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| iGotNoTime | You all talk wayyyyy too much! | 02:50 |
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| Sergi0 | iGotNoTime: i cant keep up too | 03:12 |
| iGotNoTime | sooo fast, drives me nuts | 03:13 |
| iGotNoTime | thank god for logging :) | 03:13 |
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| FreshWater | whats so good about ubuntu/edubuntu, what packages does the installer come with? | 03:24 |
| Burgundavia | FreshWater: do you mean, what is installed by default? | 03:25 |
| FreshWater | yeah, so there are packages downloadable aswell | 03:26 |
| FreshWater | just give a link to | 03:26 |
| Sergi0 | FreshWater: u try'd synaptic? | 03:26 |
| Burgundavia | FreshWater: in a nutshell, ubuntu is designed to be an easy to use linux that retains the powerful linux stuff | 03:26 |
| Burgundavia | FreshWater: edubuntu is a custom version of Ubuntu for educators | 03:27 |
| FreshWater | i'm a gentoo user, but want to find out about ubuntu/ | 03:27 |
| Burgundavia | basically, edubuntu is ubuntu + educational apps | 03:27 |
| Burgundavia | + ltsp | 03:27 |
| Burgundavia | FreshWater: http://edubuntu.org/tour.html | 03:27 |
| Burgundavia | FreshWater: and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/Desktop (a work in progress, but it talks about what ubuntu is, on hte desktop) | 03:28 |
| FreshWater | ok had a look, but, other than the packages on the CD, is there an easy way to install others? | 03:31 |
| Burgundavia | FreshWater: absolutely | 03:31 |
| Burgundavia | FreshWater: ubuntu is debian based and includes apt, with two very easy graphical front ends | 03:32 |
| Burgundavia | grab the live cd and look at Add/Remove on the Applications menu | 03:32 |
| FreshWater | ok yeah APT, i read about that, cheers | 03:32 |
| Burgundavia | FreshWater: what are you looking for in a distro? | 03:33 |
| FreshWater | like i said i use Gentoo, that suits me just fine, but doing some research for some newbies, and want to get my fact straight | 03:34 |
| iGotNoTime | I am a noob, want an opinion? | 03:37 |
| iGotNoTime | I have tried several distros straight from XP | 03:37 |
| iGotNoTime | Xandros was good but messed up one of my hard drives trying to mount..... | 03:38 |
| iGotNoTime | Mepis feels very outdated.... | 03:38 |
| Burgundavia | FreshWater: having converted two people from windows straight to Ubuntu, I can tell you that they love it | 03:38 |
| iGotNoTime | Kubuntu had install issues with the cdrom | 03:38 |
| Burgundavia | one was moderately technical, the other not at all | 03:38 |
| iGotNoTime | Ubuntu had kernal mismatch on the iso | 03:38 |
| iGotNoTime | and Edubuntu installed flawless and has an awesome community giving support 24 hours :) | 03:39 |
| iGotNoTime | I have since install Edu onto 3 computers and my laptop | 03:39 |
| iGotNoTime | my brother now uses it and even my parents now use it | 03:39 |
| iGotNoTime | they love it | 03:39 |
| iGotNoTime | I am happy, and never have had any problems that did not get resolved just from IRC | 03:40 |
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| iGotNoTime | SUSE was a nightmare because I am a noob, same with Gentoo :) | 03:40 |
| iGotNoTime | CentOS cooked my Bios and I had to buy another motherboard | 03:41 |
| iGotNoTime | Edubuntu is my favorite and I am only 6 weeks into it :) | 03:41 |
| iGotNoTime | perfect for noobs like me :) | 03:41 |
| iGotNoTime | I don't even know if I run Breezy or Dapper :P It just works LOL | 03:43 |
| Sergi0 | iGotNoTime: then probaly u got breezy, that works. dapper is not very productive :) (well for me atm) | 03:44 |
| iGotNoTime | hehe | 03:44 |
| FreshWater | yes i could imagine Gentoo being a nightmare for a noob :) | 03:55 |
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| cafuego_ | !lart me | 04:02 |
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| cafuego_ | lovely | 04:03 |
| bimberi | cafuego_: cheers! :) | 04:09 |
| cafuego_ | !lart bimberi | 04:14 |
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| cafuego_ | bimberi: no worries :-) | 04:14 |
| === bimberi got a better deal than cafuego_ there | ||
