rick324132> Does anyone know how I would exclude an entire directory from tar?
[04:19] <nick|here>  i'm using latest kernel package in the repositiries(2.6.12-10-k7)  i'm going to install vanilla kernel, do i have to something spesific(for k7)??
[04:19] <avinoam> htinn, void^ problem with gateway perhaps?
[04:19] <rick324132> (this isn't correct, but something like tar -f blah.tar --exclude=cows/)
[04:19] <htinn> avinoam, you're using DHCP :)
[04:20] <_jason> AstralJava: I decided on: echo :$PATH: | sed 's!:/usr/local/bin:!:!' | sed -r 's/(^:)|(:$)//g', probably an easier way...
[04:20] <deefzi> hmm, can't i rename a directory in nautilus which has files in it?
[04:20] <dlh> hi guys
[04:20] <rambo3> DigitalLF the one that has smp in its description
[04:20] <_jason> deefzi: yes as long as you hav epermission
[04:20] <rambo3> and go with 686
[04:20] <avinoam> htinn, good call
[04:20] <DigitalLF> rambo3, okey i will check..
[04:20] <void^> avinoam: if your dhcp server doesn't even start it's a config issue. did you enter a dhcp ip range in the firestarter options?
[04:20] <deefzi> _jason, oh. renaming is made through properties. just took a look at the menu :p
[04:21] <jikanter> I am trying to get my linksys WPC11 V.4 wireless lan card to work on ubuntu breezy badger, and I can get the driver installed no problem but no hardware is found.  I was able to configure using SUSE and kwifimanager.  Also I am dual-booted with windows and the card works there.
[04:21] <rick324132> Does anyone know how I would exclude an entire directory from tar? (this isn't correct, but something like tar -f blah.tar --exclude=cows/)
[04:21] <_jason> deefzi: you should be able to right click and press rename too
[04:21] <avinoam> void^, it comes with default
[04:21] <Unworthy> what is the path to the make program in ubuntu?  *trying to install vmware tools*
[04:21] <dlh> i'm having some problems with my ubuntu (5.10) - when i try to run some application as root it says that the password isn't right, but when i su - from a terminal it's ok
[04:21] <deefzi> _jason, nope. the right-click -> rename is only for files
[04:21] <_jason> dlh: did you do an expert install?
[04:21] <dlh> any ideas? or logs to look at?
[04:22] <kbrooks> dlh: user password
[04:22] <dlh> _jason, yes
[04:22] <_jason> dlh: does 'sudo echo hi' return hi?
[04:22] <deefzi> _jason, on wait. wrong window. no logic here :P
[04:22] <void^> avinoam: well, what does dhcpd complain about if you run it manually?
[04:22] <dlh> _jason, nope
[04:22] <dlh> it says wrong password again
[04:22] <DigitalLF> rambo3, CONFIG_SMP=y but other then that i cant find any 686 just cpu names...
[04:23] <avinoam> right now i got a no subnet declaration for wlan0
[04:23] <_jason> dlh: paste the output of 'groups'
[04:23] <Kyral> DigitalLF: You won't
[04:23] <dlh>  root@khtulu:/var/log# groups
[04:23] <dlh> root
[04:23] <Kyral> the kernel will be compiled for i686 if its compiled on a i686 machine :P
[04:24] <Kyral> specifically your CPU :P
[04:24] <_jason> dlh: no, for your user.  You use sudo as your user
[04:24] <DigitalLF> Kyral, okey that MIGHT be why i cant find 686 anywhere in the desc :D
[04:24] <avinoam> void^,
[04:25] <aaA^> hi everyone, wiki tells me to install java by typing sudo apt-get install j2re1.4... but it says it isnt available...? in fact multiverse packages dont seem to work for me can anyone help me out?
[04:25] <jikanter> How do you enable a pci driver that the kernel does not detect?
[04:25] <Kyral> It all has to do with low level assembler crap
[04:25] <lord_epsylon> hi!
[04:25] <dlh> _jason, yeah, stupid me
[04:25] <dlh> strahil@khtulu:~$ groups
[04:25] <dlh> strahil adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[04:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell dlh about expert
[04:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell dlh about sudo
[04:25] <DigitalLF> Kyral, but still the problem remains i cant find what i should select in the cpu familiy menu.. i got intel duo core
[04:25] <Kyral> the Athlon XP and P4 languages are slightly different (but nonetheless compatible)
[04:25] <_jason> dlh: the first should fix your problem, the second is for your reading pleasure :)
[04:25] <kbrooks> ubotu, tell me about expert
[04:25] <Kyral> DigitalLF: x86 with SMP?
[04:25] <kbrooks> ubotu, tell me about sudo
[04:25] <void^> avinoam: well, i'm not really familiar with firestarter, i'd just fix /etc/dhcpd.conf manually =)
[04:26] <DigitalLF> Kyral, might just be my n00bish but i dont know
[04:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell kbrooks about msg the bot
[04:26] <rambo3> DigitalLF: i didn t know you where compling you kernel , i thougt you where searching repos
[04:26] <avinoam> void^, what do i give it?
[04:26] <Kyral> !kernel
[04:26] <DigitalLF> rambo3, okey
[04:26] <dlh> _jason, thanks!:)
[04:26] <void^> avinoam: probably missing option subnet-mask
[04:26] <dlh> _jason, if we ever met you got a beer ;)
[04:26] <dlh> meet*
[04:27] <_jason> dlh: haha ok, I'll remember the name
[04:27] <avinoam> void^, which number should i give it?
[04:27] <unity> hello does anyone know how to make mozilla-firebird only send plaintext mail and not html mail? i have to change from html format to plaintext format in every composition, and even when i change it to plaintext, i can still insert html-formatted text
[04:27] <avinoam> void^, oh it has it
[04:27] <dlh> :D
[04:27] <DigitalLF> Kyral, in Processor family in menuconfig on 2.6.16 i don't know what i should select to get best preformence
[04:27] <avinoam> void^, should i change the number to that of wlan0?
[04:28] <jramsey> is there a way to have the file browser come up automatically when ubuntu starts?
[04:28] <Kyral> DigitalLF: oy...make it go, then make it go fast :P
[04:28] <avinoam> ption subnet-mask 255.255.255.224;
[04:28] <Cicero_> hi all
[04:28] <rick324132> jramsey: Yes
[04:28] <jramsey> :)
[04:28] <radek_> #strzelce
[04:28] <jramsey> ok ... how?
[04:28] <Kyral> DigitalLF: the MenuConfig helps are actually very useful
[04:28] <DigitalLF> Kyral, sure that is allways a first step :) but to get the right arch is allways also a good start
[04:28] <DigitalLF> Kyral, yes i read them all
[04:28] <rick324132> jramsey: Open any windows you want to automatically open, then go to System>Logout, and check Save Session (or whatever it is)
[04:28] <Kyral> DigitalLF: what CPU do you have?
[04:28] <void^> avinoam: perhaps better to just pastebin the file so we can take a look at it :)
[04:28] <DigitalLF> Kyral, Intel Duo Core
[04:29] <Kyral> DigitalLF: series name
[04:29] <rick324132> jramsey: Then log back in and it should automatically come up
[04:29] <jramsey> ok txs rick324132
[04:29] <avinoam> void^, how do i select all in terminal?
[04:29] <DigitalLF> Kyral, where do i find that?
[04:29] <knoppix> He is that abnormal D building
[04:29] <rick324132> jramsey: You only need to to it once though :P
[04:29] <Kyral> DigitalLF: ie, Pentium 4 or Celeron D
[04:29] <jramsey> ya gotta love ubuntu
[04:29] <jikanter> Trying to get wlan activated, how do you get linux to recognize the wlan card?
[04:29] <DigitalLF> Kyral, still the awser to that i guess is "Intel Duo Core"
[04:29] <Kyral> !wireless
[04:29] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[04:29] <jikanter> thanks
[04:29] <void^> avinoam: err, with your mouse?
[04:29] <rick324132> jikanter: What's the card model?
[04:30] <jikanter> Linksys WPC11 V.4
[04:30] <aaA^> hi everyone, wiki tells me to install java by typing sudo apt-get install j2re1.4... but it says it isnt available...? in fact multiverse packages dont seem to work for me can anyone help me out?
[04:30] <Kyral> DigitalLF: ....is this a prebuilt...?
[04:30] <luis_> Hello! I need to know how to update my OpenOffice to the latest version, since the one included in Breezy is old already.
[04:30] <avinoam> void^, it doesn't scroll like that
[04:30] <jikanter> Prism2 chipset
[04:30] <graveson> is anyone using gdeskets. i would really love to show off ubuntu to my friends and i find this gdesklets quite cool
[04:30] <Frogzoo> !tell aaA^ about repos
[04:30] <rick324132> jikanter: Does Linksys provide a linux driver?
[04:30] <Kyral> DigitalLF: do a cat /proc/cpuinfo and it should tell you the series
[04:30] <nickrud> aaA^, could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on nlpate
[04:31] <Frogzoo> graveson: gsdesklets look cool, soak lots of memory, and can be buggy
[04:31] <nickrud> aaA^, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:31] <knoppix> Goa caffee
[04:31] <avinoam> void^, how much of the file do you need?
[04:31] <void^> avinoam: hm, a decent terminal should. you could just use gedit to copy it
[04:31] <jramsey> ok rick324132  that worked; all i need is for irc to come up automatically and connect to the ubuntu channel
[04:31] <falls> hello, where can I find xserver-xgl.deb for ubuntu ?
[04:32] <nickrud> !tell falls about xgl
[04:32] <aaA^> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11312
[04:32] <aaA^> ive already enabled all the repositories
[04:32] <luis_> Hello! I need to know how to update my OpenOffice to the latest version, since the one included in Breezy is old already.
[04:32] <knoppix> Mach 3 and dont burn your skin off your face?
[04:32] <rick324132> jramsey: I'm not sure about autoconnecting, but if you want anything to automatically open, just open it, Logout+Save Session, then it'll autostart upon login
[04:32] <Frogzoo> !tell luis_ about ooo2
[04:32] <avinoam> void^, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11313
[04:32] <lowroad> Does anyone know how to play DVDs from ALL regions?
[04:32] <graveson> frogzoo:that has been my experience as well- any alternatives
[04:32] <jramsey> ok rick324132  txs
[04:32] <lowroad> Does anyone know how to play DVDs from ALL regions?
[04:33] <luis_> Frogzoo, thanks
[04:33] <rick324132> haha, lowroad: I can't even play DVDs at all :P
[04:33] <nickrud> aaA^, hm, I don't seem to be getting that pastebin, in my browser; try putting it on http://pastebin.com
[04:33] <void^> avinoam: well, doesn't look like firestarter has even touched it
[04:33] <Frogzoo> lowroad: typically people flash their DVD's bios - but it's a risk to do that
[04:33] <knoppix> ICE SpeedTrain
[04:33] <avinoam> void^, so it would appear
[04:34] <avinoam> void^, should i reinstall firestarter perhaps?
[04:34] <DigitalLF> Kyral, model name: Genuine Intel(R) CPU  T2300  @ 1.66GHz
[04:34] <Trekkie101> Is there a way to login automatically at boot up without needing user input?
[04:34] <lowroad> Frogzoo, any non risky ways of doing it?  some program or codec?
[04:34] <Kyral> DigitalLF: Prolly just a Pentium
[04:34] <luis_> Frogzoo, in that site the version is 2.0.1, but the latest is 2.0.2 isnt it?
[04:34] <Kyral> I have to go...
[04:34] <aaA^> nickrud http://pastebin.com/635862
[04:34] <Frogzoo> lowroad: the protection is built into the hardware, so no
[04:34] <void^> avinoam: hm, let's just try this quickly: stop firestarter, move the dhcpd.conf elsewhere, start firestarter, get it to write a new dhcp config :)
[04:34] <lowroad> Frogzoo in windows i used this program that made all my media players able to play any region
[04:34] <DigitalLF> Kyral, okey will give it a try
[04:35] <avinoam> void^, i wanna try reinstalling real quick
[04:35] <rick324132> jikanter: Are you fairly familiar with Linux (and the terminal)?
[04:35] <BlueHeron> Trekkie101: system>administration>login screen setup and on the first page their is a option to log a user in automatically
[04:35] <Frogzoo> lowroad: umm.. yeh, it might be possible, dunno how
[04:35] <avinoam> void^, funny that it didn't list dhcpd as a dependency
[04:35] <jikanter> somewhat
[04:35] <void^> avinoam: you can try, but it probably won't even touch firestarter's config files
[04:35] <void^> avinoam: it's optional, you don't need a dhcp server for desktop use
[04:35] <avinoam> void^, almost done
[04:36] <rick324132> jikanter: Have you tried NdisWrapper yet?
[04:36] <avinoam> void^, invoke-rc.d: initscript firestarter, action "start" failed.
[04:36] <nickrud> aaA^, lines 20 & 21, add multiverse there
[04:36] <festini> can anyone recommend a good gui temp/fan speed tool for ubuntu 5.10?
[04:36] <jikanter> yeah, I am working on it right now, and I have ndisgtk up and running, the driver is installed but it cant find the card
[04:36] <htinn> then again, i always shared out to static IPs :P
[04:36] <jramsey> what's the pkg name that installed open office??
[04:36] <jramsey> i looked thru /etc/apt/sources.list and don't see it
[04:36] <Trekkie101> BlueHeron: im using xfce (xubuntu) and currently need to login before "startx"ing what would be the best way to start the gui then auto login?
[04:37] <lowroad> Does anyone know how to play DVDs from ALL regions?
[04:37] <lowroad> Does anyone know how to play DVDs from ALL regions?
[04:37] <BlueHeron> Trekkie101: sorry i don't know.
[04:37] <jikanter> It says "Hardware present:no"
[04:38] <luis_> lowroad, I don't think that is possible, you gotta change the region according to what you play
[04:38] <htinn> lowroad, i can only play US and/or HK knock-offs ;)
[04:38] <rick324132> jikanter: Just a min
[04:38] <nickrud> Trekkie101, you could install gdm (a graphical login manager) and run gdmsetup (that gets you to BlueHeron's suggestion)
[04:38] <Frogzoo> lowroad: apparently most linux players can do this: "In reality, most Linux DVD playback software can bypass the DVD drive's built-in region locks, but it takes extra time for the software to break the region lock, and it is better to avoid the complications of region locks if you can."
[04:38] <luis_> how can I type in red? :p
[04:38] <aaA^> nickrud i cant edit
[04:38] <lowroad> in windows, i downloaded a program that ran in the background, it made it so that all my media players could play all region
[04:39] <Frogzoo> lowroad: that's from: http://www.linux.com/howtos/DVD-Playback-HOWTO/prep.shtml
[04:39] <Trekkie101> thanks blueheron and nickrud
[04:39] <nickrud> aaA^, try gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:39] <AstralJava> jramsey: Not sure what you mean, openoffice.org2 is the package name for basic OO.o2 stuff, you won't be seeing that in /etc/apt/sources.list. That is for repository information.
[04:39] <rick324132> jikanter: I'll BRB
[04:39] <avinoam> void^, it's all foobar
[04:39] <BlueHeron> Trekkie101: no problem, nickrud: thanks for the assist :-)
[04:39] <jramsey> AstralJava, i see that now that i've looked at the file
[04:39] <nickrud> BlueHeron, you out-typed me the first time :)
[04:39] <lowroad> Frogzoo, right now i'm trying to watch a japanese region dvd but it wont run, how do i bypass?
[04:39] <BlueHeron> nickrud: hehe
[04:39] <void^> avinoam: you uninstalled, and reinstalled?
[04:40] <avinoam> void^, yup
[04:40] <BlueHeron> heh windows vista has some hefty requirements.
[04:40] <AstralJava> jramsey: Alright. :) Do you still have something to ask about OO.o2?
[04:40] <conmiweb> hi
[04:40] <Frogzoo> lowroad: don't know - but look about for an option, or try a different player - apparently it's pretty common feature
[04:40] <conmiweb> i'm new on ubuntu
[04:40] <avinoam> void^, still foobar
[04:40] <jramsey> AstralJava,  sudo apt-get upgrade openoffice.org2
[04:40] <jramsey>  doesn't get anything
[04:40] <ghosty> hi everyone
[04:40] <Frogzoo> !tell jramsey about ooo2
[04:40] <BlueHeron> hi ghosty
[04:41] <aaA^> nickrud dont worry i did it in sypnatic
[04:41] <conmiweb> how can i know what version of ubuntu i have(breezy, hoary...)?
[04:41] <void^> avinoam: you mean the dhcp config or firestarter is foobar now?
[04:41] <arrick> how to use chntpw?
[04:41] <Frogzoo> conmiweb: cat /etc/issue
[04:41] <avinoam> void^, firestarter
[04:41] <ghosty> need some help with ubuntu.... im trying to install icmpenum, its saying that i need to get Libnet but i did a apt-get install and it did not find it
[04:41] <nickrud> aaA^, that's one way :)
[04:41] <AstralJava> jramsey: No, apt-get upgrade is a general upgrading tool, it won't do anything to just a single package name you write after that.
[04:41] <avinoam> void^, complete removal now?
[04:41] <conmiweb> thanks
[04:41] <jramsey> conmiweb, look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:42] <toxic_> What can I type instead of "sudo cd folder", since cd isn't a recognised command by sudo ?
[04:42] <minerale> Bah does firefox *have* to say it's ubuntu in the reference headers? See: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051010 Firefox/1.0.7 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)
[04:42] <BlueHeron> toxic_: you can get a root prompt by typing su
[04:42] <jramsey> AstralJava, if i wanted to make sure i had the latest oo, what apt-get command should i use?
[04:42] <AstralJava> jramsey: If you mean you want a newer OO.o2 package that's in Breezy repositories, you're gonna need to install it from elsewhere, since Breezy won't get newer version. It's in Dapper, I suppose.
[04:42] <_jason> toxic_: sudo -i
[04:42] <Frogzoo> toxic_: sudo -i might be easiest
[04:42] <conmiweb> how can I update firefox to 1.5?
[04:42] <toxic_> BlueHeron, Yeas I know, but apart from being root
[04:42] <nickrud> conmiweb, lsb_release -a
[04:42] <void^> avinoam: yeah, try with --purge
[04:42] <toxic_> Frogzoo, ok thanks
[04:42] <htinn> hmm
[04:42] <BlueHeron> toxic_: ahh, sudo -s or sudo -i
[04:42] <Frogzoo> !tell conmiweb about ff1.5
[04:43] <conmiweb> thanks!
[04:43] <minerale> !tell minerale about amd64ff1.5
[04:43] <ghosty> need some help here if anyone can help me out please, im trying to get icmpenum working on ubuntu anyone know if there is a .deb packages for it ?
[04:44] <toxic_> BlueHeron, thx
[04:44] <BlueHeron> toxic_: yep
[04:45] <scorpion> la espaol?
[04:45] <molinero> si
[04:45] <Frogzoo> !es
[04:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:45] <avinoam> void^, subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[04:45] <ghosty> antone know a search engine for .deb packages ?
[04:46] <ghosty> anyone^
[04:46] <BlueHeron> packages.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <ghosty> thx will try there
[04:46] <conmiweb> there're any manual to control remote form ubunto to other ubuntu?
[04:46] <Frogzoo> ghosty: apt-cache search 'regex'
[04:46] <BlueHeron> conmiweb: ssh ?
[04:46] <aaA^> thanks nickrud
[04:46] <void^> avinoam: well, i have no idea what's wrong with that package. it does say post-removal so it should be done with removing it anyways
[04:46] <conmiweb> no, graphic
[04:47] <aaA^> also
[04:47] <BlueHeron> conmiweb: oh... umm you could use vnc
[04:47] <krazykit> um.  so it's really bad that I have no /usr, isn't it...
[04:47] <aaA^> i downloaded the w32 codecs
[04:47] <conmiweb> how?
[04:47] <scorpion> como se pueden ver los dvds?
[04:47] <BlueHeron> krazykit: lol, real bad
[04:47] <Frogzoo> krazykit: game over :(
[04:47] <BlueHeron> conmiweb: sudo apt-cache search vn
[04:47] <BlueHeron> conmiweb: sudo apt-cache search vnc *
[04:47] <krazykit> dammit.  i thought everything got tarred up with my backup
[04:47] <htinn> O.o
[04:47] <krazykit> should've checked
[04:47] <krazykit> at least i have /home, which is the important one
[04:47] <avinoam> void^, it's still on my system
[04:47] <scorpion> alguien abla en espaol'
[04:47] <BlueHeron> krazykit: want a high quality full system backup command ?
[04:47] <scorpion> ?
[04:47] <scorpion> tio fumais porros
[04:47] <BlueHeron> krazykit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[04:48] <krazykit> BlueHeron: i just used tar -pcf
[04:48] <BlueHeron> krazykit: read that post, it will get everythin
[04:48] <arrick> how to use chntpw?
[04:48] <void^> avinoam: just a launcher, or does it actually still run?
[04:48] <Frogzoo> arrick: man chntpw
[04:48] <arrick> ok thanks Frogzoo
[04:48] <avinoam> void^, i tried to apt-get it again and it said that i have the latest version so i dunno
[04:48] <jramsey> how do i show the environ var $(KERNELDIR)? echo $(KERNELDIR) doesn't do it
[04:49] <aaA^> i downloaded the w32 codecs but when i try to install i get this http://pastebin.com/635898
[04:49] <Frogzoo> jramsey: echo $KERNELDIR
[04:49] <eugman> I'm just curious, is there a program for terminal based irc?
[04:49] <jramsey> :) i will get there ... eventually
[04:49] <Frogzoo> eugman: irssi
[04:49] <scorpion> k dvds?
[04:49] <scorpion> how look DVD?
[04:49] <krazykit> oh god.  my celery can't handle that much gzipping.
[04:50] <ghosty> right need to know the commands for install .deb packages from console, sorry im new to linux
[04:50] <nickrud> aaA^, it sounds like you may have a bad copy of w32codecs.
[04:50] <njan> ghosty, dpkg -i
[04:50] <molinero> scorpion entra al canal #ubuntu-es
[04:50] <krazykit> ghosty: dpkg -i .deb
[04:50] <Frogzoo> !deb
[04:50] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[04:50] <BlueHeron> ghosty: sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[04:50] <ghosty> thank you very much
[04:50] <scorpion> OK
[04:50] <eugman> oh it's already installed.heh.
[04:50] <scorpion> gracia
[04:50] <BlueHeron> ghosty: and to remove is sudo dpkg -r name.deb
[04:50] <void^> avinoam: try --reinstall
[04:50] <aaA^> nickrud ill redownload it
[04:51] <ghosty> so -r to remove and -i to install, thats simple enough thanks for the help
[04:51] <avinoam> void^, wait now it installed, should i move that config file before i run the wizard?
[04:51] <BlueHeron> yep ;-)
[04:51] <tbender> can anyone help me with skype? I installed it like described:
[04:51] <jramsey> ok how do i get the ubuntu kernel source? it's not in /usr/src/linux-2.6
[04:51] <ghosty> hey just noticed that standard install of ubuntu did not have gcc surport
[04:51] <nickrud> aaA^, 13228654 thats how big mine is
[04:51] <BlueHeron> tbender: skype is a low quality VOIP client compared to others available for linux
[04:51] <tbender> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype?highlight=%28skype%29
[04:51] <rick324132> jikanter: OK, I'm back
[04:51] <Trekkie101> gdmsetup doesn't ask for a password for logging in an automatic user, will that matter?
[04:51] <BlueHeron> tbender: i recommend ekiga
[04:52] <rick324132> jikanter: Are you still there?
[04:52] <Frogzoo> jramsey: sudo apt-get kernel-source-xxx
[04:52] <BlueHeron> Trekkie101: give it a try, shouldn't matter
[04:52] <BlueHeron> ubotu: tell tbender about ekiga
[04:52] <jikanter> still here
[04:52] <aaA^> im getting it now
[04:52] <jramsey> Frogzoo, it would be kernel-source-2.6 ?? is that what breezy is based on? what about the minor version?? like 2.6.12 ??
[04:52] <tbender> BlueHeron: I need it for communication in a mixed environment with teamemembers using win and lin
[04:52] <aaA^> thanx alot for you help nickrud
[04:52] <aaA^> peace
[04:52] <BlueHeron> tbender: yea, ekiga can do that
[04:52] <nickrud> aaA^, yw
[04:53] <vinboy> hi
[04:53] <vinboy> how do I install firefox 1.5 from package manager?
[04:53] <avinoam> void^, it didn't create a new file
[04:53] <rick324132> jikanter: Download the driver from http://www1.linksys.com/international/driver.asp?coid=6&intdlid=7
[04:53] <nickrud> vinboy, you don't
[04:53] <tbender> BlueHeron: yes but only if the others use it too, right?
[04:53] <nickrud> !tell vinboy about ff1.5
[04:53] <BlueHeron> tbender: nope.
[04:53] <krazykit> goddammit. stupid me.  not properly forming my tar statement, and no checking my backup.
[04:53] <jikanter> thanks rick
[04:53] <tbender> BlueHeron: hows, that?
[04:54] <avinoam> void^, it's failing to start the dhcp server
[04:54] <rick324132> jikanter: That's not all :P
[04:54] <BlueHeron> tbender: i will help you with the skype problem if you wish, what error do you get if any?
[04:54] <vinboy> thx nickrud and ubotu
[04:54] <rick324132> jikanter: Then extract it
[04:54] <void^> avinoam: yes, because the dhcpd.conf is foobar
[04:54] <rick324132> jikanter: Open the terminal
[04:54] <ghosty> anyone here got icmpenum installed on ubuntu ?
[04:54] <rick324132> jikanter: (assuming you downloaded it to your desktop), type "cd Desktop" into the terminal
[04:54] <avinoam> void^, any idea how to fix?
[04:55] <tbender> BlueHeron: Hold on. If I can communicate with the skype folks over ekiga I am willing to use it
[04:55] <rick324132> jikanter: then "cd WPC11\ driver\ and\ wizard"
[04:55] <void^> avinoam: so for a simple fix, i'd try moving it elsewhere and see if i could get firestarter to create a new one by messing with its options
[04:55] <rick324132> then "cd WinXP"
[04:55] <tbender> BlueHeron: how does that work?
[04:55] <tbender> BlueHeron: I thought skype only uses its own proprietary protocol
[04:55] <BlueHeron> tbender: yea one sec checking something out
[04:56] <rick324132> jikanter: then "cd WinXP", sorry, I forgot to prefix the message with your name ._.
[04:56] <BlueHeron> tbender: you might be right, i know ekiga can talk to any other VOIP client though. unfortunatly skype is a peice of closed source junk
[04:56] <whyami> I've used my built-in CD burner with k3b and breezy no problem. Today I hooked up our external usb2 DVD burner and I can't get k3b to burn to it. I get:  "unable to open64("/dev/scd0",O_RDONLY): No such device or address. It does this after I give the command to burn and the DVD drive clangs around a bit. I've tried different new DVDs....
[04:56] <jikanter> thanks
[04:56] <BlueHeron> tbender: so what is your skype error ?
[04:56] <jramsey> any takers on the sudo apt-get kernel-source-xx, and what the xx should be for the ubuntu 5.10??
[04:56] <rick324132> jikanter: then "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper"
[04:56] <Trekkie101> thank you blueheron thats everything working perfect now :)
[04:56] <ghosty> having trouble cant find bash: libnet-config: command not found , anyone know what i need to install
[04:56] <BlueHeron> Trekkie101: no problem
[04:56] <avinoam> void^, nah it doesn't
[04:56] <rick324132> jikanter: that will install NdisWrapper :D
[04:57] <ghosty> im trying to compile like this gcc `libnet-config --defines` -o icmpenum icmpenum.c -lnet -lpcap
[04:57] <BlueHeron> tbender: all my friends on windows use gizmo, and gizmo has a linux mac and windows version, and ekiga talks to it perfectly it's just like skype.
[04:57] <void^> avinoam: even if you disable dhcp in firestarter, save, and enable it again?
[04:57] <Frogzoo> whyami: check the permissions & group of /dev/scd0 & copy across from /dev/cdrom
[04:57] <rick324132> jikanter: after that, run "ndiswrapper -i LSWLNDS5.INF" to install the driver
[04:57] <BlueHeron> tbender: but open source of course.
[04:57] <avinoam> void^, then it works
[04:57] <jikanter> rick324132: Thanks
[04:57] <tbender> BlueHeron: well. no error. I can start it with aoss (alsa-oss emulation). I can hear the ringtone. but then its quiet
[04:57] <stocksy> hi everyone, I've broken my ubuntu install.  I was editing /etc/group, but I fat fingered it and now I'm no longer a member of the admin group.  I can't sudo
[04:57] <AstralJava> jramsey: I found this page that apparently includes a latest or at least quite new version of OO.o2 for Breezy. http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ Beware though, I have no idea what installing that will do to your existing system! If I were you, and had no urgent need for it, I'd wait for Dapper. You have been WARNED! :)
[04:57] <avinoam> void^, it's all dhcp's fault
[04:57] <rick324132> jikanter: then create a modprobe alias with "ndiswrapper -m"
[04:57] <jramsey> AstralJava, i am gonna wait ... txs
[04:57] <avinoam> void^, should i set a static IP?
[04:57] <Frogzoo> stocksy: reboot in 'recovery mode' (single user)
[04:57] <BlueHeron> tbender: i see, hmm.... i know that skype uses OSS which is not good @ all .... have you tried using plain OSS ?
[04:58] <rick324132> jikanter: oh, you might need to run the ndiswrapper stuff under sudo :P
[04:58] <ompaul> !skype
[04:58] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[04:58] <AstralJava> jramsey: Okay, wise decision. :)
[04:58] <testingirssi> Woot. irssi works.
[04:58] <BlueHeron> lol
[04:58] <rick324132> jikanter: then run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[04:58] <jramsey> i can be wise when counciled
[04:58] <stocksy> frogzoo: any idea how to do that in yaboot?
[04:58] <[blah] > is there a cmd line command to show the current disk / slice that is mounted  ie giving me an output of something like "/dev/disk0s1"
[04:58] <jramsey>  ok how do i get the ubuntu kernel source? it's not in /usr/src/linux-2.6
[04:58] <Frogzoo> stocksy: wtf is yaboot?
[04:58] <jramsey> oops
[04:58] <rick324132> jikanter: then go to System>Administration>Networking
[04:58] <testingirssi> So why is it installed for everyone?
[04:58] <tbender> BlueHeron: well, I dunno how
[04:58] <nickrud> ghosty, depending on if you have libnet1 or libnet0 installed, install libnet0-dev or libnet1-dev
[04:58] <rick324132> jikanter: BTW, do you need me to slow down?
[04:58] <tbender> BlueHeron: first I startetd skype normally
[04:59] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: its the boot loader for macs
[04:59] <stocksy> Frogzoo: it's the bootloader for newworld ppc
[04:59] <Frogzoo> [blah] : mount ?
[04:59] <BlueHeron> tbender: in the device manager is it set to use /dev/dsp for skype?
[04:59] <stocksy> i'll google for single user + yaboot
[04:59] <bwlang> jramsey: you have to install the source package...  use synaptic to find linux-source (or kernel-source can't remember which it is ...)
[04:59] <ompaul> BlueHeron, and tbender have a look at the "dsp hijacker" for use with skype it help http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[04:59] <BlueHeron> tbender: in the skype settings their is like an area for settings.
[04:59] <Frogzoo> ah, thx gnomefreak  - stocksy doesn't yaboot have a recovery mode?
[04:59] <tbender> BlueHeron: yes. there is no other option anyway
[04:59] <jramsey> bwlang, will try now ...
[04:59] <rick324132> jikanter: Are you still there?
[04:59] <avinoam> void^, ?
[04:59] <tbender> BlueHeron: only option with sound-device is /dev/dsp
[05:00] <void^> avinoam: that's cheating (but reasonable anyway)
[05:00] <BlueHeron> tbender: i used skype for awhile, and all i had was problems it is a low quality app....
[05:00] <BlueHeron> tbender: it uses an ancient sound system
[05:00] <stocksy> Frogzoo: it seems to just have an entry for the current kernel and the last kernel (vmlinux.old etc)
[05:00] <jikanter> still here, working on your instructions.
[05:00] <stocksy> no recovery mode
[05:00] <rick324132> jikanter: Do you have an instant messenger or something?
[05:00] <avinoam>  void^ i know i'd rather not but what to do. what subnet/gateway/dns should i give it?
[05:00] <Frogzoo> stocksy: hit 'e' & add 'single' to the end of the boot line - then hit 'b' to boot
[05:01] <jramsey> bwlang, if i get All with synaptic, will that get all kernel source for the right version of linux for ubuntu 5.10???
[05:01] <stocksy> Frogzoo: ok, thanks, I'll try that now
[05:01] <whyami> Frogzoo: just tried it. The permissions were 777 for /dev/cdrom so that's what I set /dev/scd0 to. Still doesn't work, though.
[05:01] <tbender> BlueHeron: If I were not stuck with the windowsguys I would switch any time
[05:01] <BlueHeron> tbender: you should get them to use gizmo
[05:01] <jikanter> yeah, it would be great if you could slow down
[05:01] <void^> avinoam: you could just modify the sample dhcpd.conf to fit your network. i'd uncomment the 3rd subnet block and just replace the numbers :)
[05:01] <AstralJava> jramsey: You will know what source package you need by typing uname -r in a console.
[05:01] <tbender> BlueHeron: well that would be about 20 people to convince ;)
[05:01] <rick324132> jikanter: What IM, what's your ID? It'll be easier without all these other people O.o
[05:01] <avinoam> void^, no more dhcpd. too confushing. i wanna try manually first
[05:02] <BlueHeron> tbender: ;-P so it goes quiet after you connect..?
