=== Pygi [n=mario@83-131-253-116.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-253-116.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === bimberi [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.131] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu [02:50] You all talk wayyyyy too much! [03:12] iGotNoTime: i cant keep up too [03:13] sooo fast, drives me nuts [03:13] thank god for logging :) === FreshWater [n=10036@222-152-174-204.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [03:24] whats so good about ubuntu/edubuntu, what packages does the installer come with? [03:25] FreshWater: do you mean, what is installed by default? [03:26] yeah, so there are packages downloadable aswell [03:26] just give a link to [03:26] FreshWater: u try'd synaptic? [03:26] FreshWater: in a nutshell, ubuntu is designed to be an easy to use linux that retains the powerful linux stuff [03:27] FreshWater: edubuntu is a custom version of Ubuntu for educators [03:27] i'm a gentoo user, but want to find out about ubuntu/ [03:27] basically, edubuntu is ubuntu + educational apps [03:27] + ltsp [03:27] FreshWater: http://edubuntu.org/tour.html [03:28] FreshWater: and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/Desktop (a work in progress, but it talks about what ubuntu is, on hte desktop) [03:31] ok had a look, but, other than the packages on the CD, is there an easy way to install others? [03:31] FreshWater: absolutely [03:32] FreshWater: ubuntu is debian based and includes apt, with two very easy graphical front ends [03:32] grab the live cd and look at Add/Remove on the Applications menu [03:32] ok yeah APT, i read about that, cheers [03:33] FreshWater: what are you looking for in a distro? [03:34] like i said i use Gentoo, that suits me just fine, but doing some research for some newbies, and want to get my fact straight [03:37] I am a noob, want an opinion? [03:37] I have tried several distros straight from XP [03:38] Xandros was good but messed up one of my hard drives trying to mount..... [03:38] Mepis feels very outdated.... [03:38] FreshWater: having converted two people from windows straight to Ubuntu, I can tell you that they love it [03:38] Kubuntu had install issues with the cdrom [03:38] one was moderately technical, the other not at all [03:38] Ubuntu had kernal mismatch on the iso [03:39] and Edubuntu installed flawless and has an awesome community giving support 24 hours :) [03:39] I have since install Edu onto 3 computers and my laptop [03:39] my brother now uses it and even my parents now use it [03:39] they love it [03:40] I am happy, and never have had any problems that did not get resolved just from IRC === LaserJock_away is now known as LaserJock [03:40] SUSE was a nightmare because I am a noob, same with Gentoo :) [03:41] CentOS cooked my Bios and I had to buy another motherboard [03:41] Edubuntu is my favorite and I am only 6 weeks into it :) [03:41] perfect for noobs like me :) [03:43] I don't even know if I run Breezy or Dapper :P It just works LOL [03:44] iGotNoTime: then probaly u got breezy, that works. dapper is not very productive :) (well for me atm) [03:44] hehe [03:55] yes i could imagine Gentoo being a nightmare for a noob :) === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@ppp94-91.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego_ drumrolls === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [04:02] !lart me === ubotu urinates on cafuego_ [04:03] lovely [04:09] cafuego_: cheers! :) [04:14] !lart bimberi === ubotu does a little 'renice 20 -u bimberi' [04:14] bimberi: no worries :-) === bimberi got a better deal than cafuego_ there [04:17] rofl === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego_ needed a shower anyway [04:21] not necessarily a golden one, but hey [04:21] who can complain in these times of water restrictions ;-) [04:27] :) [04:33] yep, parched here too - we'll be in those Dune-style reticulation suits soon [04:33] !ltsp [04:33] rumour has it, ltsp is when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server. [04:34] !ltsperror is when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server. [04:34] bimberi: okay [04:35] !ltsperror [04:35] I guess ltsperror is when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server. [04:35] oh, i was away [04:35] bye then :) [04:36] !no ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy). See also http://www.ltsp.org/ [04:36] okay, bimberi === bimberi stops polluting the channel and continues in /query === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu [06:36] BOO!!! [06:36] Ha I scared the hell outta all you fools :P === jsgotangco yawns [06:38] got to admit it was good ;) === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_away === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.174.85] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [08:21] highvoltage... [08:21] !goodmorning [08:21] Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #edubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :) [08:21] :) [08:21] morning bimberi! [08:21] he. hi ubotu [08:22] !edubuntu [08:22] Edubuntu is the education version of ubuntu (essentially ubuntu + educational apps + ltsp). Website - http://www.edubuntu.org. Tour - http://edubuntu.org/tour.html [08:22] wow, we have our own bot to abuse === Burgundavia grins and kicks ubotu [08:25] To all those that were pinging me over the week-end. I am here now... === HedgeMage [i=me@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu [08:26] JaneW: I was not pinging you, but good morning [08:26] HedgeMage: salut [08:26] hi Burgundavia [08:26] hi Burgundavia [08:26] I have a feeling it was highvoltage/Pygi/spacey [08:26] I see the light at the end of the tunnel for the Ubuntu book [08:27] which means I get more time to work on other pieces of docs, like the edubuntu install stuff [08:29] hi JaneW [08:29] Burgundavia: cool [08:30] highvoltage: hello [08:30] JaneW: Edubuntu has some serious competition, did you see? [08:30] JaneW: http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/barbieOS.htm === JaneW looks [08:30] seriously, that is one OS my daughter would use over ubuntu [08:30] hahaha [08:31] that won;t be free in any sense of the word [08:31] but im sure my kid will use it [08:32] ok so we need ubuntu with a pink skin... [08:32] JaneW: hmmm... that might seriously be a good idea. === Burgundavia runs screaming... [08:33] Burgundavia: probably not as default theme though :) === JaneW would hate it, but if pre-pubescent grisl are a big market and a way to attact females to technology, then hey why not? [08:34] grisl!? [08:34] that was *meant* to say girls [08:34] serious freudian there [08:35] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/PlusPack [08:35] we'll need serious backing from mattel though if we would like to use the image [08:35] why not create our own women to do it? [08:35] I would stay away from Barbie per se [08:36] make it more sciency/techy [08:36] to encourage women into those areas [08:36] and just got with a pink girly theme [08:36] and possbly a custom character [08:36] and Brat's are far cooler than Barbie [08:36] IMHO === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [08:36] no! i like my women blond and plastic! [08:37] hehe [08:37] jsgotangco: that says things about you I didn't need to know :) [08:37] wahahaha === jsgotangco still on medication [08:41] jsgotangco: sick? [08:41] jsgotangco: how's the recovery from the fall going? [08:43] fall? [08:45] long story [08:48] oic [09:08] bedtime... i wish :) === highvoltage has some oats and rooibos tea [09:10] yum [09:12] yum? === highvoltage is still getting used to eating healthier [09:13] it is great, rooibos has been getting cheaper in Canada recently [09:13] makes my fix less expensive === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-242-57.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [09:16] rooibos tea is great yes. you can actually drink something that's not water that doesn't contain sugar or caffeine or anything else that you shouldn't drink [09:18] bah, highvoltage =P [09:18] Pygi: healthy things are good for you [09:19] Burgundavia: have I said anything? ^_^ [09:19] Burgundavia: sleep is healty for me ^_^ === JaneW hasn;t had rooibos for a while [09:19] I go through phases with it === JaneW drinks far too much coffee atm [09:20] hi Jane, how are you ? ^_^ === JaneW is ok [09:20] apart from horribly stiff neck [09:20] not sure why [09:21] I started assembling new layout, and I'll probably send it today...just having problems with my idiotic ISP [09:21] great thanks [09:22] I still don't see how was I able to get 1.6GB download, and just 4MB upload in 3 hours considering I was idle :-/ [09:22] and relation download:upload isn't good [09:23] bah, just problems with this ISP :-/ [09:24] JaneW: when can we setup a meeting? [09:25] sure [09:26] JaneW: sure what? =P When do you, highvoltage, and spacey have time (and maybe ogra) have time? =P [09:27] we'll need to wait for ogra to get in, to check his current availability [09:27] JaneW: ah, k, agreed ^_^ [09:27] I can make myself available almost anytime (with some prior warning) between 7:00 - 14:00 UTC [09:28] and sometimes after that, but I have other commitments later than that [09:30] JaneW: I can from 9:00 - 14:00 UTC [09:30] I believe at least :-/ [09:30] at [09:30] at least this week...but you have to say earlier... === pips1 [n=philipp@135.230.