| Sergi0 | rofl | 04:17 |
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| cafuego_ | not necessarily a golden one, but hey | 04:21 |
| cafuego_ | who can complain in these times of water restrictions ;-) | 04:21 |
| Sergi0 | :) | 04:27 |
| bimberi | yep, parched here too - we'll be in those Dune-style reticulation suits soon | 04:33 |
| bimberi | !ltsp | 04:33 |
| ubotu | rumour has it, ltsp is when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server. | 04:33 |
| bimberi | !ltsperror is when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server. | 04:34 |
| ubotu | bimberi: okay | 04:34 |
| Sergi0 | !ltsperror | 04:35 |
| ubotu | I guess ltsperror is when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server. | 04:35 |
| Sergi0 | oh, i was away | 04:35 |
| Sergi0 | bye then :) | 04:35 |
| bimberi | !no ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy). See also http://www.ltsp.org/ | 04:36 |
| ubotu | okay, bimberi | 04:36 |
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| iGotNoTime | BOO!!! | 06:36 |
| iGotNoTime | Ha I scared the hell outta all you fools :P | 06:36 |
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| iGotNoTime | got to admit it was good ;) | 06:38 |
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| bimberi | highvoltage... | 08:21 |
| bimberi | !goodmorning | 08:21 |
| ubotu | Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #edubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :) | 08:21 |
| bimberi | :) | 08:21 |
| highvoltage | morning bimberi! | 08:21 |
| highvoltage | he. hi ubotu | 08:21 |
| highvoltage | !edubuntu | 08:22 |
| ubotu | Edubuntu is the education version of ubuntu (essentially ubuntu + educational apps + ltsp). Website - http://www.edubuntu.org. Tour - http://edubuntu.org/tour.html | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | wow, we have our own bot to abuse | 08:22 |
| === Burgundavia grins and kicks ubotu | ||
| JaneW | To all those that were pinging me over the week-end. I am here now... | 08:25 |
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| Burgundavia | JaneW: I was not pinging you, but good morning | 08:26 |
| Burgundavia | HedgeMage: salut | 08:26 |
| JaneW | hi Burgundavia | 08:26 |
| HedgeMage | hi Burgundavia | 08:26 |
| JaneW | I have a feeling it was highvoltage/Pygi/spacey | 08:26 |
| Burgundavia | I see the light at the end of the tunnel for the Ubuntu book | 08:26 |
| Burgundavia | which means I get more time to work on other pieces of docs, like the edubuntu install stuff | 08:27 |
| highvoltage | hi JaneW | 08:29 |
| JaneW | Burgundavia: cool | 08:29 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: hello | 08:30 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: Edubuntu has some serious competition, did you see? | 08:30 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/barbieOS.htm | 08:30 |
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| jsgotangco | seriously, that is one OS my daughter would use over ubuntu | 08:30 |
| JaneW | hahaha | 08:30 |
| JaneW | that won;t be free in any sense of the word | 08:31 |
| jsgotangco | but im sure my kid will use it | 08:31 |
| JaneW | ok so we need ubuntu with a pink skin... | 08:32 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: hmmm... that might seriously be a good idea. | 08:32 |
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| highvoltage | Burgundavia: probably not as default theme though :) | 08:33 |
| === JaneW would hate it, but if pre-pubescent grisl are a big market and a way to attact females to technology, then hey why not? | ||
| JaneW | grisl!? | 08:34 |
| JaneW | that was *meant* to say girls | 08:34 |
| JaneW | serious freudian there | 08:34 |
| Burgundavia | http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/PlusPack | 08:35 |
| jsgotangco | we'll need serious backing from mattel though if we would like to use the image | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | why not create our own women to do it? | 08:35 |
| JaneW | I would stay away from Barbie per se | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | make it more sciency/techy | 08:36 |