[05:02] <bwlang> jramsey: as far is i know there is no get "all" and you don't want that anyway.... you'll have something linke linux-image-version installed... just find the linux-source package that corresponds.  But you may not need the full source - are you sure you do?
[05:02] <tbender> BlueHeron: yes so to speak
[05:02] <gnomefreak> anyone else having problems with the kde repos in easysource?
[05:02] <tbender> BlueHeron: there is something like dsp-hjacker or so
[05:02] <tbender> BlueHeron: I'll have a look at that
[05:02] <BlueHeron> tbender: okay.
[05:02] <jramsey> AstralJava, shoujdl i use apt-get or synaptic? bwlang i want it because i need to build a loadable module and it needs whatever building a module needs
[05:02] <jikanter> where would I find my ID
[05:02] <avinoam> void^, i gotta fill in subnet mask, default gateway, and dns's
[05:02] <tbender> anyway, skype def. sucks
[05:02] <Frogzoo> jikanter: 'id'
[05:02] <avinoam> void^, what do i choose?
[05:03] <jikanter> id
[05:03] <jikanter> 'id'
[05:03] <rick324132> jikanter: I was talkikng about instant messenger, do you have one?
[05:03] <Frogzoo> jikanter: 'id' it's a command
[05:03] <jikanter> oh yeah
[05:03] <void^> avinoam: same subnet as your wlan0, gateway is your wlan0 ip, dns is your dns server, probably found in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:04] <rick324132> jikanter: Such as Yahoo! Messenger, MSN Messenger, Google Talk, or AOL Instant Messenger
[05:04] <AstralJava> jramsey: Oops, sorry. I only found a package called linux-source-2.6.12 which you can install either by apt-get or Synaptic, your call really whether you prefer a GUI or console. You did you Breezy, right? And it's up-to-date?
[05:04] <jikanter> yeah, Jbomb500, AIM
[05:04] <jikanter> I just need to sign on
[05:04] <rick324132> jikanter: Thanks, I'll add you to my buddy list a sec
[05:04] <bwlang> jramsey: then you need the full soucrce...
[05:04] <jikanter> thanks, I really appreciate the help
[05:05] <jramsey>  sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 wants to install binutils ... is that all i need??
[05:05] <s-ndh-c> hey guys
[05:05] <whyami> okay now this is weird. I took the command k3b was giving growisofs, copies and pasted it into the command line, and now the DVD is burning.
[05:05] <s-ndh-c> is there some good svn tut for ubuntu?
[05:05] <rick324132> jikanter: Are you on AIM yet?
[05:06] <s-ndh-c> i want to setup a svn repo for my personal software projects
[05:06] <rick324132> jikanter: nevermind
[05:06] <avinoam> void^, now i have one way pinging
[05:06] <htinn> :)
[05:06] <jikanter> yeah I am on
[05:06] <avinoam> void^, but i do have internet
[05:06] <avinoam> void^, so that's freaking awesome!
[05:07] <jramsey> AstralJava, bwlang it is 40Meg so i think it might be the entire source :)
[05:07] <wendain> how do I get rid of gnome and install kde?
[05:07] <BlueHeron> wendain: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:08] <BlueHeron> wendain: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:08] <BlueHeron> wendain: hard to get rid of gnome totally though ...
[05:08] <tristanmike> probably wanna do it the other way first
[05:08] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: yea :-)
[05:08] <wendain> BlueHeron, thank you
[05:08] <tristanmike> install Kubuntu first, then remove Ubuntu
[05:08] <wendain> yup I know
[05:08] <serkan_calis> how can i start sshd deamon with ubuntu
[05:08] <tristanmike> cool
[05:08] <avinoam> void^, thanks man
[05:08] <BlueHeron> wendain: you are better off with a server install, then installing kde
[05:08] <_jason> wendain: you should use aptitude to install kubuntu-desktop, so it can easily be removed if you change your mind
[05:08] <DoctorDyna> yeah might be easier to just download kubuntu
[05:09] <jemt> Greetings. I have been trying to get dual head working in ubuntu (multiple monitors) using Xinerama. I have added my video card twice to xorg.conf, the same goes for my monitor and my screen. Also, I have added the ServerFlag Xirerama - but it dosn't work (xorg.conf file available here : http://powerzone.dk/xorg.conf.txt ). Is there something wrong with my config? Or do I need to install additional packages? My secondary screen (connected to VGA) works fine
[05:09] <wendain> I like KDE been using it a long time hate the gnome looks
[05:09] <ompaul> BlueHeron, that ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it contains no real applications
[05:09] <_jason> serkan_calis: did you install openssh-server?
[05:09] <BlueHeron> ompaul: yea i know
[05:09] <ompaul> wendain, kubuntu-desktop for you :-)
[05:09] <serkan_calis> nop i just check ssl
[05:09] <wendain> thanks
[05:09] <serkan_calis> ok _jason ll install it now
[05:10] <jemt> I would really appriciate some help :)
[05:10] <BlueHeron> is ssh the most secure encryption, or is their something better?
[05:10] <_jason> serkan_calis: yeah, just install openssh-server.  The server should startup and startup every boot too after that
[05:10] <serkan_calis> where is the deamon
[05:10] <serkan_calis> rcX?
[05:10] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: ssh with blowfish & large keys is about as good as it gets
[05:11] <BlueHeron> blowfish ?
[05:11] <ragunath> i messed up completly the PATH i l lost almost all the path to basic libraties , is there a way to recover it
[05:11] <Frogzoo> BlueHeron: man ssh
[05:11] <_jason> serkan_calis: yeah, somewhere in there
[05:11] <dds> hi
[05:11] <jramsey> i need to extract the kernel source tar; from the archive reader it whines about permissions when i want it to extract to /usr/src ... suggestions??
[05:12] <serkan_calis>  /usr/sbin/sshd
[05:12] <_jason> ragunath: what did you do in messing it up?
[05:12] <IdleOne> BlueHeron, Blowfish is a method of encryption like md5 and others
[05:12] <vinboy> hi
[05:12] <BlueHeron> IdleOne: i see tanks
[05:12] <dds> im from cadiz spain
[05:12] <_jason> !es
[05:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:12] <fish_> md5 is for encryption?!
[05:12] <Frogzoo> fish_: not anymore ;)
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> md5 is a checksum last i looked.
[05:13] <ragunath> i tried to set the path to java in the meen time i lot all other things now if i install some thing i get the error "I found a copy of pkgconfig, but there is no libart-2.0.pc file around.
[05:13] <ragunath>   You may want to set the PKG_CONFIG_PATH variable to point to its
[05:13] <ragunath>   location.
[05:13] <ragunath> "
[05:13] <IdleOne> fish_,  no not excatly but you know what I meant
[05:13] <wendain> ok one other thing and I think I got a handle on this, install didn't setup a root(admin acct) only user and I can do it all any way to change this?
[05:13] <dds> #ubuntu-es
[05:13] <IdleOne> dds, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:13] <_jason> ragunath: where/how did you make your changes?
[05:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell wendain about root
[05:14] <arrick> Anyone here remember the windows 3.1 dos game tht had tanks in a landscape that you could have mutiple players, and what it was called?
[05:14] <wendain> thank you
[05:14] <ragunath> directly export PATH= some thing
[05:14] <htinn> arrick, scorched earth
[05:14] <BlueHeron> brb gonna smoke a joint
[05:14] <_jason> ragunath just close your bash window and open a new window, your PATH should be the normal one then
[05:14] <arrick> htinn, is there a ubuntu game like it?
[05:15] <ragunath>  I could not find a working copy of libart-2.0. Check config.log for hints on w hy
[05:15] <ragunath>   this is the case. Maybe you need to set LDFLAGS and CPPFLAGS appropriately
[05:15] <ragunath>   so that compiler and the linker can find libart_lgpl_2 and its header files. I f
[05:15] <ragunath>   you have not installed libart-2.0, you can get it either from its original hom e on
[05:15] <htinn> scorch 3d
[05:15] <arrick> !enter
[05:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:15] <_jason> ragunath: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for big pastes
[05:15] <htinn> arrick, there's also xscorch
[05:15] <IdleOne> _jason, may I msg you a momment?
[05:15] <ragunath> ok
[05:15] <_jason> IdleOne: sure
[05:15] <tigerdell> hi
[05:16] <arrick> I remember scorched earth, is there a game like it in ubuntu?
[05:16] <jemt> Could someone please take a look at http://powerzone.dk/xorg.conf.txt and tell me what I am doing wrong in my attemp to get multiple monitors working?
[05:16] <tigerdell> i have a little ask about lagno game
[05:16] <tigerdell> there are somebody that know some game server?
[05:17] <jemt> Do I need to install additional packages to get support for multiple monitors??
[05:17] <oppo> hello evrerybody i have a problem for installing a game named the mana world is somebody have installed it??
[05:18] <arrick> I remember scorched earth, is there a game like it in ubuntu? htinn?
[05:18] <htinn> arrick, look at xscorch or scorch3d
[05:18] <arrick> ok
[05:18] <arrick> thanks
[05:18] <stocksy> having no luck with yaboot, downloading a livecd instead.  <grumpy>you'd think that the installer would create a recovery entry</grumpy>
[05:19] <x999> what do I have to do to get firefox to find the java plugins?
[05:19] <stocksy> also, you would think I would check that before trying something stupid
[05:19] <duelboot> g'day arrick...how's the back?
[05:19] <BlueHeron> stocksy: no html tags here !!! :-P
[05:19] <arrick> sore, thats why I'm not in church right now
[05:19] <stocksy> that's clearly xml ;) but ok
[05:19] <BlueHeron> lol sorry :-P
[05:19] <duelboot> arrick, east coast?
[05:20] <arrick> Michigan
[05:20] <ompaul> !java
[05:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:20] <ompaul> x999 ^^^ look up
[05:21] <syndicate> does anyone here use xarchive? what are the downside/risk of installing non-deb software (custom compile)?
[05:21] <dabaR> Good Ubuntu Morning/Day/Evening to all.
[05:22] <x999> cowbux getting sinus drainage and crick in neck from looking up.
[05:22] <dabaR> syndicate: if you compile, nothing can go wrong.
[05:22] <BlueHeron> syndicate: if you want to compile software, you can install with checkinstall
[05:22] <syndicate> thanks
[05:22] <BlueHeron> syndicate: and then you can remove later with apt
[05:22] <syndicate> how do i unstall custom compiled software?
[05:22] <ompaul> syndicate, that is where you do the compiling :-)
[05:22] <gnomefreak> dpkg
[05:22] <dabaR> syndicate: what is dangerous about non ubuntu binaries is that they contain scripts which could be looking for things in wrong places, and make inadvertent modifications.
[05:22] <x999> x999 is cowbux today, oh, you mean the link, ta.
[05:22] <Quinn_Storm> ompaul: either use checkinstall, or in most cases make uninstall
[05:22] <gnomefreak> syndicate: compile it
[05:22] <jramsey> tar help: will the following extract the tar into /usr/src if that is where i run it from?  sudo tar -x linux-source-2.6.12.tar
[05:23] <arrick> Anyone here need help with a Lexmark X6170 printer setup?
[05:23] <arrick> I got mine going finally
[05:23] <gnomefreak> !compile
[05:23] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[05:23] <gnomefreak> ^^^^ syndicate
[05:23] <Frogzoo> jramsey: sudo tar xf linux-source-2.6.12.tar
[05:23] <syndicate> great. thanks everyone
[05:23] <avinoam> gnomefreak, i got it to work
[05:23] <tigerdell> i have a little ask about lagno game
[05:23] <tigerdell> there are somebody that know some game server?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> avinoam: what did you get to work?
[05:24] <jramsey> Frogzoo, she's off and running ... txs
[05:24] <avinoam> gnomefreak, my ad-hoc
[05:24] <BlueHeron> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ham cheese with ketchup
[05:24] <Frogzoo> jramsey: cool
[05:24] <BlueHeron> tasty like nobody's business
[05:24] <gnomefreak> oh ok cool sorry i forgot
[05:24] <bkn> hi, has anyone succesfully installed ubuntu and MOL on a powerbook? i'm trying to get MOL working with no luck. I used the wiki howto, but i'm stuck.
[05:25] <ompaul> gnomefreak, feel like improving the wiki?
[05:25] <nick|here> is Linux 2.6.16.1 stable in ubuntu ?
[05:25] <avinoam> gnomefreak, but now my keyboard keeps                  echoing characters
[05:25] <jramsey> i wonder if Gates stays awake at night wondering how much longer the party will last??
[05:25] <unity> does anyone know how to block messages from syslog@localhost, or how to inhibit the pcspeaker's beep when i get a message?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> ompaul: im opening it now trying to atleast
[05:25] <juanramon> I a newcomer to Linux. ANybody may suggest an easy, but complete, source to read?
[05:25] <ompaul> gnomefreak, :)
[05:25] <arrick> BlueHeron, yuck
[05:25] <nick|here> juanramon: ubuntuguide.org
[05:25] <x999> gnomefreak, why did you put the exclamation point before the word compile?
[05:25] <sam_> Hi ever1 howz is u all?????????
[05:25] <gnomefreak> i wanna see what they say about build-dep and checkinstall
[05:25] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[05:25] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[05:26] <Frogzoo> jramsey: Bill twigged to Linux a few years ago
[05:26] <whyami> I just burned a DVD and it plays fine in vlc as a DVD but I get no sound when playing it on my dvd player at home. Is this a codec issue?
[05:26] <PlantPerson> I installed a dual-boot with ubuntu last night
[05:26] <arrick> Frogzoo, you see my post about getting that * lexmark working?
[05:26] <PlantPerson> But my windows partitions appear to be owned by root
[05:26] <Frogzoo> arrick: no, any luck?
[05:26] <jramsey> i remember the house he built into the hill on the lake around seattle had nt servers all over the place doing his entertainment and security; think it's ubuntu now? :)
[05:26] <sam_> Olz will sum1 talk 2 me
[05:27] <nick|here> is Linux 2.6.16.1 stable in ubuntu???
[05:27] <MenZa> Hmm... I just installed Dapper on a seperate harddrive - without having the other, the primary one, plugged in. Therefore, Grub can't seem to find my Windows install, so I have to actually unplug either of them, depending on which I want to use.
[05:27] <arrick> Frogzoo, yeah I modded the 7170 developer driver to run it, and it works better than in windows now
[05:27] <PlantPerson> how can I change the permissions so that I own them and not root?
[05:27] <sam_> i mean plz will sum1 talk 2 me
[05:27] <arrick> ok gotta go fro a bit, will be back later
[05:27] <Frogzoo> jramsey: imo, one of the big agendas with vista is to create a 64bit api the wine folks can't take apart ;)
[05:27] <PlantPerson> Hi sam_
[05:27] <duelboot> PlantPerson...mine is owned by root as well
[05:27] <avinoam> anyone know why my keyboard keeps echoing characters?
[05:27] <BlueHeron> MenZa: weird setup
[05:27] <Frogzoo> arrick: nice!
[05:27] <sam_> hi howz u????
[05:27] <MenZa> BlueHeron: pardon?
[05:27] <PlantPerson> duelboot: do you know how to change it?
[05:27] <BlueHeron> MenZa: run grub from ubuntu with the windows HD plugged in
[05:28] <MenZa> BlueHeron: (Note, I'm a total idiot at Linux)
[05:28] <duelboot> PlantPerson...you can chown it, but I don't think it'll stay when you reboot
[05:28] <gnomefreak> ompaul: it looks ok they mention checkinstall as a better alternative and they say to use build-dep
[05:28] <PlantPerson> Is there a way to change it permanently?
[05:28] <BlueHeron> MenZa: look here
[05:28] <duelboot> Plant...hold on, I give you some settings to add to /etc/fstab that'll let you read it every boot
[05:28] <BlueHeron> !dualboot
[05:28] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[05:28] <MenZa> !grub
[05:28] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:28] <sam_> howe do u chage u'r name
[05:28] <MenZa> BlueHeron: Thanks mate.
[05:29] <nick|here> !kernel
[05:29] <BlueHeron> np
[05:29] <gnomefreak> sam_: on irc type /nick newname
[05:29] <gnomefreak> newname=the name you want
[05:29] <sam_> thank u
[05:29] <Frogzoo> !tell PlantPerson about vfat
[05:29] <duelboot> PlantPerson, do this in fstab...subsitute your own dev and mount point.../dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222        0       0
[05:29] <BlueHeron> lol
[05:29] <BlueHeron> lOL
[05:30] <newqname> SAmmylvz?
[05:30] <BlueHeron> newqname: nice name
[05:30] <duelboot> PlantPerson...that's assuming you're using utf8, if not just remove that from the entry
[05:30] <newqname> thanks
[05:30] <BlueHeron> LOL
[05:30] <sam_> :P
[05:30] <PlantPerson> They do mount automatically already... but I'm not allowed to read them except through the partition view thing
[05:30] <BlueHeron> MyNewNick: you just wanted sam_ for your self
[05:30] <MenZa> BlueHeron: So... I don't see any mention of this in the How to Dual Boot with Windows (only glimpsed through it) - possible you could sum it up for me?
[05:31] <nick|here> i know you hate repeating, but any idea that is linux-2.6.16.1 stable with breezy?
[05:31] <BlueHeron> MenZa: you need GRUB on the HD to be able to boot both ubuntu + windows
[05:31] <newname> ?nick sammylvz?
[05:31] <newname> sammy
[05:31] <MenZa> BlueHeron: I know that - how do I install that then?
[05:32] <sammylvz> now i chage my name
[05:32] <duelboot> PlantPerson, you need to use umask=0222 in /etc/fstab
[05:32] <BlueHeron> guys, if you have 2 hd's with seperate os's how do you get grub to recognize them both again ??
[05:32] <tanuki_> can you use rpm's in ubuntu?
[05:32] <sammylvz> i will be bck
[05:32] <Frogzoo> !tell tanuki_ about alien
[05:32] <dabaR> nick|here: are you asking whether that kernel version is stable in breezy?
[05:32] <newbuntie> is there a dateabase of supported motherboards somewhere? I've tried google but no luck
[05:32] <sfar> PlantPerson: i had the same problem.. wait a minute
[05:33] <Frogzoo> tanuki_: it's highly unrecommended - you can mess your system badly
[05:33] <duelboot> tanuki_ you have to convert them to .deb
[05:33] <tanuki_> then i will not do it.
[05:33] <tanuki_> hehe
[05:33] <PlantPerson> duelboot: will this be obvious how to do it?
[05:33] <nick|here> dabaR: yes
[05:33] <ompaul> nick|here, no it is not it stops at 2.6.12
[05:33] <dabaR> nick|here: stable is a concept that is defined by the person that perceives the behavior. It is not the official kernel for breezy, if that is what you are asking.
[05:33] <sammylvz> hi im goin talk 2 my self
[05:33] <sfar> PlantPerson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:34] <duelboot> PlantPerson, see the entry above with the /etc/fstab line to have for windows:
[05:34] <BlueHeron> MenZa: hey, i'm not sure exactly give me a minute
[05:34] <ompaul> !offtopic
[05:34] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:34] <MenZa> BlueHeron: Sure, thanks mate.
[05:35] <nick|here> ompaul: i have read a guide to install vanilla to breezy? should be stable? i guess its newer than 2.6.12
[05:35] <sammylvz> sam_ y did u what my old name 4
[05:35] <juanramon> why Openoffice is not updated to version 2 in Ubuntu repository
[05:35] <BlueHeron> MenZa: hmm join ##linux
[05:35] <Frogzoo> !tell juanramon about ooo2
[05:36] <MenZa> BlueHeron: Okay.
[05:36] <sammylvz> plz sum1 talk 2 me????????????
[05:36] <duelboot> PlantPerson:  see private message and I can help you walk through it there
[05:36] <tristanmike> sammylvz: do you have a question ?
[05:36] <PlantPerson> I can't because I'm not registered
[05:36] <ompaul> juanramon, stable releases - you fix what you release and then you move up the food chain with your next release, that is how you keep things working together
[05:36] <duelboot> Plantperson?
[05:36] <unity> does anyone know how to block messages from syslog@localhost, or how to inhibit the pcspeaker's beep when i get a message?
[05:37] <duelboot> PlantPerson, are you using xchat?
[05:37] <PlantPerson> I can't PM you because I'm not registered
[05:37] <unity> i am getting ready to unplug the pcspeaker...
[05:37] <PlantPerson> I use chatzille
[05:37] <PlantPerson> chatzilla
[05:37] <sfar>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[05:37] <duelboot> oh, don't know it...
[05:37] <sammylvz> tristanmike:do u have a question?
[05:37] <BigX> I am having some great difficulty.  I have installed Dapper flight 5 and cannot for the life of me get the nvidia drivers to work.  I have installed them and xorg.conf lists the correct driver "nvidia" but when I go to switch the resolution all I have is 640x480 and 60Hz.  I'm assuming I'm doing something really stupid... help..
[05:37] <PlantPerson> I'm not connected through ubuntu... my modem isn't set up yet
[05:38] <Frogzoo> unity: if you're running sendmail you can alias syslog@localhost to /dev/null, if that's what you want
[05:38] <_jason> BigX: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?  dapper talk should go to #ubuntu+1 by the way
[05:38] <ompaul> sammylvz, this is not an ordinary chat channel it is focused on ubuntu there are almost 730 people here, head to #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[05:39] <sammylvz> ompaul:waht do u mean?
[05:39] <unity> Frogzoo: is that like the same as inhibiting the message: "Message from root on Apr 02 blah blah Machine is going down for halt NOW" when root schedules a halt?
[05:39] <PlantPerson> duelboot, meet me in #plaster5...
[05:39] <duelboot> ok
[05:40] <tristanmike> sammylvz: this is a help room, for general chatter please see #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:40] <sfar> PlantPerson: basically what you need to do is 1) backup /etc/fstab, 2) remove the automounted hdd's from /etc/fstab.. 3) run the discmounter-script from ubuntu wikipedia
[05:40] <Frogzoo> unity: you'd probably be better to edit /etc/syslog.conf, where that message comes from
[05:40] <sfar> takes about 1 minute
[05:40] <ompaul> sammylvz, please read the messages from the bot ubotu
[05:40] <unity> sammylvz: please type in "\j #ubuntu-offtopic" and then type random stuff there
[05:40] <sammylvz> ok
[05:41] <avinoam> anyone                 know how to get rid of a weird charaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacter echo in gnome?
[05:41] <sfar> unity: its /.. not \
[05:41] <sfar> :)
[05:42] <ompaul> avinoam, who knows, you need to look at your font settings System Preferences Keyboard
[05:43] <ompaul> avinoam, if your really having issues check out >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< though that seems a tad heavy
[05:43] <unity> avinoam: maybe your gnome is freezing between key-pressed and key-released events
[05:43] <sammylvz> how do i get on 2 aother chat room
[05:43] <BlueHeron> sammylvz: /join #channame
[05:43] <Frogzoo> avinoam: maybe your key repeat is set to be really quick?
[05:43] <avinoam> frogzoo i checked that
[05:44] <Frogzoo> sammylvz: /join #another-room
[05:44] <sfar> echo
[05:44] <unity> 
[05:44] <ompaul> sammylvz, click on this >> #ubuntu-offtopic << or type >> /join #ubuntu-offtopic <<
[05:44] <Frogzoo> echo
[05:44] <avinoam> ssssssssstill problematic
[05:44] <avinoam> unity, how do i fix thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat problem?
[05:44] <BlueHeron> avinoam: why are you TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTYYPING like that
[05:45] <unity> avinoam: i don't actually know how to fix it; i was just shedding light on where the problem might lie
[05:45] <sammylvz> >>/join #another-room
[05:45] <ompaul> avinoam, multiple repreats - use back space
[05:45] <tristanmike> sammylvz: without the ">>"
[05:45] <BlueHeron> sammylvz: minus the >>
[05:45] <avinoam> ompaul, thanks that reallllllllllllllly helps
[05:45] <tristanmike> sammylvz: and you have to type "#ubuntu-offtopic" not #another-room
[05:45] <Frogzoo> avinoam: does it happen on a plain tty? eg: ctrl alt f1
[05:46] <unity> tristanmike: lol no one else cared to point that out for a reason
[05:46] <avinoam> Frogzoo, how do i get back here after that?
[05:46] <sammylvz> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:46] <Frogzoo> avinoam: ctrl alt f8
[05:46] <tristanmike> sammylvz: now add "/join " before that
[05:46] <Frogzoo> avinoam: oops: ctrl alt f7
[05:46] <_jason> isn't it f7?
[05:46] <jramsey> Frogzoo, txs for ur help; all set for module building ... have a good one
[05:46] <Frogzoo> jramsey: cheers & gl
[05:47] <jramsey> Frogzoo, luck only required for windows ... go with the linux force
[05:47] <Frogzoo> :D
[05:47] <sammylvz> #ubuntu-offtopic/ join
[05:47] <avinoam> yeah so no it's not a problem when i'm in tty1
[05:47] <_jason> sammylvz: like this: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <avinoam> and it's not always a problem when i'm in gnome, just sometimes
[05:47] <Frogzoo> avinoam: interesting...
[05:47] <sammylvz> thank u
[05:47] <tristanmike> sammylvz: no, "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"  without the quotes
[05:47] <ivan013> hellooo
[05:48] <ompaul> avinoam, so as I suggested _before_    System Prefrerences Keyboard
[05:48] <avinoam> ompaul, i tried that
[05:48] <ompaul> avinoam, so it happens in OOo / Abiword ?
[05:48] <avinoam> ompaul, it happened right here in xirc
[05:49] <sammylvz> thank u for the help
[05:49] <avinoam> but now it seems to have quieted down a little bit
[05:50] <MenZa> !grub.conf
[05:50] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MenZa
[05:50] <MenZa> o_O
[05:50] <MenZa> !grub
[05:50] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:50] <BlueHeron> MenZa: hi
[05:50] <MenZa> lo BlueHeron.
[05:50] <Frogzoo> avinoam: pls: grep kbd /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:51] <MenZa> !dualboot
[05:51] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[05:51] <sfar> MenZa: /msg ubotu dualboot
[05:52] <MenZa> Sorry, sfar.
[05:52] <festini> dammit anything better for pdfs than evince?
[05:52] <krazykit> i don't suppose i can install ubuntu off the livecd...
[05:52] <festini> http://foxtel.tv/files/digital_interference.pdf
[05:52] <Frogzoo> festini: acrobat
[05:52] <ompaul> krazykit, correct
[05:53] <festini> take a look at that pdf and tell em i'm mistaken :)
[05:53] <ompaul> krazykit, at least for 5.10
[05:53] <duelboot> festini:  acrobat or xpdf
[05:53] <krazykit> wait, ompaul, i CAN?
[05:53] <ompaul> krazykit, you don't suppose correctly - i.e. you can't
[05:53] <krazykit> oh
[05:53] <krazykit> crap.
[05:53] <BlueHeron> dapper installs off a live-cd doesn't it?
[05:53] <sfar> festini: what about it?
[05:53] <Frogzoo> avinoam: pls: grep kbd /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:53] <fon_Zograf> hi2all =)
[05:53] <BlueHeron> doesn't that slow it down quite a bit ;-p
[05:53] <krazykit> regardless, i can't burn a CD on my desktop, for some reason.
[05:54] <sfar> festini: yeah .. looks like crap :D
[05:54] <krazykit> so my laptop is unusable for the time being.
[05:54] <bkn> hi, has anyone succesfully installed ubuntu and MOL on a powerbook? i'm trying to get MOL working with no luck. I used the wiki howto, but i'm stuck.
[05:54] <Panks> "make: *** No rule to process the target `sysfs/libsysfs.h', necessary by `lib/sysfs.ad'.  Stop." What Does It Means?!
[05:54] <katz0r> hi, i have a sound-problem. my sound used to work well on my old dapper, today i installed ubuntu via the installer on the live-cd (daily) and it doesnt work anymore. i cranked up all the volume controls but i dont get any system sounds and beepmediaplayer refuses to play
[05:54] <BlueHeron> katz0r: have you tried changing if it uses OSS or ALSA ?
[05:54] <Frogzoo> katz0r: for dapper issues -> #ubuntu+1
[05:54] <katz0r> i tried all output plugins
[05:55] <unity> katz0r: maybe your kernel doesn't have support for your sound card?
[05:55] <BlueHeron> katz0r: looked in alsamixer to see if anything is muted or off ?
[05:55] <katz0r> Frogzoo: Ooops
[05:55] <ompaul> krazykit, got two drives on your desktop?
[05:55] <_jason> Panks: what are you trying to compile?
[05:55] <unity> katz0r: or maybe the correct modules are not loaded for your sound card
[05:55] <krazykit> ompaul: yeah, but it worked with kernel 2.6.9, but stopped after 2.6.13
[05:55] <Panks> _jason: lm_sensors-2.10.0
[05:55] <ompaul> krazykit, and you have a livecd?
[05:56] <krazykit> ompaul: my desktop runs gentoo, i'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, and my install CD is 4 hours away
[05:56] <tyler_> one qn: why is it that i heard u can "rip" an mp3 file onto a normal cd.. n it can hold 200 songs... 3mb average per mp3 in a normal 600mb cd rom... but i can only burn 17-18 songs in mp3 format onto a cd rom with nero, whats the deal here?
[05:56] <x999> what do I have to do to get firefox to find the java plugins?
[05:56] <_jason> Panks: you know 2.9.1 is in breezy repos?
[05:56] <ompaul> krazykit, well there is the problem right there, gentoo on the desktop :-)
[05:57] <sfar> tyler_: i guess you're trying to burn an "audio cd"
[05:57] <alcros> Hi, I'm trying to setup a wireless ad-hoc lan, pings to eth0 (192.168.0.10) respond with no problems, but nothing to my gateway (192.168.0.1) echoes, any suggestions?
[05:57] <Panks> _jason: hmmm no... but can I install the newer version? or no?
[05:57] <sammylvz> whats a typical frech meal
[05:57] <_jason> Panks: sure, but with the repo version you won't get errors like that while you try to compile
[05:57] <ompaul> sammylvz, you have been told this is not a chat channel, please stop and move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:57] <sfar> an audio cd can only hold 74 or 80 minutes of music (~20 songs) BUT can be played in a regular cd-player (like a stereo)
[05:58] <_jason> Panks: take a look at the README/INSTALL files and make sure you have all the deps, 'apt-get build-dep lm-sensors' will help, and check you ./configure for errors...
[05:58] <sammylvz> i ask sumthing coz i need help
[05:58] <katz0r> unity: how do i find out which modules i need
[05:58] <sfar> if you want them to be burnt as mp3 you should select "data cd".. but then the cd wont work in a "regular" cd-player
[05:58] <sfar> got that tyler_ ?
[05:58] <alcros> Hi is this the right channel for wireless questions?
[05:59] <az1z> ooh shit
[05:59] <takedown> !easysource
[05:59] <katz0r> BlueHeron: all controls are up
[05:59] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:59] <ompaul> !CoC
[05:59] <az1z> ja nie speak english ;D
[05:59] <ubotu> well, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:59] <sfar> alcros: if you are running ubuntu yes
[05:59] <ompaul> !pl
[05:59] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[05:59] <alcros> yes I am
[05:59] <sfar> !tell alcros about wireless
[05:59] <az1z> quake III ARENA ??
[06:00] <tyler_> oh
[06:00] <unity> katz0r: do `lspci`and tell me what you see under "Multimedia audio controller"
[06:00] <sfar> alcros: read the message from ubotu, mabe it helps
[06:00] <jemt> Dual head sucks in Ubuntu >.<
[06:00] <jemt> Impossible to make it work..
[06:00] <alcros> I already have, I was on WirelessTroubleshooting
[06:00] <katz0r> unity: Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit (rev a2)
[06:00] <katz0r> 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[06:01] <alcros> and I managed to setitup, so pings to eth0 (the one with wireless) respond
[06:01] <tyler_> sfar, so when i burn an audio cd rom... it can hold only 17-18 songs.. but its playable with any type of cd player.. doesnt need to be mp3 enabled player?
[06:01] <tyler_> right?
[06:01] <alcros> but nothing responds when trying to ping my gateway
[06:01] <sfar> tyler_: yes
[06:01] <sfar> correct
[06:01] <stocksy> jemt: i have it working, wanna see my xorg.conf?
[06:01] <katz0r> unity: and Multimedia audio controller: Fortemedia, Inc Xwave QS3000A [FM801]  (rev b2)
[06:01] <njal> oh good what appears to be a wireless question
[06:01] <katz0r> the nVidia thing's onboard
[06:01] <x999> !firefox
[06:01] <njal> does anyone know how to make the bcm43xx driver work under mac?
[06:02] <njal> well
[06:02] <njal> linux
[06:02] <njal> on a mac
[06:02] <ompaul> !enter
[06:02] <az1z> Opera :PP
[06:02] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:02] <tyler_> ohh.... any difference in quality between a data cd rom mp3 song and a regular audio song?
[06:02] <jemt> stocksy: Well, I have already seen several "working" configurations - all like mine. Still dosn't work. Did you install additional packages to make your setup work ?
[06:02] <sammylvz> hi
[06:02] <stocksy> jemt: just the nvidia driver
[06:02] <krazykit> tyler_: depends.  if you burn the audio CD from an mp3, the quality is the same.  however, if you're comparing a ripped mp3 from the audio CD, the audio CD is much higher quality
[06:02] <sfar> tyler_: not really.. mp3's is just encoded (compressed) audio-cd tunes..
[06:03] <user_> Does anyone here have experience using FreeBASIC on Linux?
[06:03] <user_> Or even XBASIC?