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [09:34] at 14:00 UTC must be end of meeting [09:38] yes preferably [09:40] JaneW: yup, for me as well ^_^ [09:52] i can as well [09:52] except today [09:52] :p [09:53] spacey: well, not today === Pygi - breakfast === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [10:04] highvoltage: are you available this week from 9:00 UTC to 14:00 UTC? [10:05] Pygi: i'm at work, during that time, but i could take a break somewhere in there [10:06] highvoltage: well, I have to cancel some of things as well, so we'll need to agree on time like few days before [10:06] and jane, ogra, and spacey have to do same probably === magnon [n=co@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.136] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-245-100.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has left #edubuntu [] === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego__ [n=cafuego@ppp94-108.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:49] Seveas: flash mob meeting? [11:50] hm? [11:51] in -meeting [11:51] or a CoC review? === highvoltage [n=Jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [11:54] hmm... left channel by accident. [11:54] for those not in #ubuntu-meeting, the CC supports the concept of forming Edubuntu loco teams [11:55] hmmm [11:55] what's the difference? [11:55] The Italian loco team will then be the first Edubuntu loco team (or at least, most likely) [11:55] jsgotangco: edubuntu loco team will be a team that focusses on educational and school related stuff. [11:56] jsgotangco: it has also been made clear that the loco teams aren't in competition with each other, so they're obliged to collaborate [11:56] jsgotangco: so work shouldn't be repeated in the different teams [11:56] i would know some people interested on the idea though [11:57] yep, i suppose we'll see some more teams popping up in the following weeks [12:07] damned, i missed CC ... [12:07] ogra: it's running a bit late, so it's still running. i think members are up next [12:08] yep, seen [12:09] i didnt know today was CC either, i just had my car fixed === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-191-135.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@ppp94-108.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:49] jsgotangco: flash mob? === sankar [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu [01:02] JaneW, flash mobs were a craze last year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_mobs [01:03] is it possible that ubuntu live cd hangs because of a broken harddisk? [01:05] ah, I know what a flash mob is, I was thinking this was a meeting re 'flash' [01:05] dang [01:05] clutching at straws [01:07] JaneW, I'm actually quite embarassed to say I attended one of these silly things and it turned out that there were more reporters there than flash mobbers ;-D [01:08] LOL [01:08] pips1: in RL you mean? [01:08] yep [01:08] pips1: one of the naked ones? [01:08] 8) [01:08] hahaha, no [01:08] lol === sankar is now known as sankarshan === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@164.77.169.64] has joined #edubuntu === pirast [n=pirast@p508B132A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [03:02] ogra: pingy [03:02] pongy [03:02] :) [03:02] ogra: i've gotten further with the edubuntu theme this weekend [03:03] for the website ? [03:03] or the desktop ? [03:03] ogra: you'll notice it looks slightly more like edubuntu-gtk theme now: http://proto.edubuntu.org [03:03] (the website) [03:03] although it still needs quite a bit of work. [03:04] incredible ... [03:04] i'll get as much of the edubuntu artwork in there when it's finalised, so that things feel the same [03:04] looks *very* cool [03:04] thanks :) [03:04] yes, even the colors might change, i havent heard back from silbs yet ... JaneW probably knows more [03:05] ok. once i have all the layout and basic stuffies done, changing the colours a bit won't be a big deal. [03:05] good [03:05] i hope we can keep them this way ... [03:05] i'll stick to current edubuntu stuff as close as possible, and then update the site scheme as the distro changes. [03:05] yep [03:05] thats good [03:05] yeah, I would never say yes to a red theme, ever... before. [03:06] but it actually looks *very* good in edubuntu [03:06] yep [03:07] i think we'll have a very nice edubuntu website / theme combination, possibly the nicest between edubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu (not that we're competing, of course) [03:07] ogra: i also realised that images didn't work in that last 'getting started' guide i've sent you [03:07] dunno, i dont know the xubuntu page yet and i guess kubuntu will be adjusted [03:08] ogra: there's one that works on the proto site atm: http://proto.edubuntu.org/gettingstarted [03:08] oh, there were more already ? [03:08] more? [03:09] ogra: you still need to send silbs the install instructions [03:09] JaneW, i know ... [03:09] ogra: I have not heard anymore yet... [03:09] i have it open on my desk :) [03:09] (the mail that is) [03:10] install instructions? [03:10] for the CD cover [03:10] aah [03:10] ogra: K thanks [03:11] that needs a decision first on how much i want on the cover ... it could only be ... "after install open this or that document" or even more detailed ones like the InstallNotes wikipage [03:12] ogra: can't we get the getting started guide in html on the CD? [03:12] ogra: then we could point to that on the disc [03:13] ogra: also, would it be possible to have documentation in a VT while the installation takes place (for edgy) [03:13] yes, thats waht i want ... but the question is if we want the "if you just hit enter ... blah, if you select workstation, blupp" on there [03:13] i've always liked the idea of 'press ALT+F5 during setup for help'.. .or something similar [03:14] I see. we could cut it out, and have a 'please refer to this documentation at http://xxxxx for more advanced installation options' [03:22] :/ [03:23] ? [03:24] can you invert the searchfield gradient on proto.e.o ? it looks like a button ... [03:25] and the logo on orange schould probably have a slight chadow or something .. the orange part of the logo gets swallowed === highvoltage opens proto [03:26] (in the getting started link) [03:26] i've considered changing the colour of the search field and button altogether [03:26] or that ... [03:26] but somehow i like the blue in there, it makes the site a bit more fun [03:26] currently the grey part looks like a big button ... [03:27] i dont mind the blue [03:27] perhaps i should just invert the field first like you suggest, and then we see how it looks. [03:27] ok kewl, then we'll leave the blue :) [03:27] which logo are you talking about? [03:27] quick links [03:27] getting started has a logo at the front [03:28] ah, right. yes, i'll have another logo there in the future [03:28] great [03:28] that part needs a lot of work, i'll change the text too so that it's more readable in that section [03:28] i also had complaints about the drop shadow of the circle of kids ... [03:28] did you add that ? [03:28] drupal's bar to the side there is quite cool, you can have different pannels for different pages [03:28] yep [03:28] that was heno [03:28] ah === caravena [n=caravena@200.55.195.158] has joined #edubuntu [03:29] what's wrong with the shadow, btw? [03:29] we can drop it if it's a problem, I think i have the original somewhere here [03:29] it looks a bit strange ... i think we should slightly move it to the lower right or sometihng ... [03:30] or even drop it completely [03:30] ok. [03:31] it looks a bit unnatural [03:31] yes, it does look weird. i haven't seen it before. the shadow position just looks unnatural. /me will play around a bit and try to fix, otherwise dtop [03:31] like glowing [03:31] :) === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] bye ogra! === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has left #edubuntu [] === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.174.85] has joined #edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock_away is now known as LaserJock === ere [n=ere@96.80-202-183.nextgentel.com] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === errpast [n=errpast@host81.155.212.198.conversent.net] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084F5CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === errpast [n=errpast@host81.155.212.198.conversent.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === Rondom [n=Rondom@87.193.35.195] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom_ [n=Rondom@87.193.50.18] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === |Terje| [n=Terje@ws42245.studby.hig.no] has joined #edubuntu === drbreen [n=drbreen@p54B7D49E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === drbreen [n=drbreen@p54B7D49E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #edubuntu ["Kopete] === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-240-141.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084F5CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-220-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@pdpc/supporter/active/bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === |Terje| [n=Terje@ws42245.studby.hig.no] has left #edubuntu ["d'oh"] === MEagain [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #Edubuntu [11:06] highvoltage, ogra, JaneW, spacey, I'll have to send you layout tommorow [11:06] I am having a major headache right now, sorry :-/ === iGotNoTime [n=joshua@cpe-65-189-240-199.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.174.85] has joined #edubuntu