| Burgundavia | to encourage women into those areas | 08:36 |
| JaneW | and just got with a pink girly theme | 08:36 |
| JaneW | and possbly a custom character | 08:36 |
| JaneW | and Brat's are far cooler than Barbie | 08:36 |
| JaneW | IMHO | 08:36 |
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| jsgotangco | no! i like my women blond and plastic! | 08:36 |
| JaneW | hehe | 08:37 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco: that says things about you I didn't need to know :) | 08:37 |
| jsgotangco | wahahaha | 08:37 |
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| highvoltage | jsgotangco: sick? | 08:41 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: how's the recovery from the fall going? | 08:41 |
| JaneW | fall? | 08:43 |
| jsgotangco | long story | 08:45 |
| JaneW | oic | 08:48 |
| highvoltage | bedtime... i wish :) | 09:08 |
| === highvoltage has some oats and rooibos tea | ||
| JaneW | yum | 09:10 |
| highvoltage | yum? | 09:12 |
| === highvoltage is still getting used to eating healthier | ||
| Burgundavia | it is great, rooibos has been getting cheaper in Canada recently | 09:13 |
| Burgundavia | makes my fix less expensive | 09:13 |
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| highvoltage | rooibos tea is great yes. you can actually drink something that's not water that doesn't contain sugar or caffeine or anything else that you shouldn't drink | 09:16 |
| Pygi | bah, highvoltage =P | 09:18 |
| Burgundavia | Pygi: healthy things are good for you | 09:18 |
| Pygi | Burgundavia: have I said anything? ^_^ | 09:19 |
| Pygi | Burgundavia: sleep is healty for me ^_^ | 09:19 |
| === JaneW hasn;t had rooibos for a while | ||
| JaneW | I go through phases with it | 09:19 |
| === JaneW drinks far too much coffee atm | ||
| Pygi | hi Jane, how are you ? ^_^ | 09:20 |
| === JaneW is ok | ||
| JaneW | apart from horribly stiff neck | 09:20 |
| JaneW | not sure why | 09:20 |
| Pygi | I started assembling new layout, and I'll probably send it today...just having problems with my idiotic ISP | 09:21 |
| JaneW | great thanks | 09:21 |
| Pygi | I still don't see how was I able to get 1.6GB download, and just 4MB upload in 3 hours considering I was idle :-/ | 09:22 |
| Pygi | and relation download:upload isn't good | 09:22 |
| Pygi | bah, just problems with this ISP :-/ | 09:23 |
| Pygi | JaneW: when can we setup a meeting? | 09:24 |
| JaneW | sure | 09:25 |
| Pygi | JaneW: sure what? =P When do you, highvoltage, and spacey have time (and maybe ogra) have time? =P | 09:26 |
| JaneW | we'll need to wait for ogra to get in, to check his current availability | 09:27 |
| Pygi | JaneW: ah, k, agreed ^_^ | 09:27 |
| JaneW | I can make myself available almost anytime (with some prior warning) between 7:00 - 14:00 UTC | 09:27 |
| JaneW | and sometimes after that, but I have other commitments later than that | 09:28 |
| Pygi | JaneW: I can from 9:00 - 14:00 UTC | 09:30 |
| Pygi | I believe at least :-/ | 09:30 |
| Pygi | at | 09:30 |
| Pygi | at least this week...but you have to say earlier... | 09:30 |
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| Pygi | at 14:00 UTC must be end of meeting | 09:34 |
| JaneW | yes preferably | 09:38 |
| Pygi | JaneW: yup, for me as well ^_^ | 09:40 |
| spacey | i can as well | 09:52 |
| spacey | except today | 09:52 |
| spacey | :p | 09:52 |
| Pygi | spacey: well, not today | 09:53 |
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| Pygi | highvoltage: are you available this week from 9:00 UTC to 14:00 UTC? | 10:04 |
| highvoltage | Pygi: i'm at work, during that time, but i could take a break somewhere in there | 10:05 |
| Pygi | highvoltage: well, I have to cancel some of things as well, so we'll need to agree on time like few days before | 10:06 |
| Pygi | and jane, ogra, and spacey have to do same probably | 10:06 |
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| jsgotangco | Seveas: flash mob meeting? | 11:49 |
| Seveas | hm? | 11:50 |
| jsgotangco | in -meeting | 11:51 |
| jsgotangco | or a CoC review? | 11:51 |
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| highvoltage | hmm... left channel by accident. | 11:54 |