[06:03] <krazykit> sfar: except that the mp3 codec tosses out sound data...
[06:03] <jemt> stocksy: I'm using ATI. I guess you are using the Twin-thing, right?
[06:04] <njal> anyone?
[06:04] <stocksy> jemt: nope, xinerama
[06:04] <sfar> krazykit: yes.. but if you burn an audio cd from mp3s it will be the same quality as if you burnt them like a data cd
[06:04] <jemt> stocksy: Guess Xinerama is my choice - unless I wanna try out fglrx which creates a very nasty xorg.conf file
[06:04] <sfar> there is no quality loss from mp3 -> audio cd
[06:04] <tyler_> cool, 200 songs on a cd for my car!!
[06:04] <tyler_> woah
[06:04] <tyler_> now that entertainment!!
[06:04] <tyler_> thanks bros
[06:04] <tyler_> :)
[06:04] <x999> !compile
[06:04] <jemt> stocksy: Really? Interesting
[06:04] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[06:04] <krazykit> tyler_: only if your car plays mp3 cds
[06:04] <jemt> stocksy: Let me see it :)  please
[06:04] <tyler_> yup.. it dpoes
[06:04] <unity> katz0r: sorry i don't know what kernel modules you need to load, sorry
[06:04] <user__> where can i get mplayer packages for ubuntu horay?
[06:05] <stocksy> jemt: it's in this blog entry: http://www.stocksy.co.uk/linux/linux_at_work.php
[06:05] <jemt> stocksy: Btw - mine is available here if you could help me out : http://powerzone.dk/xorg.conf.txt
[06:05] <sammylvz> how do get out of here
[06:05] <sfar> !tell user__ about mplayer
[06:05] <molinero> !package
[06:05] <ubotu> molinero: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:05] <_jason> user__: should be in multiverse
[06:05] <tyler_> so a normal vcd player will not be able to play a data cd filled with mp3s????
[06:05] <katz0r> unity: thanks anyways, i got the first card working...
[06:05] <jemt> stocksy: Thanks - checking it out
[06:05] <unity> katz0r: chances are they are loaded now, but you would need to add those to the end of /etc/modules to make sure they are loaded with your kernel
[06:05] <sammylvz> _jason:how do u chage rooms i forgot
[06:05] <holotone> Hey, anyone got a reccomend for a VNC Viewer that supports scaling and saving settings? vncviewer does neither.
[06:05] <tyler_> where can i read up pon this little known fact? web page? anyone?
[06:05] <_jason> sammylvz: /join #room_name
[06:05] <user__> i need packages
[06:06] <katz0r> ill see what lsmod tells me
[06:06] <unity> sammylvz: type in "/part"
[06:06] <ompaul> !tell user__ about restricted
[06:06] <user_> Does anyone here have experience using FreeBASIC on Linux?
[06:06] <ompaul> user__, read the page from the bot - to be honest you should consider moving to 5.10 from 5.04 before you go doing that
[06:07] <user__> i want to download packages manualy, without using apt-get
[06:07] <_jason> user__: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:07] <njal> ubuntu packages
[06:07] <katz0r> unity: its snd_fm801, and snd_intel8x0, ill see if it works after a reboot, thank you :-P
[06:07] <Devvv> i am getting a error while installing xine
[06:07] <Devvv> zlib need ??
[06:07] <Devvv> anyone can help me
[06:07] <holotone> Any suggestions for a high-quality VNC viewer such as Ultr@VNC?
[06:08] <_jason> user__: note however that if you download packages manually you will need to ensure you have all of the requried dependencies.  apt-get does that for you
[06:08] <holotone> I love Ultr@, but can't find it in Synaptic
[06:08] <jemt> stocksy: Did you look at my xorg.conf? It is almost identical to yours.
[06:08] <ompaul> user_ more of a question for #linuxhelp or a channel for either language I would imagine given it does not come with ubuntu as far as I can see
[06:08] <Devvv> anyone can help installing xine
[06:08] <stocksy> jemt: I can't see anything obviously wrong with it, but when I used an ati card, I used the fglrx driver
[06:08] <Devvv> i am getting a error
[06:08] <stocksy> which card is it?
[06:09] <Devvv> zlib need
[06:09] <_jason> Devvv: how are you trying to install?
[06:09] <jemt> stocksy: The funny thing is, I can't even switch my laptops screen on when I'm within X. Usely I can at least SWITCH the monitors back and forth - and maybe have it display the same image - but noo. Not with Ubuntu >.<
[06:09] <ompaul> !tell Devvv about multimedia
[06:09] <Devvv> i download it from the home site
[06:09] <jemt> stocksy: Ok
[06:09] <_jason> Devvv: xine is in the repositories
[06:09] <tyler_> sfar,  so i can use nero to do this, no need for special rippers? nero will do???
[06:10] <_jason> Devvv: there is xine-ui, gxine, totem-xine, all in universe.  Do you know about universe?
[06:10] <sfar> nero will do fine tyler_  :)
[06:10] <jemt> stocksy: Well, maybe time to try out fglrx - hopefully it will no corrupt my system too badly
[06:10] <Devvv> _jason,  how to check it ?
[06:10] <njal> if there anyone with any wireless linux experience?
[06:10] <ompaul> tyler_, your burning an image not a data file
[06:10] <Devvv> wait i try it again
[06:10] <ompaul> !tell njal about wireless
[06:10] <stocksy> jemt: should be fine, there is something about it on the ubuntu wiki i followed
[06:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell Devvv about universe
[06:11] <tyler_> how do i play an image, dude?
[06:11] <duelboot> njal:  what is your question?
[06:11] <ompaul> njal, read the message from the bot
[06:11] <jemt> stocksy: Yea, looking at it now
[06:11] <tyler_> ompaul,
[06:11] <jemt> stocksy: Did you download the drivers from ati.com, or used the drivers from the repos ?
[06:11] <fbaranpl> czesc
[06:11] <sfar> tyler_: burn as "data cd" (just as if you would burn regular documents)
[06:11] <tyler_> funny how do i store sounds as data on a cd rom, this i wil never understand
[06:11] <njal> i just wanna get that damn bcm43xx driver working
[06:12] <stocksy> jemt: my brain is foggy today, but I think I used the one in the repo
[06:12] <jemt> stocksy: Hehe, ok - thanks. You have been a great help :)
[06:12] <stocksy> jemt: I would just look on my pc, but it is at work!
[06:12] <hotlasslookin4fu> hi
[06:12] <tyler_> one more question, u mean the cd will not play in a normal vcd hifi player?
[06:12] <hotlasslookin4fu> howz ever1
[06:13] <ompaul> tyler_, sorry I misunderstood what you were doing I thought you were burning a live or install CD .. my mistake there
[06:13] <Yokalosh> how do you find out what is using /dev/dsp-1? i keep getting an error saying it is busy
[06:13] <x999> wot are u in4?
[06:13] <hotlasslookin4fu> waht u all talkin bout?
[06:13] <tyler_> no worries, dude.. at least u bother to help.. i like that
[06:13] <duelboot> hotlasslookin4fu, what is your question?
[06:14] <sfar> tyler_: if you burn a data-cd with mp3-files they will not be playable in a regular hifi-cd (UNLESS it has mp3-support)
[06:14] <hotlasslookin4fu> duelboot:wat r u on bout
[06:14] <tanuki_> can someone tell me how to restart firefox?
[06:14] <duelboot> !offtopic
[06:14] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:14] <ompaul> hotlasslookin4fu, this is a Ubuntu help channel we do not chat except to help with Ubuntu ^^^^^^
[06:14] <_jason> tanuki_: close all instances and then start it again
[06:14] <tyler_> sfar, anyway to mod a normal hifi vcd player to mp3 enabled?
[06:14] <sfar> tyler_:  If you want to play in a hifi-stereo you'll need to burn as Audio-cd, but then only 80 minutes of music will fit
[06:14] <sfar> tyler_: i dont think so :)
[06:15] <sfar> whats a "vcd player" anyways? :)
[06:15] <Yokalosh> maybe hotasslookin4u wanted to find out what people wer tlking about so he/she could help
[06:15] <hotlasslookin4fu> ompaul:where can i just chat
[06:15] <Yokalosh> haha i missread ur sn
[06:15] <Bambino> Does MSN work for Ubuntu? I tried this gaim thing , but it does not connect.. nothing happens when i try to connect. And how to i actually listen to mp3 and watch divx movies? cause its telling me i am missing files
[06:15] <tiago_> Hey guys! I changed my locale settings and after that I can't start postgresql... It show me: "Error: The server must be started under the locale pt_BR.UTF-8 which does not exist any more."
[06:15] <tanuki_> _jason, i am following the directions on this page http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable in order to enable java in my web browser however i am having trouble, can you help me?
[06:15] <ompaul> hotlasslookin4fu,  #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:16] <duelboot> Bambino, yes...but I use kopete...even in ubuntu
[06:16] <duelboot> bambino, works great
[06:16] <hotlasslookin4fu> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:16] <Yokalosh> Bambino: you could try aMSN, its close to msn
[06:16] <_jason> tanuki_: have you already installed java?
[06:16] <Bambino> I can try anything as long as i log in to msn server to chat with my friends there
[06:16] <Bambino> which one should i chose? and how to actually get it?
[06:16] <duelboot> Bambino, kopete
[06:16] <aka-fats> hi al
[06:16] <ompaul> hotlasslookin4fu,  issue the command after the arrows >>>/join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:16] <tanuki_> _jason, yes, im at the configuure and enable section
[06:17] <duelboot> use apt-get or synaptic
[06:17] <Bambino> duelboot, ok is in the synpatec or what its called?
[06:17] <duelboot> bambino ^^^
[06:17] <duelboot> yes
[06:17] <njal> does anyone know about the bcm43xx linux driver and how to make it work
[06:17] <Bambino> duelboot, cool, what about codecs for mp3 and watching movies?
[06:17] <duelboot> hold on, I'll get the actual name, but think it's the same
[06:17] <duelboot> !codecs
[06:17] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[06:17] <Yokalosh> Bambino: for your mp3s get this package gstreamer0.8-plugins
[06:17] <syndicate> ./configure says "configure: error: pkg-config could not find gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.4". I can't find gtk+-2.0 in synaptic - what should i do?
[06:17] <Yokalosh> Bambino: it has support for most audio formats
[06:18] <_jason> tanuki_: put what this returns on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me a link please: sudo updatedb && locate libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:18] <Yokalosh> *plug-ins
[06:18] <Bambino> Yokalosh, oki cool thanks
[06:18] <Yokalosh> :)
[06:18] <aka-fats> any1 got there ipod running in ubuntu ?
[06:18] <njal> Almost
[06:19] <unity> aka-fats: i have in the past
[06:19] <duelboot> Bambino, pkg is kopete...sudo apt-get install kopete
[06:19] <aka-fats> hehe its a little buggy
[06:19] <krazykit> aka-fats: yeah... just mount it and run gtkpod.
[06:19] <x999> what do I have to do to get firefox to find the java plugins?
[06:19] <duelboot> Bambino, it even supports video, but I haven't used it yet, will try it later today
[06:19] <Yokalosh> x999: make a dynamic link and then enable java in firefox
[06:19] <syndicate> anyone understand what "pkg-config could not find gtk+-2.0" means?
[06:19] <Yokalosh> x999: it tells you how on the java website
[06:19] <unity> aka-fats: when you plug it in, it should mount automatically, and then use gtkpod (which isn't all that good) and if that doesn't work, then i dunno. that's the full extent of my ipod knowledge
[06:19] <tanuki_> _jason, http://pastebin.com/636024
[06:20] <Bambino> duelboot, the "apt-get" what does that function do_ is it that it connectes to ubuntu internet and downloads something?
[06:20] <_jason> tanuki_: ok and you are using breezy and firefox1.07(default on breezy)
[06:20] <Yokalosh> Bambino: it downloads and installs the package from ubuntu servers
[06:20] <krazykit> unity: gtkpod is fine... i copied 20 gigs of music to the ipod without a problem.
[06:20] <Azertyuuu> hey can anyone post his grub-config ?  (menu.lst) ? I  messed up mine config
[06:20] <Bambino> Yokalosh, oh cool thanks
[06:20] <duelboot> bambino it's the terminal command to do the same as synaptic
[06:20] <aka-fats> hmm tryed but how do you transfer songs
[06:20] <Azertyuuu> *mine
[06:20] <Bambino> duelboot, thanks
[06:21] <s-ndh-c> krazykit:  there should be an example file
[06:21] <krazykit> aka-fats: read the docs?
[06:21] <krazykit> s-ndh-c: eh?
[06:21] <_jason> tanuki_: sorry, that was a question
[06:21] <s-ndh-c> in /boot/grub/ or in /usr/share/grub
[06:21] <krazykit> s-ndh-c: you're talking to the wrong person, i think.
[06:21] <s-ndh-c> ups
[06:21] <s-ndh-c> :P
[06:21] <sammylvz> i need help
[06:21] <aka-fats> had a look but got alittle fuzzy i will look again thankX
[06:21] <Bambino> does any one know why m monitor.exe is causing a fault in windows? this happend after the installation of UBUNTU., i got dual boot
[06:22] <Bambino> my|
[06:22] <duelboot> , bambino, one other way to do it applications -> add applications -> internet -> more programs -> kopete but that way is much longer :)
[06:22] <_jason> sammylvz: just ask your question
[06:22] <_jason> tanuki_: ok and you are using breezy and firefox1.07(default on breezy)?
[06:22] <Bambino> duelboot, cool various options always good ;)
[06:22] <sammylvz> does any1 know what atypical french meal is
[06:22] <unity> krazykit: i had problems with gtkpod not being able to create some directories on the ipod, i had to make them manualy
[06:22] <duelboot> jsut state your question sammylvz
[06:23] <rnd_null> what is the .conf file that has all my video setting in it?
[06:23] <duelboot> !offtopic
[06:23] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:23] <Yokalosh> bambino: what kind of fault?
[06:23] <gnomefreak> sammylvz: for that please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:23] <unity> krazykit: and risk corrupting the ipod's organization, however it stores music
[06:23] <Bambino> Yokalosh , first what happend was that my windows got 1000000000000 times slower. I am not joking, so slow that i had to wait 20 minute for my external harddrive to load
[06:23] <s-ndh-c> Azertyuuu: : /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/  << there you will find a example file
[06:23] <unity> krazykit: perhaps because it was previosly set up with itunes on windows?
[06:23] <krazykit> unity: which version of gtkpod?  i put stuff on a brand new ipod without problems using version .99.4, with
[06:24] <krazykit> oh, that could be.
[06:24] <rnd_null> >> what .conf hold my video settings?
[06:24] <njal> is there a mac hardware IRC room?
[06:24] <s-ndh-c> rnd_null:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf usualy
[06:24] <Azertyuuu> s-ndh-c: thanx
[06:24] <rnd_null> thank you
[06:24] <Bambino> Yokalosh, then i uninstalled ubuntu by removing the partion and the boot loader came up with ERROR 32 so i could not even go to windows anymore. Reinstalled UBUNTU and now i got that monitor.exe caused an error Do i wanna send it to microsoft or not.
[06:24] <scorchsaber> ncal: Do you mean PPC?
[06:24] <gnomefreak> njal: would try #mac or #apple
[06:24] <x999> Thank you yokalosh, i downloaded java (linux586etc) and it sat on the desktop and did nothing and would not run as .bin I thought it was supposed to go in a firefox folder
[06:24] <aka-fats> i am working on installling linux on my ipod "linuxpod"
[06:25] <krazykit> Bambino: yeah, like sending error reports to microsoft does anything :-P
[06:25] <Yokalosh> x999: :)
[06:25] <scorchsaber> krazykit: Beleive it or not, they are useful
[06:25] <gnomefreak> x999: i would get java either from repos or from javadebs site
[06:25] <s-ndh-c> yeah they have a lil programm that takes those messages and move them to /dev/null hehe
[06:25] <scorchsaber> If they get enough, they investigate the problem
[06:26] <Yokalosh> Bambino: i have no idea why but sometimes when you have windows and linux, for the first few times you boot windows after being on linux its really slow for the first few boots
[06:26] <Bambino> krazykit, Well I am happy, i am spamming them >P
[06:26] <Yokalosh> Bambino: when you removed ubuntu did you reinstall the windows bootloader?
[06:26] <Bambino> no, i have no idea what that is or how to
[06:26] <elijahb> I'm attempting to install kernel-2.6.16.1 powerpc and am getting "VFS: unable to mount rootfs". When I use an initrd I get "unknown filesystem type devfs". ext2/3 filesystem support compiled in kernel. suggestions?
[06:26] <turbolinux> hello
[06:27] <Azertyuuu> s-ndh-c: thanx again, very helpfull
[06:27] <turbolinux> 
[06:27] <turbolinux> 
[06:27] <turbolinux> 
[06:27] <Yokalosh> Bambino: stick in the windows disk and go through the installer except when it asks you if you want to install or fix/recover windows go into the recovery. then type fixmbr
[06:27] <turbolinux> 
[06:27] <turbolinux> 
[06:27] <Frogzoo> Yokalosh: you're imagining it - there's no state kept between linux & windows boot
[06:27] <ompaul> turbolinux, sopt
[06:27] <turbolinux> 
[06:28] <gnomefreak> turbolinux: stop
[06:28] <_jason> turbolinux: stop please
[06:28] <Bambino> Yokalosh, oh ok cool thanks
[06:28] <Yokalosh> Bambino: thats why you couldnt boot windows i thin
[06:28] <Yokalosh> bambino: i dont know whats wrong now though, did you look it up on google? ;)
[06:29] <Bambino> Nope i have been focusing on getting my wireless to work with ubuntu, something its not.. cant detect the hardware.. gonna try now again, thanks once again
[06:30] <Yokalosh> i'm still getting certain apps that my sound device is busy :/
[06:30] <Yokalosh> *+saying
[06:30] <krazykit> goddammit.  i wish ubuntu's install came with gcc 3.4 and all the auto-tools.
[06:30] <krazykit> breezy rather
[06:30] <Frogzoo> Yokalosh: install esd & you can run multiple simultaneous sound sources
[06:30] <Newubuntu> \leave
[06:30] <defcon8> what is the package needed for building things?
[06:31] <Frogzoo> krazykit: install build-essential
[06:31] <defcon8> c compiler and make and so on
[06:31] <AstralJava> defcon8: apt-get build-essential
[06:31] <Newubuntu> 7exit
[06:31] <defcon8> thanks
[06:31] <krazykit> Frogzoo: i know.  the problem is, though, that i need that stuff to build my wireless drivers.  so i can get internet.
[06:31] <jocker> gh
[06:31] <Frogzoo> oh noes...
[06:31] <elijahb> anyone had success compiling a 2.6.16 kernel for powerpc?
[06:32] <ghosty> http://www.packetfactory.net/libnet/ anyone have problems connecting to that site, im after libnet
[06:32] <Yokalosh> Frogzoo: i think it is installed, its only realplayer and skype that have suddenly got these errors, even when nothing (i can see) is using the sound device
[06:32] <jocker> fsdfssgfdtrd
[06:32] <tanuki_> _jason, ok
[06:32] <_jason> tanuki_: readlink -f /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:32] <Yokalosh> frogzoo: how can i find out if something is using it
[06:33] <tapox> Hi all. I want to install ubuntu on a laptop with a busted CD drive. Is there any floppy based net installer?
[06:33] <Frogzoo> Yokalosh: lsof /dev/dsp   ???
[06:33] <Frogzoo> tapox: usb?
[06:34] <cyro_> new wine snapshot
[06:34] <tapox> Frogzoo: I'm not sure if it can boot from USB.
[06:34] <cyro_> could someone package
[06:34] <tanuki_> _jason, IS THAT A COMMAND?
[06:34] <_jason> tanuki_: yes
[06:35] <tanuki_> _jason,  readlink -f /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:35] <tanuki_> er,
[06:35] <derek_> derek@Derek:~$ chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[06:35] <derek_> chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
[06:35] <derek_> derek@Derek:~$
[06:35] <derek_> what is the problem ?
[06:35] <tanuki_> _jason, /home/skalpel/Desktop/jre1.5.0_06/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:35] <_jason> derek_: there is no such file
[06:35] <gnomefreak> derek_: please use pastebin to paste
[06:35] <Yokalosh> frogzoo: strange... skype says /dev/dsp-1 is busy but doing lsof /dev/dsp-1 says it doesnt even exist
[06:36] <Yokalosh> frogzoo: and nothing comes up when i do it for /dev/dsp
[06:36] <Yokalosh> despite the fact i am playing music right now
[06:36] <Yokalosh> :/
[06:36] <derek_> _jason: i have downloaded the file and i stored it at desktop
[06:36] <_jason> tanuki_: ok, so it seems you install java to your desktop.  I think the easiest way to do this is to delete that stuff you did, and just use a javadeb.  Want to do that instead?
[06:37] <tanuki_> sure, if you want
[06:37] <_jason> derek_: cd ~/Desktop/
[06:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell derek_ about java
[06:37] <_jason> tanuki_: java /should/ be working right now the way you set it up by the way if you restart firefox.  i just think it will be sloppy to leave it on your desktop
[06:38] <harisund> _jason, do you feel a .deb installation of java is better than from the Sun Java website? I downloaded the Sun java (both the SDK and the JRE) and they work fine (atleast till now)
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> Yokalosh: I don't know you're particular problem (just got here), but the Linux build of Skype doesn't allow any other sounds during a call (known bug).
[06:38] <_jason> harisund: it works fine, apt is just not managing the files
[06:38] <derek_> _jason: alright i will refer to ubotu's guide
[06:39] <Yokalosh> tonyyarusso: nothing else was running though. i just get skype telling me there is a problem with the audio device and in terminal it says '/dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy'
[06:39] <_jason> tanuki_: ok, I'll send you the guide for the javadeb's.  You will want to run 'sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so' as well as delete the directory on your desktop.
[06:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell tanuki_ about javadeb
[06:39] <njal> is there anyone who knows anything about the broadcom 43xx driver
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> Yokalosh: Hmm.  All right, just thought I'd mention that in case it was relevant.
[06:39] <Yokalosh> tonyyarusso: thnx anyway :)
[06:39] <njal> because i am in three irc room's have view more forums than i care to remember and still not got it working
[06:40] <Rogerio> Hi ! I need to import a pst file on client email. Why the client email can make this ?
[06:40] <_jason> tanuki_: this will help you setup the repository for java: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> njal: If you don't turn anything up, you may be comforted to hear that some people were saying yesterday that Broadcom support is greatly improved in Dapper, so you may have more luck soon.
[06:40] <Frogzoo> Rogerio: pst is an outlook format - best check google but don't like your chances...
[06:40] <njal> I am using dapper :(
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> njal: Dang.  Okay, then you should ask in #ubuntu+1.
[06:41] <njal> they ain't helping me
[06:41] <njal> i am here in ubuntu+1 and in mac
[06:41] <narzy> thats because they are hardcore ninja's
[06:41] <gnomefreak> njal: dapper is not supported in here
[06:41] <narzy> you have to fight for placement in there.
[06:42] <narzy> just find the biggest smelliest one, kick his ass and you should be in...
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> njal: You've seen the bot factoid to the forums, I'm sure.
[06:42] <Rogerio> other problem. I cant sync the palm with Evolution
[06:42] <njal> yep
[06:42] <tbender> gah, this shitty skype is making me crazy *rant*
[06:42] <ompaul> narzy, your offtopic for here
[06:42] <njal> i spend days just reading the fourms and nothing
[06:42] <narzy> no I was just telling njal how it was in #ubuntu+1
[06:42] <tanuki_> _jason, which version of java should i install?
[06:42] <njal> this is a last ditch attempt at trying to get this installed
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> njal: Try back here at various times of day; you have to catch just the right person, and there are a lot of timezones involved.  Good luck!
[06:42] <gnomefreak> language people please
[06:43] <ompaul> tbender, does it start (and easy with the language okay)
[06:43] <Zardiac> SOmetimes I have can write japanese in oowriter, but sometimes I cant.. I think it change when I do appgrades.. and after the latest uppgrade I cant write Japanese.. is there any way i can make it work by ,yself?
[06:43] <_jason> tanuki_: sun-j2re1.5
[06:43] <kleinlappies> hello there
[06:43] <narzy> njal Dapper is Alpha software, your bound to run in to problems with it, if you don't know how to deal with Alpha software I suggest sticking with the stable branches of things
[06:44] <kleinlappies> what is a good grafical pppoe program?
[06:44] <narzy> We can help you with Breezy in here.
[06:44] <tbender> ompaul: well, now I am using the static binary. I start it with artsdp -m skype. When I try to make a call it segfaults
[06:44] <gnomefreak> is there a such thing as a good pppoe program to start with?
[06:44] <tbender> or maybe artsdsp segfaults I cannot tell
[06:44] <tanuki_> can someone help me with installing a program from a tarball? i have no idea how
[06:45] <_jason> tanuki_: what program
[06:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tanuki_ about compile
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: First, what program?
[06:45] <tbender> if I start it with aoss it start well but, i cannot hear a sound
[06:45] <Codename_V> tanuki_: depends on what's it it.  if it's source code, ya untar it and compile it, and install it.
[06:45] <narzy> who had the ppoe question?'
[06:45] <crimsun> tbender: there's no way around that.
[06:45] <gnomefreak> narzy: kleinlappies did
[06:45] <ompaul> tbender, I would not try to get there from where you are, read the skype factoid from the bot and do it that way if you get stuck give us a yell
[06:46] <tanuki_> the software is adobe reader
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: No need.
[06:46] <gnomefreak> tanuki_: there are apps in repos for that
[06:46] <tanuki_> ah, like what
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: Enable multiverse and install acroread.
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> !multiverse
[06:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:46] <Codename_V> tanuki_: really.  any particular reason you want that app?  something along the lines of kpdf or envince would be better.
[06:46] <narzy> well I was going to tell kleinlappies System > Network but I was wrong, my bad.
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: Codename_V is also correct in that there are other apps.  Evince comes with Breezy by default.
[06:47] <sammylvz> ompaul how r u
[06:47] <ompaul> kleinlappies, I would do system administration networking (but I don't consider it good)
[06:47] <tanuki_> tonyyarusso, where do i find the evince app at?
[06:47] <kleinlappies> i have heard of rp-pppoe but i doesn't work only pppoeconf works.
[06:48] <gnomefreak> tanuki_: menu under graphics
[06:48] <sammylvz> ompaul: how r u?
[06:48] <kleinlappies> sorry i used rp-pppoe
[06:48] <gnomefreak> tanuki_: applications>graphics>evince
[06:48] <sammylvz> lala
[06:49] <derek_> gnomefreak: how to use pastebin ?
[06:49] <tbender> ompaul: the bot tells me not to use skype
[06:49] <ompaul> !skype
[06:49] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: (Why do I not have evince in my menu?  Very curious.)
[06:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell derek_ about pastebin
[06:49] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: dapper?
[06:49] <patrick52222> anyone know how to link webmin to apache2
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> tanuki_: Still, I think gnomefreak is right; if not, you can run from a term.
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Nope.
[06:49] <ompaul> tbender, see that second part there that is where you can get the package you want
[06:49] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: use the menu editor it should be there
[06:50] <tbender> well I'll stop crying this is dapper anyway
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: I know it should; I think it was before.  Could it be that installing acroread automatically removed it from the menu, b/c I did that.
[06:50] <gnomefreak> tbender: dapper is going to break no matter what anyone says
[06:50] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: could be a good reason and sounds likely
[06:51] <Codename_V> tonyyarusso: nah, that wouldn't happen
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: All right, got it back now anyway.
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> Codename_V: Do you have a better guess?
[06:51] <Panks> _jason: sorry for being late. I installed lm_sensors_2.9.1... but... how can I run it? I type in console "sensord", but nothing happens...
[06:51] <Codename_V> tonyyarusso: you run gnome?
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> Codename_V: Yes.
[06:51] <_jason> Panks: sorry, I've never used sensors
[06:52] <steffen> hi
[06:52] <Panks> _jason: oh... ok, thx anyway :)
[06:52] <Codename_V> tonyyarusso: then nope.  don't have a better guess.  I just know that's a bad guess is all.  =)
[06:52] <steffen> how do i log in as grapihal root ?
[06:52] <tanuki_> can someone tell me why my printer will not print?
[06:52] <Codename_V> steffen: why would you want to?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> Codename_V: Good enough for me today!
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Codename_V: why is it bad guess? installing some things uninstall others all the time
[06:52] <ompaul> !tell steffen about root
[06:53] <tbender> ompaul: do I get u right: I should build it on my own?
[06:53] <ompaul> steffen, read that page, it will tell you all you need to know
[06:53] <ompaul> tbender, no you should get the package from our friend seveas
[06:53] <steffen> ok
[06:53] <Codename_V> gnomefreak: news to me.  I've never had that happen on any distro, ever.  maybe I'm just not familiar with ubuntu then?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> steffen: please dont
[06:53] <tbender> ompaul: and it does work for dapper too?
[06:54] <Codename_V> tanuki_: linuxprinting.org is right nice for printers.
[06:54] <kleinlappies> rp-pppoe is a gui pppoe client is there any other like this?
[06:54] <tbender> ompaul: I know this is not for dapper
[06:54] <ompaul> tbender, no idea - if you want to talk about dapper ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:54] <gnomefreak> Codename_V: if a file is gonna conflict with one thats there it will get rid of one thats there
[06:54] <steffen> i have to log in as grapihal root i need to move a folder to a area that require root acces, and i dont no have to do i t from the terminal...
[06:54] <gnomefreak> or it wont install it
[06:55] <Panks> anyone here knows how to use lm_sensors ??
[06:55] <_jason> steffen: what folder?
[06:55] <Codename_V> steffen: I'd start learning the terminal a bit.  or you could just run nautilus as root I spose.  something along these lines: sudo nautilus
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Codename_V: For the record, it didn't uninstall Evince, it was merely set to non-visible in the menu.
[06:55] <patrick52222> anyone know how to link apache2 to webmin
[06:55] <Codename_V> Panks: you load the module, and run sensors_detect or whatever.  then run sensors or whatever.  it's pretty simple.
[06:55] <gnomefreak> gksudo nautilus
[06:56] <Codename_V> tonyyarusso: see.  it is a bad guess.  =)
[06:56] <Panks> Codename_V: module? where is it? sorry... i am begginer in linux-stuff :/
[06:56] <duelboot> how can I reload .bashrc w/o reboot?
[06:56] <s-ndh-c> duelboot:  source .bashrc?
[06:57] <steffen> thx that sudo nautiuls i a great idea
[06:57] <gnomefreak> steffen: use gksudo not sudo
[06:57] <duelboot> s-ndh-c:  yes, perfect, thx
[06:57] <Codename_V> Panks: where is it?  /lib/modules/ somewhere.  and I wouldn't know what it would be called off the top of my head.  but google could maybe help ya out there.  anyway, once you figure it out, you'd run "sudo modprobe foo", with foo being the name of the module.
[06:57] <gnomefreak> gksudo nautilus please
[06:57] <tanuki_> Codename_V, what do i do if my printer is not listed at that website?
[06:57] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[06:58] <Codename_V> tanuki_: dunno.  but that's a great website.  I'd imagine it's listed.
[06:58] <steffen> why ? by the way i prefer to do thing as root i dont really like the sudo thing
[06:58] <tanuki_> Codename_V, unfortunately it is not
[06:58] <Frogzoo> tanuki_: try google there's a few sites for cups drivers
[06:58] <Codename_V> tanuki_: alrighty.
[06:58] <Sh4d0x> does someone know the package gdesklet?
[06:58] <Codename_V> steffen: sudo does run things as root.
[06:58] <_jason> steffen: use gksudo for gui apps, gksudo nautilus
[06:59] <Panks> Codename_V: ... damn... i think it will be too complicated :/... do you know any good and simple-installation and usable program that shows my processor temperature?
[06:59] <Frogzoo> Panks: looked in /proc ?
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x: What about it?
[06:59] <steffen> i got my folder moved i will still enabling root
[06:59] <kleinlappies> is there another program like rp-pppoe???
[07:00] <Codename_V> Panks: no way around it.  you're gonna need the kernel involved.  so you're gonna need the appropriate modules.  and you're gonna need something that talks to the kernel.  and that's lm sensors.  although there is a few frontends to lmsensors.
[07:00] <Panks> Frogzoo: what?
[07:00] <Codename_V> Panks: there are a few frontends I mean.
[07:00] <gnomefreak> kleinlappies: apt-cache search rp-pppoe or just pppoe
[07:00] <Frogzoo> Panks: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ATF0/temperature
[07:00] <steffen> thx for the link i now got my self a grahipal root :)
[07:00] <kleinlappies> gnomefreak thanks gonna try that now
[07:00] <dale> what's up?
[07:00] <Panks> Codename_V: hmm...
[07:00] <Panks> Frogzoo: let me try this command
[07:01] <dale> You're weird
[07:01] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso: "sudo apt-get install gdesklet" only installs the package without die option it's offers, do you know the command that fixes you all the options so i should not go to the site and download them manually
[07:01] <dale> fjlsfjfjrkdfsd'dfkdhjfto
[07:01] <rambo3>  /j #winehq
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x: I believe it's an extra package along the lines of gdesklets-data.
[07:02] <Panks> Frogzoo: wtf... is this my processor temperature?
[07:02] <Frogzoo> Panks: I believe so
[07:03] <Sh4d0x> tonyyarusso, ow k, i'll take a look at it ... do you also know 3D desktop?
[07:03] <Panks> Frogzoo: cool... but i think it would be nice if that was shown in a graphical mode... :/
[07:03] <duelboot> sh4d0x, pkg is 3ddesktop...go figure
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> Sh4d0x: No, sorry.