| highvoltage | for those not in #ubuntu-meeting, the CC supports the concept of forming Edubuntu loco teams | 11:54 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm | 11:55 |
| jsgotangco | what's the difference? | 11:55 |
| highvoltage | The Italian loco team will then be the first Edubuntu loco team (or at least, most likely) | 11:55 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: edubuntu loco team will be a team that focusses on educational and school related stuff. | 11:55 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: it has also been made clear that the loco teams aren't in competition with each other, so they're obliged to collaborate | 11:56 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: so work shouldn't be repeated in the different teams | 11:56 |
| jsgotangco | i would know some people interested on the idea though | 11:56 |
| highvoltage | yep, i suppose we'll see some more teams popping up in the following weeks | 11:57 |
| ogra | damned, i missed CC ... | 12:07 |
| highvoltage | ogra: it's running a bit late, so it's still running. i think members are up next | 12:07 |
| ogra | yep, seen | 12:08 |
| jsgotangco | i didnt know today was CC either, i just had my car fixed | 12:09 |
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| JaneW | jsgotangco: flash mob? | 12:49 |
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| pips1 | JaneW, flash mobs were a craze last year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_mobs | 01:02 |
| lucasvo | is it possible that ubuntu live cd hangs because of a broken harddisk? | 01:03 |
| JaneW | ah, I know what a flash mob is, I was thinking this was a meeting re 'flash' | 01:05 |
| JaneW | dang | 01:05 |
| JaneW | clutching at straws | 01:05 |
| pips1 | JaneW, I'm actually quite embarassed to say I attended one of these silly things and it turned out that there were more reporters there than flash mobbers ;-D | 01:07 |
| JaneW | LOL | 01:08 |
| JaneW | pips1: in RL you mean? | 01:08 |
| pips1 | yep | 01:08 |
| JaneW | pips1: one of the naked ones? | 01:08 |
| JaneW | 8) | 01:08 |
| pips1 | hahaha, no | 01:08 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 01:08 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: pingy | 03:02 |
| ogra | pongy | 03:02 |
| highvoltage | :) | 03:02 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i've gotten further with the edubuntu theme this weekend | 03:02 |
| ogra | for the website ? | 03:03 |
| ogra | or the desktop ? | 03:03 |
| highvoltage | ogra: you'll notice it looks slightly more like edubuntu-gtk theme now: http://proto.edubuntu.org | 03:03 |
| highvoltage | (the website) | 03:03 |
| highvoltage | although it still needs quite a bit of work. | 03:03 |
| ogra | incredible ... | 03:04 |
| highvoltage | i'll get as much of the edubuntu artwork in there when it's finalised, so that things feel the same | 03:04 |
| ogra | looks *very* cool | 03:04 |
| highvoltage | thanks :) | 03:04 |
| ogra | yes, even the colors might change, i havent heard back from silbs yet ... JaneW probably knows more | 03:04 |
| highvoltage | ok. once i have all the layout and basic stuffies done, changing the colours a bit won't be a big deal. | 03:05 |
| ogra | good | 03:05 |
| ogra | i hope we can keep them this way ... | 03:05 |
| highvoltage | i'll stick to current edubuntu stuff as close as possible, and then update the site scheme as the distro changes. | 03:05 |
| ogra | yep | 03:05 |
| ogra | thats good | 03:05 |
| highvoltage | yeah, I would never say yes to a red theme, ever... before. | 03:05 |
| highvoltage | but it actually looks *very* good in edubuntu | 03:06 |
| ogra | yep | 03:06 |
| highvoltage | i think we'll have a very nice edubuntu website / theme combination, possibly the nicest between edubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu (not that we're competing, of course) | 03:07 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i also realised that images didn't work in that last 'getting started' guide i've sent you | 03:07 |
| ogra | dunno, i dont know the xubuntu page yet and i guess kubuntu will be adjusted | 03:07 |