[07:04] <Codename_V> Panks: yeah, guess Frogzoo is right.  this acpi stuff is new to me.  sorry.  =)
[07:04] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, i installed the package but how do i use it? it diddn't appears in the menu
[07:04] <duelboot> tonyyarusso, how's your day...good to see you again...
[07:04] <reaps> help guys I loaded ubuntu ..but when I reboot, cant load up windows
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> duelboot: Not bad, thanks.
[07:05] <duelboot> sh4d0x, hold on I'll install then tell you how to set it up...have used it before, just not on ubuntu
[07:05] <Panks> Codename_V: damn... i am so lost! hehehe... i just want a program that shows the processor temperature... simply like the damn windows :P
[07:05] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, thnx i'll wait
[07:05] <prospero2005> Here's the thing. once you load up ubuntu --you don't need windows anymore.
[07:05] <dereks__> how is the best way to mount a drive so all users have read/write access? what would the fstab entry lool like?
[07:05] <tanuki_> can someone please help me with printing in linux?>
[07:06] <prospero2005> cups print server
[07:06] <gnomefreak> !print
[07:06] <ubotu> hmm... print is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[07:06] <Codename_V> Panks: well like I say, there are programs that do that.  gui ones if you prefer.  you just need the functionality enabled in the kernel.  but heck.  it might be already.  have you even tried runing sensors_detect or whatever?
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> reaps: What happens when you try?
[07:06] <duelboot> prospero2005...yes you do, need to be reminded every now and then just how bad it could be :)
[07:06] <reaps> windows booting problems
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> reaps: Such as?
[07:07] <prospero2005> how do I send a private message like that duelboot?
[07:07] <reaps> hold on ...tony
[07:07] <prospero2005> Been a while since I've been on irc
[07:07] <Codename_V> dereks__: depends on the filesystem on the thing.
[07:07] <dereks__> Codename_V: ext3
[07:08] <Codename_V> dereks__: then you'd mount it, and run "sudo chmod 0777 /foo/bar/mountpoint"
[07:08] <Codename_V> dereks__: something along those lines at any rate.
[07:08] <reaps> root (hd0.0)  filesystem unknown, partiotion type0x7
[07:08] <reaps> savedefault
[07:08] <dereks__> Codename_V: that changes permissions, i want to mount it with those permissions
[07:08] <reaps> makeactive
[07:09] <reaps> chainloader
[07:09] <derek_> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11317 i don't understand about this
[07:09] <Codename_V> reaps: you'd use the chainloader directive for windows
[07:09] <Celestianpower> Can someone help me - I want to download something and there's a Red Hat one available. What do I do to make it work on Ubuntu?
[07:09] <Frogzoo> Panks: install emifreq-applet
[07:09] <duelboot> prospero2005, didn't send a private message.hmmmm
[07:09] <reaps> how do I do that codename
[07:09] <kleinlappies> does anyone know the package webmin-adsl?
[07:09] <_jason> derek_: is this for java?
[07:09] <Codename_V> Celestianpower: you don't.  not unless you're nuts anyhow.
[07:09] <prospero2005> duelboot It makes my machine beep
[07:09] <Celestianpower> Oh okay
[07:09] <krazykit> Celestianpower: you should first check around for a deb package, and failing that, alien will convert rpm to deb, as i recall
[07:09] <ompaul> Celestianpower, what program is it - we most likely have it alread
[07:09] <Codename_V> reaps: appears you already had it.
[07:09] <duelboot> prospero2005, cause I typed your name
[07:10] <prospero2005> duelboot thanks
[07:10] <Celestianpower> ompaul: I want a game boy emulator
[07:10] <gnomefreak> duelboot: or prospero2005 are your names registered and identified?
[07:10] <reaps> so what is the next step to get it back up
[07:10] <derek_> _jason: yes i still stuck there i don't know how to selecet the directory and install the file
[07:10] <ompaul> Celestianpower, which one?
[07:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell derek_ about javadebs
[07:10] <Celestianpower> ompaul: Any
[07:10] <duelboot> gnomefreak, registered where?  I'm on ubuntuforums, but not IRC...where should I go to register
[07:10] <_jason> derek_: the javadebs method is easier
[07:10] <Codename_V> reaps: what's it do exactly when you try and boot that grub entry?
[07:10] <Panks> Codename_V: the command "sensors_detect" does not exist
[07:10] <prospero2005> I love setting up live distros in vmware workstation.
[07:10] <Frogzoo> Panks: install emifreq-applet
[07:10] <Celestianpower> I found VBA on Google and that had a red hat version
[07:10] <reaps> root (hd0.0)  filesystem unknown, partiotion type0x7
[07:10] <Codename_V> Panks: could be ya need to install that then.  the lmsensors package I mean.
[07:10] <gnomefreak> duelboot: irc thats the only way to send pms
[07:11] <al3xanr0> how do I remove a broken package with affecting 289 deps?
[07:11] <prospero2005> It's like 'I'm bored' Set up a distro on vmware
[07:11] <duelboot> Sh4d0x, haven't forgotten about you
[07:11] <reaps> savedefault
[07:11] <Panks> Frogzoo: sudo apt-get emifreq-applet ?
[07:11] <Codename_V> Panks: or I just have the name of the app wrong.
[07:11] <reaps> makeactive
[07:11] <reaps> chainloader
[07:11] <duelboot> gnomefreak, I must be cause I can send and receive PMs
[07:11] <derek_> _jason: i am using5.04 version not 5.10 the step is it the same ?
[07:11] <Frogzoo> Panks: that applet displays temp 'sudo apt-get install emifreq-applet'
[07:11] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, k =D i'm still here
[07:11] <Codename_V> reaps: uh...you said that.  that's your grub configuration?  or what?  why are  you pasting that?'
[07:11] <_jason> derek_: now that's a good question.  Let me find out
[07:11] <tanuki_> _jason, are you still there? the enable java box still has not appeared in my preferences menu
[07:11] <ompaul> Celestianpower, do you know what Multiverse is? if not I get the bot to tell you, the program you want is gnuboy-x
[07:12] <reaps> that's what it sais when booting windows
[07:12] <_jason> tanuki_: it shouldn't, once you close java and start it again you should have java working
[07:12] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, i saw an glx movie on the net o_O it explained stome tools and stuff but omfg it did look even better than os X
[07:12] <_jason> Seveas: will your java debs work on hoary?
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> reaps: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[07:12] <duelboot> gnomefreak, where can I check to see where I'm registered?
[07:12] <any> Hi.
[07:12] <derek_> _jason: thanks a lot waiting for your reply ^^
[07:13] <any> I have a problem with gdm.
[07:13] <gnomefreak> duelboot: it looks like you are already
[07:13] <misieq> hi! i want to install kubuntu, however i have only kubuntu install cd and ubuntu install dvd (both are breezy). due to lack of space there is no gcc and numerous other useful packages on kubuntu cd. which is the better way to install kubuntu: install it from the dvd amd add kubuntu cd to apt and install kubuntu-desktop or rather start installation from kubuntu cd and install needed packages from ubuntu dvd?
[07:13] <reaps> how do I do that tonyyarusso..??
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> Has the console switching bug in fglrx been worked out yet, and if not, where can I track that?
[07:13] <tristanmike> misieq: was my way not good ?
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell reaps about pastebin
[07:13] <grievre> misieq: either one
[07:13] <_jason> derek_: ok i think they would, but just to be on the safe side I'll help you with what you were doing before by following the wiki instead.  Where did you download the .bin to?
[07:13] <Panks> Frogzoo: how do i run this emifreq?
[07:13] <any> When I log in nothing happen, gdm reask me for my username.
[07:13] <Celestianpower> ompaul: I installed it with Synaptic - now what?
[07:13] <reaps> yep there itgoes
[07:13] <gnomefreak> duelboot: in the server tab please type /msg nickserv identify and your password
[07:13] <grievre> misieq: although if you install from kubuntu first, it won't install gnome
[07:14] <Codename_V> reaps: ah, that's it.  been a whiles since I've done this.  you want rootnoverify
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> reaps: Just open it up in an editor (like Gedit), and copy it to that site.
[07:14] <grievre> I think
[07:14] <duelboot> sh4d0x, the command is 3ddesk (ubuntu autoloaded 3ddeskd for me and started it....man 3ddesk and do what it says
[07:14] <ompaul> any, most likely before you tell us what the problem is you can sort it with >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm<<  or >>system administration login screen setup
[07:14] <gnomefreak> i wanna see if it changes
[07:14] <_jason> tanuki_: working?
[07:14] <misieq> tristanmike: i want to choose the better way and i don't know what i want yet ;)
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> duelboot: Mine won't let me run it, 'cause I don't have acceleration :(
[07:14] <derek_> _jason: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp i am downloaded from this page
[07:14] <tanuki_> _jason, sorta, jave works but the applet i wanted to use failed.
[07:14] <_jason> derek_: but where did you put it?  on your desktop?
[07:14] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, i installed it already =) but dunno how to configure or use
[07:14] <misieq> tristanmike: therefore i have to ask here too
[07:14] <tristanmike> misieq: the thing you will see is that there are "many" ways but no "better" way, whatever works for you is great
[07:15] <ompaul> Celestianpower, no idea for that I am afraid, it might be on your games menu or you may want to invoke it from the command line (applications accessories terminal)
[07:15] <derek_> _jason yes
[07:15] <tristanmike> misieq: 10 people can give you 10 different answers :P
[07:15] <_jason> derek_: ok, 'cd ~/Desktop' make sure you use a capital D and then do that chmod command in the wiki and proceed with the rest
[07:15] <t1k3> im running 5.10 on dell latitude and the boot time takes forever. anyone know how to cut down on the boot time
[07:15] <ompaul> tristanmike, no 11 answers for 10 people (or is that only with economists)
[07:15] <_jason> tanuki_: but does this page work? http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[07:15] <al3xanr0> how do I remove a broken package without affecting 289 deps?
[07:16] <duelboot> sh4d0x, 'man 3dd3esk' in terminal
[07:16] <reaps> codename where do I get that..??
[07:16] <Frogzoo> Panks: right click on the task bar -> add to panel -> (scroll down to utility) cpu frequency monitor
[07:16] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, just a sec, i'll give it a try
[07:16] <duelboot> sh4d0x, 3ddesk will start it
[07:16] <gnomefreak> brb
[07:16] <modfcsk> hi, after i change a network setting, i does meself a /etc/init.d/networking restart - but i still cant see the changes i brought to say, the eth0 settings from network-admin
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> t1k3: You can try installing the bum package to configure what starts, I've also heard of 'initng', but haven't tried it.
[07:16] <Celestianpower> ompaul: Yeah, I thought I'd have to run it from the terminal - what command do I run - neither gnuboy nor gnuboy-x works
[07:16] <modfcsk> is there anyth else i need to do to apply changes to network settings?
[07:17] <Codename_V> reaps: where do you get that?  you want that in your grub configuration.  you need to simply read the dual boot howto that's floating around.  lemme see if I can hook it up here...
[07:17] <Codename_V> !dualboot
[07:17] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:17] <duelboot> gnomefreak, how can I do it automatically each time...BTW when I did what you said it sent me a PM with my password
[07:17] <Panks> Frogzoo: You will not be able to modify the frequency of your machine.  Your machine may be misconfigured or not have hardware support for CPU frequency scaling.
[07:17] <Codename_V> reaps: read that junk.  the first one.
[07:17] <reaps> ok
[07:17] <duelboot> gnomefreak, i've sent and received pms in the past
[07:17] <juztin> help!  my sound works in amarok, but not in any of my games!  :(
[07:18] <ompaul> Celestianpower, no idea I found it doing this: apt-cache policy gnuboy-x
[07:18] <Frogzoo> Panks: sure you got the one under 'utility'? the one under system hardware isn't it
[07:18] <Panks> Frogzoo: oh yeah, sorry
[07:19] <Frogzoo> Panks: oh i c - yes, that's going to be a problem
[07:19] <s_spiff> guys need helpw ith a problem..posted at : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154075
[07:19] <Panks> Frogzoo: but hey, a new error
[07:19] <Panks> Frogzoo: The applet didn't manage to find CpuFreq support in the sysfs. You need your kernel to have built-in support for CpuFreq or use the module corresponding to your processor type in order to run this applet.
[07:19] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, hmm i should bind a key to /usr/bin/3ddesk ... do you know how to bin apps to a key?
[07:19] <Frogzoo> Panks: darn
[07:19] <Panks> Frogzoo: ... :(
[07:20] <Codename_V> s_spiff: you have sun's java or whatever?
[07:20] <duelboot> sh4d0x, yes, I'm still trying to figure that one out, as it's not in keyboard shortcuts...dunno...yet
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> s_spiff: It might help you get attention for your problem to state the topic of the problem too, as few people are likely to check out every URL that passes through here.
[07:20] <Celestianpower> !tell Celestianpower about pastebin
[07:20] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, ok, i'll ask my friend google =D if i found it i'll tell ya
[07:20] <derek_> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11319 another problem coming out
[07:20] <s_spiff> Codename_V, i have both installed it hink
[07:20] <Celestianpower> ompaul: The output of that command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11320
[07:20] <duelboot> sh4d0x, yes google and jeves know all
[07:20] <Codename_V> s_spiff: it's in your path and whatnot?
[07:20] <s_spiff> tonyyarusso, its a problem regarding the java applications
[07:21] <s_spiff> Codename_V, didnt quite get u.. noob u c..
[07:21] <_jason> ubotu: tell derek_ about multiverse
[07:21] <_jason> derek_: you need multiverse
[07:22] <Codename_V> s_spiff: well, typically for sun's java, you'd need it in your path, meaning when the os searches for java, it can find sun java.  and you'd need some other stuff set up too.  like the variable JAVA_HOME or something, set to where sun java lives.  anyone have a tutorial on this for ubuntu?
[07:22] <s_spiff> sorry got disc..
[07:22] <Codename_V> s_spiff: huh?
[07:23] <derek_> _jason last time i refer to 1 guide just need to type in sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[07:23] <derek_> _jason but now the command seems like not working anymore
[07:23] <_jason> !info sun-j2re1.5 hoary
[07:23] <s_spiff> Codename_V, i installed j2re from apt-get
[07:23] <s_spiff>  and i think i installed jre1.5 from automatix..
[07:23] <s_spiff>  so its sorta scrwd up i think
[07:24] <Codename_V> s_spiff: well then it might just be a matter of setting it up now.  or get rid of the thing from automatix whatever that is.  sun is the one to go with.  least in my opinion.
[07:24] <_jason> derek_: you probably used an outside repo like seveas or plf or something, how is the current method going?
[07:25] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, i got it, i got a how to site
[07:25] <Codename_V> s_spiff: ah.  try this command: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:25] <DBO> liable, did you get annie's ssh working?
[07:26] <Frogzoo> Panks: ktemperature should work no probs...
[07:26] <Frogzoo> Panks: (fingers crossed)
[07:26] <Celestianpower> Anybody? I installed an application (gnuboy-x) using Synaptic - how do I run it?
[07:26] <reaps> ok guys tonyyarusso or codename this is what I got     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11321
[07:26] <DBO> morning frogzoo =), do you know if liable got annie's ssh working?
[07:26] <Panks> Frogzoo: sudo apt-get install ktemperature ?
[07:26] <derek_> _jason: about the multiverse i didn it right away after i finished installed ubuntu
[07:27] <rishi> Can anyone help me with dvd playback, my comp won't play the discs
[07:27] <_jason> derek_: can you put the content of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me a link please?
[07:27] <duelboot> sh4d0x, have fun
[07:27] <Frogzoo> Panks: yep
[07:27] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, don't you wanne know how to fix it?
[07:28] <rishi> i installed libdvdread3 and the libdvdcss or whatever, but it still won't work, any ideas?
[07:28] <duelboot> sh4d0x, nah, used it before, wasn't too impressed...guess I'm old fashioned
[07:28] <Panks> Frogzoo: oh boy! i guess it worked :D
[07:28] <Frogzoo> Panks: then run it 'ktemperature' - you should see it pop in the notifier panel - click on it & configure the path I gave you before
[07:29] <Frogzoo> Panks: oh - you running kde?
[07:29] <Panks> Frogzoo: no.. i am running gnome o_o
[07:29] <Codename_V> reaps: well as I said, you want rootnoverify.  change the root thingy to something like so: rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> reaps: First off, shouldn't that be root (hd0,0) rather than root (hd.0)?
[07:29] <Panks> Frogzoo: yeah, i've already configured to that folder
[07:29] <arrick> YES tonyyarusso
[07:29] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, ow, i saw some really nice tools, :( if i could only get into my windows gaim logs i could let you see the movie, it's very very cool
[07:29] <Panks> Frogzoo: the box is inside my system tray
[07:29] <arrick> hehe hi
[07:29] <Frogzoo> Panks: you might need to add it to start up programs in gnome to get it to startup
[07:30] <Panks> Frogzoo: how can i do this?
[07:30] <Codename_V> reaps: really you oughta read that dual boot tutorial though...
[07:30] <duelboot> sh4d0x, tempting...
[07:30] <reaps> ok I will try it again
[07:31] <Frogzoo> Panks: system -> prefs -> sessions -> startup programs - enter 'ktemperature'
[07:31] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, hold on a sec, i'll go searching for the link
[07:31] <davidleeroth> i have a microsoft intellimouse under ubuntu linux.  when i press the left side button, instead of going back in the browser window, it pastes my clipboard and opens windows.... is there anyway that i can reconfigure my mouse to act properly?
[07:31] <Panks> Frogzoo: order 50?
[07:31] <Celestianpower> Can one of you help me? I installed an application (gnuboy-x) using Synaptic - how do I run it?
[07:31] <arrick> ok ,so I installed xscorch, how do I get it to run, since it doesnt show up in my games?
[07:31] <Celestianpower> *please
[07:31] <Frogzoo> Panks: guess so
[07:31] <derek_> _jason: OH MY GOD my sources list is empty nothing at all
[07:31] <duelboot> davidleeroth, new install?
[07:31] <Codename_V> reaps: nevermind.  that dual boot tutorial has nothing about grub it seems.  so here's the deal.  open up /boot/grub/menu.lst.  find the windows section.  make it say rootnoverify.
[07:31] <rishi> Celestianpower, try typing in the gname of the program in terminal
[07:31] <stingerr> hey
[07:31] <reaps> Tonyyarusso yea ur rite..
[07:31] <stingerr> my network card (3c905B) does not work under ubuntu 5.10. i know for a fact that it is a kernel bug, solved in a newer kernel. how can i upgrade my kernel? i'm currently on 2.6.12, and have no direct internet access from the ubuntu box
[07:32] <Celestianpower> rishi: I did :(
[07:32] <Frogzoo> derek_: no biggie - just easysources & you're good to go
[07:32] <_jason> derek_: lies, can you paste the exact command you used?
[07:32] <Panks> Frogzoo: ok... hey man, thank you very much :)
[07:32] <davidleeroth> duelboot: I'm not going to reinstall my OS for a simple problem.
[07:32] <Codename_V> reaps: oh, and (hd0,0), assuming /dev/hda1 is windows.
[07:32] <rishi> Celestianpower, have you checked the menus?
[07:32] <Frogzoo> Panks: yw enjoy
[07:32] <molinero> !dapper
[07:32] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[07:32] <derek_> _jason: derek@Derek:~$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lis
[07:32] <duelboot> davidleeroth, no, I'm asking if you just installed
[07:32] <Frogzoo> !tell derek_ about easysources
[07:32] <_jason> derek_: you forgot the t at the end
[07:32] <Frogzoo> !tell derek_ about easysource
[07:32] <Panks> Frogzoo: :D
[07:32] <davidleeroth> o no, i've had this install for awhile
[07:32] <Celestianpower> rishi: Yes
[07:32] <arrick> thanks rishi. your advice helped me out on myquestion too
[07:33] <rishi> Celestianpower, that's weird
[07:33] <duelboot> davidleeroth, reinstalling OS is a MS solution, not Linux
[07:33] <davidleeroth> duelboot:  ;)
[07:33] <rishi> arrick, no problem man, glad i could help
[07:33] <Celestianpower> rishi: Yeah, that's what I thought
[07:33] <rishi> Celestianpower, what kind of a program is it
[07:33] <rishi> can anyone please help with dvd playback?!
[07:34] <_jason> !dvd
[07:34] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[07:34] <reaps> codename I open that in ubuntu ..
[07:34] <rishi> _jason, i used all that already
[07:34] <Celestianpower> rishi: It's a game boy emulator
[07:34] <rishi> Celestianpower, oh nice, DS?
[07:34] <prospero2005> I use kaffiene for dvd playback
[07:34] <prospero2005> I have dual monitors
[07:34] <prospero2005> I play poker on one and watch dvds in the other
[07:34] <Celestianpower> rishi: No, just GBA I think
[07:35] <Celestianpower> But it's no good if it doesn't work
[07:35] <gimmulf> How do i create an host-file so when accessing a websie in browser it will point to the ip in host file?
[07:35] <Codename_V> gimmulf: edit /etc/hosts
[07:35] <Celestianpower> Or I can't run it
[07:35] <derek_> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11322 i am such a noob i eaten the T
[07:35] <rishi> Celestianpower where did you install it to
[07:36] <Celestianpower> rishi: I just used Synaptic
[07:36] <_jason> rishi: then you have to be more specific about what dvd problem you are having
[07:36] <gimmulf> Codename_V:  what should i put there? the ip is 195.159.148.249  and website www.wsop.info
[07:36] <amorphous_> hi channel
[07:36] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, i got the link
[07:37] <_jason> derek_: everywhere you see ``universe'' without ``multiverse'' on a line, add `` multiverse'' to the end
[07:37] <Codename_V> gimmulf: dunno why you'd do that, but just copy something else that's in there.  something like this probably: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain
[07:37] <Sh4d0x> is it allowed to post links in here?
[07:37] <duelboot> sh4d0x, shoot
[07:37] <Sh4d0x> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwhI8fzsHac&search=science%20technology
[07:37] <amorphous_> I have an old ibm thinkpad 560... been looking at ways to install, but cant really decide which way to go. most docs seem to give up quite early on in the process?!?!
[07:38] <prospero2005> I've got a sources.list file that will give you everything under the sun. Want me to post it as a web page?
[07:38] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, if you have seen it, give me your oppinion about it :D
[07:38] <amorphous_> theres nocd or network.. but i have an old xircom wireless pcmcia...
[07:38] <ompaul> Celestianpower, well - here is the fun part what I intended to send you was: apt-cache search game | grep boy
[07:38] <amorphous_> my Q is...is this gona be a complete waste of time?
[07:38] <AndyR> hi all
[07:39] <cthulhu_> can anyone tell me how to boot from an iso
[07:39] <AndyR> does anyone know what forum ubuntuforums runs on?
[07:39] <_jason> derek_: I'm gonna be gone for a bit, if you have any more questions just explain to the channle that you are following the wiki guide for java and tell them your problem, gl
[07:39] <Celestianpower> ompaul: I see
[07:39] <AngryElf> i deleted /bin/ps........anybody know which package it's in so i can reinstall?
[07:39] <Celestianpower> I got a list of 3
[07:40] <AndyR> im looking to set a forum up for a local club
[07:40] <Frogzoo> AngryElf: procps
[07:40] <Frogzoo> AngryElf: (dpkg -S /bin/ps)
[07:40] <derek_> _jason: thanks dude
[07:40] <_jason> AndyR: look at the footer
[07:40] <Celestianpower> *4
[07:41] <ompaul> Celestianpower, remove the one you installed (sudo apt-get remove --purge gnuboy-x) and try installing one of the others and tray to start them from the command line
[07:41] <Protocol1> whats a good ftp client program for ubuntu?
[07:41] <Celestianpower> Protocol1: gFTP
[07:42] <Protocol1> ok....is that a standard pack with ubuntu or do I have to swap it from the internet?
[07:42] <AndyR> _jason, thank you vBulletin Version 3.5.3
[07:42] <Frogzoo> Protocol1: it's a pkg - but just 'apt-cache search ftp' & take your pick
[07:43] <Protocol1> ok thanks
[07:43] <duelboot> sh4d0x, very interesting, but unnecessary eye candy
[07:43] <Sh4d0x> duelboot, yes but still it's quite inpressive isn't it ?
[07:43] <amorphous_> Q: given that above - i've been trying to install server system onto the thinkpad hdd on my main ubunutu box - it runs fine on there, but has a kernel panic when i put it into the thinkpad. anyone know why?
[07:43] <duelboot> yepper
[07:44] <Celestianpower> ompaul: It's still not letting me issue the command
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: I believe you were the one who informed me this was a known bug before; do you have a bug tracking URL for the problem with console switching with fglrx?
[07:44] <Celestianpower> I tried visualboyadvance
[07:44] <AngryElf> is there a way to make a shell script pause for x seconds before it runs the next command?
[07:44] <krazykit> AngryElf: sleep
[07:44] <Paedrigh> What's the channel for Dapper, please?
[07:45] <ompaul> Celestianpower, well I have just tried all 4 and I am not getting any response so my next step is to go to google and put in gnuboy and see what comes back after tht i will try visual
[07:45] <Seveas> Paedrigh, #ubuntu+1
[07:45] <Paedrigh> thanx
[07:45] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, sec
[07:45] <dueyfinster> Hey all I have a question, How do I get Ubuntu to boot from a usb hdd? Where would I put grub? Is their a special (preinstalled) version I could get?
[07:45] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, bug 25701
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Thanks.
[07:46] <zblach> hi
[07:47] <zblach> software raid. anyone know anything?
[07:47] <Celestianpower> ompaul: Sods law is that the website is down isn't it?
[07:48] <Celestianpower> How ironic
[07:48] <ompaul> Celestianpower, well I have just gone looking at the source to read it and see if there are any clues
[07:48] <Celestianpower> ompaul: Cool :) Thanks so much!
[07:49] <irad> Can anyone take a look at the following screenshot and tell me what would be a solution to this?: http://www.arava.co.il/~infrared/snapshot1.png
[07:50] <Doomhammer> can anyone answer a (hopefully) quick question about dual monitors in linux ?
[07:50] <molinero> !dual monitors
[07:50] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, molinero
[07:50] <molinero> !monitors
[07:50] <ubotu> molinero: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:51] <irad> !WTF
[07:51] <ubotu> the INETRNET DAMNIT try freshmeat.net, linuxapps.com and tucows.com and then winge at /dev/null
[07:51] <irad> heh
[07:51] <Doomhammer> i've got it setup, it's just that it spans fullscreen apps across both displays... i want it to only use one for fullscreen apps
[07:51] <toxic_> Is it possible to make two groups owner of one file ?
[07:52] <spacey> toxic_: yes with acl's
[07:52] <toxic_> spacey, acl's ?
[07:52] <spacey> access control lists
[07:52] <spacey> you can enable it for your filesystem
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Hmm, those have similarities to my issue, but aren't exactly the same.  I'm encouraged by "Fixed in Dapper" at the bottom of a linked bug though.
[07:52] <spacey> and then you ahve some tools to set multiple ownerships
[07:52] <toxic_> spacey, oh ok, how do I enable them ?
[07:52] <ompaul> Celestianpower, it appears that you have to use some brains :-) that neither of showed any sign of having install one of those (the -x one should be good) then invoke it with gnuboy-x --help that should tell you all
[07:52] <toxic_> spacey, apt-get install acl ?
[07:53] <spacey> toxic_: look for docs, i think its in the wiki
[07:53] <molinero> !goobuntu
[07:53] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, molinero
[07:53] <toxic_> spacey, ok thanks
[07:53] <ompaul> Celestianpower, I rephrase it "neither of us showed any sign of having any"  :-)
[07:53] <spacey> toxic_: actually i cannot find it in the wiki myself
[07:53] <chamo> hello
[07:54] <toxic_> spacey, haha ok, perhaps google
[07:54] <Celestianpower> ompaul: I'm sorry - I don't understand
[07:54] <spacey> but there is probably a package which contains the tools. and iirc you have to add acl as parameter in fstab. but just google:)
[07:54] <toxic_> spacey, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_control_list
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone used gmailfs?  I don't seem to be able to figure it out.  (Maybe Google's wised up and blocked it?)
[07:54] <spacey> toxic_: http://tlug.dnho.net/?q=node/171
[07:55] <toxic_> spacey, great page, thanks alot
[07:55] <truz24> to verify, if i am running dual core i should be using smp kernel right?
[07:55] <truz24> amd dual core that is.
[07:56] <ompaul> Celestianpower, actually it is just plain silly
[07:56] <chamo> does anyone know if I can save the gnome top pannel layout easily and restore it later ?
[07:56] <spacey> truz24: yes, although in dapper all kernels have SMP support
[07:56] <truz24> ok
[07:56] <spacey> truz24: in breezy you have to install an -smp kernel
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> spacey: Really?
[07:56] <ompaul> Celestianpower, right join me in ##gnuboy
[07:56] <truz24> I installed breezy, and then i upgraded to dapper...
[07:56] <arne_> what is breezy
[07:56] <spacey> tonyyarusso: yeah, you don't have -smp kernels anymore
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> arne_: Version 5.10.
[07:57] <Celestianpower> ompaul: No problem
[07:57] <Breezy-CA> Breezy is the current stable Ubuntu release, v5.10
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> spacey: Cool.  Didn't know that.
[07:57] <chamo> arne_: breezy is the current stable version name
[07:57] <arne_> of wath
[07:57] <bthornton> Can anybody forward me to some instructions on how to replace my 64-bit Firefox with the 32-bit version (so I can install Flash, Java, etc.)?
[07:57] <arne_> ok
[07:57] <arne_> thanks
[07:57] <bthornton> on dapper
[07:57] <Doomhammer> when is dapper going to be made a stable release ? :S
[07:57] <spacey> truz24: then you should already see two cpu's if you do `cat /proc/cpuinfo`
[07:57] <tristanmike> June 1st
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Doomhammer: June 1.
[07:57] <Doomhammer> ah sweet :)
[07:57] <arne_> how do i make a sh password
[07:58] <josh__> !easysources
[07:58] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, josh__
[07:58] <truz24> spacey, no, i only see one.
[07:58] <bthornton> Doomhammer: Honestly, it seems stable enough to me already.
[07:58] <josh__> !sources list
[07:58] <spacey> truz24: what does `uname -a` say
[07:58] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, josh__
[07:58] <truz24> but then i figured they changed that to show only 1 for dual cores
[07:58] <spacey> truz24: ah maybe the 386 kernel doesn't have it
[07:58] <_jason> arne_: what is an sh password?
[07:58] <josh__> !sources
[07:58] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:58] <spacey> truz24: but the 686 does
[07:58] <dueyfinster> Hey all I have a question, How do I get Ubuntu to boot from a usb hdd? Where would I put grub? Is their a special (preinstalled) version I could get?
[07:58] <josh__> !easysource
[07:58] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:58] <truz24> spacey, 2.6.15-19-386 #1 PREEMPT
[07:59] <spacey> truz24: yep, so 383 is not smp enabled
[07:59] <krazykit> dueyfinster: in the installer, point it at the usb hard drive.  make sure grub installs on the usb hard drive.
[07:59] <spacey> but the others are
[07:59] <reaps> codename I change it to say rootnoverify  but no luck
[07:59] <truz24> I see.  Isn't 686 usually for p4's?
[07:59] <spacey> truz24: which cpu do you ahve?
[07:59] <krazykit> truz24: for everything after pentium-pro
[07:59] <spacey> if you have amd you can pick k7
[07:59] <truz24> Amd x2 3800+
[07:59] <reaps> it sais Booting Command list and the rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[08:00] <spacey> truz24: so pick the k7 kernel, although 686 should work as well afaik
[08:00] <bthornton> Any 64-bit Ubuntu users in here running Flash with Firefox?
[08:00] <truz24> ok
[08:00] <dueyfinster> krazykit: It trys to install grub on my internal hdd, so I told it to install on mountpoint, /dev/sdb1
[08:00] <Breezy-CA> I am seeing some weird USB mouse behavior in combination with activity on the  SCSI bus -- I just installed an old Adaptec card for the scanner I just picked up. When I power up the scanner, the mouse acceleration changes (slows down) and sometimes cannot be changed back even after the scanner is powered down. Is this a known issue or some peculiar ultimate USB vs SCSI deathmatch?
[08:01] <irad> !kondole
[08:01] <ubotu> irad: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:01] <irad> !konsole
[08:01] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, irad
[08:01] <krazykit> dueyfinster: then don't install grub at all.  boot into your computer, turn on the hard drive, and just run grub-install on your external drive
[08:01] <bthornton> !flash
[08:01] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:01] <bthornton> woohoo
[08:01] <irad> !kcm_konsole.la
[08:01] <ubotu> irad: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:01] <onkarshinde> What tool can I use to transfer a trailer in MOV format to iPod video?
[08:02] <phelipe> Ol! Alguem conhece algum programa para gerar grficos para GNU/Linux?
[08:02] <dueyfinster> krazykit: Ok thanks, will do
[08:02] <_jason> !pt
[08:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:02] <_jason> phelipe: gimp
[08:03] <phelipe> _jason, vlw! Gimp tbm gera grficos a partir de uma funo matemtica?
[08:03] <_jason> phelipe: aqui so podes falar em ingles.  Pergunta no #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt
[08:03] <_jason> phelipe: eu estou no #ubuntu-pt se tu queres
[08:04] <AngryElf> hey all, my sound card just took a dive, gnome is telling me that i "dont have the right GStreamer plugins installed or that you dont have a sound card configured"......it was working a couple days ago....what should i check on?