| highvoltage | ogra: there's one that works on the proto site atm: http://proto.edubuntu.org/gettingstarted | 03:08 |
| ogra | oh, there were more already ? | 03:08 |
| highvoltage | more? | 03:08 |
| JaneW | ogra: you still need to send silbs the install instructions | 03:09 |
| ogra | JaneW, i know ... | 03:09 |
| JaneW | ogra: I have not heard anymore yet... | 03:09 |
| ogra | i have it open on my desk :) | 03:09 |
| ogra | (the mail that is) | 03:09 |
| highvoltage | install instructions? | 03:10 |
| ogra | for the CD cover | 03:10 |
| highvoltage | aah | 03:10 |
| JaneW | ogra: K thanks | 03:10 |
| ogra | that needs a decision first on how much i want on the cover ... it could only be ... "after install open this or that document" or even more detailed ones like the InstallNotes wikipage | 03:11 |
| highvoltage | ogra: can't we get the getting started guide in html on the CD? | 03:12 |
| highvoltage | ogra: then we could point to that on the disc | 03:12 |
| highvoltage | ogra: also, would it be possible to have documentation in a VT while the installation takes place (for edgy) | 03:13 |
| ogra | yes, thats waht i want ... but the question is if we want the "if you just hit enter ... blah, if you select workstation, blupp" on there | 03:13 |
| highvoltage | i've always liked the idea of 'press ALT+F5 during setup for help'.. .or something similar | 03:13 |
| highvoltage | I see. we could cut it out, and have a 'please refer to this documentation at http://xxxxx for more advanced installation options' | 03:14 |
| highvoltage | :/ | 03:22 |
| ogra | ? | 03:23 |
| ogra | can you invert the searchfield gradient on proto.e.o ? it looks like a button ... | 03:24 |
| ogra | and the logo on orange schould probably have a slight chadow or something .. the orange part of the logo gets swallowed | 03:25 |
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| ogra | (in the getting started link) | 03:26 |
| highvoltage | i've considered changing the colour of the search field and button altogether | 03:26 |
| ogra | or that ... | 03:26 |
| highvoltage | but somehow i like the blue in there, it makes the site a bit more fun | 03:26 |
| ogra | currently the grey part looks like a big button ... | 03:26 |
| ogra | i dont mind the blue | 03:27 |
| highvoltage | perhaps i should just invert the field first like you suggest, and then we see how it looks. | 03:27 |
| highvoltage | ok kewl, then we'll leave the blue :) | 03:27 |
| highvoltage | which logo are you talking about? | 03:27 |
| ogra | quick links | 03:27 |
| ogra | getting started has a logo at the front | 03:27 |
| highvoltage | ah, right. yes, i'll have another logo there in the future | 03:28 |
| ogra | great | 03:28 |
| highvoltage | that part needs a lot of work, i'll change the text too so that it's more readable in that section | 03:28 |
| ogra | i also had complaints about the drop shadow of the circle of kids ... | 03:28 |
| ogra | did you add that ? | 03:28 |
| highvoltage | drupal's bar to the side there is quite cool, you can have different pannels for different pages | 03:28 |
| ogra | yep | 03:28 |
| highvoltage | that was heno | 03:28 |
| ogra | ah | 03:28 |
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| highvoltage | what's wrong with the shadow, btw? | 03:29 |
| highvoltage | we can drop it if it's a problem, I think i have the original somewhere here | 03:29 |
| ogra | it looks a bit strange ... i think we should slightly move it to the lower right or sometihng ... | 03:29 |
| ogra | or even drop it completely | 03:30 |
| highvoltage | ok. | 03:30 |
| ogra | it looks a bit unnatural | 03:31 |
| highvoltage | yes, it does look weird. i haven't seen it before. the shadow position just looks unnatural. /me will play around a bit and try to fix, otherwise dtop | 03:31 |
| ogra | like glowing | 03:31 |
| highvoltage | :) | 03:31 |
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| highvoltage | bye ogra! | 04:01 |
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| Pygi | highvoltage, ogra, JaneW, spacey, I'll have to send you layout tommorow | 11:06 |
| Pygi | I am having a major headache right now, sorry :-/ | 11:06 |
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