[08:04] <phelipe> _jason, ok, sorry. ehehheh =] 
[08:04] <dabaR> _jason: brazilian?
[08:04] <_jason> dabaR: portuguese
[08:04] <dabaR> _from portugal? pah for the _from...
[08:05] <_jason> dabaR: born there, I live in the states though
[08:05] <dabaR> _jason: hey, so how come you guys did not win the last euro cup in soccer, eh? just joking...
[08:05] <_jason> dabaR: please don't remind me :)
[08:06] <dabaR> :P
[08:06] <irad> Can anyone take a look at the following screenshot and tell me what would be a solution to this?: http://www.arava.co.il/~infrared/snapshot1.png
[08:07] <_jason> !find kcm_konsole.la
[08:07] <Linuxkid> hey everybody!
[08:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'kcm_konsole.la' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la) in kde/konsole.
[08:08] <dabaR> irad: what does "aptitude search konsole" return? show us the line for the konsole only one line...
[08:08] <_jason> irad: you should have that library, what does 'locate kcm_konsole.la' return?
[08:08] <irad> _jason: locate nothing
[08:08] <_jason> irad: reinstall konsole is what I would do
[08:09] <Breezy-CA> Forgive the repeat, but I am seeing some weird USB mouse behavior in combination with activity on the  SCSI bus -- I just installed an old Adaptec card for the scanner I just picked up. When I power up the scanner, the mouse acceleration changes (slows down) and sometimes cannot be changed back even after the scanner is powered down. Is this a known issue or some peculiar ultimate USB vs SCSI deathmatch?
[08:09] <reaps> Codename how long does it take after inputing those commands...
[08:10] <irad> _jason, how do i reinstall via xterm or something?
[08:10] <_jason> irad: sudo aptitude reinstall konsole
[08:10] <dabaR> irad: alt+ctrl+f1 for a console, then alt-ctrl-f7 to get back to x.
[08:10] <irad> what's aptitude does?
[08:11] <_jason> irad: it's a command line tool for installing packages
[08:11] <_jason> using apt
[08:11] <irad> okay
[08:13] <irad> _jason, still same error
[08:13] <irad> _jason, do i need to reboot x for it?
[08:15] <_jason> irad: no, what does 'sudo updatedb && locate kcm_konsole.la' say?
[08:15] <stingerr> my network card (3c905B) does not work under ubuntu 5.10. i know for a fact that it is a kernel bug, solved in a newer kernel. how can i upgrade my kernel? i'm currently on 2.6.12, and have no direct internet access from the ubuntu box
[08:16] <Linuxkid> hello?
[08:17] <Linuxkid> there are 709 users and this is it?!
[08:17] <Linuxkid> come on people
[08:17] <Linuxkid> seriously
[08:18] <Linuxkid> 711
[08:18] <Breezy-CA> Hello Linuxkid; what's up?
[08:18] <Linuxkid> hi
[08:18] <_jason> Linuxkid: 709 hi's would spam the channel :)
[08:18] <Linuxkid> heh
[08:18] <kleinlappies> does ubuntu use tools to cleanup the pc eg. winXP reg. scan and spyware?
[08:18] <Linuxkid> I don't think it needs to
[08:18] <Linuxkid> *too
[08:19] <green_earz> stingerr: i have 3com net card installed with the module 3C905B and all is ok here, the kernel is > 2.6.8-2-686
[08:19] <amorphous_> could anyone tell me the max likely patrition size readable by an old IBM Thinkpad 560 (1991); I think my partition is too big for it...
[08:19] <amorphous_> *partition
[08:19] <Breezy-CA> So Linuxkid - Other than greet`z ... did you want smthg?
[08:19] <Davey> kleinlappies: it doesn't need spyware and virus scanners, nor does it need defrag
[08:19] <irad> _jason, it returns nothung
[08:19] <Linuxkid> well I thought this would be like the forums right?
[08:19] <kleinlappies> davey thanks thaks nice, but why not defrag?
[08:19] <Linuxkid> just faster
[08:19] <Breezy-CA> Support then?
[08:20] <_jason> ls /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la
[08:20] <_jason> irad: ls /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la
[08:20] <Breezy-CA> So far, I've gotten help with just about every issue I've had here, faster than the forums
[08:20] <kleinlappies> Davey thanks thats nice, but why not defrag?
[08:20] <Davey> kleinlappies: the file system type does not suffer the same problems as the windows ones do
[08:20] <irad> ls: /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la: No such file or directory
[08:21] <amorphous_> anyone??? surely someone must know how big a partition can be in the 'good old days' of 40mB ram laptops?
[08:21] <Linuxkid> I'm here maybe to try to help people with problems (with their computer ;))
[08:21] <Breezy-CA> (Except my current USB mouse / SCSI scanner deathmatch ... so far ...)
[08:21] <green_earz> stingerr: check out the link to check the module name for the net card > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[08:21] <kleinlappies> Davey amazing thanks
[08:21] <fmasi> hi how do i add meny directories to a sigle tar file preserving all the ownership and permitions
[08:21] <stingerr> k green_earz
[08:21] <Linuxkid> I can't really ask much because I use dapper
[08:21] <green_earz> np
[08:21] <ompaul> Linuxkid, no this is a help channel, state the requirement, sit wait to see if anyone has an answer, we have a bot with lots of factoids, when we want to be offtopic for help we #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, I believe partition size is not directly related to RAM
[08:22] <Linuxkid> alright
[08:22] <ompaul> Linuxkid, so sit back and enjoy the ride :-)
[08:22] <Linuxkid> I'll still watch and see if I can help
[08:22] <Breezy-CA> So ... one last repeat ... I am seeing some weird USB mouse behavior in combination with activity on the  SCSI bus -- I just installed an old Adaptec card for the scanner I just picked up. When I power up the scanner, the mouse acceleration changes (slows down) and sometimes cannot be changed back even after the scanner is powered down. Is this a known issue or some peculiar ultimate USB vs SCSI deathmatch?
[08:22] <irad> _jason, ls: /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la: No such file or directory
[08:22] <stingerr> I  already know that I should be using the 3c59x module, and I am
[08:22] <fmasi> hi how do i add meny directories to a sigle tar file preserving all the ownership and permitions
[08:23] <_jason> irad: hrmm.... konsole package definitely provides that
[08:23] <fmasi> is it tar -cvvpf ?
[08:23] <amorphous_> no - but it gives a good idea of the age of the machine, Breezy-CA - you know how big would be a good bet on partition size in 1991?
[08:23] <ompaul> Breezy-CA, move the adaptec card to a different PCI slot, other than that, you could be watching a deathmatch if thats what its doing now :)
[08:23] <amorphous_> come on guys - help me out a little here...
[08:23] <Breezy-CA> t/y ompaul
[08:23] <AngryElf> could somebody help me troubleshoot my sound card gnome is telling me that i dont have a soundcard installed or the proper gstreamer plugin.....but it was working a couple days ago
[08:24] <_jason> irad: try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall konsole', maybe my aptitude understanding is not correct...
[08:24] <ompaul> amorphous_, measured in megs
[08:24] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_ - you're trying to guess size of an existing partition? How large is the HD itself?
[08:24] <Linuxkid> I guess that there was too little space to even make a partition
[08:25] <Linuxkid> 1 mb partition, 1 mb partition, and 1 mb partition
[08:25] <Linuxkid> lol
[08:25] <reaps> Help where do I open A terminal .. to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:25] <fmasi> hi how do i add meny directories to a sigle tar file preserving all the ownership and permitions is it whith tar cvvpf ???
[08:25] <_jason> reaps: applications > accessories > terminal
[08:25] <Linuxkid> accessories -- terminal
[08:26] <Linuxkid> gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:26] <irad> _jason, still same error
[08:26] <reaps> thanks...I wasnt asking the rite question...
[08:26] <Linuxkid> huh
[08:26] <_jason> irad: and I suppose ls /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la, returns the same?
[08:26] <Xatnet> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st
[08:26] <Linuxkid> oops
[08:26] <reaps> thanks...I wasnt asking the rite question...before i mean
[08:26] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_: maximum partition size is constrained by the file system not by the age of the computer ... am I making sense here? I wonder whether I properly understand what you're asking
[08:27] <irad> _jason: ls /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la
[08:27] <irad> _jason, ls: /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_konsole.la: No such file or directory
[08:27] <Linuxkid> what did you mean reaps?
[08:27] <ralpho> some computers had bios limits
[08:27] <_jason> irad: apt-cache policy konsole on pastebin please
[08:27] <Breezy-CA> Ohhh ... I see.
[08:28] <green_earz> stingerr: is the module installed ? lsmod | grep 3c59x      to see if its there, the 3com net cards work well with linux, so there should not be any problem ?
[08:28] <Breezy-CA> Hadn't thought about BIOS limits for awhile ... I've gotten old I guess.
[08:28] <IamEthos> has anyone gotten kxdocker to work with Gnome?
[08:28] <stingerr> green_earz: yeah its there
[08:28] <Linuxkid> reaps?
[08:28] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, if BIOS limits on partition size might be the issue - what BIOS and rev?
[08:28] <Breezy-CA> Maybe it can be flashed
[08:28] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, ompaul: it's got a 1.1Gb hdd... it's a 'pentium' processor - says no more than that in the bios - not found much online really...
[08:29] <irad> _jason, http://rafb.net/paste/results/yW5AfH77.html
[08:29] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, ompaul: Bios 91g1871 (08/02/96)
[08:29] <amorphous_> 1996 is older than it says on the box!!!
[08:30] <green_earz> stingerr: it may be the network config for the card thats the problem ?
[08:30] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, from the Bios
[08:30] <shadox> hello
[08:30] <_jason> irad: hrmm you are using kubuntu.org packages, let me download it and make sure it has the file
[08:30] <irad> _jason, okay
[08:31] <stingerr> green_earz: nah its fine
[08:31] <shadox> i was just installing the nvidia packages like it is said in the wiki page, but when i pressed ctrl alt backspace, it went totally wrong, now it seems that the xserver is crashe, how can i solve this problem?
[08:31] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, does that make any sense to you?
[08:31] <any> I get this error while testing the sound though gstreamer-properties: gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon': Could not open resource for writing. [esdsink.c(235): gst_esdsink_open (): /pipeline0/esdsink1:
[08:32] <green_earz> stingerr: i use this net card a lot with the 2.4 and the 2.6 kernel and all way ok, the net card you got may be broken some how ?
[08:32] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_ yes, but you're quite right; very little info online. I assume you've found the page detailing the different revs of the BIOS at ibm.com?
[08:33] <Breezy-CA> Doesn't tell you much...
[08:33] <Qantourisc> hi
[08:33] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, how d'you find that? i could find very little at ibm.com... got more from a slackware site...
[08:33] <shadox> can someone help me plls, i'm not in the mood for formatting my notebook, if so it will defenitly end against the wall
[08:34] <Qantourisc> What is a fine file browser ?
[08:34] <truz24> can someone update the flash wiki to show that there is a font issue when using macromedia's flash plugin?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> truz24: i dont have a font issue in flash
[08:34] <stingerr> green_earz: I already tested it with a newer kernel on another livecd and it works fine
[08:34] <truz24> gnomefreak, go to motogp.com
[08:34] <truz24> tell me if you can see the text
[08:34] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, Google cache
[08:35] <Breezy-CA> Can I post a URL here? Some channels don't like that ...
[08:35] <tanuki_> only if it is bewbies
[08:35] <_jason> irad: can you give me your deb line in your /etc/apt/sources.list that you use for kubuntu.org packages?
[08:35] <irad> oh
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Breezy-CA: URLs are okay, just not pastes of other stuff.
[08:35] <_jason> truz24: install gsfonts and gsfonts-x11
[08:35] <irad> i afraid i have 2, because i changed them to something else _jason
[08:35] <Breezy-CA> t/y tonyyarusso
[08:35] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:yqjt6pDCm_EJ:www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss%3Frs%3D0%26uid%3Dpsg1LWIK-3PEKQE%26loc%3Den_US+bios+91g1871&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
[08:36] <gnomefreak> truz24: i read everything fine
[08:36] <_jason> irad: can you just pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list then?
[08:36] <Breezy-CA> But there's not much info there.
[08:36] <shadox> :'( pls how can i fix my xserver, i remember there was a command to create a new x11 config file
[08:36] <green_earz> stingerr: dose the ubuntu livecd work with the card ?
[08:36] <truz24> _jason, that worked!
[08:36] <_jason> shadox: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[08:36] <truz24> can we get that added to the wiki ?
[08:36] <_jason> !listkeys flash
[08:36] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'flash' by key (4 shown): nosoundflash #DEL# ;; flashfonts ;; flashesd ;; flash.
[08:37] <irad> _jason http://rafb.net/paste/results/jz8dTV14.html
[08:37] <nick|here> i have compiled vanilla kernel with ck1 patchset according to howto in ubuntuforums.org but i can't mount my ntfs disks now
[08:37] <_jason> !flashfonts
[08:37] <stingerr> green_earz: I dont think it did
[08:37] <ubotu> _jason: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:37] <shadox> _jason thnQ very very much (l)
[08:37] <_jason> truz24: do you want to do it or shall I?
[08:37] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[08:37] <ubotu> [fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[08:37] <truz24> _jason, I didn't know that I would have access.
[08:37] <CiBoarder> Hello there.
[08:37] <_jason> truz24: you can create an account if you wish
[08:37] <truz24> I see
[08:37] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, I'm going on memory here, and that's not very reliable at all for me any more, but I *think* partition limits in the BIOS, not in the file system, were 1994/1995 or earlier. This BIOS is later and it may not have the limits I remember.
[08:38] <gnomefreak> _jason: hes gotta jump through loops to do it
[08:38] <gnomefreak> sign coc get pgp :(
[08:38] <green_earz> stingerr: i would say give the livecd a spin the check it out
[08:38] <_jason> truz24: ok I will add it in a sec
[08:38] <truz24> cool, thanks
[08:38] <stingerr> green_earz: ok I will now
[08:38] <AngryElf> hey all, it seems that when i middle click a tab in firefox it's pasting whatever i had copied into the URL instead of closing the tab....can this be changeD?
[08:39] <CiBoarder> Can someone help me to install the invidia driver ? Ich can user ubuntu in the moment just with 60herz.
[08:39] <truz24> _jason, i'm gonna try to register, if i can, i'll make the change.
[08:39] <gnomefreak> truz24: you will be there a while before you can change a wiki
[08:40] <truz24> You mean i have to have the account for X amount of time?
[08:40] <gnomefreak> truz24: id say atleast an hour
[08:40] <heero1711> Invidia? What nvidia chipset CiBoarder
[08:40] <truz24> ok
[08:40] <redyolk> AngryElf: Isn't that what middle clicking is supposed to do? hm..
[08:40] <gnomefreak> truz24: you have to get a pgp key than sign coc before you can edit the pages
[08:40] <AngryElf> not in firefox :(
[08:40] <truz24> I have a pgp key
[08:40] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[08:40] <truz24> :-)
[08:40] <krazykit> AngryElf: yeah, it can be changed with an extension.  tab mix plus, i think
[08:40] <truz24> I'm not that much of a noob
[08:40] <truz24> May sound like it...
[08:40] <krazykit> probably some other ones
[08:41] <CiBoarder> Im useing a 6800GT .. ive DLt the linux 32 Driver from the page, but the installer want something from me, and i dont know what he means ^^
[08:41] <truz24> Actually, I will need to create a new key for this email address anyway.  The one I have is for my work email.
[08:41] <Breezy-CA> I'm not a very sharp hardware guy, but IIRC the limitation imposed by the older BIOSes meant only that the /boot partition had to be in the first "x" number of cylinders ... is that correct info? amorphous_ - this is to your issue btw
[08:42] <tapox> Hi all. My DVD drive is busted, and I can't boot from USB. Is there some sort of install floppy that will download the rest of the packages from the net?
[08:42] <Paradoxx> 
[08:43] <AngryElf> thanx krazykit
[08:43] <_jason> irad: ok so I know the problem...
[08:43] <Alapzaj> estt
[08:43] <AngryElf> didn't have to go that route before, but it worked out
[08:43] <_jason> irad: still around?
[08:43] <irad> _jason ready and waiting
[08:43] <reaps> Help..why my keyboard doenst work when asking my password when I type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:44] <redyolk> How much trouble is likely to be involved getting the extra buttons on my fancy logitech mouse working usefully in ubuntu...  I'm hooked on the sidescrolling wheel when i use it in windows...
[08:44] <dooglus_> reaps: what makes you think it's not working?
[08:44] <reaps> nothing appears
[08:44] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, sorry - been reading... the info's probably correct, my understanding is a bit noob... (sorry). As theres no revision listed in the bios and, although ibm provide a link to the 'latest bios floppy', the link is dead so I cant upgrade the bios. Does this mean it's probably just a paperweight?
[08:44] <AngryElf> alright, last thing.......gnome isn't detecting my sound card........it had worked before.....how can i get gnome to redect it??   /dev/dsp exists
[08:44] <tapox> It's not showing you the password, reaps.
[08:44] <dooglus_> reaps: you want it to dispaly your password?
[08:44] <_jason> irad: I download the package and the file does not actually exist in the package, which is why you are having problems.  You should ask in #kubuntu to see how they have dealt with it
[08:45] <dooglus_> reaps: you gotta have faith
[08:45] <reaps> lol
[08:45] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, i hope not - but i have spent a full day of frustration and have still got nowhere :(...
[08:45] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, scroll back -- iirc a BIOS partition size limitation may not be a showstopper -- but I'm not sure my memory's correct on this
[08:45] <shadox> _jason: if i run the reconfiguration i always get stuck and the screen turns black
[08:45] <_jason> irad: that file does exist in earlier versions of the package (for instance mine from the breezy main repo has it)
[08:45] <_jason> shadox: weird, I've never seen that before
[08:45] <kbrooks> Breezy-CA, it isnt
[08:45] <Breezy-CA> t/y kbrooks
[08:46] <reaps> ahhh your great dooglus...
[08:46] <kbrooks> Breezy-CA, it just means that you cant make the boot partition too big
[08:46] <Breezy-CA> Um, kbrooks - "it isn't" a showstopper? or my memory isn't correct?
[08:46] <reaps> thanks..
[08:46] <Breezy-CA> :) You're speedy :)
[08:46] <irad> _jason, so i am on my own now right?
[08:46] <_jason> irad: nah, ask in #kubuntu.  I am sure they have experience with it
[08:47] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, - it looks to me like it should take it but---- hang on - did you say the !boot partition... does that mean that if I make the boot partition small then I should be ok? hang on - i'll try it!
[08:47] <shadox> _jason: at selecting the bit dept of the screen it falls back after a few minutes i the screen comes back up but with no result
[08:47] <irad> _jason, aight thanks
[08:47] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, what kbrooks said ... as long as /boot is in the first "x" number of cylinders that the BIOS supports -- and for this box, that's at least a gig, and /boot doesn't have to be that big -- then yes you should be OK
[08:47] <_jason> irad: you could always get the files from the older deb, but that;'s hackish and may not even work
[08:48] <_jason> shadox: your problem sounds too difficult for me, sorry
[08:48] <CiBoarder> one question: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[08:48] <CiBoarder>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[08:48] <CiBoarder>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH. <-- what does this mean :/
[08:48] <_jason> CiBoarder: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[08:49] <Eleaf> Is VMware the best linux virtualizor? lol
[08:49] <Eleaf> to run another os ontop.
[08:50] <CiBoarder> _jason:  thx he installes somethin after that i try it again
[08:50] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, well then i can't see why i'm having a problem putting the hdd into the laptop after installing server ubuntu on a desktop - it's unpacking the kernel then panicing, but it is unpacking the kernel - so it must be reading the hdd. right?
[08:50] <Eleaf> ??
[08:51] <toxic_> Where can I find ssh logs / people logged in to ssh ?
[08:51] <Seveas> toxic_, /var/log/auth.log
[08:51] <toxic_> Seveas, thanks
[08:51] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, yes, it's reading the HD, but if it's seeing a read at a location that the BIOS cannot get to, it presumably would blow a gasket
[08:51] <Eleaf> anybody know what the best virtualization program is?
[08:51] <rishi> Can i use any TTF font in linux?
[08:51] <Eleaf> If I want to run another distro on ubuntu?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rishi about font
[08:52] <rishi> gnomefreak, thanks
[08:52] <Eleaf> uhhgh
[08:52] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, did you make sure of a /boot partition smaller than the old HD was? I think you said 1 GB?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> rishi: yw
[08:52] <redyolk> How do I correctly instruct gnome to use my preferred window manager instead of Metacity?
[08:52] <ompaul> Eleaf, you can xen
[08:52] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, yeah - i'm using the 'old' hd.
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone used gmailfs who could explain it to me?
[08:53] <redyolk> (i've asked this q a lot and never got a straight answer, strangely)
[08:53] <gnomefreak> redyolk: doe it give you an option on login screen under sessions?
[08:53] <gnomefreak> does*
[08:53] <redyolk> hmm
[08:53] <Breezy-CA> amorphous_, sorry - I'm kind of at the limits of my rather poor knowledge
[08:53] <redyolk> now that you mention it, i'm not sure...
[08:53] <gnomefreak> i know with enlightenment i can log into gnome-enlightenment
[08:53] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html
[08:53] <Eleaf> ompaul, is xen-tools all I need to install?  I don't see the main xen program in apt
[08:53] <reaps> help .. I do i know the commands typed are saved in... sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: The instructions there don't seem to match the Breezy packages.
[08:54] <gnomefreak> and that will use enlightment wm instead of metacity
[08:54] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, ahhhhhh
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Yeah, been there, read that, still confused :P
[08:54] <Breezy-CA> bbl
[08:54] <Eleaf> ompaul, xen is just a virtual machine 'monitor?'
[08:54] <amorphous_> Breezy-CA, yr knowledge has been good - i'm trying 600mb root then giving up. it's got the better of me (not hard)
[08:54] <CiBoarder> So the binarys or so seams to work, but now i get You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[08:54] <CiBoarder>          installing. error :/ .. how can is exit this ?
[08:55] <reaps> help .. I do i know the commands typed are saved in... sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:55] <redyolk> gnomefreak: how about running gnome w/o nautilus?  i seldom find it desirable on my sluggish old machine
[08:55] <_jason> reaps: what?
[08:55] <avoine> hi, the ubuntu installation prosses use ncurse for the menu?
[08:55] <gnomefreak> redyolk: that im not even gonna guess on :(
[08:55] <Eleaf> ompaul, hello?
[08:55] <ompaul> Eleaf, not really,
[08:55] <Eleaf> ompaul, I don't see other than a program to monitor other machines and a livecd
[08:55] <redyolk> or is N* that much of a resource hog... it's certainly clumsy to use on a 400mhz laptop
[08:56] <Codename_V> avoine: something like that, yeah
[08:56] <rishi> How do i make it so any cd or usb i mount shows up on the desktop right away?  right now i have to go to the computer and double click the drive before it shows up on the desktop
[08:56] <ompaul> Eleaf, xen is what you want
[08:56] <ompaul> Eleaf, for distro on distro
[08:56] <nickrud> redyolk, there's a key in gconf-editor to tell nautilus not to draw the desktop (not start nautilus)  a sec
[08:56] <gnomefreak> redyolk: its kind of clumsy on a 450mhz too :(
[08:56] <Eleaf> ompaul, alright, I dont' see any way to install this other than source.  they only offer a livecd binary.
[08:56] <reaps> i typed some commands /boot/grub/meny.lst   How do I know there gonna saved to boot my windows
[08:57] <redyolk> gnomefreak: try links2... or better yet recompile links2 so you get ssl support and can use it properly
[08:57] <gnomefreak> redyolk: i use links2
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> rishi: I think it should do that by default, but check this: Open up Applications > System > Configuration Editor, and see if the key at apps > nautilus > desktop > show_drives (or something similar) is checked as true.
[08:57] <nickrud> redyolk, apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop , I think that'll give you what you're looking for
[08:57] <Codename_V> reaps: well gee, don't you think you could open it again and see if the changes are present?  can't believe you're still confused by this...
[08:57] <Eleaf> ompaul, do I want 'xen-tools' ?  That seems to be the only package but it's just tools to monitor other machines
[08:58] <ompaul> Eleaf, I can't remember its been a good while I found a faq on Xen on Debian it was rather easy once I had that in hand
[08:58] <troytroy> hi i am trying to install GRPS EASY INSTALL and getting error messages
[08:58] <reaps> nope there are not saved Codename...
[08:58] <Eleaf> mmk
[08:58] <McJerry> anyone have a program that can extract emai data and insert into mysql database......
[08:58] <troytroy> hi i am trying to install GRPS EASY INSTALL and getting error messages
[08:58] <gnomefreak> troytroy: never install something with the word easy in it lol j/k
[08:59] <Codename_V> reaps: then next time you oughta hit "save".
[08:59] <gnomefreak> troytroy: what errors
[08:59] <rishi> tonyyarusso, i don't have an Applications>System> configuration Editor...can i just go to gconf-editor from terminal?
[08:59] <Eleaf> ompaul, I guess I'm installing from their tgz package.  I hate whenever they don't give a way to uninstall, is my only option to remove every file it installs manually if I want this removed?
[08:59] <Codename_V> reaps: or what have you.  if this is really that confusing to you though, you could install gst (gnome system tool or something like that) and edit your grub configuration that way.
[08:59] <troytroy> gnomefreak: le me send u a screenshot
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> rishi: Yes.
[08:59] <gnomefreak> troytroy: paste the errors on pastebin please easier to read that way
[09:00] <Planker> i installed kde to test it out and decided i prefer the gnome desktop. is there an easy way to remove all of the programs that came along with kde? should i just delete the cd /usr/share/applications/kde directory?
[09:00] <Codename_V> reaps: if it's not already installed that is.
[09:00] <troytroy> gnomefreak: ok
[09:00] <rkalsi> Hi guys, I am unable to install firefox plugins
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> rishi: volumes_visible seems to be the one.
[09:00] <Codename_V> Planker: that's certainly the wrong way to go about it.  package managers are what you use to manage your software.
[09:00] <ompaul> Eleaf, checkinstall will allow you turn it into a package then you can use dpkg-reconfigure (I don't know which has the steeper curve - thats two processes both unknown for you ....)
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Planker: did you use apt-get or aptitude?
[09:00] <nickrud> Planker, uninstall libqt3-mt , that'll delete 99% of kde
[09:00] <reaps> ok
[09:00] <_jason> Planker: how did you install it?
[09:00] <troytroy> gnomefreak: give me the url
[09:00] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[09:00] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[09:00] <Planker> it was a while ago. i think i used apt-get
[09:01] <_jason> Planker: easiest way is what nickrud said then
[09:01] <gnomefreak> Planker: than do as nickrud suggested
[09:01] <rkalsi> I installed the a newer version of firefox, & now it wont install any extensions
[09:01] <rkalsi> any idea
[09:01] <rishi> tonyyarusso, there is no show drives or anything in nautilus
[09:01] <_jason> Planker: use aptitude in the future to install things
[09:01] <Planker> alright. thanks. i appreciate the help.
[09:01] <troytroy> !pastebin
[09:01] <ubotu> well, pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[09:01] <Planker> whats the difference between the two?
[09:01] <Eleaf> ompaul, I know about checkinstall, I barely use it though.  With xen it seems to be you have to load a special kernel and environment according to the documentation, I just wanna run it right on top of ubuntu..
[09:01] <MilaNL> My internet connection doesn't work in Dapper Drake..
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> rishi: nautilus > desktop, there is.
[09:01] <Codename_V> Planker: you sure kde is really hurting anything just sitting there?  I mean, how big of a hard drive are we talking about?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> Planker: aptitude handle packages better than apt-get
[09:01] <nickrud> Planker, aptitude remembers dependencies, and removes them if they aren't used by anything
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> rishi: volumes_visible is what it's called actuallly.
[09:01] <_jason> Planker: aptitude will keep track of dependencies.  So if you had used aptitude, a simple aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop would have worked
[09:01] <Planker> 20gig hard drive
[09:02] <rishi> tonyyarusso, oh, then yeah, its checked
[09:02] <ompaul> tonyyarusso,  http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/source/gmailfs
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> _jason: What's the aptitude equiv. of apt-get install --reinstall?
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Thanks.
[09:02] <redyolk> gnomefreak: I don't suppose you'd miraculously be on an old Thinkpad and have knowledge to share on getting their crabby little sound chips working?
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> rishi: Hrm.
[09:02] <Codename_V> Planker: it would waste a gig tops I figure.  probably not that big of a deal.
[09:02] <gnomefreak> redyolk: nope im on a desktop made by dell sorry :(
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> rishi: I'm not sure what else to check then.
[09:02] <_jason> tonyyarusso: aptitude reinstall
[09:02] <IamEthos> hey
[09:03] <IamEthos> I just tried installing KDE
[09:03] <rishi> tonyyarusso, what happens is that i have to open it in through places>computer, and then it shows up
[09:03] <redyolk> gnomefreak: Oh dear... I'm sorry for you too.  dell - yuck ;)
[09:03] <IamEthos> and I logged out to try to login and use it
[09:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> _jason: I must be blind reading --help, b/c I didn't see that.
[09:03] <IamEthos> and what do you know
[09:03] <ompaul> Eleaf, well then have a look at vmware - uml - or something that evades my mind - but you need a huge amount of ram for it
[09:03] <IamEthos> x won't start
[09:03] <maniak> hi , is here some czech ?
[09:03] <roostishaw> Also, how can I get firestarter to start at login, minimized, without asking for the root password? I already tried the guide in the firestarter faq, didn't work
[09:03] <IamEthos> and I'm stuck at a shell running irssi
[09:03] <_jason> tonyyarusso: you aren't blind, it's not there.  It's in the man though
[09:03] <Eleaf> thanks for helping ompaul
[09:03] <ompaul> Eleaf, yeap its called qemu
[09:03] <gnomefreak> IamEthos: what did you do last before restarting?
[09:03] <njal> ok
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> rishi: Odd.  Try asking again a bit later and see if someone knows.
[09:03] <IamEthos> installed KDE
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> _jason: ah.
[09:03] <MilaNL> Does anyone have an idea why my internet connectien isn't working in Dapper Drake after auto-upfdate?
[09:03] <rishi> tonyyarusso, okay, thanks.
[09:03] <IamEthos> and closed all of the programs that I had open
[09:03] <njal> this is a genric question, can i create a ISO image of my current Linux installation
[09:04] <IamEthos> I installed it using synaptic
[09:04] <reaps> Codename do u have a link for that tool....GST
[09:04] <njal> as I have a duel boot set up and would rather not have to go through everything i just went through
[09:04] <Codename_V> Planker: course I don't see why you couldn't use aptitude now, if it does like they say and removes all of kde in one shot.  if nothing else you'd use aptitude to install kde first (which would be no big deal since it's already installed), and then uninstall it.
[09:04] <gnomefreak> IamEthos: now thats new installing kde causes X to stop  can you log into gnome with X?
[09:04] <roostishaw> how can I get firestarter to start at login, minimized, without asking for the root password? I already tried the guide in the firestarter faq, didn't work
[09:04] <IamEthos> I don't even know how to start x
[09:04] <Codename_V> Planker: I'm assuming aptitude is some apt frontend here.
[09:04] <stgraber> You want the ETTV passwords, next ETTVs list, ... come on #Pr3dS.Gaming
[09:04] <gnomefreak> Planker: once installed with apt-get aptitude will not work
[09:05] <_jason> roostishaw: you don't need firestarter running to have your firewall on
[09:05] <o123mar> f
[09:05] <stgraber> sorry
[09:05] <khanman02> does anyone have the same problem with firefox, sometimes when selecting text your mouse gets stuck on the drag cursor, and it won't unstick, firefox take 100 percent cpu & then you must click like crazy or wait a min for firefox to stop sucking  up cpu...
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> Disregarding legality issues, is it possible to mod an install CD to have things like RestrictedFormats and such out of the box?  Would that be hard?
[09:05] <roostishaw> _jason, iknow, but i like to know when people try to connect
[09:05] <_jason> roostishaw: did you set it up so sudo doesn't ask you for a password when you run firestarter?
[09:05] <redyolk> khanman02: it happens to me all the time but i dont know how to fix it
[09:06] <IamEthos> how do I move between windows in IRSSI?
[09:06] <_jason> IamEthos: alt-# where # is a number
[09:06] <redyolk> IamEthos: ^N - next ^P - previous
[09:06] <troytroy> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11327
[09:06] <khanman02> i think it's a bug...
[09:06] <roostishaw> _jason, if you mean on startup... thats what im asking how to do
[09:06] <troytroy> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11327
[09:06] <khanman02> redyolk: i think it's a bug
[09:06] <Codename_V> gnomefreak: why?  when aptitude is just an apt frontend?  that makes no sense?
[09:07] <redyolk> IamEthos: /window move left (right, first, last) to resort the order of them if you like... and /window close to close'em...
[09:07] <_jason> roostishaw: I mean if you run 'gksudo firestarter' does it ask you for a password?
[09:07] <Codename_V> oops.  scratch that last question mark
[09:07] <MAPD> hey
[09:07] <MAPD> help pls
[09:07] <_jason> MAPD: just ask
[09:07] <MAPD> i tried
[09:07] <nickrud> Codename_V, aptitude maintains an additional database that apt does not see
[09:07] <troytroy> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11327
[09:07] <MAPD> to use the inst something .sh
[09:07] <redyolk> khanman02: Ive no idea but it's exasperating as i have to cut & paste text constantly from web info forms into terminals at work and i dont appreciate being stuck
[09:07] <gnomefreak> troytroy: what is that whewre did you get it
[09:07] <MAPD> for xgl and it updated me to 6.06
[09:07] <roostishaw> _jason, no it dosn't... btw, im running dapper
[09:08] <redyolk> maybe it's time to give kde a whirl and see how their nutty browser makes out
[09:08] <MAPD> now the script doesnt work i wanted to install xgl :(
[09:08] <gnomefreak> where even and troytroy only need the link one time
[09:08] <Codename_V> nickrud: which is why like I said, if nothing else you'd install some kde meta package first with aptitude, then remove it.
[09:08] <_jason> roostishaw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129798&highlight=firestarter+password
[09:08] <troytroy> gnomefreak: thats the screen shot u asked me to paste
[09:08] <gnomefreak> troytroy: is there a way to get more info on those errors from that app itself? like spicific errors
[09:08] <nickrud> Codename_V, it would be nice, but doesn't work :)
[09:08] <MAPD> help pls
[09:08] <khanman02> redyolk: what you could do is use epiphany, it works, better, i don't cut/paste a lot but i highlight text as i read, i think it has something to do with selecting text...
[09:08] <gnomefreak> specific
[09:09] <Codename_V> nickrud: alrighty.  guess I'll have to take your word on that.
[09:09] <_jason> !xgl
[09:09] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:09] <diesel> Can someone explain the difference between the hotplug and udev packages.  Right now I have udev installed, but not hotplug and my automounting does not work
[09:09] <troytroy> gnomefreak: do get u
[09:10] <Codename_V> diesel: I'd imagine udev simply manages things in /dev/
[09:10] <redyolk> links2 w/ tabbing would prtty much lock it in as far as i'm concerned...
[09:10] <troytroy> gnomefreak: u mean the application that i am trying to install
[09:10] <nickrud> Codename_V, aptitude only marks packages for automatic removal on initial installation, if it's already installed by apt-get it won't change the statu
[09:10] <gnomefreak> troytroy: i need the errors not what errored why did (this) error is what i need. where did you get the app from and please give me link so i can look at it
[09:11] <Codename_V> nickrud: well again, this is why I suggest installing some kde meta package first, before then trying to remove it.
[09:11] <IamEthos> okay
[09:11] <troytroy> gnomefreak: ok
[09:12] <troytroy> gnomefreak: http://easyconnect.linuxuser.hu/modules/index/
[09:13] <redyolk> gnomefreak: if you're using links2 maybe you can tell me... have you found a way to get the search box to be at the bottom or invisible or something like that, so i can SEE what i'm searching?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> What would be the apt line for a Debian repo?  (Yes, I'm aware of the risks involved.)
[09:13] <diesel> Codename_V: That is what I would think.  So why would installing hotplug want to remove udev
[09:13] <Codename_V> diesel: beats me.
[09:14] <troytroy> gnomefreak: http://easyconnect.linuxuser.hu/modules/index/
[09:14] <rkalsi> How do I update my firefox to latest ?
[09:14] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[09:14] <rkalsi> The install seems to always put in 1.0.7 (default in breezy!!)
[09:14] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:14] <drbreen> anyone her knwo how i can close tabs with middle click in konqueror ?
[09:15] <rkalsi> cheers gnomefreak
[09:15] <ivan013> helloo
[09:15] <roostishaw> _jason, i cant get it to work. how do i swich channels to the dapper channel?
[09:15] <ivan013> I have a one problem
[09:16] <gnomefreak> troytroy: hmmmmmmm i dont know did you install the needed perltk package? and is it compatible with your phone? if yes to both please go to that site and file a bugreport
[09:16] <Crazy_Man> does anyone know how to fix the error "failed to initialze core devices" when I startx?
[09:16] <Crazy_Man> (but when I checked xorg.conf against a working X, they were identical)
[09:16] <Crazy_Man> (it mentions errors with kbd and mouse)
[09:16] <ivan013> for yahoo messenger I don't cant call my friend ???PLZ HELP MY
[09:16] <gnomefreak> troytroy: that not being a ubuntu program than you more than likely not find anyone in here knowing
[09:17] <_jason> roostishaw: /join #ubuntu+1
[09:17] <jonas3> Im having problem downloading nepenthes, can't find it with apt-cache. I have enabled universe in apt-sources ! What ?
[09:17] <jonas3> todo ?
[09:17] <troytroy> gnomefreak: ok
[09:17] <Crazy_Man> jonas3: Have you "apt-get update "d?
[09:17] <troytroy> gnomefreak: so how can i support GPRS on Ubuntu?
[09:17] <jonas3> yeah, I have ran apt-get update
[09:18] <troytroy> so how can i support GPRS on Ubuntu?
[09:18] <jonas3> after I enables universe
[09:18] <Crazy_Man> jonas3: Try multiverse
[09:18] <jonas3> change universe to multiverse ?
[09:18] <Crazy_Man> no
[09:18] <Crazy_Man> add multiverse to those repos
[09:18] <Crazy_Man> as well as universe
[09:18] <gnomefreak> troytroy: i dont thin your going to its not a package suypported by ubuntu try thier channel i guess
[09:19] <jonas3> check apt-sources , both multiverse and universe ar enabled
[09:19] <ivan013> Crazy_Man:MY yahoo messenger ,I don't cant call my friend ?? PLZ HELP
[09:19] <jonas3> checked
[09:19] <troytroy> ok
[09:19] <drbreen> .
[09:20] <Crazy_Man> ivan013: I don't know
[09:21] <troytroy> i want to be able to view windows CHM files in ubuntu
[09:21] <troytroy> i want to be able to view windows CHM files in ubuntu
[09:21] <troytroy> i want to be able to view windows CHM files in ubuntu
[09:21] <molinero> !xgl
[09:21] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:21] <seth> Does anyone have a bcm4306 working with the bcm43xx driver in Dapper? I can iwlist scan and see my access point; dmesg says "wlan0: link becomes ready"; however, I can't connect to the access point.
[09:21] <jonas3> It's not there, can anyone find it ? apt-get update && apt-cache search nepenthes
[09:21] <Xenguy> !tell troytroy about repeat
[09:21] <LoCusF> seth: are you trying to use ndiswrapper?
[09:22] <ompaul> !patience
[09:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[09:22] <seth> LoCusF, no, hence I said "the bcm43xx driver"
[09:22] <Codename_V> !tell troytroy about not being an annoying idiot
[09:22] <Crazy_Man> jonas3: No...
[09:22] <LoCusF> seth: oh
[09:22] <seth> :)
[09:23] <_jason> troytroy: try xchm
[09:23] <troytroy> Codename_V: are u going to show me if not dont dice me ok
[09:24] <troytroy> _jason: ok
[09:24] <troytroy> does it come as default module in Breezy badger
[09:25] <_jason> !info xchm
[09:25] <ubotu> xchm: (Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2:0.9.8-5ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 221 kB, Installed size: 828 kB
[09:25] <troytroy> _jason: does it come as default module in Breezy badger
[09:25] <IamEthos> okay
[09:25] <ivan013> hei men help MY ??? what games run with ubuntu ??????????PLS HELP
[09:25] <IamEthos> a restart seemes to have fixed everything
[09:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ivan013 about games
[09:26] <jdong> I might be being stupid, but does xchat-gnome minimize completely to the systray the way xchat does?
[09:26] <ivan013> my ID messenger is :ionut013@yahoo.com PLZ help my !!!
[09:27] <Codename_V> troytroy: I guess when you hang around on irc as much as I do, certain things just really get to you.  anyhow.  other people are telling ya not to repeat yourself 20 times and thus annoy everyone, albiet telling you in a much nicer way.
[09:27] <ompaul> ivan013, read the message from ubotu it will help
[09:27] <ompaul> jdong, one would imagine so :-) ask in #ubuntu+1 cos some of them are using it
[09:28] <troytroy> Codename_V: ok please so how can i view chm files please
[09:28] <chris_> is DBO here? :)
[09:28] <tkup> troytroy, sudo apt-get install xchm
[09:28] <Linuxkid> I'm using it
[09:28] <jdong> ompaul, will do
[09:29] <troytroy> tkup: thks bro seems u the one who always comes to my rescue
[09:29] <ralpho> what is chm
[09:29] <ompaul> ralpho, some windows stuff
[09:29] <michael__> ipcofig equivilant in linux was??
[09:29] <ralpho> dont need that
[09:30] <tsw> michael__: ifconfig
[09:30] <nickrud> michael__, ifconfig
[09:30] <michael__> ty
[09:30] <Munchkinguy> When trying to install Mplayer, the strangest thing happens.
[09:30] <_jason> Munchkinguy: like what?
[09:31] <Munchkinguy> "Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[09:31] <Munchkinguy> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[09:31] <Munchkinguy> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[09:31] <chris_> is there a way to bring up a windows desktop with linux? over a network :P
[09:31] <Munchkinguy> or been moved out of Incoming.
[09:31] <Munchkinguy> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[09:31] <Munchkinguy> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[09:31] <Munchkinguy> that package should be filed.
[09:31] <chris_> samba is working :)
[09:31] <Munchkinguy> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[09:31] <_jason> Munchkinguy: pastebin please
[09:31] <Munchkinguy> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:31] <tsw> !paste
[09:31] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[09:31] <Munchkinguy>   mplayer-586: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[09:31] <Munchkinguy>                Depends: libsvga1 but it is not installable or
[09:31] <Munchkinguy>                         svgalib-dummyg1 but it is not installable"
[09:31] <_jason> Munchkinguy: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a url please
[09:32] <ompaul> Munchkinguy, NEVER paste in here again  read _jason's message thanks
[09:32] <Munchkinguy> sorry
[09:32] <chris_> Can Ubuntu Terminal Server Work For Windows xp?
[09:32] <jonas3> why can't I find this package in my Ubuntu ?? http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/net/nepenthes ?
[09:32] <jonas3> what is dapper ?
[09:32] <_robert> Can anyone help me with some screen resolution issues, I can't get it above 640x480
[09:33] <_jason> !dapper
[09:33] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell _robert about fixres
[09:33] <Joetheodd> !sun java
[09:33] <ubotu> Joetheodd: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:34] <Codename_V> chris_: dont see why not
[09:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell Joetheodd about java
[09:34] <chris_> Can Ubuntu Terminal Server Work with Windows xp?
[09:34] <chris_> how codename_v
[09:34] <Munchkinguy> _jason: see my sources.list on #flood
[09:34] <Codename_V> chris_: depending on what you mean by "work"
[09:34] <jonas3> ok, so the package is only in dapper, I have to wait until it's realeased or can I start using it already by changing my apt-sources ?
[09:34] <_robert> Thanks jason
[09:34] <chris_> work meaning showing the windows desktop on my linux laptop
[09:34] <ompaul> Munchkinguy, that does not work historically that is why we use a web page - persistance
[09:34] <chris_> samba is working fine
[09:34] <chris_> all thanks to EBO
[09:34] <Codename_V> chris_: in that case you'd want an rdp client or vnc client.
[09:35] <troytroy> totem movie player cannot start up any idea?
[09:35] <chris_> Whats the difference?
[09:35] <Codename_V> chris_: linux terminal server would have nothing to do with that.
[09:35] <Breezy-CA> jonas3, you could possibly backport the package, or you could upgrade to dapper (I have not done that yet so can't speak to stability), or you could wait
[09:35] <chris_> What do you perfer?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> ompaul: may i pm you for a sec?
[09:35] <Codename_V> chris_: me?  I prefer freenx.  but that's unix only.
[09:35] <ompaul> gnomefreak, be my guest
[09:35] <_jason> Codename_V: is it?
[09:35] <chris_> I want to see my windows desktop on Linux, with a network computer
[09:35] <Codename_V> chris_: I'd go with rdp if we're talking windows.  but that would mean you'd need windows terminal services running.
[09:36] <chris_> ok
[09:36] <chris_> how do i get it running?
[09:36] <Codename_V> _jason: well the free stuff for sure.  I dunno, nomachine might put out a windows server.
[09:36] <troytroy> thup: totem movie player cannot start up any idea?
[09:36] <chris_> have windows xp professional sp2 installed over network
[09:36] <Codename_V> chris_: your best best would be to run a vnc server on windows probably.  tightvnc is what I'd recommend.
[09:36] <troytroy> tkup: totem movie player cannot start up any idea?
[09:36] <_jason> Codename_V: ah yes
[09:36] <chris_> tightvnc where do i get that?
[09:37] <Codename_V> chris_: I'm not gonna hold your hand that much buddy.
[09:37] <gnomefreak> troytroy: asking more than once in that short of time is not gonna get you answered
[09:37] <Codename_V> chris_: google.com if you're not aware.
[09:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell Munchkinguy about easysource
[09:37] <chris_> ill google it codename_v ill google it
[09:37] <chris_> :)
[09:37] <gnomefreak> !tightvnc
[09:37] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[09:37] <chris_> and you will be bak :)
[09:37] <gnomefreak> chris_: hold on
[09:37] <chris_> ok
[09:37] <troytroy> gnomefreak: yes master
[09:38] <_jason> Munchkinguy: make yourself a nice new /etc/apt/sources.list to replace yours and make sure you enable universe and multiverse (community supported)
[09:38] <truz24> _jason, i updated the wiki with the font info, there was a line about the fonts, but i separated it to make it more clear
[09:38] <chris_> ganomefreak , holding on
[09:38] <gnomefreak> chris_: heres this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VNC?highlight=%28vnc%29
[09:38] <Breezy-CA> !easysource
[09:39] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:39] <_jason> truz24: I see it, nice job
[09:39] <truz24> thx
[09:39] <chris_> ok thanks gnomefreak!
[09:39] <reter> i have no internet on my ubuntu. how can i get it
[09:40] <gnomefreak> chris_: http://marc.abramowitz.info/archives/2006/02/17/tightvnc-on-ubuntu/
[09:41] <Munchkinguy> _jason: thank you
[09:41] <chris_> gnomefreak thats not for windows
[09:41] <TestDrivenBug> Hi, is there a clean (supported) way to get mysql5 running on current stable?
[09:41] <chris_> wont work with both
[09:41] <Codename_V> chris_: well you would need the viewer of course.
[09:41] <gnomefreak> chris_: you want vnc for windows or to use to access your windows?
[09:41] <chris_> i want to acess windows on linux
[09:42] <chris_> and take full control :)
[09:42] <reter> does anyone know how to get internet on ubuntu?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> chris_: tightvnc
[09:42] <jonas3> How do I upgrade to drapper ?
[09:42] <chris_> tightvnc for windows or linux?
[09:42] <IdleOne> !dapper
[09:42] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:42] <IYY> problem: sound doesn't work for any users other than the first one
[09:42] <_jason> !upgrade
[09:42] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[09:42] <nickrud> reter, I know a couple of protocols, what type are you trying to set up?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> jonas3: you dont you upgrade to dapper
[09:42] <Codename_V> reter: slap a network card in your machine.  make sure the kernel is loading the module you need.  make sure the init scripts are configuring your card.  you're set.
[09:42] <_jason> IYY: that's intended, only users in the 'admin' group get sudo privileges
[09:42] <gnomefreak> chris_: for linux
[09:43] <scav-> reter, how is your setup ? could be thousant of possibilites
[09:43] <nickrud> Codename_V, lol
[09:43] <Codename_V> seriously though, ubuntu doesn't have some sorta gui thing for doing network cards?  seems like that would kinda help out.
[09:43] <chris_> ok using synaptic package manager
[09:43] <ompaul> jonas3, head into #ubuntu+1 if you want to talk to people who have done that
[09:43] <reter> i have breezy
[09:43] <reter> i am on dsl
[09:43] <_jason> IYY: so just do 'sudo adduser foo admin' where foo is your other user
[09:43] <AngryElf> how do i edit firewall or SElinux settings in ubuntu?
[09:43] <kosnick> hi all
[09:43] <nickrud> reter, pppoeconf
[09:43] <IYY> _jason: but what does that have to do with sound?
[09:43] <reter> what if the script is not loading
[09:43] <eugman> Is there a command to go up one level when in bash?
[09:43] <nickrud> reter, most likely
[09:44] <eugman> a file level that is
[09:44] <Linuxkid> codename_v: dapper has it
[09:44] <ralpho> system admin networking in dapper
[09:44] <_jason> IYY: haha, wow ok I am taking a break now.  Ignore what I said.  They need to be in the 'audio' group probably
[09:44] <tsw> eugman: cd .. ?
[09:44] <eugman> like go from /bob/what/ to just /bob/
[09:44] <Codename_V> Linuxkid: dapper being the up and coming incarnation of ubuntu?
[09:44] <Linuxkid> yes
[09:44] <IYY> cd ..
[09:44] <gnomefreak> eugman: use the cd command
[09:44] <Linuxkid> it's what I use
[09:44] <redyolk> Sound question here...
[09:44] <Linuxkid> or
[09:44] <vdepizzol> why ubuntu doesn't use tango desktop project?
[09:44] <eugman> So I have to type up the whole directory?
[09:44] <Linuxkid> you could try it for yourself on breezy
[09:44] <kosnick> eugman : "cd .."
[09:44] <crimsun> vdepizzol: Dapper uses components from Tango.
[09:44] <Codename_V> vdepizzol: because nobody even knows what that is?
[09:45] <witless> i'm trying to boot a dapper livecd (6.04) - "mounting root filesystem" fails with this message:  "can not mount /dev/loop0 on /rofs"
[09:45] <troytroy> how do i get mplayer
[09:45] <gnomefreak> witless: please join #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[09:45] <IYY> vdepizzol: they kinda do. the new dapper icon theme is quite tango-like
[09:45] <chris_> what ones do i get? tightvnc-java? tightvncserver? vnc-java? xtightvncviewer?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell troytroy about mplayer
[09:45] <chris_> all of them?
[09:45] <Codename_V> chris_: the viewer
[09:45] <vdepizzol> Codename_V: http://tango-project.org/
[09:45] <chris_> xncviewer is checked
[09:45] <witless> gnomefreak: thanks
[09:45] <redyolk> I've got the speaker icon looking good but when I try a test with the multimedia selector, it complains (under any output sink) "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'"
[09:45] <vdepizzol> thank's
[09:45] <Linuxkid> codename_v: synaptic package manager -- network-manager and nm-applet
[09:45] <chris_> xvncviewer is checked*
[09:45] <chris_> in ubuntu icon
[09:46] <ralpho> why does it think the files system is read only
[09:46] <AngryElf> how do i edit firewall or SElinux settings in ubuntu?
[09:46] <Codename_V> chris_: so you're set
[09:46] <chris_> ok lets begin!
[09:46] <chris_> :)
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ralpho: beacuse it is unless you use sudo
[09:46] <crimsun> AngryElf: neither are enabled by default, so you'd do it manually.
[09:46] <kosnick> ralpho : is the filesystem a ntfs or  ufs?
[09:46] <Codename_V> AngryElf: selinux.  sounds like a long road to hoe.  firewall, I've always been partial to bastille.
[09:46] <ralpho> ntfs
[09:46] <vdepizzol> how I can view an Fat32 partition in ubuntu? It's just mount it?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[09:46] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:46] <crimsun> redyolk: for default audio sink?
[09:46] <Linuxkid> yeo
[09:46] <Linuxkid> just mount it
[09:47] <gnomefreak> !fat
[09:47] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <kosnick> ralpho : i guess thats why , linux cannot write on ntfs only read it
[09:47] <gnomefreak> !fat32
[09:47] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:47] <chris_> codename_v whenever your ready
[09:47] <gnomefreak> vdepizzol: ^^^
[09:47] <Codename_V> kosnick: I hear it works pretty darn well with captive ntfs
[09:47] <ralpho> recompile kernel tick off write
[09:47] <Codename_V> chris_: say what?
[09:47] <vdepizzol> thank you
[09:48] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:48] <chris_> i have vnc . . i am not sure how to set it up my windows remote assaistence
[09:48] <redyolk> crimsun: Yea, for any of the three I can choose from - OSS, ESD, ALSA
[09:48] <chris_> i want to bring windows into vnc for linux
[09:48] <kosnick> Codename_V : sorry english are not my native , what do you mean? can linux also read ntfs?
[09:48] <michael__> Where are my caudium files located?
[09:48] <Codename_V> chris_: install it, run it.  that's about it.  I mean.  what do you want from me here?  read the manual if you can't figure it out.
[09:48] <chris_> how do i run it?
[09:49] <ralpho>  it can read it
[09:49] <gnomefreak> chris_: i gave you a site for tightvnc already didnt care to read it?
[09:49] <crimsun> redyolk: pastebin: lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0
[09:49] <chris_> :/ ok ill do my best
[09:49] <nickrud> michael__, dpkg -L caudium
[09:49] <chris_> thanks
[09:49] <Codename_V> chris_: it's really not that hard man.  like I say, you simply install it and run it.  there shouldn't really be a need to read anything.
[09:49] <Codename_V> then fire up the viewer, point it at your windows machine and presto
[09:50] <Codename_V> kosnick: yep.  basically it takes the drivers from a windows machine and uses those.
[09:50] <Codename_V> kosnick: captive ntfs
[09:50] <kosnick> Codename_V : can i check it with man pages
[09:50] <caglar> what do I have to add to the xorg.conf file to get the char ^ once if I press it twice?
[09:50] <reter> pppoeconf did not work
[09:50] <Codename_V> kosnick: doubt it.  but they have a website I'm sure.
[09:51] <reter> its not detecting the ethernet card
[09:51] <kosnick> Codename_V : do you know the site? or should i google it?
[09:51] <Codename_V> kosnick: off the top of my head, captive-ntfs.sf.net
[09:51] <kosnick> Codename_V : thanks
[09:51] <nickrud> reter, try lspci in a terminal, does that show your network card?
[09:52] <paulmer2003> How do I set up network devices on this crap they call Ubuntu?\
[09:52] <squiddle> caglar  do you know if this is even possible? just press it one and then space or use nodeadkeys, then it woul come on press one (so you can't compose anymore)
[09:52] <paulmer2003> DHCP is fucked; I would like to set it up by hand...
[09:52] <Codename_V> squiddle: sounds more like some accessibility features to me.
[09:52] <crimsun> paulmer2003: man 5 interfaces
[09:52] <reter> nickrod, it shows ethernet controller
[09:52] <chris_> Codename_V do i have to do anything in windows?
[09:52] <ompaul> paulmer2003, your language is not going to get you help
[09:52] <paulmer2003> Doing ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.16;route add default gw 192.168.1.16 eth0
[09:52] <Rayman> What's the difference betweek ubuntu x86 an ubuntu amd64?
[09:53] <caglar> squiddle: i WANT to get one if I press it twice
[09:53] <paulmer2003> Gets quite annoying
[09:53] <chris_> typed in niekie (n=niekie@niekie/unaffiliated) has joined #ubuntu
[09:53] <chris_> Codename_V kosnick: off the top of my head, captive-ntfs.sf.net
[09:53] <chris_> nickrud reter, try lspci in a terminal, does that show your network card?
[09:53] <chris_> kosnick Codename_V : thanks
[09:53] <chris_> * paulmer2003 (n=das@c-24-4-110-9.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #ubuntu
[09:53] <chris_> * wen
[09:53] <Codename_V> chris_: as I said, run the tight vnc server.
[09:53] <gnomefreak> chris_: dont paste in here
[09:53] <Rayman> is it only the kernel or all all the packages built to 64bit arch too?
[09:53] <ralpho> x86 works
[09:53] <chris_> sorry
[09:53] <chris_> vncviewer 10.0.1.34
[09:53] <chris_>  i typed in
[09:53] <reter> chris, it shows ethernet controller
[09:53] <squiddle> caglar  so you do not know if it is possible? cause AFAIK it isn't but i'm not sure
[09:54] <chris_> how do i change it to wireless?
[09:54] <redyolk> wow gterm's not letting me cut & paste grrr
[09:54] <Khaaaan> Hey guys, how do I install a different GNOME splashscreen?
[09:54] <caglar> squiddle: I found my problem, It was the setting in gnomes "keyboard" tool
[09:54] <gnomefreak> bbl
[09:54] <ralpho> all pack
[09:54] <paulmer2003> god
[09:54] <ralpho> I have a pavillian 64 bit but the 64 bit ver will not boot on my machine
[09:54] <squiddle> caglar  which option is it?
[09:54] <paulmer2003> your interfaces thing is quite confusing
[09:55] <paulmer2003> pos
[09:55] <niekie> chris_ seems to have highlighted me, but the message scrolled of :\
[09:55] <xitrium> hi, i'm trying to help a friend compile the latest ndiswrapper, and I have no idea how to get the config or the Module.symvers out of the kernel.
[09:55] <Codename_V> ralpho: update your bios perhaps.
[09:55] <paulmer2003> god if only my friend would have let me install openbsd..
[09:55] <ralpho> did that
[09:55] <caglar> uhm, what could be the problem: when I use my mouse wheel too fast, X recognizes the wheel inputs as a normal click, but this is very rarely
[09:55] <Breezy-CA> Cheese with that?
[09:55] <Stormx2> Could someone give me what they get when they open "gstreamer-properties", default sink/source?
[09:55] <Breezy-CA> What would be the lowest-cost way to back up some 75GB of /home, anyone?
[09:55] <Khaaaan> Does anyone know how??
[09:56] <ralpho> thereis a lot of stuff that still dont work in 64 bit so i will wait
[09:56] <Codename_V> paulmer2003: try leaving the nonsense at the door is what I'd suggest.
[09:56] <ralpho> i had gentoo 64 working
[09:56] <chris_> just need to know VNC over wireless , Linux connceting to a windows pc over network
[09:56] <paulmer2003> How do I set it to start apache2 on start?
[09:56] <kingspawn> Breezy-CA: another harddrive :)
[09:56] <Khaaaan> Spalsh screens?
[09:56] <Khaaaan> Gnome?
[09:56] <_jason> paulmer2003: install apache2
[09:56] <Breezy-CA> kingspawn - was afraid of that
[09:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell paulmer2003 about lamp
[09:56] <paulmer2003> it is installed and set up
[09:56] <kosnick> Beezy_CA : maybe the acronis true image staff
[09:56] <paulmer2003> Damn
[09:56] <paulmer2003> die bot
[09:56] <Codename_V> rc-update if I remember right, no?
[09:56] <Breezy-CA> OTOH, might grab me an external HD
[09:57] <paulmer2003> I know how to set it up
[09:57] <_jason> paulmer2003: if you installed from the repos, it will start on boot
[09:57] <ralpho> not linux stuff thats god but 3 party stuff
[09:57] <paulmer2003> Codename_V I tryed that
[09:57] <paulmer2003> And it didnt work
[09:57] <paulmer2003> Pos
[09:57] <ralpho> good
[09:57] <xitrium> how does ubuntu generate a .config for the kernel it installs?
[09:57] <Codename_V> paulmer2003: then maybe you don't no how to set it up is what I figure.  =)
[09:57] <Breezy-CA> kosnick, t/y I'll look into that.
[09:57] <paulmer2003> [das@fnce126]  (0 MB) [~]  # which rc-update
[09:57] <paulmer2003> [das@fnce126]  (0 MB) [~]  #
[09:57] <paulmer2003> wtf?
[09:57] <mrproper> does ubuntu/kubuntu live cd always boot with the "vesa" driver per default?
[09:57] <ompaul> !CoC
[09:57] <ubotu> somebody said coc was the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:57] <kosnick> Breezy : just give it a shot looking it
[09:57] <_jason> paulmer2003: you need to calm down... it's update-rc.d
[09:58] <paulmer2003> silly..
[09:58] <Codename_V> paulmer2003: you really gotta relax guys.  stop being such a jerk and cussing and whatnot.  anyhow, you'd need to be root for one thing.
[09:58] <_jason> paulmer2003: but like I said, it's already there if you installed from the repositories
[09:58] <paulmer2003> Codename_V no shit..
[09:58] <kbrooks> Codename_V, language
[09:58] <ralpho> cant remember if vesa defaults
[09:58] <Codename_V> kbrooks: say what?
[09:58] <Stormx2> Uhg this is so broken
[09:58] <Stormx2> Stupid guide.
[09:58] <kbrooks> Codename_V, you said "jerk".
[09:58] <Khaaaan> 713 people in here and no one knows how to install a new splash screen? hmmm...
[09:59] <bimberi> !tell Khaaaan about usplash
[09:59] <_jason> !usplash
[09:59] <ubotu> usplash is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:59] <Codename_V> kbrooks: right...I'm the bad guy here huh?  is that what you're telling me?
[09:59] <Khaaaan> Thank you sir!
[09:59] <troytroy> how do i get mplayer
[09:59] <xitrium> hello?
[09:59] <_jason> troytroy: did you visit the wiki page that was sent to you before?
[09:59] <Stormx2> Could someone give me what they get when they open "gstreamer-properties", default sink/source?
[09:59] <xitrium> where can i get the Module.symvers from the kernel installed?
[09:59] <Stormx2> Please...
[09:59] <kriz> what was the command used for "jumping" to another channel?
[09:59] <Codename_V> kbrooks: or that was a joke I spose?
[09:59] <Stormx2> kriz: /join ?
[09:59] <Breezy-CA> kriz, /join
[10:00] <kbrooks> Codename_V, No. i was being serious.
[10:00] <kriz> oh, yeah, that one.
[10:00] <kriz> thank you :D
[10:00] <_jason> Stormx2: default is esd for sink and oss for source.  Mine is alsa for sink however
[10:00] <Laibsch> Does anybody use a Via Cyrix CPU?  I have one that the BIOS reports correctly as 600MHz but "cat /proc/cpuinfo" says it is running at 400MHz.  The system is running intolerably slow.
[10:00] <Codename_V> kbrooks: alrighty.  then I stand by my first statement.
[10:00] <redyolk> crimsun: Give me a sec, it's coming...
[10:00] <xitrium> ...
[10:00] <Stormx2> _jason: OK. Its just that anything which records sound is completely broken down to some stupid guide on the ubuntu forums
[10:00] <mrproper> ralpho, im running breezy now and i have had a real hard time making the driver working properly. my lspci output does say "unknown" or something like that regardless of my efforts... I tried booting the live cd and lcpci recogniced my screen driver. is it a safe bet that the install cd will make it work out of the box?
[10:00] <crimsun> xitrium: the configs are preseeded.
[10:00] <bimberi> !tell troytroy about mplayer
[10:01] <squiddle> Stormx2  first vcombobox autodetect, second ALSA
[10:01] <xitrium> crimsun: can I look at them somehow? or somehow get the Module.symvers so my friend can actually compile ndiswrapper?
[10:01] <crimsun> xitrium: on boot, depmod is executed to generate any additional files
[10:01] <Stormx2> squiddle: pardon?
[10:01] <crimsun> xitrium: no, you want linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:01] <Stormx2> squiddle: I don't understand o.O
[10:01] <squiddle> Stormx2  thats what i see using gstreamer-properties :)
[10:01] <Stormx2> squiddle: oh i see
[10:02] <Khaaaan> Man this usplash business seems awfully intense
[10:02] <Stormx2> what IS usplash?
[10:02] <squiddle> the bootsplash during startup
[10:02] <xitrium> crimsun: hmm, looking into that, thanks
[10:02] <Stormx2> "Could not create GStreamer encoders for Lame MP3"
[10:02] <troytroy> bimberi: thnks but where do i get the package to install
[10:02] <klm> why is it that all video files on amule are encrypted these days? is it about the codecs, about insufficent wmv support?
[10:02] <Khaaaan> This is so complex...
[10:02] <manar> hi
[10:02] <Stormx2> How do I restart sound...
[10:03] <ralpho> sorry my wife is sick and bellowed for some more dope
[10:03] <troytroy> bimberi: see not included in the repo
[10:03] <Khaaaan> I just wanted to replace that ugly "dapper drake" one
[10:03] <crimsun> Stormx2: in Breezy?
[10:03] <Stormx2> crimsun: yes.
[10:03] <crimsun> Stormx2: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[10:03] <Stormx2> thanks
[10:03] <manar> ok
[10:03] <manar> welcom
[10:03] <_jason> troytroy: the wiki page explains that mplayer is in multiverse
[10:04] <Khaaaan> ha
[10:04] <ralpho> mrproper I am using dapper and its the best thing i ever used ad i have a copy of dos ver 1.1
[10:04] <Khaaaan> uh oh
[10:04] <bimberi> troytroy: do you have multiverse enabled?
[10:04] <Stormx2> WRRAAAUUUGHT! its *STILL* not working
[10:04] <nickrud> ralpho, I hope you have that copy properly wrapped in cellophane :)
[10:04] <Stormx2> Let me find that thread
[10:04] <Stormx2> I am gonna post such negative feedback
[10:04] <ralpho> in my safe
[10:05] <crimsun> Stormx2: what are you referring to?
[10:05] <Stormx2> crimsun: I can't record or rip. crimsun
[10:05] <Stormx2> Woops sorry, stupid C&P
[10:05] <Stormx2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[10:05] <crimsun> Stormx2: can you use arecord?
[10:05] <ralpho> This is the first time I am thinking about removing my windows partition.
[10:06] <redyolk> crimsun: I think it's there now... under redyolk
[10:06] <Stormx2> crimsun: Not sure... Ill see
[10:06] <crimsun> redyolk: url, please.
[10:06] <Stormx2> arecord: main:533: audio open error: Invalid argument
[10:06] <mrproper> ralpho, right !
[10:06] <IdleOne> ralpho, dont think about it. just do it you will be so much happier :)
[10:06] <ralpho> only thing stopping me is i like to listen to xm radio on the web
[10:06] <redyolk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11331
[10:06] <xitrium> crimsun: there is no Module.symvers included with the linux-headers, is there a way I can generate one using depmod?
[10:06] <troytroy> bimberi: ??
[10:07] <venox> heh
[10:07] <crimsun> xitrium: you don't need Module.symvers
[10:07] <bimberi> !tell troytroy about multiverse
[10:07] <troytroy> bimberi: please am yet to gain ground in the linux world
[10:07] <venox> this computer only has ubuntu and archlinux
[10:07] <crimsun> xitrium: you simply need to compile ndiswrapper against linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:07] <venox> no more windows on it ;)
[10:07] <Stormx2> I'll just reboot. *sigh*
[10:07] <redyolk> crimsun: I had to do some song and dance with the modules too.. i'm looking for the page where i found the info
[10:08] <venox> my other one won't have windows when linux support Pinnacle DV500 DVD video capture card :P
[10:08] <bimberi> troytroy: sorry, was a bit inattentive, are you getting the /msg-s from ubotu?
[10:08] <crimsun> following random HOW-TOs on the forum is an excellent way to screw things up.
[10:08] <troytroy> bimberi: yes
[10:08] <Stormx2> crimsun: But it looked so promising >.>
[10:08] <nick|away> i have compiled vanilla using k7 config but tells me its for i386 ??
[10:08] <embrik> anybody anybody out there who has succeded installing hp laserjet 1020?
[10:08] <Stormx2> Oh joy. GNOME has locked up now.
[10:08] <_jason> My microphone doesn't work.  I have no idea how to troubleshoot this.  If anyone can help me, what info do you need?
[10:09] <Codename_V> embrik: linuxprinting.org would probably have some good advice.
[10:09] <kbrooks> crimsun, why?
[10:09] <crimsun> kbrooks: why what?
[10:09] <duelboot> _jason...what soundcard?
[10:09] <kbrooks> crimsun, why is following random HOW-TOs on the forum is an excellent way to screw things up?
[10:09] <crimsun> kbrooks: the keyword is "random", not "any"
[10:09] <kosnick> crimsun : well you know the question
[10:09] <duelboot> _jason, laptop?
[10:10] <kbrooks> crimsun, i copied and pasted
[10:10] <kbrooks> :)
[10:10] <ralpho> my broadcom worked in linux not ndiswrapper and for the first time ever my sd disk work too.
[10:10] <_jason> duelboot: oh boy, whatever is on this dell.  lspci says Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02), that's it right?
[10:10] <Codename_V> nick|away: because generic x86 support is enabled perhaps?  look at the config file.
[10:10] <kbrooks> crimsun, dont be so pedantic
[10:10] <_jason> duelboot: yeah, laptop.  inspiron 8200, dell
[10:10] <crimsun> kosnick: no, I'm following six things at once, and there are four undergrads in my office right now working on their theses. Forgive me if I don't follow.
[10:10] <xitrium> crimsun: I compile ndiswrapper against the linux-headers (it says modules will have no modversions or dependencies), but it then says scripts/Makefile.build is missing
[10:10] <kosnick> crimsun : there was some crimsun in $ubuntu-kern as well maybe it wasn't you,
[10:10] <duelboot> _jason, oh boy, it can be done...but it is not that easy (unless someone here knows a trick I don't)...hold on
[10:11] <_jason> duelboot: even just some link to information would be very helpful
[10:11] <crimsun> kbrooks: I'm not being pedantic, nor am I saying _all_ HOW-TOs on the forum are bad. I'm saying that people who don't demonstrate a solid understanding of how Ubuntu deals with ESounD and ALSA are going to end up suggesting things that will break installs.
[10:11] <bimberi> troytroy: ok, if you're following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto let us know where problems occur
[10:11] <crimsun> kosnick: no, that's me. Just give me a sec. You asked regarding source, correct?
[10:11] <Stormx2> Back
[10:11] <kosnick> crimsun : correct
[10:11] <duelboot> _jason, have an intel ICH5 on a gateway laptop and made it work...if you give me several minutes I can paste what worked for me and give you the link
[10:11] <Stormx2> let see if I have any luck with ripping now.
[10:12] <kosnick> crimsun : i can wait
[10:12] <kbrooks> crimsun, things like what? like rm -rfing alsa ?
[10:12] <_jason> duelboot: thanks
[10:12] <duelboot> _jason, you need to find the driver for it
[10:12] <crimsun> kosnick: simply make sure you have the deb-src lines enabled in /etc/network/interfaces, and apt-get source $foo
[10:12] <Stormx2> Nope
[10:12] <crimsun> kosnick: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <kosnick> crimsun : what will happen then?
[10:12] <crimsun> kosnick: sorry, typing is horrible today.
[10:12] <Stormx2> I don't want to use a HiFi to listen to music when my computer is quite capable... and I need to get ripping working. How can i restore the sound defaults and such?
[10:12] <troytroy> bimberi: error mplayer has no installation candidate
[10:12] <crimsun> kosnick: You'll be able to retrieve source for any package and look at it.
[10:13] <zipper> Can any of you guys recommend a good instant messenger client that i can use with the msn messenger protocol (and icq if possible, but not important) where i can see the ip of the people i have on my list?
[10:13] <kosnick> crimsun : thx for your time
[10:13] <IdleOne> zipper, GAIM
[10:13] <Codename_V> zipper: gaim and kopeter are about the best in my opinion
[10:13] <Rockviech> hey
[10:13] <Stormx2> Can they see IPs tho?
[10:13] <Rockviech> can anyone help me with dell wireless mini pci card
[10:13] <crimsun> kbrooks: anything from creating ~/.asoundrcs that break silently due to missing parameters and directives to removing system conffiles.
[10:13] <Rockviech> is there any way getting it working without ethernet acces?
[10:13] <Codename_V> zipper: as for seeing the ips on either.  I wouldn't know.
[10:13] <IdleOne> zipper, kopete also supports icq aim msn iirc
[10:13] <zipper> IdleOne, i'm using gaim right now, but i cannot see the ip of the people who are on my list? Or am i just not looking hard enough?
[10:13] <Stormx2> Guys how do I just scrap all the config for sound?
[10:14] <Stormx2> and gstreamer/.
[10:14] <crimsun> kbrooks: it really runs the gamut, and I've seen a _lot_ of horrible suggestions.
[10:14] <bimberi> troytroy: it's mplayer-386 or mplayer-586
[10:14] <zipper> Codename_V, ok, but thats the most important part really. Thanks though
[10:14] <IdleOne> zipper, i dont know about that i dont use instant messaging . Im an irc kinda guy
[10:14] <duelboot> _jason, do your speakers work?
[10:14] <crimsun> Stormx2: scrap what config, ones you've created? modified?
[10:14] <zipper> oh
[10:14] <_jason> duelboot: yes
[10:14] <Khaaaan> Damn... why won't Xchat remember my login names???
[10:14] <Codename_V> zipper: perhaps the protocol prevents you from seeing the ips.  but barring that, try enabling debug mode or something and see what gets spit out at the console, or in the log window or whatever.
[10:15] <zipper> i had an IM client that could do it once a couple oof years ago, but i forgot what it was called =|
[10:15] <Stormx2> crimsun: One i've created, thats easy enough. The other i've modified. Let me check if i made a backup
[10:15] <Stormx2> Yeah I have. Hold up
[10:15] <duelboot> _jason, do you have alsamixer and gnome-alsamixer installed?  yes both...
[10:15] <IdleOne> zipper, there is also Trillian but i dont know if it supports Linux
[10:15] <zipper> Codename_V, ok, i'll try that, thanks
[10:16] <Codename_V> IdleOne: nope.
[10:16] <Jowi> Khaaaan: do you have write permissions to ~/.xchat2 and the files therein?
[10:16] <zipper> IdleOne, does trillian have the ability to look up the ip of the people on my list?
[10:16] <duelboot> _jason ^^^^
[10:16] <Codename_V> IdleOne: that and it's not open.
[10:16] <_jason> duelboot: haha, wow I am really sorry for wasting your time.  I just though to check the volume level on the mic and it wasn't muted, but it was on zero.  Thanks for helping
[10:16] <IdleOne> Codename_V,  yeah it a pay program anyhow
[10:16] <zipper> i could always emulate it or something
[10:16] <Khaaaan> jowi, how would I check that?
[10:16] <duelboot> _jason, no waste, yw for nothing...hehe
[10:16] <vdepizzol> anyone tried to run with Wine the game "Ragnarok online"?
[10:17] <Stormx2> Time for another reboot.
[10:17] <IdleOne> reboot?
[10:17] <IdleOne> hehe
[10:17] <duelboot> reboot is an MS solution, not Linux
[10:17] <IdleOne> !reboot
[10:17] <graveson> i have a few questions that i am hoping someone can help me with . is there any good software to convert mp3's to wma for ubuntu
[10:17] <ubotu> IdleOne: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:17] <__mikem> graveson, why would you want to do this
[10:17] <troytroy> bimberi: ok
[10:18] <troytroy> which is current
[10:18] <IdleOne> graveson, lame do man lame in terminal < is what I was told yesterday :)
[10:18] <troytroy> bimberi: which is current and support breezy
[10:18] <IdleOne> oh wait mp3 to wma
[10:18] <martoss> hi there
[10:18] <IdleOne> I dont know!
[10:18] <martoss> why is the following not working:
[10:18] <IdleOne> hello martoss
[10:18] <Khaaaan> jowi, can you give me the term command to set privilegies to those folders?
[10:18] <martoss> kdesu `konsole -e apt-get update`
[10:18] <zipper> IdleOne, i'm sorry for bothering you again, but i never got an answer. If i use trillian, can i see the ip of the people on my msn list?
[10:19] <nickrud> troytroy, that page tells you specifically what version to install, based on your machine
[10:19] <Jowi> Khaaaan: the nicks are listed in ~/.xchat2/chat.conf (they are called itc_nick1, irc_nick2 etc) you can enter them in there directly. to see if you have write permission do "ls -la ~/.xchat2", it should say at least "rw" in the beginning of the information shown
[10:19] <graveson> mikem : trying to help out a friend who uses this format for  itunes
[10:19] <embrik> seem to have forgot my root password, what do I do?
[10:19] <Breezy-CA> Very basic question about disk usage statistics - how can I see disk usage for a given directory, e.g. /home/my/stuff - is there a df switch?
[10:19] <Jowi> Khaaaan: "chmod +w file-or-foldername" to set "write"
[10:19] <kosnick> how do i find out which is my version (breezy or whatever)?
[10:19] <IdleOne> zipper, np bother and I am not certain but it isnt open source and will have to pay for the full version and it is windows only
[10:19] <__mikem> oh
[10:19] <__mikem> I use rhapsody, not itunes, so I wouldn't know about that
[10:19] <hatake_k1kashi> Breezy-CA: du
[10:19] <bimberi> troytroy: either, use mplayer-586 if you have a newer Intel based PC (P-Pro or later)
[10:19] <squiddle> Breezy-CA  use du -sh FOLDER
[10:20] <Breezy-CA> hatake_k1kashi, squiddle : T/y :)
[10:20] <Stormx2> This had better work now >.>
[10:20] <tkup> Knorrie, you could look at /etc/issue
[10:20] <martoss> embrik, boot with knoppix, chroot in your installed system and reset the password with passwd root
[10:20] <bimberi> !tell embrik about root
[10:20] <redyolk> crimsun: Ive checked in alsamixer and every playback control is on and set to max if that matters
[10:20] <zipper> IdleOne, aww, thats harsh. I could live with closed source and windows only, but i can't get myself to pay for an IM client. Thanks though
[10:20] <Breezy-CA> du as in duh ... I should have remembered that :)
[10:20] <Khaaaan> It looks like my permissions are okay, but I did have Gnome chat installed at the same time
[10:20] <madsen> hi do I change to iso-8859-1 charset?
[10:20] <crimsun> redyolk: sorry, your url was lost in the backscroll.
[10:20] <Khaaaan> when I uninstalled that is when this problem began
[10:20] <madsen> How do I change to iso-8859-1 charset?
[10:20] <Stormx2> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
[10:20] <redyolk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11331
[10:20] <Stormx2> Aaahhh!
[10:20] <Stormx2> I want my RATM!
[10:20] <redyolk> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11331
[10:20] <Stormx2> This is not fair :(
[10:20] <IdleOne> zipper, give kopete a try: sudo apt-get install kopete
[10:21] <embrik> bimberi:I have to be root, or have the root pasword to install a printer in localhost:631, or haven't I?
[10:21] <nickrud> bimberi, could you take a look at the mplayer page, there's some new info on there I was wondering about
[10:21] <hatake_kakashi> embrik: use sudo
[10:21] <Jowi> Khaaaan: well, I have never had that problem. I would try to enter my nickname directly in the xchat.conf file to see if it sticks or if the defaults are loaded instead of what you entered
[10:22] <bimberi> !tell embrik about cupsweb
[10:22] <embrik> hatake_: how can I use sudo in a dialog-box?
[10:22] <bimberi> nickrud: ooh, ok which bit?  (i don't actuallu use mplayer - he says backpedalling rapidly :P )
[10:22] <hatake_kakashi> embrik: or there is gksudo that you can probably use as well
[10:22] <bimberi> *actually
[10:22] <__mikem> hey, where is the source list for apt located
[10:22] <nickrud> bimberi, recommendations on which to install, and nm :)
[10:23] <embrik> bimberi: thanks :-)
[10:23] <hatake_kakashi> __mikem: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:23] <mitty> hi
[10:23] <madsen> How do I change to iso-8859-1 charset?
[10:23] <bimberi> nickrud: ah yes, cheers for the headsup :)
[10:23] <hatake_kakashi> its under man apt'
[10:23] <bimberi> embrik: yw :)
[10:23] <hatake_kakashi> 'man apt'
[10:23] <Khaaaan> hey jowi, that file, chat.conf, does not exist in my xchat2 directory
[10:24] <mitty> i just installed the restricted ubuntu 2.6.2-10-686 kernel image/modules bu i don' have a module called "nvidia" anyone that kows in wich package i can find the nvidia module?
[10:24] <hatake_kakashi> !tell mitty about nvidia
[10:24] <Jowi> Khaaaan: it's called "xchat.conf"
[10:24] <madsen> !tell madsen about ati
[10:25] <bimberi> !tell mitty about nvidia
[10:25] <Khaaaan> jowi, I edited it directly
[10:25] <Koharski> is there like, a general chat chanel?
[10:25] <crimsun> redyolk: ok, looking.
[10:25] <Khaaaan> We'll see if that sticks
[10:25] <Khaaaan> brb
[10:25] <nickrud> Koharski, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:26] <Koharski> cool
[10:26] <crimsun> redyolk: what's the core issue?
[10:26] <eugman> How do I install a python module?
[10:26] <Breezy-CA> !nvidia
[10:26] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:26] <redyolk> 8-dsl.ipact.nl]  has joined #ubuntu [13:26]  [redyolk(+i)]  [2:#Ubuntu(+Lcnt)] 
[10:26] <redyolk> [#Ubuntu] 
[10:27] <crimsun> redyolk: (no, that's a mispaste)
[10:27] <mitty> hatake_kakashi, bimberi  yes i have read that wiki page, but like i said, i installed the nvidia restricted modules as well but still don'thave a nvidia module for my current kernel
[10:28] <hatake_kakashi> mitty: unless if you are running on vanilla kernel, I don't see how else
[10:28] <Stormx2> Its still not working :(:(:(
[10:28] <redyolk> crimsun: No sound.  Multimedia Systems Selector app complains "unable to construct test pipeline" for any output source.
[10:28] <bimberi> eugman: put it in a directory where python will find it - such as /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages
[10:30] <crimsun> redyolk: what does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' return from a Terminal?
[10:30] <nickrud> mitty, you installed linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) ?
[10:30] <Khaaaan> How do I set Rythmbox as the default app for music?/
[10:30] <_jason> !defaultapp
[10:30] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[10:30] <Stormx2> wtf I give up. I feel like just doing a clean install of ubuntu this is pissing me off so much
[10:30] <redyolk> crimsun: ... so far it's hanging
[10:30] <Stormx2> But I won't. I'll boot into windows and shower. to rip a cd... greeat.
[10:31] <crimsun> Stormx2: does sound-juicer not work?
[10:31] <troytroy> bimberi: error mplayer has no installation candidate
[10:31] <Stormx2> crimsun: it doesn't.
[10:31] <nickrud> Stormx2, you could always fall back on grip
[10:31] <Stormx2> crimsun: has problems with MP3 output
[10:31] <Stormx2> grip has never worked for me.
[10:31] <bimberi> troytroy: what command are you typing to get that?
[10:31] <mitty> nickrud, yes i have
[10:32] <mitty> hatake_kakashi, i'm running the vanilla kernel indeed
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Are there any plans to implement a global default app configuration tool?
[10:32] <_jason> tonyyarusso: ask the gnome devs :)
[10:32] <crimsun> Stormx2: breezy? dapper?
[10:32] <mitty> hatake_kakashi, and i tried listing all the files in side the restricted package, with 'apt-file list' but i couldn't find any files
[10:32] <Stormx2> crimsun: breezy
[10:32] <Stormx2> crimsun: just like 15 minutes ago ^.^
[10:32] <crimsun> Stormx2: is gstreamer0.8-lame installed?
[10:32] <troytroy> bimberi: sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Okay.  I'm guessing that would be a mailing list kind of thing?
[10:32] <Stormx2> crimsun: Yes.
[10:32] <_jason> tonyyarusso: I suppose or you might try #gnome on GIMPNet
[10:33] <crimsun> Stormx2: reproducible in F6 or newer?
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Ah, will check that out.
[10:33] <Stormx2> crimsun: I have no idea what you just meant
[10:33] <bimberi> troytroy: please put your sources.list on the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:33] <crimsun> Stormx2: can you reproduce the issue(s) in Dapper Flight 6 or newer?
[10:33] <Jowi> Stormx2: liblame0 as well?
[10:33] <Stormx2> crimsun: No, I've never tried dapper o.O
[10:33] <Stormx2> Am i meant to have done
[10:33] <Snderfox> hi, yesterday I installed java 1.5, but 'java --version' keeps saying java version 1.4.2. how do I fix this ? because ubuntu doesn't have the java-config package..
[10:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell Snderfox about multijava
[10:34] <troytroy> bimberi: ok
[10:34] <crimsun> redyolk: ok, press ctrl+c
[10:34] <crimsun> redyolk: then pastebin the output from ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[10:35] <tkup> troytroy, I don't advise that you do it but you could try: sudo apt-get install mplayer* it might install extra stuff that you won't need
[10:35] <Stormx2> crimsun: What do I do? o.O I guess I could reboot again. Just for kicks
[10:35] <bimberi> Snderfox: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:36] <Snderfox> yeah
[10:36] <Snderfox> I heard :P
[10:37] <troytroy> bimberi: please which dir is the file
[10:37] <embrik> how do I handle a rpm package in ubuntu?
[10:37] <Jowi> !info liblame0
[10:37] <bimberi> troytroy: /etc/apt
[10:37] <troytroy> bimberi: /etc ?
[10:37] <troytroy> ok
[10:37] <nickrud> embrik, with tongs?
[10:37] <_jason> embrik: you try to avoid doing so
[10:37] <ubotu> liblame0: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 147 kB, Installed size: 376 kB
[10:37] <redyolk> crimsun: lsof attempted.  it's in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11332
[10:37] <embrik> OK
[10:37] <bimberi> nickrud: lol
[10:37] <_jason> embrik: what are you trying to install?
[10:37] <nickrud> embrik, which rpm?
[10:37] <embrik> _jason
[10:37] <embrik> Limewire
[10:38] <nickrud> !limewire
[10:38] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[10:38] <_jason> embrik: you can install limewire, but I would really recommend frostwire instead
[10:38] <graveson> !frostwire
[10:38] <crimsun> redyolk: ok, it looks like the wrong driver is loaded. Please try: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx
[10:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell embrik about frostwire
[10:38] <Stormx2> Hey again
[10:38] <Stormx2> Lets give this another try then...
[10:38] <crimsun> Stormx2: there's no need to reboot.
[10:38] <Jowi> Stormx2: I was thinking.... did you install liblame0 as well?
[10:39] <Stormx2> Jowi: yeah thats installed
[10:39] <Stormx2> Jowi: I've basicly installed everything with "lame" or "gstreamer" in its name
[10:39] <Stormx2> crimsun: Really?
[10:39] <Stormx2> crimsun: Because
[10:39] <Stormx2> crimsun: Its working now
[10:39] <Stormx2> crimsun: o.O
[10:40] <redyolk> crimsun: that's the thing... cs-46xx is the incorrect driver for the chips i this thing.  i followed some recipes that worked for others in the forums for setting them right...
[10:40] <redyolk> crimsun: linux incorrectly detects the sound chips in 600 series thinkpads
[10:40] <crimsun> redyolk: no, cs46xx is the _correct_ driver for 600X.
[10:40] <troytroy> bimberi: ok i sent two screen shots
[10:40] <crimsun> redyolk: for the 600E, other workarounds are necessary.
[10:41] <eugman> Anyone here know how to install ODE?
[10:41] <redyolk> crimsun: oh hrm.... i see
[10:41] <crimsun> redyolk: it's only because of Easy Boot/Quick Boot that some people find they _have_ to use cs4236
[10:41] <troytroy> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11333
[10:42] <Stormx2> Oh and another thing, why does my 16x CD drive rips at 6x, when my 52x CD drive rips at 3x (both have DMA enabled)
[10:42] <redyolk> crimsun: I did turn quickboot off... and i've got boot options acpi=force and pci=noacpi
[10:42] <nerve> is there a howto on how to get suspend to ram and suspend to disk working in ubuntu?
[10:42] <crimsun> redyolk: ...what? Choose one or the other of "acpi=force" and "pci=noacpi".
[10:43] <troytroy> bimberi: second  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11333
[10:43] <redyolk> crimsun: I'm reading the lists now looking for other recipes for this problem...  that was juust part of one thathad worked for someone
[10:43] <troytroy> bimberi: sorry second  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11334
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> nerve: You probably want to look around on things like the wiki, forums, and even Google, as that's largely machine-specific.  Look at the wiki first.  For instance, I have a ThinkPad and such issues are documented on the ThinkWiki.
[10:43] <samoht> hi
[10:44] <bimberi> troytroy: kk, looking
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> nerve: If you give your computer model, someone might have the same one and be able to help as well.
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> nerve: Let me check if there's a general page on the wiki...
[10:44] <samoht> glx isn't working here (brezzy)
[10:45] <crimsun> redyolk: let's start from the beginning. What hardware do you have?
[10:45] <samoht> i'm using opensource radeon-module
[10:45] <bimberi> troytroy: multiverse is only enabled for the breezy-backports repository, you need to add it to any line that has 'universe' on it
[10:45] <samoht> glxinfo just prints "name of display: :0." and freezes then
[10:45] <nerve> tonyyarusso, i'm helping a friend on ubuntu, i wasn't sure if this distribution has the facility already bundled in :)
[10:46] <nerve> tonyyarusso, otherwise, do you still need to patch the kernel etc etc?
[10:46] <bimberi> troytroy: also you can 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' to edit the file (as well as being a good way to copy/paste the whole thing to the pastebin)
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> nerve: It does, but whether it works may vary.  The kernel has the capability, anyway.
[10:46] <redyolk> crimsun: IBM ThinkPad 600e ; type 2645-8BU
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> nerve: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SuspendHowTo  <--  Start here.  If you're lucky, it works out of the box.
[10:46] <nerve> thanks :)
[10:47] <crimsun> redyolk: pastebin ``lsmod''
[10:47] <troytroy> bimberi: so which lines shoul i uncomment
[10:48] <bimberi> troytroy: none, just look for any that have 'universe' on them and make sure they also have multiverse as well
[10:48] <arrick> troytroy, she meand typing multiverse at the end of any line with universe in it
[10:48] <Ongo> hi people. I have a problem with networking. I get "temporary failure in name resolution". I have onBoard Gigabit Lan on Tyan s2885 board. I disabled tg3 driver and tried to install the driver reccomended by Tyan, but then I got more problems. Can someone help me?
[10:48] <arrick> good evening
[10:49] <duelboot> arrick...good evening to you
[10:49] <troytroy> bimberi: ok
[10:49] <arrick> u2 duelboot
[10:49] <troytroy> arrick: thnk bro
[10:49] <redyolk> crimsun: Aye.  At bottom of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11332
[10:49] <arrick> np :-)
[10:49] <tkup> she?
[10:50] <tkup> did I hear a she?
[10:50] <crimsun> redyolk: wrong url.
[10:50] <duelboot> redyolk, ReiserFS?
[10:50] <arrick> tkup, nope
[10:50] <redyolk> crimsun: Sorry.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11335
[10:50] <arrick> sorry bimberi you guy or gal?
[10:51] <crimsun> redyolk: heh.
[10:51] <caglar> is there a program which can record video from my webcam on linux
[10:51] <caglar> ?
[10:51] <tkup> arrick, are you hitting on people here again?
[10:51] <crimsun> redyolk: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo modprobe -r uart401 ad1848 sound && sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[10:52] <arrick> never have hit on people here, just didnt mean to be gender specific, and didnt realize I had
[10:52] <troytroy> bimberi: still error
[10:52] <arrick> I'm a married man, happily
[10:52] <Ongo> Hi. I do I get RPM to work?
[10:52] <tkup> arrick, I was just kidding
[10:52] <bimberi> arrick: me too :P
[10:53] <arrick> !rpm
[10:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[10:53] <troytroy> bimberi: added multiverse to all lines with universe
[10:53] <bimberi> troytroy: did you 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[10:53] <LadyNikon> heh again
[10:53] <arrick> yeah troytroy you really got to do that
[10:53] <tkup> troytroy, did you try doing 'sudo apt-get install mplayer*'?
[10:53] <oe> hi all
[10:53] <nickrud> tkup, his sources were incomplete
[10:53] <arrick> hiback
[10:53] <oe> i need help with doom
[10:53] <oe> plz
[10:53] <tkup> troytroy, after adding those entries you have to 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:54] <Ongo> OK. What is !alian? And how do I get it work?
[10:54] <oe> who can help me?
[10:54] <harisund> Has anybody used tsclient here to remote desktop to a Windows box?
[10:54] <troytroy> thnk bro
[10:54] <redyolk> crimsun: fatals inserting snd_cs4236
[10:54] <scav-> harisund,  yes
[10:54] <tkup> harisund, yes, what's up?
[10:54] <nickrud> Ongo, what rpm are you trying to use?
[10:54] <bimberi> seems i'm female and invisible today :P
[10:54] <crimsun> redyolk: ``lsmod''
[10:54] <troytroy> thanks brothers and sisters
[10:54] <Ongo> I'm trying to install ethernet driver
[10:54] <harisund> tkup, scav, when you configure tsclient, do you enter a password? Even if I do, it remotes to the windows machine and still asks for a password?
[10:54] <oe> who i get sound in doomlegacy?
[10:55] <scav-> harisund, yep, have that "problem" too
[10:55] <tkup> harisund, you don't have to enter a password initially. just put in the IP or host
[10:55] <nickrud> Ongo, it's probably already in the unbuntu kernel, which one
[10:55] <Ubuntu|Newbie> can anybody help me with GRUB?
[10:55] <arrick> hah bimberi you kidding around again?
[10:55] <harisund> Ok thanks scav :D
[10:55] <Ongo> there's a way to install the driver without the rpm's but I have problems
[10:55] <redyolk> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11336
[10:55] <harisund> tkup: Yes, I do put in the IP / hostname only .
[10:55] <Ongo> true. It's broadcom bcm5700
[10:55] <LadyNikon> Ubuntu|Newbie: what do you need help with?
[10:55] <bimberi> arrick: again?  me?  never! :)
[10:55] <Ongo> well, here's the story
[10:55] <tkup> harisund, ah I don't like putting password before getting prompt. it's usually bad practice
[10:56] <Jowi> Ubuntu|Newbie: it's easier to get answer if you ask a specific question :)
[10:56] <harisund> Yep, you are right there.. just wondering whether it is designed that way.
[10:56] <Ongo> I get Failure in name resolution , error every time I start Ubuntu
[10:56] <Ongo> So that's why I'm trying to replace the tg3 driver with recommended one
[10:56] <oe> i cant listen any sound in doomlegancy
[10:56] <troytroy> bimberi:  ok downloading now thks bro
[10:56] <arrick> sorry
[10:57] <Ongo> If I'm not mistaken the error happens when Ubuntu is trying to get the GMT time
[10:57] <tkup> harisund, ah you're right... putting the password in tsclient doesn't help
[10:57] <harisund> tkup: lol. Ok no problem. Thanks for your time anyway
[10:57] <papaubuntu> hi all
[10:58] <harisund> hi papaubuntu
[10:58] <crimsun> redyolk: sec, bug triaging.
[10:58] <bimberi> !grub
[10:58] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:58] <papaubuntu> have a look in and give me a hand with the new #ubuntu-help channel.
[10:58] <papaubuntu> thanks
[10:58] <Ongo> !rpm
[10:58] <ubotu> rpm is, like, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[10:59] <nickrud> Ongo, it seems the problem lies in your net not being up when the time needs to be set. (and the broadcom site says tg3 for 57xx)
[10:59] <oe> i dont have sound in doom =((((
[10:59] <xstation> hi
[11:00] <harisund> Hi xstation, nice meeting you again
[11:00] <oe> hi harisund
[11:00] <IdleOne> papaubuntu, why does ubuntu need another help channel when this is already the official Ubuntu help channel?
[11:00] <xstation> harisund: hi you ok
[11:00] <ubuntu> hi u all...sorry
[11:00] <harisund> Yes xstation. What's up?
[11:01] <canarion> uff
[11:01] <xstation> i need to install jave please do not say the bot
[11:01] <arrick> papaubuntu, thats a good april fools joke you got going on there
[11:01] <LadyNikon> say the bot?
[11:01] <xstation> java
[11:01] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[11:01] <nickrud> (<Tab> means press the Tab Key) In the directory where you downloaded the sun jre, type sudo aptitude install java-package ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre<Tab> ; sudo dpkg -i sun<Tab>
[11:01] <_jason> xstation: have you read the wiki page?
[11:01] <MetaMorfoziS> where you stopped in the howto?
[11:01] <nickrud> xstation, ^^
[11:01] <harisund> How do you want to install java? Do you want to do it the .deb way or from the Sun Java page?
[11:01] <atmosfear> hey has anyone installed Cedage on ubuntu?
[11:01] <_jason> heh nickrud has a bind or soemthing
[11:01] <canarion> thanks you very much   nickrud
[11:02] <harisund> xstation? Did you see my previous question?
[11:02] <xstation> nickrud: hi only here for a few minutes just got to install java
[11:02] <oe> hi LadyNixon
[11:02] <Ongo> It's up. During instalation (of Ubuntu) it tried to connect to the internet (via DHxx something). Anyway, it failed and I didn't now how to configure it manually: So I figured I'll do it later, and so I skeeped it. However, later (that is, now) I have bigger problems.
[11:02] <tkup> harisund, if you go back to the roots, and use rdesktop on the command line: 'rdesktop -u administrator -p test hostname' it won't ask you for the password again
[11:02] <nickrud> xstation, it's a 3 step process after the download :)
[11:02] <atmosfear> hey has anyone here tried or sucessfully installed cedage on ubuntu?
[11:02] <harisund> tkup: Wow ! Thanks. I knew there had to be a command line option as a work around. Awesome.
[11:03] <nickrud> _jason, I have a few, yes :)
[11:03] <xstation> nickrud ok lets hear them please
[11:03] <nickrud> xstation, look above
[11:03] <xstation> harisund  : whats up i am ok?
[11:03] <xstation> nickrud: wiki
[11:04] <harisund> xstation: I was wondering whether you were planning on using the .deb to install java, or using the download from Sun directly.
[11:04] <arrick> Hey guys nickrud is #1 on java install, it actually works afterwards
[11:04] <LadyNikon> heh
[11:04] <atmosfear> hey xstation. I just joined and dont see how to install cedage on ubuntu
[11:04] <tkup> harisund, tsclient is just a wrapper around rdesktop. tsclient launches rdesktop when you click "Connect"
[11:04] <PlantPerson> duelboot: my partitions are working now
[11:04] <arrick> harisund, easier to install the auto install option
[11:04] <Khaaaaan> Where can I find documentation on how to dist-upgrade to Dapper?
[11:04] <harisund> tkup: Yes. I figured that out now, thanks to you :D
[11:04] <oe> hi all plz help me
[11:04] <xstation> harisund: deb if possible where is it please
[11:04] <tkup> np
[11:05] <atmosfear> does ne one here know how to install cedage on ubuntu?
[11:05] <nickrud> I wish someone would release the bug fixes for java-package, I'd finish my wiki page
[11:05] <patrick52222> why cant i see my apache page on a windows pc on my network
[11:05] <harisund> xstation: for .deb you would have to look up the wiki, or ask nickrud about it :D
[11:05] <arrick> nickrud, you were able to walk me through it just fione
[11:05] <harisund> I do it from the Sun java download page
[11:05] <arrick> fine
[11:05] <[cro] smiley> how to get date of tomorrow in console?
[11:05] <xstation> atmosfear: not sure
[11:05] <makaveli> patrick52222,  what does browser say?
[11:05] <arrick> [cro] smiley, today +1
[11:05] <Jowi> patrick52222: are you using a router?
[11:05] <patrick52222> it cant find it
[11:05] <arrick> hehe
[11:06] <duelboot> PlantPerson:  welcome back...good to know, BTW you can change umask=000 to enable you to write to it
[11:06] <xstation> nickrud: ok whats is the url please of the wiki
[11:06] <patrick52222> yes im using a linksys router
[11:06] <nickrud> arrick, that only works properly for 386, ppc & amd64 have issues
[11:06] <PlantPerson> that's what I finally did
[11:06] <arrick> ok nickrud thanks for letting me know
[11:06] <PlantPerson> I found some good stuff in the help files
[11:06] <duelboot> PlantPerson:  sorry to tell you so late...tried to send email, but had the wrong address...it bounced
[11:06] <atmosfear> ok thanks Xstation
[11:06] <Jowi> patrick52222: set the router to redirect port 80 to your server, then from the windows machine access your public ip address in the browser. that should do it
[11:06] <[cro] smiley> arrick, and the code would look like...?
[11:06] <nickrud> xstation, did you get the pm?
[11:06] <xstation> patrick52222 hi
[11:06] <PlantPerson> It wouldn't let me chown though... don't know why not
[11:07] <PlantPerson> it works now though
[11:07] <patrick52222> xstation: hi
[11:07] <mthakur> hi there, how do u install updates
[11:07] <Jowi> patrick52222: your router may or may not block if you try to use your local ip
[11:07] <arrick> [cro] smiley, I was being fecicious, not serious
[11:07] <xstation> nickrud: no
[11:07] <duelboot> PlantPerson...enjoy...Ubuntu is simply the best
[11:07] <nickrud> xstation, (<Tab> means press the Tab Key) In the directory where you downloaded the sun jre, type sudo aptitude install java-package ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre<Tab> ; sudo dpkg -i sun<Tab>
[11:07] <PlantPerson> I like it.
[11:07] <arrick> sorry
[11:07] <patrick52222> jovi: will try
[11:08] <PlantPerson> I'm not sure how to get any software onto it until the modem is working though
[11:08] <oe> i trying install doomlegancy but i dont have sound
[11:08] <john27> does anyone know how to get ipw2200 wireless working in breezy
[11:08] <mthakur> my fing says 73 updates available when i try 2 install, it asks 4 my password and den does nofing. pls help
[11:08] <crimsun> john27: should work by default.
[11:08] <john27> this is driving me nuts
[11:08] <duelboot> PlantPerson...you can get a cable modem...hehe
[11:08] <arrick> PlantPerson, you have to either foppy and sneakernet it or maybe use a cd burner
[11:08] <crimsun> john27: what sort of issue(s)?
[11:08] <john27> it did not
[11:08] <crimsun> redyolk: sec, reading
[11:08] <arrick> and stilll sneaker net it
[11:08] <mthakur> HELLO??
[11:08] <IdleOne> hello!
[11:09] <ubuntu> stop caps -.-
[11:09] <xstation> nickrud: thanks a bit lost on tab key
[11:09] <patrick52222> jovi: how do i redirect it,
[11:09] <redyolk> crimsun: no hurry.  i'm impressed anyone's helping out with this
[11:09] <mthakur> can ya help?
[11:09] <PlantPerson> is there a good repository of Ubuntu software?
[11:09] <john27> well the card is recognized in the device manager
[11:09] <nickrud> xstation, that's tab completion, a truly great thing. just try it
[11:09] <IdleOne> !tell PlantPerson about repos
[11:09] <duelboot> mthakur, if you stated your question, we'd let you know
[11:09] <john27> the module for ipw220 doesnt appear to be loaded
[11:09] <crimsun> john27: lsmod|grep ^ipw2200
[11:09] <mthakur> thanks.
[11:10] <mthakur> i'm waiting
[11:10] <john27> i did that
[11:10] <john27> and nothing happened
[11:10] <mthakur> lol
[11:10] <suyog> has anyone upgraded to gnome 2.14?
[11:10] <john27> no feedback
[11:10] <IdleOne> mthakur, ask your question. we dont hand out numbers here :)
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I have 3ddesktop installed and functional.  How do I make my shortcut keys for switching desktops in System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts invoke that tool, with specified options?
[11:10] <crimsun> john27: pastebin ``dmesg|grep ipw''
[11:10] <redyolk> crimsun: If you think this is bad, you should see what I went through trying to get a xircom ethernet card working on it under a late 2.6 kernel (i debian, but same diff)...
[11:10] <duelboot> mthakur, sorry, didn't realize HELLO?? was a question :)
[11:10] <Jowi> patrick52222: here's an example: if your router address is 192.168.0.1 you enter that in the browser to get to the router setup. look for an option called either "port redirection" or "virtual server" or something similar. put a rule with your server address (for example 192.168.0.10) and port 80. save and reboot the router. check in the router prefs for the public address or go to www.whatismyip.com to find out.
[11:10] <xstation> nickrud: thanks simply by pressing tab key umm
[11:11] <mthakur> my question is da when i try to install my updates, it asks 4 my password and den does nothing
[11:11] <crimsun> redyolk: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo modprobe -r analog ns558 gameport && sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx
[11:11] <suyog> please tel me, can i upgrade to gnome 2.14 by adding dapper repositories?
[11:11] <mthakur> lol
[11:11] <IdleOne> mthakur, you enter yourpassword then hit enter right?
[11:11] <john27> forgive me, as im learning, but, when i type dmesg|grep ipw nothing happens
[11:11] <mthakur> yes
[11:11] <mthakur> lol
[11:11] <xstation> nickrud: I have lookeda sun for the i386 binary but cannot find it
[11:11] <suyog> i mean, i want to use breezy but i want gnome 2.14 from dapper repository. Is that possible?
[11:11] <oe> anyone know install sound for doomlegancy?
[11:12] <iXce> suyog => i fear that if your system will upgrade to dapper
[11:12] <john27> crimsun are you there
[11:12] <crimsun> oe: dpkg -l libsdl1.2debian-alsa|grep ^ii
[11:12] <Jowi> suyog: problem is, gnome is so huge with so many dependencies so your're probably beter off to upgrade.
[11:12] <xstation> nickrud: rmp and self extracting file
[11:13] <crimsun> john27: yes, I'm just busy. Hold.
[11:13] <xstation> rpm
[11:13] <Jowi> beter = better
[11:13] <john27> sure
[11:13] <john27> :)
[11:13] <suyog> i see....
[11:13] <molinero> !alien
[11:13] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[11:13] <atmosfear> who has sucessfully installed cedega?
[11:13] <atmosfear> on ubuntu??
[11:13] <molinero> !cedega
[11:13] <nickrud> xstation, self extracting .bin
[11:13] <crimsun> john27: pastebin ``dmesg|grep -i ipw''
[11:13] <atmosfear> Has ne one?
[11:14] <IdleOne> !tell atmosfear about cedega
[11:14] <xstation> nickrud: is that a command
[11:14] <duelboot> IdleOne, what happens when you do that and are not in the sudoers file?
[11:14] <duelboot> IdleOne, mthakur's issue that is
[11:14] <john27> when i did that it just comes back to john@ubuntu:~$
[11:14] <nickrud> xstation, jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin <-- that one
[11:14] <ekok> after installing proftpd do i need to active or start the FTP server in any way.
[11:14] <atmosfear> Idle have u installed cedega?
[11:14] <Jowi> suyog: gnome is definetley better in dapper, but since it is still under development (dapper that is), there are other things that are kind of buggy still. for example Checkconfig is broken atm.
[11:14] <patrick52222> jovi: all i have is port forwarding
[11:15] <crimsun> john27: are you _positive_ you have IPW hardware in it?
[11:15] <redyolk> crimsun: unloading works...
[11:15] <ekok> cos i get connection refused
[11:15] <john27> yes
[11:15] <Jowi> patrick52222: that's the one
[11:15] <IdleOne> duelboot, I would guess it does nothing. but linux doing nothing isnt an accurate description to what it does wether in sudoers or not
[11:15] <xstation> nickrud: i will search for it thanks for yur help
[11:15] <crimsun> john27: pastebin ``lspci -v''
[11:15] <john27> i had it configured without difficulty in suse 9.2 pro
[11:15] <john27> but wanted ubuntu
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> How to create a custom keyboard shortcut to a command in Gnome?
[11:15] <patrick52222> jovi: wat do i put in it
[11:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell tonyyarusso about shortcut
[11:15] <suyog> thanks, Jowi. i'll backup my data so that i can revert back to breezy if necessary.
[11:16] <duelboot> mthakur is the username in sudoers file?
[11:16] <john27> 0000:02:06.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)
[11:16] <john27>         Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 12f5
[11:16] <john27>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 4
[11:16] <john27>         Memory at e0206000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] 
[11:16] <john27>         Capabilities: <available only to root>
[11:16] <crimsun> john27: next time please use pastebin as I asked
[11:16] <duelboot> !pastebin
[11:16] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is Don't paste here. Pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and if you post your text there, it gives you a URL on which your post is accessible to everyone. See also !webboard.
[11:16] <seishi> i need some help, please, pvt-me
[11:16] <duelboot> john ^^^
[11:16] <muep> Ubuntu|Newbie: you have to fix mbr in windows
[11:16] <redyolk> crimsun: the command runs but the trying aplay spits out complaints about alsa unable to open control for card 0
[11:16] <nickrud> xstation, start here: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[11:16] <_jason> Ubuntu|Newbie: you'll need to restore the mbr with a windows install disk recovery prompt
[11:16] <john27> sorry
[11:16] <crimsun> redyolk: do you hear anything?
[11:16] <rmlightning> is there a graphical zip manager that can unzip rar formats?
[11:16] <seishi> i need some help, please, pvt-me..      it's about grub, windows..
[11:17] <redyolk> crimsun: just me typing and my hard drive chittering softly
[11:17] <_jason> rmlightning: if you install unrar-nonfree from multiverse, file-roller will
[11:17] <IdleOne> rmlightning, right click on the file and click extract here
[11:17] <embrik> I'm not able to play nor burn mp3's
[11:17] <john27> i frankly was unsure about how to do that precisely
[11:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell embrik about mp3
[11:17] <crimsun> redyolk: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[11:17] <rmlightning> thanx _jason
[11:18] <Jowi> patrick52222: depends on the router. "add custom service" or what ever it is called in your router. Enter a name, the servers ipaddress, startport 80, endport 80. Click enable. apply the changes. that should be it (but some routers have different procedures)
[11:18] <crimsun> john27: and now, pastebin ``cat /proc/interrupts''
[11:18] <xstation> nickrud: found it I was at that page I just did not know it but thanks and thanks for the install process abd tab that was something new
[11:18] <patrick52222> jovi: ok
[11:18] <redyolk> crimsun: no need.  "amixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error:  No such file or directory
[11:18] <rmlightning> idleone: tried that...won't accept rar...particularry rar.iso
[11:18] <xstation> and
[11:18] <Jowi> patrick52222: almost always the router needs to apply the changes and restart.
[11:19] <john27> i feel quite stupid but i do not know how to pastebin and do not want to inconvenience you by not doing it this time
[11:19] <john27> how do i do that
[11:19] <Jowi> patrick52222: remember that the ipaddress of your server is the local address (192.168.x.x) and not your public address.
[11:19] <patrick52222> ok
[11:19] <Jhair> john27: install this package it's way easier to pastebin with it:
[11:19] <_jason> john27: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , paste whatever you want, then provide the url here
[11:19] <PluckyAli> hi room
[11:19] <Jhair> ii  webboard                          0.2-1breezy                       Copy and paste to a public pastebin server
[11:19] <Jhair> 
[11:19] <nick|here> i'm using kernel image 2.6.12.10-k7 and have installed older versions. if i remove the older versions, it'll be a problem?
[11:20] <john27> thanks jason
[11:21] <nickrud> nick|here, you can safely use synaptic to remove older kernels. You should keep around the 2nd oldest though, for luck :)
[11:21] <oe> crimsun: i install libsdl1.2debian-alsa but dont have sound
[11:21] <nick|here> nickrud: thanks
[11:21] <Jowi> nick|here: not if you're not using them. i always keep one i386 just in case though
[11:21] <crimsun> oe: is the volume non-zero in doomlegacy?
[11:22] <john27> ok crimsun i believe i did thiscorrectly http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11337
[11:22] <possie>  mythgame: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but it is not installable     how can i solve this problem?
[11:22] <molinero> !wifi
[11:22] <ubotu> [wifi]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:22] <_jason> !info libqt3c102-mt
[11:22] <nick|here> Jowi: i'm using 2.6.12.10-k7, should i keep 2.6.12.10-i386 ?? is it necessary
[11:22] <oe> crimsun: no the volume is up
[11:22] <molinero> !qt
[11:22] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[11:22] <_jason> possie: where are you getting mythgame from?
[11:22] <ompaul> #ubuntu-help
[11:23] <crimsun> redyolk: ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[11:23] <possie> _jason, what is the easiest way to see this?  since i'm doing apt-get install mythtv in ubunty breezy
[11:23] <Jowi> nick|here: it is a personal preference really. i use it as a backup. nickrud advice is equally good.
[11:23] <redyolk> crimsun: ``--- no soundcards ---""
[11:23] <patrick52222> do i have to set anything else up in apache2
[11:24] <oe> crimsun: but the sound in ubuntu is ok
[11:24] <crimsun> redyolk: please reboot with apm=on (remove any references to acpi in your kernel command line)
[11:24] <Jowi> !apache
[11:24] <ubotu> somebody said apache was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:24] <redyolk> crimsun: oughtn't I to set it to off if we want to get rid of it?
[11:24] <nick|here> Jowi: Now i'm installing vanilla kernel,then i will keep the current for backup and remove the others. In the end i will have 2.6.12.10-k7 and vanilla
[11:25] <redyolk> anyway biab
[11:25] <nick|here> jowi: thanks for your help
[11:25] <_jason> possie: interesting, mythgame does depend on libqt3c102-mt for me too, yet I can't find libqt3c102-mt anywhere...
[11:25] <crimsun> redyolk: apm=on should suffice
[11:25] <Jowi> nick|here: sounds good. i use the vanilla as well with a special via patch, and keep an i386 around in case i need it later on.
[11:25] <crimsun> oe: System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup
[11:26] <possie> _jason, i've had this problem for over a month now, but i thought it had something todo with the repository
[11:26] <john27> crimsun, did i do that correctly
[11:26] <john27> ?
[11:26] <crimsun> john27: do you have multiple network adapters in that computer?
[11:26] <poningru> !init
[11:26] <ubotu> poningru: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:26] <john27> yes, an ethernet card and the wireless
[11:26] <john27> i remember that in suse i had to disable the ethernet card
[11:27] <seishi> i have ubuntu at hd1(master), and a win at hd2(slave), what can i do to have win on boot menu?   (my english is very, very bad, i'm confuse about 'at' 'on')
[11:27] <_jason> possie: weird, looks like a problem as far as I can tell, but I don't know much about it.  If no one else here knows about libqt3c102-mt, you might want to try to repeat your question at #kubuntu since it's libqt, they might know more
[11:27] <nick|here> Jowi: i have compiled vanilla by myself, when compiling finished give me a deb package named blablba_i386. should not be k7?? i used k7 config ?
[11:27] <crimsun> nick|here: no, _i386 is correct.
[11:28] <possie> _jason, k thanks
[11:28] <nick|here> crimsun, thanks, i thought i did something wrong
[11:28] <_jason> possie: it used to be a package in hoary judging by packages.ubuntu.com but it's gone now
[11:28] <[cro] smiley> how to get date of tomorrow in console?
[11:29] <crimsun> john27: yes, it looks like you'll have to do something similar, because your acpi config (hardware) is not assigning required resources to the ipw2000bg chipset
[11:29] <seishi> \o_
[11:29] <crimsun> ipw2200bg, rather
[11:29] <Jowi> nick|here: the kernel will be in linux-x.x.x/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
[11:29] <seishi> ..
[11:29] <Jowi> nick|here: i think. never did a k7
[11:30] <possie> _jason, well luckly i'm not the only one, since this tend to happen a lot ;-)
[11:30] <john27> i tried following everything in this HOWTO except the wpa stuff because i dont currently have that enabled
[11:30] <john27> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[11:30] <john27> it seemed to all work well with respect to building ipw2200 and ieee80211
[11:31] <_jason> possie: yeah http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/mythgame <- you can see it says package not available.  It probably changed name to libqt3-mt afaict and the dep wasn't updated
[11:31] <fury|Smoke> hello
[11:31] <reapser> ok guys still cant boot my WINDOWS OS.....I tried everything..
[11:31] <seishi> me too
[11:31] <oe> crimsun: the sound is enable, but i disable and enable again and the sound work =D, now i can play doom in linux (i newbie), Thank you!
[11:31] <[FaBiTo] > hi
[11:31] <crimsun> ( libqt3-mt-dev should pull the appropriate binary)
[11:32] <_jason> possie: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mythgame/+bug/37484
[11:32] <crimsun> oe: np
[11:32] <[cro] smiley> reapser, try adding "makeactive" in your grub meni
[11:32] <Jowi> nick|here: i believe k7 is a subcategori for the i386 architecture, no?
[11:32] <rishi> does anyone use evolution for mail?
[11:32] <[cro] smiley> rishi, i use
[11:32] <reapser> how do u do that..??
[11:33] <rishi> [cro] smiley, do you have it set up to run in the system tray?
[11:33] <possie> _jason, hehe i also just got it thanks
[11:33] <[cro] smiley> rishi, no
[11:33] <rishi> [cro] smiley, is there a way to do it that you know of?
[11:33] <fury|Smoke> how do i install gtk-gnutella 0.96.1?
[11:33] <fury|Smoke> i only see the older version
[11:34] <[cro] smiley> reapser, when you start your computer do you get grub meni that asks you to choose OS?
[11:34] <reapser> yes
[11:34] <fraggsta> I don't understand why but apt-cache is not returning as many results as it should.  I type "apt-cache search blobwars" and it returns nothing.  I type "apt-get install blobwars and it says it's going to install the blowars package.  Why, and how do I fix it?
[11:35] <tar_> Does anyone know how to stop the application crashes that happen when you use uim-anthy?
[11:35] <[cro] smiley> reapser, ok, select XP and press "e" to edit, and then add new line with command: "makeactive"
[11:35] <Jowi> fraggsta: probably a typo. i get it when i search for it.
[11:35] <[cro] smiley> reapser, save and try to boot
[11:35] <rmlightning> jason: i did what u said, but when i use fileroller to extract it says error: password wrong?  i typed in my password, however :(
[11:35] <fraggsta> No, this isn't a typo.
[11:35] <nick|here> Jowi: i have booted vanilla know, and vanilla can't mount my ntfs disks??(using ck9 patchset)
[11:35] <rishi> does anyone know if you can run Evolution in the system try on minimize, like outlook does?
[11:36] <fraggsta> jrw6@pants:~ $ apt-cache search blobwar
[11:36] <rishi> tray*
[11:36] <fraggsta> results in nothing
[11:36] <Jowi> nick|here: wait, checking the kernel config
[11:36] <Stormx2> fraggsta: Maybe sudo apt-get update?
[11:36] <reapser> crosmiley ..so obly highlite Windows and press E rite..??
[11:36] <reapser> only...^^^
[11:36] <fraggsta> Yup, I've tried that every time.  This has been going on for weeks though, and I apt-get update every day.
[11:37] <[cro] smiley> rishi, try using program alltray
[11:37] <rishi> [cro] smiley, is that in the repos?
[11:37] <john27> any other ideas crimsun
[11:37] <_jason> can I force aptitude to ignore dependencies and install what it can?  (I am not actually going to do this)
[11:37] <[cro] smiley> reapser, yes
[11:37] <xstation> nickrud; many thanks can you tell me what fakeroot does
[11:37] <john27> ?
[11:37] <[cro] smiley> rishi, i dont know, try synaptic
[11:38] <rishi> [cro] smiley, aight, thanks!
[11:38] <fraggsta> Is there any way to get dpkg to completely rebuild the database of available packages?  I think that's what I need to do, since it doesn't appear to be updating the list of available packages properly.
[11:38] <crimsun> no need to build ieee80211+ipw2200. Just disable the wired LAN controller in bios, and make sure the wireless controller is enablde.
[11:38] <crimsun> enabled^
[11:38] <crimsun> john27: ^
[11:38] <reapser> how Do I save though  I tried that before ...and press B to boot .....but It doesnt do anything
[11:38] <nickrud> xstation, it fakes out installers, making them think they have root privileges, check man fakeroot for details
[11:39] <Thug-N-Me> why i cannot get Azureus installed ?
[11:39] <[cro] smiley> reapser, wait a second
[11:39] <xstation> nickrud: i will thanks
[11:39] <john27> i need to go into the bios?  in suse, you just use Yast
[11:39] <john27> is there anyway to use Ubuntu to disable the ethernet card?
[11:39] <CountZ> hey yo, is there a GUI tool for l2tpns?
[11:39] <crimsun> john27: no, you don't _have_ to use the bios. Just unload the driver for your wired LAN controller.
[11:39] <CountZ> john27: ifdown eth0 <-- disables eth0
[11:39] <john27> ok
[11:39] <Jowi> nick|here: you must compile in File systems -> Dos/Fat/NT -> NTFS (NLS if might be called)
[11:39] <Thug-N-Me>  azureus: Depends: j2re1.5 but it is not installable
[11:39] <fraggsta> Thug-N-Me: Use automatix to install it.  You know how to use google, right..
[11:40] <john27> ok then just ifup eth1?
[11:40] <Thug-N-Me> fraggsta azureus: Depends: j2re1.5 but it is not installable
[11:40] <fraggsta> Thug-N-Me: Yes, automatix can go and fetch Java for you.
[11:40] <nick|here> Jowi: how can i learn it now? is there a command?
[11:40] <patrick52222> is it possible to make a mail type server
[11:40] <graveson> is there any reference of which apps work well with ubuntu and wine
[11:41] <fraggsta> winehq.com
[11:41] <Jowi> no, you must recompile the kernel (should be alot quicker now that you already done it once). make menuconfig, and select it from there (either as a module or compiled).
[11:41] <molinero> !gparted
[11:41] <ubotu> hmm... gparted is a partition editor. As always when manipulating partitions, backup your important data. When resizing NTFS partitions PLEASE defrag first to avoid potential data loss. There is a gparted livecd at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[11:41] <ThomasR> i heard that there is a lite ubuntu or something for older machines?
[11:42] <patrick52222> so each member of my family acn have an email which is meaning full   link    thewife@kinghome which forwards it out to the isp email like lorraine.king60@ntlworld.com
[11:42] <Jowi> nick|here: if you already selected it but as a module, you should be able to modprobe/insmod it
[11:42] <Thug-N-Me> fraggsta sudo dpkg -i automatix_5.7-3_i386.deb would do the trick ?
[11:42] <laffer-pt> anybody running ddclient behind a router sucessefully?
[11:42] <fraggsta> Thug-N-Me: yes
[11:42] <fraggsta> Thug-N-Me: then run it by doing "sudo Automatix"
[11:42] <ompaul> !automatix
[11:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:43] <john27> ok
[11:43] <john27> when i tried to use ifup eth1
[11:43] <Thug-N-Me> hmm
[11:43] <ompaul> Thug-N-Me, you see that one?
[11:43] <john27> i got this: Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[11:43] <rmlightning> heh.  i am an idiot.  got last problem figured out
[11:43] <Thug-N-Me> ueaj
[11:43] <nick|here> Jowi: boran@sarifil:~$ lsmod | grep ntfs
[11:43] <nick|here> ntfs                  110256  0
[11:43] <Thug-N-Me> ompaul yeah
[11:44] <Thug-N-Me> ompaul why are you tellng me that now ?
[11:44] <Thug-N-Me> :)
[11:44] <nalioth> Thug-N-Me: automatix breaks things.
[11:44] <nalioth> Thug-N-Me: please do not recommend it here
[11:44] <CountZ> someone please remind me the official alternative to automatix or whatever it is
[11:44] <Thug-N-Me> i didnt recommend it
[11:44] <ompaul> !easyubuntu
[11:44] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[11:44] <CountZ> ah yes that's the one
[11:44] <Thug-N-Me> ompaul now i run  dpkg -i automatix_5.7-3_i386.deb   what should i do now ?
[11:44] <rmlightning> where is a good place to learn about linux programming?  like python?
[11:45] <Thug-N-Me> ompaul to get everything back to normal ?
[11:45] <[cro] smiley> reapser, u here?
[11:45] <reapser> yes
[11:45] <Seveas> Thug-N-Me, sudo dpkg -P automatix
[11:45] <john27> crimsun?
[11:45] <Seveas> and NEVER use it again
[11:45] <Thug-N-Me> ok
[11:46] <Thug-N-Me> Seveas ok thanks
[11:46] <john27> could anyone help me out of this problem?
[11:46] <[cro] smiley> reaps, my mistake. you have to add "makeactive" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:46] <[cro] smiley>  yust before "chainloader     +1
[11:46] <[cro] smiley> "
[11:46] <jariep1_> is alsaconf included with ubuntu?
[11:46] <john27> i have tried many things to no avail
[11:46] <ompaul> jariep1_, if you install it
[11:46] <Seveas> !find alsaconf
[11:46] <jariep1_> ok
[11:46] <jariep1_> thank you
[11:46] <reapser> smiley you here..??
[11:46] <[cro] smiley> reapser,  my mistake. you have to add "makeactive" in /boot/grub/menu.lst yust before "chainloader  +1
[11:46] <[cro] smiley> "
[11:47] <Jowi> nick|here: is "ntfs" the only thing needed to read/mount it? (i never needed that driver)
[11:47] <mwe> ompaul: really? what package provides alsaconf?
[11:47] <reapser> ok there is my question....How do I know that is saved.....
[11:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'alsaconf' returned no results.
[11:47] <marco_> hi someone knows how apply a patch to a driver ...?
[11:48] <Jowi> nick|here: maybe someone else has that info... :-/
[11:48] <marco_> and then compile i think..
[11:48] <ompaul> jariep1_, to get it you need  alsa-base
[11:48] <dabaR> marco_: in thin strips.
[11:48] <[cro] smiley> reapser, try cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:48] <reapser> I tried that too....and saved it and then reboot but it doesnt change anything
[11:48] <ompaul> mwe ^^
[11:48] <possie> how can i install a packages via apt an not make it check for dependencies? i thougth 'apt-get --force-depends install foo' but this doesn't seem to work
 ?
[11:48] <john27> i am never buying a centrino based laptop again
[11:48] <[cro] smiley> reapser, you should see content of the file
[11:49] <Crazy_Man> john27: I thought they were the kings of Linux compatibility
[11:49] <nick|here> Jowi: i found the solution in ubuntuforums.they told remove evms. but when i try to remove evms apt tells me it's going to remove ubuntu-standart,evms and evms-curses. should it be problem?
[11:49] <nalioth> Seveas: tab check
[11:49] <ompaul> possie, that depends on what your trying to install - what is the program you want? and what your talking about may kill your box in new and interesting ways
[11:49] <reapser> /boot/grub/menu.lst   this file..rite?
[11:49] <john27> yeah right
[11:49] <john27> lol
[11:49] <[cro] smiley> reapser, yes
 what problem you have with centrino?? i have one too
[11:49] <john27> its driving me nuts, i have been working to get this wireless card to work for 3 hours
[11:49] <hyphenated> john27: searched the wiki?
[11:50] <john27> the system is not recognizing my card
[11:50] <reapser> ok and i did ....cat /boot/grub/menu.lst   trying to edit it.....BUT how do go from there..??
[11:50] <jariep1_> How do I configure sound in Ubuntu?
[11:50] <john27> i looked through the forums exhaustively
[11:50] <hyphenated> john27: you have an intel wireless card? mine works perfectly. are you sure it's enabled in BIOS and you haven't accidentally disabled radio?
[11:50] <possie> ompaul, well the package mythgame , now this depends on a wrong package so i'm trying to force the installation without letting it check for that certain dependency
[11:50] <[cro] smiley> reapser, did you edited it?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> you can edit with the cat command?
[11:50] <jariep1_> My sound card wasn't detected
  i have the wireless  card working but it comes an goes, so its a little slow
[11:50] <hyphenated> gnomefreak: no, that's not what it's for
[11:51] <Jowi> nick|here: nope, no problem. but can't you just remove evms from the rc2.d? "sudo update-rc.d -f evms remove"
[11:51] <gnomefreak> i didnt think so :(
[11:51] <jariep1_> alsa base is installed
[11:51] <john27> well, it was working on this laptop with suse 9.2 pro
[11:51] <gnomefreak> good thing im lost
[11:51] <Engla> How do I connect events to buttons? I have an extra button on my mouse and xev says it's button 8
[11:51] <jariep1_> and alsa utilities
[11:51] <john27> so it should be enabled in the bios
  what model is your lap
[11:51] <ompaul> possie you can install that it is in the repo multiverse
[11:51] <reapser> i edit it....but it doenst change anytinhg...when i close and use this command ..../boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:51] <ltR20> Hello guys, i can not play videos in xine or any other video program. The video plays but i get no audio and it's pissing me off how do i fix this? i installed the win32 codecs or whatever they're called.
[11:51] <ompaul> !tell possie about repos
[11:51] <laffer-pt> anybody running ddclient behind a router sucessefully?
[11:51] <spottyfox> Is Xubuntu appropriate for a desktop machine for nearly computer-illiterate parents that just want a browser and email? :D
[11:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell ltR20 about multimedia
[11:51] <nick|here> Jowi: thanks. i have found the definite solution for my problem in forums.i'm trying atm. if nothing changed i will try to remove evms
[11:52] <john27> compaq presario m2000
[11:52] <hyphenated> john27: according to what marco_ copy+pasted, you had it working, but slowly, is that right?
[11:52] <[cro] smiley> reapser, if you saved it then you must reboot. then look at XP options in grub
[11:52] <Jowi> nick|here: cool
[11:52] <harisund> spottyfox: I would suggest Ubuntu (Gnome desktop)
[11:52] <john27> i had it working under suse 9.2 pro
[11:52] <john27> not ubuntu
[11:52] <gnomefreak> spottyfox: it depends on how illertate with pcs they are
[11:52] <[cro] smiley> reapser, if you have "makeactive" try to boot it
[11:52] <john27> unfortunate too because i really like ubuntu
[11:52] <nick|here> Jowi: you can see the post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103900&page=1&pp=10
[11:52] <spottyfox> I was thinking Xu, since the interface is non-intimidating.
[11:53] <reapser> i did that too...but it still gives me that same error
[11:53] <jariep1_> does anybody know if ubuntu includes alsaconf with alsa-base and alsa-utilities?
 do you know how patch a drver source
[11:53] <harisund> spottyfox: Personally, Xubuntu is better if you are low on hard disk space, processor power, memory... otherwise I am sure the parents would enjoy the GNome look and feel
[11:53] <jariep1_> I have those two installed
 i have the patch but i dont know how patch the driver
[11:53] <[cro] smiley> reapser, do you have "makeactive" under  XP options when you try to boot?
[11:53] <john27> i any ideas marco and hyphenated?
[11:53] <private_meta> hello there... can someone affirm if the following is a major problem for me: i gave my computer to support and they switched a standard athlon 3k+ to a athlon64... i'll get it back tomorrow or so... and i would wanna know if i get problems with starting ubuntu
[11:53] <gnomefreak> spottyfox: it is but its very light as plain xubuntu if you do start them on that make sure the menu is set up as you want it (dappers xubuntu has a menu in top left corner
[11:53] <hyphenated> marco_: yes, but it has many steps and takes a webpage to explain it, not a chat on IRC. please google for a howto
[11:53] <jariep1_> but I don't know which package includes alsaconf
[11:53] <reapser> Yes..
[11:54] <[cro] smiley> reapser, what error do you get?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> other than my background what is intimadating about gnome?
[11:54] <duelboot> jariepl_, I have both installed and have alsa.conf
[11:54] <duelboot> gnomefreak :)
[11:54] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:54] <john27> i have tried using the directions on several webpages unsuccessfully
 what is you wireless card
[11:55] <gnomefreak> sorry duelboot i had to run out and get a gas hose for bike did you find what you needed?
[11:55] <[cro] smiley> reapser, you here?
 ok thanks
[11:55] <reapser> filesystem unknown partition type 0x7
[11:55] <duelboot> gnomefreak: when?  if from the other day, yes I did between this group and google I got it all
[11:55] <gnomefreak> today duelboot
[11:55] <hyphenated> john27: know how to use a shell?
[11:56] <spottyfox> harisund: I'm aiming for something as simple as possible.
[11:56] <duelboot> gnomefreak, yes, I'm all good...Ubuntu rocks
[11:56] <john27> yes but am not an expert (still learning)
[11:56] <jcoxon> hey all
[11:56] <john27> i try to use it as much as poss
[11:56] <hyphenated> john27: you just need to type in some commands and put the output into a pastebin :-)
[11:56] <[cro] smiley> reapser, i don't know, maybe u did somthing wrong with ubuntu installation
[11:57] <hyphenated> john27: firstly, "dmesg | grep ipw", then "iwconfig" .. run those in a shell and put the output in a pastebin.
[11:57] <john27> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11340
[11:57] <spottyfox> AS far as my own installation, I love Gnome. My only gripe is that my TV card doesn't work, but that's more a problem with ATI, AFAIK
[11:57] <reapser> this... filesystem unknown partition type 0x7  ERROR is common but i cant seem to know how ti fix it..
[11:58] <Jowi> nick|here: success?
[11:58] <reapser> is frustrating me to the point that I wanna formatt my whole HD
[11:58] <john27> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11341
[11:58] <reapser> start clean with XP
[11:59] <hyphenated> john27: cool. now "lsmod | grep ipw" .. if there's any output, put that in a pastebin
[11:59] <nick|here> Jowi: compiling kernel again atm. it's going to success because there is a kernel-patch for this
[11:59] <[cro] smiley> reapser, you can try to change root (hd0,0) to rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[11:59] <john27> no output for that one
[12:00] <[cro] smiley> reapser, see if that fixes the problem
[12:00] <hyphenated> john27: interesting. 'sudo modprobe ipw2200'